First of all, that kind of behavior is run of the mill, every day stuff for these BLM thugs. Find me a source where Trump supporters are out looting people, burning down businesses and committing wide spread assault? Find me a source where Trump supporters have hijacked and permanently destroyed cities by committing senseless violence against innocent people? Find me a source where someone was actually killed in the name of Trump? And again my original question, find me some video or source of Trump supporters chanting "death to Hispanics" or "death to blacks".
Moreover, Trump shot down the violence immediately. Unlike BLM, which after weeks of dead cops on the streets gives some half-ass apology.

i'm an optimist. i really am. i still think the world only spins forward.

but it's stuff like this that makes me so very, very worried about everything.

That's pretty much my point. BLM is not an organized group; there are no fees, national newsletter or elected leaders, it's a movement. And so far there has not been any real connection with the shooters and any previous BLM activities, they acted out on their own hate riding the coattails of the event.

Just like individuals who beat a Hispanic US citizen nearly to death in the name of Trump or the Neo Nazis that attacking people outside his rallies.

Pay attention to the facts, not the agenda.

The amount of "violence" caused by Trump supporters is so minuscule compared to that of BLM. It's not even remotely close. Have trump supporters tried to kill anyone?
An "environment of hatred"? Give me a break. Pay attention to the facts, not your personal agenda. Your agenda makes it about Hispanics, we make it about lawbreaking illegals.

An "environment of hatred"? Give me a break. Pay attention to the facts, not your personal agenda. Your agenda makes it about Hispanics, we make it about lawbreaking illegals.

False. Don't kid yourself. Trump's first rant talked about Mexico sending rapist, and he's sure there are a few good ones. Never did he mention illegal. He then made a comment about Jeb is light on immigration because his wife is Hispanic. Then the judge who was born in the US should recuse himself because he's Hispanic. He's painted them all with the same brush, it doesn't matter if they are legal or not, he's made the attack about Hispanics, open your eyes.

First of all, that kind of behavior is run of the mill, every day stuff for these BLM thugs. Find me a source where Trump supporters are out looting people, burning down businesses and committing wide spread assault? Find me a source where Trump supporters have hijacked and permanently destroyed cities by committing senseless violence against innocent people? Find me a source where someone was actually killed in the name of Trump? And again my original question, find me some video or source of Trump supporters chanting "death to Hispanics" or "death to blacks".
Moreover, Trump shot down the violence immediately. Unlike BLM, which after weeks of dead cops on the streets gives some half-ass apology.

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Some cops kill black people, therefore every single cop hates black people. See how easy it is to stereotype?

And wrong, people who are widely considered to be leaders of BLM (even though it isn't an organization, but rather a movement which has no leaders), immediately condemned the killings in Dallas.

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And wrong, people who are widely considered to be leaders of BLM (even though it isn't an organization, but rather a movement which has no leaders), immediately condemned the killings in Dallas.

Yep. They've stated that openly in TV interviews. And when they've explained the concept of their movement in said interviews, absolutely nowhere in their explanations have they once advocated violence towards police or civilians.

Terrorists, on the other hand, tend to take credit for the violence that happens, whether they were actively involved or not. And they don't take the time to explain their message on your average late night talk show or town hall meeting. Kinda goes against the whole "terrorist" mindset/behavior, after all.

because they are entirely two different issues, both terrible and need to be addressed, but quit bringing up one to sweep the other under the rug.

I'm not sweeping it under the rug, just pointing out that the amount of, say, Twitter text devoted to police murders far overwhelms that devoted to black-on-black violence even though the latter accounts for far, far more violence. You're not going to address fearful police until you try to fix the problem of crime in the community. To outsiders, BLM just looks like some anti-police group, waiting for the next incident that they can point fingers at. Every murdered suspect then becomes some innocent martyr whose egregious sins are overlooked and every cop becomes the devil incarnate, no matter the circumstances.

If Black Lives Matter, focus on all black deaths lost to violence, not just from what are usually murky situations with cops.

I'm not sweeping it under the rug, just pointing out that the amount of, say, Twitter text devoted to police murders far overwhelms that devoted to black-on-black violence even though the latter accounts for far, far more violence. You're not going to address fearful police until you try to fix the problem of crime in the community. To outsiders, BLM just looks like some anti-police group, waiting for the next incident that they can point fingers at. Every murdered suspect then becomes some innocent martyr whose egregious sins are overlooked and every cop becomes the devil incarnate, no matter the circumstances.

If Black Lives Matter, focus on all black deaths lost to violence, not just from what are usually murky situations with cops.

Black lives matter isn't only about violence. Like I said, they are separate issues. Black lives matter is about the fact that police will show much more hesitation and restraint if the skin color is light. Look at the statistics of unarmed white arrests vs black being shot. It shows people that some lives are more valuable than others, that's what this is about.

Every murdered suspect then becomes some innocent martyr whose egregious sins are overlooked and every cop becomes the devil incarnate, no matter the circumstances.

I don't think anyone is claiming that all the people struck down by police violence are model citizens. But how is it conscionable that someone like Eric Garner should die over selling loose cigarettes?

I'm not sweeping it under the rug, just pointing out that the amount of, say, Twitter text devoted to police murders far overwhelms that devoted to black-on-black violence even though the latter accounts for far, far more violence. You're not going to address fearful police until you try to fix the problem of crime in the community. To outsiders, BLM just looks like some anti-police group, waiting for the next incident that they can point fingers at. Every murdered suspect then becomes some innocent martyr whose egregious sins are overlooked and every cop becomes the devil incarnate, no matter the circumstances.

If Black Lives Matter, focus on all black deaths lost to violence, not just from what are usually murky situations with cops.

Can you really not distinguish between killings carried out by ordinary citizens and killings carried out by agents of the state and why the difference between those two matters?