7 round mag limits in NY

This is a discussion on 7 round mag limits in NY within the General Firearm Discussion forums, part of the Related Topics category; IANAL, but isn't making a law retroactive called ex post facto? And isn't that illegal?
Is there any legal possibility of overturning such a law?
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"A heavily armed citizenry is not about overthrowing the government; it is about preventing the government from overthrowing liberty. A people stripped of their right of self defense is defenseless against their own government." -source

Hm. And I wonder where all those sales are going to end up ... like as not, into the hands of those willing to retain them after the ban (ie, criminals, and likely some "statutory" criminals as well).

Ironic result for such a law: to arm criminals directly, as a nice little side benefit. Let alone the inevitable fact that criminals, then, will be better-armed than upstanding citizens. Unintended consequences, indeed.

To the good people of New York: Instead of selling your guns to comply with state laws that obviously infringe upon your Second Amendment right, I humbly suggest that you sell your homes and relocate yourselves and your businesses to any other state that stands up for your Second Amendment rights.

"In the United States, the Congress is prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by clause 3 of Article I, Section 9 of the United States Constitution. The states are prohibited from passing ex post facto laws by clause 1 of Article I, Section 10. This is one of the relatively few restrictions that the United States Constitution made to both the power of the federal and state governments before the Fourteenth Amendment."

Last edited by Harvester; January 15th, 2013 at 09:39 AM.
Reason: Because I can!!

To the good people of New York: Instead of selling your guns to comply with state laws that obviously infringe upon your Second Amendment right, I humbly suggest that you sell your homes and relocate yourselves and your businesses to any other state that stands up for your Second Amendment rights.

Who the heck wants to buy a home in NY??? But hey, there may possibly be a silver lining. All of the bleeding hearts that believe these restrictions will make them safer can move to New York. The rest of the country can remain free and hoard all of these weapons and mags.

Who the heck wants to buy a home in NY??? But hey, there may possibly be a silver lining. All of the bleeding hearts that believe these restrictions will make them safer can move to New York. The rest of the country can remain free and hoard all of these weapons and mags.

New York gun lovers are screwed. Plain and simple.

Yep, that's about the size of it. Personally I'd get out earlier rather than later. The more homes there are for sale, the more the market will favor the buyers (and it already favors the buyers anyway). States like NY are only going to consider change if their bank account suffers to a point where they have to look at why it's suffering. The one thing you have to realize is these idiots will not be voted out of office, so you do not have a "democratic" way to free yourself of an oppressive state leadership.

With no grandfathering, does that mean an ample supply of 8+ rd magazines for sale coming soon?

New Yorkers have one year to sell any magazine with a capacity more than 7 rounds, including pre-ban 30 round mags from the '94 ban. So, I imagine we'll be seeing a number of mags up for sale not long after this is law.

Proven combat techniques may not be flashy and may require a bit more physical effort on the part of the shooter. Further, they may not win competition matches, but they will help ensure your survival in a shooting or gunfight on the street. ~Paul Howe

How stupid is this?! So all the mags over 7 rounds how is NY going to know who has them or not? I mean granted if you shoot someone and you have a 10 round mag you would have to swap it out for your 7 round mag (if at home when this incident occurred) but if it happened outside the home better to just carry a couple 7 rounders.