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alt.music.moxy-fruvous digest Tuesday, June 15 1999 Volume 03 : Number 496
Today's Subjects:
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Re: the war on gayness [SkyStar117@aol.com]
Re: Calling down the Thunder (this is LONG) [tsalyers@dimensional.com (To]
petty bickering [Caitlin ]
Re: the war on gayness [tsalyers@dimensional.com (Tom Salyers)]
Re: It's not just for breakfast anymore... [Leah Bender ]
Re: the war on patrick [luckydabed@aol.com.la.deda (Maria)]
the answer to the mystery of eleanor rigby [SkyStar117@aol.com]
Re: You've inspired a post from me, congratulations :) [Kevin Way ]
Re: the war on gayness [Leah ]
TACT--->A WORKING DEFINITION (was Re: boulder show review) (fwd) [Lynne ]
canadian bootleg club [nslife ]
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:15:44 GMT
From: SkyStar117@aol.com
Subject: Re: the war on gayness
In a message dated 99-06-14 23:33:35 EDT, you write:
<< Let's take a term that our frulads tend to use often. "fuck." I
believe, and someone can correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe that
"fuck" referred to sexual intercourse originally. "fucking" would be
individuals taking part in the actual activity. "fucker" would be one of
the individuals, etc. >>
FUCK...ok.
F.U.C.K.- *F*or *U*nder *C*arnal *K*nowledge.
like sex or something.
dates back to Puritain MassBay colony culture......maybe further. anyway.
yeah. kinda like scarlet letter.
- -debs/sneaking back into the history nerd closet and resumes reading text
books by flashlight. FOR FUN. yes fun. i like learning things. y'all know
what they say about not knowing knowledge...(, lb8226@cnsvax.albany.edu (Leah) says...
> I really truly believe that knowing which album a song is on is not a
> prerequisite to posting an opinion in this ng.
That's not what she said at all. She said it wouldn't hurt, not that
it was some kind of iron-clad requirement.
- --
Tom
Thinking that we could all stand to drink heavily right about now...
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 21:23:59 -0700
From: Caitlin
Subject: petty bickering
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, Vika Zafrin wrote:
> Argh. Stoppitstoppitstoppit.
Everything that Vika said. Plus this: is it really that slow a week in
fruville? Is it time to start yet another silly discussion? I think
yes...
So assuming we all know what band you've seen the *most* frequently...
what band have you seen the second most number of times in the last year?
(warned you it was pointless. But since we've apparently all been struck
by the need to post, post, and post again... let's at least play nice!)
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:18:46 -0600
From: tsalyers@dimensional.com (Tom Salyers)
Subject: Re: the war on gayness
In article <19990614.211425.3566.5.TMBgirl@juno.com>, tmbgirl@juno.com
(tmbgirl@juno.com) says...
> Let's take a term that our frulads tend to use often. "fuck." I
> believe, and someone can correct me if i'm wrong, but i believe that
> "fuck" referred to sexual intercourse originally.
Okay, I'm going to cement my reputation as a geek here....
Main Entry: fuck
Pronunciation: 'f&k
Function: verb
Etymology: akin to Dutch fokken to breed (cattle), Swedish dialect fokka
to copulate
Date: 1503
intransitive senses
1 usually obscene : COPULATE -- sometimes used in the present participle
as a meaningless intensive
2 usually vulgar : MESS 3 -- used with with
transitive senses
1 usually obscene : to engage in coitus with -- sometimes used
interjectionally with an object (as a personal or reflexive
pronoun) to express anger, contempt, or disgust
2 usually vulgar : to deal with unfairly or harshly : CHEAT, SCREW
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 05:04:07 GMT
From: Leah Bender
Subject: Re: It's not just for breakfast anymore...
:::cracks up:::
should I start about the hemmorhoid cream/toothpaste, or.....
- -Bender
(Whee!)
>From: "Michael G. Maki"
>To: ammf@fruvous.com
>Subject: It's not just for breakfast anymore...
>Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 20:48:47 -0500
>
>Just for the record, AdamH once ate a piece of Meow Mix thinking it was an
>errant Lucky Charm.
>
>mm
>
>
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:59:45 -0600
From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)
Subject: Re: Calling down the Thunder (this is LONG)
In article ,
tsalyers@dimensional.com says...
> Thinking that we could all stand to drink heavily right about now...
But whatever we do, we must not link arms and sway. Because that would
only be stupid.
k@
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:59:34 GMT
From: "A.J. LoCicero"
Subject: OT: Uncle Bonsai
KatieWow wrote:
>
> uncle bonsai? did you say UNCLE BONSAI?!?
> you're awesome. i thought that rodney and i were teh only two people in the
> world who knew them :).
> ~~kate
Nope, there's Lisa and I and my mom. :)
A.J.
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Date: 15 Jun 1999 04:45:25 GMT
From: luckydabed@aol.com.la.deda (Maria)
Subject: Re: the war on patrick
Leah wrote:
>people think it
>means something like idiot or jerk is exactly the problem. Yes, you may
>mean it in this way, but it carries other meanings immbedded in it.
I guess I never realized it. I never use the term "pansy", but just the same I
was wrong about assuming it wouldn't offend people.
> It is
>part of a culture which is very unfriendly towards gays, lesbians, and in
>general anyone who doesn't quite fit. When on child says another is gay,
>he/she may mean that the other person is stupid, but what does this say to
>the kid about gays? That they are stupid. There's something wrong with
>that. While intension is one thing, effect >is another.
Yes, I understand that. I wasn't trying to say that insulting somebody by
calling them gay was alright and not offensive. I get very testy when people
say, "Oh, that is SO gay". I was merely pointing out I never knew that calling
someone "pansy" was used as an insult to gays. I can't help misinterpreting
things.
maria
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 04:51:16 GMT
From: SkyStar117@aol.com
Subject: the answer to the mystery of eleanor rigby
In a message dated 99-06-15 00:03:17 EDT, vika wonders:
<< And I always *have* wondered who the
hell Eleanor Rigby was.>>
ok so i'm reading this bio of the beatles and according to Paul (as told to
Hunter Davies in his book The Beatles):
" I was sitting at the piano when I thought of it. Just like Jimmy Durante.
The first bars just came to me. And I got this name in my head: Daisy
Hawkins, picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been. I don't
know why. I can hear a whole song in one chord. In fact,I think you can hear
a whole song in one note, if you listen hard enough. But no one ever listens
hard enough. OK, so that's the Joan of Arc bit. i couldn't think of much
more, so I put it away for a day. Then the name Father McCartney came to me-
and all the lonely people. But I thought people would think it was supposed
to be my Dad, sitting knitting his socks. Dad's a happy lad. So I went
through the telephone book and I got the name McKenzie. I was in Bristol when
I decided Daisy Hawkins wasn't a good name. I walked round looking at the
shops and I saw the name Rigby. You got that? Quick pan to Bristol. I can
just see this all as a Hollywood musical......Then I took it down to John's
house in Weybridge. We sat around, laughing, got stoned and finished it off.
I thought of the backing, but it was George Martin who finished it off. I
just go bash, bash on the piano. He knows what I mean. All our songs come out
of our imagination. There never was an Eleanor Rigby."
jeez that took forever to transcribe.
that answer the big question? i hope so:)
- -deb/who wishes her dad was also a happy lad.
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 00:56:58 -0400
From: Kevin Way
Subject: Re: You've inspired a post from me, congratulations :)
> Whoa. How's that for anti-Commie propaganda being burned into
> people's brains.
>
> No, Laika did not starve to death. Yes, she did burn up on re-entry.
> Yes, it is true that the shuttle was not equipped for landing. Yes,
> there was *much* controversy about this in the Soviet Union, and they
> made a conscious decision to send a *stray* dog into space, figuring
> that if they didn't, she would probably be one of, literally,
> thousands of strays who died on the streets of Russia. Many of the
> strays were cared for, but their lot wasn't much better than that of
> the dogs that end up in pounds in the States.
>
> It was interesting reading this post on a largely-US-and-
> Canada-based newsgroup, where much animal experimentation goes on For
> The Good Of Humanity. Double standard? Yes, but what scares me more
> is that it's probably *still*, years after the Cold War ended, largely
> subconscious, so ingrained is it in so many people's brains.
My mistake. I apologize for the inaccuracy of my original statement, it was
certainly not meant as anti-russian propoganda. And you see, this is a perfect
demonstration of why you should never take anything you read on the internet as
fact. My apologies, and thank you for explaining the full story Vika.
Kevin "needs to do more research before posting" Way
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 22:34:57 -0600
From: tsalyers@dimensional.com (Tom Salyers)
Subject: Re: Etymology (was: the war on gayness)
In article <1ce1c74e.24972ba8@aol.com>, SkyStar117@aol.com
(SkyStar117@aol.com) says...
> F.U.C.K.- *F*or *U*nder *C*arnal *K*nowledge.
> like sex or something.
> dates back to Puritain MassBay colony culture......maybe further. anyway.
> yeah. kinda like scarlet letter.
No, no, no. This is an etymological urban legend. =)
To further reveal me as an utter geek, this from
http://www.wilton.net/wordorf.htm:
Fuck
Popular etymologies agree, unfortunately incorrectly, that this is an
acronym meaning either Fornication Under Consent of the King or For
Unlawful Carnal Knowledge. The latter usually accompanying a story about
how medieval prisoners were forced to wear this word on their clothing.
Deriving the etymology of this word is difficult, as it has been under a
taboo for most of its existence and citations are rare. The earliest
known use, according to AHD3 and HDAS, predates 1500 and is from a poem
written in a mix of Latin and English and entitled 'Flen flyys.' The
relevant line reads:
"Non sunt in celi quia fuccant uuiuys of heli."
Translated:
"They [the monks] are not in heaven because they fuck the wives of
Ely [a town near Cambridge]."
Fuccant is a pseudo-Latin word and in the original it is written in
cipher to further disguise it.
AYTO mentions the word's use in 1278 as a personal name, John le Fucker,
but fails to provide a citation. The earliest usage cite in the OED2
dates from 1503 and is in the form 'fukkit.' The earliest cite of the
current spelling is from 1535.
The word was not in common (published) use prior to the 1960s.
Shakespeare did not use it, although he did hint at it for comic effect.
In Merry Wives of Windsor (IV.i) he gives us the pun "focative case." In
Henry V (IV.iv), the character Pistol threatens to "firk" a French
soldier, a word meaning "to strike," but commonly used as an Elizabethan
euphemism for fuck. In the same play (III.iv), Princess Katherine
confuses the English words "foot" and "gown" for the French "foutre" and
"coun" (fuck and cunt, respectively) with comic results. Other poets did
use the word, although it was far from common. Robert Burns, for example,
used it in an unpublished manuscript.
The taboo was so strong that for 170 years, from 1795 to 1965, fuck did
not appear in a single dictionary of the English language. In 1948, the
publishers of The Naked and the Dead persuaded Norman Mailer to use the
euphemism "fug" instead, resulting in Dorothy Parker's comment upon
meeting Mailer: "So you're the man who can't spell fuck."
The root is undoubtedly Germanic, as it has cognates in other Northern
European languages: Middle Dutch fokken meaning to thrust, to copulate
with; dialectical Norwegian fukka meaning to copulate; and dialectical
Swedish focka meaning to strike, push, copulate, and fock meaning penis.
Both French and Italian have similar words, foutre and fottere
respectively. These derive from the Latin futuere.
While these cognates exist, they are probably not the source of fuck,
rather they probably come from a common root. Most of the early known
usages of the English word come from Scotland, leading some scholars to
believe that the word comes from Scandinavian sources. Others disagree,
believing that the number or northern cites reflects that the taboo was
weaker in Scotland and the north, resulting in more surviving usages. The
fact that there are citations, albeit fewer of them, from southern
England dating from the same period seems to bear out this latter
theory.
For more information on fuck and its usages, see The F Word, by Jesse
Sheidlower, Random House, 1995, ISBN 0-679-76427-5. This is perhaps the
most complete treatment of the word available.
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Date: 15 Jun 1999 05:15:59 GMT
From: luckydabed@aol.com.la.deda (Maria)
Subject: Re: Etymology (was: the war on gayness)
Wow
maria
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:05:45 -0600
From: tsalyers@dimensional.com (Tom Salyers)
Subject: Re: Calling down the Thunder (this is LONG)
In article ,
katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin) says...
> But whatever we do, we must not link arms and sway. Because that would
> only be stupid.
"Eleven milkmen is just barely on the edge of plausibility.
Twelve would be silly."
Ten points to whoever can name the movie that's paraphrased
from.
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 05:12:34 GMT
From: "A.T. Schrader"
Subject: Fruvous Literary Magazine Update - Attention all folks creative!
wow! can it be? we're acutally going to get this
project up and rolling??? *cool!*
so this is me (amy) on behalf of the lit mag crew
asking anyone who is in any way, shape, or form
creative to submit their work to us for the Fruvous
Lit Mag. Please please please keep in mind that this
does not mean the material submitted has to have
Fruvous reference or content...actually, the opposite
would be just a wonderful because i know you people
are a creative bunch and it would be great to see
another side of this creativity.
**All work submitted must be sent to the following
address - adifru@hotmail.com anything that is sent as
just a reply to this message will not be considered**
Of course however, since it is a *fruvous* lit
mag...here are some really great ideas that the crew
has come up with...PLEASE feel free to submit stuff
for the following:
~concert stories: have a great pre/during/post show
event that happened to you? story about meeting the
guys? fru-tripping story? here's you chance to write
down your memories and share em with others...
~an "other bands" column where fruhead/fans can write
reviews of other bands that they think others would
like....always a very popular topic round here ^_^
~a review of books from the "My Baby Loves a Bunch of
Authors" authors, or other fruvous-related
books...another favorite in this place ^_^
~fruvous filks...i for one think those are great!
~and of course and other fruvous or non-fruvous
related stories, poems, plays, hikus, *anything*...
All material must be submitted NO LATER than July 15th
(however, if we start to get swamped with material, i
may shorten the deadline - who knows, this could
become an annual thing).
ok, that's it for now. let the party begin!
Amy - who is beyond excited about this project ^_^
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 23:50:09 -0600
From: katrin@dimensional.com (Katrin)
Subject: Sorry, KatieWow
Yet another personal message...
Katie - I tried mailing both of those addresses you sent me, and both
messages bounced back. When do you plan to be on IRC next? Maybe we can
discuss things there.
k@
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 05:40:33 GMT
From: "A.J. LoCicero"
Subject: Re: You've inspired a post from me, congratulations :)
Kevin Way wrote:
> > Because Laika is a song about the dog, Laika, that the Russians sent up
> > into space and surprise, surprise, left her there. So the last point made
> > was that the band was playing hail to the chief, that the nation was so
> > happy about this, but really all they'd done was find a really expensive
> > and exotic way to starve a dog to death.
Um, I think you have that a bit wrong there Kevin. Hail to the Chief is the anthem
of the US PRESIDENT. There is no way that that is a Soviet band playing that. It is
not about Laika at all. The allusions at work there are about the American space
program with which we (of my generation at least) were all so tied up with as kids.
The singer of the song on the one hand lives life in a fantasy world where he is a
space hero (The band plays Hail to the Chief because the President is coming to honor
him) but at the same time he can't get the girl to to notice him. He feels abandoned
like Laika was. It is not about anything to do with the Soviet space program versus
the American one. It is about what goes on in this one boys head.
Then Vika Zafrin wrote:
> Whoa. How's that for anti-Commie propaganda being burned into
> people's brains.
Hrm... I wouldn't think that is anti-Commie propaganda there Veek, looks more like
simple lack of knowledge on Kevin's part to me. I don't believe anyone over here
ever really tried to make a big deal about the Soviet space program being cruel to
its animals. In those days nobody cared about stuff like that anyway. Our space
program involved shooting animals into space with no way to get down too. There was
nothing all that unusual about what the Soviets did with Laika. They just did it
first, which was indeed a triumph.
> It was interesting reading this post on a largely-US-and-
> Canada-based newsgroup, where much animal experimentation goes on For
> The Good Of Humanity. Double standard? Yes, but what scares me more
> is that it's probably *still*, years after the Cold War ended, largely
> subconscious, so ingrained is it in so many people's brains.
I don't know about that. There is some cold war baggage ingrained in all our heads,
to be sure, but I don't think that is at work here so much (except for Kevin's
"surprise, surprise" quip maybe). Rather I think that people are now much more aware
of how nasty animal research is, and are accordingly less comfortable with it.
A.J.
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 06:25:02 GMT
From: CheesemonkeyGem
Subject: Oh, for the love of crap
Veronica pointed out:
>It just means I kick back and enjoy, rather than
>trying to over analyze all the time.
THANK YOU veronica, im glad someone finally mentioned
this. Im sorry, but what the hell is the deal with
analyzing lyrics to death and nitpicking over every
little bit? (im talking mostly of/to Patrick but also
some other ng people). To me, either you like the song
or not. who the hell gives a shit about tags or
PREPOSITIONAL PHRASES or whether you "get" the
meanings or significance of the song or not. Fruvous
isnt Shakespeare for gods sake. And that is what all
this crap is reminding me of: sitting in English class
dissecting every line of Shakespeare and analysing the
characters and totally ruining the whole book and its
effect on me personally. I mean, i realise this ng is
for (among other things) discussing the band and
possibly sharing constructive criticism and comments
of the band/lyrics/shows/lamps/cheese/whatever, but i
cant fathom why anyone would give a horses ass if the
rhyming of a lyric feels thrown in or if the phrasing
isnt correct or what have you. To me thats not
criticism as much as just plain THINKING too much.
Thats not to say I dont appreciate Fruvous lyrically,
or dont enjoy thinking and analyzing certain things in
certain ways, but like i said, its reminiscent of
boring English classes where we have to grasp the
SIGNIFICANCE of everything rather than just enjoying
the content.
People have said things like "if so-and-so feels this
way about what-not, then so be it..." But to me, i
just cant understand why some people need to THINK so
much about a certain thing. If something annoys me or
someone says something to upset me or if they believe
in something I'm staunchly against, i WILL get pissed
off and i usually wont open my ears and mind to what
they have to say, and i dont necessarily see this as a
bad thing! For me, there is such a thing as being TOO
open-minded, but i get the impression most of you do
not feel the same way.
What ive noticed is that some ng people try to read
between the lines of everything and analyze every
little line and take offense to stuff or take stuff
personally that was not intended as such, and thats
how stuff gets blown up. And, i may add, it is THAT
that makes many of you seem actually CLOSED-minded in
a way, in my opinion. Example: I am always hesitant to
write a curse word or say something seemingly harmless
as "oh my god" or state something i would normally say
because Im afraid i will offend someone or get someone
mad, or what have you.
Im not trying to "flame" or personally attack anyone
here or get anyone mad, but i know some people are
gonna get pissed at this post and at me. Im not
playing "lets point out all the bad crap in the ng,"
im simply letting out a little frustration that has
come about with all these "war on patrick" shite. And
i do like being a part of this ng or else i wouldnt be
on it. I dont even know what i hope to accomplish with
this post, and i didnt plan to write any of this when
i started. Howvever, i agree with whoever said that
they would rather have chad tell them about their
incessant babbling rather than just be "KILLKENNY'D"
or whatever (btw chad, im glad i'm not one of those
people on your SCHMILLFILE list but i dont doubt i
will be after this!)
- -jen the cheeky monkey
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 01:14:22 EDT
From: Leah
Subject: Re: the war on gayness
On Tue, 15 Jun 1999 tmbgirl@juno.com wrote:
> So when my boyfriend calls me a pansy, i'm not jumping down his
> back getting all mad at him because i'm sure he's implying that i'm gay.
> i'm positive that that's the last thing he intended. Just like if i
> called him a mofo or something, i'm not implying that he's sleeping with
> his or anyone else's mother. so if you just don't happen to get outside
> and see that these terms have already lost the meanings you claim they
> continue to imply, wake up. The past two months my boyfriend has called
> me and his best friends "pansies" it's an everyday term to us now. I
> never even had a clue that it was originally a gay slur. so perhaps i'm
> the one that needs to get outside and see what's up.
The fact of the matter is, it IS used as a gay slur. If you had ever been
walking down the street with some friends and been heckled by such slurs,
you might understand this... Just because it's used doesn't mean it's lost
it's original meaning.
Leah
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:25:06 GMT
From: Lynne
Subject: TACT--->A WORKING DEFINITION (was Re: boulder show review) (fwd)
I don't think anyone could have said it better!!! :)
*hug*
- -lynne
YAY! Deb!
deb said:
- -deb/trying to cope with being a geeky fan of a novelty band that jokes
around too much.......*oh screw that!!!!!!* I LOVE MOXY FRÜVOUS.
A LOT. AND I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE ELSE THINKS OR SAYS ABOUT THAT. THEY MAKE
ME HAPPY. AND THAT'S ALL I NEED OR WANT.
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 08:41:11 GMT
From: Lynne
Subject: Criticism: Lyric tags
Hmm.. I dunno.. regarding most of pAtricks comments...
Fruvous does what they do.. tags no tags orbit a rondel..cuz they are
fruvous an they can. Same for you, you post.. cuz you have your opinions
and you can. The band actually does take tons of constructive critisizm.
maybe they'll take yours. I'm not sure how constructive it is. Oh, and
I'm curious if you got to hear "When she talks" cuz I happen to love that
song (especially's taryn's version), and I don't believe that is a popular
opinion...
- -lynne, at camp in CT
oh.. and if I think there music is perfect. Does that make it perfect?
maybe it is perfect...
Patrick typed:
I *like* Moxy Fruvous. I really do. However, it's not like their
music is perfect. No band is flawless, certainly not my own
attempts at songwriting. Sometimes a band has a great sound,
great talent at playing instruments, but bad lyrics.
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Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 07:43:36 -0300
From: nslife
Subject: canadian bootleg club
Hi,
I have created a website for Canadian Bootleg traders. Please come
for a visit soon...It has lots of bootleg information.
Rose
http://members.tripod.com/bootlegger/
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