Government is not a mechanism to Prosperity [b]Our constitutional ignorance -- perhaps contempt, coupled with the fact that we've become a nation of wimps, sissies and supplicants -- has made us easy prey for Washington's tyrannical forces[/b]

Carla Redick Communication director at the BOE says no at this time but should a chang occur there will be a posting on the BOE web site and conservative Jr will be prepped for civil disobedience.cw

Government is not a mechanism to Prosperity [b]Our constitutional ignorance -- perhaps contempt, coupled with the fact that we've become a nation of wimps, sissies and supplicants -- has made us easy prey for Washington's tyrannical forces[/b]

"The President will challenge students to work hard, set educational goals, and take responsibility for their learning. He will also call for a shared responsibility and commitment on the part of students, parents and educators to ensure that every child in every school receives the best education possible so they can compete in the global economy for good jobs and live rewarding and productive lives as American citizens."

As if that wasn't enough, as I told you the federal Department of Education has put together a worksheet for teachers across America so that they can properly prepare their students for the President's speech. There are some little gems in this worksheet that could be troublesome. Pretty much what you would expect, though, from government.

An example: In the teacher's worksheet the teacher is urged to discuss with the students the following questions:

•What do you think the president wants us to do?•Does the speech make you want to do anything?•Are we able to do what President Obama is asking of us?•What would you like to tell the president?

[b]Well .. how about a few more questions from the Talkmaster:[/b]

[b]•What are the constitutional limits on this president's power?•Is the president asking us to do things that are really outside of his designated powers?•SHOULD we do what President Obama is asking of us? •Do you feel the president was talking to you, or with you?[/b]

Government is not a mechanism to Prosperity [b]Our constitutional ignorance -- perhaps contempt, coupled with the fact that we've become a nation of wimps, sissies and supplicants -- has made us easy prey for Washington's tyrannical forces[/b]

Or in 1989?[quote]President Bush pleaded with young people around the nation today to stop using drugs and ''not to look the other way'' when others do. In a 15-minute nationally televised plea from the White House library, the President presented the latest round of an anti-drug campaign that began a week ago with another nationally broadcast message announcing a $7.9 billion package.[/quote]http://www.nytimes.com/1989/09/13/us/bush-urges-youngsters-to-help-frien...

The chairman of the Florida Republican Party is condemning Obama's speech as an attempt to "indoctrinate America's children to his socialist agenda."

"The idea that school children across our nation will be forced to watch the President justify his plans for government-run health care, banks, and automobile companies, increasing taxes on those who create jobs, and racking up more debt than any other President, is not only infuriating, but goes against beliefs of the majority of Americans, [b]while bypassing American parents through an invasive abuse of power,"[/b] Chairman Jim Greer said in a press release.

Added conservative talk show host Tammy Bruce, in a Twitter feed:[b]"Make September 8 Parentally Approved Skip Day. You are your child's moral tutor, not that shady lawyer from Chicago."[/b] :)

Government is not a mechanism to Prosperity [b]Our constitutional ignorance -- perhaps contempt, coupled with the fact that we've become a nation of wimps, sissies and supplicants -- has made us easy prey for Washington's tyrannical forces[/b]

[quote author=Floyd Z link=topic=31361.msg409716#msg409716 date=1251902860]"[You] guys make me miss the John Birch Society. At least so far as I know, they never thought the President's Council on Physical Fitness was an attempt to create a new Aryan Youth." ~ Roy E.[/quote]

How come you don't have a picture of President Obama or Van Jones or Rev Wright or Teddy Kennedy etc as your screen sign? It is okay with us if you want to pretend to be someone else as we apparntly had a president elected who did the same thing?

You and I and all are free and have freedom because American soldiers have died for this freedom and because we have a constitution. So it is cool if pretention and mock conservatism with extraneous exxagerations rather than actual debate is your preferance.

If you have any debate material please offer it up. I would like to understand why someone choosing socialists and communists as advisors is good for our country. It is simplistic to try to use disinformation. Telling the truth about why a person could have as a close mentor for 20 years someone who could say from a pulpit "GD America" and emanate a perceivable hatred of whites and yet claim to be ignorant of all this?

If his goals are to form a country akin to Hitler's national socialistic party's Germany, then he should just say so?

Hitler snuck into office, he got a majority in the german parliment, he stomped out debate, he siezed the media, grabbed the courts, and he brainwashed kids, and this is different how? I sincerely hope the media starts doing its job and simply finds the truth. Whatever it is.

[quote author=PWpauper link=topic=31361.msg410686#msg410686 date=1252018438] If his goals are to form a country akin to Hitler's national socialistic party's Germany, then he should just say so? [/quote] Absolutely. I agree 100%. No, make that 1000%.

[quote author=PWpauper link=topic=31361.msg410686#msg410686 date=1252018438]Hitler snuck into office, he got a majority in the german parliment, he stomped out debate, he siezed the media, grabbed the courts, and he brainwashed kids, and this is different how? [/quote]

It's EXACTLY THE SAME!!!!

Obama snuck into office (with 365 electoral votes), he got a majority in the House and Senate, he stomped out debate, he siezed the media (including Fox News), grabbed the courts (by nominating one SCOTUS justice), and he brainwashed kids!!!

tuna, This is the same way Hitler started his indoctrination. you don't think he came right out and said, "We are going to murder millions of Jews."

After the indoctrination video, teachers are being instructed to hand out lesson plans that will have students writing letters to themselves about what they can do to help obama get his agenda approved .

[quote author=hoptoit link=topic=31361.msg410786#msg410786 date=1252028826]tuna, This is the same way Hitler started his indoctrination. you don't think he came right out and said, "We are going to murder millions of Jews."

After the indoctrination video, teachers are being instructed to hand out lesson plans that will have students writing letters to themselves about what they can do to help obama get his agenda approved .

I imagine you're referring to this?[quote]Write letters to themselves about how they can achieve their short‐term and long‐term education goals. [/quote]

Or this?[quote]Posters could be formatted in quadrants, puzzle pieces, or trails marked with the following labels: personal, academic, community, and country. Each area could be labeled with three steps for achieving goals in that area.[/quote]

WOW!! OMG!!! Sounds HORRIBLY SINISTER doesn't it ??

I can't believe I'm here arguing with the insane.

For God's sake, man, get a hobby, or something. Something peaceful to occupy your mind. Because if you want to see REAL "indoctrination" at work, just look at your own TV set, and listen to your own radio.

Nothing but run around from the BOE. Ever office that should "know" has phone failure.The Supers office is saying oh no and attempts to refer to the Curriculum director who's line failsand then Carla Reddick's (the communications director) line fails.

May Howard still acts clueless but did show the inauguration.Since the BOE seems clue less it will be an extra long weekend.

I do not like the cult of personalty being pushed upon my kids or anyone's. it would be one thing to air a broad cast at night so parents could watch and correct as necessary, but it is not.

cw

Government is not a mechanism to Prosperity [b]Our constitutional ignorance -- perhaps contempt, coupled with the fact that we've become a nation of wimps, sissies and supplicants -- has made us easy prey for Washington's tyrannical forces[/b]

Please let me know if you are planning to participate in the President’s broadcast to Public Schools on Tuesday the 8th. I need to know to make our plans for the weekend. I will take a “not sure” as a yes. You may reply here.

Thank you,

cw

Government is not a mechanism to Prosperity [b]Our constitutional ignorance -- perhaps contempt, coupled with the fact that we've become a nation of wimps, sissies and supplicants -- has made us easy prey for Washington's tyrannical forces[/b]

Government is not a mechanism to Prosperity [b]Our constitutional ignorance -- perhaps contempt, coupled with the fact that we've become a nation of wimps, sissies and supplicants -- has made us easy prey for Washington's tyrannical forces[/b]

Government is not a mechanism to Prosperity [b]Our constitutional ignorance -- perhaps contempt, coupled with the fact that we've become a nation of wimps, sissies and supplicants -- has made us easy prey for Washington's tyrannical forces[/b]

I'll let you know as wed when they return I'll meet her and the "band teacher" as the boy got the boot the first day.

cw

Government is not a mechanism to Prosperity [b]Our constitutional ignorance -- perhaps contempt, coupled with the fact that we've become a nation of wimps, sissies and supplicants -- has made us easy prey for Washington's tyrannical forces[/b]

[quote author=Floyd Z link=topic=31361.msg411421#msg411421 date=1252106828]OH PLEASE GOD!! For the sake of the children!!!!!! Don't let them hear Obama sayto study hard and stay in school! [/quote]He would have to say in in eubonics for them to understand him...

[quote author=SONA link=topic=31361.msg411446#msg411446 date=1252107498][quote author=Floyd Z link=topic=31361.msg411421#msg411421 date=1252106828]OH PLEASE GOD!! For the sake of the children!!!!!! Don't let them hear Obama sayto study hard and stay in school! [/quote]He would have to say in in eubonics for them to understand him...[/quote]

I think Patuuk, seaweaver, PWpauper, and Door would resent you saying that about their children.

[quote author=Floyd Z link=topic=31361.msg411461#msg411461 date=1252107760][quote author=SONA link=topic=31361.msg411446#msg411446 date=1252107498][quote author=Floyd Z link=topic=31361.msg411421#msg411421 date=1252106828]OH PLEASE GOD!! For the sake of the children!!!!!! Don't let them hear Obama sayto study hard and stay in school! [/quote]He would have to say in in eubonics for them to understand him...[/quote]

I think Patuuk, seaweaver, PWpauper, and Door would resent you saying that about their children.[/quote]I know those guys. None of their kids speak your language...

I think Patuuk, seaweaver, PWpauper, and Door would resent you saying that about their children.[/quote]I know those guys. None of their kids speak your language...[/quote]

Yeah, nothing like a circle jerk to get to know a guy.[/quote]I bet you wish you were the guy in the middle of one. If you go to Atlanta I am sure that some group up there could satisfy your fantasies of kneeling in the middle. The rest of us will stick to beating up on you here on the forums...

[quote author=hoptoit link=topic=31361.msg410786#msg410786 date=1252028826]tuna, This is the same way Hitler started his indoctrination. you don't think he came right out and said, "We are going to murder millions of Jews."..........[/quote]

Um, Hoppy, there was this book written while Hitler was in prison... People elected him anyway.

Government is not a mechanism to Prosperity [b]Our constitutional ignorance -- perhaps contempt, coupled with the fact that we've become a nation of wimps, sissies and supplicants -- has made us easy prey for Washington's tyrannical forces[/b]

I suppose your daughter raised in the light of your....brilliance would have her antennae tuned for Amabo. Perhaps the two of you can hold hands during the programing. Gramsci would be pleased. You need no prescribed White House tutorial planner...just chant softly "what can we do for the president"

yessssss catch them young.

"This is my fourth visit to Venezuela, each time at the invitation of my comrade and friend Luis Bonilla, a brilliant educator and inspiring fighter for justice. Luis has taught me a great deal about the Bolivarian Revolution and about the profound educational reforms underway here in Venezuela under the leadership of President [Hugo] Chavez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution, and I've come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both the Venezuelan and the international struggle -- I look forward to seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and deeply humane."

Amabo Friend and confidant, Bill Ayers

cw

Government is not a mechanism to Prosperity [b]Our constitutional ignorance -- perhaps contempt, coupled with the fact that we've become a nation of wimps, sissies and supplicants -- has made us easy prey for Washington's tyrannical forces[/b]

I suppose your daughter raised in the light of your....brilliance would have her antennae tuned for Amabo. Perhaps the two of you can hold hands during the programing. Gramsci would be pleased. You need no prescribed White House tutorial planner...just chant softly "what can we do for the president"

yessssss catch them young.

"This is my fourth visit to Venezuela, each time at the invitation of my comrade and friend Luis Bonilla, a brilliant educator and inspiring fighter for justice. Luis has taught me a great deal about the Bolivarian Revolution and about the profound educational reforms underway here in Venezuela under the leadership of President [Hugo] Chavez. We share the belief that education is the motor-force of revolution, and I've come to appreciate Luis as a major asset in both the Venezuelan and the international struggle -- I look forward to seeing how he and all of you continue to overcome the failings of capitalist education as you seek to create something truly new and deeply humane."

Amabo Friend and confidant, Bill Ayers

cw

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Oh, @$$hole, you are wrong again. I raised my child to listen respectfully to ALL sides of an argument and to not @$$ume. I never pulled her out of classes when the Shrub was the subject and I am not going to pull her because Obama is now the subject. She is there for SCHOOL and keeping her out is counterproductive to developing critical thinking skills (how much school did [b]YOU[/b] miss, by the way?). She will be at school and I will be at my job (you do know what a real job is, right?).

I suppose YOU with your alleged...brilliance are training your children to be the next Limbaugh and Coulter, right? Or maybe the next McVeigh and Nichols.

BTW, Ayers is NOT involved in this administration. So why keep tossing that herring into the pile?

Yes Jane we carry nothing from those who raise us.........All yours and mine are efforts for naught......Yours to make your girl temporate and mine to crate a TV(nice!)....and A socialist mother, and black nationalist father, a communist surrogate father and a terrorist political teacher...

as were Amabos.....

for naught.

sure.

cw

Government is not a mechanism to Prosperity [b]Our constitutional ignorance -- perhaps contempt, coupled with the fact that we've become a nation of wimps, sissies and supplicants -- has made us easy prey for Washington's tyrannical forces[/b]