[NL2-NL10] Deep hooks

Before you start,I'm going to give a lot of details,so bear with me please.If you were ever annoyed by someone just posting a hand without history or reads,well this is going to be your detail paradise.

I have this hand that I am torn about,whether I made a mistake or not.Would really appreciate any thoughts,comments by all you midstakes ballas.

I don't have stats on villain (no HUD),but I have reads.Here goes nothing:

Villain is spewy,open-limping,opening some times 2.5x,some times 3.5x,some times 4x,seems playback-ish. He mixes loose-passive with loose aggressive pre,seems LAG post. Obviously bad.

Here is the history:

1st hand,I 3b he folded.

2nd hand:I had Kc6c,he opened to 2.5bb,I 3bet 9bb,flop Kx2h4h and he c/f.

I called the min4b because of LOL ODDS and I see it as a profitable set mine.
I can float,raise flops,implied odds are through the roof etcetc. Decided not to because of bet size in correlation with his range for doing this and because my hand can't stand heat.

Self-explanatory.I think he is getting frustrated,don't see what he can c/r that flop for value,TT-AA 4bet pre. 99 super unlikely,not a lot of 6's in his range and I think he slowplays them.In fact I think he slowplays all of his monsters.

This post has been edited 2 time(s), it was last edited by w34z3l: 06.08.2012 18:27.

Originally posted by Ectoz

I have a huge edge on him imo,hope you think so too.Should the fact that I have an edge make me fold,being deep and all?

This.

First time he shoves AI. Might not be that wide at all.

Why get money in possible flip when you can get it in 80% favourite postflop.

Not saying it's a bad call, but it possible won't be hugely profitable if at all and it's very high variance. Sometimes he can have random crap in his range but other times his range will be QQ+/AK - especially if he understands what being deep means.

being the first time i would just give him credit, specially being deep.
still i feel that favourite fish hands to preflop direct shove are Ax (all of them) and random pairs (including QQ+), when they tilt shove with speculative hands it's by calling pre and sticking it in when they hit ANYTHING on the flop.

however you asked midstakes players, i'm not one but i just wanted to give my opinion to see how it fares vs actual midstakes players

if you had smt like 88 then I think it would be much closer than with JJ. Consider your history I think he would mostly 3-bet AA-QQ and would more likely shove all-in medium pp-s, some Ax hands (most likely AK/AQ that does not want to see flop) and some random hands (started maybe tilting again) I think your equity should be easily around 65% that should be easy call.
JJ that spot is better than AK, since JJ is 80-20 ahead against all his lower pp-s, than AK is only flipping or 45-55 behind. Also that hand ranges show how JJ vs AK doing random hands: