I have to agree that Hitler probably played the biggest role in the eventual defeat of Germany in WW2.

The key moments were

1. Changing his tactical attacks on British air power in the Battle of Britain to a civilian based terror, which gave the RAF much needed breathing space to recover.

2. Attack into the Slavic states stopped at the Greek border. He should have charged through neutral Turkey and into Iraq to present the Russians with a two fronted horror scenario. This would have presented the British in North Africa with a simiar horror scenario

3. Invade Russia. Not a good idea.... ever.

4. Declare war on the USA in December 1941... cost the war for Germany.

Now the only real possibility where he made a tactical error was in changing the Battle of Britain into an attack aimed at civilians rather than the military. Destruction of the RAF would have paved the way for an airborne invasion of the island, which would have stood very good chances of success given the state of the British home defence in the second half of 1942

The second option of invading Turkey and aiming at the Arabic oilfields was not a political option because Iraq was pro German, Turkey was neutral but leaning in favour of Germany and the Levant was under Vichy French control.

The third key turning point was never going to happen. the avowed enemy of Nazism was Jewish Communism and nothing epitomised this like the Soviet communist system. Ideologically Hitler could never have balked from invading the USSR. Even then, if he had treated the Ukranians, Bellorussians, Balts and Russians as allies instead of scum in the way of the Hoch Deutsch lebensraum theory he could conceivably have won the war in the east.

The fourth choice, was forced on him because the Japanese Zaibatsu worked themselves into such a fever pitch of war excitement they actually believed they could go to war with the USA and win.

The bottom line is that from a treaty and political ideological perspective, Hitler lost the war when the first panzer crossed the Polish frontier on 1 September 1939

Hitler had no choice to invade Russia..The judaic communists
wanted to destroy Germany..
His mistake was to not having used the Ukrainians to finish Russia.

Your posts look strange until we realize that you are actually very happy the Germans lost the war. Shown in your snide comments like "they never quite figures out how to walk on water. maybe it was a deficiency in their training," and of course, "Herr Hitler." It is common to add a title before the name of an opponent you want to insult, as you then imply that he demands praise, which would be arrogant of him. It is a quick form of the "strawman argument," misrepresenting an opponent to make him easier to attack. Very common.

Unlike the case with most posters here, who may be angry at the Germans for making mistakes and losing, you are glad they lost.

"How many deals Hitlers had broken already." What deals would those be? That he took all of Czechoslovakia? So, he should not make the only country that opposed the Jews stronger by including more territory. He should make sure that those who oppose the Jews were as weak and small as possible? And for what reason would that be?

Btw, he didn't "break any deal" by attacking Poland. The Poles treated the German territories they occupied since WWI as crap, and the Germans tried over and over and over again to reach an agreement, but the German dictator wanted war, knowing he had the secret deal with the British Empire in his back pocket.

Heck, even Churchill said those territories rightfully belonged to Germany. And Chamberlain said to old man Kennedy that he believed the Jews were pushing Britain into war with Germany. Which side should be supported in that historical conflict, do you think?

Also, have you ever made any post that supports Germany in anything? What has caused your hatred of Germans over there in New Zealand? School textbooks and Hollywood movies about Nazis? I can understand criticism of German decisions in the war, but I can't understand glee over the fact that Germany was defeated and destroyed.

have aid multiple times I was all for a German/Britsh/USA alliance against the USSR. Just not the Nazi party itself. At the end of the day Hitler was still a dictator and not a very nice one either. He also made mistakes and millions of whites died because of his actions. He also made alot of mistakes in war strategy. Germany had no historical right to the Sudetenland or Austria/ There were Germans in my country as well I suppose that entites the Germans to parts of my country? Most European countries had various miniorities in them espicially near border areas. Rather than go to war perhaps they should have encouraged them to immigrate back to the Reich rather than live in Poland/Austria/Czech republic or whatever.

Several families in my hometown were from WW2 europe (Dutch, Danes, Czechs, more Dutch). None of them enjoyed the German occupation for some reason. The ex veterens speak higher of the Germans as our army was in the desert and later Italy facing Rommel who is portrayed reasonably positivly here.

Yes I'm glad Germany lost but I kinda like Pattons plan of rearming the Wehrmacht and continuing the war into the USSR.

have aid multiple times I was all for a German/Britsh/USA alliance against the USSR. Just not the Nazi party itself. At the end of the day Hitler was still a dictator and not a very nice one either. He also made mistakes and millions of whites died because of his actions. He also made alot of mistakes in war strategy. Germany had no historical right to the Sudetenland or Austria/ There were Germans in my country as well I suppose that entites the Germans to parts of my country? Most European countries had various miniorities in them espicially near border areas. Rather than go to war perhaps they should have encouraged them to immigrate back to the Reich rather than live in Poland/Austria/Czech republic or whatever.

Several families in my hometown were from WW2 europe (Dutch, Danes, Czechs, more Dutch). None of them enjoyed the German occupation for some reason. The ex veterens speak higher of the Germans as our army was in the desert and later Italy facing Rommel who is portrayed reasonably positivly here.

Yes I'm glad Germany lost but I kinda like Pattons plan of rearming the Wehrmacht and continuing the war into the USSR.

Germans had no historic right to the Sudetenland? Am I hearing that correctly?

Yep. Just becuase it had a Germans living there or that it was part of Germany in the past, it wasn't part of the territories stripped off Germany in WW1. Plenty of other ethnic groups could lay a claim parts of Europe based on "historical rights" which is a tenuous arguement at best.

Maybe we should return the Germany back to Italy as it was once Roman ruled. Stupid arguement yyes but thats kinda my point.

They did - the 44 designates the year of model (as in MP43 & MG42) and mass production started in mid-1944. By this time Germany needed to mass produce everything (especially trained soldiers) and churning out half a million of these was a decent effort. Not so sure about the ammo though, that was always a problem for other areas e.g. artillery - not much use having a gun comparable to the much cheaper and easier produced PPS if it has nothing to fire.

It did - June is in Summer in the Western hemisphere.

They did - they formed up volunteers willing to fight into Waffen SS units and POW's unable to fight into construction battalions and workers for factories. They also forceably removed people from their countries of origin to work in factories / farms / houses in the Reich.

Russians could also choose to fight in the Russia Liberation Army formed by Germany (commonly known as the Vlasov army) and there were also national armies formed from Ukrainians and other non-Russian Soviet states - these were often used as security details in dealing with Partisan activities.

And how would you force unwilling POW's to fight for you? Surely forming an armoured division of, say, highly trained captured hostile French soldiers and providing them with MkV & VI Pzr's wouldn't have produced much results other than a drive to allied lines? The aim of capturing armies is to disarm them and remove them from the enemies OOB, not rearm and return them.

Hmmm I guess I have been exposed to false info I guess you cant trust the Media and the books these days

Yep. Just becuase it had a Germans living there or that it was part of Germany in the past, it wasn't part of the territories stripped off Germany in WW1. Plenty of other ethnic groups could lay a claim parts of Europe based on "historical rights" which is a tenuous arguement at best.

Maybe we should return the Germany back to Italy as it was once Roman ruled. Stupid arguement yyes but thats kinda my point.

Yes, it is a stupid argument but no, I do not get your point. Who did have a historic right to the hundreds of German medieval towns, old German castles, German churches, German homes, German businesses, German railroad tracks, German electric companies, Germans schools, German resorts, etc in old Bohemia..all of which were brazenly stolen when millions of ethnic Germans were murdered and/or expelled from their centuries old homes in the vicious ethnic cleansing at war's end??

have aid multiple times I was all for a German/Britsh/USA alliance against the USSR. Just not the Nazi party itself. At the end of the day Hitler was still a dictator and not a very nice one either. He also made mistakes and millions of whites died because of his actions. He also made alot of mistakes in war strategy. Germany had no historical right to the Sudetenland or Austria/ There were Germans in my country as well I suppose that entites the Germans to parts of my country? Most European countries had various miniorities in them espicially near border areas. Rather than go to war perhaps they should have encouraged them to immigrate back to the Reich rather than live in Poland/Austria/Czech republic or whatever.

Several families in my hometown were from WW2 europe (Dutch, Danes, Czechs, more Dutch). None of them enjoyed the German occupation for some reason. The ex veterens speak higher of the Germans as our army was in the desert and later Italy facing Rommel who is portrayed reasonably positivly here.

Yes I'm glad Germany lost but I kinda like Pattons plan of rearming the Wehrmacht and continuing the war into the USSR.

Where to begin. First of all, you are obviously not a WN. "I'm glad Germany lost." You are happy the Jews and their lackeys won the war. You support the anti-White side against the pro-White side. You support the side that murdered two million German civilians after the war, raped millions of German, Romanian and Croat women for the crime of opposing the Jews, and went on with an agenda of racial integration and non-White immigration. You are happy the Germans lost so that Europe could become the swamp it is today. Good to see you say it openly.

New Zealander, nice. I am a European. Unlike you, I have to live in the Europe you applaud, where the anti-German side won. Nice to hear your opinion on the subject.

--"Hitler was a dictator" - So? Heads up: most heads of state throughout history have been dictators.

--"millions of whites died because of his actions" - No, they died because of Britain's decision to attack Germany. You forgot that detail. Germany's attempt to take back the German lands taken from them in WWI did not lead to millions of deaths. Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin were the ones who wanted to kill in the millions, which they proved by killing millions after the war. Neville Chamberlain said to Kennedy that the Jews were pushing for a world war through their media, finance and political connections. Churchill wanted a war against civilians, Hitler did not. Roosevelt set out to attack German warships and freeze Japanese oil imports with the express purpose of starting a world war, which he revealed to his cabinet. Churchill wanted to drop anthrax bombs on the defeated Germans in 1944, to kill as many Germans as possible, but he ran out of time. By the way, the Poles were also led by a dictator. So by your logic, you shouldn't support Poland.

--"Germany had no historical right to the Sudetenland or Austria" - The Sudetenland and Austria were German lands. That they were not part of the state called Germany is clever reasoning, but Germans themselves felt differently. And funny how you even oppose the union of Germany and Austria, which at least half the Austrians supported. And I don't care one bit about those who opposed it, influenced by the Jew-dominated Austrian media and by the communists. By the way, there was a thing called the Soviet Union in Europe, along with a Jew-loyal British Empire and a Jew-loyal French Empire. Those who would defend against those anti-White forces would do best in uniting their people to gain strength.

--"Rather than go to war perhaps they should have encouraged them to immigrate back to the Reich" But wait! Didn't you say those Germans didn't belong to Germany? And now you say they should immigrate BACK to the Reich? You are contradicting yourself only two sentences apart. Any comment on that?

--"There were Germans in my country as well I suppose that entites the Germans to parts of my country?" -This doesn't deserve an answer. And this shows how you are only arguing out of an agenda, to attack the German side in that war no matter what. You put your goal first, and arguments come later.

--"None of them enjoyed the German occupation for some reason." -In case you didn't know, Germany occupied Denmark and the Netherlands to prevent a landing of troops from the British Empire on the continent. I guess you haven't heard of the planned British invasion of Norway. And there was a war going on, because of the British and French declaring war on Germany, so I can imagine they "didn't like it," neither did the Germans. Hmm, should we decide what side to support depending on what the people you have met say? Tell me, did they complain about the Jewish power in Europe? Didn't think so. Which shows how they didn't know anything about what was going on, so I don't care much about their opinion of what needed to be done.

Yep but why was the ethnic cleansing carried out? Not claiming it was right but they were purged due to German nationalists thinking that every German land beyond the borders of Germany should be returned to the Reich. The law of unintended consequences. It was wrong and it was ethnic cleansing no two ways about it.

Germany didn't exist as a nation until 1871. Any German living beyond the borders of Germany should have immigrated there for example if they were that worried about living with other Germans. To someone living outside Europe it seems alot of the wars over there have occured due to different ethnic groups living closly togather and any line drawn on a map isn't going to keep everyone happy- see the Balkens for example.

Even with a substantial minority in border regions of whatever part of Europe having another country claiming those regions is likely to provoke a war.

Where to begin. First of all, you are obviously not a WN. "I'm glad Germany lost." You are happy the Jews and their lackeys won the war. You support the anti-White side against the pro-White side. You support the side that murdered two million German civilians after the war, raped millions of German, Romanian and Croat women for the crime of opposing the Jews, and went on with an agenda of racial integration and non-White immigration. You are happy the Germans lost so that Europe could become the swamp it is today. Good to see you say it openly.

New Zealander, nice. I am a European. Unlike you, I have to live in the Europe you applaud, where the anti-German side won. Nice to hear your opinion on the subject.

--"Hitler was a dictator" - So? Heads up: most heads of state throughout history have been dictators.

--"millions of whites died because of his actions" - No, they died because of Britain's decision to attack Germany. You forgot that detail. Germany's attempt to take back the German lands taken from them in WWI did not lead to millions of deaths. Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin were the ones who wanted to kill in the millions, which they proved by killing millions after the war. Neville Chamberlain said to Kennedy that the Jews were pushing for a world war through their media, finance and political connections. Churchill wanted a war against civilians, Hitler did not. Roosevelt set out to attack German warships and freeze Japanese oil imports with the express purpose of starting a world war, which he revealed to his cabinet. Churchill wanted to drop anthrax bombs on the defeated Germans in 1944, to kill as many Germans as possible, but he ran out of time. By the way, the Poles were also led by a dictator. So by your logic, you shouldn't support Poland.

--"Germany had no historical right to the Sudetenland or Austria" - The Sudetenland and Austria were German lands. That they were not part of the state called Germany is clever reasoning, but Germans themselves felt differently. And funny how you even oppose the union of Germany and Austria, which at least half the Austrians supported. And I don't care one bit about those who opposed it, influenced by the Jew-dominated Austrian media and by the communists. By the way, there was a thing called the Soviet Union in Europe, along with a Jew-loyal British Empire and a Jew-loyal French Empire. Those who would defend against those anti-White forces would do best in uniting their people to gain strength.

--"Rather than go to war perhaps they should have encouraged them to immigrate back to the Reich" But wait! Didn't you say those Germans didn't belong to Germany? And now you say they should immigrate BACK to the Reich? You are contradicting yourself only two sentences apart. Any comment on that?

--"There were Germans in my country as well I suppose that entites the Germans to parts of my country?" -This doesn't deserve an answer. And this shows how you are only arguing out of an agenda, to attack the German side in that war no matter what. You put your goal first, and arguments come later.

--"None of them enjoyed the German occupation for some reason." -In case you didn't know, Germany occupied Denmark and the Netherlands to prevent a landing of troops from the British Empire on the continent. I guess you haven't heard of the planned British invasion of Norway. And there was a war going on, because of the British and French declaring war on Germany, so I can imagine they "didn't like it," neither did the Germans. Hmm, should we decide what side to support depending on what the people you have met say? Tell me, did they complain about the Jewish power in Europe? Didn't think so. Which shows how they didn't know anything about what was going on, so I don't care much about their opinion of what needed to be done.

Problem being Hitler wasn't a WN either he was a German Nationalist. You are very good at taking things either out of context or trying to put words in my mouth. The Nazi regime was a morally bankrupt abomination of the white race and inflicted more harm on us than good. I'm not contradicting anything. If an ethnic German wants to live in Germany he or she should go live their. Whats hard to understand about that? The German government could have passed laws and offered other incentives for ethnic Germans to return home.

Austria didn't get a choice to return to Germany and IIRC the plebisite they conducted there was done after the German government had already occupied the whole country. I have no problem if they had a free and fair referendum on uniting with Germany and chose to do so assuming of course Germany was happy to have them.

In the Sudentenlands case they didn't have the blessing of the Czech government to leave unlike the Czech/Slovak split of the 90's which was reasonably peaceful. Hitler got the Sudetenland like he wanted and then took the Czech part as well.

Yep but why was the ethnic cleansing carried out? Not claiming it was right but they were purged due to German nationalists thinking that every German land beyond the borders of Germany should be returned to the Reich. The law of unintended consequences. It was wrong and it was ethnic cleansing no two ways about it.

Germany didn't exist as a nation until 1871. Any German living beyond the borders of Germany should have immigrated there for example if they were that worried about living with other Germans. To someone living outside Europe it seems alot of the wars over there have occured due to different ethnic groups living closly togather and any line drawn on a map isn't going to keep everyone happy- see the Balkens for example.

Even with a substantial minority in border regions of whatever part of Europe having another country claiming those regions is likely to provoke a war.

You do not speak of Czech nationalism, though, do you? You also do not think the ethnic cleansing of Germans was "wrong" or you would not be justifying it! You have issued a rationalization for it and an excuse for it. The Germans in "Czech" lands (Bohemia), for example, had been there for many centuries and it had not started wars in many centuries. Germany had every right to protect German interests and investments and in itself, it did not bring about defeat. Furthermore,I agree with Vedimer in his assessment of you.