Post by woobs on Jan 19, 2013 15:57:12 GMT -5

i really dont understand what the big deal is about the billing order of artists? Does it really matter? No, it doesnt. the fact that the band is playing is all that matters. Put SPM on the 2nd line, put him on the first, we all know how good he is and how amazing the show will be. No point in debating spots on the bill. IMO

It matters to me, because I have a bet going with Phi that Mumford will be top 3.

Also it matters in terms of what slot/stage an act is playing. This matters to the overall experience. Take for example if in 2014 MMJ is billed 3rd. This means they will headline the What, which means a bigger deal and a bigger show than if they just subheadlined.

Works on a smaller scale as well. UM fans would be stoked to see them graduate from a tent to Which. The band would be aware of said "promotion" and thus be inclined to play a special show.

Well of course it will matter if you place bets on who is where on the list. As far as your other point, I understand what you are saying. But shouldn't every band try and put on a special show no matter what stage/tent/time slot they are playing on? Is being at Bonnaroo not a good enough reason to play a special show? Im sure that it happens but I find it to be very naive for a band/artist to say, "well we didnt get bumped up to a stage this year and our time slot isnt what we deserve, so we're just gonna get out there and go through the motions."

Post by newnoise522 on Jan 19, 2013 16:18:17 GMT -5

I'll give you Beasties as I was there & didn't expect it to be their final performance.

Both Jay-z and the Beasties weren't in opposed.

I say Jay-z should count as a headliner Because he closed out the what and his set started unopposed (like Phish 09). Beasties were a pre HL (not unopposed didn't close out the what not quite prime time)

Post by itrainmonkeys on Jan 19, 2013 16:21:37 GMT -5

I say Jay-z should count as a headliner Because he closed out the what and his set started unopposed (like Phish 09). Beasties were a pre HL (not unopposed didn't close out the what not quite prime time)

Post by newnoise522 on Jan 19, 2013 16:33:08 GMT -5

I say Jay-z should count as a headliner Because he closed out the what and his set started unopposed (like Phish 09). Beasties were a pre HL (not unopposed didn't close out the what not quite prime time)

Post by cwagiskingofthing on Jan 19, 2013 16:59:06 GMT -5

i really dont understand what the big deal is about the billing order of artists? Does it really matter? No, it doesnt. the fact that the band is playing is all that matters. Put SPM on the 2nd line, put him on the first, we all know how good he is and how amazing the show will be. No point in debating spots on the bill. IMO

It matters to me, because I have a bet going with Phi that Mumford will be top 3.

Also it matters in terms of what slot/stage an act is playing. This matters to the overall experience. Take for example if in 2014 MMJ is billed 3rd. This means they will headline the What, which means a bigger deal and a bigger show than if they just subheadlined.

Works on a smaller scale as well. UM fans would be stoked to see them graduate from a tent to Which. The band would be aware of said "promotion" and thus be inclined to play a special show.

You are late to the party bud. UM 'graduated' back in 08

and why would they be 'inclined to play a special show' just because they are on which?

Post by mattlikesrock on Jan 19, 2013 20:25:30 GMT -5

It matters to me, because I have a bet going with Phi that Mumford will be top 3.

Also it matters in terms of what slot/stage an act is playing. This matters to the overall experience. Take for example if in 2014 MMJ is billed 3rd. This means they will headline the What, which means a bigger deal and a bigger show than if they just subheadlined.

Works on a smaller scale as well. UM fans would be stoked to see them graduate from a tent to Which. The band would be aware of said "promotion" and thus be inclined to play a special show.

You are late to the party bud. UM 'graduated' back in 08

and why would they be 'inclined to play a special show' just because they are on which?

You're missing the point. Replace the UM name with anything else. It's a valid point, and he's right. It has some effect on things.

Post by postjack on Jan 19, 2013 23:31:35 GMT -5

I was unaware UM had played Which before, but I was just trying to use them as an example. Apologies for my mistake. Having said that, the analogy stands. A band moving to a bigger stage because of a growth in popularity is a topic that is of interest to some fans.

Post by FuzzyWarbles on Jan 20, 2013 0:06:26 GMT -5

What you got back home, little sister, to play your fuzzy warbles on? I bet you got little save pitiful, portable picnic players. Come with uncle and hear all proper! Hear angel trumpets and devil trombones. You are invited.

Post by Katy Mae on Jan 20, 2013 0:14:11 GMT -5

I think the mock I posted a couple pages back makes the most sense, with Mumford opening for Macca Friday, and co headliners Saturday, like Stevie and Jay Z in 2010. Mumford gets to be on the What and open for a fellow Brit, maybe even coming out for a guest spot with him for a song. Sure, they could headline Saturday, but this scenario is the most desirable, IMO.

Post by cursedlono on Jan 20, 2013 2:05:53 GMT -5

I wish Burial did shows I first heard him a couple of years ago on Radio Bonnaroo I evne got excited and made a post and now a certain members avatar is driving me nuts I loved that dark sound! Unfortunately after looking it up I found out he does not do shows I might just order some vinyl cd's or whatever and throw them on stage at a EDM artist and see if they pick up the challenge. FML that is as close as any of us will ever get to experience that type of bliss.

Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Jan 20, 2013 9:25:16 GMT -5

Mumford is going to headline Saturday. Believe it. They sold more albums in a week than Arcade Fire sold in the entire year before they headlined. They are not a great headliner, but they are good enough, and El Cappitan lives for good enough.

Post by bcore15 on Jan 20, 2013 10:51:03 GMT -5

Atleast i wont show up 2 hours late like Kanye or scream annoyingly like Bjork. How about Cypress hill or Dre instead of Kanye. I would rather see half dead ozzie on stage over Bjork. The lineup would not be something proud to brag about if those two artists are on top

Post by Boston Powers on Jan 20, 2013 11:44:25 GMT -5

Mumford > McCartneyBjork > SoundgardenSunday: DMB or WSP

I know it might be an unpopular opinion but I think Soundgarden could be an unopposed headliner if they're on the same bill as McCartney. They'd satisfy a metal/grunge/alt-rock aspect of the lineup. They have a great sense of spectacle and experience with huge crowds and giant venues - compared to Mumford (do they even have a drummer?) which is basically the same setup as the Avetts