Martin Armstrong Warns "We Are Witnessing The Collapse Of Democracy"

Part of the war cycle is just the general feeling or attitude shifts due to economics. We seem to be headed for such a fateful turn.

The police domestically have turned militaristic.

This is a very serious issue far beyond what most people would even guess. It tends to show the changing attitudes within society.

Couple this with Obama who seems to think he was elected to start a war. We are approaching a serious turning point that may reshape the world as did 1932 following the economic trend of the Great Depression.

The year 1932 saw Mao come to power in China. In Germany, Hitler came to power. FDR came to power in the United States. Even in Japan, the seeds of war were planted with the May 15 Incident, in which Prime Minister Tsuyoshi Inukai was assassinated by young military officers in an attempted coup. The killing spread fear among Japan’s liberal politicians and strengthened the militarists, who eventually led the country into the catastrophic Pacific War.

1932, which was also the low in the markets from 1929. The year 2007 began the changing process and we should be looking ahead now [for] the war cycle will turn upward.

We are witnessing the collapse of democracy or to put it in the proper perspective – the right of the people to vote even in a republic. Europe is hell-bent on removing any democratic process because Brussels believes they know best and the people are just too stupid to know what is best for them.

Amen to that, without taking the Lord's name in vain of course. Perhaps we can also stop using "liberal" to describe tyrants, "new and improved" to describle the same but less, and "free" to describe slavery.

Martin Armstr0ng was the gopher boy for Brit Neocon Sir Alan Walters. Armstr0ng's mentor was a card carrying member of the NWO. Walters is dead now but when he was alive this is how Walters spent his time:

AEI, you may have heard, is the HQ for the NeoCon NWO Goat Worshipers who are responsible for damn near every bad thing happening in the world right now.

Armstr0ng's writings show he is trying to keep that NWO flame alive, doing his part by highlighting one side of a manufactured conflict. A manufactured conflict brought to you by his handlers in NeoCon central - the American Enterprise Instute. They have spent years pushing their Hegelian dialectic, order out of chaos game plan.

Armstr0ng is one their pets. He may have arrived at this point against his will, via bribery, coercion etc, leveraging his trouble with the law. The outcome is he is neocon pet and therefore a professional shit disturber. Caveat emptor amigos.

I have no objection to any of that except for one thing. The NWO is not responsible for all of the bad things happening. Human nature is. The NWO is responsible for channelling the greed and avarice of human nature into the things that are happening. Getting rid of the NWO will be a wonderful and momentous day in human history but it will not bring peace and happiness to all as we cannot rid ourselves of human nature.

Democracy is a euphemism for mob rule. Living in a system where 51% (of those who can bother to vote) tell the other 49% what they can do in their homes (at the end of a gun) is not all that great for many of the participants. As long as the electoral process remains the same we little people "elect" no one. We are allowed to believe that we are involved in the selection process so that the whole mess seems legitimate to the non-critical thinking group.( the majority of voters).

Sad truth is that parts of the USA will have to look like Gaza before the average American can grasp this idea.

The real danger to America is not the false leaders like Bush and Obama, there will be and endless supply of these used car salesmen. The real danger to America is a citizenry that continues to "elect" these charlatans as if there were any REAL difference between them.

That's what the Founding Fathers, who were all slave-owners and dead scared of the people, wanted you to believe. In fact, the people generally show more common sense than their leaders. That is, when they're allowed to have a voice at all in the policies, which is not the case nowadays - as we're not in a democracy anymore, we're in an oligarchy that portrays as a democracy.

I'm not sure where you are coming from with this but the "capitalism" Chomsky is talking about is not actually capitalism. If anything, the elites know that capitalism is unworkable (for them) because capitalism does not allow for control (by them) of everything produced and consumed. Hence, the system they push is absolutely not capitalism.

Hell, go to the school where I work and talk to people with BAs, MAs, or PhDs...talk about scary...you get basketball, softball, baseball, or 5th-grade political indoctrination crap. They understand the words, but they look at you like you're explaining high-energy particle physics. Hey, I saw this thing on pinterest...

I'm with you man. Everyone I talk to seems to have the IQ of a chicken. They dress the same, watch the same shows on TV, think the same, use the same words and believe the same shit without understanding one iota of what any of it means.

Talk to them about ANYTHING with meaning and they excuse themselves, change the subject and ask if I watched "The Voice" last night or tell me who will win the Footy comp this year. That's it!

I honestly feel like some type of freak! I am either the smartest guy in the crowd or the dumbest. I know more than any of them. Hell, I know more than any of them added together but I'm still not sure whether that makes me smart or dumb?

What makes you smart or dumb is how you use your knowledge. No doubt they are smart because they have been able to make a living despite being mental midgets. No offense intended toward midgets of course.

At one time, something like 10% of the population was in mental institutions and prisons. Today about 1% remain in prison and mental institutions are almost nonexistent. Where are all the nutters now?

Go to the mall today and ask 100 American subjects what kind of government the US has. Please report back your results. I'm going place a big bet on "democracy" being the winner. Perception is reality and they will vote themselves gifts from the Treasury even though in reality these gifts are simply chains to ensure their bondage.

That's representative democracy. Direct democracy, on the other hand, leaves some power in each individual voter's hands. Otherwise there wouldn't have been periods of tyranny in Athens, Corinth, Syracuse, etc.

@Pladizow: "Democracy is a suggestion box for slaves. Fixed it for ya."

Perhaps. Probably. And yet it... DEPENDS, given places like Switzerland -- where they have not been invaded or done any invading for centuries. Of course, in their system of Democracy, they have more regional autonomy, and within each region they have Direct Representation/Voting on Laws. Something to think about.

The point is... If America is the place where all kinds of things get invented and re-invented, then why not "American Democracy" also? Or should we simply try to get back to the Original 1776 formula, which has been so badly warped and hijacked -- thanks to a veritable army of the Dumb, Lazy, Willfully Uninformed and plain Scared?

Umm, I have news for you:Even though they narrowly avoided stepping wholeheartedly into the EU trap, Switzerland has effectively sold out through allowing UBS and CS to become so big also outside of Switzerland, that they and by extension the whole Swiss financial system and economy can be blackmailed. As already proven several times. Because of that, they have lost status of financial safe haven ("island") which was their biggest reason for not getting invaded over the last few centuries.

Recent study says what we already know: that our votes count for nothing. Maybe people are catching on. A commission in LA is considering the idea of giving prizes for voting. They want the illusion and that's all.

“America stands before the world as an impetuous void, a fatality without substance. Nothing prepared her for hegemony; yet she tends toward it, not without a certain hesitation. Unlike the other nations which have had to pass through a whole series of humiliations and defeats, she has known till now only the sterility of an uninterrupted good fortune. If, in the future, everything should continue to go as well, her appearance on the scene will have been an accident without influence. Those who preside over her destiny, those who take her interests to heart, should prepare her for bad times; in order to cease being a superficial monster, she requires an ordeal of major scope. Perhaps she is not far from one now. Having lived, hitherto, outside hell, she is preparing to descend into it. If she seeks a destiny for herself, she will find it only on the ruins of all that was her raison d'être.”

" Over time, that guarantee was ammended and eroded to ineffectivity by inattentiveness by the inhabitants. "

Probably not only "inattentiveness". Those who "ammended and eroded to ineffectivity" The Constitution didn't do so necessarily inattentively. But here you are precisely expressing that in the real world, we will always have to count on inattentiveness (and probably on some other ingredients), to inevitably walk from the world of ideas put on some piece of paper (republic) , into that of reality (democracy .....probably degenerating in some tyranny, in the end).

And maybe, we are now, at some point in time where the tree of liberty will have to be refreshed with .......

I think we have a very representative society. Our rotten government very accurately represents Americans. Our sloth, our greed, our violence, our desire for power and wealth at any cost...except hard work and accountability. Our leaders would like for us to believe that THEY can make us better. Make laws that civilize us, make us less racist, less sexist, less greedy and small. But somehow through their efforts to purify us they have taken on all of our sins and become the very essence of what they claim to desire to destroy. Unfortunately THEY are us and we demonstrate our worthiness of them everyday in places like Ferguson MO.

Dollar Menu - It was inevitable it would end. A government is a tool. It was built with great intent but the design was 3D pyramid. That power would be concetrated in the exeuctive and led around the nose by banking inevitable. The government is just the second rung of the pyramid for the time being. with the citizenship themselves at the bottom. After this one goes down, build a 4D model instead, liberty will last longer.

In the long run, I really don't think it matters what model you build. Some will be more resilient than others, but I think that, no matter what, be it democracy, a republic, communism, anarchy etc... you will have people who want to be led, who want to be taken care of and who are just plain as fuck dumb and you will also have people who like to control others. Put those two together and you'll eventually get a government that slides towards tyranny. I think that TJ was onto something about the tree of liberty needing to be watered from time to time.

El Vaquero - I am not saying I disagree that human nature will evenfually corrupt every system. I suggest a design that may be more resistent to corruption and last a bit longer. What kind of foundation you build a house on does matter doesn't it?

Lotteries to fill what now pass for elected positions. Mandatory participation by every citizen with a high school diploma.

"The ordinary affairs of a nation offer little difficulty to a person of any experience, but the gift of office is a dreadful burden which oppresses him." ~ Thomas Jefferson

A burden. That is what public office should be. Two years service at whatever the average salary of the nation is and then back to the general population to live under the laws you have helped to enact. Accepting a bribe - treason with a mandatory life imprisonment.

Not a perfect system, but a vast improvement over the current state of affairs.

Always was. Human nature being what it is, I don't think we'll be able to invent a gov't that the worst of us can't find a way to subvert. The better the system, the longer it takes. But the outcome isn't in doubt.

A lot of fuxx voted for this twice. The RINO-Neo-Con-Amnesty gang made sure Soros, Lester Crown and Sheldon Adelson got Obama or their plan B in McCain and Romney.

Ron Paul was nuke. Rick Santorum was beating Romney but Adelson had money on Romney and his phony CFR stooge and fake conservative Newt. They had to resort to vote fraud to save Romney in the Midwest. Adelson did not like Santorum because he was "too Christian."

I went to DC the other day to see some sights. One place I visited was the National Archives. When I had gone before as a kid, I seem to remember the Constitution place high on the wall so everyone in the rotunda looked up at and could see it. Since then there has been a renovation, and now the Constitution is placed in what looks like a sarcophagus you slowly walk past and look down upon, like viewing the dead body at a wake. The entire experience was like walking into a mausoleum or a tomb. In addition, the document is fading and almost unreadable. . . all fitting symbolism for th ecurrent state of affairs.

What democracy? We were a republic that turned into an Empire, a crony capitalist state where the banksters rule all.

I just fail to get it. OR DO YOU?

Let me parse your comment.

What democracy? ( Well I guess the one US instituted and allowed to fail over many, many decades. Maybe someone was "asleep at the wheel" or just plain lazy.? Or is it the democracy you refer to that slaughtered cultures at will? Annihilated and purged people and then glorified Custer et al.? Or perhaps it is the democracy that used other humans as livestock for centuries? Perhaps that is your democracy that you refer to?

Perhaps you are referring to some fantasy you created in your belief system? Maybe you refer to the democracy tha disenfranchises voters and buys politicians? The one where your legal system is bought and sold by bank accounts? Perhaps this democracy you mourn is one that never existed.....because?......hold on>>>>YOU GUYS were asleep at the wheel.

You mourn a republic that turned into an empire?. Look to the past. You "folks" were complacent. Never got beyond lazy for all your priveledge.

Who caused this? ask yourself and then ask your parents....then ask your ancestors who were asleep at the wheel.

Yet still we are in this predicament. The same predicament as all other repewbliks in the history of repewbliks; Devolution to Demockracy, then the adoption of the two forms Socialism (Fascism or Marxism). It all works, right up until they inevitably collapse under their own corrupt, centrally planned, unproductive wieght.

You, I can relate. I too would have more "friends" on ZH, if I didn't point out the shortcomings of the Judeo/Christian religions and the pathological and cosmic failures of the secular and clerical leadership of Christians themselves.

As I've said before: "People CLAIM to 'want to have the truth', but that's not true. 95% of people want "the truth", only as long as it does not attack or shake their existing worldview."

If you wonder why that is, I think that the reason is rational, as it is simple: It is not that they can't grasp these challenges at the intellectual level, but that they can't and won't accept them at the EMOTIONAL level. For if they were to accept these challenges to their worldview/religion, then the implications and CONSEQUENCES are so profound (so much 'Invested'), that they are not ready to deal with the consequences at the emotional level.

p.s. Sometimes the devious side of me wonders, if I should experiment with "Singing the Praises God", and see how many more Up arrows I get, but Cognitive Dissonance and sheer self-respect stops me. Peace.

there is an attitude refered to as "praise in complaint". quick sufi example- adam is sweating his broken ass ofF in the fields, (this is post garden obviously) working on raising enough wheat to barely survive a winter, and with great pissed offedness shakes his raised fist at GOD ...... " so you can have a little realization of your divine state , i gotta do this?"

THX 1178 - I agree. Here is a fun experiment, only takes a second. Take a piece of paper, draw a big pyramid with three sections. At the top put in the word 'concepts'. In the middle put in the word 'issues'. At the bottom put the word 'details'. When a nation forms it is for collective security which includes concepts like freedom and liberty. However, those at the top begin pushing wedge issues down. The people begin getting mired in them and finally focus on endless details. The population has lost the ability to think conceptually. Now they can be conquered by sociopaths thinking conceptually. Yuk, yuk, yuk.

Now you can add to the right of your pyramid a dash next to concepts and write 'adults'. Next to issues a dash and 'adolescents'. At bottom a dash next to details and write 'infants'. Is our national behavior of its populace adolescent and infantile?

Congradulations. You just drew a pyramid of thought. This is how mankind organizes his thoughts but we've been rapidly evolving to 4D for a few centuries anyways. Remember Bill Clinton yapping about trinagulating this or that? 3D models were so yesterday... yawn.

The strange thing is that these tactics were utilized in Pittsburgh for the G20, the RNC in Tampa, Boston Scareathon, Occupy WallStreet, and a variety of other instances prior to Ferguson. My question is why the public is waking up to the control grid around us now as opposed to then? Some of us were screaming POLICE STATE, but were ridiculed then.

I met a special forces guy once who told me that I should not waste my time trying to wake the public for two reasons. 1. to live a long life 2. all over the world, people lie to themselves and take no action untill they have nothing else to lose. We have been in a depression for most of the last thirteen years and seen the evisceration of the middle class. I have one thing positive to say about the deliberate dumbing down of america(charlotte iserbyt). It has resulted in the degradation of the educational system even in the ivy leagues which gives hope that their clientelle will underestimate the gullibility of the masses and overestimate their own attributes.

The difference between Ferguson and all the others -- the police escalated the situation. All other others the police went Nazi out the door in response to protestors, here they escalated in a very might-makes-right, in-your-face way, and that really rubs people the wrong way.

I think another issue is in spite of all the posts here to the contrary, people that live in the area say that Ferguson really didn't have much in the way of race issues relative to other areas, and it's not ghetto like east St. Louis is, etc. Several people that live in the area have said it's very clearly a power thing (and a power trip) by the county cops, and that probably colored a lot of the response by the local community (which seem to be quick to point out that the looters weren't from the area.)

In any case, it's a good thing, this woke a lot of people up and the thuggish cops set their cause back a few years and probably will bring attention to other over-the-top abuses like those in ABQ.

Speaking of the police state, wasn't it the Greeks that were throwing water balloons filled with paint on the police to make it so that they couldn't see out of their gas masks? Either way, if it wasn't the Greeks, it is the concept that is important. When we devolve to the point that the Greeks are, we should one-up them. Water balloon launchers that can fling one 100 yards or so would be an idea. Dozens of them that are easy to set up near any place where you expect the tear gas to appear. But people should wait to launch the balloons not just until after gas has been popped, but when the cops with the gas masks are in the middle of the gas. Imagine 50 or so balloons coming in every 5-10 seconds and what it would do to police cohesion. Then, while they're choking on their own tear gas, you're free to do whatever you need to do.

You'll get no argument on that from me. At the nation state level, the only thing democracy accomplishes is putting a society's worst sociopaths in charge of everything. We'd be better off staffing the government with people chosen at random and then swapping them out at random intervals.

Democracy only works at a very local level, where the elected have to live and work among those who vote. The shenanigans of politicians will be less frequent and less severe when they have to mingle with the electorate when dining at a restaurant, shopping for groceries, putting gas in their car, etc., especially when everyone knows who they are and where they live.

The world is much bigger than just the USSA, but "democratically elected representative governments worldwide" sounds like verbal diarrhea (and pure bullshit from a serf's perspective) outside of academia or a policy paper.

Martin is definitely not intelligent, and ZeroHedge doesn't appear to be very smart either by publishing his articles. Half the other articles on here are just as bad. This place is a perfect example of nutty conspiracy theorists waving their hands and yelling hyperbolies about every insignificant event.

Because there are very few truly intelligent people left. Our dumbed down educational system keeps drumming "democracy" into our heads from a very early age and most of us never figure out what democracy really is (2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner). A guy by the name of Adolph Hitler was a great fan of democracy, because he actually understood what he could do with it. I've posted this factoid before, but for the benefit of those who are unaware: Hitler was the democratically elected leader of Germany.

Fuck you, Martin Armstrong - we're witnessing the collapse of centrally-planned fascism. Don't place this failure at the feet of the people that have been enslaved and victimized by it - you broke it, you own it, asshole.