Best ever 8mm and 7.62x54r ammo?

Is there a "Holy Grail(s)" of ammo in these two calibers? As there is in say,7.62x51. Thinking Hirtenberger/Port here. If, and there must be, what is it, and how does it compare to what is readily available now? Any input from more experienced shooters of these calibers would be appreciated.
-jagdpanzer

Are you talking surplus, commercial or both? My M38 really likes Norma(at 30 bucks a box it better!) and Winchester Metrics. For surplus I stay away from Albanian and any of the 180 grain loads but I don't have a clear favorite I just stick to the 147-149 grain loads. I want to hear from some of the really experienced 7.62x54R shooters here.

Don

jagdpanzer347

March 7, 2006, 11:59 PM

Should have been more clear, surplus ammunition only.
-jagd.

asknight

March 8, 2006, 02:15 AM

Yugo, both calibers.

Koobuh

March 8, 2006, 04:07 AM

I can vouch for the Yugo 8mm, at least the 1970s vintage. The difference is noticable downrange.

dfaugh

March 8, 2006, 09:36 AM

I've not seen really good accuracy with any 8mm milsurp ammo I've tried (but I've not tried that many), went to commercial,then reloads.

But in 7.62x54R, the Czech "Silvertip" is pretty much as accurate as commercial loads, at least in my guns.

Cacique500

March 8, 2006, 09:38 AM

No clue on 8mm but my I have two favorites in the 7.62x54R - the Polish 147 grain silvertip and the Yugo (1976 NNY) lead core heavy ball. The yugo is expensive and hard to find but the Polish is cheap and readily available. Runs all day through my M39's.

dm1333

March 8, 2006, 09:45 AM

Glad to hear that, I just ordered 800 rounds of silvertip yesterday.

cracked butt

March 8, 2006, 10:00 AM

Another vote for Yugo 8mm and Czech 7.62x54R

MuzzleBlast

March 8, 2006, 10:46 AM

The Yugo 8mm is good stuff, and a STEAL at about $1.50/box of 15.
It is corrosive though, so clean your rifle afterward.

actually , the new wolf gold brand, in 762.54 ammo is very very good. especially the 185 grnrs. other than that , the czech silvertip ammo, post 1970 is very ,very good.

MinMAN

March 9, 2006, 09:44 AM

I don't know about the 8mm. I do know Ingman, which was now bought out by Wolf. I think it's now labeled under the "Wolf Gold" brand. It comes in 150gr FMJ and 180gr SP. The 180s shoot better out of my particular rifle.
Excellent 762.54r ammo for about eight bucks a box. The ammo from the case I have is very accurate, and consistent out of my M39. Also, it's re-loadable brass and non-corrosive. If your shooting a Mosin, I doubt you'll shoot more than 60 rounds at a session, if that. The Bastards can kick! not to mention the cool flash that attracts a lot of attention at the range.:D

I gave up with the surplus ammo a while ago. Too many variances on how and where the ammo was stored seems to affect POA. It annoys me to have to adjust sights to compensate for these ammo variances. I also don't like to have to clean my rifle with Windex as soon as I get home, due to the corrosive mil-surp ammo.

Another note: I stay away from steel core bullets. It wears barrels out a lot quicker than lead core bullets do. Most mil-surp ammo is steel core. A magnet will confirm if you have steel core bullets, or not.
Those are just my own personal preferences. Other options are OK, as long as it's not with my rifle.