We have to have somewhere to discuss the best Captain in Starfleet, and here it is...

__________________"Carpe Diem"

I got thrown out of a window! What's the f***ing charge for getting pushed out of a moving car, huh? Jaywalking?

My father gave me one piece of advice. He said "Always. .." No, he said "Never..." well actually he gave me two pieces of advice, I've forgotten the other one. But the important one is, "Never chase a man over a cliff".

I still think it would have been better if they hadn't gone ahead and made Kirk a captain. Aside from the whole cadet to captain logic problem, him as a first officer could have been an interesting change. He could have been captain when necessary.

I think the promotion from Cadet to Captain stretches story/logic/everything credibility beyond the breaking point.

Although I hear that this rapid promotion may have repercussions in the new film. Interested to see if that is true.

I would have been happier if Kirk had been decorated for his valour in defeating Nero, etc. Being made a Lieutenant (at most) then being told that when he graduates, the Enterprise will be his ship.

Jump forward a couple of years, show his graduation and promotion to Captain and getting assigned the Enterprise. I think that would have gone down a lot better, or certainly more plausible.

__________________"Carpe Diem"

I got thrown out of a window! What's the f***ing charge for getting pushed out of a moving car, huh? Jaywalking?

My father gave me one piece of advice. He said "Always. .." No, he said "Never..." well actually he gave me two pieces of advice, I've forgotten the other one. But the important one is, "Never chase a man over a cliff".

Everything else with Old Spock and the time travel and all that makes sense though right?

Not always, but it is more acceptable to me than that ridiculous promotion scenario.

__________________"Carpe Diem"

I got thrown out of a window! What's the f***ing charge for getting pushed out of a moving car, huh? Jaywalking?

My father gave me one piece of advice. He said "Always. .." No, he said "Never..." well actually he gave me two pieces of advice, I've forgotten the other one. But the important one is, "Never chase a man over a cliff".

What should have been done Is more time should have passed.Neo's attack shuld have happned a few years after graduation.You could have had focus on 2 ships.Enteprise and farrogat.Mccoy and Sulu could have been wih Kirk on Farrogat.Spock,Uhuru,and
Scotty on Enterprise.Kirk's Is a lieutenant when Neo attacks.at end Kirk Is promated to captain and assigned to enteprise on Pike's recommendation after saving earth.

I guess Kirk being promoted to captain so fast doesn't bother me for a couple reasons.

1) A large number of captains and potential captains died when the fleet warped to Vulcan. So, they were a bit short handed when it came to people with hands on experience.

2) Kirk saved the Federation (and earth) from total destruction.

__________________Beliefs - Christian. Anti-Republican. Anti-Gun. Complete separation of church and state. Freedom of speech. Freedom to practice any religion in public. Less focus on foreign lands and more focus on our own problems.

Who's more attactive, Chris Pine as Kirk or a young William Shatner, in his prime as Kirk?

Shatner:

Pine:

__________________ Dreams save us. Dreams lift us up and transform us. And on my soul I swear: until my dream where dignity, honor, and justice becomes the reality we all share I'll never stop fighting. Ever - Superman

Certainly agree that the image of Shatner above exudes more authority than Pine`s Kirk.

But to be fair to Chris Pine, Shatner`s Kirk has a lot of history behind him to garner said authority. Also Kirk is (character ages) around ten years older in TOS than Pine`s Kirk currently is.

__________________"Carpe Diem"

I got thrown out of a window! What's the f***ing charge for getting pushed out of a moving car, huh? Jaywalking?

My father gave me one piece of advice. He said "Always. .." No, he said "Never..." well actually he gave me two pieces of advice, I've forgotten the other one. But the important one is, "Never chase a man over a cliff".

__________________ Dreams save us. Dreams lift us up and transform us. And on my soul I swear: until my dream where dignity, honor, and justice becomes the reality we all share I'll never stop fighting. Ever - Superman

__________________ Dreams save us. Dreams lift us up and transform us. And on my soul I swear: until my dream where dignity, honor, and justice becomes the reality we all share I'll never stop fighting. Ever - Superman