Depending on how Blizzard does DOTA don't expect it to come out any time soon. Might not even be out until late 2013 or beyond. HotS on the other hand is already fairly far into development and close to beta testing.

Everyone is too shocked over the "Call of Duty: Developing the ground-breaking Black Ops II" bit to go past that.

And see, I play FPS games so much that I didn't even know ActiBlizzion had anything to do with Call of Duty >.> Skylanders expansion sounds cool though, I hope they release new Skylanders but also allow us to use the ones we've already accumulated.

Originally Posted by Frankennoob

How dare they include fantastic and mysterious wonders in my fantasy game? All the graphics and story just get in the way of my enjoying optimizing the spreadsheet that defines my character.

[G] [Ravenwake]: I been loot mastered by kerf for so long, I dont know any other way? is it abuse? is it love? who can tell

So now change means the fanboys saying "Omg wow will gain 300k subs" we right?

Awesome logic. Blizzard counts the people who quit 1 month after Scroll as well so this means almost nothing.

If free Cata and Annual pass are needed to keep subs from dropping after 4 months of DS i wonder what they will come up with next quarter?

Free Savior titles and Legendaries?

It's that lull between expansions combined with Cata disappointing. It happens. WoW was losing subs and Blizzard was came up with a plan. It's called smart marketing. And if you want to talk about Blizzard giving away free stuff, what do you call SWTOR giving away a free month for a 6 month old game? What's your excuse for that? Blizzard doing it is bad, but SWTOR doing it is good?

So no change means the fanboys saying "Omg wow will gain 300k subs" were right?

Awesome logic. Blizzard counts the people who quit 1 month after Scroll as well so this means almost nothing.

If free Cata and Annual pass are needed to keep subs from dropping after 4 months of DS i wonder what they will come up with next quarter?

Free Savior titles and Legendaries?

300K? this time next year it'll be 15m more subscribers. Blizzard has always given me every single thing i ever wanted. for every person who hates it, there are 100 who love it, cause Blizzard is the best, and WoW is the greatest game ever made, and it get's better every day! amazing!

- We've seen the MoP beta which caused a massive hype and should have increased the subs, didn't happen though.
- People that had the annual pass still have it.
- People that could stand 4.3 to begin with probably still can.

So sorry to tell you guys, take the hands out of your pants, because you didn't win either.

Why would a beta increase subs for a game where you don't even play what's in the beta in the full game? People aren't going to sub back up for MoP until MoP is actually released.

I would call a steady subscription after Star Wars the Old Republic and the expansion lull a COMPLETE "win".

I got stuck at the part where you would even grasp the thought to compare the subs of a Free to Play MOBA game where you do the same thing over and over again to a $15 a month Pay to Play MMORPG game.

And yet, free to play games tend to make more money and get more growth than pay-to-play games. Nothing is keeping blizzard from going free to play on wow, and it is fair to compare them as the time investment is not all that different nor are the expenses, and the payment model is part of a game, even if it does not directly impact gameplay.

Besides, it's you guys flagging 10 and 15 million subscribers as something huge, or using it as an argument for why wow is a good game. I'm pretty sure that twilight is NOT better than most other movies, regardless of how much money it made or how many people saw it. Hell, by that measure, Avatar is the best movie ever made, and it's not fair to compare it to movies that don't charge you 50% extra for the glasses, or movies that are free to watch.

Fact remains that people are cheering over wow not losing subs, and seem to forget that it has not been the biggest game in the world, or even 2nd biggest game in the world for years.

And you're sitting around your home, maybe jobless (since you brought that up) and reading about games you do not even play, theory crafting and obviously caring about a fantasy world you're actually not a part of?

Lol.

Nah, I'm at work, enjoying my day reading gaming news. Caring and being a passionate rabid fan are two different things. All I've seen today are people obsessed with these numbers, 10.2! 10.2! 10.2! And what the world is theory crafting? Like what's that in realityspeak?

And see, I play FPS games so much that I didn't even know ActiBlizzion had anything to do with Call of Duty >.> Skylanders expansion sounds cool though, I hope they release new Skylanders but also allow us to use the ones we've already accumulated.

Technically Blizzard has nothing to do with Call of Duty, that's all Activision.

Just like Activision has nothing to do with World of Warcraft, all Blizzard.