This device is nothing more than what red necks with more money than sense call "bump firing". You loop your thumb through a belt loop then waste a bunch of rounds that you have no idea where they are going. It sounds sort of kind of like full automatic but isn't. The comment about the firing pin is silly. You can wedge the firing pin forward so that the weapon is now a blow back weapon rather than a gas operated weapon. You have also converted it into a runaway gun as once you pull the trigger it will either fire until empty or malfunction which is more likely.

RedMenace wrote:There is a way to modify the firing pin of a AR15 so that you get the same effect. Since it doesnt involve using any of the M16 parts, its a legal mod.

Tell us about it. Do you know the function of the sear in an M-16?

No, I dont.I have friends that play with guns everyday that have demonstrated the modded gun to me, and they have FFL's and own full auto weapons too. The one time I actually fired a full auto Tommy gun looking thing, it was so hard to control that it was impractical to me. And the cost of the bullets adds up quick.

RedMenace wrote:There is a way to modify the firing pin of a AR15 so that you get the same effect. Since it doesnt involve using any of the M16 parts, its a legal mod.

Tell us about it. Do you know the function of the sear in an M-16?

No, I dont.I have friends that play with guns everyday that have demonstrated the modded gun to me, and they have FFL's and own full auto weapons too. The one time I actually fired a full auto Tommy gun looking thing, it was so hard to control that it was impractical to me. And the cost of the bullets adds up quick.

Since that was a polite response, I will explain. The sear is what holds the hammer back in the safe position & what controls the hammer striking the base of the firing pin in either semi or automatic mode. You can replace the sear on a semi-automatic M-16 clone with one that allows automatic function but look on the left side of the receiver just past the "fire" position on the selector switch & you will see a little raised bump that prevents the selector from going further. You would have to grind this away but you would need to put a detent inside the receiver to prevent the selector traveling too far. On an M-16, CAR-15 or M-4 that little bump is 45 degrees further around the clock. At my age, I have no idea why I still clutter my brain up with stuff I no longer have any use of.

RedMenace wrote:There is a way to modify the firing pin of a AR15 so that you get the same effect. Since it doesnt involve using any of the M16 parts, its a legal mod.

Tell us about it. Do you know the function of the sear in an M-16?

No, I dont.I have friends that play with guns everyday that have demonstrated the modded gun to me, and they have FFL's and own full auto weapons too. The one time I actually fired a full auto Tommy gun looking thing, it was so hard to control that it was impractical to me. And the cost of the bullets adds up quick.

Since that was a polite response, I will explain. The sear is what holds the hammer back in the safe position & what controls the hammer striking the base of the firing pin in either semi or automatic mode. You can replace the sear on a semi-automatic M-16 clone with one that allows automatic function but look on the left side of the receiver just past the "fire" position on the selector switch & you will see a little raised bump that prevents the selector from going further. You would have to grind this away but you would need to put a detent inside the receiver to prevent the selector traveling too far. On an M-16, CAR-15 or M-4 that little bump is 45 degrees further around the clock. At my age, I have no idea why I still clutter my brain up with stuff I no longer have any use of.

Being polite was accidental, I could not care less about the workings of the AR15. I did see some parts that were used to make an AR15 type gun into a full auto model as they were being produced by a fellow employee in the shop here at my work. This guy made and sold the parts for about 10 years while he worked here until he sold a couple to an ATF agent and got about 5 years in federal prison.