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But yet you became a Perot supporter, who had often been accused on anti-Semitism, and then a Nader supporter, when so many of the far left people associated with him are anti-Semitic, and are now in the same party as Al Sharpton, Fritz Hollings, and several others who you would probably “hear things” from.

As for the statement that I am motivated by America going to war for Israel, that might sound like a dog whistle, but it was made somewhat late on a weekend night, so maybe you were just drunk again.

I don’t think right-wingers are ever “rooting” for war. I will assume then that reading those comments should not infer that you were suggesting that somehow my loyalty is to another country over the United States.

And we should keep in mind that throughout history, including recently, a good number of liberals have wanted the U.S. military to engage in places throughout the world for humanitarian reasons.

She will probably never be matched one on one against Harris. There will be about 20 candidates on the ballot, and she must guess it’s worth the gamble to try to advance in the jungle primary to a special election. So, if that happens, she probably will have techically “beat” Harris.

Since Latinos are the largest ethnic/racial group in California, there will be a feeling among many people that one of them deserves to be the next Senator, and there will be a lot of identity politics at play.

Almost everyone used to believe in those religious exemptions, until it became a political wedge issue to distract from Democrat failures.

Obviously, this Diehl guy nor anybody else is denying anybody birth control. Birth control is widely available everywhere in America. It is extremely easy to obtain. It probably could become even easier if we were to approve birth control pills as Over the Counter medication. Wouldn’t that make things easier?

I am sure that if somebody chose to be employed by the Catholic Church and chose to be covered through them, a vasectomy would not be part of the benefits package.

As for the general topics, we should of course realize there are distinctions between what most of us would define as “birth control” and something like a pill designed to specifically cause an abortion. Even the most ardent of pro-choice liberals used to believe that people should be able to exercise their religious or moral conscience on those matters. What’s next? Mandatory abortion coverage?

If a woman, such as Sandra Fluke, chooses to be insured through the Catholic Church, she should not have expected that the church violate their teachings to give her birth control. Again, she choose to be covered through the Catholic Church.

That is especially true since there are numerous and ample ways for her or anyone else to be provided with as much birth control as they might possibly require, including for free at many venues.

A), we believe in the freedom of conscience and religious practice, even if it is not what we also believe or the religion we practice.

B) we do not believe abortion is or should be the same thing as birth control. If abortion is legal, then a person has legal standing to have one, but they should not expect others, be it the taxpayer or their employer to violate their moral conscience to fund it or sanction it.

The general concept that conservatives are “anti-birth control” is of course a canard. It is completely untrue. Almots all conservatives do or have practiced birth control and most believe that many more people should (while also not forgetting what is the only completely foolproof method.)

It’s a political wedge issue designed by Democrats. It certainly failed though in 2014 as part of the so-called “war on women”. The Democrats chose to make it be the main issue of a Colorado Senate race last year and you can ask former Senator Mark “Uterus” how it turned out for them.

Sandra Fluke played no meaningful role in the 2012 election. I do not believe in name calling. The left certainly does more of their fair share. I do not recall very many people complaining when Sarah Palin or her daughters get called sluts for example, but what Sandra Fluke was advocating publicly should not in any way have made her a cause celebre.

I don’t see it as canard at all and I think the vast majority of conservatives would NOT agree with you that Birth Control should be available over the counter and are generally opposed to its free distribution.

Conservatives are frequently in the forefront of opposing making birth control information more readily available ,particularly to teens,preferring abstinence education.

I’d have to see polling data on that. I do not know that many prominent conservative politicians have said it should be OTC.

I do not think hardly anyone in the country thinks that birth control should be illegal. Probably not even 1 percent of the country. Some may have a moral objection about it being provided for free to children, and some of those concerns may be valid, but I don’t think anybody cares about adults getting birth control for free anywhere. It’s a matter of who is forced to pay for it though.

Canard?
There are SEVERAL states that have gone after Planned Parenthood, 20 week abortion, government funding for even counseling on the subject…
While as you say a good many GOPer’s are not following the parties platform
It still remains AS the platform policy against a woman’s right to choose…
I believe some believe life begins at conception
So let’s just scratch ANY form of abortion…
As with other issues
The flock do NOT follow the leadership always
They have their own reality to live

The House has approved a watered down Iran Bill ….it passed 400 to 25….
The senate vote was 96 to 1 I believe…
The bill goes to the President….
While the President has control of sanctions he put in place
Congress will now have to vote to lift theirs
If the numbers stay where they are?
The action of Congress is veto proof…