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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

well, at this stage, behind that mask there could have been every f...g "killed" Uchiha from that night....

that would explain many character and mood changes (Tobi childish with stupid voice, Tobi sage, Tobi badass, Tobi long hair, Tobi Danzo-hair etc..) and aswell the fact that Tobi fought Minato (aka who was really fighting Minato and who was it really who showed Kisame his face ? etc...).

This could be explained by looking at someone behind the scenes who uses various "Tobis" (dead Uchihas) like Nagato did with the Six Paths of Pain (crazy I know, but ye... why not lol ?). Combine that with Zetzu's powers aaaand CHAPEAU !!! xD

All we have seen was a mask, an eye and some mood changes accompanied with different haircuts and many forbidden uchiha jutsus as well as a HUGE knowledge about Uchiha power and their past. This all would fit if you combine the many knowledges of different dead Uchihas of THAT night.

again, sounds crazy but ... WHY NOT ? ( so even it could have at some stage been Fugaku, others or like now it seems Obito-like )

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

Originally Posted by sugar4free

well, at this stage, behind that mask there could have been every f...g "killed" Uchiha from that night....

that would explain many character and mood changes (Tobi childish with stupid voice, Tobi sage, Tobi badass, Tobi long hair, Tobi Danzo-hair etc..) and aswell the fact that Tobi fought Minato (aka who was really fighting Minato and who was it really who showed Kisame his face ? etc...).

This could be explained by looking at someone behind the scenes who uses various "Tobis" (dead Uchihas) like Nagato did with the Six Paths of Pain (crazy I know, but ye... why not lol ?). Combine that with Zetzu's powers aaaand CHAPEAU !!! xD

All we have seen was a mask, an eye and some mood changes accompanied with different haircuts and many forbidden uchiha jutsus as well as a HUGE knowledge about Uchiha power and their past. This all would fit if you combine the many knowledges of different dead Uchihas of THAT night.

again, sounds crazy but ... WHY NOT ? ( so even it could have at some stage been Fugaku, others or like now it seems Obito-like )

Doesn't sound crazy to me. Excellent explanation. But is it too complicated for this manga? The new chapter releases soon enough. Can't wait.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

Madara unlocked his rinnegan shortly before his death.. i still assume that nagato's eyeballs were madara's.

Which means madara died somewhere between WW1 and WW2.
Obito 'died' in WW3..

There needs to have been a tobi from the moment madara died.. no one is going to tell me that that timegap is filled by zetsu or something.. cause if zetsu teached obito everything he's in no way going to become tobi's slave, like he is now.

there must be someone (tobi) using obito's body, having taken over the body orochimaru style, why obito? probably because he needed an uchiha and obito was there to pick up outside of konoha.

I also still believe that the plan was to bring madara back to life in tobi's body how they were planning to do that, we'll probably get to know later..

That's why tobi was mad saying nagato was supposed to use rinne tensei on him and why madara when walking out of the coffin said that little brat nagato must have grown..

All that or it is obito and he is influenced by a kotoamatsukami-like genjutsu being cast on him by the previous tobi, passing the torch.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

Alot of ppl jumping the gun are gonna feel dumb next few chapters when kishi drops a bomb on us, cmon guys its his style you should be used to it by now, I like how maga reviewers on utube are humoring it acting like theyre surprised.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

Ok I posted a previous theory but here is another one for you guys. Tobi made Kabuto show him exactly how to activate the reanimation Jutsu...is it possible that Tobi is still a mystery and just brought back Obito with an even more perfected reanimation jutsu than Kabutos...one that doesn't give that affect with the eyes and skin of the reanimated that we know now?

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

Originally Posted by sugar4free

well, at this stage, behind that mask there could have been every f...g "killed" Uchiha from that night....

that would explain many character and mood changes (Tobi childish with stupid voice, Tobi sage, Tobi badass, Tobi long hair, Tobi Danzo-hair etc..) and aswell the fact that Tobi fought Minato (aka who was really fighting Minato and who was it really who showed Kisame his face ? etc...).

This could be explained by looking at someone behind the scenes who uses various "Tobis" (dead Uchihas) like Nagato did with the Six Paths of Pain (crazy I know, but ye... why not lol ?). Combine that with Zetzu's powers aaaand CHAPEAU !!! xD

All we have seen was a mask, an eye and some mood changes accompanied with different haircuts and many forbidden uchiha jutsus as well as a HUGE knowledge about Uchiha power and their past. This all would fit if you combine the many knowledges of different dead Uchihas of THAT night.

again, sounds crazy but ... WHY NOT ? ( so even it could have at some stage been Fugaku, others or like now it seems Obito-like )

I actually thought about this when i saw the split personalities in tobi. The joler, the sympathetic tobi (when he was acting like he cared about sasuke when revealing itachi's past) , the dark side. It could be a possible route kishi can take.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

Whats everyones take on tobi's words. "Im only a shell of my former self". Does that sound like to u like its only obitos body with a different soul. The shell refering to the body. That hes only obitos body. Nothing more. What do u NBers think?

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

He was referring to himself as a young Madara to the Kages, they were still under the impression he was Madara at that point. Tobi is a known liar, I don't know what to believe concerning his words anymore

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

I always thought that Obito was Tobi, by the simply reason that Tobi is Obito in mirror... I hope nobody will say that it will be Obit and not Obito... Nobody going to say that shit, right? Good japanese boys! But everyone had a good reason for not believing Tobi is Obito! And in fact, there are information missing for we understand how can it be possible.

So... I never believed that this ****ing masked guy is Madara, and suspect since the beginning that the edo tensei that scares Tobi was the real Madara. But I still not thinking that this guy is really Obito, but someone using his body! That's a easy explanation.

Well, Kishimoto must have a VEEEERY GOOOD explanation for Obito being the real man behind the mask!

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I hope that Orochimaru is behind all this. That would be so epic. I love that Orochimaru knows everything and foresees everything that is going to happen so far in advance. He is one of my favorite characters, it's awesome that he's back. It would be hilarious if Kishi decides that Orochimaru is behind all of this Tobi stuff.

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Why would he get scared of someone he has never seen though if it is Madara?
Obito was in WW3 & Madara wasn't even in WW1/2? Everyone knows the guy pulled out was Madara & yet if it is Tobi he wouldn't even know what he looked like.

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Originally Posted by Omningan

i Can't believe this crap...
Naruto wiki has placed all of tobis doings and dealings under the obito uchiha profile... etc...

This is awesome stuff here. I can see you really did your work. However, with 90% of your reasoning can easily be explained by Madara meeting up with Obito at some point and training him and telling him all of these things. Coupled with the earlier things that "Tobi" did, that were too out of the question for Obito, were actually done by Madara it could make sense. As for the reasoning of why he picked Tobi, why Madara finally died, etc., I can't say. But it's also hard to believe ANYTHING Tobi claims to be or says. It's obvious that he's a pathological liar and anything that he says has to be taken with a grain of salt. I don't like Tobi being Obito as much as the next person, but I just can't wait for the explanation as to how all of this happened.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 599 Discussion and 600 Predictions

Posting for the first time. Well, I am not convinced by this masked guy being Obito after seeing all his abilities. Who the hell taught him so much under a stone and with one eye. As for Kakashi it would be a real shocker as a former team mate. Well whatever lets see what builds up.