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Pacers/Suns postgame thread

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Going away from Hibbert really cost us, although Gortat started to defend him more physically. David West was pretty quiet, and we still have trouble getting our big men the basketball where they want it. George Hill and Barbosa have been ineffective lately, but Hans made some good plays.

Re: Pacers/Suns postgame thread

The Pacers are a supremely talented team. But we are lacking one or two things or a combination of both: a floor general and a crisp well-run offense. More needs to be done by Frank to make sure the players are facilitating the latter since we certainly lack the former. Our offense right now looks really gummed up out there. That is the reason why a team with as much talent as we have is losing to .500 teams on our home floor.

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Re: Pacers/Suns postgame thread

Reposting this reply of mine from the game thread, because it's exactly my postgame feelings:
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I am sorry, I know that often times we complain about the lack of fair calls (fans of EVERY team do)

But this was truly pathetic.

There were a MINIMUM of 5 no calls on blatant fouls. Tyler got hammered repeatedly near the rim all game. PG's final putback attempt was slashed across the arm. Not to mention Lopez wrestled David West to the ground on the same play.

Yes, Nash played amazing basketball, and they played well enough to win the game.

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I think Nash was showing Larry where to spend some of that cap space this summer. If you just offer more then the MLE then you have most teams beat. A chance to make a final run at a ring and get paid might be a little more intriguing then what the Heat can offer.

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The team fought its way back to a seemingly lost game after the 3rd and after Frye hit that 3 with 20 seconds remaining to put us down by 6. In the end, we even had a chance to tie it.

Yeah, some calls were ambiguous. But que sera sera. Our guys fought. In the end, that's what they will get away from this game. The fire to fight every game and the security that their coach will stand up for them.

Call me a fool but I'm not sad about this loss. A win would be better for sure but at least the guys did everyting they could for the period I was watching.

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I think Nash was showing Larry where to spend some of that cap space this summer. If you just offer more then the MLE then you have most teams beat. A chance to make a final run at a ring and get paid might be a little more intriguing then what the Heat can offer.

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The team fought its way back to a seemingly lost game after the 3rd and after Frye hit that 3 with 20 seconds remaining to put us down by 6. In the end, we even had a chance to tie it.

Yeah, some calls were ambiguous. But que sera sera. Our guys fought. In the end, that's what they will get away from this game. The fire to fight every game and the security that their coach will stand up for them.

Call me a fool but I'm not sad about this loss. A win would be better for sure but at least the guys did everyting they could for the period I was watching.

PS: I only watched the 10 last minutes of the 4th.

I too am proud of our guys for fighting.

I would also agree, we shouldn't be "sad" about this loss.

We should be pissed that when our guys EARNED the right to at the very LEAST take that game to OT, the refs just looked the other way and stole the chance to win it that we EARNED with gutsy play at the end of the game.

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We should be pissed that when our guys EARNED the right to at the very LEAST take that game to OT, the refs just looked the other way and stole the chance to win it that we EARNED with gutsy play at the end of the game.

Sickening.

We would have taken it to OT if Frank would have kept his mouth shut. That point ended up being the difference. I'm not ragging on Frank for getting the tech, at the time I think it was the right signal to send and no one can predict the final score. But if Frank would have made a different decision (he knew he was going to get tossed) the whole complexion of the last two minutes may be different.

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Re: Pacers/Suns postgame thread

I understand the sentiment. Officiating can be criticized here, but personally don't blame refs for losses unless it's absolutely egregious. We had opportunities in spite of calls, we just did not take advantage.

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anyone who blindly defends nba officitiang is a moron. they screwed us and vogel can't even talk about it because th gestapo (NBA) will come down on him. The refs can dictate who wins any games and no one can say a thing about it.

"We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.

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We would have taken it to OT if Frank would have kept his mouth shut. That point ended up being the difference. I'm not ragging on Frank for getting the tech, at the time I think it was the right signal to send and no one can predict the final score. But if Frank would have made a different decision (he knew he was going to get tossed) the whole complexion of the last two minutes may be different.

Yea absolutely.

It brings up an interesting question.

Is it more "beneficial" to the teams chances of winning to AVOID the tech, *OR* to give up the point and light a fire under the teams butt?

Do we end up having a chance to win at the end without Frank getting tossed? I don't know... It's an interesting theory.

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Re: Pacers/Suns postgame thread

When you look at the 2-5 positions between the Pacers and the Suns, we are without a doubt better than them. The difference is the fact they have Nash and the fact the Pacers don't have the means to run an offense 1/10th as well as Nash does for the Suns.

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We would have taken it to OT if Frank would have kept his mouth shut. That point ended up being the difference. I'm not ragging on Frank for getting the tech, at the time I think it was the right signal to send and no one can predict the final score. But if Frank would have made a different decision (he knew he was going to get tossed) the whole complexion of the last two minutes may be different.

On the replay I thought it looked like they called it correctly. PG never controlled it individually and called TO. There was a player on the ball before he could gather and get it called.

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I understand the sentiment. Officiating can be criticized here, but personally don't blame refs for losses unless it's absolutely egregious. We had opportunities in spite of calls, we just did not take advantage.