Actually there are activities toward adoption of various ebXMLtechnologies, including ebMS, CPPA, BPSS, ..., in RosettaNet. Most ofthem are, however, investigation activities for the future (I may not be100% right -- I can't see everything).

Someone (I thought he was a founder of Intel) said that in order forsome new technology to replace existing, already-adopted technology, itmust be at least 10 times better.

If ebMS were obviously 10 times better than RNIF (not in price --- RNIF1.1 is a sunk-cost), RosettaNet trading partners would have already beenpushing RNIF 3. That is not happening (yet). I understand ebMS willachieve lower cost in many aspects (I was part of ebXML phase Iactivity, too). But apparently this is not well proven from the users'perspective. It's still our turn to prove this.

It is sometimes difficult to find good values in ebMS other thanimplementation cost. Since price only matters for the first or recurringinvestment, lower implementation cost or lower product price is oftennot good enough for users to adopt it. I'd be very happy if someone canguide me to good value analysis on this. IMHO real value of ebMS willcome from the synergy effect with other ebXML specs, especially inregard to recurring cost. I want to see it really happen. It's worthdiscussing, where we are in reality and where we should go.

How do you think?

Kenji Nagahashi

> RosttaNet members that frequent this site need to make their voiceheard by> contacting Board members to push for RNIF 3. The ROI in using RNIF 3over 2> would be more participation in both RosettaNet and ebXML initiativesas a> direct result of lower implement cost.>> Howard>> -----Original Message-----> From: Eckenfels. Bernd [mailto:b.eckenfels@seeburger.de]> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 4:18 AM> To: ebxml-dev@lists.ebxml.org> Cc: nagahashi@fla.fujitsu.com> Subject: Re: [ebxml-dev] RNIF vs ebXML>>> Hello,>> >Yes, RosettaNet has announced that they are going to adopt ebMS in> >future release of RNIF (=3.0). You can find ebXML's press release at:> >> >>> most of the RosettaNet users stick to RNIF1.1, RosettaNet itself is> promoting and pushing 2.0 very heavyly. They even offer compatibility> baging. To me it looks like nobody seriously is working on the ebXML> transition at RosettaNet.>> Of course I can be wrong, as I do not have memebr insight. Perhaps> anybody on the List is RosettaNet Champion?>> RosettaNets announcemnrt to migrate to ebXML is over a year old.>> Greetings> Bernd>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------> The ebxml-dev list is sponsored by OASIS.> To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription> manager: <http://lists.ebxml.org/ob/adm.pl>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------> The ebxml-dev list is sponsored by OASIS.> To subscribe or unsubscribe from this elist use the subscription> manager: <http://lists.ebxml.org/ob/adm.pl>

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