Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:04 pm Post subject: How much more do you need to see from Josh Freeman?

Last 5 games: 13 TD passes to 1 pick, and the Bucs are 4-1.

But on the other hand, Doug Martin announcing his presence to the league has been a big factor in the team's success, and they haven't exactly faced a murderer's row of defenses [Chiefs, Saints, Vikings, Raiders, Chargers].

So is Freeman for real or is he just taking advantage of favorable matchups a-la 2010?_________________
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Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: How much more do you need to see from Josh Freeman?

Tzimisce wrote:

Last 5 games: 13 TD passes to 1 pick, and the Bucs are 4-1.

But on the other hand, Doug Martin announcing his presence to the league has been a big factor in the team's success, and they haven't exactly faced a murderer's row of defenses [Chiefs, Saints, Vikings, Raiders, Chargers].

So is Freeman for real or is he just taking advantage of favorable matchups a-la 2010?

Those are the reasons I'm not sold on him yet. They're truly awful pass defenses this year.

His issue is consistency. Always has been. Not just game to game, but season to season.

Two things I need to see...

1) Perform at a high level in consecutive seasons.
2) Perform at a relatively high level vs some quality defenses.

Im not saying he needs to be elite or anything, but Im definitely not sold on him yet. There are alot of QBs who have had nice stretches, even though they werent that good overall. I still think he is an average QB until I see that consistency and ability to step up in big games._________________

You can certainly make the argument that we are playing weak pass defenses. Unfortunately for Freeman, our schedule doesn't get much tougher as the season goes on, so that criticism will stand as the season continues.

We played a lot of tougher games early, and the play calling has done a complete 180 since our Bye week in week 5. So while I'm sure it'll be mentioned that he played poorly against earlier opponents, we're a very different team now.

Well assuming the Bucs keep up this play... and with their schedule being somewhat manageable down the stretch, the Bucs should certainly be able to make the playoffs with what they have offensively and defensively.

So from then on, there shouldn't be a case where we can simply say, "Freeman is playing against vanilla defenses". I want to see Freeman guide his team to the playoffs and when he gets there, look at the very least pretty darn good. All games and matchups aren't going to go your way, but if he can do a decent job in the playoffs if he faces an elite defense/pass rush (like San Fran)... or good against a pretty good defense, than I'll be impressed. Now if he goes into the playoffs and does his best Matt Ryan impression, well then... nothing more to see here._________________

I just want to see Free continue to play well for the rest of the season and keep us in the playoff hunt. I don't see our secondary letting us make the playoffs but I hope Free can keep us in our last seven games._________________Adopt-a-BucMike Evans76 RECs 1,058 YDs 10 TDs