Comments on: Report: NCAA grills Manziel on autographshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/
ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comTue, 20 Mar 2018 00:45:47 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: bigsdawghttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2748425
Wed, 28 Aug 2013 07:24:18 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2748425(“Yes, we know it’s not a pro football issue. But since Manziel undoubtedly will be in the next pro football draft, his ability to play college football this year could be slightly relevant to his pro football draft stock.”)
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Touché

]]>By: inallsincerityhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746797
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 17:49:54 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746797The ironic thing is, about a month ago, if you typed Reggie Bush’s name in the search engine on the NCAA website, you could have purchased autographed merchandise bearing his likeness…HA!

These autograph vendors paid Manziel cash so it couldn’t be traced, just to find out he was doing the same thing for all of their competitors.

These vendors get pissed and go to the NCAA, but can’t provide the smoking gun because they don’t want to lose out on future college clientele- and they want the NCAA to exact their (the vendor’s) revenge because they realize they just got duped into an inflated Manziel-autograph market.

I bet none of these guys are even licensed to sell college merchandise

]]>By: cjvirnighttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746677
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:54:49 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746677I love how the NCAA gets to cherry-pick its investigative process. As any fan of college football knows, the NCAA USUALLY moves about half as fast as the slowest turtle on Earth while conducting investigations. Yet in the Johnny Football case, the investigation seems to be in hyperdrive. They even managed a convenient 6 hour sitdown BEFORE the first game. Seems a little disingenuous to me. No wonder why the BIG 5 conferences want to break away from the NCAA and form their own league…
]]>By: herrcules13http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746602
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:23:42 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746602“bylaw 12.5.2.2, which compels student-athletes to take steps to prevent the sale of items bearing their names or likenesses.”

Class action lawsuit against the NCAA? Maybe hit THEM in the pocketbook and they’ll address their hypocrisy.

]]>By: FinFan68http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746462
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:44:52 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746462I’m surprised they already talked to him. I expected a long drawn out investigation that ends with a mid-January press conference announcing their findings and a hefty suspension for Manziel for the next season he never intended on playing anyway.
]]>By: rodgers419http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746452
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:41:43 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746452A college education is payment? Might as well pay him in confederate dollars.
]]>By: footballradioshowhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746446
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:39:48 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746446NCAA: Mr. Manziel, did you take money to sign autographs?
Manziel: No.
NCAA: Sounds good to us, now make sure you don’t miss the Bama game.

No chance he was gonna get hammered, ( by the NCAA) before the Alabama game. NCAA loves the SEC

]]>By: northstarnichttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746421
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:25:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746421While the NFL is led by a bunch of money-grubbing, greedy, slimy suits, at least they are relatively transparent about it. NCAA pretends to be about academics and preparing student athletes for the real world. Meanwhile they line their pockets on the backs of these kids, half of whom don’t even get an education, but are just there to play ball and let “tutors” do the work for them (which the schools often enable, or at least ignore). At the same time, colleges and universities continue to drive up tuition costs at absurd rates, making higher education more and more a privilege reserved for the already privileged class and practically out of reach for those at the low economic end of society.
Manziel is a spoiled rich kid just looking for a few more bucks. The real victims are the kids we don’t hear about who are losing scholarships/opportunities because they are making business moves to prepare for life after college. And then there’s the non-athletes who can’t afford school at all due to tuition costs while schools build billion dollar stadiums.
And we wonder why we are falling behind as a nation.
]]>By: bobzilla1001http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746405
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:19:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746405Get out your checkbook and pay for your kid’s college education, then tell me college players aren’t being compensated.
Manziel ought to attend classes, because he has no chance of lasting long in the NFL. Then again, I suppose one contract ought to tide him over until heads for mommy and daddy’s basement.
]]>By: annes22http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746372
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:01:04 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746372All this talk about Johnny Football is getting boring. He obviously got paid for all of this, you don’t sign 100’s of items and not get paid.
Just get on and suspend him, and then wait until his NFL career plumets in the draft. He’s been out of control all through his vacation period, we have to listen to new stories every week, who cares???
]]>By: 8to80texansbloghttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746355
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:53:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746355@justckuckn

You must be a KSU alum…. I don’t think anyone ever thought Klein should get the Heisman…. and true champion of what? Johnny Football and the Aggies would have done what every high octane offense did to the Wildcats last year…. and run them out of the building.

Manziel obviously did this. The autograph brokers won’t say another word though, due to legal ramifications. Manziel will probably get off with a 2 game suspension at most. Is it right? No. Is Manziel the first do this? No. Will he be the last? No.

Manziel isn’t the problem. He’s a symptom of the bigger problem, and that is artificial suppression of CFB player’s financial value. There is no easy cure, but absolute hypocrisy of the NCAA definitely doesn’t do anything to help.

]]>By: thetooloftoolshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746346
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:50:05 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746346Somebody need to sue the NCAA and stop their unbridled greed and manipulation. I hope they get hammered in that EA Sports lawsuit.
]]>By: brohammahttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746345
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:49:24 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746345Sheesh! For a moment there the article was quoting comments made by Travis (I’ve fathered at least eleven children from ten different women) Henry.
]]>By: justchucknhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746319
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:35:15 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746319just give the Heisman to Klein already! I mean with manziel being manziel and teo being well teo just take it all away and give it to a true champion!
]]>By: timinatoriahttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746317
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:34:43 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746317For those of you who think college players should be able to sell autographs….this just in.

Boone Pickens has announced he will pay each player on the Oklahoma State Cowboys $50,000 for an autograph. Phil Knight has announced he will give $75K for the autographs of 5* HS players who sign letters of intent with Oregon.

Anyone see any potential issues with allowing players to sell their autographs?

I get the whole “scholorship” thing, but I had a scholorship to college too, and I was allowed to work a job & sell my stuff when I needed money….because thats how America works.
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Amazed but not amused that suddenly the NCAA is put on trial after years of these draconian rules. Now and only now, have you come to defend a player. Where have you been? Where were you when Dez Bryant and the OSU kids got slammed?Not a word of support for them.

Unfortunately, the NCAA will agree with you and they will be lenient on a guy, who by precious standards, should be banned for life. There has NEVER been a more BLATANT and IN YOUR FACE example of NCAA violations. But now it’s OK?

]]>By: beardown75http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746273
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:13:44 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746273Why not let these kids make $ of their likenesses. Put the $ in a trust of some sort that they can only access upon GRADUATION. If they are that good and want to leave early for a big $ payday then the $ goes back to the school to offset the scholarship that the school paid them to showcase their talents. It is the school that gave them this opportunity to get to the pros by putting $ up front for the player’s “education”.
]]>By: mtheparrotheadhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746270
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:12:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746270@donthe8,

You must be in admissions I assume? 3 times ain’t autocorrect champ.

]]>By: rutchaserhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746247
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:01:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746247I dont care if he took money or not. I just hope he can play because he sure is fun to watch.
]]>By: patswhatsuphttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746235
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:56:15 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746235Fact of the matter is, many of the college football players that COULD sign things for money, are already being paid. A full ride scholarship is payment right there. Additionally, I believe they should be able to be paid, even by the school. Set a small reasonable salary that the players can earn. These kids practice and have meetings so much and play games, combined with school, that they don’t have time for a job! A former coworker of my fiance said he was on food stamps when he played for Oregon because he couldn’t work due to the demanding schedule!
]]>By: whealy86http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746230
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:54:00 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746230Those of you who feel college players should get money just like the schools do , I highly disagree. These kids don’t get paid but get something in return that’s more important and that’s a college education , if they dont decide to waste it. College is not cheap and going for free because you have athletic ability sounds alright to me. How about kids around the world who exceed in high school , grade wise but they don’t have the funds to go. Some of those kids could be the next einsteen, or save a life as a doctor, but none will get the chance because a lot of these college football players take it for granted and abuse the free ride given to them. My grandfather has always said, ” the only football I watch , is college footballs because they play for the chance to go to the NFL and they”re not getting paid already”. That sums up why college football is great.
]]>By: Akulahttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746227
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:52:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746227So it takes this for the NCAA to wonder how a kid on a college budget can appear all over the country in the off season.
]]>By: topcidehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746216
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:47:44 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746216This one is tricky,

As My wife and I are a young couple in their 30’s that are still paying off her student loans, one part of me says that a scholarship is payment enough.

With that being said, It’s pretty absurd that up untill the story broke you could literally go to the NCAA shop online and search Manziel and a texas AM jersey with his # would come up. Once the story broke, suddenly the search function was disabled. (This is true, look into it).

I don’t necessarily think that football players should be directly paid to play football at a college, I’d say that the scholarship is direct compensation enough. However if a players name, likeness, ETC has value in autograph sales, endorsements, or what have you, then it’s only right that the player should be able to benefit from that.

Really the NCAA is the biggest set hippocrits i have ever seen, the make millions off of pimping a player out left and right,then if the player asks for a cut the NCAA trots out the B.S. line that they are students first knowing damn well that they are not held any remotely comparable standard as another student.

For example, I live in Ann Arbor, Michigan, home to U Of M. Michgan is by far the hardest school to get into in the state, and one of the tougher in the country. I was a pretty good student in high school but had no realistic possibility of going to college there, so I went to a state school. The majority of football players there would have gotten laughed out of the admissions office if they could not play ball. Obiovusly there are exception to the rule, but I think everyone agrees that a sizeable % of them don’t come close to meeting basic standards.

And on the flipside, If you have a kid on academic scholarship that’s a brilliant mathmatician or chemist, and texas insterments want’s them to endorse a calculator, or they write a textbook during school, they are free to profit from that without their scholarship or elegibility to attend math or science class being in jeopardy.

So really, the NCAA should feeding us this line of crap. The bottom line is that the NCAA allows kids to attend college to play football and keeps churning them out from major academic instutions and they don’t care that some of them are borderline illiterate and unprepared to fuction in society. While this is going on they milk them for all they are worth. Then they act all high and mighty when a kid that is having millions made off of him want’s a piece of it, when they know damn right the kid is one ACL tear away from his life basically being over.

]]>By: mikejonesforumhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746213
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:46:59 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746213GIG’EM NCAA
]]>By: jchuberhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746212
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:46:48 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746212What a bunch of hippocartic BS! The school can make money off of Johnny’s name, but the player can’t !!!!!!! Obviously the intent is to keep the player poor, dumb and desperate. As usual the thieves are making the rules, and the inmates are running the asylum.
]]>By: donth8thehornshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746211
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:45:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746211@methparrothead

Is that your confidence builder for the day? Catching a posters typo? With computers and devices that auto correct and often improperly , I don’t think he did a spell check for the idiots on this site! And you my friend, prove my point to a T!
Thanks,

]]>By: popdawg99http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/08/27/report-ncaa-grills-manziel-on-autographs/#comment-2746208
Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:44:45 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2205514#comment-2746208“a kid who may not have the resources or the ability to send out cease-and-desist letters or file lawsuits”

What? He could have made on phone call to the Texas A&M Sports Information Dept. and they would have given him every single resource he needed to comply with any NCAA regulation.