We end up screaming and shouting at each other "you are a racist" or "you are lying about me being racist" instead of just saying "People, we come from a past where racism coloured everything that we did,".

So let us acknowledge that it has left these ghosts hanging over us. And if we give them a name and we acknowledge that we are influenced by the inferiority and superiority that came with racism then we'll be able to head-on tackle the structures that racism have left behind.

Briefly.co.za learned from the interview that Ramphele also talked about the importance of South Africans knowing the Constitution and following it.

She added that South Africans need to follow the aims and purpose of the Constitution. Ramphele feels this will lay the foundation for a democratic country.

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