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I am moving this up from the depths of the "sin bin" that MAY interest the "general" folk... After all this is the best Surfboard design forum. Just saying’ here That, from the ancients to my day, there was no such thing as the “web”. As always, to be a successful “local” shaper, you needed to travel and patrol to have an edge. With me? Always observant and somewhat of a thief. An applicable recollection, is the first down rail I handled. Took the board over to Liddle, he made a few and we worked on it. And made a coupl’a more. Finished product performed quiet well. And I was fortunate enough to catch an epic swell at a secret spot, only know as “Bali Hai”. Frankly I find it quite funny that the same story could be told by a real “old-timer” about his Hot Curl I put forth a collection of “Vintage” Twin fin photos from 1948 to 1977. What a strange trip, hope you enjoy... One more thing How long have we been living in a truster world? About 37 years by my clock.

You want some more?
“Well here's some more”.... Frank Zappa
@gdaddy
I always used glass on fins.
Twins were wide based critters.
Here is what I know the "Star" system, which came late in the game really.
Also from the early longboard “plastic" fins,
I wasn’t sold as they just flexed too much.
My feelings are, gimmick Inc. riding on MR's success,

Funny, that no one picked up on the difference of fin set ups.
I'll explain as best I can,
Understand, that twins came back on as early as OMG ah, 69?
I was riding and midnight shaping.
Rode Bings at the time, my love?
The Maui foil, beautiful, best S deck ever…
I might add a name, a South bay legend, Dick Mobley.
Only fondled the twin that Rolf promoted.
Strangely similar to Corky’s “spacesticks”.
You should note that the fins in that period…
Straight and no cant!
So those first go twins went down.

I’ll try to further explain what I experience.
Wound up ride’n McCoy and raising a family.
I really loved the wingers with the CH touch.
I might add another name, a HS pal Skip Lefield.
Again, I get to fondle a “new” twin…
Honesty,
I was disappointed.
Other than the “fishy” outline, the fin set had no visible
Toe in or cant,
Remember, my perspective at that time.
I am blowing out of the water on the big moves.
And concentrating my surfing at Huntington.
I am seeing guys just killing’ it…
So…
Lance Collins and Stussy had some valid shit, ah the “new” twin.
At this time, I bought a house close to Ventura.

Bought a new Skil 100
Built a shaping and a glassing bay.
And buried myself in twins.
Such a great time!
No web, no McKee and no limits.

Myself?
I think the first thing was the “toe in”
I used the underground rule,
2 to 3 inches passed the nose.
Funny!
That generally works out to ¼” toe…
The next is cant…
OMG
What fun!
I never bled so much, ah, “kickin’ da fins, yeah?
The 1st relic twins I made all have a “characteristic” chin dent.
As at 9 degrees cant your knee’s will buckle.
LMAO…
Went to 7 degrees and just stayed low and tried to stay on the deck!
Of course the outline adjustment from Huntington to Zuma
Refined my twins.
Again,
Clyde was on it.
The “magic fish”
Was where I came out.
Basically, local shit and testing
Stuff a twin in a barrel.
And no that's not me, just a happy grom with a kick down test board!
Over.

Thick twin fins go really well too , but I think it was because at that time there were none , or very few thin boards , and the float from the thickness added to that skatey feeling that those early short fishes were known for . Thick wide twin fin fishes catch mushy waves easily .

If you are talking the late 60 twin,,,
Surplus LB blanks.
And....
No "down rail" yet.
You are most fortunate not to have to go through the "S" deck period.
But, I never subscribed to that shit anyway.
Or the later...
I think we followed the Lis Fish

Moving this is a place where
you can speak your mind.
Unlike oldtimes "Topside" (general forum)
"handmade surfboards, an art form, that there is
no wrong way"
Or, Folk just don't care for my shit!

Most board makers realise early that
"you are paid to be nice"
I subscribe to the Pat Curren method

Real reason for the twin tread
is just an early thought in the process of a new go at them (twins).

So the "thing" is flippin' around in my head right now.
Rocker, low
RP ? or R ???
Outline
Rocket fish ? or a Griffengrab I have worked on for 4 years
or some of my old twin template.
May sound like selfish self promoting shit.
But the fact is
that is the stuff that just randomly pops in.
Just a head ramble
Speak up

WOW!
No takers!
Just trying to get some simulating conversation going....
Maybe "cabin fever" or my affection for a certain brewed beverage!
But, how 'bout it?
How's this, all I seem to be seeing are channels, God bless Allan Bryne
But, 1st off I think we owe Greg Noll.
never mind the shit I did after seeing my first "slot bottom GN.
I was 15 in my Popz garage and drifted off to "finless" bottom contours.
HEY! Not claiming, never!
And yes that is a Velzy Jacobs and a hand done hacket fin!
But I am put back a what I am seeing where the "deep thinkers" are going with this some 52 years later.
Some photo evidence for your purusal...
Speak up!