Send them Back?

A police officer interviews a group of Haitian migrants after they were apprehended in the Miami area October 29, 2002. About 200 Haitian migrants jumped off a dangerously overcrowded freighter grounded off Key Biscayne, swarming onto a busy bridge with some trying to persuade passing motorists to help them elude border patrols.

Would you send them back to Haiti, or let them start the INS process of being admitted?

If this lot had been a boatload of Afghans or Iraqis coming via Indonesia they would immediately claim refugee status and at that point would qualify for UNLIMITED legal aid to appeal the case all the way to our High Court.

They would have destroyed ALL forms of ID so that their identity is simply an unprovable claim of just who they are. MOST in fact are Pakistanis.

In the mean time they are housed (free) in camps, mostly in the outback with air-conditioning, Halal food, clothing, private family rooms, FREE phones to call home and arrange the next lot, play equipment for the kids, TVs, videos, and - wait for it - PLAYSTATIONS!!!!!!!

When they get the magic word of 'Refugee' after their name they immediately qualify for TIME UNLIMITED social security, first off the rank for public housing ( stuff the Aussies on the list for 8 years), and all the support programs available.

Australians are MUGS!!!!!!

:-(

John.

PS,

All of the above is in accordance with our "UN obligations" and "International Treaties".

Plus most Haitians are murdering thugs. Sorry, but my Brother-in-law just got back from their working on a fiber optic project and he had to have the US embassy get him out with security because of threats to his life by coworkers. The company laied off a few guys and they thought it was because of him. It was not a good ordeal. The place is a rat hole and I don't blame them for wanting to leave, but not here.

Ethics, Haiti is in a constant civl war - it wasn't long ago that there were US forces there trying to keep the peace - I believe it was back in 93? I remember I was a senior in HS, and I had many haitian friends who were very upset their relatives could not leave, yet cubans were allowed to leave.

The reason Cuban refugees get the help they do is because of the POWER cubans have in South Florida - everything is run by cubans here. They are extremely powerful politically AND economically. They are a very vocal group - they almost always get what they want. You can't turn on the television in Miami without being bombarded with news regarding Cuba - even on the English channels.

Trust me, I lived in Miami for 13 years, and you should hear my husband's family talk.

It is NOT incumbent on the U.S. to take in refugees from every shithole 3rd world country. Cuba I can understand...or could 20 years ago. I was adamantly opposed to admitting Vietnamese refugees...any of them. The RVN's wouldn't fight the NVA, and that alone was more than reason enough.

Cheerist...when I was with MACV SOPS, we were trying to train them in Recon and all they wanted to do was ghost our asses and get down the road. Sorry, this is probably for another thread.

There are so many of these disease ridden, rathole 3rd world dens of squalor around the world. They all want to leave and come to 'cushy' countries and improve their lot. The U.S. is inundated, Canada is becoming inundated, Australia likewise. Enough already. Spain is putting up walls and fences, Italy is clamping down as is Germany. It's becoming an issue of worldwide pestilence.

The planet has become over populated...nature has a way of dealing with this. A purely organic and natural solution is most assuredly in the best long term interests of the species as a whole.

Of course, in the short term another timely solution would be to hit France with enough neutron weapons to erase the population, erect a great wall around the country and let any of these refugees that care to move there.