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Re: Lady Gaga reveals gay anthem lyrics

Originally Posted by huntneo

Well, at least the lyrics don't sound as ridiculous when set to music. The production and 'feel' of the song reminds me of Madonna's Express Yourself a little bit. Otherwise, just your general generic 'pop' song with enough of a beat to make some people want to dance. Oh...and inspirational lyrical content...

As expected, it doesn't quite live up to the hype.

The whole purpose of that song is to make discriminated people "OK". Don't you think it would be amazing if a straight guy danced to such a gay song? Well, I do. And if Gaga manages (I think she will) to make them sing it we've got a game changer right here

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I'm really trying to like it. o.O It's just...not...working, but it is awfully bold. I like the beat. But this isn't standard radio fare at all. If anyone else released this song it would be dumped onto the Dance charts and popular radio would never hear it.

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First of all, I don't think it sounds anything like Madonna's "Express Yourself." And if there are parts of it that do, I don't think GaGa did it intentionally. I do think it's a good song, but I agree that it definitely does NOT live up to the hype! Based on her appearance at last year's VMAs, I thought it was going to be a lot more emotional than it is. But I don't think it will flop. I think it will be successful, but maybe not as successful as she thought.

The melody of the verses does sound like something that I've heard before, but I just can't quite remember what it is.

I also thought it would be a LOT more emotional and I was surprised when I first heard it, but in a good way. What could be better than a gay song like this to infiltrate in mainstream pop? What other song that explicitly talks about LGBT people has been a hit? I can't remember any. That's why I wish this song the best, and we all know it will be a hit This is exactly what she said it would be: a celebration. Not a deep over-thought track but one you just want to dance and sing out loud. Gaga made it again, and let's remember this is NOT the only song in the album, I do think there will be deep songs in it

I also like the fact that there is no auto tune in the song. Gaga sounds way better this way

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Originally Posted by -Callum-

Way too overproduced. But we'll hear it on the radios until 2012.

*sigh*

I don't get why is that bad? Or were you expecting a deep, slow tempo, song? I think we all know what kind of song we were getting and I couldn't be happier with it. It will achieve it's purpose and hopefully change a little bit the mentality of some straight people.

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Originally Posted by joshBTW

I don't get why is that bad? Or were you expecting a deep, slow tempo, song? I think we all know what kind of song we were getting and I couldn't be happier with it. It will achieve it's purpose and hopefully change a little bit the mentality of some straight people.

Remember, this one is not the only track in Born This Way...

No. When a song is far too layered (overproduced) the listener can become indifferent toward it. I've listened to this song six times now and have heard it differently every single time.

It's not 'bad' but it's not what she thought it would be, that's for certain.

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No. When a song is far too layered (overproduced) the listener can become indifferent toward it. I've listened to this song six times now and have heard it differently every single time.

It's not 'bad' but it's not what she thought it would be, that's for certain.

She thought it would be a celebration of what we are and a way to change the mentality of the people by infiltrating a song like that in the mainstream pop, and that's exactly what it is. What did you think it was?

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Originally Posted by joshBTW

She thought it would be a celebration of what we are and a way to change the mentality of the people by infiltrating a song like that in the mainstream pop, and that's exactly what it is. What did you think it was?

You mean a song full of politically incorrect words is going to change the mentality of people? Yeah, ummm, no.

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Originally Posted by -Callum-

But like any Gaga song they usually take time to grow.

I don't know about you but the only song that needed time to grow in me was Teeth. And I've got to say this one completely hit me once I heard it, in a good way. Like, it was nothing I expected but once I got to the chorus I started getting it and suddenly I was fucking jumping!

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Originally Posted by -Callum-

You mean a song full of politically incorrect words is going to change the mentality of people? Yeah, ummm, no.

Well as I get it she's using those words to show how the worst things about us can be turned into something good. I might be wrong but that's the way I see it. I don't think Gaga would have let words like Chola get in her song by accident, do you?

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Kudos for the intention, but not executed well at all. Terrible lyrics combined with recycled 90's gay-dance. With this said, it does have an empowering vibe and I'm sure it will help a lot of people out there.

Kudos for the intention, but not executed well at all. Terrible lyrics combined with recycled 90's gay-dance. With this said, it does have an empowering vibe and I'm sure it will help a lot of people out there.

I'm sure (well, hoping) her album has some better tracks.

It sure has a lot of Madonna feel to it but the chorus is 100% Gaga, in my opinion. Hopefully it will not only help people but actually change the mentality of some. Only time will tell but this song can achieve a lot.

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I'm very disappointed with BTW. I've always loved Gaga's music but this just sucks. Somewhere Madonna is cringing. As a huge Madonna fan I am appalled by how she shamelessly she ripped off 'Express Yourself'. Not to mention a bunch of other songs I hear in this record:

Pink - God Is A DJ
TLC - Waterfalls
David Guetta - When Love Takes Over

I expected more from you Gaga.

Oh, and about this being the new gay anthem? No. Just no. Thanks for trying but no.

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Originally Posted by joshBTW

Well as I get it she's using those words to show how the worst things about us can be turned into something good. I might be wrong but that's the way I see it. I don't think Gaga would have let words like Chola get in her song by accident, do you?

What? I can say the 'n word' to a lovely tune in a song about empowerment and suddenly it's okay because I'm turning it 'into something good'?

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well u know how gaga acts like she is all for equality and loves the gays and all that shit well her album is now available for preorder exclusively at Target and target have made several donations to Anti-gay causes in the past! LMAO irony much!! does "mother monster" really care?

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Originally Posted by AndrewC88

well u know how gaga acts like she is all for equality and loves the gays and all that shit well her album is now available for preorder exclusively at Target and target have made several donations to Anti-gay causes in the past! LMAO irony much!! does "mother monster" really care?

No, not really. I mean it's obvious she's always been a marketing gimmick created in a NYC boardroom.

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Originally Posted by AndrewC88

well u know how gaga acts like she is all for equality and loves the gays and all that shit well her album is now available for preorder exclusively at Target and target have made several donations to Anti-gay causes in the past! LMAO irony much!! does "mother monster" really care?

If she didn't care about LGBT people she would have stopped her support long ago. Do you realize how risky it is to release a song that explicitly express gay support? One thing is putting a gay couple kissing in a video and another thing is making straight people sing songs about gay people. And in case you are wondering, Gaga's career is strong enough and doesn't depend of gay fans, she's still supporting (and will keep doing it) cause she cares.

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I hate being called a queen. Bottom line. I hate when gays refer to themselves as queens. Sooo don't be a drag just be a queen? I don't find that as my gay anthem. I'll just stick to Fuckin' Perfect by Pink or Firework by Katy Perry.

I didn't like the initial listen. I listened to it again and I still don't like it. Maybe it will grow on me? I have higher hopes for the rest of the album. BUT I do think her support of the gay community is great and the song has a good message. It just hasn't sat well with me just yet.

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I like Gaga but that song doesn't live up to the hype at all. It isn't terrible by any means but it certainly isn't "the song of the decade." It isn't even the song of the month. It's just a fun little dance ditty.

The melody sounds sounds too much like "Express Yourself" and the lyrics are a bit patronizing. (FYI Gaga, not all gay men are drag queens.) While I appreciate Gaga's effort to support the gay community with her music, I feel manipulated and pandered to with Born This Way. A poster at D-Listed summed it up perfectly...

A gay anthem, whether it's "I Will Survive" or "The Man That Got Away," BECOMES a gay anthem because we find ourselves empathizing with the singer's passion or pain or exuberance. It's the realization that their pain is our pain too, that their joy is our joy etc. It's that our commonality has brought us together. It's ALMOST NEVER because it was written FOR GAY MEN TO HELP GAY MEN DEAL WITH BEING GAY MEN. That's just cynical and obvious. Gaga here isn't allowing us the choice of deciding whether or not this song will be a gay anthem (like "Bad Romance"), she's TELLING US that it is, and that makes it somehow less pure and less satisfying. It's contrived. I already feel manipulated.

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This song is boring as hell. Thank god gay men love her. If not for gay men, she would be playing at swap meets.

Originally Posted by Jayden

How is this breaking news when there is a gaga thread with this song in it? This song is such a bad rip off of Madonna's express yourself.

I was going to really lay into you too, Jayden but then I read your blog. Explains allot. I don't know what to say. I literally teared up reading your Feb 6th entry. It shows you just never know what a person is going through. Truth is, I'm not surprised in a way when I think back of reading some of your posts on here since I've been a member. To quote myself from the Whitney thread: "When you see someone whom takes the time just to try and make someone else unhappy, they're just proving how unhappy *they* are. Everyone knows, when you're truly happy in your life, you naturally want everyone else to be happy in theirs. Yes, even those that have done you wrong." I think they're a so many members on this forum, in this very thread, that are in the same predicament you are in.
I'm in a really really good place in my life right now, so maybe I can't completely identify with you, but I also think there is such a thing as Karma. If you send out negative vibes, they come right back to you. Even if life is really hard, and it's hard at times for everyone, I think it's important to stay positive. You'd be surprised how much brightening someone else's day will brighten yours.
I'm so sorry things are the way they are for you right now, Jayden. Stay positive and don't let life make you bitter. Please. Things will work out for you. Just keep going.

^This applies everyone.

Now as for the rest of you 2faced fuckers: I'm coming back later. Oh yes!

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Well, her lyric writing has never been her strong point so I wasn't exactly expecting Bruce Springstein. I think it's nice that she made a pro gay song, good for her. She's repaying the community who made her millions of dollars. Is she really calling it the Gay Anthem? If so, that's presumptuous.

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Well... that was a patronizing lecture.

Not that I disagree with you re: the power of positive thinking, but how does the quality of Jayden's life have anything to do with his opinion of Lady Gaga's song? You seem to have this notion that if someone dislikes something you deem as brilliant, it's because they hate themselves or they have a negative outlook on life, which is quite an inaccurate assumption, IMO.

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Originally Posted by Salemite

I like Gaga but that song doesn't live up to the hype at all. It isn't terrible by any means but it certainly isn't "the song of the decade." It isn't even the song of the month. It's just a fun little dance ditty.

The melody sounds sounds too much like "Express Yourself" and the lyrics are a bit patronizing. (FYI Gaga, not all gay men are drag queens.) While I appreciate Gaga's effort to support the gay community with her music, I feel manipulated and pandered to with Born This Way. A poster at D-Listed summed it up perfectly...

Gaga has never, ever said this is a gay anthem. Elton John said it. Perez Hilton said it. Websites have written it non stop. Gaga has NEVER said something like that, or not that I know.

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Why is everyone saying SHE said it's a gay anthem? She never, ever said that. Elton said it, Perez said it. Gaga NEVER said something like that.

Stop making up stuff guys -.-

This is true. Elton started the whole gay anthem thing. Problem is, GaGa hasn't said anything to dispel this - which is why there's so much disappointment with this effort of a song. Also, as has been said elsewhere, you can't set out to write a gay anthem. A straightforawrd song becomes a gay anthem - and it certainly won't be this one!

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Originally Posted by quasar

This is true. Elton started the whole gay anthem thing. Problem is, GaGa hasn't said anything to dispel this - which is why there's so much disappointment with this effort of a song. Also, as has been said elsewhere, you can't set out to write a gay anthem. A straightforawrd song becomes a gay anthem - and it certainly won't be this one!

Why would Gaga dispel it? I mean I would understand if you guys were pissed off if Gaga had called it gay anthem herself but I see no reason why she would have to diss her own record. She's more smart and just stays quiet about it. She might talk about that in her interview about Born This Way tho, it will be aired this Sunday before the Grammys.

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I don't mind You and I...I actually think her voice better suits the rock genre. It's really bothering me...that clashing noise in the song. I have no idea what would make that aside from a computer imploding.

I think the only redeeming quality of the song is I can't hear any Auto Tune. Which is a refreshing change.

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I'll admit, I've struggled with my opinion of this song. I wanted to like it, but I just can't.

I love GaGa, but I don't love this song. I understand what she's trying to say, but that's not exactly what she says. The lyrics are, in my opinion, not written very well. I don't like her calling latino people "cholas," because I think it's very stereotypical. Not all latino people are "cholas." A "chola" isn't a race.

I also don't like the line in the first verse where she says, "There's nothin' wrong with lovin' who you are, because He made you perfect." I know what she meant to say, but that's not exactly how it came out. I'm worried that many people (young people especially) will hear this song and take those lyrics the wrong way. Nobody is perfect.

I do love GaGa, though. I just don't like this song. Hopefully, the rest of the album is better.

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Originally Posted by Salemite

Well... that was a patronizing lecture.

Not that I disagree with you re: the power of positive thinking, but how does the quality of Jayden's life have anything to do with his opinion of Lady Gaga's song? You seem to have this notion that if someone dislikes something you deem as brilliant, it's because they hate themselves or they have a negative outlook on life, which is quite an inaccurate assumption, IMO.

No, like I said this doesn't just apply to what he said in this thread (if at all really). I've read other comments here and there. It's in general.
IMO opinion some people should mind their own business. But that's just me.

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Originally Posted by FanofFiction

Well, her lyric writing has never been her strong point so I wasn't exactly expecting Bruce Springstein. I think it's nice that she made a pro gay song, good for her. She's repaying the community who made her millions of dollars. Is she really calling it the Gay Anthem? If so, that's presumptuous.

From her recent Vogue interview:

"I am a talented entertainer. I consider myself to have one of the greatest voices in the industry. I consider myself to be one of the greatest songwriters. "

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"I am a talented entertainer. I consider myself to have one of the greatest voices in the industry. I consider myself to be one of the greatest songwriters. "

I never said she didn't brag at all (and I don't disagree with anything she said), but that she would have promoted her single as the new gay anthem would have been another completely different thing. It wouldn't be about bragging but about trying to impose herself in the LGBt community which would have been wrong.

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Originally Posted by joshBTW

I never said she didn't brag at all (and I don't disagree with anything she said), but that she would have promoted her single as the new gay anthem would have been another completely different thing. It wouldn't be about bragging but about trying to impose herself in the LGBt community which would have been wrong.

I didn't quote you, or claim she titled the song an anthem. The fact you agree that "don't be a drag, be a Queen" is the work of one of the world's greatest song writers suggests that you're a big Gaga fan and that you have a biassed opinion.

I love a lot of her music and predicted that I would love this track despite the lyrics (I was wrong) but her claims are delusional.

I've seen/read a lot of recent interviews where she praises herself and/or speaks down to the interviewer. This kind of attitude puts me off an artist tbh.

I can't wait to hear the album though, I hope it follows a similar recipe to The Fame/The Fame Monster, not the recipe used for Born This Way.

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Originally Posted by AndrewC88

well u know how gaga acts like she is all for equality and loves the gays and all that shit well her album is now available for preorder exclusively at Target and target have made several donations to Anti-gay causes in the past! LMAO irony much!! does "mother monster" really care?

Ahem...aHRM...U mean like Britney supporting and trusting Anti-gay George W. Bush? "...Trust our President in every decision that he makes and we should just support that, and be faithful..." But, let me guess, Britney's FOR gay marriage right? Britney's core fan base arguably consists of gay men, and she says she's FOR gay marriage!? What a shocker! lol
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Originally Posted by Nocturnal

Ahem...aHRM...U mean like Britney supporting and trusting Anti-gay George W. Bush? "...Trust our President in every decision that he makes and we should just support that, and be faithful..." But, let me guess, Britney's FOR gay marriage right? Britney's core fan base arguably consists of gay men, and she says she's FOR gay marriage!? What a shocker! lolhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grvpyepkD2o