Contributors program/August 20, 2010

From OLPC

[ AGENDA ]
* XO-1.5 early production machines now available/shipping:
http://blog.laptop.org/2010/02/25/xo-1-5-early-production-laptops-free-to-contributors-worldwide/
* New projects & libraries -- teaching them Community Outreach:
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/XO_Laptop_Lending_Libraries
* Which projects might you enjoy Mentoring below?!
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects
http://rt.laptop.org/Search/Results.html?Query=Queue=%27contributors%27
* Fast Review of the 8 latest (greatest!) HW/Project Proposals -- please
join us advocating for, and/or reviewing shortcomings of these proposals:
#1 Improving School Attendance Rate and Performance - Kenya and Uganda
#2 University Class & Repair Center - Rochester Institute of Technology, New York
#3 Wings Over Haiti - Port Jefferson Station, New York
#4 Open 1-to-1 + XO1.5 + Sugar - Needham/Arlington, Massachusetts & Maine
#5 Support Volunteer & School Server Development - Buenos Aires, Argentina
#6 XO 1.5 Testing & Outreach in Portugal - Aveiro, Portugal
#7 OLPC Developer Lab and Repair Center - Bangalore, India
#8 Support Volunteer @ Rural School: XO Integration+Outreach - La Romana, Dominican Republic
<CanoeBerry> FYI meeting will be starting very soon after 2pm today, in about 5-10min...plz review the 8 project/proposals in advance:
<CanoeBerry> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2010-August/011544.html
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<sgtpepper> I see we have some cool projects today (excluding mine.. lol)
<CanoeBerry> Feel free to share yr thoughts here, on which projects we should support, even before we get started!
<sgtpepper> I liked the one from portugal... with only one but
<sgtpepper> we should not be identified with political parties or organizations
<sgtpepper> It could backfire
<CanoeBerry> What's Tiago's blog in Portugal again? He wrote some solid early reviews of the XO-1.5 late 2009.
<GrannieB> Some of these are asking for waaaaay tooooo many machines!
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<sgtpepper> The project from Kenya and Uganda... is more like a donation, or a g1g1
<CanoeBerry> GrannieB: let's see if they have their reasons for asking for sizable numbers of machines.
<digitalmind1> Ya I guess GrannieB is talking about us
<sgtpepper> its good, it could be attainable.. but maybe we can help with another model.. like Sugar on fedora or stuff like that
<sgtpepper> digitalmind1: Which is yours?
<digitalmind1> OLPC Developer Lab and Repair Center - Bangalore, India
<CanoeBerry> ~2 min warning.. please continue previewing all proposals here, before we start:
<CanoeBerry> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/iaep/2010-August/011544.html
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<sgtpepper> digitalmind1: Its actually quite good.. but maybe too many computers
<CanoeBerry> Reminder: we will give each proposal about 5-10min MAXIMUM, before voting very quickly, and moving on to the next.
<digitalmind1> yes then India is a big nation
<GrannieB> diditalmind1 yours seems reasonable except we don't have many broken X)-1.5s yet
<sgtpepper> I can break some
<sgtpepper> lol
<digitalmind1> what about XO 1.0s
<digitalmind1> ha ha
<sgtpepper> I've 3 year old nephews who'll handle that
<GrannieB> jajajaja
<GrannieB> how far is Bangalore from Gugarat? excuse the spelling!
<digitalmind1> very far ..
<GrannieB> too bad
<digitalmind1> how is that related?
<GrannieB> there is a 100+ private foundation's deployment there. They may have some broken ones and need some repairs
<digitalmind1> okie i got that
<digitalmind1> we will connect to them if such case exists
<GrannieB> great!
<sgtpepper> switching to wireless.. brb
<digitalmind1> in a big region like india and neighbouring countries, there is no repair centre
<CanoeBerry> At last.. let's begin!
<christophd> ok
<digitalmind1> and often this has been raised as a concern how can the laptops be repaired in such case
[ PROJECT #1 - Improving School Attendance Rate and Performance - Kenya and Uganda ]
<CanoeBerry> Please all (yes, everyone here please help!) critique/mentor/vote for Project #1 of 8 here:
<CanoeBerry> 1. Improving School Attendance Rate and Performance - Kenya and Uganda
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=66013
<CanoeBerry> http://e4nfoundation.blogspot.com
<CanoeBerry> [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF
<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]
<CanoeBerry> Requests 18 XO-1s over undetermined months
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives:
<CanoeBerry> Concrete proposals with defined, measurable outcomes are much more
<CanoeBerry> likely to
<CanoeBerry> result in a laptop than it would be cool to play with these and demo
<CanoeBerry> them.
<CanoeBerry> 1. Equip teachers and pupils with basic computer skills using the XO
<CanoeBerry> laptop.
<CanoeBerry> 2. Improve understanding and performance of science subjects.
<CanoeBerry> 3. Actively engaging children in their learning process.
<CanoeBerry> 4. Increase school attendance rate in rural schools.
<CanoeBerry> 5. Introducing another medium of learning and communication using XO
<CanoeBerry> laptop.
<christophd> seems a little to unspecific to me
<CanoeBerry> Applicant has done interesting work to date, and (refreshingly!) keeps his blog up to date:
<CanoeBerry> http://e4nfoundation.blogspot.com
<christophd> also not sure how they'll get teachers to participate in 30 (!) days of training
<CanoeBerry> Not sure where to take this next though...
<GrannieB> Too hazy. They should ask for one or 2 and ddevelop the curriculum for a larger deployment
<digitalmind1> it can be divided over small sessions
<digitalmind1> often concise and concentrated sessions bring much value than long ones
<GrannieB> re teachers participation... pay them, and feed them!
<CanoeBerry> Can we leave him with a suggestion and/or partial allocation? We have plenty of returned/used XO-1s to provide at the moment.
<RITSteve> Weekend or two bbot camps with weekly sessions?
<christophd> GrannieB: paying and feeding: that would be a first;)
<RITSteve> boot
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<digitalmind1> how many other members are part of this project?
<GrannieB> we used to pay... a pittance, feed cookies and soda... maybe pizza. Treat them like professionals
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<CanoeBerry> Let's conclude Project #1 here.
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<GrannieB> how about 2 or 3
<CanoeBerry> Can we get a suggestion around this partial allocation?
<christophd> #1: is a defer for now, or smaller number of XOs
<christophd> GrannieB: you should tell that to teacher trainers in Peru or Uruguay;9
<GrannieB> I try!
<CanoeBerry> GrannieB: can you provide 1 specific teacher-training or content-development goal for Kenya here?
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<CanoeBerry> science lessons..
<digitalmind1> I will say build a curriculum or atleast plan on what special content you intend to cover
<GrannieB> Hey Christoph... love your photos. Lima has really changed since I was there about 20 years ago
<digitalmind1> which will differentiate the prior learning that teachers have
<sgtpepper> Do you already have content that can be shared with the community?
<CanoeBerry> Plz, any tips for science lessons in Kenya/Uganda?
<christophd> GrannieB: thanks, Lima has even changed a lot since I was there last in 2005!
<GrannieB> There is great content on Canal Ceibal but it is all in Spanish
<CanoeBerry> Motion to defer?
<GrannieB> +1
<digitalmind1> creating short stories around science concepts .. so that concepts can be grasped easily
<GrannieB> The XO in the classroom has some good lesson plans
<christophd> +1
<CanoeBerry> Plz vote on deferring vs. partial allocation for Kenya/Uganda's science lessons.
<GrannieB> Food Force is good
<CanoeBerry> Calling once..
<CanoeBerry> Calling twice..
<Ian_Daniher> there are some pretty good science flash applets
<sgtpepper> +1... Maybe the content should be there first... and it can be tested in sugar emulator
<digitalmind1> partial
<Ian_Daniher> +1
<sgtpepper> partial
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<GrannieB> +1 to defer
<christophd> GrannieB: agreed. sdenka invited me to visit her but unfortunately I dont have enough time:(
<CanoeBerry> We have a pretty split vote.
<CanoeBerry> [DEFERRED] TOWARDS PARTIAL ALLOCATION if science lessons (and similar) demonstrated.
<CanoeBerry> Onto Proejct #2.
<GrannieB> ok... make it 3 to start and work up some lessons. I can mentor if you like
[ PROJECT #2 - University Class & Repair Center - Rochester Institute of Technology, New York ]
<christophd> project #2: generally thumbs up but 25 XOs seems a lot to start. dunno.
<CanoeBerry> Please all critique/mentor/vote for Project #2:
<CanoeBerry> University Class & Repair Center - Rochester Institute of Technology,
<CanoeBerry> New York
<CanoeBerry> http://foss.rit.edu/blog
<CanoeBerry> https://fedorahosted.org/OpenVideoChat/
<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Math4Team/RIT
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=66041
<CanoeBerry> [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF
<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]
<CanoeBerry> Requests 25 XO-1.5s incl 10 additional (possibly carcasses) for
<CanoeBerry> repair center.
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives:
<CanoeBerry> On-going Course participation in Sugar Labs Math4 project via classes
<CanoeBerry> at RIT, Co-Op and Summer Research Programs
<CanoeBerry> Addtionally hoping to become a repair center.
<christophd> but then again RIT has some amazing stuff
<CanoeBerry> RIT folks: plz introduce your plan now, if you can?
<sgtpepper> Its quite a lot of HW....
<CanoeBerry> RITSteve: ^^^
<GrannieB> They should hit up their school for funding. They have lots of money... the tuition is huge
<RITSteve> Some BG on the size of the HW request...
<digitalmind1> i was going to say the same
<GrannieB> BG?
<CanoeBerry> GrannieB: that doesn't solve XO-1.5 capacity-building -- XO-1.5s are not for sale in these quantities
<RITSteve> Background
<Ian_Daniher> if RIT is interested in repair work, I'd be glad to provide them with XO1.0s to work with.
<GrannieB> Right ... so buy 100 they can afford it
<CanoeBerry> I doubt it.
<RITSteve> Still have about 15 1.0s
<Ian_Daniher> and their software work seems to be emulator-friendly
<RITSteve> We plan to flip them to repair center
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<RITSteve> Work on open video chat and game engines have pushed os version requirements and hardware capacity
<CanoeBerry> RITSteve: where is the web page for the class starting in 2+ weeks?
<christophd> RITSteve: 25 + 10 still seems like a lot IMHO
<RITSteve> Open video chat cant run on 1.0 machines due to the processor and camera frame rates. Not enough speed to be viable for sign language
<christophd> RITSteve: is 25 the number of students in the class?
<christophd> RITSteve: or why specifically 25?
<RITSteve> Course began a donation from Fedora of 25 1.0 to support MATH4 sugar labs efforts
<RITSteve> Course size is 25
<Ian_Daniher> Does MATH4 require 1.5s?
<RITSteve> Course has been using one xo per student since inception and original hardware donation from Fedora
<GrannieB> can't the students share?
<CanoeBerry> I think we and OLPC should support this class, but would like to see the class web page.
<Ian_Daniher> or use emulators / SoaS in a lab setting?
<RITSteve> Emulation is an issues, again for two reasons...
<RITSteve> 1. We push the hardware and the release versions of the OS, need to be able to use actual hardware
<christophd> yeah, for video chat emulation and SOAS arent a good option
<GrannieB> 25 would set a precident that might cause problems going forward
<CanoeBerry> GrannieB: let's deal with specifics, not precedents -- if the talent is here, we should support them.
<christophd> my vote: +1
<RITSteve> Labs cant be used due to (somewhat ridiculous) security policies re running other OS on machines either on the machines hardware or via a USB
<Ian_Daniher> ah, I thought there was a difference between your class and your development wrok
<digitalmind1> +1
<CanoeBerry> Let's draw this to a prelim conclusion.
<CanoeBerry> +1
<christophd> RIT has done amazing work and deserves any support we can give them (IMHO)
<digitalmind1> i agree
<Ian_Daniher> +1
<CanoeBerry> Please all vote!
<sgtpepper> +1
<RITSteve> Precedent was already set by Fedora. CLass has a history of issuing XO per student for the course and allowing them to keep them if they remain active contributors so we are below the original number
<GrannieB> +1 for 10 or 13. 25 is huge
<CanoeBerry> Other votes?
<CanoeBerry> Calling once..
<Ian_Daniher> 25 yes, 35 definitely not, but would feel a lot more comfortable with 15 than 25.
<CanoeBerry> Calling twice..
<CanoeBerry> Calling thrice..
<sgtpepper> +1 on Ian_Daniher
<RITSteve> 25 will support course and 1.0 repair center
<RITSteve> 10 for 1.5 repair center can wait til there's need
<CanoeBerry> TENTATIVE APPROVAL for 25 XO-1.5s for class, but 10 carcasses for repair center -- if class web page/ongoing blog is made public for all worldwide to learn from!
[ PROJECT #3 - Wings Over Haiti - Port Jefferson Station, New York ]
<CanoeBerry> Thanks. onto Project #3
<CanoeBerry> Plz all critique/mentor/vote for:
<CanoeBerry> Wings Over Haiti - Port Jefferson Station, New York
<CanoeBerry> http://www.WingsOverHaiti.org
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=66053
<CanoeBerry> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&viewas=0&ref=mf&gid=267976059380
<CanoeBerry> [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF
<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]
<CanoeBerry> Requests 6 XOs over 12 months
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives:
<CanoeBerry> Open a K-8 School in Croix-des-Bouquets, Haiti, in collaboration with
<CanoeBerry> students and teachers at JFK Middle School in Port Jefferson Station,
<CanoeBerry> NY, to meet the following goals:
<CanoeBerry> 1. Teach children in French and English, maintaining Creole as a
<CanoeBerry> language of honor with Haiti’s people.
<CanoeBerry> 2. Foster the development of critical thinking skills via an emphasis on
<CanoeBerry> problem based learning (PBL) – minimizing rote memorization.
<CanoeBerry> 3. Instill a sense of responsibility for humankind in student body
<CanoeBerry> through cultural exchange and local service to the community.
<christophd> cant decide on that project
<CanoeBerry> Needs more details.
<christophd> number seems small enough
<christophd> yeah
<christophd> I guess that's it
<GrannieB> PBL is also known as Project Based Learning
<CanoeBerry> They should join our NYC meeting tomorrow in Manhattan!
<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_NYC
<CanoeBerry> Perhaps 2 XOs as starters then?
<CanoeBerry> The proposal is so long, for beginners, it's a bit concerning :)
<christophd> CanoeBerry: 3 maybe
<christophd> true that
<christophd> lots of info about themselves rather than the project
<CanoeBerry> Conclusions?
<Ian_Daniher> +1 christophd
<CanoeBerry> Plz all vote!
<Ian_Daniher> 3
<GrannieB> they need to get to know the machines and develop thier curriculum This takes time. 3 would be good. Suggest more later
<RITSteve> canoeberry: old curriculum www page http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/RIT/Honors_Seminar, to be revised in the next 10 days. Course projects and students generate their own pages and are on fedora hosted. Samples were included in the application sent
<CanoeBerry> Motion for 3 XO-1s?
<digitalmind1> +1
<Ian_Daniher> do they need XO 1s or 1.5s?
<Ian_Daniher> if it's 1s, +1 for 6.
<GrannieB> But they are opening a new school in Haiti?
<Ian_Daniher> if it's 1.5s, +1 for 3.
<GrannieB> I'm with Ian +1
<christophd> +1
<CanoeBerry> Ian_Daniher: true, we can be generous with redonated XO-1s if good work with be done.
<CanoeBerry> Conclusion?
<christophd> 3 XO-1.5s or 6 XO-1s?
<sgtpepper> +1 with mentoring....
<CanoeBerry> +1 on either, letting them decide
<GrannieB> sounds like a plan... +1
<Ian_Daniher> +1
<CanoeBerry> Calling once..
<CanoeBerry> Calling twice..
<CanoeBerry> Calling thrice..
<CanoeBerry> APPROVED, details to be finalized offline -- mentors most welcome!
[ PROJECT #4 - Open 1-to-1 + XO1.5 + Sugar - Needham/Arlington, Massachusetts & Maine ]
<CanoeBerry> Onto Project #4
<christophd> project #4: +1
<Ian_Daniher> Open1to1
<CanoeBerry> Plz all critique/mentor/vote for:
<CanoeBerry> Open 1-to-1 + XO1.5 + Sugar - Needham/Arlington, Massachusetts & Maine
<CanoeBerry> http://itd-usr.blogspot.com
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=66253
<CanoeBerry> [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF
<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]
<CanoeBerry> Requests 3 XO-1.5s over 6 months
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives:
<CanoeBerry> Explore running Open1to1 (from Maine Open Netbook Initiative) on XO-1.5
<CanoeBerry> hardware, develop software solutions to encountered problems, demo
<CanoeBerry> machines to FOSS/ED crowd.
<CanoeBerry> Approved.
<Ian_Daniher> is an educational remix of ubuntu netbook edition, successfully used in at least a dozen schools in northern new
england, with at leat 5k machines in the field
<GrannieB> +1 for 3 It is a mini Roadshow. We can use more of those
<CanoeBerry> +1
<Ian_Daniher> netbooks break easily, XOs don't. :)
<CanoeBerry> Sorry HS / clickey keyboards are not available.
<CanoeBerry> Plz all vote.
<Ian_Daniher> np. I can say they exist, and that'll be good enough.
<CanoeBerry> Objections?
<christophd> no objections, +1
<sgtpepper> +1
<CanoeBerry> Ian_Daniher: please don't get too drunk as the school term begins, offering us details and Olin participation on-blog, ok?
<Ian_Daniher> will do.
<CanoeBerry> ALai should visit OLPC soon, on the side..
<Ian_Daniher> this is *not* an Olin project
<Ian_Daniher> this is an Open1to1 project
<Ian_Daniher> I'm the only person younger than 25 involved :)
<CanoeBerry> Will these XO-1.5s never visit Olin's campus?
<Ian_Daniher> my XO1.5 will be on campus.
<CanoeBerry> OK
<Ian_Daniher> the other two may not
<CanoeBerry> Calling once..
<CanoeBerry> More votes anybody?
<CanoeBerry> Calling twice..
<CanoeBerry> Calling thrice..
<GrannieB> I already voted +1
<CanoeBerry> APPROVED, all plz help keeping yr eyes on http://itd-usr.blogspot.com
[ PROJECT #5 - Support Volunteer & School Server Development - Buenos Aires, Argentina ]
<CanoeBerry> onto Project #5
<CanoeBerry> Plz all critique/mentor/vote for:
<CanoeBerry> Support Volunteer & School Server Development - Buenos Aires, Argentina
<CanoeBerry> http://olpc.nicolascorrarello.com
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=66320
<CanoeBerry> [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF
<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]
<CanoeBerry> Requests 1 XO-1.5 (and Active Antenna if avail?) over 24 months
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives:
<CanoeBerry> * Deliver consistent support for the OLPC platform.
<CanoeBerry> Work on the School server distrubution to stabilize the platform,
<CanoeBerry> and add
<CanoeBerry> resources for teachers and students such as:
<CanoeBerry> * "Proyecto ALBA" or schooltool , which is a platform for School
<CanoeBerry> Administration (Managing students, grades, courses, grade reports,
<CanoeBerry> subjects,
<CanoeBerry> teachers, etc. ...)
<CanoeBerry> * Review and Improve 3G modem support
<CanoeBerry> * Find and adapt a tool to manage centrally a big XS deployement (and
<CanoeBerry> maybe
<CanoeBerry> even XO's)
<CanoeBerry> +1
<christophd> #5: gets a +1 from me
<Ian_Daniher> +1 to #5
<Ian_Daniher> school server needs work
<CanoeBerry> sgtpepper: care to comment on yr latest work/direction?
<GrannieB> +1 from me too. Will just one be enough to do the job?
<sgtpepper> Well.. Right now, we're trying to find a central mgmt software to manage a huge cloud of XS's
<CanoeBerry> Votes/suggestions from all please!
<christophd> +1
<digitalmind1> +1
<sgtpepper> I'm trying also to put up to speed with the XS development, to see if I can help
<ghost> +!
<CanoeBerry> sgtpepper: let us know on support-gang@laptop.org and elsewhere how you make out
<CanoeBerry> Calling once..
<CanoeBerry> Calling twice..
<CanoeBerry> Calling thrice..
<CanoeBerry> APPROVED
[ PROJECT #6 - XO 1.5 Testing & Outreach in Portugal - Aveiro, Portugal ]
<CanoeBerry> Onto Project #6
<CanoeBerry> Plz all critique/mentor/vote for:
<CanoeBerry> XO 1.5 Testing & Outreach in Portugal - Aveiro, Portugal
<CanoeBerry> http://www.tmarques.com
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=66329
<CanoeBerry> [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF
<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]
<CanoeBerry> Requests 2 XO-1.5s and over 12 months
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives:
<CanoeBerry> Showing among political parties that have strongly opposed the
<CanoeBerry> distribution of the Classmate PC from Intel, sold as the "Magalhães"
<CanoeBerry> laptop (please see http://iniciativa-magalhaes.com/). The Classmate was
<CanoeBerry> attributed to a national computer builder without a public contest and
<CanoeBerry> has gathered much criticism from the media and the political opposition.
<CanoeBerry> The XO 1.5 would be a viable alternative and a cheaper one. No
<CanoeBerry> alternatives have been show up till now and 500k laptops have been
<CanoeBerry> deployed. I'm unsure of the success of this due to the current economical
<CanoeBerry> climate in the country, but if there's will to continue with the
<CanoeBerry> initiative,
<CanoeBerry> the XO 1.5 would be very well positioned to replace the Classmate. I have
<CanoeBerry> some extra XO-1s but they are too slow to provide an impact given the
<CanoeBerry> classmate's superior performance compared to the old unit.
<CanoeBerry> +1
<christophd> that's an odd one IMHO. not sure it's worthwhile giving them XOs
<GrannieB> Interesting. He wants to "fight city hall"???
<Ian_Daniher> 2?
<GrannieB> a mini Roadshow
<Ian_Daniher> OLPC needs more rabblerouser advocates
<sgtpepper> as I already said.. Its dangerous..
<digitalmind1> for publicity, the concerned parties can always checkout wiki for details on features
<sgtpepper> it could backfire
<sgtpepper> but I agree with Ian_Daniher
<christophd> sgtpepper: my thoughts exactly
<GrannieB> Is there a viable FOSS community in Portugal?
<christophd> GrannieB: no idea, I guess so
<Ian_Daniher> I say +1 to 1 XO1.5
<digitalmind1> +1 for 1 XO 1.0/1.5
<christophd> "I would need help from OLPC representatives on this, by
<christophd> providing information and a direct contact with the people involved with the
<christophd> current Portuguese project of laptops for children"
<christophd> this is odd
<CanoeBerry> The context here is that applicant just shipped OLPC his XO-1.5 for valuable diagnostic/repair insight, but yet you are all correct, that a great HW tinkerer here should not necessarily get involved with high-level advocacy if he does not have experience!
<christophd> I vote -1
<christophd> well said!
<CanoeBerry> So we are shipping him an XO-1.5 regardless, and I suggested 2 if he will build community.
<CanoeBerry> But lobbying might not be appropriate, as it can indeed backfire at times.
<digitalmind1> -1 I guess then
<Ian_Daniher> with that in mind, -1
<GrannieB> we need to stay apolitical
<GrannieB> -1
<Ian_Daniher> my concern is that if he already has one, he doesn't need another
<Ian_Daniher> also, having a hardcore HW dev do politics scares me
<Ian_Daniher> being a hardcore HW dev myself :)
<GrannieB> he wants to do "shoe and tell"
<digitalmind1> yes .. he should work on building community and consensus for it .. it will make process simpler
<GrannieB> opps show and tell
<CanoeBerry> Calling once..
<CanoeBerry> Calling twice..
<CanoeBerry> Calling thrice..
<GrannieB> link up with the FOSS community there ... if there is one
<CanoeBerry> APPROVED for 1 alone (his replacement XO-1.5) until advocacy goals clarifying, given its serious risks.
[ PROJECT #7 - OLPC Developer Lab and Repair Center - Bangalore, India ]
<CanoeBerry> onto Project #7
<CanoeBerry> Plz all critique/mentor/vote for:
<CanoeBerry> OLPC Developer Lab and Repair Center - Bangalore, India
<CanoeBerry> http://olpcsouthasia.org
<CanoeBerry> http://youthforseva.org/our-focus-areas/education/computers-for-schools/
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=66334
<CanoeBerry> [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF
<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]
<CanoeBerry> Requests 10 XO-1.5s and 10 salvaged/damaged XOs over 12 months
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives:
<CanoeBerry> · To create a dedicated developer and volunteer community
<CanoeBerry> · To establish a XO lending library and repair center in Bangalore
<CanoeBerry> to help community in adopting XO as a learning platform
<CanoeBerry> · To train teachers in the Sugar Learning environment to enable them
<CanoeBerry> to make effective use of it in their classrooms
<CanoeBerry> · To prepare and implement a new curriculum for the students in
<CanoeBerry> coordination with teachers(For example: Development of various
<CanoeBerry> mathematical
<CanoeBerry> models for understanding effectiveness of current curriculum and
<CanoeBerry> what steps
<CanoeBerry> can be taken to enhance them and decipher the insights from such
<CanoeBerry> implementation)
<CanoeBerry> · To spread awareness among the youth of colleges and schools
<CanoeBerry> · To raise funds for atleast 1 large scale deployment in 6 months
<christophd> CanoeBerry: i guess you have more insight into that one?
<CanoeBerry> digitalmind: can you introduce yr team & effort?
<digitalmind1> ya sure
<CanoeBerry> quick!
<CanoeBerry> thanks!
<digitalmind1> we are building a team of volunteers .. currently around 6 and it will rise to a big number with the kind of interest we are seeing from many students
<CanoeBerry> All 6 in Bangalore area?
<digitalmind1> we plan to roll out internships for them so that they can work on real tiem environment and some development activities
<ghost> yes that is right
<digitalmind1> yes .. but we are also approaching other regions
<GrannieB> are you at a university or school?
<digitalmind1> so that students can join in here from those places
<CanoeBerry> ghost: are you with the team? don't hesitate to tell us more if so.
<ghost> yes i am part of the team
<digitalmind1> we wil host it in school
<ghost> i am currently working with emc and volunteering with youth for seva
<CanoeBerry> is your group establishing monthly meetings or similar?
<CanoeBerry> i know you've met at least once already..
<digitalmind1> this is first step to make a big thrust for creative learning .. and will expand at rapid rate
<ghost> i am working with this government school for past 6 months
<ghost> we teach every saturday
<CanoeBerry> you might learn a lot from christophd here in-channel who founded the OLPC Austria community
<digitalmind1> that good to know ..
<ghost> we want to get full time volunteers as well as train the teachers ion this platform
<digitalmind1> we will reach out for expanding OLPC South Asia community
<ghost> so this can be part of their full time curriculam
<christophd> sounds good
<christophd> any specific deliverables over the next 6 months?
<CanoeBerry> Any blog schedule for http://olpcsouthasia.org ?
<GrannieB> do you already have any XOs?
<CanoeBerry> Can we expect weekly bite-size summaries?
<digitalmind1> yes for sure
<ghost> yes we intend to have our 1st large scale deployment in 6 months
<digitalmind1> it will be posted on olpcsouthasia.org
<christophd> ghost: that is very ambitious;)
<christophd> but good
<ghost> i have a plan
<ghost> :)
<digitalmind1> we are alredy working hard at generating funds
<digitalmind1> and results have been encouraging
<CanoeBerry> i vote +1 but would like to see a blogging pattern first
<ghost> emc has already supported a deployment in australia
<GrannieB> do you have XOs? Have you tried them?
<christophd> apart from the deployment? content, software, etc-?
<digitalmind1> and cahnges will definitely be visible after we have the lab set and working
<ghost> i am in talks with the csr for the large scale deployment in bangalore
<CanoeBerry> does this group have more than its original 2 XO-1.5s to date?
<digitalmind1> no
<GrannieB> What have you done with your 2 XO-1.5s do far?
<CanoeBerry> *so far
<digitalmind1> it is being used for sharing on the same school .. and one of it is being used for speech recognition development purposes
<GrannieB> yep I really cant type
<digitalmind1> it is also used for showing to corporates to generate funds so that we can support first deployment
<christophd> sorry, I have to go, lunch is being served
<CanoeBerry> is a repair center lead (point person) chosen/ready to go, and if so who is that?
<christophd> project #6: +1
<christophd> #7 I meant
<christophd> sorry
<CanoeBerry> christophd: thanks so much & talk soon
<digitalmind1> Anuroop Talluri is not available
<christophd> #8 sounds a little unspecific to me atm
<CanoeBerry> Let's conclude as it's 3pm
<digitalmind1> but he will lead the repair centre
<CanoeBerry> great
<sgtpepper> CanoeBerry: I did'nt ask you... how much is the overnight + saturday shipment?
<digitalmind1> he is working for tata elxsi
<digitalmind1> which already handles a big semiconductor group
<CanoeBerry> Motion for tentative approval if the weekly blogging is agreed to and appears.
<CanoeBerry> +1 (my vote)
<christophd> +1
<digitalmind1> confirmed from me on blogging
<CanoeBerry> sgtpepper: overnight shipping for saturday delivery costs astronomically too much
<CanoeBerry> in the US
<digitalmind1> and added pictures and content that we create
<GrannieB> +1
<digitalmind1> we will start with translation first
<digitalmind1> so results will be immediately visible
<GrannieB> what language?
<ghost> kannada, telagu and tamil
<ghost> all indian local languages
<GrannieB> no gugarati?
<digitalmind1> we are concentrating on indian region
<ghost> we do not have too many gujurati's down south
<digitalmind1> not as of now until we find volunteers from gujarati
<digitalmind1> or one who speaks that
<digitalmind1> :)
<CanoeBerry> Calling once..
<GrannieB> maybe Anil who I mentioned earlier can find some for you
<CanoeBerry> Calling twice..
<digitalmind1> grannieB seems to be really inspired by gujarat ;)
<CanoeBerry> Calling thrice..
<CanoeBerry> APPROVED..pending a few final details, thanks.
<CanoeBerry> Lastly Project #8
<GrannieB> I'm their mentor so I am predgudiced
<digitalmind1> thanks everyone
[ PROJECT #8 - Support Volunteer @ Rural School: XO Integration+Outreach - La Romana, Dominican Republic ]
<CanoeBerry> Plz all critique/mentor/vote for:
<digitalmind1> i got that !
<CanoeBerry> Support Volunteer @ Rural School: XO Integration+Outreach - La
<CanoeBerry> Romana, Dominican Republic
<CanoeBerry> https://sites.google.com/site/laromanaxo/
<CanoeBerry> http://rt.laptop.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=66344
<CanoeBerry> [SPECIFIC SITE NEEDS TO BE POSTED OFF
<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Projects ]
<CanoeBerry> Requests 2 XO-1.5s and 3 months
<CanoeBerry> Project Objectives:
<CanoeBerry> Our project will serve to integrate the use of computers in the learning
<CanoeBerry> and discovery process of young children in rural and depressed areas of
<CanoeBerry> La Romana, Dominican Republic.
<sgtpepper> I would definitely mentor that
<CanoeBerry> iisidor: care to introduce your work? if you're still online!
<iisidor> 'm here, hello
<CanoeBerry> hi!
<CanoeBerry> Plz say a few words on where you're heading in the coming month.
<CanoeBerry> And if further -- and more about your blogging/outreach approach.
<CanoeBerry> +1 but needing to hear more :)
<iisidor> I am working with a school in La Romana to introduce the use of computers in the learning process of children
<CanoeBerry> PS sorry again our OLPC colleague honeymoon'ing in the DR cannot help you next month!
<digitalmind1> will 3 months time be enough?
<iisidor> we plan to grow to two schools in the next 6 months if we get all the funding
<iisidor> 3 months might work for the first school
<iisidor> like a roadshow to engage teachers and parents
<CanoeBerry> iisidor: do you know someone who might be your photographer/blogger?
<iisidor> ill be doing most of that work but there are other students that will help
<CanoeBerry> OK, know any experienced/techie teacher friends in the DR who might help?
<iisidor> these schools have a group of volunteers from a private school that go there to help them in math, sciences, etc
<CanoeBerry> (constructionist or otherwise..)
<iisidor> I have a bunch of students, teachers and teachies to help on the work
<CanoeBerry> All plz vote, thanks!
<sgtpepper> +1 ... and I can Mentor it...
<CanoeBerry> +1 on this very young project, volunteer iisidor has been helpful online over the past month, given his strong tech support background.
<GrannieB> +1 for longer time!
<CanoeBerry> sgtpepper: perfect
<CanoeBerry> +1 to GrannieB
<CanoeBerry> Calling once..
<CanoeBerry> Calling twice..
<CanoeBerry> Calling thrice..
<CanoeBerry> APPROVED -- without forgetting the other half of the island of Hispaniola (Haiti!)
[ CLOSING REMARKS ]
<CanoeBerry> Thanks You All -- Meeting Adjourned.
<sgtpepper> iisidor: PM me for contact information
<GrannieB> sgtpepper ... if you need a teacher-type to help, I'd be happy to
<iisidor> ok
<CanoeBerry> Have a great weekend and don't forget to join those OLPC communities in NYC (teacher-prep) & Rhode Island (amazing high schools' fundraiser) this weekend:
<CanoeBerry> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_NYC
<CanoeBerry> http://olpcextravaganza.blogspot.com
<GrannieB> i'm out to lunch!