I love how in comparison Bolt was getting agog attention and kudos around here for his insane behavior and remarks on and off the track. I've seen whole columns of news about him on the front page and everything is written with a gleeful tone, even the extremely questionable behavior.

This place can really be bonkers sometimes, you really cannot even see your double standards and feel it's perfectly fine to worship one side and rabidly denounce the other, when it's the same situation of genetic advantage. It's always existed in sport, there's always someone faster, stronger. Deal with it.

Alan Webb's Goggles

RE: Caster Semenya calls doper Mariya Savinova a "great athlete" - has no ill will for her.3/18/2017 12:29PM - in reply to LetsRun.com

Savinova is clearly a superior athlete to Semenya - she managed to beat her on moderately boosted testosterone levels.

Semenya is barely at decent club level male runner. I wonder if she lost some weight (any other female athlete would have the same comment levelled at them), she might get a big faster. She is very heavy and cumbersome compared to any other 800m runners, with the exception of Niyonsaba.

found a special snowflake

RE: Caster Semenya calls doper Mariya Savinova a "great athlete" - has no ill will for her.3/18/2017 12:39PM - in reply to behave children

behave children wrote:I love how in comparison Bolt was getting agog attention and kudos around here for his insane behavior and remarks on and off the track. I've seen whole columns of news about him on the front page and everything is written with a gleeful tone, even the extremely questionable behavior.

This place can really be bonkers sometimes, you really cannot even see your double standards and feel it's perfectly fine to worship one side and rabidly denounce the other, when it's the same situation of genetic advantage. It's always existed in sport, there's always someone faster, stronger. Deal with it.

Condescending drivel.

There is a men's and a women's category in sports for a reason. Caster is XY, has functional internal testicals, male levels of testosterone and no womb. Now... which category do you think that Caster should be assigned to...

Unless you are advocating for doing away with women's sport entirely and having them compete head to head against the men, your point has zero merit.

behave children

RE: Caster Semenya calls doper Mariya Savinova a "great athlete" - has no ill will for her.3/18/2017 1:33PM - in reply to found a special snowflake

repeating myths without citation doesn't make it true, I've noticed it is an immediate, commonly repeated series of things about her that seems designed to encourage a certain crowd but no-one ever links to a credible source - that's like saying "it must be true, I saw it on twitter!" or "let's just keep repeating it until everyone believes it"

but, each one of those conditions you listed exist in other women, some elite athletes also allowed to race (and you certainly aren't serious that no uterus = not a woman) if Caster had all of those at once, she would be a genetic lottery like Bolt, so what is the point there? she has too much advantage? is that the measure for elites?

reer

RE: Caster Semenya calls doper Mariya Savinova a "great athlete" - has no ill will for her.3/18/2017 1:57PM - in reply to LetsRun.com

Who cares. Caster is not a biological women. She should complete as a man or not at all. Such a joke that she is out there competing as a woman! This destroys women's running. I simply discount Caster's results. The woman who finished second to her is the real winner for me. If Caster breaks a world record, then it is not a record to me. She is totally selfish for competing as a woman. Anyone arguing against what I have just said is an idiot. How long before it changes?

equal rights

RE: Caster Semenya calls doper Mariya Savinova a "great athlete" - has no ill will for her.3/18/2017 5:55PM - in reply to Pacman

Semenya's great - all the hate thrown at her and she still remains humble and respectful of her opposition without resorting to drug use accusations. Unlike a lot of other elite athletes. Despite all the emotional pressure she must be under she still keeps training hard and must be psychologically very strong. People who keep moaning about her competing in the women's class should instead be asking themselves whether there should be a women's class in track and field .

If there is a women's class to enable a "fairer" competition between athletes then why can people not accept that Semenya has genetic advantages as a woman to compete in that class in the same way that any other athlete in the women's class is blessed with their own set of genetic advantages to be competing at the elite level. If people are not happy with that then why not have another set of competition classes instead of sex based categories which would in fact be a much more justifiable means of setting up a fairer contest for people who may be disadvantaged in one way or another- height classes, weight classes, leg length classes are all good examples for this in track and field.

no surprise here

RE: Caster Semenya calls doper Mariya Savinova a "great athlete" - has no ill will for her.3/18/2017 6:04PM - in reply to LetsRun.com

behave children wrote:I love how in comparison Bolt was getting agog attention and kudos around here for his insane behavior and remarks on and off the track. I've seen whole columns of news about him on the front page and everything is written with a gleeful tone, even the extremely questionable behavior.

This place can really be bonkers sometimes, you really cannot even see your double standards and feel it's perfectly fine to worship one side and rabidly denounce the other, when it's the same situation of genetic advantage. It's always existed in sport, there's always someone faster, stronger. Deal with it.

Condescending drivel.

There is a men's and a women's category in sports for a reason. Caster is XY, has functional internal testicals, male levels of testosterone and no womb. Now... which category do you think that Caster should be assigned to...

Unless you are advocating for doing away with women's sport entirely and having them compete head to head against the men, your point has zero merit.