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Now the 435XDE's have been out a while what have peoples experiences of image retention / burn been since the 200+ hours initial careful period?

I've done some searches on here and found a couple of stories which scared me but only managed to find 1 or 2 on avsforum.

I'm particularly interested in any users who have used PC's for any period of time and / or games consoles. DVD , Games & PC if possible are my intended usage with some TV (will most likely have a seperate ariel to drive the internal freeview (if I go Pioneer)).

I'm just looking for some more feedback before I make my final choice between Panny or Pioneer - as has been mentioned lots of pro/cons between the 2.

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I find image retention on the 435 to be slightly better than the 434. I've used pro evo soccer on there for about 40 mins a time and have seen no retention. The only thing I have seen is that after using analogue teletext for a few mins the "teletext" logo in the top centre shows up slightly. Stays a lot longer on my mate's 434 though for some reason.

I've had mine since the week before crimbo and have had the settings quite low since then. I would like them a little more contrasty so I will be trying to raise the contrast level shortly.

Pannys are all but indistructible for this sort of thing though apparently.

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had my 435xde for 4 weeks now ive had all levels well down. and i mean well down ,in all i would say ive clocked up 150-200hrs. I have no problems at all with picture quality, but i do with image burn, my kids watch disney channel the one with the big red ears in the corner, the other day it was on for no more than 20 mins turned over what yoy know 2 big ears lurking in the corner! not happy at all, fair enough 15 mins on another channel and its gone, but whats going to happen when i turn contrast etc up, ive had the same problem on sky sports, watch 45mins of football and the score/time logo is burnt there. So all in all I feel the burn is a big problem , even when your as carefull as i am it seems it cant be avoided.

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had my 435xde for 4 weeks now ive had all levels well down. and i mean well down ,in all i would say ive clocked up 150-200hrs. I have no problems at all with picture quality, but i do with image burn, my kids watch disney channel the one with the big red ears in the corner, the other day it was on for no more than 20 mins turned over what yoy know 2 big ears lurking in the corner! not happy at all, fair enough 15 mins on another channel and its gone, but whats going to happen when i turn contrast etc up, ive had the same problem on sky sports, watch 45mins of football and the score/time logo is burnt there. So all in all I feel the burn is a big problem , even when your as carefull as i am it seems it cant be avoided.

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Burn in is a VERY BIG disadvandage.
I m really really scared.
I have to continuously check if there is a static image on the screen,
I have to check all the time what the kids are watching and how many time,
I must not fell asleep while watching tv coz I may wake up with a burnt image on my 2.5k belongings.
Burn in gives me shivers.
Eventually I should spend some $ more to buy an lcd

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had my 435xde for 4 weeks now ive had all levels well down. and i mean well down ,in all i would say ive clocked up 150-200hrs. I have no problems at all with picture quality, but i do with image burn, my kids watch disney channel the one with the big red ears in the corner, the other day it was on for no more than 20 mins turned over what yoy know 2 big ears lurking in the corner! not happy at all, fair enough 15 mins on another channel and its gone, but whats going to happen when i turn contrast etc up, ive had the same problem on sky sports, watch 45mins of football and the score/time logo is burnt there. So all in all I feel the burn is a big problem , even when your as carefull as i am it seems it cant be avoided.

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I have the same problem..when I have the tele-text on..only for å few minutes..I can see the tele-text for a couple of minutes when I watch other tv channels..

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I have a panasonic panel and bought an NEC last week, I have to say that I have never seen image retention and always thought people were fussing over nothing, however, the NEC would leave an image of white text etc. after a couple of minutes. I have been told that this stops after about 200 hours.

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had my 435xde for 4 weeks now ive had all levels well down. and i mean well down ,in all i would say ive clocked up 150-200hrs. I have no problems at all with picture quality, but i do with image burn, my kids watch disney channel the one with the big red ears in the corner, the other day it was on for no more than 20 mins turned over what yoy know 2 big ears lurking in the corner! not happy at all, fair enough 15 mins on another channel and its gone, but whats going to happen when i turn contrast etc up, ive had the same problem on sky sports, watch 45mins of football and the score/time logo is burnt there. So all in all I feel the burn is a big problem , even when your as carefull as i am it seems it cant be avoided.

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Have you got the Power save on? I find that if I switch this to save I don't suffer image retention.

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I find image retention on the 435 to be slightly better than the 434. I've used pro evo soccer on there for about 40 mins a time and have seen no retention. The only thing I have seen is that after using analogue teletext for a few mins the "teletext" logo in the top centre shows up slightly. Stays a lot longer on my mate's 434 though for some reason.

I've had mine since the week before crimbo and have had the settings quite low since then. I would like them a little more contrasty so I will be trying to raise the contrast level shortly.

Pannys are all but indistructible for this sort of thing though apparently.

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Are the picture settings on your mates 434 comparable with the settings on your 435?

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Are the picture settings on your mates 434 comparable with the settings on your 435?

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Well, the numbers for contrast/brightness etc are roughly the same but whether that translates to the same levels as the screens/media boxes are different I have no idea.

When I said it stays a lot longer, perhaps I could have worded that better as I don't mean it to sound like it's on there ages, it's not. It probably goes within a minute on mine but more like two on his for a comparable amount of time viewing.

Mind you, I still can't see the difference between all the supposed extra colours that mine can display over the 434 so I may not be the best judge of this