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Defy Media owns and operates online brands including Smosh,[8] Shut Up! Cartoons, Clevver Media, Smosh Games, The Escapist,[9] Teen,[10] Gurl,[10] The Gloss,[10] and Crushable, as well as Break.com, Screen Junkies, CagePotato, Chickipedia, HolyTaco, MadeMan, AllLeftTurns, TuVez and GameFront which were inherited from Break media. Each of these brands operates a dedicated website and YouTube channel. Defy Media's online program offerings include The Single Life, The Confession, Fashion on the Fly,[11] Dating Rules,[8] Chasing,[12][13] Style Rules,[14] Wendy,[15] Style Setters,[16][17] and The Sub.[18]

Formerly 'TesUsa'

Fuck this guy. Hope his career is destroyed and his wife leaves him. Dunno if he has kids or not but Ill feel bad for his family. Brave women to step up thats never easy. Helps when others come forward though.

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Noticed these kinds of sexual assault cases mostly come from geek film outlets, and not outlets like Variety, Indiewire, The Film Stage, The Hollywood Reporter, etc. Is it because they don't have women in higher roles or are predominantly male geeks?

A little of both. A little because outlets focusing on geek/nerd culture tend to champion childish/unprofessional behavior. And a little because there's an unfortunate clique attitude with geek/nerd sites.

It's reassuring to see people closely involved here react accordingly. Elsewhere you'd see the same people calling out others while in the next sentence defending abusers they're friends with. It's why it keeps happening.

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Noticed these kinds of sexual assault cases mostly come from geek film outlets, and not outlets like Variety, Indiewire, The Film Stage, The Hollywood Reporter, etc. Is it because they don't have women in higher roles or are predominantly male geeks?

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First & foremost, fuck Defy for shutting down GameTrailers. Secondly, fuck Defy for keeping Andy around knowing this was happening. I'm legit shocked by this. I'm super happy that Dan spoke out against him.

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No, I say it as a victim of sexual assault. I know what it is like to have someone with more power than you hold it over you that you cant do anything (he was an older relative). I know if I just said something about it, it would be taken as I just didnt know what I was saying. When there is more than one source it starts to become more damning.

Its also uncomfortablly telling how people leap to conclusions without evidence. You may have been one of the people burning others in Salem, or sentencing people to death from "hard evidence" in cases where later DNA evidence showed innocence but oops they are already dead.

You dont just say things without something else to back it up, otherwise it has no meaning.

Unlike the issue with rape culture, toxic masculinity and a US president who was voted into office literally weeks after admitting - on tape - that he's a serial sexual harasser, there was no actual "witch culture" in Salem. - Not a single witch was guilty.

Again, people people are acting as if false accusations were something that happened even REMOTELY as often as actual harassment and that's why we should be super weary. Meanwhile real, actual witness reports are downplayed, brushed off, silenced on a day to day basis.

It's understandable that people don't want to turn on individuals they've come to respect the work of based on hearsay, but at the same time the fair-minded "I will wait for more evidence to make a decision as many men's lives are ruined by women lying about this stuff!" things inherently make it harder for women to come forward.

The first woman had to essentially risk everyone just tossing her aside if nobody else came forward; not because what she was saying was untrue, but because the first concern for a lot of people is making sure the accused is completely insulated from any particular negative fallout. Lip service to believing the woman, but always with the immediate list of reasons why you can believe her while still acting in a way consistent with not believing her.

Because it's generally not, "If true, this is disappointing." and waiting to find out more. It's generally "Only one woman? With no proof? I of course always believe the victim but it's really important we all keep in mind this could be nothing and we shouldn't judge him unfairly." It's I'm-not-calling-her-a-liar-but-she-could-totally-be-a-liar-please-keep-that-in-mind.

It doesn't mean tar and feather the guy after the first woman comes forward, just... maybe don't immediately tack BUT SHE COULD BE LYING on to the discussion. If you want to wait and see, wait and see.

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Damn. You gotta have some sort of power to do this stuff if you look like this guy. In no world is sexual harassment okay, but damn, it takes a lot of nerve to act like this. You have to feel bad for people who are just trying to do a job and are subjected to this sort of treatment. It's disgusting. Sickening more that some men want to "stick together" in times like this.

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Damn I really like some of their content like honest trailers and movie fights. But this is disgusting.

I wonder if they can still continue if they kick him out or if the brand is too damaged. I will not unsubscribe immediately because I still like the rest of the crew, but I will not be watching anything with Andy anymore.

i decided to unsubscribe immediately, to send a message - i'd be willing to resubscribe, once the necessary actions have been taken. (removal of Signore, statement by defy - especially with regards to why HR didn't act... at all)

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i decided to unsubscribe immediately, to send a message - i'd be willing to resubscribe, once the necessary actions have been taken. (removal of Signore, statement by defy - especially with regards to why HR didn't act... at all)

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What the fuck... Gross. Hope more victims feel empowered to speak out now.

Really creepy how insidious this shit is. Like Weinstein and other predators, there are probably many other women who were also violated by this perv. Goddamn. Thank God, she kept receipts. What a fucking creep.

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Absolutely awful. Signore needs to get the boot. And HR not taking this seriously enough but instead covering for Signore is exactly what I was talking about earlier when I said that the people who matter should be listening, investigating and acting accordingly. They didn't, it's fucked up.

Edit: Great to see that people that closely work with Signore are quick to condemn his actions and don't just remain silent.

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i decided to unsubscribe immediately, to send a message - i'd be willing to resubscribe, once the necessary actions have been taken. (removal of Signore, statement by defy - especially with regards to why HR didn't act... at all)

The immediate witch hunts on the first page (calling for his resignation, #fuckoff #milkshakeduck et al) were the trash responses there, not ones that followed. In almost every one of these cases the public will have an infinitely better sense of it all given a little time. In this case it didn't even take 24 hours. Taking a vaguely pragmatic stance while a breaking story that landed in the middle of the night and didn't contain any supporting evidence develops is not dismissing the allegation out of hand or calling the person stepping forward a liar, and the story developing in a particular (unsurprising...) way does not retroactively prove that initial approach wrong.

Reel in the reductive binary rhetoric. It's every thread on Off-Topic at this point.

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Noticed these kinds of sexual assault cases mostly come from geek film outlets, and not outlets like Variety, Indiewire, The Film Stage, The Hollywood Reporter, etc. Is it because they don't have women in higher roles or are predominantly male geeks?

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Ah that sucks if true. And the tweets that have been reposted here are pretty damning.
I don't subscribe to Screen Junkies but I watch Movie Fights occasionally. He seemed like a cool guy. Sigh... Another one to add to the pile I guess.

I liked Roth Cornet when she was at IGN and now I learned that she's the EiC of Screen Junkies. I wonder if she'll speak out about this.

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And it's crazy to think that that entire milieu is so incestuous that it took so long for women to speak out. That's a scary thought.

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Ah that sucks if true. And the tweets that have been reposted here are pretty damning.
I don't suscribe to Screen Junkies but I watch Movie Fights occasionally. He seemed like a cool guy. Sigh... Another one to add to the pile I guess.

I liked Roth Cornet when she was at IGN and now I learned that she's the EiC of Screen Junkies. I wonder if she'll speak out about this.

Dude, he's a 2 time Emmy nominee, they've had pretty big panels at SDCC and NYCC - they're among the biggest 'Non-major-TV-Network' movie channels on Youtube, regularly getting interviews with the lead actors of blockbuster movies.