Re: NFL Time

Originally Posted by TomAz

In essence, here's the explanation from referee Clete Blakeman:

I'm not sure about Blakeman himself, but the retired ref that Gruden and Tirico had in the booth after the game was obviously just protecting his boys. Felt like a politician giving a speech who didn't care whether it was the truth or not.

Re: NFL Time

Originally Posted by TallGuyCM

I'm not sure about Blakeman himself, but the retired ref that Gruden and Tirico had in the booth after the game was obviously just protecting his boys. Felt like a politician giving a speech who didn't care whether it was the truth or not.

Re: NFL Time

Originally Posted by unit300021

Santasutt I agree like most people that it was a bad call and should have been a penalty, but please don't act like it was the worst call in the history of the NFL because it wasn't. Hell it's arguably not even the most controversial call of the weekend to be honest.

Also please stop referring to it in general as a miraculous comeback. Brady has only made a career of winning games in the final 2 minutes that it really isn't miraculous as much as it is expected now. Also against a very good Carolina D with limited space not even a guarantee the Patriots score.

Unit, I was at the game. Cam Newton played his ass off. He ran like a tailback and made clutch passes all night. Three TDs. Pats D had no answer.

The Patriots didn't make enough plays to win the game. They fucked themselves a number of times: The Ridley fumble inside the 10, The stupid personal fouls on Talib and Mankins, the questionable third and one call in the fourth when the should have smashmouthed it through like they were doing most of the night. Instead they settle for the FG and give the Panthers a ton of clock.

Nevertheless, the game cannot end on a penalty, right? Pats got screwed.

The NFL should just admit that this crew fucked up the call. That's it.

Originally Posted by MotorAve

Careful, while the threats are amusingly clueless, I could probably have this whole board shut down with one phone call.

Re: NFL Time

Originally Posted by santasutt

Watch it again, Tom.

The ball was thrown, with some zip on it, to the spot were Gronk would have been had he not been re-routed by the bear-hug. He would have made a play on the ball and maybe it get's intercepted anyway. But you cannot say that Kuechly did not commit blatant pass interference. End of discussion.

Re: NFL Time

Originally Posted by bobert

Tom, I had some money burning a hole in my bovada account so I started looking at the props for NFL futures. The Cardinals' regular season win total was 5 1/2 games and I put $100 on the over. I figure Palmer coming to town is worth at least a 3 game improvement over last year and Michael Floyd seems primed for a breakout. What do you think?

Originally Posted by TomAz

I hope you win your bet. I think the OL will be much better this year (barring too many injuries, which is part of what sunk them last year). I'm hoping for the best with Palmer, we'll see. I certainly like our coaching.. they haven't lost a game yet.

also: Michael Floyd seemed to have a work ethic issue last year, but reports are that has changed, I know a number of national media outlets are also predicting a breakout year for him. we'll see.

Well, Tom, your Cardinals came through for me and it only took 11 weeks. Color me impressed. Wish I would have bet more.

Re: NFL Time

Originally Posted by Gribbz

Fantasy football is the worst thing to happen to sports since Joe Buck.

I just went on a (slightly guinness-fueled) rant about this exact topic (well, not Joe Buck) while tailgating yesterday. Fantasy football skews people's perception of actual football. They think of team strengths in terms of how many fantasy points they can get, and not in terms of actual results on the field. Football is a team game that is much more nuanced and complex than who you should start in the flex this week.

Clarification: I don't mean to say that everyone who plays fantasy football is guilty of this; just that some are.