Good response to North Yorkshire Police Special Constables recruitment campaign

North Yorkshire Police chiefs have welcomed the response to a recruitment campaign for Special Constables.

Between January 13 and February 7, 5,100 people visited nypspecials.com, set up to support the campaign.

These visits resulted in 673 expressions of interest and 178 applications submitted.

The 80 candidates who passed the initial test are now going through interviews and assessments at a National Recruitment Assessment Centre at North Yorkshire Police’s Newby Wiske Headquarters.

Once completed, the successful candidates will commence their formal training as a Special Constable. This will take place over 18 consecutive Saturdays, plus a week-long session half way through the course.

Julia Mulligan, Police and Crime Commissioner for North Yorkshire said: “Doubling the number of Special Constables from 150 to 300 by 2016 is an important component of the Police and Crime Plan, so this is a welcome step forward in the recruitment.”

North Yorkshire Assistant Chief Constable Paul Kennedy said: “I am very encouraged by the number of people who took the time to visit our Special Constable recruitment microsite which we set up especially for this campaign.

"It shows that there is a great deal of interest in volunteering for North Yorkshire Police, with people willing to give their time to help keep our local communities safe and secure.”

Comments (15)

Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.

Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.RollandSmoke

Yet another backward step and further decline in the standards of policing in the UK today as a result of under funding. WE have Community Support Officers that are uniformed to look as close to police officers as possible and have limited, though ever increasing powers, Special Constables who also appear almost identical and yet both receive far less training and are subject to much lower selection standards.

Yet another backward step and further decline in the standards of policing in the UK today as a result of under funding. WE have Community Support Officers that are uniformed to look as close to police officers as possible and have limited, though ever increasing powers, Special Constables who also appear almost identical and yet both receive far less training and are subject to much lower selection standards.Mik_e

RollandSmoke wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.

growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!!

[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.[/p][/quote]growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!!tinytoonster

RollandSmoke wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.

growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!!

"the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.

[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.[/p][/quote]growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!![/p][/quote]"the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.RollandSmoke

The answer is glaringly obvious merge the division and lets have Super Yorkshire force. Scrap this lunacy of special constables and lets have some private company like GeoAmey dealing with lesser offences. They can deal with these more effectively within a market driven approach since the current police's approach is lining their own pockets!

The answer is glaringly obvious merge the division and lets have Super Yorkshire force. Scrap this lunacy of special constables and lets have some private company like GeoAmey dealing with lesser offences. They can deal with these more effectively within a market driven approach since the current police's approach is lining their own pockets!999 number of the beast

999 number of the beast wrote:
The answer is glaringly obvious merge the division and lets have Super Yorkshire force. Scrap this lunacy of special constables and lets have some private company like GeoAmey dealing with lesser offences. They can deal with these more effectively within a market driven approach since the current police's approach is lining their own pockets!

I see what you are saying but isn't this exactly what the government is aiming for and the start of a slippery slope to a fully privatised police force? They have done the same thing with the NHS, starve them of resources highlight all of their failings to turn public opinion against them then step in with the solution of privatisation that no-one other than the government wanted in the first place? It's a typical Hegelian dialectic (problem, reaction,solution). The government have caused this problem, it is doubtful that the solution they suggest is what is going to be the correct one for anyone other than the shareholders of the private companies chosen for the contract.

[quote][p][bold]999 number of the beast[/bold] wrote:
The answer is glaringly obvious merge the division and lets have Super Yorkshire force. Scrap this lunacy of special constables and lets have some private company like GeoAmey dealing with lesser offences. They can deal with these more effectively within a market driven approach since the current police's approach is lining their own pockets![/p][/quote]I see what you are saying but isn't this exactly what the government is aiming for and the start of a slippery slope to a fully privatised police force? They have done the same thing with the NHS, starve them of resources highlight all of their failings to turn public opinion against them then step in with the solution of privatisation that no-one other than the government wanted in the first place? It's a typical Hegelian dialectic (problem, reaction,solution). The government have caused this problem, it is doubtful that the solution they suggest is what is going to be the correct one for anyone other than the shareholders of the private companies chosen for the contract.RollandSmoke

RollandSmoke wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.

growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!!

&quot;the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.

its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.

[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.[/p][/quote]growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!![/p][/quote]"the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.[/p][/quote]its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.tinytoonster

999 number of the beast wrote:
The answer is glaringly obvious merge the division and lets have Super Yorkshire force. Scrap this lunacy of special constables and lets have some private company like GeoAmey dealing with lesser offences. They can deal with these more effectively within a market driven approach since the current police's approach is lining their own pockets!

I see what you are saying but isn't this exactly what the government is aiming for and the start of a slippery slope to a fully privatised police force? They have done the same thing with the NHS, starve them of resources highlight all of their failings to turn public opinion against them then step in with the solution of privatisation that no-one other than the government wanted in the first place? It's a typical Hegelian dialectic (problem, reaction,solution). The government have caused this problem, it is doubtful that the solution they suggest is what is going to be the correct one for anyone other than the shareholders of the private companies chosen for the contract.

oh look its all big bad cameron's fault.
change the record.
they are all the same.
democracy my ar-se!!

[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]999 number of the beast[/bold] wrote:
The answer is glaringly obvious merge the division and lets have Super Yorkshire force. Scrap this lunacy of special constables and lets have some private company like GeoAmey dealing with lesser offences. They can deal with these more effectively within a market driven approach since the current police's approach is lining their own pockets![/p][/quote]I see what you are saying but isn't this exactly what the government is aiming for and the start of a slippery slope to a fully privatised police force? They have done the same thing with the NHS, starve them of resources highlight all of their failings to turn public opinion against them then step in with the solution of privatisation that no-one other than the government wanted in the first place? It's a typical Hegelian dialectic (problem, reaction,solution). The government have caused this problem, it is doubtful that the solution they suggest is what is going to be the correct one for anyone other than the shareholders of the private companies chosen for the contract.[/p][/quote]oh look its all big bad cameron's fault.
change the record.
they are all the same.
democracy my ar-se!!tinytoonster

RollandSmoke wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.

growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!!

&quot;the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.

its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.

"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?

[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.[/p][/quote]growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!![/p][/quote]"the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.[/p][/quote]its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.[/p][/quote]"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?RollandSmoke

RollandSmoke wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.

growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!!

&quot;the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.

its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.

"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?

He's probably not a copper but part of what I call the 'Dixon of Dock Green' Brigade who believe all officers are not racist, sexist, homophobic or corrupt.
A curveball was Mark Flash Stoner following the law when he damaged property when he was an 'environmental protester' and slept with environmentalist as part of his cover?

[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.[/p][/quote]growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!![/p][/quote]"the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.[/p][/quote]its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.[/p][/quote]"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?[/p][/quote]He's probably not a copper but part of what I call the 'Dixon of Dock Green' Brigade who believe all officers are not racist, sexist, homophobic or corrupt.
A curveball was Mark Flash Stoner following the law when he damaged property when he was an 'environmental protester' and slept with environmentalist as part of his cover?999 number of the beast

RollandSmoke wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.

growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!!

&quot;the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.

its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.

"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?

He's probably not a copper but part of what I call the 'Dixon of Dock Green' Brigade who believe all officers are not racist, sexist, homophobic or corrupt.
A curveball was Mark Flash Stoner following the law when he damaged property when he was an 'environmental protester' and slept with environmentalist as part of his cover?

I think the point he was making is that the police are not allowed independent thought, which is a good thing as the selection process is designed to weed out anyone capable of such things, and the police are nothing more than the government's ****. That's what you're saying isn't it TinyIQBrain?

[quote][p][bold]999 number of the beast[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.[/p][/quote]growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!![/p][/quote]"the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.[/p][/quote]its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.[/p][/quote]"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?[/p][/quote]He's probably not a copper but part of what I call the 'Dixon of Dock Green' Brigade who believe all officers are not racist, sexist, homophobic or corrupt.
A curveball was Mark Flash Stoner following the law when he damaged property when he was an 'environmental protester' and slept with environmentalist as part of his cover?[/p][/quote]I think the point he was making is that the police are not allowed independent thought, which is a good thing as the selection process is designed to weed out anyone capable of such things, and the police are nothing more than the government's ****. That's what you're saying isn't it TinyIQBrain?RollandSmoke

RollandSmoke wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.

growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!!

&quot;the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.

its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.

"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?

He's probably not a copper but part of what I call the 'Dixon of Dock Green' Brigade who believe all officers are not racist, sexist, homophobic or corrupt.
A curveball was Mark Flash Stoner following the law when he damaged property when he was an 'environmental protester' and slept with environmentalist as part of his cover?

I think the point he was making is that the police are not allowed independent thought, which is a good thing as the selection process is designed to weed out anyone capable of such things, and the police are nothing more than the government's ****. That's what you're saying isn't it TinyIQBrain?

**** = female dog

[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]999 number of the beast[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.[/p][/quote]growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!![/p][/quote]"the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.[/p][/quote]its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.[/p][/quote]"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?[/p][/quote]He's probably not a copper but part of what I call the 'Dixon of Dock Green' Brigade who believe all officers are not racist, sexist, homophobic or corrupt.
A curveball was Mark Flash Stoner following the law when he damaged property when he was an 'environmental protester' and slept with environmentalist as part of his cover?[/p][/quote]I think the point he was making is that the police are not allowed independent thought, which is a good thing as the selection process is designed to weed out anyone capable of such things, and the police are nothing more than the government's ****. That's what you're saying isn't it TinyIQBrain?[/p][/quote]**** = female dogRollandSmoke

RollandSmoke wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.

growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!!

&quot;the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.

its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.

"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?

We live in a democracy, just because you dislike some of our laws do something about it . Why don't you write to or lobby your MP?, or better still stand as an candidate , get elected and then persuade approximately 350 other MP's to vote for your cause.

[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.[/p][/quote]growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!![/p][/quote]"the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.[/p][/quote]its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.[/p][/quote]"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?[/p][/quote]We live in a democracy, just because you dislike some of our laws do something about it . Why don't you write to or lobby your MP?, or better still stand as an candidate , get elected and then persuade approximately 350 other MP's to vote for your cause.Dr Martin

RollandSmoke wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.

growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!!

&quot;the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.

its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.

"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?

We live in a democracy, just because you dislike some of our laws do something about it . Why don't you write to or lobby your MP?, or better still stand as an candidate , get elected and then persuade approximately 350 other MP's to vote for your cause.

You need a big chunk of money that you can afford to gamble in order to stand as a candidate. It's a major barrier to democracy but these are the rules that we must play by.

[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.[/p][/quote]growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!![/p][/quote]"the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.[/p][/quote]its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.[/p][/quote]"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?[/p][/quote]We live in a democracy, just because you dislike some of our laws do something about it . Why don't you write to or lobby your MP?, or better still stand as an candidate , get elected and then persuade approximately 350 other MP's to vote for your cause.[/p][/quote]You need a big chunk of money that you can afford to gamble in order to stand as a candidate. It's a major barrier to democracy but these are the rules that we must play by.RollandSmoke

RollandSmoke wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.

growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!!

&quot;the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.

its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.

"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?

We live in a democracy, just because you dislike some of our laws do something about it . Why don't you write to or lobby your MP?, or better still stand as an candidate , get elected and then persuade approximately 350 other MP's to vote for your cause.

You need a big chunk of money that you can afford to gamble in order to stand as a candidate. It's a major barrier to democracy but these are the rules that we must play by.

I don't consider £500 the major barrier, it's the fact you are unlikely to get elected if you do belong to the 3 main parties

[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tinytoonster[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]RollandSmoke[/bold] wrote:
Would you arrest your elderly Grandparent if you found out that they were growing cannabis to ease the crippling pain of arthritis and take away their medication leaving them reliant on prescription medication that is less effective and may cause terrible side effects?
Do you have a good understanding of the law and of policing by consent?
If the answer to the first question is yes and the second no then you too could be an ideal candidate for an unpaid job doing what the underfunded police force no longer have the resources to do.[/p][/quote]growing cannabis is illegal, end of.
the law is the law regardless of wether its morally right or not.
just a cheap way to police the country, and before any anti government people start.
we had them with labour!![/p][/quote]"the law is the law regardless of whether it is morally right or wrong" So what are we basing these laws on then because there is no scientific basis for it being illegal either? Should we just do as we are told because we are told? That may work for you tinytoonbrain but that's because you're an idiot. If the law cannot be justified then this is nothing to do with justice. If the police are enforcing unjust laws then they have no right to expect respect which when policing by consent is a useful thing to have.[/p][/quote]its not up to us decide if the law is right or wrong.
we just implement what the laws are.[/p][/quote]"we just implement what the laws are" So you're a copper are you? Actually unless we live in a totalitarian state then we can't just have laws thrust upon us with no option to appeal against those laws. Is that what we are in?[/p][/quote]We live in a democracy, just because you dislike some of our laws do something about it . Why don't you write to or lobby your MP?, or better still stand as an candidate , get elected and then persuade approximately 350 other MP's to vote for your cause.[/p][/quote]You need a big chunk of money that you can afford to gamble in order to stand as a candidate. It's a major barrier to democracy but these are the rules that we must play by.[/p][/quote]I don't consider £500 the major barrier, it's the fact you are unlikely to get elected if you do belong to the 3 main partiesDr Martin