Jerusalem: Prophecy in our Lifetime

There is a passage found in the Guidebook to the Supernatural i.e. the Bible, that tells us that in that in the latter days, the end of days, the end-times, Jerusalem will become a cup of trembling to all the nations of the earth. Here is the passage:

Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling to all the surrounding peoples, when they lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem. And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it.” (Zechariah 12:2,3).

Those who take the position that Israel does not figure into end time prophecy, or worse that all of this was fulfilled 2000 years ago – Preterism – shrug their collective shoulders with indifference at the recent round of violence in Jerusalem. Let’s strip it down and expose what is going on. First, there was no Israel until 1948. In fact if we were to go back a hundred years or so not many people really cared about Jerusalem. It didn’t figure into international politics. I quote Mark Twain, Samuel Clemens, in Politics, Prophecy & the Supernatural, who went to the holy land in that late part of the 19th century and found it nearly abandoned. This was because the later rain had not fallen in Israel for almost 2000 years. Without this rainfall it is almost impossible to grow crops that would sustain a population. Then around the turn of the 20th century the later rain began to fall. After WWI the Ottoman empire was dismantled by the victors, the British and the French. The newly formed countries of Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon and Palestine were formed. After WWII the British pulled out of Palestine, which prompted the war between the Arabs and Jews for control of Palestine. This came after almost 6 million Jews were killed in the concentration camps of the Third Reich. In 1948, after Israel had defeated the combined Arab armies, the United Nations voted to recognize the nation of Israel. However the Palestinians call this, the day of catastrophe and therein lies the problem that has plagued the region for decades. What is interesting to note, and I have stated this before, is that Jordan has a population of almost 75% Palestinian.

In the eyes of HAMAS and Hezbollah, Israel does not have the right to exist. Add Iran and Syria to this equation and we have the current morass that is the Middle East today. Jerusalem is erupting in violence as I post this BLOG. Will we see another Intifada? Are the current demonstrations by Palestinians a precursor to an all out war? Remember, that King Abdullah, of Jordan stated that unless there was a two state solution there would be a regional war within a year. Well a year has almost passed and there is no two state solution. I would say that the so-called peace process is dead in the water. The Palestinians demand Jerusalem as their capital and so do the Israeli’s and therein lies the rub. Israeli’s president Benjamin Netanyahu has declared that Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel. There is also talk of the third temple being built, which again is another prophecy that we are told will happen in the last days. The recent outbreak of violence is yet another marker, for those who have eyes to see, that we are in the last days and that at some point we will see the fulfillment of the Ezekiel 38 prophecy. My friend Bill Salus will join me tomorrow on Acceleration Radio. While we have different views on whether or not the Ezekiel war comes first or the Psalm 83 war, we both agree that Jerusalem has become a cup of trembling…. http://www.debka.com/article/8653/

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Franksaid

Future Quake had a recent guest talking about the Georgia Guidestones, and he felt that something on the NWO’s agenda was going to happen in the month of March, and he possibly implicated that the third temple may begin construction.

I don’t know, for me I feel that the groundwork for fulfilled prophecy is quite possibly being laid right now. We have signs in the heavens and the sun (UFOs and alleged earth sized ships), earthquakes in diverse places, and alot of folks going after itching ears doctrine and theology of demons, all of which is outlined in scripture as an indicator of the last days.

One of the next things to look forward to is us believers being delivered to the churches and synagogues.

we are definitely in exciting times, may the Lord come soon, and deliver us in His time.

DavidBMusicsaid

The time is getting very near for deliverance! May we remember to keep our oil lamps filled and be on constant watch! If we are persecuted by the churches who’ve gone the way of Baalam and Cain, we must remember to daily, put on our spiritual “armor” so that the Truth be known! The rulers and principalities of the ages have almost come to an end as the devil will be locked away. With Jeshuah as the true Messiah, the lion will lie down with the lamb and true peace will be on earth. Thy Kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven! Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty. Who Was, and Is, and Is to come!

Shirleysaid

In A Momentsaid

Nothing like a bit of history to fill in some of those blanks! Thank you L.A.
Being that historical background is an important component to understanding much of Biblical Scripture, I would like to lay out a couple of questions that add to what L.A. has posted on today:
**COMPARISONS/DIFFERENCES**
~Hebrews; Israelites; Palestinians
~the [former] kingdoms of Israel and Judah
I’m thinking that all of these are important and somehow factor into our full understanding of events currently playing out.
Yahweh’s blessings to all.

Gidgetsaid

In A Moment,
I recently read an interesting article on Rodrigo Silva’s website regarding the 10 lost tribes of Israel, leaving the two remaining as Judah and Benjamin, whose terriority included the city of Jerusalem. If I recall the history on this, the other 10 tribes were forced to disperse due to embracing pagan gods and that is why they are referred to as “lost”… However, Paul seemed to write to some of them specifically in his letters, knowing they were Israelites who had dispersed to places like Greece, I believe it was. I just read about a people in Africa that had claimed to be Israelites and DNA testing was done to prove it – cool. I’m not sure if this is where you were going with your question on comparisons, but thought it might be helpful.

I love how there was no rain until God’s covenant people began to regather back to the promised land. Isn’t there a verse in Ezekiel 36 or 37 about how God will cause the desert to bloom again? And, I believe it’s in Lynn’s book in more detail about how they became a nation in one day when U.S. President Truman decided to recognize them after WWII. I read that Truman read scripture so perhaps he saw God’s plan right before him and acted accordingly?

I’m going through a wonderful study on Daniel right now and find it interesting that 70 years plays a big part and it seems to be considered a generation in Biblical terms, a number of completeness. Well, not to date set or anything, but 70 years from 1948 puts us at 2018, back up 7 years for Jacob’s trouble (7 year tribulation) and we’re at 2011 – I guess we keep our eyes peeled for a peace treaty/covenant to be signed? Or, if we look at the 6 day war when they took Jerusalem in 1967 as the starting point, it places 70 years at 2037, back up 7 years to 2030 as a possible start point of the tribulation period… I think it’s intersting that Jesus said not a “generation” would pass before we’d see His coming once these things take place (referring to the regathering of Israel). Israel truly is God’s timepiece! Let’s continue to watch and pray for her…

In A Momentsaid

Sorry….I really didn’t explain what I was getting at about the “comparison/difference” thing. Oops.
Gidget, thanks for taking the plunge. What you wrote is just fine and full of great information. Rodrigo’s “Beast From the East” website is full of Biblical history. Nice to know you visit it:^D
Here’s the basic ideas I’m throwing out: Israel was split into two nations after the death of King Solomon with Israel morphing into the northern kingdom with its capital of Samaria (!!) and Judah becoming the southern kingdom where Jerusalem was capital. Now this is where things get kind of odd. Jerusalem is no longer a part of ISRAEL but of a newly minted kingdom! And ISRAEL embraces Samaria (!!) as her chief city. The Assyrian and Babylonian exiles eventually overcame both kingdoms (Assyria north and Babylon south) resulting in the global Diaspora and so-called Lost Tribes, setting the stage for future prophetic fulfillment. Israel is no more. Neither is Judah for that matter. Our Lord Yeshua is referred to as “the Lion of the tribe of Judah.” The human propensity to play the naming game now becomes obvious. Aha! Which segues into this little ditty:
Hebrews. Israelites. Palestine/Palestinians. Jews. (there are Palestinian Jews!) How do we break this “naming game” down in order for us to understand the present day [prophetic] crisis and what should be the main concern of those who have received Christ Jesus? Perhaps more of a focus on Jerusalem and SPIRITUAL Israel is what’s called for, rather than an overall zealousness towards the NAME “Israel.” (And this leads to the hot button topic of Zionism….)
Yahweh’s grace be shining upon you:^D

Gidgetsaid

Hi In a Moment,
I know, the Beast from the East website is really informative and comes from a different view than some of the traditional eschatology teachings on Rome, etc… I don’t know that many Christians consider an Islamic Anitchrist, but hey, they already do beheadings, then add in Sharia Law, and their god is certainly not the one true God of the Bible. I find it interesting about the two legs of the statue dream in Daniel may possibly represent the western and eastern legs of the Roman empire. And, as for the “people” of the prince that shall come, history shows that the eastern legions of the Roman empire are the actual forces that destroyed the temple in 70 a.d. These people who did the deed were Assyrians and so forth not Romans from Rome even though they were technically under that empire. Learning some of this kind of threw out the Left Behind series version for me, although, those were a fun read!

In regards to your remarks on Zion, I found this scripture and thought of you:

“For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring back the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will enter into judgment with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and have divided up my land. And the L-RD roars out of Zion, and utters his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shake; but the L-RD will be a shelter for his people and a stronghold for the children of Israel. So shall you know that I am the L-RD your G‑d dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and no strangers shall pass through her any more.” Joel 4:1-2, 16-17

Davesaid

I too thank you for the bit of history. In Seminary, you had to be selective on the classes you took and it was kinda ironic, I studied Old and New Testament History but no where was general modern Jewish history taught. For instance just knowing how and when the state of Israel was formed, when and the other middle eastern countries, offers a boost to the door of understanding (prophecy). Blessings and am looking forward to the Wed program with Bill Salas.
Just a plug for LA’s Wed. program, if you have a cell ph. and cannot get to the computer, the conference line works very well. In Christ, Dave

I agree with you Hector. If Obama and his minions totally forsake the State of Israel, judgement is imminent for the United States. This could be the reason that America does not figure into the end-time scenario at all.

Good observation.

Kevin J.

DavidBMusicsaid

Jesus said: “A house divided against itself cannot Stand” If I understand the Illuminati work of darkness correctly, both the USA and The Zionist State of Israel are under their control.
Israel was not created out of Sympathy because of what happened during the second world war. It was an Illuminati plan for the acquiring of riches via oil control as is presently unfolding.

In my opinion the USA will always back Israel, There are more Jews in the US than in Israel, Then again, humanity are only Pawns to The Illuminists.

All outside of Christ are the Pawns of the Luciferian controlled Illuminati is what I am saying.
That is if it is believed that this be the Agency promoting the Antichrist via the beast systems.

There are only Two camps in the Spiritual realm with a line of demarcation bearing upon humanity.

“Ye are either for Me or against Me” That has always been the rule, And it has not changed.
The Creation of Israel did not changed it. Nothing Will change it, because it is decreed By the Authority of Christ’s own word.

Soon it will be seen on which side of the line we all belong.

john b

In A Momentsaid

Hi John B~
Yeah, the Zionist thing is an for sure one hot button! The Bible speaks to ha eretz (the land) AND the spiritual Israel; the Temple is also viewed in a literal and spiritual sense. Followers Of the Way should be in diligent prayer, seeking spiritual discernment about where their focus is required in these days. If you would share what some of your resources are about Zionism that just might help others to follow why you mention this.
Blessings to you, John.

Joshsaid

I’m surprised you haven’t yet blogged about Share International’s new announcement that Maitreya gave his first US TV interview. Youtube is going wild about the news, and many seem to believe it’s Raj Patel. Get on top of your game man!

False prophets abound through history and this Maitreya fellow is no different. There are bigger signs and wonders that point to the end of days and Lynn has a better handle than most. He does a once a day post of some of the more relevant findings.

One reason why the comment section is so good. People like us can find out additional snippets and fill in the cracks between blog posts. Thanks for the head-up on Share International. They are a wacky bunch.

Jeff Dsaid

lamarzullisaid

Hi Josh – There’s lot’s to BLOG about and Maitreya is only one aspect of what I do. I am aware of the Raj Patel connection, but at this time I feel it’s a red herring, which is why I haven’t been Blogging about it. I’m waiting to see what Creme does and whether anything really manifests other than a bunch of hype….
L.A.

Davesaid

JoshB: How about the idea the USA supports about a split Jerusalem? I believe it is not whether we support Israel, it is whether we support a divided Jerusalem. God does not waiver. This is a clear political out, so to speak. Support on one hand, support others on the other. This will not work. Jerusalem belongs to God and Him alone. If the US does not support Israel 100%, His judgement will fall. It is obvious which way it will go. Look up, for your redemption draweth nigh…Just a thought..

Dave; Here are the words of Tony Blair spoken to Jews And Muslims in Jerusalem.

Religious faith will be of the same significance to the 21st century as political ideology was to the 20th century. In an era of globalisation, there is nothing more important than getting people of different faiths and cultures to understand each other better and live in peace and mutual respect, and to give faith itself its proper place in the future.
The Rt. Hon. Tony Blair, Prime Minister 1997-2007;
Middle East Peace Envoy 2007-Date.

It has not been realized yet But Jerusalem belongs to The Pope!

john B

DavidBMusicsaid

Please be careful with how we speak of Israel. Too many churches are trying to replace Israel and Israel’s promises from God, by re-labeling “Israel” as the church or the Vatican which is simply not true.

God allows the things currently going on in this world as it fulfills His Plan–not mankind’s. Israel is still His promised people and Israel is still the promised land that He will eventually rule through. The Remnant of Israel will be saved from destruction and will recognize Yeshua as Messiah.

Israel is not the bad guy, but those who call themselves Jews but are not, are indeed evil and are working malice under the devil himself. Evil people are evil people, and they come in all shapes, sizes and forms. Same goes for the righteous, God’s elect.

DavidBMusicsaid

In A Momentsaid

Hi David~
Would you be referring to my post where I mentioned “spiritual” Israel? Or the post by a fellow who is of the view that Israel and Zionism are an occult/Illuminati construct brought into play immediately following WWII? Feel free to discuss my post with me…I am a believer and open to instructive admonishment:^D I really don’t know if there’s even any doctrine about a spiritual Israel. Or where Scripture alludes to such; only heard about it and am simply going for dialogue and truth. Also don’t know if you noticed (in my reply to the post about Israel and Zionism) but I have a serious concern about people holding to the Illuminist Israel view! Nothing wrong with delving into the Word in order to expose a fallacy– or potential heresy. What say you?

Moment, here is some scriptures that may be useful in Identifying the Israel of God According to The Apostle Paul Gal4:21-31….Eph2:11-22.. The Sources of some of my “Zionist Illuminati theory” Is The Jesuit Malachi Martin, the Jew Henry Makow and an Ex family member a thirty second degree mason.

To everyone concerned, I am not of any particular theological tribe. My understanding of Prophecy is Gained by A thorough understanding of the gospels And Apostolic teaching to which The Prophetic word must conform.
“The shadow’s of the Old must be Subjected to the light New” That is Always The Apostolic method of Interpretation.
A lot of what is classified prophetical Truth by the messianic movement opposes the foundational Truths expressed by Christ and His Apostles. Some of these things I have already stated in past comments.

The Two scriptural References Above plainly show what constitutes the commonwealth of Israel and who the the people of God Are presently.

LA I enjoy your posts,and i find it Informative as most most who comment do, But that does not mean that I Have to Agree with All you say. If my comments are not in line with the common Trend of messianic prophecy, does that mean That what I have to say is of no avail.

I assure you and everyone Else that I choose my words in trembling and in fear before the lord.
For I am well aware of the consequences of the possibility of not only being lead astray, but worse is that of leading another astray.

I have found from past Experience that often time The Truth spoken can stir dislike even Hatred in those captivated by the theological Strongholds. I don’t apologise for Truth said, but I am sorry if what I have to say fall upon Death ears. it is a sign of the Time Not only in The world But In the Churches as well. there is nothing i can do about that.

yours in Christ Jesus.

lamarzullisaid

John B. – You are more than welcome here my friend. We’re not going to agree on everything and that’s fine, but we can agree that He is our hope, and by his blood we are redeemed! Everything else is gravy!