Sunday, January 20, 2013

Please take away her rights

[S]ince most people like me are more likely to harm ourselves than to turn into mass-murdering monsters, our leaders should do more to keep us safe from ourselves.

Please take away my Second Amendment right. Do more to help us protect ourselves because what’s most likely to wake me in the early hours isn’t a man’s body slamming at my door but depression, that raven, tapping, rapping, banging for relief.

I have a better chance of surviving if I never have the option of being able to pull the trigger.

I have a much better idea. Since Ms Button clearly doesn't value her unalienable rights, and in fact, expresses a heartfelt wish to be relinquished of them, why don't our leaders take away her right to vote as well? It is entirely obvious that she is only going to harm herself and others should she ever make use of it.

She does provide a useful analogy, however, to show how responsible and freedom-loving men cannot do more to help women protect themselves from various evils, from crime by immigrants and other vibrants to being condemned to lives of poverty and lonely spinsterhood, because in post-suffrage America, women are actively preventing them from doing so.

Remember, the crumbling society in which we live is not merely the society that women wanted, it is the society they demanded.

The 13th amendment didn't outlaw slavery outright, it has a clause that allows for its use as punishment for committing a crime. Since this woman is practically begging for her rights to be taken away, she should be tried for treason against reason, and condemned to a life of servitude. Then she won't have to worry about too much freedom, mas'a will have everything taken care of for her.

This is quite literally the stupidest thing I've ever read. These people are usually so big on choice, so why doesn't she just continue to choose not to have a gun? If that's not sufficient, then, given that most women elect to attempt suicide through overdose with pills, we really should be outlawing those instead. It's for the chil- er, women.

If anyone still wonders why everything progressives touch produces the exact opposite of what they ostensibly want, it's because their philosophy is not only entirely orthogonal to reality, but maximally internally inconsistent:

Get the government out of personal end-of-life decisions!

Suicide should be prevented by any means possible, including legislation!

Is this woman a good example of how women use rhetoric instead of logic? I have been contemplating the rhetoric vs. logic idea for a few weeks trying to understand it better. Being a woman myself, logic probably isn't my strength, especially if I have to use rhetoric to understand it (that is, logic!).

At first I was annoyed with this woman. But after considering my own weaknesses my emotions have been replaced by an understanding that this woman just doesn't get it. First, she has either redefined the word "representative" to mean "leader", or does not know the definition of the word "representative". Then she displays her ignorance of the concept of inalienable rights. Then she draws an incoherent conclusion about every person in the United States' odds of survival increasing if the option of suicide by firearms is removed from her life personally. My head hurts just trying to understand what she wrote, much less her conclusions...

This might be too off topic to ask, so I recant the question if so, but has anyone considered the consequences of making property and gun ownership prerequisites to vote? Obviously untenable at this point, if at all...but may preserve the status quo...

With regards to this one, it's interesting how the gal completely misses how much accessibility of firearms has propagated equality between the sexes. God made man and woman; Col Colt made them equal, and all that. Without the equalizing structures put in place by man--social/legal and mechanistic, like guns--this woman wouldn't even be able to express this opinion. But she doesn't realize it, and she doesn't realize how vulnerable she'd be without firearms.

Firearm ownership is analogous to vaccinations; not everyone has to get one, but most people have to, in order for it to be effective.

Let's take away her 1st amendment rights, since she's obviously hurting many other people with them.In fact, let's just leave her that penumbra around the 5th Amendment, since it is likely the only one she cares about anyway.

As I've said before, I generally don't take my guns out and threaten my neighbors, but my neighbors routinely, every two years at least, drag out their ballots and wreak all sorts of havoc with my life. Common Sense Ballot Control Now! Who could possibly be opposed to responsible ballot ownership?

I mean, we always hear that the Founders never anticiplated assault rifles and grenade launchers. Well, the never anticipated idiot female voters like this woman either...

How, exactly, is it better to be submissive to the state and not a husband?

Easy. A woman (at least in this day and age) picks her husband, so if she picks wrong and gets a lousy husband, it's her fault. But the State? If that turns bad, well, easier for her to blamer her misery on someone else (and also feel no responsibility for fixed it).

"Remember, the crumbling society in which we live is not merely the society that women wanted, it is the society they demanded."

women DID demand it, and still do at this very moment, and the government, courts, schools, workplaces, and families are ruled by their own Wonderful Selves . . . and they VERY much like it that way

on whole, women also very much have enjoyed the disenfranchisement, degradation, suffering and criminalization of boys and men . . . and females make it clear that there is still a LONG way to go in their "liberation from oppression" before amerika and their world are finally Equal and Egalitarian

when this goes down -- and it will -- the surviving nations should look on amerika's destruction very closely, and never forget that the culture of iniquity, lies, and hatred were JOYFULLY EMBRACED and DEMANDED by females, because it awarded them all the power and resources and privileges their black little hearts could konsume

My absolutely kind neighbor just turned off my water at the curb. Even though he is well into his 60s he accomplished in about 10 seconds what I was too weak to do in 20 minutes. He looked at me and said, "God made men for a reason". I couldn't agree more...

The police were there in 30 seconds? Even living next to a station, I don't believe it. I smell a lie and where there's 1 lie, more are sure to follow.

The dog sat there silently? My last dog was so gentle and quiet (part malamute, emphasis on the mute) I commented to my wife one night that she was kinda useless as a guard dog and she told me that when I wasn't home, she was at the door growling every time anyone was walking up to the door.

I think she's making up the part about the dog too.

Had her little fiction turned out to be reality she'd be packing a gun now writing how women need to protect themselves since men are so dangerous and the police are so useless when seconds count.

Also, the US has a culture of suicide. Norway does to, but their cultural method is drowning. Now if Wendy B. lived in Norway, I'm sure she'd be protesting the access to Fjords and would want them all fenced.

I remember on 9/11/2001 watching some female news anchor asking some guest if we couldn't "trade some of our freedoms for more safety". Women can't give your freedoms away fast enough, and at the first sign of potential danger they drop all the facades of independence and power they claim to possess, as seeking safety becomes the most important thing in the world to them (and therefore to everyone else). Of course they don't look to an individual man for this safety, but rather big government, with whom they'll happily strike a devil's bargain of your freedom for their perceived safety.

Just as on an individual level, each women seems determined not to aid her man in his struggles, but rather add to them - on the macro level (all women in society) women are just as determined NOT to be a helpmeet to men trying to maintain civilization. Instead, women demand that it should all be about them - their needs, their fears. This allowed women to screw up society in two ways. First, by endlessly agitating for change to society (unrestricted mass immigration, free healthcare, free benefits for everyone but workers) all of which are to be subsidized at men's expense without men's approval. Second, having damaged society with their changes, women will run to big government to fix the resulting chaos with more total control on citizens which results in a loss of men's freedom. Having said that, I do agree with this woman that her rights should be taken away immediately. I just want to extend that further before women run everything into the ground.

This useful idiot (to the statist point of view) mewling about needing someone bigger than she to take away her rights (ever heard of self disipline?) provides a clear and disturbing picture into the real fear that independent women have of actual, true independence - that she must pull her own weight (no help, no subsidies), that she must be subject to actual consequences, that she must actually make herself worthy of a man to protect her, and that life really is full of potential dangers. Every woman that runs away once she gazes upon the reality and responsibilities of freedom, and turns her back on her duty to help men maintain civilization is a traitor to men and society and should be stripped of her rights and mustered out of the protected cocoon (America) that protects and sustains her (at men's expense).

Indulging women didn't make them happy. It only made them more demanding, more self-centered, and more polarized against men and that which would be good for society. Time to end the indulgence, and all of its freedom-ending and civilization destroying consequences.

Hyperion -- Second, having damaged society with their changes, women will run to big government to fix the resulting chaos with more total control on citizens which results in a loss of men's freedom. Having said that, I do agree with this woman that her rights should be taken away immediately.

you and me and that crazy lady all agree! ... a little skeery but hey! maybe Diversity is Good?

I just want to extend that further before women run everything into the ground.

well it's encouraging finally to hear reality break through the murk of denial... even if it took the threat of annihilation to prompt it

if the u.s. abased itself before God and said sorry and meant it, and your excellent demands were met, who knows? it could all whoosh back from the cliff edge for all i know

when you guys finally get tired of the Fempire's endless confiscation of your freedom and "rights" may i suggest you begin your reformation with commenter signe, she is just crying out for some authority

@ Signe I'm not sure why the U.S Presidents are being lumped in the same category as history's socialist mass murders, only you would know that. Was your point that if even one man has caused harm to civilization, then we should also excuse the women for their mischief? (i.e. two wrongs make a right)

I was thinking more along the lines of placing restrictions on each group so we can limit the damage that each group (dictators, women) are uniquely suited to, and historically have done.

This is the dreadful society and the country the worldview created with decades long incrementalism so once again we see that the female voting experiment was an epic failure that has cost over 30 million abortions.

Was your point that if even one man has caused harm to civilization, then we should also excuse the women for their mischief?

Just saw this a few months later...Sorry.

No. My point was that behind every mob of destructive women, there were men legitimizing their hamsters.

Remember who gave those men power back then.

If you're going to point at historical currents and say "We must understand this in order to save tomorrow", then you'd better get the cause of those currents straight, or else it'll just keep happening.