Venn Diagram time!

I always thought Dracula and Jesus shared a lot in common. Both have a huge obsession with blood and eating human flesh (communion, anyone?), and both leave behind mindless bloodsuckers who try to convert you over to the dark side all the fucking time. Plus, like a vampire, they can’t come into your house unless you invite them, so be wary!

Razzle

I love how Jesus is always being compared to all these awesome supernatural humans. Earlier today I read an article where He was compared to Superman. I think it’s great that even his MYTH inspires so much creativity and passion. To think someone could be so inspired by the myth of Jesus to erect a web site this nice to simply try and disprove him is amazing. Talk about a legacy. I haven’t see any anti Superman or anti Dracula sites, but I will keep my eye out for them.

Thiga

When people start committing mass murder, and trying to infect our schools with junk science in the name of Darcula i can guarentee you, you will see sites like this. Noone has ever killed an abortion doctor or stripped people of the right to marry in the name of Dracula. To bad we cant say the same for imaginary jesus.

Thig said ” When people start committing mass murder, and trying to infect our schools with junk science in the name of Darcula i can guarentee you, you will see sites like this.”

Mass murder? In the name of Jesus? Where? When? Last mass murder I’m aware of was motivated by ethnic cleansing. In fact Hitler built his view of ethics on Darwinian principles. Everyone knows that–or so I thought.

“Noone has ever killed an abortion doctor or stripped people of the right to marry in the name of Dracula. To bad we cant say the same for imaginary jesus.”

Why single out abortion doctors in a conversation about murder? Why isn’t the murder of a Mexican teenage sex slave every bit as important as the murder of an abortion doctor? What was the motive for her death? Sex? So shall we condemn sex and cut off every man’s penis? Honestly, to blame JESUS for murder, any murder, is completely ridiculous. Jesus doesn’t control how lunatics act, how they interpret His word, or what they do with it. FREE WILL is the cornerstone of the Christian faith. Without it there is no God. Remove free will, and kiss the Bible goodbye. Hence people are free to do whatever they want. I just read how a cop raped a teenage girl in the back of his cruiser. So shall we condemn the police and take away their guns because of one bad apple? Come on now.

Isaac said “Well if believers of Superman were out killing people in the name of Superman, even though it was blindly odvious he wasn’t real, would it then be so crazy to make a site for Superman unbelievers?”

I have read where people kill in the name of Allah. I heard some flew some planes into the financial center of some huge country. Where are the anti Allah sites? Are you prepared to make one? How about some good old fashioned anti Islamic fundamentalist web site fun? But no, that wouldn’t be as easy. There might be consequences. Because UNLIKE modern day Christians, these people DO *KILL* in mass numbers for their God, and they probably wouldn’t take too kindly to you bashing them with a site that got so many hits. But with Christians it’s easy to have a site like this and even use your real name, isn’t it? Why? Because you and I both know Christians are not going to come looking for you. They’ll pray for you, but they won’t hurt you.

As for people killing doctors and so forth, just because they kill in the NAME of God doesn’t mean they are of God anymore than my signing my name “Bill Gates” actually makes me Bill Gates.

chocobar

Whether or not you think the Doctor killer is a Christian doesn’t change the fact that he was killing in the name of Jesus and Christianity. He read his bible and decided that the abortion doctor should die. He felt he was justified in killing someone in the name of God.
Christians can tear up his membership card but they can’t escape the blame.

Wendy

Thiga

Besides all the usual Christian slaughters like the crusades, witch trials what did all the good Christians do to the Native Americans when they first got to America…..oh they fuckin killed them. Yes you can blame jesus and the christian religion for every murder committed while people thought they were doing gods work. Without religion they wouldnt have been doing it!!

Im not talking about a random christian who justt kills someone in a drunken brawl or whatever,I am talking specifically about the murders that would never have been committed if it wasnt for religion. The fact you use that ” oh you cant blame religion for how someone interputs it ” is mind boggling. Your precious bible is very clear about killing your kids if they are disobediant, and stoneing your wife or brother if they try to convert you to another god. It doesnt allow for interpetation.

This site covers the blatant stupidity of every religion, islam can go fuck itself to, its all equally false and made up. Just because Christians arent out murdering heretics at this time doesnt mean the religion isnt just as violent.

Thiga

Can we blame the religious for constantly removing the rights of their fellow americans like they just did in Maine? or is that jsut more people misinterpeting the awe inspiring book that is the bible?

k.k

I don’t think I’m very scary. I’m a little on the wacky side, but I think that’s cause I’m smart and in my intelligence I see things different from others, but aside from that, I’m a kind, gentle soul.

Is it because I don’t follow the ‘moral code’ of the bible? Screw that, I follow a moral code. Just cause I’m not a Christian doesn’t mean I’m killing and raping and stealing – no afterlife, no consequence, eh? Even with no afterlife, I think there’s a form of it, in your reputation you leave behind. I’d rather people say about me “That Kevin was a real nice guy” rather than “Kevin was such an asshole.”

Brad

mark was the only rational one on this forum. god is infinite wisdom–infinite nothingness. he doesn’t exist. We are jesus’ brothers. He didn’t do shit, but him dying for our sins (eating is a sin) makes it OK FOR US TO SIN!!!!! the bible says so but advises you to create as much as you can and destroy as little as possible. fighting is destroying, but you create a more solid self-image and other things when you win a fight. But you shouldn’t need to destroy things to create things that only exist in your mind. That’s the wisdom of the bible. It was just made for people back then who weren’t intelligent, but were wise, and trusted the word of the bible because they didn’t need facts to make them understand right and wrong. I used to thing that right and wrong didn’t exist, but now i know right is creating, wrong is destroying. It just depends on which side of things you look at. Of course the bible is “made up”. so is everything else that exists.

Brad

mark was the only rational one on this forum. god is infinite wisdom–infinite nothingness. he doesn’t exist. We are jesus’ brothers. He didn’t do shit, but him dying for our sins (eating is a sin) makes it OK FOR US TO SIN!!!!! the bible says so but advises you to create as much as you can and destroy as little as possible. fighting is destroying, but you create a more solid self-image and other things when you win a fight. But you shouldn’t need to destroy things to create things that only exist in your mind. That’s the wisdom of the bible. It was just made for people back then who weren’t intelligent, but were wise, and trusted the word of the bible because they didn’t need facts to make them understand right and wrong. I used to thing that right and wrong didn’t exist, but now i know right is creating, wrong is destroying. It just depends on which side of things you look at. Of course the bible is “made up”. so is everything else that exists.

bobtheantman

Mark, religious persons don’t commit murder “in the name of God”, they do it at his behest, at his command, justifying their criminal, immoral actions with the texts that their god supposedly authored. They commit these atrocities precisely because they have been commanded to do so, not in the name of god, but at his command.
Hitler was a Catholic all his life, he was never chastised or denounced by the church, indeed a special Catholic mass honoring the Fuehrer was celebrated annually for the duration of the Nazi regime. Hitler drew directly from the bible in many speeches condemning the jews for a variety of imaginary crimes, such as Matthew 27:25, which is often used by antisemites to justify the holocaust and antisemitic attacks. Hitler also drew heavily upon the christian tradition of antisemitism in church writings and church edicts and decrees (which inspired and directed the numerous historical pograms, purges, and massacres which occurred in Europe for centuries), including protestant church authors, such as Luther’s writings, to justify his crimes, all the while claiming a divine imperative while murdering millions. Now, it is true that Hitler also drew heavily upon Nordic and other pagan myth to support his political programs and ideology, but this doesn’t assist you at all, for it is superstition and the superstitious mind which allowed for the uncritical acceptance of baseless assertions which were advanced to further the Nazi ideology, so religion in general is at least partially at fault, if not entirely. No Darwinian principles were asserted or advanced by the Nazis, nor were any Darwinian principles utilized or drawn upon in the Nazi ideology, none at all. For an excellent treatise on Darwinism and natural selection I suggest any of Richard Dawkins books.
As for your complaint that we should ignore murders of abortion doctors committed by christians because “Jesus doesn’t control how lunatics act…”, this is an attempt to avoid placing responsibility where it lies, namely with religious documents which are the cognitive basis for these murders and other crimes against law-abiding doctors and nurses. You assert that free will is the cornerstone of the christian faith, which itself is a weak, arguably unsupported assertion, since Paul stated that “If Christ be not risen, our faith is vain and we are the most pitiable of men.” ( I Corinthians 15:14) Leaving aside the doctrinal question of whether free will is the central christian doctrine, the more relevant question is the very notion that an omnipotent deity could command free will. Apparently you miss the irony in this notion. To illustrate the absurdity of it imagine God saying “I command you to have free will.” Moreover, christians never fail to resort to asserting that free will is to blame whenever an immoral, criminal act is performed by a believer, making god a mere bystander, without responsibility or blame in the crime. But if a believer does a kind or generous or humane thing, of course God is to be credited, since God moved the believer to act; never was free will involved in the good action. Well now, isn’t that convenient and tidy, all wrapped up in ribbons and bows, glittering and sparkling, fresh from the department store of proof of God’s goodness? No sir. It’s a despicable thing to try, a shell game of merit and blame, with human beings always at fault for evils and never given credit for kindnesses. This is masochism at its worst, attacking us at our very deepest integrity as human beings, removing us from the realm of our nature, with its dual tendencies for harm and good. Not surprising though, since religion relies on masochism, fear, ignorance, coercion, threats, and bribery to hold its adherents in its grasp.
You also draw the false conclusion that christianity and the bible ought not be held responsible for crimes committed by christians because a few people commit crimes while acting as police officers, and we obviously don’t rid society of police officers. The problem with this conclusion is that when a police officer commits a crime the officer is not following official police instruction, guidelines, protocols, or operating procedures. Quite the contrary, the officer is violating those documents and principles. In the case of a christian murdering an abortion doctor, the christian is acting in accordance with, and according to the commands of, the bible and the god of the bible, not outside the purview of the bible, but precisely according to the teachings within it. So the comparison you make is flawed.
As for the anti-allah sites, they are numerous and generally excellent, but we are living in the U.S., the most prominent religion in our society is christianity, therefore christianity serves as the most germane and generally familiar religion with regard to the discourse, but certainly all religions and religious claims are to be critically examined.