So I was watching the video posted there, and it has in it a copy of Price destroying Subban with a hit after the OT win at the end of the season. I remember, right after the game, seeing a locker-room interview with Price where he says, with a goofy grin on his face that he ‘buried him’.

I can’t seem to find that clip anymore. Anyone know where I can find it?

Not anytime soon. Currently negotiating to obtain the broadcasting rights. Last time we went through something like that, was the introduction to tsn2 and that took months to finally get those rights. I’m an employee so if i hear anything more definate then “we’re working on it”, I’ll let ya know

I’m currently listening to Hockey Central on Fan590 radio and Jacques Martin is a guest and I can’t think of two men who love each other more than Martin and Doug MacLean. JM can’t get through a sentence without giggling because of Mac’s jokes. It’s so unbelievably odd to hear him happy and it only ever happens when he’s a guest on Hockey Central when MacLean is hosting. Telling old stories when they used to work together. It’s actually very amusing and pretty strange.

You’ll never hear a more candid interview with Martin than when you listen to him on Hockey Central.

Yes I heard it on my Iphone and recorded it, I thought this guy was not capable of sounding happy but he is having a ball. I was going to post it here but I am not sure of the rules since it is Sportsnet590 content. Nice McLean a big Hockey guy and had no idea who Diaz was.

I’m writing a thing for work and used “Bonne chance” in reference to applying for our office in Paris (it’s in English, just added the French phrase for fun); however, someone at work was saying that it’s more of a Quebecois phrase though. Apparently, bon courage is more commonly used in France.

Anyone know? Realize this is totally unrelated to the Habs, so feel free to ignore.

One is very passive (Bonne chance) and shows a receptive attitude. The other (Bon courage) shows a more active, challenging and aggressive response.
Either depends on the context.
Some will even include both: « Bon courage à certains, bonne chance aux autres! »
If you foresee working with them, you can always say:
« Au plaisir de travailler avec vous. »

Forget Giroux. In the following year Philly committed an even great heist when they selected homeboy (Boucherville) Kevin Marshall two spots before Montreal’s turn. Montreal was left with meager pickings and ended up wasting a pick on some kid named PK Subban (anyone know if he’s still in hockey?) Oh to have Marshall and his 23 points in 153 career AHL games.

Cherry is not a censorship issue. He has the right to say what he wants (more or less) on a soapbox in the park or wherever. But broadcasters or the public have the right to set the criteria for what is appropriate for their particular airwaves. True censorship has to do with politics and boards etc and not with private or even public corporations deeming what is acceptable within their domains. It’s kind of like HIO moderating comments. It’s their site, and they get the final say.

Also, censorship and libel are two different things. If the players do decide to pursue action (I doubt they will), than it’s up for the courts to decide if their reputations defamed by Cherry to the extent that it would have an effect on their standing in the community or work life.

If the courts deem that they were…the CBC, as the medium that broadcasted the libel, is on the hook for it.

But to your point, I totally agree. The CBC has standards that they continually lower for Cherry and it’s shameful. It’s definitely not censorship to say this doesn’t accord with our standards of journalism or values

Claude Giroux is really starting to come into his own. I think he could be in contention for the scoring title if Crosby is delayed returning to action. To think the Habs picked 2 picks ahead of the Flyers in 2006. The french media would have treated him like Richard, Beliveau, Lafleur and Roy rolled into one, they’re so starved for a francophone star. Who did good old BG pick instead……….Well, the one David Fischer! Along with the Kostitsyn year, BG’s biggest first round mistake.

Claude Giroux is a fantastic hockey player. I have him in my hockey pool and I’m confident he’s going to perform above my expectations, especially with the increase in opportunities he’ll have with Carter and Richards gone.

He could be top 10 in scoring this season, but I can’t see him seriously contending for the art ross.

I won’t even bother diving into the “what if” scenerios associated with past drafts. Hindsight is 20/20.

and up until some of last season and now, no one heard of him. The joys and pains of drafting is you never know what you’re gonna get. Some fans understand that, but most don’t. It’s the difference between knowing hockey and just talking it.

All thirty teams in the NHL could have had PK. Same with that kid Gallagher that everyone’s ranting about these days.

Pacioretty at 22nd…

The Wild picked Bambi Pouliot before Price.

Every team gets their diamond in the rough. Drafting isn’t a science, and Fischer was a big defenceman who skated well (McDonagh is a case in point that Minnesota ‘Mr. Hockey’ players aren’t necessarily a wasted pick). He didn’t pan out.

You want me to go over the names of defencemen picked before PK in his draft year?

Giroux is great, but, he is proving his greatness in Philly. No one can know for sure how he would have done here in Montreal (couldn’t have been worse than Fischer, that much I’m sure we could all agree on.) I’m thinking he wouldn’t be the same player though, being that Montreal doesn’t seem like the greatest place to play if you are French Canadian, IMO. With all the pressure from the media, it must be hard to focus on your game. I remember Latendresse, in his first or second preseason with the Canadiens, looking solid, and having everyone chant “GUI GUI GUI” reminiscent of “GUY GUY GUY” (Lafleur, not Charbonneau.) Along with all the media hype being a bigger guy, and the next greatest thing to come out of this province, showing flashes of potential, comparisons to Habs legends, etc etc. Well, we all know how that turned out. Leaves the pressure cooker that is Montreal, lands on the Wild, has a great, if shortlived first season in Minny, and has floundered due to some awful luck with injuries. The point being, no pressure there, no comparisons to great players of yore, and no being mounted on a pedestal simply because of what language he speaks had taken away all the distractions, and allowed him to play his game…

Can someone clarify something here?
The rampant rumour mill here (on HIO?…..NO!) has Markov skiing in the Alps.
If there was one thing that is more demanding on the knees than playing hockey, it’s skiing.
I don’t see how the organization can allow this.
I’d like to see some proof.

I remember posting before we signed and after we sighed AM that we should have signed Wiz instead because we did about the condition of AM’s leg and if and when he would come back. Now we have no Wiz , no AM (and I believe he will not return to his former self and if he does after one game vs. the Broons he’ll be gone again). I realize PG was is a no win position. If AM came back and played great and we have him signed he looks like a genius. If he does not come back he looks like a fool. I guess that’s why they pay him the big bucks , however PG should have gone back into our recent history with players who injured their knees/legs in their UFA years. We never re-signed them ( amid howls of protest on this site) and I don’t believe any of the players had a good sesaon next year. SS, KOMO, MS, AT to name a few.

I wish I had known there was people clammoring at the time to sign Wiz instead of Markov. I had no idea that concept was being floated, and I for one would have loved to jump on that bandwagon at the time. Alas it is too late for me.

It’s fine, I love ridiculous and true stuff!
Also it’s mostly amusing to me how people clamor for the Wiz and they had such similar injuries, I know Markov got it slightly worse but still, Wiz is proof that such injury can be overcome.

Difference being the Wiz recovered and is playing *now*. I won’t lie – I’m done with having injury prone seasons and I want some success now rather than waiting for our current rising stars to leave us for a better team.

Get rid of the deadweights, the overpaid has beens and the injury prone. I want to watch some hockey without having to resort to “well of course the habs lost, they are missing their top d, top 6, etc”. It’s pathetic really. No more excuses.

Well what can I tell you? It’s not like PG can shake up the team during the season. Can’t get rid of the deadweights right now, they still have contracts, and who would want to trade for deadweights?
The overpaid are still on contracts, and I keep being told sending player x into the minors would demoralize the team.

Wiz at 6Y/33M is a joke, I love Wiz, and wanted him when the Ducks wanted to get ride of him, he is a number 3 D-men that needs to play with a good defensive men to be effective. He has also had 3MCL/ACL injuries the same knee, and with his aggressive style, he is more likely to hurt it again (he re-injured it in a fight once). I’ll take Markov at 5.75 3 years compared to Wiz everyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

Case for Markov:
Long time Hab leader, perhaps helped to bring Emelin over, PP is #1 with him playing, came through MTLs system. + sign him long term, if he does not heal then they can replace his $$ opening up cap and an opportunity to Weber, Diaz and Emelin to play with Markov hurt.
The con…status of his knee / overall durability.

Wiz:
Tough, slick with the puck, booming shot. Can fight, massive point shot.
Con – wanted a LONG term, $$ could go to forwards, committment to him / level of play in 3 yrs?…losing Markov to a playoff team and having him put up 50 pts would result in Gauthier hanging. Also, signing Wiz would result in no Cole, and with 85% of the teams D in the final yr / RFA, you would lose an opportunity to see Weber, Diaz and Emelin with signifiacant ice time and opportunity to sign a FA this summer.

Well not the next year but the first full year later Tanguay had 69 pts, Souray 58 and Komo had 10 (career high 19). Forgive me, but do you mean Mathieu Schneider? The guy who retired at the end of the 09-10 season at 40 years old?

It’s easy to shit on the Markov signing now when we don’t know anything. He’s a far superior player to Wiz, a leader on the ice and in the locker room, not to mention a life long Hab. The notion that PG has made a mistake before the dude has even played a game is asinine. It’s in the same league of absurdity with PG signing guys without doing medical background checks. This is pro sports. Millions of dollars. Markov is experiencing an unexpected set back. Let’s just wait and see how this year plays out. I am willing to wait for Markov and am happy to not have to sit through Wiz turnovers and his impulsive, aggressive, penalty taking boners.

If we post this enough, Eklund will eventually have to believe it and start posting on his website.

On a side note, my nephew is a big Leaf fan and he and his cronies are trying to start a big facebook movement to get Heatley voted as a First Team AllStar in Ottawa this year just to piss off the Senator Fans. I was quite proud of him, thought that was pretty funny.

someone had posted on TSN about the Leafs vs Sens….Every time of the 6 meetings this year that the leafs play the sens the sens have a game the night before. I didn’t believe it until I looked at the schedule. I think the League really is trying to get them into the playoffs.

I would love to see a breakdown of the number of back-to-backs for all the NHL teams and also the number of teams playing a team that played the night before. My guess is TOR and NYR get lots of teams on the back-end of a back-to-back.

Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

I wasn”t sure about Varlamov, but he’s looked pretty good for them so far. The AVs have to play well to lessen the blow of that trade. Giving their 1st RDer to WSH for Varlamov was very risky, it could amount to a top 5 pick.

I’m shocked by the Flyers. Maybe they will come back down to Earth soon. I didn’t even think they would make the playoffs this year….

Chrisadiens and HabFan10912, one of the few father son tandems on HIO.

I brought that up the other day. Ridiculous how one sided that trade was. In fact, it was a complete salary dump, and I actually think the NHL should have investigated it. Clearly Nashville had no intention of even considering either Toronto Player (Lebda and Robert Slaney, now with the Milwaukee Admirals playing for Capt. Kirk) and were simply undloading 2 salaries.

Any talk of Don Cherry being removed from HNIC is silly. It won’t happen, and moreover, it should not, at least not for the reasons being given. I don’t like him, so I don’t watch or listen to him. I won’t let my son either, because I want him to have fun playing hockey, period. But it’s still a free country and people can at what they like, and there should be no talk of censorship.

Would I like to see him retire? Yea. He’s no longer interesting or relevant, and I seriouly resent the fact that my tax dollars support him in any way (which is the only valid argument that could be used to fire him) but he can say what he wants as far I’m concerned. I just won’t be on that channel myself.

as long as people here, and for that matter everywhere keep talking about him, HNIC will keep him on the payroll, all it means is people are tuned in…If everyone stopped talking about him, maybe he would just go away!!!!

Well I don’t know if it’s silly. With free speech you can say what you want (within safety limits) but the flip side is you are responsible for those comments. With Cheery a few things have become very clear, he is ignorant of the facts and he doesn’t care.

He readily admits he doesn’t watch the Shanahan videos and when he mentioned baseball it was obvious he doesn’t follow it at all. I suspect someone fed him that video. There was a HUGE hue and cry to change the rules when Posey went down. And the rule may yet be changed.

So in one episode he said things that were patently untrue, and potentially subject to liable suit, and that he don’t even care if it’s accurate.

I don’t think he should be fired because he shouldn’t have said something, I think he should be fired because it’s painfully (for the CBC anyway) clear that he no longer has a clue what he is talking about, if he ever did…

Calling people hypocrytes, alcoholics, drug addicts…legally can be converted to slander.

Probably not the best thing to do to pick on people with drug / alcohol related problems. Hypocrytes was on the line and could be lived with…but throwing around addicts and alcoholics on CBC…probably not the best.

that’s it? K i dont like cherry as much as the next, but I dont get why the whole blow up, ive been just ignoring it. but if hes trying to say we need to get help for these people and these players lead down that path well then , he right, even though he might have said it like an [edit]..again.

He wasn’t saying that at all. He said that Stu Gimsom, Chris Nilan, and Jim Thomson were Hypocrites and turncoats for being against fighting. Problem is Grimsom and Nilan aren’t. Never have been. Nilan has also said that he doesn’t attribute his substance abuse problems to his former job. Cherry’s statement are complete fabrications and because of the size of his platform the lies starts to become seen as the truth. Nilan has carved a public persona as a pro fighting, rough and tumble guy. He sells sticks signs autographs etc based on the fact he was atough guy with the habs. You paint him with a brush that says “He’s a crusader against fighting” and that messes with his image. It also sucks to be called a puke for something that isn’t the case.
Cherry wasn’t trying to help anybody with substance abuse problems. It was an ill informed rant on his part. A complete fabrication. You can find the link to the coach’s corner I am sure. Watch it knowing that 2 of the guys mentioned don’t actually believe the things Cherry says they believe and it becomes comical to find that he hasn’t simply said, “Sorry I had my facts wrong”

When this whole thing exploded, I wondered if the CBC would have the guts to let Mr. Cherry go, as he has clearly outlasted his usefulness on HNIC. I also wondered what they could replace him with.

The best I could come up with is a group of retired players and coaches discussing current events in the NHL, kind of like an Anglophone version of l’Antichambre. I imagined Wayne Gretzky and Denis Savard and Eric Lindros sitting around being asked to opine on the hot topics, but then I remembered that, as great a guy as Wayne is, he’s dull as beige. Maybe Brett Hull would be a better choice.

About time the Bell Centre will be happening!! I am going to be watching tonights game with pizza and wing yumm.

Okay since its the first home game of the season , its going to be rocking and Carey Price short one win to make his 100th win of his career is special. Lets hope the team in front will help him out here, because he sure does his work in net.

3 goals allowed in 2 games… even the suppose to be Optimus James Reimer has allowed more goals then him…

And this is why I believed he was signed for 3 years. I do not think that they will look to rush his return and do not expect to have him back in the line up this year. He will take the year off to rehab, go skiing in France, cross country run, whatever it is he wants to do so he can clear his head and pace his return.

Sign him for 3 years, pay his salary off the cap, and have him 100% next year. Thats my conspiracy theory.

I’m not expecting much from Eller. Don’t get me wrong, I like the way the kid plays and I thought he had a solid rookie season, albeit not extraordinary. He does all the little things right, but I don’t think he’ll score more than 15 goals.

I have a feeling that the discussions on this site have embellished the expectations set on Eller. I expect him to be a solid 3rd/4th liner this year.

It doesn’t count against the cap. Also I mentioned below. “I believe Tony Marinaro mentioned that the Habs agreed to a 3 year deal not 2 because or something about insurance covering more of Markov salary if he has any injuries or something like that.” Every team has a budget even if its over the cap, so that might give PG a little more spend if needed.

A player expected to miss at least 10 games and 24 days due to injury can be listed as a long-term injury (LTI).
An LTI can be covered by replacement players, as long as the replacement salaries do not exceed the salary of the injured player.
If the replacement salaries would push a team over the salary cap, the team is allowed cap relief, but only for the portion of the salary that exceeds the cap.
When the injured player returns, the team must immediately comply with the normal terms of the salary cap.

You have to know something serious is up with Markov.
You don’t send him an a +3 hour flight to Florida to see his surgeon for nothing. Something happened somewhere and the hush hush tells the whole story. If everything was clear, we would have a date of return

IMO, to go with the rumours, that he had water in his knee from training to hard, the Dr told him to stay off the ice for a week and come back, so if all is well I wouldn’t be surprised to see skating again soon, and if not, the Dr would probably tell him take another week off.

We have great arthroscopy surgeons and rehab in Montreal. If everything was close to normal then no need for Florida. I bet he is down there to get scoped to see exactly what the problem is and that means more weeks or months off.

MacQuaid got his bell rung pretty good into the end boards last night and had to go to the quiet room. He didn’t return to play, apparantly in the Boston Quiet Room they have a tape on loop running of Chara reading Old Testament Genesis 5 Verses 1 thru 32, the begat chapter.

Does anyone know a website that provides Habs pictures of previous games played that can be used as a desktop picture of high quality… Last year, the web site of Journal De Montreal’s guys on strike was marvelous but it is no longer on… NHL.com is ok, but once put as a desktop it looses it’s quality…
Anyway, let me know, thanks

I heard he slept with Ron Corey’s wife and Pierre Gauthier had to take him for a walk in Old Montreal and then he smashed into a telephone pole! Also, he’s been hanging with Russian mobsters and partying too much on Crescent street. It’s all in this Belorussian sports mag I’ve been reading.

I sure hope there was a clause in the Markov contract about him being physically able to fulfill his obligations to the team. I am not so sure that resigning him without some club protection was very wise.
And what was the length of his contract? 2 or 3 yrs.?

That is exactly it….if we would have let him go we might be kicking ourselves for the next few years when he is still one of the top D men in the league. If he misses half of this season…oh well. We should still be in the playoff race and that is when we really need him

But the goaltending is still a question mark. Bryz has been a fine and capable goalie for a team that doesn’t exactly have a market spotlight shone on them. Can he handle the pressure of Philly? I mean, I realize that some people here are of the belief that if only Gainey had passed on Carey Price in 2005 we could have had Bryz for a song in 2007 when Burkie was giving him away, but will he be able to replicate the 42- and 36-win seasons he had there playing in an arguably tougher division?
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GO HABS GO! 2011-12 is our year!

I agree Ian that when we have a healthy squad we can compete for top spot int he East. When we have Moen on the first line though and most of our D core down this team will really have to pull together which they did in the Peg.

Really interested to see how tonight goes. Calgary is not playing well. I think it may be time to dismantle that team shortly and rebuild. They were so good in that cup run against Tbay when they should have actually won but came up short.

Atlantic division is very weak. Philly should finish 3rd IMO. Rangers D is very suspect and gaborik seems to have disappeared. Im not sure how the Pens will work out, Crosby done for a while and now Malkin is hurt again.

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Article in the Globe & Mail read that Bettman is now putting heat on CBC re Cherry’s comments about Shanahan and “changing of the game”. With CBC televising rights contract ending next year, the CBC execs taking the Cherry comments a little more seriously this time. Cherry won’t change but the game is and the two no longer mesh……even if Cherry is considered “entertainment” to HNIC. The end is near!

Interesting however the article only alludes to the possibility of Bettman putting pressure on the CBC. No direct proof or quotes. But it could be perceived as a shift in the CBC stance given the sequence of events and Bettman could have said something to them.

None of the loud mouth know-nothings around here, ever get fired either. Both MNF and Hank Jr. (which goes for the CBC and Cherry for that matter) will continue to do well with or without each other and we will continue to hear mindless whining about coaches and management.

markov is on vacation, enjoying the sun. doc said it would make him feel better. he had a steak for lunch. medium rare i believe, with mashed potatoes at Shula’s Steak House. went on record saying “i would have preferred a poutine but they don’t serve those here”.

Apparantly the swelling he experienced was due to a lack of Vitamin D. Apparantly it was a very cloudy summer back in Russia, you will notice neither AK or Brother Andrei had much of a tan after their summer at home.

So excited for the home opener! Dissapointed that Cammi won’t be there, but that just means that Cole should get some extra ice time and I really want to see what he can do.
I love our young defense. They will be ok this year and much better next year!

Go Habs Go!!

“Fans are great, but the quickest way to start losing is to listen to them.” – Sam Pollock

It’s a bit over the top, isn’t it, though? I mean REALLY. I hate the broad street bullies as much as pretty much anyone (except Boone, apparently), but the Nazis/Hitler thing is a bit much. I remember what Boone was driving at- the dumbass mob mentality of fans driving each other to hate is indeed not a pretty sight- but the Nazi comparison was facile and Godwin-ish.

Boone was calling Hank Williams out for saying Obama and Boehner (sp) golfing together is like Hitler golfing with Netinyahu (sp). So Hank Williams is a know nothing idiot for comparing Obama to Hitler in that analogy, while Boone is ok for comparing the Flyers to Hitler’s Third Reich? Mm nope, not going to fly. There’s no problem with my reading comprehension skills, it’s comparing a hockey team to Hitler and all that is associated with him that leaves some to be desired. Trying to defend the stupid statement is just lame, sorry.

Oh don’t get me wrong, when I’m commenting about stuff on the Internet I hold out as long as possible before bringing up Nazis in any discussion (unless, of course, I am actually talking about Nazis) so I grant that it was perhaps not in the best taste to liken the dislike of the Flyers to the dislike of the Nazis. I personally loathe the Bruins much more than the Flyers, and I would only compare that relative to how much I hate Saddam.

I think Bruce Dowbiggin of the Globe and Mail summed up MacLean perfectly. Dowbiggin, who worked briefly for CBC TV sports said MacLean has great talent, but he’s opted to take the easy route as Cherry’s sidekick. MacLean irritates the living crap out of me with his smug know-it-all attitude. One gets the impression that Ron believes he invented hockey.

In both cases, CBC provided the soap box for these guys to defame the players that provide income for Cherry and McLean, and in both cases, the guys they tried to destroy were given no opportunity to defend themselves on the same publicly-funded soapbox.

Correct. Williams is only guilty of making a bad analogy as is Boone, of course. By the way in some places, being likened to Netanyahu or any Jewish leader would be far greater insult than being compared to Hitler. Iran’s leaders would probably have someone’s head for saying such things. Of course, apparently, saying that you’d like to kill GW Bush or rape Sarah Palin is all good. I’m rolling my eyes.