manfred wrote:Well I am not sure if God interferes in a lot of elections, but Trump has won, which to me and many here came as something of a surprise.

What people say in campaigns and what they do in office are always two different things. He has a mandate to curb the influence Islam in the US which hopefully he will attempt to do.

Hasn't he tried to do that?

One the other hand he is not much of a friend of Israel, and I hope when it comes to the middle East he will learn from past mistakes and mind his own business. I am worried about how he may react should there be a terror attack in the US....

Really Manfred? hasn't he shown that? do you even read the papers or watch the news?

manfred wrote:Possibly. But then again, if you look at other "leaders" around the world, it seems that is a qualification needed for the job.

[/quote]Not necessarily. Show me any rational person interviews on camera, then when reported he call it fake news?[/quote1. They published a document that said he hired prostitutes to pee on a bed. It was quetionable and unverifiable, and the news organization said, "We want people to read it and decide for themselves." How is that remotely fair. He had every right to call them fake news.

He didn't use word radical Islam. He doesn't name the enemy I.e. Wahabism. It was all about hisbullah, Shias and Iran. We all on this forum know very well that they all are terrorists.

I like the most " TERRORISTS have no religion" Trump in Arabia.

Whether it's Obama, Bush or Trump they work for big arms dealers and manufacturers. At the flip of coin they all advocated or this guy will advocate sending multitude of ground forces.. Selling arms won't create jobs in Ohio or Pennsylvania or Michigan. Any kind of military hardware sale creates very few new jobs. Of course military contractors will love any direct involvement.

glitch wrote:1. They published a document that said he hired prostitutes to pee on a bed. It was quetionable and unverifiable, and the news organization said, "We want people to read it and decide for themselves." How is that remotely fair. He had every right to call them fake news.

Are you for real? Was his accusation of Obama wire tap his phone, or question Obama's birth place were "verified"? No they were was not.

This idiot stands in front of dozens of reporters, with live video recording every word he utters. Caught lying (size of crowed, or electoral collages) then he call them "fake news". Funny when reports are complimentary to him - he does not call them fake.

Reporters may lie - video camera & microphones don't lie.

All his life is Bollshited him way up the ladder. Now his BS is not working, and he sure does not like it. It is time for you to ask yourself whether you are under Trump's cult spell or not - I bet you are, and not even aware of it.

Trump was not bowing to the King out of respect. He was lowering his head to enable the Medal of Honour to be placed over his head. The photograph below the one of Trump simple shows Obama bowing out of respect. Am I correct in this or was Obama receiving an award in this photograph? The photograph on the right of this shows Obama, on a different occasion, bowing solely to enable his award to be placed over his head. I think that you are deceiving yourself to think that Trump was bowing out of respect.

It was the King who was showing great respect for the Trumps when he shook hands with Trump`s wife. It is virtually unheard of for a man, never mind the King of SA, to shake hands with a woman, especially in the KSA. The King broke an Islamic taboo to please the Trumps..

Hombre wrote:Are you for real? Was his accusation of Obama wire tap his phone, or question Obama's birth place were "verified"? No they were was not.

Just like the left, get hung up on the word wiretap. Trump was under serveilance by Obama, that's pretty clear, now why don't you get hung up on the word wiretap a little bit more. He was in office about 50 days and had access as president and yeah, he was surveilled by obama... you done?

Secondly your beloved Hillary Clinton started the birthplacee problem-obama, the king of tries and slapping isreal in the face, made it difficult as hell to verify anything and then after months of searching release a questionable document which was artifically constructed.. whether it was true or not your golden boy was 0 percent effective on every level. Lastly, once again we're not taling abou Obama we're tlking about a destructive liberal news media who published a false document with 0 credibility, but they proved it for 8 year by kissing Obama's a$$ everytime he took a dump. they softballed his questions and they gave hillary clinton the same treatment.

This idiot stands in front of dozens of reporters, with live video recording every word he utters. Caught lying (size of crowed, or electoral collages) then he call them "fake news". Funny when reports are complimentary to him - he does not call them fake.

i could give two robins egg for the size of his innauguration.. and no, they recast all electorial votes and the amount stayed the same, so thre's no lie there, and if all you have to go on is he bragged thre were bigger numbers at his innauguartion, GROW UP.

All his life is Bollshited him way up the ladder. Now his BS is not working, and he sure does not like it. It is time for you to ask yourself whether you are under Trump's cult spell or not - I bet you are, and not even aware of it.

excuse me? he appointed someone incruedible to the supreme court. He has jobs numbers up. He has removed the red tape that Obana gunkd the system up. All youve ever said is hes a liar. The numbers don't lie. His effects aren't lies. The lame media has rarely talked of his successes, just like you didn't answer any of my post, i asked you to prove your BS and you fell back on Innuguaration, wiretapping and electorial votes. againm you didnt deal with any of my points just like a muslim...

a) Trump's claim about election results.Had you listed to the press conference, where Trump bragged that "he won by widest electoral margin since Nixon". NBC corespondent shot back, with "that not true. Obama won by wider margin". Trump replied "I meant any REPUBLICAN president". which immediately was rebuked by the fact GHW also won by wider margin. At that moment Trump replied "I don't know I was given these numbers".

Yeh, tomorrow he will order nuclear strike on Lichtenstein because someone handed him a note, this tiny state is about to attack US with nuks. He is that dumb not to make sure his data correct before he makes a spectacle of himself.

b) Obama & wiretap: First, no president can order any wiretap of any US citizen w/o court order - period. In fact after it was discovered that Flynn, Manaford other members of his election team were involved with Russians up to their eyeballs - add that to Trump's glowing comments about Putin, of course Intelligence community sure had reason to make sure Trump was not involved, and more likely they recommended to the president to authorize surveillance of Trump's campaign - yes that includes Trump himself as well.

d) Trump's leak: Go to the Times Of Israel- a respected Israeli paper and read Marrisa Newman's piece where Israelis were fumed how Trump revealed to Russians Israel ability to intercept Iran & ISIS most secured communication w/o detected. With his loudmouth he compromised Israel & US's ability to gather reliable intelligence on their enemies.Only a fucked-up & ignorant person is dumb enough to not realize that.