As for JT Barrett... Don't ever under estimate the strength of a veteran QB in NCAA football. How many titles has 'Bama won with mediocre QBs under center? The key is along the lines and OL is where tOSU really struggled this year, they made many players look bad at tines. Kid was voted captain as a Soph so the players are big believers in him. I look forward to seeing him play another year in Columbus then probably becoming a coach and maybe some day running the show in Columbus.

Have you ever heard about him in the locker room? And he commands respect like Don Corleone when he walks in. At pressers he already sounds like Meyer or Saban. Let this guy lose on the recruiting trail and he will run circles around some of the best in the biz. Only thing he might not be top notch in is Xs and Os but he can leave that up to the geeks like Herman. Now as a QB he has limitations and is probably not a NFL guy but neither was Troy Smith but what does he do these days?

As for JT Barrett... Don't ever under estimate the strength of a veteran QB in NCAA football. How many titles has 'Bama won with mediocre QBs under center? The key is along the lines and OL is where tOSU really struggled this year, they made many players look bad at tines. Kid was voted captain as a Soph so the players are big believers in him. I look forward to seeing him play another year in Columbus then probably becoming a coach and maybe some day running the show in Columbus.

I get the point on Barretts leadership and I accept it's a big factor. But, his inability to accurately throw the ball downfield is a real limitation and opening up the competition for QB is appropriate under the circumstances.

I do disagree with your statement that Bama won with "mediocre" QB's. McCarron is a solid NFL back-up QB who is likely to get a big contract and a shot at starting when his current contract is up. Playing in the NFL means he isn't "mediocre". The better example is Meyer's national title win with Tebow at QB. Now that's a mediocre QB! I suspect that Meyer looks at Barrett like he did Tebow placing a huge amount of value on locker room presence & "leadership".

Barrett is a very good college QB and as others mention his command of the TEAM is excellent. Urban puts him right there with Tebow.

Anyone discrediting Tebow needs their head examined. Heisman and two national titles. Arguably the top college QB in the modern era.

Let me rephrase, as a PASSING QB Tebow was mediocre. IMO of course. I loved the way he played the game and rooted for him to succeed in the NFL but he had a lot of the same limitations that Barrett has when it comes to seeing the field and throwing the ball downfield accurately.

But my main point was that McCarren was NOT a mediocre QB and I would Take AJ over Tebow or Barrett in a heartbeat with respect to passing the football.

Let me rephrase, as a PASSING QB Tebow was mediocre. IMO of course. I loved the way he played the game and rooted for him to succeed in the NFL but he had a lot of the same limitations that Barrett has when it comes to seeing the field and throwing the ball downfield accurately.

But my main point was that McCarren was NOT a mediocre QB and I would Take AJ over Tebow or Barrett in a heartbeat with respect to passing the football.

Makes sense. I still say it is tough to surpass experience and moxy. Hopefully Wilson can do a better job using Barrett's skillset to the Buckeye's advantage.

Wow, amazing how people pile on, especially on JT Barrett, after a loss. I'm not happy as to how he performed late, but the guy has two of the top five passing yardage seasons, the top passing efficiency season, 2 of the top 5 passing yardage seasons and the second highest career per game passing yardage in OSU history, and had the highest career completion percentage coming into the season.

With Barrett, Burrow and Martell, I'm not concerned about the QB position. I'm more concerned with them finding an OC that can run plays to actually get guys open and recruiting some dynamic receivers

In 2014 every time he'd basically do a forward handoff to Jalin or someone else that went for 50 yards he'd get credit for a 50 yard pass completion. But that doesn't mean he can throw the ball downfield.

He knows it too. That's why you see him holding on to the ball forever. He can't throw it unless someone is wide wide open. Then the receivers and o-line end up getting blamed because people can't look objectively at what Barrett really is

In 2014 every time he'd basically do a forward handoff to Jalin or someone else that went for 50 yards he'd get credit for a 50 yard pass completion. But that doesn't mean he can throw the ball downfield.

He knows it too. That's why you see him holding on to the ball forever. He can't throw it unless someone is wide wide open. Then the receivers and o-line end up getting blamed because people can't look objectively at what Barrett really is

Yeah, I think if YAC was separated out of Barrett's passing stats, the result would look pretty sad.

Wow, amazing how people pile on, especially on JT Barrett, after a loss. I'm not happy as to how he performed late, but the guy has two of the top five passing yardage seasons, the top passing efficiency season, 2 of the top 5 passing yardage seasons and the second highest career per game passing yardage in OSU history, and had the highest career completion percentage coming into the season.

With Barrett, Burrow and Martell, I'm not concerned about the QB position. I'm more concerned with them finding an OC that can run plays to actually get guys open and recruiting some dynamic receivers

Did you not watch the games? It seems you did not.

Also, you're forgetting Haskins who may be the best QB on the roster right now.