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Lightroom CC 2015.8 now available

Today Lightroom CC(2015.8) / 6.8, Adobe Camera Raw 9.8 and updates to Lightroom for mobile are now available. Please click here to read the Camera Raw release notes and click here to read all the Lightroom for mobile news.

Introducing Reference View

Reference View is a new view mode available in the Develop Module that allows you to compare 2 different images in order to make them visually consistent. This is helpful when making a group of images from a single event look similar or setting the white balance appropriately in mixed lighting conditions.

To get started,

Go to the Develop Module

Click on Reference View. Its on the Toolbar, and you may need to show the Toolbar if hidden

Drag and Drop your Reference Photo onto the left pane. You can change your Reference Photo by either dragging a different image onto the left pane or using the “Set as Reference Photo” context menu in the Library Module.

Edit the active photo. Use the Reference Photo to guide your editing decisions.

You can now zoom to fit and zoom to fill. Particularly when using ultra high-resolution (i.e. 4K and 5K) monitors, prior versions of Lightroom would not completely fill the Loupe window.

Additional Features

Ability to filter or create a Smart Collection for images that have Snapshots associated with them.

Export a Collection Set as a new catalog.

New Camera Support in Lightroom CC (2015.8) / 6.8

Canon EOS M5

Fujifilm X-A3

Google Pixel

Google Pixel XL

Hasselblad X1D

Leica TL

Nikon D5600

Olympus E-M1 Mark II (*)

Olympus PEN E-PL8

Panasonic LUMIX DMC-FZ2500 (DMC-FZ2000 and DMC-FZH1)

Pentax K-70

Samsung Galaxy S7

Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge

Sony Alpha a6500 (ILCE­-6500)

Sony Alpha a99 II (ILCA-99M2)

Sony DSC-RX100 Mark V

* denotes preliminary support

New Tethered Shooting Support in Lightroom CC (2015.8) / 6.8

Canon EOS 5D Mark IV

New Lens Profile Support in Lightroom CC (2015.8) / 6.8

Mount

Name

Apple

Moment Macro Lens for iPhone6

Apple

Moment Macro Lens for iPhone6 Plus

Apple

Moment Superfish Lens for iPhone6

Apple

Moment Superfish Lens for iPhone6 Plus

Apple

Moment Tele Lens for iPhone6

Apple

Moment Tele Lens for iPhone6 Plus

Apple

Moment Wide Lens for iPhone6

Apple

Moment Wide Lens for iPhone6 Plus

Apple

Moment Macro Lens for iPhone6s (DNG + JPEG)

Apple

Moment Macro Lens for iPhone6s Plus (DNG + JPEG)

Apple

Moment Superfish Lens for iPhone6s (DNG + JPEG)

Apple

Moment Superfish Lens for iPhone6s Plus (DNG + JPEG)

Apple

Moment Tele Lens for iPhone6s (DNG + JPEG)

Apple

Moment Tele Lens for iPhone6s Plus (DNG + JPEG)

Apple

Moment Wide Lens for iPhone6s (DNG + JPEG)

Apple

Moment Wide Lens for iPhone6s Plus (DNG + JPEG)

Canon EF

SIGMA 12-24mm F4 DG HSM A016

Canon EF

SIGMA 85mm F1.4 DG HSM A016

Canon EF

SIGMA 500mm F4 DG OS HSM S016

Canon EF

TAMRON SP 150-600mm F/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2 A022E

Canon EF

TAMRON SP 150-600mm F/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2 A022E x1.4

Canon EF

TAMRON SP 150-600mm F/5-6.3 Di VC USD G2 A022E x2.0

Canon EF

Zeiss Milvus 2.8/15 ZE

Canon EF

Zeiss Milvus 2.8/18 ZE

Canon EF

Zeiss Milvus 2/135 ZE

Google

Pixel (DNG + JPEG)

Google

Pixel XL (DNG + JPEG)

Go Pro

HERO5 Black (Linear FOV)

Go Pro

HERO5 Black (Medium FOV)

Go Pro

HERO5 Black (Narrow FOV)

Go Pro

HERO5 Black (Wide FOV) (raw + JPEG)

Leica M

Leica SUMMARON-M 28mm f/5.6

Nikon F

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 70-200mm f/2.8E FL ED

Nikon F

SIGMA 12-24mm F4 DG HSM A016

Nikon F

SIGMA 50-100mm F1.8 DC HSM A016

Nikon F

SIGMA 85mm F1.4 DG HSM A016

Nikon F

SIGMA 500mm F4 DG OS HSM S016

Nikon F

TAMRON SP 150-600mm F5-6.3 Di VC USD G2 A022N

Nikon F

TAMRON SP 150-600mm F5-6.3 Di VC USD G2 A022N x1.4

Nikon F

TAMRON SP 150-600mm F5-6.3 Di VC USD G2 A022N x2.0

Nikon F

Zeiss Milvus 2.8/15 ZF.2

Nikon F

Zeiss Milvus 2.8/18 ZF.2

Nikon F

Zeiss Milvus 2/135 ZF.2

Ricoh

Ricoh GXR A16 24-85mm F3.5-5.5

Samsung

Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Rear Camera (DNG + JPEG)

Samsung

Samsung Galaxy S7 Rear Camera (DNG + JPEG)

Sigma

SIGMA 12-24mm F4 DG HSM A016

Sigma

SIGMA 85mm F1.4 DG HSM A016

Sigma

SIGMA 500mm F4 DG OS HSM S016

Customer reported issues resolved

Released a new set of Camera Matching Profiles for Canon 5D Mark IV.

Improved support for Canon 5D Mark IV dual pixel raw images. Please see this note for further details.

Lightroom would show an error dialog when attempting to open an image in Photoshop. Please note that this only occurred on Windows and only when selecting “Open in Photoshop” as a Post-Processing item in the Export dialog.

Please select Help > Updates to use the update mechanism in the Creative Cloud app.

Give us feedback

Once you’ve updated to the latest version of Lightroom, don’t forget to leave us feedback about your experiences. Lightroom wouldn’t be what it is today without our passionate and loyal customers around the world. Giving us regular feedback helps us to find and fix issues that we may otherwise not know about. We are listening.

This issue comes up every time there is an incremental update to Lightroom. There is a good reason the standalone version only gets the CC updates when there is a major upgrade, not an in-version update. There is actually a federal law that prevents software developers from adding new features to a free, incremental update of an application. This law was passed back in the days of boxed software and, needless to say, seems out of date and may no longer make sense, if it ever did.

Because the CC apps are paid for mostly by monthly subscription charges, they don’t fall under the limitations of the law. Obviously Adobe takes advantage of the situation to try to encourage subscription sales by adding features between version upgrades, but it’s not like they have much of a choice in the matter. One of the major “advantages” of their subscription strategy is that they can include new features when they are ready, without waiting for a major upgrade.

Meanwhile, incremental updates for the standalone version of Lightroom only receive bug fixes that don’t add features to the program. If you don’t like this state of affairs, write your senators and congressmen about it. Complaining on Adobe forums may be cathartic but it’s entirely futile.

Admittedly Adobe could do a better job of publicizing this issue, but for whatever reason they have chosen to hold information on this issue to a minimum. Instead, they leave it to those of us who have wiggled the answer from adobe staff to publicize the matter and to try to damp down the frustration. Effectively all we can do to get access to the new features is to wait for the next paid upgrade to Lightroom, where both versions of Lightroom will, for the most part, once again share feature parity.

What law exactly? This is bullcrap.
Windows, iOS… have been publishing incremental updates of entire operating systems with new features to this day….
Adobe is just being super stupid because some genius believes that one can force people to do things against their will, and pissing people off. The good news is, competition already noticed the window of opportunity and is coming strong with alternatives.

Adobe released new features with their updates of Lightroom 4. I think they are using the law as an excuse, or at best are relying on an overly broad interpretation of the law. If I understand correctly, they are arguing that by adding previously unadvertised features for free to a piece of software, they may have then claimed the revenue (in full) prematurely at the time of purchase (under the Sarbanes Oxley act). While I’m no expert, I don’t think there is any chance they would be held responsible for breaking the law on this account. Their intent, rather, is to force people into subscriptions.

Which I for one will not be indulging. I would prefer to use inferior software than buy a subscription for software I use only sporadically.

That’s an interesting point about Adobe not being able to deliver new features for free. The one thing I don’t understand is: How can a law of 1 country in the world affect all other 194 ones? I take it “federal” means “applies to the whole U.S.”, not “applies to the whole world”?

Adobe could just deliver offer update package for U.S. customers, and one for everyone else. I’m pretty sure they wouldn’t get sued in Europe for adding Dehaze to LR6, and if any U.S. customer would by mistake pick the “wrong update package he/she’d be on his/her own and having to chance the consequences of getting content for free.

But I guess that’s what lawyers are for, and it’s good to know trying to push customers into the subscription scheme has nothing to do with not delivering select features.

I’m really fed up this “upgrade/update” policy leaving the paid stand-alone version behind. To me it’s nothing more then trying to force buyers of the standalone version into the subscription model. I’ll be very surprised if theres another major standlone release (i.e. LR 7) which includes all these “over-the-time” enhancements in the CC relases.
I’m currently really thinking about migrating to Capture One because of the freedom to choice between subscription/payed, better overall performance, better X-Trans support.

Me too. Why have they still not released a standalone version with the new features since 6.0? Even if their argument about upgrades were valid, they could release 6.8, say, as a paid standalone version.

You want to have your cake and eat it too. Adobe never added major features between major versions of LR with the perpetual license. In fact, this is one of the justifications for their rental scheme. Thank God we still have the option of a perpetual license so we don’t have to switch to a different software package. In the meantime, what has Adobe released that you just can’t wait to use? Let me answer that: nothing. Not that there hasn’t been useful addtions. The DeHaze feature comes to mind. (But it was pretty clear from the timing of that one that they held that feature back to punish perpetual licensees. If you want to complain, complain about that.)

Oh, you are so wrong about releases to be needed. I can tell that I bought Lroom 6cc standalone in des 2016. And I bought a new camera 27th of des. To my surprise, I cannot use use my Lroom and the new camereas RAW-files, they don’t match. And I was advised to upgrade Lroom to 2015.8. Surprise, surprise. I Have a new camera and a new program that I cannot use together. How long till next major Upgrad? I would gladely pay for an upgrade. but I understand this not possible.

You need to update to Lightroom 6.8 – not CC2015.8 if you have the stand-alone version. (They are actually the same software package with different licensing methods). You purchased 6.0 and are entitled to all 6.x updates at no charge. Follow the information at this post to get your update if you are unable to install it via the Help>Update… option. http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2013/06/keeping-lightroom-up-to-date.html

Is there a valid reason for leaving this feature out of the stand alone version of LR6?

If Adobe is going to keep dropping features that are not cloud dependent out of LR6 (i.e. syncing to mobile) quit calling it Lightroom. Call it “The App Formerly Known as Lightroom” or “Lightcloset – The Lightroom We’ve Abandoned”

I am disappointed that particular functionality is limited to the Creative Cloud version of Lightroom. I am actually not opposed to the idea of a Lightroom subscription rather than a license fee, but the lowest-cost Creative Cloud plan that includes Lightroom is more expensive than I’m willing to pay and includes software I wouldn’t use. If there was a Lightroom-only option for something like $5/month, I would probably sign up for that.

But it would have been great if we had an option to pick areas from both pictures (reference and active) and tell Lightroom to adjust the area in the active one to become like the area in the reference. (exposure, color, …)

LR 6.8 does not install on my Windows 10 computer. The install gets to the 54% level then stops with the “Installation Failed” message. I have retryed several times before and after restarting the computer. Any ideas about what to do here would be appreciated.

My issue is that all my Windows 10 computers only updates to.5 and not .8. My Windows 7 machines does update to .8. I noticed that in the System Info Lightroom is reporting the Windows 10 machines as Windows 8.1.

For some reason I can’t get into the forums due to being redirected too many times (not too sure if that’s because I have an enterprise and a personal account) and clearing cache/cookies does not help. I need technical assistance with this.

Why did you spoil profile for the 5d mark iv ! camera standard was just awful ! bring back the old profile for the camera or make a v2 !
You greatly disappoint me ! forced to look for the old version and install it from the curve profile

Really hope you can fix the broken scrolling on Surface Book touchpad in grid view (not great in side panels either). It’s unusable now (grid barely moves or doesn’t move at all depending on how many images are being shown).

Wow. In the German version (and maybe in all versions, don’t know) is half of the “Help”-Menu messed up. Also the link to “Complete / Update your AdobeID Profile” does not work. No big deal, but – wow. 😉

Until today I used on Win10/64bit this driver: 368.81-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe. I could enable the ACR GPU settings under LR >Edit>Preferences>Performance and the LR performance was as usual.
Before installing this driver I used a newer driver. But … LR has had performance issues. Panning around an image was terrible, rendering of images lagged etc. And LR always disabled the GPU in the performance settings.
Now, after your answer, I installed today the newest driver: 376.19-desktop-win10-64bit-international-whql.exe. And now again, LR disabled the GPU.
It seems that LR still does not suppoert the newest NVIDIA driver.
What do you suggest?
Thanks.
Manfred

Can the GoPro HERO5 Black (Linear FOV) profile be used for the Hero 4 Black in Linear FOV? Or are they slightly different? The Hero 4 Black got a firmware update recently that added Linear FOV, but there’s no mention of it on here…

While not designed specifically for it, it may or may not work as there are some likely differences in the two lenses. We will add the Hero 4 with the Linear FOV to our list for upcoming profiles. Thanks for the request.

Would have prefered some of the bigger bugs fixed.
Eg. When syncing with mobile you have to restart Lr agian, and again, and again … in order to get the sync running.
This is a major and pretty dum bug. Would be cool to get basic quality before tons of new features.

Since this feature is not in the standalone version – will there be a new major release of Lightroom (e.g. LR 7) which will include all the features which are currently creative-cloud-only?
Is there any scheduled release date for such a version?

Lightroom Mobile is a step in the right direction. But I’m still wondering when you will make lightroom mobile for laptops? i.e. editing on a desktop, but want to work on the road, no problem, use your laptop and work like a real professional instead of a phone or ipad? What gives?

i have a problem with shortcut X (flag reject) in Library module, only shift+X is available…
X > actually Toggle cell extras
Can fix this shortcut problem very damaging for productivity ?
Thanks
Jean-Christophe

I spent two weeks emailing back and forth with an Adobe tech about the troubles I was having sharpening my Fuji X Trans files and the waxing, mosaicing, and artifacting. I have been round tripping to Capture One for the meantime(not ideal at all). The Adobe tech told me it would be addressed in an update. I’m bummed to see it wasn’t this one. Lightroom destroys my .RAF files. Please fix this.

When tethered lightroom recognizes the camera and everything seems normal. When taking a shot the file says transferring and hangs up. does not transfer the files even after a few minutes. The camera flashes busy. Lightroom has to be shut down and camera disconnected to unlock camera. Running newest version of Lightroom and newest firmware on the 5D Mark iv.

constant crashing. first time when merging a catalog. second time when drag and dropping a folder between folders. right now i deleted from disk some files and have got “An error occurred attempting to change modules”. trying again to merge a catalog it wont let me choose a catalog its frozen and then lightroom crashed and asked if i wanted to send a report. WHAT A JOKE

I appreciate the K-70 support. Under Camera Calibration the standard profile seems to be better color than the embedded profile, but it’s not a huge difference. But the big difference is in speed of showing clear images at 1:1 on my MacBook Pro. The previous version would take a long time showing the “loading…” popup on the image, and even after the “loading…” popup was removed, it would still be a while before the detail would show up. The new version seems to take about half the time do show image detail.

FYI
Found out the hard way… Exiting the latest version (2015.8) from the FILE>EXIT or just X’ing out of the software – when the back up catalog box opens you need to back up or skip. If you try to exit out and forget something you can’t cancel the exit operation… the program shuts down regardless (occurs on both my computers)
Me or something else???

If you take the time to read the warning dialog you’ll see a reference to More Info, which you can find at https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/extract-large-catalog-backup-macOS.html if you missed the link. I admit this 4GB message was confusing at first because, like you, my catalog was under 4GB, though not by much, and I hadn’t seen the warning before. I’m not sure why they decided to include it for the first time in Lightroom 6.8. Heretofore Lightroom routinely optimized the catalog backups (you can see it in the message under the progress bar). Until I looked, though, I didn’t realize what this meant. Well, it means that Lightroom is compressing the catalog (to a zip file) that is roughly one tenth the size of the original catalog. The info page tells us, in effect, that we will need to decompress the catalog backup with a third-party app if we want to use it. It also lists all the versions of Lightroom that have beed compressing the catalog files before now, in case we didn’t notice, as most of us probably did not. What it does not mean is that Lightroom cannot save catalogs over 4GB.

As usual, though, Adobe has done a piss poor job explaining this, leaving the impression that these large catalog files cannot be saved. Which is decidedly not the case. Nowhere in the release notes do they mention the fact that they are now including this warning or what the reason may be for doing so. I suspect some people have expressed concerns about how to access these compressed backup files using Lightroom, though I don’t remember having such a problem. Perhaps it’s just for files that decompress to 4GB or more, though that’s just a guess on my part. Again Adobe doesn’t explain it well—perhaps because these More Info pages are written by engineers who simply have no facility for seeing things through the eyes of a layman/user. In any case, once you figure all this out, there is a handy checkbox in the warning dialog to not display the message again, highlighting I think the incidental nature of the warning.

If you start rooting around in your Lightroom folder you may be even more confused. Lightroom doesn’t necessarily separate, say, the Lightroom 4, 5, and 6 subfolders when it creates the files for an upgraded version of the app. Which means you may have some sorting to do. For one thing, I’ve formed the habit of creating separate folders for each version of Lightroom, though I generally have to do this after installing an upgrade because the app needs to see the earlier catalog in order to create an updated copy. For what it’s worth, my system is as follows: After updating the catalog (the Lightroom Catalog.lrcat file) with the new version of Lightroom, I move the updated copy into a new folder with the name of the latest iteration of Lightroom, in this case Lightroom 6. Then I create a Backups folder within the enclosing folder, otherwise the active catalog will get mixed in with the backups. You will need to direct Lightroom 6 in the Catalog Settings to use the Lightroom 6 folder because as it was installed the updated catalog was placed in the old Lightroom 5 folder. The easiest way to do this in my experience is when you relaunch the updated version of Lightroom, hold down the Option key as you double-click on the app. This will give you a window with a list of catalogs to use and the option to choose another one if the one you want isn’t listed. Once this has been done Lightroom will place your backups in the Backups folder in the Lightroom 6 folder, if you’ve made one.

The reason for imposing this order on your Lightroom catalog files is that, once in awhile, your catalog will become corrupted and you will need to restore from backup. And the latest backup can be hard to find if you haven’t spent some time familiarizing yourself with how Lightroom handles these files. I’ve also found it useful to separate the main catalog file from the backups primarily so that I won’t screw the pooch when I eliminate old backups. If you’re not careful you can create a real mess, as I learned the hard way some years ago.

That said, there is no need to save all those backup files. For one thing, they can consume many gigabytes of storage if you don’t winnow them down from time to time. How often you’ll need to do this will depend on your backup schedule. If you backup every day, you’ll need to clean them out more often. I backup once a week so I usually only do housekeeping once every year to so. But then I have a big hard drive that’s nowhere near full. If you’re using a laptop computer the issue may be more critical. I saved the last six months of backups, but most people could probably do with much less. In fact the last two or three backups would probably be enough for many. This supposes that you regularly back up the drive on which your catalog files live. If you don’t do that, then no number of Lightroom backups will save your bacon if the hard drive on which they are stored fails.

You don’t, of course, have to save your catalog files on your boot drive. For darn sure you don’t need to save the original image files on your boot drive. Personally I wouldn’t use cloud storage either. But that’s just me. If you don’t back up your Lightroom backup files you’re a darn fool, in my opinion. Sh*t happens to everyone sooner or later.

If you already know all this, pardon my verbosity. But I thought the issue of the new 4GB warning message was a good reason to discuss Lightroom backups, which is for many an obscure and unfamiliar subject.

Now I may have a detail or two wrong here. Please if you see a mistake do us all a service and post a correction. Thanks.

Interesting that none of the questions about LR7 have responses. Probably this new strategy of denying incremental upgrades to paying customers is the beginning of the end of standalone LR. Too bad. Now I will have to move everything to one of the workalike programs that are emerging.

Don’t know what you’re talking about. I downloaded the update file (as opposed to trying to update through the app, which has long been a problem with Adobe) and it installed just fine. You can find the standalone updates for both Mac and Windows at https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom/kb/lightroom-downloads.html.

As for a release date for Lightroom 7, Adobe never comments on release dates ahead of time. This can be aggravating when you are waiting for a bug fix, but the bottom line is that the app will be released when it’s ready. And even then, in my experience, some bugs/problems will often remain unresolved for an extended period of time through several updates. That’s because the Adobe engineers are obliged to budget their time and problems are assigned to a priority list. Lower priority items will take longer to fix. Again, this may be aggravating because our priorities often don’t coincide with theirs. The answer here is that the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Be sure to bitch and moan when they seem to be ignoring you. If they don’t give you a specific date for fixing your problem, they may at least respond with an explanation for the delay. Sometimes that’s all we need—to know they are listening to us and that we are not invisible.

Hello,
Since the upgrade to Lightroom CC 2015.8, I get an error with the backup of the catalog. Lightroom asks me to select another folder or even another drive. I’ve tried both, without success. This new version seems to be very unstable. What is the process to officialy complain ?

I usually work specifically out of lightroom. When there are images that need a little more attention to detail I edit them in photoshop. In the past when done editing would just click save and they would automatically be exported back in to lightroom as a tif file. Now I have to save to a location, synchronize folder in LR, And import PS edited image …. PLEASE Tell me I am missing something here and there is a way to fix this. This is adding a lot of extra time to post processing for me..

Only thing I note is that the link above to more information on Reference View mode in the develop module links to a walk through of the develop module without any reference or information regarding Reference View.

My Lightroom CC won’t update, the CC app tells me it’s up to date but version is:
Lightroom version: CC 2015 [1014445]
License: Creative Cloud
Operating system: Mac OS 10
Version: 10.10 [5]
And the new features are not present, and it will not accept the new raw files from my new Lumix GX85 – but if I import them in the Bridge module they are accepted ?
Is there some restrictions on where LR are updated ?
Thanks in advance

You are currently running CC 2015. The current version is CC 2015.8. Support for your camera was added in CC2015.6. You will need to go to your Adobe Creative Cloud App and install the update for Lightroom.

Absolutely unusable on my Mac Pro 6.1, 64GB memory, running Sierra 12.2.
Exporting of RAW files is over 30% slower. Develop module is slower/sluggish. The entire program hangs which only a quit and relaunch fixes. In one hour of work, I probably have to relaunch the app 6 times.

I’ve reverted back to LR CC 2015.7. That works fine with no issues, and I can enjoy over 30% faster exports again.

I’ve updated my version of Lightroom to the 2015.8 release. Camera Raw 9.8. Every time I click, whether it’s on an image or folder, I lose my Toolbars. I can minimize it and they come back. Plus, Lightroom is not asking me to back up my files.

I’m currently running LR 2015.8 and it continues to be incredibly slow when exporting jpegs. It’s taking 6-8 hours to export 2000 images where version 5 was doing this in about 2 hours. This seems to be a common problem and it’s not being addressed by adobe. I’ve tried every optimization option out there and talked to adobe multiple times with no fix. I mean, I love new features but I really wish adobe would focus on performance. New features are worthless if the core functions of the software suffer because of them.

I am researching Export times since we’ve seen a few comments since the CC2015.8 update. I just ran 2000 PSD files export to JPEG and it took a little over 24 minutes. I ran 2000 Tiff files to JPEG and it took a little over 40 minutes.

In order to understand why some of you are seeing extraordinary export times I would like to get some information.

2000 Images: File Format of original and approximate size each.
2000 Exported JPEGs: Final pixel dimensions of each?
Location of originals (local, external, network) and the path:
Free space on drive containing originals:
Location of final export ((local, external, network) and the path):

that means cc2015.8 takes 50% more time to export the same no of files than 2015.7, normaly it should take less time than the previous version,right? and should definitly not be 50% SLOWER than last version!!!

Yes, that would be the desire. Things are quite as cut and dry these days though, with the complexity of modern systems. There’s a lot of variables, from OS, to CPU, to GPU, etc. This is why Rikk was inquiring about system specifics so that we can dig deeper into the issue (and we’ll be reaching out to Rikk directly to figure out why his system was slower as well). A lot of effort was expended in the last two releases to speed up things like export, and for the most part, we’ve seen that we’re moving in the right direction. As shown here, there are two examples in which that didn’t happen, and we need to figure out why that isn’t the case.

lr 2015.8 exported 1000 files form 24 mpix nef to 24 mpix jpeg quality 86% and it took about 110 min to export.other programs took about 35 min to export same photos. on all the photos i only changed WB and exposure to keep the test similar. if i make more changes to the images it will take more time to export. the export speed started ok, but as time went by it got slower and slower. if i export 50 pics at a time it will go faster. at the end lr was using about 4-5gb ram. my pc is 4790k, r9 290x, 16gb ram, win 7 sp1, catalog and cache and windows was on a 500 gb nvme , with more than 200gb free space, and pictures was on another 500gb sata 3 ssd with about 150gb free

the best export was on lr 6.2. it utilized processor to it’s full potential. all other releases after, it does not utilize processor as much, so export time is longer. i would like to see a option to utilize export speed to the max as 6.2 did, even if it means that you can’t do enything when the pics are exporting, and for those that would like to work when they import/export pics, they vould leave the option disabled.

there are also a lot of important updates in 6.8. mainly memory leak was fixed, and the develop is finaly working as it should (when i go from one pic to the next it loades in about 0.7 sec, that is the time afte witch i can change the sliders) and gpu is working as it should on 4k screen every change image is instant, or it takes less than abut 0.15 sec to update, even paste settings with a lot of changes does only take about 0.3 sec to update preview. for me the only thing it’s much worse than before is export speed.

one more “bug” that didn’t got corected: when you use smart previews, the colors you see on screen when editing on develop tab and colors you see when export jpg are almost the same, but not quite. when you disable use smart preview from performance tab the colors match exacly. probably it’s because smart previews are loosly and they aproximate a lot of colors mainly in highlights, i don’t know exacly why, but sometimes it’s annnoying because after export you have to re-edit some pics, mainly the ones that you shift exposure to -1 or highlights/whites to -85 or more.

this is sometimes a issue, but if i disable smart previews then everything gets 3-4-5 times slower in the develop module and that makes editing verry annoying

just tried lr 2015.8 export and it’s useless. exported 1000 files form 24 mpix nef to 24 mpix jpeg quality 86% and it took about 110 min to export.other programs took about 35 min to export same photos. it started ok, but as time went by it got slower and slower. if i export 50 pics at a time it will go faster. at the end lr was using about 4-5gb ram. my pc is 4790k, r9 290x, 16gb ram, win 7, catalog and cache and windows was on a 500 gb nvme , with more than 200gb free space, and pictures was on another 500gb sata 3 ssd

I run Lightroom on a dual xeon E5-2670 (total 16 cores/32 threads), 128GB ram with lightroom on a pair of raid 0 intel ssd’s, catalog and previews on an m.2 nvme SSD and pictures on another pair of samsung evo intel SSD’s

Yet switching in develop to the next picture to – say click auto – takes 5-6 seconds until the sliders are available. Entering crop mode takes seconds, exiting takes again 1-2 seconds. I would expect lightroom to fly on this configuration.

also, what plugins have you installed. some plugins realy slow lr down depending on version of lr. on some version of lr the exact same plugin runs smooth and on others versions of lr the plugin hangs or slows down lr a lot.

form what i have seen lr is stil very dependent on procesor core speed, and not how many cores you have. for exemple, LR on 5960x (3 ghz, 8 cores) runs slower than 4790k (4 ghz, 4 cores), especially the develop module and switching modules. export/import is faster on 5960x, but everything else is slower

Since updating to the latest update, I find that when I delete rejected images (‘Delete Rejected Photos’) , that the image presently in the Develop window will not change when selecting a new image – where one clicks on any of the thumbnails below the window, or even when one selects another image in the Library view, and then switches back to Develop: the image currently being displayed at the time the rejected images are deleted remains ‘stuck’ in the Develop window. I have to close Lightroom down, and reopen. Using an iMac with latest OS.

I am a bit dissapointed. It seems that my lensprofiles (Nikon) are gone. I always used a lensprofile in LR for my Nikon 17-55 2.8 ED but LR doesn’t recognise this lens anymore, after the update. So I have to adjust a, similar, lensprofile at every photo know.
Am I doing something wrong and/or how do I install a lensprofile for the Nikon 17-55 2.8 ED and how does I make it stays in the profilelist?

As usual, I have appreciated the recent upgrades. One thing I would like to see is the ability to push shadows further. I know the information is there because I can increase overall exposure and see them.

Also, any word on when there will be Canon 5D Mark IV dual pixel support?

Try lowering the exposure and raising using the tone curve – the “intelligent” shadow feature of PV2012 is limited for a reason, at 100 shots start to look weird and “hdr-ish”. If you can’t see detail at full shadow push you’re probab looking for something like the “one shot hdr” feature of other apps, but LR/ACR doesn’t have this.

Always slower than before… lack of good new features… why new process and speed improvements? Catalog Backup don’t work anymore… It’s actually really crap… But we are just users… Adobe we need a real Improvement of staibilty and speed… Win10 64Bit, HP Z440 with Xeon E5-1620 v3 and 48GByte ECC-RAM should be enough to edit some RAWs… Dont wanna be a Beta Tester who pays for Software and not get paid for testing this buggy versions!

2015.8 crashes when exporting on MacOS Sierra 10.12.2 (16C67) – iMac w/8Gig. Happens about half the time. If I first close LR, then restart and immediately export, it seems to survive. Not so if I had not shut down first. I have also had it crash on syncing photos, but not consistently.

This is an official complaint from our photography team here. We’ve been using Lightroom since the beginning and even though there have been significant improvements over the years the last several releases of Lightroom have been slow and sluggish and has become a huge annoyance for us. I’ve done extensive research and troubleshooting and this issue of poor performance with Lightroom this last while is definitely not related to our hardware as we’ve tested other competing editing solutions and they perform great. We expect Lightroom to be the gold standard and with that it must perform. We really can’t afford to keep crippling along with software that is not meeting our needs. Folks at Adobe, if your reading this we can’t stress enough how important it is to improve the performance of the software. Stable, fast performance is absolutely a requirement for us to operate efficiently and we need to see some improvements in the next release. Lightroom has always been an important part of our business, but we are getting increasingly frustrated and if we don’t see improvements we will be forced to look into alternative solutions.

Cannot use the shortcut to Sync Photos without prompt. The shortcut used to be [CTRL]+[ALT]+s but it no longer works in Lightroom CC 2015.8 (Windows 7). If there’s a new workaround to syncing photos without getting prompted for the Sync dialog box, I’d like to know what it is.

I have to keep exporting my catalog as a new in order to change the auto Import settings EVERY SINGLE TIME I WANT TO CHANGE THE SETTING GET YOU SHT TOGETHER AND FIX THIS PROGRAM or start paying us to be your beta testers. CAN you say CAPTURE ONE might be everyones best alternative to the crap you keep putting out.

I’m having an inconsistent problem after zooming. (I’m on a mac 10.12.2). Sometimes between 30-60% of the time after I zoom, the photo follows my mouse. It’s as if I didn’t let go of the click. It happens both with a click of the trackpad or a tap of the trackpad. Its very frustrating because I have to click to unzoom and then zoom again to see if I can get it to work. Is anyone else seen this problem.

On this update, for some reason my target folders on the import dialogue disappeared!
I tried way too many solutions until I realised a simple right click and a tick and I was back in the game!
Just in case anyone else has this issue too I thought i’d let you all know

My Creative Cloud app tells me I last updated Lightroom CC (2015) 49 days ago. Yet somehow, without my permission or consent, CC 2015.8 has been installed. I started LR yesterday and found this out. My presets have disappeared; the program has crashed/hung numerous times; all my Edit-in plugins no longer show up; etc.

This is a disastrous and unstable release, made all the more egregious by the fact that Adobe has installed it without my participation or permission.

Thanks, Rikk. I’ve successfully rolled back to the previous release following the instructions in the link you provided. I unchecked Store Presets with Catalog and restarted LR and that solved the user presets problem.

I am a CC subscriber. I guess it will remain a mystery how/when this update happened, and why I found a dialog about a trial version open on the desktop as well.

Unexplained also is the number of serious stability issues I experienced with LR CC 2015.8.

When oh when will Lightroom be able to play 4K video?? Even basic Preview on my Mac can do this with no issue. In Lightroom, it plays first couple of seconds, then freezes. Usually audio continues… The files are from my Panasonic GH4.

I’m, getting two new message in v6.8. One is a warning that my software is not “genuine”, even though I bought directly from Adobe. The other is a message the my catalog is larger than 4GB, and I should use a third party extractor. What’s up?

How about giving use some sort of timetable to when you plan on fixing Lightroom, Slow on all fronts waiting seconds for images to display when going from one image to the next. Auto import settings dialog box not showing up having to export as new catalog to get it to reappear in order to make changes.

Keep us inform so we can decide if we want to switch to a new raw editor if you can’t fix these basic flaws timely enough.
Hopefully you got some qualified programmers from you Twitter help wanted ad.

@Rikk Flohr: Can you please please tell us what the plan is for Lightroom to be able to handle 4K video? I’m not asking for ANY additional functionality, simply the ability to play it so that I can trim/extract frames/make adjustments.
The basic Preview app on the Mac plays these video with no issues whatsoever.
Thanks,
Mark.

Mark, Adobe typically doesn’t comment on pending features or plans. However, I am currently running Lightroom CC2015.8. After reading your post I took my iPhone 7 Plus and set it to record in 4K 30fps mode. I shot an 8-second video and imported into Lightroom. (Sierra – MacBook Pro Retina 2012)

1. The video plays.
2. I can set a Trim point at either end.
3. I can create a poster frame.
4. I can make a capture frame.
5. I can apply a develop preset -in this case black and white conversion.
6. I can export (albiet only at 1080P)

Hi Rikk,
Thanks very much for your reply. I am creating 4K videos on both my iPhone 7 Plus and my Panasonic GH4. I am using Lightroom 6.8 (not CC version) on my Macbook Pro 13″ (Retina, late 2013) with 2.8GHz i7 processor and 16GB of RAM, running El Capitan (10.11.6). The files import fine into Lightroom, and I can do everything you outlined EXCEPT for being able to actually play the file. In the grid view, I can even drag the mouse across the video thumbnail and it scrolls through it pretty smoothly. When I double-click on the video thumbnail however, and try to play it, I get maybe 1-2 secs of video, then the video seizes up, but the audio continues fine. Every couple of seconds, I see an updated frame and it continues this way until the end of the video. I found a post on the Adobe forums where another user posted the exact same issue: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1920932.
I have also noticed that the dynamiclinkmediaserver process goes crazy when I try to do this – shows at almost 300% of the CPU% in Activity Monitor.
Your help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Mark.

Hi Rikk,
Okay, just installed the LR6.9 update, and while a few more video frames appear as the audio is playing, it is still completely unwatchable. The “dynamiclinkmediaserver” process still goes berserk, this time I’m seeing well in excess of 300% CPU. Using QuickTime, the video plays super-smoothly, using barely 4% CPU. Same outcome using Preview in Finder, where CPU gets a little over 3%.
Thanks,
Mark.

I don’t have a specific answer for you at this time, Mark. I just tested an HD 24 FPS, an HD 30 FPS, an HD 60 FPS and a 4K video (Canon 5D Mark IV-created). In each case the dynamiclinkmediaserver went to over 100% with the 4K sending it occasionally as high as 500% but at all times the video played through.

Thanks Rikk, Is this something that is being looked at for fixing? On my machine, the same video can easily play super-smoothly in Premiere, as well as Quicktime and Preview. It seems that there might be a bit of an issue with the ageing LR video engine that hasn’t been upgraded to handle 4K video properly.

Hi,
This version still won’t compress my backups as they are larger than 4gb but I get a pop up that says that my current version should do this. Running Mac OS Sierra.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Rachel

I am 62 years old and have been a loyal Photoshop and Lightroom user since the very beginning; and I have purchased every upgrade. Adobe has rewarded our loyalty with the middle finger by orphaning their standalone versions. It is no surprise that competitors to Adobe are entering the market to satisfy those of us who refuse to incur a perpetual cloud fee! Ultimately, I believe Adobe will suffer loss for this misguided marketing scheme, and that’s too bad!

Hello.
I am user of the package of Adobe for photographers.
I use the Sony Alpha 7-2 camera. Could you make Tethered Shooting Support for Sony? This function does not work with Sony cameras.
I would not like to go to Capture One from LR.