I am sayng that the "skeptic" in the video may not be a good candidate as a neutral party. I cite his involvment in NLP as a reason for this. I assume that his beliefs about mental programming and his ability to learn mental programs quickly from NLP practice would make him an ideal candidate for Systema manipulation. Furthermore, he is now a systema associate who is selling the DVD for a profit.

What part of that do you disagree with?

I disagree with NLP training being in anyway a detriment to one's ability to act as a skeptic. Such training makes one no more likely to be suseptable to manipulation from an outside source and in fact may be useful at dismantling attempt to induce specific states.

Lol!!!wtf do you think we do, hypnotise everyone who comes to classes, workshops, training?

Are you feeling sleeeeeppyy now?

Hypnotic induction is not a necessary precursor to manipulating someone through suggestion. The Amazing Kreskin made it a distinguishing part of his act for years, that he could do everything other stage hypnotists did to people without going through the "You are feeling very sleepy" rigamarole.

This is a promo. for a new DVD produced by British self defense instructor Richard Grannon, which proposes to answer some of the questions about Systema that have appeared in online forum debates over the years. According to the site, Mr. Grannon has studied quite a wide range of martial arts including Shito-ryu karate, jujitsu, aikido, ninjutsu, Muay Thai and BJJ, and works as a security consultant and doorman.

The promo. page includes an excerpt from the DVD in which Mr. Grannon is shown attempting various attacks against Systema teacher Paul Genge, as well as an "interview"-style clip in which he explains the reasons for making the DVD and offers some observations about Systema.

Disregarding the sales hype and assuming that this was an honest attempt by a non-Systema practitioner to investigate/"pressure test" the art, it might be of some value to people who have a skeptical interest in the Russian style.

I disagree with NLP training being in anyway a detriment to one's ability to act as a skeptic. Such training makes one no more likely to be suseptable to manipulation from an outside source and in fact may be useful at dismantling attempt to induce specific states.

This might be true if NLP were anything more than a nonsense-filled self-help fad. This guy has proven his inability to act skeptically by falling for it.

As far as I'm concerned the Transwell story sounds fishy. Do I believe that Transwell is telling the truth on what happened? Absolutely! What doesn't sound right is that the "instructor" told Transwell that he wasn't attacking the "right way". This goes against the very fabric of the system. In utilizing a free-response methodology, one is encouraged to attack in a variety of unscripted ways; there isn't a caveat of a "right way" for the attacker. Personally, this brings into question who this instructor is? Is he assocated with Vlad, or did he buy someof Vlad's videos and is misrepresenting the system. We already know about the off-base article by Trevor Robinson who resides in the UK. Could this be the same guy?

Guys, I'm conducting a research into this as you speak. I've gathered a group of instructors from different areas and we're going over their stuff right now. I'll have my findings by next week.

Very nice . I am still in contact with a local (somewhat local anyways ) Systema teacher and am making plans to go visit this summer .

You wanna know if this stuff works? Take a look at the fucking guy that's taking all the hits. No, seriously, watch HIM instead of the guru. He might as well be a stunt man on a movie set.

Which is kind of funny . I spent my childhook in an area where I met and dealt with stuntmen , FX guys , movie Martial Artists , I was on the sets of the first two ninja turtle movies (Strangely enoug one of my childhood instructors was "Foot Soldier #1 ") , The Crow , and an ungodly number of low budget action movies .

Everytime I start watching Systema videos I can almost taste the choreography , cheap coffee , and sugar glass .

Originally Posted by ghost55

Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.

“I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.”
BILL HICKS,
1961-1994

Originally Posted by WFMurphyPhD

Slamming the man in the bottom position from time to time keeps everybody on their toes and discourages butt scooting stupidity.

If you want to see Systema being pressure tested against viscious, full speed street fight attacks as well as MMA cage fighting techniques you need to buy this DVD now.

Systema applied in force on force full contact training against:

OH !!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess I would have to buy a video to see the real stuff that clarifies things ..... this is just an add for yet another Systema video . For a minute there I was thinking that this was some sort of proof that would answer questions .

Originally Posted by ghost55

Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.

“I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.”
BILL HICKS,
1961-1994

Originally Posted by WFMurphyPhD

Slamming the man in the bottom position from time to time keeps everybody on their toes and discourages butt scooting stupidity.