[quote="Harrier":30tgc9fx]Sadly that holds little appeal to me and would basically eliminate people like me from any title matches in which I feel that the characters involved are of more or less equal chance of winning.

So take this as a serious question and not a trolling attempt please:What about people like me then?

To be fair, you haven't shown any interest in pursuing belts. So we don't have to take your opinion into consideration re: title matches.

Daemongirl on the other hand, we will listen to.

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NEWS FLASH: the Archergurl who you speaking of is not part of AFW anymore and she's currently working in production for new game titles in Japan. I'm her Canadian friend who she gave her PC due to mines has crashed. She was nice enough to give it to me to help a friend in need. So she got a spared one that she uses for the things I've mention above. BTW, Anegge and Alexandra be sure to check the E-mail adresses carefully. As Archergurl and me aren't the same thing.

ummm, well as far as I go I am more than open to do predetermined matches if thats what my rp partner wants to do, I tend to be more of a go with the flow type rper who just likes to see how a match plays out and then go with whoever the winner looks to be. I think if both players trust each other then a competitive match can be a ton of fun, but to avoid issues I am all for predetermined ones, its pretty much what I do near the end of matches anyway, pming the other player and talking about how the end should go.

[quote="Harrier":18wnvwdg]Sadly that holds little appeal to me and would basically eliminate people like me from any title matches in which I feel that the characters involved are of more or less equal chance of winning.

So take this as a serious question and not a trolling attempt please:What about people like me then?

To be fair, you haven't shown any interest in pursuing belts. So we don't have to take your opinion into consideration re: title matches.

Daemongirl on the other hand, we will listen to.

"One does not simply walk into Mordor"Meaning that there were people ahead of me all the time(For example Oathkeeper).

I already had a title shot as substitute for the triple thread that went out the window and would have said no if I were not interested in belts? I am also interested in the Tag Team(already wrote that two times in threads of Barb Wire) and to a lesser Extend the Kawaii belt.

I also never asked for a shot at a top 10 place cause Nr. 9 was Taylor which would have resulted in a match that would have horribly bombed after the experience of Entropy Belt match(totally different styles) and Megumi was fresh as Nr. 10 and that's not my style to attempt take something from someone who has recently gained it.

Harrier makes fair comments regarding people possibly not liking predetermined matches and like I said earlier, before making this thread I listed that a possible stopping point of this idea being that some people might not like playing predetermined matches at all, creating a barrier for them competing in title matches. I was actually expecting a lot more people to voice up that they did not want to play in predetermined matches, its been a pleasant surprise that that has not been the case

The suggestion of using a coin flip at a set point during the match is ok, however it takes two members in tune with each other to play a match and then have a coin flip force them in a direction that perhaps their match had not been going towards and still make the match look good. In addition, coin flip decision does not promote *as much* harmony between players as just deciding the match at the beginning and building the match together from then on. I might have been willing to allow the occasional few title matches being decided with a coin flip, but if someone who was only willing to decide matches in this fashion won a belt, then all title defenses with that member would have to be done with a coin flip decision half way through the match there after. That's something that would be preferable to avoid

I do not want to bully you (Harrier) or anyone else in your position into changing your opinion about predetermined matches. But I hope you can understand that this suggestion will promote togetherness in AFW, as well as help improve the fun and quality of title matches in average. Hopefully prevent several other members opting out of title matches and prevent their value being misinterpretation... And if some time in the future your tastes change and you feel more interested in playing predetermined matches, great.