I have no problem with the .40 and it is a proven caliber by any measure one cares to apply to it. I do not own the caliber, never have and would probably never buy one other than to resell at some point in the future. So, I have said nothing in this thread to demean or discredit it and will not. But, I do find it laughable when someone uses outlandish phrases to support their position.

Your insistence on continuing to exaggerate a simple unsupported statement that I have fully admitted was unsupported and your clear unwillingness to admit you were needlessly uncivil means I'm done with you. I don't feed trolls.