>vegetation doesn't cast shadows anymore>20 FPS>they have to release 50 demos to get feedback because they're too retarded to design the game themselves>developer made nothing but some of the worst JRPGs ever created the last 10 years>game is stuck in development hell>it looks bad, has an empty open world>laughable compared to GTA V in every way>combat is trying to be some kind of casual Devil May Cry>characters look like Hot Topic catalogue models, too edgy to wear two gloves instead of one, "emo" hair>takes itself seriously but mediocre looking people don't exist, even the mechanic is a generic bimbo model and looks childish and generic as fuck compared to every female NPC in Witcher, be it Yennefer, Ciri or Triss

Looking forward to playing the game but someone explain the hype, please. Not shitposting, just curious. Anyone even able to explain the hype?

>>297708367Except they've only released one demo and then an update to that one demo, with stuff they were already going to put into the demo in the first place but had to skimp out on due to shipping it three months earlier than their targeted release, that is why they released the update yesterday which was when they were originally going to release the full demo, and all the stuff in the demo update was stuff they were already working on, they didn't change anything based on "feedback".

>20 FPSWrong, they updated the demo and it has mostly 30FPS with only a few drops, again being a demo this is acceptable.

See above.

>developer made nothing but some of the worst JRPGs ever created the last 10 yearsThey've made some of the best in the last ten years, among them being TWEWY, KH2FM, BBSFM, Dissidia, Type-0 etc.

>game is stuck in development hellNo it isn't at all, it's been in full solid development since mid 2012.

>it looks bad, has an empty open worldNo it actually looks really good and isn't empty at all.

>laughable compared to GTA V in every wayThey aren't even the same type of game so this point makes no sense and has no bearing.

>combat is trying to be some kind of casual Devil May CryNo, it's an Action RPG in an open world with all your plethora of FF RPG elements from leveling, abilities, equipment, stats, weapon decks, magic, summons, and party strategy with gambit system, nothing like DMC.

>characters look like Hot Topic catalogue models"emo" hairNo they don't, they are all wearing expensive clothes designed by an expensive Japanese clothes designer

>>takes itself seriously but mediocre looking people don't existThe fuck are you even trying to say?

>Yennefer, Ciri or TrissYou mean even the actual well modeled female character in a JRPG shits on anything western devs have tried with their generic characters like those?

>>297710256More creativity, more variety, more potential, more movement. It has problems but these are fixable. It totally is better than Witcher's combat.I don't even hype XV, I'm not very interested in it for several reasons.

>>297710256Why are you posting demo 1.0 where the guy isn't even manually targeting? It's been updated yesterday you fucking idiot.

>>297710356>OK but why does this look like PS2 and has one texture for everything that's 100 feet in the back? So you've never seen a pS2 game before, fuck off, if anything Witcher 3 is a PS2 game, XV shits on it completely

>>297711173>anon wheres your image that prooves your point?It proves that even though XV is a demo it still shits all over Witcher 3, you cannot be this far in denial, XV looks better than Witcher 3 in all of those screenshots.

Have some screenshot with actual DENSITY, without actual DEPTH. There are so many different plants in Witcher 3, plants that also exist in our fucking life and grow at places that makes sense for their respective needs and nature.

It's interesting that FFXIV runs at 30/60 FPS on PS3/4 respectively and has detailed shadows and great lighting on everything.Now if only the clothing texture quality wasn't terrible than it would look better than 15

>>297711714>I play Witcher 3 on a fucking 200 bucks GPU and it runs atAnd? That image is comparing the PS4 version to PS4 verison, so your PC version is irrelevant.

>It has better lighting modelIt really doesn't, even on PC it doesn't.

>Better mesh qualityNow this is just baiting.

>less specular aliasing issuesOnly on PC, not on PS4.

> less fucked up reflections and cube mapping thanks to Polish magic. Nope.

>Even comparing both games shows how fucking retarded FF drones are these days.When that image proves that XV is superior it only proves that you CDPRshills are fucking retarded.

>And this guy proves FF drons are also never older than 12. Except you prove that you are underage and think cross dressing men are attractive women.

>Have some screenshot with actual DENSITY, without actual DEPTHOh look a PC screenshot which has no relevance in this thread when comparing PS4 games, the earlier image proves PS4 version of XV is superior to PS4 version of Witcher 3

>There are so many different plants in Witcher 3And even more in XV, you are just proving you don't know shit about fuck.

>>297712370>be Sony child>have no idea about Witcher and its lore>only game they can play is Witcher 3 and they have no idea about any of the characters>think a perfectly fine looking adult woman looks like a tranny because their standards and whole mindset is so fucked up due to Chinese comics and retarded child games>can't enjoy GotY of 2015My condolences.

Here you have an actual CD since you seem to love this kind of shit so much.

>>297712567>Because it objectively does.Stop posting, please. Even as someone who looks forward to FFXV I see you're talking shit. Just ignore bait and stop making Witcher fanboys hopping on the FFXV hate train.

>>297709575>Please please PLEASE BELIEVE ME! Final Fantasy XV will be the BEST game of this gen and will make the jrpgs rise again from their ashes, just as Final Fantasy XIII was supposed to do!

Are you fucking serious. The last trailer had this bunch of faggots taking a a fucking selfie, and you still believe his game will be good? I'll buy this shit 2 years after it's release in a bargain bin. Good luck sucking Squeeninx dick.

>>297712304>Don't even argue when you have no idea what the guy is talking about?Except I know exactly what I'm tlakin about while you keep shilling for CDPR and ignoring that this is about PS4 versions.

>The version that doesn't matter is your fucking retarded console faggot version.No, this entire thread is about a PS4 version.

>>297713160What games are we allowed to compare FFXV to? I know you people love to compare it to that Nintendo X game because you can actually win this thanks to the fact that the Wii U is so much weaker than the PS4 but is this fair?

When the fuck did these threads turn into Witcher 3 vs XV?I been enjoying stuff about both games because each do a lot of things well.Why the fuck does it need to go into some comparison battle in what game does what better?

>>297713479When FF children implied Witcher 3 women look like men (because women in FF always look like dumb 14 year old anime girls) and said Witcher 3 somehow looks worse which is... definitely a good joke.

>>297713346>have a fucking personalityI'm not involved in this argument, but no, the type of people who take selfies are exactly the type of people who are devoid of any personality, which is why they look towards the internet for validation.

>>297707451>Comparing anything to the unique shit GTA V was. Over-marketing your shit doesn't mean is good or decent. It means you depend on shoving your game up your customers' asses and cutting development costs.

>>297713532>we aren't allowed to compare PS4 games to PC games, graphics-wise simply because PS4 is so far behind and its games always look like shit>we must care about the shitty console version no actual Witcher fan ever cared about, specifically in PolandNo, fuck you.

Sooner or later he will start posting webms from 2014s XV build trying to go on about buggy water and grass shadows, and a webm comparing driving in GTAV to a purposely lowered quality vid of driving in XV

>>297707451"Hurrdurr I'm OP, I know the Demo is running on an old version of the engine and the FPS drop and errors were expected and it won't be an issue on the release, but I'm going to shitpost anyway so the ignorants believe me"

Yeah OP, whatever; the demo got a 8.5 score from players, even being an unfinished Demo.

FFXV literally looks like a brown pile of shit, W3 actually tries to look realistic and doesn't blur out the entire background, actually has fucking mountains that look realistic. And you know what? You can climb on them.

>>297713840>Why the fuck do all 5 of the protagonists suck so much? None of them are even the slightest bit of likableExcept all of them are more likable than Geralt the generic self insert manly character for neckbeards.

>>297713857>we aren't allowed to compare PS4 games to PC games, graphics-wise simply because PS4 is so far behind and its games always look like shitNo, it's because to have a fair comparison you compare like with like, stop being a fucking CDPRshill.

>people complaining that it's going to be "tech demo - the game">not realizing that's how games progress: more new games coming out, increasingly pushing the limits of the console

Not gonna lie, it still shows almost nothing substantial of the gameplay and I think it will be kind of empty, to be honest. But this is just another step in videogames. They focused too much on graphics, so what? Another developer will try to push the boundaries to and maybe make an even better game. And no, I'm not going to buy this, but I would support the devs if I had extra money.

Let them do things, experiment. Don't complain that a game isn't a perfect gem specially handcrafted to you. If you don't want to buy it, don't, but at least stop saying it's a piece of shit that shouldn't be supported.

Inb4 fanboyism, I stopped buying FF games after X-2 (and even this one only had gameplay to show). 13 was a fucking catastrophe.

>>297713679>And? And? And?Then please enjoy your magical adventure with nippon's backstreet boys. I've seen some uncanny valley shit, typical jrpgs heroes with giant swords, but nothing will beat how fucking odd and uncanny was to see these bunch of pseudo-realistic fags in drag beating gigantic monsters. And worst of all, seeing Noctis battle is weird since he doesn't even know how to swing a sword. It's like i'm having a nightmare where KH became Final Fantasy.

>laughable compared to GTA V in every wayHow exactly is it better? You can't compare a demo to a full game. Also what's comparable between this and GTA V?

>takes itself seriously but mediocre looking people don't exist, even the mechanic is a generic bimbo model and looks childish and generic as fuck compared to every female NPC in Witcher, be it Yennefer, Ciri or TrissDo you even know what generic even means?

>>297707451So.. its XIII all over again.>PcFats before and while releaseITS SHIT LOOK AT MY COPYPASTA!>PcFats when port gets anouncedWow it looks awesome! Hurr durr 4k!>PcFats when port gets releasedYOU LIED ITS GOOD! MASTERRACE WINS AGAIN

>>297715082That's an old bullshot and XV looks objectively superior to it in every way, and also has more verticallity because there is airships and actual aerial combat, also there is also collision detection on the cars, trucks and rocks too unlike XCX.

>>297715176nigga if you like etrian odyssey play Strange Journey right fucking now. right now. do it you fucker. And if you liked older Final Fantasy games play Digital Devil Saga, it's an SMT take on more standard JRPGs

>>297715575Aren't faggot here saying W3 is supposed to be superior in every aspect?. How can it have bad looking scenes?If course if you use some lighting and sharpening everything can look less shitty.

>>297715575>>just pictures of flying things in the skyNo, that is a red zone construction site, where is anything like that in Witcher?

That is a modern metropolitan city with airhsips invading it, where is anything like that in Witcher?That is a renaissance fantasy kingdom with airships invading it, where is anything like that in Witcher

>>picture with the old fields we have in the demos just even brownerExcept that is a single shot of a canyon area

And you are still posting bullshoted PC build screenshots as if they mean anything to this argument.

All Witcher has is forests, caves, lakes, more forests, snowy mountains, small medieval villages and medieval towns, that's it.

XV already has all that and better versions of all that, plus more from volcanoes, mining towns, modern cities, renaissance fantasy kingdoms, sci-fi tech kingdoms, archipelagos, deserts, jungles etc

Just stopping by to remind you that you're all cancerous fucks who can't enjoy games even if someone paid you. Have fun doing literally nothing but shitpost about console wars till your mom kicks you out of the basement.

>>297715782I seriously hope you aren't serious, that's just a generic medieval town by the water, not even remotely as creative as a fantasy renaissance kingdom with massive waterfalls and water bridges

>>297716226Who cares about variety when it's terribly handled and the game around it is bad? Eeven FFXIII has lots of variety, didn't make the game less terrible. And FFXV actually looks like 90 % of its world are those fields and boring forests we've seen.

>where is anything like that in WitcherWitcher isn't supposed to have anything like that.

>>297707451>it looks bad, has an empty open world>developer made nothing but some of the worst JRPGs ever created the last 10 yearsSubjective>laughable compared to GTA V in every way>combat is trying to be some kind of casual Devil May CryThe fact that you are comparing FFXV to either of these two games is sad, apples are not always better than oranges.>>297707451>they have to release 50 demos to get feedback because they're too retarded to design the game themselvesDeveloper feedback is a cool thing to see

>>297715836>FF kun they call you, no?The fuck are you even talking about? Why are you in such hard denial? It's pathetic how hard you post these irrelevant screenshots that prove nothing in your favor while shilling CDPR and then also Xeno.

>>bu-but its a demoExcept it is a demo which is why they havn't done optimization.

>yeah and you can see that the car can go throughWhat?

>its literally shit coding and you just making excuses to shill for them 4freeAre you seriously trying to act that because the bounding area of the demo was being exploiting, that bounding area that was only put in for the demo, that it somehow has any bearing on the final game? Fuck you are really delusional.

>>297716795The problem is you shitposting with "This game is doing some things other games have done, that totally means it's trying to be exactly like those games but failing so hard, FF fans rekt BTFO XXXDDD!".

>>297716529>Who cares about variety when it's terribly handled and the game around it is bad?Except it's not terribly handled, it's handled extremely well and the game is really good already.

>Eeven FFXIII has lots of variety, didn't make the game less terrible. XIII is not even remotely the same type of game as XV is

>And FFXV actually looks like 90 % of its world are those fields and boring forests we've seen.No, we've only seen a tiny few areas from the beginning of the game which doesn't even make up 10% of the games world, and withing that less than 10% we've already seen modern city, mining town, red construction site, renaissance fantasy kingdom, meteor impact site, forests and fields, mountains, snowy trains, gas stations, hayseed rest points, highways, etc, this is less than 10% of the games world that we've seen so far.

>Witcher isn't supposed to have anything like that.Because it's just a generic boring forests, fields and mountains, that's all Witcher has.

>>297717615>You guys are getting mad as fuck over the most trivial shit.

where do you think you are? of course /v/ is going to get mad at trivial shit. you think people here actually want to discus video games?

of course not! they would rather complain that a slice of pizza found in a video game has 6 slices of pepperoni rather than 7. or that the pizza has pepperoni in the first place. or that theres a pizza in a video game instead of a slab of steak.

>"The Witcher 3 has better gameplay!">"No it doesn't. The combat from the demo seemsmore complex and interactive than what TW3 has shown and m-">"Who cares, the graphics and fps are shit!">"But they aren't. In the new 2.0 version they fixed quite a couple of issues and improved both of those things. You can clearly see in this picture th-">"Fucking FF faggots!"

Why do Witcherfags have such an inferiority complex over Final Fantasy?

>>297717721What is wrong with you FF drones? Do you watch at pictures like this and just COMPLETELY ignore everything negative? Everything that is 20 feet away looks like fucking shit. Do you even notice the terrible LOD? Do you even notice it? Check out the background for two seconds. This is PS3 tier at best. The rocks in the background look like they're floating in a green sky or something.

>>297714614>Why is the PS4 so weak? It's ruining gaming ;_;What you should've said is "The consoles have games that look worse than good PCs". The PS4 is in no way ruining gaming just because the graphics look a little bit worse and without the PS4 the X-Box One would still be holding back visuals. Heck, even with no consoles the visuals would still not be top notch on all of these games because developers wouldn't see a reason to make the games look amazing for the select few that have very expensive pcs.

>>297717294the problem being it's trying to many things at once but not lessering the flaws of them all. The combat is more casualizd than you typical hasck slash not really leaving space for creativity and devoid of any challenge, the set ups dont really bring a variable playstyle and grwoth doesnt seem that important in the way you want to advance your character (for now). The open world sufferes from the typical flaws of openworld, empty space with little to do random encounters sparced and not having the graphical power to sustain what they are trying to do. The rpg elements seems to be little outside stats and status and the mp and phantom system makes this easy as fuck.>i-it j-just a demoAnd we have to criticize it right now instead of waiting for it to be out.

FFXV looks good at night, daytime only looks alright most of the timeI love the demo, but it still doesn't look that great at least the demo areaIs it that hard to admit?The way bigger problem ist framerate and the combat stil needs a lot of improvement

Xenoblade 2 looks better than XV due to better art direction and better gameplay in the world (actually wants you to climb and fly to floating islands and shit). GTA V looks much better than FFXV, modded Skyrim does as well, some Ubisoft games, too. Then comes FFXV which looks decent for PS4 standards.

>>297718396>Can't you just see that fucking everyone hates you and your gay FF and that it simply looks bad and plays like shit?You are the only one getting worked up over it while everyone else is calling you a faggot and CDPR shill, go back to your crossdressing "women".

>and that it simply looks bad and plays like shit?Except for it looking better than those and playing better too.

>>297719316>And XV has more>XV more kinds of plants than Witcher 3My god, just stop posting. CDPR actually has some actual botanists who work on the wild life in Witcher games. FF just has the same kinds of grass everywhere when it even has grass, mostly it's just a brown ugly texture.

Don't even know where you got those ugly W3 screenshots from looks like a glitched low settings save.

This is normal/high settings Witcher 3. Not even ultra, far from what you can achieve with mods.

>No need to post bad W3 screenshots since everyone who plays it can just negate your shitposting by posting good W3You mean you are ignoring those screenshots by posting irrelevant PC build screenshots that have nothing to do with this thread?

>>297719316I've hyped up FFXV/V13 since it was annoucned and i love the demo, but dude it doesn't look that greatIt has some areas that look pretty good, but the LOD and draw distance is awful even in 2.0, there's no AAIt has some good lighting especially at night, the animations are good and the character models look greatBut it's far from a good looking game unless you ignore everything 10 feet away from youAnd it doesn't help that the performance is still really bad even if it's a demo, the engine is just not suited for fast paced games, at least on consoles if it wants to look amazing at the same timeThey should really tone done on some effects and maybe even resolution and focse more on steady frame and improving the combat a lotIt can look like the best game ever that won't help if ti runs and plays bad

>>297719924I will when it's out on PC in 5 years (so when it's also out for PS5).

Now do yourself a favor and stop shitposting. FF probably has 20 % the kinds of different plants than Witcher 3, and they're probably all made up and don't even exist in real life.

I'm not even counting the actual ITEM plants in Witcher 3. You do realize that alchemy plays a role in Witcher 3 and that there are at least 50 different kinds of plants solely based on the alchemy mechanic?

>>297720535Have you played MMOs or W3? I played GW, Aion, WoW and I enjoy the W3 combat more than any of those. You actually have to parry, block, almost unlimited ways to approach your enemy and have to be careful. You can paly your very own way. Shitty webm showing me taking on an enemy that basicaly onehits me. I play like shit though.