SHAME ON YOU! The Marvelettes should have been inducted into the Hall of Fame "long ago". What are you thinking? And yet you put the Ronettes in. They deserve their due and I'm sure lots of people will agree. The Marvelettes have had many hits including Motown's first number one hit. To overlook the Marveletes would be a big mistake on your part. And I'm still waiting for this "special induction".

The inductees to the R&R Hall of Fame are moreso reflective of the board members' personal biases than the amount of hits an artist had. I mean Buffalo Springfield and the Ronettes??

What's shameful about it is the Ronettes' career lasted just 3 years, from '63-'66, and they had ONE Top 20 record. People are usually shocked to find this out. The girls were all over TV and were Oldies radio staples so the assumption is that they must have had a bunch of hits. Erm.. uh.. not hardly!

The Marvelettes' contribution to the musical landscape is much more prolific. Part of the problem is the Marvelettes were girl-group pioneers and didn't have the same opportunity for media exposure the Ronettes had. Ronnie and the girls were all over TV thanks to their connection to mogul Phil Spector and also, in my opinion, because of their racial ambiguity which mattered in 1963. For the longest many people didn't know if they were Black, Latino, White or what. This worked in their favor. The Marvelettes on the other hand didn't get the same exposure.

The Ronettes' records weren't even as big as their "sisters" The Crystals yet Lala Brooks and those girls haven't been considered. It's really a joke. I stopped taking the R&R Hall of Fame seriously a while ago.

The Marvelettes' contribution to the musical landscape is much more prolific. Part of the problem is the Marvelettes were girl-group pioneers and didn't have the same opportunity for media exposure the Ronettes had. Ronnie and the girls were all over TV thanks to their connection to mogul Phil Spector and also, in my opinion, because of their racial ambiguity which mattered in 1963. For the longest many people didn't know if they were Black, Latino, White or what. This worked in their favor. The Marvelettes on the other hand didn't get the same exposure.

The Ronettes' records weren't even as big as their "sisters" The Crystals yet Lala Brooks and those girls haven't been considered. It's really a joke. I stopped taking the R&R Hall of Fame seriously a while ago.

Well, leaving The Marvelettes out of the R&R Hall of Fame is more than an oversight.....it's ridiculous!
Their very first release as high school kids in Inkster, Michigan.........hit # 1 on Billboard: "Please Mr. Postman"!
The Beatles covered "Postman" on their first album!
It was Motown Records first national #1 hit!
The Carpenters covered "Postman" and brought it back to #1 on Billboard!
The Marvelettes had hits from 1961 till the close of the decade. The Ronettes had "Be My Baby" #2, their only Top Ten hit............they lasted 3 years with low charting efforts, yey The Ronettes were inducted. I read where no Ronette other than Ronnie Spector was on "Be My Baby". The Blossoms and other Spector backup singers were used instead.
The Marvelettes filled up a 2 disc Anthology record. That means hits, hits hits!
I'm sure if Ahmet Ertegun were still with us he'd agree that The Marvelettes are due an induction.
They were one of the premier Girl Groups.
Their recorded output was written by Smokey Robinson; Marvin Gaye; Holland~Dozier~Holland and many more including Motown founder Berry Gordy (writer & producer of The Marvelettes' "My Daddy Knows Best".)

Let's put the marvelous Marvelettes in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame!!!

Two great lead singers: Gladys Horton and Wanda Rogers, and ALL those great records, including masterpieces ("He's a Good Guy Yes He Is") that somehow didn't catch on at the time. Kick some of those one-hit-wonder male groups out of the Hall of Fame and put the Marvelettes in -- NOW!!!!

Here is a funny one on this forum.. They only have 176
votes! Coven Has 1000's hmmmmm I wonder..? LOL
What I am saying is don't feel that what the folks on the forum thinks is gospel ... If it were... ..Coven should be billionaires and sell outs shows all over the universe Rock ON!

"What's shameful about it is the Ronettes' career lasted just 3 years, from '63-'66, and they had ONE Top 20 record. People are usually shocked to find this out. The girls were all over TV and were Oldies radio staples so the assumption is that they must have had a bunch of hits. Erm.. uh.. not hardly!" - Frank

Why the need to trash the Ronettes? Why can't the Ronettes AND the Marvelettes both be in the Hall side by side?

This is a 1965 video of their 1961 hit. By this time, original members Georganna and Wynetta had left the group,(though they were on the original recording) and only GLADYS, KATHY, and WANDA were present.

I actually think the chances of a Marvelettes induction is definitely something to be looking out for. Like I say they may be the upset inductee this year. Since the R&R HOF always inducts a '60s act, I don't think Paul Butterfield will get in... most of the nominees are '70s with some '80s. Keep that in mind as the weeks draw nearer to learning about the inductees.

TERRIBLE. Nobody knows who the hell these people are. Their genre of music is very well represented and The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has been snubbing blues rock, arena rock, heavy metal and punk rock almost in its entirety. They do not even come close to meriting inclusion in my mind.

I have nothing against The Ronettes, but they should have NEVER been inducted before The Marvelettes. The Marvelettes have 3 TIMES the Chart Hits of The Ronettes and were MUCH MORE influential to boot !!! Their success opened the doors for every female act on Motown...including The Supremes and The Vandellas

And you say you don't know who they are ? How about that great song "Please Mr Postman". You know , the one that The Beatles and The Carpenters recorded ? WHO DO YOU THINK MADE IT FIRST ? And took it all the way to #1 ?? The very FIRST # 1 HIT THAT MOTOWN EVER HAD ?

Maybe YOU don't know "who the hell" they are...but don't speak for the rest of us.

I never said Marvelettes weren't worthy. But your post seemed to idnicate they're more worthy than The Stooges, who pretty much created punk as well as laying most of the groundwork for alt/indie rock.

The Marvelettes are just as worthy as ANY Rock Hall worthy act. And , If they don't get in, due to some 80's Rap or Rock act that wins the current popularity poll...it would be a real TRAVESTY.

If The Marvelettes don't make it in, there's a chance they won't be inducted again. Like The Spinners, who weren't inducted in 2012, and didn't make the ballot again this year.Most classic R&B acts don't get a second chance.

I just want to see them get their due .while most are still alive. 2 of them are already dead...Gladys Horton and Georganna Tillman.There are only 3 left.

Knowing the RRHOF... WHO KNOWS ?? They are notorious for picking and choosing among group members....inducting some , while leaving others out in the cold .

Anyway, Roy, that is not the real issue. The REAL question is.... WILL THEY GET INDUCTED AT ALL ??

There are just so many slots available each year...and I have a feeling that THIS is how the voting will go:

1. RUSH

2.DONNA SUMMER

3. ALBERT KING

4. HEART or DEEP PURPLE

5. RANDY NEWMAN

..As much as I'd like to see THE MARVELETTES get in ...I can't help but think that they only got on the ballet because of being profiled on the TV series UNSUNG. That series did a similar profile on THE SPINNERS two years ago, and as a result, they made the ballot last year...but they weren't inducted...nor were they even nominated again.

I fear that the same thing will happen to THE MARVELETTES.

I hope I'm wrong.

Most of the current inductees weren't even AROUND when The Marvelettes had their 10 year run of Motown hits.

If the Marvelettes don't get inducted...my fear is that they won't even be NOMINATED again...while the Rock and Rap acts almost always get a second chance....

Maybe if the Marvelettes get inducted, it will open the doors for other female groups, The Pointer Sisters, Shangri-Las,Chantels,Andantes (Musical Excellence), Sweet Insprations (ditto),and maybe others as well.

I'd LOVE to see The Marvelettes get inducted. It would be a validation of all the hard work that they've done over the years...and they would FINALLY get their just dues after all of the bad things that Motown did to them . But, sadly, I don't think that it's going to happen.They're probably going to get the shaft AGAIN...just like the Spinners did last year.

Can't the Hall of Fame give this Rap thing a rest...JUST ONCE ? ...and let this truly deserving group of ladies FINALLY receive their proper credit ?

"Maybe next year, but considering this year two of the most, if not the most, deserving rap acts have been nominated ignoring them would be far, far worse than ignoring the Marvelettes."

Since the Marvelettes were one of the pioneering Girl Groups...and the first Female group to break the stranglehold that The Shirelles had on the charts, plus the fact that they had Motown's VERY FIRST # 1 Pop Hit, one that inspired cover versions by The Beatles AND the Carpenters...not to mention more than 2 dozen Billboard Chart Hits...I think that ignoring THEM would be far more of a travesty than ignoring a couple of Rap Groups that could easily wait another 5-10 Years to get in. I personally think that The Marvelettes are FAR more important to Rock and Rock History. They have also lost 2 of their 5 original members...and have waited some 27 years to even get NOMINATED...why should these rap groups get in on their first try ??

I assure you ...BOTH of those rap groups will NOT get in this year. There will be a split vote...and at best, only ONE of them will get in... and at worst case , neither.

In my view ,all of this emphasis on Rap is just The RRHOF being politically correct.There are STILL WAY TOO MANY deserving Fifties, Sixties,and Seventies acts waiting to get in to let every Eighties Rap act that comes down the pike get in on their first try. The Marvelettes were just as groundbraking in their era as you claim that these rappers were in theirs. Just because YOU weren't alive back then to know it...doesn't mean it's not true.
In the Fifties and early Sixties, America was a very different place then it is now. Black acts had to do TWICE the work...(and endure tremendous prejudice), to get HALF the recognition as White acts did back then. The great crossover success that Eighties rappers enjoyed was the result:They are the recipients of all the benefits that the hard work that early artists like The Marvelettes did to make Black R&B music a worldwide phenomenon.

If it wasn't for the groundbraking work of artists like The Marvelettes...that did TWICE the work... for less than HALF the money...these Rap artists today wouldn't be able to command the huge million-dollar contracts,book deals, clothing lines,and T.V. and movie roles,that they enjoy today. These opportunities were simply not open to Black Artists back then. The Marvelettes and other R&B Artists made that possible. Do you REALLY believe that they made anywhere NEAR same money that artists that COVERED their tunes, like THE BEATLES and THE CARPENTERS made ??

After 27 years of being ignored, The Marvelettes deserve to be inducted...

The Beastie Boys and Afrika Bambaataa were beaten by The Dave Clark Five and The Ventures in 2008, and LL Cool J was beaten by ABBA and The Hollies in 2009, and beaten by Darlene Love in 2010. I'm pretty sure The Marvelettes will beat N.W.A. and Public Enemy for the 2013 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame!

"Also, what's all this nonsense about inducting rap being politically correct? Because most rappers are black?"

NO. But rather, because, in order to make fans of current musical trends (like Rap & Hip-Hop) think that they are "with it", the RRHOF feels that they have to recognize EVERY Rap Artist (deserving or not) that came along in the Eighties AS SOON AS THEY ARE ELIGIBLE.

This is not fair to artists of other genres, especially Progressive Rock, and Late '60's/70's Soul and R&B...two of the most IGNORED genres in music as far as RRHOF nomination & induction is concerned.
Prog fans know what I'm talking about.THE MOODY BLUES , RUSH,(now finally nominated), YES, JETHRO TULL, and others are a case in point.

So do fans of Late '60's/70's Soul . For Example, tell me just HOW the H of F just completely BYPASSED such important late 60's/early 70's artists as: BARRY WHITE, LOU RAWLS, THE SPINNERS, RUFUS, THE DELFONICS, THE STYLISTICS, HAROLD MELVIN & THE BLUE NOTES,THE WHISPERS, THE DRAMATICS,DIONNE WARWICK, GENE CHANDLER, DONNA SUMMER, WAR,THE MANHATTANS, and numerous others...and went straight to NOMINATING and INDUCTING '80's Rap acts ?? Artists that wouldn't even have careers if not for the groundbraking work of these previously-mentioned artists ? Just to placate current music fans and bring them into the ceremony to sell tickets ??

THAT'S what I mean by being "politically correct": making fans of CURRENT MUSICAL TRENDS happy at the expense of older music fans.

And what about 70's Funk artists? Only a couple of artists from THAT era are in the Hall.Parliament/Funkaelic , Earth,Wind,and Fire...and the mind searches from there.Where are The Ohio Players? Confunkshun ?, Kool & The Gang ?, The Bar-Kays ? The Commodores ? Why no nominations or inductions for THEM ?

How can ENTIRE MUSICAL GENRES be just....IGNORED...as if the artists of those genres were of little or no importance...in favor of Rap and Hip-Hop artists who didn't come along until YEARS LATER ??

Also Roy, I wouldn't be so sure about that. PE and N.W.A are massive names in rap, much bigger than LL Cool J and Afrika Bambaataa, especially when you consider the newer artists inducted will probably throw a vote their way.

"The Marvelettes are not equal to The Ronettes. The Ronettes got inducted right away because Phil Spector kept them off the ballot. When Spector went to jail - people were finally able to vote for them. Same with The Righteous Brothers and Darlene Love."

The Marvelettes are FAR BEYOND the Ronettes....in chart hit records as well as influence !!

They have had THREE TIMES the chart hits of the Ronettes....and have had far more artists cover tunes , as well.

The ONLY reason that The Ronettes got in was because Spector has friends on the Nominating Committee. That's the SAME reason why Darlene Love got in instead of Mary Wells ...and artist, again , with FAR MORE HITS AND INFLUENCE.

If Smokey Robinson was on the Nom Com....I guarantee you...it would have been a FAR DIFFERENT STORY.
This proves the famous old saying...."It's not WHAT you know...it's WHO you know !!!

With the sole exception of perhaps ALBERT KING, NO ONE on this years ballot has waited longer than the Marvelettes. I think that it's LUDICROUS for a Rap group to get in as soon as they are eligible, while a legendary group such as the Marvelettes has to be ignored after waiting so long.
What many people blogging on this site are perhaps too young to remember, is that The Marvelettes were just as ground-braking in THEIR era as it is claimed that Public Enemy was in THEIRS. They were Motown's very FIRST successful female recording act. Before Mary Wells,The Supremes, Martha & The Vandellas, ALL OF THEM .The Marvelettes' success opened the doors for them ALL. aND NOT ONLY mOTOWN ACTS: THE MARVELETTES paved the way for other successful "Girl Groups" as well. Their success eclipsed The Chantels, outlasted the Shirelles, and opened the doors for The Ronettes,Shangri-Las, and numerous others...and they had Motown's first-ever #1 Pop Hit single. YES TO THE MARVELETTES !!!

As over the top as I think some of your rantings are, Bill G, I have to agree with you on this one. When they were nominated, I did not know much about them (other than "Mr. Postman") and wrongly dismissed them. But I decided to investigate further and picked up Ultimate Collection, and I must say, they are very impressive. I recognized several songs that I did not realize were theirs. I also, on a personal level, enjoyed them even more than Supremes or Martha and the Vandellas. I still say they are not in the Top 5 of the nominees, but I now will not feel disappointed if they do end up one of the inductees.

One of the ORIGINAL MARVELETTES is being SNUBBED by the "Hallowed Hall".

JUANITA COWART was the FIFTH original member of the group....and she has been on several important Marvelettes recordings...including the #1 hit PLEASE MR. POSTMAN,it's followup hit, TWISTIN' POSTMAN,the Top 10 smash,"PLAYBOY",the Top 10 R&B hit,"SOMEDAY, SOMEWAY", and the Top 20 Pop Hit,BEACHWOOD 4-5789.

Why is she being excluded ?

Is this just ANOTHER case of RRHOF elitism? picking and choosing just which members get in , and which don't ?

I could SEE it if Juanita had left the group before they began to chart...like Georgia Dobbins did, but she is on some really important records here.

With two of the original members already dead, lead singer,Gladys Horton and Georgeanna Tillman, can they REALLY afford to start leaving out other original members as if they had NEVER EXISTED ??

A possible Marvelettes induction SHOULD mean that ALL 5 ORIGINAL MEMBERS be inducted . ALL FIVE.

Surviving members Wanda Young, Kathy Schaffner, AND Juanita (Wynetta) Cowart should ALL be honored on induction day !!! The ladies need to SPEAK UP...

The Marvelettes were Motown's very first successful female act . EVERY SINGLE female artist on Motown owes the Marvelettes a GREAT DEBT.

The Supremes, Martha & The Vandellas,Mary Wells, Diana Ross solo, and numerous others traveled in the path first set by the MARVELETTES.
The Marvelettes have also influenced many other NON-MOTOWN ACTS AS WELL.
According to Clarles Crossley, at the "Top of The Charts" website:

The Marvelettes have been cited as an influence by and have been covered or sampled by the Miracles, Dusty Springfield, Darlene Love, the Beatles, the Supremes, Marvin Gaye, Gladys Knight & the Pips, the Rascals, Martha & the Vandellas, Paul McCartney, the Jackson 5, Bonnie Raitt, Blondie, the New York Dolls, Massive Attack with Tracy Thorn of Everything But The Girl, the Carpenters, Carla Thomas, the Chi-Lites, Mitch Ryder, Labelle, the Pointer Sisters, Florence Ballard of the Supremes, Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead, George Clinton, Phil Collins, Ella Fitzgerald, Jay-Z, Grace Jones, Dwight Yoakam, Betty Wright, Teena Marie, Lil Wayne, the Three Degrees, Sister Sledge, Melba Moore, the Crystals, the Cowsills, Candi Staton, Dee Dee Sharp, the Orlons, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony, Jeru The Damaja, Exile, Brenda & the Tabulations, the Tremeloes, Gwen Guthrie, Jazmine Sullivan, Harpers Bizarre, Bananarama, Taylor Dayne, Juelz Santana, J Dilla, the Elgins, the Action, the Flying Pickets, the Jets and Donnie and Marie Osmond, among many others.

BUT, as with SRV & Double Trouble, the RRHOF is ONCE AGAIN playing a CON GAME on us.

They are trying to EXCLUDE Original Marvelette JUANITA COWART from consideration for induction.

Motown's first #1 Pop Hit. In this 1964 clip, original members GLADYS HORTON, KATHY SCHAFFNER, and WANDA YOUNG-ROGERS are present, the other two original members , JUANITA COWART and GEORGEANNA TILLMAN had left the group...

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