Video: Miss California’s ad against gay marriage

posted at 4:29 pm on April 30, 2009 by Allahpundit

In which the new “queen of the GOP” becomes the new face of traditional values. When the National Organization for Marriage said she was coming on board, I thought they meant she was going to cut a spot for them. Nope: This is just pageant footage, although she did show up at their presser today to promote the cause. Watch Greg Hengler’s video of her comments. Interestingly, both there and in the ad itself, the focus is less on making the case against gay marriage than on highlighting the shrillness and nastiness of its proponents. Whether that’s because the former is a losing battle or because they’ve gained some sympathy even among gay-marriage supporters after the way she’s been treated, I don’t know. What she says in Hengler’s clip about government making it unacceptable to even espouse such views isn’t terribly far-fetched, though: Britain’s well down the road towards granting this subject thoughtcrime status.

Click the image to watch the ad. Below that you’ll find her appearance this morning on “Today” to promote it, which ends with a question about Palin — and a surprisingly tepid answer, given what we know about Miss Cali. Note well the statement from the pageant committee scolding her for taking a stand on such a “divisive” topic, which of course they never would have done had she taken the opposite, politically correc view of it. Remind me again about this very divisive topic — whose side of the debate does the majority of the state she represents take?

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Note well the statement from the pageant committee scolding her for taking a stand on such a “divisive” topic, which of course would never have done if she’d taken the opposite view of it. Remind me again about this very divisive topic, on which side of the debate does the majority of the state she represents come down?

A topic that the pageant committee approved, I understand. Reasonable when asked, divisive when responded. Par.

99% of their comments are some variation of:
“omg, she’s so disgusting. she’s causing hate crimes, omg, omg, omg. she’s evil. i want to kick her in the face. she should get swine flu. her boobs are ugly. she looks like a tranny. the poor gays. she needs to be stopped! she’s such a c*nt”

the focus is less on making the case against gay marriage than on highlighting the shrillness and nastiness of its proponents. Whether that’s because the former is a losing battle or because they’ve gained some sympathy even among gay-marriage supporters after the way she’s been treated, I don’t know

As you said, Allah, CA voted yes for Prop 8. Don’t think that the former is a losing battle. But we are all tired of being bullied by the gay activists and Hollywood and the MSM. And if gay marriage is passed universally, expect even more hate toward the church and those who opposed gay marriage.

I was kinda disappointed she laughed off the Palin comparison, saying being in a beauty pageant was all they had in common. Really? Palin’s politics aren’t perfect but I hope that’s not all you guys have in common…

If she had won, she would have lost control of her agenda, her appearances, her viewpoints and privacy.
Her contract and control ended when she lost. If number 1 trips and get’s canned, trump will have a problem.

Just a note to Matt Lauer and Hot air. her franchise is Miss california USA. She is not the ordinary Miss California which is a contestant in the Miss America contest.

both there and in the ad itself, the focus is less on making the case against gay marriage than on highlighting the shrillness and nastiness of its proponents. Whether that’s because the former is a losing battle or

We know you’re no social conservative, but this statement has been proven false by one of the most liberal states in the country. Don’t try to lie to us trying to push your own flavor of conservatism.

Hate crime bill passed by the House yesterday. In Sweden, similar laws have caused the arrests or intimidation of pastors and those who refuse to support the gay lifestyle. Hate crime laws are tolerant of everyone except the church.

On another subject, as has been acknowledged by other HA commenters, Carrie has another thing in common with Sarah besides being a beauty queen, graciousness.

As you said, Allah, CA voted yes for Prop 8. Don’t think that the former is a losing battle. But we are all tired of being bullied by the gay activists and Hollywood and the MSM. And if gay marriage is passed universally, expect even more hate toward the church and those who opposed gay marriage.

Christian Conservative on April 30, 2009 at 4:56 PM

More than 6 million people voted against prop 8. They weren’t all against the church. More than 60% of voters 30 and younger voted against prop 8. Unless they change their minds with age, the 5% difference in the vote could be different next time.

Hate crime bill passed by the House yesterday. In Sweden, similar laws have caused the arrests or intimidation of pastors and those who refuse to support the gay lifestyle. Hate crime laws are tolerant of everyone except the church.

Carrie Prejan is a beautiful woman, with some talent, and a pleasant personality. If she hadn’t been set up by Perez Hilton’s question, then attacked for her conservative answer, she’d almost certainly be out of the headlines.

At this point, everyone involved seems to be attempting to profit from the publicity incited by Hilton’s abusive and intolerant drama. This includes Miss Prejan. If pageant officials attack her again, the publicity, drama, and profiteering will continue.

I hope Miss Prejan can devote enough time to actually have a traditional marriage with a good man, have some babies, and raise them well.

If being gay is genetic how does it still exist? Gay people cannot reproduce. So if it was built into them, the first mutation of whatever gene you claim causes this would have ‘Darwined’ itself out of existence every time it popped up.

If being gay is genetic how does it still exist? Gay people cannot reproduce. So if it was built into them, the first mutation of whatever gene you claim causes this would have ‘Darwined’ itself out of existence every time it popped up.

Given the fact that Palin took the stimulus money, and Ms California spoke against the bail outs and such…seems to me she is right of Palin, and Palin isn’t as conservative as people here make her out to be.

or why do people call themselves bi? How is it both a lifestyle choice, and genetics?

And is it impossible for a gay person to not be turned on by the opposite sex?
Or how about the cases of kidnapped girls who are continually raped, who fall in love with their captures? Could it be that when sex is involved, even if it is undesirable at first, it becomes something the body confuses as good?

I think the whole argument of nature vs. nurture is a non-issue in reference to homosexuality. Even if born that way, it in no way validates the lifestyle in the eyes of society. They want to use this issue to thumb their noses at religeous groups by saying “God made them that way”, and to somehow equate themselves with the racial equality movement. It is interesting how on the one hand people champion how we humans are able to surpass our genetic limitations, yet the homosexuals try so hard to prove they are slaves to their genetic makeup.

If a gene that causes homosexuality is ever really found, what would they say if a “cure” is found by gene treatment.

Unless they change their minds with age, the 5% difference in the vote could be different next time.

dedalus on April 30, 2009 at 5:21 PM

Actually, most people do change their minds with age. That’s why all the talk of the youth vote is generally overrated. Not only are they unreliable as youth, their views more often than not change with age and experience.

I’m not saying that I know homosexuality is a choice, but those are horrible arguments to try and prove it. So is saying that no one would choose to be gay because of all the hardship that comes with it. People who have sex with cars and buildings likely feel the same, and yet I doubt anyone here would try to defend them.

Furthermore, if anyone has the argument that their life has been made worse for a sexual attraction, it’s pedophiles, who are the lowest of the low in our society. Many of them likewise claim they never wanted this, many even choosing to be chemically castrated rather than risking a repeat.

And yet, I rarely hear anyone argue that they were born that way, but who would choose to be interested in children? Anyone?

Again, I’m not even arguing that people aren’t born that way. I just don’t buy the arguments people use to try and prove it, if only because I know most people, wouldn’t buy it from any one with a different sexual taboo.

what? This is intellectually dishonest to the extreme. I don’t know any conservative that advocates we should abort gays if the gene is found, or advocates rounding up the gays and kill them like Hitler did the Gays and the Jews and handicapped.

what? This is intellectually dishonest to the extreme. I don’t know any conservative that advocates we should abort gays if the gene is found, or advocates rounding up the gays and kill them like Hitler did the Gays and the Jews and handicapped. Conservative Voice on April 30, 2009 at 6:40 PM

I didn’t say they did. Of course the option doesn’t yet exist whether an unborn child might be gay or not.

From that interview i get the sense that against everyones hope that she is a Conservative she is indeed a Obama Conservative. One that falls in as a seldom used term as religious left. ie Rick Warren

Yes the name “Republican” is a bad name but, to scoff at the idea and not hold it proudly above ones head even as a RINO shows that she is not even a RINO she is an religious Obamaite but with God not Barry as the lord.

Yes, as they do with arranged marriage as you pointed out above. However, the participants usually have something that compels them–family pressure, community pressure, property ownership, religious belief. However, those factors are not now required by the state when two people ask it to recognize their marriage.

Commitment is the most important part of marriage. I think a marriage license should be more difficult to obtain, forcing couples to show some basic level of seriousness–right not it is easier to get than a drivers license.

I thin it’s a good ad and there should be more with a similar theme. Most people are against Gay Marriage, no point in trying to remind them why. It is smart to take a page from the Gay Marriage Lobby’s playbook and personalize the issue. Why should their charges of bigotry and intimidation tactics go unanswered? Everytime they accuse someone of being a bigot or threaten a persons career, it should be exposed in these ads. One thing people don’t like more than gay marriage is being called a bigot, racist or homophobe. People are sick and tired of these intimidation methods and this is how this issue should be dealt with for now on.

Kelly McGillis, the actress, came out of the closet today at the tender age of 51 after two failed marriages and two children. If you have the time read about what she has to say.

SC.Charlie on April 30, 2009 at 6:15 PM

I can tell you that she most certainly chose to be gay. “I got married two times and had children. I (apparently) have been jerked around by men for all this time. You know what, I’m going to play for the other team.”

No one goes that long and suddenly says “Oh shit, I’ve been gay all this time”.

in this day and age, do we not pick our spouse? Choice. Speaking as a man, sex is the desire, but morality dictates that I am to do the responsible thing and get married, and only have sex with her. Choice Choice Choice.
There are a few guys who want to get married for the sole reason to have kids…but that is about as common as how many people call themselves gay.

There are a few guys who want to get married for the sole reason to have kids…but that is about as common as how many people call themselves gay.

Conservative Voice on April 30, 2009 at 7:23 PM

That might vary a lot by age. A young guy may tend to fall in love with the woman and put kids off. An older guy who has dated a lot may view marriage primarily as a means to raise a family.

In either case it is fairly common for guys to look at some girls as primarily a fun time and other girls more as marriage material. My point being that while sexual attraction is a big consideration the desire to have children raised well is also something that compels. (The same can be said for women’s motivations).

It is so surreal that one of our nations biggest pageants, which is supposed to promote and celebrate womanhood, is actively bashing, attacking and discriminating against one of their own contestants simply because the contestant believes in and is a proponent of marriage.

How anti-women can you get?

They’re basically telling her to sit down and shut up! How empowering is that for women?

She isn’t saying anything controversial! The pageant and Hilton are!

The Miss USA pageant is now officially a radical gay activist organization.

This past year has been a terrible year for women, with all of the misogyny and savage attacks leveled against Hillary Clinton, Sarah Palin and also Geraldine Ferraro, and now with this Miss USA fiasco.

The message is “sit down and shut up women. No one wants to hear what you have to say. Your opinions are unimportant. Go iron my shirt!

Actually, most people do change their minds with age. That’s why all the talk of the youth vote is generally overrated. Not only are they unreliable as youth, their views more often than not change with age and experience.

Esthier on April 30, 2009 at 6:38 PM

We’ll see. Right now the trends show that acceptance tracks inversely with age, while overall acceptance levels increasing over the past 2 decades. It would seem to indicate that few enough young people are changing their minds to offset the generational change.

Maybe the trend terminates this year, but if it doesn’t then in 5 years there will be majorities in favor of civil unions or marriage in states with a majority of the national population.

Just like when Rudolf Hess saw P51s over Berlin and knew it was time to give it up, the Dems need to get a clue, when the Women join the fight against you, its time for the fork test cause..your done.

Speakup on April 30, 2009 at 6:30 PM

Just a bit of historical accuracy here. Rudolf Hess never saw P-51’s over Berlin during WWII as he was a prisoner of the British since 1940/41. He flew solo to Britain in an attempt to start talks between the British and the Germans and spent the rest of the war as a “guest” of His Majesty’s government before finding “better” accommodations at Spandau prison as a guest of the Allied Powers until committing suicide in the 1980’s. He was, I believe, the last Nazi held at Spandau. Hermann Goreing did once say that he would resign as head of the Luftwaffe if an Allied bomber ever showed up in the skies over Berlin. They did, he did not, and he was ridiculed (behind his back of course) by nearly everyone in Germany over the comment for the rest of the war.

Your point is however well taken.
However, with liberals you are arguing with Stupid and we all know how well that turns out.

Now as for Miss California; she is realizing what the vast majority of Americans think of a pretty, Proverbs-31 girl, who is not afraid to speak her faith and her beliefs: they adore her!

As for homosexuality being genetic: in short no.
There is no genetic disposition for a species to self destruct biologically.
It has been, is, and will always be, a choice.