Halladay was roughed up in a 14-2 defeat by the Miami Marlins, his second consecutive poor start. After the game, he acknowledged he has been pitching with a sore shoulder. He said he will have tests this week in Los Angeles and be examined by Dr. Lewis Yocum.

"It's not something that I had before," Halladay said. "It's something new this year. I felt good all spring. I had soreness in there and just wasn't able to get rid of it."

Halladay, a two-time Cy Young Award winner who turns 36 this month, made a statement but did not take questions from reporters. He has struggled through seven starts this season, going 2-4 with an 8.65 ERA.

He said he started feeling discomfort the morning after an April 24 state against the Pittsburgh Pirates. He has made two ineffective starts since.

"I woke up and didn't really think anything of it, just regular soreness," Halladay said. "It has kind of progressed over the last two weeks or so."

Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said the team's former ace will likely be placed on the disabled list.

Amaro said he was unaware that Halladay's shoulder was bothering him until after he came out of Sunday's game.

Halladay threw 38 pitches in the first inning, 20 of which were balls, three of which topped out at 90 mph. His stat line: 2 1/3 innings, four hits, nine earned runs, four walks, four strikeouts, one home run, two hit batsmen, 65 pitches, 35 strikes.

With a bum shoulder, turning 36 next week and his career in question, observers wonder just how much longer Halladay might be in baseball.

"I have a hard time watching him struggle," Manuel said.

"He didn't have his command today," Manuel said. "He hit two batters, threw behind another one. All three of those were cutters. He didn't have his location and command today."

Halladay spent just over two minutes speaking to media members after the game. His expression was stern. His confidence was broken. And while the Phillies prepared to fly to their next series, in San Francisco, Halladay will be thinking about Los Angeles, where he hopes to meet Yokum next week.