As a matter of fact the title is even more misleading. It claims the men were shot for shoplifting beer. The article states they did not get away with
the beer. The title should've stated that they were shot for attempting to shoplift beer.

The two men tried to steal beer and got caught by the store, they ran, and left the beer. An hour or less later a cop found them and approached them.
Something happened. A shot was fired. The two men ran into the woods. They were hiding. When they came out of the woods to the road the police shot
one of them multiple times in the torso.

They definitely didn't deserve to be shot! And yes they got shot for trying to steal beer!

They're skateboarders with social media accounts, they would have been caught, the next day, or week at the skate park...The man hunt for a failed
midnight beer run is ridiculous!!! Shame on those cops!!!

I should have known. Someone comes along and calls someone's position indefensible, because a skateboard is a weapon, and it is plain to see that
was not the posters position. Just an emotional statement at the end of his post.

Then we get the whole, oh I'm only talking about weapons when I said that guy was fos. Read my posts.

Why can't anyone bother to read the OP, the story, or the posts they reply to before pooping on people.

Hubris abounds, as per usual.

I was also under the impression both were killed. I read so many today, this time I may be conflating something. According to your source, they both
fled and one was shot when emerging. Was one fleeing while already shot, and the other shot after? We're they both shot on emerging? So much is
unclear.

Whomever said they probably threw the skateboard to buy a few seconds to flee rings true to me. Either that or a classic case of police escalation, I
mean, is attempted shoplifting even a crime? I bet they were sized up for a resisting charge on sight. So the officer is already considering them
felons, before the interaction. Makes the jump to shooting psychologically easier.

Honestly, at this point I think law enforcement officers should not attempt to pursue, or physically engage anyone that is not committing a violent
felony.

There are just too many chances that the situation will escalate to the point where physical force (sometimes deadly force) is used by either the
suspect, the officer, or both.

I think that when the police encounter anyone committing anything other than a violent felony, they should give an order for the suspect to stop and
lay prone on the ground for cuffing.

If they do not cooperate and decide to run, so be it. Take the report and call it a day.

Once it is known that the police will not pursue, or engage any other way than verbally for crimes less than non violent felonies, people will simply
run away unharmed. No altercation drastically lessens the chance of the situation escalating to a use of force scenario.

Officer involved shootings will decrease substantially.

I can say that there would be a good chance that I would shoot somebody that was violently swinging a skateboard (with metal trucks nonetheless) at my
head. That goes for anyone swinging a bat, metal pipe, golf club, hammer etc at me.

If that makes me a pu**y, so be it. I would rather be a pu**y than be severely injured or dead (no longer able to provide for my family) such as in
these cases.

Maybe he felt that after being attacked with a skateboard the other suspect was going to try to kill or cause harm to him as well.

Say as a private citizen, if you carried a concealed weapon, and you got into a physical altercation with two guys, one swings a skateboard, bat, tire
iron, or whatever at you and you shoot him.

The second person runs into the woods, or into his car, or into another room, or wherever, and then comes charging back at you (after his friend
already attacked you with a potentially deadly weapon and you shot him), what would you think/feel/assume his intentions were?

I can say that I would probably feel his intent was to cause me bodily harm. I would then give him verbal commands to stop advancing towards me, and
if he didn't, I would feel that using a firearm to stop the threat would be justified.

I wasn't there, I don't know what happened, and I honestly don't care.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04
I understand about innocent victims..2 days ago I watched some piece of crap wanna be gangbanger get a verdict of manslaughter for shooting a good
friend of mine in the face with a 12 gauge..it was a robbery and they got about a hundred bucks. 2 pled guilty and got 5 years..they get time and a
half since they have been in custody so they will really do about 4 years..that's what a life is worth. The 3rd guy who had his verdict the other day
might get 7-8 years, he has another murder and an attempted murder to go so he will hopefully get life between all of it.
Sorry not trying to derail just letting you know I complety understand having gone to about 40 some court dates/trial in support of my friends
family

originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
Honestly, at this point I think law enforcement officers should not attempt to pursue, or physically engage anyone that is not committing a violent
felony.

Just as a point of curiosity, what's the deal with arresting on a misdemeanor not witnessed by the LEO? I have this vague recollection of a LEO
friend (actually have a few) telling a story the punchline of which included them not being allowed to arrest on a misdemeanor they didn't personally
see occur.

Not that it would apply here, as I suspect the store owner would press charges, but if the guy drops the beer and runs for it and the store owner's
not willing to sign the thing that says they'll appear in court, can you arrest at all?

This is just getting surreal......these 2 were shot for running from the police and having skateboards......the mindset of police being so fearful of
the average citizen surely must be raising eyebrows......as much as every citizen having the right to carry a firearm seems free or and act of freedom
it really seems that it is not at all,it seems to create fear and some really twitchy trigger fingers.....this whole situation is one big clusterf###

originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
Honestly, at this point I think law enforcement officers should not attempt to pursue, or physically engage anyone that is not committing a violent
felony.

Just as a point of curiosity, what's the deal with arresting on a misdemeanor not witnessed by the LEO? I have this vague recollection of a LEO
friend (actually have a few) telling a story the punchline of which included them not being allowed to arrest on a misdemeanor they didn't personally
see occur.

Not that it would apply here, as I suspect the store owner would press charges, but if the guy drops the beer and runs for it and the store owner's
not willing to sign the thing that says they'll appear in court, can you arrest at all?

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