Re: [MAP RELEASE] Dingenskirchen - a tribute

We'll happily remake the bots for any beta version you come up with Kemon we have an excellent bot maker who is a total RTCW junkie so he'll happily work on any map you make. Our problem has always been scripting for maps we have several that we need additional spawnpoints made for if there is an idiot friendly tutorial out there or someone who could assist we'd be truly grateful!
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WeBDoGSter

Re: [MAP RELEASE] Dingenskirchen - a tribute

There is no definitive Guide I guess, as each map is different. In the end it boils down to add entities at the rights spot, edit script and done..
I will not support "private" modifications, but otherwise start a topic here, and plenty of mappers and I will help.

Else look at existing modifications, compare with original and learn from it.

Re: [MAP RELEASE] Dingenskirchen - a tribute

I know that a lot of people step back from mapping because of the script. In fact I recently started making a pro-scripting tutorial series that focuses on everything related to scripting. The series comprises at least 16 tutorials, some are already released here (including a spawn tutorial)

Finally, the reason TWT was founded was that mapper/coder have a platform Where they will find help and support. I am fully supportive in helping others with their projects and where else do you find people that make models just for you to put them into your project.

I encourage everyone interest in making maps and those actively mapping to join this community. You can only win

Re: [MAP RELEASE] Dingenskirchen - a tribute

Hmm, in this case it is about ETPro scripting, which requires to either decompile the map and place entities to get the right position, or guess approximately the values, and then modify the script with ETPro keywords

I recall making an Excel sheet to generate the values to put in the script from the origin keys of the placed entities, might dig it

Re: [MAP RELEASE] Dingenskirchen - a tribute

Originally Posted by Mateos

Hmm, in this case it is about ETPro scripting, which requires to either decompile the map and place entities to get the right position, or guess approximately the values, and then modify the script with ETPro keywords

I recall making an Excel sheet to generate the values to put in the script from the origin keys of the placed entities, might dig it

thanks for clarification mateos. you see, help is available from all angles and that's what I like here so much

Re: [MAP RELEASE] Dingenskirchen - a tribute

It is finally done! 3 years after the initial beta 1 release, we are happy to release a substantially re-worked and improved version of 'Dingenskirchen - a tribute'. If you can't wait for some visuals, then just go ahead and watch the trailer below. A big thank you to Titeuf for filming the trailer.

This map is a collaboration between phisherman and me and the result of, in total, more than 4 years of more or less continuous development. It was created as a tribute to the good old times of RtCW. We hope it will bring back some memories to the old-schoolers amongst you.
Since this is the second public release, any feedback (ranging from bad texture-alignment to glitches) is welcome.

-----Story-----

December 1944: The noose tightens around the Reich's neck as Allied forces threaten to cross the Siegfried Line and advance into Germany. In a strategy meeting in an Eifel castle, Kraut high command has worked out plans on how to repel the invaders. Allied intelligence wants these plans destroyed before they can be distributed to the front line.

This map has three main objectives instead of one, two of which must be completed by the Allies in order to win the match. This was done in an attempt to prevent the massive objective camping by the defending team on some maps.

-----Beta 2-----

The primary subject of the complaints about the first beta were low FPS, which rendered the map virtually unplayable as soon as some action came into play (support fires, explosives etc). Due to the initial openness of the map, which didn't allow for any vis-blocking, a substantial rework of the basic layout was necessary. As a result, the openness has been ditched in favor of a mountain range in the center. This separates the map into two outer parts, village and river/tram. The third part is the castle, which still rests comfortably on top of everything awing the puny player. It was an intentional design choice to keep the castle visible in both outer parts of the map. This obviously means that on the very top of the castle's Bergfried you will see the entire map, which will drain your FPS. This has no huge impact on gameplay, as the Bergfried basically just serves as a cinematic lookout and has no purpose regarding the main objective. If you decide to camp on the Bergfried, we can't help you.

Another big issue was the cluttered castle layout, which made people get lost in the corridors and staircases. The castle interior derived from the Singleplayer structure of the first two RtCW levels and thus, did not look as streamlined as the Multiplayer maps we are all used to. The castle layout has since been improved: Staircases have been reduced to a minimum and all doorways have been set to a wider opening size, allowing for quick movement. There is now also proper routing inside the castle, which allows a bit diversity while still creating viable chokepoints. The overall castle has also received a visual remake increasing the nostalgic effect for the RTCW players among you.

The rather large pk3 size when comparing the map to other custom ET maps has been reported by many as well. A map is downloaded once in your entire ET career (unless you re-install). Modern internet connections aren't as shabby as they used to be. Hence, the pk3 size has increased from 50mb in beta 1 to 60mb in beta 2. There will never be a 'light' version.

We have also received complaints about the Nazi symbolism in the map. The banners have been present in RtCW and leaving them out would (in our opinion) take away some of the original atmosphere. You are playing a World-War 2 shooter game. Denying the fact that the Axis were actual Nazis is denying history. Never deny history, learn from it! Don't fear symbols, remember what they stand for and never let it happen again!

-----The End?-----

We consider this beta to be the final version of the map. However, you can never know what issues may arise, so we released it as a second beta. Depending on the feedback we receive there might be a third, final version of this map, however it will not receive another total make-over.
The .map source-file is planned to be released with the final version. If this version is the final one, then we will release the source-file in the coming months. However, we first want to wait for the feedback.
If you find script bugs, map glitches or new places for binocs, please report them to us.

Re: [MAP RELEASE] Dingenskirchen - a tribute

Thank you, Magic!
I'm also looking forward to playing with humans on the UJE server again. So far it looks like gameplay works out smoothly, however the timelimit is a bit short. We'll see if we have to do something about that.
I would link your mirror in the post above, but it seems that it is broken. Could you maybe look into this? Maybe the pk3 got corrupted during upload or something.