The Dregs Of American Society

April 16, 2009

Comrade PhysioProf walked through one of these wackaloon teabagger parties yesterday. Looking at and listening to the people in attendance, it was abundantly clear that they represent the most ignorant stone-cold-fucking-stupid dregs of the dregs of remaining sewage of the sick-fuck right wing of American society. These selfish whiny pig people are repugnant to decent Americans.

I don’t understand how people can scream angry against paying taxes without also realizing that no one paying those taxes means no government services. I expect that some libertarian anarchists do realize this, but I find that most probably do not realize that no more taxes would also mean no more public education, no more road repair, no more of their precious homeland security, no one to keep Teh Illegalz from crossing the borders. However, the right wing of the political spectrum does seem to be uniquely gifted at magical thinking and self-deception.

THERE ONCE WAS A REAL TEA PARTY. THEY ACTUALLY DID SOMETHING TO CHANGE THE WORLD OTHER THAN BEING DUPED BY THE ACTUAL BAJILLIONAIRES THEY WERE PROTESTING AGAINST:

“They covered their faces, massed in the streets, and destroyed the property of a giant global corporation. Declaring an end to global trade run by the East India Company that was destroying local economies, this small, masked minority started a revolution with an act of rebellion later called the Boston Tea Party.’ Thom Hartmann

THIS STOOPID TEABAG PARTY ONLY GOES TO SHOW EXACTLY HOW DIRT GULLIBLE AND STUPID SOME PEOPLE REALLY ARE. ONE OF THE FRIGHTENING THINGS IS THEY ARE THE ONES MOST LIKELY TO OWN THOSE FULLY AUTOMATIC ASSAULT RIFLES…

The focus of anti-taxers is always the same which is on their selfish-ass narrowsighted view of what it means to be a functioning community. It boils down to “I want you to pay for what I think is important while I don’t have to pay for what you think is important and try to shirk even my responsibility for the stuff I want others to pay for”.

In short, selfish and antiAmerican. The association with the Boston Tea Party betrays a fundamental ignorance of history and civics.

They don’t seem to realize what a value they’re getting for their measly tax dollars. Road repair, K-12 schooling, running water, police, fire department, DMV, public broadcasting, libraries, park services, mail, public buildings, clinics, scientific research, and much much more for $1000 a year? That’s NOTHING. We are damn spoiled compared to 75% of the world, and yet people still whine.

I do really wish they’d all form their own nation and have to pay out of pocket for all of these luxuries of the first world that we can only provide because of the US’s massive taxable population. Can’t wait till they run into the problem of what to do with all their sewage.

I love the smell of shameless hypocrisy, from juvenile fucking morons. Whiny fucking brats who hate these goddamn taxes and all that pork, when it’s not the guys they elected in charge.

Oh wait, their guys just like to spend without tax revenue to fucking cover it. Because everybody knows that deficit spending is sustainable – and Santa comes at Christmas, the Easter bunny just last Sunday, the tooth fairy when they loose a tooth.

The motherfucking deficit fairy will just make all that debt disappear. All we have to do is Believe – if all of us Believe really fucking hard, I’m sure we can make it work.

AreWeNotMen? — is that a reference to Devo, or to the 1930s film adaptation of The Island of Dr. Moreau?

There are certain fundamental things about economics that everyone — and I mean everyone — understands. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.

Are you a liar?

Because if you claim to oppose the stimulus package, you’re either an idiot, or you’re an evil force devoted to the destruction of contemporary civilization.

Those are the only possibilities.

I think you’re evil. Prove to me that you’re an honest idiot. Do it. Lay your shit on the table so we can all see how stupid you are. If you can’t do that, admit that you want to see civilization fail.

There is no room here for honest people to disagree. Either you’re an idiot, or you’re evil. Which is it?

Being against the bailouts might be slightly less hypocritical if at least some of them hadn’t been engineered by W and Treas. I know the TBs aren’t very smart, and they wouldn’t figure Fox is, but it’s kind of insulting to assume that other people are slackjawed morons with a three-second attention span.

Oh, and I really want to ask the Repubs: If you guys are so against taxes, why have you spent the time in office in the past thirty years spending >$8e12 that you didn’t have? (Deficits during Reagan, Bush, and W). Where do you guys think the money comes from? Oh, and someone else is supposed to strip government naked (didn’t the bailouts indicate that strategy didn’t work? oops.) to pay for your dishonesty when you weren’t able to?

I am finding it difficult to see the Rs as anything other than either stupid or evil. I no longer see another alternative that is consistent with their words and actions. Although if they keep this up, maybe there are some more sexual innuendos they can suggest as protests. At least they’d be amusing.

I see that your major response to those of us who oppose spending trillions of dollars we don’t have (no matter which party’s doing it) is profane name-calling. Nice.

I’m a proud “dreg” who feels that government ought to do as we private citizens and businesspeople do – operate within our means. And no, I’m not against all taxes – we “idiots” realize that necessary public services have to be paid for. I don’t count bailing out failing corporations a necessary public service.

Further, I’m not even a libertarian. I’m just a middle of the road hardworking citizen with a postgraduate degree who’s concerned about the direction this country is taking. And I’ll be at a tea party later today.

What?! where did you get this figure? It must be some kind of magical average (includes the 50% who don’t pay any taxes, and all the part timers perhaps) because I paid more than that on a grad student stipend.

It’s corporations, that pay far less taxes than they used to, that have caused many societal problems, as I see it. This is the blind spot of many non-rich republicans. But mocking people etc is not helping to get the message out.

Paying taxes is part of the social contract in which we, as civilized people, agree to take care of each other and share a common infrastructure. The institution of that contact is called government.

The Teabaggers seem to resent very much that any portion of their income go to benefit the greater social good (e.g., stabilizing the economy and creating jobs), but they still want the infrastructure. The problem is that no one can have it both ways.

If they don’t like it, perhaps they should move to Somalia.

This brings up the question of why we are seeing these kinds of protests from the right-wing. Progressives can vent their political frustration by dreaming about and threatening to move to a more liberal country. This is easy because all the other First World countries are very progressive and secular. Therefore no change in the standard of living is required. Conservatives, on the other hand, have nowhere to dream of going. Conservative governments are usually poor and provide little by way of either infrastructure or social services. Therefore a massive downgrade in the standard of living would be required for conservatives. This makes it hard and undesirable, so they begin to roll out dishonest and inflammatory rhetoric.

Because while you, like many of my friends and colleagues, may be a simple tax protester (however misguided that may be), these rallies are fueling, sometimes overtly, hate. As far as treason, well, simply look at the speeches from Perry, Faux, and others about secession, and check out the nasty stuff about wanting guns to shoot at the guv’mint.

As to racist, just check out the anti-obama signs—they’re not about policy, they say shit like “go back to Kenya, Hussen!”

As to anti-semitic, once the other stuff gets rolling, baiting the Jews is never far behind. The militia, “ZOMG, ZOG’s GONNA GET US” crowd is out in force, feeling liberated by the spirit of it all.

This doesn’t make my anti-tax friends treasonous racist antisemites, but it should make them wonder why they have attracted such fellow travelers.

I had to wade through a group of them too. It’s a job hazard where I work. They usually ignore me and I them, but this time, I had to deal with people who were openly hostile. One gave me an earful about taxes, and I asked them if they liked having the police come when they called them, and clean water and safe roads, or schooling for their kids.

ok I get it. everyone who is against the bailouts is “misguided” and needs to examine why they find themselves associated with nuts who want a high standard of living but want to pay zero taxes. Case closed.

Sorry but I think that is as simplistic and shallow an analysis as the worst sort of thinking you are against.

People are really angry about the bailouts and the stimulus plan. They have been angry for a long(pre-Obama) time. A lot of the anger in California is aimed at the republican governer. The CA state income tax is high, and just increased. I could go on and on…

People know they are being laughed at for the teabagging thing and it just makes them angrier. It makes you feel better, but it doesn’t help the overall situation, it makes it worse. In my opinion.

We should CARE about the concerns of working people.

Anti-war demonstrations can be portrayed just as badly, by focusing on bland hippie stereotypes (who look like they don’t have jobs) and anarchists…

Someone has to be the bigger person, who breaks the impasse and reaches out.

“AreWeNotMen? — is that a reference to Devo, or to the 1930s film adaptation of The Island of Dr. Moreau?”

Devo, though I was aware of the source also. Did you catch the other two devo references in the thread?

“There is no room here for honest people to disagree. Either you’re an idiot, or you’re evil. Which is it?”

HP, I really didn’t understand the rest of your message. This bailing out of banks and other giant corporations seems pretty radical. Seems weird to allow no dissent about it. Is this supposed to be satire?

Umm…from what I see the main objection isn’t that people are protesting the bailouts, but that these tea parties degenerated into conservatives going and protesting Obama/The Democrats/evil!Liberals and waving signs for their favourite pet topics like no taxes, firearms for all, etc. and generally acting like paranoid, hateful conservatives (or were they like this from the start?).

I’ll admit that my views might be skewed as I’m in another country and all I know I learned from the media and the internets.

Well, numbnuts, since the same masses who are vehemently protesting the bailouts are many of those who unquestioningly endorsed the previous president and his policies, it might be relevant that some of the same policies they now protest were the ones they unquestioningly supported when it was their man in office.

ok I get it. everyone who is against the bailouts is “misguided” and needs to examine why they find themselves associated with nuts who want a high standard of living but want to pay zero taxes. Case closed.

If they would look at the source of the “protests” to see that they are Gingrich’s tools, and then rail at him, too, then we would take them a bit more seriously.

Just because there are a lotta cumstains too selfish to pay their way in the works doesn’t make them any less silly. The fact they are mad at a repub Gov makes it even clearer that they are living in fantasy magic fairy land.

Well, I’m guessing some people have actually seen these things live and therefore have better basis for criticizing them. And in my defense, my sources are all “fair and balanced” since I’ve become addicted to The Right Fangirl (I’ve never seen such a concentrated level of stupid before and it’s glorious).

Sorry, WAA, I can’t help it that you lack reading comprehension skills. If you’d stop writing PR and read documents with actual content, you might be able to tell the difference. There isn’t much information there (and lots of opinion) but there is some.