I don't want to sound ungrateful, but your response is a bit pointless since I have already acknowledged those functions did not work. And the docs have no referenece to getting the size of the textflow object.

Thanks. Where exactly did you find that info. The measureText() is described by every object that uses it, but none of them mention what you are talking about.

There must be some way to access the sizes of a textFlow object after it has been created. Because if you use a TLF object and set the textFlow, then put it in a scrollable container, that container knows how much scrolling is necessary.