On one of the documentaries I saw, one of the guys that was involved in the design of WTC said so.

It would be nice if you knew what documentary. I can understand the thinking behind making buildings sturdy enough to withstand a single jet crashing into them, but I think it's a little too much to ask for any designer to build something capable of sustaining multiple hits from the largest aircraft in the world.

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To those of us who are smart enough to see through the lies 911 was without a doubt an inside job, nothing is more certain.

Well, at any rate...the towers we're either brought down by islamic terrorists because we are a Jewish state and have named ourselves the hired guns for Israel..

-OR-

They were brought down by our Zionist shadow-government in order to spread "Democracy" throughout the Middle East to bring us 10 steps closer to the New World Order where Jews rule and the multicultural mut race that's left can serve them.

Believe what you like but science supports the alternative theory that it was an inside job.Melt, bend, its all the same crackpot "theory" issued by the government to the gullible masses who never question anything they see on TV.
Besides that ask yourself this: who had motive? Who had access? who stood to ultimately benefit?

Dear lord! Here we go again with this "melt" crap. Do you have a clue what you are talking about? Who has said steel was melted?

Originally Posted by Scottish SoupWhile what you say is true, it is irrelevant, and that's because it is not possible to generate the heat necessary to melt steel girders and pulverized reinforced concrete using several of the largest airplanes known to man, which casts a giant shadow of doubt as to what happened on 911 that the American people and the world have accepted as sacrosanct ever since.

Consider some facts:

--- The melting point of stainless steel is 2,550 degrees Fahrenheit
--- The melting point of steel high-carbon is 2,500 degrees Fahrenheit
--- The melting point of medium carbon is 2,600 degrees Fahrenheit
--- The melting point of low carbon is 2,700 degrees Fahrenheit

Aluminum is 1,218; brass is 1,652-1724; bronze is 1,562-1,832;cast iron is 2,300; copper is 1,981; gold is 1,946; iron is 2,786; manganese is 2,300; nickle is 2,646; silicon is 2,588; silver is 1,762; titanium 3,563; tungsten is 5,432 degrees Fahrenheit.

The point is: every fuel under the sun and under the best conditions, whether it be jet fuel or plain old gasoline, propane or what-have-you, burns well BELOW the melting points of the overwhelming majority of mainstay metals used throughout the World Trade Center complex.

Why don't you shrink down the entire contents of your house (without changing their mass of course), use jet fuel as an accelerate, and then light it and see if it gets hotter than the jet fuel could itself. And besides, upon further thought..steel beams could look molten when heated enough to bend with hundreds of thousands of tons of pressure on them.

You need to go back to school optimum burning conditions produce a blue flame and virtually no smoke look at the photos of the world trade center and you will see plenty of smoke showing the fire was oxygen starved. You should quit acting like your know what you are talking about there is no way that paper and plastic can burn hotter than jet fuel BTW What does shrinking the contents of my house have to do with anything?

Originally Posted by Scottish SoupWhile what you say is true, it is irrelevant, and that's because it is not possible to generate the heat necessary to melt steel girders and pulverized reinforced concrete using several of the largest airplanes known to man, which casts a giant shadow of doubt as to what happened on 911 that the American people and the world have accepted as sacrosanct ever since.

Consider some facts:

--- The melting point of stainless steel is 2,550 degrees Fahrenheit
--- The melting point of steel high-carbon is 2,500 degrees Fahrenheit
--- The melting point of medium carbon is 2,600 degrees Fahrenheit
--- The melting point of low carbon is 2,700 degrees Fahrenheit

Aluminum is 1,218; brass is 1,652-1724; bronze is 1,562-1,832;cast iron is 2,300; copper is 1,981; gold is 1,946; iron is 2,786; manganese is 2,300; nickle is 2,646; silicon is 2,588; silver is 1,762; titanium 3,563; tungsten is 5,432 degrees Fahrenheit.

The point is: every fuel under the sun and under the best conditions, whether it be jet fuel or plain old gasoline, propane or what-have-you, burns well BELOW the melting points of the overwhelming majority of mainstay metals used throughout the World Trade Center complex

You need to go back to school optimum burning conditions produce a blue flame and virtually no smoke look at the photos of the world trade center and you will see plenty of smoke showing the fire was oxygen starved. You should quit acting like your know what you are talking about there is no way that paper and plastic can burn hotter than jet fuel BTW What does shrinking the contents of my house have to do with anything?

#1 "Optimum burning conditions" product a transparent flame.

#2 We already put the melting issue to bed

#3 "Shrinking" was so you could fit a large amount of varied items into a small stove (not sure how you didn't get that one)

#4 I don't have to act like I know what I'm talking about, I merely need to know more about what I'm talking about than the person who is even more misinformed than I am.

#5 A combination of those materials actually CAN burn hotter than jet fuel. No, really..I'm serious. As I said before chemical and physical properties are relative. That being said...it's not that chemicals themselves that make compounds what they are, rather how they are mixed together. The same applies for fuel for a fire. As far as oxygen goes, you didn't see first hand what was going on in the basement..only the floors in between a range above and below crash site. Other low melting point metals and such could act as oxidizers. Hell, simple water evaporating can add hydrogen and oxygen to the fire.

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