i could be mistaken, but the anger controls his transformation not the limit of his strength and such - but again i could be way off. aside from the tv show and the movies, i was never a hulk fan in the comics

quote:i could be mistaken, but the anger controls his transformation not the limit of his strength and such - but again i could be way off. aside from the tv show and the movies, i was never a hulk fan in the comics

One of his most used tag lines is "Madder Hulk gets, stronger Hulk gets" so I'm pretty sure the anger level has a correlation to his strength.

And I always looked at it as there was no real limit. But the maximum level of anger is kind of a nebulous concept so who knows.

I like how he has ZERO control whatsoever, including trying to kill everyone and everything around him early in the movie, but can take orders, and only goes after the bad guys at the end of the flick. The Avengers is awesome

quote:I like how he has ZERO control whatsoever, including trying to kill everyone and everything around him early in the movie, but can take orders, and only goes after the bad guys at the end of the flick. The Avengers is awesome

Eh, they did a bad job of communicating it, but it's quite normal for the character. Banner isn't ALWAYS in control, it depends on what's going on around him. But he CAN be in control. The movie did both.

And do you forget the ROD? The entire inverted shot of the reflection in the Rod was a visual clue to tell you that the rod was taking control of everyone in the room (while also a nod to LOTR), including Banner. Hulk just needs to be set off in the wrong way and Banner is out, Hulk has complete control.

Many have speculated it's the Mind Control Infinity Gem, which would make sense, but that's nerd info only clearly that's why they needed to communicate it better. But in terms of story the shift in Hulk control is canon.

quote:There have also been plenty of times in the strip when Hulk had total control of his rage and stayed the Hulk.

Also been times when Banner had total control as the Hulk without changing to Banner.

Also been plenty of times the Hulk was 100% insane and had no control and he would punch unicorns and kick puppy dogs.

Exactly. This isn't some gotcha moment, it's clearly what makes the Hulk the Hulk and Banner Banner, the interaction between the two is complex and dangerous.

I think what people fail to connect with Hulk and Banner is that the Hulk personality has nothing to do with Banner. They aren't the same being, they just use the same body (and yes they HAVE been at peace with each other, but that's rare). This is why Banner says "the other guy" at least three times in the Avengers. They are separate. Hulk is anger personified.