The below is probably the most disturbing as the daughter sounded like a wife in the making before the incident. The only potential mistake was letting her hang out with the activist crowd in high school.

Quote:Pam’s story

Our daughter went off to the college of her dreams. She seemed to do well her first year away. During her second year at college, she experienced a mental health breakdown. We received sketchy details of her struggles from her and a couple of her friends. There was no outreach from her college—due to privacy concerns.

Following much pleading on our part, she came home for a visit. We were met with a very different visage upon picking her up at the airport. Her face was covered in acne, she sprouted an obvious mustache, her entire appearance was disheveled.

After allowing her to settle in at home, we expressed concern about her appearance and demeanor. This was met with hostility. Her voice was somewhat deeper, I might note here. She seemed very disturbed—not at all her old self.

What was she like before this? No, not a tomboy as a child. She was an ambitious student, an animal lover, she loved to spend time in the kitchen baking. As for gender, she was typical (whatever that means). For her high school prom, she had her hair and makeup professionally styled. She wore an elegant gown which revealed ample cleavage. As for her friend group in high school, she aligned herself with social activists.

While our daughter was visiting, we asked her what was wrong. I inquired about the acne and mustache—that is not natural, I said. She insisted that she had always had a mustache. Not true.

Before we knew what had hit us, she returned to her college. We discovered that she had obtained testosterone in the student clinic. And, she refused all contact with her family.

Her college was complicit in all of this.

It sounds very cult like with the whole severing of ties. Jonestown U for sure and yet people go into debt for that kool aid. Just send your kid to trade school instead.

It is really is quite disturbing and these cultural shifts happening now will have long term consequences, I really do hope it doesn't get to the point where traditional masculinity and feminity become "obsolete" and taboo... The irony in all of these Social justice movements is that they are trying to "empower" women yet they end up even more depressed and bitter than they were before when they realize EVEN LESS men are attracted to them in their degenerate hybrid gender states.

Ultimately, we should care more about being effective than simply nobly intentioned. It is not enough to dream well: the true measure is what we achieve.

1: Who and how are all of these procedures and treatments being paid for?

2: Why does the daughter here seem to have absolutely no problem or issue getting the money for the treatments and procedures, meanwhile other people with all kinds of medical and health problems are left to suffer because they can't afford any health care and no one seems to care about helping them?

As few examples of people that I know with medical problems having problems paying:

A: A friend in his early 70s had to pay out of pocket several hundred dollars for a hearing aid in order to be able to hear at a level to be able to carry on a conversation or listen to tv.
B: Another friend had to pay several hundred dollars for dental work because Medicare did not cover it.
C: Friends in the past who had to wait until Tuesdays to go to a clinic run by a church to get health care or treatment for various problems.

This is because of media-induced hysteria. The media promotes a disease or problem and then suddenly scads of people claim they're suffering from it, when they didn't even know it existed the month before.

The same thing happened in the 1970s, when people thought they were "possessed" by the devil and priests conducted exorcisms. Then in the 1980s, Satan moved to daycare centers.

We also got anorexia and bulimia which no one had, then everyone had when it made all the magazine covers.

Then in the 1990s, we had "recovered memory syndrome" where women suddenly remembered abuse from their childhood and somehow got judges to put their fathers in prison for imagined crimes (look it up).

The media drives this, but in order for it to take hold, people have to buy into it.

What really troubles me is that no one ever seems to be able to bring a sense of context to all of this, least of all newspaper writers. If you say "Wait a minute, let's step back and examine this in terms of history..." they just scream "bigot!"

(01-18-2019 04:39 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote: This is because of media-induced hysteria. The media promotes a disease or problem and then suddenly scads of people claim they're suffering from it, when they didn't even know it existed the month before.

The same thing happened in the 1970s, when people thought they were "possessed" by the devil and priests conducted exorcisms. Then in the 1980s, Satan moved to daycare centers.

We also got anorexia and bulimia which no one had, then everyone had when it made all the magazine covers.

Then in the 1990s, we had "recovered memory syndrome" where women suddenly remembered abuse from their childhood and somehow got judges to put their fathers in prison for imagined crimes (look it up).

The media drives this, but in order for it to take hold, people have to buy into it.

What really troubles me is that no one ever seems to be able to bring a sense of context to all of this, least of all newspaper writers. If you say "Wait a minute, let's step back and examine this in terms of history..." they just scream "bigot!"

(01-18-2019 04:39 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote: This is because of media-induced hysteria. The media promotes a disease or problem and then suddenly scads of people claim they're suffering from it, when they didn't even know it existed the month before.

The same thing happened in the 1970s, when people thought they were "possessed" by the devil and priests conducted exorcisms. Then in the 1980s, Satan moved to daycare centers.

We also got anorexia and bulimia which no one had, then everyone had when it made all the magazine covers.

Then in the 1990s, we had "recovered memory syndrome" where women suddenly remembered abuse from their childhood and somehow got judges to put their fathers in prison for imagined crimes (look it up).

The media drives this, but in order for it to take hold, people have to buy into it.

What really troubles me is that no one ever seems to be able to bring a sense of context to all of this, least of all newspaper writers. If you say "Wait a minute, let's step back and examine this in terms of history..." they just scream "bigot!"

There's some real psychological issues going on here. We have no idea what her home life or relationship with parents was like.

That said, this is the end result of feminism's war on femininity. If feminine traits are weak and submissive, they're bad, and if masculine traits are strong and independent, they're good.

Of course, in order to sell this, the Left can't even admit such ideas as feminine traits or masculine traits. They're just 'good' or 'bad' traits (LEADING = good vs following = bad, INDEPENDENCE = good vs dependence = bad, etc).

And yet it hasn't occurred to them that the very phrase "rapid onset gender dysphoria" belies it as being a form of psychosis. I thought the whole idea behind trannies was that they always felt like they were the opposite gender, and the argument was that their brain was wired for that gender and they needed surgery to correct their outward appearance to match their brain.

This sounds more like someone having a nervous breakdown, deciding that cutting off their genitalia will make it all better, and doctors obliging them. Quite in keeping with such other fine historical medical practices such as leeches, lobotomies, eugenic sterilization of negroes and the retardeds...

No matter how wonderful someone's life is, they will feel oppressed or unfairly treated at least some of the time. Sometimes with cause, but often even from people who love them dearly and go out of their way to favor them.

When a precious snowflake comes from a loving home and starts hearing in college how oppressed she is, she's likely to eat it up, and turn into the most twisted, ungrateful, and ruined person possible. If college and the rest of society promoted wholesome values, they would be fine, but in the current year, they more or less go insane.

I'm the tower of power, too sweet to be sour. I'm funky like a monkey. Sky's the limit and space is the place!
-Randy Savage

"What was she like before this? No, not a tomboy as a child. She was an ambitious student, an animal lover, she loved to spend time in the kitchen baking. As for gender, she was typical (whatever that means). For her high school prom, she had her hair and makeup professionally styled. She wore an elegant gown which revealed ample cleavage. As for her friend group in high school, she aligned herself with social activists."

This is a trend that started with the Baby Boomers that carried down to the Millennials, this passive refusal to define what constitutes cultural norms. Parents treat their kids like such snowflakes that they don't want to categorize and hold them to cultural norms because "they can do anything," and in turn, their kids grow up self-obsessed and confused because they have no identities and quickly lose themselves in a sea of cultural Marxism and propaganda. It's no wonder this girl came back from college as a mentally broken xir-thing that her parents wouldn't recognize in high school. This girl's parents screwed up along the way. Their first mistake was refusing to accept that they have a daughter that needs guidance and control valves to ensure that she knows who and what she is and her place in the world. All the Marxism in the world won't break a person who is culturally rooted from proper upbringing.

1: Who and how are all of these procedures and treatments being paid for?

2: Why does the daughter here seem to have absolutely no problem or issue getting the money for the treatments and procedures, meanwhile other people with all kinds of medical and health problems are left to suffer because they can't afford any health care and no one seems to care about helping them?

The big universities will tack all medical expenses onto existing student debt if you're enrolled in their student health plan and use their teaching hospitals.

(01-19-2019 11:45 AM)Repo Wrote: While I'm sure this is a real phenomenon, this entire article reads like poorly written fiction. Why does both the entire article and the "emails" all sound like they were written by the same person?

I think it's because the chain of events follows a real rigid pattern and the parents have no information on what actually occurred on campus. None of the cases involve a girl who commutes from her parents' home and etc.

(01-19-2019 10:36 AM)Gremlin Wrote: "What was she like before this? No, not a tomboy as a child. She was an ambitious student, an animal lover, she loved to spend time in the kitchen baking. As for gender, she was typical (whatever that means). For her high school prom, she had her hair and makeup professionally styled. She wore an elegant gown which revealed ample cleavage. As for her friend group in high school, she aligned herself with social activists."

Don't forget the second part. She was a SJW but her mom wasn't worried about her because, like her friends, she knew how to slut it up to land a man. "She wore an elegant gown which revealed ample cleavage." Odd that her mom would mention that. Her daughter knew (early) how to use sexuality to get attention and that's okay and normal. Her daughter was a SJW lunatic but that's okay and normal. Her daughter takes some roids and grows a mustache and THAT'S where the line is crossed?

Her mom was grooming her daughter to be a weirdo but the girl just took it a little further than expected. She'd be happy if her daughter was a college party girl, going to protests, hating Trump, blaming men for everything and wearing a pussy hat.

I don't know about this specific story, but if you think something like that is not possible search for "antes e depois da federal" or go to this thread https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-61274.html to see what propaganda and indoctrination is capable of

Not sure how much a parent can do to curb so much social engineering during their child's day to day life.
After they've left home to live in a post-modern gulag? Good luck

It really appears that higher education is more of a risk than an opportunity these days
Better send your son to read the forum and work as an apprentice for the local mechanic and arrange a marriage for your daughter

(01-18-2019 12:30 AM)EvanWilson Wrote: As few examples of people that I know with medical problems having problems paying:

A: A friend in his early 70s had to pay out of pocket several hundred dollars for a hearing aid in order to be able to hear at a level to be able to carry on a conversation or listen to tv.
B: Another friend had to pay several hundred dollars for dental work because Medicare did not cover it.
C: Friends in the past who had to wait until Tuesdays to go to a clinic run by a church to get health care or treatment for various problems.

Ya know, I really have no sympathy for these people, they are simply accelerating their self destruction.

I hope this movement continues to gain traction - the sooner the fallout occurs, the better. Once all these SJW/trannies start killing themselves and writing books about how miserable their lives were, I think we'll be able to move past all of this. But who knows, maybe they'll find a way to blame men on everything once again.