The other simple fact of life is, that the UK does not have it's warships built anywhere else, so if Scotland ceases to be part of the UK, then they have self-excluded from this venture.

The real sad bit is we end up with any old shite that BAE pump out, we really need new govt approved shipbuilders.

Brilliant opportunity awaits the like likes of the Tyne and Birkenhead. Unfortunately though, the build of submarines is sewn up by BAE in Barrow. We submariners may not be happy but BAE shareholders are.