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View Poll Results: Are the Republicans trying to rig a presidential election?

Re: Are the Republicans trying to rig a presidential election?

I support the idea. It does away with swing districts/counties. If more people think their vote counts then they are more likely to vote. I thought democrats were all about voting rights for people......guess not really.

Re: Are the Republicans trying to rig a presidential election?

Originally Posted by waas

So, essentially, you want give make the votes of those living in rural areas count more than those living in urban areas.

That is exactly the Republican plan. They know they can't win by actually getting more votes, considering the previously mentioned hateful positions towards nearly everyone who isn't a white, heterosexual, Christian male. So they're trying to make their votes count for more.

Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik

Congressional districts are generally of the same size populations. Rural districts tend to be geographically larger while urban districts are geographically smaller. What of it?

That's not even a little bit true. Rural districts have WAY fewer people in them than urban ones. Seven New York counties compose half the state's population, and the other fifty-five the other half. That's three cities, NYC, Rochester, and Buffalo. Many cities comprise a single county, while a large rural area may have a tenth as many people and be divided into several counties. This is nothing but a move to make those mostly empty rural districts count for more than the dense urban ones.

There is absolutely no reason to muck about with electoral votes and winning states. No state population is homogeneous, so no candidate can win by appealing to the interests of one state over another, since states don't really have different interests like that. The only fair system is a direct popular vote. Every person counts the same, and nobody needs to care about where they live.

Re: Are the Republicans trying to rig a presidential election?

Originally Posted by Ikari

Both sides are doing their damndest to rig any and all elections. It's not limited to one side of the Republocrats.

Now that I agree with.

AUSTAN GOOLSBEE:I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

Re: Are the Republicans trying to rig a presidential election?

Originally Posted by Fisher

I support the idea. It does away with swing districts/counties. If more people think their vote counts then they are more likely to vote. I thought democrats were all about voting rights for people......guess not really.

Why not national popular vote? True Democracy?

“People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.”
*Adam Smith*

Re: Are the Republicans trying to rig a presidential election?

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Several battleground states have Republican parties firmly in control of the state congress's are deciding, proposing legislation to not award all the EC votes to the winner but by congressional district.

The issues that I see with this new development

Gerrymandering of districts has made a mockery of fairness in the states.

Will create a constitutional crisis at some point and violence in the streets.

How would this effect the election? I'll let someone else post all the numbers. But, here's an example from what the Republican senate did in Virgina. Obama won the election in the state, But due to gerrymandering, Romeny would have been given 9 EC votes and Obama 4 EC votes.

Both of the major parties are guilty of trying to rig elections in their favor. They enact laws to weasel out 3rd parties on state ballots,they deliberately exclude 3rd parties from debates, and they rig districts to be in their favor.And the media aids in this vote rigging by ignoring 3rd parties and only props up candidates they want from each of the major parties to win.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

Re: Are the Republicans trying to rig a presidential election?

Originally Posted by Paschendale

There is absolutely no reason to muck about with electoral votes and winning states. No state population is homogeneous, so no candidate can win by appealing to the interests of one state over another, since states don't really have different interests like that. The only fair system is a direct popular vote. Every person counts the same, and nobody needs to care about where they live.

True. However you CAN (and the Democrats have made a living over the last 40 years) by appealing to the interests of the LARGE URBAN AREA Voters over those of the rest of the country. We are no longer a Government of the citizenry. We are a Government of the Large Cities. New York, Boston, Dallas, Los Angeles, etc.... have more power than the rest of the country combined simply due to the population density they have.