No, I just think the temptation to blur the intellectual property into one overarching 'franchise' stifles creativity in the pursuit of uniformity. Comics tell superior stories to the movies which derive from them, in my opinion, because they are unencumbered by the need to safely manage huge budgets and vast international audiences. They can be inventive and take risks. If the comics ape the movies, then they are being derivative of something derivative.

I'm just not interested in that.

I would actually agree with you if you weren't talking about some of the worst comics in Batman's history.

But i understand the feeling because that's one of the biggest problems with movie adaptations (sometimes based on very pedantic comics)...they are extremely limited of having to be derivative.

That's the main reason Nolan elevates the material. He breaks the stupid bubble.

Cool find Joker, thanks for posting. I'm not currently reading Detective so I might not have come across that otherwise.

I have no problem with it at all. It in no way tries to imply that the Batman of the comics is the same one as the movies. Using the Tumbler doesn't box the writers in creatively at all, it's simply a choice to an make a nod to something the writer/artist enjoyed from the movies.

I like the idea that each version of Batman doesn't exist entirely in a bubble and there can be some cross pollination.

Cool find Joker, thanks for posting. I'm not currently reading Detective so I might not have come across that otherwise.

I have no problem with it at all. It in no way tries to imply that the Batman of the comics is the same one as the movies. Using the Tumbler doesn't box the writers in creatively at all, it's simply a choice to an make a nod to something the writer/artist enjoyed from the movies.

I like the idea that each version of Batman doesn't exist entirely in a bubble and there can be some cross pollination.

That's exactly what I think

It's not like I felt like I was reading a Nolan Batman story here, or that I expect Batman to be using the Tumbler in every issue now either.

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Did you know who ever make a thread explaining how he knew so much about Nolan's films He said that once the blu ray came out he would create a "tell all" thread. He's provided so much reliable info over the past years, I was really looking forward to his thread.

Also....what was his name? haha I'm honestly drawing a blank. How can I not remember his name? Everyone was always waiting for him to show up and provide info.

That doesn't add up, to me. How exactly can they make a reference to Batman that is emphatically not to Bale's Batman? Will it be the way they pronounce it? How are we supposed to infer that something different is conveyed in what will presumably be a simple name-drop of an off-screen character?

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They can make a reference to Batman having captured someone that we didn't see in Nolan's trilogy. I think that would be enough for anyone to think it's not Nolan's Batman since his version only "worked" a year's time and that was dedicated to the mob outside of the villains we see in the films.

Sure, but objectively a reference to 'Batman' is just a reference to 'Batman', no? Unless the entity is rebuilt substantively then it can't be assumed to have derogated from how it was previously understood.

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I think it's more the tubes they have to work on. They should make the tubing more subdued sort of how it looks like on TDKR Bane's mask and not these flailing protruding tubes that are such an obvious weakness.