Comment by Wildhorn

Dont rate this up. Else it will be a pain to rate it down once 2.4 go lives and we will be able to see all the loot normaly.

Comment by Lubixi

then wowhead admins will remove it if someone asks. As they always do

edit; and why shouldn't people be informed about the loot ?

Comment by Pyroshen

It's a great informative post, all the author has to do is edit it once wowhead has it's own links and it will be even better. I rated it up.

Comment by Seregon

Tactics for the Kael fight in the Magister's Terrace:

Kael'Thas basically has two phases. He starts off by doing mostly melee attacks and the occasional fireball on a random party member. Fire resistance shouldn't be an issue, but anything you've got with you will do basically.

He will spawn a phoenix which should be kited by a ranged class as it does a fire based AoE around him. After a while the phoenix will blow up, dealing massive fire damage and an AoE knockback to anyone within range. Still uncertain about the range on this though. We just stayed a good 40 yards away from it. Once it is dead it leaves a phoenix egg that must be nuked down or else it will be reborn.

At 50% Kael'Thas enters his 2nd phase where he will use Gravity Lapse. Gravity Lapse throws the entire party up in the air and you are free to move as if you were swimming under water. He will also start channeling arcane magic to the entire party ticking for about 350 damage every few seconds. A healer with an AoE heal is much appreciated here. He will also spawn arcane orbs which will deal 2,000 damage if they hit you. Swim around and avoid the orbs and keep dps up on Kael.

Gravity Lapse will eventually end and you will get a few seconds to heal up and deal some damage to Kael before he casts Gravity Lapse again. Stay alive and keep DPS up and he should be down in no time.

Comment by ashwee

Also, I don't know why. But a t6 priest said to stay off the ground. I don't know what will happen if you touch it, but I wasn't about to find out.

presumably because its like the 25man kael fight, u'll get knocked up into the roof?

Comment by Wannabehero

From the sound of it, this promises to be a fun fight. I love when Bliz actually decides to make fights interesting with strange new features, such as gravity lapse, rather than just making bosses hit harder and summon more adds.

Looking forward to it!

Comment by Conceited

Normal Instance Strategy:

Kael will cast Fireballs which can be interrupted, whether you do or not doesn't matter much, they don't hit hard.

He summons a Phoenix which moves very slowly. It does a hellfire type effect while moving. It should be aggro'd and kited by someone with range while killing it. The Phoenix explodes on death, stay away. Once it dies it leaves an egg behind, kill that asap.

When Kael reaches 50% he cast a spell called Gravity Lapse. A beam will lift and stay on each party member causing small but steady amounts of damage. A healer with HoT's is best for this. He also spawns arcane orbs which slowly follow people around. If you get too close to them they do a large amount of damage to you. You can continue to damage him during this time in the air. If you go and walk on the ground you will be punted back into the air and not be able to move for a couple of seconds. If you are near an orb at this time it can be fatal.

The best tactic I found for this stage was to have your entire group "swim" to the front of the room where the door is, cast some DoT's/HoT's/Direct Damage spells and when the orbs get close everyone swim to the front and left side of the room, repeat damage. Then move to the back, repeating damage, then to the other side of the room. Always staying ahead of the orbs. By now the Gravity Lapse is over and you have about 10 seconds to DPS Kael hard before he casts the Gravity Lapse again.

All in all an easy fight if your group is paying attention and knows what to do.

Klair - Kul'Tiras

Comment by Klabb

I can't belive this guy don't drop any tank items! Thank you SO much Blizz... >.>

Comment by Hellba

i think someone said these were known drops, so their could be more.

agreed, though; wtf bliz?

Comment by uzper

Anyone have any idea how well geared you have to be to successfully take down kael'thas in the normal mode dungeon?

Comment by Conceited

Kael shouldn't be your problem in this instance. The trash is likely the hardest part. It should be fully completable with a group in level 70 type blues. If you can complete Shattered Halls then this place is similar difficulty.

Comment by Salmon

Did full instance in normal difficulty with 4 people in the group, without a tank. Mage, warlock (me), shadow priest and holy priest. Apart from first and last boss we did whole instance without wipes, seems quite a joke really to have a warlock tanking these bosses, and especially as this is the only normal instance to have guaranteed epic drops.

Comment by Pyroshen

Does running this on heroic mode lock out the normal mode epics or is it like other 70 instances where the heroic drops are just a bonus?

Comment by whitedragon254

Fun little fact. ATM when he uses gravity lapse spell he says Well that sucked lets try again. (PH). The (PH) means place holder so its going to be replaced of course before it goes live. Still pretty funny to see.

Comment by logikklol

No *!@# -.-

Comment by Swiftly

It would be unreasonable to assume that Blizz put an epic flying mount for horde only in an instance, is there an instance with an epic mount for alliance?

Comment by maestus

:( i feel so sad...kael'thas looks really ugly..

Comment by Fabricated

Short Version:

Phase One (From 100% life to 50%):-Wimpy melee with the odd, interruptable fireball-Occasionally casts a very obvious, slowly charging aoe explosion centered on one person. A gigantic swirling magic effect will appear under the target. Just move. It's big and it hurts.-Summons a slow moving, aoeing phoenix add about 10-15ish seconds in. Kill it, and then kill the egg it leaves behind quickly. He will resummon it if you don't get him to 50% fast enough, if that's the case, be sure to stop dpsing kael and take care of it again.

Phase Two (From 50% to 0%):-Casts Gravity Lapse (2-3 second cast), pulling everyone to him and throwing you a bit up in the air. You can swim through the air like you do through water, and you move pretty fast.-During this lapse everyone takes 400 damage per second.-3 sparkling orbs appear as well and randomly chase after party members. They move pretty slow, but their speed can and will change up and down. Kite/Avoid them.-When the lapse ends, you fall to the ground and Kael is stunned for about 8-10 seconds and takes 50% more damage. When the stun ends he recasts Gravity Lapse. Lather rinse repeat.

Short:-Move out of the AoE.-Kill the Phoenix, kill the egg.-at 50%, avoid the orbs, keep people without a lot of HP up.-DPS hard when the lapse ends.-Avoid the goddamn orbs. You WILL wipe if you cannot do this.

Comment by draguza

The fight is pretty simple, but the phoenix add was quite a surprise when I saw it.

In normal mode it hits like a truck, so you really don't want to leave it alive (It was getting 2k whites and 1.5k AoE ticks on my hunter), but if you choose to, or don't kill the egg, when he sends you up in the air, it will start casting fireballs (4 second cast rather than 3 I think, it took a while), and they hurt. Also, its kind of fun to watch while your flying in the air, because it slowly patrols back and forth in a half circle motion.

It is a very slow mob, so kiting it or killing it are both options (We had a lock on one side and me on the other side of the room just kill it, it doesn't have a super high amount of health, and the egg dies quite fast)

Another thing, Kael'thas WILL kill your pets... I don't know if its a bug or not, but every time he does his gravity lapse my pet dies. All in all pretty simple fight if you avoid the things being thrown at you (While your floating you can cast spells as if you were in water/on land.)

Comment by bEwaRe

I don't get it, why didnt they put Cudgel of Consecration as a sword or a dagger and not a mace? It would be imba affliction lock weapon...

Comment by KainDarkfire

Read the name 'Consecration', then think of what class this might have been meant for.

Comment by Lubixi

its perfect for most caster classes. Aff locks, frost mages, shadow priests or even paladins

Guess they just loved priests and paladins more when they made this a mace ;)

Comment by DarkHuntah

This weapon is also great for balance druid.

Druids = Daggers and Maces

Comment by RebelSTRONG

as of 2/21/08; Normal Mode;the birds cast fireballs randomly making them nearly impossible to kite as they will sit there, aoe, and fireball people. Kael will occasionally Flame Strike like in the 25 man, with a fancy graphic on the ground moments before it explodes. Kael's fireballs seem to have ~2.5-3 second cast time. His Gravity Lapse deals 407 Arcane damage every 1 second to everyone in the group. My group had ranged just kill the bird/eggs as they spawned in phase 1, in phase 2, our shaman couldn't keep up with healing everyone's damage and avoid balls at the same time. I would recommend a circle of healing priest spamming during Gravity Lapse.

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Comment by thorsmjolner

As a paladin tank i would never use a mace that slow. The blue sword from blades edge is still better than this because anything slower than a 1.8 speed weapon is very bad for paladin threat generation.

Comment by Rhut

Anyone know what to do with his pyro on heroic mode? I don't see any weapons to buff with.

Comment by whitedragon254

Seriously >< jesus blizzard what the heck.

Comment by whitedragon254

When patch 2.4 goes public kael as well as all the bosses in Magisters Terrace are being buffed up. its unknown if the same will be happening in sunwell plateu but apparently the trash mobs out side of the instances are being a litttle buffed. Word has it that Magisters Terrace quests like getting the head of kael'thas are going to be edited to make more sense.

Comment by doombringer

While this is possible, there's no guarantee any buffs or nerfs will happen come 2.4's release. Don't post "guesses."

Comment by whitedragon254

Try reading it next time. If you read it it says that magister terrace and kael WILL be buffed. Apparently so are some trash on the isle but people are saying all trash. Im just stating that one thing. Try reading it next time instead of just skimming through and making a comment. And yes all of the dialect is being altered in 2.4 that has to do with the illidari and kael for blood elves. People have tried it on PTRs and they are altered (Blizz is currently altering the rest now atm)

Comment by Vallin23

Try quoting a source next time. You have nothing in your original post stating where you found this information. All Doombringer did was point this out. So if you want to provide information contrary to what is currently publicized you should probably provide a source.

Comment by mikkel269

Ehhh T6 maybe, they say that theres going to be better Gear then T6 coming that patch, but its not a set... so i will probably think you need T6

Comment by Sly99

The fact that he is as easy to kill as you say is kind of dissapointing, hes Sunstrider for gods sake! Make him harder to beat!

Comment by mentalbastille

Go pay him a visit in Tempest Keep, I think you'll find he's not quite a pushover there.

And thank the raiding guilds on your server for roughing him up so PUGers have a chance of killing him.

Comment by Csicska

Quotes;

This humorous outburst from Kael'thas in Magisters' Terrace - shouted when he tired from Gravity Lapse - was a placeholder until fairly recently:

Wow, that sucked. Oh well let's try again.

When Kael'thas is engaged:

"Don't look so smug! I know what you're thinking, but Tempest Keep was merely a set back. Did you honestly believe I would trust the future to some blind, half-night elf mongrel? Oh no, he was merely an instrument, a stepping stone to a much larger plan! It has all led to this, and this time, you will not interfere!"

Casting Gravity Lapse:

"I'll turn your world...upside...down." Tiring:

"Master, grant me strength." Recasting Gravity Lapse after tiring:

"Do not get...too comfortable." Death:

"My demise accomplishes nothing! The Master will have you! You will drown in your own blood! This world shall burn! Aaaghh!"[

From wowwiki

Comment by camane

Run from the glowing balls!It's not that difficult if everyone just pays attention and stays away from them

Comment by smack80

So if your dps is all or mostly melee, what do they do during phase 2? You have to keep moving and swimming away from him or the arcane orbs will gang up on your party.

I' d like the input of melee characters on how to deal with Kaelthas in phase 2.

ANYBODY WANT TO ANSWER THE QUESTION BASED ON TESTING RATHER THAN VOTING IT DOWN?

Comment by whitedragon254

It has still not been revealed if he actually did die at tempest keep and the crystal is keeping him alive. Blizz said once the patch is released they would give us more info on it. Time will tell.

Comment by Furkel

All I'd like to know is, does he actually ACTUALLY die this time?

Comment by whitedragon254

although i think that the attunement for heroic will be changed because it makes no sense how you kill kael take his head then you are actually told to go kill him again o.0. Seems like the quest is somewhat of a place holder for now

Comment by whitedragon254

Agreed. that or u take another one of his orbs. Seems like the crystal could prob be replaced.

Comment by Brunomedia

what's with that emerald that rips through his heart?

Comment by DeadlyAK

I'm quite disappointed that he doesn't say anything in Thalassian. As the leader of Sin'dorei, I think he should shout something in his home language too.

I'm trying to find translation to a couple more words and phrases, but, as there aren't that many different phrases sharing the same words, it's pretty hard to work out something new.

Comment by Pyroshen

Can the normal drops also drop in heroic (like the current 70 instances), or is the entire loot table changed to his heroic drops (like sub 70 instances).

...this'll probably get voted down but I'd like to know

Comment by Chickensoup

If you are a feral druid (and thus the tank 99% of the time) you likely dont need any gear off of this guy on either difficulty mode. its unfortunate but true. the level of gear necessary to complete these vs the actual gear you can pull from them is disproportionatly bad on tanks and healers especially.

as a matter of fact if you are a feral druid the only item you are likely to want is the trinket off the third boss on heroic. the only other exception might be the leather shoulders but thats a function of if you ever get kara drops for DPS gear or not

Comment by SimpsonsParadox

The Emerald that rips through is heart is a Fel Crystal that is providing him the Fel Energy that A) He's addicted to and B) That he requires to live (Since he did get throughly trashed in Outlands.)

Also, I'd like to add that, unless it has been changed recently, Warriors can also spell reflect his Fire attacks back at him in P1.

Comment by Fabricated

The normal drops are totally separate from the heroic drops and vice versa. You get two epics in heroic from the heroic table, and a blue and epic from the normal table on normal.

Comment by Akarare

So far it has been presumed that he did in fact die in Tempest Keep: The Eye, but he was ressurrected by Kil'jaeden the Deciever, if you look at the background for 2.4 that was set on the World of Warcraft website, it shows Kil'jaeden plunging the fel crystal into Kael's chest. Another presumption is that the Kael'thas in TK was just his shade, while his true form is actually much weaker (which would explain why he's a 5 man)

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Comment by Sounder

"Sunrage Shoulderpads" linked above in the Normal section is actually "Sunrage Treads". The tooltip is correct.

Comment by ferdinand

If kael's now in magister's terrace, than who's gonna be the last boss in the eye?

Comment by whitedragon254

Where does it show kil'jaeden plunging the crystal into kael'thas? its not on the site i just checked it. Trailer is pretty cool though.

Comment by SanchoKunda

Kael'thas too, but still alive, Magister's Terrace is dated after defeating Kael'Thas in TK: The Eye.

Comment by Shorty

Kael becomes untankable at 50%. It'd be a good idea for the tank to switch out his weapons and help the group another way once he gets that low.

Warriors can DPS; paladins can help heal; druids can either heal or DPS based on what's needed more.

Comment by Jedit

The instance is supposed to be SH/SL difficulty, and most of it is, but because Blizzard are idiots Kael'Junior was balanced on the basis of feedback from people in full T6. I went in with a party whose weakest member was in 50% Kara epics and whose strongest was in full T5, and he simply could not be killed at that gear level.

Comment by supertao

"The air around you hums - a gentle hum. The naaru are aware of your victory. Perhaps they are the reason you were compelled to pick up this sphere from the ***still-twitching*** remains of Kael'thas Sunstrider. What secrets could it hold?"

"The sphere... Strange. Did you know that he lived? Yes. It is here - in the sphere itself. Maimed for certain. He calls to a higher power now. No, not Illidan.

Higher.

Kil'jaeden the Deceiver comes...

Not here..."

---Upon returing the verdant sphere taken from Kael'thas's body (after he is defeaten in TK) to A'dal

Thus proving he was STILL ALIVE when it was taken.

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Comment by Sgtown

That's because they used to be shoulders, but he drops a different pair of leather shoulders in heroic, so they changed it to boots (without changing the stats).

Comment by Tekunin

Just got done doing this fight. It was rather fun.

On a humorous note: My group was a horrible fail pug. At about 25% everyone but me (UA warlock) died. Since all his damage ceased except the aoe damage tick and the orbs, I was able to solo him by drain tanking. We had a pretty good laugh.

Comment by Noblepants

Now that 2.4 is out, does it seem like he's been buffed to any of you that played on the PTR?

Comment by Noblepants

Now that 2.4 is out, does it seem like he's been buffed to any of you that played on the PTR?

Comment by Noblepants

Now that 2.4 is out, does it seem that the instance or Kael in particular have been buffed to any of you that played him on the PTR?

Comment by Baalzaman

Ran into a interesting "issue" with Kael'thas. Not sure if this is intended

First time running it heroic mode, we got to kael no worries, but started off on him a bit slow. He was getting close to 50% when he shielded and next thing we see a pyroblast warning. We were going wtf at that when it hit the tank and one-shotted him for 43k damage..! Same shield spell effect as the Tempest Keep version of Kael.

Next attempt we just zerged him down and there was no pyroblast. Go figure.

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Comment by Mike250

The Phoenix randomly shoots fireballs; what I've noticed is he seems to either shoot them or not at all. When he just floats around the room (being kited) it's relatively simple. When he fires upon us it's so much more difficult.

Should we be switching all DPS on him as soon as we identify he is shooting at us or is there a better way?

Comment by Mike250

The Phoenix randomly shoots fireballs; what I've noticed is he seems to either shoot them or not at all. When he just floats around the room (being kited) it's relatively simple. When he fires upon us it's so much more difficult.

Should we be switching all DPS on him as soon as we identify he is shooting at us or is there a better way?

Comment by Mike250

The Phoenix randomly shoots fireballs; what I've noticed is he seems to either shoot them or not at all. When he just floats around the room (being kited) it's relatively simple. When he fires upon us it's so much more difficult.

Should we be switching all DPS on him as soon as we identify he is shooting at us or is there a better way?

Comment by ocping

I'm guessing he still won't be dead when WotLK is released. Bloody !@#$roach.

Comment by Astanax

If you can avoid this guy's damaging spheres once he hits 50% then you're probably going to do fine.

The phoenix and egg are important to destroy quickly, but he hopefully won't get more than one of those off.

Comment by jaxsonbateman

Have done Kael a few times today. He's not too difficult at all.

First up, I haven't done him on heroic - but at least on normal, he doesn't melee very hard, and his fireballs are interruptable. So if you keep the interrupts up, really, you don't need a mainstream tank. The first time we killed him I was the tank (tankadin), and I served little use in phase 2. The second time we had our druid tank do P1 in kitty gear (as bear), and go kitty for P2, and this worked really well.

For phase 2, the aim of the game is to stay alive during gravity lapses. It's all too easy for melee to hit a few orbs trying to dps while in the air, and getting squished, but he goes down like a piece of cake when his lapse ends, so as long as you stay alive while in the air, you'll get your loot. Actually, on the first attempt we were down to a rogue, priest and myself (tank), and after realising that we just had to stay alive we were still able to take him down the last 30%.

So, to sum up - phase 1, interrupt those fireballs, kite that phoenix, win. Phase 2, stay alive, win. I'd imagine the only difference in heroic is to save your cooldowns for the P1 shock barrier + pyro, but I'll try and post after I've tried it out to shed some light.

Comment by Jderache

Again no warrior tank loots from bosses... And they say blizz doesn't make discriminations...

Comment by ZeeWolf

he also drops

Comment by Leshya

This fight was pretty ezpz on normal, I can't wait to try it on heroic. It was kinda funny, my group for the normal was two hunters, a warlock, me (a mage), and a druid. GG pet tanks!

Comment by yodadoe

Killed this guy last night, and boy was he a pain in the arse... Hard to Kill, indeed. Here are some pointers, until a more detailed guide is posted by someone...

Phase 1 -- Standard boss-tanking scenario, though he really doesn't hit very hard. A phoenix will spawn, which procs a steady Hellfire (like the fire elementals in Mech, though without the fire trail) and slowly goes straight for the healer. Have ranged DPS take it down (and slow it, if possible) immediately while tank sticks to boss. Melee DPS should probably stay on boss too, since the Hellfire is pretty damaging. After it explodes upon death (don't be near that!), an Egg will spawn, which should be destroyed to avoid a respawn (it is a phoenix!). Also of note, the Boss will randomly target someone (seems like it was the tank most of the time) with an AoE spell -- simply move out of it, or you'll die. It's hard to miss -- bright orange/pink aura with rotating spheres.

Phase 2a -- At 50% health, Boss "turns the world upside down" (Gravity Lapse). This throws everyone up into the air, applies a steady arcane DoT, and spawns large pink bubbles that result in large damage if you run into them. (It is a good idea to make sure you've killed all Phoenix and Eggs before you DPS him down to 50%, so those guys won't be in the way, though the phoenix do stay on the ground.) You can swim through this stuff like it is water, only at normal movement speed. Have ranged DPS continue to burn the Boss, but mainly, survive and heal is the most important thing to do here. Long casting spells are not ideal, due to the interruption from the DoT. Everyone else simply move around to avoid bubbles and whoever can, apply heals, especially HoT or any instant spells. Do NOT tank boss during this 10-15 second period and do NOT touch the ground! It will throw you up into the air and stun you, at which point you're likely to fall to your death when he stops the Gravity Lapse.

Phase 2b -- This is a period of perhaps 10 seconds, where the boss is stunned and prone to 150% damage. DPS the hell out of him, everyone! Druid tanks, go cat to help DPS him, since he doesn't fight back. If he's still alive after this, he goes back to Phase 2a...wash, rinse, repeat.

We wiped several times. It takes practice. He dropped epic plate boots for us... bah!

Comment by Thundergrowl

Fail, It dropps from Priestess(3rd Boss)

Comment by omlet

I had the opportunity to tank him last night and here are some things to keep in mind:

You can spell reflect his fireball which does decent damage to him and helps hold aggro

You can Shield Bash and interrupt his fireball while spell reflect is down

His melee hits are pretty weak and with Thunder Clap and Demo shout up you should have no problems with the incoming damage if are able to avoid his fireballs with Shield Bash and Spell Reflect as much as possible.

One more fairly important tip is that when he summons the phoenix you may want to move because the AOE fire damage that it does can take your life down pretty quickly so move back for a few seconds while a ranged DPS pulls and kites the phoenix then move back into melee range with Kael after the phoenix is away. You shouldn't lose aggro if you have been spell refelcting his fireballs.

The most important thing to do during gravity lapse is avoid the orbs and don't touch the ground or he will throw you back into the air and damage you. I have roughly 15000 unbuffed HP and can survive the ticks of the gravity lapse very easily as a tank so the healers should concentrate on healing those who have lower HP. The ticks were hitting me for 241 in defensive stance and if the floating orbs hit you they were doing roughly 1800 damage. As the tank during this phase I wasn't doing much just avoiding the orbs and dpsing when I could, but as prot spec that isn't anything to brag about.

When Kael is stunned after a gravity lapse he takes 50% increased damage so blow your cool downs and try and take him down before he casts it again.

Comment by Feezus

next time, try to stay grouped and clue your Shaman in to the glory that is Rank 4 Chain heal.

Comment by freddycouger

dude....

we wouldn't know what he meant. :P

Comment by freddycouger

idea came from diablo 1....

Comment by Cracked

Pyroblasted for 52k!

Comment by ricki12345

Heroic mode done by a warrior tankbe sure to reflect fire ball and interupt them the most u can. when he reache 65 % (or near ) keep reflect cooldown for his big attack ( shot me for 52 000 ) nova something. u will see him in a buble and the casting time look like 5 to 7 second so u have time to click on reflect.i didnt (so not sure u can do 52k dommage cause u reflect it ) but i died and he start the second phase ... a hunter and a healer finish the job alone.. so kinda easy if u still have the healer and a ranged dps.. and tank fire resist gear didnt work i put mine on .. (250 fire resist ) and resist 0 never ever so dont worry bout fire aura or fr gear be sure to have a ton of life cause in heroic each fire ball can hit u for 6k and he can throw 3 of them in a row.. so reflect first .. interupt second... get the third in the face... good luck

Comment by Arslaan

Kael has a 10k damage shield on Heroic mode. Cannot be dispelled. His fireballs have lower cast times and he uses them more frequently.

As a pally tank, I had to bubble up right before pyroblast hit and remove the buff asap before he killed the dps.

Comment by orcsmash

On heroic mode he will bubble and start casting pyroblast. All dps must switch to him at this point to burn down the shield and interrupt the cast, or else someone's going to get 1 shot by a 45k pyroblast.

Comment by trivas21

omg it sucked... did it over 5times and with no AoE heal... it sucks... I cant imagine heroic

Comment by Jabbaprime

Ran through a small bug on him, was drinking a super mana potion the moment he threw us all in the air, I ended up stuck on the ground while all my allies thrown up, I then got a hit similar to the one in TK and died :(

Maybe its a bug am not sure

Comment by Zunik

Did this today with a pug group, fun fight really, just make sure you kill the pheonix and the egg fast before going on Kael again, then at gravitry lapse watch out for the orbs, you will swim really fast so it wouldnt be a problem. Gravity lapse hits you for 300 every 3 sec.

Phoenix does alot of dmg aswell, if it got close to any1 they died in seconds. Can be slowed, Curse of Exhaustion worked well.

He will do a shield and begin to cast a 50.000 dmg pyroblast. The shield must be dps'd down and his Pyroblast interrupted. Our group had no interruption but Divine Shield saved me from the Pyroblast.

He will start Gravity Lapse at 50%, same as in Normal Mode.

Had our Druid, Lock and Retri Pala die at 40%. Killed him from there on with me(Protection Pala) healing and Shadow Priest dps-ing. Once u get to gravity lapse its pretty much over.

Comment by Soulanubis

Heroic:

Edit: Fireballs are unresistable. Dont worry about the FR, just do regualr tanking

Kael will cast something that looks like a Power Word: Shield, then begin to cast Pyroblast. When you see him start casting it, all dps must stop what their doing and burn through the shield, then interupt the cast with a kick/charge/earthshock (immune to a Priest's Silence).

If you can get him to phase 2 (flying phase) fast enough, then you dont have to worry about the blast.

If you dont burn it down, the blast will hit you for between 40-60k, oneshotting what is most likely your tank. I think it's probably on a timer since we've gotten it 3 of the 5 times we've done the boss, and on the 2 times we didn't get it, we use'd Bloodlust.

Side note, Untankable in phase 2, so switch to dps weapons / Catform and loot his sweet sweet epix

Comment by aasartor

For tanks, don't bother bringing your fire resistance gear on Heroic Kael'thas since his fireballs ignore resists. Kael's fireballs hit from about 5k to 6k on a bear, so it's a good idea to interrupt a few.

Comment by bickled

The trash is pretty easy. The KT fight, especially on heroic, is much harder.

Kael'thas AbilitiesFireball - Hits for 4k to 5k most of the time, it's his normal attackFlamestrike - A flamestrike that acts like a bomb, once the flame blows up it will hit players standing on it for 3k to 5k hp, taking periodic damagePhoenix - A phoenix will spawn and chases player with the highest aggro on itShield + Pyro Combo - A shield that has 10k hitpoints is placed on Kael'thas that reflects partial damage, Kael'thas will start casting a 4 second pyroblast that will one shot the target with aggro, dealing 45k to 50k damageGravity lapse + 3 orbs - Pulls everyone to Kael'thas and send them swimming in the air, increasing your movement speed but allowing 3 deadly orb to slowly follow a player, instant death if touched for more than 2 seconds because you will get zapped for 2.5k every second. The party also takes 300 damage periodically during gravity lapse

Phoenix AbilitiesPassive Flamestrike - A mini flamestrike wherever the phoenix moves, happens every 2-3 seconds and hits for 2k if you are standing on it

How to kill Kael'thas effectivelyFirst off, make sure that your party is buffed up and possibly potted with cheap buffs because DPS is vital. If you have a warlock in the group, get him to put Soulstone on the main tank.

When battle is engaged, Kael'thas will start casting fireballs at the player with the highest aggro, the tank. It can be interrupted and should be to minimise heals required.

A phoenix will spawn shortly after, you will need to get a range class to DPS it heavily to kite the phoenix while slowing it with any slow abilities. After the range class grabs aggro, he kites it around while the group starts to DPS the phoenix down, when it turns into an egg, kill it off.

If you have a druid and priest, get them to cast HoTs on every target frequently because the next part requires heavy healing. If you have a resto shaman, get everyone to stack up before gravity lapse for chain heals, paladin can cast divine shield to lessen heals required.

At around 60%, Kael'thas will activate a shield that has 10k hitpoints and reflects partial damage, doing so, he will begin casting pyroblast. There are multiple strategies to counter this but the straight forward method is to take down the shield with very heavy DPS (About 700 per person), if you feel that he is going to activate his pyro combo soon, get party to load up their bursts and interrupt the pyroblast immediately when the shield is down. Another strategy is to either Divine Shield/ Blessing of Forberence through the pyroblast if you are a prot paladin tank. You can also resurrect back up with Soulstone and rebirth after the Pyro hits. The pyroblast cannot be reflected.

Kael'thas will put you into gravity lapse mode pulling everyone to him, 3 orbs will spawn and follow a player, the party will start taking 300 damage periodically. All you have to do is distance yourself as far as possible away from the orbs and start hitting Kael'thas. When the lapse is over, he will drop you to the ground, you will have a split second to do double DPS on him while he is powerless before he starts to cast gravity lapse again.

Kael'thas will eventually die, you can enjoy your drops now.

TL;DR version

-Interrupt fireballs-Kite phoenix around and kill it-HoTs on everyone frequently, same with chain heals-DPS shield down and interrupt his pyro/ Divine Shield/ Blessing of Forberence through the pyro/ SS or Rebirth through it-Dodge the orbs in gravity lapse, DPS at max distance

Comment by Pyroshen

As a reference, I've done this 5 times on normal and once on heroic so here's some strategy tips:

- DPS kael for the first 50%, when pheonix spawns have ranged dps kill it then kill the egg quick- Avoid his flamestrike attack (he casts a fire swirly on the ground before it hits)- At 50% he'll start casting Gravity Lapse, you can still dps him here for a few more %

(Here's the best method i've found so far, makes it very easy)- During Gravity Lapse, dot him up with whatever you can then swim to the other end of the room (where you entered)- Let the orbs come at you as close as possible then fly to the other end of the room and kill him.- When you are pulling the orbs back ranged can still hit him but be careful because orbs HURT

He drops you for about 10 seconds after a bit where you can really lay dps on, he should be dead after that.

Comment by Pyroshen

As a reference, I've done this 5 times on normal and once on heroic so here's some strategy tips:

- DPS kael for the first 50%, when pheonix spawns have ranged dps kill it then kill the egg quick- Avoid his flamestrike attack (he casts a fire swirly on the ground before it hits)- At 50% he'll start casting Gravity Lapse, you can still dps him here for a few more %

(Here's the best method i've found so far, makes it very easy)- During Gravity Lapse, dot him up with whatever you can then swim to the other end of the room (where you entered)- Let the orbs come at you as close as possible then fly to the other end of the room and kill him.- When you are pulling the orbs back ranged can still hit him but be careful because orbs HURT

He drops you for about 10 seconds after a bit where you can really lay dps on, he should be dead after that.

Comment by myst44

is it possible to listen to the placeholder speech in the current patch? and if so, how.

Comment by archeronx

This one MIGHT be a bit hard. But really easy dooable if you know how. We didnt bother to read the extremly LONG explanations on how to kill it.. it was just to much to read:P Here is the easy way to explain it:

Phase 1:Start off with the tank tanking, the rest dps like hell. When the phoenix comes, all the dpsers change targets to the phoenix, then hit the egg, then do the boss. Phase 2: After a while, he casts a gravity spell, you will now "swim around" in the air above him, you can still cast spells. Swim around, avoid the energy balls. (Zoom the camera out to the max, place it above your head) Heal when needed.If you have enough dps, you can down him in the first gravity thing.

NOTE:We actually downed him in the first gravity thing, so we never had the problem with the thing he does on the ground (DOnt remember what it is:Pand his RANDOM fireball wasnt random:P It kept hitting the tank ONLY. Will test this today to check if it is random or not.

Comment by DSitC

Tactial Information:

If you manage to get him into Phase 2 you are able to kill him, as long as you have a healer alive. He will deal no damage but the DoT applied throughout the Gravity Lapse.

I, for example, was able to solo him to death as a holy priest. Just keep yourself topped of, avoid the charged spheres and dps whenever possible.

Note: If anyone dies, they are able to run back into the instance and re-join the fight. As soon as a new gravity lapse starts, all party members will be teleported into the room, no matter were they are in the dungeon. :-)

Comment by LoKHor

On heroic, he is pretty tricky. The best tactic I've found is to burn him really really fast (use all trinkets and cooldowns). This is especially doable if you have a hunter who can misdirect for that initial aggro. When the first phoenix comes, zerg it fast, kill the egg, and then go back to intensely burning down Kael'thas. If you have the dps, you will manage to get him below 50% before a. The second phoenix spawns; and b. He pops his shield and casts a pyroblast that one-shots your tank.

Once you are in the air (phase 2), swim around, avoiding the bubbles and relying on your healer to keep you up from the aoe damage that everyone takes. The damage is only 300 per tick so it should be no problem to stay alive, so long as you can avoid the orbs. Do whatever DPS you can, but the trick here is to stay alive. When you land, your trinkets should be up again and you should DPS him as hard as possible (don't waste any time). If he puts you into the air again, just repeat it: stay alive by swimming around, then do hard DPS when you land on the ground again.

Collect or disenchant your epics ;)

In response to archeronx's post: you are correct; his fireballs are not random but are aimed at the person who is highest on the aggro list - which should be the tank ><

While swimming around, it can be hard to keep up any DPS and avoid getting hit. Not every group makeup will be able to get him down in the first gravity lapse, but since he doesn't do anything nasty aside from the orbs, waiting it out and zerging once you land again is fine.

LoKHor

Comment by AeoDog

Phase one :

Stay out of fire on the ground,stay away from bird (the bird damages itself each tick - it can be kited) When bird explodes, kill egg to stop bird rebirth.... Kael at 50%? -

Phase two :

Stay off ground, Just Swim around avoiding the orbs, use Hot's Pot's HS's, hybrid tanks help heal (Kael does not need tank in phase two) Every so often Gravity debuff ends for a few seconds THEN NUKE KAEL! (repeat till he's dead)

Comment by AeoDog

Phase one :

Stay out of fire ,stay away from bird (the bird damages itself each tick - it can be kited) When bird explodes, kill egg to stop bird rebirth.... Nuke Kael to 50% -

Phase two :

Stay off ground, Just Swim around avoiding the orbs, use Hot's Pot's HS's,ranged dps, hybrid tanks help heal (Kael does not need tank in phase two) Every so often Gravity debuff ends for a few seconds THEN NUKE KAEL! (repeat till he's dead)

Comment by Aethlas

On Heroic Mode the Kael fight seemed less dificult than either the 3rd boss or even the last pack of trash before it, seems to cast ~3k fireballs while meleeing so a pally FR aura/shaman totem will be helpful. Also try to interupt or spell reflect what you can. Summons Phoenix which do aoe fire damage but move quite slowly , ranged dps need to burn them down while keeping their distance, once the phoenix dies will spawn an egg(similar to the TK version) which also needs to be burnt to prevent respawn. Flamestrikes will be cast by kael, theyre easy to see and you need to move out as soon as they spawn. At 50% kael will cast gravity lapse, giving u the ability to swim around the room, continue dpsing boss keeping at least a 20-30 yard range ( unsure exactly ) from the Arcane Orbs which will hit for a lot of arcane damage. If kael isnt downed during the 1st lapse he will stop casting and gain a 25% more damage taken debuff for ~10 seconds then recast G. Lapse

Comment by Argus9

I doubt I'm right, but does that include Pyroblast? Or does it at least serve as a way to circumvent the damage?

Comment by Argus9

I doubt I'm right, but does spell reflect work on Pyroblast? Or does it at least serve as a way to circumvent the damage?

Comment by CaptainFaith

I recently did this on heroic mode. My group wiped once during magister's terrace due to a bad trash pull. Honestly, i did not find Kael'thas to be much harder on heroic. He summoned one phoenix in all. When he shielded to do his pyro we had the shield down within 1 or 2 seconds and i(a mage) simply counterspell'd him. On gravity lapse he's the same, you just have to not be dumb and move away from the orbs. His shield seemed to have absorbed about 5-6k damage and then dissipated.

Group consisted of

Me(frost mage)Warrior(prot)Druid(feral)Priest(holy)Hunter(Marks)

The druid did a small amount of off healing but not so much that you cant do this without it.

GL!

Comment by Tamika

One small tip for tanks, at his pyroblast and groups with lack of DPS or just incase. What I did:

1. Told a healer to have me topped when Kael starts casting pyro.2. Used Shield Wall and Last Stand.3. Used Bulwark of the Ancient Kings (150 stamina, optional). Also you can use some stamina-giving-trinkets or Nightmare Seed if you don't feel confident (don't think you'll need it if you got that far into the instance).

then I received a 10k pyro while having more than 24k hp overall, party even didn't notice that.Do not "save a cooldown for a better situation" because a pyro starts at around 60% and at 50% you (tank) become useless.

...Well not that useless, if you manage to "aggro" some bubbles letting thus another ppl be more relaxed and continue DPS, remember to execute at 19% (if you get there hehe).

Good Luck!

EDIT: Spell reflect DOES NOT work on pyroblast, that's why I wiped on the first try :)

Comment by Scerloth

It's not listed under the Heroic drops for Kael'thas, but he can drop the Phoenix Hatchling on both difficulties. I've personally seen it drop in both places. Please add this to the initial boss loot post.

Comment by Drakesaerin

Heroic Mode

An lot like normal mode.

He doesn't hit very hard but his fireballs deal about 5k damage. His fireballs can be interrupted and reflected as Pyroshen stated.

His phoenixes move about twice as fast, I had the most success burning them down like on normal mode.

His only new trick is that he will put up a shield around himself and randomly target someone for a pyroblast. As far as I know burn through his shield and he'll stop casting it.

In phase two His arcane orbs move a bit faster but thats not a real problem.

If you can kill him on normal mode then your fine. Heroic mode is not a lot harder.

Comment by Toldry

The phoenixes can be easly kited on the ramp behind Kael'thas.

Comment by izac

He's changed... he looks.. undead? Hurts that we killed him, he looked way better then :0

Comment by Cerium

He dropped the enchanting formula for Boar's Speed on normal mode for me the day before yesterday.

The formula was Bind on Pickup, unlike the world drop recipe. Also got Steelweave the same run. Just thought I'd mention the Boar's Speed formula, since it's not a listed drop yet.

Comment by kauski

this is a joke after he done his pyroblast and phoenix

was hunter and healer alive after those and kael'thas around 20% health and it was very easy to nuke down

in heroic.

Comment by Vanca

Another addition to heroic strategy:According to the shaman in our group grounding totem works on the pyroblast too.

Maybe get another confirmation on this?

Comment by danleo

Does anyone know if Kael is supposed to drop a Primal Nether in Heroic Mode ?

Comment by alexiel

Random BoP patterns seem to drop off him too.

Comment by whitedragon254

He's been buffed up like i said, He now has more hp, hits a bit harder, has special heroic spells and more. WoWWiki has the info check out the tactics page for him.

Comment by Distress

How Do you deal with the 45k Pyro on Heroic if you lucking dps?

Is it reflectable by warrior spell reflect? I survived it once with shield wall + last stand but thats not way out of it ...

Comment by Distress

Some tips for low DPS groups for Kael'thas:

Soulstone the tank if you have warlock, because hes usually the one to die on pyroblast. After 50% Kael can be pretty much killed by a healer and any ranged dps. Finished heroic run where lock and paly killed boss down from about 35%.

Comment by Waterwell

The Hatching can drop in heroic mode.

Comment by Divinicus

As a warrior tank, I found that this fight is very easy if you set up a Shield Bash --> Spell Reflect rotation. You can mitigate/stop most if not all his spell dmg on you by timing this correctly. Once he's into phase two, as others have said, no worries about tanking... just spank him.

(Normal Mode)

Comment by shik

I am an extremely well geared warlock that needed to do this place on normal for the heroic key. My group was very under geared and I carried them though most of the instance. When we got to Kael, our tank(a prot pally) couldn't hold aggro for anything and I eventually ended up tanking him after a few failed attempts. One of our dps left and I put on my pvp stam gear and tanked him as if he was capernian/illidan/leotheras. Our prot pally put on healing gear and our other dps (a mage) kited the phoenix around. This was a very unconventional way of fighting him but it works if you have good healers and/or a crappy tank.

Comment by Chickenspine

Just beat Kael on Heroic!

priest as heal,druid as tank,lock, mage, and rogue as dps.

First thing, if you are surrounded by spinning fire, RUN! after 2 seconds you will die, if you do not relocate. Second, dps the first bird down, and then dps the egg even quicker. Continue to dps Kael and he will begin to cast pyroblast. Pyroblast will kill you tank, but dont worry you dont need a tank anymore. Next, with only 4 people, quickly dps the second bird and egg. By now, you should be in antigravity. Simply swim away from Orbs of Death while keeping some dps. Kael will release you from antigravity for 10 sec while he is vulnerable, again no tank is needed because he is vulnerable. Keep repeating antigravity and vulnerable stages with you remaining four players until Kael is DEAD!

Comment by gumm

i was doing this right now. the group was realy retarded,a rogue(me)shadow priest,druid(full green gear, i mean greens from quests in hellfire)holy priest,and a mage. we wiped 4 times.at the first phase just tank him down,and when he summons the pheonix egg kill it asap, i mean it. in the 2. phase if not killed it will give you dmg while in air. if oyu survive the 1. phase just stay alive

Comment by Lakki9

Sounds scripts for Kael :P

Quotes are already mentioned in this thread so ill just paste the scripts.

Comment by meccasphinxx

Heroic MgT Kael fight

@tanks that are having problems with taking down the shield during the pyroblast

If you aren't a pally (you can divine shield yourself to avoid pyroblast, simply click off the buff after it "hits") simply take the pyroblast as close to 50% as possible, while making sure the bird has been killed, as well as the egg that spawns after the bird, you will die, and that's fine, a prot warrior or feral druids dps/heals will be almost useless anyway, so simply die, encourage the 3 dps and healer to continue on and assure them it's easy-mode as long as they stay in LoS of the healer and don't touch the ground or the orbs

Comment by meccasphinxx

Heroic MgT Kael fight

@tanks that are in a group having problems taking down the shield during the pyroblast

If you aren't a pally (you can divine shield yourself to avoid pyroblast, simply click off the buff after it "hits") simply take the pyroblast as close to 50% as possible, while making sure the bird has been killed, as well as the egg that spawns after the bird, you will die, and that's fine, a prot warrior or feral druids dps/heals will be almost useless anyway, so simply die, encourage the 3 dps and healer to continue on and assure them it's easy-mode as long as they stay in LoS of the healer and don't touch the ground or the orbs

feel free to add anything else

Comment by diode

he drops Haste Potion recipe

Comment by Asesit

The best tactic I found for this stage was to have your entire group "swim" to the front of the room where the door is, cast some DoT's/HoT's/Direct Damage spells and when the orbs get close everyone swim to the front and left side of the room, repeat damage. Then move to the back, repeating damage, then to the other side of the room. Always staying ahead of the orbs. By now the Gravity Lapse is over and you have about 10 seconds to DPS Kael hard before he casts the Gravity Lapse again.

During Phase 2 (50% Health), Kael'Thas can be soloed as a Affliction Warlock. I've done it, in normal difficulty, using that strategy. To add some more details, be sure to have your Healthstone and Health Potion, as well as your imp out for Dark Pact. As soon as Kael casts Gravity Lapse, 'swim' to the room's entrance, and while doing so throw your instant DoTs. Once there, while you wait for the orbs, cast Unstable Affliction and start to Drain Life. When the orbs get close, swim to one side of the room and then to the back, and then to the other side of the room, and then back to the entrance (while renewing your dots). At each of these four points (entrance, left side, back, right side), be sure to Drain Life (so that Kael's dot doesn't kill you).Use Dark Pact to recover mana, and if you really need to: use your Potion (yes the potion first), and if you need again use the Healthstone (that way you're be able to heal a 3rd time if the potion's cooldown is already gone. When Kael stops the Gravity Lapse, trinket and start casting Shadow Bolts, and be sure to renew your DoTs, but always keeping an eye on your mana and health (if you need health, Drain Life instead; for mana, Dark Pact)This doesn't require "great" gear, but just good strategy and be able to keep an eye on your health to not be killed by Kael's DoT.

Comment by Vim0

On Heroic MagT tonight he dropped a BOP JC recipe: Runed Living Ruby

Comment by Lorebreaker

I've noticed that Kael only seems to cast Pyroblast if the Phoenix lives too long. I don't have an exact timer for it but it's something to keep in mind.

Comment by aluxendr

Just attempted him on heroic difficulty. We could not down him, and stopped after 5 wipes simply because we were done trying to do something useless.

Group makeup:

Prot Warr, T4/Kara, some SSC GearsRogue in Kara EpicsLock in Kara/SSC EpicsPriest in Kara/SSC EpicsRet Pally in Kara/S1 Glad Epics (Me, and BTW its entirely possible up to here with this group makeup)

His Phoenix is pretty much the same as normal, a little more damage (2k-2300ish) on his aoe, but easily doable by intelligent people (read: not a PUG). His main attack, the Fireballs, went as follows:

-Hit our 15000hps tank for about 5k per-Was definitely resisted once according to combat logs (Dodged maybe?)-Can be reflected by a warr/kicked by a rogue-Cannot be Spell Lock'd by lock pet

After the first Phoenix, he casts Pyroblast, which hits for like 40k+. We tried burning through this "shield" thing that we read about and couldn't. Seems ridiculous that there is a freaking "gear check" requiring T5+ when the epics he drops aren't that level of gear. Also:

-Cannot be Spell Reflected by a warrior -Cannot be interrupted by Spell Lock, Kick, Shield Bash (at least during shield)-Cannot be LOS'd. After slowly dragging him over to the left of the stairs and waiting for the pyro, our tank ran behind the wall there and Kael pyroed her through it. Evidently, the laws that apply to everything else in this game don't apply to this pyro.

So evidently Blizzard finally found a way to make everyone really really love paladin tanks; make it so you have to take one into their new dungeon. Or be in T6.

Comment by Hyperstalker

I have noticed that kael seems to drop a plan/patter/recipe of some sort each kill on heroic.. It is BoP but the plan/pattern/recipe was perviously avaible as a BoE.. First kill gotten - VitaitySecond - healing potion injector

Comment by piggybox

First, thanks to all of comments above with valuable info. We got him in heroic mode last night.

Timing on the pyro is tricky for the tank, but we figured out that sacrifying our tank is ok. Also if we dps hard enough to burn him quickly down to 50% from about 65% when he begins casting pyro, we can avoid pyro at all, but managing threat can be hard in doing so.

After the pyro, he's pretty weak as long as we can dodge those orbs properly (otherwise suffering 2k dmg/sec/orb). We found swimming to the door can buy us more space.

Having said that, this battle is kinda luck based. There were several times he summoned a phoenix right before entering the swiming phase then wiped us.

Comment by J5Sweet

I've done this two times now on heroic and he is definitely one of my favorite encounters. I've found that if your DPS is really good you wont even see the pyroblast in heroic.

There are two ways that I have found that works with this boss:

1. If your DPS is subpar, it is worth stopping dps 60% and wait for the second phoenix, kill it... kill the egg... then drop him below 50%. You don't want to be in the air when the second phoenix is up, it just becomes another thing to dodge and screws you up when you get the free dps time after the gravity lapse.

2. If your DPS is really strong, I've seen him drop below 50% before he gets a pyroblast or a second phoenix. This is significantly better because it is significantly less to worry about.

In either situation, I have found that the best way to deal with KT when he is gravity lapsing is to have everyone run to the back of the room, wait for the bubbles to float near to you, then sneak around them toward him and do damage to him. The gravity lapses are survival times, not damage times. After the gravity lapse completes he goes into a weakened state and cannot attack back for a few seconds. At this point DPS should be full tilt.

Fire resistance is good, but don't gear for it, its only about 4-5k damage every few seconds and a tank should easily have enough HP to take that if you are this far into the instance. Fire resist aura was enough to toss up a few resists...His melee is weak... ~800-900 on plate.

Comment by PsychoDikdik

I fought him last night on Heroic, and we wiped 4 times on the pyro. So on our 5 try our Shaman popped Heroism right after the tank got aggro, and we got him to 50% so fast that he didn't even get to cast pyro or the second phoenix, and from there its pretty much cake.

Group makeupProtection WarriorFire Mage X2Elemental ShamanHoly Priest

And the Hawkstrider dropped, which was a nice prize for our effort.

Comment by Varth

One more addition to heroic strategy:

If phoenix is alive during gravity lapse, it will stop moving and instead spam fireballs. Dunno if this is true on normal too.

Comment by lordofthedice

Just down Kael'thas on Heroic for the first time. We had quite a few problems with him, the worst of which was the Pyroblast. The Pyroblast is not reflectable with a warrior's Spell Reflect. It hits for 40K and therefore is instant death to anyone it hits. The normal way to avoid this is to nuke Kael'thas as fast as possible to get his shield down and then interrupt the spell. We had problems with doing this before time ran out. So, what we did was we had our Warlock put a Soulstone on the tank and made the tank eat the Pyroblast while the ranged DPS handled the Pheonixes. The Pyroblast hit, tank popped and reestablished aggro. Was able to keep the group alive for the second phase. After this it is a easy task of keeping away from the bubbles and DPSing Kael'thas down. The swimming to the entrance and then around the bubbles works very well here.

Comment by Fujitsi

As tank, this is how i dealed with the Pyro on heroic:

Due to lack of dps, I popped shieldwall and last stand when he started casting his pyroblast.This way, the pyroblast only hit for 10k. Immediatly after it hit, I used a healthpot, a Healthstone, and one of those Depleted crystal foci from BeM.

Hope this helps :D

Comment by firewulf

An interesting note on the patterns he drops: They're Bind on Pickup, not the normal versions.

Comment by GenXCub

Just to add my $.02

On normal difficulty, the group was Bear tank, pally healer, mage, mage, shadow priest (I played mage). I found that just me on phoenix duty was not the best use of the time, because by the time I was trying to kill the egg, we'd be at 50% and Gravity Lapse would make me unable to finish off the egg before hatching.

When the shadow priest and I killed the phoenix and egg, it allowed the both of us to go back to dps on Kael and made the fight cake (using the 'swimming' rotation above).

Comment by Minxette

I have done this a number of times with strong melee groups : 1 tank, 2 melee dps, 1 ranged dps and 1 healer.

The ranged dps should have enough dps to take out the bird and egg solo. When the phoenix spawns DO NOT fully kill him, take him down to about 10% and continue to kite until Kael is on 70% then kill the phoenix and the egg. In this respect a second phoenix wont spawn prior to the 50% gravity phase.

Also Kael is susceptable kick, however he is immune to cheapshot and kidney shot.

In Gravity Phase (2) with a melee heavy group just use your ranged weapons in the air and go all out dps when back on the ground. It should take 2-3 rotations before he is dead.

Rogues can also cloak of shadows through the phoenix's aoe damage and through some of the gravity damage.

Comment by Agham

Comment by conneich

The awesome of the awesome! Just killed Kael'Thas! What makes it awesome? Im a Resto Druid, on phase 2 all party had died but me, I solo'd him to 10% then party popped into instance and ported to him to finish him off! Resto Druid FTW! No frap though, happened too quickly >.<

But let it be known, if you have a good running and you die while fight, during phase 2 you will be ported from the entrance of the instance to Kael'Thas' room!

Comment by Cillus

Interestingly, if you die during the fight and someone can stay alive long enough, during phase 2 our group was able to run back into the instance and his Gravity Lapse summoned us straight into the boss room and we were able to finish him off without technically wiping. If anyone ever sees a druid named Conneich on Shadow Council, be sure and tell her how awesome she is!

Edit: I was unclear in my post originally but, this only works on normal mode.

Comment by Bladescope

It is possible on normal mode to have a Warlock solo phase 2.Using spells like Drain Life and Siphon Life heals the player through the damage, while they can DoT and avoid the orbs. They can then use the free time on the floor to nuke or Life Tap.

The only major problem a lot of groups encounter is the fact that they may get a stray pheonix just before the second phase. it's caused many wipes, because the pheonix will cast fireballs which ignore Line of Sight if your party is in the air.

Comment by Shornaal

I obviously did not read all those 100 posts before me, but let me say a couple things that i noticed on heroic.

First, a dps+healer is more than enough to kill him in phase 2, not sure an affl warlock could do in solo, but i did coupled with a druid and all went REALLY easy.

The other and maybe more important thing is about his shield. If the warlock in your gruop casts "Curse of Doom" immediately after the pull, it will detonate on the shield, almost deleting it with one shot (with 1000spelldmg my amplified one did 8700 the time i timed it too late, so if timed correctly takes out a large amount of the shield).

I hope this helps. (and thanks Kael for dropping your cloth chest at first try)

Comment by Baek

Something I thought about after giving this encounter a shot the first time. Since you are "swimming," would a swim speed potion make you move even faster in the second phase? I understand a health pot or mana pot would be better to use in this phase, but I can't help but wonder. If it does work and the game mechanics as if you are in the water, it would be possible to wait untill the last possible second, use the pot, zoom up and accross the room in half the time to get a little more DPS time in. Just more out of curiousity and if anyone has/could try it just for grins and giggles I would be interested in knowing if it has the same mechanics as swimming in water.

Comment by blasasin

How to get to this terrace?

Comment by blasasin

where i could find this Magisters' terrace?

Comment by Shornaal

Healthstone and those crystals from Blade's Edge share the same cooldown, can't understand how did you do that.

EDIT: and i can't understand why this received a negative rating. Those share the same cooldown, checked on this site.

Comment by Venara

Heroic Mode:

Kael will only cast a pyroblast if you don't manage to dps him to 50% quickly. I can't get a clear timer, but we tried it a few times (wipes for testing purposes!) and he definitely never casts a pyroblast if you manage to get him to 50% / P2 about 2-3 minutes after the fight starts. If it takes you longer than those 2-3 minutes he will cast a pyroblast and kill your tank (if it happens *not* to be a paladin).

We did it with T5/6 equipped people (Prot Warrior, Balance Druid, Fire Mage, Enhancement Shaman and me as a Holy Priest). With this equip its probably pretty easy getting him down to 50% in time. I think people who just hit 70 with blue gear will not be able to do it without a pyroblast.

Venara

Comment by Miranger

I havent tried this in heroic yet but i was wondering does 300+ FR help or would be more helpful for a feral since basically his melee is nothing and the only thing that hits us is the fireball (plus pyro)

Comment by Tanthelas

Anyone else think this dork should drop a primal nether on heroic?

Comment by gsmooth

Just finished this run on my healadin. after 6 separate attempts and many hundred golds in repair. one completed it with a group consisting of one 1 undead warrior + 1 holy pally (me) and 3 warlocks. DoTs FTW!!!!

Comment by Quartermain

You do NOT need a pally tank for Heroic mode!

DPSing through the shield can be a hella pain in the ass, especially if he drops a Flamestrike right before he does it. But a Warrior can pop Shield Wall and Last Stand and survive.

Of course you can only do this once every 30 mins, so be sure to kill him.

Hope this helps, sure did for us.

Comment by Kciroj

During Phase 2 (50% Health), Kael'Thas can be soloed as a Affliction Warlock.

I can confirm this. I even did it on heroic mode as an SL/SL warlock. Dark Pact is not mandatory (of course it helps a lot to avoid having you sacrifice health for mana). Had to use my healthstone when I kept draining a bit too long and an orb came too close, and used a pot and a charged crystal focus later on when my health got a bit too low. You can however easily heal yourself to full by draining when he's weakened. It took a while, but I managed to convince my party that warlocks are overpowered once again.

I'd like to add that this is of course not a main strategy when dealing with Kael. Your party is not supposed to die if they interrupt the pyro, kill the bird/egg and stay alive during gravity lapse, but if your entire party gets killed off and you're the remaining warlock... try it.

Comment by Elminstar

a little further adding to the "how Kael lived" saga it turns out if you are in dawnstar village up the ramp of one of the buildings ( the south-westernern most one ) and there is a summoner and a blood knight there they will occasionally go through a scripted event where they say about how Kael actually survived it. apparently the Priestess boss from MgT came along and healed him as he lay there dying, i just found this little bit while i was doing the Taking the Harbour daily quest thought it might be of interest to someone

Comment by Afotai

Well this doesn't work. It will give you an error "can't enter when encounter is in progress", and you'll remain outside the instance.

So this is utterwaste and completely retarded to do (I found out the hardway, and had no chance on the loot)

Comment by HenryGrant

Some tips for Pallies and mages in Phase 2.

Pally can cast bubble and focus healing on your group members.

Mages can Ice Block to lessen the healing pressure.

Also, If you become Invulnerable(bubble or Ice Block) while the boss is casting Gravity Lapse, you will not be tossed up and will stay on ground instead. By doing so, you will not suffer from the continuing damage, but you still have to dodge the flowing balls when comes out from your bubble or Ice Block. So it's not recommended unless your healer is dead or oom.

Comment by g0dslay3r

Theres a question Im wondering for Heroic, I know his Pyroblast can be interrupted, but can it be Spell Reflected?

Comment by Cillus

You were probably trying it in heroic mode where if you die, you're not allowed back in until the boss battle is done. I was doing it on regular, sorry for not specifying, but you're also at fault for assuming I was feeding you some BS.

Comment by Yseangwen

Anyone know if his pyroblast is reflectable?

Comment by Kretenizam

Well we managed to bring him down to 25% & then 4 of us died & only a holly pala remained alive & he managed to bring him down on his own ....well it took him about 7-8 mins to do so but HE DID IT ! (on heroic)

Comment by Kaaosa

For all the warlocks out there, you can make this fight trivial in the heroic version. His shield pops up exactly 60 seconds into the encounter. Curse of Doom right after your tank pulls and your CoD will take care of most, if not all, of his shield, allowing for easy interrupts.

Comment by lazaro398

You can't change your weapon on combat stance remember?

Comment by kauski

paladin tank can bubble the pyroblast, also if nuke enought fast he wont even do pyroblast.

also the adds will start shooting fire balls at second phase doing 1-2k fire damage

its a joke when its phase 2

pyroblast cant be spell reflected

suggested 2 guys to kill first bird and egg, every caster should be killing bird if there is one in phase 2

birds can be slowed

Comment by Java

Heroic Mode:

If your tank is a feral druid as it is my case, I just asked a mage to go as close as possible to my agro, and once the Pyroblast was close (about 58% boss hp), he passed my agro.

The pyro should be absorbed by Iceblock, although he wasn't able to do it in time, but you can always use your rezz-in-combat.

Hope it helps.

Comment by Brunomedia

wow in this state kael'thas has much less mana and health

Comment by raptorman3054

Anyone know if Intervene, if timed properly, can work? Or mocking blow?

Comment by ralloz

I would just like it to be known, on this day, April 19th 2008 at 11:50 PM EST Kael was 2 manned Phase 2 down (3 manned from beginning) by a Feral Druid, 20/0/41 sub rogue, and holy priest.

Comment by jshcrtmcd

We did Priestess Delrissa, the trash before Kael and Kael himself without a tank (on heroic) very easily. Our group build was Holy Priest, Shadow Priest, Mage, Warlock and a Hunter. None of us were beyond T4 gear. For Kael, we just enslaved a Sister of Torment on the trash pull before him (I'm not sure if she's always there), had her tank to 50% and burnt him down fast, probably one of the fastest attempts I've ever seen. So if your tank leaves you for any of the last two boss fights, don't freak out, with the right group makeup (a lock would be mandatory), you don't need them.

Comment by Nahela

Tanked as an Enhancement Shaman on Heroic. Very easy. Just wore PVP gear and his melee was only hitting for around 1000-1100 without a shield on. Fireballs only hit for around 4-5k max.

Just a nifty tidbit of info for anybody that's after the mount like me and ends up tanking the first three bosses on a different character :P

Comment by pripetko

The best and easiest way to kill him is to go with a Rogue as a tank and let the real tank switch to DPS gear as Kael's fireballs are the only real threat.

The good things about it are that the Rogue has cloak of shadows to prevent fireballs from hitting him if he's on low HP and if he is Subtlety he will have 2 evasions(30 seconds of "invulnerability") and this must be enough to put the boss in 2nd phase. Also you shouldn't care about the Pyroblast because the Rogue will just Cheat Death it :)

The bad thing is only that the Rogue must be well-equipped so he can hold agro but if other DPS from the group use threat-reduction abilities it shouldn't be a problem.

I'm a Rogue myself and I've tanked this boss several times and there were no problems with it.

Comment by whitedragon254

Im actually surprised he still uses normal fire moves. I would have thought that he would use a fel fireball and fel flamestrike since he's with the leigon now and all. He can be tough if your group doesnt know what they are doing. make sure you swim away during the gravity lapse. Resistances do nothing against his fireballs. Make sure you have a paladin because their divine shield can save you from it. Keep your tank well defended and make sure they dont get hit by orbs. A paladin tank is actually a good idea you can save your self a group with one of them. If you have any hunters make sure their pets are on passive for certain parts of this fight (gravity lapse for example) unless you want them running to their death and wasting themselves.

Comment by ScarCrow

I don't get it...why did Kil'jaeden use the crystal u can see in Kael's heart to ressurect him and not Illidan ? He was tired of his failures or what ?

Comment by nohutcu

there is a cool way to get rid of that absorbing shield prevents interrputs on pyro.. it will pop up in 1 minute after the combat starts.. so just get a warlock with u to put curse of doom at the exact beginng (amphly if possble) So by the time Kael pops the shield Curse of Doom will deal high amount of damage so either shield will be destroyed (depending on the lock being affliction) or will be weakened, in a very short period of time

Good luck :)

Comment by Amrod314

This boss is a walk in the park. On herioc, I was a holy paladin healing in PvP S1 gear and we had a protection tank. However the tank DC'd for over 10 minutes and so everyone was just about to give up, but really who gives up at the end boss?

So we got a holy priest in and I slapped on abit more Stamina and I easily kept aggro. With both myself and the priest spam healing me I survived his nukes and i even tanked the pheonixs at the same time. (bubbled on the pyroblast also)

We got him down after the second gravity lapse with everyone alive and the entire party on vent laughing.

So yer, next to the first boss in the dungeon i'd say Kael is the second easiest.

Comment by QDraw

Just took him down about 20 minutes ago on Normal.Easy as pie.

Setup:Prot WarriorHoly PriestMM HunterFrost MageSub Rogue

The whole instance requires good CC. Without it, Fail.

Killed Kael first time with only 2 deaths.AND it was a PuG.

Just this simple fact is enough to prove he isn't hard at all on Normal.Have not attemped Heroic yet.But will do soon :)

Also, confirm most of the Above (Reflect, Inturrupts etc.)

Comment by l33tohs

he vaugly looks like Alexi Liaho from Children Of Bodom, at least i think so

Comment by Backwards

The green crystal embedded in Kael'thas' chest is a reference to the shrapnel embedded in Tony Starks' chest, AKA Ironman

Comment by Pheonixis

When I killed him yesterday on heroic in patch 2.4.2, he did drop a nether like all other last bosses in heroic. Dunno if that was an intended change in 2.4.2 or something.

Comment by Callmedeath

Actually, for heroic mode there is a very funny stategy for warrior tanks.. I had around 16300 hp and i poped shield wall + last stand just before the pyro, so i was able to survive :) try it

Comment by juklol9

Kael in the first stage in the battle spawn phoenixes.After you killed the phoenix also remeber destroy the if, because if you not the phoenix will be reborn.When Kael make Gravity Lapse try to avoid the mana bubbles, because it can hurt a lot.

Comment by drahcir100

It is no longer possible to re-enter the instance while the kael fight is in progress. I released to run back and help get him down, since only the tank and healer were up, but was unable to enter.

Comment by Vrukh

I was able to re-enter tonight. Everyone except our priest died, and he survived long enough that I was able to run back in. Then I was summoned back to Kael when he used the gravity lapse spell and we were able to kill him.

Comment by Thorgred

Just in case anyone was under the impression that the Pheonix is a fire elemental: it's not.Phoenix can be damaged with fire abilities.

Comment by Virxz

In heroic he starts cast pyroblast after 1 minute, so warlocks can use Curse of Doom to break shield

Comment by Razzle

When we fought Kael when patch 2.4 was released our group completely wiped accept our healer. Our lucky day, healer finished him when he was at 10% hp.

Comment by SovietWaffle

Fun fact for all you shaman out there, regardless of spec. A Fire Elemental totem at the beginning of the fight can easily survive to the end, without any heals on it. The entire time you're floating in the air, the totem itself is whacking Kael, I'm not sure why, but it works (The elemental may have recieved heals during the first phase, but not once during Gravity Lapse)

Comment by Infuria

fyi after 50 %, any healer can solo him. so if you're a healer, just don't die.

Comment by Viper23rd

I highly suggest bringing an enhancement or elemental shaman to the fight.Our healer yesterday was mediocre geared and if it wasn't for the shaman I wouldn't have made it (I'm a Paladin tank).

The shaman kept using grounding totems and earth shocks for the fireballs, thereby minimizing the damage Kael'Thas inflicted on me.I highly recommend it!

Thaelarion

Comment by metaknight

on normal mode, he also drops a JC cut, which makes Solid Star of Elune. :)

Comment by Colamisu

Fairly certain touching the ground during gravity lapse does not do extra damage, unless it's some minuscule number that could be mistaken for an extra tick of the lapse.

Comment by catspats31

Once patch 2.4.3 is released, Kael'thas Sunstrider can be taunted. Also, Kael'thas' Arcane Sphere has had its visual size increased. His Arcane Sphere attack has had its range decreased and the damage per second of phase two on normal mode has been decreased. The heroic mode damage per second of phase two will remain at 300 arcane damage per second.

Comment by Rogabr

Blessing of Forberence through the pyro.

Lol.

Comment by sasexw

If you have warrior tank he can use shield wall and last stand and survive the pyroblast

Comment by omajia

So yeah we did a Heroic mgt and we got to the final boss. I am a lvl 70 resto druid and when we were fighting the last boss my group died at 51% with a Phoenix up. So i thought i was dead so i just moonfire spammed and got him to 50%. Then i ended up soloing him from 51% to 10% then my battle rez got done with its CD. So i Brezed the hunter and me and him killed kael. I used innervate 3 times. It is the easiest but longest fight ever. So even with a Phoenix up u can still solo him.

Comment by LatroVir

Well... you mean is it the same guy that voices Raiden in MGS2: Sons of Liberty, and MGS4: Guns of the Patriots.

And yes, Quinton Flynn also happens to voice Kael'Thas for the Burning Crusade.

Comment by Xoncide

I've heard a lot of people complain about this fight in heroic as a druid tank, because warriors can last stand + shield wall and pallys can bubble to survive the pyroblast.

This is definitely doable as a druid tank if you have a rogue or a mage in your group and the omen addon.

Basically what you need to do is keep the mage (or rogue) right bellow the tanks threat (within 2-3 thousand), and when he starts to cast pyroblast you have the tank immediately stop building up threat and said mage or rogue burst - this will change his pyroblast target to the rogue or mage who can iceblock or CLoS it.

Comment by Cotep

The Phoenix's are immune to stuns.

Comment by TaliaMokani

Mages can avoid the gravity lapse with a well-timed iceblock. Stay on the higher platform near the door, not down the steps, and you avoid getting pulled in, don't get the debuff, and don't get floor damage. You can dps at will without having to worry about swimming around and avoiding any orbs, save for those that stray a little close to the ground.

Comment by aikouka

As a note, the Phoenix that Kael'thas spawns is not immune to fire. I haven't tried this on heroic, but I have on normal. Let me tell you, it's quite amusing to watch a shaman's Fire Elemental fight the Phoenix because the Phoenix cannot hurt the elemental.

Comment by Deadlythrow

Wow, what a complete slap in the face for feral druid tanks. Pallies and warriors both have tricks to avoid dieing to the pyroblast while bears just get blown into a million furry pieces. Thanks Blizz.

Comment by Jawnin

As a resto shaman, I always start the fight with fire elemental and then I bloodlust once Kael gets down to about 90%.

Phase 1, especially in heroic mode, is your biggest threat.

Phase 2 is easy mode if people know how to dodge orbs.

Comment by Adross

A small glitch was discovered by my group today and I would just like to bring attention to it and see if it is repeatable by another group or was it a one time glitch.

On the fight when he begins his Gravity Lapse our Priest was wanding Kael'thas and in turn when we all were tossed into the air the Priest was not. He remained on the ground and was not taking periodic damage. He would still be hurt by the bubbles.

We tried this on the subsequent Gravity Lapse's and we were able to recreate it. He was wanding from about the stairs and would start doing it a bit before or as Kael'thas was casting Gravity Lapse.

EDIT: I have tried it again but this time I asked a mage to wand before he started casting. He was able to stay on the ground once but other times he could not do it. I asked him to do it before it was casted and also while it was casted. It worked when he started wanding as Kael'thas was casting Gravity Lapse.

Comment by forthechoir

I just ran it in heroic and while I'm not absolutely sure, I think my group DPSed him to stage 2 before he was able to Pyroblast, because I wasn't hit by it at all while tanking. Can someone test this?

Comment by Fwibbles

If you noticed, he has 2 orbs floating around him instead of three, as you took one from him when you beat him in TK.

Comment by Drajanuma

If you're having trouble burning down the shield and your warrior tank is dying to the Pyroblast in Heroic Mode, there's 2 ways to go:

-Have your tank Shield Wall the pyroblast. He'll take around 10k dmg, and the 10-15 secs on shield wall will give the healer enough time to top the tank off. If needed, pop Last Stand as well to give more time to the healers.

-Have the group burn down Kael as FAST as possible through the first phase, from 100% to 50%. There's a good chance you'll get him to 50% before he casts the pyroblast, or at least you'll have him close enough so the loss of the tank (who is almost useless on phase 2) won't cause a wipe.

There is a risk on option 2 though: He might actually bring out a phoenix right before he hits 50%, in which case the group will be hard-pressed to kill it during the gravity lapse, so use with caution.

Comment by Zasher

I did this as my PvP spec (ShS) Rogue with Cheat Death. We had a druid tank. Our group was having a little trouble taking down his shield and interrupting him, so we changed our strat up a bit.

I was the one tanking him. And if we could not take down his shield and interrupt him, I would eat his pyroblast via Cheat Death, and then get healed up right away. Worked rather well.

Just a tip if any ShS rogues are in your group and you find yourself having some trouble.

Comment by squigglylines

It doesn't matter if the tank dies to the pyroblast. They'll do very little damage during phase 2 anyway, and that phase is tankless. I wouldn't be surprised at all if you could have a high health DPSer tank him assuming your healer is on their game; I'll see if I can get a group to try it.

A holy pally I know soloed him from 30% with Hammer of Wrath. He said it took 15 minutes and 4 mana pots.

A shadow priest's VE is enough to heal through basically all of phase 2. I've beaten the main healer with VE several times on this fight. Mind Flay is also great to slow the Phoenix and half kite it. I think it's fearable too.

Comment by Tigerraven

Has no one tried to spellsteal his kael's sheild on the heroic fight?

Can't say with complete certainty but i believe it can be stolen, I used spellsteal moments before pyroblast went off and because of gcd didn't have time to counterspell, so it went off. It happened so fast that I can't say 100% that it works but it's very likely. We wiped on that run and the next one we dps'd him harder so he didn't use pyroblast. Our succesfull strat was as follows.

Tank-Warrior Dps - 2 mage and a lock healer priest

Tanks used his spell reflect early in the flight flinging kael's fireballs back at him, after his reflect wore off I counterspelled what i could and he sheild bashed. Our other mage was kiting and killing the phoenix when the egg popped up I dps'd the egg and then we went back to work on kael. Lock was doing straight dps on kael. And the priest used it's dots and hots.

Second phase we did what everyone does dps while we're in the air moved away from the balls had a grand old time.

Comment by battyboy

My understanding is he has a chance to drop BoP recipes that are normally BoE and its random...this correct?

edit: reason i ask is because i would like to get the solid star of elune. but if he randomly drops all recipes than ill prolly just buy it.

Comment by Zaan3

I am Iron Man, I am, I am, I am Iron man

lol, sorry, couldn't resist

Comment by Souzo

I know Kael's fireballs can be spell reflected. What about the pyroblast? Nobody's mentioned reflecting that.

Comment by reidsb

Fire Resist doesn't seem to do anything here.

Comment by YesIPlayWow

very easy fight, we got him down to 50% before he could use pyroblast and killed him just before the second gravity lapse (no melee dps though. way easier then the priestess

Comment by Tankadinpewpew

Some how, I find it amazing he could survive so long after the beating we gave him. He is not very hard in my opinion, just need a geared group.

His quotes: (yes all of them)

Wow, that sucked. Oh well let's try again.

When Kael'thas' room is cleared:

Don't look so smug! I know what you're thinking, but Tempest Keep was merely a set back. Did you honestly believe I would trust the future to some blind, half-night elf mongrel? Hahahaha... Oh no, no, no, he was merely an instrument, a stepping stone to a much larger plan! It has all led to this...and this time, you will not interfere!

Casting Flamestrike:

Felomin ashal!

Summoning a phoenix:

Vengeance burns!

Casting Gravity Lapse:

I'll turn your world...upside...down.

Tiring:

Master, grant me strength."

Recasting Gravity Lapse:

Do not get...too comfortable.

Death:

My demise accomplishes nothing! The Master will have you! You will drown in your own blood! The world shall burn! Aaaghh!

PS: The music is epic :P

Comment by pa4o4o

For all those who are impressed and easilly moved by lore drama....I believe Kael still had good in him. The moment me and the party i was in downed him, something changed the game entirely for me.

Comment by Sandos

Comment by Thekor

Completed FLAWLESSLY tonight.I tanked this as a warrior in Kara/ZA Gear.

Phase 1:Used spell reflect every time it was up, used shield bash when it wasn't.Mage kited and killed Phoenix

TANKED the PYROBLASTUsed Last Stand + Shield wall.The Pyro only hit for 16500 and I had a total of 21000 HP so there was no problem

Phase 2:G-lapse I was pretty much useless so I intercepted around to take a few hits for others while DPS killed him

Comment by Saecula

Did Kael'thas today on heroic mode and with dps the way it is now, we were able to get him to 50% before he ever cast his pyroblast. Very easy kill.

Comment by maddodggz

he is not easy to kill =(

Comment by Thrakin

I'm just waiting for the first "Solo'd at 80" posts to come.

Comment by TheAmadaun

I, Amadaun of Hellscream, soloed this at 80 on normal mode, after soloing all of Magister's Terrace up to that point. I was a DK in DPS gear and spec, without the Death Strike Glyph. The entire key to soloing this is phase 1 - namely, avoiding death by phoenix while getting him into phase 2. What I did was hit and run - I beat on him in Frost Presence until he spawned a phoenix, then once the phoenix got on me I started using my defensive cooldowns as I kited the phoenix away and back to him, whittling down his health to 50% and bringing him into p2. The phoenix was still alive at this point, so I smacked it from a distance with IT and Death Coil while dodging orbs and trying not to die to lightning. When it went into an egg, I burned all my offensive cooldowns to destroy it, and from there the fight was easy.

Also - if Army of the Dead is up, the fight is an utter joke. The first time I went to MrT, AotD was on cooldown from Princess. The second time (farming for phoenix pet), I had it available, used it, and was amazed at how easy the fight was. I took no damage in p1 and he went to p2 without casting a single flame strike or phoenix. It was like a cakewalk, except the cake had been stolen from a baby using as many clichés about ease and simplicity as exist in this world.

Comment by Angelcrusher

Below is a logical deduction for the damage requirements to defeat Kael'Thas in Heroic mode (be it solo or in a group):

1. Kael'Thas has 236,120 HP2. Kael'Thas will cast Pyroblast after 60 seconds3. Kael'Thas will NOT cast Pyroblast if brought below 50% HP in under 60 seconds.

DPS = ( ( 236,120 / 2 ) / 60 ) ~= 1968

NOTE: This assumes you can survive his damage output.

Good luck to all. Hope this helps!

- Angelcrusher

Comment by sick4paradise

Soloed as an 80 Prot Warrior. It wasn't easy, but it was very epic.

Comment by okinyo

Having no head was a mere set-back!

Comment by Alcest

80 mage here, about to attempt it. Will post my specc and loot if I get lucky :D

Comment by Gusstavv

After 3 wipes, i can say its soloable (not easly) by a Feral Drood on T7.5 tank gear on Heroic Mode.The trick is to DPS him really hard to 50% (tanked him on kitty form). If u DPS him real fast, he will not have time to cast the pyroblast (40-50k hits were the problem).If u get him near 50% and he had a chance to summon a phoenix, go bear form, and glyphed-maul + berserk + mangle phoenix to kill it fast and still keep doing damage to Kael (you can enrage/survival instincts/frenzy regen to heal ur self while DPSing in bear). I went Bear because i was already at 40% and Phoenix fire aura was doing lots of damage in Kitty form. Keep doing it until you destroy the egg too. After that, DPS again kael, and when he reaches 50% you will be up to the air. Easy phase comes next:While in the air, go away from him, and heal yourself (if you have low mana pool, keep an eye so u wont drain it and not be able to shapeshift). Watch for orbs. After you heal, go bear to minimize Aura damage he keeps doing and dodgeballz.When you land, charge him, go kitty, and DPS him. Leave as many DOTs you have. Then he will put you up in the air again. Rinse and repeat. Watch him bleed to death while you are healing yourself in the air.Enjoy ñ_ñ.

Comment by MaclimesZ

I guess he didn't make it...

Comment by Biane

I found this fight easier than the Priestess. It is the tactics as Gussstavv said above for those ferals attempting to solo him.

One thing i would love to add is that this isnt a tanking boss (because of the pyroblast), so swap out those tank gear u're wearing for some dps ones so that he downs faster. Only pop bear form when u have the phoenix on you or u'll loose way too much dps to down him in time. Use all ur CDs at the start as the second phase is !@#$ easy.

Comment by ceemeeir

Normal SoloLVL: 80Class: DruidSpec: FeralTac:Kite the phoenixes, don't try to kill them. Burn your cds at the start, so later you might be able to use them again. You must get him down to 85K hp as fast as possible, because Phase2 is a lot more easier (,I got to fullhp and mana during it).When you see a phoenix die, go there and kill the egg.Charge interrupt his casts, or use the statues as LOS interruptIn phase2: Kill all phoenixes that left, and be patient. Dmg him when fly phase ends.

Comment by snooch

anyone know if he is solo-able once you hit 80?

Comment by rasspo

did a heroic run just now

got the hatchling, jei

first two bosses are a joke of course, priestess and co i did by leaving a mage-guard alive from one of the groups i cleared in her area, and used the -75 % heal bubble to grind her down. once she was dead, i killed the mortal striking naga, then the fury warrior blood elf, then the engineer, and left the mage for last, i put on frost resist gear just to be able to ignore him till last, not sure if it mattered but it worked.

on kael i was in dps gear, my regular mostly blood tanking spec, and frost presence.

used army of the dead, and was gonna try and rush through to 50 % health. overestimated my dps :P and failed, made a mistake with runes in the fight and died after the 2nd pyro, he did a full hit fireball after that + i had bird after me.

2nd try was better, used just the regular ghoul and focused on always having runes up for the health regain stuff, interrupted almost finished fireballs to slow his dps on me a bit, focused on killing bird and eggs, pyro not a big issue only did 13534 with both of them combined, i used ams + Icebound fort to lessen the dmg from them.

got him past the 50 % by accident with a heart strike on the bird, killed egg quickly as he threw me up and then just flew around icy touching + death coiling while avoiding the bubbles, and dpsed him when he took his breathers.

killed him on the 3rd breather.

overall a fun run aside from the regular bug from princess, didn't get to loot :/

Comment by HoneyF

Solo'd as an 80 enh shaman, very easy fight with puppies out and heroism - I had him down below 50% before the pyroblast. The priestess was a much trickier fight - I've only been able to solo her once so far, going to try a couple different strategies to get those buggers down.

ETA - got the mount on 3/3/09, woot! No more H's, just need the pet now =)

Comment by iamkobi

At Icecrown: "Don't look so smug! I know what you're thinking, but Magisters' Terrace was merely a set back. Did you honestly believe I would trust the future to some ugly, half summoned mongrel? Oh no, he was merely an instrument, a stepping stone to a much larger plan! It has all led to this, and this time, you will not interfere!"

Comment by Akario

If your team is stupid.. And starts the fight w/o you and your healer, then hug the see through wall, when he gravity lapses, he will pull you in.

Comment by jaxsonbateman

After doing some other mount farming as prot (ZG mounts + Attumen) I decided to give H-MgT a whirl. As prot the instance was overall pretty easy (I did die on my first Vexallus attempt as I forget to wait until Forebearance had faded to start, and thus couldn't remove the high stack of arcane charges), but upon reaching KT it was evident that his high magical damage was far too much for my SoL/JoL to counter.

I'm usually holy, so I decided to go back to holy and see how that went, with a "heal through it" approach rather than "survive it" approach. However, failure resulted from a lack of HP, survivability talents and dps.

Decided to give it one last shot as ret - with success. Due to the level difference a fair amount of the fireballs miss, and the extra damage is incredibly helpful. Two phoenixes spawned - upon spawning I opened with a judgement from range, kited for a few secs, than ran in and burst them down with CS, DS and HoW. The eggs die in 1-2 melee swings. KT actually got off a Pyroblast - as I wasn't expecting it I didn't want to risk the shield not going down, so I simply bubbled through it. Probably had about ~15 secs left before a second Pyro would've occured, which would've been a very hairy moment.

As it always has been, the gravity phase was a joke playing it safe. Used the aerial time to heal, and the ground time to knock his socks off.

And of course, after all those respecs neither the pet nor the mount dropped. However, I'm pretty content in knowing that the only pre-Wrath dropped mounts I can't solo now are Anzu (GG druid required) and Al'ar.

Edit: I should also note that I used Seal of Command (for a fight where you have the potential to take such high damage from Fireballs you can't really risk the recoil from SoB), Judgement of Light (manas not nearly as much of an issue as survivability), Blessing of Might (over kings - the extra survivability is too insignificant compared to the lost AP) and Ret Aura (in retrospect FR Aura may have been better - at the time I figured I needed the dps to ensure I pushed KT to phase 2 early enough). My ret set consists of 4/5 T7.5, 1/5 T7 (the helm - too cheap to buy the Titansteel helm for my offset), and a few random Naxx 10/25 pieces - nowhere near BIS, but it'd earn a regular spot in most guilds.

Comment by exowizard

One word :Uuugggllllyyyy

Comment by Putuk

The TRUE story of the Sunwell, brought to you by Kael'thas Sunstrider:

It was called The Pool of Awesome! And at some point in time I was there! Summoning magical fairys to come and help me - Kael'thas Sunstrider - take over the fairy kingdom of Lord of the Rings town! And it was awesome!But then, one day in october they came.Jacklanterns, ghosts, skelletons... Oh my! In my haste I ran away, while my fairy princess summoners stayed to fight the battle! But the halloween horrors overcame. And SWISH! SQUASH! Scary things happened! The beasts batteled long and hard. My bretheren sacrificed themselves for the fountain, even they can not overcome the halloween horrors they were. They took over the fountain and relinquished all of my hard work... It was sad and all was lost.As for me... well, I ran away. But I told my elven friends: "Let us rejoice by going to the next town over and having a huge party!" And we did. So we walked. FAR. About a million miles or two! Through a partet ocean with only nacho bread to cure our hunger. It was really far! But as we neared the end, my people faltered and wanted to end the long tow. I told them I must leave, to find my true place within the world. I leaved with a tear in my eye.But not long after, batteling HUMUNGUS... things, I found Illidan, my bestest and only good time friend! Besides Mr. Fluffykins. Illidan exepted me into his clan, but suggested that I go and create my own caste and leave him to his own deeds. There I could channel all the fairy energies into one place. And also have a enourmous place to put all of my dolls. And have what I've always wanted: A pet bird! It was cool!So after a long time the energies allowed me to travel into an interdemensional world, filled with dinosaurs and crackers! But I EXPLODED... and I died. Or so they say, exept for some reason I actually didn't die, it was more like a spirit or something... I-I don't really understand how that works.Anyway, for my spirit lived on and I perseded to return once again to my fountain of youth and splender, where the fairys would once again come to my aid and the aid of my bretheren... but me moreover.And so it began again. As my hunt for fairyblood became inevitable, my hunger for magic and all things fun and happy bacame unabaited.As for me... well, I look like a mess. But I was preaty happy. For once again my Pool of Awesome has returned! And I could finally summon the fairy demon godess, he-who-must-not-be-named. He would bring me my power and make me The King of Awesome! The End!

Comment by Enct

I tried soloing him as a blood specced tanking death knight and failed multiple times. I finally got him after I took off my tanking gear and put on dps items. My gear isn't that good, it's just things from heroics. Here's what needs to happen:

1. You need to get him to 50% before a second pyroblast.2. Your army of the dead can't be hit by flame strike.

In phase 2 just try to stay alive. It gets easier the longer phase 2 lasts. If you get desperate for hp, use anti magic shell/icebound fortitude before flying up to him to death strike.

Comment by Amrun

Kael'thas Sunstrider

When the Sunwell was ripped from them, the Blood Elves sought for another source of magical energy. Kael'thas looked to the aid of Illidan, who was being held prisoner by Maeiv Shadowsang in Outland. Kael'thas and his forces defeated Maeiv, and freed Illidan.

Illidan then sought to destroy the Lich King - he had failed before and was forced therefore to flee to Outland. However, Arthas's forces reached Icecrown Citadel at the same time as Illidan's, and Arthas dueled Illidan. Illidan was greatly wounded, and he along with Kael'thas retreated to Outland.

Kael'thas was content for a short while, as Illidan had allowed him to reside in Tempest Keep, where he had a vast amount of power to feed on. But when players defeated Kael'thas in the Eye, this power was torn from him. Kept alive by a gem in his chest thanks to his servant Priestess Delrissa. Seeking for another source of power, he betrayed Illidan and returned to Azeroth, to the Isle of Quel'Danas. There, he is now attempting to summon the demon lord Kil'jaeden through the Sunwell.

Comment by Duxa

Soloed him as a 25nax geared druid.

Phase 1 - Started with RIP and switched to Bear... when phoenix popped was running away semi kiting him. When phoenix poped an egg, switched to it and burned it down.

Phase 2 - Switch to Cat and burn him down.

Comment by Patty

This guy should get The Undying title by default.

Comment by Lirothae

Kael's Pyroblast post 3.1.

I've recently been farming the place on heroic with my lvl 80 priest and an 80 hunter. However on the last run Kael's pyro blast that would originaly hit for around 6k, did 50K to the hunter. I'm wondering if it works off different mechanics now, basing it's damage on your level or health.

Comment by Replicat

The guide above by Gusstavv was very helpfull to me.Soloed as a level 80 feral druid in ilvl 213 tanker gear on heroic.

Begin in cat form - get 5 combo points and do a rip.Immediately change to bear form. This will be done just before his first fireball.DPS him in bear untill the bird is summoned.Let the bird get into melee range.Use Berserk and DPS both bird and Kael'Thas.When the bird dies and the egg is summoned, DPS both the egg and Kael'Thas using your remaining berserk or glyphed Maul.Keep DPS'ing in bear form to get him below 50%. After this you have won!

If you have trouble getting him to 50% after the bird has been killed, it might be worth trying to switch to cat form and dps him faster. This way it should also be possible to get his shield down and interrupt a pyroblast, should one come.

Comment by nomadicdruid

Solo'd on heroic as a feral druid. Gear mostly level 213/226 (no Ulduar gear). I went with tanking gear, although some of that includes my dps gear (agi gems), since I don't tank for raids (it's a raid/heroic solo farming spec).

Took me quite a few attempts to get this down. I also searched on google and found this video that helps at least give an idea as to what to do when the arcane bubbles apepar.

Worth noting, Kael's fireball was hitting me for around 5k (says it's fire, but I wasn't resisting it, and tried additional resist gear to no effect). So you need to burn him to 50%. In addition to burning him to stop him from doing heavy damage, you can also out dps his pyroblast. If you didn't berserk the phoenix, berserk attack him when he starts pyroblasting so you can get through his shield and bash.

Start in cat form. Get savage roar up, then rip asap. Personally, once he summons the phoenix, I like to rip again. Then go bear form, pop enrage, frenzy regen, survival instincts, and berserk - go to town. Your maul (if glyphed) and berserk will hit the phoenix, then will hit his egg after he dies. The point of berserking here - in addition to hitting two targets - is to get him to 50% asap. When done this way, I haven't had to deal with a pyroblast.

At 50%, phase 2 (anti-gravity), you're likely to be hurting quite a bit (I generally am) - so I head to the back of the room (as seen in the video) and heal myself along the way. I tend to blow a lot of mana doing this, so I innervate just in case. (Sidenote, I'm talented to spend minimal mana on shifting).

Once he switches to the anti-gravity, the fight is yours. He will no longer fireball or flamestrike. There is damage per tick, but it's minimal. Go cat, and once you have the bubbles lured away, maneuver toward Kael and feral charge - then hop up off the ground (lest it throw you up).

Good luck!

Comment by Altheaas

Me (Level 70 Retribution Paladin) and a Discipline Priest (Also level 70) 2-manned Kael'thas after he dropped our group before they managed to get him below 90%, Lol. It was really epic, but fairly easy. I haven't done it yet, but I hope the one in the Eye is harder. xD.

Comment by RedwoodElf

What? No "Leave ILLIDAN alone!"

Comment by waingarth

I dont' think anyone has covered somethign of vital importance. Besides the fact that every Heroc in TBC is now soloable....

Does anyone know if the BoP Patters that drop off KT in Heroic mode are now 100% and how many patters will he drop? All patterns in Outland instances are now nearly 100%, had two instance where I had to kill 2 mobs to get the patterns.

If this holds true he should ahve 100% chance to drop AT LEAST one pattern, possible 100% chance to drop every pattern availabe for use by people in the instance, has this yet to be confirmed?

Comment by Nachioo92

Detheroc had acquired a human puppet, Garithos, and his men, and was using them to protect himself. Sylvanas had his scouts possessed, and then infiltrated his base while their guard was down. As they slept, Sylvanas swept through the twin bases and slaughtered any before her. Though they eventually awoke and raised the alarm, it was too late. Sylvanas disabled the humans and ravaged Detheroc's forces, eventually coming to the dreadlord himself, and killing him swiftly. With the dreadlord dead, Garithos was freed from his mental control. Sylvanas saw him as arrogant and foolish, but felt that she could use him. She lied and promised to relinquish control of the Capital to him if he helped her kill Balnazzar.

Garithos attacked from the rear entrance to the city as Sylvanas and Varimathras came from the front. As they moved into the city, Sylvanas found caches of items left by the Lordaeron royals, and used them to further the assault. Despite the dreadlord's demonic allies, his forces were destroyed, and, as a final test of loyalty, Sylvanas demanded that Varimathras kill Balnazzar.

Varimathras froze, saying that it was forbidden for one Nathrezim to kill another. But she required Varimathras to prove his loyalty to her.

Varimathras obeyed, and struck down Balnazzar. However, whether by accident or design, Balnazzar survived, later re-emerging as a leader of the Scarlet Crusade. Varimathras was not so reluctant when Sylvanas ordered him to do the same to Garithos.

With all their enemies dead, Sylvanas made a proclamation to Varimathras. They would rule the Plaguelands as the Forsaken, and would stake out their own destiny, where none would get in their way.

You should use Wowwiki, Mr. Loremaster. Garithos is dead.

Comment by Shaqueeill

God Kael you let yourself go man letting a crystal go threw your chest just to keep you alive dont you just need a preist for that and i swear to god you looked alot better in warcraft 3

Comment by Althes

Keal'thas died in tempest keep...

Hogger was merly a setback!

Comment by Balx

He looks like a Wretched well I guess he is! allways sundering for magic!

Comment by casperpayne

Greatest death line EVAR

MY DEMISE ACCOMPLISHES NOTHING! The Master wil have you... You will drown in your own BLOOD! THE WORLD SHALL BURN! *nasty scream*

Comment by Ronin87

Like others said already, soloable as a feral druid.

Tho i must admit that the whole phase 1 is all about having the dps to bring him to 50% (no big deal) AND beeing lucky on fireball resists. Worst case he will just spam fireballs and wipe you, no matter how good your gear is. Resi gear isnt working aswell, on fireballs and pyroblasts.

I got annoyed by the daily RNG, so i did the following:

- Kill the first three bosses (obvious)- Kill the trashpack in Kaels room- Run back to the third boss and look out for a mob called "Sunblade Mage Guard" http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=24683

The mob has an interesting ability called Magic Dampening Field http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=44475#comments and he casts it pretty frequently. What i did was pulling one Mage Guard all the way to Kaelthas and let him cast that shield on me, resulting in

- Fireballs doing 800-1000 damage instead of the usual 5000- Pyroblast did only 14.000 instead of 55.000- Phoenix did close to no damage at all

making the fight a complete cakewalk for any feral druid attempting this fight (guess for other classes aswell, but especially for druids since we dont have anti magic shell or bubbles)

How to do the pull:

Since the mobgroups change from instance to instance, it can be hard to find a Mageguard close to Kaels room. What you can do is to reset the heroic and hope that one of the 2 mob groups contain a mage guard, or leave one of the 4 mob-packs alive, then use shadowmeld if you are a nightelf, get yourself into position and use entangling roots. Now run all the way back to Kaelthas and wait for the mage guard. (If you grab a mage guard not close to Kaels room, remember to clear all packs that could be aggrod in the process).

Charge Kael as soon as the Guard is in 20-30y range. Done!

Comment by ceemeeir

Solo way for Ferals:

Tac Nr1:Prepare:Mark, thorns up. There is 4 group in the previous room with only 2 mob in the pack, a caster, and a Mage Guard. Kill the caster, root the mage guard with Nature's grasp. Run to Kael, heal yourself up, start the fight. Most likely the guard will come to you before the pyro, and put down a Bubble that reduces dmg and healing taken by 75%. This way the damage from pyro is ~8-10K. You can easily survive this way till 50%.

Form: Bear till 50%, cat after that.

Tac Nr2

Full dps gear. Start with cat, main the first pyro, go bear, bash the 2nd pyro, pop Berserk when the add comes close, kill the add during berserk. Feral charge the 3rd pyro, go cat again, maim the 4th pyro. You should get to 50% by now. From that, it is easy, just heal up yourself, and don't touch the bubbles. They still hurt.

Note: it took me 49 kill to get the mount, did 20 run with 1st tactic, rest with the 2nd.

GL with your mount farm.

Comment by Litess

Kael'thas Sunstrider is easily soloable on HC by enhancement shamans (as well as the whole instance). The way i do it is pop Feral Spirits and Earth Elemental in the begining as well as heroism. You're gonna have to switch and kill the phoenix and the egg after and move away from Flame Strike to avoid losing a lot of health. By the time your ferals spirits disappear you should have him down to about 50% at which point he'll start to cast Gravity Lapse. It's best to avoid bubbles and heal yourself. When possible pop your fire elemental and feral spirits again, so when you get cast back up you'd have someone DPSing him. The encounter usually ends after the fourth Gravity Lapse for me. Overall it's pretty easy if you manage to nuke him fast in the begining before the damage starts wearing you down.

Comment by Topman

The most badass Bloodelf to live

Comment by Cfaniaq

Is he the only boss that drop such outlands recipes? Are drop chances higher on heroic mode? Is it easier and faster to farm em on normal mode despite lower drop chance?

Comment by Taurinus

Quite Easily soloed by a retadin in somewhat descent 80 gear (naxx25 etc), all you need to watch out is:

1) ALWAYS have sacred shield up - pop all art of war for FoL2) Blow AW asap before phoenix spawns3) When phoenix comes out run in front of it and jugde / storm it, DO NOT MELEE IT!4) P2 is a cakewalk, you need to make P2 before second pyroblast

Happy mount farming :)

Comment by sillybuns

Its weird, i tried to solo him on heroic with my 80, and i had 120 fire resist to be safe, but it didn't help, i did resist alot of the phoenix's damage, but none of kael's at all, every time a fireball hit, it did full damage, so its likely to assume fire resist doesn't not really help, either that, or you need alot more then 120, which wouldn't make any sense considering he is only level 72.

Moral of the story, fire resist doesn't help you take him down.

Comment by WoWoholic

If you're interested in soloing this guy as a protection paladin i wrote a guide to do just that check out the video for more information on how to solo him easily as a protection paladin and all the other bosses as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn3lDBcZXVQ on heroic of course

Comment by Ailurus

Fun fact: Kael'thas has his own unique death animation on regular, but dies like any normal blood elf on heroic. Odd.

Comment by Kyoso

Easy soloed as a Unholy DPS DK in good tank gear, using 5.5k heal Death Strikes/Frost Presence.

Ghoul out, Army out, early Gargoyle, he didn't even reach the shield/fireball sequence, he just quickly passed to phase 2 which makes it easymode for DK once again.

Avoid the spheres, shoot ranged spells, dps after gravity, another lapse and he was down in the gutter.

Panku

EDIT: Forgot to add that I killed the phoenix/egg that spawned.EDIT2: He does the unique animation on heroic mode too, just checked :)

Comment by Bravehurt

Soloed by a 80 bloodthirst tank warrior. A few key things that I believe helped the fight:

-had about 140 fire resist through gear and drums of the wild (the level 70 epic FR badge stuff). This wasn't to neutralize any of Kaels damage, but it helps with the phoenix's, resisting about half of that incoming damage.

-interrupt or reflect everything you can, obviously. Spell reflects account for a bit of dps, and remember that heroic throw will interrupt as well.

-bloodthirst on cooldown, didn't bother with TC or demo, just keep up your main bloodthirst/dps rotation.

-he WILL cast the 40k pyro twice (i'm not sure how long it takes between cast 1 and cast 2) so you need to make sure that you get him to 50% before he has a chance to cast it again.

-ignore the phoenix, it will destroy itself. go after the egg whenever its up. as per usual, its imperative that there is no phoenix up going into P2.

-after the pyro, last stand+trinket+enraged regen to get back up. don't pot unless you absolutely have to.

-when you get to P2, you will not be near full health, so what I did was pot and then run away from the orbs. if you have any arcane resist (i had the +45 ArR violet badge plus drums of the wild) and the AoE ticks were only hitting for ~40. Once the first gravity lapse was over, i bandaged up and then started up with the bloodthirst rotation, always pulling the orbs as far away so i could get all three swings from bloodthirst on him.

-if you survive the first gravity lapse to bandage you should be set, just again avoid the orbs and bloodthirst when you can.

TL;DR-resistances are key, get some FR and a bit of ArR-reflect/interrupt casts-shield wall for pyroblast, and he WILL cast it twice if you don't dps him down -make sure no phoenix or egg going into p2-save pot CD for start of p2 so you can last through the first gravity lapse and bandage once youre on the ground-gravity lapse damage is a joke with a bit of ArR, but orbs will still own you, so just swim to door and wait out the lapse-you can switch out your shield for a 2H for p2, shield wall should still be on CD-p2 will take a while, but slow and steady is better, and you'll probably get another enraged regen if you need it

happy albino chocobo hunting!

Comment by stylesmum

easy to solo as a fury on heroic, but only kaelthas..every other boss is much easier as a prot warrior

Comment by Morec0

Pure win right there!

Comment by Groobert6456

Not gonna lie, that crystal must have burned goin in.. Also seems like he might have some breathing trouble..

Comment by Muscleman

Nine lives, baby!

Comment by WoWoholic

Just wrote a general guide for every class on this guy :) if you're interested heres the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N99-1Rrik7s wtf is with you dudes down rating me >.> see if i make another guide for you again

Comment by PadraigBloodwind

He'll be back.

Decapitation and random PuGs taking a leak on his corpse was merely a setback.

Comment by Rekrap1234567890

When you get to him he talks about how Tempest Keep was mealy a set back and how he wouldn't trust some half night elf mongrel (illadin stormrage) and how the master would have the world (kil'jadin) he says

''I know what your thinking buy tempest keep was merly a set back do you think I would put my trus in some half night elf mongrel. no oo no the master shall have everything prepare for ME.

and when hes dieing

DO YOU THINK THIS CHANGES ANYTHING THE MASTER WILL HAVE YOU I WILL NOT DIE THE SUNWELL WILL BE MINE AGAIN! YOU WILL ALL DIE, DROWN IN YOUR OWN BLOOD AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

and then he falls and you can loot him

Comment by scyther

I did not see this posted anywhere on here but this was very easy for me.

I solo'ed all the other bosses in my feral gear but I kept dying on Kael.. So I switched to my main spec (balance) and just nuked him to 50% and then healed myself up. Be sure to use barkskin for the fireballs.

Comment by Skez

If you as Death Knight open the fight with Dancing Rune Weapon or using it when Gravity Lapse starts or ends he will despawn.Occurs in both the Normal and the Heroic version.

Comment by skiper

How to kill as a 80lvl rogue.

I use 2 specs for this:1st is standart combat build with KS2nd is - 50 in combat w/o taking KS and up to preparation in subtility. (with CoS and evasion glyphs)

So stealth to the 1st boss and kill mobs in his room using 1st build (KS and BF should be easy).Respec to 2nd build. Open up with Garrote -> Ghostly strike -> Adrenaline rush -> Evasion and then just dps him until he goes to orb. Continue dpsing, use preparation and again Evasion+CoS when he finished chanelling the orb. GG.

Sleath up to the 2nd boss. Spec to the 1st build. Its a bit tricky and you will need a few wipes to figured out the fight. The idea is simple - gather 2-3 buffs from Pure Energy and then burst him down using Killing Spree and CoS to protect yourself at the last seconds of fight. Use any trinkets increasing AP if you have. (CoS glyph is usefull too).

3rd boss is amazingly easy. Just sap one add, blind another and use Blade Furry , evasions, KS. Same with the pack before Kael.

Kael.Use 1st mentioned build (combat). Instant poison MH, Deadly OH. Open up garrote, evasion, adrenaline rush and immediatly kick his fireball cast. Continue this way without using Killing Spree and AP trinkets/items. When Phoenix comes slow dps a bit and allow him to come close to you. Then use CoS and Blade Furry and continue dpsing Kael. Phoenix should die simultaneously.I usually get through 1st phase with full hp or full-1 fireball dmg if im not lucky to resist it.2nd phase - evade spheres. The goal is to keep Deadly Poisons up all the time, using Shiv asap.When Kael lands you pop-up trinkets and use KS and Eviscerate (you should have 5 combo points after Shiv).Should you fail at killing him - use some healing pots and repeat through Gravity Lapse.

ps. need to mention my gs is 5k+ (with 7k+ dps). may be a lot harder with less dps and worse gear.

Comment by Jazzism

Just focussed on pew pew kael and killed ran around the bird, it popped in p2 so I killed hte egg then. Swam in the air away from the balls and pew pew kael. Bear didn't need any mend pet at all.

Just gotta watch for the end of the balls phase, the fall hurt and the arcane damage added to it. The bear stood in his face the whole time. 2 minute fight.

No pet or mount this time but it's just my first run.

Edit - Oh yes, Thanks for the video NomadicDruid. that let me see how the fight goes. GJ and excellent music selection

Comment by executable

Can anyone tell if you can reach him without having to down certain bosses ? as in straight forward boss or you have to the run the whole instance for him?

Comment by Jigs

I have been grinding rep for Shattered Sun and I've gotten de Phoenix Hatchling on my 4th run I think.

On normal the droprate is pretty high and thus makes this little neat guy more then worth the grind.

Comment by Sure

"Tempest Keep was merely a setback!"

Comment by cryptlord91

Here are cut scenes and cinematics from Warcraft III The Frozen Throne which show the beginning of the end of Prince Kael'thas's and the blood elves defection from the Alliance.Very interesting if you want to know more about the trilogy of blood elves and why they are not with the Alliance.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CEBNva01As&feature=related

Comment by mrbungle54

I'd just like to point out that we kill him here in Magister's Terrace, take his head and turn it in so we can go into Heroic Magister's Terrace. So we can kill him again. I mean, we already @#$%ed him up enough, didn't we? Look at him! He's got a crystal shoved in his chest permanently, for Christ's sake!So then we gotta go tear his head off his shoulders, so we can go kill him, yet again. Why kill him again, you ask? Well, we already messed his grill up, took his head and all that jazz. But now, we want his family ring so we can sell it to an antiquities dealer, and get a kickback from the sale of it.

Man, we freakin' rule!

Comment by DarkOrb255

Oh &*!@ not again.....

Comment by vanquished14

Very simple as a SV (and I presume MM and BM) ICC25-geared level-80 Hunter. Just MD and nuke him. I used a Turtle Pet but I'd guess a Wolf would work just as well. I like to save FD for flight phase to get Phoenix summon off myself and onto pet. Make sure you keep moving to stay away from flying orbs.

If you're a hunter having difficulty with this instance, the problem will probably lie on 3rd boss. The way I do them is start from behind near door to next area, drop frost, explosive, and snake trap, MD and nuke the Priestess first, then I just tab target and kill each guy one by one. Use frost trap to kite and should be very simple as they die (I use turtle pet here too).

For first two bosses, I simply nuke Selin Fireheart and Vexallus. If you're having difficulty with Vexallus, try to send pet on some of the orbs, FD as orbs reach you, and use Epic Ammo for added DPS benefits.

Comment by Amrun

Just solo'd on heroic as an 80 tank druid in ICC10 level gear, finishing off my Outland Dungeon Hero achievement. Out of all the bosses I faced in each heroic, this was the only one that posed a decent challenge. Still, it isn't too hard to achieve. Stay well away from the orbs when he does the Gravity Lapse, and make sure you destroy the egg as soon as possible when you kill the phoenix, or else the damage will overwhelm you as the bird keeps respawning.

If you do happen to get hit hard by the phoenix or the gravity orbs, then use the gravity lapse phase as a time to heal yourself. The static DoT done during the phase is easy to ignore. I barely attacked him while in the air, but feel free to try to get a couple of attacks in if you can avoid the orbs. Also, I never even noticed the pyroblast casts.

Comment by Spohlol

Soloed as a Resto druid (24/0/47) with gear score of 6k wearing almost only pvp items, trick for me was to lend the magic bubble of a mage guard and just go outside of it to heal up(since the mage guard will melee you for 1,5 ~~) and just go inside of it when he casts pyroblast.Another thing to keep in mind is to make sure you kill the pheonix outside of the bubble since you wont be able to burn down the egg efficiently if its taking 75% less dmg :O

Got him below 50% just before the third pyroblast was about to be thrown.

Insect swarm will most likely be enough to kill the egg and make sure u keep is+mf on kael'thas most of the time, i used a mana pot as well in the end but as long as u survive the first 50% its a win.

Comment by slaveiithegame

just soloed him on my protection paladin then. Did it in prot gear, but for second phase was really slow, with lots of floating about healing with seal of wisdom, hammer of wrathing and floating to and fro to refresh divine plea by whacking him. in pieces of t8 and 9

Comment by danieltang34

solo 'd him on my DK tank and Pally tank today

DK : 6k GSPally: 4.5k GSMy DK solo'd it easily since its pretty gearedi didnt know the fight and had a phoenix up on phase 2 but still i managed to down him

General tips:1. use some DPS trinekts, tankin trinkets wont be useful unless ur stam is real low2. fly above him, so u get more time to dps when he drop u3. if ur undergeared, consider bringing some potions and buffs, like stam buff, king, motw, and possible elixirs or flasks

Phase 11. army and run in2. if your undergeared, go blood presence, he seldom melee so the armor bonus is not that important, you need to take him down to 50% in 1 min or he'll cast pyroblast, its fatal, 42-43k for me in tank spec n presence3. use death strike to keep urself up4. take the phoenix down asap since u dont have someone to kite it away from u5. if ur dps is so low that u couldnt make it to in time, magic shield, icebound fortitude, it'll save u from 2 pyroblasts

Phase 21. use IT on CD2. fly above him, so u get more time to dps when he drop u

*save dark pact for emergency use

Prot Pally:Phase 11. use seal of vengeance, you need to dps to burn thru this phase2. judge light, just watch ur mana 3. bubble and ardent defender should save u from 2 pyroblasts4. keep sacred shield up5. use avenger wrath in the first 10-25 seconds, it gives extra dps + making sure that ur able to bubble when he cast pyroblast

Phase 21. seal of light/command, depends if u need the extra health2. exorcism when ur flying3. refresh divine plea at any cost4. remove divine plea before healing urself "IF" divine plea is ready to use5. fly above him, so u get more time to dps when he drop u6. taunt him when hes stunned for some extra dps

*save LoH for emergency use

Comment by mathos22

He's gray and talks more than your average NPC.

Comment by Marimalino

Okay , it was roguh BUT. I finaly managed to solo him.

Lvl 80 prot warr, 5,7k gs according to addon.

Just do as you do in grps , nuke him and phoenix and hope by the light you took his hp down enough to skip the pyroblast. Got killed 5 times by pyroblast when I was 10k from the "p2" part.

p2 part is just like normal , Use shield wall , last stand, enraged regeneration and also a 4set bonus from t10 helps alot . And you should survive.

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Comment by Brightstar

I just want to say how satisfying it is to use Corpse Explosion on him after he dies. If you can, do it. You'll see what I mean. :D

Comment by Crinkleface

The Eye was merely a setback!

Comment by hypoxide

Soloed as an 80 discipline priest, ~6k GS + Nibelung. Not difficult. Pain suppress + PW:S through the pyroblast. Kite the Phoenixes and kill the eggs. The rest is a breeze.

Comment by Zyeio

soloed as a ele shammy, quite easy , just used my earth ele totem and i nuked him down, hardest part of instance was the elemental boss, no mount yet, but im keeping my hopes up!

Comment by mutoo

Fairly difficult to solo as a shadow priest, then again it was my first time

Burn him near 50%, refresh dots, re-shield your self, and just mind flay him to death. I used the PVP Health Trinket for Phase two for extra protection. Once you master this encounter it's definitely easier then the Princess.

I was also in an item level average of 245 with 4 piece t10.

If you have something like Nibelung I'd suggest using it because Val'Kyrs help out tremendously in Phase two when you're getting hit like a truck and need to burn the boss before it burns you.

I wouldn't worry about the pyroblast or that crap, if you see him casting it just smack dispersion, he should never have a chance to cast it though, which is good because then you can save dispersion for Phase two

Not a good idea to try and solo it as holy, as you can't cast healing spells in Phase two, which is probably why I wiped a couple times.

Comment by Eljefegrande19

For the warriors out there wanting to solo.....

I'm fury/prot almost no ICC gear in either spec.

Did it in normal first in tank spec with 44khp, went very bad. Had a bird go into p2 and as it was my first time I didn't know to avoid the bubbles XD used charge/Intercept to keep going after the bird and died a few sec later. Did some reading on here and came back in went into fury spec/gear nuked him down to p2 with no birds ever spawning... fly around the edge of the room avoiding the orbs until u drop back down ( I used regen while in the air ) nuke again and its over with almost full hp.

As I have found with most lvl 70 heroics the trash leading to the final boss is much harder than the actual boss. Went just as smooth as the first time in normal ( He had no time for birds or pyro )!

If you can make it past the Priestess Delrissa group you can do this guy no problem!

Note: I did use my protection spec/gear to clear all trash as my hp droped too fast in fury. Used fury for all bosses!

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Comment by clavarnway

Super easy as a Demo lock. The Pyroblast is cast after a certain amount of time, and there's really no way the fight will go that long if you aren't AFK. Make sure to kill the Phoenixes, and get out of the way of the fire.

Comment by Goldenbite

can we skip the other bosses or they will agro when agroig kael'thas?

Comment by MainGauche

Easily soloable now, I've done it as Affliction but my demo spec worked much better.

All the trash dies within a three or four seconds from a combination of my felguards Felstorm and hand of guldan. The bosses die very quickly popping Metamorphosis, immolation aura and using the usual demo rotation.I use my Infernal cooldown for the third boss, the whole party dies almost as quickly as a regular trash pack. KT himself is trivial, there's no need to even bother targetting the phoenix. By the time he casts gravity lapse he's a gonner just from my pets auto attacks and the dots already on him, so I just swim a little way away and /lol.

Comment by Blackclaw

I was able to solo him first shot. My gear is ICC 10-25 level. I'd say Corroded Skel Key is pretty much necessary for this.

When he starts casting Pyroblast, a buffed Shield Slam (with Shield Block on), a Revenge and a Heroic Strike/Devastate should be enough to knock down his shield. However, I couldn't do that, and soaked a Pyroblast with Enraged Regen + Last Stand on.

Prot Warriors are now able to solo Kael'thas for the following reasons:

Heroic Strike is now an instant and can be used for 'burst' damage once he shields up.

And most importantly,

Blood Craze now procs off of normal damage, and it procs off of the Gravity Lapse DoT. I was on really low health during the last phase, but the regen from Blood Craze kept me alive.

Comment by Supau

Haven't seen a lot from mages either but it wasn't bad to solo the whole thing as a mage, either. As with most other elites, you're going to have to use Mirror Image every fight to tank for you. I did it in Frost for the shield and roots on trash.

1st boss - DPS race.

2nd boss - DPS race - BUT, if you can manage to have 25 stacks of the buff from the eels before him, you do 25% more damage for a few seconds of the fight. Makes the fight a non-issue if you plan it out properly, really.

3rd boss(es) - First time I came in I sheeped Warlord Salaris (warrior) and had my Water Elemental on Yazzai (mage). I suspect there's better ways to do it (if there's any need for CC at all) then burned the rest down one at a time. Subsequent times I found it to be easier if I took out Kagani Nightstrike (rogue) first.

4th boss - DPS race.

Really kind of trivial in ICC gear. If you ever get into trouble, just use Invisibility and try again.

Comment by celosa

does the phoenix pet drop of regular mgt it says it has a 9% drop on reg but iove run it like 20 times and ive seen boars speed drop already no pet >:O

Comment by Sahagin

From what i can see the drops were changed in this instance on heroic. I'm not sure if the pet/mount drops, I hope so.

1.(He loses his head, and wears a skirt.)2.(He won't die, wears a skirt.)3.(He won't die)4.(His statues broke in TK, Sin can be viewed as either having turned evil or "Sin'dorei")5.(He lusts for Jaina. He could be called a darkener.)6.(We all know the popular joke with Jaina Proudmoore. He hit on her before wc3.)7.(He's a leader, and he pulls phoenixes and weapons out of his.. <ehem>)9.(Again, leader, skirt-hunter - referring to Jaina here, she's hot.)

Comment by Dubhar

Can't take anymore setback speeches? You can avoid his intro speech by simply walking around the trash in his room without killing them. Should shave a good few seconds off your daily run.

Good luck with your mount/pet farming! ^ _ ^

Comment by MingYue

I can solo this boss with no problem at 85 as a shadow priest on heroic mode

very easy

Comment by zero0911

Honestly, hate this guy. He is super easy. But I have gotten his Belf orb three times, recipe for tailoring and alchemy. But yet no mount! Yet the recipes themself are less than 1% and the orb is 2% >> plus got the orb on first try...

Correction....I have gotten both alchemy and both tailoring recipes from him.

Comment by Grayseven

This is now laughably easy to in Cataclysm blues with one or two epics if you are pulling decent DPS.

DBM gave a kill time of 38 seconds for my Destro Warlock, but that includes the 10 seconds of parting words before he actually dies...

I used a Voidwalker to tank and didn't even bother to swim from the bubbles, instead using Sacrifice and Nether Protection while finishing off the last 50%. I finished the fight still over 100k hp so I don't know if I actually got hit by the bubbles or not.

If you weren't able to solo this at the end of Wrath, I suggest giving it another shot.

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Comment by Akeros

I don't know if they seriously buffed the drop chance on the mount, but as I was farming Quickening Blade of the Prince for my RP set I got 3 of the Hawkstriders. I used one, kept one in my bank and had fun deleting the other one.

And two orbs. I got nothing on the second run, an orb on the first, an orb on the second and the last three runs provided me with plenty of Hawks.

Comment by sorsa

It is worth mentioning that he takes on a fetal position once he dies, lol.

Comment by Swekaka

One of the funniest bossfights on 5 man.

Comment by vazhkatsi

You can skip his monologue if you attack him while the adds before him are still up

Comment by VikariusRobo

Tempest Keep was merely a setback for ol' Kael'thas XD.

Comment by skuggi10

how do you unlock heroic to get swift white hawkstrider?

Comment by Houds

This dungeon gives about 1800 rep with 10% guild perk in normal mode.

Comment by Pyratewench

at lvl85 you can run past most mobs with no aggro. when you get to Kael..go around (don't attack them) his 'entourage' to avoid his long winded speech and just kill him-he goes down before he can even cast the Gravity spell XD.

Takes about 6-7 minutes to run through depending on if you are just running past just about all mobs with exception of killing the bosses to make a few quick gold in vendoring loots.

Ran on heroic and Kael didn't drop much anything useful (no enchant, pet or mount). Ran 3 times on normal and in the same run, he dropped both the phoenix pet and the Cat's swiftness enchant for me. Was hoping for Vitality enchantment..but hey..maybe another time...I'm instance locked out for the hour then will try for Vitality again.

Be sure to use his handy dandy transporting orb for a quick exit, vendor your loots, then run again. :)

Edited: Aug 5th 2011..He dropped the hawk mount for one of my guildies 2 days ago, and a I got the phoenix pet a couple weeks ago..so they are still dropping post 4.2

Edit again..30mins later...Hawkstrider dropped for me. :)

Comment by TheRealLink

Just soloed him as an 83 Nightelf Fury Warrior the past few days; actually twice on normal and twice on Heroic. Surprisingly he did drop me once (I think my second or third run). Went in with ~77K health and gear in the upper 200s, low 300s (not sure what tier TBH) - a mixture of WoTLK blues, Cata greens and a few TBC / WoTLK epics.

To be honest, I just focused on him and didn't really pay attention to the phoenix. I am pretty sure his fireball is interruptable but I recall it doing more like ~20K or so to me and not 40. Would have to watch more closely next time. What was shocking though was for part two, I was up in the air, landed to hit him for a bit, and he seemed to electrocute me for about 15K a tick (about every second) and so I died very fast that time... went from a lot of health to huh? dead. While I don't think it was all the orbs hitting me, it could've been a combination of things... anyway...

Yeah if you try to use your mouse to hit particular abilities, good luck when you're down by him. You have maybe a second before he hits you into the air again but it's good enough for maybe two or three hits, tops. I just kept hitting him with my bloodthirst, colossus smash, and execute, swimming up and down to repeat. Probably took a lot of unnecessary damage and had to pot a portion of the way thorough but he did finally give his death speech ;).

Dropped some blues and the phoenix pet twice so far. A fun boss and instance!

Comment by PilsnerDk

I don't know if it's the new patch (4.2.2) that did it, but today in Heroic MgT, I charged into KT while still having the pack of trash in front of him on me and partly alive. To my surprise, he didn't do his RP speech at all, and I could just smash him up immediately instead of having to wait for the RP. Saves a little time.

Comment by gilthunrus

ran thru the dungeon by myself. neither the companion nor the mount dropped. will try again as soon as possible.

Comment by Warhamer117

80 pala, soloed. doom.self healing plate class ftw.

Comment by arkhi

If you're a Kingdom Hearts fan, this guy is voiced by Quinton Flynn, the same guy that voices Axel in KH:II and Axel's original persona, Lea, in KH:BBS.

So whenever you get in that fire fight with Axel in KH:II, think that you're dodging Kael's fireballs. Also note that you fight Axel twice in each game he appears in (KH:CoM and KH:II). A reference to "just being a setback" perhaps?

Comment by JediWolfSister

"My demise accomplishes nothing!"You know you hate hearing him shout this only to loot him for maybe the hundredth time and still not find a mount on his corpse. lol

Comment by Slyce

I guess I'm just extremely lucky, but I got the mount, the blood elf illusion and the companion in less than a week!

Raven Lord, however, doesn't give me as much luck as this one, about 65 tries so far.

Comment by Verdice

----> IF YOU WANT TO SKIP THE RP <----

Sidestep the pack of mobs just before him. Killing them triggers his monologue and with them alive you can go straight into combat. Enjoy a slightly faster mount/pet run! :)

Comment by insanetimelord

I easily soloed this as an 85 hunter with a turtle and got the mount third try.

Comment by Starkey

just did this on my 68 ret pally and for some reason instead of floating on the orb phase i was jumping up and down alot, has this phase changed or am i missing something

Comment by Lighthorn

Wait, so this guy starts as a raid but goes to 5man dungeon? Usually the other way around

Comment by Haniki

The drop rate for the Imbued Crystal is very unaccurate since its been added in the revamp of the darkmoon faire, the drop rate is WAY higher then 0.2%

EDIT: Even though it is 0.3% as of 5.3, the drop rate is still extremely inaccurate

Comment by Einstein841

Remember when they took meTo the funny farmFor acting like a lunaticBecause you ran away?HAH?Well, that was many years agoAnd now at last they've let me outI've finally made them thinkI'm perfectly saneBUT...They're coming to get me again, ha haThey're coming to take me away again, hee hee, ho hoTo the looney binWhere life was ludicrous all the timeAnd I'm just crazy aboutThose big strong goonsWith their clean white nets'Cause they're coming to get me again, HA-HAAA!

Comment by Shanxys

Anyone notice he has a male blood elf model BUT his dying animation is a male night elf one?

Just something I noticed.

Comment by buriedvoid

Incredibly easy solo for a 90 BM Hunter, the only phase you need to worry about is the Mind Control Phase, in which you must hide behind a pillar to avoid his MC. I use a spirit beast in which I can spirit mend through the wall, use Kill Command when it pops and just wait for the next phase as your pet beats Kael down. As far as the other phases, you can kill the mobs in any order you want, I don't even bother leaving the main room as there is no need too. I save Stampede for the MC phase as well, and I dps in between MC's for a few seconds, don't overdo it though as he will despawn if he catches you not behind the pillar. Good luck!

Comment by Anevara

Quote of him in Magisters terrace "tempest keep was merely a setback" lol if you would read all the comments on the raids and instances wowhead ites you would notice that there a setbacks everywhere XD

Comment by Telar

Hey Guys,

I created a video guide which shows you how to farm this mount/pet - Here is the link:

Comment by Daiemio

Kael'thas Sunstrider now has a new death animation, where he falls on his knees, puts down a hand, agonizingly tries to reach for something then falls down on his side, and curls up into the fetal position.

Kael'thas Sunstrider <Lord of the Blood Elves>

Kael'thas Sunstrider is the final boss within Magisters' Terrace. Although believed to have been defeated in The Eye, Kael'thas has been kept alive by a green crystal embedded within his chest. He has a chance to drop Phoenix Hatchling and Swift White Hawkstrider, two popular vanity items for collectors.

Kael'thas Sunstrider yells: Don't look so smug! I know what you're thinking, but Tempest Keep was merely a setback. Did you honestly believe I would trust the future to some blind, half-night elf mongrel?

Kael'thas Sunstrider yells: I'll turn your world... upside... down.

Kael'thas Sunstrider yells: My demise accomplishes nothing! The master will have you! You will drown in your own blood! The world shall burn! Aaaghh!

Kael'thas Sunstrider yells: Oh no, he was merely an instrument, a stepping stone to a much larger plan! It has all led to this... and this time you will not interfere!