This drunk down the street from me has been nagging me for weeks to take on his Male Rottweiler 6 years old Duke he is extremely human aggressive around dogs he is a teddy bear, Taz even gets along with him. He took a liking to me a few months back but his body language said if i make the wrong move he wouldn't hesitate. Im really thinking about taking him on. I have secure properties for freedom, im out with my dogs most of the day. Thing is Rottweilers scare the sh** out of me their so head strong especially males but its not because he may tear my arm off i'm not scared of dog bites in the least its just confidence i'm scared i'd kill them if i make one wrong move its his life on the line. I adore the breed i love them more than the wolfdog. do i give him a chance or should it be a vets appointment. Its not his fault he is so aggressive the owners a paranoid drunk and brought him up that way.

wow.. that is a huge call..... I dont know I would have the metal strength to play mind games with such a hige dog.also Taz playing with him in the street may be difference than bringing him home into his " place"...how old is he?.I would def get him a vet check before hand .. both my sisters rotti;s have had cruciate lig donee and or cancer removed... $$$$$$$who knows how heavy this dog has been over the years..

Personally I wouldn't. If you are in the least scared the dog will pick up on it & will challenge you constantly. That will put your other dogs in a very difficult position, because they will want to defend you. It could cause an enormous free for all, with everybody getting hurt.

MissRogue wrote:This drunk down the street from me has been nagging me for weeks to take on his Male Rottweiler 6 years old Duke he is extremely human aggressive around dogs he is a teddy bear, Taz even gets along with him. He took a liking to me a few months back but his body language said if i make the wrong move he wouldn't hesitate. Im really thinking about taking him on. I have secure properties for freedom, im out with my dogs most of the day. Thing is Rottweilers scare the sh** out of me their so head strong especially males but its not because he may tear my arm off i'm not scared of dog bites in the least its just confidence i'm scared i'd kill them if i make one wrong move its his life on the line. I adore the breed i love them more than the wolfdog. do i give him a chance or should it be a vets appointment. Its not his fault he is so aggressive the owners a paranoid drunk and brought him up that way.

ive got a rottweiler and a staff and if a rottie of that age is like that hey might be a bit too old to try and bring him round to you,a bit of a big breed to fend off if it decides to go off on 1, on the other hand maybe a bit of tlc might work,its a hard , but i think coz i have kids id walk on by even tho i love rotties.might be a an idea to get to know it a bit better and befriend it more first if u decide to try and take it on

He is up to date with his health checks and vaccinations. He's been down my allotments with Taz and Cassie which Taz thinks is his territory studpi thing is he's quite submissive to dogs. I know if i am scared he will pick up on it but the thought of him being put down because he was not brought up right. i know he wasn't he was always kept away from the family even as a pup so he has never been part of a pack which is why i think he rolls over for dogs because he wants to be part of the pack so badly. I think TLC will help alot and i do plan on getting to know him alot mroe before i take him home.

Caryll wrote:Personally I wouldn't. If you are in the least scared the dog will pick up on it & will challenge you constantly. That will put your other dogs in a very difficult position, because they will want to defend you. It could cause an enormous free for all, with everybody getting hurt.

I understand that and if i ever thought he cold hurt my dogs with my cassie and blondy i wouldn't dare do it but he is so submissive to dogs even when Taz has pinned him. If i show i can handle my dogs infront of him which i can he should soon come around. The options are he has a vets appointment but doesn't come home or I have him for a few weeks/month it goes wrong and its a vet appointment or it'll all work out great.

I understand that he may be submissive to dogs, but you say he is agressive to humans. This puts your own dogs in a very difficult situation. If the rottie is agressive towards you, your dogs WILL have a go.

It isn't fair on the dogs you have now, and they should be your first priority.

Caryll wrote:I understand that he may be submissive to dogs, but you say he is agressive to humans. This puts your own dogs in a very difficult situation. If the rottie is agressive towards you, your dogs WILL have a go.

It isn't fair on the dogs you have now, and they should be your first priority.

However, the decision ultimately is yours.

Thats what i was saying he will learn off my dogs that it is not acceptable and i am in charge before attacks take place and if there is any bad energy that could result in a fight i will step in and if there is ever a fight i will step in again.

I really think you need to think of taz, blondy and cassie. I completely understand that you wanna help this poor dog whose been ruined by humans, and all credit to you for that, but I think if you take him on, it'll end badly and you'll regret it big time.

i know its risky but if i dont do it no one else will. I'm not prepared to sit around and not try anything, if it doesn't work out between my pack and him, i'll call a Rotty rescue or vets, but besides that i'm going to take him on.

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Shontelle wrote:I really think you need to think of taz, blondy and cassie. I completely understand that you wanna help this poor dog whose been ruined by humans, and all credit to you for that, but I think if you take him on, it'll end badly and you'll regret it big time.

Totally agree.

MissRogue wrote:i know its risky but if i dont do it no one else will. I'm prepared to sit around and not try anything, if it doesn't work out between my pack and him, i'll call a Rotty rescue or vets, but besides that i'm going to take him on.

MissRogue, nobody can make your mind up for you, but I personally think you are a fool to do this. You are being unfair to your present dogs and yourself, and ultimately the rottie as well. Please think again.

"DONT DO IT "your asking for trouble dont be a mugthink of your brood you dont know the extent of the dog problemsand as for being worried that you might kill him if he reacts aggresivelets be real a dog that dont totaly know you will not have the basic pecking order engrained in him so if it comes down to it he will come off best as he will not know when to stop.dont underestimate the power of a rottie

If you decide to take him on ( which I think you have already)Just be aware that all the Rotti's we have owned... dont like sharing... They want you all to them self and are very protective of you.I hope it works out well for you.. and I hope your other dogs understand x

bigwazza wrote:"DONT DO IT "your asking for trouble dont be a mugthink of your brood you dont know the extent of the dog problemsand as for being worried that you might kill him if he reacts aggresivelets be real a dog that dont totaly know you will not have the basic pecking order engrained in him so if it comes down to it he will come off best as he will not know when to stop.dont underestimate the power of a rottie

My pack will be fine i would never put them in danger, I have also called in a fav of an experienced handler where Duke will spend christmas with him and his four other Rotties as i do not want Duke to be with his current owner any longer he is just making it worse.I would never dare underestimate the power of any Rotti, dog for that matter i have great respect for this species, my hand is going to be the only hand that feeds him so we'll see what rules him his hunger or human aggression. I hear about it daily but i have the chance to help I can't sit around and let another dog be destroyed because of his stupid owner. Thats not in me and i really hope it never is.

Caryll wrote:And I really hope that you don't live to regret it..............

Good luck, you'll need it!

whether it all goes wrong and i end up with half a leg or arm i'd never regret trying to save an animal, it'll be my fault not his. But thanks i know im going to need all the luck i can get. Time to turn the knowledge into experience.

Caryll wrote:And I really hope that you don't live to regret it..............

Good luck, you'll need it!

whether it all goes wrong and i end up with half a leg or arm i'd never regret trying to save an animal, it'll be my fault not his. But thanks i know im going to need all the luck i can get. Time to turn the knowledge into experience.

This is nothing against you, and I hope you take this the right way, but I'm more concerned about the dogs you already have. You can look after yourself, but they rely on your judgement.

But, as I said, it's your decision. You asked for people's opinions, and I think everyone has advised you against this course of action, but you have chosen to ignore this advice. Why did you ask?

Miss rogue I would love another dog/puppy I feel I have everything to give but I have harmony in my house and one of the dogs is very dominant. I wouldnt bring another dog into that as its not fair on my dogs or the other dog I dont want to upset anything. If I was in your shoes Id be on the phone to rottie rescues to try to place this dog in with people that can do right by him whatever that may be.

CaryllI can handle my dogs around other dogs and i can handle other dogs around mine I don't see a problem. Honestly Caryll i asked people because i thought i'd get alot better responses, saying do all you can to save this dogs life because this is a dog loving/respecting site isn't it and to be honest i can't believe so many refuse to help a dog no matter the consequences.Gem I am at risk not my dogs and not this Rotti either, I don't get how this can not be seen. I would never risk it and if i thought even for a second they were i would never do this. there are no Rottie rescues near me the only other expert is the guy i talked about, he's turned many dogs around and i'v worked with him many times.

MissRogue, nobody here is doubting your genuine need to rescue this poor dog, and we all applaud you for it. It's just that we can all see a possible problem, whereas you don't seem able to. I think you've asked our opinion/advice assuming that we would all agree that it's the best thing to do - we don't, and that's our opinion. You have the right to your opinion & we have the right to ours. I hope you don't take that as a criticism, it isn't meant that way.

As I said, it's your decision and I truly hope that you are making the right one. Good luck. I really do hope that you can turn this dog around with minimum disruption to your other dogs' lives.

Caryll wrote:MissRogue, nobody here is doubting your genuine need to rescue this poor dog, and we all applaud you for it. It's just that we can all see a possible problem, whereas you don't seem able to. I think you've asked our opinion/advice assuming that we would all agree that it's the best thing to do - we don't, and that's our opinion. You have the right to your opinion & we have the right to ours. I hope you don't take that as a criticism, it isn't meant that way.

As I said, it's your decision and I truly hope that you are making the right one. Good luck. I really do hope that you can turn this dog around with minimum disruption to your other dogs' lives.

I have analized this whole situation so many times over and over in my head its hurting. I know it is isn't going to be easy and it isn't going to be hard it's going to much much more. But over the last few days after seeing him daily i'm picking up on certain things that will add years to this dogs life. like the other day Taz was digging down the allotments, Duke was sitting there watching him would not take his eyes off of Taz's action, when Taz left to go do something else Duke went upto the hole and copied Taz, he followed him everywhere and he copied all what he did. When i stood by the gate and called to my Dogs Duked watched me feeding them treats and he wanted the treats, granted he didn't come forward but he watched the treats and did not try to intimidate me for the first time in weeks. Perhaps i should of said this early but i'v been busy defending myself, no defending not the word but you get it.

Miss Rogue I do realise that its you who is at risk but do you not think if the rottie turns on you your dogs will want to help you out. Sometimes they have such really rubbish homes that when the situation changes you have a total different dog I think you must have soul searched to want to help this boy out but you cant blame us all for being worried about you. The reason I said about rottie rescue was they would probably no how best to help him . If you decide your going to take him on then good on you I hope you get a great dog

I wouldnt take him on either a girl at work her bf had two ones old who is lovely but the other was a nightmare so agressive some one with a farm was going to take him off them but he turned agressive to the owner of the farm so they taken him back this rotti is the biggest ive ever seen he was like a bear sadly two months ago he had to be put down as he biten his owner trying to get in the house after the grand kids he hated them and was always locked away in the garden but when the dad opened the door and tried to get passed and when he tried to stop him he bitten him i think its too risky as they are big powerful dogs and if he is aready aggressive u aint going to get that out of him

youngkaiser wrote: if he is aready aggressive u aint going to get that out of him

I don't believe that at all.

Well its been a crazy day. Me and luke took duke over to his today. it wasn't easy getting him out of his house but once out he settled. in the country lane we decided to tire him out, Duke outside the jeep me holding the lead him jogging along side. he was so exhausted by the end of it, luke was able to take his lead off and he wasn't bothered. he's very food orientated doesn't look like he's had a good meal in a while. so right now he's in the conservitary at lukes for the night before he meets other dogs. watching him today he looks more like a territorial aggression which is good news so hopefully it'll work out. I'll be going up there tomorrow morning and see him meet the other dogs and we'll go from there i guess.

I personally wouldnt take him on and thats all I am going to say. But good on you for giving him a chance and I hope all goes well for you and your expanding pack fingers crossed there are some good stories to come and not any bad ones.

Duke settled in up Luke's now loves the other dogs out together pretty much all day and the other dogs are bringing Duke closer to Luke everyday. showing him how to behave around him teaching him in a way but yeah Luke successfully places the lead on him and once he does he'll do anything Luke wants they'v gone jogging together with the lead on he can pet him and wrestle with him Duke turns into a natural bosterous pup, but once the lead is off he's a different dog so Luke is using the lead to his advantage just having it wraped around his arm he can interact with him. he thinks he's been used as a guard dog on leash he'll play and interact with people and be a perfect family dog but once off leash he goes into work/guard mode which is harder to work with than a natural aggression becasue its been drilled into his mind instead its slow but there is progress. I'v been up there a few times trying to creat a bonde with Duke with some raw meat and it all seems to be alright while im behind the stable door. Luke can get alot closer, but thats obviouse Luke is older and much more experienced. We'v even been talking about him keeping Duke which i'v got no complaints about.I'v not taken my lot up there yet so no photo's but i'll get some of Duke with the other Rotties soon enough

What a different dog Duke has become, he's still a little shy but not agressive to me, luke, his wife or his kids he plays with them all without the lead and he looks so much better he's put on so much weight and his coat is looking fantastic on a raw diet but what he will do absolutely anything for is raw carrots and cabbage he loves them, toses them around, buries them and eats them lol he loves luke's rabbitts as well for some reason their his kids pets but Duke has never tried to hurt them, he shared his cabbage and carrots with them, the other day he dropped his ball by one of them encouraging them to play kinda thing obviousely they didn't but anyways he's doing great and ill get some pictures up soon.

Marty wrote:Don't know what i'm doing wrong Samson was brought up with a rabbit and he'd have it at every chance, must be the terrier in him

Keep a lead on him and bring him to the rabbitt for him to smell the rear, watch your dogs body language and correct him when its bad, I done the same with my dogs with my chickens and they got two lots of terrier in them being part Jack russell. You could try popping a muzzle on his for the first few introduction and correct him.

My lot loved my cats/my mates cats i had off them before i found them homes, they would play, groom each other, Taz would even try to bring home strays he'd be so soft and they'd follow for a little while, he got his way one time when he found a cat tied up to a tree took it home only for the night for RSPCA to collect but they seriousely let me down and the cat infested my home with fleas over night, With cassie days old pups this wasn't good, had to rip up all carpets throw away soft furnishing,including my wardrobe contents and bed/beddings, wash adult dogs and vacuumed the pups (with a keyboard vacuum) every day for about a two weeks nightmare cost my hundreds!!!!!!!!!Done and dusted now though YAY!

Mel Skora wrote:Gosh that sounds a little extreme.. you could have just flea bombed the whole house... only take 3 hours to work and then you can come home again.Taz sounds like a great pup

Cassie's pups were only two days old i couldnt take them out in the middle of winter/wales autumn and i had no one at the time to take them in. so flea bombing and using any products was out of the question.