NickelP:Cat Food Sandwiches: Obama should have the decency to remove the footage if the shop owner wants it out. Douche move.

Jesus learn to read or stop being intentionally dishonest. She asked the dem's to remove the add late Friday, it was removed by Monday. She started her little non-partisan antics on Wednesday and went on TV on Thursday, after the add had already been off for 3 days.

I went back and re-read the article and didn't see that. But, I'll take your word for it, since it's Friday.

Cat Food Sandwiches:NickelP: Cat Food Sandwiches: Obama should have the decency to remove the footage if the shop owner wants it out. Douche move.

Jesus learn to read or stop being intentionally dishonest. She asked the dem's to remove the add late Friday, it was removed by Monday. She started her little non-partisan antics on Wednesday and went on TV on Thursday, after the add had already been off for 3 days.

I went back and re-read the article and didn't see that. But, I'll take your word for it, since it's Friday.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120809/NEWS0106/308090099/Deli-o w ner-gets-taste-fame?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|FRONTPAGE|p states it was going to be done about a day later, which would be Monday. He was quoted somewhere else saying it was off Monday, I am not sure where I saw that to cite it. Either way it was already off when she started her bs. The linked article intentionally misrepresents it, you have to click the link in the article to get to what they are paraphrasing but leaving out all the useful details.

Cat Food Sandwiches:Obama should have the decency to remove the footage if the shop owner wants it out. Douche move.

Faux said he first spoke with Krause-McDonnell on a Friday night and called the campaign, which got back to him by Sunday. They couldn't do anything about the ad over the weekend, he said, but told him it would be ending anyway Monday.

Krause-McDonnell, 52, said she still saw the ad after Faux told her the campaign said it would be off the air. It is no longer airing but can be seen on YouTube.

Really having a hard time figuring out the 'douche move' here. The ad isn't running anymore and they can't exactly edit every copy of it floating around the intertubes.

Mrtraveler01:To be fair, not all small business owners are this stupid.

Nope, but I do think it's time we stop hoisting them as paragons of American ingenuity simply because they no longer draw a paycheck. For every smart small business owner, there's untold numbers of idiots who inherited or mortgaged a few bucks and just assumed that the minute they hung out a sign, the people would come. Sally and Ralph might be "small business owners," but that's like me calling myself a "reproductive expert" after having banged Phil's mom.

Once successful then yes, they can brag to me all they want about being the backbone of society.

/sorry, I'm just sick of teabillies reveling in this self-styled hero role and it turns out they run a convenience store that's 7 months in the red and about to shut down...but their opinion is more important than mine 'cos I work for the man, or something

So, basically, you're an idiot with no sense of intellectual property rights and Newsbusters is stoking your stupid.

Also, I'll care if the media reports on this the moment they start reporting on the fact that Mitt Romney's current campaign centerpiece is a bald-faced lie about the welfare provisions that the administration altered.

jjorsett:but dragging her business against its will into a political fight and pissing off customers who think she's chosen sides just makes Obama look like a giant asshole. I

Almost as big of an asshole as people who think that using commercial stock footage is "dragging her business against her will into a political fight". I guess the thing I personally don't understand is the willful stupidity of people who want to see controversy where none exists. If she didn't want her store used in videos, there was a simple way to avoid it. But once you sell the rights to something, you give up all ability to complain about what it's used for. But then, without people like you, my job as Agent Provocateur of meaningless arguments would be a lot more difficult, so thank you.

St_Francis_P:RadioAaron: She gave permission to someone to use her place for stock footage, right? I mean, don't you have to?

Sounds that way:

The scene was from stock footage bought from a Cincinnati video company, Faux said. He did not know the name of the company but said he was told by the Obama campaign that company officials said they did explain to Krause's manager that they were filming stock footage that could be purchased and used for any reason.

But since Fox is on the job, the truth will soon cease to matter.

I find this part of Conservative politics to be truly hilarious. They love to drum up outrage on the most ridiculous things. That in and of itself is annoying. But then in their article, to add credibility, they cite sources, provide links and even quotes to back their story. Except if you actually read the source, click the link or parse the quote you realize it directly contradicts what they are saying.

HOLY CRAP THERE ARE DEATH PANELS ON PAGE ### HERE IS A PDF (link). Err... I read your PDF and umm...

Wyalt Derp:Just imagine if Romney had done this, he would have literally been skinned, set on fire and crucified by now.

I bet if I search through all of Romney's ads there has got to be some stock footage of a business somewhere in one of them. No one has yet to complain because no liberal would tell a business that they have lost their business because it was in a Romney ad. We just don't care that much.

The scene was from stock footage bought from a Cincinnati video company, Faux said. He did not know the name of the company but said he was told by the Obama campaign that company officials said they did explain to Krause's manager that they were filming stock footage that could be purchased and used for any reason.

Assuming this to be true, what does the store owner have to complain about?

Is News Busters admitting that Republicans are so petty that they would refuse to do business with a mom and pop deli because a picture of it appeared for a split second in an Obama ad?

More_Like_A_Stain:LouDobbsAwaaaay: I heard he carved a 'B' into the small business owner's face and then ate his dog.

With dijon mustard

Fixed.Following President Obama's May 5 visit to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington, Virginia, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, and Rush Limbaugh Show guest host Mark Steyn criticized Obama as an elitist because he ordered a burger with "spicy mustard" or "Dijon mustard." Hannity claimed that Obama ordered a "fancy burger" with a "very special condiment," while Steyn asserted Obama is trying "to enlighten us" through his order. Ingraham asked of Obama: "What kind of man orders a cheeseburger without ketchup but Dijon mustard? ... The guy orders a cheeseburger without ketchup? What is that?" In their discussions of Obama's burger order, Hannity, Ingraham, and Steyn all referenced a Grey Poupon commercial featuring actors portraying wealthy British men expressing desire for the mustard.

During the May 6 edition of his Fox News program, Hannity said: "[A]s you all know, President Obama is a real man of the people. And yesterday he dropped by a popular Virginia restaurant to grab a burger with his pal [Vice President] Joe [Biden]. Now, the Gateway Pundit blog pointed out that plain old ketchup, well, it didn't quite cut it for the president. Now take a look at him ordering his burger with a very special condiment. ... Dijon mustard? I think the president watched just a little bit too much television as a kid." Hannity then played a portion of a Grey Poupon commercial and commented, "I hope you enjoyed that fancy burger, Mr. President." In the May 5 post Hannity referenced, the Gateway Pundit wrote of Obama and Biden: "They're just two ordinary metrosexual guys going out for a burger ... Obama and Biden, two ordinary guys, go out for a sandwich and Obama asks for Dijon mustard at Joe's Hell Burger." The blog added: "I hear it's delish with arugula lettuce. Yum-Yum."

During the May 6 edition of her radio show, Ingraham said of Obama: "I don't even like the way the man orders a hamburger. ... What kind of man orders a cheeseburger without ketchup but Dijon mustard?" She later added of Obama: "See, he was trying to do this whole thing with Biden -- 'We're like the regular people, we're like every other guy, you know, with our -- on our lunch break, we're going to go grab a burger, two guys, two bros.' " Like Hannity, Ingraham played a clip from a Grey Poupon commercial in which an actor asked, "Pardon me, would you have any Grey Poupon?" Ingraham then remarked: "That would have been more appropriate." Ingraham's remarks were highlighted by The Fox Nation on May 7:

On the May 7 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show, Steyn said of Obama's condiment selection: "He's amazing, Obama. This coverage -- he's a regular guy. He eats a hamburger with Dijon mustard -- Dijon mustard. John Kerry couldn't get away with that stuff, but he makes it seem like just like a regular thing to do. Now there's -- I see that some of the left-wing commentators are saying, 'Why are people making a fuss about the Dijon mustard?' but that's just an example of the way Obama is able to enlighten us." Later in the program, Steyn stated: "I deeply resent Barack Obama crashing in as the Grey Poupon spokesperson, because that has been the lifesaver for non-American voiceover artists in this country for years -- getting the gig doing the Grey Poupon voiceover." He added: "f you can't outsource Grey Poupon to foreigners, what can you outsource? And instead now he's apparently the big Grey Poupon spokesperson, putting it all -- putting it all over his hamburger. Barack Obama -- that was -- what was that? That was yesterday, Barack Obama had a hamburger. I don't know what he may do today to prove -- to pass for human."

From the May 6 edition of Fox News' Hannity:

HANNITY: And finally tonight, as you all know, President Obama is a real man of the people. And yesterday he dropped by a popular Virginia restaurant to grab a burger with his pal Joe. Now, the Gateway Pundit blog pointed out that plain old ketchup, well, it didn't quite cut it for the president. Now take a look at him ordering his burger with a very special condiment.

OBAMA [video clip]: All right. I'm going to have a -- just your basic cheddar cheeseburger, medium well. I just want mustard, no ketchup. If you've got like a spicy mustard or something like that, or a Dijon mustard, something like that.

HANNITY: All right, Dijon mustard? I think the president watched just a little bit too much television as a kid:

[begin video clip]

IAN RICHARDSON (actor): Pardon me, would you have any Grey Poupon?

PAUL EDDINGTON (actor): You mean the mustard?

RICHARDSON: Yes, would you have any?

EDDINGTON: Would I, or do I?

RICHARDSON: Both, actually.

[end video clip]

HANNITY: All right, I hope you enjoyed that fancy burger, Mr. President.

From the May 6 edition of Talk Radio Network's The Laura Ingraham Show:

INGRAHAM: I don't even like the way the man orders a hamburger. You're listening to The Laura Ingraham Show. What kind of man orders a cheeseburger without ketchup but Dijon mustard? See, he was trying to do this whole thing with Biden -- "We're like the regular people, we're like every other guy, you know, with our -- on our lunch break, we're going to go grab a burger, two guys, two bros." No --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And a bottled water, what?

INGRAHAM: Well, we're gonna -- we're two bros hanging out together all right, man? How was your day? I love you, man. I love you. The guy orders a cheeseburger without ketchup? What is that?

CreamFilling:sprawl15: CreamFilling: What does the voiceover say? If they say or imply anything about the deli as being representative of a small business ("Small businesses like this deli...") she probably has a very strong case. If it's just a backdrop she probably doesn't, but you'd think they'd at least honor her request.

Judge it for yourself.

Thanks. They're probably technically in the clear. It does seem especially ironic that he's talking about things being taken out of context and then the importance of standing behind small businesses, and yet they do nothing to support this small business when the footage is taken out of context.

_________________________________________Link"Faux could not do anything to terminate the continued use of Krause's deli in Obama commercials over the weekend when Krause-McDonell first contacted him but noted the Obama ad was scheduled to end on Monday anyway.

The Ohio deli owner maintains she still saw the Krause's deli Obama ad after Monday. Even though the Obama commercial showcasing the Cincinnati deli is no longer showing on television, it is still featured on YouTube."

What do you want done? What does "supporting this small business" look like?

A Mod's Troll Alt:I guess the thing I personally don't understand is the willful stupidity of people who want to see controversy where none exists.

Have you been asleep since 2007? Obama can't even bow to a foreign leader without the Neocon outrage factory becoming outraged about something. He plays golf with politicians more than usual and the party who still supports the embarrassing President who set the record for number of vacation days out of DC cries about it. This is the party of the draft dodger George W Bush who railroaded the war record of John Kerry as unpatriotic.

rufus-t-firefly:More_Like_A_Stain: LouDobbsAwaaaay: I heard he carved a 'B' into the small business owner's face and then ate his dog.

With dijon mustard

Fixed.

Following President Obama's May 5 visit to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington, Virginia, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, and Rush Limbaugh Show guest host Mark Steyn criticized Obama as an elitist because he ordered a burger with "spicy mustard" or "Dijon mustard." Hannity claimed that Obama ordered a "fancy burger" with a "very special condiment," while Steyn asserted Obama is trying "to enlighten us" through his order. Ingraham asked of Obama: "What kind of man orders a cheeseburger without ketchup but Dijon mustard? ... The guy orders a cheeseburger without ketchup? What is that?" In their discussions of Obama's burger order, Hannity, Ingraham, and Steyn all referenced a Grey Poupon commercial featuring actors portraying wealthy British men expressing desire for the mustard.

During the May 6 edition of his Fox News program, Hannity said: "[A]s you all know, President Obama is a real man of the people. And yesterday he dropped by a popular Virginia restaurant to grab a burger with his pal [Vice President] Joe [Biden]. Now, the Gateway Pundit blog pointed out that plain old ketchup, well, it didn't quite cut it for the president. Now take a look at him ordering his burger with a very special condiment. ... Dijon mustard? I think the president watched just a little bit too much television as a kid." Hannity then played a portion of a Grey Poupon commercial and commented, "I hope you enjoyed that fancy burger, Mr. President." In the May 5 post Hannity referenced, the Gateway Pundit wrote of Obama and Biden: "They're just two ordinary metrosexual guys going out for a burger ... Obama and Biden, two ordinary guys, go out for a sandwich and Obama asks for Dijon mustard at Joe's Hell Burger." The blog added: "I hear it's delish with arugula lettuce. Yum-Yum."

During the May 6 edition of her radio show, Ingraham said of Obama: "I ...

Jesus Christ and the Twelve Apostles in a clown car, has the right's de facto leaders really gone so full-bore retarded that they're using what farking condiments Obama puts on his food as a war weapon? While making smarmy remarks about their sexuality to boot.

rufus-t-firefly:teeny: I can sympathize with the owner a little. If I sold stock footage, it wouldn't have immediately occured to me that it would be used in anything controversial like a campaign ad. With all the Chick-Fil-A attention whoring going on right now, I can respect a business that prefers to remain neutral. While it was 100% legal to use the footage, it would make them look extra awesome if they removed it anyway.

That being said, the first paragraph or two of the article is dripping with such concentrated douche juice that I can barely stand it. Fark you and your whiny persecution complex.

Yeah, she's so upset about the ad, and she'd be just as angry if it was a Romney ad...but she's not asking the GOP to leave her out of it.

"I've been put into a position I didn't ask for," she said Wednesday after the Hamilton County Republican Party sent out an email about the ad that accused Democrats of not responding to the owner's concerns. "I'm a little angry."

She'd be just as angry, she said, if it were an ad for Mitt Romney.

And she goes on Fox News to complain, but still doesn't ask the Republicans to stop using her story for the campaign.

Typical Obama, running away from a baby. If he runs away from babies, how weak is his foreign policy?

did you also notice that his desk is totally empty?what is he working on?

oh, and that statue of a guy whipping a horse? where is PETA?

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How did Obama "repair the economy"?

Looking forward to this election being over...

The stimulus stopped the hemorrhagic loss of jobs. Financial reforms and also freeing up cash in the markets. Didn't restore the economy but initiated the recovery and provided a stable environment for continued recovery.

Typical Obama, running away from a baby. If he runs away from babies, how weak is his foreign policy?

did you also notice that his desk is totally empty?what is he working on?

oh, and that statue of a guy whipping a horse? where is PETA?

[www.politifake.org image 640x553]

How did Obama "repair the economy"?

Looking forward to this election being over...

The stimulus stopped the hemorrhagic loss of jobs. Financial reforms and also freeing up cash in the markets. Didn't restore the economy but initiated the recovery and provided a stable environment for continued recovery.

Here is a good summary:

Link

Well to me "repair" means "to fix". Our economy is not doing well - and may economists are predicting another recession.

You'll have to excuse me for not trusting a website called "obamaachievements.org" to be unbiased.

All the crap about President Obama being a socialist, a secret muslin, foreign born etc is BS. There are lots of reasons to legitimately complain about his performance without making stuff up.

Typical Obama, running away from a baby. If he runs away from babies, how weak is his foreign policy?

did you also notice that his desk is totally empty?what is he working on?

oh, and that statue of a guy whipping a horse? where is PETA?

[www.politifake.org image 640x553]

How did Obama "repair the economy"?

Looking forward to this election being over...

The stimulus stopped the hemorrhagic loss of jobs. Financial reforms and also freeing up cash in the markets. Didn't restore the economy but initiated the recovery and provided a stable environment for continued recovery.

Here is a good summary:

Link

Well to me "repair" means "to fix". Our economy is not doing well - and may economists are predicting another recession.

You'll have to excuse me for not trusting a website called "obamaachievements.org" to be unbiased.

All the crap about President Obama being a socialist, a secret muslin, foreign born etc is BS. There are lots of reasons to legitimately complain about his performance without making stuff up.

re·pair 1 (r-pâr)v. re·paired, re·pair·ing, re·pairsv.tr.1. To restore to sound condition after damage or injury; fix: repaired the broken watch.2. To set right; remedy: repair an oversight.3. To renew or revitalize.4. To make up for or compensate for (a loss or wrong, for example).

I think you are confusing the term restore with repair. First you repair and then you restore. The site provides references but whatever.

You want to get technical, the economy was in recession. The economy is no longer in a recession it is in a period of growth (once again). You want to talk about a healthy economy, you are going the have to go back to the Clinton days for that.

I can provide you a job creation chart, stock market chart or a GDP chart showing exactly how the economy turned around under Obama but I doubt that would convince you.

Overfiend:Well to me "repair" means "to fix". Our economy is not doing well - and may economists are predicting another recession.

Wow, you mean when government cuts budgets and lets go workers, the private sector does not, in fact, contrary to conservative belief, pick up the slack and create more new jobs to offset the public losses?

Typical Obama, running away from a baby. If he runs away from babies, how weak is his foreign policy?

did you also notice that his desk is totally empty?what is he working on?

oh, and that statue of a guy whipping a horse? where is PETA?

[www.politifake.org image 640x553]

How did Obama "repair the economy"?

Looking forward to this election being over...

The stimulus stopped the hemorrhagic loss of jobs. Financial reforms and also freeing up cash in the markets. Didn't restore the economy but initiated the recovery and provided a stable environment for continued recovery.

Here is a good summary:

Link

Well to me "repair" means "to fix". Our economy is not doing well - and may economists are predicting another recession.

You'll have to excuse me for not trusting a website called "obamaachievements.org" to be unbiased.

All the crap about President Obama being a socialist, a secret muslin, foreign born etc is BS. There are lots of reasons to legitimately complain about his performance without making stuff up.

re·pair 1 (r-pâr)v. re·paired, re·pair·ing, re·pairsv.tr.1. To restore to sound condition after damage or injury; fix: repaired the broken watch.2. To set right; remedy: repair an oversight.3. To renew or revitalize.4. To make up for or compensate for (a loss or wrong, for example).

I think you are confusing the term restore with repair. First you repair and then you restore. The site provides references but whatever.

You want to get technical, the economy was in recession. The economy is no longer in a recession it is in a period of growth (once again). You want to talk about a healthy economy, you are going the have to go back to the Clinton days for that.

I can provide you a job creation chart, stock market chart or a GDP chart showing e ...

Clearly the stock market has rebounded. But unemployment rates just set a record for most consecutive months over 8%.

I am not trying to sound dickish, but even liberal leaning economists/business leaders say that the economy is not in good shape. As mentioned, many are predicting another recession.

I am not claiming this is Obama's fault. But I am quite sure that few people think the economy is "repaired".