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Never heard of that one before, I will have to look into it. By the way, you seem like the most knowledgeable when it comes to the sups., have you heard of Tri Pharm K-4 creatine? Or any Intek nutrition products? Im using the K-4 creatine right now that my buddy sells in his nutrition shop and I am also using Intek nutrition pre workout. I hadn't heard of either of these lines until my buddy introduced them to me. They seem legit. Just wondering your thoughts on them if you have heard of them.

FWIW, most creatine products are the same. I personally wouldn't get anything other than Creatine Mono since you can get a year's supply for around $20, but designer creatines are cool if that's what you like.

Looking over Intek's pre-workout leaves me underwhelmed. The formula seems out of date. Arginine is pretty useless and it's the main ingredient in the prop blend.

No Agmatine, Cit Mal, COP....I personally wouldn't spend money on it. It has Beta Alanine and DMAA which is good though.

FWIW, most creatine products are the same. I personally wouldn't get anything other than Creatine Mono since you can get a year's supply for around $20, but designer creatines are cool if that's what you like.

Looking over Intek's pre-workout leaves me underwhelmed. The formula seems out of date. Arginine is pretty useless and it's the main ingredient in the prop blend.

No Agmatine, Cit Mal, COP....I personally wouldn't spend money on it. It has Beta Alanine and DMAA which is good though.

Thank you for your insight, brotha. I will start looking into other pre workouts. I guess I can't go wrong with the C4. A lot of people in here seem to like it.

I took C4 as my prework out for a few months at the begining of the year but then switched to MusclePharm Assault in june and just re-upped on it. Now I'm split on both of them, meaning I don't prefer one over the other as I think they are both great. However when I re-ordered they gave me a free sample of C4(Icey Blue Razz). I get tingles on C4 just like before, which is fine(it makes me feel slightly more amped up). So on Tuesday I took the last of the free C4 and worked arms and shoulders.

I was seated at an incline and was doing hanging curls with 40's. I'm trying to tighten my mid section more when I do any lift now btw. But as I did it for this particular lift I experienced EXTREME pins and needles all over my body as if it had fallen asleep. It would go away as I relaxed but came back each time I tightened up.

This may be a really stupid question, but do supplements go bad. I bought a simple Creatine Monohydrate from my friend about 3-4 years ago. Just started to use it again the other day to go along with my Trutien.

Just wondering if its useless now or can have any negative effects after time. Again, I know could be dumb question.

This may be a really stupid question, but do supplements go bad. I bought a simple Creatine Monohydrate from my friend about 3-4 years ago. Just started to use it again the other day to go along with my Trutien.

Just wondering if its useless now or can have any negative effects after time. Again, I know could be dumb question.

This may be a really stupid question, but do supplements go bad. I bought a simple Creatine Monohydrate from my friend about 3-4 years ago. Just started to use it again the other day to go along with my Trutien.

Just wondering if its useless now or can have any negative effects after time. Again, I know could be dumb question.

Check the label - it'll have an expiration date just like any other food/nutrition product.

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I took C4 as my prework out for a few months at the begining of the year but then switched to MusclePharm Assault in june and just re-upped on it. Now I'm split on both of them, meaning I don't prefer one over the other as I think they are both great. However when I re-ordered they gave me a free sample of C4(Icey Blue Razz). I get tingles on C4 just like before, which is fine(it makes me feel slightly more amped up). So on Tuesday I took the last of the free C4 and worked arms and shoulders.

I was seated at an incline and was doing hanging curls with 40's. I'm trying to tighten my mid section more when I do any lift now btw. But as I did it for this particular lift I experienced EXTREME pins and needles all over my body as if it had fallen asleep. It would go away as I relaxed but came back each time I tightened up.

What's the deal?

Sounds more like something nerve related / some sort of cramping. I'd consider talking to a physician in the future if it happens again.

It seems like you might have been pinching a nerve while flexing your core, but I'd have no way of knowing to be honest.

Originally Posted by nyanks79

This may be a really stupid question, but do supplements go bad. I bought a simple Creatine Monohydrate from my friend about 3-4 years ago. Just started to use it again the other day to go along with my Trutien.

Just wondering if its useless now or can have any negative effects after time. Again, I know could be dumb question.

So it was opened before? It shouldn't denature from contact with air since it's monohydrate. If any moisture got in it could have some issues.

Honestly, I'd probably just buy a new tub of mono if it were me. It's like $20 for a year's supply of AllMax Creapure.

I think we should avoid using supplements, as could have a lot of side effects on our body and health. In fact should tery to complete all our vitamins, protiens, and other necessary ingredients from our food. Try to eat fresh vegetables, fruits, juices and some regular walk and exercises.