On the whole most of mine have come through from a pack of pastel shades seeds that I grew last year. The ones nearest the fence in hot dry conditions seem to have done the best. My soil is relatively free draining.

Maybe the white one would be more grow better in your conditions as they seem to pop everywhere. The seem to do best with lots of sun

You've got a lot of seedlings there Worcester Park They look too small to plant out yet, I think the slugs would eat them. I'd grow them on a bit before planting them out

I've found them easy to grow from seed and have just cut the faded flower heads off mine. I planted it last year and it has blucked up considerably. Mine does get a bit floppy this year so probably would look better with some support but I never get around to it. Everything grows at angle in this bed anyway

Hi Fairy, absolutley it's personnal taste. I've grown a lot of purple and whites over the years but I've been moving over to hotter reds and pinks. My sunny bed will have to revamped this year as my plonk in and see what it looks like approach means things are very higgedly piggedly and in the wrong place

Forget to mention that if you do like yellows and oranges iamto, gaillardia goblins are great fairly compact plants. Hardy for me and don't grow as tall as the rudebekkias