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Hey E ~ Swing by & read about the Mad As Hell Doctors. We need to be careful to push for Singer Payer.... not just public option.

these are the real insiders.... Doctors who have been doing this for decades.

The fricking spin doctors have us so entrenched in a yes/no fight.... that we are getting broadsided by the rush to lock in to public option.

We don't just want insurance, we want insurance where the for profit health industry is not still holding the decision making power.

We need to fine tune what we are asking for... because they may be rushing to put a crappy deal on the table.

We need to read the fine print or seriously turn the tables on giving them OUR fine print. Taking out pre existing conditions is a good start, but there are a whole host of other horrible things insurance companies do.... limiting referrals, restricting meds, in network providers, and the fine print of exclusions, exceptions, addendums & revisions.

Sen. Wyden D Oregon has been a health care champion, and he is digging in his heels on this current proposal..... if he is, it is because there are some major flaws in the bill.

Of course we need to move ahead, but not with a crappy proposal with as many insurance favorable holes as a sieve.

Thanx fran..I do follow the Docs- on twitter and I blogged on them back in August...they are good guys....( one of them was on with Keith on Countdown tonight, I can not remember which one)...

about the New rules about Insurance- it's kind of a joke- because the rules about Descrimination and Denial of care have been in place since HIPPA laws were passed...but no one has enforced or protected any of us....so who will now- no one has said...

I think many people have been really clear about what is needed with a public option- thousands of letters have been written...many blogs have focused on it...and in a way it is a way to open up a public plan that could be built upon....

Our Whole heallthcare system needs improvement...it's not just about insurance- it is about Care....and Compassion....those two things are rarely discussed...if ever.

We are at a morale precipice andwe need to see where Obama goes with this...if he backs down on a Public Plan- 30 million have nothing...

The Mad as hell doctors point out that in the public option- the insurance companies still hold the reigns. They are in control. They can raise premium rates. They can deny care (if not already on the books can craft new ways to screw people around). They can continue to collude--- work together to set rates in regions, basically driving up prices so no more affordable rates are available. That is not allowed in any other industry.

Their whole point is we need to pull the plug on the for profit model & go single payer.

The public option plan as it stands does not address many of the major problems w the insurance industry.

Yes, we have to start somewhere & soon, but giving a rubber stamp of approval on a bill that still let's the industry run amuck is not what we want -- and I am 100% in favor of universal healthcare.

I just want us to get it right. Not let the teabaggers distract us into rushing into a bad & too loose for industry option we will be stuck with.

Now is the time to fine tune the restrictionswe impose on insurance companies so we get real reform, and not the short end of the stick.

The ins lobby is powerful, and they are stuffing the pockets of congress with lots of cash to buy their votes.

Ignore the teabaggers & really focus on what WE the people want in this bill, we don't want to let the industry continue to call the shots.

Actually it depends on how the Public Option is written- there are 5 bills that have to be reconciled into one bill- the Baucus Bill is the only version that has NO Public Option or ANY public Plan, then Rockefeller and Shumer tried to add Public Option Amendments- and Shumers was more conservative- favored Insurance Companies, only certain ones at a set rate could participate. Rockefellers was better, was actually closely aligned to the Medicare/Medicaid plan in structure.

Rocky's was best. Public Plan would and could work as long as it is structured like Medicare and Medicaid and has same negogiating structure and powers,set in the people's favor, and structured to be competitive and better priced. Rocky's plan was actually intriguing because it could have eventually been expanded into Medicare for all.

I don't want to see more delay- 17,000 a day are losing care, 510,000 a month.... Delaying is causing more people to die...sorry but that is the fact of it- and the Repugs and Blue Dogs are not delaying to make a better bill- they are delaying to kill the bill.....

and just for the record..I would much rather have seen us trying to figure out how to get medicare for ALL....Universal Care......like what Wiener was pushing for....

but this country is so corprotized I don't know if it will ever happen....sadly...

yes, public option was the compromise....and if there is a bill without it...then it is worthless...

and Baucus's bill was the only bill that had a Mandate with PENALTIES in it...and his bill was also the ONLY bill that gives the subsidies directly to the Insurance companies...it was nice of him to let Wellpointe write the bill...it is lots of goodies and gifts in it for the Insurance industry..