A seven-minute film narrated by NBC anchor Brian Williams for showings at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum when it opens in May has provoked objections that it uses the terms "jihadist" and "Islamist" in describing extremist Muslim doctrine.Such terms, critics say, will lead viewers to equate terrorists with Muslims in general, which of course is grossly out of line....

The only way extremist Islamists will banished from our society is through Muslim activism.

We have yet to see that activism because most law-abiding Muslims are paralyzed by fear due to these murderous fanatics.

Or worse, their activist groups are infiltrated with fanatics - which seems to be the case in the wholesale attempts to silence a former Muslim woman abused in the name of Islam and recently relieved of a promised honorary degree by Brandeis University, due to pressure from Islamic groups.

But in proper context, "jihadist" and "Islamist" — which have been widely used since 9/11 — are useful descriptions of a narrow category of extremists. They do not imply that Muslims in general share the same ideology.

The fact that there are virtually no Muslims actively opposing that ideology proves that Muslims in fact DO share that ideology.

Such terms, critics say, will lead viewers to equate terrorists with Muslims in general, which of course is grossly out of line.

Such terms are not, of course, grossly out of line. Almost all terrorism, worldwide, is committed by Islamic (Muslim) terrorists. The terms are accurate.

What is so unusual is that Brian Williams could utter such terms after so many years at a network which all but excuses Islamic terrorists and rarely, if ever, uses direct, accurate and specific terminology such as juhadist and terrorist. They also do not use the words "illegal aliens" when referring to people who have entered our country illegally.

But in proper context, "jihadist" and "Islamist" — which have been widely used since 9/11 — are useful descriptions of a narrow category of extremists. They do not imply that Muslims in general share the same ideology.

The fact that there are virtually no Muslims actively opposing that ideology proves that Muslims in fact DO share that ideology.

Amen to that, throatwarbler. Not even one of the Muslims' imams publicly opposes the terrorism carried out in the name of their religion. 200+ girls kidnapped by Islamic terrorists in Nigeria, most of them to end up as sex slaves to the Islamic terrorists. Mass murders in Sudan. Market bombings in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And not a word from a single imam, let alone a single Muslim actively opposing such disgusting carnage.

I must pause and consider for a brief moment, however, the fear that I might have if I were a Muslim, in speaking out publicly about the terrorists, since they would probably kill me and my family. The same is true about the black and Mexican terrorist gangs here in the United States, and the lack of public and active opposition to them by their own people, let alone their leaders, including our president.

It takes a lot of courage to stand for what is right and oppose that which is wrong. Courage is being afraid and doing it anyway.

But in proper context, "jihadist" and "Islamist" — which have been widely used since 9/11 — are useful descriptions of a narrow category of extremists. They do not imply that Muslims in general share the same ideology.

The fact that there are virtually no Muslims actively opposing that ideology proves that Muslims in fact DO share that ideology.

Amen to that, throatwarbler. Not even one of the Muslims' imams publicly opposes the terrorism carried out in the name of their religion. 200+ girls kidnapped by Islamic terrorists in Nigeria, most of them to end up as sex slaves to the Islamic terrorists. Mass murders in Sudan. Market bombings in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And not a word from a single imam, let alone a single Muslim actively opposing such disgusting carnage.

I must pause and consider for a brief moment, however, the fear that I might have if I were a Muslim, in speaking out publicly about the terrorists, since they would probably kill me and my family. The same is true about the black and Mexican terrorist gangs here in the United States, and the lack of public and active opposition to them by their own people, let alone their leaders, including our president.

It takes a lot of courage to stand for what is right and oppose that which is wrong. Courage is being afraid and doing it anyway.

I sincerely hope the editorial board will read these comments. Come and enjoy the bigoted, racist, and just plain ignorant comments.

That line in your editorial about equating all Muslims with terrorists... its already a huge problem in this country and this kind of inflammatory crap of a film is not making things any better.

But in proper context, "jihadist" and "Islamist" — which have been widely used since 9/11 — are useful descriptions of a narrow category of extremists. They do not imply that Muslims in general share the same ideology.

The fact that there are virtually no Muslims actively opposing that ideology proves that Muslims in fact DO share that ideology.

Amen to that, throatwarbler. Not even one of the Muslims' imams publicly opposes the terrorism carried out in the name of their religion. 200+ girls kidnapped by Islamic terrorists in Nigeria, most of them to end up as sex slaves to the Islamic terrorists. Mass murders in Sudan. Market bombings in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And not a word from a single imam, let alone a single Muslim actively opposing such disgusting carnage.

I must pause and consider for a brief moment, however, the fear that I might have if I were a Muslim, in speaking out publicly about the terrorists, since they would probably kill me and my family. The same is true about the black and Mexican terrorist gangs here in the United States, and the lack of public and active opposition to them by their own people, let alone their leaders, including our president.

It takes a lot of courage to stand for what is right and oppose that which is wrong. Courage is being afraid and doing it anyway.

I sincerely hope the editorial board will read these comments. Come and enjoy the bigoted, racist, and just plain ignorant comments.

That line in your editorial about equating all Muslims with terrorists... its already a huge problem in this country and this kind of inflammatory crap of a film is not making things any better.

Which line in my post are you referring to, luckless? I have re-read the words that are actually in my post(s) and nowhere in those words do I equate "all Muslims with terrorists." In fact, if you read the words that are in my posts - and only the words that are actually on your computer screen - you will not find that statement today, or any other day in any other post that I have ever written. You will not find it because I do not believe it and, therefore, would never write it.

Stick with the words, concepts, principles, thoughts and ideas which are actually written. Doing so will give you a clearer view of the world.

Now then...show me what line you are referring to. Please.

EDIT BY PHIL: Luckless has had about 5 hours to point out which line he was referring to. Perhaps Luckless is otherwise engaged and will clear up his post in due time. In the meantime, other thumbs downers who presumably agree with Luckless, have graced me with their coveted thumbs downs. I thank you, one and all. And I pray for you. I know what it is like to live a life wherein nothing is allowed to be questioned. I lived like that for far too long, many years ago. And then, one day, it just did not fit. Life is much better this way.

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But in proper context, "jihadist" and "Islamist" — which have been widely used since 9/11 — are useful descriptions of a narrow category of extremists. They do not imply that Muslims in general share the same ideology.

The fact that there are virtually no Muslims actively opposing that ideology proves that Muslims in fact DO share that ideology.

Amen to that, throatwarbler. Not even one of the Muslims' imams publicly opposes the terrorism carried out in the name of their religion. 200+ girls kidnapped by Islamic terrorists in Nigeria, most of them to end up as sex slaves to the Islamic terrorists. Mass murders in Sudan. Market bombings in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And not a word from a single imam, let alone a single Muslim actively opposing such disgusting carnage.

I must pause and consider for a brief moment, however, the fear that I might have if I were a Muslim, in speaking out publicly about the terrorists, since they would probably kill me and my family. The same is true about the black and Mexican terrorist gangs here in the United States, and the lack of public and active opposition to them by their own people, let alone their leaders, including our president.

It takes a lot of courage to stand for what is right and oppose that which is wrong. Courage is being afraid and doing it anyway.

I sincerely hope the editorial board will read these comments. Come and enjoy the bigoted, racist, and just plain ignorant comments.

That line in your editorial about equating all Muslims with terrorists... its already a huge problem in this country and this kind of inflammatory crap of a film is not making things any better.

How do we talk about a problem when we know that members of a certain class are the people who are most likely to commit certain acts. Do we say that it is bigoted to mention that?

It is undoubted true that men commit the vast majority of sexual assaults. Does this mean that parents are justified in not hiring male babysitters? Could parents be sued for gender discrimination?

We also know that men commit the majority of murders with guns. Should the laws about gun ownership be stricter for men?

We also know that in certain areas that the majority of reported muggings are committed by Black males.

We also know that the vast majority of prostitution is committed by women.

How do we deal with this knowledge? Do we ignore it? Do we make believe that it isn't true?

When someone is a self pronounced Muslim, what does it mean about their beliefs about violence? Is it racist to ask the question?

When John F. Kennedy was running for office, his religious status as a Catholic was discussed. He was asked whether his allegiance to the Pope would interferr with his presidency. He discussed the issue openly. If we ever have a Jew running for the presidency, he or she will have to answer the same question about Israel. These are issues which must be reasonably discussed. Calling people names because they raise these issues is wrong.

I recommend that the Statue of Liberty on the East Coast should be supplemented by a Statue of Responsibility on the West Coast. --- Viktor Frankl

But in proper context, "jihadist" and "Islamist" — which have been widely used since 9/11 — are useful descriptions of a narrow category of extremists. They do not imply that Muslims in general share the same ideology.

The fact that there are virtually no Muslims actively opposing that ideology proves that Muslims in fact DO share that ideology.

Amen to that, throatwarbler. Not even one of the Muslims' imams publicly opposes the terrorism carried out in the name of their religion. 200+ girls kidnapped by Islamic terrorists in Nigeria, most of them to end up as sex slaves to the Islamic terrorists. Mass murders in Sudan. Market bombings in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And not a word from a single imam, let alone a single Muslim actively opposing such disgusting carnage.

I must pause and consider for a brief moment, however, the fear that I might have if I were a Muslim, in speaking out publicly about the terrorists, since they would probably kill me and my family. The same is true about the black and Mexican terrorist gangs here in the United States, and the lack of public and active opposition to them by their own people, let alone their leaders, including our president.

It takes a lot of courage to stand for what is right and oppose that which is wrong. Courage is being afraid and doing it anyway.

I sincerely hope the editorial board will read these comments. Come and enjoy the bigoted, racist, and just plain ignorant comments.

That line in your editorial about equating all Muslims with terrorists... its already a huge problem in this country and this kind of inflammatory crap of a film is not making things any better.

How do we talk about a problem when we know that members of a certain class are the people who are most likely to commit certain acts. Do we say that it is bigoted to mention that?

It is undoubted true that men commit the vast majority of sexual assaults. Does this mean that parents are justified in not hiring male babysitters? Could parents be sued for gender discrimination?

We also know that men commit the majority of murders with guns. Should the laws about gun ownership be stricter for men?

We also know that in certain areas that the majority of reported muggings are committed by Black males.

We also know that the vast majority of prostitution is committed by women.

How do we deal with this knowledge? Do we ignore it? Do we make believe that it isn't true?

When someone is a self pronounced Muslim, what does it mean about their beliefs about violence? Is it racist to ask the question?

When John F. Kennedy was running for office, his religious status as a Catholic was discussed. He was asked whether his allegiance to the Pope would interferr with his presidency. He discussed the issue openly. If we ever have a Jew running for the presidency, he or she will have to answer the same question about Israel. These are issues which must be reasonably discussed. Calling people names because they raise these issues is wrong.

One may accurately surmise, from the thumbs downs on your post, Yaakov, that even asking questions is not allowed in certain segments of our society. How sad, eh? I have found/learned long ago that when I am not comfortable with being asked why I believe something, there is a problem on my end of the equation and my thinking is probably incorrect.

But in proper context, "jihadist" and "Islamist" — which have been widely used since 9/11 — are useful descriptions of a narrow category of extremists. They do not imply that Muslims in general share the same ideology.

The fact that there are virtually no Muslims actively opposing that ideology proves that Muslims in fact DO share that ideology.

Amen to that, throatwarbler. Not even one of the Muslims' imams publicly opposes the terrorism carried out in the name of their religion. 200+ girls kidnapped by Islamic terrorists in Nigeria, most of them to end up as sex slaves to the Islamic terrorists. Mass murders in Sudan. Market bombings in Afghanistan and Pakistan. And not a word from a single imam, let alone a single Muslim actively opposing such disgusting carnage.

I must pause and consider for a brief moment, however, the fear that I might have if I were a Muslim, in speaking out publicly about the terrorists, since they would probably kill me and my family. The same is true about the black and Mexican terrorist gangs here in the United States, and the lack of public and active opposition to them by their own people, let alone their leaders, including our president.

It takes a lot of courage to stand for what is right and oppose that which is wrong. Courage is being afraid and doing it anyway.

I sincerely hope the editorial board will read these comments. Come and enjoy the bigoted, racist, and just plain ignorant comments.

That line in your editorial about equating all Muslims with terrorists... its already a huge problem in this country and this kind of inflammatory crap of a film is not making things any better.

...this kind of inflammatory crap of a film is not making things any better.

When did you see the film? I'll leave my other post for now, which responds to your absolutely inaccurate claim that I denigrated all Muslims as being terrorists. You have had about 9 hours now to show me/us where I wrote that.

EDIT BY PHIL: Perhaps luckless is really, really busy and has not had time to answer either of my queries. It has been almost two days now... Or perhaps self-examination prevents him/her from admitting what was, hopefully, an honest mistake. Who knows? I hope luckless' fortune changes and that he/she wins the lottery and finds a loving mate and that they have wonderful children who take care of them when they get old and decrepit.