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If you are legit Starbucks people who the fuck are you to tell someone to stop this?

Is he saying hey do this so you dont have to buy starbucks. No. You just want him to shush so you won’t lose profit

we people don’t look up new ways to get fucked up cause we want to be safe we know there as risks we don’t care we take em anyway so take you big wig commercial america concern for your pocket else where while we live our life

One does not need to use ammonia; I was making caffeine freebase 14 years ago for my brother in law, a pleasant little hobby. One would just need to use a suitably basic chemical, such as Sodium carbonate (which can be made from baking soda; all one needs to do is bake it in the oven for about 10 minutes at 500 degrees Fahrenheit). The resulting freebase can be purified well beyond the results from the simple method outlined here: my product was pure white, with beautiful almost clear crystals, finer than table salt.

Probably like popping 10 or so NoDoze – which I remember doing when I was like 16. I was working at Shakey’s Pizza at the time – and boy was I ever shaky. Gave me diarrhea too. Couldn’t sleep that night, just did TM the whole night.

the most bitter chemical compound known to date … used as aversive agents to prevent accidental ingestion. Denatonium is used in denatured alcohol antifreeze, nail biting preventions, animal repellents, liquid soaps, and shampoos. It is not known to pose any long-term health risks however is classed as a skin and eye irritant.

I don’t see why you’d use black coffee instead of NoDoz or a generic. Black coffee boiled down like that has a lot of oils and ash, as well as non-caffeine psycho-active alkaloids. Try it for yourself, just compare the effect of 200 mg. pure caffeine, with 4/5 of a *$ tall (which has 260 mg total). They’re both stimulating but the nuances are different.

“I’m not sure why you’d want to do this. Caffeine works fine orally, and smoking substances is something that should be avoided if there are safer ways to take them. Smoking anything can be harmful for your lungs.”

Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think this is a roundabout political commentary on drug regulation. The schoolyard bit should give that away, no? I’d like to think of a hard-line war on drug-supporting zealot seeing this and saying “We clearly have to criminalize coffee!”

Also I think the ammonia will change composition during the freebase process much as it does during crack production. Still probably terribly unhealthy, but I don;t think this guy’s actually advocating this act.

I wish I could find the picture of a friend of mine baking some kind of crystalized cat litter over an outdoor fire. The idea was to put it back into the cat box, since he’d run out during a long weekend. It smelled bad, and produced white clouds of smoke. It didn’t smell like cat pee afterwards.

Sleeping late and smoking tea, indeed! Vaporized alcohol, designer hallucinogen breath strips, and individually printed capsules are making the rounds. There’s now a ton of well-known and common chemicals and delivery systems for your high of choice. Sounds like a subplot for a novel, or a novel entrepreneurial tactic.

#39: Since it isn’t food grade, I would think that “???” would be “remove trace amounts of toxic solvents”. You really don’t want to mess around with non-food grade stuff.

Also, having just taken Wikipedian Chemistry, I’ll have to call bullshit on this article. You can’t freebase caffeine since it’s a xanthine, and not an amine! There’s no base to “free”, and you just end up with nothing but the nastiest instant coffee crystals imaginable (with added ammonia)…

Yeah, considering that the last time I tried to drink a double-shot latte, I got ragingly ill within half an hour….I’m going to say no.

(No, I don’t know why my caffeine tolerance is so low. Latte with one shot? Delicious and useful for waking up. Latte with two shots? Apparently, makes me unsure whether I’m going to throw up, pass out, or die. I managed to do none of the above, but it was a near thing with the first.)

(I’ve since wondered whether they accidentally put 4 shots in it instead. It really doesn’t seem like 2 shots should have done that.)

#39: Since it isn’t food grade, I would think that “???” would be “remove trace amounts of toxic solvents”. You really don’t want to mess around with non-food grade stuff.

Also, having just taken Wikipedian Chemistry, I’ll have to call bullshit on this article. You can’t freebase caffeine since it’s a xanthine, and not an amine! There’s no base to “free”, and you just end up with nothing but the nastiest instant coffee crystals imaginable (with added ammonia)…

Ammonia is in tailored cigarettes, with alot of other crap. A few puffs on this is nothing compared to a few days inhaling exhaust fumes in a big city.

And yeah, I figure this is as much a comment on the absurdity of drug laws, or the hypocracy of legal drug takers. Considering Caffiene is readily marketed to children via energy drinks and sodas, and consumed in front of them every day at the breakfast table.

This had made me wanna freebase something fun. Damn you BoingBoing, it’s only Tuesday.

Its amazing how many ways there are to get high. Last night I my wife found a pill in her purse and wanted me to look it up to see what it was. It was a 50 mg Dimenhydrinate tablet (Dramamine, my kids get motion sick sometimes). When I googled it, the second result amazed me. Dramamine is a deliriant. Thank god I didn’t know about this when I was a teen – getting sick trying to get high on nutmeg was bad enough.

If dude had smoked the pipe, I still don’t know if I would believe it.

Freebasing cocaine works because you covert the salt form of cocaine (weak base) into the deprotonated form that is non-water soluble. The freebased form melts at a low temperature (~100Â°F) and vaporizes readily. The salt form of cocaine won’t vaporize (melts at 383 Â°F, burns at ~450Â°F), which is why you can’t effectively smoke powdered cocaine.

You can’t make caffeine sufficiently hydrophobic to melt at a low enough temperature to avoid physically burning the caffeine. You are smoking mostly something else when you smoke this. Which is why, I gather, he doesn’t do it with No-Doze.

#53: I don’t think I buy it. It says right at the top “I don’t claim that the methods
described in this file are safe or complete.” If you have a better source, show that one.

I assume you can freebase the caffeine, essentially converting the salt into the base form (don’t know for sure). I don’t think that the question is “can you smoke it” because you certainly can. You can smoke oregano if you want, it’s just not a good idea.

The guy is obviously trying to draw parallels to crack cocaine (which is obscenely easy to make). Not quite the same thing, as the caffeine still won’t readily vaporize after it has been freebased…

A student under the supervision of a friend of mine was hospitalised after (voluntarily and inexplicably) taking a very deep breath of ammonia. His face turned blue, and he collapsed to the ground. He apparently recovered completely; he was certainly back at work within a week.

#45, retchdog:

You can’t freebase caffeine since it’s a xanthine, and not an amine

It’s both a xanthine AND an amine. A tertiary amine, to be precise.

#38, Daemon:

Just as a point – while most people consider caffeine to be harmless, it’s classified as a hazardous material.

Frankly I’m tired of otherwise intelligent, well-educated people who are like frightened peasants from the dark ages when it comes to chemistry: once you boil off the ammonia it’s GONE, folks. Ammonia is a gas at room temperature and hence has a lower bowling point than water. I’m not advocating smoking freebase anything, but to just freak out because “it’s got ammonia in it” is simply naive. Because it doesn’t. Might as well not use soap because “it’s got lye in it.”

Back in the early 90s, an acquaintance of mine and his druggie friends decided to try smoking caffeine. After all, with many drugs such as opiates and cocaine, the effects of ingesting the raw plant material vs. ingesting the refined active chemicals vs. smoking the refined active chemicals can be quite different, so why not try it with caffeine. They crunched up some caffeine pills and smoked them.

He says “You Do Not want to do this.” All the bad things that caffeine does happened all at once, the jitters, the headaches, the nausea, and in general it was Not Fun.

@51:Thank god I didn’t know about this when I was a teen – getting sick trying to get high on nutmeg was bad enough.

Oh good, I’m glad to see I wasn’t the only asshat to try the “getting high on nutmeg” method. I ground down two nuts and ate them over ice cream. All I got was a bad headache and severe…bowel movement. Not exactly great for a party…

Just buy some caffeine tablets, or even better pharmaceutical grade caffeine powerder as they are freebase caffeine as well. Most basic drugs are made into hydrochloride salts to enhance water solubility, and this must be reversed to create a free base.

Caffeine is water soluble to start with due to certain groups attached to it in its freebase form, and therefore does not require this kind or processing.

With caffeine tablets or powerder you can do an extraction quite easily, and without chemicals that are as nasty as ammonia. This video is a very poor extraction anyways, because it does nothing to eliminate impurities.