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ProHockeyTalk on NBCSports.comSun, 02 Aug 2015 22:51:46 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: imgoingtowichitahttp://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/19/video-brent-seabrook-gets-ejected-for-charging-david-backes/comment-page-2/#comment-309828
Tue, 22 Apr 2014 04:00:06 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-309828Nope. Good try though.
You can’t really believe that would be over the top?
It’s funny like a joke you laugh at but dare not repeat. Ask any competitive hockey player if you haven’t played yourself.
]]>By: comeonnowguyshttp://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/19/video-brent-seabrook-gets-ejected-for-charging-david-backes/comment-page-2/#comment-309059
Mon, 21 Apr 2014 15:05:55 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-309059And a Hawk is already not playing in Game 4. His name is Brent Seabrook. He was, if you will recall, suspended for that same hit.
]]>By: comeonnowguyshttp://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/19/video-brent-seabrook-gets-ejected-for-charging-david-backes/comment-page-2/#comment-309054
Mon, 21 Apr 2014 15:01:27 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-309054Oh, so now they let up? Plenty of vivid memories of players like Jackman cross-checking Hossa into the boards late, trying to goad the Blackhawks into retaliation.

I don’t like the Seabrook hit at all, and the Bickell hit makes me angry. I don’t like at all what Keith (or whoever) reportedly said. (I guarantee Toews wasn’t saying Get Well Soon, but there’s a distinct 1-on-1 history there, and other way round, we’d be ‘seeing the back of Backes’ head’, believe you me.)

But spare me this outrage. Before the Blues got people who could actually skate, that’s all they would do to the Hawks.

And as for St. Hockey The Right Way Backes, even though he plays in St. Louis and the West and his play often flies under the radar, it’s not hard to come up with a few “blips.”

I wouldn’t wish head trauma on anyone–clean players, borderline players, dirty players, Raffi Torres–and I hope Backes recovers quickly. But this outrage in the face of whatever you’d like to call it–denial, short-term memory, homerism, whatever–is growing tiresome. Just play the game. Like you did Saturday. And won because of it.

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Mon, 21 Apr 2014 09:56:14 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308943I guess you believe in tackling football players when they don’t have the ball, cuz Backes didn’t have the puck when Seabrook hit him. ‘You deserve to have your mellon drilled in the dirt’. ‘hitting someone who has their head down is dirty, NO IT IS NOT!!!!!!!. ‘ ‘Hit him in head, so what.’ Who are you????????????????
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Mon, 21 Apr 2014 09:29:17 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308939From the Backes hit:

You can see the St Louis trainer pushing Toews away as he taunts the incoherent Backes, then the Ref tells Toews to get lost, then Steen tells several Hawks, multiple times, to ‘show some f—ing class’. This was all proceeded by Keith’s antics:

What shows less class than kicking a guy when he’s down? Well, ask Jonathan Toews. Sorry, but if this guy is the Captain of this team then we seriously have to question his title of Role Model.

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Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:58:56 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308937So, the taunting accusation is everywhere now. Who was heard saying it is up for debate, but you can’t tell me Mister Class, and Respect, Toews, is saying anything classy or respectful to Backes. And if you are going to say that, then you are blind, deaf and dumb. If you don’t believe me, just ask, BRENDAN MORRISON or Shawn Thorton.

So, this is nothing new from the Hawks.

]]>By: jamesnick88http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/19/video-brent-seabrook-gets-ejected-for-charging-david-backes/comment-page-1/#comment-308936
Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:05:10 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308936Guess what? Audio came out today that CLEARLY shows the hawks taunting Backes. It was either Toews or Kane I don’t really care who. That is the attitude of your gutless team when they play a rival. Can’t keep a rivalry heated while still respecting the game.
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Mon, 21 Apr 2014 08:02:33 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308935Actually, when the Blues came out earlier in the season trying to hit hard. It pulled our players out of position and gave the Hawks an easy victory. Hitch said that because the Hawks are used to being targeted. The blues are a good team they just had to play their game to win. I commented on like every one of you hawks fan’s posts talkin trash because your players are going to be watching at home come May.
]]>By: jamesnick88http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/19/video-brent-seabrook-gets-ejected-for-charging-david-backes/comment-page-1/#comment-308934
Mon, 21 Apr 2014 07:58:38 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308934The blues never try to injure players, and that is the difference. They even spared a Hawk that game who was vulnerable facing the boards. Because our coach, players and management have character. The hawks lost theirs somewhere. Used to. Has beens. Even your sports writers are disgusted with your team. See Chi Tribune.
I, on the other hand hope Reaves puts someone in physical therapy all summer tomorrow. Hits don’t get more intentional or dirty than that. I do love the little blonde girl in the front row screaming eff you for that entire incident. Watching it live I wanted to jump through the tv and shake her like a martini, but it was funny. Also wanted Shatty to send a second slapshot at the hawk who blocked that shot on the resulting power play. Was lined up with his head so nicely it just seemed fair…
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Mon, 21 Apr 2014 07:46:16 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308933Yeah cite one time Backes charged another player and deliberately drove his head into the boards.
Oh wait, you can’t because Backes has never been suspended. Why? Because although he is a bad a ss on the ice and will run people down, he doesn’t try to injure other players, has class and is an amazing guy off the ice.
]]>By: jamesnick88http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/19/video-brent-seabrook-gets-ejected-for-charging-david-backes/comment-page-1/#comment-308931
Mon, 21 Apr 2014 07:43:07 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308931Even as a diehard blues fan, I honestly think Backes is out for the rest of the playoffs. The way the back of his head slammed into the part between the wall and glass didn’t look good at all. Of course, I’ve seen Backes falling down skating off the ice before and come back 2 days later. We can only hope.

He should have gotten 4 games.

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Mon, 21 Apr 2014 07:40:43 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308930I can’t wait for Monday. Reaves already straight up said he’s going head hunting. The hawks are playing as dirty as it gets, with Bickle trying to throw his knee into players and that Seabrook hit where he’s actually quoted saying he wasn’t paying attention to the puck because he was focused on crushing backes.
I am glad I found some people to rail against the hawks are going to get embarrassed in chicago tomorrow, they might rally and win the second game but this series is over.
Personally, I hope Kane gets put through the glass but it might be Crawford who takes an ‘incidental’ elbow to the head.
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Mon, 21 Apr 2014 07:33:44 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308928As stated. You obviously don’t know the rules because it has nothing to do with ‘targeting’ Though target he did because Sea didn’t have to add the upward trajectory to that hit. He could have gone shoulder to shoulder. But here come the rules. The ‘principal point of contact’ was the head. Anytime that occurs it is subject to review and possible suspension.
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Mon, 21 Apr 2014 07:29:51 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308923The NHL called charging against Reaves in the 1st period.
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Mon, 21 Apr 2014 07:27:31 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308922It’s on now. You guys heard Ryan Reaves. Patrick Kane had better watch himself because the Blues are looking to end his scrawny @ss’ season. Better hope this series doesn’t go 4 more games because Seabass is going to get run down.
Got that out.
The Hawks, from management down are a team playing with absolutely no class. They don’t deserve to advance. It starts with Quenneville grabbing his crotch at the ref. And arguing about the major and game misconduct call on Seabrook. It continues with Bickle on two separate occasions going out of his way to create knee to knee contact with Pietrangelo and then Sobotka. There is the intent to injure on plays like that, as even the usually muted Then the kicker, with 4 minutes left in the game Seabrook intentionally charges and springs upward during his hit so as to make direct contact with the player’s head. The hit was very obviously given with the intention of injuring the other player.
He even said it himself. ‘no I didn’t know Backes didn’t have the puck anymore, because I had zeroed in on him and was trying to take him out of the game’
The Blues could have dished out those hits. They are capable of injuring players. During the game, a Blues player let up on a hit against a Hawk at the blue line, why? Because he was completely facing the boards, and bent over in a vulnerable position. Now we know that if a Blue had been in the same position, he would have been carried out on a stretcher.
Expect penalties, expect scrums, and expect this to go 1 for 1. A hawk will not be returning for game 4.
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Sun, 20 Apr 2014 21:02:17 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308559Is this a fast paced and dangerous game? We have the TV camera feed to see things from a high-angle and slow-mo. From ice level could Seabrook see if Backes lost the puck? Backes’ stick was backwards which would hid the puck if he had it. So, in fractions of a second, Seabrook sees his defensive partner on the ice, a SLB player moving with the puck, and peals off his guy to separate player from puck. And, by the way, hit the freakin hell out of him! No different than any D-man from St. Louis, Boston, Sharks, etc would do.

What looked like a massive body check to the upper body went wrong due to change of Backes’ position and Seabrook’s height. No doubt it was charging. But does NHL call charging anymore. Really? But being too far away and too close to the boards is the source of damage. While falling, Backes’ lower head hits the dasher, his helmet is yanked forward creating the facial cut and the injury. Seabrook should have gotten 2 min charging, 1- game suspension. League just gave him 3 games. Good, now lets get back to playoff hockey!

BTW : If it was Backes hitting Bichell the same way, SLB fans would be our ordering a fourth round at the local watering hole!

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Sun, 20 Apr 2014 19:05:04 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308410If you’re going to quote me, quote me properly. What I said was “there was zero intent on that play by Seabrook to play for the puck.” The key word being FOR. When you play the body, you’re playing to hit the guy and knock the puck free. Backes never had the puck. Seabrook went into the corner with the singular goal up lighting Backes up and nothing else. When you go into the corner like that, if you end up crushing a guy’s head into the glass with your shoulder, then you get what you deserve. You can’t do that anymore and it was clearly explained his his suspension. So yeah, you’re pretty much an idiot.
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Sun, 20 Apr 2014 18:43:53 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-3083963 games. Good season hawks
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Sun, 20 Apr 2014 18:05:20 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308381Exactly. The only difference is Toews didn’t turn his head….if he had, these plays would be identical.
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Sun, 20 Apr 2014 18:01:26 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308377Funny thing is, when Toews got hit, all the Hawk haters were chirping “gotta keep your head up”

Now the shoe is on the other foot and their story changes

]]>By: blackhawksdynastyhttp://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/19/video-brent-seabrook-gets-ejected-for-charging-david-backes/comment-page-1/#comment-308374
Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:53:44 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308374This coming from a Torres supporter….
]]>By: blackhawksdynastyhttp://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/19/video-brent-seabrook-gets-ejected-for-charging-david-backes/comment-page-1/#comment-308372
Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:47:30 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308372So now they can’t hit anybody within 2-4′ of the boards? Where does the rule book say that?
]]>By: blackhawksdynastyhttp://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/19/video-brent-seabrook-gets-ejected-for-charging-david-backes/comment-page-1/#comment-308368
Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:44:01 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308368“Toews is known around the league for taunting injured players”

Prove it. Show us an example of anybody in the NHL saying that.

You can’t. Because you’re lying. Schmuck.

]]>By: blackhawksdynastyhttp://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/19/video-brent-seabrook-gets-ejected-for-charging-david-backes/comment-page-1/#comment-308367
Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:41:14 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308367Foodman learn a thing or two before you make yourself look like a fool.

Toews is one of the most respected hockey players IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!

Widely considered the best captain in the league – IN THE EYES OF PLAYERS, COACHES and MANAGEMENT!!!!!

Take your blinders off jackass!

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Now go away. You don’t belong here.

]]>By: 19dead2http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/04/19/video-brent-seabrook-gets-ejected-for-charging-david-backes/comment-page-2/#comment-308360
Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:34:26 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308360Jonathan Toews and Duncan Keith better have their heads of swivels the rest of this
series. Tough series, Blues-Blackhawks always is. But to hear those two chirping over a hurt player is bush league and players will correct this on the ice. Outside of
the Blues calling up Tim McCraken, Ogie Ogilthorpe, or trying to aquire Cam Janssen
my bet is Reaves or Marrow police those two.
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Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:32:54 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308359Exactly. I understand the anger coming from Blues fans, and to a certain point I share it.

It’s when they forget Backes’ borderline play and Jack man’s less than borderline play over the years where they lose me.

Dustin Brown has never been fined or suspended for kneeing. Are you going to tell me he is clean, too?

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Sun, 20 Apr 2014 17:05:51 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308347Rest of the series. This is disgusting. No respect for other players. He will probably get 3, will deserve more. Any less then 3 and the NHL will be exposed for it’s bias. I think this is worse then the Doug Murray/Rinaldo hit a couple weeks ago.
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Sun, 20 Apr 2014 16:25:15 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2325838#comment-308330If this play by Seabrook happens in Chicago, no call, no penalty. St. Louis fans palyed a HUGE roll in penalty call.

As a Hawks fan, it’s hard to watch Seabrook deliver the late hit. Seabrook is not a dirty player by no means. This hit cost the Hawks the game.

Hindsight cannot be calculated in real time split second decisions. It’s always a roll of the dice and yesterday the Hawks came up snake eyes.