In a vehicle? I was reading through another thread and some were saying you have to have long guns in a locked case? IIRC only RAW's need to be locked or did I miss out on a new law? Thanks for any input. c good

Not yet.... (excluding Fed GFSZ's, CAGFSZ ignores Long Guns per CGF Wiki) Has anyone ever been charged with violating that law? Do you need to get a traffic ticket from the FBI first....?

Wont Portintanpotino or whatever that useless douchebags name is, long gun open carry law change that? I dont lock my long gun cases for transport to the range etc... Sometimes I just throw them in back with a shemagh over them.

I suppose I can finally use all those trigger locks I have to lock cases...

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Transporting
It is legal to transport your handgun to anyplace where it is legal to possess.
Penal Code provides an exemption for transporting a handgun concealed; typically one uses a completely enclosed locked container to transport an unloaded handgun. Trigger locks, cable locks and other devices are not useful to avoid violating the concealed weapon law.
Ammunition may be carried in that locked container, in magazines or speed loaders, so long as no ammunition is actually in the handgun.
The container may be carried anywhere in a vehicle; transport is not restricted to a trunk.Aside from 'registered assault weapons', California requires only that long guns be unloaded when transported - no lock or case required. Federal law regarding school zones requires that long guns be in a locked container or a locking gun rack while passing through those 1000 foot zones.
Other than 'assault weapons', for vehicle transport there are no 'destination' or 'route' limits so long as it is legal to possess a firearm en route or at the destination.

Not accurate. Under AB 1527 long guns will need to be either in a locked container or encased in a container made to transport firearms which fully encloses the firearm and zips, snaps, buckles, etc.

Of course, you still have the Federal GFSZ issue to deal with.

What am I missing in the semantics? Does "or encased in a container made to transport firearms which fully encloses the firearm and zips, snaps, buckles, etc." mean it does not have to be locked just cased such that no part of it is visible?

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What am I missing in the semantics? Does "or encased in a container made to transport firearms which fully encloses the firearm and zips, snaps, buckles, etc." mean it does not have to be locked just cased such that no part of it is visible?

Presuming the Governor signs the thing, yes.

Quote:

SEC. 4. Section 16505 is added to the Penal Code, to read:
16505. For purposes of Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 26400)
of Division 5 of Title 4, a firearm is "encased" when that firearm is
enclosed in a case that is expressly made for the purpose of
containing a firearm and that is completely zipped, snapped, buckled,
tied, or otherwise fastened with no part of that firearm exposed.

and

Quote:

26405. Section 26400 does not apply to, or affect, the carrying
of an unloaded firearm that is not a handgun in any of the following
circumstances:
...
(c) When the firearm is either
in a locked container
or encased
and it is being transported directly between places where a person is
not prohibited from possessing that firearm and the course of travel
shall include only those deviations between authorized locations as
are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

And no, there is no definition to clarify "those deviations between authorized locations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances."

What am I missing in the semantics? Does "or encased in a container made to transport firearms which fully encloses the firearm and zips, snaps, buckles, etc." mean it does not have to be locked just cased such that no part of it is visible?

Correct. It does not have to lock under AB 1527, as long as it is a case designed to transport a firearm, the firearm is fully enclosed by the case, and the case fastens in some manner.

And no, there is no definition to clarify "those deviations between authorized locations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances."

Great more vague language allowing LEOs to do as they please: you get the ride and pay for legal costs and they get to laugh about it in the break room with no consequences.

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26405. Section 26400 does not apply to, or affect, the carrying
of an unloaded firearm that is not a handgun in any of the following
circumstances:
...
(c) When the firearm is
either
in a locked container
or
encased
and it is being transported directly between places where a person is
not prohibited from possessing that firearm and the course of travel
shall include only those deviations between authorized locations as
are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

Since the restriction is based on possession, not use, isn't this extremely broad? It seems that any trip that doesn't involve a secure area is protected.

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Since the restriction is based on possession, not use, isn't this extremely broad? It seems that any trip that doesn't involve a secure area is protected.

True - it's the 'deviations between authorized locations' that have long been unclear.

Example: you want to drive from Concord to Oroville to use a range up there. Your home is 'authorized'; the range is 'authorized'. Can you stop for gas? for lunch? to visit a friend? to shop at the Vacaville outlet mall?

True - it's the 'deviations between authorized locations' that have long been unclear.

Example: you want to drive from Concord to Oroville to use a range up there. Your home is 'authorized'; the range is 'authorized'. Can you stop for gas? for lunch? to visit a friend? to shop at the Vacaville outlet mall?

Nobody knows for sure.

My read is that since you are authorized (as in not prohibited by state law; businesses may ask you to leave) to possess a long gun at all the locations listed and pretty much anywhere in the state besides government buildings, airports, and publicly accessible property in school zones, the prohibition lacks teeth unless you stop at one of a few unauthorized locations. Even then, you could do your business in the courthouse while your long gun stayed in the car on the street. The only issue I see is if your destination is publicly accessible property in a school zone, ie you park in front of your friend's apartment and walk across the sidewalk with your gun, in a school zone. Even then maybe not, because your end destination, the inside of the apartment, is authorized.

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16505.
For purposes of Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 26400) of Division 5 of Title 4, a firearm is “encased” when that firearm is enclosed in a case that is expressly made for the purpose of containing a firearm and that is completely zipped, snapped, buckled, tied, or otherwise fastened with no part of that firearm exposed.