So he's MARGINALLY better than David Carr? Carr 2.0? Okay. Wow...Imagine what Carr could have done with an offensive line. Carr (much like Schaub) won't make it into the hall of fame, but the young man can retire from the game of football with two things:

1. A HUGE pile of money he made as Houston's starting QB.

and

2. a bigg-azz stupor bowl ring he got as a BACK UP in New York.

Another commonality is that they're both excellent BACK UP QB's. Carr does a GREAT job backing up Eli just as Schaub did a great job backing up Dog-boy (Michael Vick). They're BOTH back-ups who THINK as back ups. They can win a few games, but at the end of the day both lack the hunger that championship calibre QBs sweat in their sleep. Until you see them on the sidelines analyzing EVERY play of the game the way Tom Brady, Paton Manning and Aaron Rodgers that's all they'll EVER be.

But i do see schaub giving the schaub eyes on the sidelines sometimes, surely he gets some credit for that

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"Oh, yes, and one more thing, dear Lord — about our enemies? Ignore their heathen prayers and help us blow those little bastards straight to hell. Amen again."

I hate how this season has been going but - I like that we basically only look bad, when we are doing mistakes. Our D is dominant for the most part of the games (how many TDs have they given up?), our receivers can get open and Ben Tate provides a great boost of the bench. What is wrong with our teams are mistakes like:

- missing field goals

&

- throwing stupid INTs

. Correct those mistakes and we have a super bowl contender - if we don`t correct those mistakes we might even miss the playoffs.

Coulldn't agree more. The kicker's job is a simple one. There are more than 32 guys on the planet who can kick a football and some of them would LOVE to have one of those 32 jobs.

Hmmmm. I wonder whose JOB it is to throw the ball?

__________________"Why attack a man for his race or religion when there are so many other PERFECTLY good reasons?" :Dreademiah 2:16 Dread-Head. Texan from DAY ONE & PROUD Honorary Blue Crew member..."Damn it Bill!"

Asking people on this board to calm down is futile. Many on this message board cant help themselves but go ape **** when we lose. People last year would say we need to be playing our best football when the playoffs start. And now we need to be playing our best football the 3rd game of the season. I guess you just simply want super bowl caliber play all freaking year long. No big deal. Just do that, Texans.

Yes, our offense and ST stunk yesterday. But sometimes our offense doesn't click, especially without D. Brown and a healthy AJ, and on ST, those are things that can be corrected.

Only thing i mean by calm down is with the over reactions. And we all see them after a bad loss. Hell look at baltimores fans after their loss to us last season, and what did the go on to do ? Anyone who is a fan of this team is dissapointed after yesterdays loss, and we all see our glaring weaknesses. But 1 loss dont define a season "usually". We are a good team not matter how bad we played yesterday.

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"Oh, yes, and one more thing, dear Lord — about our enemies? Ignore their heathen prayers and help us blow those little bastards straight to hell. Amen again."

and the interception per game that Schaub throws should be ignored? I'm just sayin'. Sorry I'll admit I've never had any faith in the man and he's yet to do anything to alter my perception of him as a guy who shold be holding a clip board and wearing a baseball cap.

A couple of those ints have been tipped balls and over time that smooths out a bit as shown he throws about 10 on average a season.

Only thing i mean by calm down is with the over reactions. And we all see them after a bad loss. Hell look at baltimores fans after their loss to us last season, and what did the go on to do ? Anyone who is a fan of this team is dissapointed after yesterdays loss, and we all see our glaring weaknesses. But 1 loss dont define a season "usually". We are a good team not matter how bad we played yesterday.

This "we should be 0-3" is a bunch of a crap. We made plays to win those games. Oh no, we had to make plays to win a game. It wasn't pretty. Who gives a crap? Teams make plays. That's what happens in the NFL. Good on paper doesn't translate to good on the field.

I've never been one to hit the panic button and run around like a chicken with it's head cut off, and while I've never made bones that I think neither Kubiak and Schaub are next level guys, I'm THIS CLOSE burning the whole thing down.

We're stuck in neutral and no amount of "it's on me, guys" and battle-fighting is going to make this team a SB contender. They need to blow up the coaching staff and QB position. If this were Back To The Future and we were playing in the 80's, then gosh darn it, we might have a good team, but the NFL has quickly passed coaches like Kubiak up and guys with marginal pocket passing talent are becoming liabilities.

This loss was 2 games in the making, unless people are mistaking our improbably week 1 and 2 wins as talent. They're not. We caught a couple lucky breaks and played hurry up when we had to, so Kubiakpredictability was less of a factor. But c'mon, who can't guess the play calls with 80% accuracy on any normal drive? Who doesn't see Schaub throwing for 4 yards less than what we need on third down all the damn time? This is getting RIDICULOUS, y'all.

Repeat... an nfl houston franchise has never been to the super bowl. Ala Houston Oilers. When did the Carolina Panthers start? How long did it take them? Either you get there are you don't we gotta throw away accepting mediocrity in thinking it always has to take time. Texans sell out every game the city deserves more.

Repeat... an nfl houston franchise has never been to the super bowl. Ala Houston Oilers. When did the Carolina Panthers start? How long did it take them? Either you get there are you don't we gotta throw away accepting mediocrity in thinking it always has to take time. Texans sell out every game the city deserves more.

Oh the titans don't count because they weren't in houston at the time even though they had the same owner but it was the city right? And the panthers were far from normal but they do have 4 trips to the playoffs in about double the time of the texans

perspective and reality are missing here you or the city don't "deserve" more