none of these bunch of faggots are any good or will ever be any good at deagling since most of these are: random shooters, ppl who think sliding with deagle is "skill" in any situation, overrated players and unknown wannabes trying to achieve some glory of the remain ashes of samp. I mean I cant even take this serious when Mouad is on that list like...lol. SHEN, Zeus, Evol, Xiino, crZ, not even mentioned, I even think Jonas can beat with deagle any of these noobs anyday at deagling. PEACE

So you're telling me that "Markus" or "jant1" came to your head before any of the players I mentioned before when you thought about "best samp deaglers"? you think of a good samp deagler and u forget about those I said? shen, zeus, slike, xiino, crz, nedi, evo, etc. You dont even think of them when trying to make a DEAGLE rank? Well I think that behind that honesty there is some dark business, I can tell that u actually didnt add any of those so ur name could bright over the rest of the members of such list of trash, and by this you could feed your ego and deagling wannabeness so you can be recognized once for all, a best in something at samp. This is what I think, dont take anything personal just an opinion of a spectator, not looking for any personal merits.

People getting angry that how could you have forget about putting peoples like crz shen zeus zoot and etc.. but lets face out with the present and fuck off old generation, i mean ppl from old generation was a bit ez comparing to novadays thats what i think, i mean they took ages to get good but now everyone that came from roleplay server can slide and shoot like zeus in max 1 week (and dont say that they are cheaters cuz its a bad excuse)

byonder u think old players are legends and shit like that, check all there footages their whole gameplay is so simple and average, its the people they played against back then which were shit and didnt know how to move properly or anything

I hope you are joking because if not then you dont understand shit about anything in life at all. So by your logic, ppl in the past like Albert Einstein are stupid for not realizing how the universe works in their era, right? In fact, he, or any other "old generation" of physicist, scientist are considered legends in important figure of our current world because they are the ones who OPENED the doors of our current understanding of the world, thats what makes them genuine and not stupid, they built the path to knowledge for our recent understanding of the universe as we see it today, you piece of shit dumbfuck cant even use your logic without chopping ur balls off. Zegro was one of the first if not the first in using rapidfire in samp, evo was also one of the very first players who made SAMP fragmovies and that led to lots of players to make their owns, their deagle style developed in new styles and with that YOUR CURRENT style, which means they deserver some merit if not all, because what would be this community without the ammount of views that these players and their playstyles have achieved, this game would been dead ages ago if it wasnt for them, GET UR SHIT TOGETHER CUNT.

you guys are definetely dumb as fuck and thats why 99 percent of samp players are uber trash in any new generation competitive decent game. Do you know what a learning curve is? or snowball effect? do you ever use ur brain? or does your brain only work for spamming randomfire ugly as hell?

I got nothing against you and you are true in some part you texted above my comment, but dont be so fuckin shittard telling everyone that samp once was dominated by pro legend players such as SHEN crZ (and some roleplayers dominated groove street in a novocaine server XDD) because no one cares anymore they was good and yes stop with it, history repeats once. There is Michael Phelps which was a legend in swimming sport but who knows in maybe in 10 years there will be another Phelps beating all of his records. So stop it damn

old players paved the way for the new ofc but u cant just put them above everyone because it's disingenuous, there's some good deagles around now that look just as good as old players videos but i cant judge cos i wasn't around or played vs them. i dnt even play deagle much and im on the list lmfao xDDD i guess it was just for fun not a real list beyonder

So you are saying that michael phelps must be forgotten and not mentioned in swimming history because in 10 years he will be "another dude who swam who was only a good swimmer because his competitors were average swimmers"? And that all what he's done for the swimming scene is not worth shit? That new guys beating his marks are good by nature and not because they learnt from the style of the old school swimmers? Is that what you are saying? Roger Federer? Whos that nigga? pff he doesnt deserve shit, Djokovic is now the real deal Federer didnt do shit but inspire Novak's dream and style pff ez.

don't get me wrong, but your metrics for determining who was a good deagler was backed up by how much influence their frag movies had but there could be consistent deaglers who are playing only deagle and raping everyone. just people it looks shit with the same slide, same bullshit it isn't as 'sexy' as other peoples styles. im not saying we should forget them either, cos there are old players who are a good example to learn from and the newer people can innovate their game from that. it depends what your criteria is for who's the 'best' deagler cos it's subjective and for you it is dependent on their influence in the game + their skills. or u just dont like to compare JT for example with someone like evo. I don't think we disagree, just think ur rly pessimistic about nuisance in the game and anyone who is claiming to be the 'best' now has to go back and time to show he's something. understandable, but still, its not a complete list

First, volk you've been honest and I appreciate that, what you said its true. Im not saying that old players were best but it sounds crazy to me not to mention a single one in a deagle ranking, and for all of you who think you are smartasses, The strafe back in the days was waaaaaaay too different and didnt allow the speed of the current samp version, what made players to actually play slower and use deagle with brain, because if u tried to use deagle like you do now, you'd get raped for being a standing still rapidfirer. Thats why their movements are different and not speedy gonzalez like. To be honest I cant find any merit in deaglers now because it completly breaks the nature of A/D. A weapon that deals -46(half armour) whose sync has been inproved a lot in every samp new version release making it very accurate (because it wasnt that easy to land deag shots back when those "average" players used it) this new deagle is overpowered and combined with the macro infection that this community suffers has converted A/D into GTAT with a CP on the middle of the map, cp that ppl touch when there is a last standing guy hiding around and needs to touch it. Go, host a 0.2x version of samp, install it and try to play and land deag shots like you do know, so you can get a well deserved dose of reality, MASTERS. Get ur facts straight before talking,

And btw this list was just a lowkey try for JT to be voted so he added only non-deagler mains or basically randoms from who knows were so he could easily reach top 1, 2 or 3. Pretty low standars if u ask me, for being the best u must compare urself with the best, btw any super daegle master or samp genious who can tell me who the hell is now considered a "VERY GOOD or GOOD deagler?" this is a serious question please inform an idiot.

i played on 0.3b (downgraded) and tried it out, was more fun when I played it in some aspects and it was much harder to hit anyone. so im guessing if you got good at that, comparing it to how easily people shoot now would make the older players 'look' average so I get your point

tbh considering that it's easier to play deagle the meta of the game has entirely changed, so more people think it's better to get good with deagle over anything else and the oversaturation of these types of players will make everyone seem like mediocre. there also should be asterisk next to people who had high as fuck ping, who never take a hit and slide everywhere cos with lower ping their type of gameplay wouldn't be effective at all. maybe they will still be good, but they wouldn't have the same feats. u can argue a deagler being 'good' but not showing any skill, just sliding around and doing bullshit like sMb would or something. it all depends on ur criteria for what a good deagler is, and for me a good deagler is someone who has low ping and above 45 fps n they can be clutch as fuck cos the skill ceiling for deagle has increased considering it's easier to hit now

like my clan mate, nick13, he's sick with deagle but his hitbox is hard and he has good movement hence why I would put an asterisk next to him being one of the 'best' its really hard to beat him when he hits me so effortless. when u play on a shit game, where ping can be an advantage in some situations then u can't exactly accurately measure someones skill when nobody is on an equal playing field. nice topic lol

^exactly. High ping and 40 fps is just lame, its not skill. Is not the same deagling with 40, 50, 70 ping and 45 to 60 fps than just running around the base with 120+ ping with 35-42 fps, thats not a good deagler thats a disturbing lagger and unfair af.

The reason I don't respect and wont respect any "pro legend players " cause I played vs most of them in cws and they didn't do or have anything impressive AT ALL, and volk i just threw random names i saw and i remembered read my first comment before mentioning my name like that. and you're the one with mental retardedness existenz comparing sa-mp to NBA XD

First, it is not a comparison, it is an example and secondly, u played against old ppl who were fed up with the game when they were about to quit, when they were too tired to keep bothering for even try as they used to, its called losing the passion and I know what Im talking about, you play just for the lulz and not even trying to reach ur old level of gameplay. When u started playing the flame of the a/d was already going very down. You dont need to go that far, u guys playing tcws between same 3 or 4 clans everyday. Once again, talking crap without using the brain.

CBA to discuss with braindead idiots... Sad af... Gl with the 22ppl current a/d community, reach the top dont let ur dreams be dreams And dont let oldfags who claim that a/d is dead take away ur efforts, they just hating cuz they cant git gud and beat you and your genuine original playstyle so they had to quit and let u reach the throne u deserve. 2012 .. u appeared somewhere around 2014 but nice try, dont lie urself, you have no idea about anything, ignorant. Even if u did play in 2012 I HIGHLY doubt you could be any good to compare urself with any decent player of that time due to the lack of memories about you so in case u did play, u were either starting or learning basis, in which both cases its impossible for u to compare urself with any decent player of that time. PEACE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGpcm6ADNmI smd it's not like I give a fuck but its just hilarious for me how I'm making you check gtat at 2 am in the morning just because you're brain dead and can't understand the fact that everyone was shit back in 2012 there was only a few good players which were making good frags but still wont do shit vs samp players now adays, its a dead game stop arguing with me about shit you can't load threw your head, literally everyone would agree with me that everyone was shit back then except you, and trust me no old player was anything special if you'd ever put them in the meantime of this community

I won't even deny I used to consider the name you mentioned earlier gods of a/d community and they're godlike and shit like that but I remember after I played vs each and everyone of them I figured out that it's only videos and they ain't anything special AT ALL. and I'm sorry if you couldn't remember me with any of your "memories" of cheating back then

jt elger has a point but not as much as he thinks he doesnt know the good ones as he mentioned crz and xiino, but if u take all of this list and a put them against the old legends as he called them in this version of samp i bet out of 10 rounds lets say 4 will go to the old players but if u put them in a 10 round match on 0.2x or even a 0.3a the new guys wont win one out of those 10.