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America was very good at being policical isolationists without sacraficing our social or economic positions in the world pre WWII. Think we can do that again.

Furthermore, we can participate on the world stage through the UN. We do not need to be their spear and shield anymore though.

Unfortunatley the dependency on Fossil Fuel and the sheer resistance to any change. Means on foreign policy this current path is the only one that will be pursued. The only thing on offer from the region is oil, this is the only reason the US is involved.

A better solution would be to develop the obvious alternatives: Sea Power, Solar Power, Hydroelectrics, electric cars etc. A little messing with your car I could get it running off of homebrew ethanol.

Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Originally Posted by Andalublue

Except of course, SgtRock's post was completely untrue. The ambassador died of smoke inhalation inside the consulate. No torture, no dragging through the streets. You'd think the death of an ambassador would be enough, but some folks can't resist playing the drama queen for nefarious purposes.

Did you also count Al Jazerra and others also pointing out how his Motorcade came under Rocket Fire? Would it matter if he was dead or alive, if rockets and assault weapons were used and fired upon the motorcade? Meaning did it stop them from lighting the Convoy up?

Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Originally Posted by lizzie

I agree, but that is a common perception, and I can understand why we have gained that reputation.

It's a common misconception, Lizzie, propagated by fools and liars who are mostly European.. Klown on this thread is only one of the many examples.

I'm in the tourism business and no one is more gracious than the Americans. Among my visitors the Canadians, French, Italians, Chileans, and Argentinians also tend to be warm and wonderful people. Americans should certainly be very proud of themselves and their contributions to the world.

Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Originally Posted by Andalublue

They are legion. You think that Janet Jackson exposing a glimpse of her titty would cause a national outcry and scandal anywhere in western Europe? And here, on this very site, posting a picture of nudity of any kind is a bannable offence. That is censorship.

So in the US they ban the public display of a woman's breast during during prime time and in Europe they ban opinions.

Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

WELL, well, well.....FINALLY MORSI Has Spoken For Egypt!

Egyptian protesters clashed Thursday with police near the U.S. Embassy in Cairo for the third day in a row. Police used tear gas to disperse the protesters and the two sides pelted each other with rocks. But unlike Tuesday, the police kept the protesters away from the embassy's compound.

The Interior Ministry, which is in charge of police, said 16 protesters and 13 policemen were wounded in the clashes, which broke out overnight and were ongoing. Twelve protesters have been arrested, it said.

Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi, speaking while on a visit to Brussels, vowed on Thursday not to allow attacks on foreign embassies in Cairo, saying the Egyptian people reject such "unlawful acts.".....snip~

Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Originally Posted by Grant

It's a common misconception, Lizzie, propagated by fools and liars who are mostly European.. Klown on this thread is only one of the many examples.

I'm in the tourism business and no one is more gracious than the Americans. Among my visitors the Canadians, French, Italians, Chileans, and Argentinians also tend to be warm and wonderful people. Americans should certainly be very proud of themselves and their contributions to the world.

I understand that, but it still doesn't change our image around the world as greedy, fat, decadent Americans.

"God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."-C G Jung

Good on the Libyan government for not trying to either quietly ignore or appease these thugs. Looking at you, Egypt.

I'm happy to see the Libyan response to this tragedy as the people don't seem to be being duped by the terrorist there. The terrorists try to say it was for that anti Muslim movie being made but that is a load a **** because this was clearly a pre-planned attack with heavy munitions and that story about the movie didn't break until that day or the day before.

Re: Libya: Assault on U.S. consulate in Benghazi leaves 4 dead, including U.S. Ambass

Originally Posted by joko104

I suspect the overwhelming majority of people around the world wish they could be greedy, fat, decadent Americans too.

I'm sure you right about that, but it doesn't change the fact that they hate us for it. It's pretty typical to hate what you want, but can't have.

"God is the name by which I designate all things which cross my path violently and recklessly, all things which alter my plans and intentions, and change the course of my life, for better or for worse."-C G Jung