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Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by Dreckerplayer

We don't KNOW that!

Nagato is dead, Naruto is considered Uzumaki since he has the last name, AND uzumaki lineage.

Would Nagato have any close ties (family ties) with Naruto? Is it possible? I think he was Kakashi's age, and nothing's known of his family yet, other than his murdered parents and his belonging to the Uzumaki.

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by L Lawliet

Would Nagato have any close ties (family ties) with Naruto? Is it possible? I think he was Kakashi's age, and nothing's known of his family yet, other than his murdered parents and his belonging to the Uzumaki.

There's a possibility that, like naruto, only Nagato's mother, was an Uzumaki.His dad had black hair.Nagato inherited his red hair by chance...

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by Dreckerplayer

There's a possibility that, like naruto, only Nagato's mother, was an Uzumaki.His dad had black hair.Nagato inhereted his red hair by chance...

Wow, unbelieavable. You noticed that far... I didn't even notice it! Not even from Anime. **** this implies so many things... Like, okay, maybe most of the Uzumaki went into hiding and only a handful of them chose the life of a shinobi? Maybe many of them tried to live as civilians?

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by L Lawliet

Wow, unbelieavable. You noticed that far... I didn't even notice it! Not even from Anime. **** this implies so many things... Like, okay, maybe most of the Uzumaki went into hiding and only a handful of them chose the life of a shinobi? Maybe many of them tried to live as civilians?

Yes, of course.

A clan renowned for their incredible longevity and vitality, is more likely to have a larger amount of survivors than clans such as uchiha, kaguya, etc.

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by L Lawliet

Not mad. Frustrated, which is different. Plus, he was commanded not to tell anybody about Naruto's status as Jiinchuuriki, but telling him who his father is wasn't prohibited. If you go to chapter 455, after Naruto mentioned he met the 4th, Kakashi reveals he knew the 4th was NAruto's father... But only after Naruto knew him himself. I think that was pretty cruel, you know.

Kakashi was ordered not to reveal that information, because it would have made Naruto a target, when he was young and vulnerable. The younger Naruto, always craving attention, would not have been able to keep something like that a secret, especially when everyone was taunting him about his desire to become Hokage. Once Naruto told how he met the 4th, Kakashi figured that the 4th must have told him - or why would he have gone to the trouble of sealing part of his chakra in Naruto otherwise? At that point, there was no reason to keep protecting Naruto's identity - he was certainly strong enough to defend himself, and already knows it anyway - and he was responsible enough not to shout it out everywhere.

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by L Lawliet

So, yeah. How many Uzumaki Clan members do you think are out there? It's been to my attention that ever since Kabutomaru mentioned that Uzumakis usually have red-hair, many theories and speculations have been made about, say, Gaara (and his father, and by defect his silblings, too), Mei Terumi, and Sasori being Uzumakis themselves.

I wouldn't be surprised if Gaara ended up being an Uzumaki. He was just way too many things in common with Naruto: being a Jiinchuuriki (or former one), having/fulfilling the dream of being Kazekage, sheding tears for Sasuke, having enough control over his Bijuu (though this is debatable) and whatnot. Also, in terms of vitality, I think Gaara had been dead for a long time when Chiyo did her Reviving Jutsu. The fact that she could bring him back regardless of the time he had been dead, I think it's a remarkable characteristic of Gaara's. I don't know if this last premise makes sense for you guys but, after re-reading the whole Manga, Gaara fits in many ways the Uzumaki description. The bond he shares with Naruto is strong (this is why I'm torn between him and Shikamaru for Naruto's new best friend's position).

Mei Terumi is not a "no-no", but I personally think it would too farfetched. Same with Sasori, who is long dead. I'm really interested in what kind of relationship (if any) could there be between Karin and Naruto? I'm kind of frustrated because of the fact that everybody seems now aware of the Uzumaki Clan, but back in part 1 nobody mentioned it once. Hiruzen knew, Kabuto and Orochimaru knew, Tsunade, Jiraiya... Every damn body knew about the Uzumaki Clan. Had this Clan survived (or remained together, because Kushina said the survivors had scattered around the world) it would have been as important (or maybe even more important) as Uchiha's. Hatake Kakashi being Minato's apprentice and knowing Kushina, I'm really having a grudge against him for not acknowledging Naruto as the offspring of this pair. I mean, okay, we're shinobi and all that ****, but there's no way I can understand why the kind and cool Kakashi we know had chosen Sasuke over Naruto. That bugs me to no end, and I think Naruto would hold it against him as well. This matter has to be solved somehow in the manga. There's too much of a hole concerning this Clan and Naruto's bond with it.

As for Kishimoto, I know his style very deeply. Not to brag, but I grew up with this Manga. And his usage of symbols (which by the way resemble One Piece's Eiichiro Oda slightly) makes people like me think that the existence of a Clan to which Naruto's family belonged was implied since before it was mentioned. It's like Kishimoto enjoys our frustration and the fact that we don't know yet what's up to his mind.

To end this comment, I'd like to propose another point of discussion regarding the Clan. What about Tsunade?

Her grandpa was Senju, and her grandma was Uzumaki, right?, so that means she has that blood in her as well. Would you say she is more of a Senju than and Uzumaki or viceversa?

Well Gaara is from the Sand Village. Uzumaki lived in what was once the Whirlpool village. It is possible there are other Uzumaki out there, but does that mean every single red haired person is an Uzumaki? That would be stretching it. I'm possitive the reason Sasuke was under Kakashi's wing during the Chunin exams were because Naruto had more of an advantage against his foes then Sasuke. For him, having just received a fatal curse combined with the fact he was up against Gaara, the stakes were pretty high against him. In regards to why NO ONE, neither Kakashi or Giraya told him about his parents remains a mystery and plot puppy.

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by Sarahmint

Well Gaara is from the Sand Village. Uzumaki lived in what was once the Whirlpool village. It is possible there are other Uzumaki out there, but does that mean every single red haired person is an Uzumaki? That would be stretching it. I'm possitive the reason Sasuke was under Kakashi's wing during the Chunin exams were because Naruto had more of an advantage against his foes then Sasuke. For him, having just received a fatal curse combined with the fact he was up against Gaara, the stakes were pretty high against him. In regards to why NO ONE, neither Kakashi or Giraya told him about his parents remains a mystery and plot puppy.

Red hair is obviously a special rare genetic mutation, like the sharingan.

As for the other strange hair colors, same goes for those as well.

The red hair may have derived from a common ancestor that was an Uzumaki. Who's to say that red hair wasn't exclusive to those with Uzumaki dna?

That's like saying "Everyone born with Rinnegan, is not a descendant of the sage" or "Everyone born with shark teeth, isn't from the Hozuki clan"

Maybe Gaara isn't a direct descendant, but he still could have Uzumaki ancestry.If Gaara was a direct descendant, he would've survived his bijuu extraction.

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by Sarahmint

Well I'm possitive the reason Sasuke was under Kakashi's wing during the Chunin exams were because Naruto had more of an advantage against his foes then Sasuke. For him, having just received a fatal curse combined with the fact he was up against Gaara, the stakes were pretty high against him. In regards to why NO ONE, neither Kakashi or Giraya told him about his parents remains a mystery and plot puppy.

This, and also Kakashi was the logical choice to teach Sasuke, since he was the only other one with a Sharingan, and they both had lightning nature. Plus, at that time, Naruto was not considered to be under threat, as Jiraya hasn't made the Akatsuki existence public at that point, and instead took Naruto under his wing. Sasuke on the other hand, was known to be Orochimaru's target, and so was considered a higher priority.

Re: About Uzumakis

Gaara died right when the Bijuu was extracted. so no.

There are only 2 known Uzumaki alive (and they are likely the last 2 Uzumaki shinobi). Naruto and Karin
BUT there could be some more Uzumaki as simple villagers in the other country (like Nagato's mother was)

What I do NOT understand is that Uzushio and Konoha were partner right? Why the Uzumaki didn't go hide in the fire country as they were allies. They wouldn't need to hide as much as going all around the world.

Re: About Uzumakis

Kushina told Naruto the survivors were scattered to the 4 winds, They are living under different names probably in all Nations,so careful your next door naibor might be an Uzumaki waiting maybe for Naruto to call them back home.

Re: About Uzumakis

I really don't know why everybody states that naruto is an uzumaki, he is not. He is from the leaf village but he has uzumaki traits whereas karin and nagato might be from parents who are uzumaki clan that ran from there home after war was wage against them

Re: About Uzumakis

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by lion fang master

I really don't know why everybody states that naruto is an uzumaki, he is not. He is from the leaf village but he has uzumaki traits whereas karin and nagato might be from parents who are uzumaki clan that ran from there home after war was wage against them

Wrong Naruto's Mother was 100% Uzumaki born in the Uzumaki village as stated by Her and others Naruto was born in the leaf true,Minato was Namikaze Kushina was Uzumaki Naruto is 50% Uzumaki, thats your History lesson learn it.

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by Honord Sage

Wrong Naruto's Mother was 100% Uzumaki born in the Uzumaki village as stated by Her and others Naruto was born in the leaf true,Minato was Namikaze Kushina was Uzumaki Naruto is 50% Uzumaki, thats your History lesson learn it.

U answered ur own Q he has 50% uzumaki in him. unlike sasuke who can claim uchiha bloodline also he was born in the leaf village. What i would say is he has uzumaki traits due to his mom than say he is an uzumaki clan ninja and also I think the 3rd only used the uzumaki name only to hide the fact that he was the minato's son .

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by lion fang master

U answered ur own Q he has 50% uzumaki in him. unlike sasuke who can claim uchiha bloodline also he was born in the leaf village. What i would say is he has uzumaki traits due to his mom than say he is an uzumaki clan ninja and also I think the 3rd only used the uzumaki name only to hide the fact that he was the minato's son .

Apparently you can't see that I stated Naruto to be 50% Uzumaki, What dose being born in the village have to do with bloodlines? Senju,Uchiha,Hyuga and the rest were not originally from the Village, they founded the village but their ancestral land was some ware else.That is a Manga fact.

Re: About Uzumakis

Dude, it seems like Nagato was only 50% Uzumaki too. If you saw the anime. His mother had red hair but not the father.
Still people consider him as a full Uzumaki.
Also Karin hair are darker than usual Uzumaki and aren't that straight. This suggest also she's half Uzumaki.

Let's just take the 2 sons for example: They must have found a wife at some times. Still the bloodline got mixed up with the mother and father. Yet the childrens mostly took from the sons (eg Uchiha: hatred, chakra reserve, sharingan, dark hair, good at genjutsu, **** like that).
It's highly possible that in Narutoverse, the kids most of the time take the "best" of their parents instead of doing random 50%.
Tsunade said that Naruto mostly took from his mother (Kushina said this too).

If you take this further:
from Minato:
-Hair
-Eyes
-Figure
-Maybe one or two thing

From Kushina:
-Chakra
-Ninjutsu abilities
-Stamina
-Similar way of talking (dattebayo, etc.)
-Not suffer too much from Kyuubi chakra (I think this is some ability that he got from Kushina)
-Life force
-Body

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by Honord Sage

Apparently you can't see that I stated Naruto to be 50% Uzumaki, What dose being born in the village have to do with bloodlines? Senju,Uchiha,Hyuga and the rest were not originally from the Village, they founded the village but their ancestral land was some ware else.That is a Manga fact.

I saw ur 50% but there is a difference btw clan and village. All the clans u mentioned from the leaf but naruto is the only ninja that I can think of that was born of 2 what i was saying is naruto has uzumaki traits because of his mother but he is not not from uzumaki clan.

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by MLX

Dude, it seems like Nagato was only 50% Uzumaki too. If you saw the anime. His mother had red hair but not the father.
Still people consider him as a full Uzumaki.
Also Karin hair are darker than usual Uzumaki and aren't that straight. This suggest also she's half Uzumaki.

Let's just take the 2 sons for example: They must have found a wife at some times. Still the bloodline got mixed up with the mother and father. Yet the childrens mostly took from the sons (eg Uchiha: hatred, chakra reserve, sharingan, dark hair, good at genjutsu, **** like that).
It's highly possible that in Narutoverse, the kids most of the time take the "best" of their parents instead of doing random 50%.
Tsunade said that Naruto mostly took from his mother (Kushina said this too).

nothing in tha manga says U have to red hair to be an uzumaki ninja it's one of their traits that ppl use to identify them just like in the kakashi chronicle not all uchiha awaken their sharingan or have sharingan . As for nagato it could be that his parents are 1 of those who escaped from the war that fled and maybe they went to hidden rain village like kushina said.

Re: About Uzumakis

Originally Posted by lion fang master

nothing in tha manga says U have to red hair to be an uzumaki ninja it's one of their traits that ppl use to identify them just like in the kakashi chronicle not all uchiha awaken their sharingan or have sharingan . As for nagato it could be that his parents are 1 of those who escaped from the war that fled and maybe they went to hidden rain village like kushina said.

where was that? I completly forgot.

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I do agree. yet it doesn't mean Nagato was full Uzumaki or half only. It's something we may never know. I just supposed it would be that possibility than the other.