I don't understand creationism - Think Atheist2015-08-02T23:27:10Zhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/forum/topics/i-don-t-understand-creationism?commentId=1982180%3AComment%3A1219857&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAs evidenced by "Haggis," it…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-12-02:1982180:Comment:12204182012-12-02T03:45:45.744Zarchaeopteryxhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/xn/detail/u_2gskiyna07rt3
<p>As evidenced by "Haggis," it could be Scottish and STILL be crap!</p>
<p>As evidenced by "Haggis," it could be Scottish and STILL be crap!</p> "If it be nay Scottish, it be…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-12-02:1982180:Comment:12202212012-12-02T03:14:07.693ZUnseenhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/Unseen
<p>"If it be nay Scottish, it be CRAP!"</p>
<p>"If it be nay Scottish, it be CRAP!"</p> Yum!tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-12-01:1982180:Comment:12203062012-12-01T23:48:50.128Zarchaeopteryxhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/xn/detail/u_2gskiyna07rt3
<p>Yum!</p>
<p>Yum!</p> If god created haggis-in-a-c…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-12-01:1982180:Comment:12203012012-12-01T21:11:55.960Z_Robert_http://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/RobertCampbell
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<p>If god created haggis-in-a-can he must be Scottish</p>
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<p>If god created haggis-in-a-can he must be Scottish</p>
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<p></p> @Dale - Fergus, much like Ang…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-12-01:1982180:Comment:12201482012-12-01T20:20:30.689Zarchaeopteryxhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/xn/detail/u_2gskiyna07rt3
<p>@Dale - Fergus, much like Angus and Haggis, are fine old Scottish words, Laddie --</p>
<p>@Dale - Fergus, much like Angus and Haggis, are fine old Scottish words, Laddie --</p> As to your final question, it…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-12-01:1982180:Comment:12203912012-12-01T19:32:44.459ZDale Headleyhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/DaleHeadley
As to your final question, it ISN'T f&amp;%#ing possible. It isn't possible simply because it violates all known natural laws. But the more profound question is how sad it is that you are unprepared to deal with these deluded ignoramuses.<br />
As with most Americans (though your name - Ferguson, right? - suggests you are British), the reason you find it difficult to argue with creationists is likely that you were not provided with a thorough enough understanding of the Theory of Evolution. Few…
As to your final question, it ISN'T f&amp;%#ing possible. It isn't possible simply because it violates all known natural laws. But the more profound question is how sad it is that you are unprepared to deal with these deluded ignoramuses.<br />
As with most Americans (though your name - Ferguson, right? - suggests you are British), the reason you find it difficult to argue with creationists is likely that you were not provided with a thorough enough understanding of the Theory of Evolution. Few American teachers, even science teachers, have more than the most rudimentary understanding of the Theory of Evolution. Consequently, if you were taught evolution at all (which is unlikely), it was probably in a very cursory and superficial manner, whether in an American school or any of the many religiously affiliated British elementary schools.<br />
If you truly understood the details of the theory, you could easily counter, as I delight in doing, any creationist nonsense with clear, concise, common sense, scientific arguments.<br />
So my advice to you is to read some books by people who DO explain it clearly, like Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Carl Sagan, Michael Schermer, Stephen Jay Gould, and countless other authors who are truly knowledgeable on the subject.<br />
Or, if you don’t want to spend the time and money, you can reply to this post with any specific questions about any aspect of evolution and I will be happy to answer them for you.<br />
If, on the other hand, you choose NOT to deeply immerse yourself in the details of the Theory of Evolution, you shouldn’t bother arguing with creationsts at all, because you can be sure they know the all of the talking points of THEIR delusion. "I know that there are people…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-12-01:1982180:Comment:12198832012-12-01T18:27:37.652ZRon Vhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/RV
<p>"I know that there are people who have earned their doctorates in biology who certainly know a lot more about the subject than I do and yet see evolution as a major problem to be corrected"</p>
<p>Myth - as someone with a science background and someone working with high complexity instruments in a scientific field, there are not many people I know with advanced degrees who do not understand, accept, and/or use evolution in science. Even "Christians" I know have positions reminiscent of…</p>
<p>"I know that there are people who have earned their doctorates in biology who certainly know a lot more about the subject than I do and yet see evolution as a major problem to be corrected"</p>
<p>Myth - as someone with a science background and someone working with high complexity instruments in a scientific field, there are not many people I know with advanced degrees who do not understand, accept, and/or use evolution in science. Even "Christians" I know have positions reminiscent of deists.</p>
<p>Creationism invokes the question - what created any proposed "creator?"</p> And I seriously hope you don'…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-12-01:1982180:Comment:12201292012-12-01T17:10:12.579Zarchaeopteryxhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/xn/detail/u_2gskiyna07rt3
<p>And I seriously hope you don't use Answers in Genesis for anything other than comic relief. This is the Internet - it's loaded with factual information, by experts, regarding Evolution, the origin of the Universe, and anything else you'd like to know, you just have to do a little digging.</p>
<p>And I seriously hope you don't use Answers in Genesis for anything other than comic relief. This is the Internet - it's loaded with factual information, by experts, regarding Evolution, the origin of the Universe, and anything else you'd like to know, you just have to do a little digging.</p> Sorry for the late response--…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-12-01:1982180:Comment:12198732012-12-01T16:06:30.398ZNiallhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/profile/NiallRobb
Sorry for the late response-- more specifically I recently learned that my 13 yr old nephew is a young earth creationist- his mother (whom I only met once briefly) takes him to a lot of church and fills his head with nonsense. I read the Answers in Genesis which mostly asks "how do scientist really know how far away stars are? How do they really know that their dating technology works? etc" and then they do not encourage you to find the answers. I was really hoping that was not the best…
Sorry for the late response-- more specifically I recently learned that my 13 yr old nephew is a young earth creationist- his mother (whom I only met once briefly) takes him to a lot of church and fills his head with nonsense. I read the Answers in Genesis which mostly asks "how do scientist really know how far away stars are? How do they really know that their dating technology works? etc" and then they do not encourage you to find the answers. I was really hoping that was not the best resource. I do know that there are real biologist who believe in creationism- I know also that the way they explain it is wildly different from one crowd to another, just like an apologist would never tell a professional debater that the bible has no consistency problems but has no qualms telling his congregation such a thing. I understand Evolution, natural selection, Dating, the epic of Gilgamesh, the many many problems with the Noah story but I have not heard the opposing side-(I don't think I have)- I don't think the entire argument is based on faith- the creationist scientists typically say that evolution and modern dating methods are unlikely to be correct based on some research that they never cite- and I bet it exists in some form. Whether or not is good research is a separate matter. But I hope I can find some of that research or some of those reasons. I seriously hope Answers in Genesis is not the official position First of all, Sepia, that's a…tag:www.thinkatheist.com,2012-12-01:1982180:Comment:12198572012-12-01T08:35:20.134Zarchaeopteryxhttp://www.thinkatheist.com/xn/detail/u_2gskiyna07rt3
<p>First of all, Sepia, that's an interesting user name, and not a forgettable one.</p>
<p>Secondly, RE: "Sorry if I offended anyone" - do you know where you are? Who did you expect to offend with that statement? I'm thinking, no one --</p>
<p>First of all, Sepia, that's an interesting user name, and not a forgettable one.</p>
<p>Secondly, RE: "Sorry if I offended anyone" - do you know where you are? Who did you expect to offend with that statement? I'm thinking, no one --</p>