Culture Crusaders, My body is not your battlefield.
(I posted this around the same time last year in the Women's Rights Forum at the old place, when we were seeing a lot of anti-abortion fuckery from the GOP House even then--and it's still on. So I wanted to repost this here, because I still think this is true, not just for me and my body, but for many female bodies.)

It's not a territory. You don't get to wage war over it. It's mine.

My body is the only thing I came into this world with. I was born with it, and I will live in it until I die. It's the one thing I can say is truly mine. My parents and my marriages and my on-line presence have left me with different names and handles, but if you're looking for me--the definitive location of me, myself, and I--you're looking for the person of one Vixen Strangely, residing in a particular body.

I have skin and hair and organs. They are unique to me. My piercings and my tattoos and my scars and all the other identifying marks are about experiences unique to me. You can see them, but you can't share the path I was on when I got them, because they are mine. My hair color is mine, however many times I may have chosen to alter it. My size is mine, and I embrace it, because this is the only body I have. I may chose to be more fit through a variety of efforts, or see what genetics and entropy give me. I may elect to correct for some aesthetic ideal through chemicals or surgery. But my body is mine. And so are its parts. My eyes. My ears. My tongue. My fingers, that type on a keyboard for the benefit of a handful of readers. My body, the house of my life and experiences. My stretch marks, my freckles. My fat. My genitals. My sex with those genitals--that is my business. Not your battlefield. Mine.

You can mind your own business, and I will not mind it for you. You eat what you want, drink what you want, mutually and consentually experience sex with who you want. It is your body, your life and your business to do so, and you may chose all those things. I respect your body. Your side of the bargain is respecting mine. Respect my business. You may capitalize or make hay out of what your choices are--but I will not have you capitalizing on mine. My body is not your battle field.

My uterus is mine. It is located in my body. Mine. You might already acknowledge that government has no place telling me what to feed my body with, what I should drink, and if your mind is broad enough, you may have no opinion about who I make love with using this one body I have, in the lifespan I'll enjoy. So I want you to understand, that if my uterus experiences a pregnancy--that pregnancy is mine. My pregnant uterus effecting my life. Not your life, or your uterus, or your pregnancy. It is mine.

That's my missed period. That is my financial situation. That's my age. That is my relationship with the donor of the sperm that joined with the egg my body produced. It will be my physical changes, that effect the one body I have. My addictions, my mental health, my physical health, my mobility, my ability to consider myself separately from the individual who impregnated me, the pregnancy within me, and the world I need to negotiate to keep food in my stomach and a roof over my head. You can't know all of these things. These things are mine. Not yours. That is why I should chose--not you, whether I can seek the best possible care for my body. I seek it out. I chose to. Because I want what is best for me. And you don't know me.

Carol

02-18-2012, 10:11 AM

And you make up things about what I will experience, think I am stupid, and demean and harass me and people like me all the time to protect your idea of "life" or "babies"--ignoring that I am alive. I was someone's baby. I have lived and experienced many things, good, bad, weird, and so on. The small, decidedly human, and undoubtedly living, fetus inside me would be....inside my uterus, which is mine. Effecting my body, which is mine. I know fetuses are developing babies. I am not stupid. It may have a beating heart. A sonogram of it may reveal the image of human body parts. Little fingers, little toes. A skull. A nose. Eyes. And I might even ponder what my pregnancy might lead to if I chose to carry it to term. A poet. An athlete. A scientist. I'm human, with human experiences just like yours, and I have held babies and smelled their talcum-fresh bodies and smiled at their developing awareness. I am not anti-baby.

I'm pro-life. My life, in the one body I have, that might develop gestational diabetes or heart problems, mood swings, that might have a complication from a pregnancy that ends the one life I have. You may consider that selfish--but I would say--who are you to ask me not to concern myself, with my self? I have to look out for my life and my obligations, which may be familial or economic, which may be towards my education, or towards my career. It's my choice about what I do with my body. Not yours.

And what of my pregnancy? I can't tell you about who he or she would be, because he or she wasn't, just like many XY and XX chromosomed zygotes aren't, which leave the body through natural means before viability. It isn't your battlefield. My pregnancy, in my body, isn't your choice. I am a female-bodied human life, and I want you to recognize me as a person. You may not agree with what I do with my body, but you must understand--it is mine.

And my health, the health of my body, the health of the children I chose to have, are my concern. So if you wish to consider yourself pro-life--tell me this:

Do you support my access, and that of my children, to water that is healthful to drink? Do I have a right to demand my government ensure that with the tax money they get from me?

Do you support my access, and that of my children, to food that is healthful to eat? Do I have a right to demand my government ensure that with the tax money they get from me?

Do you support my access, and that of my children, to air that is healthful to breathe? Do I and my children and their generations to follow, have a right to a clean, safe planet?

Do you support my right, and that of my children, to health care, so that we can enjoy the lives we have as relatively free from pain, illness, and calamity as we can manage, without suffering penury? Do you support my right to work--for a wage that enables me to care for the children I chose to have? Do you support the education of those children? Do you believe that if children truly are a precious resource, we should invest in them, keep them safe, give them the greatest access to do the most with the one life and the one body they have?

If you can say no to all that--then screw off, you are just a theocrat who wants to plant a flag in my uterus. And my body is not your battlefield.

It's mine.self centered, selfish, "no one matters but me", "I was a baby at one time"-but my baby doesn't deserve to live because I have better things to do"

The typical attitude of most liberal women.

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1. I posted a notice that they were coming after birth control last year as well... But never did I

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expect the men in this country to sit twenty or so in front of a committee discussing birth control not as a women's issue. These knuckle draggers stole the key's to the car and put it into reverse going 100 miles an hour... You can see where liberals come down on this issue. If it's about women and birth control then that is more important than whether it is constitutional or not. From all the hysteria and lies one would think that Republicans have decided to make all birth control illegal.

AmPat

02-18-2012, 10:40 AM

self centered, selfish, "no one matters but me", "I was a baby at one time"-but my baby doesn't deserve to live because I have better things to do"

The typical attitude of most liberal women.

You can see where liberals come down on this issue. If it's about women and birth control then that is more important than whether it is constitutional or not. From all the hysteria and lies one would think that Republicans have decided to make all birth control illegal.

...inside my uterus, which is mine. Effecting my body, which is mine. I know fetuses are developing babies. I am not stupid. It may have a beating heart. A sonogram of it may reveal the image of human body parts. Little fingers, little toes. A skull. A nose. Eyes.
It has a 50/50 chance of having a UTERUS also! Does your targeted for abortion fetus have the right to her uterus?

Odysseus

02-18-2012, 12:10 PM

If her body isn't a battlefield, it's a bloody shirt that she's waving.

If her body isn't a battlefield, it's a bloody shirt that she's waving.

I'll bet her body smells like one about a week after the battle ended and they haven't removed the bodies yet.

NJCardFan

02-18-2012, 01:57 PM

link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/11394422)

This is the most narcissistic, selfish "no one matters but me" expose that I've ever read.

106 times this person used me, myself, I, mine and other possessive pronouns and that was only in the first part of that screed. Wow. Taking lessons from Obama apparently.

linda22003

02-18-2012, 02:08 PM

self centered, selfish, "no one matters but me", "I was a baby at one time"-but my baby doesn't deserve to live because I have better things to do"

The typical attitude of most liberal women.

Gee, then I wonder why I know so many who have children. :cool:

Dan D. Doty

02-18-2012, 05:47 PM

Moonbats have this nasty habit of calling other people " SELFESS " all the time when they want your time, money, property and undivided attention.

Now Vixengrl scream her body belongs to her, okay I'll give her that, Vixongrl's body and life belong to her.

Later in her long winded rant it came down to free health care, the envirement, and a the right to work.

Farther down this rant went into the rest of us giving your kids ( the ones you choose to have) a good education, plenty of resources and to keep them safe.

Here's my answer lady.

Its your body, and you are responsible for it ( and the children you choose to have), not the rest of society and certianly not me.

You think the world owes you something? Guess what? The world don't owe you dick sweetheart!
If you want birth control, go out and get it ... no one is stopping you.

But, no, you want someone else to pay for it instead and if you screw that up you want the rest of us to pay for whatever you decide after that.

And while you are at it, keep your dirty , grease mitts off My Bill Of Rights.
You know, that thing you and your pals seem to ignor when gets in the way of your petty, bratty demands.

And one more thing Vixongrl, screw you too; America is a Constitional Republic, not bratocracy.

FlaGator

02-18-2012, 07:03 PM

Fine, then all the money that I make is mine. It does not belong to you or your ilk. I worked for it and I earned it and I will decide who will receive the benefits of my labor and who shall not. You can not take from me and give it to someone who you feel deserves it more. That is for me to decide not you. If you want to kill your babies then that is your call. However, it should be my call if any of my wages to go to an organization that supports or offers abortions and I say no. Your body... fine. Pay for the murder of your child with you own money. Don't look for me to subsidize a penny of it. Can't afford it on your own? Tough luck. You should have make sure the aspirin stayed firmly planted between you knees.

That is all...

Apache

02-18-2012, 07:47 PM

No, you ditz, your body is not our battlefield. You already surrendered it to the LeftR and they are USING IT.... Clear? Mkay, bye now :wink:

Oh, our bad. It was an easy mistake to make, what with all the mud, shell-holes, chemical smoke, torn-up shit, and track marks all over it. We'll try to be more careful next time.

Odysseus

02-19-2012, 11:36 AM

Oh, our bad. It was an easy mistake to make, what with all the mud, shell-holes, chemical smoke, torn-up shit, and track marks all over it. We'll try to be more careful next time.

ROFLOL!!!
:rotfl:
She has lived hard, hasn't she?

Tipsycatlover

02-19-2012, 04:14 PM

If we grant to this woman total domain over her body, why can't she pay for its maintenance.

If she has a right to birth control, it does not confer a right on anyone else to pay for it. If she wants a right to an abortion, how does this translate into forcing others to pay for her life choices?

Apache

02-19-2012, 04:22 PM

If we grant to this woman total domain over her body, why can't she pay for its maintenance.

If she has a right to birth control, it does not confer a right on anyone else to pay for it. If she wants a right to an abortion, how does this translate into forcing others to pay for her life choices?

Because actions, for the LeftR, have no consequences. Their motto is: If it feels good, DON'T YOU DARE JUDGE ME... AND CLEAN UP MY MESS!!!!!!

Odysseus

02-19-2012, 05:07 PM

If we grant to this woman total domain over her body, why can't she pay for its maintenance.

If she has a right to birth control, it does not confer a right on anyone else to pay for it. If she wants a right to an abortion, how does this translate into forcing others to pay for her life choices?
Good point, but one lost on libtards.

Because actions, for the LeftR, have no consequences. Their motto is: If it feels good, DON'T YOU DARE JUDGE ME... AND CLEAN UP MY MESS!!!!!!

Yes, her body isn't a battlefield so much as an amusement park, but she expects the rest of us to police up the fairgrounds after she's been ridden.

Dan D. Doty

02-19-2012, 05:46 PM

If we grant to this woman total domain over her body, why can't she pay for its maintenance.

If she has a right to birth control, it does not confer a right on anyone else to pay for it. If she wants a right to an abortion, how does this translate into forcing others to pay for her life choices?

People on the Left some how turn wants and feelings into rights ( which of course aren't covered by The Bill Of Rights).

The Left wants free everything, and they expect the people they don't like to pay for it ; political parasites that would feed until the host was dead ( then blame the host for running out of resources :rolleyes:)

From now on, everyone here should carry a copy of U.S. Constitution with them. When these assholes start going on about " their special rights " whip out your copy of the Constitution and ask them where it appears. And if they say something stupid like" it's implied ", ask them to point that out too.

Most of time they'll curse you out and call you every name in the book when they can't ( or won't) do it; which means you won because reason always trumps emotionalism every time and they are too stupid/crazy to learn that.

NJCardFan

02-20-2012, 12:06 AM

Yes, her body isn't a battlefield so much as an amusement park, but she expects the rest of us to police up the fairgrounds after she's been ridden.
http://images.wikia.com/worldwrestlingentertainment2177/images/9/91/Ron_Simmons.jpg

Dan D. Doty

02-20-2012, 12:36 AM

Yes, her body isn't a battlefield so much as an amusement park, but she expects the rest of us to police up the fairgrounds after she's been ridden.

:bravo::bravo::bravo::bravo::bravo:

ABC in Georgia

02-20-2012, 12:45 AM

Hey Vixengrl ...

"I treat my body like a temple. You treat yours like a tent."

Jimmy Buffett - Fruitcakes lyrics

~ ABC

AmPat

02-20-2012, 01:11 PM

http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/images/icons/icon1.png Culture Crusaders, My body is not your battlefield.Oh thank God! I gotta say, the scabs are a big deterrent.

ABC in Georgia

02-20-2012, 01:28 PM

Oh thank God! I gotta say, the scabs are a big deterrent.

Ewwwwwww!

What a thought! :vomit:

~ ABC

DumbAss Tanker

02-20-2012, 01:32 PM

Yes, her body isn't a battlefield so much as an amusement park, but she expects the rest of us to police up the fairgrounds after she's been ridden.

But not in a good way, more like the kind of amusement park that might be the setting for Grindhouse film.

I remember many years ago some anti-porn feminist named Andrea Dwopkin was on a panel show.
Andrea was almost 300 pounds, had sad looking black hair that looked like a handful of wires someone picked up in the dark, thick ugly old fashion plastic glasses and overalls. And believe, or not she had to shout out during the program " I don't want to be thought of as a sex object ". :confused::confused::confused:

I just looked at the Tv and said out loud " Lady, there is no danger of that ever happening."

No one other then Vixongrl gives a sh*t about her, or her body; much less having a battle over it :rolleyes: