And without some of the Bizarre routes it takes:ie Goldshire to Western Duskwood - sounds like a trip straight south right?Nope. Goldshire > SW > Westfall THEN Western Duskwood. Quicker to run.

Extra flight paths added in Cataclysm are horrible. They didn't hook them up to the network properly, just to the nearby ones. See Wetlands, for example, where there's a chain of 4-5 flight paths that you can only connect to from either end, which sometimes means you get connected via Loch Modan if you're missing part of the chain.

I'd never want to give up flying mounts at max level -- it's just far too convenient when you want to Get Stuff Done (dailies and such). If you manage to grab a 1/2 - 1 hour play window some time in your day, spending 10 minutes getting somewhere is very frustrating.

I think immediate flight in Cata was a mistake. There was a lack of immersion, and risk-free gathering in Uldum by fresh 80s was a broken design (though undoubtedly a nice one to exploit).

rodos wrote:I'd never want to give up flying mounts at max level -- it's just far too convenient when you want to Get Stuff Done (dailies and such). If you manage to grab a 1/2 - 1 hour play window some time in your day, spending 10 minutes getting somewhere is very frustrating.

I think immediate flight in Cata was a mistake. There was a lack of immersion, and risk-free gathering in Uldum by fresh 80s was a broken design (though undoubtedly a nice one to exploit).

it was a titan structure to begin with, why not a force field around it that requires a transponder or something to pass through?it would fit with all the other BS reasons they have for stupid mechanics

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

And without some of the Bizarre routes it takes:ie Goldshire to Western Duskwood - sounds like a trip straight south right?Nope. Goldshire > SW > Westfall THEN Western Duskwood. Quicker to run.

Extra flight paths added in Cataclysm are horrible. They didn't hook them up to the network properly, just to the nearby ones. See Wetlands, for example, where there's a chain of 4-5 flight paths that you can only connect to from either end, which sometimes means you get connected via Loch Modan if you're missing part of the chain.

Not to mention that there are just way too many of them now. When that flightmaster map pops up I always cringe when it lights up with like 4 flight points per zone.

i remember leveling my first pally and getting the intro to FP quests and having to run from westfall to redridge cause i hadnt discovered that one yet, hearthing back to goldshire because i forgot to pick up the westfall point, and running back

now they just get on a FP at goldshire to fly to SW.....

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

bldavis wrote:i remember leveling my first pally and getting the intro to FP quests and having to run from westfall to redridge cause i hadnt discovered that one yet, hearthing back to goldshire because i forgot to pick up the westfall point, and running back

now they just get on a FP at goldshire to fly to SW.....

Tell me about it. FP's use to be spottie, now it seems like ever 45-50 feet there is one.

masterpoobaa wrote:I saw that... at level 44 my Priest had to ride to WPL to get the FP. Soon as she dingged 45 presto - all the other WPL FP's show up.

Handy, but yet another thing that kills the exploration/immersion IMHO.

esp for someone like me who had most of northrend explored at 75

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

Though I'm still going to miss the random QQ about Crusader Aura in LFR.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

To be fair, you might run out of range of the shaman, hunter or dk, or they may die. In both cases, you would lose the AP buff immediately. If you had BoM on the other hand, you would keep the buff even if you are more than (is it 40 yards?) away from the player, which can happen very easily, or if the paladin casting BoM dies.

Also, Might also gives MP5, which is why it's preferable to the auras.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

99% of the warlocks run with the lolguard (not realizing it's nerfing their dps)

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.