It's a classic DM tune full stop. Not disagreeing, just adding to your point. That whole album has such a fantastic sense of groove. Never seen anybody else big up that album at all.

I've always stood up for that album. The only problem I have is with some of Vincent's lyrics, otherwise it's a great album full of ferocious grooves, dense textures and some of the best solos in death metal. e.g Dominate, Eyes To See.......

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Tue Dec 05, 2017 8:06 am

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Re: Morbid Angel Kingdoms Disdained....(offical thread)

I had a chance to listen to a few of the tracks that have popped up. Nothing really there that interests me. It's solid, probably about what I expected, and as usual the stock standard modern DM production which sucks all life out of any energy that is there. TBH the stylistic choices of the last studio album were far more fascinating.

'Altars Of Madness' overrated?!

I will give you the production is a bit archaic, but there wasn't really a template for that kind of material at the time (even at Morrisound), hence the more typical thrash production techniques of the time.

That EP with Laibach remixes was a warning for Illud but I do still like that. Abominations sounds shit now compared to when it was released but it is a demo. The Industrial thing began with Genitorturers innit.

That EP with Laibach remixes was a warning for Illud but I do still like that. Abominations sounds shit now compared to when it was released but it is a demo. The Industrial thing began with Genitorturers innit.

My missus accidentally discovered Laibach the other day, and liked it! She didn't like the Morbid Angel remixes quite the same though.

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Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:09 am

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Re: Morbid Angel Kingdoms Disdained....(offical thread)

Dr Yail Bloor wrote:

from what I've heard it was part of the deal for Vincent to rejoin, that he had tracks on the alum.

Yeh but Trey has a history of passing the buck to Vincent. He blamed him for the production on Domination and the lyrics. Why didn't he pick the producer or write the lyrics? Why didn't he insist that Bill Kennedy probably wasn't the right man for the job? Why didn't he speak up while it was being recorded? Why didn't he tell Vincent that some of his lyrics were arse cheeks and needed to be rewritten? etc etc.

Trey was the creative mind behind M.A, but he relied heavily on Vincent for other things. He was the face of the band and their PR guy. He was also a better negotiator from what I've heard.

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Re: Morbid Angel Kingdoms Disdained....(offical thread)

Stat_Rad wrote:

Dr Yail Bloor wrote:

from what I've heard it was part of the deal for Vincent to rejoin, that he had tracks on the alum.

Yeh but Trey has a history of passing the buck to Vincent. He blamed him for the production on Domination and the lyrics. Why didn't he pick the producer or write the lyrics? Why didn't he insist that Bill Kennedy probably wasn't the right man for the job? Why didn't he speak up while it was being recorded? Why didn't he tell Vincent that some of his lyrics were arse cheeks and needed to be rewritten? etc etc.

Trey was the creative mind behind M.A, but he relied heavily on Vincent for other things. He was the face of the band and their PR guy. He was also a better negotiator from what I've heard.

I always get the impression that Trey hates that side of things and just wants to play music, I know what you mean but if David I'd the more prominent character out of the two of them maybe he gets his way a bit more when he's involved?

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Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:42 pm

Stat_Rad

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Re: Morbid Angel Kingdoms Disdained....(offical thread)

That's my take on it too. Trey just wants to concentrate on the music and he let Vincent handle the press etc.

It's clear though that somewhere along the line Vincent began to 'dominate' (no pun), so to speak, and that caused tensions within the band in the mid 90's, resulting in his departure.

Reuniting with Vincent was a business decision I think, but it was an odd one that led to their most unappealing album that almost killed them.

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