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<br />OK, I made it past Drill 89, Ex 90 Pts I & II, and Drill 94. Ex 95 wasn't so bad, but I'm unsure about 2 of the questions (out of 8 which isn't too bad).<br /><br />--==<>==--<br /><br />#2 Tiberim, fluvium Römänum, quis nön laudat et pulchrös fluviö finitimös agrös?<br /> Who doesn't praise the Tiber, the Roman River, and the beautiful neighboring fields by the river.<br />or<br /> Who doesn't praise the Tiber, the Roman River, and the beautiful neighbors and fields by the river.<br /><br />This one took me a long time because I couldn't work out the second part of the sentence, so I came up with two possible answers. I wasn't sure about which sentence to go with.<br />I figure fluviö must either be DAT or ABL, and DAT didn't seem to make much sense so it must be ABL.<br />I figured that pulchrös was the adjective agreeing with finitimös & agrös, yet the adj was separated by fluviö! This really threw me off for a while.<br />Then there's finitimös and agrös which are both ACC.<br />I'm not really happy about the 1st translation because I don't think the plural finitimös is supposed to translate to "neighboring".<br />And the 2nd translation doesn't seem right because there seems to be lacking an extra word for "and" in the original Latin. ???<br /><br />--==<>==--<br /><br />#5 Agrï bonï agricolïs praemia dant magna, et equï agricolärum cöpiam frümentï ad oppida et vïcös portant.<br /> Good fields give great rewards to the farmers and horses care plenty of farmers and wheat to towns and villages.<br /><br />Oh my, look at how long this sentence is! They're getting longer and longer! I struggled with the 2nd part of the sentence. What threw me off was the GEN frümentï separated by the GEN agricolärum, and I couldn't figure out where the ACC cöpiam fit into the scheme of things.<br />

#2 I would be inclined to agree with your first sentence. While the second sentence is sound, rivers don't really have "neighbors." That is an unusual use of the ablative... the way you translated it would make it locative, but I don't think you have even learned that yet. I'm not sure what the exact expected choice of words would be.<br /><br />#5 While your answer is accurate, it would make much more sense as "Good fields give great rewards to the farmers, and the farmers' horses carry plenty of wheat to towns and villages." (as opposed to an abundance of farmers!)

[quote author=bingley link=board=3;threadid=301;start=0#1957 date=1059122978]<br />According to my pocket dictionary finitimus can be used with a dative to mean bordering on (whatever's in the dative).<br />[/quote]<br /><br />That's right. See Bennett § 192. Dative occurs with adjectives signifying "friendly... near, related to, similar..."<br /><br />Belgae sunt proximi Germanis "The Belgians are next to the Germans (Dative)".<br /><br /> But what is a Partial Differential Equation?<br />

[quote author=bingley link=board=3;threadid=301;start=0#1957 date=1059122978]<br />According to my pocket dictionary finitimus can be used with a dative to mean bordering on (whatever's in the dative).[/quote]<br /><br />You are correct! I saw the noun part of the word, but the adjective part didn't register so I didn't add that to my vocabulary list. (Since I'm only carrying the few pages of BLD which I'm working on, I've enumerated all the vocab we've learned so far into a text document which I print out to carry with me.) Well, that clears up a lot of things for me.<br />

<br /><br />I think your sentence is correct, it sounds more elegant. I guess I made the mistake of tacking copiam to agricolarum which is why I spiraled down the wrong path.<br /><br />I didn't know that UK corn = US wheat. Then what is US corn called in the UK?<br /><br />

[quote author=benissimus link=board=3;threadid=301;start=0#1958 date=1059123007]<br />That is an unusual use of the ablative... the way you translated it would make it locative, but I don't think you have even learned that yet.[/quote]<br /><br />I missed the usage of finitimus + dat which Bingley pointed out. Fluvio turned out to be DAT; I got really screwed up when I eliminated DAT as an option.<br /><br />Nope, we haven't touched on the Locative yet. I already have my hands full with NOM, GEN, DAT, ACC, and ABL. What is the Locative? <br />

[quote author=Skylax link=board=3;threadid=301;start=0#1982 date=1059161694]<br />But what is a Partial Differential Equation? [/quote]<br /><br />It's a math thing. Some people have the pleasure of taking PDE as an upper-division math course in college.<br />

Don't worry about the Locative yet. It's used to express location (what a surprise) but only for proper names of places and a couple of other words like domus (home) and rus (countryside).<br /><br />US corn = UK sweet corn or maize

great is the fame of Italy, of fatherland of Romansgreat is the fame of Italy, the fatherland of the Romans

you are right that patriae is a genitive; but it is a genitive, because it is in apposition to Italy (apposition: word describing another word, it is in the same case as the word it describes). Ergo: Italiae = patriae Romanorum. You don't repeat the 'of' part in your translation.

- Pulchra est terra Italia

beautiful is the land of ItalyItaly is beautiful land

Word order is flexible, certainly in Latin, sometimes even in English . Both sentences are right (ah, well, I'd write: Italy is a beautiful land).

- In agrīs populī Rōmānī labōrant multī servī

In the fields many slaves of Roman people workIn the fields of Roman people work many slaves

populi Romani is closer to agris then to multi servi, so I would put the Roman people with the fields, not the slaves. I suppose the slaves working on the fields belong to the Romans too, but who knows ?

which ones r the right ones ? for every sentence, one is from answer key, the other one is my translation