Good luck to her.I think she's had an awful upbringing, has tried to create the family she wanted, but failed, and is still doing it.One thing she has done, is been a parent, which the fathers of her children, have not.One of the reasons I stuck at an only was because I was terrified of being left again, and failing to give another child a 'proper' family.I don't regret it, it's a good thing that I just had one, but it's sad I think that I let exdp's failure as a father dictate that to me, and that I thought that we were less of a family.