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So now we complain before a figure is made? Im sure the 4h make em look awesume.

I don't think thats the point, we're just trying to figure out how the 4H will transform these poor designs into something cool. These guys were pretty much garbage when they were designed to begin with.

I didn't have Vizar or Nocturna as a kid, but I did have Kayo. He was awesome. Sure, he's not the typical MOTU-style hero, but when I was a kid, the impression I got was that his power was just that he was an all-around butt-kicker and weapons maker.

i would love these guys to be in my collection.
i for one really like these characters & know they will fit in well.
although i would like to see some improvments.
the idea for nocturna haveing color changing plastic would be awesome.!
he is the most boring & looks more like a g.i.joe, but still want him. i feel something is needed.
vizar is alright. i hope for something extra for him.
think kayo would be cool. another armor to wear or tech suite might make him cooler.
what are their weapons?

I personally think that all three will look great once Classicized. I think the figures have a lot to offer once the 4H get a hold of them. And Vizar's armor once removed might add some more UMPH! to him looking very MOTU-like. Plus once you factor in the shared parts, like giving them Bow's boots and other parts like that, it'll really help to push them into looking like they belong.

As for new parts, I wouldn't be surprised if the 4H give both of them new weapons and gadgets to add more to them.

Wow, I have never seen those figures before and you are right, they are terrible. They are not even $5 worthy. I'm actually hoping Mattel does not plan to make every NA character into MOTUC.

Well if we keep getting one or even move up to two a year, it'll be a while before they get to these three anyway. Especially if Sebrian, Mara and Crita bump ahead of these guys. I'd like to have them eventually but I agree they are very low priority. Flog and Hydron are high-ish priority right now.

I know I'll get backlash for saying this, but I think they're more interesting looking and far less bland than probably 60% of the Filmation designs.

Kayo doesn't really do much for me, but I LOVE how Vizor looks and I really like Nocturna's blue and purple colour scheme. They also have some great detail going on there with the circuitry, sashes, pockets, etc.

P.S. I always think that Vizar concept art is for Sagitar!

Take part in Illumina Day! Let people know who she is and help get her in MOTUC.

Vizar is probably the hardest sell (I do like his concept art) but I think with a little 4H love even he could be cool.

I used to think Nocturna was sort of hopeless, but I've come around a bit. Space Ninja could be a cool thing with a few more accessories.

I do think the OP's original picture of Kayo does him a injustice. If you strip characters of all their accessories, sure they are going to seem a bit bland! But all suited up I think he could be a very cool figure.

First let me say that I think it is awesome that the NA characters so far are all looking great in MOTUC, and are righting the wrongs that were made many years ago when Mattel decided to make the 1989-1992 NA figures a different scale to the original MOTUs...

All of the Space Mutants, I think, will look great classics-ified...and a majority of the Galactic Protectors will also

That being said, I must admit I am quite worried about 3 of the Galactic Protectors in particular...because, let's be honest, they have nothing particularly interesting going on

If I was the Four Horseman, I would be loosing sleep over what on earth I would do to improve these super boring characters...and I'm sure if they are reading this they are biting their fingernails in fear and would appreciate any help from us fans!!!

I had a thought that Nocturna could be made out of a color changing plastic (like SDCC Orko?) which would work nicely for his shadowy camouflage feature, and make him a little more special

But what about the rest? Anyone have any ideas?

Yeah, I hate these all too.

Frankly I dont like Artilla either but he may get to look cool with the 4H.

I agree, these will most likely be weak, and I'd certainly like space mutants more.

I do see your point but like yourself and others have said with Kayo/Tartarus he does look a lot better with his helmet and accessories. Its interesting you say he looks like a space medieval knight as I've always (even as a kid) though he looked like a space Roman Gladiator.

Vizar looks a lot better in the cartoon IMO so I hope we get him in the cartoon colours.

With Nocturna though I 100% agree very boring and I really don't like his colours. He's my least wanted out of all the vintage figures. His colours in the concept are look way better IMO and those colours were also used for him in the UK comic.

going back to the original post; i think that yes - those 3 figures are a bit boring and un-inspriing ... plus, they don't really feel unique to me - which is something i feel with most MOTU characters and something that makes them special ...

i've mentioned this before, they don't really feel like proper MOTU characters ... but i'm sure that the 4H will do their best with them ...

''He-Man lives and possesses that key, I must possess all or I possess nothing!'' (Skeletor, 1987)

I guess what I am saying is that I hope the 4H take a lot of liberties in the design---I mean Kayo's red jockey's & sunday-best tank top really don't need to come into the MOTUC sculpt...(maybe as a variant, Fruit-of-the-Loom Kayo) and Vizar really just needs to lose the steel sports bra.