Chase20460 wrote:All the customs were heavy, unless they have released another batch. Do they have the new Echo stamp on there or just standard Teebird?

Those sounds kinda of like the disc golf values ones. From what I have seen the teebirds have the same stamp as the star ones. The only way you can tell is by the little echo stamp they put on them. When they first came out they were in yellow/orange/green.

Discwrangler wrote:Right...just wondering why and what's the effect and is that effect the same for all discs?

the echo definately seems to be a lil softer/more grip.of the discs that i have tried they seem to be more stable than the regular star version.but ive only thrown the xcals and bosses.the wraiths looked like they were pretty straight same with the tee-birds.