*Well, you are a feisty Srpkinja!! Thanks for what you did - putting the truth out before the general public. The secret banning of the Orthodox (about 11 of us now) is not exactly a great credit to the openness and honesty of the Admin over at CAF.

I see that the threads lasted for about 1 hour. Did you notice how many people read them?

*Well, you are a feisty Srpkinja!! Thanks for what you did - putting the truth out before the general public. The secret banning of the Orthodox (about 11 of us now) is not exactly a great credit to the openness and honesty of the Admin over at CAF.

I see that the threads lasted for about 1 hour. Did you notice how many people read them?

Bless, Father.There were about 50 views for all three threads total.

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And when He knew for certain Only drowning men could see Him He said "All men will be sailors then Until the sea shall free them"

However I feel I have to point out that I'm not happy at the situation there

I had started a new thread on mysterious happenings and guess what ??

POOF

Vanished.

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"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."- St. John Maximovitch

I saw the initial thread, but now do not have access to it. I also tried your link to the reaction thread. It has also been shut down. I have to say that I am often naive, but I am surprised, especially since I recall one of the moderators of the E. Christianity forum praising the level of knowledge displayed on it. These further actions surprise me even more. Have they given no one a reasonable response?

"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."- St. John Maximovitch

"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."- St. John Maximovitch

Wouldn't it be good if someone had some screenshots of the threads before they were taken down?

*If you set your computer to "Work Off Line" and then look in the cached webpages, you will probably find that your computer has saved them and they can be saved as screen shots. (I can't do that last bit, my puter is too old!)

BUT if you look in your cached pages WITHOUT going to "Work Off Line" you will loose the cached material since it will try to load the current, and non-existent, page.

"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."- St. John Maximovitch

Do not go gentle into that good night, Old age should burn and rave at close of day; Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right, Because their words had forked no lightning they Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight, And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way, Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height, Curse, bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray. Do not go gentle into that good night. Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Dylan Thomas

Can you get Rodney Dangerfield to read it for us?

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"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."" Isaac Asimov

a.) i'm on CAF oftenb.) no, i am not much of a debater.. if CAF is a banquet of discussion and debate.. i'm the one in the corner, at the desert table eating the scones and discussing what a crooner Dean Martin was, drinking the congac, while the others fight.c.) my reason for joining here, albeit temporarily...just letting Fr. Ambrose and the others know that i think that banning you and then not having the decency to put it into your profile was just a dumb move on CA's part. while they are a private board and capable of anything, to ban a member who has contributed so much (or in this case, multiple members here) and then run and hide is a rotten, shameful move on their part. I most likely have seen my time there end for this reason.

I wonder at how many moderator resources they are having to expend now

One quote I expected earlier in this thread that applies really well to the CAF mods...

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

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"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."" Isaac Asimov

"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."- St. John Maximovitch

a.) i'm on CAF oftenb.) no, i am not much of a debater.. if CAF is a banquet of discussion and debate.. i'm the one in the corner, at the desert table eating the scones and discussing what a crooner Dean Martin was, drinking the congac, while the others fight.c.) my reason for joining here, albeit temporarily...just letting Fr. Ambrose and the others know that i think that banning you and then not having the decency to put it into your profile was just a dumb move on CA's part. while they are a private board and capable of anything, to ban a member who has contributed so much (or in this case, multiple members here) and then run and hide is a rotten, shameful move on their part. I most likely have seen my time there end for this reason.

back to the woodwork. Peace all.

*Many thanks for your kind words. It's been quite an exciting hour with the posts on CAF from paradoxy and wannabee. I don't know if Catherine Grant realises that quite a few people on several fora are now awaiting with interest her promised message on the policy of banning CAF members secretly.

I guess that what is being challenged is CAF's culture of secrecy and its lack of moderatorial accountability to its members. I appreciate that it is a private Forum but many members (including me) have responded to its many calls for financial contributions.

a.) i'm on CAF oftenb.) no, i am not much of a debater.. if CAF is a banquet of discussion and debate.. i'm the one in the corner, at the desert table eating the scones and discussing what a crooner Dean Martin was, drinking the congac, while the others fight.c.) my reason for joining here, albeit temporarily...just letting Fr. Ambrose and the others know that i think that banning you and then not having the decency to put it into your profile was just a dumb move on CA's part. while they are a private board and capable of anything, to ban a member who has contributed so much (or in this case, multiple members here) and then run and hide is a rotten, shameful move on their part. I most likely have seen my time there end for this reason.

back to the woodwork. Peace all.

Very noble.Thank you "thechrismyster". I take my hat off to you.

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If you're living a happy life as a Christian, you're doing something wrong.

Perhaps you should strive for consistency and refrain from asking such questions...

On the Byzantine forum, in relation to this matter, you said:

Source: Link Disabled.

Agreed - but I had just got so irritated that I really felt I had to say something

And when they started removing my threads on CAF - well that was the last straw

Let's face it - none of us are perfect

[edit] I've gone back and looked at my posts . I have not criticised the bannings on any grounds other than the way they were made - the fact they were not obvious to any members of CAF . I don't know of any members of CAF in the past who have not been 'labelled ' on their posts which stand , as Banned . I have not criticised the reasons for which these posters were banned.

I can understand bannings which are made within a short timespan of a post - but some of these bannings were made a ridiculous length of time from the poster's previous post .

I have bemoaned the loss of many valuable threads and items of information [/edit]

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"Never let anyone try to tell you that, in order to be Orthodox, you must also be eastern. The West was fully Orthodox for a thousand years; and her venerable liturgy is far older than any of her heresies."- St. John Maximovitch

Oh my! I go to bed and you all form a resistance. Great going paradoxy! Your posts were QUITE valuable to me on CAF, don't discount yourself. I hope to see many more here.

Y'all keep watching Star Wars and dreaming big... and the Empire will fall!

Seriously, folks, I'm glad you're trying to force them to be honest with their members.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights, among them life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness..."

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"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."" Isaac Asimov

Sorry to have missed the action. I was asleep when all this transpired. I admire your action, paradoxy. I'll miss seeing you on CAF, but the truth did need to get out. Pray for me and any other Orthodox who are still trying to defend the Faith in the ever-increasing hostile environment of CAF.

I just used their "Contact Us" feature and sent the following: Glory to Jesus Christ!

Dear Forum Admin folks,

As part of the clearing out of "offending" Orthodox Christians from CAF, my account was permanently locked, with, apparently, no opportunity for appeal. That is fine--it's your web site and you may obviously do with it what you please. I understand, however, that you are still showing me and others whose accounts have also been locked as active posters, showing us as junior, regular, senior members or whatever. Is this not just a little bit disingenuous and intellectually dishonest? If we have been, in effect banned, why not show us as such? You could at least indicate that our accounts have been permanently locked and that we are completely unable to participate on your forum except to read posts as "guests". Would that be problematic? By showing us as active posters you are completely misleading all your other posters. Does that not concern you? Even a little bit?

I very much look forward to hearing from you with your response.

Happy Thanksgiving!

In Christ,Jeff ("Ziggernaut")

It'll be interesting to see what, if anything, they say in reply. I'll let you know.

God Bless, and a Happy and Blessed Thanksgiving to all!Jeff

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"Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it, and right is right even if nobody is doing it." Augustine of Hippo

Sorry to have missed the action. I was asleep when all this transpired. I admire your action, paradoxy. I'll miss seeing you on CAF, but the truth did need to get out. Pray for me and any other Orthodox who are still trying to defend the Faith in the ever-increasing hostile environment of CAF.

God bless,

Adam

You're ForeverAdam? Just keep it up there at CAF! You're doing a great job! I'll pray for you!

Danica

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And when He knew for certain Only drowning men could see Him He said "All men will be sailors then Until the sea shall free them"

We'll see if anyone from CAF is monitoring this - I haven't posted on CAF in ages. If I get banned, it will be because they're monitoring this forum.

Maybe if they didn't spend time monitoring this thread, they'd have enough "resources" to keep up with the Orthodox members!

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"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."" Isaac Asimov

Hello,Yes, quite a bit. In fact, I'm logged on to both here and there at the same time. But I don't really do any Catholic/Orthodox threads. They're too hard to find, and given where they are located, they are probably infested with Protestants and Muslims, among others.

I am doing quite a bit of posting in regards to Sacred Music right now.

I am banned but I can still read it through a back door but I cant post.Some of the old RC debaters are reposting old questions knowing they wont get the fight they used to get. Pretty much they are just answering the questions themselves and dancing on our grave.

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Your idea has been debunked 1000 times already.. Maybe 1001 will be the charm