R+L=J confirmation? Who/how?

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Will we finally get a confirmation of r+l=j? If it's going to happen, I believe it will happen in this episode. It is confirmed that the actor who played young Ned has scenes in the finale. Why show him again unless it is to finally see what is in the tower (I mean we all know who it is, come on).

Who ho will be the character to bring this to light for the audience? Will they also bring this information to light for the other characters of this world? There are many possibilities, howland reed, bran, Mel, even littlefinger.

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My money is on LF and Bran. One will get the reveal, the other will be confirmation. The might find Rhaegar's harp in the crypt in Lyanna's statue as an added bonus. But who knows with some of the directions the writers took. I started a thread called Heritage explaining my reasoning. And someone else in another thread pointed out how LF tried to turn Sansa at least away from Jon at one point. Thank you whoever. Lol

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I think it will all be revealed when Ghost surprises everyone that he can talk. So he tells them, and they say "What? A talking dog? You expect us to take a talking dog seriously??". Then they all burst into laughter and go on quaffing their ale.

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I've mentioned this before and never really got a good answer but shouldn't Jamie know about R+L? I mean he was a kings guard during the time when there was a war started over this whole R+L thing. There doesn't seem to be many kings guards, ~3 to 6 or 7 at a given time. It seems odd that one of them would not have known where 3 others were (including the one of the best fighter-Dayne) during a time of peril for the king/prince. Assuming R+L=J R and L would have had to have been together for awhile or at least had a romance that lasted at least ~ 9 months even if they were not together that whole time, so wouldn't have Jamie at least known that L wasn't actually kidnapped and being raped and such, that she was a willing participant and that she/they were spending time at the TOJ or a lovers hideaway.

Someone else said its because he was too new to the KG and not important enough but he was clearly important enough to be guarding the king while KL was being invaded. I'm not saying Jamie would know for sure about Jon being R&L's baby (or that I think he'd be the one to reveal it) but he's not stupid and must have known some of these things and you'd think could put things together (thus having at least a hunch re Jon).

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I've mentioned this before and never really got a good answer but shouldn't Jamie know about R+L? I mean he was a kings guard during the time when there was a war started over this whole R+L thing. There doesn't seem to be many kings guards, ~3 to 6 or 7 at a given time. It seems odd that one of them would not have known where 3 others were (including the one of the best fighter-Dayne) during a time of peril for the king/prince. Assuming R+L=J R and L would have had to have been together for awhile or at least had a romance that lasted at least ~ 9 months even if they were not together that whole time, so wouldn't have Jamie at least known that L wasn't actually kidnapped and being raped and such, that she was a willing participant and that she/they were spending time at the TOJ or a lovers hideaway.

Someone else said its because he was too new to the KG and not important enough but he was clearly important enough to be guarding the king while KL was being invaded. I'm not saying Jamie would know for sure about Jon being R&L's baby (or that I think he'd be the one to reveal it) but he's not stupid and must have known some of these things and you'd think could put things together (thus having at least a hunch re Jon).

Pretty sure it was that Aerys was paranoid about Tywin resigning and leaving, then not responding to his summons. Jaime needed to be near him at all times to be his trump card, which would have kept him (Jaime, and I suppose Aerys) out of the loop of all of Rhaegar's movements before and during the Rebellion.

And I don't think anyone knew where Rhaegar was, if I remember it right Gerold Hightower was sent out to find Rhaegar, and it's assumed he never left the Tower once Gerold found Rhaegar there, as he was there during Ned's battle (the third person was omitted from the TV show, but most of the rest of the events seem to mimic the books so this is probably the same reasoning).

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It will probably be a mixture between Melisandre seeing something in the flames, Bran using his Greensight ability, and Littlefinger confirming it face to face and possibly Howland Reed. It would be very problematic to end the season with this because I feel like there would have to be more development.

Once Jon's lineage is revealed (assuming R+L=J is true), how is it that he's going to convince everyone that he's half Targaryen, let alone himself? It seem's like an impossible task and I bet most people in Westeros would think they're crazy.

Edited June 22, 2016 by Darien Underhill

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It will probably be a mixture between Melisandre seeing something in the flames, Bran using his Greensight ability, and Littlefinger confirming it face to face and possibly Howland Reed. It would be very problematic to end the season with this because I feel like there would have to be more development.

Once Jon's lineage is revealed (assuming R+L=J is true), how is it that he's going to convince everyone that he's half Targaryen, let alone himself? It seem's like an impossible task and I bet most people in Westeros would think they're crazy.

By riding one of the dragons.

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I heard what happens is that lyanna angry over rhaegar attacks Ned who by reaction cuts her down Ned sobbing what have I done. Wylla comes with her baby and lyanna makes Ned promise to raise him as a stark and protect him from roberts fury and the lannisters.

"To whoever dug this grave and is reading. By now I Ned Stark will be dead. I hope Jon is not dead. Just tell him he was not my son, but Lyannas and Rhaegars. I had to lie to my wife and children. I am so sorry. Please treat him well.... Here is an impression of my ass to validate this letter. Love Eddard, your dear Ned *ass imprint*"

Stark song playing in background and as usual Jons shocked open mouthed look.