Please think to new members who cannot understand what you are talking about and seems so evident to you!!!
So what is this book, is 250F Mas the subjet as it seems? , how many pages, price and how to get it? Thank you!

Originally posted by m.tanney &nbsp Dan Gurney is working with Gordon Kirby on a biography which will be similar to his Mario Andretti: A Driving Passion. Like the Andretti book, it will be published by David Bull. The publisher expects to have it out sometime in 2004. It's a shame that it's taking so long, but if the Andretti book is any indication, it will be worth the wait. Given the Kirby book's ETA, I don't really see how Karl could have been expected to wait for its release before publishing his own book.

&nbsp Mike

Sorry to resurrect an old topic, but in surfing around today, I came across the following by Gordon Kirby on http://www.cart.com/...cle.asp?ID=6059 dated 20 May, 2003. The part of the article which prompted this post is as follows:

"I’m just beginning work on the official biography of Dan Gurney’s driving and car-building careers and as many of you no doubt know Dan achieved great things at Spa and the ‘Ring in the fifties and sixties. I wanted to get in the right frame of mind to write about Dan’s days in Europe and I figured I had to take advantage of the chance to check out the original 8-mile Spa circuit then drive east to sample the ‘Ring’s ‘Nordschleife’."

Originally posted by Geza Sury I also bought the Seaman book from Mill House together with the new Eddie Jordan bio and Alan Henry's 'Four Season at Ferrari - The Lauda Years.' I only can second Peter's words, the Nixon book is a real masterpiece My next order will include the new paperback version of Gerald Donaldson's James Hunt bio, Karl's Eagle book and Alan Henry's 'Ferrari - The Battle for Revival', which is more or less the continuation of his previous book about the team.

BTW, has anyone bought the new Williams book by Alan Henry? I'm seriously considering the purchase of it since I don't have anything about this team. Can anyone recommend a good Williams book?

Originally posted by Yorgos Any comments on "Four Seasons at Ferrari"? Is there anything new?

I like the book, although I haven't read it. It's middle-sized and consists of 192 pages. There are many pictures in it, some new, although mainly b&w. I don't think it contains too many things that haven't been published before. It covers Niki's whole carreer (there's even a picture of Niki sitting in the Jaguar F1 car), but of course concentrates on his Ferrari years. IMHO there are too big gaps between the rows, so the pages could've contained more text.

I think Lauda fans should by this book at a reduced price (check Mill House Book's website), but others can spend their money on better ones.

Originally posted by petefenelon ... included Chris Nixon's "Rivals" (Lancia D50 vs Mercedes W196) and "Shooting Star" (Seaman biography) at half price (20 quid each) - real masterpieces of handsome production and elegant design, with some stunning photography and words that seem every bit as good as "Mon Ami Mate".

With the usual interest in helping Our Own Scribes put food on the table, clothe themselves, have an abode, and so forth -- Plus assist Other Scribes to do likewise, I have merged several treads and stuck it up top so that it is more visible.

Once again for those of us Stateside, Motorbooks will carry Vol. 2 of the BRM Saga by Our Own DCN starting in late-June from my understanding.

Ron, get onto your book people and have them reiterate your number request. Yours is one of the fine bindings, so the publishers will no doubt take good care with who has asked for what. But....

...a number of the regular editions got sent somewhere - no-one is quite sure where - and some of the people who asked for specific numbers from a long way back have been disappointed. It's not just one particular bookseller's orders that are affected either. Chaters, Collectors Carbooks, Mill House are all in the same boat.

So it would be as well to make sure your people are on the case, and fighting for your book.

From Ebay description:
"Long-awaited Volume 2 covering 1959-65. 368 pages! Limited to an amazingly low 2200 copies, approximately half of which were sold prior to publication! "

I don't in any way mean to be impertinent (especially to an author I respect as much as Mr. Nye), but why would anyone, after going to the incredible amount of work to produce such a thorough, important historical book of research, print only 2200 copies. This almost ensures that many who could enjoy and use such a volume will not be able to purchase it....except at exorbitant 'out-of-print' prices. It seems that to print so few copies must be based on a calculated decision to restrict availability....to what end?

Perhaps I don't understand the rationale for this decision (although as a librarian I'd like to think I understand a bit about publishing)...or perhaps I've just become accustomed to the sharing of knowledge and history for the benefit of all....as so well exemplified on this board. Again, no offense intended.

Originally posted by cts125 From Ebay description:"Long-awaited Volume 2 covering 1959-65. 368 pages! Limited to an amazingly low 2200 copies, approximately half of which were sold prior to publication! "

I don't in any way mean to be impertinent (especially to an author I respect as much as Mr. Nye), but why would anyone, after going to the incredible amount of work to produce such a thorough, important historical book of research, print only 2200 copies. This almost ensures that many who could enjoy and use such a volume will not be able to purchase it....except at exorbitant 'out-of-print' prices. It seems that to print so few copies must be based on a calculated decision to restrict availability....to what end?

Perhaps I don't understand the rationale for this decision (although as a librarian I'd like to think I understand a bit about publishing)...or perhaps I've just become accustomed to the sharing of knowledge and history for the benefit of all....as so well exemplified on this board. Again, no offense intended.

CT

Being blunt about it, 70 quid's (A) not unfair given the size and quality of the book and the amount of effort everyone has put in(B) justifiable for a book that isn't going to have the mass appeal of a piece of Christopher Hilton hackwork about contemporary F1.

As far as I'm aware Volume 1 has never been reprinted. Maybe there'd be some scope for a cheaper edition after Doug's got Vol 4 out of the way...;)

Couple of asides:

Maybe what the world needs is something like the old Motoraces Book Club, doing cheap enthusiast editions of recent titles - a guaranteed print run and a way of getting good books into enthusiasts' hands. OK, MBC editions weren't anything like as nice as the mainstream publishers' ones (and are still cheaper on the secondhand market - I've picked up Touch Wood and Private Entrant very cheaply) but for those who want the content at a bargan price it sounds like a good idea.

I've just bought a couple of reprinted novels from a company that does print-on-demand - again, fairly manky book, but the alternative would've been finding an expensive secondhand copy. At least that way the author gets a few bob!

Maybe something like Atlas could combine an enthusiasts' book club with print-on-demand ;)

Originally posted by cts125 ...why would anyone, after going to the incredible amount of work to produce such a thorough, important historical book of research, print only 2200 copies. This almost ensures that many who could enjoy and use such a volume will not be able to purchase it....except at exorbitant 'out-of-print' prices.

Ooh- err - darned good point. Good question, well put, don't know the answer - it's all down to the publisher in this case. Perhaps MRP has interests in what Jenks used to describe as the 'pre-read book trade'...but I truly doubt it. And I still haven't seen a copy...obviously I should have ordered one from the reputable retailers!

Something that should be of interest to some here, The Klemantaski Collection is publishing a book of photographs by Pete Coltrin, the Californian who settled in Modena. Images from both America and Europe. Text is by Chris Nixon. Should be out later this summer.

I especially liked Ferrari's Lieutenant by Gozzi. Only Italian I've ever read who didn't treat Ferrari like a monument. Some humorous stories and some new interpretations of events such as the firing of John Surtees.

There's also a new Bandini book that I enjoyed. English text along with the Italian.

Ooh- err - darned good point. Good question, well put, don't know the answer - it's all down to the publisher in this case. Perhaps MRP has interests in what Jenks used to describe as the 'pre-read book trade'...but I truly doubt it. And I still haven't seen a copy...obviously I should have ordered one from the reputable retailers!

DCN

Well that bloke on Ebay seems to have 8 of them. Obviously hoping that scarcity forces the price up.

I'm slightly surprised that only 2500 of Vol 2 were printed, given the success of Vol 1, mind.

Anyway, pp 53-4 are worth 70 quid in their own right. I won't spoil the fun for anyone who hasn't got there yet ;)

Originally posted by cabianca Something that should be of interest to some here, The Klemantaski Collection is publishing a book of photographs by Pete Coltrin, the Californian who settled in Modena. Images from both America and Europe. Text is by Chris Nixon. Should be out later this summer.

Definitely something to look forward to.People have been trying for years to buy the Coltrin archive, but apparently his widow wanted silly money.Good to see that they're being published at last

Originally posted by Doug Nye Ooh- err - darned good point. Good question, well put, don't know the answer - it's all down to the publisher in this case. Perhaps MRP has interests in what Jenks used to describe as the 'pre-read book trade'...but I truly doubt it.....

Irritating to me, this...

The book publishing business seems to be dividing itself into a 'cheap books for the masses' group that are barely worth reading and an 'exclusive books for the wealthy few' with numbered copies and exclusivity built in.

Surely the purpose of a book is to give people information? To enable a large number to derive pleasure and knowledge from the efforts of the author/s?

Deliberately limiting numbers in such things is hard for me to understand... but obviously there's a profit motive there somewhere...