Last week I spoke to a friend about the future of Eurasia being shaped by Russia and China. We had never talked about politics before, maybe a bit about Trump and “those crazy Americans” and mostly joked about those things.

At some point, our conversation turned serious. My friend is Chinese, so we talked about our nations’ common future. Using my friend’s words, we both saw the unlimited opportunities for our children, our rules on our lands to have a life of unmatched before success coupled with the social fairness, stability, and security based on Eastern technologies, science, and culture that never been allowed to fully florish under the tyranny of a handful of the Western nations.

After centuries of dominance, the power of the West is waning. We are looking for the next five to ten centuries of Eastern civilization to be prevalent inside and around our ‘Eurasian fortress.’ It’s going to be beautiful, peaceful, stable and absolutely magnificent in its unlimited possibilities in development of the human mind and spirit.

Those nations who manage to grab China’s and Russia’s sleeve, will do great for themselves. Their children, their cultures will have future. Those nations who congregate around the United State will most likely be eaten by it, in its parasitic urge to sustain itself by devouring others.

Jack Ma, one of the founders of Alibaba, discussed globalization on capital and labor, that while the idea of the American companies outsourcing jobs was good because it helped the middle class and market to grow in Asia, and while the companies received billions dollars in revenue, they never reinvested into the American workers and let the American industries collapse. Instead, they spent the money on wars.

If you check in on the Pentagon’s 20-year plan, you immediately recognize what’s happening now and why. After all, the Pentagon has only 10 years to destabilize Europe by turning some of its countries into failed states while leaving others in desperate states of civil chaos so as to “need” American military intervention.

That’s why countries who are stronger and more independent, are actively trying to reach for Russia and China to be included into the Eurasian fortress, like Germany and France.

Anna Fotyga made a report in which she presented her plan to fight with online propaganda by “terrorist organizations and countries like Russia” (sic!) that in her opinion aimed to incite fear and divide Europe. In her political views she stands for a strong and independent Poland inside the EU, aligned with the US and opposed to Germany and Russia, or as it’s commonly known, to be an American shill in the EU.

According to Fotyga, the main source of “fear and division” in Europe was not an American plan to weaken European and to collapse civil societies by 2028 as its stated in the Pentagon 20 year plan. Anna Fotyga found that the main threat to the European civilization is the existence of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian state, especially if it’s strong, independent and not aligned with the US.

A year later, the US Parliament votes to declare the RT a foreign agent and to ban its broadcast. The ISIS threat disappeared from their agenda. In fact, it’s not being mentioned at all anymore.

Something else keeps turning up like a bad penny.

In a recent article of the globalist Robert D. Kaplan titled The Problem with “The Best of Intentions Foreign Policy,” he writes that: “The tragedy of American foreign policy is seen when the intention to improve human rights leads to war and chaos.” Hilariously, he says that in the case of Syria, “a humanitarian and strategic nightmare there has ensued without our intervention.”

Kaplan wants us to believe that the individuals and groups of people who trained, armed, and financed armies of terrorists, and used them against the national governments of Lybia, Syria, and Iraq, did so because they were morally superior.

“The people I know who supported the Iraq War genuinely intended the human-rights situation in Iraq to be improved by the removal of Saddam Hussein, not made worse through war and chaos. The group of policymakers who supported the Libya campaign genuinely thought that by toppling the regime of Muammar el-Qaddafi a humanitarian catastrophe in Benghazi would be averted and the country as a whole would benefit. Instead, Libya collapsed into anarchy with many more thousands of casualties the consequence. The people who supported an early intervention to topple the regime of Bashar al-Assad, or at least limit the suffering in Syria, genuinely thought they were in both the moral and strategic right.”

It’s not America’s fault that those societies collapsed after being pounded into the sand by thousands of bombs. Therefore, it’s their own fault.

“The truth is that American power can do many things, but fixing complex and populous Muslim societies on the ground is not one of them: witness Iraq and Libya.”

“America’s own greatness requires the constant search for truth in war.”

“… the interests of humanity can in quite a few circumstances coincide with the interests of state. But it cannot do so all the time, or else we would be intervening everywhere, and that would not be sustainable. And yet just because you cannot intervene everywhere does not mean you cannot intervene, consistent with your interests, somewhere.”

In essence, Kaplan, in his short article waves goodbye to all those “human rights” issues that only lead to “to war and chaos.”

But, if it’s not “human rights,” what would be their new excuse for invasion, raping, pillaging and looting the rest of the world, also known as the non-West?

It’s going to be “moral,” “ethic” and “truth.”

Here comes the Dalai Lama.

Regardless of how you see him, as a CIA operative, a NATO promoter, a globalist agent, he still has some undue influence on some people. For those who strongly disagreed with me last time, I am writing about this particular Dalai Lama. I will change my mind, if we are presented with a Dalai Lama from Russia or China, who actually lives in Russia or China.

So, he went to Riga, Latvia, to mingle with the liberal scum in exile from Russia congregating there, since none of them are allowed to enter Russia.

There, in Riga, one of the capitals of a large NATO base, he delivered a speech, unveiling a new “dog whistle” for the post-human rights epoch. It’s called “the moral values.”

“Lessons of moral values should be introduced everywhere. They should be organized with reliance not on religion, but on common sense, universal values and research data,” the Dalai Lama said.

In his “Teachings for Russia” he revealed a tactic, which can help to “reduce outrage within Russia” and to “help” people in Russia to become more spiritual, to care about each other more. “This is connected to an education system that is oriented toward material values. There must be lessons of spiritual, moral values, kindness,” he said about his teaching plans.

So, be prepared. The Dalai Lama is going to brainwash your children with his special kind of “morality.”

He doesn’t mention that the NATO presence on Russia’s borders is immoral. From this point of view, this situation is moral. He even dreams about the NATO headquarters being located in Moscow.

The Dalai Lama is perfectly Western in his Russophobia. In his mind, Russians are too “competitive” and “egocentric,” which is absurd. He claims that in Russia, “People are lacking care about each other.” It’s a lie, of course, but that’s how he sees us through the eyes of his Western moral superiority. He doesn’t criticize the claims of the American exceptionalism, and doesn’t offer to teach American children some morals

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In practice, people, and organizations existing on and around Buddhism are anything but, moral or spiritual.

The Center has been situated in the beautiful historic Lopuhin Manor in the very center of Moscow, build in XVII in classicist style ever since the globalists imposed on us their regime with the code name “perestroika and glasnost” that resulted in ten million people in Russia perishing in just ten years of hunger, cold, lack of medicine, wars and ethnic cleansing disguised as “movements for independence.”

The Museum of Oriental Art refused to hand the paintings over to a bunch of con artists and a legal battle commenced. The Museum reasonably claimed that they purchased and received the paintings from the artist back in 1960s and 1970s. They won the case, although 40 paintings have been lost.

Then the Roerich Center started a legal battle for the Lopuhin Mansion, which was legal property of the city of Moscow. They lost again. Then they sued the TV journalist Solovyev for calling them “a cult.” Their lawsuit was dismissed after Solovyev proved that he used a definition given to the Roerich Center by the Patriarch Alexy II.

Need I mention that the center’s world headquarter is located in New York City?

Since these people claim Buddhism as their spiritual foundation, one would think that the Dalai Lama would explain to them how immoral and materialistic they are. One would be wrong.

You see, from globalists like the Dalai Lama and Robert Kaplan, democracy, freedom, and wisdom can only exist with a free use by them of Russian labor, treasures, lands, historical buildings, and mineral resources. The moment Russians ask for money in return, they are being labeled as immoral, undemocratic, competitive, and materialistic.

How do the globalists plan to deal with the competitive and materialistic Russia, besides demanding access to the Russian children, outside of the parents and the Church influence?

With the threat of wars, of course.

Somehow the Pentagon and Washington understood that the Great Patriotic War has been a psychological trauma for generations. They decided that if they recreate the same geo-political situation with the sanctions and armies built-up on the borders, the Russians would have such a strong emotional response to this threat of a new war with thirty or sixty countries, that the Russians would surrender without a fight.

NATO will build two US naval bases right on the border with Russia. Add to this a naval base in the historical Russian town Ochakov in Ukraine, 150 kilometers from the Russian borders, and you understand how the docile Black Sea suddenly turns into one of the most militarized zones on earth.

Gruzia shares the borders with Russia, Iran, and Turkey, which provides the Pentagon with an unrestricted opportunity to target these countries with biological and chemical weapons, with the trained terrorists and saboteur groups, with the surveillance, and other means.

According to the Western sources, Baku reacts badly to the blames and an escalating pressure for its “human rights violations.” Whenever the “human rights violations” are being brought up by Washington, it’s an indication to the national governments that Washington targets this country for destabilization, invasion and war.

Azerbaijan is also on the list of the countries that will become “the operational environment” for the Pentagon according to its 20 year plan.

This statement contradicted a confessions posted by the DefenseOne just days prior that the Pentagon simply was unable to shoot down the North Korean missiles, or, in fact, any other missiles: No, We Cannot Shoot Down North Korea’s Missiles

“… reporters routinely use words like “shield” and “dome” to describe our supposed capability, giving us a false sense of security.

“If North Korea cooperated and shot their new intercontinental ballistic missile, the Hwasong-14, at the United States with adequate warning so that we could prepare, and if the warhead looked pretty much like we expect it to look, and if they only shot one, and if they did not try to spoof the defense with decoys that looked like the warhead, or block the defense with low-power jammers, or hide the warhead in a cloud of chaff, or blind the defense by attacking the vulnerable radars, then, maybe this is true. The United States might have a 50-50 chance of hitting such a missile.”

“Our anti-missile systems have never been realistically tested against any of these simple countermeasures. “

This is one reason that the Pentagon’s current director of operational testing is much more cautious in his assessments than missile defense program officials. “GMD has demonstrate a limited capability to defend the U.S. Homeland from small numbers of simple intermediate-range or intercontinental ballistic missile threats launched from North Korea or Iran,” he reports. Moreover, it is impossible, he says, to “quantitatively assess GMD performance due to lack of ground tests” and “the reliability and availability of the operational GBI’s [Ground-Based Interceptors] is low, and the MDA continues to discover new failure modes during testing.”

Since the US is not capable to defend itself, it keeps orchestrating sneaky attacks on the stability and wellbeing of its enemies and its allies, alike.

Azerbaijan is on the list of the countries to be hit by bespoke color revolution, but instead it’s Spain who gets it.

Maidan In Spain

LLibertat Paisos Catalanas – Freedom to Catalan countries

The Catalan justice minister, Germà Gordó, stated that citizens of these areas would be offered Catalan passports and nationality. ‘Greater ‘Catalonia’, or as the Catalan nationalists refer to it, the ‘Paises Catalanes.

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Other Catalan countries include the Spanish regions of Catalonia, Valencia, the Balearic Islands and parts of Aragon, as well as Roussillon in France, the Principality of Andorra, and the islands of Sicily and Sardinia, and the Greek Athens and Neopatria.

The French head of state—whether king, emperor, or president— serves as a co-prince of the Principality of Andorra.

So, France might lose its control over Andora, if Catalans declare their independence there.

Following the so called “Madrid Pacts,” USA manage to install military bases in Spain and close the clamp on the Mediterranean sea.

The agreement was show to the public by the fascist regime of General Franco as a model of mutual aid, military and economic, between “two powers”. USA secret clauses reserved the unilateral initiative and use of the facilities. USA kept the space under American laws.

According to the Pentagon’s 20 year plan, discussed here, the Americans have just ten years to organized a controlled demolition of the European societies, to the point when the American troops will be needed to restore the civilian order and to control the civil unrest. To be able to bring the armies of the jihadists into Europe, the US wants the control over the border of Spain facing the North Africa and the control over the Balearies islands.

It also lets the US to close the Mediterranean Sea for the Russian fleet on its route from the Baltic Sea to its base in Syria.

There is a strong sense that the Catalan independence movement has been organized and funded by the same people who organized and funded Ukrainian Maidan, and the Kurds independence movement. They even use the same song.

“Cuando todos estamos juntos somos invencibles”

(“Разом нас багато, нас не подолати…”)

Greenjolly represented Ukraine at the 2005 Eurovision Song Contest in Kyiv with the song Razom Nas Bahato {Many of us together, we are undefeatable. Revolution is on…)

Catalonia protests footage that will make you feel like you are back on Maidan in Kiev of 2014.

At 0:48 they show black-and-red flags of the Right Sector Ukrainian extremist nationalists party and its illegal punitive armed formations.

At 0:55 a footage of young “protesters” jumping up and down, just like the Ukrainian extremists jumped up and down on Maidan screaming “Knife the Russians” and “Mosclyaky na golyaku” meaning “Hang Russians.”

At 1:06 a national extremists red-and-black flag, again.

It’s clearly that no one in Catalan consulted an international law attorney, who would tell those who carry the eternal “rallying cry for Western tribalism,” like Catalonia, The Basque, the Scots, the ‘Padania’, and the list goes on.

Five years ago, Joseph Weiler, an Editor-in-Chief of the European Journal of International Law, wrote a short essay explaining how the Catalan independence is not protected by the international law and why.

An opinion expressed by Joseph Weiler is today even more interesting, since among many hats he wears one of the Co-Director of the Tikvah Center for Law & Jewish Civilization, Weiler is President of the European University Institute in Florence. He also University Professor of Law and European Union Jean Monnet Chair at New York University School of Law where he is Director of the Straus Institute for the Advanced Study of Law & Justice, and Co-Director of the Tikvah Center for Law & Jewish Civilization. He is also Editor in Chief of ICON – the International Journal of Constitutional Law.

What he really says is that the government of Spain has to show its “fascist” side for Catalonia to gain some “moral” grounds to claim its “independence.”

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We know that no color revolution can succeed without the central government being complicit in it and without an outside assistance.

Don’t get too emotional and don’t get fooled by the “police brutality” footage, unless you absolutely know that it’s authentic and wasn’t filmed a month ago in Latvia with the crisis actors, like it was the case with the White Helmets videos, and many other cases of fake videos to trigger your compassion.

The Cheniere, an Americasn company, has failed to fulfill its agreement with Spain. It managed to deliver only 300 million cubic meters, instead of 4.9 billion cubic meters per year, as agreed.

“Russian fuel will account for 12 percent of all gas consumed in Spain, Russian media reports.

Spanish natural gas utilities company Gas Natural Fenosa signed a liquefied natural gas (LNG) contract in November 2016 worth over 30 billion euros with Russia’s Yamal LNG, which is planning to launch a gas liquefying facility beyond the Arctic Circle in 2017.

Deliveries of Russian LNG to Spain are expected in the second quarter of 2018, Interfax news agency reported on May 30.

Yamal LNG will supply the Spanish partner with 2.5 million tons of gas over 25 years. This volume accounts for about 12 percent of Spain’s gas consumption back in 2015, Vedomosti business daily reports.”

Catalonia has is own LNG terminal owned by Enagás in Barcelona. There is also the Tarragona refinery.

“FROM AN EUROPEAN PERSPECTIVE, creating a new Corridor from South to North developing the IBERIAN-FRENCH CORRIDOR, opens a path to transport gas from Algeria to central Europe through France, increasing the European diversification of supply by reducing the dependence of the incumbent gas source jointly with the risks linked to security of supply.”

“A strategic gas pipeline is to be built through the Catalan Pyrenees, linking the Iberian Peninsula with France and Central Europe. The Midcat project aims to reduce Europe’s dependency on Russian gas by 40%, diversifying the sources of supply. The pipeline should be operational by 2020..”

Now, the crisis with Russia has reignited the urge to find alternative gas suppliers for Central Europe.”

“Alternatives to Russian gas are urgently needed, not just because of the Ukraine crisis: Spain is building new pipelines and making Europe more independent of Gazprom. Natural gas from Nigeria will go to Europe.” 2014 from Europas Abhängigkeit von Gazprom Erdgas aus der Sahara

Catalonia wants to take the same role Ukraine tried to play for Russia: the most important transit route to the EU. When Washington invaded the Ukraine, their plans were to sit on gas-oil pipelines, to collect the transfer fees and to dictate to Russia and to the EU prices and conditions of trade. To control the long-haul trucking and railroad routes from Russia and Eurasia to the EU and from the EU to Russia, China ad Eurasia.

By taking over the control of Catalonia, Washington and also, probably, Tel-Aviv and Brussels will control not only Spain, but also the North African trade and migrants and shipping routes in and out the Mediterranean Sea.

As of now, Washington nearly successfully blocking Europe on the East. With a color revolution in Catalonia, it tries to block Europe from the South-West.

They call this “taking a command of a blocking position.”

A rant of Alex Calvo, a fellow with a perfectly neo-liberal bio, Alex Calvo is a Professor of International Relations and International Law, and guest professor at Nagoya University. An expert on Asian security and defense issues, he got his LLB from the School of Oriental and African Studies (SOAS, University of London) and is currently doing an MA in Second World War Studies at the University of Birmingham. He is a former teaching and research fellow at the OSCE Academy in Bishkek (Kyrgyzstan).

“Spanish officials and politicians insist that Catalonia will be excluded from the EU, forgetting that it is them that run that risk. A simple look at the map shows that Spaniards better behave and immediately recognize Catalonia, else their EU-bound lorries may suffer some unfortunate delays while being inspected by Catalan border authorities. “

Catalonia wants to keep Spanish assets, including military assets. “If Madrid persists in her ways, she will be stuck with her huge national debt.”

“It emerged again this month when the region’s Parliament passed a law that said a newly independent Catalonia’s economic and financial obligations will be set by “the terms that are agreed” with the nation it’s leaving, rather than offering a guarantee of full payment.”

The moment Spain got a glimpse of hope for the future with cheaper Russia’s LNG and the OBOR, Washington and Co. move to destroy it.

Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin received credentials from 20 foreign ambassadors. The ceremony, which symbolizes the official start of the ambassadors’ missions in the Russian Federation, took place in the Alexander Hall of the Grand Kremlin Palace.

Putin said: “Russian-Spanish relations go back many centuries. This year we marked 350 years since the establishment of the first diplomatic contacts between our states. Our people are bound together by the feelings of mutual sympathy and respect. There is potential for developing Russian-Spanish cooperation in many areas despite an adverse political situation. Everyone is talking about the Catalonian referendum now. Frankly, we are seriously concerned about Spain, even though this is an internal affair of the Kingdom of Spain. We hope it will overcome this crisis.”

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The journalists of the Spanish public broadcaster demand the chief of the newsroom resigns. According to the journalists, when providing news about events in Catalonia, “everything possible was done to spread a partial and biased view of the facts.” “hiding or concealing information which is necessary to understand what is happening in Catalonia now”.
This is a sobering week for Europe. We’ve seen police violence and repression against people who were queuing up to vote; now we have news broadcasts which are little more than propaganda.

If you want to find disinformation and a biased view of the facts, I recommend you to watch just 1 hour the Catalonian TV channel (TV3). Even better, you should go to Barcelona and check for yourself what is happening. If there is a side full of fascist, that is the side of the people seeking “independence”: banning the usage of Spanish, not fulfilling the Spanish or European laws and decisions of the judges, pointing out and calling for violence against people who simply did not want to participate in that charade… But do not trust me, just go there and check by yourself, it is the best way to really find out what is happening there.

Catalonia is independent in its heart. No one needs to give her pretexts to revolt when she suffers injustices. Its history is made of sufferings inflicted by those who wanted to repress its freedom. The sieges, the famine, the humiliations and the massacres, she knows! But she always stands up! NOTHING to do with Maidan. It is the 10 billion annual donations given by Catalonia to Spain without sufficient counterpart which are problematic. But no ! No dialogue! Contempt and brutality! Brussels is incapable of mediating, because the policy of austerity it imposes is the root cause of the malaise. The American army will not need to intervene to dissolve Europe. She is detested by peoples to whom she only asks for sacrifices.
I added that to present people beaten like actors made up, it is a shame! Watch the videos!

You must be joking. 10 billion annual “donations” given by Catalonia to Spain without counterpart? Why not 100 or 1000? Where did you get that figure from? Any official source, please, or is it that just another example of disinformation?

Catalonia is bankrupted due to the incompetence of their leaders, and their bonds are junk. Their leader have been stealing for years (there are several trials about that) and they want to disguise their malpractices with the independence show. It is very sad to see how people gets to accept so many lies.

You fault to the truth with that statement on the phantasmogoric figure of those 10 billion annual donations given by Catalonia to Spain, which only the independentists believe and with which they have fooled the Catalan working people, and to debunk such a lie, the following video, where Josep Borrell destroys Oriol Junqueras arguments one after another, as well as demonstrate that he, simply, lies with all his face:

Josep Borrell: “You have worked hard all this time to create a sense of grievance: They steal us 16,000 million a year!
On the other hand, if you are going to see the accounts presented by the Department of Economics, which you now direct, it turns out that in the report made last year by Mr. Mas Colell that the Catalans pay not 32 but 78500 million. And they receive, all the administrations, 76,000 million. And that, therefore, the difference is of 2400, and not of 16000.
Do you realize that we have a problem when a person who has your responsibilities, systematically dedicates itself to saying things as they are NOT?
And they are not, not because I say it, but because they say so the official documents of the Generalitat of Catalonia.”

For those able to read in Spanish, it precedes and follows more lies by Mr.Junqueras. These are the moral and intelectual heights of the Catalonian independentist leaders right now.

BTW, have you any relation with the large Pujol family, decades ruling the Generalitat of Catalonia for the formation Convergencia i Unió ( now in the independentist triparty ) and draining its budget into their own pockets and who were deemed by a judge as “association to commit crime?

China’s top Billionaire has it wrong, the current system is unsustainable. The future for economics is citizen payments where equal distribution of the GDP is required for a society to function.

If we consider that “Mass Production” and “Robotics” are inevitable then going forward the means of production will require a massively reduced workforce. Self Drive technologies alone are estimated to reduce the workforce by 30%.

The impact if not managed will lead to crisis after crisis. For instance, a factory upgrades its plant and introduces a robotic production line, this will result in massive quantitative and qualitative increases in production but at the same time reducing the requirement for workers to be involved in the manufacturing process. This increases the profits for the owners of the “Means of Production” but decreases the ability for workers to earn income and hence survive.

Example, a theoretical manufacturing plant which employed 200 workers is upgrading its plant and installing robots. After the upgrade it is established that efficient running of the manufacturing plant now only requires 100 workers. When this happens all manufacturing will be upgrading if for no other reason than to compete. Hence half the workforce will be out of work.

What do we do in a society where the “Means of Production” is held in the hands of a very few and where more than half of everyone is unable to earn an income? We Seize The “Means of Production”

When i say seize the “Means of Production” i mean everything that’s used to produce goods and services. Factories, government, businesses, etc. Seizing them means that the people take back control of them for the greater good instead of for personal gain as in capitalism.

Here in New Zealand everything that’s used to produce goods and services (GDP) is $50k per person. Every person in NZ contributes to the GDP either directly or indirectly hence every person in NZ should receive an equal share. Hence the average family of 5 could live quite comfortably with an annual income of $250k.

The problem of course is that the wealthy elite will kill us all before we can make it a reality. And in a nutshell we get to the source of the worlds problems.

The insatiable greed of the psychopaths who currently rule US. In the theoretical factory that upgrades its plant could opt to keep its 200 employers and have them all work half as much for the same pay, and here we see the beginning of citizen where work is shared and the profits shared.

But history tells me that wealthy elite will insist on crisis after crisis until it is forced on them through revolution. After all they are insatiable psychopaths who can never have enough.

In the theoretical example of a plant upgrade that uses half the workforce to produce the same amount of widgets, I understand the problem to be that the remaining half of workers are not paid twice as much. If all remaining workers were paid twice the amount, their local spending would be used in some fashion to hire those made surplus in this plant. The problem is that most of the wage increase is going to a few at the top. They seek highest return for their unwarranted earnings. A large part of that is external to the community, not local. Equal wage increases for all employees would be spent more locally, while concentrated wage increases are led by economic forces to be spent more externally. Proportional distribution of the benefits of productivity increases is crucial and lacking under current Globalization practices. Those in power are too busy “investing” (extending their dominance) externally.

Excellent article, as always. Highly informative. What struck me when I was watching demonstrations and demands for Catalonian independence was the fact that the whole thing was just a little bit too well organized, as if someone was pulling strings from outside Spain.Those demonstrations in Catalonia were carbon copy of demonstrations which Soros organized in other parts of the world. By breaking up a country and creating smaller entities, bankers like Soros have an easier task of controlling and manipulating a country. And yes, when a heap of false “migrants” and “refugees” started pouring into Europe, that moment I knew that they were given the task of a political Trojan Horse, to be used for the break up sovereign states by creating economic, financial, political, social and ethnic troubles, as they are already doing. Once they came to Europe, they neither wanted to assimilate nor were they capable of assimilating, and expecting them to do so was absurd. Instead of obeying existing laws, traditions and cultures, they are using the principles of “human rights” to make demands on sovereign governments and native populations, asking both to assimilate to their ways instead of the other way round. Europe is already experiencing problems, and it will experience even greater problems, as the birth rate of “migrants” and “refugees” is higher than that of the native European population. No wonder that among ordinary people in Europe the Russian intervention in Syria was met with great approval, while the prestige of Russia and President Putin is on the rise by the month, much to the frustration of the Western elites, who never expected this.

Hi fellow readers!
I´m a long time reader of the Saker, this is my first post, and I want to add my 2€cent from the frontlines of the Catalan conflict.
I come from Valencia, just south of Catalonia. Here we share the language and many customs with Catalonia, and I also have several dear friends (intelligent, level headed people) living in Barcelona that frequently comment to me about the ongoing crisis, so I think I have a good perspective on this.

That said, my friends living in Catalonia are completely appalled by the way that the Secesionist movement operates and are even contemplating getting out of there, ASAP. To cut it short, it is a bunch of FANATICS manipulating people into independence.

On the other hand, it is also very true that the Rajoy government in Madrid has done almost everything WRONG in handling this crisis, and unleashing the police last sunday is only the icing on the cake, so to speak.

I have thought a lot about the ultimate reasons of the Secesionist leaders in Catalonia, and frankly I cannot find many possible explanations…. It may be very well that they are deluded fools that think that an independent Catalonia would turn into a kind of prosperous Switzerland in the Mediterranean, although there´s zero chance of this happening – it would be actually the opposite.

The other only explanation of them carrying on with the illegal and fraudulent referendum is that some very powerful external actor would be secretly backing them. I even thought about China seeing there a chance to buy Catalan assets on the cheap and getting a foothold on southwestern Europe, but this doesn´t look like China´s style. So I now think that Mr Scott is pointing in the right direction. There is an external component to the Catalonian crisis.

And Qui bono? Who benefits from the Balkanization of Spain? Not Brussels, not Germany, probably not the UK, certainly not France, and for sure NOT Catalonia (we Spaniards are usually relaxed and tolerant people, but if Catalonia unilaterally secedes, A LOT of people here would get extremely pissed off and would make the Catalans to pay dear – contrary to what this smokeblower Alex Calvo says, an angry Spain is in the position of turning an independent Catalonia into a kind of isolated Gaza strip).

I´m afraid that we are really watching now another Maidan – with less violence, I will hope…

I agree with RR, it is quite obvious that this Catalan crisis works for Russia at the moment, even if only temporarily. It comes handy for Russia to show the Europe how their bitter pills taste when shoved in their own throats. Also, it helps to highlight the police brutality in the civilized western country, and no outrage from the EU officials. Russia has upcoming presidential election and undoubtedly, there will be attempts to provoke some civil unrest. Dealing with it will be way easier now since no EU country will have a right to make even a peep about any police brutality in Russia after what happened in Spain.
Besides divided Europe is better for Russia that the one united under the US control. It is always easier to negotiate with a weaker “partner” and pull it from under the US wing, one by one, well except for Poland and the Baltic states of course, those apparently have lost any sense of reality, but who wants them as partners anyways.

Maybe, but you are assuming that the European Union would consider the breakup of one of its members into smaller parts as a “bitter pill” to swallow. In fact the taste of the pill could very well be sweet or pleasant at the deep level, though they may make a disgusted face here and there, just for decorum. This is occuring by design.
Also, regarding the police roughness, you are assuming that people have a memory and some control of what appears in the media. Keep in mind that you can easily create outrage over police behavior in an illegal referendum while simultaneously pretending the daily *shelling* of a population for years does not exist, or the fact that much worse police brutality is considered pretty normal (and not often shown) when dealing with political demonstrations even if they are peaceful.

Police behavior on an “illegal referendum” ? So that’s how police brutality is called in EU now – police behavior.
There is no such thing as an illegal referendum. If over two million people have decided to let the world know about their opinion on their own home affairs it is perfectly legal, no matter what a constitution feels about that. A constitution is written by people and sure could be revised when two million plus people feel like it. Spain failed to negotiate with the Catalans, even tho they had a pretty good example on how referendums should be handled in the UK, now EU is going to deal with this new reality inside their own borders.

People who want their freedom and independence have to go out and take it.
You will die of old age if you wait for someone else to give it to you.
You don’t have to accept whatever rules old Fascist hangovers of judges and politicians dream up and try to impose on you.
It’s like playing cards with someone who makes up the rules as they go along.

mark, we didn’t ‘declare’ the American rebellion illegal—it was already illegal, an act of treason against their lawful King; if we had won—if we hadn’t been distracted by France’s opportunistic entering the conflict to revenge the Seven Years War—then we would have tried then hanged, drawn and quartered the ‘Founding Fathers’ as traitors.

Likewise, mark, we didn’t ‘declare’ the Irish 1916 rebellion illegal—it was already illegal, an act of treason, aiding and abetting the enemy who were killing their fellow Irish on the Western Front. As John Redmond, leader of the Irish Parliamentary Party, said in the House of Commons:’Is it not an additional horror that on the very day when we hear that the men of the Dublin Fusiliers have been killed by Irishmen on the streets of Dublin, we receive the news of how the men of the 16th Division—our own Irish Brigade, and of the same Dublin Fusiliers—had dashed forward and by their unconquerable bravery retaken the trenches that the Germans had won at Hulluch? Was there ever such a picture of a tragedy which a small section of Irish faction had so often inflicted on the fairest hopes and the bravest deeds of Ireland?’
Not for nothing were the captured rebels jeered and spat on by the Dublin crowds.
Support for Irish independence was not as popular as nationalist quarters pretend: while separatists won 80 of Ireland’s 105 seats in the 1918 GE, this was courtesy of only 36.27% of the electorate. 66 seats had no Unionist candidates—1,241,806 voters (64.09% of Ireland’s electorate) were disenfranchised, either completely (in 25 seats) or effectively by having no alternative to vote for—five-eighths of Ireland’s seats were decided by a process that would embarrass any banana republic.

But on one thing you are implicitly right: it’s only about might. The Catalan separatist minority will have a ‘right’ to create their toy republic only if Spain proves too weak to crush them.¡Cataluña es España y siempre lo sera!

The refrendum was not only illegal under the Spanish Constitution but under the rules of the freely elected Catalan Parliament’s own rules, having only mustered 72 votes as against the 90 votes required.

The Catalan Generalitat announced that anyone could download a ballot paper from the internet, print it off, fill it in nnd return it. I defy anyone to tell me how, even with the most virtuous people on the planet, this would not be wide open to abuse. Can anyone tell me that Puigdemont and his cronies did not spend a few weeks filling in these “ballot papers” (I know Hillary Clinton would have done).

Finally, where were these votes counted, who counted them and who witnessed the counting? Agreed, an illegal vote presents difficulties for open, public counts, but there’s the rub. Puigdemont copuld just as easily have made up the figures. Oh, and even on those figures, more than 2.5 million of catalonia’s 5.5 million voters were missing.

nazism, racism and fascism where all legal.
Your “filling ballots” comment reminds me maybe you are not familiar with spanish voting style.
You have to understand that scurrent spanish constitution and political system was forged in the 70s by the former fascists, with the help of CIA.
They called it a “transition” and added all the mecanisms that would allow them to control the fall of the fascist regime even with the option to keep their posts (just check how many politicos went from fascism to democrat without loosing their posts.
For that, several tricks where included. You vote with a paper ballot, which has the list of the party you choose. No need to fill squares or whatever. All ballots for all parties are stacked in the entrance. this gives 4 know vectors of attack:
1) unless you sneak your own ballot (political parties send you by mail extra ballots) it is quite easy to see what you are going to vote by seeing which ballot you pick
2) You can insert 2 or more ballots unnoticed (all elections since the “transicion” have more votes than voters
3) you can pick elderly and disabled, give them the ballots, and check they use your provided ballots to vote. The common price is 10 eur per person.
4) you can remove ballots of your opponents, making it harder to vote (you have to complain and wait for new ballots to arrive)

The system is based in “colegios electorales” which compute the results and send them to the central government.
People are selected “randomly” but ussualy the same people do the task over and over? you only need to corrupt half a dozen people to screw with the results of a whole precint.

and, the cherry on the top of the cake?
the “colegio electoral” must destroy the ballots imediatly after communicating the results. So it is impossible ti get caught if you cheat.

All this points to a system defective by design. No wonder rajoy won last elections… If in napoles la camorra makes the laws, supervises the voting and counting, and then wins, would you be suprised?

And it has the added value of demoralizing peoples efforts, because they do not see who votes for them, and everyone gets suspicious of one another and demoralized.

One of the previous goverbments of the current leading party had 11 out of 12 ministers indicted ir jailed for corruption, do yiu really think they would not cheat the results?

May be it´s you the one that doesn´t know so much about the Spanish election system. It happens that several friends and and relatives of mine (including my father and sister) have served as chairs in the “colegios electorales”. The only point where you are right is when the nuns of eldery homes take the disabled elders to vote for PP (no joke, but this doesn´t tip the scales of an election, anyway). The other three points are completely false. I can assure you that vote rigging in Spain is waaaay harder to do than in other Western countries.

Your are right about the “Transición” being set up by the CIA & Francoist elites, tough. As Franco said (my translation): “I leave everything properly tied together”.

And what makes you think I, myself or my family do not serve as chairs too?
so again:
1) you pick the ballot in public or you can bring your own.
2) you can insert more than one ballot. all election have had more votes than voters.
4) you can remove ballots for a party, making vote for them hard to impossible

5) all ballots are to be destroyed immediatly after the results are reported.

Its easy to check the veracity of all the above.

I have talked to several chairs, who also where of the opinion the system is safe… All them where from represented political parties, and none could explain why the votes are destroyed.
I also thorougly debbuged the process and it has more points of failure. They all seem premeditated to allow cheating. That you know the system and cannot see that must be cognitive dissonance.

Your comments don´t give me the impression that you have participated or been around during a voting day in Spain….

1) you can do either way. And the vote is definitely secret, if you want to.
2) no way! You CANNOT insert more than one ballot in the box. As for the “elections have had more voters than votes, this is nosense. The participation rate in Spain usually hovers around 60%. How can you have 60% of potential votes cast and have more votes than voters?
4) theoretically yes, but there are volunteers of most parties in the polling stations (and police!), and LOTS of potential witnesses, so this is really not a good idea. You could get in serious trouble for attempting that.
5) Yes, ballots are destroyed after counting. They are counted by several people including overseers from most political parties. There is however a weak spot in the chain of custody when transmitting these numbers to the central polling office.

Yes, there are for sure weak spots in the Spanish system, no question. My point is, these weaknesses are DEFINITELY not worse than the potential weaknesses of other Western countries.

Destroying the ballots is something I’m unaware of in other places, and a game killer.
No ballots, no accountability. period.

1) “if you want to” – but if you dont want, its not. people can easily be coerced on that situation.
2) yes you can. all elections have more votes than voters, and I do not mean registered, i mean who actually where there…
4) I recall registered events of that happening since last european elections, of course it must have happened before
5) “several” “randomly” elected people which usually includes current incumbents

I do not trust the results of Spanish elections, and think no one should.
Ignorance is bliss…

In the UK, ballots are sealed for one year and then destroyed. However, during that one year period challenges are extremely rare because of the relative openness of the process (postal ballots aside) and because it is extremely expensive to get a court order that ballots be unsealed.

The situation with a legal election in Spain has been expliained, but what about an illegal one? Who counted the votes? Where were the lists ensuring that voters can only vote at one location? These are normally held by the Spanish Interior Ministry. What safeguard was there to ensure that multiple ballots were not downloaded for the independence side? And, since the usual methods for counting were not available, where were the votes counted and who counted them?

So, the main problem here is that the Constitution was voted in 1978, three years *after* Franco died? Really? Does that mean that I can rebel against any law that was not voted by me? Come on, you must be kidding me.

PS: I do not think the electoral procedure in Catalonia is different from the rest of Spain, so if you think that elections in Spain are a fraud, then elections in Catalonia are also a fraud.

Regards the section on Spain. I understand the writers geo-political- economic points. However what’s to stop Madrid militarily occupying Catalunya and serving the us empire and its eu puppets as you claim the Catalunyan government is about?

From a military point of view, there´s NOTHING that the regional government could do to stop the Spanish military & police.

From a political point of view, it´s a completely different game. Rajoy (PP-right) governs with a minority, with some support from CIUDADANOS (center-right). To the other side there are PSOE (fake left – supports the unity of Spain but is very critical of the Government politics), PODEMOS (a new party, with some good people but generally full of the equivalent of Social Justice Warriors, plus some others supporting the independence movement), plus there are several regional parties (BTW, it´s a joke that the Spanish law gives a disproportionate amount of seats to regional parties, it was done in order to benefit and give voice to the regions, but it ended with some regional parties, like the Catalan CiU, being the hinge party in Congress and having a disproportionate amount of power in Madrid, and as a reward doing whatever they wanted in the regional Government in Catalonia, this went for many years!!).
This political weakness plus the great national enbarrasment following the police actions means that Rajoy is in no position to do anything without risking inpeachment. Only a forceful movement by Barcelona, short of declaring independence and shutting down all the Spanish institutions in Catalonia, would suffice to start a big police/military action, IMHO.

An anti-Russian troll – I think it is clear you break the Saker moderation policy of a silly comment; not based on fact and adding nothing to the discussion.

If RT and Sputnik are reporting on what is going on – how does that make them pro-anything? They are on the ground reporting the facts as they unfold live from both sides and allowing all opinions. They don’t take sides. Maybe the MSM should try that.
The Russian Govt. has given a very clear message that this is a matter for Spain and its concern.

I have one question about the NATO base in Gruzia (Georgia). You mention it by passes the Montreaux Convention – how so? Romania and Bulgaria are NATO members but haven’t been allowed to abuse this to date or to any great effect. Turkey controls the entrance to the Black Sea and wouldn’t want this base on its door step either. The US and non Black Sea countries can have only a limited amount of ships at anyone time.

So how does the US think having a base would change this?

In regard to Spain there are so many hands at play there but I think the way the Govt. reacted has played right into the hands of the colour revolutionists outside the country – adding fuel to the fire.

The Govt. should have kept their calm – made their point clearly and let this non-binding/illegal referendum go ahead (they didn’t and wouldn’t have got the majority of votes) and tried to use diplomacy and dialouge. It would have probably not had the impact it now has with protest and strikes taking place today across the region.

The Catalan President needs to be watched carefully……

Maybe some of the police brutality was set up, but quite a lot of it happened too. What I have been mulling over since Sunday is who gave the go ahead to use violence/fire on people? are the Govt. and others in cahoots playing all sides off each other? Police brutality against peaceful protest or voters is unacceptable – no matter. Once we accept this type of behaviour the elites will use the police against us – that is what they are building up to do across Europe. The whole play is very murkey indeed.

Cutting off the internet – again a slow but sure crackdown on freedom of speech.

Thank you for the details on the gas pipelines etc. It adds another dimension.
The pipelines/LNG terminals could be diverted. Catalonia on its own could still be by passed – and its elites are playing a dangerous game and like Southstream could leave it with nothing.

The EU’s reaction has left it wide open to many, many, many questions.

“are the Govt. and others in cahoots playing all sides off each other? ”
Absolutely.
Besides the distraction, look into the left hand while the right stabs you, the instability and ideological abiss it creates plays right into the hands of those that want Europe loosing its strenght… Quid bono?

Many may say to not atribute to malice that which can be explained by estupidity… and then politicians all over the world turn dumb. So you miss the bad intentions.
Clearly it should be “do not blame stupidity that which can be explained by malice and self interest.”

Thank you Scott, for outlining the wider influences. It certainly got me to understand some of the issues operating even though I have no good historical basis. I thought it was a mere financial or economic issue, but now see it is much broader than my initial understanding.

Please do not slander Buddhism by conflating the Dalai Lama, a product of the utterly corrupt theocratic Tibetan state, with Buddhism. It’s not. What part of avoiding killing, not taking what is not given, refraining from sexual impropriety, lying, and drunkenness is in opposition to Christianity or Islam?

Defense Minister Shoigu is Buddhist, as are many Russians living in the Far East. In China, Buddhism is making a big revival. There is no copyright on human kindness, compassion and wisdom. However, as with all human institutions, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, Hindu and yes Marxism, corruption is a constant risk.

I personally attended a talk given by the Dalai Lama about 30 years ago, and it was excellent. But he talked spirituality and didn’t mix in politics.

I didn’t know at the time that his brother was collaborating with the US to train Tibetan guerrillas in Colorado to go back to Tibet to stir up trouble. Fortunately, the Tibetan people had had enough of his theocratic feudalism to not support it, and his rebellion failed.

Back then, my Zen community went to demonstrations against the Vietnam War, we participated in a vigil for nuclear disarmament every week, and my teacher did citizen diplomacy by visiting Russia.

As a Zen monk at the height of the Reagan demonization of Russia, I and a fellow monk, went to the now closed San Francisco consulate, and the Consul General himself graciously spent 30 minutes with two anonymous monks with no organization or reputation to fall back on.

All that said, in the ensuing years, as with the rest of US society, from what I can see, the Left, that its, the REAL left, which has always been anti war, anti exploitation, has been demobilized and brainwashed, like the rest of the US.

So, while most of my Buddhist American friends are for peace and anti war, they are generally confused about the truths which the Saker blog brings out.

That is not the fault of the teachings of Wisdom and Compassion.
“Do good, don’t do evil, purify your mind”.

Does anyone have a problem with that? Just as the US professes to be for ‘freedom and democracy’, but uses that as cover for the exact opposite. So we have every religion I have seen profess noble values, and break them because of human propensity for selfishness, self aggrandizement and fake moral superiority.

Religion is a force for morality but it is commandeered by control freaks, to get people to give them money and allegiance, using a combination of myths and moralizing.

What I see are all forms of dualism ganging up against something else, thru pretended oneness no less, that “something very threatening” is embedded in Russian Christian Orthodoxy. It must be stamped out at all costs. Yes, basically a good old fashened religious war that is been raging for milennia under various names.

It must be very disconcerting for the ruling class pulling Christian Orthodox weed like crazy but somehow it always returns.. Must be one of Gods little annoying pranks.

Never undermine that one special feature of declining Empire: people start to despise and ridicule it. American Empire is now in this stage. One the other hand full of muscles but simultaneously full of fear, uncertain, hysteric, hapless. How many of you remember the era of Breznev and Tšernenko as role models of brain death? The cavalcade of yummy jokes was endless.

I love it when the enemy pulls down the veil and lets you see his true face. This Polish official denouncing the Russian Orthodox Church in the EU Parliment is kind of breathtaking. The spirit of anti-Christ is very strong in our time, but it’s still rare that he makes direct public statement like this through his minions.

I will compile here my comments on various comments made by Uncle Bob from the US, José Freitas from Portugal, and Gabriel from Quebec.

The point of my reply is that the comparisons they make don’t make much sense.

The most obvious is the comparison that Uncle Bob keeps bringing up between Catalonia and the Donbass.
Uncle Bob often makes very valuable comments, but the notion of comparing Catalonia with the Donbass (and by extension Madrid with Kiev) seems to me so completely preposterous that I can’t imagine how anyone can even bring it up. The Donbass revolted because there was a textbook American-engineered coup in Kiev that installed a completely illegal government of neo-nazi assholes and russophobes, who quickly made it clear that ethnic Russians and their language were a target. Kiev has been shelling and murdering people there for 3 years. What on earth are you talking about, Uncle Bob? Please…

The Spanish government sent some riot police to try to enforce the high court ruling that this referendum was illegal and the voting centers should not open, as the local Catalan police were unwilling to enforce this order. Okay, it was a truly incompetent decision to send the riot police because it should have been easy to foresee that it would lead precisely to the kind of scenes we’ve seen (which, by the way, are common in most western democracies when the police are sent out to control crowds or put down demonstrations, even if they are peaceful).

The Madrid government could (and should) have just let them vote and just ignore the vote since the referendum had been declared illegal long beforehand. The only thing they gained by this was a lot of images circulating worldwide presenting a picture of brutalization. The effect on the number of people who voted was negligible, except to increase chaos, as people went from one place to another in order to vote and could vote several times if they wished to.

From the Madrid side, it was incompetence at a huge and clownish level. One wonders what kind of “advisors” the Spanish PM has, and who they are serving. Maybe the whole lot of them are incompetent. Maybe their UE masters advised them to do this. I don’t know.

Anyway, to go back to my point, what does this have to do with the horror show that Kiev has been putting on in the Donbass since 2014? What indeed?

If you are going to do a comparison, you can compare the big international “outrage” this one day of police roughness created, you could compare it with the deafening silence that has resulted from 3 YEARS of shelling and killing by the Ukrainian army in the Donbass.
And there is another element that could be compared between those two cases: that would be the language policies pursued by the Kiev government and by the Catalonian government, with regards to Russian and Spanish languages, both of which are the native and/or most commonly spoken language for at least half the population of Ukraine and Catalonia respectively. Those language policies consist of aggressive suppression, both in education and in official matters, of those languages.

The comparison with Quebec made by Gabriel is also largely inappropriate, though he makes good points with regard to the history of Quebec. The fact is that since 1759, when the British defeated the French in Quebec City, all those territories came under their control, which resulted in a situation where the local French-speaking population (a vast majority among settlers, as French people had been settling there since the mid 17th century) were now ruled by the Anglo minority, which held all the reins of political and economic power. The French Canadians were slow to wake up, but they finally did in the 1960s and 70s, and things changed a lot.

In contrast, Catalonia has been the richest and most industrialized region of Spain since at least the second half of the 19th century. The local ethnic Catalan elites were always the ones who held most of the economic power there, unlike Quebec. Workers migrated there from all other parts of Spain. Ethnic “pure laine” Catalonians of all social classes have been by and large better off than the immigrants that kept coming to Catalonia from other parts of Spain until the late 20th century (today they mostly come from other countries).

Also, the percentage of native Spanish speakers in Catalonia is about 7 times larger than the percentage of native English speakers in Quebec. In spite of that, the language policy in Catalonia is much more aggressively anti-Spanish, especially in education, than in Quebec. In Quebec, you can send your child to public school in English if one of the parents was educated in that language. In Catalonia you cannot do that.

The fact that Spanish speakers seem to be still a majority in Catalonia, does not prevent the Catalan government from pursuing a very aggressive policy of excluding Spanish from public education and official use.

Each case is different, and comparisons should be done with extreme care.

There is a region in northern Italy, referred to as Padania, which has expressed some independent aspirations. In terms of the dynamics of wealth distribution and industrialization, it is in many respects comparable to the Catalan case.

And the comparison with Portugal made by José Freitas is also ill-conceived for this purpose. Very different case. Portugal was temporarily joined with the Spanish crown for a mere 59 years, and that was a long time ago, after the Portuguese king, Sebastian, died without heirs. The “Iberian Union” lasted from 1581 to 1640. That’s it.

You cannot possibly compare that with Catalonia, which has been continuously part of Spain from the very beginning, since the political entity called Spain came into existence with the marriage of the so called “Catholic Monarchs” in 1469. And I insist that the language situation today is what it is as copied above, unless the government of Catalonia is inflating its own data with regard to Spanish speakers (which would be quite astonishing).

“In practice, people, and organizations existing on and around Buddhism are anything but, moral or spiritual.”

Really? So Buddhists are neither moral or spiritual? Well, maybe in the pov of a medieval Catholic village priest or one of those american fanatically indoctrinated Christian fundies, Buddhists are immoral and unspiritual. As with most prejudice, this sort of wholesale smearing reflects more upon the morality and mindset of the author than it does the targets of his bigotry.

Spain- all you have to known is Tony Blair’s Scottish Referendum in the UK. These ‘events’ are planned so far down the road it isn’t even real.

The Deep State’s most widely known Senior Demon, Tony Blair (who actually first came to real power on an election campaign that exposed his demon form on posters across Britain- don’t believe this, Google ‘Blair Demon Eyes’) set up a project to encourage irrelevent (at the time) ‘nationalist’ movements in Wales and Scotland to seek ‘independence’ from the UK. All the more curious when you consider Blair represented the Labour Party, and Labour only ever wins power as a result of the vote in Wales and Scotland.

The rest of the world leaders were very very very distressed at Blair’s move, since the peaceful unity of the UK was a shining beacon to the parts of the world where people have more difficulty living side-by-side. When Blair’s lieutenants arranged the referendum vote in Scotland, EU leaders behind the scenes did their nuts. Germany, France, Spain, Italy and the Netherlands have regions that historically are rich, have once been independent, and would love to be independent again. But Blair knew what he was doing.

Now we have the first fallout from Blair’s act. Spain has a recent troubled history- a ***very*** recent troubled history. And Spain, beneath the surface, has a police state that is insanely ruthless and murderous. A sleeping dragon always waiting to be awoken. When Spanish people go to sleep, they are the sweetest, most peaceful, and contented types. But when riled up, insanity takes over, and they do terrible things to themselves and any vulnerable parts of the world they can lay their hands on. The Scottish independence referendum was designed to awaked many such dragons across the Earth.

Take the latest hyper-sick news from Britain. Britain’s most senior internal lawmaker, the Home Secretary, has stated new British Laws will make it illegal for Brits to watch online, at Youtube and other ordianary outlets, political material deemd ‘unsuitable’ for the British people by the Home Secretary. The punishment- ***fifteen years in prison*** (and since Blair privatised Britain’s prisons, there is no shortage of prison places).

Now this new law will only be used against specific ‘targets’- the ‘wrong’ types of grassroots leaders who don’t want to follow Blair’s demonic fabian agenda. And, of course, young ethnic kids MI5/MI6 wants to ***blackmail*** into becoming agents for them- including patsies whose corpses will be left at sites of future false-flag ops used to ‘encourage’ Brits to support even more extreme laws in the future. Selective application of hyper-vicious anti-freedom laws are a perfect indicator of a police state.

Now Tony Blair encourages silly people to indulge in ‘bottom up’ thinking, so events in Spain are ‘understood’ by ‘local history’. Nonsense, complete and total nonsense. You can go to any corner of this palnet, spend five seconds talking to people, and discover ancient amneties that a monster could use to rile up locals to some terrible purpose. Telling a section of peeps that by casting off their neighbours, they could be richer than they, is the oldest monster trick of all- recall the fable of Jesus in the desert, and the siren voice of Satan saying the same thing.

Why did the independence referendum fail in Scotland? Not cos the Scots ‘love’ the Brits, but because of the very opposite- cos Scots ken ‘family’ is not about surface simple minded love, but a deeper loyaly and respect for the unity of people working together for the betterment of all. The ‘divide and conquer’ had long ago worn out its welcome in Scotland. Tony Blair came from Scotland like Hitler came from Austria. And the Scots had gained the measure of fabianism long ago.

But Blair has Britain act in hyper Orwellian ways ***not*** to have the iron fist visible on Britain’s streets, but “as a lesson for the others”. Every petty tyrant, ‘elected’ or not, uses Britain as an excuse to impose the same laws in his nation. If the ‘Mother of Parliaments’ says it is right and just to imprison a citizen for much of his/her life for what he/her watches on Youtube, then it is good for their nation as well.

We have seen how the wahhabi collective of the Middle East has a police state exactly modelled on Britain’s laws passed since Blair first came to power. Qatar, the UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, KSA, etc have all eliminated their secular socialist movements (sadly also with the assistance of Russia) using police state laws and actions imported from the UK. Indeed, many of the uniformed death squads operating in these lands are headed by senior serving British Police Officers operating on secondment (again, don’t belive me?- Google it).

Next Spring Britain will have the most rigorous censorship of the Internet on the planet. In the couple of years that follw, every nation on the Earth save America will follow. Thankfully this will force the net to mature and adopt fully encrypted pseudo-anonymous connection and transfer methods, but the old free net will be gone forever. Tony Blair is preparing for WW3, and in a World War, people are never allowed to communicate freely.

Now the fabians (who rarely use this name in public) pass themselves of as modern secular socialists. Adolf Hitler was a fabian. Hence the constant confusion as to whether the nazi party was ‘socialist’ or not. Any here who have read ‘Dune’ (and if you haven’t- run, don’t walk, to your local library and borrow a copy) will know of the ‘Bene Gesserit’ and their generational social engineering masterplan. The Fabians are the real life Bene Gesserits, and Tony Blair their first successful ‘Kwisatz Haderach’. Make it simpler, and simply understand Blair as the Anti-Christ.

Blair’s Britain is the centre of the spider’s web for all that is currently foul in the world. Initially the new ‘extremist islam’ was seen as a very bad idea by even the wahhabi Saudis (since the House of Saud was given complete dominium by the UK and USA, its leaders have feared a bottom up extremist revolution with good cause and thus originally kept an iron grip on extremist types). But now the richest and most powerful muslims of Earth fully fund and support extremist ideologies, in complete service to Tony Blair. Most ordianary muslims, especially the women, can’t begin to get their heads around this insanity- but the trick there is to get them to focus on the ‘injustices’ happening to ordinary fellow muslims as they are mass murdered in wars seemingly supported by the ‘christian’ West.

Blair’s first major war was Kosovo- designed to induce the Yanks into their first major ground war since Vietnam. He failed, of course, since the yanks were pant soilingly scared of taking on Soviet trained forces. So Blair had to up his game massively, and thus we had 911.

Our side has one major failing- a need for ‘insight’ into the motivations of the demons. We see this foolishness with the latest mass shooting in America. Why did a milionaire take such pains to arrange the killing of so many innocents? That’s ‘bottom up’ thinking that seems ‘smart’ to people who misunderstand logic and the scientific method. Top Down thinking means you understand that when society is ***stressed*** with cynical and synthetic division, you squeeze out all kinds of crazy. So Top Down thinking states the problem is the ‘squeezing’ and not the nutters you squeeze out.

Top Down thinking informs us that True Evil is simply anti-life. True Evil is the antibody system of a ‘clockwork’ universe that consciousness of life has ‘invaded’. True Evil invokes higher life to commit species suicide. Tony Blair prepares for WW3 with every atom of his being. Therefore Blairite Fabian Britain is the engine of everything truly terrible on the planet. Every recent mega-evil can be traced back to the centre of the spider’s web.

The Catalonians think they have the same ‘rights’ as the scottish under Blairite Britain. Sadly so do many of you here. In reality their motivation is like the terrible father who one day wakes up and says to himself (if I walk out on my wife and kids, all my earning will be my own- and I can live like a prince freed from all social responsibility). We pull together or we fall apart.

Now this doesn’t mean we support the police state methods used against the people of Catalonia (more bottom up thinking), but are mature enough to get what happens when any mob is riled up. Look Syria was a wonderful peaceful land (save for the occasional jewish-Israeli car bomb) until Blair gave the order for its destruction. Today our good guys have to drop thousands of bombs on Syria for a better end. But it would hve been infinitely more good for good Humans to have prevented the fake civil war in the first place. Likewise the Catalonians should never have been encourged to walk out on their familiy for their own selfish gain. Blair riled up the Catalonians with the Scottish referendum, ***by design***- and hopes to have riled up a million other petty independence movements across all regions of the planet. Divided we fall.

1) I never “slandered” Buddhism and only talked about this particular person, the Dalai Lama – if anything you are saying the same thing about him in your initial sentence.

2) While writing about the Intl. Centre-Museum of NK Roerich in Moscow – I specifically stated that they are people “around” the Buddhism. They are fake instead of Buddhists. I don’t talk about the religion, but people who use it by hiding behind it.
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Please, don’t take our time with your virtue signing nonsense.

There is no such thing as “the common moral values” for humanity. You Westerners base your entire modern culture on rejection of Christianity and sodomism. You cal your maxims “moral and ethical,” we, the Easterners, see them for what they are – the Satanism.

The Noahidism is a paganism based on the obedience to the Seven Laws of Noah which are the “moral” rules given to them by the Tetragrammaton. Rules like abstaining from eating human flesh and homosexual marriages. The rainbow is a modern symbol of Noahidism.

“… the gentiles who come to a knowledge of Hashem as Creator, the Almighty One of Israel, who come out of idolatry and give up their pagan christian beliefs would realize there is no easy “noahide” way to serve Him. Noahidism isn’t for this world but is for the world to come/”http://yearsofawe.blogspot.com/2010/11/vendyl-jones-is-very-sick.html

The universal moralism that the neo-cons are pushing now is a concealed form of the Noahidism.

“Issachar and Yosef: Talmud Chullin 92. The Talmud at this point is not simply talking about Noachide Law. We know that those laws number 7. We know that the 7 Laws of Noach are the Noachide’s ticket to Olama HaBa and to living in Eretz Yisrael. Yet there are three corollaries within these laws which define the standard for the nations of the world as nations beyond which they lose their right as a nation to continue to exist:

(i) they do not draw up a kethubah document for males (Kethubah is a marriage contract.)
(ii) they do not weigh flesh of the dead in the market
and (iii) they respect the Torah.”

Ironically, what the followers of the omnicidal Talmudic cult don’t tell you, is that the Noahidism forbids marriages between males (i), consuming human flesh, and rejection of the New Testament that they call “the respect for Torah.”

The Europeans have always been known for ease with which they consume human flesh for hunger and also as “medicine.” The marriage between males is now proclaimed by the West to be a “universal value.”
A punishment for the trespassing is the lost of right as a nation to continue to exist.

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1. The Minister of Defense Shoigu was baptized as an Orthodox Christian. He wouldn’t be able to function as a Defense minister if he was a devoted Buddhist, would he?
However, he helps the Buddhist community in Tuva including assistance in building new temples. His sister has met with the Dalai Lama for whatever reason.

The mostly Buddhist Trans-Baikal cossacks had no problem serving Russia as soldiers. The idea that Shoigu couldn’t serve as a Buddhist is ridiculous. Roerich was a theosophist, like Blavatsky, not a Buddhist.

As Scott has already pointed out above,stop misrepresenting what he has stated. Any further attacks will go to the trash. Mod

Dear Saker,
Thank you for spending some column space on what is going on in Catalunya. I have read a lot of interesting views but also a lot of nonsense, if I may use that word. To start with the language: until the 1930s in Catalunya everybody spoke Catalan, with the exception of newly arrived immigrants from other parts of the peninsula. Then came Franco and he absolutely forbade its use. When the old dictator was gone, Catalans felt they should recuperate their mother tongue. To this end, they decided to not only include Catalan in the schools’ curriculum but actually teach all subjects in it. Spanish became just another language to learn, yet this has never prevented Catalan teenagers from scoring amongst the highest on Spanish at the university entrance exams nor people from using it. As someone who has been living in Barcelona for 12 years, it is my understanding that apart from some remote mountain backwaters everybody speaks Spanish and a vast majority speak Catalan. In Barcelona, where many immigrants live, it is totally normal to start a conversation in Spanish and move on to Catalan as soon as you realise the person in front of you speaks the language too. To call this a lack of respect for Spanish is a bit rich. In fact, speaking Catalan in other parts of Spain will very often elicit angry reactions. So I wonder who are the less tolerant here.
Regarding the legitimacy of the referendum: the Catalans do not grand legitimacy to the high court’s ruling, and they have valid reason to do so. Over the last couple of years, the Spanish judicial system has been saturated with close friends of Partido Popular’s leaders, doing the bidding of prime minister Mariano Rajoy. Mr Rajoy himself is involved in a number of corruption cases and he has stolen last year’s general elections by depriving Podemos of around 20 seats, more or less a quarter of their final result, to make a “left” coalition with PSOE impossible. That this is relatively easy to be done will be clear to anyone who has read earlier comments about how the voting system works. Partido Popular, which is also controlling the national press and tv, has been conducting an anti-Catalunya campaign since at least the days of José María Aznar, the one who undermined the Spanish autonomous system by underhandedly taking away competences and concentrating all government investments exclusively in the Madrid region. It is nice to point at the law and claim Catalunya has autonomy, but reality is diametrically opposite. Just compare the infrastructure of Madrid with Barcelona’s. And do not blame this on incompetence, please. For a while, Barcelona managed to function, but since the constitutional court rejected the Catalan’s new statute on totally irrational grounds (many of the articles deemed unconstitutional are in use in other regions, for instance), now 7 years ago, a strong sense of disgrace and disgust has grown in Catalan society. People are fed up with Madrid and especially with Partido Popular, which was founded by a former Franco minister and which is very thinly veiling its fascist sympathies. By the way, calling the Catalans brainwashed Nazis, as F Man did yesterday, is not only factually wrong but also a gross insult to people who have suffered at the hands of real Nazis, as have many other Spaniards to be sure.
So here we are. Although many people fear the reality of an independent state and only reluctantly support the proces, everybody would love to see Mr Rajoy go and his undemocratic party with him and they see all this as an excellent opportunity to set in motion a nationwide uprising. Podemos are waiting for the right moment to spark the fire in Madrid and Bilbao and other mayor cities. It is indeed very unfortunate that outside players seem to be meddling in affairs. Whether you see the Catalan movement as having honest origins or being influenced from the start, it is becoming clear by now that many big players will try to seize the moment. I guess this explains the EU’s reluctancy to denounce the police clubbering innocent voters, something which actually happened according to witnesses I have spoken to. I could go on a couple pages more correcting the many wrongs written here about what is going on in Barcelona but I will leave it here, for the moment.

“Whether you see the Catalan movement as having honest origins or being influenced from the start, it is becoming clear by now that many big players will try to seize the moment.”

Yes, I think this is the problem.
Someone posting here in Spanish (or maybe it was in French—don’t have time to look for the post—I read it a couple of days ago) made an impassioned plea for Catalan independence, based on the past history of the region and the wrongs that have been done to it. I don’t question a word of what this person wrote (how could I??), *but* the level of passion and emotional feelings worries me because when people are feeling very strong emotions, they can be much more easily used/manipulated than if they detach from their emotions and sense of injustice (perfectly justified sense) and coolly survey the current situation and who might be using them and their reasonable desires for a different agenda. One that is not really in their interest.

In a sense, the most impassioned believers in the rightness of the Catalan cause are perhaps those who must step back and take a second look at various types of Deep State movers or even foreign agitators. The point of agitators is to “agitate.” Get people riled up and excited. Then, they cannot think clearly. So, stay unagitated and look below the surface at who might be using the situation for an alien or (for Catalonia/Spain) shortsighted agenda.

The angloamerican colonial empire has fought since end of the nineteenth century to control energy flow. There is an excellent book on that, ‘A century of war’ by Frederick William Engdahl. Hitting a search machine on that, you can find it as a downloadable pdf.
For possible legal consequences I will not link to that.

Guest author: Joseph Weiler (Joseph Straus Professor of Law and European Union Jean Monnet Chair at New York University Law School).

“Vive le Québec libre!” Who can forget de Gaulle’s mischievous and irresponsible speech in July 1967 during his visit to that hapless Province, which has become since then the eternal rallying cry for Western tribalism.

And now, once again, joining the ever lengthening queue is Catalonia –the subtext of whose recently called elections is, once again, “independence,” the Basques are lurking in the background and the Scots are not even lurking but quietly forging ahead. And there is “Padania” led by the awful Lega Nord in Italy and the list does not end there.

Feeding this frenzy for secession and independence in Europe is the premise that all these new States will somehow find a safe haven as Member States of the European Union. Absent that assumption, appetite for independence would be significantly muted the rough seas of “going it alone” far more threatening.

The Canadian Supreme Court in its careful and meticulous decision on Quebec the reasoning of which remains valid today clearly showed that none of these cases enjoy a right of secession under public international law, since all of them enjoy extensive individual and collective liberties enabling the full vindication of their nationality and cultural identity within their respective States.

But the issue is not one of rights, of law. It is simply ethically demoralizing to see the likes of Catalonia reverting to an early 20th Century post World War I mentality, when the notion that a single state could encompass more than one nationality seemed impossible –hence the special treaties on minorities which abounded in the breakup of the Ottoman and the Austro-Hungarian Empires. These arrangements were well intentioned but lacking in political imagination and eventually, let us not hide the ugly facts, feeding and leading to that poisonous logic of national purity and ethnic cleansing. Make no mistake: I am not suggesting for one minute that anyone in Catalonia is an ethnic cleanser. But I am suggesting, that the “go it alone” mentality is associated with that kind of mindset.

Yes, Catalans and Basques suffered serious historical wrongs in the pre-democracy era in Spain. And I have huge, truly huge, empathy and sympathy for Catalans who want to live and vindicate their cultural and distinct political identity. For thousands, maybe the majority, this is really all it is about. But to play the “Franco card” as a justification for secession is but a fig leaf for seriously misdirected social and economic egoism, cultural and national hubris and the naked ambition of local politicians. It also runs diametrically contrary to the historical ethos of European integration. The commanding moral authority of the Founding Fathers of European integration –Schumann, Adenauer, de Gaspari and Jean Monnet himself- was a result of their rootedness in the Christian ethic of forgiveness coupled with an enlightened political wisdom which understood that it is better to look forward to a future of reconciliation and integration rather than wallow in a past, which, notably, was infinitely worse than the worst excesses of the excerable Franco.

It is sometimes said that the principles of democracy and self-determination require decision by referendum. But this of course begs the question of who is the “political self” which has the right to determine whether or not the historical nation –even if composed of several peoples- will be broken up and secession allowed. Do we allow every distinct national, cultural and linguistic “minority” in Europe to hold a referendum about secession and independence? The Corsicans? The Bretons? The Welsh? The German speakers of the Alto Adige? The list is endless given the wonderful cultural richness of Europe. Why should it not be the French as a whole, or the British as a whole, or the Italians as a whole who get to decide the future of their State? Why should it be the Catalans rather than, perhaps, all citizens of Spain who get to decide about the breakup of the Kingdom? There is no self evident answer to this question. I would argue that it is only under conditions of political and cultural veritable repression that a case for regional referenda can convincingly be made. With its extensive (even if deeply flawed) Statute of Autonomy it is simply laughable and impossible to take seriously Catalan arguments for independence, arguments which cheapen and insult meritorious –if inconclusive- cases such as the Chechens.

The European Union is struggling today with a decisional structure which is already overloaded with 27 Member States but more importantly with a socio-political reality which makes it difficult to persuade a Dutch or a Finn or a German, that they have a human and economic stake in the welfare of a Greek or a Portuguese, or, yes, a Spaniard. Why would there be an interest to take into the Union a polity such as an independent Catalonia predicated on such a regressive and outmoded nationalist ethos which apparently cannot stomach the discipline of loyalty and solidarity which one would expect it would owe to its fellow citizens in Spain? The very demand for independence from Spain, an independence from the need to work out political, social, cultural and economic differences within the Spanish polity, independence from the need to work through and transcend history, disqualifies morally and politically Catalonia and the likes as future Member States of the European Union.

Europe should not seem as a Nirvana for that form of irredentist Euro-tribalism which contradicts the deep values and needs of the Union.The assumption of automatic Membership in the Union should be decisively squelched by the countries from whom secession is threatened and if their leaders, for internal political reasons lack the courage so to say, by other Member States of the Union, France in the lead.

It would be hugely ironic if the prospect of Membership in the Union ended up providing an incentive for an ethos of political disintegration. There really is a fundamental difference to the welcoming into the Union of a Spain or a Portugal or a Greece emerging from ugly and repressive dictatorships and a Catalonia, which is part of a functioning democracy which is at this very moment is in need of the deepest expression of internal and external solidarity. In seeking separation Catalonia would be betraying the very ideals of solidarity and human integration for which Europe stands.

I hope it never comes to it, but the only merit in a Catalonian referendum would be to allow the Catalans to have the good sense decisively to reject the proposal. If there is a referendum all Europeans should hope that that is what they would do. And if they do not –well, let us wish them a bon voyage in their separatist destiny.

ZH don’t usually read it, as its tabloid-style hysteria; but here’s the key number/date makes this all interesting & sure looks like a “ceremony” planned well in advance:

Puigdemont’s time frame could see him announce the formation of a Catalan republic on FRIDAY Oct. 6 – exactly 83 years since his predecessor as regional president, Lluis Companys, also tried to declare independence. Companys was executed by the dictator Francisco Franco.

Catalan President Carles Puigdemont vowed to notify the regional parliament that voters had opted for independence in Sunday’s vote. That would trigger a process leading to a unilateral declaration of independence within 48 hours, but on Monday Puigdemont ducked the question of when he would set the clock ticking.

other ominous/ignominous events that date in history:
1955: Israel takes first delivery of french dassault ouragan jet fighters in buildup to suez crisis 1956- early 1957 Nasser.
1973: oct 6 start of mideast war, just after which OPEC puts in their 1st US boycott of oil;
1979: Volcker FED Oct 6 Sunday announces surprise 200 bps hike in Fed rate to support dollar & tryto quell inflation before it turns into hyperinflation;

most events can be found on those “this date in history” sites; others more obscure.
Note if they put it off just 1 week what the date will be—some guy named Jason is supposed to show up in a hockey mask, wreaking vengeance for the death of Jaques deMolay i think.

Scott, you are wrong about the flags. The red and black flags have nothing to do with the Ukronazis.

These are the flags of anarchists during the Spanish civil war. You can see “CNT” written on some of them (Confederación Nacional del Trabajo).

But I think you are right to the deep… CNT and leftist anarchists have nothing in common with the claims from the independentists. They are some sort of right wing pro business selfish regionalists, who don’t want to pay taxes for Spain and the Spanish anymore… Nothing to do with anarchist unionists in the 1930’s. They are even quite the opposite.

So, yes, it seems to be some kind of advertising “à la Maïdan”, with all the traditional folklore (jumping, nonsense symbolic, etc.).

I was going to write to Scott about that flag. I wondered whose it was…It has the same colors as Right Sector flag, but with a diagonal, not horizontal configuration. Luckily you have clarified it for us.

According to wikipedia, CNT are leftwing internationalists who also assist nationalist, independence movement. Sounds neocon…and you are right, very”maidanesque”.

A diverse and very informative article, the part which leaps out at me is the US military developments in Ochakov.
The US it seems plans to turn the whole of the Black Sea coast in Ukraine into one huge US military zone:

“The former Soviet republic of Moldova may actually become yet another foothold for the US military in Europe. The US Naval Facilities Engineering Command Europe Africa Southwest Asia (NAVFAC EURAFSWA) plans to construct eight training facilities for military operations in urban terrain at the Bulboaca training base in Moldova. The fact that the US Navy Department is involved makes believe the facility will host American Marines.”

Now why would the US want a massive military presence right next door to Russia?
I think we will see why in the near future.
The Catalonia issue is interesting and as I know nothing about it am learning and saying nothing, but these multiple US bases and the ever encroaching threats to Russia are, IMHO, far more important and not forgetting the new missile bases in Romania and Poland.
Some pundits believe that the US reserve currency dollar is going to lose it’s global position when China launches a gold backed currency or something similar. If Russia/China do have a scheme like this to end American militarism and global domination I would hope they are upping the tempo on their plan because I don’t think we have very long left before big trouble starts.
Why else are they doing this?

Good article Scott. Also don’t forget about Gibraltar. I recall that a few months ago some British MPs were stirring up some debate of military conflict with Spain due to some disagreements voiced by Spain regarding Gibraltar. Military conflict was far-fetched and looking quite insane at that moment, but now it could make more sense. I think we could be witnessing some intricate global chess game maneuvering again by the globalist and apparent culprits, GB, US and Israel.

Actually, this could be a pretty accurate description, maybe slightly exaggerated in some aspects, but not as much as some may think. I do like the description of why Catalonian independentists love Islamists.

“The Independists are mostly hipsters, SJWs [social justice warriors], feminists and all kinds of degenerates who welcome with open arms the Islamists (as they breed fast, hate the Spanish for their expulsion in 1492, and the Church, and do not speak Spanish), the same Islamists who will be a majority in a hypothetical Catalan Republic in two generations and will impose the Sharia. In a way, it will be fun to watch, in another way we cannot leave over half the population of that region, the silent majority, in the hands of those lunatics…, This is a distraction for their larger plans for the EU superstate. Thus, they are divided, on the one hand the MSM [mainstream media] is, albeit with little enthusiasm, pro-Independence. On the other hand, the EU has expressed a very mild support for their vassal Spain whose populace is the most enthusiastically pro-EU (little they know). You can be sure that should Catalonia become independent, they will de facto stay in the EU. Nobody is allowed to leave the EU plantation. At the end the EU does not care if its member states are nation states or regions, it could be argued that weaker mini states will be easier to rule.”

Multiple things happening with short notice round the globe now. Is empire now leaving Syria for another theater, Burma ? Meyssan thinks so, but what are the odds for Iran going with Turkey and Saudi to crush Burma ?http://www.voltairenet.org/article198141.html

As a citizen of Catalonia I confirm that the information regarding police brutality of the Spanish police is exaggerated and is in most cases false.

Images of assaults on children in a conflict in 2012, reports of brutal assaults that are later proven false, news of the murdered people who are alive, statements of hundreds of injured when only 3 people remain in the hospital the next day.

Lies are affirmed, soon they are denied but still in the mind of the independence peat as if they really had happened.

As the article says, everything responds to an advertising campaign aimed at making the population of Catalonia think that the Spanish government is fascist when the repression it actually exercised was quite mild considering that we are talking about a coup.

Personally I am afraid of the current situation that is lived in Catalonia, more knowing what happened in Ukraine. The independentistas have given a coup d’etat in the Parliament, they have created an own alternative legislation and they have been causing days to provoke the Spanish institutions and security forces in the hope that they use the violence against them.

I am grateful to The Saker for his insight into what is really happening in Catalonia.

The Ukronazi’s flag has a horizontal plain between the red and black anarchist flags have a diagonal divide.

“footage of young “protesters” jumping up and down, just like the Ukrainian extremists jumped up and down on Maidan screaming “Knife the Russians”

Jumping up and down was invented by Ukronazis you know, no single football crowd had ever imagined such a thing before Euromaidan. Did you know headbanging shows that heavy metal fans are all under the control of Jews, who move their heads just like that at the Wailing Wall?

Seriously I’ve been following this place for a while interested in it’s analysis of Ukraine and Syria, but you’ve just completely blown your credibility with this profoundly ignorant analysis of Catalonia

I write sitreps, which means situation reports with links to relevant sources.

This report looks for reemerging features of the color revolutions, during which the democratically elected governments being overthrown and nations become the objects of supra-national control, like in Ukraine, and in Catalonia.

The CIA wrote a book on the color revolutions and they reuse their material every single time when they stage these events.

When I pointed out last summer that the Antifa groups use the red -and-black flag a variation of the “blood and soil” flag similar to the Ukrainian Insurgent Army UPA and OUN the Ukrainian nationalist/fascist organization led by Stepan Bandera flag, I also got angry comments that the black-and-red flag was an anarchist flag. But, the anarchists were the first color revolutionaries.

You wrote: “no single football crowd had ever imagined such a thing before Euromaidan. ”
Excited, repetitive body movements such as repeatedly jumping up and down are positive symptoms of schizophrenia.

You bring out a good point for the law enforcement and authorities to look at the football fan clubs as possible cover for extremists groups getting together and perfecting their crowd control manipulation technique during the games that includes ranting, chanting, repetitive movements like raising their fists and jumping up and down.

You wrote: “Did you know headbanging shows that heavy metal fans are all under the control of Jews, who move their heads just like that at the Wailing Wall?”

The CIA wrote a book on the color revolutions and they reuse their material every single time when they stage these events.

It is completely irrelevent, just because the US have promoted some “revolutions” doesn’t mean they cannot happen without CIA support, everyday things go on in the world that have nothing to do with America (or Russia). The methods of succesful “revolutions” will be copied because they are successful, or because they catch on. Fans of the Scottish football team Motherwell invented the “Viking cap” they performed it to a visiting Icelandic team, it then spread to fans of the Icelandic national team who used it at Euro 2016 and now everyone does it.

Attempting to associate Catalan nationalists with Ukronazis because they jump up and down is frankly ridiculous, only paranoia might excuse it. Football fans have been doing mass jumping up and down since the 80’s (which is as long as I remember, where I’m from Rangers fans are famous for doing the “bouncy bouncy” as they call it), but you presume it proves CIA/Ukronazi involvement as if that’s the most likely explaination, you don’t follow football much do you?

I also got angry comments that the black-and-red flag was an anarchist flag. But, the anarchists were the first color revolutionaries.

No wonder. The anarchist flag symbolises socialism with the red and absence of government with the black, the fact others use the same colours to symbolise different things is irrelevant. Otherwise the Russian Red, White and Blue indicates they are really controlled by America too … honestly!

Saying the anarchists were the “first colour revolutionaries” undermines your own claim that colour revolutions are all CIA plots, since the anarchist revolutionaries outdate the CIA itself, and certainly outdate the CIA backed “revolutions” since the 90’s. You project “colour revolutions” so far back it becomes an all encompassing and therefore meaningless term. I actually do think the CIA has been sponsoring “colour revolutions”, but you are starting to presume all mass public actions must be same on utterly lame evidence.

This also was used as a flag by the 26th of July Movement

So what, the flags in the Catalan footage say CNT on them, they are CNT flags, not Ukronazi flags. Colours can be used to mean different things to different people in different countries and cultures … amazing I know!

No, I didn’t know that. I guess I learned something from you today

Yeah, it’s something I once heard Sunni fundamentalists claim, you reminded me of them, obviously completely ignorant of the metal subculture the only thing they can relate it to is a Jewish religious practice, but who knows, Muslims nod their heads when reciting to Koran too, maybe they control the Jews.

I’m deeply dissappointed, I’ve appreciated you writing on Ukraine and Syria, I tried to overlook the stuffy elderly bits. I’ve been attacked by others as an “antisemite” for linking to your stuff, but your theories on CIA Catalonia really are just plain silly, just as silly as the Clintonites theories of Russian interference.

You wrote: “therwise the Russian Red, White and Blue indicates they are really controlled by America too … honestly!”

LOL
You’re a Scottish football fan, that explains your stupidity and utmost ignorance in all things Russian.
Otherwise you should know that Russia’s tricolor flag Red, White and Blue was first used by the Peter I in 1668.
Some pictures are here.http://mypensiya.mirtesen.ru/blog/43985837062

The American states were declared in 1776.

On June 14, 1777, the Continental Congress passed an act establishing an official flag for the new nation. The resolution stated: “Resolved, that the flag of the United States be thirteen stripes, alternate red and white; that the union be thirteen stars, white in a blue field, representing a new constellation.”

The American union uses the Russian colors.
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You wrote: “Saying the anarchists were the “first colour revolutionaries” undermines your own claim that colour revolutions are all CIA plots, since the anarchist revolutionaries outdate the CIA itself, and certainly outdate the CIA backed “revolutions” since the 90’s”

1. First, you have to think who organized the CIA.

2. The CIA uses the experience that was gained by the British, German and the US secret services of organizing the Red color revolution in Russia.
They do this over and over again.
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You wrote: ‘ I tried to overlook the stuffy elderly bits.”
LOL, that’s precious. I will keep this in my collections of personal attacks on poor little Scotty.

Carnyx, please read the Saker moderation policy and stop attacking Scott. All your posts have gone to trash to the Saker to make a final decision. If you cannot follow the moderation policy at this site – then I suggest you find somewhere else to go. Mod

No pipeline from North Africa to France can go through Catalonia without going through Spain first, the author plainly has no grasp of basic geography. To avoid Spain they would have to ship to Catalonia then pipe it to France (which would make no sense because France isn’t much further away while the amount would be limited by shipping capacity in the first place) or they could lay a pipeline under the Med from north Africa to Catalonia, but this would be much more expensive than to create than a shorter undersea route from Africa to and then through Spain. The Midcat pipeline is just a Catalan-French connection of a wider Spanish network, it is the Spanish state not the Catalan that is pushing the Midcat project while the French are reluctant. If anything an independent Catalonia will put the Midcat project at greater risk.

“CRE president Philippe de Ladoucette told Reuters that in the past five years Spain had not exported one single cubic metre of gas to France.

“The Spanish energy commissioner pushes this project, but today there is no economic need for it,” he said, adding that Midcat would also not boost the security of EU gas supply.

EU Climate and Energy Commissioner Miguel Arias Canete, a Spanish national, met with French and Spanish energy ministers in Paris last year to discuss new power and gas infrastructure across the French-Spanish border.”

Rajoy trying to sell Spain as an OBOR hub has no relevence to the US because Spain cannot act as this hub without the agreement of all the EU states inbetween them and Russia/China

“Catalonia wants to take the same role Ukraine tried to play for Russia: the most important transit route to the EU.”

Spain has it’s own border with France, an Independent Catalonia will not stop Spain having a border with France, Catalonia isn’t remotely “the most important transit route to the EU”. There is European route E05 which goes through San Sebastián as an alternative to E15 which goes through Catalonia.

just let you know that the Red and Black flag is the Anarchist Spanish flag since 1920 more or less, when they unite 2 sections of the first international: the one with the black flag and the one with the red flag.
Is more or less the time of the foundation or refoundationm of the CNT (Central Nacional del Trabajo)
Normally you can read both: CNT on one edge and in the other FAI (Federacion Anarquista Iberica)
Sometimes no and then you can see only the red and black flag.
Nothing to see with the Ukronazis of Maidan.
By the way, let you know that here in Catalunya, we mainly (the people, not the media) give support to the Donbass people. Some of our people in fact has been going to fight along our brothers in arms, specially in the Prizrak brigade (sorry if it’s not well writted) in Lugansk.
The repression against some of them after their return was very heavy, organized by the goverment of the PP in MAdrid as they give total support to the Junta in Ukraina.
A lot of conexions between the fascists in all Europe.
Best regards.

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