Dave, I hope you know I was just being funny (trying) with the *******-show comment, a belated apology if that was over the top!

It isn't at the top of my to-do list, but I do plan to fool around with your method more if I get access to a good bumper set. Bar position might be a factor in the over-the head part, sometimes I carry the bar pretty low.

One other thing about the dropping the bar method: if you ever want your gym to offer you a refund and release you from your contract, go in and practice this during rush hour. PRICELESS.