Anything dealing with this cycle of stories can be discussed here: Andra and Boromir as a couple, the Denethor/Imrahil/Andrahar rivalry, the politics of Gondor in the last days of the Third Age.

Comment: I don't like Denethor, but I think what PJ did to him in the movie was an abomination.

I agree. There was an undercurrent of violence and barbarism that was completely at odds with the character Tolkien described. One of my most disliked scenes in the trilogy is Denethor's rather obscene consumption of his meal -- it conveyed all the wrong things about him. PJ made him overtly menacing and rather stupid, and I highly doubt he was either of those.

In Hethverse, I think he's always been envious about Imrahil's easy rapport with Faramir and Boromir, he is aware that the three of them all conspire together to get around his authority from time to time and he hates that.

Yes, I think that really fits with the overall problems that Denethor and his sons faced. Between the two of them Denethor and Imrahil probably in some ways made things worse for Faramir, because if Denethor hadn't (correctly) perceived that Imrahil, albeit somewhat innocently, enjoyed making mischief at his expense with Faramir as a willing ally, Denethor might not have taken *such* a sour view of Faramir. But of course, Denethor set Imrahil's back up with his dislike of Faramir, moving Imrahil to ally himself with Faramir, against Denethor. Neither man seems to have had possessed the insight to see what was really driving the other vis a vis Faramir, perhaps because they were such different people.

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