Hmmm I have used a stable config, I do have app profiles for some stuffbut to be honest I have not had a problem.

On 28/03/2016 7:34 a.m., Gene wrote:

As I recall, save configuration settings on exit used to be unchecked bydefault. I haven't looked for quite awhile. Are people saying thatsettings are now saved on exit by default? If so, that’s a really badidea because it may lead to lots of inadvertently saved changes. Peoplemay change something intending the change to be temporary and find itunintentionally being saved.

Calling them application settings may lead to confusion as NVDA refers tothem as configuration settings. Whether configuration settings are savedon exit or not is governed by the 'Save configuration on exit' check boxin the General settings dialog (NVDA+Control+g). If you elect to uncheckthis setting, NVDA+Control+c will save the current configuration.

Does anyone know how to save application settings in NVDA. I find themanual a bit confusing when it comes to this...I believe a profile needsto be created and I would like that it be triggered by a specificapplication but when do I choose the settings & save?

Hi,1. Yes, each branch knows which update branch to use.2. No, I'm in favor of keeping it (and this is useful as a good reminder as to how nVDA funding works and to state the fact that NV Access relies on grants and donations).Cheers,Joseph

Hi Joseph Are you saying each branch updates itself from it's own branch? A second question is can the donate menu item be removed from nvda's menu? PeteOn 3/27/2016 2:13 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi everyone,Let me give you a "backstage tour" regarding this issue and why the suggestion will not be implemented:As you may know by now, NV Access produces at least three branches: rc (release candidate), master, and next. The rc branch is where the stable (and official) releases happen, master is perpetual beta, and next is alpha-level code (bleeding-edge). For those using Chrome (or are reading the Chrome thread) may have noticed a similar pattern: Canary is equivalent to NVDA next (alpha-level code and is built nightly), dev and beta are equivalent to NVDA master, and the release that gets used by many users is equivalent to NVDA stable build.Sometimes, NV Access or others may produce other snapshots. In the past, NV Access was known for producing snapshots from branches that required public testing (such as feedback when entering Asian characters). At one point, I have produced third-party snapshots, ranging from Windows 10 support, support for newer processor instructions, initial support for Outlook Calendar, and most recently, UEB tests (my snapshots, unlike those of NV Access, does not support updates).When we produce snapshots, we assume the following:* Many people are using stable builds.* Using a snapshot means more bugs.* When users are installing snapshots, they do so either because they are adventurous or would like to test upcoming features.Regarding the last point, in order to move from stable build to development branches and vice versa, you need to download and install the desired build in question. This is because of the following:* NVDA keeps a record of the branch it should query when connecting to NV Access server to retrieve updates. You can "fool" NVDA to download a different snapshot via code, but it won't work (this record is constant and will revert back to its original string once NVDA restarts).* When NVDA checks for updates, it'll check the branch in question, and will present the update prompt if the version you've got is different than that of the one hosted on the server.* Unless silenced, NVDA will check for updates every 24 hours.Thus, when "changing" branches, you need to do this willingly. Because snapshots are reserved for a specific audience (although stable build users could try them out), the user interface for specifying branches will not be implemented.Cheers,Joseph

Snapshot users use snapshots. Main branch users use main versions. This doesn't require the main branch to be modified and instead targets the wanted modification users, snapshot users with the update to snapshots witch is what they want rite? The normal update channel will stil be there in the snapshot version so if a snapshot user wants to update to a main version she or he can do so if desired. People using snapshots are more likely to upgrade snapshots. Why clutter up nvda main with extra options they may, no more than likely use? Having said all that, the option to update to snapshot versions in the main branchbrantch would keep the code consistant between main and snapshot. if a snapshot user upgrades to a main version they would loose upgrade to snapshot version, so may be better to modifie the main branch. Keeping the snapshot and main versions separate makes more sense. It is less confusing for snapshot users to update to snapshot version updates and main version users update to main version updates respectively and exclusively.

Pete

On 3/27/2016 10:04 AM, Lenron wrote:

You should just have the option in the main version if you wish to update to a snap shot or not. I normally love grabbing the next build as soon as I can.

On 3/27/16, Pete <emac00@...> wrote:

Hi Chris What I am talking about is the snap shot versions of nvda check for snap shot updates them selves. In that way the normal nvda dist users could just go on using the normal nvda dist with out worrying if it will update to a snap shot. Pete

On 3/26/2016 6:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Well, when on a snapshot, it actually does notify you of updates at this point. Not sure when the last time was you tried.---Christopher GillandJAWS Certified, 2016.Training Instructor.

Personaly i think it could be an good idea. I think many like me often forgot to check for updates even for snapshot, so at least some kind of notification would be apresiated.

Den 2016-03-26 kl. 13:54, skrev Kevin Cussick via Groups.io:

no this is not a good idea, a newbey might try this feature thatyou want and download a snap and it might have problems then threwword of mouth nvda gets a bad reputation, this was asked for someyears ago and the devs gave this explanation of why it was a bad idea I agree with them.

On 26/03/2016 03:51, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I was just thinking how cool of a feature this would be, and I'd not think it would be terribly hard either to implement.How hard would it be from the official build, like in this case, 2016.1, to put an option in the NVDA menu, maybe under Tools, that automatically like downloading updates would let the user download and install the latest snapshot build rather than them having to go out to the web site and manually get it. Either that, or maybe under the General tab of preferences, where you have the box to check or uncheck for checking for updates, maybe have another one that says download snapshot builds when updating.What do you all think?---Christopher GillandJAWS Certified, 2016.Training Instructor.@AHeart4God316 <mailto:@AHeart4God316>Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.

Hi Cris May be there are five equal signs a space then five more and so on repeating the equal sign space combination.like below:===== ===== ===== ===== not sure how to tell nvda / espeak dictionary how it should say this. Pete

On 3/27/2016 12:03 PM, Andre Fisher wrote:

I don't understand what you are saying.========== comes out as 10 = on my end.

On 3/26/16, Chris <chrismedley@...> wrote:

and ===== can be equally annoying :Dwhy not say ten equals instead of repeating over and over :(

On 26/03/2016 11:26, Patrick Le Baudour wrote:

Hi,

I have found one way :add an entry in the dictionnary, with input^empty$(assuming nvda tells you empty for empty lines) replaced by nothing.Select regular expression as type.

The side effect would be that it probably not read any line, button orany other object containing only the word empty. But so far I havefound no better way.

-- Patrick.

Le 25/03/2016 17:37, Davy Cuppens a écrit :

Hi folksLast question before Easter,When reading texts line per line, NVDA always announces empty line whenit encounters one.Can this be set off?RegardsDavy

Hi everyone,Let me give you a "backstage tour" regarding this issue and why the suggestion will not be implemented:As you may know by now, NV Access produces at least three branches: rc (release candidate), master, and next. The rc branch is where the stable (and official) releases happen, master is perpetual beta, and next is alpha-level code (bleeding-edge). For those using Chrome (or are reading the Chrome thread) may have noticed a similar pattern: Canary is equivalent to NVDA next (alpha-level code and is built nightly), dev and beta are equivalent to NVDA master, and the release that gets used by many users is equivalent to NVDA stable build.Sometimes, NV Access or others may produce other snapshots. In the past, NV Access was known for producing snapshots from branches that required public testing (such as feedback when entering Asian characters). At one point, I have produced third-party snapshots, ranging from Windows 10 support, support for newer processor instructions, initial support for Outlook Calendar, and most recently, UEB tests (my snapshots, unlike those of NV Access, does not support updates).When we produce snapshots, we assume the following:* Many people are using stable builds.* Using a snapshot means more bugs.* When users are installing snapshots, they do so either because they are adventurous or would like to test upcoming features.Regarding the last point, in order to move from stable build to development branches and vice versa, you need to download and install the desired build in question. This is because of the following:* NVDA keeps a record of the branch it should query when connecting to NV Access server to retrieve updates. You can "fool" NVDA to download a different snapshot via code, but it won't work (this record is constant and will revert back to its original string once NVDA restarts).* When NVDA checks for updates, it'll check the branch in question, and will present the update prompt if the version you've got is different than that of the one hosted on the server.* Unless silenced, NVDA will check for updates every 24 hours.Thus, when "changing" branches, you need to do this willingly. Because snapshots are reserved for a specific audience (although stable build users could try them out), the user interface for specifying branches will not be implemented.Cheers,Joseph

Snapshot users use snapshots. Main branch users use main versions. This doesn't require the main branch to be modified and instead targets the wanted modification users, snapshot users with the update to snapshots witch is what they want rite? The normal update channel will stil be there in the snapshot version so if a snapshot user wants to update to a main version she or he can do so if desired. People using snapshots are more likely to upgrade snapshots. Why clutter up nvda main with extra options they may, no more than likely use? Having said all that, the option to update to snapshot versions in the main branchbrantch would keep the code consistant between main and snapshot. if a snapshot user upgrades to a main version they would loose upgrade to snapshot version, so may be better to modifie the main branch. Keeping the snapshot and main versions separate makes more sense. It is less confusing for snapshot users to update to snapshot version updates and main version users update to main version updates respectively and exclusively.

Pete

On 3/27/2016 10:04 AM, Lenron wrote:

You should just have the option in the main version if you wish toupdate to a snap shot or not. I normally love grabbing the next buildas soon as I can.

On 3/27/16, Pete <emac00@...> wrote:

Hi Chris What I am talking about is the snap shot versions of nvda check forsnap shot updates them selves. In that way the normal nvda dist users could just go on using thenormal nvda dist with out worrying if it will update to a snap shot. Pete

On 3/26/2016 6:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

Well, when on a snapshot, it actually does notify you of updates atthis point. Not sure when the last time was you tried.---Christopher GillandJAWS Certified, 2016.Training Instructor.

Personaly i think it could be an good idea. I think many like meoften forgot to check for updates even for snapshot, so at least somekind of notification would be apresiated.

Den 2016-03-26 kl. 13:54, skrev Kevin Cussick via Groups.io:

no this is not a good idea, a newbey might try this feature thatyou want and download a snap and it might have problems then threwword of mouth nvda gets a bad reputation, this was asked for someyears ago and the devs gave this explanation of why it was a badidea I agree with them.

On 26/03/2016 03:51, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

I was just thinking how cool of a feature this would be, and I'd notthink it would be terribly hard either to implement.How hard would it be from the official build, like in this case,2016.1,to put an option in the NVDA menu, maybe under Tools, thatautomaticallylike downloading updates would let the user download and install thelatest snapshot build rather than them having to go out to the websiteand manually get it. Either that, or maybe under the General tab ofpreferences, where you have the box to check or uncheck forchecking forupdates, maybe have another one that says download snapshot buildswhenupdating.What do you all think?---Christopher GillandJAWS Certified, 2016.Training Instructor.@AHeart4God316 <mailto:@AHeart4God316>Phone: (704) 256-8010 Extension 401.

Hmm, very strange. Once you type the zip and press enter, the next page loads immediately. I press h to go to the heading, then either down arrow to find the forecast or up arrow to read the current weather conditions.Travis.

I just tried the mobile site and couldn't get it to work. I tried typingmy zip code in the edit field like you normally do but it doesn't work.Either it's not accessible or maybe I'm missing something here.

RosemarieOn 3/27/2016 10:19 AM, Kwork wrote:

I uninstalled it this morning. With the silence on inquiries into this beingso loud, I kind of figured it might be a lost cause at this point.The site I use for my forecast now is Weather Underground Mobile:http://m.wund.com/Very accessible, and it's the same one, last I knew, that Jaws uses for itsresearch it for their weather.Travis----- Original Message -----From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...>To: <nvda@groups.io>Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:24 AMSubject: [nvda] Weather Add On Still Not Working

Hi Group,

The new and exciting Weather Add On is still not working--now for about48 hours. Does anyone have any further information about this? Who canI contact to advise. Yahoo must have changed something.

I agree, more natural sounding labels for controls reduce
confusion.
Well, a sited computer user looks at labels or icons and so on,
start/stop button is what they expect to see for a label not stop
and start. It's one of the things sited people do to drive us
nuts.
Pete

I haven't checked to see how the
label is written. So how it is spoken may be determined by
what punctuation setting is being used. I simply think it
should be written in such a way that it always reads the same
such as punctuation followed by the word and and then the word
symbol. or if this is considered too nonstandard in this age
where signs such as slash and the and sign must be used, then
internal coding should be used to cause it to read clearly,
whatever someone with vision sees. I use no punctuation and
to be correct, I should hear something like punctuation and
symbol or punctuation slash symbol. From a speech standpoint,
I consider punctuation slash symbol to be significantly
inferior and unnatural sounding. .

I am not sure I know what you mean. Are you talking about
grammatically correct labeling for controls in nvda or my
dropping the slash from the name of the control? reminds me of
calling google chrome chrome.
Two controls makes more sense to me.
One control for controlling punctuation
and
a second control for controlling symbols
instead of one combined punctuation and symbol control.
Pete

On 3/27/2016 1:17 PM, Gene wrote:

Then it should say punctuation
and symbol if that is the intended meaning.

Punctuation symbol level is o k for now, for example:
the pound sign is not punctuation and same for the slash and
back-slash.
may be two separate control settings like: Punctuation level
and
symbol level
might be easier to understand for some.

Pete

On 3/27/2016 9:38 AM, Gene wrote:

Ppunctuation should be set to
all in the following manner:

Issue the command NVDA key
control v if using the desktop layout.

Tab arount the voice settings
dialog that opens and set punctuation symbol level to
all. I think this setting should be called simply
punctuation level in the program. Of course punctuation
is symbols. It's redundant to use the word symbol and it
may be annoying or confusing to some users. There is no
need to change any other settings.

Then tab to and activate the
ok button.

When you want to return to
the punctuation level you were using before, issue the
command NVDA key control r to restore the previous
configuration.

No problem, glad I could help!
Are you using nvda number pad cursor to read with
or
are you using the normal arrow keys to read?

Try setting in nvda
Preferences
Voice settings...
Punctuation/symbol level: all
When Punctuation symbol level is set to all the arrow keys
should
announce all arrow key presses.
If not there might be a problem in the nvda installation.
I have mine set to some.
The nvda reading cursor reading character by character
reads all.
I am not sure if I miss being able to set Punctuation
symbol level
for different cursors like in jaws.
Pete
On 3/27/2016 4:17 AM, Ajay Sharma wrote:
> Thanks a lot Pete, you saved the day!
>
> Any ideas on how do I make nvda read all the punctuation
during say
> all or while reading line by line? I need it as while
coding, it
> doesn't reads all the punctuation marks when I read line
by line, so
> I have to move character by character, and that takes a
lot of time.
>
> Any help on this would be much appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Ajay
>
> On 3/26/16, Pete <emac00@...> wrote:
>> Hi
>> the insert + plus keys on number pad moves the
nvda review cursor to
>> the bottom line of cmd window. You can use nvda's
review 7 8 9 line by
>> line 4 5 6 word by word and 1 2 3 char by char.
>> Pete
>> On 3/26/2016 2:18 AM, Ajay Sharma wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> Plz suggest a way out to,
>>> 1. Read text in command line, CMD.
>>> 2. Make NVDA read all the punctuation, while
reading line by line or
>>> during say all, I tried to set punctuation level
to all, but it didn't
>>> worked out.
>>> 3.
>>> Alt + Ctrl + N shortcut is not working.
>>>
>>> I am using win 10 Home and NVDA 16.1.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> Ajay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

Hello
guys. I need some advice on how to use nvda with google hangouts.I
have a feeling that this won't be easy. Has anyone here used
itsuccessfully, more than once? If necessary, email me off list.govsta@... Thanks in advance for all
assistance.

I haven't checked to see how the label is
written. So how it is spoken may be determined by what punctuation setting
is being used. I simply think it should be written in such a way that it
always reads the same such as punctuation followed by the word and and then the
word symbol. or if this is considered too nonstandard in this age where
signs such as slash and the and sign must be used, then internal coding
should be used to cause it to read clearly, whatever someone with vision
sees. I use no punctuation and to be correct, I should hear something like
punctuation and symbol or punctuation slash symbol. From a speech
standpoint, I consider punctuation slash symbol to be significantly inferior and
unnatural sounding. .

I
am not sure I know what you mean. Are you talking about grammatically
correct labeling for controls in nvda or my dropping the slash from the name of
the control? reminds me of calling google chrome chrome.
Two controls makes more sense to me. One control for
controlling punctuation and a second control
for controlling symbols instead of one combined punctuation and
symbol control. Pete

On 3/27/2016 1:17 PM, Gene wrote:

Then it should say punctuation and symbol if that
is the intended meaning.

Punctuation symbol level is o k for now, for example:
the pound sign is not punctuation and same for the slash and
back-slash. may be two separate control settings like:
Punctuation level and symbol
level might be easier to understand for some.

Pete

On 3/27/2016 9:38 AM, Gene wrote:

Ppunctuation should be set to all in the
following manner:

Issue the command NVDA key control v if using
the desktop layout.

Tab arount the voice settings dialog that opens
and set punctuation symbol level to all. I think this setting should
be called simply punctuation level in the program. Of course
punctuation is symbols. It's redundant to use the word symbol and it
may be annoying or confusing to some users. There is no need to change
any other settings.

Then tab to and activate the ok
button.

When you want to return to the punctuation
level you were using before, issue the command NVDA key control r to restore
the previous configuration.

No problem, glad I could
help! Are you using nvda number pad cursor to read
with or are you using the normal arrow keys
to read?

Try setting in nvda
Preferences Voice settings...
Punctuation/symbol level: all When Punctuation symbol level
is set to all the arrow keys should announce all arrow key
presses. If not there might be a problem in the nvda
installation.I have mine set to some. The nvda reading
cursor reading character by character reads all. I am not
sure if I miss being able to set Punctuation symbol level for different
cursors like in jaws. PeteOn 3/27/2016 4:17 AM, Ajay
Sharma wrote:> Thanks a lot Pete, you saved the day!>>
Any ideas on how do I make nvda read all the punctuation during say>
all or while reading line by line? I need it as while coding,
it> doesn't reads all the punctuation marks when I read line by
line, so> I have to move character by character, and that takes a lot
of time.>> Any help on this would be much
appreciated.>> Cheers,> Ajay>> On
3/26/16, Pete <emac00@...>
wrote:>>
Hi>> the insert + plus keys on number pad
moves the nvda review cursor to>> the bottom line of cmd
window. You can use nvda's review 7 8 9 line by>> line 4 5 6
word by word and 1 2 3 char by char.>>
Pete>> On 3/26/2016 2:18 AM, Ajay Sharma wrote:>>>
Hey guys,>>>>>> Plz suggest a way out
to,>>> 1. Read text in command line, CMD.>>> 2.
Make NVDA read all the punctuation, while reading line by line
or>>> during say all, I tried to set punctuation level to all,
but it didn't>>> worked out.>>>
3.>>> Alt + Ctrl + N shortcut is not
working.>>>>>> I am using win 10 Home and NVDA
16.1.>>>>>> Thanks in advance!>>>
Ajay>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>

As I recall, save configuration settings on exit used to be unchecked by default. I haven't looked for quite awhile. Are people saying that settings are now saved on exit by default? If so, that’s a really bad idea because it may lead to lots of inadvertently saved changes. People may change something intending the change to be temporary and find it unintentionally being saved.

Calling them application settings may lead to confusion as NVDA refers to them as configuration settings. Whether configuration settings are saved on exit or not is governed by the 'Save configuration on exit' check box in the General settings dialog (NVDA+Control+g). If you elect to uncheck this setting, NVDA+Control+c will save the current configuration.

Does anyone know how to save application settings in NVDA. I find the manual a bit confusing when it comes to this...I believe a profile needs to be created and I would like that it be triggered by a specific application but when do I choose the settings & save?

Thunderbird may have updated
again. As I've said before, if someone is just using
Thunderbird as an e-mail program and isn't using other
features, finding a version that works as desired and then
telling it not to update will save considerable trouble over
time. There is no reason to update a program you use only for
e-mail.

Just today insert + b says unknown when I try to use it to read
the
dialog in the spell check in Thunderbird.
Any ideas?
It worked before today no new apps or applications were
installed
since yesterday.
Pete

I am not sure I know what you mean. Are you talking about
grammatically correct labeling for controls in nvda or my dropping
the slash from the name of the control? reminds me of calling
google chrome chrome.
Two controls makes more sense to me.
One control for controlling punctuation
and
a second control for controlling symbols
instead of one combined punctuation and symbol control.
Pete

Punctuation symbol level is o k for now, for example:
the pound sign is not punctuation and same for the slash and
back-slash.
may be two separate control settings like: Punctuation level
and
symbol level
might be easier to understand for some.

Pete

On 3/27/2016 9:38 AM, Gene wrote:

Ppunctuation should be set to
all in the following manner:

Issue the command NVDA key
control v if using the desktop layout.

Tab arount the voice settings
dialog that opens and set punctuation symbol level to all.
I think this setting should be called simply punctuation
level in the program. Of course punctuation is symbols.
It's redundant to use the word symbol and it may be annoying
or confusing to some users. There is no need to change any
other settings.

Then tab to and activate the ok
button.

When you want to return to the
punctuation level you were using before, issue the command
NVDA key control r to restore the previous configuration.

No problem, glad I could help!
Are you using nvda number pad cursor to read with
or
are you using the normal arrow keys to read?

Try setting in nvda
Preferences
Voice settings...
Punctuation/symbol level: all
When Punctuation symbol level is set to all the arrow keys
should
announce all arrow key presses.
If not there might be a problem in the nvda installation.
I have mine set to some.
The nvda reading cursor reading character by character reads
all.
I am not sure if I miss being able to set Punctuation symbol
level
for different cursors like in jaws.
Pete
On 3/27/2016 4:17 AM, Ajay Sharma wrote:
> Thanks a lot Pete, you saved the day!
>
> Any ideas on how do I make nvda read all the punctuation
during say
> all or while reading line by line? I need it as while
coding, it
> doesn't reads all the punctuation marks when I read line
by line, so
> I have to move character by character, and that takes a lot
of time.
>
> Any help on this would be much appreciated.
>
> Cheers,
> Ajay
>
> On 3/26/16, Pete <emac00@...> wrote:
>> Hi
>> the insert + plus keys on number pad moves the nvda
review cursor to
>> the bottom line of cmd window. You can use nvda's
review 7 8 9 line by
>> line 4 5 6 word by word and 1 2 3 char by char.
>> Pete
>> On 3/26/2016 2:18 AM, Ajay Sharma wrote:
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> Plz suggest a way out to,
>>> 1. Read text in command line, CMD.
>>> 2. Make NVDA read all the punctuation, while
reading line by line or
>>> during say all, I tried to set punctuation level to
all, but it didn't
>>> worked out.
>>> 3.
>>> Alt + Ctrl + N shortcut is not working.
>>>
>>> I am using win 10 Home and NVDA 16.1.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>> Ajay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

As I recall, save configuration settings on exit
used to be unchecked by default. I haven't looked for quite awhile.
Are people saying that settings are now saved on exit by default? If so,
that’s a really bad idea because it may lead to lots of inadvertently saved
changes. People may change something intending the change to be temporary
and find it unintentionally being saved.

Calling them application settings may lead to confusion as NVDA
refers to them as configuration settings. Whether configuration settings
are saved on exit or not is governed by the 'Save configuration on exit' check
box in the General settings dialog (NVDA+Control+g). If you elect to
uncheck this setting, NVDA+Control+c will save the current configuration.

On 28/03/2016 1:49 a.m., sarabrennan@... wrote:> Does
anyone know how to save application settings in NVDA. I find the manual a bit
confusing when it comes to this...I believe a profile needs to be created and I
would like that it be triggered by a specific application but when do I choose
the settings & save?>>
Thanks>

Calling them application settings may lead to confusion as NVDA refers to them as configuration settings. Whether configuration settings are saved on exit or not is governed by the 'Save configuration on exit' check box in the General settings dialog (NVDA+Control+g). If you elect to uncheck this setting, NVDA+Control+c will save the current configuration.

Does anyone know how to save application settings in NVDA. I find the manual a bit confusing when it comes to this...I believe a profile needs to be created and I would like that it be triggered by a specific application but when do I choose the settings & save?

Hi I a while ago asked about a screen buffer / cache for nvda to hold the content in memory while the page was refreshing so we could read it with out nvda constantly trying to read over and over the refresh. It would take up too much memory to do this is I think what I was told. Not sure how it can be done other than suspending the pages refresh rites. Pete

Even it would be possible to stop JavaScript - there is an add on called "noscript" that can do the job in Firefox - it is cumbersome and always need several steps to activate or deactivate the refresh function.I had such a site that permanently refreshes but can't show it to the public, because it is the config screen of my mobile router. I couldn't config it myself in the past, but need sighted help to change the settings of the device.A single keystroke like in Cobra or at last pressing some other hotkey combination to temporary freeze the screen and give it free again by the same keystroke would be very helpful in NVDA, too.

Am Sonntag, 27. März 2016 14:30 schrieb Pete <emac00@...>:

inabout:config in fire fox one can change a lot of java settings, or even disable java. Might try disabling java and see how that works, or if itstops the page from working. Pete

Hmmm.Well I havn't touched linux for a while.When I went to school it was fedora 4 or was it 3 I forget.I had an old synth then, the sound stuff started after school.I fiddled with grml for a bit, then ran vinux 3 then ubuntu shell.I fiddled with arch while I was sick but never got it working again and due to my system I used it for not being active for a while its stopped working I guess my time is out of date.My plan is to use sonar but to be honest linux is a hobby for me.I am a primarily windows user, and so is just about everyone on the network both remote and local so right now I don't use linux.Its been a fiddle here and there nothing serious.

Multiple versions of dot net behave better. Some games wanted dotnet 2.0 to run and a t i and intel install managers use dot net 2.0. Myold x p computer had dot net 1.1 2.0 3.0 3.5 and 4.0 installed. I needto figure out a way to capture the info for the visual c + + errors topresent them here. Not sure how to do this. Some of the v c messagesare in a dialog box but the latest things I am talking about I think arein a balloon or some thing that disappears. The message was aboutconflicting instances of some v c dot d l l being loaded. What dist & ver of Linux are you using? Pete

On 3/26/2016 12:36 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Well, I have a multipul installs of dotnet from 3.5 to 4.6 here on 7win10 has 5 and does not run other versions.v3.5 works on v2, and v4 on v3 the latest dotnets should work as farback as 2.As for visual c, they shouldn't conflict as such because certainprograms need certain libraries.Now, my only wish would be that windows does what linux does.The libs don't take up that much space but even so.I'd prefur say you install something or try to do something.\Say I want to run x program but its missing y z dll.Windows is unable to start this program because *.dll is not loadedplease reinstall.To avoid this I load just about every library I can to stop that error.It happens with codecs.If I am using linux, I type in something to install, it says thisneeds such and such component, do you want to install it or it tellsyou what to do.I have often installed programs for ssh and a few things on linux, andgot messages like this program is not installed, or this program ispart of another install for servers, or in deed, unable to startbecause this thing is missing.However in linux you can then install it because it basically tellsyou what to install.If ms would do the same at least with its libs then we wouldn't havethis issue better still with linux it tells you what is needed, whatcould be nice, what is not but if you need it it would be nice orsimply whatever.In windows, I have slim dx, java latest, klite codec, visual c 2005sp12008sp1 2010 2012 2013 2015 2016 and their 64 bit equivilants.On the subject of python, both 3x and 2x are still supported 2.7x isthe version a lot of stuff uses however its a good point a lot ofstuff has moved on from the older releases.

On 26/03/2016 2:29 a.m., Pete wrote:

HiThe proliferation of the famous Microsoft Visual C + + redistributablepackages is dangerous to nvva. Windows loads multiple instances of the d l l s and not all instancesare the same version or even the correct version for a given programcausing untraceable bugs in nvda along with other programs like exploreror the w10 file manager. There doesn't seem to be backward compatibility say from visual c + +2015 to earlier versions. A second dangerous trend is the proliferation of multiple versions ofdot net frame work. Again here no apparent backward compatibility seems to exists. So one has his or her windows computer cluttered up with multipleversions in most cases taking up hard drive real estate and causingconflicts. A lot of the nvda bugs possibly can be linked to miss matchedversions of d l l s being loaded by windows. A third concern is the old version of python being used. If it'stime to upgrade from say visual c + + 2008 it should be time to updateto a newer version of python. Shouldn't it? Pete

Hi Cris May be there are five equal signs a space then five more and so on repeating the equal sign space combination.like below:===== ===== ===== ===== not sure how to tell nvda / espeak dictionary how it should say this. Pete

I uninstalled it this morning. With the silence on inquiries into this beingso loud, I kind of figured it might be a lost cause at this point.The site I use for my forecast now is Weather Underground Mobile:http://m.wund.com/Very accessible, and it's the same one, last I knew, that Jaws uses for itsresearch it for their weather.Travis----- Original Message -----From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@...>To: <nvda@groups.io>Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:24 AMSubject: [nvda] Weather Add On Still Not Working

Hi Group,

The new and exciting Weather Add On is still not working--now for about48 hours. Does anyone have any further information about this? Who canI contact to advise. Yahoo must have changed something.

Just today insert + b says unknown when I try to use it to read the dialog in the spell check in Thunderbird. Any ideas? It worked before today no new apps or applications were installed since yesterday. Pete

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