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08-30-2017
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I have this camera in my wife's car. It's decent but it has a few gotchas:
1. The cable provided is not long enough to be useful for a stealth install, so that will cost another ~$20
2. The USB connector doesn't take any 'ol USB cable for auto-power. It has to be a Garmin one. I had a wire running from my broken camera and I was not able to use it, every time you start the car it would ask if you wanted to use the camera in "Disk Mode" and you had to physically click a button to continue.
3. The US version does not record audio, may be a deal breaker for some

I have this camera in my wife's car. It's decent but it has a few gotchas:
1. The cable provided is not long enough to be useful for a stealth install, so that will cost another ~$20
2. The USB connector doesn't take any 'ol USB cable for auto-power. It has to be a Garmin one. I had a wire running from my broken camera and I was not able to use it, every time you start the car it would ask if you wanted to use the camera in "Disk Mode" and you had to physically click a button to continue.
3. The US version does not record audio, may be a deal breaker for some

Isn't it funny that reputed company like Garmin does not provide basic features like recording audio and giving short wires?. It would cost them another 20 to 30 cents for the wire.

Isn't it funny that reputed company like Garmin does not provide basic features like recording audio and giving short wires?. It would cost them another 20 to 30 cents for the wire.

Well, i believe in US, law states that one must get permission to record audio from all involved parties. That's the reason a reputed brand disabled audio recording when cheap Chinese brands allows the same. Having said that, I think ill buy some decent Chinese version for the same reason.

Well, i believe in US, law states that one must get permission to record audio from all involved parties. That's the reason a reputed brand disabled audio recording when cheap Chinese brands allows the same. Having said that, I think ill buy some decent Chinese version for the same reason.

If that is the case then I will get Chinese one. Sometimes laws doesn't make sense.

Well, i believe in US, law states that one must get permission to record audio from all involved parties. That's the reason a reputed brand disabled audio recording when cheap Chinese brands allows the same. Having said that, I think ill buy some decent Chinese version for the same reason.

it is true that in some states, the law says you must get consent to record the audio. it is also true that is many states, the laws does not force you to seek prior permission for more than one party. since you can really only create one sku, you have to decide if your product will allow it or not because you can only sell one product for all states.

if it were me, i would sell the product with audio disabled and allow the owner to take on the responsibility of activating the audio feature. may not completely absolve the manufacturer but think of it this way: mobile phones and home video cameras and baby cameras and other device including gopro cameras and net cams all face a similar challenge (with exceptions) and they are using different approaches but most do not completely forgo audio recording capability. this has nothing to do with china and more to do with usa manufacturers being misguided (i won't tell you how i know this...but i know). basically they are scared.

i am aware the law varies by state and it also varies by situation such as if you are in a car or in a public space or in a home or at a business or school, etc. do you get consent, do you periodically notify, is consent implied, how many parties, does your device look like a recording device, is it in plain sight, are there warning signs posted, etc. lots to consider when it comes to privacy.

there are 3 types of businesses: those like me who seek to understand the law and deal with it, those like china who don't care about the law and don't care about the product and launch it however they wish and will be immune to the stupidity and those that don't understand the law, don't care, and don't even try to understand the law and just disable to feature and move on.

many companies who use cameras for business reasons may want to capture the audio details. modern internet bloggers talk while they are recording. if you are part of a motor event, you want the sound. the police will definitely not silence their dash cameras in the police car are not void of audio on the body cam. such nonsense.

I have this camera in my wife's car. It's decent but it has a few gotchas:
1. The cable provided is not long enough to be useful for a stealth install, so that will cost another ~$20
2. The USB connector doesn't take any 'ol USB cable for auto-power. It has to be a Garmin one. I had a wire running from my broken camera and I was not able to use it, every time you start the car it would ask if you wanted to use the camera in "Disk Mode" and you had to physically click a button to continue.
3. The US version does not record audio, may be a deal breaker for some

just wanna npte that i buy cables on aliexpress, they cost about $4 for 3m(10ft) cables. $20 is insane, unless you are looking at insanely long cables. shipping might take long(for me, it's 2 to 5 weeks), but generally worth it.

it is true that in some states, the law says you must get consent to record the audio. it is also true that is many states, the laws does not force you to seek prior permission for more than one party. since you can really only create one sku, you have to decide if your product will allow it or not because you can only sell one product for all states.

if it were me, i would sell the product with audio disabled and allow the owner to take on the responsibility of activating the audio feature. may not completely absolve the manufacturer but think of it this way: mobile phones and home video cameras and baby cameras and other device including gopro cameras and net cams all face a similar challenge (with exceptions) and they are using different approaches but most do not completely forgo audio recording capability. this has nothing to do with china and more to do with usa manufacturers being misguided (i won't tell you how i know this...but i know). basically they are scared.

i am aware the law varies by state and it also varies by situation such as if you are in a car or in a public space or in a home or at a business or school, etc. do you get consent, do you periodically notify, is consent implied, how many parties, does your device look like a recording device, is it in plain sight, are there warning signs posted, etc. lots to consider when it comes to privacy.

there are 3 types of businesses: those like me who seek to understand the law and deal with it, those like china who don't care about the law and don't care about the product and launch it however they wish and will be immune to the stupidity and those that don't understand the law, don't care, and don't even try to understand the law and just disable to feature and move on.

many companies who use cameras for business reasons may want to capture the audio details. modern internet bloggers talk while they are recording. if you are part of a motor event, you want the sound. the police will definitely not silence their dash cameras in the police car are not void of audio on the body cam. such nonsense.

I understand, like you said, Garmin is probably trying to avoid 100s of stupid lawsuits on audio recording without consent by stupid owners claiming they were not not aware of the device recording it! For the same reason, most of the security cameras (good old security cams with recorders, not the new fancy IP cams) don't have audio!
Sorry OP, hope we aren't hijacking the deal thread. First time seeing a Garmin dash cam below $100!

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