I've seen a lot of good players with them; and a ton of bad players. My friend is one of the bad ones. Came over and wanted to test them. Dear God; I should have said "F- no"; instead he leeroyed my E-50; and played total noob in my E-100 giving my stats; first match with it a defeat...

Note to self: Don't allow your friends to play on your account; especially when you know they suck at the game too.

Anyway; I think after awhile we'll see the wins balance out as people learn that they can't blindly fire at a tier 9 German medium's front anymore.

Is that test supposed to mean anything? If you use a E50, you would know that the amount of shells you bounce from all tanks has gone up 1000%, no one has said that it cannot be pen'd with careful aim, but unlike the Panther2 it isn't just point and shoot and pen anymore. The E50's armour is better than the Patton's by a long shot, and the E50's 10.5 can pen T54's armour no problem.

I know it's hard for you to understand, jnzl, since your highest tier tank is a Lowe, but maybe one day you'll experience what its like to drive a real WOT tank. You went on in-game about what range has to do with mediums? well it has a lot to do, the German 10.5 used on the E50 is one of the best guns in the entire game, and excels at sniping, but kicks butt at close range aswell, I've had my fair share of T54's try circle rape me, they failed. If you have fantastic accuracy, aim time and reload, you are obviously going to engage your enemy at massive ranges, because you can. Being a medium doesn't mean you have to dog fight every round, it wasn't like that in real life, and it certainly isn't like that here.

T54 still has a use, it is more of a scout medium, but the Patton has no use anymore.

Is that test supposed to mean anything? If you use a E50, you would know that the amount of shells you bounce from all tanks has gone up 1000%, no one has said that it cannot be pen'd with careful aim, but unlike the Panther2 it isn't just point and shoot and pen anymore. The E50's armour is better than the Patton's by a long shot, and the E50's 10.5 can pen T54's armour no problem.

I know it's hard for you to understand, jnzl, since your highest tier tank is a Lowe, but maybe one day you'll experience what its like to drive a real WOT tank. You went on in-game about what range has to do with mediums? well it has a lot to do, the German 10.5 used on the E50 is one of the best guns in the entire game, and excels at sniping, but kicks butt at close range aswell, I've had my fair share of T54's try circle rape me, they failed. If you have fantastic accuracy, aim time and reload, you are obviously going to engage your enemy at massive ranges, because you can. Being a medium doesn't mean you have to dog fight every round, it wasn't like that in real life, and it certainly isn't like that here.

T54 still has a use, it is more of a scout medium, but the Patton has no use anymore.

I had a is-4, ausf b & t-44 back in beta, they were 'real' tanks back then, i guess burnt myself out during it (god, that sleepless xp weekend) and play more for fun & friends these days than grinding up the current buzz-tank, each to thier own, i do love how you like telling me about my lowe though, its a great tank!

You seem to think i am saying the e-50 is utter trash that your average kv could take 1-1, i am not, however, if you look at the pros/cons of this the t54 still has the edge as the best all round medium tank.

Which has more holes & crit points? the e-50

Which is as large as a heavy with poor stealth? the e-50

Which has the least ammount of armor & more flat surface points? the e-50

Which has the poorest acceleration? the e-50

Which has a static hull ammo rack location? the e-50

Sure you dont have to dogfight every round, but then, thats part of the fun rolling in a med isnt it? im not going to criticize your playstyle, you want to snipe? good on you, a wins a win no matter how you get there, but thinking the sun shines out the e-50's rear exahaust, i dont think so

Feel free to now pick this apart in the most arrogant and condescending way you can.

You seem to think i am saying the e-50 is utter trash that your average kv could take 1-1, i am not, however, if you look at the pros/cons of this the t54 still has the edge as the best all round medium tank.

Being the best all round tank doesn't mean it is the best tank overall. The T54 may have less weak points, but like I said.. it doesn't bounce the 10.5 much, both can bounce each other if not aimed correctly, which is a good thing. Sniping in this game is a powerful technique and when utilized by a medium, it can and as you can see by our platoons results, be a game winner. As a user of both, I can tell you that the T54's best gun certainly doesn't rank among the best guns in this game, and is powerful, because of the T54's dog fighting abilities, not the actual gun itself, the E50 is all about the gun, kind of like a TD with mobility and a turret, with the ability to fight close range.

PS: Beta glory is just that, beta glory. Patches have come and gone, and the game has changed, and yet, in your beta glory you never had a T54, and you don't have a E50, correct me if I'm wrong.

Being the best all round tank doesn't mean it is the best tank overall. The T54 may have less weak points, but like I said.. it doesn't bounce the 10.5 much, both can bounce each other if not aimed correctly, which is a good thing. Sniping in this game is a powerful technique and when utilized by a medium, it can and as you can see by our platoons results, be a game winner. As a user of both, I can tell you that the T54's best gun certainly doesn't rank among the best guns in this game, and is powerful, because of the T54's dog fighting abilities, not the actual gun itself, the E50 is all about the gun, kind of like a TD with mobility and a turret, with the ability to fight close range.

PS: Beta glory is just that, beta glory. Patches have come and gone, and the game has changed, and yet, in your beta glory you never had a T54, and you don't have a E50, correct me if I'm wrong.

Dont remember calling the t-54 the best tank overall and no way in hell do i want to open that can of worms.

Its pretty damn clear though, that this will just turn into a slugging match, so ill tell you what, im going to agree to disagree, get some matches going and let time reveal just which ones better of the two

Beta glory is beta glory, i was merely pointing out ive been in a 'real' tank as you called it, t54 didnt exist back then nor did the e-50, so that points pretty moot, but then again, even if i had two of each, would it really make your calls any different?

it makes me giggle when a patton/T-54 bounce on you and yell hacks.
E-50 lets the good time roll
also note please let other mediums kill you every few matches or E-50 will be hit by nerf bat.

Reminds me of a match on Siegfried Line where I engaged two T-44s from about 250m, and both kept trying to play long range peekaboo with me. Literally every single shot fired at me was either a bounce or a zero damage track shot (to be fair, I had a great position from which to stay angled). After I killed one T-44 the other got wise and decided to get close...of course I hit him two more times on his way to my position, then I finished him off by ramming him. Then a T29 at full health came over and I mauled him with close range peekaboo, also finishing him off with ramming. And all I had were the upgraded tracks and engine...still using the stock turret and long 88! I can't imagine how much more effective I'd be with the turret upgrade and 105 of doom.

Alas my team still lost that game, but it sure felt refreshing to bounce shots on a German medium that's not the 3002DB.