I just think the OC who failed to utilize his Halfbacks until they were out of the post-season hunt and kept running his QB isn't going to be a good head coach. Norv Turner runs a lot of vertical routes which suits your young talent such as Gordon but these two combined scream doom for Richardson(who I was never high on to begin with). Finally, Horton is more of a hunch. You guys certainly have lots of talent in Taylor, Sheard, Haden and Ward. But I just have a hunch. Call it crazy.

ok your comments about Norv...you said his vertical offense are good but it screams doom for Richardson? I remember seeing Norv turner using LT pretty damn well. He used Frank Gore pretty damn good his lone year in Sanfran. With the Raiders he had pathetic talent at the RB position. Ricky Williams had a great two year run with Norv. Norv turner has a track record of using RBs just fine.

I think your hunch just my be constipation...

I agree some great RB's had outstanding years under Turner and let's not forget he did get that team to an AFC championship. He got progressively worse as a coach which leads me to think that they had struggles in developing young players.

I'm also not 1000% sold on Horton like everyone else. The Cardinals invested a lot of picks and money in their defense (Dockett, Campbell, Williams, Washington, Peterson, Wilson) and they seemed good but nothing dominant. A good chunk of that could be due to their abysmal offense I guess.

You're probably joking, since the Browns are still in need of a lot of talent to really make a run. But this is a good coach for their development. Really like the coaching staff they put into place here (except Lombardi as VP of Personnel was a poor move) - should be fun to watch how this develops._________________With much cheese,
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I think Billy Winn will be starting at DE. He'll be a great fit there I think. Cleveland just needs another ILB and another OLB and that could be one heck of a defensive front.

Except Phil Taylor is a NT.

Interesting since Ahtyba Rubin was and has been our NT even after we drafted Taylor.

What he's saying is Taylor is more of a NT in the 3-4, which I kinda agree with. I'm sure Taylor will do fine at DE, but I think he'd be a lot better player at the nose.

Why? Because of his size? Because he certainly doesn't play anything like a NT, he's a gap shooter. He tries to play in the backfield, he's not the type of guy to just eat up blocks. He's also a lot more agile than most guys his size. He'll certainly need some strong coaching, but I think he'll fit fine as a 3-4 DE._________________Adopt-a-Brown: Jabaal Sheard - Stats:
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I just think the OC who failed to utilize his Halfbacks until they were out of the post-season hunt and kept running his QB isn't going to be a good head coach. Norv Turner runs a lot of vertical routes which suits your young talent such as Gordon but these two combined scream doom for Richardson(who I was never high on to begin with). Finally, Horton is more of a hunch. You guys certainly have lots of talent in Taylor, Sheard, Haden and Ward. But I just have a hunch. Call it crazy.

ok your comments about Norv...you said his vertical offense are good but it screams doom for Richardson? I remember seeing Norv turner using LT pretty damn well. He used Frank Gore pretty damn good his lone year in Sanfran. With the Raiders he had pathetic talent at the RB position. Ricky Williams had a great two year run with Norv. Norv turner has a track record of using RBs just fine.

I think your hunch just my be constipation...

I agree some great RB's had outstanding years under Turner and let's not forget he did get that team to an AFC championship. He got progressively worse as a coach which leads me to think that they had struggles in developing young players.

I'm also not 1000% sold on Horton like everyone else. The Cardinals invested a lot of picks and money in their defense (Dockett, Campbell, Williams, Washington, Peterson, Wilson) and they seemed good but nothing dominant. A good chunk of that could be due to their abysmal offense I guess.

I think Horton was good in Arizona and had good talent but I think having a pathetic offense didnt help him at all. I think he serves better as an attacking/aggressive defense but he wasnt able to be like that because of his weak offensive support. I think him coming to Cleveland who has the potential to be a dangerous offense with Chud and Norv will allow him to attack more_________________