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CollegeFootballTalk on NBCSports.comMon, 03 Aug 2015 00:22:25 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: normtidehttp://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/16/ucla-jacks-up-washington-to-stay-in-pac-12-title-hunt/#comment-150493
Sat, 16 Nov 2013 21:13:55 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150493Realfootballfan- Thank you for the insight. My view is from way afar. It’s a shame, because I would think they could be sleeping giants. Bordering southern California and Utah helps recruiting. Utah produces some great recruits per capita, but you have BYU, Utah, and state all fighting for them. I still say the PAC needs a couple of programs to step up, if you want to compare them to the SEC.
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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 21:11:42 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150492cali49er707,
In today’s landscape, you are right. There are only a handful of teams outside of the SEC who can compete with them. Those schools being Texas, the other two legacy Florida schools, USC, and maybe Ohio State just because Urban Meyer has deep ties into the South but it remains to be seen if he could convince enough of those thoroughbred players to supplement his roster in the Midwest when those teams in the South have virtually their whole rosters stocked with them. Notre Dame could be if they’d drop their ridiculous academic standards to what it was back in the early 90’s.
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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 21:04:22 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150491normtide,

From living out here in AZ for a few years now, I’ve learned the landscape of things here and that their two state programs just aren’t big boy football. From afar, I used to think they should be amongst the powerhouses, too.

As one of my friends who has worked in the media for the past 20 years says, they are stepping stone jobs. He then proceeded to point out how they get b-level candidates for their coaching ires or athletic director searches, with the promising ones quickly moving on like the recently departed AD to Texas who clearly seemed to come to Tempe to get the resume AD experience filler somebody at Texas told him he would need to get that job. And compared to what I’m used to coming from the South and even at FSU which doesn’t exactly pour money into it’s athletic programs compared to the Alabamas and other powerhouses of the world, I have to say their efforts are pretty pathetic.

If Rodriguez wasn’t so toxic after the Michigan debacle, I’d be convinced he’d be jumping as soon as he had a 10 win season, and that might still happen even with the Michigan debacle on his resume if you ask me.

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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 19:42:34 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150479The PAC isn’t a dumpster fire, they are clearly the #2 league. Every year there is a different league they compare to the SEC. The next year the SEC is still there, but the contender is new. That is what seems to be different this year, I think the PAC will be right there next year. You need USC to return to prominence, and maybe another team yo emerge as a national contender. That’s three thing with the SEC, thereare four or five programs that are expected to be able to make a run. Stanford, Oregon, and a restored USC could do that. UCLA could step up, but really two years away. Washington probably won’t, so to me one of the Arizona schools have to step up. Both programs have location advantages, both have shown investments into the football programs. If you want the PAC to take that final step, the state of Arizona may be key.
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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 19:33:17 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150478balfe13,

This is what I’m talking about. He’s been there nearly 5 years now. Maybe he’s just not that good of a coach, which is the case from what I’ve seen. What do you need to see him do, get another recruiting class because for the longest, I heard he just needed to get all of “his guys” in there. Unless I can’t do math, that’s the case now, the conference isn’t exactly a powerhouse since the best of the Pac 12, USC, is down, and you’re still losing to joke programs like Arizona State and the like.

Huskie fans just need to face it, he’s Lane Kiffin with a better outward demeanor. You ever wonder why they were co-offensive coordinators at USC, like one guy couldn’t do as poor of a job as they did together?

I know Washington used to have higher standards and then just let themselves go with hires like him and Tyrone Willingham, lol. Sad, but maybe they’ll be back after this regime and finally get it right again.

Me being a college football fan, I know that. It was kind of an absurd point I was making to drive the point home that the Washington program is stuck in neutral and should be doing much better than they are, especially with USC going through their turmoil and UCLA being pretty bad themselves until Mora showed up. This was one of the premiere programs not only in the Pac 10, but in the entire nation 25 years ago or so.

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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 18:47:17 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150474“Give Sark a QB that can avoid injury and then see what he can do.”

Saying Sark can’t win because his QB got injured is basically saying Sark can’t win because the only guy with talent on the team is his one QB.

If any QB in one of the Top 5 teams went down, I’m guessing they’d still figure out a way to win rather than make excuses. Think Baylor. If RGIII went down, Nick Florence would have taken over. Not bad. If Florence went down last year, Petty would have come in. Not too shabby. And if Petty were to go down this year, I’m betting Seth Russell would fare pretty well.

You’re tacklin the wrong problem here. I think what “Sark can do” is exactly what he’s done. 7 wins a season. That’s not going to put them back in the elite.

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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 18:38:55 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150473Stanford isn’t physical “in the trenches”? Utah, Az St, UCLA are all very very physical teams. Don’t confuse fast football with fitness. After all, Mizzou is the top team in the East.
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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 17:50:03 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150471Give Sark a QB that can avoid injury and then see what he can do. They pulled within a field goal, but Price was out. They are physical and talented, just look at players like Shaq Thompson and Stringfellow. Sark is a great coach. Washington was a laughing stock before he arrived. Give the guy another couple years before you decide.
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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:56:31 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150466the Pete Carroll coaching tree is turning into a rotting stump
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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:49:23 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150465I suppose I misinterpreted the veracity of your comment “If you still think there’s a gap between these conferences, you’re either not paying attention or you just don’t know what to look for.”

I still see the Pac-12 as more of a finesse and speed league, whereas the SEC is more of a strength and speed league. In a rugged game like football, ceteris paribus (i.e. speed), strength tops finesse. Until the Pac-12 addresses its strength, primarily in the trenches, it will not close the gap with the SEC. The Pac-12 may distance itself from the Big 12, Big Ten, and ACC, but the gap with the SEC will remain.

I luv SEC football and fail to see where I “talked smack”. The SEC and PAC are clearly 1 – 2 THIS SEASON. What the SEC has done with winning nat’l championships is unprecedented and will never be replicated by any other conference.
THIS SEASON is new and the quality and depth in these two conferences is far and away better than any other conference. I wish the SEC and PAC played head-to-head bowl match up … That would be great for the fans and college football.

Your statement is a dinosaur. It used to be true, but now it’s dated. Just like the SEC, the PAC is rising to the top because all the member schools are spending money and hiring great great head coaches. If you still think there’s a gap between these conferences, you’re either not paying attention or you just don’t know what to look for.

Btw. Myles Jack was recruited by most ever SEC school and don’t you love how Jim Mora uses him.

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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 08:48:53 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150443Yes. As someone from Washington, you are absolutely right about the inferiority of WSU. Even the best offensive player on UW’s roster right now, Bishop Sankey, is from Spokane, which is significantly closer to WSU’s campus (an hour or so) than Seattle (4 hours).
UW is finally starting to get some respect back after the disaster it had become; give the man a chance to get some recruits and he will make a real run.
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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 08:36:15 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150442@real football fan

Never lived or been to Washington state in my life but, sure looks beautiful. That being said even me being Cali born & raised your claim is dog(huskies) $h!+. Everyone who ever watched the PAC 10 or PAC 12 would know WAZZU could never hold Washington U’s tightly rolled joint at a frat party let alone when it comes to sports.

Washington doesn’t lose recruits to WAZZU. The Cougs are a joke

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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 08:07:15 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150441To be honest. Who REALLY gives a damn ?? I’m a west coast cat born & raised but, even I know the real football collegiate lay is played in the SEC. Them boys in the south can ball
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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 06:12:44 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150434No, F sark.
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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 06:10:18 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150433Are Washington fans going to keep making excuses for why Steve Sarkisian is patently mediocre? I know he took over a train wreck, but he’s not much better than his old buddy, Lane Kiffin, and they probably need to be getting themselves a real coach any time now before Washington State passes them.
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Sat, 16 Nov 2013 05:49:48 +0000http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=319412#comment-150432I sure am glad we recruited Myles Jack from the strange alien planet of superhuman football-playing athlete life forms!
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