tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post6232810791543469488..comments2015-08-02T06:16:37.949-05:00Comments on Troll Racials are Overpowered: Rewarding explorationKlepsacovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-57445645891786597972009-09-29T02:10:45.109-05:002009-09-29T02:10:45.109-05:00As I am currently going through the new improved l...As I am currently going through the new improved leveling experience, the dislocation of the quest from the instances is painful...<br /><br />That said, I prefer the epicness of them...<br /><br />The week pre-instance spent gathering the components/completing the chains.<br /><br />A REASON to run the instance again apart from epic loot...<br /><br />I would almost be happy if doing the WoLK instances every day meant an evolution of the story line<br /><br />Word Verification: &quot;banging&quot; on about the Old worldgnomeaggedonhttp://gnomeaggedon.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-46637411547277900782009-09-13T17:14:46.705-05:002009-09-13T17:14:46.705-05:00@Stabs: WoW was made by old EQ players, from a tim...@Stabs: WoW was made by old EQ players, from a time when you&#39;d get 100 people and two people got loot. They were more used to the idea of helping others or just going along for the fun of it. Now we&#39;re more focused on what tangible virtual rewards we can get. And of course leveling is so fast that people outlevel the long chains, so we don&#39;t get lead to instances as much.<br /><br />@Corey Hunt: People are prone to rationalization, so when something costs more, such as time to complete a quest, we add value to it to justify the extra time. There is also the realism factor, that as a species we&#39;re used to things taking time, so when they are instant, they feel as if they cannot be real while those things which take time feel real.<br /><br />@Shintar: I was mostly referring to the randomness of the quest locations rather than the actual distance. Maybe the quest givers are a subtle commentary on the way people are more connected to the world, but also seem to care less. Or it&#39;s just a much more convenient way to design and play quests.Klepsacovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-52846478378668260242009-09-13T15:21:12.337-05:002009-09-13T15:21:12.337-05:00I like that you describe this as &quot;rewarding e...I like that you describe this as &quot;rewarding exploration&quot;, while most people would probably call it &quot;making you run all over the place just to artificially extend playtime&quot;.<br /><br />I have quite mixed feelings about the whole thing myself. I like how quests are more clustered nowadays as it&#39;s very efficient, but on the other hand quests that led you all over the world made everything feel more connected and real. It doesn&#39;t really make sense that every quest giver is *only* concerned with their immediate surroundings really. It makes the world feel more alive if you get the sense that even the NPCs have travelled, have histories and so on.Shintarhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-83027470492794291512009-09-13T13:20:33.769-05:002009-09-13T13:20:33.769-05:00I have been doing a lot of the old quests lately. ...I have been doing a lot of the old quests lately. There is some really good story there. I was in such a hurry to get to 80 while I was leveling that I would only skim the quests and abandon the ones that were too far. I missed a bunch of content.<br /><br />I got Loremaster of Kalimdor the other day and moved right on to the Eastern Kingdoms. This time I am taking the time to read the quests and do the chains in order. I am doing all of the dungeon quests, and I am enjoying it very much.<br /><br />I was in BRD yesterday all by myself just exploring and working my way to the Emperor&#39;s room. That instance is huge! I must have made that corpse run 50 times while I was at that level trying to get a group to finish it. Taking the time to do quests in there is very rewarding and interesting.<br /><br />I really noticed the difference with quest zones in Outland and Northrend and I am a fan of how they are organized, but there is something to say for the epic chains that have me going over both continents to get some line done. Like <a href="http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=3844" rel="nofollow">Linken</a>. Or interesting lore points like finding out that Bronzebeards heir is also the <a href="http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?wquest=4363" rel="nofollow">Dark Iron heir</a>.<br /><br />I don&#39;t know what my point is, other than sometimes I like the running around. Makes it feel more important somehow.Corey Hunthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13674154261620739301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-71268256312319070122009-09-13T12:03:58.459-05:002009-09-13T12:03:58.459-05:00Game design philosophy has changed hugely from 200...Game design philosophy has changed hugely from 2004 when most of this was implemented.<br /><br />I think the idea was it was ok to not all have the quest. Sunken Temple groups were often split about whether to do the downstairs bit - less loot but the fulfilment of 2 quests from Marlon.<br /><br />BRD was an extreme example of this. It was actually pretty rare to have everyone at the same point on quests as there were so many.<br /><br />I think the content was intended to last longer than it actually did.<br /><br />Tobold mentioned that in 2005 it took about 500 hours to get to max level on average. That&#39;s a year for a 10 hours per week player.<br /><br />I think they wanted it to last even longer than that.<br /><br />The longer it takes to level the more side trips and distractions you&#39;ll find. So what if a RFD quest is from Undercity? In the 2 months you were in your 30s you would have gone to Undercity several times.Stabshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.com