There are many charming people in The Hobbit: The Desolation Of Smaug, but two of the most charming, Martin Freeman and Jimmy Nesbitt, dropped by the Empire Podcast to speak in spoiler-filled detail about the Middle-earth middle movie, and you can hear their thoughts on unsinkable barrels, New Zealand slang and meeting Ian Holm in the podcast below.

To hear non-spoiler chat from two of the other charismatic chaps in the Hobbit trilogy, Luke Evans and Richard Armitage, there is the regular Empire Podcast, but here listener discretion is advised. You should not listen to this podcast without having already seen The Hobbit: The Desolation Of Smaug, or you'll be more annoyed than a dragon with a hangover.

After that pair are done nattering, there are a good 50 minutes of Smaug discussion amongst the Empire Podcast team, where we only bring up the whole eagle thing the once.