I have taken my 9000 Aero into the garage to get the rear disks and pads done. :cry:

To my joy, the only courtesy car they had available was a 2 door c900T16s in grey. Cruise control, power steering, sunroof, turbo'd Saab lump - Old Swedish Style, I don't know too much about the cars (yet :wink: ), but I can report that the grin will not go away :cheesy: , and I seem to have fallen in love with the exhaust note (even though it has a big blow in it :roll:

Shall report back tommorow once I have driven it some more and had some more fun - Saabists it is 22:57 and it's time to go on a c900 night drive.

Pity it seems underpowered though. If I got one, I think I'd have to Tandino it. :wink: - And I'd be keeping the Aero 8)

It only boosts to the middle of the yellow, so I reckon there might be a little fault somewhere - but hey, what do I care - it's so much fun - it's a cheeky little car with enough kick to out run most other cars.

Mark
:cheesy:

nutcase

12th May 2004, 07:30 PM

I do believe he's learning!

(ducks from 9k owners!)

craigdeluxe

12th May 2004, 07:33 PM

I always tought the 9000 was just a glorified lancia anyway.
(runs like feck to take cover)

If the boost was only half in the yellow you were only having a third of the fun 8)

Matthew

12th May 2004, 07:46 PM

Sounds like it's on base boost only.

Last weekend I had a hire car - a 9000 2.3T Griffin. As nice as that car was, I was so pleased to get back into the T16 a few days later. Everything in that car is sharper and more responsive - throttle, steering, brakes, suspension, feedback.

I have a lot of respect for 9000s, especially after working on Alan's car and being passenger in Nev's Aero around Elvington. However, for me it's C900 all the way 8)

Mark,
The T16S is a rather special car is'nt it? Even better with full booooost :cheesy:

I missed my old one so much I just had to get another.

There's no way I'm getting rid of the Aero though,now the handling is properly sorted.
Both fantastic cars although the T16S wins on pure charisma

garry

13th May 2004, 06:42 AM

Maybe the garage disconnected the APC to stop you going too fast :D .... Have a look and see if the APC is connected at the box or at the solenoid on top of the radiator.

Imagine what a c900 would feel like with aero power... :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :cheesy:

Paco

13th May 2004, 06:47 AM

Imagine what a c900 would feel like with aero power... :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :cheesy:

It felt pretty good thanks.... :wink:

(ok I only had 217 bhp, but it was close enough :cheesy: )

greenphotos

13th May 2004, 07:33 AM

Maybe the garage disconnected the APC to stop you going too fast :D .... Have a look and see if the APC is connected at the box or at the solenoid on top of the radiator.

Thanks! Can you PM me some advice on the location of it or should I post in the other forum? I don't want this to turn into a c900 workshop thread!
Mark
:cheesy:

greenphotos

13th May 2004, 10:42 AM

Thanks for the PMs,
The 'RedBox' APC is plugged in and I can't see any loose boost hoses or find the fuse. - Maybe it's best for me to stick to the 9000 eh?

It's going back to the garage this afternoon anyway (can't wait to get in the Aero again :cheesy:

Are there any more 9000 drivers that have been converted?

Mattlach

13th May 2004, 10:48 AM

I always tought the 9000 was just a glorified lancia anyway.
(runs like feck to take cover)

I dread to hear what you might think of my 95 Aero :P

GearHead

13th May 2004, 11:51 AM

as always the C900 is triumphant over the 9000

*runs like feck towards cover,dons flameproof jacket*

greenphotos

13th May 2004, 12:11 PM

triumphant -- I think not - VV ood fun though- Can't wait to get my 225bhp as standard back :wink:

Mattlach

13th May 2004, 12:14 PM

as always the C900 is triumphant over the 9000

*runs like feck towards cover,dons flameproof jacket*

Well being based on similar technology with the same sized engines, the C900 will naturally have the advantage.

Everything else being equal...

1.) Its a lighter car. The same engine will propel it faster.

2.) Its a lighter car. handling should be better.

That being said, if you ask me, the C900 is a bit on the small side. I'm a rather tall guy though, so I may notice it more than others.

Its all about tradeoffs.

Personally I dont think I'd consider driving anything smaller than a Saab 95/BMW 5 Series etc., or what they call Mid-Sized here in the U.S.

(I believe since the average car in Europe is smaller, this same class is considered large in Europe)

ragtopcav

13th May 2004, 12:36 PM

as always the C900 is triumphant over the 9000

Was that a pun in there, Triumphant? as in the cars roots firmly planted in Triumph cars? Well it amused me for a second or two.

chico_85

13th May 2004, 12:39 PM

As a 9000 Aero owner, I think this thread should be deleted for spreading misconception that the c900 is more fun than the 9000s. Greenphotos' opinion is anomaly 8) :cheesy:

Rhino2.3t

13th May 2004, 01:26 PM

mm that's a difficult one :wink: i'd think the c900 is more 'fun' but it depends how you get your kicks..
noise, response, quirks,feel.. all adds up to fun for some.
i think cars are almost too capable these days, for example, how anyone could class driving these latest evorice rockets as 'fun' when you get nowhere near the limits of the car on ordinary roads is beyond me.. i'd much rather something that takes a bit of driving - Paco's big cat on a wet roundabout :-?? 8)

greenphotos

13th May 2004, 03:04 PM

Ok, after having picked up my car from the garage, I can confirm that the 9000 Aero is more powerful, and more fun, and more confortable, and faster than the c900 (in my opinion)... for the moment.... I think....

Loving getting back to the stiff Koni's though. :cheesy:

Mark
:cheesy:

garry

13th May 2004, 03:50 PM

You really must try a T16S that works next time :D You may be even more impressed. :)

GearHead

13th May 2004, 07:34 PM

so,how much of an adjustment is it from N/A C900 to Turbo C900? :P

garry

13th May 2004, 09:50 PM

I have done a 87 900i to 92 T16S jump.

Words can not describe the difference :D

900i ::
dependable, no slouch for the size, handles extreemly well, good on a motorway.
A damn near perfect car.

As for Greenphotos retro love for the c900 when compared to the 9K
All you c900 dudes should try out a 99! Its like a fine sauce reduced so the flavors are more intense. :D

I drove our 84 99GL for 4 weeks whilst an insurance claim was settled... its was simply divine fun!
Got through lots of fuel though because everyone wanted to go for (what became known as) a 99 adventure! ... all the time. 8) :D

FloridaPete

14th May 2004, 12:33 AM

Got through lots of fuel though because everyone wanted to go for (what became known as) a 99 adventure! ... all the time. 8) :D

MAGIC !!!!

Naranto

14th May 2004, 06:22 AM

OK where does the 99T fit in this equation :cheesy: :wink:

heavy_t

14th May 2004, 07:01 AM

Took me a while to get used to the c900 handling after driving just a 99 for so long (especially the power steering). I love the c900 handling now although mine really needs new shocks!

I still find the long front overhang on the c900 makes it feel a bit unweildy at times, but it's fun flying round corners in what most people would assume is a wallowy tank :cheesy:

The 99 is still more fun though IMHO :cheesy:

garry

14th May 2004, 07:30 AM

it's fun flying round corners in what most people would assume is a wallowy tank :cheesy:

The 99 is still more fun though IMHO :cheesy:

I was shocked to find out that the c900 is lighter NOT heavier than the NG900. I had always assumed that the c900 used the heaviest metal possible for some reason.

Isn't the wheelbase/track almost exactly the same as the new BMW Mini as well?

Mattlach

14th May 2004, 10:37 AM

I was shocked to find out that the c900 is lighter NOT heavier than the NG900. I had always assumed that the c900 used the heaviest metal possible for some reason.

Thats a common misconception.

Sheet metal is really a very small portion of a cars weight.

Its all the extra bits that make it heavier. Stiffer frames, heavier engines, transmission, and a big one.. sound insulation.

The rubber lead mats they use for sound proofing weigh a LOT, and from riding in both C900's and GM900's I'd definitely guess the GM900 has a lot more of it...

my $.02

kemosaabey

14th May 2004, 02:19 PM

The new Fiesta weighs nearly as much as a C900! Quite impressed how solid this thing felt (for a Ford...)

The 9K doesn't weigh that much more than a 900, infact the sheetmetal (doors) seems slightly thinner than the C900...(hope nobody's fitted croma doors to mine... :lol: )