As Fox News reports, she believes House Oversight Committee Chairman Elijah Cummings will ultimately refer to have Cohen investigated by the Justice Department for perceived differences in his congressional testimonies.

But a perjury referral by Democrats, who control the committee, would mark a major escalation for Cohen’s potential legal jeopardy. Fox News exclusively reported on Friday, citing two sources familiar with the matter, that Cohen met with staff for Adam Schiff, D-Calif., for more than 10 hours before his testimony. In addition to his public remarks, Cohen has met with the House panel several times behind closed doors.

Even as she seemingly acknowledged that Democrats “can’t go anywhere” on impeaching President Trump at the moment, Hill indicated that Cummings had more than enough justification to request another criminal probe into Cohen, who has already pleaded guilty to lying to Congress in 2017 concerning the duration of negotiations to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

The California Democrat said she did not know personally if Cohen had lied, but theorized the chairman would allow the Justice Department to launch an inquiry into the matter.

“I don’t know if he lied or not,” Hill said. “I think that this is, Chairman Cummings is incredibly deliberate. I know that he’s reviewing the entire testimony, all the transcripts with [GOP ranking member Rep. Jim Jordan] who also is going to make sure that we get to the bottom of this.”

“I would imagine that in the panic that was going on when you’re about to go down [on criminal charges], right, that you’re going to say like ‘yeah, figure out whatever you can do,'” Hill continued. “And I imagine that Chairman Cummings will end up referring him. That’s just my guess.”

“I really think that this is about getting to the truth, about showing it to the American people, and then we go from there. But at the end of the day if — if people — you know, the citizens of the United States — don’t believe that it has risen to that level, then we can’t go anywhere,” she concluded. “So really it’s about exposing the truth and it’s about getting to the bottom of this and it’s about asking the questions of ‘Is this the kind of government, is this the kind of leadership that we want to see, is this OK, is this the kind of state that we want to leave our democracy in to our children?’ And right now I just don’t believe that it is.”

President Trump seemed to confirm that Cohen lied in a tweet that read: “Bad lawyer and fraudster Michael Cohen said under sworn testimony that he never asked for a Pardon. His lawyers totally contradicted him. He lied! Additionally, he directly asked me for a pardon. I said NO. He lied again! He also badly wanted to work at the White House. He lied!”