Comments on: Deconstruction Review of Fringe, Episode 13 Season 5 An Enemy of Fate https://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/2013/01/21/fringe-e13-s5/
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By: Austin Gray https://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/2013/01/21/fringe-e13-s5/#comment-12800
Sat, 30 Aug 2014 16:55:35 +0000http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/?p=1775#comment-12800“In my opinion, almost none of the last episode makes sens. assuming that walter travels to the future with the boy and thus the observers never come to exist, september would never exist either. thus, walternate would cure peter and peter would grow up undisturbed in his universe, never meeting olivia and thus never creating etta… correct me if i’m wrong?”

THIS right here is what I was thinking all along

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By: Karl Withakay https://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/2013/01/21/fringe-e13-s5/#comment-5014
Sat, 02 Feb 2013 00:23:50 +0000http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/?p=1775#comment-5014Given the support of the video you linked to, I have to concede your point on the purpose and goals of The Observers. Given that, I am now unsure whether the nature of The Observers (humans from the future with embedded tech, etc) was retconed or not. I still stand by my position regarding Peter and the Anomaly and “the boy is important”, but I’m also willing to be proven wrong.
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By: Mark https://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/2013/01/21/fringe-e13-s5/#comment-5013
Fri, 01 Feb 2013 23:33:31 +0000http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/?p=1775#comment-5013“Furthermore, it seems fairly obvious that the nature and purpose of The Observers in season five was a retroactive continuity different from whatever they were originally intended to be. ”

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By: Rea https://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/2013/01/21/fringe-e13-s5/#comment-4991
Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:19:26 +0000http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/?p=1775#comment-4991In my opinion, almost none of the last episode makes sens. assuming that walter travels to the future with the boy and thus the observers never come to exist, september would never exist either. thus, walternate would cure peter and peter would grow up undisturbed in his universe, never meeting olivia and thus never creating etta… correct me if i’m wrong?
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By: gonzalo carreto https://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/2013/01/21/fringe-e13-s5/#comment-4990
Sun, 27 Jan 2013 18:04:40 +0000http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/?p=1775#comment-4990I can’t believe that no one mentioned what it is besides “noise” that we sees in the monitor in the lab that the “boy” see right after Olivia bring him back, personally I do not know what is there to watch both for the smile on his face I believe is just a hidden message from the production to the fans.
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By: rokgomiscek https://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/2013/01/21/fringe-e13-s5/#comment-4984
Sun, 27 Jan 2013 02:18:56 +0000http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/?p=1775#comment-4984I think Michael stepped off the train in order to save the others, otherwise everyone would’ve been captured.

Back when they discovered what the plan actually was and Olivia told Peter they would get Etta back and Peter didn’t seem enthusiastic, it was because he realised that without the observers, Walternate would’ve cured him and he never would’ve met Olivia.

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By: Codisc https://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/2013/01/21/fringe-e13-s5/#comment-4980
Sat, 26 Jan 2013 04:27:17 +0000http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/?p=1775#comment-4980I believe Michael did it to get Olivia to kill Windmark. By going over there, he inspired her to jack herself up to the top with Cortexiphan so she could do that. To save him.
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By: HomiSite https://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/2013/01/21/fringe-e13-s5/#comment-4969
Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:29:20 +0000http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/?p=1775#comment-4969First of all “thank you (and Scott)” for your Fringe coverage! You guys always had spot on and also funny observations.

I guess the two last episodes was the best we could hope for, when thinking of season 4 and especially 5. Yes, even in the final episodes were some sidetracking, but we got action and furthermore some closure (could have been more), beautiful/emotional scenes and some reminiscene of important things from better Fringe times (the alternate universe!). Fringe was one of the best contemporay genre TV shows at the end of season 2 and in season 3 until its awful season final. A pity that this quality level could not be reached again. But Fringe was also, maybe primarly, a show about family, relationships, loss and love. Thanks to the fantastic characters – and actors – which helped the show even through bad times.

Three things:

– Michael turned himself in to the Observers, but did that helped in any cause? I first thought that he somehow will manipulate Windmark, but there was nothing of it. And funny that Olivia asks why Michael did it, but there is no real answer (the real answer: to fill one episode with Cortexiphan-driven inter-universal bald-boy rescue!).

– I have no overview about all timelines, but I think that deleting the Observers from the (okay, our) universe would had far more impact on the whole past beyond 2015…

– The show’s last image was Peter (Olivia was not that important anymore…) and it seems his last facial expression when looking at thee tulip was some sort of realisation – of what?

PS: Revolution is a horrible show! But I will keep your blog in my feed reader.

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By: Codisc https://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/2013/01/21/fringe-e13-s5/#comment-4963
Thu, 24 Jan 2013 04:24:00 +0000http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/?p=1775#comment-4963Thank you, Karl, for your interesting views on the real science behind the science of Fringe. You were one of the few followers until the end.

And I also did think that Michael would touch Windmark and change him. Oh well.

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By: Murad https://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/2013/01/21/fringe-e13-s5/#comment-4951
Wed, 23 Jan 2013 02:21:20 +0000http://blog.cordialdeconstruction.com/?p=1775#comment-4951Karl, thanks for going till the end, unlike Scott. I am sure he had his reasons for stopping his reviews, I just wished he would wait till the end. In any case you guys did a great job!

Regarding the whole season, I feel disapointed myself with the whole future fugitive storyline. I wish the writers would have come up with something more elaborate. I was somewhat intrigued during Peter-Observer episodes, but they decided to cut it short. And the ending just killed it. Sending brain-damaged Walter (who in his own time was considered a proper lunatic) and a weird looking kid with no communications ability whatsoever into the future to EXPLAIN that they come from the past/future to change the future/past is probably the stupidest thing they could have ever planned.

PS: I think Walter said he took the injection in 2015, just before Peter visited the lab.