I will speak for myself for questions I posted about my new GC. My question was to see if more people were experiencing any of the same problems or to see if it was just the new design. This is my 5th GC and have been threw countless recalls, TSB and numerous other problems just for my Jeep. I have never went to the dealer with a bogus complaint and each time it was fixed. So if I have a concern, rattle or something I don't think is right it's going to the dealer. Granted there are no major recalls, but being a brand new vehicle and the money I spent I expect it to run and sound like new.

Not saying you are totally wrong but it is way to early for any recalls anyways. It takes a lot of exploding cars or failed brakes for the most part to realize a trend and see that a problem exists. Really there are probably too few of these out there right now to even see if there is a pattern that would require a recall.

For example:

My jeeps (formerly) leaking windshield, was it just a screwup at the factory or is there something wrong with the sealant used during say 2 weeks of assembly? Until you have a lot of cars leaking and Chryslers Tech support (yes they have a thing according to who I spoke with) sees a problem there is not way to issue recall.

Not trying to be pessimistic I hope there are NO recalls, as I said I have had very few problems over 4 jeeps and am very supportive just saying its too early to really tell.

This isn't just a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee thing, it's an effect of all the additional technology added to new vehicles psychosis. Every several year period brings additional tech to mainstream vehicles and many people are not aware of what goes along with a given new technology. The funny noise at 35mph due to traction control calibration is an example. Remember when ABS was new and people complained their cars "moaned" when stopping hard on rain-soaked roads? Same kind of thing.

One big complaint I hear is easily explained: "Why is this _______(insert vehicle) so darn heavy? My old one was so much lighter. No wonder it gets so-so fuel economy and feels slow; it's too heavy."

What people aren't seeing is the government mandating stricter crash standards and stricter rollover protection; that costs more steel and adds WEIGHT. The amazing thing is how well the manufacturers engineers have responded to maintain and sometimes improve overall performance given the extra hoops they must leap through to meet yet another government mandate. It's a plus & minus thing.

Another on is "Why do these things cost so much?" Because of: stricter emissions standards; stricter crash impact standards; required stability controls,; required ABS; environmentally friendly materials; additional safety/environment/govt misc standards at the plants; higher cost for workers; etc. For what we get at the price adjusted for inflation, we're getting a LOT more for our money than we did before even if a lot of what we get we didn't ask for.

Of course things won't be perfect, but with this price tag an issue out of the box like this shuddering for example is very frustrating.
Also, only from us whining about it will it get resolved. If nobody complained, I'm sure nobody would care to fix it.
Also, we are all here in part to share stories of our trucks that we all own (plan on owning) and love!

This isn't just a 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee thing, it's an effect of all the additional technology added to new vehicles psychosis. Every several year period brings additional tech to mainstream vehicles and many people are not aware of what goes along with a given new technology. The funny noise at 35mph due to traction control calibration is an example. Remember when ABS was new and people complained their cars "moaned" when stopping hard on rain-soaked roads? Same kind of thing.

One big complaint I hear is easily explained: "Why is this _______(insert vehicle) so darn heavy? My old one was so much lighter. No wonder it gets so-so fuel economy and feels slow; it's too heavy."

What people aren't seeing is the government mandating stricter crash standards and stricter rollover protection; that costs more steel and adds WEIGHT. The amazing thing is how well the manufacturers engineers have responded to maintain and sometimes improve overall performance given the extra hoops they must leap through to meet yet another government mandate. It's a plus & minus thing.

Another on is "Why do these things cost so much?" Because of: stricter emissions standards; stricter crash impact standards; required stability controls,; required ABS; environmentally friendly materials; additional safety/environment/govt misc standards at the plants; higher cost for workers; etc. For what we get at the price adjusted for inflation, we're getting a LOT more for our money than we did before even if a lot of what we get we didn't ask for.

Excellent post, and I totally agree.

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Originally Posted by wingnut

I might just be an ocd, anul pr*ck but when I get a new vehicle I want everything flawless. For the price of new vehicles, I expect nothing less.

I'm with you brother!
And for those saying nothing mad made is perfect, sure, BUT, assembly lined items should be SO close to perfectly built it's virtually immesurable.
After all we're not talking about a timber boat (for example) that is made by men's hands from scratch!