...everyone is just riding Apples wake trying to eek out a living. MS, Nokia... They all are just trying to catch up. Apple does not invent most of which they bring to market, they just make it desirable because it's simple, elegant, reliable and it just works out of the box.

Every time one of their competitors (MS, Nokia...) try to come out with something Appleish they just look like idiots, they are out of there league. TellMe is a perfect example! I've never heard of it until this interview. MS obviously did not think enough of it to market it... so how am I suppose to take it seriously? seriously!

The MS store is another example... there is an Apple and MS store in the mall by my house (Park Meadows). The MS store is ~3x bigger then the Apple store but I never see even half the people in the MS store that are in the Apple store... The MS store employees usually out number the customers... It's a perfect example of MS trying to be something it's not! It's pitiful that MS seems to think that they need to copy Apple. They are not perceived as "cool" like Apple and never will be so just forget it and do what you do best!

It's just not well thought out in the way it's used, and video clearly demonstrated that it's functionality is limited and unfocused. It's like Siri in many general aspects, but it's the way all these technologies are put together, including good natural language support, that makes it a breakthrough the way the original iPhone was a breakthrough in world that already had smartphone and touchscreens.

"Who am I?"

Siri: "You're Oh Omnipotent one, at least that's what you told me"

"Who are you?"

Siri: "I am Siri"

"Are you serous Siri?"

Siri: "Yes, I'm not allowed to be frivolous"

"Will you have a drink with me?"

Siri: "I found 16 bars fairly close to you"

"Are you hitting on me?"

Siri: "I'm sorry, Oh Omnipotent one, I can't answer that"

"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -

This is another example of why MS execs just don't get it - He thinks they have to study Apple's marketing.

Apple isn't eating everyone's lunch because of it's marketing. In fact, Apple's marketing up until the last few years has been practically nil. What MS clearly doesn't understand is that Apple got to where it is by producing a great User Experience. Not the best hardware, or discounts, or tricky little app, or sales pitch or by crippling the competition, but by an overall experience that ordinary people want. This is something that MS (and in fact most companies) have yet to do or even understand.

Actually marketing has been a huge part of why apple is dating everyone's lunch. An there isn't anything Negative about that. Apple has had fantasting marketing which other companies should envy, I'm still amazed at how poorly competitors market thier products. It matters.

Actually marketing has been a huge part of why apple is dating everyone's lunch. An there isn't anything Negative about that. Apple has had fantasting marketing which other companies should envy, I'm still amazed at how poorly competitors market thier products. It matters.

I like how the Galaxy S is marketed *sans that satire commercial*......

But they show like 1 commercial and that's it. They need more free publicity.

Actually marketing has been a huge part of why apple is dating everyone's lunch. An there isn't anything Negative about that. Apple has had fantasting marketing which other companies should envy, I'm still amazed at how poorly competitors market thier products. It matters.

"Actually marketing has been a huge part of why apple is dating everyone's lunch."

Tell me that that's just a typo and not a Freudian slip

"Swift generally gets you to the right way much quicker." - auxio -

"The perfect [birth]day -- A little playtime, a good poop, and a long nap." - Tomato Greeting Cards -

Pretty good for a phone due out soon, hope Apple can keep up with Nokia and Microsofts progress because thats one hell of a steep mountain to climb.

Can you provide me the link that says that is the phone they are releasing to the US? Because you are listing the specs of the currently available model, not an unknown model that hasn't been announced yet.

The problem is that many consumers are stupid. Many don't research. Because of this, you have to drum up marketing and focus on key features.

I switched from iPhone 4 to iPhone 4S. Siri is alright, I use it on occasion. The camera is better and the phone is faster. Not everyone needs to upgrade, but it's a better phone period.

Nothing would ever lure me back to a Microsoft product, but I don't deny that Windows Phone 7.5 certainly has its merits and might be a great phone for some. They can market to their crowd, in fact they should market better. But I like the Apple ecosystem.

It's just not well thought out in the way it's used, and video clearly demonstrated that it's functionality is limited and unfocused. It's like Siri in many general aspects, but it's the way all these technologies are put together, including good natural language support, that makes it a breakthrough the way the original iPhone was a breakthrough in world that already had smartphone and touchscreens.

In fact, the TellMe video is a conceptual video equivalent to the famous Apple Knowledge Navigator. This is what every other company does, they fantasize about releasing "magical" products while Apple actually does it.

In reality, Microsoft TellMe is nothing like the concept video. If you search for Microsoft TellMe you will find the website and upon further investigation the website is linked to Windows Phone 7 speech recognition. The website is also quite clear that you are expected to remember and use specific commands. The list of commands follows.

Tellme used to be a customer of mine prior to their acquisition by Microsoft. Their technology is really based on 'voice navigation of the web'. AT&T is/was one of their largest customers. Siri is based on AI technology developed at Stanford Research Institute (SRI hence the name 'Siri'). This interview is another M$ executive saying 'we have that too' without really knowing what he's talking about. It's not that Tellme isn't good technology, it's just different than Siri. You can access Tellme on ANY cell phone. Most people who use Tellme are completely unaware they are using it. Siri, on the other hand, is specifically accessed by the user and only (today) available on the iPhone 4S...

You know that video isn't real right? It's just one of those fake videos that Microsoft do something showing where they are taking their technology.

That demo shows interactivity way beyond what Siri is at the moment. If that were in Windows Phone 7.5 it would have been a huge deal.

In Windows Phone 7.5 Tellme is a voice recognition and command system which, beyond the basic stuff like making a call or sending a text, hooks into the existing Bing local search stuff which isn't that far removed from the Bing app on iPad/iPhone (which you should download and check out BTW).

As it stands the list of Tellme commands is only a small fraction of what Siri understands (you can't add a reminder, set an alarm or add a meeting for example) and is locked to Bing so asking something like "what is the distance to the moon?" or "what is the maximum air speed of a dragonfly?" will just get you a Bing answer instead of pulling the result from Wolfram Alpha like Siri.

You know that video isn't real right? It's just one of those fake videos that Microsoft do something showing where they are taking their technology.

I thought I made that abundantly clear with my comments about the video. Plus the video speaks for itself. It found hotel locations that seat 250 people for a weeding on a particular day. Without APIs that tie into websites or some other backend system that just isn't possible data to retrieve. Even then such a system could be easily gamed.

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As it stands the list of Tellme commands is only a small fraction of what Siri understands.

It's slightly above Apple's Voice Commands system in that it can address and send a text using speech-to-text and it can open an app, which is a pretty pointless action in and of itself.

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You know, it seems like MS does this a lot. They get asked something Apple is doing and they sort of snort and claim they've been doing that without getting any credit, and it's just that Apple is good at marketing.

What's scary is that they may actually believe it. That the only difference between Apple's successes and their own failures is marketing, and that the half-assed, user hostile versions of things they put on the market are just as good as what Apple does, but Apple cheats because they have some kind of mysterious mind control thing going on. If only people would just take of their Apple blinkers, they'd see that Microsoft has all this totally awesome user experience stuff too.

Those stupid blue-sky MS of the future concept videos, like the one linked to earlier, are part of the problem. It's almost as if they think that because they've made a video about what they might do if they ever get around to it, they should get credit for shipping product. I notice that video featured (in addition to the hilariously capable natural language recognition) a casually referenced TV interface (a brief shot of a "view on phone/TV" menu item) and a Kinect gesture to chose images on the TV.

Cool! Why not just freaking do it, MS? You have the parts, why are you dicking around with videos? Is it because getting all those parts to work together is really hard? Can you not do really hard?

Apple is about integration. They've been building out an integrated meta-platform for over 10 years. They don't have warring internal factions, the OS X people aren't sabotaging Apple TV because of turf battles, the iPod Touch doesn't get hamstrung because the iPhone people are jealous of their empire. If MS wants to whine about how they don't get credit for being innovative, then for god's sake stop letting your lieutenants create autonomous silos and pick a master plan and freaking stick to it. You don't get to complain if you can't execute.

They spoke of the sayings and doings of their commander, the grand duke, and told stories of his kindness and irascibility.

You know, it seems like MS does this a lot. They get asked something Apple is doing and they sort of snort and claim they've been doing that without getting any credit, and it's just that Apple is good at marketing.

What's scary is that they may actually believe it. That the only difference between Apple's successes and their own failures is marketing, and that the half-assed, user hostile versions of things they put on the market are just as good as what Apple does, but Apple cheats because they have some kind of mysterious mind control thing going on. If only people would just take of their Apple blinkers, they'd see that Microsoft has all this totally awesome user experience stuff too.

Those stupid blue-sky MS of the future concept videos, like the one linked to earlier, are part of the problem. It's almost as if they think that because they've made a video about what they might do if they ever get around to it, they should get credit for shipping product. I notice that video featured (in addition to the hilariously capable natural language recognition) a casually referenced TV interface (a brief shot of a "view on phone/TV" menu item) and a Kinect gesture to chose images on the TV.

Cool! Why not just freaking do it, MS? You have the parts, why are you dicking around with videos? Is it because getting all those parts to work together is really hard? Can you not do really hard?

Apple is about integration. They've been building out an integrated meta-platform for over 10 years. They don't have warring internal factions, the OS X people aren't sabotaging Apple TV because of turf battles, the iPod Touch doesn't get hamstrung because the iPhone people are jealous of their empire. If MS wants to whine about how they don't get credit for being innovative, then for god's sake stop letting your lieutenants create autonomous silos and pick a master plan and freaking stick to it. You don't get to complain if you can't execute.

post of the year.

AppleInsider = Apple-in-cider.It's a joke!

I've used macs since 1985 when I typed up my first research paper. Never used anything else never wanted to.

"In a sense, you know, many people were disappointed with [Apple's] newest phone because it wasn't a completely new thing, so the only thing they really had to hammer on was that feature," Mundie said. "Maybe we need to pick a feature and hammer on it harder."

Yeah, because dual core processors are nothing new.

So how many Windows phones have dual core?..

...obviously if dual core is nothing new, why bother.

Better than my Bose, better than my Skullcandy's, listening to Mozart through my LeBron James limited edition PowerBeats by Dre is almost as good as my Sennheisers.

Look at the YouTube thing, posted a few months ago, that someone posted the URL for (look above). Typical Microsoft marketing. It's fishy. The whole thing has the stink of a Microsoft "vision of the future." The tipoff: the dialogue is perfect. It's not just natural language, it's elliptical, and one of the questions would have to be repeated to make sense. Tip-off: the tablet at the end doesn't exist, and it seems to be running WP7!

If you need someone to TELL you "voice control that works" is a game-changer, pure sci-fi, everything changes now function - it make me wonder who is actually in charge of not just marketing but the entire strategy......

It's just not well thought out in the way it's used, and video clearly demonstrated that it's functionality is limited and unfocused. It's like Siri in many general aspects, but it's the way all these technologies are put together, including good natural language support, that makes it a breakthrough the way the original iPhone was a breakthrough in world that already had smartphone and touchscreens.

I'm sorry but to me it seems like you're just jealous that Apple copied MS's TellMe and named it Siri.