They pay plenty of taxes, including payroll taxes, sales taxes, and taxes on dividends and capital gains paid by their shareholders. They only avoid income tax. But corporate income tax comes out of the pockets of some combination of their employees, customers, and shareholders. If you think employees should pay more, then raise payroll taxes. If you think customers should pay more, then raise sales taxes. If you think shareholders should pay more then raise taxes on dividends and capital gains. Any o

How did you determine it's "plenty", by noting that they pay more in the way of taxes than you do? "Plenty" should be in proportion to income.

But corporate income tax comes out of the pockets of some combination of their employees, customers, and shareholders.

"Some combination" leaves a lot of latitude and the biggest question of all unanswered. You did however make the observation that there's no such thing as a free lunch. Let me add that the sun rises in the east and that water is wet. They're all truisms, but so obviously true as to make the mention of them trite.

If you think customers should pay more, then raise sales taxes. If you think shareholders should pay more then raise taxes on dividends and capital gains.

I'll vote for the last. Taxing "long term" (greater than 1 year is long term?) capital gains at a a max marginal rate of 15%, even if you're a billionaire, while middle class schnooks pay a higher marginal rate on their earned income (IRS term), is obscene. Have you noticed the vast political movement to change that? Or that the average person in the street, fed "information" by the sycophantic media, are even aware of such an absurd disparity?

The problem here is there are people who are middle class and people who think they are middle class. You are middle class if you have a professional job or are a tradesmen with some savings and the ability to make choices. You quit and move to a different city because you want to for example. If you nothing but debts and your credit is maxed out and would be looking at foreclosure after a few months if you lose a job, you are not middle class. I don't care how big your McMansion is or have many SUVs yo

The actual middle class has savings in investments and that 15% tax rates helps them lots.

The vast majority of middle class investments are in IRA's and 401k's, where they should be, and where you don't pay taxes on them until you retire anyway. Very few retirees pay above a 15% tax rate, so the limit on capitals gains rates doesn't help them at all.

Maybe it should be 15% on the first 100K and go up from there but just blanket raising the capital gains would be bad for middle class America.

That's the same idea as the progressive rates on other forms of income. Ergo, there is no need to do anything other than eliminate the 15% ceiling on capital gains rates. Even Reagan thought that was a good idea, and signed into law a bill that did t

All Taxes are regressive. ALWAYS. Liberals always talk about "equity" of taxes, but they never realize that taxes themselves are regressive. The rich can always avoid taxes via their wealth. The poor can never avoid taxes. Targeting the rich at their wealth, does nothing but hurt those that it is designed to help.

If you want to punish the successful, reward failure, you're going to have a really backwards country. And since you are a liberal, I doubt you'll ever understand this simple little truth.

The new America: Crushing the middle class, consolidating wealth to the 0.25% of the wealthy, and importing cheap labor and/or outsourcing work. America is starting to become the new Mexico where we have a new have and have-not society. The middle-class is a threat to those in power and wanting to stay in power. This nation is fucked. And we haven't even talked about soon-to-be hyper inflation spurned by insolvency. But that's ok right? Hyper inflation will just create an even larger disparity in wealthy. B

What mindless babble is this? It's posted in the VERY STORY about the "hour of code" designed to train young people everywhere (which includes Amercia!) how to code!

As for not paying anything - the U.S. has the highest corporate tax rate on earth. Lots of companies (and people for that matter) don't mind paying taxes but hate being robbed. Can you blame them? Well I know YOU can, but could anyone reasonable?

It's posted in the VERY STORY about the "hour of code" designed to train young people everywhere (which includes Amercia!) how to code!

A week long "hour of code" just puts a positive spin on their overall program, which focuses mostly on things like the H-1B program. If you're fooled by that propaganda effort, then I've got a bridge to sell you.

We need to give MORE MONEY to really, really, really rich people, so they can do a few charities for AIDS and have after school programs for kids to play with code.

Then we bend over and let them import labor from people who were college educated where it was subsidized getting paid less than an American to do a job. Did they mention how we pay for our own educations now?

As for not paying anything - the U.S. has the highest corporate tax rate on earth. Except for being completely wrong in the real world where most of the Fortune 500 are paying around 5% -- good points there.

Lots of companies (and people for that matter) don't mind paying taxes but hate being robbed. Can you blame them? Well I know YOU can, but could anyone reasonable?

I'm sorry, I'm too busy sending out resumes and keeping the lights on for my kids while my wife and I both work full time temp jobs without be

But, as the AC immediately above you pointed out, at least people would have tried to run them out of town. Or, at the very least, people would have wanted to run them out of town, and thought they deserved it.

Compare that to today where most people don't think they should be run out of town. Talk about effective brainwashing! At least most people back then understood economic reality, despite supposedly being less educated. Maybe the absence of TV, not to mention the existence of an actual opposition press

I've always been willing to forge my own path to learning, I learn what I want to learn and I'm willing to dedicate my time and money to doing so.

All the greatest developers I've known are those who have a passion for learning, and they keep doing so, they never stop. If someone has this entitlement attitude where industry owns them training then they don't have that trait, sure you could send them on a training course for this, that, and the other, but if t

Why? FB/Zuck and MS/Gates are the ultimate entitlists. They think they're entitled to not pay taxes, unlike us middle class schnooks. They think they're entitled to special government programs, like the H-1B visa program, to increase the profitability of already wealthy corporations and their major stockholders.

By contrast, you play the useful idiot [wikipedia.org], regurgitating propaganda like the "global economy you need to give companies an incentive to stay and support your local economy". As for "why should they even

Its not their responsibility to train you but we probably should ask the question whey they don't want to. Is it because the American education system is not turning out young adults that are even fit for entry level positions in tech firms?

Is it that other nations are turning out young adults that are so much better qualified?

Do companies no longer see a benefit from developing and retaining talent in house? People used to have entire professional careers at just one or two organizations. Why has this c

Yet they came up with the curriculum, dubbed it "Common Core", and are helping fund the implementation. But, yea, they expect the middle class taxpayers to fund the actual training for the next generation of corporate cogs.

Apparently that economist, Mr. Paul Collier, doesn't even have any braincell to think.

From the TFA:

Collier argues that there are also downsides to the tech giants' plans to shift more bright, young, enterprising people from the poorest countries to the richest

MOST of those young, bright and enterprising people from the POOREST COUNTRIES won't get ANY chance to tap on their potential in their own country, and I am speaking as someone who had been through exactly that scenario.

When I came out of China, back in the early 1970's, China was in a VERY TERRIBLE STATE.

Millions of ordinary citizens had died of hunger.

Social upheaval were everywhere - goons waving that little red book were ransacking/looting people's houses they accused of "anti-revolutionary".

If I WERE to stay in China, I had only two choices: Either joined those goons in doing all the WRONG THINGS they had been doing, or to stay absolutely low key, go into a remote village somewhere, and work as a farm hand.

But I got out of China and ended up in America.

In America, I got to further my education (I already had high school education back in China), I got to learn many things from many very brainy people who came to America from all over the world, I got the chance to participate in the American dream, I got to start my own companies, I got to sell my companies for huge profit and re-invest the monies into even more startups.

I could NEVER do any of that had I stuck in China.

Nowadays I am helping many young, bright and very enterprising people in poor countries in Asia, Africa and South America, by either inviting them to become my co-workers in the companies that I own (full or part), or I invest in their startups.

That Mr. Paul Collier is nothing but a talking head.

Most of the poor countries in the world simply do not have the infrastructure to allow those young, bright and enterprising people to do what they can do.

Most of the governments in those poor countries are mired in unbelievably mountains of bureaucratic red tapes, red tapes that do nothing but making the lives of their own citizens even that much more miserable.

I came from one of those poor countries, I know what was/is happening.

I am not saying that Bill Gates and/or Mark Zuckerberg are right to do whatever they do, but at least they are offering many young, bright and enterprising people from poor countries A CHANCE TO PROVE THEIR WORTH TO THE WORLD, and also to themselves.

As for Mr. Paul Collier, other than being a talking head, what did/does he do to help out those young, bright and enterprising people in the poorest countries in the world ?

Nowadays I am helping many young, bright and very enterprising people in poor countries in Asia, Africa and South America, by either inviting them to become my co-workers in the companies that I own (full or part), or I invest in their startups.

Are you helping them IN the poor countries in Asia, Africa, and South America -- or are you bringing them to America and "helping" them here?

If all you ever do is bring people here, how the hell are the poor countries ever going to become anything other than poor? Build things THERE. Don't bring them here, to take opportunities from American citizens. Yeah, yeah, you have your little pity stories to tell about poverty and oppression, and I'm sure it's all true. But I care about that, and your "young, bright, and very enterprising people" from all over the world, to the exact same extent you care about anyone in America -- not at all.

The American Dream was supposed to be FOR Americans. Make your own damn dreams. No, seriously -- make all those other countries WORTH staying in, and living in, and being in. Or can you only have your dreams here in America, with the infrastructure paid for by Americans, with the legal systems built and maintained and paid for by Americans, with the society and ideals fought and paid and died for by Americans?

Immigrants are an integral part of the American Dream and much of the success America has seen. Also, having success in the US doesn't mean that they can't come back at some point and also try to help their native country.

Every time an H1B story is posted here, we get a lot of Tea Party-type comments from people

No you don't. I've been reading Slashdot for years and have never seen Tea Party members of any kind post against LEGAL immigration, which is healthy. In fact most of us stick up for H1B guys because we know a lot of them... it's the liberals who cry that H1B are stealing jobs from America and need to be banned.

The problem the Tea Party has is with illegal immigrants, which generally are not nearly as desirable or productive members of society (and who would expect they would be when the very act of coming here starts out by committing a crime?)

It's criminal how you and others cannot seem to distinguish between legal and illegal immigration, which are vastly different things.

Fine. Let's swarm every corner of this country with Homeland Security goons to collar anyone who looks a little brown, ask him Sus papeles, por favor, and beat the mierda out of him when he answers in English, all in the name of freedom. Let's build the Great Wall of Texas.

And the Tea Party can be the ones to propose some taxes to pay for it all.

Speaking as someone who would not be offended to be labels a TEA party member my problem with illegal immigration is its a basic question of rule of law. If the law does not work or we don't want to enforce it, than it should be repealed or amended. If its on the books it should be enforced. No exceptions no playing favorites, collar them a prosecute them; deport them. Its a stupid policy but we should change it not just ignore it and fail to enforce it.

People should go back and look up the Know Nothing party of the 1840's...

Those people include you, because you don't understand what the Know Nothing party was about. Mostly it was anti-Catholic, because supposedly Catholics would obey what the pope said and hence were anti-democratic. Nevertheless there were more general xenophobic sentiments, but don't view things from a 21st century POV and underestimate the strength of anti-Catholic sentiment back then.

Contrast that to today. Do you see any concern here for guest workers having different religious beliefs than most Americans

Why do we need a "dual intent" visa? Many of the people here, who join Zuckerberg and Gates in extolling the virtues of an expanded H-1B program, confuse the issue by saying things like "immigrants are an integral part of the American Dream". I agree with their sentiment about immigrants, but how does immigration of the past compare to today's H-1B program? Amongst other things, American immigration law eschewed guest worker programs, and forbade employers from seeking out or hiring people in foreign countr

Oh for fuck's safe, "The American Dream was supposed to be FOR Americans"?? Which Americans were those? Are the Irish and Italians and Jews allowed to prosper, or is success only for the WASPs? Anyone who's willing to follow our laws and pay their taxes should be welcome. They certainly contribute more than the tax-dodging, money-laundering elite.

The issue isn't whether the best and the brightest from overseas should be able to fill the gaps in the demand for skilled workers. The issue is whether they should be doing it through the flawed H1-B program. If Zuckerberg and Gates were arguing for a streamlined path to citizenship or even green cards for workers with skills that are at a shortage in the US, that would be a different matter. But the H1-B allows companies to pay 60%-70% of what they would pay a citizen for 3-6 years before they get sent home.

If the workers could become US citizens, they could build their lives here and be active members of the community invested in our collective future. But the tech giants want disposable talent to use and send home. It's short-sighted and will ensure that we have a lot more foreign competition as skilled talent leaves at the end of their H1-Bs and build competing technology in their home countries.

Zuckerberg is worth 19 billion [forbes.com]. Assuming facebook saves 50k$ per year with every H1B hire...assuming zero costs for the hire...and assuming all of this is going straight into Zuckerberg's pocket, that's still chump change...

You're confusing the supposed market value of Zuck's stock with FB's income. FB has a P/E of 123. If they don't reduce that, somebody may eventually wake up and issue a lot of sell orders for FB. Besides, there's the principle of the thing. Even if Zuck didn't personally like the idea (admittedly a very big "if"), the Wall Street buys will derate your stock if you're not doing everything possible to screw your American employees.

I'm just getting off about ten years of unemployment as a software engineer. I'm competent, I graduated from Carnegie Mellon University, and my major pass time at home is programming. For whatever reason I couldn't seem to find a job. I put out thousands of resumes on monster and Dice, but had less than ten interviews in ten years. Thankfully I just recently got a job doing hardware. It is just weird what this world can do to you. No matter how much talent you have, or how hard you work, if no one wants to give you a chance, the world is a rough place. I think lots of people are seeing this today with the lack of jobs for even talented individuals.

Anyway, that is my point. There are plenty of talented and educated people in this country. The tech companies just don't want to pay a fair wage in a regular display of union busting. I know my story might be on the edge of a bellcurve, but I'm just saying I understand personally what it is like to never get a chance at a job. If you don't watch, it can grind into your very self worth.

That is weird. Maybe you were asking for too much or your specific area of expertise is obsolete. I say that because I don't see many people having that much trouble finding a programmer job. The programmer market is still very on the side of offer. Outsourcing and H-1B are surely pushing into the other direction but we are not quite there yet.

There's an odd preference for already-employed people, so there's this kind of self-reinforcing phenomenon where, if you already have a job, you can easily get five job offers, but if you have no job, you can't get any job offers. Especially true if you've been unemployed for a non-negligible period of time: 3 months or something is fine, looks like you're just between jobs, but 3 years and employers start to assume there must be some horrible dark reason, and pass on the resume. Basically a variety [wikipedia.org] of "soc

How closely were your loss of your job and subsequent inability to get another one correlated with your claims of God talking to you?

The irony is very amusing, all the more for how so many are oblivious to it. Many of those who join Zuck and Bill in being pro-H1-B visa program, liken those who are opposed to the Know-Nothings. Uh, folks, read your history - the Know-Nothings were primarily anti-Catholic. Meanwhile this sort of bigotry, where someone is made fun of for having religious beliefs, passes almost entirely without comment.

He's not making fun of him for having religious beliefs, he's making fun of him for being completely oblivious to the fact that maybe he's unemployable because he's suffering delusions.

It's one thing to believe in some god, I think most people have no problem with that. It's not my cup of tea, but each to there own. However, it's a whole other thing to believe he speaks to you. That requires you to hear voices in your head. That requires you to be actually clinically insane.

People who are clinically insane tend not to be the best workers.

You'd have had a point if you'd instead talked about the fact we shouldn't joke about people who have mental health issues, then you'd be right.

You have to remember, companies would rather have an H1B with marginal qualifications rather than a citizen with marginal qualifications. I've seen programmers struggle because they have poor people skills even though they take "people classes". Should they just change careers?

I'll make an argument, software development is a profession with logic at it's core. It's inherent in just about everything you do as a developer.

You hence need to be capable of logical thinking that is to be able to make logical deductions.

When you get a job as a developer you'll hence most likely be working with very logical people, people who can deduce when your arguments and ideas don't make sense, and will expect you to back down if you can't logically defend your claim.

Credential inflation coupled with supply and demand in the market place. If you have more people looking for a job with CS degrees than positions available as an IT administrator, then a CS is a *requirement* as part of the criteria of not having your resume filtered out. HR has to cut the stack somewhere, or so that's their rational. And yes, a CS degree isn't needed to be an excellent IT administrator. Again, just required to get an interview.

The goal is to make every job in the US blue collar with no benefits. This is not hyperbole or metaphor.

I have friend with decades of film production experience and he is de facto unemployable. The jobs are outsourced, or filled by 1H-B holders. He can't find work outside the film industry because he is "overqualified". When he applies for retail like Target or Starbucks, they don't want him because younger workers are easier to push around and abuse.

If you think that you are immune because you are "a professional", just wait. Get 10 or 15 years of experience and watch that become the reason that you won't be hired.

Meanwhile, Wall Street hits new highs on a regular basis. There is a direct causal relationship going on here. The wealth going to the rich is being siphoned from the rest of society. If things don't change the US will have a economic/social structure like the Spanish speaking part of the Americas. Don't be surprised when this happens, you had plenty of warning.

If you think that you are immune because you are "a professional", just wait. Get 10 or 15 years of experience and watch that become the reason that you won't be hired.

Hmm. I have 26 years of experience. How much longer do I need to wait? I work with a couple of guys who've been professional programmers for nearly 40 years. The industry had better hurry up and ruin them pretty quickly, or they'll retire first.

Here's the cold, hard facts: For every one of you who win that fucking friend lottery, there are thousands of people who don't.

That sort of observation is only relevant when a) it's actually a "fact", and b) a different bunch of "thousands of people" for each person who won the "friend lottery".

An actual survey [chicagotribune.com] found that more than half of all jobs offered were filled internally or by referral. That indicates to me that a lot of people, not merely one in a few thousand, found jobs via the "friend lobby".

I personally, have picked up at least three jobs via the "friend lottery". I don't think I'm even remotely unusual in that.

I've been in the software job market 14 years. Everyone I know who's good at what he or she does has a job. The two folks I know who have trouble staying employed are, not coincidentally, not that great at what they do. Nice people, just not great coders. And even they manage to stay employed 90% of the time. Both are over 45, btw.

I worked for one of the biggest Document Management software makers for a number of years and lost my job about 2 years ago now. Im only 28 and have been working since I was 15 (ran a network for a car dealership from purchase to installation to upkeep from 15-20) and it took me 2 years to finally get a new job. I got the job because my friend got a promotion and they needed to fill his job so he put in a word for me. Sure Im making 1/2 of what I was in 2011, but at least im working again. Now lets see if t

Those guys apparently offer better ROI than your friend. If your friend worked for H1B money then he might have a job. Also, I call B.S. on not being able to get a job at Starbucks or Target. I regularly see older folks working in those positions. Maybe he should parlay his film experience and get a job at a specialty camera store? Or hell, somewhere like Fry's or Best Buy?

that is right since the 1980's when some wanna be hipppy farts decided we are a country of innovators

Hippies (at least learn to spell it right - only two p's and ending in "ie"), a species that was extinct even back then, were responsible for the 80's loss of industry that was largely due to an overvalued dollar? Who knew.

Or allow employers to offer insurance that only pays out what Medicare doesn't cover first, for employes who are covered by Medicare. If Medicare is on the hook first then the expected health expenditures of an older employee (from the insurer's point of view) shouldn't be that out-of-whack compared to younger employees.

Agreed both Billgates and Zuckererg are great businessmen, but it is pushing it a bit too hard and too far to make them "exemplified coders", because on both of these characters resides charges (or rumors) of "having built an empire by taking other's codes". So I wonder what kind of good example that would be, "yeah son, steal or buy your friend's code, market it and be rich":p, sure thing if you want to make your kid into a business man, bad if you want to have a bright kid just for the sake of brag rig

Do you realize that some people might want to get a piece of the cake ? USA used to be a land of opportunities, it has merely became a land of privileges for those rightly born. I will not say that US workers are lazy, but if there is someone equally competent want it hard, there is barely anything you can do but toughen and get better. I know, this is pretty damn difficult. Asking question about oneself, accepting that you are not the best for a task is hard, but this is what make you stronger. If you want

Btw, yes, I am an immigrant in North America, coming from the old' Europe, currently in Canada, but YES, I *am* lurking hard to move south within the next 5 years. And YES, if that mean being a whore to a big tech company, I WILL be, without any remorse.

Looking back, I should probably have moved to the US first, but well... life...

Attracting the best talent is good for an organization. The U.S. is an organization. If we suppose "increasing GDP per capita" is a worthwhile goal, then bringing in a bunch of highly productive people isn't a bad way to go about it. Now, "guy who does phone tech support" may not qualify, but "guy who earned a STEM Ph.D. or M.D. at a U.S. university" almost surely does. Those folks should be automatically fast-tracked for citizenship if it's something they're interested in.

I mentioned "guy who does phone tech support" as an example of someone we might not want to fast-track for citizenship. That is to say, if all the tech companies want to do is import "grunts" then those folks might not do much to increase the average productivity of "people living and working in the United States". The case for allowing unlimited immigration of less-than-superlatively-productive folks isn't quite as strong as the case for allowing unlimited immigration of superlatively-productive folks, s

yeah spending hundreds of millions of dollars eradicating diseases like malaria in poor countries is so immoral...oh right but you only care that Windows is closed source.

To be fair, Gates got that money by breaking the law. His unfair competition resulted worldwide adoption of an insecure system, causing untold hardship across the industry (against more robust systems with few security flaws).

Actually up until the point of the gates foundation, Bill Gates was the ultimate Scrooge. He gae away not one penny, it wasn't until he was called out on that very fact that the Gates foudration was formed.

Even much of the supposedly altruistic efforts also seem to have an angle:http://m.slashdot.org/story/171367

Actually up until the point of the gates foundation, Bill Gates was the ultimate Scrooge. He gae away not one penny, it wasn't until he was called out on that very fact that the Gates foudration was formed.

Even much of the supposedly altruistic efforts also seem to have an angle

That's right. Gates was hated, and he wanted to do something about it before Congress held any more hearings and found something (like antitrust) to prosecute him for.

The philanthropy thing was created by his PR agency, and they did a good job. At their advice, he did fund some important projects, like international disease programs that were exactly what all the public health people knew would give tremendous returns for only a relatively few (billion) dollars.

MS had already engaged in some serious antitrust behavior circa 1990, before they were anywhere near the behemoth they are today.

what a load of crap, Windows may not have been the most secure system but against the horrible burden of IBM and the infancy and general lack of usability of GNU/Linux, Windows was the obvious choice and a choice made by people who were indeed free to choose. To this day some people would rather pretend they were completely helpless and at the mercy of big bad Microsoft than admit they made a poor choice.

Have you considered that the lack of viable competition might have been the result of robust set of anti-competitive practices? Also, by grossly oversimplifying things like you did, you forget that things weren't all that simple. MS was strong-arming OEMs if they dared to install competing OS's or browsers, and they ignored standards in IE while actively breaking compatibility of plugins.

Clever, aggressive, and at times outright illegal business practices. Windows may have won because of a lack of good competition (in part due to MS efforts to sabotage OS/2), but they also used a bundling technique to kill off competition for browser and media players, and a lock-in technique to achieve dominance for a time in media technology.

The old 'divx;-)' codec was actually just Microsoft's video codec with a hack. The codec was fine, but the decoder shipped with Windows was deliberately limited to o

Here is something that gets me. And I am no windows fanboi by any means, but I still for the life of me do not understand how MS got in trouble for bundling a web browser. I mean by that logic should we not be looking into apple for locking down everything? Apple bundles safari lets stone them! oh what? android bundles chrome on chromebooks? break out the lawsuits! I mean I followed the case I just dont get it is all

...Microsoft decided to "cut off their air supply" (their words) by releasing Internet Explorer (a browser they purchased from a company called Spyglass after Navigator's release) as part of Windows. Not just as an app that happened to ship with Windows, but as a necessary PART OF WINDOWS...

The skeeziest part of that deal actually wasn't Microsoft's attack on Netscape - it was their raw screwing of Spyglass. For those who don't remember this history, Microsoft licensed Mosaic (which they re-branded as Internet Explorer) from Spyglass for a minimal quarterly licensing fee plus a cut of the revenue from every copy of the browser that they sold. They then proceeded to give the browser away for free** with every copy of Windows, thereby not owing Spyglass any of the commission. Spyglass threatened

I'm not familiar with the backstory, but my intuition tells me, and this article agrees (http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/january/new0122d.htm), that once the payout happened it replaced the royalty deal. That settlement was January 1997, long predating any serious integration of IE with Windows (IE4 was the first with shell integration in October 1997).

What was Gates' equivalent to the Homestead Strike [wikipedia.org]? Please, stop the hyperbole. It doesn't help your arguments. I remember Microsoft in the 80's and (especially) the 90's. Their sleazy business practices should have been stopped. They did economic harm to customers (the main concern of anti-trust law). The company should have been broken up after the anti-trust trial (MS Office on Linux would make Linus desktop adoption much easier). Nevertheless, last I checked, Microsoft IP goons are generally unarmed.

yeah spending hundreds of millions of dollars eradicating diseases like malaria in poor countries is so immoral...oh right but you only care that Windows is closed source.

The harm done by the organization and the companies that the foundation fund invests in does too much damage for the disease mitigation efforts they spend some of the money on. They created, lobbied for and are funding the implementation of "Common Core" (and, yes, Common Core is bad. I trust what the teachers say about it).

And despite what you have heard about the foundation's funding for immunizations in poor countries, a great amount of money goes to fund sterilization and abortion programs. It's a

The iDot... Apple's new (patent and copyright pending) way to end sentences and provide a break between the integer and fractional parts of a number. According to Apple, it looks better than the old "decimal point" that it replaces, it has more caché, has been designed with usability in mind, and it runs the latest version of iOS.It is also fully compatible with your web browser and email system, and all such systems will be automatically upgraded to work with the new symbol.A small licensing fee will

Bah, I hate it when/. blocks characters it knows nothing about... Pnyn should come out to be something like Pinyin, but with a bar over the i's:(Hopefully the community do not slaughter me for that mistake *prays*...

His plan is essentially to produce enough low-quality** "code monkey"programmers to mirror the situation in 'service' jobs (e.g. retail), where there's a great enough excess of would-be employees even without H1Bs to force wages down into the minimum-wage part-time range. The reduction in incomes tends to have a ripple effect up through the ranks, so companies like Facebook couldd be able to slash their payroll/benefits costs down to a tiny fraction of what they are now. The only people fucked over would

His plan is essentially to produce enough low-quality** "code monkey"programmers to mirror the situation in 'service' jobs (e.g. retail)

Come on. We ALL (and that includes Zuckerburg) know what a stupid plan that would be. Masses of simple coders produce only a tangled mess that would never work.

The thing is everyone needs GOOD coders, people who are really good at it are hard to come by. So the plan is to get a million or so people to try coding who would not otherwise, and a small percentage find they l

needed a tech from a Canadian company to go to Detroit to fix a system

That's your first reason? You want "open borders" because you were inconvenienced?

a friend had her undocumented husband who lived & worked 20 years in the US and had teenage kids deported without warning after a misdemeanor traffic infraction

Good heavens, they got caught violating laws that they knew perfectly well existed, even before they came here. They also received a "punishment" that was no more than ending the violation that they were getting away with or 20 years. Is there no justice?

A Danish family renting a house I own got thrown out of the country because of an H1B mixup, now I am out a few months of rent.

You poor dear - an economic loss to you (that was far less than the economic loss of an American losing a job due to the H-1B program).

1 and 3 I am with you on but 2, I cant agree. Plain and simple for number 2 the man broke the law by living here illegally for 20 years, he knew the risks, and he got burned. I dont feel sorry for him one bit