It sounds like you're saying the place has gone downhill since around the time we split DC off from the Lounge. I tried to warn you. This also helps explain why I haven't noticed the decline as much as you because I'm insulated from the apparent Lounge suckage over in DC where we have an outstanding collection of people who give each other shit but who would also give each other the shirt off our backs if necessary because we know the difference between message board and real life. Stop by sometime.

Splitting that cesspool off was the best thing that ever happened to this place, save the day that Kyle decided to create it in the first place.