Our government now provides many opportunities for citizens to debase and besot themselves and then cry that it’s not their fault. We provide incentives for it. How many government incentives are there to get off your ass and become self-sufficient?

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Scott Walker kicked public sector union ass, again, last night, and I know everybody is flying high over that, so please feel free to go off topic and crow. This is bad news for democrats and good news for America.

... Governor Olympics or The Black Messiah isn't going to make much difference.So public employee unions take a hit, the upper decile gets a tax cut and the rest get some scraps so they can buy some cheap shit imported from China.

Employment doesn't increase, health insurance becomes more expensive if you can get it and the upward transfer of wealth continues unabated.

Mittens or Obummer doesn't matter. Any progressive movement that might have been growing was killed by Clinton and we are going to have to wait a little longer for the decline to get a little worse to see what comes from the ashes but I fear it's going to be a militarist fascism.

Handouts to the wealthy are doing this country far more damage. But by all means do keep helping your corporate overlords by hating other Americans. Especially those who make less than you and are all scamming the system and even those who belong to unions and make a little bit more than you.

Yes, envy your neighbor who drives a Camry while you drive a Corolla and the fat cat in the BMW drives by giving you both the finger.

Lisa - If and when Romney wins... My take is it is bigger if that it is a when.

But hey it is a possibility. Obama won in 2008, and besides there is little integrity and principle left in either party today.

Irrespective of which statist wins the downhill roller coaster ride will continue. Of course with Obama it will be a bit faster, but it will occur under a Romney administration nonetheless...

Walker's win, is a good thing in many respects. We will just have to wait and see how much political capital it really generates for the Big "R' statist republicans trying to take back the White House from the Big "D" statist democrats.

This Hymn is dedicated to Governor Scott Walker of Wisconsin and those wise enough and aware enough to sing his praises and keep him in office. The stock market so far has responded with the biggest uptick we've seen in nearly a month.

I don't believe in smashing the unions, but they need to have their fangs removed, their claws blunted, their wings clipped, and their leaders should be given liberal doses of saltpeter with each meal for the foreseeable future.

I'm still trying to figure out what the marks, er Republicans think they have won.

Austerity? It's failed in Europe and it has been a failure in down economies every time it's been tried.

Controlling the public unions? Maybe. The stinking cops will still rob you blind as well as prison guards and the like. No, this is about teachers. The brilliant Rethug idea that if you privatize and pay teachers less education issues will be resolved.Whatever, seems bogus to me.

The idea that people who know how to make money for themselves somehow will work for your benefit?

That's so fucking stupid only a Libertarian could come up with it. It is true to a limited extent. As austerity cripples growth the oligarchs will see a drop in vigorish, er income and loosen up.

Is it the belief that the imbalance in private/public investment will be resolved? I doubt the right acknowledges public expenditures, other than drones, should even exist.

I know, it has something to do with freedom. You are more free now.Hard to stop laughing.

Okay, Silver, let's take your sleazy, specious, nasty, nasty, classist argument and see where it goes...

Well, Bernie Madoff ripped people off billions of dollars, so that means Wall Street creates thieving Investment Bums, so let's get rid of all private investing!!!

Or, young people routinely join the military to get the education benefits even though their families could afford university for them, creating Military Bums, so let's get rid of the entire military!!!

What a sleazy, specious, nasty, nasty, classist argument.

You cons regularly point out that greed is human nature and then you idiots have the unmitigated gall to bitch and moan that there are too many regulations and laws keeping people from behaving greedy.

Idiots.

Meanwhile, you idiots are just loving Walker's re-win in Wisconsin, lauding his attacks on collective bargaining, a pillar of the American Middle Class. You really just won't be happy until we are a third-rate, Third World hell hole, with a few rich people on top (whom you will continue to worship), and everyone else scrounging at the bottom.

"I'm still trying to figure out what the marks, er Republicans think they have won."They won (and reconfirmed) the confidence of Wisconsin citizens, who were smart enough to know that for big labor to petition for recall of Walker for no other reason but that they didn't like what he said he was going to do, was nonsense and a waste of time and money.

So Jersey, you're for welfare fraud then? Being a liberal democrat, it's no wonder...

Your arguments are specious and your equivalencies false.

Bernie Madoff broke the law, he goes to jail. System works. Where it doesn't work is when government grifters run the ponzi scheme.

Young people serving their country, often in hardship conditions and far from home are bums?

You're stupid, but that's what we expect from a liberal democrap.

I am not bitching about "too many regulations and laws keeping people from behaving greedy."

I am complaining that government enable sloth and stupidity, but since government is infested with democraps, it makes sense, because the stupid and the lazy vote for the democrats, unless they are so stupid they fall for a robocall that says they don't need to go vote.

And, genius, collective bargaining is not a pillar of the American Middle Class, that's pure progressive propaganda and you've bought it hook, line and sinker like the goose-stepping statist toady you are. Hard work and thrift are the pillars of the middle class.

Third world hell hole? Look at Obama's Chicago, completely dominated by the corrupt Democrap Machine.

"Where it doesn't work is when government grifters run the ponzi scheme."

Oh? What's that? SS? Medicare? Any welfare state at all???

Look man. Every historically memorable civilization had some sort of welfare state. The question is not whether or not to have it, but rather how to implement it.

You can point out aberrations in probably every single social program in the history of man, but you can not site a successful nation or state in that history that didn't have a significant welfare state of one sort or another.

Without some sort of welfare state, civilizations can actually become producers of barbarian hordes, a strange departure from the condition of the ancient Greeks, founders of our legal construction. Rather than keep out the barbarians, you guys seem to want to create them!

The system is so broken and it encourages this type of behavior. Much of the fraud would be eliminated with one simple fix. Pro-rate benefits when they get better paying jobs. Now if they make $1 more they are cut off completely. That makes no sense at all. I tend to stay away from saying things about the people, I prefer to stay on point that the system creates the fraud and underhandedness we see.

"I prefer to stay on point that the system creates the fraud and underhandedness we see."

Ghat has always been my position as well, Just a Conservative Girl.

The recipients of The System are even more victimized by it than the taxpayers who are forced to fund the rotten mess.

Demosthenes described the situation eloquently about 350 years before the birth of Christ:

"Like the diet prescribed by doctors, which neither restores the strength of the patient nor allows him to succumb, so these doles that you are now distributing, neither suffice to ensure your safety nor allow you to renounce them and try something else."

There's nothing new under the sun. The play has been the same for thousands of years. the only thing that changes are the names -- and locations -- of the players.

Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime.

2012 Update

Give a man a welfare check, a free cell phone with unlimited free minutes, cash for his clunker, food stamps, section 8 housing, free contraceptives, Medicaid, a hundred weeks of unemployment, a forty ounce malt liquor, free drugs and Air Jordan shoes, and he will vote Democrat for life.

Ducky, are you kidding? "Man, in addition to being stupid you are quite the bigot, Mr. Toy Soldier."?

What exactly is bigoted by Mustang's comment? Or are you the real bigot who assigns only Black Americans to Air JOrdans and welfare checks and food stamps? WOW, now THAT is bigoted. tsk tsk tskAnd, by the way "stupid" for Mustang? Man, you are the LOWEST and you're so needy to impress. who gives a damn what shoes you wear? yech.

... Governor Olympics or The Black Messiah isn't going to make much difference.So public employee unions take a hit, the upper decile gets a tax cut and the rest get some scraps so they can buy some cheap shit imported from China.

Employment doesn't increase

Tell that to Wisconsin. Walker has decreased theirs to 6.4% Oh, and a budget surplus!

The idea that people who know how to make money for themselves somehow will work for your benefit?

Yeah, it's called job opportunities and wealth creation. Really, all this stuff is like 5th grade, dude. Tell us again about your hyper-super, incredibly difficult freshman year in college where we would all be crying for mommy again, or something.

Ducky's here said...I'm still trying to figure out what the marks, er Republicans think they have won.

Austerity? It's failed in Europe

You've never heard of Estonia, then.

Yeah, it's a big hurly-burly out there. One little country succeeding where all the big eurosocials are failing.

Sixteen months after it joined the struggling currency bloc, Estonia is booming. The economy grew 7.6 percent last year, five times the euro-zone average.Estonia is the only euro-zone country with a budget surplus. National debt is just 6 percent of GDP, compared to 81 percent in virtuous Germany, or 165 percent in Greece…Estonia’s achievement is all the more remarkable when you consider that it was one of the countries hardest hit by the global financial crisis. In 2008-2009, its economy shrank by 18 percent. That’s a bigger contraction than Greece has suffered over the past five years…While spending cuts have triggered strikes, social unrest and the toppling of governments in countries from Ireland to Greece, Estonians have endured some of the harshest austerity measures with barely a murmur. They even re-elected the politicians that imposed them.

But, it's Estonia. Little countries don't matter. Other than the fact that they have a firm memory of what serious Socialism looks like. Up close and personal, too.

I love when hypocrites expose themselves.You want smaller government, but are willing to add thousands to the government roll to seek out voter fraud which is a non problem (.0028% fraud nationwide). Hire a government FDR like force of thousands to build a wall along Mexico, even though our bad economy produced by a 15 trillion dollar debt built by Republicans, has made illegal immigration disappear.Pronounce Walkers policies have created a balanced budget, but forget to say he got the money to balance his budget from the feds, which was supposed to be used for another purpose. Cry unions are destroying America, when union membership is below 9%.I could go on but either your stupidity, or crookedness won't allow you to see the truth.So keep lying, and cry fake righteousness, just as you cry fake facts and fake principles..

Purging voter rolls is done by county officials. Florida didn't hire any new people to do what they're doing right now.

I'm not for the wall with Mexico either, although I am for worker verification and proving you're an American citizen or legal resident before handing out government assistance.

As for Walker, the federal government hands out money to everybody, that the progressive way to suborn pliancy. He'd be a fool to reject it. He certainly put it to better use than building a choo choo train.

I never said unions are destroying America either, although they did do quite a destructive number on Detroit and the rust belt...

But please, do go on about my stupidity, crookedness and fake facts...

Love your candidate.He forces kids to the ground, holds them down, and cuts their hair. Assault, pure and simple. He was over 18 when he did that.He dresse4s up in a cops uniform, then pulls people over, with a red flashing light on top of his car. Some criminals have used that to rape women. Multiple felonies.The government is suing Walker over the misuse of federal funds, another crime, but that's OK with you.You should just leave America. We don't need people who approve of political criminals, and approve of the crimes they commit.

And Obama smoked dope, snorted cocaine and who knows what else. He pushed down girls on the playground, signed on with the far left New party when he was running for Illinois Senate, billed himself as a Kenyan to make himself more interesting, blew through $5 trillion like crap through a goose, and not only sponsored a bill to kill babies that survived an abortion, he passionately defended the bill on the Illinois Senate floor.

Now, provide us a link to the Walker misuse of funds, and not a kook lefty site, but something authoritative.

The Founding Fathers and those who fought in the Continental Army were our original Western Heroes, guided by the thinkers of the Enlightenment and following in the footsteps of great warriors like Jan Sobieski and Charles Martel.