The south was on the wrong end of that 100%. Now they are trying to stop the unfair labor practices for people here illegally, and still they are called racist. Can't win.

If they were really interested in this why don't they ever offer stiffer penalties for the people that hire and exploit them and instead only focus on deporting dreamers and breaking up families? Hell now they don't even want the people that did come here legally to bring their families them! Talk about the family values party.

Every time I talk about throwing the people that knowingly hire illegals in prison, why doesn't any one on the right jump on that bandwagon?

'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan

If they were really interested in this why don't they ever offer stiffer penalties for the people that hire and exploit them and instead only focus on deporting dreamers and breaking up families? Hell now they don't even want the people that did come here legally to bring their families them! Talk about the family values party.

Every time I talk about throwing the people that knowingly hire illegals in prison, why doesn't any one on the right jump on that bandwagon?

Because people lie and provide false paperwork. Why place the burden of proof on small business owners. They didn't create this mess. E-Verify is the best solution we have right now. Trump and his base have been pushing for E-Verify since before Trump, but it's the left who doesn't want it....

It was. However, I would say the majority of the Souths dead were not, or never would have been, slave owners. They were fighting what they saw as northern aggression.

Nope, they were fighting for white supremacy.

'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan

or fighting to protect a system that kept even the lowliest white redneck off the bottom rung of the socio-economic ladder.

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'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan

Because people lie and provide false paperwork. Why place the burden of proof on small business owners. They didn't create this mess. E-Verify is the best solution we have right now. Trump and his base have been pushing for E-Verify since before Trump, but it's the left who doesn't want it....

See, those poor exploiters must be protected at all costs. Admit it you don't give a crap about the exploitation. I said knowingly. Trump hired illegals.

BTW if they did not hire them, there would not be a mess.

'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan

or fighting to protect a system that kept even the lowliest white redneck off the bottom rung of the socio-economic ladder.

Initially that's correct. But to say that men of the south all fought because of some racial or socio-economic motivation is IMO short sighted. The north wasn't kind to the inhabitants of the south during the war. Not kind at all.

See, those poor exploiters must be protected at all costs. Admit it you don't give a crap about the exploitation. I said knowingly. Trump hired illegals.

BTW if they did not hire them, there would not be a mess.

What's more clear than Everify is the answer. If it becomes the law of the land and the "exploiters" bypass it, then they would be guilty of a crime. I don't understand how you plan to charge someone for hiring a person who has lied about their citizenship and provided false paperwork.

They don't. Its a joke. Its just not the kind of thing you expect Sessions to say.

I know it was a joke. I am trying to be facetious.

Anyway, the joke has been hijacked and I guess we're now talking about how the average Confederate was fighting to keep from being on the lowest socio-economic rung and how current employers shouldn't be hiring undocumented workers.

Initially that's correct. But to say that men of the south all fought because of some racial or socio-economic motivation is IMO short sighted. The north wasn't kind to the inhabitants of the south during the war. Not kind at all.

Like so many soldiers, they had no logical basis to risk their life to kill people they had no complaint with. Why did they fight? reread "Cold Mountain" or watch the movie.

It was. However, I would say the majority of the Souths dead were not, or never would have been, slave owners. They were fighting what they saw as northern aggression.

I think most of them were fighting to defend their home states. The more ignorant among them probably believed that it was the North rather than the South that initiated hostilities, and may not have known that the South's declaration of why secession was necessary was based on the need to continue the institution of slavery. Of course, then too there were many in the western part of North Carolina and what is now West Virginia who did not support the Confederacy.

They have deported over a million immigrants in the past 2 years, how many of them were employed. The risk is not great enough to remove the incentive. And it should be 10 years.

'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan

Thursday following guilty pleas for hiring undocumented workers, not paying federal employment taxes and hiding the whole enterprise with an elaborate use of postal money orders, US Attorney Bill Nettles said in a news release.

'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan

What's more clear than Everify is the answer. If it becomes the law of the land and the "exploiters" bypass it, then they would be guilty of a crime. I don't understand how you plan to charge someone for hiring a person who has lied about their citizenship and provided false paperwork.

Are you having a hard time with the word "Knowingly?"

'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.'" Ronald Reagan