“This record was more about four musicians in a room playing live. It was important for us. It was a different experience, but in a good way.”

Elephant Stone finds Dhir using less sitar and other Indian instrumentation than on the previous record, although he did teach himself to play the dilruba, another Indian stringed instrument but bowed, not unlike a cello.

“I didn’t know anybody who played it, and I wanted it on the record, so I bought one and taught myself.

“It’s not the best ever, but it sounds good with a lot of reverb on it,” Dhir joked.

He’s been playing the sitar since about 2000, studying seriously and actively looking for ways to use it in his writing.

“It has to serve the song, but I’m always trying to incorporate it,” Dhir said.

“I’ve always been surrounded by Indian music. I grew up with the music of Bollywood. My parents would watch those movies all the time.

“But I also listened to bands like, obviously, The Beatles, who are my favorite. I’m not doing anything new, but there aren’t many bands doing it now, so hopefully we’re doing it in a way that doesn’t sound like any other band.”