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Theological Newsflash: "Jesus Wife" document is authentic.

Before I go on a short holiday, I thought I'd better share this, so I have a nice long discussion to read when I return. I personally think it doesn't matter much, but I suspect many will disagree or cry blasphemy.

Before I go on a short holiday, I thought I'd better share [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/jesuss-wife-fragment-is-not-a-fake-scientists-claim-9253395.html]this[/url], so I have a nice long discussion to read when I return. I personally think it doesn't matter much, but I suspect many will disagree or cry blasphemy.

But Brown University Professor Leo Depuydt, in an analysis also published Thursday by the Harvard Theological Review, remains unconvinced and argues the text contains grammatical errors that a native Coptic speaker would not make.

The above quote from the article, mentions a professor that is convinced the document is fake. (This is a different professor than the Harvard professor, Karren King, mentioned earlier in the article.)

However, Prof King has stressed the text does not prove Jesus actually had a wife, but suggests ancient Christians wrote about this possibility.

The professor who believes the document is real, but does not believe the document proves anything about a wife.

I'm going to quote the article.\r\n\r\n[quote]But Brown University Professor Leo Depuydt, in an analysis also published Thursday by the Harvard Theological Review, remains unconvinced and argues the text contains grammatical errors that a native Coptic speaker would not make.[/quote]\r\n\r\nThe above quote from the article, mentions a professor that is convinced the document is fake. (This is a different professor than the Harvard professor, Karren King, mentioned earlier in the article.)\r\n\r\n[quote]However, Prof King has stressed the text does not prove Jesus actually had a wife, but suggests ancient Christians wrote about this possibility.[/quote]\r\n\r\nThe professor who believes the document is real, but does not believe the document proves anything about a wife.

Either way, the WEPR regulars consist mostly of a. People who do not believe in Jesus or that the Biblical account of him is valid, so this would be irrelevant (as the Bible wouldn't be a reference), andb. People who believe the Bible is true and aren't about to be convinced that Jesus was married, especially since the only proof is a news article that doesn't even affirm that the text is a real firsthand account.

The article is insecure about one manuscript that possibly suggests Jesus may have had a wife in one line where she is named a disciple (who had, for some reason, never been mentioned before in any translation of the current Bible).

tl;dr Not enough evidence to start a discussion.

Either way, the WEPR regulars consist mostly of \r\na. People who do not believe in Jesus or that the Biblical account of him is valid, so this would be irrelevant (as the Bible wouldn't be a reference), and\r\nb. People who believe the Bible is true and aren't about to be convinced that Jesus was married, especially since the only proof is a news article that doesn't even affirm that the text is a real firsthand account.\r\n\r\nThe article is insecure about one manuscript that possibly suggests Jesus may have had a wife in one line where she is named a disciple (who had, for some reason, never been mentioned before in any translation of the current Bible).\r\n\r\ntl;dr Not enough evidence to start a discussion.

Is the family not a central topic of christianity? As a reminder, a wife is an important part of traditional families. Assuming Jesus is a role figure, even from a christian perspective I fail to see how this would be blasphemous. Of course I understand that elder conservative people would never allow a woman to be next to their god, but you know.. theoretically speaking...

Is the family not a central topic of christianity? As a reminder, a wife is an important part of traditional families. Assuming Jesus is a role figure, even from a christian perspective I fail to see how this would be blasphemous. \r\nOf course I understand that elder conservative people would never allow a [i]woman [/i]to be next to their god, but you know.. [i]theoretically speaking[/i]...

Is the family not a central topic of christianity? As a reminder, a wife is an important part of traditional families.

There already is an example of family for Christianity, Jesus, Mary, and Joseph.

Of course I understand that elder conservative people would never allow a woman to be next to their god,...

Except that the Virgin Mary is a woman and gave birth to Jesus and that there are several devotions too Mary in Anglican, Eastern Orthodox, and Catholic churches.

[quote]Is the family not a central topic of christianity? As a reminder, a wife is an important part of traditional families. [/quote]\r\nThere already is an example of family for Christianity, Jesus, Mary, and Joseph.\r\n\r\n[quote]Of course I understand that elder conservative people would never allow a woman to be next to their god,...[/quote]\r\nExcept that the Virgin Mary is a woman and gave birth to Jesus and that there are several [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_devotions]devotions[/url] too Mary in Anglican, Eastern Orthodox, and Catholic churches.

The above quote from the article, mentions a professor that is convinced the document is fake.

But on the flimsiest of grounds. The language of the text indicates the intended audience more than it does the author's preference.

[...] (who had, for some reason, never been mentioned before in any translation of the current Bible).

Seeing as the "current" bible is the refined product of many centuries of editing that followed the first translation and weeding out of apocrypha, I don't consider that to hold much weight.

I'm curious as to why this is a big deal. Sure, there was mention of chastity, but marriage doesn't preclude that. The bible as we know it makes no mention of a wife, but why should it? There are many things that aren't touched upon in the bible, very likely because they weren't considered relevant to the story.

[quote]The above quote from the article, mentions a professor that is convinced the document is fake.[/quote]\r\n\r\nBut on the flimsiest of grounds. The language of the text indicates the intended audience more than it does the author's preference.\r\n\r\n[quote][...] (who had, for some reason, never been mentioned before in any translation of the current Bible).[/quote]\r\n\r\nSeeing as the "current" bible is the refined product of many centuries of editing that followed the first translation and weeding out of apocrypha, I don't consider that to hold much weight.\r\n\r\nI'm curious as to why this is a big deal. Sure, there was mention of chastity, but marriage doesn't preclude that. The bible as we know it makes no mention of a wife, but why should it? There are many things that aren't touched upon in the bible, very likely because they weren't considered relevant to the story.

Well, Christianity doesn't accept the other non-canonical works that discuss Jesus or other parts of Christianity. I don't know why they would accept this.

The non-canonical Bible is really interesting to read.

Well, Christianity doesn't accept the other non-canonical works that discuss Jesus or other parts of Christianity. I don't know why they would accept this. \r\n\r\nThe non-canonical Bible is really interesting to read.

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