Hi,Anders Dahl left Trondheim on May 4th, not April 5th. (In Norway, we list the date as DD-MM-YYYY)I strongly believe he arrived America in Philadelphia on May 23rd, 1881, sailing on the S/S Illinois, departuring Liverpool.But I can't locate him in the indexed register, so his name might be wrongly transcribed.You should check the original manifest to see if he is listed.

Ingeborg and the children left Trondheim on May 10th, not October 5th!They arrived New York on May 31st 1882 on the S/S Batavia, sailing from Liverpool.Indexed names:Igneborg DallAug DallArnold DallMaria DallIgneborg Dall (Signe Dahl?)Thora Dahl

Jan Peter

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Dear Moderators:

I checked the ships arrival list and I could not see the S.S. Batavia arrival on May 31 of 1882.

According to Jan Peters findings there were Norwegian immigrants on board.

Ingeborg and the children left Trondheim on May 10th, not October 5th!They arrived New York on May 31st 1882 on the S/S Batavia, sailing from Liverpool.Indexed names:Igneborg DallAug DallArnold DallMaria DallIgneborg Dall (Signe Dahl?)Thora Dahl

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Hi Jan Peter. Do you have a photo of this ship s.s. Batavia Or any history on this ship?

Jan Peter, I see that Gusta Hellesen and her children Sigrid Gunnhild and Hermand Rieder immigrated to U.S. in 1906...but there should have been two more children, Carl, b. July 10, 1900 and Harald Eivind born Jan 27, 1893.

Anders Rasmussen Nordtømme Dahl 1790 - 1855 was my great-grandfather, He was married to Gunhild Sivertsdatter Bordal 1802 - 1869. They had a large family one of their sons was Anders Andersen Nordtømme 1835 - 1940.

You seem to know this man as Anders Andersen Dahl. He was married to Ingeborg Andersdatter Torbergsen Rembraut 1843 - n1925. The family originated with Rasmus Ellevsen Vold 758 - 1801, who gave his family the farm name of Nordtømme. As the family moved away from the farm, they began using Nordtømme Dahl, with many of the family eventually dropping Nordtømme altogether. Exactly what transition the name took with, Anders Andersen is not clear to me, however this is the same person you have been discussing.

I have seen several discussions regarding a person you call “Simon Braekkan or Brekkan. This is a family that originates in Sors Tu, Bræk, near Soknedal, Midtre Gauldal, Norway. The family name revolves about “Bræk” with many variations of spelling. It is my understanding that the suffix of “en” or “an”, has a similar meaning as “of” or “in” the English use, as a prefix. In other words - it does not change the name.

I am not familiar with a “Bræken/Bræk” named Simen, however when you wonder about the relationship to Anders Andersen Dahl, I do know this - Rasmus Ellevsen Vold was married to Siri Andersdatter Bræken/Bræk 1802 - 1869. This should illustrate that they are closely related if Simon is of this same Bræk family. Further - Their cousin, Anders Olsen Brækan (Bræk) had served in the military at Vadsø Festning a fort in the most northern part of Norway in the City of Vardø. He had been to Grense Jakobselv several times to get firewood for the fort in Vardø. On a clear day Grense Jakobselv can be seen to the East from the Vardø area, 55-km (35 miles) across the Varangerfjord.

Anders Olsen Bræckan(Bræken )1736 - 1801, Anders Rasmussen Nordtømme Dahl 1790 - 1855, Hans Estensen Kveberg 1812 - 1891, and Anders Nilsen Urstrømmen 1814 - 1858, were the original settlers of Grense Jakobselv in 1851. They raised families there until the early 1900s. Few, if any people reside there year-round at this time.

Hello Mr. Dahl:This is a very nice surprise to receive a message from you. Thank you for your information! Are you located in Norway? Who was your Grandfather from the Dahl lineage?

Regarding Simon Braekken. I am not sure about his relationship to Siri Andersdatter Braek. According to the 1875 census it shows that Simon was born in Vaage Præstegjeld Gulbransdalen. This is some distance from Horrig?

Also, in my research I believe that Anders married a Berit Arentsdatter before he married Gunnhild. I believe they may have had a child Siri born in 1819? but she may have died young as the next child born in 1824 was also named Sirri, but parents were Anders and Gunnhild. Do you know anything about this?