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Odakyu-sen

In my experience, I have found the meanest-minded people to be boss-hating workers, bureaucrats, administrators in large companies, in other words: people who keep the system running (without creativity) and who mindlessly complete their assigned tasks.

The most open-minded and generous people I have come across have been the innovators, entrepreneurs, self-employed and creator-bosses who have grown up a business from nothing.

I think this anti-business/anti-capitalism mindset is based on ignorance and petty jealousy.

You have to ask yourself: “Who creates the jobs.” Not the workers, not the administrators, but the business creators.

Albert_Ross

OK Jack5, you still haven’t got it. You are still under the impression that the only way in which private enterprise can provide any public benefit is by paying tax.

Your “businesses registered as charities and operating tax free” – even making the worst assumption that they have managed to hoodwink the regulator and aren’t really doing anything charitable at all – are still providing goods and services that people want, creating wealth for their owners, and employing people who can then use their earnings to buy things they want from people who want to sell it to them.

igm

Odakyu-sen: I think your above description is applicable to bureaucrats, especialy those in local body offices, where permits are required. They seem to be anti-commerce, or just plain envious of anyone who is not a parasite.

kowtow

blazeoflight

Typical straw man argument presented by Churchill with the aim of then feeding his target market with uplifting, although ultimately meaningless, rhetorical flourishes.

We see this a lot on the right wing. Unable to mount a logically consistent, evidence based case for their favoured point of view, they blur the lines with spurious factoids as a vehicle to allow themselves to appear brilliant thinkers.

Churchill was merely another in a long line of mediocre prime ministers whose reputation was saved by war. In Australia, Howard utilised war and fear mongering (Tampa) to win another couple of elections. In NZ, Key had the good fortune to encounter the Christchurch earthquakes.

And the Taxpayers Union? National Party front, dirty politics practitioners, and a bunch of hollow, privileged rich pricks kids struggling to grow up.

igm

blazeofcrap: Are you unemployable, a public servant, or just a typical left-wing envious loser with nothing, because you have done nothing and are not prepared to do anything, but expect everything. JK thrashed Clark fair and square on personality, policy, and ability, something lefties are devoid of.

waikatogirl

blazeolight
We see this a lot on the right wing. Unable to mount a logically consistent, evidence based case for their favoured point of view, they blur the lines with spurious factoids as a vehicle to allow themselves to appear brilliant thinkers.
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You are one of those of which Churchill spoke. Here’s another quote for you: “There are non so blind as those who will not see.”

The Bangles

When Churchill talked about those milking businesses, if he were here today, he would probably be referring especially without a doubt to the Greens. Sometimes the only way these people will understand anything, is when the business entrepreneur goes elsewhere to make more money, by paying less tax. Sad but true. Lets put it this way Helen Clark-labour made the top rate of tax go to 39%, if enough rich people left, she would see she would be losing money. If that’s what it was like with Helen Clark imagine what it would be like with the Greens having a majority.