Did I say the throws weren't applicable?
No.
Did I say that BJJ's ground work didn't originate with judo (and then diverge)?
No.
Nice stawman arguments though.

Question: How much no-gi time does your judo school do?
Question: How many bjj schools have you visited in Sydney?
Question: How many of your fellow judoka train for MMA?
Question: How many of the guys at the bjj schools did?

If your goal is mma, bjj (or a good MMA school) is far more likely to meet your needs than is judo. Judo is great and all, but it isn't a panacea. It certainly doesn't have the contemporary ties to mma that bjj certainly does.

I understand the point you are trying to make. Really, I do.

MMA is not a new concept. Mixing styles is nothing new. It occured long before the UFC or Pride started up. But you are right. BJJ schools tend to be more focused on the MMA scene and offer gi and no-gi classes to assist in this. I was just trying to say Judo can greatly assist someone training for MMA.

Now just for the record I'm not knocking down BJJ. They are kings on the ground even my couch admits that. For me Judo is the perfect compromise. I get all the striking and hard contact sparring I need from Kyokushin. But I realised grappling was too important to ignore. I looked into some BJJ schools. But the closest one was 40 mins drive from my house in traffic. And they wanted $95- per month.

On the other hand I've got a great Judo club 5 mins from my house and all they want is $32- per month. No thanks. Judo will do just fine.

Do you post points or just non-sequiters and strawmen?
Really, I'm curious as I'm new here.

There's a reason he's got "village idiot" as a custom title.

Interestingly, this whole discussion may be moot. I wanted to do MMA, but couldn't find a gym within 3 hours of me. Turns out a buddy of my I hadn't talked to in a while knows the bouncer at his favorite club competes in MMA (he's 2-3 on sherdog). He's going to find out where the guy trains.

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You can't make people smarter. You can expose them to information, but your responsibility stops there.

When you roll pay attention to what sorts of techniques they use. It will be a little misrepresentative because you're a noob but there still may be things you can pick up on. If you get someone in your guard do they can opener you, go for leglocks or work to pass the guard? That will be a big key. Another good diagnostic would be how tight they stay but you probably wouldn't be able to pick up on that.
Do they use strength and athleticism or technique?
Another thing you could do is bait things like armbars and see how well they pick up on them.