Yep shes been on that colour combo for awhile, reckon it must be her custom setup, sick!

Nice vid find too, I like Brian's setup shock fork, except weird bar stem man looks flat almost like the grips ends point sweep back down, noticed this on his other bikes, obviously he likes it. Good to see the Vector air on there, love that shock.

Nice vid find too, I like Brian's setup shock fork, except weird bar stem man looks flat almost like the grips ends point sweep back down, noticed this on his other bikes, obviously he likes it. Good to see the Vector air on there, love that shock.

Yeah, normally Im a low stack sort of guy, but on the HD anyways when I experimented I found a higher stack suited the bike for my style better.

Much better weighting on the front wheel, better climbing [weird I know]
Much better jumping control and confidence, something I don't normally lack especially the bike I was coming off.

Just better in every respect, no downsides, so its got me perturbed, I notice he really has to get his body down low on fast descents, again not sure if this is his style of late, or its sizing related.

Mine could be because I run a large frame, though not big, good fit for me though.
I'm 5'11"
40mm stem, 760 bars
currently bike is in 140 chip/150 fork mode.

So this might well change when in 160mode.

Will be interesting, I found Fabian's veiw on this fascinating, he is of the higher stack short stem wide bar theory after numerous tests developing the zero stem idea for Mondraker.

He now rides a 50mm 10deg rise Renthal Duo stem/Fat bar combo, high rise bar too, with quite a bit of stack under the stem.

Canyon frame is probably shorter reach than his Foxy was, but interesting, Sam Hill does a similar thing has for many years, while everyone else went low, he went high haha.

I see AC is running a Havoc stem which I think is only available in 40mm wonder if its 35mm dia, seems like pretty flat bar rise as well, but a spacer under that booty stem!

Right, it appears that the smallest size the Vector comes in is a 200x57 = 7.875"x2.25". The HDR 650b comes with a 7.875x2.0, stock. So, if he isn't running a longer shock (which wouldn't make sense handling-wise, especially with a 140 ip front), he's either using the longer stroke with a bottom-out spacer or he's using a longer stroke and getting more than 130mm of travel. I'm personally interested in which it is.

Right, it appears that the smallest size the Vector comes in is a 200x57 = 7.875"x2.25". The HDR 650b comes with a 7.875x2.0, stock. So, if he isn't running a longer shock (which wouldn't make sense handling-wise, especially with a 140 ip front), he's either using the longer stroke with a bottom-out spacer or he's using a longer stroke and getting more than 130mm of travel. I'm personally interested in which it is.

Maybe when they tested his setup with that shock with the air out it still cleared the seat tube, that would be cool, note he's running a 2.1 Nevagal rear, 2.35front so that would make sense, but yeah it would be nice to get proper details not just basic overviews

I notice he does have a couple of spacers under his stem on the slide show, but didn't look like that in the vid, might be my eyes lol.

I got my Marzocchi from that place (Bike Co) and it wouldn't surprise me if they have modded the X Fusion. At the very least there will be a bottom out spacer. They may have also adjusted the ramp up. My zocchi need to be slammed to get anywhere near full travel - but its nice to know there's a bit left for when things get ugly.
Hey Mav, you get your xfusion stuff? The guy is down here in chch right? What are the prices like?

I got my Marzocchi from that place (Bike Co) and it wouldn't surprise me if they have modded the X Fusion. At the very least there will be a bottom out spacer. They may have also adjusted the ramp up. My zocchi need to be slammed to get anywhere near full travel - but its nice to know there's a bit left for when things get ugly.
Hey Mav, you get your xfusion stuff? The guy is down here in chch right? What are the prices like?

Yep, KRD imports, really good to deal with been real impressed.
Pricing, hard one as the Vector Air anywhere is expensive, a CCDBa in US is slightly less, so here its up theyre, not the most expensive, but dearer than say a Monarch plus, but cheaper than the new Fox Float X.

Fork is much cheaper than a Fox, but still dearer than the new Pike depending on who and what deal you can get.

Pike and Monarch work out about the same!

Key reason for me is serviceability and performance and fork travel setting is easy and a much better system than Fox"s spacer.

Unsure how easy the Pike will be to work on, easy than the Fox, but XFusion is stupidly simple and they get a big tick for that, its how they should all be, bit why Im sort of ansi about Fox right now, major pia and Im over compaines that make it hard as possible deliberately, DVO have huge potential for this as well, they think about the riders.

At this level we should all be able to do it, whether we want to or choose an LBS should be up to us, Im all for the LBS, but basic stuff for experienced riders should not be that hard.

+1 on self-serviceability, my Vengeance HLR Air was easy peasy to work on - the travel adjustment using the ladder pin system takes maybe 20mins total. The fork feels like a dream.
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I did not know the Xfusion forks are so easy to work on. I might have to ditch my float 36 160mm for a xfusion. I like doing my own maintance and I tend to do alot of my own tunning by messing with oil volumes and weights. Any videos that you can link that show how to rebuild a xfusion fork so I can see the process?

We are totally hijacking this thread but did you recycle the original crush washer or did you install a new one? If a new one, where did you get it? I have not serviced the Vengeance yet but I worked on a Velvet and I managed to reuse the original washer IIRC.

I just re-used the original crush washer, the instructions made no mention of requiring a new one or checking the original for wear/damage. Besides the ease of service I'm really impressed with the damping of both fork & shock. My only gripe (and it is minor) were the decals/graphics on the fork, a little weaksauce if you ask me so I pulled them off and made my own.