RT @AdamSchefter: Appeal of Seahawks CB Richard Sherman’s four-game suspension is scheduled for Dec. 14, which means he will play Sunday against Arizona.

Also regarding Browner:

RT @AdamSchefter: Still no appeal date set for Seahawks CB Brandon Browner.

ImTheScientist wrote:This guy is the closest thing to beast mode we will ever see. You got a glimpse of that yesterday. He was instantly my favorite player when they signed him. Give the dude a chance and don't overreact or overthink preseason. Go Hawks. Lacy will rush for 1,100 and 10TDs. Bend the knee.

I actually think that Sherman playing this weekend turns out to be very bad news for the Hawks, unless of course the ruling is overturned. I would much rather have him miss the Arizona game than the first playoff game. Actually with it being the 14th (which is a Friday) it probably means he'll be available for the Bills games as well unless they pretty much instantaneously make a ruling and would start his suspension in less than 48 hours after the appeal is heard.

"There is no delay of game. We did not let the team know we were scratching our balls"

IBleedBlueAndGreen wrote:I actually think that Sherman playing this weekend turns out to be very bad news for the Hawks, unless of course the ruling is overturned. I would much rather have him miss the Arizona game than the first playoff game. Actually with it being the 14th (which is a Friday) it probably means he'll be available for the Bills games as well unless they pretty much instantaneously make a ruling and would start his suspension in less than 48 hours after the appeal is heard.

I remember reading that the NFL actually set a priority on pushing these appeals through. I think the delay is due to the nature of the appeal, in that the actual testing procedures are being called into question, so both sides need time to prepare experts and/or witnesses to the events. It is a bit different than appealing a fine/suspension from on the field play, or off the field conduct. Those things are essentially set in stone by the CBA, and both the NFLPA and the NFL know how much they can push on each side, and the whole process is just a review of the facts. Failed PED/banned substance tests are a lot more complicated, and have in the past pushed all the way to higher level courts.

cboom wrote:Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all.

I've spoken with a few people about this but I haven't seen it posted:

What about the possibility of a reduction to the suspension? Is that possible? Probably unlikely, but it seems to me to a compromise, if in fact that Browner and Sherman have ANY leg to stand on as far as their appeals. if the testing procedure could be questioned maybe they'll reduce the number?

Tech Worlds wrote:They are going to have a hard time MAKING the playoffs without these guys.

You push theses suspensions back as far as you can.

I agree. They are not going to help you out much in the playoffs, if there are no playoffs. Staggering would be ideal.

I think that's assuming that the drop off will be HUGE from BB/Sherm to our backups. I don't know who Pete will start in their places, but we don't really know how good or bad our backups are yet. Remember when Sherm was like 3rd or 4th string? There's no reason to think lightning can't strike twice.

Tru2RedNGold25 wrote:Us as Niners fan have every right to rep Niners all day everyday when we have the hardware to back it up do can u guys say that???

Walter Thurmond is a starting caliber NFL CB when healthy. We're not signing loan officers off the street to fill in here, we're expecting legitimate NFL players to step up and do what they're paid to do. Will there be a drop-off? Sure. However, in talking with people that know Carroll's scheme, CB is one of the more fungible positions. If we were to lose Earl it would be a way bigger blow than if we lost Sherm or Browner, regardless of how great we think those two are. Pete relies on his safeties more than his CBs.

These last 4 games, barring SF, should be wins for us regardless of having the duo. Having them out now would be highly ideal. I would rather have backups vs az, stl, buf, then having them against GB, CHI, NY in the playoffs.

hawksincebirth wrote:So Russell has leverage but marshawn doesn't ? I thought its next man up. Hey we got t jack and bj Daniels right ??

12thMan1 wrote:Has anyone considered that their suspension might get overturned? Or is it that unlikely?

Overturned is highly unlikely. Reduced, possibly. Off the top of my head, the only players that have had suspensions like these overturned/reduced fall into two categories: those that had a legitimate reason for using the banned substance, or those that fight the ruling to higher courts. Andre Brown successfully overturned a suspension for Adderall, because he had a prescription for it, I believe, and I am sure there are other cases like that. Granted we haven't heard the players side of things yet, so I am not sure of their argument, but the only way I see them getting off is proving some form of tampering.

cboom wrote:Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all.

If there is ANY chance this suspension is going to remain, we need to drop the appeal and allow the 4 games to start....It's an understatement to say that Lindley/Kolb/Skeleton and the Cards at home is a much easier game than SF, NYG, or GB on the road in the playoffs....

He must have a better story than "I drank my team-mates water bottle".

This is really a tough decision. Vital games to make the playoffs (albeit ones we feel we can win) or super important playoff game(s)? I find I change my mind on this every 10 minutes. But ultimately I think you have to do everything you can to make the playoffs. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. Never take anything for granted.

PS - Am I the only one who isn't all that torn up about the loss of Browner? I know he's head and shoulders better than our other guys. But he hasn't exactly played awesome of late. Sherman really hurts. And the duo together is killer. But Browner on his own wouldn't have got me too torn up.

Are we even sure that the suspensions would include playoff games? It might be that they get suspended for the last 2 games this year, get to play in the playoffs, then the first 2 games next year. I dont know, just throwing that out as a possibility.

As for rolling over and just taking the punishment if they were guilty I would say absolutely. But they both maintain their innocence. (im pretty sketical, but who knows) If they truely believe they're innocent I would hope that they fight it as long as possible.

Remember, the next time they get caught its a full season suspension. So if they think there's any chance of being proven innocent now they HAVE to take it, just in case they somehow get caught again in the future.

Tech Worlds wrote:They are going to have a hard time MAKING the playoffs without these guys.

No, we're not.

seriously, how did Cutler move the ball so EASILY late in the 4th to put da bears in position for a FG and ultimately tie the game?

that game was a cinch after the Hawks hogged the clock and moved the ball down field for 7, the ONLY way they lose or tie is if Cutler is able to connect on a hail mary down field and sure enough..

that was ugly, just as ugly as Kapps rainbow lateral to let the Rams back in..

however it was fun watching both games at the same time both go into overtime, the niner game was a 52 yarder away from being a tie for the second time in the same season with the same 2 teams.. wow, really wild games.

Why would Browner or Sherman want to lose game checks this year? These guys want to get paid, and the longer the appeal the longer they play this year and make money. I hope that these guys are telling the truth, and the suspensions a re reduced or lifted. I would also hope that these guys would think about the team first, but these guys are professionals and get paid. Why would they want to lose money now, when it's better to delay.

I am not sure the suspensions can be reduced. This is not a hit that was deemed a 10 out of 10 on some scale and when reviewed is changed to a 7 / 10 and suspensions is 1 game instead of 2 or something like that. This isn't a DUI that turned out from killing someone to the guy was jaywalking and you can apparently drive him over if that is the case (Donte Stallworth).

This is classified as a PED which carries a 4 game suspension. You either break the rules or have the right to take it. I see you winning this on bad testtaking or showing how you took something that shouldn't have had the drug in it but it did.

I guess I could see a lowered sentence only if the guy has the full medical clearance and NFL agrees on why but the guy should have applied earlier........ that is highly unlikely though