its def like when you say "indie rock" you mean Arcade Fire and Sonic Youth, but to other people it means Owl City and She & Him and Mumford & Sons and Kings Of Leon (ie, shit that gets half the writeups of the shit we like but sells enormo numbers)

its def like when you say "indie rock" you mean Arcade Fire and Sonic Youth, but to other people it means Owl City and She & Him and Mumford & Sons and Kings Of Leon (ie, shit that gets half the writeups of the shit we like but sells enormo numbers)

this is otm but in order to retain my cheery disposition I have to pretend he is notm

oops sorry Whiney, you just said that! but do folks really conceive of that stuff as "dubstep????" I guess I think of it as some kind of electro / house post-Daft Punk world where everything is big and obvious and robotic because Human After All somehow convinced bros that you could listen to electronic music in the same big-slabs-of-noise spirit you'd listen to nu-metal

Yeah the Big Beat era version of brostep was like def Crystal Method. Except stuff like Prodigy/Fatboy Slim def had both Spin/bro crossover. I don't think ANY dubstep/"dubstep" artist is successfully reaching both audiences right now!

I guess I think of it as some kind of electro / house post-Daft Punk world where everything is big and obvious and robotic because Human After All somehow convinced bros that you could listen to electronic music in the same big-slabs-of-noise spirit you'd listen to nu-metal

can we please not mention one of the secretly best albums of the '00s in connection w/ this mass popularization of electro/dubstep ;_;

Yeah, but mopeyemo had like a solid 10 years of indie-level post-Rites Of Spring star tattoo messenger bag ish before the other thing sort of grew as a logical mainstream Alt-Press extension of it. The two dubsteps both sort of came to their peaks of attention at the same time!

which is why it's confusing. It's not like the 10 year gap between Black Flag and Youth Of Today on some "don't call this hardcore, this is not what I call hardcore" hairsplitting. Its two distinct sounds with two distinct audiences, rising at the same time, both with the same name and often completely unaware of the others' existence!

I mean, this disparity might say a lot more about the sheltered world that WE (as music nerds/hipsters/indie-type/et al) live in, than the way fratbros react to music. I mean, I had like 900 posts in the last three years like "No one listens to dubstep" when I really meant "No one listens to the type of lol dubstep we talk about, because I'm mostly unaware of this bigger trend also occuring"

the dead were the highest grossing touring act in the world for years, icp play areans, its not even close - and then THIS:

our v own aerosmith has played on TV (great work btw), but widespread panic has sold out red rocks 35 times (according to wiki) and i'd hazard one of those gigs is more lucrative than the other, both in the short- and long-term

not that i have anything invested in "the 'original' dubstep" — i just didn't realize the extent to which the term had been genericized. like i understand that "rave" = any kind of lowest-common denominator thumping electronic tedium, but i didn't realize the same thing had happened to what i still think of as a fairly narrow 'boutique' genre term. (better analogy than the 'legal thriller' one would be learning that millions of ppl think of "Hey Soul Sister" as 'freak-folk')

so ive just listened to some of this bro step and its connection to the murky ilxorian dubstep is p clear - its like someone just applied a corny populist party filter to it - on a side note its kinda hilarious that this should happen to dubstep in that it seems to be music that takes itself seriously