Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexed/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxI saw Bob Sutor's post last week titled " There is humor in the OOXML morass ." This is where he calls out comments from Nick Tsilas as worthy of "a good laugh." I interpreted Bob's post as an attempt by IBM to deny that they are leading the charge againstGray Knowlton&#39;s blog on Microsoft Office7.x ProductionRE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxTue, 11 Mar 2008 04:59:51 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88GrayKnowlton0<p>Hi Peter,</p>
<p>I do have a lot of better things to do, but unfortunately there's this problem of gross factual error being spread about my products / company and Open XML that warrant coorrection. </p>
<p>Add another minute to your total.</p>
<img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxTue, 11 Mar 2008 04:52:28 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88Anonymous0<p>Despite your claim to contrary &quot;I have more to do than criticize Rob Weir&quot; you obviously haven't got anything better to do! &nbsp;So who payed you to do this?</p>
<p>20 minutes of my life wasted. </p><img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxTue, 11 Mar 2008 03:51:13 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88Anonymous0<p>Patrick Durusau has picked up on a thread that I regard as somewhat important (and underplayed) in the</p>
<img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxSat, 16 Feb 2008 14:35:49 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88Anonymous0<p>How does Rob's pointing out that a feature clearly required to accurately format the output for a document should be defined in a format standard negate his position that saving the last view or print settings for a specific application need not be? </p><img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxThu, 14 Feb 2008 14:29:46 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88GrayKnowlton0<p>Heh, Viralta, it took me about 15 minutes of actual writing time, most posts don't take much more than that; the linking and fact-checking can consume a few cycles though. The reading, of couse, takes a bit, especially when the material is as confused as this. The reading part took me about 2 years. </p>
<img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxThu, 14 Feb 2008 12:19:40 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88viralta0<P>How long did it take you to write this post? &nbsp;I'm impressed!</P><img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxWed, 13 Feb 2008 05:01:57 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88Anonymous0<p>Rob Weir is apparently offended that someone would suggest that ODF is controlled by a single vendor,</p>
<img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxFri, 08 Feb 2008 20:23:01 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88Anonymous0<p>&#191;Os imagin&#225;is que OpenXML fuera tremendamente eficaz? &#191;Os imagin&#225;is que cualquiera pudiera tener la capacidad</p>
<img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxThu, 07 Feb 2008 12:28:57 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88Anonymous0<p>Given my remarks about the current chair of the OASIS ODF TC , I thought I'd round out my ODF related</p>
<img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxThu, 07 Feb 2008 02:53:59 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88Anonymous0<p>I was a bit surprised to see the news recently that Open Forum Europe is working with some large US-based</p>
<img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxWed, 06 Feb 2008 10:57:53 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88Anonymous0<P>Rob Weir said:</P>
<P>"Outside of Microsoft, no one really reads my blog anyways".</P>
<P>I think you are wrong about your audience. I'm not employed by Microsoft and I read your blog frequently to try to find some interesting information about ODF. The problem is that I can &nbsp;only find "information" about OOXML. I even tried to ask you some questions about Lotus Symphony, ODF and interoperability but it seems like my questions got lost in cyberspace. Or did you by any chance delete them?</P><img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxWed, 06 Feb 2008 07:24:03 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88GrayKnowlton0<img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxWed, 06 Feb 2008 04:26:02 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88Anonymous0
<p>Re: &nbsp;OXML Policy Positions</p>
<p>Hi Gray - I'm the Microsoft employee referenced in Bob's blog. If your readers want to find out more about Microsoft’s OXML policy positions please go to
<a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.microsoft.com/office/openxmlpolicy">
http://www.microsoft.com/office/openxmlpolicy</a> or <a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.openxmlcommunity.org/">
http://www.openxmlcommunity.org/</a> </p>
<p>At the end of the day this is and should continue to be all about choice and empowering users. &nbsp;Choice to pick the best standard that meets their needs. &nbsp;People should really question any entity that is advocating anything that would limit their choice and
ultimately competition and innovation.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp?file=/2008/1/31/itfeature/20157380&amp;sec=itfeature">http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp?file=/2008/1/31/itfeature/20157380&amp;sec=itfeature</a>
</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Nicos Tsilas</p>
<img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxWed, 06 Feb 2008 03:57:34 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88GrayKnowlton0<p>This just in... Rob Weir opposes Open XML... Not news really. I was just surprised to see the difference between what you and Bob are saying.</p>
<p>I noted the OpenDocument.xml.org page, it is very similar in kind to <a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://www.openxmlcommunity.org">http://www.openxmlcommunity.org</a>, both are great places to gauge the amount of activity underway 'in the wild' with the two formats.</p>
<img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxWed, 06 Feb 2008 03:22:36 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88Anonymous0<P>Thanks for the link Gray. &nbsp;It is always good to hear from a fan. &nbsp;Did you just figure out that I oppose OOXML? &nbsp;</P>
<P>As for ODF promotion, I'm trying hard to steer ODF-related content to the ODF Adoption TC's site at <A href="http://opendocument.xml.org/" target=_new rel=nofollow>http://opendocument.xml.org</A> or to the ODF Alliance rather than my personal blog. &nbsp;It's a community thing. &nbsp;Outside of Microsoft, no one really reads my blog anyways. </P><img src="http://blogs.technet.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=2826751&AppID=6117&AppType=Weblog&ContentType=0" width="1" height="1">RE: Got FUD? Here’s a guide for the perplexedhttp://blogs.technet.com/b/gray_knowlton/archive/2008/02/04/got-fud-here-s-a-guide-for-the-perplexed.aspxTue, 05 Feb 2008 11:09:15 GMTd5e57398-b9ef-4490-9955-07cbb4e4a80d:24bfdbd1-ce6b-4e1c-b51d-364e78a84b88Anonymous0<p>PingBack from <a rel="nofollow" target="_new" href="http://claim-blog.freedombloghost.info/?p=11250">http://claim-blog.freedombloghost.info/?p=11250</a></p>
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