Originally posted by pogue I was just wondering what a good dosage of 1,4diol was a day. I've been taking about 300mg a day for the last week and haven't noticed any significant increase in appetite.

You think I should increase the dosage, and if so, how much?

I've been on 600 mg daily and notice a good appetite increase.&nbsp; I first felt the effects after a few days and it peaked&nbsp;about 1 week into it.&nbsp; Some report the effects after 1-2 weeks of use.

If it's your first PH cycle.......slowly up you dose to 6-900 mg a day minimum IMHO. If it's not your first PH cycle, I'd bump it right up to 600 and start from there.

With 1,4 by itself, I like 900-1200 mg a day. (but that's just me)

For most on 1,4 the gains start kicking in decently between weeks 2-4. The gains from 1,4 andro tend to be leaner than from 4ad for example. You won't be retaining more water like from 4ad. Also it increases appetite quite a bit, which is great for a bulking cycle and even better fro hard gainers.

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Originally posted by pogue I've been taking 600mg a day for the past week and still don't notice any significant appetite increase.

this may be a very ignorant question, but i was wondering --
can 1.4 andro be taken trandermally?? and would this eliminate using so high dosage due to the high absorption rate when taken trandermally?

are there any pros and cons to taking 1,4 andro transdermally rather than orally?