Ok Coleman is a better wrestler than Randy how? I mean please provide some kind of reasoning for that kind of statement. Coleman may have wrestling credentials from college, but that doesn't make him a better wrestler in MMA, I think we have proven that fact especially with GSP's dismantling of Kos in their fight. And really, who the hell has Colemen beat since 1997? Can you name a single victory that is even worthy of mentioning?

I'm not dimantling his accomplishments I agree that he is one of the best heavyweights in the world, but I don't think that he would beat Couture. And I've seen lots of his fights and he is impressive but I still don't think he could beat Couture.

You are "dimantling" them.

P.S: A thread titled "I think Couture can beat Fedor" with only one--or perhaps even zero--exclamation points will draw a lot less heat than this one did.

How am I dismantling his accomplishments please enlighten me. I wanted it to draw heat so that people knew how I felt about Couture and Fedor, also I agree that Coleman is nothing in wrestling compared to Couture.

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Well, he dominated Shogun Rua. But yes, you can make the argument that there really is no proof that he is a better wrestler than Couture other than credentials. Coleman actually made the Olympic team and placed in Barcelona, Couture couldn't make the team. Close, but never made it. That's my only evidence, so ya got me. But.. I still think the Coleman fights were significant in proving Fedor could beat a top level wrestler. And Coleman is still hinted at coming to the UFC, so maybe we can add evidence to my argument.

How am I dismantling his accomplishments please enlighten me. I wanted it to draw heat so that people knew how I felt about Couture and Fedor, also I agree that Coleman is nothing in wrestling compared to Couture.

Well you've certainly "dismantled' his accomplishments by saying he could be beaten by the likes of some of the guys you mentioned.

Fedor has beaten arguably the two number one strikers in the world (Filipovic, Hunt) and he's trained extensively with a man people consider to be one of the best strikers ever in Hoost.

He's beaten some of the best and strongest wrestlers in the world (Lindland, Coleman, Randleman, Fujita)

He's beaten some of the best grapplers in the world (Big Nog, Babalu, Arona)

What else does the guy have to prove? I'm not saying it wouldn't be a good fight between he and Couture, but... Cheick Kongo? hahaha

How am I dismantling his accomplishments please enlighten me. I wanted it to draw heat so that people knew how I felt about Couture and Fedor, also I agree that Coleman is nothing in wrestling compared to Couture.

Well you've certainly "dismantled' his accomplishments by saying he could be beaten by the likes of some of the guys you mentioned.

Fedor has beaten arguably the two number one strikers in the world (Filipovic, Hunt) and he's trained extensively with a man people consider to be one of the best strikers ever in Hoost.

He's beaten some of the best and strongest wrestlers in the world (Lindland, Coleman, Randleman, Fujita)

He's beaten some of the best grapplers in the world (Big Nog, Babalu, Arona)

What else does the guy have to prove? I'm not saying it wouldn't be a good fight between he and Couture, but... Cheick Kongo? hahaha

so basically what you gusy are saying is that fedor is invincible, just like GSp was until he got KOed, just like Cro Cop was before he got KTFO, and just like how Jardine was gunna run through Alexander, what you guys have to realize is that Fedor is beatable.

Actually...pretty much everyone knew that GSP/CroCop were gonna be tough to beat but not invinceable. Its just that no one thought they would get beat by the people they did. And Jardine, well that was just a sloppy performance.

Fedor is beatable, but it is still gonna take one hell of a fighter to beat Fedor. Is that fighter Randy Couture? Maybe. But we will have to wait to find out.

True, however no one ever expected GSP, Cro Cop and Jardine to lose and the people that the lost to are said to be the 3 greatest upsets in MMA history, now if your saying it's gunna take a special fighter to take out Fedor, alot of people said the same think about GSP and that he would rule the division as the champ for a long time, but he got KO by and underdog. Same thing with Cro Cop people said he was gunna wreck havoc on the HW division and look what happened to him. It's possible that's what I'm trying to get across to everyone but everyone keeps thinking that Im putting him down which I'm not Im just saying that it is very possible for him to lose his next fight, and he's not invincible.

I think Couture vs. Fedor would be one of the greatest heavyweight fights to date. The thing we need to realize is that Fedor and Couture are two of the best tactical fighters in the world. They both come in with a game plan, and they both execute to perfection. Randy's style has changed incredibly over the years, and both men put a lot of thought in how to beat their opponent. They study like crazy and capitalize on the other fighter's weakness. Mark Hunt - submit. Cro Cop - keep him back pedaling. Nogueira - stand up. Fujita - get stunned? clench up, take him down, and submit him. Not like Diego Sanchez and Kos who all of a sudden think they're stand-up fighters. They don't try to prove themselves to the world in areas that they are weak (Couture and Fedor). They study their opponents and capitalize on the areas that they are weak. This would be an incredible match up. I don't think there are two smarter men in the world of fighting.

I think Couture vs. Fedor would be one of the greatest heavyweight fights to date. The thing we need to realize is that Fedor and Couture are two of the best tactical fighters in the world. They both come in with a game plan, and they both execute to perfection. Randy's style has changed incredibly over the years, and both men put a lot of thought in how to beat their opponent. They study like crazy and capitalize on the other fighter's weakness. Mark Hunt - submit. Cro Cop - keep him back pedaling. Nogueira - stand up. Fujita - get stunned? clench up, take him down, and submit him. Not like Diego Sanchez and Kos who all of a sudden think they're stand-up fighters. They don't try to prove themselves to the world in areas that they are weak (Couture and Fedor). They study their opponents and capitalize on the areas that they are weak. This would be an incredible match up. I don't think there are two smarter men in the world of fighting.

Taylor with all do respect you're a JACKASS. Sure Fedor can be beaten but you listed 5 or 6 guys that you think will beat him and they are not in his league. Have you not watched Fedor fight? I have no problem with you thinking Randy can beat Fedor, but it seems like you have No respect for Fedor at all.

first off who do you think you are to call me a jackass, yes I've watched Fedor fight but I'm stating that no matter which fight you are you can lose, and I don't see how you don't think any of the fighters I listed aren't in his league, the same thing was once again said for GSP vs. Serra and Cro Cop vs. Gonzaga, so I don't understand any of you F@@King logic