"Appearing on the Jim Rome Show Wednesday, free agent Derrick Ward mentioned the Browns, Texans, and Cardinals as potential landing spots.Ward offers rare three-down ability, fresh legs, and is coming off a season in which he averaged 5.6 YPC. All three clubs have enough cap room to meet Ward's $4M-per-year asking price."

Ziner wrote:I like Ward, I think he would fit in nicely with JLew if we keep him and Harrison.

I like him too, sort of out of the Chester Taylor mode and coming from the same situation where there was a timeshare before the move. I'd be happy with a 3-headed monster of Ward (as the feature), Lewis, and Harrison in an Ahmad Bradshaw type role, minus the jail time.

Ziner wrote:I like Ward, I think he would fit in nicely with JLew if we keep him and Harrison.

I like him too, sort of out of the Chester Taylor mode and coming from the same situation where there was a timeshare before the move. I'd be happy with a 3-headed monster of Ward (as the feature), Lewis, and Harrison in an Ahmad Bradshaw type role, minus the jail time.

If they can justify keeping those three in terms of the cap as they might have to ask 8 ball to restructure and they can keep all happy as far as carries. I foresee 8 ball (Lewis) in a Jerome Bettis type role in Bettis' last year or two.

All three clubs have enough cap room to meet Ward's $4M-per-year asking price."

Decent player, three suitors, reasonable asking price... y'all know where this is going, and it's not in the $4M a year ballpark.

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Wouldn't mind the deal if at the right price. Not a must but would help us eliminate an area to even look at for the draft.

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i love Derrick Ward. did work for my fantasy team. he's a really good back and will start here and can get 1000+ yards. i really hope we get him

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js2310 wrote:Ward is the perfect signing only if we restructure or release Jamal Lewis. We can't have both of the guys on the team can we?

I'd prefer not to draft a running back and stick to fixing our defense this off season. I want a top 10 defense for once.

The only running back I want is Beanie and we won't be their in the 2nd probably.

Ward is said to be looking for a contract in the $4 mil per year range which is very doable and almost a bargain for a back of his caliber. If Eight Ball doesn't want to restructure and you know you can sign Ward send Eight Ball packing then. You can always pick up a Cedric Benson type during the season.

js2310 wrote:Ward is the perfect signing only if we restructure or release Jamal Lewis. We can't have both of the guys on the team can we?

I'd prefer not to draft a running back and stick to fixing our defense this off season. I want a top 10 defense for once.

The only running back I want is Beanie and we won't be their in the 2nd probably.

Ward is said to be looking for a contract in the $4 mil per year range which is very doable and almost a bargain for a back of his caliber. If Eight Ball doesn't want to restructure and you know you can sign Ward send Eight Ball packing then. You can always pick up a Cedric Benson tyep during the season.

Benson's contract will be more than what Lewis is getting paid now. He probably thinks he had a great year and wants top 5 money. I think Cincinnati will resign which I am happy with. I know he destroyed us last year but who couldn't at the end of the year. We had nothing going the last 6 games of the years.

I would love to cut Lewis for Ward and have Ward and Harrison sharing carries. Draft a running back in 2010 draft. The only one that intrigues me is Beanie because of his size and speed but he will be gone by the time we pick in the 2nd round.

js2310 wrote:Ward is the perfect signing only if we restructure or release Jamal Lewis. We can't have both of the guys on the team can we?

I'd prefer not to draft a running back and stick to fixing our defense this off season. I want a top 10 defense for once.

The only running back I want is Beanie and we won't be their in the 2nd probably.

Ward is said to be looking for a contract in the $4 mil per year range which is very doable and almost a bargain for a back of his caliber. If Eight Ball doesn't want to restructure and you know you can sign Ward send Eight Ball packing then. You can always pick up a Cedric Benson tyep during the season.

Benson's contract will be more than what Lewis is getting paid now. He probably thinks he had a great year and wants top 5 money. I think Cincinnati will resign which I am happy with. I know he destroyed us last year but who couldn't at the end of the year. We had nothing going the last 6 games of the years.

Try reading that again. I said you can always pick up a Cedric Benson type during the season like Cincy did in week 9 never said I want or think Cedric Benson should be picked up or speculated anything about what he will make this year.

js2310 wrote:Ward is the perfect signing only if we restructure or release Jamal Lewis. We can't have both of the guys on the team can we?

I'd prefer not to draft a running back and stick to fixing our defense this off season. I want a top 10 defense for once.

The only running back I want is Beanie and we won't be their in the 2nd probably.

Ward is said to be looking for a contract in the $4 mil per year range which is very doable and almost a bargain for a back of his caliber. If Eight Ball doesn't want to restructure and you know you can sign Ward send Eight Ball packing then. You can always pick up a Cedric Benson tyep during the season.

Benson's contract will be more than what Lewis is getting paid now. He probably thinks he had a great year and wants top 5 money. I think Cincinnati will resign which I am happy with. I know he destroyed us last year but who couldn't at the end of the year. We had nothing going the last 6 games of the years.

Try reading that again. I said you can always pick up a Cedric Benson type during the season like Cincy did in week 9 never said I want or think Cedric Benson should be picked up or speculated anything about what he will make this year.

Sorry I didn't know what work tyep was so I was assuming I thought you said "You can always pick up a Cedric Benson during the season.

js2310 wrote:Ward is the perfect signing only if we restructure or release Jamal Lewis. We can't have both of the guys on the team can we?

I'd prefer not to draft a running back and stick to fixing our defense this off season. I want a top 10 defense for once.

The only running back I want is Beanie and we won't be their in the 2nd probably.

Ward is said to be looking for a contract in the $4 mil per year range which is very doable and almost a bargain for a back of his caliber. If Eight Ball doesn't want to restructure and you know you can sign Ward send Eight Ball packing then. You can always pick up a Cedric Benson tyep during the season.

Benson's contract will be more than what Lewis is getting paid now. He probably thinks he had a great year and wants top 5 money. I think Cincinnati will resign which I am happy with. I know he destroyed us last year but who couldn't at the end of the year. We had nothing going the last 6 games of the years.

Try reading that again. I said you can always pick up a Cedric Benson type during the season like Cincy did in week 9 never said I want or think Cedric Benson should be picked up or speculated anything about what he will make this year.

Sorry I didn't know what work tyep was so I was assuming I thought you said "You can always pick up a Cedric Benson during the season.

That is what I said I'm just trying to figure out why you think what Benson gets this year has anything to do with what Cincy had to give up in $$$ and talent to get him during the season last year hence my point that you can always pick up a Benson type during the season if J Lewis refuses to reconfigure his contract and is let go.

js2310 wrote:Ward is the perfect signing only if we restructure or release Jamal Lewis. We can't have both of the guys on the team can we?

I'd prefer not to draft a running back and stick to fixing our defense this off season. I want a top 10 defense for once.

The only running back I want is Beanie and we won't be their in the 2nd probably.

Ward is said to be looking for a contract in the $4 mil per year range which is very doable and almost a bargain for a back of his caliber. If Eight Ball doesn't want to restructure and you know you can sign Ward send Eight Ball packing then. You can always pick up a Cedric Benson tyep during the season.

Benson's contract will be more than what Lewis is getting paid now. He probably thinks he had a great year and wants top 5 money. I think Cincinnati will resign which I am happy with. I know he destroyed us last year but who couldn't at the end of the year. We had nothing going the last 6 games of the years.

Try reading that again. I said you can always pick up a Cedric Benson type during the season like Cincy did in week 9 never said I want or think Cedric Benson should be picked up or speculated anything about what he will make this year.

Sorry I didn't know what work tyep was so I was assuming I thought you said "You can always pick up a Cedric Benson during the season.

That is what I said I'm just trying to figure out why you think what Benson gets this year has anything to do with what Cincy had to give up in $$$ and talent to get him during the season last year hence my point that you can always pick up a Benson type during the season if J Lewis refuses to reconfigure his contract and is let go.

Well they gave up no talent because he was dropped and money probably nothing. I do agree we could pick up someone like that but I can't think of a running back on the fence like Benson was last year.

js2310 wrote:Ward is the perfect signing only if we restructure or release Jamal Lewis. We can't have both of the guys on the team can we?

I'd prefer not to draft a running back and stick to fixing our defense this off season. I want a top 10 defense for once.

The only running back I want is Beanie and we won't be their in the 2nd probably.

Ward is said to be looking for a contract in the $4 mil per year range which is very doable and almost a bargain for a back of his caliber. If Eight Ball doesn't want to restructure and you know you can sign Ward send Eight Ball packing then. You can always pick up a Cedric Benson tyep during the season.

Benson's contract will be more than what Lewis is getting paid now. He probably thinks he had a great year and wants top 5 money. I think Cincinnati will resign which I am happy with. I know he destroyed us last year but who couldn't at the end of the year. We had nothing going the last 6 games of the years.

Try reading that again. I said you can always pick up a Cedric Benson type during the season like Cincy did in week 9 never said I want or think Cedric Benson should be picked up or speculated anything about what he will make this year.

Sorry I didn't know what work tyep was so I was assuming I thought you said "You can always pick up a Cedric Benson during the season.

That is what I said I'm just trying to figure out why you think what Benson gets this year has anything to do with what Cincy had to give up in $$$ and talent to get him during the season last year hence my point that you can always pick up a Benson type during the season if J Lewis refuses to reconfigure his contract and is let go.

Well they gave up no talent because he was dropped and money probably nothing. I do agree we could pick up someone like that but I can't think of a running back on the fence like Benson was last year.

There will be a few to choose from as they are always some-Tatum Bell's, Mwelde Moore's and Rudi Johnson's available. We're not talking stud RB's anymore just someone to fill a role and give a breather to a Ward and a Harrison. It wouldn't cost much during the season if the need were to arise and J. Lew was no longer on the team and that's a good thing with our current cap situation.

Yeah true I do agree. One guy that comes to mind is a Cincinnati guy. Chris Perry might get cut this year. He had a terrible year with fumbles but he does have talent and could come for about nothing. I wouldn't mind considering that if we need a running back later in the season or something. He is just the first person that came to mind, not someone I am saying we should sign so don't be cramming down my throat about how bad of a pickup he would be.

js2310 wrote:Yeah true I do agree. One guy that comes to mind is a Cincinnati guy. Chris Perry might get cut this year. He had a terrible year with fumbles but he does have talent and could come for about nothing. I wouldn't mind considering that if we need a running back later in the season or something. He is just the first person that came to mind, not someone I am saying we should sign so don't be cramming down my throat about how bad of a pickup he would be.

Understand that as I said earlier every year is a different situation so last year's Benson situation certainly is not this years nor would be the case for Chris Perry. I will say at least Benson showed potential in his career as did Tatum Bell so not sure Perry is in the same category but maybe Perry and say a Michael Bush who were both good in college but never got a full opportunity in the NFL to this point. Michael Bush I would be more interested in and with the Raiders you never know what could happen.

js2310 wrote:Yeah true I do agree. One guy that comes to mind is a Cincinnati guy. Chris Perry might get cut this year. He had a terrible year with fumbles but he does have talent and could come for about nothing. I wouldn't mind considering that if we need a running back later in the season or something. He is just the first person that came to mind, not someone I am saying we should sign so don't be cramming down my throat about how bad of a pickup he would be.

Understand that as I said earlier every year is a different situation so last year's Benson situation certainly is not this years nor would be the case for Chris Perry. I will say at least Benson showed potential in his career as did Tatum Bell so not sure Perry is in the same category but maybe Perry and say a Michael Bush who were both good in college but never got a full opportunity in the NFL to this point. Michael Bush I would be more interested in and with the Raiders you never know what could happen.

They would be retarded to release him. He showed promise this year and I think he will split carries with McFadden this year.

It is way too early to try and pick who will be released and the next Cedric Benson. I think the Bengals got lucky with him and I hope they do resign him to a large deal. I can see him being a bust next year.

js2310 wrote:Yeah true I do agree. One guy that comes to mind is a Cincinnati guy. Chris Perry might get cut this year. He had a terrible year with fumbles but he does have talent and could come for about nothing. I wouldn't mind considering that if we need a running back later in the season or something. He is just the first person that came to mind, not someone I am saying we should sign so don't be cramming down my throat about how bad of a pickup he would be.

Understand that as I said earlier every year is a different situation so last year's Benson situation certainly is not this years nor would be the case for Chris Perry. I will say at least Benson showed potential in his career as did Tatum Bell so not sure Perry is in the same category but maybe Perry and say a Michael Bush who were both good in college but never got a full opportunity in the NFL to this point. Michael Bush I would be more interested in and with the Raiders you never know what could happen.

They would be retarded to release him. He showed promise this year and I think he will split carries with McFadden this year.

It is way too early to try and pick who will be released and the next Cedric Benson. I think the Bengals got lucky with him and I hope they do resign him to a large deal. I can see him being a bust next year.

Showed promise. Really.

104 carries, 269 yards for a promising 2.6 YPC with 5 fumbles. He was, without a doubt, the worst running back in the league last year.

js2310 wrote:Yeah true I do agree. One guy that comes to mind is a Cincinnati guy. Chris Perry might get cut this year. He had a terrible year with fumbles but he does have talent and could come for about nothing. I wouldn't mind considering that if we need a running back later in the season or something. He is just the first person that came to mind, not someone I am saying we should sign so don't be cramming down my throat about how bad of a pickup he would be.

Understand that as I said earlier every year is a different situation so last year's Benson situation certainly is not this years nor would be the case for Chris Perry. I will say at least Benson showed potential in his career as did Tatum Bell so not sure Perry is in the same category but maybe Perry and say a Michael Bush who were both good in college but never got a full opportunity in the NFL to this point. Michael Bush I would be more interested in and with the Raiders you never know what could happen.

They would be retarded to release him. He showed promise this year and I think he will split carries with McFadden this year.

It is way too early to try and pick who will be released and the next Cedric Benson. I think the Bengals got lucky with him and I hope they do resign him to a large deal. I can see him being a bust next year.

Showed promise. Really.

104 carries, 269 yards for a promising 2.6 YPC with 5 fumbles. He was, without a doubt, the worst running back in the league last year.

Talking about Michael Bush showing promise not Chris Perry. I know Perry had a terrible year and that is why he could get cut and we would pick him up for nothing.

js2310 wrote:Yeah true I do agree. One guy that comes to mind is a Cincinnati guy. Chris Perry might get cut this year. He had a terrible year with fumbles but he does have talent and could come for about nothing. I wouldn't mind considering that if we need a running back later in the season or something. He is just the first person that came to mind, not someone I am saying we should sign so don't be cramming down my throat about how bad of a pickup he would be.

Understand that as I said earlier every year is a different situation so last year's Benson situation certainly is not this years nor would be the case for Chris Perry. I will say at least Benson showed potential in his career as did Tatum Bell so not sure Perry is in the same category but maybe Perry and say a Michael Bush who were both good in college but never got a full opportunity in the NFL to this point. Michael Bush I would be more interested in and with the Raiders you never know what could happen.

They would be retarded to release him. He showed promise this year and I think he will split carries with McFadden this year.

It is way too early to try and pick who will be released and the next Cedric Benson. I think the Bengals got lucky with him and I hope they do resign him to a large deal. I can see him being a bust next year.

Like I said with Al Davis and the Raiders you never know as Al tried to get rid of Bush last year during the year. Maybe he does it a year later.

Report: Raiders may deal either Fargas or Bush

"CommentOctober 13Contra Costa Times

"The Oakland Raiders are ready to trade either Justin Fargas or Michael Bush, according to a report on CBS Sports this morning.

CBS analyst Charley Casserly reported that the Raiders, who have three solid running backs in Fargas, Bush and rookie Darren McFadden, would be willing to deal either Fargas or Bush. Casserly said that Bush, in his second year from Louisville, would be the most likely to be dealt."

js2310 wrote:Yeah true I do agree. One guy that comes to mind is a Cincinnati guy. Chris Perry might get cut this year. He had a terrible year with fumbles but he does have talent and could come for about nothing. I wouldn't mind considering that if we need a running back later in the season or something. He is just the first person that came to mind, not someone I am saying we should sign so don't be cramming down my throat about how bad of a pickup he would be.

Understand that as I said earlier every year is a different situation so last year's Benson situation certainly is not this years nor would be the case for Chris Perry. I will say at least Benson showed potential in his career as did Tatum Bell so not sure Perry is in the same category but maybe Perry and say a Michael Bush who were both good in college but never got a full opportunity in the NFL to this point. Michael Bush I would be more interested in and with the Raiders you never know what could happen.

They would be retarded to release him. He showed promise this year and I think he will split carries with McFadden this year.

It is way too early to try and pick who will be released and the next Cedric Benson. I think the Bengals got lucky with him and I hope they do resign him to a large deal. I can see him being a bust next year.

Like I said with Al Davis and the Raiders you never know as Al tried to get rid of Bush last year during the year. Maybe he does it a year later.

Report: Raiders may deal either Fargas or Bush

"CommentOctober 13Contra Costa Times

"The Oakland Raiders are ready to trade either Justin Fargas or Michael Bush, according to a report on CBS Sports this morning.

CBS analyst Charley Casserly reported that the Raiders, who have three solid running backs in Fargas, Bush and rookie Darren McFadden, would be willing to deal either Fargas or Bush. Casserly said that Bush, in his second year from Louisville, would be the most likely to be dealt."

Well lets not worry about getting a back in the draft or Ward and get him.

I'm sure Ward is still atop of our list. I've seen it listed everywhere today.

I would be happy with either. We need to upgrade from Lewis though. Some people blame the offensive line for not making large enough holes but you have to be blind to think he didn't lose a step.

js2310 wrote:Yeah true I do agree. One guy that comes to mind is a Cincinnati guy. Chris Perry might get cut this year. He had a terrible year with fumbles but he does have talent and could come for about nothing. I wouldn't mind considering that if we need a running back later in the season or something. He is just the first person that came to mind, not someone I am saying we should sign so don't be cramming down my throat about how bad of a pickup he would be.

Understand that as I said earlier every year is a different situation so last year's Benson situation certainly is not this years nor would be the case for Chris Perry. I will say at least Benson showed potential in his career as did Tatum Bell so not sure Perry is in the same category but maybe Perry and say a Michael Bush who were both good in college but never got a full opportunity in the NFL to this point. Michael Bush I would be more interested in and with the Raiders you never know what could happen.

They would be retarded to release him. He showed promise this year and I think he will split carries with McFadden this year.

It is way too early to try and pick who will be released and the next Cedric Benson. I think the Bengals got lucky with him and I hope they do resign him to a large deal. I can see him being a bust next year.

Like I said with Al Davis and the Raiders you never know as Al tried to get rid of Bush last year during the year. Maybe he does it a year later.

Report: Raiders may deal either Fargas or Bush

"CommentOctober 13Contra Costa Times

"The Oakland Raiders are ready to trade either Justin Fargas or Michael Bush, according to a report on CBS Sports this morning.

CBS analyst Charley Casserly reported that the Raiders, who have three solid running backs in Fargas, Bush and rookie Darren McFadden, would be willing to deal either Fargas or Bush. Casserly said that Bush, in his second year from Louisville, would be the most likely to be dealt."

Well lets not worry about getting a back in the draft or Ward and get him.

I'm sure Ward is still atop of our list. I've seen it listed everywhere today.

I would be happy with either. We need to upgrade from Lewis though. Some people blame the offensive line for not making large enough holes but you have to be blind to think he didn't lose a step.

I agree once again. We have too many other needs to address and I realize its just a starting point but I would be willing to pay the $4 mil Ward mentioned when he referenced playing for the Browns, Texans or Cardinals.

I have had this feeling for awhile that Ward should be the guy to go out and get this offseason

js2310 wrote:Yeah true I do agree. One guy that comes to mind is a Cincinnati guy. Chris Perry might get cut this year. He had a terrible year with fumbles but he does have talent and could come for about nothing. I wouldn't mind considering that if we need a running back later in the season or something. He is just the first person that came to mind, not someone I am saying we should sign so don't be cramming down my throat about how bad of a pickup he would be.

Understand that as I said earlier every year is a different situation so last year's Benson situation certainly is not this years nor would be the case for Chris Perry. I will say at least Benson showed potential in his career as did Tatum Bell so not sure Perry is in the same category but maybe Perry and say a Michael Bush who were both good in college but never got a full opportunity in the NFL to this point. Michael Bush I would be more interested in and with the Raiders you never know what could happen.

They would be retarded to release him. He showed promise this year and I think he will split carries with McFadden this year.

It is way too early to try and pick who will be released and the next Cedric Benson. I think the Bengals got lucky with him and I hope they do resign him to a large deal. I can see him being a bust next year.

Showed promise. Really.

104 carries, 269 yards for a promising 2.6 YPC with 5 fumbles. He was, without a doubt, the worst running back in the league last year.

Talking about Michael Bush showing promise not Chris Perry. I know Perry had a terrible year and that is why he could get cut and we would pick him up for nothing.