now graced by visits from the dept of homeland security, Gandhidham, Darwin Australia,Chattisgarh , Encyclopedia Britannica, the US Department of State,US Department of Defense, USAISC(The US millitary communications war command HQ) the The New York times, New York State Attorney general;s office, Apple (to look at my tech Gadget essentials), US house of representatives, The department of Homeland security and The Canadian ministry of education. and The office of the commissioner for baseball.

I’d rather see more genuine emotion, not less. I’m not in favor of violence, or outright disruptions of the proceedings, but a “you lie” now and then is better than a bunch of wooden yes-men. I know, either-or

2 hours ago ·

Ramesh Ram

Id rather that the supreme court be filled with ultra leftwingers who legislate to stick it to the man, than is filled with corporate stooges that stick it to the people.

2 hours ago ·

B R

I’d rather have my corruption be visible, than hidden behind populist rhetoric. Did you not see the 20th century? The pols and judges who supposedly are “sticking it to the man”, always turn out to be the most corrupt. It’s like those anti-gay pols who always turn out to be on the down low.

2 hours ago ·

Ramesh Ram

artificial opposites.

it is possible to have someone that is truly populist and a little less than corrupt. just as it is possible that someone is a brazen shill and completely corrupt(psst: dick chaney)…

2 hours ago ·

B R

granted, but my own prejudice is that it’s better to trust a man who owns up to acting in his own self interest, than it is to trust a man who claims to be doing something for me out of the goodness of his heart.

2 hours ago ·

Ramesh Ram

id rather trust gandhi than jp morgan.

about an hour ago ·

B R

talk about your false choices. We’re talking regular schmucks here dude, not gods. We can’t have a government by gods unless we go for the monarchy or a dictatorship.

about an hour ago ·

Ramesh Ram

why do you hate americans?

about an hour ago ·

B R

Have you seen what people do to other vertebrates and to each other? People are without a doubt the most vile of all God’s creatures. The only way they govern themselves is within a system that rewards them financially for participating. Pretending that people will govern by something other than their own selfish interests results in very, very bad things happening.

about an hour ago ·

Sue Jean Halvorsen

so is there any reason to fight back? to care?

about an hour ago ·

Ramesh Ram

the ONLY way? are you saying youre now going to start preaching a capitalist stock market culture to the animals in the jungle and the creatures in the sea?

are you then going to tibet and teach it to dalai lama’s peaceful hoardes who are now being enslaved as factory labor to build you shoes?

the ONLY way he says. That’s rich…. See More

I say lets go to the top 2% of the world’s population, take away all their non productive assets and give it to the bottom 45% of the population. world hunger, thirst, poverty health all problems solved by one single legislative stroke.

about an hour ago ·

B R

I let the love flow in my own life, and it comes back, and swirls and has profound effect. I’m very trusting and generous to strangers. I just make a distinction between what works in my own life, and what will work within government. Government always ends up with the lowest common denominator.

about an hour ago ·

Sue Jean Halvorsen

so there is no hope? just contemplate your own navel?

about an hour ago ·

Ramesh Ram

if you look for hope in a cynical argument, sue jean, your bound to be given the runaround. Theyre using the reducio ad absurdum to “prove” there is no alternative.

about an hour ago ·

B R

the only way that people govern is through their own self interests. I didn’t mention the animals or the creatures.

If you don’t think the Dalai Lama is one selfish dude, then you don’t know the Dalai Lama. The guy thinks the whole fucking world revolves around him, and he’s ready to sell out his people as long as American celebrities kiss his ass. He’s Jesus in a hand cart.

about an hour ago ·

Ramesh Ram

they said that about gandhi when he was alive to. the politics of vilification is its own logic. people should learn to develop a backbome and see things at their own merits instead of doing the logical equivalent of staring at (say) gandhi’s asshole and claiming that they can only see shit coming out of the man.

about an hour ago ·

B R

Wow. Your desire for unimpeachable heroes leaves me speechless.

about an hour ago ·

Ramesh Ram

I dont desire unimpeachable heroes. I can just see through your selfserving cynicism grown all over your thought like cancer.

about an hour ago ·

B R

How is it self-serving for me to doubt that human governance is possible without rewarding the participants?

about an hour ago ·

Ramesh Ram

its taking that argument to excess that fails you.

To use economics, your argument does not take into account the law of diminishing marginal utility. so when people fail to be equally satisfied by that additional bit of wealth, they go back to their “faith” (capitalism) and try to acquire much MORE wealth to satisfy the same amount of utility. … See Morethis , carried to rideculous lengths , makes for one person having 50 billion (quite idle) dollars when about three billion others have to make do with about 25 billion dollars among them.(and little food water or medicine).

about an hour ago ·

B R

@Susan: how you live your personal life has nothing to do with how you can expect government to operate. Individual lives are filled with miracles and events that are entirely impossible to predict. When you start dealing with lots of people and lots of events, then statistics start to apply and there’s no escaping the dreaded mean.

about an hour ago ·

Ramesh Ram

“how you live your personal life has nothing to do with how you can expect government to operate.”

Wrong.

about an hour ago ·

B R

Cool. We’re getting down to basics here.

about an hour ago ·

Ramesh Ram

we have always been there. welcome back from whichever planet you have been visiting in the last 60 years.

about an hour ago ·

B R

your mother.

about an hour ago ·

Ramesh Ram

hahaha! I love it when conservatives lose an argument on their own terms!

about an hour ago ·

B R

you want me to argue that I’ve not been on another planet? I didn’t think you were saying anything other than an insult, so I followed suit.

about an hour ago ·

Ramesh Ram

more rhetoric. you were on planet “lets reduce marxism to an absurdity”. and when you temporarily let go of the basic facts on the ground (such as diminishing marginal utility) , the trip …sort of …ends….

happily for you…or sadly…

about an hour ago ·

B R

I’m totally on planet “marxism is an absurdity”. Not only does it ignore human nature in theory, in practice it’s caused more pain and suffering than Christianity, and that’s really saying something.

59 minutes ago ·

Ramesh Ram

but life isnt about marxism. thats totally your meth trip. most of the 8 billion people of the world dont really care….

57 minutes ago ·

Ramesh Ram

the world is more than circuses lions and christians.

many of us dont belong to these cults..

57 minutes ago ·

Ramesh Ram

Its not as if we all or either lions or christians. many of us live on the beach and wear thongs.