So-called "Birther Queen" Orly Taitz hadn't yet heard about the Supreme Court's decision to uphold a $20,000 fine against her when TPMMuckraker reached her on Monday.

But Taitz told TPMMuckraker she is convinced that none of the members of the court read her request, and that clerks made the decision for the justices...

A federal judge's October 2009 ruling required Taitz, a lawyer and dentist who has filed several suits claiming President Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen, to pay the fine for filing "frivolous" litigation. Taitz was attempting to misuse the federal court system to push her political agenda, the judge said...

Taitz said reports that there was a lien on her house were untrue, and that she would be able to cover the $20,000 fine with donations from her supporters. "I have means to pay, the public is collecting funds," Taitz said. She said she received $3,500 in four or five days. "Within a month, I will have the $20,000," Taitz said. "Most of them are contributing maybe $20, $25 dollars, there's a lot of support."...

As she did last year, Taitz on Monday once again compared herself to Nelson Mandela. "Nelson Mandela was in prison for years, he went against the regime, but ultimately he prevailed," Taitz said. The fine, said Taitz, "was means of intimidation and harassment."...

And they're coming to take me away ha-haaa They're coming to take me away ho ho hee hee ha haaa To the funny farm Where life is beautiful all the time And I'll be happy to see those nice young men In their clean white coats And they're coming to take me away ha haaa --Napoleon XIV

It is noteworthy that first Justice Clarence Thomas denied her request, then Alito referred it to the whole court, and they denied her motion. If Taitz can’t get support from Thomas and Alito, she is clearly barking up the wrong tree. She has to pay her fine, $20,000.

Have you even taken the time to read one page of Dr. Taitz motions? How do you know the clerks in the Supreme Court are not guilty of altering records? I, for a fact, have spoken directly with Mr. Eric Fossum on July 27 2010, a clerk in the Supreme Court when Dr. Taitz first heard of Justice Alito allegedly denying her motion. She discovered that not only were her documents not entered into the log of the Court, there was no Official signature by Justice Alito, or any other Justice. When I asked Mr. Fossum if this was true, he initially told me A clerk signed it and when I tried to question him further by asking him Is this the same as a Real Justice signing the documentshe was something less than forthcoming in his answers and finally told meIm not going to go down this road any more any more, and hung up on me.

It appears, to use a metaphor, “The Patients Are Running the Asylum”. Translated: “The clerks Are Running the Supreme Court and the Justices Are Nothing More Than Spectators. As someone who posts here said earlier “He’s alright with that”.

I find it very troubling that people are trying to defend the corruption in all 3 branches of what’s left of our government... Dr. Taitz is absolutely correct in her efforts at exposing the Supreme Court and it’s clerks who appear to be complicit in the ongoing stonewalling we see every day. Have any of these “apologists” for Obama considered the thought that if he is in fact a usurper to the office of President, each and every order he has signed or will sign will be nullified and we then will be subject to the wrath of just about every country in addition to the thought that many brave soldiers fighting and will die wrongful deaths under his unlawful command. This is unacceptable.

Ditto. I’ve read some of her pleadings and they’re technically deficient in many ways. Judges don’t take kindly to violations of their court rules. While I think she’s on the right track, she really needs to hire a good paralegal or legal secretary who’s familiar with that sort of thing to help her out ... and while she’s at it, maybe cut back on the caffeine or something. And — said it before, but I’ll say it again — if he has nothing to hide, why is he spending so much $$ hiding it?

‘they’ were the drive-by media in the spring of 2008... Abc, CBS, NBC, CNN, cnbc, etc. They started that once it became obvious he was going to win the GOP nomination

After McCain handed over the info, and he was ruled as eligible, the furor died down around April timeframe. In June 2008, they asked 0bama for the same information, once it was clear he would have the nomination. He has not complied to the request yet... And has a spent $2.9m to keep people from getting the information

Have you even taken the time to read one page of Dr. Taitz motions? How do you know the clerks in the Supreme Court are not guilty of altering records?

You never see anything from the Supreme Court with an ink signature from a Justice-- not in Orly's case, not in any case. All you ever get is a letter from the Clerk of the Court (who is a permanent official, not a Justice's law clerk-- Orly seems to be confused between the two positions), saying that the Court denied a motion or denied certiorari.

In June 2008, they asked 0bama for the same information, once it was clear he would have the nomination.

He made a paper copy of his certification of live birth available for inspection at his campaign office. Factcheck staffers took pictures and posted them on the internet. In contrast, while McCain showed a hard copy to a reporter, he never allowed it to be photographed and posted.

If that's not enough, Hawaii's department of health director publicly stated that Obama's vital record shows he was born in Hawaii.

If that doesn't satisfy you, nothing will, which is why he isn't going to give you more.

And has a spent $2.9m to keep people from getting the information

That is simply not true. It amazes me how unverified rumors get accepted as if they were gospel truth around here.

In June 2008, they asked 0bama for the same information, once it was clear he would have the nomination.

He made a paper copy of his certification of live birth available for inspection at his campaign office. Factcheck staffers took pictures and posted them on the internet. In contrast, while McCain showed a hard copy to a reporter, he never allowed it to be photographed and posted.

If that's not enough, Hawaii's department of health director publicly stated that Obama's vital record shows he was born in Hawaii.

If that doesn't satisfy you, nothing will, which is why he isn't going to give you more.

And has a spent $2.9m to keep people from getting the information

That is simply not true. It amazes me how unverified rumors get accepted as if they were gospel truth around here.

I give up. You tell me what he posted that wasn’t a “fact”. I wasn’t questioning that, RahBert.

My issue is with gloating over issues among those who give a damn about the authenticity of anyone for public office. McCain submitted his birth certificate for review. Other decent people running for the office of President have, too. Why not your friend, “0”?

You made the claim that Obama "has spent $2.9m to keep people from getting the information". You should be able to offer some proof.

That Perkins Coie firm is helping with tax compliance issues for the entire Obama family as well as being involved with the administrations entanglements with the Blagojevich trial. (They have a rather large office in Chicago that includes former federal prosecutors.) There is zero evidence that payments made to Perkins Coie have anything to do with birther cases. Chances are, some of it was spent on some birther issues, but the $2.9 million "to keep people from getting the information" is completely made up.

There is no public information available to ascertain which cases those funds were distributed to within the law firm. Even WND admits they don't know.

they were the drive-by media in the spring of 2008... Abc, CBS, NBC, CNN, cnbc, etc. They started that once it became obvious he was going to win the GOP nomination

I could be mistaken, but I don't think ANY of those particular news outlets had anything to say about McCain's eligibility. And those that did (NYTimes, WSJ, Washington Post), they ran stories about the Constitutional question, but those stories were all pretty heavily on McCain's side.

After McCain handed over the info,

McCain didn't hand over any info.

In June 2008, they asked 0bama for the same information, once it was clear he would have the nomination.

This is wrong in two respects. One, because McCain didn't hand over anything, Obama couldn't have been asked for "the same information." Two, while a few in the media did ask Obama to produce a birth certificate starting June 9, the COLB was posted on June 12, and every rational person in the media was satisfied.

And has a spent $2.9m to keep people from getting the information

Except he hasn't. Like Tex said, that's a made-up number. Really, a 10 second Google search would have shown you that's wrong.

"A certificate of live birth is not the same as a birth certificate. I really dont have to go into the differences... You should do your homework."

Apparently, you shouldn't be the one giving homework advice.

A "birth certificate" is a general name for a document that certifies the facts of birth. It has no one specific form. A "certificate of live birth" is one possible specific title for a birth certificate. It could also be titled one of several variations on the theme. They are all specific examples of the class, "birth certificate".

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