Extremism is Integral to Islam

To suggest that extremism is integral to Islam is a misrepresentation of the true message of Islam.

What is extremism? Does it include Jihad, genocide & terrorism? What if those are intrinsic sacraments of Islam, can they still be considered extreme? What did Allah command concerning them? What did Moe say and do about them?

2:216. Jihad(holy fighting in Allah’s Cause)is ordained for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. Allah knows but you do not know.

8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allah) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allah), then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.

9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

9:111Verily, Allah has purchased of the believers their lives and their properties; for the price that theirs shall be the Paradise. They fight in Allah’s Cause, so they kill (others) and are killed. It is a promise in truth which is binding on Him in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel) and the Qur’an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah? Then rejoice in the bargain which you have concluded. That is the supreme success .

Sahih Bukhari Volume 1, Book 8, Number 387:
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.“…

I heard the Apostle of Allah, (peace_be_upon_him) say: When you enter into the inah transaction, hold the tailsof oxen, are pleased with agriculture, and give up conducting jihad (struggle in the way of Allah). Allah will make disgrace prevail over you, and will not withdraw it until you return to your original religion.

Jihad is mandatory, not optional. Jihad is included in two imperatives. Moe was ordered to fight. Muslims will be cursed if they abandon it in favor of productive pursuits.

8:67. It is not for a Prophet that he should have prisoners of war (and free them with ransom) until he had made a great slaughter (among his enemies) in the land. You desire the good of this world (i.e. the money of ransom for freeing the captives), but Allah desires (for you) the Hereafter. And Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise

47:4. So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah’s Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives). Thereafter (is the time) either for generosity (i.e. free them without ransom), or ransom (according to what benefits Islam), until the war lays down its burden. Thus [you are ordered by Allah to continue in carrying out Jihad against the disbelievers till they embrace Islam ….

Abu Dawud Book 38, Number 4390:
Narrated Atiyyah al-Qurazi:
I was among the captives of Banu Qurayzah. They (the Companions) examined us, and those who had begun to grow hair (pubes) were killed, and those who had not were not killed. I was among those who had not grown hair.

Moe was commanded to make a great slaughter as a condition of entering Paradise. Muslims are commanded to kill and wound many. Moe committed genocide against Banu Qurayzah. Clearly, genocide is part of Islam’s standard, not extremism.

Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been sent with the shortest expressions bearing the widest meanings, and I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy), and while I was sleeping, the keys of the treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand.“…

Terrorism is not extremism, it is an intrinsic function of Islam; part of the standard.

Jihad, genocide & terrorism are integral to Islam as Moe revealed and practiced it. Since he set the standard, they are standard Islam, neither extreme nor radical.

You perceive it as extreme because it does not comport with your concept of morality. In the context of Islam, it is not extreme because it is the standard set by Allah and Moe. 3:151 clearly sanctifies terrorism, 8:12 commands it and 33:26 exemplifies it. Moe even bragged about it, “helped by awe” and “made victorious with terror”.

any person or religion that wants to kill and destroy anything or anybody for any reason not normal. Especially, when it is ordered by a “god”. It’s just not right. I know the people who are taught this and raised that way, don’t know anything else and it’s been going on for generations. “Death to freedom” is their motto, they hate freedom because it’s what they are taught. But those of us who “know better” can be a glimmer of light in their path so they can see there is hope for better life and a better world, that killing is not the answer.

That evil ideology has been passed down from one generation to the next for nearly 1400 years.

A few Muslims become disenchanted when they read the Qur’an & hadith and discover the reality of Islam. Many of them risk the death penalty by apostasizing. We need to induce mass apostasy on a global scale.

A few years ago, the apostasy rate in Africa was supposed to be about 6,000 per day. For apostates to survive and thrive, their numbers would need to be so great that the system could not cope with them.

My own suggestion is to persuade Mel Gibson to document Moe’s recitation & sunnah in a full length feature film and give it global distribution.

How many Muslims know the nitty gritty details of the demonic commands in the Koran, Moe’s pederasty or the murders he commissioned?

If you had been told that Moe was the greatest and best of men, whom you should emulate, how would you react to finding out that he was thighing his best friend’s three year old daughter and married her when she was six?

dajjal,
I have trouble following what you are saying. I think what I’m reading is you want Mel Gibson to do a movie to expose radical Islam and all it’s violence and hatred against anyone that doesn’t accept it and believe as they do. I think that would be a great idea. He may put his life in jeopardy by doing it though. Not sure he wants to do that.

There actually is a video out about just this called “Obsession – Radical Islam’s War Against the West.”http://www.obsessionthemovie.com
FoxNews interview about the movie:

Not exactly, jlyndsignzo5. Obsession brings the violent excess of Islam to the fore, making it visible to the American audience. It exposes riots & the Mullahs who incite them, not the doctrines behind the problem.

In contrast, What the West Needs to Know about Islam exposes some of the verses & sayings on which the violence is based. It is somewhat slow paced and shallow, but it is valuable none the less.

Fitna covers both bases in a limited time frame, juxtaposing Koran verses with their fruits.

My concept is different: a full length feature film dramatizing Moe’s revelations & depredations including pederasty, murder, rape, pillage & plunder. It would illustrate his ‘revelation’ of situational scripture as well.

The idea is to combine educating our domestic audience with revealing to Muslims the true nature of the founder of the institution that enslaves them. They are taught that Moe was the best and greatest of men, the perfect father, husband, friend, prophet and general.

The audience would see Moe writhing on the ground, covered by a sheet; groaning like a young camel. Then they would hear him reciting a new verse.

They would see Moe thighing Aisha when she was 3 and marrying her at 6. They would see him ordering the murders of his critics. They would see him leading his companions into battle and committing genocide.