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Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

With the amount of good to very good point guards there are in this league, I'm still struggling to find a reason as to why we gave Hill the amount we did. 6'3" combo guards are a dime a dozen, and in no way is Hill elite at his position.

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Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

You do have the give the Nets credit: they played an amazing fourth quarter. Deron broke Hill down on every pick and roll. Their bigs attacked the glass, and Lopez hit shots that Roy couldn't and West wasn't getting open for. They adjusted, we got frustrated, and they killed us. Tough loss to take at the moment, but a reasonable one with perspective. Hope Lance isn't too banged up.

Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

Oh well. I didn't expect us to win this game anyway. The Nets are a good team without Avery and they are on a roll. I would expect a win if the game was at home but since it was a road game I didn't.

Simply put, it's not easy to beat playoff teams without your best player on the road.

We still need Danny. Games like those are the proof that we do, in case anyone doubted it.

Anyway, I'm proud about the effort of our guys. They played a great game for 3 quarters. A combination of running out of fumes and thus not being able to hit shots and having foul trouble and thus not being able to play proper D costed us the game. Their crowd was a big part of it, too.

Let's take care of business in Charlotte and hope for a win in Orlando. We need to regather.

Also, let's hope that Lance will be able to play. We need him.

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Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

With the amount of good to very good point guards there are in this league, I'm still struggling to find a reason as to why we gave Hill the amount we did. 6'3" combo guards are a dime a dozen, and in no way is Hill elite at his position.

Elite? No, but we would not be able to pay for an elite point with what we are paying other players. I think a healthy Hill might be our best option

Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

With the amount of good to very good point guards there are in this league, I'm still struggling to find a reason as to why we gave Hill the amount we did. 6'3" combo guards are a dime a dozen, and in no way is Hill elite at his position.

He's pretty good all around, has playoff and leadership experience from his Spurs days, has proven to be capable of taking and making game winning shots, among other things. He's not a 20 ppg scorer, he gets hurt a little too often and he's not a playmaker. He's not getting elite money, he's getting "good young veteran" money, which is what he is.

Anyway, I didn't watch the game, what happened to Lance? Brooklyn's been playing well so there's no shame in losing to them.

Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

Elite? No, but we would not be able to pay for an elite point with what we are paying other players. I think a healthy Hill might be our best option

Point is you can find options at the point guard position just as good as Hill for half the cost. That money would have or could have been better spent or saved elsewhere. Bigs are at a premium, combo guards are not.

Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

You do have the give the Nets credit: they played an amazing fourth quarter. Deron broke Hill down on every pick and roll. Their bigs attacked the glass, and Lopez hit shots that Roy couldn't and West wasn't getting open for.

It's true that you have give the Nets credit. They executed perfectly. Their crowd helped a lot.

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Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

Point is you can find options at the point guard position just as good as Hill for half the cost. That money would have or could have been better spent or saved elsewhere. Bigs are at a premium, combo guards are not.

name players not on rookie deals that're as good as Hill that cost 4 million a year

Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

This was terrible officiating in my opinion. 31-12 FTA. Thats the game right there. PG couldn't even get a call. They gave the Nets a ton of ticky tack foul calls. Hard to win a game when the officials call a game like this. Our own misses in the 4th made it impossible.

Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

You do have the give the Nets credit: they played an amazing fourth quarter. Deron broke Hill down on every pick and roll. Their bigs attacked the glass, and Lopez hit shots that Roy couldn't and West wasn't getting open for. They adjusted, we got frustrated, and they killed us. Tough loss to take at the moment, but a reasonable one with perspective. Hope Lance isn't too banged up.

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Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

Only 5 games separate 1st from 8th place in East.
These next two games are big since we are the favorites and we just can't afford to lose those.
Here's hoping we have everyone (besides Danny) at 100% by Tuesday.

Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

Seemingly half the team has the flu, back end of a b2b and it still takes almost perfect quarter and craptastic reffing for Brooklyn to beat us. Can't blame the team for the loss.

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Re: Pacers/Nets Postgame Thread 1/13/13

Point is you can find options at the point guard position just as good as Hill for half the cost. That money would have or could have been better spent or saved elsewhere. Bigs are at a premium, combo guards are not.

Like who? Name the available 15 ppg/ 5 apg / 4 rpg guards you would have preferred the Pacers go after this past offseason, and don't say Darren Collison. Let's hear three of them.