Thread DescriptionThis thread was originally created to encourage traders here at GTZ to do more trading, especially retro related stuff. It has turned into a lot more and I am so grateful to everyone who contributed to this thread and have kept it going for nearly 6 months now. I hope this thread will continue to thrive and everyone who reads/participates in this thread will gain some value or knowledge out of it.

We will still have Trade lists up here, though it's been a while since anyone updated. I encourage everyone to look over their lists and post updates.There is also a section for gorgeous pictures of game rooms that active participants of this thread have shared. Feel free to share some pics of your collection or game room.I will be adding another section for information regarding video quality of retro gaming systems on modern displays and how to improve them. There is rather some extensive discussion regarding how to improve the display quality of retro gaming systems and if you are new to this like I am, you will find it very informative.

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GTZ has become a marketplace where the most commonly traded commodity is . I want to start an effort to get some trades going and to discuss some good games perhaps you never heard of or interested in but want to discover/know more of. For example, I just got intto shmups after years of ignoring the genre and I love to discover new(to me) and rediscover old ones(Sonic Wings comes to mind).

No pressure here. Feel free to discuss anything retro. Perhaps throw out some WTTF targets and what you have to offer. I am sick of browsing people's year old Available lists.

Some examples:

- WTTF/WTB/LF- What you think is awesome game/series/whatever- Potential games you have up for trade- Pics of what you have/what you would love to get/what you think is the bestest awesomest game ever- Show off your latest finds/adds to your collection

I'm going ahead and just filing a claim now for damage to the cases and whatnot. Apparently $700 is small enough that they don't even need to come out and inspect which I found funny but heh, big money business and all that.

Also I agree with @WithinTemptation that November really should be an snes classic game of the month, it's the most popular thing in gaming at the moment and I'm sure a lot of people would want to play with us here meaning more RTT peeps (new ones too) conversing 😊 And sharing their gaming experiences with us.

> Back when I had a tiny apartment I went to the arcade auction and was a total idiot.

> I love these pictures. My life was dumb.

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Even though I shouldn't I would love a sit arcade racer here that would be cool or possibly one of those fully enclosed shooters like the lost world Jurassic park. But I would also play dance dance revolution or Mortal Kombat 2 or 4 if I could get one of those also.

Something just happened that made me think of at least one of mine. Long epilogue endings to RPGs. I am playing one right now. Dragon Quest VII. After I beat the boss I want to see a beautiful ending, even if it's 10 minutes long, fine that's ok. I just don't want to have to walk around after I beat the boss. SHOW me the ending, don't make me play it.

> Something just happened that made me think of at least one of mine. Long epilogue

> endings to RPGs. I am playing one right now. Dragon Quest VII. After I beat the

> boss I want to see a beautiful ending, even if it's 10 minutes long, fine that's

> ok. I just don't want to have to walk around after I beat the boss. SHOW me the

> ending, don't make me play it.

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If it's not 16:9 retro games and people who say Little Sampson, it's times I'm not playing a game. Any cut scene, dialogue, menu, open world, tutorial, or other BS that doesn't need to be in a game and just wastes my time. Those things aren't always bad of course but if I'm playing a racing game and it has an open world and cut scenes, I want to die.

> I have a chance to get a neo geo cab cabaret, a 3rd strike cab, mvc2 or play choice

> 10 (needs power supply).

Okay so any specifics about the neo geo one would help otherwise I would say get that play choice 10 and tell us any games that already come with either one please.

But if neither one comes with any built in games I say SF3 for sure. I didn't get to play it a ton in the arcade and I know I played it somewhere else too but Ken and Ryu look pretty good in that game and I always wanted to get better with Elena because she seemed like a fun character.

Man now I actually wanna play street fighter 3 again lol.

Also any links to all of these would be pretty cool. We would NOT try to steal these from you feel free to share.

> Oh, PC10 would be the death of me financially. I'd get everyfudgingthing.

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> I think it'd have to be MvC2? But those Naomi boards self-immolate after a while

> don't they? That kinda sucks.

Iirc there us a pseudo Everdrive like device for the PC10. The thing with that one is the power supply is borked and replacing it will be hella expensive, think like what these eBay people want for the snes mini big.

For Naomi I think there is a suicide switch, but a simple fix.The possibility of having a net dimm to load any Naomi game you want is tempting, can anyone say Jambo safari motherfudgers?

I know for sure that the cps2 system has a kill switch but that is the nicest out of the bunch. Original can, with marquee and super nice.

>> I have a chance to get a neo geo cab cabaret, a 3rd strike cab, mvc2 or play choice

>> 10 (needs power supply).

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> Okay so any specifics about the neo geo one would help otherwise I would say get

> that play choice 10 and tell us any games that already come with either one please.

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> But if neither one comes with any built in games I say SF3 for sure. I didn't get

> to play it a ton in the arcade and I know I played it somewhere else too but Ken

> and Ryu look pretty good in that game and I always wanted to get better with Elena

> because she seemed like a fun character.

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> Man now I actually wanna play street fighter 3 again lol.

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> Also any links to all of these would be pretty cool. We would NOT try to steal these

> from you feel free to share.

The play choice 10 is an original conversion and as mentioned needs a replacement power supply, will have to get the games list from the owner. Other than that it's a two screen full size arcade with the zapper attachment, is a beast size wise.

The mvc2 cab looks like a conversation but does have the original controls panel. As mentioned best possibility at getting the whole Naomi library with the net dimm. However it's library has so much in common with the Dreamcast.

The third strike cab is a thing of beauty. Original big blue with a raised area for the marquee. Also helps that Third strike is one of my favorite games ever, a gentlemen's game. @DefaultGen I'll have to get you pictures it's the best looking out of the bunch. System wise it's the most unique with the cps2 games there least common with it's console counterparts (Red Earth?)

The neo geo cabaret cab is probally the most well known. I heard from some podcast that the AES is the most expensive system to collect for. The MVS that the arcades are based off of is somewhat cheaper. The cab itself is in really good condition , looks like a 14 in CRT in there and frankly is the most wife friendly, but damn those controller are close together.

After hearing all that I would say that play choice 10 is maybe the least convenient most expensive but with Zappers already there? THATS the one you want right there especially if there's two zappers you could (hopefully if your wife likes gaming at all) play fun co op games with your wife. That's one of the best things in the world I used to love gaming with my significant others. Pretty much that's living the dream 😍

But yeah if the neo geo is the smallest that might be good for space constraints.

And like you said about that street fighter cabinet, if you'd be proud to own it hell thats probably the one right there, no muss no fuss and your favorite fighting game plus original street fighter button layouts in the arcade always just feel right somehow so I don't see how you could go wrong with any of them. Make sure you test them out if you can for as long as you can. That should tell you right there which one belongs to you. Good luck sir and I hope you get a perfect machine 😊

I really love my OSSC. I've been fiddling around with line doubling and scanlines. I got it up to line x4 on PS1 and I went back and forth from 3x to 4x and I did notice a difference in 4x. It def appeared sharper and I think I really like it. And this is on a 65" screen mind you. I think the line doubler, tripler, etc. . is what makes the big difference from iscan and OSSC. I kinda hate to play my N64 via s-video on my 40" now because it's not got the benefit of a line quadrupler lol. Oh, and I finally got my Dreamcast hooked up to something via VGA. Looks great!

Couldn't be happier. Since we do have a few upscale curious people in this thread, OSSC is a def step up from iscan, worth the money over iscans. Heck in some cases as @Lunar and @Gypsy will tell you, it's actually cheaper than the high end iscans.

First off, I'm sorry about what happened earlier. Some really dumb assumptions were made and I got mad because I thought I was getting blown off. I'm the kind of person who likes to talk things through on a trade and make sure things are more or less worked out before I even send an offer. I didn't like being mocked by the peanut gallery, and I'm not going to demand the console in question sent to me. I just wanted an explanation.

That said, re: Song of the Deep, some games don't get the love they deserve during their first life *cough*Okami*cough*, so they become cult classics. The best thing we can do for those games is to love them and share them with our friends.

Setup workflow? Not sure exactly what that means. On THAT tv, nothing. Just the 360 hooked via HDMI because the iscan was not able to display the upscaled images. Downstairs I have a working iscan with RGB and s-video inputs.

Upstairs I have tested PS2, PS1, and SNES all with RGB. And Dreamcast with VGA, all display wonderfullly. Supposedly s-video will work if you buy an adaptor which I might try at some point. The only input I have left to test is component, I have an xbox for that. It will be interesting to see how it upscales XBOX.

>> Something just happened that made me think of at least one of mine. Long epilogue

>> endings to RPGs. I am playing one right now. Dragon Quest VII. After I beat

> the

>> boss I want to see a beautiful ending, even if it's 10 minutes long, fine that's

>> ok. I just don't want to have to walk around after I beat the boss. SHOW me the

>> ending, don't make me play it.

>>

>>

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> If it's not 16:9 retro games and people who say Little Sampson, it's times I'm not

> playing a game. Any cut scene, dialogue, menu, open world, tutorial, or other BS

> that doesn't need to be in a game and just wastes my time. Those things aren't always

> bad of course but if I'm playing a racing game and it has an open world and cut scenes,

> I want to die.

>

>

16:9 stretching of old games is my new trigger.

Games that hammer you with a tutorial in the main game suck, games where you can't skip that are the farking worst. I'm not 2 years old, I can read the controls section of a manual and I can also just figure out game mechanics.

Some of my own pet peeves...

Modern games: Install, patch, update on new console games. I always knew what I was signing up for with PC. Literally the only reason to put up with worse console versions was because of how plug and play they were. All consoles have now are exclusives. Lol.

Old games: Games that are so purposefully obtuse that you need to read the manual to even know where to go and what to do. Games should be intuitive, especially old games which are simpler in nature due to tech restraints.

> Couldn't be happier. Since we do have a few upscale curious people in this thread,

> OSSC is a def step up from iscan, worth the money over iscans. Heck in some cases

> as @Lunar and @Gypsy will tell you, it's actually cheaper than the high end iscans.

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Dreamcast VGA is awesome. Honestly it looks great on just about any random old VGA CRT monitor.

OSSC is a great product, streamlined for gaming. I do plan to get one eventually. Maybe two. Got a couple situations where I'd like to pair an OSSC with something else. I had been looking into an XRGB2 or 3 but I think I'd much rather have an OSSC and use something like an HDFury to hook it up to a CRT monitor.

like with Zelda I am like one of two people who are not excited about Mario. the 3d marios really just aren't my thing. xenoblade 2 looks excellent though, and the stellar (retro styled!) project octopath hits sometime 2018.

To be clear, that is a "silver graded" game that is not factory sealed. It is graded by the company selling the game! They literally put a nice copy of Shining Force II in an acrylic case and put a $1600 BIN price on it. I can't get over this.

Golf Story IS awesome. I got it on release and have put about 10 hours in it. I adored Mario Golf on the GBC back in the day and this feels very similar, my biggest gripes with the game are some of the decisions they made around the golf mechanics. The writing and charm is super duper top notch. Highly recommended if you have a switch

There are a couple nice arcade machines here the Tempest and that motorcycle ride on game look great to me. Can I afford them ..... Nope but I just figured I would share some cool looking games with y'all 😊

They are right here in the valley though I suppose if I craigslisted half my stuff I could get that motorcycle game and even have it delivered. But getting it up these stairs would be a miniature nightmare and let's face it it's no dance dance revolution no matter how cool it is 😉