LE

Not condoning anything - just pointing out that there's nothing new under the sun - and perhaps what's his face's stick poking needs to be put in context.........or you could just take the DM attitude that the modern world is the end of days

LE

I'm not so sure of that. In the flower of my military career (Aldershot, early 70s), the singlies in the block tended to gather together in social group activity, while the pads, as they had other priorities and the washing up to do, were usually excluded. Unit cohesion, whether anyone likes it or not, suffers. The most cohesive groups I ever met were living together and under fairly severe social restrictions (NI roulement bods). I am reliably informed by a serving soldier that that sort of scenario is wholly of the past; the unit bar is a dead duck, mealtimes are dismally under-represented and at weekends the bomb-burst to anywhere within travel-warrant range is complete. Separate small groups of the various Identitarian classes exist, and don't mingle too much. Not good, and although I don't agree with @stacker1 on a great deal, in this he is right; it is a serious leadership issue.

Borrowed the wife’s IPad as she has loads of Audio books , so plenty to listen to as driving across France is very boring, after one or two crap ones started with one called .. “ The Butterfly Effect”.

Had no idea what it was about but perked up when the start mentioned Porn.

Superb reporting about how the internet and streaming porn has changed the world.

One man who started it is a billionaire.

Male porn stars , in a room with a female porn star , who is up for anything ? Need to watch porn? To get a hard on? No more fluffers.

One eye opener was the American Navy has a serious problem with wanking.

Single and married men , stop work at 17:00. Go back to their rooms/ bunks/ home and seem to masturbate for 6 to 8 hours.

ADC

The social thing, be it SLAM or internet has nothing to do with chubby cnuts. Other armies have had single rooms and internet connection long before the British army tried to play catch up.
Weak officers are the main cause of fattyitis because they dont do **** all about it.

I was working in Army Estates during SLAM....the issue of ' Unit cohesion' was a constant theme of discussion and angst.

The compromise was to keep trainees in shared accom but to entitle 'trained soldiers' to Type Z = one man, one room own shower and toilet.
Which, by the way, was pretty much the RAF norm at the time.

The idea was that the block 'hub' was where people would congregate out of hours, much like the mess square described by Supermatelot above.

I've lived on a messdeck and in an 8 man room - there's not that much difference, apart from the fact that matelots have generally less space. Oh, and the 8 man room doesn't go up and down and side to side

First RN ship I served in had 12 JRs in the Tech rates forward mess and 14 in the Seamans mess - served by one bathrooms with 4 traps....cosy. It was also made of wood....

Take that old, outdated and empty Mess, refurb a section of it for 'Unit Hub', run by the PMC, not privately, and get your consoles, cinema room, facilities, etc so the lads have somewhere modern and relevant to congregate of an evening.

But nah.

Edit: Actually, I'd like to know what's going on in the hub at Pirbright now.

LE

I was working in Army Estates during SLAM....the issue of ' Unit cohesion' was a constant theme of discussion and angst.

The compromise was to keep trainees in shared accom but to entitle 'trained soldiers' to Type Z = one man, one room own shower and toilet.
Which, by the way, was pretty much the RAF norm at the time.

The idea was that the block 'hub' was where people would congregate out of hours, much like the mess square described by Supermatelot above.

I've lived on a messdeck and in an 8 man room - there's not that much difference, apart from the fact that matelots have generally less space. Oh, and the 8 man room doesn't go up and down and side to side

First RN ship I served in had 12 JRs in the Tech rates forward mess and 14 in the Seamans mess - served by one bathrooms with 4 traps....cosy. It was also made of wood....

Last time I was at excellent was in 99-2000 for leadership course. Old WW2 accom I think. Twenty man dorms. No time to socialise though so wasn't really an issue. On completion of leadership course I got drafted to Nelson for an NBCD24 continuation course (gasmask check, damage control drills etc for you pongoes). I was to be accommodated on HMS Bristol - which turned out to be overun with sea cadets. I immediately "booked out" and sought accom at Nelson...Transit mess Suamaris block. As I arrived I was mindful of a loud crashing sound to my side...as a TV had been launched through one of the windows. I joined a transit mess in an adjoining cabin to a dorm occupied by some submariner types who had misbehaved in some way (had to stand rounds in their Nos 1s etc). I was advised to turn my mattress over as, due to the window in my cabin not closing fully - was covered in pigeon shit.

Happy times...

I speak as a single mother & a junior doctor so you are morally obliged to agree with me, or at least be seen to agree with me to further your virtue signalling.

MIA

serious question gents, What does your RSMs do now?
is it not part and parcel of their job to keep an eye on the troops welfare ,discipline and health and general state of the regiment? or do they now spend their time preening for when they get LE?

LE

serious question gents, What does your RSMs do now?
is it not part and parcel of their job to keep an eye on the troops welfare ,discipline and health and general state of the regiment? or do they now spend their time preening for when they get LE?

LE

serious question gents, What does your RSMs do now?
is it not part and parcel of their job to keep an eye on the troops welfare ,discipline and health and general state of the regiment? or do they now spend their time preening for when they get LE?