I actually don't care that it's not a new design since I always have a case on the phone. I also don't care about the bezel, since when I'm viewing my phone I am looking at the viewable screen and don't notice the bezel anyway.

I don't think I've ever looked at someone's phone at thought "that's an ugly phone!". But I have looked at cases and through "omg, what were they thinking" LOL.

I care. The iPhone 8 Plus form factor is terrible. The phone is way too wide. It's a very heavy smartphone. The bezels are too big. The design isn't just about what the back of the phone looks like with a case on - that's a very superficial way of looking at it ;-) A case actually makes the ergonomics worse, because it makes the phone:

1. Heavier
2. Taller
3. Even Wider

No reasonable person looks at anyone's phone and thinks it's ugly, because they don't care what anyone else's phone looks like. I'm not paying for their phone, so I only care that the purchase I'm making is a fit ergonomic and aesthetic choice for myself. What the rest of the world buys is their own business. I want to feel like I got my money's worth when I look at my phone...

Not like I traded my phone in for an exchange iPhone 6 Plus.

Apple tries to brand their devices like luxury fashion accessories these days... Not sure how anyone would feel if Manolo Blahnik trotted out basically the same shoe design on the runway 4 years in a row. My guess is that people would be over it at that point, and it would be panned by almost everyone.

If that's the road they wish to take, then they need to get their "vision" in line with their rhetoric.

Heh. I'm a mom. I carried two babies on my hip and in my arms for quite some time. They weigh much more than a cell phone. If I began whining about how heavy they were people would tell me, well, they'd tell me to stop whining.

Originally Posted by n8ter#AC

The bezels are too big.

Not for me.

Originally Posted by n8ter#AC

The design isn't just about what the back of the phone looks like with a case on - that's a very superficial way of looking at it ;-)

That would mean that I care about what the phone looks like. I don't.

Originally Posted by n8ter#AC

A case actually makes the ergonomics worse, because it makes the phone:

For you, not for me.

Originally Posted by n8ter#AC

I only care that the purchase I'm making is a fit ergonomic and aesthetic choice for myself. What the rest of the world buys is their own business.

Same here. I posted about what I like and what I care/don't care about, not what anyone else likes or cares about because like you said, what the rest of the world buys is their own business.

I always like when people say the phone is heavy. Seriously. It’s a phone. How heavy can it be. It’s not a cinder block. “HEAVY”. Lol. Cracks me up every time. It’s not just Apple users. Even android users. A new device comes out and all of of sudden the old one was so heavy. Lol

I always like when people say the phone is heavy. Seriously. It’s a phone. How heavy can it be. It’s not a cinder block. “HEAVY”. Lol. Cracks me up every time. It’s not just Apple users. Even android users. A new device comes out and all of of sudden the old one was so heavy. Lol

I'm late here. But just wanted to add that people complain when the phone gets lighter and sacrifices battery then they complain about it getting "heavier".