I asked O'Neill where that's headed: The bank is taking over the office part of the project? "No way." So what is this, renegotiation by other means? "I like that. That's exactly what it is. Renegotiation by other means. Can I use that?"

You're still building the store piece, though? "Wegman's is planning to open in June. Target is well on their way." The fancy movie theater? "Next year." Hotels? "Not yet."

You have other office tenants? "We do." Signed? "Signed." Like who? "The market knows who it is." People in the market told me they thought the bank is taking over that piece. "No way." They're not big companies like VWR? "We're talking about 50,000, 75,000 square feet." You broke it in pieces. "Mid-size."

And those 753 housing units? "Residences are moving forward to completion. Late 2010, early 2011." Condos? "We're renting, to start." You have residential tenants? "A backlog equivalent to 300 percent of available property." Old folks, empty-nesters? "A lot of young people from Vanguard and other companies."

Is Vanguard one of your office tenants, since they don't seem to be building in Uwchlan after all? "I'd like that."