Ive seen way worse in anime.... Also, Vivian's age was never specified right? I mean, even if there was porn, when she was created they sent porn of her? Why should anyone give a shit about this? She could be 18 for all we know, 18 year olds star in porn, even 18 year olds that dont even look 18.

lolita porn is banned because many people consider it to be child porn, lets be honest it is, but it hurts no one so i dont see the issue, of course some people make it crazier than this and make it like, baby sized lolitas but at the same time any kink can go too far,

No. No fucking trolls has a point guys, FunnyJunk is a well respected member of the internet community. When people think FunnyJunk they think "These are the respectable type of productive members of society who would never harbor imitation child pornography." No, wait, no... Its the oppisite, in fact you would think "These are the unrespectable type of unproductive people who would posses and frequently masturbate to images of sort-of child porn with cheeto dust fingers."

I'm trying to come up with a good analogy to explain this a little better for you but this is all I can come up with.

You're a politician whose running for mayor and you're being funded by numerous businesses. They pay for posters and they pay for commercials and in return they put their little logos on the posters and commercials to endorse their business. Then you do something like bash on religious organizations or a specific group of people.

What did you do? You tarnished your reputation.
What do the companies do? They pull their funding and they pull their endorsements from your campaign. Why? They don't want their reputations to be tarnished by your actions.

Websites work like this, you pay for servers to allow your website to stay up, you allow companies to advertise their products on your website to get the funds to pay for your website to stay up. If you do something on your website like openly allow porn to be posted on your website you aren't very likely to get companies to advertise on your website other than the advertisements that are posted on porn websites like the "grow you dick by drinking this" or "hot girls are in your area" and those adverts don't pay as much as google ad sense does.

So basically what I'm saying is reputation matters when it comes to advertisement and if the individuals who are on our website constantly post stuff like lolita content that has a close relation to child porn the adverts are gonna pull out.

When people think funnyjunk I sure as hell hope they don't think "unrespectable type of unproductive people who would posses and frequently masturbate to images of sort-of child porn" and I don't think anyone here does

I guess I look for different clues when it comes to age in less detailed drawings? Like height rather than breast and butt size. Then again it is a bit hard to tell from the perspective. To each his own I guess.

But like I said man when it comes to stuff like this you have to think like the average person you're used to looking at stuff like this because you've done it so often but if a person who isn't used to this type of stuff sees this, then that person will come to their conclusion and that conclusion will most likely be that it's a representation of an under aged girl

Yeh. It's good for people to have vent though y'know. I personally only like loli and it's not really a premier fetish of mine (My highest fetish is probably futa) I just hate the problem of "morals" always coming up. It's something impossible to prove just like different religions. It differs person to person and that's fine as long as you don't enforce it on other sane people.

Being fake has everything to do with it. If something is fake it doesn't harm anyone and might even help some people. Look at it this way: When real child porn is made you ruin a child's life and fake child porn doesn't do this. In fact, fake child porn probably decreases the amount of pedophiles that actually go after real little girls.

Alright say you're an average joe just going about on this website and you see that picture, you don't know anything about it, you don't know the situation, you don't care all you are seeing is what looks like an underage girl in a suggestive pose, half naked, Sure she's not real, It's not harming anyone, ok.
But imagine what you would be thinking to yourself if you saw this (keep in mind you still don't know who or what this is) You'd probably think the people on this site are a bunch of perverted shits who are into to little girls. Alright now imagine if the average joe was in fact an advertisment representative. Would you want to advertise your product to what you think are a bunch of suspected pedophiles?

Ok remember you have to think as the marketing representative not yourself, if you disregard it and your product is now on a site that allows individuals to view loli content people will figure out and come to the conclusion that your product is advertised on a site full of assumed pedophiles (the average person does not differentiate loli with child porn). What does this do to the reputation of your product?
Do you want to harm the reputation of your product, or would you choose to pull out and advertise somewhere else?

Depends on the product really. In any case, I think it's time for a cultural understanding of fetishes instead of a closet shut-out of them. It causes a lot of the problems we see today and there are plenty of worse things going on than fake child porn. It's a fetish and if you look around the net plenty of people have it. However, there certainly aren't THAT many pedophilia cases compared to the number of people that view loli. I refuse to believe that loli is as bad as say, a rape fantasy in terms of harm and I am completely fine with those existing, BECAUSE it's fantasy. No one in their right mind is going to do anything heinous and anyone who would do something bad is going to do something else anyways.

I suppose as an advertiser I might be a bit displeased but I think they would probably gain just about as many customers from ad stuff on a site and any media coverage would probably just help them in the long run.

TLDR; Loli and other "immoral" fetishes need to be viewed more logically by the public. Just think about how safe each persons own secret fetish seems in the public eye?

As an advertiser you would be displeased if the reputation of your product was closely related to child pornography and you might gain a small amount of new costumers from the website that allows the content but you would lose a lot of public relation with your costumers and will lose more consumers than you would earn. And the media coverage would definitely not help in the long run

I cant say I agree with you on your idea of being open with fetishes, a fetish isn't really something the average person wants to here about casually, I can see where you're coming from but you have to remember that there are different people in the world and not all those people can be as understanding as the people you meet online.

And another thing you have to put in mind is the "evolution" of fetishes. I don't know if you experienced this but as you view content you are more likely to view different content related to the same material, and keep viewing different content until you've moved on to something somewhat completely different. Like for example if you like watching videos of fly fishing you might move onto watching videos of deep sea fishing and gradually change content until you end up watching something similar but different such as hunting. The same thing happens with fetishes, you start with regular sexual desires and gradually work your way up to similar but different desires and from that you move on to other strange desires and not be as shocked to those desires as the average person because you've worked your way up to it. So basically what I'm saying is people who view loli content are not pedophiles but some might work their way up to viewing real child pornography and not be shocked by it as the average person might be because they are somewhat used to it, and by that they might end becoming regular child porn viewers and a few of those people are more likely to end up becoming actual pedophiles or child molesters in the future than the average person who never viewed any type of child pornography.

I don't mean tell everybody your fetishes I mean a world where everyone understands a fetish is just a fantasy, not necessarily something you're going to act out.

In the case of evolution of fetishes that is a pretty valid point but in a world such as the one I describe it would be really simple to draw the line. What harms other people? Children's lives are ruined by the production of child porn. They lose valuable stages of their life in moments when stuff like that happens so real child porn just isn't cool. It should be regulated and destroyed. However, people are far too concerned about the morals of other far less dangerous sexual tendencies and prefer to think about what 'might' happen rather than what already is happening. This draws a lot away from actual human problems and leads people into the gray area of rape fantasies, guro porn, and loli. It's something people don't like to think about or bring into the public eye because people are just too afraid that they'll be disliked for having their own fetishes even though it's quite clear many people feel the same way about this subject.

Aight I get you but sometimes fetishes don't always stick to just fantasy, You know, that's why there's latex sex suits and dominatrices in the world, because people want to act out their fantasies. If some guy sometime wants to act out his fantasy of fucking something that looks like an underage girl then it my be viewed as a problem by morality standards.

I get what you're saying but I don't think we're on the same point here but it's cool.

Anyways I think this is going on longer than it should I gotta start a analysis paper soon and I think this was pretty good practice.

It's actually not safe to assume that. I thumbed you down because your general side of this argument is wrong.

There are people in this world with a psychology that could drive them to molest or even kidnap young children and rape them. Anything that can help to reduce this problem, including animated cp (which has already been said to in no way harm real children) is a good thing.

In stating this fact I am in no way defending the people who would otherwise molest/rape children and especially not those who will do it anyways, but to say animated cp shouldn't exist because it's disgusting or whatever, when there is the very real possibility that animated cp could considerably reduce real cp, is absolutely foolish.

Look at the big picture here man. The existence of animated cp is overall a good thing.

Well I'm open to the idea that it could lead to a decrease in real cp, one could easily make an argument for the opposite effect. Having easy access to cartoon cp could allow people with those pedophile urges to develop stronger urges because eventually they get desensitized to the cartoon stuff, which could make them then want to go out and find/make real cp when they otherwise might have been able to just focus their urges in a different way. Like if you watch a lot of porn involving normal sex you go out and look for more intense stuff because the normal stuff isn't as exciting anymore. I of course haven't done scientific research on the matter but it seem plausible to me that this opposite effect could happen.

1. Softcore pornography is still pornography.
2. She was made as a child, everyone knows her as a child. A picture of her with no shirt and just her panties is fucking CP. It barely crosses the line but it's there.

all in the manga sadly :/ and Ren is addicted to crack.
Nana started working on a job to be " independent " and all that.
Blast was still going, but everyone got busy with stuff, I wish they made more episodes since the manga is still going, but it will make you cry!