Ferengi wrote:I've played with Vipers on a low fixer, not recommended.

Why not? For level 1 PvP, they have Burst and Full Auto and a relatively high Minimum damage. They may be slow, but I'm running at Full Def anyway, so most of my damage comes from specials because I root and shoot, and I've been hitting for minimum damage anyway against my fellow orgmates' twinks. They are crappy SMGs at anything BUT level 1 PvP, I would say, but I think they could be a pretty good contender for the context of my character's playing style. I've been able to kill the dreaded Trox Omni-Carb Enfo with Ritual Krys Knife by rooting and shooting with SOL K-94s, so I'd imagine that having at least one Viper (if not two) would be a step up in my damage. Can you suggest an alternative with high minimum damage and nice specials?

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hahnsoo wrote:They may be slow, but I'm running at Full Def anyway, so most of my damage comes from specials...Can you suggest an alternative with high minimum damage and nice specials?

Suppressor

Here is the Suppressor, QL 20 shown. Even at QL 20, it has horrible minimum damage, worse than even my SOL K-94. You get Burst and Full Auto, but it can't be dualed with another gun with Fling and/or Aimed. The 3 Second recharge makes it as slow as the OT Viper IX at Level 1 PvP. I'm not interested in a 12-24 point Full Auto. Explain how this is a better choice than an off-hand OT Viper IX? Because it is lacking in the criteria of "higher minimum damage". Remember in my post, I said I was hitting for minimum damage against most folks when field testing.

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WorldTrader wrote:it sounds like a number of lvl 1 pvpers are out there =) I'm tempted to actually make my own now...

when i'm done anyone fancy dueling for test purposes?

I'll definitely be happy to. We have a couple of NA'ers with lvl 1 PvP twinks. Usually, we meet at the Omni-Ent Arena, but I'm sure we can find a Neut-friendly place that isn't too far away.

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I've been solidly playing Livenletdie the whole week trying to work on weapon combos... hanging out in Borealis but there's not many to fight. I hang around near the grid and all the high lvl pvp'ers in the hope that someone will log their toon or go and roll one hehe.
But I would happily cruise to wherever some of you are hanging out.

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Great damage for a QL 1 weapon. Great minimum, large max damage, good crits, and you can dual it with another weapon. You get no specials, though, so you'll need to pair it with something else.

Ferengi wrote:How do neuts get to ToTW anyway?

I've always just gridded to Rome, then used the Rome Green Portal. I'm not sure that is faster than running from Tir, but it works for me.

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I'll tell you how it goes, made a ql19 of the Summer Shells yesterday.

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Myhealsare "Fullysikmate" Youdig: One of these days he will hit things gud
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currently still laddering up his imps and ncu....I currently have a low level BOW on but can probably find higher...i forget the name atm...but it has a min dmg of 8, AS and FLING.

I've also got a Wen-Wen on, and looking to get nukes up and running as well...if possible i'm going to try to be able to self cast Medinos ^^