My fav was Alexei Yagudin and i am so sorry he retierd but life moves on and now my fav is Brian Joubert.Urs?

Devotee

11-21-2004, 06:58 PM

Evgeni Plushenko, definitely!

Chloe le Bopper

11-21-2004, 07:03 PM

I like Joubert, but I don't like that picture of him. I prefer Joubert photos that exhibit his grand ass :cool:

I like Weir and Buttle, and Sasha.

I'm sure that I could like other people if I paid more attention.

Sandra

11-21-2004, 07:06 PM

all i know is figure skateing will never be the same again without Alexei.
I just never liked Plushenko.

Fee

11-21-2004, 07:17 PM

Plushenko and his flailing arms :rolleyes: I miss Alexei a lot. I like Johnny Weir, he's has great lines and stretch, kind of reminds me of Paul Wylie (except that Johnny can actually land his jumps). Michelle is still my favorite female, but a lot of the Japanese women look interesting for the future.

Deco

11-21-2004, 07:49 PM

I don't watch figure ice skating. They don;t show it on tv actally here. I always watch skating on time (don't know how to say)

loeliepoelie

11-21-2004, 07:52 PM

My fave was also Alexei Yagudin!!! He was awesome at the winter olympics 2002!!! Especially with his program winter!!! I'm so sad he quit!!! He's skating shows in the US, I hope he comes to Europe one day...
I've also moved on to Brian Joubert, he's a cutie!!! :) And Alexei sort of coaches him, that's also a major plus!!!

My fave female is probably also Michelle, allthough I was really impressed by Sasha Cohen last time I saw her!

yeah i liked yagudin very good at salt lake, ive always luved this sport and get quite jelous when i see people do it coz i always av wanted to learn to skate! yeah Jouberts ok

khyber

11-21-2004, 09:37 PM

God help me, but my current fav is Sandhu. Or should I say Dr. Jekyell and Mr. Sandhu since you never know which one is going to show up. I also really like what I've seen lately of Weir. Thank god for the new scoring system that rewards things other than jumps.

I agree about Joubert's ass, having seen the nude photos !!!!!

My favorite Russian has always been Alexi Urmanov with his goofy outfits and handsome face.

Yagudin was OK, but I still prefer Zhenya.
Too bad Abt had too many injuries which ruined his career :sad:

kiro

11-22-2004, 01:46 AM

And anyone remember Ilia Kulik? I liked him a lot. He won the Olympics and then turned pro...

Fee

11-22-2004, 02:20 AM

and had a child with Katia Gordeeva. They are a cute couple.

kiro

11-22-2004, 02:43 AM

The last time I saw Ilia on TV, he was in some pro tour show.
He was in a movie, "Central Stage". The movie was about ballet, starring some top dancers from ABT (American Ballet Theatre). Ilia was acting as a dancer from Russia... in the movie he didn't skate at all...:(

Daniel

11-22-2004, 05:47 AM

Michelle Kwan is the best :D :kiss:

merle

11-22-2004, 10:30 AM

I have to say Yagudin was an amazing skater! His performance in Salt lake City 2002 was beyond any description! After he quit I don't follow figure skating that closely. Sandhu, Joubert, Zhenya are the ones I like most now. And the Japanese girls are great yeah!

Suzi

11-22-2004, 04:25 PM

The last time I saw Ilia on TV, he was in some pro tour show.
He was in a movie, "Central Stage". The movie was about ballet, starring some top dancers from ABT (American Ballet Theatre). Ilia was acting as a dancer from Russia... in the movie he didn't skate at all...:(

i luv that film!!! hmm didnt know he cud skate!

Socket

11-22-2004, 05:45 PM

And I used to like Alexander Abt :)
I loved him, too! What an elegant skater. His mentality was Safinesque, though.

Socket

11-22-2004, 05:46 PM

God help me, but my current fav is Sandhu. Or should I say Dr. Jekyell and Mr. Sandhu since you never know which one is going to show up. I also really like what I've seen lately of Weir. Thank god for the new scoring system that rewards things other than jumps.

I agree about Joubert's ass, having seen the nude photos !!!!!

My favorite Russian has always been Alexi Urmanov with his goofy outfits and handsome face.

The Ladies: MIchelle, Arakawa
When Urmanov was "on," he was magnificent to watch. I love his balletic style of skating.

Aurora

11-22-2004, 10:02 PM

:woohoo: You guys like Kevin van der Perren! I'm gonna assume you know your stuff, so how far do you think he can improve himself? (I can't see much of ice skating, is the quadruple working in competiton regularly yet?)

Yep, Joubert is :lick: and usually has nice choreographies, but I can't help adoring Plushenko to death. I saw Weir this weekend, great style!

Opinions about the new scoring system? :confused:

Aurora

11-22-2004, 10:03 PM

I agree about Joubert's ass, having seen the nude photos !!!!!:devil: do share!

I saw him on tv on the beach this weekend, good stuff indeed.

Chloe le Bopper

11-22-2004, 10:17 PM

:devil: do share!

I saw him on tv on the beach this weekend, good stuff indeed.
Screen caps next time, screen caps! ;)

His nude photos weren't very good, but they do display his butt well. He's turned sideways and wearing tennis shoes and socks and has a really blank look on his face :confused: It's more amusing than sexy, but whatever. Great ass :yeah: I'm not at home, but I suppose I can attach them later.

Aurora

11-22-2004, 10:22 PM

:yeah: Ever so nice, Rebecca! (naturally I quickly hurried to google him, no result as of yet...;))

Screen caps? I was caught completely by surprise, I had never noticed anything but his gracious sliding. Of course.

TennisLurker

11-22-2004, 10:29 PM

I like Plushenko when he behaves all girly

Aurora

11-22-2004, 10:31 PM

I haven't seen his manly moments I must admit.

TennisLurker

11-22-2004, 10:35 PM

Ive seen him only once, In fact, I thought all that androgynous thing was just his routine, not himself.

khyber

11-22-2004, 11:49 PM

:devil: do share!

I saw him on tv on the beach this weekend, good stuff indeed.
I tried to post a URL with the nude photo of Joubert but after I posted the message I clicked on the URL to check it and found that they had rigged the address so that it didn't go to the photo, but rather to a nude male porno site so I deleted the post ASAP.

However, here is how you can find the photo. Go to Yahoo and search under Joubert nude. The top listings are for a site that starts with vip... if you click on that you will get a page of Joubert photos. On the right about half way down you will see the nude photo, if you click on it you will get a larger version.

Chloe le Bopper

11-22-2004, 11:53 PM

Or wait till I post it here in the next little bit :p I'm home now, but I have ot run a few things before I can edit it to put it up on here.

It's REALLY not a good photo :scared: He just has a great butt, that's all :yeah:

Chloe le Bopper

11-23-2004, 12:54 AM

Here is the creepy "brian in tennis shoes" picture. Before you ask, NO, I didn't photoshop this. He really posed! I just shrunk it. The other one is from the same shoot, and is less creepy.

Leena

11-23-2004, 02:14 AM

It's weird looking at a muscular body with the head of a 13-year-old.

But, I still badly want to see his cock. :p

Chloe le Bopper

11-23-2004, 02:40 AM

Yeah, he has a young face :angel:

His costume this season leaves little to the imagination. If you're that interested, getty him :o

kiro

11-23-2004, 02:50 AM

Here is the creepy "brian in tennis shoes" picture. Before you ask, NO, I didn't photoshop this. He really posed! I just shrunk it. The other one is from the same shoot, and is less creepy.

*cough cough* Oh what a butt :o :o

Chloe le Bopper

11-23-2004, 02:50 AM

Maybe we should just rename this the "Brian's Butt Thread"?

kiro

11-23-2004, 02:57 AM

Maybe we should just rename this the "Brian's Butt Thread"?
:eek: :bolt:

Seriously, IMO he's too much of baby fat...hmm not my taste ;)

Chloe le Bopper

11-23-2004, 03:12 AM

Baby fat? The only baby fat I'm seeing is on his face. That butt is all muscle :p

Leena

11-23-2004, 03:13 AM

Yeah, he has a young face :angel:

His costume this season leaves little to the imagination. If you're that interested, getty him :o
I have...

All I'm finding is figure skating pics with that fruity looking Lepshenko or whatever.

Chloe le Bopper

11-23-2004, 03:21 AM

Yes, well, you'll find figure skating pictures when you getty him...

For the other stuff you need to have sekret sources like I do :devil:

NIghty night :D

star

11-23-2004, 03:39 AM

Slutskaya is on the ice right now........ at least on my T.V. ;)

It's lovely to see her back skating again -- fast and agressive and beautiful spins.

Leena

11-23-2004, 03:40 AM

I miss Oksana Baiul.

That girl is such a waste. She was so beautiful.

star

11-23-2004, 03:43 AM

very sad.

Vodka and ice. Seems like it would be a match, but it's not.

Kristen

11-23-2004, 05:48 AM

For me, its Plushenko... but I don't really follow ice skating. I just see it on tv by accident sometimes :) Plushenko reminds me of a Roger Federer of the ice :lol: I just wish he'd follow rogers lead and get a haircut.

Chloe le Bopper

11-23-2004, 09:25 AM

He did lose the mullet over the summer, but it seems to making it's way back. He looked no better without it :p

Sandra

11-23-2004, 05:10 PM

For me, its Plushenko... but I don't really follow ice skating. I just see it on tv by accident sometimes :) Plushenko reminds me of a Roger Federer of the ice :lol: I just wish he'd follow rogers lead and get a haircut.
What????Yagudin beat him almost e3verytime and last year he lost the Europeans.Not much of a domination.I agree wit the haircut and maybe a nosejob.

kiro

11-24-2004, 07:16 AM

What????Yagudin beat him almost e3verytime and last year he lost the Europeans.Not much of a domination.I agree wit the haircut and maybe a nosejob.

You'd better check their head-to-head record before you post that. ;)

Yagudin and Plushenko are both great skaters, and they are of very different styles.

Aurora

11-24-2004, 10:03 AM

:yeah: kiro
Different indeed, but they both make it seem so easy...

when is the next big appointment for the skaters?

Sandra

11-24-2004, 10:45 AM

Before yagudin got injuried he beat Plushenko in 3 big competitions including the Olympic games.

kiro

11-24-2004, 11:52 AM

Before yagudin got injuried he beat Plushenko in 3 big competitions including the Olympic games.

Yes, Plushenko was injured in 2002, and lost those big competitions, but before that, he beat Yagudin 4 times in a row too, including 2001 World Championship.

As far as I know, they two competed in the same tournament for more than 20 times, and the record is more close to a draw. The two had their ups and downs respectively.

And don't forget there was Ilia Kulik, who beats both of them in the same tournament (1999 Russian Championships). :worship: ;)

Sandra

11-24-2004, 12:02 PM

The idea was that Plusenko is not a federer of figure skateing.fed beats preatty much everyone and plushenko doesn't.I am sure that he will win the world championships this year cause they are in moscow and they're never going to give it to Brian no mather how good he skates.
I remember that at the Europen Champs last year Plushenko fell three times and still got a 5.7 not for artistic impresion so Brian hasn't got a chance at the world champs.Maybe europeans...

Chloe le Bopper

11-24-2004, 05:18 PM

Plushy won't be the only one making it hard for Brian to win :p

I think the next Grand Prix is the CUp or Russia. I'll get dates and blah later.

Ice Wars was shown in the US tonight. First time I've seen Yagudin in a while. He is a very beautiful man and it was great to see him skate. There is just something about him that says 'look at me' and he's not even trying to get your attention. Heavy sigh...

Chloe le Bopper

12-04-2004, 06:50 AM

I just read Brian is 178 cm tall.Better!
Here is my fav pic:
Brian has weird hair there. Yagudin looks hot though. Now, there is a coach-student combo that I could totally hit :p

Fee

12-04-2004, 06:28 PM

Uh-oh Rebecca, you may have set off Alfonso's 'Threesome Alarm'. He should be in here any minute....

Suzi

12-04-2004, 10:41 PM

yagudin does look hot, i have to agree

Chloe le Bopper

12-05-2004, 11:38 AM

Uh-oh Rebecca, you may have set off Alfonso's 'Threesome Alarm'. He should be in here any minute....
Oh no! Maybe his alarm broke? :(

Daniel

12-06-2004, 06:07 AM

yagudin???

Kwan is hot :drool:

Chloe le Bopper

12-06-2004, 07:48 AM

Kwan's okay. Sasah is cuter though :p

Sandra

12-25-2004, 06:46 PM

Does any of u know when the EC and WC are starting???

Booshie

12-26-2004, 12:14 AM

I love to watch figure skating -- like many of you, I really like Brian Joubert. He's awesome.... and Yagudin was spectacular! I am hoping that Kwan will still be able to win an Olympic Gold Medal.

I like:
Yagudin..... :hearts: I used to have a MAJOR crush on him. I'm over it now. I'll post my favourite pics later.
Plushenko........ sorry, ppl, but he is INCREDIBLY talented. :shrug: I'm rooting for him.
Alexander Abt............ *sigh* I sooooooooooooo loved him.......... to bad abt his injuries. And he is hotter than Yagudin.
Ilia Kulik...... again, very talented. I saw him in "Center Stage" too...... :inlove:

Oh, and Brian Joubert does nothing for me..... :shrug:

Sandra

12-28-2004, 03:38 PM

I dont see how one can root for both Alexei and Plushenko...I never liked him.And for me the hottest figure skater is Brian :hearts::inlove:even if Alexei will always remain my no 1.!Oh and I had a big crush on him when I was younger!!!

I dont see how one can root for both Alexei and Plushenko...
I can.......... :p ;)
When Alexei was still skating, I mostly rooted for him, but wanted them both to do good. Now, I'm just rooting for Plushenko. :p ;)

As for Brian....... sorry............. he's ok, but :shrug:........

Suzi

12-28-2004, 09:14 PM

I am hoping that Kwan will still be able to win an Olympic Gold Medal.

well i think its bout time Kwan got a gold olympic medal and maybe Turin is the place! I hope

Chloe le Bopper

01-27-2005, 09:13 PM

*bump*

Brian :hearts:

(I've just posted a similar message in another thread.... I think I need a cold shower or something)

He came in second at Euros, to Plushy. There was only about a 4 point difference though, so it's not so bad.

khyber

01-27-2005, 10:36 PM

*bump*

Brian :hearts:

(I've just posted a similar message in another thread.... I think I need a cold shower or something)

He came in second at Euros, to Plushy. There was only about a 4 point difference though, so it's not so bad.
How did Lambiel do?

Chloe le Bopper

01-27-2005, 11:20 PM

Lambiel was 4th, behind Linderman. It was like Worlds04 all over again :( Well, except that this time Lambiel popped a lot of his jumps, apparently.

Fee

01-28-2005, 03:39 AM

Ah, Alexei... and Ilia... what a sandwich.....

Oh my goodness, did I say that out loud?

Chloe le Bopper

01-28-2005, 08:17 PM

I loved the movie center stage.... but Ilia did absolutely nothing for me in it. I think he's just totally not my type in any way shape or form.

roisin

01-28-2005, 10:14 PM

i've been watching these euro championships (thats whats on at the moment isnt it?) religiously the past 2 days. the dance thing today was wicked!!!

ive never watched it before but that french dude- brian someone is hot!! :drool: and i like the swiss guy too...lambiel i think.

khyber

01-28-2005, 11:00 PM

i've been watching these euro championships (thats whats on at the moment isnt it?) religiously the past 2 days. the dance thing today was wicked!!!

ive never watched it before but that french dude- brian someone is hot!! :drool: and i like the swiss guy too...lambiel i think.
Here is a photo of Lambiel

roisin

01-28-2005, 11:01 PM

oooh yeah hes the dude :yeah:

thanks! :hug:

Chloe le Bopper

01-29-2005, 12:40 AM

Here is a photo of Lambiel
Doesn't somebody have that as an avatar?! His photoshoot seems to have turned out better than Brian's :(

I like Lambiel's skating :)

khyber

01-29-2005, 04:04 AM

Doesn't somebody have that as an avatar?! His photoshoot seems to have turned out better than Brian's :(

I like Lambiel's skating :)
Actually, that was me. I put him up as my avatar before European's for good luck, but alas it was not to be. I love his spins and his enthusiatic approach to his programs. :)

Chloe le Bopper

01-29-2005, 05:42 AM

Brian :sad: I think that my love for him may have ended immediately after seeing his outfit (from his appearance on some French tv show)... I put these in another forum, but I'll put them here too. *cries*

Sandra

01-29-2005, 12:20 PM

I am so upset cause of Brian..I still cant belive he wants to retire...:bigcry:He could've win these EC if it werent for those two faults.I just loved his short program..e looked so sweet :hearts:....I've been crying for the past days cause of him...I wonder what could make him change his mind about retirig after The olympics(as much as i like alexi-i think this was his idea):confused:.
BTW does Brian have a girlfriend????Any more pics from the EC?

roisin

01-29-2005, 02:34 PM

omfg what is brian wearing....... :eek:

hes gonna retire??? what age is he???!!!

khyber

01-29-2005, 02:50 PM

Well roisin said it best
omfg what is brian wearing....... :eek:
!!
Tara "retired" right after the Olympics, so its been done before. Maybe Brian doesn't have the stomach for competing if he doesn't think he can win. Plushy's got the quads and the Canadians and now some Americans have the artistry. I'd say about 1 to 1 1/2 years ago my money would have been on Brian (even thou my heart is always with Miss Thing - Sandhu), but I don't know if Brian can step it up.

Suzi

01-29-2005, 04:08 PM

omfg what is brian wearing....... :eek:

hes gonna retire??? what age is he???!!!

:rolleyes: its a bit eccentric :lol:

well hes only 20 at the mo! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/kao/mamies/uru.gif

ok so brian is 20 and hes gonna retire. im not seeing the sense in that! do they retire young in skating or something?! hes a kerazy boy.

Chloe le Bopper

01-29-2005, 05:18 PM

Where did you get the news about him planning on retiring at the end of 2006? I haven't seen this anywhere :confused:

As for what he's wearing.... I. Don't. EVEN WANT TO KNOW.

roisin

01-29-2005, 05:21 PM

As for what he's wearing.... I. Don't. EVEN WANT TO KNOW.

i think thats a very wise choice

roisin

01-29-2005, 05:36 PM

no wonder i love the boy lambiel, he has the best taste. :bounce:

1. What's your opinion about the Olympics, here, in Greece?
2. For which games did you by tickets?
3. Who is your favorite athlete?

1. It was awesome! I love the summertime, the Mediterranean atmosphere, the Olympics, it was wonderful! And I met Roger Federer, which was great.
2. I watched… cycling because it was free! *grin* I would have loved to watch some tennis but it was too expensive; gymnastics was sold out; athletics hadn't started yet and the beach volley stadium was too far from the city center…
3. Juan Carlos Ferrero and Venus Williams

Suzi

01-29-2005, 05:46 PM

A great reason to love him then heh :yeah:

roisin

01-29-2005, 05:49 PM

awh i loved him before i knew but now :hearts:

he rockkkkks :yeah:

Suzi

01-29-2005, 06:02 PM

hmmm i cant wait for the exhibition thing tomorrow!!

roisin

01-29-2005, 06:09 PM

are eurosport showing it?? what time??

Suzi

01-29-2005, 06:12 PM

umm yup at bout half 2 pm!

roisin

01-29-2005, 06:14 PM

good good! eurosport is the bomb this week, showing AO and the skating!

Fee

01-29-2005, 06:43 PM

When a figure skater says he is going to 'retire' it doesn't mean he's going to stop skating, it means he is going to stop competing at the Olympic eligible level. He will 'turn pro' and join one of the touring shows (like Stars on Ice or something) and skate for money instead of titles.

roisin

01-29-2005, 06:51 PM

oh ok that would make sense then, thanks fee

Chloe le Bopper

01-29-2005, 06:52 PM

What is the source on Brian's not continuing as an amature, anyways? Did somebody post it and I missed? I didn't see anything about this on FSU. Last I heard, he was still joking about going for the gold in pairs in 2010 ;) (I'll be there, even if he won't! Rah!)

khyber

01-29-2005, 07:12 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing the coverage of European's next week because from what I've read the girl from Finland really got hosed and the judges totally held up Slut. I've only seen the Finnish girl once before, but I remember liking what I saw.

Marine

01-29-2005, 08:51 PM

I am so upset cause of Brian..I still cant belive he wants to retire...:bigcry:He could've win these EC if it werent for those two faults.I just loved his short program..e looked so sweet :hearts:....I've been crying for the past days cause of him...I wonder what could make him change his mind about retirig after The olympics(as much as i like alexi-i think this was his idea):confused:.
BTW does Brian have a girlfriend????Any more pics from the EC?

I read l'equipe "sport newspaper" almost every day and I didn't read he'll retire. :rolleyes:
He has troubles with the french federation of figure skating, the wanted him to leave Yagudin, who helps him in his choregraphies... and I knowalso he broke with his trainer and is now with his former trainer.

Sandra

01-30-2005, 07:07 AM

The comentators in Romania said that Brian old Eurosport that after Torino 2006 he might retire(i think it was Alexei's idea) or move to pairs.I am sick of my fav skaters reitring afeter the Olympics!!!:bigcry::sad::bigcry:
Oh...and Marine can u post a pic of his girlfriend????

If you want pics of them together, maybe on corbis.com (search laetitia bleger)

Sandra

01-30-2005, 01:11 PM

Is it a serious thing or just dating???
She is nice but I cant belive she is the most beautiful woman in France!
And I hope he doesnt think what he will do after Torino 2006..If him winning the Olympics means retiring...I'd rather not to,but I cant wish for him to lose..:sad:

Sandra

01-30-2005, 02:31 PM

I just saw Brian's gala program and i think i am in love :inlove:he is so sweet!I wanna be Miss France!!!!Yet i didnt see him too happy to skate..It makes me worry...

Suzi

01-30-2005, 03:01 PM

I saw it too! http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/kao/otn/pcupid.gif great!!! i also saw the repeat of his skating and thought wow!!!

awh the gala thing was legend! brian was deadly, doin lord of the dance woo! and pluschenko was so damn funny at the end! :lol:

Suzi

01-30-2005, 05:38 PM

Does anyone of you still remember Maria Butyrskaya? :)
ive kinda heard of the name why? :p

GermanBoy

01-30-2005, 05:53 PM

Really liked her! :) She was a lady on the ice! :D

Sandra

01-31-2005, 10:45 AM

I have seen Brian's pics with Miss france..and it seems serious :sad: Are they toghether for a long time???Are they thinkin of marriage?????
Oh...and of course I rememeber maria.She was my fav female skater....

khyber

02-08-2005, 04:02 PM

Okay, here are my impressions after seeing Europeans this weekend on TV.

Women
They showed Slutskaya’s short program, the only short we got to see in the US. I think they showed it as a way of explaining how Slute won, considering her performance in the long. I really enjoyed the short, it showed all of her strengths and I loved her costume! I’m glad they changed the rules to allow pants again. I think they stopped that after the spandex bodysuit of Debbie Thomas. As for the scores in the long (no more anonymous scoring, please!!!) I think they were trying to give Slute a physiological boost for World’s when she faces the North Americans and the Japanese.

Poykio was lovely but you could see a real speed difference between her and Slute.

Liashenko needs to just give in and become a Rockette. For those of you who don’t know the Rockettes are a dance troupe known for their high kicks!!

Sebestyen, god how I hate that costume. I’ve hated it all season with the fire of a thousands nuns!!! And no more Carmen,... please I’ll be a good girl, I’ll eat all my vegetables, anything, just no one every again skate to Carmen.

Sokolova is, I think, the prettiest girl in figure skating. I like her soft style, but she’s just not consistent.

Pairs
My least favorite discipline and I skipped over most of it mainly because the current crop of Russians just leave me cold, especially Petrova/Tik, I just never got them. Anyway, they once again showed “the fall”, cuz you can never get enough of Tatiana’s face slamming into the ice. Well, it was on opposite the SuperBowl, so I guess they needed some violence to compete.

Dance
Wow, the French were great! D&S were smooth, flowing and had great lifts. I really like what I saw, good luck to them at World’s. I don’t like this year’s program for N&K, enough with the Tosca already. (Please see my Carmen rant and substitute the word Tosca). It was if they were carrying around a sign that said “look at me, I am dramatically emoting” and god knows over emoting and ice dancing are made for each other, but even I have limits (yes, Israelis I’m looking at you) G&G leave me cold, they always have. One last thing, someone hold Sergei down and cut his hair.

Men
The biggest change in skating due to the CofP, I think is the men. Now you shouldn’t be able to win just doing back crossovers, wave your arms a little bit and jump, jump, jump. This makes the North Americans more of a threat to Plushenko. Plushy has never been my cup of tea, but even I can see that he is now trying to be more of a complete skater, more power to him. Glad to see that Joubert has toned down the Yagudinisms. Brian should not try to be a karaoke version of Alexi. Very pleasantly surprised with Lindemann, like his program a lot. I know he had problems, but way better than the GPs and his choreographer seems to know what works for him. Such spring in his jumps, but will never be a top tier skater. Now my little Swiss Chocolate..Lambiel. I’m sure the surgery and loss of training time have had an effect. Thought he should have gotten higher base scores for the spins, what a joy to watch. I loved Lucinda Ruh and Denise B. because they brought something to the table that no one else could match. Must be something in the water in Switzerland. Do you think if we put skates on Roger and pushed him out onto the ice that he would spin like a top? Lambiel’s routine seemed a bit rushed to me and I think its because he doesn’t hold him moves and positions enough for them to feel finished, SL please get a tape of Buttle and take a look!

Well, that’s it, can’t wait for Worlds.

Sandra

03-07-2005, 05:35 PM

The Worlds are in week :bounce: I can't wait!!!!!!
I just hope for Brian to get the gold medal!!!!!He promised that on his website so I am waitng for him to keep his promise ;).I really think he is the best figure skater right now and i never considered him a copy of Alexei (which I loved-see my blog ;)) and i think he is gettin better day by day.I just want to change my desktop picture of him with a new one with the gold medal!!!!
:woohoo:Allez Brian!:woohoo:

Marine

03-07-2005, 05:54 PM

I just saw Brian's gala program and i think i am in love :inlove:he is so sweet!I wanna be Miss France!!!!

They broke up. ;)

Sandra

03-07-2005, 06:00 PM

Really???????

Sandra

03-08-2005, 11:25 AM

I made this pic,I think Brian fans will like this,but sorry for the Plushenko fans,i hope I won't get badrepped :P.

Wednesday Addams

03-08-2005, 04:08 PM

Sorry, Sandra, I'm rooting for Plushy. :p

Sandra

03-08-2005, 04:57 PM

Don't worry Dora!i knew that,but it doesnt mean he is gonna win!!!!

Suzi

03-08-2005, 07:35 PM

no it doesnt brian is going to win :lol:

Sandra

03-08-2005, 07:38 PM

When i said he isn't gonna win i was talikng about Plushenko!

Suzi

03-08-2005, 07:43 PM

i know thats why i said Brians gonna win!

Nymeria

03-08-2005, 08:31 PM

I hope Plushenko is going to win :nerner:

Chloe le Bopper

03-08-2005, 10:47 PM

Plushy will probably win, but I can always hope for people I like more :p

Leo

03-08-2005, 11:13 PM

Jeffweeeeeh: Win! And Irina as well because her program is the most interesting and entertaining. I'm excited! But I'll be out of town. So here's to the power of the VCR... cheers!

NEW YORK (AP) -- Michelle Kwan, with five world championships and nine U.S. titles, will have a new challenge at this year's World Figure Skating Championships. She'll encounter the sport's new scoring system for the first time.

After more than a century, the world championships return to Russia beginning Monday in Moscow. Appropriately, Russians are favorites in all four events, although half of those skaters train in the United States.

Kwan won world titles in 1996, 1998, 2000, 2001 and 2003 under the old 6.0 system. The new scoring system will make its debut at worlds after the International Skating Union adopted it last June in reaction to the pairs scandal at the 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics.

Kwan has avoided the Grand Prix series the past two years, missing the trial events for the new system that measures jumps, spins and stepwork, as well as artistic elements such as interpretation and choreography.

She says she will be ready.

"There's a lot of things I have to be very aware of, with the spins, with the change of edge, with the turns in the footwork," Kwan said in Portland, Ore., after her ninth U.S. victory and eighth in a row.

The European championships became the first international competition outside the Grand Prix series to use the new system, in January at Turin, Italy, site of next year's Olympics.

Those Olympics already are on the minds of many skaters, with jockeying for the inside track for the 2006 Games starting in Moscow -- especially among the women, where three former or current world champions will compete.

In addition to Kwan there is Russia's Irina Slutskaya. The 2002 world champion and Olympic silver medalist continues her comeback after inflammation of the heart lining limited her last season to the world championships in Germany, where she finished ninth.

This year is another story. She is unbeaten in six major competitions, including a victory over Kwan in an invitational. She and Kwan have been competing against each other since December 1993 at the world juniors in Colorado Springs, Colo.

"I remember the first time I came to the States," Slutskaya recalled. "I saw the girl. I said 'Oh, this girl is really good.'

"I tried to talk to her. She was surprised because I had black skates. She looked at me and said 'Wow, you have black skates, how do you skate?' It was really funny."

Slutskaya has beaten Kwan nine times since 2000, although Kwan usually prevails in world championships.

Kwan, however, didn't win in Dortmund last year. That world title went to Shizuka Arakawa of Japan, whose combination jumps score heavily in the new system.

Kwan didn't even take second, beaten by the talented but enigmatic American Sasha Cohen.

This year's qualifying round for women, on Wednesday, has Kwan, Slutskaya and Arakawa in the same group based on last year's placements. It also counts for 25 percent of the total mark.

Kwan will miss the old system.

"I'm going to be sad when the 6.0 system goes. I'm very sentimental about that," Kwan said.

She had 57 6.0s in major championships, including six at the last worlds and the last ever given out -- since she was the final skater in the competition.

Slutskaya won the European title this year for the sixth time _ only greats Katarina Witt and Sonia Henie also had at least six. But Slutskaya's skate in Turin was lackluster. She said an increase in medication may have affected her skating.

Another winner in Turin was Evgeni Plushenko, who is looking for his fourth world title. Plushenko, also a Russian, has complained about being weary of top-level competition.

"I am tired this year because I have had a lot of competitions. For 10 years I have skated in a lot of competitions," he said.

Still, he wins; he's also unbeaten this season, including an unwanted trip to Beijing for the Grand Prix Finals.

He was pressured into competing by the ISU after finishing the series as just an alternate. When two-time U.S. champion Johnny Weir had to withdraw with a foot injury, Plushenko was called.

Weir is coming on this year. He won his second American title and two Grand Prix meets without a quad. He relies on artistry, which also counts in the new system.

But he still easily was beaten by Plushenko at the Cup of Russia in their only encounter, Weir's only defeat this season.

"A quad is a very big part of men's skating today and I do realize I need one. I will put one in when I'm ready to," Weir said.

Frenchman Brian Joubert, who beat Plushenko for the 2004 European title and finished second to Plushenko at that event this year, is also a factor but has had coaching problems.

So has Tim Goebel. The American won the Olympic bronze medal in 2002 and two world silver medals in 2003, but had to take off 2004 because of boot problems. He switched coaches from Frank Carroll to Audrey Weisiger.

The pairs event also features a skater coming back from injury.

Tatiana Totmianina crashed to the ice and was knocked unconscious at Skate America in Pittsburgh in October when partner Maxim Marinin lost his balance on a lift. In a hospital for a few days with a concussion and bruises, she was back on the ice practicing two weeks later in Chicago, where they train.

She still refuses to look at tapes of the accident. And they came back to win the European title in nearly flawless fashion.

They won the world title last year when favored Chinese Shen Xue and Zhao Hongbo were not in contention after the short program. Although the Chinese won the free program brilliantly, the Russians took the title.

Despite their high-flying throws and acrobatics, the Chinese clearly are not invincible. Totmianina and Marinin have beaten them three of the last four times.

Three Russian and three Chinese pairs will probably take the top six spots.

Russians also lead in the ice dance, although -- surprise -- there is a chance for an American medal, the first in that event in 20 years.

Tanith Belbin and Ben Agosto were second to world champions Tatiana Navka and Roman Kostomarov at the Grand Prix Finals. Navka and Kostomarov, who train in Montclair, N.J., were beaten early in the season, but have not lost since.

The last time the world competition was held in Russia was in 1903. The closest it had gotten to Russia since then was in 1999 at Helsinki, Finland, where the Russians took all four world titles.

Russians could pick up all four world championships again this year. In fact, Russia has taken 24 of 48 world titles since its return as a separate country in 1993.

Copyright 2004 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

Nymeria

03-12-2005, 08:40 AM

Why dont u belive me?
i really have a feeling that Brian will win and when i feel something it happens!!!!!!!
Allez Brian :woohoo:!

I just don't want to believe you coz I want Plushenko to win :p

Sandra

03-12-2005, 07:39 PM

Another winner in Turin was Evgeni Plushenko, who is looking for his fourth world title. Plushenko, also a Russian, has complained about being weary of top-level competition.

"I am tired this year because I have had a lot of competitions. For 10 years I have skated in a lot of competitions," he said.

Still, he wins; he's also unbeaten this season, including an unwanted trip to Beijing for the Grand Prix Finals.

He was pressured into competing by the ISU after finishing the series as just an alternate. When two-time U.S. champion Johnny Weir had to withdraw with a foot injury, Plushenko was called.

Weir is coming on this year. He won his second American title and two Grand Prix meets without a quad. He relies on artistry, which also counts in the new system.

But he still easily was beaten by Plushenko at the Cup of Russia in their only encounter, Weir's only defeat this season.

"A quad is a very big part of men's skating today and I do realize I need one. I will put one in when I'm ready to," Weir said.

Frenchman Brian Joubert, who beat Plushenko for the 2004 European title and finished second to Plushenko at that event this year, is also a factor but has had coaching problems.

So has Tim Goebel. The American won the Olympic bronze medal in 2002 and two world silver medals in 2003, but had to take off 2004 because of boot problems. He switched coaches from Frank Carroll to Audrey Weisiger.

What is this????It seems like Brian has the third chance to win this and makes plushenko seem like a king,like he has no rival!!!!!!
It is a dumb article!At least for me!

Daniel

03-15-2005, 09:14 PM

Good luck to Michelle this week Go and win the Worlds Champ. :D :clap2:

We don't get any skating coverage until the 17th, if any Canadians or others who have coverage see this, please post details.

thanks, :worship:

Chloe le Bopper

03-16-2005, 07:13 AM

Lambiel was wicked. I can't believe Joubert scored so close to him in the SP :confused:

graffiti

03-16-2005, 07:35 AM

Hello (I'm new here ;) ),

It's nice to see a thread dedicated to figure skating since I'm also a big fan! :)
I didn't see all the performances yesterday but I saw the last two groups. And boy, was Lambiel FANTASTIC!!! His skating is just so elegant, sculpturesque and emotional! Plus, all the great spins he produces. I think I have a new favourite figure skater, it was sort of empty place after Yagudin quit. I hope he'll be just as good on Thursday!

I just felt sorry for Lindemann, he was totally off yesterday :( Hope he can rebound tomorrow.

syd

03-16-2005, 12:11 PM

I hope Lambiel or Joubert to win !!!
i dislike plushenko, i don' want him to win, he's so arrogant

Alexei we miss you

Eruwen

03-16-2005, 12:20 PM

And boy, was Lambiel FANTASTIC!!! His skating is just so elegant, sculpturesque and emotional! Plus, all the great spins he produces. I think I have a new favourite figure skater Is he the Swiss guy? I saw him yesterday... he's amazing! I LOVED the spins! So fast, so elegant!

syd

03-16-2005, 12:22 PM

yes , stephane lambiel is swiss,

graffiti

03-16-2005, 12:55 PM

Actually there are quite a few great skaters, imo. Evan Lysacek (nice smile :hearts: ), that Russian guy (who's coach is T.Tarasova) - forgot his name :o He was ON FIRE!! My eyes got all teary after his performance and seeing Tarasova cry is quite something ;)
Joubert is very good, techincally. But he lacks in the artictic department. You can't really learn to be emotional or artistic, you either have it or not (like Plushenko who OBVIOUSLY has it ;)) BUT, I like his outfits, they got character ;)

syd

03-16-2005, 01:02 PM

Joubert has improved but i think it's just thanks to his new advicers (yagudin,tarasova, and i forgot the other one )
Because before, he wasn't good as he is now !! alexei learned him a lot !!

graffiti

03-16-2005, 01:11 PM

Yeah, he surely tought him a lot and it shows. Sometimes even too much, especially when it comes to steps. But he has toned it down a bit, i guess.
And Tarasova is just brilliant, almost everything she touches turns gold! Well, not literally but it's exciting to see what she makes out of all those skaters!

Plushy fell..... :sad: Dang!
Oh, well, he will hopefully pull it together for the LP.

Suzi

03-16-2005, 01:53 PM

Yup i thought it was very good and agree that technically Joubert has got it but maybe in performance need to be it bit more smoother and artistic but he has come a long way. And Lambiel :eek: wot can i say very talented. Plushenko yeah he fell but some of the other bits he did, the choreography was v.v good.

+ graffiti, Lysacek does have a good smile and also quite good as well, wouldnt of thought he be where he is!

EternalFlame

03-17-2005, 02:16 PM

Stephane Lambiel, OMG he skates so beautifully. So emotional. He takes you to somewhere else. I dunno where it is, to the neverland maybe :p
The spins are just awesome! He is my fav men's skater at the moment. I'll be cheering for him tonight...!

the cat

03-17-2005, 02:39 PM

I have enjoyed figure skating for a very long time and I am very sad Evgeni Plushenko had to withdraw from the 2005 World Championships in Moscow because of an injury. :( On the other hand I am so happy that Tatiana Totmianina and Maxim Marinin retained their Pairs world championship in their Russian homeland. :D Especially after Tatiana suffered that frightening head and neck injury a few months ago.

I really hope Plushenko lets his battered body fully heal and takes it slow heading into the Winter Olympics next year. The only way he can win the men's gold medal in Turin is if he's healthy and strong and skating well.

I saw an online news report today located at www.mosnews.com/news/2005/03/17/plushenko.shtml about Evgeni Plushenko withdrawing from the 2005 World Championships in Moscow with an adducter injury. As injured as he is I don't see how he could have done an outstanding long program to win the gold medal. I do wish Evgeni rested up for the World Championships and didn't skate in the much less important European Championships where the Russian's swept the gold medals.

Suzi

03-17-2005, 04:09 PM

:hug: omg cant believe evgeni has pulled out, wot a shame! but hope it is not long term

the cat

03-17-2005, 04:23 PM

It sounds like it's a serious injury Suzi. It's imperative Plushenko lets this injury and other injuries fully heal so he can be ready to skate great in Turin next February. The young men's figure skaters are very good and improving and Evgeni will have to be at his best in the 2006 Winter Olympics to win the gold medal. But first things first. Plushenko needs to let his body rest and recover from the injuries. Then I hope he skates just enough to stay sharp next fall and winter.

*sniff* brian! :bigcry: omg he just.....he just flopped. omg he kept falling, and he just looked soooo gutted when he was getting his marks. awh :hug: and then the commentators were saying 'if ever brian was the win this, now was his time with plushenko out...' :sad:

wtf is up with the marking system though :confused: i dunno how that candian guy got a medal cos IMO his 2nd mark was far too high. :shrug:

but LAMBIEL!!! :worship: ok so it wasnt his best performance, he missed a few jumps but his 2 quads were :eek: fantastic!! he looked awfully cute as well!!

Marine

03-17-2005, 07:06 PM

ohhh Brian, you shoked :mad:

Chloe le Bopper

03-17-2005, 07:20 PM

GUTTED for Brian. :sad:

THRILLED for Buttle. But really, it says a lot for the final flight performances that he was the silver medalist with so many mistakes.

Chloe le Bopper

03-17-2005, 07:21 PM

*sniff* brian! :bigcry: omg he just.....he just flopped. omg he kept falling, and he just looked soooo gutted when he was getting his marks. awh :hug: and then the commentators were saying 'if ever brian was the win this, now was his time with plushenko out...' :sad:

wtf is up with the marking system though :confused: i dunno how that candian guy got a medal cos IMO his 2nd mark was far too high. :shrug:

but LAMBIEL!!! :worship: ok so it wasnt his best performance, he missed a few jumps but his 2 quads were :eek: fantastic!! he looked awfully cute as well!!
By Buttle's second marks do you mean his program components? Because that is the meat of his overall performance. His second mark is almost always better than this technical mark. I will reserve my judgement on he technical mark until I see it again tonight and can compare it to the others. I saw Buttle live on Canadian TV but nobody else.

roisin

03-17-2005, 07:26 PM

By Buttle's second marks do you mean his program components? Because that is the meat of his overall performance. His second mark is almost always better than this technical mark. I will reserve my judgement on he technical mark until I see it again tonight and can compare it to the others. I saw Buttle live on Canadian TV but nobody else.
yeah the program components. i mean, it was a great performance but i didnt think it deserved that high a mark. but fair play to him all the same. and the wee american chap! i like him, he looks like a younger greame souness! :lol:

Chloe le Bopper

03-17-2005, 07:34 PM

Buttle will always get some of the highest PC marks. I don't really see what the problem with that is. His coreography is just fantastic, he really sells his program, blah. If you want to argue his technical mark I might understand it, but his PC mark? :confused:

roisin

03-17-2005, 07:39 PM

maybe it was his technical mark....i dont know which comes first! :p

Suzi

03-17-2005, 08:37 PM

http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/kao/otn/pconfettiright.gif Félicitation Stephane!!!http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/kao/otn/pconfettileft.gif
Although it was not a flawless performance at least he didnt buckle under the pressure and still got a sound technical and PC mark!! he truly deserves it!

but for Joubert commisération! I was gutted and I just wanted to give him a big fat hug :hug: I cud see in his eyes he was welling up and i actually cried for him :tears:

For the others, I didnt quite get buttles PC but wot do i know!!! and Lysachek :eek: well big claps to him he did really well i mean its his first worlds and he gets a bronze (i see a bright future ahead) and also Wier with an injury he still gets 4th (although i think he should of at elast get a medal)

aww cute...i saw the interview with him backstage and he was so exstatic im so happy for him!

roisin

03-17-2005, 10:07 PM

yeah i saw that too! bless him, he was jumping around the place like a mad thing! pity it was in french tho, didnt understand a word! :lol: whos your man that interviews the skaters backstage?? he does my head in!

Suzi

03-17-2005, 10:10 PM

:lol: its the hair factor i think!! hes an ex french ice skater?

Im really seriously thinking of doing French again ;)

roisin

03-17-2005, 10:14 PM

:lol: yeah his hair is damn scary! so is his weirdass voice when he speaks english!!! it was alrite tho cos he was interviewing lambiel, so that made up for it ;)

khyber

03-18-2005, 03:14 AM

Okay, I just watched the US coverage of World's. The men we got to see:

Right off, let me say that I feel for you Joubert fans. Its like me watching Sandhu implode, although I didn't get to see Eman this time. I must say that if Joubert can't stand up on his quads he doesn't stand a chance against those with more artistry (Buttle, Eman, Weir and Lambiel).

I'm very happy for Lambiel, but I would be happier if Weir and Plushy were healthy and it was an all around fair fight.

I didn't watch any of the Pair's because other than Shen/Zhao, they all leave me cold. Tomorrow, some of the women's and dance.

Devotee

03-18-2005, 05:39 AM

Has anyone else noticed that Evgeni Plushenko since last spring has looked more and more tired, sick and under strain?
I especially do not like the way he looked during his interview after withdrawing from the World Championships (more than sadness was weighing him down).

He pushes himself too hard and tries to meet very, very high expectations.

:tears: He is my favorite male skater! :tears:

Chloe le Bopper

03-18-2005, 06:06 AM

Me thinks it's been a long 4 years.

bad gambler

03-18-2005, 06:07 AM

i like watching figure skating - but know nothing about the names

graffiti

03-18-2005, 06:27 AM

Stephane :hearts: :kiss: :worship: :bounce:
It wasn't perfect but he was definitely the best out of all the competitors. And his elegance in movements is just breathtaking! :hearts:

[QUOTE=khyber] I must say that if Joubert can't stand up on his quads he doesn't stand a chance against those with more artistry (Buttle, Eman, Weir and Lambiel).

I'm very happy for Lambiel, but I would be happier if Weir and Plushy were healthy and it was an all around fair fight. QUOTE]

I agree on Brian. If he doesn't land his jumps he has hard time competing with the top guys...
And he totally fucked up yesterday :sad: :sad:
But the one who fucked up even MORE was the Japanese guy :eek: :eek: Poor lad! I was surprised he didn't just walk off after a while cause yesterday absolutely nothing was going his way (BTW, I loved his hairdo :cool: )
Also Griazev disappointed but I'm sure he'll bounce back.
So seeing all these guys struggle made me little cautious. After Stephane messed up one jump, I was all thinking, ok here we go AGAIN :lol:

BTW, I was thinking the same thing about Plushy being out (didn't know Weir was injured). It would have felt so mush better if all the guys were healthy and competing (although I'm ok with Plushenko not getting any medal :p )
But it's sport and what can you do...

Suzi

03-18-2005, 07:47 AM

yup Griasev was a bit dissapointing i thought he would at least in top 10 but heh wot can you do at the end of the day it doesnt matter how well you do in practie or wot ever (yeah obvioisly it cant towards it) but it wot happens on the night, if you 'fucked up' as you nicely put it youve basically buggered up your chances! but maybe it was a one-off for Joubert (Hopefully)

:woohoo: :woohoo: I love watching him skate! And he used music from King Arthur! :worship:

I saw him when he got his marks... At first he couldn't believe it, and then he was sooooo happy, jumping and screaming! So cute!

graffiti

03-18-2005, 08:44 AM

Yeah, hopfully it was one-off. He is talanted and deserves to be at the top. I bet it's gonna hurt for a while but hopefully he can put it behind.
Figure skating is one cruel sport coz all year long you train like a madman and then you've got 5min to show what you can. If you mess it than thank you and good bye :sad:

graffiti

03-18-2005, 08:46 AM

And yes, Lambie is such a cutie! :hearts: :kiss:

roisin

03-18-2005, 09:00 AM

I especially do not like the way he looked during his interview after withdrawing from the World Championships (more than sadness was weighing him down).
yeah i saw that too, he didnt look right. he kept saying that his mother & his coach and everyone was telling him to try it and not pull out but i think he made the right choice cos he could've made it worse and then be fucked for Turin.

Suzi

03-18-2005, 11:50 AM

I've seen photos of when plushy annonced his withdrawal and he looked totally drained out like he had no energy left :tears: but i hope he takes as much time off so he can recover quickly!

Doris Loeffel

03-18-2005, 01:15 PM

Well done Stéphane!!!
Glade you fought back after you messed up your first jump!!
Concrats - looking forward to the olympics...

roisin

03-18-2005, 04:27 PM

Stephane LAMBIEL - Fantastic spinner. Sadly, as soon as he opened his mouth I was turned off. Shut up and skate, Stephane. ;)
why what did he say?? :confused:

the cat

03-18-2005, 04:59 PM

Good luck to Irina Slutskaya! :) I hope she wins the gold medal in her hometown after all the health struggles she's gone through. Udachi Irina! :bouncy: But if anyone beats her for the gold I hope it is Sasha Cohen.

Daniel

03-19-2005, 12:37 AM

Irina well done :yeah: but michelle :sad: what went wrong baby??? :(

Iheartandy&roger

03-19-2005, 05:30 AM

I am proud of my canadian dude for actually coming through when he said he would congrats Jeffrey! anyways the new scoring system is really coming through it is giving everyone an equal chance and it has been a pretty good world championships and I can't wait to see the free skate for the women it should be awesome!

heya

03-19-2005, 05:36 AM

Stephane LAMBIEL :yeah: GENIUS (SUI)

Chloe le Bopper

03-19-2005, 07:51 AM

Watched the men's worlds last night. Interesting cast of characters but it's been too long since we had a Scott Hamilton-type big personality/talent really entertain us. :sad: And in this group of prissy boys, we need a macho Elvis Stojko to jam things up again. :rocker2:

Joubert is soooo not a prissy boy! BAN.

There will never be another Elvis, however. That mullet was unique and will not be replicated in skating. It's sad :sad:

Stephane LAMBIEL - Fantastic spinner. Sadly, as soon as he opened his mouth I was turned off. Shut up and skate, Stephane. ;)

Well, English is his second (third?) language. Was it something he said, or just his voice in general? :confused:

Jeffrey BUTTLE - does nothing for me. I didn't think his performance was medal-worthy at all but whatever. :shrug:
]
BAN. The Jeffy is great. Sadly, that performance was not his best... but nobody elses was either, so that is why he medalled.

I ADORE Johnny Weir. You should read some of his interviews. He's so fantastic and snarky :D

Brian JOUBERT - so is this guy supposed to be "the star" of skating these days? I've been hearing a lot about him. Too bad he choked last night. Is this normal or unusual for him to fall under pressure like that? I like his looks and his skating but his outfits crack me up. They look like one of Janet Jackson's military outfits (circa 1989). :lol:

Brian is usually much better than that when something important is on the line. I don't know if it's that he's used to having Plush around to push him to be his very best or what :shrug: This was totally out of character for him, it was awful.

His outfits this season of sort of stunk. He can do better than that.

Anyways, a lot of the Joubert hype is based on his looks, not his skating. Not that he isn't a great skater, because he is... but if he was ugly, hardly anybody would care. Me included ;)

Right off, let me say that I feel for you Joubert fans. Its like me watching Sandhu implode, although I didn't get to see Eman this time. I must say that if Joubert can't stand up on his quads he doesn't stand a chance against those with more artistry (Buttle, Eman, Weir and Lambiel).

Well, it's not quite like watching Eman ;) I Lurve Sasah Cohen, but I know that when the pressure is on, she's going to do something silly like stumble on her spiral or whatever :p With Joubert... this was a whole new experience. He flops early in the season sometimes, but not like this at the Worlds or Euros. :(

Chloe le Bopper

03-19-2005, 07:55 AM

Yeah, hopfully it was one-off. He is talanted and deserves to be at the top. I bet it's gonna hurt for a while but hopefully he can put it behind.
Figure skating is one cruel sport coz all year long you train like a madman and then you've got 5min to show what you can. If you mess it than thank you and good bye :sad:

Joubert usually isn't that great in the early season anyways, so it's not a big deal if he comes back a bit rough. He usually peaks for Worlds and Euros. Hopefully he peaks around that time again next year and puts this mess behind him :( He's hardworking. I believe he'll bounce back.

onewoman74

03-19-2005, 01:12 PM

Here is my take of the championships...

I was rooting for Brian and he completely fell apart in the FS...shocking! No Pluskenko to worry about...all he had to do is skate a clean skate...just horrendous. I felt bad for Johnny W., but he's so young and he will be a world champion, just not this year. An amazing talent!!!

The Pairs and the Dance was already written on the wall. I'm surprised at the amount of injuries this year...just wacky.

The ladies will be more interesting. I'm a Sasha fan, but this child is a headcase. The amount of talent and she can never put it together. Shame!!! If Irina can keep it together and she will- it's her championship. Ms. Kwan on the other hand can make a strong showing...if the other gals fuck up...then she'll have a medal. We'll see how this goes down!!!

the cat

03-19-2005, 01:39 PM

I'm with you onewoman about Sasha Cohen. I can't believe she changed coaches again so soon before the Olympics. :( Robin Wagner coached Sarah Hughes to the 2000 Winter Olympic women's gold medal and I thought Wagner would be a fine coacj for Sasha. But atleast Sasha has a nice Himalayan cat. :) :cat: ;)

Congrats to the Russian Dance team of Tatiana Navka and Roman Kostomarov on winning their second straight World Championship Dance gold medal. :clap2: And to win the gold medal in their homelan of Russia must be a great thrill for them. :D They are a beautiful team. :) Da.

EternalFlame

03-20-2005, 07:56 AM

I saw Irina's performance and it was breathtaking. I'm so happy she won gold!

Suzi

03-20-2005, 03:18 PM

The gala things on tonight! :woohoo:

roisin

03-20-2005, 03:21 PM

:eek: really??!! ooh i love the gala! what time suzi?

Suzi

03-20-2005, 03:23 PM

5:00 in bout under an hour!!!

roisin

03-20-2005, 03:25 PM

awh you're joking! :sad:
my feckin dad is watching the everton-liverpool match on sky cos hes an everton fan, no way im getting the channel changed :bigcry:
and i wanted to see lambiel and all! *sulks*

Suzi

03-20-2005, 03:28 PM

oh craps forgot bout the game damn in all this excitement! hmmm i wonder if their are repeats!

the cat

03-20-2005, 04:20 PM

Congrats to Irina Slutskaya on winning the Wolrd Championship gold medal in her hometown of Moscow. :) I am so happy for Irina after all she's been through with her serious health problems and her mother's serious health problems. Irina had a sensational season. But I hope she like Evgeni Plushenko performs just enough in the fall and winter to stay sharp for the Olympics next year. It's imperative that both Irina and Evgeni take time off to let their bodies heal. Then they can both make strong runs at Olympic gold next year.

Eruwen

03-20-2005, 06:33 PM

I just saw the gala, it was awesome! *sigh* I just can't get enough of Stephane Lambiel's spins :hearts: Amazing! And of course skating to the music of King Arthur gives him extra points :yeah:

I was so mad at Eurosport though! They kept showing commercials like after almost every performance! It was so annoying! I even missed one or two because of it! :mad:

Suzi

03-20-2005, 06:38 PM

omg i saw it too and yeah the commercial breaks were craps but Lambiel :inlove: he is the king of spins and i really liked the pairs and dance people they were great!

roisin

03-20-2005, 06:49 PM

lambiel was just *jaw drops* i mean the spins! amazing! he was terribly cute as well ;) the pairs were really good too, i enjoyed that. how do they all have a routine prepared?! that confuzzles me

Eruwen

03-20-2005, 07:48 PM

Lambiel :worship:

how do they all have a routine prepared?! that confuzzles me I was actually wondering about that too :lol:

roisin

03-20-2005, 07:50 PM

ah great minds think alike eh? ;)

Suzi

03-20-2005, 08:37 PM

Well some pf the europeans have already had there routine done coz i saw some in the european championship gala, others i think prepare the day or morning before!

roisin

03-20-2005, 08:47 PM

jeez they must be quick learners then!

Suzi

03-20-2005, 08:52 PM

well i found this pic from the champs and it just makes me wanna :tears:

again what can say about the judges, I'm not so aware of the scoring system (I feel some of the skaters are not too, with the new one), but the commentaries from everywhere are that the way they treat Albena & Maxim is so bloody unfair(personally I can say in the last WCH in 04 it was nothing less but DISGRACEFUL) and unfortunately I dont think this will change...a brillaint dance doesnt seem to do it.
the olympic gold is already prepared for Navka/Kostomarov, the best Albena and Maxim could get is silver even if they skate the hell out of their shoes. of course the politics wont be able to hide the achievments of the bulgarians from the public, and I'm just proud of the way Albena and Maxim have been carying themselves and performed inspite of everything!!
Alby&Max :kiss: :worship:

graffiti

03-21-2005, 08:42 AM

again what can say about the judges, I'm not so aware of the scoring system (I feel some of the skaters are not too, with the new one), but the commentaries from everywhere are that the way they treat Albena & Maxim is so bloody unfair(personally I can say in the last WCH in 04 it was nothing less but DISGRACEFUL) and unfortunately I dont think this will change...a brillaint dance doesnt seem to do it.
the olympic gold is already prepared for Navka/Kostomarov, the best Albena and Maxim could get is silver even if they skate the hell out of their shoes. of course the politics wont be able to hide the achievments of the bulgarians from the public, and I'm just proud of the way Albena and Maxim have been carying themselves and performed inspite of everything!!
Alby&Max :kiss: :worship:

I didn't see free program in dancing but after watching Euro Champs this year, I kinda share your sentiments. Maybe not necessarily on the view that Albena/Maxim should have won gold (don't know if they were THAT good, although I've heard many people say that) but I do think that the judging in ice dancing is pretty fucked up :( I know I'm being biased and I'm no expert etc. etc. but Navka/Kostomarov don't seem ALL THAT to me. Besides, they annoy the living hell outta me :mad: :mad: :mad: Maybe it's just me but all their programs feel the same. It's like every time they step on the ice, you know EXACTLY what's about to come. BORING. And I herad commentators say several times that the judging in dancing is very conservative. There was this Lithuanian couple from few years ago and they were constantly robbed by the judges. It seemed like NOTHING they do would ever be satisfying enough :rolleyes: We alll know such tendency is a common thing in figure skating.
But I'm really glad there's this young American couple producing such good results already :D , the French and some others.
And i hope your prediction about Olympics WON'T come true!(though I fear it might :rolleyes: )

Aurora

03-21-2005, 09:37 AM

I ADORE Johnny Weir. You should read some of his interviews. He's so fantastic and snarky :DI've already started by web research on Mr Weir :devil:don't be afraid to share some urls or something here or send me some :)

Can someone explain me why Buttle ended before Weir? 'cause I watched their kürs again yesterday and I still don't see it (no good commentary either).

syd

03-21-2005, 09:51 AM

it's very sad for brian !!!!
he deseved a 1st or a 2nd place.

Wednesday Addams

03-21-2005, 11:44 AM

My take on the Worlds...

Guys:
Lambiel. His spins are very good. But then again, I already knew they were. Other than that, meh. His King Arthur routine was b-o-r-i-n-g. And, dude, where are your quadruples, eh? Oh, and I definitely like Joubert better than Lambiel. I'm kinda pissed at him for oafing. All he had to do was skate a clean one. :rolleyes: :mad:

Buttle. Does nothing for me. I like the american that got the bronze waaaaaaaaaay better. He's very pleasent to watch.

Weir. I spotted him from the SP. :devil: Jaja, agree with Tangy. He has class.

Evgeni PLUSHENKO - Ugh. Typical Russian classicist: does everything right and perfect but has zero personality, charisma, or interest. Blah. :zzz:
:ras:
You must be joking. Evgheni has more charisma and personality than all of the rest put together.

Girls:
Irina deserved it. She was awesome. :worship: I'm very happy for her!

Sasha. :mad: She always has such nice routines and is very graceful and expressive, but somehow manages to fuck up. Annoying! :( It was undersandable when she was younger, 'cos she was still unexperienced, but now it's just stupid.

Carolina Kosner. She's a nice change from the usual type, altho her routines have a tendency to be too melodramatic/sappy/classical.

Kwan. What happened there? She's not the type to lose it. Same thing as Carolina with her routines.

Pairs:
Totmianina/Marinin. Nice and well skated but boring. Boring music and boring interpretation. Sorry. :shrug: But of course they weren't half as boring as Petrova/Tikhonov. Pffffffff.....

Dance:
Navka/Kostomarov. Smbd was complaining abt the fact that there are too many routines skated on Tosca, Carmen, etc.... True, but I don't care what music U skate on, if the routine is good and well performed then it's no problem. And you can't NOT like it.
Now, their performance was..... good, but it lacked something. Or, rather it had too much of something. Movement. Arms and legs everywhere, and not very graceful, either. The transitions were too sudden, required a lot of work and that didn't look pretty. When U have a classical piece like Tosca you don't throw in 6734538429386753849 complicated lifts and transitions. :rolleyes: It makes the audience miss the message and the feeling.
And why is Navka smiling ALL the time? :confused: That was supposed to be a DRAMATIC routine.

Belvin/Agosto. I haven't followed them much since they came on the scene. I think they've been improving, tho and that's nice to see.

Grushina/Goncharov. I like them, but they are one of those pairs that is forever doomed to be on the third/fourth place. Just like Denkova/Staviski who are just :worship: :worship: :worship: And like that pair from Ukraine U guys were talking abt (can't remember their names right now, but they were great).

Sandra

03-22-2005, 09:08 AM

I didn't see anything coz I was in Egypt,but thinkin' of brian makes me cry!!!!!:bigcry:

Wednesday Addams

03-22-2005, 02:03 PM

I didn't see anything coz I was in Egypt,but thinkin' of brian makes me cry!!!!!:bigcry:
It was his own fault..... Sorry. :hug: He could/should have won a medal easy.

u missed the 2 brilliant ones lambiel did then? ;)
U mean the ones he missed in the LP? They were :worship:, indeed. :p ;)

roisin

03-22-2005, 05:17 PM

nope he ones he aced during the king arthur thing.
they were :worship: indeed.

Wednesday Addams

03-22-2005, 05:19 PM

nope he ones he aced during the king arthur thing.
they were :worship: indeed.
Huh? Didn't see any. Only triples. Really. The rest he missed.

roisin

03-22-2005, 05:23 PM

no way, he def got 2 quads, sure the commentators were having orgasms over them

Wednesday Addams

03-22-2005, 05:33 PM

Here it was just the opposite..... :scratch: :shrug:

Sandra

03-22-2005, 05:37 PM

Maybe we should get the program from the internet to see who is right..

Daniel

03-22-2005, 11:36 PM

Michelle :sad: :bigcry:

graffiti

03-23-2005, 11:42 AM

no way, he def got 2 quads, sure the commentators were having orgasms over them

Yes, I can confirm that :)

Leo

03-23-2005, 12:45 PM

BAN. The Jeffy is great. Sadly, that performance was not his best... but nobody elses was either, so that is why he medalled.

:hearts: Yay, finally someone sticks up for Jeffrey. He falls on jumps, yes, but his choreography is fantastic and interesting. No one else's long programs compell me like his. His difficult transitions, fun spins, intricate footwork, and overall artistry are yummy! I wonder if he would have had a chance to win the Gold if he skated as cleanly as he did at Canadians without the two major falls?

However, I was frustrated by ESPN's neglect of Buttle. The commentators barely gave him any credit or recognition. He was never considered by any of them as a major contender. And during the Swiss anthem, the camera zoomed in on Lambiel of course and Lysacek (American bias much?) and pretended that Buttle didn't exist. Hello, silver medalist here. And the 2006 Olympics Champ. :D

I ADORE Johnny Weir. You should read some of his interviews. He's so fantastic and snarky :D

Indeed. Sometimes when he's being interviewed by our stupid Christine Brennan or whatever her name is, his comments shock her into momentary silence. He's a funny one with a bit of attitude and cockiness and I like that. I also like how he called himself a true champion after this week at Worlds. Boy, if only all 4th place finishers could be considered champions. But yeah, I like his smooth style and I hope he can recover quickly from this foot injury next season.

My take on the Worlds...

Guys:
Lambiel. And, dude, where are your quadruples, eh?

He performed one in the SP and two in the LP. Might want to watch again, yeah?

Joubert is the *only* one who's not prissy. No wonder he's popular. :lol:

Awww, but they're more fun when they're prissy. Joubert has no interestinng style or flair. He's only a good jumper, and he couldn't even do that right in his LP.

No, certainly not as bad as Paul Hamm, the 12 year old boy. I thought Lambiel sounded cute speaking English. He probably sounds "better" in his native tongue.

I'm with you onewoman about Sasha Cohen. I can't believe she changed coaches again so soon before the Olympics. :( Robin Wagner coached Sarah Hughes to the 2000 Winter Olympic women's gold medal and I thought Wagner would be a fine coacj for Sasha. But atleast Sasha has a nice Himalayan cat. :) :cat: ;)

Actually I think it was the other way around. Wagner dumped Cohen because she doesn't work hard enough. Supposedly.

Leo

03-23-2005, 01:24 PM

So I finished all of my tapes in two days. Yay me. Unfortunately I had never seen Lambiel before this week because I missed him last year at Worlds and this year at Europeans (plus he's almost always injured and out of competition). But his spins are :eek: :worship:. Perhaps the most breathtaking sight of my life besides the Grand Canyon? :D And definitely backed it up with the jumps. Will have to download some more of his programs. I can't believe he's already a 5-time Swiss champ at the age of 19.

Buttle's technical mishaps in the LP were disappointing but otherwise I enjoyed it immensely and the end result was sweet. Great year for him and hopefully next season will be even better.

Lysacek is very boring to me. He seems like a really nice guy by I'm not compelled. And I'm bitter that he finished ahead of Weir.

Not the biggest fan of Joubert but it's hard not to feel :sad: for him after that performance. I think Plushenko pulling out definitely hurt him. That competition and pressure from Evgeni would have given him the drive he needed to at least make the podium, although I never thought he would win Gold. Perhaps the withdrawal threw off all the skaters because they all seemed nervous and made sloppy mistakes.

Fucking ESPN never showed any of Li or Suguri, who both placed 5th, I believe. Instead we got extended coverage throughout the week of the likes of Jenny Kirk, Orscher and Lucash, Gregory and Pethukov, Inoue and Baldwin Jr. and all those interesting American skaters who did so well. :rolleyes: I love Fumei and I was happy with how she did here after majorly sucking throughout the season.

My tape crapped out right before Ando's and Slutskaya's LP's. But I guess there's no reason to watch Ando if she's not doing the quad. :lol: Girl needs work. And thankfully they replayed Slutskaya's memorable moment in the recap bit. I cried. :D I didn't used to like Irina much but I was won over immediately the first time I saw her LP in the Cup of China event last fall. Great choreography skated to beautiful music.

As for the other women, I was impressed by Kostner because I knew she could skate fast and nail some difficult elements (and then fuck up the rest) but this week she was solid enough throughout to hold on to 3rd and she never faltered greatly. Arakawa falling from 1st last year to 9th this year was disappointing but now that she's no longer the reigning World champion, she should have less pressure this following season and hopefully she'll be able to skate freely and passionately again. Ando definitely has great jumps but nothing else. She's still young and has time to work on the artistic elements but I don't see her ever mastering the program components part like her rivals. And Kwan, well she got was she deserved. If she wanted to contend for this title, she should have tried out the new system long before now. Most of her spins, footwork, and jumps, especially, are so basic and simple that it's no wonder why she only placed 4th here. She said it herself; if she's going to challenge Slutskaya and Cohen for an Olympic Gold next year, she's going to need to incorporate more Level 3 stuff.

I prefer Chinese pair skating to Russian pair skating by a long way, but still nice to see the comeback on Tatiana Totmianina (fantastic name or what?!) and Marinin. Especially considering her new injuries and his insecurities. It will be nice to see them go up against a healthy Shen and Zhao next season. What I couldn't really understand was how Zhang and Zhang finished ahead of Pang and Tong when it seemed like the former had a lot more bobbles and mistakes. Well, I'm not a judge so what do I know?

Speaking of judging, I've come to love the new system as it seems more fair and understandable to me with the base values for every element, etc. I like how the ISU website allows you to look at each of the judge's marks on each performance to see how the final scores were made. Eliminates most of my confusion. Except in Ice Dance, because I'm lost in that. Most of the performances look the same to me. I'm totally unable to detect the differences between the top five ice dancing teams (the Russians, Americans, Ukrainians, French, and Bulgarians), but they seem to know what they're doing. Belbin and Agosto and Dhenkova and Staviski (pretty sure I mispelled) are the most interesting to me but gotta love Navka and Kostomarov too because they live in Montclair, NJ, near my hometown.

Leo

03-23-2005, 01:27 PM

Yes, I can confirm that :)

Yes, he definitely nailed two quads but singled his triple axel right at the start of the program and another triple jump near the end.

Wednesday Addams

03-23-2005, 02:34 PM

He performed one in the SP and two in the LP. Might want to watch again, yeah?

I did. And yes, he landed two quads. Still doesn't change my overall oppinion of him. Sorry. :shrug:

Leo

03-23-2005, 03:23 PM

I did. And yes, he landed two quads. Still doesn't change my overall oppinion of him. Sorry. :shrug:

That's fine, I just wanted to make sure you knew that he did complete two quads.

Dushenka

03-24-2005, 10:39 AM

For all you new Stéphane Lambiel fans. Here's his Official Website (english/french/german): www.stephanelambiel.ch (http://www.stephanelambiel.ch)

smiles,
Dushenka

Devotee

03-25-2005, 05:00 AM

:ras:
You must be joking. Evgheni has more charisma and personality than all of the rest put together.

I second your sentiment!
:bowdown:

Eruwen

03-25-2005, 01:59 PM

For all you new Stéphane Lambiel fans. Here's his Official Website (english/french/german): www.stephanelambiel.ch (http://www.stephanelambiel.ch)

smiles,
Dushenka I checked it out last week, it's a great website! Also saw you pics (asuming your the same Dushenka ;) ), they're great! :yeah:

darika

03-26-2005, 08:01 PM

[QUOTE]You must be joking. Evgheni has more charisma and personality than all of the rest put together.

I totally agree. He's the best skater of our time :worship: :worship: :worship:

Buttle. Does nothing for me. I like the american that got the bronze waaaaaaaaaay better. He's very pleasent to watch.

I saw Jeffrey for the first time at Skate Canada two years ago. He's just not a jumper, but he is a super artist :worship:

Weir. I spotted him from the SP. :devil: Jaja, agree with Tangy. He has class.

I think Johnny should have been born as a woman. He is just like the breath of the air. so fragile and gentle. I was impressed

Irina deserved it. She was awesome. :worship: I'm very happy for her!

Sasha. :mad: She always has such nice routines and is very graceful and expressive, but somehow manages to fuck up. Annoying! :( It was undersandable when she was younger, 'cos she was still unexperienced, but now it's just stupid.

I can not say better what i think. Can i shake your hand, Wednesday Adams? :hatoff:

Suzi

03-26-2005, 09:55 PM

I think Johnny should have been born as a woman. He is just like the breath of the air. so fragile and gentle. I was impressed

omg that is so true!

Daniel

09-21-2005, 07:09 AM

Michelle Kwan to compete in St. Paul

The 2005 Campbell’s International Figure Skating Classic will take place Oct. 8, 2005, in St. Paul, Minn., kicking off the 2005-2006 Olympic-season with $200,000 up for grabs among the world’s top figure skaters. Confirmed to compete at the event, which will feature an international field of ladies singles and men’s singles, are five-time World and nine-time U.S. champion Michelle Kwan and two-time World silver medalist Sasha Cohen.

The Campbell’s Classic returns to St. Paul’s Xcel Energy Center after a successful event in 2004, during which Kwan took the $50,000 first-place prize for the ladies and 2002 Olympic bronze medalist Timothy Goebel won it for the men. Sanctioned by the International Skating Union (ISU), the Campbell’s Classic is the first Olympic-eligible figure skating competition for the 2005-2006 Olympic-season and will feature the new ISU judging system.

The one-day competition will be held at the Xcel Center at 7:30 p.m. Each athlete will perform one free skate, many of which will mark the debut of their Olympic-season program for the first time. Led by Kwan and Cohen, the remaining skaters will be announced as the event nears.

The $200,000 prize money marks an investment by U.S. Figure Skating to increase the level of competition and intensity at the invitational event. The following prize money will be allotted to the top six ladies and the top six men:_First Place $50,000_Second Place $25,000_Third Place $15,000_Fourth Place $ 5,000_Fifth Place $ 3,000_Sixth Place $ 2,000

Tickets for the Campbell’s Classic go on sale Monday, Aug. 15 at 10 a.m., and are available at the Xcel Energy Center Box Office, at all Ticketmaster locations, through charge by phone at (651) 989-5151 or online at www.ticketmaster.com. Reserved seats will be priced at $60, $46.75, $31.75 and $21.75. Group discounts are available, call (651) 312-3486 for more information. The event will be nationally broadcast by ABC Sports at a later date.

Be sure to visit U.S. Figure Skating On-line – www.usfigureskating.org - for the latest news and information about this event.

U.S. Figure Skating is the national governing body for the sport of figure skating in the United States as recognized by the United States Olympic Committee and the International Skating Union. U.S. Figure Skating is comprised of over 585 member clubs representing more than 171,000 members. U.S. Figure Skating is charged with the development of the sport on all levels within the United States, including athletes, officials, sanctioning of events and exhibitions, and establishing the rules and guidelines by which the sport is governed.

Sandra

11-03-2005, 07:21 PM

I cannot wait for the EC :bounce: i am so excited tho Brian aint skating too good :sad: Only 3rd in Skate America :bigcry: Does anyone know when the EC start?

Federerhingis

11-04-2005, 12:43 AM

I cannot wait for the EC :bounce: i am so excited tho Brian aint skating too good :sad: Only 3rd in Skate America :bigcry: Does anyone know when the EC start?

Boitano? He's still skating I thought he retired from professional events?

Fee

11-04-2005, 12:52 AM

wow, I'd forgotten about this thread, but good to see it back.

Chloe le Bopper

11-04-2005, 03:39 AM

Boitano? He's still skating I thought he retired from professional events?
lol

Joubert ;)

Chloe le Bopper

11-04-2005, 03:42 AM

Pluschenko excites me about as much as a wet rag. Arm flailing does not an artist make. That said, he probably is the best skater in the world when he's flawless. But Yagudin was better :)