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noguru

Posted 09 December 2009 - 04:49 AM

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I'm still using Sumatra PDF 1.6 on Win98. It's functional but the "open" menu doesn't work, the only way to open files is by double clicking them, so you have to make it your default reader. The good thing is that it is very light, renders good and fast and is much more stable than that horrible GDI crunching Foxit.
Later versions don't have a menu at all on Win98.

RetroOS

Posted 11 December 2009 - 02:53 PM

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There has been plenty of recent discussion regarding how to install Adobe Flash Player 10 using KernelEx (some interesting methods!).However, the very simple install procedure has already been outlined by Xeno86.

Thunderbird 3 Release Candidate 1 work well on W98SE with KernelEX ...

Now working on Windows 98SE:...* Thunderbird 3.0 beta...

Well, the prerelease versions of Thunderbird 3.0 may have worked, but the final release does not work for me...When it runs, all the graphics and text are messed up - mainly just blocks of colour...

Thunderbird 3 official release working with Win 98 FE!

I had to set KernalEx compatibility to Windows 2000 SP4 on Thunderbird.exe to get the window to display properly.

Yes, I can confirm this too on Windows 98SE.The installer needs to be set to Windows 2000 SP4 compatibility, and then thunderbird.exe before the first run.

However, Thunderbird 3.0 has the same printing failure as Firefox 3.x.x.From what I understand, older Linux kernel versions also have printing failure with Firefox 3.x.x (and therefore Thunderbird 3.0).This makes sense because newer printing functionality is used that does not exist in older OSes.

Posted 14 December 2009 - 01:28 PM

LVN_GETDISPINFO is sent by a list-view control to its parent window, message is sent when list-view control has style LVS_OWNERDATA. Unicode app expects notification LVN_GETDISPINFOW but list-view control sends LVN_GETDISPINFOA, so list-view ends up without any strings.

TTN_GETDISPINFO is not that important, but those two messages are very similar so if you manage to implement one it should not be too hard to implement other one as well.

x64igor

Posted 14 December 2009 - 04:27 PM

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I didn't know about CCM_SETUNICODEFORMAT and WM_NOTIFYFORMAT, thanks for information (btw. MSDN says from IE5.0).

But, could it be possible that KernelEx automatically uses one of those two methods for unicode apps?
For example, app is unicode (made for NT family of windows) and uses unicode data in WM_NOTIFY, but author didn't know about existence of KernelEx and possibility that his app will be used on Win98 so he didn't implement CCM_SETUNICODEFORMAT or WM_NOTIFYFORMAT.

PierreLeGnome

Posted 14 December 2009 - 06:21 PM

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Well - I don't know what I could be doing wrong, but I still can't get Flash 10 installed.
I ran the xp.reg and tried the installer (Plugin) 10.0.42.34 linked to above, with compatibility set to first Win2K then WinXP, but both types of attempt fail partway through with the message that I am trying to install on an unsupported operating system. Any suggestions?

Tihiy

Posted 15 December 2009 - 01:41 AM

But, could it be possible that KernelEx automatically uses one of those two methods for unicode apps?

It automatically sends "enable unicode" messages on dialog creation and window query which should cover most apps. Newer (SVN) version has completely overhauled unicode window layer which should cover all unicode windows.

RodgerOver

Posted 16 December 2009 - 11:18 AM

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Hi Pierre Le Gnome,

I also have WIN 98 SE installed, but I have nothing in the registry under WindowsNT. There must be two WIN98 versions.I needed to change the following registry entries: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Version (=> replace Windows 98 by Windows NT)andHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\VersionNumber (==> replace 4.10.2222 by 5.20)Don't forget to change back afterwards (note the initial entries), otherwise you will have problems when installing other software !!!

PierreLeGnome

Posted 18 December 2009 - 11:51 AM

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I needed to change the following registry entries: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Version (=> replace Windows 98 by Windows NT)andHKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\VersionNumber (==> replace 4.10.2222 by 5.20)Don't forget to change back afterwards (note the initial entries), otherwise you will have problems when installing other software !!!

Thanks, having made the registry changes you specified, I now have Flash10 installed, which is great. This restores an ability to download my phone call logs which had stopped working several months ago

siria

Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:36 AM

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Sorry haven't read all here lately, hoping not too talk to much nonsense now... Just to throw in two little notes: SumatraPDF 101 works fine on my win98se, even without enabling kernelex for it... And someone told me his flash10 started working when he switched his monitor to 32bit colors. It certainly isn't that easy, but perhaps the last missing puzzle part for someone, no idea ;-)

CharlesF

Posted 22 December 2009 - 06:14 PM

When I open a Jpg picture in it browser or windowed view, I can rotate it from: 'Edit' -> 'Rotate (right or left)',but it is impossible to do it from the arrows in the tools bar!I get a crash with an error message: <UNKNOWN> caused an invalid page fault in module <unknown>.(see attached file).

With gif, png or bmp, there is no glitch at all!BTW, the image is not read-only.

Last version of FSIV is 4.0, but I get the same thing with the previous one 3.9.

Because I use this soft a lot, I reinstall Windows and have checked step-by-step from where come the bug.It appears only after the install of last KernelEx.

RetroOS

Posted 23 December 2009 - 08:42 PM

If FastStone Image Viewer does not need KernelEx, then go to Properties (right-click) on the shortcut or directly from the executable (browse), and select the Compatibility tab.Then tick the check box for Disable KernelEx extensions for this program.OK out and test again.

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Philco

Posted 24 December 2009 - 09:21 AM

If FastStone Image Viewer does not need KernelEx, then go to Properties (right-click) on the shortcut or directly from the executable (browse), and select the Compatibility tab.Then tick the check box for Disable KernelEx extensions for this program.OK out and test again.

i try portable FastStone and with (or without) KernelEx same problem....

mikefitzvw

Posted 26 December 2009 - 12:56 PM

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Hey is anyone having trouble with images and toolbar rendering in Firefox 3.5 with KernelEX installed? Firefox doesn't want to display images (I am sure images are enabled and set to display) and often parts of the toolbar (the refresh button, the home button, the little logo to the left of the URL, the back/fwd buttons, or the thin gray area separating the tabs from the bar above them) turn a smoke/dark gray color. Everything else works fine. I cannot see the picture for Google on its main page, google images displays nothing, facebook shows no pictures, and I couldn't find the "Add Reply" button on this site (after 10 minutes, I used Opera to show me where it was so I could move my mouse until the hand showed up.

This started happening a few months ago after an update, and the most recent one (3.5.6) didn't change anything. I did try a clean install a month ago with no luck. Experience with IE showed me images don't display if there is insufficient memory or a slow connection (very annoying, because it IE liked to just "give up" after awhile) but I have 640MB ram and ethernet. This puzzles me. Any ideas?

Posted 27 December 2009 - 01:33 PM

Steven W

Posted 02 January 2010 - 07:46 AM

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Sorry haven't read all here lately, hoping not too talk to much nonsense now... Just to throw in two little notes: SumatraPDF 101 works fine on my win98se, even without enabling kernelex for it... And someone told me his flash10 started working when he switched his monitor to 32bit colors. It certainly isn't that easy, but perhaps the last missing puzzle part for someone, no idea ;-)

I'm glad to hear that Sumatra works...natively!? (that's kind of a surprise)

You may be on to something with the color bits. My old PC that I gave to a friend has a video adapter that is only capable of 24 bit color. VLC (latest) with KernelEx wouldn't play videos until I switched it to 16 bit. I also have never had any success with Flash 10.

glocK_94

Posted 06 January 2010 - 05:07 AM

First of all, thanks a lot to Xeno86 for this so stable version ! It's nice to be able to enjoy the last version of VLC and MPlayer Classic...

Just two small notes :- I couldn't find anything about it in the whole thread so, I'm sorry if this has been stated before : Zone Alarm 2.6 Pro doesn't work with KernelEx extensions activated. That's probably normal since it's tightly linked to Windows Core. -> Disabling the extensions for that program solves the problem.

- Connectix Virtual PC doesn't work anymore, even with extensions unchecked in compatibility tab (KernelEx is in paranoid mode - disabled by default). It complains it can't work in 'compatibility mode' so I guess it mistakes KernelEx for Windows XP compatibility mode. I tried bypassing this check but the executable is protected so I can't use it for now.