My issue was with the end of your first post...it implies that "every church" has this same issue. That's a pretty blanketing statement, and would seem a bit of a reach in my opinion.

How many of the people in the church that you go to will vote for the same person for president?

That makes it a political issue.

06-06-2008, 05:49 AM

rbedgood

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Originally Posted by hermhater

How many of the people in the church that you go to will vote for the same person for president?

That makes it a political issue.

Ummm, I live in Arizona...in a fairly affluent area. The area votes conservative no matter who the candidate is, but when the candidate is from Arizona, even moreso. The general population in our voting precinct votes about 90% conservative...I wouldn't expect the church population to be much different.

I understand what you are saying, but as with most statistics, a blanket statement can't be factually made without considering all variables.

First of all, most churches are neighborhood based, and therefore people from similar demographics will attend a church more often than not. That in itself would lead the majority of any church body to support similar causes, candidates, etc.

Secondly, many churches tend to draw from certain populations. My church is pretty diverse for the N. Phoenix area...what does that mean, ummmm, we're only about 95% WASPs...considering the surrounding neighborhoods are probably in excess of 95%, we are diverse.

Finally, I've attended this church every week for nearly 10 years. Our paster has NEVER endorsed any candidate and only once in 10 years has spoken of any issues. And even then he didn't endorse say which issue, (although many of us knew), he simply stated, "this upcoming election has a number of candidates, and issues...some of which have a Biblical answer for where we as Christians should stand...it isn't right for me to tell anyone how to vote, but read your Bible and let God lead you"

I'm not trying to make anyone go to my church...heck I'm 2500 miles away from most of you, but I am pointing out that not every church is offensive. For every Rev Wright, David Duke, etc. there's a loving, compassionate pastor who just cares about people.

06-06-2008, 09:10 AM

Canada

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Originally Posted by hermhater

Who cares if I can reach 17,000 posts before Chiefster?

Can we get a bet?

No..

06-07-2008, 02:21 AM

Chiefster

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HA!!!!!

This is funny!

06-27-2008, 12:23 AM

spiman

Ah GUNS --LUV/EM

US Supreme Court Rules Americans Have Right to Own Guns.For the first time in history, the U.S. Supreme Court has issued a definitive ruling on the right of Americans to own guns. A five-to-four majority of the court ruled that individual citizens have the right to own firearms, and in the process it struck down a 32-year-old ban on handguns in the nation's capital, Washington, D.C. Legal scholars have long debated whether the Second Amendment guaranteed the right of individuals to possess firearms, or if it merely applied to state militias. Jeez-Ya Think.."People do have an individual right to keep and bear arms, that is very important to remember. That means that the government cannot ban handguns, it cannot regulate guns out of existence. We feel today is a fantastic day for liberty once again," I Say..:yahoo:

06-27-2008, 01:32 AM

Guru

If John Kerry had been president, the opposite would have happened. Good thing he didn't win.

That should have been a landslide 9-0 win though.

06-27-2008, 01:50 AM

rbedgood

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Originally Posted by Guru

If John Kerry had been president, the opposite would have happened. Good thing he didn't win.

That should have been a landslide 9-0 win though.

I was expecting a 5-4 decision the wrong way, althought I agree it is completely obvious...but it was funny watching Obama dance around the subject a bit today.

"I feel that the individual has the right to have firearms and that local jurisdictions should be able to regulate ownership..."

HUH???

06-27-2008, 02:33 AM

Guru

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Originally Posted by rbedgood

I was expecting a 5-4 decision the wrong way, althought I agree it is completely obvious...but it was funny watching Obama dance around the subject a bit today.

"I feel that the individual has the right to have firearms and that local jurisdictions should be able to regulate ownership..."

HUH???

Damn!! It's John Kerry in disguise.

06-27-2008, 10:06 PM

spiman

Damm, Am I color blind?

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Damn!! It's John Kerry in disguise.

I am wondering which one will get the balls to start {endorse} Nuclear Power as an answer to our energy problems. Electric cars need.. I worked for GE once upon a time and the plant/divison is leveled-(shopping mall) They built alot of plants in the day and the earth is still here-ummm...Go nukes..