re: I am against not just gay marriage but homosexuality being mainstream (Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:13 pm to LSUGrrrl)

quote:And what dangers do gay coupes offer to children?

Would depend on the individual gay couple, I believe in scrutiny of all that are given children by the state, even if the state has no control over morons procreating?

quote:As to the "unwanted" kids... US adoption laws are a major contributor to why Americans adopt internationally.

I've done work with domestic and international adoptions, and international are far more complex, I have no idea what state laws you are complaining about. It is not complex in LA. If you don't think a Russian, chinese or romanian babies are more desirable than 90% of what is available in the US I think you are unaware of the market.

re: I am against not just gay marriage but homosexuality being mainstream (Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:30 pm to CarrolltonTiger)

quote:Would depend on the individual gay couple, I believe in scrutiny of all that are given children by the state, even if the state has no control over morons procreating?

I agree with this. My argument, though poorly worded, was that no one should be disqualified from adopting simply bc of sexual preference. I believe gay couples should be subject to the same scrutiny as hetero couples.

quote:I've done work with domestic and international adoptions, and international are far more complex, I have no idea what state laws you are complaining about. It is not complex in LA. If you don't think a Russian, chinese or romanian babies are more desirable than 90% of what is available in the US I think you are unaware of the market.

I work with couples every day that are currently in the process of choosing adoption or are in the process of adoption. I adopted from Russia in 2007 after carefully considering all our options. For clarification, my husband & are we're in the "golden zone" (no kids, early 30's, good income, no physical, mental or criminal concerns, etc)

Many couples choose to adopt internationally bc they desire a "sure thing." There is a lot of concern about birth parents changing their minds during or after the adoption is completed. There is also a discomfort with the varying degrees of openness in Us adoptions. Many couples are ok with interaction with birth parents after the child is 18, but not ok with yearly letters, pics, etc during the child's life up to 18.

Finally, there are concerns with adopting kids from the foster care system. By the time the children are adopted, many have been flagged into the system for one reason or another. While state resources are often needed and helpful for a variety of issues a child may have, it is often more desirable to treat those issues privately with personal money rather than have the child labeled & tracked.

We could probably argue these issues much, much further. However, my main question reworded for further clarification is, "Why would you prevent any couple from adopting simply because of their sexual orientation?"

re: I am against not just gay marriage but homosexuality being mainstream (Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:33 pm to Joshjrn)

It seems logical that polygamy would be natural. I'm sure it was common way back in the day, before governments.

There's an evolutionary advantage there. A strong male can mate with multiple women at a time, while women are limited to mating with 1 man at a time. Mediocre and weak men would be less likely to reproduce.

re: I am against not just gay marriage but homosexuality being mainstream (Posted on 3/29/13 at 11:40 pm to Asgard Device)

Historically, polygamy is favored in times of turmoil, such as war, famine, etc., for precisely the reason you outlined. When you need to repopulate, having unwed women, males primarily being the casualties of war, is not ideal.

re: I am against not just gay marriage but homosexuality being mainstream (Posted on 3/30/13 at 8:47 am to Asgard Device)

quote:You're saying the government will force a belief system upon you. So, wouldn't the problem resolve itself when you change your beliefs to coincide with whatever the law of the land is? You're going to be pro-gay marriage (or possibly gay?) when that happens.

That is stupid. If this country passes a law, I follow it. I don't necessarily have to believe in it.