a second rounder would be very nice for next years draft. But seeing maroney garnered only a 5th rounder kind of worrys me. But minnesota really needs a good wr. HOpe its true. PRaying for a 2nd rounder. Will be happy with a third rounder.

a second rounder would be very nice for next years draft. But seeing maroney garnered only a 5th rounder kind of worrys me. But minnesota really needs a good wr. HOpe its true. PRaying for a 2nd rounder. Will be happy with a third rounder.

Well, the Vikings gave the Chiefs a 1st, two 3rd's, and swapped 6th rounders for Jared Allen who had 3 DUI's.

The Chiefs GM resigned in shame not long afterwords.

VJ only has 2 DUI's, and Allen's last 2 came only 3.5 months apart and he had his suspension reduced to two games....of course he is white (OH NO! HE didn't just pull the race card did he? Oh yes he did).

Losing VJ will be a bigger fail, we won't get as much because the Vikings likely won't have a long term deal done and he will continue to the stud WR he is for several years while we struggle to fill the void we created.

Losing VJ will be a bigger fail, we won't get as much because the Vikings likely won't have a long term deal done and he will continue to the stud WR he is for several years while we struggle to fill the void we created.

I hope this goes through. Cant wait for Vj to be gone not jus for trying to get too much $ but also for being a drunken idiot!!

If he turns into a Johnson or a Roddy white or anything like he has shown in the last 2 years I still wont miss/regret how it had to go down.

Sucks too he deserves to get a bigger than average raise for 3 years at less than 3 mill practialy while he developed into the receiver he thinks he is today. Not sayin VJ isnt great, but for both the seasons he was doin well the one crutch anti charger fan friends would feed me is that anyone who is 6' 6 can outjump a 5' 11 defender for a way high thrown ball. In short jump ball passing is cheating b/c the qb doesnt have to throw as accurate, the receiver doesnt have as much to worry about their defender makin a play on it and so its cheap..

I never agreed with this of course part 17 homerism and part the fact that every time any tall receiver got exposed to excessive jump ball situations the defenders would play off a little and make a solid hit after the jump to try to disrupt the catch. Not good for a lanky receiver to be gettin hit extra hard. I doubt VJ lasts long enuff to be missed as much as fans think.

I know but it appears to me that many fans are remembering VJ incorrectly. He dropped balls, missed passes and did all that. When he caught them it was great because he would run down and make a leaping grab. But he was not perfect, and I think Floyd and Naanee are on the same level he is.

I know but it appears to me that many fans are remembering VJ incorrectly. He dropped balls, missed passes and did all that. When he caught them it was great because he would run down and make a leaping grab. But he was not perfect, and I think Floyd and Naanee are on the same level he is.

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DAMN RIGHT!!

Gotta say Leo you made me chuckle with that one as if you expected every game to be a monsoon of rain no matter where the game. You wont see that many players slip and slide as you did in KC all season long. Its ok also now I understand why alot of PRs throws were to the knees of players, b/c had they fell it was a pic 6 ez. Glad it never was and we only had the 2 turnovers on fumbles.

Looks like this entire matter could be resolved, with Jackson traded, possibly by the end of today. Reading these reports it appears that the compensation will be conditional. How many games he plays and whether the Vikings re-sign him has everything to do with what the Chargers can expect in return. Makes sense and a good move for both teams.

BlazingBolt:

Your conclusion of course, is based not only on the facts of the matter at hand, but the overwhelmingly obvious circumstance that transcends football, permeates every facet of our society and has all throughtout our history. Just wanted you to know, that may be lost on some but not every reader.

Well, the Vikings gave the Chiefs a 1st, two 3rd's, and swapped 6th rounders for Jared Allen who had 3 DUI's.

The Chiefs GM resigned in shame not long afterwords.

VJ only has 2 DUI's, and Allen's last 2 came only 3.5 months apart and he had his suspension reduced to two games....of course he is white (OH NO! HE didn't just pull the race card did he? Oh yes he did).

Losing VJ will be a bigger fail, we won't get as much because the Vikings likely won't have a long term deal done and he will continue to the stud WR he is for several years while we struggle to fill the void we created.

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If the terms of this trade are correct, I'm more concerned about the "long term deal" that needs to get done with VJack in order for the Chargers to get full compensation. This could be a 1yr rental thing, and then when Sidney Rice is healthy they give him his big deal, and send VJack packin.

Not sure I'd take this deal without getting the high draft pick first.

They already have a shitstorm. To say they can't sign one without signing the other is totally ridiculous. The 2 deals are totally independent of each other. If they want McNeil, then talk to the guy.

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Or it might be that they are hoping that McNeil and his agents are willing to move towards the middle given the stance that has been taken, and what occured to Jackson. Trading Jackson should send a very clear message that the Chargers will not be forced into doing what they dont want to do.

Or it might be that they are hoping that McNeil and his agents are willing to move towards the middle given the stance that has been taken, and what occured to Jackson. Trading Jackson should send a very clear message that the Chargers will not be forced into doing what they dont want to do.

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It is hard to get someone to move toward the middle when you won't talk to them and hold a stance of "Sign your tender and wait till after the season to see what happens" (Paraphrased AJ Smith quote).

Until the Chargers are willing to move toward the middle, there is no way McNeil will

I know but it appears to me that many fans are remembering VJ incorrectly. He dropped balls, missed passes and did all that. When he caught them it was great because he would run down and make a leaping grab. But he was not perfect, and I think Floyd and Naanee are on the same level he is.

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Wrong. Not even close to his level. How many recievers have we seen go through here with VJ's talent in the last 10 years?......Zero
I like your optimism though and I hope they prove me wrong.

Wrong. Not even close to his level. How many recievers have we seen go through here with VJ's talent in the last 10 years?......Zero
I like your optimism though and I hope they prove me wrong.

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Wrong? Based on what your opinion? The fact that Rivers threw more to VJ? Fact, Floyd has a greater YAC than VJ. You like VJ, and that is great, but in my honest opinion you are putting him on a pedestal he does not belong on. Shall we agree to disagree?

It is hard to get someone to move toward the middle when you won't talk to them and hold a stance of "Sign your tender and wait till after the season to see what happens" (Paraphrased AJ Smith quote).

Until the Chargers are willing to move toward the middle, there is no way McNeil will

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Seriously do you think there has been no talk? Really? So do you think that McNeil has been calling AJ every day and leaving voice messages because evil AJ wont talk? No. But this is a business. McNeil stated publicly that they were not moving. If you expect the team to do all the moving you are not thinking logically.

None of us know the extent or lack of chatter between the two camps so any of us pontificating on the subject is us spewing pure speculation.