Miki sure was determined in her earlier years to land that quad, but it seems like COP has killed this ambition. I thought the attempt at the 2008 GPF was breath taking and it's a shame that it received less value than a 3salchow would have.

Impressive! She definitely nailed it a few times. COP did make her stop trying it and now it is not clear she could ever get it to where she had it even when she did UR it. If she went for 4S and it was UR she would be judged on a 3S and then get less points than if she just did a 3S! That rule was modified but I don't think Ando would do it again.

floskate is right, that video is from the 2003 Japanese Nationals. You can download Miki's LP with the ratified 4S from the 2002 JGPF at FSVids.. And here's another 4S attempt.

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Thanks for correcting my mistake and thank you for those vids but actually this was neither Junior GPF nor Japanese Nats. There was written in description of the video that it was Junior Worlds 2002, though I'm not sure if it's right. If so, she would have had Firebird for three seasons - 2001-2002, 2002-2003 and 2003-2004 and it's rather unlikely (Worlds are always in the second half of the season, aren't they?). Second issue, I don't think it's the same as second clip because in the Japanese Nats clip Miki is smiling much more right after landing the quad (she's moving her hands in the same moment) than in the first clip. So maybe this is really Junior Worlds 2002 or the author made mistake in the description, this is here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi1331g-qcI What do you think? I think I will rename first quad to Junior Worlds and add Junior GPF.

It's definitely the 2003-04 Japansese Nationals. I just checked my video of the event and the board markings and ice markings are exactly identical to both clips. Also she has the exact same balance check and exact same underrotation in both the clips. The youtube clip you're referring to is wrongly labelled.

It's definitely the 2003-04 Japansese Nationals. I just checked my video of the event and the board markings and ice markings are exactly identical to both clips. Also she has the exact same balance check and exact same underrotation in both the clips. The youtube clip you're referring to is wrongly labelled.

Thanks for help. Where did you find whole Miki's skate from Japanese Nats 03-04? I suppose she landed there 3Lz-3L and 3T-3T so could you give me the link? I would add them to my vid with her triple-triples.

The clip is from 2003-04 Japanese Junior Nationals. I know that because they say so in the clip

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Could you check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I52FGRlAz64 ? Maybe they told if it was senior or junior so we know for sure if I repeated two the same quads in my video. Maybe the first clip of my vid is just junior nats and the second one is senior. So hard to know without help of native speaker .

Well, this year she could get a benefit from trying a 4S. Even if it's not full rotation she could get credit for a 70% quad, not downgraded, but only with the "<" which would get her more points than a 3S.

This is from 2003-04 Senior Nationals. I know because I was there and yes the clip says so. The medalists on the podium is another clue.

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Oh, that's right, I forgot that in the second clip there are Fumie and Shizuka on the podium as well as Miki! So the mystery is unfold . Now I can see that she really wanted to keep landind those quads after she got ratified with one at Junior GPF, just to prove to poeple and to herself that she was still able to land it. And we can see in the season 2003-2004 - four attempts at quad and I believe that senior japanese nats are right after junior ones so Miki pulled quad at one competition after another. She's impressive! I hope that with new rule about downgrading there is a chance Miki will go for quad in the future.

Tara did mention during COC that Miki and Morosov plannned on adding the quad later this season, but with just 4CC and Worlds left it seems doubtful. 4CC seems the most likely place for her to attempt it or perhaps WTT.

I am all for her adding the quad, but she has been so consistent this season with her planned jump layout, so at this point it would seem unwise to alter what is already working for her.

Maybe because she might possibly end up with more of a butt-eagle? I agree though, it would be nice if she could even do an extended inside edge spread eagle rather than all the posing in her LP. But, she has added transitions into her 2nd 3lutz and the 3loop over the last couple of seasons. If you look back to 2007 Worlds she didn't have a difficult entrance into any of her jumps.

Maybe because she might possibly end up with more of a butt-eagle? I agree though, it would be nice if she could even do an extended inside edge spread eagle rather than all the posing in her LP. But, she has added transitions into her 2nd 3lutz and the 3loop over the last couple of seasons. If you look back to 2007 Worlds she didn't have a difficult entrance into any of her jumps.

Maybe because she might possibly end up with more of a butt-eagle? I agree though, it would be nice if she could even do an extended inside edge spread eagle rather than all the posing in her LP. But, she has added transitions into her 2nd 3lutz and the 3loop over the last couple of seasons. If you look back to 2007 Worlds she didn't have a difficult entrance into any of her jumps.

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And she always does two three-turns before salchow, even is she tries a quad and that's look really nice. I remember that she had difficult entry to her triple lutzes in season 2005-2006 but she switched to simple entry when she started to train with Morozov. Tomorrow I will upload my video with her triple-triples and it can be seen there. I have a problem though because I can't open protocols with scores from competitions from seasons older than 2008-2009 ;/.