If you remember during the broadcast, it was said that teams could not push against more than one side of the polycarb siding (on the ramp) at a time. As far as attaching to the sides, it is my understanding that that would mean actually grabbing onto the sides with a claw mechanism or something similar. As far as the mesh ramp goes, they defined 'attaching your robot to it' as pushing something through the mesh. If you had a suction cup, that would not go through it ... though a suction cup would have a hard time sticking to wire mesh!

Looks like you can attach/suction yourself to the HDPE but not to the railings because the would be considered attaching.
I think we should look for a clearer ruling on this in Tuesday Update
Getting this from the GM28
Robots may not intentionally:
· Attach themselves to the ramp mesh or framing material;
· Attach themselves to the railings/walls of any field structure;

Originally posted by Todd Derbyshire The question is though can we create a vacuum this year?

Read rule M12. It says vacuum can be transmitted through the pneumatics system. However, I'm not sure how you would go about creating this vacuum. Are we allowed to plug stuff in to the inlet on the compressor?

Originally posted by Gamer2028 Looks like you can attach/suction yourself to the HDPE but not to the railings because the would be considered attaching.
I think we should look for a clearer ruling on this in Tuesday Update
Getting this from the GM28
Robots may not intentionally:
· Attach themselves to the ramp mesh or framing material;
· Attach themselves to the railings/walls of any field structure;

Originally posted by Cory I see nothing about attachment to the HDPE platform

Exactly!

· Attach themselves to the ramp mesh or framing material;

i.e. not the metal mesh, or the frame of the ramp.

· Attach themselves to the railings/walls of any field structure.

not the Railings/Walls OF any field structure, i.e. the vertical sections, not the HDPE! And if you noticed, the limits on suction cups are absolutely none at all! I think suction is definitely allowed on the HDPE.

If you were wondering about creating a vacume, u could reverse the compresser, except i would require some extra programming and solonoids, and alot of testing. My idea is that you use the intake, attach a solonoid, then have an tank outside the system. This way just switch the solonoid, then it will sucl the atmosphere out of the tank. Then from there add another solonoid that would open that tank to the suction cup. As for the suction cup, i would suggest using a silicone type. That is if silicone is legal, im still not sure...

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The air is what I yern for, infinite space and yet infinite restrictions. To master the sky is to break out of the mold and to break the rules!
Have you ever looked to the sky on a perfectly clear night, and see that we are only a spec of dust in this great universe?
1) Team 341 Galileo division champions
2) Team 341 won the Entrepreneurship award (I had a big part in that)
3)Had one great time!