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I just don't know what started this whole culture. 9/11? It's amazing. We went from "think critically and ask questions" to "EVERYONE IS LYING."

Three college drop outs and an internet movie.

Go to a book store, count how many books there are on a conspiracy to assassinate John F. Kennedy, vs ones that defend the Warren Commission. Last poll I read is at a/b the same ratio in regard to conspiracy vs Oswald. People make fortunes lecturing on this crap, writing books, big business. Cancelling the X-files didn't help.

Mods can delete this if they want. I don't even want to discuss this ****.

There you go. While in Russia he went to regions and mosques well known for extremism, and radical islam. Russia knew he was bad news, and b/c the FBI didn't find him making bombs, or waving a black flag, they shrugged it off. As in all likelihood, a judge would have probably turned them down for a warrant to do much else despite only being a naturalized citizen.

Meanwhile, it didn't take long for this to devolve into a political, or civil rights debate. Draconian measures being taken to take away our right to d/l porn and hack twitter accounts. Artemis and her immigrant husband being accused of being IRA, arbitrarily rounded up at gunpoint. Again, when has this happened in this country since 2001? Show me. Next I'm going to be lectured on the Japanese in internment camps in WWII.

No one has to tell me that all muslims are not terrorists. Do you think the people that followed Bin Laden's courier looked like James Bond? When you hear a/b a foiled terrorist plot in the US, b/c a terrorist tried to buy high explosives from an FBI agent posing as a sympathizer, he looked like Jack Bauer? If you believe that, you're naïve. Because they didn't, many of them were American born muslims/Arabs/Pashtu, who bust their ass and risk their lives to defend this country.

But when someone is getting tossed out of mosques here, and the Russian FSB warns you that he's associating w/ bad actors over there. One look at his youtube channel would have told you where his head was. Well, guess what would be civil rights activists? That's not crime. Otherwise, a lot of college professors would be under surveillance by "Big Brother", too. Judges want good probable cause for a warrant, they don't give you warrants b/c you think someone may be up to something. There's a mountain of difference between intelligence, and evidence.

In the end, this what it's going to come down to. Same deal as 9-11. Some of the 9-11 hijackers were on the CIA's radar. But not the FBI's. Because one deals in intelligence and probability, the other in evidence that can be proven in a court of law. In fact, before 9-11, it was illegal for the two agencies to share information, and for that very reason.

This could have been prevented. And, w/o crumpling up the constitution. Have to do better next time. Because there will be a next time, as you found out yesterday.

Man, I tell ya. This tragedy really shows peoples true colors. Conspiracies galore. I had to block & delete a few good friends over this.

If you think these sickos were framed and that you believe their mother you need help. Its only going to get worse over the upcoming months... Ugh.

A lot of conspiracy people are just scared. A lot can't believe you can find this on the internet or whatever. It's tough for some people to register because it is not an enjoyable thing to imagine. That your friend can be a terrorist who learned how to make bombs on youtube. So many look for stories or hints that would suggest it goes beyond two (previously) normal looking guys.

I just don't know what started this whole culture. 9/11? It's amazing. We went from "think critically and ask questions" to "EVERYONE IS LYING."

In the 14th century, it was Jews being blamed for the bubonic plague. In ancient Rome, Nero blamed Christians for the burning of Rome. The Pearl Harbor attack was Roosevelt's fault. Conspiracy theories are as old as mankind. The only thing that's changed is the speed of communication.

In the 14th century, it was Jews being blamed for the bubonic plague. In ancient Rome, Nero blamed Christians for the burning of Rome. The Pearl Harbor attack was Roosevelt's fault. Conspiracy theories are as old as mankind. The only thing that's changed is the speed of communication.

I read on the interwebz that the speeds could be even faster except that the Illuminati are using up all the bandwidth playing Words with Friends with the Masons.