> George wrote to Allen: "It amounts to saying that our
> only choices are hard-core atheism and YEC."
>
> I think that is probably too harsh. Allen may be thinking that these are
> the only two RATIONAL positions, but I think he is not "reading out of
> the faith" those of us with what he sees as irrational positions. As I do
> not "read him out of the faith" for holding what I consider to be a fairy
> tale explanation, one which necessarily has a god doing all sorts of
> illogical and unnecessary cleanup actions.

You may be right that that is not his intention. Perhaps he just doesn't
understand the implications of what he's said.