Hillary Clinton’s inner circle has a reputation for loyalty, not to mention secrecy. As secretary of state, Clinton famously set up a private e-mail server in the basement of her Chappaqua, New York, home, where she stored thousands of communications—some of which contained classified information. But according to a series of leaked e-mails—stolen by hackers from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and published by WikiLeaks—not even Clinton’s closest confidants knew about her so-called “home brew” server.

“Did you have any idea of the depth of this story?” Podesta asked Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook, hours after The New York Times published a bombshell report revealing that Clinton “exclusively” used a personal e-mail during her tenure at the State Department. “Nope,” replied Mook. “We brought up the existence of emails in reserach [sic] this summer but were told that everything was taken care of.”

A few months later, as Clinton’s e-mail scandal snowballed, Neera Tanden, the president of the Center for American Progress, e-mailed Podesta shortly before an appearance on CNN, as she was going through some talking points about Clinton’s then rival, Bernie Sanders. “Do we actually know who told Hillary she could use a private email? And has that person been drawn and quartered?” she asked. “[This] whole thing is fucking insane.”

Not everyone in Clintonworld was so shocked. In another e-mail exchange released by WikiLeaks on Wednesday, former Clinton policy adviser Anne-Marie Slaughter wrote to New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman in 2015 that “everyone” at the State Department used private e-mail in addition to their government accounts. “OTR, EVERYONE I knew at State used our private email (I used Princeton) when we were out of the office except for our blackberries, which were State issued) because it was so incredibly clunky and difficult to get onto the State system when we were not in the office,” she wrote. “We sent sensitive but unclassified documents to our private emails so we could work on them at home and then sent them back to our work emails.” Former secretary of state Colin Powell, Clinton’s predecessor, also explained in a separate leaked exchange how he used a personal computer connected to a private phone line so that he could “communicate with a wide range of friends directly without it going through the State Department servers.” Powell even used the setup to “do business with some foreign leaders and some of the senior folks in the Department on their personal email accounts,” he wrote to Clinton in 2009.

Donald Trump has seized on the trove of leaked Podesta e-mails in recent weeks, describing their revelations as a “window” into the “secret corridors of government power.” The Clinton campaign has blamed the cyber-attack on Russia and accused WikiLeaks of acting as on behalf of the Kremlin to influence the presidential election in favor of Trump.