Art Vandelay wrote:The animal rights movement is basically where it's at today because of PETA. It's never going to reach the point where everyone becomes vegan, but the backlash to fur, factory farms, and other animal abuses that don't involve eating them can be traced almost directly to PETA.

Also, I think PETA's number one priority, regardless of what they may claim, is to promote PETA, and at that, they are very good.

All of which could have been accomplished with an intelligent, well-thought-out campaign aimed at educating people about these abuses rather than shock and scare tactics, assault or bizarre publicity stunts.

I don't know. I mean, it's not as if PETA doesn't have that as well...there's a lot of information out there from PETA that isn't the ridiculous stuff like comparing chickens to Holocaust victims, but it's the shock and scare tactics--as well as the overboard ridiculous stuff like this breast milk request and the Super Bowl ad--that get attention. There's a reason that this, the Super Bowl ad, the ads they put out after the guy was decapitated on the bus in Canada, et al are discussed here and elsewhere, but the less ridiculous stuff isn't. The intelligent, well-thought-out, educational campaigns don't garner the same attention as the shock tactics.

It would be one thing if the shock and awe was just a hook but that's not the way it works. And it has long been at a point where the PETA label corrupts any message it's attached to because you immediately associate it with crazy.

Maine has a good swing for a pitcher but on anything that moves, he has no chance. And if it's a fastball, it has to be up in the zone. Basically, the pitcher has to hit his bat. - Mike Pelfrey

Amazinz wrote:It would be one thing if the shock and awe was just a hook but that's not the way it works. And it has long been at a point where the PETA label corrupts any message it's attached to because you immediately associate it with crazy.

Amazinz wrote:It would be one thing if the shock and awe was just a hook but that's not the way it works. And it has long been at a point where the PETA label corrupts any message it's attached to because you immediately associate it with crazy.

Amazinz wrote:It would be one thing if the shock and awe was just a hook but that's not the way it works. And it has long been at a point where the PETA label corrupts any message it's attached to because you immediately associate it with crazy.

MOD EDIT: Completely unnecessary

bait much?

It's true though.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin

ACS was banned from GT for less. This kind of deliberate instigation is unbelieveable. And to continue on as if it's funny - Yoda, you're amazing. You claim to be this open-minded person, but you're more a hypocrite than the people you denounce.

Art Vandelay wrote:The animal rights movement is basically where it's at today because of PETA. It's never going to reach the point where everyone becomes vegan, but the backlash to fur, factory farms, and other animal abuses that don't involve eating them can be traced almost directly to PETA.

Also, I think PETA's number one priority, regardless of what they may claim, is to promote PETA, and at that, they are very good.

All of which could have been accomplished with an intelligent, well-thought-out campaign aimed at educating people about these abuses rather than shock and scare tactics, assault or bizarre publicity stunts.

I don't know. I mean, it's not as if PETA doesn't have that as well...there's a lot of information out there from PETA that isn't the ridiculous stuff like comparing chickens to Holocaust victims, but it's the shock and scare tactics--as well as the overboard ridiculous stuff like this breast milk request and the Super Bowl ad--that get attention. There's a reason that this, the Super Bowl ad, the ads they put out after the guy was decapitated on the bus in Canada, et al are discussed here and elsewhere, but the less ridiculous stuff isn't. The intelligent, well-thought-out, educational campaigns don't garner the same attention as the shock tactics.

The Super Bowl ad was awesome, and not just because I'm a straight male. It was over the top and not quite educational, but it wasn't offensive (chicken Holocaust), insane (breast milk ice cream), or assault (red paint). When it's repeated 5,000 times, though, it becomes attention whoring and not just attention getting.

Rocinante2: you knowRocinante2: its easy to dismiss the orioles as a bad teamofanrex: go onRocinante2: i'm doneRocinante2: lmao