In 1984 Sony Sold two of it's brand new space age PCM Digital tape recorders in the US. One was owned by Frank Zappa. The other was ownd by ….you get two guesses.

And The Answer is !........Nile Rodgers. This story "word for word" was in this month's MOJO Magazine. This quote is from INTERVIEW Magazine November 6, 2013. I guess Nile tells that story often, or the Mojo interviewer was lazy. You decide.

EHRLICH: You crossed paths with Sinatra again later, right?

RODGERS: Quincy Jones was producing a record for him, and Quincy had decided that he wanted to take a leap into the digital age and record on a Sony digital tape recorder. At that time, the only two people in America who owned them were Frank Zappa and myself. They asked Frank Zappa, who was closer to them in L.A., and I guess Zappa said no, so they asked me. I said, “Absolutely.” So they came and recorded on my tape recorder, and I’m standing in the room—I’m sure that Mr. Sinatra thought I was an assistant engineer or something. So I said, “Mr. Sinatra, I don’t know if you remember me, but I’m Pud.” And he looked at me and went, “Wow, Pud. What are you doing here?” I said, “Well, the tape recorder you’re using—that’s my tape recorder.” And he says, “What do you mean that’s your tape recorder?” I said, “I’m the biggest record producer in the world.” And Mr. Sinatra said, “I thought Quincy was the biggest record producer in the world.” And I went, “No. That was last year.” [laughs]

In 1984 Sony Sold two of it's brand new space age PCM Digital tape recorders in the US. One was owned by Frank Zappa. The other was ownd by ….you get two guesses.

And The Answer is !........Nile Rodgers. This story "word for word" was in this month's MOJO Magazine. This quote is from INTERVIEW Magazine November 6, 2013. I guess Nile tells that story often, or the Mojo interviewer was lazy. You decide.

EHRLICH: You crossed paths with Sinatra again later, right?

RODGERS: Quincy Jones was producing a record for him, and Quincy had decided that he wanted to take a leap into the digital age and record on a Sony digital tape recorder. At that time, the only two people in America who owned them were Frank Zappa and myself. They asked Frank Zappa, who was closer to them in L.A., and I guess Zappa said no, so they asked me. I said, “Absolutely.” So they came and recorded on my tape recorder, and I’m standing in the room—I’m sure that Mr. Sinatra thought I was an assistant engineer or something. So I said, “Mr. Sinatra, I don’t know if you remember me, but I’m Pud.” And he looked at me and went, “Wow, Pud. What are you doing here?” I said, “Well, the tape recorder you’re using—that’s my tape recorder.” And he says, “What do you mean that’s your tape recorder?” I said, “I’m the biggest record producer in the world.” And Mr. Sinatra said, “I thought Quincy was the biggest record producer in the world.” And I went, “No. That was last year.” [laughs]

In 1984 Sony Sold two of it's brand new space age PCM Digital tape recorders in the US. One was owned by Frank Zappa. The other was ownd by ….you get two guesses.

And The Answer is !........Nile Rodgers. This story "word for word" was in this month's MOJO Magazine. This quote is from INTERVIEW Magazine November 6, 2013. I guess Nile tells that story often, or the Mojo interviewer was lazy. You decide.

EHRLICH: You crossed paths with Sinatra again later, right?

RODGERS: Quincy Jones was producing a record for him, and Quincy had decided that he wanted to take a leap into the digital age and record on a Sony digital tape recorder. At that time, the only two people in America who owned them were Frank Zappa and myself. They asked Frank Zappa, who was closer to them in L.A., and I guess Zappa said no, so they asked me. I said, “Absolutely.” So they came and recorded on my tape recorder, and I’m standing in the room—I’m sure that Mr. Sinatra thought I was an assistant engineer or something. So I said, “Mr. Sinatra, I don’t know if you remember me, but I’m Pud.” And he looked at me and went, “Wow, Pud. What are you doing here?” I said, “Well, the tape recorder you’re using—that’s my tape recorder.” And he says, “What do you mean that’s your tape recorder?” I said, “I’m the biggest record producer in the world.” And Mr. Sinatra said, “I thought Quincy was the biggest record producer in the world.” And I went, “No. That was last year.” [laughs]

QUESTION: I know for many years the Democrats have been represented with the symbol of a donkey, and the Republicans an elephant. What is the history behind these choices, and were they made at the same time? Did each group choose its own animal and promote it, or was it something that became common from press coverage, like the colors red and blue?

The donkey came first. When Andrew Jackson, who was a little rough around the edges, ran for president, his foes attempted to portray him as a donkey. Jackson actually decided he kind of liked the comparison, since donkeys are tough and hardworking and so forth. So he appropriated it (in much the same way that the generation immediately before him appropriated the originally defamatory "Yankee Doodle"). And after Jackson, every Democrat for generations claimed to be an incarnation of him, so they all embraced the donkey, too.

The elephant became the GOP counterpart thanks to the work of one man (and, really, one cartoon by that man). That man is Thomas Nast, the legendary political cartoonist of the Gilded Age, and someone who has a strong case as the most influential American artist of all time. His drawings, published in Harper's Weekly and other publications, shaped elections for decades. Here's the 1874 cartoon where he created the Republican elephant:

The notion stuck very fast, and it's been the elephant and the donkey ever since. Though it should be noted that local branches of the parties sometimes had their own animal symbol. In Louisiana, for example, the Democrats were associated with a rooster for many years, and in New York (particularly NYC) it was a tiger.

Incidentally, Nast is also known for "creating" another famous character. Here is that drawing:

Santa predates Nast by a fair bit (500-1500 years, depending on your interpretation), but he didn't really begin to get popular in America until the latter part of the 19th century. So it was up to Nast to determine the "look" of Mr. Claus, with the rosy cheeks and beard and red suit and black belt.

good point... because galoot and i really were getting waaaay too useful in the knowledge department.not only that, don't you have me on ignore? (don't answer that one - if you do),and not only that^ that, you should probably put galoot on ignore (too?).

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