Stanford peeps, isn't it generally regarded that she and Tara are partners/spouses? I think (if that's the case) it's a tiny bit sad that it can't be mentioned in a news article of such import. After all, not a lot of spouses could work so well together for all those years.

Been with Tara in a basketball relationship since 1980. Must be nice to live in the Golden State and retire at 56.

So who replaces her? A Stanford alum?

Nicole Powell - just took head coaching job at Grand Canyon U
Candice Wiggins - doubtful,I think; no coaching experience
Ros Gold-O - I think she's cast her lot in broadcasting
Susan King - she's a strength and conditioning coach; don't know about transitioning to an assistant
Jen Azzi - maybe, but I think she's wanting a less demanding job what with the new baby

A possibility: Lindy LaRocque. She's currently an assistant at Belmont.

Several articles have mentioned that this will give Amy the opportunity to travel more, and one specifically mentioned traveling back to Ohio more often. Makes me wonder if there is a family reason partly driving this, like being more available to aging parents or something. Or she could just be tired of the grind.

So does this mean Kate Paye moves into Tucker's old job. What will the new assistant do? Recruiting is not the same at Stanford as it would be at Cal or LBSU. If everyone gets moved up and it's the lowest assistant, even though it's Stanford, is it really that desirable for someone already with that kind of a position.

And I think it's a bit depressing that we still have to refer to partners as "roommates". Didn't it used to be "long term companion?" This Washington Post article is almost 15 years old, but it still cuts deeply and informs this thread a bit. TVD is extensively featured in this article on negative recruiting.

So does this mean Kate Paye moves into Tucker's old job. What will the new assistant do? Recruiting is not the same at Stanford as it would be at Cal or LBSU. If everyone gets moved up and it's the lowest assistant, even though it's Stanford, is it really that desirable for someone already with that kind of a position.

And I think it's a bit depressing that we still have to refer to partners as "roommates". Didn't it used to be "long term companion?" This Washington Post article is almost 15 years old, but it still cuts deeply and informs this thread a bit. TVD is extensively featured in this article on negative recruiting.

Again, some making assumptions based on what. I don't think either of them would have a problem saying who they have in their lives that are their significant others. Nobody knows what, when etcs, so why are some making assumptions. And NO anyone can have a roommate, cheaper living conditions for example and not be in a relationship. The fact that some think they know their personal details is whack.

Again, some making assumptions based on what. I don't think either of them would have a problem saying who they have in their lives that are their significant others. Nobody knows what, when etcs, so why are some making assumptions. And NO anyone can have a roommate, cheaper living conditions for example and not be in a relationship. The fact that some think they know their personal details is whack.

If someone wants to 'come out' they will. If they don't, that's their business. And really it's nobody else's bizness what someone else does behind closed doors.

It will be interesting to see what happens with the program...and how long Tara will keep at it. If this was an easing out or simply a need for Amy to have a change. Tara may want to have another assistant set up before she retires. There were rumors this year (about retirement), and I guess when you get to a certain age, there will continue to be rumors. I'm hoping for several more years, but as we all know, change is inevitable.

_________________“Try to be a rainbow in someone's cloud.”
― Maya Angelou

Roommates are what you have in college and first getting out of school when finances might be tight...
Older women who make VERY good money like Tara and Tucker are not simply roommates!

Precisely....and yet, the stupidity of reverse bias persists, even HERE

LitePal wrote:

And I think it's a bit depressing that we still have to refer to partners as "roommates". Didn't it used to be "long term companion?" This Washington Post article is almost 15 years old, but it still cuts deeply and informs this thread a bit. TVD is extensively featured in this article on negative recruiting.

My point exactly.

Nixtreefan wrote:

And NO anyone can have a roommate, cheaper living conditions for example and not be in a relationship.

(especially when they're millionaires, mmHmm.

Nixtreefan wrote:

The fact that some think they know their personal details is whack.

The only thing here that is *whack* are your ridiculous notions, Nixy.

myrtle wrote:

If someone wants to 'come out' they will. If they don't, that's their business. And really it's nobody else's bizness what someone else does behind closed doors.

Despite your well-intended laissez faire attitude, Myrtle, it not about 'coming out': there's none of that needed. It's about honoring what IS.

summertime blues wrote:

Does it really matter, after all? These people are grownups, FFS. Leave them alone and stop speculating. They are what they are and it's their business.

This is not "speculating". It's simple fact. And nobody's criticizing what they "are".

Look at it this way: Jen Rizotti and her husband, Bill Sullivan coach together at George Washington. Relatively new there, but....what if, 30 years down they road, they're STILL coaching together, and are hugely successful, with NCs to their credit, etc., etc.....and Bill 'retires'. Ya think the media wouldn't casually mention their husband/wife dynamic? That's not only a rarity, it's a special thing.

And maybe the Ol' Girls simply remain phobic about ANY association with the *L* word, but anymore? Fuck that. Represent, Ladies. Represent with pride.

The article mentioned that Amy Tucker was essential to Stanford's recruiting, which plays a huge part of their success. Finding another coach with that kind of specialized skill is not easy to find.

With that in mind, it would be helpful to get an alum, but who? Jen Azzi said that she no longer wants to coach in college. Ros Gold-Onwude is settled on broadcasting. Nicole Powell was just hired for her first head coaching somewhere else. Goodenbour is doing well at USF. Vanessa Nygaard is an interesting possibility, and her high school team that she has coached (Windward in LA) just won a state championship.

My hunch says Nygaard. Or they could shift the recruiting tasks to Kate Paye.

Stanford peeps, isn't it generally regarded that she and Tara are partners/spouses? I think (if that's the case) it's a tiny bit sad that it can't be mentioned in a news article of such import. After all, not a lot of spouses could work so well together for all those years.

Stanford. Bay Area. California. Seems like a location where coming out would have positive, not negative consequences. But then again, the players (and their parents) coming to Stanford are from other parts of the country.

Amy and Tara left Ohio State when Andy Geiger hired them. One of the benefits was the lifestyle on the west coast. My guess is that they don't "need "to make an announcement.

Right. No 'announcements' needed. But no need to hide something so special, either. None of it's mishandled or "bad", just....could be better in modeling for the next generation, imo.

"I don't care who you sleep with as long as it's not me" is my motto in life. If more people felt this way, there would be less problems.

I far prefer the quote attributed to a Mrs. Patrick Sullivan in the early part of the last century, "I don't care who does what with whom, as long as they don't do it in the street and frighten the horses!"

_________________Don't take life so serious. It ain't nohows permanent.
It takes 3 years to build a team and 7 to build a program.--Conventional Wisdom

It could be that Tucker's retirement allowed Kate Paye to get more money/status and thus keep Paye from taking the USC job.

Or not.

I was thinking something like that. According to the article they both were associate coaches (Stanford has already changed their roster page so I can't verify that now), in the case of Paye she is "The Harry K. and Ida S. Berland Associate Head Women's Basketball Coach". So removing Tucker could be a way to assure her that she is the associate coach that will get VanderVeer's position as "The Setsuko Ishiyama Director of Women's Basketball " when she retires.

Not a fan of rich people giving part of their fortune to pay the salary of college coaches and assistant coaches.

It could be that Tucker's retirement allowed Kate Paye to get more money/status and thus keep Paye from taking the USC job.

Or not.

I was thinking something like that. According to the article they both were associate coaches (Stanford has already changed their roster page so I can't verify that now), in the case of Paye she is "The Harry K. and Ida S. Berland Associate Head Women's Basketball Coach". So removing Tucker could be a way to assure her that she is the associate coach that will get VanderVeer's position as "The Setsuko Ishiyama Director of Women's Basketball " when she retires.

Not a fan of rich people giving part of their fortune to pay the salary of college coaches and assistant coaches.

It's actually endowing a position. Many if not most schools do this when they can as it takes pressure of athletic department budgets. I don't see anything wrong with it. At my alma mater (not Cal) they are trying to get the women's head coaching position endowed by pooling donations from a number of donors. Obviously the people who can afford to endow the position have money to donate, but I see it as a positive for the health of the women's program. The women's lacrosse position was recently endowed by a group led by former athletes. Obviously at Stanford, it appears individual donors made the basketball position endowments possible, but this type of funding is quite common for positions and scholarships (and professorships).

It could be that Tucker's retirement allowed Kate Paye to get more money/status and thus keep Paye from taking the USC job.

Or not.

I was thinking something like that. According to the article they both were associate coaches (Stanford has already changed their roster page so I can't verify that now), in the case of Paye she is "The Harry K. and Ida S. Berland Associate Head Women's Basketball Coach". So removing Tucker could be a way to assure her that she is the associate coach that will get VanderVeer's position as "The Setsuko Ishiyama Director of Women's Basketball " when she retires.

Not a fan of rich people giving part of their fortune to pay the salary of college coaches and assistant coaches.

It's actually endowing a position. Many if not most schools do this when they can as it takes pressure of athletic department budgets. I don't see anything wrong with it. At my alma mater (not Cal) they are trying to get the women's head coaching position endowed by pooling donations from a number of donors. Obviously the people who can afford to endow the position have money to donate, but I see it as a positive for the health of the women's program. The women's lacrosse position was recently endowed by a group led by former athletes. Obviously at Stanford, it appears individual donors made the basketball position endowments possible, but this type of funding is quite common for positions and scholarships (and professorships).

I'd much rather see those donations go to a professorship, but I am weird and think the main purpose of a university is education and research.

It's funny that no one recognizes Tempie Brown in this discussion. Why would the new hire be only a Stanford alum? Tempie isn't. She played at Michigan and spent the majority of her coaching career in the B1G.

Actually, it does matter to many. It's Stanford so they have a natural edge and Tara has proven herself to be one of the coaching greats. There are other schools, like the one close by that has gained the unfortunate reputation as being for "urban" lesbians. The University has lost players because of that.

Stanford has not lost many players who were admitted. It's unlikely that the sexuality of their coaching staff means anything to these student athletes. Other schools, I wouldn't be so sure. The composition of the coaching staff, racially, sexually, etc. is of high importance to a recruit.

Roommates are what you have in college and first getting out of school when finances might be tight...

Older women who make VERY good money like Tara and Tucker are not simply roommates!

Snzuluz,

Why the assumption that two people who are not of college age and live together, are in relationship? People have roommates at various ages for various reasons. Doesn't mean that they are in a relationship with each other. I have roomates and we each have are own space. All of us are single hardworking women who felt that it would be financially feasible to share an apartment. I think is stupid to stereotype people and assume that they are "roomates"(ie in a relationship) because they are older and live together.

Roommates are what you have in college and first getting out of school when finances might be tight...

Older women who make VERY good money like Tara and Tucker are not simply roommates!

Snzuluz,

Why the assumption that two people who are not of college age and live together, are in relationship? People have roommates at various ages for various reasons. Doesn't mean that they are in a relationship with each other. I have roommates and we each have are own space. All of us are single hardworking women who felt that it would be financially feasible to share an apartment. I think is stupid to stereotype people and assume that they are "roomates"(ie in a relationship) because they are older and live together.

But in their case, it has only been the two of them, and for something like 3 decades.

It could be that Tucker's retirement allowed Kate Paye to get more money/status and thus keep Paye from taking the USC job.

Or not.

I was thinking something like that. According to the article they both were associate coaches (Stanford has already changed their roster page so I can't verify that now), in the case of Paye she is "The Harry K. and Ida S. Berland Associate Head Women's Basketball Coach". So removing Tucker could be a way to assure her that she is the associate coach that will get VanderVeer's position as "The Setsuko Ishiyama Director of Women's Basketball " when she retires.

Not a fan of rich people giving part of their fortune to pay the salary of college coaches and assistant coaches.

It's actually endowing a position. Many if not most schools do this when they can as it takes pressure of athletic department budgets. I don't see anything wrong with it. At my alma mater (not Cal) they are trying to get the women's head coaching position endowed by pooling donations from a number of donors. Obviously the people who can afford to endow the position have money to donate, but I see it as a positive for the health of the women's program. The women's lacrosse position was recently endowed by a group led by former athletes. Obviously at Stanford, it appears individual donors made the basketball position endowments possible, but this type of funding is quite common for positions and scholarships (and professorships).

I'd much rather see those donations go to a professorship, but I am weird and think the main purpose of a university is education and research.

Well, essentially you could say this type of endowment does effectively give more money to schollies, etc. since fewer budget dollars being spent on coaches, more available for other expenses and academic programs/scholarships....the point of an endowment is that it's self-sustaining and helps bottom line of institution. Also, many people do endow scholarships...the walls at Haas are filled with photos of the various athletes with what endowed schollie they've received.

This photo at the final four. Lindy right in the middle of the coaches

Who is wearing the Princess Leia t-shirt on the front row?

Milena Flores, the point guard at Stanford during the "lean" years of 1997-2000. Brief WNBA career and now Banghart's top assistant at Princeton.

Interesting she didn't get the nod over Lindy

I wonder if she's coach-in-waiting for when a school with academic standards throws enough money at Banghart for Banghart to jump ship. (Or maybe not standards, but I always got the sense that Banghart wouldn't leave Princeton for any school with far inferior academics.)

Saw Kate Starbird's name on the long list of potential new assistants. Very unlikely. Kate is an assistant professor at UW in Human Centered Design. Can't see some one tossing aside a tenure track gig at a prestigious university to become an assistant basketball coach.

Saw Kate Starbird's name on the long list of potential new assistants. Very unlikely. Kate is an assistant professor at UW in Human Centered Design. Can't see some one tossing aside a tenure track gig at a prestigious university to become an assistant basketball coach.