Saturday, May 27, 2006

George Liquor Stories - John and Katie presentations

The other day we had to go pitch our ideas for web cartoons so Katie and I spent a day drawing these full color presentation boards from some of the cartoon ideas I told you about earlier.As you all know, in my cartoons you can tell the different styles that each cartoonist has, because I encourage creativity. Katie and I have similar styles of course, but she has the feminine version and I have the manly one.I wonder if you can tell which drawings she did and which I did.Hopefuly your eyes haven't been blunted by watching too many of those godawful "on-model" stick-figure shows.BTW, here's a link to the stories so you can see that it might be possible to have eye pleasing art and funny stories at the same time-a radical concept, right?http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2006/04/george-liquor-stories-3-fast-food-lust.htmlhttp://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2006/04/george-liquor-stories-4-heaven-and.htmlHow are your eyes doing? Are they waking up somewhat?How would you like to see this kind of stuff on your media boxes of every kind?I have a concept for those folks who think that ugly drawings must automatically be accompanied by good writing-or how did it get on TV?: I think then for your tastes, you should only have sex with ugly girls who can only make 3 expresssions, because pretty ones will distract from the pleasure happening in your rude parts.

Then you can boast to your friends with the pants falling off that she's ugly on purpose and just the right kind of ugly to put across the mess.So have you figured out which drawings were done by Katie and which by me?

It looks like you did all the Weekend Pussy Hunt drawings, and a couple of the George Liquor drawings. Your lines tend to be thicker, while Katies knees (or maybe its the legs) and fingers are way more effeminate.

Yeah that's easy, you did the drawings of the sweaty little pussy cats, and she did the girl slumber party ones with George Liquor...I still love watching those old Ren and Stimpy cartoons to check out some of Bob Camp's wacky drawing style as well. Great stuff!

I love these drawings. I like the stlye of colouring, and I like how they're not too slick or ultra professional and perfect. The shading and colour variations are sick! I wanna see a full cartoon animated like this, eahc frame in the style of these boards.

In other news, I got my Preston Blair book in the mail and I'll post my lessons soon!

GOOOOOOOOOOOOREGOUS DRAWINGS. The coloring is amazing, and amazingly colorful. Some of the best coloring I've seen from you guys since the pics I've seen of WPH! The drawings are wacky and expressive, I love it! Also John, have you ever heard of the studip A.K.A. Cartoons? Their show: Ed, Edd, and eddy, has some of the strangest drawings and expressions I've ever seen period. You oughta check them out.

Ok John, we get the point: all the cartoons we watch suck, yo can quit beating the dead horse =P

The drawings are stunning, especially the use of colour which really brings them to life. I'm gonna guess and say the first 5 are John's, and the last 5 are Katies, although that 2nd from last might be John's too. I'm no expert however XD

Those are great...in my humble opinion, I think Sody would be sexier if she were more voluptuous than boney and almost anorexic. The Bad Catholic Girls are much more alluring to me. When are they going to be in a cartoon?

But anyway, I most certainly hope these get made. I wish I lived in California....

"Those are great...in my humble opinion, I think Sody would be sexier if she were more voluptuous than boney and almost anorexic."

I like Sody Pop the way she is because it's more realistic. Back home, it's either the petite or the fat kind; no voluptuousness anywhere. Katie's drawings of Sody Pop is very good. The 3rd drawing of Sody is my favorite because those ribs are showing. *playing the xylophone on them* :) To whom are you and Katie pitching these ideas, John?

Hey John, could you go in depth on how you pitch an idea to a studio big wig.. starting from how you get the opportunity to pitch until the meeting..<<

Sure. Start drawing when you are 3 years old and study from the great cartoons. Be born with natural story telling ability while you are at it and practice acting out stories in your local boy scout troop and on stage in school productions. It will help to learn to play a musical instrument.

Then get a job as a cleanup artist when you grow up. Spend about 6-10 years working for other artists who know what they are doing and support them fully. Try to work in as many departments as you can so you know how they all fit together to make a final film.

Then try to direct on an existing show so you can get experience actually making cartoons.

Once you are successful at that, you will have a bit of a name for yourself.

Then sell a show and make it a big hit. After that anyone will take a pitch from you-although they won't always buy a show, even when they laugh at the pitch.

I will buy whatever products it takes to make sure that this show has enough advertisements and/or commercials to be a success: Dung Beetle perfume? Sold. Viking repellant? I'll take a carton. American Idol records? Done and done.

It's me Jesse. The 2 Dirty Pussies are Hilarious. Bugs Pussy looks like a cross between Stimpy and Fred Flinstone. I know for sure that you did the drawing of cigarettes with the gun saying "You dirty little pervert!" right? Did you get the idea of those cats from Bob Clampett's classic "Gruesome Twosome"? Because I know thats how you came up with Stimpy. Katies drawings are really cool looking too. I had no idea that Eddie Fitzgerald did the voice of Cigarettes The Cat in the Weekend Pussy Hunt cartoons. I still wish I could be in Santa Monica tommorow. But I live in Baltimore MD.

your pal,

Jesse Oliver

P.S. Heres a good question for ya. Who do you think makes the best house pets for George Liquor? Ren & Stimpy or Cigarettes The Cat & Bugs Pussy?

Well, I'm all grown-up, sort of. I've been watching old Merrie Melodies and Looney Tunes since I was four. I've been drawing since I was four, and still kickin'. How do you get a job as a cleanup artist? I want one.

I have a concept for those folks who think that ugly drawings must automatically be accompanied by good writing-or how did it get on TV?: I think then for your tastes, you should only have sex with ugly girls who can only make 3 expresssions, because pretty ones will distract from the pleasure happening in your rude parts.

A better analogy would be: Watching a poorly animated show with supposedly good writing is like having sex with an inflatable doll sporting a Janet Reno mask.

Oh, and akira, sycophant: A servile self-seeker who attempts to win favour by flattering influential people.

yeah i agree, maybe if the nickelodeon censors hadn't been there to begin with we wouldn't even have the classic old ren and stimpys. I'm not in favour of censorship but i'm also not at all interested in animated american pie humour.

My problem with these ideas is that they seem a little too short. I think the first one is a nice set-up and all these drawings look very good, but it doesn't seem to have a lot of jokes in it. And the second one relies too much in sex jokes for me and it's not so interesting (cartoon cats looking at a sexy girl while she's unaware of it is more original).

Also, I find that John K's recent work relies too much on this kind of jokes. If you finally do a Goddamn George Liquor Program, all the episodes are going to be like that? Other ideas you pitched before also had a good amount of sex jokes. I read the comic books and I loved stories like that one of George Liquor fishing or Jimmy trying to get his quarter back, or Remote-Control Jimmy. Yeah, there were some sex jokes here and there, but they were little details and a little more subtle. I think they were more subtle and they work fine. I would like to see more of those. Also the characters seemed to have more personality, in these stories they seem more of a vehicle for the "dirty" stuff.

And Ren and Stimpy APC had arguably all kinds of stories about different themes, but it seemed to be very on your face in every episode. While I don't mind that every now and then I think sometimes it could have had a different tone. Probably Altruists was a little different, I haven't had the chance to see that one.

I would still watch Spumco cartoons, no matter why, cause they look so incredibly great and the animation is the best you can get nowadays, but I'd like some subtlety and variation sometimes.

I admit my english is not very good, so I'd probably have skipped something in the earlier stories you pitched. I would read them again. It was just my humble piece of advice, I loved these characters in the comic books and I would like to see them animated in a great show.

my point is if you're going to try to show off your immense vocablulary while insulting others, you should either spell the word right or look like a fucking asshole...

i don't believe it was a "typo"... in the english language changing two letters in a word make it a different word. the root: "synch" actually means something that has nothing to do with the word: "sycophant"

so go do some back stretches and maybe one day you'll be able to suck your own anonymous dicks/pussies.

I have a concept for those folks who think that ugly drawings must automatically be accompanied by good writing-or how did it get on TV?: I think then for your tastes, you should only have sex with ugly girls who can only make 3 expresssions, because pretty ones will distract from the pleasure happening in your rude parts.

Then you can boast to your friends with the pants falling off that she's ugly on purpose and just the right kind of ugly to put across the mess.

My response,What does sex have to do with it? How many sex based comedy programs do you enjoy Mr Kricfalusi? I'm struggling to think of any, most are embarrasingly contrived. And what's all this nonsence about the early cartoons getting away with it because they did it cleverly? True, that was brilliant but what's funny about drawings of girls bent over with their tits out. A juvenile chuckle at teh most. Hardly in the same realm as the royal kilted yaksmen.

>>How many sex based comedy programs do you enjoy Mr Kricfalusi? I'm struggling to think of any, most are embarrasingly contrived.

I can't think of any funny sex based TV shows but I can think of plenty of great cartoonists who draw incredibly graphic, bordering on pornographic sex scenes to hillarious effect. I'm thinking of folks like R Crumb, S Clay Wilson, Peter Bagge and Johnny Ryan.

ren and stimpy is a great cartoon. you are a talented artist. but nearly every new idea presented is about titties. Why? im not in favor of censorship, but neither am i in favor of animated spanking material.

>but nearly every new idea >presented is about titties. Why? >im not in favor of censorship, >but neither am i in favor of >animated spanking material.

I heard that back in the 80's, John K was pinned down by a monsterous set of ta tas in a terrible stripclub accident during sum earthquake. It took 3 firemen 5 hours and 100 dollars to get him out from under those man-crushing nay nays! Ever since, John K has had "tits on the brain" because of the terrible trauma.

Seriously, what's wrong with cartoon girls having prettyboobies? Drawning ladies with all dem pretty curves and bulges is something that goes way back to the time of our cavemen relatives. See, that's what makes real men exicted...drawing boobies and stampeding elk herds!

John's art and animation is just carrying on that tradition. He plays to our inner caveman that lusts for senseless stooge-violence and soft shapely chest ornaments.

John K draws what he likes, and he doesn't care what everyone wants to see. John has proven he can be funny working clean on Nickelodeon, or naughty on Spike. That's cuz he's, what I like to refer to as, talented. He's great at telling stories with funny motions and interesting pictures.

Let's see South Park do an episode that doesn't rely on a media story or someone eating shit. Let's see if they can be interesting without stepping on some toes or talking about sex as loosely as they would in a porno flick.

If you got the impression that the next crop of John K's toons are going to be for wanking, then I feel sorry for you. Acouple of nipples and a butt shot doesn't make a porno. Maybe some guy will find his stuff "wank worthy", but then again I've had friends that could rub-one-out watching Saturday morning cartoons back in the day. If a woman character had a shapely body and very feminine demeanor,then it was "monkey time" in allot of young men's houses!

So to conclude, I'd just like to say that after viewing any of John K's sexy toony-girls, I feel compelled to take my mighty erection, trip an elk with it, then choke it til it passes out...UFC STYLE!!!!

Hey, John K! Thanks for the years of manly cartoons. Greetings from SoCal!

Your persistent pissing about other people's cartoons eating up valuable pop-culture/teevee-air/sponsorship continues to be boring. As to your argument, what about pretty looking cartoons that are a huge disappointment (viz. ripping friends, adult party R+S)? Shut up and start making us laugh you sissy lala. They cut corners over at VentureBros. and are able to produce a watchable product for little money, Why cant you folks do the same? Get Up. Move Faster.

I'd love to see a JohnK drawing of Phil Hendries characters. Ever heard of him? Somep people dont' like him due to his views but his characters are a great fit for Spumco style cartoons. I am telling you hook it up JohnK or something like it. www.philhendrie.com. He has done toons and is doing something now but it needs spumco to get going.

Beautiful drawings. I knew which were yours and which were Katie's right away. Here is a relatively naive question: How big are these drawings? They look pretty big to me, like 9X12 or so. Am I right? I am preparing a pitch package (I've done this before at Disney, but never out in the real world) and don't really know how big the presentation artwork should be. I know, newbie question,eh? I've been in this biz 13 years and I don't know how big the artwork should be. If you could answer, I'd appreciate it.BTW, love the new DVD. Naked beach party is my fave. Thanks!