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Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

Originally Posted by b-ball-lunachick

I love this kid..I have been calling him "my Nova" since he came up. I have never used the word moxie before I set eyes on this kid but he has that -- he's got a bit of swagger without being a jerk and I knew the bad spring would not deter him when he started last night. I'm so happy for him (and us) that he was so effective last night.

Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

Originally Posted by b-ball-lunachick

I love this kid..I have been calling him "my Nova" since he came up. I have never used the word moxie before I set eyes on this kid but he has that -- he's got a bit of swagger without being a jerk and I knew the bad spring would not deter him when he started last night. I'm so happy for him (and us) that he was so effective last night.

I said the same thing last year - he does not get rattled and he is all business. Glad I was able to see this game. He showed us another gear last night.

Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

Believe me, the term "moxie" hasn't been used so much in one household as it was last night. You'd think she owned the term.

What pleased me last night, was the way Nova cruised without really dominating. He looked in control without me thinking this is him at his best. You may say he showed us another gear last night but I very much doubt this was the highest gear he has. I'm always concerned when someone uses only two pitches because I worry what will happen when one of those is off. Nova has a slider, and a change, so this usual worry simply isn't there.

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Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

Is it just me or does nova remind u guys of a right handed, slightly poor version of a young andy pettite? Non over powering stuff, 6 k/9, 3bb/9, similar gamer demeanor on mound, dependable streak stopper?

Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

Originally Posted by ober0n98

Is it just me or does nova remind u guys of a right handed, slightly poor version of a young andy pettite? Non over powering stuff, 6 k/9, 3bb/9, similar gamer demeanor on mound, dependable streak stopper?

Wonder why nobody has made this comparison yet

Is this just me?

With his slider and curve and the fact he can dial it up to 96 on both his 2 and 4 seamer I won't be surprised if he increases his K/9 ratio to 7.5-8 or so

40 pitchers, ever, have an ERA+ of 130 or higher for their career. 15 have 140 or higher. 3 guys have 150 or higher - one is right at 150, the second place guy is at 154, and Mariano Rivera is at 205.

Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

My feelings have not changed about this young super star, who seems to always shine when he takes the mound. Oh yes this kid can pitch, and he keeps getting better. His fastball remains in the mid to high 90's, and he's fearless out there throwing strikes and putting batters away. He's as good as he sounds, and usually gives the Yankees a great effort an a chance to win.

This young man will be lethal when he finally perfects his secondary pitches, but for now he should do just fine with what he's got. An just to top things off he's tall and good looking which will always add to a players star power.

Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

Originally Posted by ober0n98

Is it just me or does nova remind u guys of a right handed, slightly poor version of a young andy pettite? Non over powering stuff, 6 k/9, 3bb/9, similar gamer demeanor on mound, dependable streak stopper?

Wonder why nobody has made this comparison yet

Is this just me?

Had never thought about that but I can see where you are coming from. I was just thinking the other night that we're expecting Andy to be successful without a 90mph fastball nor an off speed killer pitch - although by all accounts, his slider was one of the most effective pitches during his last two years. Nova clearly throws harder at this point in their careers but I do now see a few similarities.

Originally Posted by NoodleRay

My feelings have not changed about this young super star, who seems to always shine when he takes the mound. Oh yes this kid can pitch, and he keeps getting better. His fastball remains in the mid to high 90's, and he's fearless out there throwing strikes and putting batters away. He's as good as he sounds, and usually gives the Yankees a great effort an a chance to win.

This young man will be lethal when he finally perfects his secondary pitches, but for now he should do just fine with what he's got. An just to top things off he's tall and good looking which will always add to a players star power.

I'm not willing to call him a "super star" yet simply because he hasn't done it for long enough yet, nor is he striking out ridiculous sums of hitters. Nevertheless, he is a fine example of what can happen when you give young players a chance. I hope we learn from this and give Baneulos and other young hurlers time. Our biggest mistakes over the past few years include cutting short both Hughes and Joba's starting opportunities.

Anyway, back to Nova. I'm looking for 200 innings and an ERA around the high 3s this year. If he does that then The superstar tag might be in his future.

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Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

I still love this kid. He went six innings of 4 run ball.I don't know why but I am still impressed by that. This kid really impresses me every time he went out. He was sick? I don't remember hearing that. I thought it was just one of those games. Anyone know what Hughes excuse is for going 3 innings of 6 run ball?

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Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

Originally Posted by JohnnyDamonfan

I still love this kid. He went six innings of 4 run ball.I don't know why but I am still impressed by that. This kid really impresses me every time he went out. He was sick? I don't remember hearing that. I thought it was just one of those games. Anyone know what Hughes excuse is for going 3 innings of 6 run ball?

Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

Originally Posted by JohnnyDamonfan

I still love this kid. He went six innings of 4 run ball.I don't know why but I am still impressed by that. This kid really impresses me every time he went out. He was sick? I don't remember hearing that. I thought it was just one of those games. Anyone know what Hughes excuse is for going 3 innings of 6 run ball?

I suppose there is something to be said for "limiting the damage" but his line translates to a 6 ERA. The offense essentially bailed him out.

Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

Originally Posted by NelsonMuntz

I suppose there is something to be said for "limiting the damage" but his line translates to a 6 ERA. The offense essentially bailed him out.

It's hard to say. It's not like he gave up 4 runs and then the offense scored 8. He was pitching with an 8-1 lead, and sometimes (especially in this era of micromanaged pitch counts) pitchers pitch to the score.

I guess you could criticize Nova from having a somewhat elevated pitch count in the first place.

Re: 2012 Ivan Nova Performance Thread

Originally Posted by sweet_lou_14

It's hard to say. It's not like he gave up 4 runs and then the offense scored 8. He was pitching with an 8-1 lead, and sometimes (especially in this era of micromanaged pitch counts) pitchers pitch to the score.

I guess you could criticize Nova from having a somewhat elevated pitch count in the first place.

What concerns me is the number of hard hit balls, line drives and fly balls in general. When he is on he's getting a lot of soft groundball outs. By no means am I trying to sound like an alarmist. I just didn't love what I saw from Nova last night. To your point, perhaps he was simply "pitching to the score".