The problem with that opener is that while your burst is higher, you have a much lower sustained overall. With your rotation you're basically just wasting your entire first BW on cooldowns, DB/Stampede specifically. Your opener is similar to how things were in Cata, but with how things are now I believe it's far from ideal

I was doing this, and found it better to have traps down, MD, pre-pot, (pulling now) Dire Beast, MoC, Stampede, then SrS, pop BW/RF and go through the priority and keep doing this. I found lynx Rush just wasn't doing it. I felt MoC hurt the focus but was worth it. Thoughts?

ty for the video taught me a few neat things , will try it out in raid next time

is it possible to get a copy of that txt file so i can keep it as a quick glance sheet on my other screen ?

just rerolled as a hunter after 5 yrs of ret so im still learning so many new things every day about this class =D

Let me clean it up a bit and I'll post it after raid.

Originally Posted by Zerato

I was doing this, and found it better to have traps down, MD, pre-pot, (pulling now) Dire Beast, MoC, Stampede, then SrS, pop BW/RF and go through the priority and keep doing this. I found lynx Rush just wasn't doing it. I felt MoC hurt the focus but was worth it. Thoughts?

Problem with your rotation is that you're not using MoC during BW, which is a lot of extra focus cost. I agree with you 100% on MoC, but LR was simply a filler. MoC can be swapped in for that spot just as easily. Although keep in mind next patch LR is going to be beating MoC by a large margin.

The problem with that opener is that while your burst is higher, you have a much lower sustained overall. With your rotation you're basically just wasting your entire first BW on cooldowns, DB/Stampede specifically. Your opener is similar to how things were in Cata, but with how things are now I believe it's far from ideal

You're missing the fact that I'm also not losing out on trinket procs being stacked with my other cooldowns while you are. In those 2 gcds, I would be doing 2 arcane shots which could potentially give me some cobra strikes and that's it. If I delay as much as you do, I lose out on lining up huge damage cooldowns with 2 agi trinket procs that are worth much more dps.

You're missing the fact that I'm also not losing out on trinket procs being stacked with my other cooldowns while you are. In those 2 gcds, I would be doing 2 arcane shots which could potentially give me some cobra strikes and that's it. If I delay as much as you do, I lose out on lining up huge damage cooldowns with 2 agi trinket procs that are worth much more dps.

How am I missing out exactly? I am getting full duration of my trinkets while, taking RNG into account, the chances of you having both of your trinkets up immediately at the start of the fight is very very low. If you really check your WoL, overall, I think you would find the same to be true of you.

How am I missing out exactly? I am getting full duration of my trinkets while, taking RNG into account, the chances of you having both of your trinkets up immediately at the start of the fight is very very low. If you really check your WoL, overall, I think you would find the same to be true of you.

While the trinket proc not being up initially might be true for the darkmoon trinket at times, it is never true for the elegon trinket. The elegon trinket procs immediately or 1-2 seconds in every fight, at least according to my logs. With my current rotation, I am barely able to fit both of my bestial wraths into my pre pot + elegon trinket + skull banners/stormlash totems. Adding 5-6 seconds to that, as you do, would cause me to miss out on much more stacked cd damage. Also, you could optimize my own rotation a bit better and dire beast while running in initially and then you'd only be wasting one gcd on stampede during BW while not having to delay it 5-6 seconds and missing out on stacking it with trinket/pot/banners.

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Thanks for sharing. Setting up my BM spec at the moment in preparation for my raid tomorrow. I've been stubbornly sticking to Survival up until now but I feel like it's time I try BM out. Will be nice to have a video to check up on whenever I need a refresher.