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man, i think i haven't listened to "A Dark Knight" deep enough. so many things i picked up from listening to it recently. oh by the way, it's Dunkirk that's making me go back and listen to the old scores.

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Mike

2019-02-08 01:02:05

"A Dark Knight" is honestly one of my favorite Hans suites.

It's not as beautiful as "Marry Me" or as bombastic as "Wayne Manor," but it's very powerful in a subdued way. The first couple minutes of the suite (the finale of the movie) are a slow rise from the dark and moody music that's the rest of the score, and the section from about 4:00-7:00 perfectly encapsulates that Batman is heroic, but he needs to make awful, sacrificial decisions. The first half of that suite is a musical representation of Batman, the aspiration (first three minutes), followed by Batman, the reality (the next three or four minutes). And it works really well.

kingfannypack is the MILFcommander

2019-02-08 08:08:14

I wish all Hans Zimmer scores had suites like Wayne Manor, Marry Me, A Dark Knight, The Da Vinci Code suite, or Man of Steel Sketchbook.

Mike

2019-02-08 08:38:23

I would say the majority of them do, these days... Or do you mean, you wish they were always released on the albums?

Edmund Meinerts

2019-02-08 14:15:13

I'm not the world's biggest fan of the Dark Knight scores, but that suite is fantastic. It more or less encapsulates the entire trilogy for me.

Mike

2019-02-08 16:54:01

I find it kinda interesting that Zimmer never talks about that theme in interviews... He talks about the two-note theme a lot....the Joker theme...the Bane theme...but that one, for all its importance in the second and third movies, seems to go under the radar. I think I did see Hans say somewhere that it was an update on the Batman Begins training scene music. That's the only time I know of, though.

Can anyone provide me with ideas or information on how to replace disc two of this set without shelling out ridiculous amounts of money? For the second time ever I attempted to take disc two out to make a copy of it and, while being extremely careful and not pulling to much, it cracked straight down the middle.

What garbage packaging. Would it have been that much harder to put a small tray back in there? The walls are already thick enough. Anyways any information/help would be great. Thanks

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Anonymous

2015-01-18 19:14:27

Yes. It's called torrent

Boldizar

2015-01-21 13:00:03

Yea, obviously I did that already. However, I would like to replace the disc. I sent a few emails out to a few Warner Brothers websites.

In one interview for this movie Hans addresses the "lack of traditional theme" criticism and says, "There was this big, more traditional theme at one point and it took me six months to talk Chris out of using it....."

Was he referring the unused section of Like a Dog Chasing Cars?

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Edmund Meinerts

2014-05-18 00:28:52

Why would he write a big theme and then talk Chris OUT of using it?

Mike

2014-05-18 00:41:48

Yeah, that was my reaction, too....

Anonymous

2014-12-05 00:49:00

According to Hans' own words, we've still never heard that "more traditional theme", so it isn't "Like a Dog Chasing Cars". He said and I quote:

"Because we were trying some very different things. I remember having a safety heroic tune written, which I didn't like very much, but it was in case anyone would turn round to us and go, "hang on, he's supposed to be a superhero and you're doing this two-note thing here!" On the second one, the super heroic thing came out of the drawer and Chris said, 'I quite like this...' And I kept saying, 'But the character hasn't earned it!" **By the time we got to the third one, really what the character became was the antithesis to that theme so it's in a bin somewhere**. The way we work is, we put everything, every idea into the movie that we're in front of. We don't ever think if there's going to be another. You don't keep anything in reserve, either."

Mike

2014-12-05 00:58:49

That's interesting and disappointing. :( I wonder whether he's used it in another score since, or whether it's still hidden away somewhere...

Adam

2014-12-05 04:01:38

What's the source of this article?? How do we know Hans didn't slip it into TDKR somewhere??

Maybe Hybrid Soldier can answer for us

Anonymous

2014-12-05 15:27:21

Adam, it was an Empire Magazine career interview on MoS, TDKR, and other stuff...and anyhow, his comment makes it look like it wasn't even in TDKR, because note that he says, "By the time we got to the third one, the character was the antithesis of that theme so it's in a bin somewhere..."

Hey, does anyone know anything about a 3CD promotional version of this? I found a seemingly alternative version of Like a Dog Chasing Cars on Youtube (watch?v=ogED1jkr5QM) and someone in the comments section mentioned it. I haven't heard this track before, it's really neat and I'm wondering what other albums are really out there.

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Anonymous

2014-10-12 05:08:02

Richard, it's exactly what one of the users o YouTue say it is: "Like A Dog Chasing Cars" (New Batman Theme) but the tone/pitching is higher. It's that simple. There's no 3CD set going around that's bs. There is the standard OST. There is this 2-Disc Collector's Edition. There is the FYC Promo. There is the Complete Score which is an unofficial release. That is all.

Richard N

2014-10-12 05:19:09

I've listened to Dog Chasing Cars tons of times. I know an alt. track when I see one. I hear things in this that aren't found elsewhere, so either it's from the recording sessions, (the "Complete Score"), or it's from this 3cd thing. I'm aware it may be bs, but what I mean is some form of recording sessions just put together to make an unofficial release. Just wondering the details here, that's all.

NM

2014-10-12 05:39:31

Not an alt, simple pitch/tone shift as Anon says.

Richard N

2014-10-12 05:42:57

I specifically hear little additions that aren't on the normal version... but that's just what I hear. Agree to disagree I guess.

bro

2014-10-12 05:49:53

rip the track from youtube and shift the pitch back to normal and see if you still think the same

Hans Zimmer, Mel Wesson (ambient background stuff), Lorne Balfe (arrangements), and James Newton Howard (one of his themes is in there a couple times). Every one is a little bit of everywhere. Though I'm doing an analysis of Hybrid's analysis, which may be incorrect. Go to the Batman Begins CD page.... :P

I love this score because here, the additional composers really are ONLY ADDITIONAL. I don't really mind them, but it's nice to see them used as one would expect.

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MacArthur

2013-08-18 04:42:19

well on most of the scores it is additional. like arranging, orchestration. such is the case in the TDKR and in most of Zimmer's other scores now some of the background stuff is or might be written by the others. but for the most part it is Zimmer. for instance you might have one cue like say watchful guardian it was written by Zimmer but arranged by Balfe and Zimmer also and one 50 second cue was written by another composer. but for the Most part it was Zimmer

Jimmy

2013-08-18 17:44:05

Well no, but here Zimmer HIMSELF did the scene-to-scene music for the most part. Look at all the stuff his name alone is on with TDK. Of course there's the James Newton Howard cues, but for the Zimmer stuff, only about 4 cues have another name attached. On most Zimmer scores, the majority of cues will be done by someone other than Zimmer, even if the music they use is Zimmer all the way.

MacArthur

2013-08-18 17:54:05

Well give a few examples.

MacArthur

2013-08-18 18:00:48

Because I think like in the Dark knight rises score most of it is Zimmer. He composed it. but it would be a track kinda like the Man of Steel sketchbook not quite as full as the main theme but as a whole it is the same thing. but it would be like adding on to that theme (arranging) and that is why they are given credit because they helped with the scoring even though it was Zimmer who wrote it. and also you might look at ti this way. Gore Verbinski played guitar on POTC3 and he is credited on the track listing does that mean he wrote it, no not at all just helped play on the song and help in adding depth to the song. see my point.

Jimmy

2013-08-18 23:16:48

I'm not saying Zimmer didn't compose the music that the other guys arranged. I just mean that in The Dark Knight, he not only composed but also ARRANGED the music to the scenes himself. He doesn't do the arranging by himself in most movies.

MacArthur

2013-08-19 01:42:17

I see your point there. On the track Like A Dog Chasing Cars Zimmer did that himself and also on the A Dark Knight, and Aggressive Expansion. But i'm also disagree because on scores such as crimson tide he did most of that on Rush he is doing most of that and also on Man of steel he did most of that and Lone Ranger. He did Most of those HImself. the Dark Knight Rises he did Imagine the Fire, Gotham's Reckoning and Most of Rise The final Track Himself.

MacArthur

2013-08-19 01:45:23

Actually now that i look at it most of the Dark Knight Rises Is Hans Zimmer

What I'd Like to Know is Why didn't Batman Begins Get Released as a 2 disc Edition or will it ever?

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MacArthur

2013-08-11 18:25:40

Also one more thing what did Balfe do on watchful Guardian

MacArthur

2013-08-11 18:28:01

Didn't mean to rate it 2 stars it is five star I just click it before i Figured out how to do it

Mike

2013-08-11 18:40:07

Lorne Balfe did the end credits section of A Watchful Guardian, using Hans' music.

Mike

2013-08-11 18:45:44

To be even more specific, the "DUN DUN DUN DUN" beginning part is a Hans cue, but then it goes into part of Lorne's cue from the track "And I Thought My Jokes Were Bad". Lorne arranged the music like that, but it's all Hans material.

MacArthur

2013-08-11 19:07:45

So Basically It was Hans Just Arranged By Balfe.

MacArthur

2013-08-11 19:14:03

What About the cue After I Thought my Jokes were bad. The One that is in A Dark Knight right before the climax of that track. That sounds like Zimmer. oh and Mike how do you know all this stuff do you know hans Zimmer or Something?

Bioscope

2013-08-11 19:36:29

It's kind of easy to identify Lorne's contributions. His motifs are heavily influenced by his celtic background, much like the end credits theme on MW2. look for the melancholy hook that sounds very celtic.

MacArthur

2013-08-11 21:21:04

I Get That. but the end credits was written by Zimmer and Arranged by Balfe that was my point except for the i Thought My Jokes were bad section and even that was written by Hans partly.

Mike

2013-08-12 03:46:58

No, no, unfortunately I don't know Zimmer: I just read the comments on this site and listen to his music a lot, so it gets easy to pick up. Anyways, you're right, the last part of the credits is indeed Zimmer, but it was Lorne who put it there in the credits for him.

Mike

2013-08-12 03:48:17

But yes, that's correct, basically it was Hans arranged by Balfe.

MacArthur

2013-08-12 04:52:41

Ok I just wanted to make sure

MacArthur

2013-08-12 04:54:11

cause i was thinking wait Zimmer Wrote That stuff. whats going on here.lol

Anonymous

2013-08-17 23:05:03

TDK only got a 2 disc release so that the movie would make even more money. BB didn't make as much money as TDK so they didn't try a 2 disc release.

hey anybody know where i can find the tdk cue from where two-face is threatening maroni in the limo? it sounds like the beginning of 'like a dog chasing cars'.... it's not on any official or unofficial album...

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Mike

2013-02-14 23:38:56

I know this is an awfully late reply, but it's 2:00 onwards in "Sonar System" in the complete score. :P

Like below, I too am looking for a rough film-playing order for this. I don't care for seeking out bootlegs, but this is a great package and wanted to know how to order the tracks into more or less the right sequencing. Thank you.

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MGDrone

2012-06-19 01:18:50

If you don't want to do any editing at all, then it should roughly go like this: Why So Serious?*I'm Not A HeroBank RobberyBuyer BewareHarvey Two-Face*Blood On My HandsAggresive ExpansionYou're Gonna Love MeI Am The BatmanChanceA Little PushAlways A CatchDecent Men In An Indecent TimeYou Complete MeAgent of ChaosAnd I Thought My Jokes Were BadThe FerriesLike A Dog Chasing Cars*Introduce A Little AnarchyWe Are Tonight's EntertainmentWatch The World BurnA Watchful GuardianA Dark Knight**These are obviously the theme suites for the movie. The movie should start with Bank Robbery and end with A Watchful Guardian, but for a better listening experience, that's how I have them. Except for Like A Dog Chasing Cars, I put it at the end before A Dark Knight since really only the first minute or so is in the movie. I honestly couldn't think of a logical place to put Halfway to Hong Kong since it's an unused alternate, so that's up to you. This is obviously a really rough order since some cues were put together out of order, but this is really the best that can be done. Hope it helps :)

Leonardo

2012-06-19 01:57:13

Thank you MGDrone. I do not mind doing some editing. I appreciate this much but do you have a kind of edited version order instead? Again thank you.

MGDrone

2012-06-28 00:34:22

Hey Leo, sorry it took me so long to respond. I had to check the movie and listen carefully to the soundtrack just to be sure I wasn't missing anything, but here it is:

*This is definitely NOT the film version because in the film it cuts off at about 2:02 but here it continues in it's suite-like version. You'll know what I mean if you listen to the film version of the end credits. You could do three things: leave it the way it is; cut it at 2:02 although it will not sound right or match the film version; get the film version of the end credits and copy and edit it from there.

As you can imagine, this is quite rough. The minute marks aren't exactly where the should be, you'll probably have to adjust that a bit. A lot of these tracks are not the film versions, but they're essetially the same. Also, a whole lot of tidbits of music are repeated several times throughout the movie, and I didn't repeat them here since it would end up being a less interesting listening experience. Hope you enjoy :) Btw, what program do you use to break and and put together tracks?

Does anyone know -- roughly, as I know some cues are mixed together -- what order I can put these into that resembles the film order? I like listening to my scores in order in WinAmp :)

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mr ed

2011-08-25 20:09:59

i would also like to know this. anyone pleaseeeeeeeee? :D

Agnt007dman

2011-08-25 20:44:45

Yes. Download the complete score. There's your film order

Samir Aziz

2012-04-04 20:37:41

This album is the complete suites of the dark knight score.

Phil

2012-04-04 22:09:30

no, strongly don't think so

Samir Aziz

2012-04-08 20:45:33

I have all three versions of the dark knight and batman begins score but i see that the special 2cd score is the better ... :)

timbo

2012-04-08 20:50:13

better then the recording sessions? ehm, okay?

Samir Aziz

2012-04-09 16:33:06

Hi,all of you; the 2cd special edition the names of tracks are impressive because you noticed the tracks don't matched with the current movie actions,Hans.Z take some says from the movie and named the tracks like decent men in indecent time and chance,but the complete score tracks names describe every action in the movie correctly,i wish you understand me !