re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by positionPosted by Baloo on 7/26/13 at 5:02 pm to CunningLinguist

Beltre is gonna get killed by the new era of 3rd basemen much like Trammel got killed by the new generation of shortstops who dominated the game after he retired. The baseline is going to change on him. Cabrera is putting together a Hall of Fame career, but Machado is just starting his career. David Wright is the best Mets player in generation. Ryan Zimmerman would have gone down as the best National ever if Harper didn't show up. Longoria is a star in Tampa. Clearly, not all of those guys are going to the Hall, but they are changing how we think of 3rd basemen. I think Beltre will have some serious trouble unless the Rangers win the World Series.

re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by positionPosted by tduecen on 7/26/13 at 5:07 pm to CunningLinguist

Belter would be the most interesting one here He has 368 home runs and 2300 hits along with several poor seasons in Seattle and 1 great season with Dodgers. He has been the best 3B (or one of) since his year with the Red Sox and since with Rangers. 34 years old so can he put up another couple of seasons like past few?

re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by positionPosted by emmanuellewis on 7/26/13 at 5:36 pm to OBUDan

quote:I've been on Beltre's sneaky hall campaign for a while.

+1. He is the guy no one talks about that I think has a great case. You never know when a guy will lose it but his numbers right now are impressive. Scott Rolen will not get in but will get support and Beltre's numbers are much better than his. Throw in that he is also a great defensive player and I think he'll get in. He is young enough to put up a few more good seasons and continue to accumulate stats. It is very likely he hits 400 hrs and 2500 hits even if he were to fall off a cliff (production wise, not literally) today.

re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by positionPosted by Vicks Kennel Club on 7/26/13 at 6:21 pm to OBUDan

Mauer gets on base as well as anyone. Just because he only one season with 28 and his second highest is 13 does not mean he is not HOF quality. It was looking a little shaky when he was injured a lot for a bit there, but he is a generational and should be up for consideration.

re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by positionPosted by mattz1122 on 7/26/13 at 6:36 pm to CunningLinguist

Does Utley have the longevity to get in? No doubt the best hitting 2B of this generation and he was great in the field. Great power and very efficient base stealer. From 2005 to 2009 he OPS'd .922. But he hasn't played more than 115 games since then and he has just 1300 career hits. No MVPs to help his cause.

re: SI article on current MLB players who could make HOF by positionPosted by lsu480 on 7/26/13 at 8:01 pm to GatorsGators

quote:That's because the Hall is for individual players and wins is a team stat.

Meh. For the vast majority of baseball history pitchers, at least starters, were judged on ERA, Ks and how many wins and losses they had. IMO HOF caliber starting pitchers should have a shitload of wins. Things have changed a little now that pitchers come out earlier but I still think a pitcher blaming a loss on his team is a cop out unless his team scores less than 2 runs. I guess I am old school but I like traditional stats better than this new crap!