"If you leave us in peace, we will do you no harm. If you wish to join us, we will set a chair at our table and work to our mutual benefit. If you work against us, we will have no choice but to retaliate."

Giving us distances removes the unnecessary stuff on the map, but doesn't help that much. We'll still get 7 very approximate points at best (if we stay by my current approach, that is). I have no further course.

Plotting end-to-end doesn't help. I tried for Adell and Pixelmage, and ended in 2 vastly different locations.

Going NNE and then NNW for the same distance on a round map somehow makes you end up at where you started. Geography is weird.

So far, I've managed to only trim my own lines. All the others that I've managed to plot so far didn't post updates with the distances, so I have to start over with the new points.

Screw This I'm Outta Here. Gotta sleep (again). This is frustrating as hell. Here is my Google Earth data, go on without me, make daddy proud.

Final thought: to pull this off without collateral damage, we need to find a globe soft that enables collaboration. Google maps allow this, but Google Earth doesn't. Maybe I'm asking for too much, but I just don't want to spend another whole day on this. I got stuff to do. Good night.I hate my life.

I have attempted to suppress my inner hyperspace future gardener crying out against all the injustice I am committing.

Pixelmage wrote:#MadMadMad thought from me. But I'm pissed off right now at this senseless map, so...

What if the compasses are actually formulae?

Let me illustrate: Assume Lat/Long values are 10/25 and my compasses are N N N S S S N.IF the compasses are operation codes for a formula, say, N means Double the Coordinates and S means Halve them.I would double the values 3 times, then halve them 3 times and lastly double them again end result being the target coordinates20/50.

He have a set of starting coordinates and bearing parameters to feed the function. We can also safely assume there's only 1 end point, therefore, If we can define the function that takes all that input and returns a single consistent point, he have our target.

It's math intensive as hell. And won't work if my theory is wrong. I have no idea what to make of the highlighted compass. And overall what I'm saying is to reverse-engineer the fucking source code without a clue as to how it works...

On the mapping front: reverse the bearing of the highlighted compass and plot it, and it alone. That's all I can think of after messing with the google map.

You may have something here-- and building on your ideas, I can suggest WHY they thought it was solvable before.Maybe whatever we're supposed to interpret the compass directions as should GIVE us, for each step, the number below that compass that's masquerading as a distance value.And as for the highlighted one-- well, it looks like they're all the longest distances. Maybe it's a checksum?Just a thought. Back to lurking, now.

What is 2047 miles west of Sydney? Almost has to be Perth, right? Let's check to see if the distance to Perth is the same for other people. On a great circle path, that is. If it is Perth, then we just have to figure out the connection between Perth and Peter Pan.

eyebones wrote:What is 2047 miles west of Sydney? Almost has to be Perth, right? Let's check to see if the distance to Perth is the same for other people. On a great circle path, that is. If it is Perth, then we just have to figure out the connection between Perth and Peter Pan.

Looks ~right for Victin's co-ords.

Well then, I'm no longer of help if it means I need to go to Perth. Which I obviously don't.

First of all, the compasses work as one would expect. This is to say that each one points to a specific (and different) point on the earth. With some fiddling (and then some educated guesses after I spotted the pattern), I was able to find the location each points to within a range of 0 to 3 miles. So here are the coordinates each compass points to, plus a nearby landmark:

And what do these places have in common? Well, according to Wikipedia's entry on Peter Pan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pan), each of these cities has one of the seven Peter Pan statues made from the mould of the Kensington Gardens one. This is too perfect for it to be a coincidence and it also relates to the "silent music" riddle. The question is now what are we supposed to do with these statues? Furthermore, why is the Perth one in gold? Is it more significant than the rest? Hope this helped!

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First of all, the compasses work as one would expect. This is to say that each one points to a specific (and different) point on the earth. With some fiddling (and then some educated guesses after I spotted the pattern), I was able to find the location each points to within a range of 0 to 3 miles. So here are the coordinates each compass points to, plus a nearby landmark:

And what do these places have in common? Well, according to Wikipedia's entry on Peter Pan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pan), each of these cities has one of the seven Peter Pan statues made from the mould of the Kensington Gardens one. This is too perfect for it to be a coincidence and it also relates to the "silent music" riddle. The question is now what are we supposed to do with these statues? Furthermore, why is the Perth one in gold? Is it more significant than the rest? Hope this helped!

So none of us have really talked about getting these letters as far as I know, but what I do know is one is relatively close to me (Johnson Park, about an hour and half drive). While I can't go for the next few days, sometime around next week I should be able to make the drive over and retrieve the letter found at the statue. I just need to get my gps working first and find some free time. I'll keep you guys posted (unless one of you graps a letter before me)

Edit: Wait, is it a physical letter or a "layar" thing? Cause I don't have a smart phone :< If it's smart phone related I might be SOL

If you ever need to ask the questions "Am I needed? Should I help them?" The answer is always yes. Always.

Adell, there's a thread on this in the echo forum.The letter requires smartphone. (Maybe you could drag a friend?)Zup's going to try for the one near him this weekend.If he can't get it, I'm going to try for the one near me on Tuesday.If I can't get it, would you be able to go for yours?

Why are we even arguing about a dead fictional dude and hypothetical ninjas?

Adell wrote:So none of us have really talked about getting these letters as far as I know, but what I do know is one is relatively close to me (Johnson Park, about an hour and half drive). While I can't go for the next few days, sometime around next week I should be able to make the drive over and retrieve the letter found at the statue. I just need to get my gps working first and find some free time. I'll keep you guys posted (unless one of you graps a letter before me)

Edit: Wait, is it a physical letter or a "layar" thing? Cause I don't have a smart phone :< If it's smart phone related I might be SOL

Qara-Xuan Zenith wrote:Adell, there's a thread on this in the echo forum.The letter requires smartphone. (Maybe you could drag a friend?)Zup's going to try for the one near him this weekend.If he can't get it, I'm going to try for the one near me on Tuesday.If I can't get it, would you be able to go for yours?

I'm asking my friends now, depending on answers I could go as early as today or tomorrow.

If you ever need to ask the questions "Am I needed? Should I help them?" The answer is always yes. Always.