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I see you watch To Love-Ru. Makes me wonder how you think that her sipping tea after the fight is considered over-the-top. I hardly even noticed it.

I fail to see the connection between this and To Love-ru. The tea thing is just one of the little things that made me unable to take this "witch hunt" seriously. I really disliked Mami's attitude throughout the whole fight, by the way. It seemed like it was just a game for her.

Anyway folks, i have this gut feeling about their world being in Matrix-like condition. Like, that what they think is real isn't actually real. Normally i can go on and on when it comes to speculah, but i don't know how to put this in words.

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If there's a Final Fantasy game that I must put my personal seal of disapproval on, it's Crisis Core. I mean, just look at how this Genesis Rhapsodos dude is raping the canon. It's bad. As in, fanfiction bad.

Watched episode 2 for the third time and there is something Mami said that I can't get out of my mind: when she throw the Grief Seed to Homura, she tells her she can have it -"you can use [it] once - and is obviously displeased by her refusal.
I see no reason why Mami would go out of her way to help Homura, since they are rivals of sort and as Mami said, Homura has some great powers, so she should be able to get her own GriefSeeds.
Rather, it seems like she uses this occasion to offer her a bigger deal : "You can use one, I give it to you". Not referring to the GriefSeed, but something more valuable : Sayaka and Madoka.
This scene leads me to think that if Mami wants to see Sayaka and Madoka turn into magical girls so badly (and other people reached the same conclusion) it's because some magical girls (Mami being one of them) may have to steal/eat their counterparts Soul Gem to survive or not to turn into witches themselves.

does the grief seed really look like a darken soul gem to you guys? because when I first saw it.... well their are resemblance. But the creature is totally not like a human anymore..... I wonder where is Sayaka and Mami in the first scene when Madoka saw Homura fighting the world ends enemy.

does the grief seed really look like a darken soul gem to you guys? because when I first saw it.... well their are resemblance. But the creature is totally not like a human anymore..... I wonder where is Sayaka and Mami in the first scene when Madoka saw Homura fighting the world ends enemy.

Consider that what we see is completely different to Mami's description, there's no light or energy flowing from grief seed to soul gem. Instead we see darkness flowing out of the soul gem. It's possible that whoever ends up at the end of the proverbial bucket chain of dark energy ends up corrupted into a witch.

Consider that what we see is completely different to Mami's description, there's no light or energy flowing from grief seed to soul gem. Instead we see darkness flowing out of the soul gem. It's possible that whoever ends up at the end of the proverbial bucket chain of dark energy ends up corrupted into a witch.

Perhaps the real competition is who's the last one standing, and that's the person who has their wish granted.

If the last one standing would be the one who would get the wish granted and the whole become a mahou shoujo is get more opponents for the witch but to me....... maybe sacrifice? sacrifice for something but I can't get myself to understand it yet or spell it out. But if the theory of soul gem getting corrupted or turning into a witch. I can only see those girls as sacrifice.

Consider that what we see is completely different to Mami's description, there's no light or energy flowing from grief seed to soul gem. Instead we see darkness flowing out of the soul gem. It's possible that whoever ends up at the end of the proverbial bucket chain of dark energy ends up corrupted into a witch.

Eh, did I miss something? 'Cause she didn't really describe anything, all she said was "If I use the grief seed..." then demostrated it.

I fail to see the connection between this and To Love-ru. The tea thing is just one of the little things that made me unable to take this "witch hunt" seriously. I really disliked Mami's attitude throughout the whole fight, by the way. It seemed like it was just a game for her.

To Love-Ru is more over the top than this.

Also, I think that's the point. I'm pretty sure she does think of this as a game.

Eh, did I miss something? 'Cause she didn't really describe anything, all she said was "If I use the grief seed..." then demostrated it.

See what she says after that. Nutbladder translated it as "See? It restored the magical power I used." That says she took power from the seed to the gem, but the visual shows the reverse: darkness going from the gem to the seed.

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One thing I would like to point out about that pic is that depending on how you look she's crying tears of blood...

The eyes in those images freaked me out, and I kept wondering how those girls could find them cute or funny every time they showed up on screen.

Wow, what a show! Just about everything I wanted and expected... Tho I could use some more framerate on the labyrinth scenes as well. Still shaft and shinbo deliver the Magical Girl goods like no one has ever done before! Can't wait for the next episode!

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4chan denizens theory.

All of these speculations seem too darn convoluted to me. If there is a time cycle ( big if) these no grounds at all for assuming Mamie or Sayuka are part of it or not. The only thing we know about the flashback in the beginning is that Homura is fighting to save the world ... and she's failing because she doesn't have Madoka's help.

Maybe Madoka died because she became a Magical girl, or maybe she just didn't become one at all and died the the armageddon.

If the Magical Girls and Witches do coexsist in a cannibalistic cycle of equilibrium, maybe the world came to to an end because Mami was stopped from feeding on new recruits and because an incredibly powerful Witch with no Magical Girls strong enough to challenge her.

Point being, we just don't know enough yet to figure out the plot wether linear or cyclic.

The only thing we do know is that you shouldn't trust things that don't blink!

Apparently the way to become a magical girl is to have a wish that one would risk their life to make true. During a chat in the top of the schook, Homura confronts with Madoka once again, informing her to recollect their conversation from before. Saying that it was too late for her to be convincing at this stage, Homura simply leaves them alone. Madoka and Sayaka began to witness first-hand witch fighting. Sayaka bringing a bat was natural; Madoka drawing her clothes were cute. Mami begins her fight with the witch, an odd-looking creature, and efeats it with her rifles. While Sayaka continues to dislike Homura, Madoka cannot help but feel that something is odd about all of this, yet shrugs it off.

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I can't help but think that there is an even bidder price to pay other than just risking one's life when becoming a magic girl. That grief seed that Mami collects after her fight with the witch, I cannot help but think that it is just another Soul Gem but overcome with darkness. In fact, the fact that the Soul gem releasing its darkness and passes it onto the already tainted gem heightens my fear. The balance between witches and magic girls...could it be that the girls are the witches once their soul gem "dims" into a Grief Seed?