Twilight Dragonscale Cloak

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Comment by deadca7

Very nice back, gonna use this in my pre-raid tanking gear setup

Comment by johnnysebre

As awesome as this cloak can be, one might choose to grind reputation with Guardians of Hyjal for that cloak instead of using mats to craft this one. The Hyjal one is an upgrade for all stats except that it has no socket.

Comment by bigbillybeef

You could argue that this is better than the Wrap of the Great Turtle.

When you put in a Solid Ocean Sapphire you get 60 more stam plus the 15 extra stam from the socket bonus giving this back 327 Sta.

Your basically trading a smidgen of avoidance and mastery for 41 stamina. I'd say that's a good trade.

Comment by nunchucky

Comparison of the wrap of the great turtle to the twilight dragonscale cloak with a puissant dream emerald and socket bonus:

I'd say these two are pretty close and even go so far as to say that the WGT is under budget for an epic. Personally I will probably still swap to the WGT, but Hyjal will definitely be the last rep I worry about.

Comment by intuit

I've been using this cape since the beginning of cata, and I'm still using it and I'm halfway done with the current 25m heroics. IMO, it's better than any of the epic tanking capes out currently. I armory tanks from all the top guilds constantly, and I've noticed very recently that many of them are now using this cape instead of the turtle wrap. Druid tanks are going for one of the 372 heroic agility capes tho, so I don't see any top geared druids using this.

Comment by Ornthorpe

wow - great discussion. as a warrior tank i'm going mainly avoidance so will go for the turtle wrap from Hyjal.

Comment by Nkari

Remember tho, that when you are eying the "best tanks in the world" they allso have healers and DPS that has "Best in slot" gear, so their requirement to save healer mana (therfore stacking avoidance) is much less than it is for us "normal" raiders.. So when you are at the same progress as them sure, it makes sense to do as they do, but otherwise I would be a bit hesitant about gemming exactly like they do, heck they regem and respec everything, for specific bosses..

Comment by magux

Wowhead now have a new Tool: "Find Upgrades..."

This will compare this item with some pre-def stats weights and order the item based on that weights, you can even adjust the stats as you wish.

IMHO Dragonmaw have better upgrades for druids than Hijal, you should take exalted in DMC before GoH, and it only depends on how fast you want step in raids. GoH don´t have dailies at the moment and will take a time to get exalted, this cape should fill the gasp until you get something better.

Comment by Cyrus82

Comparing this to Wrap of the Great Turtle seems misguided. Of course the item with the higher item level is better overall; that's true of almost everything with the same role. Unfortunately, there are no Guardians of Hyjal daily or repeatable quests, so you'll probably have to do at least a dozen instances to get the rep to buy the Wrap and a lot more than that if you go for reputation with another faction first, so the interesting question is, is this better than any cloak you'll get while doing those instances?

And the answer is yes, definitely. This is the best tanking cloak of ilvl 346 or lower. Its secondary stats are good if not great for every tanking class (tanks vary on how much they value mastery, but it's at least somewhat useful for all of them, as is dodge), and this is the only one with a socket. That socket will push its stamina slightly higher than an epic cloak's and will give you your choice of secondary stat or even more stamina. There are only two alternatives from heroic bosses worth considering for tanks: the Billowing Cape and the Burned Gatherings. The Billowing Cape offers slightly more threat from strength, and the Burned Gathering offers quite a bit more from hit, but neither measures up to this in damage reduction.

So epics are definitely upgrades from this, but unlike Wrap of the Great Turtle this will be available the day you hit 85, and on most servers it will cost a lot less to buy this than any BoE epic.