I'm looking for a replacement dial if anyone has one they are willing to part with for a reasonable fee. Watch is a 705 - 13 with the case inscribed as 1934. Dial is 25mm h x 21mm w. I need a crystal too (25.0mm x 20.5mm) so if anyone has spare stock....

While i'm in a begging mood......if anyone has a red seconds hand for a Pan-Am, i'm looking for one of those too.

I'm 'pretty sure' the dial is original given its condition and the amount of 'gunk' around it and it actually fits the case / dial cover fairly well. I've cleaned up the case etc since those pics were taken and it looks much more presentable now. As for the red seconds hand....i figgered as much.

I have the same model in White gold filled, same dial, even the very strange 10, although the second hand track on mine is different
When I first received it I thought it was a redial because of that 10,
I believe the Models are Strap 134 for the Yellow Gold and 135 for the White

Interesting. I just know that font from Elgin dials, but I suppose perhaps Gruen used it too. Another possibility - I usually see that odd font on NOS Elgin dials. It's never been 100% clear to me whether these are in fact from the Elgin factory, or aftermarket replacement dials made by a third party. If that's the case, maybe similar styles were made for more than just Elgin.

This just as I received it. Same movement, same case maker. the marking around the the second hand is different

The dial fits in the same way as Mickeys.

The dial seems to be finished in the same way.

It does look like a match to the Elgin, It does not match the watch in the Collectors Book,
My case back number, is 230 later that Mickeys, which might lead me to believe that they were from the same batch?
Maybe the factory had a group of old stock watches re dialed to modernise them.