I stick with Colt. I see the same upside with Colt as with all the others here and I'd rather not pay draft picks for 5% more chance of winning the lottery. Also, if Colt fails, we'll still be in a position to try and take a QB if we need one. At least, Colt gives us the best chance to be bad enough.

But I know almost nothing about any of the other options. I scout them all pretty hard and if H&H think that one of them has a better chance than Colt to be The Guy, go for it.

Give me Colt as well. Use our picks to either acquire the BPA or trade the picks to accumulate more ammo in the coming years. We can't wait until we have the first pick of the draft to snag a QB, but Tannehill doesnt excite me and Weeden is highly unlikely to end up as a top tier QB. No reason to get desperate, I'd rather see what comes next year.

Maybe we should just build the rest of the team up as best we can, filling as many holes as possible, in hopes that we can find our QB in the next year or two and when/if we do we can plug him right into a solid supporting cast.

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swerb wrote:More I think about it, the more I am leaning towards what Ziner just posted. Go with Colt this year.

Also not a player I love in that #4 slot. I'd be totally fine with the Browns trading it for a #1 next year, and some additional later picks this year.

Tempting, BUTTT the tradedown only works if there's someone at 4 that a team REALLY covets. Do Claiborne, Blackmon or Richardson reach that level? Not sure.

I will take a 3 and a 5 from STL to let them have Blackmon and move down to 6 where you have more value in selecting a DE. People will trade up if the asking price isnt exorbitant.

3 & 5 this yr.? To what end? We already have a surplus this yr. So, we'll get MORE mid-rounders?

Sure, or next, I dont care, more picks. I wouldnt classify our draft situation as a surplus, we have enough holes that a "surplus" of picks will come in handy. Especially for moving around and making trades to acquire more picks next year.

swerb wrote:More I think about it, the more I am leaning towards what Ziner just posted. Go with Colt this year.

Also not a player I love in that #4 slot. I'd be totally fine with the Browns trading it for a #1 next year, and some additional later picks this year.

Tempting, BUTTT the tradedown only works if there's someone at 4 that a team REALLY covets. Do Claiborne, Blackmon or Richardson reach that level? Not sure.

I will take a 3 and a 5 from STL to let them have Blackmon and move down to 6 where you have more value in selecting a DE. People will trade up if the asking price isnt exorbitant.

3 & 5 this yr.? To what end? We already have a surplus this yr. So, we'll get MORE mid-rounders?

Sure, or next, I dont care, more picks. I wouldnt classify our draft situation as a surplus, we have enough holes that a "surplus" of picks will come in handy. Especially for moving around and making trades to acquire more picks next year.

Better hope for another 4-12, 5-11 then. B/c a couple extra mid-rounders won't help you high enough if you're picking 10.

swerb wrote:More I think about it, the more I am leaning towards what Ziner just posted. Go with Colt this year.

Also not a player I love in that #4 slot. I'd be totally fine with the Browns trading it for a #1 next year, and some additional later picks this year.

Tempting, BUTTT the tradedown only works if there's someone at 4 that a team REALLY covets. Do Claiborne, Blackmon or Richardson reach that level? Not sure.

I will take a 3 and a 5 from STL to let them have Blackmon and move down to 6 where you have more value in selecting a DE. People will trade up if the asking price isnt exorbitant.

3 & 5 this yr.? To what end? We already have a surplus this yr. So, we'll get MORE mid-rounders?

Sure, or next, I dont care, more picks. I wouldnt classify our draft situation as a surplus, we have enough holes that a "surplus" of picks will come in handy. Especially for moving around and making trades to acquire more picks next year.

Better hope for another 4-12, 5-11 then. B/c a couple extra mid-rounders won't help you high enough if you're picking 10.

Outside of the first two rounds I am looking to accumulate as many as possible. For every five Antonio Perkins and Beau Bell's you get an Ahtyba Rubin. We aren't going to become super bowl contenders by just hitting on the first few picks, we need to hit on some late ones to even get to 8-8. The more chances you get the more Rubins you get....in theory.

swerb wrote:More I think about it, the more I am leaning towards what Ziner just posted. Go with Colt this year.

Also not a player I love in that #4 slot. I'd be totally fine with the Browns trading it for a #1 next year, and some additional later picks this year.

Tempting, BUTTT the tradedown only works if there's someone at 4 that a team REALLY covets. Do Claiborne, Blackmon or Richardson reach that level? Not sure.

I will take a 3 and a 5 from STL to let them have Blackmon and move down to 6 where you have more value in selecting a DE. People will trade up if the asking price isnt exorbitant.

3 & 5 this yr.? To what end? We already have a surplus this yr. So, we'll get MORE mid-rounders?

Sure, or next, I dont care, more picks. I wouldnt classify our draft situation as a surplus, we have enough holes that a "surplus" of picks will come in handy. Especially for moving around and making trades to acquire more picks next year.

Better hope for another 4-12, 5-11 then. B/c a couple extra mid-rounders won't help you high enough if you're picking 10.

Outside of the first two rounds I am looking to accumulate as many as possible. For every five Antonio Perkins and Beau Bell's you get an Ahtyba Rubin. We aren't going to become super bowl contenders by just hitting on the first few picks, we need to hit on some late ones to even get to 8-8. The more chances you get the more Rubins you get....in theory.

FFS, we've been doing that! A bunch of "solid/good players," with no playmakers is worthless, IMHO. It's a recipe for perpetual purgatory- 8-8.

This pain me to say, but stick with Colt, and save the draft picks for other holes.A year ago today QB was the last thing on our mind because more then half of the Fan base thought we had the next Bryan Sipe in McCoy . See what the kid can do with a full off-season, and a better understanding of offense. None of the other options excite me in the least bit.

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CleSportsTruth wrote: FFS, we've been doing that! A bunch of "solid/good players," with no playmakers is worthless, IMHO. It's a recipe for perpetual purgatory- 8-8.

Dude, if you want Blackmon at 4 then take him in your imaginary world. I am trying to play Heckert in this role. The dude that has taken 7 linemen with his 11 first round picks. IF (and emphasis on the IF) he is going to take a DE, which I view as likely given his past, then trade down taking what you can get to move down to 6-8ish. Doing that and getting a 3rd and 5th is better than taking the DE at 4. Just stating the obvious. If you want Blackmon or Claiborne, cool. I dont have a huge issue with that. I am just trying to play Heckert.

Colt McCoy isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Ryan Tannehill isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Brandon Weeden isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform.

Kirk Cousins isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Kevin Kolb isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Matt Flynn isn't going to lead you to a Super Bowl. He's not a franchise QB, I don't expect him to be in Honlulu in february in a red uniform

Is this settled? I don't want to hear anyone thinking otherwise. It's a pipedream.

But, you may as well get Flynn at this point. It frees you up to use that 2nd/22nd pick to go use it on building up the team, and pray that you can land another QB next year.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

Hell, if Peyton gets all emo and goes to Tennesee I'd take a year of Hassellback over this crap or drafting a probable failure.

If hell freezes over, and the tits allow us to trade for Locker, I'd be down with that too.

And what I mean with Flynn is this, He's not going to be a Superstar NFL QB we all want, but he costs..by far a lot less, and could be argued that he's at least an upgrade from Colt.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

CleSportsTruth wrote:You know what's funny? A week ago, half or more of the fanbase wanted Colt over RGIII, whatever the price. The other half (or less), represented here, did not.

Now, with no RGIII or Flynn out there, even the anti-Colts are back to him, for now. From a fan approval POV, H+H have to be thrilled that they didn't get RGIII.

A non-apathetic fanbase would riot over the prospect of a second yr. of Colt-as-starter. We seem to be inclined to accept it.

FTR: I'll take option #4- Weeden.

Disagree. I think even the casual fanbase wanted RGIII, even at a steep price.

Neither of us can prove this, but a LOT of people in the wider fanbase wanted to "give Colt another shot." "We have too many holes to fill." Etc. Pretty sure that was the majority opinion (I blame the Tim Couch and Brady Quinn experiences).