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Whether the block size should be increased to 20MB has created more controversy than any other question in Bitcoin's recent history. For some, it is an urgent and necessary step in Bitcoin's evolution. Their view is that leaving the block size at 1MB would be irresponsible inaction with potentially catastrophic consequences. Others see increasing the block size as unnecessary and a dangerous first step down a slippery slope towards a more centralized Bitcoin.
We were joined by Mike Hearn, along with Gavin Andresen the most outspoken supporter of a block size increase. He is also the creator of Bitcoin XT, a modified fork of Bitcoin Core, that may become the vehicle for the push for bigger blocks if no agreement is reached regarding Bitcoin Core. Don't miss this crucial conversation!
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- Why Bitcoin core development has become pervaded with toxic division
- What Bitcoin XT is and how it differs from Bitcoin Core
- The roadmap ahead and how a transition to BitcoinXT would occur
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Mike Hearn was at the top of his game working for Google on a high salary as a computer programmer when one day he discovered bitcoin.
Bitcoin quickly blew his mind and Mike quit his cushy job at Google to work on the bitcoin protocol. What about bitcoin demanded he work for free for 2 years on the bitcoin protocol?
Find out in this interview with one of the guys who tinkered under the hood of bitcoin as much as any other.
This interview is especially interesting because it reminds us all of the fragilty of bitcoin. Mike shares his experience working with the core development team and outlines some major hurdles that bitcoin will need to overcome in the near future.
It was an especially good reality check for me who is well and truly drinking the bitcoin cool aid. :)
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Governance and the market share of Bitcoin. It drops in a cyclical way when people become temporarily disillusioned and overwhelm other altcoins with exuberant attention they weren't really prepared for. When the spotlight shifts onto you, that's when you can't stumble. The adversarial attitude between cryptocurrencies. They all benefit from specialising to niches of trade-offs and design decisions in the ecosystem. Even failed experiments help evolution and teach us something. Being resistant to change is a differential feature, because it makes it robust against takeover. Even Bitcoin's own developers and miners can't force change from the inside. Bitcoin was designed to say 'unless everyone agrees, we're not changing a thing.' Political propaganda, economic, electrical, network-based attacks are always coming when it becomes this important to the world. "Unstoppable code" is for something that someone is trying to stop. "The only things worth printing are what somebody is trying to suppress; everything else is advertising / public relations." Silk Road, black market. PR disaster to Enterprise Ethereum Alliance, who will start saying "the technology behind Ethereum: smart contracts!" just as they did with Bitcoin. Trial by fire. Bitcoin is surviving because it can't be changed, because it is the unstoppable code.
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Keywords/phrases: Could state authorities shut down Bitcoin at any time? A state-sponsored 51% attack would be very difficult. Even though a lot of the mining is in China, it's not as concentrated as you think; some of the pools are, but the mining farms themselves are distributed in very remote rural areas. In those areas, the mining farms represent a significant percentage of the local economy. Before a hired gun gets up and tells them to shut down the mine, you first have to pay them a salary, and the Chinese government is a minority bidder because the mining farm operator is paying them much more lavishly. Don't underestimate how much resistance you're going to see in areas where this is having a significant impact on incomes in rural areas that have excess capacity electricity. The biggest threat for the Chinese government isn't Bitcoin or America, it's a billion peasants with pitchforks who have decided they've had enough. They've been trying to forestall that from happening for 25 years. Economic growth in rural areas is the goose that lays golden eggs, which benefits them too. Don't overestimate how effective a 51% attack would be either, or how long it could be sustained, and what kind of countermeasures we could put in place. This is a system that will evolve, not just sit still and take the blows. After 7 years of Bitcoin, it's not because they're not trying or that they don't want to stop it.

To understand the potential Return on Investment in Bitcoin, it’s important to take a close look at the fundamentals and market cap of all other major asset classes, that are a potential source for capital flows into Bitcoin.
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Bitcoin reaction to Mike Hearn, crypsty, and down day on wall street. Advice on steps to go from here. Research and make you own conclusions based on non-hyped news. Read more on blog post:
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Thumbnail is a picture of me and my step-son on Fury 325 at Carowinds. It is indeed fast and furious like bitcoin.

This guy is trying to bring down the the whole bitcoin community with one fatal swipe. I would understand if he would of gave up but to tell everyone that its no hope for bitcoin is a joke just like the thumbnail. A lot of people have vision and can see what bitcoin can do. To say that it has no hope because of a few factors is think very near sided bitcoin is still in its infant stage. Bitcoin gets once again nothing new :)
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On Jan 15th, Mike Hearn published this article
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Ben provides comments on Mike's resignation and the impact on the Bitcoin experiment.

* “Bitcoin is not just an open source project”
* “This is how miners buy the dip”
* BCH hash rate chart https://www.coinwarz.com/network-hashrate-charts/bitcoincash-network-hashrate-chart
* Antpool has started mining BCH https://twitter.com/BITCOlNCASH/status/899327769850466304
* Antpool launches auto-switching pool for BCH/BTC https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles/status/899667570705408000
* A bunch of miners on BCH now. 30% of total hash rate. See fork.lol
* Wang chun f2pool to switch completely to BCH - so they say https://mobile.twitter.com/f2pool_wangchun/status/899836583427407872
* Enough miners have switched from BTC to BCC that is has noticeably impacted the hash rate of BTC https://twitter.com/ryanxcharles/status/900018047477579777
* BCC is now the “longest chain” as measured by number of blocks
* Eric Lombrozo claims a “suit” is being prepared against people who signed NYA https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-segwit2x/2017-August/000259.html
* Average transaction fees on BTC have reached $7 https://twitter.com/Blockchair/status/900316190844870657
* Bitcoin users vent frustration over high fees https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-users-vent-frustration-as-hashrate-drops-50-percent-in-4-days
* Bitcoin.com has an article about how Yours is switching to Bitcoin Cash https://news.bitcoin.com/reward-based-social-media-platform-yours-switches-from-litecoin-to-bitcoin-cash/
* Blocks are arriving very slowly on BCC today (Wed Aug 23) and there will probably be another EDA soon
* Blockchain.info to support bitcoin cash https://news.bitcoin.com/blockchain-info-to-support-bitcoin-cash/
* Segwit activated http://segwit.party/
* Bitcoin fees hit an all-time high https://bitcoinfees.info/
* Tom Zander’s comment on mining BCC vs. BTC https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/6vp9g8/psa_miners_are_gaming_bitcoin_cashs_emergency/dm1zk5k/
* Antpool mines an empty block on BTC https://twitter.com/ToneVays/status/900847835347865602
* BitPay will switch from Bitcoin Core to btc1 in November https://blog.bitpay.com/segwit2x/
* Matt Corallo accuses barry silbert of a conspiracy on twitter https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/901154374319198208
* Eric Lombrozo threatens Barry Silbert https://twitter.com/eric_lombrozo/status/901173793564934144
* Jeff Garzik has had enough of core’s BS https://twitter.com/jgarzik/status/901208823528140800
* Bitcoin (BTC) fees are currently about $5 per transaction

Jeff interviews top Bitcoin expert, Roger Ver, to counter the mis-information about the death of Bitcoin that has been circulating recently. Topics include: Mike Hearn's declaration on the death of Bitcoin, this is actually another buying opportunity, it is Bitcoin's popularity that is causing the congestion, the block size situation is about to be resolved anyway, the rising fees issue is greatly exaggerated, banks charged Roger $80 to move dollars while the same transaction in BTC would be 4 cents, Mike Hearn's motivations and conflict of interest, the arguments around increasing the block size, the censorship of dissenting opinion in BTC forums, BTC is actually the opposite of dead!
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Just a few years ago Mike Hearn thought the digital currency Bitcoin could change the world. He even left his well-paid engineering job at Google to pursue working with Bitcoin full time, producing a Bitcoin mobile app that helped the technology take off. But Now Hearn is selling off all his coins and turning his back on the currency altogether. He claims that the mechanisms behind the currency are broken, and that most of Bitcoin is owned by a small, toxic pool of investors who are not interested in using the digital currency in actual transactions. At some point last year, Bitcoin owners broke into factions over how to handle changes that needed to be made to Bitcoin's code. The currency community has not been able to recover. According to Hearn, Bitcoin will never recover and "the long-term trend should probably be downwards."
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A long-time bitcoin developer who quit the project in 2016 broke his silence on Thursday, opening up on the state of the project in a lengthy reddit Q&A. There, Mike Hearn, who has since joined banking consortium startup R3, discussed a range of topics, including the bitcoin cash hard fork and the b...
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Greg was one of the key architects of the two-way peg which makes sidechains possible. He has been a Bitcoin core developer since 2011, and is one of the most active reviewers of cryptographic protocol proposals in the Bitcoin industrial ecosystem. He has contributed to many widely-used techniques in the Bitcoin space, such as the homomorphic key derivation used in BIP32 and trustless privacy-preserving techniques such as CoinJoin and blinded proof of solvency. Greg is a long-time free software developer and comes to Blockstream from Mozilla where he contributed to the Daala video compression project and coauthored the Opus audio codec (RFC 6716). He also has over 15 years of experience developing, implementing and operating embedded systems and protocols for large-scale networking. For many in the Bitcoin community, Greg is likely the person telling you that your protocol is broken and why, but he usually feels pretty bad about it.

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I had an interest in digital money for a long time. I had read a book called The Future of Money about 10 years ago — it’s not about digital money, but about creating complementary currencies. It’s all about designing currencies to achieve social ends. It was written by one of the architects of the euro.
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According to countless news sources, Bitcoin is finally dead. It all started when lead developer Mike Hearn declared that he was quitting. One of the main problems he mentioned was Bitcoin’s inability to scale, but ultimately it was the community that failed to adopt solutions. Hearn was also the man behind BitcoinXT, the fork that could have increased the Bitcoin block size.
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After helping to inaugurate CNN.com on the Internet in the early 1990s, Garzik worked at a succession of Internet startups and service providers for over two decades, all while working on open source software engineering projects. Involvement in one of the best-known open source projects, the Linux kernel, led to an extended tenure at Linux leader Red Hat, during open source's most formative years. In July 2010, while reading slashdot.org, Garzik stumbled across a post describing bitcoin. Immediately recognizing the potential of a concept previously thought impossible − decentralized digital money − he did what came naturally: developed bitcoin open source software and started micro-businesses with bitcoin at their foundation. Almost by accident, Garzik found himself square in the middle of the global, disruptive, amazing hurricane of a technological phenomenon known as bitcoin.
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Presented in Sao Paulo, this talk by Andreas focuses on the opportunity that bitcoin brings to emerging economies like Brazil.
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Today in Bitcoin and cryptocurrency news - Venezuela passes the petro into legality and gives president power over it, Tim Draper slams India, Winklevoss twins announce Gemini bringing block trading, and Standford and other top unis increase Bitcoin classes.
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Trend Micro CTO Raimund Genes asks whether Bitcoins and other cryptocurrencies will be part of the future payment ecosystem. Are we ready for it, and how are today’s criminals taking advantage of it?
Note: Trend Micro only detects Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency miners that are involved in malicious behavior. An example of this is miners that have been illicitly installed to mine coins for other parties.
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The Tron Roadmap.
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With an already existing user base of over 180 million, the opportunities for this Blockchain and cryptocurrency seem enormous. Also, it will likely not have to bootstrap and this is a deviation from the trajectory of most apps and platforms of this nature.
An outsider continues to steal the crypto spotlight.
Investors started telling CoinDesk in late December that Telegram was looking at doing some kind of ICO.
All that on top of promising super fast payments and micropayments using mobile devices, with negligible transaction fees.
With these announcements, fake sites quickly popped up claiming to be the place to buy grams. Confirming that one was fake in a tweet proved to be the closest Durov has come to a public confirmation of the crowdsale.

By mid-month, the idea that Telegram might raise its fundraising round even higher was reported by Bloomberg.
Early February.
They come up with a lockup period that releases tokens after four waiting periods, the longest one last 18 months.
Late February.
Finally, Telegram has apparently offered investors some kind of refund provision if it fails to deliver the TON platform by the end of October 2019, Business Insider reported.
The leader in blockchain news, CoinDesk is a media outlet that strives for the highest journalistic standards and abides by a strict set of editorial policies. CoinDesk is an independent operating subsidiary of Digital Currency Group, which invests in cryptocurrencies and blockchain startups.
The filing names Ton Issuer Inc. and Telegram Group Inc. along with the two individuals, Pavel Durov and Nikolai Durov, as related persons.
Apart from building on the extensive userbase Telegram has amassed, and serving as a medium of exchange with a native cryptocurrency called GRAM, the TON platform also aims to include smart contracts and decentralized services such as TON Storage and TON Proxy.
Leverage and Margin Explained.