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Best guess there are still a lot of people interested that can't vote in the tournament anymore. If one considers ISML's numbers in the 10,000 range, that would suggest there are that many people still interested in Saimoe, but can't (or won't) vote in it for one reason or another.

Puh-leaze. ISML is a botnet paradise. I doubt it even has 200 unique voters.

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All the tears around here is... delicious.

Though, to be honest, I think the main culprit of the low votes are the shows themselves. I'm not talking about Saki dominance, I'm talking about how no series really shined last year. PMMM dominated last year because it was the only series almost anyone was talking about. This year? *shrug*

Against opponents like Nodoka and Hisa, I imagine they'll plan ahead to be able to call tiles to break Toki's Riichi Ippatsu ability.

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Originally Posted by Aya Reiko

Puh-leaze. ISML is a botnet paradise. I doubt it even has 200 unique voters.

The results are legit. They largely fall in line with statistics. Maybe the cheaters are intentionally distributing their votes in such a way to fool some random person's voting model but I doubt they would care that much.

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Originally Posted by Coldlight

Too many returning veterans, factions and series to talk about, but few lived up to expectations. Only Team Saki had their game together.

I think this is a big problem. There are a lot of big names so it seems like Saki should have competition. However, if all those big names are just a shadow of their former strength, Saki doesn't really have much competition at all.

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I was more looking for stuff from the scene of the crime proving that it is a botnet, not so much opinions from last year. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I still think that the world needs to be able to vote again in 2channel AST. Getting rid of multivoting is like trying to get rid of Kyuubey in PMMM. You just can't. They will always be there, whether or not the world votes.

The faction wars are done. Saki won. Now each vote needs to decide which Saki character they want to win the whole thing. The first semifinal features Toki vs Nodoka. Nodoka was the strongest of the original Saki characters while Toki should be the strongest of the new Saki characters. Whoever wins this match will likely go on to win the finals as well. Nodoka barely scraped by Ako and Saki. A bit less luck and she wouldn't be here right now. It's hard to imagine Toki being weaker than Ako so these are not good results for Nodoka. Toki also beat Saki easily in the preliminaries so it's hard to see her being weaker than Saki. I don't think Nodoka should be counted out completely but Toki should be the solid favourite to win.

Vote:
Onjouji Toki

Prediction:
Onjouji Toki

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Cool. I predicted it right... I hope Hisa can upset Dragon Lord. At least Hisa's the better mahjong player.

Nodoka wouldn't do that. She thinks she lives in the real world. That's why she sucks.

Wait... are you saying that Nodoka sucks at mahjong?

Granted that her strict sensibilities against "superstition" does cause her blind-spots, but it also actually helps her sometimes (such as it did against Stealth Momo). Nodoka is almost like Umineko's Battler in that her "magic-denying" can turn the magic off when it comes to some opponents.

I still think, for example, that Nodoka could be an unusually tricky opponent for Teru, because there's nothing there for Teru "to see", since Nodoka is just about all-around good fundamentals when it comes to mahjong playing.

The person was just saying how you can cheat in ISML. Unless you can show me a script that can beat numerous vote checking algorithm we have, I believe we are catching and invalidating 90+% of botnet voting of the type he describes. Nobody refuted him because we know there are people who tries to cheat such a way. He didn't produce any evidence, nor demonstrated what he said is possible. Also, he wasn't claiming 90+% of ISML votes are fake. I didn't bother answering him because there was possibility that some votes of the nature he described did elude out myriad of vote checking system and in many contest, just a dozen or 2 could have changed who won and lost. To consider just that statement as discussion that thoroughly explored his claim is a fallacy.

ISML beats that 200 unique vote number in 14 countries in almost all the matches during 2012. I know from one Korean website, where you need a unique government issued social security number to register, that there was more than 100 unique voters for just that website who were voting in both ISML and Best Moe Tournament in 2008, when such SSID number was required by law, and when there were much less people voting in ISML.

To claim scale of botnet needed to justify your claim is to say most of the voters have average of 100+ bots at their disposal for just a single match since we do catch many bots in action. If you consider the number of unique IP address for the entire year, you would need 200+ bots on average since many people vote couple of times and then disappears. Please tell me how this can be plausible, especially since making and having a botnet should be illegal.

It would help us immensely if you can show us those scripts, randomized commands, how you can make/build a botnet, or where you can purchase/borrow a botnet.

Puh-leaze. ISML is a botnet paradise. I doubt it even has 200 unique voters.

Hahaha. I can count like about three to four hundred unique votes from just about five forums. FORUMS. Where you only see people who are so bored that they would actually talk about their votes instead of just vote and be done with it.