Not entering: Last time around you were inconsistent with a rule that you disqualified my videos for. Your email about it was rude. You clarified the rule only to have already disregarded it again this time around.

moonbunnychan wrote:Making your own bumpers IS kind of a pain. Definitely will submit if I don't have to do that.

Well, if your video has credits at the end then you're already good to go. When I submit something to Ikkicon/San Japan, I just include the credits. The contest rule's unusual, but not really a big deal.

The main reason why I had people add bumpers was to kind of make sure the amv wasn't stolen in any way. Even though it's a rare thing to happen I think for SJ next year I will make recommended but not a requirement. There are other reasons to this as well too. Plus, I don't like telling people that their video is disqualified for such a rule.

Leaving TV logo, codec, or other various watermarks, including subtitles is one rule I will greatly enforce. Unless of course the watermark is for your AMV studio or if the subtitles are needed to translate a characters voice.

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AnimeFunTV wrote:enlighten me on which specific rule you are referring to.

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"2. All AMV entries submitted must be made by you, and you alone. No group-projects/multi- editor are allowed. Critique from friends or family are considered ‘ok’ but they must not have altered the AMV themselves."

This has changed from the last rules to not just meet your needs, but others as well. Essentially, you can have friends and family give you hints and suggestions, but as long as you are the sole editor of the AMV, it is considered okay for a submissions.

The AMV rules will always be evolving from each contest to help people make good submissions, not to hurt submissions.

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Warlike Swans wrote:I am uncertain how you still fail to see your inconsistency in regards to the rule, and I obviously can't spell it out without dragging other people into this.

I think we can let the cat out of the bag here and point out that "Evangelion 0.22 - Shinji does (not) Mean Business" was made by both snapxynith and myself and it was accepted at San Japan (I think we missed that rule when glancing over them before submitting, lol...opsy?) and they apparently they didn't notice (despite it also being in the bumper screen...).

As for the rule itself, I can see how a huge MEP might be a problem, but I don't see why it should be a problem to have a 2-3 editor project accepted...

In most cases Multi-Editor projects normally turn out very well made and breaking well in the top 5 amv's in both Editors and People's choice winners from what I've seen. Thats why, at this point in time, I try and keep it single editor. Granted that we will eventually add multi-editor projects when we have the time in the schedule to do so. There is always time to change the rules & guidelines before releasing it to the public and opening for contest submissions. Ikkicons R&G will stay the same until next year, I don't like drastically changing things in the middle of open submissions. San Japan's R&G can be more tailored to meet what people would like before I release the R&G. If ya'll want Multi-editor submissions for SJ, I will gladly talk with the con-chair and see if we can make the necessary adjustments to the schedule to make room for them.

Keep in mind, the more categories I add, the less video's of each category I can air.

Example: If we have 3 hours (180 minutes) of programming in the schedule. 10 videos per-category at 5 mins (average) each = 50 minutes of videos times 4 categories = 200 minutes. Of course most AMV's will be less time but currently thats how we can calculate the maximum time allowed for each AMV. If I add more category's that would mean i would have to either A. Add more time to the programming schedule, B. Reduce the amount of videos shown in each category (From Top 12/10 to maybe Top 5) or C. (Add your own feedback)

I'm always open to discussion about the rules, and yeah I might be a little strict or kind of hard on people when enforcing them. But changes can always be made before the next contest. Please people, its you guys who make the show entertaining and fun for attendees, and quite honestly we respectfully give great prizes and awards (At San Japan's AMV contest) to the winners than other cons would.

In l33tmeatwad's case, what is done is done. I will not be mean and DQ him and Snapxynith, but it's an example of why in this case I would like keep it Single-editor Projects because I sent Snapxynith the trophy and not to l33tmeatwad. For multi-editors I would love to send each person a trophy for their hard work.

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AnimeFunTV wrote:In most cases Multi-Editor projects normally turn out very well made and breaking well in the top 5 amv's in both Editors and People's choice winners from what I've seen. Thats why, at this point in time, I try and keep it single editor. Granted that we will eventually add multi-editor projects when we have the time in the schedule to do so.

...If you say so.... But if you're not allowing MEPs because you think they have an unfair advantage then why don't you have an anti-trolling policy?

AnimeFunTV wrote:n l33tmeatwad's case, what is done is done. I will not be mean and DQ him and Snapxynith

... Obviously you can't DQ them now in any meaningful way. I said I didn't want you to reject videos you had already accepted because you have very obviously made an exception to the rule again this contest, and I don't want those editors penalized because I choose to call you out.

My problem isn't inherently with the rule but with your inconsistency in applying it.

After talking with Proz this weekend, we've decided that we may begin allowing MEP's starting with San Japan 5. The final details of it will be ironed out by the turn of the year.

Talking about inconsistency, it normally happens with ikkicon. I have much less control with ikkicon and changing things takes days, if not weeks in Ikkicon's part. So any changes I have to announce things either in the beginning or mid-day through the contest. Its also somewhat frustrating that I gave them the information about a month after SJ4, and they didn't post the AMV submission form & rules till about a month ago.

In Warlikes case, during SJ's AMV contest I was very consistent with the rules in which she submitted a video because that video was not just the only one that had to inform them about the rules & guidelines. She respectfully withdrew her entries after I asked her if she had any editing help with her video's. So in Ikkicon's contest I decided to clarify a bit more in rule 2 were its okay to have critique from friends & family, just as long as you are the sole editor; and in rule 4 were you have to have bumper credits either before, or after the AMV to the Musical Artist, Song, Anime, & Yourself shown in the AMV, is now only recommended to see if that helps with submission entries.

Changing the rules & guidelines from con to con isn't bad, it actually says we are listening to you all and making the proper adjustments to help you all. If something isn't working, you change it to make it work for the better.

I do agree that my emails may have been blunt, it was not intended to be rude. My apologies to Warlike if they may come off that way. I maybe should have used Italics than using all caps to emphasize something that was very minor.

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