Even between the two of them, given the sheer number of opportunities Nuanez and Lear have been involved in I’d readily classify them as “opportunity jumpers”.

Val Smyth on the other hand hails from The Legends Network. Bob Bremner is officially credited as the founder and CEO of the company, however multiple readers (some affiliates of the company) claim that the company is infact owned by Val Smyth (see comments section of our Legends Network review).

Prior to that Smyth launched a series of marketing tools orientated opportunities, each utilizing 1-up style (pass-up) compensation plans.

Now, Smyth Nuanez and Lear have gotten together to launch Total Takeover (not to be confused with The Total Takeover, a collapsed $50 a month cash gifting scheme launched in 2013).

Read on for a full review of the Total Takeover MLM business opportunity.

The Total Takeover Product Line

The Total Takeover has no retailable products or services, with affiliates only able to market affiliate membership with the company itself ($89.95 a month).

Bundled with Total Takeover affiliate membership is access to a series of internet marketing products.

The Total Takeover Compensation Plan

The Total Takeover compensation plan sees affiliates pay $89.95 a month and get paid to recruit other affiliates who do the same.

Commission Qualification

In order to qualify for commissions in Total Takeover, an affiliate must recruit at least two affiliates who have been allocated to their upline (the affiliate who recruited them).

Passed up affiliates are the second and fourth affiliates recruited.

Note that passed up affiliates must be “active”, in that they are paying their $89.95 affiliate fee. If one of the originally passed up affiliates stops paying this fee, the affiliate who recruited them must recruit another affiliate to pass up.

The two active passed up affiliate requirement is ongoing and needs to be maintained, it is not a once-off requirement.

Recruitment Commissions (reverse 1-up)

Total Takeover use a reverse 1-up style compensation structure to pay affiliates to recruit.

A reverse 1-up style compensation structure sees all affiliates “pass up” a portion of their second and fourth recruited affiliate commission to the affiliate who recruited them.

In turn, on all the affiliates not passed up, they each pass up their second and fourth recruited affiliates too.

On affiliates recruited who are not passed up (all recruited affiliates except the second, fourth and any subsequent recruited affiliates passed up to meet commission qualification requirements), Total Takeover pay out $45.

This commission comes straight out of the affiliate fee charged the recruited affiliates, and therefore is an ongoing monthly commission.

Passed up affiliates (second, fourth and any others passed up to meet ongoing commission qualification requirements), pay out $20 – with $25 passed up to the upline.

Once an affiliate’s downline starts recruiting, they in turn receive $25 passed up commissions from the second and fourth affiliates recruited by their recruits (excluding those passed up to their upline).

Matrix Recruitment Commissions

Total Takeover use a 2×10 matrix to pay out residual recruitment commissions to their affiliates.

A 2×10 matrix sees an affiliate places at the top of the matrix with two positions directly under them (level 1):

In turn, these two positions branch out into another two positions each (level 2), and so on and so forth down a total of ten levels (2046 total positions).

Positions in the matrix are filled via recruitment, either directly (personally recruited affiliates) or indirectly via the recruitment efforts of an affiliate’s upline and downline.

Commissions are paid out based on how many positions in the matrix are filled, with Total Takeover paying $1 for each filled position.

Joining Total Takeover

Affiliate membership with Total Takeover is $89.95 a month.

Conclusion

Mirroring the types of opportunities the founders have been attracted to of late, Total Takeover combines an irrelevant product offering with a recruitment-driven compensation plan.

It is positions in said compensation plan that are being purchased, with the ongoing fee serving only as a qualification to receive ongoing commissions paid out directly of the fees paid by recruited affiliates.

This is reflected in Total Takeover’s own compensation plan guide, which breaks down affiliate commissions as follows:

Month 1 – You get your 4, you pass 2 of them upline.

Month 2 – Your 2 get their 4.

Month 3 – Your 4 get their 4.

Month 4 – Your 8 get their 4.

Month 5 – Your 16 get their 4.

Month 6 – Your 32 get their 4.

Month 7 – Your 64 get their 4. Now you have a residual income of $6,430 per month!!!

The training bundled with affiliate membership is neither here nor there, serving only to offer cover for the payment of commissions on the recruitment of new affiliates.

Retail is non-existent (nobody is paying $89.95 a month for no-name garbage marketing tools and repurposed Val Smyth interviews from The Legends Network), so the only way to earn commissions in Total Takeover is via recruitment.

As with all recruitment based schemes, once recruitment dries up (typically within a few months), those at the bottom stop paying their $89.95 a month fees.

This means that those above them stop getting paid and in turn stop paying their monthly participation fees.

This effect then slowly trickles up the company until an irreversible pyramid scheme collapse is triggered.

Having joined a number of opportunities that have gone through this very scenario (RE247365 probably being the most recent example), it seems Smyth, Lear and Nuanez have decided it pays more to be an admin of such a scheme instead of an affiliate.

The only position that receives more pass-ups than the early adopter friends of the admin is the admin themselves.

Where that leaves those who join Total Takeover as participating affiliates is entirely up to you.

Wow Someone has a bug up their behind writing this. First off there are digital products that you can not get anywhere. There will be training and other educational products.

As far as the owners, they are working to help others succeed in an industry that has been ruined by some company owners.

Example. I was a top distributor at another company. I worked Very hard to do that and 2 days before Christmas I was locked out of my account. I received an email that I was under investigation but did not say for what.

I was Called by the owner Bob Bremner and his Daughter Christy Daniels told the investigation showed I did NOT violate any of the policies or anything Yet they still have not paid me the $9,000 they owe me.

I have resigned from Nutronix/Thelegendsnetwork and do know of others who are not getting paid by them. Who ever wrote this article obviously has done zero research as Total Take Over will have customers and Distributors.

Have a great day. I will work to help others everywhere in the world to Learn, Grow, and Become Caring people who will move on to help others.

Regardless, there’s still zero retail activity taking place with all commissions paid on the recruitment of new affiliates.

This is a problem.

What “will” happen is irrelevant to what is actually happening now. Even if retail is introduced at a later date, you and I both know nobody is paying these guys $89.95 a month without the attached income opportunity.

I would pay monthly for what they offer without every being paid. Top networkers from around the world Teaching what they know.

Oh yes. People pay thousands and thousands of dollars to go to College just to have a teacher who has never done mlm teach them the basics. Here we learn from REAL people who know how to Show us, not just tell us. This is Generic Information and training that People will be able to take with them to grow any business.

I have had those Bad sponsors and Bad companies where you get in and then can not get any training. This will help millions to Move forward with the confidence and actual Knowledge of Networking, MLM or what ever you want to call it. It will also help companies as they will have educated distributors growing their companies.

I call out to all Networkers to get an education so you learn how to earn. Stop falling for the lies of “Do nothing and get rich” Isn’t it time You started to succeed?

The only ones this seems to bother is those who do not want to work for what they have or those who do not want others to learn. I will pay for my education so I do not have to have my family pay my bills.

Hmmm perhaps because nothing has launched and distributors have to be in place to build a company before there is a company.

You find sales people before you can sell anything. You hire office staff before you can open an office. No store owner has anything for sale without first having people to stock, run the registers or purchase products.

Right now this is a prelaunch. Attacking before something even launches is ignorant.

No one is paying a penny until they know what they have. People who want to work it after all has been revealed will stay and those who do not want to will go.

I will be with this company either way. I will learn all I can for as long as I can.

As far as I am concerned those who wrote this article and those who are against people learning and earning money are the ones who are BS ing the world.

I guess scammerssuk above here is just another like many out there that will not want you to learn or make money unless it benefits him in some way. Great job.

Either way You will not stop the movement to help people around the world. I would much rather be a fool who cares about others than a worthless piece of crap that is out for themselves only. Have a great day.

I call out to all Networkers to get an education so you learn how to earn. Stop falling for the lies of “Do nothing and get rich” Isn’t it time You started to succeed?

Either way You will not stop the movement to help people around the world. I would much rather be a fool who cares about others than a worthless piece of crap that is out for themselves only”\—rebecca stevenson

^^^ already fully trained , i say.

why pay $90/mo for any further education? just spread the word and spread the love, without recruitment.

This is just another pure ponzi scheme that is being run by guys that have been in everything under the sun mostly recruitment games.

Under DSA laws and FTC laws you have to have retail sales of a certain percentage. That is why companys with monthly autoship require their members to have 50% of the autoship has to be to a retail customer. This is why so many companys are requiring this to be legal.

For 90 dollars a month you are going to have to have alot of retail sales and in a recruitment game like this it wont happen. Only ones paying the 90 dollars will be the members which makes the program a ponzi scheme.

It will be interesting what merchant account or payment processer would even touch this because of huge chargebacks when most of the members never see any spillover or money in their downline.

I wonder how they are going to pay worldwide as well. Will be interesting to see this one unfold.

Rebecca Stevenson:
Either way You will not stop the movement to help people around the world. I would much rather be a fool who cares about others than a worthless piece of crap that is out for themselves only. Have a great day.

So, when can I expect that check from you for $10,000? I am in need of help myself.

Yes, this is a TOTAL SCAM for sure. It looks like they are only paying out $55 in commissions, so that leaves $35 for the 3 muskateers, Val Smyth, Dave and Wallace! WOW!!

And from what I heard about Rebecca, she was actually recruiting downline into this a month before she was terminated from TLN. INCREDIBLE!

But aside from that, it is just the worst comp plan I have ever seen. $2600 a month for a full matrix? WHAT???

My prediction is Total Takeover will not last a month if that. These free scams never work. The websites are terrible, comp plan is ridiculously bad, the product is non existent, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE do not lose your money in this.

Anyone that actually does deserves it because there are so many red flags. But they will have at least one customer with Rebecca, haha.

Val Smyth is a washed up has been who should be prosecuted if they actually do take peoples money. Lets hope it never gets that far.

Rebecca I wasn’t going to jump in here on this discussion but when known ponzi men are pumping this it is an immediate red flag for those who have seen just about every way these guys try and separate you from your money. when guys like ken r are touting this run as fast as you can.

here is an email that I received from another one who jumps from program to program and if you read what is sent it literally makes little sense at all. This is before anyone has even joined and he retired???

I sent one email, got 50 sign ups and retired.

The response was so huge, I decided to send one more email.

I have a successful business but I could not pass this up.

you can believe what you want about these guys and gals who have been calling out the scammers for some time now and have little patience for those who want to believe that they only want to help others achieve in life.

they have seen it all fall apart for people and get devastated by these kinds of programs.

You keeping saying you’ll gladly pay the money every month for the lessons, but you are so emotionally invested you don’t realize the problem with this offer: why isn’t there a “student only” offering? If they are sincerely wanting to teach?

they are working to help others succeed in an industry that has been ruined by some company owners.
Example. I was a top distributor at another company… (sob story snipped for length)

Since you didn’t pick a winner the previous time. What makes you think this one will be any different, other than you HOPING it would be? Didn’t you think that PREVIOUS opportunity was going to be the best thing ever as well?

Someone has a bug up their behind writing this.

Sounds like you’re just pissed that someone rained on your parade.

People pay thousands and thousands of dollars to go to College just to have a teacher who has never done mlm teach them the basics.

Nope. Only two colleges in the entire US teach any courses on MLM. Doesn’t cost “thousands and thousands” of dollars. Are you reading someone’s ad copy?

Seem to recall there’s already a previous effort to sell MLM lessons for $49.95 a month, and supposedly had some big name marketers giving lessons too.

As far as I am concerned those who wrote this article and those who are against people learning and earning money are the ones who are BS ing the world.

As far as I am concerned you sound just like those crazies who accuse critics of being in league with the Illuminati to control the world population, Bilderberg Group, Conspiracy of the Rich, and all that.

What you don’t seem to realize is you are in emotional stress from being unfairly dumped from your previous scheme. And this is your “rebound”. Now you are TOTALLY EMOTIONALLY INVESTED much like falling in love with someone.

But you can’t make business decisions wisely while emotionally invested. It leads to poor decisions.

What Rebecca Stevenson and others need to learn is that a 2 Up Comp Plan has a 100% failure rate in the history of MLM.

The 2 Up Comp Plan was first introduced in the mid 1980’s. This comp plan is ALWAYS associated with a SCAM where people are selling overpriced digital products or services that you can find cheap or free elsewhere.

What they are really selling is the opportunity to find others to buy the opportunity. The only thing of value changing hands is the money. And, the value flows just one way – UP – leaving losers at the bottom wondering where their money went.

Yes, in order for people at the top to make money, people at the bottom of the scheme have to lose money.

The only programs still offering the 2 Up Comp Plan are blatant illegal money games. It doesn’t matter how they “twist” or “code” the bonuses. Once recruitment ends, the game is over.

If you look at the top 50 MLM companies, you will discover that none of them use a 2 Up Comp Plan. Why not? Because it’s shunned in virtually all markets worldwide.

What’s the connection … other than being a similar scams “businesses” … between “Total Takeover” and “NeuCopia”, the latter being referenced in the “Total Takeover” terms and conditions, i.e., “(e.g., Newcopia, CopiaNeu, Total Takeovers, etc.)”?

Rebecca Stevenson: As far as I am concerned those who wrote this article and those who are against people learning and earning money are the ones who are BS ing the world.

If the article writer and most commentators here … the pro-fraudulent schemes folks being the exception are “against” anything, it’s the unwary being victimized by web scammers.

Rebecca Stevenson: No one is paying a penny until they know what they have. People who want to work it after all has been revealed will stay and those who do not want to will go.

I will be with this company either way. I will learn all I can for as long as I can.

If you don’t know “what they have”, how can you state the you will “be with this company either way”?

I mean, if it’s just the same old, same old digital e-book type crap that schemes like this have flogged to web “make money online” newbs for years and that exists only as window dressing to mask the fraudulent nature of the scheme, are you saying you’ll push it regardless?

Do you have any proof that any of the owners have ever made any honest money … subsequent to leaving the fast food/paper route type jobs many “internet marketers” had before becoming web marketing geniuses … from any endeavor, or for that matter made any money from anything other than peddling “how to make money” schemes and frauducts?

If not, what type of knowledge “products” could they offer that would be of any value to anyone?

Rebecca Stevenson: Either way You will not stop the movement to help people around the world. I would much rather be a fool who cares about others than a worthless piece of crap that is out for themselves only.

I’ve noticed over the past few years that the “help people” and “we support charity “X” type malarkey has become a staple line of fraudulent schemes promoters and their enablers, e.g., traffic/banner exchange owners … helps build “confidence” in the scheme/owner.

The only people these folks “care” about is themselves but, they know that pretending to care about the folks they’re scamming and/or “charity” (which for them begins and ends at home) and presenting themselves as people of integrity and compassion … the exact opposite of who they are … keeps the money rolling in.

Agreed! No one in their right mind would pay $90 a month for audios that you can basically get for free on youtube anyway! And if you do join, they make it appear that you have thousands of people under you, when in reality you have no one!! TOTAL SCAM!!

What’s the connection … other than being a similar scams “businesses” … between “Total Takeover” and “NeuCopia”, the latter being referenced in the “Total Takeover” terms and conditions

I didn’t see anything obvious. Could be a copypaste job of Neucopia’s T&C’s, or they could have bought the Neucopia affiliate database… might be some hidden partnership they’re not going public with – who knows.

at this point they haven’t taken any money from anyone, so they cannot be stopped at this point.

there is a reason these scams take free prelaunch join up’s . if they accept payments in prelaunch, without giving any ‘product’ in return, then the money qualifies as ‘seed capital’, and an investment which has not been reported to the SEC . this can cause immediate stoppage of their business, even before they start.

so they take free joinups and then create a frenzied momentum and then rake in the cash with some stupid product offering, and shut down equally fast.

This just shows the sorry state of our industry today and why I believe the internet ruined network marketing.But unfortunately, that’s what people want, free signup, free product, free money.

I dont believe they have ruined anything but their own credibility. This garbage is not part of “our industry” and anyone with half a brain knows it. No one with ANY measure of success or credibility even knows this crap exists.

Legitimate networking companies are Sooooo far above reproach compared to this nonsense, its not even funny. Please dont lend them ANY credibility by talking about them as if they are part of direct sales or network marketing. They cant be any further FROM it. They are a 50 cent carnival side show at best. Lead by complete Morons who have NEVER created ANY residual income, for themselves or anyone else, EVER!

Its only popular amongst the scammers themselves and those that just like to swim around in the toilet bowl. No serious networker, prospect, business, or business owner pays ANY attention to this junk.

Personally, the only reason I get involved is for pure entertainment value and the fact that I have too much time on my hands, ha ha. 🙂

I agree Common Sense. But the people that get in these things end up with a bad taste in their mouth for network marketing in general. But then again, maybe I would never want these people in the first place, lol.

Yes, no serious networker would touch it with a 10′ pole.

It is going to be interesting to see what happens on Jan. 26 LAUNCH DATE.

This has been a real interesting read and ty Oz for putting this out to warn people of this type of crap that is being marketed online.

It just shows how deep in the toilet bowl internet marketing has gone. Any professional networker would look at this and laugh their head off.

This is being pushed all over facebook where all the ponzi schemes are nowadays. You dont see any top networkers marketeting this crap.

The launch day will prove to be interesting to see if a merchant account is in place and if it is how the payment processer will work and who they are.

As for this Rebecca woman from the trailer park saying she would market these products even if she did not get paid , i find that sort of weird when she was complaining about not getting paid from her last company with same products .

I read the reason she got kicked out of the other company was that she was cross recruiting for this new deal for 4 weeks while still with the other company.Any company would kick her out for doing this.

I wonder when they are going to tell the people joining that the people they see in their back under them in the straight line are not really in their downline. Maybe they will take their money first then spring it on them.

The comp plan is one of the worst i ever seen and paying out 55.00 of the 89.95 and the 3 owners keep the rest (35.00) plus have all the top spots in the matrix.

Truly amazing and I would think the FTC would have a field day with them like zeek and telexfree and many others. Plus they used the same name of a Ponzi that collapsed last year called THE TOTAL TAKEOVER. Just google them.

Part of the problem in “internet marketing” is there is no “recognized authority” or even any sort of “formal study”. Any Joe Schmoe can claim to be internet marketer and hang out a shingle and start recruiting.

Even DSA don’t want to get into these muddy waters. DSA has a ‘research’ division that surveys and whatnot, but there seem to be no attempt to formally organize the direct marketers or MLMers, or any attempt to “regulate” the industry with certifications and such.

Add true scumbags (worse than douchebags) like “the Syndicate” like those documented in “The Verge” that goes after disabled and elderly who can’t work for needs income with hard and and soft sell to squeeze every penny from their wallet and you have a true snake pit.

It also appears this Rebecca character is defaming her former company saying they have not paid thousands of distributors. I have not seen any posts from anyone in that company that has not been paid, interesting as you would think that would be big news on its own.

Apparently she is trying to get distributors into this scam by making possible false statements about the former company on her facebook page which could very well lead to a lawsuit against her.

She should tread carefully before making false claims. It very well could really bite her in the butt.

Chris: It also appears this Rebecca character is defaming her former company

Now, now, I wouldn’t go that far to deny that. We simply have NO INFO going either way.

We’ve seen douchebag companies do despicable things to affiliates before. Wasn’t there one the other day where the top-earning couple claim they got shafted and terminated because they won’t give a personal loan, no questions asked, to the owner’s buddy? 🙂

Rebecca Stevenson was in The Legends Network. Total TakeOver is basically a copycat of that program.

I’m sure the claim she made about non-payment in The Legends Network is true. Happens all the time in programs with 2 up comp plans when recruitment ends, people quit, and there’s no money coming in to pay out those close to the top.

The Legends Network won’t be suing anyone. That would draw even more attention to the fact that it’s an illegal money game.

That’s what happens when Network Marketing let fraud run rampant and people “learned” that Network Marketing is “all network, no marketing”. So everybody is building network… for WHICHEVER scheme / program that comes along.

Just found out you cannot even see your matrix until you pay the $90!! OMG!

The chargebacks are going to be through the roof!!! ROFL!!

And it looks like the merchant account is going to hold funds for 21 days! So no one will be paid in the best case scenario until the end of February! Plenty of time for the people at the bottom with no one in their matrix to get their money back.

Luckily, people are waking up to the fact that Total Takeover is just a Total Scam and the Facebook groups are exploding with negative comments. Especially after Val announced that you won’t be placed in the matrix until you pay $90!! TOO MUCH!

Even if this was just a scheme to build a database, it is going to be with people you would never want in a real business anyway.

-First off shooting off ones mouth without ANY idea of what they are spewing or any way to back it up is sheer Ignorance.

-Second off The products are totally resalable in the form of a membership. The Training (not old recycled stuff but new relevent and working stuff)are all available to members alot like a country club you pay your membership and you get use of all the facilities

_Retail: Memberships to an educational platform (think udemy), whih also happens to have lot’s of tools

-Third in case you have not noticed, There are many many people on the web who want to make money and it is not a bad thing to provide them the opportunity, Included in their membership

Thanks for your 2 cents worth (although that is debatable) but the rest of us will be learning and Earning.

BTW some knowledge in life etiquette might help you since most people don’t spout off about that which they know nothing.

As for the cut and runthere will always be those that cant recruit yet they can earn the money after the 45 which comes back, will pay for the matrix the wowners will profit from their downline like the rest of us.

Bonnie you are in dream land. You actually think 25,000 people signed up in 5 days because they want online training audios.

There are no customers. Nobody cares about the product.

Do you know that Val Smyth and his 2 partners are making $35 per month off all of you. Do the math. If half the pre signups pay to become full members the Val and his scamming friends will split $437,500 per month not counting the rollup comp plan pay.

If you make any money take it quick before the FTC shuts this one down quick. I am going to send the FTC a message tip about this scam myself.

There really aren’t to be any winners except for Val and his merry men. Not only are they making $35 per sucker, I am pretty sure they have the top 3 or 4 levels of the matrix too. Everyone else maxes out at $2400 a month. It’s amazing people are getting excited about those numbers. Since no one can see the matrix until they fork over their $90, imagine whats going to happen when 80% or more of the suckers have no one in their downline or not nearly enough to cover the $90! I can already hear the rings of credit card chargebacks! Ring ring!

Where did that trailer park Rebecca woman disappear to. I quess she gave up on behindmlm and is continuing on to her new found ponzi scheme.

I have a hard time believing any merchant account services would let these guys use them for hundreds of thousands of dollars worldwide. The fraud will be incredible and chargebacks will be huge because they are saying you have to pay the 89.95 before you see the matrix.

OMG can you believe the chargebacks after that when they see very few in their downline because of all the top held by the 3 owners and a few of their cheerleaders. What people will do for money. Sell their souls and reputation.

No one knows how they will get paid yet but they do know they pay with visa or mastercard. At least they r building a huge list for their next ponzi scheme.

Don’t look for Rebecca Stevenson to redeem herself and do the right thing by backing out of this scam and telling her followers that she made a mistake.

Greed changes the way people think. Wishful thinking takes over where critical thinking should step in. Wishes become facts. Skeptics are called idiots for not jumping in. Desires become their reality.

When we state the facts about this scam, we are deemed rude and unfriendly.

Scam artists know how greed works. All it takes is one well known con man to get all of the greedy Rebecca Stevensons on board.

Rebecca Stevenson:
Hmmm perhaps because nothing has launched and distributors have to be in place to build a company before there is a company.

You find sales people before you can sell anything. You hire office staff before you can open an office. No store owner has anything for sale without first having people to stock, run the registers or purchase products.

Right now this is a prelaunch. Attacking before something even launches is ignorant.

No one is paying a penny until they know what they have. People who want to work it after all has been revealed will stay and those who do not want to will go.

I will be with this company either way. I will learn all I can for as long as I can.

You know you are getting old when you see the same thing over and over.

This program reminds me of a couple that popped up about 5 or 6 years ago. I cannot remember the names of them, but they would show the single powerline filling up fast. When you crunched the numbers, it was worth a laugh.

You do have to commend them for the marketing side of it all. These guys are building a list faster than snot. I think I will keep my money for the time being.

The education is ongoing.. new content will be created monthly from various top leaders within the whole industry as well as brick and mortar leaders, highly successful and recognized people… the retail price of THAT is $89 per month.. be a customer as many months as you wish.

Then there are those who want to consume THAT product for $89 a month AND make money so, in order to activate one’s distributorship all one must do is refer new retail customers at the retail price of $89 a month… when you do, YOU GET PAID as per the commission structure for distributors…. retail customers do not get paid, they only get the education.

And yes, there will be other products added as time goes by.

(Ozedit: Non-MLM comments removed.)

Hi Rebecca 🙂 You go girl and pay no mind to these scam-trolls putting others down to make themselves and THEIR scam look “good”.

It’s so funny seeing those comments. In fact, if you pull up The Legends Network in this site, you will see the exact same comments!

TLN started over a year ago with the EXACT same model! And guess what, no one learned anything! The audios are complete BS! You are kidding yourself that this is a real product, it is not!

But aside from that, there are some REAL problems facing TTO. TLN was a new division of a 15 year old company. There was customer service, merchant accounts, brick and mortar office, management etc. TTO has none of this.

There is no office. There is no customer service. They do not have a merchant account. And you are a fool if you think a merchant account is just going to let a scam like this go forward.

There will be tremendous restrictions if it does. They will hold the money for at least a month or more, limit the amount of transactions per month, probably just several hundred thousand dollars. But again, they have to be approved. And that usually requires an office. They don’t have one.

Since 90% or more of the signups will have no one in their downline, chargebacks will be through the roof. Who is going to handle that?

I predict this scam will never actually get off the ground. And it will quietly disappear. Val and Dave’s reputation will be ruined.

got this in an email today which I had nothing to do with. their powerline numbers are bogus when they are inputting people from abcmarketing what a scam this is.

Congratulations! Your order is now confirmed as successful and will begin.

Thank you for your Guaranteed Signup Marketing Pack lead order for the Total Takeover home business program.

Your order was processed successfully by ABC Marketing, an email marketing company in Las Vegas working directly with the Total Takeover company.

IMPORTANT: as part of your order, you will be receiving a Marketing Pack via postal mail to the address you submitted on file with your order.

Your Marketing Pack was created to help you get the most out of your order with ABC Marketing and the Total Takeover program.

Your Pack includes:

• Training resources to help you maximize your earnings in Total Takeover
• Support resources to allow us to help you
• Marketing resources to help you with prospecting and future lead generation
• Details about how your Guaranteed Signup email lead fulfillment works
• Frequently Asked Questions
• Special VIP Status with ABC Marketing – allowing you first choice on any new lead offers

ALSO IMPORTANT: you will receive a notice from Paypal that your Marketing Pack is on its way, with this note:

“Your package from ABC is on its way. You can track it online using this tracking number.”

Your email leads will begin to come in within 48 hours, as we now prepare to start the email campaigns. You will be able to track your email leads by logging into your Total Takeover back office and clicking on Contact Manager.

Remember, every lead we create for you is email-only to begin with, but is also given the option to add their name and phone if they choose; as a result, your leads may include a combination of both.

Every email lead HAS pre-enrolled into the program under you and has come from our private database of home business entrepreneurs, making these excellent candidates for building a successful team.

Every lead will be listed in your Contact Manager with the tag: “ABC-Co-op”, so that you know they came from us. You will receive a total of 100 fresh leads over the course of several weeks.

On the 26th, when Total Takeover launches, we will begin emailing your 100 leads daily, until 1 or more of them upgrade by paying their activation fee. This is how you begin earning in the program.

From what I can see, TLN is still going strong. 90% of their business was overseas anyway, as is most companies today. Jenesse, which is on track to be a billion dollar company, does only 3% of their business in the US.

I think the reason for this is that US distributors cannot stay focused in one company for very long. That is because of all the scams like TTO offering something for nothing. No on in the US wants to actually work anymore. This netWORK marketing, not netFREE marketing.

Free programs have NEVER worked, EVER! I think LSN was the latest one. They had over 100,000 free signups at launch day and no one upgraded. Same will happen with TTO.

I am pretty sure that Val and Rebecca were working on TTO long before December. That is why they were terminated.

I think TLN is still going strong now that they have added a real product to the mix, and it appears to be very good. And they are no longer promoting the audios. Time will tell, but TLN is part of a 15 year old company, and that definitely says something these days. That is no easy task.

They should probably change their name though.

I would bet that TLN will be around long after TTO bites the dust. Which is going to be spectacular BTW. I can hardly wait to see what happens on the 26th. LOL!

I’m guessing you guys haven’t seen the TTO products page, it’s says “Powerful 2 Stage Marketing System” I said SaaS as an abbreviation.

I think 10% would be a good amount of people to pay up, more would be nice but I’m not expecting it.

I think we could be in for a disappointment with TTO as with many pre launches, I’m hoping not.

I think Kannaway failed because they didn’t have pure CBD oil, that’s what everybody I knew involved thought we were getting. I made money in kannaway before I dropped out because there was no pure CBD…

And what, SaaS is so awesome Total Takeover don’t even mention it by name?

In any event, as I said affiliates are getting paid to recruit new affiliates and retail is added only as a token of pseudo-compliance. Adding ass marketing to the equation doesn’t negate recruitment commissions.

I think Kannaway failed because they didn’t have pure CBD oil, that’s what everybody I knew involved thought we were getting. I made money in kannaway before I dropped out because there was no pure CBD… jeremy green

so, you left kannaway for it’s ‘impure’ products and latched on to TTO for it’s um, ‘high quality online garbage’ products?

Orrr, did kannaway recruitment go belly up, and you hitched a new ride with TTO?

I am trying to understand why everyone is excited about that comp plan. In the best case scenario, if you get 4 who get 4 who get 4 and so on through 7 months, you would only be earning around $8000 a month.

In that example, you would have over 21,000 people in your organization with a monthly revenue of almost $2 Million!!! I’m sorry, but if I was doing that much in volume per month, I would expect to be earning 10x as much! What am I missing?

And that is only if distributors pass up 2 good people which we all know will never happen. In fact, 70% or more will never sponsor a single person.

Anyone that thinks they are going to get “spillover” are going to be in for quite a shock come Monday. LOL!

As a pure money game, which is all TTO is, the compensation plan is quite awful.

I have read so much here from unqualified people judging other without any hesitations.

For education you pay a price and those who do not believe it go and find out the hard way. Spend many more years before you have learned you are a loser.

Sorry to say but I think that TTO has all the good things it takes to be successful. The PP1 is a simple 2 tier affiliate program which makes it even better for those who join to get educated because of the PP2. But nobody has ever said that people will get a full Matrix and that they have to do nothing.

This will only work if people work on it follow up and support their direct members to achieve their goals.

Not that complicated to get 4 people who are willing to learn and earn.

But most comments here are done by those who believe they know it all. Well folks long way to go for you.

I for myself have agreed to myself and with many of my friends that YES it is time for a TOTAL TAKEOVER.

Without a real retail product it’s just a ponzi and should be shut-down asap. Unfortunately the organisers will make their money and just start up another scheme again in another 6 months (they’ve probably already thought of their next one).

Val Smyth rreated Mentors in Motion Makers of Millionaires MIM ($499.00 one time fee, some packages were higher $1499)

Then it started to DIE as nothing was new he was teaching.

He then created MIM Online Magazine ($49.99/month)- You got it, audio recorders of some killer Leaders in the industry.

This sucked, and didn’t take off.

He then created a HIGH Ticket program called PCN – Prosperity Cast Network ($999.99) included all the audio recordings that were never done, LOL

Val Smyth then started a few mlm, Visalus, diet pop suckers, healthy coffee, newtronics and probably a few others.

Then him and bob bremneir launch the TLN – The Ledgends Network ($89.99 a month), you guess it, audio recordings and trainings once his relationship with BOB fell apart. Val had to do something. He had all this audio training and no where to sell it.

So the TTO – Total takeover was born.

Do you see the trend. Usually in a real business, if a business model FAILS TWICE, then move on, why does he create the same program over and over again (4-5 times)

Doing some research on this TTO thing. Is this the same crew that was behind Untold Trade Secrets (UTS)?

I stumbled across this video. Not sure if TTO is entirely on the up and up legitimate?

Seems to be a lot of rehashed stuff that’s already out there for free.

Seems to me from the previous postings and the additional research into these prior opportunities that these guys have been running, they don’t have a track record of longevity in their business plan.

I hope this is not another cut and run like the rest.

Please let me know what quality of training is in the back office, and if it’s really worth $89 per month. I’m currently finding very high quality training and interviews with real business owners right now by searching podcasts.

IS THIS WORTH THE MONEY? Or is it just a money game? I have yet to meet a legitimate business owner willing to attach their name to this company.

Ok, I went to the webinar again and I’m more confused than ever. Is there a product?

I don’t really see anything there except for the vague claims of training. Are there demos or a trial access to the system? Actually an outline of what we really get would be nice, rather than the hype about getting rich.

Without a real retail product it’s just a ponzi and should be shut-down asap. Unfortunately the organisers will make their money and just start up another scheme again in another 6 months (they’ve probably already thought of their next one).

Why are they getting people to do wire transfers? This sounds a little risky on the part of the buyer. Is it to reduce chargebacks?

My worry is that the accounts will be frozen and no one will ever see any of the money in their TTO wallet. Something seems a little of here.

It all makes sense now. Keep the product digital, or lack thereof, tell everyone they will hold commissions for almost 60 days, get people to pay with wire transfers, sell crap lead packages that were probably scraped in the first place, then cut bait before bank accounts get frozen.

Credit card charges are subject to chargeback, which can be disastrous for a fraudulent operation.

Not only does the credit card company reverse the charged back amount, it imposes an extra fee if the reason given by the complainant falls within certain categories, such as fraud or goods and services not as described

In addition, too many chargebacks leads to an automatic suspension of the providers’ ability to use the CC companies’ services, something that can cause irreparable damage to the credibility of the account holder.

Which brings us to the reason so many of these unregulated, shady operations use payment processors or third party debit/credit card providers

These guys charge higher rates to “get-rich-quick” operations and have strict “no refund” policies, knowing full well chances are they are going to be on the receiving end of multiple chargeback requests

The old saying “high risk, high return” was never truer than when applied to the “usual suspect” payment processor and third part debit card providers

1. He taught his students to NEVER, I said NEVER join a Prelaunch company

2. Join a business with 5-10 year proven track record

3. Companies that grow so fast will IMPLODE, because they are not ready to handle the influx of business.

So Val Smyth with Total TakeOver is (and please fill in the blanks)

1. Has people starting not even a Pre Launch, but a FREE LAunch. Teaching #1, flushed down the toilet

2. This business opportunity recruiting game is 3-5 weeks old. Teaching #2 down the toilet

3. TTO grew really FAST in FREE launch, in the sense of a company. 160,000 people, now we all know 95% of leads and email where uploaded into the system to manipulate people. Nothing was ready, not the website, not the training modules, they are using GVO webinar room, not even Go To Meeting, iphone and ipads cant watch.

Teaching #3 down the toilet.

TTO Implodes should be another headline.

If i missed any points from Val Smyths trainings please post.

I did find sales pages and Clickbank pages for the MIM Seminar. So people are still selling his audio seminar, I bet he doesn’t even know.

Oz: It is positions in said compensation plan that are being purchased, with the ongoing fee serving only as a qualification to receive ongoing commissions paid out directly of the fees paid by recruited affiliates.

The education is ongoing.. new content will be created monthly from various top leaders within the whole industry as well as brick and mortar leaders, highly successful and recognized people… the retail price of THAT is $89 per month.. be a customer as many months as you wish.

Then there are those who want to consume THAT product for $89 a month AND make money so, in order to activate one’s distributorship all one must do is refer new retail customers at the retail price of $89 a month… when you do, YOU GET PAID as per the commission structure for distributors…. retail customers do not get paid, they only get the education.

And yes, there will be other products added as time goes by.

Andrew Are you aware, and I am sure you are a heavy hitter in Total TakeOver, are you aware, Val Smyth, has done.

So that’s what you are paying $90 a month for!Audio interviews you can listen to for free online.

I give TTO 30 more days at the most.

Uh… not even sure how to comment here. The webinar makes it out to be some amazing “training that will give you the knowledge to build a 6 figure income with your eyes closed”, and yes that is a quote from one of the conference calls.

They also say “It’s a license to print money”, if you can believe that. I guess if you are one of the three guys at the top you really don’t need to print money because people are wire transferring it directly to them. I honestly cannot believe people would think that would be a smart thing to do.

I think they need to create a real product before launching a business. I’m just not sure how they can say with any honesty, that they offer something that is revolutionizing the industry.

I did check out the audios at freelegendstraining. Yep, that’s what they were selling in the last deal.

Not sure why I would pay for it again, especially when it’s online for free.

On another note: The audio quality of these interviews, free or not, is garbage. Sounds like a chicken squeaking through an old land line telephone.

If people want real world business training tips and strategies that are current, and not rehashed from 1997, do a search on iTunes or any other podcast search engine.

There are literally dozens of very highly rated podcasts dedicated to topics such as Social Marketing, Web Development, Lead Generation, List building, and the list goes on. These podcasters are very professional audio productions that know their topics.

Save your $89l.95 and look into the countless quality training podcasts on iTunes. You’ll learn more and save a lot of money in the process.

WOW, LET ME SAY WOW. Now they have $5 trial for 14 days. What a freakin SCAM.

2 weeks ago, Val something of a QUOTE “This isn’t a dimes and nickels program” So it starts out that $89.99, then they realize non of the FAKE people aren’t paying and those poor people that actually paid, NOW Val is Already DECREASE the value to $5.

Congrats VAl you did it again. In 2 weeks. The new deal will be launched and TOTAL TAKOVER, will be free when you buy into his next deal Ultimate CRACK OVER.

I was out of town for 5 months and when I got back, a friend of mine had joined and was very excited about it and talked me into joining.

The biggest mistake that I made was, not checking it out before I joined and paid 89.95. I also purchased their leads package that sells for $149.

When I realized that TTO was a scam and their leads package was totally bogus. Told my friend about it. He too was introduced to TTO by a friend and had not bothered to check them out either before he joined in Jan and had also purchased their leads package which was $99 at that time.

A lot of these leads that they were sending had no names and e-mail address were bouncing back failed delivery.

I contacted ABC and requested a full refund which I got back after telling them that I would file a formal complaint with Consumer Protection agency, The F.T.C and the F.B.I Internet Fraud unit.

I also sent in a support ticket requesting a refund from TTO.

After 6 days and no response I sent a 2nd request stating I would file a complaint with the agencies listed above.

That same day I received a call from a woman called Jordan stating that she would like to resolve this. I told her I want a refund ASAP and to cancel this account ASAP. She then said you can cancel your account in your back office.

I told her no because you want me to agree to the No Refund Policy after 5 days which was not there when I joined TTO in Feb.

She then stated that she would mark my account inactive and refund my money but it would take 15-20 days to get my refund back because it is an international transaction.

I told her it didn’t take 15-20 days for you to take my money.

She lied, my account is still active. So the fight is on!

Here is the number that I got a call back from: (Ozedit: removed). The person name is Jordan at support.

They will not be there when you have to face all of your friends and family as they wave pitch forks in your face because you talked them into spending their kids lunch money on a spillover pipe dream.

Secwatchin:
To think dave Lear called me a loser last January, because I called out his scam as something that will fall apart very quickly.

This scam died just as I predicted it.

Loser… LOL!

Imagine that… resorting to name calling when someone doesn’t want to be scammed. Sounds very much like modern politics, and that’s obviously working well.

Unfortunately, the masses are sheep. They will believe anything and everything as long as you dangle a big carrot in front of their face.

The definition of marketing according to TTO:

The art and science of deceiving and manipulating another human being based on their needs, but with no regard to their future well being, only the hip city bank in my back pocket as the seller of an inferior product.

Myabe Dave Jones should reveal who he is – Blair Bremner or on facebook he is crossdresser Tia Andrews fake profile- here is the Bremners.

Robert Bremner was convicted by a jury of four counts of willfully evading income taxes and sentenced to eighteen months imprisonment.

For the tax years at issue (1993 through 1996), Bremner received compensation as a sales representative for Consumers Buyline, Inc., and Health Technologies Network [these were pyramid schemes , bob bremner floated before legends network and nutronix].

Robert “Bob” Bremner apparently passed his passion for prison to his offspring Blair Bremner…

Virginia State records have some interesting domestic violence/ assault charges on the kid. How low can a man be when he has to beat up on a woman He too was sentenced and spent time in the cage. Richmond Virginia Criminal Court.

David Bremner is the family pawn for registry ( business and online ) Bob Bremner would rather sacrifice his offspring then go back to Prison for illegal conduct.

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