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Topic Review (Newest First)

04-21-2010 12:52 PM

lancelot9898

Quote:

Originally Posted by TQA

An 8 hp is the minimum that will plane two people. Get the Tohatsu 2st or the Yam. Both are bulletproof.
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I have a 10 year old 5 hp Nissan that will plane the 20 plus year old ten foot Archilles wood floor with two people. (130 lbs plus me at 200)

That wood floor is almost imposible to assemble on deck so I'm looking at the porta bote, but still like inflatables. The AL roll up floor by Archilles is a consideration and the Walker Bay's inflatable floors might also be a consideration, but they have not been responsive to email even though they do offer a ten year warrenty while Archilles has reduced theirs to 5.

04-21-2010 12:45 PM

dabnis

T37 Chef,

Tell us what you really think about Honda motors, don't hold back

Dabnis

04-21-2010 11:42 AM

T37Chef

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwaltersmi

I own a Honda 2hp and noise is not an issue. If you didn't know it was air cooled, you wouldn't know it was air cooled! It sounds nothing like the Gamefisher/Briggs & Stratton weed eater-type air cooled outboards. The current model does indeed come with a centrifugal clutch. Older models were offered with the centrifugal clutch as an option.

I have a Honda 2 hp...at idle its acceptable, but at WOT it could wake the dead...IMO...and I've been to two Metallica concerts!?

I will never purchase another Honda motor...this 2 hp is so sensitive to fuel its ridiculous! I have a Honda motor on my pressure washer, POS too...and the Honda mower...another POS.

04-21-2010 10:39 AM

dabnis

Kwalters,

Sometime back you posted about having to use the choke to keep it running. It would be interesting to learn what you found the problem to be?

Thanks, Dabnis

04-21-2010 09:11 AM

kwaltersmi

Quote:

Originally Posted by sailingdog

The 2 HP honda doesn't have a clutch and is really noisy, being air cooled.

I own a Honda 2hp and noise is not an issue. If you didn't know it was air cooled, you wouldn't know it was air cooled! It sounds nothing like the Gamefisher/Briggs & Stratton weed eater-type air cooled outboards. The current model does indeed come with a centrifugal clutch. Older models were offered with the centrifugal clutch as an option.

We explored Martha's Vinyard last summer - 2 adults + more than 3 kids + cooler + 2 beach chairs. As a family, we all piled forward to help get the dinghy up on plane. Then we went to a beach 3 miles from our mooring. It was a blast. 11.5' Achilles with a 20 hp Tohatsu. $5,500 from defender last year.

On the return trip, I put the engine up on the push pit outboard-holder. At 117 lbs, it was tough, but I used one of our davits to get the outboard onto the sugar scoop step of our Beneteau. From there it was a lift of a few inches. It was heavy but possible. How many long trips do you really take? Also we tow the kids behind it on various things like surfboards. That is a blast. We've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of those 20 horses. By the way, the Tohatsu 15 weighs the same as the Tohatsu 20. It's just a different carburator (and $300 more).

One factor I considered in getting a RIB was that a leaky tube would not mean the dink bending in half. This I learned after borrowing a friends leaky RIB - it worked fine.

If getting a RIB, get a single floor model. The level floor that you get with a dual floor isn't worth the extra weight, IMHO. I plan on adding traction stickers (or paint if stickers won't work) to areas near the back where I'm frequently stepping in after pushing off from the shore.

In NY, if you buy the dinghy and the motor together on the same receipt, you don't have to pay sales tax on the dinghy, just the motor. (I may have that backwards.) Defender will refund you the tax that you paid after you register in NY.

Not sure there's a good place for our dink on deck. I'm thinking about strapping it to one side for any long trip in the ocean. Not sure how well that will work yet.

What ever you choose, good luck.

Regards,
Brad

04-20-2010 07:36 PM

TQA

An 8 hp is the minimum that will plane two people. Get the Tohatsu 2st or the Yam. Both are bulletproof.

A RIB is the way to go IMHO. See is you can get the baby Caribe on your foredeck but remember that the big tube dinks are MUCH dryer.

I used to have a soft bottom dink with an inflateable central spine/keel and a 8 hp Yam it did the job. I now have a C9 Caribe and a 15 hp and it is much better all round.

04-20-2010 07:21 PM

KindOfBlue

Quote:

Originally Posted by RSMacG

Thanks ... by "forced" I mean not that towing will be my usual MO, but simply that I won't ever have another choice. I fully expect to tow as a rule, but not even having an option to bring the tender on deck or stow wasn't attractive. Unfortunately, davits aren't in the cards - my boat has a canoe stern and the yard said, while it's possible, it would be a bigger project that I'm willing to take on (or afford).

I'll re-measure the deck this weekend and see if I can't shoehorn a RIB under the boom, though.

Appreciate all the responses. Cheers.

If you fully expect to tow as a rule, then buy a rib. When you need to haul on deck, buy or borrow a different dinghy for that trip. First check the ribs with the folding transom. If that fits on your deck then you found your dinghy.

04-20-2010 03:44 PM

RSMacG

Thanks, remetau. Your boat is fantastic... actually a pretty similar design to ours, it appears. Back to the yard... hi ho, hi ho...

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