They just beat ND - we lost to TCU and you are claiming we are better off now than when we had Cheney? There are plenty of articles out there talking about the improved Georgia program and superior staff that Smart has assembled.

UGA fans are whining about the terrible playcalling already this year. They still aren't enamored with the Oline play either. Most of their fans know it's a matter of time before Chaney is let go for a better hire.

Georgia saw how much they sucked and decided to hire both of them....then they beat ND

.....and we have awesome coaches, did you watch us tear it up on Sat?

I agree with all on here with Chaney wasn't a good fit but Pittman was loved by his players and fans alike. I knew guys that played on Pittman's OL and they loved everything about him. When Pittman bolted, the Hogs OL was upset and wanted nothing to do with his replacement. But like we all know it's a business.

I hear what you're saying if Chaney sucks so much how did he end up at UGA? Well the same can be said for Rob Smith ending up at Minn with PJ Fleck or Smiley coaching at Kentucky State University (had to do it). Sometimes coaches are just a better fit elsewhere.

They just beat ND....are you saying we have upgraded since Cheney / Pittman were here?

Speaking of looking terrible - we just LOST to TCU and didn't exactly look dominant.

I don't hear you making a sound argument about Georgia and those coaches. I just hear you arguing that we suck right now. Which I get, but the two don't have anything to do with one another.

I think you're just looking for something to rationalize why we suck right now. If it was as simple as hiring the right coaches and keeping them -- assuming that coaching was black and white, meaning you're either good or you're bad -- then there would be more than one to three programs who are legit National Title contenders.

The truth is, there are a million tiny, infintesimal reasons a program is what it is. It's not just a head coach -- it's not just a 5* QB. It's way more complicated than that. That's why Arkansas football has been a middle of the rung SEC West school for decades and it's the same reason why Alabama has been a powerhouse program for decades.

The shape of college football and their programs shift and change very, very slowly, like a river bank carving through a mountain range. Every now and then there is a monumental happening, an earthquake or a landslide, like us moving to the SEC in 1992. But for the most part -- those things happen very rarely. And until something like that happens for Arkansas football again, something on that level, we're going to continue to be a top 35-30 football program.

Now, I think it's totally possible that a coach can be that monumental happening. But, I also think those coaches only come along once in a lifetime. And it's easy to see in hindsight that Saban was one of those guys. But for a program to get a guy like Saban, they have to bet on him early in his career, hope that he turns out to be Saban-esque, and on top of that, hope that this once in a generational coach comes along and sticks around. Meaning he doesn't get lured by the already bigger, more established programs... or he doesn't burn out.

All that to say, in the grand scheme of things... I don't think Pittman or Chaney played any massive role in Arkansas football one way or the other. If they did... you'd know it.

I agree with all on here with Chaney wasn't a good fit but Pittman was loved by his players and fans alike. I knew guys that played on Pittman's OL and they loved everything about him. When Pittman bolted, the Hogs OL was upset and wanted nothing to do with his replacement. But like we all know it's a business.

I hear what you're saying if Chaney sucks so much how did he end up at UGA? Well the same can be said for Rob Smith ending up at Minn with PJ Fleck or Smiley coaching at Kentucky State University (had to do it). Sometimes coaches are just a better fit elsewhere.

Minn and Kentucky St are far different programs than Georgia. Georgia is a step up from Ark - I don't think we can argue that

Minn and Kentucky St are far different programs than Georgia. Georgia is a step up from Ark - I don't think we can argue that

I can agree only due to UGA's tenure in the SEC and Georgia is a recruiting hot bed in comparison to Arkansas as of late. Chaney's play calling pissed away some games the Hogs should've won. I was (like many of us) was a Sam Pittman fan because how he recruited and developed OL. CDE has some work cut out for him because of success (for the most part) last season. I'm still not sold on CKA and his development of OL. I would love to have seen CDE and Pittman run the Hogs offense but pipe dreams are just that.

I think if I can remember correctly, HV celebrated when Chaney left...Just sayin

Nobody agrees with every hire - not all of Georgia likes the hire, some of them do. They have a good top 25 win under their belts and they have momentum going into conference comp. - we can't say the same. The trajectory of our program in not going up at the moment - the Georgia program is moving in a positive direction.

We have Enos / CBB in year 5....we are stagnant and w/o identity

Georgia has Cheney / Smart in 3...they are seen as an up and comer with a recent, nationally televised top 25 win

Nobody agrees with every hire - not all of Georgia likes the hire, some of them do. They have a good top 25 win under their belts and they have momentum going into conference comp. - we can't say the same. The trajectory of our program in not going up at the moment - the Georgia program is moving in a positive direction.

We have Enos / CBB in year 5....we are stagnant and w/o identity

Georgia has Cheney / Smart in 3...they are seen as an up and comer with a recent, nationally televised top 25 win

We lost to a team the "experts" picked us to lose. UGA beat a team that although in top 25, most "experts" picked them to beat. Sky aint fallin' yet. I think we are going to finish with a good year and TCU will finish much better than we think! If we lose to A&M, OM, Miss St, USCe and MIZZOU I'll push you out of the way to get to the ledge first

Nobody agrees with every hire - not all of Georgia likes the hire, some of them do. They have a good top 25 win under their belts and they have momentum going into conference comp. - we can't say the same. The trajectory of our program in not going up at the moment - the Georgia program is moving in a positive direction.

We have Enos / CBB in year 5....we are stagnant and w/o identity

Georgia has Cheney / Smart in 3...they are seen as an up and comer with a recent, nationally televised top 25 win

Which isn't the point you made in the OP at all. Are you backing away from that now tomkake your new point or....?

Nobody agrees with every hire - not all of Georgia likes the hire, some of them do. They have a good top 25 win under their belts and they have momentum going into conference comp. - we can't say the same. The trajectory of our program in not going up at the moment - the Georgia program is moving in a positive direction.

We have Enos / CBB in year 5....we are stagnant and w/o identity

Georgia has Cheney / Smart in 3...they are seen as an up and comer with a recent, nationally televised top 25 win

You have gotta be kidding with all this dude...seriously. Chaney is garbage...you would like to have him back getting stuck in elevators and teaching our qbs? Can you imagine him on the field actually coaching drills with the qbs? No chance man.

Nobody agrees with every hire - not all of Georgia likes the hire, some of them do. They have a good top 25 win under their belts and they have momentum going into conference comp. - we can't say the same. The trajectory of our program in not going up at the moment - the Georgia program is moving in a positive direction.

We have Enos / CBB in year 5....we are stagnant and w/o identity

Georgia has Cheney / Smart in 3...they are seen as an up and comer with a recent, nationally televised top 25 win