And yet, when they wrote it into the constitution, they had in mind the most powerful and deadly hand-held weapon of the time.

dirtysteve00-"Like they would raise a weapon against the armed forces if the time came."

You seem to be that, if the government were to turn it's own armed forces upon it's citizens, there'd actually be much of that all volunteer force left? I can assure you, the majority of the armed forces would be on the side of the citizens.

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 5:21:53 PM"I'm pretty sure that all of you claiming the Constitution as your reason for insisting on the "right" to own military grade rifles and ammunition are the same people who would vote to include the 10 Commandments in court houses, prayer in school, the forced teaching of Christian-based Creationism as a science class, abstinence-only sex ed and the prevention of any mosques being built here,"

You clearly know nothing about weapons. An average citizen MAY NOT own a military grade weapon. Only a specially licensed, federally licensed citizen may own a military grade weapon. But listening to the media blow a bunch of smoke is easier than thinking and researching facts. Oh, and all the school stuff, religion should not be forced in public schools, just private. The rest of the kids can get it on Sunday. And the ten commandments in the courtroom? Not really an argument available as our laws are based on the ten commandments, but why remind the criminals right? A

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 5:14:01 PMThey call Obam an elitist hypocrite. That is a true statement. He proves it everyday. But like my mamma said "that's like the pot calling the kettle black". I left the NRA a long time ago after I figured out all they want is more money from you, and only really support the extreme gun owners, not the average everyday gun owner. You know, the one who doesn't need a large magazine to hit his target, or a semi automatic rifle for hunting. I own none of these, but taking away my right to have one kinda irks me. Oh, and I prefer revolvers too semi auto pistols. You don't have to remember to pick up your brass if you are in a hurry.

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 4:10:44 PM vote to include the 10 Commandments in court houses, prayer in school, the forced teaching of Christian-based Creationism as a science class, abstinence-only sex ed and the prevention of any mosques being built here, ever

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 3:52:52 PMJoexBro summed it up nicely. It's not about school shootings or hunting or any of that crap. It is solely about protecting ourselves against a tyrannical gov't. Today, Obama took a HUGE step towards tyranny and all you libutards just don't see it.

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 3:32:51 PM@JoexBro - Should fully automatic M-16 rifles be allowed in the general public's hands? How about an M-249 SAW?

You can debate this, obviously, but I don't think the founders envisioned the raw destructive power that might one day be easily available to ordinary citizens. While the 2nd amendment guarantees our right to bear arms, I doubt it's meant to cover ANY arms you can manage. Where we draw that line can surely be argued and challenged, but I doubt many ordinary individuals don't want a line at all.

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 3:25:00 PMI'm pretty sure that all of you claiming the Constitution as your reason for insisting on the "right" to own military grade rifles and ammunition are the same people who would vote to include the 10 Commandments in court houses, prayer in school, the forced teaching of Christian-based Creationism as a science class, abstinence-only sex ed and the prevention of any mosques being built here, ever. And Sharia Law. Derp. Derp. Derp.

So forgive me if your Second Amendment argument holds no water with me.

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 3:23:32 PM@MeGrendel - No way in hell am saying we shouldn't worry about the safety of our kids. My school district keeps every door locked with only one electronically locked point of entry with cameras to see who is trying to get in. Select teachers are trained in crisis operations and police officers whenever possible are either on premise or patrolling. There ARE things we can do.

But to equate a high profile target, under constant threat by highly motivated and possibly even trained attackers, as the same as the remote possibility that a mentally unstable dickweed tries to shoot his way through the front door -- is retarded.

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 2:20:34 PMHere, I'll end the whole debate on gun control right now. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Get real on societal impact on people who lose it and go kill people with guns. Form a well regulated militia controlled by the people in the state and not the federal government. Government must give technologies that it posess's to these free states so that they may defend themselves against a tyrannical or oppressive government. The End (No political affiliation or agenda, just going by the bill if rights)

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:54:14 PMOkay, I'm willing to debate gun stuff until the cows come home, but this is just effing stupid. The safety of the president's family (regardless of who the president is) is a national security issue precisely because if threatening forces thought they could leverage a threat against the president's family to gain leverage against the president and national security, they would.

Can the same be said for your kids or mine? No. If the NRA wants to make good points in the gun control argument, fine. But this is just dumbass broken BS.

Wednesday, January 16, 2013 1:31:16 PMHow effin stupid is this argument I keep hearing for the pro-gun movement? Do we REALLY expect the leader of most powerful country in human history to pretend he doesn't have a huge target painted on his, and his family's back for all the crazies and foreign enemies that want him dead?

When my kids go to school... there is NOBODY that specifically wants them dead, so yeah, I'm not to worried about having armed security guards around all the time. But you can bet I don't want my President worrying about how many people might want to hurt HIS children, instead of focusing on his job. And that goes for WHOEVER is in office.

Just a desperate organization struggling to keep its relevance in an ever changing cultural climate. Their money I guess.