Teach me Thy way, O LORD; I will walk in Thy truth; Unite my heart to fear Thy name. I will give thanks to Thee, O Lord my God, with all my heart, And will glorify Thy name forever.

Glenn Beck is all the rage among evangelicals these days. For those who don’t know, Beck has is a conservative radio talk show host and has a show on the Fox News channel. His popularity has grown exponentially since the Obama take-over in the White House and our trek into big government and socialism.

Now evangelicals are embracing him as a beacon of hope in this dark hour. Okay, maybe that statement is a little strong, but as it were, the Beck phenomenon is hitting a fevered pitch among some church leaders despite the fact that Beck is a proud and vocal Mormon.

Megachurch Pastor Jim Garlow, of Skyline Church, now pronounces Glenn Beck saved. But Beck is a Mormon, you say? Sure. But that doesn’t matter now because he’s getting the attention of the government and his voice carries weight among social conservatives. He’s making waves, and church leaders are grabbing onto Beck’s coattails to ride the waves with him. Who cares what Beck believes, those seven mountains need to be conquered (dominionism) and he’s getting it done!

But Beck, despite being Mormon, is now being embraced by over 2,000 evangelical leaders, among whom are Gloria Copeland and John Hagee (both Word of Faith teachers).

This is from the Christian Post:

Before deciding to stand by Beck, evangelical megachurch pastor Jim Garlow said he had to do a lot sorting and watched Beck as closely as he could.

“I have listened and watched very carefully regarding clues to Glenn’s spiritual condition,” said the lead pastor of Skyline Wesleyan Church in La Mesa, Calif.

“I have interviewed several people who have been with him and have talked very specifically with him regarding his own personal salvation,” he added.

And according to Garlow, Beck has said “unequivocally” that that he relies on the atonement of Jesus on the cross for forgiveness for his sins.

“[A]nd those are almost the exact words,” Garlow recalled in a five-page memo released this past Tuesday. “Few people use the term atonement. Glenn did. “

Garlow also credited Beck for laying out “the clearest explanation of the crucifixion and the resurrection that I have ever heard on national TV” about a month ago.

Even prominent Southern Baptist leader Richard Land was reportedly surprised to hear the Gospel so clearly on secular television.

“I have interviewed persons who have talked specifically with Glenn about his personal salvation – persons extremely well known in Christianity – and they have affirmed (using language evangelicals understand), ‘Glenn is saved,’” Garlow reported. “He understands receiving Christ as savior.” (Source)

Garlow pronounces Beck saved just because he uses the right buzz words and says the right things, despite the fact that Mormonism is not Christianity, and the Jesus of Mormonism is not Jesus, the Son of God from Scripture. The Jesus of Mormonism is Lucifer’s brother who has no power to atone or save. The Mormon Jesus is a false Jesus. Here is how Garlow wiggles around that problem:

Still, Garlow made it clear that he doesn’t see eye-to-eye with Beck on a number of things, including theology. But the megachurch pastor noted that everyone’s theological understanding is off and that only the most arrogant would say that its 100 percent perfect.

So, this pastor says no one’s theological understanding is 100%, and those who say it is are arrogant? This man isn’t a pastor, he’s a wolf that the Scriptures warned would arise from within the church and would devour the sheep. God didn’t leave us in the dark about His purposes, nor His plan of salvation. If we can’t really know what God’s plan of salvation is with 100% accuracy, then God is a derelict and unjust God. This can never be said of God, for He left us His clear and easily understandable Word contained within Scripture.

Garlow goes on to say:

“Here is my question: if your theology is off slightly, but you still trust exclusively in Jesus Christ’s death on the cross for your salvation, and in his resurrection, are you still saved? Going to heaven? Yes,” Garlow argued.

“How far off might your theology be – and yet still trust exclusively in Jesus Christ’s death on the cross for your salvation, and believe in his resurrection – and still be saved? Is it 10% or 15% or 20%? Or what?”

So, theology can be a little off and still be sound? Still have the power of salvation? Does this mean that Garlow believes there is salvation in the Mormon doctrine? He may not realize it, but this is exactly what he’s saying. If Glenn Beck is saved, then anyone in the Mormon church is saved and the Mormon church is just another “Christian” denomination, it’s just a little off. See how fast this can snowball? According to Garlow – a PASTOR – theology isn’t really that important. But, once you start compromising the integrity of Scripture, the whole truth of the gospel has been maligned and what you’re teaching becomes a false gospel.

But before the rally even began, knowing there would more than likely be objections from Bible-believing Christians (and rightly so), Garlow took a defensive posture and defended himself by distributing a five-aged memo entitled, “In case some criticize you for attending the Glenn Beck Rally – since he is a Mormon.” In that memo he says:

“Glenn Beck is being used by God – mightily,” Garlow wrote in the memo, which was obtained by CNN. “The left loves to slam him and do so viscerally and often with vulgarities. Glenn is not perfect… But his expose on America’s sins is stellar.” (Source)

The more Garlow speaks, the more he damns himself. This isn’t the first time Garlow has joined hands with Mormons. According to the same article cited above, Garlow partnered with Mormons in California to help pass Proposition 8, a bill that would outlaw gay marriage (which has now been reversed by a liberal judge).

We’ve entered an era where apostate pastors are focused more on accruing power and advancing their political agendas than they are on winning lost souls by sharing the powerful gospel of Jesus Christ. For a pastor like that, sound doctrine won’t be important, not if they can throw out theology for the sake of socio-political gain; but a true pastor will hold fast to the true gospel of salvation regardless of political climate, and will have as their central focus Jesus Christ and Him crucified. They won’t bargain, they won’t compromise, and they won’t waiver. I like what Brannon Howse said regarding this issue:

“The Apostle Paul warns Christians against uniting with unbelievers in spiritual endeavors,” Howse wrote. “While I applaud and agree with many of Glenn Beck’s conservative and constitutional views, that does not give me or any other Bible-believing Christian justification to compromise Biblical truth by spiritually joining Beck.”

AMEN!

I do believe Glenn Beck is sincere in his beliefs, but sincerely wrong. Horribly wrong. Please pray that he would come to know the true gospel of Jesus Christ and that God would grant him repentance unto salvation.

For an insightful expose on this matter, please click here to read, “The Next Great Awakening…or Great Deadening” on Herescope .

46 Responses to Evangelicals and Glenn Beck

I agree. I am definitely a fan of many of Glen Beck’s views, however, I also know that as a Mormon he has embraced false doctrine, and I also pray for his salvation. We can never be willing to compromise anyone’s spiritual position simply because we stand together on moral, economic or social issues. I sincerely hope that those evangelicals that have Glen’s ear will tell him the TRUTH.

People, It’s all going to hell and not in a hand basket” We are watching the prophetic word of scripture come to pass. We are headed for a one world government and all of those who “look” to be of good standing are being used to fulfill the scriptures.

Only those who believe in the true Lord will find salvation and our kingdom is not of this world, but yet to be seen. Beck and all of the croonies of the dominion camp, word of faith, nar can belive what they want, but it ain’t the true gospel they preach.

There will be a NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH created by God as this one is destroyed.

Bill Keller says, ” The danger of Beck is that by using his political positions, he lures in conservatives, many Christians, ALL the Mormons, with the vast majority of his followers being of NO FAITH since the better percentage of the last two generations have never even been to church. That makes this group prime candidates for Beck’s “faith” as he calls it, and puts their eternal souls in peril if they end up buying the lies of Mormonism. What makes this worse is that Beck does this with the help of high profile Christians who have sold out the faith for whatever financial and other benefits they get from being with him. If you remember, cult leader Myung Sung Moon did the same thing in the 80s, buying off top evangelicals like Dobson, Schuller, and many others. Romney did the same thing during the ’08 elections in trying to win the important Christian vote.
The god of Beck isn’t the God of the Bible, but someone who was once a human and ascended to godlike status as Beck believes he too will one day. Mormonism believes in polytheism, or NUMEROUS DEITIES, not one! Sadly, the one who they believe is NOT a deity is their version of jesus! Their jesus is the result of a sexual union between their “god” and Mary, making their jesus a created being and the brother of Lucifer. ”

Ask any Mormon that comes knocking on your door if they believe in Jesus Christ and they will most assuredly say yes. Ask them if Jesus Christ died for their sins and they will also say yes. The problem is, its not a life transforming faith that results in works, but a faith that must INCLUDE works that will earn them a place in the celestial kingdom. God’s grace is only something that will hopefully cover their shortcomings in the works department. It is a false religion, period, and from the surface, may seem plausable when endored by celebrities like Beck.

Never mind politics,Beck is a Mormon and a Mormon is not saved by the blood of Jesus and going 2 Heaven.Mormons beleive a host of whacked out stuff,one being trusting in ones’own works,I should know as at one time in my life I practiced the Mormon faith and it is at the opposite end of the spectrum in regards 2 Christanity.The Mormon church is a cult,and a dangerous one.People are easily deceived by their presentation of what they beleive and what they beleive is not from the God of scripture.People need 2 do their homework on cult’s like the Mormon’s,Jehovah’s Witnesses etc. 2 c what they beleive,you will have your eyes opened real wide.Beck is a Mormon thru and thru and no matter what he says about politics his faith and what he beleives about Mormonism comes first,make no mistake he is a dangerous guy and an enemy of the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

This is one of the many ways by which the ONE WORLD CHURCH will start. It really is sad. I had a similar experience this morning when a muslim named “Abdullah” asked my church to join other churches (from downtown dallas) at his mosque in order to pray together. He was adamant in getting our church to join. I was outraged even at the thought of that idea!

Hi Pastor Ken– Apprising Ministries is a blessing and Crystal Whitt is a wonderful correspondent. Without her and the Slaughter of the Sheep blog site, I may have missed out on so much pertinent information as the NAR, IHOP movements and so many other organizations that are questionable. Mostly, the fun and fellowship and freedom to be and speak our minds, I feel, is so vital to a healthy walk with Christ, regardless of our differences.

To answer your question, Rich and I are ordained and licensed for six years with the FGEA–Full Gospel Evangelistic Association. We have served God for over 60 years combined. We are evangelists and have ministered in music, dramatic arts, and are serving God in whatever and wherever He chooses. He’s the boss. He called us– we go, plain and simple.

We are now working on a book– if that goes, great; if it flatlines, so be it.

So, that’s about it– I prefer to keep things short and simple on sites as it can become burdensome to read. I also like to keep my life as private as possible– but I do not mind sharing when God gives the release.

@Jamal If you don’t mind me asking a question – which I know some will see me as playing ‘devils advocate’ with – but didn’t one of the apostles go into places not Christian, one going so far as to even use a statuette and it’s what was written upon it as a means to teach the gospel (speaking of the ‘unknown God’ sermon)?

Where do we draw the line in going out and being who and what we are when interacting with others (“epistle written and read among men”)? Also, do you see a line that needs to be drawn for possible some, not others?

To keep my comments within the context of at least addressing the topic of this particular area – I find that few that I know are even aware that Beck is a Mormon. Thinking further from what I wrote earlier on another one of the topics, I know that I have heard evangelical Christians that I know swear that he and his approach are ‘God’s answer to the problems that the United States is facing’ – but sure wouldn’t be making that comment if they knew he was a Mormon. My personal view – I do my own research and while I do read others comments about certain political topics, esp. around election time – I go with my own ‘gut feeling’. When reading and listening to those running for office – I just get a personal insight that I rely on. Might be right, might be wrong – but rather stand for my own view vs. what someone else is telling me my view should be. Just my .02 cents worth.

I completely agree with the warnings of the article. Like Brannon Howse and others who are commenting, I agree with Beck on his Constitutional and conservative views, but absolutely not with his Mormonism; and I am extraordinarily uncomfortable with evangelical carelessness in all of this. However, a couple of cautions which I offer very carefully because I know how easy it is to dismiss them.

One caution is, if what these evangelical pastors are saying about is anywhere near true, then Beck desperately needs “Jesus and Nicodemus” moments to be straightly and clearly confronted with the Gospel and with love faced with such things as our Lord saying He was the “only Way, Truth and Life” and anyone who follows Him is to take up his Cross and follow Him, etc. (To be honest, we need the same confrontations in evangelical churches.)

The problem of course is that Mormonism has co-opted the language of evangelicalism and in any “Jesus and Nicodemus” moments they’d confess agreement; so we need to remember that Jesus didn’t use the buzz words that the Pharisees knew, but those they didn’t such as “you must be born again” — and this teaching naturally led to the Gospel statements in the rest of John 3: “perish or everlasting life,” and “wrath or believe” and “darkness or light.”

The other caution is that the current “Beck phenomenon” illustrates the hunger in our country now for anchors: anchors in time-tested values and truth — for the faith of our fathers. And I fear that the Church, who has the Truth, is missing all this, distracted by a crowd-pleasing non-Gospel of steps to success, prosperity or growth. Beyond Beck is a cry for a spiritual awakening not fun-and-games church. Let’s not miss the moment.

Glenn Beck is leading people away from true Christianity and making it acceptable to be a Mormon. The true just do not mix. He is leading people to straight to hell in a hand basket. Jesus saves (and changes the heart). not a political party!

Christians, Comrades and Fellow Canucks; Greetings!
So many Christians these days: Mormon Christians, Emergent Christians, Transformational Christians, NAR Christians, Muslim Christians, Tolerant Christians, Intolerant Christians…
It’s very confusing. It used to be that if you were a Christian, you got to believe in Christ and the Bible as it was written. But now we are muddled. The lines are blurred by interfaith, alliance of faiths and unity for purpose.
How did we get here?
Well, in my very humble opinion…we mixed politics with true Christianity. The goal is different. The goal of true Christianity is eternal life. The goal of politics is this life.
Therefore the dictates are different. Politics says to Christianity, “you can’t do that!” And if Christianity wants to blend, it has to obey the dictates of politics. Funny thing…politics will not return the favour…
I think that until Christ comes back to rule and reign, “political Christian” will remain a paradox…similar to the paradox of “happily married”. :-)

Dominionism is what you find in mormonism and that is the same agenda as the NAR has and people like Sarah Palin. The NAR is promoting Palin. And the little god-theory of people like Copeland and Dollar looks also a lot like mormonism…

They come together, as I wrote a while ago: groups that seemed to have no connection, are joining together (prophetic, prosperity, and now also mormonism) like a web from a spider.

The Living Word or Bread of life once again desires to be made flesh through a body of people joined with Him in a holy consummation. As we live not by natural bread alone but by the living Word proceeding from the mouth of God, the bread of abundant life, even so the hidden truth of godliness will become part of our spiritual DNA.

Doesn’t that sound familiar? New Age says Christ is coming again, but not He himself will come, but Christ will come in us… Is Davis, NAR-prophet, saying the same?

Ken,
I was wondering if you have checked out the youtube clip of Beck on 7/13/10 where he gave the gospel message. Is it possible that he does not believe or is not aware of all the false teachings of the Mormon church? Since he has David Barton and other “evangelicals” (I put them in quotes because I’m not familiar with them) and not Mormon leaders on his show is interesting in itself. Beck is also very enamored of George Whitefield and his sermons. I would appreciate your thoughts on this. We must continue to pray for Mr. Beck that he knows the true Christ. And thank you for all that you do – I have learned so much about the emergent church movement from your blogs. God bless!

John O Anderson thank you thank you, I totally agree, I watched beck part way and then I had to shut it off. I don’t care to watch him again untill there is a true conversion to Jesus Christ and Truth. Thanks to everyone who put up the red flags on Beck as I didn’t know he was mormon. I knew something was wrong but didn’t know what. God bless you, from cowbelle

@Ruitje – the speed at which they are unifying is mind blowing! It has to be a supernatural tower of babel being built by supernatural means. It’s time for the true Christian to come out and be separate. This is a Satanic empire! Good posts, girl!

I am having an argument with myself about word usage. In the above post, I used the word paradox like this:
I think that until Christ comes back to rule and reign, “political Christian” will remain a paradox…similar to the paradox of “happily married”.

So the argument I am having with myself is this: did I use the right word or should I have used oxymoron?
Is Christian politics/political Christian a paradox?
par·a·dox
–noun
1.
a statement or proposition that seems self-contradictory or absurd but in reality expresses a possible truth.
2.
a self-contradictory and false proposition.

or is it an oxymoron:
ox·y·mo·ron
–noun,
a figure of speech by which a locution produces an incongruous, seemingly self-contradictory effect, as in “cruel kindness” or “to make haste slowly.”

Your post states “The Jesus of Mormonism is Lucifer’s brother who has no power to atone or save. The Mormon Jesus is a false Jesus. ” You are absolutely unequivocally wrong. The ONLY way whereby salvation comes is through the atonement of Jesus Christ. Our Savior, Jesus Christ is the only ONE who has the power to save us. This is Mormon doctrine and anyone who states anything other than this is a liar. Shame on you.

” The lines are blurred by interfaith, alliance of faiths and unity for purpose.
How did we get here?”

So those who love (believe and practice) not the truth will be damned – for this cause God has sent us a strong dellusion. As far as mormons being false converts, so are 90% of evangelicals now adays so there’s already some common ground for unity.

You have good cause to be upset. Anyone who would teach that Jesus is Lucifer’s brother is either severely misinformed or a liar.

In her introduction (above), Chrystal wrote, “The Jesus of Mormonism is Lucifer’s brother who has no power to atone or save. The Mormon Jesus is a false Jesus.”

Is Chrystal severely misinformed? Is she a liar? Is she telling the truth? The Bible teaches that Jesus is the creator, and therefore cannot be the brother of Lucifer. But let’s see what Mormon doctrine teaches.

1. The following is from “Gospel Principles” on the Mormon website:

“Every person who was ever born on earth was our spirit brother or sister in heaven. The first spirit born to our heavenly parents was Jesus Christ (see D&C 93:21), so he is literally our elder brother (see Discourses of Brigham Young, p. 26). Because we are the spiritual children of our heavenly parents, we have inherited the potential to develop their divine qualities. If we choose to do so, we can become perfect, just as they are.” ( http://tinyurl.com/2ekwuqq )

2. The following is from “The Pearl of Great Price,” Moses 4:1-4:

“And I, the Lord God, spake unto Moses, saying: That Satan, whom thou hast commanded in the name of mine Only Begotten, is the same which was from the beginning, and he came before me, saying—Behold, here am I, send me, I will be thy son, and I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine honor.

“But, behold, my Beloved Son, which was my Beloved and Chosen from the beginning, said unto me—Father, thy will be done, and the glory be thine forever.

“Wherefore, because that Satan rebelled against me, and sought to destroy the agency of man, which I, the Lord God, had given him, and also, that I should give unto him mine own power; by the power of mine Only Begotten, I caused that he should be cast down;

“And he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive and to blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice.”

“On first hearing, the doctrine that Lucifer and our Lord, Jesus Christ, are brothers may seem surprising to some–especially to those unacquainted with latter-day revelations. But both the scriptures and the prophets affirm that Jesus Christ and Lucifer are indeed offspring of our Heavenly Father and, therefore, spirit brothers. Jesus Christ was with the Father from the beginning. Lucifer, too, was an angel who was in authority in the presence of God, a son of the morning. (See Isa. 14:12; D&C 76:25-27.) Both Jesus and Lucifer were strong leaders with great knowledge and influence. But as the Firstborn of the Father, Jesus was Lucifer’s older brother.”

4. Spencer W. Kimball is a past president of the Mormon church. On page 163 of “The Teachings of Spencer W. Kimball,” Kimball wrote:

“The importance of not accommodating temptation in the least degree is underlined by the Savior’s example. Did not he recognize the danger when he was on the mountain with his fallen brother, Lucifer, being sorely tempted by that master tempter? He could have opened the door and flirted with danger by saying, ‘All right, Satan, I’ll listen to your proposition. I need not succumb, I need not yield, I need not accept—but I’ll listen.'”

Thunder, the Mormon church teaches that Jesus and Lucifer are spirit brothers. The Mormon “Jesus” has no power to atone or save. The Mormon “Jesus” is a false “Jesus” that the Apostle Paul warned about in Galatians 1:6-9 and 2 Corinthians 11:3-4.

Chrystal told the truth. Mormon leaders have lied to their members. Shame on them.

Mormon-talk is very proficient at being able to use ‘Christian’ lingo but remaining latter day saints nonetheless. Of course (!) they believe in Jesus! They’re the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints! they’ll tell you. They are VERY good at knowing exactly how to answer born again believers in conversation re: questions about their beliefs.

Glenn definitely believes in the saving atonement of Jesus Christ and is also planning on one day being exactly like him – having millions of spiritual children ..just..like..him…

Do what I did – turn the radio off. Either that or turn it to something that will help keep your blood pressure down such as classical music or the weather if you get XM.

After reading Glenn Beck’s testimony (online), and watching a few of his videos on YouTube, Beck has a basic head knowledge of the Mormon “Jesus,” and appears to have a “Christmas story” knowledge of Jesus, but he doesn’t know the Jesus of the Bible.

There is a BIG difference in head knowledge and heart knowledge:

1 Corinthians 15:34: “Become sober-minded as you ought, and stop sinning; for some have no knowledge of God. I speak this to your shame.”

Titus 1:16: “They profess to know God, but by their deeds they deny Him, being detestable and disobedient and worthless for any good deed.”

Romans 10:1-2: “Brethren, my heart’s desire and my prayer to God for them is for their salvation. For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not in accordance with knowledge.”

Galatians 4:8 speaks to those who worship or believe in the existence of many “gods”: “However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods.”

Mormonism teaches the existence of many “gods” and that Mormon men can become “gods”.

Proverbs 2:1-5 speaks to those who will sincerely search for God and truth:

“My son, if you will receive my words and treasure my commandments within you, make your ear attentive to wisdom, incline your heart to understanding;
for if you cry for discernment, lift your voice for understanding; if you seek her as silver and search for her as for hidden treasures; then you will discern the fear of the LORD and discover the knowledge of God.”

And, in John 17:3, eternal life is based on knowing the real Jesus of the Bible:

“This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.”

To know the Jesus of the Bible personally is to gain eternal life with Him in heaven.

In a nutshell, Mormonism teaches that:

— Adam had many wives and is the “God” and “Father” of Mormonism.
— Jesus was not begotten by the Holy Ghost, but was created through sexual intercourse between the “Father” and “Mary”.
— Jesus is only one “god” among many gods.
— Lucifer (Satan) and Jesus are spirit brothers.
— Jesus was married.
— grace plus works equals salvation (follow all the rules and regulations of the Mormon church and you might make it to heaven).
— man can become a “god” and inhabit his own planet with multiple wives.
— no one will enter the gates of heaven without the consent of Joseph Smith (founder and first president of the Mormon church).

Like most cults, Mormonism denys the Trinity and the exclusive deity of Jesus Christ.

Currently, Glenn Beck is the “media savior” to many, and free publicity for the Mormon church. But don’t fall for it. Step back and look at the whole picture. Don’t allow truth to be sacrified on the altar of “unification”.

Finally, the Mormon church is to Mormons what the Pope is to Catholics. The “leaders” call the shots and dictate the rules and guidelines. If anyone disagrees, depending on the disagreement, Mormons and Catholics can be excommunicated.

But praise the Lord that God has extended His mercy and grace, and has rescued Mormons from eternal damnation into the loving arms of the real Jesus!

great job on the post. As an ‘ex-listener’ of Glenn Beck I feel responsible to warn Christians of Beck’s false gospel. I have a video from youtube of him giving his testimony in Mormonism, it’s not a testimony of repentance or regeneration, it’s a burnning in my boosom type…check it out: Don’t be Fooled, Comrade. on News4themasses.wordpress
Also, Christian, Beware of Beck. Was my latest post before the Kool-aid Rally this weekend. Now CNN is calling Beck, “the New Christian Leader.” great. People on twitter (Christian Conservatives I follow/have recently dropped) were calling it a “Revival.” Wow, a revival to what and whom I ask. Certainly one cannot have a revival without Repentance, and Salvation unto Jesus Christ. So what was it, a revival to whose god? Beck’s, or the Interfaith god of Jim Wallis, the G8, the UN, Obama, Oprah, et al! God Help us all, the road is narrow and we’ll see these converts coming after us narrow minded Jesus Christ followers soon! WTG BGEA/GBEA

David, the LDS church has a public face and a not-so-public face. The deeper you get, the stranger it gets. But for the sake of new recruits, it is “Christian speak”. We are all just Christians! I don’t think so. From the testimony of those who have gone deeper, we have no excuse for our ignorance.

No..I don’t mind the question at all. Yes, one of the apostles (paul) did use the idols of Mars Hill to preach about the one true God.
However, that is unrelated to my situation (mentioned in the comment above) because “abdullah” was looking to to start ecumenicallism ( a joining of faiths). He, unlike Glen Beck, was trying to get all the churches and religions of downtown dallas to join his islamic church for a time for prayer.

As christians we can never agree to such a thing. Never. Doing so, would cause us to contradict the teachings of Jesus as “the ONLY name by which men might be saved”

@jamal Thank you for the very considerate reply. I was hoping that you would see the point that I was making.

My concern and point of view comes from the point of view that many will totally refuse to talk to others – thus no witness at all – except if it on their own grounds, them totally in ‘control’ (can’t think of a better word – but best I can think of at the moment.

My son lives up around that area, so was wondering what in the world was going on that I hadn’t heard about. There are times I would swear that I feel like the world is totally passing me by……

@jamal I re-read what I wrote, and not able to go back and make clarification – want you to know that you DID indeed see the broader point that I was hinting at. I added the other comments because others have actually brought it up with me – thus thought to toss it into the mix.

As To Beck – the whole thing of people just going gaga over the guy bothers me. It is – lack of a better word and the best that I can come up with – very close to ‘idol worship’ – as if he has all the answers, the one that can solve all the problems. As I have told others who want to press me about my political views – I don’t vote the party – I vote the individual. That means that there are people from all parties that I have voted for at times.

But as to Beck – I see him as somewhat dangerous. I also see the likes of Rush and several other talk show hosts as having WAY too much power and control – and before someone says that is an overstep – – just LOOK at the very NUMBERS of people that recently went to the Beck outing and the words coming out of their mouths, read their written comments. I don’t think that it is an overstep to say that many of them are just short of calling him the “messiah” to save us from the problems that we face.

i sometimes listen to glenn. i do like his lessons in americian history. i would not go to a bible study from him.
i believe he said the reason he went to a mormon church/temple was because of one of his children, not a desicion he made personally

@Chuck you said I believe the reason he went to a mormon church/temple was because of one of his children, not a decision he made personally.

Who leads the home the child or Glenn. He is the leader of his home, the head of his house. He still made a profession of faith in the Mormon cult. He made a decision to joined the Morman cult. Bottomline, Glenn Beck is a Mormon.
All these evangelicals that are linking of with him are wrong. They, Sarah Palin, John Hagee, Jim Garlow and many more, at some point are commanded to stand for God’s truth and pray for the LORD to open Glenn eyes and heart to the true gospel not a gospel that can not save no one. If they do not contend for the true gospel, thenwe must discern their fruit and stay away from them as well. Sarah Palin is from the old latter rain movement/Joel’s Army / 7 mountain mandate agenda. She is with the Assemblies of God that never renounded these heterical teachings. She is with the New Apostolic Reformation bunch. John Hagee in 1975 or 76 had an adultress affair with a woman in his congregation and is married to her today, Diane Casto Hagee. John has even said that Jesus Christ did not come to be the Jews messiah, and never claimed to be the messiah, you can google that. Jim Garlow he speaks for himself. They are speaking swealing word’s with their mouths but their heart’s are far from the true God, which is in Matthew.

My point is this Glenn Beck is basically preaching (the gospel) “another gospel “and these evangelical that are linking up with him, instead of reproving him and restoring him to the true gospel, the only Gospel that can save.

Nehemiah 13:26
Was it not because of marriages like these that Solomon king of Israel sinned?

A marriage is when two people become one. Is Christianity marrying a Political Religious Enterprise for the sake of reform?

1 John 4:10
This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.

As Christians, why would we marry “foreign wives” so to speak, when God has told us not to?
But we are in love…with personalities, with ideals, with reform…
Even if Glenn Beck and followers have a love as big as the ocean…and they want to restore what was lost, it isn’t going to happen, for one simple, glaring reason. God, in his Word has a different plan.
I believe that the world catastrophies are God’s judgement on a world that wants nothing to do with him or his plan for Israel. They want their own religions, their own idols, their own gods of choice.
So here we have loving individuals who seem to have a plan for uniting the world in an effort to bring a solution. The only problem is, as a Christian, if we marry into that family, we will have circumnavigate the cross, and in that process eliminate God’s choice for a solution.
Change agents for Socialism? Peace? Good works? …men’s solutions. If we choose to marry this one…we will live with the consequences.
or Christ? God’s solution. If we choose to marry this one, we will have eternal life.

K – I did watch Bill O’Reilly with Glenn Beck…on the net. In my opinion, politically speaking, Beck, by himself, would be great. I love that guy! Sarah Palin by herself, is great. The trouble is, they are not by themselves, and all the weird stuff is going on behind the scenes. There is nothing obvious to the ordinary observer. All you see are trees…very ordinary.
It’s when you step back, that you see the forest. A whole forest of spiritual deception.

Well, who knows how it will all play out. We know that in the end, the spiritual wickedness of Babylon is going to be judged, and we know that we are told to “come out of her my people, so that you will not share in her sins”.
It’s interesting to watch the spiritual connections, the fires being lit, the alliances forming, who is associating with who and false religions uniting with false prophets…. and linking arms on platforms…
The noble purpose of restoring America, is now sliding into “revival” and “reawakening” (in their own words). But revival to what? That’s what a Christian has to ask himself…with so many faiths joining in…what will they do in the end? Once caught in Satan’s web of deception, it is not so easy to break free.

Re: Glenn Beck. I said, “I love this guy!” I should qualify what I love about him. I love his quit wit, his charm and phenomenal gift for communication. I also love that he appears to love Israel, God’s Holy City. What I don’t like are his shades of grey…

Carolyn, what you wrote about “marrying strange wives” hit me very deeply. I am just studying Malachi 2, with commentaries, and have come to that very same conclusion. It was very offensive to God Almighty, when his “peculiar” people (who are supposed to be very different from the nations around them), intermix with “foreigners”, aliens to the covenant of God. One commentator points out that the “covenant of marriage, as well as the covenant of peculiarity” was profaned.

We don’t LIKE to be “peculiar” anymore! We, like Israel in the days of Samuel, want a king so we can be like the nations of the world! We want to look like, act like everyone else. We want the same music, entertainment, ambitions. If the lines are fuzzy, it’s because, as in the days of the prophets, “My people like to have it so.” We have lost the taste for the the “strait and narrow path”.

Twelve years ago, the Lord gave me Jeremiah 6:16a as a life verse, “Thus saith the Lord, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls…” That was the best advice ever, for which I am eternally grateful.

Kay Lehto, your comment is a perfect example of how the body of Christ works as a unit. I don’t say that all my comments are that inspired, but I do know that that one from Nehemiah 13:26 was. And yours was equally Spirit directed as it flowed seamlessly with the truth of God’s character and his heart. We must have a strong desire (emphasis on strong) for the Truth, strong enough to forsake our own pursuits, be they “moral” or “good”. Strong enough to leave friends, family, political or religious affiliations.
Intermarrying with dead works will be the death of spiritual life. We have a covenant with God in Christ; not a covenant with good works, be it circumcision or a passion for “good principles to live by”. Glenn Beck is “law” oriented, not Christ oriented.

Galatians 5

Freedom in Christ

2Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. 3Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. 4You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. 5But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the righteousness for which we hope. 6For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.

7You were running a good race. Who cut in on you and kept you from obeying the truth? 8That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you. 9″A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough.” 10I am confident in the Lord that you will take no other view. The one who is throwing you into confusion will pay the penalty, whoever he may be. 11Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished. 12As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!

I personally called Pastor Stephen Broden and left two messeages. I told him about Beck weeks before the August 28th event. I was disappointed but not surprised that he was there. It is an all too unfortunate thing that Pastors are not living up to the principles of their calling in I Timothy 3 and Titus 1. It is a shame when Pastors get into politics that they compromise their beliefs. Shame on Pastor Broden and all clergy who rally behind Beck, especially those who do not confront him face-to-face about his religious cult.

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Hebrews 1:1-2

God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world.