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HaretThanks for posting this. Joseph, Thanks for keeping unbendable about this request, and know that we users are strongly behind you and any other developers that are pushed to back port or rewrite code for systems that are no longer supported.

Zara, there are some good options for replacing your entire computer setup at a very small cost. If you hope to continue to rely on a computer for one of your connections to the world, it is past time to give up "Old Faithful" and move on.

I live in Massachusetts, and though my current system is still useable, I am about to replace it. Our regional Commission for the Blind AT specialist has already asked if I will donate my current system. He will refurbish it, remove all my data, and prepare it for another user. Not knowing where you live or your circumstances, these options may b available to you. Rather than using energy to ask for reverse engineering, why not ask this incredible list for ideas that will help you get a fresh tech start?Rick

Hi,I told the community, but let me remind you again: NO, NO, NO! Yes, I'm angry, and yes, I mean it: please do not ask the community to email you about feature backports, as that will not happen. Sorry - case closed.

hi,thanks for your message.for several reasons, nvda 2017.3 is the best version and even 2017.2 works very well, and they work very perfect for my need.but, two or three items which are included in newer versions of nvda, i wish to backported to nvda 2017.3, not only for myself, but for the benefit of all users of this versions like me!if someone wants to help me in this regard, please email me!God bless you everyone!

On 3/24/20, abdul muhamin <abdulmuhamin600@...> wrote:

Hi, Zahra, why you don’t update your operating system and the NVDA to the latest versions to solve all your compatibility problems instead of asking support of the old software, you should use the new and fresh peace of software to avoid all the security risks

hi joseph.as i mentioned in my emails, i only need two or three fixed in newer versions of nvda for backporting to the supported versions of nvda on xp.and i promise that my request does not cause nvda crashing or unresponsiveness in any version of windows!my requests are only specific for firefox and contains important fixes which i am sure benefits everyone.

First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while.Evenif you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement, please support each other.

Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP, with many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:

Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, "sorry, no more, period."These include:

Most importantly, I will flatly say "no" if you ask me privately to ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I'm either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.

My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an individual developer to sink in. Note that I'm not speaking on behalf of other developers - others have their own policies regarding support for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a bold statement and say "no" to Windows XP support. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn't announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doors to Windows XP support from my end - once again, this is an individual developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing that others will make statements on their own.

Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph

--By God,were I given all the seven heavenswith all they containin order thatI may disobey Godby depriving an antfrom the husk of a grain of barley,I would not do it.imam ali

--By God,were I given all the seven heavenswith all they containin order thatI may disobey Godby depriving an antfrom the husk of a grain of barley,I would not do it.imam ali

However, the list of features in the recommend addon doesn't seem to include a headers fix.

I'd definitely try contacting the writer of said add-on with a feature request, as clearly it appears that the base code exists and adding to it is in all likelihood fairly easy for additional fields.

I very seldom need to look at message header contents (which is not to say that this should be the case for anyone else) but I tend to use "View Source" and just search when I do.

When playing with NVDA in Thunderbird using the View All setting for headers, along with the Focus Highlight add-on, it looks like NVDA is staying in focus mode on all items as I go through the headers and I can't get it to switch over to browse mode or read the actual header content, just the header label. I am uncertain as to whether this is an NVDA issue or a Thunderbird issue.

However, the list of features in the recommend addon doesn't seem to include a headers fix.

I'd definitely try contacting the writer of said add-on with a feature request, as clearly it appears that the base code exists and adding to it is in all likelihood fairly easy for additional fields.

I very seldom need to look at message header contents (which is not to say that this should be the case for anyone else) but I tend to use "View Source" and just search when I do.

When playing with NVDA in Thunderbird using the View All setting for headers, along with the Focus Highlight add-on, it looks like NVDA is staying in focus mode on all items as I go through the headers and I can't get it to switch over to browse mode or read the actual header content, just the header label. I am uncertain as to whether this is an NVDA issue or a Thunderbird issue.

In Settings, Ease of Access, Keyboard Pane, there are two checkboxes associated with Sticky Keys, the first of which relates to getting or not getting the prompt you describe and the second of which relates to the on/off toggle tone.

But, these are not in the Sticky Keys cluster itself, but in a category at the end of the pane, Make it easier to type. Screen reader searching on Sticky Keys should eventually land you on it.--

I'll have to try later today with my hearing aids to see if this occurs. That being said, are your device drivers absolutely up to date for your sound card on the Win10 machine? That's another thing to check.

Hi,I told the community, but let me remind you again: NO, NO, NO! Yes, I'mangry, and yes, I mean it: please do not ask the community to email youabout feature backports, as that will not happen. Sorry - case closed.

hi,thanks for your message.for several reasons, nvda 2017.3 is the best version and even 2017.2 worksvery well, and they work very perfect for my need.but, two or three items which are included in newer versions of nvda, i wishto backported to nvda 2017.3, not only for myself, but for the benefit ofall users of this versions like me!if someone wants to help me in this regard, please email me!God bless you everyone!

On 3/24/20, abdul muhamin <abdulmuhamin600@...> wrote:

Hi, Zahra, why you don’t update your operating system and the NVDA tothe latest versions to solve all your compatibility problems insteadof asking support of the old software, you should use the new andfresh peace of software to avoid all the security risks

hi joseph.as i mentioned in my emails, i only need two or three fixed in newerversions of nvda for backporting to the supported versions of nvda onxp.and i promise that my request does not cause nvda crashing orunresponsiveness in any version of windows!my requests are only specific for firefox and contains important fixeswhich i am sure benefits everyone.

First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyonelisten to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, includingpublic health officials recommending folks to exercise socialdistancing for a while.Evenif you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands,practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding thepandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is aglobal movement, please support each other.

Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requestsabout NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have includedmaking add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibilityissues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users ofNVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

At the moment there is no community guidance on support for WindowsXP, with many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windowsreleases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor toNVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to makethe following personal announcement:

Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of thefollowing for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, "sorry,no more, period."These include:

Most importantly, I will flatly say "no" if you ask me privately toask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Manyfeatures introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported forvarious reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar errorannouncement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broaderUnicode support, for example), features that will not work properlywith XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longerrecommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broadchanges that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor andmulti-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authorshave indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I'meither maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of themsupport NVDA2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.

My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so thatyou can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as anindividual developer to sink in. Note that I'm not speaking on behalfof other developers - others have their own policies regardingsupport for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link forNVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as Iwanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support,and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment andsoftware releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), Ifelt it is time to make a bold statement and say "no" to Windows XPsupport. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that myadd-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn't announcea statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand thereality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doorsto Windows XP support from my end - once again, this is an individualdeveloper saying this, not on behalf of the community at large,knowing that others will make statements on their own.

Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph

--By God,were I given all the seven heavenswith all they containin order thatI may disobey Godby depriving an antfrom the husk of a grain of barley,I would not do it.imam ali

--By God,were I given all the seven heavenswith all they containin order thatI may disobey Godby depriving an antfrom the husk of a grain of barley,I would not do it.imam ali

I am currently am trying out a new hearing aid called the phonak Marvel. It has Bluetooth and I can connect this to my iPhone, Mac, and Windows 10. however, when i am connected to Windows 10 with NVDA, I have noticed that it have really really bad lag when the screenreader speaks. All first character or word is chopped off. Typing is almost impossible due to it is not spoken. It seems like as soon the TTS stop speaking, it goes into standby. However, my IPhone and mac does not have this problem. I have tried the addon for Bluetooth to stay connected, and I have not noticed a difference.

I am currently am trying out a new hearing aid called the phonak Marvel. It has Bluetooth and I can connect this to my iPhone, Mac, and Windows 10. however, when i am connected to Windows 10 with NVDA, I have noticed that it have really really bad lag when the screenreader speaks. All first character or word is chopped off. Typing is almost impossible due to it is not spoken. It seems like as soon the TTS stop speaking, it goes into standby. However, my IPhone and mac does not have this problem. I have tried the addon for Bluetooth to stay connected, and I have not noticed a difference.

Hi,I told the community, but let me remind you again: NO, NO, NO! Yes, I'm angry, and yes, I mean it: please do not ask the community to email you about feature backports, as that will not happen. Sorry - case closed.

hi,thanks for your message.for several reasons, nvda 2017.3 is the best version and even 2017.2 works very well, and they work very perfect for my need.but, two or three items which are included in newer versions of nvda, i wish to backported to nvda 2017.3, not only for myself, but for the benefit of all users of this versions like me!if someone wants to help me in this regard, please email me!God bless you everyone!

On 3/24/20, abdul muhamin <abdulmuhamin600@...> wrote:

Hi, Zahra, why you don’t update your operating system and the NVDA to the latest versions to solve all your compatibility problems instead of asking support of the old software, you should use the new and fresh peace of software to avoid all the security risks

hi joseph.as i mentioned in my emails, i only need two or three fixed in newer versions of nvda for backporting to the supported versions of nvda on xp.and i promise that my request does not cause nvda crashing or unresponsiveness in any version of windows!my requests are only specific for firefox and contains important fixes which i am sure benefits everyone.

First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while.Evenif you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement, please support each other.

Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP, with many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:

Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, "sorry, no more, period."These include:

Most importantly, I will flatly say "no" if you ask me privately to ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I'm either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.

My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an individual developer to sink in. Note that I'm not speaking on behalf of other developers - others have their own policies regarding support for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.

I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a bold statement and say "no" to Windows XP support. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn't announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doors to Windows XP support from my end - once again, this is an individual developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing that others will make statements on their own.

Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph

--By God,were I given all the seven heavenswith all they containin order thatI may disobey Godby depriving an antfrom the husk of a grain of barley,I would not do it.imam ali

--By God,were I given all the seven heavenswith all they containin order thatI may disobey Godby depriving an antfrom the husk of a grain of barley,I would not do it.imam ali

hi,thanks for your message.for several reasons, nvda 2017.3 is the best version and even 2017.2works very well, and they work very perfect for my need.but, two or three items which are included in newer versions of nvda,i wish to backported to nvda 2017.3, not only for myself, but for thebenefit of all users of this versions like me!if someone wants to help me in this regard, please email me!God bless you everyone!

Hi, Zahra, why you don’t update your operating system and the NVDA to thelatest versions to solve all your compatibility problems instead of askingsupport of the old software, you should use the new and fresh peace ofsoftware to avoid all the security risks

hi joseph.as i mentioned in my emails, i only need two or three fixed in newerversions of nvda for backporting to the supported versions of nvda onxp.and i promise that my request does not cause nvda crashing orunresponsiveness in any version of windows!my requests are only specific for firefox and contains important fixeswhich i am sure benefits everyone.

First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listentoadvice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public healthofficials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while.Evenif you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practicesocial distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic andcommunity spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement,pleasesupport each other.

Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests aboutNVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included makingadd-onscompatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backportingnewer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the lastversioncompatible with Windows XP.

At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP,withmany people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But asanindividual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project,Iwould like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:

Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of thefollowingfor Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, "sorry, no more,period."These include:

Most importantly, I will flatly say "no" if you ask me privately to askNVAccess and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many featuresintroduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for variousreasons,including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, forexample),incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example),features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, forexample),support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express,forexample), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactorand multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authorshave indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I'meithermaintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.

My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that youcan help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as anindividualdeveloper to sink in. Note that I'm not speaking on behalf of otherdevelopers - others have their own policies regarding support for WindowsXP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the lastversioncompatible with Windows XP.

I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wantedfolksto understand that end of support means end of support, and I understandthat many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases(including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make abold statement and say "no" to Windows XP support. In the past, I didnoteon various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not supportWindowsXP, but didn't announce a statement like this then, hoping that folkswillunderstand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially closethedoors to Windows XP support from my end - once again, this is anindividualdeveloper saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowingthatothers will make statements on their own.

Thank you for understanding.

Cheers,

Joseph

--By God,were I given all the seven heavenswith all they containin order thatI may disobey Godby depriving an antfrom the husk of a grain of barley,I would not do it.imam ali

-- By God,were I given all the seven heavenswith all they containin order thatI may disobey Godby depriving an antfrom the husk of a grain of barley,I would not do it.imam ali

hi.i am not sure, because currently i have firefox 45 on my system.and, nvda 2017.3 is the best version of nvda for me!even nvda 2017.2 is very great, and has everythings that i need.but i guess that your issue maybe related to one of these issues on github.

(any enjoyment from the actual page is a bonus). Sometimes refreshingcontent NVDA+f5 works, and sometimes NVDA+ctrl+space works, andsometimes I have to restart NVDA. Pressing tab moves through theelements on the page, but the arrow keys only read the frame content. Itried the new beta, but it also gets stuck. I am running Windows 10. Doother people experience this, or is there some quirk in my setup? Thanks.

Greg

-- By God,were I given all the seven heavenswith all they containin order thatI may disobey Godby depriving an antfrom the husk of a grain of barley,I would not do it.imam ali

What I did notive when visiting that page, using firefox 74, was that it firstly asked for me for permission to know my location, and then to show notifications - both os those might keep hold of focus until dismissed, and, then it seemed to have opened a form of in-page dialogue asking me to subscribe to a corona newsletter, but, when I activated the close button, then it returned to the article mentioned in the page title.

(any enjoyment from the actual page is a bonus). Sometimes refreshing content NVDA+f5 works, and sometimes NVDA+ctrl+space works, and sometimes I have to restart NVDA. Pressing tab moves through the elements on the page, but the arrow keys only read the frame content. I tried the new beta, but it also gets stuck. I am running Windows 10. Do other people experience this, or is there some quirk in my setup? Thanks.

hi quentin.
i downloaded sample audio of your basic training for nvda, and i
really loved it!
i thought that its difficult for me to understand english audio books,
but i listened half of the mp3 files, and thanks God, could understand
most of sentences very easy!

hi quentin.i downloaded sample audio of your basic training for nvda, and ireally loved it!i thought that its difficult for me to understand english audio books,but i listened half of the mp3 files, and thanks God, could understandmost of sentences very easy!

Hi, just like to ask how to change the sounds from TWBlue?I am currently running new versionand liking to use other sound to test. I appreciate if you could give me advice or steps to do it. Thanks a lot.

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