Quick bit of advice.... get the Waze app and have it open constantly when driving. You don't have to put a route in to where you are going, just have it open.

It will alert you to the speed limits, some fixed cameras / popular police mobile camera spots / average cameras etc. It won't ever be 100% accurate so don't rely solely on it. However for that one new road you are on it may save you from thinking the speed limit is higher than it really is!

CynicalRobot wrote:Quick bit of advice.... get the Waze app and have it open constantly when driving. You don't have to put a route in to where you are going, just have it open.

It will alert you to the speed limits, some fixed cameras / popular police mobile camera spots / average cameras etc. It won't ever be 100% accurate so don't rely solely on it. However for that one new road you are on it may save you from thinking the speed limit is higher than it really is!

This. Excellent advice.

Sounds corny but as in the advert - drive the roads you do like the ones you don’t.

I shall try to adopt this ideology.

I did say try.

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Quick bit of advice.... get the Waze app and have it open constantly when driving. You don't have to put a route in to where you are going, just have it open.

It will alert you to the speed limits, some fixed cameras / popular police mobile camera spots / average cameras etc. It won't ever be 100% accurate so don't rely solely on it. However for that one new road you are on it may save you from thinking the speed limit is higher than it really is!

Was this one of those cases of a 'restricted road' - this happens a lot apparently. If you're in an 'urban' area with street lights, they don't need to signpost the speed limit as it defaults to 30, but people automatically expect a dual carriageway to be higher (I'd expect 40 as a minimum). There was a petition years ago to put 30 repeater signs up to warn people, but don't think it went anywhere. I think this is pretty bad when they then put speed camera's up.

Yep exactly this, there were no signs indicating the speed limit from when I turned onto the road until i got to the camera.

FYI it was the camera in bitterne Southampton, 3rd most prolific in the country.

The road you’re referring to is in a heavily built up area with housing and pavements on either side. I’m surprised you thought it would be 50mph. The lack of speed limit signs is a bit of a clue too.

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The numerous articles about these particular cameras suggest it is not completely obvious it is a 30.

I must admit, I was a bit disappointed that the BMW nav (or business nav, at least) doesn't display speed limits at all. On my Mercedes, even the old Becker Map pilot system used to display the speed limit for the road your on, it didn't use any camera but I think it was built in to the system.

A man charged with speeding has had his conviction quashed because a postal strike led to his notification letter being delivered too late.

Peter Gidden, 48, of Dodworth, South Yorkshire, received his letter two days late after a postal strike in 2007.

The law states that police must send notice of intention to prosecute within 14 days of an alleged offence.

On Thursday the High Court ruled that the conviction was not legal because the time limit had not been met.

Mr Gidden was caught on a speed camera doing 85mph (137km/h) on the M180 in Lincolnshire in October 2007.

But a backlog of mail caused by a postal strike at the time held up the letter sent by police.

'Matter of principle'

He received it after 16 days had passed.

Following his decision, Lord Justice Elias said the case was relevant to the current postal strikes and said the law may have to be revised to avoid similar issues in the future.

He said: "The authorities must adopt other means of warning, if they are to avoid the risk of late delivery.

"Alternatively, the remedy lies in the hands of Parliament by amending...the 1988 [Road Traffic Offenders] Act."

Mr Gidden had previously appealed against the conviction at Grimsby Crown Court and Scunthorpe Magistrates' Court.

The High Court quashed his conviction and set aside fines and legal costs totalling £680. They also wiped three penalty points from his licence.

His legal fees of £8,000 will be paid for from public funds.

"In a way this is a matter of principle", Mr Gidden said.

"Law enforcers have to work within the law to gain the respect of the general public."

I knew the guy, he worked on my old MR2 Turbo. He was lucky in that the postie that delivered the late NIP acted as a witness. I might be wrong but I don't believe the legislation referred to by the high court judge in the above article has been amended.