The package names have been changed a bit as you saw, so we fellow users are reluctant to give you a definitive answer. I suggest you give PG Music Sales a call and tell them what you have. Be sure to do it before the price goes back to normal.

Thank you for welcoming to the forum. I respectfully disagree that this is simply used to learn how to play. A lot of us have used tracks from bib in a song. Still this year I see no reason because this just cosmetic they could have just released new realtracks.

Who said it is just used to learn to play? I agree with you; many of us make very good sounding accompaniment tracks in many different styles. Nothing can touch this program for that. And if you used RealTracks like I do, you would want all you could get. That alone is easily worth the price of the new version!

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JimPsalm 33:3 Sing unto him a new song; play skillfully with a loud noise.

Wow this is just a cosmetic upgrade. nothing new really. Still no rewire, a feature that has been requested for over 10 years or anyway to sync bib with a real DAW not like real tracks.

There are a lot of things from the wishlist I would have loved to see in the upgrade and were it not for the new RealTracks I'd def take a pass. BUT, I'll upgrade just for the RealTracks! The upgrade price is reasonable and you get a lot of new tracks to use in making music!

Probably 90% of the users don't understand the concept behind what you just wrote and could care less. They load in the chords, pick a style, hit Play. That's it. Biab is huge in music schools. Do you think a teacher using it to teach a student how to solo over the circle of 5ths cares about rewire?Bob

Exactly,Bob. That 90% wants to do just that.Maybe just maybe certain bits could be a bit more plug and play for non-techies like me but it great in its core operations.WendyMPS-looks like 2018 is coming out a bit buggy so for Numpties like meI think id better hang on a couple of weeks while you fix things.PPS-whats a circle of fifths?lol

A patch after a new release is pretty standard, but even as is, I’m not encountering any show-stopping problems in regular use.

He who knows these things says a fifth is a bottle of whiskey and thats why you go round in circles.Im thinking that I'll hang on a bit and see what happens.Im sure to buy it but would prefer in less buggy as Im not easily able to fix techie things(as some of you guys already know from Beginners)if something needs se-setting etc.Does anyone know if the VIDEO RTs are just so you can see the recording artiste playing them or they NEW RTs and can be incorporated into my SGU as if they are normal RTS?

Summary of Changes for Build 5Added: When generating the input file for saving as an MGU/SGU SongMode128= is saved to the input file.Added: Localization support for 2018.Added: flyby hints to new dialogs.Fixed: Save As with a filename greater than 128 chars could cause an error 123 plus access violation.Fixed: Rebooting RealBand after a filename with 128 chars was saved could cause an access violation.Fixed: Pressing the Change button in the Event List Window could result in an access violation if an event was not a Note event.Fixed: When running in Win 10, and using BBW or PT to generate audio harmonies, an error would occur saying that you need BB 2011 or PT 12 to generate audio harmonies.Fixed: Midi Thru Method was not being saved to the .INI file. It always reverting to Track-Specific when booting up RealBand, even if the user manually changed the setting to Global in the Midi Thru Settings dialog.Fixed: Delete All Notes on This Peg menu item in notation window right-click menu was missing.Fixed: Potential crash on exit (having to do with the DLL attempting to free up a dynamic array that was passed to it).

Summary of changes for Build 512 since 510 (Feb 15 2018):Fixed: "Load SoundTrack Song" and "Load song with RealDrums Audio" buttons in the Sound Track dialog were not working.Fixed: After returning Band-in-a-Box to factory settings the File Open dialog would default to the bb\Data\Lib directory.Fixed: Choosing a custom chord sheet font would ignore any color choice made in the font selection dialog.Fixed: Drum names were sometimes truncated in the RealDrums MultiDrums and Quicklist dialogs.Fixed: Exporting a MIDI file might cause the error, "MIDIConv.exe no found".Fixed: Mixer changes were not undoable, and would not cause user to be prompted to save their song when exiting.Fixed: Static in RT2438 and other various RealTracks fixes.Fixed: StylePicker database various updates. Some styles were displaying the wrong feel (swing/even) in notation. A few styles incorrectly showed missing Drums.Fixed: The audio latency setting would increase every time leaving the Windows Audio Devices dialog.Fixed: The Download Manager folder name defaulted to 2016 instead of 2018.Updated: Help file.

Windows Audio (WASAPI) driver support. This allows for low latency audio recording/playback without requiring ASIO. Note that this supports 1 stereo input plus 1 stereo output at a time. For multiple inputs/outputs, you should continue to use either MME or ASIO.

ABC Notation format support. You can save a track of notation in a popular ASCII text format to import into other programs, or you can paste this format into a user forum as a way of sending the track (usually the melody and chord symbols) to other users without having to attach a file.

The built-in Audio Chord Wizard detection in the Chords window automatically detects the chords of the song, based on the audio data from all non-muted audio tracks. This works similar to the standalone Audio Chord Wizard, except that it uses the current bar lines of the existing song.

Notation Enhancements:
-X/8 time signature support. This is a special method of displaying 6/8, 9/8, or 12/8 time signatures in the Notation window.
-The Duplicate previous chord in notation right-click menu lets you quickly duplicate the previous chord (group of notes on same peg) without having to reenter it.
-Delete highlighted notes in notation right-click menu lets you delete all highlighted notes.
-Delete all notes on this peg in notation right-click menu lets you delete all notes on the nearest peg that was clicked on.
-You can now enter Section Numbers. Previously, you could enter letters (A-Z) only, but now you can also enter numbers (1-9).

We released the much-loved Xtra Styles PAKs in August 2016! This release included 164 RealStyles for Jazz, Country, Rock-Pop, and Singer/Songwriter and worked with any Band-in-a-Box® 2016 or higher UltraPlusPAK, EverythingPAK, or Audiophile Edition!

Xtra Styles PAKs were such a hit... we couldn't stop making them! Since their introduction, we've released 3 more PAKs with a total of over 600 Xtra Styles in all!

Check out some great feedback we've received on our Facebook account from program users:

"I have been using Band-in-a-Box for years. It is the anchor of my music gigs as well as my fun in my studio. I have used other software but Band-in-a-Box is my main go to."
-Jack T.

"Love Band-in-a-Box. As someone who played professionally for 20 years and retired from live performing years ago, I still love music. Band-in-a-Box allows me to create fun arrangements which I can sing over or play over. There are THOUSANDS of different variations plus you can enter any chords you like and create any chart. It's also great for creating background tracks for videos and audio content for websites, training etc. And like everything else in the world . . . it may not be right for everyone. For those who love music and don't have the time to shed five or six instruments it's way cool."
-Vinnie R.

"This program has completely changed my playing for the good. I can experiment with playing chords and leads over various scenarios that I can quickly create and change. Love this program. I use it nearly every day."
-Dave R.

"I bought my first version in 1994 and have progressed to 2018 version. I use it to create backing tracks for live music performance. I currently have over 2,000 songs performance ready. If you can and type, and use mouse it will work for you."
-Roger M.

"The premiere reason for me for buying this program; it has given me the freedom to fully complete the foundation for my songs without the confinement of limited minded musicians. After the song concept is complete, it can then be presented those musicians to play as a cover song. Also writing a song with a band gives them partial ownership of your idea... not cool... especially since they may have fought your idea every step of the way.. Every member of an organized band should own a copy of this program to compose or to even give legitimate composition alternatives to the original songwriter."
-Paul V.

ABC notation is the simple text-based notation system used by musicians worldwide to store chords, melody, and lyrics of songs. Now with Band-in-a-Box® 2018 for Windows you can open and save songs in ABC notation format!

To save the song in ABC notation format, press the [Save As] toolbar button and choose Save as ABC notation file from the menu. Once opened, select a track that you want to save and choose your other criteria - The [Copy to clipboard] button will copy the file to the clipboard (that you can then paste it into other programs). The [Save as File] button will let you type a name and select the destination in your hard drive.