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If your name is not there and you are coming then please post here, especially if you need basic aid equipment...
... (Though you are more than welcome to just turn up anyway)!

Agreed weather doesn't look tropical, but there's no front forecast that I can see. More of a low pressure trough from our friends in NSW. Forecast has been improving a bit over the last 36 hours.

Mansfield's weather is much better than Hotham's in the forecast - does anyone with local knowledge know if Buff is more in alignment with it (regarding rain) because it is further west or does it follow Hotham/Falls due to its altitude? Still going.

On 18/11/2013 sbm wrote:>Although it's still a week out, the forecasts are starting to get a clue...and>the weather is looking pretty sh@t.>>There are rumblings in my camp that our time will be better spent elsewhere,>or at least delaying our arrival a day or two to miss the end of thursdays>cold front.

Aren't you guys supposed to be signing up for a weekend of suffering? What's with the whingeing about a spot of weather?
Did Harding complain about the darkness on the final pitch of the Nose? Did Herbert moan about the cold and damp on The Muir? Did Lia scream about the lightning on Anxiety?

On 18/11/2013 Pat wrote:>Agreed weather doesn't look tropical, but there's no front forecast that>I can see. More of a low pressure trough from our friends in NSW. Forecast>has been improving a bit over the last 36 hours.>>Mansfield's weather is much better than Hotham's in the forecast - does>anyone with local knowledge know if Buff is more in alignment with it (regarding>rain) because it is further west or does it follow Hotham/Falls due to>its altitude? Still going.

I live close on the north side, and tend to cross reference Hotham with Wangaratta for Buffalo weather guestimates!

Mt Buffalo is kind of unique for it's weather, due being slightly apart (west) from the main range.
In summer it can act like a magnet for localised rain, though at this time of year it will often cop the worst of an approaching SW frontal system in the early stages, then clear to cool/cold quite quickly.

I am heartened that the next front is coming through late Wednesday evening -> into Thursday, so I expect the weather to be worst on Thursday (possible 50 mm rain), and then clearing Friday.
If the front slows down, then the clearing will only happen late on Friday with possible residual showers into Saturday.

Buffalo is a big place, and the Gorge area is relatively sheltered from SW weather which is fortunate, as this is where most of our activity will be on Saturday. My guess is that the Cathedral / Horn areas will be bleak on Saturday, ... but this won't affect us.
By Sunday the Devils Couch area (that we also utilise), should be shower free and will be out of the colder SW winds that usually follow the fronts.

The lastest weather forecast I heard indicates the worst weather will be east (and south), of the main range, and this is where Buffalo being slightly west helps it clear faster...

Caveat: We are talking weather here, and I have been known to be wrong about my predictions in the past!

On 18/11/2013 kieranl wrote:>On 18/11/2013 sbm wrote:>>Although it's still a week out, the forecasts are starting to get a clue...and>>the weather is looking pretty sh@t.>>>>There are rumblings in my camp that our time will be better spnorlsewhere,>>or at least delaying our arrival a day or two to miss the end of thursdays>>cold front.>>Aren't you guys supposed to be signing up for a weekend of suffering?>What's with the whingeing about a spot of weather? >Did Harding complain about the darkness on the final pitch of the Nose?>Did Herbert moan about the cold and damp on The Muir? Did Lia scream about>the lightning on Anxiety?

Yeah well there's toughing out suffering when you have the experience to make the call, and then there's descending into the Gorge for the first time when its 5 degrees and raining, with zero big wall bivouac experience, and a partner who was planning to sleep in a hammock and doesn't own a proper shell. Plans should change with the weather.

If we have to get rescued while hypothermic or bail in a cluster we'd be rightly slagged off here as underprepared morons...lose lose. Shouldn't have posted anything.

Hi
Yeah - or at least I hope to be ( if it all works out OK) . . . Best laid plans etc etc . .. .
Not sure of leave time - Late thursday/ sometime Friday??? Probably have to leave late Sunday too to be back sometime early monday . . ..

Had originally hoped/planned to be down there at least a week . .. oh well . . ..
Still trying to get it all confirmed and locked in . . ..

Will bring down a bit of extra kit if I do make it down, and can show people how to tie up some nice basic aiders if they bring a few metres of tape along . ..

On 19/11/2013 Macciza wrote:>Hi>Yeah - or at least I hope to be ( if it all works out OK) . . . Best laid>plans etc etc . .. .>Not sure of leave time - Late thursday/ sometime Friday??? Probably have>to leave late Sunday too to be back sometime early monday . . ..>>Had originally hoped/planned to be down there at least a week . .. oh>well . . ..>Still trying to get it all confirmed and locked in . . ..

G'day Macciza,

Sounds as though its all a bit up in the air for you. That's cool with me as I have a mate coming down on sunday and we're staying the week. But if you do end up going earlier fro the aid weekend would it be cool to catch a lift and share petrol? My car is shit but I can drive to meet you anywhere.

Cheers

Reg

PS I tried to send you a PM but your box is full or something. When I can I'll give you my number via PM

I'm interested in attending - thinking of turning up Friday arvo and maybe staying till Monday or Tuesday. Anyone from the ACT looking for a lift let me know - (BTW WazACT probably wont be able to make it.)

On 19/11/2013 RayACT wrote:>I'm interested in attending - thinking of turning up Friday arvo and maybe>staying till Monday or Tuesday. Anyone from the ACT looking for a lift>let me know - (BTW WazACT probably wont be able to make it.)

Welcome to Chockstone RayACT, and thanks for the heads up. You are more than welcome to attend.

I note you ticked aid/big wall in your profile, so I assume you will be right for basic aid gear?
If you happen to have any surplus (etts/daisies), can you please bring same along to share if needed?
Cheers,
Idra~>M9

I'll be self sufficient as far as gear goes although sorry to say I don't have much spare stuff. My aiding experience is limited unless you count pulling on slings when trad climbing as aid - in that case I have shitloads of experience.