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Re: Our race IS NOT dying!

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Originally Posted by cambridge

This is what I find confusing about that Aragon. First of all I'm not sure what your referring to when you say 0.25%. Do you mean growth of the White population? And if so, what do you mean in that instance by White? Secondly and more importantly, you said

Originally Posted by ARAGON
That's the TFR (total fertility rate), where ~2.1 is called "replacement level". And again, your figure includes Mexicans, all of whom are included as "white". The TFR for Non-Hispanic Whites alone is 1.83.

So, you seem to be saying that the White population is growing; on the other hand, you seem to be saying it is shrinking.

The real White population growth is 0.25% including immigration from Britain, Poland, Canada, Eastern Europe, etc., and 0.20% by natural increase.

It's possible for a population to increase in numbers with below replacement birth rates, even FAR below replacement birth rates, if the birth rate was very high 30-40 years ago and there are still more children than elderly. However, the population will eventually start to decline as those born during the "baby boom" of yesteryear finally start to die off.

To better understand what I'm talking about, go to the link below. This is the demographic data for South Korea, which has a TFR of only 1.2. However, because back in the 1960s Korean women regularly had 5+ children, there are a LOT of 30-40 year olds and very few elderly. But since these boomers have only 1.2 children on average, you can see the number of babies born are a lot smaller than the 30-40 year old age groups. But because they are still larger than the number of elderly, South Korea's population is still growing, at a rate of 0.4% per year, higher than the White American rate of 0.2% per year, even though our TFR rate is higher by at least 50%! HOWEVER, as these boomers start to die off in 30-40 years, South Korea will start to lose population... and quickly.http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbsum.pl?cty=KS

Here's Russia, which has a declining population and a TFR of 1.3, higher than both South Korea and Hong Kong. If you go down and look at the population pyramid, you can see that there are a lot more elderly in Russia's population than South Korea's. Russia has had a relatively low birth rate for decades, and because of this, a TFR of 1.3 causes the population to shrink.http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbsum.pl?cty=RS

Well at least Russia is still 79% but still I don't know how much it is for the younger people because I know that more of the white people will be old then the non-whites

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Declining population

Lower birth rates and higher death rates reduced Russia's population at a 0.5% annual rate during the 1990s. This rate however is accelerating. [1] For every 1,000 Russians there are 16 deaths and just 10.6 births leading to a population decline of about 750,000 to 800,000 a year. The UN warned that Russia's 2005 population of about 140 million could fall by a third by 2050. Though the number of Russians living in poverty has halved since the economic crisis following the disintegration of the Soviet Union, the improving economy has had a positive impact on the country's low birth-rate (According to the US Census Bureau the nadir was 8.27 per 1000 in 1999 the 2006 rate is estimated at 9.95 per 1000. For comparison the US birh rate in 2006 is 14.14 and the current UK birth rate is 10.71 per 1000).

By comparison, in many developed countries birth rates have also dropped below the long-term population replacement rate, most countries use immigration to avoid the population actually declining. Population decline is particularly drastic in Russia, with higher death rates especially among working-age males due to poverty, abuse of alcohol and other substances, disease, stress, and other afflictions. ( According to the US Census Bureau the death rate in 1989 was 10.76 per 1000, the low point came in 2001 at 15.45 per 1000, the 2006 rate is estimated at 14.65. For comparison the current US death rate is 8.26 per 1000 and the UK death rate is 10.13 per 1000) Russians mostly disapprove of permanent or temporary immigration of working-age males from countries other than the Russian-speaking former Soviet states.

The crisis and planned government measures to halt it was a key subject of Vladimir Putin's 2006 state of the nation address.
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Abortions

It is estimated that there are more abortions than births in Russia. In 2004, at least 1.6 million women had an abortion ( a fifth of them under the age of 18) and about 1.5 million gave birth. The reason behind this high abortion rate is the fact that the birth of a first child pushes many families into poverty. [2]

As of the 2002 census, 79.83% of the population (115,889,107 people) is ethnically Russian

Belarus is still 81% Belarusian but the population is shrinking and the immigration rate is fairly high so I guess that most of them moving there are non-whites moving there

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The majority of the population of Belarus are native Belarusians, who comprise 81.2% of the total population of 10,293,011 people.

Most demographic indicators for Belarus resemble other European countries, notably with both the population growth rate and the natural growth rate in the negative. The population growth is currently at −0.06% in 2005, with a fertility rate of 1.43. The population is also growing older, and by the year 2050, the majority of the population will be over the age of 50.[21] The migration rate is +2.3 for every 1 000 people in Belarus.

And YES, we are dying. Race mixing kills the races, including ours. We are reproducing under the population replacement level, and every year we make up a lower percent of the population. It will take less than 20 years for all the big capitals in Europe to be less than 50% White, and by 2050 we will be the minority in most parts of Europe and the US.

The real White population growth is 0.25% including immigration from Britain, Poland, Canada, Eastern Europe, etc., and 0.20% by natural increase.

It's possible for a population to increase in numbers with below replacement birth rates, even FAR below replacement birth rates, if the birth rate was very high 30-40 years ago and there are still more children than elderly. However, the population will eventually start to decline as those born during the "baby boom" of yesteryear finally start to die off.

To better understand what I'm talking about, go to the link below. This is the demographic data for South Korea, which has a TFR of only 1.2. However, because back in the 1960s Korean women regularly had 5+ children, there are a LOT of 30-40 year olds and very few elderly. But since these boomers have only 1.2 children on average, you can see the number of babies born are a lot smaller than the 30-40 year old age groups. But because they are still larger than the number of elderly, South Korea's population is still growing, at a rate of 0.4% per year, higher than the White American rate of 0.2% per year, even though our TFR rate is higher by at least 50%! HOWEVER, as these boomers start to die off in 30-40 years, South Korea will start to lose population... and quickly.http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbsum.pl?cty=KS

Here's Russia, which has a declining population and a TFR of 1.3, higher than both South Korea and Hong Kong. If you go down and look at the population pyramid, you can see that there are a lot more elderly in Russia's population than South Korea's. Russia has had a relatively low birth rate for decades, and because of this, a TFR of 1.3 causes the population to shrink.http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/idbsum.pl?cty=RS

O.k., so from those sites, you can pretty well see that the population, over the next 20 years, will be shifting from a younger population, to an older one, as the baby boom wave sort of passes through the graphic at the bottom of the pages you linked too. What confuses me though, is why is the population shifting, if boomers averaged ~2 kids per women?

if you were to come to the city i live in and look around you would know that our race is dying. the majority of whites left are in nursing homes, senior retirement villages and the cemetarys. most of the white population is past child bearing age and being thinking people who were concerned how they and the planet was going to support an overage of population kept their breeding level down to the average 1.3 children, while the blacks and hispanics not caring about the environment and always aiming for that big welfare check average four children ( that's a guess on the average because most i see living around me have 5/6/8 children on average).our only hope is to get whites to have more white children or find some way to sterlize the mud. i also have to comment that it's hard to have pure white children when the majority of the breeding stock is mud/ mixed.