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By: Laurence https://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/2017/09/30/same-sex-marriage-campaign-in-the-bush-takes-to-youtube/#comment-1725431
Tue, 03 Oct 2017 00:25:16 +0000http://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/?p=50966#comment-1725431OK. I admit it I am highly amused by both sides of this debate. The rhetoric for or against and general inability to believe the opposing side has any right to dare mention their beliefs.
I example this by using a line from Mary’s post: “I feel very sorry and sad for all those people who are so conditioned by their believes that they think they have the right to tell us how we should be, behave and vote.” Isn’t that exactly what you were doing in your post?
To denigrate somebody else’s beliefs and morals is not the way to change their opinion, that is usually done by civil debate and discussion. If that doesn’t work then agree to disagree and move on (it’s called maturity in some circles).
I know many people (friends) with deeply held religious convictions, I also have many friends who would quite possibly burst into flames if they entered a church (myself included).
I value all of them but don’t necessarily agree with them on all or any subject matter.
I guess if we stopped being offended by something we disagree with so often we may actually achieve some greater good, but this debate like so many others, is only increasing the rifts in our society.
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By: John Bell https://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/2017/09/30/same-sex-marriage-campaign-in-the-bush-takes-to-youtube/#comment-1725419
Mon, 02 Oct 2017 11:32:19 +0000http://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/?p=50966#comment-1725419Peter. It looks like you have me sorted as a bigoted, born-to-rule white male heterosexual No voter – in no uncertain manner.
To make matters worse, I was also born an Essendon AFL third generation supporter and will go to the death as a True Believer, maintaining the faith in the Mighty Bombers. Your mind is made up. So be it.
However, your comment makes me wonder what your moral judgment is of a No voter who happens not to be white (eg Vaughan) or neither white nor male (eg Theresa)?
Do they have any redeeming qualities as No voters, or are we all No vote bigots with no empathy etc? How do you rationalise their No vote views?
I ask these questions in good faith. I am genuinely curious to learn your thoughts.
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By: Peter https://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/2017/09/30/same-sex-marriage-campaign-in-the-bush-takes-to-youtube/#comment-1725410
Mon, 02 Oct 2017 05:40:34 +0000http://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/?p=50966#comment-1725410@2 John Bell: Because equality of rights is about white heterosexual men giving the same privileges only to other white heterosexual men. You might call that equality, but the 21st century has a new term for it: Bigotry.
You lack empathy, basically. You can have all the world at your feet to plunder, but it is denied to others for any glittery reason you care to wrap it around in.
Fortunately, Jesus wasn’t a bigot – he devoted big chunks of his time to surround himself with the disadvantaged of the day and to call out their plight.
He only wanted followers that supported his empathy and compassion. He wasn’t interested in the others and called them out as such. I’m VERY aware which platform he would be standing on today.
Live in the knowledge that you consider some of the people who you call “friends” as inferior to you. Some friend you are.
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By: Mary https://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/2017/09/30/same-sex-marriage-campaign-in-the-bush-takes-to-youtube/#comment-1725395
Sun, 01 Oct 2017 23:55:32 +0000http://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/?p=50966#comment-1725395Like if marriage was still about religion … Come on! How many hetero couples are still getting married in a church for religion reasons. Seriously.
Loving someone else, same sex or not is not about culture. Repressing people who are trying to be themselves has always been the biggest battle of religions and it is anything but human.
I feel very sorry and sad for all those people who are so conditioned by their believes that they think they have the right to tell us how we should be, behave and vote.
Those days some people are so busy caring for others’ business that they forget to deal with their own shit and this is the big issue.
Maybe look at your own soul first and check what this situation is triggering INSIDE you instead of projecting your fears, anger and ignorance on others and manipulate the world.
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By: John Bell https://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/2017/09/30/same-sex-marriage-campaign-in-the-bush-takes-to-youtube/#comment-1725319
Sat, 30 Sep 2017 12:04:52 +0000http://www.alicespringsnews.com.au/?p=50966#comment-1725319Vaughan, Malcolm, Theresa and Steve. I would like to say thank you for speaking out to vote No. Please be aware that voting No exposes you to being called a homophobe and a bigot. You will be seen as a weirdo bigoted heterosexual in today’s new world. Don’t be afraid. You know in your heart that you are not what they say you are. You no doubt have gay friends, like I do. We believe what we believe. When the Yes vote wins the day we will not be in the majority. Stay true to yourself. You must keep the faith in the face of the vitriol you will cop. That’s life.
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