Season 8: News, Spoilers And Leaks

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"We already know that there is going to be a lot of action happening in Winterfell in season 8, which includes a siege and it will end with Winterfell being burned down.

One of our sources have informed us that a scene was filmed at the Winterfell and it involved the Hound and the Unsullied and they were fighting against each other. According to the source, the Unsullied surround the Hound and they fight against each other."[Source]

I don't trust this website, so take it with a grain of salt but I'm posting it anyway. Unsullied Wights?

Yeah, Wiki of Thrones doesn't really have track record for having accurate sources but if true, then yeah, maybe Unsullied Wights. I do wonder how effective dragonglass is against human foes though, as it was reported by WOTW that the Unsullied will be equipped with dragonglass-tipped spears.

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The Unsullied have been filming in Toome, near the Winterfell set, for the last few weeks, sources tell us. Though it wasn’t a battle, we know they are getting ready to combat the White Walkers, as every Unsullied wielded a new dragonglass-tipped spear.

Which may point to an endgame battle between Cersei and Jon/Dany (assuming those have both survived the NK)? It seems unlikely the NK would go for a protracted siege in a place like KL, which isn't as strong as most castles and can be taken by storm.

A lot depends on what is happening in that Jon/Cersei scene (assuming it isn't a fake). Is he a prisoner? Is he offering his help against an imminent WW attack on KL? Is he giving her one last chance to surrender before Dany and her dragons level the city?

If the two big set pieces in S8 that we know about--battle of Winterfell, siege of KL--are human vs. human, that begs the question of how they're going to deal with the NK threat. Even with a lavish $90 million budget or whatever it is, they can't afford to have three huge battles in one season. So if the two big set pieces don't involve the WWs and involve human conflicts, how will the WWs be defeated?

41 minutes ago, TRILOGY said:

"We already know that there is going to be a lot of action happening in Winterfell in season 8, which includes a siege and it will end with Winterfell being burned down.

One of our sources have informed us that a scene was filmed at the Winterfell and it involved the Hound and the Unsullied and they were fighting against each other. According to the source, the Unsullied surround the Hound and they fight against each other."[Source]

I don't trust this website, so take it with a grain of salt but I'm posting it anyway. Unsullied Wights?

That site is full of it. They once claimed that one of their sources had informed them that Sansa would die bearing Ramsay's child in S7.

With that said, Rory McCann was seen in Belfast around the same time they were shooting the Winterfell battle, so it's quite likely that the Hound is involved in the battle somehow.

There are also scenarios where the Hound is fighting with Unsullied for other reasons, like maybe he talks smack about the Unsullied's abilities and they spar with him to prove him wrong.

Edited February 9 by Newstar

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A lot depends on what is happening in that Jon/Cersei scene (assuming it isn't a fake). Is he a prisoner? Is he offering his help against an imminent WW attack on KL? Is he giving her one last chance to surrender before Dany and her dragons level the city?

If the two big set pieces in S8 that we know about--battle of Winterfell, siege of KL--are human vs. human, that begs the question of how they're going to deal with the NK threat. Even with a lavish $90 million budget or whatever it is, they can't afford to have three huge battles in one season. So if the two big set pieces don't involve the WWs and involve human conflicts, how will the WWs be defeated?

We still don't know for sure the battle of Winterfell is between human forces. Those pictures and video weren't that definite.

Either there are at least three big battles (NK vs human army, KL and Winterfell between humans) or the NK has to be the attacker either in Winterfell or in KL. Or there is no big battle in KL at all (being burned by dragonfire may not count as a big battle in this sense, allthough it would mean CGI budget instead), which would leave room for 2 major battles (Winterfell and one elsewhere).

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We still don't know for sure the battle of Winterfell is between human forces. Those pictures and video weren't that definite.

Either there are at least three big battles (NK vs human army, KL and Winterfell between humans) or the NK has to be the attacker either in Winterfell or in KL. Or there is no big battle in KL at all (being burned by dragonfire may not count as a big battle in this sense, allthough it would mean CGI budget instead), which would leave room for 2 major battles (Winterfell and one elsewhere).

1.It's that video which seems to be of the attackers yelling that's leading people to think that the attackers are human and not wights.

2. I agree re: the battles, although they're not going to construct such an elaborate set unless a lot of human action will be involved. Otherwise, they could just CGI the destruction (think the exterior of the sept explosion sequence).

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Which may point to an endgame battle between Cersei and Jon/Dany (assuming those have both survived the NK)? It seems unlikely the NK would go for a protracted siege in a place like KL, which isn't as strong as most castles and can be taken by storm.

Nah. They're guessing it's a siege because there's a hole in the wall when the NK could make holes in the Wall with a dragon too.

If it's Jon/ Daenerys doing it though then one of them is going to end up burning a million people.

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No longclaw or armor, but I don't think he's a prisoner, he's wearing his cape.

“We had a lot of discussions about, does the cape give him presence, or is it better to not have that presence? What are we trying to say?” Clapton told Uproxx.“There are times when we removed it because we wanted him to be more vulnerable. [...] When he went to see Cersei,” Clapton says, ”We put it on.”

Based on this, he isn't in a vulnerable position, and Cersei isn't wearing her crown, so I think they're on equal grounds.

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Nah. They're guessing it's a siege because there's a hole in the wall when the NK could make holes in the Wall with a dragon too.

If it's Jon/ Daenerys doing it though then one of them is going to end up burning a million people.

If the KL set is for a simple roasting with dragonfire, they don't need a physical set for that: they can CGI it as they did with the street scenes for the wildfire explosion. There's going to be a lot of action with extras on that set, or else they wouldn't bother building it.

The production designer spoke about Miguel Sapochnik filming big things in March. I'm guessing the KL set is for that.

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We need spoilers, I can't believe I'm analyzing costumes.

The next batch of real spoilers will probably come out of the KL set filming in March. I don't expect much for the next little while (although I'd love to be proven wrong).

ETA: Maisie Williams was spotted today in Belfast. Rory McCann was apparently seen at the Belfast airport this morning (although it's not known whether he was flying in or out of town). Hound/Arya scenes incoming?

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I think the main big battle against the Night's King will happen in King's Landing and not Winterfell. No way Dany would ever burn KL with dragonfire. I think the hole in the wall that L7R is talking about is the NK's doing. The WW's have been shown to do seige warfare tactics before.

I also totally agree with @Newstar that Cersei's dress is more McQueen than Versace.

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If the KL set is for a simple roasting with dragonfire, they don't need a physical set for that: they can CGI it as they did with the street scenes for the wildfire explosion. There's going to be a lot of action with extras on that set, or else they wouldn't bother building it.

The production designer spoke about Miguel Sapochnik filming big things in March. I'm guessing the KL set is for that.

The next batch of real spoilers will probably come out of the KL set filming in March. I don't expect much for the next little while (although I'd love to be proven wrong).

ETA: Maisie Williams was spotted today in Belfast. Rory McCann was apparently seen at the Belfast airport this morning (although it's not known whether he was flying in or out of town). Hound/Arya scenes incoming?

I was never refuting that there wasn't going to be action at KL besides a dragon burning.

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Two crew members have talked about three months' worth of night shoots: a makeup artist and an assistant director. The assistant director posted on Instagram last week about it being "week 3 of 11." Tacking on eight weeks to that takes us to the beginning of April.

We know that Miguel Sapochnik's "big things" will be filmed in March and likely involve the big KL set which is still being built.

My guess is that the night shoots involve both the Winterfell battle and the final confrontation in KL.

Maisie Williams did an interview with People recently where she mentioned that the day before the interview she had been doing combat training.

Going by the fact that the Winterfell battle stuff has been shot at the Moneyglass exterior set over the past month and a half, we can piece together who is and who isn't involved based on who's been spotted in Belfast around that time.

Kit, Maisie, NCW, Gwendoline Christie, Joe Dempsie, Rory McCann, and Kristofer Hivju have all been spotted in Belfast at various points over the past six weeks. NCW and Gwendoline were filming together for a week in January. So it stands to reason that Jon, Arya, Jaime, Brienne, Gendry, the Hound, and Tormund are all involved in the fighting at Winterfell. (One can probably safely assume Jorah and Pod are also in the mix, even if I don't believe their actors have been seen in Belfast over the past six weeks.)

Of course, that assumes that they haven't been filming other scenes while the Winterfell battle shoots are ongoing.

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Two crew members have talked about three months' worth of night shoots: a makeup artist and an assistant director. The assistant director posted on Instagram last week about it being "week 3 of 11." Tacking on eight weeks to that takes us to the beginning of April.

We know that Miguel Sapochnik's "big things" will be filmed in March and likely involve the big KL set which is still being built.

My guess is that the night shoots involve both the Winterfell battle and the final confrontation in KL.

Maisie Williams did an interview with People recently where she mentioned that the day before the interview she had been doing combat training.

Going by the fact that the Winterfell battle stuff has been shot at the Moneyglass exterior set over the past month and a half, we can piece together who is and who isn't involved based on who's been spotted in Belfast around that time.

Kit, Maisie, NCW, Gwendoline Christie, Joe Dempsie, Rory McCann, and Kristofer Hivju have all been spotted in Belfast at various points over the past six weeks. NCW and Gwendoline were filming together for a week in January. So it stands to reason that Jon, Arya, Jaime, Brienne, Gendry, the Hound, and Tormund are all involved in the fighting at Winterfell. (One can probably safely assume Jorah and Pod are also in the mix, even if I don't believe their actors have been seen in Belfast over the past six weeks.)

Of course, that assumes that they haven't been filming other scenes while the Winterfell battle shoots are ongoing.

Really interesting idea that the night shoots include both Winterfell and KL. Can't believe no one else thought of that.

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Two crew members have talked about three months' worth of night shoots: a makeup artist and an assistant director. The assistant director posted on Instagram last week about it being "week 3 of 11." Tacking on eight weeks to that takes us to the beginning of April.

We know that Miguel Sapochnik's "big things" will be filmed in March and likely involve the big KL set which is still being built.

My guess is that the night shoots involve both the Winterfell battle and the final confrontation in KL.

Maisie Williams did an interview with People recently where she mentioned that the day before the interview she had been doing combat training.

Going by the fact that the Winterfell battle stuff has been shot at the Moneyglass exterior set over the past month and a half, we can piece together who is and who isn't involved based on who's been spotted in Belfast around that time.

Kit, Maisie, NCW, Gwendoline Christie, Joe Dempsie, Rory McCann, and Kristofer Hivju have all been spotted in Belfast at various points over the past six weeks. NCW and Gwendoline were filming together for a week in January. So it stands to reason that Jon, Arya, Jaime, Brienne, Gendry, the Hound, and Tormund are all involved in the fighting at Winterfell. (One can probably safely assume Jorah and Pod are also in the mix, even if I don't believe their actors have been seen in Belfast over the past six weeks.)

Of course, that assumes that they haven't been filming other scenes while the Winterfell battle shoots are ongoing.

Good observation, I agree with this.

Nathalie Emmanuel's absence is interesting, I don’t think we will see much of her in S8. (In general, not battles)

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"Also seen next door today, hundreds of extras streaming out from filming GOT at the Titanic Studios."