So what are we up against here?Affiliate links to buy the full version of IDA PRO? Ads for cartridge reproduction equipment and parts? Ads for those awful retreaux Steam games?Or just some bloody KFC ads...

If this is about getting a new server, just do a one time fundraiser and get it done.I don't have much of an opinion on ads. I didn't even know we had them, I'm always logged in and have an adblocker. Keep them around if they can help out with recurring costs.

It makes no difference to me whether the site has ads or not, since I won't see them in any case. I refuse to pay money (in the form of bandwidth bills from my ISP) to have my privacy invaded, on principle.

I'm perfectly happy to cut out the middleman, though. I've made contributions to every Wikipedia donation drive I've been around for, and I'd do the same here.

I have been paying the co-location and other fees for the past couple of years and can continue to do so, I have not been able to set any extra aside to put towards a new server....im not concerned as far as the current costs as I can and will be able to cover them. It is more about trying to get some newer hardware.

How can you not be concerned about (potentially high) recurring costs, but then say you don't have enough money for new hardware? I don't have enough information to say whether or not you'd save money by e.g., hosting at EC2, but my gut says you would... and at least you wouldn't need to buy a server.

Even if people actually donate, I'd still keep the ads. Anyone who is that offended by them will turn on adblock, but will supposedly donate unless they want to be an asshole, so you're still getting money. I can't donate to this website (I don't have a credit card or anything, and my mother will never let me use hers for this) so I'll gladly help this website by "suffering" through some ads.

Assuming Espozo's self-reporting of his age is correct, that'll take four more years. The Credit CARD Act of 2009 bans banks from issuing a credit card to someone under 21 without a co-signer or substantial independent income. And if Espozo's parents are unwilling to let him use theirs, they're probably also unwilling to co-sign for his own.

The current ads aren't too intrusive and don't upset logged in users, or those with ad blockers, so I don't see them as a huge issue.

Please don't honor Espozo's awfuldifferent suggestion of having side ads which slide down, or do any other CSS bullshit to be more prominent. NESDev is one of the last websites I visit regularly that isn't upsetting with regards to advertising.

As Koitsu pointed out, donations can't be relied upon. If members are able to produce and sell homebrew titles, perhaps they can make some donations based on proceedings from them. Obviously that's not going to sustain the site on its own, but it might make a donation feel more approachable to have the source of money come from somewhere other than normal day job wages.

Thanks for all the input. I created a paypal address to be used for nesdev donations ( paypal@nesdev.com ). I will be making a donation page with a ledger or sorts that will contain donation amounts and what it is spent on. I would also like to ask that anyone who donates send a message along with the donation with what name (or username, if you prefer) you would like to be shown on this ledger or if you would prefer to remain anonymous.

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