Imo, it is when the films simply haven't been seen to already say they can win just like that. Things can very well surprise you, or they may not even be in the running for Best Picture as well.

So true. In complete opposition to my predictions before the film came out, I don't think TDKR deserves any major Oscars and I think proves your point about people assuming way too much about Django Unchained and The Hobbit before having seen those movies. Six months ago, based on the trailers for TDKR, I thought Nolan had done it again and surpassed himself. I thought the film was a shoe-in for major nominations now that the field for Best Picture has been opened up to make room for critically acclaimed blockbusters. But TDKR wasn't what I expected it to be. It ended up being a major disappointment for me and it appears many other people. The same thing could happen with Django Unchained and The Hobbit. Django could end up being another Kill Bill or Death Proof. Tarrantino's record is not spotless and neither is Jackson's.

Interesting how the BATMAN in this BATMAN movie gets downplayed in those. Was it the same for TDK?

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Yeah, the SAG Ensemble is the only acting nod I actually thought it had a (small) chance of getting. Individual Academy acting nods are obviously out.

Not true. Numerous critic awards, like the NYFCC, LAFCA and NSFC give awards to actors for a body of work for that year– if Hathaway is getting nominated (and most likely she will) it'll be for both TDKR and Les Miserables.

Interesting how the BATMAN in this BATMAN movie gets downplayed in those. Was it the same for TDK?

There was one pundit (can't remember now who) who actually brought that up and said that maybe it's a tactic to not remind the voters that TDKR is a superhero film.

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Not true. Numerous critic awards, like the NYFCC, LAFCA and NSFC give awards to actors for a body of work for that year– if Hathaway is getting nominated (and most likely she will) it'll be for both TDKR and Les Miserables.

I was only talking about the principal ones (GG, SAG, Oscars, BFCA, BAFTA) and not the critics awards.

Yea Bale really did invest himself completely in the role. The guy gets flak for being too serious, but I like how serious he is about his roles. But at least he got recognition 2 years ago for work elsewhere.

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It's too bad, because if anyone deserved a nomination, it would be Bale.

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Yea Bale really did invest himself completely in the role. The guy gets flak for being too serious, but I like how serious he is about his roles. But at least he got recognition 2 years ago for work elsewhere.

Yeah... He's finally getting recognition now for his other work. I'm predicting that he'll get a lead Oscar nod in the next few years or so (maybe even as early as next year) and he'll get one more win in his career.

I see noms but not wins. Cinematography, sound, sound editing, visual effects, and other related nominations have to be in the mix.

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