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Monday, October 16, 2006

How Tradition-Hating Bishops Will Get Around The Motu ProprioDon't say I didn't warn you

As we all are well aware, the rumors concerning the freeing of the Traditional Latin Mass are flying around faster that settlement checks from the various members of the USCCB.

If and when said motu proprio is ever made public, count on a fight the likes none of us have ever seen before.

Face it, many of the members of the USCCB are professional Modernists at worst.... uber-liberal Anglicans at best. As far as they're concerned, there simply was no Catholic Church before 1962. How sad that they fail to realize that the Second Vatican Council was simply a council, and not the council that they so desperately want it to be.

Didn't you get the memo? 33 to 1962 are more correctly known as "The Lost Years". They despise the very Church that made them bishops.

But anyhow, back to my main point. I'd be willing to bet that if and when a universal indult is granted, and supposedly "any priest can celebrate the TLM without permission from his bishop" is the meat and potatoes of the deal, there will be some sort of provision that will give any given bishop some type of loop-hole to suppress the Tridentine Mass.

It may be as innocent as a bishop saying something along the lines of "I will grant permission to participate in the universal indult as long as the individual priests can display to my satisfaction a correct understanding of the rubrics of the Mass of Pius V and a proficiency in Latin."

And of course, the bishop will pepper his pronouncement with flowery language about how he "desires to protect the integrity and dignity of the Traditional Latin Mass", etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.

And no one will ever meet the bishop's satisfaction. Ever. Even Pope St. Pius V would fail.

Now the Traddies may get a bone thrown to them every now and then, but for the most part, this is going to be nothing more than 1988's Ecclesia Dei, Part II. Mark my words.

6 Comments:

Why do I fear you are right? Probably because you are. When I start reading the way things are nuanced, I suspect that, as you said, loopholes will be left - as seems to be the case with most modern Church documents - and the liberals will blow them wide open. The effect may be no more than if the Pope said "I like the TLM". I pray we are wrong. I pray the motu proprio is the nuclear option on all the horrors since VII!

Even then, the few bishops who do remember that the church has a tradition who allow it, once people use the real mass, they'll never want to go back. Then you'll see a civil war. The pseudo-cath roman protestants wont leave. They'll take you down with them. You'll have effectively two churches claiming to be the real one.

This Orthodox Christian hopes you prevail. I'm like the Irish guy in the movie "Braveheart."

If the Holy Father doesn't start exerting some of the authority inherent in his office and put limits on this idea of "collegiality" the successors of Judas Iscariot continue to abuse to advance their cause, what you predict will come to pass.

And even if there are no real "loopholes," as in your example, priests are still bound to be obedient to their their bishop or their superiors, and the TLM-haters will simply use their authority to transfer TLM priests to remote, poor parishes, or assign them -- like Brown of Orange or the Judas of St. Paul -- to hospital chaplaincies, or other types of "punishement."

Nevertheless, they can only slow down the rebuilding of the Church. As they die off, TLM vocations increase, and more people are exposed to the Mass they never had a chance to experience, the TLM will return.

I went to FSSP church in Chaput's diocese - and even that was sometimes full of controversy! And we had his full support, he attended once in a while for confirmations, etc.I think the bishops are afraid of us "Traddies", because we tend to be well catechized (after all, you really have to try to attend Latin Mass), have lots of kids so we'll outnumber the modernists soon, and generally stand up to the them (and usually have a canonical leg to stand on when we do).Our parish started off in a school room - within 5 years we had 3 Sunday Masses, with a High Mass every week that was standing room only, and 2 full time priests. Our church was not a tiny chapel, either, but a converted Episcopal church.Now they've opened another one in a nearby town for the "overflow".

"Didn't you get the memo? 33 to 1962 are more correctly known as "The Lost Years"."----LMAO Caveman!

You are spot-on. I too am holding out for November, but, after 40+ years of absolute BS from those bastards, I know that everyone of them, to include my own "fag-friendly/TLM fearing" bishop, Roman-Protestant Bishop Jerry Kicanas, will do all in their power to halt any TLM movement within the ranks.

But we must continue, until death, to fight these men (and women) for Holy Mother Church. Her hope lies in the TLM and a Pope (this one?) who will finally use the Keys to hammer these folks!

Loopholes? We don't need no stinkin' loopholes! Look at it this way, my fellow cave dwellers: They can make life hard for those priests who say the TLM. Thats good penance. If they relegate 'em to the boonies, we'll follow. And take our kids. And foster vocations. And grow. Let them give it their best shot. We pray the Rosary, they don't. We got all the ammo.