Art professor and multi-media stuff-maker Kjellgren Alkire shares his inspiring thoughts with the Rundmans. Lots of wisdom in this episode: Talent and inspiration don't exist! Good art comes from generosity! And Jonathan confesses his seething masculinity issues.

Dr. Dawn Rundman is a developmental psychologist. Jonathan Rundman is a musician. They’re married. CREATIVITY DRILL is their podcast! Join the Rundmans as they hang out with cool guests and talk about life in the creative arts.