I hate everything about gun buy backs but isnt there a stipulation that all guns must be destroyed?? So how do you get by with preserving this one??.. and there for how do you keep not so honest police from preserving other ones?????

I hope someone thinks to check the s/n in the NFRTR before doing anything with that gun. If it was registered and just not transferred properly out of someone's estate the ATF may just let it go to someone else on a F4.

I actually saw the picture of the MP-40 on television and was astounded that the media didn't pick up on this! I figured we would be hearing all about the "machine gun toting nutbar citizens" at any minute from the gun control lobby. But, the anouncer did mention all the "Semi automatic machine guns " they were recieving in the turn in.

When ever I used to see gun buy backs we took the few junk guns down that were broken or not worth fixing when my family owned a pawnshop for years. Last time I took an old RG junk .22 that used to shave the bullet because the cylinder didn't line up with the barrel I got a $100 gift card. One thing I did notice is it would be real easy to get rid of a murder weapon this way. Also lot of stolen guns even if they run them and find they are stolen they don't return them to the owner.

IMHO, when gun buybacks are issued after a shooting incident, I can't help but think that it's the government trying to make you feel bad for even OWNING a firearm, and that giving it up is the 'proper' thing to do. That, and they don't even give you close to what the real value of the firearm is. Most people would make more money if they just sold them online, or found someone to do it for them.

"Gun buybacks are idiotic. The only people who benefit in any way from them are the insiders.

Do you think the guy pictured in the OP is the person who turned in the MP 40, or the guy who'll be taking it home?"

About 30 yrs ago I had a semi auto shotgun and scoped Ruger 10/22 confiscated by USA border patrol for no paper work. Coming from Canada. It falls under the stupid things I did in my youth. I filled out the proper forms to get my weapons back, and was informed that the firearms had already been destroyed. I thought that was complete BS. There was just no way that perfectly functioning sporting type firearms were going to be destroyed. I still believe it.

I sometimes think that more guns have gone on the streets illegally as a result of gun turn-in programs and corrupt police than are bought at those evil gun shows. How do I know? Well, I know of people who bought guns from the trunks of state police officers' cars. The buyers didn't use them in crime, but the cops didn't care as long as they got money for them.

And if the police confiscate "assault weapons", I can be pretty sure we will see a lot more crime with those guns than ever, courtesy of your local friendly police.

During the 1996 Australian seizure a gentleman turned in two general electric mini guns at Windsor police station, just down the road from RAAF Base Richmond where the helicopter gun ships sat. I've always wondered how high the compensation money was for turning in stolen govt. property under an amnesty.
In the Northern Territory some 16 grease packed 20mm Hispano Suiza cannon were turned in. The police chief was furious, insisting he would investigate and prosecute. Only problem was the legislation required him to compensate and forget.
No one asked the obvious question - where were the crated WWII aircraft kits they had been salvaged from. *sigh*

Jim K:
There have been several reports in Australia that the AR15 used in the Port Arthur massacre had been turned in to police in the state of Victoria after their police commissioner unilaterally banned registered military semi autos.
I've no documentary proof of this, although newspapers of the time stated that the serial numbers were 'similar'.

I do not think any local authority will be able to keep the MP-40 unless it, by some miracle, has legal registry in the NFA (and the papers can be found). I have been told that if it wasn't in the registry before or during amnesty in 1968, or was "rewatted" before 1986, the ban on new, civilian legal guns would prevent it. Even "registered" dewats have papers of some sort. It either has to be turned in to BATF, or destroyed. It can't even be dewatted. It has to be cut into at least three pieces.

Had a stolen S&W M60 recovered by ATL P.D. Notified me it was recovered, wanted me to verify serial number which I did. Said had to keep till trial as evidence. Year later I started inquiring as to when pistol would be returned. Was told it was destroyed. Few years later was contacted by another LEO about my little pistol. Seems it was used in a robbery and recovered when perp threw it down. I faxed them all forms from ATL P.D. and suddenly they said they had typo on their form. Always thought what actually happened is some cop took it home then sold it and it migrated into criminal hands again. They were really turning the screws on me as owner of record and when gave them the P.D. forms they could not get quiet fast enough, especially when I asked for my property back, again.

Should citizens trust their government? Including our own empire history says NO. Buy Back is in my view the crippling application of Law that governs citizens, and the Law of Government. In the current outcry for Gun Regulatory control the 'back ground check' is asked to be mandatory. Government buy/turn back is violating the intent of regulatory chain of ownership. This ownership is the clue in illegal use of a gun - murder etc. and Government is now waiving this supposed protective regulation outside of existing law. ??

I do not think any local authority will be able to keep the MP-40 unless it, by some miracle, has legal registry in the NFA (and the papers can be found). I have been told that if it wasn't in the registry before or during amnesty in 1968, or was "rewatted" before 1986, the ban on new, civilian legal guns would prevent it. Even "registered" dewats have papers of some sort. It either has to be turned in to BATF, or destroyed. It can't even be dewatted. It has to be cut into at least three pieces.

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