Fakes & CounterfeitsLook what I bought from China!Tue, 20 Nov 2018 00:32:16 +0000Tue, 20 Nov 2018 00:32:16 +0000Silver Stackershttps://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?forums/fakes-counterfeits.21/
Buying fake silverMon, 22 Oct 2018 09:25:13 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/buying-fake-silver.88281/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/buying-fake-silver.88281/invalid@example.com (Muddy water)Muddy water
I’m new at all this and decided to start stacking seriously now that I’m retired. Reason is I am stacking “seriously” is I am retired now and am home 99% of the time. I got a little nervous having this in the safe deposit box so I moved it all to the house.
Ok now I’m nervous about having it in the house, so I spent money on a tl 15 high security burglar and fire safe (1000 lbs). It is bolted to the slab and is behind a false wall.
I have 8 cameras 1 is a Ptz infrared remote...

But what about the rest of his coins/notes, what does everyone think?...

Are these listings on eBay all fakes?]]>18USA Silver Eagle FakesMon, 06 Aug 2018 03:48:14 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/usa-silver-eagle-fakes.88711/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/usa-silver-eagle-fakes.88711/invalid@example.com (eadgar)eadgar
In the image the fake is on the left.
The main, easiest differences to spot are the design of the shield, and the finish is a lot coarser on the fake.
The genuine item on the right has a lot more finer detail, easily visible in the feathers.
It was late in the afternoon (in a rush) there were about 30 x 1oz coins, I did a spot test on them but missed the few fakes.
Lesson learned

If someone else is...

USA Silver Eagle Fakes]]>17PAMP Suisse barFri, 27 Jul 2018 16:18:03 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/pamp-suisse-bar.87977/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/pamp-suisse-bar.87977/invalid@example.com (Pr176)Pr1766Selling on gumtree....Wed, 11 Jul 2018 22:42:21 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/selling-on-gumtree.87541/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/selling-on-gumtree.87541/invalid@example.com (Fat Penguin)Fat Penguin
Tried to sell a lunar goat on here for $1700 and no takers. So, listed it on gumtree, complete with the same photos (on a sigma).
This is what I received.....

The two biggest concerns with the original PMV are pure copper testing as silver, and copper (or silver) alloys testing as gold. I have yet to see a silver-plated copper fake, but theoretically this could be done and would fool the PMV by itself. And there are already counterfeit gold bars (mostly the fractional bars in plastic cards) that read as...

On the bar in the pic, there appears to be spotting on the front with a little brown patch under the FI in "FINE"

The bar is non magnetic and the security seal is still intact. I cannot find a database for the serial numbers either, nor is there many examples of the red assay version around, so I'm a little worried. I just didn't think it was worth faking 1...

OMAHA, NE - The subject pictured above was arrested in Omaha, NE for selling fake Perth Mint gold bars. He also has an outstanding warrant out of Bellevue, NE for selling over $8,000 in fake gold bars.

The subject has been identified as Bradley M. Barney of Moore, OK. Barney uses an Oklahoma issue ID card for identification when selling the fake bars....

Oklahoma man arrested for selling fake gold bars]]>Silver legal tender coins made from copperThu, 31 Aug 2017 01:27:55 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/silver-legal-tender-coins-made-from-copper.86036/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/silver-legal-tender-coins-made-from-copper.86036/invalid@example.com (kiona)kiona
But the coins themselves have "1oz 999 silver" written on the reverse, QEII and a face value on the obverse.

I'd have thought it wouldn't be legal to sell something marked as silver but made from copper?

The seller has a heap of different design "tokens" for sale. There's also 1937 and 1938 crowns... couldn't they easily end up being resold to someone as real?...

Not that anybody should buy at this outrageous price even if it was genuine, but just goes to show buyer beware when buying second-hand with regards to authenticity from a non-bullion/coin dealer who may not have much experience or appropriate testing equipment.]]>4even libertadsSat, 08 Jul 2017 11:42:14 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/even-libertads.85292/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/even-libertads.85292/invalid@example.com (dragafem)dragafem2(potential) eBay counterfeit seller takedownSat, 06 May 2017 10:25:56 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/potential-ebay-counterfeit-seller-takedown.79348/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/potential-ebay-counterfeit-seller-takedown.79348/invalid@example.com (chansax)chansax
Looking for anyone else who has been scammed by this eBay seller (27_offsuit). I returned the fakes I bought from them to get a Paypal refund. The coins were unclaimed and have been returned to me (the address doesn't seem fake, so maybe the name is). He/she also left feedback for me which was completely false.

Anyway, a while back I referred the issue to the AFP and actually got them interested. They got some info from me but unfortunately I did not have the coins in my possession at...

(potential) eBay counterfeit seller takedown]]>2Fake/Copy/Clad ingots - Does anyone collect these?Wed, 03 May 2017 10:49:53 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/fake-copy-clad-ingots-does-anyone-collect-these.84369/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/fake-copy-clad-ingots-does-anyone-collect-these.84369/invalid@example.com (ContingentWorker)ContingentWorker
After some Googling I am 100% certain all five are counterfeit and therefore only good for props or anyone who might collect these types of things.
Due to eBay's selling laws, I am unable to list replica/counterfeit items (even if I state throughout the listing that the items are copies/clad/counterfeit etc).
I am wondering if anyone collects...

Fake/Copy/Clad ingots - Does anyone collect these?]]>2New Ebay scamThu, 27 Apr 2017 23:14:05 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/new-ebay-scam.84023/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/new-ebay-scam.84023/invalid@example.com (alwayslooking)alwayslooking4Does this seem suspicious or is it normal? Slabbing QuestionThu, 27 Apr 2017 11:20:10 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/does-this-seem-suspicious-or-is-it-normal-slabbing-question.84292/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/does-this-seem-suspicious-or-is-it-normal-slabbing-question.84292/invalid@example.com (Jislizard)Jislizard
Every time one gets posted I grab a picture and I record the final sale price.

I have noticed that the majority of medals posted are all from the same seller in the USA. The seller incorrectly lists their Country of Manufacture as China, even though the original ones are British and made in Birmingham.

Take a good look. Compare them to your gold. Seller has them listed as Gold Plated Replicas on eBay U.S.A.]]>Counterfeit Gold Krugerrand many Viele deutsche German sellersThu, 23 Feb 2017 07:34:53 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/counterfeit-gold-krugerrand-many-viele-deutsche-german-sellers.83227/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/counterfeit-gold-krugerrand-many-viele-deutsche-german-sellers.83227/invalid@example.com (CounterfeitGoldie)CounterfeitGoldieI have never seen so much counterfeit gold sold on an eBay market[Germany].
Feel sorry, I don't think so. Will show up world-wide.

You can only see items if you're logged into Germany eBay.

Most buyers will turn around and sell as authentic. Can you imagine what Germany is going thru.
It would take hours to turn in every counterfeit seller.
But, to warn others, here's a...

"Since 2009, in our investigations with the secret service, we have seized about $75m in fake bills," said Walter Escalante, head of the Peruvian national police's anti-fraud division. "We don't know what percentage entered the US illegally and has gone inside the financial system. We think that our $75m is the better part of what has entered the US."

The price was ok for just silver
it looks the same in the hand , Just kinda Bla
I'd of thought even with the ruff handling (as said by seller) it would of retained some of the mirror quality
The details are true to form but - the weight is 31.2...

As the title suggests. I am absolutely gobsmacked at the extensive list of fakes out there.]]>74Is This a FakeMon, 26 Sep 2016 22:12:11 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/is-this-a-fake.75379/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/is-this-a-fake.75379/invalid@example.com (GoldenEye)GoldenEye]]>17Counterfeit $50 notes - how big is the problem?Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:42:28 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/counterfeit-50-notes-how-big-is-the-problem.77303/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/counterfeit-50-notes-how-big-is-the-problem.77303/invalid@example.com (SpacePete)SpacePeteAustralia flooded with fake $50 notes so good they fool banks, and even rumours (quickly shut down) that the problem was much larger than is generally being reported.

In a story today on the new $5 note there was...

Counterfeit $50 notes - how big is the problem?]]>9?more fake Perth Mint gold bars on eBaySat, 10 Sep 2016 04:36:36 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/more-fake-perth-mint-gold-bars-on-ebay.77228/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/more-fake-perth-mint-gold-bars-on-ebay.77228/invalid@example.com (chansax)chansax
Can anyone confirm if these are real or fake? I've watched this video (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=owh5zKwfmYY) and I'm not sure. But I'd hate to see more fake bars getting through.

?more fake Perth Mint gold bars on eBay]]>10Does my ASE look real in this?Mon, 15 Aug 2016 16:09:41 +0000https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/does-my-ase-look-real-in-this.76465/
https://www.silverstackers.com/forums/index.php?threads/does-my-ase-look-real-in-this.76465/invalid@example.com (Davros10)Davros10
Local coin store said it was fine and they didn't know of them being faked as there wasn't much value in it. More details to follow....

As investors become increasingly nervous about the stock market, the price of gold has been swinging up, rising roughly 20 percent since just the beginning of the year. But if you buy your gold in coin form, you need to be wary. Chinese crooks are minting fakes in large quantities and selling them on the Internet.