I do not find the story of the 80 year old man shooting a fleeing felon to be the slightest bit disturbing. Good for him!

Since it occurred in California, I'll depend on Dwain to give us a blow-by-blow account as this incident plays out in their local news.

I make no claim to speak on behalf of my neighbors in Linwood. Nor am I affiliated with any organization that claims to protect local lakes, while focusing solely on wrestling control from Alcoa in favor of big government.

We need guns for national security dips**t. Just stop. And imagine a world without the US...

Israel? Gone.. for sure. England? France? All the neutral countries? POOF! Out of existence.. But nobody wants to get in a land war with a country where, statistically, an infant has a gun.

So what is it? Like half of our taxes go toward the military in some form or fashion, and it has to.. to protect our way of life. You're talking smack about the laws that help protect you and your smack, as heartless and cowardly as it may be.

You speak of freedom and equality, but most people in the world don't see it that way. Sad but true. WE DO. That's why we have certain laws governing "bad" behavior.

It's fine if your religion dictates that you sacrifice, say, chickens to Shamalama the DingDong... Start your own chicken farm. Sell the dead ones for the meat.

But we're drawing lines at the weirder ****. Slitting a chickens throat and swinging it around by its neck have varying emotional undertones. A person who would swing the chicken by the head, is probably more likely to cheat on their spouse.. or taxes. Or buy something they couldn't afford. It's impulse behavior that those people can't control.

It's hard to create regulation based on personalities, but clip sizes are easy to understand...

Dwain Wilson wrote:Getting this thread back on track, there's this report of yet another responsible gun owner...

80-Year-Old Man Has No Regrets About Gunning Down Intruder Who Said She Was Pregnant

An 80-year-old Long Beach homeowner has some choice quotes but no regrets about an alleged botched home burglary that ended in him shooting a woman to death.

Retiree Tom Greer said he came home Tuesday night to find out that his upscale Bixby Knolls home was in the midst of being ransacked by a man and woman. Greer told NBC Los Angeles that they both tackled him, threw him to the ground and jumped on top of him. They then proceeded to open his safe containing thousands of dollars right in front of him.

Greer said they didn't appear to be armed, but he went and got his .22-caliber Smith and Wesson revolver. He told NBC: "I come back and they see me with a gun, and they run."

The man escaped but the woman didn't. Greer fired at her in an alley behind his house. "She says, 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant! I'm going to have a baby!' And I shot her anyway," Greer said.

NBC asked him what happened next: "She was dead. I shot her twice, she best be dead ... (The man) had run off and left her." Greer said he had never shot or killed anyone in his life. He added, "I shot her so that's going to leave a message on his mind for the rest of his life."

Greer was treated at a hospital today for a severe shoulder and collarbone injury.Police told City News Service the woman was in her 20s, and, as Greer said, she was dead at the scene. Long Beach Police are investigating the circumstances, but they haven't arrested anyone including Greer, who copped to the shooting.

Yes, she was a thief. But he was no longer in imminent danger. Not self-defense. Murder, plain and simple.

I heard an interview with this guy in which he claims he's "a good Christian."

Someone ought to explain to this guy that Christ never advocated for shooting pregnant women in the back.

She was pregnant committing a burglary and tackling an 80 year old man. Can't say that I feel too sorry that she is dead. The gun apparently worked, it scared them away, however if this man followed them and shot her, he needs to be prosecuted. I could see a case for 2nd degree, but probably wind up with manslaughter at the very worst.

Minnesota man guns down teen girl after she asks him to stop riding lawnmower in her yard

A Minnesota man who admitted shooting a 17-year-old girl multiple times because she asked him to stop trespassing on his riding lawnmower has been charged with attempted first-degree murder.

According to a criminal complaint obtained by The Associated Press, 40-year-old Chad Pickering shot the 17-year-old girl in the chest, right thigh and left ankle while she was standing on the deck of her Bemidji home on Monday night.

“The victim herself was able to describe what had happened and talk to us and tell us that she’d simply been shot when she stepped out of her house to check on her dogs,” Sheriff Phil Hodapp explained to WCCO.

The teen told investigators that she had asked Pickering not to ride his lawnmower through her yard. She also said that he often carried a pistol with him on the lawnmower.

When the girl later went outside to tie up her barking dog, she saw someone crouching, and then felt three bullets strike her. She said that she could not walk, but was able to pull herself into the house to call 911.

Neighbors saw Pickering run through the teen’s yard, and he was quickly identified to police after the shooting.

Officers who searched his home found a .45-calibre semi-automatic pistol hidden in an air vent, which matched bullet casings found at the crime scene. Officers also noticed fresh grass stains on Pickering’s jeans.

The suspect, however, insisted that he had not seen the gun in about a week. When officers confronted him with the evidence, Pickering reportedly admitted to the shooting.

The criminal complaint said that Pickering told officers he had taken his daughters for a ride on the mower, and then the girl came to his house to ask him to stop trespassing.

Pickering said that he “went to her house, knelt by a pine tree and shot her twice after she came out the front door,” the AP reported.

The victim was stabilized at Bemidji Sanford Hospital, and then was taken to Duluth for additional treatment. She was expected to recover from her wounds.

Pickering was charged with premeditated attempted first-degree murder. He was being held at Beltrami County Jail in lieu of $300,000 bond.

WCCO reported that Pickering had been employed at the Northwestern Minnesota Juvenile Center as a corrections worker until June 9 of this year.

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Major Cross Poster, I'm expecting you to come forward and make your observations, any time now.

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Dwain Wilson wrote:Getting this thread back on track, there's this report of yet another responsible gun owner...

80-Year-Old Man Has No Regrets About Gunning Down Intruder Who Said She Was Pregnant

An 80-year-old Long Beach homeowner has some choice quotes but no regrets about an alleged botched home burglary that ended in him shooting a woman to death.

Retiree Tom Greer said he came home Tuesday night to find out that his upscale Bixby Knolls home was in the midst of being ransacked by a man and woman. Greer told NBC Los Angeles that they both tackled him, threw him to the ground and jumped on top of him. They then proceeded to open his safe containing thousands of dollars right in front of him.

Greer said they didn't appear to be armed, but he went and got his .22-caliber Smith and Wesson revolver. He told NBC: "I come back and they see me with a gun, and they run."

The man escaped but the woman didn't. Greer fired at her in an alley behind his house. "She says, 'Don't shoot me, I'm pregnant! I'm going to have a baby!' And I shot her anyway," Greer said.

NBC asked him what happened next: "She was dead. I shot her twice, she best be dead ... (The man) had run off and left her." Greer said he had never shot or killed anyone in his life. He added, "I shot her so that's going to leave a message on his mind for the rest of his life."

Greer was treated at a hospital today for a severe shoulder and collarbone injury.Police told City News Service the woman was in her 20s, and, as Greer said, she was dead at the scene. Long Beach Police are investigating the circumstances, but they haven't arrested anyone including Greer, who copped to the shooting.

Yes, she was a thief. But he was no longer in imminent danger. Not self-defense. Murder, plain and simple.

I heard an interview with this guy in which he claims he's "a good Christian."

Someone ought to explain to this guy that Christ never advocated for shooting pregnant women in the back.

She was pregnant committing a burglary and tackling an 80 year old man. Can't say that I feel too sorry that she is dead. The gun apparently worked, it scared them away, however if this man followed them and shot her, he needs to be prosecuted. I could see a case for 2nd degree, but probably wind up with manslaughter at the very worst.

Looks like they have charged her accomplice with her murder. Hasn't been sent to the DA yet, but Mr. Greer may get off without a hitch. The girl wasn't pregnant by the way.

Just one opinon wrote:He killed her out of anger and should be put away for a long time.

After giving this comment some thought, I retract this statement.

If someone attacked and beat my 81 year old mother and was in the act of robbing her and she was able to get to her gun. I would guess that all shots fired would be pay back for the beating more than trying to defend herself.

This man was beaten and left and his ability to gain access to a firearm, might be all that saved his life. Who knows what they might have done to him before leaving had he not gotten his gun.

It's obvious that the two youths had no compassion for him and it looks more like he just returned the favor. It's sad that someone died, but at least it wasn't the old man that didn't choose to get into a brawl to start with.

It would have been better not to have killed a fleeing suspect, but you can't ignore the fact that this is just one more case in many where a homeowner was saved by a gun.

A man with a concealed carry permit shot at an armed robbery suspect who was running from a cell phone store in Crestwood, prompting an officer who was also chasing the suspect to take cover, police said.

The man with the permit told police he was about to step inside an AT&T store at 4756 W. Cal-Sag Road around noon Saturday when he noticed the store was being robbed, Crestwood police said in a statement.

The man said he stayed outside to prevent anyone from entering, police said. After he saw the suspect leaving through a back door, he entered the store and ran out the back too, according to police.

Meanwhile, an officer had been flagged down by several people who told them the store was being robbed, police said. The officer spotted someone running from the rear of the building with a large duffel bag and a gun in his hand, police said.

As the officer began chasing the suspect, the man with the concealed carry permit saw the suspect and fired two shots, police said.

"Since the officer did not know where the shots were fired from, he was forced to terminate his foot pursuit and take cover for his own safety," police said in the statement.