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It would be tempting to presume that Gravity Block actuallybelieves what he posts in support of a Flat Earth. But, whenhis "proofs" are examined scientifically they are found to benaught more than amateurish spoofs. Ample illustration thatGravity Block is simply a mere minion within the greater plotof deception.

Gravity Block knows that he is promoting deception. So thenone wonders what could possibly be his motive?

Ego.

TinKoa has, once again, nailed it.

No, I'm exposing a great deception, and in the upcoming days, an even greater deception is coming that is based on this current deception. It is you who is being deceived.

1 Chronicles 16:30: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable."

Psalm 93:1: "Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ..."

Psalm 96:10: "He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ..."

Isaiah 45:18: "...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast..."

More Spam by the bored teenager bots! You don't have a better argument to refute what is being posted? Of course not, so spam is your only option at this time.

Gravock

Ah yes, the classic response of a Bored Teenager who, after being bombarded with scientific facts, now claims they were spam. So, all of my logical and scientific responses were just spam...I see. Everyone's scientific postings were all spam too I suppose?

How about the fact that the internet that you rely on so much to find junk postings to post as proof, and that you use to make your Bored Teenager rants here would not work the way it does if the world was flat? Ha ha, the very fact that you are on the internet right now disproves all of your BS theories.

I am glad I thought of this. You just busted yourself just by being here, ha ha!!!!

Gravock calls anything written by anyone that disagrees with him Spam. He has totally redefined the word to suit his needs thereby allowing him to continue to ignore basic facts that are, as you said, easily observable.

Of course, no one else on the planet agree with his redefined definition but hey, that will not stop him from ignorantly plodding on using that word incorrectly.

Aye, that is the procedure laid out in the "Play Book."

It is just a game.

But there is some ego gratification involved. Those whoare advocates for the deception get a literal orgasmwhen their spoofs are responded to with reason andemotion. They are "hooked" on a new form of gratificationwhich is, for them, as addictive as a drug. They delight inperforming service to the Father of the Lie.

I remember when some popular music artist was spreading this hoax around heavily and apparently built quite a following... He was constantly bombarded with the type of logic you would expect from people who are aware the earth is not flat. It eventually did become apparent to me that no right minded individual capable of maintaining any form of interaction with society as an adult could truly believe this, and it was most likely a ploy that no one was able to catch... He knew full well it wasn't true but committed to the lie for a couple possible reasons I can think of..

1- a form of 'research study' trying to prove how easily some people can be persuaded to believe a lie simply out of over idolizing whomever they received the information from.2- making a point about how harsh people can be toward those who are not up to par on the facts, and how there is more ridiculing and belittling than real attempts toward dissuading this person from his/her erroneous views.

personally, i think grav just wants to litter this forum with an over the top ridiculous topic

I'll meet you halfway. Though we have apparently been deceived as to the geometry of the planet we reside, one such as yourself should still be able to use the tools of math and technology to pin point where exactly our Earth 'ends'. When you work out the length and width, and provide me a GPS coordinate, or even ballpark handwritten map of where I can personally travel to this edge, I promise to one day travel to this edge of Earth and film it in high definition in the presence of 10 credible witnesses. Fair?

Yes, that's fair. The edge can be found in Antarctica. Antarctica is the ice ring surrounding the flat earth.

This thread has just been hijacked with meaningless posts by the ballers who can't refute the flat earth model! It's as if they're throwing a temper tantrum because they can't have it their way. ROFLMAO

This thread has been hijacked with meaningless posts by those who can't refute the flat earth model!

Gravock

Ummm...it was refuted by the first post made by someone other than you. Since then, it has been totally refuted many, many times. I think you just like the attention this brings you because, even a bored teenager would know simple scientific facts that you just gloss over and ignore.

Does your Mom know you are on here doing this?

Have you figured out how your simple act of using the internet proves the earth is round? It is a no brainer and even you should be able to handle it. You have clearly refuted all of your so-called evidence just by making your first post here.

Ha ha, this is really funny. Actually, if you can't figure out how you have done this...it might be a little sad.

Bill

PS I'll give you a hint...it has to do with a book called: "The Cockoo's Egg" by Clifford Stoll

As the band plays on.... www.flatearth.goesviral.net, www.AplaneTruth.info . Huge views on Youtube with players like ODD TV, Mark Mullin, DMurphy25, Dan Dimension, Mark Sargent, Eric Dubay. All getting people to Question Everything! I like it!..... Even the President on the US has mentioned it in his speeches many times over the last several years.... Gotta love it.

You really are hilarious! That is the stupidest video I've seen in a long time. The person who made that video is totally ignorant of astronomy and simply lies when claiming that the Northern and Southern planispheres (sky maps) can be superimposed in that manner, with identical stars showing up near the respective Celestial Poles. For example the Greater and Lesser Magellanic Clouds cannot be seen at all from most of the Northern Hemisphere but are prominent in the Southern night skies at the right time of year. And there is no star right at the Southern Celestial Pole, but Polaris is very near the NCP. There is no Octans constellation near the NCP but there is at the SCP. There is no Big Dipper pointing to Polaris at the SCP. There is no Southern Cross in the Northern sky. And on and on. Certainly there are some constellations near the Celestial Equator that can be seen from both hemispheres, but not near the Celestial Poles! That video was made by an ignoramus.

So Gravock your best "evidence" for your silly "flat-earth" comes from an old book of mythological fairy tales and some videos made by ignoramuses who can't even get their basic facts straight.

Meanwhile, this morning (in America) Mercury transited the face of the Sun, and this event (sadly not visible from Australia) was observed and recorded in many places. It was too cloudy here in the Southern USA but if the skies had been clear I would have observed it myself, as I observed and photographed the transit of Venus in 2012. Astronomers have used such transits of Mercury and Venus for many years to tell us about the nature of the Solar System. In 1716, the astronomer Edmund Halley proposed a method, using Venus transits, for determining the distance from the Earth to the Sun. They already knew enough at that early date to calculate when these rare transits would occur. So in 1761 and 1769, several international expeditions were mounted to locations where the transits of Venus could be observed precisely in order to make this measurement of the Earth-Sun distance.

Of course the "flat earthers" will just say that all this history and data is made up, a bunch of lies to fool people into believing... what? For what reason? This is why this is not a "discussion" at all, any more than one can "discuss" religion with a Jehova's Witness, a Mormon, or a Muslim. They are right and skeptics are wrong and there is nothing you can "discuss" that will make them believe otherwise. Or as a popular USA bumper sticker says, "God said it, I believe it, and that settles it." (And on the other bumper, "Protected by .357 Magnum" or some such.)

There are several good, FREE, planetarium programs that are available for download, that depict the night sky that one would see, without the hassle of clouds or light pollution. These programs even can interface with computerised telescope mounts to point the scope to the same part of the sky that is shown in the program, so the observer can see for him or herself that the program is a faithful representation of what is actually out there.For Linux users, KStars works quite well. Others, for Linux, Windows, OSX, include Cartes du Ciel and Stellarium.

There are even versions that you can put on your tablet or cellphone, that will show you the stars in whatever part of the sky by "aiming" the phone at the sky.

I encourage "flat earthers" to download and explore these programs. You can then see for yourself that the northern and southern skies -- the planispheres talked about in the video above -- are nothing like each other and cannot be overlapped as the ignoramus claimed. I'm pretty sure these "flat earthers" don't have computerized telescopes so they will have to depend on their naked eye or binoculars to check their local night skies to assure themselves that the planetarium programs are telling them what is actually to be seen in the sky.

It makes me sad for Carl Sagan because he passed away just as the discovery of planets started to take off. And now of course we now know that there are billions and billions of them just in the Milky Way.

Apparently when the James Webb Space Telescope is launched (October 2018) they will be able to use the star transit technique to look for the signature gasses of life on other planets. Although you can't be sure, it will still be a profound moment in world history if they do indeed find that.

And to think when I was growing up I always believed that it would be "impossible" to detect the presence of planets around far away stars.

Meanwhile, this morning (in America) Mercury transited the face of the Sun, and this event (sadly not visible from Australia) was observed and recorded in many places. It was too cloudy here in the Southern USA but if the skies had been clear I would have observed it myself, as I observed and photographed the transit of Venus in 2012. Astronomers have used such transits of Mercury and Venus for many years to tell us about the nature of the Solar System. In 1716, the astronomer Edmund Halley proposed a method, using Venus transits, for determining the distance from the Earth to the Sun. They already knew enough at that early date to calculate when these rare transits would occur. So in 1761 and 1769, several international expeditions were mounted to locations where the transits of Venus could be observed precisely in order to make this measurement of the Earth-Sun distance.