September 11th? Wouldn't count on it, not because it's too soon, but simply due to the significance of the date.

As for the testing... Just because we have beta, means we can't test 5.0.1? Are they going to ADD that content to the beta so we can see it, or are we just going to get stuck missing out on testing content? Because that's kind of unfair. I'm an Annual Pass guy, and I've regretted buying it for months now. And then this?

3 months til PTR is live @ 5.0.1 and 1 month following for MOP, so 4 months

3 months is not "Right around the Corner." They wouldn't be announcing 5.1 coming to the PTR soon if it was 3 months away, I'd put it at a month tops, and even that seems too far away for an announcement. What'd I'd like to ask is how long is a pre-launch patch on the ptr before it goes live, if any reasonable average can be deduced from past events. We already know that release is about 2 weeks after 5.0 is released on Live, so with a little math here and there, maybe we can come up with a better estimate.

So never mind, I realize he meant that the ptr stuff makes it onto live, as opposed to the ptr you know, coming out. Ignore my post

3 months is not "Right around the Corner." They wouldn't be announcing 5.1 coming to the PTR soon if it was 3 months away, I'd put it at a month tops, and even that seems too far away for an announcement. What'd I'd like to ask is how long is a pre-launch patch on the ptr before it goes live, if any reasonable average can be deduced from past events. We already know that release is about 2 weeks after 5.0 is released on Live, so with a little math here and there, maybe we can come up with a better estimate.

Blizzard's blue post does not say "around the corner". It's OP's words. It does make a difference.

I'm absolutely baffled. You only have (after the schedule this week) 3 more bosses to test normal for the tier in 10m. You've announced the cinematic. Your beta is almost a finished game and it's playable. You're announcing ptr. Where on earth is the release date? Doesn't add up.