there is another whole board on speedos somewhere, I was just there today and that is just gross and not right. I do not want to see men, no matter how they are built in speedos. Now, on the other hand, if I was a woman that could wear a thong, I might think about it. But I am 44 and no one wants to see a 44 year old in a thong!!!!!!! Go for it 18 year olds!!!!!!!!!