Yeah, because criminals are so trustworthy they should always be believed:

The officers stopped Salva after they saw her placing a fake temporary tag on the back window of her car.

The officers handcuffed Salva after learning she had outstanding warrants for mistreatment of children, trespassing and several traffic violations.

Little angel, ain't she?

They couldn't tend to her medical needs and do their police work as well?? It would seem like erring on the side of caution is always the best thing to do.

Until the cop ends up getting a knife in his back or something. People seem to be forgetting that this *woman* is a criminal. She broke the law repeatedly, not to mention that at least one of her warrants for the mistreatment of a child(!). So now the police should listen and care about her? Her word or minor pain means squat. I don't believe the police should go out of their way to do something for a criminal.

Want the cops to treat you reasonably? Don't be a criminal. Seems pretty simple to me.

I am not saying that they should have had a limo pick her up and then ask her to come back so that they could process her. She wasn't accused of armed robbery or anything so I don't know how the knife statement applies here but couldn't they have just cuffed her?? Cuffing her and getting her medical attention seems simple enough. There are different levels of criminals but committing a crime shouldn't be reason enough to refuse medical attention to someone, IMHO.

Yeah, because criminals are so trustworthy they should always be believed:

The officers stopped Salva after they saw her placing a fake temporary tag on the back window of her car.

The officers handcuffed Salva after learning she had outstanding warrants for mistreatment of children, trespassing and several traffic violations.

Little angel, ain't she?

They couldn't tend to her medical needs and do their police work as well?? It would seem like erring on the side of caution is always the best thing to do.

Until the cop ends up getting a knife in his back or something. People seem to be forgetting that this *woman* is a criminal. She broke the law repeatedly, not to mention that at least one of her warrants for the mistreatment of a child(!). So now the police should listen and care about her? Her word or minor pain means squat. I don't believe the police should go out of their way to do something for a criminal.

Want the cops to treat you reasonably? Don't be a criminal. Seems pretty simple to me.

I am not saying that they should have had a limo pick her up and then ask her to come back so that they could process her. She wasn't accused of armed robbery or anything so I don't know how the knife statement applies here but couldn't they have just cuffed her?? Cuffing her and getting her medical attention seems simple enough. There are different levels of criminals but committing a crime shouldn't be reason enough to refuse medical attention to someone, IMHO.

You know me. I'm a heartless SOB. A repeated criminal with warrants for abuse to a child? Now she "supposedly" (at the time no one knew for sure) needed medical attention for her child? She could have bled to death for all I care, but I have zero sympathy for criminals.

Yes doctor, I am sick.Sick of those who are spineless.Sick of those who feel self-entitled.Sick of those who are hypocrites.Yes doctor, an army is forming.Yes doctor, there will be a war.Yes doctor, there will be blood.....

Yeah, because criminals are so trustworthy they should always be believed:

The officers stopped Salva after they saw her placing a fake temporary tag on the back window of her car.

The officers handcuffed Salva after learning she had outstanding warrants for mistreatment of children, trespassing and several traffic violations.

Little angel, ain't she?

They couldn't tend to her medical needs and do their police work as well?? It would seem like erring on the side of caution is always the best thing to do.

Until the cop ends up getting a knife in his back or something. People seem to be forgetting that this *woman* is a criminal. She broke the law repeatedly, not to mention that at least one of her warrants for the mistreatment of a child(!). So now the police should listen and care about her? Her word or minor pain means squat. I don't believe the police should go out of their way to do something for a criminal.

Want the cops to treat you reasonably? Don't be a criminal. Seems pretty simple to me.

I am not saying that they should have had a limo pick her up and then ask her to come back so that they could process her. She wasn't accused of armed robbery or anything so I don't know how the knife statement applies here but couldn't they have just cuffed her?? Cuffing her and getting her medical attention seems simple enough. There are different levels of criminals but committing a crime shouldn't be reason enough to refuse medical attention to someone, IMHO.

You know me. I'm a heartless SOB. A repeated criminal with warrants for abuse to a child? Now she "supposedly" (at the time no one knew for sure) needed medical attention for her child? She could have bled to death for all I care, but I have zero sympathy for criminals.

BTW I have some good advice for new gun laws that my girlfriend said is cruel.

People who commit crimes with guns get there hand cut off. Committ two crimes and off goes both hands. No more gun crimes

Yeah, because criminals are so trustworthy they should always be believed:

The officers stopped Salva after they saw her placing a fake temporary tag on the back window of her car.

The officers handcuffed Salva after learning she had outstanding warrants for mistreatment of children, trespassing and several traffic violations.

Little angel, ain't she?

They couldn't tend to her medical needs and do their police work as well?? It would seem like erring on the side of caution is always the best thing to do.

Until the cop ends up getting a knife in his back or something. People seem to be forgetting that this *woman* is a criminal. She broke the law repeatedly, not to mention that at least one of her warrants for the mistreatment of a child(!). So now the police should listen and care about her? Her word or minor pain means squat. I don't believe the police should go out of their way to do something for a criminal.

Want the cops to treat you reasonably? Don't be a criminal. Seems pretty simple to me.

I am not saying that they should have had a limo pick her up and then ask her to come back so that they could process her. She wasn't accused of armed robbery or anything so I don't know how the knife statement applies here but couldn't they have just cuffed her?? Cuffing her and getting her medical attention seems simple enough. There are different levels of criminals but committing a crime shouldn't be reason enough to refuse medical attention to someone, IMHO.

You know me. I'm a heartless SOB. A repeated criminal with warrants for abuse to a child? Now she "supposedly" (at the time no one knew for sure) needed medical attention for her child? She could have bled to death for all I care, but I have zero sympathy for criminals.

BTW I have some good advice for new gun laws that my girlfriend said is cruel.

People who commit crimes with guns get there hand cut off. Committ two crimes and off goes both hands. No more gun crimes

I could live with that. It will never pass, but I'd support it.

Yes doctor, I am sick.Sick of those who are spineless.Sick of those who feel self-entitled.Sick of those who are hypocrites.Yes doctor, an army is forming.Yes doctor, there will be a war.Yes doctor, there will be blood.....

Yeah, because criminals are so trustworthy they should always be believed:

The officers stopped Salva after they saw her placing a fake temporary tag on the back window of her car.

The officers handcuffed Salva after learning she had outstanding warrants for mistreatment of children, trespassing and several traffic violations.

Little angel, ain't she?

They couldn't tend to her medical needs and do their police work as well?? It would seem like erring on the side of caution is always the best thing to do.

Until the cop ends up getting a knife in his back or something. People seem to be forgetting that this *woman* is a criminal. She broke the law repeatedly, not to mention that at least one of her warrants for the mistreatment of a child(!). So now the police should listen and care about her? Her word or minor pain means squat. I don't believe the police should go out of their way to do something for a criminal.

Want the cops to treat you reasonably? Don't be a criminal. Seems pretty simple to me.

I am not saying that they should have had a limo pick her up and then ask her to come back so that they could process her. She wasn't accused of armed robbery or anything so I don't know how the knife statement applies here but couldn't they have just cuffed her?? Cuffing her and getting her medical attention seems simple enough. There are different levels of criminals but committing a crime shouldn't be reason enough to refuse medical attention to someone, IMHO.

You know me. I'm a heartless SOB. A repeated criminal with warrants for abuse to a child? Now she "supposedly" (at the time no one knew for sure) needed medical attention for her child? She could have bled to death for all I care, but I have zero sympathy for criminals.

BTW I have some good advice for new gun laws that my girlfriend said is cruel.

People who commit crimes with guns get there hand cut off. Committ two crimes and off goes both hands. No more gun crimes

Madison wrote:Until the cop ends up getting a knife in his back or something.

She was already in custody, so if anyone got stabbed in the back it would be because they didn't do their job when they brought her in.

Madison wrote:People seem to be forgetting that this *woman* is a criminal. She broke the law repeatedly, not to mention that at least one of her warrants for the mistreatment of a child(!).

Nobody is saying that she isn't a criminal, and shouldn't be held accountable for her crimes, but that doesn't give the police to right to mistreat her, or anyone else in their custody.

Madison wrote:So now the police should listen and care about her? Her word or minor pain means squat. I don't believe the police should go out of their way to do something for a criminal.

Yes, they should listen and care about her. Criminal or not, she is in their custody and they are responsible for her well-being. Also, there is more to the story than just her. After she was released she gave premature birth, but the child was alive momentarily. Maybe if she would have gotten the medical attention she needed they could have saved the baby.

Police have a duty to protect and serve everyone, even those (and arguably especially those) who are in their custody.

Madison wrote:Until the cop ends up getting a knife in his back or something.

She was already in custody, so if anyone got stabbed in the back it would be because they didn't do their job when they brought her in.

'Twas nothing more than example. If the police have to stop and treat all crimials like saints, something bad will happen at some point.

Art Vandelay wrote:

Madison wrote:People seem to be forgetting that this *woman* is a criminal. She broke the law repeatedly, not to mention that at least one of her warrants for the mistreatment of a child(!).

Nobody is saying that she isn't a criminal, and shouldn't be held accountable for her crimes, but that doesn't give the police to right to mistreat her, or anyone else in their custody.

I don't see how they mistreated her. They just didn't believe her, or go out of their way for her. That's not mistreatment.

Art Vandelay wrote:

Madison wrote:So now the police should listen and care about her? Her word or minor pain means squat. I don't believe the police should go out of their way to do something for a criminal.

Yes, they should listen and care about her. Criminal or not, she is in their custody and they are responsible for her well-being. Also, there is more to the story than just her. After she was released she gave premature birth, but the child was alive momentarily. Maybe if she would have gotten the medical attention she needed they could have saved the baby.

Police have a duty to protect and serve everyone, even those (and arguably especially those) who are in their custody.

A repeated criminal had some misfortune. Whoop-de-do. I won't lose a wink of sleep over a criminal not being able to bring a child into the world that most likely either would have been mistreated, or a ward of the state anyway.

Yes doctor, I am sick.Sick of those who are spineless.Sick of those who feel self-entitled.Sick of those who are hypocrites.Yes doctor, an army is forming.Yes doctor, there will be a war.Yes doctor, there will be blood.....