Swedish Pinata of Death

I do not understand why. My experience with him, mainly on JL I admit, has been that he is a good scripter (he writes decent dialogue), but his action scenes leave a lot to be desired and most particularly, although he seems able to plot decent story arcs, he has a real weakness with climaxes. He gets his story going and it's pretty good and then it ends with a whimper instead of a bang. Usually the problem appears to be that he leaves too much to do in the final issue and then it ends up getting rushed.

Given that I don't really enjoy stories with weak endings, and have never, ever, liked Romita's art style (and don't understand how anyone can love it enough to pick up a book just based on his art, although many do), this is not a book I would get started on at this point.

Some day if I hear it is still good long from now (years), or was an epic run equivalent to the Perez WW or Simonson Thor or something, I might pick up the digital back-issues. But at full price or on paper? No.

I do not understand why. My experience with him, mainly on JL I admit, has been that he is a good scripter (he writes decent dialogue), but his action scenes leave a lot to be desired and most particularly, although he seems able to plot decent story arcs, he has a real weakness with climaxes. He gets his story going and it's pretty good and then it ends with a whimper instead of a bang. Usually the problem appears to be that he leaves too much to do in the final issue and then it ends up getting rushed.

Given that I don't really enjoy stories with weak endings, and have never, ever, liked Romita's art style (and don't understand how anyone can love it enough to pick up a book just based on his art, although many do), this is not a book I would get started on at this point.

Some day if I hear it is still good long from now (years), or was an epic run equivalent to the Perez WW or Simonson Thor or something, I might pick up the digital back-issues. But at full price or on paper? No.

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

Okay, not a bad start (I thought) but I was left wondering did Johns just flat out not read Superman Unchained? And all the DC editors developed amnesia and forgot how recently this sort of plot was used?

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

Okay, not a bad start (I thought) but I was left wondering did Johns just flat out not read Superman Unchained? And all the DC editors developed amnesia and forgot how recently this sort of plot was used?

Great Scott!!!

Rob Thompson wrote:Okay, not a bad start (I thought) but I was left wondering did Johns just flat out not read Superman Unchained? And all the DC editors developed amnesia and forgot how recently this sort of plot was used?

They must of devloped amnesia during Unchained because they "forgot"(Delayed) to continue on with the story.

Yeah some of the people I talk to complain this as well, any plot that was in #32 was simliar to Unchained. Did no one pointed this out to Johns? I'm fine if they use simliar plots from the past but during the same time as another story going on with Unchained?

Speaking of which...what was the main reason why Unchained been delayed a couple of times.

Great Scott!!!

Rob Thompson wrote:Okay, not a bad start (I thought) but I was left wondering did Johns just flat out not read Superman Unchained? And all the DC editors developed amnesia and forgot how recently this sort of plot was used?

They must of devloped amnesia during Unchained because they "forgot"(Delayed) to continue on with the story.

Yeah some of the people I talk to complain this as well, any plot that was in #32 was simliar to Unchained. Did no one pointed this out to Johns? I'm fine if they use simliar plots from the past but during the same time as another story going on with Unchained?

Speaking of which...what was the main reason why Unchained been delayed a couple of times.

Everybody lies!

OneWhoIsAll wrote:They must of devloped amnesia during Unchained because they "forgot"(Delayed) to continue on with the story.

Yeah some of the people I talk to complain this as well, any plot that was in #32 was simliar to Unchained. Did no one pointed this out to Johns? I'm fine if they use simliar plots from the past but during the same time as another story going on with Unchained?

Speaking of which...what was the main reason why Unchained been delayed a couple of times.

Everybody lies!

OneWhoIsAll wrote:They must of devloped amnesia during Unchained because they "forgot"(Delayed) to continue on with the story.

Yeah some of the people I talk to complain this as well, any plot that was in #32 was simliar to Unchained. Did no one pointed this out to Johns? I'm fine if they use simliar plots from the past but during the same time as another story going on with Unchained?

Speaking of which...what was the main reason why Unchained been delayed a couple of times.

Everybody lies!

Rob Thompson wrote:Okay, not a bad start (I thought) but I was left wondering did Johns just flat out not read Superman Unchained? And all the DC editors developed amnesia and forgot how recently this sort of plot was used?

Exactly.

I just sighed and kept reading.

DC really has no idea what it's doing anymore.

I was so underwhelmed after reading this book. Like Unchained, they both bore me to tears and it's sad since I SO wanted to like both of them.

Everybody lies!

Rob Thompson wrote:Okay, not a bad start (I thought) but I was left wondering did Johns just flat out not read Superman Unchained? And all the DC editors developed amnesia and forgot how recently this sort of plot was used?

Exactly.

I just sighed and kept reading.

DC really has no idea what it's doing anymore.

I was so underwhelmed after reading this book. Like Unchained, they both bore me to tears and it's sad since I SO wanted to like both of them.

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

OneWhoIsAll wrote:Argh....Wonder how heavy his workload is like if he had to delay his project...

Well, he did have to recover from drawing that promotional poster.

One of the differences between many of today's comic book creators and the ones of the golden, silver and bronze ages; the newer group seems to have much more trouble meeting deadlines, even though their working conditions and compensation are vastly improved.

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

OneWhoIsAll wrote:Argh....Wonder how heavy his workload is like if he had to delay his project...

Well, he did have to recover from drawing that promotional poster.

One of the differences between many of today's comic book creators and the ones of the golden, silver and bronze ages; the newer group seems to have much more trouble meeting deadlines, even though their working conditions and compensation are vastly improved.

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

Nah, I think Lee is of a special generation that's never given a fuck, because they believe their pretty art excuses all sins. Basically starting with the Image founders and continuing around the J. Scott Campbell group. They just kind of phone it in these days, since they know their names guarantee work

Most of the current generation know better. There are a lot of people who would/could easily take their place.

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

Nah, I think Lee is of a special generation that's never given a fuck, because they believe their pretty art excuses all sins. Basically starting with the Image founders and continuing around the J. Scott Campbell group. They just kind of phone it in these days, since they know their names guarantee work

Most of the current generation know better. There are a lot of people who would/could easily take their place.

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

superfictious wrote:Nah, I think Lee is of a special generation that's never given a fuck, because they believe their pretty art excuses all sins. Basically starting with the Image founders and continuing around the J. Scott Campbell group. They just kind of phone it in these days, since they know their names guarantee work

Most of the current generation know better. There are a lot of people who would/could easily take their place.

Some of the current generation seem to know better, I agree. Do not know as I would go so far as to say "most".

Humuhumunukunukuapuaa

superfictious wrote:Nah, I think Lee is of a special generation that's never given a fuck, because they believe their pretty art excuses all sins. Basically starting with the Image founders and continuing around the J. Scott Campbell group. They just kind of phone it in these days, since they know their names guarantee work

Most of the current generation know better. There are a lot of people who would/could easily take their place.

Some of the current generation seem to know better, I agree. Do not know as I would go so far as to say "most".