I can imagine whats in our EB2 (Feb 04-05) minds. "Lets wait and see what happens next month, or lets see Oct bulletin". I cant change your minds.

But EB2 guys from much later date: If you looked at the pace it was moving in the last 6 months, you MAY get your GCs after 3-4 years.. which is unacceptable waiting too. So join hands with EB3 and lets move together. No point in waiting. DOnt you think all EB3s will convert into EB2 if there is no light at the end .. . So it will not serve anything if you keep quite...

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delhiboy

12-17 11:34 PM

Just need a place to vent and share my frustration with this system. I came to US 12 years ago for undergrad. Got a good job with a fortune 500 company, been with the same company for 8 years. Did my Masters and MBA part time.

Company filed paper work for GC under EB3 in 2002, but the system was too slow and I decided to take a new role. Had to re-file another appication since i took a new role, but this time in EB2 in '04. 4 years have passed and both applications have only cleared labor. Not sure when this wait will end. I do hope that this wait and patience is worth it for all of us.

I have a slightly off track question. Can the creator of this thread, and other guys who also said they got laid off too, name their companies. I am just curious to know which companies are going through downsizing.

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tampacoolie

07-13 10:51 PM

I have a gut feeling that he does not have right to revise visa bulletin.

svr_76, Your arguments are baseless. No company will ever hire an H1B to replace an equally qualified Citizen/Green card holder. Company has to spend a lot on H1B employees on lawyer fees and other complications.

Anti-immigrant lawmakers are using the excuse of economy to push through their legislations.

called uscis to ask when july 2 filers are likely to get receipt notice.She said because of the load of apps expected it might take about 4 to 6 wks.I hope july 2 filers don t have to pay huge penalty for filing on the very ifirst eligible day:( (something to worry about till this journey ends i guess):(

this 4 to 6 weeks is from 2nd July or 17 July?

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Slumdog

01-16 03:33 PM

For most of you this country has given everything you ever dreamt of & yes it is only possible in USA in short span of time but I want every member here to ask yourself one question. i.e Do you have peace of mind? I want to share with you half a day of my life as an immigrant here. I guess for some my story is not a big deal & for others they feel they are in my shoes. It�s quite lengthy for half a day story, so please read on if you have patience & time.

January xx/xx/2009

It�s 5:10 Am and I had to forcefully get out of my bed after 3 snoozes ( the fact is 4th snooze my wife will kick me out of bed anyways) . While walking out of the bed I was jealous of my wife that she need not get up early & go to work as we recently had a baby & she had to leave the job as she was under contract on EAD & not full time. As soon as I came out of shower I was feeling very fresh , energetic & was already planning my day schedule at work while I was getting ready.

6:00 AM: I am all dressed up for work & while I am already late for my train & taking quick bites of breakfast , I ran upstairs to my bed room to give a goodbye kiss to my wife & daughter. While kissing my daughter I just wanted to stare at her for some more time but had to leave as I was late. & ran back to garage & started my car & zoooommmmmm. I know the back routes to station & I know police wont catch me even if I am speeding ( I was going 65mph in 30 mph zone ). While I was already half way to station I realized & said to myself NOT AGAIN ( I did not turn off lights in the house & this really pisses of my wife ) I forgot to Switch off in the bath room, upstairs corridor, stiars, main hall, kitchen,. I left lights on literally everywhere including garage except the 3 bed rooms.

6:20AM : Reached the station, parked the car & while I knew there is only 2 min left before I miss the train , I ran to newspaper walla bought the newspaper & literally ran on escalator & just got in the train & the door closed behind me. I guess this happens atleast 2-3 times a week & hey I think I got used to it. Once I am in the train I had relax for 5 min to to take breath from running on escalators & then I read the headlines & said nyah same old stuff which was showed at 9PM news last night & didn�t bother to read any more , I opened up business edition & completed & it was frustrating to see that DOW tumbled gain, forclosure on rise, no hopes for good market in 2009 blah blah blah blah blah & then I closed my eyes & started day dreaming about my daughter, her cute smile & thinking about my upcoming trip to india as it will be the first time I am visiting after my baby was born. Just when I though I was falling into sweet dreams I heard this announcement from train operator � Abhey salla utto , tumahara station aagya, jaakey kuch kaam kar� I will translate this in English for non indians ( good morning ladies & gentlemen you have reached station �xyz� & Thank you for riding with us & we wish to see you again�)

6:56 Am: As soon as I am out of station the first place I go is starbucks, & get a non fat grande mocha with 2% extra hot no foam with little bit of honey & cinnamon. ( KIDDING , I just take plain regular coffee with room ). The first sip is amazing it feels like first cigg after a bottle of beer & started walking to my office which is very close to station.

7:00Am: I am in office. Usually it is just me & couple of other guys on the floor at that time. The office was silent & it was open floor plan with flat cubicles & you see the entire floor even if you sit at your desk. Logged into PC & checked my emails & getting prepared for the days work.

7:10Am: I saw one of the senior manager in office & it is very unusal for him to come so early into the office. While I wished him good morning he didn�t seemed to respond the way he usually does. He then walked up to one of the office colleague in different department next to me & asked him if he could come to his office.

7:15Am: The guy walks out of the office along with manager with packet in his hand & started packing his stuff right away. I could see that his computer is still logged in & I guess he was not even allowed to log off. The manager stands behind him, occasionally helps him in his packing & walks him out of the door, into the elevator & outside the building. That�s it, my heart started beating heavily, I said to my self �today is the day� . Yes by now you all know what I was talking about !!! LAYOFFS�

The talks have been going for several days & no one except top senior executives knew who & how many people will be laid off. Everyone I talk to in the company is worried, it did not matter if he was senior, working in company since 10 years, experienced , the best technical guy, the most lovable guy, the CEO�s blue eyed boy, every one & I mean almost everyone is worried about their job. I did not know how I was going to handle even though I was prepared before for the worst. But when the time actually came , it�s different, first time I felt I was weak because of the things below which are going in mind. � I bought a house just few months back, although great deal at the time I bought I had to invest 15% down payment & at that time never ever knew that this day would come. I always thought I could resell it but when I contacted my mortgage broker few days back , he told me that market was so slow that I wont be even getting the 15% down payment if I plan to sell now. With most of my hard earned savings in the house I am only left with couple of grand for reserves. � The biggest worry I had was 10 days after my daughter was born she was hospitalized for almost a month for complex partial seizures treatment .She has since been in medication & was doing good & slowly outgrowing seizures with occasional episodes. We can�t stop the treatment & thinking of expensive Cobra package & not knowing how many months we will be jobless made me sick. � How do I invoke AC21 & how many much should I be paying Lawyers? � My upcoming trip to india, we already spend close to 5k for the tickets & cancelling the tickets is impossible due to family reasons. What if I loose a job now & go on trip to india? Can I enter back on Advance parole? What if the port of entry finds out that I lost a job, will be I allowed in when I come back? Will my company cancel current approved I140? & will that lead to I485 cancellations which has been happening recently ?? � What will happen to my car loans & upcoming car registration, insurance.

Not that I don�t have any money in reserves but these are very few things I mentioned above that bothered me & list can go on & on. Is it easy pack all the bags & leave everything behind? Yes if you want to & NO if you want to fight, it�s as simple as that & I did not plan to leave. So let�s go back to what happened for the rest of the day & believe me all the above points I mentioned was going in my mind in less than a minute, so now the time is �

7:16Am: I saw one other manager in the same process in different dept doing the exact same process. Remember, above somewhere I said that it is a open floor plan & everyone can see everything what is happening. Though I am not shaken from outside, inside I feel every inch of it.

If you are trying to open philosophical topic I suggest we do it in a separate thread, because that debate will be a very long one.

BTW do you know the deal with the bees? Bees are just insects, right? But did you know that you are living here on this earth because of them? If the country is filled with geniuses then what is the worth of genius? Therefore dont compare humans in this way

For the record, illegals do end up with green cards. One should have faith, like they do

I am an EB2 filer, but I totally support EB3 cause few of my close ones are in that boat .. Anyways, this post is for GK_2000 .. If you have it in you to start an idea, light a spark etc etc .. then please learn to follow it through ..

Agreed that you don't agree with redgreen, might even be angry st such a reply, but humility is the right approach here .. Your response could have been better .."in that case could you suggest a better idea etc.." .. The response you have given does not help your attempts as people may perceive it to be an attitude problem or just "thread by an EB3 ranter".. Every great person including Mahatma Gandhi was ridiculed/scoffed when trying to start something new, but they knew hostility does not beget hostility .. Learn to hear others as you may might some new thread of information or avenues of thoughts, even in their vehemence..

Just my 2 cents and in case you find this offensive too, then I apologize in advance ..

Regards, Gopal Krishan

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vghc

07-03 11:23 AM

The point is to not 'distribute pain', it is to reduce the pain of a group.

Again, even though the benefits may go to one 'group', let me tell you that it is not a formal group and just as all ROW applicants are not one group, non-ROW applicants too are individuals and IT DOESN'T MATTER TO ONE INDIVIDUAL HOW MUCH OTHERS GOT BENEFITED.

So your point of saying that one group is benefited is irrelevant, because GCs aren't given to groups and only to individual applicants.

Your other point is absolutely right! Family should not be counted, and I'm in 100% agreement with that!

I am sure if the EB GC's goes to the principle applicant we all won't be in this bad of a shape. Its because of the addition of wife or kids, the number pool dries up faster. So if one wants to petition of elimination of country quote under the notion that EB community is needed because of our skills, take out the family members, then it makes sense, if not, don't. My 2 cents.

I'm here at California with L-2 visa. I can stay legally in US but i can not get a SSN number, i can work too.But For a driver license they ask for SSN. Do i still get the Driver License or no?

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Beemar

01-18 02:45 AM

I have a slightly off track question. Can the creator of this thread, and other guys who also said they got laid off too, name their companies. I am just curious to know which companies are going through downsizing.

Thank you,Perm2GC, cshen, you folks are simply EXCELLENT. Thank you srikond, ofcourse your idea is interesting, you can probably assess it in detail further and let IV forum know. Thanks to sbeyyala for taking the initiative to talk to association. Thanks srikondoji ,we_can,rajesh_kamisetti.

Thank you for implementing the IV action item to increase membership towards 10,000.

I think you folks here have set a great example by following the idea, just like some of our friends on the more contributing threads. We have good leadership and combined it with a good followers/contributors like you , may be we will be getting what we want :-)

I have noticed on murthy.com, the postings did not mention immigrationvoice.com, we need to post the url of immigration voice in the same postings.

So far we have posted on the following web sites .. www.mitbbs.com, www.desigate.com, www.viaindia.com, www.chicagosamachar.com www.sulekha.com dallas.eknazar.com www.indiagrid.com murthyforum.atinfopop.com en.enwikipedia.org

A good beginning, but this is still less than the number of states in US :-) We need to do more.

Dear IV members, who have not posted yet, please post now. Your 15 min will make a BIG difference.

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amitjoey

03-23 10:27 AM

There are people from northern california going to DC. Please join IV's NOR CAL group and you will get in touch with all of them

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stucklabor

07-24 12:42 PM

It all depend how we interpret the law.

Here is the arguement by stuck labor

"INA: ACT 245 - ADJUSTMENT OF STATUS OF NONIMMIGRANT TO THAT OF PERSON ADMITTED FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE

(a) The status of an alien who was inspected and admitted or paroled into the United States 1/ or the status of any other alien having an approved petition for classification under subparagraph (A)(iii), (A)(iv), (B)(ii), or (B)(iii) of section 204(a)(1) or may be adjusted by the Attorney General, in his discretion and under such regulations as he may prescribe, to that of an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence if

(3) an immigrant visa is immediately available to him at the time his application is filed."

BUT

The above is applicable for adjustment of status only not for filing of 485. Here the case in point is to argue for filing 485, not for adjusting of status even VISA numbers are not available. It is not mentioned anywhere in the act that the 485 petition cannot be filed. It is worth to give a try with USCIS. The present law does not mention anything about filing and we can take advantage of that.

The law is the law, there is no room for interpretation. We cannot file for Adjustment of Status using form I-485 without visa number availability. Remember that I-485 is the form name that you use to apply for Adjustment of Status. When you file I-485, you are filing for Adjustment of Status.

Please think through your ideas before posting them.

Just as a FYI and anticipating arguments that may arise, EAD is available by law to Adjustment of Status applicants and others - such as students on OPT etc - and the law specifically says who may get EAD.

I will not respond to any further arguments on this thread that are on the lines of "Let us get USCIS to reinterpret the law, let us file I-485 and not call it an Adjustment of Status application, let us lobby USCIS to get EADs without filing for Adjustment of Status etc".

In response to the posts by rpatel, valabor etc - there is ZERO potential in pursuing this directly with USCIS. IV will not and should not waste any time in this effort.

shantanup

02-04 10:39 AM

Some questions to those who are supporting country cap.

Why not put a country cap on foreign students’ visas since many of them get into the green card line eventually? Why not put a country cap on H1B visas since many of them get into the green card line eventually? Why not put a country cap on labor certifications? Why not put a country cap on I-140s? Why not impose a country cap at the port of entry? Why not put a country cap on visitors’ visas? Why not put a country cap on business visas? Why not put a country cap on US trade with other countries? Why not put a country cap on amount of US $ reserves that each country can have? Why not put a country cap on children that foreigners in the US can bear? Why not put a country cap on the foreigners’ earnings in the US? . . . And the list can go on.

Putting country cap on greens cards serves a hidden racist agenda of not letting the people of one particular ethnic group grow in number and become strong.

BharatPremi

03-17 02:03 PM

Are you saying EB3-India visa date will be set as Jan 2004 by USCIS some time soon? I thought they kept saying that EB3-India dates would move very slowly only. So from the current Oct 2001 to Jan 2004 is a very long and narrow road.

Applicants with PD before January First 2004 will mostly be current by December 2008 end. That is what I belive, USCIS will head towards. If it will not happen than do not kill me.:) Ultimately we all are in USCIS's lap..