I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.

I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.

Maybe, I am currently debating about her overall policies and how they affected the country, but I can see where she would be wrong in that specific quote. I just know when I am free to choose I choose freedom.

"The chief business of the American people is business." - Calvin Coolidge

Maybe, I am currently debating about her overall policies and how they affected the country, but I can see where she would be wrong in that specific quote.

Yeah, it was probably just a political quote.

I just know when I am free to choose I choose freedom.

Me too. At least, I think I would. I imagine my decision making calculus would be different if I wasn't blessed with the privileges I do have that keep me from having to rely on what the OP disparagingly calls "free stuff"

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Maybe, I am currently debating about her overall policies and how they affected the country, but I can see where she would be wrong in that specific quote.

Yeah, it was probably just a political quote.

I just know when I am free to choose I choose freedom.

Me too. At least, I think I would. I imagine my decision making calculus would be different if I wasn't blessed with the privileges I do have that keep me from having to rely on what the OP disparagingly calls "free stuff"

That is why I think when Thatcher made that speech, she meant it that in having freedom of choice, the people were already choosing freedom because of the choice. In societies were there is no freedom that are no choices.

"The chief business of the American people is business." - Calvin Coolidge

That is why I think when Thatcher made that speech, she meant it that in having freedom of choice, the people were already choosing freedom because of the choice. In societies were there is no freedom that are no choices.

Ahh I see where you are coming from. So you see her quote as a factual statement rather than an opinion.

I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations.
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection,
For a rhythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.

That is why I think when Thatcher made that speech, she meant it that in having freedom of choice, the people were already choosing freedom because of the choice. In societies were there is no freedom that are no choices.

Ahh I see where you are coming from. So you see her quote as a factual statement rather than an opinion.

Yeah, by already having freedom of choice they have chosen freedom.

"The chief business of the American people is business." - Calvin Coolidge

At 7/24/2014 12:30:10 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:You can want free stuff, or you can want freedom.Not both.

The "free stuff" is paid for by our taxes, so isn't really free. Though I think it is possible to have a bit of both as seen in our government. We are not entirely a socialist state, though we do have state run institutions that are "free" such as school.

There are problems with the public school system, but on the whole I'd prefer that than have a person's wealth determine the course of their life. Rich and poor should both alike have access to education, else there isn't much the poorer people can do with their freedom. It's also necessary to give up certain freedoms for the sake of our overall security, hence we have a government in the first place.

I would say that Libertarianism isn't the answer, nor is a totally socialist perspective. The answer lies somewhere in between, and equality comes hand in hand with freedom which cannot be found in anarchy.

At 7/24/2014 12:30:10 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:You can want free stuff, or you can want freedom.Not both.

The "free stuff" is paid for by our taxes, so isn't really free. Though I think it is possible to have a bit of both as seen in our government. We are not entirely a socialist state, though we do have state run institutions that are "free" such as school.

There are problems with the public school system, but on the whole I'd prefer that than have a person's wealth determine the course of their life. Rich and poor should both alike have access to education, else there isn't much the poorer people can do with their freedom. It's also necessary to give up certain freedoms for the sake of our overall security, hence we have a government in the first place.

I would say that Libertarianism isn't the answer, nor is a totally socialist perspective. The answer lies somewhere in between, and equality comes hand in hand with freedom which cannot be found in anarchy.

I'm scratching my head at that last statement there. A popular anarchist slogan is 'Liberty, equality, solidarity' after all.

I went to an opening day at a messenger bag shop where they gave out free, delicious sandwiches and kombucha. Then I recalled the awesome free samples at Costco in the states. Then I realized that every major city has marketing campaigns where they give out free sh!t. The more wealthy a nation is, the more they can and do give to charity, family, friends.

You can either have inefficient free stuff provided by government with poor service and economic stagnation [http://cdn.static-economist.com...] or free stuff provided by companies, family, friends in a healthy economic climate.