oukewldave:My fellow males are retarded. My female friends are married and when we go out (with their husbands), their job is to flirt with guys who actually buy us all drinks. They like to harmlessly flirt with other guys and we like free drinks. Works out for everyone, except the idiot guys who actually bought the drinks. Did you actually think these two women with wedding rings on and with three other guys are going to go home with you? lol.

What kind of 'man' allows his woman to flirt with other dudes just so the other dudes buy everyone drinks?That shiat is gay on the one hand, and pussy on the other.Be a Man. Buy your own damn drinks and stop fantasizing about being cuckolded.

Lunaville:Smeggy Smurf: The last time a broad slinked up to me and asked if I'd buy her a drink I told her

People actually do that? I can not imagine asking someone to buy something for me. How do you come up to a perfect stranger and say "Buy me a drink. Buy me a burger." ? That's crazy.

Agreed. Even the times someone's come up and asked to buy me a drink I turn them down. "I've got this; thanks, though"... then they look at me like I'm crazy because I'm looking at them like they're crazy. I don't know you! If I were to accept a drink I might actually have to converse with you...

If I'm out with someone, of course. But I generally get a couple rounds as well.

I'm having a hard time having a problem with this. It's not like rape, he wasn't forced up. He signed those slips, he ran his credit card, he bought that stupid painting. You're drunk, not comatose. Have a little damn sense and maybe don't act like an irresponsible frat boy on Spring Break and you may just wake up with some money left in your account. Lastly, if you're $100 in and don't have your hand down her panties, give the fark up already!

Oh give me a break. There was nothing cunning about it, nor were these men fleeced. They were rich idiots who were more than happy to throw all their money at these women for what was likely no more than a desperate hope for sex. However, now people are finding out so of course they regret it. These guys hate getting caught looking this desperate and retarded.

Ah yes, when a woman is drunk and sleeps with a man, the guy raped her. But when a man is drunk and a woman takes advantage of him, it's the man's fault. Makes total sense.

Your analogy would be accurate if the women were being charged with rape. However, what happened here is not rape. What happened here is that the men got sloppy drunk and then paid exorbitant amounts of money for cheap booze and overpriced fish eggs and bad lap dances, hoping beyond hope that some butt-ugly women would somehow find them attractive enough to sleep with them. Which is pathetic and sad, but is hardly in the same category as a predator getting a victim drunk so he can take sexual advantage of them.

If you are so desperate that you have to spend lots of money so a stripper will f*ck you, then you deserve to be taken to the cleaners and I will not feel sorry for you.

Take away rape and say 'take advantage of' for both, which is absolutely true, and say that again.

OK, but you're talking about two different things in an effort to stir up trouble, which is both unlike and unworthy of you. "Taking advantage of someone" is not the same as raping them, regardless of whether they are a man or a woman. And my comment to both still stands.

If a woman is drunk, and sleeps with a man, because she's so desperate she can't get a man any other way, then he didn't "rape" her; she was stupid and that's her problem. If a man is drunk and spends his life's savings on some whore because he can't get a woman any other way, then he was stupid and that's his problem.

But that is different than if a man DELIBERATELY got his victim drunk so that he could DELIBERATELY rape her (or him) when she couldn't refuse him. Or if the whore DELIBERATELY got the man (or woman) so drunk he couldn't fight back when her pimp came into the room and jackrolled the man and stole his wallet and his car keys.

If YOU can't see any difference in the two (four?) scenarios, then you're trolling hard, or are dumber than I generally give you credit for being.

oukewldave:My fellow males are retarded. My female friends are married and when we go out (with their husbands), their job is to flirt with guys who actually buy us all drinks. They like to harmlessly flirt with other guys and we like free drinks. Works out for everyone, except the idiot guys who actually bought the drinks. Did you actually think these two women with wedding rings on and with three other guys are going to go home with you? lol.

Pribar:Bah, musicians have been doing something similar since the beginning of time too, you play a gig at a bar and some yokel decides instead of tossing a few bucks in the tip case that he/she is going to buy us a round (why I will never know) so we make a deal with the barkeep, he charges the yokel for a top shelf drink and serves us coke/tea/water, at the end of the night barkeep keeps a cut for his bother and gives us the rest to split.

CapeFearCadaver:Lunaville: Smeggy Smurf: The last time a broad slinked up to me and asked if I'd buy her a drink I told her

People actually do that? I can not imagine asking someone to buy something for me. How do you come up to a perfect stranger and say "Buy me a drink. Buy me a burger." ? That's crazy.

Agreed. Even the times someone's come up and asked to buy me a drink I turn them down. "I've got this; thanks, though"... then they look at me like I'm crazy because I'm looking at them like they're crazy. I don't know you! If I were to accept a drink I might actually have to converse with you...

If I'm out with someone, of course. But I generally get a couple rounds as well.

I know, I haven't been to a bar in decades, but I rarely accepted drinks from people I didn't know. Usually, it just seemed wrong. I did try to be nice. I generally would say something like "You don't have to buy me a drink to talk to me." Sometimes the person would sit down. Sometimes the individual got offended. I never understood that. (Hello, I'm trying hard not to use you. Why would you be offended?) But I never asked anyone to buy me a drink and I never witnessed any of my friends asking anyone to buy them a drink. That's just over the top pushy and rude.

Picking up women in bars is best enjoyed as a Zen exercise. Give up desire and enjoy the moment. Buy people drinks, laugh and make merry. Then if you go home alone, as one does most of the time, you still had fun.

Buddy of mine spent 2 grand at a strip club when the girls kept asking him to buy them a bottle of "cristal" one after the other. Poor farker had no idea what it was. End of the night he was overdrawn hardcore and blew a months paycheck and still hadn't gotten laid. They cleaned him out good, didn't even give him a lap dance. He said "I dont even think they drank it, no idea where it went".Poor farker, I doubt they even opened the bottles. Yellow Rose ladies and gentlemen! I was floor manager at a different tittybar for a few months, woulda saved him if I had been there.

This Chinese Tea House scam is actually incredibly common in Poland and surrounding regions. I got caught up in a strip club in Zakopane that didn't feel right. I was with a Polish hosteler that I had just met, and we ended up there. I refused to check my coat, that had my passport, and things got really sketchy. I was approached for drinks and lapdances immediately, and just politely refused saying that I just got there.

The guy I was with immediately was taken with one of the girls where he ended up buying over $500 worth of pink water for her. He didn't know it until the bill came, and BAM we had to jet out of there quick. He got taken for all of his money, I just left looking like a cheap douche.

swahnhennessy:Radioactive Ass: They aren't bad rules when you're just looking to get a little action

They sound like they were written by a bitter schmuck who's had abstinence forced on him throughout his life.

The guy was divorced and taken to the cleaners (twice IIRC, it's been years since I've listened). From that context can you blame him? His point was that if the girl is leading you on for "Free drinks and stuff" and not putting out nor intending to do so, but all you were looking for was to get laid then these are the things that you have to keep in mind as a guy. Worded crassly? Yes. Wrong? Not at all.

I read the article and I don't think it's clear on what illegal thing has happened here. A grown man should know how much he can drink before he becomes blacked out and spends over 40k. It's not as if they drugged the guy. Is it now illegal to lead someone on? I don't get it.

Lunaville:Smeggy Smurf: Lunaville: Smeggy Smurf: The last time a broad slinked up to me and asked if I'd buy her a drink I told her

People actually do that? I can not imagine asking someone to buy something for me. How do you come up to a perfect stranger and say "Buy me a drink. Buy me a burger." ? That's crazy.

Yes they do. She must have thought her big titties would be enough to cloud my mind. I was in the middle of my divorce and could have used a good slut but alas, she only wanted my money.

I think you made a wise decision. I'm pretty sure you're better off not getting involved with a person that will just walk up to a stranger and say "Buy me stuff."

friend of mine just dumped the girl he was dating. She is a model, and 20 years his junior. What did he see in her? a fine slip of grace in his bed every night, and on his arm during the day. Nothing serious, as far as he was concerned. She saw a fun guy she could relate to. Daddy issues, anyone?

/first hint of Gimme Gimme syndrome and she hit the curb//he's not rich, not poor///didn't get to this point by giving it away.

I've only picked up a couple of women in bars--luckily I didn't pay for their drinks as both of them were serious alcoholics with mental-health issues. IIRC, back in my drinking days, I actually had one or two women buy me drinks, so I'm one of the 0.000001% of guys who are ahead on that issue...

ZombiesYall:I read the article and I don't think it's clear on what illegal thing has happened here. A grown man should know how much he can drink before he becomes blacked out and spends over 40k. It's not as if they drugged the guy. Is it now illegal to lead someone on? I don't get it.