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Dang Emeline, it was bad enough to hear NZ is in drought too, but for it to also not have bees as usual is really disturbing. It's probably from reading 'On the Beach', but I always think of NZ as the last holdout for normal. Not no mo', shit.

Agree with above comments about shitting ones pants when first reading latoc. I had heard Heinberg give a talk about the same time. He's still talking. Matt not so much, heh.

I don't shit my pants anymore. The shit is happening right outside. Mid Feb. here in upstate California and it is 78 degrees, the fruit trees are blooming, at least four weeks early, and fourth year of low water in the reservoirs. The east drowns in snow and we dry up in the west. Almost no snow in the mountains. There is enough water in the reservoirs to maybe muddle through another summer and pray for rain next winter. The Pacific is like a hot tub right now.

Here.., present and accounted for(raises hand). I am glad to see so many senior members here. I feel down right young at age 52, soon to be 53 this March 8th, thank-you very much. I loved the old forum. It was a good way for me to my feet wet with what was wrong with this country and what was going on inside of me at the time. I still visit and lurk here. Especially when I need to get away from the Walmart society for a bit.

Posted at latoc, but lurk (much) here. I read “The Fourth Turning” in ’97 and started planning then. I attended the first US Transition Movement seminar in Boulder, CO in 2008 (but failed at getting local interest or involvement). I currently am urban homesteading (in part) in a small town in SE MN. To the extent possible, all of my food products are sourced from local farms and gardens. I process it myself, and store it for year-round consumption. Passive solar cuts heating/cooling expense. I am working on harvesting rain water. Latoc was a breath of fresh air (and a sanity-saver) at a time when you couldn’t talk doom to family, friends, co-workers or neighbors. Actually, still can’t. I too am a “boomer” doomer.

I sure miss my friend Jeromie... After L.O.T.O.C., Jeromie, JB and I (then the Black Knight), went over to Dr. Doom's site, were we accumulated almost 300 pages on the same thread which had over 60,000 views. Jeromie was one of the best informed articulate writers, I've ever encountered. Shortly after 2013, we finally gave it up. I suppose, since it was basically just the three of us posting, we pretty much said all that we wanted, conveying information, thoughts and theories. This much is certain, no one has ever influenced my view as much as this great man.

Yeah, I remember that whole phase with Jeromie. I thought Jeromie was terribly bright and was disappointed at the disappearance of such a lucid poster from LATOC. Sometimes, though, people just disappear from our circles, both virtually and otherwise....for a whole slew of reasons. It is cool to look back and realize I've been fraternizing with some of youse since 2003 when I joined LATOC....That was one of the very first forums I ever joined and I lurked for almost two years before saying a peep! So much to wrap my poor head around, and I was kinda intimidated by them doomers

I thought LATOC started in 2005, a few months before I joined? It went back to 2003? Just as a news site and then 2005 as a forum?

Joined latoc to read news and lurk after reading the essay after finding it because I searched for this silly phrase "peak oil" and just a month or three before the implosion. Was invited here by BSC I think who has long since disappeared

I am at the "whatever" stage. Living life and enjoying it and trying to not be a dick about it... ie not contributing more to the issues than I must to survive. Still progressing towards a goal of carbon neutral or even negative. Have 30 acres locked up that I intend to manage and protect.

If there must be dark days, let them be in my time... or something to that effect.

Dang Emeline, it was bad enough to hear NZ is in drought too, but for it to also not have bees as usual is really disturbing. It's probably from reading 'On the Beach', but I always think of NZ as the last holdout for normal. Not no mo', shit.

Agree with above comments about shitting ones pants when first reading latoc. I had heard Heinberg give a talk about the same time. He's still talking. Matt not so much, heh.

I don't shit my pants anymore. The shit is happening right outside. Mid Feb. here in upstate California and it is 78 degrees, the fruit trees are blooming, at least four weeks early, and fourth year of low water in the reservoirs. The east drowns in snow and we dry up in the west. Almost no snow in the mountains. There is enough water in the reservoirs to maybe muddle through another summer and pray for rain next winter. The Pacific is like a hot tub right now.

Heh grave, that book (On The Beach) scared the heck out of me when I was a kid.

In a way the drought here isn't so bad for some because there's a lot of irrigation. We still have free and unrestricted water. About a third of it comes from aquifers though. I was wondering how long NZ could keep pumping out of those aquifers. It seems we have around 612 billion cubic metres of water in underground aquifers. I'm finding it hard to get my head around that. With a population of 4 million how much water is that per person? Funnily enough I just read China has invested $612 billion in water conservation projects.

I thought LATOC started in 2005, a few months before I joined? It went back to 2003? Just as a news site and then 2005 as a forum?

Yeah, I may have my years wrong, as it has become a blur...2004-2005 is probably more accurate. I just remember the implosion of 2008 a few years into my peak oil awareness, then LATOC goes boom, then SilCo. Thanks for that, Alex.

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. --R.W. Emerson

Jeromie....the guy who knew the state of the NY Fed balance sheet and who knew so much! He was one of my favorite posters. I wish I could read current postings from him today with respect to current events! :-(

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