Comments on: O’s skipper Buck Showalter rips Theo Epstein, Derek Jeterhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Sun, 02 Aug 2015 23:32:26 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: ken khttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-703709
Tue, 13 May 2014 14:16:35 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-703709Have to agree with Buck that the Yankees sure get a lot of calls. This year Jeter is being given the smallest strike zone I’ve ever seen.
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Mon, 12 May 2014 21:25:33 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-703399has a RIGHT to be bitter?

sounds like a democrat to me then…

]]>By: sparky1002http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-695901
Mon, 28 Apr 2014 12:16:24 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-695901Poor Buck…always a Bridesmaid and never a Bride at the “big one”. Maybe he can purchase one of Derek Jeters rings and have the inscription changed?
]]>By: chinahand11http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-694416
Fri, 25 Apr 2014 16:05:15 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-694416Great analogy Panda, my thoughts were similar, Bucko being a little “Caliperi-esque” laying groundwork for future calls.
]]>By: deweybest24http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-122092
Fri, 25 Mar 2011 01:07:50 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-122092Seems to me that a real manager should not have to demean another team in order to “fire up” his own team……………
]]>By: bigdicktaterhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-122087
Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:17:37 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-122087…or in the control tower of a major metropolitan airport.
]]>By: rapmusicmademedoithttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-122077
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:28:57 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-122077Buck is just pissed about being fired and having to watch the Yankees and Arizona win the world series.

Buck is a good baseball man he helped build those two teams up to that point.

Buck really didn’t say anything bad about DJ.

I loved the Theo dig, it is true.

]]>By: bobwschttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121975
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 20:02:58 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121975wonder if he’s still rocking the comb-over under that hat
]]>By: chefc4emf4http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121952
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 19:36:36 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121952Seems to me like all you loser Red Sox and Yankees fans can’t take an fing joke or manager of another team firing his club up. For fans of a team that has had a winning record for the past decade, you all sure are a bunch of p-ssies.
]]>By: frankvzappahttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121892
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 18:07:12 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121892big words coming from a man whose team finishes last every year…

]]>By: stinkfist5http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121859
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:27:07 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121859Don’t F*ck With Buck!http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330535633826&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
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Thu, 24 Mar 2011 17:18:45 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121852You have some good points but Showalter wasn’t exactly blocked by Don Mattingly. Showalter is 5 years older and a had a 2 year head start in pro baseball. He was in AA when Mattingly was in A-, and Buck made AAA a season before Mattingly but he didn’t stick. By 1982 Showalter was the 1B for AA and Mattingly was playing mostly OF for AAA.

It really comes down to the fact that Showalter stalled out in AA after 5 years in the system and Mattingly took 3 years to go to AAA and perform. In 1982 Showalter hit .294/.366/.379, 3,46 at AA and Mattingly hit .315/.378/.437, 10,75 at AAA. The previous season they were AA teammates and one of the guys hit .316 with 98 RBI while the other hit .264 with 38.

It’s not like Buck was blocked by a 19th Rd. Draft pick who was groomed by the Yankees for stardom. He was a light hitting first baseman who stalled at AA at age 26 and never hit in limited opportunities at AAA. In Showalter’s last season Mattingly wasn’t even established in the majors and played OF more than 1B.

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Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:45:14 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121826What not educate yourself before making a horses arse out of your own self. Showalter was an All-American at Mississippi State and never played in the big leagues only because he was a first baseman and the Yankees had Don Mattingly the entire time Buck was in their organization. He never got traded or released by the Yankees and decided to go into coaching while he was still a good player. Ozzie wouldn’t know that because he, like you, doesn’t bother with facts.
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Thu, 24 Mar 2011 16:41:26 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121821Overall this is a good thing. Showalter is old school and from the days when you were supposed to hate the other team, not this everyone is friends style. If the Orioles can compete, that will be great for baseball. And let’s be honest, on both items, he does have a valid point.
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Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:46:56 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121786The part about Jeter sounds like he’s playing basketball coach here. Let’s throw the notion out there that Jeter’s get favorable calls, then see if some of the calls start going the other way. Nothing that Phil Jackson or Rick Pitino wouldn’t do about trying to get into the minds of the referees.

Not sure this method works on some baseball umpires though, given their lofty egos and inability to admit they might be wrong once in a while.

It’s probably also an attempt by Showalter to direct attention to himself, which theoretically takes pressure and focus off the players. Plus it’s certainly a bold way to promote a new attitude to his team.

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Thu, 24 Mar 2011 15:04:26 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121760Sorry, marinersnate. Let me restate: “And most of that $82 million probably came from the Yankees and the Red Sox through REVENUE SHARING.” Happy now? By the way, the Yankees were once again rated by Forbes as the most valuable team in baseball — in excess of $5 billion. What are the Mariners worth? $1.97? (That’s not billions, by the way. I mean one dollar and ninety-seven cents). So, I guess having a $5 billion franchise to go along with your 27 world championships (or is it 28? I can’t remember) isn’t a bad place to be. Of course, compared to Seattle, anywhere isn’t a bad place to be.
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Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:52:29 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121755I love it! What I think is funny is how the sports press takes anything anyone says about anyone and turns it into a “rip” or a “burn.” That criticism of Jeter has been going on for years and he’s right about Epstein (not pronounced Einstein). Of course the Yankees and Red Sox are going to get better players. What free agent in his right mind wouldn’t want to go to a perennial contender with bottomless pockets? These were not vitriolic statements. Having said that, Buck had to know the press would twist his words as they have. Sports journalists have to make money in the offseason, too. If anything, this is an indictment on them. For shame. Go Buck! And Go O’s!
]]>By: yankeesfanlenhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121754
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:51:24 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121754Rex Ryan South
]]>By: paperlionshttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121712
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:01:12 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121712…or sleepy at a traffic light.
]]>By: paperlionshttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121711
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:57:38 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121711*no Jeter apologist
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Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:57:16 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121710I’m not Jeter apologist, but could it be that he looks like he’s jumping back from inside pitches (or that he does jump back from inside pitches) because he strides toward the plate instead of toward the mound?
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It may be that he does it because of his mechanics and not because of some larger goal of getting a few more inside calls, which likely wouldn’t work anyway….the umps (most of them) know exactly where the ball is and no amount of jumping around is going to change their call…in fact, many would probably give the pitcher a little more room because of such shenanigans.
]]>By: marinersnatehttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121703
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 07:51:11 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121703“And most of that $82 million probably came from the Yankees and the Red Sox through the luxury tax.”

The “luxury tax” is NOT part of revenue sharing. Other teams do NOT recieve a dime of it. Do a little bit of research.

]]>By: Utley's Hairhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121688
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 04:41:17 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121688Or I would jump in between with another cup to catch the coffee—’cause coffee is second on the list of stuff you don’t waste (any guesses on the top of the list?).
]]>By: Ari Collinshttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121687
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 04:27:32 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121687I’d dive in between him and the coffee. It would look like I’m “taking the bullet for him,” but I would then use my cybernetic lungs to create a minor windstorm to scatter the coffee harmlessly into the air.

Then… then it would be on, my friend.

]]>By: Ari Collinshttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121686
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 04:24:48 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121686Yeah, no, it was a good showing considering their overall record. But still. I’m glad he enjoyed “whipping their butt” all three times it happened.
]]>By: bigharoldhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121685
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 04:24:38 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121685” Showalter just comes off as a dick.”

No he doesn’t.

First of all he’s right. Jeter’s one of my favorite all time players but that “…umping back from balls just off the plate.” stuff, .. he does do that a lot and gets away with it. Read it carefully, he didn’t criticize Epstein, just the notion that he’s a genius, which for the record he isn’t. The only thing out of the ordinary is he said it aloud.

And, you’re missing the point. The incident I referred to the Yankees weren’t happy about something and Madden didn’t care and made a point of saying so. Showalter is doing the same thing. He’s, depending one your point of view, declaring that he’s not concerned about what the Yankees or Red Sox think or hanging a target on the O’s collective back.

While I wouldn’t have done that I understand he did and I think the O’s will be a bigger problem for the powers in the AL than most people think and right around .500 is a reasonable expectation.

]]>By: Ari Collinshttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121684
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 04:23:08 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121684To explain further without the snark: I was just pointing out that it’s weird that Showalter sounded like he thought Boston had the $205M payroll last year.

More likely he just didn’t realize he hadn’t mentioned the Yankees, or something. I mean, it’s easier to make a mistake like that when speaking than typing from your mom’s basement. (Like I am right now. I am currently typing from your mom’s basement.)

The other weird thing is that Showalter himself only beat the Red Sox 3 times last year, so it’s not like he had a ton of times to celebrate “whipping their butt”. (As an aside, isn’t the phrase “whupping their butt”? That’s a lot more manly than using a whip on someone’s rear end, which sounds more like an S&M thing.) And the Orioles got whupped themselves by the Yankees last year, and the FIVE victories they had weren’t even all with Showalter at the helm.

Snark’d or unsnark’d versions aside, the great thing about the 9-9 record the Os managed against Boston (is 11-11 counting Spring Training?) is that even the low-payroll teams (which the Orioles weren’t, but still) can beat the big boys any given day in this sport. And while as a Sox fan it was frustrating, of course, there’s always SOME team that beats your more than it “should”. Gotta love the quirks of baseball, even when they work against your favorite team.

]]>By: turtletuggerhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121681
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 04:16:17 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121681And then Id throw that coffee in your face. We might lose but we still care and we are on our way back to winning.
]]>By: uyf1950http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121679
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 04:02:00 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121679…with 3 loses. A .500 record just like his predecessor.
]]>By: turtletuggerhttp://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/03/23/47204/comment-page-1/#comment-121678
Thu, 24 Mar 2011 03:59:03 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=47204#comment-121678If you want to be clever about it fine…Number of times Baltimore beat a 186M Red Sox team last year: 11 (in 22 tries)
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