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i know the stock tires are no good on ice, but everything was really slippery last night and every time i tried to accelerate the back end wanted to swing out on me. would putting some weight back there help? like people do with pickups?

If winters in ND are as harsh as I think they are, perhaps you should invest in some snow tires?

It's those few hours before the roads are "cleaned up", where the DWS's make the difference. I can understand on waiting until your current tires wear out or throw you into a ditch before they will be replaced. I was proactive and replaced them upon the initial purchase of my Impreza Sport - maybe money wasted; however, peace of mind was and is worth it to me.

Dealer is pretty clueless on how to adjust the mpg so I'm hoping they can do it. I had to show them the page in the manual on how to do it, but it isn't very descriptive on the process

Can I ask which manual you are refering to? I spent a little time going back a few pages through this thread but didn't find it. I'm thinking my mpg reading on my 2013 is a bit optomistic. If it can be adjusted, that is great. Thanks in advance.

My sport limited had 12 miles when i picked it up. They even did the master cylinder brake recall on it.

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Originally Posted by Moonbear

Hey Guys,

Hoping someone could help me out with an issue I'm facing. Ordered the following Impreza about 2 months ago

2012 2.0i Sport Premium
5 Door, 5 Speed
Dark Grey Metallic

Today I received a call saying the car had arrived. It had to be ordered and thus was build in Japan and shipped over. Because it is brand new I expected it to have between 1-10 miles on it. Instead, it had 46.9 miles. When I asked the salesman he told me that Subaru "randomly" picks some cars after they're built and tests them. The thing is, they can't provide any record of who tested it, where it was tested, etc.

Has anyone else ever heard of Subaru doing anything like this? I can't find any record of Subaru randomly pulling new cars and testing them. I'm contemplating having them order me another if I can't get a solid answer. Seems like everyone else is getting them with under 10 miles. Appreciate any input.

WOW, just found this forum a couple of days ago. I'm kind of picking through this post, but with well over 500 pages, I don't intend to hit every page. In response to your concern, (which may already be a non-issue), you have a set amount of warranty, which begins with the original stated mileage on the purchase contract and title. So say for example you get a car with 50 miles on it and you have a 60,000 mile warranty, your warranty will expire at 60,050 miles, excluding the possibility that the time limit is reached first. I would not get too hung up on 46 miles myself unless I discovered a scratch or something. Just my 2 cents.

I was originally going to use the Mobil1 because I can easily get it for a decent price at my local Wally World. After doing some reading though, it doesn't look to be well recommended because of poor used oil analyses. I thought of trying AMSoil, but it seems more expensive and less readily availble than other brands. Anyone have a better suggestion for a quality oil brand?

I've been buying Amzoil for my bikes for over 10 years. I call my guy, or simply hit the Amzoil web site, and find a package on my door step a few days later. You can't get much easier than that.

As for quality oil, Amzoil is what all others aspire to be as good as. It has been some time, but the reports I read some years ago put Amzoil at the top.

No because on my normal drive the roads are usually cleaned up within 1 day. We usually get more cold than snow

When these tires are about worn out I will get some continental dws's

I still think the 400 for winter tires is cheap insurance 400 is usually less than some ppl deductible and the tires might come in handy in a pinch. Your point on plowed road is valid as well so is the counterpoint of whats the point of snow tires when the idiots around you don't have them, tailgate and also can't drive. What a fun world we live in

Item 4 appears to be accomplished by burning enormous amounts of gas in the first 3 miles of driving, resulting in the major hit on fuel economy for the inner City folks that are doing short errand type driving or really short commutes.

Actually, it would be running leaner to get hot. Big problem with air cooled motorcycles these days are that they run so lean the cylinders run hotter without more fuel to cool them. Many people are getting the ECU reflashed or an O2 optomizer to be able to trick the puter into running richer.

Can I ask which manual you are refering to? I spent a little time going back a few pages through this thread but didn't find it. I'm thinking my mpg reading on my 2013 is a bit optomistic. If it can be adjusted, that is great. Thanks in advance.

I still think the 400 for winter tires is cheap insurance 400 is usually less than some ppl deductible and the tires might come in handy in a pinch. Your point on plowed road is valid as well so is the counterpoint of whats the point of snow tires when the idiots around you don't have them, tailgate and also can't drive. What a fun world we live in

i know, I have been driving up here for what will be 13 winters after this one. never had snow tires, just have to be careful and defensive. if someone else doesn't have them either and they slide into me, it won't make any difference if i have them or not.

You'll recover most of the cost of a set of winter wheels and tires in time.

Winter tires give your all-seasons a break and used wheels can be sold at little depreciation.

The only real downside is having to store an extra set of tires.

I've heard people who've only driven on all-seasons claim they're good enough. I've also heard people swear by their winter tires (myself included). What I haven't seen is ambivalence from people who've tried both.

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if someone else doesn't have them either and they slide into me, it won't make any difference if i have them or not.

I've heard people who've only driven on all-seasons claim they're good enough. I've also heard people swear by their winter tires (myself included). What I haven't seen is ambivalence from people who've tried both..

I thought that I didn't need snow tires either until I slid into the back of a tractor trailer on the highway. That was all I needed to get a set of winter tires

I always put snows on for the winter....even though I drive a Subie. I live in the "Snow Belt" south of Buffalo and they definately make a difference to me. Back in 2010, I had a Legacy and took a corner at an intersection sideways because I only had all season tires on her(and wasn't going fast at all). A week later, with snows, I went around the same intersection corner...faster..and the Subie never missed a beat.

i just installed my DWS tires on yesterday, and i must say, they are alot quieter than the stock yokies. i have driven about 190 miles on them already. yes, i drive alot. the yokies only had about 16K-17K on them when i took them off. they still had plenty of life in them. about 7/32. they could have lasted for about 40-50K easily. i got rid of them because of my expreience with them in the rain. i took a road trip with them from atlanta, ga to memphis, tn in hard pouring rain. the car hydroplane several times on small puddles of about .5-1in deep and i had to concentrate on keeping the car straight. to give a perspective on my driving experience, i am no novice driver. i autox and track race my 2006 honda s2000. i have raced in the race with racing tires and boy was that a nightmare. racing in the rain with that or even driving home in the rain took major concentration and constant steering input/corrections. the impreza on stock yokies wasnt like this by any means, but i was just shocked when i was on my road trip. i was only going about 55-60 mph on a 70 mph highway. i had to drop my speed to 45-50 to feel confident.

anyways, i had these tires on my girlfriends c240 4matic and they handled great for an A/S. should be even better with subaru legendary awd. cant wait for the snow.

Remember the saying "where the rubber meets the road," this is true of any tire. Winter tires do make a difference, but like other categories of tires, they don't all perform the same. I have seen a Honda Odyssey with mediocre Michelin Symmetry all-season tires get better traction on frozen crusted snow than the cheap OEM Bridgestone Potenza RE-92s on a Subaru Legacy. I owned both cars, and I popped money immediately on a set of winter tires for both cars, way back when. So, even with AWD, a FWD drive did better because of the tires (for the particular situation), and we're just comparing All-Seasons. I have had sets of Michelins, Bridgestones, and Dunlop winter tires. I actually prefer the Michelins (Artic Alpins/X-Ice) over the Bridgestones (Blizzaks) for winter "touring" tires. So, I chose Michelins on my '12 Impreza and the old '00 Odyssey. I run Dunlop WinterSports on my '08 Infiniti G35X. The winter tires stop faster, provides more control when braking, and offer better traction to get you going. I always buy my tire/rim sets from The Tire Rack, and replacement tires from Costco, if they carry what I'm looking for. I think they have the best prices.

Like others said, the expense of the extra set of tires/rims is partially offset by extending the life of your set of non-winter tires. The drawback that others have also pointed out is finding a place to store the extra set of tires/rims. The $800 I spent offer me a peace of mind and is well worth it in my opinion. If the person behind me doesn't stop as quick as I do and dings me, at least I know it's their fault, and they pick up the insurance tab. It won't make me any happier knowing that I will have to visit an auto body shop.

Just food for thought here, so take it FWIW. The wheel bearings on cars these days are $$$. Changing the offset can create side loads that the bearing was not designed to have, which could cause premature wear.

Please do whatever you like. It is no skin off my nose. Just giving you something to consider.