Well I love the idea of UKs healthcare, how it ends up being applied sometimes worries me. Probably doesn't help a very close friend of mine is reliant on it, and spent every day harping on its shiattiness. God, I hope she is still alive.

And he had private insurance, from what I gather UK wouldn't let him use it then kicked him out? Sounds pretty stupid. I forgot what site this was from, and hoped to get a clearer idea from the comments, but the derp is ungodly.

Mostly because it's really, really depressing to be reminded that the US's immigration laws/policies, which make immigration absurdly difficult and are convoluted to the point of stupidity, are literally the most lenient and immigrant-favoring immigration laws in the modern world.

I hope I never have to move, basically.

// Well, I guess Somalia's are probably somewhat more lenient since it doesn't have an immigration office at all and you can just show up, I assume.// Not even applying for citizenship in the same country when you get farkin' married is still a big fail, though.

AGremlin:It sounds like his work required him to be out of the UK for extended periods of time. This would have made it difficult for him to meet time in country requirements to establish residency.

He was in a bit of Catch 22 situation.

He is married to an English woman and he could have applied any time he liked. This sounds much more like a tax dodge, getting his salary paid offshore type of thing where he doesn't have to contribute a penny to the NHS which he then needed later. He has health insurance, why not get them to pay up what the owes?

From TFA "Mr Marx chose not to apply for residency status."

He chose to remain a US citizen and not pay anything into the NHS, that's his choice to make. He chose to have private health insurance. I've looked down the back of the sofa, under the mat, behind the TV and I can't seem to find a fark to give.

Caffienatedjedi:Well I love the idea of UKs healthcare, how it ends up being applied sometimes worries me. Probably doesn't help a very close friend of mine is reliant on it, and spent every day harping on its shiattiness. God, I hope she is still alive.

And he had private insurance, from what I gather UK wouldn't let him use it then kicked him out? Sounds pretty stupid. I forgot what site this was from, and hoped to get a clearer idea from the comments, but the derp is ungodly.

The chances are that his health insurance coverage wouldn't cover his treatment based on it being in a foreign country. I grew up with the NHS, and know there are a lot of people who abuse the fact it's free. I have some sympathy for the family, but not much because their story is in the Daily Mail. It's likely they received a fee for selling their story, and unlikely the whole truth of the story is being told. The Daily Mail usually is for foreigners being dumped into the sea, so the irony is profound.

AGremlin:It sounds like his work required him to be out of the UK for extended periods of time. This would have made it difficult for him to meet time in country requirements to establish residency.

He was in a bit of Catch 22 situation.

The UK does not have, AFAIK, any requirement that you not leave the country while you are applying.Link

He chose not to apply, which would have been a formality. If TFA is correct I have no idea why the NHS didn't let him use his insurance, which he apparently had, or why the immigration people are insisting on kicking him out despite the fact he has insurance, a job etc. I assume there is more to the story...

JosephFinn:The irony of this story being in the anti-immigrant, anti-health care Daily Fail is almost immeasurable.

Having been an immigrant to the UK myself, I can tell you that the UK is one of the most anti-immigrant nations in the world. Once I'd been married to a UK citizen and lived there long enough to acquire a passable British accent, I heard some incredible anti-foreigner abuse. The kind of stuff that Tea Party members would know better not to say in public, average English folks had no trouble casually saying to me. A real eye-opener. Mind you many of them were incredibly embarrassed when they found out I wasn't one of them, but I have no doubt they kept their views.

/Fact 1: Prime Minister David Cameron wanted to limit yearly visas, including student visas, to 10,000 a year. Because any more foreigners would surely overwhelm that country of 63 million.//Fact 2: Marrying a British citizen doesn't allow you to even apply for residency for five years.///Fact 3: You can be a full-time university student and a full-time employee and married to a UK citizen and still be rejected for permanent residency. Which is why I am typing this from the US and not the UK.

"Oh shiat. I have leukemia.""No worries. We Brits have the NHS to pay for your expensive treatment.""Errr...I'm not British. But I have private insurance to pay for my expensive treatment.""Nope. Since it's potentially fatal, you must be treated within the NHS system.""Oh...OK. Let's get started.""Nope. Under the NHS rules, you're a public burden. Get out of our country.""But I have insurance!""Not listening anymore. Here's your bag, don't let the door hit you in the arse on the way out. And here's a bill for 98 grand."

W. T. F.

Britain I am disappoint. You do crap like this, and we can't claim Obamacare will ever work.

Mr Marx chose not to apply for residency status when he wed Mrs MarxIt meant the engineer could only stay in UK for up to six months at a time

Without any further reading it seems like he farked up.

As a non-resident he would not have to pay UK income tax, so it is possible he did not apply for UK residency to avoid paying tax, in which case it seems fair he has no right to stay now that he suddenly has a serious long term illness that will require lots of expensive treatment.

So when someone gets deported for not from the UK for not doing their paperwork and being a burden to the NHS he's a dumbass, but if someone here in the US gets deported for a lack of paperwork it's an outrage.

This is the worst attempt at wit and humor I've seen on Fark in a while. You illustrated the funny part of a previous post when we already got the joke. Then you continued by saying that it's sad that people who die while suffering aren't also overweight. Yeah, that's not the sad part, dumbass.

Day_Old_Dutchie:But the Home Office ruled he had become a burden on the taxpayer

Ah, yes. That very British organization that uses Orwell's 1984 as standard operating procedures.

The ones that tries to convince whatever party in power to censor the 'net and force every resident to carry around identification.

Guess what British people? These guys don't work for you.

The US is far closer to having an ID card than the UK. Americans more or less have to carry their driving licence and produce it on demand to any cop asking for it in many states.In the UK we don't have to carry our licences, or indeed any paperwork even when driving a car. And my driving licence doesn't even have my photograph on it and lives in a safe at home. And Brits don't have to give their name or address to a cop unless they are actually arrested for an offence. Many US states you are required to identify yourself to any cop who asks.

Starshines:Maybe he was asked to leave because he's clearly feeling up his daughter in photos.

I noticed that as well. Why grab up there and cup your daughter's breast when you could easily just go for the stomach area to hold her? Probably a spur-of-the-moment thing, but to be fair, it was only 1 photo, not photos.

The couple, from Chidham in West Sussex, who have a ten-year-old daughter, Alexandra, married in 2001 but Mr Marx chose not to apply for residency status. It meant the chemical engineer was allowed to stay in Britain for only six months at a time, but his work for an international company meant he often travelled abroad on business so the limit was not an issue.

So he was basically staying there as a tourist. And when he finally did apply for status it was after he was diagnosed with cancer and they didn't accept his application because he would be a burden on their medical system after having not paid anything into it. Should this couple really have been surprised by the result?

The Third Man:JosephFinn: The irony of this story being in the anti-immigrant, anti-health care Daily Fail is almost immeasurable.

Having been an immigrant to the UK myself, I can tell you that the UK is one of the most anti-immigrant nations in the world. Once I'd been married to a UK citizen and lived there long enough to acquire a passable British accent, I heard some incredible anti-foreigner abuse. The kind of stuff that Tea Party members would know better not to say in public, average English folks had no trouble casually saying to me. A real eye-opener. Mind you many of them were incredibly embarrassed when they found out I wasn't one of them, but I have no doubt they kept their views.

/Fact 1: Prime Minister David Cameron wanted to limit yearly visas, including student visas, to 10,000 a year. Because any more foreigners would surely overwhelm that country of 63 million.//Fact 2: Marrying a British citizen doesn't allow you to even apply for residency for five years.///Fact 3: You can be a full-time university student and a full-time employee and married to a UK citizen and still be rejected for permanent residency. Which is why I am typing this from the US and not the UK.

False. You can apply for residency instantly. After five years you can apply for a permanent resident card, but you can still be a legal, full, resident from the start.

/Non-UK born person living in the UK.//And I've worked with many non-UK born people in many places, from all over the world, and my experience is totally different to what you're claiming.

When I had the cancer they tried to return to me upon the country to where I was from. I am glad to have the graduate program doing the supporting of me because smoked fish and seaweed and leaches probably would not have done the working. Of course with such the treatment I would also not be doing the concerning of the secondary tumor as having cause from the chemical therapeutics and the radon.

This is the worst attempt at wit and humor I've seen on Fark in a while. You illustrated the funny part of a previous post when we already got the joke. Then you continued by saying that it's sad that people who die while suffering aren't also overweight. Yeah, that's not the sad part, dumbass.

Go to hell. We can share a pitcher of beer.

/First one's on me.

Yikes, I wasn't trying to be funny, but that pic does make me laugh, so maybe I was, but I really wasn't. Cancer sucks, and the treatment sucks too...this fact was more my point. Sorry, if I came off like a callous asshole. I'm really not.

Spiralmonkey:AGremlin: It sounds like his work required him to be out of the UK for extended periods of time. This would have made it difficult for him to meet time in country requirements to establish residency.

He was in a bit of Catch 22 situation.

He is married to an English woman and he could have applied any time he liked. This sounds much more like a tax dodge, getting his salary paid offshore type of thing where he doesn't have to contribute a penny to the NHS which he then needed later. He has health insurance, why not get them to pay up what the owes?

From TFA "Mr Marx chose not to apply for residency status."

He chose to remain a US citizen and not pay anything into the NHS, that's his choice to make. He chose to have private health insurance. I've looked down the back of the sofa, under the mat, behind the TV and I can't seem to find a fark to give.

So much this. If he had applied for residency he would have to pay UK and US taxes on his earnings. It would be pretty easy for him to get residency. Heck if I had tried that in the US I would have been deported and banned from ever entering the US again for taking advantage of the system, and that is with an American wife.

Flint Ironstag:The Third Man: JosephFinn: The irony of this story being in the anti-immigrant, anti-health care Daily Fail is almost immeasurable.

Having been an immigrant to the UK myself, I can tell you that the UK is one of the most anti-immigrant nations in the world. Once I'd been married to a UK citizen and lived there long enough to acquire a passable British accent, I heard some incredible anti-foreigner abuse. The kind of stuff that Tea Party members would know better not to say in public, average English folks had no trouble casually saying to me. A real eye-opener. Mind you many of them were incredibly embarrassed when they found out I wasn't one of them, but I have no doubt they kept their views.

/Fact 1: Prime Minister David Cameron wanted to limit yearly visas, including student visas, to 10,000 a year. Because any more foreigners would surely overwhelm that country of 63 million.//Fact 2: Marrying a British citizen doesn't allow you to even apply for residency for five years.///Fact 3: You can be a full-time university student and a full-time employee and married to a UK citizen and still be rejected for permanent residency. Which is why I am typing this from the US and not the UK.

False. You can apply for residency instantly. After five years you can apply for a permanent resident card, but you can still be a legal, full, resident from the start.

/Non-UK born person living in the UK.//And I've worked with many non-UK born people in many places, from all over the world, and my experience is totally different to what you're claiming.

Notice that I said "you can still be rejected". You can apply for residency instantly. That doesn't mean you'll get it. And when you don't, you will receive no explanation as to why you didn't.

And I defy you to have even the slightest dealings with UK Immigration--when you actually need something in person and have to go to Lunar House--and claim that the country isn't incredibly hostile to immigrants. My first dealings with them in person were over 20 years ago and I still remember it like it was yesterday. Bureaucracy and hatred at its finest. And I'll never forget the time a Tanzanian applicant I was chatting with at 4 am (because that's when you needed to be there to actually be seen by 5 pm, because lord forbid they hire enough staff to see everybody in a day) said to me as we finally got to the room where our numbers were called: "Well, you have a chance. You're white." Saw him leaving in tears later. Sure made me feel wonderful about my then-adopted country. Of course, my application was rejected too.

limeyfellow:Spiralmonkey: AGremlin: It sounds like his work required him to be out of the UK for extended periods of time. This would have made it difficult for him to meet time in country requirements to establish residency.

He was in a bit of Catch 22 situation.

He is married to an English woman and he could have applied any time he liked. This sounds much more like a tax dodge, getting his salary paid offshore type of thing where he doesn't have to contribute a penny to the NHS which he then needed later. He has health insurance, why not get them to pay up what the owes?

From TFA "Mr Marx chose not to apply for residency status."

He chose to remain a US citizen and not pay anything into the NHS, that's his choice to make. He chose to have private health insurance. I've looked down the back of the sofa, under the mat, behind the TV and I can't seem to find a fark to give.

So much this. If he had applied for residency he would have to pay UK and US taxes on his earnings. It would be pretty easy for him to get residency. Heck if I had tried that in the US I would have been deported and banned from ever entering the US again for taking advantage of the system, and that is with an American wife.

Came to say this. FTFA "Mr Marx chose not to apply for residency status." He chose not to apply for residency status to avoid British taxation, chosenot to enter into the "social contract" with the government (pay taxes, get services), and is now surprised that the government isn't going to provide those same services.