Windows 10 Build 10586: ‘gold disk’ release for the big Fall Update?

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With less than a week to go until the speculated November 10 release day for Windows 10 (codename) Threshold 2, Microsoft has released build 10586 to participants in the Windows Insider Program. I updated my Dell Venue 8 Pro and noticed that there isn’t a build number displayed in the lower right corner of the desktop as there was for previous preview builds. It looks like build 10586 may be released as what will be officially called the Windows 10 Fall Update. This will be the first major update since Windows 10 launched on July 29.

If you haven’t been following Microsoft’s Windows Experience Blog, here’s a summary of what it has announced as notable changes or new features since build 10547 on September 18:

This latest build release does not add any new features. However, it provides fixes to a number of annoying issues:

Surface Pro 3 owners can use the Power button to sleep the PC instead of shutting it down;

The random flashing of a disksnapshot.exe command prompt was fixed. I saw this for the last time during the upgrade to build 10586!

Small form-factor devices, like the Dell Venue 8 Pro, that boot with rotation or virtual mode screen size set larger than the physical screen size should no longer experience a blue screen on upgrade. I’m one of the Windows Insiders who uses a Dell Venue 8 Pro as my text PC, so this one is much appreciated;

Apps and games should download from the Store more reliably. This remains to be seen. I did not see any Windows Store App updates available immediately after upgrading.

The only oddity I’ve noticed in the short time I’ve have to test build 10586 is that after switching from Tablet mode to Desktop mode and then back again, all the Start Menu tiles that had a blue background changed to a light gray background. However, that doesn’t seem like a showstopper bug, and it wouldn’t be surprising to see this build released shortly as the Fall Update.

I know this is asking a lot but it would be really nice if you could play Xbox One games on PC.

volkerball85

As close as the XBONE has come to the PC platform itself from a hardware/software perspective, I think the best we can expect from MS is the ability to stream XBO games to our desktops. Aside from the surprising amount of work involved porting XBO games to PC, Microsoft would never allow people to play games on their PC that they’d otherwise have to buy a console for. That’s why they stopped making Halo for PC after part 2. :(

Asmodai

As long as we’re talking fantasy land it would be nice if we could play 360 games on our PC as well. I mean they wrote the 360 -> x86 emulator for the Xbox One, that’s the hard part, porting it to a PC running Win10 should be easy in comparison. Neither is likely to happen though. MS doesn’t care about game(r)s on Windows (unless it’s an Xbox game you’re just streaming there).

Yeah, that’s what I was referring to. My point is I’ll believe it when I see it.

jdwii

I think what needs to happen is we need a head guy for the PC gaming division at Microsoft not spencer

Rick L Sadler

They’re called emulators. Not sure if there’s one for 360 yet, but there’s one for PS2 and Wii

Asmodai

Really? “emulators” you say? We’re talking about actual support from the platform holder not hacked together community emulators Capt. Obvious.

Erik Sørensen

Why do you want to play Xbox games on your PC? I don’t get it. You spend money on a console and then you want to play on a computer? Either you play games on PC or Consoles….you can’t have it both ways. I know MS is trying to wipe PC gaming by allowing to stream your Xbox games to PC and by that trying to boost the sale on Xbox consoles. A lot is going on behind the scene, but MS will fail if they think they can kill PC gaming. Latest failure is the upcoming sequel of Tomb Raider, (Rise Of Tomb Raider) exclusively on Xbox. That has changed, and now the game is coming to PC platform a month after the release to Xbox. And 1 year later to PS4. So MS has changed their strategy to fight PS4 instead. And this “war” between the 2 major consoles will eventually be a failure, hurting the console platform. A win win situation for PC gaming.

Kwuarter

That was the point. It’d be awesome to play games on PC that uses Xbox One’s platform so it wouldn’t have to played on oldhat hardware.

Erik Sørensen

Just buy some new hardware then. And that’s just the point. People don’t want to spend money on new hardware. So you think you can get it for free. It doesn’t work that way. Sorry.

Kwuarter

You are correct. yet again, It was just a thought.

Firuz Khandakar

What if I’m a PC gamer and want to play Forza? I don’t want to buy a new XBO so that means I’m fucked. There are others like this also.

Daniel Glass

I wouldn’t mind buying an XB1 if there were more than, well, one game I had to buy it to play.

DiBree

Oh come one people… are you serious?
First the xbone is not emulating the 360… Thats why you have a limited set of games…
Secound..? Every one is a programmer here? I guess not… Porting a title is more difficult and complicated than you can imagine. And guess fkn what! Someone needs to do it… Manually! And guess the other thing! They must get fkn paid for it… Plus it takes time…
Different CPUs, GPUs, RAMs… motherboards.. and the list goes on..
See how they ported Arkham Knight…

Greigio76

I have a Dell Venue 8 Pro. There’s no fix to the Start Menu that doesn’t spread out the Tiles to the entire screen in Tablet mode. With my PC, I can stretch out the Start Menu to show full screen of tiles with my mouse. There is no counterpart if you’re using the touch screen as input.

Tablet mode is not comparable to the Desktop experience. It is so inadequate and barely usable.

David T-Rex

You do realise that exactly how its supposed to work? Tablet mode is full screen only. That will not change and replicates Windows 8

Greigio76

It doesn’t replicate Windows 8. I just described to you that in Windows 10, tablet mode does not show a full screen of tiles. Windows 8 shows a full screen of tiles and more tiles are shown when you scroll horizontally. Windows 10 shows a column of 3 tiles that must be scrolled vertically unlike Windows 8.

jdwii

nothing i care about

xiadong1994

me too

danwat1234

I want to see more than 49 color choices for the start menu and task bar, like in Windows 7 and 8, could choose any color.

I bought a Dell Venue Pro when it was first introduced with Windows7 and returned it about 2 weeks later. It was very buggy to me and a real big annoyance was the screen sizing never adjusting properly.

So you would say the problems on the Venue Pro have been alleviated with Windows 10? I have a Surface Pro, but would also love to have a small form factor tablet like the Venue Pro.

Karen: The Venue 8 Pro shipped with Windows 8, not 7. If I recall correctly, I had some issues with drivers for the first couple of months. Personally, I’ve found every Windows touchscreen PC I have has benefited from upgrading from 8 to 10 (I was never a fan of Windows 8). If you are looking for a small Windows 10 tablet, you may want to look at newer models which may support features such as “Windows Hello”.

barcodezero

and still NO ABILITY to
-> disable automatic updates and driver updates that break the system
-> disable the built in SPYWARE and ADWARE
-> uninstall pre-installed “apps” that you don’t want or need
-> have a stable system that does not crash

no thanks, 10 is garbage, Im sticking with windows 7 while its supported the next 5 years while i transition to linux

Brian V Riley

if you use the newest version of CCleaner you can uninstall the default apps. they show up in uninstall manager

xiadong1994

Linux’s desktop crashes more often than my windows 10, so I will change to OS X :)

MarkHughes

I did the exact same for the same reasons, Took maybe an hour to get Mint on my laptop and desktop and have been 100% happy with both, I miss nothing from windows at all and I have control of my computer back.

Mike kizaberg

you can only do that on windows 10 professional and windows 10 enterprise

danwat1234

Actually you can. youtube; /watch?v=O0O55D3pE_s – just disable the Windows Update service in ‘Services’. Works even if Windows 10 home edition.
You can disable Windows Defender by booting into safe mode and renaming the executable for the program. Then the Services manager cannot launch it and so Defender cannot run. You have to do this because the services for Defender is blocked from being disabled.

Don’t know about the last 2.

Bruce Epper

Automatic updates can be “disabled” by stopping & disabling the Windows Update service although it will stop all updates including those that plug security holes.

Most “spyware & adware” can be disabled, you just need to hop all over the system to stop it, including disabling Cortana, but not all telemetry can be stopped.

I have yet to encounter a pre-installed app that could not be uninstalled. For some of them, you need to use PowerShell commands to remove them.

I have been running Win10 for more than a year on a low-power system (AMD E1 processor with 4GB RAM) and have never had a single crash. So, if you are having stability issues, is it due to you running unsupported software on it or are you doing something else to cause the crashes?

Mahmet Tokarev (Tajik Pride)

I still haven’t gotten validated for the Windows 10 update. At this point it seems like it’s never going to happen?

David T-Rex

The update will allow you to use you Win 7/8 Licence key directly instead of having to rely on the upgrade process

DrConspiracy

Since the “Preview Build” message is gone from the Desktop, one might be tempted to use the Settings App (System > About) to check the build number. It freezes if you try. Oops. (Start Task Manager to magically un-freeze it.)

FWIW, winver (which hopefully you can invoke by hitting the Windows button and typing winver) should also give you the build number.

danwat1234

or open notepad, then help -> about

Jose Salce

Besides that bug you mention on build 10586, I found that I cannot resize the Start Menu width. Even though my icons are all grouped to the left, the Start menu is two inches wider that the icons. Also if you change some icons to ‘small’ a grey box is display instead of the icon graphics (try it with Google Chrome). Inspiron 13 7347

Sak Hus

I see the update is available and start downloading and it starts but nothing happens and stuck at 0% for hours.

I’ve had that happen a number of times on various builds & on various machines. No clue what causes it, but eventually rebooting or waiting eventually seems to clear the condition and the new build installs. Frustrating, though!

Mangap

Microsoft please clean old unused code. To make it better, smaller and faster. I hear that still many old unused code left on Windows 10

danwat1234

Yeah, for instance still stuck at a 255 character file path limit even though NTFS supports thousands.

Mike kizaberg

when does this update get released worldwide?

DrSteveA

When is the OneDrive fix coming?

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