It is a time of fear in the face of freedom, a time of an emptying country and swelling cities, a time for the widening of previous roads and the opening of new paths, yet a time when these paths are mined by knowing algorithms of the all-seeing eye. It is the time of the warrior's peace and the miser's charity, when the planting of a seed is an act of conscientious objection. These are the times when maps fade, old landmarks crumble and direction is lost. Forwards is backwards now, so we glance sideways at the strange lands through which we are all passing, knowing for certain only that our destination has disappeared. We are unready to meet these times, but we proceed nonetheless, adapting as we wander, reshaping the Earth with every tread. Behind us we have left the old times, the standard times, the high times. Welcome to the irregular times.

Arctic Sea Ice Growing At Less Than Average Rate

News from the National Snow and Ice Data Center this month shows the continuing influence of global warming. Arctic sea ice growth is significantly below average so far this year, when compared to the historical average.

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There is no such thing as “Global warming.”everything proves global warming to you alarmists,(Don Quixote syndrome) the reason none of your so called experts will have a debate with real scientists whom you call names for even calling questions to the Alarmists which is windmill fighting like Don Quixote who was delusional, as are ye! If not you should get your so called experts to start having debates on the issues.Oh yeah I forgot, “you say the debate is over.” The question is settled because you delusionally say so.

wow. “no such thing as ‘Global warming.'” How irresponsible is this person. I’m sure he means this is his opinion. I have an opinion about it as well but would rather apply a logical and mature approach. Generally most people saying there isn’t an issue just aren’t thinking things through. Fine, forget about global warming. I wonder what this opinionated person has done in the last year to act as a responsible member of this planet. It looks like his greatest contribution is to support “use and discard” rather than “plan for the future.” It’s much easier to say “everything is OK” and we don’t need to be considerate. I guess this “Don Quixote syndrome” guy has that in spades. How sad for everyone.

ce levels had been tracking lower throughout much of 2008, but rapidly recovered in the last quarter. In fact, the rate of increase from September onward is the fastest rate of change on record, either upwards or downwards.

The data is being reported by the University of Illinois’s Arctic Climate Research Center, and is derived from satellite observations of the Northern and Southern hemisphere polar regions.

Anonymous, global warming is easily defined – it’s warming that takes place on a global scale. It’s easily measured – with thermometers around the world. When the average global temperature measured by those thermometers rises, that’s global warming. It’s been measured. It exists.

There can be no debate on this issue, unless you believe that the thermometers are wrong. Is that your argument?

Oh and my the way there is no such thing as “gravity.” Everything proves gravity to you alarmists,(Don Quixote syndrome) the reason none of your so called experts will have a debate with real scientists whom you call names for even calling questions to the Alarmists which is windmill fighting like Don Quixote who was delusional, as are ye! If not you should get your so called experts to start having debates on the issues.Oh yeah I forgot, “you say the debate is over.” The question is settled because you delusionally say so. Eighteen billion PhD’s are suing Al Gore because he will not debate them. Al Gore is ridiculous; Al Gore believes in gravity; therefore there is no gravity. How am I supposed to know you don’t own stock in an elevator company! Wake up, people. It’s all a scam!

There is no such thing as “Evolution.” everything proves evolution to you alarmists,(Don Quixote syndrome) the reason none of your so called experts will have a debate with real scientists whom you call names for even calling questions to the Alarmists which is windmill fighting like Don Quixote who was delusional, as are ye! If not you should get your so called experts to start having debates on the issues.Oh yeah I forgot, “you say the debate is over.” The question is settled because you delusionally say so.

The Earth is dynamic and its temperature has fluctuated for billions of years. Pollution and environmental destruction are very negative, but the claims that we are having such a drastic impact on the Earth’s temperature are not well supported. We should do our best to ensure a more sustainable and less polluting existence, but we are not responsible for “global warming”. We do not control the Earth – it controls us. The fact that ice ages have occurred historically further illustrates the more powerful natural forces that are always working with or without the assistance of humans.

There is data everywhere to support my statements. If fact, you can even do the calculation yourself:

Figure out approximately how much CO2 is added to the atmosphere each year by humans as a percentage of total naturally occurring CO2 – this is staggeringly low. I have done a quick calculation with data available on the internet – it’s less than 1%. This figure alone shows that there must be other forces at work. And as for sea ice melting, I would venture to say that these ice sheets have been growing and shrinking throughout history long before “recorded history”. THE EARTH IS DYNAMIC! Pollution is terrible, however, and our existence is completely unsustainable on a long-term basis, but we are only insignificantly contributing to “global warming” at present. Likewise, I strongly doubt that the ice sheets have done anything this winter except grow larger – do you have any data that refutes this statement?

Of course ice sheets grow larger in the winter. Your statements such as “total naturally occurring CO2″ are so broad as to possibly mean just anything. And as Peregrin Wood points out, you haven’t linked to any sources of data. Anybody can do secret calculations that secretly prove anything beyond a doubt. Bring your data to the light of day — and make they’re relevant to the question at hand. For instance, you’ll have to show that additions of 1% extra CO2 to the atmosphere by humans each year is not a substantial impact and is actually “staggeringly low” in its effect. Just because your figure says “1%” doesn’t mean that the figure is substantively unimportant. Make my bloodstream a 1% solution of arsenic and I’m still dead.

I will put a formal calculation together as soon as possible and see what you think. I am actually interested to hear your opinion.

Have you thoroughly considered and quantified the potential “naturally occurring” external factors that may be contributing to our altered climate for example Milankovitch cycles (Earth’s Orbit around the sun) and possibly the Sun’s orbit around the galaxy? If so, I would be interested in your input.

I agree with your arsenic analogy, however I am still not convinced as a whole. This is a very interesting topic, but at present I see to many other potential variables in this equation. I will do a calculation as soon as possible and see what you think.

Max, that’s an absurd position that is completely out of touch with scientific research. To believe that, you’d have to believe that the level of atmospheric carbon dioxide has no relationship to climate.

I’ve seen this confusion, intentional or not, in a lot of discussion on climate change. Individuals point to a piece of research concluding that even if we cut CO2 emissions, the condition of our climate will get worse. Then they say, “see, we might as well emit that CO2, since it doesn’t matter!” But that ignores the very important distinction between a little worse, a moderate amount worse, quite a bit worse and cataclysmically worse. The degree of change matters in climate, just as the difference between a migraine and a skewer through the head matters.

That Jim isn’t me, by the way. And no, that’s not true. Read here, Other Jim. A sensor failed over the last month, the failure is being addressed, and the trends of the data are backed up by other sensors.

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