Steuerle said that he was not trying to single out Medicare, but was trying to focus on both Social Security and Medicare. "I think we would probably engage in a better reform if we tried to reform both systems at the same time," he said in an e-mail.

But, if Medicare is the one with the problem, why does the other need reform? And why isn't it noted that the ratio has dropped from 7:1 for a 65 year old in 1960 to 3:1 in 2030? And does he realize you don't actually get that money when they pay for your services? Maybe services are too damned expensive. But that's crazy talk. I'm sure the answer is to cut off the poor people.

"I don't click any link that's not on my 'approve' list because I certainly don't want to see other opinions or understand the mindset of people that I disagree with."

This is the same narrow-mildness as the assholes that only watch Fox News. Why not read the article on WaPo then find similar content on another site... then, with a little comprehension make your own judgement?

Car_Ramrod:Steuerle said that he was not trying to single out Medicare, but was trying to focus on both Social Security and Medicare. "I think we would probably engage in a better reform if we tried to reform both systems at the same time," he said in an e-mail.

But, if Medicare is the one with the problem, why does the other need reform?

Because they don't care about reform. They care about the government not providing these services. That's the goal.

"I don't click any link that's not on my 'approve' list because I certainly don't want to see other opinions or understand the mindset of people that I disagree with."

This is the same narrow-mildness as the assholes that only watch Fox News. Why not read the article on WaPo then find similar content on another site... then, with a little comprehension make your own judgement?

So yeah, we should totally abandon Medicare and let old people die. Well...old people that can't afford to pay for their treatments die. We are a Christian Nation, after all. Everybody knows how much Jesus hated sick people.

"I don't click any link that's not on my 'approve' list because I certainly don't want to see other opinions or understand the mindset of people that I disagree with."

This is the same narrow-mildness as the assholes that only watch Fox News. Why not read the article on WaPo then find similar content on another site... then, with a little comprehension make your own judgement?

Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf? Well, that's WaPo, Fox News, and the whole right-wing derposphere at this point. If people make a point of not reading their stuff, it's only because they already know that what they're going to read is pure, unadulterated bullshiat.

You also make it worse when the only people drawing out are the highest risk pool around.

Medicare is a great deal for insurance companies. They get to pass off the customers that cost them the most money to the feds, while reaping the profits of carrying only low risk customers that (individually) pay them thousands and thousands of dollars every year while only going to the doctor once, if at all during that year.

People still think borrowing money for Social Security and Medicare is a good idea? Jesus, how dense are you guys?

Please explain to me how keeping millions of people, who by definition do not produce things or provide services, alive financed via a massive amount of debt is somehow going to make our country stronger? Who cares if we provide massive amounts of jobs to doctor's providing them services? Those jobs disappear once we can no longer borrow money to fund the scheme!

Lots of what doctors do is pad the bill. The health care system would be better off if more doctors took a salary and provided the right level of service rather than trying to bill for as much as possible.

MattStafford:People still think borrowing money for Social Security and Medicare is a good idea? Jesus, how dense are you guys?

Please explain to me how keeping millions of people, who by definition do not produce things or provide services, alive financed via a massive amount of debt is somehow going to make our country stronger? Who cares if we provide massive amounts of jobs to doctor's providing them services? Those jobs disappear once we can no longer borrow money to fund the scheme!

MattStafford:Please explain to me how keeping millions of people, who by definition do not produce things or provide services, alive financed via a massive amount of debt is somehow going to make our country stronger?

Your right. We should ritually murder every person once they hit the age of 65. That's the way to go.

MattStafford:Please explain to me how keeping millions of people, who by definition do not produce things or provide services, alive financed via a massive amount of debt is somehow going to make our country stronger?

Because old people buy lots of things and that helps the economy. I don't understand why this has to be explained to you over and over again.

cameroncrazy1984:MattStafford: Please explain to me how keeping millions of people, who by definition do not produce things or provide services, alive financed via a massive amount of debt is somehow going to make our country stronger?

Because old people buy lots of things and that helps the economy. I don't understand why this has to be explained to you over and over again.

To be fair, that's not the reason. If we killed all old people and gave their money to poor people, the substitution effect would equalize consumption. Doing so would simply require us to murder old people.

MattStafford:People still think borrowing money for Social Security and Medicare is a good idea? Jesus, how dense are you guys?

Please explain to me how keeping millions of people, who by definition do not produce things or provide services, alive financed via a massive amount of debt is somehow going to make our country stronger? Who cares if we provide massive amounts of jobs to doctor's providing them services? Those jobs disappear once we can no longer borrow money to fund the scheme!

You are the dense one who does not understand even the most basic concepts of economics.

When are you going to admit you lied when you claimed to have earned a degree in economics?

DamnYankees:MattStafford: Please explain to me how keeping millions of people, who by definition do not produce things or provide services, alive financed via a massive amount of debt is somehow going to make our country stronger?

Your right. We should ritually murder every person once they hit the age of 65. That's the way to go.

Oh, look, another Rethuglican spouting off at the mouth about Medicare being unsustainable and people getting $3 in services for every dollar they put in and fark it, let's just sick the liberal fact checkers on him. See, I told you...oh, he's right?

MattStafford:People still think borrowing money for Social Security and Medicare is a good idea? Jesus, how dense are you guys?

Please explain to me how keeping millions of people, who by definition do not produce things or provide services, alive financed via a massive amount of debt is somehow going to make our country stronger?

You're right. We should let all those people that spent the last 40 years putting into Medicare die in the streets. I liked your idea better the first time I read about it, when it was called "Animal Farm."

max_pooper:MattStafford: People still think borrowing money for Social Security and Medicare is a good idea? Jesus, how dense are you guys?

Please explain to me how keeping millions of people, who by definition do not produce things or provide services, alive financed via a massive amount of debt is somehow going to make our country stronger? Who cares if we provide massive amounts of jobs to doctor's providing them services? Those jobs disappear once we can no longer borrow money to fund the scheme!

You are the dense one who does not understand even the most basic concepts of economics.

When are you going to admit you lied when you claimed to have earned a degree in economics?

Come now, he could have. I doubt it, but he could have.

Even the guy that graduated last in his class at med school is still called "doctor".

DamnYankees:MattStafford: Please explain to me how keeping millions of people, who by definition do not produce things or provide services, alive financed via a massive amount of debt is somehow going to make our country stronger?

Your right. We should ritually murder every person once they hit the age of 65. That's the way to go.