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Torres + Mascherano alone would/could cover that. The squad in 04-05 was worthless in comparison and few of those players went anywhere better or notable. Barely any actually turned a profit. That's why it's idiotic to point to Rafa's CL success in using Houllier's squad. He won the title despite most of the squad, not because of them. Few from that team actually stayed on and were useful - Gerrard, Carragher, Hyypia, Finnan, Hamann, Dudek and that's about it, really. Only 3 members of that side remained that came runner-up just a year ago.

Can we please get over the fact that regardless of the net spend, a lot of his buys were crap, the fact that they were sold off for whatever good value does not mask this fact. Not to anyone else anyway.

As I said, if all we wanted was a top 4 place, we already had a manager who practically assured that almost every year and we wouldn't have had to spend 8 million pounds in the process, downgrading our coach.

I didn't mind when Benitez left, and I still wouldn't if we had gotten a coach better than Roy. But the appointment of Roy symbolises a lot that's crap with the club and little that is good.

Yes you already had a manager who could guarentee that. Shame he was waving his cock to every chairman in Europe because your clubs a mess. Shame no one of equal skill would take the job, because your clubs a mess. Roys the only bugger in the world with a CV past '4 seasons on FM2010' who'll manage you, because your clubs a mess.

It was either spend £8m on a downgrade, or spend nothing, keep a coach who doesnt want to be there, watch the players performances get even worse because of it, and lose even more revenue as you slip down the league.

Now when your shiny new saviours take over the club, come back and talk about Pelligrini, until then, tough.

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