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KalvaChomer

Get a copy of "MaGruder's American Government" Einstein and you will learn that it was by design. It was part and parcel of the Founder's implementation of federalism. Without it there would have been no Union !

KalvaChomer

A Google search turns up wildly varying figures - from the World Bank "In 2011, China’s gross national income per capita of $4,940 ranked 114th in the world; and over 170 million people still live below the $1.25-a-day international poverty line." From Forbes - "The average annual household income in China, converted to dollars, was $10,220, compared with $84,300 in the United States (the median US income is $47,300.)" From a Chinese news source - "Also in 2011, the per capita disposal income for Chinese urban dwellers rose by 14.1 percent to 21,810 yuan (3,493 U.S. dollars) over that in 2010." So where do you get your figure and how was it calculated ? You will have to enlighten us since "we know almost nothing".

KalvaChomer

You also say "The US has nothing approaching central planning or socialism. China does.", right after giving the example of "redistribution" of wealth among the states through "transfer payments" (more properly called block grants and/or categorical grants). You argue against yourself ... amazing !

Where do you get your figures ? Wikipedia cites four sources including the World Bank, IMF and CIA all showing an GDP per capita income in China as around $8400 (2011 figures). . . .

KalvaChomer

ContrayOne - "And Kalva asks why businessmen should invest in America. Maybe because they are Americans? Maybe because the American system allowed them to become wealthy? Why should an 18 year old invest his life in the armed forces?"

Do we in America denigrate our servicemen on a daily basis ... in the news, by politicians and by a larger army of "parasites" we call liberals ? And if the "American System" was what allowed the American businessman to become wealthy, WHY would they be investing in other countries ? Perhaps the 18 year old just needs a "JOB" so badly since liberals have destroyed the job creating market.

ContraryOne

Average income in China is about $14,000/year. For a 2000 hour work year, this amounts to about $7.00/hour.

Most of the coal states and many of the farm states take much more from the Federal government in transfer payments than they contribute in taxes.

How can any educated person make this statement?:

"While we here in America are moving toward central planning and socialism, most of the rest of the world has abandoned Marxist economics and the future is their's."

The US has nothing approaching central planning or socialism. China does. The US has been growing at 1-2% a year, China has been growing at 10% a year.

And Kalva asks why businessmen should invest in America. Maybe because they are Americans? Maybe because the American system allowed them to become wealthy? Why should an 18 year old invest his life in the armed forces?

KalvaChomer

And if you are one of those "educated" people you speak of, where are the answers to the questions I asked ? Like - "Why should these people [Businessmen and investors] give a rat's butt if you have a job or anything else ? ... or "Why not just compete in the free market and show us all how to do it better ?" Your unions are more responsible for the flight of jobs from America than the AFP or Tea Party. And they killed the Twinkie too !

KalvaChomer

And you are not right ? Where is anything original about your whining complaints ? Your line is "HuffPO" all the way. Do I know what a free market means ? Tell me why restricting the market and saying in can only operate where you want it to operate is freer than a market that can operate worldwide ! You liberals claim to care about "all" people but you don't care that people in other countries like China have a job - regardless of what it pays. They are glad to have them. You can call it "slave" labor if you like, but if the problem of forced labor in China is "our" problem, then why was it not our problem to liberate the people of Iraq (or anywhere else) from a dictator - which you liberals have whined about incessantly ?

LocalGrown

KalvaChomer, Your AFP, Tea party talking points dont work on educated people. Free market? DO you even know what that means? One example is China works for 25 cents a day labor, we import their slave labor products and our companies try to compete by actually paying a living wage. No healthcare, no laws for safety, retirement, its just sad your not able to make a intelligent decision when confronted with facts. Thats the TEA PARTY AND AFP WAY. You have been manipulated by professionals whos only job is to misinform, distort and try to convince people that getting less is a better idea. Only fools will by into that theory. Ask yourself this, why are you cutting from the bottom and not the top first? Because the top is whats manipulating your thoughts. Key words are Freedom, big gov., socialist, it isnt really hard to see if you just look at how it is presented. Propaganda is use by AFP, Tea Party, and those type of corporate scammers. You are allowing someone else to think for you.

flyonthewall

When some start to chant corporate welfare where 40% of corporations do not pay income taxes, then you can be taken seriously. Seems this "free market" is not so free when they are given tax credits and incentives to provide employment. Sounds like this socialism I keep hearing about. Why are we only hearing about 47% of Americans?

KalvaChomer

You say "Don't just complain about it....", but your only solution is to "complain" and seek to enlist the government to use the force of law to get the capitalist to do your bidding. Why not just compete in the free market and show us all how to do it better ? If you believe that corporate greed is the problem, then the answer is simple. You on the left can create your own corporations and forego all that greed. That alone should make you competitive an run the greedy right out of the marketplace. Even if we went back to the tariff and protectionist regime, capital will move and they don't need you. They can take their capital, talents, and jobs out of America and find both workers and consumers who are happy to have them. While we here in America are moving toward central planning and socialism, most of the rest of the world has abandoned Marxist economics and the future is their's.

KalvaChomer

LocalGrown - Would you be terribly upset if answered your question "...who is destroying our country.", by saying you should look in the mirror ? It is you and your fellow liberals ! You have fallen prey to the century plus of anti-capitalist propaganda that has turned the "doers" of America into the bete noire of the masses. Why should these people give a rat's butt if you have a job or anything else ? You make them whipping boys. You do nothing but denigrate them. Do you expect that that is going to endear them to the working classes ? They are viewed as "exploiters" who should be regarded as cows to be milked. I can't blame them for taking their capital and jobs to places where it's appreciated.

LocalGrown

We are all americans! Not country americans or city americans, but all americans! Get over your AFP talking points and get real! Food giants import apple juice from China? WTF? Full of DDT or other dangerous chemicals that are against the law here. So we are not going away by choice we are being starved by big corperation profits. Stop the lies!! Show the Facts!We shouldnt allow any country to sell us their harvest if we have it here, sure you can save a dime, but starve your own citizens to do it doesnt make sense to me. How about giving incentives to coperations to buy local? Be stricter on imports, like they are on us. Work together to save our country not tear it apart. Name names of congressmen or women who vote against intelligent proposals. DOnt just complain about it , tell us the facts so we can decide who is destroying our country.