What type or riding will you be doing. I have the venge now and its a great bike for what it was made for. I've had the tarmac as well and did find it better when the road goes up. The Sl4 is quicker but when you get the venge up to speed it feels faster. I like to sprint and race so venge was the bike. Both are great bike for different styles or riding and yes you can win on either of them.

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