England - Champions Trophy

Shah in for Vaughan is fair enough. I assume that White must be injured - Corky's a fair swap - but...

Rikki Clarke Yeah, I wonder if he would be playing if he was a Durham player?

Clarke's bowling is not up to it yet, and he's not a specialist batsman. ACADEMY? Hello... what else is it there for?.

Let's run through the choices... Jamie Troughton, who's actually a batsman? Kyle Hogg, who can bowl? Darren Maddy, Who has performed very effectively in both disciplines this year? Bilal Shafayat or Kadeer Ali, who had taken apart the Indians in the summer?

No. Wrong Counties. This is past a joke.

Note - could someone else write this up as an article as I don't think that I'll be able to avoid shedloads of vitriole. Cheers...

Shah in for Vaughan is fair enough. I assume that White must be injured - Corky's a fair swap - but...

Rikki Clarke Yeah, I wonder if he would be playing if he was a Durham player?

Clarke's bowling is not up to it yet, and he's not a specialist batsman. ACADEMY? Hello... what else is it there for?.

Rikki Clarke Averages 52, not a Batsman is he

Let's run through the choices... Jamie Troughton, who's actually a batsman? Kyle Hogg, who can bowl? Darren Maddy, Who has performed very effectively in both disciplines this year? Bilal Shafayat or Kadeer Ali, who had taken apart the Indians in the summer?

[i]Troughton should be considered, kyle hogg has done nothing for Lancs, Kadeer Ali has not appered for Worcestershire this season Shafatyat lacks something

No. Wrong Counties. This is past a joke.

Note - could someone else write this up as an article as I don't think that I'll be able to avoid shedloads of vitriole. Cheers...

If they were looking for a batsman who bowls a little, Adam Hollioake is a better bet for sure, but what about Bell, Wagh or Troughton, all as capable as Clarke with the ball, and better batsmen. Then there's Solanki, Butcher, Ealham, McGrath or, although he won't play Internationals again, Croft?

Oh, and as for suggesting Hick and Smith, I don't think so.

And, what does Shafayat lack. He may be a bit raw, but looks very exciting to me.

marc71178 - President and founding member of AAAS - we don't only appreciate when he does well, but also when he's not quite so good!

30 is too old to start playing Internatioal Cricket, especially when you look at the current ages of the England middle order - young blood is needed in there, not another good county player who will never have a career at the highest level.

Who was the last Englishman to make an International debut aged over 30?

There's no way you'd push for Smith for England if he played for any other county.