So much emotional reaction when gun violence is prominent in the news. I guess it's pointless to expect out leaders to make decisions based on facts. And it seems we can't even get our federal government to spend much of anything to find out what the facts really might say that they might make educated decisions. Apparently this is all we have so far: Science On Gun Laws

Seems there's plenty of data actually out there if someone would actually collect and analyze it. When I see such an effort to ban certain types of rifles, I think of the FBI data I've seen showing other types of weapons used in murders exceeding rifles by far, yet no one talks about that.

There's just so much ignorance and fear when it comes to guns, the public reacts emotionally and our beloved politicians do nothing more than follow suit.

It looks like the three main airlines that fly to Sioux Falls, SD from my area are Delta, United and American. I'm looking into airfare to Greg's seminar in May if work permits . Delta and United are out because of their pullout of the NRA discounts which leaves American, who couldn't pull out because they were never in..... If there are problems with American, where does Greyhound stand on the 2nd Amendment???? Amtrak??? I may have to take a stage coach to get there. Good thing the seminar is being held in the spring

Guys I totally in no way said exactly what I said Friday! PLEASE STILL GIVE ME YOUR MONEY!!!!!!

I don't believe how anyone can take this "whoops" seriously..... The guy even said "common sense approach".... which is the anti-gun's favorite broken record phrase. He's only sorry he showed his true colors.

Damn I’m tired of this, why the heck am I more afraid of losing rights now when we have “gun friendly” politicians as a majority? Why are more antigun things making it through now then when the Democrats has a majority in the house and senate along with the president?

The house just passed a spending bill with Gox Nocs attached to it. Just as many people said we never got reciprocity out of it either.

Damn I’m tired of this, why the heck am I more afraid of losing rights now when we have “gun friendly” politicians as a majority? Why are more antigun things making it through now then when the Democrats has a majority in the house and senate along with the president?

The house just passed a spending bill with Gox Nocs attached to it. Just as many people said we never got reciprocity out of it either.

This is bullshit.

The President is a con man that never gave a shit about gun owners. He just said what gun owners wanted to hear to sucker you into voting for him. And I offer everything he has done concerning guns since getting elected as proof.

Repubs in Congress are nervous as hell. The overwhelming majority of citizens see this presidency as a disaster. And when you combine that with the typical response of voting out the President's party whenever his first mid-term happens, and there are Republican Reps and Senators that are more paranoid than a cat in a rocking chair factory.

Just looking at last weeks election in PA alone, where a Republican seat was lost in the House in a Republican-Gerrymandered district, and they can see the writing on the wall. Since basically every one of them is equally as full of shit as the President, they are doing things with gun laws to try and keep hope of winning a vote with some of the middle-of-the-road voters that actually decide elections in most places. Politicians are for the most part soulless hypocrites that will sell your and their own positions out in a second when they see that they may lose their grip on power. Welcome to reality.

He just said what gun owners wanted to hear to sucker you into voting for him.

Did it really matter though? I mean seriously, it came down to vote for trump or vote for hillary and there was no way in hell I was voting for hillary. The vote for trump certainly wasn't because he was the best guy for the job. The best guy for the job never even gets a shot at it. You can't be right, and most popular, all at the same time. Not in this modern world. Hitler reincarnated could have been running against hillary and hitler would have won. She is that fucking crazy, and everyone knows it.

So now, because of all this... republicans will get voted out, democrats will have insane power... and they'll take this country to the darkest place we've known since the great depression or the fight for independence. AFTER that happens, we might get a chance at some decent leadership when everyone is begging the real men of this country to fix it.

... if we don't get destroyed by a foreign power while all this is going on, that is.

He just said what gun owners wanted to hear to sucker you into voting for him.

Did it really matter though? I mean seriously, it came down to vote for trump or vote for hillary and there was no way in hell I was voting for hillary. The vote for trump certainly wasn't because he was the best guy for the job. The best guy for the job never even gets a shot at it. You can't be right, and most popular, all at the same time. Not in this modern world. Hitler reincarnated could have been running against hillary and hitler would have won. She is that fucking crazy, and everyone knows it.

So now, because of all this... republicans will get voted out, democrats will have insane power... and they'll take this country to the darkest place we've known since the great depression or the fight for independence. AFTER that happens, we might get a chance at some decent leadership when everyone is begging the real men of this country to fix it.

... if we don't get destroyed by a foreign power while all this is going on, that is.

This discussion could get real deep real fast.

As for Trump being the "only" choice, there were like 17 candidates standing on the stage at the first Republican debate. I didn't think any of them were spectacular choices, but about all of them were better than Trump. Republicans had the chance to change this outcome a long time before Nov 2016, and yet they failed to change the trajectory of this story. In the end, it was Republican primary voters that created the hold-your-nose choice between Hillary and Trump from the major parties. It didn't have to be that way. But Trump lied about his real gun stance from Day One, and every gun owner that voted for him believed him. For many reasons other than just guns, the election of DJT was the biggest grift in human history. The gun rights issue is just the one we are interested in here.

As for only having 2 choices, that is exactly the way the powers want you to think. Both the Rs and Ds are OK with losing power in one cycle or another, because they know that they are only a handful of years from being back on top. There are plenty of Dems that were secretly quite happy that Trump won. They knew that the Republicans would get trounced in Nov 2018 with Trump as President, so they were willing to sacrifice these two years to win the long game in both the US and state/local governments.

Our entire system is set up to keep the scam going. It is like how Pepsi and Coca Cola have both been simultaneously in competition and in collusion to keep any other Cola companies from ever getting a stronghold in this country. Coke wants you to buy Coke, but as long as you buy Pepsi and not RC, then they still win.

Now take that to how the media is set up. You have Fox/Hannity/Rush/etc screaming from one side, and MSNBC/Kos/Huff/etc screaming from the other side. As long as you either take one of these sides, or get so tired of the noise that you just don't give a shit, both sides are OK in the grand scheme. They both still win in the long run.

But you know what no side wants you to do? Vote third party. As long as the attitude in this country is that this is a binary, A or B choice, nothing will ever change. It always fails my logic to understand why voters keep voting for the "lesser of two evils", sending their vote to someone they don't really like or agree with on many/most issues. And yet, year after year, they keep doing it. And therefore, year after year, we get the same bullshit.

Urban Definition of Insanty: Doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results.

PS: And the destroyed by a Foreign power thing? With the ineptitude of our President and his cabinet, I unfortunately see that as a much too real possibility. We already handed economic control of the world to China by trying to be isolationist, it will just probably take a few decades for it to actually play out. Once we are so financially weakened that we can no longer afford the best military in the world, we are in deep shit. Because we are hated by almost everyone, even our so-called allies.

I have said all along, the two party system is an absolute failure and you hit the nail on the head. Years ago candidates running for governor of the state of Florida had to sue to get involved in a televised debate because they didn't have an R or D next to their names. I taught business seminars in Grenada In 2000 if I recall correctly. There were elections on the island and I noticed that on an island of approximately 280,000 people at the time, there were 4 very active political parties.

We need to start voting our conscience and NOT for a political party. We as taxpayers have had to put up with extreme crap from the right required to be offset by extreme crap from the left in order to get things done in Washington. If this isn't the quintessential example of a failed political system I don't know what is. The result is a bunch of crap. I believe the disfunction we've had to endure for the last 30+ years is a direct result of our fouled up disfunctional 2 party system.

I'm doing this because as far as I know, yeti hasn't said anything about gun control. I honestly can't imagine yeti with such a huge support base in the hunting community, being so stupid as to bite the hand that feeds them. Competition in the cooler market is increasing with numerous other brands trying to get into the space with the same product for less.

I don’t like the NRA, I think they’re trash, but I think most of these companies that quit supporting them do it because their weak or anti gun, not because they believe the NRA is screwing over gun owners.

So in one thought I like that less companies are supporting the NRA, and wish more would do so, they’re doing it for the wrong reasons.

I'm doing this because as far as I know, yeti hasn't said anything about gun control. I honestly can't imagine yeti with such a huge support base in the hunting community, being so stupid as to bite the hand that feeds them. Competition in the cooler market is increasing with numerous other brands trying to get into the space with the same product for less.

It'll be interesting to see what YETI ends up saying or what further actions they take. Last year they banned open carry and conceal carry in their store(s) but then reversed their decision a couple days later. It was speculated their were appealing to the masses who were there for the South by Southwest festival or something. So who really knows.

So Tim Kennedy went on a podcast (or YouTube video) with Lance Armstrong and basically said gun control is a massive solution and no one under 21 should be able to buy a fire. I know in previous Facebook posts he has supported a Bump stock ban.

I’m not entirely sure he has a company, but I know he does work for a few. (Including the NRA and 5.11)

“YETI severed ties with the NRA and is now engaging in damage control after a backlash from many of its customers. In early March, YETI refused to place a previously negotiated order from NRA-ILA, citing ‘recent events’ as the reason – a clear reference to the tragedy in Parkland, Florida. YETI then delivered notice to the NRA Foundation that it was terminating a 7-year agreement and demanded that the NRA remove the YETI name and logo from all NRA digital assets, as well as refrain from using any YETI trademarks in future print material,” Marion Hammer said.

“YETI is trying to spin the story otherwise, those are the facts. While Yeti can change their story, but they can’t change the facts. Whether their changing story is due to the recent cancellation of the IPO from their New York City owners is a question only they can answer.”

A local Police force brought a bunch of guns to their shop in Oregon to have them destroyed, the local police force took pictures of them doing it and posted it to Facebook thanking Benchmade for helping them destroy firearms.

It’s being said in some instances judges can force this to be done (apparently), don’t know if this is the case here.

Why Benchmade would do this is beyond me.

But that incident isn’t what made me post this, it was brought up that Benchmade and the owner Les de Asis donate a lot of money to mostly Democrats. And sure enough looking at OpenSecrets.org it looks like its almost entirely Democrats.

You can use this information as you see fit. I know I won’t be buying a Benchmade knife, but I most likely wasn’t going to in the first place except for one that a buddy told me I had to get. Which I no longer will be.