What will you run (regularly)?

So the LFR/Flex/Normal/HC thread stretches on, however i'm intrigued to know what people will actually run.

I personally will now only run N/HC + flex. I don't plan on visiting LFR again, it's just so impersonal, it's almost an oxymoron. I've barely run it this tier but I'm looking forward to flex. It should be a fun way to get the social members of our guild more involved in the raiding scene, i know they're looking forward to its introduction too.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

daishan wrote:I voted N/H + Flex but if I still need the stam cd reduction trinket when that wing of lfr opens I'll have to go and kill that boss on lfr >.<

Interesting you mentioned that trinket http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=105070, i was just looking at it after perusing Kerriodos's loot sheet. Even the lfr version at 16% could be absurdly powerful depending on the fight. And 2328 stam isn't to shabby either.

I've clicked N/H+Flex, because that's likely what I'll be running for quite a while, on both main and alt. Flex might be something I could jump into just to tag along with friends even if there are no loot upgrades for me (though obviously by then I won't run every wing every week, and I'll prefer to come on the character that can actually use loot there).

I will run the entire LFR once just to have run it once, I guess. After that, I might revisit some wings if they provide an actual upgrade for my main character's main spec. Considering I'm currently in 542 gear, that is likely only going to be trinkets, and possibly a tier piece.

daishan wrote:I voted N/H + Flex but if I still need the stam cd reduction trinket when that wing of lfr opens I'll have to go and kill that boss on lfr >.<

Interesting you mentioned that trinket http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=105070, i was just looking at it after perusing Kerriodos's loot sheet. Even the lfr version at 16% could be absurdly powerful depending on the fight. And 2328 stam isn't to shabby either.

Way better than the absorb effect from the Lei Shen trinket with equivalent stamina

Fights are supposedly tuned without having that in mind, so if a certain fight demands cd sequences, you'd just end up waiting longer for them.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

Fights are supposedly tuned without having that in mind, so if a certain fight demands cd sequences, you'd just end up waiting longer for them.

That's true for GotAK, DS, BoP and maybe AD, but I'd argue we'll be using DP more ore less on cd while we're tanking as it'll have a base cd of only 30 sec in 5.4 so much less need to save it for specific boss abilities. Hard to say how we'll use wings.

Sry for derailing the thread a little

Daishan"I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it." -- Terry Pratchett

Perhaps it applies to GoAK and AD, though fights rarely align themselves to our cooldowns. I can certainly imagine situations where a reduction allows us to squeeze in an additional GoAK or AD at moments that are useful to us.

DS/BoP are actually abilities where it would shine. Both cause forebearance, so the absolute highest frequency we can use them is 1/minute.

However, to achieve DS/BoP every minute, your rotation will have to look something like: DS - BoP - External - DS - External - External - Repeat. This requires at least 2 other paladins in the raid, one of which is running Clemency, with almost all BoPs reserved for you.

A more likely rotation will be optimizing DS, so it will look something like: DS - BoP - DS - External - Repeat. This will reset stacks on average once per 1m 15s, rather than every minute, but only requires so much as a single other paladin without Clemency. Here the trinket would squeeze down on that 1m 15s, bringing it closer to 1m, and allowing us to reset our stacks more often.

It's obvious not many people have access to more than the odd FLex/normal on alts

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

Ruldar wrote:LFR only, most likely. Maybe some Flex if I can be bothered to look for an Openraid group and if SoO will be available cross-realm.

*points at the maintankadin SoO threats*

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.