Re: Man given 7 year sentence for guns he legally owned. Bizarre story.

I sent this message to Chris Christie today.

Hi,
My name is $$$$$$$ &&&&&&. I live in @@@@ %%%% Beach Florida. I grew up in and lived in New Jersey for almost 25 years. The one thing I always resented about new Jersey was it's horribly out of date liberal gun laws which grossly do not represent modern understandings of firearms safety nor current national trends in gun owner-ship in relation to crime.

I was recently mugged in Newark, New Jersey when I came up for my mother's funeral. She died in a terrible car accident. My brother and I were going to a club I used to go to on a regular basis when I lived up in New Jersey. The club was a small gothic venue known as QXT. I had fond memories of going there when I was in high school and in my early 20's.My brother had just turned 18 and likes allot of the same music I do so we decided that after the funeral we would go there to get our minds off things and listen to some good music and maybe meet some cool people.

All of that went very well. I am happy to say. We took a bus down and from penn station to mulberry we took a cab. On the way back to my my mother's apartment in montclair was another story. My brother and I took a cab from the club to Bloomfield Avenue about a block or so up from the the branch brook company. That area used to be a relatively safe italian neighborhood. I figured we would walk from that point back up Bloomfield Avenue. That did not happen. We were accosted by two african Americans who threatened to shoot us if we did not give him the money we had on him. He had his hand in his pocket the whole time as if he was carrying a gun.By the grace of God he was not but I was not aware of that at the time I was being mugged. Fortunately I made some stone cold decisions in my head about how this situation was going to go. These decisions I made purely on the basis of what I was taught in classes I took in concealed carry.

1. I remained calm
2. I gave him whatever property he asked for because money and valuables are not as valuable as my life or the life of any human being even the jerk that is robbing you.
3. From the point of giving them your valuables beyond the point of that a person has the right to not comply with anything else the criminal demands

After handing him the money he demanded that my brother and I walk down a street I was not planning on walking down. This is the point where had I been in florida this man would of been shot. Most likely not dead but my response at that point would of been as follows.

At the point of telling me he was armed I had the right to shoot him right there and then.

Had I had my firearm I would of actually waited until he demanded me to go down a dark street with him before I drew.

However I was not armed.. The reason is because Florida permits are not considered Valid in New Jersey.

If had had a knife or blunt weapon

Telling that person (before drawing) that I have been forced to defend myself.Would of been my next move.

This man however was not armed but had his hand in his pocket telling me was armed.

Now from what I h=understand about handguns from those classes

I knew that if it was a revolver he had in his pocket and he shot me through his jacket I would of most likely been hurt but not dead because most likely he would of shot me with an full metal jacket bullet. A full metal jacket bullet is the most common bullet out there and legal in New Jersey. Fmjs have a common problem of over-penetrating out of the body and hitting things it should not. In the rest of the usa these rounds are meant for target practice not defense. It is a courtesy to used hollow points. If I had been shot and my brother was behind me he would of gotten hit too. The other downside to this is if this had happened in Florida and the tables were turned around and i had to defend myself I would be liable for over travel injuries inflicted upon individuals or property.

I also knew that if he shot me with a semi auto in his pocket. The gun would of jammed because you can't do that with a semi auto. The gun's slide would lock up or jam. Plus if he had shot me with an fmj the bullet would of went clean through me thus the would would be small and my chances of living would of greatly increased. However if i was in Florida and i was armed and had my CCP yet I had to used FMJ it would of most likely taken more than one shot to slowdown the perpetrator from killing me. The reason in the past it took in new york 12 to 17 shots to stop one perpetrator has to do with the fact that New york PD would not issue hollow points for some PC reason.

Incidentally even to this day with hollow-points sometimes this issue of using too many bullets to stop a criminal even occurs and then you have Jessie jackson screaming about police brutality because he doesn't know anything about the capability of firearms. Handguns are poor man stoppers to begin with. They were meant to be defensive not offensive tools. So thats why people who have 9 milimeter pistols need high capacity clips. Most other bigger calibers usually go up to about 12 or 13. In proportion to what may be needed to stop someone of larger stature or on a powerful substance.

Hollow points provide better stopping power but they penetrate much less than fmj. What makes hollowpoints so deadly is also what makes them so safe. They cannot penetrate body armor. That means that civilians and criminals will not be able to penetrate body armor with them. Hollowpoints expand and since they do not penetrate that deeply they are much safer. Had the perpertrators gun been loaded with hollowpoints the velocity through his pocket assuming he had a revolver would of slowed down enough that when it finally hit me it would most likely cause only a wide flesh wound but nothing that could not be fixed up with the marvels of modern medical advances.

To make a long story short I decided still believing that he had a gun but also calculating the possibilities of the damage I might receive had he shot me I decided that the only way to save my life and my brothers life was to completely defy this man. Not having a gun or any real way to protect myself and the fact that there was a second individual with this guy egging him on. I defied his demand to go down the dark street he wanted me too. (That night there were only four robbery plain clothes detectives working in that newark district but that i will get to in a second) I began to continue to walk up Bloomfield Avenue and took my brother with me. The man kept threatening me as I walked I got myself into a crowd of people 2 of which were undercover detectives of that precinct. They nailed em both we got our money back and the rest is history. I wish I could remember the names of the arresting officers that night. They were out on a lunch break.

I urge you to take New Jersey out of the stone age of politically correct and prorich gun laws and into the age of practicality and public trust. New jersey has a responsible citizenry and they are for the most part a very hard working class of people and they deserve better than this. The people of the state of New jersey deserve leaders that can and will trust them with the responsibility of their saftey. This also makes sense when you consider how much funding you have cut from allocations to the cities which is a justifiable decision on your part to a point but when it cuts into police budgets aline must be drawn. The true compromise with these deep needed cuts would be to transfer part of the responsibility to defend oneself right into the hands of the honest working public. Plus with a relaxation of these laws a flood of CCW permits would bring a large anout of revenue into the treasury to help better fund law enforcement.

God bless you sir and my you find in your heart the strength to do what is right by the people you represent.

Re: Man given 7 year sentence for guns he legally owned. Bizarre story.

High cap mags & hollow points are no more dangerous than your car, or medical malpractice. I agree. We should be able to have pretty much anything we want within limit. But that guy hung himself. Ya gotta know your local laws. If you think your laws are too oppressive, ya gotta move. I know it sucks, but, ya gotta do what ya gotta do. I feel sorry for the guy, but he's gonna get charged.
He should have just used EFMJ's, with 10 round mags.