TRT IS testosterone. Hence, the first T. Testosterone IS a steroid. It CAN increase your text level to 10X normal if you take enough of it.It sure can raise your testosterone limits sky high if you take enough.

GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

The entire process of undergoing TRT is to use the father of all anabolic steroids, synthetic testosterone, so I don't understand what you mean by "It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do".

Nate 'Rock' Quarry - TRT IS testosterone. Hence, the first T. Testosterone IS a steroid. It CAN increase your text level to 10X normal if you take enough of it.It sure can raise your testosterone limits sky high if you take enough.

This!

I'll never understand how people can say that taking testosterone, even in small doses as with TRT, to bring their test up to levels higher than those of their all-natural counterparts is ethically/legally ok. We all know that it is technically legal under certain guidelines, I think that some of us just question why you're legally allowed to cheat in moderation.

If your body is no longer test at the same level it did when you were 21 it's not called a sickness... It's called getting old. Supplementing with added synthetic test is roiding, plain and simple.

GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

I am all for TRT, its 2013 we have the medicine to make us stronger, and healthier. That said it can be easily abused.

Few things that are funny are the people who shit on it and think "TRT" is a substance, or the other people who say its not steroids. Testosterone is the king of steroids, its also natural in human beings, yes even females has some. I love the "lol look at them wasting away! Poor souls" shit because the whole fucking point is they are taking the stuff so they don't fucking look and feel like shit (not saying some aren't abusing).

Nate 'Rock' Quarry - TRT IS testosterone. Hence, the first T. Testosterone IS a steroid. It CAN increase your text level to 10X normal if you take enough of it.It sure can raise your testosterone limits sky high if you take enough.

This!

I'll never understand how people can say that taking testosterone, even in small doses as with TRT, to bring their test up to levels higher than those of their all-natural counterparts is ethically/legally ok. We all know that it is technically legal under certain guidelines, I think that some of us just question why you're legally allowed to cheat in moderation.

If your body is no longer test at the same level it did when you were 21 it's not called a sickness... It's called getting old. Supplementing with added synthetic test is roiding, plain and simple.

about 7 years ago this trt became very popular in long island new york....i knew of a doctor that found everyones test low.....that meant your insurance would pay for all my friends steroid use...i wittnessed my friends dad in his mid 50's turn his body into a chizzled rock in 2 months.....crazy shit...and to say its fair for these guys to be on it in their 30's is nutz.

to me its the same as playing football without a helmet in the nfl.....as the level of performance gets honed to higher and higher levels and dudes bodies become a weapon with insane capabilities you are going to see increase in serious injuries.

Caught_clean - I am all for TRT, its 2013 we have the medicine to make us stronger, and healthier. That said it can be easily abused.

Few things that are funny are the people who shit on it and think "TRT" is a substance, or the other people who say its not steroids. Testosterone is the king of steroids, its also natural in human beings, yes even females has some. I love the "lol look at them wasting away! Poor souls" shit because the whole fucking point is they are taking the stuff so they don't fucking look and feel like shit (not saying some aren't abusing).

Fighters should be able to use meth with your reasoning. Why not bath salts? Now that would be a fight; Paul Harris chewing some guys face off.

Well YEA UG! Lets do another TRT thread to shit on the users, BTW WTF IS Page and all the rest BTW?

Let's also ignore that one fighter after another is coming forward saying 80 percent of the UFC roster is on 'the real juice' (the last one being Stun Gun) and forget about all the fighters that got popped too for using the good shit!

GableGrip - TRT puts your testosterone at a normal level of a young man. It doesn't increase it 10X like taking steroids or testosterone do.

When men get over the age of 30, testosterone level start naturally decreasing. So when a guy like Hendo is placed on TRT, it brings his testosterone levels to what they once were and the same as his younger apponent. It does not bring it sky high to above natural limits. It's for guys who have lower testosterone levels to help them find a normal, not decreased or low range.

Guys like Paul Harris and Overeem are cheating by increasing thier levels to extreme porportions.

naive. people can abuse the shit out of it.

True, but we're told time and again BY FIGHTERS that MOST fighters are abusing much stronger shit (see my post above).

Random testing across the board is the only solution to the issue. I'd argue for a max TE ratio of 3.5:1 as well max at any point (just to cover some 'natural" freaks, 3.5 is plenty).

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