Hi Students,
Just want to check how things are going, and if you guys are in need of
anything. If you have questions, or feedback for the program so far, please
don't hesitate to let me know. If you have any personal issues, please feel
free to e-mail me directly.
Thanks
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

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Re: Why is everyone silent all of a sudden?HABI S RAVI <habisbc@gmail.com>urn:uuid:%3cCAFiuKuMzCcrf=ZMxkVpBoWMrRWMV0gWOPrpz2JV3hkNrFBRYqQ@mail-gmail-com%3e2013-07-22T02:03:42Z

I m learning Apache Cordova and hadoop for my final year project.
On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Ajay Bhat <a.ajay.bhat@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Sreejith R <sreejith.apache@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > So everybody happy with their proposals?
>
>
> Think I may have overdone mine.
>
>
> > Did you guys learn anything new in
> > these few days?
> >
> >
> >
> To not do everything at the last minute, for one. ;-)
>

Re: Why is everyone silent all of a sudden?Ajay Bhat <a.ajay.bhat@gmail.com>urn:uuid:%3cCAM_ZBPF_Ksf+==K213KWv3PbnuewsyKjAA7w-US5OoJFddY0ww@mail-gmail-com%3e2013-07-21T14:47:25Z

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Sreejith R <sreejith.apache@gmail.com>wrote:
> So everybody happy with their proposals?
Think I may have overdone mine.
> Did you guys learn anything new in
> these few days?
>
>
>
To not do everything at the last minute, for one. ;-)

Re: Why is everyone silent all of a sudden?sandeep rg <sandeeprg69@gmail.com>urn:uuid:%3cCACHsLavDGtZ4e+fabpcmizAsZ7MqXbObNvwmyTiTxs8iWkDavQ@mail-gmail-com%3e2013-07-21T14:42:26Z

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> The student proposal deadline is this coming Friday (July 19). Please be
>> sure to submit your proposals before the deadline as I'm going to change
>> the ACL to disable adding new proposals after the deadline.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
> BTW, I'm very disappointed that, after a month, and just a few days before
> the deadline, there is NO draft proposals available on the wiki yet. I hope
> that at least you guys have discussed the project ideas with the mentors.
>
> [1]
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF-ICFOSS+Pilot+Mentoring+Programme
>
>
>
Please make sure you guys understand what items should be on the proposal
as described in [1]. Also, there are proposal examples on the wiki,
particularly [2] which can serve as a template for you guys.
BTW, based on the proposals on the wiki today, we would have at most two
students accepted on the program.
[1]
http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html#applying-for-the-mentor-programme
[2]
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TUSCANYWIKI/Searching+artifacts+across+SCA+domain
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

Information on where to post your project proposalsReshmi Raji <reshmiraji1612@gmail.com>urn:uuid:%3cCAEvMzqxy=GQ5NNah-12O3r06vkRbT_z38oX7eCLWkW7AsRhoLA@mail-gmail-com%3e2013-07-18T15:53:06Z

Hi,
Thank you
I could add now .
--
Thanks & Regards,
Reshmi Raji,
Master Of Science-Information Technology,
Indian Institute Of Information Technology And Management-Kerala ,India.

Hmm.. Got carried away. Wee bit too late to turn around too :(
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com>wrote:
> Folks, the main idea of this program is to get introduced to open source
> and get a hands-on interaction with an open source project. But I see that
> some of you guys are new to open source, and yet are picking project ideas
> on very difficult projects, and even harder, project ideas that involve
> multiple very difficult and political projects.
>
> One recommendation, stick to what is the goal of the project, pick simple
> projects, where you are going to spend most of the time learning how to
> properly interact in the open source community, rather then be heads down
> trying to figure out the project, technology, programming language, etc.
>
> Anyway, my 0.2 cents.
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>

Folks, the main idea of this program is to get introduced to open source
and get a hands-on interaction with an open source project. But I see that
some of you guys are new to open source, and yet are picking project ideas
on very difficult projects, and even harder, project ideas that involve
multiple very difficult and political projects.
One recommendation, stick to what is the goal of the project, pick simple
projects, where you are going to spend most of the time learning how to
properly interact in the open source community, rather then be heads down
trying to figure out the project, technology, programming language, etc.
Anyway, my 0.2 cents.
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

I've put a request in the HDFS list explaining all that I would be doing.
I'm expecting to get a reply soon. What should I do now? Feel like crap for
pushing this to the deadline.
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:35 AM, Sreejith R <sreejith.apache@gmail.com>wrote:
> Luciano,
>
> I posted an email in the Accumulo list expressing interest to work on
> Accumulo-1197. I did some research on the end-goals. I can write a
> proposal. But, the mentorship itself is stuck here. Here's the conversation
> that happened. I've posted them down here since its kinda hard to read it
> in the archives:
>
> *Me:*
>
> I have an idea to tackle this Jira. I've read the dapper paper and
> currently examining the work done in thrift. Shall I make a detailed post
> here?
>
> I'm part of the ICFOSS Joint Mentoring Programme. So if someone can please
> be my mentor, I'll be happy to work with you :)
>
> [1] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
> *
> *
>
> *Me:
>
> *Wouldn't modifying HDFS in any way mean forking the project? Wouldn't that
> have problems in the long run?
>
> *Reply:* *<keith@deenlo.com>*
>
> Forking HDFS is not the way to go. Getting your ideas and patches accepted
> by HDFS is the way to go.
>
> *Me:*
>
> I think its a good idea to modify HDFS and Accumulo to support HTrace since
> HBase has also started working in this direction. The progress made could
> benefit both projects. And also, HTrace follows the Dapper conventions.
>
> I'm not an expert. But from what I read in Google's paper and what's being
> provided in HTrace, we can modify HDFS instrumentation to add a 64-bit
> span-id to the RPC when tracing is enabled. And on the receiver side, if it
> receives a span-id, it shall also be traced with both the parent and child
> nodes having the same trace-id.
>
> What do you think? Please do correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> P.S: Also, the last date for application for the mentoring ends on 19th
> July. So, I request all the experts here to please let me know if you're
> ready to be a mentor. And I assure you, I won't bug you too much in your
> busy scheduler. It's a mandatory rule for the ICFOSS programme -http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
>
> *Me:*
>
> Through this, I'm hoping to accomplish the task of roughly integrating
> HTrace into Accumulo in a timeframe of approximately 2-and-a-half to 3
> months. After the programme, I shall continue work on refining it.
>
> According to the programme, the coding phase 'officially' starts on 5th Aug
> and the preparations for final submission and tidying up of documentation
> should happen by 28th Oct.
>
> *Reply: **<billie.rinaldi@gmail.com>
>
> *I realize there isn't a lot of time before the deadline, but if you are
> interested in submitting a patch to HDFS I would encourage you to engage
> with the HDFS community to see if they are interested in such a feature to
> increase the likelihood of your patch being accepted. Their dev mailing
> list is hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org.
>
> I found one reference to Dapper in the HDFS tickets, HDFS-4680. The ticket
> isn't about tracing, but Todd Lipcon comments that he's experimented with
> adding tracing to Hadoop RPC and asks if people would find that useful.
> (There doesn't appear to be a reply.)
>
> Billie
>
> *Me:*
>
> Oh. I saw the ticket. I'll try that direction as well. Also, what do you
> think are my odds at getting a mentor since its too close to the deadline?
>
> I'm still requesting mentorship since its a formality for the programme.
> Still keeping my hopes up.
>
> *Reply: **<billie.rinaldi@gmail.com>
> *
> I suspect people may be reluctant due to the unknown nature of making
> changes to HDFS. Perhaps if you could find someone to agree to be your
> mentor on the HDFS side, it would be easier to find an Accumulo mentor for
> the part of the project that involves integrating the HDFS changes with
> Accumulo.
>
> Billie
>
> *Me: *
>
> So, when I'm putting an email in the HDFS list, shall I cite ACCUMULO-1197
> or HDFS-4680?*
> *
>
> *Reply: <billie.rinaldi@gmail.com>*
>
> Both. You could also mention that it could be useful for HBase as well, but
> that you aren't planning to do the HBase integration as part of your
> project.
>
> Link:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/accumulo-dev/201307.mbox/%3CCAETnooNCD4eMToySXHVyDQQ1SteuAGsns0%2BqmL4D_KSHCt6ehg%40mail.gmail.com%3E
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Akhil Anil <akhil.karun@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Luciano,
>> >
>> > I've gone through the things you pointed out. Please check my page for
>> an
>> > overview. Those are merely drafts, it's more of a kind some self-notes
>> for
>> > me now. I'll improve them soon.
>> >
>> > So the eventually can we call it partially finished if the same store
>> > example runs on both jquery and pojo ( whichever the user configures) ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> If you add support to enable the implementation.widget (which is used by
>> store application) to run with ONLY ONE javascript framework, being that
>> dojo (which is supported today) or jquery (which you will add).... then
>> it's kind done, and not partially done :)
>>
>> --
>> Luciano Resende
>> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
>> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
>> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>>
>
>

Luciano,
I posted an email in the Accumulo list expressing interest to work on
Accumulo-1197. I did some research on the end-goals. I can write a
proposal. But, the mentorship itself is stuck here. Here's the conversation
that happened. I've posted them down here since its kinda hard to read it
in the archives:
*Me:*
I have an idea to tackle this Jira. I've read the dapper paper and
currently examining the work done in thrift. Shall I make a detailed post
here?
I'm part of the ICFOSS Joint Mentoring Programme. So if someone can please
be my mentor, I'll be happy to work with you :)
[1] http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
*
*
*Me:
*Wouldn't modifying HDFS in any way mean forking the project? Wouldn't that
have problems in the long run?
*Reply:* *<keith@deenlo.com>*
Forking HDFS is not the way to go. Getting your ideas and patches accepted
by HDFS is the way to go.
*Me:*
I think its a good idea to modify HDFS and Accumulo to support HTrace since
HBase has also started working in this direction. The progress made could
benefit both projects. And also, HTrace follows the Dapper conventions.
I'm not an expert. But from what I read in Google's paper and what's being
provided in HTrace, we can modify HDFS instrumentation to add a 64-bit
span-id to the RPC when tracing is enabled. And on the receiver side, if it
receives a span-id, it shall also be traced with both the parent and child
nodes having the same trace-id.
What do you think? Please do correct me if I'm wrong.
P.S: Also, the last date for application for the mentoring ends on 19th
July. So, I request all the experts here to please let me know if you're
ready to be a mentor. And I assure you, I won't bug you too much in your
busy scheduler. It's a mandatory rule for the ICFOSS programme
-http://community.apache.org/mentoringprogramme-icfoss-pilot.html
*Me:*
Through this, I'm hoping to accomplish the task of roughly integrating
HTrace into Accumulo in a timeframe of approximately 2-and-a-half to 3
months. After the programme, I shall continue work on refining it.
According to the programme, the coding phase 'officially' starts on 5th Aug
and the preparations for final submission and tidying up of documentation
should happen by 28th Oct.
*Reply: **<billie.rinaldi@gmail.com>
*I realize there isn't a lot of time before the deadline, but if you are
interested in submitting a patch to HDFS I would encourage you to engage
with the HDFS community to see if they are interested in such a feature to
increase the likelihood of your patch being accepted. Their dev mailing
list is hdfs-dev@hadoop.apache.org.
I found one reference to Dapper in the HDFS tickets, HDFS-4680. The ticket
isn't about tracing, but Todd Lipcon comments that he's experimented with
adding tracing to Hadoop RPC and asks if people would find that useful.
(There doesn't appear to be a reply.)
Billie
*Me:*
Oh. I saw the ticket. I'll try that direction as well. Also, what do you
think are my odds at getting a mentor since its too close to the deadline?
I'm still requesting mentorship since its a formality for the programme.
Still keeping my hopes up.
*Reply: **<billie.rinaldi@gmail.com>
*
I suspect people may be reluctant due to the unknown nature of making
changes to HDFS. Perhaps if you could find someone to agree to be your
mentor on the HDFS side, it would be easier to find an Accumulo mentor for
the part of the project that involves integrating the HDFS changes with
Accumulo.
Billie
*Me: *
So, when I'm putting an email in the HDFS list, shall I cite ACCUMULO-1197
or HDFS-4680?*
*
*Reply: <billie.rinaldi@gmail.com>*
Both. You could also mention that it could be useful for HBase as well, but
that you aren't planning to do the HBase integration as part of your
project.
Link:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/accumulo-dev/201307.mbox/%3CCAETnooNCD4eMToySXHVyDQQ1SteuAGsns0%2BqmL4D_KSHCt6ehg%40mail.gmail.com%3E
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Akhil Anil <akhil.karun@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Luciano,
> >
> > I've gone through the things you pointed out. Please check my page for an
> > overview. Those are merely drafts, it's more of a kind some self-notes
> for
> > me now. I'll improve them soon.
> >
> > So the eventually can we call it partially finished if the same store
> > example runs on both jquery and pojo ( whichever the user configures) ?
> >
> >
> >
> If you add support to enable the implementation.widget (which is used by
> store application) to run with ONLY ONE javascript framework, being that
> dojo (which is supported today) or jquery (which you will add).... then
> it's kind done, and not partially done :)
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Akhil Anil <akhil.karun@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Luciano,
>
> I've gone through the things you pointed out. Please check my page for an
> overview. Those are merely drafts, it's more of a kind some self-notes for
> me now. I'll improve them soon.
>
> So the eventually can we call it partially finished if the same store
> example runs on both jquery and pojo ( whichever the user configures) ?
>
>
>
If you add support to enable the implementation.widget (which is used by
store application) to run with ONLY ONE javascript framework, being that
dojo (which is supported today) or jquery (which you will add).... then
it's kind done, and not partially done :)
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 7:28 AM, Anoop Nayak <anoopknayak@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Luciano,
>
> I had uploaded my initial draft in another site and was discussing in the
> bloodhound mailing list. I thought that our wiki needs a fair draft. So
> should I move in this rough one?
>
> Regards,
>
>
I'd recommend that, but the important thing is that you have already shared
it with your mentor/project community.
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

Hi Luciano,
I had uploaded my initial draft in another site and was discussing in the
bloodhound mailing list. I thought that our wiki needs a fair draft. So
should I move in this rough one?
Regards,
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 6:33 PM, Luciano Resende <luckbr1975@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > The student proposal deadline is this coming Friday (July 19). Please be
> > sure to submit your proposals before the deadline as I'm going to change
> > the ACL to disable adding new proposals after the deadline.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> BTW, I'm very disappointed that, after a month, and just a few days before
> the deadline, there is NO draft proposals available on the wiki yet. I hope
> that at least you guys have discussed the project ideas with the mentors.
>
> [1]
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/COMDEV/ASF-ICFOSS+Pilot+Mentoring+Programme
>
> --
> Luciano Resende
> http://people.apache.org/~lresende
> http://twitter.com/lresende1975
> http://lresende.blogspot.com/
>
--
Anoop

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Mohamed Rashid C <rashivkp@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Luciano,
> I am interested in cordova project
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB
> I have subscribed to mailing list, but I don't found any mentoring ideas
> for cordova in both lists
>
>
At this point, with less then 5 days for the proposal submission deadline,
I'd recommend choosing a project that has submitted project ideas.
--
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/