LOL at the front page article on the 900, which is just an attack on AT&T.

I have $100 to bet Peter that Win8 will be able to be updated on the Lumia 900 on AT&T. Just like every other WP7 512MB phone (except maybe the abandoned Dell Venue Pro), anyone can put whatever updates they want on their phone pretty easily.

$100 that every 512 MiB handset will see a carrier-approved, supported update?

LOL at the front page article on the 900, which is just an attack on AT&T.

I have $100 to bet Peter that Win8 will be able to be updated on the Lumia 900 on AT&T. Just like every other WP7 512MB phone (except maybe the abandoned Dell Venue Pro), anyone can put whatever updates they want on their phone pretty easily.

$100 that every 512 MiB handset will see a carrier-approved, supported update?

I'll go with just the Lumia 900. Hmm... "carrier approved". Does updating a stock device, with stock software count? (Though I guess they will probably get rid of the nice Zune client by then).

And I'm assuming the 900 will get released elsewhere too.

But yeah, I'm willing to put $100 up, just for the fun of it. (On just the 900). Blew more than that on a single dice roll this weekend in Vegas anyway. Maybe it'll make some part of a story later.

I also fully expect I'll be able to put Win8 on my Titan, both Focuses (Focii?) and my beloved HD2 also. Those might take slightly more effort though.

I'll go with just the Lumia 900. Hmm... "carrier approved". Does updating a stock device, with stock software count? (Though I guess they will probably get rid of the nice Zune client by then).

No, it's got to be carrier approved. i.e. the phone says "I have an update now, plug me into Zune" (or whatever new update client they use). Manually downloading .cabs and using UpdateWP7.exe doesn't count. Nor does debranding the phone in the registry.

Just got my Lumia 900 about two hours ago. AT&T stores locally were completely sold out of the blue ones this afternoon, but the one I had talked to the asst manager at got a few in stock around 8PM, and so I got a nice call from her letting me know they had two more.

So far I like it. The OS is less "complete" in places than Android+Sense, but I like the concept and the way it does things a lot.

Looking for a few good apps... especially an ePub ebook reader. I'm trying Bookviser, but I'd like a bit more customizability. Fbreader for Android was pretty much perfect. Highest priority feature: ability to use the volume buttons as page up/page down.

Biggest annoyance so far: if I do something like install the Skydrive app, it requires me to reenter my Windows Live ID, instead of picking it up from the system settings...

Also, I haven't yet figured out how to get pictures on the thing over SkyDrive, it says in the Pictures app that the albums are empty in the folders I uploaded them to. I can view the file list in the SkyDrive app, but not see the picture... UPDATE: if I send a link to myself to one of the pictures through email, I can view it/download it to phone at that point. But that's a giant pain!

Thanks, all. I'll give those readers a try. Haven't installed any of them yet, but right now the two main things I'm missing from FBReader are "View by Series" where it shows the various book series of the epub files I've got locally on the device and, if I choose a series, shows the books in order inside it, and also the status bar on the bottom of the FBReader display that showed battery percentage and a clock.

Re Skydrive: I was using the wrong tool for the job to try to get pictures and such on the phone anyway. Turns out that's what Zune or the Mac Connector software is for. Duh.

No timeframe, no list of models, no valid explanation of why existing users have to go SIX MONTHS before getting their keyboards fixed, no valid explanation of why 8107/8112 are safe to use on new handsets but not when installed on existing ones.

Just got my Lumia 900 yesterday. I went from Verizon to ATT and man there are a lot of areas where the phone gets NO signal whatsoever. I am not in an LTE area so that is off the table for me.

I can say that the battery sure doesn't last long. Maybe there is some settings I can adjust to get better life, but for now I think just trying to find a cell network as taken about half my battery life in 6 hours. I may have checked email once or twice but with no network there are no updates.

The back of the phone also gets warm with use. It is right in the rear center of the phone. I am talking even with irregular use. It is not quite cooking eggs but it is warm enough to notice.

This is my first windows phone so I am trying to get the hang of it.

I am thinking about emailing Amazon to see if I may have some grounds to get a new one. Phones should not run that hot out of the box.

Just got my Lumia 900 yesterday. I went from Verizon to ATT and man there are a lot of areas where the phone gets NO signal whatsoever. I am not in an LTE area so that is off the table for me.

I can say that the battery sure doesn't last long. Maybe there is some settings I can adjust to get better life, but for now I think just trying to find a cell network as taken about half my battery life in 6 hours. I may have checked email once or twice but with no network there are no updates.

The back of the phone also gets warm with use. It is right in the rear center of the phone. I am talking even with irregular use. It is not quite cooking eggs but it is warm enough to notice.

I think these are all related. My phone doesn't get warm, has better battery life than my last two phones, but I also have LTE and very strong signal everywhere around me.

Also, if you don't live in an LTE-equipped area, I don't think the Lumia 900 is really the best phone, really. Especially if you don't get good AT&T signal.

Yeah, batteries hath no fury like a low signal. My Focus frequently gets hot and its battery life sucks when home and out and about because Rogers' coverage of the island outside the central downtown region seems to be pretty piss poor. For all the complaining I hear of NYC AT&T users, it's a frigging breath of fresh air using my phone there. Or anywhere I visit in the US. It's like I suddenly have a better phone: more battery life, less heat.

My most frequent issue is I will get a call and it will immediately go to voicemail. If they leave a message, I get a notification, but my phone otherwise has zero indication that someone tried to call me. In my room, I frequently fall onto EDGE instead of 3G. I'm always only at 0-2 bars of signal strength. These are not Windows Phone issues, these are issues with every phone I've ever had while living at this location.

So yeah, coverage is everything. If AT&T's coverage of your area sucks, you will not enjoy your phone at all. Just remember your issues are not WP issues, they are AT&T issues.

Bah, I am now learning the annoyance of not being able to restore my SMS messages and app settings between Windows Phones. I hope they figure that out for WP8.

None of the WM 6.x apps that do that have been ported yet?

Miwa wrote:

I have $100 to bet Peter that Win8 will be able to be updated on the Lumia 900 on AT&T. Just like every other WP7 512MB phone (except maybe the abandoned Dell Venue Pro), anyone can put whatever updates they want on their phone pretty easily.

I question that. I would put long odds that WP8 is going to implement the same contracts system that Windows 8 is. That would allow for situations like these, as long at messages were offered under contract.

(or if timing prevents them, that WP9/W9 has a unified contracting system)

AT&T is reporting that the Lumia is selling better than they expected, though they haven't given numbers yet. I guess that's good for the platform, though we'll see if that is even a blip in the overall scheme of things.

Anyone know if there's any reason that syncing (push) from Google Calendar would be more battery-heavy than syncing from Windows Live calendar? I'd imagine syncing to both would be less efficient than just one provider, and I like a few things about Windows Live calendar so far (like how a baseball schedule calendar I subscribed to on it actually synced to the phone, something I've never seen my Google one do), but am wondering if it's worth making a short-term effort to move my calendars over.

Is Google push syncing really noticeably heavier? I don't have push syncing enabled on any of my accounts, so I don't know, but Google does have a pretty weird implementation of ActiveSync so who knows...

Anyone know if there's any reason that syncing (push) from Google Calendar would be more battery-heavy than syncing from Windows Live calendar? I'd imagine syncing to both would be less efficient than just one provider, and I like a few things about Windows Live calendar so far (like how a baseball schedule calendar I subscribed to on it actually synced to the phone, something I've never seen my Google one do), but am wondering if it's worth making a short-term effort to move my calendars over.

I haven't personally noticed. Do you actually update your calendar enough to matter?

Not a good couple of days: battery life started mysteriously sucking (telling me ~20hrs left estimated on a full charge after a period of no usage, instead of 1 day, 10 hrs), and I've been bit by the AT&T data dropping bug a few times. Hopefully they're related and the patch fixes both...

Does the fact that you have to sync files/media to the device bother anyone in here? I was considering the Lumia (currently have a 3GS), but one of my biggest gripes with the iPhone is all the inane syncing required. I understand why Apple can do it and get away with it, but it's kind of a deal breaker for me... just wondering if anyone else feels similar?

Does the fact that you have to sync files/media to the device bother anyone in here? I was considering the Lumia (currently have a 3GS), but one of my biggest gripes with the iPhone is all the inane syncing required. I understand why Apple can do it and get away with it, but it's kind of a deal breaker for me... just wondering if anyone else feels similar?

Could you please be more specific?

Windows phone does over the air syncing on wireless networks or you can download a reasonable amount of stuff to the phone without plugging it in a computer. PDFs, Office docs, and pictures immediately come to mind. It doesn't support Over The Air updating though sine WP software doesn't update often this shouldn't be an issue.

I checked out the 900 this weekend. This phone is huge. Maybe that's just me though because I'm coming from a first gen BB 9700, which is a reasonable pocket size. But it seems like all the new phones are getting out of control in size. 4.3 is def too big... so I'm back on the fence whether I want to get this or not.

I checked out the 900 this weekend. This phone is huge. Maybe that's just me though because I'm coming from a first gen BB 9700, which is a reasonable pocket size. But it seems like all the new phones are getting out of control in size. 4.3 is def too big... so I'm back on the fence whether I want to get this or not.

I can't be the only one that wishes for a smaller form factor, can I?

The Lumia 900 is definitely huge, but its not the screen size to blame - its also bigger than the EVO 4G I put next to it, and a Focus S. The phone is just too big and looks like it could fit a bigger display in there. Try the Focus S or Focus Flash, but you might be surprised by how usable a 4.3" phone is in day-to-day life.

I checked out the 900 this weekend. This phone is huge. Maybe that's just me though because I'm coming from a first gen BB 9700, which is a reasonable pocket size. But it seems like all the new phones are getting out of control in size. 4.3 is def too big... so I'm back on the fence whether I want to get this or not.

I can't be the only one that wishes for a smaller form factor, can I?

The Lumia 900 is definitely huge, but its not the screen size to blame - its also bigger than the EVO 4G I put next to it, and a Focus S. The phone is just too big and looks like it could fit a bigger display in there. Try the Focus S or Focus Flash, but you might be surprised by how usable a 4.3" phone is in day-to-day life.

We're evaluating Windows phones in our environment and my boss just bought a 900 for himself. The phone really is massive (I currently use a Bold 9780). It's to the point where I may actually consider the Lumia 710 if it means getting a smaller phone.