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I'm pretty sure the Queen is just a puppet and the fellow commanders would rather follow Luscinia no matter how dirty his methods are. Well, some might defect, or a civil war might break out as the differences in idealogies (as well as the fact that Luscinia seems to hold all the cards) will cause a power struggle to take place.

Oh certainly. While I'm sure some of them hold to the high ideals they supposedly espouse, I think it's a given that most, if not all, are more than willing to get their hands dirty to achieve it. You don't become a general otherwise, and I thought it was telling that they greatly insinuated that the demure Vasant was once quite the bloodthirsty conniver herself. It'll be interesting to see whether Luscinia has any of them in his confidence, or if he's pulling the wool over everyone's eyes that aren't members of the Guild. It's a certainty he's keeping our loli-empress out of the loop.

It's less certain how many of the Generals he's keeping in the dark. Since some of them, it seems, were conquered by Ades...then put into a position of power, I wouldn't be surprised if Luscinia has taken some of them into his confidence if it turns out he doesn't give a rat's arse about world peace, and it's all a smokescreen for something else.

What I'm most curious about after watching this episode is to find out how the Guild was downgraded to mere servants/bodyguards of the Ades Federation. It's a very different social relationship that we're used to seeing concerning the Guild from the first series. And, a bigger question: why just Ades?

Anyways, seems we'll be returning to some fleet battles next episode. Probably high time for Ades to strike at the Sky Pirates, considering how many supplies/ships they must have lost to them over the years, not even counting what Fam is currently stealing.

Oh, and Giselle may start to question why they are doing what they are doing, but I can't see it actually resulting in a whole lot. That said, my secret hope is that Fam/Giselle/Millia end up being their own faction that ends up in direct confrontation with BOTH Ades and Anatory, as I think it'd spice things up if our heroes from the previous series end up being antagonists down the road in this one.

a very good question......
Battle wise, Anatoray should be able to handle themselves...
Ship wise, not looking good....
don't know if there ships can handle Ades ships

Anatoray's ships were more or less designed to combat Disith's ships coming from above, right? Ades ships seem to be better able to combat threats from both above and below them (and even at the same altitude)...

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I'm pretty sure the Queen is just a puppet and the fellow commanders would rather follow Luscinia no matter how dirty his methods are. Well, some might defect, or a civil war might break out as the differences in idealogies (as well as the fact that Luscinia seems to hold all the cards) will cause a power struggle to take place.

Maybe...of course some who still hold loyalty to Augusta's mother may side with her....Her influence seems strong in the nation

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I hope we get to see Roshana again, she sound like a backstabber...She so knew Millia was disguised as the "shota" too and she knows a lot about the Grand Race and hints about the event not being what it seems. Considering Tatiana asked about the Grand Race, I get the feeling it wasn't about peace at all and is linked quite closely with the plot.

Alister giving tips to Gisey. I wonder what she told Tatiana when she "spoke" her mind. Also, Gisey might start to ask questions about Anatoray real soon. And looks like Anatoray might be far away from the Grand Lake if they take the "Northern route" to get there. Oh and Fam reaction to her missing ships was funny. I think somebody didn't exact understood the deal that she made.

Luscinia is an idiot. The Ades federation is build with the remains of all the countries they conquered. Lots of bad blood everywhere (Vasant is a good example) that is kept in check by letting Aristocrat act like "pigs". Purging "moderates" isn't going to make more people likes you and fear doesn't make strong countries. At this speed, Millia and/or Anatoray are going to be seen as saviors and loli-Empress is going to get herself killed. I'm starting to think she isn't the daughter of the old Empress too.

Preview for next episode looks like the Ades Fed will finally attack the Sky Pirates for stealing their ships.

That's if Luscinia is not going to attempt to off Augusta later anyway....very strong hints he's following some plan of his own

Anatoray's ships were more or less designed to combat Disith's ships coming from above, right? Ades ships seem to be better able to combat threats from both above and below them (and even at the same altitude)...

Anatoray's standard warships has been converted to a vanship aircarft carrier with battleship functions.

In Last Exile season 1, the closest "Missile Guided Destroyers" type warship would be Anatoray's Urbanus class. Urbanus's aerial torpedos acts like modern day cruise missiles.

Ades Federation's battleships are like WWII battleships, while Urbanus class warships are like modern day American missile guided warships. The Urbanus class still has battleship functions.

Silvius is a hybrid submarine/battleship/aircarft carrier. I don't know if Silvius is armed with Urbanus's torpedos.

Some theories have been that either Silvana is with Sophia or that the Silvius is a very well re-fitted Silvana.

But I was thinking that Silvius was like Silvana+Urbanus a few weeks ago. It might be that the designs were using Silvana's and Urbanus's.

It's interesting though. I think the 2 years ago reference for when Silvius first appeared has to be at least a few months after the first scenes in the Last Exile Sunadokei no Tabibito since only a regular Anatoray battle ship is featured so far. Alis and Tatiana aren't near what they would have had in the Silvius in terms of rank or even the ship itself.

I think the 2 years ago reference for when Silvius first appeared has to be at least a few months after the first scenes in the Last Exile Sunadokei no Tabibito since only a regular Anatoray battle ship is featured so far. Alis and Tatiana aren't near what they would have had in the Silvius in terms of rank or even the ship itself.

Tatiana isn't really far away, she's already Vice-Captain. The true mystery is the Silvius showing up, but the comment was 2 years after the end of the first series.

It's quite possible the last scene on Earth happen after what we see in the manga. I'm suspecting this because Claus's field haven't started to grow yet.

Tatiana isn't really far away, she's already Vice-Captain. The true mystery is the Silvius showing up, but the comment was 2 years after the end of the first series.

It's quite possible the last scene on Earth happen after what we see in the manga. I'm suspecting this because Claus's field haven't started to grow yet.

Ah, I thought her rank was lower. My mistake.

So perhaps the last scene on Earth in the original takes place after some of the events in Sunadokei no Tabibito. It's also possible they just relocated to some place where wheat was actually growing. There seemed to be a large wood growing right next to the house in the manga if I remember correctly but it's not there in the end scene of Last Exile

I get the feeling that the last scene with the wheat in the original LE might be retconned since it sounds like they're having trouble growing wheat wherever the Anatorary-Disith Exile set down.
I agree that the Horizon Caves race in the original LE was better but there was a lot more going on there, I was just amused that Fam & Gissey didn't need a tow back like Lavie & Claus did when they pulled that same trick. And I think we got a brief look at the people from two of the other Prestars, the emissaries who were negotiating to have the Ades NOT drop an exile on them, look like they must be from the Prestars from Africa and the Middle East (the A-D Prestar was Europe and Russia I think).