Nostradamus & Trump: Predictions for the Future of the World.

Nostradamus Predictions for Modern Era

There are many shock claims about what Nostradamus predicts for our future. The most recent is that Donald Trump’s audacious election as president of the United States may herald the end of the world. Nostradamus ‘experts’ are claiming that the 16th century seer saw it all coming in Century III, Quatrain 81, where he wrote “The great shameless, audacious bawler. He will be elected governor of the army: The boldness of his contention. The bridge broken, the city faint from fear.”

Trump it is said fits the description of the “shameless, audacious bawler” because of his loud rhetoric, reckless accusations and aggressive stance. Many compare him to Benito Mussolini who was the leader of Italy’s National Fascist Party, ruling the country as Prime Minister from 1922 to 1943. Some believe that Trump is the reincarnation of Mussolini though this is not revealed in the prophecies of Nostradamus.

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Trump president he is the “governor of the army” leading the world’s leading military force. It is his finger that could press the red button that could launch WW3. In Century 1, 40, another Nostradamus prediction says: “The false trumpet concealing madness will cause Byzantium to change its laws.” We have the word ‘trumpet’ here of course. Byzantium was built as the capital of the Eastern Roman Empire but before this was an Ancient Greek colony. The argument says that this refers to the fact that Greece has become the entry point for immigrants and refugees , which is a central theme of Trumps’ candidacy. Trump says: ‘I will build a great wall — and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me –and I’ll build them very inexpensively.’

Nostradamus writes in Quatrain 50, “the Republic of the big city” will engage in costly military operations, ordered by the “trumpet”. Could this be referring to a huge costly war that Trump will initiate? I think it is likely that Trump will be engaged in War – possibly with Russia initially as an allies. I have said in my predictions that Syria will be partitioned – probably by American and Russian agreement with the additional help from Turkey. I don’t however believe it will lead to full scale nuclear war.

More about Donald Trump Predictions

Did the Bulgarian seer Baba Vanga foresee President Donald Trump? In this video Craig discusses the strange predictions of Baba Vanga and how they may have come true.

DID NOSTRADAMUS FORESEE ISIS?

One interesting theory is that ISIS is predicted in quadrant Q 8-70 where it says:

He will enter wicked, unpleasant, infamous,Tyrannizing over Mesopotamia:All friends made by the adulterous lady,Land dreadful and black of aspect.

Could this refer to ISIS? (Islamic State of Iraq and Syria) Mesopotamia is the old name for the region that includes Syria, Iraq and Turkey. The man so cruel (wicked) and infamous could refer to the leader of ISIS who was certainly infamous and unpleasant. What is most interesting is the reference the ‘adulterous lady’. Some have interpreted this as the Egyptian goddess Isis – the Goddess of health, marriage, and wisdom. She was married to her brother so her relationship to her husband could be considered adulterous. Also they claim the ‘Land dreadful and black of aspect.’ May be a reference to the flag of ISIS – which is black.

Some interesting ideas but whether this is stretching to point is open for debate in the comment section. It says ‘Land’ not ‘flag’ and talks of ‘Tyrannizing over Mesopotamia’ but what about Paris? Surely Nostradamus – a Frenchman – would have ‘seen’ the importance of ISIS in these world events and terrorist attacks at the heart of his homeland?

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In this book I reveal the secrets of the Indian Naadi Oracle that tells me that new spiritual knowledge will be revealed to me by the gods—which I initially interpreted as my mediumship—and from studying the Naadis, learning astrology, and knowledge given directly by meeting living rishis. The Naadi is like the Indian version of Nostradamus and may reveal things that confirm and expand upon what Nostradamus has foreseen.

Famous Nostradamus Predictions

Article by Craig Hamilton-Parker. How would St John the divine, Nostradamus or Mother Shipton, have interpreted visions of the two world wars, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Vietnam or Desert Storm? Is it possible to make predictions for the future of the world from so long ago? The scale and complexity of these modern events to someone living just a hundred years ago would have been incomprehensible.

A nuclear bomb would look like a world on fire, squadrons of helicopters would look like plagues of locusts and how would an ancient seer interpret the extermination camps at Belsen or the Killing Fields of Cambodia? It would look as if the world had come to an end. Similarly who is the ‘King of Terror’ that Nostradamus mentions? Could this in fact be a terrorist?

Below are some of the most famous predictions for the future of the world. I would be interested to know what readers think of these and whether these seers from the past could possibly have made truly accurate predictions for the future of the world?

NOSTRADAMUS AND WORLD WAR 2

During WW2 Churchill and Hitler both used quotes from the prophecies of Nostradamus in propaganda leaflets. And both interpreted the quadrants for their own political purposes. Today there are many new interpretations of his prophecies of Nostradamus that continue to hit the best seller lists. Clearly, prophecies can be interpreted in many different ways. In his own time Nostradamus made many very clear predictions that came true to the letter, however his later predictions appear to be incorrect. If you read some of the best sellers from ten years ago they warn that 1998 and 1999 are the years in which the world would be almost wiped out. They were wrong.

Nonetheless, many prophecies have come true and my own work as a medium and the hundreds of letters I receive from readers of my psychic columns suggest that it is possible to foresee the future. There’s too much evidence to prove that the future can be foretold. My understanding is that what we see are glimpses of a possible future. We see the future in an embryonic stage.

The future is like a landscape. What we see in prophetic dreams and clairvoyance are the roads and pathways ahead. We can travel across that landscape in anyway we please. We may choose a hard road, or an easy road to travel. If we see an obstacle we can travel over it or move around it. Destiny is like the landscape, our journey is our free will and our prophecies of the future are maps that guide us.

In 1984 my mediumistic teacher went into trance and I was able to ask his spirit guide about the future of the world and if there would be an apocalypse. The guide told me that the biggest threat to mankind would be the environment. He said that there would there would however be a number of serious conflicts in the Middle East following an economic world crisis and that we would have troubles from Iraq and Iran. We would be brought to the brink of nuclear conflict but the countries of the world would come together to save the situation. This was way before there was a likelihood of Western engagement in the Middle East and before the first war with Iraq

My own feeling is that there are still many bad things to happen to the world but this is just a prelude for a Golden Age to come. This will be a time when money and power is put in the hands of the good people and the world is guided by truth and compassion. Humankind will then at last embrace the human values of truth, peace, right conduct, non-violence and love. Terrorism, global warming and problems that we can only solve by working together may in face be the catalyst that brings world peace.

It is my belief that the things we focus our attention upon grow in strength. If we think negatively in our own life we tend to attract misfortune. Similarly if humanity’s vision of the future is one despair and gloom then we will attract misfortune to our planet. As individuals and as a species we have free will. The future is in our own hands.

Other predictions made about the future of the world:

1. Old Mother Shipton: Born in 1488 near Knaresborough, Yorkshire and a contemporary of Nostradamus, Mother Shipton made many predictions that came true in her lifetime including that London would be ravaged by fire in 1666. She also predicted airplanes and that ships would be built of metal. “Carriages without horses shall go,/ And accidents fill the world with woe. / Around the Earth thoughts shall fly. / In the twinkling of an eye.” She announced that the world “to an end shall come/ In eighteen hundred and eighty one.” Her prophesies hint that one day American and the United Kingdom will become one nation in a era when “eagles shall be preferred and there shall be peace over the world, and there shall be plenty”

2. : The Virgin Mary herself if claimed to have revealed the apocalyptic teachings to various children tending sheep at Cova da Iria near the village of Fatima, Portugal. A vision of the Virgin Mary was seen and thousands say they witnessed the sun spinning in the air. The fearsome prophesies for the millennium are now safely locked away in the vaults of the Vatican. Although part of the prophesy was released to the world in 1942 by Pope Pius XII. These told of the Second World War. It is believed that the remaining prophesies predict the imminent downfall of Catholicism.

3. Kenneth Mackenzie (also known as Coinneach Odhar Foisaiche): Born in the seventeenth century on Lewis in the Hebrides he predicted 150 years before the building of the Caledonian Canal that ships would sail behind Tomnahurich hill near Inverness. At the site of the battle of Culloden he predicted that in a hundred years hence the land would be stained by the “best blood in the Highlands” For modern times he predicted how the fall out from Chernobyl would rain on Scotland “Deer and other wild animals shall be exterminated by horrid black rain” He also predicts that there will be a great revolution in Scotland when the water of the Beauly had thrice ceased to run. It has dried up in 1826 and 1946. Weather forecasts predict many droughts before the year 2000.

4. Sathya Sai Baba: The most talked about holy man in India, Sathya Sai Baba is attracting followers from all over the world. He was recently visited by Fergie. It is claimed that Sai Baba performs miracles of healing, can raise the dead and is able to materialise objects from nothing. He predicted the fall of the Berlin wall. For the future he speaks of ecological disaster and rising sea levels but that a new spiritual understanding will avert a nuclear holocaust. Devotees say he has materialised a map of the world as it will be in the future. Sai Baba says that, despite the global ‘adjustments’ there is soon to be a Golden Age when people from all religions will rediscover their oneness in God.

5. Australian Aborigine Predictions: Prophecies handed down from generation to generation of the Australian aboriginal Elders warned of troubles ahead for the environment. Guboo Ted Thomas, Australian Aboriginal Tribal Elder says “You see, that’s really what’s going to happen to the earth. We’re going to have tidal waves. We’re going to have earthquakes. That’s coming because we don’t consider this land as our Mother. We’ve taken away the balance, and we’re not putting it back. I look at the bush, and those trees are alive. They’re not dead, they’re alive. And they want you to cuddle them.”

6. Edgar Cayce Predictions: Some of the most worrying environmental calamities have been forecast by the American prophet Edgar Cayce (1877-1945) who made many predictions that have come true. Whilst in a sleep like trance Cayce told his followers that there would be a shift of the earth’s polar axis. Our planet would tilt bringing with it great flooding and seismic activity. The prelude to this would begin from 1998 onward when there would be a considerable increase in volcanic activity and earthquakes. He also prophesied that the Sphinx had been built in 10,500 BC and that survivors of Atlantis had concealed beneath it a “Hall of Records” containing all the wisdom of their lost civilisation and the true history of the human race.

A new chamber was found in the Great Pyramid that has yet to be opened and we have recently witnesses many dreadful earthquakes in places such as Turkey.

7. Spiritualist Predictions: The most famous Spiritualist was Sir Arthur Conan Doyle who sat with many trance and physical mediums and listened to what they had to say about the future. He concluded that there will be a short period of chaos followed by some reconstruction; the total period of upheavals will be roughly three years following the great floods. The chief centres of disturbance will be the Eastern Mediterranean basin, where not less than five countries will entirely disappear. Also in the Atlantic there will be a rise of land which will be a cause of those waves which will bring about great disasters upon the Americans, the Irish and Western European shore, involving all of the low-lying British coasts.

8 . Fatima On May 13, 1917 a luminous apparition appeared to three peasant children and delivered a series of prophecies. The three children – Lucia, Jacinta and Francisco took their flock of sheep to a natural hollow in the ground known as the Cova da Iria to graze, just outside the town of Fatima in Portugal. While the sheep were grazing they began to play. Suddenly there was a flash of lightening. The children looked up, bewildered into the sky. A few metres away stood a Lady of dazzling light. Their eyes were unable to comprehend the lady’s brilliance and beauty and the air was filled with the smell of roses. She told them she was the Virgin Mary and gave them three secrets that were sealed in envelopes and not to be opened until the appropriate times.

In the first Mary foresaw that a “night illuminated by an unknown light” would precede a “worse war” in which “The good will be martyred” and “The Holy Father will have much to suffer.” On January 25, 1938, a remarkable display of aurora borealis was visible across Europe, the year before World War II began.

The second secret was about the future of Russia. Russia would “spread her errors throughout the world, promoting wars,” and that “Various nations will be annihilated.” (Many believe this is a correct prophecy of the spread of communism.) “I shall come to ask for the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart,” continues the revelation. “If people attend to My requests, Russia will be converted and the world will have peace.” Perhaps Pope John Paul II’s 1984 consecration of Russia was fulfilling the prophecy. Some say that it paved the way for the subsequent collapse of the Soviet Union as the “conversion” of Russia.

Lucia wrote down the third secret, sealed it, and gave it to Portugal’s Bishop of Leiria. Her instructions were that it was not to be read until 1960. The Bishop gave the envelope to the Vatican. POPE JOHN XXIII reportedly opened it in 1960 but he refused to divulge its contents, saying, “This prophecy does not relate to my time.” Pope John Paul II is said to have also read it, and refuses to reveal it on the grounds that its true spiritual message has been obscured by sensationalism.

In astronomical terms the Millennium signifies the central point between of the gradual change from the ages of Pisces to Aquarius. The Piscean age heralded the Christian epoch and the Aquarian age is the epoch of humanity and science that began in the Industrial Revolution. Some astrologers say that the year 2000 marks the point at which Pisces and Aquarius have equality. In India they talk about the Yugas and although their dates differ from Western astrology they too believe that we stand at the threshold of a new era. A Golden Age but preceded by many calamities.

Recent years have seen astonishing advances in science with the splitting of the atom, the unraveling the DNA code and man walking on the moon. There have been unprecedented advances. However, I feel that, although science is here to stay the next millennium will not be more of the same. I believe we will go to Mars and the advances in science, particularly genetics, will bring great benefits and dangers. The next evolutionary step will be in human values and spirituality. In the Aquarian Age people will be encouraged to have direct experience of spirituality rather than through a pious intermediary or dogma.

I believe that we will see the gradual demise of traditional Christianity but this will be replaced by something that comes much closer to the original teachings of Jesus. I predict that in the coming years we will begin to recognise that there is only one country and that country is the world. Also people will begin to see the similarities and not the differences between our religions. We will come to understand that there is only one God- the God of love- that manifests in every religion according to each cultural tradition.

What do you think? Are we at the threshold of a bright new era? Are the wars and financial and human calamities we see now part of a bigger and brighter picture or are we doomed? Please post your ideas below.

You might find the predictions of Alois Irlmaier interesting – he had a strong record of accuracy and had some insights on WW3, e.g.:

(Interesting that the short-lived peace declaration between the US and Syria this summer lasted only a few weeks, and that a senior pro-Russian commander was killed in Ukraine a couple of weeks ago).

“Everything calls peace, Schalom! Then it will occur – a new Middle East war suddenly flames up, big naval forces are facing hostilely in the Mediterranean – the situation is strained. But the actual spark is set on fire in the Balkan: I see a “large one” falling, a bloody dagger lies beside him – then impact is on impact. …Two men kill a third high-ranked. They were paid by other people. …The third murder occurred. Then the war starts. …”

Also, on the subject of the Third Secret of Fatima, Fr. Malachi Martin saw the Third Secret during his time as a papal adviser during Vatican II. He said that Ukraine and Russia are integral to the unfolding of the Third Secret and that, during WW3, “salvation will come from the East”.

Pope John Paul II had this to say about the The Third Secret during a visit to Fulda in 1980:-

My father-in-law is a very gifted psychic and he said that London would flood, that people in the south would move northwards and that the earth will be covered in a form of bubble for protection – from what I not sure: maybe the sun, the ozone depletion… who knows? He has never been wrong.

I would like to suggest to everyone who is afraid that the future is not set in stone. Psychics and mediums see possible futures, the way the energy may be moving in any moment. What I have been shown many times is that our thoughts create our future and together we can create a future of beauty and peace if we will send love into the world and see good for all people, beings and nature. Love is a powerful energy that can change any situation into peace. Send love and make the future good and peaceful for all.

Yes agreed Catherine – up to a point – but in my opinion the future of us as individuals and collectively is determined by karma that is also shaping events. By knowing the past karma we can know the future events. To change the future and take it in a good direction we have to use our free will to create good karma that will reduce the negative effects of bad karma. Doing things with love and compassion will indeed bring good results for both the doer and the receiver of the service given.

With respect to Nostradamus’ possible prediction of ISIS you mention at the top of this page, via Q 8-70, I believe it is possibly correct, as ISIS indeed rose from the area near the Euphrates. But I think you may have the wrong adulteress – this could be referring to Mary Magdalene, and her “friends” are Christians. Mary Magdalene was revered as a key figure and leader of Christianity in Nostradamus’ time in France, especially by the Templar Knights. In this light, the passage might refer to ISIS, as they bomb and kill Christians in masses (horrifying black mounds of dead burnt bodies, possibly).

Keep feeling that the earth is so over stressed by human population and their will be a outbreak of a super killing plague that will not be slowed down for over 2 years something to do with water and night time sky.

I mentioned a new cosmic discovery in my 2016 predictions and maybe what I was ‘seeing’ was the new planet that astronomers are talking about now. In the Vedas it talks about a time when there will be two suns in the sky. This is the time of the great spiritual liberation of mankind. If the new planet has an elliptical orbit that runs close to the sun in 10,000 years then there is a possibility that it could appear in the sky with a brightness to match the Sun? It’s slow orbit may also correspond to the changes of the Yugas also spoken about in Vedic Astrology. I am no astronomer and do not know if this is possible but it is an interesting thought. And of course we have a future – we are all God so nothing can stop the march of consciousness to its perfection through us.

About three years ago I experienced an insight into how things were evolving on multiple levels, the almost inevitable direction they were taking and their outcome. It was so real that these events seemed already to be happening. I knew I had to make preparations and tell my closest family members and friends. Although for five decades at least I have known I was at least highly intuitive; ever since I was called into full time ministry, what I can know on a spiritual level about people, events, institutions, motives and this can include some glimpses of detailed future happenings as well. I had prayed for more insight, but sometimes now wish I hadn’t, although I shouldn’t say that, because I also know God gives us certain ablities in order to be of some us to others, but it’s been a hard burden, knowing what I do.

What I saw years ago and what is coming to pass is that this country is going to go through a major corrective brought on by some significant loss. A wake up. For a while now many of us in America have held the illusion that what we wanted to be the truth mattered as far as the reality is concerned: that by claiming our view of the world was the truth, it had as much right to be truth as anyone else’s view of…

What we need to change is not our heart, but our addiction to the mind. The so-called Apocalypse is nothing more than a metaphor describing the end of our linear mind’s influence on the world. Our multidimensional heart is ready to take over, and we need to listen more intently to it.

Spirituality is about communication with our Source through our inner spirit via our heart. The mind was only intended to be a subservient tool to the heart, but it is when the mind is allowed to take charge that our wonderful world is moved closer to the brink of collapse. Our mind, the five senses and time and space try to tell us that we are all separate, and our behavior has been accordingly. National borders, monetary system, conflicts, wars, violence, mobbing, rape, murder, etc. Our dear heart tells us that we are in fact One on the spiritual plane. We know this through our intuition. It is when all the peoples of the world finally wake up to the fact that we are all One, that we shall at last live in a world of love, peace and harmony.

Nostradamus mentions 92 Years of peace when the third world war starts. Thus we end up with the Year 2037. A comet mentioned to be seven stadia long ( naked eye) will destroy one third of the world’s land and it says all the green grass will be burnt up in the Book of Revelations in Jan 2037. It is also mentioned in this that the comet will sink great countries and ancient civilizations. Further Europe will be affected of famine caused by the comet. The third world war will finally see hostilities in June 2040 when an asteroid will fall on water destroying one third of the fishes and ships. The Mahdi of Greater Arabia ( mentioned by Nostradamus) will unleash the war in 2041 with nuclear missiles and the war will last 23 Years. Moreover the anti-alliance will see 200 million soldiers ( mentioned in the BOR) will kill 3 billion people one third of the humanity. Nostradamus mentions that the pond nation (Britain) will be submerged. Kalki the last reincarnation of Vishnu in Hinduism is expected to kill all the wicked people.

Yes. Mankind is already passing through a changeover period of 1200 years commencing the 17th century – from the earlier dark period of ignorence of spiritual truths and materiality to that of unheard of spiritual enlightenment and understanding of scriptures of all major faiths. This view is based on my understanding of divine revelations manifested in 17th century India [1657-94 AD] through one known by his title as Mahamati Prananath [1618-94]. As he attained highest state of consciousness there flowed out through him the divine verses revealing a divine plan of God. Those verses were compiled in 14 books called collectively as Taratam Vani {TV}. The TV contains a total of 18758 divine verses in several vernaculars of the then India [not in Sanskrit, the ancient Sanskrit language of Hindu scriptures]. This happened off and on from 1657-94 AD and mankind was thus given a glimpse of God’s plan. If interested you may please read my thesis “Seventeenth Century Revelations” posted against ‘Nijanand Research’
The TV says the same one God had arranged to reveal the spiritual truths from time to time in various languages and in countries but mankind could grasp their intents [those were esoteric and incomplete in a way, particularly in respect of God’s highest level of reality], hence the arguements and even conflicts [that we see today]. So God had to reveal some more augmenting truths via the TV that clarifies the hidden intents behind quite a few Hindu as well as Testaments and Quran. The verses used to be transcripted by disciples of Mahamati Prananath who always kept him surroundd as no one knew when the verses would manifest. Those books of verses were preserved well for three centuries and happened to get published one by one only in the decade of 1980’s. I with my limited knowledge of Bible feel that its few enigmatic statements [like Kingdom of God and need to be born twice to enter it, end times, etc] can be better understood in the light of TV when it is collated with Hindu scriptures. That is what I have done in my two theses, one im Hindi and other referred above in English.
K. C. Vyas

As I grow older and would like to consider wiser, my thoughts are with the history of this world that we occupy. History shows us that development and advance is inevitable, in a material and social aspects. This is now travelling at such a rate that it will come crashing down around us. There have been great atrocities throughout history and it has been a cleansing for future development, I believe that we have now reached that time. Whether it be environmental disaster or plain human greed or even just a natural evolution of this planet. It is not too far away.

I have feared and tried to suppress in sights in to the future from an early age. Yes begged not to see, but while some times nothing to fear is seen I wake still in fright.
I believe world war three is on us now, a war of belief not race. Much blood, much death and in the end a better world.

I predict a lots of attack on Hinduism despite it being a gentle religion unlike other ferocious religions. What sort of future you see for the growth of Hinduism in the 22 century and beyond? Hindus are being persecuted by Hindus in their own land.

I predict that out of place artifacts (those that are not proven hoaxes) will be found to show that the ancients were more advanced than ourselves. There will be a discovery regarding our star, being older than previously thought. There will be a discovery of a homo-sapien that is millions of years old, around him will found artifacts not yet invented, leading some to believe that he is a time traveler, he will have thought to have died of a gunshot wound, as his skull will have a hole the size of a common ammunition type, complete with a exit wound that shattered part of his skull.

I think that during 2013 there will be a war with Syria and Iran in which Israel and the US will be involved. It will be short but very destructive for Iran. Israel will bomb south of Lebanon (Hezbollah) and Gaza strip because they are going to be with Syria and Iran. In Egypt a military coup will put Morsi out of power….

I keep on dreaming about predictions of tidal waves and hurricanes. I dreamed of a great tidal wave hitting Indonesia and it’s neighboring countries before the Tsunami happened. On one occasion I dreamed of a hurricain hitting our home and it happened soon afterwards. Of all the houses that surrounded our house, only our house was affected. It tore off the wall and wrecked the kitchen. It bothers me to think that a simple dream can predict the future.

True prophecy is energy. Like a snowflake needs substance to “materialise”, the beholder turns prophetic energy into something substantial.

The apocalypse is a result on an energy pattern. If it is a globalised world with all it’s effects, or had been any other of lots of “world systems”, it proves that mankind goes toward self-destruction and fulfills the energy pattern that causes the apocalypse.

Yes thoughts are definately things and wherever thought goes energy follows. Collective thought could drive the future of the world. And the most poweful thought that drives the most energy is love. And this is why I feel that we need to change our hearts to combat the darkness of the material age.

New Spiritual Understanding! I think this is definitely on the rise. I am an avid learner with an interest and fascination with these things. Just to know that there is something bigger, brighter and beautiful out there is important to me. The predictions that are foretold are not more than what we can see through common sense, but our heads are so lost on mundane issues that we miss all the signs. I do believe we can surpass this through human dignity/race/spiritual unity. I believe that we can survive and there will arise the people to stop it. Enough is enough and like Nostradamus said, there is a new spiritual awareness and unity coming. When everyone begins to think the same it will happen. As I look around the world and see the devastation that is occurring, its like the hand of the Lord is coming in and cleaning up the place, so many incidents, deaths and human failures have occurred in those countries. The signs are everywhere. So enjoy your thoughts, ideas, predictions, knowledge and understanding. From a Young Avid Learner!

Every age feels like we are on the edge of the apocalypse. I think things will not change to a Golden Age till we change people’s hearts – starting with our own. It does seem that there is a greater stench of corruption and greed in the air more than ever. We see it in sport bribery, corrupt democracy, wild pay in local government, educational degree back-hands, the insatiable greed of big business, celebrity tax avoidance and even in the actions of some spiritual leaders. Self first. Getting and forgetting rather than giving and forgiving. The Darkness Before the Dawn perhaps.