man, i KNEW i'd read this somewhere. i just found it again. i made a bowthe other day with animal print spandex. i bonded the spandex to grosgrain ribbon using HnB. i gave it to my neighbor and now, after reading the below, i'm wondering if the spandex is going to separate.

so, do you bond the fabric to iron on vinyl INSTEAD of to ribbon or do you use the iron on vinyl to bond the fabric to the ribbon?

so confused. thanks!!

sandy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blkhawkfan

Woodkins:
I've been using a combination of HnB or vinyl n glue for various bows I make. I never use glue on fabric unless the fabric has been bonded to iron on vinyl first. It seems like a lot of steps, but it's not really, and the E6000 + vinyl combination for any fabrics I use has never come apart, even with a season's worth of wearing. (Side note: the whole reason I got started with making cheer bows: My daughter has two bows from a large bow company who's initials may or may not be PB that you can clearly see the glue underneath the white seqiun, red mystique, and silver mystique fabrics. Not all were dark, see through glue lines, but more like you could see lumpy, squiggly lines of the glue under the fabric. Especially since the mystique catches the light and reflects it, you could really see the lines under the gym lites.)
If the mystique is the first layer, then I use HB Ultra to bond the fabric to the base ribbon (ironed on the front and back sides, about 15 sec a side - use a cloth between iron n fabric when ironing the top side). If spandex is the next layer, then I bond my fabric to the vinyl, then cut to the width (or wave) I need, then glue the fabric/vinyl piece to the base layer, be it fabric or ribbon. This not only gives the fabric a little body, but it has a solid base so it won't stretch during the gluing process or allow the glue to show through.

Sequins always get HnB lite to the same-color ribbon, then glued onto the next layer, if any. Plain GG gets HnB ultra, for the most part. i usually try to limit sequin layers to HnB lite, but I tried that once with a zebra ribbon with icky results, so you never know....
Hope this answers your questions!
ShelleighGet your cheer on!