LE

Mi old ma (80s) was always terrified of intruders, used to cut mi up bad. (no joke intended).
I would have zero tolerance with any of these scum and I do beleive nither would the Police if they had a free hand.
john

LE

No doubt that if he still had an old Service Revolver & used it to defend himself, that the full weight of the law would have been used against him(with compensation to the deservedly deceased scumbags family).

LE

It's an awful state of affairs, but if Parliament & the Judiaicary aren't going to write / implement laws that properly punish the vermin who commit crimes & in addition deter would be criminals, this type of story will become more common. I'm sure the worm will turn, I know so many people who are seething about what is happening to society & our country as a whole, but it's a waiting game: will we vote in a government willing and able to tackle anti-social crime or will we turn to vigilantism?

You're right jonwilly - my brother is a policeman in Inner London & he does feel ham-strung by the law.

On a personal note, my father is approaching 70 & whilst he's still comparatively big and fit (& despite our jesting he has all his faculties intact) I worry that if he is confronted by scum he'll be in serious trouble as he'd stand up for himself.

LE

I understand the the biggest "trade' group in Parliament is the law profession.
Is the lack of effective laws to control these 'outcasts' just something that has come down through the ages or is there some form of understanding between theose who actually make our laws to protect their vested intrest.
The Bobby on duty can be carring a small arm and he is required to make an instant decision on if a person lives or dies (all shots are kill shots) and then must answer at the systems lesuire, for the action he took under extreme pressure.
I do not beleive that our armed police bear any relation to Hollywood's Dirty Harry, but it may be said that I am extremely suspisious of the legal profession and their standing.
john

War Hero

It's an awful state of affairs, but if Parliament & the Judiaicary aren't going to write / implement laws that properly punish the vermin who commit crimes & in addition deter would be criminals, this type of story will become more common.

The laws are there. What we are lacking is the commitment to use prisons properly and give harsh sentences for repeat offenders. Space in prisons is at a premium so the obivous sloution would be to build and staff more prisons. Very costly affair but I am sure the money could be found from somewhere (I have a few suggestions as to who would have their government funding cut/removed)

LE

It's an awful state of affairs, but if Parliament & the Judiaicary aren't going to write / implement laws that properly punish the vermin who commit crimes & in addition deter would be criminals, this type of story will become more common.

That's why I said "write / implement": Parliament makes the laws, the Judiciary is merely meant to interpret them. As I said in another thread, either we have the worst law drafters in the world (as it seems there are more loop-holes than substance to many of our laws) or our judges really are way out of touch with the feelings of the general public. Parliament can do anything "except turn a man into a woman" so it's time for our law makers to decide what laws they actually want (stipulating minimum sentances if they so wish) and as long as those laws are passed by Parliament then the Judiciary has to implement them. I'm aware of the balance of power argument, but Parliament is accountable: the appointed Judiciary isn't.

LE

Send them to Iraq for 3yrs hard labour! They need people to reconstruct the country so why not use that as a punishment!?

"Right Kevin, jimmy, and spod. You three are being assigned to the reconstruction of the waste water system in lower baghdad. Here are your waders, try not to fall over or breath to deeply and you should last the day!"

âBasically itâs a waiting game, We just wait here and see if we can annoy them enough to shoot at us, then we give them a good spanking.â

LE

It's an awful state of affairs, but if Parliament & the Judiaicary aren't going to write / implement laws that properly punish the vermin who commit crimes & in addition deter would be criminals, this type of story will become more common.

The laws are there. What we are lacking is the commitment to use prisons properly and give harsh sentences for repeat offenders. Space in prisons is at a premium so the obivous sloution would be to build and staff more prisons. Very costly affair but I am sure the money could be found from somewhere (I have a few suggestions as to who would have their government funding cut/removed)

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Laws like this are not in place, possibly due to successive governments testing dodgy political theories and pandering to a small section of the populace.
Society needs a wake up call to jerk those otherwise normal people out of this hypnotic trance they've permitted themselves to fall into.
Unfortunately I'm unsure what would be sufficient to turn the UK back into a country to be proud of - short of a decent coup d'etat and a period of martial law !

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