Essential - the phone company led by Android co-founder Andy Rubin - has had some difficulty in getting a stable 8.0 Oreo update released. After three beta releases, the company is not quite satisfied that the update is ready for general release. Because of these protracted issues, Essential has announced plans to skip the 8.0 release entirely in favor of 8.1, which will "push the public release back a couple weeks," according to the company.

Not even a phone with close to stock Android, built by the very same person who developed Android in the first place, can be updated to a newer Android release without delays, stability issues, and general problems - to the point where they're skipping a version altogether.

Why? Security as defined by asshats like yourself and Thom is nothing but an illusion to begin with. There is no such thing.

And the sooner losers like you realize this, the better off we'll be, because maybe people will start questioning the downright stupid things they're doing with their phones and computers.

Yeah, not running unpatched vulnerabilities with public exploit kits available for them is an illusion... whatever you say... Just don't tell that to the people whose phones got futexed (aka had malware gain root access)

Look, I don't like it either that my expensive Android pocket computer will become non-secure after 3 years because of some arbitrary update policy, but I will not become a Google apologist because of that (they 'll have to pay me to do that).

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Why? Security as defined by asshats like yourself and Thom is nothing but an illusion to begin with. There is no such thing.

And the sooner losers like you realize this, the better off we'll be, because maybe people will start questioning the downright stupid things they're doing with their phones and computers.

Yeah, not running unpatched vulnerabilities with public exploit kits available for them is an illusion... whatever you say... Just don't tell that to the people whose phones got futexed (aka had malware gain root access)

Look, I don't like it either that my expensive Android pocket computer will become non-secure after 3 years because of some arbitrary update policy, but I will not become a Google apologist because of that (they 'll have to pay me to do that). "

The only reason their phones got (if that actually ever happened,given how untrustworthy the security crowd is these days,not that you guys ever were) affected was due to to he fact that they were engaged in things that they should have known better than to do, like doing things online that made them vulnerable.

Remember the old saying, Stupid is as Stupid does.

And depending on 3rd parties to make one self "secure" is *STUPID*, especially if they have their hands out for $$$$$ in order to make you "secure" like the moronic online data backup/protection outfits.....