Mass Gaining Stack ?

so im just now coming off of an 8 week run of Anabeta Elite, Erase Pro, and Intimidate...currently in a deload week followed on by 8 weeks of nothing but protein so counter balance the 8 week run.

Honestly, this stack hardly did anything for me...I gained 5 lbs, added an inch or two to my arms, 3 inches to my chest (still tiny), and overall just really got a toned body....and for most of us, thats not what were looking for!

I was eating like a caveman which is what probably gave me those 5lbs, and i was taking protein, a weight gainer, and casein and still nothing...and i feel like my pre workout (NO RED Hemo Surge) is what gave me the swelled up look as well...

Im still a bitch when it comes to needles so injectable steroids are a HELL NO!! BUT>> im looking for a new stack that has been tried and tested and add MASS AND VOLUME!!!

For those that have not read some of my other posts, heres a summary of my workout career...

Been lifting about 6 years give or take...I have lifted in powerlifting and olympic lifting comps...i favor correct form over weight...i currently weigh 195lbs...have done HST programs, HIT programs, GVT programs, DTP once...the supplements i have taken are listed but not limited too...

so im just now coming off of an 8 week run of Anabeta Elite, Erase Pro, and Intimidate...currently in a deload week followed on by 8 weeks of nothing but protein so counter balance the 8 week run.

Honestly, this stack hardly did anything for me...I gained 5 lbs, added an inch or two to my arms, 3 inches to my chest (still tiny), and overall just really got a toned body....and for most of us, thats not what were looking for!

You gained 5 lbs lean mass in 2 months without roids and you think it hardly did anything? Those results sound good to me. So what results are you looking for?

Honestly, the stack its self was decent, i was expecting a little more though ( dont we all )..a week or two in the cycle i got sick and it knocked me on my ass for a while where i couldnt sleep, eat, nothing! i lost about 10 lbs and a lot of strength and size....with the cycle over, i only added that weight and those critical inches to what i had after being sick...not where i was before...in all reality, i added 1 1/8 inch to my arms and 1 inch to my chest....i feel like those gains were getting me back to baseline instead of enhancing me and boosting me past what i had before!!

Given, that sickness killed the stack almost all together but i was still looking for more...I eat like there is no tomorrow so that is without doubt the contributing factor to those 5 lbs gaines...

Im looking for that stack "on steroids" without the injection, and gains that last...
Now before yall start to crucify me for speaking blasphemy of some magical supplement, i know there is nothing out there besides injects that give those kind of results, but im looking for as close as i can get to those goals without the needle because i am a bitch when it comes to needles...

The best gains I've gotten in recent years came this Spring with og Anabeta, biggest gains I've gotten since the old "oops, now what did we put in there?" Jungle Warfare. Lots of carbs with it and it had a very noticeable effect....mostly in size/fullness. I'd have to go back to my log but ~ a solid 3/4-1 pound per week with very little fat increase while on one of Waterbury's ABH programs.

The best gains I've gotten in recent years came this Spring with og Anabeta, biggest gains I've gotten since the old "oops, now what did we put in there?" Jungle Warfare. Lots of carbs with it and it had a very noticeable effect....mostly in size/fullness. I'd have to go back to my log but ~ a solid 3/4-1 pound per week with very little fat increase while on one of Waterbury's ABH programs.

I have some anabeta og coming.. you have me with a stiffy in my pants right now!

Can't wait to try it.. will be stacking it with Intimdate & Testabolan V.2! Should be a kickass stack!

LOL well just don't tell my wife! hahaha. I've been taking supplements for 20 years and this is one of the more impressive products for me. Made me thirsty like a mofo though. Some hunger increase as well but the damn thirst.............

Dude your stats were awesome! 1-2 inches on your arms?? WTF? Have you triend PH19? I wrote a review on a stack I did with PH19 under the reviews sections. Check it out. Took me from 240 ish to around 252lbs. I'd def recommend it when bulking!

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Dude your stats were awesome! 1-2 inches on your arms?? WTF? Have you triend PH19? I wrote a review on a stack I did with PH19 under the reviews sections. Check it out. Took me from 240 ish to around 252lbs. I'd def recommend it when bulking!

Dude your stats were awesome! 1-2 inches on your arms?? WTF? Have you triend PH19? I wrote a review on a stack I did with PH19 under the reviews sections. Check it out. Took me from 240 ish to around 252lbs. I'd def recommend it when bulking!

PH19? honestly, never heard of it! I don't look to far into programs..I tend to stick with old school methods and combinations of things that has worked in the past! can you provide a link to this log/thread? I would love to dive into this program and get started on it after this De load if I like it!

to everyone else...I appreciate all the reviews and comments! they do help, as I said in one of my earlier posts, the stack hardly got me past where I already was pre sickness, that's why I was so down on it....If I didn't get railed by that sickness I would imagine it would have been an incredible stack but I'll never know...I don't mean to sound down on it so I can get the "no way that's awesome " responses....I'm just reporting on an earlier thread!

PH19? honestly, never heard of it! I don't look to far into programs..I tend to stick with old school methods and combinations of things that has worked in the past! can you provide a link to this log/thread? I would love to dive into this program and get started on it after this De load if I like it!

to everyone else...I appreciate all the reviews and comments! they do help, as I said in one of my earlier posts, the stack hardly got me past where I already was pre sickness, that's why I was so down on it....If I didn't get railed by that sickness I would imagine it would have been an incredible stack but I'll never know...I don't mean to sound down on it so I can get the "no way that's awesome " responses....I'm just reporting on an earlier thread!

keep em coming and as always criticism is always appreciated

Ph19 isnt a program. Its a pro hormone. By lgsciences. Its a bulking ph