Replacement for the CV.3

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What would you replace the fleet of CV.3s with during the mid to late 30s?

-Vehicle can be wheeled or tracked.
-Can be a spin off or upgrade from a later date as long as it's derived from the CV 33/35/38 series (for example: Solothurn 20mm)
-An entirely different vehicle such as the C.A. 10t or Foster's CDR can only get upgrades from the 1939 limit.
-The L6 suspension can be used but upgrades limited up to 1939.
-Armored Cars and truck mounted guns are acceptable but only up to 1939.

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Maybe get 76/40 from the Navy. They will have a bit more muzzle velocity with longer tube than 76/30.
But a 75/27 CK/AV would already be better than what they had. They had those mounted in Ceiranos for AA.

Heavy autoblindos were definitely a possibility, the so called dovunque so 6x6 truck chassis - there was prototype in 1943 with a 90mm gun -. The problem is they will try to over engineer it.

AB41 for example could have appeared earlier but they wanted 4 wheel steering!

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No. this requires another way of thinking : realizing that existing wheel based armored based on 4x4 or 6x6 truck chassis is faster to get into production with a 75mm gun than a tank with same gun. Besides the advantages in replacements and economy of being bigger volume production.

Combat disadvantages is obviously less mobility in certain off road types , but much more operational and strategic mobility.

This is getting rid of tanks altogether until a 75mm and better armor can be made by Italian industry on tracks.

There is no point on CV33 and neither on L640 which btw was even younger than M13/40 arriving only in 1941 or 42.

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I'm going to attempt to post pics of all the available tracked and wheeled armor fighting vehicles and trucks available from mid to late 30s. This will allow people unfamiliar with the names to pick their favorite choice.

C.A. 10ton:

I would prefer the M11/39 with radio over the (above) prototype with thinner armor.

For the seizure of the DZ that would be fine, but I would like to keep the option of advancing and even maxing out its combat radius if need be. Plus, you can tow the 47/32 as well as keeping the mounted one. That's two 47/32s for each vehicle. Ammo crates can be strapped to the clips holding the metal panel. Not too shabby.

Only if a person would want a tracked vehicle as replacement for the L3s, of course.
I'm currently undecided. A Pavessi tractor tank destroyer with Perrelli desert wheels and upgraded engine sounds awfully tempting:

I Couldn't find the pick of the tank destroyer, so this'll have to do for now.