I want to pose two activities off against one another and ask what you all make of this:

1. In QM, the collapse of the wave function, a potential is coalesced into matter through the act of observation. This is the emphasis. The creation of matter by collapsing the wave function caused by observation and thus bringing matter into being and locating it in space-time.

2. In Scientology as well as other religious pursuits, the emphasis is placed on the observer locating bits of matter in space-time and through observation as-is’ing it into either nothing or sending it away into the ether, or what? Scientology defines as-isness as occurring in that moment of creation and of destruction.

QUESTIONS:
3. Per QM can the collapsed wave function be reversed? Can the wave collapse be “de-compressed” also by observation? And matter destroyed into nothing or reversed back into the field containing the wave function?

“Per QM can the collapsed wave function be reversed? Can the wave collapse be “de-compressed” also by observation? And matter destroyed into nothing or reversed back into the field containing the wave function?”

Maybe when one is not looking the wave function is uncollapsed. Who is to know otherwise, because when one looks it is always collapsed.

I look at Scientology as a subset of knowledge. It is treated as a monopoly by the Church of Scientology, but the truth is that knowledge cannot be owned. Knowledge is always free. One is free also to hold opinion about Scientology and evaluate it, modify it and build upon it as one likes. That is how any advances occur.

I understand that you are using Scientology references without insisting that it has to be true because “it is a Scientology datum,” and that is very sensible. Knowledge is neither true of false in the absolute sense. Knowledge can only be consistent or inconsistent.

Oh, I see, you’ve changed your mind and renamed your OP from “Intuition or Bullshit” to “Intuition or Gibberish.”

Well just so you know, the streaming inconsistencies at “too fast” a rate is a definition of pain. [parts edited out as irrelevant to the subject under discussion].

Actually there is something to this. When a metal is struck by a photon it radiates two electrons. I am going to research this a bit. Why don’t you take a look at this as well. Maybe Rafael too.

“Engrams” are said to be an incident which is “happening too fast.”
After this type of impact or after restimulating this type of impact a person may radiate pain for some time. What do we suppose is happening when that happens?

I am trying to say that I think that an impact followed by radiating pain follows the excitation of atoms with the resultant radiating of heat energy according to ordinary laws of thermodynamics and we interpret this as pain.

All sensation is electromagnetic transfer of energy which our nerve endings pick up as heat sensation. It is a sensitive transfer and a little too much becomes pain.

LRH called pain “cold” and I think he was wrong about this. There is no “transfer of cold,” there is only transfer of heat or excitement.

The imprinting of an impact on our psyche? This must be in the form of a standing wave i.e. mass?

0. I wasn’t referring to un-stacking. I was referring to stacking.
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2. [edited out]: As-isness as “creation” is super fast “stacking.” As-isness as “un-creation” is super fast “un-stacking.” Super fast needs a frame of reference because I can’t tell by this comment what you mean by “fast.”

(1) One may go after that engram by trying to recall it forcefully through Dianetic processes, and then run it again and again. This may have some impact in terms of pain and discomfort surfacing during the running of the engram. I regard this approach to be digging into the mind. It may get to the core of the problem faster, but in doing so, it may bypass some stuff, and the real cause may not get eliminated cleanly and thoroughly.

(2) One may simply look in the area of general discomfort with KHTK approach, and let the mind un-stack itself naturally. Here one may recognize inconsistencies as they come up one by one. One may even “dope off” as one reaches the core of the problem, but there won’t be as much of an impact as in engram running. This may take longer, but it would be, in my opinion, much more clean and thorough.

In either case, a person is as-ising what is there. But it happens to be more thorough with the latter approach, whereas, in the former approach bits and pieces may be left out from getting as-ised.

you see, I don’t even know what I think about the concept of engram anymore. I’ve never contacted nor run one. My “incidents” are a little different and have always come off in just the way that you describe including and especially present injuries of which I’ve “run out” more than a few with “contact” and “touch” assists. These have been very beneficial for me personally whereas R3R was not.

Regardless, you’ve used stacking two different ways and one of them was “as-is’ing” and truthfully, I can understand either way you want to use it is ok with me but it would be consistent to pick one way.

There is no inconsistency. Stacking is simply “too fast” when it bypasses awareness, or awareness cannot keep up with it.

Put a person in an unfamiliar area. Then pressure him to achieve certain goals. Don’t allow him to become familiar with that area, but keep telling him that he is too slow and incompetent. Then have him just follow your orders without thinking under the guise of training him. You’ll end up with a nice little robot provided you keep suppressing all his protests by browbeating him.

Yes, I agree and you should never never never have been treated this way.

For relief and to bring consistency possibly look at this some more and see if within your own experience that you can find a similar example of treating another in this fashion. Gently but with calm determination and peaceful confront using your KHTK model. There will be only you to satisfy, but satisfying yourself will bring commensurate relief globally.