The Chicago Tribune has finally reverted away from home-town boosterism of the President and is now telling him to, essentially, admit that his signature achievement is toast:

"[President Barack Obama] crusaded for [obamacare] and has embraced its nickname. But he did not write the law. Congress did. Major changes are necessary  he has stipulated by his actions that this law as constituted cannot work  and Congress should legislate them for his review."

"Bottom line: Lets delay and rewrite this ill-conceived law. Congress need not start from scratch. Lawmakers can build on what all of us have learned from three years of painful trial and error. Three years of attempting, but failing, to make this clumsy monstrosity work for the American people."

By all means, let us have a, ah, temporary delay in implementation  which is Beltway-speak (sorry about that) for let us kill this monstrosity, throw it into an unmarked grave in federally-protected wetlands, pour lye into the hole, cover it up, go home, and never speak of this ever again.

As bad as Obama-care gets as long as more people are covered under it than were without it the Dems will win the public opinion battle, esp if the GOP position is ‘things were great before O-care’ . Wait till the medicaid expansion.

Now if they (GOP) could effectively trot out victims of Obama care on camera and get them at town hall meetings and in front of congress telling horror stories then they would be fighting back.

To your point : I can see where a GOP POTUS nominee is going to have real problems against Hillary if he has to say that things were great in 2008 to get through his 2016 primary.

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posted on 08/20/2013 6:51:55 AM PDT
by sickoflibs
(To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)

I know that's the conventional wisdom, but wouldn't a move to single-payer require a law as grand as "Obamacare" in order to implement? I thoroughly believe Obamacare will fail, but just because it does, doesn't mean the government will automatically default to rule by fiat. And while it's wishful thinking, I would hope that the GOP would jump in at some point and say, "it's time to return to the old system, with a few tweaks..."

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posted on 08/20/2013 6:54:32 AM PDT
by Lou L
(Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")

RE :”We need the GOP to get off the sideline and propose something. Something which honestly helps Americans, and helps all Americans who are currently on the sidelines.”

Don't hold your breath for that but I been saying for a couple years now that instead of these silly symbolic house fake repeals the GOP should have been promoting a bill that lets individual states completely opt out of Obama-care including the taxes and mandates.(and make it deficit neutral, a toxic idea for many here if it means higher taxes even on blue states)

So the Blue states stay in and the Red states jump out, and the purple states???

Then the red states could do nothing, or they could try their own reform and we can see how the blue states do.

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posted on 08/20/2013 7:00:57 AM PDT
by sickoflibs
(To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)

I'll propose something. Let's go back to what we had before the ObamaCare crap hit the streets. There was no one uncovered. If someone was sick, they showed up at the hospital and they were treated.

More importantly, we have the best health care in the world: whether treatment, research, facilities, specialties, etc., we have the best in the world.

My grandson is being treated right now for a type of cancer. They are harvesting stem cells from his own body and these will be grown, reintroduced to his body, and will immeasurably aid in his treatment. Afterwards, they do some variety of immune cell therapy created by the best minds in the world. If you want the best, then you make it worth their while. If you want Tylenol prescribers, then you rename your EMS level workers as doctors. But you get what you pay for.

For this we need the best doctors in the world, and they need to be paid at world-class levels to bring the best minds into health care. ObamaCare already has folks talking about our best and brightest going elsewhere to seek their fortune.

In Luke 5, Jesus said that the sick need a physician (Luke 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick. )

Obama is driving the physicians out of the practice.

Jesus says they do and Obama says they don't.

My plan: leave the best system in the world alone.

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posted on 08/20/2013 7:12:42 AM PDT
by xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)

Asking The GOVERNMENT to “offer something national regarding health-care.” will get you nothing but bigger government

You are believing the lie. There is NO ONE who would be refused emergency care in any hospital in the USA

So the “30 million” without insurance are already sponging off the rest of us... and you want a GOVERNMENT PROGRAM to fix that????????

A GOVERNMENT PROGRAM??????????????

before the government got involved in health care doctors used to make house calls and everyone was taken care of by friends and neighbors and charities- all the government did was make it big and fat an bloated so that 70% of the money is lost in the bureaucracy (like EVERY government program)

Don't display your idiocy here... Demanding that “we must do something” will fly much better on libtard sites.

RE :”I’ll propose something. Let’s go back to what we had before the ObamaCare crap hit the streets. There was no one uncovered. If someone was sick, they showed up at the hospital and they were treated. “

Here in Maryland they tax hospital bills of those of us who pay to go into a fund to pay for those hospital bills from those that have no insurance.

So while in some states that appears to be on the surface free soaking the hospitals(who have to charge someone for it BTW), here we get a direct bill for it that we see.

Congress created this problem under Reagan.

That definitely doesnt work.

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posted on 08/20/2013 7:20:45 AM PDT
by sickoflibs
(To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)

No, it’s not “compassion”, it only looks like it on the surface. They overbill me and mine and others to recoup the expense of the “charitable” treatment...just like all the rest of the folks who get emergency treatment at little to no costs.

Ever wonder why an MRI is billed at say $1500 but is only “allowed” $350 or so? Why are 2 Tylenol $50? Because they’re trying to get money from others to recover their “charity”.

Concierge services are where it’s at...get the damnable insurance companies, lawyers, politicians and the rest of the scum out of the medical profession.

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posted on 08/20/2013 7:37:48 AM PDT
by SZonian
(Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)

I couldn’t care less how the old system was viewed. It resulted in the best medical treatment in the history of the world.

If it was broke, then someone forgot to tell those who had hearts restored, cancer cured, limbs re-attached, and lives extended.

Anything that goes on the cheap with the doctors and researchers is something I don’t support.

Anything that advances better organization, management, efficiencies, etc., is something I would support. That isn’t ObamaCare, it isn’t single payer, it isn’t anything with any kind of death panel, and it isn’t anything dreamed up on the spur of the moment by a bunch of rinos so they have an alternative plan for political purposes.

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posted on 08/20/2013 7:46:25 AM PDT
by xzins
(Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)

We do not need a “counterproposal” from the dimwits. All we need is a bill that would allow hospitals to compete and offer their own health plans, to allow physician-owned hospitals and charity hospitals to expand and to be created.

We don’t need RomeybamaCare and we are better off without a “replacement”

geez.. i had to re-read your post to make sure I got it- it is so fundamentally stupid at a level i have not seen on FR in years.

You talk about how there is laready massive intrusion in heath care by the government and yet miss the point that it is for that reason there is a problem in the first place, and say we need more government intrusion to fix it??????

seriously? is that what you mean? There is massive government intrusion so we need MORE government intrusion?

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