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"My question, why have we heard of those guys? Sure they have a ton of campaign $$, but the bottom line is we've heard their names because they're proven leaders on a large scale!"

Or perhaps it could be the support of the same media machine that would have a great deal to lose if someone like RP were to be elected?

The Internet is a far more honest medium than any other press outlet. Maybe that's why the "big" media squashes polls that don't represent the way they would like things to be.

Even "educated" voters (so called), really only get the news from one or two sources. No matter which network you claim, the news all comes from the same place, the AP.

The Associated Press and maybe Reuters (which aren't really different) are the reporters of most news. Almost every major newspaper and network derives it's stories from there. They choose what they will report and what they won't, but it's all coming from the same place.

They shape the view that the public has on the world. Call yourself informed because you read the New York Times, but you are only getting stories that have fashioned for the way they want you to see the world.

The Internet on the other hand is by and large uncontrolled by money or power (pending Googles takeover of the new 700 band).

For the first time in a long time, there is no way for those in control of the infomation to control what the populace is exposed to. Free flow of views and ideas, much of it garbage, but some is worthwhile. More importantly, it's untampered with. That is why NBC will pull a poll.

Who are they to say, and why do so many accept that it must be some aberration, some group of wackos pulling some well organized scheme to appear more significant than they are?

I like some others here have never seen so many people in my community (NV) so energized about a candidate so early in the election cycle. I will say this, the online poll results more closely reflect what I see with my own eyes than does the coverage I see from any organized news source.

I believe Rand's point is pertinant, and is coming. But even if RP supporters could or did truly understand online marketing, and seo specifcally, I wouldn't look for the "establishment" to ever acknowledge or validate it.

SEO's have the ability to control information online much like the New York Times or NBC. The best of us can get our information up there right next to theirs, but without the multimillion dollar budgets and high rise buildings. Do you think they like that idea?

I don't think we should all just assume because NBC makes a statement about something, that they really have our best interests at heart. They have interests as well.