Finally, even IF she introduces a bill, AND it passes the Senate, AND it makes it out of committee in the House, it still needs to pass the Republican held House before it makes it to the presidents desk. All of which is highly unlikely. Chances are, just like most crackpot bills, it will die a quick death in a Senate committee.

Not that Obamacare went this route, but I seem to recall lots of "ifs, ands, and buts" to reassure us that wasn't going to happen either .... and it DID. By hook or crook ... they'll keep trying to get it done and one of these day, they just might.

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posted on 11/09/2012 3:26:56 PM PST
by MissMagnolia
("It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains" - Patrick Henry)

Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts, Romney said. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.

When asked by a reporter if he supported the renewal of the federal assault weapons ban and if he had spoken to the senators about it, Governor Romney replied that it was not really his job to lobby on federal legislation, but that he shared Senator Kerrys and Senator Kennedys position on the issue!

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posted on 11/09/2012 3:27:54 PM PST
by ansel12
(Todd Akin was NOT the tea party candidate, Sarah Steelman was, Brunner had tea party support also.)

The only way this could happen is if the Repub lose control of the HR in 2014. I know there will be some alarm and price gouging before then, but we are probably safe until then. Of course, we must be vigilant that the weepy-one does not cave on this issue before then.

And to think, in 1962 Thomas J Dodd and Emaual Cellar proposed the first federal law on common firearms.

1962; “We don’t want to an your firearms, we ONLY want to register handguns! Rifles and shotguns will not be affeCted”.

1964: “We only want to register all your guns, not ban them! Only Army surplus guns will be banned.”

1968: “We only want to register your guns, and ban “Saturday Night Specials” and small foreign handguns along with army surplus rifles!” (They got the ban on 5 shot army surplus rifles and handguns and small foreign pistols)

1970: “We only want to ban Saturday night specials! large handguns and rifles will not be affected!” There was also a call at this time to ban all private possession of ALL GUNS.

1976: “We only want to ban all handguns! Long guns will not be affected!”

1981: “The NRA should give up their handguns, and they can keep their rifles!”- Lee Grant on GMA

1984: “We must ban “assault Rifles, unsuitable or hunting!”

1989: George Bush bans import of foreign made “assault rifles:.

1992: Assault rifle ban passed by Clinton.

2000: first calls to ban single shot .50 cal rifles...

and so it continues.

They lied to us in 1962.
They lied to us in 1964.
TheY lied to us in 1968.
They lied to us in 1970.
They lied to us in 1976.
They lied to us in 1981.

AND THEY ARE LYING TO US NOW!

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posted on 11/09/2012 3:57:51 PM PST
by Ruy Dias de Bivar
(The parasites now outnumber the producers.)

And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

Executive orders cannot countermand what is already in the US Code. You will not see “law # 300” is repealed by executive order.
If so attempted, we have all we need to impeach. Law is NOT made by the executive branch. War can be apparently.
Push comes to shove, House can refuse to initiate funding for any act created whole cloth.

What might be possible is a obamacare like “deemed to have passed”. In which case there will be armed insurrection fairly certain— for which the executive maoist is trying to develop a federal police force like an occupying army ignoring posse comitatus (since it isn’t the Army really!!).
This is of concern certainly.

The kenyan has already changed laws and chosen to not enforce laws. Congress has not objected to the practice. Some congressmen have objected to the particular uses of EOs but not to the EO i.e. fiat as a legitimate means of government. Who is going to impeach this guy? This Congress? Is this Senate going to convict him? That has all gone away. Congress is no longer a branch of government beyond formality. The Supreme Court can probably counted on to go along with anything Obama wants to do so long as he doesn't go too wild all at once, but then if he loses in the Court? What then? Mr. Roberts has made his Decision, now let him enforce it!

Much more important things are set to eventuate soon. The disassembly of our military and the total abandonment of nuclear weapons will come over the next couple of years. When we have no nukes and little Navy then Russia and/China will make their move. Should Russia nuke the remaining aircraft carrier nd one US Cith as an accompaniment to its demands for "international" occupation and operation of the USA what is a largely disarmed US populace going to do? Oh yes, disarming the civilian population will come soon. The Kenyan has already given the go ahead to the UN ambassador to call for the UN small arms treaty. Some will resist and die. Most privately held arms will be taken. This government is in command of a technology that makes hiding of arms or just about anything else nearly impossible. Occupiers will be in possession of all that, too.

The kenyan has already changed laws and chosen to not enforce laws. Congress has not objected to the practice. Some congressmen have objected to the particular uses of EOs but not to the EO i.e. fiat as a legitimate means of government. Who is going to impeach this guy? This Congress? Is this Senate going to convict him? That has all gone away. Congress is no longer a branch of government beyond formality. The Supreme Court can probably counted on to go along with anything Obama wants to do so long as he doesn't go too wild all at once, but then if he loses in the Court? What then? Mr. Roberts has made his Decision, now let him enforce it!

Much more important things are set to eventuate soon. The disassembly of our military and the total abandonment of nuclear weapons will come over the next couple of years. When we have no nukes and little Navy then Russia and/China will make their move. Should Russia nuke the remaining aircraft carrier and one US City as an accompaniment to its demands for "international" occupation and operation of the USA what is a largely disarmed US populace going to do? Oh yes, disarming the civilian population will come soon. The Kenyan has already given the go ahead to the UN ambassador to call for the UN small arms treaty. Some will resist and die. Most privately held arms will be taken. This government is in command of a technology that makes hiding of arms or just about anything else nearly impossible. Occupiers will be in possession of all that, too.

Should be interesting to see if all the 10 or so states that passed Firearms Freedom Acts (repudiates federal regulation of guns in intrastate trade) really meant it or if it was all for symbolism. A couple of those state laws even provide that it’s a state crime for a federal LEO to attempt to enforce within the state any of the federal laws so repudiated.

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posted on 11/09/2012 11:14:28 PM PST
by Still Thinking
(Freedom is NOT a loophole!)

Absolutely! Let the libs scream about it. They’ve already convinced everyone that conservatives are evil, even though the Republican establishment does its best to be namby-pamby appeasers, so let’s go for broke! It’s time people were exposed to some unvarnished truth for a change.

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posted on 11/10/2012 6:23:07 AM PST
by Pining_4_TX
( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)

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