drat, you are right - i remembered her in school, forgot she hadn't been devilfied yet.

.....which suggests that crim is right, and no one was always a devil-girl. but blue's story (compared to pebbles) still suggests that there can be different levels of - what, involvement? willingness? self-selection? in becoming a devil-girl.

the devil, on the other hand, seems always to have been the devil, and li'l e was born with horns. so are devil-boys always devil-boys, or are some of them also bomfees?

Considering that a number of different supernatural beings seem to coexist in the Sinfestverse, my hypothesis is that some devilfolk are "original" like Big D as our most common myth casts them (supernaturals gone bad); others are so from birth (either full or part); some are would-be supernaturals who turn to the Dark Side in failure like Blue; some may be mundanes who had their soul-sale note get called, or had the Dark Side lurking trying to take over a-la-kcilS and either fell for it or were pushed over into it like the red-light district girl, and a few may have just got direct-bomfed at random like "Pebbles". Though the latter does not seem to give you a very useful devilperson right off the bat.

Absinthe does come off as happy, but is also full of self-doubt and kinda knows she's in a crappy situation (see: http://sinfest.net/archive_page.php?comicID=4646. Also, there's another, more heart-wrenching strip where she's pouring her heart out to Nique, but I dun feel like looking for it right now.). It's less being outright happy and more like having a positive outlook.

I think Abby qualifies as happy. Being happy doesn't preclude having doubts or insecurities, it just means that you're generally happy (happy more often than not, etc), and from what we see of her she is. If you had to be constantly happy then no one in the real world would be happy, just potentially suffering long bouts of happiness._________________"Worse comes to worst, my people come first, but my tribe lives on every country on earth. Iíll do anything to protect them from hurt, the human race is what I serve." - Baba Brinkman

I think Abby qualifies as happy. Being happy doesn't preclude having doubts or insecurities, it just means that you're generally happy (happy more often than not, etc), and from what we see of her she is. If you had to be constantly happy then no one in the real world would be happy, just potentially suffering long bouts of happiness.

Sooo if people were happy all the time they would kind of be like the kids on Barney? Sounds like some broken hedonic treadmills

I think Abby qualifies as happy. Being happy doesn't preclude having doubts or insecurities, it just means that you're generally happy (happy more often than not, etc), and from what we see of her she is. If you had to be constantly happy then no one in the real world would be happy, just potentially suffering long bouts of happiness.

Sooo if people were happy all the time they would kind of be like the kids on Barney? Sounds like some broken hedonic treadmills

On an unrelated note, in the crazy world of my brain, you and Mike are brothers from another mother.

I have no problem being mentally linked to guys with nice beards who say smart things.

Also Futurama is way more likely than transhumanism, IMNSHO.

Also also, I'm glad that you brought up the hedonic treadmill because that's where I was going (just without the fancy words).

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I think she's just trying to put on a brave face, honestly.

I think she has a positive emotional set point and occasionally deviates when things go bad or, like in the strip where she talks about being replaced, when she's faced with a grim reality foisted on her by external forces. The difference isn't whether things can make her sad, it's whether her steady state, her natural emotional position to which she returns unconsciously, is positive or negative. I don't see anything suggesting that when left to her own devices she's anything but happy (note that all of the sad strips are her responding to external things)._________________"Worse comes to worst, my people come first, but my tribe lives on every country on earth. Iíll do anything to protect them from hurt, the human race is what I serve." - Baba Brinkman