For there were no birds. Only sparrows and starlings. And seagulls, of course.
«I like the pictures.»
«Ah, well.» John rustled his newspaper uneasily. «Only birds I ever fancy are in here.» And he showed a picture of a woman with big breasts, smouldering on page three.
As soon as he had done it he was cursing himself. He saw Richard flinch and look away. He was at that awkward stage of early puberty: wincing, hypersensitive, fastidious. It was the last thing he should have said. Crude. Unnecessary. Not even true. What he wanted was to meet the boy on common ground: to share jokes and interests, to introduce him to the world of work, pub, football. But he couldn’t do it. Of course the boy was too young, but that was the least of it. His feet were set on a different path.

II)Translate into French:READY TO CORRECT MERCI
For there were no birds. Only sparrows and starlings. And seagulls, of course.
«I like the pictures.»
«Ah, well.» John rustled his newspaper uneasily. «Only birds I ever fancy are in here.» And he showed a picture of a woman with big breasts, smouldering on page three.
As soon as he had done it he was cursing himself. He saw Richard flinch and look away. He was at that awkward stage of early puberty: wincing, hypersensitive, fastidious. It was the last thing he should have said. Crude. Unnecessary. Not even true. What he wanted was to meet the boy on common ground: to share jokes and interests, to introduce him to the world of work, pub, football. But he couldn’t do it. Of course the boy was too young, but that was the least of it. His feet were set on a different path.
Pat BARKER, Union Street.

Réponse : Ex 148/ did you say easy? de taiji43, postée le 19-01-2019 à 19:06:05 (S | E)Hello Here4U
I SET OFF ON THIS TRY (with nets : with dictionary in one hand) (à coups de dictionnaire) READY TO BE CORRECTED

1. On t’a mis dans une position où tu n’aurais jamais dû te trouver !
You were put in a position/situation in which you should never have found yourself

2. Plus maman a d’invités à sa table, plus elle est heureuse et plus le menu sera savoureux
The more mom has guests round her table, the happier she is and the more tasty the menu will be

4. Maxwell : En Alsace, les traditions de Noël remontent à la nuit des temps et se muent en un véritable art de vivre où le vin tient une place de choix
In Alsace, the Christmas traditions go back to dawn of time and turn into a true way of life where wine holds a key place

II)Translate into French: READY TO BE CORRECTEDNOT EASY)

For there were no birds. Only sparrows and starlings. And seagulls, of course.
«I like the pictures.»
«Ah, well.» John rustled his newspaper uneasily. «Only birds I ever fancy are in here.» And he showed a picture of a woman with big breasts, smouldering on page three.
As soon as he had done it he was cursing himself. He saw Richard flinch and look away. He was at that awkward stage of early puberty: wincing, hypersensitive, fastidious. It was the last thing he should have said. Crude. Unnecessary. Not even true. What he wanted was to meet the boy on common ground: to share jokes and interests, to introduce him to the world of work, pub, football. But he couldn’t do it. Of course the boy was too young, but that was the least of it. His feet were set on a different path.

III) PLAYING and WORKING WITH WORDS: - (To) INTERFERE – (to) SHOW - a MANNER – an ARROW – ABROAD – GLACIAL – SO AS TO – UNLESS - + un futur de volontéREADY TO BE CORRECTED
The public’s MANNER to his recital was GLACIAL he felt as an ARROW in full heart and his helplessness SHOWED on his face because: this fiasco will undoubtedly INTERFERE his ABROAD concerts but SO AS TO persevere in this career , he WILL WORK more, UNLESS the fate persists against him( taiji 51)

II)Translate into French:
For there were no birds. Only sparrows and starlings. And seagulls, of course.
«I like the pictures.»
«Ah, well.» John rustled his newspaper uneasily. «Only birds I ever fancy are in here.» And he showed a picture of a woman with big breasts, smouldering on page three.
As soon as he had done it he was cursing himself. He saw Richard flinch and look away. He was at that awkward stage of early puberty: wincing, hypersensitive, fastidious. It was the last thing he should have said. Crude. Unnecessary. Not even true. What he wanted was to meet the boy on common ground:to share jokes and interests, to introduce him to the world of work, pub, football. But he couldn’t do it. Of course the boy was too young, but that was the least of it. His feet were set on a different path.
Pat BARKER, Union Street.

4. Maxwell : En Alsace, les traditions de Noël remontent à la nuit des temps et se muent en un véritable art de vivre où le vin tient une place de choix.
In Alsace, Christmas traditions go back to the dawn of time and have become a real art of living where wine has a special place.

II)Translate into French:
For there were no birds. Only sparrows and starlings. And seagulls, of course.
«I like the pictures.»
«Ah, well.» John rustled his newspaper uneasily. «Only birds I ever fancy are in here.» And he showed a picture of a woman with big breasts, smoldering on page three.
As soon as he had done it he was cursing himself. He saw Richard flinch and look away. He was at that awkward stage of early puberty: Il était à ce stade maladroit du début de la puberté : grimaçant, hypersensible, fastidieux.... It was the last thing he should have said. Crude. Unnecessary. Not even true. What he wanted was to meet the boy on common ground: to share jokes and interests, to introduce him to the world of work, pub, football. But he couldn’t do it. Of course the boy was too young, but that was the least of it. His feet were set on a different path.
Pat BARKER, Union Street.

Your far-fetched explanations that defy the laws of gravity haven't convinced me in the least. How do you explain that lit candles put on a birthday cake were found 2 meters above the ground? You have certainly not understood everything of what these witnesses had told you. "

4. Maxwell : En Alsace, les traditions de Noël remontent à la nuit des temps et se muent en un véritable art de vivre où le vin tient une place de choix.
Merci Maxwell ? .
In Alsace, Christmas traditions ,which go back to the beginning of time, have become a true art of living where wine holds a great place

II)Translate into French:
For there were no birds. Only sparrows and starlings. And seagulls, of course.
«I like the pictures.»
«Ah, well.» John rustled his newspaper uneasily. «Only birds I ever fancy are in here.» And he showed a picture of a woman with big breasts, smouldering on page three.
As soon as he had done it he was cursing himself. He saw Richard flinch and look away. He was at that awkward stage of early puberty: wincing, hypersensitive, fastidious. It was the last thing he should have said. Crude. Unnecessary. Not even true. What he wanted was to meet the boy on common ground: to share jokes and interests, to introduce him to the world of work, pub, football. But he couldn't do it. Of course the boy was too young, but that was the least of it. His feet were set on a different path.

III) PLAYING and WORKING WITH WORDS:
- (To) INTERFERE ? (to) SHOW - a MANNER ? an ARROW ? ABROAD ? GLACIAL ? SO AS TO ? UNLESS - un futur de volonté

UNLESS I am forbidden ,I WILL absolutely go ABROAD , especially in Lapland , SO AS TO study and SHOW me the habits and MANNERS of the inhabitants, how they live in GLACIAL areas , how they use bows and ARROWS for fishing , and how their way of live INTERFERE with our modern stylelife .... 49 WORDS

I)Translate into English:
1. On t’a mis dans une position où tu n’aurais jamais dû te trouver !
You have been put in a position where you should never have found yourself!
2. Plus maman a d’invités à sa table, plus elle est heureuse et plus le menu sera savoureux …
The more guests mom has at her table, the happier she is and the tastier the menu will be.
3. Maxwell : « Tes explications farfelues qui défient les lois de la gravité ne me convainquent pas le moins du monde. Comment veux-tu que des bougies allumées sur un gâteau d'anniversaire puissent, lors d’une chute, se retrouver à 2 mètres du sol ? Tu n'as pas dû tout comprendre de ce que ces témoins t'ont relaté. »
Your odd explanations that defy the laws of gravity don’t convince me at all.
How do you think it would be possible lit candles, on a birthday cake, could be found two meters above the ground following a fall?
You haven’t understood anything about what these witnesses told you.
4. Maxwell : En Alsace, les traditions de Noël remontent à la nuit des temps et se muent en un véritable art de vivre où le vin tient une place de choix.
In Alsace, Christmas traditions date back to the night of time and have become in a true way of life where wine keeps a very special place.

II)Translate into French:
For there were no birds. Only sparrows and starlings. And seagulls, of course.
«I like the pictures.»
«Ah, well.» John rustled his newspaper uneasily. «Only birds I ever fancy are in here.» And he showed a picture of a woman with big breasts, smouldering on page three.
As soon as he had done it he was cursing himself. He saw Richard flinch and look away. He was at that awkward stage of early puberty: wincing, hypersensitive, fastidious. It was the last thing he should have said. Crude. Unnecessary. Not even true. What he wanted was to meet the boy on common ground: to share jokes and interests, to introduce him to the world of work, pub, football. But he couldn’t do it. Of course the boy was too young, but that was the least of it. His feet were set on a different path.
Pat BARKER, Union Street.

UNLESS you are in your capacity as a public official and have a knack for negotiation, you WILL not INTERFERE in a brawl, even SHOWING off a conciliating MANNER, because it could be like to shooting an ARROW in a nest of hornets , SO AS TO receive, in the best case, a GLACIAL welcome, as if you were a foreigner coming from ABROAD.
Thanking you very much, I remain, dear friend, giving you back the residual force and wishing you a pleasant evening..

So long.
Joe39

-------------------Modifié par joe39 le 29-01-2019 18:04

Réponse : Ex 148/ did you say easy? de maxwell, postée le 26-01-2019 à 10:32:16 (S | E)FINISHED
Hello Hello Here4U
Thanks a lot! This excerpt from Pat Barker was very funny to translate (I'm sorry to say so... Perhaps every man would think the same
But playing with words was very tricky this time: I had a lot of difficulty to insert the word "ABROAD" and I'm not totally satisfied with what I've found...

I)Translate into English:
1. On t'a mis dans une position où tu n'aurais jamais dû te trouver !
You've been put in a position where you should never have been!

2. Plus maman a d'invités à sa table, plus elle est heureuse et plus le menu sera savoureux ...
The more mummy has guests at her table, the happier she is and the tastier the menu will be...

4. En Alsace, les traditions de Noël remontent à la nuit des temps et se muent en un véritable art de vivre où le vin tient une place de choix.
In Alsace, the origins of Christmas traditions are lost in the mists of time and these traditions turn into a real lifestyle where wine holds a prominent place.

II)Translate into French:
For there were no birds. Only sparrows and starlings. And seagulls, of course.
«I like the pictures.»
«Ah, well.» John rustled his newspaper uneasily. «Only birds I ever fancy are in here.»
And he showed a picture of a woman with big breasts, smouldering on page three. As soon as he had done it he was cursing himself. He saw Richard flinch and look away. He was at that awkward stage of early puberty: wincing, hypersensitive, fastidious. It was the last thing he should have said. Crude. Unnecessary. Not even true. What he wanted was to meet the boy on common ground: to share jokes and interests, to introduce him to the world of work, pub, football. But he couldn't do it. Of course the boy was too young, but that was the least of it. His feet were set on a different path.
Pat BARKER, Union Street.

I – Into ENGLISH /
- You’ve been put in a position in which you should never have found yourself
- The more guests mummy gets at her table the happier she is and the tastier the meal will be
- Your wacky explanations, flouting the laws of gravity, don’t convince me at all. How do you explain that lit candles on a birthday cake can, by their falling, be found 2 meters above the ground ? You may have not got what the witnesses told you
- In Alsace the Christmas traditions go back to the dawn of time (as old as the hills) and are turned into a real art of living in which wine features high (has pride of place)

II - In French :
For there were no birds. Only sparrows and starlings. And seagulls of course. “I like the picture” “Ah ! Well. John rustled his newspaper uneasily. “Only birds I ever fancy in here “! And he showed a picture of a woman with big breasts smouldering on page 3. As soon as he had done it he was cursing himself. He saw Richard flinch and look way. He was at that awkward stage of early puberty : winching, hypersensitive, fastidious. It was the last thing he should have said. Crude. Unnecessary. Not even true. What he wanted was to meet the boy of common ground : to share jokes and interests, to introduce him to the world of work, pub, football. But he couldn’t do it. Of course the boy was too young but that was the least of it. His feet were set on a different path.

4. Maxwell : En Alsace, les traditions de Noël remontent à la nuit des temps et se muent en un véritable art de vivre où le vin tient une place de choix.
In Alsace, Christmas traditions date back to time immemorial and have been developing into a genuine ‘art of living’ where wine holds a place of choice.

II)Translate into French:

For there were no birds. Only sparrows and starlings. And seagulls, of course.
«I like the pictures.»
«Ah, well.» John rustled his newspaper uneasily. «Only birds I ever fancy are in here.» And he showed a picture of a woman with big breasts, smouldering on page three.
As soon as he had done it he was cursing himself. He saw Richard flinch and look away. He was at that awkward stage of early puberty: wincing, hypersensitive, fastidious. It was the last thing he should have said. Crude. Unnecessary. Not even true. What he wanted was to meet the boy on common ground: to share jokes and interests, to introduce him to the world of work, pub, football. But he couldn’t do it. Of course the boy was too young, but that was the least of it. His feet were set on a different path.
Pat BARKER, Union Street.

Réponse : Ex 148/ did you say easy? de chocolatcitron, postée le 27-01-2019 à 03:44:36 (S | E)Ex 148/ did you say easy? de Here4u posté le 15-01-2019 Mardi 29 janvier IN PROGRESS ONLY FOR THE THIRD EXERCISE, BUT FINISHED FOR THE FIRST AND THE SECOND EXERCISES!.

Hello my Dear Here4u and Maxwell ! Many thanks to you!
Hi Everybody!

Here is my work:
I)Translate into English: FINISHED.
1. On t’a mis dans une position où tu n’aurais jamais dû te trouver !
You have been placed in a position where you would have never found yourself !

2. Plus maman a d’invités à sa table, plus elle est heureuse et plus le menu sera savoureux …
The more mummy has guests on her table, the happier she is and the more delicious the menu will be.

4. Maxwell : En Alsace, les traditions de Noël remontent à la nuit des temps et se muent en un véritable art de vivre où le vin tient une place de choix.
In Alsace, Christmas ' traditions date back to since the dawn of time and progress to a really way of live where wine holds a prominent place.
Merci Maxwell …

II)Translate into French: FINISHED.
For there were no birds. Only sparrows and starlings. And seagulls, of course.
«I like the pictures.»
«Ah, well.» John rustled his newspaper uneasily. «Only birds I ever fancy are in here.» And he showed a picture of a woman with big breasts, smouldering on page three.
As soon as he had done it he was cursing himself. He saw Richard flinch and look away. He was at that awkward stage of early puberty: wincing, hypersensitive, fastidious. It was the last thing he should have said. Crude. Unnecessary. Not even true. What he wanted was to meet the boy on common ground: to share jokes and interests, to introduce him to the world of work, pub, football. But he couldn’t do it. Of course the boy was too young, but that was the least of it. His feet were set on a different path.
Pat BARKER, Union Street.

I had told you... The exercise was difficult; yet, you did quite well as usual... Congratulations for your very good work! The translation into French was particularly difficult. In this correction, I made choices that you don't have to share... As usual, I've given you different ways of saying what was in the text.
Souvenez-vous ... Le secret de la traduction tient en deux mots : Fidélité (au texte, à ce qui est dit ...)et Elégance (de l'expression ... avec respect des niveaux de langue). Lorsqu'il faut choisir, je privilégie toujours la fidélité au sens du texte. Allons-y !

I)Translate into English:

1. On t’a mis dans une position où tu n’aurais jamais dû te trouver ! You were put in a position you should never have been in.

4. Maxwell : En Alsace, les traditions de Noël remontent à la nuit des temps et se muent en un véritable art de vivre où le vin tient une place de choix.
Merci Maxwell … In Alsace, Christmas traditions are lost in the mists of time and turn into a real art of living where wine has a prominent place.

- Les traditions de Noël = en général => sans article
- Remontent à la nuit des temps = date back to/ back to the dawn of time/ are as old as the hills / to time immemorial / to the mists of time/
- Une place de choix = pride of place/ place of pride/ prominent place/

II)Translate into French:

For there were no birds. Only sparrows and starlings. And seagulls, of course.
«I like the pictures.»
«Ah, well.» John rustled his newspaper uneasily. «Only birds (1)I ever fancy are in here.» And he showed a picture of a woman with big breasts(2), smouldering on page three.
As soon as he had done it he was cursing himself. He saw Richard flinch and look away. He was at that awkward stage of early puberty : wincing, hypersensitive, fastidious. It was the last thing he should have said. Crude. Unnecessary. Not even true. What he wanted was to meet the boys on common ground: to share jokes and interests, to introduce him to the world of work, pub, football. But he couldn’t do it. Of course the boy was too young, but that was the least of it. His feet were set on a different path.

III) PLAYING and WORKING WITH WORDS : - (To) INTERFERE – (to) SHOW - a MANNER – an ARROW – ABROAD – GLACIAL – SO AS TO – UNLESS - + un futur de volonté
Of course, I had given you THE FORCE... and you have given me your very BEST!
Go for it !

- The public’s MANNER at his recital was GLACIAL he felt like an ARROW in HIS heart and his helplessness SHOWED on his face because: this fiasco will undoubtedly INTERFERE with his concerts ABROAD; SO AS TO persevere in this career, he WILL WORK more, UNLESS fate persists against him. (51)

- How can you SHOW such a GLACIAL welcome to people from ABROAD and INTERFERE in my personal life; I received your scornful glance like an ARROW in my heart; I can't bear your MANNER, SO AS never TO live this again, I have decided to leave, UNLESS YOU change! (50)

- UNLESS I am forbidden, I WILL absolutely go ABROAD, especially in Lapland, SO AS TO study and SHOW you the habits and MANNERS of the inhabitants: how they live in GLACIAL areas, how they use bows and ARROWS to fish, and how their way of life INTERFEREs with our modern lifestyle... (49)

- UNLESS you are in your capacity as a public official and have a knack for negotiation, you WILL not INTERFERE in a brawl, even SHOWING off a conciliating MANNER, because it could be like shooting an ARROW in a nest of hornets SO AS TO receive, in the best case, a GLACIAL welcome as if you were a stranger ABROAD.

- UNLESS you do it in an appropriate MANNER, you can't INTERFERE with your son's life, especially if you're not as straight as an ARROW yourself, otherwise he WILL not listen to you, will give you a GLACIAL stare, and will go ABROAD soon SO AS TO prove his worth and SHOW you who's deciding for himself. (60)