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If I am IBM management and I learn that my employees on the executive, strategic or operative levels are dictating memos with Company confidential information inside them using Siri, I would be very very concerned as to where that data goes and who has access to it outside of IBM!

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If I am IBM management and I learn that my employees on the executive, strategic or operative levels are dictating memos with Company confidential information inside them using Siri, I would be very very concerned as to where that data goes and who has access to it outside of IBM!

That's exactly what I think IBM's concern is, that and if you dictate names from your contacts, or schedule something I think everything you dictate will be stored by apple.
And actually Siri is not like big deal for everyone business day, and also IBM is in its right to do what they consider proper to keep security. I know there are some companies that do not even allow cellphones with camera so I think that includes no Siri for them

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That's exactly what I think IBM's concern is, that and if you dictate names from your contacts, or schedule something I think everything you dictate will be stored by apple.
And actually Siri is not like big deal for everyone business day, and also IBM is in its right to do what they consider proper to keep security. I know there are some companies that do not even allow cellphones with camera so I think that includes no Siri for them

Actually, if the Wired and Verge articles are correct, it is much different than Google, because the articles maintain the iPhone also transmits what you say when you use Siri for dictation. If this is in fact the case, then IBM has every right to be concerned -- I would not want my employees dictating business emails and have their contents being stored offsite and out of my control.

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Actually, if the Wired and Verge articles are correct, it is much different than Google, because the articles maintain the iPhone also transmits what you say when you use Siri for dictation. If this is in fact the case, then IBM has every right to be concerned -- I would not want my employees dictating business emails and have their contents being stored offsite and out of my control.

This article is not telling the whole story. I work at IBM and use my own iPhone. For security reasons the phones must be protected with a passcode. The only restriction to Siri usage is the one that specifies "Do not allow access to Siri when locked with a passcode." i.e. you must authenticate with your passcode before Siri can be used. This is to prevent someone who steals/finds your missing phone from using Siri to do things like "Read my emails" and potentially access company confidential information. But I guess this reasonable restriction wouldn't make for nearly as dramatic a soundbite as "IBM bans Siri!"

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This article is not telling the whole story. I work at IBM and use my own iPhone. For security reasons the phones must be protected with a passcode. The only restriction to Siri usage is the one that specifies "Do not allow access to Siri when locked with a passcode." i.e. you must authenticate with your passcode before Siri can be used. This is to prevent someone who steals/finds your missing phone from using Siri to do things like "Read my emails" and potentially access company confidential information. But I guess this reasonable restriction wouldn't make for nearly as dramatic a soundbite as "IBM bans Siri!"

I don't see the point. I'm not downloading company e-mail to my device or synching a company calendar with it. It's my device. I can do whatever the heck I want with it, as it wasn't deployed to me from the company.

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I don't see the point. I'm not downloading company e-mail to my device or synching a company calendar with it. It's my device. I can do whatever the heck I want with it, as it wasn't deployed to me from the company.

It's not much different, except, with Siri, Apple is getting a free pass in the minds of most users.
By now, most users expect that Google (and Bing, and Yahoo) are mining their data when they search, and, even if only in limited, anonymized ways, sharing it with third parties.
Most users do not realize that Apple is doing the same thing with Siri -- collecting user data and sharing with third parties. In some ways, Siri collects potentially more intrusive information, simply because users are granting it contextual information about their lives and relationships.
It is not necessarily any more evil for Apple to do this than for Google, but people simply need to know that Apple is doing this, so they can have all the information to modify their behavior, if it makes them uncomfortable.

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It's not much different, except, with Siri, Apple is getting a free pass in the minds of most users.
By now, most users expect that Google (and Bing, and Yahoo) are mining their data when they search, and, even if only in limited, anonymized ways, sharing it with third parties.
Most users do not realize that Apple is doing the same thing with Siri -- collecting user data and sharing with third parties. In some ways, Siri collects potentially more intrusive information, simply because users are granting it contextual information about their lives and relationships.
It is not necessarily any more evil for Apple to do this than for Google, but people simply need to know that Apple is doing this, so they can have all the information to modify their behavior, if it makes them uncomfortable.

That makes much more sense...Anyone using an iPhone 4s should disable that, anyway...in my opinion.
Laslo - You misunderstand...with Siri, there is a setting to let you use it from the lock screen...without paswword, even when locked. So, it is much more than what you say.

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That makes much more sense...Anyone using an iPhone 4s should disable that, anyway...in my opinion.
Laslo - You misunderstand...with Siri, there is a setting to let you use it from the lock screen...without paswword, even when locked. So, it is much more than what you say.

chill people. this is probably only for BYOD and if you wanted to connect to ibm's email and outlook calendar with your iphone you must have that disabled. it's probably automatically done to your phone by apps like airwatch that a lot of companies that have BYOD policy use.
i don't think a random employee with a personal device with no company data on there would have their iphone taken away in a hallway if someone caught them using Siri.

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chill people. this is probably only for BYOD and if you wanted to connect to ibm's email and outlook calendar with your iphone you must have that disabled. it's probably automatically done to your phone by apps like airwatch that a lot of companies that have BYOD policy use.
i don't think a random employee with a personal device with no company data on there would have their iphone taken away in a hallway if someone caught them using Siri.

I believe this article misses a key aspect of the IBM policy. My understanding is that Siri can be used within IBM, but the feature of using Siri without unlocking the phone must be disabled. Otherwise, if they lost their phone, someone would be able to ask Siri many questions that could display personal and sensitive information (calendar entries, email, contacts) without having to type in a password.

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I believe this article misses a key aspect of the IBM policy. My understanding is that Siri can be used within IBM, but the feature of using Siri without unlocking the phone must be disabled. Otherwise, if they lost their phone, someone would be able to ask Siri many questions that could display personal and sensitive information (calendar entries, email, contacts) without having to type in a password.

Last I checked, IBM wasn't operating any cellular networks, so turn WiFi off and you aren't "operating on any of IBM's Networks" and therefore, your iPhone 4S is operating on your cellular network. Some stupid MBA came up with this crap policy that is easily gotten around. Guess what? You can still text, make phone calls, use the web, and search with Google or Bing and just as vulnerable, so this policy does absolutely nothing to insure any privacy or security. #Idiots at IBM are clueless.

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Last I checked, IBM wasn't operating any cellular networks, so turn WiFi off and you aren't "operating on any of IBM's Networks" and therefore, your iPhone 4S is operating on your cellular network. Some stupid MBA came up with this crap policy that is easily gotten around. Guess what? You can still text, make phone calls, use the web, and search with Google or Bing and just as vulnerable, so this policy does absolutely nothing to insure any privacy or security. #Idiots at IBM are clueless.

This was a stupid decision, because also Samsung galaxy s3 is sending voice commands to Google ! It is just a marketing thing to show that IBM is against Apple. But in my opinion , this is stupid ! Shame on IBM, we always knew that IBM are professionals.

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This was a stupid decision, because also Samsung galaxy s3 is sending voice commands to Google ! It is just a marketing thing to show that IBM is against Apple. But in my opinion , this is stupid ! Shame on IBM, we always knew that IBM are professionals.

quick! where did i leave my tin hat.
yes they collect and store it to help siri learn, but it'll be totally anonymized anyway.
If ibm are worried maybe they should just not ask siri when their secret project is coming out...

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quick! where did i leave my tin hat.
yes they collect and store it to help siri learn, but it'll be totally anonymized anyway.
If ibm are worried maybe they should just not ask siri when their secret project is coming out...