I'm not advocating, just inquiring. Does he have a chance? We all wrote off Herman Cain in the early days, then he surged. Will Santorum surge? I like him a lot, but I'm realistic. So, what do you all think?

Lost his home state of Pennsylvania by like 18 points last time around. It really undermines his claim that he can win PA and rust belt states. He also just doesn’t come across well. I can’t put my finger on it, but I guess he just seems too uptight and not very presidential. Finally, Santorum is sort of known as big on social issues and this election will likely be far more about the economy.

Santorum is a good man, but I don’t think he is going to see a poll boomlet like Cain and Gingrich have. Actually, I’d be thrilled to have either Santorum or Bachmann is President, but I really don’t think they have any chance. For whatever reason, they just don’t project the presidential image I guess people are looking for.

Santorum is not my first choice for president. But my first 50 choices aren’t running for president. So I am strongly considering him. It’s laughable to dismiss Santorum and at the same time talk up one of the other candidates running. They all have serious shortcomings.

Santorum is a RINO cheat. Just because he spews the right sound bites does not make him a conservative. He earmarked money for community block development programs, voted for subsidies for ethanol supposedly to prevent global warming, demanded money for Amtrak projects to help unions, endorsed Arlen Specter over Pat Toomey and triangulated his position on abortion in 1990. He repeatedly voted to raise the debt limit.

Right now, he is positioning himself to be the running mate of Mitt Romney so that in case Romney gets the nomination, the frauds can come and tell us that we should support the ticket since the VP choice is that of a conservative.

Santorum is also acceptable to Karl Rove which makes him yet another crooked politician whose rhetoric is conservative but whose record is liberal.

Something is screwy with that survey. I changed some answers and it keeps putting Santorum at the top. Even changing some to liberal answers as an experiment. (I even changed answers to things like supporting Obamacare, etc and Santorum always ended up on top..)

>> He also just doesnt come across well. I cant put my finger on it, but I guess he just seems too uptight and not very presidential. Finally, Santorum is sort of known as big on social issues and this election will likely be far more about the economy. >>

One reason he comes across poorly is that he’s trying to niche his way through Iowa by being THE MOST interested in social issues and has really been very snippy towards other GOP candidates who believe as he does but do not focus on the social issues as much.

That shows he is not a man for this season. This season is about removing the socialists from power (more than just economy, but related to the economy for sure). It is not a season to say nanny nanny boo boo I am MORE pro life than you you. And that’s kind of his campaign. Nice guy. Believes the right things. Not a man for today.

Mine says I support Santorum by 92 percent. Michele Bachmann at 84 percent and Herman Cain by 82 percent. Newt Ginrige by 54 percent. Ricardo Perry is at 18 percent. Hillary Clinton is 16 percent. Can you imagine that Ricardo Perry and Hillary Clinton are practically the same. No wonder I can’t stand Perry and finally can say he is a true LIBERAL!!!!!

Obama or Santorum, just saying? Shouldn't we find out about who this guy is? He backed some dumb stuff, what guy hasn't? The perfect candidate can't be generated off a computer model. We're dealing with humans who have human issues.

I think Santorum was a good man. Karl Rove wrecked his career when he twisted his arm to endorse Arlen Specter. I think Rove and Bush told him to endorse Specter or else.

It was all downhill from there. I urged people at the time to support Santorum, because he was an excellent Senator with a good record. But the Specter endorsement finished him, and he never recovered.

Santorum was also my guy at 93%. I also disagreed with his support for Santorum, but at least he endorsed a Republican. Perry supported Al Gore! If the worst thing in Santorum’s history is supporting a Republican incumbent one time, then it is time to give him a chance seeing that I bet a lot of us here would agree with him on the issues more than we would any other candidate.

Interesting - I also showed Sen. Santorum in #1 at 88% and Mr. Cain at 60% (Mr. Gingrich is also in the 80%s). It doesn’t mean I am going to switch since it is too small a number of questions to actually portray the candidates.

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posted on 11/19/2011 6:06:30 PM PST
by freedumb2003
(Herman Cain 2012 -- the man we need at the time we need him)

I see that the Rick haters didn't take long to roll in here to slam him for an endorsement and losing a very tough election stacked against him. I enjoy that even though the other candidates have totally terrible records as far as being a Conservative, Rick keeps getting slammed for this stupid stuff. I will take Santorum any day of the week over the other open borders, pro global warming, Nat'l sales taxing, Romneycaring, mandating, stumbling, bumbling, blame America first candidates.

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posted on 11/19/2011 6:06:49 PM PST
by Lazlo in PA
(Now living in a newly minted Red State.)

FTR, I am calling BS on this metric - I just took it and it had Santorum as my top at 97 and Newt next at 96. Now that just makes no sense, since I put lower priorities on things I know Santorum would be high as a test.

I think there’s a Santorum connection to this thing. Besides, treating these issues as equally weighted questions is just not reality, and it doesn’t measure how effective we think candidates will be in achieving anything.

That’s why I’ve never thought too much of these check box surveys. They are somewhat informative, but really don’t translate to action and real life at all.

The accuracy of that poll is somewhat in question, when my results show Jeb Bush with a 9% higher rating than Herman Cain. It also shows Newt as my #1 pick (HAH!)at 84% with Santorum second, Palin 3rd.

Nice deflection. Santorum is the candidate we're talking about. He had a clear choice to go with Toomey, he (and our former RINO-Prez) GWB threw their support to Snarlin' Arlen who repaid that favor by switching to the 'Rats.

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