Ross Mathews did not win the 2018 season of Celebrity Big Brother. He was, nevertheless, voted America’s Favorite Houseguest by audiences. And it likely had something to do with his suddenly exposing discussion with fellow entrant Omarosa Manigault-Newman.

Cozied up on an L-shaped sofa together, Mathews asked Omarosa to assure him that things were not as bad as they appeared in the Trump administration. “No, it’s going to not be OKAY. It’s not,” she whispered significantly, including “It’s so bad.” Which was prior to she stated Vice President Mike Pence would be even worse .

“That aired? Individuals saw it? “Mathews asked excitedly of the Omarosa bombshell in an interview with Entertainment Tonight minutes after he was blurt of the Big Brother home. Reached by phone the next day from his Palm Springs yard, Mathews informs The Daily Beast, “I am so fired up about how everything decreased.” It’s not surprising that he’s feeling excellent– this is the very first time he’s seen the sun in a month.

Mathews, who likewise acts as a judge for RuPaul’s Drag Race, understood he got an excellent scoop from Omarosa, however even now he is discovering simply what does it cost? the remarks controlled the news cycle previously this month. The entire thing has the guy previously referred to as “Ross the Intern” from Jay Leno’s Tonight Show reimagining the possibilities for his future– that is, presuming Omarosa’s alarming cautions about the fate of the world do not become a reality.

Below is a modified and condensed variation of our discussion.

How does it feel to be back in the real life?

It feels odd. I’m right now standing in my yard in the sun. And till today it had actually been 30 days given that I had actually seen the sun. We didn’t go outdoors other than for each night for an hour, however we were under a ceiling so we could not see the sun, we could not see the sky, we could not see anything. It feels fantastic.

Yeah, I wager. Why did you wish to go on Celebrity Big Brother and do you feel now that it’s over that it deserved it?

I wished to go on Big Brother since I have, for 19 seasons, viewed and stated, “I understand how I would play this video game.” I like this program. I like this video game. And I constantly seemed like, if I might make it into your home, I understood precisely what I would do. Therefore when they asked me I resembled, you cannot state that for 19 seasons and after that state no when they ask! Go in there and play the video game you understand you can play.

And how various was it from exactly what you had envisioned after viewing it for so long?

It was way more difficult than I ever envisioned it might be. It tosses you off your axis, simply by the nature of the video game, cutting you off from the outdoors world. When you very first step off a merry-go-round, it advises me of the sensation you get. You’re simply type of discombobulated and lightheaded. And after that, toss onto that truth, you cannot rely on anyone that you’re surrounded by. Oh, and they’re complete strangers. And you’re simply aiming to get your footing. It was actually difficult. And after that the boringness of it. The truth is, with these competitors often, they have to separate you. And production takes a long period of time, so in some cases they put you in a space for 6 hours. I remained in a space for 6 and a half hours simply by myself, looking at a wall– without any music, no books, no anything. Which can be such a mindfuck.

“I understand individuals that ready at exactly what they do, and she is the very best at exactly what she does. I’m not exactly sure exactly what she does, however whatever it is, she’s the very best at it.”

— Ross Mathews on Omarosa

When you initially left your house, you didn’t understand that your intense discussion with Omarosa had actually even aired on the program, not to mention that it ended up being a leading newspaper article for about 48 hours. Exactly what was it want to discover that out?

Well, I presumed it would make news. As quickly as the discussion was over I ran to the Diary Room and stated, “Did you men see that?!” I understand exactly what a scoop is. When I talked to her, I understood exactly what I was doing. I wondered. I understood she never ever spoke about any of this, beyond the interview with Michael Strahan . And she definitely had not stated anything like this. I was simply aiming to get any juicy scoop that I might and she wanted to talk, which surprised the hell from me. I believed, shut up Ross and keep asking concerns up until she stops talking. I presumed it would make news. I kept asking the manufacturers, “Is it the primary story?” I stated, “Make sure they spell Mathews properly, just one ‘T.'” They stated, “We cannot inform you anything Ross, I’m sorry.” I understood it would be huge.

To miss your 15 minutes of popularity in this case must have been odd? To not have the ability to experience it?

Oh my god, all I do is have CNN or MSNBC on in your house. When I got out, my partner Salvador stated, “All those programs you enjoy? You were on all those programs!”

What do you believe it states about our culture that cable television news covered her remarks non-stop like that?

I believe it is an unfortunate state of affairs. It is not OKAY that the White House needed to discuss a discussion I had in Celebrity Big Brother. We ought to not be residing in that type of world. The truth that we are states something. I have no idea exactly what it states, however if I figure it out, I’ll return to you.

You appeared truly worried for the nation because clip.

Well, I am! I believe anybody that’s taking note needs to be truly worried. And here’s somebody who had, not a front row seat, however a co-starring function in all of it. And I simply required her to inform me, “You understand exactly what? The media’s making a larger offer out of this than it is. We’re great.” She did not state that!

So how did that make you feel when she stated the reverse?

It made me wish to consume pizza and cake for the remainder of the day. If we’re all going down with the ship, honey, then consume the carbohydrates. That’s exactly what it made me believe: simply begin consuming carbohydrates. I actually felt a great deal of misery then. I was feeling numerous things. I was feeling interested. I was feeling ecstatic, due to the fact that I understood I was getting a scoop. I was feeling, that’s definitely not the response I desired for myself. That’s definitely not the response the nation desired. I felt like we’re all fucked.

> I do not know when she’s informing the fact or not informing the reality, however I understand she’s seen some shit.

Is there anything she admitted to you that didn’t make it onto the program?

Yes.

Can you share any of those?

I do not wish to state yet, however I asked concerns each day. I inquired about Mueller, I inquired about being subpoenaed, I inquired about if Hillary Clinton would be a great president, I asked whatever.

Is there something she stated that stuck out to you, whether it appeared on the program or not?

Well, I was captivated to hear that she worked for the Clinton project, for the 2016 Hillary project, prior to working for Donald. She worked for a company called Ready for Hillary and she stated that Hillary would have made a great president. I simply do not comprehend– she’s never ever a female that does not have a strong viewpoint. The truth that she might be willy-nilly, like,”Donald’s the one that called so I worked and went for him.” I do not comprehend. And I’m not talking smack about Omarosa. You’ve got ta hand it to her. I understand individuals that ready at exactly what they do, and she is the very best at exactly what she does. I’m unsure exactly what she does, however whatever it is, she’s the very best at it.

So exactly what’s next for you now that you’ve had this experience? Does it make you wish to do more political interviews?

Listen, I believe individuals thought about me as, you understand, sort of an entertaining little clown that they’ve seen for a number of seconds or minutes on a red carpet or a late-night program. And I am definitely that. There is a lot more to me. And I’m so happy on this program I got the chance simply to take a deep breath and chill and have individuals truly learn more about me. I am captivated by whatever popular culture, which obviously consists of politics. I’m enthusiastic about it. I simply feel great that America voted me their preferred gamer. There were not individuals like me on tv due to the fact that we weren’t enabled to be on tv when I grew up. And now, on a significant network, countless individuals elected me! Which, to me, is more crucial than any title of”winner”of Big Brother than I might ever request.

Well, congratulations on that and all the best with whatever showing up.

Thank you– and listen, I would enjoy your assistance when they choose me for a Pulitzer Prize for my investigative report on Omarosa.