Can anyone explain to a newbie why there is 22BTC till ICO levels? Why so much dumping? They just started, real faces, real company, lots of potential. Uphold promised to hold sell price at 1/650 - so virtually (..) no inflation with exchanges around. Yet, someone is ready to loose >30% after many months of waiting. The only explanation I can come up it, is dev dumps.

1. Because MarketCap is too high, no real paying customers yet.2. 210 million premined coins3. They aim too high for an ICO and supply.

In short, they want to liquidate their 210 million coins first before any real market moves in.

But didn't they say Uphold is only buying those cheap coins? It should be reflected on the price somehow.

i have a faith on this coin.but this dev dont know how to manage his coin,why we cant see a total supply and rich list.so everything is transparant,we 'investor' should know who's holding vox.how much uphold holding vox and how much another people 'investor' holding vox.

its whale group doing this or it's dev group doing this?IMO : it's dev group want to push the price down and take all vox distribution very very cheap.

What happened to true decentralization and a fair distribution.. Proof Of Work, people.Your project looks amazing, But im not gonna touch it with a stick. so sick of this, 100% is ours and nobody elses crap

Can anyone explain to a newbie why there is 22BTC till ICO levels? Why so much dumping? They just started, real faces, real company, lots of potential. Uphold promised to hold sell price at 1/650 - so virtually (..) no inflation with exchanges around. Yet, someone is ready to loose >30% after many months of waiting. The only explanation I can come up it, is dev dumps.

Ask yourself the question: Where is the value?Don't make the mistake to set VR = Voxelus!

Check out what Voxelus offers best is to try it out yourself and think about who will buy such?Then check what else already exists on the marked and what is coming in VR. Especially check what is free available already you will be surprised. Not just from a consumer sight but also and in this case especially from a developer side. Would you use voxelus? Buying yesterday assets from there?

Voxelus dreams about beeing the center of VR hench their extremly overjudged self declared value.The situation as I see it is that they are already outdated. Casual gamers and developers might still see something of values in their platform but I doubt any professional will use anything from there.I self can't see the value that they think to have by themself. Not even close.

But then I might not have the full picture what they are going to deliver. I judge from what I have seen so far and that is a big let down.Certainly not worth anything even close to a few 100million bucks or even up to a biliion!?!?.

VR will be big. Extremly big. But if voxelus will be any significant player in that is questionable.

Market is clearly manipulated. Sum of top wallets is few thousands higher then couple of days ago. I'm pulling mine out of the exchange till these games are over. Yes, I do believe the price will come back at some point.

Nevertheless, coin's management disappointed me quite a lot since coins are on the exchange. What kind of serious business would allow things like that? They can call it a bumpy start, but this start is lasting since what? September?

Market is clearly manipulated. Sum of top wallets is few thousands higher then couple of days ago.

Yesterday someone was putting a 34 btc wall multiple times in an out on the sell side. I observed this action for a time but couldnt get a clue what the one tryed to archive.Classical people put such sell walls up that theyself can buy more coins to a lower price. But since everyone in crypto is knowing this and the sell wall seller knows that everyone knows this... he might have attempted the oposite.Such actions are questionable if they still work at all. Even if say it was the original simple startegy (buy more coins to a lower price) an worked such an action can create a momentum the sell wall seller itself gets cought cold and the price decay continues more than what is healthy for him.So a risky action. I wondered if he had any insider information to eleminate such a risk of losing far more than he can gain.

Market is clearly manipulated. Sum of top wallets is few thousands higher then couple of days ago.

Yesterday someone was putting a 34 btc wall multiple times in an out on the sell side. I observed this action for a time but couldnt get a clue what the one tryed to archive.Classical people put such sell walls up that theyself can buy more coins to a lower price. But since everyone in crypto is knowing this and the sell wall seller knows that everyone knows this... he might have attempted the oposite.Such actions are questionable if they still work at all. Even if say it was the original simple startegy (buy more coins to a lower price) an worked such an action can create a momentum the sell wall seller itself gets cought cold and the price decay continues more than what is healthy for him.So a risky action. I wondered if he had any insider information to eleminate such a risk of losing far more than he can gain.

Those guys are trying to sell to themselves, thus increasing the btc volume on VOX. They are trying to maintain VOX to be either 1st or 2nd on the list for high volume mover for Bittrex to be noticed. Now the question is , to be noticed by whom?

Market is clearly manipulated. Sum of top wallets is few thousands higher then couple of days ago.

Yesterday someone was putting a 34 btc wall multiple times in an out on the sell side. I observed this action for a time but couldnt get a clue what the one tryed to archive.Classical people put such sell walls up that theyself can buy more coins to a lower price. But since everyone in crypto is knowing this and the sell wall seller knows that everyone knows this... he might have attempted the oposite.Such actions are questionable if they still work at all. Even if say it was the original simple startegy (buy more coins to a lower price) an worked such an action can create a momentum the sell wall seller itself gets cought cold and the price decay continues more than what is healthy for him.So a risky action. I wondered if he had any insider information to eleminate such a risk of losing far more than he can gain.

Those guys are trying to sell to themselves, thus increasing the btc volume on VOX. They are trying to maintain VOX to be either 1st or 2nd on the list for high volume mover for Bittrex to be noticed. Now the question is , to be noticed by whom?

Sell yourself on Polo. More than ever.Inadequate behavior says about the power of desire.

i have a faith on this coin.but this dev dont know how to manage his coin,why we cant see a total supply and rich list.so everything is transparant,we 'investor' should know who's holding vox.how much uphold holding vox and how much another people 'investor' holding vox.

its whale group doing this or it's dev group doing this?IMO : it's dev group want to push the price down and take all vox distribution very very cheap.

i'll do the math for you.

210 million coins x 35 cents each = 73.5 million $ marketcap.

The problem is they are starting too BIG for an altcoin. If they start at 3cents each, released all of the coins on ICO like Lisk, Factom, or Ethereum they have more room to grow but they didn't.

They didn't released 85% of the coins, hoping they will sell in the next 20 years. Only Real Business do that with paying customers.

We might even see 10k, or even 5k satoshi in the coming months for this coin sadly.

i have a faith on this coin.but this dev dont know how to manage his coin,why we cant see a total supply and rich list.so everything is transparant,we 'investor' should know who's holding vox.how much uphold holding vox and how much another people 'investor' holding vox.

its whale group doing this or it's dev group doing this?IMO : it's dev group want to push the price down and take all vox distribution very very cheap.

i'll do the math for you.

210 million coins x 35 cents each = 73.5 million $ marketcap.

The problem is they are starting too BIG for an altcoin. If they start at 3cents each, released all of the coins on ICO like Lisk, Factom, or Ethereum they have more room to grow but they didn't.

They didn't released 85% of the coins, hoping they will sell in the next 20 years. Only Real Business do that with paying customers.

We might even see 10k, or even 5k satoshi in the coming months for this coin sadly.

and the worst this is.VOX DEV cant explain it to us , so much doubt on it and he cant clear it all.it doesnt matter if they sell it at high price as long they can explain it why. ex : they need more hardware,profesional team and bla bla bla.

but what we get right now?we bought it 35 cent and what?even we dont know how much UPHOLD keep it and how much INVESTOR.its really hard to make something like EXPLORER?even scam coin have that.

Well ,it's quite evident that no proper planning was done for the market launch.The little bit of hype they did try to create with the fake poloniex addition news and the Uphold inc. setting the floor confusion and the radio silence after that has already had it's toll.

The Voxelus team is looking at it as a long term perspective which is ok for investors but a nightmare for day traders as there will be no constant hype or marketing. Take a look at Voxelus forum.There's hardly any activity there. The Voxelus platform is still in it's very early phase and will take a good amount of time to be beta ready.

The coins were clearly very overvalued at the 100k sat ico prices and by the look of the team and the product they have in hand and with the current altmarket bear outlook even 40k Sat price is quite overvalued.I'll be looking to catch some knives at 20k Sat and lower.

They have 500 million total supply and only 49,518,143 available coins with the rest being held for future crowdsales just like vox.

When storj market opened it also went down considerably from ico price but in due time the team proved their worth by working hard towards an impressive decentralized storage platform with a nice imbibing community around it.The current price reflects the same.

Point being it's just the beginning.The project has a long way to go and lot's to prove. The current economic structure is just too hard to sustain and it will have a big correction towards it's deserved value.

When the team starts delivering the goods it will recover to it's ico prices and much beyond but "ALL IN DUE TIME".

The coins were clearly very overvalued at the 100k sat ico prices and by the look of the team and the product they have in hand and with the current altmarket bear outlook even 40k Sat price is quite overvalued.I'll be looking to catch some knives at 20k Sat and lower.

That's sane.There is a product/platform so the coins are not worthless. It will have to find it's price like every coin.

The troublesome point is that Voxelus won't care much about the market price. With every coin they sold they got their money already.And right now the product doesnt justify the money they already made.