Twenty Third Party Gnome Apps you Can’t Live Without

When on Unix/Linux I mostly use Gnome, and so here are some of the best third party GTK+ applications around I have found.1. Leafpad Great and simple text editor (think notepad). Loads in an instant, does all the basic work you expect from a simple text editor.

2. BloGTK & Drivel For all you bloggers, these two apps will do the job for livejournal, blogger etc.

4. Gaim & Gossip While I don’t agree with some Gaim developers regarding their focus and direction, Gaim does the job for all of us who require mult-IM. For those who prefer it Free, Gossip is a great Jabber-only client, with a highly HIG-ified UI.

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2004-10-30 6:45 am

well i use k3b for cd burning, pretty cool features and it works perfectly.

2004-10-30 6:52 am

Yeah, I use it too. But there are times that you don’t want KDE installed, especially like in on my old laptop case with 3 GB of space (and one of them was a 1 GB swap)… Installing K3B alone is about 40 MBs, because of the kde libs it requires.

but, well, I understand not anyone has the need to manage their book collection with a gnome app

2004-10-30 9:43 am

Eugenia, many of these aren’t GNOME, they are simple GTK2-based applications. Gimp doesn’t use GNOME libs and doesn’t store its configuration in gconf. Neither does XChat-2 (which can be built even without GTK2), Inkscape, Gaim, Bluefish, or Gossip. You’ve been involved in the GNOME community for some time now, you of all people should know that GTK2 does not necessarily mean GNOME. There are a lot of GTK2 developers out there who are sick of people thinking their toolkit is linked to a desktop which many do not like.

2004-10-30 9:55 am

gThumb > GQView

A bit more than GThumb, with GQview you can actually do something with images. More advanced viewing options.

The GIMP > The GIMP?

Very different philosophy from Photoshop’s. No, you can’t do even half of Photoshop’s capabilities w/ it. I like it but had to get used to it.

Totem > MPlayer

Why not MPlayer? You have an option of command-line vs GUI operation. Best support for various formats, win32codecs are available.

AbiWord > OpenOffice.org

Encoding is sometimes a problem with Hungarian charset. OpenOffice is painfully heavyweight, but I feel there’s a more powerful community behind it. Abiword crashed more often for me.

(I have to add: I don’t use Gnome)

2004-10-30 9:56 am

@alien I agree, I’ve detested Gnome since it first came out, I’ve tried KDE, I found it too large and “clunky”, I will admit, I like some of the Gnome apps, and some of the K apps, but as far as wm’s go, FluxBox has been my favorite for years, and I continue to use it to this day. (I’ve tried ALOT of WM’s), as far as a “desktop solution” for linux, I think I’d have to say I prefer XFCE for the “Total Desktop” (although I don’t have a need for that).

/my 2 cents

2004-10-30 9:58 am

There is hardly any distinction between GNOME applications and Gtk+ applications. An application doesn’t have to use any of the GNOME libraries for it be a gnome application. It is enough for an application just to use Gtk+ and adhere to the GNOME HIG for it to be recognized as a GNOME application.

Your assumption that a GNOME application has to use a GNOME library is broken. In fact, there are a few applications which use some GNOME libraries that aren’t GNOME applications. What matters is how well an application is integrated into the GNOME environment, and how consistently it behaves with other applications. And almost all the Gtk applications I have used are not only consistent, they behave like any other GNOME/Gtk application would. Adhering to the GNOME HIG is a different story altogether.

2004-10-30 10:00 am

I’m loving the latest GNOME configured with Ubuntu. I have it already on both of my computers. I love it. At this point I don’t see me using KDE very soon, but it’s always good to have some alternative. 🙂

All these GNOME/GTK+ apps and so little time to test them all.

2004-10-30 10:28 am

I usually use a plain text editor for web development, but for those who require features and syntax highlighting

Syntax highlighting works in VIm supporting many various formats. Open a file with it (e.g. a .c or .html) and do :syntax on. It works great, ‘couldn’t live without it’.

Anyway in GNOME i use the non-GTK app Aterm as alternative for GNOME-Terminal since it uses far less resources especially when scrolling (e.g. when compiling). Onfortunately it doesn’t support tabs and multi-Aterm ain’t very stable [here].

2004-10-30 10:53 am

> Onfortunately it doesn’t support tabs and multi-Aterm ain’t very stable [here].

That’s what GNU Screen is made for.

2004-10-30 11:45 am

… that would be cool!

Sadly, neither Fink nor DarwinPorts seem to have it in their package database; X-CD-Roast, OTOH, is available both directly from the main site and as a Fink package.

K3b looks and feels much better, anyway…

2004-10-30 11:49 am

nice article Eugenia, but the link to “Blam” just points back to this link…

— Vecc

2004-10-30 11:52 am

A UI that is ugly as sin (always looks like a game to me…) but it works and works well for. Mever found a decent KDE replacement trhat shipped with any distro… even “…and the kitchen sink” SuSE 9.1 which I’m using right now.

2004-10-30 11:59 am

I think I am dead, or at least on the intensive care… Okay, for image editing you can’t get around The Gimp, but:

I mostly use OpenOffice for office things, because it is integrated, for example, I can put parts of spreadsheets into presentations and text documents.

For playing multimedia MPlayer works fine, except for DVD playing but the only way I get halfway decent performance is a commercial DVD playing app on Windows 98.

For the rest I use KDE.

Konqueror+KuickShow is ideal for viewing pictures. Konqueror renders the thumbnails, with one middle click they show in KuickShow, which is very lean and fast. With the scroll wheel you can browse through photo’s.

Kopete works perfectly fine as an instant messenger. It does MSN, ICQ and AIM and especially the not too disturbing notification pop-ups are very nice.

I don’t have too many MP3’s, but until now JuK has worked fine for me. Too bad it doesn’t yet fully support KIO.

And for CD burning there is K3B.

So either I am dead or you can live perfectly fine without most of these applications.

2004-10-30 12:18 pm

I’m using XFCE4.19 and like these apps because they are NOT bloated! (dependancies)

APP EBUILD CALL

Terminal: [xterm] (xterm)

Text Editor: [bluefish] (bluefish)

Image Editor: [gimp] (gimp-2.0)

Vector Graphics: [inkscape] (inkscape)

Diagram Editor: [dia] (dia)

PDF Reader: [acroread] (acroread)

Web Browser: [mozilla-firefox] (firefox)

Mail Client: [mozilla-thunderbird] (thunderbird)

IRC Client: [xchat] (xchat-2)

FTP Client: [gftp] (gftp)

Movie Player: [mplayer] (mplayer)

Audio Player: [xmms] (xmms)

Office: [openoffice] (ooffice)

CD Mastering: [xcdroast] (xcdroast)

Java IDE: [eclipse-sdk] (eclipse-3.1)

PC Emulator: [qemu] (qemu)

2004-10-30 12:21 pm

Too bad that there’s no a good P2P app for Gnome 2.x. Is there a projet that aim to adress this issue (share files on edonkey or emule) ?

I use gcdw i.e cdw -g (a gt2 gui for cdw available on deb sid) works great.

2004-10-30 1:10 pm

I have to give thanks to Eugenia for Gnomefiles, which has been invaluable in my conversion to Gnome.

Bluefish is a great text editor, and it’s great to see how long it’s come.. I remember when it didn’t even have project support, and now its project management is pretty much flawless for my uses.

All it needs now for perfection is the ability to weed out symbols from code and list them out for you.

2004-10-30 1:11 pm

Yeah, Gnomefiles rock.

2004-10-30 1:26 pm

What are twenty-third party apps?

It’s my duty to share the gift of laughter.

2004-10-30 1:43 pm

Maybe Suse doesn’t ship with it, but KAudioCreator is a CD ripping tool that works very well and has a much better UI than Grip. Or you could just use the Audio CD kioslave by typing in “audiocd:/” into Konqueror and drag and drop the songs and file formats you want. KDE will on-the-fly rip and convert to the desired format.

2004-10-30 1:45 pm

I don’t understand the problem y’all complain about CD/DVD Burning. CD Burning is currently integrated in the GNOME desktop through the file manager. The only piece missing is the ability to burn audio CDs from rhythmbox.

This imho is the way to go, not through a separate app such as k3b. So while it is true that GNOME does not have a CD-burning App. What you guys forget is that CD-Burning in gnome is a breeze.

K3b is great, except that I can’t ever get it to burn a CD properly (I’m using some beta build of it on Debian Sid, so that’s understandable…) Instead I use Gnome CD Master. http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/gcdmaster/ It works great for my needs. For some reason, Nautilus doesn’t like my burner (which is a Plextor 12/10/32S) and keeps saying that there isn’t a CD in the drive…

To be fair, neither aMule nor xMule are really GNOME apps, as they use wxWidgets for their toolkit. That means that thay are only GTK apps when compiled on under linx/dsd/.., whereas wxMac for instance uses the native widget-set. And AFAIK aMule hasn’t done anything to conform to the GNOME HIG. I dont know about xMule though.

Why don’t you just write a simple article like this one and submit it?

2004-10-30 4:40 pm

and what’s the point of putting links to KDE apps?

We already know where to find them, the problem is that we don’t like it and we use GTK apps. instead.

2004-10-30 5:02 pm

I just wish someone would make a file manager for GNOME more powerful than the wimpy Nautilus.

You can’t even open a new window with it! that pisses me off to no end when I want to do some quick file management. I can’t just push Control N.

And no window splitting, either! How irritating.

I also wish they hadn’t taken out tab completion in the GTK file box. It was one thing I really miss from versions before 2.7

2004-10-30 5:04 pm

What about arson? Its my favorite cd burning software, i prefer it over k3b.

2004-10-30 5:10 pm

Apart from the embarassing mistake (GNOME apps instead of Gtk apps), I don’t see the point of this article. Every app listed here has one or more counterparts in the KDE/Windows/Mac world, neither of them has that uniqueness that force you to use *that* app instead of a clone (except the Gimp, though Krita is shaping up nicely).

What was the purpose of this article, apart from the weekly gnomefiles.org ad?

It’s what I’m hoping for to someday be able to replace Nautilus (maybe not entirely tho).

2004-10-30 5:47 pm

Apart from the embarassing mistake (GNOME apps instead of Gtk apps), I don’t see the point of this article. Every app listed here has one or more counterparts in the KDE/Windows/Mac world, neither of them has that uniqueness that force you to use *that* app instead of a clone (except the Gimp, though Krita is shaping up nicely).

What was the purpose of this article, apart from the weekly gnomefiles.org ad?

Maybe because you are a KDE user, but for GNOME users this article is very useful..

2004-10-30 5:47 pm

The Gimp can do it just like Photoshop can!

Yeah, right, and you can add vi, and say “vi, a production-ready text editor that does just what you can do with Dreamweaver!”

2004-10-30 6:03 pm

Do you think it is possible to view an article like this not as something directed against something else (or did I miss the gnome rulors, KDE/Win/OSX suxors part)?

It is just a list of gnome, or rather gnome and gtk apps that the author of the article likes. As someone who is not a fulltime gnome user I enjoyed it and some of the recomended programs are now installed on my computer, so where exactly is your problem?

2004-10-30 6:15 pm

Am I the only one wondering about this polarization of users? People are either GNOME users or KDE users …. whatever happened to using the best tool for the job?

i’ve spent a lot of time looking for a GTK replacement for K3B and these two apps combined are the closest i’ve come yet.

2004-10-30 6:28 pm

I’m a bit surprised that none of Mozilla, Firefox or Thunderbird – all third-party GTK+ apps – got a mention here. Before you claim they’re not third-party, they’re not part of the core GNOME distribution and not every Linux distro even ships them. Without any of the three mentioned, it devalues this Top 20 GTK+ list somewhat.

2004-10-30 6:57 pm

Whether GIMP can do everything that Photoshop can do depends entirely on what you do with Photoshop. I guess that for most people, the GIMP works just as well: Edit Photos, some web graphics…

If you’re in the ad or printing business, GIMP will not work for you.

But you can still do many Photoshop tasks in GIMP. Jimmac produces all his pixel-based icons in the GIMP.

2004-10-30 7:21 pm

Eclipse is a GTK2-compatible IDE for just about any language… and it has the best toolset on the market.

Am I the only one wondering about this polarization of users? People are either GNOME users or KDE users …. whatever happened to using the best tool for the job?

IHMO, this is just the beginning. The best tool for the job is for administrators, GUI users think differently, I believe.

A number of examples:

* You can get used to the buttom order. I’m slighly confused when using KDE-style, and I guess, it’s the same for KDE users when using GNOME-style dialogs.

* You can get used to file name ordering styles. For example, Anjunta does not use the GTK file picker dialog, and sorts file names differently. MPlayers GUI is even more worse.

* You can get used to certain habits: ‘Preferences’ sorted under ‘Edit’, for example.

* You can get used to desktop-wide configuration: GQview ignores ‘double-click’ settings, which makes it less useful from a GNOME and probably also from a KDE point of view.

* You can get used to certain visual hints: Sylpheed uses no stock buttoms even in the GTK2 version which makes it slighly confusing.

* You can’t get used to simplicity: KDE style apps neeed extra configuration when you switch themes under GNOME. So why should one use them if there’s a GTK application with similar functionality available?

Even when you use XFce, some of the above arguments apply. And there’s nearly no standard application which isn’t implemented in one of the both widely-used toolkits. Some exceptions like OpenOffice, Mozilla or Blender exist, but do you really believe this will continue to hold forever?

2004-10-30 9:31 pm

I’m in the process of migrating to only using GTK apps and a Gnome Desktop. The reason for this, is that when I found out that programmers for qt could only have there work available freely for the linux community but not for the windows, where as GTK can. I think that sucks, and we should all work together to take over Microsoft. Thats why I use GTK. Except like others are saying, i still use K3B, it rocks, and qtparted(ive heard there’s a gtkparted, haven’t tried it yet)

2004-10-30 9:35 pm

Mozilla-Firefox / Gtkembedmoz (for some apps like FTD4Linux)

Amule

Nicotine

Grdesktop (remotedesktop client)

Straw

GFTP

GLAME

CinePaint

GTetriNet

BidWatcher

Default GNOME is pretty good for me.

2004-10-30 9:41 pm

aparently firefox will be higifying in the near future and becomming the gnome browser 😀

2004-10-30 10:11 pm

>The reason for this, is that when I found out that

>programmers for qt could only have there work available

>freely for the linux community but not for the windows, where

>as GTK can.

This is not true anymore: a complete port of kdelibs to the Windows platform is being done, so soon (hopefully) all KDE apps will run *natively* under Windows!

Not really. A CD burning app is a fundamentally simple program, so six times as many developers wouldn’t necessarily help anything. They all took slightly different approaches and died through lack of interest or changing GNOME paradigms. I’d say Coaster and nautilus-cd-burner, combined, will cope fine with burning needs under GNOME in a couple of revisions’ time. There’ve been some interesting discussions about whether it’s possible to make one interface do everything, but no-one’s come up with a convincing solution that will be as simple as nautilus-cd-burner is for easy stuff while covering complex stuff as well as k3b, so I expect we’ll end up with both. Till then we’ll put up with the ugly cryptic interface that is xcdroast or installing the kde libs to use k3b. It ain’t the end of the world. And k3b integrates great with GNOME, thanks to freedesktop (yay freedesktop!)

2004-10-30 10:54 pm

I do wish they’d write a cd-burning pipe for gstreamer and have nautilus-cd-burn use it or something, though. Needing temp space on the hard disk the size of the stuff you want to burn is a pain; it’s OK for a 650MB CD, but what about an 8.6GB DVD?

2004-10-30 10:56 pm

erm, maybe the point was to flag up good GNOME software for GNOME users who may not have heard of it? Just a wild guess, there. Not everything is advocacy.

2004-10-30 10:57 pm

Yeah, I use it too. But there are times that you don’t want KDE installed, especially like in on my old laptop case with 3 GB of space (and one of them was a 1 GB swap)… Installing K3B alone is about 40 MBs, because of the kde libs it requires.

Oh damn – 40 meg! Tell me this. Do you think about the libraries that are being installed with Windows software, and do you purposefully stop installing software because it uses certain libraries? Do you even know what libraries and components the software uses? I’m guessing no.

And what on Earth do you have 1 GB of swap for?

2004-10-30 11:02 pm

It doesn’t matter. You don’t get it. What matters is that I am trying to have a fully functional OS on a laptop of 2 GB of hard disk. So, even 40 MB, is a lot, and I would consider installing it or not.

As for the 1 GB of swap, it’s needed. The laptop only has 128 MB of RAM, and it doesn’t allow more memory than that (max out supported). So, as much swap as it’s possible is the logical thing to do, especially if you use Gnome.

2004-10-30 11:03 pm

aparently firefox will be higifying in the near future and becomming the gnome browser

Bollocks. Why? Because Mozilla and Firefox are cross-platform applications.

Yeah, but none of these apps are still finished, neither they burn DVDs. When Gnome gets a good CD burner, most people will be having DVDs… that’s why I raise the question all too often that something has to be done soon.

2004-10-30 11:33 pm

Not bollocks. Already under Linux, the preferences are under “Edit” menu instead of “Tools” as on Windows, in order to conform with the gnome HIG.

2004-10-31 12:00 am

It doesn’t matter. You don’t get it. What matters is that I am trying to have a fully functional OS on a laptop of 2 GB of hard disk.

Well with 1 GB of swap, that’s about 1 GB of space then. It depends on what you mean by a fully functional desktop though. With the base system, base desktop and all the applications you can throw at it it’s not really enough space whatever you do.

Anyway, I’ll give you that as you don’t want to knowingly install unnecessary components over again within that constraint. However, my point is that people do this on Windows all the time without even thinking about it, and you probably do to, even on machines with limited space.

The laptop only has 128 MB of RAM, and it doesn’t allow more memory than that (max out supported). So, as much swap as it’s possible is the logical thing to do, especially if you use Gnome.

The rule of thumb for swap is about double your memory, or up to three or four times if you feel desperate. I’ve ran KDE with 128 MB and it ran OK with a few browser sessions a terminal and amaroK running (KDE apps there). It was obviously slower (but consistently so) and used up 175 MB of 256 MB of swap, average. Windows XP churned the disk and didn’t quite know what it was doing at times after several hours of browsing, music listening and terminal ssh-ing. I’ve installed Gnome and used GTK applications with 128 MB of memory and it was hellishly slow and not consistent (stops, starts of applications etc. somewhat worse than XP at times), but I’m not privy to exactly what resources it was using. It was purely just to experiment and try different things, and it’s not a terribly great comparison as it’s difficult to know what is taking up the resources sometimes. I’ll have to pay more attention.

However, I know no functionally diverse desktop will run well with 128 MB today, but I’m shocked at a figure of 1 GB of swap on top. Are you sure you can’t settle for 512 or 384 MB? Is it really GTK and Gnome, and if it is what the hell is going to happen when a VM environment like Mono or Java gets widely used?

I’m going to go back to Gnome on my 256 MB machine and give it some more serious usage for a period of time. I think I’ll give MonoDevelop a bash to see what the effect would be like, especially as I use SharpDevelop and Eclipse on the very same machine.

2004-10-31 12:07 am

Not bollocks. Already under Linux, the preferences are under “Edit” menu instead of “Tools” as on Windows, in order to conform with the gnome HIG.

He specified that Firefox was going to conform to the HIG and become the Gnome browser which is a line some people like to peddle.

Firefox provides a Gnome integration option (and a Windows one, and a Mac one, and now a KDE one), which makes a big difference to the makeup of the application. Firefox itself is not conforming to the Gnome HIG nor can it.

2004-10-31 1:53 am

As I have limited memory I try to limit the amount of libraries I use and as I generally use GTK apps (I think they look better and feel more natural outside of GNOME than KDE apps do outside of KDE) it is a real hassle for me to launch a kde app and wait for the KDE libraries to load, this defeats the “right tool for the right job” mantra and as a result it is very useful for me (and I assume others) to have good and useful lists of GNOME apps, as others have said I am shure that many would appreciate a good list of QT apps, I think that most people have the perception that if they like something that others agree with them e.g. I can’t imagine running KDE or voting Republican but that doesn’t mean that others don’t.

2004-10-31 3:25 am

20 applications that GNOME needs/would totally make GNOME roxxor your soxxors. (Not a troll.) A K3B-like or equivalent CD-burning app, something like that new searching thing that is assimilating Dashboard, etc., but how about fresh ideas right here, at OSNews. It would be fun.

2004-10-31 3:56 am

Anyone know of a good gnome ftp client that is similar to kbear in look and functionality? (I personally dont like gftp)

gaim is the official gnome im, but its cross platform. one doesnt have anything to do with the other. ie is the official browser, but they had mac versions for a few years. itunes is the official mac music app, but we’ve got a windows version.

previously, firefox was cross platform, but it was designed for and on windows. aparently, this is gonna change. i totally forget where i read this, but it seemed credible at the time. maybe someone more plugged into firefox development could clear it up, but as i understand it, firefox in the upcomming releases will conform more and more to the gnome HIG with the purpose of becomming the official gnome browser.

2004-10-31 11:39 am

… but they’re GTK apps, not gnome apps. They can follow the hig and stuff, but are just gtk apps (and good ones)

2004-10-31 11:42 am

I also use realplayer 10, another 3rd party gtk app (that follows the hig), that’s not a gnome app

2004-10-31 11:47 am

but they’re GTK apps, not gnome apps.

Yeah, and Linux is GNU/Linux, not Linux.

2004-10-31 4:50 pm

Gimp does have a few advantages compared to photoshop, such as better scripting facility (supporting python, perl etc. These languages are certainly a lot more powerful than the Action panel), better extension facility (again, a lot of extensions can be created with scripting languages).

It is true that Gimp does not conform to the Gnome HIG, but considering its application (more or less professional raster image editing) and the fact that a lot of Gimp users are former/partial Photoshop users, this could be excused.

Am I the only one wondering about this polarization of users? People are either GNOME users or KDE users …. whatever happened to using the best tool for the job?

I myself use blackbox http://www.sf.net/projects/blackboxwm/ (no not fluxbox. eh. [expression of indifference]) which is currently under very active development. I also agree with the sentiment expressed above — I use knode instead of pan (although I prefer the MacOS newsreader MT-Newswatcher above anything else I’ve tried) under linux despite the lack of multi-part binary support, or support for yEnc.

For a file-manager I way prefer rox-filer, and those of you who are tired of Nautilus might be pleasantly surprised by it. It’s not a be-all-end-all by any means, but particularly for users of black/flux box, it’s very nice.

2004-10-31 5:36 pm

Yeah, but none of these apps are still finished, neither they burn DVDs. When Gnome gets a good CD burner, most people will be having DVDs… that’s why I raise the question all too often that something has to be done soon.

I’ve always used nautilus-cd-burner to make CDs and have never had a problem. Granted it doesn’t do audio but everything else works fine. Heck, it even burns DVDs!

2004-10-31 7:42 pm

Why don’t you run XFce on your laptop? I used to run GNOME on my equally underpowered laptop. I still run it on my desktop, but I find XFce makes a lot more sense and feels much speedier with the available resources.

2004-10-31 9:51 pm

Hi OSNews!

How about starting a KDEFiles project as well? Your site leans too heavily on all things GNOME that KDE users such as me are beginning to get alienated.

While Qt for Linux is GPL so is GOOD; Qt for M$ Windoze IS commercial and is EVIL as its host OS. Period. Amen. Hallelujah.

In other hand, GTK+, GNUstep-GUI, FLTK etc… IS NOT COMMERCIAL ON ANY FLATFORM so IS NOT TOTAL EVIL.

And apparently, some guy got confused with KDELibs and Qt.

2004-11-01 8:00 pm

Christopher Culver wrote:

“Eugenia, many of these aren’t GNOME, they are simple GTK2-based applications. Gimp doesn’t use GNOME libs and doesn’t store its configuration in gconf. Neither does XChat-2 (which can be built even without GTK2), Inkscape, Gaim, Bluefish, or Gossip.”

This may be true, but Bluefish does require several Gnome components not currently installed on my system (gconf2, gnome-mime-data, libbonobo2-0 and libbononbo2-common). All told, installing Bluefish would add 26MB to my system. The same was true for Gaim, which was overkill as I only needed an ICQ client (now running Alicq and happy with it). And before you say 26MB isn’t that much, think about having to download several such applications over a 26.6K dialup, then tell me it isn’t that much.

I have an older laptop running Feather Linux. I don’t run KDE or Gnome because they run too slow on my machine. I run IceWM because it’s faster, and I like the look and feel of it. So, the fact that GTK and Gnome apps are mingled together and the terms often used interchangeably is of no help to someone like me.

I like GTK apps (1.2 or 2) but want to avoid those that also require Gnome components (at least for the most part). Is there a site/repository out there that lists GTK apps that do not require Gnome components? Can I discern/dicipher this information at Gnomefiles? Thanks.

Walt Huntsman

2004-11-02 8:19 am

Hi Euginia, I am just woindering of the 128 RAM limitation of your laptop. Is this the limitation the producewr wrote in the handbook or did you try to install more and it failed? I ask the question because untilk at the begining of the year I had an old IBM Thinkpad where IBM stated that it could not handle more than 192 MB RAM. But at that time 64MB was the biggest availiable memory, so I pluged in 2 256 MB RAM sticks and than I had 512 MB to my disposal. OK, I lost 64 MB which were not recognized anymore but I had plenty more than IBM said at the time of writing there handbook. Sincew memory is quite cheap, why don’t you try?

regards

2004-11-02 6:27 pm

You forgot to say what Kino and Sound-juicer are. Usually a good idea to include that bit of info when pushing software.

2004-11-09 1:33 am

Have you tried punching in ‘burn:///’ into nautilus? You can just drag your files there and click ‘Write to CD’. If it’s an ISO image you want to burn, you can right-click on it and tell it to burn to CD.