Koalaesq:cptjeff: And meanwhile, the ultra orthodox in Israel are spitting on women who dare to show their ankles.

Seriously, how do any of these asses get women to have sex with them?

because the women are as brainwashed into their cultural status as the men. It's disgusting.

Not many people understand how true this is.

It is also seen in Western countries when women insist that women shouldn't work outside the home when they have children. Yet fail to see how this insures that they are dependant their husbands, fails to realise that women working is one of the main contributors to them having control over their life.

It is seen when women insist that women should not control their fertility.

It is seen when women insist that men should be the lead in the house rather than both playing equal parts and both making decisions.

NostroZ:Fart_Machine: I'm sure you've had some sensitivity training in not using the N-Word around black people or why it's wrong for you to talk about their culture. Haven't you?

Or are you so callous that you do not see what I am asking you to feel?

Holy Hyperbole Batman! You just compared criticizing Israel to attacking every Jewish person. I have no idea about what point you were trying to make otherwise. Have you taken your meds today?

So insults is all you have left... okay, callously lacking empathy it is for you Mr. Fart_Machine.

But make no mistake, only because you don't understand what it's like to be persecuted and why it's wrong for someone who is not to lob insults at someone who is, does not make it right. Just as much as it is for you to go to Harlem and scream out the N-Word.

As anyone can tell by this story, the UN is of no help... it's an inept democratic body with Middle East / African representatives where Israel is a member, will always vote to hate on the Jews... (Democracy cannot be two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat) & the UN is filled with a bunch of Jew haters - 26% of the resolutions they pass are passed against a country that is less than .1% of the globe.

All this goes on while Sudan has a genocide for a few decades.All this goes on while Haiti has thousands dying of Cholera.All this goes on while Syria is in civil war and Iraq is has been for a decade.

So please excuse me if I'm agitated when you throw insults at me, when you know nothing about persecution and only perpetrate it through commission or omission.

I'm not insulting you. I really think you need to work out some serious mental health issues associated with your persecution complex. I have all the empathy in the world for crazy people especially when they perceive attacks that aren't there and think everyone is out to get them.

Please note in my above comment when I mention women believe women should stay at home or not control their fertility i.e abortions or adoption or tubes tied etc. I do not mean the women who only do this for themselves but those that advocate that other women should not do...

I usually tend to find that those women who think in a manner counter productive to having a life of independence and ability to run their own lives have religion mixed up in it.

Fart_Machine:I'm not insulting you. I really think you need to work out some serious mental health issues associated with your persecution complex. I have all the empathy in the world for crazy people especially when they perceive attacks that aren't there and think everyone is out to get them.

Are you a doctor of psychology to make that assessment?Do you see the contradiction between the parts that I bolded?Please don't spit on my cupcake and then call it frosting, buddy.

NostroZ:Fart_Machine: I'm not insulting you. I really think you need to work out some serious mental health issues associated with your persecution complex. I have all the empathy in the world for crazy people especially when they perceive attacks that aren't there and think everyone is out to get them.

Are you a doctor of psychology to make that assessment?Do you see the contradiction between the parts that I bolded?Please don't spit on my cupcake and then call it frosting, buddy.

NostroZ:BeesNuts: This isn't a BSABS-exhonerate Hamas. It's that shiat stinks everywhere it's happening. And we need to call it out wherever we see it, even if (I might go so far as to say *especially if*) it happens among our allies.

That's cool Mr.BessNuts, I'll be sure to check up on your future posts when I'm sure you're you'll be criticizing Pakistan, Yemen, Columbia, and Iraq, since they are ALL our ALLIES.

Yet, somehow, I think that you have an "especially if they are" Jewish, then criticize them policy for that US ally.I'm sure if I were to look at your history, you don't actually criticize US allies. You pretend to care about people, morality, etc... but in truth you just want a high horse from which to scream you superiority in religion and politics... which the Jews happen to have both inferior to yours.

/A false equivalency is just that... I doubt you even criticize your own country men when they force women to undergo transvaginal ultra-sounds just to have access to control their body's reproduction.//Stop throwing stones at people you don't know, when you live in a glass house yourself buddy.

Jesus. WTF is wrong with you?

Yeah, Pakistan, Yemen, Columbia and Iraq also have cleaning up to do, but I considered that outside the scope of our conversation

No, I don't have an especially when they are jewish clause to criticisms. I have an "especially when shiat like that gets whitewashed" clause.

And I have a "don't talk to people who make assumption about what other people believe so that they can attack this fictional person with impunity clause."

NostroZ:Fart_Machine: NostroZ: Yet, somehow, I think that you have an "especially if they are" Jewish, then criticize them policy for that US ally.I'm sure if I were to look at your history, you don't actually criticize US allies. You pretend to care about people, morality, etc... but in truth you just want a high horse from which to scream you superiority in religion and politics... which the Jews happen to have both inferior to yours.

Well I guess we have the "if you criticize Israel you must be an anti-Semite" card in play.

You got it. If you harp on Israel for being immoral, when the same immorality that goes on in your back-yard and you say nothing. That's racist.

In this case, since the racism is directed at a group that has fought for a special term for hating them (since which other ethnic/religious group is believed to control the world, thus must be exterminated... and actually followed up on in practice as per WW2, post1947 Arab Jews being expelled/killed, Inquisition, Progroms, etc. etc.)

So yes. Much like if you're a white guy you cannot use the N-word.If you're not Jewish and/or are not critical of things evenly, but go out of your way to hate on Israel and Jews at large, you are an anti-Semite.

Maybe you'd like to start talking the same way about African Americans in America the way you do about Jews and Israel.See how that feels for ya on your hate train.

You would think the Jews and Pallys would get along. they are both hated by their neighbors and they both harbor religious fundamentalist that treat women poorly.

/ducks

You ovbiously beleive that all TSA agent's are evil peopl e, which makes you, i'm SOrry, an ANTI-semete. If you can't handle the truth, then go ahead and ignore me. I know I already won this arguement, n00b.

You would think the Jews and Pallys would get along. they are both hated by their neighbors and they both harbor religious fundamentalist that treat women poorly.

/ducks

You ovbiously beleive that all TSA agent's are evil peopl e, which makes you, i'm SOrry, an ANTI-semete. If you can't handle the truth, then go ahead and ignore me. I know I already won this arguement, n00b.

BeesNuts:You ovbiously beleive that all TSA agent's are evil peopl e, which makes you, i'm SOrry, an ANTI-semete. If you can't handle the truth, then go ahead and ignore me. I know I already won this arguement, n00b.

You would think the Jews and Pallys would get along. they are both hated by their neighbors and they both harbor religious fundamentalist that treat women poorly.

/ducks

You ovbiously beleive that all TSA agent's are evil peopl e, which makes you, i'm SOrry, an ANTI-semete. If you can't handle the truth, then go ahead and ignore me. I know I already won this arguement, n00b.

are u talking to me?

I'd say that hardly qualified as talking, with my tongue lodged as far into the meet of my cheek as it was. But yeah, I wanted to try "being completely batshiat insane" on for size.

You would think the Jews and Pallys would get along. they are both hated by their neighbors and they both harbor religious fundamentalist that treat women poorly.

/ducks

You ovbiously beleive that all TSA agent's are evil peopl e, which makes you, i'm SOrry, an ANTI-semete. If you can't handle the truth, then go ahead and ignore me. I know I already won this arguement, n00b.

are u talking to me?

I'd say that hardly qualified as talking, with my tongue lodged as far into the meet of my cheek as it was. But yeah, I wanted to try "being completely batshiat insane" on for size.

Funny how a Fark topic that is titled:UN Dammit Hamas Let your women run in Gaza marathon so help me I will turn around cancel this race.

Becomes an anti-Israel, anti-orthodox religion, ant-Semitic rant.

/For some reason, online, the worse comes out of people.//Then they pretend that they don't persecute or hate... they're just 'criticizing' how 'certain Jews have too much influence'.///Yet, if you replace "Fun fact, African American's are likely to be N-Haters. Discuss" We'd recoil in disgust of racism... Yet, somehow Jews are exempt from being hated on as Mr.BeesNuts racism without any uproar shows.

NostroZ:Funny how a Fark topic that is titled:UN Dammit Hamas Let your women run in Gaza marathon so help me I will turn around cancel this race.

Becomes an anti-Israel, anti-orthodox religion, ant-Semitic rant.

/For some reason, online, the worse comes out of people.//Then they pretend that they don't persecute or hate... they're just 'criticizing' how 'certain Jews have too much influence'.///Yet, if you replace "Fun fact, African American's are likely to be N-Haters. Discuss" We'd recoil in disgust of racism... Yet, somehow Jews are exempt from being hated on as Mr.BeesNuts racism without any uproar shows.

You don't understand what the word Semite means. Was my point...

Whatever, I don't need to convince you that I don't hate Jews. My record speaks for itself.

Way to destroy any shred of credibility that aging your account might have garnered you. I'm kind of impressed. You went from zero to coconuts in 0.45 posts.

TrollingForColumbine:You ovbiously beleive that all TSA agent's are evil peopl e, which makes you, i'm SOrry, an ANTI-semete. If you can't handle the truth, then go ahead and ignore me. I know I already won this arguement, n00b.

BeesNuts:In all seriousness, what's with all these completely insane, unrecognized personalities that have accounts over 5 years old suddenly and simultaneously appearing on fark after the inauguration?

I'm growing moderately concerned here.

Are you seriously hinting at a Jewish conspiracy now?Do you think I'm a lizard person behind this monitor?Perhaps a spider is more your styling?

You would think the Jews and Pallys would get along. they are both hated by their neighbors and they both harbor religious fundamentalist that treat women poorly.

/ducks

You ovbiously beleive that all TSA agent's are evil peopl e, which makes you, i'm SOrry, an ANTI-semete. If you can't handle the truth, then go ahead and ignore me. I know I already won this arguement, n00b.

are u talking to me?

I'd say that hardly qualified as talking, with my tongue lodged as far into the meet of my cheek as it was. But yeah, I wanted to try "being completely batshiat insane" on for size.

"meat", even.

/WHAT HAVE I BECOME!

I didn't make the TSA comment. why is everyone trying to assign other people comments to me. I merely comment on the comment. In a trolly kind of way I admit. but given the history of the thread I thought it appropriate.

BeesNuts:NostroZ: Funny how a Fark topic that is titled:UN Dammit Hamas Let your women run in Gaza marathon so help me I will turn around cancel this race.

Becomes an anti-Israel, anti-orthodox religion, ant-Semitic rant.

/For some reason, online, the worse comes out of people.//Then they pretend that they don't persecute or hate... they're just 'criticizing' how 'certain Jews have too much influence'.///Yet, if you replace "Fun fact, African American's are likely to be N-Haters. Discuss" We'd recoil in disgust of racism... Yet, somehow Jews are exempt from being hated on as Mr.BeesNuts racism without any uproar shows.

You don't understand what the word Semite means. Was my point...

Way to destroy any shred of credibility that aging your account might have garnered you. I'm kind of impressed. You went from zero to coconuts in 0.45 posts.

Right... this coming from the guy hinting at a conspiracy on Fark now. All because someone questions his disproportionate and unneeded desire to insert Jews into an article about women in Gaza running a marathon.

/Okay, King coconuts./Let me know if you come up with any more 'theories' on everything and anything Jewish.//I'm sure the Jews did everything

BeesNuts:In all seriousness, what's with all these completely insane, unrecognized personalities that have accounts over 5 years old suddenly and simultaneously appearing on fark after the inauguration?

No one cares on Fark - your prized possessions make great kindling, and your sacred cows will be turned into pink slime and force-fed to your children. You know how they tell journalists not to make the story about them, EVER? Don't make a Fark thread about you (unless it's one of those TF "TFer so-and-so is financing a pelican rescue organization. Please fund it" threads). EVER. It will never end well for you, and you may find yourself immortalized like a GI Joe up your ass.

Christians get it pretty good in some threads, the FSM knows Fark loves piling on the dumbass Muslims in other threads, Scientology even has an alternate spelling of mockery...

Ignore it and move on, secure in the knowledge you have that others don't. Take solace in the fact that Fark is not known for having an effect on geopolitics, so I think it's safe to assume no one's going to start a genocide based on a Fark thread. Let go of your anger.

No one cares on Fark - your prized possessions make great kindling, and your sacred cows will be turned into pink slime and force-fed to your children. You know how they tell journalists not to make the story about them, EVER? Don't make a Fark thread about you (unless it's one of those TF "TFer so-and-so is financing a pelican rescue organization. Please fund it" threads). EVER. It will never end well for you, and you may find yourself immortalized like a GI Joe up your ass.

Christians get it pretty good in some threads, the FSM knows Fark loves piling on the dumbass Muslims in other threads, Scientology even has an alternate spelling of mockery...

Ignore it and move on, secure in the knowledge you have that others don't. Take solace in the fact that Fark is not known for having an effect on geopolitics, so I think it's safe to assume no one's going to start a genocide based on a Fark thread. Let go of your anger.

But please enlighten us with your pretend knowledge of a utopian past and how we should get there.

The Ottomans opressedeverybody.But Jews and Christians lived throughout the empire, and only towards the end did it get really genocidy. There is no forgiving the Armenian genocide, though.

I don't like Hamas, but what you've said about them in this thread is pretty stupid too. They were democratically elected - though in typical thug fashion they've taken everything once they had an inch. You also seem to not understand that the only way you can get power in a situation like that is by being bloody. The ANC in South Africa was bloody too. Both Hamas and Fatah got their street cred by fighting the Israelis, who basically annexed the west bank and gaza but kept the people of those areas as stateless non-citizens (funny, kinda like how the Ottomans treated Jews and Christians). It turns out that when you treat people badly and oppress them, they tend to form violent groups headed by jerks. Maybe look up Robert Mugabe and Zimbabwe for another sterling example - and look up Botswana next door for a counterexample of what happens when one group doesn't try to oppress the other (Botswana had no Mugabe because it had no Ian Smith).

Hamas has shown themselves to be backwards, violent thugs. Everyone pretty much agrees. But they didn't come out of a vacuum. When people claim that the refugee issue is "just because the Arab states won't take them", it's equivalent to saying "ethnic cleansing is OK" - these people were born there, they lived there, it is their home. Yet this claim has come up in this thread!

As for your defense of the far-right Orthodox parties in Israel - at 8%, yeah, they're a fringe party and can't do much harm. If they were a majority party (like Hamas, ha ha), do you think it would take them long to start treating women badly or annex the west bank?

Thankfully, most Israelis have still proven themselves to be more humanitarian and reasonable. It helps that it is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious state with strong human rights laws. But gaza and the west bank are still a mess. Gaza more so, because Hamas is a bunch of thugs. Let's hope Israel never elects religious thugs into the majority!

adamatari:As for your defense of the far-right Orthodox parties in Israel - at 8%, yeah, they're a fringe party and can't do much harm. If they were a majority party (like Hamas, ha ha), do you think it would take them long to start treating women badly or annex the west bank?

Thankfully, most Israelis have still proven themselves to be more humanitarian and reasonable. It helps that it is a multi-ethnic, multi-religious state with strong human rights laws. But gaza and the west bank are still a mess. Gaza more so, because Hamas is a bunch of thugs. Let's hope Israel never elects religious thugs into the majority!

My point exactly.I'm not defending the way the ultra-right treats women, in any country...but to use false equivalency of Hamas = ultra religious Israeli, as occurred earlier (not by you) was pure derp.

/Point to any other Middle Eastern country with the characteristics bolded above.//People online love to hate on Israel / Jews... in far off topics like women running in marathons in Gaza being stopped by Hamas.///If American foreign policy was based on the way people talk online, we'd be isolated, without allies, on our moral high horse

NostroZ:Fart_Machine: NostroZ: Maybe you'd like to start talking the same way about African Americans in America the way you do about Jews and Israel. See how that feels for ya on your hate train.

Do you frequently equate human rights abuses in Africa with black people living in the United States? Maybe you should check the mirror before calling other people racist.

You've obviously missed the point. What I was and am fighting against is the creation of a false equivalency between Hamas and religious Jews in Israel. That sounds like a hateful comparison.

Since you obviously have no sensitivity to Jews living in Israel, but treat trolling one or the other's emotions as a sport... I suggest you replace that with African Americans living here in the United States. I'm sure you've had some sensitivity training in not using the N-Word around black people or why it's wrong for you to talk about their culture. Haven't you?

Or are you so callous that you do not see what I am asking you to feel?

TrollingForColumbine:I didn't make the TSA comment. why is everyone trying to assign other people comments to me. I merely comment on the comment. In a trolly kind of way I admit. but given the history of the thread I thought it appropriate.

We are kindred. You and I. I was making a joke about how people were unfairly piling on you and assigning opinions to you that were not your own, then attacking those positions from increasingly ungainly angles.

I think this is where I'm supposed to say "trolled hard.jpg", but I kind of hoped you'd wouldn't take something that full of spelling errors seriously. I can't telegraph any harder.

uber humper:BeesNuts: In all seriousness, what's with all these completely insane, unrecognized personalities that have accounts over 5 years old suddenly and simultaneously appearing on fark after the inauguration?