judeye

I love reading about women who made a difference. Especially local women, who too often their stories have been ignored by history.

One that I just read about is Ana Clift Smith. She was an artist in the very early 1900 who stayed for an entire year..including the winter..in Van Buren! The only heat she had was from wood burning in the fireplace and the only water she could get she had to break from ice on the lake. She wore trousers and would ride a horse into town when she needed supplies. She supported herself by her art work..which I am desperately trying to find. (hint if anyone comes across any art by her..please let me know)

I am in awe of her. Growing up in Van Buren I can only imagine how difficult, cold and brutal those long winter nights must have been for her with NO electric and NO water except for what she could haul.

Great writing Renee..great stories! Thanks for bringing these 'forgotten' women back for us.

Steiner

Excellent article Renee ! excellent for showing how confused activist women are. Temperance good ? , huh, it led to prohibition, organized crime and corruption in govt on a scale not seen before. thanks gals ! ****fortable dresss ? I am for that too ! The skimpier the better. Gender equality ? hardly, the women need their man, the govt to take care of them.The fluke gal proved that. The weaker vessel I suppose. the feminists of the 60s missed the e-revolution marching in NY for social justice. I love social justice .It sends activists on a tangent while the men do the science. We need more to sidetrack all the activist women. A partial list, Renee of men who changed the Tesla, von Linde, Haber, Von Neumann, Jobs, frank Holmes. So gals , it would appear your feminine intuition is not working so good these last 150 years.

joew

Steiner-for goodness sake's man tone it down. I am very conservative(surprise surprise!)but I must say the article was well written and informative. My only point of contention is the women in combat part. BIG mistake.

USMCVET

joew...women have already been in combat zones. Why not allow them to be able to advance? Women who have already returned fire and have been wounded deserve the same opportunities as men. I've seen some tough Woman Marines in my day.

Steiner

hey joew, what i have said are historical facts. They seem to get attacked here. we need dk's input now for sure.If you are an hegelian or a marxist you know that life is an interplay of opposing forces. If you can sidetrack or divert your oppostion, all the better. Some of the sidetracks I have seen printed are , anti fracking, voting rights, health isssues , tax the wealthy, etc. All written by activists woemen unles the names were fake. So i say have at it gals. It diverts you by the millions , like NYC in the 60's.The cops laughed at the demonstrators in NYC and so did the money men. truckloads of money going east out of silicon valley.All missed in the struggle for social justice . The wrinkled men spoken of by delta phi epsilon prof will just keep on chugging away. Hey judeye, no electric ? thank tesla for electricity .Historical facts again, not snookered even. What is wrong with this approach ?

USMCVET

Steiner...have you ever heard of Marie Curie, Jane Goodall, Maria Mayer, Rosalind Franklin or Barbara McClintock? I love the Teslas too. Heck, why aren't we using and doing more with Teslas work? Don't you wonder why his work was confiscated after he died?

Yes, prohibition was bad...because criminals took advantage of a situation. Criminals still take advantage of such situations, like drugs. With your thinking, we should just let everyone have all the drugs they want. In those days the men who where supposed to be taking care of their families were drunk. What could the women do in that time? Why don't you invent a time machine and go back and fix it.

USMCVET

Renee...it looks like you have done some research about our communities. You are a very entertaining writer. Have you talked with the local historian, D. Sheppard? Thanks for bringing the Observer up with good writing.

joew

USMC Vet-first off thanks for your service! I am not in any way opposed to Women being denied advancement.I do not see how not allowing women into the Infantry subdues the opportunity to advance. Do you think allowing women to be part of a LRRP is a good idea? What about the sanitation and privacy needs. As a 28 year active duty Vet I saw some pretty gory and sickening stuff in Vietnam. I can't imagine what the memories would be like if I had seen women in that mix. You see I think men would react much differently seeing a wounded female as opposed to a wounded male.I know I would! Maybe it's my age,maybe its what I leaned from my Dad,always do what you must to protect a woman. That could be a mission detractor in some cases and could cause further loss of life or injuries. Those are my reasons. Semper Fi from an ARMY guy.

DKexpat

Steiner must have awoken late today – I’d have bet a buck-dollar-eighty-nine his would be the first post on this topic.

:-)

From his idol, Nikola Tesla:

“It is not in the shallow physical imitation of men that women will assert first their equality and later their superiority, but in the awakening of the intellect of women.”

“But the female mind has demonstrated a capacity for all the mental acquirements and achievements of men, and as generations ensue that capacity will be expanded; the average woman will be as well educated as the average man, and then better educated, for the dormant faculties of her brain will be stimulated to an activity that will be all the more intense and powerful because of centuries of repose. Woman will ignore precedent and startle civilization with their progress.”

USMCVET

joew, I agree that the things we have seen are gory. None of us should ever be subjected to such destruction. There certainly are problems. The percentage of rape in the military is higher than seen in the civilian world too. There are problems and the women have been in and seen the destruction. They should get all the campaign medals and combat pay if they are in combat. They are there now. It's just that now the DOD is acknowledging the fact.

My father taught me the proper way to treat a lady too and he would want me to pound anyone who would hurt a woman.

DKexpat

I called my wife and told her to read the article - she gave me this quote:

"Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition." ~ Timothy Leary

Why didn't I think that was funny? :-)

And this one: [Barbara Bush, speaking at the Wellesley College Commencement, in 1990] "Somewhere out in this audience may even be someone who will one day follow in my footsteps and preside over the White House as the President's spouse. I wish him well!"

Steiner

Het dk, you are fond of quotes. yes Tesla is one of my idols. How is it then, Dk, the women have not done much ? The men have buried the women.Always ignored or mocked in the posts here. From Carrie Nation , Maggie sanger, all the NOW feminists, the women have consistantly went down the non science path for social justice . Even great minds like tesla can make mistakes.What are ya waiting for gals ? I never get a good answer on that. Dk is good with quotes, but not who did what. Dk, another quote maybe ?And Dk, Tesla did change the world far greater than any feminist did. No ?

Steiner

Het dk, you are fond of quotes. yes Tesla is one of my idols. How is it then, Dk, the women have not done much ? The men have buried the women.Always ignored or mocked in the posts here. From Carrie Nation , Maggie sanger, all the NOW feminists, the women have consistantly went down the non science path for social justice . Even great minds like tesla can make mistakes.What are ya waiting for gals ? I never get a good answer on that. Dk is good with quotes, but not who did what. Dk, another quote maybe ?And Dk, Tesla did change the world far greater than any feminist did. No ?

Steiner

In the simplest terms, posters, all the science processes running and taken for granted were invented by men. This gives us the world we take for granted. In 4 decades in chemical industry I only met 6 women. Cosmetically challenged guys like myself kept doing the work.women think differently than men, confirmed by female researchers , written in books. Why do most women shun the boys club, another term written by women trying to break into the boys club of science. All from business journals. The women see the overwhelming lead the men have. All facts posters. Hey vet, prohibition was to stop the violence. It backfired on a huge scale. It changed america for the worse ,even after repeal.

Steiner

hey dk, a Tesla quote for you. the hertzian wave theory is an aberration, an error. tesla produced quotes and working machines. My machines are based on the comment about hertz waves. So I have quotes and machines, just like tesla.I did it without govt funding too libs.Now libs, what do you have ?