I might go even further as you suggest...Is a god necessary ... or is it just a knee-jerk reaction to look somewhere else when one is faced with the possibility of responsibility of one's own actions or one's own mortality?

It is possible this god could be the bygone evolutionary byproduct of fear. It is possible this god is so entwined with fear in such a contrary and ironic manner, that humans tend to cling to this concept when the lights inexplicably go out. Nothing is accomplished but the perpetuation of fear because we only remember the fear... we only remember reacting to the fear and comfort is a warm, blue, god blankey.

Don't know... just a couple of thoughts.

A new type of thinking is essential if mankind is to survive and move to higher levels. ~ Albert Einstein

(24-03-2013 02:18 PM)kim Wrote: I might go even further as you suggest...Is a god necessary ... or is it just a knee-jerk reaction to look somewhere else when one is faced with the possibility of responsibility of one's own actions or one's own mortality?

It is possible this god could be the bygone evolutionary byproduct of fear. It is possible this god is so entwined with fear in such a contrary and ironic manner, that humans tend to cling to this concept when the lights inexplicably go out. Nothing is accomplished but the perpetuation of fear because we only remember the fear... we only remember reacting to the fear and comfort is a warm, blue, god blankey.

Don't know... just a couple of thoughts.

And most do not accept a fear/love dichotomy...

Ya know, ya got these cranks like Egor... need the idea of an eternal, unchanging paradigm. The way I see us, is like the brains of the apatosaurus, gotta lead the body away from the thorns. And if we don't market god, of course some one else is gonna... and they ain't gonna do half as good a job. Cause Gwynnie kicks Almighty ass.

(24-03-2013 02:24 PM)houseofcantor Wrote: And most do not accept a fear/love dichotomy...

I think people readily accept the codependent relationship with god... they fear the self as being too unknown. This behavior is learned, wholly addictive; Stockholm Syndrome and deprograming is such an angry, painful fight for some. What a waste of evolutionary time.

A new type of thinking is essential if mankind is to survive and move to higher levels. ~ Albert Einstein

Should I grow my own sack or suck on someone else's sweaty satchel? .... hmmm ... seems like a no brainer to me given that I can't be sure of their personal hygiene habits. Think it's only those who have been indoctrinated into the bullshit who feel the need to replace it. I am my own personal Savior, my own personal Jesus, my own personal God, but lifelong atheists like Chas and many others here don't feel that need, they don't need no antidote 'cause they never been poisoned.

There is only one really serious philosophical question, and that is suicide. -Camus

Quote: Think it's only those who have been indoctrinated into the bullshit who feel the need to replace it.

I guess I can see that, but my experience was the complete opposite. I guess I figured right off the bat that if the god I was raised to believe in (also being the same god in one version or another for most of the country) wasn't real, than any other god is bound to be just as false. I just don't see the point in replacing one crazy for another.

Quote: Think it's only those who have been indoctrinated into the bullshit who feel the need to replace it.

I guess I can see that, but my experience was the complete opposite. I guess I figured right off the bat that if the god I was raised to believe in (also being the same god in one version or another for most of the country) wasn't real, than any other god is bound to be just as false. I just don't see the point in replacing one crazy for another.

It's a coping mechanism. Cantor uses his Gwynnies and Girly uses hisself. Not everyone needs it, but we all do what we gotta do to stay in the game. ... Until the game ain't worth playing no more.

There is only one really serious philosophical question, and that is suicide. -Camus

(24-03-2013 02:54 PM)GirlyMan Wrote: I am my own personal Savior, my own personal Jesus, my own personal God, but lifelong atheists like Chas, Vosur and many others here don't feel that need, they don't need no antidote 'cause they never been poisoned.

(24-03-2013 02:54 PM)GirlyMan Wrote: I am my own personal Savior, my own personal Jesus, my own personal God, but lifelong atheists like Chas, Vosur and many others here don't feel that need, they don't need no antidote 'cause they never been poisoned.

(24-03-2013 02:54 PM)GirlyMan Wrote: I am my own personal Savior, my own personal Jesus, my own personal God, but lifelong atheists like Chas, Vosur and many others here don't feel that need, they don't need no antidote 'cause they never been poisoned.