...I get back from a MASSIVE climbing-tour, to find some Damo/Bouge-esque nut-case has web-jacked my identity ... who then proceeds to up-set poor lil' Philby, Miss-goody-2-shoes and T ' I like to use a theorus ' Marsh ! ...

There is a common theme with these anonymous posters. Anger and hate. Hate and anger. I find it hilarious that you can't even spell the right words during your attempt to slag off the very-well-educated Mr Marsh. It just highlights the gaping abyss that defines the difference between your respective levels of intelligence.

Next time you find yourself staring at the wall and wondering why people no longer call you up to say hi, the answer is that you're so darn negative all the time!

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enuf of ur churlish spit-spat-spite ! ... calm-down kids ... this is an E-Zine ... THE ... hehehe ... E-Zine ... now if u have something to 'say' then u must E or P-Mail me first ! ... then if it has any worth , it might get 'published' ...
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EDITORIAL : Time Limit on Moderator Tenure - we've got a few rotten/sour grapes on the cyber-vine ...

... Qurank has turned into flat, piss-weak XXXX, as Mana-cube-arse gets progessively bored with the whole thing ; post-Euro-sport-climbing-extravaganza, Neilio has desperately tried to turn Chocky into a sedated cyber-retirement-village for burnt-out generationX has-beens ... SSSSSSHHHHH !!! --- mustn't get too robust with our discussions --- they might do woopsyz all over the carpet ... again ...
... thankfully that Adski dude keeps jumping in every time nm attacks a new-comer to the forum, who has the cheek to open-up topics that have sort-of been covered before ...
... then we have ' Uncle ' Philby , who thinks he runs every web-site on the planet , and luvs to leap in with a big cyber-stick , only to find hez made another faux-pas ... and regularly luvs to stir the greenies with his self-ackowledged-trolls about trashing bush-land with his Jap-crap 4wd ...
... at least Dalai and Onny clearly understand the concept of letting threads ' self-correct ' ...
... The crew at CragX have a vibrant beer-hall-style of forum , where things are expected, and allowed, to get pretty rowdy at times , LOTS ! --- this is healthy ...
... Mods should mod for 12 months max', then let someone else havago --- therez plenty of ppl in the wingz who could freshen the CS up , and take/lead it in new and exciting directionz ...

...don't read the above text if u think that gay-friendly-bolt-on-novelty-holds, at Burnley, are a good idea ... not that therez anything wrong with that ... hey I know --- howbout some pink-heart-shaped holds on St Valintines Day:-))
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Banned ... Workers claim the move discriminates against smokers : WORKERS at a major government department have been banned from taking cigarette breaks during office hours, setting a precedent for workplaces nationwide.

Under the new rules, public servants will only be allowed to smoke during their lunch hour.
Those breaking the ban will be disciplined with verbal and written warnings and counselling.

Smoking will also be banned within 15m of the government department's offices.

More than 3000 staff employed Australia-wide by the Department of Industry, Tourism and Resources and its associated agencies will be hit by the new rules.

Department chief Mark Paterson told The Daily Telegraph he issued the new edict primarily because of health issues.

"We're moving into a new premises in October that incorporates a childcare centre and I don't want parents and children to be confronted by a phalanx of smokers out the front of the building," he said.
"We're giving people plenty of notice and we're providing financial support for quit programs and other courses. I'm prepared to consider providing support to employees' spouses if that assists them in giving up, too.

"We can't restrict what people do outside of hours and during their lunch hours but we can do so during working hours."

Friends Christina Prineas and Kristi Armstrong, who were enjoying a break within 15m of the department building, strongly objected to the ban yesterday.

" *I c#n't believe it* -- it's a form of discrimination," said Ms Armstrong, a smoker.

"I work at the Tax Office, and maybe 80 per cent of our office smokes. A ban just wouldn't work."

Ms Prineas, who works at nearby Airservices Australia, said she was a non-smoker but still objected to the ban. "They shouldn't be able to restrict your freedoms like that," she said.

On 31/03/2006 climbingjac wrote:>There is a common theme with these anonymous posters. Anger and hate.> Hate and anger.

Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

Don't give in to hate. That leads to the Dark Side!

The smoking ban will be interesting to watch how it pans out, as to where else smoking will be banned.

Initially thought this was a April fools joke with the Authors name being Nicolette Burke (very similar to Nicorette Break), but appears to have been picked up by quite a few local news groups so could be legitimate!

At the Commonwealth MTBing at Lysterfield, sercurity were enforcing a no smoking ban out on the couse saying that smoking is banned in National Parks...

And no, I couldn't care less if it were banned! I dislike going into large Shopping complexes at the best of times, but dislike even more having to run the gauntlet of smoke and smokers that always hover like lepers near the entrances!

On 31/03/2006 climbingjac wrote:>There is a common theme with these anonymous posters. Anger and hate.> Hate and anger. I find it hilarious that you can't even spell the right>words during your attempt to slag off the very-well-educated Mr Marsh.> It just highlights the gaping abyss that defines the difference between>your respective levels of intelligence. >>Next time you find yourself staring at the wall and wondering why people>no longer call you up to say hi, the answer is that you're so darn negative>all the time!

Back in your hole!!!

The day that anybody who claims to be a climber by spending there time cranking plastic has any credibility is the day I give up climbing!

Mazda? That's so 80s (like that V8 in the other thread.)
I was out at the 'Piles just after Christmas but saw no familiar faces (I'm assuming your face would be familiar.)
Who is selling milkshakes in Nati these days?

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to A(id) grade or not to A(id) grade Tuesday, 18 April 2006 At 10:36:19 PM M9iswhereitsat

>This post is to put some kind of closure on the debate that is contained within the >thread; as the context was, what to do about aid grades (?) for the (then upcoming) >new Buffalo Guide.

>The new guide (5th edition - 2006) is now published and available to the masses.

>It retains the 'M' (open ended) Australian Aid Grading System, and has a conversion >chart to the 'A' grading system on pages 12 & 13.

>Interestingly though, on page 103 (route topo of the recently freed iconic aid climbs), it >has a bet-each-way by listing the 'A' system equivalent on individual pitches along >with Free grades and the 'M' grades.

>The guide in numerous places exhorts practitioners of aid climbing to do so cleanly, ie >hammerless, and makes it quite clear that the M grades for any given climb assumes >that they are done so in this 'clean style', unless otherwise annotated.

>I applaud the guidebook authors for utilising the M system as it was intended, and >note that at least 3 climbs (possibly 4) are given the grade of M9 which is a step >beyond the previously published (as hardest established) grade of M8. >Further it alludes within one climb description that a remaining pitch is still there to be >done at a grade harder again (M10 or higher), in the opinion of its visionary 1st >ascentionist up to that point.

>Climbing evolves and will continue to do so. >If aid climbing is still practised by devotees in (say?) 30 years time this benchmark >publication sets an ongoing excellent baseline for being able to differentiate the >nuances of what hard aid climbing is for then and beyond.>The corollary regarding free grades (counterpart) to that today, is that it was not so >long ago that grade 30 was barely conceivable when we were pushing the boundaries >of grade 20.

>~ Likewise I predict that aid will one day extend into M20 and beyond ...

... likewise , I predict that ur daily quota of drivel/dribble will soon have you racking-up 2000 'posts' ...

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