Yeah, but heaven forbid they pay extra for a flight. That's because it's still only one person, and it would be unfair to charge one person more than another.. But I wonder, has anyone ever checked that? Has anyone ever actually cut open a fatty to see what's inside? There could be a whole village of people in there, for all we know.

I remind people that while it is perfectly fine to ridicule fat people horribly, we must nonetheless keep a breeding supply around at the very least so that if there is a zombie apocalypse we will have succulent decoys for the zombies to feast on. This will allow all the healthy people time to escape/fortify their houses.

It's some girl's 5 year anniversary of working at my office, so they give you a trip to anywhere you wanna go. She's going to chicago, so OF COURSE they had deep dish pizza, cheese cake, all sorts of popcorn and pigs n a blanket.

I ran to my office and am quietly drinking water, trying to ignore the fact that the hallways smell like god damned pizza. Thanks for helping me get my head straight, looking forward to getting off work to go exercise.

He's finally gotten the wake up call with his most recent diabetes diagnosis.

Waking up 10 years ago during kidney surgery because his excessive weight threw off the anesthesiologist, not a wake up call.

Waking up during neck surgery 6 years ago, because again his now even more excessive weight dulled the drugs, not a wake up call.

Being paralyzed from the waist down after that surgery(initially he was fine, but the pressure of his body on his weakened spinal column pinched a nerve and he lost movement until recently, not a wake up call.

Realizing he can walk in a pool with the majority of his weight supported by the water, not a wake up call.

Finally being diagnosed with diabetes, that's his wake up call. He's lost over 100lbs at this point, but he is still around 390. At least he's finally, FINALLY doing something.

He's finally gotten the wake up call with his most recent diabetes diagnosis.

Waking up 10 years ago during kidney surgery because his excessive weight threw off the anesthesiologist, not a wake up call.

Waking up during neck surgery 6 years ago, because again his now even more excessive weight dulled the drugs, not a wake up call.

Being paralyzed from the waist down after that surgery(initially he was fine, but the pressure of his body on his weakened spinal column pinched a nerve and he lost movement until recently, not a wake up call.

Realizing he can walk in a pool with the majority of his weight supported by the water, not a wake up call.

Finally being diagnosed with diabetes, that's his wake up call. He's lost over 100lbs at this point, but he is still around 390. At least he's finally, FINALLY doing something.

//He gives himself another 3 years before he'll be dead.

That's rough man. You just gotta be there for him, he's gotta have the will and want to become better, you just need to keep believing in him. Sounds like you never gave up.

What's the cost of replacing all the crap pre-packaged food you find in grocery stores, and replacing all the fast food restaurants with just restaurants? There would obviously be some savings if what is served as a meal some places was portioned correctly and served to 2-3 people. There would also be the added cost of waiting for your food almost 10x longer.

I am not saying fat people are not to blame for their size generally (other medical issues can cause you to gain or hold weight unnaturally), but there is significant cost savings in eating the crap food people do, both in time and food cost, if you replaced it with an equal volume or calorie count of healthier foods. If that worked out to be more than the cost of obiesity, would that mean America is actually doing it right?

U of Iowa girl is already setting the standard that being a big fat ass does not un-entitle you to anything. You can live a life just like everyone who is smart with portion control and exercise without having to do those things! Sure, people who don't schlup down every type of food they encounter and move their asses around to stay relatively healthy will have to be inconvenienced by fat people, but that's their problem to adapt to the fat world around them.

Ajanu:What's the cost of replacing all the crap pre-packaged food you find in grocery stores, and replacing all the fast food restaurants with just restaurants? There would obviously be some savings if what is served as a meal some places was portioned correctly and served to 2-3 people. There would also be the added cost of waiting for your food almost 10x longer.

I am not saying fat people are not to blame for their size generally (other medical issues can cause you to gain or hold weight unnaturally), but there is significant cost savings in eating the crap food people do, both in time and food cost, if you replaced it with an equal volume or calorie count of healthier foods. If that worked out to be more than the cost of obiesity, would that mean America is actually doing it right?

Except in a true free market, fast food isn't as cheap as market conditions make it. Corn is subsidized by the government. That corn turns into feed for livestock, into the ubiquitous high fructose corn syrup, into just about everything that is processed or remotely animal-derived. A real hamburger would never cost $0.80 (or whatever McD's charges these days) without subsidies. So people eat them, taxpayers pay the difference in farm subsidies, then people get fat, and we pay for it again.

A much more responsible policy would be to subsidize spinach, but there aren't too many spinach lobbyists in Congress.

Underweight, so I'm doing my part to lower the stats/ 5'9" and 118lbs// Up from 108 a couple months ago since I started lifting weights/// Should try my friend's workout - pushing the fat people in wheelchairs around hospitals

Interesting - until I got to the line which addressed absenteeism in "mildly obese" workers, with "mildly obese" starting at a BMI of 25. Now, I'm aware of the problems with using BMI as a parameter, but really - 25? A woman who is 5'6" and weighs 156 pounds has a BMI of 25. OK, she's packing a little extra, but hardly enough for her weight to be causing health problems that would keep her out of work!

Expanding the definition of "obesity" detracts from the seriousness of the problem.

rumpelstiltskin:Yeah, but heaven forbid they pay extra for a flight. That's because it's still only one person, and it would be unfair to charge one person more than another.. But I wonder, has anyone ever checked that? Has anyone ever actually cut open a fatty to see what's inside? There could be a whole village of people in there, for all we know.

9beers:In this thread you'll find a bunch of 20 something people telling us how they'll never be fat. We'll check back with them in 20 years and see how that works out.

your feelings hurt tinkerbell?

in a preponderance of cases, obesity is due to factors that are well within the control of the individual. if you don't have the self control to keep yourself from getting fat, you are deserving of whatever ridicule you receive.

I'm 189lbs 6'2", same pants size, and I'm just inside the normal range at 24.3, but I know my body fat percentage is still too high, if my slight double chin and belly(which is slowly shrinking) are any indication.

kidgenius:in a preponderance of cases, obesity is due to factors that are well within the control of the individual. if you don't have the self control to keep yourself from getting fat, you are deserving of whatever ridicule you receive.

9beers:kidgenius: in a preponderance of cases, obesity is due to factors that are well within the control of the individual. if you don't have the self control to keep yourself from getting fat, you are deserving of whatever ridicule you receive.

See, like this guy.

Well truthfully, I'm not a 20-something, I'm a 30-something :)

But, I'm sorry that you have an issue with statements of fact. Truth hurts sometimes.