Anyone who doesnt think this season is simply about survival, is in denial.

I'm not mate, we started plenty of seasons under moyes in similar fashion. Yes I know it's not just been the results, the performances have been bad and the squad looks disjointed. I'm still confident of a top half finish (even 7th), as long as the squad issues are addressed in January and a good manager is brought in.

Like I say, get Tuchel in, give him some breathing space (Klopp finished 8th in his first season at Liverpool) and he can have a proper go at our main aims next summer.

I'm not mate, we started plenty of seasons under moyes in similar fashion. Yes I know it's not just been the results, the performances have been bad and the squad looks disjointed. I'm still confident of a top half finish (even 7th), as long as the squad issues are addressed in January and a good manager is brought in.

Like I say, get Tuchel in, give him some breathing space (Klopp finished 8th in his first season at Liverpool) and he can have a proper go at our main aims next summer.

Southampton finished 8 on 46 points last season, I'm not seeing a team in the league outside the top 6 that I look at and think they will definitely get 50+ points this season. As daft as it may seem right now because how bad we look, it isnt impossible to get towards 50 points as you say with a good manager in, get the players back in form and rectify the problems with a couple of additions in January.

But at the moment we just need to be as solid as we can and get some results to help build the confidence of the players to stop looking as bad as we do.

Southampton finished 8 on 46 points last season, I'm not seeing a team in the league outside the top 6 that I look at and think they will definitely get 50+ points this season. As daft as it may seem right now because how bad we look, it isnt impossible to get towards 50 points as you say with a good manager in, get the players back in form and rectify the problems with a couple of additions in January.

But at the moment we just need to be as solid as we can and get some results to help build the confidence of the players to stop looking as bad as we do.

Agreed. I understand people going into 'this season is all about survival' mode but that is a bit doom and gloomy. We will have more money to spend in Jan than most others outside the top 6 and have the potential to be ok. Ok in this league can get you 7th because the majority of the league is a bag of shite

Agreed. I understand people going into 'this season is all about survival' mode but that is a bit doom and gloomy. We will have more money to spend in Jan than most others outside the top 6 and have the potential to be ok. Ok in this league can get you 7th because the majority of the league is a bag of shite

That's why I'm not panicking, or in denial

I think we'll be eventually be okay and think when we get someone up top our team as a whole will look much better than it currently does. I do think its a bit of damage limitation until January though as I just dont see where goals will come from? I think were averaging a goal every 120 minutes or something stupid, and I just cant see that changing. We have to keep a clean sheet if were going to win games

Agreed. I understand people going into 'this season is all about survival' mode but that is a bit doom and gloomy. We will have more money to spend in Jan than most others outside the top 6 and have the potential to be ok. Ok in this league can get you 7th because the majority of the league is a bag of shite

That's why I'm not panicking, or in denial

Right now the focus needs to be do what we can to pick up. But based on how poor everyone outside the top 6 is, say 50 points to get top 10 or top 7 whatever that may get us, we'd need to get 42 points from 28, so need to go at 1.5 points per game over the rest of the season which isnt beyond the realms of possibility. It just feels that way because of how poorly so many players are playing, what's important to remember is this isnt the normal level of players like Schneiderlin, Sigurdsson etc they are probably playing as badly as they ever have rather than being the level they have been at for the last 5 years outside this spell.

I'm not mate, we started plenty of seasons under moyes in similar fashion. Yes I know it's not just been the results, the performances have been bad and the squad looks disjointed. I'm still confident of a top half finish (even 7th), as long as the squad issues are addressed in January and a good manager is brought in.

Like I say, get Tuchel in, give him some breathing space (Klopp finished 8th in his first season at Liverpool) and he can have a proper go at our main aims next summer.

Like getting promoted.

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Id like to see any manager at the mo who can keep players in their fucking positions,, yesterday at one point rooney was where gueye shouldve been and gueye was where rooney shouldve been 2 meters from their area twats,,,failing that make the pair of them wear electric shock collars and every time one of them go's wayward zap the fuckers

Remove his name for one moment from the article, (same article as in the Echo?), and everything he said was what a future manager must do to steady the ship. I would employ such a manager, based on that statement and on his past record. Unsworth should read it, but could he carry it out? There is the rub. Some are saying we are too big or too grand to take on the likes of Sam. Not this season unfortunately. Unsworth or Big Sam until the end of this season only? I am assuming a really big name would not touch us with the proverbial bargepole at present.

Some sort of iron that this squad lacks quality and balance so we’re desperate for the next next transfer window...yet you could argue that the last thing we need are yet more players to have to come in and settle and gel!