You're parsing it too finely, I think, yggy. The whole thing, before and after the denouncement caused the parents serious pain. I remember reading something by a survivor whose wife and child did die there. (He was somewhere else, I don't remember where or why) and even now, 30+ years later it's still a gaping hole in his life. And he still thinks that there were some very good things about it. Even those who didn't die there are outsiders for having any sort of meaning attached to that group except disgust and hatred. Think of it as a great bloody smear across your life, one that may grow smaller with time, but never go away.

The Lady with a Lamprey

"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri

Oh, you can (and if I know you, will) make jew jokes. I won't even point out that you're in a different position with that punch line, but if you make jokes that are going to hurt people, I expect you to take your medicine.

The Lady with a Lamprey

"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri

I gotta go with Don Rickles........as long as you offend everyone, it's ok.If we tiptoe around people, so as not to offend anyone..........well, it's just not o.k.

sure, don't single out an individual person for ridicule related to things beyond their control, but, as groups? "doors open".

Kool-aid jokes, are no different than red-neck jokes, ethnic jokes, stupid jokes, gender jokes........on and on.....it's all gotta be on the table, or we risk ostracizing, the very people we think we protect.

Hell, every laughs at jokes about white guys.........why, is it not ok for others?

I'm not talking about not making those jokes. I'm talking about saying, Yes, I understand that that cut you and I'm sorry. It's like with great power goes great responsibility. Or cleaning up the messes you make. I make all sorts of dark jokes about all sorts of targets, but I understand that not everyone has my sense of humor. Do I think that someone whose grandparents were killed in the great terror should think that apokaliptika is okay? I'm happy to apologize, and expect him or her to stay out of that slice of A afterwards.

The Lady with a Lamprey

"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri

It sucks when your cherished cult ends up an incredibly destructive nightmare. It's a good lesson though if it happens to you and you get to the point where you understand that it can be a lesson. How often do we hear from people who have actually moved on?

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Turtleburp wrote:Now if I'd bothered to do my homework I'd have known there actually were survivors (bloody quitters) and my joke about parents dying before I was born may have been funny.

Hah! I was confused about how your parents could've died before you were born, but too stupid or sleepy to realise you were joking. I'm not quite sure what I thought you might have been trying to say, but anyways, then you sparked a (mock-? i can never tell) serious discussion about political correctness and offensive humour, which was actually quite an enjoyable read. So, while your comment may have failed as a joke, it was a successful little bit of (unintentional) trollery. Well done!

Bumble wrote:Can you block people on eplaya?

Not sure if this is a serious question here, but since you're new to ePlaya, I'll assume it is and answer accordingly. If you want to block ("plonk") someone, click on their username beside one of their posts, then select "add foe" (smack in the middle of the page). That will prevent you from seeing their posts, although they can still PM you. But seriously, cut Turtle a little slack. His iPhone mismanagement skills are worthy of snark but probably not plonking, IMHO.

And maybe it was another piece of troll theatre.

Or, wait... are you and Turtle actually 2 different people? Or are both of you really Simon's socks?

The internet is making me paranoid.

If you want drama to stop following you everywhere, try letting go of the leash.