Argos’ Marcus Ball on Johnny Manziel: nobody cares about what you used to be

Ball, who won a Grey Cup with the Argos in November, took to Instagram on Friday morning to offer his opinion on Manziel who has been given the green light to play in the CFL next season.

“Johnny who?!? #Nobodycareaboutwhat you used to be. Line that shi up #6 #GreyCupChampion #TodayIsTheDay”

Manziel is a former Heisman Trophy winner at Texas A&M and was selected in the first round, No. 22 overall, by the Cleveland Browns in the 2014 NFL draft. But his professional career fizzled – he went 2-6 as a starter in the NFL – as his personal life unravelled. His partying lifestyle and off-field issues, including an alleged domestic violence incident were a big enough concern that the league went through an extensive vetting process before allowing him to sign with a team. The Hamilton Tiger-Cats, the traditional rivals of Ball’s Argos, own Manziel’s rights and have nine days to offer him a contract.

Ball is a two-time Grey Cup champion with the Argos, garnered an East all-star selection in 2017 and is well-respected throughout the league for his leadership. His post collected more than 500 likes in the first hour – teammate Rico Murray offered a comment in support – and it will be interesting to see if other players echo his sentiments.

188 Comments on Argos’ Marcus Ball on Johnny Manziel: nobody cares about what you used to be

And who is this Marcus Ball ?!? A former gang banger wtih a modicum of skill that did not allow him to play north of the border. As a result, he is developing CTE for less pay than a manager at Burger King makes. Tweet that clown …

were you attempting to say south of the border, which by the way he did for a couple of seasons. Are you sure he earns less than a BK manager? Curious, is it okay to develop CTE if you earn more than that manager?

Thanks. Still waiting on the answer regarding the BK manager however. 2017 GREY CUP CHAMPIONS – TORONTO ARGONAUTS!!!
Where was Ball playing for the few seasons he wasn’t with the Argos?
South of the border?

So, I guess we’ll go with you don’t have an answer. Don’t worry, I’m sure everyone will be impressed with you obvious deep football knowledge. You can always tell the “football experts”. Make the big statement then insult when challenged. So very predictable.

A lot of hubris coming from a guy with a pedestrian 3 tackles in the Grey Cup. Won off a 1 in a million play.
It will be fun watching Calgary shut his mouth on June 23 in the stadium where they are house guests, sleeping on Toronto FC’s couch and again on Sept 28 at historic McMahon.

your initial comment and my response was about this past GC, you know it. Go ahead and try and worm your way out of it like you normally try to do but the facts are the Stamps lost the last 2 grey cups because they simply were not as good as their opponent. That is how the game works. You nor the stamps have no basis to abuse someone else when they won the cup and your team didnt. Now sorry, you try again, which I am sure you will with some demented point of view. You have even gone so far within a couple weeks of the GC to call the stamps the best team in the league. By the way, the best team in the league are called GC Champs. Sorry try that again. teeeeheee.

You said he “IS A” greycup winner and no stamps were. You didn’t say he “WAS THE” greycup winner and the stamps weren’t. Big difference in those linguistics.
Toronto won the game yes, but its hard to argue they were a better team. Calgary executed their game plan perfectly. That was a signature stamp game in 2017! Look at the stats… the biggest being time if possession, Calgary had the ball more than 13 minutes longer! Thats how Calgary won games all year

They might have WON on a “1 in a million play” but the key to your comment is WON. This is not the Olympics, you did not win silver, you LOST on a “1 in a million play.” I have never seen a loser brag so much about how they lost before. You ARE ‘special’.

Loving the Grey Cup win as I know it’s bugging you oh so much.
2017 GREY CUP CHAMPION – TORONTO ARGONAUTS!!!
NFL ALL THE WAY BABY. You mean the league that I’ve supported with my dollars south of the border for years. Oh sorry, I forgot, football fans can only support one league (according to Jason).
Think there’s much chance any of the players participating in the Orange Bowl will play for Toronto’s franchise, ouch!!!
Wow, really, the best players in the world are going to play in the NFL? You honestly don’t understand that some of those same players will also end up in the CFL, do you? Wow, I see your football knowledge goes even deeper.
What have you done to occupy your time away from the important decisions in the “board room”. Yes, Jason, you told me many times how you won. Interesting, as others leaving comments seemed to think otherwise. But hey, what do they know, you’re in the “boardroom”.

“Ok… you can’t talk, 3 grey cups in 18 years is not that good buddy. I don’t know how you can think that is an accomplishment. Sure it is better than the ticats.Man do I have to tell you how to brag! Argo fan incompetency! Brag about how the Argos have the most tittles won in total. There my friend I have helped you out. Your welcome and so is your incompetency”.

Only a Ti-Cat fan could possibly state the above. Since 1983 no team has won more Grey Cups than the Argos. 3 since the last time the Cats won. But you leave that comment. Classic. Try research in the future.

Ball was playing on a shredded ankle for the EF and GC, but was still out there on the field owning the Stamps (the Argos defence kept them in the game long enough to win it), and was the emotional heart and soul of the Argos all season. Heart and soul being something the Stamps lack, just go look at Vaughn’s fumble return and see how few white and red shirts show up in the video, vs. all the blue ones there (including Ball throwing a block).

Funny how you’re hoping to see more regular season wins from the Stamps, since that’s all they’re good at. And I’ve been to McMahon, it isn’t any more historic than a highway overpass halfway between nowhere and not much else. The Stamps are hangers on of the Flames, waiting for new development from their rich daddies so they have a modern stadium like BMO to play in.

Why a cfl player would get after Johnny Manziel is mind boggling. Johnny CRA zirlnhas been very quiet and if anything humbled saying he has to earn his spot on a team. That is all he has said. It is everyone else including all the media that has lot say including us. He needs to apologize. .

If the Argos were the holders of Manziel’s rights – thus windbag would be all over social media welcoming Manziel with a huge shit eating grin and open arms. It is my hope that Manziek eventually wins the starting job and he spends his career shredding the Arblow defense

Do yourself a favour horse and quit while you are ahead.
1. They lost so NO THEY WERE NOT THWE BETTER TEAM. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD AND THEN SHUT UP ABOUT IT< AT LEAST TIL THEY WIN ONE.
2. THOSE linguistics?? That does not even make sense. If you want tot use big words, Learn HOW to use them first.
3. It has nothing to do with "linguistics", it has to do with semantics. Again, if you want to use big words, learn what they MEAN first.
Stop embarrassing yourself and go play in the sandbox where you fit in.

Semantics is part of linguistics professor.
So when riders fans say “We only lost to Calgary by 6 points and Calgary didn’t score a touchdown against us” You are conceding Calgary was still the better team because they won right?

Bo and the red supreme – did you actually say the stamps executed their game plan perfectly in the GC?!?!? Is this your first year watching CFL?, time and possession dosnt mean squat, also – the season starts after labour day.. building momentum before the playoffs is massive, Argos won, Argos won… also, Argos may have had 2 x 1 in a million plays that game! CHOKE CHOKE CHOKE – 2 years in a row?

Yes, that’s what I’m saying doubleblue. Calgary had the ball 36 minutes and Toronto only 23. That is huge and Calgary should have won.
Face facts, if the Argos don’t recover that fumble AND run it back, The stamps win that game. It was a lucky play.

An interception is a one in a million play? Some games there are several. Even a fumble happens a couple of times per game. So, even if you’re saying that those two plays won or lost the Grey Cup, those kinds of plays happen (total) probably 5-6 times per game. There’s maybe 100 plays per game, so what you’re saying is that the difference is a 1 in 20 play. Not 1 in a million.

But it didn’t work perfectly. The Stamps were only up by 8 with five minutes left. In a boxer-puncher fight, it’s the boxer’s job to make sure the puncher doesn’t get his chance to punch, the Stampeders failed to take luck out of the game and the Argos were holding on to take advantage of it. And then with three minutes left in the game, the Argos pulled off their game winning drive, the Stamps failed theirs.

Ok… you can’t talk, 3 grey cups in 18 years is not that good buddy. I don’t know how you can think that is an accomplishment. Sure it is better than the ticats.Man do I have to tell you how to brag! Argo fan incompetency! Brag about how the Argos have the most tittles won in total. There my friend I have helped you out. Your welcome and so is your incompetency.

Wow, the 1971 game. Sure got me with that one, ouch!!!
Do the years 1983, 1991, 1996, 1997, 2004, 2012 and 2017 mean anything to you. The Argos do what? Hmmm, sure doesn’t look that way in comparison to the Kitty Cats. 1971, classic. Good job protecting that losing Tiger-Cat brand!!!

Wow, you really know how to hurt a guy. Go right for the jugular with a 1971 Grey Cup and an Eastern Final. Ya got me, I’m sure I’d trade 1983, 1991, 1996,1997, 2004, 2012 & the oh so enjoyable 2017 if we could just get back the 1971 Grey Cup and an Eastern Final. The funny part is, I can just imagine you walking around Hamilton with your 1986 Eastern Final tshirt. Got any other gems for me. Thus far, they’ve been hilarious. Congrats again on 1999. What’s that the Argos do??? Oh, thanks for the space filler LOL. Gives your point a lot more credibility.

Always funny to see fans on 3 down nation criticize the ability of CFL players.
I’m sure your football resume is MUCH deeper.
Curious, anybody on the Kitty Cats not able to stick on an NFL roster.
Double standard? Naw, couldn’t be.
2017 GREY CUP CHAMPIONS – TORONTO ARGONAUTS!!!

Always funny to hear some arrogant comment from some “fan” caught in the moment. I’m not a football player, Einstein, nor have I ever professed to be one. But that doesn’t men I am not allowed to have an “opinion”. As far as the “Kitty Cats” go…least they can draw more fans than a night at the Bingo.

Of course you can have an opinion and of course it can be wrong.
Marcus Ball has a talent few have. Not a lot of jobs in the football world. As I said previously, the Tiger Cats roster is full of players not able to crack an NFL roster. That isn’t a problem however because the CFL is still a great game.
Interesting how the fall back position is always the attendance.
I’ve congratulated the Cats fans on many occasions for supporting their franchise. However, the 17 Argo Grey Cups were won on the field, not in the stands.

“LOL! Marcus to join the ranks of Lucille very soon as a trivia question. LOL!”
Always find the adding of LOL’s really makes a point. Great for filling up space. Hilarious.
Yes, the trivia question will relate to the two if not additional Grey Cups he will win with the Argos.
The answer to the question regarding how many Grey Cups the Cats have won this century – ZERO, NIL, NOTHING!!! The Argos do what??? The gift that keeps on giving.

I’d actually fill more “LOL’s” in there because you make me laugh so hard…but I’ll restrict myself to just one per comment. If Marcus wins 2 more GC’s as an Argo, well good for him. It’s always nice to dream big…too bad it’s not always reality.

No, you are the “stupid” one. Note to the second Einstein responding to the comment. I’m NOT a professional football player. Never professed to be one. But I am allowed to have an OPINION. Look up the definition of “OPINION” in Websters…if you know how to read. By the way, what does your CFL moniker stand for, Certified Fool Legit?

Of course you can have an opinion Phil. Like most “football experts”, you don’t think your comment through before posting.
You don’t seem to realize that by taking a shot at Ball’s ability and not being able to crack the 49er’s line up, you’ve taken a shot at the Cats. How many of the current Cats team would be able to make the 49er’s? 2017 Grey Cup Champs – Toronto Argonauts!!!

Oh I “think” them very thoroughly through my friend. Ball’s inability to crack the 49’s, or other NFL team’s lineup has nothing to do with the TC’s, or any other CFL team for that matter. He’s just not GOOD enough. Stick with the issue at hand and don’t try to use some deviation ploy.

Have fun with collaros on your team, if the Argos make a move for him.. we will be happy with 2 bags of footballs… if you only want to give us one bag I guess we will take that for sure. Take the suck up collaros fans with you.

LAST time I checked the 49ers were begging on their hands and knee’s praying for anyone to come. Tbh I think even collaros would make the 49ers. Hahaha, there is a few ticat players in BETTER teams in the NFL. Mabye YOU should think about what you comment before you post.

“Ball just isn’t good enough”!!! How is it a “deviation ploy” to point out that Marcus Ball is playing in the same league as each and every Ti-Cat. Not sure a lot of secrets are being covered up here. I understand your frustration. It must be tough having the good ship argonaut win multiple grey cups. Look on the bright side, you guys have that classy chant. That’s gotta count for something.

I’m not frustrated at all. You win, you lose…it is what it is. You clearly have an inflated opinion about your team and as an Argonaut supporter, good for you. Just don’t forget to bring a couple of card board cut outs resembling fans with you at the next home game so that you can create the filled stadium illusion…or perhaps in your case, delusion? Good New Year to you.

Inflated opinion of the Good Ship Argonaut? Not at all, they tend to win more Grey Cups than most (contrary to what those in Hamilton believe). Didn’t take you long to get back to the attendance. I guess 1971, the 1986 eastern final and that classy chant just weren’t getting it done. Happy New Year to you as well.
In all seriousness, Hamilton should be very proud of it’s support of the Tiger Cats. When people claim that no one in the east supports the CFL, I always point out what great support both Hamilton and Ottawa fans provide. I think the complete MLSE ownership will help the Argos moving forward.

A guy who wins a championship and then he has to go out and rip a guy trying to resurrect his career ? ….
sounds like an insecure ( for whatever reason ) guy and then a collection of insecure moron Argo fans with their “attaboy Marcus say it like it is !”…..
geez get a life kids…

Ok you need Jesus.. you have Argophobia, this phobia only effects grown idiots who think that their team is good because of one bad throw and a old bald guy. Good Luck to your team next year if Ray retires… your’re gonna need it.

No, I think the Argos are good because of 1983, 1991, 1996, 1997. 2004, 2012 and 2017. Just sorry we missed out on the 1999 season. Who won that year? I think the team will just be fine next year. Good GM’s think ahead. By the way, I think Zach would look just fine back in Double Blue!!!

” there is a few ticat players in BETTER teams in the NFL. Mabye YOU should think about what you comment before you post.

Wow, you guys really have a tough time with comprehension with this one. You claim Ball isn’t talented enough to stick with an NFL squad. Fair enough. Just like each and EVERY current Tiger-Cat. Hope it sinks in this time. Not that difficult to put the puzzle pieces together.

Wow, I just read all the comments and it is apparent that non of you have lives. This useless back and forth banter reconfirms why I should not read these comments as it is a waste of valuable time. Grow up kids!

Of course I have, but I think you missed the point. By criticizing Ball for not lasting more than a couple of season in the NFL, you might as well be criticizing each and every player on the Ti-Cats not capable of making an NFL roster. Can’t have it both ways.

Oh, I’m enjoying the grey cup win on MANY levels. First, the team I’ve followed for many decades has won it’s 17th Grey Cup. Second, it’s driving the “NFL in Toronto crowd” absolutely bonkers. Third, the rest of the league is in a frenzy. Just loving the excuses from the stamps followers. What a great off season. So looking forward to 2018 under the full MLSE management. Aiming for 18 in 2018!!!
Hmmm, the Argos did beat the Riders, the Argos did beat the Stamps, and that would make them the 2017 GREY CUP CHAMPIONS – Toronto Argonauts!!!

Hmmm, the Argos did beat the Riders, the Argos did beat the Stamps, and that would make them the 2017 GREY CUP CHAMPIONS – Toronto Argonauts!!!

Well, If you use the same ‘logic’ as our resident troll. That moron thinks the Stumps should be awarded the GC because they won some of the stats lines such as Time of Possession but lost the game on a “1 in a million play.” A fumble in a football game is not one in a million btw, and you often hear that there are usually 3-5 critical plays in a game that determine the outcome, but I digress. I do not care if a team gets outplayed for 50 minutes and 59 seconds but loses on a 1 in a 100 million play, THEY FREAKIN LOST…PERIOD. My Lions have lost many games iike that over their 64 years, and yes, they hurt but you LOST. You suck it up and accept that you lost. He on the other hand brags when they win and thinks they should be given points for losing too. Unreal. Sometimes I believe he is saying that crap to stir things up (childish) because you have to wonder if someone really can be that dense (should be on meds in an institution).

I don’t think Calgary should be handed the Grey Cup.
While a fumble in a football game is not a 1 in a million play. One that is picked up on ones goal line and run back 110 yards for a TD certainly is!
The saying football comes down to 3-5 plays is BS. Those supposed 3-5 plays are a result of an overall trend in a ball game. Games the type of turnover witnessed in Grey Cup 105 types are NOT typical.

“O sorry you have so many crappy players that I forgot which played what”. No, far more likely you don’t understand the positions on the field, far more likely. All those crappy players, getting ready for rings.

Make that 59 minutes and 59 seconds. A win is a win is a win.
If that makes you unhappy, be unhappy with YOUR team for outplaying the other guys but not being good enough to outSCORE them.

DO you know how many times the Edmonton Oilers have done that this year? You don’t hear me bellyaching that they are the best because they outplayed the other team most of the game but could not finish. Doesn’t’t work that way in sports or life Bunky.

LOL, the funniest part is when he tells you that his stumps executed their game plan perfectly.
SO from that you can gather that they PLANNED to fumble the ball late in the game and Planned to not score on their last drive. How words, not mine LOL.
What an embarrassment to his own people.

2017 GREY CUP CHAMPION – TORONTO ARGONAUTS!!! I wonder if “even” will be getting a ring? You really are the gift that keeps on giving. Each comment you post brings a new laugh. Curious “football fan” – how many NFL games have you attended this year (madden doesn’t count)? I’ve been to two. Wow, the CFL guy attending more games than Mr. Boardroom – wow, amazing stuff.
How’s that Toronto NFL franchise coming along? Ouch!!!

Jason is one of the “football experts” that always struggles to answer question like yours. In his mind, the league is useless, but somehow takes the time to comment on articles. But lets be careful, Jason will remind you numerous times that he has an important job that even involves a boardroom. He will also tell you time and time again that he has won.

“It’s a league where even gets a participation ribbon like when you are 5”.
What team does even play for? This is the time where you need to reread your comments dozens of times to save the embarrassment of numerous spelling mistakes. Last time we chanted you couldn’t control your anger and every second word was a mess.

Hmmm…TfC may have a point…I mean, personally, I “chat” with people…not “chant”. Dr. Philski suggests (this one free of charge – on the house) perhaps if you try talking with people instead of trying to get them to sing along with you then you won’t piss them off..like the a/n Jason? Try it. LMK what happens.

I have no, zero interest. Therefore I do not go on NBA boards and troll them. I have NEVER been on a board that has ANYTHING to do with an NBA team or the league in general. SO… the part I do not get is, IF the CFL is so bad and the NFL so great, Why are you here? LOL. Get a life bud.

Jason is bitter, very bitter that the Argos are 2017 Grey Cup Champions.
His knowledge of football on either side of the border is nil.
His claim to fame is bad spelling and a job that involves a boardroom.
I think the second part is supposed to impress us.
I’ve dealt with this clown previously.

Just ask Jason, he’ll tell you how great he is. Of course, don’t ask him a football question as that isn’t one of his strengths. Notice how he didn’t respond to your comment (was probably in the boardroom making one of his important decisions).

2017 Grey Cup Champions – Toronto Argonauts!!! Still bugging you which makes this off season oh so sweet.
It’s Sunday today, will you be getting together in the boardroom with your friend to discuss the NFL coming to Toronto? The gift that keeps on giving.
“I wonder how many messages will be written about me when i leave”? I trust you aren’t aware of the class clown story, are you Jason? Look it up, you might (but probably won’t) learn something.

Good on Marcus Ball as all those fawning over this out of shape idiot do a disservice to players who work hard all year to showcase their skills versus showing their beer gut on the beach like Manziel.

June Jones dissing the CFL by saying this guy will be the best player ever to come to the CFO is a disgrace and a sure sign he’s at risk of blowing his credibility with his players, fans and pretty much anybody with eyesight and Google checker.

” I’ll pop in to stir the pot again in the future”. Wow, three days Jason. Well done. Also good work, I didn’t find any spelling mistakes.
If you spent more time learning the game and less with the “beat” and “loser”, you might not embarrass yourself so often. How’s that NFL team coming along. Any decisions from the boardroom?

Don’t worry about it Jason G. Gmen32 appears to be suffering an acute case of Argo-phobia. It’s kind of like the “little man syndrome” when you always have to keep proving yourself over and over again, or in his case, reminding anyone outside the GTA (who don’t really give a SHI* to begin with) that his team got lucky and won a trophy. Next season when his team fades into oblivion you won’t hear a peep from him – guaranteed. If anything he at least provides humour and entertainment so let’s not discourage him.

Interesting thought process Philski.
” that his team got lucky and won a trophy”. Man, those Argos are one lucky franchise (83, 91, 96, 97, 04, 12, 17).
Considering you’re an expert on how to label someone, perhaps you could get out of the last century along with the Kitty Cats.
1971? 1986? Seriously? It’s now 2017!!! At least party like it’s 1999.
How’s that spelling / grammar check going?
Meeting with Jason is in the boardroom at 10:30.

Well, shiver me timbers…more chirping! Well gspot at least I don’t use “white out” after I’ve posted a comment to correct an OBVIOUS grammar error – you KNOW what I mean. Either that or you are a relative of Doug Henning…poof, it just disappears! But hey, if the editor grants your request, all the power to you. Typical Toronto wimp…all blowhard and no accountability. Oh yeah…and just for you…a big fat sloppy “LOL”!

No Philski, not sure what you mean about the grammar error, but I know you’ll keep trying to catch me. Hamilton education at it’s best!!! Perhaps you can complain to the commissioner of 3down nation. Isn’t that what the Kitty Cats do? Everybody is against us, the refs hate us.
2017 Grey Cup Champions – Toronto Argonauts!!!
What is it again the Argos do?

Bo and the red supremes LOL If. If, If…If my aunt had balls she’s be my uncle. Calgary had the ball for more time because Argos just took less time to score. It doesn’t take up much time when you are going 100 yrds + on 1 play. LOL ARGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS