There are 66 people on the plane including two babies and one child.It disappeared off Egyptian radar 10 minutes into Egyptian air space at 02:45 local time/01:45 BST.

Officials have launched a search and rescue operation incase it has crashed but currently they don't know what's happened.

There's also been some confusion with regards to a distress call received two hours after the plane disappeared off radar with the airline saying that the military received a distress call but the military denied it about fifteen minutes ago.

I've just seen they have apparently confirmed this as well although they still don't have any definitive proof that it has crashed. They are saying the plane fell 22,000 feet And turned sharply before vanishing off the radar.

As tough as it is going by that I would have to say it more than likely crashed or there has been some sort of decompression on board and the pilot descended 22,000 feet but I guess that still wouldn't explain why nothing had been heard. I feel absolutely terrible for the families of the people on the plane.

This is why I hate flying and have to drown myself in Valium before flying. It's so unnatural to be that high in the sky.

It's so awful for those involved and their families, I really feel for them.

You are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more likely to die in a car crash than in an airplane crash. That's just plain common sense. Every time there's an airplane crash, people get into panicking mode really quickly forgetting that while it's obviously very sad to see so many people die so tragically, far more people die in car crashes every single day. But do we see news stories about them? Nope. Because people don't want to imagine their lives without their metal toys and so they unconsciously think of all those car accident deaths as a given, a sacrifice. It's all very sad.

You are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more likely to die in a car crash than in an airplane crash. That's just plain common sense. Every time there's an airplane crash, people get into panicking mode really quickly forgetting that while it's obviously very sad to see so many people die so tragically, far more people die in car crashes every single day. But do we see news stories about them? Nope. Because people don't want to imagine their lives without their metal toys and so they unconsciously think of all those car accident deaths as a given, a sacrifice. It's all very sad.

Rant over oops~

300 people don't tend to die in a single car accident.

There's car crashes in the news constantly here, primarily in local news but big losses of lives and large multicar pile ups do make national news.

Also the fact that it's rarer tends to mean it's a bigger story when it actually happens. Low frequency, high loss of life = rare event that is a major incident. High frequency, low loss of life = everyday occurrence. There's no pro-car agenda on the go, just the basic principle of common sense. If you have 30 minutes for your national news and there was 3 fatal road accidents that day spread over a 600 square mile area with a total of 5 dead (which is slightly over the daily average number of road fatalities in the UK for 2013 of 4.69 deaths per day), or an airliner that has vanished a la MH370 with 66 people on board - which story are you going to run?

^Air travel is perfectly safe, and statistically is the safest form of transport.As with every airliner crash this is a tragic mass loss of life

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You are faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar more likely to die in a car crash than in an airplane crash. That's just plain common sense. Every time there's an airplane crash, people get into panicking mode really quickly forgetting that while it's obviously very sad to see so many people die so tragically, far more people die in car crashes every single day. But do we see news stories about them? Nope. Because people don't want to imagine their lives without their metal toys and so they unconsciously think of all those car accident deaths as a given, a sacrifice. It's all very sad.

Rant over oops~

Ha! I do know the this, but it's not going to stop me from freaking out every time I fly. & I don't particularly enjoy driving either. How many people die every time they see a house spider? I'm still irrationally terrified of them.

On the subject of plane safety, I've seen a few news stories about laser pointers becoming a major concern. I've never been too nervous when flying but the thought of someone on the ground trying to point a laser up into the cockpit to mess with the pilot makes me uneasy. Car accidents definitely scare me more though because they happen so frequently, they're constantly in the local news here too.

Ha! I do know the this, but it's not going to stop me from freaking out every time I fly. & I don't particularly enjoy driving either. How many people die every time they see a house spider? I'm still irrationally terrified of them.

I was just saying that if the fear of an airplane crash was the reason stopping you from flying then it shouldn't really be. But a phobia is a different thing indeed.

Spiders take more lives than airplane and car crashes combined. I die a little bit inside every time I see one of them as well :'(

They've confirmed that today they have definitely found Debris and items belong to the passengers and are now looking for the black boxes.

Sad sad day for the Families of Flight 804 Passengers.

One thing I don't get about this whole thing is that the Egypt Military claimed they received an automatic distress signal 2 hours after the plane dropped off radar and then retracted it.

Then The Egyptair Airline claimed to have found Debris from the plane without having proof it was actually from the plane then retracted their statement and apparently everyone is saying it was more than likely a terrorist attack. But they don't have any proof and no one has claimed responsibility.