This installment features the conclusion of KMO’s conversation with Jason Horsley about the limits and pitfalls of entheogenic self-exploration and the utility of surrender. The second half of the program brings together clips from other podcasts and excerpts from Carolyn Baker’s book Sacred Demise: Walking the Spiritual Path of Industrial Civilization's Collapse to communicate the possibilities for transformation that collapse presents to each of us. At the end of your rope? Good on ya!