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vladimir

I've hesitated to do this, because I don't want to suggest in any way that article comments are being lost on purpose. Paul replied to a message from me that the Prison Planet Server sometimes loses comments unexpectedly, and I believe him. I've even suspected that a troll may have gotten access to the Comment program and uses that to delete comments that strongly defend Alex or make a serious political point, or perhaps they just delete any comment from certain posters. I find too many of the comments I read under the articles to be hateful of Alex or Paul, ill-informed, in bad taste, or just outright inane. And I'm constantly wondering where the more thoughtful and serious comments are.

So here is a place where anyone who has saved his or her comment elsewhere can post it. I would suggest that you refer to the Prison Planet article and give the URL of the page if you still have it. Many times the article runs as a non-featured item.

If this duplicates a Forum topic elsewhere, moderators please move the postings there.

This seems to be Obama & Co.’s version of the Hitler Youth, but the ideas behind the rhetoric are appealing and even socially good. High schools no longer teach civics, so young people have no idea how the government is SUPPOSED to work under the Constitution. As for mandated opportunities for charity and societal good works, these are things which should be inculcated in the nation’s youth; and, if religion has failed miserably to encourage them, a national crusade led by a representative government of the citizenry should step in to do so. Of course, the government that now styles itself as the “U.S. Government” is an alien entity which is not to be trusted by anyone in this country or abroad. This is just one more indication that a thoroughgoing popular revolution and Constitutional restoration is long overdue. I want to add that home schooling is a Constitutional right; and I've met some well-educated graduates of home schooling.

Anyone who actually read the MEIAC report, which was posted here on Prison Planet, knows that it's way out of bounds. I'd like to say I'm not surprised that Jay Nixon stood by it, but I don't understand why these gentlemen are sticking their necks out this way unless they're planning martial law for the near future. Doesn't Nixon realize how many police officers and military people have already come over to our side? Doesn't he realize that there are penalties for conspiracy to commit treason and that he'll face justice if their coup attempt fails?

The people who were supposed to watch the mad dog lied about their job. So the mad dog got loose and killed all the kids in the neighborhood. What to do?

Change the job requirements?

Send the old dog-watcher to jail and hire a more honest dog-watcher? Or...

Euthanize the mad dog?

Bill Moyers is a Left-Gatekeeper whose job is to keep the spotlight off the system by re-focussing it on the banks. The banks can't direct the military in its imperialistic adventures, they can't neglect the infrastructure, they can't allow the food supply and the water to be poisoned, they can't keep minimum wage at pennies in real dollars, they can't give tax breaks to corporations that move abroad, they can't bust unions (except banking unions). Unfortunately, there is too much of this shift-the-blame game at Prison Planet. Let's not be Right-Gatekeepers, folks!

A detailed, sourced report a lot like Alex's. But Taking Aim has a little different take and focusses on the political situation in Mexico, and whether the flu biowar attack was to help him and whether the U.S. military would invade Mexico should Calderón face a full insurrection. Not about secret pig farms or drug cartels.

American capitalism nearly gone? Hardly! The final stage of capitalism is the triumph of the financial sector over the industrial sector. Financial capital is ALREADY running most of US industry; and it's now setting itself up to call all the shots. If you hear of a CEO running a particular corporation, you can be sure that the governing board of directors is run directly now by a consortium of bankers. Many Marxists say that the political system natural to triumphant financial capitalism is FASCISM, but more accurately this should be called "corporatism".

As for Marxism, it's not a SYSTEM: it's the most sophisticated analysis of capitalism yet devised.

American capitalism nearly gone? Hardly! The final stage of capitalism is the triumph of the financial sector over the industrial sector. Financial capital is ALREADY running most of US industry; and it's now setting itself up to call all the shots. If you hear of a CEO running a particular corporation, you can be sure that the governing board of directors is run directly now by a consortium of bankers. Many Marxists say that the political system natural to triumphant financial capitalism is FASCISM, but more accurately this should be called "corporatism".

As for Marxism, it's not a SYSTEM: it's the most sophisticated analysis of capitalism yet devised.

You have a good idea here vlad, that wordpress crap is total garbage, frustratingly looney-censored unmoderated and with no membership control the comments are 75% totally nonsense, irrelevant, idiotic or unreadable.

Consider this typical example:

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If all you guys think Obama is a puppit. Your wrong and shall answer to the all mighty New World Order and the great world of comunisim. 911 was not an inside job. even tho i could use an inside job cause im horny. not that kind of inside job, im talking about raw dog sexytime. may the south rise again! We love you bush! time for me to rub my puss crazy style and scrub my taint!

Now you probably would have spent 15 minutes thinking about what you wanted to say and typing, spell checking and rereading it then the f**king garbage Wordpress would pretend it accepted the comment and then read "call the shots" and deleted it.

I simply don;t and won't waste my time with it anymore half the messages get deleted for no valid reason whatsoever.

I believe only Prison Planet Forumorum members should be allowed to comment there and agree we really need to post in here to comment on anything or rationally discuss any article without NWO Cointelpro shills poisoning the comments.

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vladimir

From the article: "By 1795 the slaughter carried out by the broad-minded progressives in Paris had become so intense that Gracchus Babeuf (who, ironically enough, was a proto-Communist in his outlook and tactics) accused the government of “turning the scythe of death” against the Vendeans, in the pursuit of “populicidal” objectives."

Gracchus Babeuf represented the last breath of the true Great French Revolution, and his Conspiracy of Equals was a coalition of Radicals and Conservatives (literally, Left and Right, reflecting their seating in the revolutionary General Assembly). He was guillotined, but his ideas were smuggled out of France by a nephew of Michelangelo Buonarotti (the painter of the Cistine Chapel) and became the basis for European proletarian socialism. Not at all ironic that he opposed the "turning of the scythe of death" against (more correctly, the supporters of) the Vendeans, that is, the Conservatives of the "Mountain" (another term referring to their seating in the Assembly, here because their numbers were large). Interesting word, "populicidal" (literally, "rel. to the murder of the People") since the murder of the Revolution, which represented the WILL of the (common) People, was the objective of the Directorate in so wielding the guillotine in this counter-revolutionary (or "Buonapartist", as it came to be called) phase of French history. This term "Buonapartist" is equivalent to George Washington's term "Caesarist", and incidentally gave George Orwell the name for his pig dictator in his book 1984.

French revolutionary history originated the terms "Left" and "Right", and this history served as the starting point for any serious political discussion for 200 years. My own website (still in its infancy) hopes to put forth at least some of Gracchus Babeuf's ideas as the model for a coalition of Left and Right against the current reign of tyranny. Alex Jones' concept of the "false Left-Right paradigm" was the inspiration for my efforts.

Point out racism in a liberal and he becomes more racist. Point out racism in a conservative and he becomes less racist. At least this is the case at present, and I hope the trend continues. Those of us who grew up in the U.S. were indoctrinated with racism from an early age. Confessing to lingering racism is the first step to recovery.

That said, to use the word "socialism" as if it were an epithet is like using the word "Christian" as if the Inquisition and the Crusades defined what a Christian is. There are many kinds of socialists just as there are many kinds of Christians. Both words can be used to cover infamy. The word "Christian" has been used to do so far more than the word "socialist" for anyone who knows world history.

"tocorrectonething" had the right idea in his or her comment to the article.August 11th, 2009 at 1:11 pm "Obama = H*O*U*S*E – S*O*C*I*A*L*I*S*T!!!"

Another word for "House Socialist" is "Social Democrat" (fitting for Bernie Sanders), and another which fits Barack Obama more closely is "National Socialist", i.e. Nazi.

I don't agree with everything Webster G Tarpley says, but as for the need for single-payer healthcare I think he has a better slant. The Obama-Emanuel plan is a fraud and bears very little relationship to the national-health programs in Europe, although it seems that now the U.K. is being pushed in the direction of a triage plan that will cut out the chronically ill and the elderly (more "Americanisation").

Based merely on the illness you see everywhere nowadays which the U.S. Government has allowed agribusiness, the private water companies, and the pharmaceutical corporations to reek on us with the GMO frankenfood, the heavy metals and drugs in the water, and the untested drugs; based merely on that, the Government owes us a single-payer, national-health plan. Who will pay for it?, you ask; the Government will take the money out of our own pockets. Well, is this any different than the trillions the Government takes from us to fund the central banks or pay for its colonial empire abroad? How about using the IRS to fund something for us for a change! And let's insist they cut out all the exemptions for the superrich, who pay less taxes now than ordinary working people.

vladimir

I heard you on refeed talking with Bob Chapman about the Obama-worship song that the school kids were being taught. I saw the video of this yesterday.

I think you and Bob are going a little overboard about this song. The Battle Hymn of the Republic was a song originally written during the Civil War to honor John Brown. After the war, the words were changed to honor Abraham Lincoln. People were a lot more religious then, yet they never complained that the song was replacing Jesus with John Brown or Abraham Lincoln. By the way, I've been part of counterdemonstrations at local Klan rallies, and at one of these I found it highly comical that the Ku Klux Klan was using The Battle Hymn of the Republic as a marching song.

I remember reading books glorifying Abraham Lincoln when I was a child, although I grew up in the deep South and my grandmother was a direct descendent of Nathan Bedford Forrest. My greatgrandmother reviled Abraham Lincoln. I also grew up worshipping the American flag, after the Stars and Bars went out of favor in the South. I remember when white folks in the South booed and heckled the American flag and cheered the Confederate battle flag at high-school football games. And yet, in white Southern families that were a bit more liberal, Abraham Lincoln had a place of reverence next to Jesus. In my own family, incidentally, I've sometimes seriously doubted whether Nathan Bedford Forrest even took a second place to Jesus.

Usually I'm 100% with you about the anxieties you express, Alex. And I agree 100% that innocent young children should be protected from evil (actually, I'd rather call it psychopathic despotism). However, I've listened to the children's Obama song a few times and seen the video. I think the words of the song are commendable: they talk about people living together in peace despite their ethnic and social differences, and giving everyone an equal chance. There's nothing wrong with the actual words of the song. For that matter, there's nothing wrong with a lot of Barack Obama's rhetoric - which is why he has a lot of people so deceived, unfortunately. You need to separate the rhetoric of Obama from what his actual agenda is. A lot of people are still deluded by his honeyed words. Frankly, I think I'd consider him a pompous ass even if I thought he was an all-around good guy on the issues.

This hasn't anything to do with "race" (a highly dubious term which has no scientific value and which I'd prefer to replace with the term "ethnicity"). I've talked with many African-Americans who are more onto what Obama is really about than most white folks. People of color have a nose for Uncle Toms. But some people disregard everything else but skin color, and I get the impression that the teacher in the video is one of those - if she were white, she'd probably be in the KKK right now. Only a few years ago I might have said "the Republican Party", but things are changing here in the South and there's a contest between the Republicans and the Democrats over who can field a bigger covert racist.

Keep hitting hard to bring down Obama, but leave the anti-racism alone! We can do a better job promoting it than Obama and the Democratic Party, for that matter, because with us it doesn't stem from alterior motives. And we can't get enough of it in this racist country that drips with Native American blood and the anguished tears of little children of color.

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vladimir

No one should be forced by the courts to read a particular author's writings. But, for your information, Alfred Adler was not a communist. At least, he was not the member of any communist party and did not participate in the politics of any communist group. His wife was a socialist in her thinking, and Adler himself contributed to socialist periodicals; but he did not express any opinion on the politics of the communist movement. Adler broke with Freud over Freud's authoritarian and pessimistic psychological views. A lot of psychologists and fiction writers have been influenced by Marx's views because of his insights into social alienation. The list would fill many pages on this Forum. You can read an autobiography of Adler at http://www.marxists.org/glossary/people/a/d.htm#adler-alfred