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David Pollak and Curtis Pashelka on the San Jose SharksTue, 31 Mar 2015 17:31:00 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1By: Boyle Sounds Off Again - Blades of Teal - A San Jose Sharks Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and Morehttp://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/2012/10/15/one-month-into-the-lockout-dan-boyle-sees-the-window-closing-for-him-and-his-teammates-plus-much-more/comment-page-1/#comment-229371
Boyle Sounds Off Again - Blades of Teal - A San Jose Sharks Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and MoreSat, 14 Sep 2013 20:52:16 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/?p=8653#comment-229371[...] 8 teams causing a lockout (BOT staff speculation as to who those teams were is posted here). His new comments aren’t as scathing, but sound like a man who just wants another shot at the Cup before the team’s window closes. [...]
]]>By: Jay Smeadhttp://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/2012/10/15/one-month-into-the-lockout-dan-boyle-sees-the-window-closing-for-him-and-his-teammates-plus-much-more/comment-page-1/#comment-200519
Jay SmeadSun, 28 Oct 2012 07:00:15 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/?p=8653#comment-200519Hope to become there…
]]>By: LORI LARMANhttp://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/2012/10/15/one-month-into-the-lockout-dan-boyle-sees-the-window-closing-for-him-and-his-teammates-plus-much-more/comment-page-1/#comment-199691
LORI LARMANTue, 16 Oct 2012 20:22:09 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/?p=8653#comment-199691If you let him break the union you will never get the trust of your young players. There will be less protection of the contract. The pay level will be taken away.

How would each level play structure be done. The terms would the GM be able to do on the offer sheet. What would be the length contracts be for each player.

What can happen if the player would do this one thing. Force the league reps and the player reps to sit across the table and hash out the problems and the most important the revenue sharing and the contract length for the entry level contract, time, and money of that contract.

Then the player in the two to five year area. Here is where some of the problems are. You have young experienced player with agent who make the offer seem and they should ask for more the skills show. Then they hold out for more. Control what the agents can do as far as the offer sheet.

Then there are the player with 6 to 10 years in the league. With the stats and experience. You make the agents look at the years that the player might want to play and the money he thinks will be the best for him.

The next and most important step. Is to see where each team stands as far as salary cap hits. Players they might want in exchange for each player. Is the a no trade clause involved in each contract. Will the player be willing to wave it for the trade to be completed.

To make sure each agent know at level each player is at . Weather it is an entry level, short term, long term with a no trade clause. To also make sure they understand contract law within each state where the player are at.

Those are the things both sides need to work through. To keep the standards clear and legal. So one gets hurt by the greed and the owner wanting more then there team can afford.

The owners are the ranchers. The players are the cattle. And we, the fans, are the carnivores who buy beef.

It’s just that Arizona is apparently mostly vegetarian, and they need to herd those cattle up north where they have more appreciation for red meat.

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Here’s hoping the 50/50 offer doesn’t have too many hidden loopholes and gets voted through, and we have a full season of NHL this year. I tend to side with the players more than the owners, but I really just want to see the boys in teal PLAY, dammit.

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]]>By: sj10http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/2012/10/15/one-month-into-the-lockout-dan-boyle-sees-the-window-closing-for-him-and-his-teammates-plus-much-more/comment-page-1/#comment-199680
sj10Tue, 16 Oct 2012 19:10:33 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/?p=8653#comment-199680Now John Shannon is correcting himself to say that the entry level contracts would continue to be 3 years and the free agency would be 28 yo or 8 years, the same as it is now.

So, there are no poison pills in the offer, and if the players turn this down, they can just rot in hell, or europe as the case may be.

]]>By: sj10http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/2012/10/15/one-month-into-the-lockout-dan-boyle-sees-the-window-closing-for-him-and-his-teammates-plus-much-more/comment-page-1/#comment-199679
sj10Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:29:40 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/?p=8653#comment-199679It is more about loss of revenue. They will lose big bucks if there is not 82 games, and if the Winter classic gets canceled, the league is toast revenue-wise.
]]>By: SjSharksfan95118http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/2012/10/15/one-month-into-the-lockout-dan-boyle-sees-the-window-closing-for-him-and-his-teammates-plus-much-more/comment-page-1/#comment-199678
SjSharksfan95118Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:20:54 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/?p=8653#comment-199678Funny how the Owners came out with a new proposal after it was leaked that they brought in a consulting firm to try to spin the lockout in their favor. Just coincidence??
]]>By: Hockey onlyhttp://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/2012/10/15/one-month-into-the-lockout-dan-boyle-sees-the-window-closing-for-him-and-his-teammates-plus-much-more/comment-page-1/#comment-199677
Hockey onlyTue, 16 Oct 2012 18:20:39 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/sharks/?p=8653#comment-199677via TSN,

The NHL put a new offer on the bargaining table for the NHL Players’ Association on Tuesday morning, which includes a 50/50 split of hockey-related revenue across the board and contingent on an 82-game season beginning Nov. 2.

Bettman added that the offer calls for no salary rollback and the revised schedule – if implemented – would see one week of training camp and every team playing an extra regular season game every five weeks.

NHLPA executive director Donald Fehr said the offer – which is at least six years in length – is an “excellent start” and he would go over it with his membership in a 5pm et conference call.

According to John Shannon at Sportsnet, the following details are part of the owners latest proposal:

Free Agency would be at 28 years old
Entry level contracts would be four years
Revenue Sharing would be $200 million
Contracts would be capped at 5 years
Arbitration would still exist
Michael Grange tweets: “A Nov.2 start w/ week training mean camp opens Oct. 25th. #NHL has indicated that games post Oct. 24th to be cancelled this week so deal needs to get done in the next 48hrs, I’m guessing.”