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<br /><br />You just pointed out something I never saw when I was staring at this sentence. That makes perfect sense now. Why didn't I see it the first time around? "About the nature of the soul" is so obvious now.<br /><br /><br />

<br />About the nature of the soul, neither with the poet I had felt, nor my opinion to change had I chosen . "I neither agreed with the poet, nor was I going to change my mind about the nature of the soul."

<br /><br />I just noticed my other mistake! I was so engrossed in trying to figure out what the verb tenses are that I totally "forgot" that they were both 1st person singular. And what led to my downfall was my determination to make animae a subject of the sentence. <br /><br />Now that I've been enlightened, your translation is so clear! Thanks!<br /><br />

I have a slightly different interpretation, if you do not mind <br /><br />De natura animae nec cum poeta senseram nec sententiam mutare optaveram.<br /><br />Concerning the nature of the soul, I had neither agreed with the poet, nor had I desired to change his opinion.<br /><br />(cum...sentio= consentio = to agree)

OK, opto, -are can also mean to desire (just looked it up!), and I agree, not wanting to change the poet's mind does make more sense. That Roman habit of ommitting possessives confuses me at times. I just wish they'd thrown more meums, tuums and eiuses into their work!<br /><br />Cheers

Good question... let me think about it...<br /><br />Ok, the tricky thing about implied possession is that it typically hints back to something that was mentioned previously in the context (in this case in the same sentence). According to my translation, although Phil's was also correct but perhaps not the same meaning as the author was going for, the sentence is literally:<br /><br />"Concerning the nature of the soul, I had neither felt with the poet, nor had I desired to change the opinion."<br /><br />Now this could be "his opinion" or "my opinion" or just "an opinion", but you should take note that in the first part of the sentence he openly says that he does not agree with the poet. He then says he does not desire to change "an opinion"... so whose opinion would he not want to change? It just seems to make more sense that "he doesn't agree, but he doesn't want to change his mind". It's just a good connection I think.

<br />Remember, I'm not a "quick study" like you are...<br /><br />Now that I know what the sentence means, I have to wonder, what in the world was I thinking when I tried to translate it the first time around??<br /><br />

<br /><br />I doubt it. There was a month long hiatus while I was doing work-related studies and projects. And while you've been studying regularly and learning all sorts of new things, I'm still stuck at 1st declension nouns, and a smattering of verb tenses.<br /><br />

<br /><br />I doubt it. There was a month long hiatus while I was doing work-related studies and projects. And while you've been studying regularly and learning all sorts of new things, I'm still stuck at 1st declension nouns, and a smattering of verb tenses.<br /><br /><br />

<br /><br />There! Now Episcopus can't scold me for only just finishing the first declension! ;D Personally, though, I think we're all doing really well. In fact, I would say that anyone who studies Latin, regardless of how long it takes them to complete a chapter or how well they understand it, is doing well just to study it.

<br />Yes, we all learn at our own pace. And it's definitely not a race to see who can finish fastest. Thank goodness! <br /><br />I find that Textkit helps keep me motivated to continue with my Latin studies. I never would have started if it hadn't been for the Latin grammars available for download on this site. My adventure with Latin started with D'Ooge's Latin for Beginners, which is an excellent book for anyone who wants to learn Latin. However, I have since moved on to Latin: An Intensive Course whose format appeals to me a little bit more.<br /><br />This forum has been a great source of information and a place for me to sort out anything I'm confused about (and there's a lot of that, as you can all tell!). <br /><br />

I've done all the declensions and the 3rd declension is phenomenally fascinating. Although the i-stems may be somewhat evil!<br />We are all still classed as beginners and in the same boat.<br /><br />I must learn faster for a reason now.