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Who was more moral? Jesus or Muhammad(PBUH)?

“The greatest jihad (struggle/striving) is to battle your own soul, to fight the evil within yourself.” Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) Matthew 7:12 Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

You claim .........There is nothing that can be more moral than the word of god ......... really ? 😂😂😂

“Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy; have no pity! Kill them all – old and young, girls and women and little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your task right here at the Temple.” So they began by killing the seventy leaders. “Defile the Temple!” the LORD commanded. “Fill its courtyards with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” So they went throughout the city and did as they were told.” (Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

I'm using your bible a book you've never read to demonstrate the morality of the god who's ass you kiss .

You object to the Old Testament ? The 10 commandments are from the ...... Old Testament 🙀 The Old Testament demonstrates gods morality going from immoral to moral and you see no problem there Christian ?

You mention ' context ' so there is a ' ' context ' where the slaughter of men women and children is ok ?

Oh here we go on your favourite hobby horse abortion , tell me Christian why do you love your god when he commands abortion in his name ?

You really need to read your bible Christian ....... Wait ! Maybe abortion is right if god commands it ?

You total idiotic fool! If what you spew were true, and God supported abortion, tell us all why you are so evil to also support it?

You are putting yourself above God, better than God, yet here you are SUPPORTING THE KILLING OF INNOCENT BABIES. God created mankind and can kill us. Who are you to support the killing of our most innocent?

You are a monsterous hypocrite!

I'm still waiting for a verse from the Christian new testament saying how God supports abortion. It actually says that God hates the sheeding of innocent blood. Even in the old testament God speaks to punishment for those who might accidentally cause a woman to lose her unborn chlld.

You know nothing of what you speak. You constantly take verses out of context, never explaining their reasoning.

It's obvious a knuckle dragging idiot like you has never read the bible no doubt your 'intellectual ' pursuits consist of playing the jug and assembling 5 piece jigsaws with your inbred brood of mutants .

My position on abortion you dishonest prick has always been it's a woman's choice and hers alone , bet you will forget this within six seconds like the prick you are .

Oh you only want the New Testament now ? Whys that because gods morality changed a tad from old to new so what happened before doesn't count ?

You sound like an SS officer defending Hitler 😂You really need to read your bible Christian ; out of context you say ? So you agree with abortion in the right context ?

Here's a little snippet of your aborting god in action you two faced dog .......courtesy of evil bible 👌😂

Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.” Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?

Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.

Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.” In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.

Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.

2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?

Infanticide:

1 Samuel 15:3 God commands the death of helpless “suckling” infants. This literally means that the children god killed were still nursing.

Psalms 137:9 Here god commands that infants should be “dashed upon the rocks”.

The murdering of children:

Leviticus 20:9 “For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him.”

Judges 11:30-40 Jephthah killed his young daughter (his only child) by burning her alive as a burnt sacrifice to the lord for he commanded it.

Psalms 137:8-9 Prayer/song of vengeance “0 daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.”

2 Kings 6:28-29 “And the king said unto her, What aileth thee? And she answered, This woman said unto me, Give thy son, that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow. So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son.”

Deuteronomy 21:18-21 “If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”

Judges 19:24-29 “Behold, here is my daughter a maiden, and his concubine; them I will bring out now, and humble ye them, and do with them what seemeth good unto you: but unto this man do not so vile a thing. But the men would not hearken to him: so the man took his concubine, and brought her forth unto them; and they knew her, and abused her all the night until the morning: and when the day began to spring, they let her go. Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man’s house where her lord was, till it was light. And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold. And he said unto her, Up, and let us be going. But none answered. Then the man took her up upon an ass, and the man rose up, and gat him unto his place. And when he was come into his house, he took a knife, and laid hold on his concubine, and divided her, together with her bones, into twelve pieces, and sent her into all the coasts of Israel.” To put it very bluntly this poor, young lady was murdered by her mate for being raped.

Exodus 12:29 God killed, intentionally, every first-born child of every family in Egypt, simply because he was upset at the Pharaoh. And god caused the Pharaoh’s actions in the first place. Since when is it appropriate to murder children for their ruler’s forced action?

Exodus 20:9-10 God commands death for cursing out ones parents Joshua 8 God commanded the deaths of 12,000 men, women, and children of Ai. They were all slain in the ambush that was planned by god.

2 Kings 2:23-24 The prophet Elisha, was being picked on by some young boys from the city because of his bald head. The prophet turned around and cursed them in the Lords name. Then, two female bears came out of the woods and killed forty-two of them. You would think that God could understand that sometimes the youthful make childish jokes. Calling someone “bald head” is far from being worthy of death.

1 Samuel 15:11-18 God repents of having made Saul king since Saul refused to carry out God’s commandments (i.e., Saul refused to murder all the innocent women and children.) At least god realizes what an immoral, murderous pig he is on this one.

I Kings 16:34 Laying the foundation for a city using your firstborn child and using your youngest son to set up the gates.

Isaiah 13:15-18 If God can find you, he will “thrust you through,” smash your children “to pieces” before your eyes, and rape your wife.

Jeremiah 11:22-23 God will kill the young men in war and starve their children to death.

Jeremiah 19:7-9 God will make parents eat their own children, and friends eat each other.

Lamentations 2:20-22 God gets angry and mercilessly torments and kills everyone, young and old. He even causes women to eat their children.

Thanks for spending al that time writing old testament verses out of context AS ALWAYS, verses that I did not read. I hope the next time, you spend days writing your insecure rantings from your hatred.

Incorrect. Jesus prays to the Father. A voice comes from the Father above Jesus. The Son and the Father are 2 seperate persons. Maybe you should at least learn the religion before embarrassing yourself.

I'll give you the general outline of how it always goes, so that we don't waste time doing this debate yet again.

I don't think you want to have the "evil OT God debate". I've destroyed every attempt multiple times. Atheists are bewildered once they find out what the Atheist apologetics sites leave out. Lying by ommission is still a lie.

Atheist: Oh dear, God genocided the Canaanites!

Bronto: Yeah? They were sacrificing children to Baal-zebub by cooking them alive.

Atheist:God condoned rape in Leviticus!

Bronto: In Leviticus he deals the death penalty to rapists in the verse before the one you quote mined.

Atheist: oh...

Bronto: Now go learn something about what you're talking about and come back. Off ya go.

Incorrect. Jesus prays to the Father. A voice comes from the Father above Jesus. The Son and the Father are 2 separate persons. Maybe you should at least learn the religion before embarrassing yourself.

Ok well that is a different take on the Bible then. There is not only one God but rather two, or three if you include the holy spirit. The Bible says we are all children of God - Jesus was just a Jew with a very close relationship to Our Father. In those two sentences you have just reduces Christianity to nothing more than a misguided Jewish sect.

It's like this. If you traveled through time and gathered up your five year old self, your 18 year old self, and your 40 year old self, you'd have 3 seperate persons who are all one in being. They'd act seperate from one another, yet all be a version of you. The five year old would be dependent on the forty year old you, but both are you. You would have knowledge at forty that the five year old you doesn't have. In this example, the Father is not human, and is God. Jesus is human, and is God in being. Jesus the human is dependent on God, the nonhuman. This is why Jesus is the final judge and not the Father. Jesus was tempted as we were. The Father isn't human, has never been tempted, thus is not the final judge.