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Comment by Darkroot

Algalon the Watcher is the 'hard-mode' boss in Ulduar - this quest appears to be the followup from doing all the qeusts to do the other Watcher Bosses (Thorium, Freya, etc) with their hard modes, and allows you to fight Algalon 10-man version.

Comment by oolon

It isn't hard mode only if it only has one mode.

Comment by vrigorgana

It hard because it has higher gear reqs and possibly a specific raid setup. Also, you might not be able to fight him without doing the hard modes of the other bosses first.

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Comment by fahsky

In order to receive the quest to get the signals, you need the quest item off hard mode Iron Council, which is killing Steelbreaker last. Only one person can loot that item, so only one person per raid lockout can get this key.

Comment by boarsfearme

please, can someone tell me where to pick up this quest? i'm mystified.

Comment by Nethris

Information from Algalon: He will DESPAWN after ONE HOUR of attempts, and will be gone for the rest of the WEEK. Blue post confirmation below.

Comment by Tawara

1) that what you called the right hand of Sargeras was only an corrupted Eredar (few of them which didn't wanted to be corrupted fled and renamed themselves Dranei) and i don't think that the empowerment of Sargeras lifted them to the Powerlevel of a Titan..

2) It was only an Avatar which was on the way to come to Azeroth and because of this, i think that Kil would be a bigger Problem to fight if we were in his Plane, perhaps we will because they didn't take him down..they only pushed him back to the Nether!

3) The Pantheon is existing out of 6 Titans Aman'Thul, Highfather of the Pantheon gave Power to Nozdormus, Eonar, Patron of All Life gave a Portion of her Power to Alexstrasza, Norgannon, Lore-Keeper and Master-Magician gave a Portion of his Power to Malygos, Golganneth, The Thunderer Creator of Skies and Seas but gave noone Power, Khaz'goroth, Shaper and Forger of the World gave Power a Portion of his to Neltharion aka Deathwing and at last Sargeras who was replaced by Aggramar after his Corruption. So Basically the Titans are holding Powers like the Dragonflights only way more Powerful than the Dragons.

Yeah and the Paladins and Naarus could push Kil back because the Light is a Might which is designed against the Burning Legion -> Demons but the Titans are something wholy different nobody knows if it were not the Titans which created the Naaru. Perhaps the Titans are also beings of the Light and cannot be damaged by it? We don't know but will know when they come to look why Algalon is sending! And he is sending at the moment a lot^^

Comment by danroe

Do you think he has chicken?

Comment by Talvanor

Fiore, the Titans don't think like living beings do. Look at how they handled the Burning Legion. It should have been obvious to any mortal with common sense that a single entity, no matter how powerful, could not eradicate an endless army of demons. To the Titans, though, who thought with pure logic, a single entity many times more powerful than any demon at the time should have been able to slay every demon in existance.

The Titans would send a warrior first to destroy any resistance, then when that warrior was defeated, they would send a stronger warrior, who would in turn be defeated. Then maybe the entire Pantheon would come, but if they did someone would realise that the one power that could destroy the Pantheon with just a bit of help would have to be released- The Old Gods. The real old gods, not the lesser Old Gods/Forgotten Ones that C'thun and Yogg-Saron appear to be. The Three under the Maelstrom. The Three who nearly held off the whole Pantheon.

And I think there are denizens of Azeroth who have the ability to unlock that prison...

Oh, you'd also have to deal with the remains of the Legion, lead by Sargeras himself with Kil'jaeden, who was only banished at the Sunwell, not destroyed, at his right hand. The Legion's full might has only had one opportunity to assault Azeroth, and that was during the War of the Ancients. There has been no magical nexus strong enough to allow them through since... And should the regathered ley lines around Coldarra grow numerous enough, the magical energies centered there could provide them another one. That's a little irrevalent, though, considering that the Legion would quite possibly swarm the Titans as they began to enter Azeroth.

And the Naaru are far, far more powerful than we have been lead to believe, I think. They are avatars of the Light itself, and no power is stronger than the Light when its fury is truly released. Not even the Old Gods. Certainly not the Legion, and probably not the Titans. It also helps there's a bunch of Naaru... Seven at last count, including M'uru, and I'm sure there are more that have yet to show their faces. Or crystal windchimes, rather.

If the Titans all came to Azeroth, no, we wouldn't all die. There would be huge numbers of deaths, and a war to end all wars, but depending on whether or not the uncorrupted Dragonflights (that includes the Blue; Malygos is mad, not corrupt) could band together, along with the Naaru.

Also, you're forgetting Elune. I'm willing to bet Azeroth's personal goddess would take a hand to defend her world, as would its children, the demigods.

There are just so many forces present on Azeroth, some for the Light, some for the Dark, all of them against either the Titans or invaders, that even creatures as powerful as the Pantheon and the lesser Titans are wouldn't last long at all.

Comment by riperslo

Talvanor...as i understood Lore it was old gods and 4elemental rules who were first in azeroth, titans were traveling from planet to plante just to shape it. True thay made encounter with locals allready but i quess thay were far supperior. Also abouth burning legion, you have to look that beside Kj being banished Sargeras also still lives in soul form but you have to think he was once an titan aswell.Also i read that there are speculations that Elune could be Lady Azshara, which is redicules at one point but thrue history important documents can be lost and history of night elves couse be rewritten in favor of Lady Azshara as goddes.Old gods are coming back to surfice after imprisonment by titens deep in Azeroth like C'thun and Yoog-Saron, eaven Ragnaros who was freed by Iron dworfs in time when 3 dworf nations were in one of biggest wars.Burning legion tho is nothing more then Eredar Nathrezim and warriors like infernos and orcs. But it was cleary shown in Burning Crusade that thair power is not that strong.But there are indeed some powers which should be or will be explored like you said : Naaru 4 example. You still have to think of full Emerald dream which is in making and Into Maelstrom. Probly you'll saw rest of elemental gods, nagas and thair queen Azshara and aswell leader of black dragonflight Deathwing. There could also be opening of special relm / zone / expension into Twisting Nether.

But point of why titans are mentioned that much is because thay are mostly creators of what you see in wow: races / zones/ environment ,...

Comment by Talvanor

The Old Three ruled. They were barely defeated by the Twelve of the Pantheon, and imprisoned underneath the Well of Eternity. They remain there to this day. Under them were other 'old god'-like creatures, which is what I assume Yogg-Saron and C'thun are (as neither of the was imprisoned under the Well; WotA stated that the Well was the focal point for the Old Three's prison and that they were truly imprisoned outside of Time or something like that). Under those were the Elemental Lords. Under them were the elementals, who ruled Azeroth and the primitive life-forms that existed there prior to the Shaping.

After the defeat of the Old Gods at the hands of the Titans, the Titans took the primitive life of Azeroth and shaped the world itself. In this making, the Shaping, they created six races, only three of which appear in their original form in this day- The Dragonflights, the Kaldorei, the Earthen, the Mechanognomes, the Vry'kul, and the primitive forms of the Tauren and the Furbolg. These races have since evolved, and in the case of the Mechanognomes some of them became inflicted by the Curse of Flesh (the other races were never mechanical, although the Earthen were literally made out of rock).

The Legion is an assembly of most of the chaotic races of the Nether. Formed when Sargeras fell to the corruption of the Nathrezim, the Legion consists of imps, succubi, infernals, Pit Lords, Felguards, Felhounds, Eredar, and Nathrezim, primarily. Other, rarer demonic races are also present, as are small (comparatively) numbers of undead. The Legion is endless, as demonstrated when Broxigar went through the portal at the Well into the Legion's staging area (presumably someplace on Argus). The Legion also consisted of Fel Orcs, at one time. However, very few Fel Orcs remain under control of the Legion. They have been replaced by a few thousand Blood/Fel Elves under Kael'thas Sunstrider.

The Naaru are a nearly unknown race. Everything about them is unknown past their general alignment, their basic life cycle, and the fact they are literally made out of Holy energy and some sort of crystal. Presence or lack of gender, necessities for life, reproduction, number in existance, government, factions... All unknowns. However, A'dal was at one point in time supposed to be the most powerful being in existance. Sargeras and the Titans are presumably more powerful, but A'dal is almost certainly far more powerful than even the Lich King and most likely a match for Eredar Overlords such as Kil'jaeden and Archimonde.

Yes, the Titans were a superior power to anything they encountered. They came across worlds, shaped them, and moved on. While they did place defense systems, they seem to have been rather careless in doing so. Not only that, but beings far superior in power to said defense systems have made themselves known on Azeroth- Namely, the Naaru and the Legion. Even mortals have shown themselves to outmatch direct servants of the Titans (Algalon). If this is the case, Titans are not nearly as superior as many people think.

Yes, they did create the world of Azeroth. It is unknown if (but assumed they did) shape Draenor. However, that doesn't mean they're be-all end-all gods... Not compared to the other forces of the Twisting Nether and the Great Dark Beyond.

Also, Elune is certainly not Lady Azshara. According to the WoWRPG books, Elune is the patron goddess of Azeroth and a totally seperate force from anything else in existance on Azeroth. Also, Elune opposed Azshara during the War of Eternity- Elune's light protected Tyrande when Azshara ordered Tyrande to be tortured. The same happened when Kil'jaeden's lieutenants tried to question her. The theory that Azshara and Elune are one and the same is, as you put it, ridiculous.

(Sorry for the textwall.)

Comment by mixter

a bit of bad info in that story

belfs are native to azeroth (NOWHERE else), they are high elves that were addicted to the power of the sunwell and became blood elves when arthas corrupted it. so fel elves never existed

if the titans came to azeroth, they would destroy us in a second accourding to lore and algalons quote:"entire worlds created(or destroyed?)in the time it takes your mortal hearts to beat once"

the titans never created azeroth, they merely imprisoned the 5 old gods and then made life

and about Elune...she isnt "azeroths personal godess" shes probably a demigod like cenarius

A'dal is was never at any point in time the most powerful being in existance,tho he posseses an extreme amount of knowlege about the light

Comment by Talvanor

I'm sorry, but no.Blood Elves are native to Azeroth, aye. They're descended from the Kaldorei, which was one of the Primal races created by the Titans.

if the titans came to azeroth, they would destroy us in a second accourding to lore and algalons quote:"entire worlds created(or destroyed?)in the time it takes your mortal hearts to beat once"

Algalon said that, aye. He also said no mortal could defeat him, but yet, look what happens to him...

And no, the Titans did not create Azeroth. I don't think I ever said that. They Shaped it, which is not the same as creating it.(Also there are only three major Old Gods.) Life existed prior to the coming of the Titans; it was enslaved by the Elementals and the servants of the Old Gods. It was also used by the Titans to shape the Primal Races.

and about Elune...she isnt "azeroths personal godess" shes probably a demigod like cenarius

Yes, Elune is Azeroth's goddess. She is not a demigod; it is clearly stated she is the moon goddess and the protector of Azeroth.

A'dal is was never at any point in time the most powerful being in existance,tho he posseses an extreme amount of knowlege about the light

A'dal was theorized to be the most powerful creature alive when Burning Crusade was canon, before all the Titan lore was reintroduced/rewritten. Evidence of this exists in that he hits far harder than any other ingame creature and also seems to be the direct avatar of the Light, which is possibly the most powerful force in existance.

Comment by Maegord

(walks into comments and looks around)Oh god lore fight!(runs away)

Comment by Responsible

The question, i think, isn't "could Azeroth overcome the Pantheon?", but "should we?".

The Pantheon is clearly a force of good in the universe. Look at the beautiful worlds they shape, the terrible Old Gods they oppose, the way they stop the progress of factions like the Burning Legion. Now they are about to call the experiment of Azeroth to a halt. They have good reason. If forces are loose that can actually threaten them, they must be stopped before they grow too strong. Who wants the Old Gods to replace the Pantheon as rulers of the universe?

This is sad news for the denziens of Azeroth, of course. But should our own self interest lead us to ally with forces of evil? Can we even claim to fight for the Light if we do? What would happen to the universe without anyone to shape and control it?

I say that if the Pantheon decides that Azeroth is too dangerous, we grit our teeth and prepare to be re-originated. For the greater good of the Universe, and for the Light.

Comment by Thaag

After the defeat of the Old Gods at the hands of the Titans, the Titans took the primitive life of Azeroth and shaped the world itself. In this making, the Shaping, they created six races, only three of which appear in their original form in this day- The Dragonflights, the Kaldorei, the Earthen, the Mechanognomes, the Vry'kul, and the primitive forms of the Tauren and the Furbolg. These races have since evolved, and in the case of the Mechanognomes some of them became inflicted by the Curse of Flesh (the other races were never mechanical, although the Earthen were literally made out of rock).

Talvanor, please cite the source of this. I find quite a few discrepancies between this and established lore.

First of all, according to in-game lore, the Kal'dorei were not created in full form by the Titans. They were mutated by the original Well, from a species which is not specified but strongly inferred to be a type of troll, and trolls were one of the native peoples of Azeroth.

Secondly, the Tribunal specifically states that the Earthen were mutated into fleshy Dwarves (along with vrykul, who were originally composed of iron, and Gnomes) by the Curse of Flesh. The Dragonflights were formed from proto-drakes which were native, if I'm not mistaken. I have never heard of the Titans having formed the Tauren or Furbolgs, which were always fleshy beings. The Titans didn't even form the Dragonflights until after the Curse; they always seemed to prefer non-organic creations due to the fuzzy (pun intended?) logic of flesh.

Comment by thefelking

I think you're all forgetting that if the Titans come back and blow up Azeroth then Blizzard will lose World of Mealticket, you HONESTLY think that any company is going to willingly hang itself? To hell with Elune and Adal, I'm protected by the greed of a multibillion dollar corporation *runs off laughing into the night*