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There was a third Gholston incident that did not get called, and another assault on Denard - If you watch early in the 4th quarter maybe about 11-12 minutes left? Gholston sacks Denard. After Denard is clearly down for a few seconds, he pulls on the back of Denards pads, pulling Denard onto his neck and roll his hips over Denard - purposely trying to again hurt Denards neck. Check the video yourself to see.

There was a third Gholston incident that did not get called, and another assault on Denard - If you watch early in the 4th quarter maybe about 11-12 minutes left? Gholston sacks Denard. After Denard is clearly down for a few seconds, he pulls on the back of Denards pads, pulling Denard onto his neck and roll his hips over Denard - purposely trying to again hurt Denards neck. Check the video yourself to see.

Posted this on the front page story comments, but I guess no one read it...

Seems to me that there is a lot of promise from his HS days (below) - maybe he's not big will jr, but no reason he shouldn't contribute at some point in the future either at DE or DT.

"three-year starter at defensive line and fullback ... finished prep career with 110 tackles, 11 sacks, two forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries and two interceptions... tallied 36 tackles, seven sacks and two interceptions during senior campaign ... selected first-team all-state at linebacker by The Detroit News... first-team all-state defensive lineman and running back by the Detroit Free Press... Ann Arbor News Player of the Year and was named all-league on offense and defense by the newspaper... two-time Division I state champion in the discus... won the state title in the shot put..."

Seems to me that there is a lot of promise from his HS days (below) - maybe he's not big will jr, but no reason he shouldn't contribute at some point in the future either at DE or DT.

"three-year starter at defensive line and fullback ... finished prep career with 110 tackles, 11 sacks, two forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries and two interceptions... tallied 36 tackles, seven sacks and two interceptions during senior campaign ... selected first-team all-state at linebacker by The Detroit News... first-team all-state defensive lineman and running back by the Detroit Free Press... Ann Arbor News Player of the Year and was named all-league on offense and defense by the newspaper... two-time Division I state champion in the discus... won the state title in the shot put..."

seems he produced a high pressure d at every one of his stops as a DC... even with the Chiefs

"Last season (2003), Robinson’s Chiefs’ defense produced 36 sacks (T-6th/AFC), 25 interceptions (2nd AFC/3rd NFL) and forced 37 turnovers (T-3rd AFC/5th NFL). Kansas City led the NFL in turnover margin with a +19 advantage in that category. In 2001, the Chiefs registered 34 sacks, 18 interceptions and forced 31 turnovers. They led the AFC and ranked third in the NFL in turnover margin that year."

I agree it seems a good hire. Now if only the fan base can wait for our young players to mature, and us to land some LBs.

This guy has the vote of his former players, not to mention RR - both sets of people much closer to him than anyone here...

Also he has had more success doing this job than our recent previous DCs before taking a job at M...

Probably more likely he sees it as a chance to get back to something he loved doing and was good at, than it is he taking it as he is "in decline"

Lots of premature condemnation. I think better to give the guy a chance to see what he can make happen...

Although I think patience is in order as the crop of young talent we have by and large probably won't be ready to set the earth on fire for a couple years, and still lacks players at key positions such as LB.

1-as mentioned, we have other positions of need, besides, if one goes unused, with all the early enrollies we are getting these days, there is a chance to use it on a guy coming in next winter (they can count against either year's limit)

2-too much depth would be result in someone languishing on the bench (either him, or another schollie athlete) - which is bad for morale

3-if the guy really wanted to go to UM, I am sure they would love to have him walk on, and he could earn a schollie if he really warranted one

I never said shafer consults barwis on anything. There is no reason not to believe he doesn't have a sideline job though. Making sure the correct guys are in on subs is an easy enough job for anyone, and yet an important one. If he is a hype man, this would be logical as he could also hype up the ingoing unit. And if someone wasn't in on time, or weren't where they were supposed to be, I would imagine he would get in their face.

Either way, you are just speculating, as am I. Pointless.

Someone got in stewarts and thompsons face. Get over it. They aren't little babies, they can handle it.

Junior tailback Brandon Minor, who scored Michigan's only touchdown, said: "You can't really blame Rich Rod because everybody on the team did not buy in like they're supposed to. We have a couple of guys not going hard. We'll correct that most definitely. That ain't going to happen on my watch as a senior."

I agree that I thought he should have been retained... However, as another poster suggested, without good DL/LB play, it is hard to generate good secondary results. Bedford had a record of good secondaries during his years at UM and with the Bears, however, all those units usually had pretty good DL/LB groups up front.

Also, I think I read that he had a prior relationship with Meyer... So when the change came, he probably saw an opportunity down at UF.

I liked the idea of keeping WR coach Campbell (who went to Iowa) too. He had probably a stronger record of production of players for UM. But lets face it, without a competent OL/QB, it probably wouldn't have made a difference.

Brian - keep in mind that if a fight breaks out, they don't often get broken up after one punch (see Dazed and Confused). Throwing (empty plastic) bottles isn't setting a good example, and won't lead to anything good, much less changing idiotic boo'ers behavior. I do commend you for trying to take a stand against them. Just wish you had found a better way to do it.

Irony - I am willing to bet most (not all) of the people booing the loudest are the same people that were the most vocal about getting Carr out of the HC position... Many of us wished for a coach that would go long before the end of a half when we are behind, and then these people boo when that play is picked off...

I might have been one of the few fans that wasn't mad. The cupboards were bare or close to it at way too many positions for good things to happen this season. And then throw in a new system, all new coaches, etc.

It has been a long time since a you could say we have had a steady succession of players ready to take over at key positions like OL, LB, CB, S, etc. How many times in the past 5+ years have we kept our fingers crossed that some player would miraculously step from previous mediocre performance to fill a glaring void in the roster? And now the fruits of that mismanagement of recruting has finally come to bear. This was coming regardless. The change in coaching just brought it forward sooner.

The only people that are entitled to good performances are those who try to spur the team on to greater thing through blind support. The people that make noise on 3rd downs, the ones who spell out a giant M in the stadium etc. People who tune in across the country regardless of the teams record. Players play for people like that, not for whiney bitches that boo every time they get their panties in a bunch.

If you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem. Support our guys out there or give up your tickets for the real fans. And don't come back when things turn around. We don't want you, and I bet the players and coaches don't either.

I don't agree with everything that has happend in the coaching change. I wanted them to retain bedford and campbell, maybe english. But I still will support my team no matter what.

I don't know what the rights were on the original moon photo (unaltered was with an american flag).

I will post it up again if anyone wants it. Give me a day or two.

I would say just don't take credit for the photoshop, but someone from some where else will pass it off as their own somewhere down the line (as people have done with my mgovideo game postings, although it hasn't stopped me from sharing)

They stood atop the big11 at the end, but let's face it, they beat MSU by 7, lost to Illinois, and ultimately beat a crippled/no-offense M team 14-3. Really if it weren't for myriad of failed contenders (Oregon putting out USC then Dixon going down, Mizzou beating KU then losing to OU), and the non-draw of an all SEC NC, they probably would not have gotten the trip to the BCS game.

Boeckman has never been that impressive, and as has been said, without beanie, they really don't have an offense at all. If beanie has extended injury issues this season, they could have a disaster of a year.