Cutter wrote on Jan 2, 2014, 21:16:Not thinking and not questioning is an even bigger insult to their memory because then you've let the real culprits get away with it. You really think some fucking semi-literate sheepherders orchestrated one of the greatest crimes of modern time in spite of the fact they were up against a global, multi-trillion dollar military/intellignce/law enforcement apparatus? Riiiiight. Yeah, don't question anything. Conform. Obey. Stop thinking. Just react. Yeah, that's the ticket. They did because they hate your freedoms. Just like shrub said. Yeah, that must be it.

You think 'thuthers' are bad? Well you guys are listening to and accepting the word of Bush and pals, so what does that make you? The biggest suckers alive.

Cutter wrote on Jan 2, 2014, 21:16:Not thinking and not questioning is an even bigger insult to their memory because then you've let the real culprits get away with it. You really think some fucking semi-literate sheepherders orchestrated one of the greatest crimes of modern time in spite of the fact they were up against a global, multi-trillion dollar military/intellignce/law enforcement apparatus? Riiiiight. Yeah, don't question anything. Conform. Obey. Stop thinking. Just react. Yeah, that's the ticket. They did because they hate your freedoms. Just like shrub said. Yeah, that must be it.

You think 'thuthers' are bad? Well you guys are listening to and accepting the word of Bush and pals, so what does that make you? The biggest suckers alive.

In all actuality, their plan doesn't seem all that difficult to pull off.

Not thinking and not questioning is an even bigger insult to their memory because then you've let the real culprits get away with it. You really think some fucking semi-literate sheepherders orchestrated one of the greatest crimes of modern time in spite of the fact they were up against a global, multi-trillion dollar military/intellignce/law enforcement apparatus? Riiiiight. Yeah, don't question anything. Conform. Obey. Stop thinking. Just react. Yeah, that's the ticket. They did because they hate your freedoms. Just like shrub said. Yeah, that must be it.

You think 'thuthers' are bad? Well you guys are listening to and accepting the word of Bush and pals, so what does that make you? The biggest suckers alive.

“That's it. You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college!”

It's one thing to argue the motives and where to point the finger with regards to a tragedy.

It is quite another to deny it's existence or occurrence, particularly when so many lost family and friends.

As one of those people who felt the loss, losing two friends in the Pentagon crash, I can only say that I hope you "deniers" never have to experience the same sort of loss to fully understand how hurtful, ignorant, and damaging you are. Hopefully you figure it out without anyone else having to die. It's bad enough you go around spitting on the graves of our loved ones by essentially pretending they didn't die.

Orogogus wrote on Jan 2, 2014, 02:22:I gather the conspiracy theorists think a missile hit the Pentagon, but what do they believe happened to the plane and everyone in it? Wouldn't that be a much bigger deal than a missile hitting the Pentagon? If it blew up somewhere else, then what about all this fuselage and wing business? Does the conspiracy run so deep that they have guys hauling wreckage sworn to secrecy?

Also, what's the point? I'd think any government agenda enabled by planes being hijacked and the towers falling down would have been just as effectively enabled by planes being hijacked and the towers merely being damaged. Is the idea that the public wouldn't have been on board unless the towers fell down, and the Pentagon... what, sustained 900 points of structural damage instead of 230? Planting explosives in the towers and and shooting missiles at the Pentagon seems like a lot of coverup work compared to just letting the planes do their thing and running with that.

You know what the worst part is? There was plane wreckage on the lawn of the Pentagon!

No, it wasn't. Look again with your eyes open this time.

Is this the fuselage and wing thing? There's a picture on wikipedia of a plane part on the lawn, but I'm not an exploding plane expert, so whatever. But what happened to the plane if it didn't get blown up in and around the Pentagon? There was a Flight 77, with a crew and passengers, and there isn't now. What's the simpler, common sense explanation for where they went if they didn't get blown up at the Pentagon? Wikipedia suggests that most of their remains were found and identified, which makes this scheme sound extremely complicated.

JayDeath wrote on Jan 2, 2014, 12:46:No, it wasn't. Look again with your eyes open this time.

That's pretty vague, what exactly are people supposed to be seeing? You talk about common sense and knowledge of the world but you haven't really presented any factual evidence to support your theory. When you assert a conspiracy it helps your credibility to actually put forth documentation and evidence of that conspiracy. Conjecture and opinion don't help the matter any.

JayDeath wrote on Jan 1, 2014, 15:16:All you have to do is look at the Pentagon 911 attack and use your common sense and knowledge of the world to see that there is some kind of conspiracy going on. We were told that a Boeing airliner hit the pentagon. Where's the wreckage of the plane? Where are the wings? Where is the fuselage? The grass wasn't even scorched by the remaining fuel that would have combusted. Once you've come to the conclusion that an airliner didn't hit the pentagon, the only other explanation is some sort of coverup. It's sickening.

I gather the conspiracy theorists think a missile hit the Pentagon, but what do they believe happened to the plane and everyone in it? Wouldn't that be a much bigger deal than a missile hitting the Pentagon? If it blew up somewhere else, then what about all this fuselage and wing business? Does the conspiracy run so deep that they have guys hauling wreckage sworn to secrecy?

Also, what's the point? I'd think any government agenda enabled by planes being hijacked and the towers falling down would have been just as effectively enabled by planes being hijacked and the towers merely being damaged. Is the idea that the public wouldn't have been on board unless the towers fell down, and the Pentagon... what, sustained 900 points of structural damage instead of 230? Planting explosives in the towers and and shooting missiles at the Pentagon seems like a lot of coverup work compared to just letting the planes do their thing and running with that.

You know what the worst part is? There was plane wreckage on the lawn of the Pentagon!

JayDeath wrote on Jan 1, 2014, 15:16:All you have to do is look at the Pentagon 911 attack and use your common sense and knowledge of the world to see that there is some kind of conspiracy going on. We were told that a Boeing airliner hit the pentagon. Where's the wreckage of the plane? Where are the wings? Where is the fuselage? The grass wasn't even scorched by the remaining fuel that would have combusted. Once you've come to the conclusion that an airliner didn't hit the pentagon, the only other explanation is some sort of coverup. It's sickening.

LOL @irony of you using terms like common sense and knowledge. Two things you clearly do not have.

JayDeath wrote on Jan 1, 2014, 15:16:All you have to do is look at the Pentagon 911 attack and use your common sense and knowledge of the world to see that there is some kind of conspiracy going on. We were told that a Boeing airliner hit the pentagon. Where's the wreckage of the plane? Where are the wings? Where is the fuselage? The grass wasn't even scorched by the remaining fuel that would have combusted. Once you've come to the conclusion that an airliner didn't hit the pentagon, the only other explanation is some sort of coverup. It's sickening.

I gather the conspiracy theorists think a missile hit the Pentagon, but what do they believe happened to the plane and everyone in it? Wouldn't that be a much bigger deal than a missile hitting the Pentagon? If it blew up somewhere else, then what about all this fuselage and wing business? Does the conspiracy run so deep that they have guys hauling wreckage sworn to secrecy?

Also, what's the point? I'd think any government agenda enabled by planes being hijacked and the towers falling down would have been just as effectively enabled by planes being hijacked and the towers merely being damaged. Is the idea that the public wouldn't have been on board unless the towers fell down, and the Pentagon... what, sustained 900 points of structural damage instead of 230? Planting explosives in the towers and and shooting missiles at the Pentagon seems like a lot of coverup work compared to just letting the planes do their thing and running with that.

You know what the worst part is? There was plane wreckage on the lawn of the Pentagon!

Some people are just really, really stupid.But yes, they claim that the flight that went down also didn't exist. Yet we all know that Beamer guy, and we all saw his wife get interviewed. Was he fictional and they were actors (people out there actually believe Tom Cruise played a part as a Newtown parent, so yeah, people believe actors are used), or did the government round up all the people on the plane and kill them so it would look real?

Actually, the worst part is no idiot can tie any of these loose conspiracies together.The WTC was planned by the government, who planted bombs that were perfectly placed where the planes hit, since videos show the buildings start their fall on those floors.WTC7 was then taken down, too, because it's too easy to assume a 14 floor gash, combined with thousands of tons of steel and concrete shaking its foundation is enough to bring a building down. The NYFD was involved in this, I mean, "let's pull it" is a clear indication. If I wanted to covertly bring down a building, I'd tell the entire fucking fire department so that they could broadcast it, even though I didn't tell them the twin towers were coming down.Then half the planes weren't real. Why? Who fucking knows. Why the fuck would they need two more planes, and why would they fake it when that would be fairly obvious? What did they possibly gain? Again, who fucking knows, but man, it must have happened!

'Truthers' make me laugh and feel sad at the same time. Their gullibility is funny, but the fact that adults can be made to belive virtually anything by a few amateurish youtube videos slapped together by psychotic shut-ins is more than a little disheartening.

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JayDeath wrote on Jan 1, 2014, 15:16:All you have to do is look at the Pentagon 911 attack and use your common sense and knowledge of the world to see that there is some kind of conspiracy going on. We were told that a Boeing airliner hit the pentagon. Where's the wreckage of the plane? Where are the wings? Where is the fuselage? The grass wasn't even scorched by the remaining fuel that would have combusted. Once you've come to the conclusion that an airliner didn't hit the pentagon, the only other explanation is some sort of coverup. It's sickening.

I gather the conspiracy theorists think a missile hit the Pentagon, but what do they believe happened to the plane and everyone in it? Wouldn't that be a much bigger deal than a missile hitting the Pentagon? If it blew up somewhere else, then what about all this fuselage and wing business? Does the conspiracy run so deep that they have guys hauling wreckage sworn to secrecy?

Also, what's the point? I'd think any government agenda enabled by planes being hijacked and the towers falling down would have been just as effectively enabled by planes being hijacked and the towers merely being damaged. Is the idea that the public wouldn't have been on board unless the towers fell down, and the Pentagon... what, sustained 900 points of structural damage instead of 230? Planting explosives in the towers and and shooting missiles at the Pentagon seems like a lot of coverup work compared to just letting the planes do their thing and running with that.

Laugh at conspiracy theorists? You mean the same people who told you for years that the gubment is spying on every aspect of your life? Yeah, what the hell do they know? Even if they didn't have a hand in it, they knew and they let it happen. Cui bono?

“That's it. You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college!”