UKIP's bid to investigate scrapping district and borough councils in Hampshire defeated

Now UKIP have turned their attention to abolishing Hampshire's councils.

The eurosceptic party's newly elected Fareham county councillor Christopher Wood put forward a motion today calling for an investigation into whether scrapping the county's 11 borough and district councils - including New Forest, Test Valley, Eastleigh, Winchester, Fareham and Gosport councils - could be the answer to the county's money woes.

Speaking at a full county council meeting, he argued having one council would be less confusing for the public and save millions by unifying the councils under one roof.

A case in point, Cllr Wood said was neighbouring Wiltshire which in 2009 dispensed of its small councils to become one unitary council.

The county saved a total of £68million in just four years, he said, absorbing the £18million transitional costs in just two and a half years.

He said: "I think we can make Hampshire leaner, meaner and more efficient. I also believe having just one service provider will benefit our residents.

"All too often residents just don't know which council provides which service and trying to find out isn't always easy.”

But councillors from across the political divide rallied to defeat the motion.

Cllr Roy Perry, leader of the Tory led county council, dismissed UKIP's bid for the inquiry as a waste of officers' time and public money - especially when money was so tight.

He called unitary authorities undemocratic, comparing it to the government of North Korea.

He said: "They (UKIP) want to abolish the ability of local councils to deal with their own affairs."

Comments

"All too often residents just don’t know which council provides which service and trying to find out isn’t always easy."

A clue is on your council tax bill...

"All too often residents just don’t know which council provides which service and trying to find out isn’t always easy."
A clue is on your council tax bill...sotonboy84

"All too often residents just don’t know which council provides which service and trying to find out isn’t always easy."

A clue is on your council tax bill...

Score: 4

rickey
4:09pm Thu 17 Jul 14

sotonboy84 wrote…

"All too often residents just don’t know which council provides which service and trying to find out isn’t always easy."

A clue is on your council tax bill...

He means that certain things are the responsibility of the local council and some are the responsibility if the county council. Your council tax bill will not give you that information.

[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote:
"All too often residents just don’t know which council provides which service and trying to find out isn’t always easy."
A clue is on your council tax bill...[/p][/quote]He means that certain things are the responsibility of the local council and some are the responsibility if the county council. Your council tax bill will not give you that information.rickey

sotonboy84 wrote…

"All too often residents just don’t know which council provides which service and trying to find out isn’t always easy."

A clue is on your council tax bill...

He means that certain things are the responsibility of the local council and some are the responsibility if the county council. Your council tax bill will not give you that information.

Score: 6

Linesman
5:31pm Thu 17 Jul 14

rickey wrote…

sotonboy84 wrote…

"All too often residents just don’t know which council provides which service and trying to find out isn’t always easy."

A clue is on your council tax bill...

He means that certain things are the responsibility of the local council and some are the responsibility if the county council. Your council tax bill will not give you that information.

You can always contact your local councillor and ask them.

[quote][p][bold]rickey[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]sotonboy84[/bold] wrote:
"All too often residents just don’t know which council provides which service and trying to find out isn’t always easy."
A clue is on your council tax bill...[/p][/quote]He means that certain things are the responsibility of the local council and some are the responsibility if the county council. Your council tax bill will not give you that information.[/p][/quote]You can always contact your local councillor and ask them.Linesman

rickey wrote…

sotonboy84 wrote…

"All too often residents just don’t know which council provides which service and trying to find out isn’t always easy."

A clue is on your council tax bill...

He means that certain things are the responsibility of the local council and some are the responsibility if the county council. Your council tax bill will not give you that information.

You can always contact your local councillor and ask them.

Score: -3

Mary80
5:33pm Thu 17 Jul 14

F**k right off UKIP

F**k right off UKIPMary80

F**k right off UKIP

Score: -6

Paramjit Bahia
7:44am Fri 18 Jul 14

Apart from cashing on old Labour's anti EU policy, which was ditched by NuLabour, virtually everything else UKIP is offering should be a matter of concern.

This latest suggestion of UKIP confirms that the pro super rich (same tax rate for everybody will massively decrease the tax bill of billionaires and increase percentage tax of working and middle class people) anti National Health Service (Charging for seeing the doctor) is also against local democracy.

It is difficult to take whatever UKIP says seriously, because their policies keep on changing faster than even the British weather. As now Nigel Farage when cornered regarding NHS charging has started to say that people should wait till UKIP publish its manifesto for next election.........., Which begs the question, how can a party be trusted whose leader is not willing to explain where it exactly stands on important issues like NHS and income tax?

Apart from cashing on old Labour's anti EU policy, which was ditched by NuLabour, virtually everything else UKIP is offering should be a matter of concern.
This latest suggestion of UKIP confirms that the pro super rich (same tax rate for everybody will massively decrease the tax bill of billionaires and increase percentage tax of working and middle class people) anti National Health Service (Charging for seeing the doctor) is also against local democracy.
It is difficult to take whatever UKIP says seriously, because their policies keep on changing faster than even the British weather. As now Nigel Farage when cornered regarding NHS charging has started to say that people should wait till UKIP publish its manifesto for next election.........., Which begs the question, how can a party be trusted whose leader is not willing to explain where it exactly stands on important issues like NHS and income tax?Paramjit Bahia

Apart from cashing on old Labour's anti EU policy, which was ditched by NuLabour, virtually everything else UKIP is offering should be a matter of concern.

This latest suggestion of UKIP confirms that the pro super rich (same tax rate for everybody will massively decrease the tax bill of billionaires and increase percentage tax of working and middle class people) anti National Health Service (Charging for seeing the doctor) is also against local democracy.

It is difficult to take whatever UKIP says seriously, because their policies keep on changing faster than even the British weather. As now Nigel Farage when cornered regarding NHS charging has started to say that people should wait till UKIP publish its manifesto for next election.........., Which begs the question, how can a party be trusted whose leader is not willing to explain where it exactly stands on important issues like NHS and income tax?

Score: 0

Dai Rear
9:17am Fri 18 Jul 14

Mary80 wrote…

F**k right off UKIP

Yes that's right Mary. You love paying for all the clerks on 70-100 K annually in all the Boroughs and Districts, don't you? What, you don't pay? Quelle surprise!
One Council for all Hampshire is fine, and as for Alderman Foodbotham going on about North Korea-oh spare me.
In N. Korea , Alderman, the State takes 100% of GDP and people eat grass. In the UK for each extra percentage point of GDP consumed by the State we become more enslaved by the State. So, Alderman, you couldn't be more wrong.

[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote:
F**k right off UKIP[/p][/quote]Yes that's right Mary. You love paying for all the clerks on 70-100 K annually in all the Boroughs and Districts, don't you? What, you don't pay? Quelle surprise!
One Council for all Hampshire is fine, and as for Alderman Foodbotham going on about North Korea-oh spare me.
In N. Korea , Alderman, the State takes 100% of GDP and people eat grass. In the UK for each extra percentage point of GDP consumed by the State we become more enslaved by the State. So, Alderman, you couldn't be more wrong.Dai Rear

Mary80 wrote…

F**k right off UKIP

Yes that's right Mary. You love paying for all the clerks on 70-100 K annually in all the Boroughs and Districts, don't you? What, you don't pay? Quelle surprise!
One Council for all Hampshire is fine, and as for Alderman Foodbotham going on about North Korea-oh spare me.
In N. Korea , Alderman, the State takes 100% of GDP and people eat grass. In the UK for each extra percentage point of GDP consumed by the State we become more enslaved by the State. So, Alderman, you couldn't be more wrong.

Score: -4

southy
1:09pm Sat 19 Jul 14

The problem is that UKIP are behind the times they belong in the 1930's.
But what they are on about as all ready started, power and money slowly being taking away from councils and given to unelected bodys such as Solent LEP, for this is what this government ment when it said it will be giving more power and money to local authority it was not the councils but unelected bodys as the LEP's
We are slowly moving away from a Democratic Society and moving into a Dystopias Society

The problem is that UKIP are behind the times they belong in the 1930's.
But what they are on about as all ready started, power and money slowly being taking away from councils and given to unelected bodys such as Solent LEP, for this is what this government ment when it said it will be giving more power and money to local authority it was not the councils but unelected bodys as the LEP's
We are slowly moving away from a Democratic Society and moving into a Dystopias Societysouthy

The problem is that UKIP are behind the times they belong in the 1930's.
But what they are on about as all ready started, power and money slowly being taking away from councils and given to unelected bodys such as Solent LEP, for this is what this government ment when it said it will be giving more power and money to local authority it was not the councils but unelected bodys as the LEP's
We are slowly moving away from a Democratic Society and moving into a Dystopias Society

Score: 1

Dai Rear
5:34pm Sat 19 Jul 14

southy wrote…

The problem is that UKIP are behind the times they belong in the 1930's.
But what they are on about as all ready started, power and money slowly being taking away from councils and given to unelected bodys such as Solent LEP, for this is what this government ment when it said it will be giving more power and money to local authority it was not the councils but unelected bodys as the LEP's
We are slowly moving away from a Democratic Society and moving into a Dystopias Society

I think they're saying why have umpty ump councils with higher clerks all getting 50,000 plus and a whacking great pension for doing nothing very constructive when you can combine them all, have more ash carts and binmen and home helps and all the workers who matter and dispense with most of the froth on the top. Right up your street I'd have thought Trotsky.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
The problem is that UKIP are behind the times they belong in the 1930's.
But what they are on about as all ready started, power and money slowly being taking away from councils and given to unelected bodys such as Solent LEP, for this is what this government ment when it said it will be giving more power and money to local authority it was not the councils but unelected bodys as the LEP's
We are slowly moving away from a Democratic Society and moving into a Dystopias Society[/p][/quote]I think they're saying why have umpty ump councils with higher clerks all getting 50,000 plus and a whacking great pension for doing nothing very constructive when you can combine them all, have more ash carts and binmen and home helps and all the workers who matter and dispense with most of the froth on the top. Right up your street I'd have thought Trotsky.Dai Rear

southy wrote…

The problem is that UKIP are behind the times they belong in the 1930's.
But what they are on about as all ready started, power and money slowly being taking away from councils and given to unelected bodys such as Solent LEP, for this is what this government ment when it said it will be giving more power and money to local authority it was not the councils but unelected bodys as the LEP's
We are slowly moving away from a Democratic Society and moving into a Dystopias Society

I think they're saying why have umpty ump councils with higher clerks all getting 50,000 plus and a whacking great pension for doing nothing very constructive when you can combine them all, have more ash carts and binmen and home helps and all the workers who matter and dispense with most of the froth on the top. Right up your street I'd have thought Trotsky.

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