I regularly make a complete prawn of myself.
More java independence is coming with LibreOffice. I only needed it for 'Presentation' on the audio side. If just using the WP no need and if doing general purpose presentations again, no need.

I hardly ever install Java in Puppy but in the future this may change.
I am beginning to believe we will have to be Android compatible in the future . . .

There are far more serious attacks coming from javascript (a different language) and rogue web sites. Do you visit pron sites, pirate bay or really dodgy destinations? . . . not even sure what those are . . . maybe 'bank hacking' for non legal criminality? Don't know.

Googlesharing is worth a try on FireFox if you want to do a google search without being tracked, (although probably just a matter of time before Google puts a stop to that too ). Use SSL google ... https://encrypted.google.com/ with Googlesharing then the proxy doesn't know what you are Googling for either.

[quote="ICPUG]Base might be used by quite a few people, certainly people here in the past have asked for a Database.[/quote]
True, but I would be very surprised if the number of people using it would be anywhere near the number of people using spreadsheets. Although personally I think a lot more people should use databases. I'm an engineer, and we use spreadsheets all the time. But in most cases they are really the wrong tool for the job - we should be using either a database or a proper programming language/tool._________________If you have or know of a good gtkdialog application, please post a link here

[quote="ICPUG]Base might be used by quite a few people, certainly people here in the past have asked for a Database.

True, but I would be very surprised if the number of people using it would be anywhere near the number of people using spreadsheets. Although personally I think a lot more people should use databases. I'm an engineer, and we use spreadsheets all the time. But in most cases they are really the wrong tool for the job - we should be using either a database or a proper programming language/tool.[/quote]

Yes - I agree totally. I work with engineers too and spreadsheets are everywhere. Rarely are they used for their original purpose - number crunching on a scratchpad. Mostly spreadsheets are used for simple databases - perhaps a real database is too complicated for an engineer's needs.

I use spreadsheets heavily. Mostly for manipulating data that I need to generate control scripts. I also use them for numerical analysis. As to information that I use day to day, that is accessed with my Wiki.

Base might be used by quite a few people, certainly people here in the past have asked for a Database.

True, but I would be very surprised if the number of people using it would be anywhere near the number of people using spreadsheets. Although personally I think a lot more people should use databases. I'm an engineer, and we use spreadsheets all the time. But in most cases they are really the wrong tool for the job - we should be using either a database or a proper programming language/tool.

Yes - I agree totally. I work with engineers too and spreadsheets are everywhere. Rarely are they used for their original purpose - number crunching on a scratchpad. Mostly spreadsheets are used for simple databases - perhaps a real database is too complicated for an engineer's needs.

If they were truly used for "simple databases" it wouldn't be so bad, but we tend to end up creating incredibly complicated things. I think the trouble is that it seems like spreadsheets are very simple and anyone can create/use them. We start with a spreadsheet because that's what we know and it is easy to start with, but it gets more and more complicated and turns into an unweildy monster that is virtually impossible to debug or maintain.

linuxbear wrote:

I use spreadsheets heavily. Mostly for manipulating data that I need to generate control scripts.

What do you mean by "control scripts"?
One thing for which I do find spreadsheets are very well suited is writing simple shell scripts to automate repetive things without having to learn about regular expressions and string substitution and all the stuff that you need to write a proper efficient shell script._________________If you have or know of a good gtkdialog application, please post a link here

I know Java has a Control Panel applet on Windows that allows you to change the settings, including the security settings. Can we do that on Linux? I think I saw a setting to disallow unsigned (no certificate) Java apps... of course, I'm probably wrong.

That "control panel" would be launched with the command "jcontrol", assuming the package in question has all the necessary binaries and scripts linked into the executable path. Otherwise, go the the Java directory (/usr/java on my system and packages) and look for "jcontrol" inside the "bin" subdirectory.

I don't know what security options are presented, but that would be a likely place to look.

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