You don't really need to dispel the ionization. Just stay as long as you can in the water and when your ionization is about to expire you should just get out of the water and use damage reduction spells if needed and let it explode on its own. After ionization ends there is like 5 seconds before lighting storm will hit so you wont lose anything.

hmmm..... so... i just simmed my own char again once for 1-8 targets for 10000 iterations and came up with something that is confusing me.... apparently for my char crit is best on 1 target, haste is best on 3 targets, and mastery is best on 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, AND 8 targets.... ive been gemming for haste but now i dont really know what to

Getting some weird thing with Havoc where I'll cast it on a mob, then shadowburn or incinerate x3 to elsewhere, and notice the Havoc debuff still on the first mob. Haven't really been able to replicate it in controlled environments where I know for sure I'm actually hitting three spells (mostly have been noticing this while questing, and didn't bother stopping to check -- or I've chain pulled a ton of mobs and didn't leave combat).

And I can't be sure but it might only be happening when I use my mouseover macro I made for clique (I use the same mousebutton-press to either soulstone or havoc, depending on whether I'm moused over a friendly or unfriendly target).

Haven't done a thorough investigation yet (can't use target dummies as I can only test incinerate and not shadowburn on 'em), and the most likely thing is I'm just not actually hitting three spells, but it's happened often enough while questing that I can't just easily shrug it off as me thinking multiple times I've hit three spells when I haven't, so I wanted to check in with y'all and see if anyone has experienced anything similar.

Getting some weird thing with Havoc where I'll cast it on a mob, then shadowburn or incinerate x3 to elsewhere, and notice the Havoc debuff still on the first mob. Haven't really been able to replicate it in controlled environments where I know for sure I'm actually hitting three spells (mostly have been noticing this while questing, and didn't bother stopping to check -- or I've chain pulled a ton of mobs and didn't leave combat).

And I can't be sure but it might only be happening when I use my mouseover macro I made for clique (I use the same mousebutton-press to either soulstone or havoc, depending on whether I'm moused over a friendly or unfriendly target).

Haven't done a thorough investigation yet (can't use target dummies as I can only test incinerate and not shadowburn on 'em), and the most likely thing is I'm just not actually hitting three spells, but it's happened often enough while questing that I can't just easily shrug it off as me thinking multiple times I've hit three spells when I haven't, so I wanted to check in with y'all and see if anyone has experienced anything similar.

Havoc applies a buff on the caster with 3 stacks.

Havoc also applies a debuff on the targeted mob that is just the full duration of the havoc.

Havoc also applies a debuff on the targeted mob that is just the full duration of the havoc.

The debuff doesn't go away once you've casted 3 spells.

To be honest it took me some time to figure that thing out on me own ;p

On a different note i just got breath of hydra. Strange thing is that i had more procs in destruction spec than in full haste gemmed and reforged affliction. I know that 4 tries as spec one or another is it not in any case representative but that feels strange. Plus i must have lost my affli mojo as i was doing -15k dps comparing to single target destro.

Just a quick question on spell calculations: something like a chaos bolt/incinerate with a travel time - does the damage of the spell snapshot when it leaves your character or when it hits the target? i.e. if I have the unerring vision of lei shen proc and cast a chaos bolt right as it's expiring but it hits the target after the proc has expired - does this count or not? I was testing last night and found there were a few situations where I could immolate when the proc hit and still have time to *barely* get off a chaos bolt under BL or something, and wanted to know whether this was worthwhile or whether I should cast a conflag/immolate so it hits with more cushion and gets the guaranteed crit, and then cast the chaos bolt after the proc expires?

Holy crap destruction on Primordius hc. NOMNOMNOM. And its not even whoreing! Damage on Primordius + the horrors was 30 million more than the next person. There's something fun about spamming Shadowburns non stop for the last minute.

So ... what must I do here ? What gear do I choose ? Do I continue stacking crit gear as I am right now ?

Thank you for your help in advance .

Last edited by Arian21; 2013-03-28 at 11:16 PM.

I come across a quiet river, that wonders through the trees.
I stare into its running waters and fall unto my knees.
In resignation to the forest, that's held me for so long.
I close my eyes and drift away into nature's evensong.

Are you targeting a buff in particular ? Mastery ? 100% crit on SBs could be fun too
I didn't find Destro that awesome in normal mode, but I do remember (from PTR) beasts making FnB possible in HM.

I don't use FnB because it's not effective damage (we only kill adds at the start to get fully mutated, and then 5 marked adds every few minutes to keep the buffs refreshed). Just RoF and Chaos Bolt spam, cleaving Shadowburns from Vicious Horrors onto the boss. Can't really control what buff you get so its just random. Pure Mastery would be nice but its pretty much just get what you're given. I had a mixture of everything on this kill.

This must have been asked before, but is there some kind of trinket ranking? all top locks, and ones posting here as using ALL of the ToT trinkets, is it a case of get hold of 2 x522 trinkets asap then the differences are not major? (I know unerring is op for Demo).