I would never want to lose those things that make the club special to me. It would take the soul out of the club to the point it is no longer the Everton I know. When that soul is lost I might as well say I follow any team that is winning. I could be Man City this year, maybe Man Unt next year? Basically I could join the ranks of plastic supporters.I've been there once with the other team I helped and supported. Take it from me it isn't worth it.We can still be Everton and win things, the climate in the club may change, we may get a little harder but we can still keep the soul.

im just being finicky. I just want all the 'good guy/family' bollocks out of the club and for winners to be put in.

Talking about bollocks and winners put in ? Do not realise he won the last trophy ? I think you are a bit adrift here Liz ,by all means say your piece but he is a small part player in the first team and I am proud he is a blue and cannot agree one bit -the rest throw them to fuck but lay off Royle .

Talking about bollocks and winners put in ? Do not realise he won the last trophy ? I think you are a bit adrift here Liz ,by all means say your piece but he is a small part player in the first team and I am proud he is a blue and cannot agree one bit -the rest throw them to fuck but lay off Royle .

Understandable, Royle's role was probably becoming marginalised and his role confusing in regard to remit and authority.

We've got Allardyce, Lee, Shakespeare and Walsh, so we've spread responsibility around. It's not a technique associated with success, and neither is the personnel.

BK is not calling the shots anymore and Unsworth was probably hampered by Royle's involvement. So there comes a time, when you realise you've not got a lot to contribute and club is heading in a different direction.

I don't see a lot of reason to doubt the story, Koeman had a very difficult relationship with Walsh, and it's clear who won that fight. Allardyce appears to be a Walsh recruitment choice. Royle was there to help Unsworth, wouldn't be surprised if that included protection in club power struggles. Its big ego's fighting for their lucrative contracts and Walsh has won all the wars.

Anyone can see that recruitment has been a large part of the problem this season. It's not just a case of under performing stars needing a kick up the backside. There doesn't seem to have been a holistic approach, picking ingredients without any recipes in mind. We've sold/lost most valuable assets and our 7 biggest signings have been Williams, Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Klaassen, Keane, Pickford and Sigurdsson. It's not easy to pick out the success stories, performances or see profit.

I don't see a lot of reason to doubt the story, Koeman had a very difficult relationship with Walsh, and it's clear who won that fight. Allardyce appears to be a Walsh recruitment choice. Royle was there to help Unsworth, wouldn't be surprised if that included protection in club power struggles. Its big ego's fighting for their lucrative contracts and Walsh has won all the wars.

Anyone can see that recruitment has been a large part of the problem this season. It's not just a case of under performing stars needing a kick up the backside. There doesn't seem to have been a holistic approach, picking ingredients without any recipes in mind. We've sold/lost most valuable assets and our 7 biggest signings have been Williams, Bolasie, Schneiderlin, Klaassen, Keane, Pickford and Sigurdsson. It's not easy to pick out the success stories, performances or see profit.

Obviously didn't intend to like that, what a load of bollocks speculation borne out of one posters saying "he had heard" heard from who ? The kid down the offie ? Is it so inconceivable that at 67 he simply decided to play a bit more golf ? Nah, not sensationalist enough is it ! "Don't see a lot of reason to doubt the story " Really ? How can anyone with a modicum of intelligence possibly see any reason to believe such a random post ?

Slight change of tack but wasn't Harry Catterick assaulted at Blackpool's ground in 1966 when he played Royle instead of Alex Young and we lost? It might have been his debut as a 16yr old.Last defeat before we went on an unbeaten run and reached Wembley I think - which does make you wonder about alternative strategies for dealing with underperforming managers who pick the wrong players.

Obviously didn't intend to like that, what a load of bollocks speculation borne out of one posters saying "he had heard" heard from who ? The kid down the offie ? Is it so inconceivable that at 67 he simply decided to play a bit more golf ? Nah, not sensationalist enough is it ! "Don't see a lot of reason to doubt the story " Really ? How can anyone with a modicum of intelligence possibly see any reason to believe such a random post ?

To get topic back on track, Royle has been a loyal servant over the years and whatever the reasons for his resignation. Still the last manager to win us a trophy and deserves huge amount of respect and appreciation for his contribution since.

Slight change of tack but wasn't Harry Catterick assaulted at Blackpool's ground in 1966 when he played Royle instead of Alex Young and we lost? It might have been his debut as a 16yr old.Last defeat before we went on an unbeaten run and reached Wembley I think - which does make you wonder about alternative strategies for dealing with underperforming managers who pick the wrong players.

Yeah, read all about it in When Saturday Comes or Looking for the Toffees. Wasn't a popular guy but a great manager.