Neil wrote:so will I,,,, the whole thing is a complete load of baloney don't know who thinks these ideas up,, I wonder where your insurance company would be if someone hit you head on at night with 1 headlight flickering 4 bald tyres and no brakes

They'd probably take the same stand as if you had a months MOT left, 1 headlight flickering 4 bald tyres and no brakes.

All they are doing is transferring the complete responsibility of keeping the vehicle roadworthy to the owner with no Government checks.

Even with an MOT test they can only be sure the vehicle is roadworthy for one day a year and if an owner wants to, they can still take their vehicle to a garage once a year for a check.

There aren't that many pre 60 cars about that you would want to run as a daily, pre '77 there's loads, personally I can make an objective judgement as to my own vehicles roadworthyness but for many people who run maybe a 20 year old mondeo that only gets fixed when it fails a test the prospect of buying a £600 shitter that will never need to be fixed as it's mot exempted will be a big attraction.I've seen enough stuff that got run on exemptions until it was absolutely hanging and that was just as showmans / recovery/ works truck/ farmers limited use!

baconsdozen wrote:I'm surprised bent MOTs aren't for sale on ebay along with V5s,DIN and number plates and all the other ringing gear.When it all goes tits up it will be the genuine enthusiast who gets hit.

I'm a MOT Tester and we have just moved premium in East London.

A "foreign" chap came in this week asking for my email address and. ..Do I take PayPal as he wanted to email his car detailsover to get a MOT! Believe me he's not the first....

Following up on this even though it seems most will still get MOTs, the requirements for "substantial change" have now been altered.

It is still up to the owner to say that vehicle has not been subject to "substantial change" to gain MOT exemption - difficult to see how that will work but that is what they have decided.

15% power increase stuff has been scrapped.

Any mods made 30 years previously on a rolling basis will not count towards "substantial change". So mods made prior to 1988 will not count.

Changes to axles will count as "substantial change" except if they improve safety - so disc brakes on early Mk1's should by OK but I would suspect Mk3 axles in Mk1 & 2s would count as change.

Most importantly, engines that are changed to what was in production at the time will not count as change, neither will capacity increase of same type of engine. So putting Essex V6 in Mk1 should be OK.

bulls in transit wrote:Reads like Lhd to Rhd conversions are not going to be able to be tested as historic with that change of type (within ten years of end of production) clause

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how will they know if its been swapped? most just buy the historic scrapper and swap the lot

Databases?,same way as when I give my chassis no to motomobil they send me parts for a LHD mk1(correct threads etc). Though the same ‘how will they know’ here in Spain(but was pretty confident as vans original) at the start of registering/testing it as Historic here,12 month’s later it’s through,but during process came pretty obvious they had details they were matching to van during process,know it’s a different country but information has no boarders(obviously don’t know if the same german testing equipment is coming to a test centre near you),but assuming someone else is ignorant of facts just makes you the ignorant party