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Join Websleuths Radio for the final discussion of THE KILLING SEASON
with Josh Zemam, Rachel Mills and special guests including Bob Kolker author of Lost Girls

SA's Polygraph

Of the 12 signs of the Zodiac, Pisces is most associated with lies, delusion and deceit. Seeing this sign on the ASCENDANT of the Polygraph chart could make a forensic Astrologer go 'Hmmmmm.'

As many of you know, Pisces is considered a double-bodied sign and is represented by two fish swimming in opposite directions. The sign is co-ruled by JUPITER (traditional ruler) and NEPTUNE (modern ruler). While JUPITER is often associated with truth and justice, NEPTUNE symbolizes lies, deceit, illusion, smoke & mirrors.

So what are we looking at here, truth or lies? Our first clue, the Rising Sign, leaves us scratching our collective heads & wondering which way is up.

As we continue our examination, the polygraph chart becomes more interesting. Pisces (deceit, lies) rises, and the Arabic Part of DECEIT , 09 Sagittarius, closely squares the ASCENDANT (SA). This makes me wonder if SA is lying.

The testimony 3rd House has a critical degree on its cusp --- 21 Fixed ---showing just how critical SA's testimony may be to this case. But why does the 3rd House of Testimony also contain ADMETOS, a death marker, ALGOL, the most malefic Fixed Star in the Heavens,and MURDER1,all close opposed Lord 3 of Testimony VENUS, which itself is partile conjunct the Arabic Part of DEATH, 28 Scorpio?

[Recall VENUS = Hailey in Last Seen. In this Polygraph chart, VENUS is Lord 8 of Death as well as Lord 3 of Testimony, as well as the natural significator of a young girl.]

Now in fairness, these placements could mean nothing more than SA's testimony (3rd House matter) is critical (21 Fixed on cusp) to the investigation, and that the polygraph (3rd House matter) itself is given to SA in the hopes of ascertaining whether the missing child is dead or alive (among other things).

RAPE1 29:20 Aquarius conjuncts NEPTUNE Co-Lord 1 (SA) and squares VENUS (Lord 3, Lord 8, natural significator of a young girl and significator of Hailey in Last Seen chart). RAPE1 also partile squares the Last Seen ASCENDANT 29 Taurus....

The End of the Matter Lord 4 is MERCURY (also the natural significator of testimony), here at 22 Sagittarius, the 'kill or be killed' degree, partile trine the Part of DEATH 22 Leo in the Last Seen chart. MERCURY as natural significator of testimony as well as Lord 4 End of the Matter squares JUPITER 27 Pisces (Lord 1 Shawn). This gives another suggestion of deceit.

Before MOON leaves her sign, she will conjunct NEPTUNE (lies in general, Co-Lord 1 SA) and square VENUS (testimony Lord 3, Lord 8 of Death, natural significator of a young girl, and the significator of Hailey in the Last Seen chart), partile conjunct the Arabic Part of DEATH at 28 Scorpio.

Asteroid evidence includes Asteroid HALLEY at 06 Capricorn conjunct the Part of the FEMALE CHILD and PLUTO, as well as Asteroid SHAWNA at 02 Cancer, in the same degree as the NODES, and partile square the MOON 02 Libra in the Last Seen Chart.

Is the chart simply mirroring that SA was in fact there, actually saw Haleigh leave her house at approx. 3:15 pm on 12/27/2010?

My overall sense is that the polygraph results are ambivalent and difficult to assess. There is likely some truth, some lies, and the challenge to authorities will be in deciphering which is which. End of the Matter Lord 4 MERCURY in the 'kill or be killed' 22nd degree of a double-bodied sign (talking out of both sides of the mouth) square Lord 1 JUPITER (SA) in another double-bodied sign (and the sign most associated with deceit and lies at that) certainly suggests to me that SA should be carefully looked at and perhaps questioned more than once.

Thanks,
Soulscape

Last edited by FifthEssence; 01-06-2011 at 06:40 AM.
Reason: correction

I feel the same way, which way is it?
Putting the asteroid "Veritas" for Truth into the mix, brings Veritas appearance in the 2nd house with a mixed review I suppose.

It makes a Sesquare (domination or efforts expended? obstacles)
to the 22nd degree Mercury in the 10th and a Trine to Pluto
which happens to conjunct Pallas at 5 degrees (both of them) in Capricorn 10th house of the Polygraph examiner.

How should we see Veritas conjunct Hamal at 7 degrees Taurus 40minutes, as it would always be at this degree in this sign whatever and whoever is giving or getting a test right now.
It's a star associated with ruthlessness,brute force, but then again, it's a "he said,she said" ruthless game being played here., and someone wants to win.

Ted Bundy often aced polygraph tests.

But all this Pisces and Neptune the chart ruler in the 12th could mean he still has the residue of the perscription drugs he takes, and it was a non-descript test.

Guess we'll need to wait and see.

"The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."
Wikipedia

Even "Lie" at 19:31 Scorpio has come forward to the degree of Venus 19:40 Scorpio in the Missing Chart, and trine the "Sean" position at 19:25 Pisces.

Considering all the charts with no clear cut indictment from the astrologers, I'm going to keep mum.

Keep up the asteroid search Paulette.

I forgot about inserting "LIE" and it falls in the "most accursed degree of the most accursed sign"

Good work.

Now, all we need is a confirmed date of birth and you may have your answer.

"The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."
Wikipedia

SA DOB Info…

Originally Posted by FifthEssence

We need a documented source (a link will do) for DATE of BIRTH and some kind of confirmation we have the right party.
I found 4 different ones in TX alone ranging in age from 25-33. I found a site with a person who looks like him, indicating he was a Virgo with a page named ShawnBoy from 2007.

Hi--Fifth I did see others in TX but Shawn Casey Adkins is the only one I found to be 25 years old. I did see the post where someone said SA was listed as a Virgo. I disregarded it because many kids put the wrong Birthdays down. (My teenage son’s actually informed me of this- LOL).
Here is SA’s MySpace page: http://www.myspace.com/unconscious_mind85

Czgtz a close friend of Billie, Hailey’s mom, confirmed Shawn is 25 years old. Also, Chili Fries Prior to SA’s MySpace going Private said she saw his name was Shawn C. Adkins and confirmed he was 25 years old and born in 1985. [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5964024&postcount=111"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - TX TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #2[/ame]

Also, See this post by a local that said he attended Snyder High School with her daughters Class of 2003: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5965379&postcount=376"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - TX TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #2[/ame]

And hollye comments about the TDCJ search here: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5972268&postcount=249"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - TX TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #4[/ame]
She said, “I belive that they are also looking at that area as it is heavily wooded and along a river. The primary road from SA's parents residence (I-20) crosses over the Colorado River near there and Business 20 runs along that area into Colorado City….”

SA DOB Likely Confirmed

Marlame has gone to great lengths to verify SA's date of birth and from her research it certainly appears that 6/30/1985 is the correct date. Unless FifthEssence informs me differently, we will proceed.

SA - Asteroid TORO

While waiting for FifthEssence to give me the go-ahead on posting what we believe is SA's chart, I want to share one startling discovery:

The 6/30/1985 chart we are looking at places the Asteroid TORO at 29:27 Taurus.

As most of you know, TORO symbolizes brute force/ brutality.

Chillingly, 29 Taurus is the exact degree of the Last Seen Ascendant, placing the 6/30/1985 person's TORO smack on it. Further, the pre-natal Solar Eclipse position for 6/30/1985 is one degree off, 28:50 Taurus.

Thanks,
Soulscape

Last edited by Soulscape; 01-06-2011 at 07:23 AM.
Reason: clarification

While waiting for FifthEssence to give me the go-ahead on posting what we believe is SA's chart, I want to share one startling discovery:

The 6/30/1985 chart we are looking at places the Asteroid TORO at 29:27 Taurus.

As most of you know, TORO symbolizes brute force/ brutality.

Chillingly, 29 Taurus is the exact degree of the Last Seen Ascendant, placing the 6/30/1985 person's TORO smack on it. Further, the pre-natal Solar Eclipse position for 6/30/1985 is one degree off, 28:50 Taurus.

Thanks,
Soulscape

Dear God, not another one. Poor sweet girl. Close to my heart as I have a 13 year old Haylee at home myself. Sending love and prayer to Hailey and her family.

"This is not about Casey Anthony, but about what happened to Caylee Anthony between the photograph taken on June 15 and the one taken on December 11." LDB, my hero

"I just have to ask you, how does one human being do this to another, let alone do it to their Mother?" Bill Shaeffer

Hailey Dunn's mother says a handful of people connected to her family were told by authorities that they failed polygraph tests that have been administered over the last few days.
Billie Dunn wasn't prepared to name names. However, she told KTAB's Priscilla Luong she and her family's frustration is beginning to mount.

According to Billie Dunn, her boyfriend Shawn Adkins did take a polygraph test. After the test, he did not return to the home he shares with Billie Dunn.

Sounds like the Kyron case and the person of interest there.
The LE waiting, perhaps to be led to the body. That's important, to find her body and the manner of her death.

"The Greek word moira (μοῖρα) literally means a part or portion, and by extension one's portion in life or destiny.
They controlled the metaphorical thread of life of every mortal from birth to death."
Wikipedia

Marlame has gone to great lengths to verify SA's date of birth and from her research it certainly appears that 6/30/1985 is the correct date. Unless FifthEssence informs me differently, we will proceed.

Thank you, Marla, for your invaluable support and assistance.

Love,
Soulscape

I found his birth certificate in vital records, 06-30-85 is the correct date.