consequences and fear of spilling outandhezbollahloomslarge. >> wish we had more historical depth how we look at this. this is the third arab state to be devastated by a civil war. without pointing fingers of blame, lebanon for 15 years was devastated by civil war. foreign armies, foreign intelligence services. after the u.s. invasion in 2003 iraq went through a different but similar process. >> let's point fingers, please. >> in case of iraq we can point finger at the bush administration, it's very clear. it's not just displacement of millions of people. it's not just people being slaughtered which is happening in syria. it's the deconstruction of stooss of state, the idea of a state of law, all -- >> the worst elements of society. >> exactly. giving free rein to people whose objectives and aims and means are horrific as far as, including most syrians are concerned or most iraqis and lebanese were concerned and stopping this as quickly as possible is something we should be concerned about. as this continues, the radicalization and extremism gets worse. >> the ripple effect, the reason w