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You want to get rid of gun crime?

Look at where the majority of violent crimes are committed and deduce who is committing them. The vast majority happen in major metropolitan areas...ie: big cities.

Study the populous of these cities, and you will see who is committing the crimes.

Bus them out to the Grand Canyon and line them up on the edge of the highest canyon wall, making sure they are all tethered together.
Give the first one a good pat on the back, and watch how fast our problems disappear.

This would get rid of 90 % of our violent crimes, improve our cities, and be a huge step in balancing our national budget.

Problem solved!

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That won't work. The real solution is stop the cocaine and herion black markets and focus on locking the real criminals away like the folks that are providing the drugs in the first place. stopping the addicts is just a way to keep the cops busy and justify localizing crime (keep it in the hood) and Getting the abusers into the system for the merry go round. Lock up the dealers. Its not that hard to find the trail of drug traffic. The weapons go right along with drug trafficking. Our country can stop this insanity but there seems to be a breakdown between local law enforcement and national security.

It's not if your doing it right it's whether your doing the right thing that is important.

That won't work. The real solution is stop the cocaine and herion black markets and focus on locking the real criminals away like the folks that are providing the drugs in the first place. stopping the addicts is just a way to keep the cops busy and justify localizing crime (keep it in the hood) and Getting the abusers into the system for the merry go round. Lock up the dealers. Its not that hard to find the trail of drug traffic. The weapons go right along with drug trafficking. Our country can stop this insanity but there seems to be a breakdown between local law enforcement and national security.

Funny why then hasn't cocaine, heroin, etc. became a problem in poverty stricken Appalachia? There is a different type of folks there. They have pride and morals ingrained in their culture, their DNA, etc. Some folks are just prone to that life style and there isn't much you can do about it. Thank you, thank you very much

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The government is not serious about stopping drug abuse anymore than they are about stopping violent crime. Too many people make too much money and too many people find power in ruling over these activities or the "attempt" to control them. Big bucks on both sides of the game keep it going. As long as there is power and money to be gained from the outward attempt to control *bad things* those things will continue.

Funny why then hasn't cocaine, heroin, etc. became a problem in poverty stricken Appalachia? There is a different type of folks there. They have pride and morals ingrained in their culture, their DNA, etc. Some folks are just prone to that life style and there isn't much you can do about it. Thank you, thank you very much

The government is not serious about stopping drug abuse anymore than they are about stopping violent crime. Too many people make too much money and too many people find power in ruling over these activities or the "attempt" to control them. Big bucks on both sides of the game keep it going. As long as there is power and money to be gained from the outward attempt to control *bad things* those things will continue.

X2, What you said.
Also, people are prone to be that way because they are caught in a viscious cycle. Fatherless children grow up to hate authority, it's just a fact. Broken families held down by easy top obtian gov't dole, easy access to drugs weapons alcohol etc to wipe away the pain of a dead end life, mix in mental illness and there you have it. The police just look at it and shake their heads and take em to jail, let the judge deal with it.

It's not if your doing it right it's whether your doing the right thing that is important.

It's a list of the States that get the most money from the Feds than they send the Feds, i.e.. takers. With the exception of Maine and Vermont, which have exceptionally low crime rates, every New England "Yankee" State sends in more than they get back. The number after the State is the dollar amount received to dollar sent.

The government is not serious about stopping drug abuse anymore than they are about stopping violent crime. Too many people make too much money and too many people find power in ruling over these activities or the "attempt" to control them. Big bucks on both sides of the game keep it going. As long as there is power and money to be gained from the outward attempt to control *bad things* those things will continue.

I saw a Vice documentary a while back about a Morman community in Mexico and how they have to protect themselfs from the drug lords.

One of the top guys there was asked his opinion of how to fight the drug trade, his answer was "make pot legal, and the cartel would collaps in short time".

Roy

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