It shouldn't be too much longer Frank. With so few local dealers these days, many have to trust what they read here on the forums and see in the advertising. Hard to tell if a new detector is going to pass the initial list of qualifiers. For some, a new detector never makes it to the front seat of the truck.

I suspect that the ORX will do better than most. But, there will still be a few that for whatever reason, just don't fall into synch. I'm taking a closer look at the Deus myself.

The orx is programmed differently, in testing ive seen it will do better in iron than the deus, being that its 50% a gold machine and is much better tuned for the worst of the worst of soils which is where gold typically is. It is a deep machine ive seen videos and read a lot of posts showing the machine hitting targets at 15 inches.

Its all down to the operator, and the machine, i think the orx and deus have a advantage due to how many different frequencies you have access to and the fact that its so lightweight. You can swing it for a entire day. I prefer being able to switch between frequencies on demand but keeping it 1 frequency. Because ive noticed that the depth suffers on any multi frequency machine because the frequencies create noise and degrade all the other frequencies and as such any machine transmitting more than 1 frequency at a time wont get as deep as a single frequency machine. Simple as that.

Since receiving the orx I have found bucket lister's regularly in areas that have been pounded for multiple years, with multiple top-end detectors, by several excellent detectorists.

Anyone trashing this machine has not used it or is not using it correctly. It is not getting as much attention over here as it is overseas. They are absolutely killing it over there with the small hammered coins that are buried deep.

I just recently found and 1839 seated half dime at 8 inches in a field where the grass was easily an inch and a half to 2-inches high. It had an excellent audio signal and did occasionally show of a vid number. It is ridiculously fast recovery, excellent in iron, and very deep.

The only people that may find this machine subpar are the people that like a ridiculous amount of tweaking.

I totally agree. If the ORX and Deus can find those small hammered silver, they can sniff out those half dimes with little effort. I am pulling tiny pieces of copper from astonishing depths with my ORX in places I have hunted for years.

I'll try to grab it up, quickly, just to have a 2nd ORX on-hand, especially if it has the round 9" HF DD coil. I wouldn't use it that often as I much prefer the 5X9½ HF DD to work in-and-around the very abundant ferrous debris sites I favor, that are also a challenge due to the amount of building rubble and to deal with and sagebrush and other congested vegetation I deal with. The elliptical coil is working quite well. All I'd really like is a smaller coil in the round-shaped 5" to 6" size, so I'll keep wishing and hoping. But the round 9" HF coil would work OK for me for periodic Beach Hunting, and more often places with wide-open areas that have sparse targets, such as urban sports fields, or the out-of-the-way open plowed fields and pasture land.

QuoteCousinEddieSince receiving the orx I have found bucket lister's regularly in areas that have been pounded for multiple years, with multiple top-end detectors, by several excellent detectorists.

Anyone trashing this machine has not used it or is not using it correctly. It is not getting as much attention over here as it is overseas. They are absolutely killing it over there with the small hammered coins that are buried deep.

Years ago I had use of a Gold Maxx (original) over here for a coupe of months. The rod set needed more attention, but the overall design and performance, especially the Iron Audio Volume feature, really impressed me when I took it to some favorite Ghost Towns in Eastern Oregon, Southern Idaho, Utah and Northern Nevada. Too bad they couldn't have been imported and sold here.

When the Deus was first introduced it caught my interest due to light-weight design and compactness, but lost it due to the higher dollar cost, and especially due to the excess number of adjustment features. I felt many of them were confusing and not all that necessary. I prefer to have fun and enjoy this great sport, and I feel that's especially possible by having a detector to use that is 'simple' to set-up and operate. I didn't, and still don't, feel the 'need' for excess adjustable features. Some folks like to be 'tinkerers', I guess, but I don't see the benefit in it. The ORX is a well thought out model with just about all the features I would have wished for, to keep it a very useful and functional device. Deus-like results in a more appealing (to me) package that brings solid performance.

I've been quite impressed with the wonderful audio qualities conveyed by the ORX, and you're quite correct about the potential depth-of-detection and other audio information conveyed by the XP 'team.'

QuoteCousinEddieI just recently found and 1839 seated half dime at 8 inches in a field where the grass was easily an inch and a half to 2-inches high. It had an excellent audio signal and did occasionally show of a vid number. It is ridiculously fast recovery, excellent in iron, and very deep.

I have found some tiny-sized non-ferrous targets at surprising depths with this ORX set-up, and it's also doing a wonderful job taking on all types of iron/ferrous debris. I also get a very good numeric VDI (Visual Discrimination Indication) on most targets with a clean audio from the mid-depth to deeper range, and I mean very small targets, usually better than the competitive models friends are using when we compare signals.

QuoteCousinEddieThe only people that may find this machine subpar are the people that like a ridiculous amount of tweaking.

They can have their multi-tweakable models. I'm totally fine with the ORX design and ability to perform, yet keep it 'Simple'. I like 'Simple', and the ORX is, but I also like 'Functional' and 'Performance' driven. The ORX definitely fulfills those desires, too.