Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

JCoz wrote:I'm starting to hear whispers that OSU received the letter already and that no additional penalties will be levied beyond those already self imposed.

Sounds too good to be true, I figured on at least a couple more schollys lost and maybe somemore probation, and I still thought worst case scenario could yield a 1 year bowl ban.

Hopefully its true

I never believed there would be a bowl ban unless they took us all the way to LOIC. I am really surprised that the NCAA didn't throw in some notional additional penalties to at least attempt to continue the facade that they are running the show.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

I didn't think it was likely that we would get a bowl ban, but there is no telling with the NCAA. I thought there was NO WAY until we received the FTM charge. I know precedent says nobody gets it for FTM but still, it could be there in a worst case scenario IMO.

I didn't think it was likely that we would get a bowl ban, but there is no telling with the NCAA. I thought there was NO WAY until we received the FTM charge. I know precedent says nobody gets it for FTM but still, it could be there in a worst case scenario IMO.

But I absolutely thought more ships would/will be taken. We'll see

Lots of rumors about releasing tomorrow, but nothing solid. Sounds like tOSU's sanctions will stand if the rumors are true. We got a little insight into the potential sanctions when Dodd twitted that tOSU was going to ruin his holidays for a second straight year. It is no secret that Penis Dodd things the Buckeyes should be massacred for tattgate.

I wonder where his shock and disgust is for Miami, UNC, USC, Boise St., $cam Newton, 'Bama (and Julio Jones' $20K in suits, oh yeah, how did Trent Richardson pay for his 50K SUV?), Oregon and so on. There are so many far worse scandals than tOSU that is pretty shocking.

I am really shocked, honestly (no BS), that Chip Kelly still has a job. He shouldn't.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

JCoz wrote:Give it time furls, see what the NCAA investigation turns up.

The investigation will only turn up what journalists discover via freedom of information act disclosures. The NCAA will get nothing out of Oregon.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

Hearing one extra scholly docked, no bowl ban, but Tress getting hammered hard with 3-5 year show cause.

Hooley was on Patricks show in his usual form, that Meyer proves nothing changed in Cbus, that USC fans should be up in arms, etc. Patrick was saying he was glad they hammered Tress because its about time they took it to coaches...

The show cause penalty for Tressel of 3-5 years is consistent with past practice. In fact, given the nature of the violations, five years would probably be more appropriate than three, if you take past precedent as your guide. It's another reason why it was so silly to be linking JT to other college jobs in recent weeks. A show cause finding was a no-brainer, and it makes him radioactive to other schools...virtually unhireable. (spellcheck says that's not a word)

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

I'm expecting a one-year bowl ban effective for next year. Many people close to the team do not think they're going to get one, but I think the NCAA is too conscious of public opinion to let the program off with just self-inflicted penalties. In fact I think a one year ban is more likely than any scholarship reductions beyond the five they self-imposed.

Of course, even that will not be enough for some people.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

JCoz wrote:Dan I thought it was always a possibility. But it's worth noting that it would not be consistant with precedant, as Furls did above.

True enough. I'm just figuring on the NCAA being as arbitrary and political as they have so often shown themselves to be. And if they do give OSU a one-year ban, it will be hard for even the most ardent OSU fan to make a case that it's unfair punishment.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

JCoz wrote:Dan I thought it was always a possibility. But it's worth noting that it would not be consistant with precedant, as Furls did above.

True enough. I'm just figuring on the NCAA being as arbitrary and political as they have so often shown themselves to be. And if they do give OSU a one-year ban, it will be hard for even the most ardent OSU fan to make a case that it's unfair punishment.

I wouldn't agrue that, but I would find it an especially spitefull move in that the NCAA took this much time to announce it, instead of punishing the team this season, you know, the one that still has some of those players that caused the trouble actually ON it.

JCoz wrote:Dan I thought it was always a possibility. But it's worth noting that it would not be consistant with precedant, as Furls did above.

True enough. I'm just figuring on the NCAA being as arbitrary and political as they have so often shown themselves to be. And if they do give OSU a one-year ban, it will be hard for even the most ardent OSU fan to make a case that it's unfair punishment.

I wouldn't agrue that, but I would find it an especially spitefull move in that the NCAA took this much time to announce it, instead of punishing the team this season, you know, the one that still has some of those players that caused the trouble actually ON it.

The pre-announcement sentiment at Scout seems to be that Smith should lose his job immediately if they get a bowl ban for next year, because with all his vaunted connections, he should have been aware that a ban was coming soon enough to self-impose it for this year and get it out of the way...something we've been saying here for months. At best, if there is a ban, Smith will be looking extremely foolish, and they will have a lot to answer for with some 2012 recruits.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

Also, Coz, you have to keep in mind how destroyed the NCAA got with investigations over the last year. The guys at Scout seem to think that the NCAA has wanted to get rid of this OSU decision for awhile but has just been taking new investigation responsibilities on one after another.

Most people are trusting in the word of nevada that there will be no ban....but various folks are hearing from "sources" that are saying otherwise...who knows how credible they may be. For me, an announcement of a penalty that is essentially "time served", plus a show cause for JT (which affects the OSU program not one bit) seems too good to be true.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

danwismar wrote:Most people are trusting in the word of nevada that there will be no ban....but various folks are hearing from "sources" that are saying otherwise...who knows how credible they may be. For me, an announcement of a penalty that is essentially "time served", plus a show cause for JT (which affects the OSU program not one bit) seems too good to be true.

Hard to believe that anyone would take his word on this particular topic.

Smith lied to a lot of people (or overestimated his connections). He should be fired today, seriously.

Dan is exactly right, this is about public opinion, not infractions. Watch the penalty Miami gets for that shitstorm, it will be worse but not orders of magnitude worse.

As for 9 schollies over 3 years... big deal. Tressel typically undersigned by 3 every year.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

Forget about buckeye fan hurt feelings, and wanting to go to a bowl game and anger with accepting this shitty bowl when MANY thought the right thing to do was to be pro-active with a post season ban. Forget about that.

In straight dollars and cents, the reality of the situation is that his arrogance in NOT being preemptive could cost the university millions of dollars in B1G championship and Bowl payouts in 2012.