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Interesting Molyneux video (below), mercifully shorter at 10m than his usual uploads - the comments thread is even more interesting.

I think my first and biggest personal RP (of many) was witnessing the MSM in lock-step shamelessly lying to support the Nato war on Yugoslavia, particularly in Kosovo. It was then that I realised that possibly everything I "knew" was wrong. Leading me down a rabbit hole from which I am yet to emerge.

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There must be a list as long as your arm and that wouldn't even begin to describe the list as it's in virtually everything they do.

Probably not the biggest by a long chalk but four biggies in recent times are Brown's no more house price boom and bust, Blair on Iraq and on immigration numbers, Cameron's tens of thousands and Clegg's tuition fees.

Then there's pension thievery and frauds. The lies surrounding the Common Market vote and the sovereignty issue must be pretty high in the list.

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Interesting Molyneux video (below), mercifully shorter at 10m than his usual uploads - the comments thread is even more interesting.

I think my first and biggest personal RP (of many) was witnessing the MSM in lock-step shamelessly lying to support the Nato war on Yugoslavia, particularly in Kosovo. It was then that I realised that possibly everything I "knew" was wrong. Leading me down a rabbit hole from which I am yet to emerge.

The breakup of Yugoslavia, and in particular the way NATO supported the secession of Kosovo which had no justification in international law, was a massive red flag. The willingness to target civilian infrastructure to achieve that end was another. When something similar happened again in the Iraq War albeit this time without NATO you could clearly see that these events were not policy aberrations but part of a bigger strategy. The recent sanctions against Russia show this game is still afoot. Sadly this madness is ultimately going to end in a major war and possibly a nuclear one. This is going to come as a major surprise to many of the SJWs out there etc with their obession with relative trivialities who don't seem to have the slightest inkling they are ultimately going in to bat for Big Brother and the military industry complex.

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I was genuinely baffled as to why they actively wanted to wreck the country they were supposed to be looking after.

Then I heard about no-borders globalisation and its underlying aim to destroy nation states and I understood why they were doing it: they were not trying to look after the British people, they were trying to destroy them whilst pretending otherwise.

That was it for me with the establishment parties as the Liberals are as bad and the Conservatives not much better. Up to that point I had thought that the choice between these three parties was both real and sufficient. It isn't.

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I was genuinely baffled as to why they actively wanted to wreck the country they were supposed to be looking after.

Then I heard about no-borders globalisation and its underlying aim to destroy nation states and I understood why they were doing it: they were not trying to look after the British people, they were trying to destroy them whilst pretending otherwise.

That was it for me with the establishment parties as the Liberals are as bad and the Conservatives not much better. Up to that point I had thought that the choice between these three parties was both real and sufficient. It isn't.

To quote Frank Zappa - "Politics is the comedy arm of the military industrial complex". It is designed to distract you from fundamental choices not to make them.

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When a supposedly socialist governrnment were so keen on kicking shit out of a load of poor people in regimes in which we had no business. Hey that's my tax bill paying for that "humanitarian" work....

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The fact that the UK school system had been infiltrated by militant Islamists in order to fill childrens heads with shit was bad enough but the bungled, half-arsed cover up was what made me think there was a real problem.

The reporting- for what should be a nationwide fucking outrage- was very thin on the ground. Then it was all a hoax. Then some people had to step down (why, if it was a hoax?). The reporting after that was muddled, apologist and obfuscating. There has, as yet, not been a definative explanation of what went on there and it pisses me off a treat, the 'nothing to see here!' behaviour of the MSM immediately made me think we have a serious problem on our hands.

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For me I think Blair and the US on Iraq, followed by the BoE and consecutive UK governments denial of a house price bubble whilst busily inflating debts and prices as far as possible.

That about sums up my position to but 9.11 was the real game changer though ,but was told by someone that served in Kosovo the same as what the op was alluding to ....basically it was criminal and politically driven but was still naive

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That about sums up my position to but 9.11 was the real game changer though ,but was told by someone that served in Kosovo the same as what the op was alluding to ....basically it was criminal and politically driven but was still naive

We have all been had! A self serving plutocracy has helped themselves again.