tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post5261770714940850858..comments2015-03-02T08:17:01.961-06:00Comments on AngryBlackBitch: Some shit I learned from NPR…Pamela Merritthttps://plus.google.com/114081928830034520671noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-68389169597757563332011-02-03T09:32:32.074-06:002011-02-03T09:32:32.074-06:00Dears;
You all have it dead wrong...Economics is ...Dears;<br /><br />You all have it dead wrong...Economics is a SCIENCE, not a hobby. Economists are not sports announcers. Remember that it is popularly said of economics that it is &#39;the dismal science&#39;.<br /><br />They disagree for the same reason that physicists stridently disagree over the origin of the three dimensional universe and over whether this universe is entropic (expanding forever, independent of human life or perception) or &#39;cosmologically constant&#39; (closed, in a &#39;steady state&#39; that will not expand forever). Scientists disagree because the physical world and the laws that govern physical reality are subject, thank the gods, to a constant need to interpret phenomena.<br /><br />Having said all that, it is instructive to remember that the very popular saying that, &quot;economics is the dismal science&quot; was coined by Thomas Carlyle in his 1849 essay, &quot;Occasional Discourse on the Negro Question.&quot; Carlyle objected to the &#39;dismal&#39; nature of the &#39;dismal&#39; supply and demand principle of macro economics as expressed earlier (in 1839) by Thomas Malthus in his own famous essay, &quot;Chartism&#39;. Malthus of course, argued that world population would soon outstrip the capacity of global food sources to feed the population (you will probably recognize this bit of pish-posh from your high school econ classes--the so called &#39;Malthusian principle&#39; of overpopulation).<br /><br />Carlyle was appalled by this prediction (Oh, the humanity!), though on close inspection more appalled by the prospect of Africans and Asians making up the bulk of the population &#39;explosion&#39; than by the prospect of whether or not and how that population would manage to eat. Consequently, Carlyle advocated a return to chattel slavery for the sake of regulating labor markets in areas of high raw materials production such as the West Indies. The further implication in his thought, was that an adequately GOVERNED world population (Africans, Asians, Indians, Native Americans, ) would prevent runaway population growth at the same time that runaway labor costs would be avoided for the &#39;producer&#39; (the capitalist--nee European owner class). <br /><br />Carlyle argued, therefore, that slavery is a morally superior form of social organization, superior to the blind, ungoverned economic principles of dirty, stinky &#39;market forces&#39; (you know--the forces that lead inevitably to class conflict, to collective bargaining, union solidarity).<br /><br />In short, youse is all barkin&#39; up duh wrong trees. A &#39;code of ethics&#39; does not necessarily accrue to a science, at least not in the objective practice of scientific analysis, which, if it is actually being done objectively, according to the natural principles of a science, will even out necessary error over time (physics, biology, cosmology, anatomy, geology, histology, plate tectonics, etc.).<br /><br />Now, because economics entails some of the social sciences (history and psychology, for e.g.) it is a more practicably problematic science than say, surgical tech, but in that case the question of &#39;ethics&#39; adheres not so much to the practitioner of the science, as to the society within which the scientists is practicing. In fact, it is easy to see that it makes very little sense to even be talking about a &#39;code of ethics&#39; for the mere practice of fundamental analysis within a scientific tradition. Such a thing sounds dumb on the face of it. Cotton Mather, doofuss Puritanism, and American Transcendentalism as practiced by Emerson as opposed to Thoreau come to mind. Puritanism is the mark of seeking to get a scientist to adhere to a &#39;code of ethics&#39; while allowing our public school administrations to go on stealing our children blind and defending the system because we think &#39;private incentive creates efficiency&#39;.<br /><br />The issue of white supremacy was hotly contested as a value AGAINST economics, since reactionary, fascist, and racist/sexist forces ALWAYS practice anti-intellectualism and are ALWAYS anti science.Rayfield A. Wallerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14989487286922078011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-34907549311242751322011-01-24T21:42:13.849-06:002011-01-24T21:42:13.849-06:00&quot;But some prominent economists like David Col...&quot;But some prominent economists like David Colander of Middlebury College bristle at this notion of a formal code...<br />&#39;Economists do all kinds of different things, and to have a code that&#39;s going to capture what they do is quite hard,&#39; he says.&quot;<br /><br><br />This guy doesn&#39;t even seem to understand what a code of ethics is. It&#39;s not <i>what</i> you do, it&#39;s <i>how</i> you do it. My profession has a huge variety in the types of work we can do, but we have a clear code of ethics all the same.ElizaNnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-61836801918833038402011-01-24T17:40:22.118-06:002011-01-24T17:40:22.118-06:00I, too am an NPR addict who views economists and m...I, too am an NPR addict who views economists and most other elusive (unaccounted for) peeps in the upper-aristocratousphere whom seem to delight in keeping the pockets of the rich nice &#39;n fat but the pockets of the poor nearly empty ...vyzion360http://www.blogger.com/profile/16968489120989688095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-30293592047079847082011-01-24T14:29:53.588-06:002011-01-24T14:29:53.588-06:00I knew it! They are all slim shady and your instin...I knew it! They are all slim shady and your instincts are right they don&#39;t know what they are doing or talking about and yes, they do make stuff up and then use math to prove it. I remember taking econ. in college and thinking this is all just theory being spouted as fact. This is the way so much of this stuff goes. They know who butters their bread. Believe it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-43164221099825587682011-01-24T14:20:00.353-06:002011-01-24T14:20:00.353-06:00I am not surprised either, it actually explains it...I am not surprised either, it actually explains it all. I never invested any creedence in &#39;economists&#39; because so many would sound like empty shirts on &#39;money&#39; shows. They mostly seemed like people who run sales seminars. A few now and then strike me as people who want a merit based, ethical system and they are trying to use &#39;economics&#39; to do so, like Ravi Batra. Great post.Espiritu Aretehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01582097620864417659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-30601448951034871722011-01-24T10:33:07.549-06:002011-01-24T10:33:07.549-06:00Good Gawd! Thanks for the assistance, Anonymous -...Good Gawd! Thanks for the assistance, Anonymous - I clearly need to finish my first cup of coffee before I log on!!Shark-fuhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03323962708956637012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-77759245729248819422011-01-24T09:34:00.798-06:002011-01-24T09:34:00.798-06:00And that&#39;s what I also think of...And that&#39;s what I also think of...escalante bloggerhttp://www.escalantebloggers.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10755833.post-76238509995275773102011-01-24T08:57:27.011-06:002011-01-24T08:57:27.011-06:00Feel free to delete this comment: When reading, I ...Feel free to delete this comment: When reading, I stumbled over the word &quot;incite&quot;, and then it dawned on me you probably meant to write &quot;insight&quot;. Could be wrong, though, not being a native English speaker.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com