Yeah for now. I figure at my weight it's just not going to give me the gains I'm looking for. So, I'm going to really bulk for a while. When I get near 230 or 240 eventually and I've put some extra fat on with the muscle, then I'll probably return to the AD shed the fat and keep most of my muscle.

Posting that picture was just mean! lol My diet looks boring, but thats only because of lack of effort/time on my part. Usually just chicken/turkey lots of steamed veggies sometimes some lowfat cottage cheese or brown rice.. Makes that brownie thing look VERY tempting. =)

Posting that picture was just mean! lol My diet looks boring, but thats only because of lack of effort/time on my part. Usually just chicken/turkey lots of steamed veggies sometimes some lowfat cottage cheese or brown rice.. Makes that brownie thing look VERY tempting. =)

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i know exactly what you mean. for the longest time i would eat just plain hamburgers (no bun). one day my meals looked like this: bacon eggs for breakfast, like 5 hamburgers spread throughout the day, a whey pro. shake, and a 1.5 cups of cottage cheese.

my problem was i just knew the calories of it and could get so much ground beef for cheap and make like 4 patties at a time. luckily im young so i still live at home which means when someone ELSE goes shopping they buy dif. shit so i have variety. this week ive since broadened my horizons to include pork chops, salami, ham and roast beef..oh and the "good" american cheese, not that kraft shit.

Poor Steve......I know ur pain. Over the summer I just didnt feel like working out at all, I was in a different state of mind and to make a long story short I just didnt wanna do shit. I ate whatever I wanted to. I killed countless amounts of fried food at my job and just pretty much whatever I could touch id eat. I drank shit loads of beer every night and just lounged around. 3 1/2 months later I looked IDENTICAL to the way I did before all of this. And I weighed EXACTLY the same.

I got a hard time gaining weight too. Lucky thing for most ppl though is that if you just wanna bulk up you can gorge on 1,000 calorie per serving junk food and shit and gain the lbs. Me I can eat 5,000 calories worth of shit and drink 1500 calories worth of alcohol everyday for 3 months and not gain a single pound. Hell I wont even look any different. Thats the shit that made me almost give up working out cuz I felt that Im not getting bigger by working out and Im not getting smaller if I stop....so whats the point? Then I caught a god damn cold for the first time in years the other week and was like ok time to hit the gym again.

^^that doesn't sound right lol.......hell if u work out for months and see NO difference either ur being lazy in there or ur doing ur reps totally wrong with super light weights...but even then u should see SOME difference...damn wtf

either that or ur so overweight u can't see any difference...blah

it baffles me man...I mean yeah I progress slowly but I can see the gains. just push urself to the limit man cuz u have to if u want that lean look.

your diet was probably terrible all the time if u saw no difference in when u work out and don't.

my diet is simple..as FUCK lol
drink only water.....1 glass of milk a day
eat only fruits, veggies, and meats
TRY not to eat junk food.
^^^that's the basics. everything else I try to keep to a minimum but I still eat it...like breads I eat...and whatever my mom cooks I will eat but the main thing u have to do is cut SUGARS!!!!!

u need fats in ur diet anyway cuz we are people who work out...so it will turn into muscle in the end. but sugars don't really do shit except please ur sweet tooth lol. I usually have like..idk..a candy bar once a week or a piece of cake.

more water, no junk food + working out=easiest way to lose unwanted fat IMO

fat doesnt turn into muscle dude, two completely different substances. its like saying rocks can turn into potatoes.

easiet way to lose fat, scientifically, is to have a diet that doesnt combine fat with carbohydrates that store it, and besides, carbs have water retention also so youre getting fucked twice if you combine them. so go fat with protein, or protein with carbs, but never go carbs+fat, its worse than ass to mouth.

it seems like a lot of us are on the same boat as far as body composition. for me, i never really gained a lot of weight from working out which is kinda weird because of how much bigger i look than before i started, i mean i used to be fuckin skinnnnnnnnny as shit @160-165 im now @165-170 but i look 0-30 pounds heavier and its also much harder for people like us (im assuming yall are "ectomorphs" too) to gain weight and have the appearance of being in better shape, because we're longer limbed and have much higher metabolisms. meaning that if we want to get in shape we have to do waaaaay more work than larger boned shorter people.

Burna your friend is a great example of the opposite. someone who is short and stocky (165@ 5' 5 is fuckin big) and can easily do things like benching becasue of pure mechanics, smaller arms = less distance to move a weight and muscle is also much easier to be noticeable on a smaller frame especially when hes not burning as many calories naturally so hes able to put them to use of building muscle and providing energy.

p.s. GK is absolutely right about sugars, theyre vile bastards that will make you look and feel shitty. the worst thing about my carb-ups is that carb products contain so many of them. ive learned whats good and bad to eat through experience but man, it wasnt fun learning the hard way, id feel like strait up shit, id store tons of extra water, and it even caused pimples.