Post by ntellier85 on Jan 3, 2012 22:45:31 GMT -5

That fact that Duddits just quotes that and votes for me when I clearly gave an explanation makes it fairly obvious to me he was trying to make a quiet vote. Suspicious for sure. Why are you not as vocal this game as last game Duddits?

Post by duddits on Jan 3, 2012 23:57:41 GMT -5

That's understandable. I've been busy this week, and last week even, with non-inforoo/non-online things. In hindsight I probably should have sat out this game given events in my personal life.

I just found it odd that there were two quick votes for one person. The LD vote for Scrog I understand as Scrog voted for LD. Phi wants Scrog in a run-off, so he votes for Scrog. Ok. I vote for Phi (I say the vocal person who wants someone in a run-off should be thrown right in that same run-off with them). Then immediately he switches his vote to me. Did you not just say earlier you wanted Scrog in a runoff? In my experience Mafia stack votes on the innocent to rid of them.

As to why I'm not as vocal this game as last? That's because this game we don't have someone (ahem, Phi :D) coming out of the gate claiming to be Inspector. In all honesty last game most of my posts were deductive reasoning. "If Phi is telling the truth about being Inspector, then this would hold true. If Phi is not telling the truth about being Inspector, then this would hold true. Its also because I honestly have not been at my PC more than once or twice a day at best.

And yet again there is an immediate vote stack. Phi was behind the first one, now bonzai, with Phi's help yet again for the second one. I use vote stack loosely, as two votes could be debated as not being a stack. Either way, if y'all want me in a run-off, that's fine. I'm telling you now that I'm a Townsperson.

If I've been quiet this game it's because of external factors and the fact that there's really nothing to be vocal about right now.

I'll be more vocal now as apparently this Townsperson is gonna need to defend himself.

Post by duddits on Jan 4, 2012 0:02:24 GMT -5

Also Phi, we're FB friends. Bonzai, Kat, you, FM, and even Scrog should know that I proposed to my gf on Sunday (that is if you've been on FB or looked at my profile). Since then my days/nights have been work, and meeting up with family on both sides to celebrate.

Post by Scrog on Jan 4, 2012 2:33:13 GMT -5

Phi, you make a lot of vote changes and accusations. Last round I voted for you, because I wanted someone who was less sketchy the first round and previous games, but like I said, the vote was probably between two townies, what I am saying is that I do not think you are Mafia. If you wanted me in a run-off, I am fine with that, but if you want me in a run-off, then I think it is fair. since you want me there, that you are there with me. One thing to think about though, more than likely, that run-off will include two townies in a run-off. Which leads me to vote stacking! Duddits, you might see Phil as Mafia, his vote stack sure shows that, I understand your vote for him, but vote stacks cause me concern and you differently sent off a red flag. Bonzai, vote stacked on Duddits. This also causes me concern. I think there is a difference of role here and I would like to see you with the same amount of votes as Duddits and see where that goes. LD, I specifically said, I am looking at BEK voters and the vote switching I find interesting, so "voting partners round 2". Well, yes and the fact you switched votes and voted for BEK.

Post by Scrog on Jan 4, 2012 2:35:15 GMT -5

Also Phi, we're FB friends. Bonzai, Kat, you, FM, and even Scrog should know that I proposed to my gf on Sunday (that is if you've been on FB or looked at my profile). Since then my days/nights have been work, and meeting up with family on both sides to celebrate.

Post by bonzai on Jan 4, 2012 7:56:30 GMT -5

I did see and congrats, Duddits!! I was going to say something on here (either in here or the Yay thread), but I didn't know if there was a reason why you hadn't mentioned it. So I kept my mouth shut!

I didn't vote for you because you were quiet, but because you were quiet and then slid in with a vote and only a few words. Not saying that you ARE mafia, but I wanted to get a vote in before I was the last to vote.

And Scrog, yes it stacked the votes, but A. it was the only thing that has stood out to me so far and I was planning to vote for him before I saw Phi's post- I saw that it was a stack, but why would I vote for someone 100% random, when I feel a little suspicious of another person? It's not like it's a 52 card pickup like the first round usually is. And B. Like I just said, I wanted to get a vote in, even if it changes- and there is a good chance it will)

Post by Scrog on Jan 4, 2012 10:48:12 GMT -5

Bonzai, you make a good point and I see where you are coming from, so you can understand where I am coming from. I learned in earlier games, I think from EAP, even though I fought it at the time, if you are stacking a vote, you should be in the run-off with the one you stacked a vote against. No?

So, we just had three vote stacks early in the voting. Phi on meDuddits on PhiBonazi on DudditsI would like to see all three vote stack-ers in a run-off.2 out of 3 is not bad.I think townies lose if we only have one of those three in a run off.If I am wrong, the others can decide.For the time being, my vote is staying with, Mafia LD, who just got very defensive.

Post by bonzai on Jan 4, 2012 13:27:15 GMT -5

I wasted away my lunch on BMOTM, and have no time to thoroughly read and post right now. So I will just say this, I was only thinking that the vote stacking was bad in the first round. I didn’t realize it would cause this much of a stir or I wouldn’t have posted that. What I learned two games ago, was not to use knowledge of outside life as judgment in the game. LD went super quiet after being super vocal and it was at the same time that he started to become active in Occupy. I attributed his irrational behavior to the Occupy stuff. But it turned out that he was mafia. I knew about Duddit’s engagement and considered it, and put it aside. Driving to work this morning, I was planning on reviewing the past few pages and changing my vote because I was feeling bad.. but with the newest posts, I currently feel stuck.

I am drafting this on my email and will cut and paste it to Inforoo because I know it will look bad if I don’t post again (and I won’t have time until after job two tonight) and I don’t want the townies to lose again! Even though I voted Bek, I do feel as though we are already down two townies.

Post by abrakapokus on Jan 4, 2012 13:59:05 GMT -5

Post by rdk0r on Jan 4, 2012 14:32:30 GMT -5

I'd like to see a run-off between Duddits and Bonzai but I'm not very suspicious of anyone at this point. As for not posting much, see last game plus there is nothing to really go on besides the vote stacks. What is your reason for voting for me?

Post by abrakapokus on Jan 4, 2012 15:50:04 GMT -5

I'd like to see a run-off between Duddits and Bonzai but I'm not very suspicious of anyone at this point. As for not posting much, see last game plus there is nothing to really go on besides the vote stacks. What is your reason for voting for me?

Your early vote stack on LD even though you later said it was a mistake, you didn't notice other ppl didn't have a vote on them. I wonder if you were mafia and you wanted LD out then backed out and switched to BEK so it wouldn't be obvious. That and you have been so quiet, as I already said.

Post by abrakapokus on Jan 4, 2012 16:29:08 GMT -5

She could be mafia for all I know. I just wanted to know your reasoning behind voting for her. My point wasn't to defend anyone but to see what your thoughts are behind your vote and if you were mafia to get you to talk more so you would perhaps trip up.