Still wishing CBS would license one ACTUAL Goth song for their character to play in her forensics lab who looks like this! I can haz Bauhaus, Siouxsie, Dead Can Dance, London After Midnight??!? Or how about modern American Goth bands for her? Faith and the Muse, Bellweather Syndicate, She Wants Revenge, just once in a while maybe?

DownDaRiver:HotWingAgenda: DownDaRiver: And why is that godawful NCIS Los Angles still on the air? And why isn't it set in San Diego, where there is actually a real Naval base?

I didn't realize the naval background of Los Angeles and Long Beach was such a well-kept secret. You never even suspected there was a reason why there's an entire class of submarine designated as "Los Angeles"?

I am aware LB and LAs history. But it doesn't compare to SD in past and present naval presense. Beside Pendelton is nearer to SD. Seems to me SD would have been a better setting. But then again we are talking about a really, really crappy show. So its not worth getting into.

I happen to enjoy both NCIS shows, so number 1... BECAUSE FARK YOU THAT'S WHY!

Number 2... The show is filmed in LA, so easier

Number 3... A setting in LA would seem to lend itself to more stories. So that makes sense to me.

And really why the hate? It's a tongue in cheek cop show, really both of them are.

/Besides by ranting such as you have, you're just asking to get obliterated by the goddamn BATMAN Gibbs

Show has definetly run its course.More an more its now the Abby or Ziva show.Last Tuesdays show they barely had time to work in the whole murder then solving part. It was all Abby.At the end, if you sneezed you missed how they solved the case because it was all about Abby.

And why is that godawful NCIS Los Angles still on the air? And why isn't it set in San Diego, where there is actually a real Naval base?

I was watching an episode this past week which focused on Abby having some kind of flash back to some kind of childhood trauma and I thought this show must have jumped the shark with me because Abby is getting on my last nerve and I don't give a shait about what's bothering her.

Wife watches NCIS damn near 24/7 if possible. I don't get the appeal, they cycle the same format over and over. This show, Criminal Minds and the like have the same stereotypical characters. I don't actually watch many of the shows but I hear them all. When you remove what is apparently regarded as eye candy and only hear the shows it's apparent that they are stuck on repeat. I am amused by how the geeks on TV "hack" into anything in about 20 seconds accompanied by around 1000 pounding keystrokes in the background. I also like how they "hack" into other government agencies databases with no blowback whatsoever. Like I said, when all you get is the audio you get a little different viewpoint.

CipollinaFan:FirstNationalBastard: Spanky McStupid: The "Abby" character is getting to be a little too precious.

FirstNationalBastard: violentsalvation: I'm tired of all the family member / childhood episodes this season. DiNozzo's dad at Christmas, Ziva's dad episodes, Leon's you know what. Abby's stupid childhood story. It's alright, Leon's garbage collector brother, his brother's wife, Elinore, and his curmudgeonly father Andrew will be moving into Leon's little Baltimore apartment for the remainder of the season, while Leon will rediscover his passion for music and quit NCIS to play trumpet in small clubs.

Loved that show.

God Bless the child that's got his own.

That's one of those shows I don't know why it hasn't made it to DVD yet, but figure it'll get a Warner Archives release eventually.

Why do you need it on DVD? Just change your channel to USA and I am sure it will be on.

And if we were talking about NCIS, I'm sure you would be correct.

/NCIS, Or Law and Order: SVU. That's what USA is for.//But we're not discussing NCIS.

FirstNationalBastard: violentsalvation: I'm tired of all the family member / childhood episodes this season. DiNozzo's dad at Christmas, Ziva's dad episodes, Leon's you know what. Abby's stupid childhood story. It's alright, Leon's garbage collector brother, his brother's wife, Elinore, and his curmudgeonly father Andrew will be moving into Leon's little Baltimore apartment for the remainder of the season, while Leon will rediscover his passion for music and quit NCIS to play trumpet in small clubs.

Loved that show.

God Bless the child that's got his own.

That's one of those shows I don't know why it hasn't made it to DVD yet, but figure it'll get a Warner Archives release eventually.

Why do you need it on DVD? Just change your channel to USA and I am sure it will be on.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, because movie critics have to be filmmakers in order to level criticism against movies, TV critics have to be showrunners in order to assess TV shows, and book critics have to be established authors in order to pass judgment on literature.

You see, I'm not making the whole "you have to be X to criticize Y" argument.

What I'm saying is that I've never found these largely negative headlines to be particularly insightful, amusing, entertaining, clever, or worth our time. I never said or implied that subby had to be involved in the field of television to offer valid criticism about a TV show. You're reading far too much into what I said.

In short, good job on buttfumbling the point, Mr. Sanchez.

Well, Subby wasn't necessarily being negative. I mean, does it seem like NCIS has been on for 10 years? The cast hasn't exactly aged or changed that much, the show is still the same fun, goofy show it's always been... the first two years with Kate excluded, the only way you can tell a S3 episode from a S10 episode is by seeing whether it's Lauren Holly or Rocky Carroll as the Director.

/still say that NCIS is a well done DC Elseworlds where The Goddamn Batman became a Marine sniper, then a Navy cop.

It's alright, Leon's garbage collector brother, his brother's wife, Elinore, and his curmudgeonly father Andrew will be moving into Leon's little Baltimore apartment for the remainder of the season, while Leon will rediscover his passion for music and quit NCIS to play trumpet in small clubs.