captain red dog wrote: Take the Pewdiepie debacle this week. The way that story was framed, and clips taken out of context (literally lifted from videos where he was making the exact opposite point) is deeply disturbing.

You've avoided this before - but let's try again. Find a MSM site that you think distorted the story.

No thanks Hexx, I'll take your earlier advice and just shut up as you always get hostile as soon as you are presented with an opinion you disagree with. It is pointless to try and debate you. I couldn't convince you even if I tried.

Yeah but you don't even try and find evidence - for anyone!. How very unreasonable of people to expect it.

Listen Majin bu just listen to CNN for one hour and come back tell me they are not expanding on the story without actual any further proof.

captain red dog wrote: Take the Pewdiepie debacle this week. The way that story was framed, and clips taken out of context (literally lifted from videos where he was making the exact opposite point) is deeply disturbing.

You've avoided this before - but let's try again. Find a MSM site that you think distorted the story.

No thanks Hexx, I'll take your earlier advice and just shut up as you always get hostile as soon as you are presented with an opinion you disagree with. It is pointless to try and debate you. I couldn't convince you even if I tried.

Yeah but you don't even try and find evidence - for anyone!. How very unreasonable of people to expect it.

Listen Majin bu just listen to CNN for one hour and come back tell me they are not expanding on the story without actual any further proof.

captain red dog wrote:The depressing thing for me is that Trump is actually right about the mainstream media, it's just that coming from him nobody takes it seriously. Nearly every story I read these days from a mainstream news site requires you to really look into it and do your own fact checking because chances are there will be a level of bullshit creating a slanted narrative.

That's not what is happening here, sure media needs to be more accurate, but right now you have the press of the world calling out The President of the USA as having colluded with the Russia government, he didn't even record his call to Putin, which is shocking. The media are trying to actually protect the people in this instance and are fact checking with people inside the White House, Trump even said the leaks are real, but then deflects that with cries of 'Fake News'. Trump is turning the people against the media to further his agendas, he realises he can't control the media so instead he discredits it. It so close to what Hitler did with the German media in 1933 it's almost unreal.

The narrative Trump is trying to tell the people is that the leakers are bad and the media are bad and that he is the good guy in all this. Which anyone with half a brain can see he is clearly not a good guy and clearly not the right person for the job.

Isn't it bit scary things are being leaked which might have huge impact on any decisions made ? Do you blame him that he doesn't record anything anymore due to all these leaks ? Conversations between us and Australia are one of those . Those leaks are illegal and media is putting a spin on it . The leaks are real but the news is fake makes a lot of sense. The leak happened but half of what is being reported is fake because they actually don't have actual proof besides knowing about the leak

They didn't hang Flynn out to dry for no reason, the leaks are worrying for Trump and Russia, they are not worrying for anybody else on this planet. The leaks are real and the content of them is real, but instead of being forthright with anything he says 'fake news' as if that's a qualifier. If the news was fake, his team should have somebody out there explaining exactly what has happened between this US government and Russia prior to his inauguration. Even his own VP is distancing himself from all of this and Pence is a piece of gooseberry fool.

They've been so quick with alternative facts, but now? Brush off what could be considered treason with 'fake news' no real rebuttal just 'fake news'.