Eke, have you played around w/ tip rolling the 1p2s? I'm just asking per Tupac's notes in his comparison against the JH13s, SE5 way, etc.

I've been on the fence about the 1p2s for a long time and ended up flipping the coin in the direction of the 334s as I tend to prefer a thicker, bassier presentation. With Tupac's comparison I'm eyeing the 1p2s in the classifieds right now, but this is pulling me away again. Oh what to do...

In any case, thanks for your hard work here. It's been a pleasure to follow as new IEMs have been added.

You mentioned that the ergonomics and microphonics are so bad, which they are but are not bothersome to me, that you might as well just buy a full-sized can. But for me, I do need something closed and transportable. Do you feel the 1p2 is on the level of the HD600 or HD800 in your opinion? How do they equate, in quality, to the top cans you'd rather wear?

Well, I guess most of the problems stem from the cable...it really is quite stiff and microphonic. For a portable listening device, I expect so much more. The standard Westone type cable of the ASG-2 puts the 1Plus 2's cable to shame. It's really an issue for me to move around with the 1P2 because of the cable, prompting me to sit perfectly still while listening so it doesn't brush on my clothes or desk. Maybe it's because I'm using the westone cable as my point of reference.

Technically, the 1P2 is about on the same level as my HD600 to my ears, and the soundstage width is the same. Imaging and depth are slightly behind the HD600 though. They share a lot of tonal similarities, but the midrange is less full and less forward on the 1P2, and the HD600 has a bit more thump to it.

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Originally Posted by bobeau

Eke, have you played around w/ tip rolling the 1p2s? I'm just asking per Tupac's notes in his comparison against the JH13s, SE5 way, etc.

I've been on the fence about the 1p2s for a long time and ended up flipping the coin in the direction of the 334s as I tend to prefer a thicker, bassier presentation. With Tupac's comparison I'm eyeing the 1p2s in the classifieds right now, but this is pulling me away again. Oh what to do...

In any case, thanks for your hard work here. It's been a pleasure to follow as new IEMs have been added.

I did play round with tips, but ultimately settled on the Ortofon tips that were sent to me along with the 1P2.

The 334 and 1P2 really are quite different. The ASG-2 actually gets slightly closer to the 1P2's sound sig than the 334, but they're still worlds apart. If you love one signature, I don't know how much you'll like the other, though you'll appreciate what each brings to the table.

Well, I guess most of the problems stem from the cable...it really is quite stiff and microphonic. For a portable listening device, I expect so much more. The standard Westone type cable of the ASG-2 puts the 1Plus 2's cable to shame. It's really an issue for me to move around with the 1P2 because of the cable, prompting me to sit perfectly still while listening so it doesn't brush on my clothes or desk. Maybe it's because I'm using the westone cable as my point of reference.

How I felt about the 1Plus2 compared to the IE8 cable. That being said, when I'm on the move, it isn't too much of an issue. Two options, tuck the cable behind a button on your shirt, and/or utilise the cable relief. I actually have more issues plugging it at home at my table for the reasons you mentioned. The cable is definitely a huge issue that should be fixed i.e. to have no microphonics whatsoever. Hence, my previous question in the last page, how hard is it to protect the cable and prevent microphonics. Surely, it isn't that bad.

How I felt about the 1Plus2 compared to the IE8 cable. That being said, when I'm on the move, it isn't too much of an issue. Two options, tuck the cable behind a button on your shirt, and/or utilise the cable relief. I actually have more issues plugging it at home at my table for the reasons you mentioned. The cable is definitely a huge issue that should be fixed i.e. to have no microphonics whatsoever. Hence, my previous question in the last page, how hard is it to protect the cable and prevent microphonics. Surely, it isn't that bad.

I agree. However, it's still a better option than carrying around headphones. I can plug it in my iphone and be perfectly ok.

Listening to eke's test tracks A/B ing the ASG-2 and 334, I can hear what he is talking about. I had not heard or heard of the 334 when I designed the ASG-2 almost a year ago but I'd say to my ears they share similarities. I do prefer the overall more analog warm sound the ASG-2 has. The 334 to my ears is the smoothest (less-gritty) BA based IEM I have personally heard.

I think that I will work on a new cross valve mod which will have an impact on bass below about 60Hz on the ASG-2. This should shift the bass valve function down a slight bit frequency wise which should lower its effect in the lower mids 200 -400 Hz ish also.

The ASG-2 has been well accepted in its target market of musicians. The ASG-1 Rev 1.3 has also been a big hit. Thanks to everyone for all the impressions from everyone, we really appreciate everyone's interest in the ASG-2 for the audiophile market. The comparisons from many people really help us know which way to tune an IEM and make course corrections if needed. We listen to customers and suggestions.

Although I have only been designing in-ears for about two years (those made for high quality music) I have been designing headphones and other things for a much longer... Well back to work, we are always working on new things and mods to existing products in a continuing effort to bring the best quality products to the market at a fair price while making everything in the USA.

Listening to eke's test tracks A/B ing the ASG-2 and 334, I can hear what he is talking about. I had not heard or heard of the 334 when I designed the ASG-2 almost a year ago but I'd say to my ears they share similarities. I do prefer the overall more analog warm sound the ASG-2 has. The 334 to my ears is the smoothest (less-gritty) BA based IEM I have personally heard.

I think that I will work on a new cross valve mod which will have an impact on bass below about 60Hz on the ASG-2. This should shift the bass valve function down a slight bit frequency wise which should lower its effect in the lower mids 200 -400 Hz ish also.

The ASG-2 has been well accepted in its target market of musicians. The ASG-1 Rev 1.3 has also been a big hit. Thanks to everyone for all the impressions from everyone, we really appreciate everyone's interest in the ASG-2 for the audiophile market. The comparisons from many people really help us know which way to tune an IEM and make course corrections if needed. We listen to customers and suggestions.

Although I have only been designing in-ears for about two years (those made for high quality music) I have been designing headphones and other things for a much longer... Well back to work, we are always working on new things and mods to existing products in a continuing effort to bring the best quality products to the market at a fair price while making everything in the USA.

I'm highly interested in that cross valve mod, especially since I just e-mailed Andy about upgrading my 1.3s. Hopefully we can work things out! I think this might be close to or actually be my endgame (at least for a long while) on my IEM journey. I still might get a completely neutral, but if the ASG-2s do what I think they'll do, then I'll be extremely happy.

I'm highly interested in that cross valve mod, especially since I just e-mailed Andy about upgrading my 1.3s. Hopefully we can work things out! I think this might be close to or actually be my endgame (at least for a long while) on my IEM journey. I still might get a completely neutral, but if the ASG-2s do what I think they'll do, then I'll be extremely happy.

I just decided to work on one so until it is done it will not be available. I am not going to rush through it either for obvious reasons.

I just decided to work on one so until it is done it will not be available. I am not going to rush through it either for obvious reasons.

I'm patient. Hopefully it can be incorporated to existing models. If not I won't cry over it :) The ASG-2, to my recollection, is already an amazing sounding IEM, that would only make it better in subbass.

Listening to eke's test tracks A/B ing the ASG-2 and 334, I can hear what he is talking about. I had not heard or heard of the 334 when I designed the ASG-2 almost a year ago but I'd say to my ears they share similarities. I do prefer the overall more analog warm sound the ASG-2 has. The 334 to my ears is the smoothest (less-gritty) BA based IEM I have personally heard.

I think that I will work on a new cross valve mod which will have an impact on bass below about 60Hz on the ASG-2. This should shift the bass valve function down a slight bit frequency wise which should lower its effect in the lower mids 200 -400 Hz ish also.

The ASG-2 has been well accepted in its target market of musicians. The ASG-1 Rev 1.3 has also been a big hit. Thanks to everyone for all the impressions from everyone, we really appreciate everyone's interest in the ASG-2 for the audiophile market. The comparisons from many people really help us know which way to tune an IEM and make course corrections if needed. We listen to customers and suggestions.

Although I have only been designing in-ears for about two years (those made for high quality music) I have been designing headphones and other things for a much longer... Well back to work, we are always working on new things and mods to existing products in a continuing effort to bring the best quality products to the market at a fair price while making everything in the USA.

More companies should have the same attitude towards customer reviews like you!
Really looking forward to some EU distributors! All these reviews made me want to try the ASG-2 really bad, but customs/taxes are... do I have to say more?