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Another site that I visited (can’t find it quickly right now) claims that the FB page was scrubbed.

Be back soon for more commentary.

~ Christine

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Sorry about the delay regarding more commentary, but new developments might help to shed some light upon the reason why this sick individual purposely crashed a plane filled with 149 people.

First, research has led to the possibility that the FB page created (and then deleted) was propaganda meant to steer people in the wrong direction regarding the perpetrator’s religious beliefs.

Popular blogger Pamela Geller reported about the same FB page yesterday. Comments (over 265) vary under the article.

That said, we still don’t have all of the answers yet. Not sure that we ever will.

Reports today are pointing towards mental illness and depression which can lead someone into absolute hopelessness and despair, causing them to take their own lives. However, not every person who suffers with such illnesses intends, or carries out a plan to kill 149 other people along with themselves.

For example. Actor Robin Williams suffered from depression and (reportedly) the onset of Parkinson’s disease which caused many to conclude that he took his own life so that he wouldn’t be a burden to his family.

In the Lubitz case, the suicidal person planned out his own demise and obviously desired to take many others (most of them strangers) along with him. That is not just suicide. It is a homicidal act of murder, often attributed to serial killers.

Thanks Ciria! I ended up being too busy today to complete the post! Hopefully, more information tomorrow.

It is weird that NO ONE on Fox News wants to say that this homicidal maniac could have been an Islamic terrorist. It seems that it’s OK to say, “domestic” terrorist. Political correctness is just so tiresome…

Are you actually walking back on your ‘WAS ANDREAS LUBITZ A MUSLIM?” line?
Because there’s no reason to think he was. Since a recording of the flight’s last moments exists, there has been no report claiming he shouted “god is great” or the like from inside the flight deck. You and others have pointed out that he was very emotionally disturbed, and that we may never know exactly what pushed him over the edge.
Yet only three months ago, your first thought of another airliner crash was something quite different. The phrase ‘Islamic terrorist death mission’ hasn’t crossed your keyboard this time.

No one thought about Adam Lanza that way, even though he also clearly planned his own demise and planned to take as many others (most of them strangers) as possible with him. Of course, he killed “only” 27 people. As far as I know, the word “Muslim” was never mentioned in the same breath with his name, although some actually did use “terrorist”.
Maybe Fox isn’t flinging the Muslim connection around because there isn’t any. Ever think of that?
Remember the crash of AirAsia QZ8501 last December? There was a lot of terrorist speculation on Fox then, but nothing came of it. Even they can cry ‘wolf’ only so much.

But I see you’ve already moved on to the next cause celebre, so I’ll stop here.

I’m aware of your update. I acknowledged it previously. That’s why I asked if you were backtracking on your speculation that Lubitz was a Muslim. I see now that you’re tiptoeing around that question.

According to the MSM you so despise (even Fox?), Lubitz had a history of severe depression (a “small mountain” of anti-depressants was found in his apartment) and he was concerned about deteriorating eyesight as well.

There are of course those who believe he was a recent convert to Islam, but there’s no evidence of that. I don’t see how he could have found the time, since he’d been busy cheating on his girlfriend for some months before the crash. Both of them have described his behavior as “psychotic”.
I got facts. What have you got?

At this point I don’t know for sure whether or not Lubitz was a convert to Islam. Perhaps the people who do know about this are afraid to come forward with any information.

The FB page was created by “fans” who attributed Islamic ideology towards him. There were so few comments (and one in particular was very vulgar) and they were all in English, so who knows whether or not the conversion theory is legitimate? From what I understand, that page and Lubitz’s original FB page have been taken down.

As the link within my former comment states, the actions of Lubitz were of the kamikaze nature. Whether or not he was involved (or sympathetic to) radical Islam is still in question. The blog author showed the similarities of another pilot who flew a kamikaze mission, killing all aboard, listed other examples in recent history, and went on to describe some information that others may not know:

Like Iriyanto, el-Batouty had also been an Air Force pilot for his country. A 2012 article that was published in the Atlantic included the following excerpt:

Experts informed viewers of Egyptian television that it was impossible for el Batouty to have taken his own life because he was a good Muslim and suicide is haram (forbidden) in Islam.

For the record, all 19 hijackers on 9/11 considered themselves “good” Muslims who were committing suicide while killing infidels. As we have learned, the fundamentalist tactic known as Muruna even permits the killing of other Muslims in the process if it serves a greater “good”.

There are additional links within those paragraphs at the blog which give information about the Islamic idea of “Muruna” and more revelations and explanations of modern day Muslim Jihad Kamikazes.

Lots of questions are probably still unanswered. Did Lubitz live near a radical mosque? Did he ever venture into one? The list goes on and on. I suppose that time will tell once all that can be known is finally revealed.

At this point I don’t know for sure whether or not Lubitz was a convert to Islam. Perhaps the people who do know about this are afraid to come forward with any information.
Perhaps there’s nothing for anyone to come forward with, because Lubitz had had nothing to do with Islam. Ever thought of that?

The FB page was created by “fans” who attributed Islamic ideology towards him. There were so few comments (and one in particular was very vulgar) and they were all in English, so who knows whether or not the conversion theory is legitimate?
You’re writing as if you know. But you don’t, and neither does Shoebat.

[quote]Experts informed viewers of Egyptian television that it was impossible for el Batouty to have taken his own life because he was a good Muslim and suicide is haram (forbidden) in Islam.[/quote]
Suicide is forbidden in Christianity, too. That hasn’t stopped people of both faiths from committing it—or murder either, for that matter. Don’t take my word for that—check the police reports.

Did Lubitz live near a radical mosque?
Let’s put aside what a ‘radical’ mosque is, for the moment. If you believe that such a place sends out evil Islamic waves that affect minds, then everyone in Lubitz’s neighborhood should have been affected, not just him. Got any evidence of that?
AFAIK, the people who live near a certain radical church do not seem to agree with that church. They don’t picket gays and soldiers’ funerals, and have been known to send church members packing.
I got facts. What have you got?