South Africa pull out of tournament

Cricket Australia: "We have considerable reservations ... The security advice does not give us any great encouragement"

Australian Cricketers' Association: "Our position is we can't recommend to our players they should tour Pakistan"

ECB: "We have got some more meetings to go through and we need to get all the information we can get on the situation before a final decision is taken"

Professional Cricketers' Association (England): "We've still got some very serious concerns, despite the fact that the PCB have made every effort they can to try to make it as safe as possible"

BCCI: "We are supporting Pakistan as the venue of the Champions Trophy. Our Indian team had taken part in the Asia Cup without any incident"

New Zealand Cricket Players Association: "They (security plans) are the best we've ever seen for cricket. But the fact is they are unproven and we don't know if the plans can be delivered. We need to see them demonstrated"

Sri Lanka Cricket: "We are prepared to host the tournament, if needed. (But) It should go ahead as scheduled in Pakistan"

West Indies Cricket Board: "At this stage one has to be very careful with the players' safety and what each country has put in place for their team's well being"

Pakistan's chances of hosting the Champions Trophy, which is scheduled to begin on September 12, have received a huge blow with Cricket South Africa (CSA) deciding on Friday that it will not send its team to the country, prompting fears that more national boards are likely to follow.

Australia, New Zealand and England, who have also expressed serious security concerns over touring, are yet to reaffirm their participation for the tournament. And if those countries do follow South Africa, it's learnt that efforts could be made to save the tournament by persuading Pakistan to step aside on its own and let Sri Lanka, the official alternate venue, host the event.

"There is only one way left to save the Champions Trophy and that is for Pakistan to step down on its own and let Sri Lanka host the event," a senior official associated with the tournament, told Cricinfo. "If 2-3 other teams, like Australia and New Zealand, follow South Africa, and Pakistan insists that they will host the tournament, it will have to be cancelled."

South Africa announced its decision to pull out of the event following a meeting with the ICC task force in Johannesburg on Friday. In a statement, CSA said it assessed the presentation made by the team, led by ICC chief executive Haroon Lorgat, as well as the information available from a number of other security reports, including one from the South African government, before arriving at a conclusion.

"After extensive discussions and frank exchange of views, the board resolved not to send our team at this time to Pakistan to participate in the ICC Champions Trophy," Norman Arendse, the CSA president, said. "We respect the right of the Pakistan Cricket Board to stage the tournament and we would urge the ICC to reschedule the tournament as soon as possible."

However, the official that Cricinfo spoke to ruled out the possibility of the event being rescheduled because "the calendar is packed for the next year and it's next to impossible to get dates from all the eight participating teams". Then again, ESPN-Star Sports, the official broadcaster, is unlikely to agree to an event with substitute teams like Bangladesh but seem willing to go ahead with the Sri Lanka option, he said.

"The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is aware that the blast on Thursday in Islamabad, which killed around 60 people, has weakened their case significantly. And Sri Lanka has repeatedly said that they are prepared to host the tournament. So it all depends on Pakistan. They could even be offered the next edition of the tournament, if that is an acceptable solution," the official said.

In such a scenario, India's position will be crucial as the BCCI has adopted a hardline stance on the issue, arguing that the tournament cannot be shifted from Pakistan on "flimsy grounds". "The Indian board has stood by Pakistan even if it means that the tournament might be cancelled. But if Pakistan agrees to stand down from its current position, the BCCI should have no problems with that," the official said.

The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), meanwhile, said it was "deeply disappointed" by South Africa's "hasty" pullout. "We are deeply disappointed and when a decision was to be made on Sunday we think South Africa made a hasty choice," Shafqat Naghmi, the PCB's chief operating officer, told AFP. "Now it's up to the ICC to take a decision but I would say South Africa's refusal will badly hurt the event. We will still do our best to save the event and host it on schedule."

Later on Friday, members of the ICC's task force met to "discuss the feedback received from meetings with stakeholders from Australia, England, New Zealand and South Africa" on the tournament. "That feedback was discussed and will now be considered by the ICC Board, which is scheduled to have its own teleconference on Sunday. The task team noted the decision of Cricket South Africa not to send a team to the Champions Trophy," the ICC stated in a release.

personally the sri lankan option isnt so great there is acivil war there people i am a sri lankan and believe cricket is slowly sliding pakistan need to sorten their act out by 2009

POSTED BY
arifmajeed
on | August 24, 2008, 11:47 GMT

I follow the remarks made by Ace_Spade that cricket players shouldn't expose themselves in front of these terrorist elements. Cricket have so far never been affected by terrorism. These western cricket nations are putting them into unecessary trouble - inviting them (terrorists) towards this very peaceful game of cricket. The tournament should held in Pakistan only.

POSTED BY
Bingoe
on | August 24, 2008, 11:28 GMT

I must say that I'm getting really bored with the race card being thrown into every issue. Get over it! They are not pulling out on racist grounds but for safety reasons. An earlier comment stated the odds must be about 1/500, is that supposed to be reasuring?!! I've got to say that I wouldn't go anywhere if the odds of my son being left an orphan were 1 in 500, so why should cricketers - would you?. Lastly, I'm sure OZ, NZ and SA would love Pakistan to be a safe enviroment to tour and would love the challenge of playing Pakistan at home where they can focus entirely on the cricket.

POSTED BY
ozone8237
on | August 24, 2008, 9:56 GMT

Today its 08/24/08.By the time my comments will be posted a decision might have been taken by Australia, England and New zealand.If those nations want to see cricket, its great fans, unity, trust, hope, and resistance! to prevail and succeed against extreamism, terrorism and evil actions then the voice of today is "UNITY". We can't be cowards and show hesitation that will just boost the terrorist activities worldwide and send a wrong message to them hey! we are scared tell us your demands we will surrender..for God's sake no! Always remember! An area of violence and chaos is more immune and safe if heavily guarded with full security (e.g green zone in Iraq)than the peaceful land where there is no unrest and violence thus, less to none level of security(e.g 9/11, 7/7, oklahoma bombing 05, Rawalpindi blast 2008 e.t.c). South Africa has already weakened our stance against terrorism Aus, Eng & New Zeeland under no circumstances should follow S.A's foot steps rather be persuaded to join us.

POSTED BY
QKhan
on | August 24, 2008, 7:11 GMT

I completely disagree with South African Teams decision to pull out from Champions trophy next month in Pakistan. They have cited security concerns in Pakistan, which is somewhat true, but the irony is that they would agree to play in Srilanka, which itself is a strife stricken country, further i would like to bring to its notice that Terrorism and Security threats are present everywhere on earth, not even America is safe nowadays, they are currently in England, who in the past too has been hit with bomb blasts. How can they (South Africans) prove that their players life are safe even in their own backyards, when everyone in the world knows that South Africa is the country with the most Crime rate. The Southafrican team's captain was here in India in Jaipur, when the Jaipur blasts occured, to play IPL, he didn't seem to flinch then, seems a Lot of Money was at stake then.

POSTED BY
Jondavluc
on | August 24, 2008, 2:12 GMT

the situation in pakistan is more in dire straits then england with one country in complete civil unrest and the other being a decent western country.So a one off bombing england came big woop pakistan seems to have a terrorist bombing ever tuesday.In conclustion i think safety comes first comes first and i think austrlia should pull out

POSTED BY
AleemLatif
on | August 24, 2008, 0:12 GMT

I would agree with Yousuf_Umer that both Pakistan and Sri Lanka should host the event jointly.. so that not to disappoint all the cricket loving people in Pakistan, who have been waiting for this event to take place in their country since so long and so desperately. Otherwise it would be a success for the terrorists to spoil any event in any country at any time and would be failure for the whole peace loving people in the world ... Western teams should also consider that the Pakistan has no prior history of having any attack on sports man/women. And the terrorist attacks are only being targeted towards law enforcing agencies ... and the last Asia Cup event in Pakistan is a major instance of a successful cricketing event being hosted in the same cities where the Champion Trophy has been planned to be hosted.

POSTED BY
Ace_Spade
on | August 23, 2008, 22:23 GMT

I don't see a problem in Pakistan. The odds of having any trouble in Pakistan have lowered a bit. And the odds of having an incident with cricket players? I think its 1/500. If players hype the security fears too much, then the "bad guys" will target them, thinking (actually, knowing they're very scared. They should go ahead as planned. Now I don't understand South Africa. They toured Pakistan in 2007, and now they're scared. All the non-asian countries have security fears, which isn't a good sign. Pakistan and India are neighboring countries. If all the major players visited India during th IPL, why not visit Pakistan? I don't see any reason to be scared. If the players act so tough on the field, then toughen up and go to Pakistan, NOW!

POSTED BY
Babarhanif
on | August 23, 2008, 21:17 GMT

They have just been the first team to announce that and now the other teams will follow.These countries don´t want to promote cricket in Asia.In these times no place is safe, but when it comes to Pakistan, it becomes so difficult for white teams to go there.And I don't understand why the BCCI has to interfere in every damn issue? They think that they are the owner of cricket. With all due respect to Pakistan,heir adamant stance on the safety of the count.
It was just a matter of time before we heard this ridiculous decision from the white teams.Funny how it's only the predominantly white teams .

POSTED BY
kennyg
on | August 23, 2008, 18:29 GMT

Safety comes first and foremost. No security plan, no matter how elaborate, can guarantee the safety and well of Pakistanis and/or visitors at this time of uncertainty prevalent in Pakistan. It provides the terrorists the stage to commit their dastardly and atrocious acts.
South Africa has made the right decision. Others should follow suit. The PCB must agree to hold the tournament in another venue.

POSTED BY
Dme3
on | August 25, 2008, 3:26 GMT

personally the sri lankan option isnt so great there is acivil war there people i am a sri lankan and believe cricket is slowly sliding pakistan need to sorten their act out by 2009

POSTED BY
arifmajeed
on | August 24, 2008, 11:47 GMT

I follow the remarks made by Ace_Spade that cricket players shouldn't expose themselves in front of these terrorist elements. Cricket have so far never been affected by terrorism. These western cricket nations are putting them into unecessary trouble - inviting them (terrorists) towards this very peaceful game of cricket. The tournament should held in Pakistan only.

POSTED BY
Bingoe
on | August 24, 2008, 11:28 GMT

I must say that I'm getting really bored with the race card being thrown into every issue. Get over it! They are not pulling out on racist grounds but for safety reasons. An earlier comment stated the odds must be about 1/500, is that supposed to be reasuring?!! I've got to say that I wouldn't go anywhere if the odds of my son being left an orphan were 1 in 500, so why should cricketers - would you?. Lastly, I'm sure OZ, NZ and SA would love Pakistan to be a safe enviroment to tour and would love the challenge of playing Pakistan at home where they can focus entirely on the cricket.

POSTED BY
ozone8237
on | August 24, 2008, 9:56 GMT

Today its 08/24/08.By the time my comments will be posted a decision might have been taken by Australia, England and New zealand.If those nations want to see cricket, its great fans, unity, trust, hope, and resistance! to prevail and succeed against extreamism, terrorism and evil actions then the voice of today is "UNITY". We can't be cowards and show hesitation that will just boost the terrorist activities worldwide and send a wrong message to them hey! we are scared tell us your demands we will surrender..for God's sake no! Always remember! An area of violence and chaos is more immune and safe if heavily guarded with full security (e.g green zone in Iraq)than the peaceful land where there is no unrest and violence thus, less to none level of security(e.g 9/11, 7/7, oklahoma bombing 05, Rawalpindi blast 2008 e.t.c). South Africa has already weakened our stance against terrorism Aus, Eng & New Zeeland under no circumstances should follow S.A's foot steps rather be persuaded to join us.

POSTED BY
QKhan
on | August 24, 2008, 7:11 GMT

I completely disagree with South African Teams decision to pull out from Champions trophy next month in Pakistan. They have cited security concerns in Pakistan, which is somewhat true, but the irony is that they would agree to play in Srilanka, which itself is a strife stricken country, further i would like to bring to its notice that Terrorism and Security threats are present everywhere on earth, not even America is safe nowadays, they are currently in England, who in the past too has been hit with bomb blasts. How can they (South Africans) prove that their players life are safe even in their own backyards, when everyone in the world knows that South Africa is the country with the most Crime rate. The Southafrican team's captain was here in India in Jaipur, when the Jaipur blasts occured, to play IPL, he didn't seem to flinch then, seems a Lot of Money was at stake then.

POSTED BY
Jondavluc
on | August 24, 2008, 2:12 GMT

the situation in pakistan is more in dire straits then england with one country in complete civil unrest and the other being a decent western country.So a one off bombing england came big woop pakistan seems to have a terrorist bombing ever tuesday.In conclustion i think safety comes first comes first and i think austrlia should pull out

POSTED BY
AleemLatif
on | August 24, 2008, 0:12 GMT

I would agree with Yousuf_Umer that both Pakistan and Sri Lanka should host the event jointly.. so that not to disappoint all the cricket loving people in Pakistan, who have been waiting for this event to take place in their country since so long and so desperately. Otherwise it would be a success for the terrorists to spoil any event in any country at any time and would be failure for the whole peace loving people in the world ... Western teams should also consider that the Pakistan has no prior history of having any attack on sports man/women. And the terrorist attacks are only being targeted towards law enforcing agencies ... and the last Asia Cup event in Pakistan is a major instance of a successful cricketing event being hosted in the same cities where the Champion Trophy has been planned to be hosted.

POSTED BY
Ace_Spade
on | August 23, 2008, 22:23 GMT

I don't see a problem in Pakistan. The odds of having any trouble in Pakistan have lowered a bit. And the odds of having an incident with cricket players? I think its 1/500. If players hype the security fears too much, then the "bad guys" will target them, thinking (actually, knowing they're very scared. They should go ahead as planned. Now I don't understand South Africa. They toured Pakistan in 2007, and now they're scared. All the non-asian countries have security fears, which isn't a good sign. Pakistan and India are neighboring countries. If all the major players visited India during th IPL, why not visit Pakistan? I don't see any reason to be scared. If the players act so tough on the field, then toughen up and go to Pakistan, NOW!

POSTED BY
Babarhanif
on | August 23, 2008, 21:17 GMT

They have just been the first team to announce that and now the other teams will follow.These countries don´t want to promote cricket in Asia.In these times no place is safe, but when it comes to Pakistan, it becomes so difficult for white teams to go there.And I don't understand why the BCCI has to interfere in every damn issue? They think that they are the owner of cricket. With all due respect to Pakistan,heir adamant stance on the safety of the count.
It was just a matter of time before we heard this ridiculous decision from the white teams.Funny how it's only the predominantly white teams .

POSTED BY
kennyg
on | August 23, 2008, 18:29 GMT

Safety comes first and foremost. No security plan, no matter how elaborate, can guarantee the safety and well of Pakistanis and/or visitors at this time of uncertainty prevalent in Pakistan. It provides the terrorists the stage to commit their dastardly and atrocious acts.
South Africa has made the right decision. Others should follow suit. The PCB must agree to hold the tournament in another venue.

POSTED BY
TimEaston
on | August 23, 2008, 17:46 GMT

I can't blame South Africa for their decision as I am not sure I would wish to visit Pakistan in the current climate. On the other hand the Australians didn't go home after the 7/7 bombers in London in 2005. Also I do not understand why moving the tournement from one unsettleed Asian country to another is better, lets not forget that Sri Lanka is in the mist of a bloody civil war.

POSTED BY
boris6491
on | August 23, 2008, 16:48 GMT

One can't blame South Africa. The political situation in Pakistan is just too grave. There is no cricketer who is not keen on representing their country and putting everythings first for the nation otherwise they would not have reached the elite level. Though we have to be sympathetic. The western nations are not exposed to such political struggles as Asian nations are. Their reservations are totally justified and I really think that despite the PCB doing a fantastic job to try and make it safe, it is just better, safer and in the best interests of all if the venue is shifted to SL. It ultimately makes more sense.

POSTED BY
WhiteOwl
on | August 23, 2008, 14:47 GMT

South Africa may be justified in pulling out of the tournament, but i still feel their decision might have been a tad bit hasty. They should have waited till the sunday judgment was made. What in effect CSA have done, is made the decision makers even more pressurized. Here's an idea though,why not scrap the ICC Champions Trophy on the whole. With the world cup and the world T20 challenge(plus the IPL Champions League), the champs trophy serves no purpose. So maybe this whole episode should bring light to this reason!Bottom line though, i agree with Jim_Ribbans,IF Butt and abbasali:Human life is most important BUT if the tournment is not held in Pakistan, then it should be canceled.

POSTED BY
deshwani
on | August 23, 2008, 12:43 GMT

South African Thinking wrong about not come in Pakistan. Why they are scared? While they are not target for any terrorist...! Pakistan is very safe for Cricket Matches,it has been prove between Asia Cup 2008. All teams playing very normaly cricket here. So Please come in Pakistan for Cricket. Pakistan is very safe for cricket and Pakistani Peoples want to watch here good cricket. It is request to South Africa, New Zealand and Austrlia Team.

Thanks.

POSTED BY
LA_Chinaman
on | August 23, 2008, 12:17 GMT

Definitely a shame that South Africa are not participating, as they were one of the favourites to win the Champions Trophy. If it was me, I would go. Any chance to represent your country in cricket would be awesome! The Pakistanis love their cricket and I don't see why the cricket field would be a target for terrorists. But I have never been to Pakistan, so who am I to question the security.

POSTED BY
dollop
on | August 23, 2008, 11:53 GMT

This is the difference between 7/7 and Jaipur blasts and the Pakistan situation: (i) These were isolated incidents in these countries, and (ii) these societies are not perceived to be mired in terrorism. In India and England, one can walk around confident that 99.9% of people do not present a threat. In Pakistan that percentage probably drops to 75-80%. Being unsure of when and who could attack you is intolerable.

POSTED BY
I.F.Butt
on | August 23, 2008, 9:30 GMT

I can understand South Africa. You can not change the fact, that safety comes first. Obviously it won't be great for Pakistan, if they move out to Sri Lanka. But Pakistan should understand that the players are allowed to give out there own opinion. If they don't find Pakistan a safe place, then the CT will have to move out. It is important that players are in ease and don't lack concetration during a big event such as the CT. I think it should moved out to Sri Lanka and Pakistan might as well step aside there self. There is always a next time and a safe time for Pakistan to host the Champions Trophy.

POSTED BY
JasonM83
on | August 23, 2008, 9:26 GMT

It is almost certain that Australia will pull out of the tournament if either New Zealand or England were to pull out. Or either or both of the other two teams pulling out if Australia was to not tour Pakistan. It is true that sportsmen nor any sport events become the targets of any terrorist activity but, considering that the hevyweights of cricket pulling out I would infact recommend the ICC to relocate the tournament to Sri Lanka. And why doesnt India want to play the trophy in Sri Lanka? Is it beacuse they know its hard to beat Sri Lanka if they come up against them? I would say that Australia and England are firm favourites to pull out unless something miracle was to happen.

POSTED BY
Yousuf_Umer
on | August 23, 2008, 9:21 GMT

Well, we all have different views, some of them even poles apart. Why don't we come closer to the equator and think of a joint-hosted tournament in this situation?
The ICC should consider a jointly-hosted Champions Trophy in Pakistan and Sri Lanka if finally it doesn't seem possible in Pakistan. The highly security concerned teams can play their round matches in Sri Lanka and the rest of the teams can play in Pakistan.
For the final round one semi final each can be played in both countries and final match should be given to Pakistan.
If the security concerned teams get to the final, it would still be a reduced risk for them, for a single match only.
The ICC should give it a thought.

Yousuf Umer

POSTED BY
AMUK58
on | August 23, 2008, 9:16 GMT

Are we headed towards a Asia vs Rest divide ? That will be a shameful day for cricket all over the world. Let us pray that cooler heads are able to prevail in such no win situations

POSTED BY
abbasali
on | August 23, 2008, 6:27 GMT

As a Pakistani, I do feel sorry for Pakistan, but I believe that Aus/Eng/RSA/New Zealand have made a correct decision not to send their teams to Pakistan. Human lives are above anything. There is not a single day where suicide bombing didn't happen in Pakistan. Why to blame players and how they are going to focus on cricket. I agree that now a days terrorism can happen anywhere in the World, but how many blasts have happened in India and England compare to Pakistan.
I agree that Pakistan should take a break from cricket, and should be focused on Pakistan itself. Players have family too and one should realize the pressure they have from their family members.

I agree that normal human live is okay in Pakistan, but come on, they have no choice as they have to live there, but if one has a choice then why to risk a life just for the game of cricket.

POSTED BY
JJDW
on | August 23, 2008, 5:49 GMT

It is a sad and difficult state of affairs. On the one hand hosting the event will bring money and foreign interest to the conutry, a huge benifit to any nation, but on the other, always there is the safty issue. Although I do not fully agree with S.A (there are many misconceptions about the safty of certain parts of that beautiful country) I can understand the wish to feel 100% secure when travelling a country with such a complex and potentially dangerous situation.
It is always the 'what if' that holds things back.
By the way, staging the event in Sri Lanka does also pose some questions.....Is there not political fighting there also?
Lets hope peace (and cricket) wins in the end.

POSTED BY
tinzon
on | August 23, 2008, 5:30 GMT

to be safe , let Sri Lanka host the tournament at this unstable condition of Pakistan.

Serious of blasts are discouraging players from touring and PCB should take this into considetatoion

POSTED BY
Satzcrazy
on | August 23, 2008, 5:22 GMT

Its a Shame for CSA to Pull out from the tournament... Terrorism not only in Pakistan, if im not wrong it is all over the world.. I surprise CSA Played an Complete tour in Pakistan in Last oct-Nov, now whats the problem?.. Its a graeat insult to Pakistan and its cricket fan... ICC Should conduct champions trophy in Pakistan only, that only make the true cricket live..

POSTED BY
noaman
on | August 23, 2008, 4:53 GMT

this is all that they want pakistan to be in deep trouble.
we havent seen yet that any kind of trouble reached to players.
and i think so that this kind of trouble is every where.
than why they are targeting pakistan.

POSTED BY
Jim_Ribbans
on | August 23, 2008, 4:41 GMT

To those who question South Africa's decision I have one question: If asked, and given that you have a choice, would you go and do your job in situation in which you percieved your life was at risk? I'm not talking about serving in the military or as a war correspondent, I'm saying civil servant, banker, pizza chef, cricketer.

If you value your job over your life then so be it, but if (as it seems the South African players believe) you are risking your life simply to make a few bob for the ICC, then which of us wouldn't think twice.

7/7 was an isolated incedent, as was the blast in Jaipur. What is happening in Pakistan is systemic and re-occuring and therefore a completely different kettle of fish. This isn't racism, it's realism.

Trust the man on ground: 'I live in Islamabad...Do I think Pakistan is safe for any foreigner not directly connected to Al Qaida to travel to in 2008? The answer is an unequivical and resounding NO'!

Case closed.

POSTED BY
Yes_Kamal
on | August 23, 2008, 2:42 GMT

Imran khan has been repeatedly saying that sportsmen are not the target in pakistan. None of the teams should hasitate to come to pakistan to play cricket . They get the as good of a security as a head of a state. What else do you want??SA last year played in Pakistan . They were there when there was a suicide attack in Karachi, were they threatened or even attacked?
Sri Lanka is the alternate venue , But do we know that there are more suicide attacks in Sri lanka than pakistan.Infact the idea of Suicide attacks has come from Sri Lanka. Will it not be double standard of ICC if the venue was shifted to Sri Lanka??
I think PCB should boycott CA if it was taken away from them. It's about time they took a stance and stood firm to their decision of not playing anywhere else .
My two cents!

POSTED BY
Zoro666
on | August 23, 2008, 2:12 GMT

All you guys commenting here just remember its not your life, its their's, let them make their decisions. There is no use of blaming countries, if they feel insecure then it is so for them, least to say let the ICC make it's move. Until then all you people can relax, let's just hope we do have a tournament ahead and our favorite team wins it... Wishing all the best for India.

POSTED BY
Fahim
on | August 23, 2008, 2:04 GMT

I think....ICC should ban Pakistan cricket until further notice due to it's political unstability+life security...when your country is not safe to play cricket with all perticipated nation...you should have a break from the cricket.

You cannot blame to New Zealand cricket team...Pakistan govt. should not forget about 2002 bomb blast near NZ player travel bus....which is still the main reason for pulling out from the tournament.

As far as Australia....they just don't want to go in Pakistan since 1998!..although Aussies never expected any kind of bomb blast like NZ. They just try to be secured.

Surprised about RSA...as they even visited Pakistan in last Oct-Nov!...may be RSA just joining the party!!!

Last of all for the interest of the game...either they should move it...or cancel it.

And also...ICC should again reconsider about Pakistan's joint hosting of 2011 WORLD CUP!...

POSTED BY
SPS1
on | August 23, 2008, 0:15 GMT

If the Ahmedabad and Jaipur serial bomb blasts in India would have happened before the IPL began, would these players have pulled out? If Champions Trophy was in India then would these teams have pulled out? It is pathetic planning on part of both ICC and the Pakistan Cricket Board. ICC had taken a decision few years ago to award the Champions Trophy to Pakistan. Knowing very well that security situation in Pakistan is always volatile, the ICC and Pakistan board and security teams of Australia/South Africa etc. should have started working in unison more than a year ago to ensure the satisfactory security benchmarks are put in place over a year - leading upto the Champions Trophy. Instead what we have now is last minute efforts by Pakistan and ICC which started only few weeks ago. On a different note, it is really high time that some new countries adopted cricket and played well - it is becoming monotonous to see same old countries playing cricket.

POSTED BY
D.V.C.
on | August 22, 2008, 23:22 GMT

Could Pakistan and Sri Lanka co-host the tournament? i.e. the games involving countries unwilling to play in Pakistan are played in Sri Lanka whilst the others are played in Pakistan.

A slight tweaking of the draw to ensure a good number of games are played in Pakistan might be needed but otherwise this seems a reasonable compromise.

POSTED BY
r1m2
on | August 22, 2008, 21:41 GMT

I am deeply disappointed at SA for pulling out. In fact it makes no sense why they would do this. They could have waited for the ICC to make a decision and then decide. What was the rush? Did they have to commit to something else or were their feeble minded players and administrators unable to take the pressure anymore? I think this behavior by SA can be compared to how their teams choke under pressure in crucial matches. They seem to just not be able to handle pressure and falter at the last moment. They have mocked the authority of ICC and Pakistan. South Africans have shown themselves up for what they really are, chokers. The rest of the teams should be more rational about the decisions they make, one can only hope. Funny thing is I don't remember Pakistan ever having the level of peace that these illogical players talk about. Pakistan still managed to host many tournaments. These players are being totally obnoxious in this matter and I blame watching too much TV for this nonsense.

POSTED BY
Koushik_Biswas
on | August 22, 2008, 21:38 GMT

Does anybody know what terrorism means? It means instilling terror. SA, Australia, NZ and England are in terror. Which means terrorists won. They are probably giggling away in their secret dens. This is exactly what they want. SA has played into their hands. Their choice is their choice - they obviously chose safety over a decision that needed guts. Nothing inherently right or wrong in that, but it does go a long way to express how much they care to fight terrorism, especially if it does not concern their own nation. I am Indian, and I see Pakistan in no less respect that I see India - borders of nations exist to facilitate administration - it does not segregate the vast expanse of humanity on this earth. Tomorrow there may be a terrorist attack in SA, and Pakistanis would have lent a hand in fighting that if SA stood by them in their hour of need.

POSTED BY
Babarhanif
on | August 22, 2008, 21:21 GMT

Terrorism is everywhere.For them it is all happening in Pakistan!they dont realise the fact that the areas where it is happening is far from the area where the games have to be played.People are living normal lives in these area. Secondly why didnt the australians pull out from there ashes tour when the 7/7 happend in London? and in the most central part of London it was.Why dont these teams hesitate to go to West indies where very recently a married couple on there honey moon was bruttaly killed in a Hotel room, I repeat a hotel room (where these players stay)? Last but not the least none of the boarding passengers of the Madrid crash knew that they were going to die, which shows that when its time to go nothing can stop you to go.This is absolutely ridiculous, SA pulling out.

POSTED BY
NY-NY
on | August 22, 2008, 20:48 GMT

SA visitied Pakistan last year and after their arrival in Pakistan and before the matches they complained about too much security. Now in a U-turn they decided not to come since security will not be enough?

That doesn't make any sense.

It will make more and more sense to Fine them and impose a PENALTY on cricket board and on their contracted cricketers. Penalty should include a dent on their team ranking as well as averages of their cricketers.

POSTED BY
gulgula
on | August 22, 2008, 20:44 GMT

I am really happy that SA pulled out of Champions Trophy. I hope Australia, England, Newzealand follow the same path. Just because nothing happened during Asia Cup does not means that nothing will happen during Champions Trophy. Those arguments are weak.

POSTED BY
rock_13
on | August 22, 2008, 20:21 GMT

Safety comes first. I am a little afraid of the shortsightedness of BCCI in not realising that the Kashmir situation blowing up can result in god forbid considerable danger to the Indian team. Since quite a few of these nations have contributed to NATO troops the anger amongst the extremists for them is high and the pullouts are justified. The tournament can be held in SL and the proceeds can be passed onto Pakistan. Maybe a future tournament can also be held in Pakistan when things cool down.

POSTED BY
bkhan420
on | August 22, 2008, 19:25 GMT

Tough, tough situation. Taliban is unpredictable, they would attack anyone, regardless of whether there is a justification or not. They are not muslims, they are cowards, who will not go to heaven but to hell for all the pain they have caused towards innocent families. Furthermore, Pakistan I'm afraid is not fit to host anything as long as the taliban is destroying the country. I do not blame South Africa, nor will I blame England, Windies, New Zealand, and Australia when they pull out. But, the ICC should give Pakistan some hefty dough to keep them happy, and also, make sure Pakistan participates in Sri Lanka for the trophy. However, some of the hostility shown by the white boards, do make it hard for me to understand their true motives. It's hard to argue against them making up their minds before the tournament even began, and the ICC should've known that. Sending Lawson and a bunch of fools to help them with their decision was a waste of time. Essentially, Pakistan cricket is done.

POSTED BY
ssb63
on | August 22, 2008, 19:24 GMT

Boils down to the same stuff, these countries are rasict. They are trying to prove that they are superior. They are a disgrace. I even remember Mr Symonds saying that becuase the tourament is held on 9/11. Wow, shows how his brains work, like a 5 year old. Grow up all of you.
When Mr Hair called Pakistan cheater, all you WHITE spoiled people came out to defend him.
Again grow up.....

POSTED BY
ladka19
on | August 22, 2008, 18:59 GMT

This is absolutely ridiculous, SA pulling away from the tournament for player's security. Ausie were playing cricket at lord's when 7/11 happened. IPL tournament's final were also played after series of bomb blasts in Jaipur in which Gream Smith (SA captain) was playing along with Ausie's Shane Warne, Watson and many more. When it comes to personal big money and prices everyone were playing fine!!!! This is the worst step taken by SA. I would strongly suggest that either tournament should be played in Pakistan or would be canceled.

POSTED BY
Save_Pakistan_Cricket
on | August 22, 2008, 18:43 GMT

G. Smith (Captain of South Africa) took by giving the statement that he has serious concerns about visiting Pakistan. I would like to remind him that he was part of Jaipur team (Rajhistan Royals) and Jaipur was the location of several bomb blasts during IPL where about 60 or 70 innocent people were killed. But since there was much more money to be made in IPL, he decided to continue to stay in Jaipur even when he was not fit enough to play the games. He decided to stay there even when he was only warming the benches.

If Andrew Symonds had not left India by that time, I'm sure he would have done the same thing what Smith did.

He needs to justify why it is not safe to play Pakistan, intact SA cricket board and ICC needs to justify!!!

POSTED BY
Save_Pakistan_Cricket
on | August 22, 2008, 18:05 GMT

Recently Asia Cup was Held in Pakistan India, Sri Lanka And Bangladesh amongst the big names who took part, there was not even a single hick up during the tournament credit goes to the PCB, if Pakistan can Host Asia Cup I see no reason why Pakistan can't host Champions Trophy. Past two to Three years the teams who have visited Pakistan have successfully played cricket.

This is beyond logic and unbelievable to hear that SA have pulled out.
I can bet my life that Australia would do the same am not to sure about the rest of the teams.

Gream Smith took part in IPL and there were terrorist attacks in India, I was very pleased when I found out all foreign players stayed and took part in a match which was held in a affected city. Now this is positive stance against terror, that we are all against terrorism. But that seems not to be the case when it comes to Pakistan to host a tour or a event like Champions Trophy, its a great disappointment.

POSTED BY
Fizzy
on | August 22, 2008, 17:58 GMT

I totally understand the reservations that Aussies, kiwis and the other nations have.On the other hand I also believe that there is still a big communication gap. When it comes to bomb blasts and people dieng and if the Australian or any other nation watches it in the news, for them it is all happening in Pakistan!they dont realise the fact that the areas where it is happening is far from the area where the games have to be played.People are living normal lives in these area. Secondly why didnt the australians pull out from there ashes tour when the 7/7 happend in London? and in the most central part of London it was.Why dont these teams hesitate to go to West indies where very recently a married couple on there honey moon was bruttaly killed in a Hotel room, I repeat a hotel room (where these players stay)? Last but not the least none of the boarding passengers of the Madrid crash knew that they were going to die, which shows that when its time to go nothing can stop you to go!

POSTED BY
TwitterJitter
on | August 22, 2008, 17:56 GMT

Year 2020 - Epitaph on the tomb of world cricket:

"Rest in peace cricket - you poor soul after suffering an untimely death at the hands of incompetent administrators and players who were so narrow minded that they were more interested in elimination and subtraction and thereby resulting in your ultimate death. You bought cheers to a lot of hearts while you were played. Your presence is a gift to the world, You're unique and one of a kind. We miss you very much and love you dearly AND We know our God is taking care of you."

POSTED BY
Save_Pakistan_Cricket
on | August 22, 2008, 17:54 GMT

This is absolutely ridiculous, SA pulling out. Terrorism is everywhere. Australia decided not to tour Pakistan because it's not safe, where was the safety of Australian players when London was devastated by worst terrorist attacks. They were at the Lords Cricket Ground playing a test match. Now if we change this scenario, and say they were playing a cricket match a Lahore I would guarantee my life Australia would have done a run up during match.

This is cricket in Pakistan Cricket and its future. Financially Pakistan would suffer losses. The whole World has united in order to fight terrorism but I don't think this is the case.

Pakistan is targeted unfairly, as Pakistan have played a key part in War against terror, this is not what they deserve in return. If this tournament is moved elsewhere it will destroy Pakistan Cricket.

POSTED BY
The_Best3345
on | August 22, 2008, 17:52 GMT

Pakistan security and political situation is terrible I,m afraid! In current situation when bombs are going off nearly everyday, any Cricket shouldn't be played any way, even if they can provide speacial security for players.

I know some people here are saying that they are living 'normal life' in Pakistan despite these bombings. Well It might be normal over there, but 60 odd people parishing per week due to bombs isn't 'normal' in this part of the world.

I fully expect Aussies, New Zealand, West Indies and England to follow South Africa on Sunday. In current situation the security of people in Pakistan is more important than hosting any cricket tournament.

POSTED BY
AntonPhibes
on | August 22, 2008, 17:46 GMT

I live in Islamabad, just down the road from Wah and a mile from where the Danish Embassy stands and less than a mile away from Luna Caprese Restaurant where people died just weeks ago.

nobody in their right minds would consider playing cricket matches while the country is embroiled in a raging civil war.

Do I think Pakistan is safe for any foreigner not directly connected to Al Qaida to travel to in 2008? The answer is an unequivical and resounding NO.

Currently we are vying with Iraq and Afghanistan for the title of the World's most dangerous and lawless and blighted land - alas.

POSTED BY
cricpolitics
on | August 22, 2008, 17:23 GMT

I would say that SA or perhaps for that matter other teams will also be justified in pulling out the event but at the same time this gives another reason and justification for Pakistan to pull out of this so called war against terrorism (a murderous campaign). I don't give a damn to a cricket game at this point when hundreds of innocent people are being murdered every day. Pakistan must pull out of this murder campaign where it is killing it's own people just to please a bunch of hypocrites. Pakistan must cancel and boycott the event and let the ignorants enjoy the game of cricket over the death of innocent people including women and children. SHAME!!!!

POSTED BY
ShahroseKhan
on | August 22, 2008, 17:08 GMT

The blasts in Islamabad were not in the cricket ground for God's sake, and they weren't targeted at any athlete/foreigner either! They were in a place which didn't have any type of security. I'm really shocked that people cant even understand that.

With the type of security measures PCB is taking, and Government is supporting, I'm pretty sure everything is going to be fine ^_^

POSTED BY
alwaqia
on | August 22, 2008, 17:03 GMT

I know the recent circuimstances are not in the favour of pakistan.but let them to give a chance to proof their abilities. reshceduling is not the solution.icc must think about pakistan.because pakistan is suffering from WAR ON TERROR.now upto which time others teams will hasitate to go to pakistan.they must go to pakistan.terrorism is everywahere in the world.but what should pakistan do.????? is there any solution. if ICC will reshedule this ICC Champions Trophy, then one day other teams will also refuse to come in Pakistan for the World CUP 2011 event. so at that time will ICC reshedule that WC 2011 Event...what they will do at that time.. Last thing i wana mention , if ICC will reshedule ICC Champions Trophy then , other teams will not tour to pakistan for upcoming series.ICC should let them to host this tournament , to prove pakistan a safe country and should be an example for the upcoming series to b held in pakistan

POSTED BY
gchatter
on | August 22, 2008, 16:55 GMT

how is the BCCI interfering? CSA said no, BCCI said yes. Then CSA is also interfering. Giving an opinion or making a stance is logical. BCCI is the main source of income for cricket, face it. The last world cup is testimony to the fact.
I agree with what criclvrprash posted. how is a country supposed to prove itself if it is not given an opportunity? I also agree with fafi, every board has its own say. Other boards shouldnt be expected to dance on the whims and fantasies of a single board.

POSTED BY
Shriman
on | August 22, 2008, 16:00 GMT

It is quite understandable that SA decided to give the CT a miss. Who ever still believes that professional sport is possible in Pakistan under the present circumstances is clearly not keeping up with current events or is motivated by factors other than player and fan welfare. As a fan of Indian cricket, I'm quite surprised that the BCCI has not pulled its team out of the tournament too. If one was to ask me if I along with my family & friends would visit Pak. right now to watch cricket, the answer would be an emphatic no. The primary reason is that the country is simply too unstable - there are reports of Taliban-inspired bombings everyday with more promised, the coalition government is too fractured to enforce any laws, the military is getting restless again, the judiciary is in shambles. Tourism is not a word that comes to mind when I think of today's Pakistan! Will these same ICC officials set an example by bringing their families & grandchildren to Pakistan right now ?

POSTED BY
S_Sen
on | August 22, 2008, 15:57 GMT

Funny how it's only the predominantly white teams (and perhaps the WI, which periodically goes into 'honorary white' mode) that are freaking out about security in Pakistan. These chaps seem to run like frightened poultry at the first whisper of the word 'bomb.' Perhaps it should be explained to them that their chances of getting killed in a car crash in their own country is considerably greater than the chances of being blown up in Pakistan or Sri Lanka.

POSTED BY
SunilPotnis
on | August 22, 2008, 15:54 GMT

Life is more precious than the game/individual, some people/players/cricket board do not want to take a risk, some do. It is an individual choice. It is better to be safe than sorry. I understand this was a chance for some cricketing nations to prove something, but at what cost. Although attacks can happen in any country anytime, it is safer to avoid travling to certain places. Once life lost, it is lost forever but a tournament can always be rescheduled, shifted to new venue. Some one should educate the arrogant, money minded BCCI officials. They think money is everything in the world.

POSTED BY
vishosharma
on | August 22, 2008, 15:47 GMT

The Indian Board, on the other hand, is scared of alienating Pakistan for reasons of cricket politics -- their vote is needed! Even if you leave politics out of it (Pakistan is returning to sponsoring terrorism in India), the safety of visiting players should be paramount concern. I myself would not want to visit Pakistan in these recently uncertain time, far less play there!

Dr. Visho Sharma
Captain of cricket teams for 40 years.

POSTED BY
Dragon_king
on | August 22, 2008, 15:42 GMT

It's really very disappointing for all of us (PAKISTANI NATION) hearing this dual stance of non ASIAN nations. Are all other nations in this world are different that one in PAKISTAN who is living in this country under these circumstances as portrayed by the international media. It is quite different as it looks and we are living a normal life here. Making comments while sitting thousand miles away is very easy. Foreign embassies are mainly situated in ISLAMABAD who are claiming their countrymen to not to visit Pakistan. Islamabad is actually 400 miles far from Lahore and about 2000 mile away from KHI where this event has to be staged. Can any body tell how many of foreigners became victims of such suicidal attacks became as compare to us Pakistanis. Who have imposed this unwanted war on us? Who are the inventors of these terrorests? Now at a time we need such event to strengthen our motivations these cowards are frighten to stand by us, its very pathetic.

POSTED BY
Katri
on | August 22, 2008, 15:41 GMT

If there is one team in the world that should be afraid of touring Pakistan due to fear of terrorists, it is India. And India is the nation that has toured Pakistan the most often in the last 3 years and is also the PCB's biggest supporter on this CT issue. Is is sad that terrorism remains a serious threat in the entire sub-continent; in India, Pakistan, Srilanka and Bangladesh. But all these attacks have been against military installations, places of worship and crowded gatherings like markets. Not a single foreigner has been targeted. Though I am not a Pakistani, I am sure a huge majority of people in Pakistan, be it mullahs or young men in designer clothes, love international cricket. Besides, it just smacks of double standards that Graeme Smith was able to play in Jaipur for the Rajasthan Royals just days after the Jaipur blasts and yet finds it "unsafe" to play in Karachi where the Asia Cup went off without any security problems.

POSTED BY
Pirki1
on | August 22, 2008, 15:33 GMT

Being a true pakistani supporter and wanted to go the national stadium and witness some fabulous cricket. But I realy respect CSA decision as in karachi we live in a world of fear why to put such excellent crickers in jail for three weeks. There are lots of uncertainities in pakistan among common men and for PCB its not the ideal time to hold a such a big event as the fate of the country is uncertain. I would recommond other boards particularly BCCI to shift the event to either SL or england.

POSTED BY
vivaelmore
on | August 22, 2008, 15:31 GMT

I understand the stand of all teams but I'm not ready to understand the stand that G. Smith (Captain of South Africa) took by giving the statement that he has serious concerns about visiting Pakistan. I would like to remind him that he was part of Jaipur team (Rajhistan Royals) and Jaipur was the location of several bomb blasts during IPL where about 60 or 70 innocent people were killed. But since there was much more money to be made in IPL, he decided to continue to stay in Jaipur even when he was not fit enough to play the games. He decided to stay there even when he was only warming the benches. If Andrew Symonds had not left India by that time, I'm sure he would have done the same thing what Smith did. I know the argument is that if Benazir Bhutto can get killed then what kind of presidential security will work for these players; remind you she was not in killed in the rally where the security was appropriate; she got killed when she decided to come out w/o security.

POSTED BY
gocricket1
on | August 22, 2008, 15:09 GMT

This is ludicrous. What about World Cup in 2011, does that needs to be moved or cancelled as well. How these western countries are planning to attend that tournament. Nothing major is going to change in three years. Big sports events in any country bring people together, it provides a window where people feel free to get involved in mass and enjoy the moment. In a way, by not supporting Pakistan we are supporting the groups that are harming everyone in the world. It's a shame that we are acting this way and hurting the game.

POSTED BY
Hassaan.AY
on | August 22, 2008, 15:06 GMT

This was very much on the cards. It was just a matter of time before we heard this ridiculous decision from the white teams. What is beyond everyone's comprehension are the teams' and players' double-standards. Australia continued their Ashes tour despite bombings in London, only 15 km from the Lord's ground where they were playing. Then what happened in IPL is for everyone to see. Jaipur was rocked by no less than seven blasts. But Graeme Smith (SA), Shane Warne (Aus), Shane Watson (Aus) and Morne Morkel (SA) stayed. The only difference was the amount on the cheques they were getting. It is said that everyone has a price tag. I guess those white cricketers were happy with their families getting those huge sums of money, even if they were to die. Only because the national team doesn't earn you as much means your life is also in danger. Interesting!

POSTED BY
Cricboy_Andie
on | August 22, 2008, 15:04 GMT

I dont think CT is actually going to take place.other nations will follow SA's footsteps and for which i or no one in that matter can blame them as chances cannot be taken with security.though India sl,ban,uae,hk played there without any unpleasant event that took place there but i do agree when u fear a risk better not take chances.

I think it will be great to have ICC CT-2008 at Australia rather than Sri Lanka or India where crowed support cant be found for the other nations during the matches.. For a Huge participation like this one must have a somewhat good support for all the teams which can be found at places like SA,Eng n Aust.

Plus Its been ages that they have hosted a king size tournament.

POSTED BY
NY-NY
on | August 22, 2008, 14:56 GMT

SA should pay a fine and face penalty. They left SL in the middle of the series flanking "ONE" email from an unknown terrorist goup. Had SL been less kind and asked for the header of that email then world would be pleased to know the real face behind that email...SA that is.

You cant pick and choose your tournaments even though Pak has gone overboard to provide security and assurances. At this point it doesnt matter. What it matters is how much fine SA should be paying up and how severe is their penalty. It would be nice to penalized their contracted players' averages and their team ranking. Thats just to start with.

POSTED BY
TwitterJitter
on | August 22, 2008, 14:19 GMT

Yes, SA is justified to have made this decision. Their own government was advising them against going to Pakistan. The players were concerned about their safety and at the end of the day they would have pulled out if their board decided to send them. This is a sport and not a war and you can't force players to go and play when they feel a threat to their whether it is real or perceived. BCCI should be ashamed of the way they are bullying other boards to send their teams and respecting their geniune concerns. If something happens to these players, the boards should all gang up and sue the BCCI to bankrupt them. It feels that the other boards are better off dealing with ICL board as Indian team and banning BCCI as unofficial board. They are atleast business minded and professional.

POSTED BY
criclvrprash
on | August 22, 2008, 13:57 GMT

well... This is just the beginning.. for days now there has been intense speculation as to which team will pull out first of the CT.. Now that SA have pulled out, all the other paranoid teams namely Australia, New Zealand and england will also pull out... But try to put oneself in the place of the Pakistanis.. The CT was perhaps the best opportunity for Pakistan to redeem itself, both from the cricketing as well as security point of view.. But I just cant understand the paranoa of the teams having reservations to visit Pakistan... No country is immune from terrorist attacks.. so when India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh have no reservations in playing in Pakistan, with the latter promising fool proof security, why is it that other countries have problems?? Or is it that the apprehensive teams' boards think that their players' lives are costly while those from the Asian block are cheap??? Com'on guys!!! Give the Pakistanis a chance to prove themselves!!!

POSTED BY
usher
on | August 22, 2008, 13:51 GMT

The fact that S.a is first to pull out of these four "fragile" teams is hilarious in the sense that they (S.a) were the most recent visitors to Pakistan out of all these four teams and that they knew it very well as to how calm and cool conditions are at least for the sportsmen in Pak, having said that, i think it just goes to show even more clearly now that the reason for all these "look-alike" teams to pull out is much more "uglier" than the one they are pretending i.e Security!!..and if that indeed is the case then i am afraid it would have always started from "the proteas"(after all they have got the history behind them, haven't they?)

POSTED BY
fafi
on | August 22, 2008, 13:49 GMT

Though i support Pakistan, I'm still saying that South Africa has taken the right decision because Pakistan is suffering.

POSTED BY
Sunny_dk
on | August 22, 2008, 13:43 GMT

South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and England have never been interested in playing in Pakistan. South africa´s pullout is therefor not justified. They have just been the first team to announce that and now the other teams will follow.These countries don´t want to promote cricket in Asia and are trying to do everything to avoid going there. All these teams are secured more than George Bush but still they ignored and avoid going there.In these times no place is safe, but when it comes to Pakistan, it becomes so difficult for white teams to go there.They don´t directly call pakistan for a terrorist state, but think of them like a terrorist state.Why can´t these countries deny going to India, even with bombings etc., because India is the biggest cricketnation in the world and nobody dare to cancel any tour to India and I am only glad for that.Stop this nonsense and make to divisions. One with Asian teams and one with rest...

POSTED BY
fsk15
on | August 22, 2008, 13:38 GMT

ICC and the PCB have gone nuts, if they still say that Pakistan is safe to play cricket following the Islamabad blasts which took more than 60 lives. CSA have made a very tough but also a sensible decision not to send a team to Pakistan. ICC has to now sit down and reschedule the tournament, as time has run out to make arrangements in Sri Lanka for the Champions Trophy. I think that Australia, England and New Zealand should take the same decision. These players have put their lives for cricket and not to one day lose it because of cricket. And I don't understand why the BCCI has to interfere in every damn issue? They think that they are the owner of cricket. With all due respect to Pakistan, their adamant stance on the safety of the country is disappointing.

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POSTED BY
fsk15
on | August 22, 2008, 13:38 GMT

ICC and the PCB have gone nuts, if they still say that Pakistan is safe to play cricket following the Islamabad blasts which took more than 60 lives. CSA have made a very tough but also a sensible decision not to send a team to Pakistan. ICC has to now sit down and reschedule the tournament, as time has run out to make arrangements in Sri Lanka for the Champions Trophy. I think that Australia, England and New Zealand should take the same decision. These players have put their lives for cricket and not to one day lose it because of cricket. And I don't understand why the BCCI has to interfere in every damn issue? They think that they are the owner of cricket. With all due respect to Pakistan, their adamant stance on the safety of the country is disappointing.

POSTED BY
Sunny_dk
on | August 22, 2008, 13:43 GMT

South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and England have never been interested in playing in Pakistan. South africa´s pullout is therefor not justified. They have just been the first team to announce that and now the other teams will follow.These countries don´t want to promote cricket in Asia and are trying to do everything to avoid going there. All these teams are secured more than George Bush but still they ignored and avoid going there.In these times no place is safe, but when it comes to Pakistan, it becomes so difficult for white teams to go there.They don´t directly call pakistan for a terrorist state, but think of them like a terrorist state.Why can´t these countries deny going to India, even with bombings etc., because India is the biggest cricketnation in the world and nobody dare to cancel any tour to India and I am only glad for that.Stop this nonsense and make to divisions. One with Asian teams and one with rest...

POSTED BY
fafi
on | August 22, 2008, 13:49 GMT

Though i support Pakistan, I'm still saying that South Africa has taken the right decision because Pakistan is suffering.

POSTED BY
usher
on | August 22, 2008, 13:51 GMT

The fact that S.a is first to pull out of these four "fragile" teams is hilarious in the sense that they (S.a) were the most recent visitors to Pakistan out of all these four teams and that they knew it very well as to how calm and cool conditions are at least for the sportsmen in Pak, having said that, i think it just goes to show even more clearly now that the reason for all these "look-alike" teams to pull out is much more "uglier" than the one they are pretending i.e Security!!..and if that indeed is the case then i am afraid it would have always started from "the proteas"(after all they have got the history behind them, haven't they?)

POSTED BY
criclvrprash
on | August 22, 2008, 13:57 GMT

well... This is just the beginning.. for days now there has been intense speculation as to which team will pull out first of the CT.. Now that SA have pulled out, all the other paranoid teams namely Australia, New Zealand and england will also pull out... But try to put oneself in the place of the Pakistanis.. The CT was perhaps the best opportunity for Pakistan to redeem itself, both from the cricketing as well as security point of view.. But I just cant understand the paranoa of the teams having reservations to visit Pakistan... No country is immune from terrorist attacks.. so when India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh have no reservations in playing in Pakistan, with the latter promising fool proof security, why is it that other countries have problems?? Or is it that the apprehensive teams' boards think that their players' lives are costly while those from the Asian block are cheap??? Com'on guys!!! Give the Pakistanis a chance to prove themselves!!!

POSTED BY
TwitterJitter
on | August 22, 2008, 14:19 GMT

Yes, SA is justified to have made this decision. Their own government was advising them against going to Pakistan. The players were concerned about their safety and at the end of the day they would have pulled out if their board decided to send them. This is a sport and not a war and you can't force players to go and play when they feel a threat to their whether it is real or perceived. BCCI should be ashamed of the way they are bullying other boards to send their teams and respecting their geniune concerns. If something happens to these players, the boards should all gang up and sue the BCCI to bankrupt them. It feels that the other boards are better off dealing with ICL board as Indian team and banning BCCI as unofficial board. They are atleast business minded and professional.

POSTED BY
NY-NY
on | August 22, 2008, 14:56 GMT

SA should pay a fine and face penalty. They left SL in the middle of the series flanking "ONE" email from an unknown terrorist goup. Had SL been less kind and asked for the header of that email then world would be pleased to know the real face behind that email...SA that is.

You cant pick and choose your tournaments even though Pak has gone overboard to provide security and assurances. At this point it doesnt matter. What it matters is how much fine SA should be paying up and how severe is their penalty. It would be nice to penalized their contracted players' averages and their team ranking. Thats just to start with.

POSTED BY
Cricboy_Andie
on | August 22, 2008, 15:04 GMT

I dont think CT is actually going to take place.other nations will follow SA's footsteps and for which i or no one in that matter can blame them as chances cannot be taken with security.though India sl,ban,uae,hk played there without any unpleasant event that took place there but i do agree when u fear a risk better not take chances.

I think it will be great to have ICC CT-2008 at Australia rather than Sri Lanka or India where crowed support cant be found for the other nations during the matches.. For a Huge participation like this one must have a somewhat good support for all the teams which can be found at places like SA,Eng n Aust.

Plus Its been ages that they have hosted a king size tournament.

POSTED BY
Hassaan.AY
on | August 22, 2008, 15:06 GMT

This was very much on the cards. It was just a matter of time before we heard this ridiculous decision from the white teams. What is beyond everyone's comprehension are the teams' and players' double-standards. Australia continued their Ashes tour despite bombings in London, only 15 km from the Lord's ground where they were playing. Then what happened in IPL is for everyone to see. Jaipur was rocked by no less than seven blasts. But Graeme Smith (SA), Shane Warne (Aus), Shane Watson (Aus) and Morne Morkel (SA) stayed. The only difference was the amount on the cheques they were getting. It is said that everyone has a price tag. I guess those white cricketers were happy with their families getting those huge sums of money, even if they were to die. Only because the national team doesn't earn you as much means your life is also in danger. Interesting!

POSTED BY
gocricket1
on | August 22, 2008, 15:09 GMT

This is ludicrous. What about World Cup in 2011, does that needs to be moved or cancelled as well. How these western countries are planning to attend that tournament. Nothing major is going to change in three years. Big sports events in any country bring people together, it provides a window where people feel free to get involved in mass and enjoy the moment. In a way, by not supporting Pakistan we are supporting the groups that are harming everyone in the world. It's a shame that we are acting this way and hurting the game.