Re: Deer on the farm.

Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:01 pm

Billy:

It is some nice to see pics of the property in the UP. Reminds me of back home a lot. The only difference is we didn't see too many deer where I am from, mostly moose. Since I have moved to New Brunswick, I have become a real fan of WhiteTail Deer. They are gorgeous animals and they taste great on the BBQ as well. I love all game, any way I can get it. You certainly have it good in the UP

I think that PETA should stand for People Eating Tasty Animals .. but I am not a fan either of trying to decimate any species. The Lord gave us Dominion but with Dominion comes Stewardship - Responsibility to use, manage and care for all that He has given us. So.... I think that since he gave us these animals to feed our families then we should do so responsibly.

Re: Deer on the farm.

Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:38 pm

cowboy wrote:. I'd be happy to swap Al some wolves for bucks!

Billy

I forgot to mention, we now have a growing coyote population here, thanks to fox hunters bringing them in to their fox pens where they train their fox dogs. Coyotes escape, start to breed, etc. The good news is they eat deer. Bad news is they're coyotes. So I guess after a while you won't be able to have an outdoor cat, chickens, or other smallish barnyard animals.

I have heard folks in their late 50's and older talk about how there used to be practically no deer here. I hope to see that sort of environment again one day but it'll probably never happen. If I could get blue tongue or chronic wasting disease (deadly deer diseases, I think I have the name right) in a bottle, I would spray it on everything I could find around here!

Al

Re: Deer on the farm.

Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:59 pm

Super A wrote:[I have heard folks in their late 50's and older talk about how there used to be practically no deer here. I hope to see that sort of environment again one day but it'll probably never happen.Al

Herein lies the problem... Hunters from our neck of the woods were sworn off shooting does by law, up into the 90's. They were fed the "if you kill the does, there wont be ANY deer left" line. I can remember it being a BIG DEAL if someone got caught with a doe....losing their guns, vehicles etc to the game wardens. After generations of people are conditioned in that mindset, its hard to get them to change. The changes in the laws for taking does changed S-L-O-W-L-Y. Now it has swung in the other direction, in that you now have tags that are ANTLERLESS ONLY. The other problem is all ethical hunters wont take meat to waste, and there is nowhere else to take it. My Dad feeds ALOT of needy families every year in our neck of the woods with venison. If there was a program for putting venison out for the needy (or anyone for that matter) it would help alot, but I only know of Hunters for the Hungry, which is all volunteer AFAIK and not able to keep up with a huge intake. I think the NCWRC dropped the ball/underestimated the whitetail comeback in the huge undeveloped and agricultural areas of eastern NC... Now there is NO EASY FIX. However since I live in the piedmont area now, and have limited hunting access... if you have some land that needs hunting... I WILL BE GLAD TO TAKE YOU UP ON THE OPPORTUNITY!!! I also enjoy turkey hunting!

Re: Deer on the farm.

Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:46 pm

clodhopper wrote:

Super A wrote:[I have heard folks in their late 50's and older talk about how there used to be practically no deer here. I hope to see that sort of environment again one day but it'll probably never happen.Al

Herein lies the problem... Hunters from our neck of the woods were sworn off shooting does by law, up into the 90's. They were fed the "if you kill the does, there wont be ANY deer left" line. I can remember it being a BIG DEAL if someone got caught with a doe....losing their guns, vehicles etc to the game wardens. After generations of people are conditioned in that mindset, its hard to get them to change. The changes in the laws for taking does changed S-L-O-W-L-Y. Now it has swung in the other direction, in that you now have tags that are ANTLERLESS ONLY. The other problem is all ethical hunters wont take meat to waste, and there is nowhere else to take it. My Dad feeds ALOT of needy families every year in our neck of the woods with venison. If there was a program for putting venison out for the needy (or anyone for that matter) it would help alot, but I only know of Hunters for the Hungry, which is all volunteer AFAIK and not able to keep up with a huge intake. I think the NCWRC dropped the ball/underestimated the whitetail comeback in the huge undeveloped and agricultural areas of eastern NC... Now there is NO EASY FIX. However since I live in the piedmont area now, and have limited hunting access... if you have some land that needs hunting... I WILL BE GLAD TO TAKE YOU UP ON THE OPPORTUNITY!!! I also enjoy turkey hunting!

You are exactly right. Especially about NCWRC dropping the ball. In my opinion they have dropped the ball on a lot of things.

I don't know who daddy has coming back to hunt next fall, but remind me and I will put you in touch with him!

Al

Re: Deer on the farm.

Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:33 pm

Nice place you have there, Cowboy. Always enjoy the photos in your posts. Thanks.