"It's all about winning for me, and I think the Cavs are committed to doing that," he said. "But at the same time I've given myself options to this point, and like I said before, me and my team, we have a game plan that we're going to execute, and we'll see what we get."

No word yet on whether the guitar case in the passenger seat contained a shotgun.

"At least the Scots didn't have to tune in with the rest of the country and watch their women get plowed by Longshanks and his men."~Commodore Perry on the difference between baseball's flawed economics : Indians :: prima nocta : Scots

Has some face lacerations, otherwise he is OK supposedly and has been released. If you are driving in reverse, out of your own drive way and only hit a fire hydrant and get face lacerations I can only conclude you have something in his hand while driving, something that could cut your face....

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

Hopefully the cuts weren't from when his wife allegedly knocked out the back window to extricate him from the vehicle.

"It's all about winning for me, and I think the Cavs are committed to doing that," he said. "But at the same time I've given myself options to this point, and like I said before, me and my team, we have a game plan that we're going to execute, and we'll see what we get."

don't you just love rampant, unchecked media speculation??? always building people up only to tear them back down again the first chance they get. case in point - tiger woods. the man has led a perfectly pristine life that obviously just makes the media insanely and overtly jealous to the point that since they have had no dirt on this guy whatsoever for his whole existence, they now have to resort to manufacture it artificially (remember when they tried to say they had x-rated photos of elin that turned out to be fake???) and this car accident just gives them even more means to do so.

2:25 am??? the bars all close at 2:30 so then it certainly had to involve alcohol, right??? wrong!!!

next up, domestic violence. tiger beats up his wife and then leaves the house in a fit of rage, right??? wrong!!! elin, obviously concerned for the well being of her husband bashed in the rear window of the suv with a golf club, pulled him to safety out of the vehicle and was hovering over him trying to revive him. not exactly the actions of a battered woman. if anything, she would have bashed "him" with the golf club, not the suv, if that were the case.

next up, tiger's having an affair with some socialite in australia. puh-lease!!! tiger is first and foremost a family man, thick and through. just look at his entire history with his own father and mother and how he so vehemently chastised the media over the fake photos of elin. he would have to completely deny himself to ever resort to such behavior. i seriously doubt that was the case.

what's next, tiger was having withdrawals from "roid rage" and needed to go see his local dentist for a prescription???

hey news media, i have an idea, how about just reporting the car accident and leave it at that??? it was an accident. nothing more, nothing less. no alcohol, no domestic violence, no sordid affair, no juicy back story for tabloid fodder. just an accident. sheesh!!!

Honestly dave, the most logical and likely real world scenario is the alcohol and wife argument story.

Think about it, he is a human being like the rest of us. He is a virtual billionaire, he has everything he needs, why would he need to leave his house at 2am?

Got into a big argument with the wife, had a few drinks in him already, said F this, hopped in the car, wife spasmed and bashed the window in with a golf club, he backed up, crashed, LE gets involved, Tiger says or implies it is worth their while to keep this hush hush.

Maybe maybe not, but it sounds as likely as any other BS we are going to hear as the explanation in the next month.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

FUDU wrote:Honestly dave, the most logical and likely real world scenario is the alcohol and wife argument story.

Think about it, he is a human being like the rest of us. He is a virtual billionaire, he has everything he needs, why would he need to leave his house at 2am?

Got into a big argument with the wife, had a few drinks in him already, said F this, hopped in the car, wife spasmed and bashed the window in with a golf club, he backed up, crashed, LE gets involved, Tiger says or implies it is worth their while to keep this hush hush.

Maybe maybe not, but it sounds as likely as any other BS we are going to hear as the explanation in the next month.

well, he does have 2 small children. i left my house at 2:00 in the morning once to go to the grocery store and get milk for my crying child and proceeded to run over my own garbage can because it was dark and i was sleepy, not because i was drunk or had a domestic dispute with my wife. are you saying that if i was a billionaire there would have been more to the story???

FUDU wrote:Honestly dave, the most logical and likely real world scenario is the alcohol and wife argument story.

Think about it, he is a human being like the rest of us. He is a virtual billionaire, he has everything he needs, why would he need to leave his house at 2am?

Got into a big argument with the wife, had a few drinks in him already, said F this, hopped in the car, wife spasmed and bashed the window in with a golf club, he backed up, crashed, LE gets involved, Tiger says or implies it is worth their while to keep this hush hush.

Maybe maybe not, but it sounds as likely as any other BS we are going to hear as the explanation in the next month.

well, he does have 2 small children. i left my house at 2:00 in the morning once to go to the grocery store and get milk for my crying child and proceeded to run over my own garbage can because it was dark and i was sleepy, not because i was drunk or had a domestic dispute with my wife. are you saying that if i was a billionaire there would have been more to the story???

I'm saying if you were a billionaire you'd have what ever it was you needed, or would have paid/told somebody to go get it, at 2am.

Tiger might be the greatest golfer ever but it doesn't mean he is impervious to strange behavior when he is bombed. Oh wait next thing is you (or somebody) is going to tell me he doesn't get bombed.

He might be better than me on the golf course, but obviously he is not better than me at getting the car out of the driveway when a bit drunk. Where is my prize?

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

I've been out of town the past four days so I'm just catching up with this story now.

To me, the "she broke out the back window to save me courageously" story seems like a bunch of crap. Here's photos from the scene. The driver's side door appears fine. Why did she have to bust out the back window to drag him out?

idoctribefan wrote:I've been out of town the past four days so I'm just catching up with this story now.

To me, the "she broke out the back window to save me courageously" story seems like a bunch of crap. Here's photos from the scene. The driver's side door appears fine. Why did she have to bust out the back window to drag him out?

It could be a cover up, but it is also the smart thing to do if you husband is unconscious at the wheel and all the doors are locked. She would not bust out his driver's window to possibly further injure him.

idoctribefan wrote:I've been out of town the past four days so I'm just catching up with this story now.

To me, the "she broke out the back window to save me courageously" story seems like a bunch of crap. Here's photos from the scene. The driver's side door appears fine. Why did she have to bust out the back window to drag him out?

It could be a cover up, but it is also the smart thing to do if you husband is unconscious at the wheel and all the doors are locked. She would not bust out his driver's window to possibly further injure him.

Certainly plausible. But if she had to run back inside to get something to get access to the car, why not grab the spare set of keys? Or bust out the backseat passenger side window, reach in and unlock all the doors. I've never owned (or been in) an Escalade so I don't know for sure, but most of those types of SUVs don't have an "unlock" button for all the doors right on the inside of the back door, do they? So she'd have to climb into the vehicle through the busted out window up to the front and then unlock the doors.

"And three of the better guys in franchise history, Daugherty, Z and now Kyrie could get hurt in a rubber room full of cotton balls." - Leadpipe

I have let my family down and I regret those transgressions with all of my heart. I have not been true to my values and the behavior my family deserves. I am not without faults and I am far short of perfect. I am dealing with my behavior and personal failings behind closed doors with my family. Those feelings should be shared by us alone.

Although I am a well-known person and have made my career as a professional athlete, I have been dismayed to realize the full extent of what tabloid scrutiny really means. For the last week, my family and I have been hounded to expose intimate details of our personal lives. The stories in particular that physical violence played any role in the car accident were utterly false and malicious. Elin has always done more to support our family and shown more grace than anyone could possibly expect.

But no matter how intense curiosity about public figures can be, there is an important and deep principle at stake which is the right to some simple, human measure of privacy. I realize there are some who don't share my view on that. But for me, the virtue of privacy is one that must be protected in matters that are intimate and within one's own family. Personal sins should not require press releases and problems within a family shouldn't have to mean public confessions.

Whatever regrets I have about letting my family down have been shared with and felt by us alone. I have given this a lot of reflection and thought and I believe that there is a point at which I must stick to that principle even though it's difficult.

I will strive to be a better person and the husband and father that my family deserves. For all of those who have supported me over the years, I offer my profound apology.

"It's all about winning for me, and I think the Cavs are committed to doing that," he said. "But at the same time I've given myself options to this point, and like I said before, me and my team, we have a game plan that we're going to execute, and we'll see what we get."

"At least the Scots didn't have to tune in with the rest of the country and watch their women get plowed by Longshanks and his men."~Commodore Perry on the difference between baseball's flawed economics : Indians :: prima nocta : Scots

....that it was, in fact, the back passenger windows that were busted out with the club. That said, if she really was hauling him out of the vehicle then why bust them out on both sides? The windshield and front windows appear to be fine. Possibly his face was cut up from the glass flying from the backseat windows???

The Smoking Gun also has 20 pics and the 6-page police report of the incident which includes a diagram of the path of his Escalade. Hey Tiger, that pedal on the left is for the brakes. If you press down on it, the car slows down and eventually stops.

"And three of the better guys in franchise history, Daugherty, Z and now Kyrie could get hurt in a rubber room full of cotton balls." - Leadpipe

A great point was brought up today about the sad nature of this story, in regards to people saying the feel sorry that Tiger has to go through with this with his family (or they feel sorry for the family).

When you trot your son or wife out on the course on your famous walk up 18 for one of your historical finishes you yourself have erased the privacy lines in the sand. You cannot have it both ways, introduce your family to the world when your golf career is steam rolling ahead with success but then ask for completely and unconditional privacy when something like comes along in which you took your family problems outside of your own home.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

So the latest is that the authorities arrived at the scene and Tiger was snoring, which means he must have been sleeping. WTF? Yet the same story describes the scene as Tiger's wife and possibly others being at the scene already. So they go out to help Tiger (not having a clue what is going on) and they don't wake him up during this process.

This story is so messed up, not much making sense regardless of which person version you buy into.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

"It's all about winning for me, and I think the Cavs are committed to doing that," he said. "But at the same time I've given myself options to this point, and like I said before, me and my team, we have a game plan that we're going to execute, and we'll see what we get."

Not that it really matters but....................how is it the minute it gets out that El Tigrehas some infidelity issues, the media knows of over ten people, allegedly, that he has been seen with, etc..... How was this not a story before now?

"It's all about winning for me, and I think the Cavs are committed to doing that," he said. "But at the same time I've given myself options to this point, and like I said before, me and my team, we have a game plan that we're going to execute, and we'll see what we get."

"It's all about winning for me, and I think the Cavs are committed to doing that," he said. "But at the same time I've given myself options to this point, and like I said before, me and my team, we have a game plan that we're going to execute, and we'll see what we get."

"It's all about winning for me, and I think the Cavs are committed to doing that," he said. "But at the same time I've given myself options to this point, and like I said before, me and my team, we have a game plan that we're going to execute, and we'll see what we get."