turso wrote:Saint doesn't glide as well as the river in my experience, but it's not far off. And yeah it certainly ain't a wind disc, unless it's tailwind as you specified.

Not a wind disc, no way, but there's a big difference between Opto and GL Saint. Tried the Saints of a friend (Opto and GL, both +172g). "Overstable Control Driver" was written on the stamp. That was true bs, but the Opto Saint was able to handle some headwind, the GL could not.

Funny, I'm very fond of the GL River and the GL Flow is my main distance driver. If I want to add a Latitude disc inbetween those two it's going to be an Opto Saint. (As for the distance it's just in the middle of a River and a Flow for me).

turso wrote:Saint doesn't glide as well as the river in my experience, but it's not far off. And yeah it certainly ain't a wind disc, unless it's tailwind as you specified.

Not a wind disc, no way, but there's a big difference between Opto and GL Saint. Tried the Saints of a friend (Opto and GL, both +172g). "Overstable Control Driver" was written on the stamp. That was true bs, but the Opto Saint was able to handle some headwind, the GL could not.

Funny, I'm very fond of the GL River and the GL Flow is my main distance driver. If I want to add a Latitude disc inbetween those two it's going to be an Opto Saint. (As for the distance it's just in the middle of a River and a Flow for me).

Wouldn't go as far as to say it's big, most Lat molds are bit more stable in Opto, my 168g GL is nearly identical in flight to my 175 and 176g Optos, but it's impossible to tell the true stability difference in such small quantities as these. I did try a nearly flat 175g GL one, and it was flipcity.

I don't throw 430' and we were not throwing distance but checking out the local course, so I was throwing on pretty low lines all the time. Also, there were just two Saints, one in both plastics, so can't say anything about the variance. Anyway, the Opto was just as Turso describes it. The GL was something else - even I was able to hyzerflip it in minor rearwind...

I haven't thrown the Timberwolf lately and not a lot at all with the Sain and so far i'm not too impressed with it. Both flip and have a relatively small fade with the Timberwolf being straighter early and late in the flight. From memory. Mind you my GL 167 Saint is 5 grams lighter than my Timberwolf. The Saint is faster. I cannot estimate distance now because things have changed after the last toss with the Twolf.

Flat shots need running on the center line of the tee and planting each step on the center line. Anhyzer needs running from rear right to front left with the plant step hitting the ground to the left of the line you're running on. Hyzer is the mirror of that.

Can one of you mods please change this stupid fucking thread title to "The Saint" or something equally as concise and descriptive? I must have just walked out of a locker room or just finished a marathon COD Black ops session when I created this topic...