Why on earth would a kung-fu movie not do well at the box office?
Okay, we're not talking blockbuster material, clearly, but kung fu flicks are a staple of action movies and virtually every action star since the 1960s has done at least a stint or three in them.

Still, if Marvel was even remotely serious about Shang-Chi (given IMDB's poor credibility, I strongly doubt this), I'd think it'd be a lot more wise to roll up all the '70s B-movie action flick superhero types into a proper Heroes for Hire movie or TV show, where they belong: Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, White Tiger.

Why on earth would a kung-fu movie not do well at the box office?
Okay, we're not talking blockbuster material, clearly, but kung fu flicks are a staple of action movies and virtually every action star since the 1960s has done at least a stint or three in them.

Still, if Marvel was even remotely serious about Shang-Chi (given IMDB's poor credibility, I strongly doubt this), I'd think it'd be a lot more wise to roll up all the '70s B-movie action flick superhero types into a proper Heroes for Hire movie or TV show, where they belong: Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Misty Knight, Colleen Wing, White Tiger.

i disagree. i think they should devote a phase to movies like this (Punisher, Daredevil, Shang Chi, Iron Fist, and Luke). but i don't think a Heroes for Hire movie (like you're describing) would work. they could get away with a crossover of Iron Fist and Luke Cage; after presenting both solo properties. but i think it'd be wrongheaded to try to shoehorn Shang into the Heroes for Hire mold. he's not a hired hero. he's a secret agent. he has a cast of his own and an agenda. Misty could appear first in Cage's movie (and maybe even as a linking character in Daredevil and/or Punisher as part of the NYPD). Colleen could appear in Iron Fist; as the daughter of a professor researching Kunlun. and then those two could meet and team up in the Iron Fist/Cage crossover. but that's just how i would do it.

i disagree. i think they should devote a phase to movies like this (Punisher, Daredevil, Shang Chi, Iron Fist, and Luke). but i don't think a Heroes for Hire movie (like you're describing) would work. they could get away with a crossover of Iron Fist and Luke Cage; after presenting both solo properties. but i think it'd be wrongheaded to try to shoehorn Shang into the Heroes for Hire mold. he's not a hired hero. he's a secret agent. he has a cast of his own and an agenda. Misty could appear first in Cage's movie (and maybe even as a linking character in Daredevil and/or Punisher as part of the NYPD). Colleen could appear in Iron Fist; as the daughter of a professor researching Kunlun. and then those two could meet and team up in the Iron Fist/Cage crossover. but that's just how i would do it.

We won't be seeing any of the more violent hardcore heroes til at least 2020 if even then. And I think Marvel would introduce Luke Cage and Iron Fist together as Heroes for Hire if they did a movie first. The only way I could see them introduced separately is if they introduced them on the S.H.I.E.L.D. show.

i disagree. i think they should devote a phase to movies like this (Punisher, Daredevil, Shang Chi, Iron Fist, and Luke). but i don't think a Heroes for Hire movie (like you're describing) would work. they could get away with a crossover of Iron Fist and Luke Cage; after presenting both solo properties. but i think it'd be wrongheaded to try to shoehorn Shang into the Heroes for Hire mold. he's not a hired hero. he's a secret agent. he has a cast of his own and an agenda. Misty could appear first in Cage's movie (and maybe even as a linking character in Daredevil and/or Punisher as part of the NYPD). Colleen could appear in Iron Fist; as the daughter of a professor researching Kunlun. and then those two could meet and team up in the Iron Fist/Cage crossover. but that's just how i would do it.

Ideally, my dream scenario would be for Marvel to create a TV-MA cable series for Heroes for Hire with Cage and Rand as the core characters, and a rotating ensemble of other "Marvel Knights," including Daredevil, Moon Knight, Punisher, Blade and even Ghost Rider with recurring (albeit not truly permanent) roles.

Yeah, Marvel can make lower budget movies for street heroes like Shang Chi, Cage, Iron Fist, Daredevil etc. Most of these could be done for 20-30 million.

That was originally part of Marvel Studios' plan, according to Avi back before the Avengers came out. They planned to release "small" budget (20-30 million) films in addition to the blockbuster range of 150(ish) million budgets. So far, that strategy has never been realized; and it's a damn shame, considering how many great street-level heroes Marvel has on the shelf gathering dust --- Daredevil, Punisher, Ghost Rider, Blade, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Moon Knight, Cloak & Dagger, Elektra...

That was originally part of Marvel Studios' plan, according to Avi back before the Avengers came out. They planned to release "small" budget (20-30 million) films in addition to the blockbuster range of 150(ish) million budgets. So far, that strategy has never been realized; and it's a damn shame, considering how many great street-level heroes Marvel has on the shelf gathering dust --- Daredevil, Punisher, Ghost Rider, Blade, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Shang-Chi, Moon Knight, Cloak & Dagger, Elektra...

Agreed. The Raid had a budget of 1 million. If you make a Shang Chi movie of that caliber and slap the Marvel logo on it, you could be looking at a very profitable movie.

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I would generally agree. However, I think Shang Chi would be a little easier to adapt, in a "do it quick and cheap" sense. Iron Fist would require a great deal more effort, because there are more ( and more fantastic ) necessary mythos efforts. Plus the tone being really critical to get right.