Yeah he's had some past indiscretions, beating on women isn't right. However, this here is a good thing. Let him have his moment without dumping all over him.

We don't even know if that really ever happened. We don't know the details of the situation. When my ex-wife and i went through a divorce and custody battle, she said she was gonna have her new boy friend and his homeboys kick my ass when I went to pick up my kids for visitation. I asked the cops to go with me, and they did. She threatened them, and almost arrested her at the time. We had court that monday, and she went there with bruises all along her back and said I beat her up when i came to pick the kids up. The douche attorney for Santa Clara County treated me like a piece of shiat on her word. When I gave him the police badge numbers of the cops who watched the whole thing, he still treated me like a douche. When they told him what happened he shut his pie hole, but never apologized. My ex was a meth addict, and I got custody of my kids. It's easy to make accusations against someone, and cops will always be on the safe side, and go with the woman. Women are also good liars though. It's very douchebag for smokinggun.com to go after this guy after what he did, and try to tear him down. Doesn't look like they gave him a chance to defend himself, and he shouldn't have too. Do a good deed, and have douchebags try to tear you down.

Epiphany:muck4doo: What I know is who I heard calling the police. It wasn't anyone else than Ramsey and Berry I heard on the phone calls

The guy doesn't speak english (the first one who was there), and Amanda Berry used the phone that was at the house that 1st guy was visiting. From what was reported, it sounded like he was poor and ate a lot of his meals at the house across the street from the crime scene, so he probably didnt have a cell phone.

You can always add another hero. This isn't "Highlander" where there can only be one. Ramsey is a hero. Berry is a hero. If there is another, let it be told. I'm disgusted that smokinggun.com is trying to tear this guy down, and is a site supported by Fark. Someone needs to investigate the people of smokinggun.com and find out if they are really the virgins and saints they claim to be. People make mistakes. I find it disgusting when someone does something good, these douchebags immediately try to find something bad in their past to take away any praise for that. Like Smokinggun.com are the shining angels overlooking and judging us all, and are the ultimate judges on human kind.

Epiphany:muck4doo: Epiphany: Charles Ramsay wasn't the one who rescued those girls, he came up as someone else was rescuing them, and then he called 911 when the girl had already called 911.

He also is a serial domestic abuser.

So yeah, the only way this guy is a hero is that he was an immediately recognizable meme as soon as anyone saw his interview.

Do you have any proof that is what happened? Maybe there is audio of the "real" persons who made the 9/11 calls?

Yeah, Amanda Berry on the phone with 911, the audio of that is available on any news site. Listen to Charles Ramsay's 911 call too, where he says she is on the phone with 911 too.

Also, Charles Ramsay himself said he saw someone run over there to the house which is what led him to go see what was going on. He also says he kicked the door to get her out, which the real guy who was there first says is bullshiat.

Check thesmokinggun for his MULTIPLE domestic violence arrests over many years. I know that one doesn't sit right with you, but your situation is slightly different than someone refusing to pay child support and being arrested multiple times for it over the years.

You know I have much respect for you, so lets start there. I have seen nothing to say Ramsey wasn't the one to kick down the door. He said in the interview there was the neighbor across the street was involved. He's proclaiming he's not a hero. He doesn't want reward money, but he was there to help. He did. And now different media like smokinggun.com are now here to crucify him. Do you not see anything wrong with this? Help someone. Get proclaimed a hero. And now Smokinggun.com is here to expose all your former demons to the public. It's disgusting.

I felt so terrible the first time I saw a picture of that man, and that image popped into my head.

Pfft. Don't feel terrible. Heineken guy's a hero in his own right. I mean, what was safer to drink in a major flood situation like that? Water or beer? He knew how to stay safely hydrated, and no doubt passed on the valuable knowledge.

Anybody that wants to shiat on this guy that admittedly did something bad over ten years ago, plead guilty, did his time and has been in no trouble since is a bigger problem to our society than Mr Ramsey ever was.

Omahawg:unlikely: Note: The previous was a cynical prediction, not a personal wish.

they already have

Sigh. Of course. Of course they are.

But all that stuff happened about ten years ago or more.Maybe some enterprising young journalist can spin it into a redemption story. You know, villain-turned-hero. Because he sure as heck is a hero now, sketchy past or not.

Bigdogdaddy:This guy did a great thing. However, from what I read in a different story, he never paid child support. If that's the case and he had a judgement against him, his wife could lay claim to the reward money. It might get interesting. It still doesn't take away from what he did. Good on him.

If he turned it down to spite his ex's and children, then not good on him. If he is given a chance to repair the damage he has caused his own family and refuses it out of spite, how could that be good? Now if the money would just be for himself, then fine good on him for giving it over to those girls. I am sure many other people will be taking care of these girls for the next couple years. Life will get tough for them again in a few years when no one remembers their story and they have to join the rest of us in normal life, which right now they are not prepared for.

chuggernaught:chuggernaught: Epiphany: muck4doo: What I know is who I heard calling the police. It wasn't anyone else than Ramsey and Berry I heard on the phone calls

The guy doesn't speak english (the first one who was there), and Amanda Berry used the phone that was at the house that 1st guy was visiting. From what was reported, it sounded like he was poor and ate a lot of his meals at the house across the street from the crime scene, so he probably didnt have a cell phone.

Cordedo also stated he helped Ramsey break down the door. So we should trust new guy just because he is new? Seriously, let's let the news media get their facts straight, this story is developing and has a lot of public interest. There will be more info coming out.

Sorry, got his name wrong, it's Mr. Cordero. Seriously though, these two sentences from the article. Did he just lie, was it poor writing, or poor translation from Spanish? This don't make no sense.

"But the truth who arrived there, who crossed the street, who came and broke the door, it was me."

Cordero said he and other neighbors helped Ramsey break down the door of the Seymore Ave. home.

Epiphany:muck4doo: What I know is who I heard calling the police. It wasn't anyone else than Ramsey and Berry I heard on the phone calls

The guy doesn't speak english (the first one who was there), and Amanda Berry used the phone that was at the house that 1st guy was visiting. From what was reported, it sounded like he was poor and ate a lot of his meals at the house across the street from the crime scene, so he probably didnt have a cell phone.

Cordedo also stated he helped Ramsey break down the door. So we should trust new guy just because he is new? Seriously, let's let the news media get their facts straight, this story is developing and has a lot of public interest. There will be more info coming out.

Funny how diluted the word hero has become. This is cool and all, but I wouldn't go so far as to call him a "hero." I reserve that honorable label for guys who made millions playing a kids game and who are also into the penis.

robohobo:There's an article up on Yahoo right now about how everyone's a racist for being amused by Ramsey's interview vids.

Good Lord, the need to manufacture news out of and dissect everything.From the link: "Amid the hood backdrop - the gnarled teeth, the dirty white tee, the slang, the shout-out to McDonald's - we miss the fact that Charles Ramsey is perfectly lucid and intelligent."

To the self-important writer: Speak for yourself. Why the "we"? Who told you I missed that? Because I didn't. What might be more important is that you just assumed that I did, in your never-ending quest to see racism everywhere around you and to make sure that it shows up where it was not before.

I taught inner-city kids and many (not all) of them knew exactly how to speak and write correct, standard English, and usually did with me and often with each other. Many times when they used ebonics, it was strategic and intended to be funny, and they knew how funny it was. One of our smartest eighth-graders would routinely and hilariously tattle on a good friend to me within his earshot and one of these times, her eyes wide with fake outrage, she pointed at him and shouted, "Him CURSE!" It had everybody in stitches. Much of Ramsey's storytelling is clearly intended to be humorous and light. But I guess nobody's laughing with him, because racism and we simply all must be laughing at him. The fact that 1) he was funny, and 2) we laughed just CAN'T cover it all. There must be something deeper, and it must strike at the very heart of American society and produce many page-views.

I could definitely see this having a positive effect on his own life. He seems to know right from wrong, whether or not he has always acted like it; being called a hero and treated like one may just be the push he needs to reform other areas of his life.

Well if he didn't want his dirty laundry aired for all he shouldn't have done something nice for someone else. That is why if someone asks me for help I tell them to go fark themselves. Saves me a lot of headache.

The guy is a hero. It didn't surprise me that the shiatbags out there would be digging hard out there for turds in the guys life. It doesn't change what he did on Monday. I suspect the shiatbags dig for turds, because they have never done anything even close to what Ramsey did. Their whole claim to fame is trying to tear people down. Fark off smokinggun.com.

/I don't care how much you are friends with Drew.//If he wants to tear this man down he is a shiatbag too

Anyone else see some of the "if you like Charles Ramsey, you're racist" super liberal bullshiat that's started?

Some hyper pc leftist posted some shiat on my FB feed about how anyone who posts the Ramsy interview video is perpetuating black stereotypes and making fun of black culture and is a racist.

Crazy shiat.

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The guy is awesome. I completely agree with your assessment.

Unless his interview was scripted (in which case fire up the tin-foil-hat schizophrenia machine), it wasn't racist. Liking it is not racist. Seriously, what in the world would make someone think that? It was one heroic dude giving an interview in his own, enthusiastic style. References to BBQ and McDonalds were made. Whatever.

In any case, I'm a liberal. And I question the liberality of whoever posted on your feed, because what you describe doesn't sound progressive. It sounds... well, hypersensitive yet stupid.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:Some hyper pc leftist posted some shiat on my FB feed about how anyone who posts the Ramsy interview video is perpetuating black stereotypes and making fun of black culture and is a racist.

Gyrfalcon:Ten years ago. I'd say he's paid his dues and then some today.

I agree- he ran to help a woman in a situation that a decade ago he might have been the one perpetrating. not only do I have no problem with him keeping the hero tag, but the fact he could change from a perpetrator to someone willing to step in and stop it almost speaks more for him.

I applaud the guy for being real and knowing who really needs to be taken care of. He'll get some sort of reward for his role in the rescue and he deserves it. But those three girls and the child need the help more right now.