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Busy here today! 1880's just arrived. The size 34/34 measures 16.5" across the waist with Back Rise of 17" - these are too small for me. The 36/34 measure 17 3/4" waist and are similar in all other aspects - these fit better. The seat is noticeable - true anti-fit. I didn't like it at first - less noticeable if you look at the side with the rear pocket, more noticeable when you look at the side sans-pocket. I would expect with some shrinkage the seat will improve. The denim is similar to the 1915s but not as dark, I'd like to see it in natural daylight and will take some comparison photos tomorrow. Unlike the 1915s it has generous pocket bags. Like the Mirror Jeans, it has limited edition number on the inside: XXX/300. The construction is interesting, the small pleats at the back and the way the seams are finished on the inside. I'm not a fan of the patch from this period but it's actually been nicely done and it sits discretely under the cinch. Anyway just initial thoughts, I'll probably be keeping them. There are a few pairs left on the UK website - mine worked out £126 after adding a discount code. Not sure how they got away with selling them for $600 retail in the US? Perhaps I have that wrong?

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No you are right, they sold them for that much in the beginnng but now they are dirty cheap. I bought a size 34 during Black Friday. If I would have known they are 50% off later on, I would have waited...

The XL is a "very relaxed" fit on me (ended up with a larger chest measurement than almost all of my jackets) that will eventually shrink to a "quite relaxed" fit over the years. I break my shrink to fits in extensively before ever getting them wet, and I usually wash cold and air dry. Barring accident, it will likely be years before it gets its first submergence in water. I will do it's first wash cold to see what happens. If I want more shrinkage, the next wash will be hot. That said, I very much like the way it fits as is. It's a fine fit for a jumper-style shirt.

It did end up being larger than I expected, and I wouldn't mind owning the large too. I wanted to get the large in addition, but I restrained myself. The price was just under $100 U.S. fot the XL. When it went down to $85, I said screw it and tried to order a L too. The Website showed it as in stock, and let me add it to the cart. But as soon as it was there, a note appeared beside it, saying to remove it from the cart because it was out of stock.

I'm happy with the XL. I am just being greedy in wanting the same design with two different fits (just like I have with my 1880's, 1915's, and 1955's).

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I sized for a "very relaxed" fit that will eventually shrink to a "quite relaxed" fit over the years. I break my shrink to fits in extensively before ever getting them wet, and I usually wash cold and air dry. Barring accident, it will likely be years before it gets its first submergence in water.

I wanted to get the large too, but I restrained myself. The price was just under $100 U.S.

You did state you paid $133 on the previous page, how did the price change to under $100?

Looking at the fabric I'd be surprised if it shrinks a whole size if it was cold washed. The label on inside states 5% shrinkage.

Not sure how you can wear it for years without washing it? It's going to get a bit whiffy.

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Forgive me in advance for this slightly off-topic post, but I wanted to let you guys know that the smaller sizes of 3sixteen's CS-100x are on sale.

I only bring it up because (and correct me if I'm wrong) it seems like while the '47 501 may have been historically slimmer than the other models over the years, LVC really over-emphasized the slimness of the cut in the reproduction. I just wanted to let you know that the CS-100x is supposedly based on the 1947 501 and is much much more antifit. I wear a 31 in 501s and a 28 in these. I know it ain't cone and it ain't unsanforized and that there are a bunch of other brands who do the antifit thing, but if you wanted to check these out and are on the smaller side, these are $150!

You did state you paid $133 on the previous page, how did the price change to under $100?

Looking at the fabric I'd be surprised if it shrinks a whole size if it was cold washed. The label on inside states 5% shrinkage.

Not sure how you can wear it for years without washing it? It's going to get a bit whiffy.

You're right. When I wrote my last post to you, I was calculating based off of a $140 starting point, minus the discounts. You are quite correct that the thing actually did cost more. I think it was actually $180 or $190 to start, minus the 30%. It was a couple other items that I ordered that were $140 before applying the sale.

It isn't a tight fitting shirt, and it will always be worn with an undershirt (as I wear all my button shirts). I do a degree of manual labor most days at work, and it does get hot here. But my sweat is not particularly potent, and I wouldn't be wearing the Sunset Shirt in hot weather anyhow. My denim shirts that are much tighter fitting and made of heavier fabric take many months of actual wear to get even a hint of an armpit odor.

And when I said I probably wouldn't wash it for years, I didn't mean years of actual wear—just calendar years, being worn sporadically. I usually decide it's time to wash a denim shirt after three to six months of actual wear. I don't decide based on a certain number of days, though. I wash it when it needs it. Considering that I will wear one of my denim shirts at most 30 days out of a year (if it's one of my favorites), I can't see this thing needing a wash until it's at least two years old, and probably three.

Curious what impact it will have positioning/messaging-wise, whether they will try to emulate/reproduce US Cone-style denim and the iterations through the years. For example, the different properties from say '76/'78, '66, '47 etc., all of which were pretty specific. And then how do they tell/change the story? First Levi's closed their factories. Now they've lost their marquee fabric. What will the brand mean in light of the underpinnings of the "heritage" approach that was so integral to the brand? Or, being the tiny niche market that it is in the first place, is this only important to older buyers (like me) who grew up, lived in, and old with them? As I said, I'm curious to see where they go from here.

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Curious what impact it will have positioning/messaging-wise, whether they will try to emulate/reproduce US Cone-style denim and the iterations through the years. For example, the different properties from say '76/'78, '66, '47 etc., all of which were pretty specific. And then how do they tell/change the story? First Levi's closed their factories. Now they've lost their marquee fabric. What will the brand mean in light of the underpinnings of the "heritage" approach that was so integral to the brand? Or, being the tiny niche market that it is in the first place, is this only important to older buyers (like me) who grew up, lived in, and old with them? As I said, I'm curious to see where they go from here.

My understanding is that there's been a prospect of Cone closing for the last 15 years, and during that time they've had a backup arranged for every single fabric. They will still commission each one separately with different yarns.

Yes, it does undermine a good part of the heritage of the brand. I know plenty of people there who really regret the closure of Valencia St by Philp Marineau (who then trousered a multimillion dollar bonus).

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Curious what impact it will have positioning/messaging-wise, whether they will try to emulate/reproduce US Cone-style denim and the iterations through the years. For example, the different properties from say '76/'78, '66, '47 etc., all of which were pretty specific. And then how do they tell/change the story? First Levi's closed their factories. Now they've lost their marquee fabric. What will the brand mean in light of the underpinnings of the "heritage" approach that was so integral to the brand? Or, being the tiny niche market that it is in the first place, is this only important to older buyers (like me) who grew up, lived in, and old with them? As I said, I'm curious to see where they go from here.

My understanding is that there's been a prospect of Cone closing for the last 15 years, and during that time they've had a backup arranged for every single fabric. They will still commission each one separately with different yarns.

Yes, it does undermine a good part of the heritage of the brand. I know plenty of people there who really regret the closure of Valencia St by Philp Marineau (who then trousered a multimillion dollar bonus).

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Just returned a size M sack coat from last season, was 90€ on Levis.com after sale and additional coupon - was too big and now size s is sold out, bummer because for the price I quite liked the jacket. I attempted an exchange, maybe I'm lucky and someone returned a size s.

I was actually going to reply to that poster to be very leery of the size charts from a store called Union Made. Some of those charts are wacky, nd obviously dead wrong...and they're the ones that seem to pop up most in Web searches.

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Hi All,
see you again on 2020 and I wish you all happy new year. this time I need your opinion about Levi's BIG E that I found at flea market few days ago. I found an old Levi's vest (its a jacket once before), this vest do not have a cinch back, I also cannot see the number on the back of button, tag was unavailable. only rivets, red tab and selvedge that I can see clearly. here's I send you the details. Hopefully someone here can give me an opinion regarding this Levi's. Any opinions are welcome, I do appreciated.
please let me know.

Brand new, original tags still attached. All pictures taken by me.
This collection is sold out everywhereRetailed for $228.00 USDWrite-up on the collection by Levi's here: https://www.levi.com/US/en_US/blog/article/levis-made-crafted-x-poggytheman/Waist: 31"Inseam: 34"Thigh: 11"Rise: 11.5"Taper: 6.5"

I checked the Encyclopedia thread and only one Levi's link didn't give a 404 error, so here goes nothing. I should add that a lot of the center patch jeans actually aren't vintage (at least the ones I'm looking for) and date back to around 2006. I've talked with Levi's support a handful of times and got nothing out of it. I'm trying to figure out what all the center patch pairs are. I know I haven't quite figured them all out, but I've found a few, though they seem very hard to come by, and obviously aren't currently in production. I'd really like to find a pair with the white "Quality Never Goes Out of Style" center patch. Something tells me I don't have the ideal wording, and if I knew exactly what to type, I could probably find a plethora of those jeans. When I google 519's, I have to block the words extreme or skinny (add a - in front of whatever word you don't want to see in the results) or I get mostly brand new pairs of 519's. Here's what I know so far:

This pair, which can be seen clearly in the first photo and on this store page (which has other photos of the same pair) appears to be 519 slim fit. However, they don't seem to be the normal 519 slim fit. One site I looked at called them "519 slim fit side adjusters". I have looked extensively over the past couple of weeks and was lucky to find that clear photo, as well as that store listing and one Ebay listing which sold a while back. On a side note, I found that 511 skinny leg (or a version, rather) seems to look the same, with the centered white patch and waist adjusters, but they too are hard to find. The 511's and 519's have a white patch that says, "Quality Never Goes Out of Style". There may be others as well.
http://www.enmodesenior.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Jean-Levis-avec-martingale-sur-le-côté.jpg
https://www.plintsale.top/jeans-c-1_105_1144/levis-519-slim-fit-jeans-blue-w33-l34-mens-stretch-denim-tall-long-p-20991.html

You may recognize these from the Moonbathing ads. They are part of the "Two Horse Brand" collection, which have a yellow and white patch and say "Two Horse Brand" on the patch. 506 and 511 look identical, while 509 has the addition of a cinch back. There might be other fit numbers I'm missing.
http://josephbennett.co.uk/20790/0x500/thumb10.jpg - Moonbathing ad
https://www.ebay.com/itm/362327161621 - 511 Slim Fit
https://www.ebay.com/itm/EX-CON-Merns-Designer-LEVIS-506-Standard-30x34-Dark-Indigo-100-Cotton-Jeans/362281900617?hash=item5459af1a49%3Ag%3A~EEAAOSw-btavA5H&_sacat=0&_nkw=levi's+506+standard&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_TitleDesc=0 - 506 Standard
https://www.ebay.com/itm/LEVIS-506-Standard-Straight-Blue-men-Jeans-Size-30-32/263825162810?hash=item3d6d34823a%3Ag%3AsU4AAOSwBdhbULZT&_sacat=0&_nkw=levi's+506+standard&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_TitleDesc=0 - Alternate 506 Standard?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mens-Levis-509-Comfort-Fit-Jeans-W30-L31-Blue-Size-30R-Levi-Strauss-Cinchback/192336081751?hash=item2cc81fb357%3Ag%3AgJMAAOSw~vpZ5cU8&_sacat=0&_nkw=levi's+509+comfort+fit&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313 - 509 Comfort Fit
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-MENS-LEVI-STRAUSS-TWO-HORSE-BRAND-CLASSIC-STYLE-FIT-JEANS-SIZE-32-34/273314607508?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649 Not sure what this pair is, but it has a sort of curved yoke instead of a straight one, and the arcuates are slanted.

Levi's Engineered has some center patch jeans as well, though I'm really trying to find more of the white patch pairs.

Hello - I have a larger personal collection of vintage workwear. Lee Hair-on-hide, a pair of 1947 Wranglers, Stifel wabash chore jacket and matching overalls, are some of the collection's highlights. Most are larger size as they had to fit me (of course) - I am a large shirt (US), and most pants are a 32 waist 32 inseam or larger. Some really great stuff. Levis jackets from each era, Early Lee and Wrangler jackets. Chore jackets galore. Racing tees from the 60's. Boss Of The Road vintage "no belt loop jeans" as well as the same in a Boss of the Road khaki (with wax marks from walking through the mine!). I just don't wear this anymore. I live in Los Angeles. Some of the stuff was even featured in SUPERTALK magazine a few years back. The first Levi denim banner as well as another early one. Too much stuff! Selling as a collection or in piece.
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