What if i prepare Aluminiumoxalate and heat it in an N2 floatet beaker or whatever - in the pyrophoric aluminium that forms - i pour some Ethanol with
example nitrostyrene - than i toss a magnetic stirrbar in and then add some acidic acid.

Is there not a chance of reduction potential to reduce to amine? Then we coult toss away the damn Hg

What if i prepare Aluminiumoxalate and heat it in an N2 floatet beaker or whatever - in the pyrophoric aluminium that forms - i pour some Ethanol with
example nitrostyrene - than i toss a magnetic stirrbar in and then add some acidic acid.

Is there not a chance of reduction potential to reduce to amine? Then we coult toss away the damn Hg

Welcome
to Sciencemadness.org yet-another-supposedly-New user !

I once had an interesting thought too.

Can't quite remember what it was.

Edit:

There is no 'we'. Please speak only of what You have done.

Appoligies in advance if you are a PHD in Chemistry attempting to engage with the uneducated populace by sharing Advanced Insights into reduction.

For metals that can't be reduced with carbon, pyrolyzing the oxalates will give you oxides.

Note: This might actually not be the case at extremely high temperature in a stream of inert gas to remove any oxygen that happens to form in
equilbrium, but you may have aluminum carbide as a side product.

Edit: changed "nitrogen" to "inert gas"

[Edited on 19-12-2016 by JJay]

This is my YouTube channel: Extreme Red Cabbage. I don't have much posted, but I try to do nice writeups once in a while.

Al can be used in some reductions. The problem with Al will always be Al2O3 which passivates the surface. You are right to suggest keeping Al from the
air will limit this, but good luck trying - especially with a fine powder and especially with oxalate as your starting material. Aint gonna happen for
reasons unionised explained.

Welcone to SM. aga is right that a bit of experimentation and some reading always beats random speculation. That is how SM works. The most productive
discussions happen as we.together reflect on experimental results in the light of published theory. But in this case I think your speclation will
lead to a dead end. I recommend looking at ways that Al has been used effectively in reductions and develop your ideas from there.

Except Zinc freaking turns into a GAS at the temperature of reduction. So maybe not... The first people to make Brass smelted calamine right in with
the Copper, and had not even seen Zinc as the free metal.

Whee! Which metal should we do next???

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What is your problem aga? I thought you knew some German? Who cares how he refers to the world?

Do you really have to be so frustrated to new members every time? This new member comes here to get some information to do some experiments and you
are just short of telling him or her to bugger of.

Besides, you don't do much experiments either besides burning bread. I really like what you did with those trophies, but please stop being such a high
flying wannabe king of the forum while constantly wining about practical work being done or not.

you have misunderstood - i not actually mean that any user should help me with my "experiments" in form that anyone go to his lab and try it - It's
just a joke by "we" that's why an Smiley occours - i think it's becouse i am german - i have not expected such an strictly handling of words.