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you travel deeper and deeper into your mind until you see that you can only go in circles, and there is no way out.

then you become empty and you simply pray for an exit, then shit gets all fucking crazy and you begin seeing your subconscious or whatever it is that isn't your mind that exsists far behind the normal reality.

then when you come back you feel like you're plastered across several dimensions at once (in your body it feels like you're experiancing several differnt gravities at once, and everything appears super fucked perspectivly speaking)

Sounds like the combination u describe is pretty personal to your experience. I'm sure people have felt various aspects and combinations of those things...I've found though that it si tough to compare any two really intense psychadelic experiences...they are all so unique to the individual who experienced them. Maybe because describing their true nature is so difficult...

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First time i tripped i was in a continious mind loop. i was trying to sleep thrn i ws thinking abouyt the thoghtni had theh hoe i thought sbout thst snd do on, it was wierd1

--------------------"What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?" - Bill Hicks

sigh....not thought loops. i mean traversing the entire boundries of your brain over and over and over looking for a way out. exploring every nook and cranny of your conscious mind looking for an exit, watching the differnt you's form and unform and continously reshape, but its still the same, there is nothing else in there. realising you are completely alone and completely infinite.

i ask because it seems like this happens to me every once in a while on pyschedelics, and somehow i always forget it happens and that taking psychedelics for the purpose of unthinking myself is pointless.and someone i was talking to telepathically and than verbally asserted that the same thing had happened to him, and we discussed the possibility that it has happened to all trippers, but then again we looked at the poeple we were with, and its obviously not all trippers.

another friend of mine calls that state "higher processing" or something like that. uhm, to try and describe the state further, the normal twirls and spirals go away and are replaced by a really hard to describe superdimensional very geometric jigsaw puzzle, where you literally don't exsist.

if you want to try and recreate this for yourself, try looking hard at your deepest faults that you've been working years on getting rid of seeing where they come from, then try outthinking them.

feels like completely being taken apart from behind, and when you come back together you're completely you and you can only laugh hysterically.

I had a similar experience before; on very high dose:
I was having a million thoughts at once, about family/life/friends/music/movies/life/philosophy, it's not that I couldn't take it, but I felt scared that I "broke" my mind...

What I then did, was great; I got the idea that I should try and measure how fast my mind can process facts.
LOL; I turned on the TV, turned on "Yellow Submarine"on my computer, and grabbed myself an artbook (Van Gogh), and try and process them all at once.
It worked for an hour or so, incredible Yellow submarine was all about fun, perfect vibe
The news on the TV seemed very futile, Gameshows seemed sooooo slow and simple...
And the artbook seemed to be written all wrong; it tried to teach more, rather than describe why the paintings are so great...

But that is one advice I can give you; if you get too stuck in your own mind, try and relax...
Peace to everyone!

feels like completely being taken apart from behind, and when you come back together you're completely you and you can only laugh hysterically.

I experienced something quite similar on foxy methoxy. I feel it was my belief structure toppling down when I unsettled its base. I "watched," aghast, as it was destroyed and re-created with a solid foundation. This experience has had a greatly positive effect on me, despite that it was caused by proving to myself that god does not exist.

Of course there is no way out of your mind, because you are the thoughts you create. The freedom you seem to be looking for is in non-thought and no mind. The only way to escape the boundaries your thoughts create is to not have them.

You should try meditation to silence your mind and break free from your ego.

--------------------1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..."
2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..."
3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."

I get a similar feeling to this when I meditate in the bathroom. I'll be meditating and then I will start to feel like the whole universe is being stretched and shruken at the same time. It almost feels like viewing our dimension (3D) from a 4D prespective; i.e. the universe is becoming a flat (2D) plain . (read "Flatland" to understand).

--------------------~Life is one long ride, make it the best ride you can.

Quote:SYCOdelik said:I get a similar feeling to this when I meditate in the bathroom. I'll be meditating and then I will start to feel like the whole universe is being stretched and shruken at the same time. It almost feels like viewing our dimension (3D) from a 4D prespective; i.e. the universe is becoming a flat (2D) plain . (read "Flatland" to understand).

Last saturday me and a m8 brewed up 8gr using two mugs worth of water. What happened next was one of strangest experiences of my life, at first I was going mad laughing at everything and getting high off my thoughts, then I started to really explore all the things that came into my head getting deeper and deeper without realising just how far I had gone.

After a while of this im not sure how I started to think it but I was 100% that I had become trapped in thought and I would spend the rest of my life simply existing with no way to communicate to the outside world, I laid down silently, shouting in my mind calling out for anything that could hear me praying that I would be discovered and not left in the infinate place you discribe. As I had never tripped that hard before I spent the last 1/2hr of my trip near to death (in my mind) before puking up and comming down.

After it had happened I talked with my m8 for an hour or so about it as we smoked, laughing at it. But i think it will be a long time before i try and go back there, i dont think im ready for that just yet. But it was definatly an amazing experience that I wont forget!

I felt that kinda shit while tripping on acid, just i didn't go in circles, i just kept going farther and farther into thegreen swril on my melted room. I kept having to sit up to pull myself out of the trip, it scared me when i fell to farinto it...

--------------------I've got this feeling that there's something that I missed...

I'm curious as to what happens if you dont try to crawl back out of that experience and just keep going, like what will happen. I guess its sort of like what it was for adventurers back in the day they thought the world was flat. I have never experienced what you describe but next time I dose high I will go in for it, I've tried it once before but from my experience and from what i read about other people's experiences these are the hinders:

1.) fear of loosing ones mind (cause it feels like you can really reconstruct things up in there *points to head* and you're not god so you dont want to fuck up2.) inpatience (unless the experience isnt exciting enough3.) fear of the unknown or the great truth whic will be reveal to you. A thought such as meeting god or whatever might be to much sometimes, when i think this may actually happen when I dose high I always say to myself, "nah, thats too big for me just now, I'll have to do this some other time"... know what I mean...?

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on my first shroom trip i took about 4g's and at the peak I didn't loose my mind or anything, just temporarily, but when i was trying to fall asleep it felt like days had gone by and the sun came up before i could get to sleep. the whole time i was tripping about stuff like what if i act like i am on shrooms all the time and i go crazy and get sent to some unknown place where they work on my brain and shit like that. it really made my brain go into overdrive to figure out what was going to happen to my sanity!!!

--------------------"He who makes a beast of himself relieves the pain of being a man"-doctor johnson