Why is the portuguese band BIZARRA LOCOMOTIVA blacklisted? They're one of portuguese most famous Metal acts, with 20 years of activity. They play Industrial Metal. I understand that you don't accept Industrial bands like Rammstein and such, but Bizarra Locomotiva are much heavier, they use Metal riffs, gutural voice and they can only be seen on stage with other Metal bands, including a participation in the biggest portuguese Metal festival, Vagos Open Air. If this isn't Metal, what is it?

Yeah dude, playing metal is what makes a band metal. And sorry but Bizarra aren't "industrial metal" by any means. In fact they're much closer to pure industrial than anything else. Sure they have some metallic moments here and there but they're all very scarce.

Well, Azmodes just proved my point. And there is far more industrial music than just that which you pointed out. Try hearing early Swans for instance, their first two albums will show you an entirely different side of the genre.

Alright, so following some further checking of their discography, Waste Disposal Machine will be deleted soon (thanks for mentioning them, I guess...). Electro/industrial with a few metal leanings on the EP(s?).

The Bizarra Locomotiva album I checked ("Álbum Negro") is indeed industrial and not predominantly metal. The same can be said for the song you posted, Dark_Forever. Unless their other releases are significantly different, they won't get in.

I blacklisted it because it was submitted multiple times without any proof. So now we see a CD. Where can we buy it? Send a link where a user can get it. Need to see that it's out and able to be purchased before it's considered a valid release.

Ok so "this band" called Agoraphobic nosebleed who used to have songs ranging from 5-30 seconds with 100+ bpm is not grindcore. Im sorry but this band is one of the true straight grind core bands. Sure their discogrophy has some experimentation here and there but they are essentially grind in the truest form. Their latest album "Agorapocalypse" was clearly massively digitally enhanced and had heavy Hardcore influence but this makes them "non-metal"?? Three singers ranging from hardcore to screamo to growles. only thing 100% digital is the drums and they sound very "human" on their latest album. So do you guys just not like this band? Because there is no fucking reason for it not to be posted on this site. When i see garbage metal-core left and right and even screamo? This is Blasphemy.

Ok so "this band" called Agoraphobic nosebleed who used to have songs ranging from 5-30 seconds with 100+ bpm is not grindcore. Im sorry but this band is one of the true straight grind core bands. Sure their discogrophy has some experimentation here and there but they are essentially grind in the truest form. Their latest album "Agorapocalypse" was clearly massively digitally enhanced and had heavy Hardcore influence but this makes them "non-metal"?? Three singers ranging from hardcore to screamo to growles. only thing 100% digital is the drums and they sound very "human" on their latest album. So do you guys just not like this band? Because there is no fucking reason for it not to be posted on this site. When i see garbage metal-core left and right and even screamo? This is Blasphemy.

Yeah, you've pretty much just perfectly explained why they're purely punk based grind and not metal based (like Pig Destroyer, a band we DO list). If we accepted bands based on personal taste, you bet your ass this archive would be a lot smaller. No need to throw a fit because a band you like isn't listed here, it's not the end of the world.

Ok so "this band" called Agoraphobic nosebleed who used to have songs ranging from 5-30 seconds with 100+ bpm is not grindcore. Im sorry but this band is one of the true straight grind core bands.

Yes, and grindcore is a punk/metal hybrid genre and bands falling under it are thus not always focused on metal. Fairly recently I listened to "Agorapocalypse" to see what all the fuss is about since they get brought up in here regularly. It is very obviously punk-based and lacking in the metal riff department.

Fearofnapalm wrote:

So do you guys just not like this band?

Aw darn, you got us. On the other hand, the 94,000+ listed bands we all love very much.

MutantClannfear wrote:

Have the mods come to a consensus on Gruntruck yet? (Azmodes, I kinda saw you had listened to them... )

Yeeeaaah about that... I'm not really convinced. I'll just quote a post from the HQ here:

Azmodes wrote:

Alright, so I'm through both albums and I dunno... heavy and chunky and all, but somehow I'm missing consistently metal riffs... I can't quite put my finger on it, maybe something in the sound is twisting my judgement. I get a rock vibe from this.

theunrelentingattack thinks they are acceptable, other mods haven't commented.

Rens theNAME wrote:

why is theName blacklisted?thx in advance

It doesn't say. Presumably because it wasn't considered metal, but seems it was blacklisted a while ago. Feel free to post evidence to the contrary.

This is regarding Throne of Mortality (USA). We released a demo tape in 2005.

Ok this is the second time that my submission has been rejected. The first time it was rejected because I had no picture proof of it. So I added a picture this time, and even left a comment that I could add more photos if needed. This time they said:

Music samples? - how am i supposed to get music samples from a cassette tape? This is NOT possible for me, or anyone who was in the band.Demo tracklist is correct? - I have no idea what this means, I added the tracklisting correctly...Photos You can put on : http://imageshack.us/ or something else for photos. - Okay you guys want more pictures, why do you have to reject it right away before even giving me a chance to upload more on imageshack?

Can someone objective actually tell me why you guys are so quick to shut down submissions? What am I supposed to do to get this approved now?

This is regarding Throne of Mortality (USA). We released a demo tape in 2005.

Ok this is the second time that my submission has been rejected. The first time it was rejected because I had no picture proof of it. So I added a picture this time, and even left a comment that I could add more photos if needed. This time they said:

Music samples? - how am i supposed to get music samples from a cassette tape? This is NOT possible for me, or anyone who was in the band.Demo tracklist is correct? - I have no idea what this means, I added the tracklisting correctly...Photos You can put on : http://imageshack.us/ or something else for photos. - Okay you guys want more pictures, why do you have to reject it right away before even giving me a chance to upload more on imageshack?

Can someone objective actually tell me why you guys are so quick to shut down submissions? What am I supposed to do to get this approved now?

I'm objective.

It's really quite simple - read the rules and follow them. If we can't listen to the music then it's really really tough to accept a submission. We get hundreds of submissions and a ton of them are BS so whether you are a member of the band or not we can't simply trust your word that you're metal. That's nothing against you personally but we get a lot of submissions from bands that aren't metal.

You really don't understand how time consuming it is to get through them - so include all the proof when you submit it. Don't ask if we want more pictures - include all the pictures or at least enough so that you're sure it's proof. We'll do some research on our own for sure but if you only released one demo in 2005, there's isn't really any research that can be done. So we have no choice but to reject it.

How do you get it accepted now? Get us the proper proof that we're looking for. Otherwise, it's likely not going to be.

Edit: I don't believe I saw the submission but is this the band you're talking about?

This is regarding Throne of Mortality (USA). We released a demo tape in 2005.

Ok this is the second time that my submission has been rejected. The first time it was rejected because I had no picture proof of it. So I added a picture this time, and even left a comment that I could add more photos if needed. This time they said:

Music samples? - how am i supposed to get music samples from a cassette tape? This is NOT possible for me, or anyone who was in the band.Demo tracklist is correct? - I have no idea what this means, I added the tracklisting correctly...Photos You can put on : http://imageshack.us/ or something else for photos. - Okay you guys want more pictures, why do you have to reject it right away before even giving me a chance to upload more on imageshack?

Can someone objective actually tell me why you guys are so quick to shut down submissions? What am I supposed to do to get this approved now?

I'm objective.

It's really quite simple - read the rules and follow them. If we can't listen to the music then it's really really tough to accept a submission. We get hundreds of submissions and a ton of them are BS so whether you are a member of the band or not we can't simply trust your word that you're metal. That's nothing against you personally but we get a lot of submissions from bands that aren't metal.

You really don't understand how time consuming it is to get through them - so include all the proof when you submit it. Don't ask if we want more pictures - include all the pictures or at least enough so that you're sure it's proof. We'll do some research on our own for sure but if you only released one demo in 2005, there's isn't really any research that can be done. So we have no choice but to reject it.

How do you get it accepted now? Get us the proper proof that we're looking for. Otherwise, it's likely not going to be.

Hey thanks for getting back to me. Like I said, because that's a demo tape, it was recorded on a ghetto blaster in the jam space, and I have absolutely no way to digitalize this. I don't even own a tape player anymore. BUT I am able to provide mp3s that were recorded AFTER that demo. After the first vocalist left, I (the guitarist), took over vocals and have some mp3s of that. I've added a link where you can listen to those demos as proof that it really is black metal. But I added the link as a modification because I had already re-submitted the band with full pictures links.

Agoraphobic is not my favorite band. I just see no reason for them not being metal enough. It sucks when you cant find a good "extreme" band on this site because it is very insightfull.. Whatever all i can say is

Agoraphobic is not my favorite band. I just see no reason for them not being metal enough. It sucks when you cant find a good "extreme" band on this site because it is very insightfull.. Whatever all i can say is

You misread. What i meant was: I hate it when i cant find "any" band that i am interested on THIS site because it has an awesome format (discog, band memebers and most importantly reviews). It is hard to get all that information from one source.

You misread. What i meant was: I hate it when i cant find "any" band that i am interested on THIS site because it has an awesome format (discog, band memebers and most importantly reviews). It is hard to get all that information from one source.

No, i didn't misread at all. There are 94,000 bands on this site. If you can't find any bands you like here, then you're probably on the wrong site.

Regarding older bands since Gruntruck has been brought up I'd like to mention that Life of Agony's first album River Runs Red is filled with slow and heavy Type O like doom riffs and bludgeoning thrash riffs through and through. Azmodes, please give it a listen and discuss with other mods if they're up for reconsideration.

Infact I use to have a relly hot friend from there but unfurtunetly the last party we have I was really wasted and grab her ass and it cause a huge problem. Her dad (that is a marine) wants to ripp my nuts... thinks are not the same...

Can Tremor (Russia) be un-blacklisted? I don't know about why it was, just be because of a grind band or something, but it prohibits me from submitting a Symphonic Black Metal Band also called Tremor, who just released their latest album via Grailight productions: http://vk.com/tremor_tula

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Acrobat wrote:

I dunno, I'm a guitarist and it always feels like playing a giant cock. Not just that but live music should hit you in the genitals. It might not if you don't use good amplifiers and your modelling shit goes straight out of the PA. But good music hits you HARD in the GENITALS.

Can Tremor (Russia) be un-blacklisted? I don't know about why it was, just be because of a grind band or something, but it prohibits me from submitting a Symphonic Black Metal Band also called Tremor, who just released their latest album via Grailight productions: http://vk.com/tremor_tula