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Councillor to fight by-election

The Lib Dem candidate for the Eastleigh by-election seemed to be taking the challenge in his stride when he went for a stroll with the Business Secretary this afternoon.

Mike Thornton, a parish and borough councillor since 2007, was selected at a hustings in the constituency last night.

And today he was joined in the constituency by Vince Cable The by-election, sparked by the resignation of former Cabinet minister Chris Huhne after he pleaded guilty to perverting the course of justice, is expected to be a brutal two-way contest between the Westminster coalition parties.

He will be up against Tory candidate Maria Hutchings, a staunch eurosceptic and opponent of David Cameron's gay marriage reforms which have split the party. She previously stood against Mr Huhne in 2010, losing out by 3,864 votes.

The leader of Eastleigh Council, Keith House, emailed party members last night to announce Mr Thornton's selection and appealing for support against ''the right wing Tory''. ''It's only 19 days until the election - and we need to make more phone calls to stop the right wing Tory winning,'' he said.

''I've known Mike for more than five years. He's proved himself to be a hard working and effective local parish and borough councillor. He will be a strong MP for Eastleigh residents and a valuable member of the Lib Dem parliamentary team.

''We've had over 100 helpers today in Eastleigh, but Tories are fighting hard and are spending a lot of money too.''

There was some excitement in Labour circles yesterday as the author and broadcaster John O'Farrell announced that he was going to put himself forward to be the party's candidate in the by-election.

In a move which some supporters thought would significantly improve Labour's chances of competing with the Tories and Lib Dems for the seat, Mr O'Farrell took to Twitter to declare his interest in running. He added: ''Sincerely believe Labour could actually win in Eastleigh. All those people who voted Lib Dem tactically last time did so to keep Cameron out.'' Labour is expected to select its candidate on Tuesday.

The 'Official Monster Raving Loony Party' are also fielding a candidate in the election. He is the party's leader Alan 'Howling Laud' Hope from Fleet in Hampshire.

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''It's only 19 days until the election - and we need to make more phone calls to stop the right wing Tory winning,'' he said.

Talk about how to pee the electorate off, phone calls????? Are they suicidal?

''It's only 19 days until the election - and we need to make more phone calls to stop the right wing Tory winning,'' he said.
Talk about how to pee the electorate off, phone calls????? Are they suicidal?IronLady2010

In fairness to Tories and their Lib Dem buddies have got their act going.

But what on earth is going on with NuLabour?

Considering John Denham has been reported running around in Eastleigh I am surprised even with his ability they have not got the act together. Feel sorry for John having to face the people but not able to tell who is the candidate.

If Milliband's local party is inefficient why coul the national executive step in and declare candidate from the past like Alan Lloyd?

Local NuLabour officialdom may have been demoralised over the years because well oild Lib Dem machine dominated by liars and serious law breakers had been successfully running rings around them. But now the lies have been exposed even in court of law.

There are plenty of Labour people around who are willing to travel to Eastleigh for helping in campaign. As exceptionally efficient MP for Ealing and Southall friend of mine wants to do, there could be many more like him.

Come on guys in Eastleigh you have plenty of troops, now give them a candidate to campaign for. Even I have promised Varindra Sharma if Alan is candidate I wil help NuLabour campaign against policies of Coalition partners who do not trust each other, but want people to put their faith in them...

What a cheek? Not just ordinary cheek but Opportunist Coalition Cheek.

In fairness to Tories and their Lib Dem buddies have got their act going.
But what on earth is going on with NuLabour?
Considering John Denham has been reported running around in Eastleigh I am surprised even with his ability they have not got the act together. Feel sorry for John having to face the people but not able to tell who is the candidate.
If Milliband's local party is inefficient why coul the national executive step in and declare candidate from the past like Alan Lloyd?
Local NuLabour officialdom may have been demoralised over the years because well oild Lib Dem machine dominated by liars and serious law breakers had been successfully running rings around them. But now the lies have been exposed even in court of law.
There are plenty of Labour people around who are willing to travel to Eastleigh for helping in campaign. As exceptionally efficient MP for Ealing and Southall friend of mine wants to do, there could be many more like him.
Come on guys in Eastleigh you have plenty of troops, now give them a candidate to campaign for. Even I have promised Varindra Sharma if Alan is candidate I wil help NuLabour campaign against policies of Coalition partners who do not trust each other, but want people to put their faith in them...
What a cheek? Not just ordinary cheek but Opportunist Coalition Cheek.Paramjit Bahia

I've already had 2 phone calls,told the girl today I've already had a call yesterday & didn't want to answer any questions,she replied,oh it must have a different company,how many calls am I going to get ????

I've already had 2 phone calls,told the girl today I've already had a call yesterday & didn't want to answer any questions,she replied,oh it must have a different company,how many calls am I going to get ????knittingnanna

Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.IronLady2010

IronLady2010 wrote:
Any telephone campaign is an auto NO. Most people hate cold callers as we all have so many.

Not much point in approaching Lib Dems for a blanket ban on cold callers LOL

[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Any telephone campaign is an auto NO. Most people hate cold callers as we all have so many.[/p][/quote]Not much point in approaching Lib Dems for a blanket ban on cold callers LOLIronLady2010

IronLady2010 wrote:
''It's only 19 days until the election - and we need to make more phone calls to stop the right wing Tory winning,'' he said.

Talk about how to pee the electorate off, phone calls????? Are they suicidal?

They have got to be suicidal politically to contest this election.

Next general election is likely to be the swans song of unprincipled hypocrite Lib Dem Party after that people wont have to put up with most annoying time wasting phone calls.

[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
''It's only 19 days until the election - and we need to make more phone calls to stop the right wing Tory winning,'' he said.
Talk about how to pee the electorate off, phone calls????? Are they suicidal?[/p][/quote]They have got to be suicidal politically to contest this election.
Next general election is likely to be the swans song of unprincipled hypocrite Lib Dem Party after that people wont have to put up with most annoying time wasting phone calls.Paramjit Bahia

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.Paramjit Bahia

Why on earth would anybody vote for the liberal democrats,their leader is a joke whose only claim to fame is sleeping with a considerable amount of women,Chris Hulne is a despicable waste of timme,he cost the tax payer £100,000 because he continually pleaded not guilty to an offence which everybody in the countrty knew he committed (except for that plank of a leader Nick Clegg)not only did Hulne break the law and lie about it he decided to buy an I Pad on expenses a few weeks ago knowing that he was about to resign as an MP because he could not get his very expensive legal team to find a loophole to get him off the hook.You cannot trust the bearded sandal brigade,they always let people down,there is no point commenting on Labour,when in power they always ruin the country.

Why on earth would anybody vote for the liberal democrats,their leader is a joke whose only claim to fame is sleeping with a considerable amount of women,Chris Hulne is a despicable waste of timme,he cost the tax payer £100,000 because he continually pleaded not guilty to an offence which everybody in the countrty knew he committed (except for that plank of a leader Nick Clegg)not only did Hulne break the law and lie about it he decided to buy an I Pad on expenses a few weeks ago knowing that he was about to resign as an MP because he could not get his very expensive legal team to find a loophole to get him off the hook.You cannot trust the bearded sandal brigade,they always let people down,there is no point commenting on Labour,when in power they always ruin the country.netley020

netley020 wrote:
Why on earth would anybody vote for the liberal democrats,their leader is a joke whose only claim to fame is sleeping with a considerable amount of women,Chris Hulne is a despicable waste of timme,he cost the tax payer £100,000 because he continually pleaded not guilty to an offence which everybody in the countrty knew he committed (except for that plank of a leader Nick Clegg)not only did Hulne break the law and lie about it he decided to buy an I Pad on expenses a few weeks ago knowing that he was about to resign as an MP because he could not get his very expensive legal team to find a loophole to get him off the hook.You cannot trust the bearded sandal brigade,they always let people down,there is no point commenting on Labour,when in power they always ruin the country.

perfectly put.

[quote][p][bold]netley020[/bold] wrote:
Why on earth would anybody vote for the liberal democrats,their leader is a joke whose only claim to fame is sleeping with a considerable amount of women,Chris Hulne is a despicable waste of timme,he cost the tax payer £100,000 because he continually pleaded not guilty to an offence which everybody in the countrty knew he committed (except for that plank of a leader Nick Clegg)not only did Hulne break the law and lie about it he decided to buy an I Pad on expenses a few weeks ago knowing that he was about to resign as an MP because he could not get his very expensive legal team to find a loophole to get him off the hook.You cannot trust the bearded sandal brigade,they always let people down,there is no point commenting on Labour,when in power they always ruin the country.[/p][/quote]perfectly put.MGRA

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

I have to agree Mr Bahia!

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]I have to agree Mr Bahia!IronLady2010

UKIP are good for a local by-election, but how would they cope in a main government role.

Their main policy is get out of EU, what would they do regarding all other issues, it's one thing trying to gain votes based on one issue which many people are worried about, but could they handle the Economy etc.

I support UKIP for the Eastleigh election on the intention that it's only for 2 years

[quote][p][bold]David Scott[/bold] wrote:
There's only UKIP talking sense, if you ask me.[/p][/quote]UKIP are good for a local by-election, but how would they cope in a main government role.
Their main policy is get out of EU, what would they do regarding all other issues, it's one thing trying to gain votes based on one issue which many people are worried about, but could they handle the Economy etc.
I support UKIP for the Eastleigh election on the intention that it's only for 2 yearsIronLady2010

What sense are they talking other than EU immigration? I want to know what they would do for the economy etc.

[quote][p][bold]David Scott[/bold] wrote:
There's only UKIP talking sense, if you ask me.[/p][/quote]What sense are they talking other than EU immigration? I want to know what they would do for the economy etc.IronLady2010

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.southy

UKIP are good for a local by-election, but how would they cope in a main government role.

Their main policy is get out of EU, what would they do regarding all other issues, it's one thing trying to gain votes based on one issue which many people are worried about, but could they handle the Economy etc.

I support UKIP for the Eastleigh election on the intention that it's only for 2 years

UKIP don't have the man power to take control government to run a country, so they would need to go into coalition with other partys should they get to a stage of a very small minority government

[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]David Scott[/bold] wrote:
There's only UKIP talking sense, if you ask me.[/p][/quote]UKIP are good for a local by-election, but how would they cope in a main government role.
Their main policy is get out of EU, what would they do regarding all other issues, it's one thing trying to gain votes based on one issue which many people are worried about, but could they handle the Economy etc.
I support UKIP for the Eastleigh election on the intention that it's only for 2 years[/p][/quote]UKIP don't have the man power to take control government to run a country, so they would need to go into coalition with other partys should they get to a stage of a very small minority governmentsouthy

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

But didn’t you tell us less than 24 hours ago; ‘Right wing aka Capitalist Policys never do work for the majority of people, only for the few.’

So if ‘the majority of people’ are on your side and ‘only the few’ support the ‘right wing capitalist’ then surely it will be a doddle raising the funds you need, don’t you think?

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]But didn’t you tell us less than 24 hours ago; ‘Right wing aka Capitalist Policys never do work for the majority of people, only for the few.’
So if ‘the majority of people’ are on your side and ‘only the few’ support the ‘right wing capitalist’ then surely it will be a doddle raising the funds you need, don’t you think?freefinker

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

No Southy it is clearly dated on TUSC website when they announed a candidate, yet you argued all day they would not put forward a candidate.

I actually think TUSC don't tell you anything as they are embarassed by your input, but that's my opinion.

I can just see the TUSC poster for Eastleigh based on your own posts...... Bedroom Tax, you will all be taxed on bedrooms, The Council Tax will go directly to Central Government and they'll re-distribute.

I'm bored of typing, but if anyone wants to add......

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]No Southy it is clearly dated on TUSC website when they announed a candidate, yet you argued all day they would not put forward a candidate.
I actually think TUSC don't tell you anything as they are embarassed by your input, but that's my opinion.
I can just see the TUSC poster for Eastleigh based on your own posts...... Bedroom Tax, you will all be taxed on bedrooms, The Council Tax will go directly to Central Government and they'll re-distribute.
I'm bored of typing, but if anyone wants to add......IronLady2010

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.Stephen J

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

No Southy it is clearly dated on TUSC website when they announed a candidate, yet you argued all day they would not put forward a candidate.

I actually think TUSC don't tell you anything as they are embarassed by your input, but that's my opinion.

I can just see the TUSC poster for Eastleigh based on your own posts...... Bedroom Tax, you will all be taxed on bedrooms, The Council Tax will go directly to Central Government and they'll re-distribute.

I'm bored of typing, but if anyone wants to add......

.. er, privatising refuse collection will cost at least 26 times as much as council in-house.

They will apply an 'extra %' council tax to every adult (not in education).

Oh, the list is endless and now I'm bored of typing.

[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]No Southy it is clearly dated on TUSC website when they announed a candidate, yet you argued all day they would not put forward a candidate.
I actually think TUSC don't tell you anything as they are embarassed by your input, but that's my opinion.
I can just see the TUSC poster for Eastleigh based on your own posts...... Bedroom Tax, you will all be taxed on bedrooms, The Council Tax will go directly to Central Government and they'll re-distribute.
I'm bored of typing, but if anyone wants to add......[/p][/quote].. er, privatising refuse collection will cost at least 26 times as much as council in-house.
They will apply an 'extra %' council tax to every adult (not in education).
Oh, the list is endless and now I'm bored of typing.freefinker

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

But didn’t you tell us less than 24 hours ago; ‘Right wing aka Capitalist Policys never do work for the majority of people, only for the few.’

So if ‘the majority of people’ are on your side and ‘only the few’ support the ‘right wing capitalist’ then surely it will be a doddle raising the funds you need, don’t you think?

Take into account this Free, what are people use to, what have they only seen though out the Human Race history, That is Capitalism in many forms, and each one of them came to an end before a new form of capitalism came about, Capitalism as come to an end it can no longer function in a modern world. and where in history have capitalism been any different to what it is now just for the few.
What is needed is to get people to under stand and not be scare of change, Socialism is the policy for the majority it was design that way, but for socialism to work then it as to be applied by people like you me and others off the streets, thats what Socialism is all about ordinary people taking control.
We will get the funds, i had brought up the idea to start colletting now for next year on the stalls, have a pot just for elections.
but the problem people dont have the spare money to give like they use to 30 years ago, so that way not so easy

[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]But didn’t you tell us less than 24 hours ago; ‘Right wing aka Capitalist Policys never do work for the majority of people, only for the few.’
So if ‘the majority of people’ are on your side and ‘only the few’ support the ‘right wing capitalist’ then surely it will be a doddle raising the funds you need, don’t you think?[/p][/quote]Take into account this Free, what are people use to, what have they only seen though out the Human Race history, That is Capitalism in many forms, and each one of them came to an end before a new form of capitalism came about, Capitalism as come to an end it can no longer function in a modern world. and where in history have capitalism been any different to what it is now just for the few.
What is needed is to get people to under stand and not be scare of change, Socialism is the policy for the majority it was design that way, but for socialism to work then it as to be applied by people like you me and others off the streets, thats what Socialism is all about ordinary people taking control.
We will get the funds, i had brought up the idea to start colletting now for next year on the stalls, have a pot just for elections.
but the problem people dont have the spare money to give like they use to 30 years ago, so that way not so easysouthy

Southy that was posted hours ago, you need to get in with the right crowd!

.. yea, your right. Taking his own advice he should join a political party to 'be in the know' - but it would seem obviously not the inefficient TUSC/SP

[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
For the Echo
http://www.tusc.org.
uk/press080213.php[/p][/quote]Southy that was posted hours ago, you need to get in with the right crowd![/p][/quote].. yea, your right. Taking his own advice he should join a political party to 'be in the know' - but it would seem obviously not the inefficient TUSC/SPfreefinker

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

No Southy it is clearly dated on TUSC website when they announed a candidate, yet you argued all day they would not put forward a candidate.

I actually think TUSC don't tell you anything as they are embarassed by your input, but that's my opinion.

I can just see the TUSC poster for Eastleigh based on your own posts...... Bedroom Tax, you will all be taxed on bedrooms, The Council Tax will go directly to Central Government and they'll re-distribute.

I'm bored of typing, but if anyone wants to add......

I think you are very close to the truth. Being 'in the know' would have allowed Southy to add something along the lines of 'watch this space' to keep his options open but he categorically denied that his beloved party was standing because in truth, he isn't in the magic circle that make the decisions and he can only make a guess. No doubt this will be strenuously posted on in an attempt to extricate himself from the brown smelly stuff, again.

[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]No Southy it is clearly dated on TUSC website when they announed a candidate, yet you argued all day they would not put forward a candidate.
I actually think TUSC don't tell you anything as they are embarassed by your input, but that's my opinion.
I can just see the TUSC poster for Eastleigh based on your own posts...... Bedroom Tax, you will all be taxed on bedrooms, The Council Tax will go directly to Central Government and they'll re-distribute.
I'm bored of typing, but if anyone wants to add......[/p][/quote]I think you are very close to the truth. Being 'in the know' would have allowed Southy to add something along the lines of 'watch this space' to keep his options open but he categorically denied that his beloved party was standing because in truth, he isn't in the magic circle that make the decisions and he can only make a guess. No doubt this will be strenuously posted on in an attempt to extricate himself from the brown smelly stuff, again.Torchie1

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

But didn’t you tell us less than 24 hours ago; ‘Right wing aka Capitalist Policys never do work for the majority of people, only for the few.’

So if ‘the majority of people’ are on your side and ‘only the few’ support the ‘right wing capitalist’ then surely it will be a doddle raising the funds you need, don’t you think?

Take into account this Free, what are people use to, what have they only seen though out the Human Race history, That is Capitalism in many forms, and each one of them came to an end before a new form of capitalism came about, Capitalism as come to an end it can no longer function in a modern world. and where in history have capitalism been any different to what it is now just for the few.
What is needed is to get people to under stand and not be scare of change, Socialism is the policy for the majority it was design that way, but for socialism to work then it as to be applied by people like you me and others off the streets, thats what Socialism is all about ordinary people taking control.
We will get the funds, i had brought up the idea to start colletting now for next year on the stalls, have a pot just for elections.
but the problem people dont have the spare money to give like they use to 30 years ago, so that way not so easy

.. oh, I see. It’s all 'the peoples' fault for not understanding.

Yes, that's a good strategy; just tell then they're all thick, that should get TUSC some votes. You really don't have a clue, do you?

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]But didn’t you tell us less than 24 hours ago; ‘Right wing aka Capitalist Policys never do work for the majority of people, only for the few.’
So if ‘the majority of people’ are on your side and ‘only the few’ support the ‘right wing capitalist’ then surely it will be a doddle raising the funds you need, don’t you think?[/p][/quote]Take into account this Free, what are people use to, what have they only seen though out the Human Race history, That is Capitalism in many forms, and each one of them came to an end before a new form of capitalism came about, Capitalism as come to an end it can no longer function in a modern world. and where in history have capitalism been any different to what it is now just for the few.
What is needed is to get people to under stand and not be scare of change, Socialism is the policy for the majority it was design that way, but for socialism to work then it as to be applied by people like you me and others off the streets, thats what Socialism is all about ordinary people taking control.
We will get the funds, i had brought up the idea to start colletting now for next year on the stalls, have a pot just for elections.
but the problem people dont have the spare money to give like they use to 30 years ago, so that way not so easy[/p][/quote].. oh, I see. It’s all 'the peoples' fault for not understanding.
Yes, that's a good strategy; just tell then they're all thick, that should get TUSC some votes. You really don't have a clue, do you?freefinker

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

No Southy it is clearly dated on TUSC website when they announed a candidate, yet you argued all day they would not put forward a candidate.

I actually think TUSC don't tell you anything as they are embarassed by your input, but that's my opinion.

I can just see the TUSC poster for Eastleigh based on your own posts...... Bedroom Tax, you will all be taxed on bedrooms, The Council Tax will go directly to Central Government and they'll re-distribute.

I'm bored of typing, but if anyone wants to add......

I think you are very close to the truth. Being 'in the know' would have allowed Southy to add something along the lines of 'watch this space' to keep his options open but he categorically denied that his beloved party was standing because in truth, he isn't in the magic circle that make the decisions and he can only make a guess. No doubt this will be strenuously posted on in an attempt to extricate himself from the brown smelly stuff, again.

.. yep, quite agree. He's obviously not been undemocratically appointed to the TUSC/SP politburo. Not surprising really I suppose.

[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]No Southy it is clearly dated on TUSC website when they announed a candidate, yet you argued all day they would not put forward a candidate.
I actually think TUSC don't tell you anything as they are embarassed by your input, but that's my opinion.
I can just see the TUSC poster for Eastleigh based on your own posts...... Bedroom Tax, you will all be taxed on bedrooms, The Council Tax will go directly to Central Government and they'll re-distribute.
I'm bored of typing, but if anyone wants to add......[/p][/quote]I think you are very close to the truth. Being 'in the know' would have allowed Southy to add something along the lines of 'watch this space' to keep his options open but he categorically denied that his beloved party was standing because in truth, he isn't in the magic circle that make the decisions and he can only make a guess. No doubt this will be strenuously posted on in an attempt to extricate himself from the brown smelly stuff, again.[/p][/quote].. yep, quite agree. He's obviously not been undemocratically appointed to the TUSC/SP politburo. Not surprising really I suppose.freefinker

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

But didn’t you tell us less than 24 hours ago; ‘Right wing aka Capitalist Policys never do work for the majority of people, only for the few.’

So if ‘the majority of people’ are on your side and ‘only the few’ support the ‘right wing capitalist’ then surely it will be a doddle raising the funds you need, don’t you think?

Take into account this Free, what are people use to, what have they only seen though out the Human Race history, That is Capitalism in many forms, and each one of them came to an end before a new form of capitalism came about, Capitalism as come to an end it can no longer function in a modern world. and where in history have capitalism been any different to what it is now just for the few.
What is needed is to get people to under stand and not be scare of change, Socialism is the policy for the majority it was design that way, but for socialism to work then it as to be applied by people like you me and others off the streets, thats what Socialism is all about ordinary people taking control.
We will get the funds, i had brought up the idea to start colletting now for next year on the stalls, have a pot just for elections.
but the problem people dont have the spare money to give like they use to 30 years ago, so that way not so easy

"Socialism is the policy for the majority it was design that way,"...... but oddly enough no-one will vote for it.

"it as to be applied by people like you me and others off the streets" "is all about ordinary people taking control"........... in other words it can't be imposed by peaceful means so we'll have to resort to the old ways. See Stalin/Pol-Pot /Ceaucescu and other tyrants for hints and tips.
Same old,Same old.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]But didn’t you tell us less than 24 hours ago; ‘Right wing aka Capitalist Policys never do work for the majority of people, only for the few.’
So if ‘the majority of people’ are on your side and ‘only the few’ support the ‘right wing capitalist’ then surely it will be a doddle raising the funds you need, don’t you think?[/p][/quote]Take into account this Free, what are people use to, what have they only seen though out the Human Race history, That is Capitalism in many forms, and each one of them came to an end before a new form of capitalism came about, Capitalism as come to an end it can no longer function in a modern world. and where in history have capitalism been any different to what it is now just for the few.
What is needed is to get people to under stand and not be scare of change, Socialism is the policy for the majority it was design that way, but for socialism to work then it as to be applied by people like you me and others off the streets, thats what Socialism is all about ordinary people taking control.
We will get the funds, i had brought up the idea to start colletting now for next year on the stalls, have a pot just for elections.
but the problem people dont have the spare money to give like they use to 30 years ago, so that way not so easy[/p][/quote]"Socialism is the policy for the majority it was design that way,"...... but oddly enough no-one will vote for it.
"it as to be applied by people like you me and others off the streets" "is all about ordinary people taking control"........... in other words it can't be imposed by peaceful means so we'll have to resort to the old ways. See Stalin/Pol-Pot /Ceaucescu and other tyrants for hints and tips.
Same old,Same old.Torchie1

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.

Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.

[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.[/p][/quote]Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.southy

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

But didn’t you tell us less than 24 hours ago; ‘Right wing aka Capitalist Policys never do work for the majority of people, only for the few.’

So if ‘the majority of people’ are on your side and ‘only the few’ support the ‘right wing capitalist’ then surely it will be a doddle raising the funds you need, don’t you think?

Take into account this Free, what are people use to, what have they only seen though out the Human Race history, That is Capitalism in many forms, and each one of them came to an end before a new form of capitalism came about, Capitalism as come to an end it can no longer function in a modern world. and where in history have capitalism been any different to what it is now just for the few.
What is needed is to get people to under stand and not be scare of change, Socialism is the policy for the majority it was design that way, but for socialism to work then it as to be applied by people like you me and others off the streets, thats what Socialism is all about ordinary people taking control.
We will get the funds, i had brought up the idea to start colletting now for next year on the stalls, have a pot just for elections.
but the problem people dont have the spare money to give like they use to 30 years ago, so that way not so easy

&quot;Socialism is the policy for the majority it was design that way,"...... but oddly enough no-one will vote for it.

"it as to be applied by people like you me and others off the streets" "is all about ordinary people taking control"........... in other words it can't be imposed by peaceful means so we'll have to resort to the old ways. See Stalin/Pol-Pot /Ceaucescu and other tyrants for hints and tips.
Same old,Same old.

No Free thats your way of thinking, it can be done peacefully when it is allowed to.
You say see Stalin ect but they was not Socialist but Capitalist.
Look at Lenin and the 10 day Oct 1917 Revolution (Stalin played no part he was at the time on the opposite sides to Lenin). The Oct Revolution only 1 person died (he was a Red Revolutionist) and 3 people injured (2 of which was Red Revolutionist) that was very close to being a peaceful revolution, But you take the same year 1917 but in the spring The Provincialist Republican Revolution that was very bloody (Stalin was involved in this one).
Now days its done though the ballot box, at the moment people are not voting for it is right thats because of Capitalism and there false propaganda about Socialism and people don't really under stand it yet, but give it time and they will, what we need is a country that can apply Socialism the way it is ment to be, as a show case, Socialism up to date as only been applied by capitalist and that just turns out to be another form of capitalism, 1 type of capitalism that is the most fairest of all Capitalism is State Capitalism the kind that we had here in the uk, but you do have to be careful with that one it can easy change into Capitalist Communism,

[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]But didn’t you tell us less than 24 hours ago; ‘Right wing aka Capitalist Policys never do work for the majority of people, only for the few.’
So if ‘the majority of people’ are on your side and ‘only the few’ support the ‘right wing capitalist’ then surely it will be a doddle raising the funds you need, don’t you think?[/p][/quote]Take into account this Free, what are people use to, what have they only seen though out the Human Race history, That is Capitalism in many forms, and each one of them came to an end before a new form of capitalism came about, Capitalism as come to an end it can no longer function in a modern world. and where in history have capitalism been any different to what it is now just for the few.
What is needed is to get people to under stand and not be scare of change, Socialism is the policy for the majority it was design that way, but for socialism to work then it as to be applied by people like you me and others off the streets, thats what Socialism is all about ordinary people taking control.
We will get the funds, i had brought up the idea to start colletting now for next year on the stalls, have a pot just for elections.
but the problem people dont have the spare money to give like they use to 30 years ago, so that way not so easy[/p][/quote]"Socialism is the policy for the majority it was design that way,"...... but oddly enough no-one will vote for it.
"it as to be applied by people like you me and others off the streets" "is all about ordinary people taking control"........... in other words it can't be imposed by peaceful means so we'll have to resort to the old ways. See Stalin/Pol-Pot /Ceaucescu and other tyrants for hints and tips.
Same old,Same old.[/p][/quote]No Free thats your way of thinking, it can be done peacefully when it is allowed to.
You say see Stalin ect but they was not Socialist but Capitalist.
Look at Lenin and the 10 day Oct 1917 Revolution (Stalin played no part he was at the time on the opposite sides to Lenin). The Oct Revolution only 1 person died (he was a Red Revolutionist) and 3 people injured (2 of which was Red Revolutionist) that was very close to being a peaceful revolution, But you take the same year 1917 but in the spring The Provincialist Republican Revolution that was very bloody (Stalin was involved in this one).
Now days its done though the ballot box, at the moment people are not voting for it is right thats because of Capitalism and there false propaganda about Socialism and people don't really under stand it yet, but give it time and they will, what we need is a country that can apply Socialism the way it is ment to be, as a show case, Socialism up to date as only been applied by capitalist and that just turns out to be another form of capitalism, 1 type of capitalism that is the most fairest of all Capitalism is State Capitalism the kind that we had here in the uk, but you do have to be careful with that one it can easy change into Capitalist Communism,southy

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

No Southy it is clearly dated on TUSC website when they announed a candidate, yet you argued all day they would not put forward a candidate.

I actually think TUSC don't tell you anything as they are embarassed by your input, but that's my opinion.

I can just see the TUSC poster for Eastleigh based on your own posts...... Bedroom Tax, you will all be taxed on bedrooms, The Council Tax will go directly to Central Government and they'll re-distribute.

I'm bored of typing, but if anyone wants to add......

I think you are very close to the truth. Being 'in the know' would have allowed Southy to add something along the lines of 'watch this space' to keep his options open but he categorically denied that his beloved party was standing because in truth, he isn't in the magic circle that make the decisions and he can only make a guess. No doubt this will be strenuously posted on in an attempt to extricate himself from the brown smelly stuff, again.

.. yep, quite agree. He's obviously not been undemocratically appointed to the TUSC/SP politburo. Not surprising really I suppose.

It was posted up early sat morning 9th, and dated the 8th which was friday, the meeting was on friday evening 8th and did not finish till late, then they would of needed to contact the steering committee before it was posted, i got an e-mail just before it was posted on the news sheet telling me the result, but I was all ready in bed

[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]No Southy it is clearly dated on TUSC website when they announed a candidate, yet you argued all day they would not put forward a candidate.
I actually think TUSC don't tell you anything as they are embarassed by your input, but that's my opinion.
I can just see the TUSC poster for Eastleigh based on your own posts...... Bedroom Tax, you will all be taxed on bedrooms, The Council Tax will go directly to Central Government and they'll re-distribute.
I'm bored of typing, but if anyone wants to add......[/p][/quote]I think you are very close to the truth. Being 'in the know' would have allowed Southy to add something along the lines of 'watch this space' to keep his options open but he categorically denied that his beloved party was standing because in truth, he isn't in the magic circle that make the decisions and he can only make a guess. No doubt this will be strenuously posted on in an attempt to extricate himself from the brown smelly stuff, again.[/p][/quote].. yep, quite agree. He's obviously not been undemocratically appointed to the TUSC/SP politburo. Not surprising really I suppose.[/p][/quote]It was posted up early sat morning 9th, and dated the 8th which was friday, the meeting was on friday evening 8th and did not finish till late, then they would of needed to contact the steering committee before it was posted, i got an e-mail just before it was posted on the news sheet telling me the result, but I was all ready in bedsouthy

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.

Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.

So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.[/p][/quote]Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.[/p][/quote]So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...Stephen J

I hope the voters vote for the Tory candidate.
if they say they can't vote Tory but no longer want to vote Liberal but want to put in a protest vote well vote UKIP.
If Scotland vote for independence the name United Kingdom independence party will have to change their name .
Listening to Nigel faragh there's much more to UKIP than just getting out of the EU.
Ironlady go to their web site & look up their manifesto.
I hope people just don't vote Liberal to keep out the Tories as surely Liberals are now a proven liability aren't they?

I hope the voters vote for the Tory candidate.
if they say they can't vote Tory but no longer want to vote Liberal but want to put in a protest vote well vote UKIP.
If Scotland vote for independence the name United Kingdom independence party will have to change their name .
Listening to Nigel faragh there's much more to UKIP than just getting out of the EU.
Ironlady go to their web site & look up their manifesto.
I hope people just don't vote Liberal to keep out the Tories as surely Liberals are now a proven liability aren't they?loosehead

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
And before I sign out.
I wish the Chineese a Happy and Successful and Prosperous New Year[/p][/quote]Totally Useless Suicidal Con Party ain't got a chance of winning naff all !loosehead

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.

Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.

So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...

.. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.

His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.

So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.

[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.[/p][/quote]Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.[/p][/quote]So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...[/p][/quote].. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.
His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.
So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.freefinker

[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
And before I sign out.
I wish the Chineese a Happy and Successful and Prosperous New Year[/p][/quote]Totally Useless Suicidal Con Party ain't got a chance of winning naff all ![/p][/quote]Trotskyists.
Utilising.
Socialist.
Camouflage.freefinker

What sense are they talking other than EU immigration? I want to know what they would do for the economy etc.

UKIP have policies on more than just EU and immigration - have a look at their website http://www.ukip.org/
content/ukip-policie
s

[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]David Scott[/bold] wrote:
There's only UKIP talking sense, if you ask me.[/p][/quote]What sense are they talking other than EU immigration? I want to know what they would do for the economy etc.[/p][/quote]UKIP have policies on more than just EU and immigration - have a look at their website http://www.ukip.org/
content/ukip-policie
sMarkR1

Why the change of heart Loose, can you see now what the Torys really stand for. mind you the Torys are the lesser of the evils when you just talk about Torys and UKIP, be very careful of UKIP they more right wing than the Torys and being very close to the BNP

[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
And before I sign out.
I wish the Chineese a Happy and Successful and Prosperous New Year[/p][/quote]Totally Useless Suicidal Con Party ain't got a chance of winning naff all ![/p][/quote]Why the change of heart Loose, can you see now what the Torys really stand for. mind you the Torys are the lesser of the evils when you just talk about Torys and UKIP, be very careful of UKIP they more right wing than the Torys and being very close to the BNPsouthy

netley020 wrote:
Why on earth would anybody vote for the liberal democrats,their leader is a joke whose only claim to fame is sleeping with a considerable amount of women,Chris Hulne is a despicable waste of timme,he cost the tax payer £100,000 because he continually pleaded not guilty to an offence which everybody in the countrty knew he committed (except for that plank of a leader Nick Clegg)not only did Hulne break the law and lie about it he decided to buy an I Pad on expenses a few weeks ago knowing that he was about to resign as an MP because he could not get his very expensive legal team to find a loophole to get him off the hook.You cannot trust the bearded sandal brigade,they always let people down,there is no point commenting on Labour,when in power they always ruin the country.

Chris Hugne =Bearded Sandal Brigade? What planet are you on? All parties have bad apples - or do you not remember why Lib Dems got into Eastleigh instead of the Tories in the first place? In case you haven't noticed Chris Hugne isn't up for election, an experienced and worthy ward councillor is. Why would anyone vote for the Tories? If it wasn't for the LibDems forcing curbs on the Tories right wing exploit the poor to make our friends rich policies this country would be in a far worse state then it is.

[quote][p][bold]netley020[/bold] wrote:
Why on earth would anybody vote for the liberal democrats,their leader is a joke whose only claim to fame is sleeping with a considerable amount of women,Chris Hulne is a despicable waste of timme,he cost the tax payer £100,000 because he continually pleaded not guilty to an offence which everybody in the countrty knew he committed (except for that plank of a leader Nick Clegg)not only did Hulne break the law and lie about it he decided to buy an I Pad on expenses a few weeks ago knowing that he was about to resign as an MP because he could not get his very expensive legal team to find a loophole to get him off the hook.You cannot trust the bearded sandal brigade,they always let people down,there is no point commenting on Labour,when in power they always ruin the country.[/p][/quote]Chris Hugne =Bearded Sandal Brigade? What planet are you on? All parties have bad apples - or do you not remember why Lib Dems got into Eastleigh instead of the Tories in the first place? In case you haven't noticed Chris Hugne isn't up for election, an experienced and worthy ward councillor is. Why would anyone vote for the Tories? If it wasn't for the LibDems forcing curbs on the Tories right wing exploit the poor to make our friends rich policies this country would be in a far worse state then it is.Markmag

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.

Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.

So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...

.. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.

His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.

So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.

No Free wrong again, my printer was built by Capitalism and why it is broken down, Capitalism don't like things to last they want the throw away society so they can make bigger and larger profits from the public.
Stephen J its not broken it needs maintence work done on it before being used again, its not had any for 2 years and is beginning to show signs that maintence work needs to be done.
IT still Prints at the same speed, it still prints inconjuction with scan, pc, fax and though the phone line modem.
It just needs maintence done before being used again.

[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.[/p][/quote]Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.[/p][/quote]So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...[/p][/quote].. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.
His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.
So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.[/p][/quote]No Free wrong again, my printer was built by Capitalism and why it is broken down, Capitalism don't like things to last they want the throw away society so they can make bigger and larger profits from the public.
Stephen J its not broken it needs maintence work done on it before being used again, its not had any for 2 years and is beginning to show signs that maintence work needs to be done.
IT still Prints at the same speed, it still prints inconjuction with scan, pc, fax and though the phone line modem.
It just needs maintence done before being used again.southy

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.

Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.

So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...

.. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.

His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.

So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.

No Free wrong again, my printer was built by Capitalism and why it is broken down, Capitalism don't like things to last they want the throw away society so they can make bigger and larger profits from the public.
Stephen J its not broken it needs maintence work done on it before being used again, its not had any for 2 years and is beginning to show signs that maintence work needs to be done.
IT still Prints at the same speed, it still prints inconjuction with scan, pc, fax and though the phone line modem.
It just needs maintence done before being used again.

.. oh dear, you bought a 'capitalist printer'?

Why, only a few weeks ago you gave us a list of countries where 'democratic socialism' was being attempted. Could you not have bought a 'socialist printer' from, say, Cuba or Vietnam? - both of which were on your list.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.[/p][/quote]Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.[/p][/quote]So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...[/p][/quote].. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.
His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.
So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.[/p][/quote]No Free wrong again, my printer was built by Capitalism and why it is broken down, Capitalism don't like things to last they want the throw away society so they can make bigger and larger profits from the public.
Stephen J its not broken it needs maintence work done on it before being used again, its not had any for 2 years and is beginning to show signs that maintence work needs to be done.
IT still Prints at the same speed, it still prints inconjuction with scan, pc, fax and though the phone line modem.
It just needs maintence done before being used again.[/p][/quote].. oh dear, you bought a 'capitalist printer'?
Why, only a few weeks ago you gave us a list of countries where 'democratic socialism' was being attempted. Could you not have bought a 'socialist printer' from, say, Cuba or Vietnam? - both of which were on your list.freefinker

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.

Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.

So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...

.. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.

His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.

So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.

No Free wrong again, my printer was built by Capitalism and why it is broken down, Capitalism don't like things to last they want the throw away society so they can make bigger and larger profits from the public.
Stephen J its not broken it needs maintence work done on it before being used again, its not had any for 2 years and is beginning to show signs that maintence work needs to be done.
IT still Prints at the same speed, it still prints inconjuction with scan, pc, fax and though the phone line modem.
It just needs maintence done before being used again.

You can't print with them but under communism they could only dream of getting on the list for a Zil or a Lada or perhaps a Trabant. Skoda only survived because of 'capitalist' Volkswagen taking them over. Over here the 'must have' items are all produced under the 'capitalist system' and the garbage that made it out of the old communist factories went in to landfill many years ago. The only thing that was invested in behind the Iron Curtain was the military force to keep control of the population and offer solace to a paranoid leadership.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.[/p][/quote]Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.[/p][/quote]So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...[/p][/quote].. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.
His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.
So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.[/p][/quote]No Free wrong again, my printer was built by Capitalism and why it is broken down, Capitalism don't like things to last they want the throw away society so they can make bigger and larger profits from the public.
Stephen J its not broken it needs maintence work done on it before being used again, its not had any for 2 years and is beginning to show signs that maintence work needs to be done.
IT still Prints at the same speed, it still prints inconjuction with scan, pc, fax and though the phone line modem.
It just needs maintence done before being used again.[/p][/quote]You can't print with them but under communism they could only dream of getting on the list for a Zil or a Lada or perhaps a Trabant. Skoda only survived because of 'capitalist' Volkswagen taking them over. Over here the 'must have' items are all produced under the 'capitalist system' and the garbage that made it out of the old communist factories went in to landfill many years ago. The only thing that was invested in behind the Iron Curtain was the military force to keep control of the population and offer solace to a paranoid leadership.Torchie1

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.

Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.

So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...

.. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.

His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.

So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.

No Free wrong again, my printer was built by Capitalism and why it is broken down, Capitalism don't like things to last they want the throw away society so they can make bigger and larger profits from the public.
Stephen J its not broken it needs maintence work done on it before being used again, its not had any for 2 years and is beginning to show signs that maintence work needs to be done.
IT still Prints at the same speed, it still prints inconjuction with scan, pc, fax and though the phone line modem.
It just needs maintence done before being used again.

"It's not broken, but at the moment it can't be put to any practical use."

Of course, if we lived under the political system you advocate, neither you nor anyone else would actually be allowed a printer, certainly not one like yours.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.[/p][/quote]Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.[/p][/quote]So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...[/p][/quote].. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.
His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.
So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.[/p][/quote]No Free wrong again, my printer was built by Capitalism and why it is broken down, Capitalism don't like things to last they want the throw away society so they can make bigger and larger profits from the public.
Stephen J its not broken it needs maintence work done on it before being used again, its not had any for 2 years and is beginning to show signs that maintence work needs to be done.
IT still Prints at the same speed, it still prints inconjuction with scan, pc, fax and though the phone line modem.
It just needs maintence done before being used again.[/p][/quote]"It's not broken, but at the moment it can't be put to any practical use."
Of course, if we lived under the political system you advocate, neither you nor anyone else would actually be allowed a printer, certainly not one like yours.Stephen J

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.

Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.

So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...

.. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.

His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.

So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.

No Free wrong again, my printer was built by Capitalism and why it is broken down, Capitalism don't like things to last they want the throw away society so they can make bigger and larger profits from the public.
Stephen J its not broken it needs maintence work done on it before being used again, its not had any for 2 years and is beginning to show signs that maintence work needs to be done.
IT still Prints at the same speed, it still prints inconjuction with scan, pc, fax and though the phone line modem.
It just needs maintence done before being used again.

You talk some sh1t but seriously this takes it to a new level

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.[/p][/quote]Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.[/p][/quote]So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...[/p][/quote].. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.
His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.
So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.[/p][/quote]No Free wrong again, my printer was built by Capitalism and why it is broken down, Capitalism don't like things to last they want the throw away society so they can make bigger and larger profits from the public.
Stephen J its not broken it needs maintence work done on it before being used again, its not had any for 2 years and is beginning to show signs that maintence work needs to be done.
IT still Prints at the same speed, it still prints inconjuction with scan, pc, fax and though the phone line modem.
It just needs maintence done before being used again.[/p][/quote]You talk some sh1t but seriously this takes it to a new levelkingnotail

netley020 wrote:
Why on earth would anybody vote for the liberal democrats,their leader is a joke whose only claim to fame is sleeping with a considerable amount of women,Chris Hulne is a despicable waste of timme,he cost the tax payer £100,000 because he continually pleaded not guilty to an offence which everybody in the countrty knew he committed (except for that plank of a leader Nick Clegg)not only did Hulne break the law and lie about it he decided to buy an I Pad on expenses a few weeks ago knowing that he was about to resign as an MP because he could not get his very expensive legal team to find a loophole to get him off the hook.You cannot trust the bearded sandal brigade,they always let people down,there is no point commenting on Labour,when in power they always ruin the country.

Like C'moron is now.

[quote][p][bold]netley020[/bold] wrote:
Why on earth would anybody vote for the liberal democrats,their leader is a joke whose only claim to fame is sleeping with a considerable amount of women,Chris Hulne is a despicable waste of timme,he cost the tax payer £100,000 because he continually pleaded not guilty to an offence which everybody in the countrty knew he committed (except for that plank of a leader Nick Clegg)not only did Hulne break the law and lie about it he decided to buy an I Pad on expenses a few weeks ago knowing that he was about to resign as an MP because he could not get his very expensive legal team to find a loophole to get him off the hook.You cannot trust the bearded sandal brigade,they always let people down,there is no point commenting on Labour,when in power they always ruin the country.[/p][/quote]Like C'moron is now.Inform Al

Why the change of heart Loose, can you see now what the Torys really stand for. mind you the Torys are the lesser of the evils when you just talk about Torys and UKIP, be very careful of UKIP they more right wing than the Torys and being very close to the BNP

Now I know you talk total cr4p. Associating the only party in the land that wants to give the electorate what they need and want with the extreme right wing is not just disengenuous, it's a downright lie, As the only party prepared to listen to the majority and do what they want they are probably the only truly socialist party in the land.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
And before I sign out.
I wish the Chineese a Happy and Successful and Prosperous New Year[/p][/quote]Totally Useless Suicidal Con Party ain't got a chance of winning naff all ![/p][/quote]Why the change of heart Loose, can you see now what the Torys really stand for. mind you the Torys are the lesser of the evils when you just talk about Torys and UKIP, be very careful of UKIP they more right wing than the Torys and being very close to the BNP[/p][/quote]Now I know you talk total cr4p. Associating the only party in the land that wants to give the electorate what they need and want with the extreme right wing is not just disengenuous, it's a downright lie, As the only party prepared to listen to the majority and do what they want they are probably the only truly socialist party in the land.Inform Al

UKIP has only one policy on offer that is the same in every constituency.

[quote][p][bold]David Scott[/bold] wrote:
There's only UKIP talking sense, if you ask me.[/p][/quote]With such a comment, I doubt that many will bother asking you.
UKIP has only one policy on offer that is the same in every constituency.Linesman

Before voting lib dem in Eastleigh, I suggest people study the lib dems local plan - It's the longest suicide note ever written for a town. But if you want the population of Eastleigh to double and for the town to turn into the poor mans Basingstoke - then go ahead...say goodbye to Boorley green and Stoneham park amongst others...
Local issues aren't getting a look in, because the media circus are setting the agenda....roll up roll up, watch the coalition partners fight it out for your entertainment...

Before voting lib dem in Eastleigh, I suggest people study the lib dems local plan - It's the longest suicide note ever written for a town. But if you want the population of Eastleigh to double and for the town to turn into the poor mans Basingstoke - then go ahead...say goodbye to Boorley green and Stoneham park amongst others...
Local issues aren't getting a look in, because the media circus are setting the agenda....roll up roll up, watch the coalition partners fight it out for your entertainment...stuartjebbitt

Why the change of heart Loose, can you see now what the Torys really stand for. mind you the Torys are the lesser of the evils when you just talk about Torys and UKIP, be very careful of UKIP they more right wing than the Torys and being very close to the BNP

Now I know you talk total cr4p. Associating the only party in the land that wants to give the electorate what they need and want with the extreme right wing is not just disengenuous, it's a downright lie, As the only party prepared to listen to the majority and do what they want they are probably the only truly socialist party in the land.

Its not a lie, read there manifest, they are far right wing very close to being the same as the BNP.
And what is it the Electorate needs the only thing they have on offer is the EU vote, and news to you UKIP are not the only ones offering that at the moment TUSC is also.
UKIP is a party of the few they are a Capitalist Party with far right wing agenda policy, but like all right wing partys they need the working class vote, so they need to sell a lie to the working class to pick up votes, just the same as any Capitalist supporting party with out there vote they don't gain power.

[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
And before I sign out.
I wish the Chineese a Happy and Successful and Prosperous New Year[/p][/quote]Totally Useless Suicidal Con Party ain't got a chance of winning naff all ![/p][/quote]Why the change of heart Loose, can you see now what the Torys really stand for. mind you the Torys are the lesser of the evils when you just talk about Torys and UKIP, be very careful of UKIP they more right wing than the Torys and being very close to the BNP[/p][/quote]Now I know you talk total cr4p. Associating the only party in the land that wants to give the electorate what they need and want with the extreme right wing is not just disengenuous, it's a downright lie, As the only party prepared to listen to the majority and do what they want they are probably the only truly socialist party in the land.[/p][/quote]Its not a lie, read there manifest, they are far right wing very close to being the same as the BNP.
And what is it the Electorate needs the only thing they have on offer is the EU vote, and news to you UKIP are not the only ones offering that at the moment TUSC is also.
UKIP is a party of the few they are a Capitalist Party with far right wing agenda policy, but like all right wing partys they need the working class vote, so they need to sell a lie to the working class to pick up votes, just the same as any Capitalist supporting party with out there vote they don't gain power.southy

Why the change of heart Loose, can you see now what the Torys really stand for. mind you the Torys are the lesser of the evils when you just talk about Torys and UKIP, be very careful of UKIP they more right wing than the Torys and being very close to the BNP

i'm still a Tory but was saying it would be better to vote UKIP than Liberal

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
And before I sign out.
I wish the Chineese a Happy and Successful and Prosperous New Year[/p][/quote]Totally Useless Suicidal Con Party ain't got a chance of winning naff all ![/p][/quote]Why the change of heart Loose, can you see now what the Torys really stand for. mind you the Torys are the lesser of the evils when you just talk about Torys and UKIP, be very careful of UKIP they more right wing than the Torys and being very close to the BNP[/p][/quote]i'm still a Tory but was saying it would be better to vote UKIP than Liberalloosehead

Why the change of heart Loose, can you see now what the Torys really stand for. mind you the Torys are the lesser of the evils when you just talk about Torys and UKIP, be very careful of UKIP they more right wing than the Torys and being very close to the BNP

Now I know you talk total cr4p. Associating the only party in the land that wants to give the electorate what they need and want with the extreme right wing is not just disengenuous, it's a downright lie, As the only party prepared to listen to the majority and do what they want they are probably the only truly socialist party in the land.

Its not a lie, read there manifest, they are far right wing very close to being the same as the BNP.
And what is it the Electorate needs the only thing they have on offer is the EU vote, and news to you UKIP are not the only ones offering that at the moment TUSC is also.
UKIP is a party of the few they are a Capitalist Party with far right wing agenda policy, but like all right wing partys they need the working class vote, so they need to sell a lie to the working class to pick up votes, just the same as any Capitalist supporting party with out there vote they don't gain power.

.. there you go again, telling the 'working class' (what a quaint and out of date phrase) they are thick and gullible.

My experience is the vast majority of the UK’s population are fully aware of what is offered by all parties across the entire the political spectrum. They vote for them accordingly.

Ironically, I do find that many members of cult-like far left parties are very gullible to indoctrination and often repeat, almost parrot fashion, the same old nonsense over and over again.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
And before I sign out.
I wish the Chineese a Happy and Successful and Prosperous New Year[/p][/quote]Totally Useless Suicidal Con Party ain't got a chance of winning naff all ![/p][/quote]Why the change of heart Loose, can you see now what the Torys really stand for. mind you the Torys are the lesser of the evils when you just talk about Torys and UKIP, be very careful of UKIP they more right wing than the Torys and being very close to the BNP[/p][/quote]Now I know you talk total cr4p. Associating the only party in the land that wants to give the electorate what they need and want with the extreme right wing is not just disengenuous, it's a downright lie, As the only party prepared to listen to the majority and do what they want they are probably the only truly socialist party in the land.[/p][/quote]Its not a lie, read there manifest, they are far right wing very close to being the same as the BNP.
And what is it the Electorate needs the only thing they have on offer is the EU vote, and news to you UKIP are not the only ones offering that at the moment TUSC is also.
UKIP is a party of the few they are a Capitalist Party with far right wing agenda policy, but like all right wing partys they need the working class vote, so they need to sell a lie to the working class to pick up votes, just the same as any Capitalist supporting party with out there vote they don't gain power.[/p][/quote].. there you go again, telling the 'working class' (what a quaint and out of date phrase) they are thick and gullible.
My experience is the vast majority of the UK’s population are fully aware of what is offered by all parties across the entire the political spectrum. They vote for them accordingly.
Ironically, I do find that many members of cult-like far left parties are very gullible to indoctrination and often repeat, almost parrot fashion, the same old nonsense over and over again.freefinker

Why the change of heart Loose, can you see now what the Torys really stand for. mind you the Torys are the lesser of the evils when you just talk about Torys and UKIP, be very careful of UKIP they more right wing than the Torys and being very close to the BNP

Now I know you talk total cr4p. Associating the only party in the land that wants to give the electorate what they need and want with the extreme right wing is not just disengenuous, it's a downright lie, As the only party prepared to listen to the majority and do what they want they are probably the only truly socialist party in the land.

Its not a lie, read there manifest, they are far right wing very close to being the same as the BNP.
And what is it the Electorate needs the only thing they have on offer is the EU vote, and news to you UKIP are not the only ones offering that at the moment TUSC is also.
UKIP is a party of the few they are a Capitalist Party with far right wing agenda policy, but like all right wing partys they need the working class vote, so they need to sell a lie to the working class to pick up votes, just the same as any Capitalist supporting party with out there vote they don't gain power.

I have read their manifesto, somehow I doubt that you have.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
And before I sign out.
I wish the Chineese a Happy and Successful and Prosperous New Year[/p][/quote]Totally Useless Suicidal Con Party ain't got a chance of winning naff all ![/p][/quote]Why the change of heart Loose, can you see now what the Torys really stand for. mind you the Torys are the lesser of the evils when you just talk about Torys and UKIP, be very careful of UKIP they more right wing than the Torys and being very close to the BNP[/p][/quote]Now I know you talk total cr4p. Associating the only party in the land that wants to give the electorate what they need and want with the extreme right wing is not just disengenuous, it's a downright lie, As the only party prepared to listen to the majority and do what they want they are probably the only truly socialist party in the land.[/p][/quote]Its not a lie, read there manifest, they are far right wing very close to being the same as the BNP.
And what is it the Electorate needs the only thing they have on offer is the EU vote, and news to you UKIP are not the only ones offering that at the moment TUSC is also.
UKIP is a party of the few they are a Capitalist Party with far right wing agenda policy, but like all right wing partys they need the working class vote, so they need to sell a lie to the working class to pick up votes, just the same as any Capitalist supporting party with out there vote they don't gain power.[/p][/quote]I have read their manifesto, somehow I doubt that you have.Inform Al

ukip may have only one agenda but its an agenda everyone wants so that in itself is enough. Eastleigh should be twinned with poland to save money even the unemployed man selling the big issue is polish

ukip may have only one agenda but its an agenda everyone wants so that in itself is enough. Eastleigh should be twinned with poland to save money even the unemployed man selling the big issue is polishSaintM

SaintM wrote:
ukip may have only one agenda but its an agenda everyone wants so that in itself is enough. Eastleigh should be twinned with poland to save money even the unemployed man selling the big issue is polish

.. don't you include me in this 'everyone' - I certainly don't want the UKIP agenda.

And how would this twinning save money?

[quote][p][bold]SaintM[/bold] wrote:
ukip may have only one agenda but its an agenda everyone wants so that in itself is enough. Eastleigh should be twinned with poland to save money even the unemployed man selling the big issue is polish[/p][/quote].. don't you include me in this 'everyone' - I certainly don't want the UKIP agenda.
And how would this twinning save money?freefinker

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.

You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.

Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.

So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...

.. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.

His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.

So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.

No Free wrong again, my printer was built by Capitalism and why it is broken down, Capitalism don't like things to last they want the throw away society so they can make bigger and larger profits from the public.
Stephen J its not broken it needs maintence work done on it before being used again, its not had any for 2 years and is beginning to show signs that maintence work needs to be done.
IT still Prints at the same speed, it still prints inconjuction with scan, pc, fax and though the phone line modem.
It just needs maintence done before being used again.

Oh Dear. I guess it's true what they say - nutters are always the last to know they are nutters.

[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Stephen J[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]As it was only finally decided very late last night (Fri), a suggestion did go forward the day before, and only formally declaired today (Sat), and will be offical on Mon, Do that answer your question IronLady.
And now we have to raise the funds that are needed to run a campaigne. Thats not going to be easy, and my printer needs maintaince work on it before it can be used.[/p][/quote]You asserted on many occasions that not only was it impossible for the TUSC to stand, but it was also impossible for any minor party to stand. On both counts, clearly wrong. And your printer? Doing volume printing on your printer will be far more expensive than getting it done commercially.[/p][/quote]Its a lot cheaper doing it on my printer, and theres no waiting, Stephen I have a Ricoh colour printer that can print both sides the same time, A3 1 per second, and at 44% of one colour it will do 100,000 sheets before running out of that colour, it as a 10,000 sheets compact draws, it can also take card, using my printer is 1/3 of the cost than getting done commerically, only problem is parts have come from the USA.
I only said that on Wed that we could stand up to fri morning, I had put foreward for us to stand in this by-election but was told on Wed we could not, a short notice meeting was call on friday, and it was decided we would then, it was confirm to me on early hours on sat, but it not offical till mon when it will be registered in.[/p][/quote]So you have a fantastic piece of kit that you proudly claim can deliver this, that and the other in next to no time, at a fraction of what the private sector charges. Except it's broken and so can't actually deliver anything at all. Oh, the irony...[/p][/quote].. you beat me to it; was a perfect own goal.
His printer debacle is indeed a perfect parody of Trotskyism; theoretically utopian, but practically unworkable.
So TUSC puts itself up for electoral scrutiny; glad to hear it. We will soon have further confirmation of their irrelevance.[/p][/quote]No Free wrong again, my printer was built by Capitalism and why it is broken down, Capitalism don't like things to last they want the throw away society so they can make bigger and larger profits from the public.
Stephen J its not broken it needs maintence work done on it before being used again, its not had any for 2 years and is beginning to show signs that maintence work needs to be done.
IT still Prints at the same speed, it still prints inconjuction with scan, pc, fax and though the phone line modem.
It just needs maintence done before being used again.[/p][/quote]Oh Dear. I guess it's true what they say - nutters are always the last to know they are nutters.Shoong

you had Plaid Cymri leader & some chosen Welsh voters saying they wanted to stay in the EU because of the money wales gets from the EU we have the SNP saying the same?
They seem to forget we that is the whole of the UK put in £14billion to the EU do we get that back each year?
they say they want independence but aren't they being hypocritical?
what independence whilst in the EU?
The LibDems cry for closer integration & want to go further into the EU I can't believe the disillusioned tory voters or the old Labour supporters voted for them because they agree with that piolicy.
It has been a protest vote by some Tories & a keep out the Tory's vote by Labour supporters.
with Huhne's revelations how can anyone justify voting Lib Dem?
I don't live in Eastleigh & I won't be voting in the by election but it's up to them I was just giving them an idea.
since UKIP have started to do well the stance on the EU by Labour & the Tory party's has changed now both agree with a renegotiation of our powers back to us.
If Scotland vote to leave the Union then the vote to leave the EU will be very close as it was the Scottish vote that swung it for the Yes camp last time .
I hope the Eastleigh voter chooses wisely & I for one will say no more on who you should vote for

you had Plaid Cymri leader & some chosen Welsh voters saying they wanted to stay in the EU because of the money wales gets from the EU we have the SNP saying the same?
They seem to forget we that is the whole of the UK put in £14billion to the EU do we get that back each year?
they say they want independence but aren't they being hypocritical?
what independence whilst in the EU?
The LibDems cry for closer integration & want to go further into the EU I can't believe the disillusioned tory voters or the old Labour supporters voted for them because they agree with that piolicy.
It has been a protest vote by some Tories & a keep out the Tory's vote by Labour supporters.
with Huhne's revelations how can anyone justify voting Lib Dem?
I don't live in Eastleigh & I won't be voting in the by election but it's up to them I was just giving them an idea.
since UKIP have started to do well the stance on the EU by Labour & the Tory party's has changed now both agree with a renegotiation of our powers back to us.
If Scotland vote to leave the Union then the vote to leave the EU will be very close as it was the Scottish vote that swung it for the Yes camp last time .
I hope the Eastleigh voter chooses wisely & I for one will say no more on who you should vote forloosehead

UKIP are good for a local by-election, but how would they cope in a main government role.

Their main policy is get out of EU, what would they do regarding all other issues, it's one thing trying to gain votes based on one issue which many people are worried about, but could they handle the Economy etc.

I support UKIP for the Eastleigh election on the intention that it's only for 2 years

If they could win a seat it could change all parties minds on our membership of the EU

[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]David Scott[/bold] wrote:
There's only UKIP talking sense, if you ask me.[/p][/quote]UKIP are good for a local by-election, but how would they cope in a main government role.
Their main policy is get out of EU, what would they do regarding all other issues, it's one thing trying to gain votes based on one issue which many people are worried about, but could they handle the Economy etc.
I support UKIP for the Eastleigh election on the intention that it's only for 2 years[/p][/quote]If they could win a seat it could change all parties minds on our membership of the EUloosehead

UKIP has only one policy on offer that is the same in every constituency.

as i have had to correct you before i'll say it again go to the ukip website and read their policies, otherwise go back to the guardian

[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]David Scott[/bold] wrote:
There's only UKIP talking sense, if you ask me.[/p][/quote]With such a comment, I doubt that many will bother asking you.
UKIP has only one policy on offer that is the same in every constituency.[/p][/quote]as i have had to correct you before i'll say it again go to the ukip website and read their policies, otherwise go back to the guardianderek james

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

Just for once I agree with Paramjit. I think the Coalition has been a disaster because quite simply the two partners hate each other, and like a lot of people who voted for either I now hate both of them. The tories would have been better off forming a coalition with labour because strageny enough they could at least work together and together they could have consigned the spiteful jealous vindictive unpleasant Lib Dems and their policies to the dustbin of history where they belong.

[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]Just for once I agree with Paramjit. I think the Coalition has been a disaster because quite simply the two partners hate each other, and like a lot of people who voted for either I now hate both of them. The tories would have been better off forming a coalition with labour because strageny enough they could at least work together and together they could have consigned the spiteful jealous vindictive unpleasant Lib Dems and their policies to the dustbin of history where they belong.The Wickham Man

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

Just for once I agree with Paramjit. I think the Coalition has been a disaster because quite simply the two partners hate each other, and like a lot of people who voted for either I now hate both of them. The tories would have been better off forming a coalition with labour because strageny enough they could at least work together and together they could have consigned the spiteful jealous vindictive unpleasant Lib Dems and their policies to the dustbin of history where they belong.

The Tories were left with a dilemma join up with a party that you don't like or let them join up with the party that had got us into this mess ( Labour).
they decided for the good of the country they would forget their dislike of the LibDems for the best interests of this country.
can you really consider the Tories joining up with a Labour Party who left a note saying the cupboard was bare?
I for one ( I know many others) feel we should have gone it alone or called for a new election.
LibDems would have been financially unable to contest another election that soon so we could have seen a true blue Government.
I hate the Libs having any power but I know Labour would have cut their arms off to cover up the mess they left us with & could the country afford another election that soon?

[quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]Just for once I agree with Paramjit. I think the Coalition has been a disaster because quite simply the two partners hate each other, and like a lot of people who voted for either I now hate both of them. The tories would have been better off forming a coalition with labour because strageny enough they could at least work together and together they could have consigned the spiteful jealous vindictive unpleasant Lib Dems and their policies to the dustbin of history where they belong.[/p][/quote]The Tories were left with a dilemma join up with a party that you don't like or let them join up with the party that had got us into this mess ( Labour).
they decided for the good of the country they would forget their dislike of the LibDems for the best interests of this country.
can you really consider the Tories joining up with a Labour Party who left a note saying the cupboard was bare?
I for one ( I know many others) feel we should have gone it alone or called for a new election.
LibDems would have been financially unable to contest another election that soon so we could have seen a true blue Government.
I hate the Libs having any power but I know Labour would have cut their arms off to cover up the mess they left us with & could the country afford another election that soon?loosehead

IronLady2010 wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.

I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.

I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.

As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.

In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.

Just for once I agree with Paramjit. I think the Coalition has been a disaster because quite simply the two partners hate each other, and like a lot of people who voted for either I now hate both of them. The tories would have been better off forming a coalition with labour because strageny enough they could at least work together and together they could have consigned the spiteful jealous vindictive unpleasant Lib Dems and their policies to the dustbin of history where they belong.

The Tories were left with a dilemma join up with a party that you don't like or let them join up with the party that had got us into this mess ( Labour).
they decided for the good of the country they would forget their dislike of the LibDems for the best interests of this country.
can you really consider the Tories joining up with a Labour Party who left a note saying the cupboard was bare?
I for one ( I know many others) feel we should have gone it alone or called for a new election.
LibDems would have been financially unable to contest another election that soon so we could have seen a true blue Government.
I hate the Libs having any power but I know Labour would have cut their arms off to cover up the mess they left us with &amp; could the country afford another election that soon?

Hmm good point.

[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote:
Mr Bahia, I'm looking forward to hearing more from the TUSC candidate. For such a new unheard of party they are hardly hitting the headlines.
I was shocked that Southy who is a member of TUSC was yesterday arguing they wouldn't be putting up a candidate, yet the very same day the TUSC website announced a candidate.
I'm guessing Southy is very busy in meeting right now as he's gone awol as always when he gets things wrong.[/p][/quote]As I am not their member, only sympathiser, I can't help you with that puzzle. Peter may have missed the meeting when it may have been decided to contest. Only my guess.
In fairness both Socialist Party and TUSC have to be admired, because they may be small but are very good at raising important issues. Also they say what they mean so whether people agree with them or not, at least they are not lied to, which has unfortunately become the hall mark of all three main parties, responsible for switching people off our democracy.[/p][/quote]Just for once I agree with Paramjit. I think the Coalition has been a disaster because quite simply the two partners hate each other, and like a lot of people who voted for either I now hate both of them. The tories would have been better off forming a coalition with labour because strageny enough they could at least work together and together they could have consigned the spiteful jealous vindictive unpleasant Lib Dems and their policies to the dustbin of history where they belong.[/p][/quote]The Tories were left with a dilemma join up with a party that you don't like or let them join up with the party that had got us into this mess ( Labour).
they decided for the good of the country they would forget their dislike of the LibDems for the best interests of this country.
can you really consider the Tories joining up with a Labour Party who left a note saying the cupboard was bare?
I for one ( I know many others) feel we should have gone it alone or called for a new election.
LibDems would have been financially unable to contest another election that soon so we could have seen a true blue Government.
I hate the Libs having any power but I know Labour would have cut their arms off to cover up the mess they left us with & could the country afford another election that soon?[/p][/quote]Hmm good point.The Wickham Man

loosehead wrote:
I hope the voters vote for the Tory candidate.
if they say they can't vote Tory but no longer want to vote Liberal but want to put in a protest vote well vote UKIP.
If Scotland vote for independence the name United Kingdom independence party will have to change their name .
Listening to Nigel faragh there's much more to UKIP than just getting out of the EU.
Ironlady go to their web site &amp; look up their manifesto.
I hope people just don't vote Liberal to keep out the Tories as surely Liberals are now a proven liability aren't they?

Yup much more to UKIP.

Flat 31% tax rate for all. So a nice reduction for the rich again. The middle income pensioner group gets punished yet again, instead of paying 20% income tax they propose you pay 31% as they amalgamate NI with income tax.

Corporation tax will also be reduced and they will no longer make NI contributions.

Further more making NI into a tax changes its meaning, no longer an insurance that pays out if you are sick or for your oap.

Once it is a labelled tax your entitlement becomes questionable and thereby paves the way for private health care and no pensions or pensions labelled as benefits of which they are not since people contributed and had to have paid in so many years to get the said pension.

UKIP would happily form a coalition with the Tories or if the Tories are truly decimated next election most will defect to UKIP.

Be warned UKIP is even more right wing than the Tories. Another gem from their manifesto:

Repeal the 1998 Human Rights Act and withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms. In future British courts will not be allowed to
appeal to any international treaty or convention that overrides or sets aside the provisions of any statute passed by the UK Parliament

Totalitarian power... and once in government we have seen they tear up the manifesto and do what want.

[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
I hope the voters vote for the Tory candidate.
if they say they can't vote Tory but no longer want to vote Liberal but want to put in a protest vote well vote UKIP.
If Scotland vote for independence the name United Kingdom independence party will have to change their name .
Listening to Nigel faragh there's much more to UKIP than just getting out of the EU.
Ironlady go to their web site & look up their manifesto.
I hope people just don't vote Liberal to keep out the Tories as surely Liberals are now a proven liability aren't they?[/p][/quote]Yup much more to UKIP.
Flat 31% tax rate for all. So a nice reduction for the rich again. The middle income pensioner group gets punished yet again, instead of paying 20% income tax they propose you pay 31% as they amalgamate NI with income tax.
Corporation tax will also be reduced and they will no longer make NI contributions.
Further more making NI into a tax changes its meaning, no longer an insurance that pays out if you are sick or for your oap.
Once it is a labelled tax your entitlement becomes questionable and thereby paves the way for private health care and no pensions or pensions labelled as benefits of which they are not since people contributed and had to have paid in so many years to get the said pension.
UKIP would happily form a coalition with the Tories or if the Tories are truly decimated next election most will defect to UKIP.
Be warned UKIP is even more right wing than the Tories. Another gem from their manifesto:
Repeal the 1998 Human Rights Act and withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms. In future British courts will not be allowed to
appeal to any international treaty or convention that overrides or sets aside the provisions of any statute passed by the UK Parliament
Totalitarian power... and once in government we have seen they tear up the manifesto and do what want.Dresnez

loosehead wrote:
I hope the voters vote for the Tory candidate.
if they say they can't vote Tory but no longer want to vote Liberal but want to put in a protest vote well vote UKIP.
If Scotland vote for independence the name United Kingdom independence party will have to change their name .
Listening to Nigel faragh there's much more to UKIP than just getting out of the EU.
Ironlady go to their web site &amp; look up their manifesto.
I hope people just don't vote Liberal to keep out the Tories as surely Liberals are now a proven liability aren't they?

Yup much more to UKIP.

Flat 31% tax rate for all. So a nice reduction for the rich again. The middle income pensioner group gets punished yet again, instead of paying 20% income tax they propose you pay 31% as they amalgamate NI with income tax.

Corporation tax will also be reduced and they will no longer make NI contributions.

Further more making NI into a tax changes its meaning, no longer an insurance that pays out if you are sick or for your oap.

Once it is a labelled tax your entitlement becomes questionable and thereby paves the way for private health care and no pensions or pensions labelled as benefits of which they are not since people contributed and had to have paid in so many years to get the said pension.

UKIP would happily form a coalition with the Tories or if the Tories are truly decimated next election most will defect to UKIP.

Be warned UKIP is even more right wing than the Tories. Another gem from their manifesto:

Repeal the 1998 Human Rights Act and withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms. In future British courts will not be allowed to
appeal to any international treaty or convention that overrides or sets aside the provisions of any statute passed by the UK Parliament

Totalitarian power... and once in government we have seen they tear up the manifesto and do what want.

The European act is a sick joke! when Abu Hamza & other scum bags can use it to live here or a convict who's in prison for killing a police officer can use it to get money from us.
Now they say we have to give convicts the vote? what next? prostitutes on tap?
I worked & some weeks I could do a 80hour week ( overtime) I paid over £500 a month in NI stamp so to include it in with tax & have a flat rate of 31% tells me the harder you work & the more you can work the more you can earn without getting hammered with 40% tax & NI stamp how's that wrong?
I'm a Tory supporter but let's look at the EU!
40% tax in France & for much of the EU that's the Norm so even at 31% the UKIP party would set a lower tax than we would have with a Liberal Government taking us deeper into the EU so do you really want to use that argument?

[quote][p][bold]Dresnez[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
I hope the voters vote for the Tory candidate.
if they say they can't vote Tory but no longer want to vote Liberal but want to put in a protest vote well vote UKIP.
If Scotland vote for independence the name United Kingdom independence party will have to change their name .
Listening to Nigel faragh there's much more to UKIP than just getting out of the EU.
Ironlady go to their web site & look up their manifesto.
I hope people just don't vote Liberal to keep out the Tories as surely Liberals are now a proven liability aren't they?[/p][/quote]Yup much more to UKIP.
Flat 31% tax rate for all. So a nice reduction for the rich again. The middle income pensioner group gets punished yet again, instead of paying 20% income tax they propose you pay 31% as they amalgamate NI with income tax.
Corporation tax will also be reduced and they will no longer make NI contributions.
Further more making NI into a tax changes its meaning, no longer an insurance that pays out if you are sick or for your oap.
Once it is a labelled tax your entitlement becomes questionable and thereby paves the way for private health care and no pensions or pensions labelled as benefits of which they are not since people contributed and had to have paid in so many years to get the said pension.
UKIP would happily form a coalition with the Tories or if the Tories are truly decimated next election most will defect to UKIP.
Be warned UKIP is even more right wing than the Tories. Another gem from their manifesto:
Repeal the 1998 Human Rights Act and withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms. In future British courts will not be allowed to
appeal to any international treaty or convention that overrides or sets aside the provisions of any statute passed by the UK Parliament
Totalitarian power... and once in government we have seen they tear up the manifesto and do what want.[/p][/quote]The European act is a sick joke! when Abu Hamza & other scum bags can use it to live here or a convict who's in prison for killing a police officer can use it to get money from us.
Now they say we have to give convicts the vote? what next? prostitutes on tap?
I worked & some weeks I could do a 80hour week ( overtime) I paid over £500 a month in NI stamp so to include it in with tax & have a flat rate of 31% tells me the harder you work & the more you can work the more you can earn without getting hammered with 40% tax & NI stamp how's that wrong?
I'm a Tory supporter but let's look at the EU!
40% tax in France & for much of the EU that's the Norm so even at 31% the UKIP party would set a lower tax than we would have with a Liberal Government taking us deeper into the EU so do you really want to use that argument?loosehead

loosehead wrote:
I hope the voters vote for the Tory candidate.
if they say they can't vote Tory but no longer want to vote Liberal but want to put in a protest vote well vote UKIP.
If Scotland vote for independence the name United Kingdom independence party will have to change their name .
Listening to Nigel faragh there's much more to UKIP than just getting out of the EU.
Ironlady go to their web site &amp; look up their manifesto.
I hope people just don't vote Liberal to keep out the Tories as surely Liberals are now a proven liability aren't they?

Yup much more to UKIP.

Flat 31% tax rate for all. So a nice reduction for the rich again. The middle income pensioner group gets punished yet again, instead of paying 20% income tax they propose you pay 31% as they amalgamate NI with income tax.

Corporation tax will also be reduced and they will no longer make NI contributions.

Further more making NI into a tax changes its meaning, no longer an insurance that pays out if you are sick or for your oap.

Once it is a labelled tax your entitlement becomes questionable and thereby paves the way for private health care and no pensions or pensions labelled as benefits of which they are not since people contributed and had to have paid in so many years to get the said pension.

UKIP would happily form a coalition with the Tories or if the Tories are truly decimated next election most will defect to UKIP.

Be warned UKIP is even more right wing than the Tories. Another gem from their manifesto:

Repeal the 1998 Human Rights Act and withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms. In future British courts will not be allowed to
appeal to any international treaty or convention that overrides or sets aside the provisions of any statute passed by the UK Parliament

Totalitarian power... and once in government we have seen they tear up the manifesto and do what want.

The European act is a sick joke! when Abu Hamza &amp; other scum bags can use it to live here or a convict who's in prison for killing a police officer can use it to get money from us.
Now they say we have to give convicts the vote? what next? prostitutes on tap?
I worked &amp; some weeks I could do a 80hour week ( overtime) I paid over £500 a month in NI stamp so to include it in with tax &amp; have a flat rate of 31% tells me the harder you work &amp; the more you can work the more you can earn without getting hammered with 40% tax &amp; NI stamp how's that wrong?
I'm a Tory supporter but let's look at the EU!
40% tax in France &amp; for much of the EU that's the Norm so even at 31% the UKIP party would set a lower tax than we would have with a Liberal Government taking us deeper into the EU so do you really want to use that argument?

Nice to be able to agree with you. I personally however saw no reason to respond to what was obvious rubbish.

[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Dresnez[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote:
I hope the voters vote for the Tory candidate.
if they say they can't vote Tory but no longer want to vote Liberal but want to put in a protest vote well vote UKIP.
If Scotland vote for independence the name United Kingdom independence party will have to change their name .
Listening to Nigel faragh there's much more to UKIP than just getting out of the EU.
Ironlady go to their web site & look up their manifesto.
I hope people just don't vote Liberal to keep out the Tories as surely Liberals are now a proven liability aren't they?[/p][/quote]Yup much more to UKIP.
Flat 31% tax rate for all. So a nice reduction for the rich again. The middle income pensioner group gets punished yet again, instead of paying 20% income tax they propose you pay 31% as they amalgamate NI with income tax.
Corporation tax will also be reduced and they will no longer make NI contributions.
Further more making NI into a tax changes its meaning, no longer an insurance that pays out if you are sick or for your oap.
Once it is a labelled tax your entitlement becomes questionable and thereby paves the way for private health care and no pensions or pensions labelled as benefits of which they are not since people contributed and had to have paid in so many years to get the said pension.
UKIP would happily form a coalition with the Tories or if the Tories are truly decimated next election most will defect to UKIP.
Be warned UKIP is even more right wing than the Tories. Another gem from their manifesto:
Repeal the 1998 Human Rights Act and withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms. In future British courts will not be allowed to
appeal to any international treaty or convention that overrides or sets aside the provisions of any statute passed by the UK Parliament
Totalitarian power... and once in government we have seen they tear up the manifesto and do what want.[/p][/quote]The European act is a sick joke! when Abu Hamza & other scum bags can use it to live here or a convict who's in prison for killing a police officer can use it to get money from us.
Now they say we have to give convicts the vote? what next? prostitutes on tap?
I worked & some weeks I could do a 80hour week ( overtime) I paid over £500 a month in NI stamp so to include it in with tax & have a flat rate of 31% tells me the harder you work & the more you can work the more you can earn without getting hammered with 40% tax & NI stamp how's that wrong?
I'm a Tory supporter but let's look at the EU!
40% tax in France & for much of the EU that's the Norm so even at 31% the UKIP party would set a lower tax than we would have with a Liberal Government taking us deeper into the EU so do you really want to use that argument?[/p][/quote]Nice to be able to agree with you. I personally however saw no reason to respond to what was obvious rubbish.Inform Al