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I live in Dublin city(originally from down the country) for the last 5 years. I have to say some of the littering I see up here is an absolute disgrace. I have lived in Dublin 7, 8 and 12 and they all have their own various issues. Most revolve around youngsters loitering around shops and chippers just throwing stuff on the ground, but then you have people who throw black bags around various places in the city. The amount of times I have seen black bags int he canal is crazy. I find this repulsive, I don't know who or why people would do this.

Is it a lack of education? Lack of pride in ones area? The attitude that it is someone elses problem? Or is it just that some city people are so out of touch with nature and the environment that they think it is ok to just dump rubbish anywhere without consequence?

But it isn't just city people. Look at the state of rural Ireland. Small farms looking like complete kips, with dilapidation of walls, wrecks discarded in fields and fly tipping.

We have a weak civic structure, and you'll find that most people here will actually defend it when pressed. Can't be having rules for us all to live by, you know. That's oppression, and usually oppression of the poor apparently.

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Dog owners will give you the travellers speil - vast majority clean up after their dogs, and the actions of a very small minority give the rest a bad name. Bollicks. If you see someone with a dog, who isn't male, and isn't under 40, then their dog sh1t is almost certainly on the sole of your shoes. At least in 40 years time death will have worked it's wonders and improved the situation somewhat.

Punishment for anyone who doesn't pick up after their dog should be a visit from a non-dog owner, to take a morning dump on their doorstep.

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Dog owners will give you the travellers speil - vast majority clean up after their dogs, and the actions of a very small minority give the rest a bad name. Bollicks. If you see someone with a dog, who isn't male, and isn't under 40, then their dog sh1t is almost certainly on the sole of your shoes. At least in 40 years time death will have worked it's wonders and improved the situation somewhat.

Punishment for anyone who doesn't pick up after their dog should be a visit from a non-dog owner, to take a morning dump on their doorstep.

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Because - as they'll tell you if challenged - every piece of litter that they drop represents an employment opportunity for someone else.

"Duh, if everyone stopped dropping litter, the all those street cleaners would lose their jobs." I describe it as the Club Retard mindset - prominent SP poster and underqualified educator of our young people Making Wind would probably agree.

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A lack of self respect and respect for others. I'm staying not far from jobstown at the moment and that area is an absolute kip. Not just general litter but household waste strewn across green areas. The back of the housing estates near cheeverstown look like early stage landfill sites. I guess these are deprived areas but no need to be deprived of self respect and respect for one's neighbours.

Ya, fair enough but me and you know it isn't being enforced, yet we don't do it.

There is an issue at play here where people don't have pride in their areas or don't understand the damage littering does.

Honestly, the canal area between Portobello and Dolphins barn is an absolute disgrace. Simply put cameras there and catch those responsible.

Interesting though from Portobello on towards Dublin 4 the canal gets noticeably cleaner and more rubbish free. Is this because there are more resources put into cleaning it or is it because the locals are more responsible?

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Ya, fair enough but me and you know it isn't being enforced, yet we don't do it.

There is an issue at play here where people don't have pride in their areas or don't understand the damage littering does.

Honestly, the canal area between Portobello and Dolphins barn is an absolute disgrace. Simply put cameras there and catch those responsible.

Interesting though from Portobello on towards Dublin 4 the canal gets noticeably cleaner and more rubbish free. Is this because there are more resources put into cleaning it or is it because the locals are more responsible?

There are cameras. The courts refuse to convict on the basis of video evidence. The issue is that, to the mind of the court, dumpers caught on camera aren't sufficiently identifiable.

Its complete nonsense, because the courts happily accept video evidence in other types of cases - murder cases for example.

Courts have convicted when the person's car reg has been captured - so people just park around the corner and walk with the bags. They know where the cameras are - the law says the cameras must be clearly marked.

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Ya, fair enough but me and you know it isn't being enforced, yet we don't do it.

There is an issue at play here where people don't have pride in their areas or don't understand the damage littering does.

Honestly, the canal area between Portobello and Dolphins barn is an absolute disgrace. Simply put cameras there and catch those responsible.

Interesting though from Portobello on towards Dublin 4 the canal gets noticeably cleaner and more rubbish free. Is this because there are more resources put into cleaning it or is it because the locals are more responsible?

I lived for a while near Portobello and the canal the morning after a sunny day was a tip of empty beer cans, bottles and food wrappers from hipsters, students and scumbags knacker drinking by the canal. A shame as it's a nice looking area by the canal but ruined by people.