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Re: Pacers/Grizzlies Postgame Thread 12/31/12

Of course it is the coaches plan. His two best players/scorers are in the post and his guards struggle shooting the ball.

I agree that he should utilize the paint as his main weapon. But he shouldn't forgo perimeter shooting. It's important to create space for your post players to operate. Memphis didn't do that last night.

We clogged the lane and they didn't punish us for it.

Tonight, all flags must burn, in place of steeples.
Autonomy must return into the hands of the people.

Re: Pacers/Grizzlies Postgame Thread 12/31/12

If you break it down, you'll see that they hit 6 shots in the paint in each quarter except for the 4th quarter. In the 4th, they only hit 3 shots in the paint (one of them was a Darrel Arthur 17 footer that apparently counts as points in the paint). So, in overall they hit 6 + 6 + 6 + 3 = 21 shots in our paint. That equals 42 points but I'm guessing that the FT awarded after the and-1 count as well, which makes sense.

Outside of our paint? They hit 1 shot in the first quarter, 2 shots in the second, 3 shots in the third and 2 in the 4th. That's only 8 field goal makes outside of the paint.

Apparently, ESPN's shot chart has missed some shots since they have credited the Grizzlies with 31 field goal makes while the shot chart only presents 28 but anyway.

Let's take a look at the missed field goals for the Grizzlies.

In the paint: They missed 9 shots in the paint in the first quarter. They missed 8 shots in the paint in the second quarter. They missed 2 shots in the paint in the third quarter. They missed 8 shots in the paint in the fourth quarter. In overall, they missed 8 + 8 + 2 + 9 = 27 shots in our paint.

So, the Grizzlies shot 21 / 48 in our paint.

Perimeter shots: They missed 4 perimeter shots in the first quarter (I'm not going to count the 44 ft heave). They missed 5 perimeter shots in the second quarter. They missed 6 perimeter shots in the third quarter (I'm not going to count the 39 ft heave either). They missed 7 perimeter shots in the fourth quarter. In overall, they missed 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 = 22 perimeter shots.

So, the Grizzlies shot 8 / 30 from the perimeter.

21 / 48 equals 43.7%.

8 / 30 equals 26.6%.

These calculations prove joew8302 right. The Grizzlies are bad in outside shooting. Or they were bad last night, at least. That's on the players, not the coach. However, I believe that the coach could draw some plays that could result in open 3 pointers. 'Cause the only open 3 that I remember from last game was a transition 3.

Anyway, back on the points in the paint issue. The Grizzles may have scored 44 points in our paint but they needed to attempt 48 shots to do that. So, we held them at under 1 point per shot and that's something to take into consideration.

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Re: Pacers/Grizzlies Postgame Thread 12/31/12

Paul's fairly easily defending guys that Granger has traditionally struggled against. Durant, Carmello, Iggy, Deng, and now Gay... really impressive, imagine how good he could be defensively in a few years when gains more strength and experience. I'm looking forward to the match ups against Pierce, LeBron, and Harden here soon. He might get lit up, but it'll be fun watching him compete regardless.

Re: Pacers/Grizzlies Postgame Thread 12/31/12

I thought he played well yesterday, but I don't think his demeanor was too different than usual. I think its just his character - just as Hansbrough is often overly enthusiastic, I think DJ is the opposite. I actually think its a good trait to have in a PG.

In the after game interview with DJ, it was brought up he doesn't show emotion on the court. That he has a poker face. In a "GREAT BIG SMILE", DJ stated his face never shows emotion on the court.

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Re: Pacers/Grizzlies Postgame Thread 12/31/12

I'm not high on Machado. He seems to be struggling in the D-League. Plus, I believe that he would be a horrible fit within our offense.

But I'd take Patterson in a heartbeat as well. He's averaging 12.5 PPG, 4.6 RPG and 1.5 APG in 28.3 minutes so far. He is a bad rebounder but the guy can score and pass the ball.

The reason I made that trade proposal is that Patterson and Pendergraph's salary doesn't match up. If they did, I'd trade straight up or throw in a 2nd round pick or Stanko. Personally, I'd throw in both as sweeteners.

As far as I'm concerned, Stanko is trade fodder like Lorbek was. He'll never don a Pacers uni either.

Re: Pacers/Grizzlies Postgame Thread 12/31/12

"(The Pacers) aren't that good of a defensive team, but we made them look that way."

...and then:

"There are certain situations where I could have done better." – Gay, who had 11 points on 3-of-17 shooting after playing the hero last Saturday night in a win against Denver. Gay averaged 27.3 points over his last three games vs. Indiana.

Yeah, I'm sure Paul George's defense had nothing to do with your 3 of 17 night. I watched the game from the 10th row yesterday, and I can tell you... Rudy Gay was handled.

OTOH, West got totally worked off picks and the block by ZBo and Gasol all game. I think that ZBo is probably one of the very best post players in the NBA now. By a significant margin. I'd probably only rate Griffin above him as a PF, but for a back-to-the-basket post game? ZBo is king right now.

I remember turning to my wife last night at the end of the third and told her how we might very well pull this game out. Just looked like Memphis was getting gassed by the physicality.

Re: Pacers/Grizzlies Postgame Thread 12/31/12

The reason I made that trade proposal is that Patterson and Pendergraph's salary doesn't match up. If they did, I'd trade straight up or throw in a 2nd round pick or Stanko. Personally, I'd throw in both as sweeteners.

As far as I'm concerned, Stanko is trade fodder like Lorbek was. He'll never don a Pacers uni either.

Yeah, I don't see Stanko coming over either. It makes sense then.

However, if we were to snatch a PG from the Rockets I'd certainly prefer Beverley

Tonight, all flags must burn, in place of steeples.
Autonomy must return into the hands of the people.

Re: Pacers/Grizzlies Postgame Thread 12/31/12

I think that ZBo is probably one of the very best post players in the NBA now. By a significant margin. I'd probably only rate Griffin above him as a PF, but for a back-to-the-basket post game? ZBo is king right now.

ZBo is a beast, that's a given. We don't usually see West being so outmuscled in the post. He usually holds his own. But ZBo was just too much.

Tonight, all flags must burn, in place of steeples.
Autonomy must return into the hands of the people.