Did the aTm/Bama game change anyone's opinion on offense?

We saw that an offensive/spread/dual threat QB can win the SEC just a couple years ago with Cam. A lot of people seem to forget that year.

I saw Alabama on defense more tired and more confused than ever. Saban himself looked confused. He couldn't dial up anything to slow Johnny down.

My opinion may have been swayed a bit after yesterday. I think a fast paced offense can win in this league. You don't have to have an extraordinary defense. Alabama and LSU are always going to be handicapped on that side of the ball.

Gundy and Patterson can do that here.

Your thoughts?

Petrino had a good offense and a good mind. It just wasn't fast pace and had a normal pocket QB. Big difference.

re: Did the aTm/Bama game change anyone's opinion on offense?(Posted by cigsmcgee on 11/11/12 at 11:17 am to Hawgeye)

In the end, players win and lose. aTm has a top notch oline and a freak show qb. I think scheme can be a bit overrated sometimes. Offense A and can be just as good as offense B if executed properly. Id be fine with anything as long as whoever is coaching recruits winners who are able to excel in whatever style they are using.

re: Did the aTm/Bama game change anyone's opinion on offense?(Posted by OSqueal on 11/11/12 at 12:32 pm to Hawgeye)

You need an outstanding athlete at QB, ala Tim Tebow, Cam and Manziel to run it. Its not a plug and play type system like Saban. Those QB's have a bad day then they dont have a very good chance of winning. JMO.

re: Did the aTm/Bama game change anyone's opinion on offense?(Posted by DaleDenton on 11/11/12 at 12:45 pm to Hawgeye)

From Arkansas' point of view, having to play Bama with Saban there as the opening SEC game, second game of the year, then second SEC game third game of the year, has been far more hampering than the defense/offense argument...

re: Did the aTm/Bama game change anyone's opinion on offense?(Posted by DaleDenton on 11/11/12 at 1:35 pm to Hawgeye)

quote:It's not like he knew two years in advance he was going to a tougher league so he could recruit for it. That team is made of guys to win at a lower a tad bit less than the conference they are in.

His team would be competitive for what he was recruiting for, talent and depth wise, the MWC.

Just look at WVU, they would probably be dominating the Big East right now...

Mizzou would likely be more competitive in the big12 than they are in the SEC, aTm was recruiting well with Sherman, not sure how they would be doing with him in either conference right now.

re: Did the aTm/Bama game change anyone's opinion on offense?(Posted by Hawgeye on 11/11/12 at 1:41 pm to DaleDenton)

Yep. West Va was ranked in the top 5 earlier when they were playing teams with the same talent level and their scheme worked. The struggles started with Baylor and they've now lost what, five of their last six?

re: Did the aTm/Bama game change anyone's opinion on offense?(Posted by hawgfaninc on 11/11/12 at 2:03 pm to Hawgeye)

the thing is IMO the alabama pro-style/defensive philosophy is more consistent, more prolonged winning. sure a cam newton or johnny frickin football can come along once in awhile and throw a monkey wrench in the consistency because of that particular player being the 'X' factor. but those players come along once in a blue moon.

eta: if it wasnt for cam or JFF their team would be a shadow of what they were, and ATM sure as hell wouldnt of won yesterday