Get over your pity party. Get a job somewhere besides McDonalds. Pull your pants up. Dress appropriately for the job. Act like you give a fuck. Pay attention. Keep your head on your business that is in front of you.

Everybody here is hating on the younger generation. We've never seen that before in history

I'm 24 and I worked at a farm for the past year when I couldn't find another job. It was brutal work, but I saved almost every penny. I think it has to do with some people being spoiled more than anything. I worked with some white kids who were lazy, and some white kids who were very hard workers. The mexican kids I worked with were all ridiculously hard working. I think when you know there is no one to bail you out financially, it forces you to work hard. I feel bad for those mexican kids. Every second they're not at school they're working doing manual labor. I really believe mexican americans are going to be the next upper class group in this country. They also don't have to be told to do things. They could literally run the farm on their own, and pretty much do. If a tractor breaks down, they don't park it and get another. They take it apart and fix it. Then they go out and finish harvesting. They're the doctors of the future.

Get over your pity party. Get a job somewhere besides McDonalds. Pull your pants up. Dress appropriately for the job. Act like you give a fuck. Pay attention. Keep your head on your business that is in front of you.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29856998

I have an idea. How about the useless idiot CEOs and managers understand that they're particular scam is as pointless as counting sand grains and that the reason nobody "gives a fuck" is because there are no fucks to give.

At the VERY LEAST they bloody well understand that they need US a hell of a lot more than we need them.

you people are ignorant. america is nothing but a slave colony and the young men are disillusioned with becoming nothing more than a cog in a system. we'd rather have fun with our lives instead of our lives coming down to slaving for dollars.

men grow up learning that love is hard when you're young. Well actually it's not much different when you get older either.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7138989

Nah, it gets easier. I would think.

Quoting: pi 20063747

Only if you acquire enough wealth and social status, otherwise it sucks donkey balls. Your looks and bling are only your audition when women fist catch sight of you. Then it's onto the interview (date) to see if your worth your salt.

I am 44 and have a profile on a dating site. I get messages every single day from guys in the 20's. I get messages from men of all ages, but I am always surprised at the young guys. Yes, they may be horny. But when I talk to them, almost all of them are quite lonely too. They have a harder time socially it seems, than men in their 30's or 40's had. Porn has warped young guy's brains. But so have multi-player online games. Women are all about communication and social skills. If you don't have decent social skills then you will get no where with women. Forget money or confidence etc. The number one thing for guys is the ability to converse well and tell jokes ie: don't be a geek in front of her friends.

Some refer to it as retarded maturation. And the possible contributing list of factors??? Pretty much everything.

..where does one start...the ever increasing doting, coddling mothers, fragmented families, hormones in the meat, synthetic estrogen-like chemicals flooding everything, poor parenting by immature parents themselves, lack of respect amongst the parents, lack of positive role models, the media and adverts..video game recluses that do not develop good social skills..lack of opportunities available..piss poor education system (aka daycare)..drugs..instantanous gratification.

Liberalism and Feminism destroyed most of them and both of those come directly from Communism. Weak men just make it that much easier for TPTB to keep and gain more control over us.

Ayatollah Khomeini:“Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. But those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world…. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those [who say this] are witless. Islam says: Kill all the unbelievers just as they would kill you all! Does this mean that Muslims should sit back until they are devoured by [the unbelievers]? Islam says: Kill them [the non-Muslims], put them to the sword and scatter [their armies]. Does this mean sitting back until [non-Muslims] overcome us? Islam says: Kill in the service of Allah those who may want to kill you! Does this mean that we should surrender to the enemy? Islam says: Whatever good there is exists thanks to the sword and in the shadow of the sword! People cannot be made obedient except with the sword! The sword is the key to Paradise, which can be opened only for Holy Warriors! There are hundreds of other [Koranic] verses and Hadiths [sayings of the Prophet] urging Muslims to value war and to fight. Does all that mean that Islam is a religion that prevents men from waging war? I spit upon those foolish souls who make such a claim.”

Some refer to it as retarded maturation. And the possible contributing list of factors??? Pretty much everything.

..where does one start...the ever increasing doting, coddling mothers, fragmented families, hormones in the meat, synthetic estrogen-like chemicals flooding everything, poor parenting by immature parents themselves, lack of respect amongst the parents, lack of positive role models, the media and adverts..video game recluses that do not develop good social skills..lack of opportunities available..piss poor education system (aka daycare)..drugs..instantanous gratification.

just to name a few. anybody else care to add

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30375090

all these pretty much. One major hurdle is the inability for young non educated men to make a living wage. If they cant afford to move out how can they possibly support a family?

I'm not much older than the young generation. I'm 35. I see a bunch of kids who are remarkably different than we were at their age, at least in certain ways.

Even by 23 or 24 years old they have no skills.The young men are pathetically incompetent with tools. Until recently I owned a small construction business and I'd hire these kids. Almost none of them could read a tape measure. If their truck had a water pump go out or something I'd have to pick them up for weeks until they could have it fixed. They were clueless about how to take care of such little things themselves.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29856998

Half of them were probably gay too.

There are hard times ahead when they're the ones that will be in charge. The Government will have to step in to take care of everyone because they will be unable to do things for themselves.

[link to youtu.be] [link to youtu.be] In summary, (from this video and several others I can't find at the moment) many commonly used products and items, like plastic water bottles containing chemicals, and chicken containing hormones that cause the decrease of testosterone and/or increase of estrogen, AS WELL as social conditioning have caused the latest generation of males to become pussies.

"True wisdom is less presuming than folly. The wise man doubteth often, and changeth his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubteth not; he knoweth all things but his own ignorance."

op why are you asking yourself questions, from a different point of view?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26372742

I guess because I am part of the younger generation, one of those who are hated so much by the older men and also younger women of this country because we are never "good enough".

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7138989

Then do something about it to better yourself. Do you think older people had it any easier?

You're too used to having everything handed to you and failure is a valid option for you. It's looked up on as a bad thing to be competitive today. Everybody should get a trophy, not just the winners. Tests are dumbed-down so everybody has a chance to pass them.

So, you're free-thinking? Nope, gotta have Ritalin.Feel like showing that you're better than others? No, sit down, give all the other Billies their chance at a Made in China trophy!Feel like getting a good education? Good, now here's your multi-thousand dollar debt that'l last you into your 30s at the regular rate.Oh, you like that girl over there? Well, check your priveledge CIS scum, she's clearly a heptogendic bicondrial!And how's mom and dad, huh? Well, too bad, now they've both divorced and setting up a vicious cycle of divorces.Oh, hungry now? Here, have some mechanically-separated McFiller.What, bored now? Here, we'll just hand your a pocket PC that also makes phone calls! Now you can tune into the same mindless drivel videos and wubwub music as everybody else is!

My take on this whole thing also has a lot to do with the old "everyone gets a trophy for participating" BS that started here in the past 2 decades. There is no competition bred into people because everyone is a winner if they just "show up". That, and little Johnny having to wear a helmet and knee pads cause riding a bike is just so darn dangerous...he might hurt his wittle knees.

Kids are put in a bubble and taught that it's a dangerous world that shouldn't be explored, mommy cleans their rooms/laundry/meals until they are in their 20s and we wonder wth is going on

Quoting: Booted and Suited

I'd guess this has a lot to do with the attitudes. Overprotectiveness has its price. Life used to be more of an adventure when I was young, so raising my boys (four of them - ages 18, 17, 16, 15) I tried to teach them how to work and the need to know how to work. They have each learned differently. We (my wife and I) homeschooled them for four years so that when we put them in school they were all supposed to be put up a grade, but it didn't work out that way. The 18 year old was valendictorian of his graduating class (and yeah, I'm proud) and was taking college courses when he was 16. The 17 year old was getting straight F grades so we pulled him out of school and put him back in home school. The first thing he did was build an electric guitar. Carved the wood, wound the pickups, cut the frets out of a coat hanger, and used various electronic parts he'd collected for the rest. He's also the go-to guy when anything needs fixing on the cars or computers. The 16 year old had a heart operation when he was 5 days old (transposition of the great arteries) and suffered from the anesthetic, which derailed his brain synopsis in some way. By second grade in school he didn't even know his alphabet, which is why we started home school to begin with. In four years at home he went from being 2 grades behind to a grade ahead and is one of the top in his class. The 15 year old is a phenomenal reader. He read The DaVinci Code in fourth grade in three nights. He is in the same grade with the 16 year old because they are best friends and always competing. He is the top of his class.

All of these boys helped build the chicken coop, chop firewood, and help with every other job I give them without much whimpering (except cleaning their rooms). Every one has at least the rudimentaries of mechanics. They have all worked on a local horse farm (along with their sister of 14 years) and are sought after by the lady that runs the place because they know how to work where most of the kids she hires come in not knowing which end of the shovel to use. This is not their fault, but it is a fact, and most of these are girls.

We had a hard time with the school system about the way in which they turned our kids away from the values we tried to instill in them. It seemed, much of the time, that they wanted to break our family up. Upon looking at society as a whole I'd say the entire thing is set up to break up families. Dishonesty is rewarded. Recreation is an entitlement. Technology is the answer. Money is the Way to achieve anything. And, responsibility is a disease that only affects the low lifes. These are the values I have seen undermining the system where mores, ethics, and good judgement are in short supply. Oh, and the happy two parent family is not so common anymore, either.

Several years ago I read a book that pointed out that throughout history every society had ceremonies to acknowledge the coming of age in children. Most don't now, and the children suffer from this. They lack identity within a societal structure and are left to drift along learning who they are by what they have. They are bereft of the feeling that they have a reason to be responsible since they don't believe anyone gives a damn about them. And here we sit, judging them, when we are the ones who should shoulder the responsibility of bringing them home. The adventures we had are lost on them because they don't feel the same way. How could they? The knee pads and helmet prevent this from happening, and how else can they achieve anything worth recognizing as noteworthy?

I'm a 21 year old male and live in the city so I might know a little bit about what goes on. I'm not really too interested in other people's lives, so I don't know the whole picture.

These are a few of my observations:

We're pretty much it or miss and we're more focused on survival than living a certain way or following strict traditions be it by country or religion. Many of us are concerned with just floating and then living how we want within our means.

We're pretty conflicted on a lot of the precedents that set how we live present day and are more concerned with them, at times, than our daily lives. This is a great distraction of course, but I don't think a bad one. I haven't met anyone my age who disagrees with the idea that: "we're the 20-30's now, we're the adults, we should change our environment and make the rules how we like". We think we live in a chaotic world. We don't trust anyone. At all.

Ironically, and this may scare you, we actually think the problem is not enough control in the hands of average people our age.

I think the second and third generation 'mixing pot' kids have a lot to do with it too, and the prescription drug atmosphere catching up with us, and a lot of us went missing or fell off when we were younger. I remember people disappearing a lot as a kid or falling to drugs or domestic violence or other things like that.

Last two things I can think of are:

Some of us with mechanic or labor fathers who could teach us to do all that marvelous work like putting together sheds and stuff never wanted us around. A lot of us were just left alone by our parents. I mean a LOT.

Some of us are just playing it by ear. We don't even think it's bad. We've been called the 'lost generation' plenty of times, and for the most part I agree. What I think is most prevalent, though, above all else, is that we've been left alone and are for the most part doing really random things.

That's for the 20-23 only. I can speak pretty honestly for us for about 11 miles out from where I live which is the North East USA.