I don't think anyone would claim NZ wouldn't have won if Taylor was there, but there's no way the team would be in the absolute sorry state of affairs they were leading into this tour if it wasn't for Hesson. If you can't see that, you can't see anything.

There's a huge difference between acknowledging the difference Taylor would've made in the batting line up, and using his absence as the reason for why we were bowled out for 45. That's what Hurricane is doing, and I disagree with him. I'm not a Hesson fan at all. Taylor should absolutely still be captain.

Nah he's always been an out and out swing bowler, just lost it the last few months.

I first saw him in the Champions league with CD, he seemed to get swing then, but since then he seemed to be a more into the deck seam bowler. Trying to think back to his match winning spell against Aust as to whether he got more wickets due to seam or swing. I can't recall.

I first saw him in the Champions league with CD, he seemed to get swing then, but since then he seemed to be a more into the deck seam bowler. Trying to think back to his match winning spell against Aust as to whether he got more wickets due to seam or swing. I can't recall.

Well that deck was a greenie, so it was both iirc, but domestically his main weapon was always swing. It's only since coming into the Black Caps that the hit the deck traditional third seamer role has been trialled with him.

Originally Posted by Athlai

Jeets doesn't really deserve to be bowling.

Originally Posted by Dan

in the future where we're all social justice-y Cribb can ride down the street to pick up some raw milk from Coles on a motorised esky while smoking meth, firing an RPG into the air, and carrying the case of British-import Stella he's polygamously (and privately) married alongside a genderfluid Zambian businessperson and a coke-snorting 18-year-old cyborg girl.

Hey all, I just woke up from a nightmare where we were bowled out for 45.

How's the real match going?

85.5
Boult to Mathews, OUT, Caught at second slip! It was a length ball going across Angelo, who tried to hit it hard towards the leg side and got an outside edge that flew fast towards Guptill, who took a reflex catch in front of his face

I first saw him in the Champions league with CD, he seemed to get swing then, but since then he seemed to be a more into the deck seam bowler. Trying to think back to his match winning spell against Aust as to whether he got more wickets due to seam or swing. I can't recall.

Both. Some deliveries would swing like the one that got Huss, others jagged sharply like the one to castle Lyon.

Originally Posted by Jimmy Neesham

Root always sets up the innings well. It's nice having BJ down the order to finish the innings off.