I'm a young impressionable college student who actually hasn't been totally fooled by the Obama facade. Unfortunately I live in a state (PA) who has a crook as a governor not to mention bob casey and arlen freakin' specter as senators.

i'm more of a libertarian (classical liberal) than i am a conservative, hope that's alright :)

i love the steelers, the pens, pitt (and hate joe paterno), and yes, the pirates...:(

that sums me up pretty well! looking forward to some discussion!

Shannon

08-05-2009, 07:49 PM

You love The Steelers.:rolleyes:

You are not wanted here.

HowardRoark

08-05-2009, 08:02 PM

You love The Steelers.:rolleyes:

You are not wanted here.

Hey I loved them when Kent Graham and Kordell Stewart were battling for the starting QB position and when Amos Zereoue was the starting RB. at least i'm not a bandwagon fan.

Constitutionally Speaking

08-05-2009, 08:05 PM

I'm a young impressionable college student who actually hasn't been totally fooled by the Obama facade. Unfortunately I live in a state (PA) who has a crook as a governor not to mention bob casey and arlen freakin' specter as senators.

i'm more of a libertarian (classical liberal) than i am a conservative, hope that's alright :)

i love the steelers, the pens, pitt (and hate joe paterno), and yes, the pirates...:(

that sums me up pretty well! looking forward to some discussion!

Welcome. I find myself agreeing with libertarians on a whole lot of things except their drug policies and their isolationist foreign policy beliefs.

I can deal with the Steelers, don't understand why you hate Joe Pa, am ambivalent toward the Pirates, but as a Red Wings fan, I cannot tolerate your love of the Pens. ;)

Welcome aboard!!

Bubba Dawg

08-05-2009, 08:08 PM

Welcome.

I'm a Falcons fan but i root for the Steelers too.

Shannon

08-05-2009, 08:09 PM

Welcome.

I'm a Falcons fan but i root for the Steelers too.

You are not wanted here either.

Bubba Dawg

08-05-2009, 08:14 PM

And Howard, I like the Phillies too....uh...sorry....I meant to say The 2008 World Series Champion Philadelphia Phillies.

HowardRoark

08-05-2009, 08:19 PM

Welcome. I find myself agreeing with libertarians on a whole lot of things except their drug policies and their isolationist foreign policy beliefs.

I can deal with the Steelers, don't understand why you hate Joe Pa, am ambivalent toward the Pirates, but as a Red Wings fan, I cannot tolerate your love of the Pens. ;)

Welcome aboard!!

The drug thing I just look at the current drug war like prohibition of alcohol, neither worked, both cost far too much, and have probably created more crime than prevented. on the foreign policy, i subscribe to the jefferson belief of (i'm probably going to butcher this) "peace and trade with all, entangling alliances with none". i'm not too big on intervention mostly because i think that it creates more problems than it solves but then again i'm not always against it either but i am most definitely against some of these "trade" agreements we're in such as NAFTA and i really dislike the UN.

joe pa single handedly sabotaged the pitt-psu series.

the pens beating the wings may have been the greatest moment in my life. perhaps that means i haven't had a great life so far but that's beside the point.:D

HowardRoark

08-05-2009, 08:21 PM

And Howard, I like the Phillies too....uh...sorry....I meant to say The 2008 World Series Champion Philadelphia Phillies.

Fortunately the Pirates have been horrible long enough for any real rivalry to disappear so I'm mostly indifferent to other baseball teams:). go ahead and keep rootin for rendell's team tho ;)

BadCat

08-05-2009, 08:22 PM

I'm a young impressionable college student who actually hasn't been totally fooled by the Obama facade.

Does this mean you were partially fooled?

Bubba Dawg

08-05-2009, 08:24 PM

Fortunately the Pirates have been horrible long enough for any real rivalry to disappear so I'm mostly indifferent to other baseball teams:). go ahead and keep rootin for rendell's team tho ;)

Hey, no way you remember Willie Stargell and the We Are Family crew. I loved the Pirates back then.

Great team. Ugly ball caps. Hideous.

I'd still like to see 'em do well. That may be a while, though.

HowardRoark

08-05-2009, 08:27 PM

Does this mean you were partially fooled?

Not even a little bit. I actually kind of anticipated obama winning and then including all the old clinton folks in the administration when my liberal friends wouldn't listen. i'm encouraged that other young people seem to be waking up and realizing the government shouldn't be charged with solving society's problems. in fact i think the obama presidency can go a long way to a reawakening of belief in small government.

Shannon

08-05-2009, 08:28 PM

He's a COMMIE. End of story.

Rockntractor

08-05-2009, 08:28 PM

You love The Steelers.:rolleyes:

You are not wanted here.

I don't like the steelers. Now will you take the hex off me? You can transfer it to jade!

HowardRoark

08-05-2009, 08:30 PM

Hey, no way you remember Willie Stargell and the We Are Family crew. I loved the Pirates back then.

Great team. Ugly ball caps. Hideous.

I'd still like to see 'em do well. That may be a while, though.

Sadly i was about 4 years old the last time they had a winning season. i'd love to see pnc park (the best park in sports if you ask me) filled with some real enthusiasm. i'm glad they traded away basically the whole team this year tho. when freddy sanchez and jack wilson are two of your best players then, yeah, you need to start over from scratch.

i'd say give it 2 more years and they should be alright.

Shannon

08-05-2009, 08:31 PM

I don't like the steelers. Now will you take the hex off me? You can transfer it to jade!

No.

Bubba Dawg

08-05-2009, 08:31 PM

I don't like the steelers. Now will you take the hex off me? You can transfer it to jade!

I think the hex is gonna stay until there's a Blue Moon.

If you're from Minnesota do you like the Vikings?

HowardRoark

08-05-2009, 08:32 PM

He's a COMMIE. End of story.

preachin' to the choir. the whole save-the-environment and take-the-risk-out-of-economic-decisions and everyone-should-have-healthcare are all just nice tidy ways of consolidating government control over the private sector.

Shannon

08-05-2009, 08:36 PM

preachin' to the choir. the whole save-the-environment and take-the-risk-out-of-economic-decisions and everyone-should-have-healthcare are all just nice tidy ways of consolidating government control over the private sector.

Let's try this again...you are a yankee. That makes you a commie.

Shut up, Philly, JB etc.

BadCat

08-05-2009, 08:39 PM

Let's try this again...you are a yankee. That makes you a commie.

Shut up, Philly, JB etc.

All of them will be retiring in your neighborhood in the near future.

Bubba Dawg

08-05-2009, 08:39 PM

Howard, she calls me a commie and I scored 99% on the Dixie test.

Don't worry.

HowardRoark

08-05-2009, 08:39 PM

I support secession :)

HowardRoark

08-05-2009, 08:40 PM

Howard, she calls me a commie and I scored 99% on the Dixie test.

Don't worry.

All it takes is that 1% of yankee to taint your blood eh?;)

Bubba Dawg

08-05-2009, 08:43 PM

All it takes is that 1% of yankee to taint your blood eh?;)

Well, it's more like my enjoyment of soccer and cycle racing in France that she objects too.

That and my support of The Philadelphia Phillies 2008 World Series Champs.

Shannon

08-05-2009, 08:49 PM

I'm never speaking to you again.

COMMIE!

PoliCon

08-06-2009, 02:11 AM

I'm a young impressionable college student who actually hasn't been totally fooled by the Obama facade. Unfortunately I live in a state (PA) who has a crook as a governor not to mention bob casey and arlen freakin' specter as senators.

i'm more of a libertarian (classical liberal) than i am a conservative, hope that's alright

i love the steelers, the pens, pitt (and hate joe paterno), and yes, the pirates...

that sums me up pretty well! looking forward to some discussion!Welcome. I'm from Pittsburgh myself. :) Beware the rabid buzzards fan Lars. He likes to talk smack on the steelers - and the penguins. I got the last laugh though. BOTH times. :cool:

You love The Steelers.:rolleyes:

You are not wanted here.Don't pay attention to the queen of mean. She's grows on you if you let her. . . . like mold will if you let it . . . .

Gingersnap

08-07-2009, 08:04 PM

i'm more of a libertarian (classical liberal) than i am a conservative, hope that's alright :)