Hypothetical Question - What would society be like if there were no consequences? - Think Atheist2016-12-09T13:34:37Zhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/forum/topics/hypothetical-question-what-would-society-be-like-if-there-were-no?xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noTo Unseen--Yes, that is also…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-01-23:1982180:Comment:12507412013-01-23T11:50:16.100ZCathy Cooperhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/CathyCooper
<p>To Unseen--Yes, that is also true according to what many Christians believe. This would mean that babies who had been born and died before baptism would go to hell too. However, even Augustine and Calvin couldn't figure it out because one claimed all of them would be damned to hell, while the other claimed babies would reside in the arms of Jesus. </p>
<p>This is what happens when a religion is confusing, contradictory, illogical, and so many of them believe different things. </p>
<p>To Unseen--Yes, that is also true according to what many Christians believe. This would mean that babies who had been born and died before baptism would go to hell too. However, even Augustine and Calvin couldn't figure it out because one claimed all of them would be damned to hell, while the other claimed babies would reside in the arms of Jesus. </p>
<p>This is what happens when a religion is confusing, contradictory, illogical, and so many of them believe different things. </p> May your head get stuck in an…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-01-22:1982180:Comment:12504742013-01-22T21:48:21.690Zarchaeopteryxhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/xn/detail/u_2gskiyna07rt3
<p>May your head get stuck in an igloo --</p>
<p>May your head get stuck in an igloo --</p> CAMERON W - nice list of prop…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-01-22:1982180:Comment:12506922013-01-22T21:36:38.542Zarchaeopteryxhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/xn/detail/u_2gskiyna07rt3
<p>CAMERON W - nice list of prophecies you have there. I don't suppose the fact that the New Testament events were deliberately written to comply with those prophecies and appear to fulfill them, is any kind of problem for you --</p>
<p>CAMERON W - nice list of prophecies you have there. I don't suppose the fact that the New Testament events were deliberately written to comply with those prophecies and appear to fulfill them, is any kind of problem for you --</p> But wouldn't the Eskimo be gu…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-01-22:1982180:Comment:12506912013-01-22T21:36:27.665ZUnseenhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Unseen
<p>But wouldn't the Eskimo be guilty of original sin prior to being introduced to Yahweh? Does that mean that some sins aren't sins at all? This is all very confusing. Maybe Cathy Cooper can enlighten us.</p>
<p>But wouldn't the Eskimo be guilty of original sin prior to being introduced to Yahweh? Does that mean that some sins aren't sins at all? This is all very confusing. Maybe Cathy Cooper can enlighten us.</p> That is one of my favorite Ch…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-01-22:1982180:Comment:12504732013-01-22T21:29:12.343ZCathy Cooperhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/CathyCooper
<p>That is one of my favorite Christian jokes! Thanks for posting it...:)</p>
<p>That is one of my favorite Christian jokes! Thanks for posting it...:)</p> Cathy, RE: "We have multiple…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-01-22:1982180:Comment:12506372013-01-22T21:12:05.151Zarchaeopteryxhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/xn/detail/u_2gskiyna07rt3
<p>Cathy, RE: "We have multiple denominations pitted against each other, each claiming the other isn't "Christian" because they don't believe the same things."</p>
<p>Actually, and I'm sure you'll agree, there were almost as many "Christianities" prior to the 325 Council of Nicaea, as now.</p>
<p>Cathy, RE: "We have multiple denominations pitted against each other, each claiming the other isn't "Christian" because they don't believe the same things."</p>
<p>Actually, and I'm sure you'll agree, there were almost as many "Christianities" prior to the 325 Council of Nicaea, as now.</p> RE: "i ask 2 simple questions…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-01-22:1982180:Comment:12505522013-01-22T21:07:26.462Zarchaeopteryxhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/xn/detail/u_2gskiyna07rt3
<p>RE: "i ask 2 simple questions on that blog wanting as many answers as possible."</p>
<p>Which 2 questions are those, CAMERON W, we'll take a crack at them right here --</p>
<p>RE: "i ask 2 simple questions on that blog wanting as many answers as possible."</p>
<p>Which 2 questions are those, CAMERON W, we'll take a crack at them right here --</p> CAMERON W - RE: "if someone d…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-01-22:1982180:Comment:12505492013-01-22T20:54:06.721Zarchaeopteryxhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/xn/detail/u_2gskiyna07rt3
<p>CAMERON W - RE: "if someone doesnt know any better, then they wont be held to the same accountability as if you knew you shouldnt do something and did it anyways."</p>
<p>The Eskimo said to the Christian missionary, "So people who don't know about your god and your Jesus are not in danger of going to hell?"</p>
<p>The missionary assured him, "Of course not, god loves you and would never send you to hell if you didn't know about him."</p>
<p>The Eskimo asked, "So why did you tell me?"</p>
<p>CAMERON W - RE: "if someone doesnt know any better, then they wont be held to the same accountability as if you knew you shouldnt do something and did it anyways."</p>
<p>The Eskimo said to the Christian missionary, "So people who don't know about your god and your Jesus are not in danger of going to hell?"</p>
<p>The missionary assured him, "Of course not, god loves you and would never send you to hell if you didn't know about him."</p>
<p>The Eskimo asked, "So why did you tell me?"</p> @ Cameron
yes by gods standar…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-01-22:1982180:Comment:12503782013-01-22T18:52:56.314ZEmperor Miloshttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/MilosCakovan
<p>@ Cameron</p>
<blockquote><p>yes by gods standards, oops i forgot we are all sinners except you. i forgot you are perfect.</p>
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<p>First of all Cameron, I have at no point even mentioned the thought that I am perfect, so drop the bullshit, sweetheart. Second of all, if you expect anyone to take your god seriously, you need to provide serious, hard evidence that your god exists. As of right now, your god has about as much clout as the Easter bunny.</p>
<p>I suggest you read the…</p>
<p>@ Cameron</p>
<blockquote><p>yes by gods standards, oops i forgot we are all sinners except you. i forgot you are perfect.</p>
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<p>First of all Cameron, I have at no point even mentioned the thought that I am perfect, so drop the bullshit, sweetheart. Second of all, if you expect anyone to take your god seriously, you need to provide serious, hard evidence that your god exists. As of right now, your god has about as much clout as the Easter bunny.</p>
<p>I suggest you read the thread "Debunking The Bible: Genesis" on here. That will answer all of your questions. If you want us to take your book and your imaginary friend seriously, you have to provide proof that he/she/it/they exists.</p>
<p>As for sin, that is a term bound to your religion, and has absolutely zero meaning to me. So, allow me to rephrase your nonsensical reply.<br/><br/>"...ooops i forgot all chrisitans are sinners, since atheists don't waste their time with the idea of some cosmic crime when they jack off."</p>
<blockquote><p>this proves you know absolutely nothing about christianity. so all the points you think you are making come accross extremely ignorant and arrogant.</p>
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<p>Of course it proves whatever you want it to be, pal. Just like your bible. In your brief 2 years of study you act as if you have a better grasp on the bible than the rest of the world, just like every other christian thinks.</p>
<p>If you want to make claims, like me being wrong, do present evidence as to how I am wrong. According to you, the originator of an idea is not its creator. Hmm, that must mean that George Lucas didn't invent Star Wars either. Must have been Joe Peschi!</p>
<blockquote><p>i dont know how to better explain this milo. christianity is not the old testement or the new testement. it is jesus christ. the bible is about jesus christ. christianity is the prophecy of jesus christ (old testement),</p>
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<p>If the entire book is supposed to be about Jesus, why all the other worthless garbage then? Why the no shellfish law, or killing women and children. What does that have to do with Jesus, Cameron? Why not strictly about Jesus? Why bother with the flood, or the burning bush? Why all the hate about gays, if Leviticus doesn't matter. Also, do you realize how easy it is to lie so the prophecies are "fulfilled."</p>
<p>Here is a list of the unfulfilled bible prophecies.<br/><a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Failed_biblical_prophecies" target="_blank">http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Failed_biblical_prophecies</a></p>
<blockquote><p>the birth, teaching, death, then resurrection of jesus christ.and then finally the ruling and judgment of jesus christ.(new testement) it is all with the underlying subject of JESUS CHRIST. thats it. that is whole point.</p>
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<p>Then tell me, in your seemingly infinite wisdom and understanding of scripture, why does the bible contradict proven, known reality? Flat earth, age of the universe, global flood, the census by Herod, the existence of Bethlehem, the hundreds of inconsistencies amongst the 4 different books of the bible? Why did they not include the book about Jesus when he was a child into the bible? You know, the one where he killed his friend, then brought him back to life, just to prove a point. Isn't that a part of Jesus' life?</p>
<blockquote><p>mica gets no more of my time until he can figure out what he is actually arguing against.</p>
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<p>Now that I had time to answer to your absolutely embarrassing, childish, empty headed reply, I would like to conclude that you get no more of my time until you provide evidence that your Jesus exists, and until you learn to read and spell my fucking name properly.</p>
<p>If you can't read my name correctly, and write it correctly, what hope do you have of actually understanding the bible. You fail to comprehend a few paragraphs of modern English, and a common Slavic name, yet you think you mastered scripture? You claim to be a writer, when you can barely read? Please, Cameron, don't embarrass yourself further.</p> Cameron--after rereading the…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2013-01-19:1982180:Comment:12492662013-01-19T17:41:38.345ZCathy Cooperhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/CathyCooper
<p>Cameron--after rereading the comments, I just want to point out to you that you contradicted yourself--which I failed to point out earlier.</p>
<p>Remember, you quoted Hebrews 10-26-27, which tells us that if a believer sins "willfully" they will see the pit of fire--no repentance. Then you go on to say that we are all sinners--every one of us!! i.e., you continue to sin "willfully."</p>
<p>So what is is Cameron? Jesus said to "Be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect," and Hebrews…</p>
<p>Cameron--after rereading the comments, I just want to point out to you that you contradicted yourself--which I failed to point out earlier.</p>
<p>Remember, you quoted Hebrews 10-26-27, which tells us that if a believer sins "willfully" they will see the pit of fire--no repentance. Then you go on to say that we are all sinners--every one of us!! i.e., you continue to sin "willfully."</p>
<p>So what is is Cameron? Jesus said to "Be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect," and Hebrews 10 implies that once you have Jesus in your heart, you will no longer sin willfully, but then you go on to say you are no different than anyone else, and we are all sinners. This makes no sense at all. According to those passages, and your belief that all of humanity are a bunch of sinners--you haven't got a chance. </p>
<p>If you can be "perfect" as Jesus implies, then you will no longer sin "willfully" as Hebrews 10 points out.--but you do. Ahh-- you are a Paulian--not a Christian. </p>