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Re: abstract?

Okay Nyota, I used feel as a reaction to touch. Off couse there is also feel and feelings as a result of intuition, for instance. All of them abstract, of course. Also I think abstract art, not showing any theme in concrete, is meant to do just that: induce feelings. While to induce them the artist abstracted from the theme turning it into a thought without specific terms of referrence.

Re: abstract?

I wouldn't say that that is an abstract idea. It seems quite concrete, although completely unrealistic!

An abstract version of that might be something like "Someday I might go to some planet or other and play something with some beings who might live on that planet." That's pretty abstract as far as ideas go!

Re: abstract?

Originally Posted by emsr2d2

I wouldn't say that that is an abstract idea. It seems quite concrete, although completely unrealistic!

An abstract version of that might be something like "Someday I might go to some planet or other and play something with some beings who might live on that planet." That's pretty abstract as far as ideas go!

I'm figuring out the sentence that you wrote, you're referring to a non-specific things that an abstract idea is. So this is correct?
Why would you say its concrete? Do Martians actually exist, I think no one knows, so it is an abstract idea right?

Re: abstract?

Originally Posted by mabzki

I'm figuring out the sentence that you wrote, you're referring to a non-specific things that an abstract idea is. So this is correct?
Why would you say its concrete? Do Martians actually exist, I think no one knows, so it is an abstract idea right?

The idea of an 'abstract idea' is in itself rather abstract.

There does not seem to be much agreement in what an 'abstract idea' is, as you will find if you google the words.

An idea itself is, in some ways abstract, but, in my opinion, the possible existence of Martians is not particularly abstract. It is a hypothetical question, but that's not the same thing.

Re: abstract?

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An idea itself is, in some ways abstract, but, in my opinion, the possible existence of Martians is not particularly abstract. It is a hypothetical question, but that's not the same thing...

I had a friend many years ago studying for the priesthood, and while he was studying Canon Law he came across - and briefly but unsuccessfully adopted - the prescriptive view that ideas were about concrete things, whereas notions were about abstract things: 'the idea of an apple' but 'the notion of seriousness'. But this is silly. I only mention it because some students may meet such a prejudice.