MyAdvertisingPays Review: $49.99 Ponzi investment scheme

MyAdvertisingPays (commonly abbreviated as “MAP”), launched in late 2013. The company was originally advertised as being based out of the US, but within a month of launch appears to have “relocated” to Anguilla.

A Google search on the provided corporate address reveals multiple businesses using the same address. This is typical of virtual office space.

As such, MyAvertisingPays’ being located in Anguilla appears to be in name only, indicating a lack of belief in the company’s business model will stand up to the regulatory scrutiny in the US.

Named as CEO and Founder of MyAdvertisingPays is Mike Deese (he also goes by “Michael Deese”). Deese is based out of the US state of Mississippi (where MyAdvertisingPays is actually run out of), and circa early 2013 was an affiliate of Rocket Cash Cycler:

Rocket Cash Cycler was a matrix-based pyramid scheme that charged participants $315 to join, and then paid them $5000 when enough new recruits had joined.

In the article “Get to know Mike”, posted on a marketing blog set up to promote Deese and MyAdvertisingPays, Deese hints that he’s been repeatedly burned by opportunities that have collapsed:

I would work so hard to create a reliable income and help others do the same, only to have the business shut down and take all of our collective hard work with it.

Deese doesn’t explicitly mention which businesses he was an affiliate of. In another blog post, titled “Why MyAdvertisingPays will Succeed Where Many Others Have Failed”, Deese demonstrates some knowledge of the Ponzi and pyramid scheme underbelly of the MLM industry, specifically referencing Zeek Rewards, Profitable Sunrise and Fortune High-Tech Marketing.

Whether or not Deese was an affiliate in any of those programs however, is unclear.

I was unable to find any mention of Deese running any other MLM companies, indicating that MyAdvertisingPays is his first attempt at running a company.

Read on for a full review of the MyAdvertisingPays MLM business opportunity.

The MyAdvertisingPays Product Line

MyAdvertisingPays has no retailable products or services. The company does market three “solutions” on its website, however visitors must sign up as an affiliate before they can purchase anything.

Once an affiliate has signed up, they are then able to purchase advertising credits, which can be used to display advertising on the MyAdvertisingPays website. Some of these ads are also shown to MyAdvertisingPays affiliates, who are required to view them to qualify for a daily ROI.

The MyAdvertisingPays Compensation Plan

The MyAdvertisingPays compensation plan revolves around affiliates signing up and then investing in $49.99 “credit packs”.

Each credit pack is invested in on the promise of an advertised $60 ROI. Taken from MyAdvertisingPays’ FAQ:

The cost for one Credit Pack is $49.99. This product also has a profit-sharing element attached to it. Each Credit Pack you purchase will return you $60 over time.

MyAdvertisingPays don’t guarantee a minimum daily ROI, but do specify that the amount they can pay out is determined by how much new affiliate money flows into the business:

Payouts depend on the volume of sales. At times, volume will be higher than others, so ones earnings will vary accordingly.

“Sales” of course being code for affiliate investment in credit packs.

Referral commissions are offered on credit pack investments made by recruited affiliates, paying out a 10% commission.

This is apparently extendable to 18%, however MyAdvertisingPays do not provide specific details on their website. They do however indicate that the increase is tied into the number of new investors an affiliate brings into the scheme:

All you have to do is introduce others to M.A.P.

I’ve also seen some social media talk about referral commissions being tied into membership levels:

Anyone anywhere can achieve the 10% referral commission level without paying for any Membership Levels!

This indicates the possibility of referral commissions being determined by how much a MyAdvertisingPays affiliate pays in membership fees.

Joining MyAdvertisingPays

Conclusion

Using the familiar advertising credit + Ponzi scheme business model, MyAdvertisingPays simple shuffle new affiliate money around to pay off existing investors.

The screenshot below, taken from an advertising video that plays on the MyAdvertisingPays website, spells out the Ponzi nature of the business even further:

Affiliates buy in at $49.99 a pop, are given some busybody work to do (click ads), in return for a 120% ROI ($60).

In an effort to differentiate itself from your standard Ponzi scheme, MyAdvertisingPays has come up with some baloney about a “reserve fund”:

Does M.A.P. have a reserve fund?

Yes! Aside from the initial reserve fund provided by the Company, a portion of all incoming funds are re-directed to a reserve fund ensuring level payouts continue over the long-term.

The truth of the matter is that all Ponzi schemes launch with a reserve fund, otherwise they wouldn’t be able to initially pay out the >100% ROIs all Ponzi schemes offer.

The problem is what happens when that reserve fund runs out? No matter how much money a Ponzi scheme starts with, the “paying out more money than is initially invested” business model guarantees all Ponzi schemes will run out of money sooner or later (once new investment dries up).

Mike Deese and Simon Stepsys are at the top of this ponzi and are raking in the money through referee’s My Advertising Pays (MAPS) is a scam through and through.

The numbers do not add up in regards to ad packs and how money is generated. And if any money is generated, a large sum goes to Stepsys and Deese a well as large processing fees.

Those in the ponzi scheme are completely brainwashed, due to greed and are in complete denial that this is a ponzi. What is even more scary many who have joined MAPS are former convicted internet scammers like “Stepsys” who made a lot of money through the fradualnt company called “Banners Brokers”

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned by the operator.

Operators of Ponzi schemes usually entice new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent. The perpetuation of the high returns requires an ever-increasing flow of money from new investors to sustain the scheme.

^^ from wikipedia.

Since My Advertising Pays pays its affiliates from the interest invested by the affiliate instead of coming from new members, by definition MAPs is NOT a ponzi scheme. Dave (Ozedit: spam removed)

You may need to review… MAP has grown, and is compliant, it is no ponzi scheme,, it pays not enough lol.. and it does not advocate referring, the referral program is ACTUALLY OPTIONAL!

Sales as you put it are not implied affiliate investment,only as you put it … and you know why people buy into this ??? His advertising works..;..

“Referral commissions are offered on credit pack investments made by recruited affiliates, paying out a 10% commission.”

You would not have a referral comission unless referred them to this… you do not get as in some ponzi scemes a payout for signing up… it is on their random purchase of advertising in whatever form they choose AND the ten percent will hardly break the bank

“This is apparently extendable to 18%, however MyAdvertisingPays do not provide specific details on their website. They do however indicate that the increase is tied into the number of new investors an affiliate brings into the scheme:”

I do not see that ? but please inform us.. I have sent this to Mike Deese the Admin..

For me I am building a business her not MAP But through the advertising that MAP delivers…it is like no other..

I understand why you bring scammers down.. but Mike Deese I believe has opened a great site, and has integrity, has done interviews with a few people.. perhaps you should request one to see where he is at with his program

Oz thank you for explaining why MAP is a scam. Many people know it’s an illegal ponzi (cough – Stepsys and Deese) but don’t care that they defrauding people .

And to Lorraine one thing about online posts and these sites is that when one person posts everyone believes it and runs with it….
Mike Deese is a decent human being..

I was always aware of Stepys but I have seen his training and the way he has helped so many achieve… he is not a scammer.. just duped by online programs like so many others but he was the better marketer…. the bigger name! and the well known figure for the program… who to target and to align with the actual scammer?

I could respond and say how some of the earners have no recruits at all? how do they earn …

MAP has taken some large outside advertising partnerships.. oh and there are more to come…. that is why I say you need to interview him??? and with these the revenue has increased… there is acutally no need to recruit at all if you dont want to….

Interview him…how can you say no he hasnt? I can see the outside resources happening?

Business model revenue in: defined by advertising purchases members are paid percentage daily as rebates

All new affiliate funds of course are added to the mix.. but not as in the way you are twisting it…….

it is revenue in …. advertising purchases… totally optional and members are paid a very small percentage daily as compared to other programs which of course go under very quickly….

I finish here but I see your job is not done ..

I investigate scams too for a living.. you will not know of me because I have to keep a closed profile.. but I know all about ponzis etc.. and every site that is online…. so go with that and look some further

Your comments give you no credibilty because you do not want to investigate further or have a future interview with the admin of MAP, that to me says you just take online info and make assumptions that can sometimes be dangerous.

Recruiting people into ponzis, pyramids and get-rich-quick schemes ???

I am promoting a health product and the company has won many awards , I sell on ebay and it is a very successful product line . I also promote marketing sites… this advertising would depend on the advertising I chose at the time to promote …. they have a few options….

You dug deeper than the publicly available business model presented on the MAP website?

And it is not a cookie cutter site ,it is a uniquely programmed site

I told you what I do…. and I look deeper , much more I find out more about the background,people and finances of these ..but the unique ones I look at too as there is a history there…I spend a lot of time to get what I want to find out,

And yes I always go deeper than the website itself ,that gives very little at most.

Sonny Clarkson: Your comments give you no credibilty because you do not want to investigate further or have a future interview with the admin of MAP

Your comment give you no credibility because you did not refute ANY of the facts presented as is. You simply imply there’s more to the story without explaining what. In other words, you’re just full of innuendos.

I told a friend of mine, and member of MAP, about this review of MAP and that he should go look at it. He did. Then, he made this video to refute the information posted here and then uploaded to YouTube (Ozedit: video link removed), but I don’t see a comment from him.

That’s the opening, which sounds like just another Ponzi scammer whinging. To top it off about halfway he launched into the typical bait and switch and starts spamming.

This article is based on the MAP compensation plan and business model, you can’t get any closer to the source than that. All quotes are cited, either from the MAP website itself or linked third-parties.

Anytime your friend says “I don’t know where he got that from”, that’s an admission he cannot explain the blatant Ponzi aspects of the business. It’s a strawman attempt to question the source of the article rather than to address the material itself.

Basically your “friend” really wants to push the MAP spam he’s attached to the second half of the video, using the bait and switch of pretending to address the BehindMLM review.

Feel free to address any of the concerns raised in the article, but please don’t link to poorly presented Ponzi investor videos.

We’ve heard all the excuses, nothing justifies a blatant Ponzi scheme. Your friend is just clutching at straws to try and get you on board.

Sonny Clarkson there is enough evidence out there to due diligence on Simon Stepsys, he is a convicted farudster, The UK office of fair trading have twice convicted him for selling a programme to unemployed people which didn’t exist.

He is currently being sued for fraud for selling illgal panels in the Banners Broker Ponzi scheme/ Sonny, you are brainwashed and you will end up worse off if you continue to invest in this company .

Either by participating in our referral program (see referral program below) or through profit-sharing by purchasing one or more Credit Packs.

For each one you purchase, you will be qualified for one share-in-profits.

For every active Credit Pack you have, you will receive that many shares-in-profit, every 20 minutes. So if you buy two Credit Packs, you will earn two shares-in-profit every 20 minutes, buy 10, you will get 10 shares-in-profit every 20 minutes, etc. until each Credit Pack(s) has earned $60 in return.

You must click on 10 ads daily in our Traffic Exchange to qualify for profit-shares that day.

I just purchased one or more Credit Packs and I am seeing little to no profit-share earnings in my account!

First of all make sure you have clicked 10 ads within the Traffic Exchange.

Second, if you just made your purchase today, your profit-share earnings should increase the following day after 12PM Eastern.

Thirdly, make sure your are either in your 30-day free trial period OR have at least Basic membership after the free-trial.

Lastly, many factors are taken into account, which determines the payout schedule, which vary’s daily. Unless you are not earning anything (and have checked for the above), then everything is running normally.

Now divide $60.00 by .26 per day (assumes my profit share will return to the average of my first 18 days – but no guarantee!)and it will take 230-231 days just to earn $60 (Max payout per Click Pack), and I am still out 20.49.

In actual fact I only net about $4.50 on my Credit pack, but that does not account for processing fees to get payment, which if the same as the fees to purchase would mean I lose $1 on the Credit Pack plus $24.99 on my membership cost.

At the end of 231 days I need to shell out another 55.50 for another Credit pack to keep earning, then of course at the end of 365 days I have to renew my basic membership for another 24.99.

The only way to (maybe) make money with this program is to sucker in all your friends and family and earn referral commission. How much are you prepared to spend getting referrals?

MAP is a Ponzi scheme through and through! It relies on new money coming in to pay members the profit share. Where else does the profit share come from?

Who in their right mind pays for banners when you get them for free when your a member? the only money comes from re-purchasing (compounding is frowned upon even though they put a quote from Einstein in their sleezy presentations) and membership fees.

Apparently Mike Deese has a corporate sponsor that brings in a significant amount but doesn’t say who it is? Massive red flag!!!

1)if a company pumped a ton of money in your company then surely they will want big advertising space right?

2)No company exists in the first place! That is probably the reason he doesn’t say.

Mike himself is probably a fall guy for whoever really set up MAP. My suspicions are around Mark Ghobril and think he is heavily involved somewhere.

Tony Booth who is an executive lies about his past. Says that for 25 years he has been successful in bricks and mortar. A quick 30 minutes on google tells a very different story.

Truth is these scammers can’t hide from their pasts and soon the truth about MAP will be exposed and shut down!

I am a member of MAPS and I invested $800 into it since January 2014 and have only one refferral under me which I have received $800 in commissions from. So let me do some sums below…

I have withdrawn $2000 from MAPS and so my profit is around $1200.

It is a scam, a Ponzi scheme, a pyrimed scheme and on and on people rant. I see and read this all the time in forum and on review websites from people coming up with assumptions about maps without joining first to see and experience if it really does make money or not. My experience is it is a very simple way to make money from clicking just 10 ads a day.

My experience from joining is I cannot fault the program or the company beaucse they are delivering on their promise by paying me every 20 minutes.

Will it last in the long run? I do not know, but all I know is I am in profit and making money while the sunshines.

Referring to C. Terry’s post that the sums do not add up…. They do add up if you buy 10 or more credit packs because you will be in profit quicker.

It would work with one credit pack as well but it would take a long time to recoup your money back and move into profit, but that would only happen if you kept buying more credit packs from the profit because on one pack you would only make a $60 return.

Just look at the bigger picture, for example in a bank the interest on $50 is not as much as it would be on $500.

I see and read this all the time in forum and on review websites from people coming up with assumptions about maps without joining

You don’t need to join a Ponzi scheme to identify one. MAPS is a Ponzi scheme based on its business model (compensation plan), whether people join it and where “it makes money” is neither here nor there.

All Ponzi schemes pay out until new investor funds dry up, then they go kaboom.

I was always aware Oz there was a chance it might fail one day if people stopped putting money in but I still took a chance on it and so far it has worked out as quite a good little investment, but like I say I have no idea how long it will last and if it does fail one day then I would still have made money.

So really I am not over worried about it going, but would rather it stayed and carried on making me money of course.

Littleroundman I am not trying to rip anyone off and would rather MAPS never went under and the way it is currently going I cannot see this happening anytime soon, with MAPS going from strength to strength with over 80,000 members (all the ones who are buying credit packs are all making money).

My credit packs are making me more money at a faster rate now than they did when I first joined in January 2014.

On the 13th December 2013 MAPS was launched and on the 13th December 2014 it was a year old and it would not surprise me if it was still here on the 13th December 2015.

I am still positive about MAPS and making money every 20 minutes while others stand back with caution. “The Proof is in the pudding with some people in MAPS making $100’s per day”.

The problem Is people are very quick to put MAPS down as some kind of scam without hard proof or evidence. I am living proof that MAPS makes money along with 1000”s of others members.

The problem Is people are very quick to put MAPS down as some kind of scam without hard proof or evidence. I am living proof that MAPS makes money along with 1000”s of others members—silkywizard

making money in a ponzi!! unheard of! MAPS must be the uniquest idea to hit planet earth since the last meteor!

silkywizard, instead of being silly, read the review of MAPS above, and convince everybody that it is not a ponzi. don’t brag about the money you make, that is MORE proof of a ‘fraud’ than anything else.

If we forget the rest of the nonsensical ponzi players rationalizing and justifying you’re trying to introduce into the situation, Oz explained the truth of the matter clearly in the first post of this thread:

The truth of the matter is that all Ponzi schemes launch with a reserve fund, otherwise they wouldn’t be able to initially pay out the >100% ROIs all Ponzi schemes offer.

The problem is what happens when that reserve fund runs out?

No matter how much money a Ponzi scheme starts with, the “paying out more money than is initially invested” business model guarantees all Ponzi schemes will run out of money sooner or later (once new investment dries up).

What happens then?

Kaboom!

Today, tomorrow, this week, next month ??? Who knows. But, rest assured, it WILL happen

In the meantime, you ARE stealing from the pockets of those who joined after you.

Silkywizard:
(all the ones who are buying credit packs are all making money) and my credit packs are making me more money at a faster rate now than they did when I first joined in January 2014.

I don’t think we’re talking about the same thing here?

MONEY is normally something we can use directly to buy goods or services in a normal market (buy groceries, pay bills, etc.). If stored electronically, it will be stored in a bank account.

You’re talking about something that is electronically “paid out” and stored in a back office (not a bank account), something that cannot be used directly to purchase goods or services in a normal market, it can only be used to buy “Credit Packs”?

Forget withdrawals for a while. Withdrawals will of course require real money. But the “money” you were talking about there seemed to be more similar to monopoly money than to real money?

M_Norway…. It is not monopoly money or electronic money, I am talking about REAL money because so far I have withdrawn money directly into my bank account which is more than I have put in. Also there is a product and that is called advertising, I will explain more about that below.

I honestly do not see myself as stealing from others, I see it as an investment where I am making money from the profit earned by the operator/MAPS which is shared out to the members who have bought advertising credit packs.

All MAPS profits come from the advertising they sell. All the credit packs bought give you advertising space and you can also pay extra money if you wish, for example banner adverting which goes towards the profit which is also shared out among it’s members.

I am very aware and not blinded to the fact if the members of MAPS stop buying advertising space it will go bust. This is no different to any other company who sell advertising space.

MAPS has 80,000+ members and growing, so I can not see the company closing down anytime soon, which is good news as it is a great adverting platform.

A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned by the operator”.

To sum up “MAPS is not a Ponzi set up because it is offering a genuine product which is adverting and then sharing the profits made from the sale of their adverting with it’s members.

Finally I would request you control your anger towards me and refrain from call me names like moron and making accusation that I am being silly just because I disagree with you about MAPS being a Ponzi company.

Silkywizard:
M_Norway…. It is not monopoly money or electronic money, I am talking about REAL money because so far I have withdrawn money directly into my bank account which is more than I have put in. Also there is a product and that is called advertising, I will explain more about that below.

You have withdrawn money DIRECTLY from the back office into you own bank account?

You didn’t need to send a “withdrawal request” to MAP first, and then have to wait some time before the money was transferred to an e-wallet / sent to your bank account?

If you can withdraw money DIRECTLY (without any type of “withdrawal request”), then you can also use your back office to pay your ordinary bills, e.g. utility bills.

If you cannot pay anything DIRECTLY (anything outside the system itself), then you’re not talking about real money. Real money can be used DIRECTLY to pay bills, transfer to other bank accounts, be withdrawn as cash from an ATM. You won’t need to send “withdrawal requests” to a third party first.

Monopoly money can be used inside the game of monopoly to pay for different “valuables”. They will be worthless outside that game, i.e. when the game ends.

Neither the grocery store nor the bank will accept that type of “money”. But PEOPLE may accept it as “real money” if they don’t know the exact difference. You can easily trick people to believe it’s real money, e.g. by replacing it with real money when people request withdrawals.

Silkywizard:
All MAPS profits come from the advertising they sell. All the credit packs bought give you advertising space and you can also pay extra money if you wish, for example banner adverting which goes towards the profit which is also shared out among it’s members.

If all the profit comes from advertising, why do they need money from you and other investors?

Silkywizard:
M_Norway…. It is not monopoly money or electronic money, I am talking about REAL money because so far I have withdrawn money directly into my bank account which is more than I have put in.

To make it simpler …
* MAP isn’t a bank
* Your back office isn’t a bank account

If you receive something to your back office as a “payout”, you can be pretty sure it isn’t real money. It can be a PROMISE to pay you an amount of money if you send a “withdrawal request”.

Real money won’t need any “withdrawal requests” before it can be used to pay for something. You can always use it DIRECTLY to pay for goods or to pay bills.

Monopoly money won’t need “withdrawal requests” either, you can use it DIRECTLY inside a game, but only inside the game. If payouts CAN be used directly inside a system but CANNOT be used directly outside the system, you can be pretty sure it’s a type of monopoly money.

Really? Where? If this is true (which it’s not) why aren’t walmart, lowes, home depot, sears, etc. advertising there and reaping the money also? ASD and Banners broker all made the same claims and they are lies.

Where can we, the general public, see these ads on the web (without joining this scam)?

Then the “money” in your back office is a type of monopoly money. You can reinvest it DIRECTLY and buy more worthless “Credit Packs”. That will prevent you from withdrawing too much real money too early, and prevent MAP from running out of money too early.

It will also give the investors the FEELING of earning money, the FEELING of being paid each day or week. It will keep many of the investors happy for a long time, without costing anything substantial.

Silkywizard:
When the money arrives at Solid Trust Pay I can then withdrawal the money to my bank account.

With VX Gatewway once the money arrives I can request the money to go into my paypal account or to my bank account.

When stored in e-wallets, the money still can’t be used DIRECTLY to pay bills. It can be used to load a debit card, or it can be requested transferred to other payment processors, or it can be requested transferred to a bank account, or it can be requested sent as a check.

So third party e-wallets do indirectly hold money. The money isn’t in your possession yet, but you can request to get it paid to where you want without asking MAP first. It means the third party e-wallets are different from your back office, but they’re not bank accounts.

Silkywizard:
So you are right, MAPS is not a bank and yes the money is not mine until it is in my bank account.

But how do they make a profit when people are using monopoly money to pay for “Credit Packs”? That can’t be very profitable for a business? 🙂

It will make the monopoly money LOOK more like real money and FEEL more like real money. It will also prevent people from withdrawing too much real money too early. But it can’t be very profitable for the business?

Silkywizard:
By the way once I request the money from MAPS it can go throught straight away and sometimes it might take a few hours. So the pay out is relatively fast.

I don’t use e-wallets, so I don’t know what’s normal time either. Some programs can have 2 or 3 weeks delay, some can have weekly withdrawals, some can have hourly withdrawals, etc., and they all can be normal.

The purpose of delaying withdrawals is to make sure enough money is coming IN first before paying anything OUT. So you should watch out for changes.

I have already explained this and have said I’m making more money from each credit pack faster now than I did when I first started. This is because there are 80,000+ members in MAPS and it does not take much maths to work out why this would be bringing in a lot of money from members buying advertising credit packs and banner advertising.

So unless you are a member your comment “Their ROI liabilities aren’t getting any smaller”. is something you cannot possibly know as a 100% fact. My experience is telling me a totally differently story and that is the money being earned is on the increase.

Oz – The issue here is the offering of unregistered securities, which MAPS very much are guilty of.

I am not sure why you think they are offering securities because MAPS are selling advertising space and not securities.

M_Norway – buy more worthless “Credit Packs”.

This is the problem when someone does not join MAPS and thinks they know all the facts. In this case it has lead you to think something is worthless without knowing or having the true facts at hand, like I do.

Now let me explain the credit packs are used to advertise any business opportunity you wish. The reason why it works so well when advertising on the MAPS website is because you are advertising to like mined business opportunity seekers.

No different to advertising a new cat toy in a cat magazine. The reason for advertising in that magazine would be because it would be the right audience.

M_Norway – Money goes into my available balance on my MAPS account. That money is available to me to send my Solid Trust or VX Gateway.

N-Norway – The purpose of delaying withdrawals is to make sure enough money is coming IN first before paying anything OUT. So you should watch out for changes.

MAPS have never taken any longer than a few hours to pay out from my available balance. So no, I do not believe they are holding onto any money before paying out.

Yes there can be delays with PayPal and Solid Trust because if you are a new customer and for their protection they can withhold money for 48 hours or even 2 weeks sometime, but this is normally what PayPal do to new customers, but it seems Solid Trust Pay do not do this.

I honestly do not see myself as stealing from others, I see it as an 1] investment where I am 2] making money from the profit earned by the operator/MAPS which is 3] shared out to the members who have bought advertising credit packs—silkywizard

you have yourself described an investment contract, which is a security. MAPS is not registered with the SEC to sell securities. this is fraud 1.

the credit packs you buy are bunkum products which are not generating any income from advertisement. all the money in MAPS is from new investors . this is a ponzi and this is fraud 2.

if you’ve reached 80,000 members then your’e ripe to be noticed by the regulators, or ripe to go bust.

This is the problem when someone does not join MAPS and thinks they know all the facts. In this case it has lead you to think something is worthless without knowing or having the true facts at hand, like I do.

I was talking about the VALUE in a normal market, not the PRICE you have paid for the “Credit Packs”. The “Credit Packs” are only “worth” something inside the system itself, where people are buying them because of the prospected ROI.

Or do you seriously buy them because of your own desire to own them, use them, consume them, play with them, look at them, give them away as presents, etc.? 🙂

I estimated the value to be “worthless” in a normal market. They cost almost nothing to produce, and have a very limited function for people in general.

silkywizard:
Now let me explain the credit packs are used to advertise any business opportunity you wish. The reason why it works so well when advertising on the MAPS website is because you are advertising to like mined business opportunity seekers.

The only ones bringing in any fresh money from the outside will be the new investors?
* You buy ads, but you don’t pay with real money?
* You click on ads, but you don’t pay for that either?

New investors will pay real money IN as an initial investment. e.g. $500
* They will get worthless “Credit Packs”, e.g. 10 units.
* “Credit Packs” will pay a ROI after some time, e.g. µ$600
* Monopoly money can be reinvested, e.g. 12 units
* New “Credit Packs” will pay a ROI, e.g. µ$720
* Monopoly money can be reinvested, e.g. 14 units
* New “Credit Packs” will pay a ROI, e.g. µ$864
* Monopoly money can be reinvested, e.g. 17 units

(µ$ = currency symbol for monopoly money)

The system described there doesn’t need any real money to work. It will only need real money coming IN from new investors to support withdrawals for the old ones.

People will FEEL they’re earning money, FEEL that their investments are growing. So the system is primarily designed to keep inexperienced investors happy, while the company can keep their money for as long as possible.

I have decided this will be my last contribution to this article on My Advertising Pays.

MAPS does not need to be regulated by the SEC because it does not hold money to be invested on behalf of it’s members or clients.

MAPS shares out its profits and does not give interest on the money they have or invest any of the money it brings in, into stocks, shares, bonds and so on in order to make a profit for the members of MAPS. Unless it does that it does not have to be a regulated by the SEC.

Please read the SEC website for further clarification.

Ponzi companies are illegal and if MAPS was a Ponzi company it would be closed down by now but as already explained they share the profits of the company out so this does not classify them as a Ponzi company and any investigation from the authorities would clear them from any wrong doing.

M_Norway – Again as I have said they are not worthless advertising products on the MAPS website because people in MAPS use them to promote their business opportunities and the report backs from the members are they are having a good success rate from the advertising.

To me worthless means useless and this is far from useless advertising if you are getting sales from the advertising like I have.

* You buy ads, but you don’t pay with real money?

Yes you do pay for ads and the money comes from your adverting profits and money put into MAPS from your Solid Trust Account or VX Gateway account.

* You click on ads, but you don’t pay for that either?

Yes you do as explained above.

MONOPOLY MONEY??? – I think you are missing the point because when I receive my share of the profits it goes into my available money and this money can be used to buy more adverting or can be withdrawn into my Solid Trust Pay or VX Gateway account. This means it is real money because you can withdraw it or spend it on more advertising.

OZ – You are investing in unregistered securities and stealing funds from those who join and invest after you.

As explained above MAPS does not have or own any unregistered securities because it does not hold money to be invested on behalf of it’s members or clients.

For further clarification on the above paragraph please take a look on the SEC website where it explains it all in great detail.

Again as I keep repeating I make my money from the profits and not from stealing money from other members coming in after me.

“Advertising businesses” do not pay cash ROIs to their customers. –

Yes that is correct and that is because they keep their profits instead of sharing them out. MAPS is an advertising business which does share out the profits instead of keeping it.

Yes I do buy advertising and as explained above, – I pay for my advertising from my adverting profits or money from my Solid Trust account or VX Gateway account.

Please do not take my word for it, go and read about it on the SEC website about what “unregistered securities” are because if you did your research like I did, you would know that MAPS is not selling any unregistered securities.

Finally I would like to thank you all for this debate which I have enjoyed being involved in, even if we clearly have not agree on most points.

MAPS shares out its profits and does not give interest on the money they have or invest any of the money it brings in, into stocks, shares, bonds and so on in order to make a profit for the members of MAPS. Unless it does that it does not have to be a regulated by the SEC—silkywizard

silkywizard:
I have decided this will be my last contribution to this article on My Advertising Pays.

That’s probably a good idea. 🙂

silkywizard:
M_Norway – Again as I have said they are not worthless advertising products on the MAPS website because people in MAPS use them to promote their business opportunities and the report backs from the members are they are having a good success rate from the advertising.

The advertisers don’t pay for the “Credit packs” with real money. They pay DIRECTLY from the back office (except for the initial purchase). And the back office doesn’t hold any money?

The only ones paying for them are the participants themselves. So the total amount of money MAPS can pay OUT (withdrawals) will be limited to the amount the investors have brought IN themselves from the outside.

silkywizard:
Whip – If you go onto the MAPS website you will see banner ads which the general public can click on.

And you neglected to answer the rest of the question. ‘Closed loop advertising’ is not advertising.

And I have yet to see any legitimate business have an issue with paypal. scammers don’t want to link a bank account to become ‘verified’ by paypal due to their illegal activities. It’s just that simple.

silkywizard:
MONOPOLY MONEY??? – I think you are missing the point because when I receive my share of the profits it goes into my available money and this money can be used to buy more adverting or can be withdrawn into my Solid Trust Pay or VX Gateway account.

This means it is real money because you can withdraw it or spend it on more advertising.

I called it “monopoly money” because most people know how it works. It’s a type of money you can use inside a game only. You can’t use it to pay for groceries or pay bills.

Since the back office isn’t a bank account, it can’t be used for real monetary transactions. It means most of the internal transactrions must be about monopoly transactions.

These are all false and liable comments. I know very well Simon Stepsys. In fact many years ago Simon Stepsys recommended me a business online when he could not get the answers from the owner of the company, Simon told me to request a refund from the company. I did and I got my money back, other people believed in the company and they lost their money.

Simon Stepsys is a honest man with a son and a partner. Simon would not sponsor if he does not believe in the company. Simon is not responsible on Banners Brokers failure.

I just want to remind people, anyone can get scammed even in a job. If people are dishonest, they can deceive you. Simon Stepsys and myself are honest people who want to help people to succeed.

Bottomline… everything in life is a gamble. We venture into anything that promises good fortune. We rise and fall but get back up and move on with life. We deal with failures like humans fighting for survival every moment of our lives.

Right from the beginning of this article – improper and shallow view being made missing out crutial infomation I quote “MyAdvertisingPays has no retailable products or services. ” you have NOT looked in the quality traffic being sold here, just like google/yahoo/bing all sell traffic, this is a marketable product. enough said.

Having been with the site for about 5 months now I have come to the conclusion its a scam. The advertising is garbage, I have spent the equivalent of thousands of dollars on the “advertising” and while i have made a couple of sales, it is largely ineffective.

All you have to do is take one look at the home page and ask yourself “Is this site selling enough banner ads and guaranteed visitors to cover the over one million dollars it has paid out to members in the last year”

The only possible answer is no freaking way. I have not seen one legit business advertising the entire time i have been using it, its just scams within scams. The only way this works is new investor money is being used to pay out that scum bag Simon Stepsys and all the other old investors.

If you are involved in this i would suggest you get your money out now while you still can.

Everyone in the system is repurchasing til they max out the credit packs at 1200.

The quest to get to 1200 credit packs is constantly being rammed down your throat so you will keep your money in the system, even though the vast majority of people will never get there.

Yes the only way to make real money in this is to get referal commissions. As for the auto-purchase feature it is my understanding that this hasnt been working, however i may be wrong, and i am sure as hell not going to buy another credit pack to find out.

Though not charged as a defendant, the emerging “MyAdvertisingPays” (MAPS) scheme is referenced in a proposed class-action lawsuit filed against multiple TelexFree figures and financial vendors in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York in December 2014.

Because both New York’s Southern District and Eastern District are key centers of prosecutions against U.S. financial fraudsters, the proposed TelexFree class-action — now transferred to Massachusetts federal court — leads to questions about whether other “programs” such as MAPS could become the subjects of prosecutions.

Paolo: Simon Stepsys is a honest man with a son and a partner. Simon would not sponsor if he does not believe in the company. Simon is not responsible on Banners Brokers failure.

yeah right, simon stepsys, is such an honest man, that he got an ‘honorable mention’ in none less than the British Parliament itself.

as far back as 2001, when stepsys was still immersed in ponzi scams, this is what a parliament member said on record:

As my hon. Friend the Member for Northfield said, many people just see themselves as mugs and feel that they were stupid to be taken in.

John Logan, who was caught by one of the many scams of Simon Stepsys of Win-Star Direct in Cheshire–who, having been caught out by the Office of Fair Trading, had to make a “voluntary” statement that he would not continue his scams..

last year, in 2104, a facebook page dedicated to the banners broker scam, had asked net losers to contact the ‘office of fair trading’ in the UK, as they had promised to look into stepsys activities again, if they received complaints.

there are already FB complaints that MAPS may be on the downturn. this is as good an opportunity, as any other, to contact the fair trading office.

remember the public has a very loud voice today, due to the the internet and access to information, a few complaints is all it takes to pull down these scammers, who have been at it for decades.

look at achievecommunity, worldwidesolutionz, bringhomethebacon, in recent times, these ponzis have been brought down, in part due to complaints by just a few people.

nothing scares ponzi scammers more than threatening to complain to the authorities!

i hope i’m not spamming but i’m just finding such a goldmine of information about MAPS which can help people like paulo, who seem to be smitten by simon stepsys and MAPS.

there is an FB page dedicated to exposing the MAPS fraud which is specifically targeting simon stepsys: facebook.com/pages/My-Advertising-Pays-Scam/788704724492200?fref=ts

We are actively targeting Simon Stepsys aka Simon Baxter aka Simon McMate as he is a serial career internet fraudster who thinks he is UNTOUCHABLE by the police and legal authorities for his illegal money laundering activities.

If you wish to report Simon Stepsys, please use this email address and this case reference:

(Ozedit: removed)
Case number: 202835394

in 1999, a british high court passed an injunction against stepsys, ordering him not to participate or promote fraud schemes. this seems to have had minimal impact on mr stepsys, who is all over youtube promoting MAPS:

COURT HALTS MISLEADING HOMEWORKING ADS :

Mr Stepsys continued to promote and operate a number of homeworking schemes despite giving undertakings to the Director General, in August last year, that he would stop the publication and dissemination of misleading advertisements.

Todays injunction restrains Mr Stepsys from making false or misleading claims regarding working from home schemes …

MAP Winner:
i do withdraw immediately and as fast as i buy more CP. i do not see electronic money transfer any problem.

It will only become a problem when you don’t withdraw payouts, but reinvest “back office payouts” directly into some new “investment units” of any type.

Many people don’t know the difference between a back office, internal ewallets, external third party ewallets and bank accounts. Only the last one will contain any money (electronic money or credit).

MAP Winner:
i have seen popular companies being advertised internationally. Apple, Five Guys and many notable american ads are shown. i see strange but popular foreign companies being posted.

You see those ads being posted, but do those companies pay MAP anything for it?

MAP Winner:
the loop ads (MAP subscriber posting their own) does not generate money (stupid) makes people think it is ponzi.

You have realized that. “Internal ads won’t generate any income or profit for the company”.

Will those external “interational companies” ads generate any income or profit for MAP? Those ads can be fake, can’t they?

Clicking on 10 ads per day won’t generate any profit in itself. MAP will need to have someone paying for that exposure. Currently the only ones paying money in to MAP are the affiliates themselves purchasing advertising credits.

MAP Winner:
i do earn money by posting popular companies and see huge rewards. it is win-win for everyone.

Do you contact those companies first to get an agreement about payment for those ads? Or do you simply send them a bill afterwards, e.g. “I have generated 1,000 clicks on one of your ads, please send me a huge amount of money”.

Profit will usually come from a payment. Clicking ads won’t generate any profit if nobody pays for it.

I hope MAPS publish real accounts or some verified stats at least to show money from external advertisers. I know adhitz paying maybe $100 per day but when u consider ss drawing out thousands per day (on his EIGHTEEN PERCENT REFERRAL COMMISSION) its hard to see maths adding up.

MAPwinner you are NOT seeing ads on the traffic exchange from external advertisers as you need credit packs to post these and I can tell you apple or any company is buying credit packs.

When you see ads for a big company it will be someone affiliated with that company wanting referral commission if u buy.

Lets just admit it, maps is a ponzi, get in early and cash out, its a game play it like one.

anjali: simon stepsys is on a roll these days with MAPS. time to stalk him!

well, there’s already an FB group stalking simon stepsys pretty professionally and causing ‘torturous interference’ in his ponzi day to day life 🙂

this was reported on june 18, 2015:

My Advertising Pays – Scam June 18

Great news tonight! A complaint was made to The Advertising Standards Authority about Simon Stepsys and his misleading advertisements.

I am delighted to tell you that the complaint has been UPHELD:

‘The recommendation is that your complaint is UPHELD. Simon Stepsys’s ads must not appear in their current form, earnings claims cannot be made unless they can be substantiated, and he cannot claim selling is not involved if that is not the case…’

The next stage in the process is that the case will be heard by the Advertising Standards Council. We’ll keep you posted of all future developments.

Great news tonight! A complaint was made to The Advertising Standards Authority about Simon Stepsys and his misleading advertisements.

this is the ASA ruling:

Summary of Council decision:

Two issues were investigated, both of which were Upheld.

Simon Stepsys Success International Ltd said the ads were designed to generate interest in an affiliate programme, and that there was no personal selling required to make money.

They said that the My Advertising Pays (MAP) programme shared its profits every 20 minutes with all members who had purchased a ‘Credit Pack’ and clicked on ten sites in the MAP Traffic Exchange.

Each Credit Pack qualified members for a share in the profits. Members had to click on ten ads each day in the Traffic Exchange to qualify for profit-shares that day.

They said that consumers did not have to purchase credit packs, nor recruit or sponsor others to earn. They told us that they would remove the ads.

The ads must not appear again in their current form. We told Simon Stepsys Success International Ltd to ensure that they did not make earnings claims unless they could be substantiated, and not to claim that selling was not involved in an opportunity if that was not the case.

now, obviously simon stepsys is the owner of ‘simon stepsys success international’, and this is what his FB page says 13 hrs ago. he has taken the ASA’s suggestions to heart and is now blatantly asking people to buy more packs and refer more people :

Map hits record high of over 70 MILLION hits per month!
Over 1,000+ withdrawals per DAY!
Just shy of 170,000 ADDICTED members!!
On track to hit 300,000+ members by the end of this year!
On track to hit ONE MILLION+ members within the next 18 months!
On track to hit ONE BILLION DOLLARS IN SALES within the next 18 months!!!
THIS IS JUST THE START!
BUY MORE!!!
REFER MORE!!!
FOCUS 1200 1200 1200

fat lot of good the ASA ruling achieved!!

complaints should be made to the UK securities regulators, and not toothless ASA.

1. Upheld
The ASA noted that a number of claims in the ads suggested that significant amounts of money could be made. For example, “Internet MILLIONAIRE Reveals Secrets for FREE”, and the web address “www. g********.com” in ad (a) and “Start Living The Life You’ve Always Dreamed Of” in ad (b). In addition, ad (b) “guaranteed” that consumers would make money, and stated that it was impossible not to do so. Ads (b) and (c) both included claims that consumers would get paid every 20 minutes, and 72 times a day, and we considered that those claims, as well as claims such as “If you can click a mouse you can make money” in ad (b) suggested that money could be made easily.

The ASA begins an investigation by contacting the advertiser for its views on the advertisement and, where appropriate, substantiation of claims made in it. The ASA may on occasion seek advice from industry experts on more complex issues.

Once the investigation is complete, a draft recommendation is sent to both the advertiser and the original complainant for any comments, with a request to keep this confidential until publication of the final report.

The draft recommendation is then submitted to the independent Advertising Standards Authority Council, which adjudicates on ASA investigations.

The ASA Council then discusses the complaint and the draft recommendation, and votes on whether to uphold the complaint or not.

The adjudication in full is subsequently posted on the ASA’s website, and made available to the press and the general public.

i think what you found on ‘MyAdvertingPays – Scam’, may be a part of the ‘complaint’ made to ASA.

anjali: stepsys has registered a new company in june 2015, and may have some fresh ponzi plans afoot

stepsys is so uber cunning that he has not only registered a new company called Master Key Associates Ltd, but has moved to ‘strike off’ or dissolve his old company ‘simon stepsys success international’.

this is because ASA ordered ‘simon stepsys success international’ to refrain from false advertisement, about MAPS being a source of easy money, where people could earn without investing or referring.

since stepsys wants to continue his lying thieving ways, he will just do so on his new company website.

Jon Walsh, co-founder of One Central Point, an international advertising agency, said: “Members have to click on other members’ ‘ads’ to earn their money. It seems to be a get-rich-quick scheme that relies on other people buying in to keep going.”

Damian Ryan, co-author of Understanding Digital Marketing, said: “To me, Map appears to be a Ponzi scheme that has managed to slip under the regulators’ radar. I went to a Map event some time ago and it seemed to be a pseudo-religious experience for many of the people there.”

The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) says some of the claims made about Map and the profits that people can make are “misleading”.

let the hilarity ensue. How many will have the balls to go after deese to get their money back? his 6 month excuse gives them plenty of time to run. They allegedly ‘make so much money advertising’ there should be plenty to settle up right now.

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