BMW teams up with Solid Power to develop solid-state batteries for cars

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Automaker BMW is chasing that solid-state battery tech carrot, same as most everyone else in the industry. Today, it’s announcing a new partnership with battery technology company Solid Power to develop and commercialize the latter’s solid-sate battery technology for use in electric vehicles (see announcement).

Solid State already produces batteries made up of inorganic materials developed by the company specifically for the purpose, which can produce battery cells that have a higher energy density vs. their lithium-ion equivalents, which means more power and range from the same size battery, ultimately.

It also has benefits in terms of safety, length of useful battery life and operating conditions, vs. liquid-based batteries. Which all sounds great, but it still requires a lot of work to bring the University of Colorado Boulder spinout operation’s research into the realm of wide-scale commercial viability.

Which is where BMW steps in to help. The automaker’s resources and expertise can definitely accelerate Solid Power’s commercialization ambitions, and this joint effort will focus on sharing of R&D efforts as well, building on the extensive in-house work BMW has already done in the area of battery tech and electrification of vehicles.

Meanwhile, four teenagers in a circle look at each other, and the curly haired dude says, "...so, there's this car that runs on water..." And all the other kids laugh and pelt him with empty chip bags and crushed soda cans.

Meanwhile, four teenagers in a circle look at each other, and the curly haired dude says, "...so, there's this car that runs on water..." And all the other kids laugh and pelt him with empty chip bags and crushed soda cans.

Meanwhile, four teenagers in a circle look at each other, and the curly haired dude says, "...so, there's this car that runs on water..." And all the other kids laugh and pelt him with empty chip bags and crushed soda cans.

Meanwhile the curlyhaired kid buys the car that runs on water and the other three live with their parents until they're 30.

What developments are being made to charge these things? If coal power plants are still being used to provide the power to charge the vehicles, wouldn't this be less environmentally sound than an ICE with say 40+ MPG?

I think the charging is different in different countries. China is mandating a build out of infrastructure, in the US you may still charge at home. But there are improvements to fast charging as well as wireless.

wind, solar and such are all part of the plan. The key is the intermittent nature which needs to be stored so expect that to grow along the model offerings which donít really show penetration until 2025ish time frame.

What developments are being made to charge these things? If coal power plants are still being used to provide the power to charge the vehicles, wouldn't this be less environmentally sound than an ICE with say 40+ MPG?

I think the charging is different in different countries. China is mandating a build out of infrastructure, in the US you may still charge at home. But there are improvements to fast charging as well as wireless.

wind, solar and such are all part of the plan. The key is the intermittent nature which needs to be stored so expect that to grow along the model offerings which donít really show penetration until 2025ish time frame.

In most of our lifetimes we will be driving EVís.

If you want to get an idea of where our goverment thinks we should be headed with energy (not including DOT,DOE,DOA or NASA funding), take a look at what/where ARPA-E (DARPA's little brother) is spending (www.arpa-e.energy.gov). Lots of Li-Sulfur battery (Solidpower licensed it from Oakridge labs), CO2 coal fired emission reductions, smart power grid & power storage all lead you to think someone thinks EV's will be what we'll be driving.

Battery electric is the VHS (to laserdisc/betamax) of our generation (hydrogen vs battery electric). We screwed the pooch because we were cheap on infrastructure (no in place hydrogen infrastructure, versus extant power grid)

Battery electric is the VHS (to laserdisc/betamax) of our generation (hydrogen vs battery electric). We screwed the pooch because we were cheap on infrastructure (no in place hydrogen infrastructure, versus extant power grid)

Battery electric is the VHS (to laserdisc/betamax) of our generation (hydrogen vs battery electric). We screwed the pooch because we were cheap on infrastructure (no in place hydrogen infrastructure, versus extant power grid)

Do you know how much hydrogen cost to make? You literally have to freeze air. Air separation units are really expensive. So it’s not really about the infrastructure. The infrastructure is relatively cheap. The only thing hydrogen is better for is cold weather because batteries drain faster.

What developments are being made to charge these things? If coal power plants are still being used to provide the power to charge the vehicles, wouldn't this be less environmentally sound than an ICE with say 40+ MPG?

This is an interesting dialog. I don't know a ton about EV tech but with ICE having a 100+ year head start for refinement, EV will be playing catch up for a while. Looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.

This is an interesting dialog. I don't know a ton about EV tech but with ICE having a 100+ year head start for refinement, EV will be playing catch up for a while. Looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.

Google the specs on the Tesla roadster and compare to the most expensive super cars with Turboís carbon fiber

I'm curious to when EV or other tech can match ICE range/pricing and cold weather durability.
Till then I know where my $ will go......sadly I'm not exactly eco-friendly.....but neither are many corporations.

This is an interesting dialog. I don't know a ton about EV tech but with ICE having a 100+ year head start for refinement, EV will be playing catch up for a while. Looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.

Google the specs on the Tesla roadster and compare to the most expensive super cars with Turboís carbon fiber

The first rule of Bimmerpost is we do not talk about Tesla in EV forums.

Battery electric is the VHS (to laserdisc/betamax) of our generation (hydrogen vs battery electric). We screwed the pooch because we were cheap on infrastructure (no in place hydrogen infrastructure, versus extant power grid)

Do you know how much hydrogen cost to make? You literally have to freeze air. Air separation units are really expensive. So it’s not really about the infrastructure. The infrastructure is relatively cheap. The only thing hydrogen is better for is cold weather because batteries drain faster.

Yes your Infrastructure does cost money, but fast money article around electrolysis is not a solution. Back in day there was this little co called hydrogenics that tried to build out infrastructure... it was relatively low capex.

If you are interested in hydrogen. The industrial gas coís Have a lot of useful info on their website...thereís only a few large ones so you can read about that....