On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 12:16:54 -0700, Christopher Gwinn <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>I doubt they are related. Lleuddun is generally though to be derived from
>the Brittonic place name Lugudunon "Lugus-fortress", via a Neo-Brittonic
>*Loudin.
Thank you. I think Ifor Williams wanted to explain the word lleuddinyawn as being derived from 'the territory of Lugudunon' or words to that effect but I am thinking of the personal name Lleuddun (supposed to be a personage in the 6th century) is it conceivable around that time period to give someone a placename like Lugudunon as a personal name ( jokes about my own name aside :P )?
>If Irish Luguaedon- was borrowed early on, I would imagine that it would
>have given us medieval Welsh *Llywaeddon or, if borrowed before the
>diphthong -ai- became -oi-, *Llywoeddon.
>
>- Chris Gwinn
I wasn't so much thinking of it being borrowed from Irish > British so much as if it occurs as a personal name in primitive Irish I would have expected a similar personal name to be already native to primitive British - does this make any difference to how one might expect it to have developed?
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