topic Re: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availability in Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1696641#M51097
<P>Furry,</P>
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<P>Any comments about the newer firmware for Pro users? Anything Netgear would like to share with thier valued customers that come here to report thier problems, and seek fixes/resolutions?</P>
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<P>Seems Netgear has new code in the oven, and it has reported better results.</P>
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<P>So, it also seems these problems of performance we report wiht the GA version, don't seem to be limited or meaningless. As Netgear seems to be fixing the speed/throughput problem.</P>
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<P>Would it be fair to say, "Manual firmware relaod, reset and placment" are not going to solve the problems for pre-Beta (GA) users?</P>
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<P>Should we expect any features we requested MONTHS ago to be delivered?</P>
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<P><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/691170" target="_blank" rel="noopener">@mrmattis</A><SPAN>&nbsp;wrote:</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>I have installed beta firmware, 2.2.2.20. Seems to be ok now. Last resultat was 478/437 using Samsung S9+ wifi. 2 meters from router. Using cable is full speed, 500/500.</SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN>I am refering to the thread...</SPAN></P>
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<P><SPAN><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-AC3000-Slow-wifi-and-is-getting-worse/m-p/1696628#M51096" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-AC3000-Slow-wifi-and-is-getting-worse/m-p/1696628#M51096</A></SPAN></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 27 Jan 2019 22:42:32 GMTFlash0082019-01-27T22:42:32ZOrbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1584969#M32898
<DIV><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>We’ve been monitoring issues that some customers have experienced in OrbiOS 2.1.4. In response, we’re releasing firmware that provides a permanent fix for the homekit issue along with various other fixes.&nbsp; Please use the manual firmware upgrade process to apply to your Orbi.</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>Release note:</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<LI><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>Fixes issues with the Apple HomeKit connectivity</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></LI>
<LI><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>Fixes the wireless crash and reboot issue when the router is under stress</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></LI>
<LI><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>Fixes WiFi disconnection and IOT issues</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></LI>
<LI><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>Fixes an issue where devices on the Guest Network are able to see (but not connect to) some devices on the main network </I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></LI>
<LI><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>Fixes an issue where device boot order caused devices connected over Ethernet Backhaul to connect wireless backhaul </I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></LI>
<LI><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>Updates the OpenVPN certificate</I></FONT><I> </I><FONT color="#002060"><I>from MD5 to SHA-256</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></LI>
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<DIV><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>Procedure: </I></FONT><A href="https://kb.netgear.com/31573/How-do-I-manually-upgrade-firmware-on-my-Orbi-Satellite" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><I><FONT color="#002060">https://kb.netgear.com/31573/How-do-I-manually-upgrade-firmware-on-my-Orbi-Satellite</FONT></I></A><I> </I></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><I></I><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>RBR50: </I></FONT><A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=eU8AGcH35R" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><I><FONT color="#002060">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=eU8AGcH35R</FONT></I></A><FONT color="#002060"><I> &nbsp;</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><I></I><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>RBS50: </I></FONT><A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=VROsn1CTlN" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><I><FONT color="#002060">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=VROsn1CTlN</FONT></I></A><I> </I></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><I></I><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>RBR40: <A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=VprvKm5KKQ" target="_self">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=VprvKm5KKQ</A></I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><I></I><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>RBS40: <A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=qnSeFhnPee" target="_self">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=qnSeFhnPee</A></I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><I></I><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>RBR20: </I></FONT><A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=KoVqfb1rnu" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><I><FONT color="#002060">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=KoVqfb1rnu</FONT></I></A><FONT color="#002060"><I> &nbsp;</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><I></I><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>RBS20: </I></FONT><A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=IoDbhdoimw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><I><FONT color="#002060">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=IoDbhdoimw</FONT></I></A><FONT color="#002060"><I> &nbsp;</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><I></I><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>RBW30: </I></FONT><A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=eQBpp8wlKK" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><I><FONT color="#002060">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=eQBpp8wlKK</FONT></I></A><I> </I></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><I><FONT color="#002060">RBS50Y&nbsp;<A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=ihUvlS8gqG" target="_blank">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=ihUvlS8gqG</A>&nbsp;</FONT></I></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>&nbsp;</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>Note:</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I><U><STRONG>CBR40</STRONG></U> will be available later this month.&nbsp;</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#1f497d">&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT size="3" color="#002060"><I>We look forward to hearing your feedback.</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT face="AvenirNext LT Pro Regular,sans-serif" size="3" color="#002060">&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>-<FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT face="AvenirNext LT Pro Regular,sans-serif" size="3" color="#002060">NETGEAR Team</FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>Wed, 20 Jun 2018 16:47:46 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1584969#M32898BretD2018-06-20T16:47:46ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1584979#M32901
<P>Can we wait until the RBS50sy firmware is out to update ? Or will it happen automatically?</P>Mon, 04 Jun 2018 22:09:53 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1584979#M32901jmschnur9232018-06-04T22:09:53ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585024#M32914
<P>Hi&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="417344"></LI-USER>,</P>
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<P>The Guest Network is still NOT isolated with this new Firmware version 2.1.4.16 in the link below. I can’t believe this is still an unresolved topic and we are continued to be taunted with this unless check box in the Guest Network Settings “Allow guests to see each other and access my local network” ….<SPAN>&nbsp; </SPAN>WHY do you hate us.. the loyal customer that goes out of our way to spend time writing on the community board time and time again about the same unresolved topic?... but I hear Orbi Pro is doing fantastic.. thanks to the Obri Home community complaining about this over and over again and <LI-USER uid="343336"></LI-USER>&nbsp;reading the post.<SPAN>&nbsp; </SPAN>Good job testing before you got my hopes up with the exquisite release notes..</P>
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<LI><EM>Fixes an issue where devices on the Guest Network are able to see (but not connect to) some devices on the main network&nbsp;</EM></LI>
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<P><EM>NOPE!</EM></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Mon, 04 Jun 2018 23:51:11 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585024#M32914Stratguru2018-06-04T23:51:11ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585045#M32921
<P>Having a great experience with firmware 2.1.1.14 after I increased the&nbsp;Advertisement Time to Live(in hops) to 16 in UPnP section under advanced settings. File transfers are rock solid now.</P>
<P>Just updated to 2.1.4.16 and expect continued good results.</P>
<P>It took a long time to get the firmware right, but now I'm loving my Orbi system. No complains here. Good job!</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 00:37:22 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585045#M32921jcalex222018-06-05T00:37:22ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585075#M32924
The post says it's a manual update for now.Tue, 05 Jun 2018 01:42:39 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585075#M32924loomis19752018-06-05T01:42:39ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585078#M32925
<P>Does anyone know if the Orbi system will auto-update to a non-beta firmware after we install beta firmware?&nbsp; i.e., if I install the 2.1.4.16 update, when Netgear releases the final version, will Orbi auto-update as usual, or will I have to manually install the public release?</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 01:53:36 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585078#M32925mrbofus2018-06-05T01:53:36ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585110#M32928
So far so good. No disconnections on my pixel C.Tue, 05 Jun 2018 04:10:34 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585110#M32928Landerx2018-06-05T04:10:34ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585151#M32930
<P>&lt;remove&gt;</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 08:38:56 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585151#M32930angr2018-06-05T08:38:56ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585224#M32933
<P>What should i do if my Orbi firmware is not automatically updating?</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:45:30 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585224#M32933RobertoGarner2018-06-05T10:45:30ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585256#M32934
The last sentence in the first paragraph states “Please use the manual firmware upgrade process to apply to your Orbi.”Tue, 05 Jun 2018 11:50:36 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585256#M32934Wizec2018-06-05T11:50:36ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585461#M32958
<P>Still haven't fixed ethernet backhaul. I updated my RBR50 and satellite to this firmware, all was well for a minute or two, then the network crashed and had no internet. Multiple reboots and still no internet. I unplugged the ethernet backhaul link and rebooted the router and all is working again on the wireless backhaul...ugh.</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:14:05 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585461#M32958manofice2018-06-05T18:14:05ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585464#M32959
<P>Is there any network switches in between the router and satellite? If so, Mfr and model# please. </P>
<P>Is daisy chain disabled on the router before connecting the ethernet cable?</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="371019"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Still haven't fixed ethernet backhaul. I updated my RBR50 and satellite to this firmware, all was well for a minute or two, then the network crashed and had no internet. Multiple reboots and still no internet. I unplugged the ethernet backhaul link and rebooted the router and all is working again on the wireless backhaul...ugh.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:16:34 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585464#M32959FURRYe382018-06-05T18:16:34ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585468#M32960
<P>Can you elaborate a bit on what changing the UPNP time hop settings does?</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:19:50 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585468#M32960manofice2018-06-05T18:19:50ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585476#M32961
<P>No, no switches in between. Was working OK prior to the firmware upgrade. After the firmware upgrade, systems were all running ok for a few minutes, then it all came down.</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:28:09 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585476#M32961manofice2018-06-05T18:28:09ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585480#M32963
<P>Ok, if you have done reboots, disabled Daisy Chain and such, I would do a factory reset on both satellite and router and set up from scratch.</P>
<P>After the router is set up and Daisy chain is disabled first. Disconnect ALL other LAN cable devices accept for 1 wired PC. Re-add the satellite via wifi. Let is sync and get BLUE led on top. Then reconnect the Satellite with the ethernet cable. Give 5 minutes and wait for the top BLUE led to appear. YOu could do this with the Satellite near the router if you want to, then if you can get the satellite synced with wired back haul, turn off then replace back at remote location. Then re-connect all other LAN devices back to the router.</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="371019"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>No, no switches in between. Was working OK prior to the firmware upgrade. After the firmware upgrade, systems were all running ok for a few minutes, then it all came down.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:39:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585480#M32963FURRYe382018-06-05T18:39:24ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585613#M32993
<P>Do RBR50 and RBS50 use the same firmware? Both download links for RBR50 and RBS50 get the same RBS50-V2.1.4.16.img file on my MacBook.</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 22:54:26 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585613#M32993ktula2018-06-05T22:54:26ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585615#M32994
<P>Oh i see the issue now. The firmware download site does not really allow you to concurrently download multiple firmware updates at the same time. If you do that, it will get only one version of the firmware update.</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 23:00:27 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585615#M32994ktula2018-06-05T23:00:27ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585625#M32999
<P>Should be different model #'s.&nbsp;</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 23:21:02 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585625#M32999FURRYe382018-06-05T23:21:02ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585629#M33000
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="74881"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Should be different model #'s.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>This is what happened. I clicked on the link to the firmware update for RBR50 first, which opened a new tab in Safari. Then i clicked on the link for RBS50 and it opened another new tab. When i went to the tab for the RBR50 firmware update and click on "Download file", it proceeded to download&nbsp;RBS50-V2.1.4.16.img. I was incorrect when i mentioned concurrent download was an issue. Looks like the issue is with opening multiple tabs to different firmware updates in the browser (Safari). If you didn't click on the "Download file" link in the first tab to download the firmware update before you open a second or third tab for a different firmware update, the firmware update in the last opened tab will be the one you will be downloading even if you go back to the first tab to download that different firmware update.</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 23:28:23 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585629#M33000ktula2018-06-05T23:28:23ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585631#M33001
<P>Glad you figured it out. Ya, should be different model listed in the file name. Same FW version listed for all though.&nbsp;</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 23:32:11 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585631#M33001FURRYe382018-06-05T23:32:11ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585633#M33002
<P>I see that <SPAN>performing a factory reset is</SPAN>&nbsp;being mentioned again.......... I do hope we don't have to do this with every firmware..... I mean I have an orbi outdoor unit &amp; having to unscrew it is a pain in the a$$ =(&nbsp;</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 23:35:32 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585633#M33002computersteve2018-06-05T23:35:32ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585638#M33004
<P>Sure, no problem. When I tried to transfer any movie file to my Nvidia Shield HD it would transfer about 75% for the file (2.5 GB) and then time out. By increasing the hop times I was able to complete the transfers without a problem. It may be an Android OS thing, but&nbsp; this got it working.</P>Tue, 05 Jun 2018 23:42:11 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585638#M33004jcalex222018-06-05T23:42:11ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585649#M33006
<P>I am so sick of this pile of crap, wired backhaul causing the entire unit to crash every 5 seconds. WiFi is unusable with this new SW version. 2.1.4.16 &nbsp;Yes I’ve started with a factory reset, and have tried re-booting router and RBS50, no luck here. Had to ditch the wired backhaul. What a pile. Would never recommend this to my worst enemy. Netgear what gives? Are you employing incompetent people?</P>
<P>if one of my companies products worked like this we would throw our best staff at the problem, and work 24/7 to get it right. You are destroying your reputation by allowing this to continue.</P>
<P>frustrated consumer that gave netgear over $600.00 only to be regretting it.</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 00:12:35 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585649#M33006mbski2018-06-06T00:12:35ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585682#M33012
<P>2.1.4.16 seems to be working well, wireless and wired seem to be a little more zippy now, no problems with my wires backhaul either, in speed tests I am seeing jitter at or close to 0 prior to this update it was 1 to 2 ms. Those having issues might want to try a factory reset.&nbsp;</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 01:37:10 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585682#M33012Retired_Member2018-06-06T01:37:10ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585683#M33013
<P>Oh well, that didnt last long.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Same issue persists. The difference now, it appears while using the device, whereas previoulsy, it happened upon waking.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Ipad shows connected to wifi and internet drops out.&nbsp; Ipad wifi must by cycled to reconnect again.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Support can reach out to me for logs, I have them saved.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Back to the locked room for more exercizes in futility.</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 01:50:41 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585683#M33013steve84112018-06-06T01:50:41ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585691#M33014
I have installed this update hoping to fix severe disconnect issues. That seems to be better, but now wireless speed is down significantly, from 50+ mbps to less than 20. Wired tests to my router are still very good. I'm running an rbs40 in AP mode, no satellite currently.Wed, 06 Jun 2018 02:07:17 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585691#M33014Yeahthatsme2018-06-06T02:07:17ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585719#M33023
<P>Why am i getting this error when i attempted to update the satellites?</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>401 Unauthorized</P>
<P><SPAN>Access to this resource is denied, your client has not supplied the correct authentication.</SPAN></P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 03:43:34 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585719#M33023ktula2018-06-06T03:43:34ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585723#M33025
<P>Ok, found the issue. The Orbi firmware update interface does not like Safari. When i used Chrome, i could see the login prompt for the Satellite (this prompt didn't show up in Safari).</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 04:06:50 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585723#M33025ktula2018-06-06T04:06:50ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585730#M33028
<P>I have an RBR50 and two RBS50's on wireless backhaul; download/upload speeds seem to be staying pretty good for me.&nbsp; 890Mbps/36Mbps down/up on my desktop wired to the router, and 550Mbps/37Mbps down/up on my iPhone X.&nbsp; All HomeKit issues I was experiencing seem to have gone away as well. *fingers crossed*</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 04:35:12 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585730#M33028mrbofus2018-06-06T04:35:12ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585733#M33029
<P>I thought this update was supposed to fix Apple Homekit connectivity issue. I had occasional issue with Homekit when the router/satellites were on v2.1.4.10. Now that they are updated to v2.1.4.16, Homekit is completely broken. I can't connect any of the devices in the Homekit network. Anyone else having the same issue?</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 04:47:44 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585733#M33029ktula2018-06-06T04:47:44ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585763#M33038
<P>Nice try but the router still reboot like before.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Router in AP mode, factory reset router and satellite.</P>
<P>Router System Uptime 01:25:35&nbsp; !!<BR />Satellite System Uptime 14:48:55&nbsp;</P>
<P>Both started yesterday, same time...</P>
<P>Satellite connected with wired directly to my main router.</P>
<P><SPAN>Router connected too with wired directly to my main router.</SPAN></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><SPAN>Is there a reason why the uptime can't be stable for the router !? Satellite works well !&nbsp; in AP mode what could do the router more than the satellite that cause the reboot !!? it's a basic mode !</SPAN></P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 07:54:08 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585763#M33038chsalmon2018-06-06T07:54:08ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585824#M33043
<P>Well that experiment was short-lived. Updated from 2.1.4.1 to this new 2.1.4.16 on both the RBR50 and my single RBS50. Not only did the&nbsp;random WiFi drops out and router hangs issues continue they increased and changed a bit. Now when I try to connect with certain devices (like the Playstation&nbsp;PS4 connected wirelessly to play a game) the Router hangs and loses internet but does not stop broadcasting the WiFi signal. So all devices think they are connected but... no internet and no access to 192.168.1.1 on web or app. The app thinks the Orbi is not on the network but yet everything thinks it is connected. On 2.1.4.1 at least the WiFi network would drop completely so it would trigger my WiFi PowerSwitch to do a reboot and fix the issue (yes overkill for a home router and annoying but it is my fix).&nbsp; I tried hard rebooting many times and I tried factory reset and all options configured manually but... nope this new firmware is actually less stable for my system than 2.1.4.1 which did the drop and or reboot thing about 3-4 times a day average. Running a RBR50 and a single RBS50, no wired backhaul, daisy chain off. Lots of devices connect (about 13-19 at a time average) but seriously pretty standard set up. Bummed as I thought finally we had a solution to the family complaining "Dad the internet is gone again" issue. At least the remote WiFi power switch reboots it for me on 2.1.4.1 so I dont&nbsp;have to be there to do it myself now. I tried Velop but the speed decrease was about 40-50% slower than Orbin and the range was awful&nbsp;in comparison so I sent it back and kept the Orbi. Not sure what to do now. Orbi has the speed and range dialed in over everything else but... this uptime issue is terrible.</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 11:28:20 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585824#M33043arosstyler2018-06-06T11:28:20ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585835#M33044
<P>I'm at the end of the line.&nbsp; I am returning this terrrible router/satellite to Costco.&nbsp; I have never had so many issues with a router/computer/TV or any electronic device as I have had with the Orbi.&nbsp; I tried to stick it out but after 1 full year of inconsistent internet I am done.&nbsp; I have tried all remedies suggested by Orbi including beta firmware, replacing the actual satellite/router and none have worked.&nbsp; The only consistent thing about the ORBI is that it does not work consistently.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>This firmware update is no better and is the same old story.&nbsp; Performed this update and the router and satellites have been disconnecting non stop.&nbsp; Multiple reboot and power on/off cycles and still not working as it should.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Goodbye ORBI</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 11:56:34 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585835#M33044Hsc11022018-06-06T11:56:34ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585848#M33045
<P><LI-USER uid="419762"></LI-USER>&nbsp;I feel your pain haha. What do you plan to move too? I tried Velop and it was a no go for me (40-50% speed decrease and I would need like 5 nodes to get close to the coverage of just the Orbi router and one satellite). I am entertaining alternatives always and not sure what is worth trying. Curious as to what you decide. Thanks!</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 12:19:19 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585848#M33045arosstyler2018-06-06T12:19:19ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585861#M33047
<P>I am ordering the Google wifi.&nbsp; I know that in all tests and reviews the ORBI was best performing but in my time of ownership, the ORBI rarely if ever attained and maintained that performance.&nbsp; At this point I would rather take consistency.</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="611898"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P><LI-USER uid="419762"></LI-USER>&nbsp;I feel your pain haha. What do you plan to move too? I tried Velop and it was a no go for me (40-50% speed decrease and I would need like 5 nodes to get close to the coverage of just the Orbi router and one satellite). I am entertaining alternatives always and not sure what is worth trying. Curious as to what you decide. Thanks!</P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 12:49:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585861#M33047Hsc11022018-06-06T12:49:24ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585890#M33049
<P>Just to add my experience to this, my Orbi RBK50 has been working all right on wired backhaul since v2.1.3.4, and it's so far so good on v2.1.4.16 as well. I updated manually—satellite first, then router (as recommended)—and then also power cycled both units subsequently&nbsp;("simulate power outage") and everything came back up as expected.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Evidently not all&nbsp;users are having an issue-free time here, so just looking at my setup maybe&nbsp;there's one more thing those who are having issues (especially with wired backhaul) can try. I've set up my Satellite to get an assigned IP from my Router (10.0.0.2 in my case because I've got 192.168.1.x used by my ISP modem/router, but others can use 192.168.1.2 and so on, accordingly), since the Satellite is always going to be a part of the network. There shouldn't be any harm in trying this, and perhaps the assigned IP helps the system with reconfiguring when switching from wireless to wired backhaul, or quickly recognising the wired backhaul connection straightaway when (re-)booting up. No guarantees this fixes anything for anyone, but hopefully it helps somebody out there!</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 13:21:36 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585890#M33049bryandmlee2018-06-06T13:21:36ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585910#M33050
<P><LI-USER uid="419762"></LI-USER></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Read thru the google wifi forums.&nbsp; They aren't problem free either.</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 13:48:22 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585910#M33050tsig2018-06-06T13:48:22ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585939#M33057
<P>Yes it will</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 14:30:45 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585939#M33057DrN3RD2018-06-06T14:30:45ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585994#M33074
<P>Since 2.1.4.10 upgrade, ethernet backhaul seems stable to me, provided i follow these after each upgrade, else, i see crashes</P>
<P>1) shutdown other sat, disconnect other wired devices to ANY SAT and ROUTER</P>
<P>2) upgrade 1 sat, let it reboot, it will connect wireless first to router, just wait and eventually it will connect wired, wait&nbsp;@ 5 min till it get stable wired</P>
<P>3) Power up 2nd sat, let it get stable and connect wired, upgrade 2nd sat, let it reboot, let it get stable and let it connect wirelessly, then it will connect wired.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>
<P>4) wait 10 min, let both sat get stable and connec to router wired</P>
<P>5) upgrade router, let it reboot, let it connect to the net but POWER IT OFF anyway,&nbsp;</P>
<P>6) go to GUI and watch the SATs get stable wired connection, it might flip back and forth, mine took about 5-10 min.</P>
<P>7) once stable connect your wired devices</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>hope it helps</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:40:00 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1585994#M33074olf2018-06-06T15:40:00ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586003#M33079
<P>i haven't had any e backhaul issues since version x.x.4.10 (x.x.4.16 is ok too) since i made sat's 0.2 and 0.3 ip's.&nbsp; Before it gets stable with wired, wireless IP will be all over the place but when it settles to 0.2 and 0.3, its all good</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:50:25 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586003#M33079olf2018-06-06T15:50:25ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586058#M33088
<P>Just wanted to chime in and let you know, that updating my RBK40 to 2.1.4.16 went just as smooth as 2.1.4.10 did. This comes as no surprise, since my system didn't had any issues with previous FWs. However, the - more cosmetic - issue, of my RBR showing solid magenta after reboot, due to the wired backhaul setup, hasn't been fixed, but I can live with that. Simply turning the LED ring off is easy enough, since my system never booted on its own.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 17:50:06 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586058#M33088budy2018-06-06T17:50:06ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586062#M33089
<P>Finally, it resolved my previous problems. Internet back to normal. Thank you for the bug fixes.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Best regards,</P>
<P>Elofi</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 17:56:02 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586062#M33089Elofi2018-06-06T17:56:02ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586211#M33107
<P>Updated to 2.1.4.16 and the system works fine. &nbsp;But, I've never had any issues in the 17 months I've owned Orbi. I'm running in AP mode, with IP addresses statically assigned to the Orbi router and two sateliites by my Mikrotik router. I have numerous Sonos devices, Bluetooth sensor devices, Hue bulbs, wireless thermostats, and some custom 2.4 GHz Zigbee sensors in the house.</P>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 23:01:49 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586211#M33107st_shaw2018-06-06T23:01:49ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586243#M33108
<P>I want to call out a "good job" to the Netgear team for posting this beta and NOT forcing it on everyone - and instead, waiting for feedback etc.&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I understand it doesn't solve everyone's problems, but I think the method here is better and responds to the complaints on this message board that new versions are just launched/forced on everyone and then new problems are introduced.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>This version did also address specific concerns (MD5 etc) so at least it's a bit of progress, even if it's not the silver bullet.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Keep working on improvements and fixes please.</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 00:27:07 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586243#M33108Jeremyinsf2018-06-07T00:27:07ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586245#M33109
<P>And by the way, I did install it, and no new problems for me.&nbsp; I re-did my VPN with the update and that works correctly.</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 00:29:06 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586245#M33109Jeremyinsf2018-06-07T00:29:06ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586271#M33113
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="562391"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Hi&nbsp;<LI-USER uid="417344"></LI-USER>,</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>The Guest Network is still NOT isolated with this new Firmware version 2.1.4.16 in the link below. I can’t believe this is still an unresolved topic and we are continued to be taunted with this unless check box in the Guest Network Settings “Allow guests to see each other and access my local network” ….<SPAN>&nbsp; </SPAN>WHY do you hate us.. the loyal customer that goes out of our way to spend time writing on the community board time and time again about the same unresolved topic?... but I hear Orbi Pro is doing fantastic.. thanks to the Obri Home community complaining about this over and over again and <LI-USER uid="343336"></LI-USER>&nbsp;reading the post.<SPAN>&nbsp; </SPAN>Good job testing before you got my hopes up with the exquisite release notes..</P>
<UL>
<LI><EM>Fixes an issue where devices on the Guest Network are able to see (but not connect to) some devices on the main network&nbsp;</EM></LI>
</UL>
<P><EM>NOPE!</EM></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
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<P>I was so surprised to read this that I had to check for myself - and I'll be damned, yep, via Fing it looks completely wide-open (it isn't, but it's only blocking basic ICMP echo requests and port-level TCP).&nbsp; Ugh.</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 01:55:18 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586271#M33113rhester722018-06-07T01:55:18ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586272#M33114
<P>Network Isolation was not on the list of things corrected with this version.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I do, however, agree it should be fixed and that it should be a priority.&nbsp; They fixed it for Pro but not standard Orbi.</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 02:02:16 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586272#M33114Jeremyinsf2018-06-07T02:02:16ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586417#M33121
<P>If there is someone/something that you suspect coudl be doing something nefarious on your network, why would you allow them/it on your network at all?&nbsp; This "issue" sure doesn't seem like it is all that pressing.&nbsp; YOU are in control of who/what is on your network.&nbsp; Exercise that control.</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:05:28 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586417#M33121tsig2018-06-07T12:05:28ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586420#M33123
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="577491"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Network Isolation was not on the list of things corrected with this version.&nbsp;&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I do, however, agree it should be fixed and that it should be a priority.&nbsp; They fixed it for Pro but not standard Orbi.</P>
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<P>You're unfortunately mistaken on this one.&nbsp; Directly from the release notes in the very first post:</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
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<LI><FONT face="Calibri,sans-serif" size="2"><SPAN><FONT color="#002060"><I>Fixes an issue where devices on the Guest Network are able to see (but not connect to) some devices on the main network</I></FONT></SPAN></FONT></LI>
</UL>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:20:29 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586420#M33123rhester722018-06-07T12:20:29ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586423#M33124
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="564768"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>If there is someone/something that you suspect coudl be doing something nefarious on your network, why would you allow them/it on your network at all?&nbsp; This "issue" sure doesn't seem like it is all that pressing.&nbsp; YOU are in control of who/what is on your network.&nbsp; Exercise that control.</P>
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<P>I'm going to take it as read that this was said in jest and/or you're uninformed.&nbsp; The same holds true of any IoT devices (and in a much bigger way) - if the companies producing those devices are lax, shall we just give them a free pass because, well, the consumer made the decision to put them on their network, didn't they?</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:22:16 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586423#M33124rhester722018-06-07T12:22:16ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586478#M33125
<P>Somewhat true, but if the network isolation would work correctly, seperation would be complete and you couldn't get to your IoT devices from your trusted network as well. You do need to connect to yout IoT thingys, don't you. So, you would place them on your trusted network anyway…</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>There are only a very small number of IoT devices which make sense to be placed in the guest network. It's more your friends and family visiting you and demanding wifi internet access…</P>
<P>So <LI-USER uid="564768"></LI-USER> has a point here. Network isolation woule be cruical for a public hotspot, where you don't control who or what is using your guest network.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 14:00:36 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586478#M33125budy2018-06-07T14:00:36ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586487#M33128
<P>Ok just wondering can we expect the firmware for the&nbsp;<STRONG><I><U>RBS50Y</U></I></STRONG><I><U></U></I><U></U> soon? or has that been delayed ?&nbsp;</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 14:09:35 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586487#M33128computersteve2018-06-07T14:09:35ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586489#M33129
<P>I noted some posts&nbsp;say this is a <EM>Beta</EM> release firmware. Is that true?</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 14:11:42 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586489#M33129tucsontico2018-06-07T14:11:42ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586531#M33137
<P>I think they are all beta ... LOL</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I was recently provided 2.1.5.52 ...</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>It was a total disaster ....</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>They are having a tough time figuring this out .....</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 14:49:44 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586531#M33137steve84112018-06-07T14:49:44ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586548#M33139
<P>See I think whats going on here is there must be different hardware revisions of the same product model... I have no problems at all (thankfully &amp; knock on wood) lol &amp; so do many others... where im noticing that people that bought the same device are also having tons of problems... I would love to know from Netgear. Does every RBR50 have the same internal hardware? &amp; Does every RBS50 have the same internal hardware.... If it doesn't then people are right. This could very well be a hardware defect lol. The same applies for the other models RBS40, RBR40, etc...&nbsp;</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 15:05:54 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586548#M33139computersteve2018-06-07T15:05:54ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586586#M33145
<P>Someone mentioned before that there maybe differences between early models and later or more recent models. 2017 was mentioned as a mid year time frame...</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="375082"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>See I think whats going on here is there must be different hardware revisions of the same product model... I have no problems at all (thankfully &amp; knock on wood) lol &amp; so do many others... where im noticing that people that bought the same device are also having tons of problems... I would love to know from Netgear. Does every RBR50 have the same internal hardware? &amp; Does every RBS50 have the same internal hardware.... If it doesn't then people are right. This could very well be a hardware defect lol. The same applies for the other models RBS40, RBR40, etc...&nbsp;</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 15:49:17 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586586#M33145FURRYe382018-06-07T15:49:17ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586592#M33147
Makes sense.. I got mine in the beginning of 2018.Thu, 07 Jun 2018 15:55:02 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586592#M33147computersteve2018-06-07T15:55:02ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586594#M33149
"Fixes an issue where devices on the Guest Network are able to see (but not connect to) some devices on the main network"<BR /><BR />- Yes it says this ... but to me it looks like they fixed the issue where guest devices could not connect to the main network. <BR />- The text does not say "fixed an issue where clients on the guest network are not properly isolated from the main network"Thu, 07 Jun 2018 15:56:28 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586594#M33149Jeremyinsf2018-06-07T15:56:28ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586597#M33150
Agreed. That’s the way I interpreted that as well.Thu, 07 Jun 2018 15:58:29 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586597#M33150computersteve2018-06-07T15:58:29ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586625#M33154
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="577491"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />"Fixes an issue where devices on the Guest Network are able to see (but not connect to) some devices on the main network"<BR /><BR />- Yes it says this ... but to me it looks like they fixed the issue where guest devices could not connect to the main network. <BR />- The text does not say "fixed an issue where clients on the guest network are not properly isolated from the main network"<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>You know...I hadn't read it that way, but I see your point.&nbsp; It's literally the reverse of the way I initially read it, because we all see what we want to see, I guess.&nbsp; <img id="smileyhappy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyhappy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.png" alt="Smiley Happy" title="Smiley Happy" />&nbsp; I'm looking for total isolation, so that's how I took it, but if you *aren't* blocking transit from guest to main and things aren't interoperable, I can see how that'd be a problem too (I hadn't actually read any reports of that, but I can pretty easily see how it could happen).</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 16:36:28 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586625#M33154rhester722018-06-07T16:36:28ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586668#M33157
<P>Yes, auto updates will still happen.</P>
<P>I used teh beta 2.1.3.4 and auto updated just fine</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 17:50:47 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586668#M33157globespy2018-06-07T17:50:47ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586711#M33161
<P>Am also anxiously awaiting the updated firmware for the RBS50Y outdoor satellite.</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 18:59:34 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586711#M33161Miles2672018-06-07T18:59:34ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586830#M33174
<P>My upgrade to .16 was a bit bumpy... (I have wired backhaul)</P>
<P>satellite upgraded fine, then upload to main router failed half way through. So I turned off satellite and upload worked and the upgrade completed.</P>
<P>But then main router kept rebooting and disconnecting. Turned everything off and on, but no difference.</P>
<P>Knowing from previous experience the wired backhaul caused issues, I unplugged the ethernet cable, power cycled everything and everything came back working. Phew, I really didn't want to hard reset.</P>
<P>I am yet to plug back the ethernet cable, that'll be later...</P>
<P>One thing i did notice was that when i upgraded the satellite, it got a new IP address. When i restarted it without wired, it got the old ip address back....perhaps some nat issues, dunno. Maybe the satellite should have reserved IP address. Anyway can't really be bothered to spend more time now that i am back and running .</P>
<P>Overall happy now with Orbi.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 22:38:32 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586830#M33174BarryTreg2018-06-07T22:38:32ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586836#M33175
<P>The firmware for the Outdoor Orbi RBS50y is finishing internal testing and should be posted in this thread as soon as it is ready which should be really quick.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>DarrenM</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 22:46:51 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586836#M33175DarrenM2018-06-07T22:46:51ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586837#M33176
<P>The firmware for the Outdoor Orbi RBS50y is finishing internal testing and should be posted in this thread as soon as it is ready which should be really quick.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>DarrenM</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 22:46:55 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586837#M33176DarrenM2018-06-07T22:46:55ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586855#M33179
<P>I can't get the update using the app. it still says firmware is up to date. Instructions look like it says to update manually with an ethernet cable. I'm using a macbook pro and they haven't had ethernet ports in years. How can I get this update?</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 23:45:22 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586855#M33179Mdnrooks10312018-06-07T23:45:22ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586859#M33180
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="544627"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>I can't get the update using the app. it still says firmware is up to date. Instructions look like it says to update manually with an ethernet cable. I'm using a macbook pro and they haven't had ethernet ports in years. How can I get this update?</P>
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<P>No need for Ethernet. Download the firwmare files to your Mac. Log into the router's GUI using a web broswer on your Mac. Do a manual update via the browser. Update the satellite(s) first. &nbsp;Then update the router. &nbsp;There is a unique firmware file for each.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Wired is best, because there is less risk of corruption when loading te firmware onto the router, but wireless should work fine.</P>Thu, 07 Jun 2018 23:54:21 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586859#M33180st_shaw2018-06-07T23:54:21ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586913#M33187
<P>Has anyone noticed that in those download links the RBR50 and RBS50 are listed? They're unique links and when you look at the download icon on their respective pages they say RBR and RBS but when you download the file from each page they both say&nbsp;RBS50-V2.1.4.16.img and are the exact same size.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>??</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 02:05:30 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586913#M33187TECHX20012018-06-08T02:05:30ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586914#M33188
<P>I didn't notice it until you pointed it out, but I agree the file sizes are identical.</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 02:11:06 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586914#M33188Jeremyinsf2018-06-08T02:11:06ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586920#M33191
<P>There are two separate files and are named differently. Just downloaded the RBR50 and RBS50 files.</P>
<P>They are the same file size though.&nbsp;<img id="smileyfrustrated" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyfrustrated" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-frustrated.png" alt="Smiley Frustrated" title="Smiley Frustrated" /></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="459183"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Has anyone noticed that in those download links the RBR50 and RBS50 are listed? They're unique links and when you look at the download icon on their respective pages they say RBR and RBS but when you download the file from each page they both say&nbsp;RBS50-V2.1.4.16.img and are the exact same size.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>??</P>
<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 02:23:59 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586920#M33191FURRYe382018-06-08T02:23:59ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586925#M33193
<P><LI-USER uid="459183"></LI-USER>&nbsp;Both files happen to have the same filesize, yes. But they are two different files (their md5 checksums are different, if that counts for anything), and I definitely saw two different filenames when I had updated to v2.1.4.16.</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 02:40:30 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586925#M33193bryandmlee2018-06-08T02:40:30ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586927#M33194
<P>If the RBR50 and RBS50 share the same firmware than I have a few questions:</P>
<UL>
<LI>Why generate two unique hyperlinks pointing to two product downloads.</LI>
<LI>Why provide the file names if they will not match downloaded file name</LI>
</UL>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>And to one the previous posterers: no, the file names are not unique when downloading at least not for me.&nbsp; Unless I'm facing some strange browser bug.&nbsp; See screenshot.&nbsp; This appears to be an error in upload or in redirection when downloading the file.&nbsp; Can someone else attempt to download the firmware from both links and tell me the download name for both shows as RBS50?</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 02:43:13 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586927#M33194TECHX20012018-06-08T02:43:13ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586941#M33198
<P>I have RBK40, which link should I use? The RBS40?</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 03:36:36 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586941#M33198xanderwong2018-06-08T03:36:36ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586950#M33199
If you have RBK40 kit use RBR40 for router, after you use RBS40 for your satellite.Fri, 08 Jun 2018 04:24:04 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586950#M33199loomis19752018-06-08T04:24:04ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586954#M33200
<P>When logging in to the web portal, and going to the "firmware update" page, I am not able to bypass updating my wall plug satellite. There is no updated firmware for the satellite, only the router. How can I update the router's firmware only?</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 04:41:35 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586954#M33200Shorty862018-06-08T04:41:35ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586966#M33201
<P>You need to open either of the links first, finish that download, before opening the second link and then downloading that instead. There are definitely two different firmware update files for the routers and satellites.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Your scenario where both downloads show the same file/name happens because you opened both links first&nbsp;before initiating the downloads: unfortunately the intermediate step (showing Uploaded on, File name, File size, and Download file) always uses the URL&nbsp;<A href="https://files.netgear-support.com/go/index.php?action=d&amp;step=3" target="_blank">https://files.netgear-support.com/go/index.php?action=d&amp;step=3</A>, so it just ends up serving&nbsp;the most recent file requested by the browser (based on your screenshot, you opened the link for the Router file first, followed by the Satellite file, which is why "both" downloads serve up the Satellite file).</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I suppose Netgear (cc: <LI-USER uid="417344"></LI-USER>)&nbsp;could improve on the intermediate download step, or at the very least leave an instruction with the download links to open and download each link strictly&nbsp;one at a time.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="459183"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>If the RBR50 and RBS50 share the same firmware than I have a few questions:</P>
<UL>
<LI>Why generate two unique hyperlinks pointing to two product downloads.</LI>
<LI>Why provide the file names if they will not match downloaded file name</LI>
</UL>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>And to one the previous posterers: no, the file names are not unique when downloading at least not for me.&nbsp; Unless I'm facing some strange browser bug.&nbsp; See screenshot.&nbsp; This appears to be an error in upload or in redirection when downloading the file.&nbsp; Can someone else attempt to download the firmware from both links and tell me the download name for both shows as RBS50?</P>
<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 05:23:09 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586966#M33201bryandmlee2018-06-08T05:23:09ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586988#M33202
<P>No issues. &nbsp;Mine is working perfectly - best its ever been. &nbsp;I have four Lifx globes, and I bought my Orbi RBK50 system mid March, and since then, I have had varying success with the Orbis, Lifx and Homekit. &nbsp;The beta FW just before 14 was the best, but two days ago I downloaded and installed FW V2.1.4.16. &nbsp;By the way, my Orbis are in Access Point mode.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Here's what happened</P>
<UL>
<LI>There is one router and one satellite. &nbsp;The router shows 27 attached devices, 7 wired, and the satellite shows 14.</LI>
<LI>It took about an hour of pink and blue ovals on both devices after I manually installed the FW (satellite first). &nbsp;I reverted to WiFi backhaul and once everything settled, I plugged in my Ethernet backhaul cable to the satellite with no problems</LI>
<LI>After power-cycling a few devices, they eventually sorted themselves out and attached to the nearest Orbi</LI>
<LI>Every device connected at 2.4Ghz is only able to do that - they have no 5Ghz capability (Lifx, iRobot, TP-Link switches, Google Chromecast and Wemo Link)</LI>
<LI>Every device capable of both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz (Apple, Google and Amazon stuff) is connected at 5Ghz</LI>
<LI>Four Lifx globes connect to their own cloud, and also to Homekit, with no fuss. &nbsp;Until V2.1.4.16, a couple of Lifx globes connected but, despite bring fixed, wandered between the satellite and the router, but no more, for at least 48 hours.</LI>
</UL>
<P>I have Mac computer hardware, which runs a Mac app called WiFi explorer that shows signal strength and stability amongst other things. &nbsp;In the following snapshot the 2.4Ghz (blue) line shows the strongest signal but is less stable than the rock-solid 5Ghz line. &nbsp;(If I moved closer to the satellite it would rise to the top)&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><IMG src="blob:https://community.netgear.com/09a29e63-67ca-46b7-a665-d1269e7b63aa" border="0" /></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Here's a snapshot of my router config</P>
<P><IMG src="blob:https://community.netgear.com/3944aad7-75e6-4c6b-922d-c0ff1ca5e02b" border="0" /></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 07:10:56 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586988#M33202cheshbr2018-06-08T07:10:56ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587071#M33206
I was having iPhone and iPad issues for a while tried a bunch of stuff . Didn’t work . Finally I bit the bullet took a back up config . Did a factory reset upload clean firmware and applied config back . So far no major issues . I think the issue might be with incremental updates .Fri, 08 Jun 2018 11:00:54 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587071#M33206Dwtk2018-06-08T11:00:54ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587130#M33211
<P>I have tried downloading the file for the RBR50 and RBS50 but it tells me the img file is corrupt and won't let me go any further. Any help on that? Thanks</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 13:11:50 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587130#M33211Kev772018-06-08T13:11:50ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587133#M33212
<P>This router is terrible. I have had nothing but problems with my HomeKit set up. It works fine for me, but my girlfriends phone keeps losing connection whenever she is off the home network. Anyone know of a fix? If I revert back to the previous, will it auto update? I wish I could just return it as I would in a&nbsp;second.</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 13:16:44 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587133#M33212DNichter2018-06-08T13:16:44ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587171#M33225
<P>Try using IE11 or FF browsers to download and manually udpate the Orbi system. Be LAN wired to the router when updgrading FW.</P>
<P>Besure to clear out all browser caches before and after sending the FW file.</P>
<P>I would factory reset the entire Orbi system and set up from scratch.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587071/highlight/true#M33206" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587071/highlight/true#M33206</A></P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="624943"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>I have tried downloading the file for the RBR50 and RBS50 but it tells me the img file is corrupt and won't let me go any further. Any help on that? Thanks</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:09:51 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587171#M33225FURRYe382018-06-08T14:09:51ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587181#M33227
<P>I've downloaded on FF, Chrome, and Edge and get the same result. When I try to mount it, it says its corrupt. When i try to open with Winzip, I get the same result. Surely I'm doing something wrong&nbsp;</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:27:54 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587181#M33227Kev772018-06-08T14:27:54ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587188#M33229
<P>Scratch that, I got it. Thanks for the replies</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:33:22 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587188#M33229Kev772018-06-08T14:33:22ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587212#M33230
<P>What did you do? </P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="624943"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Scratch that, I got it. Thanks for the replies</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 14:55:30 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587212#M33230FURRYe382018-06-08T14:55:30ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587226#M33234
Because the distance between each orbi is too far for the wifi backhaul to reach. With Ethernet backhaul I get a seem less wifimesh. My house is prewired with Ethernet so this was easy to set up.Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:10:03 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587226#M33234e1superman2018-06-08T15:10:03ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587231#M33235
<P>Review this:</P>
<P><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587071/highlight/true#M33206" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587071/highlight/true#M33206</A></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>and <A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586988/highlight/true#M33202" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586988/highlight/true#M33202</A></P>
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<P>Might try disabling MIMO, Daisy Chain and Fast Roaming and test.</P>
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<P>What is the distance beween the router and satellite(s)?</P>
<P>What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the Orbi is connected too?</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="616939"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>This router is terrible. I have had nothing but problems with my HomeKit set up. It works fine for me, but my girlfriends phone keeps losing connection whenever she is off the home network. Anyone know of a fix? If I revert back to the previous, will it auto update? I wish I could just return it as I would in a&nbsp;second.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:19:34 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587231#M33235FURRYe382018-06-08T15:19:34ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587245#M33238
<P>I appreciate the guidance and will definitely take a look, but this shouldn't be this difficult. I have a 2000 saure foot house, router is upstairs in my office and satellite is downstairs in the kitchen. Maybe 35 feet in a straight line. I am using a surfboard arris modem.</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:30:26 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587245#M33238DNichter2018-06-08T15:30:26ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587253#M33240
<P>Ok distance is good.</P>
<P><BR />Any other wifi neighbors near by? If so, how many?</P>
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<P>Whats the model# of the arris modem?</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="616939"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>I appreciate the guidance and will definitely take a look, but this shouldn't be this difficult. I have a 2000 saure foot house, router is upstairs in my office and satellite is downstairs in the kitchen. Maybe 35 feet in a straight line. I am using a surfboard arris modem.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:40:30 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587253#M33240FURRYe382018-06-08T15:40:30ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587258#M33241
<H1 id="title" class="a-size-large a-spacing-none"><SPAN class="a-size-large">ARRIS SURFboard SB6190 32x8 DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem</SPAN></H1>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:43:13 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587258#M33241DNichter2018-06-08T15:43:13ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587260#M33242
<P>No other routers nearby.</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:43:55 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587260#M33242DNichter2018-06-08T15:43:55ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587272#M33245
<P>Let us know if any of the suggestions help.</P>
<P>&nbsp;Also Try using manual channels on 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4ghz. </P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Your SB6190 does have a known issue, however I don't think that would be causing your problems here.</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="616939"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>No other routers nearby.</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 15:58:44 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587272#M33245FURRYe382018-06-08T15:58:44ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587276#M33247
<P>Yea I don't think it's the modem because all was working fine with my old router set up, and on the last firmware. Can I revert to the old firmware or will it auto update? Any suggestions on a router set up where I won't have constant issues?</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 16:01:33 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587276#M33247DNichter2018-06-08T16:01:33ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587284#M33250
<P>Try the suggestions first before atteming to downgrade. </P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="616939"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR />
<P>Yea I don't think it's the modem because all was working fine with my old router set up, and on the last firmware. Can I revert to the old firmware or will it auto update? Any suggestions on a router set up where I won't have constant issues?</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 16:07:08 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587284#M33250FURRYe382018-06-08T16:07:08ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587292#M33252
<P>What suggestions? Nothing is clear on this topic. Try this, maybe that, is there an order to things, what should I try first, try all of them? I need clearer directions in order to do so.</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 16:11:41 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587292#M33252DNichter2018-06-08T16:11:41ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587297#M33254
<P>Review this:</P>
<P><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587071/highlight/true#M33206" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587071/highli...</A></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>and <A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586988/highlight/true#M33202" target="_blank">https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1586988/highli...</A></P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>Might try disabling MIMO, Daisy Chain and Fast Roaming and test.</P>
<P>Set manual channels 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4ghz.</P>
<P>Set WPA2 and AES only.</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>If this still fails, do the factory reset on the router and satellite and setup from scatch as the one user just posted about...</P>
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<P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 16:17:22 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587297#M33254FURRYe382018-06-08T16:17:22ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587315#M33257
<P>The firmware for the Outdoor Orbi RBS50Y is now posted.</P>
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<P>DarrenM</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 16:45:18 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587315#M33257DarrenM2018-06-08T16:45:18ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587332#M33259
<P><SPAN>&nbsp;</SPAN></P>
<DIV class="lia-message-author-with-avatar"><SPAN class="UserName lia-user-name lia-user-rank-Master lia-component-message-view-widget-author-username"><SPAN class=""><A id="link_19" class="lia-link-navigation lia-page-link lia-user-name-link" href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/74881" target="_self">FURRYe38</A>&nbsp;I am curious to know what you have done with the&nbsp;"<SPAN>Mfr and model#" of network switches you keep asking everyone for? Are you providing that to Netgear? If they need it why don't they ask for it instead of having you collect it (unless you work for Netgear)? Do yo know have the database of which switches work and which don't?</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 17:18:10 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587332#M33259psrtx12018-06-08T17:18:10ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587341#M33262
<P>…yeah… I'be been asking this question to myself as well, already. Afaik, no solid switch, be it a managed or unmanged one, should interfere with the Orbi setup. I do have managed an unmanaged switches on my home network and it never did affect my Orbis in any way.</P>
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<P>I'd also be quite reluctant to tell everybody what exact network equipment I am running on my private network - aside from the Orbis, which is of course obvious. <img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.png" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /></P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 17:28:12 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587341#M33262budy2018-06-08T17:28:12ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587364#M33267
<P>Reason for asking for Mfr and Model# of swtiches is to help identify if switches being use are managed or non manged. There have been others reporting problems with Managed switches with Orbi systems. Also have users reporting no problems with non managed switches. Some users don't know how to identify what they have so I ask so I can help them figure that out. One user reported that disabling IGMP protocols on the Managed switch helped him so I've been passing this along as well. Were not data collecting, just trying to help troubleshoot issues seen with managed switches. So asking for switch information isn't a security issue. Valid troubleshooting step is all.</P>
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<P>Users using manages switches should take them out of the mixed while trouble shooting wired back haul issues. Compaire with non managed swiches if one is available. Try disabling IGMP protcols. If this still fails to fix wired back haul problems, you'll need to contact NG support and let them know.</P>
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<P>I 've had ZERO issues with wired back haul while using two non managed switches on my network with the Orbi system I have.</P>Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:19:01 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587364#M33267FURRYe382018-06-08T18:19:01ZRe: Orbi firmware update v2.1.4.16 availabilityhttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587371#M33270
I have a non managed Cisco SG100-16 16-Port Gigabit Switch (SG100-16-NA). My Ethernet backhaul was working fine on 2.1.2.18 but since then every auto upgrade kills the entire network. I have 1 RBR50 router and 2 RBS50 satellites. All are beyond wifi backhaul range and require Ethernet to talk. When I run 2.1.2.18 with Ethernet backhaul my entire home has a clean mesh running. Every week now I need to reflash back to this old firmware to make sure my security system and all other internet based items can work. Ugh, painful.Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:28:59 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-firmware-update-v2-1-4-16-availability/m-p/1587371#M33270e1superman2018-06-08T18:28:59Z