United Workers Party (UWP) Political Leader Ron Green has said he renounced his US citizenship prior to the 2009 general elections and that he did not acquire his US citizenship “of his own hand”.

Green, who lost his La Plaine constituency seat in the 2009 elections, was responding to a question this morning from Mat Peltier, host of Mat in the Morning on Q95 radio station.

“I did have US citizenship but it was not of my own hand. And [out of caution] I renounced US citizenship prior to the elections of 2009 and I don’t think we should be shifting the topic and getting off topic. The topic is that the prime minister as an adult, as a minister of government, fully conscious, because it had been well known, went ahead and took citizenship of France,” Green said on the radio programme this morning.

It has been alleged that Green currently holds dual citizenship, which would have made him ineligible to run for elected office.

Political pundits argue that it is unfair that Green and his party are contesting Prime Minister Roosevelt Skerrit’s dual citizenship issue in the courts when Green also holds dual citizenship.

Queries about Green’s status was stirred up once again when it was revealed by investigative journalist Lennox Linton last Saturday on Q95 that Prime Minister Skerrit renounced his French citizenship on Feb. 5, 2010. Linton alleged that the prime minister obtained French citizenship on April 8, 2003 while still a government minister.

Skerrit was born in Dominica and his mother was born in Guadeloupe.

Green however said he obtained his US citizenship not knowingly as an adult, and that his US citizenship was renounced prior to running for elections in 2009.

The Opposition has called for Skerrit to resign.

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Like or Dislike: 00Kalinago EmpressSeptember 8, 2011

AGAIN!!! mr ron green did nothing wrong to contest elections ALL THOSE YEARS…. he got it as a minor (his u.s citizenship)… the law says if one get citizenship of a non-commonwealth country by HIS OWN HANDS.. then he/she can’t contest election for e.g MR roosevelt skerrit and peter st jean

Ron Green : “I did have US citizenship but it was not of my own hand. And [out of caution] I renounced US citizenship prior to the elections of 2009 and I don’t think we should be shifting the topic and getting off topic.

Can a UWP Expert clarify a few points for me: OBVIOUS DISRESPECT TO THE CONSTITUTION BY THE UWP?

I see that everyone is talking about the Constitution and their interpretation of it… the follow up phrases “..under any acknowledgement of allegiance, obedience or adherence to a foreign Power or State..” CANNOT be read without the ” by virtue of his own act”

UWP have gone on to say that “The effect of this Constitutional provision is that a Dominican citizen who wishes to become a Member of Parliament must have no allegiance, obedience or adherence to a foreign country or State. It is not only a matter of taking foreign citizenship or swearing allegiance to a foreign Power or State which disqualifies but also it is the voluntary acknowledgement of allegiance, obedience or adherence to a foreign Power or State which disqualifies a person from being elected as a Representative to the House of Assembly or as a member of the House of Assembly.”

They relied on the precedent set by “Trinidadian Court of Appeal case of William Chailtan et al v The Attorney General of Trinidad & Tobago and Farad Khan et al C v Apps. Nos. 21 and 22 of 2001” – to define when a candidate can be disqualified from being nominated, since the nomination of a person who is not qualified to be elected makes his nomination null and void.

So, can I not take it from their statements that from 2001 Ron himself should have been disqualified?

So tell me, since 2001 – they have known this, and Ron only just resigned in 2009?

Not sure I understand Ron’s response. If he became a US citizen as a child, received a US passport as a child, then fine. In the US, like most other countries, a child’s passport is valid for 5 years after which it has to be renewed. If Mr. Green ever renewed his passport past the age of 18, he, in so doing affirmed his US citizenship – as an adult. Secondly, renouncing i.e. going to Barbados the week before elections when I saw Mr. Green @ the embassy, and signing the form, doesn’t guarantee acceptance of your renunciation. So free and fair journalists should seek to determine when and IF the US government accepted Mr. Green’s application and when it was granted. Like Mr. Skerrit, it may have been accepted Feb. 5th? IF his application was accepted, his name should be posted in the Federal Register, as he still would not be absolved from an crime or tax or other liability in the U.S.

To the PM … if he was born to a French mother in June of 1972, is he not a Fench citizen as of then? So he too would have gained citizenship – not of his own hand. So, the application for and receipt of a French passport didn’t make him a French citizen. Normally citizenship comes first and then a passport.

If the PM has to face the law for his dual citizenship, then so too should Mr. Green and anyone else fitting the ‘bill’. Mr Green served the country as a Parl Rep, Minister and acted as PM during the UWP ‘reign’ in office.

I wonder if Mr. Green was getting a Social Security check from the US?

Did they stop the payments when he renounced US Citizenship?

If he renounced US Citizenship, and we know he worked as a Peace Corp Volunteer in the US among other jobs and possibly paid US Social Security taxes, he would be entitled to a payment of retirement benefits until his death.

So does renunciation of this Citizenship carry with it a loss of Social Security Retirement benefits?

Some of you say Ron Green is 67 years old (I am not sure) – but if that is the case, he would have been born in 1943.

For those who were born between 1943 and 1954 the full retirement age is 66.

So seeing that Ron gave up his citizenship in 2009, does it mean that he waited until he was fully retired as it pertains to the US Social Security Administration, then decided to renounce his citizenship?

Boy look questions and scrutiny – there are a lot of things that can come of this.

Some people say, ‘Be careful what you ask for, cause you just might get it”.

I am sure that Mr Green knew like Mr Skerrit that he would have to deal with citizenship thing but unlike Mr Skerrit he made preparations and did not tell no bold face lie and belittle the constitution. Mr Skerrit will go to court because all the lodge boys are there so he has a chance of winning there even if he knows that he has lost the trust and confidence of the people.

I hope one of these days the antiuwp people will tell us all why Ron and Eddo should not run Dominica. It is not good enough to tell them go back under their rocks tell us enlighten us why they should not rule. Anti – Hate and Martin De poorest please take your time and make your case. Just exclude all references to corruption, size and shape of noses, pimples and citizenship. we clear on that one for now. Please enlighten us.

I am a born Domincan who acquired US citizen in 1974 at that time Dominica was still a British Colony,Since Britain does not recognise dual citizenship does that mean I have lost my Dominican citizenship. Incidentalyy I haveregistered and voted in elections going way back as 1984 because my name was on the voters list does that mean I was bribed or violated a nebulous clause in the election laws and guidelines

I am disgusted to see how Skerritt is taking Dominicans for fools and many Dominicans including those who were supposed to know better are allowint themslves to be taken for fools by Skerritt.. What has happened to these people?? Unbelievable. Yes papa, this is is shameful, I have to put down my flag in shame and bow my head, I cannot continue to say proudly that I am from Dominica, I cannot identify with this foolishness.. Please stop shaming us..

Deal with Skerrit’s issue, Ron did what he was supposed to do.. This man and his citizenship issue was verified since in 1995, It was made abundantly clear that Ron was not responsible for his American citizenship, that his parents got it for him when he was a minor, he still gave it up, give him some credit instead of maligning him to bring up a GRAUD!! What is wrong with you people? partisan politics has eaten all you brian cells? Meit (SCRAPS) has vanquished your values? Yeah scraps, because Skerritt has made a nice little nest for himself, his empire streches far and wide.. This is is really taking all you for a ride, when he says to you that the only property I own iis a 300.00 house in Ville Case, LIE!! LIE!! LIE!!! Time will tell Skeritt. Even those Dominican fools you will not be able to fool all the time, no lie can be sustained for ever, nobody has be able to do that.. You are good, very good in deception, but time will tell…

Squeaky Clean Ron has finally come clean. Even then he is still not entirely clean – not speaking the entire truth. Let us all agree that Mr. Green gave up his US citizenship before the 2009 general elections. Did that renunciation (filing the application in Barbados) take place before nomination day? Did he go into the election as a citizen of the USA?. Did he file the objection claim to Petter St.Jean’s election even whilst he was a US citizen? When did the actualization of his renunciation take effect or when did Mr. Ron green officialy ceased to be a US citizen – as in the eyes of the law and not when Mr. Green thought it took effect?

In light of all the campaign regarding dual citizenship and qualificatiosn for membership in the House, I would have thought that these are basic questions which an objective and professional “journalist” would ask somebody of the ilk of Ron Green. After all he has been among those leading the charge against Roosevelt Skerrit and his qualification to serve in the house. So why not ask him. I heard Matt this morning trying to avoid the issue over Ron Green’s Us citizenship by asking the caller for evidence. Since when Matt needs evidencve to allege that somethiung is wrong? Did he know already that Ron had surrendered his citizenship and would have preferred that the question remained mute given his obvious love for the UWP?

The journalist should have asked as well about the legality of Mr. Green serving in three previous parliaments, one in which he served as a Minister of government and even acted Prime Minister. When he served as a Peace Volunteer, did he served as an adult or a child still under the protection of his mother who took all the oaths for him? Did he take an oath then swearing allegiance to the US? Or did dhis mother take that oath?. Did he ever renewed his passport as an adult beyond age 18? or did his mother applied and renewed his passport for him each time?

Earlier in the year at the height of their boycott, when the question was put to him he evasively answered by saying he was not an elected member, but Petter St. Jean as. Even his trusted mouth piece, the so called “born again” Christian who hate everything about about and in Skerrit was on radio this morning telling Matt that Mr. Green needs a visa to enter the US.His Christian conscience, if he still has one, did not care to provide the corect information such as when did Mr, Green began requiring a visa to enter the US. OH “Grace and Mercy” on all of us. he tried [playingsmart by attempting to dissuade the discussion on Ron adn to keep it firmly on Roosevelt. Of course Dominica’s

Ron you are not clean as you have allowed us to think. Again you have allowed Mr. Eddison James to have the better of you. See his wry smile.

please people you all are working yourself up over nothing. the pm need to recieve a jail sentence of over a year in order to be ineligible to contest again. i diubt this will be the case he will simply be fined and votd into power again. tht’s how i see it.

Old Man Don’t you give up? Lord. i am tired of reading about Ron green and UWp . Can’t they see they are a dead fricking party. Ron u are gooing down the ladder. From parl rep leader of the opposition now from leader of the opposition to Senator and you still lose your US citizinship.

WE ARE FACED HERE WITH A REAL CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. AND WHERE IS THE BAR ASSOCIATION IN ALL THIS??

SKERRIT SHOULD STOP TALKING ABOUT WHAT DLP HAS DONE FOR DOMINICA AND WHAT HE HAS DONE FOR LOCALS. HAND OUTS!

THE ISSUE AT HAND IS WEATHER OR NOT YOU WERE A FRENCH CITIZEN WHEN YOU GAVE YOUR NAME TO THE ELECTORAL COMMISSION TO RUN FOR OFFICE?? IF YOU WERE THEN IT IS SIMPLE, “YOU MISREPRESENTED YOURSELF.”

FOR EXAMPLE, IF BILL CLINTON RAN FOR OFFICE IN DA AND WIN WE KNOW THAT WITH HIS GREAT ECONOMIC MIND , HE WILL DO GOOD FOR DOMINICA. BUT THE QUESTION IS, WILL HIS CANDIDACY BE LEGAL AS HE IS A U.S CITIZEN??

SO WHAT SKERRIT IS DOING DOES NOT MATTER IF HIS POST IS ILLEGAL IN THE FIRST PLACE.

IT IS NOW TIME FOR MINISTERS WITH CONSCIENCE TO CRACK OUT AND ASK THE SAME QUESTIONS I ASK OF SKERRIT.

You have just confirmed what I said earlier. I made my point honestly and as best as I could but you have a problem with the truth it would appear. So tell me my dear friend at what point should the stable doors be closed is it before or after the horse has bolted? How many wrongs should be perpetrated by an individual before that individual is held accountable for his actions? What prevents you from accepting that something is wrong when you know that it is?

Papa Dom, I am with you on that. We at the UWP are calling for complete destruction. We have to act against Roosevelt Skerrit, because this is the only way we as a party will be returned to power. Roosevelt is going to make us suffer till 2025…

No way, our party will fini bat under Hector John.

So Papa Dom, we cannot make lennox do all that and disappoint the man…no way

My Dear WIKILEAKS
Please understand The Commonwealth of Dominica and its People will suffer and not the UWP. Tell me my friend if or when Skerrit(t) goes (unlikely) especially when others are in the same predicament and the Donor Countries stop giving AID(GRANTS/LOANS) what then? the DLP will win the next Elections

Except about this bias dual citizenship situation, who will take up the reins for our immediate future
3 Elected members and 4 Senators and in Opposition 17 elected DLP members. Think of the future DA my friend and not the Party, try to be a realist.

Hot debate. What do you think? 56ST.PAUL'SDecember 15, 2010

SKERRIT KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE 18-3 VICTORY!! WELL THIS IS NOT WHAT IS IN DISPUTE HERE. WE KNOW DLP WON, AND EVEN SOME OF US VOTED FOR DLP. BUT AT THAT TIME WE DIDI NOT KNOW THAT YOU WERE A CITIZEN OF FRANCE??!!

THIS IS THE ISSUE AT HAND AND YOU NEED TO COME OUT AND TELL US WHO HAVE VOTED FOR YOU WHAT THE TRUTH IS.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU HAVE TO RESPECT THE LAW AND RESIGN.SOME OTHER MINISTER WILL BE THE NEW P.M

king man….either you just st… or just wicked. ron was a child when he got his citizenship and the issue here is the PM after being confronted on nomination day his behavior was just too much. It’s time we dominicans wake up and face the light before we make DARKNESS BLIND US…

I ALWAYS KNEW THAT YOU AND YOUR RETARDED FOLLOWERS WERE SUFFERING FROM A MAJOR DIS-FUNCTIONAL PROBLEM. THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT INSANE, ARE EITHER ILLITERATE OR TOO DUMB TO KNOW THE DIFFERENT BETWEEN RIGHT AND WRONG. YOU ARE LIKE THE POT WHO KEEPS CALLING THE KETTLE BOTTOM BLACK. WHAT KIND OF IDIOT ARE YOU SO AS NOT TO REALIZE WHEN YOU HAVE GLASS WINDOWS, YOU CANNOT THROW STONES? PLEASE TRY AND FIND YOU A BIG ROCK TO HIDE UNDER. FOR ALL THAT YOU DO IS TO INSTIGATE TROUBLE AMONG DOMINICANS.

KINGSTOWN, St Vincent — Arnhim Eustace, leader of the New Democratic Party (NDP), which lost the general elections in St Vincent and the Grenadines on Monday by a razor thin one seat margin, said on Tuesday night that there was “widespread evidence” of a “conspiracy to try to defraud” the electorate.

He said his party will only accept the results if they adjudged to reflect the will of the Vincentian electorate.

Dr Ralph Gonsalves and his Unity Labour Party (ULP) were at the Argyle international airport construction site celebrating their victory in eight of the 15 constituencies when Eustace made a statement at 9 p.m. on Nice Radio, his first public comment since he led his party to a third consecutive loss.

The ULP was returned to office for a third consecutive term, although it lost 4 of the 12 seats it held in the last Parliament.

While Eustace retained his East Kingstown seat for a fourth consecutive time, he led the NDP to its third straight defeat.

He said there were reports of persons voting in constituencies where they do not live and that voters attempted to vote twice, adding that the NDP was particularly concerned about the outcome in two constituencies won by the ULP.

Lawyers were considering private criminal complaints against citizens suspected of violating the nation’s electoral laws, while the NDP was considering election petitions, he said.

He further said that his party will raise its concerns with the Organisation of American States (OAS) and other members of the international community, adding that the NDP “will not take evidence of cheating lying down”.

The UWP will nevr get voted into power bcause it is letting the people of Dominica dowm. The labour party is not perfect, but it is working for the Island development and future, while the UWP is just interesting in creating choas, mischief.

I am subject to correction and would appreciate some legal clarification. I believe that Mr. Skeritt is in breach of the of constitution of the Commonwealth of Dominica and as such should resign. Also Mr Green held elected office little over ten years ago was also in breach as he held a foreign passport. Is that belief legally sound?

you c thats y i cannot support no party…ron green cannot tell me he was a citizen on america and was serving in the cabinet illigal…ron u need to pay back all the salaries u got from 2000 to 2005…u were illigal and thats a fact mad by u…now mr skerit is just at fault….u c all of all u fellars that funning for office all u too dam greedy…all all u want to do is bleed dominica…u know wat i stop vote till we can get some honest people..but then again who on this earth is honest anyway

Lennox,
Please clarify. Since you sit and occupy the most sacred space on the pedestal of all that is correct, right, honest proper and since you coem across as having never sined in your adult life, can you confirm therefore that Ron Green as a US citizen, served as a Peace Corps of the United States to Tanzania or some other African country? When did he serve? Was it as a child or as an adult? Did he have to take an oath when he served? Was that oath taken by his parents or he was already an adult then? So if the above questions are answered in the affirmative, then It makes common sense to conclude that when Ron ran in 1980 (losing candidate) and when he ran again in 1995 (winning candidate of the UWP), he was in allegiance (of his own act) to the US. Was he wrong to have served in parliament then? Isn’t a wornga worng Lennox?

Remember Brian Alleyen had threatened to challenge Ron’s election on that very basis?

So we have a Prime Minister with two surnames. Reliable information confirms that Skerrit uses Rooevelt SkerriT (one T) in Dominica and when he was traveling on his French passport and he used Roosevelt Medard SkerriTT (two T’s)!!!!!

Public documents in Dominica show that his surname is SkerriT but his French Citizenship documents shows that he is SkerriTT.

maybe just an accident although it is highly unlikely for such accidents to occur nowadays seeing that one need a number of identification ducuments in cases where your name is bing put on a passport marriage ceritificate, driving liscence etc

the fact is we don’t have a Prime MInister because skerrit got nominated as a dual citizen by his own accord!that is the fact!what he should do now is be a man and resign and apologise to the nation also.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The lord said and a child will lead them. I am a child twelve years to be exact. What I can say on the matter is if it is wrong for one it is wrong for the other. People stop taking sides because of your party preference wrong is wrong. There is nothing like more wrong.

Ok! Now that the rabbit is running wild in the streets of Roseau, ca nous kay faire, mes amis? Do you guys remember the story of the Br’er Rabbit and Tar Baby? Oooppppsss, my hands are stuck…Oooppppsss, my head is stuck…Oooppppsss, I should not have struck Tar Baby…Hmmm…

Our constitution, and the integrity on which it stands, are in the hands of those who have chosen to not follow the moral and ethical conduct of the position in which they serve. If all that is stated about the PM (and let’s look further into Ron’s citizenship claim) is true, then our leaders have fractured our trust, and breached their agreement to govern the country. If we allow the PM (and Ron – if he is lying) to get away with a slap on the wrist, then we DA’ans have no faith in the laws that govern our land.

The problem is: I see no one in the opposition that is qualified to govern DA at this juncture – for the boys have only exhibited infantile attitude and bahavior.

I am not supporting any party and I am definitely not a UWPite. I stand for justice and our constitution. However, Ron Green is not the issue. Infact Ron rightfully lost his seat in the last elections and said he renounced his prior to 2009 elections which means that prior to 2009 he had his dual citizenship. Too bad we did not know that back then and it was not an issue. But Mr Skerrit knew that all Dominicans knew he had dual citizenship and instead of keeping a low profile since he knew he was at fault, he went on to make the most puffed-up, foolish and disrespective statement that I have heard from a man who is at fault when he said, “No constitution or law can prevent me from contesting the elections.” In essence he said our constitution means nothing to him and they (our constitution) is just too weak to stop him. That’s the difference. The man needs to learn to respect people, laws and constitution and should never think he is above others.

I wonder who the hell made you Dominicans the morality police. Instead of taking all those cheap shots at Skerrit, you all need to take a week off from DNO to clean out all those dirty skeletons in your closets. You all are so pathetic, it’s absurd.
Suddenly, all dogs, cats, pigs and goats want to talk about our constituition. Don’t you think you need to at least learn to spell the word?
Some of you are like a bunch of parrots on this site, just repeating everything you hear without knowing the facts. Skerrit is a human being like each and everyone of us.
At some point in our lives we to may have done something wrong. Stop pretending that you all are so perfect because no one is.

The Bible said for we ALL have sinned. Mark you, it did’nt say some, “ALL”. One never know where life is gonna take you, for all you know it might be your son or daughter in the hot seat one
day So becareful, with that pit you all are digging because you or your family may be the one who falls in it. Remove the mock first from your eyes before you take it out of Skerrit’s.

Based on the Jamaican case it is now a precedent that anytime you travel on a passport it is interpreted that you are confirming your allegiance to that country. As such, Green was forced to renounce his US citizenship. In fact, even if Skerrit had obtained his french citizenship when he was an infant he would still be in breach of electoral laws. GREEN TOOK INFRONT BUT SKERRIT TRIED TO GET RID OF HIS CITIZENSHIP THE BACKDOOR WAY BUT HE FORGOT THE QUIKileaks (no pun intended) HAD HIS FILES!!!!!

@ Trevor, it appears Green traveled on his US passport and affirmed his allegiance to the US by that virtue. When did he travel to the US? Remember he has been an elected member of parliament since the 1995 general election, until he lost his seat in the 2009. We can safely assume that he traveled to the US during his tenure in office (between 1995 and 2009), which in essence put him in the same boat as Skerrit. Green said he renounced his US citizenship prior to the 2009 general elections hence He was also in breach of electoral laws before the renunciation. You should also look at this from that angle.

The Jamaica ruling was very recent and that’s what set the precedence. You people need to read. Many politicians in Dominica and the Region have had dual citizenship. Earl has dual citizenship and many others. However, prior to the Jamaica ruling it wasn’t interpreted that by traveling on your foreign passport meant that you were reaffirming allegiance to a foreign power. Once the ruling was made Ron decided to “take infront” so he renounced his citizenship. Skerrit tried the same but his came two months after the December 2009 General Elections. I hope I have cleared up the matter.

Like or Dislike: 00AnonymousDecember 15, 2010

why did he take so long to take in front? He had every opportunity to do so before the 1995 election. It’s the same constitution right? QUIKiLeaks had a verus then.

Whatever happens in the dark, must come out in the light and NO LIE LAST FOREVER. Lies, deceit and fraud, all leads to the addiction of power. Once you in, it’s hard to come out. I am sure there are more to come. It is hard to believe that since 2005 there have been more allegation against this one man yet he continues to be the leader of the country. I wonder how long this will last for.

Yes indeed, there is much more to come.. This man Roosevelt Mardrad Skerritt is a little liar from hell! This man must have been created by a mounse! The lies that man standing bodlfacedly infront Dominicans and telling them, and those idiots believeing him is amazing! As you duh hear nothing yet! Yes indeed there is much more to come.. He sure is evil!

Hot debate. What do you think? 118Papa DomDecember 15, 2010

I said it before and I’ll say it again. I am truly disappointed at the level of ignorance, stupidity and blatant attempts to mislead displayed on this new site. People come on here claiming to be intellectuals, university graduates and in some cases even lawyers, but their comment reflect a total lack of understanding of the issues discussed and this topic is a vivid example.
My honest view is that Ron may very well have been in a similar position as skerritt, which means that at the time of his nomination he too may not have qualified to contest the 2009 elections but since we do not know whether or when he renounced his US citizenship, I will for now give him the benefit of doubt. He has said that he renounced his US citizenship before the 2009 elections and so it is up to us whether we believe that to be the truth.
That said, I will attempt to explain as best I can the issue at hand and the way things have changed. It used to be that the understand of the citizenship matter was a narrow one which focused solely on whether or not a holder of a second citizenship had obtained that second citizenship as a result of action taken by that individual as an adult. Hence as far as Dominica and indeed other Caribbean countries were concerned it was proper for persons like Ron and Earl to be members of parliament since they did not obtain their second citizenship by virtue of any act, done by them as adults. The missing and important element of the law which had been overlooked until recently was the “under obligation or allegiance” part. What the court has done is to clarify or redefine that part of the law. This has therefore shifted the focus from the narrow view of pure “ holding a second citizenship” to include acts done which affirm that second citizenship. What we are looking at therefore, and this holds true for Skerritt as well as Ron, is whether the individual being challenged has in some way, as an adult, affirmed his allegiance to another country. In this regard the court has ruled that obtaining, renewing or travelling on, a passport of that other country is an act of affirmation. So if indeed, skerritt did receive a French passport in 2003, whether it is the first or second he did as an adult affirm his allegiance to France.
So all this foolishness about Ron being in parliament since 1990 is just ignorant attempts to legitimise roosevelt skerritt’s violation of the constitution. The young man was warned that he was not eligible to be nominated; he knew that he was not but in his usual arrogant style he proceeded to get himself nominated. He was the one in control of when election was called, he knew of the latest development in the law and had ample time and opportunity to, either call the elections at a later date, once he had made the relevant change to his status or make the change before 18 December 2009, he chose to do either.
It therefore pains me to read the kind of asinine comments on here relative to this issue.

kUDOS TO YOU. This is our UWP Agenda to destroy Roosevelt Skerrit. Becase as long as he is PM, we the UWP has no chance in coming into power again.
Very well articulated by you , my UWP peer…..Blessings to you.

Wether or not Ron Green violated from 1990, this is insignificant now and it was DLP fault they didn’t take us to court for other memebrs of the UWP that had dual citizenship including Carbon.

But our agenda is to distabilize the government, cause chaos, protest, walkout and to confuse Skerrit that he will resign. And if our last UWP dolllar has to be spent in court, then is our damm businsess and we will spend the rst of the five years going to court

Since 67 years is the new 18years. Can Ron tell the nation whether during his years as a juvenile, that is 18 and 67 whether he ever applied for a renewal of his US Passport and if he did, was that not sufficient to alert him that he is now a US citizen?

Should Ron continue to lie? Wish to see how the Investigative Journalist Lennox Linton do with this topic, will he provide some answers to prove that he is now only motivated by lust over the PM.

See what green is doing. “I don’t think we should be shifting the topic and getting off topic. The topic is that the prime minister as an adult, as a minister of government, fully conscious, because it had been well known, went ahead and took citizenship of France” His statement reminds me of how the United States is trying to treat Iran. But for real tho Dominica really needs a political over haul. I foreshadow a little Haiti the things don’t change.

Ron this situation is surely a WIZARD HUNT. Like the others during all previous elections as a dual citizenship holder, you were nominated as a CANDIDATE contrary to the Constitution OF Dominica

There are more important issues to be deal with to secure the good of our COUNTRY

Stop this WIZARD HUNT and be sure you guys are targeting the WRONG TREE not as he/she is at top of the tree, those at the foot of that tree can create deliberate and offensive actions to discredit Think of it GUYS

People are we missing something? According to Ron Green, “I did have US citizenship but it was not of my own hand. And [out of caution] I renounced US citizenship prior to the elections of 2009 and I don’t think we should be shifting the topic and getting off topic. The topic is that the prime minister as an adult, as a minister of government, fully conscious, because it had been well known, went ahead and took citizenship of France,” Green said on the radio programme this morning.”

It therefore begs the question, Was Ron unconcious and was never an adult before 2009? Was Ron a member of (MND) Movement for a New Dominica? Was Ron Green ever a member of Alliance? Did Ron Green run for election for MND, Alliance and the UWP on several ocassions? Is Ron Green now only 18 years and thats when he realised he had US Citizenship? Is 67 years the new 18 years?

Assuming all that Ron has said is true, he never knew he was a citizen of the US when he obtained US Citizenship for his two kids?

It is clear that the opposition is on a witch haunt and that revelation to Dominicans, not me, that Ron, Eddison and Sprags and the others are just deceitful. Have Ron admitted he committed crimes during and after all the elections he contested. Should Ron go to jail? Ofcourse No. Should Ron pay back to the Treasury all monies that was paid to him during that period? hell NO. Should Ron now do the honourable thing and tell the nation that he misled them and that he is resigning. Hell YES. Is that Corruption on the part of Ron to obtain monies by false pretences now theft? Hell YES.

Should Ron not resign, Sprags John must now revoke his appointment as a Senator for the crimes he Ron has committed against Dominica. Now and only now will Sprags have a valid call for the PM’s resignation, other than that, the Opposition is malicious, vindictive, deceitful and worthless. Haters of the PM you have heard it from the horses mouth, who is more guilty? Hypocrits, who is blind and cannot see?

Has it ever occured to you that it was considered legal to be elected with dual citizenship according to the constitution if the foreign citizenship was obtained as a minor? However, a judge in Jamaica created jurisprudence in 2008 by deciding that if as an adult you enjoy the second citizenship in any way, then you can be held in breach….That’s a new interpretation and Ron has abided. What else do you want?
Skeritt’s case is different in two major ways! He was French not American and French law requires you as an adult to pledge…Open your darn eyes. By the way, this does not mean that he is nogt doing a good job!

You are grasping at straws and being an apologist for Skerrit. What else do you want. Tell the courts to hear the case after Christmas -not before as you man did with the ‘vote for vep ‘elections dividing Dominicans. The fact remains that Skerrit is damaged good sand he should go. End of story. The issue is on Skerrit and his illegally holding the office of PM.

Lets stay on point here folks-Mr. Skerrit is not honest and att his point he is holding the office of PM illegally. That is the issue. Please tell the courts to huury up becuse its time for Dominica to move on. In teman time we don’t have a PM WE DONT HAVE A LEADER. DA is like a ship in the ocean with no GPS or sail–we are heading for the over hanging cliff in the bay-we are in trouble.
That is fact and that is the issue. Skerrit is an illegal PM.

LOL. What goes around comes around. If Mr. Ron Green is saying that Hon. Skerrit was wrong, he too was absolutely wrong. Lest he forget, he was the Minister of Education and Leader of the Opposition also while holding dual citizenship. Claiming that he renounced it prior to the 2009 general elections, he is as guilty as Skerrit and so if all is correct, he Green also owes the nation an apology.

What makes RON think that his wrong is more right? Who in the world picks the UWP battles?

OMG!!! It’s like a bunch of morons! I detest politics…but these politrics are on a whole new level!

And the man has the audacity to say “I don’t think we should be shifting the topic and getting off topic.” What planet is he from? It’s the same bloody topic that you’ve been preaching for how long now. Now that the fire is burning you, time to jump out of the pot!

OMG! I hope that Dominicans wake up – if you can denounce Skerritt and Labour party, then DENOUNCE RON and UWP.

If Skerritt is so blatant and yet you guys detest him so much…. Look out for the snake that is disguised as “RON and UWP”, because they are hiding in the darkness.

We need some people with character, integrity and ethics running for office from all parties. Whichever party garners this candidate, let all the people get behind that individual.
Let the nominations begin and the others step aside.

It may be Reverse Psychology. Could be Lennox strategy to get at Ron for something we don’t know of.
He, of all people, knows the real situation. I like Lennox – After all he is my boy, an investigative journalist, he can’t say he doe know Ron’s situation. To bring this topic up at this time?

Ron must be saying..’Weh boy Lennox, why you didn’t stick to other topics like villas, garbage bins etc, you know how it is my boy….why you go there…you doe good en boy’.

Let me give my point on this matter,seems like this business of dual citizenship has been bypassed for too long, so now is the time for reckoning,i sugest that we either put all the law breakers in prison, or pardon all of them,we hear of skerrit and ron, but what about edo and earl? roosie,leo austin etc. the law then needs to be changed to accomodate these,or else too many people will be charged aven dead people will be brought back to life to be judged so let wisdom prevail.

This issue expose the intelligence of our people. It shows what type mentality that we have – still engulfed in mental slavery. Unless we start thinking for ourselves, unless we become pragmatic and sincere with ourselves we and our country will go nowhere but continue to be leaving in the Stone Age. I make this observation simply because I notice that the Laborites are in glory, jubilant that Skerrit could be exonerated only because Ron green may be a co- perpetrator. The guy who calls himself ANT- HATE for example, he accused DNO of being bias and only reporting the negative things about the ruling party. Today ANTI HATE is in glory because Ron Green maybe just the same crook as Skerrit .
The UWP supporters who blast skerrit on the same issue have now went into hibernation and refuse to chastise Ron Green. My god what are we doing as a people . Is that the kind of life we want for our children. Our ancestor were forced to remain in ignorance by foreign men and now we are inflicting the pain of ignorance on our own children.

As for me and my family we will continue to elevate our minds; be independent thinkers and not slaves of religious doctrines , political coco macaque. We’ve come to realize that many of these so called politicians have the brain of a toddler – They keep putting the foot in their mouth and poooop all over us. Oh how I wish that Dominicans would just elevate their minds. That’s thee only way forward .

FYI i’m not ‘in glory’ that Ron Green is a hypocrite. I am amazed. I always thought of Ron Green as being the most honest among the UWP leadership. Not that I think he would make a good PM because he is too old for that grind but I never perceived him as being such a hypocrite.

Also have you ever heard the saying, ‘If you stand for nothing, you will fall for anything?’

I support the DLP, doesn’t mean I support any wrong-doing by any politicians. You will never hear me say nothing is wrong with corruption.

Also, there are MANY politicians in government and opposition RIGHT NOW all over the region with dual-citizenship. This business about if D/a goes to war who he is loyal to is crap. We all know d.a isn’t going to any war.

The only time politicians bring up dual citizenship around the C/bean is when they want someone out and they don’t think they can beat that person at the polls.

Based on the statement posted here by DNO he states:
“United Workers Party (UWP) Political Leader Ron Green has said he renounced his US citizenship prior to the 2009 general elections and that he did not acquire his US citizenship by his own doing as an adult.”

Mr. Green if this is your defense then it is safe to say it is a weak one, with the case against the PM entrapping your situation as well.

An Adult Passport is valid for 10 years-in most countries. You have applied for and received US passports past the age of 18 more than once, we infer this from your age and longevity as a US Citizen. To be in compliance with the constitution from your point of view, you would have had to remain at 27 years for some 40 years. You did not as this is physically impossible as we all age every year. I know you are not 27 years old today, you are older.

If this is the defense you are using “did not acquire his US citizenship by my own doing as an adult” , it should apply to Mr. Skerrit as well. Mr. Skerrit got his French Citizenship automatically as a child in 1972 by just being borne of a mother who is a French National/Citizen.

The circumstances surrounding attainment of US Citizenship are unclear to me at this time, but all the same I accept totally your claim of becoming a citizen as a minor child.

If you claim that he (Mr. Skerrit) got a French Passport as an adult and therefore that makes him a citizen of France by his own doing, then the same will apply to you.

You renounced your US Citizenship in 2009, OK Sir, great!
We need the proof of you doing so.
Why do we need proof?
We need it because it is not a simple procedure to just stand up and say, “I doh want that anymore.” Where did you renounce it, in the US?
If so that is null and void.
It needs to be done outside of the US to be valid.

You needed to do the following and we need to see a copy of the oath of renunciation you signed.

Renunciation of U.S. Citizenship

B. ELEMENTS OF RENUNCIATION

A person wishing to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship must voluntarily and with intent to relinquish U.S. citizenship:

1. appear in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer,
2. in a foreign country (normally at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate);
3. and sign an oath of renunciation

Renunciations that do not meet the conditions described above have no legal effect. Because of the provisions of section 349(a)(5), Americans cannot effectively renounce their citizenship by mail, through an agent, or while in the United States. In fact, U.S. courts have held certain attempts to renounce U.S. citizenship to be ineffective on a variety of grounds.

To me personally, this is about political miscalculations and tomfoolery. The people who espouse the views which you and others in the UWP leadership repeat have never set foot into the political arena, yet choose to hide behind so called journalism and patriotism. You come forward and present positions that in the end are misguided miscalculated and just plain foolish.

The freedoms you claim that are absent in Dominica allows you to file a challenge to the 2009 Election results. I think you should be able to legally challenge things you do not agree with, but do not do so and then claim you are not free.

The interesting situation that will come up and possibly affect two members of the 3 UWP elected officials is interesting. Mr. Edison James and Mr. Norris Prevost, if they retained British Citizenship at Independence in 1978, should begin to take steps to renounce their citizenships of Britain.

So Ron green denounce his citizenship prior to 2009 election, so then he had his dual citizenship in 2005 election, 2000, and when he was minister of education. Dominicans, these politicians are six of one half adozen of the other…. let us save our relationships wwith each other and leave these politicians in their comess. AND I MEAN ALL OF THEM INCLUDING PM.

Dominicans ouvert zye zort – guess what there will be a compromise and we will be the loosers. The Deal will work out such that Skerrit nor Ron will go to jail. My only question is whether there is a statute of limitation on such a crime. If Ron was not illegible for office back in 1995 can he still be prosecuted?

Mr. Green would it be right to say that you owe the Commonwealth of Dominica monies that you received as salary from 1995 to November 2009? That is about 14 years of salary as a parliamentarian?

Sir Brian pointed out that problem at the very first meeting of parliament when you were sworn in as parliamentary representative yet the speaker at the time along with PM James brushed aside the truth!!!!!!

If Skerrit is guilty of receiving parliamentary salaries for the last ten years , who gives you the moral authority to condemn Skerrit when you exceed him by four years indulging in the very same scandal?

What about your friend Peter Carbon former Parlrep of Woodfordhill? Can someone just receive the opportunity to work in another country just like that? A politician at that from another country??

Mr. James is married to a lady from Barbados. He too can run away to Barbados and be protected under the laws of Barbados!!

Your newfound friend Thompson at the IMF is now married to a lady from St. Lucia and presently resides in the USA and that gives him plenty latitude to hide and have bank accounts away from the Inland Revenue of Dominica.

Man is high time Skerrit passes a law in Dominica that compels Dominicans in the Diaspora to pay taxes to Dominica’s treasury. If not give up your citizenship and right to vote in Dominica’s general elections.

And those people in the Diaspora better doh give no excuse that they sending remittances to Dominica.

I believe that anyone who breaks the law must be prosecuted that includes the PM or Ron Green. It is well established that the PM is a liar and a corrupt politician- no question about that. Ron Green on the other hand is not upfront either. Why did Mr Green denounce his US citizenship if he was not in violation of the constitution. Why in 2009 and not 1994 when they first came into office?

The question is therefore – “ Is Lennox acting on his own? If so then I want to give Lennox some more kudos as I think he is doing the right thing – exposing those A******* that lie, steal and cheat our treasury and sovereignty while in government. If Lennox is operating only as a UWP soldier and did not research the nationality status of members of his Party then Lennox really shut himself in the foot. If such is the case all Dominicans must still say thanks to Lennox because he has exposed the filthiness that exist in our political system today. Maybe it is time that UWP and Labor part supporters unite against those crooks.

i agree and support that.what goes around,comes around.goose plus gander.i have a feeling the P.M is sleeping well,while the opposition is loosing weight and getting drained over the P.M private life.first time in history i see politicians getting worked up or are being fascinated by “a” man.that ia sickening.

That is the biggest joke I have heard for 2010. you mean after all that talk by Ron and his boys he even worse that Skerrit. What are our politicians taking us for?
It just shows that the UWP are just fools and do not know how to handle any issue

When Ron Says He obtained his US citizenship not knowingly as an adult what does he mean?Does he mean somebody did all the paper work for him and he did not know? Whe papa….Man does lie…you hear lie….!!!!.
What happen to the Investigative Journalist…is for one side alone?
It just proves that LL is just a satelite and mouth peice of the UWP and no PATAT Investigative journalist.
He is a bias so and so and I have lost all respect for him and people like Matt

He means his mother or father applied for us citizenship and any minor kids they had, that is kids that are younger than 18, would automatically get citizenship. He had no choice in the matter.
Big difference here. You people are just to silly.

By own doing, by mother doing, by father doing, by child doing, by nennen doing, by priest doing, by Chinese doing, by Grabbakan doing, by bin bobbol doing, by tendering process doing, by villas doing, by silent protest doing, by lilac apartments doing, by between you and me doing, by parliament boycott doing, by birth right doing….

Ron Green say he acquired the citizenship from his mother while he was underage just like PM Skerrit stated so what makes me believe you Mr. Green and not Mr. Skerrit? I wonder why Lennox never saw it fit to investigate Ron Green but was quick to investigate Mr. Skerrit while Mr. Green has contested more elections than Mr. Skerrit. Hmmm, it seems is Skerrit alone that worth investigating.

you served as a minister,acted as prime minister during the uwp term in office yet you and your bunch of joker workers wants the pm to resign.what a big joke. you all commited a crime so its time to go to jail.

Clean all you backyard before all you try to clean someone’s own
You guys like pure fools now
because he was running for office while he had dual citizenship
and it seems he had it before the P.M
and he could renounce it all the time
and he knew it was illegal
Stop wasting Dominican’s time…
FOOOOOOLLLLLLL
LOL

Seriously, I’m really getting on edge now. Let’s round up all these politicians who have abused our constitution and send them to stock farm even if we have to build additional space and recruit more guards.

Our PM has been in office 4 too long now 2 be involved in such. He’s our leader nt Ron so he should maintain a clean slate or clean his slate!! i’m sympathetic 2 de PM if he did nt understand de constitution of D/CA cause most of we Dominicans seems 2 live with excuses n ignorance which we expect 2 be pardoned. On de other hand our PM speaks very ignorantly n rudely which makes me feel that there is no excuse 4 dis man actions cause he has no respect whatsoever n we Dominicans abroad n at home thinks that our PM general conduct is excellent. SKERRIT SHOULD STEP DOWN

Do not attack the PM personally. From your comments , you do have a personal vendetta against him. Read my earlier comments and what are you saying? Is it ok for one and not for the other? Who does not have the respect? When we do or say things, we have to think first. Sometimes we talk and talk and talk and when the truth comes out we are guilty of the same things that we were saying of another. When we speak, we should be blameless. Read again my comments – Jesus said to the woman – Neither do I condemn you… go and sin no more. When our neighbour’s beard catches fire, we must wet ours. We should learn from the mistakes of other. When we hear of others who have made a mistake, we must look into ourselves before opening our mouths, we must think. We must not try to create confusion especially on the minds of those who are less academically inclined than we are. When we are supposedly bettter of academically, we must not take advantage of the lesser as they will always look up to us. So some of us feed them gabbage and we make them hate and hate and hate. We have to empower our people. This is why the Lord has given some of us gifts to help others.

A litlle story to make my point. An elderly Woman was complaining how prices were high and she was adamant that it was the PM at the time who was causing the price to be so high. I smiled and I engaged myself in conversation with her and explained to her how the world economies work in the most simplest terms to her. To make a long story short, she listenned intently, asked questions and eventually lamented the fact that political opposition persons were saying is the then PM was causing price hikes. She felt very bad that she had repeated that which she was made to believe.

So in short, we must educate our people and not tell them any rubbish to get them to hate and hate and be angry. We will answer to that one day!

All the time people were saying he had and even when they challenged skerrit dual citizenship he Ron had said that he had gotten his as a child. so he could have said that inhe denounced his citizenship sometime in 2009.

What I would like to know is when is the exact date prior to the 2009 elections he renounced his US citizenship. Was still a US citizen during the 1995, 2000 and 2005 general elections? Was he still a US citizen when he served as Minister of Education, Sports and Youth Affairs?

If Mr. Green obtained his US citizenship “unknowingly” as a child, I am sure by the time he had reached the “age of reason” he would have known he was a US citizen. Furthermore if he had traveled to any other country as a US citizen, by that virtue alone he is adhering to the rules of a foreign state.

If Mr Green had traveled on his US passport (which I am pretty much sure he did) then he is in no better position than Skerrit.

The exact date is after the elections was announced for 18th December 2009 and he and his cronies had been on the radio lambasting skerrit about dual citizenship. When he went to the embassy and attempted to renounce, he put in the papers but his renunciation did not take effect before the due date for nomination because it takes time.

So technically, he was in the same boat as skerrit – if skerrit still had dual citizenship then, so did green. He would have been ineligible to contest. As others have said he contested and won in 1990, 1995 (became a minister then). The matter was taken to court and the court said he got citizenship not by his own hand. So the American passport is a lifelong document? It does not expire? Everytime he goes to renew it, isn’t he knowingly as an adult doing the same thing that they accused skerrit of? And they singing holy, holy, holy, corruption, etc. and all of them same thing.

Did you notice that he was not the first to jump up and demand skerrit’s resignation?? Why was that, since he is always the first to jump up like jack-in-the-box before giving the leader of the opposition the chance to respond. This time he knew, he knew, he knew – that’s why he did not say anything before spags. Hypocrites!!!!!!!

He renounced citizenship prior to the 2009 General Elections but he was a Parl Rep for how many years before???????? Even served as a Minister???????? What does this really say?! I guess now they really just looking for anything to come at the PM with!! Politicians eh boy!!! SMH!!! Only concerned about themselves!!! Stupes………. These days you can’t even pick a side to support! They all one commess!!!!!!!

Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 230Hey just giving my two centsDecember 15, 2010

So Ron you were also guilty since it is only prior to 2009, you renounced your citizenship. You were a minister of government prior to that and also an elected member and candidate prior to that. You see people as I have always said the pit that you dig for your bro or sis, you most times fall in it yourself.

hmmmmmmmm food for thought – the thing that you are vehemently pursuing , you are also guilty of it as well. Hmmmmmmmmmmm. Let me hear you all now!

Now let us move forward opposition and ruling party together to move this nation forward. Hope to hear some more renounciation for who is next ? We will be surprised!

Jesus said to the crowd when they had brought the woman committed with doing an act of Adultery – ‘the first one with no sin (fault) pelt the first stone” . ,Whilst he was saying this he was bent as if writing on the ground… They left one by one and then he turned to the woman and said ” I condemn you not … go and sin no more”.

ifyou were listening to mat in the mornin this morning when green was answering that questing YOU WOULDVE GOTTEN YOUR ANSWER TO THAT!….AND U WOULDNT BE SOUNDING SO SILLY ASKING …

Well-loved. Like or Dislike: 190unknownDecember 15, 2010

Don’t they screen for these things before allowing people to run?? Seems kind of backwards to me to bring the question of Ministers’ and Prime Ministers’ citizenship after they’ve been elected office. Ridiculous!!

YOU stop being Bias… didn’t skerrit proof just came out!!!!..idiot!! we need RON”S Proof. because that is the first thing that came in my mind… 2009 wasn’t the only time Ron went up for elections… so therefore, WHEN did it came into effect of HIS U.S. Citizenship??!!!

Like or Dislike: 00stupesDecember 15, 2010

whether or not ron got U.S citizenship doesn’t matter becuz he got it as a child…okkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
skerrit went for his as an adult.

Like or Dislike: 00Weather manDecember 15, 2010

Skerrit is not the only one who is lieing out his status as a foreign citizen according to Rons explanation how he accquired US citizenry is patently perfideous, Before one can accquire US citizenry one must be in possesion of a GREEN Card and be residing continuously in the US for five years or serve in the Armed Forces. One’s parent cannot bestow citizenry by virtue of their status as an American citizen,secondly one must take a test based on American History and Civics,secondly unless specially dispensated by a sitting Judge no one can swear an oath for another. Mr Green served in the Peace Corps way past his 17th birthday when he says he acquired his citizen papers, did he not swear allegiance to the US govt as an adult Incidentally ,exactly when did Mr Green renounce his citizen status
Come on Mr Green stop the hypocracy .