All that power without good steering feedback takes the fun out of the car. Kia would do themselves well to get the chassis dynamics, suspension tuning and steering feel from the likes of Mazda. Then it would really be the complete package. Otherwise, the car is a stellar looker and great value.

All that power without good steering feedback takes the fun out of the car. Kia would do themselves well to get the chassis dynamics, suspension tuning and steering feel from the likes of Mazda. Then it would really be the complete package. Otherwise, the car is a stellar looker and great value.

Is it just me or does the red colour suck any attractiveness from the vehicle? Great looking, actually outstanding looking car, but not in this hideous colour!

That was my initial impression when I saw the pictures, too.

White, silver, or black looks much better on this car. Good value to people whose priorities aren't driving dynamics and steering feedback. Its value proposition is good looks and good value for the money.

If I was in the market for another family sedan today, I'd go for the Mazda 6, though.

All that power without good steering feedback takes the fun out of the car. Kia would do themselves well to get the chassis dynamics, suspension tuning and steering feel from the likes of Mazda. Then it would really be the complete package. Otherwise, the car is a stellar looker and great value.

Couldn't agree more. Proper steering feel is in one sense like the solid thump you get on a solid vehicle, it gives you confidence in it. And you can feel it within 5 metres of takeoff. Wimpy, lifeless steering gives me the feeling that steering feel is an afterthought for the manufacturer, and in my driving experience good driving feel is one of the most underrated aspects of safe driving. I want to know the conditions of the road by feeling it, not just looking at it.

Cool car and all but being FWD those 270+ horses are being wasted. I should go try one just to see how bad the torque steer is.......and there is no mention of an LSD, crikey would that inside tire burn bright during tight cornering.

I've never been one to be swayed by the 'design' or 'style' of a car...but every time I see an Optima in a parking lot or on the road, I actually can't help but give it another look - it's probably the best design Kia or Hyundai has (subjective, of course - but it swayed a long-time Korean-naysayer).

Front-drive turbos mounted transversely always seemed odd to me - the torque-steer would be quite pronounced with that much torque - I haven't driven it, so if the Author could give his thoughts on torque-steer in this car, please do!

The option packaging has always been a strong-suit IMO in Kias - very well equipped in base trims, and it doesn't make you feel like you MUST get a higher trim...but they're there if you want the options. I always hated how Toyota (and others) made you get the top trim plus leather to get heated seats - come on, almost $28k on a Corolla LE (back in 20010) to get heated seats? wow.

From the Article: "It is no wonder that a V6 is not available, a product planning decision that many of the companies in this segment have taken, because the added weight and expense are no longer necessary."

weight is a valid concern, but I would bet a few bucks that a V6 is still cheaper to build than a turbo 4 including its extra bits and reinforcements. I also wonder about long-term reliability.

As for Kia's interiors - UVO is an amazing system. It's simple to read, VERY reactive (note: eff you, Cadillac CUE), but I can understand the author's frustrations - still, we don't need 12" displays, a la Lexus, or 17" Tablets, a la Tesla Model S.

The black interior is drab and the red backlighting is the worst, physiologically-speaking, on the ability of human eyes to read them easily - well, worse only by blue that is too bright...

Fuel economy is respectable for a car this size with this much power.

The Optima goes up against a horribly crowded segment. The likes of the Japanese have been around for a long time, which equates to great refinement. Kia's making a GREAT car all things considered...I'd 100% take a drive if I were looking for a mid-size sedan...and I'd actually consider buying (err, leasing) this with its value proposition and great styling.

Cool car and all but being FWD those 270+ horses are being wasted. I should go try one just to see how bad the torque steer is.......and there is no mention of an LSD, crikey would that inside tire burn bright during tight cornering.

i've never driven the Kia Optiman Turbo, but have driven the Sonata Turbo (so it should be the same in this regard)...torque steer was negligible at best (i didn't even notice it at all, but i suppose there may have been a hint of it)...Jaeger can likely attest to this since he owns one as well.

Cool car and all but being FWD those 270+ horses are being wasted. I should go try one just to see how bad the torque steer is.......and there is no mention of an LSD, crikey would that inside tire burn bright during tight cornering.

100%. Anything over 220 hp is useless as the electo nannies will retard power to combat torque steer. Unless the car is equipped with a front suspension with significantly reduced camber change then don't bother.

Still waiting for Kia/Hyundai to put a 4 door body on the Genesis Coupe RWD chassis and make a budget 3 series fighter.

I've not driven the Optima Turbo but had a regular Optima for a week for a rental and I would describe the steering feel as ..for lack of a better word"weird". Its springy and video game like. I understand the idea of the Turbo in a non sporty chassis. Its for the people who want a bit more grunt. I find the base engine perfectly fine and quite economical thanks to the long top gear keeping the revs down.

Still waiting for Kia/Hyundai to put a 4 door body on the Genesis Coupe RWD chassis and make a budget 3 series fighter.

I've not driven the Optima Turbo but had a regular Optima for a week for a rental and I would describe the steering feel as ..for lack of a better word"weird". Its springy and video game like. I understand the idea of the Turbo in a non sporty chassis. Its for the people who want a bit more grunt. I find the base engine perfectly fine and quite economical thanks to the long top gear keeping the revs down.

As big of a problem as people around here have with the ATS....can you imagine if a brand as peasant-ish (not to me, I like them, but compared to their precious Bayerische Motoren Werke) as Hyundai brought to the market a competitor to their precious 3 series......oh sweet jesus that would be funny.

Still waiting for Kia/Hyundai to put a 4 door body on the Genesis Coupe RWD chassis and make a budget 3 series fighter.

I've not driven the Optima Turbo but had a regular Optima for a week for a rental and I would describe the steering feel as ..for lack of a better word"weird". Its springy and video game like. I understand the idea of the Turbo in a non sporty chassis. Its for the people who want a bit more grunt. I find the base engine perfectly fine and quite economical thanks to the long top gear keeping the revs down.

As big of a problem as people around here have with the ATS....can you imagine if a brand as peasant-ish (not to me, I like them, but compared to their precious Bayerische Motoren Werke) as Hyundai brought to the market a competitor to their precious 3 series......oh sweet jesus that would be funny.

yeah I know. I don't really think anyone would cross shop it. There just isn't a lot of demand for RWD sport sedans in the lower price ranges. But I think it would be nice to have a choice other than 40 K BMW, Lexus IS or Cadillac. I just think about how in demand those old Lexus IS 300 with the RWD and inline 6 are.

Thats because no one has ever given us the option. A RWD sedan at about the Genesis Coupes price level would do well.....I cant afford an ATS or a CTS-V....but a $30K rwd, turbo sedan, I could sell that to the wife no problem. Especially since it has a long warranty.