dempsey_k wrote:Dater just said we're going after Hemsky. Seems stupid, but I'm not too skeptical on this one. He's a right winger and more of a setup man, so would be perfect on a line with Lando and MacK.

I don't mind getting Stuart but for a 2016 2nd and 6th? Yikes. Why is this team handing out draft picks like candy? Sure the 6th and 5th rounders may not end up being much and if they do would be by luck but a 2nd rounder has great depth and has generated good talent for this team: stastny, ror.

dempsey_k wrote:Makes better sense to be paying for Iginla than Parenteau in years 2 & 3.

Stuart commanding a 2nd isn't a big surprise given how pricey defense is now. Show me a better trade or signing.

I'm willing to concede on Stuart (still find it questionable but whatever); however, how does it make sense to treat Parenteau as if he has a bad contract when he's only 1 year removed from a very successful offensive season, hasn't struggled ever since he broke through on the Isles, and is only 31 years old?

Briere is rubbish outside of the playoffs. I like him, but he's a shell of his former self. Not only did they trade for him, they also tossed in a pick as if the Habs are doing us a favor taking PAP off our hands. Please.

Iginla is a good signing, though we'll see whether there's any buyers remorse come the 3rd season. Iginla and a good return for Parenteau shouldn't have been mutually exclusive.

dempsey_k wrote:The Briere-Parenteau trade is crap, I said as much yesterday, but I'm just saying I'd move Parenteau out to bring Iginla in.

Sure, I think his days were numbered no matter what. I'm just disappointed we couldn't get defensive help in return and I don't think Iginla makes the trade any more logical. Iginla is more of a swap for Stastny than PAP; at least, unless we somehow unload Briere.

NHL33 wrote:Still makes no sense that we traded Parenteau for another forward and kicked in a draft pick. His contract is no where near an albatross.

The Avs have been shopping Parenteau for months. I think it's pretty clear he doesn't have much value around the league. He isn't a 3rd line player, he doesn't even think so himself, he just wasn't going to fit here for another year, and no one was going to straight take him as a cap dump because teams don't want to do that right now.

Brain of J wrote:The Avs have been shopping Parenteau for months. I think it's pretty clear he doesn't have much value around the league. He isn't a 3rd line player, he doesn't even think so himself, he just wasn't going to fit here for another year, and no one was going to straight take him as a cap dump because teams don't want to do that right now.

He still managed to be on pace for about 50 points despite being not in the usual role where he was successful prior to that. He's comfortably a top-9 forward with not a particularly high cap hit nor term. Granted the heavier UFA contracts are more defensive oriented, just seems weird that he was a cap dump -- it's absurd.

NHL33 wrote:Yeah, we all know his limitations but in the end he more or less earns his contract in offensive production...hence I don't see how he is a cap casualty.

I don't know he'll do in Montreal, but maybe Briere will do better for us. Therrien misused him.

The Avs certainly got the inferior player in the PAP deal. That trade was simply about getting $4M freed up for next offseason, nothing more. At least I hope that's what it was. I have a feeling Briere is going to stink though. Don't like this trade.

Don't mind the Stuart trade. Poor asset management perhaps - giving up a 2nd - but the Avs simply needed someone back there who knows how to play defense next season.

Also don't mind the Winchester signing. Good face-off guy, good PK guy on the 4th line. And one who knows there's a net at the far side of the rink. Cliche isn't going to cut it.

And of course the Iginla signing is good. I have a feeling the Avs are going to enjoy that contract for 2 years and hate it for 1 year, but is still good.

Stastny leaving will hurt, but the Avs never intended to sign him. That was all lip service. They fucked up though, by not trading him at last year's deadline. It's stupid to give away UFAs like that for nothing.

hek wrote:So does he switch to center in the defensive zone and then to wing in the offensive zone? Because I have to believe MacKinnon gets first shot at second line center, not O'Reilly. Hell, who knows how much longer O'Reilly will even be on the team.

O'Reilly will do it from Duchene's wing. MacKinnon will do a competent job as the other center due to his talents, but will be aided with some vets on his sides. So we should be OK.

Had decent numbers in Switzerland and AHL. Never saw his six games here. Potential gamer but one way contract seems a little overconfident in his numbers for a team with two talented right shots ahead of him.

For 625k a year, seems like a whatever deal. If he ends up being serviceable, then why the hell not. No idea how he plays but if he can provide 8-10 minutes of mistake free hockey he'll be better than anybody on our 4th line.

PredsFan77 wrote:Vloo: I forgot to include him in my top ten, but I would encourage him to sleep with any of my exes so that we could say our penises have been in the same space. I'd like that.

I saw he got 51 points in the AHL a few years ago and assumed he was a forward for some reason. So yeah, replace 4th line with 3rd pairing. If he can hold his own for 15 minutes a night then great. If not, it's not like he's a burden on the cap.

PredsFan77 wrote:Vloo: I forgot to include him in my top ten, but I would encourage him to sleep with any of my exes so that we could say our penises have been in the same space. I'd like that.