Greedy Goblin

Wednesday, July 8, 2015

Analysis of MoA with SMA sitting on their chest and beating them everytime

Short RL economy: I found a little video that describes the future of Greece pretty accurately.

Yes, I know. I must let that line go. But I just can't stop smiling every time I think of it. Anyway this is the performance of the pilots of MoA against the Evil Imperium. Kills and losses are de-inflated, so if a pilot got 10% damage on a 300M AFK Ishtar, he gets 30M booked.
Only damage done to and losses from the Evil Imperium are listed. The table below lists the top pilots, sorted by damage done

This is the summary against alliances of the Evil Imperium, over 5B kills:

Evil Alliance

B Damage done

B Damage taken

ISK ratio

SpaceMonkey's Alliance

71

23

76

Goonswarm Federation

42

20

68

Circle-Of-Two

6

3

65

Tactical Narcotics Team

5

1

80

Yes, you see it right, SMA had 24% ISK ratio during a "successful campaign". I'd ask the rhetorical question what do they do when they aren't successful, but life recently answered it.

Finally the focus on the Evil: 40% of the losses were from the Evil Imperium, so MoA was indeed troubled by third parties during their Cloud Ring deployment. Here is the toplist of losses from non-Imperium enemies:

WAFFLES.: 10B

Pandemic Horde: 8B

The Marmite Collective: 6B

#Corp: Darkmooncorporation: 4B

Banderlogs Alliance: 4B

Break-A-Wish Foundation: 2B

Gentlemen's.Club: 2B

But if you are a hoping minion of Evil, I have to tell that I've already found an alliance to support to supplement the numbers, because blood must flow!

10 comments:

Anonymous
said...

While I do not take Imperium propaganda at face value, I feel your analysis is kind of flawed as well.You equate success solely with ISK efficiency and if that were SMA's goal then you are correct.But if their goal was to diminish MOA activity by burning ISK in the form of ships then their campaign may well have met it's goals.An analogy would be WWII germany. Compared to the allies germany was ISK positive. They killed a lot more soldiers and destroyed more equipment than they lost during the war. (outside of civilian atrocities)Now I am not comparing either side to nazi's or allies, that would be silly for a computer game, but the coffers of the imperium run a LOT deeper than that of MOA and thus they need not fly nearly as risk averse as MOA does.

The full quote is actually:"SpaceMonkey’s Alliance completed a successful campaign of sitting on MOA’s chest and beating them everytime they showed any sign of taking advantage of the Imperium’s Delve Deployment"That's actually true. ISK efficiency means very little.

Verge of Collapse is a dying alliance that now only has 109 members, with maybe 4 or 5 of them that camp in cloaky stratios in CFC territory. I'd hardly call that a threat.

Your logic on how killboard efficiency wins wars is laughable. MOA hasn't gained anything while 90% of the CFC was down in Delve. How do you call that a victory? Anyone can easily get their killboard efficiency up by flying risk adverse cloaky bombless bombers. You know, the type of bombers that you criticized the CFC for using during the TEST Fountain war. There is still no mass exodus from the CFC, in fact they probably have the highest retention rate out of any alliance in Eve.

"VoC was #6 killer in June, not bad from a few guys."That's the point though... it IS bad. They may have buffed their killboard stats, but most of the imperium have no idea who they are. Killboard stats are irrelevant, what matters is impact. You've proven yourself that killboards can easily be inflated by picking easy targets. That's all that happens here. Groups like this and MOA specifically avoid strategic targets in favours of buffing killboard, since that's all you look at. It will never change a thing. You've been at this how long? And you still haven't figured that part out yet?

"Could you teach me how to calculate "impact score"?"No. Nobody could teach you how to calcluate anything like that, sine it's not raw numbers. To make it simple though, there has to be a visible negative effect on the imperium. There isn't. The only downsizing they've done has been to fozziesov.

"CFC is a ratting coalition. They rat for ISK (there is no other point). Take their ISK and they leave."Obviously they don't though, since it's been over a year and still there's no signs of people leaving. Ratters have losses and those are acceptable. When they aren't, they adapt, they don't leave. In order to beat them you have to come up with a way to negatively impact them in a way they can't adapt. I'd really like to see you succeed, that's the hard part of all this, you just never will if you're expecting it to be won by ganking random ships.