tacf-x wrote:Oh yeah, don't get me started on the number of people that yell various things over the microphones about how the F-35 is garbage and that the US should buy the JAS-39 Gripen or the Eurofighter Typhoon. Oh jeez the stupidity of some people...

Stealth and situational awareness are apparently hard things to incorporate into fighter combat video games -- because I've yet to see one where they make any significant difference in play. As such, said games probably give the impression that the only thing that matters is turn rate and missile load.

In June 2011 the Supreme court ruled that Video Games enjoy the same 1st Amendment Freedom of Speech protections as movies, books, etc. As you are aware, books, movies, articles, etc to not have to get permission or license anything. Often, manufactures will pay to have their hardware shown in movies. This is known as product placement (or did you think that every Transformer is a Chevy)

In Jan 2012 EA filed a preemptive lawsuit against Bell Helicopters due to Bell trying to charge money for Battlefield 3's use of three Bell designs (Cobra, Huey, and Osprey). This will hopefully put the final issue to bed when it is decided.

In June 2011 the Supreme court ruled that Video Games enjoy the same 1st Amendment Freedom of Speech protections as movies, books, etc. As you are aware, books, movies, articles, etc to not have to get permission or license anything. Often, manufactures will pay to have their hardware shown in movies. This is known as product placement (or did you think that every Transformer is a Chevy)

In Jan 2012 EA filed a preemptive lawsuit against Bell Helicopters due to Bell trying to charge money for Battlefield 3's use of three Bell designs (Cobra, Huey, and Osprey). This will hopefully put the final issue to bed when it is decided.

And even more rolls with a little formation flying for good measure. Exciting stuff. So has anyone ever seen this thing doing a high G turn? I'm sure its perfectly capable of it but every video so far has been boring with lots of loud obnoxious music.

There's also the definition of supercruise to worry about. Some say it's at least mach 1.5 or it doesn't count. At that mach number you're well outside the transonic regime with all of the normal shock formations and stuff so that means you are legitimately cruising at supersonic speeds. In that sense I am not sure even with all of the MIL thrust F-135 gives. Higher bypass ratio and larger fan diameter translates to higher tip speeds so shocks will start forming on the compressor face and fan blades at lower RPMs. I really really don't know if the F-35 can supercruise or not especially if using LockMart criterion.