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> *Originally posted by **[a\_wise\_fish](/forums/2/topics/33981?page=1#posts-694106):***
>
> how can you get all 7 factions to hate you? the chances of that are nearly impossible…
>
> But getting them all to hate you on max? _Now thats impossible_.
> What i mean is that you edited it =/
when you attack a faction you lose favor points

This is actually impossible, considering for every negative point you gain for one faction, you gain a positive for another. Also, getting to the “ally” status grants you an extra 3000 positive points for that faction, this doesn’t work when you go to “kill on sight”. Killing enemies, doing quests, everything that gains you positive points for one faction, give you the exact same points negatively to another. The _only_ thing I’ve noticed is that if you cross a line, you’ll not actually get the points you were supposed to get (maybe this is fixed by now).
So, either way, you’ll have to explain how you did it, or we can practically assume this isn’t the truth.
EDIT: At least when I played, attacking troops gains you both positive and negative points for factions. If this has been changed, my apologies, but you only proved how much time you had on your hands then.

> *Originally posted by **[Darkruler2005](/forums/2/topics/33981?page=1#posts-694259):***
>
> This is actually impossible, considering for every negative point you gain for one faction, you gain a positive for another. Also, getting to the “ally” status grants you an extra 3000 positive points for that faction, this doesn’t work when you go to “kill on sight”. Killing enemies, doing quests, everything that gains you positive points for one faction, give you the exact same points negatively to another. The _only_ thing I’ve noticed is that if you cross a line, you’ll not actually get the points you were supposed to get (maybe this is fixed by now).
>
> So, either way, you’ll have to explain how you did it, or we can practically assume this isn’t the truth.
If you grind it, you get 3+ for killing a ranger with alliance and 5- with the rangers, so it works.

> *Originally posted by **[isoluta](/forums/2/topics/33981?page=1#posts-694267):***
> > *Originally posted by **[Darkruler2005](/forums/2/topics/33981?page=1#posts-694259):***
> >
> > This is actually impossible, considering for every negative point you gain for one faction, you gain a positive for another. Also, getting to the “ally” status grants you an extra 3000 positive points for that faction, this doesn’t work when you go to “kill on sight”. Killing enemies, doing quests, everything that gains you positive points for one faction, give you the exact same points negatively to another. The _only_ thing I’ve noticed is that if you cross a line, you’ll not actually get the points you were supposed to get (maybe this is fixed by now).
> >
> > So, either way, you’ll have to explain how you did it, or we can practically assume this isn’t the truth.
>
> If you grind it, you get 3+ for killing a ranger with alliance and 5- with the rangers, so it works.
but you’ll always make something go positive when you kill something. Making one bar lower is guarenteed to make another bar higher, so it is impossible to get EVERYTHING to the minimum.

I noticed when a faction hates you enough, you can’t gain any favor points in that faction anymore, even though it tells you that you have. Doing that by level 15 seems odd to me though. Level 15 is pretty early on. I was level 33 when i got all achievements.

> *Originally posted by **[SithDoughnut](http://www.kongregate.com/forums/2/topics/33981#posts-696170):***
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> Damn it, this topic made me lose. So now I’m going to make you all lose.
What, **The Game**?