I know, I think I'm only 1 episode behind current, he's fcuking shit though and I'm annoyed he keeps coming in the dreams/visions with his shit acting

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Are you not convinced of the relationship between them because they are both men, or because of the colour difference, Doots? Either way, appalling prejudices and I am duly appalled. 1960s Alabama is calling, and wants you back. You utter horror.

I intended to delete all my unwatched Buffys tonight, but couldn't find it in me to do it. I've got seventeen episodes racked up on the planner. They show a new one every day and I might watch one a week.

CJ+ wrote:I found the one with the insurance assessor who has the memory thinger (no spoilers, but it's the one that starts with someone hitting someone else with their car) to be incredibly bleak at the end.

Yes, me too. Bleak as fcuk. I've still got the last episode of the season to watch and haven't yet felt in the right frame of mind.

Problem is, right, you don't know what you're getting with Black Mirror. Some of them are engaging and uplifting (like the brilliant Star Trek one from this series, or my favourite episode ever San Junipero from the last series), but most are quite depressing and some (like the insurance assessor one) are so bleak I just wish I hadn't watched it.

I keep watching and being disappointed in the hope that this episode will be another Star-Trek-one / San Junipero.

Or even that it'll make up for it in inventiveness, but the episodes are also feeling less inventive. It's like they sit down and think 'right, what's going to happen this week, in the world of minimalist houses and mind-reading head magnets'.

thekungfury wrote:I’ve watched the first couple of episodes of Altered Carbon on NF. Distopian futuristic Blade Runnerish thing. Can’t decide whether I love it or if it’s self indulgent shite. Could go either way at this stage.

Started this last night. HEAVY BR visuals, innit? Dunno how it’ll pan out. I’ve got an inkling it will beer towards obsessing over minor differences in the setting that PROVE IT ISNT BLADE RUNNER, OK?? instead of focusing on the story/characters. We’ll see.

It has a decent story line, later you get some of the back story of who the main character was before he went to jail. The musings on the nature of life etc. is quite Phillip K. Dick. I wonder how much they spent on it.

span wrote:(like the brilliant Star Trek one from this series, or my favourite episode ever San Junipero from the last series), .

Interesting. Both you and Clown cite that one as being good and I thought it was really shit. It was actually like watching a 1980's Star Trek episode for me which is definitely not a good thing. Even in 1980 it wasn't a good thing.Anwyay, I switched insurance assessor off after about 15 minutes last night as I was a little bit bored despite the fact it probably wasn't. I think I will enjoy it now you say it is bleak.

Strawman wrote:It has a decent story line, later you get some of the back story of who the main character was before he went to jail. The musings on the nature of life etc. is quite Phillip K. Dick. I wonder how much they spent on it.

This was written in a review in Time about it

For viewers, the mystery may instead be why Takeshi’s sleeve takes the form of Swedish actor Joel Kinnaman (House of Cards) playing an Asian man living in a white guy’s body. That’s how it’s written in the book, but onscreen it’s especially problematic. The creators would have done well to instead cast an Asian actor as the reborn Takeshi, avoiding the same whitewashing controversy that plagued last year’s Ghost in the Shell.

So, even though that's how it's written in the book, they supposedly should have used an Asian actor instead.

I know, I think I'm only 1 episode behind current, he's fcuking shit though and I'm annoyed he keeps coming in the dreams/visions with his shit acting

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Are you not convinced of the relationship between them because they are both men, or because of the colour difference, Doots? Either way, appalling prejudices and I am duly appalled. 1960s Alabama is calling, and wants you back. You utter horror.

No you utter horror! He's just shit!

We've just started watching S1 of Black Mirror, we like it so far, 3 episodes in.

span wrote:(like the brilliant Star Trek one from this series, or my favourite episode ever San Junipero from the last series), .

Interesting. Both you and Clown cite that one as being good and I thought it was really shit. It was actually like watching a 1980's Star Trek episode for me which is definitely not a good thing. Even in 1980 it wasn't a good thing.

I really enjoyed the Star Trek Callister episode, and said so here I think. It doesn't hold together if you think too hard about it afterwards, but I liked it a lot as I was watching.

I've watched about twenty minutes if the black and white one with the robot dog Terminator as well, but that's all with this series. I'm struggling to muster enthusiasm.

thekungfury wrote:I’ve watched the first couple of episodes of Altered Carbon on NF. Distopian futuristic Blade Runnerish thing. Can’t decide whether I love it or if it’s self indulgent shite. Could go either way at this stage.

Started this last night. HEAVY BR visuals, innit? Dunno how it’ll pan out. I’ve got an inkling it will beer towards obsessing over minor differences in the setting that PROVE IT ISNT BLADE RUNNER, OK?? instead of focusing on the story/characters. We’ll see.

Damien Thorn wrote:I intended to delete all my unwatched Buffys tonight, but couldn't find it in me to do it. I've got seventeen episodes racked up on the planner. They show a new one every day and I might watch one a week.

I'm doomed!

I did delete them all in the end, last night. I felt quite brave and empowered. And then this morning before I even left the house at five thirty, my box was already recording another one.

span wrote:(like the brilliant Star Trek one from this series, or my favourite episode ever San Junipero from the last series), .

Interesting. Both you and Clown cite that one as being good and I thought it was really shit. It was actually like watching a 1980's Star Trek episode for me which is definitely not a good thing. Even in 1980 it wasn't a good thing.Anwyay, I switched insurance assessor off after about 15 minutes last night as I was a little bit bored despite the fact it probably wasn't. I think I will enjoy it now you say it is bleak.

I quite liked the Star Trek one. It was enjoyable and reminded me of the twilight zone film. The insurance assessor one was bleak to say the least. The one directed by Jodie Foster was good but vv sad.

I think the knowledge that the insurance assessor one is so bleak is making me choose a time to watch it more carefully. Mr C also loves Black Mirror but I know he finds the bleak ones a bit much and it’s quite hard to watch the credits roll and turn to him and see sadness in his eyes.

Clown Ice Skater #4 wrote:I think the knowledge that the insurance assessor one is so bleak is making me choose a time to watch it more carefully. Mr C also loves Black Mirror but I know he finds the bleak ones a bit much and it’s quite hard to watch the credits roll and turn to him and see sadness in his eyes.

That one is truly terrible, in the sense that it’s so utterly horrible I kind of wish I hadn’t seen it in a way. Though the denouement is a little stupid...

Damien Thorn wrote:I did delete them all in the end, last night. I felt quite brave and empowered. And then this morning before I even left the house at five thirty, my box was already recording another one.

Hehe!

Clown Ice Skater #4 wrote:Mr C also loves Black Mirror but I know he finds the bleak ones a bit much and it’s quite hard to watch the credits roll and turn to him and see sadness in his eyes.

Damien Thorn wrote:I intended to delete all my unwatched Buffys tonight, but couldn't find it in me to do it. I've got seventeen episodes racked up on the planner. They show a new one every day and I might watch one a week.

I'm doomed!

I did delete them all in the end, last night. I felt quite brave and empowered. And then this morning before I even left the house at five thirty, my box was already recording another one.

I’ve just finished this so I won’t spoiler it...

It’s good, but it’s confused. When it’s being a hard boiled neo-noir, it’s excellent. Smoking guns, dangerous femmes and a riddle of a case, all set inside a hard boiled, neon rain drenched sprawl populated by a grotesque supporting cast are handled superbly.

Flashbacks, character expositions and ‘bigger picture’ stuff, not so much.

Purefoy is superb, Kinneman is ok.

I wish it had just stuck to being a hard boiled whodunnit in a cool setting. Purefoy’s rarefied society life echoes the sort of Hollywood gloss over criminal underbelly that Raymond Chandler worked so well and it should have focussed on that.

Good, with great bits, but also some shit bits.

ETA - ffs! I was going to say that one of the characters reminded me of Max Headroom and having just googled him, it’s because he actually was him.

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