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Openmoko have announced a scheme to sell the forthcoming Neo Freerunner at a discount if bought in multiples of 10 (US$369, instead of 399), to be shipped in one package. Group buying will thus save money on the purchase, and on the shipping. This page is to to organise group purchases by region.

Steve from Openmoko announced "Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets."
So join us within a local group !

Australia

Customs And Postage

Because of Australian customs, it might be better to form groups of two. That way we (Australians) will fall under the $1000 amount for import items and not have to pay the extra customs / taxes .
Customs information for Australia can be found here.

Nick Devereaux has worked out the per-phone cost of an Australian bulk order compared to an individual order. Thanks to Simon Matthews for updating the shipping details. The postage is approximated on an estimate by Steve that shipping to Europe bulk is $160 and individual is $70. Australia should be similar to this.

New South Wales

Sydney

status: 10/10 ( one group)

Please add an "I exist" to end of your name here.

We now have 10 people (that seem to exist). I would to suggest like openmoko the company allow group sale deposits into accounts on behalf of groups.
With perhaps the package sent to sydney and then to a po box or split to finish the journey to the buyers.

South Australia

Adelaide

Austria

There is a group-buy page at MetaLab, available here: http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko .. we almost have the full 10 slots assigned, and its quite possible that we will order *20* phones, so please register on the Metalab pages and let us know if you're interested ..

Estonia

Tallinn

Let's see if we can get ten people together for this. I'm willing to organise the local distribution if we can. Spread the word and try to get more locals interested in it. Yogiz 08:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Finland

Uusimaa

Note to gta02v6 waiting people:"The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT
LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption". So, no problem? Also a quote from Neo FreeRunner GTA02 Hardware#GTA02v6: "Capacitor and resistor change A6 also on mass production A5".

Alpes de Haute Provence

Manosque

Provence Alpes Cote d'Azur

Sophia Antipolis

Midi-Pyrénées

Toulouse

Germany

Baden-Württemberg

Karlsruhe

Spacemarine 2 Freerunner. -- I'm managing the communication between the groupbuyers, so please contact me if you are interested and haven't received an email from me yet. We will meet at the Kalug Meeting http://www.karlsruhe.linux.de/ on 26. 5. 2008 to discuss things further.

If we don't reach the 10 phones limit in each city, maybe we could place an order in the "most requested city", and from shipping to other buyers. We'll have anyway a good discount although the "double-shipping". (Read here for reference).

Zuid-Holland

Rijswijk

Utrecht

Utrecht

Status

25/30

New Zealand

As Telecom are using the 850MHz network for their GSM network, and Vodafone/northelia (possibly aka orcon) are using 900/1800MHz, please state which version you want. This may need more research, I'm not 100%; see [8] for more info

Based on info from steve (openmoko marketing) concerning weight and size, shipping via UPS will be about US$185 (NZ$23 each phone) to Auckland.
UPS are far from the cheapest, but (again according to steve), OM have a contract with them, so this is what we are stuck with

Someone on the community list suggested using [9], a shipping company that will re-post items overseas at decent rates. They claim US$66 for a 3kg package, or NZ$8 per phone. Of course, the cost of shipping the phone from OM to the shipping company has to be added in as well.

As of 2008-05-08, US$369 is worth NZ$477

import duty on mobile phones is 0%[10], and GST is 12.5% so the GST added to each phone will be NZ$63; 12.5% * {477 + 23), cos we pay GST on postage too...

So, the total cost of a Freerunner as part of a 10 pack, will be:
477 + 23 + 63
= NZ$563

+ any possible charges to get it posted elsewhere in New Zealand

Auckland

i'm quite happy to organise the purchase, if no-one has any objections. to ease any worries about me running off with the money, we could use an escrow service such as [12], or paypal. or does anyone have any other ideas?

Xuân Baldauf User:xbaldauf[16] Auckland CBD, 900MHz+1800MHz GSM with an EU charger clip instead of an Australian one (if this is in need to be selected). This is conditional: the transaction must complete by 2008-06-30, else I cannot participate, because I'm leaving the country afterwards.

If we end up with more than one 10-pack in Sweden, my guess is that it would probably pay to order everything in one shipment to one address in Sweden to save on the international shipping, and then remail domestically.

Norrland

Umeå

Luleå

Switzerland

Gabriel Ambuehl would volunteer to order the initial 10pack.
Alexandre Ghisoli could organize the second 10pack.
Luca Capello could organize the third 10pack (mostly for French Switzerland).
Mathieu will probably organisze the 4th 10pack. (Lausanne)
All the 4 with payment in advance (a 10pack will cost approx 3'800 USD).

Probably we will organize shipping, if we cannot all move to Zürich/Genève to get our Neo.

Customs and Postage

I called the Swiss Federal Customs Administration and it seems that we only need to pay VAT (7.6%) and the UPS taxes as well (since the parcel will be sent through UPS). Thus I called UPS and it seems that UPS directly pays the VAT instead of the customer, then asking the customer for refund (plus a fixed tax of EUR13.00). So I think the following per-phone cost for a Swiss bulk order should be a good estimate.

Nevada

Reno/Sparks

UK

Stroller (Milton Keynes, can travel) mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk 01908 663 513. Thinks that breaking the UK up into regions - at least outside London - is silly. There are unlikely to be 10 people in $your_town who want a Freerunner, so some posting of Freerunners will surely be required; see the talk page. This is the same cost anywhere in the UK.

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Openmoko have announced a scheme to sell the forthcoming Neo Freerunner at a discount if bought in multiples of 10 (US$369, instead of 399), to be shipped in one package. Group buying will thus save money on the purchase, and on the shipping. This page is to to organise group purchases by region.

Steve from Openmoko announced "Every 10 pack, will come with a box of stuff. 10 pouches and 10 head sets."
So join us within a local group !

Australia

Customs And Postage

Because of Australian customs, it might be better to form groups of two. That way we (Australians) will fall under the $1000 amount for import items and not have to pay the extra customs / taxes .
Customs information for Australia can be found here.

Nick Devereaux has worked out the per-phone cost of an Australian bulk order compared to an individual order. Thanks to Simon Matthews for updating the shipping details. The postage is approximated on an estimate by Steve that shipping to Europe bulk is $160 and individual is $70. Australia should be similar to this.

New South Wales

Sydney

status: 10/10 ( one group)

Please add an "I exist" to end of your name here.

We now have 10 people (that seem to exist). I would to suggest like openmoko the company allow group sale deposits into accounts on behalf of groups.
With perhaps the package sent to sydney and then to a po box or split to finish the journey to the buyers.

South Australia

Adelaide

Austria

There is a group-buy page at MetaLab, available here: http://metalab.at/wiki/OpenMoko .. we almost have the full 10 slots assigned, and its quite possible that we will order *20* phones, so please register on the Metalab pages and let us know if you're interested ..

Estonia

Tallinn

Let's see if we can get ten people together for this. I'm willing to organise the local distribution if we can. Spread the word and try to get more locals interested in it. Yogiz 08:22, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

Finland

Uusimaa

Note to gta02v6 waiting people:"The A5 boards have been reworked to remove the [LED] issue. So WRT
LEDs a5 and a6 have the same power consumption". So, no problem? Also a quote from Neo FreeRunner GTA02 Hardware#GTA02v6: "Capacitor and resistor change A6 also on mass production A5".

Alpes de Haute Provence

Manosque

Provence Alpes Cote d'Azur

Sophia Antipolis

Midi-Pyrénées

Toulouse

Germany

Baden-Württemberg

Karlsruhe

Spacemarine 2 Freerunner. -- I'm managing the communication between the groupbuyers, so please contact me if you are interested and haven't received an email from me yet. We will meet at the Kalug Meeting http://www.karlsruhe.linux.de/ on 26. 5. 2008 to discuss things further.

If we don't reach the 10 phones limit in each city, maybe we could place an order in the "most requested city", and from shipping to other buyers. We'll have anyway a good discount although the "double-shipping". (Read here for reference).

Zuid-Holland

Rijswijk

Utrecht

Utrecht

Status

25/30

New Zealand

As Telecom are using the 850MHz network for their GSM network, and Vodafone/northelia (possibly aka orcon) are using 900/1800MHz, please state which version you want. This may need more research, I'm not 100%; see [8] for more info

Based on info from steve (openmoko marketing) concerning weight and size, shipping via UPS will be about US$185 (NZ$23 each phone) to Auckland.
UPS are far from the cheapest, but (again according to steve), OM have a contract with them, so this is what we are stuck with

Someone on the community list suggested using [9], a shipping company that will re-post items overseas at decent rates. They claim US$66 for a 3kg package, or NZ$8 per phone. Of course, the cost of shipping the phone from OM to the shipping company has to be added in as well.

As of 2008-05-08, US$369 is worth NZ$477

import duty on mobile phones is 0%[10], and GST is 12.5% so the GST added to each phone will be NZ$63; 12.5% * {477 + 23), cos we pay GST on postage too...

So, the total cost of a Freerunner as part of a 10 pack, will be:
477 + 23 + 63
= NZ$563

+ any possible charges to get it posted elsewhere in New Zealand

Auckland

i'm quite happy to organise the purchase, if no-one has any objections. to ease any worries about me running off with the money, we could use an escrow service such as [12], or paypal. or does anyone have any other ideas?

Xuân Baldauf User:xbaldauf[16] Auckland CBD, 900MHz+1800MHz GSM with an EU charger clip instead of an Australian one (if this is in need to be selected). This is conditional: the transaction must complete by 2008-06-30, else I cannot participate, because I'm leaving the country afterwards.

If we end up with more than one 10-pack in Sweden, my guess is that it would probably pay to order everything in one shipment to one address in Sweden to save on the international shipping, and then remail domestically.

Norrland

Umeå

Luleå

Switzerland

Gabriel Ambuehl would volunteer to order the initial 10pack.
Alexandre Ghisoli could organize the second 10pack.
Luca Capello could organize the third 10pack (mostly for French Switzerland).
Mathieu will probably organisze the 4th 10pack. (Lausanne)
All the 4 with payment in advance (a 10pack will cost approx 3'800 USD).

Probably we will organize shipping, if we cannot all move to Zürich/Genève to get our Neo.

Customs and Postage

I called the Swiss Federal Customs Administration and it seems that we only need to pay VAT (7.6%) and the UPS taxes as well (since the parcel will be sent through UPS). Thus I called UPS and it seems that UPS directly pays the VAT instead of the customer, then asking the customer for refund (plus a fixed tax of EUR13.00). So I think the following per-phone cost for a Swiss bulk order should be a good estimate.

Nevada

Reno/Sparks

UK

Stroller (Milton Keynes, can travel) mailto:stroller@stellar.eclipse.co.uk 01908 663 513. Thinks that breaking the UK up into regions - at least outside London - is silly. There are unlikely to be 10 people in $your_town who want a Freerunner, so some posting of Freerunners will surely be required; see the talk page. This is the same cost anywhere in the UK.