Common sense does have to come into account. JAWS ignores more than half of Lofton's career, parts of which were kinda ******. Does it take into effect dWAR? Because I do have issues with that stat. Beltran is below Lofton? Seriously?

JAWS combines WAR7 and WAR. It does include defense and a lot of Lofton's value comes from his defense. I agree that there are issues with dWAR. I wouldn't have voted for Lofton in 2013 because there are 10 players I'd put on the ballot ahead of him. But I don't think he falls into the Bernie Williams/Steve Finley near automatic "no vote" category.

FWIW, I asked Jaffe on twitter and he responded. See below. He also said in his next tweet "all of which is to say: borderline HOF, but not sure I'd game the balloting by voting for him over a more unanimous candidate." Also, sure, follow me on twitter. Although I rarely have anything interesting to say. So don't.

Nope. The difference between Williams and Butler was negligible. The difference between Lofton and Butler was huge. But I don't know why I'm arguing about baseball with you. You're the guy that thought Bernie Williams and Edgar Martinez "were comparable offensive players."

In 93, Lofton had a WAR of 7. Contributed to 7 more wins than the replacement player, despite his barely over .800 OPS and 1 home run that year. Mostly on baserunning and defense. And this is where I have my issues with WAR. IMO, some of the data on this stuff is iffy and hard to quantify, and yet we do that and claim that Lofton is this and this guy is that.

That said, look at some of the CFers in the mid 90s and compare them to Lofton. Lofton made a lot of allstar teams in the mid-late 90s for a reason.

Maybe Lofton doesn't belong. Maybe he does. He isn't a Mays/Cobb level talent, which is OK, because that isn't the standard for inclusion. We shouldn't dismiss his case just because he doesn't feel like a hall of famer.

Quite a list.
Shows how underrated Speaker was
And how Griffey is the best center fielder most of us have seen

After Snider, I'm not arguing for any of those guys in the hall save for Hamilton