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When they say they caught 1400 people without a TV license, how many of those people didn't have a license because they didn't have a TV?

Or in other words is this the number of people they sent nasty letters, or the number of people that were actually fined for using a TV without a license?

When they say they caught 1400 people without a TV license, how many of those people didn't have a license because they didn't have a TV?
Or in other words is this the number of people they sent nasty letters, or the number of people that were actually fined for using a TV without a license?DuncanB

Although now with subscription TV it is impossible not to be on their list, you do not have to let the licence people in your house (unless they have a warrant, which they will not on the first visit). Just go out and buy one when they have gone, and on their next visit you will have one to show them. I would not usually advocate breaking the law, but they waste money on £million+ contracts for presenters who's jobs could be equally well done for a fraction of the cost. It is the programme makers that deserve the money

Although now with subscription TV it is impossible not to be on their list, you do not have to let the licence people in your house (unless they have a warrant, which they will not on the first visit). Just go out and buy one when they have gone, and on their next visit you will have one to show them. I would not usually advocate breaking the law, but they waste money on £million+ contracts for presenters who's jobs could be equally well done for a fraction of the cost. It is the programme makers that deserve the moneyzimmer, Wolvecote.

1,400, isn't exactly thousands, it is in fact a thousand and a half...and given the population of Oxfordshire (635,000 according to the OCC website) this represents 0.22% of the population...even as a percentage of households (258,900) this is only 0.54%...bit of a low news week obviously.......

1,400, isn't exactly thousands, it is in fact a thousand and a half...and given the population of Oxfordshire (635,000 according to the OCC website) this represents 0.22% of the population...even as a percentage of households (258,900) this is only 0.54%...bit of a low news week obviously.......rayroad

you are only required to license yourself if you watch or record live television transmissions as they are being broadcast.

the very few things the bbc puts out that are not laced with one putrid agenda or another are virtually always available on the iPlayer.

others are claiming that "paying bbc license is treason", though I am not a lawyer and doubt that any governmental policy enforcement bodies focusing on the letter of the legislation would abide by the higher principles of the law, even if their claims were true.

you are only required to license yourself if you watch or record live television transmissions as they are being broadcast.
the very few things the bbc puts out that are not laced with one putrid agenda or another are virtually always available on the iPlayer.
others are claiming that "paying bbc license is treason", though I am not a lawyer and doubt that any governmental policy enforcement bodies focusing on the letter of the legislation would abide by the higher principles of the law, even if their claims were true.Alfie Nokes

That is why alfie, your Tivo box will not allow you to record delayed or catch up tv shows as a way around the law. But what next, are they going to be on the 06.59 to Paddington nicking all those watching BBC News on their Iphones?

That is why alfie, your Tivo box will not allow you to record delayed or catch up tv shows as a way around the law. But what next, are they going to be on the 06.59 to Paddington nicking all those watching BBC News on their Iphones?zimmer, Wolvecote.

I notice the warning adverts they used to show have gone, the ones which used to threaten you with something like..."We know where you live, and if you don't pay up we will come and getcha...you evil ******* ".
I suppose we all have to pay for sh*te like Eastenders, whether we watch it or not.

I notice the warning adverts they used to show have gone, the ones which used to threaten you with something like..."We know where you live, and if you don't pay up we will come and getcha...you evil ******* ".
I suppose we all have to pay for sh*te like Eastenders, whether we watch it or not.livid99

amber leaf wrote:
maybe theses people dont want anything to do with the bbcs pedophile ring and government controlled media i dont pay it and i never intend to ether .......

If you have a TV and you don't pay your license, your avoidance means people like me have to pay even more for carp like "Saints & Scroungers".

[quote][p][bold]amber leaf[/bold] wrote:
maybe theses people dont want anything to do with the bbcs pedophile ring and government controlled media i dont pay it and i never intend to ether .......[/p][/quote]If you have a TV and you don't pay your license, your avoidance means people like me have to pay even more for carp like "Saints & Scroungers".Feelingsmatter

yes i do have a tv thanks feelingsmatter but i dont use it for live tv and defiantly not to watch all the rubbish the bbc comes out with !!! and im not going to pay for a service i don't receive but if u are happy in supporting pedophiles and corruption thats up to u ? but some people are fed up to the back teeth of this government propaganda rubbish and sounds to me that u are watching far to much of it because how do u come to the conclusion that people like u pay for people like me ?

yes i do have a tv thanks feelingsmatter but i dont use it for live tv and defiantly not to watch all the rubbish the bbc comes out with !!! and im not going to pay for a service i don't receive but if u are happy in supporting pedophiles and corruption thats up to u ? but some people are fed up to the back teeth of this government propaganda rubbish and sounds to me that u are watching far to much of it because how do u come to the conclusion that people like u pay for people like me ?amber leaf

Oddly enough, a polite TV Licensing Officer called at my house yesterday. I don't have a TV and told him that I am innocent until proven guilty, so I don't need to let him enter my house, fill in forms or explain my position to anyone. I'm reading newspaper websites for free, later I may watch something on Youtube for free - why would I pay £140 or whatever to pay off that twit who resigned from the BBC after 3 weeks and took half a million pounds with him? I'd rather listen to the radio for nothing!

Oddly enough, a polite TV Licensing Officer called at my house yesterday. I don't have a TV and told him that I am innocent until proven guilty, so I don't need to let him enter my house, fill in forms or explain my position to anyone. I'm reading newspaper websites for free, later I may watch something on Youtube for free - why would I pay £140 or whatever to pay off that twit who resigned from the BBC after 3 weeks and took half a million pounds with him? I'd rather listen to the radio for nothing!Milkbutnosugarplease

I have no TV license. no TV either though. There's never anything live online worth watching.

It's all easy to get around: Simply don't admit to having a TV. You could also point out that you were duped into funding Jimmy Savile for years.

I have no TV license. no TV either though. There's never anything live online worth watching.
It's all easy to get around: Simply don't admit to having a TV. You could also point out that you were duped into funding Jimmy Savile for years.Geoff Roberts

I wonder how much the TV licensing 'industry' costs us as taxpayers, and whether it wouldn't be better to decriminalise licensing, and include the licence fee in housing benefits payments. The vast majority of non-payers are people on benefits, almost all single mothers, and the amount they can be fined is a drop in the ocean of enormous costs incurred by the vast TV Licensing bureaucracy (which ably uses our money to promote its own continued existence). Just a thought...

I wonder how much the TV licensing 'industry' costs us as taxpayers, and whether it wouldn't be better to decriminalise licensing, and include the licence fee in housing benefits payments. The vast majority of non-payers are people on benefits, almost all single mothers, and the amount they can be fined is a drop in the ocean of enormous costs incurred by the vast TV Licensing bureaucracy (which ably uses our money to promote its own continued existence). Just a thought...Man on the Green

amber leaf wrote:
yes i do have a tv thanks feelingsmatter but i dont use it for live tv and defiantly not to watch all the rubbish the bbc comes out with !!! and im not going to pay for a service i don't receive but if u are happy in supporting pedophiles and corruption thats up to u ? but some people are fed up to the back teeth of this government propaganda rubbish and sounds to me that u are watching far to much of it because how do u come to the conclusion that people like u pay for people like me ?

Oh please calm down. To accuse me of supporting paedophiles is vile. Your comment stated that you had a TV, and had no intention of paying the license fee, NOT that you didn't watch live TV on it, so perhaps you should show a little more clarity in your comments before you start throwing the insults around.

[quote][p][bold]amber leaf[/bold] wrote:
yes i do have a tv thanks feelingsmatter but i dont use it for live tv and defiantly not to watch all the rubbish the bbc comes out with !!! and im not going to pay for a service i don't receive but if u are happy in supporting pedophiles and corruption thats up to u ? but some people are fed up to the back teeth of this government propaganda rubbish and sounds to me that u are watching far to much of it because how do u come to the conclusion that people like u pay for people like me ?[/p][/quote]Oh please calm down. To accuse me of supporting paedophiles is vile. Your comment stated that you had a TV, and had no intention of paying the license fee, NOT that you didn't watch live TV on it, so perhaps you should show a little more clarity in your comments before you start throwing the insults around.Feelingsmatter

The 'detection' of 'licence evaders' is outsourced to Capita. They send horrid little men around who try crafty things to catch you out. Just say nothing and close the door (assuming they can't see a TV from the front of the house). Their scaremongering letters are pretty awful too. If you wait long enough the letters go through a cycle and you get the same letter again.

The 'detection' of 'licence evaders' is outsourced to Capita. They send horrid little men around who try crafty things to catch you out. Just say nothing and close the door (assuming they can't see a TV from the front of the house). Their scaremongering letters are pretty awful too. If you wait long enough the letters go through a cycle and you get the same letter again.Slimster

Slimster wrote:
The 'detection' of 'licence evaders' is outsourced to Capita. They send horrid little men around who try crafty things to catch you out. Just say nothing and close the door (assuming they can't see a TV from the front of the house). Their scaremongering letters are pretty awful too. If you wait long enough the letters go through a cycle and you get the same letter again.

So basically, you're advocating theft.

[quote][p][bold]Slimster[/bold] wrote:
The 'detection' of 'licence evaders' is outsourced to Capita. They send horrid little men around who try crafty things to catch you out. Just say nothing and close the door (assuming they can't see a TV from the front of the house). Their scaremongering letters are pretty awful too. If you wait long enough the letters go through a cycle and you get the same letter again.[/p][/quote]So basically, you're advocating theft.Feelingsmatter

Well, I get a letter from TV Licensing every month. They helpfully put their name on the back so I can file it directly into my blue wheely bin. And yes, Capita are contractors paid by the BBC to pursue licence evaders. One officer, a woman, was nasty in the past but the others have been very gentle in their approach. They have no powers to enter or search a house unless you invite them in.

Well, I get a letter from TV Licensing every month. They helpfully put their name on the back so I can file it directly into my blue wheely bin. And yes, Capita are contractors paid by the BBC to pursue licence evaders. One officer, a woman, was nasty in the past but the others have been very gentle in their approach. They have no powers to enter or search a house unless you invite them in.Milkbutnosugarplease

Slimster wrote:
The 'detection' of 'licence evaders' is outsourced to Capita. They send horrid little men around who try crafty things to catch you out. Just say nothing and close the door (assuming they can't see a TV from the front of the house). Their scaremongering letters are pretty awful too. If you wait long enough the letters go through a cycle and you get the same letter again.

Well one day you will be caught, I think it would be a lot easier to pay up; it only works out at £3 a week

[quote][p][bold]Slimster[/bold] wrote:
The 'detection' of 'licence evaders' is outsourced to Capita. They send horrid little men around who try crafty things to catch you out. Just say nothing and close the door (assuming they can't see a TV from the front of the house). Their scaremongering letters are pretty awful too. If you wait long enough the letters go through a cycle and you get the same letter again.[/p][/quote]Well one day you will be caught, I think it would be a lot easier to pay up; it only works out at £3 a weekPikey-Biker