A disaster emergency, as defined in Section 46-1002 (3) and (4), Idaho Code, is in existence as a result of the 1995-96 introduction of the Canadian Gray Wolves, causing vast devastation of the social culture, economy and natural resources of Idaho County.

What is wrong with making wolves extinct in the wild? They serve no modern purpose, the only thing they do is thin the herds of animals that man likes to hunt, nurture or grow into steaks. Evolution demands that we as the top predator in the world, hunt them until gone.

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posted on 09/21/2010 8:39:29 PM PDT
by runninglips
(Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)

We just spend a month in Idaho. The folks there are incensed at the situation. One Canadian gray wolf kills and eats 40 ungulates (hoofed animals) per year and kills another 40 just for the sport of it. The are decimating the elk, antelope and deer herds and also endangering moose. It’s getting to a crisis stage.

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posted on 09/21/2010 8:39:50 PM PDT
by randita
(Visit keyhouseraces.com to find GOP House candidates who need your support to knock off a DEM.)

Federal implementation of wolf introduction has violated the Endangered Species act (ESA) on virtually every count. Dr. Richard Mitchell, PhD., one of the original authors of the ESA, traveled from Washington, D.C., on January 11, 2000, to testify in Billings [Montana] at the Predator Management Symposium.

Dr. Mitchell stated to an audience of several hundred, including Sen. Conrad Burns, that it was a violation of the ESA to dump the Canadian Grey wolf on top of the Rocky Mountain wolf.

The entire state should declare itself a wolf disaster area. Last year, in my area of the state, it was the worst elk hunting season that anyone can remember. The so-called experts do not have a clue what the wolf population is.

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posted on 09/21/2010 8:47:07 PM PDT
by Cuttnhorse
("It is terrible to contemplete how few politicians are hanged." - G.K. Chesterton, 1921)

“The entire state should declare itself a wolf disaster area. Last year, in my area of the state, it was the worst elk hunting season that anyone can remember. The so-called experts do not have a clue what the wolf population is.”

Regretfully, I must tell you those bureau-scientists DO know what the wolf population is, the damage their wolves are inflicting on the prey base, and the source of their funding.

The “source of their funding” is the critical clause. Bureau-scientists are AgencyPersons first and scientists second. As AgencyPersons, they live by the core rule of all AgencyPersons in all bureaucracies.

That core belief of the NatureNazi in that Department of Wildlife uniform is: “AGENDA UBER ALLES!”

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posted on 09/21/2010 9:19:06 PM PDT
by GladesGuru
(In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)

Wolves are impressive and beautiful animals, but there’s no excuse for allowing them anywhere near populated areas. If we need population control for small animals, there are predators for that which are non a threat to humans, and if we need population control for large animals, nobody does it better than humans with firearms.

I’m more than happy to go to a zoo or predator refuge if I want to be mystified by the majesty of the wolf.

How’s this for a small-scale version of this kind of “predator introduction”: In NYC some city EPA officials decided to introduce possums to control the rat population (four legged). Now part of the city is being overrun by possums and the rat problem continues unabated.
This is the problem with bureaucrats calling the shots! They only know that the gray wolf is Canis Lupus! They can’t distinguish between a Canadian Gray, a Mexican Gray or a Western Gray Wolf. They have no concept (or refuse to accept) that the difference can be, on a predatory scale, as great as that between a Pekingese and a Rottweiler. And the ranchers are left to clean up the mess and get stuck with the bill as well!

I didn’t bother to purchase a hunting
license last year or this year. There are
many very experienced hunters in town
with all the “toys”. They have been coming
home empty handed. My company has
me on an extended trip to San Diego so
I couldn’t take advantage of a license
anyway.

the Canadian Grey Wolf, a super sized predator hunting in super sized packs that evolved to chase caribou herds for hundreds of miles.

Inasmuch as I am predisposed to reducing the bulk of these predators to fur coats, genetically, this belief that the wolves introduced into Yellowstone are genetically foreign is a myth; they are the same species. Wolves can double or halve in size in but five generations depending upon environmental conditions, particularly the abundance and quality of food. I have greater objections to the fact that the introduced wolves were carrying hydatid cysts from Echinococcosis granulosus tapeworms (despite agency promises to the contrary) than to their size relative to existing timber wolf packs hundreds of miles away. The reason the packs are large is that up until recently, food has been plentiful. When that is gone and they resort to cannibalism, things will change.

One way or another, large numbers of them need to be hunted down now, if not eradicated until the E. granulosus eggs are gone, which could take 25 years or more. THAT introduction is the real environmental disaster associated with this program.

As to your source, I would take everything Julie Smithson republishes with a serious grain of salt. She is diligent, but totally unqualified to evaluate the integrity of technical research. Stick with guys like George Dovel and Charles Kay.

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posted on 09/21/2010 10:58:24 PM PDT
by Carry_Okie
(The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)

The wolves also easily out breed the elk, so the wolf population is exploding.

The problem then seems to be genetics. With our modern science and genetics we just need to breed elk that hunt and have a taste for wolf. Can you imagine a herd of ravenous elk with sharp teeth and their very pointy antlers?

Anyone see those Atlantic Salmon. Larger (about 3 times as big) and hungrier than the native salmon. Picture elk with the same effect.

The wolves wouldn't stand a chance. It would be a massacre for the wolves. Yes nature at it's modified best. Just picture the videos on You Tube...

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posted on 09/21/2010 11:12:05 PM PDT
by JSteff
((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))

I was working at a site near Salmon, Idaho - about 1994?. They had recently introduced just two wolves I think into the area. It wasn’t too long afterwards that a wolve was found nailed to a telephone pole with a sign that said “Ranchers 1, Wolves 0”.

Amazing how that has changed in just 16 years.

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posted on 09/21/2010 11:25:37 PM PDT
by 21twelve
( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)

Hmmmn - Could we infer from your post’s mention of hydatid disease that Democrap Syndrome (DS)is a result of a hyperparasite infecting a human host which is not evolutionarily adapted to CNS infections?

If so, this might offer a cure for DS. Imagine a world where a dose of an antihelminthic would turn urban social parasites back into productive humans.

;-)

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posted on 09/22/2010 6:21:12 AM PDT
by GladesGuru
(In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)

We have had mountain lions in town (Pocatello/Chubbuck) intermittently over the last 10 years. Sometimes they go "hunting" down the canals that are routed between backyards. That gives them easy access to the yards and pets. The most recent case in Chubbuck involved a mountain lion under the porch of a home near Reservation Rd and Yellowstone Ave. Animal control managed to remove it. We often have moose, elk and deer walking around town, so there is "wild" food available in addition to pets and people. Some livestock too as there are still farms with cows, sheep and horses scattered around town.

My wife isn't always armed, but she has the option to do so. She works as a police dispatcher, so often has armed officers very nearby.

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