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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry Roeder Introduction to Edition OneIn the 1970’s my mother came up with the idea that I should explore my family,travel to the places we lived, learn how ancestors comported themselves. Thefocus was to be on American locations so that I could learn more about theUnited States and what it is to be an American, an excellent proposal since someof my family on my Scots-Irish side lived in the colonies prior to the AmericanRevolution.I decided to expand the study to include my German relatives and ancestors inGermany; and that has been fantastically rewarding. For one thing, I’ve foundwonderful German relatives and have discovered a rich, interesting history abouta quite normal Germany family. This only partly tells their story, and I do hope toadd to it in later editions Larry Winter Roeder South Riding, Va. USA 8/31/2012 2

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederThe German NamesMany of the German names associated with my family:Bauer and Hubner of Alsleben an der Salle and Neuhaus; Burkhart of Weyers/Fulda;Effert, perhaps of Kloser-Hauser), Foerst of Herschfeld, Goldbach, by marriage,Hahn of not sure, Hofmann of Bad Neustadt An Der Salle, Memmel , probably ofKloser-Hauser, Rabensdorf, (perhaps Bremen.1,Röder of Kloser-Hauser, Wurzburg,Bad Neustadt an Der Salle, Holzhausen, Hersdorf, Neustadt, Oberwerrn, St. Louis,Missouri and Fulda, Schmitt, probably of Kloser-Hauser, Winter (perhaps Hamburg)and St. Louis, Missouri, Zimmermann Perhaps Kloser-hauser, Zirklebach ofHerschfeldLetter on Bad Neustadt Family of Lorenz RoederMarch 9, 1982 Letterfrom Catholic Church, Bad Neustadt1 Im not sure of the spelling of the last name. If Ravensdorf, there are no birth or marriagerecords in the registers of Hamburg. In fact, she might not be from Hamburg. That might onlybe the port of embarkation for the United States. See letter to LWR, Jr. Oct 5, 1981 from Olcay,Senat der Freien und Hansestadt Hamburg, Staatarchiv ABC Suite 19, Eingang A, 2000Hamburg 36. 11

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederCyriak RöderCyriak was a master shoemaker who saw service in World Wars One and Two,and may have been in militia at the end of World War One or a veteran’s group.Cyriak’s father was Friedrich (Friedrid) Röder (married to Bibliana Scheuplein).Friedrich was the brother of Anton Bauer modo Röder, great grandfather of LarryWinter Roeder, Jr, the author.- - -One has the sense of a man of civic duty, simply because of the many timesCyriak served in uniform, as a teenager and in both World Wars. Photos alsoconvey the image of a happy man.I’d like to explore his potential role in the militia at end of World War One. Wehave no details on it, except for Photo 7 which hints at it, and it’s entirely possiblehe did not belong to such a group.What we do know is that Germany in 1919 was close to collapse. In late October,1918 the Navy planned one last big battle with the British fleet; but sailors inWilhelmshaven and Kiel mutinied, setting up councils similar to Russian soviets.Within days the revolution spread to the Western front and Germany’s majorcities and ports. This became known as the November Revolution. The Kaiserthen abdicated, followed by the King of Bavaria. Bavaria declared a socialistRepublic, though not in the Russian mold. Chancellor, Max von Baden, handedpower to Friedrich Ebert, the leader of the German Social Democrat Party (SDP).Due to the revolution, the Council of the Peoples Deputies (Rat derVolksbeauftragten) was then government (Nov 1918-Feb 1919).Communists were heavily involved but unlike in the Russian revolution, anaccommodation was made to blend the aristocracy into the new Germany. TheCouncil organized a ceasefire on 11 November, 1918 and the election of aNational Assembly in December. The leading political party (SPD) also refused togo the route of Russian soviets because of mistrust of the Bolsheviks. Inaddition to all of this was the risk of a full scale armed uprising, and indeed therewas the Sparticist uprising, putdown by right-wing militia or Freikorps. Then onAugust 11, 1919, the revolution ended with the establishment of the Weimar 15

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederConstitution. It was a time demanding much from the civic minded. We don’tknow if Cyriak was part of this; but would be interesting to learn.Cyriak Röder in UniformDate: 1893 Location Unknown. Title Cyriak About Age 19 in Uniform Figure 4 Cyriak Röder Age 19 16

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry Roeder Youth Uniform in Color 18

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederTwo MenDate: Unknown. Location Likely Neustadt, location of PhotographerTitle Unknown Men. Man on right is same as man in photo titled “UnknownYoung Man with Mustache.” Who is he? I used to think man on left was Cyriak;but Heidrun thinks otherwise. Perhaps a member of the Dietz family. (Novy,Discussion about Photo, 2012). The left arm of the man on the right may bewearing a arm band, the kind for a funeral. Figure 5 Uncertain Men 19

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederCyriak Röder 1915Date: 1915 Location Unknown. Title: In Uniform Standing by WallPicture Description: (Front of a postcard) The uniform is an M1915 Tunic.I was under the impression thatcross was an Iron Cross; butaccording to one sources, Cyriakwas a reservist (hence the crosson his cap in the 1915 datedphoto) (which means he wouldnot be sent to the front unless thewar went really bad) Reservistsguarded train stations, ammodumps etc. Figure 9 Cyriak in Uniform by wall 22

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederCyriak Röder and Iron Cross 1915Date: 1915 Location Unknown. Title: Closeup of Head: In Uniform Standingby Wall. (Front of a postcard) Figure 10 Closeup of Cyriaks Head in UniformCyriak may have won the Iron Cross. Is it possible he simply placed it in his hat?I did a little research and did find an example of someone else doing this onWikipedia. According to Wikipedia, “During WWI, approximately 218,000 EKIs,5,196,000 EKIIs and 13,000 non-combatant EKIIs were awarded. Exact numbersof awards are not known, since the Prussian military archives were destroyedduring World War II. “ But what about Bavarian archives?An expert I consulted didn’t feel that the Iron Cross would have been worn in thisway. His comment was “At first glance, given the date of birth in 1874, the soldier wasserving with the Landsturm or Landwere, aka Home Guard, during WW1, and serving inan active regiment in 1895-1897. He would have been 40 years old in 1914, and too oldfor active or reserve units, but of the age for the Landsturm and Landwere. 23

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederAn able bodied German owed military service from the age of 17 to 41. At age 21, aGerman would go into the active army for 2 or 3 years. Then there was a period of timefor the reserves. After the reserves was the Landsturm and Landwere, where thoseyounger than 21 and older than 30 would serve at times of great emergency, such as awar. I need to check on the details of the Landsturm and Landwere.They guarded rail road yards, prison camps and supply depot, generally in Germany,but sometimes in the rear areas in occupied Belgium, France and Russia later in thewar. They made use of obsolete rifles and uniforms, as well as captured rifles. Theyperformed important military work, and the work they performed allowed younger mento serve on the front lines. As the war went on, the ages for military service wereextended to 14 year olds, and any able bodied man of any age. At the very end, some12 year old boys had been called up.I will check some reference books tonight and see if I can get some more info for you.I did not see any rank insignia, but will check more closely tonight. The iron cross wasnever worn on the hat, only on the chest. It is possible that some of the photos werefrom the early post war period, when there was a lot of chaos, and a number ofvolunteer units of ex-soldiers and civilians did what they could to maintain order. Theex-soldier units were loosely known as friekorps. (Reiley, 2012)” 24

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederCyriak Röder 1915Date: 1915 Location: Might be Munich. Military Uniform is different from 1915Version Figure 11 Cyriak Military Uniform 25

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederCyriak Röder 1914 or 1918Date: 1914 or 1918 (not clear). Location Might be Munich Title: Closeup.Military Hat Two Figure 12 Close up of Cyriak in Uniform 26

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederCyriak Röder (Order No 043)Date: 1914 or 1918 (not clear)Location Munich, based on photographer.Title: Shows photo was of Cyriak, from NeustadtPicture Number 6c Figure 13 Army Photo Certificate 27

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederCyriak Röder With VeteransDate: (not clear)Location: Not clear. Description: Veterans or Civil Guard from World War One(Front of postcard)Cyriak was a Kriegsteilnehmer or Veteran of the First World War; butwhereas other photos showed him in real uniforms, this series showshim is less formal dress, though with a weapon.The handwriting on the back was hard to read, being in an old script;but I asked a professional, and he told it indicated this is a group ofveterans making a souvenir shot of the Civil guard. 29

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederCyriak Röder Back of Militia Post CardDate: 1914 or 1918 (not clear)Title: Group Photo of Civil Guard (Reverse of Post Card)Picture Number 7dFigure 14 Group Photo of Militia (Reverse of Post Card)An expert informed that the script said “Erinnerung an die Lohnwachezum Völkerkrieg 1914. Begin 1. August Ende Okt. 1918 Souvenir of theLohnwache {civil guard} to the war of the peoples 1914. Start 1August End Oct. 1918. The word Lohnwache isn’t used any more andcan be Vigilante Service.(Bartleby, 2012). The back of the card was written in Sütterlinschrift(German pronunciation: [ˈzʏtɐliːnˌʃʁɪft], so I had to retain aprofessional to translate. “Sütterlin script) is the last widely usedform of Kurrent, the old German blackletter handwriting. Graphicartist Ludwig Sütterlin was commissioned by the Prussian ministryfor culture to create a modern handwriting script in 1911. Hishandwriting scheme gradually replaced the older cursive scripts that 33

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry Roederhad developed in the 16th century at the same time that book lettersdeveloped into Fraktur. The word Sütterlin is nowadays often used torefer to all varieties of old German handwriting, although this specificscript was only taught in all German schools from 1935 to 1941.(Wikipedia, 2009)” 34

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederCyriak Röder Red Cross UniformDate: Unknown Location Unknown. Title: I thought at first this was an Armymedical uniform; but Heidrun corrected me. It is a Red Cross uniform. (Novy,Discussion about Photo, 2012) Figure 15 Cyriak in Red Cross Uniform 35

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederCyriak Röder and Family #1Date: Unknown Location UnknownTitle: Family PhotoDescription: My impression is that man to the far right is Cyriak; but Idon’t know who the others are. I wonder if the girl lower left is Gusti.Are the man in the background and the tall girl/woman married? Whois the heavy setwoman? The girlsall look related.The older womanappears to be thesame as in thepicture “UnknownSmiling Woman.” Figure 16 Cyriak and Family 36

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederFour GirlsDate: Unknown. Location Unknown. Description: The girls are the same asin photo marked “Cyriak Roder and Family #1.” I wonder if the girls are fromMaria’s side of the family. Could girl second from left be Gusti?. Figure 17 Who are these girls? 37

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederCyriak Röder and Family #2Date: Unknown Location UnknownTitle: Family Photo Picture Number 10aDescription: Maria and Cyriak was) with their Children Ferdinand and Gusti.Interesting that Cyriak is in uniform. The type of uniform is the M1910 tunicFigure 18 Cyriak and Family 39

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry Roeder M1910 Uniform in Color 40

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederCyriak’s Army Unit Figure 23 Cyriaks Army Unit shows up. The “IIF over 16” is probably a reservist designation; but this is uncertain as of the writing of this book. Little hard to read as well. Could be I6, not 16. 42

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederMaria’s CastleMaria was the chef at Walterhausen castle. Fortunately for me, I have a copy of hercookbook and have been given permission to copy and convert it into a moderncookbook. Figure 27 Walterhausen Castle 2010 (c) LRoeder 50

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederFigure 31 Death Notice Cyriak 56

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederFigure 32 Death Notice Cyriak 57

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederFigure 33 Death Notice Cyriak 58

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederFigure 34 Death Notice CyriakKriegsoplerversorgung 59

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederMaria, Ferdinand and Cyriak’s Sister Auguste?Date: Unknown. Location: Probably Bamberg, based on Photographer. Figure 35 Wonder if woman on left Augusta Blanina Roder, who never married. Sister of Cyriak. Master Ladys Tailor. Born August 29, 1878, Died March 1, 1939. Woman on right is Maria Burkhart, next to Ferdinand. Could be someone else. Did Maria have a sister? 60

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederBio: Son of CyriakFerdinand Röder (June 19, 1900, in Neustadt a/saale2 Died Dec 26,1987)Ferdinand Röder became a master shoemaker in 1926 and married. Imet him through his sister Gusti via mail; but at the time, he was toofrail to write.To become a master shoemaker, he took an exam and became anapprentice. After seven years he became a journeyman, took anotherexamination and became a master, which is the level required toteach an apprentice.32 Ferdinand Röder, Meister-Brief, April 26, 19263 Ferdinand Röder, Meister-Brief, April 26, 1926, Trade Examination Diploma certifyingFerdinand as a master shoemaker. 61

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederFerdinand Death Certificate Figure 36 Death Notice Ferdinand 62

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederFerdinand and Gusti in Communion ClothesDate: 1912 Description: My guess is that this is Ferdinand and Gusti in Catholic Communion clothes. Heidrun agreesFigure 37 Gusti and Ferdinand 63

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederFerdinand Röder PartyDate: UnknownLocation: UnknownTitle Group Photo. Might be of Ferdinand, Third fr LeftPicture Number 16 66

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederFerdinand at Turn-Verein PartyDate: Unknown Location Dachau Turn-Verein Party4 Figure 40 Turn-Verein Party4 This is very interesting, as my great grandfather on my father’s maternal side wasErnst George Winter, a major force in the Turn Verein in America. The sportsassociation in Dachau goes back to 1865. 67

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederUnknown Heavy Set ManLocation Bamberg, Based on PhotographerDate: UnknownDescription: Taken by same photographer as “Unknown Smiling Woman”. Is hethe husband? See also photo marked “Cyriak Röder and Family #1.” Figure 45 Unknown Heavy Set Man 72

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederUnknown Smiling WomanLocation Bamberg, Based on Photographer. Date: UnknownDescription: Taken by same photographer as “Unknown Heavy Set Man” Arethey a couple? See also photo marked “Cyriak Rodert and Family #1” Figure 46 Unknown Heavyset Woman 73

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederUnknown Young Man with MustacheLocation Bamberg, Based on Photographer. Date: UnknownDescription: See also photo titled “Two Men.” Figure 47 Unknown Man with Mustache 75

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederThree GirlsDate: 1922 Location Neustadt, based on photographerTitle: Family Photo Picture Number 27Description: I have no idea who these are. Cute photoI wonder if girl on left is the same girl as in Photo 48?Figure 49 Unknown GIrls 77

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederGirl with Teddy BearDate: Unknown. Location: Probably Frankfurt, based on Photographer.Is she one of the girls in the photo marked “Three Girl”? Wonder if bear is aStieff. Figure 56 Girl with Teddy Bear 83

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederFriedrich Röder (Bio)Friedrich (Friedrid) Röder. (married to Bibliana Scheuplein)Friedrich Röder, (July 26, 1841-1 Dec 24, 1897). Married to Bibiana Scheuplein.Occupation shoemaker. Married in Bad Neustadt Oct 12, 1873.Father was Franz Röder. Three Children: Cyriak and Auguste Blanina.Fought in War against the French in 1871. 5 Lost his right leg below the knee(wooden). His name is listed in Bad Neustadt on an obelisk monument tocombatants. This took place in 1866 as part of the Prussian-Bavarian War in abattle at Bad Kissingen, new Bad Neustadt. Friedrich’s unit was the 5th RoyalRegiment for the Grand Duke of Hesse.6 This is probably in the city cemetery.Friedrid Röder (1841-1897). Owned his own home in Neustadt at 38 Baverngasse(Farmers way) in Bad Neustadt.Brother of Anton, great grandfather of Larry Winter Roeder, Jr.5 Friedrid Röder, a photo taken in 1889/90. Notes on the back by Kurt Hofmann,written August 8, 1990; Friedrich, Röder, a Plaque commemorating soldiers whoparticipated in the war of 1870-71 from the town of Neustadt. – Two color picturestaken by Kurt Hofmann, August 26, 1990.6 Source Kurt Hofmann, interview, 1988. 86

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederMax HofmannPossible Young Man Shot of MaxLocation Schweinfurt, Based on Photographer. Date: unknown Figure 71 Max Hofmann?Heidrun believes this to be a young Max Hofmann. Brother of PaulHofmann. Born 1906 and owned a laundry. 101

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederMax Hofmann and Marga Location: Probably Schweinfurt, based on Photographer Date is Unknown. Heidrun believes this is young Max Hofmann and Marga. (Novy, Max Hofmann, 2012)Figure 72 Max Hofmann and Marga? 102

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederFrieda HofmannDate: Unknown. Location Probably Neustadt, based on photographer.Description: Girl in dark dress. No other identification. Heidrun thinks probablyFrieda Hofmann. (Novy, Discussion about Photo, 2012). Paul Hofmann’s Hissister Frieda was born in 1897 and his sister Else was born 1895-96 and died inmid-fifties. Figure 74 Frieda Hofmann? 106

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederAuguste Guste Maria RöderDate: Unknown. Location: UnknownDescription: Young Girl in Ribbon. Is this a young Gusti? Figure 76 Gusti? 108

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederAuguste Guste Maria Röder (Bio)Auguste Maria (Gusti) Röder was married to Paul Hofmann. BornJuly 4, 1901. Died April 7, 1988 in Bad Neustadt. Cause of deathdecrepitude in Bad Neustadt. Gusti died in hospital only 3 or 4 weeksafter entry.Until death, Gusti lived in Neustadt. Also married in Bad Neustadt.Father Cyriak Röder, mother Maria Burkart. Children Kurt Hofmannand Ferdinand Hofmann. Brother Ferdinand Röder. Height 56".On the occasion of her 80th birthday, the Rhon u Saalepost an, alocal newspaper in Neustadt, did a piece on her. She had been amember of the German Red Cross since 1936 and by 1949 had beenelevated to the rank of Group Leader.In 1942, Gusti won the Red Cross Medal for Service, then in 74 theGerman Red Cross Medal for Honor, in 77 the Gold Pin of Honor andHonor Commendation for forty years of service. A retired woman, hermain job has been with the Red Cross. Gusti was also described asselfless and the daughter of a well known shoe repairman. Shetransported wounded during World War Two to Neuhaus, as well asrefugees. She was also involved with a school for theunderprivileged. Gusti was known to thousands of blood donors towhom she had given the honor pin. Hospitable, appreciated. Wellknown humor. 109

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederGusti was Kurt and Ferdls mom. Her brother was Cyriak, born June 8, 1874 in BadNeustadt. 7 Auguste Blandina was not the wife, but the sister of Cyriak. She was bornAugust 29, 1876 in Bad Neustadt and died March 1, 1939 in Bad Neustadt. Cyriak wasa master shoemaker. Auguste was a master ladys tailor. He was unmarried. Mybrother Ferdinand is a master shoemaker and is married. He has no children and cantwrite any more. He sends greetings. I married Paul Hofmann, born March 3, 1900 inbad Neustadt and he died September 13, 1968. He was a cook. My sons are Kurt andFerdinand. Kurt was born April 8, 1924 in Bad Neustadt and has two daughtersHeidrun, born April 8, 1924 in Bad Neustadt and Tessa born Aug 7, 1959. Tessaworked in the area of Ansbach.Ferdinand was born on August 10, 1929 in Bad Neustadt and has three sons:Volker April 18, 1965,Ulrich, born Nov 17, 1966Gero, born July 8, 1968.Ferdinand has a degree in political economy and lives in Hamburg.Written for Gusti by Kurt Hofmann, Landsknechtstrasse 21, D8802, Oberdachstetten,Germany.Ferdinand Röder, master shoemaker. Born June 19, 1900 in Bad Neustadt, died Dec26, 1987 of decrepitude in Bad Neustadt. Father Cyriak Röder and Maria Burkart.Sister Auguste Maria Röder (Hofmann). Served in German Army, World War One.7 Letter to lwr, jr. October 1, 1982 from Gusti Rder Hofmann, Schuhmarkstr 1, D-8740 BadNeustadt/Saale, tele 09771-40-92, App 13. 124

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederPaul Hofmann, Gusti, Ferdl (Boy Scout) and KurtDate: During World War Two: Description. Gusti is in Red Cross uniform. Fedlis in Boy Scout Uniform and Kurt is on his way towards becoming a tank operatorand eventual Matt or Sergeant. Figure 97 From right, Kurt, Gusti, Ferdl and Paul. 128

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederPaul Hofmann (Bio)Paul Hofmann (1900 - 1968)Born March 6, 1900 and died Sept 13, 1968. Married in Bad Neustadt.Children with Gusti Röder were Kurt and Ferdinand Hofmann. Height was510".Paul had siblings. His brother Max (born 1906) owned a laundry. Hissister Frieda was born in 1897 and his sister Else was born 1895-96 anddied in mid-fifties.Paul Hofmann was a German soldier who trained for submarine duty inWorld War One but saw no action, as he was only 18. After service, heeither owned or leased a Bierstubba, restaurant associated with abrewery. Although it served fine food, the establishment failed by the1920’s. Paul then stayed unemployed until 1930, when he began to workfor restaurants, essentially as an unpaid apprentice. He eventually rosethrough the ranks and at the age 34-35 began to work in the great hotelsof Germany. Eventually he became a Chef and supervised several otherchefs. By 1938 he was working on the Isle of Norderney (North Sea) andin the Winter in Oberwisenthal, Erzebirge in Saxonia as well as in othertowns, but developed back troubles which put him in a hospital untilAugust, 1939.World War Two brought Paul back into military service in September, 1939as a marine in a mine sweeper in the North Sea, serving from 1939 to1945, and rising to the rank of Maat or sergeant. On May 8, 1945 he wascaptured by British troops in Kiel; however, he was let go right away andthen made his way home, which he reached by the end of May. Becausethe trains were out, he had to walk most of the way, though he was able tograb a few trains for short rides. 129

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederBy September, 1945, the entire family was reunited, all in goodhealth, with no casualties. Of course, he had to begin to earn money,so he began by helping his brother Max with his laundry business. 130

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Photo Album German Relatives of Larry RoederQuittenbaum ConnectionWhile in Hamburg in 2010, I was given a document dated 1881 by my relatives.I’m not certain as to the connection between the people on this sheet and theRoeder line; but I offer the photos for the use of future family historians.The document takes us back to Johann Quittenbaum in 1772.Figure 98 Stamp on Quittenbaum Document 131