Hi all, This is my 2nd year playing in leagues, before that I only played a few times a year for fun. My average went up from 142 early last year to 155 by year end, and this year it's been fluctuating between 172 and 175. I would consider myself a mid-rev roller, I usually shoot either from center aimed between 2nd and 3rd arrow, or line up on the second arrow, throw at it and have it hook, depending on oil conditions (synthetic, usually with lots of oil in the center. I think some of you refer to that as "fenced").

Some of the better players at the local alley have told me that the wrist support keeps me from getting more revs, and I would be better off without it. I tried before to bend the support more, but it is really uncomfortable to have the support hold your wrist more at than 45 degrees.

Any advice to how I should approach practice during the holidays to see if my game could improve without the support?

Thanks.

-- Bear Foot

19 Dec 2003 15:12:58

KMitch200

Re: considering dumping the wrist support

>From: "Bear Foot" <snip > >Some of the better players at the local alley have told me that the wrist >support keeps me from getting more revs, and I would be better off without >it. I tried before to bend the support more, but it is really uncomfortable >to have the support hold your wrist more at than 45 degrees. > >Any advice to how I should approach practice during the holidays to see if >my game could improve without the support? >

Just guessing and going out on a limb here but maybe throw the ball without wearing the wrist brace.

----------------- Kelly Mitchell in Phx, AZ

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19 Dec 2003 16:54:14

Bear Foot

Re: considering dumping the wrist support

"KMitch200" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected] > >From: "Bear Foot" > <snip> > >Some of the better players at the local alley have told me that the wrist > >support keeps me from getting more revs, and I would be better off without > >it. I tried before to bend the support more, but it is really uncomfortable > >to have the support hold your wrist more at than 45 degrees. > > > >Any advice to how I should approach practice during the holidays to see if > >my game could improve without the support? > > > > Just guessing and going out on a limb here but maybe throw the ball without > wearing the wrist brace. > > ----------------- Ok, I disserved that... I'll rephrase - For those who went from wearing a wrist support to dropping it, how did it affect their game (did it improve or not), and did that lead to a major style change.

19 Dec 2003 19:05:50

Dave Kent

Re: considering dumping the wrist support

I have a couple different wrist guards in the bag that I usually do not use in competition. I will use one or the other in practice to "train" myself proper positioning from time to time. I find them too limiting. If I have a wrist ailment or I am in a slump that I think is related to wrist position, I will use it in competition. Typically only after a layoff for a few (or even one) session. There is also a good article on increasing revs in this months "Bowling This Month."

I'd just try tossing a few shots without the guard to see how it feels. Some folks do not have a strong enough wrist to properly support the ball throughout the approach. If you feel that not using it will cause injury, then continue to use it. You may have to find exercises to do away from the lanes to increase your wrist strength.

PS - even when I am using the guard, I will remove it to pick the 10 pin. These devices are designed to keep your wrist from breaking back, something I like to do for 10 pin spares.

BTW - You must have trouble finding shoes that fit properly. <G >

Bear Foot wrote:

> "KMitch200" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] > > >From: "Bear Foot" > > <snip> > > >Some of the better players at the local alley have told me that the wrist > > >support keeps me from getting more revs, and I would be better off > without > > >it. I tried before to bend the support more, but it is really > uncomfortable > > >to have the support hold your wrist more at than 45 degrees. > > > > > >Any advice to how I should approach practice during the holidays to see > if > > >my game could improve without the support? > > > > > > > Just guessing and going out on a limb here but maybe throw the ball > without > > wearing the wrist brace. > > > > ----------------- > Ok, I disserved that... > I'll rephrase - For those who went from wearing a wrist support to dropping > it, how did it affect their game (did it improve or not), and did that lead > to a major style change.

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19 Dec 2003 19:15:30

Larry T

Re: considering dumping the wrist support

I went from a wrist brace to none. Orginally trying like the devil to get a decent hook and noticed my wrist was "breaking" (bending back). The real problem was I held the ball to tight and approach way to fast (19+) average was never able to get past 160 and I had a lot of inconsistancy (very few all marks games). Slowed a bit, concentrated on lift at the release and changed my start position form ball at waist high to ball down near the knees. I also got rid of the brace, wow-the ball started to hook. Recently I pulled a calf muscle so it really slowed me down again. I was not able to "charge" the line so I started my standard 4-step up a couple of feet from before, went up to the target again much slower, I did not bend down as much (which automatically gives loft) and low a behold a much more contollable swing with good power and hook (the ball is a pretty big sweeper now) with good punch and carry. I have moved over from the center board to 7-8 boards left of center, through out to the 4-6 board depending on oil and get a very nice arc with good roll into the pocket. The speed of course is down to the 15 mph range which obviously gives the ball more time to track. (I'm using a track Voodoo, similar to ebonite V2). Average is moving up through the 170s to what I believe I can maintain 180 range. Speed is the key. Key to controll (games more consistant, more pocket hits), and key to good carry. I just didn't need the wrist support. At the controlled speed and delivery, the wrist did just fine. Hope this is of help.

> >"KMitch200" <[email protected]> wrote in message >news:[email protected] >> >From: "Bear Foot" >> <snip> >> >Some of the better players at the local alley have told me that the wrist >> >support keeps me from getting more revs, and I would be better off >without >> >it. I tried before to bend the support more, but it is really >uncomfortable >> >to have the support hold your wrist more at than 45 degrees. >> > >> >Any advice to how I should approach practice during the holidays to see >if >> >my game could improve without the support? >> > >> >> Just guessing and going out on a limb here but maybe throw the ball >without >> wearing the wrist brace. >> >> ----------------- >Ok, I disserved that... >I'll rephrase - For those who went from wearing a wrist support to dropping >it, how did it affect their game (did it improve or not), and did that lead >to a major style change. >