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Author of Proof of Our ResolveFri, 09 Dec 2016 19:04:34 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: mswhttps://chrishernandezauthor.com/2013/01/11/a-conversation-about-armed-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-107950
Mon, 08 Sep 2014 15:58:28 +0000http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=324#comment-107950Loved the piece and thanks for sharing. There is hope for America that we don’t have to scream at one another and instead agree to disagree. Also nice to see there are no trolls here looking to scream at someone and that you are using a moderator to make sure that the blog is not used by some to scream at others. Keep up the good work for trying to make the world a better place! Btw, in favor of teachers carrying. When I went to school back in the day, you got tossed out for 3 days for not wearing a belt and the girls the same for the skirt not touching the ground when they kneel down. And you got no sympathy for complaining about it. That would be a high class problem today that any school would love to have. Culture has changed a tad bit, ya think?
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Mon, 01 Sep 2014 02:34:45 +0000http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=324#comment-104925Ever wonder why the U.S. had to bail France and the rest of Europe out in two world wars?
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Wed, 07 Aug 2013 02:07:19 +0000http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=324#comment-6409I’d say the fear of people becoming foolish or out of control when carrying a weapon is misplaced. Yes, there are criminals who get stupid with weapons. But armed, trained good guys, even those with the minimum training, aren’t going crazy and murdering people. Where I live, many people carry weapons every day. Yet we’re not having problems with those people going crazy and murdering people. Our citizens are not as out-of-control as many people think.

According to statistics cited by the extremely liberal website the Daily Kos, in 2009 1146 Americans were killed in firearms accidents. Yes, that’s terrible. Accidents with weapons shouldn’t be tolerated, and gun owners need to be responsible. However, those accidents do not justify stripping Americans of a crucial right.

I don’t want an untrained person carrying a weapon around my son. But I’d rather have a half-trained person with a gun there to protect my son from a school shooter, than have nobody with a weapon to fight back. Armed teachers aren’t a perfect solution, but they’re better than “surrender and hope for the best”.

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Tue, 06 Aug 2013 06:11:38 +0000http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=324#comment-6369Oh and BTW when i say that everyone is stupid and violent i m thinking about the fact that when people are afraid their brain stops to work efficiency
When i see people beginning a fighting sport almost everyone during the first fight will turn is head to protect himself as soon as he gets punch in the head
But when you turn your head your shoulders starts to turn aswell and even if they have already lost the fight they start uselessly blind punching

Of course i don t believe that every gun holder is a retard moron
But i m concern about in a risky situation who will keep is head cool and stay focus on his target and who Will start to turn is head and blind shoot ?

How Many accidental kill ? How Many people shooting children because they werent sure of their objective ? How many people didn t think enough each year while carrying ( or not) a gun?

Again it s easy for us european to think we can juge you cause we don t have to décide what to do in your position, if i knew lot s of bad guys were weaponised in my neighbourhood you can bet your ass that i ll be weaponised too
But the only thing de can really do is to give you a small point of view of a distant cousin🙂

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Tue, 06 Aug 2013 05:47:38 +0000http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=324#comment-6367I m looking forward to read you in french,
About the gun control it litteraly took me years to understand your point of view, then i figure out what you Just say ” guns are already out there and it would took centuries to Remove weapons…” So the problem is more how to live with them.
Indeed in the military/ police duty Life you have barely a second to take a decision and indeed armed teacher would be the more convenient solution about that, but i m still really concern about a proper training. would you let someone even a real good willing person but without a real training in hightly stress situation carrying a gun around your sons?
I m still to shy about that and that s why i still believe in security gards, but we never know, give me few more years and i may change my mind😉
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Tue, 06 Aug 2013 02:35:01 +0000http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=324#comment-6353Sylvain,

I know and understand the European attitude toward guns pretty well. I lived in Europe for a year and a half and worked with officers from all over Europe. I think most of Europe views our guns laws as unreasonable, and thinks they should be changed.

But as you said, the US isn’t Europe. European countries are founded on a belief that the king/government knows what is best for the people and sets standards of behavior. The US was created with the express belief that people have certain rights no matter what any king or government says. Our rights are not decided by popular opinion, or by the whim of the current elected government; our rights are inalienable, not subject to change. They weren’t created in 1787, they were simply recognized in writing in 1787. They always existed and will always exist. If a future American government repeals the Bill of Rights, that does not mean those rights no longer exist; it means an illegitimate government is withholding freedom from our citizens. If that happens, and I’m still physically capable, I will fight against that government. I expect my sons to fight also.

You mentioned that you view humans as stupid and violent. That is a problem here too. In my opinion, Americans who support gun control view their fellow Americans as stupid, violent, unstable and out of control. The gun control supporters view themselves as, of course, intelligent, level-headed and peaceful. But they view the rest of us as stupid fools who can’t be trusted with weapons. There are tens of millions of intelligent, peaceful, non-violent gun owners in America who reject the notion that we’re all violent morons.

And on a practical level, gun control can never be accomplished. As you stated, the guns are already out there. It would take centuries to remove all the weapons that are already in circulation. And during those centuries, only the law-abiding citizens would be disarmed.

Teachers should be armed. If that means we’ve given up hope for a peaceful society, then we accept that and move on. If I, as a soldier, am on patrol and see a child walking toward me with a hand grenade, I have seconds to make a decision. I don’t have time to feel sorrow about this poor child’s life, or ask why anyone would teach a child to attack soldiers with a hand grenade, or think of ways to improve the lives of children in that country. When the child approaches me with a grenade, I have to react to the immediate problem. And when some cowardly murderer enters opens fire at a school, any considerations about what this means to society don’t matter. All that matters is stopping the killing, as soon as possible. The only adults who are there and able to do it are teachers. Police will never be there in time. Security guards can’t be everywhere. But teachers can be. And based on what we’ve seen in Utah, Ohio and Texas, many teachers are willing to carry a weapon to protect their students.

We disagree about gun control, but you’re always welcome to come here and offer your opinion. I’d really like to hear how you wound up with a gun pointed at you here in America. And don’t apologize for your English, it is much better than my French. I am taking an informal French class next month, hopefully I will be able to converse in French again soon.

Chris

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Mon, 05 Aug 2013 12:18:38 +0000http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=324#comment-6330Hey guys,
I know i’m digging out an old post but i never knew that some teacher in the US were armed… And honestly i was shocked… At first.
The all thing it wasn’t as clear in my mind.
I am a gun control person for one reason, it s quite simple i trully think that the human being is a stupid and a dangerous Life being ( myself included… In fact especially myself😉 )
In my opinion only hightly trained professionals should carry a gun, and i m not talking about ” i m going to the shooting range twice a week so i’m trained” cause we both know that someone could be a hell of a sharpshooter on a shooting range but a real nightmare in a hightly stressing situation, cause fear can make you do some really stupid things

The fact is saying what i say is really easy and almost useless in this debate cause your country is already full of guns ( and not only hand guns ) and the answer of this post is not about gun control but armed teachers

So what s the solution against school shooting ?
It s simple…
I have no (perfect )idea !

As you said having fortified schools could be good but honestly it s way to expensive to be done ( or maybe for few hightly costy private schools)
Giving guns to teacher?… For me it s just admitting we ve totaly give up, we ve lost faith in a better future
A lesser evil could be to have armed hightly trained security teams in each school, it would be costy i admit it but way less than switching schools in banksafes and more efficient than allowing randomn citizen ( even teachers) to carry a gun without a proper training.

Saying that i have few things to add about myself:
•i know i’m not from your country and i admit i completelly miss the all ” it s in the constitution thing”
It is indeed, but can t it evolve a bit? France have change it s own constitution several Times ( i know USA is not France) yours was written in 1787 and few things in the world have change since then so why not the constitution?
• i do have a gun at home, a small thing a .22LR carbine
And yes i have to admit it i would use it to defend my family ( not my home if you see the difference)
• i was on the other side of the barrel when i was travelling in the US it was probably my bad i was stupid enough to say ” excuse me sir may i ask you something” i know i m a real jerk i Will nether ask that again, but it was an interresting experience even if i was really really pissed of by that time

And last but not least i hope my post isn t a pain in the ass to read with all the mistakes i m sure i ve done plus the typos my autocorrect made me done.

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Sun, 05 May 2013 06:45:50 +0000http://chrishernandezauthor.com/?p=324#comment-3536Whoosh! again. There are more than 2 countries. It’s not a matter of us, and the rest of the world. In fact, there are around 196 countries. Using your numbers, 4 here, and 6 divided by the other 195 countries? About .03, or a ratio of .0075 to 1.

Or we can use the Wikipedia numbers.
1/4 of 60 is 15 here.
3/4 of 60 is 45 for the rest of the world, divided by 195 comes to .23 for each of the other countries.
The ratio would be .015 to 1.
Either way, the numbers don’t make us look good.

I would guess that factoring in population densities and other factors might change the numbers a bit, but not the obvious. We do have a problem here.

I’m not against arming teachers. Maybe it will work. Turning the US into a surveillance state certainly hasn’t.

I’ve seen stats about that here and there, and some have been contradictory. All the stats I’ve seen confirm that not all the worst school shootings have been here. I’ll have to do some research on that.

I haven’t seen any refutation of the “gun free zone” fact you cited. GFZs are an absolute fantasy. They may as well just add another sign that says “No Mass Murder Followed By Suicide” sign if they think a GFZ sign accomplishes anything.