Well, reading Chips response, I realize that I was too quick to make a judgement. I apologize profusely. Plus, I can’t handle a woman’s tears, so please don’t cry. It makes me want to do whatever it takes to make up for my error.

O my gawd, the plot thickens!
First she slips and asks ‘Which young man?’
Then she backpedals with ‘As if I’d cheat on Danny!’
Now she’s progresses with ‘I’m taking a break’ while throwing dust in our eyes that she’ll still be looking in. Yeah, who wants to bet we won’t see her here until the young man of the first part has ….. ?

Always hate it when I am typing a lengthy response to a comment on the previous thread, hit post, and find out a new post has been put up. I am going to repost this with slight editing, not because I think it is terribly insightful, but more to get some clue as to how off base I may be in my thinking. This was in response to a comment NW had made about the “reports” of rioting as a response to the Fergusen shootings. It probably would have been more appropriate on one of the weekend threads dealing specifically with that issue, but, as usual, my weekedns were full.

As a privileged white guy, my opinion has less import than that of those who have suffered under the decade, nay centuries, of intolerance, bigotry, prejudice, violence, etc. that so many have experienced. I remember vividly the riots of the 60’s, specially in the days after the assassination of MLK Jr. Living in an almost all white suburb of Milwaukee I watched what was happening with some trepidation, but with a different perspective than many of my white friends.

I stepped back enough to ask myself, if I was in their shoes what would I do. And my answer was quite simply, I would probably have joined in.

The same thing applies here. But I also wonder, what would have happened differently if the police acknowledged immediately that they were culpable and that the officers involved would punished appropriately, maybe even charged with murder, even second degree? And if that were the standard response to situations like this.

What would happen differently if it was known that there would be no tolerance anywhere of these kind of actions, even those actions of abuse of power that don’t result in death?

What would happen differently if the media gave accurate reporting that didn’t almost auttomatically make the victim look like he or she somehow was responsible for what happened? Or if they didn’t use hyperbole to report what the actual response was?

It is not just this isolated incident that resulted in whatever rioting may have occured. It is the pattern that results in frustration which can find its way to bursts of violent response.

Actually, to some degree, as incident piles up after incident, that there is more rioting. If the situation were the reverse, and there was a pattern of black police officers killing white youth or men, without cause, do you really think some of these armed militia groups wouldn’t be doing something.

To be honest, I look at the somewhat reserved response and think to myself, the discipline I am seeing is remarkable. And yet, it is somewhat like what I see in Gaza.

A violent response just legitimizes the Israeli (not all but enough) view that the Palestinians are animals. No response gives Israel permission to continue what they have been doing, building what amounts to an apartheid state.

The comparison isn’t exact, but it raises the question of what it will take for white society, specially as illustrated in the institutions of power like the police departments, to change?

The same thing applies here. But I also wonder, what would have happened differently if the police acknowledged immediately that they were culpable and that the officers involved would punished appropriately, maybe even charged with murder, even second degree? And if that were the standard response to situations like this.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us, Japa. As a 57 year old white women, I don’t know how I would act on the incessant racism in our society, and the worry that my child could be shot or killed just because of the color of his skin. I, also, agree with you about the similarity in Gaza.

I found a Laydee for Danny. At the farmer’s market yesterday, one of the vendors had a lab ‘puppy’ there, in a playpen. This dog was six months old and HUGE. I figure she and Danny could start a romance and breed elephant-size labradors.

Morning everyone. Happy Birthday to DD4O, and to you’ll JG, did I miss that somehow?! Seattle is getting ready to roast us up today – 93F, oooff.. Trying to cool it off this morning in preparation for the blast! I suppose if I put on my glasses, I could probably sees the screen better..

WP doesn’t want to accept my comment. I was just trying to say that photo of Potus always cracks me up as well. :-D And there’s another similar golfing pic in which he’s doing a high kick, which always makes me laugh as well. I’m just grateful that *my* every move isn’t caught on camera! :-)

Good morning, TOD.
Here is some very good news.
President Rouhani of Iran told his hard-liners to “Go to hell.”
This was in response to the RW opposing nuclear talks with US.
Go get em, Rouhani and PBO. Sign that deal!
And PBO can tell Sen. Menendez and the rest of the senators and ex-SOS from AIPAC, Go to hell, as well.

I can’t believe how afraid the right is of Hillary Clinton. They’re going all out skewering her and trying to find a far left candidate to challenge her.
I do know the right brings this up to distract from the midterms.
Some democrats, even though we are supposedly and allegedly the more educated, haven’t a clue that an election is in 85 days. (Stupid is as stupid does). :(

BAGHDAD — Iraq’s president on Monday formally nominated a candidate to replace Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, a political breakthrough that also seemed to take Iraq into uncharted territory, as Mr. Maliki gave no signal that he was willing to relinquish power.

The nomination of Haider al-Abadi, who is a member of Mr. Maliki’s Shiite Islamist Dawa Party, came hours after a dramatic late-night television appearance in which a defiant Mr. Maliki challenged the Iraqi president, Fuad Masum, and threatened legal action for not choosing him as the nominee.