I'm sorry that you were offended by what I meant as a tongue-in-cheek clarification. My apologies.

And the parentheses around the "large" comment were meant to separate it from your comment - it was just an explanation of LHC, not a rebuttal to you.

And you totally missed the joke about Alice. I'm sure that the people at CERN that I worked with on the LHC got it.

No offence taken
If you feel like explaining the 'Alice' joke, I'd like to hear that, or is that an inside joke? Are you sure, people working at CERN, have time, or an interest, to read up on MacRumors?

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No offence taken
If you feel like explaining the 'Alice' joke, I'd like to hear that, or is that an inside joke? Are you sure, people working at CERN, have time, or an interest, to read up on MacRumors?

"Alice" is one of the experiments at CERN on the LHC that will be doing collisions with lead (Pb) nuclei.

If I have an internet connection, I can do almost everything that I can do from Mountain View. If a DVD needs to be inserted or a dead disk swapped - I have hourly staff to do that.

The high-paying jobs for the Reno data center won't be in Nevada, they'll be in Cupertino.

I'm not looking to work for Apple for the sake of being around dumb apple equipment, I"m not a apple fanboy.

If you live Reno (which you don't)
then you would know that people claw at minimum wage jobs,
The city's only "real" source of income is the taxes on casinos.

I may be wrong, but I thought Apple offered good pay at the entry level.
even if hourly.

If I'm wrong however, then I guess the local Reno news was right.

Not everyone here in Reno is excited about this,
some people think Apple is just here for lower taxes
there is already an Apple office here that's just empty room with a phone, so Apple can claim taxes here.

I think that's called tax fraud,

I won't be surprised since Apple already does it.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57587335-37/apple-owes-france-$6.5-million-in-unpaid-taxes/

Use the solar power to pump water into a high reservoir, then generate hydro power at night.

That would work great if you have unlimited amounts of money.

Consider that you will need to build enough solar to handle all of your needs.

Then you will need to more than double the amount of solar power, in order to both meet your needs and power the water pumps.

Then you will need to build a completely separate hydro plant big enough to meet all your needs.

So yeah - much more than triple the capital investment would cover it, if you ignore the huge price of building a reservoir on top of a mountain and the cost of the transmission lines from the mountain to your data center.

It would work great if you didn't much care how much it might cost.

PS - pumped storage works economically only where there is excess capacity which you use at night, when electricity is cheap. Then it is effective as a financial arbitrage; you end up with LOTS less electricity than you started with. It is NOT economically effective to use high priced electricity to pump during the day, only to burn the electricity at night when it would be cheap to just buy it. And it is NOT a good way to "conserve" electricity because MUCH more is used than what is recovered.

In Germany, due to cheap afternoon solar power, pumped hydro operators have been running on two cycles a day, not just the normal one at night. Essentially, this means that you’re doubling the potential of existing pumped hydro infrastructure.

Pumped storage is the largest-capacity form of grid energy storage available, and, as of March 2012, the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI) reports that PSH accounts for more than 99% of bulk storage capacity worldwide, representing around 127,000 MW.[1] PSH reported energy efficiency varies in practice between 70% and 80%, with some claiming up to 87%.

Pumped hydro is real, and can be cost effective.

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- This datacenter will require very few actual workers. The big deal wasn't about the jobs this will create, it was about Apple being in the area.
- Your best option to work for Apple would be at the store at the Summit. Even then the pay isn't great.
- There are plenty of jobs in Reno. I'm assuming you have neither experience, nor education or expertise? It's going to be hard getting a good job anywhere without any of that.
- Consider construction. Housing starts in Reno are taking off like crazy because of low inventory and there aren't enough workers.

Good luck. This post isn't meant to put you down but you aren't in reality right now either.

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Originally Posted by tomguy99

I'm not looking to work for Apple for the sake of being around dumb apple equipment, I"m not a apple fanboy.

If you live Reno (which you don't)
then you would know that people claw at minimum wage jobs,
The city's only "real" source of income is the taxes on casinos.

I may be wrong, but I thought Apple offered good pay at the entry level.
even if hourly.

If I'm wrong however, then I guess the local Reno news was right.

Not everyone here in Reno is excited about this,
some people think Apple is just here for lower taxes
there is already an Apple office here that's just empty room with a phone, so Apple can claim taxes here.

I think that's called tax fraud,

I won't be surprised since Apple already does it.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57587335-37/apple-owes-france-$6.5-million-in-unpaid-taxes/