Yeah, let me just point out, before we close this thread, why I bothered commenting on it. I'm in a guild now with representation but that's a relatively new thing. And I know you folks do great work, for free. We all benefit, whether we know or acknowledge it. But to go from Feb to June without a comment? Looks bad. Like a club within a club. We constantly complain about NG and lack of communication. Now there's yet another filter. Yes, information is disseminated within guilds and here and there on the forum, but the optics here are bad. Remember the attention span and that the average forum user doesn't read every thread. Again, commenting mainly on the optics to those who aren't in the special club.

@GrimGael anyone can be in this "special club" and this thread isn't meant for just GC members to comment on it was a collective unit.

This thread typically got the most action when an update is announced or shortly afterwards typically because just like many players that are frustrated individually players decided to come together and try and help NG collectively hear our thoughts.

I have never seen anyone whom asked for their guild to be represented get turned away.

You have been on the forums longer than this thread has been around. Surely if you wanted in to the "special club" your acceptance would have been immediate.

There is no sheisty thing going on simply because there was nothing worth updating this thread about. It was necro'd once 2.6 was announced and @masmith93 immiedietly pointed out those who request representation have a place amongst members.

I know the powerball lottery exists but I cannot be mad each week when I don't win if I didn't play.

Nah, I enquired a long time ago but no response. I'm still the same guy. But that's ok. I'm in a heavily represented guild family now.
And I don't know how I could have made it more clear the comment was about optics, not substance. But it was about optics not substance. I know a bit more now than the average bear about how it is working behind the scenes. I hope it's noted and a bit more directed towards the average bear and openness in the new thread. It's pretty clear things have risen and fallen between Feb and Jun and I don't want you guys getting stagnant or people getting the wrong impression.

The GC is not a bunch of politicians so we never worried about "optics" or anyone's perception of us.

Jester and I and a handful of others simply started the GC to try and get a collective that could work with NG to try and make the game better...it was really that simple...there was no secret club or handshakes or kickbacks or anything else some might think.

It was and still is a group of people using their free time to try and make things better...some things have succeeded...and some haven't I'm sorry to say

I understand it's the internet and there are going to be haters/trolls/skeptics/whatever...but the GC is not stagnant...while there have been ebbs and flows we've never stopped trying...some of us more than others

I know I probably can't change your mind but the above is the simple truth...and best wishes to you!

P.S. @zbot@Teeceezy Can we please close this thread as Jester has started a new one already to keep people updated on things...thank you