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View Poll Results: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

Originally Posted by Montecresto

She isn't mine, A and 2, where's your proof that he's the worst? That's been reserved for both Carter and Bush 2. Other then it being your opinion.

Where's the proof? Are you serious? Where have you been the last 6 months? That is my opinion and also the opinion of a lot of other people. Once again you may want to read , research and question. As I said before the MSNBC Hate-A-Thon will only ruin your mind.

Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

Originally Posted by Dittohead not!

No, instead he launched an invasion of a secular state, thus creating a power vacuum leading to the rise of an even more radical group than AlQaeda.

Actually the power vacuum was caused by leaving, after the US (and allies?) replaced the former Iraq leadership with US/allied military force-supported leaders, thus pulling a significant portion of their support and leaving their collective ass hanging in the breeze.

Edit: Which is not to say that removing the former leadership was the best option in the first place, you understand. Or at least not to that extent.

Unless I misunderstand, basically we disbanded most/all iraq leadership organizations and then built new ones.

Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

Originally Posted by The Mark

Actually the power vacuum was caused by leaving, after the US (and allies?) replaced the former Iraq leadership with US/allied military force-supported leaders, thus pulling a significant portion of their support and leaving their collective ass hanging in the breeze.

Edit: Which is not to say that removing the former leadership was the best option in the first place, you understand. Or at least not to that extent.

Unless I misunderstand, basically we disbanded most/all iraq leadership organizations and then built new ones.

Edit 2: Or tried.

I think "or tried" is correct.

The result of taking out Saddam Hussain, admittedly a dictator and a bad guy, and replacing him with (what? A government that was supposed to have been friendly to the West, but had no real power in Iraq?) then following a troop withdrawal plan that had been "negotiated" with that government was totally predictable. What has happened is we replaced bad with worse, and now are wondering just what to do next.

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Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

Originally Posted by Dittohead not!

I think "or tried" is correct.

The result of taking out Saddam Hussain, admittedly a dictator and a bad guy, and replacing him with (what? A government that was supposed to have been friendly to the West, but had no real power in Iraq?) then following a troop withdrawal plan that had been "negotiated" with that government was totally predictable. What has happened is we replaced bad with worse, and now are wondering just what to do next.

Personally, I think removing Saddam was good, but we ****ed up everything else, from the management of the new government creation to the later withdrawal.

If we had done the government creation part right we might have been able to withdraw without the results we see now.

Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

Personally, I think removing Saddam was good, but we ****ed up everything else, from the management of the new government creation to the later withdrawal.

If we had done the government creation part right we might have been able to withdraw without the results we see now.

The fact remains when we left Iraq in 2011 the country was stable.......Because we did not leave a residual force it is a total disaster now thanks to Obama..Don't give me this crap about a SOFA either...Something could have been worked out.

Re: Do you trust president Obama to do a good job fighting ISIS?

Originally Posted by Lakeside

Where's the proof? Are you serious? Where have you been the last 6 months? That is my opinion and also the opinion of a lot of other people. Once again you may want to read , research and question. As I said before the MSNBC Hate-A-Thon will only ruin your mind.

Sure there are lots of people that think Obama is the worst president ever, just as there are lots of people that think Bush 2 was the worst president ever. In fact, it turns out its only a matter of opinion.