Just spoke to a close friend who knows one of the largest donors of Ohio State alumni and the kicker endowment donor. He said according to him and a close ESPN friend, watch for Urban Meyer to be announced as the new OSU coach starting in 2012 (Luke to finish out and be retained on Defense with Mike V) on TUESDAY NIGHT at the OSU v Florida Nationally televised game. This is being done now to rally the team to win last 2 games. Also, they're supposedly handing down a one year (this yr) post season bowl ban. However, next year is the start of all new stuff. They want to have recruits reconsider OSU.

Just sharing the news.

"It's like dating a woman who hates you so much she will never break up with you, even if you burn down the house every single autumn." ~ Chuck Klosterman on Browns fans relationship with the Browns

Would be nice, but I doubt it. There is a ton of smoke surrounding Meyer to tOSU, but some of the things in that email just don't make sense. I still tend to think Meyer ends up at tOSU (until he says otherwise).

Here are the things that don't make much sense:-Why would tOSU self impose a bowl ban now? They already added on their punishment of 5 additional schollies for the FTM charge due to Bobby D. Makes no sense to just increase their negative news cycle.-Why would they announce during the FL game? Strange timing (with Meyer's past at that school).-Why would he retain Fickell and Vrabel? I am not sure that Fickell would want to stay on and take the demotion. Although with his showing as an HC, it would be smart to stay if he could.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

FWIW there were similar rumors swirling around the Duke game on the 29th, that were put to rest about 2 weeks ago.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

furls wrote:Would be nice, but I doubt it. There is a ton of smoke surrounding Meyer to tOSU, but some of the things in that email just don't make sense. I still tend to think Meyer ends up at tOSU (until he says otherwise).

Here are the things that don't make much sense:-Why would tOSU self impose a bowl ban now? They already added on their punishment of 5 additional schollies for the FTM charge due to Bobby D. Makes no sense to just increase their negative news cycle.-Why would they announce during the FL game? Strange timing (with Meyer's past at that school).-Why would he retain Fickell and Vrabel? I am not sure that Fickell would want to stay on and take the demotion. Although with his showing as an HC, it would be smart to stay if he could.

I said in the game thread that a self imposed bowl ban makes a certain amount of sense. Even more after the loss to Purdue. Lesmerisis(sp?) wrote that if the NCAA comes down with a bowl ban that it will probably be to late for this year. If I'm OSU and I think that's coming, I'd sure as hell want to get it out of the way. If they self impose it, maybe the NCAA says "good enough."

Also, If I'm Fickell, I probably see the writing on the wall. I'd rather stay, because who the hell knows how long Meyer would be here.

Doesn't make sense to me that they announce it during the Florida game, though.

Swerb - the guy you heard this from doesn't work at the same carwash Delonte uses, does he?

furls wrote:Would be nice, but I doubt it. There is a ton of smoke surrounding Meyer to tOSU, but some of the things in that email just don't make sense. I still tend to think Meyer ends up at tOSU (until he says otherwise).

Here are the things that don't make much sense:-Why would tOSU self impose a bowl ban now? They already added on their punishment of 5 additional schollies for the FTM charge due to Bobby D. Makes no sense to just increase their negative news cycle.-Why would they announce during the FL game? Strange timing (with Meyer's past at that school).-Why would he retain Fickell and Vrabel? I am not sure that Fickell would want to stay on and take the demotion. Although with his showing as an HC, it would be smart to stay if he could.

I said in the game thread that a self imposed bowl ban makes a certain amount of sense. Even more after the loss to Purdue. Lesmerisis(sp?) wrote that if the NCAA comes down with a bowl ban that it will probably be to late for this year. If I'm OSU and I think that's coming, I'd sure as hell want to get it out of the way. If they self impose it, maybe the NCAA says "good enough."

Also, If I'm Fickell, I probably see the writing on the wall. I'd rather stay, because who the hell knows how long Meyer would be here.

Doesn't make sense to me that they announce it during the Florida game, though.

Swerb - the guy you heard this from doesn't work at the same carwash Delonte uses, does he?

LOL ... no. Just a guy I do business with that knows a lot of people. Probably nothing. Connected enough where it was worth posting, labeled as a rumor.

"It's like dating a woman who hates you so much she will never break up with you, even if you burn down the house every single autumn." ~ Chuck Klosterman on Browns fans relationship with the Browns

e0y2e3 wrote:mother, that isn't Furls point. His point is that if they were going to do it they would have this week.

Dumbass.

I get that, and I think it's possible that losing to Purdue might make them reconsider not self imposing. And that would explain them waiting a week. Not saying thats what is going to happen. Just throwing it out there now that B1G title game and Rose Bowl are definitely off the table.

furls wrote:Would be nice, but I doubt it. There is a ton of smoke surrounding Meyer to tOSU, but some of the things in that email just don't make sense. I still tend to think Meyer ends up at tOSU (until he says otherwise).

Here are the things that don't make much sense:-Why would tOSU self impose a bowl ban now? They already added on their punishment of 5 additional schollies for the FTM charge due to Bobby D. Makes no sense to just increase their negative news cycle.-Why would they announce during the FL game? Strange timing (with Meyer's past at that school).-Why would he retain Fickell and Vrabel? I am not sure that Fickell would want to stay on and take the demotion. Although with his showing as an HC, it would be smart to stay if he could.

I said in the game thread that a self imposed bowl ban makes a certain amount of sense. Even more after the loss to Purdue. Lesmerisis(sp?) wrote that if the NCAA comes down with a bowl ban that it will probably be to late for this year. If I'm OSU and I think that's coming, I'd sure as hell want to get it out of the way. If they self impose it, maybe the NCAA says "good enough."

Also, If I'm Fickell, I probably see the writing on the wall. I'd rather stay, because who the hell knows how long Meyer would be here.

Doesn't make sense to me that they announce it during the Florida game, though.

Swerb - the guy you heard this from doesn't work at the same carwash Delonte uses, does he?

LOL ... no. Just a guy I do business with that knows a lot of people. Probably nothing. Connected enough where it was worth posting, labeled as a rumor.

There are a ton of rumors re: Meyer circulating right now. While it is hard to know which ones to believe and which ones are third recountings of already public rumors with just enough deviation in detail to make them seem new, the overall trend of the rumors and the volume of rumors is interesting data.

These Meyer to tOSU rumors have legs. There have already been several slip ups by Meyer's friends (and colleagues at E!SPiN). If he does not end up at tOSU I will be very surprised.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

furls wrote:Swerb - the guy you heard this from doesn't work at the same carwash Delonte uses, does he?

Mother,

Delonte doesn't go to the east side wash no more so that proprietary information channel is dead. That said, you head on over there and ask them for the detailing and ground effect package and they'll add some scoops and spoilers to your Honda CRX SUV and make it look like a Porsche Cayenne. They'll even put those blue glow lights underneath and change out the crappy factory horn. Perfect ride for a local dentist trying to change his rep and distance himself from the protesters outside his office.

During the LSU-WVU game this year Musburger and Herbstreit were joking about the Meyer bought a house in Upper Arlington rumors on the air with Urban Meyer. At the end of the conversation, Musburger said to Meyer, "Good luck with your decision." Kind of implies that he had been offered that early.

-Herbstreit (no secret he is friends with Meyer) basically said that he would like to go into coaching if he left E!SPiN and that he has talked to Meyer about being a QB Coach (growing to OC) for him. This implies multiple conversations with Meyer about Meyer's coaching future (duh!), so obviously Meyer is talking about it.

-Spielman (no secret he is a Meyer confidant and friend) has come out and said he believes Urban will be the HC.

-When pressed (and not in crotchety old man mode) Earle Bruce has said basically the same as Spielman (remember they have that coach-protege thing going on).

-Finally, what is probably most telling to me is not what Meyer has said, but what he has not said. Meyer came out and out-right denied any interest in the PSU job when those rumors came up (prior to the sandusky scandal). Now tOSU on the other hand, there is about 100X more rumors. Rumors he could put to bed very quickly, but he has not. All he has to do is say, I am not interested in the coaching position, but he has not.

-Rumors I have heard are that Meyer is going to be signed to a 6ish year deal at 5-6MM per year. With a pile of money dedicated to assistants. One guy went so far to say that the admin/BOT realizes that this is the best way to break their negative news cycle. Definitely should put an end to the E!SPiN vendetta.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

Might be a good thing, I am not sure tOSU could beat Toledo in a rematch.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

I plan my saturdays around tOSU football, as hard as it is. Now I remember what it was like to be a Browns fan.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

Just spoke to a close friend who knows one of the largest donors of Ohio State alumni and the kicker endowment donor. He said according to him and a close ESPN friend, watch for Urban Meyer to be announced as the new OSU coach starting in 2012 (Luke to finish out and be retained on Defense with Mike V) on TUESDAY NIGHT at the OSU v Florida Nationally televised game. This is being done now to rally the team to win last 2 games. Also, they're supposedly handing down a one year (this yr) post season bowl ban. However, next year is the start of all new stuff. They want to have recruits reconsider OSU.

Just sharing the news.

Seems awfully strange to me.

Isn't there an unwritten rule in coaching that you never talk about another mans job when he has a hold of it?

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

peeker643 wrote:I don't see any Meyer quotes anywhere regarding his thoughts on the OSU job. Am I missing them?

There are none that I'm aware of.

As long as he doesn't come out with any disavowals, I'm going to assume the rampant rumors we've been hearing about his active interest have some validity.

Earle Bruce is the key intermediary here. Urban is like a son to Earle, who is clearly still close to the OSU Board and to the football program.

I'm skeptical about the rumor of an announcement tomorrow...for lots of reasons...not least that even if there would be perceived recruiting benefits, it would still be a pretty tacky undermining of Fickell, even if he is to be retained.

Also skeptical about OSU planning to self-impose a postseason ban....because I have reason to believe that they think a ban is not yet a sure thing.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

danwismar wrote:Also skeptical about OSU planning to self-impose a postseason ban....because I have reason to believe that they think a ban is not yet a sure thing.

To clarify, since I'm the one who keeps bringing that up, I haven't heard any rumors about a self imposed bowl ban anywhere. It's just my bright idea.

After everything, and the continual bad news since about this time last year, I just don't see how they avoid a bowl ban. Apparently, though, people who know way more about it than me think it's unlikely.

What do you think, Dan? think a bowl ban is coming? Is it wishful thinking that OSU would avoid it?

furls wrote:During the LSU-WVU game this year Musburger and Herbstreit were joking about the Meyer bought a house in Upper Arlington rumors on the air with Urban Meyer. At the end of the conversation, Musburger said to Meyer, "Good luck with your decision." Kind of implies that he had been offered that early.

-Herbstreit (no secret he is friends with Meyer) basically said that he would like to go into coaching if he left E!SPiN and that he has talked to Meyer about being a QB Coach (growing to OC) for him. This implies multiple conversations with Meyer about Meyer's coaching future (duh!), so obviously Meyer is talking about it.

-Spielman (no secret he is a Meyer confidant and friend) has come out and said he believes Urban will be the HC.

-When pressed (and not in crotchety old man mode) Earle Bruce has said basically the same as Spielman (remember they have that coach-protege thing going on).

-Finally, what is probably most telling to me is not what Meyer has said, but what he has not said. Meyer came out and out-right denied any interest in the PSU job when those rumors came up (prior to the sandusky scandal). Now tOSU on the other hand, there is about 100X more rumors. Rumors he could put to bed very quickly, but he has not. All he has to do is say, I am not interested in the coaching position, but he has not.

-Rumors I have heard are that Meyer is going to be signed to a 6ish year deal at 5-6MM per year. With a pile of money dedicated to assistants. One guy went so far to say that the admin/BOT realizes that this is the best way to break their negative news cycle. Definitely should put an end to the E!SPiN vendetta.

Oh wow.... you're like the internet version of Sherlock Holmes.... just without the addiction to cocaine and creepy sidekick.

I am all in on Urban. I think we stop at nothing to get him and I hope all of these rumors eventually come true.

That being said, do we have a plan B? Has another name come up? Chris Peterson, Furls, CDT? I have debated with friends that the worse thing that could happen is that we win out following the Nebraska game, fueling the "Let's grow with Fickell" camp. The guys on Buckeye Blitz are ready to give him a three year contract. And while I may have channeled my inner Browns fan this Saturday, I am not all that upset that we lost. How we lost, but not the fact that we lost. Just wondering what other names are out there, if at all because it seems like it's Urban or keep Fickell right now.

furls wrote:During the LSU-WVU game this year Musburger and Herbstreit were joking about the Meyer bought a house in Upper Arlington rumors on the air with Urban Meyer. At the end of the conversation, Musburger said to Meyer, "Good luck with your decision." Kind of implies that he had been offered that early.

-Herbstreit (no secret he is friends with Meyer) basically said that he would like to go into coaching if he left E!SPiN and that he has talked to Meyer about being a QB Coach (growing to OC) for him. This implies multiple conversations with Meyer about Meyer's coaching future (duh!), so obviously Meyer is talking about it.

-Spielman (no secret he is a Meyer confidant and friend) has come out and said he believes Urban will be the HC.

-When pressed (and not in crotchety old man mode) Earle Bruce has said basically the same as Spielman (remember they have that coach-protege thing going on).

-Finally, what is probably most telling to me is not what Meyer has said, but what he has not said. Meyer came out and out-right denied any interest in the PSU job when those rumors came up (prior to the sandusky scandal). Now tOSU on the other hand, there is about 100X more rumors. Rumors he could put to bed very quickly, but he has not. All he has to do is say, I am not interested in the coaching position, but he has not.

-Rumors I have heard are that Meyer is going to be signed to a 6ish year deal at 5-6MM per year. With a pile of money dedicated to assistants. One guy went so far to say that the admin/BOT realizes that this is the best way to break their negative news cycle. Definitely should put an end to the E!SPiN vendetta.

Oh wow.... you're like the internet version of Sherlock Holmes.... just without the addiction to cocaine and creepy sidekick.

My sidekick was an assistant at PSU and drives a van with no windows.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

Squints wrote:I am all in on Urban. I think we stop at nothing to get him and I hope all of these rumors eventually come true.

That being said, do we have a plan B? Has another name come up? Chris Peterson, Furls, CDT? I have debated with friends that the worse thing that could happen is that we win out following the Nebraska game, fueling the "Let's grow with Fickell" camp. The guys on Buckeye Blitz are ready to give him a three year contract. And while I may have channeled my inner Browns fan this Saturday, I am not all that upset that we lost. How we lost, but not the fact that we lost. Just wondering what other names are out there, if at all because it seems like it's Urban or keep Fickell right now.

-No way on Peterson, I don't think you could get him out of Boise if you backed the Brinks truck up to his house.-There are some names out there.... Pelini, Dantonio, Stoops (doubt he would leave), Gruden (no way he gets an offer), and then of course there are the budget choices (MAC-types).-In the end, I think it is Meyer, but if he doesn't come, then it is Pelini. I am not that excited about Pelini, but they could do worse. I just hope whoever it is, they get a real OC. I am sick of watching a team with a ton of talent squeak by against crappy Ohio University teams.

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

motherscratcher wrote:What do you think, Dan? think a bowl ban is coming? Is it wishful thinking that OSU would avoid it?

I think yes...and yes.

Way back in June...speculating on the weight of the Hammer, I wrote:

Best guess. Multiple years of probation. (they can do that standing on their heads...the NCAA has been sitting in their living room for three months now). Vacate 2010 wins and Big Ten title. One year bowl ban. No scholarship losses.

Five months and a lot of water under the bridge since, that's still what I expect....(obviously they self-imposed a few scholarship losses a couple weeks ago)The postseason ban became much more likely with the DiGeronimo stuff...because he was a booster, even though Tressel had tried repeatedly....and mostly successfully...to drum him out of the program. He just couldn't keep him from contacting players directly.

But there are media people close to Gene Smith who think it won't happen, so maybe they know something...?

They don't want to lose the extra 3-5 weeks of practice that bowl participation allows...that's a way bigger factor than the Poulan Weedeater Bowl payout.

"I believe it is the nature of the human species to reject what is true but unpleasant and to embrace what is obviously false but comforting." H.L. Mencken

OSU should decline any bowl they're invited to this year, even if they're not hit with the ban. I know it sucks for the seniors, but we do not deserve to go to a bowl. Not after what happened and not after how bad this team has played.

As for Meyer, i've yet to read any credible report that he's coming to OSU.... or that he's even talked to OSU in any capacity.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:OSU should decline any bowl they're invited to this year, even if they're not hit with the ban. I know it sucks for the seniors, but we do not deserve to go to a bowl. Not after what happened and not after how bad this team has played.

As for Meyer, i've yet to read any credible report that he's coming to OSU.... or that he's even talked to OSU in any capacity.

I agree with point one. They should sit out the bowl this year on their own. They should have self imposed it the second the FTM hit the streets just to make sure that they get it all taken care of this year. With the impending delay in the NCAA hearing, the final outcome will be too late for a ban this year. So assuming they get a good coach this year and improve, then that ban could really hurt with what should be a good team next year.

As for Meyer, there is nothing in public. Lots of rumors of backroom dealings. I wouldn't expect anything public and LF did not make himself impossible to retain until last week (although I was done after the MSU debacle).

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:As for Meyer, i've yet to read any credible report that he's coming to OSU.... or that he's even talked to OSU in any capacity.

Guy I know sorta well never met him PM'd me on the internets and says his wife is friends with Tennesee Herbie's wife and says Herbie told him Meyer's family loves C-Bus can't wait to move here and it is a done deal. Urban meyer will be at tOSU this spring and he the fam hated State College even before all the nausea.

swerb wrote:I'm a little disappointed there's not one of those websites up yet that is tracking Meyer's every move via sattelite cameras.

I wanna know where the guy is at 10:40 AM on a Tuesday god dammit. I'm looking for any hints or clues.

The guy is almost guaranteed to win the national title in CBus if he comes here, providing he doesn't die cause of over-recruiting and excessive celebrating.

Big difference between that and "I hope Bo Pelini keeps us relevant."

Fucking nailed it. UM to tOSU is rapidly becoming one of the worst kept secrets in sports.

Man wouldn't it be nice to have a coach that is not afraid to drop half a hundo on anyone dumb enough to set foot in Ohio Stadium?

There are a lot of advantages for tOSU. Being in the midwest is a GIGANTIC advantage. It is the program in the Midwest (not one of the best programs, but the PROGRAM in the midwest with Meyer). He would land any kid that he wanted that is not afraid of the depth chart.

Tressel, as boring and unhip as he was, was already cherry picking the very best in PA, Indiana, Michigan and Illinois (to a lesser extent). Give Meyer a year in Ohio and he will dominate midwest recruiting.

FYI, bucknuts basically reported today that Adolphus Washington is verballing to tOSU (his dad said, "he just really wants to be a Buckeye.") That concludes the most impressive season I can remember for an Ohio DL man. 23.5 sacks, 90 tackles and a couple of TDs (one on an INT the other as a punt returner).

Coming from a Wolverine, we're the football equivalent of a formerly abused wife of a meth addict who just remarried the safe nice guy. We're just glad we have someone who's aware that it's a rivalry and that tackling on defense is integral. Baby steps.

if it was, someone would have already leaked it to a local news affiliate or would have seen the dude walking thru the airport.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

Urban Meyer met with Arizona’s athletic director, Greg Byrne, in Miami early last week to discuss the Wildcats’ job, according to a person with knowledge of the meeting, but ultimately decided he was not interested. The person said that Meyer, who has expressed his desire to return to coaching, was intrigued but informed Byrne in a telephone call Monday night that he was not going to pursue the job.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

furls wrote:-No way on Peterson, I don't think you could get him out of Boise if you backed the Brinks truck up to his house.-There are some names out there.... Pelini, Dantonio, Stoops (doubt he would leave), Gruden (no way he gets an offer), and then of course there are the budget choices (MAC-types).-In the end, I think it is Meyer, but if he doesn't come, then it is Pelini. I am not that excited about Pelini, but they could do worse. I just hope whoever it is, they get a real OC. I am sick of watching a team with a ton of talent squeak by against crappy Ohio University teams.

Thanks for this info. I'm not a fan of either Stoops or Pelini but Dantonio is intrigiung. In reading other posts, I was unaware of the close relationship between Urban and Bruce. Was Urbs on his staff while he was HC?

furls wrote:Tressel, as boring and unhip as he was, was already cherry picking the very best in PA, Indiana, Michigan and Illinois (to a lesser extent).

Not to be argumentative, and this is not personal. It is merely reflective of reading concenses. But for a couple years I've read this n that about how awesome these OSU recruits were supposed to be when they were comitted. Frankly they kinda suck to me.

Sabino, Sweat, Kline, Berry, I could give 'em all a big fat "meh". Don't even start me on the OL. The RB's, the WR's, they all suck. Boom herron is the nbest they got, and he's a better version of "meh". Shazier impresses me as a young player, and Simon is the only legit baller on D that I see, but I digress. Purdue kicked their collective overrated 4 star asses in a game that had no business being close.

Is that all on Fickel? Is he Faust? I think not. Teddy the Wonderlizzard could coach a great collection of college talent and they don't lose 5 games against a mediocre BCS schedule.

So I now call BS on the Buckeye recruiting efforts over the past several years other than Peezy.