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Since their inception DISH has had a limit of 6 RECEIVERS per account, and a maximum of 4 TUNERS may be leased. How many old receivers do you still have on your account? Over the last 13years have you upgraded and not removed the receiver from the account but stored it in the "closet"?

Directv with in the last year has set a 6 receiver limit for leased receivers.

OK, I called again and got a knowledgeable CSR. According to her, you are allowed to have 4 TUNERS on your account. The 622 is considered a dual tuner because it can go to 2 TVs. The 612 is considerd a single tuner since it can only go to 1 TV. Ridiculous. So according to DISH I have:
522: 2 TUNERS
622: 2 TUNERS
622: 2 TUNERS
for a total of 6 (3 receivers)

When I got my 2 622s, there was no 612. Each 622 is used on 1 HD TV. I asked if I could 'downgrade' my 622s to 612s so I could add another receiver, and the answer was NO. I was grandfathered in with my 622s and 522 so DISH considers me to have 6 TUNERS, thus the 6 TV comments. Dumb Dumb Dumb! They can't make any changes since I have more than the allowed number of tuners.

Clearly DISH needs to get their act together here. If the 612 had been available I would have got one, so having all those tuners is DISHs fault, not mine. It's just bad PR to long term customers.

Now I have to go buy a receiver. Oh, I don't have any old receivers lying around. I did have an old 201 but it's long gone.

OK, I called again and got a knowledgable CSR. According to her, you are allowed to have 4 TUNERS on your account. The 622 is considered a dual tuner because it can go to 2 TVs. The 612 is considerd a single tuner since it can only go to 1 TV. Ridiculous.

When I got my 2 622s, there was no 612. Each 622 is ised on 1 TV. I asked if I could 'downgrade' my 622s to 612s so I could add another 1, and the answer was NO. I was grandfathered in with my 622s and 522 so DISH consideres me to have 6 TUNERS, thus the 6 TV comments. Dumb Dumb Dumb! They can't make any changes sine I have more than the allowed number of tuners.

Clearly DISH needs to get their act together here. If the 612 had been available I would have got one, so having all those tuners is DISHs fault, not mine. It's just bad PR to long term customers.

Now I have to go but a receiver.

Anyone have a 612 they don't want?

Call to cancel the service, you will be transferred to their "customer specialist" department, they will have more power to rearrange your setup and throw in some bonus to get you to stay.

They will not disconnect you at the first level, don't be afraid to say it so you can talk to someone for real.

They should be able to change it to: 612, 612 and 622, and throw in three months of free premium packages and $10 off a month for a year just for your trouble:)

OK, I called again and got a knowledgeable CSR. According to her, you are allowed to have 4 TUNERS on your account. The 622 is considered a dual tuner because it can go to 2 TVs. The 612 is considerd a single tuner since it can only go to 1 TV. Ridiculous. So according to DISH I have:522: 2 TUNERS622: 2 TUNERS622: 2 TUNERSfor a total of 6 (3 receivers)

When I got my 2 622s, there was no 612. Each 622 is used on 1 HD TV. I asked if I could 'downgrade' my 622s to 612s so I could add another receiver, and the answer was NO. I was grandfathered in with my 622s and 522 so DISH considers me to have 6 TUNERS, thus the 6 TV comments. Dumb Dumb Dumb! They can't make any changes since I have more than the allowed number of tuners.

Clearly DISH needs to get their act together here. If the 612 had been available I would have got one, so having all those tuners is DISHs fault, not mine. It's just bad PR to long term customers.

Now I have to go buy a receiver. Oh, I don't have any old receivers lying around. I did have an old 201 but it's long gone.

To the OP: you already have support for 6 TVs, so likely your 522 is listed as owned, meaning your pair of 622s are leased. As others stated, Dish will only lease you 4 TVs worth of receivers, and anything beyond that you must purchase. This is why nearly all customers who want larger systems end up with DirecTV, as it is significantly less expensive to have a high receiver count. DirecTV has a 20-receiver per account limit, but each TV needs a receiver.

HDMI and Component are both hot on the VIP622. So you can connect both to two separate HDTV's.

I don't know if this will meet your needs but it may.

My setup includes two VIP622's which are located in our basement.

The first VIP622 is connected via HDMI to my 47" HDTV LCD.The second VIP622 is connected via component out to the same 47" HDTV LCD.The second VIP622 is also connected to a 32" HDTV LCD upstairs using HDMI.The RF from both VIP622's are also combined and sent to other sets in the house.

I have 40 foot of HDMI cable from monoprice.com which run from my second VIP622 upstairs.

I use both VIP622's in single mode.

It is also possible to use splitters with HDMI but my setup was simple.If someone desired they could take one VIP622 and feed eight HDMI sets with a powered HDMI splitter.

If the sets must be independent then this is not the answer. But if you can use some of the sets with the same programming then this may be the way to go.

If you have a large HDTV downstairs for example and another in your living room are they both on with different family members watching both sets? If not then those two sets could have the same feed without issue.

One good thing about this type of distribution is the recordings on the hard drive are not on several different receivers.

Dispite the official rules on tuners and receivers, they have made exceptions. 3 leased dual tuner DVR's are not uncommon. Not sure if they will make the OP an exception for 4, but if he contacts ceo@echostar.com and explains his situation, they might. Especially if he is a longtime customer with a higher priced package.

Dispite the official rules on tuners and receivers, they have made exceptions. 3 leased dual tuner DVR's are not uncommon.

It's actually VERY uncommon, but, yes, it has been done. Only the Executive Office has the ability to authorize this, and there usually has to be some extenuating circumstances (where Dish bears some fault) before it will happen. That's not the case here.

Dish's policies are what they are. The lease limit is a big reason that the lease prices are so low (free, in many cases, to new customers, even for advanced equipment). At some point, if you want more, you have to pay.

If you have 2 622s, I'd kill the 522, and use the TV2 on both to feed the SDTVs powered by the 522. Maybe then you could add a 612.

To me, it's a reasonable limit. Dish is willing to subsidize a reasonable amount of equipment. But if you have a lot of TVs, they don't want to have to charge everyone else for your excess.

Also, the 6 box limit. This is so no one tries to turn a residential account into something that covers a MDU. More than 6 HDTVs, or more than 12 TVs total? not many with that problem in a single residence.

It's actually VERY uncommon, but, yes, it has been done. Only the Executive Office has the ability to authorize this, and there usually has to be some extenuating circumstances (where Dish bears some fault) before it will happen. That's not the case here.

Dish's policies are what they are. The lease limit is a big reason that the lease prices are so low (free, in many cases, to new customers, even for advanced equipment). At some point, if you want more, you have to pay.

THANK YOU!!!!! I'm sick and tired of people throwing up 'email ceo@echostar.com' for every little thing that doesn't go their way, or perceived unfairness. GET OVER IT. Sorry to go off-topic... </rant>

DISH 625 dvr

The opinions posted on this site are my own and do not represent DISH Network's positions, strategies or opinions. Unless I decide to be bad or call out an idiot...

Are you watching all 6 TV's at the same time with different programming? GROG's suggestion should work if you are willing to have the same programming at the same time on 2 of your HDTV's.

HDRobert's idea to ditch the 522's and feed them the 2nd tuner from the 622/722 would work too if you need every set to have seperate programming availability. Ditching the 522 and adding another 622 or 722 would leave you with one HD DVR in single mode and 2 in dual mode.

There may also be a technical reason for the 6 tuner limit. How many outputs can the largest multiswitch handle from a single dish 1000? Even with the DPP seperators at each dual tuner box, the multiswitch may be maxed out, requiring you to get a 2nd dish 1000 for the 7th tuner.

The largest multiswitch is the DPP44, which will support 4 receivers (including dual-tuner, dual-output receivers), and 3 can be trunked together to support 12 receivers from a single dish. But DPP44 switches are expensive, and are generally only given away when a customer needs to see 4 satellite locations, such as 1000+ dish customers.

The current 1000 dishes (1000.2, 1000.4/1000.5) support 3 receivers, for a max of 6 tuners/6 TV outputs, without having to go to a DPP44.

Systems larger than 6 receivers are absolutely possible, but requires an internal Dish FSM (Field Support Manager) to approve. Basically, the FSM has to sign off that all the receivers will be used in the same house. If it's a 3 BR house, there'd have to be a good reason. If it's a 14-bedroom McMansion, well, that's pretty straight-forward.

If you don't get what you want, DUMP DISH. When they jerked me around I did the one thing we can all do as consumers-take your money and go elsewhere. I went to U-verse and couldn't be happier. Since I got rid of DISH, they have called me numerous times ACTUALLY OFFERING ME MORE GENEROUS TERMS than the ones I wanted to stay back when I was haggling with them. Now they can stick their service .

Just to clarify ...
I have 3 TVs and am adding a 4th (large family). They are in very separate parts of the house. The 4th TV is for my disabled stepson. He cannot work nor drive. He watches a lot of TV. I'm just trying to work out getting him a receiver. Right now he's watching the Living Room which already has 62 timers on it. His shows often conflict with ours. We'll probably end up buying him a receiver, or have him save his disability money until he can afford to buy one.

The reason I have dual tuners is that single tuner receivers were not availablw when they were installed.

That being the case, I feel that the dual tuner issue is DISH's problem. I needed single tuners and they gave me dual. What I want now is 4 single tuner receivers. They can't seem to work that out. They don't want to trade my duals for singles, an option I suggested.

That being the case, I feel that the dual tuner issue is DISH's problem. I needed single tuners and they gave me dual. What I want now is 4 single tuner receivers. They can't seem to work that out. They don't want to trade my duals for singles, an option I suggested.

it's not a case of don't want to, it's a case of cannot currently. There is a shortage of vip612's currently, I wanted 2 myself, but have to wait...

Plus, if you've been a customer more than a year, the 612 was not available when you got the 622s, so there was no option then...

DISH 625 dvr

The opinions posted on this site are my own and do not represent DISH Network's positions, strategies or opinions. Unless I decide to be bad or call out an idiot...

Just to clarify ...I have 3 TVs and am adding a 4th (large family). They are in very separate parts of the house. The 4th TV is for my disabled stepson. He cannot work nor drive. He watches a lot of TV. I'm just trying to work out getting him a receiver. Right now he's watching the Living Room which already has 62 timers on it. His shows often conflict with ours. We'll probably end up buying him a receiver, or have him save his disability money until he can afford to buy one.

The reason I have dual tuners is that single tuner receivers were not availablw when they were installed.

That being the case, I feel that the dual tuner issue is DISH's problem. I needed single tuners and they gave me dual. What I want now is 4 single tuner receivers. They can't seem to work that out. They don't want to trade my duals for singles, an option I suggested.

I take it that you tried the specialist department and it was still a no go?

Yes, the specialist basically said that they could not do anything ...now. As was stated, there aren't really a lot of 612s to go around. Alos, you can only swap/upgrade 1 unit per year. I could swap a 622 for a 612, but then I would have to wait a year to swap the next. On it goes. I'm just going to buy one off ebay or somwhere. I have the DPP (Dish Protection Plan) so the unit is covered regardless.

Yes, the specialist basically said that they could not do anything ...now. As was stated, there aren't really a lot of 612s to go around. Alos, you can only swap/upgrade 1 unit per year. I could swap a 622 for a 612, but then I would have to wait a year to swap the next. On it goes. I'm just going to buy one off ebay or somwhere. I have the DPP (Dish Protection Plan) so the unit is covered regardless.

What a pain...

If I understand you correctly, you have two 622s and one 522 on the lease, why couldn't you upgrade your 522 to a 612?

If you have to buy another one, still ask the specialist what is the best deal E* can sell you one. Over a year ago they offered me $399 to purchase the 3rd 622, I did not take it. The 622s are now no longer in production, the price might be lower.