IM Influence Over Elections in 2012?

I was looking around this likester website just now and had a question pop into my head...

How much of an impact do you think that Internet marketing (social media, SEO, etc...) could have on the US Presidential election in 2012?

The US news media can slander a candidate in a day and it will destroy their chances of getting elected. Likewise, they can give another candidate more attention than the rest and that person will pull forward in the runnings.

It will have absolutely no effect. Ron Paul is a perfect example of this. His online marketing is phenomenal and my rich right wing, Fox News eating, multi-million dollar business owning grandparents have never heard of him.

Funny stuff.

BTW, Ron Paul is fucking delusional, sexist and racist. Sorry. Him and his kid are both nutjobs.

It will have absolutely no effect. Ron Paul is a perfect example of this. His online marketing is phenomenal and my rich right wing, Fox News eating, multi-million dollar business owning grandparents have never heard of him.

Funny stuff.

BTW, Ron Paul is fucking delusional, sexist and racist. Sorry. Him and his kid are both nutjobs.

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wow... are you working for the secret service ?

First part is a call to NOT take action and the second is silly shit, read below. If the daughter or son tells their parents that they should vote for ron paul and show them why exactly they should vote for them, its highly likely that they will vote for ron paul, dispite of the media therapy.

you should really inform yourself about ron paul

before saying anything like that, because that statement above is just pure propaganda against him.

First part is a call to NOT take action and the second is silly shit, read below. If the daughter or son tells their parents that they should vote for ron paul and show them why exactly they should vote for them, its highly likely that they will vote for ron paul, dispite of the media therapy.

you should really inform yourself about ron paul

before saying anything like that, because that statement above is just pure propaganda against him.

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The guy calls characterizes his views as delusional, sexist, and racist, and knows that he has a kid in congress with similar views. Seems like he's pretty familiar with ron paul to me. Just because he came to different conclusions than you doesn't mean he's uninformed.

It will have absolutely no effect. Ron Paul is a perfect example of this. His online marketing is phenomenal and my rich right wing, Fox News eating, multi-million dollar business owning grandparents have never heard of him.

Funny stuff.

BTW, Ron Paul is fucking delusional, sexist and racist. Sorry. Him and his kid are both nutjobs.

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This guy is obviously talking out of his ass. If your grandparents havent heard of Ron Paul, perhaps your grandparents live out in the plains with no internet, television, or radio? Or perhaps they are dead? Whatever the reason is, it is irrelevant as it is highly unusual and not even worth talking about.

I think Ron Paul's internet marketing and entire viral campaign (it is largely word of mouth, lets keep in mind) is very effective. It must be, because he is an anti-establishment candidate nearly winning the popular support among Repubs. His internet marketing campaign is everything to him, in fact. Did Ron Paul reach critical mass in the 20 years he did this before the internet? No. The internet changed everything. It isnt controlled people. It isnt censored and made to sway your opinions and assumptions, like all other channels of information.

Back to this guy above me though, just another fucking idiot. Racist, sexist, and delusional for promoting peace, freedom from State imposed tyranny, personal responsibility; and delusional for being the only candidate in Congress to accurately predict the inevitable economic problems we were to face (not to mention the only Congress member perhaps ever to put his money where his mouth is in his private portfolio when he went ALL IN Gold Mining Stocks, and made a KILLING)

Meatro - Its going to be tough for you to make money in the future with a world view as warped as that. You need to consider all things equally, and logically come to a conclusion. You sound like a follower, not a leader.

First part is a call to NOT take action and the second is silly shit, read below. If the daughter or son tells their parents that they should vote for ron paul and show them why exactly they should vote for them, its highly likely that they will vote for ron paul, dispite of the media therapy.

you should really inform yourself about ron paul

before saying anything like that, because that statement above is just pure propaganda against him.

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I am not ignorant about who Ron Paul is. Perhaps you should eat your own words, but I'm not here to argue about politics as it's not allowed. (I will admit that the stuff he talks about ON THE CAMERA is very nice, it sounds great and it's perfectly tailored for young patriots... Now, go read his voting history. He is an extremist and will never get the primary, let alone the presidency.)

The guy calls characterizes his views as delusional, sexist, and racist, and knows that he has a kid in congress with similar views. Seems like he's pretty familiar with ron paul to me. Just because he came to different conclusions than you doesn't mean he's uninformed.

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No, hes uninformed because his conclusions are fucking stupid and based on blatantly false information. He must also give an incredible amount of credibility to people others tell him to listen to, as you cant arrive at these conclusions through critical thought and non-biased investigation.

I am not ignorant about who Ron Paul is. Perhaps you should eat your own words, but I'm not here to argue about politics as it's not allowed. (I will admit that the stuff he talks about ON THE CAMERA is very nice, it sounds great and it's perfectly tailored for young patriots... Now, go read his voting history. He is an extremist and will never get the primary, let alone the presidency.)

Kind of odd that you guessed my job on the first try, though. Now the question is, are YOU working for the Secret Service?

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Ok, see this is a person who arrived at different conclusions in a rational way. I respect this persons opinion. What he talks about on camera tends to be the same way he votes, so Im interested in hearing what you thing is "extreme" (anybody with a strong belief is considered an extremist, fyi...term is a stupider version of "terrorist").

You hit the problem right on the head - the media. That is the real problem. As long as people respect the media, they wont support Paul or freedom or peace of any sort. The media is owned by the same groups, companies, and people who funnel money from our pockets through the US Govt to theirs. They will never endorse an anti-establishment candidate, because they are the establishment.

This is why internet and internet marketing is Paul's only chance, as well as freedom's only chance. People are going over to Ron Paul because they are realizing the media is an incredulous dizzying propaganda machine. You dont go back to the media after realizing that. Now, the US Govt must lock down on the internet or see their control system fall apart and freedom gain hold (great for the people, horrible for corrupt governments)

Lemme know what you think, as well as what parts of voting record you thought were too extreme.

Will

P.S. - Only looking for a response for people who rationally came to a different conclusion than me on Ron Paul, not idiots that just believe what theyre told and follow the herd such as Meatro.

However ron paul is the best candidate that can provide a change!
Listen to him, what he says and listen what others say and think

Who are the alternatives ? Someone of the bush family ? They are all relatives anyway, even Obama and Bush are related.

You should not give up, just like that. Talk to your parents seriously and present the facts, also talk to people on the street while shopping etc.

Still I think if the right message is spreaded - like take action and show your near people more good stuff about ron paul and convince them by facts to vote him, he could be voted.

Btw: If I would work for the ss, I would never even mentioned it and would probably make propaganda for Jeb Bush.
But I'm a clear thinking human, knowing much more then the average human and want to make others see whats happening.

If Ron Paul doesn't gets elected this time, the new world order will be completly in place and 1984 becomes real. If this is what you want, do nothing, don't resist to get controlled by others, by government.
everything is ok... watch fox news... sleep... little sheep

whatever - see what happens - don't be surprised.

but if you want to be informed in what direction the whole new world order plan goes, type "aaron russo" in youtube and watch the interview.

However ron paul is the best candidate that can provide a change!
Listen to him, what he says and listen what others say and think

Who are the alternatives ? Someone of the bush family ? They are all relatives anyway, even Obama and Bush are related.

You should not give up, just like that. Talk to your parents seriously and present the facts, also talk to people on the street while shopping etc.

Still I think if the right message is spreaded - like take action and show your near people more good stuff about ron paul and convince them by facts to vote him, he could be voted.

Btw: If I would work for the ss, I would never even mentioned it and would probably make propaganda for Jeb Bush.
But I'm a clear thinking human, knowing much more then the average human and want to make others see whats happening.

If Ron Paul doesn't gets elected this time, the new world order will be completly in place and 1984 becomes real. If this is what you want, do nothing, don't resist to get controlled by others, by government.
everything is ok... watch fox news... sleep... little sheep

whatever - see what happens - don't be surprised.

but if you want to be informed in what direction the whole new world order plan goes, type "aaron russo" in youtube and watch the interview.

thats all

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First of all, I've been hearing about the NWO for too long. Remember when Bush was for sure going to declare martial law so that the 2008 elections would be called off? How about the Amero? The NAFTA superhighway? That was a big one, too. How about the Skull & Bones Society? oOoOo. Then the mandatory embedded RFID chips. I could go on and on about all this stuff that NEVER HAPPENED.

Second, why would I not give up on Ron Paul being president? I personally believe (sorry, BHW mods) that he would be a terrible decision for America. I told you before, he's crazy and I don't need to be educated on who he is or what he stands for. I'm well aware and have been for some years now. Convincing people based on facts would be a bad idea, because I'd have to present the fact that he's delusional then convince them he's the best. I may as well convince people to allow me to shoot them in the foot.

So once again, I think you should go read for yourself instead of attempting to educate me while in the process not really saying anything.

Go do the research yourself, read some of his newsletters that he's been publishing since the 1980s (and flip flopping his excuses about its contents and who actually authored it ever since the mid-90s. Funny that 'he doesn't flip flop on votes' but he can't seem to remember which of his statements are his and which ones are written by "somebody else.") If you need help finding them, just Google "ron paul is a racist" or "ron paul is an anti semite."

A statement from another site sums up Ron Paul perfectly for me, it's fun watching the debates. Why wouldn't you invite a kook? You know he's going to draw attention and go off the deep end sooner or later. It's like watching a hockey game for the fights.

But seriously, you're not going to convince me to support a racist, sexist, conspiracy theorist to run our country. Plus, you're assuming he will make the GOP candidate... Find a (R) that not only likes him enough to do that, but to vote for him. GLWT.

I could tell you the big facts in a big hit summary, but to get there and to understand the connections, it really takes a while.

As I know from experience, when we try to do that, it's like when someone trys to convince someone else to change his religion in matter of seconds.
Because many people watched and listened so many things over and over again trought the media and others, who watched and listened the same shit, said to them the same thing as well - so it MUST be true OR this is NEVER EVER true from what I've heared! ...NOT!

It took me years to understand whats going on in the world, but I think I can say now that I understand the world - of course not everything (never gonna happen) but I see the big picture and believe me, if you hear it the first time you will not understand it. Years ago I would not understand it either. But time after time you will see more and more clearly.

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