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Hello everyone, So, I'm in the process of making a new wizard character. If I'm remembering right, I'm a chaotic neutral. The campaign starts at level three. I'm trying to choose my magic school, and I'm stuck between Evocation and Necromancy. I'm leaning more towards the latter, but would that work with my allignment?

Actually a lawful good necromancer would be a fun character to play. I remember the monster manual entry for Liches actually said that lawful good liches had been rumoured to exist, but put most of the alignment as lawful evil. Then again, all of the D&D alignments are a little open to interpretation anyway, since chaotic neutral could just be read as simply unpredictable, or could be read as a ranting psycho depending upon how youterm Chaotic.

Likewise, if I recall rightly in D&D terms good and evil basically translated to either self or other regarding, but even that didn't necessarily cover the basis since a person can be selfish and yet can still be a pretty charming and decent person, just not someone who goes out of their way to help others, and a person could be selfless in terms of them not putting their own interests first, but what if they put the interests of something larger than themselves, eg, a fanatical religious inquisitor might be quite selfless in that they are quite prepared to die for the cause, the problem is they're also prepared to do lots of nasty things to everyone else in the name of the cause .

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see, Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

This is an interesting question. I've recently started playing alter aeon again after a couple years. My primary class is necromancy. However, I strive to be non-evil in my actions, just for the contradiction, as the initial instinct is that necs are evil, given the association with demons and the undead. And while I am not above killing the occasional good player, I do not do so indiscriminately. It is usually done when I wish to take control of the player to make them a minion, and when that goal is absolutely necessary to protect myself during combat. When I initially read up on the different classes, I wondered whether nec/cleric would clash, given that clerics are very anti-undead and demons, so diametrically opposed to necromancers. I have found that clerics, however, are very useful in terms of healing.

As for D&D, I initially was told as a child how evil it was, that it was Satanic. And there have been isolated cases where D&D has been blamed for some murders. However, I've watched games of D&D; I even played briefly. That doesn't make me evil, and I know very well that it is a world of imagination. It is my opinion that the way one handles their actions in the real world with respect to such things determines good or evil. And I suspect that those murders that were blamed on D&D, even if there was some aspect truly involved, that aspect was created by an underlying mental disease that affected the player's conceptions of reality.

Dark, that's a fair point. J. if you like watching dnd games look at critical roll they do or did at one point a game almost everywewek and posted it on youtube it's or it was played by different voice actors. and it's through geek and sundry

@J, actually as I recall in Alteraeon it's stated that necromancers actually don't mess about with the spirits of the dead, they just use the energy created when the soul departs the body to do things like animate the body trade with demons etc, energy that is usually lost, thus in Alteraeon Necros are more like preservers than people actually messing around with souls, one reason why all the quests involving evil necromancers are specifically said to be about disturbing ghosts etc, hence why necro cleric can work, and hay, just because your a cleric doesn't mean your all fluffy and good either, look at spells such cause instead of cure etc, hell Alteraeon even has some bloody evil druids as opponents, which is definitely nice and good for the mythos imho.

As to D&D being satanic, again it's only the ultra religious right Christians who tend to think as much, (and more often than not the ones in the States, in years of tabletop rp I've never heard that opinion voiced over here). the majority of people with that opinion haven't actually played D&d before, this is actually a debate my lady has had often with her parents who were a bit that way, she usually tries to point out that God never commanded people not to have an imagination.

As to where I got the monster's manual, a long time ago I got a disk with all of the 2nd edition D&D books on it in ms word format. I read the monster's manual just for pure interest and because I'm a weird enough person to enjoy reading about the mating habbits of sprigan or how exactly to kill an aurum vorax .

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see, Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

If you got any 5th Ed. Stuff I'd be apreciative if you could send it my way? let me know can give you email or whatever. dnd reader hasn't come out yet to my knowledge so.. . In my last campaign that i just finished i played a monk. He was lvl 17 and honestly at that level monks along with a few other classes are quite broken. but we got ot fight Tiamot the worm. with 7 heads i think it was pretty cool.

I don't have any fifth ed stuff at the moment, actually as far as I understand the combat rules have nearly turned D&D into a tabletop war game which is a shame. Then again I've not played any D&D since 3rd ed, I played mutants and masterminds which is a superhero themed game based on the d&D rule set though with some fairly major differences for quite a long while, and I've played several games of 7th sea.

The 2nd ed monster's manual and other books I enjoyed for the descriptions and text as much as the rules,. indeed a Gm friend of mine said the quality of that sort of thing had gone down in the recent supplements though I'm not sure not having read them.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see, Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

My dm is more a roleplayer than into combat she does not make it a war game whicch I'm thhankful for. I understand though where you're coming from however. I've not tried mutants and master minds though I've wanted to. I'm not familiar with seventh sea I'll have to do some research.

For someone who is really not a major fan of superheros I will say our mutants game was very awesome, going on for a straight 7 years most Saturdays and stopping primarily because the gm's wife (who was also one of the players), went and had a baby. Then again to say our group of heroes included a manifest angel, a half fae changeling, my character managed to find a magitech powered ancient Egyptian battle suit, a superscientist from a world called earth pulp and a manifestation of a sungod it was pretty eclectic, particularly since we managed to travel everywhere from the general freedom city, arcadia the home of the Fae, space, atlantis and various extra dimentional planes.

7th sea is a wonderfully none serious take on medieval Europe with everything from musketeers to the Spanish inquisition to Britain under king Arthur, all with a lot of the sort of hammy historical film vibe. The combat lets you specialise in being flashing and taking out many henchmen at one go. Last game we played was my lady's first, she played a knife wielding very laconic assassin, while I was a wide eyed innocent Italian fate witch who could mess with people's emotions, though had little idea what the heck she was doing.

I particularly enjoyed falling in love with the wrong person and accidently spilling all of the secrets of who was who's lost brother after someone had nearly killed me .

We actually need to find someone doing tabletop rp around here, particularly since my lady played 7th sea for the first time and really enjoyed it.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see, Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)

well. maybe we could do a skype venture? I'm game. just need to find time that would work for you since you're over a cross the pond. I'm not opposed to a skype tabletop. though, I feel I'd make a crappy dm. One more question have you or do you know anyone who is blind who's used roll 20 or discord server?

I'm not sure on skype since I first have to get skype sorted (and my attempts with mikes on this windows 10 machine have been rather disasterous), and then even when the dam thing is sorted finding time could be interesting as you said.

I'm certainly not against the idea, though it probably isn't doable at the moment, indeed given we've just moved cities it'd be nice to find people doing tabletop, ---- well around a table .

For toolsI just confined myself to a laptop with a convenient dice program like good old gma dice, actually gma dice has the advantage of changing roll presets which is good, though it'd be nice to actually get some physical dice I could roll.

When I first played D&D back in the early two thousandsmy mum and I managed to label a standard set of D&D dice, we failed with the D20 owing to the faces being of such small size.

I've also just been at games where people roll for me which works so long as most of what your doing is actual rp and you don't have one of those gms who plays tabletop games as though they were a stat crunching rpg, ---- which are not fun.

With our dreaming and singing, Ceaseless and sorrowless we! The glory about us clinging Of the glorious futures we see, Our souls with high music ringing; O men! It must ever be That we dwell in our dreaming and singing, A little apart from ye. (Arthur O'Shaughnessy 1873.)