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Tuesday, November 17, 2015

Mexico hunting down Chapo? "It's lies, pure politics" says sources

Lucio R. Borderland Beat republished from Telesur

Note: Did anyone at BB
believe the near misses of a Chapo capture?

The monkey story was so
absurd, that not one of us contributors at BB could in good conscience post the
story. Mexican officials claimed they
almost nabbed the capo, when his twin daughters begged him to save their ailing
pet monkey, “Boots”. Frustratingly, U.S.
and European press, slurped it up and ran with the story.

Two solid sources, very
close to powerful Mexican drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, told teleSUR
late Sunday that the Sinaloa cartel leader has not been injured and was by no
means nearly arrested, agreeing that the Mexican government is “lying,” possibly
to convince the U.S. it is doing all it can to recapture him.

“It's all lies. It's
pure politics,” said Antonio Lopez Salcido, a relative of deceased infamous
drug trafficker Manuel “Cochiloco” Salcido Uzeta. “El Chapo has a huge personal
army of more than 300 gunmen prepared to defend him and he also enjoys full protection
and fluid information from federal authorities.”

Lopez made it clear to
teleSUR that he wanted his real name left out of this story, “not because I
fear El Chapo, but rather the government. They really get pissed when we expose
them.”

He also said he had no
problem explaining the truth regarding the government versions that special
forces nearly arrested El Chapo early in October after being spotted on foot.

“You tell me if you
believe that bullshit. El Chapo has been where he has always been since he left
jail,” Lopez added. “He has no reason to leave his area of influence. All the
communities and all the people are with him because he has done more for them
than the government has ever done.”

Lopez was recently
released from jail after serving a 10-year sentence for drug trafficking, and
he is originally from a small community in the mountainous region of Sinaloa
called La Anona, just a few miles from Jesus Maria, where El Chapo has family
and where his stronghold begins.

“I was recently up
further than Jesus Maria to run an errand for (drug lord Rafael) Caro Quintero
and he was there with El Chapo and El Mayo (Ismael Zambada, another very
powerful drug trafficker),” he said.

The source explained
that the three multi-billionaire drug traffickers have been working together
for decades and said that based on bribes and donations to the highest levels
of government, they are “basically untouchable.”

Julio “El Tio”
Martinez, who works for a Sinaloa Cartel top operative known only as Aquiles,
agreed with Lopez.

“I've told you before, El Chapo is in the
mountainous region between Jesus Maria and his place of origin in Badiraguato.
He controls all of it in partnership with don Rafael (Caro Quintero) and 'El
Mayo,'” said El Tio.

He said that all three
of them have more power than the president himself.

“They pay tens of millions, if not billions to
all these hypocritical politicians, two federal security forces, the army, the
marines, to all them. They would not dare touch neither of them as they would
be betraying agreements that through the years total billions of dollars in
cash,” he added.

Caro Quintero was
released from jail under highly dubious circumstances despite being demanded
for extradition by the United States for narcotics smuggling and in relation to
the torture and death of a DEA agent over two decades ago.

El Mayo reportedly owns
one of the largest milk factories in northwestern Mexico – Lecheria Santa
Monica – all of the McDonald's in, at least, Sinaloa state capital Culiacan,
and many other businesses across the country and in other nations.

However, El Mayo has
never even been issued a traffic ticket and there is no talk in government
regarding his arrest.

Same goes for Caro
Quintero, who although spent close to 30 years in jail, continued to run his
empire from behind bars and increased his fortune to the tens of billions,
according to DEA files.

Also, in spite of a
government admission that it had made a mistake releasing him, there is no
apparent will to recapture him.

“I just want to say the
government is lying. They must know why. They lie about who is killing who.
They blame the deaths of journalist on us. The accuse us of killing
politicians, but the truth is that we are all about business ... that is the
business of making money,” he said.

El Tio explained that
the least thing any drug trafficker is to draw attention by killing journalists
or politicians or activists.

“All the contrary, the
man I work for, Aquiles, is usually in charge of cleaning up cities where the
police has proven to be incapable. Where there is a high rate of kidnappings,
car robberies, extortion to businesses, Aquiles and his crew come in and clean
up so that business can be carried out peacefully without complaints from the
local population,” Martinez said.

“I also just want to
say that we know we are no innocent pigeons, but believe me when I say the
government is far worse to society than we are. We have built churches,
schools, clinics, roads and taken electricity and water to places the
government never showed will to do so,” he said.

98 comments:

Sounds like even if he was caught he would not be extradited to the USA. Maybe the last capture was all for show. As if the government was doing something. All planned out maybe. After all the other prisoners said he was getting special treatment and they even had a female come in to service him against the rules. All makes sense as they extradite the others who have done crimes in Mexico also and they let the one go that murdered the US agent. Truly great stuff for a movie or book.

WOW, Excellent report. Makes perfect sense, if you can use those two words together to describe the situation . I totally agree about all these displaced people and it seems to be going on in far too many places. Entire pueblos burned and bulldozed.

Some aspects of this report make sense, like the idea that both El Chapo and Don Rafa are hiding in the area between Jesus Maria and upcountry ranchos in Badiraguato, but others lack context.

I've never heard of the Zambada family owning the three McDonald's franchises in Culiacan. I'm curious where TeleSUR came up with that bit of nonsense. It is also doubtful that a runner for Tijuana leader El Aquiles would have much info about the location of top bosses.

Why would all of Mayo's kids go to prison if these guys have so much power? To me that never made any sense at all. If the government is on your side and protects you, then why take down all of your kids? that doesnt sound like loyalty to me

1:10 well forgive me, but $3.00 pesos macdonalds make no sense to me, nada, pinchis soybean flour sangüiches of sheet are no good... i'd rather eat nopales...-- AL CAPONE and all the other members of the mob used to complain bitterly about all the money they had to pay to states attorneys, mayors, and poolice just to be able to work...--Well, mexico has arrived exploiting narcos and blaming them for its government sponsored terrorism of state, and murdering mexicans all over the country to teach mexicans a.lesson, fear the government and do not talk...

(born and raised in Juarez) the mexican people want to say "pray for mexico" and want to get the worlds attention over paris that mexico is suffering and that the world should feel bad about mexico... yet they glorify cartels and say "arriva el chapo" and were happy when he escaped and also say "he helps more innocents than the government" yet he is responsible for many innocent familys... i dont think you can stop the main problem becasue it has many other problems inside it and they will build up

Problem is: mexico's problem is state sponsored terrorism of state, financed, paid and supported by the US taxpayers through their corrupt bought and paid for "government" while the french have been the victims of the US sponsored wars for profit all over the a-rab world...against the Arab world peoples...for their oil, their gold, their land and water, and all that slave labor...

You idiots ever consider that the ones saying pray for Mexico are not the same ones rooting for chapo. I don't root for any cartel and hope they all rot in prison as well as say pray for mexico. Racist lops.

8:41FAQUIU...EL CHAPO IS A BETTER PERSON THAN ANY MEXICAN GOVERNING NARCO-MIERDOCRACIA OFFICER OR POOLITICIAN...--That is not rooting for the cartel, it is evident that the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia has been corrupt since a looong time before el chapo was born, and during the year he spent in prison, no drug trafficking was slowed, no murdering of mexicans was stopped either...

I actually believe this report. I believe the "Big 3" (El Chapo, El Mayo, & Caro Quintero) are hunkered down, running the Sinaloa Federation and helping the people who are helping them. I can see the Mexican government lying and covering up all of this. Not only are billions of dollars from the cartels at stake, but so are billions of dollars in aid from the United States. All of that money is spent on corruption, not to fight drugs or the cartels. The Americans are either absolutely stupid, or just as involved as the Mexican government from a corruption standpoint. Until the US wakes up and gets their head out of their ass & is serious about stopping drug trafficking, then this will go on forever.

No one thinks the Americans are serious about putting an end to drug trafficking because it would affect a lot of jobs. Not just in law enforcement, the intelligence fields, but mainly in the banking industry. Reports say if the US were to completely stop drug trafficking, their banking system would collapse. Plus everyone knows the CIA, FBI, & DEA are all involved with the cartels for controlling the drug trade. Ever heard of Gary Webb? Or Barry Seal?

US lobbyists PAY THE US government to do as told, before they are even eligible for "executive action"...--lawmakers know better than making waves if they ain't got paid their dues yet...--speakers do not put it on the floor if it ain't been won passed bought and paid in full and in cash, preferably...--That why they say money talks and bullshit walks, and the unmasked bandits at the supreme court agree, because the "majority" is bought and paid foRRR...

The government of the great country of Mexico knows better than to catch El chapo again. El chapo agreed to turn himself in. Just so the government wouldn't look bad. If they actually start looking for him, they would break a mutual agreement between Mr guzman and chapo. Things will get ugly. Atte el morroñis de la palma navolato, sinaloa ajuuaa

Why would anyone believe this cartel propaganda piece? It's very convenient for cartel scum to point the finger at the monolithic "government" and say that this entire beast is actually the corrupt one.

Don't you all realize this monolithic evil "government" is comprised of many individuals, many of whom are actual decent people. Do you think the cartels or the government have more honest decent people in its ranks? What about the Mexican military when compared to cartel sicarios?

It's easy to try and point the finger at the government and say that in fact THEY are the evil corrupt money-hungry ones and the cartels are the good guys.

Have you forgotten all those beheadings, those narco snuff films, the torture, the extortion, the constant dead littering the streets of Mexico? This article even goes so far as to claim that this is all the doing of the government and the police, and the cartel simply come along and try to stop all this evil and clean up the streets.

Don't make me laugh! Sure, the government sometimes strikes deals with certain cartels to unify and fight against another one. But all of these kingpins are not just sitting around sipping wine enjoying the good life while the government acts as their body guards while lying to the rest of the world.

The Mexican government CANNOT lie to the US Government. The US knows whether Mexico is actually trying to catch el Chapo or not.

This article is bullshit. The US wants el Chapo captured and as a direct result, Mexico (who takes all our money and supplies and training) is doing all they can to capture el Chapo as well. Case closed.

The thing here is... Regular citizens from both sides mx, usa got played/manipulated by some corrupt, unscrupulous govt officials in both governments, the ones in mexica doing their 'puppet part' same thing in the us side. BOTH...by criminals in SUITS behind offices, and by big Drug Trafickers, IN BOTH SIDES! How would you explain, they are over 56 years old, free as an eagle and with billions of dollars to keep bribing who ever they want?

Gaviria, Carrillo, along with others that got wacked didn't last as much. Why? Because they didn't have the kind of accomplices in both govts, that guzman, zambada, rcq, el azul have!....They have been getting help from top officials! In both sides! Otherwise they would not had outlasted all those other enemies they had! Simple as that! Do they think everybody is an idiot or what?

If you were alive when Kiki was killed 12:05 you would understand why RCQ had to go to prison. There was immense pressure on the Mexican government to produce those responsible for kiki's killers. When daddy says jump the kids say how high.

CIA ASSET felix ismael rodriguez (aka max gomez), partner of Juan Ramon Matta Ballesteros, in charge of drug trafficking and the contras for the Reagan Administration, and of Dark operations in mexico for the US and the contras, allied with mexican DFS, had camarena murdered because of loses to the DEA IN MEXICO OF MONEY AND GRIFA...NOBODY WANTS TO REMEMBER OR INVESTIGATE ANYTHING...--30 years of impunity for iran-contra conspirators

And get this 7:51...Reagan is suppose to be the "best" American President of this era. There is tons more shit that went on while Reagan was president than Obama but hey if the Right says it then it must be true. Lol!!!

I covered the Reagan white house, second term. Tonnes of blow, everywhere, from the EOB to Blair House. Dick Cheney loved his cocaine! Ran into him one Saturday afternoon at at a fundraiser, he had that "ring around the nostril" thing that happens to sloppy cokeheads. Apparently, the future VP hadn't been home since the Thursday. His shirt tail was caught in his pants zipper, too. What Cheney lacks in dignity, he makes up for in balls. Reagan was already Alzheimer's by then, Poppy Bush was in charge, both terms.

Mexico at this point is an embarrassment. Politicians at every level disgracefully value the dollar more than the people, and the people are aware of the corruption but refuse to act, sad. Sinaloan capos feed and manipulate the public with violent and outlandish drug ballads and they gobble it up, the suppression is successful. Make me head of state ill become the narcos worst nightmare and prosecute the corrupt politician making examples out of them by imprisoning them for a minimum of two decades, bypassing the constitution and implementing the death penalty. Mexico is currently a joke anyways

The red guards just put everybody suspect of burgeois behaviour in re-education camps, to learn their Common Core Mao style...and it worked!!!--Now Common Ore is trying to conquer mexican minds and intellects by building them after themselves, and earning support in the government one kick attatime...

i agree with the first comment . El Chapo is so powerfull he has "escaped" twice . He is the leader to the most powerfull cartel in a country where even the gas stations are corrupt . this guy has so much money and politicos under his payroll that he gives a show . he is allowed to do this show with the blessing of the suits. its all a show . his show is better than the suits who run Mexico . that is why the people admire him . that is why he can buy his way out of any situation

Ive been laughing at the reports from the start first of all they changed the story so many times it starded to feel like Peña Nieto was righting this Stuff hahha its so damm funny and even more funny when people belive this stuff the Americans are not getting Chapo sorry Obama

Pueblos burned and bulldozed is not el chapo, that is the army, poolice, marinas and zetas, along with random killings and selective demonization of their targets for martyrdom...--all the murders the gorillas of the mexican governing narco-mierdocracia present just for show as narco guerrillas and their contras are nothing but fairy tales, they just get murdered and disappeared to show work...--Blame it all on the padrinos del mexican narcotrafico, the US...

CIA ? CIA is corrupt there's been CIA planes fallen full of Sinaloa cartel cocaine . Look at the big picture ,cartels aren't that bad ,in fact Mexican drug cartels help protect your country from terrorist ,anyone crossing from Mexico to the US illegally, has to talk to the cartels and ask for there help , cartels won't help terrorist because they wouldn't want there market to be blown up . It's not good for business .

Exactly, people need to understand the big picture which is crooked gobiernos using the drug trade as a financial resource for any crooked plans they have regarding worldwide matters.So when you guys understand that, then you come to a simple thought: If somebody is going to run it it better be people with certain values so the common folk at least doesnt get taxed for piso or shit like that.

El Chapo and all of his associates are from the old school. He created mayhem of course for the control of certain areas but honestly sometimes is killed or be killed. He has waged war against the biggest organizations, which of course would try to get his slice of the cake as well.

The CIA wins every gosh darn time. Believe that!! The CIA has 10 times the money and 20 times the fire power. Don't forget about the paid foreign assets also. RCQ was on the payroll at one time and probably still is. Do you honestly believe he was released on a technicality? CIA mufucka!!!

11:57 the CIA is notorious for cutting their assets loose and severing all ties from them when they fuck up. Don't be surprised if the CIA was the reason RCQ was released because he was punished long enough. If your asset was to be extradited would you want him in the US governments hands to spill the beans? I don't think so. You have to look beyond the realm of black and white. There is a lot gray areas in this corrupt world.

No. Caro Quintero wasn't an asset, and isn't now. The CIA's front porch, a.k.a. the State Department, today, still buys DEA's false version of Kiki and the pilots torture and murders. State Dept employees who hadn't yet been born at the time of RCQ's arrest hate Caro Quintero. There are many remarkable factors in this saga, none more so than the fact RCQ didn't get offed in prison--that, my friends, is POWER.

There isn't a damn thing that anybody can do to shut down the scourge of the planet--THE CIA. Get US Congress to stop funding the agency? They'll kill anybody who proposes the legislation to shut down the agency. CIA answers to no one, not the executive branch, not the judiciary or the Senate or Congress. It was formed after WWII. An academic I knew, long since deceased, who was a WWII spook, was asked to be a part of this "new" agency. He declined, on the grounds that the agency would have the potential to destroy the country, if not the entire world. How right he was.

i feel like i haven't seen an article on the deadliest cartel in a while why? Sinaloa is the powerful rich cartel that believes violence is bad for conducting business (DRUG TRAFFICKING) which makes a lot of sense but I'm surprise their not much news on northeastern cartels who are extremely violent barbaric and they seem to either not be as active any more ( which i highly doubt) MY money is on the fact that their so feared that journalist and reporter don't dare mention anything about Them(This one i highly believe)

BB has done a good job reporting on that recently too. You can find lots of reports of Gulf Cartel and Zetas in El Paso times and stuff like that. Currently there is a lot of Zetas infighting which hasn't been reported much by mainstream media. Your right though. Up in the north east is getting very brutal especially nuevo laredo and Reynosa.

I wonder if anyone else read EPN tweet? Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto later tweeted that Trudeau had formally committed to lift the Mexican visa requirement that restricts travel to Canada, which was a promise from the Liberal campaign platform. The visa requirement was initially put in places as over 10K Mexicans were arriving annually in Canada and declaring refugee status! And many were not even from Mexico but used Mexico as a jumping-off point to gain access to Canada! Human traffickers and drug traffickers took advantage of the no-visa requirement! Refugee Status In Canada means many years of free $(15000pesos monthly) free medical including operations free, free eye care and glasses, and free dental and free prescription drugs! And a cherry on the cake Canada will pay for you lawyer to fight for your right to stay in Canada! If you can prove your life is in threat for being gay or on Cartel Hit list or an abused child prostitute you have a good chance of being allowed to stay forever. Folks like Dr Mirelles or threatened Journalists would likely be accepted as legitimate refugees. If after many years you are refused Canada pays you airfare back to Mexico. However, many Mexicans just go undercover and stay! Anyway, if you want to visit and enjoy a vacation in Canada or claim refugee status very soon all you'll need to do is book a ticket!

Yes Canadian girl. As a Mexican visitor you are suppose to have a travel visa, work visa or a student visa if you aren't already a resident alien. If you are a foreigner and you have none of these things and you are caught in the US typically you are deported. It's a 100% deportation if you are from Central and South America. Europe and Canada not so much.

Even mexico requires foreign people to have visas, or the kickback preferably, they ass is always ready for a mordida...--Canada is just opennin' a second front on illegal immigration into the US, they want their wall too...

Wrong. Canada doesn't want a wall. 70% of Canadian eligible voters chose Justin Trudeau as our PM. We are not Mr. Harper's Canada anymore although the same, shrill voices that think the Trudeau election was a mistake won't shut up or dial back their idiocy a notch. But, they speak for themselves, not Canada. If, you handle freezing your bum off in winter, you are welcomed to live here. We are ourselves, again. We are an inclusive society, eh?

Snitch Shorty, the Mayan and RCQ laid back and kickin it together from mountaintop to mountaintop could be a far reach. Shorty owes RCQ 30 years, but like el tio says, "We are all about the business of making money." Chapo's last escape gave the world collective tunnel vision and chasing him down amounts to a smoke screen for Manda Unica's Mexican takeover. Como dice el tio, the "strictly in the biz of making $ business," guys did build some schools, roads, medical clinics, but they made $ on all the construction deals, too.

Why would anybody believe this guy? He would be killed if he was real, he gave a fake name but not circumstances. Sounds fake, all the drug lords in mexico get special treatment, z40 had a big consert there in altiplano lol I agree that the México government is not trying to capture him but this is a fake story about a fabricated character lol

Just what we all know already USA is trying to capture him but Mexico keeps giving them excuses and taking millions in funds to supposedly fight drug trafficking its all a big scam from the mexican president. Chapo is just lucky The US has a bigger battle with terrorism their real concern is world domination. El chapo can take a back seat otherwise he would be finished fast. But I wish the DEA the best I hopenthey get lucky and get to him again with a kill this time. Because el chapo causes too much shit and violence.

6:30 that the idea behind all the propaganda, demonize the biiig baaad evil narcos, wuuh! El Chapo did not murder, I mean 'disappear' the 43, for example or murder and hide the thousands of people found in the mexican narcofosa pigsty aka "LA MARRANERA"--that is all the best equipped criminals doing, the mexican armed forces and federal and state poolice in cahoots with municipal criminals, state sponsored and paid AutoDefensas

Bear with me on this...But, a long while back, here on BB, there were a couple comments about how Chapo wasn't actually arrested, but EPN had him "kidnapped." I'm not saying it's true, but ya gotta wonder about his escape happening 1 mos after the elections. So, maybe, the question is who's EPN's new owner?

Actually @ 819pm Mexico is worth it's weight in gold. It is rich in natural resources and it is being milked by corporate vampires. It is rich in all aspect but morally and politically bankrupt. Mexico has been destabilized by outside nations an d the greed of the corporate elite.

So Acquiles is cleaning up Tijuana by paying meth heads a few grams of crystal to blow someone's head off? Lol I don't know about that but it can be proven that CDS are less violent in general than other groups although they have been just a brutal. It is true that they are all about the business as he said.

Yup CDS is the lesser of the trafficking evils. The money goes back into circulation and everyone eats. The problem is the user has an insatiable thirst for narcotics. So the govts, cartels, and elites will always be on top of this game, because the average citizen will always continue to consume.

I'm glad you didn't post that. It's really a disgrace. Also, there is a telesur article where an activist says that the government never said that they were going after El Chapo until the reports can out that they were committing human rights abuses. Thus suggesting they only said that to change the news reports. It's sad that these western media outlets eat these stories up without any consideration for the truth and yet they can say they're simply 'reporting' without knowing the lies they spread.

It's probably unrelated, but on a side note a guy named Hector David Salcido Valdez was gunned down in Culiacan a few days ago. He was released from the Aguaruto jail a few days earlier, where he was locked up for stealing cars. I think he was gunned down at his home with an AR-15.

Chapo has 300 armed guards? Yeah that's why he was caught with only 1 guy. That 300 armed guards theory has been going on for a long time, just speculation. Maybe. And a bk out him being caught in agreement, I don't think so cause why would he show his face when people and the government didn't know how he looked like recently, they were only showing old pictures of him

Chivis Google north Korea leader Kim is looking into giving el chapo Guzman asylum in exchange for helping build better infrastructure just quick background Google north Korea wants to give asylum to el chapo Guzman somewhat old article just thought u might be interested also the chapo guzman costume was a hit in my region in the u.s.a