Hopeful of some ladder climbing today, Henry. Need the Cats and Eagles to do the job today.

I knew the Dogs had slipped, but no one told me they had fallen into an open mine shaft.

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Haha well put, Mess!

Did you happen to watch the game at all mate? Truth be told I was watching the bombers game instead so only caught scores and couldn't believe me eyes. If so, did they genuinely look as bad as their score indicated? StKilda aren't exactly in the top echelon of teams either I wouldn't have thought.

Did you happen to watch the game at all mate? Truth be told I was watching the bombers game instead so only caught scores and couldn't believe me eyes. If so, did they genuinely look as bad as their score indicated? StKilda aren't exactly in the top echelon of teams either I wouldn't have thought.

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It was a poor game truth be told. Neither of those teams will trouble anyone of substance this season.

The Dogs simply cannot get their forward line sorted; anything forward of centre is a mess and is borne out by the stat raised before the game. They are 17th in the league at scoring efficiency (scores per I50).

So with the their forward line applying little pressure the Dogs tend to have to play from centre through to defense. Saints still handle themselves well enough to convert that sort of opportunity.