Rather than fixing rules orceasing violations, Oracle now promises to simply disregard them. If they indeed act as they have promised, then the JCP can never again become more than an approval body for Oracle-backed initiatives.

Everyone here (including myself) loved to bash Sun for their complete incompetence in everything related to user-experience, but the negativity with Oracle is starting to reach ridiculous levels. Gosling leaving, JRuby team leaving, JOGL being kicked out, Doug Lee leaving, Apple stopping... when is the last time we had good news?

I honestly don't really see much difference from before. Sure is a not the same guy now. But JCP has always been a bit of a "corporate overlord" at best. Either someone high up wants your suggestions or your pretty much out of luck. At least that what folks working with it were telling me.

As for having a corporate overload. C# has one, and its not so bad. Really i don't so any reason for alarm here. Its a new boss, and as far as i can tell, not all that different from the old boss.

Perhaps we will at least get an update sometime in the next decade.

Java was always a language under a corporate control. More or less.

I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious.--Albert Einstein

I honestly don't really see much difference from before. Sure is a not the same guy now. But JCP has always been a bit of a "corporate overlord" at best.

I'd mostly agree with that, but I consider Doug Lea a smart cookie, and one of the few individuals (not corporations) on the JCP. If he's giving up then it seems like a telling indication of how things are changing under Oracle, and it's not for the better.

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