Obama may not be talking publicly about Climate Change and has instead ordered the EPA to implement sweeping environmental controls that will do the same thing legislation would have done but through regulation.
The battleground has now moved to the EPA.

Reading the article in the Baltimore Sun is very much like reading excerpts from WUWT. I’d say you are doing a fine job of getting the message out. Please keep up the good work.
Bennett Dawson
Fairfield, VT

Climate zombies never die!
Also, Goldberg is a “right wing” syndicated columnist that the Baltimore Sun has picked up for some reason. I assure you that Baltimore is still bamboozled over climate change.

Who care about words, actions are what matters. EPA has stopped Shell from starting drilling off the coast of Alaska (leases they spent 2.2 billion on) because they didn’t account for the affect on air quality due to a coast guard ice breaker on a village of less than 300 located 70 miles away.
Who needs to make statements when your administration takes actions like that.

Don’t celebrate just yet. It started in the late 1970s, brewed in universities as the new future-best-thing in the 1980s (I was part of it), was honed then released to the gullible public in the 1990s, and spun full blast by the media, the politicians and the greens in the 2000s. Does anyone really think it’s going to go silent almost overnight?

derise: It’s worse than that. The EPA admitted that they weren’t sure that an ice breaker would even be needed, but that they felt that Shell should have accounted for that possibility in their filing. A 2.2 billion dollar investment scuttled because Shell forgot to account for one, maybe two icebreaker trips per year. Sheesh.
If it hadn’t been that, they would have invented some other excuse.

spector@12:37. Perhaps Americans are more educated! BTW have a look at how the survey was carried out. How did they get a representative “sample” from Sub-Saharan Africa when the questions were asked over the phone. The mind boggles. If you discount the Europeans, who have been conditioned over two centuries to doing what they are told, I don’t think that the opinion polls are all that favourable to the AGW hypotheses. Certainly here in Australia there is a marked drift away from its acceptance.

Spector says:
April 28, 2011 at 12:37 pm
“According to Gallup it would appear that most of the world is convinced that man is responsible for [adverse] climate change. For some strange reason, the US appears to be bucking the trend.”
While the US is always good at self-flaggelation, polarization and bemoaning its own fate, it’s also the incubator for practically every new idea, fashion or fad that is later imitated, exaggerated or parodied by everybody around the world. I guess you’re just ahead of the curve in the US as usual. The EU commission still peddles AGW. I give them 5 years from now to notice that the wind has changed. Well, they need 5 years for anything, as they operate with 5 year plans (not kidding, just google “EU 5 year plan” and you find them.)

It’s not easy being green (apologies to Kermit) when you’re more concerned about paying your mortgage and feeding your family.
Canadian support percentages are higher because we were fortunate to weather the last couple of years better than most, if we had not, I’m sure the support for the green movement would be a lot lower here too. We’re also more politically correct here and we don’t have as much vocal opposition to the whole thing. Most of the media is still supportive, but seemingly a little less so than previously. We’re also in an election (again) and 4 of the 5 major parties all are strong supporters, and even the Conservatives mouth the platitudes.
Next Monday we find out where we’re heading. I can hardly wait. 🙁

i think obama is losing favor as well….the online news articles on the birth cert issue that i’ve seen, the comments are running against him by a stunning margin….people getting tired of a would-be king who prefers to ignore congress and the courts and attempts to rule by decree instead…i’ll be so happy to see this admin run out of town in 2012 and obama a 1-term failure…genachowski and lisa jackson need to go to jail…

RE: Gallup–Worldwide, Blame for Climate Change Falls on Humans.
Of course, Gallup probably has a typical elite press viewpoint on this issue. In any case, I think the results are interesting as they appear indicate how pervasive this opinion has become worldwide. That does not alter reality, however.

The pendulum swings back, but in the case of AGW at no time in the past has there ever been such a huge number of people whose very livelihoods and fortunes been so dependent on the pendulum not swinging back.

I doubt if Obama would get re-elected on the promise of:
“Expanding bureaucracy and rules so as to increase US dependence on foreign oil”.
He is not stupid, just more wrong than right than most people, but he will figure out what to do with the greenies and the EPA eventually.
Sadly, I am not sure if that was sarc or not, nor can I define the term ‘eventually’ in this instance.

And as Alan says… to paraphrase It’s taken roughly 4 decades to get here, which is a generation and a bit.
When that pendulum swings back, it’s going to have some momentum about it. The sceptical camp is dominated by the right, of varying degrees.
We may not like how far that pendulum swings.

If I’ve got my US geography correct, Baltimore is right beside Washington. I’m guessing this is a paper locally delivered in Washington. A good thing.
Now we need someone to point out the gob-smacking idiocy of political parties attacking “High Energy Costs” while advocating carbon taxes.

Superman Renounces U.S. Citizenship in ‘Action Comics’ #900Truth, Justice, and the American way no longer cuts it. Superman doesn’t want his good deeds to be associated with the US, specifically the US government. He needs to have a more global perspective.
Thank you Obama, for making being identified as “American” wholly unfashionable.
1. Has Superman fixed global warming on his (DC universe) Earth? If not, why not?
2. Where’s Superman’s birth certificate? How’d he become a US citizen?
I wonder how the subsequent comics will turn out, when Superman has to cope with being on the “no fly” list, obtain visas before he enters the US… When the naked body scanners don’t work due to his alien physiology so he has to submit to a TSA “enhanced pat-down”…

@ Smokey on April 28, 2011 at 6:16 pm:
With a father like that, giving the kid a fresh new start on a completely different planet, far far away from the father, where no one has ever heard of the father, is the absolute best that father could do for the kid.
☺

It really doesnt not matter at all whether the public agree or not with the CAGW fraud, the sweeping changes will go ahead anyway regardless, they will just do it quietly with no fanfare, the bought off MSM will by and large keep quiet.
No debate and no discussion and no alternative? CAGW isnt real, it is and always was a political vehicle. CAGW was never meant to be anything other than a justification for socio political change and it doesnt matter whether we believe in that change or not. OK so the fabricated ‘science’ used as cover has been largely seen for what it is, a pack of made up lies but that does not and never really did matter.
The CAGW fraudsters knew from the get go that their vehicle could only get them so far but so far is al they needed, sure they could have done with a little more time but by and large the fraudsters believe they can now enact the changes they crave without the people being on board.
It all depends on whether the CAGW fraudsters can contrive to get a compliant bought off stooge picked for the 2012 Republican nomination, if they get one of theirs on board then its goodnight and good luck America. On the other hand if a true sceptic gets the nomination then the US and by extension the West may just stand a chance.

As if being linked to Sarah Palin by her statements and positions isn’t enough, any association with Jonah Goldberg should be viewed with, ahem, skepticism and caution. Goldberg never met a war of aggression or overthrow of a country not aligned with his particular world view that he didn’t like. He’s an internationalist in most areas and a warmonger in all. If he happens to be right about this particular issue it’s only because he can’t be wrong all the time – although he certainly tries.

I am naive. I am trying to remain optimistic; it is harder and harder to do.
During Bill Clinton’s administration I was deeply disappointed in America and disgusted by the constant encroachment of the Washington gangsters on reason and liberty. But at least it all was within some vague framework of the good old American fighting spirit. After all, taxpayers have been abused by governments since times immemorial. What’s new under the Moon?
No matter how wrong and despicable Bill Clinton is, he is still an American, he wasn’t trying to destroy and denigrate our country. I must admit, he actually strengthened its economy! He grew up here, he spent all his life as an American, he felt, in his own twisted way, what Americans want and hope for.
Not now. Time for words alone is over.
The green totalitarian thing is enveloping the whole world, and is about to swallow the United States — while the professed hater of everything traditionally American, the second-raters’ poster boy with Indonesian mentality who doesn’t understand and doesn’t want to understand America but does everything possible to undermine and weaken her, has taken the most powerful position in the world.
The flame of Liberty and Reason is dimming and flickering. Anthony Watts and many other people are heroically donating most of their lives to keep it going, to stall the creeping darkness. But aren’t we losing this battle?
More than 400 years ago, in his Sonnet LXII, Michelangelo exclaimed: “What the enlightening power of Truth is worth, if Falsehood is triumphant?” I am asking his question again now, in the 21st century.
We — all those who know that we are being enslaved again — must forget our differences and organize somehow. Resist now. If it’s not too late.

Spector @ April 28, 2011 at 12:37 pm
“According to Gallup it would appear that most of the world is convinced that man is responsible for [adverse] climate change.”
As others have noted and for the reasons I set out here, that Gallup poll is of dubious value. [Someone has pointed out that, when Gallup say they interviewed “approximately 1,000 adults … in 111 countries” that could mean 1,000 in each country. If so, that would invalidate my sample size criticism although not my other criticisms (language and access for example)]. But I doubt if it does means that – in my view, the poll is of dubious value.
But, assuming for a moment that it is accurate, despite desperate claims that “most of the world” is convinced of AGW, the results make dismal reading for the warmists. Not only is concern dropping sharply in the US (and the UK) but, even more significant in terms of climate change politics (remember Copenhagen?), the countries with least concern – well below the US’s 53% (down from 63%) – include Russia (41%), India (30%), South Africa (28%) and China (21%). Yes: 80% of Chinese are sceptics.

Pelicanman [April 28, 2011 at 10:04 pm] says:
“As if being linked to Sarah Palin by her statements and positions isn’t enough, …”

God forbid! Sarah and her pro-American Apple-Pie image, self-sufficient female posture, and self-defense pro-firearm position. Can’t have one of them rear its ugly head in modern politics can we? She just might offset those thousands of elitist stuffed shirt socialist girly men that dominate the body politic.

“… any association with Jonah Goldberg should be viewed with, ahem, skepticism and caution. Goldberg never met a war of aggression or overthrow of a country not aligned with his particular world view that he didn’t like.”

Well there must be dozens of examples of this for you to cite, correct? Or maybe you are one of those that equates one or two miltary actions with ‘never met a war of aggression or overthrow of a country’.

“… He’s an internationalist in most areas and a warmonger in all. If he happens to be right about this particular issue it’s only because he can’t be wrong all the time – although he certainly tries.”

Hmmmmm. I’m thinking something here. Getting the distinct feeling that you wanted to write something else, about Jews maybe? Oh I remember you last Memorial day ….

Pelicanman [May 31, 2010 at 11:28 pm] says:
“This is a great site, but despite possibly good motives this post is misplaced. The US military has been used as an instrument of conquest and subjugation for well over half a century. With over 170 bases outside the US proper it is projecting power and force, not protecting freedom. It is currently involved in two wars based on lies and evidence as false as Mann’s hockey stick cooked up by characters eager to get the might of this empire mired in wars for the racist, duplicitous, illegitimate and genocidal state if Israel. They are raining down bombs on Pakistan from consoles in suburban America via drones, and are looking for any pretext to spread the hot war to Pakistan.
While the courage and plight of the enlisted men is to be appreciated and admired, the contempt with which they are used by the empire that in no way represents its people is to be pitied.”[Reply: This is Memorial Day, originally known as Decoration Day. It began after the Civil War to honor and remember our soldiers, both North and South, who gave their lives in military service. It is not Politics Day. ~dbstealey, mod.]”

Out of respect for Anthony and his website I will self-snip what I really want to say to you.

Nick, Jack, Robert — I don’t think the pendulum has been swinging in one direction for the past 40 years. To the contrary, I think it’s swung back and forth several times over recent decades.
Consider that mid-century, industrialization unfettered by environmental regs was the dominant policy choice, blessed by the masses and promulgated by our leaders. Then the late-60s and 70s saw the pendulum swing towards regulation — CAA, CWA, SDWA, CERCLA, NEPA, EPA, ESA, solar panels on the white house … demanded by the masses (Earth Day) and promulgated by our leaders. Then in the 80’s, environmental causes again took a back seat … Carter-bashing was in vogue, industry-friendly measures were the rage, and Reagan deregulation ensured no toughening of various environmental standards. Things started to turn back in the late-80s with Hansen’s testimony, the CAA Amendments, the Montreal Protocol, an environmentalist VP and Kyoto. But by the late-90s, early-00s, then pendulum swung again >> the Senate unanimously rejected Kyoto, Gore was derided as “Ozone Al,” and Bush Jr. undid a remarkable amount of environmental regs. The pendulum swung back again with IPCC’s TAR, McCain-Warner-Lieberman sponsored cap-and-trade bills, the Bingaman resolution, An Inconvenient Truth, and outspoken concerned scientists. We’re now just at the point where the pendulum has swung back with skeptics’ book success, Climategate and the Himalayan glacier mistake, the rise of Fox and the success of sites like this, a renewed outspokeness by skeptics, the Tea Party, and anti-regulation fervor.
It’ll swing back … issues relating to climate, energy and the environment just don’tgo away.

Smokey says:
April 28, 2011 at 6:42 pm
Joe,
Whether Obama is a one term president or not depends on the caliber of his opponent. And speaking of headlines…

no, not really….last poll i heard said 46% of Americans will not vote for obama regardless the opponent….he has a record now and people are starting to catch on to what he’s all about (that is, himself)….

“… as green movement fizzles”, it says.
This is perhaps the greatest tragedy. Climate extremists colluding with bent “scientists” have exploited the public’s enthusiasm for protecting the environment to such a pitch of alarmist frenzy that we’re on the point of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. A backlash against greens is underway.
A few decades ago green awareness was considered the domain of a loony fringe. And then the public awoke to the need for noble intelligent actions such as pollution controls and the need to limit habitat loss. And then a bunch of Watermelons move in, dressing their antidevelopment agenda in clothes of apocalypticism.
I was tempted to say that the greatest losers are the green movement itself, having lost so much credibility with Joe Public, but in fact we’re all losers. Swingeing taxes to combat the nonexistent threat of Global Warming; many precious beauty spots defiled by ugly and unproductive windmills; western nations subsidising our industrial competitors in the noxious “Clean Development Mechanism”.
I dread to think how many endangered species will be lost because the green honeypot has already been grabbed – and squandered – by the wicked hoaxers on the Global Warming Gravy Train.

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