"Disbanding the team would be a false-economy. Safe roads are essential for healthy, active, happy communities. These teams not only help make our roads safer, they’re also a cost effective investment for local authorities.

“Investment in road safety helps to prevent crashes and casualties, which devastate families and place a costly burden on health and emergency services. This investment helps ensure people can walk, cycle and live active lifestyles without being endangered.”

The team currently has 3.5 staff to cover road safety commitments for the whole city and they provide services such as pedestrian training in schools.

The situation is to be examined by councillors at a scrutiny hearing at Bradford Council tomorrow, with a report recommending the council restores a long-term funding commitment to the group.

Numbers of pedestrians, car occupants and motorcyclists who became road casualties has decreased from 2002 to 2012 in the city, though numbers of cyclists who become casualties has increased slightly.

Figures show that inner city areas are the locations where people are most likely to be injured or killed on the roads.

Government statistics back that up, showing areas of deprivation have a worse record for road safety, with children up to 20 times more likely to be hurt or killed in the areas with the worst track records, compared to the best.

It is believed that discrepancy is partly due to higher traffic density in inner city areas, poorer child supervision and fewer opportunities for children to play outside in a safe environment.

Comments

angry bradfordian
5:37pm Mon 28 Jul 14

RomeoTango wrote…

hx3bantam wrote…

Just pay for it all out of the money that video van on Mayo Avenue is generating, in the interests of Road Safety of course! One van parked up all day and it must earn them hundreds of thousands! Where's all that money going?

The camera safety van is just where it needs to be. Two fatal collisions in the last 4 years all in the vicinity of Morrisons.
The T&A reported the following...
Three men have been questioned after a speeding car was in collision with a woman pedestrian, throwing her several yards through the air.

The 34-year-old suffered head injuries and died at the scene.

She was crossing Mayo Avenue, Bradford, near the pelican crossing outside Morrisons, when she was hit by a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.

Witnesses estimated the powerful car to be travelling at up to 80mph on the busy dual carriageway leading from the M606 to Manchester Road.

One motorist, who was travelling on the opposite carriageway at the time, said: “I saw someone in the air. At first it looked like a black bin bag, or a big piece of cardboard, then I realised it was a person wearing black.

“She was flung about 15 metres down the road.

“The car was travelling at an horrendous speed. The windscreen was smashed. I could see at least two young men in the car, the driver had his head in his hands.

“There was blood everywhere, she was clearly badly injured.

I seem to remember there was a conviction at Bradford Crown Court for the driver.

2 issues in that article that show why the safety team are fighting a losing battle:
a) a grown woman was crossing NEAR a pelican crossing. No number of new crossings will help when people won't walk an extra 20 yards to use them. I'm amazed at the number of parents I see doing this with their kids being dragged behind them.
b) The morons would still have been doing 80mph, but slowed down at the camera van, then sped up again. Unless the police deploy more unmarked cars, no amount of camera vans will pick up on dangerous driving.

[quote][p][bold]RomeoTango[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]hx3bantam[/bold] wrote:
Just pay for it all out of the money that video van on Mayo Avenue is generating, in the interests of Road Safety of course! One van parked up all day and it must earn them hundreds of thousands! Where's all that money going?[/p][/quote]The camera safety van is just where it needs to be. Two fatal collisions in the last 4 years all in the vicinity of Morrisons.
The T&A reported the following...
Three men have been questioned after a speeding car was in collision with a woman pedestrian, throwing her several yards through the air.
The 34-year-old suffered head injuries and died at the scene.
She was crossing Mayo Avenue, Bradford, near the pelican crossing outside Morrisons, when she was hit by a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.
Witnesses estimated the powerful car to be travelling at up to 80mph on the busy dual carriageway leading from the M606 to Manchester Road.
One motorist, who was travelling on the opposite carriageway at the time, said: “I saw someone in the air. At first it looked like a black bin bag, or a big piece of cardboard, then I realised it was a person wearing black.
“She was flung about 15 metres down the road.
“The car was travelling at an horrendous speed. The windscreen was smashed. I could see at least two young men in the car, the driver had his head in his hands.
“There was blood everywhere, she was clearly badly injured.
I seem to remember there was a conviction at Bradford Crown Court for the driver.[/p][/quote]2 issues in that article that show why the safety team are fighting a losing battle:
a) a grown woman was crossing NEAR a pelican crossing. No number of new crossings will help when people won't walk an extra 20 yards to use them. I'm amazed at the number of parents I see doing this with their kids being dragged behind them.
b) The morons would still have been doing 80mph, but slowed down at the camera van, then sped up again. Unless the police deploy more unmarked cars, no amount of camera vans will pick up on dangerous driving.angry bradfordian

RomeoTango wrote…

hx3bantam wrote…

Just pay for it all out of the money that video van on Mayo Avenue is generating, in the interests of Road Safety of course! One van parked up all day and it must earn them hundreds of thousands! Where's all that money going?

The camera safety van is just where it needs to be. Two fatal collisions in the last 4 years all in the vicinity of Morrisons.
The T&A reported the following...
Three men have been questioned after a speeding car was in collision with a woman pedestrian, throwing her several yards through the air.

The 34-year-old suffered head injuries and died at the scene.

She was crossing Mayo Avenue, Bradford, near the pelican crossing outside Morrisons, when she was hit by a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.

Witnesses estimated the powerful car to be travelling at up to 80mph on the busy dual carriageway leading from the M606 to Manchester Road.

One motorist, who was travelling on the opposite carriageway at the time, said: “I saw someone in the air. At first it looked like a black bin bag, or a big piece of cardboard, then I realised it was a person wearing black.

“She was flung about 15 metres down the road.

“The car was travelling at an horrendous speed. The windscreen was smashed. I could see at least two young men in the car, the driver had his head in his hands.

“There was blood everywhere, she was clearly badly injured.

I seem to remember there was a conviction at Bradford Crown Court for the driver.

2 issues in that article that show why the safety team are fighting a losing battle:
a) a grown woman was crossing NEAR a pelican crossing. No number of new crossings will help when people won't walk an extra 20 yards to use them. I'm amazed at the number of parents I see doing this with their kids being dragged behind them.
b) The morons would still have been doing 80mph, but slowed down at the camera van, then sped up again. Unless the police deploy more unmarked cars, no amount of camera vans will pick up on dangerous driving.

Score: 6

G_Firth
9:51am Mon 28 Jul 14

So much for being part of WYCA hay Mr Green
Wasn't this supposed to actually increase funding for the region.
Ho wait I forgot central government have scuppered that little plan by no allowing WYCA to place a levy upon council tax.

So much for being part of WYCA hay Mr Green
Wasn't this supposed to actually increase funding for the region.
Ho wait I forgot central government have scuppered that little plan by no allowing WYCA to place a levy upon council tax.G_Firth

So much for being part of WYCA hay Mr Green
Wasn't this supposed to actually increase funding for the region.
Ho wait I forgot central government have scuppered that little plan by no allowing WYCA to place a levy upon council tax.

Score: 5

tinytoonster
10:54am Mon 28 Jul 14

this is the the type of deadwood we need to cull.
green cross code, there you go.
safety done!!

this is the the type of deadwood we need to cull.
green cross code, there you go.
safety done!!tinytoonster

this is the the type of deadwood we need to cull.
green cross code, there you go.
safety done!!

Score: 10

angry bradfordian
11:58am Mon 28 Jul 14

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I remember that the 'high profile crash' pictured as an example above was caused by a medical episode, so I'm not sure what the road safety team could have done to prevent it.

Similarly if they acknowledge that a lot of accidents are down to 'poorer child supervision' then I can't see how they can stop those type of accidents.
At the weekend I saw a poor kid who couldn't have been older than 4 trying to cross Manchester Rd alone. Unless the council want to put the speed limit down to 5 mph they'll never stop accidents happening regardless of the resources they throw at it.
It should be social services and not engineers dealing with this sort of problem.

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I remember that the 'high profile crash' pictured as an example above was caused by a medical episode, so I'm not sure what the road safety team could have done to prevent it.
Similarly if they acknowledge that a lot of accidents are down to 'poorer child supervision' then I can't see how they can stop those type of accidents.
At the weekend I saw a poor kid who couldn't have been older than 4 trying to cross Manchester Rd alone. Unless the council want to put the speed limit down to 5 mph they'll never stop accidents happening regardless of the resources they throw at it.
It should be social services and not engineers dealing with this sort of problem.angry bradfordian

I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure I remember that the 'high profile crash' pictured as an example above was caused by a medical episode, so I'm not sure what the road safety team could have done to prevent it.

Similarly if they acknowledge that a lot of accidents are down to 'poorer child supervision' then I can't see how they can stop those type of accidents.
At the weekend I saw a poor kid who couldn't have been older than 4 trying to cross Manchester Rd alone. Unless the council want to put the speed limit down to 5 mph they'll never stop accidents happening regardless of the resources they throw at it.
It should be social services and not engineers dealing with this sort of problem.

Score: 16

Papa Smurfs Wig
1:49pm Mon 28 Jul 14

The more they save, the more Palestinian flags they can buy!

The more they save, the more Palestinian flags they can buy!Papa Smurfs Wig

The more they save, the more Palestinian flags they can buy!

Score: 9

Class_War
5:25pm Mon 28 Jul 14

On another subject, I'd just like to say what a particularly nasty piece of work Philip Davies is. Utter scum.

On another subject, I'd just like to say what a particularly nasty piece of work Philip Davies is. Utter scum.Class_War

On another subject, I'd just like to say what a particularly nasty piece of work Philip Davies is. Utter scum.

Score: -3

hx3bantam
3:44pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Just pay for it all out of the money that video van on Mayo Avenue is generating, in the interests of Road Safety of course! One van parked up all day and it must earn them hundreds of thousands! Where's all that money going?

Just pay for it all out of the money that video van on Mayo Avenue is generating, in the interests of Road Safety of course! One van parked up all day and it must earn them hundreds of thousands! Where's all that money going?hx3bantam

Just pay for it all out of the money that video van on Mayo Avenue is generating, in the interests of Road Safety of course! One van parked up all day and it must earn them hundreds of thousands! Where's all that money going?

Score: 3

RomeoTango
5:30pm Mon 28 Jul 14

hx3bantam wrote…

Just pay for it all out of the money that video van on Mayo Avenue is generating, in the interests of Road Safety of course! One van parked up all day and it must earn them hundreds of thousands! Where's all that money going?

The camera safety van is just where it needs to be. Two fatal collisions in the last 4 years all in the vicinity of Morrisons.
The T&A reported the following...
Three men have been questioned after a speeding car was in collision with a woman pedestrian, throwing her several yards through the air.

The 34-year-old suffered head injuries and died at the scene.

She was crossing Mayo Avenue, Bradford, near the pelican crossing outside Morrisons, when she was hit by a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.

Witnesses estimated the powerful car to be travelling at up to 80mph on the busy dual carriageway leading from the M606 to Manchester Road.

One motorist, who was travelling on the opposite carriageway at the time, said: “I saw someone in the air. At first it looked like a black bin bag, or a big piece of cardboard, then I realised it was a person wearing black.

“She was flung about 15 metres down the road.

“The car was travelling at an horrendous speed. The windscreen was smashed. I could see at least two young men in the car, the driver had his head in his hands.

“There was blood everywhere, she was clearly badly injured.

I seem to remember there was a conviction at Bradford Crown Court for the driver.

[quote][p][bold]hx3bantam[/bold] wrote:
Just pay for it all out of the money that video van on Mayo Avenue is generating, in the interests of Road Safety of course! One van parked up all day and it must earn them hundreds of thousands! Where's all that money going?[/p][/quote]The camera safety van is just where it needs to be. Two fatal collisions in the last 4 years all in the vicinity of Morrisons.
The T&A reported the following...
Three men have been questioned after a speeding car was in collision with a woman pedestrian, throwing her several yards through the air.
The 34-year-old suffered head injuries and died at the scene.
She was crossing Mayo Avenue, Bradford, near the pelican crossing outside Morrisons, when she was hit by a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.
Witnesses estimated the powerful car to be travelling at up to 80mph on the busy dual carriageway leading from the M606 to Manchester Road.
One motorist, who was travelling on the opposite carriageway at the time, said: “I saw someone in the air. At first it looked like a black bin bag, or a big piece of cardboard, then I realised it was a person wearing black.
“She was flung about 15 metres down the road.
“The car was travelling at an horrendous speed. The windscreen was smashed. I could see at least two young men in the car, the driver had his head in his hands.
“There was blood everywhere, she was clearly badly injured.
I seem to remember there was a conviction at Bradford Crown Court for the driver.RomeoTango

hx3bantam wrote…

Just pay for it all out of the money that video van on Mayo Avenue is generating, in the interests of Road Safety of course! One van parked up all day and it must earn them hundreds of thousands! Where's all that money going?

The camera safety van is just where it needs to be. Two fatal collisions in the last 4 years all in the vicinity of Morrisons.
The T&A reported the following...
Three men have been questioned after a speeding car was in collision with a woman pedestrian, throwing her several yards through the air.

The 34-year-old suffered head injuries and died at the scene.

She was crossing Mayo Avenue, Bradford, near the pelican crossing outside Morrisons, when she was hit by a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.

Witnesses estimated the powerful car to be travelling at up to 80mph on the busy dual carriageway leading from the M606 to Manchester Road.

One motorist, who was travelling on the opposite carriageway at the time, said: “I saw someone in the air. At first it looked like a black bin bag, or a big piece of cardboard, then I realised it was a person wearing black.

“She was flung about 15 metres down the road.

“The car was travelling at an horrendous speed. The windscreen was smashed. I could see at least two young men in the car, the driver had his head in his hands.

“There was blood everywhere, she was clearly badly injured.

I seem to remember there was a conviction at Bradford Crown Court for the driver.

Score: 3

36a
9:51pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Good, I agree cut the Road Safety Team, in fact disband it I say
Less speed bumps, less "traffic calming", less 20 zones, less "casualty reduction" vans, less speed cameras.
Let common sense and judgement prevail. When conditions are bad, or busy then drive with more care, that may or may not be slower. 20 is NOT an appropriate speed limit outside a school at 1am in the morning, or when they are on holiday

Good, I agree cut the Road Safety Team, in fact disband it I say
Less speed bumps, less "traffic calming", less 20 zones, less "casualty reduction" vans, less speed cameras.
Let common sense and judgement prevail. When conditions are bad, or busy then drive with more care, that may or may not be slower. 20 is NOT an appropriate speed limit outside a school at 1am in the morning, or when they are on holiday36a

Good, I agree cut the Road Safety Team, in fact disband it I say
Less speed bumps, less "traffic calming", less 20 zones, less "casualty reduction" vans, less speed cameras.
Let common sense and judgement prevail. When conditions are bad, or busy then drive with more care, that may or may not be slower. 20 is NOT an appropriate speed limit outside a school at 1am in the morning, or when they are on holiday

Score: 3

tinytoonster
10:18pm Mon 28 Jul 14

RomeoTango wrote…

hx3bantam wrote…

Just pay for it all out of the money that video van on Mayo Avenue is generating, in the interests of Road Safety of course! One van parked up all day and it must earn them hundreds of thousands! Where's all that money going?

The camera safety van is just where it needs to be. Two fatal collisions in the last 4 years all in the vicinity of Morrisons.
The T&A reported the following...
Three men have been questioned after a speeding car was in collision with a woman pedestrian, throwing her several yards through the air.

The 34-year-old suffered head injuries and died at the scene.

She was crossing Mayo Avenue, Bradford, near the pelican crossing outside Morrisons, when she was hit by a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.

Witnesses estimated the powerful car to be travelling at up to 80mph on the busy dual carriageway leading from the M606 to Manchester Road.

One motorist, who was travelling on the opposite carriageway at the time, said: “I saw someone in the air. At first it looked like a black bin bag, or a big piece of cardboard, then I realised it was a person wearing black.

“She was flung about 15 metres down the road.

“The car was travelling at an horrendous speed. The windscreen was smashed. I could see at least two young men in the car, the driver had his head in his hands.

“There was blood everywhere, she was clearly badly injured.

I seem to remember there was a conviction at Bradford Crown Court for the driver.

yes but morons are morons regardless of cameras!
dual carriageway, should be 40mph for us normal drivers!

[quote][p][bold]RomeoTango[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]hx3bantam[/bold] wrote:
Just pay for it all out of the money that video van on Mayo Avenue is generating, in the interests of Road Safety of course! One van parked up all day and it must earn them hundreds of thousands! Where's all that money going?[/p][/quote]The camera safety van is just where it needs to be. Two fatal collisions in the last 4 years all in the vicinity of Morrisons.
The T&A reported the following...
Three men have been questioned after a speeding car was in collision with a woman pedestrian, throwing her several yards through the air.
The 34-year-old suffered head injuries and died at the scene.
She was crossing Mayo Avenue, Bradford, near the pelican crossing outside Morrisons, when she was hit by a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.
Witnesses estimated the powerful car to be travelling at up to 80mph on the busy dual carriageway leading from the M606 to Manchester Road.
One motorist, who was travelling on the opposite carriageway at the time, said: “I saw someone in the air. At first it looked like a black bin bag, or a big piece of cardboard, then I realised it was a person wearing black.
“She was flung about 15 metres down the road.
“The car was travelling at an horrendous speed. The windscreen was smashed. I could see at least two young men in the car, the driver had his head in his hands.
“There was blood everywhere, she was clearly badly injured.
I seem to remember there was a conviction at Bradford Crown Court for the driver.[/p][/quote]yes but morons are morons regardless of cameras!
dual carriageway, should be 40mph for us normal drivers!tinytoonster

RomeoTango wrote…

hx3bantam wrote…

Just pay for it all out of the money that video van on Mayo Avenue is generating, in the interests of Road Safety of course! One van parked up all day and it must earn them hundreds of thousands! Where's all that money going?

The camera safety van is just where it needs to be. Two fatal collisions in the last 4 years all in the vicinity of Morrisons.
The T&A reported the following...
Three men have been questioned after a speeding car was in collision with a woman pedestrian, throwing her several yards through the air.

The 34-year-old suffered head injuries and died at the scene.

She was crossing Mayo Avenue, Bradford, near the pelican crossing outside Morrisons, when she was hit by a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution.

Witnesses estimated the powerful car to be travelling at up to 80mph on the busy dual carriageway leading from the M606 to Manchester Road.

One motorist, who was travelling on the opposite carriageway at the time, said: “I saw someone in the air. At first it looked like a black bin bag, or a big piece of cardboard, then I realised it was a person wearing black.

“She was flung about 15 metres down the road.

“The car was travelling at an horrendous speed. The windscreen was smashed. I could see at least two young men in the car, the driver had his head in his hands.

“There was blood everywhere, she was clearly badly injured.

I seem to remember there was a conviction at Bradford Crown Court for the driver.

yes but morons are morons regardless of cameras!
dual carriageway, should be 40mph for us normal drivers!

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