One observation: Shanahan has set things up to NOT get fired. These are his guys, and these guys are running a specific system, which is why the Redskins draft picks were not the "traditional" types that you find the media salivating over. Instead, we go with guys that have proven to play well in the system that the Redskins are running.

Regardless of the record next year, no team would invest 3 years of building a team and trash it the next by hiring all new coaches and coordinators. We are in this thing for the long haul. I believe that the fans are buying in. It will take wins, though, not draft picks, to turn the tide of the media and critics.

Time will tell, but I am liking the direction that this franchise is heading. Common sense, good scouting, and patience will take this team and its fans far for years to come. My biggest worry is Kyle - not liking him as an O-coordinator. More hard-nosed running please and less finesse passing, but I am from the old-school mentality.

emoses14 wrote:I hate to break this to you, but as an LSU fan whose watched plenty of his games, Reuben Randle isn't worth the paper his name was printed on that was handed to Roger Godahell. I laughed my behind off when they took him.

you're not breaking anything to me. I'll put that teams drafting record up against your team any day of the week. we'll see.

Great, so you'll put their drafting of Reuben Randle up against our drafting of whom, RGIII? I mean that would be consistent with your past arguments that we spent our second round pick this year, plus our 1 the next two years to get him. Anything else would make all your blustering logically incoherent. Right?

I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"

emoses14 wrote:Great, so you'll put their drafting of Reuben Randle up against our drafting of whom, RGIII? I mean that would be consistent with your past arguments that we spent our second round pick this year, plus our 1 the next two years to get him. Anything else would make all your blustering logically incoherent. Right?

And you're expecting receive an impartial and educated reply?

I don't know what's more disappointing at this point, the troll or the people who keep feeding it.

1. Do folks think that the problem with drafting Cousins is that he is more NFL ready than Griffin? Really? I thought the "competition is bad" argument was the worst I'd hear, but leave it to Skip Bayless to manufacture a new level of stupidity.
2. This might be the worst application of race to a QB "controversy" I've ever read. Quite frankly ( ), race has nothing to do with either picking Cousins or whether this would be an issue in another city. Skip Bayless is literally paid very good money to say the most asanine bunk on television. Steven A gets paid very good money to say the 2nd or 3rd most asanine bunk on television.
3. I feel very sorry for Eric Mangini.

I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"

riggofan wrote:Can I just add my voice to beg people to PLEASE stop responding to the idiot Giants fan? If I wanted to talk to Giants fans, I'd visit the mens rooms in our public parks after hours.

Hey! Anybody want to bet how much we'll be talking about third string QB Kirk Cousins by the end of September? I predict he'll be as big a topic as Nick Sundberg.

Yeah, I wonder how many of these "experts" will appologize for their idiotic rantings and creating a fire strom of controvery and then blaming that fire storm on the Skins.

When all this noise goes away, RG3 starts ripping up the NFL, and then gets hurt in 2013 or 2014 when the team is in a playoff race and the team trots out Cousins and the team continues to win all of those experts won't say anything about the team having a capable backup QB! They will just expect it and never admit that the KILLED the team for being so STUPID to draft a backup QB!

"Dovie'andi se tovya sagain"
(It is time to roll the dice) Tai'shar Manetheren

"Duty is heavier than a Mountain, Death is lighter than a feather" Tai'shar Malkier

P A T I E N C E - The Redskins will improve the product on the field if Dan Snyder just let's Scott & his FO do their jobs Dan needs to stop screwing things up and let Scott get this franchise back together

Sorry, this might qualify as fair minded and reasonable analysis, so it's not for everybody's taste And this is an article from Sports Illustrated (they do SOME things right) from which some of the analysis comes: