Afleck has the physical attributes and acting skills to pull this however I can't imagine a convincing Batman voice coming from his mouth._________________On a clear day they'll see us from the beaches.

Who really cares? He's just going to have a cameo in Man Of Steel 2, which is going to suck.

A Justice League movie is probably never going to happen since every part of setting it up has bombed so far. Green Lantern bombed. MOS barely floated. Wonder Woman fell apart in development hell. If they do a Flash movie it will bomb too.

The new Spiderman was a marginal success because of the Marvel hype and on account of the last one sucked. They have no such precedent with Batman, and doing another Batman movie anytime in the next five years will doom it.

DC dropped the ball and they think that they can seriously stand toe to toe with Marvels Avengers movie franchise just based on the lingering popularity of Nolan's Batman._________________The absurd man thus catches sight of a burning and frigid, transparent and limited universe in which nothing is possible but everything is given, and beyond which all is collapse and nothingness. He can then decide to accept such a universe and draw from it his strength, his refusal to hope, and the unyielding evidence of a life without consolation.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:28 am

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Taral-DLOSMaster

Joined: 23 Nov 2010Posts: 1743Location: Ontario, Canada

Dog-Poop_Walker wrote:

Who really cares? He's just going to have a cameo in Man Of Steel 2, which is going to suck.

Dude, have you seen the logo for Man of Steel 2? I will be very surprised if Affleck's role is limited to a cameo. He's a principle character of the movie._________________"I'm...from Earth."

I had fun with it. My wife, who loved the books, didn't care much for it (it diverged from the books in some serious ways that she didn't like).

My biggest problem was that it left out critical parts of the backstory. If you read the book, you got it. But as someone who didn't read it, I was out of the loop. I don't think it was intentional; I think they tried to cut out backstory that was above and beyond the story they were telling (you can't include every story element from the book). But that choice wasn't executed well, and I was left wondering "what's his deal?"

But I had fun, and that's the minimum I expect from any movie.

I also decided to re-watch Star Trek: Nemesis and District 9 yesterday. Good times. Also: most of Season 1 of Modern Family (one of the funniest shows on TV right now.)_________________"I'm...from Earth."

I also decided to re-watch Star Trek: Nemesis and District 9 yesterday.

Nemesis has gotten a lot of flak for its well justified plot holes and the chase sequence on Kolarus III is a little stupid, but I enjoy it far more than the clunky Insurrection and Generations.

Posted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:03 pm

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Jedi JoeMaster

Joined: 11 Jun 2009Posts: 1565

Dog-Poop_Walker wrote:

Who really cares? He's just going to have a cameo in Man Of Steel 2, which is going to suck.

A Justice League movie is probably never going to happen since every part of setting it up has bombed so far. Green Lantern bombed. MOS barely floated. Wonder Woman fell apart in development hell. If they do a Flash movie it will bomb too.

The new Spiderman was a marginal success because of the Marvel hype and on account of the last one sucked. They have no such precedent with Batman, and doing another Batman movie anytime in the next five years will doom it.

DC dropped the ball and they think that they can seriously stand toe to toe with Marvels Avengers movie franchise just based on the lingering popularity of Nolan's Batman.

Batman will have much more than a cameo in MoS2. And from what it looks like, they'll introduce Flash, Wonder Woman, etc. in Justice League before giving them spin-off films because they aren't very marketable by themselves. (But, then again, neither was Iron Man back in the day...)_________________

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 3:15 am

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Dog-Poop_WalkerMaster

Joined: 28 Jan 2012Posts: 1080Location: Of Puppets

Jedi Joe wrote:

they aren't very marketable by themselves. (But, then again, neither was Iron Man back in the day...)

I don't know what you mean by this. Are you saying that until the first Iron Man movie Iron Man wasn't considered marketable? Maybe that's true, but the plan from film one was always to build up to Avengers.

I really have no idea if making a Justice League movie and then making spin offs will work for DC, but I'm reasonably certain that it wouldn't have worked for Marvel which is why they did the reverse. Going back to Iron Man, would his film have worked if he was first introduced in a stand alone Avengers film before going solo? Hard to say. Probably not.

I say that Superman was a bomb because it didn't do very good, but it was actually a success because it did better than projected. Yes, DC was counting on it bombing.

Why would they do that? Because Superman was a test. I think superman 2 will be a test as well. Based on that I think that we can expect to see at least one more DC movie going forward...perhaps Wonder Woman in Superman 3?... until Justice League. Maybe it's not such a bad idea after all._________________The absurd man thus catches sight of a burning and frigid, transparent and limited universe in which nothing is possible but everything is given, and beyond which all is collapse and nothingness. He can then decide to accept such a universe and draw from it his strength, his refusal to hope, and the unyielding evidence of a life without consolation.

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:19 pm

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Alan Skywalker VMaster

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Olympus Has Fallen.

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At the basic level, a good film. Though the prologue doesn't have much to do with the rest of the film, it was still a good setup, showing the First Family celebrating Christmas together and the relationship of Secret Service Agent Michael Banning with President Asher, his wife, and particularly their son ... a relationship that changes abruptly in a tragic accident on an icy Washington bridge.

The film then jumps forward 18 months, to July 5th, and this is where the main plot begins. The bulk of the movie covers roughly 24 hours, from dawn on the 5th to dawn on the 6th. Before sunset, President Asher, top members of his cabinet, and the visiting South Korean delegation are held hostage in the presidential bunker, at the mercy of a ruthless North Korean terrorist named Kang and a Secret Service turncoat. The rest of the Secret Service Agents (except Banning, who now works a desk job at the Treasury) and scores of others - civilians, police officers, military officers - are dead, fires rage in the White House, and Speaker of the House Trumbull must step into the vaccum of power. In a scene that is almost surreal, Kang's men tear down the bullet holed Stars and Stripes from the flagpole and toss it over the roof, where it floats to the ground in slow motion as the sun sets.

The only hope that the captive President has is for the disgraced Banning to infiltrate the White House and rescue him.

And Banning does.

By dawn, Kang and his men are dead, but the cost is high: the vice president was killed in the bunker after an unsuccessful counterattack and the Secretary of Defense tortured, while an unknown number of US soldiers have died trying to take back the White House.

Despite how good it is, I have several problems with the movie.

First, the fact that the Secret Service could be caught so off guard and were practically letting themselves be cannon fodder for the terrorists' attack. They seemed to be out in the open a little too much.

Second, Agent Roma's radioed warning to the SS Director before he was killed. In no way did it evoke the suspense I expected. If he had been shot and managed to radio Jacobs with his last breath, and they had showed Jacobs' reaction as Roma's words came over the radio, it might have been more dramatic, but the way it was written it fell completely flat.

Third, the Cerberus codes. Are we really supposed to believe it would be so easy to have cracked Asher's code once Kang had the other two?

Fourth, the language. I know OHF was R rated, but the near constant f- and s- words was a little too much.

Still, this was a good movie and one I will probably add to my collection. However, due to the violence, I likely will not watch this one over and over, but only occasionally.

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:23 am

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Taral-DLOSMaster

Joined: 23 Nov 2010Posts: 1743Location: Ontario, Canada

I enjoyed Olympus Has Fallen.

Free advice: watch "White House Down."

My analysis: both of these movies are the same concept (terrorists take over the White House, President trapped inside, Only One Man Can Save The Day^(tm), and there's a subplot involving a child). Basically Die Hard, in the White House.

Olympus Has Fallen is that, played straight.

White House Down is that, but played over-the-top. It's a lot less realistic, but a lot more fun.

My wife and I had more fun with White House Down, because we were spending a lot of time laughing._________________"I'm...from Earth."

Olympus Has Fallen could have been so much better, but it was very awkwardly paced IMO, and Gerard Butler's acting was a bit laughable. I was looking forward to it, but I was very disappointed when I saw it opening weekend..._________________

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:39 pm

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Alan Skywalker VMaster

Joined: 10 Apr 2011Posts: 621

Taral-DLOS wrote:

I enjoyed Olympus Has Fallen.

Free advice: watch "White House Down."

My analysis: both of these movies are the same concept (terrorists take over the White House, President trapped inside, Only One Man Can Save The Day^(tm), and there's a subplot involving a child). Basically Die Hard, in the White House.

Olympus Has Fallen is that, played straight.

White House Down is that, but played over-the-top. It's a lot less realistic, but a lot more fun.

My wife and I had more fun with White House Down, because we were spending a lot of time laughing.

I intend to rent WHD when it comes out on DVD.

Joe, I thought the pacing was fine and Butler played his role pretty good. It's the near constant s- and f-bombs that really irritated me.

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 5:03 pm

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Jedi JoeMaster

Joined: 11 Jun 2009Posts: 1565

Stay far away from Elysium then...

When regarding the pacing to OHF, it just seemed that they tried to drag on fast-paced action sequences out too long. The 25-minute scene of people doing nothing but shooting each other on the White House lawn reminded me so much of the battle at the middle/end of Transformers 3. It just felt so awkward and I felt they could have gotten the point across in shorter time, while focusing on other scenes.

Not saying it was a bad film, but I had high-hopes going into it and I was disappointed.

This is in contrast to White House Down, which I thought was going to suck, but I was pleasantly surprised. _________________

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:13 am

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Dog-Poop_WalkerMaster

Joined: 28 Jan 2012Posts: 1080Location: Of Puppets

Forget that, watch Air Force One._________________The absurd man thus catches sight of a burning and frigid, transparent and limited universe in which nothing is possible but everything is given, and beyond which all is collapse and nothingness. He can then decide to accept such a universe and draw from it his strength, his refusal to hope, and the unyielding evidence of a life without consolation.

May consider seeing in in theaters, but to me it's just a spin off Transformers series that just happens to be set in the same universe as the previous 3 movies.

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 4:57 pm

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GrandMasterMaster

Joined: 26 Aug 2011Posts: 584Location: Earth Jedi Temple

Dog-Poop_Walker wrote:

Forget that, watch Air Force One.

I second that!_________________"But it was so artistically done."

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