tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post1382439634792304964..comments2015-03-03T19:37:50.794+00:00Comments on Brockley Central: Deptford primary school teacher slated over (inaccurate) '£200k' pay packetBrockley Nickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13002178846618300251noreply@blogger.comBlogger148125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-29806457928039559822010-08-04T10:40:38.932+01:002010-08-04T10:40:38.932+01:00Full circle. Mark Elms first went to Tidemill whil...Full circle. Mark Elms first went to Tidemill while still head at Gordonbrock - first Executive Head of a primary school anywhere in the country.Tressillianahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09874050117762682769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-3812370704101653372010-08-04T08:51:48.170+01:002010-08-04T08:51:48.170+01:00Another headteacher with two jobs....
As well as ...Another headteacher with two jobs....<br /><br />As well as being headteacher of Eliot Bank Primary School, Sydenham, Kathy Palmer is to become executive Headteacher of Gordonbrock Primary School.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-54353099462487997452010-07-18T10:30:08.582+01:002010-07-18T10:30:08.582+01:00That&#39;s right, multiple responsibilities are no...That&#39;s right, multiple responsibilities are not automatically a. Problem. The mayor of one of the the most important cities in the world writes a rather well paid newspaper column. I don&#39;t have a particular issue with that. <br /><br />By the way, can anyone cost what helping a child fulfill their potential would save? They may not be claiming benefit, committing crime and will pay taxes. Teaching ought to be well rewarded, instead we believe that it ought to be a vocation and only receive a deeply average wage? Teaching well is an investment that will benefit everyone, not just the sprogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-14897628233463654622010-07-18T10:04:08.953+01:002010-07-18T10:04:08.953+01:00Check up on Ted Purcell of the GMB and the number ...Check up on Ted Purcell of the GMB and the number of organisations he belongs to, that distract him from his union work for the lowly pay.<br /><br />Martin Powell Davies is employed as a full time teacher. His campaigning to be a leader of the NUT must affect his demanding work as a teacher. Or are other teachers burdened with his work load while he is away conducting union buisness?<br /><br />Our foul mouthed Mayor is on the Board of the New Local Government Network, Chair of Local Government Employees, was co-chair of a government task force, governor of a school, and other jobs while being Mayor.<br /><br />The people of Lewisham didn&#39;t find that a problem as they voted in their droves to put him back in power.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-40879928349164492832010-07-17T22:01:04.970+01:002010-07-17T22:01:04.970+01:00It is the doing two demanding jobs at once which r...It is the doing two demanding jobs at once which really gets me. <br /><br />I suspect, he has transformed the staff at Tidemill and they all work so hard and brilliantly that he doesn&#39;t need to be there. what are the chances of them seeing additional money for their outstanding performances?<br /><br />I imagine he leaves his porsche on the drive and cycles in. Which is fine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-55537772899282652102010-07-17T12:30:10.602+01:002010-07-17T12:30:10.602+01:00More on this, including a Brockley Central credit,...More on this, including a Brockley Central credit, here:<br /><br /><br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jul/15/metropolitan-lines-london-newsletter-housing-benefit-policy-effectsMezzernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-10955657821829508072010-07-16T18:03:20.234+01:002010-07-16T18:03:20.234+01:00&quot;To be fair £200,000 isn&#39;t much in London...&quot;To be fair £200,000 isn&#39;t much in London.&quot;<br /><br />Government stats for 2009 show a median full-time weekly wage of £627 in London, which equates to about £32k per annum. £200k is more than 6 times that amount. Therefore it is fatuous to say £200k &quot;isn&#39;t much&quot;. <br /><br />You&#39;re not the only person in Brockley who earns a lot of money, Hugh - just the only one vulgar enough to boast about it on here. I post on here regularly under a different name and I earn in excess of £400k per annum but that&#39;s the first and last time I&#39;ll say so (and anonymously at that) because I don&#39;t want to sound like that Harry Enfield character who couldn&#39;t help noticing that he was considerably richer than the people around him. <br /><br />£200k isn&#39;t offensive, Hugh - YOU are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-57918782106584965342010-07-16T16:02:33.503+01:002010-07-16T16:02:33.503+01:00&quot;Perhaps he was telling that kid the truth&qu...&quot;Perhaps he was telling that kid the truth&quot;<br /><br />Given the money he&#39;s on, i&#39;d expect a little bit more reluctance to give up on the possibility of a bright future for the primary school children in his charge<br /><br />Of course context is everything here and he may have been using it as a means to try and get the kid to do better, however given the perceived attractiveness of gangs and street violence/crime to impressionable young inner city children these days I think it would be a thing that&#39;s more likely to backfire rather than jolt the kid onto the &#39;right path&#39;<br /><br />Anyone know what the class sizes are like at the school? I&#39;m sure the city challenge money could perhaps have been better spent on a couple of other &#39;normal&#39; teachers to reduce class sizes and give the kids some more individual attentionlove detectivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-39732076617843453852010-07-16T15:28:08.611+01:002010-07-16T15:28:08.611+01:00Perhaps he was telling that kid the truth.
I ver...Perhaps he was telling that kid the truth. <br /><br />I very much doubt Mr Elms has no belief in the values of education. That is like accusing a fireman of not believing in the value of water.drakefell debaserhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15163789415343680863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-79994195003159511202010-07-16T15:16:06.283+01:002010-07-16T15:16:06.283+01:00forgot to say i am a parent and i have been very c...forgot to say i am a parent and i have been very cross over the last year...he was never there and the staff are shattered, one staff has recently resigned because of this.<br /><br />His bulling tactics and draconian measures surly should be questioned alongside his income. How can anyone do two jobs well?susiefreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-16537340997169837462010-07-16T15:04:22.842+01:002010-07-16T15:04:22.842+01:00i doubt that he is worth every penny, although he ...i doubt that he is worth every penny, although he may well be very good at crossing the ts and dotting the end of sentences...he recently told a child in his school that he was only going to grow up to be in a gang...i doubt that he believes in the values of education. The governors are in his pocket...they are the ones that decided to give him 85% of city challenge money rather than feed it back into the school. I am afraid what we are witnessing is &#39;the cult of an individual&#39; .susiefreenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-88818653019073114592010-07-16T13:32:09.081+01:002010-07-16T13:32:09.081+01:00@Anon 10:06
Where&#39;s your evidence he got paid...<b>@Anon 10:06</b><br /><br />Where&#39;s your evidence he got paid for being a head teacher which he did not do?<br /><br />Or are you like the GMB basing your thoughts on an assumption, without knowing the facts?<br /><br />It has been repeatedly pointed out parents are extremely pleased with his work and comittment to the school, as are the governors.<br /><br />There has been no suggestion he did not fulfill his role as head of the school or made demands regarding renumeration.<br /><br />Here we have a school that was crap and in special measures that has been turned round and all people can do is moan about a talented head being paid to show other schools how they can be improved.<br /><br />Oh, no this is Britain where the working class have to wear an inadequate education as a badge of honour so they can hold their head high as they stride across the threshold of the benefits office to a new dawn.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-54262377674891436912010-07-16T13:20:56.761+01:002010-07-16T13:20:56.761+01:00Hugh knows £200k is a lot of money. More than he e...Hugh knows £200k is a lot of money. More than he earns too no doubt - I don&#39;t believe half the crap he says. <br />He just posts these contentious opinions to get some attention, poor lamb.<br />Pity him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-44190123349099714912010-07-16T11:31:22.474+01:002010-07-16T11:31:22.474+01:00Right. So you&#39;re sticking with the &#39;being ...Right. So you&#39;re sticking with the &#39;being an cock&#39; thing are you?<br />Thought as much.<br /><br />You know full well what I meant. 200k is plenty - is that better? <br /><br />Actually sod it - you win. I&#39;ve got better things to do.Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-89149857396838104132010-07-16T11:10:15.089+01:002010-07-16T11:10:15.089+01:00I didn&#39;t say it&#39;s not ample. I said it isn...I didn&#39;t say it&#39;s not ample. I said it isn&#39;t very much in London. You don&#39;t do detail, do you?Hughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-42574928297578037312010-07-16T10:52:54.496+01:002010-07-16T10:52:54.496+01:00*sigh*
Very well...
£200k a year is ample - in Lo...*sigh*<br />Very well...<br /><br />£200k a year is ample - in London or anywhere else, as you well know.<br /><br />Feel free to scoff, claim you &quot;simply couldn&#39;t manage&quot; on such a paltry sum and call us all paupers.<br />Or, and here&#39;s a thought, perhaps try being honest?<br /><br />Go on, I dare you.Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-30303164048423786412010-07-16T10:32:33.792+01:002010-07-16T10:32:33.792+01:00I asked you.
Bluff called very easily, it seems!I asked you.<br /><br />Bluff called very easily, it seems!Hughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-26807760552392428962010-07-16T10:16:19.360+01:002010-07-16T10:16:19.360+01:00Now come on Hugh - you know the answer to that one...Now come on Hugh - you know the answer to that one already don&#39;t you?<br /><br />Think hard...Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-61239479679059225582010-07-16T10:10:10.080+01:002010-07-16T10:10:10.080+01:00M, what was idiotic about it?M, what was idiotic about it?Hughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-64349575715664347592010-07-16T10:06:01.529+01:002010-07-16T10:06:01.529+01:00@Anonymouse 1:30ish
1. He was not paid 200k to be...@Anonymouse 1:30ish<br /><br />1. He was not paid 200k to be a headteacher. He was paid £150k to be a headteacher, which he didn&#39;t do half the time and therefore got paid another 50k for not doing it.<br />A comparison would be someone who got paid £25k to be a traffic warden but then spent the afternoons being a lap dancer whilst still being paid to be a traffic warden and then demanded the council pay them more money for the loss of performance pay because they missed out giving out tickets.<br /><br />2. He does indeed seem to be very good at his job. But it&#39;s fair that unions who represent people earning a lot less can express their disappointment at the level of his pay package.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-83239857746169465062010-07-16T10:05:45.188+01:002010-07-16T10:05:45.188+01:00It&#39;s not remotely offensive Hugh - just idioti...It&#39;s not remotely offensive Hugh - just idiotic. Like most of your comments.<br /><br />Now get back to work son - those burgers won&#39;t flip themselves.Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-55597325501127218952010-07-16T09:51:20.394+01:002010-07-16T09:51:20.394+01:00Amusing the way this thread shows how Brox isn&#39...Amusing the way this thread shows how Brox isn&#39;t all that right on when it comes to money. I merely observed that 200K isn&#39;t much in London. If you find that offensive, I would suggest either getting a proper job or asking for a raise. The third option would be to explain why 200K is objectionable, but you won&#39;t be able to so I leave that out. Hope this helps.Hughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-37120718062383674382010-07-16T09:12:13.289+01:002010-07-16T09:12:13.289+01:00&quot;He was not paid £200K to be head of Tidemill...&quot;He was not paid £200K to be head of Tidemill&quot;<br /><br />where did I claim/suggest that he was?love detectivenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-66169295081925001352010-07-16T03:40:15.126+01:002010-07-16T03:40:15.126+01:00Hugh was unable to post here this evening because ...Hugh was unable to post here this evening because he was entertaining folk elsewhere.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGebmvnR158" rel="nofollow">Hugh laying down &quot;I Wanna Be Like Hugh - (Velocipede Boy Mix)&quot;</a><br /><br />It would be fair to say his toasting abilities are better than his tea making - and as for his dancing.....<br /><br />You will, of course, note that due to time constraints, Hugh was unable to change his clothes prior to this performance and is still wearing his cycling shoes, socks and shorts. Hugh also has this quaint idea that &quot;real&quot; lawyers wear tailcoats and he likes to wear one when he isn&#39;t at work. A very dapper look all round, i think we can all agree.neanderthal dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7319527081974340169.post-57687712664754262332010-07-16T01:31:51.828+01:002010-07-16T01:31:51.828+01:00@Love Detective
Despite knowing how schools are f...@Love Detective<br /><br />Despite knowing how schools are funded the GMB Union and their spokesman did not and do not regard the council figures as misleading.<br /><br />Regarding your points...<br /><br />1. He was not paid £200K to be head of Tidemill.<br /><br />If someone by day was a council Traffic Warden on £15K a year but at weekends was a lapdancer earning an additional £10K. <br /><br />It would daft to then say that person earns £25K as a Traffic Warden. <br /><br />2. Parents have praised the Head&#39;s work, governors have also pointed out he worked, evenings, weekends and holidays. They see or are aware of no problem.<br /><br />The role of heads has changed they are now called &#39;Executive Headteachers&#39;.<br /><br />An execuctive head may work across 2 or 3 schools. <br /><br />In this borough a federation was formed between the most successful secondary school and least successful. The head maintained standards at the successful school and significantly improved the standards at the other so that it is now oversubscribed.<br /><br />What is ironic is that a union complaining about the renumeration of a Head may have a union member employed at a school on full pay but who only works one day a week.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com