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Re: Q&a - open for every ranks!

Originally Posted by 'Kurapika

But this seems quite different. The jutsu is a river, a stream that heads in one direction, you can just send it in your opponent's direction as if he was long range and let him get caught in the current.
I'm guessing this would happen if you tried using this jutsu to destroy a wall or any big object, some mud would fall back and reach you.

Re: Q&a - open for every ranks!

Thats the jutsu.You can't decide to which direction the mud flows.It doesn't defy gravity.All you can do is summon a mud river using that jutsu.

But since you can't tell which part of the field is higher, I don't see how this fact can help. Can I simply counter it by saying "Your part of the field is lower, your jutsu will now hit you instead"? I think not. Not unless you manipulate the field so that your end is higher, which doesn't seem to change anything regarding the range issue.
His question was whether it can hit mid range target or not. I think it should work the same way as if you were trying to hit a long range target.
Btw, I think your observation will help me alot in the future when countering similar technique, thanks.

Re: Q&a - open for every ranks!

When we say 'I channel my water chakra into the nearby lake and manipulate it' how exactly do we do that......I mean we are neither in contact with the water nor are we spitting out the water from our own body. So how do we exactly do that??

Re: Q&a - open for every ranks!

Originally Posted by Flash07

When we say 'I channel my water chakra into the nearby lake and manipulate it' how exactly do we do that......I mean we are neither in contact with the water nor are we spitting out the water from our own body. So how do we exactly do that??

we send our chakra into the lake and thanks to that chakra we manipulate the water, what's so hard to understand that?

Re: Q&a - open for every ranks!

Originally Posted by Flash07

How exactly do you send it? Through the air?

You have to understand the consept of chakra:
Imagine chakra as being an extention of your will, or like a telekinetic force... Thing is, that, normal chakra must be very consentrated to actually move something (ex: rassengan), so you have to change it's frequency/nature/whatever to be simulat to that of the element you want to control. Then, you release it, and it takes control of that element from the surroundings, which, I imagine it goes like that:
-For fire, it get started by controlling heat, and making fire chakra control flamable gassed (in the body) to have this heat get fire.
-For lighting, you are taking control of the static electricity in the atmosphere, and/or the electricity in your own nervous system
-For wind, well, it's pretty obvious, but you infuse wind chakra to the air in your respiratory system, and/or to the air surrounding you.
-For water, you use Humidity/Water source/body fluids (?)
-For earth, you use the ground you are stepping on.
Of course there are some exceptions on the sources, but for most jutsu, I think it works with the above sources...

Now, as the chakra has the properties of the "natural aura" of the same element, the element will follow. But, as it is initially your chakra, infused to that of the element, you still maintain control over it.

Finally, a very important consent, is that your chakra cannot magically appear on your opponent, it has to travel there... For example, if someone uses swamp of the underworld, the chakra will travel (through the earth) from the feet of the user, till under the target. As chakra is invisible, for most bios this is a neglectable factor, but for a Dojutsu user or any other chakra sensor, this could determinate the outcome of the battle. For example, a byakugan user would perceive the earth chakra coming towards him, and be able to prepare a counter much sooner than someone who cannot see chakra...

Re: Q&a - open for every ranks!

Originally Posted by 'Kurapika

It's a stream, it will go through short-range and into mid-rage and finally reaches long-range in any case.

Originally Posted by Igneel

Well thats a good question.
The jutsu can only be made long range because,if it is made short-mid the mud river would also engulf you.But people use it in our Rp the way they like.
I had a recent talk/argument with mugiwara about the Rising destructive pillar.It is a long range jutsu,do you know why that is so?because when the pillars rise they would create a great tremor that would affect the people standing mid range around the pillar,thats what he said and it makes sense.But people use it in mid-range,I use it that way as well so I'm not gonna blame anybody.People misuse many jutsu's here.

PHP Code:

(Doton: Doro Hōshi) - Earth Release: Mud Spore
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Long
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: This technique lets the user summon a river of mud infront of them. This technique can have water added to it to speed up the flow and increase its power.

also it says it lets the user summon a river in front of them, so I think it wont hurt the user if created in short or mid range and my imagination fits with Kurapika's answer.. But I'm no expert... though Igneel's answer holds good for rising destructive pillars...!

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New question:
I can wash off Water syrup: starch syrup jutsu [C rank] with my water jutsu right..? Provided C rank or above...?

Re: Q&a - open for every ranks!

I have a question, though I believe it's more directed towards mods of the RP. I'm not sure if it's been discussed before, asked before or considered already amongst mods and the general public. But I have a few questions concerning two of the kekkei genkai Storm and Dark as they've been presented in the Third Shippuden Movie. Since I've just finished re-watching and looking at the techniques here on the base I've noticed a few things that I just wanted to get clarrified. I'll start with Storm Release.

Storm

I've noticed that Hiruko in the third shippuden movie used two Ranton techniques: (Ranton: Raiunkōha) - Storm Release: Thunder Cloud Inner Wave and (Ranton Ougi, Rankiryuu) Storm Element Ultimate Technique, Turbulance (translated on the video play on animedreaming) however the latter is excluded from the RP in the Storm Release section as well as in the Bio restrictions for Hiruko under examples of his techniques.

The technique seems to detail the creation of a thick thundercloud which feeds on other's chakra and then is release into the ground. After observing how it works, there seems to be some level of electrical discharge from the large cloud and then when released with another handseal there seems to be a large violet wall like entity that releases along the ground 360 degress with the user being the center point of the technique. We see the technique beginning at 2:30 and then we see the later affects of it at 4:50 part 5. (This is from me watching it from Anime Dreaming website, the movie is split up into five parts. if you go to those times specified on part 5 you'll see them). My question(s) are: was this technique excluded intentionally, overlooked, or is there some other reason why it's not in the RP or was it included at some point and taken out? I'm just wanted that to be clarrified since I'm curious.

Dark

Now onto Dark Release, staying on the same general timeframe of when the Storm Release techniques occured, right after that technique we see Hiruko quickly absorbing several Rasengan techniques from a distances. He's inhaling the techiques into his mouth. According to the bio restrictions for Dark Release and after my own convo with scorps before re-watching this movie some time ago, apparently the Absorptions of techniques are required to be through the hands of the user. Though the way Hiruko absorbed Naruto's techniques suggested that the point of entry for absorption of these techniques isn't just through the hand. As we've seen, Hiruko, Ichi, Nii, and San all had the same triangular tatoos somewhere on their bodies (I'd have to go back and look for the specific times to show) which also suggests that the techniques of Dark Release don't necessarily require sed markings. I wanted clarrification on this as well, to see if it's necessary for Dark Release users to only absorb and, for that matter, release their Dark Release techniques from the hands. I found this piece directly after the storm release technique so watch from 4:50 in part 5 and beyond and you'll see.

Also, when Hiruko used Inhaling Maw, against Kakashi's Raikiri, he seemed to absorb the technique from a reasonable distance away (part 5 5:30), which is another question I have as to why Inhaling maw is restricted to short range?

I have more questions concerning Hiruko and his elements. Reasons why are, specifically for Dark Release, there is limited versatility, absorb and redistribute. And you can only do so in select ways as it stands right now.

Re: Q&a - open for every ranks!

Originally Posted by Reborn

I have a question, though I believe it's more directed towards mods of the RP. I'm not sure if it's been discussed before, asked before or considered already amongst mods and the general public. But I have a few questions concerning two of the kekkei genkai Storm and Dark as they've been presented in the Third Shippuden Movie. Since I've just finished re-watching and looking at the techniques here on the base I've noticed a few things that I just wanted to get clarrified. I'll start with Storm Release.

Storm

I've noticed that Hiruko in the third shippuden movie used two Ranton techniques: (Ranton: Raiunkōha) - Storm Release: Thunder Cloud Inner Wave and (Ranton Ougi, Rankiryuu) Storm Element Ultimate Technique, Turbulance (translated on the video play on animedreaming) however the latter is excluded from the RP in the Storm Release section as well as in the Bio restrictions for Hiruko under examples of his techniques.

The technique seems to detail the creation of a thick thundercloud which feeds on other's chakra and then is release into the ground. After observing how it works, there seems to be some level of electrical discharge from the large cloud and then when released with another handseal there seems to be a large violet wall like entity that releases along the ground 360 degress with the user being the center point of the technique. We see the technique beginning at 2:30 and then we see the later affects of it at 4:50 part 5. (This is from me watching it from Anime Dreaming website, the movie is split up into five parts. if you go to those times specified on part 5 you'll see them). My question(s) are: was this technique excluded intentionally, overlooked, or is there some other reason why it's not in the RP or was it included at some point and taken out? I'm just wanted that to be clarrified since I'm curious.

Dark

Now onto Dark Release, staying on the same general timeframe of when the Storm Release techniques occured, right after that technique we see Hiruko quickly absorbing several Rasengan techniques from a distances. He's inhaling the techiques into his mouth. According to the bio restrictions for Dark Release and after my own convo with scorps before re-watching this movie some time ago, apparently the Absorptions of techniques are required to be through the hands of the user. Though the way Hiruko absorbed Naruto's techniques suggested that the point of entry for absorption of these techniques isn't just through the hand. As we've seen, Hiruko, Ichi, Nii, and San all had the same triangular tatoos somewhere on their bodies (I'd have to go back and look for the specific times to show) which also suggests that the techniques of Dark Release don't necessarily require sed markings. I wanted clarrification on this as well, to see if it's necessary for Dark Release users to only absorb and, for that matter, release their Dark Release techniques from the hands. I found this piece directly after the storm release technique so watch from 4:50 in part 5 and beyond and you'll see.

Also, when Hiruko used Inhaling Maw, against Kakashi's Raikiri, he seemed to absorb the technique from a reasonable distance away (part 5 5:30), which is another question I have as to why Inhaling maw is restricted to short range?

I have more questions concerning Hiruko and his elements. Reasons why are, specifically for Dark Release, there is limited versatility, absorb and redistribute. And you can only do so in select ways as it stands right now.

I'll watch the movie once more and try to notice these things and see what my interpretation of them is. However, you must notice something on naruto movies mainly but also on naruto games. Things aren't exactly balanced. One time you have a Rasengan smashing the opponent and sending him flying some distance the other it creates and explosion and obliterates half of the screen. Things are boosted up on movies to make them more...dramatic, specially on the final boss fights.

Re: Q&a - open for every ranks!

Originally Posted by Scorps

I'll watch the movie once more and try to notice these things and see what my interpretation of them is. However, you must notice something on naruto movies mainly but also on naruto games. Things aren't exactly balanced. One time you have a Rasengan smashing the opponent and sending him flying some distance the other it creates and explosion and obliterates half of the screen. Things are boosted up on movies to make them more...dramatic, specially on the final boss fights.

Well I can understand that, especially for games. Though I don't play the Naruto Games since I'm not to fond of the anime based fighters aside from DBZ lol. With movies, I can understand where you're coming from, and I can assume it's about a few sections like the mass absorption, distanced Absorptoion, etc, etc.

Though mainly a point I was looking at was the Dark Release absorption through the mouth. Not focusing on the range at which he did it, but simply the fact that Hiruko absorbed them through another point of his body and when he explained Dark Release, he talked about the Darkness absorbing chakra but not necessarily from one part. Though, as you said it could've been exagerated. Though, even in inhaling maw, did seem to have a fair range of suction power and I say this from when he's fighting against Sakura, Naruto and Sai before Kakashi is saved. He absorbs the chakra from a descending Sai's bird and the ink disperses with no chakra to hold it's shape.

That last thing thing posing another question about absorption of techniques like Earth Release and Water Relase. As stated in the strengths and weaknesses updated thread of yours, Earth and Water are strong to the element and that one couldn't absorb the physical matter, but that doesn't still go for the chakra composed in the technique. If the chakra in say, the earth dragon technique, was absorbed, wouldn't the technique itself be rendered and crumble as there is no sustaining energy source for the earth?