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Re: My ranking of the Reds top 10 hitting prospects

Originally Posted by krm1580

Now looking at the numbers

Player K rate BB rate
Waring 36.2% 9%
Francisco 23.1% 3%

The fact that Waring is walking at an OK rate indicates he is laying off the really bad pitches but is still striking out at an alarming rate. This would indicate to me he has a either a really long swing or a slow bat or both.

Franciso on the other hand appears to be swinging at everything but is still making contact at a better rate than Waring.

So with that being said I believe Francisco can become a more effective player by controlling the strike zone better. Being that strike zone control is a skill that improves as players get older I think there is a chance he can get better. Waring seems to be aflicted with stike zone control and a slow bat/long swing which I think is much more to fix.

Now throw in that Franciso is 1.5 years younger and a level higher I think its a Big edge for Francisco. Honestly though I really doubt either player will make much of an impact at the major league level.

Good post and I agree with much of that. Part of the equation for me is that Francisco is younger, has a A- HR title under his belt and was in the Baseball America top 10 list prior to the season. Those credentials make me think he would be a tasty piece in a prospect package. Looking at the strengths and warts of each player, I think there is a decent chance that Waring could just as easily advance past Francisco as the other way around. So, lets deal the one that may help bring back the player we want to target while rolling the dice with the other (knowing all along young major leaguers EdE and Votto are in place and that Frazier, Soto, Alonso and maybe Valaika are ahead of both these guys as future corner infielders).

"All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

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Re: My ranking of the Reds top 10 hitting prospects

That's a nice list. I might flop Stubbs and Francisco (as HITTERS, if not as prospects) and elevate Dorn and Buchholz. Oliveras is pretty intriguing. And I think I'd find a spot for Sappelt. I like him a lot. I think.

Re: My ranking of the Reds top 10 hitting prospects

Originally Posted by mace

That's a nice list. I might flop Stubbs and Francisco (as HITTERS, if not as prospects) and elevate Dorn and Buchholz. Oliveras is pretty intriguing. And I think I'd find a spot for Sappelt. I like him a lot. I think.

Thanks. My list is more of a prospect list. If I went strictly by how they were hitting, I'd have Dorn way up there.

Also, keep an eye on Adam Rosales. He's mashing the ball in AAA right now. He started out very slowly, but has an OPS of .885 in June and July (over 220 plate appearances) after going .904 between Hi-A and AA last year. He should probably replace Andy Phillips and Chris Dickerson should obviously replace Patterson on the big club.

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