tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post7937955373260083872..comments2017-08-12T22:11:06.964-04:00Comments on Ferule &amp; Fescue: Teaching is political. Even when it's not.Flaviahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17832765671541392835noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-23974593741443750582016-11-21T10:34:44.148-05:002016-11-21T10:34:44.148-05:00Anon:
I&#39;m guessing you&#39;re not a regular r...Anon:<br /><br />I&#39;m guessing you&#39;re not a regular reader, if you&#39;re asking that question (and you are certainly not a very attentive reader of this post, if your big take-away is that I&#39;m promoting a political agenda in the classroom).<br /><br />I don&#39;t teach courses that involve contemporary issues now, but when I did I made a concerted effort to include all sides. I&#39;ve always helped conservative students make the best possible case for positions they believed in, from gun rights to pro-life arguments. And I know that I do have (at least a couple of) Trump supporters in my classes. The day after the election I told my students, explicitly, that we were not going to be talking about the election, partly to respect the diversity of views and partly because I didn&#39;t think it was appropriate in a poetry classroom--but also because I believe that the intellectual and the creative life are what we have when the heat and dust of the present moment settles, and that art is what helps us to make sense out of change, whether that change be welcome or unwelcome (and in the class where we&#39;re reading Paradise Lost I pointed out that Milton had experienced both sides: once on the winning side of revolution, and once on the losing, and that we could see the poem as a complex reaction to both experiences).<br /><br />Again, since you obviously do not read me regularly, let me note that my specialty is religion and literature in post-Reformation England. That means that my courses do, in fact, create an environment where religious students (whether those be Christian, Jewish, or Muslim--and I have notable numbers of all three), as well as formerly religious students and secular humanists, can think deeply about theological and existential questions. I also happen to be a practicing Catholic, though my personal beliefs are also not something I discuss in the classroom.<br /><br />If any of this seems radically ideological to you, then you don&#39;t know very many ideologues. Flaviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17832765671541392835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-43828676464365413392016-11-21T08:35:01.131-05:002016-11-21T08:35:01.131-05:00I can’t help but wonder if this “inclusion” includ...I can’t help but wonder if this “inclusion” includes those with viewpoints different from your own. For example, many Christians see homosexual behavior as sinful. What about Trump supporters? Will you be tolerant, understanding, and accepting of the beliefs and values of people with whom you disagree? Or are you going to use your classroom to surreptitiously advance your ideological agenda?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-34230660041699263592016-11-18T17:34:36.193-05:002016-11-18T17:34:36.193-05:00We&#39;re reading The Merchant of Venice this week...We&#39;re reading <i>The Merchant of Venice</i> this week. It feels ... different than it did before. Rawer, edgier, too close to our world.<br /><br /><i>Julius Caesar</i> after break. <i>That</i> one is going to be weird, especially at this particular historical moment, with all the anxiety about what Caesar <i>might</i> become in the (very near) future.Fretful Porpentinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11165078003123517013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-4606488838887147702016-11-18T09:00:47.394-05:002016-11-18T09:00:47.394-05:00Given what I heard alt-right/white nationalist lea...Given what I heard alt-right/white nationalist leader Richard Spencer say on NPR last night (http://www.npr.org/2016/11/17/502476139/were-not-going-away-alt-right-leader-on-voice-in-trump-administration), I&#39;d say that any reminder that people of varying ethnicities and &quot;races&quot; (however defined) have been interacting, intermingling, intermarrying, and generally doing business together for thousands of years would e useful information. I doubt that most of our students would find his contention that people of different backgrounds can&#39;t get along plausible, or his vision of a European-only state/enclave/whatever desirable (or even easily definable; at the very least, I suspect his idea of who is &quot;white&quot;/European-descended and therefore &quot;in&quot; and able to interact easily with those of similar background would be very different from that of a KKK leader 100 years ago), but they do have a tendency to see multiculturalism as a modern thing rather than an ongoing process by which, at least in the U.S., groups that were once defined as different/outside gradually become part of the mainstream (and, come to think of it, that process might be very visibly continuing now, in Trump&#39;s combined rejection of Muslims and other (mostly Hispanic) &quot;aliens&quot; and his at least lip-service embrace of African Americans. It&#39;s hard to believe the U.S. will move beyond the black/white divide, and the tendency to interpret other intergroup interactions in terms of that divide, anytime soon, but surprising things happen). Contingent Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08161652083031423415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-3235325145731055382016-11-17T22:39:27.968-05:002016-11-17T22:39:27.968-05:00Bardiac:
Okay, you got me! Better to say I don&#3...Bardiac:<br /><br />Okay, you got me! Better to say I don&#39;t talk about *contemporary politics* in the classroom.<br /><br />(Or at least not explicitly. I mean, to the extent that I suggest that nonconsensual sex is not high-larious, that homosexuality isn&#39;t a sin, and that kind of thing, I guess I could be considered to tip some of my political hand.)<br />Flaviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17832765671541392835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-75888878489457441292016-11-17T21:14:36.202-05:002016-11-17T21:14:36.202-05:00I typically don&#39;t get into politics in class. ...I typically don&#39;t get into politics in class. Last week, though, I had a really hard time being a professional. I feel kind of bad about it, but I don&#39;t think it will cost me my job. To be fair, students asked me about the election and how I was feeling, but any moron could tell I was so depressed I could literally barely speak. So when they asked me how I felt, I said &quot;terrified,&quot; because that was true. I made clear that the election had less chance of affecting me than others, but I was scared nonetheless. <br /><br />It was probably the wrong thing to indulge in my misery and not hide it. The only way I could have hidden my depression would have been to cancel class. Once I figured out a strategy to move forward, I was able to control myself better. But for the first day, I was completely unable. Fie upon this quiet life!https://www.blogger.com/profile/12047096700049201873noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-87582089151690866222016-11-17T08:55:48.255-05:002016-11-17T08:55:48.255-05:00All teaching is, indeed, political! Good work!
(...All teaching is, indeed, political! Good work!<br /><br />(I would have thought teaching Milton is pretty expressly political, inasmuch as he asks his readers to think about power relationships and authority.)Bardiachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11846065504793800266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-27054305.post-91802798955205040662016-11-16T23:08:41.579-05:002016-11-16T23:08:41.579-05:00I agree heartily - teaching is political and there...I agree heartily - teaching is political and there&#39;s so many myths to explode about the historical culture that nostalgia paints as unchanging and homogeneous.Janicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14093558563358431804noreply@blogger.com