Not saying it will happen, but what if the Hawks go entirely off the rails. And it's fairly obvious the coaching is the issue. What then? Is it realistic to envision a scenario that has Schneider remaining, after the President/HC who hired him, gets canned?

Obviously Paul Allen could do whatever he wanted as owner. Technically Paul could override anything and fire the president/HC and retain the GM.

We have a team with a winning record and victories over Dallas, NE, GB and Carolina... and you want to discuss the after effects of firing the head coach? A Coach that has helped build one of the top Defenses in the league from virtually nothing?

Losses are hard, but the sky isn't falling. I'm sorry we aren't going 16-0, but temper your expectations a bit.

Imo, this is the only way that Pete could get fired. If somebody from above said that we needed new coordinators and Pete refused to do it out of loyalty to his guys.

I dont expect it to happen though, and certainly not for the next 2 years.

I do expect Schneider to be here longer then Carroll though, just because of the relative age of the two. Schneider will pick our next head coach, imo. (Not saying that Carroll will get fired, just that eventually he'll move on or retire.)

Basis4day wrote:We have a team with a winning record and victories over Dallas, NE, GB and Carolina... and you want to discuss the after effects of firing the head coach? A Coach that has helped build one of the top Defenses in the league from virtually nothing?

Losses are hard, but the sky isn't falling. I'm sorry we aren't going 16-0, but temper your expectations a bit.

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For real? You REALLY think that's what I want, or the point? If I could attack the poster I would say "an unimaginative douche". But I cant, so I wont.

I was curious given the uniqueness of their relationship. Not only did Pete hired him, but they seemingly share philosiphies. It's unique. So unique I couldn't come up with a similar circumstance.

I'll try to fit my thinking and posts within your comprehension or ability to ascertain. Obviously, just throwing out a "I wonder if" on a message board is to broad a thing for you.

49ers webzone: Win or lose, i hope you injure Sherman. Like a serious career ending injury. I don't want him to get paid.49ers webzone: noise should not be the overwhelming reason a team is favored. they need to spray noise-damping foam onto the ceiling of that place.

If things do go off the rails I suspect our offense will continue to be the weak link. If that happens, I can see Paul Allen wanting to bring in a "big name" offensive guy to address that side of the football and replace Bevell. Carroll would probably have the choice of sticking around as both the head coach and VP. It would even be portrayed as partly his decision to bring in the new OC.

I would be very surprised if Carroll is not with the team in 2013, and mostly surprised if he is not here in 2014.

AgentDib wrote:If things do go off the rails I suspect our offense will continue to be the weak link. If that happens, I can see Paul Allen wanting to bring in a "big name" offensive guy to address that side of the football and replace Bevell. Carroll would probably have the choice of sticking around as both the head coach and VP. It would even be portrayed as partly his decision to bring in the new OC.

If they miss the playoffs, with 7 or less wins, maybe. But highly unlikely, given Allen's history.

Replacing Bates with Bevell, could eventually be Pete's undoing, a year or so down the road. Ill never be convinced firing Bates WASN'T actually about making a strong push for McDaniels. Bevell was the "oops, umm, we didn't get Josh" hire.

I wouldn't mind Sark calling plays over here, or even Doug Nussmeier who was the OC for UW last season and moved on to Alabama this season...I'm not entirely convinced that him leaving isn't at least partly to blame for the downturn in the UW Offense so far this season...

Interesting hypothetical, I just have a hard time wrapping my head around what kind of situation could arise that would warrant Allen making a decision that radical. Understanding how loyal Paul is with his employees the only thing I’ve come up with would be some life threatening illness, which would, once again, effect a joint search for a new HC involving Pete, John, and Paul.

Even more interesting (to me anyway) is could they ever find someone that would be able to maintain the same atmosphere/philosophy Carroll/Schneider have now established here?

"Est autem fides credere quod nondum vides; cuius fidei merces est videre quod credis." Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe.(St. Augustine of Hippo)