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Atheism requires as much faith as religion? bearvspuma : The only problem with this rationalization is that ita s assuming all athiests are so because theya re intelligent in the ways of science and reasoning and all people that believe in a form of god are unintelligent.

<quoted text>.. Uganda has a special place in the hearts of Evangelical Christians, members of your tribe .... the 'kill the gays' bill failed because of the international community. Has the Christian Community condemned life imprisonment of homosexuals in Uganda? If so, which tribe ??..

Several Christian organizations oppose it, including the Roman Catholic Church, the Anglican Church of Canada, Integrity Uganda, Exodus International, Accepting Evangelicals, Changing Attitude, Courage, Ekklesia, Fulcrum, Inclusive Church and the Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement. Exodus International sent a letter to President Museveni stating, "The Christian church ... must be permitted to extend the love and compassion of Christ to all. We believe that this legislation would make this mission a difficult if not impossible task to carry out."[71] A group of U.S. Christian leaders have released a statement to Uganda about the bill, one of these leaders being Thomas Patrick Melady, former U.S. Ambassador to Uganda.[72] The Anglican Reverend Canon Gideon Byamugisha said that the Bill "would become state-legislated genocide".[73]

<quoted text>You seem to think that secular humanism is barbarous and that Christianity is compassionate - that we should run from the one and seek solace and protection in the other. What do you think Communism would have been like with people that worship the bible god at the helm - perhaps a George Bush or a Pat Robertson?"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I’m the dictator".-George W. Bush"Whenever the civil government forbids the practice of things that God has commanded us to do, or tells us to do things He has commanded us not to do, then we are on solid ground in disobeying the government and rebelling against it." - Pat RobertsonOr maybe these guys, How do you suppose that they would have run the Soviet state?:“I figured a way out — a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers. But I couldn’t get it passed through Congress. Build a great big large fence, 150 or 100 mile (sic) long. Put all the lesbians in there. Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals. Have that fence electrified so they can’t get out. Feed ‘em, and– And you know what? In a few years they’ll die out. You know why? They can’t reproduce.”- North Carolina Pastor Charles Worley"I imagine every Christian would agree that we need to remove humanism from the public schools. There is only one way to accomplish this: Abolish the public schools." -The Reverend Robert L. Thoburn"I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good ... our goal is a Christian nation. We have the biblical duty, we are called on by God to conquer this country. We don’t want equal time. We don’t want pluralism." - Randall Terry, Director of Operation Rescue"The Seven Mountains are - it's almost like its a template for warfare. Because the church so frequently does not have a language for how it goes about taking territory" - Apostle Lance Wallnau==========Secular humanists simply don't think like that. Secularists wrote the US Constitution, which protects Americans from the excesses of the likes of these Christians. Christians would undo it all. How many have we heard utter something like this:"I believe this notion of the separation of church and state was the figment of some infidel’s imagination." - Rev. W. A. Criswell (Dallas, 1984)

You just voiced the opinion of six people, man.

Six people don't represent Christianity.

You really do try to let the minority make your opinions valid, don't you?

<quoted text>That would be a wonderful story if their intentions were altruistic. I don't think that's the case. In exchange for their "protection" the homeless get to hear the beautiful story of Teh God.Just another case of preying on the vulnerable like Christians have done for ages.

Hey funky gal, although Pastors and Church people who prey off failed people repulses me, The ideal is to help those who have failed, are fearful, wounded etc. Jesus did say he didn't come for all the "good healthy" people, rather to seek and save the lost. The great physician. Can you dispute that many were helped and went on to live a better life?

<quoted text><quoted text>Are you saying that those Christians would not have helped others if they were not Christian, or that Christianity deserves credit for the kindness of Christians?Why is your local homeless shelter full?<quoted text>Merry Christmas, lightbeamrider

Poor IANS.

His tunnel vision developed over so many years of staring at a bong and his illustrious self has left him with the inability to discern. A severe case of mental myopia.

This is why he would make such a lousy house painter. He couldn't do trim work. He just paints everything with one big brush.

Regarding religion he paints all Christians the same, yet he won't do that for other aspects of the human experience.

You have good and bad doctors, lawyers, painters, plumbers, and politicians. They all interpret and apply their knowledge the best they know how, and have differing views of how to get things done. They have different motivations to do what they do.

Motivations, IANS. That is what you should be judging by, not stereotypes you created in your head.

Without those religious organizations you wouldn't have so much concern for their fellow man.

Here is an example of the religious and secular approaches to your fellow man.

Back in the Clinton years substance abuse became the kiss of death for getting any help from the government or disability. It became the means to deny help. Even to the point if there was no real abuse, but if you had ever done drugs in the past it was causation for denial that was jumped on for the government to save money. It became policy. The Reagan years were even worse in some aspects. This was secularism saving money.

The religious organizations kept on helping those poor lost souls. It didn't matter how they got where they got. They were human beings with issues trapped in an uncaring secular world.

Let me ask you this: Who has bullied who into the closet? Why do you suppose that it that it is gays in the closet and not Christians?

RiversideRedneck wrote:

In my honest opinion, because homosexuality isn't 'normal' and some people that are gay find it embarrassing.

You think gays are closeted because of themselves, not because of Christian doctrine regarding homosexuality?

As far as homosexuality being abnormal, please note that across the animal kingdom, it is seen far more commonly than religion.

RiversideRedneck wrote:

Do me this, answer that same question. I want to hear your take.

Christians have defined homosexual as abnormal, and have shamed and guilted many into self-loathing and hiding themselves from their families, friends, neighbors, employers, customers, coworkers, and constituents.

It aint necessarily so wrote: Your duck buddy wasn't silenced. He had his say promoting the Christian homophobic agenda

RiversideRedneck wrote: What agenda? You've been talking about some elusive Christian homophobic message and haven't explained yourself, now you're calling it an agenda. What agenda? What thefuck are you talking about?!?

It aint necessarily so wrote:

Would it help you if I gave the answer in sign language, Morse code, smoke signals, or semaphore? How about charades or Pictionary? Ordinary language doesn't seem to be working.How do you feel about mimes?

<quoted text>Well, that's entirely subjective, ain't it? No doubt they belived they were following the true faith, and if you know history at all, those of previous generations' lives were far more infused with and informed by their faith than most any modern American Christian.Martin Luther - was his faith "skin-deep"? I don't think you can say so. He's a "Founding Father" of nearly half of today's alleged Christians. Yet he is without question one of the worst fomentors of the deadliest anti-Semitism of the last 1000 years.

I have witnessed anti-Semitism in a few Christians. Academics mostly. Its bizarre to me. They are fine except for that one area. David committed adultery and murder. He also did a census which caused 70,000 to die.[Bizarre] Then there is Solomon who had multiple wives and concubines. He beat his slaves with whips and his son said he would use scorpions. That caused a revolt and a splitting of the Kingdom. Did you get that IANS? That is your second example of slave revolt. The first was the Exodus. There is enough sin to go around.

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