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Re: The 2010-2011 New York Knicks Thread

Originally Posted by THEBOSS84

Cleveland guys, Cleveland.

He'll look like a hero and will hardly receive any animosity from Knick/Heat/Bull fans (not that he cares).

It's a scenario that many Knick fans can accept better than going to Miami. However, there will still be some bitterness with the way he has orchestrated this one hour special. I for one, will never view him in as high regard I had him prior to this summer nor last summer when he showed me some cracks in his makeup with the way he acted after being eliminated from the playoffs.

Re: The 2010-2011 New York Knicks Thread

Originally Posted by Yankees1962

It's a scenario that many Knick fans can accept better than going to Miami. However, there will still be some bitterness with the way he has orchestrated this one hour special. I for one, will never view him in as high regard I had him prior to this summer nor last summer when he showed me some cracks in his makeup with the way he acted after being eliminated from the playoffs.

Yeah, and it was an overkill in the celtics series when he made sure to shake everyone's hand and then some. He even went to the crowd and shook hands because he knew the camera was fixated on him.

Re: The 2010-2011 New York Knicks Thread

Originally Posted by Yankees1962

Waiting for what? I'm not comparing free agency systems in basketball versus baseball perse nor how one system affects their sport versus the other. I'm making a comment that Yankee fans, who root for their baseball team to sign major free agents away from other baseball teams are now faced with the possibility that the basketball team that many of them root for was rejected by a free agent they've coveted for 2-3 years. It has nothing to do with signing the equivalent of Pujols, Hanley and Mauer. It's just ironic that our NBA team has been dissed by Lebron and company.

I see what you're saying, I'm just sensitive to inevitable angle that some people will take if the Heat pull this off. "Haha, how does it feel now Yankee fans, beaten at your own game".

"We understand that John Henry must be embarrassed, frustrated and disappointed by his failure in this transaction. Unlike the Yankees, he chose not to go the extra distance for his fans in Boston."

Re: The 2010-2011 New York Knicks Thread

I see what you're saying, I'm just sensitive to inevitable angle that some people will take if the Heat pull this off. "Haha, how does it feel now Yankee fans, beaten at your own game".

Beaten at our own game? We usually get free agents because we offer more money than any other team can afford to because the fans pour ridiculous amounts of cash into the franchise. I don't think having one guy on the team convince his two BFFs to take less money to come to his team so they can have late-night circle-jerks every weekend is really "our game."

Re: The 2010-2011 New York Knicks Thread

Originally Posted by DiMaggio5CF

Beaten at our own game? We usually get free agents because we offer more money than any other team can afford to because the fans pour ridiculous amounts of cash into the franchise. I don't think having one guy on the team convince his two BFFs to take less money to come to his team so they can have late-night circle-jerks every weekend is really "our game."

Re: The 2010-2011 New York Knicks Thread

Originally Posted by Yankee Fan in Boston

Wholeheartedly agree. This is obviously disappointing, but if you follow the team you still have to be very pleased with their direction

Absolutely. Hey, the Knicks gave it their best shot - you can not force a guy to sign. Amare clearly wanted to sign here and is up for the challange; Lebron has other priorities. I won't kill him for going to Miami or leaving Cleveland (he's allowed to do what he wants to - he's earned his FA. Who am I to tell someone what to do with his life? The problem I have is that he's going make this breakup very public by airing it on ESPN), but I think that clearly he (a) didn't have the vision to see that the Knicks are headed in the right direction and might be serious contenders in a year or so, (b) wanted to win ASAP and (c) isn't necessarily up to the bright lights, big city.

In any case........as Walsh said today (he was on with Francesca), the last 2 years were about clearing the cap room. Now they are in very good position moving forward...........Knick fans have to realize the world doesn't begin or end with Lebron.

Re: The 2010-2011 New York Knicks Thread

Originally Posted by DiMaggio5CF

Beaten at our own game? We usually get free agents because we offer more money than any other team can afford to because the fans pour ridiculous amounts of cash into the franchise. I don't think having one guy on the team convince his two BFFs to take less money to come to his team so they can have late-night circle-jerks every weekend is really "our game."

Hey, I'm not saying it makes sense, you know people will do it though.

"We understand that John Henry must be embarrassed, frustrated and disappointed by his failure in this transaction. Unlike the Yankees, he chose not to go the extra distance for his fans in Boston."

Re: The 2010-2011 New York Knicks Thread

Rick Bucher works for ESPN as an NBA analyst. He is part of the problem. I wouldn't believe anything posted on twitter because its seems to harbor this kind of misinformation.

I wouldn't believe anything coming out of ESPN at all. Lebron's plans leaking will do nothing but hurt the ratings of their show tonight. The best thing they can do is create confusion so that no one is sure of anything and everyone thinks they have to tune in tonight to find out.

Re: The 2010-2011 New York Knicks Thread

Stephan A. Smith said on Francesa show that this was planned a long time ago. Well before FA.

So basically all this was done out of fun. They played 5 teams and their fan bases.

That ticked me off when I heard that..............so all the teams went through this hard work and preparation for nothing. We're supposed to praise them to high heavens because they are taking less $$ to play with each other? They just wasted the Knicks, Nets, Clippers (lol, but still), Cavs and Bulls' time - very nice.

The Knicks sound pretty annoyed - and good. I can't blame Lebron for wanting to win right away, but he clearly was not up to the challenge of playing in NY.

Re: The 2010-2011 New York Knicks Thread

Originally Posted by DiMaggio5CF

I wouldn't believe anything coming out of ESPN at all. Lebron's plans leaking will do nothing but hurt the ratings of their show tonight. The best thing they can do is create confusion so that no one is sure of anything and everyone thinks they have to tune in tonight to find out.

And this is exactly what's happening. ESPN's cashing in big. Twitter is being used to transmit misinformation to try to confuse the public while increasing its mass viewership for tonight's big announcement.