You should be running test as the base of all AAS cycles so yes you need to add it. I'm not a fan of Winstrol (winny). Hard on joints and lipids. A test cycle and proper diet will do all that Winstrol (winny) can and more. But if you insist, then you absolutely need to add the test. Even better is get another 10ml and run 500mg for the ten weeks to make it worth using.

cheers guys thanks for the input i cannot get anymre test e...wich is really crap i have 20ml of sus 250??? plus dbol and Winstrol (winny) umm so should i just run the test e at 1ml a week for 10 weeks??? diet is on point as is training thing is im planning on using sus250 ar 500mg/week and dbol at 30-50mg a day for weeks 1-4...help guys need help LOL il jest run the test starting 2morro then start the Winstrol (winny) next week fisnish the Winstrol (winny) in 6 weeks then run test for the remainder 4 weeks then start sus and dbol OMG IM ALL OVER THE PLACE HELP ME MAN

fuck it guys....il run stan on its own get rid of the test e....6weeks on Winstrol (winny) only 2 weeks off with a pct then onto my clean bulking...cycle dbol and sus what pct could i use in that 2 week should it be agressive???

Stann , if you have 20ml of Sustanon (sust), I would just save the test for another cycle when you can get more. I would run the Sustanon (sust) at 500, use the dbol as a kicker maybe 35mg ed,for a 3to4 weeks,and finish the last. 6 Weeks with Winstrol (winny) right up to the day before you start pct...just my :02

Stan you are all over the place bro. We gave you exact advice on how to run it. Test is test so between Sustanon (sust) and E you have 30ml. You can either run Sustanon (sust) now at 500mg a week then add your Winstrol (winny) at the end with your dbol start.

Why would you run Winstrol (winny) solo. Never use any AAS without test.

userat204 sorry for being all over the place im currently dieting now wich my head is gone LOL (i diet really hard) and its 5am in oz and im not sleeping much...so if i start sus now and throw my Winstrol (winny) in at the 6th week finish on that then start straight on dbol and tes e il be able to get some test e by then so something like this

Stann, your all over the place again.
Weeks 1-10 Sustanon (sust) 250mg on Monday 250mg on Thursday
weeks1-4 dbol 35-50 mg ed split in 3 doses daily
week 7 start the Winstrol (winny) run it for 6 weeks yes that means for three weeks after your last Sustanon (sust) inject
then stop everything and begin pct
Also consider running adex at :05 mg eod to combat bloat and sides, that's optional but never a bad idea when running dbol...hope that's clear man!!! Save the test for your next cycle try to score a 20ml vial and then you will have an awesome base for your next cycle as test should be ran for at least 12 weeks imo

LOL way to go big fella...ppl rant and rave about toxic this toxic that this not good that not good meanwhile they drink they smoke they take drugs ect ppl ae on medication for things that damage there liver.....and stuff..and have to get bloods done every 2 weeks and they are on this for the rest of there live but the doc priscribed this??? so that is toxic think of it being say 16 taking meds that need bloods done every 2 weeks wtf