IN UNRAVELING DNA: The Most Important Molecule of Life, Maxim D. Frank-Kamenetskii gives a clear understanding of genetics without political overtones. For a good understanding of the mechanics of genes this is an excellent book. But he is not without some philosophical thoughts on the subject. "It is very hard to admit that there is only one single reason for each of us to come into this world: to transmit our DNA to the next generation. There is absolutely no other purpose for us to be born. It is very uncomfortable to realize that our body is actually nothing more than a shell to carry DNA. There is no difference, with respect to this goal of existence, between a human and a bacterium, or a simple virus, or even a plasmid. From the biological viewpoint, people have been wandering in darkness trying to find the goal of their existence in cults, religions, music, poetry, and fine arts. Although they all have the same goal, various species differ drastically with respect to the means they have at their disposal to reach this goal. Keeping in mind the simplicity of the goal, the diversity and the degree of sophistication that nature demonstrates seems truly amazing. However, if you think about it, you will realize that under conditions of fierce competition for limited resources, more primitive organisms should eventually lose to more sophisticated organisms, let alone different species. It still remains to he seen whether humans are sophisticated enough to avoid eventually following the fate of dinosaurs. One can state that the above argument is correct only for rather sophisticated organisms, like animals, and that primitive organisms like bacteria, viruses, and plasmids compensate for their lack of sophistication by their ability to multiply with fantastic speed." The above is unabashed science, bringing you stark reality without cowardice and aversion. Richard Dawkins coined the term the selfish gene, and in his latest book Unweaving the Rainbow he takes on the assumption that genes are destiny. Humans alone can use their immense creative power not only to build upon science and technology, we can create and purposefully direct our own evolution. This is the most creative endeavor ever undertaken, and our best hope for peace and happiness without disease or want while turning from the material to the intellectual. Marxists would deny people this intellectual world for one filled with material needs only. For leftist intellectuals to deny others access to this world is cowardly, elitist and hateful.

There cannot be a comparison between a human genome and a bacterial plasmid. Plasmids are a sort of "foreign entity" in the bacteria anyway, trying to reproduce themselves and be integrated into the DNA of the bacteria. I don't even think we know WHY they exist. They aren't required for anything.

If you reduce us all to DNA then why do we have all the other stuff? Why do we carry genes for artistic and musical ability? We might not be able to pinpoint it yet, but trust me we will. If you are artistic chances are your parents or another relative is too. The ability is inherited. Some might argue that it is environment but I can say it is not all environment. I could draw and paint from the day I was born almost. Self-taught artists are a legacy in my family.

I do believe DNA is the answer to almost every question we have right now concerning life. Some might argue it is bio-chemistry but I think its genetics. I however am not one of the people who believe we are in "control" of our destiny. There are way too many factors which are competing against each other for dominance. Weather, for instance. We have no control over the weather and most likely never will.

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Excellent ideas.

When I read the topic my reaction was that the purpose of life was to preserve life. We need to preserve these priceless creations: elephants, lions, elk....

But what about the race that created Western Civilization. Jews tell us that the white race does not exist, so it is not worth preserving.

Jews tell us that the Irish, the Danes, the Slavs, the Nordics, the Alpines, the Iberians ... are not priceless and important. Rather, Jews tell us that Europe will be better off when the Third World becomes the majority there, when whites are slowly eradicated or absorbed into huge invasions of Arabs and Africans.

Originally posted by MemberNo7 Life exists to perpetuate itself. Our only purpose is to breed.

If thats true MemberNo7, then values mean nothing. Pride, honor, and courage are meaningless. Honesty, individualism, and yes, even white nationalism have no point.

I disagree, DNA is not all about breeding, regardless of what we know now. It will not be what we know 10 years form now.

What purpose biologically do humans serve?

None. We are on the very tip top of the food chain. Sure we can get killed by certain things. Bacterial disease, tigers could eat us in the jungle, we can murder ourselves. But we serve NO biological purpose on earth. We strive to move forward. We strive to change, mold, and manipulate our environment. What other species does that?

If we are here to perpetuate our species, what is our goal in perpetuation? Why does the biosphere need one more human? How do we contribute? Contribution to the biospehere implies contribution to stability of the earth in some form or other. Humans cannot be mistaken for warriors of stability.

Originally posted by Glory88 If thats true MemberNo7, then values mean nothing. Pride, honor, and courage are meaningless. Honesty, individualism, and yes, even white nationalism have no point.

I disagree, DNA is not all about breeding, regardless of what we know now. It will not be what we know 10 years form now.

What purpose biologically do humans serve?

None. We are on the very tip top of the food chain. Sure we can get killed by certain things. Bacterial disease, tigers could eat us in the jungle, we can murder ourselves. But we serve NO biological purpose on earth. We strive to move forward. We strive to change, mold, and manipulate our environment. What other species does that?

If we are here to perpetuate our species, what is our goal in perpetuation? Why does the biosphere need one more human? How do we contribute? Contribution to the biospehere implies contribution to stability of the earth in some form or other. Humans cannot be mistaken for warriors of stability. Ever!

Yes, all things are meaningless. What value did honour have before humans? What purpose does WN serve before Whites existed? What purpose after we are gone?

What was the purpose of life 5 billion years ago? What will be the purpose 376 million years hence? Nothing.

But the impulse of all life is simply to perpetuate itself. Most life lacks consciousness, and the forms of life which have it lack the level in which humans have it. All other forms of life do not have the capacity to question their existence, and thus do not need to assign it created (ie, contrived) values. As a result, they continue on in their meaningless impulse to create because it is simply what they do.

We are the same. Our only real purpose is to breed, then die, and who-knows-what thereadter. This is a little depressing. So we invent stuff. As a result, it bgins to attain value because we've created a world/reality wherein these creations exist.

As far as objective reality goes, we cannot discern our purpose, but it is save to say, as far as I see, everything we know, are, or will create will be gone -- be it 2000 years or 2000 billion years. Thus, is cosmic terms, all these things are fleeting and empty. Our only purpose in life will be meaningless but the only one which has always exist; perpetuation.

Joseph Morgan, Your comment about the Jewish campaign to foist the idea that "there is no such thing as the White race" ties back to your thread concerning the power of naming and labelling things.

My post on that thread refers to George Orwell's observation that the purpose of Newspeak in 1984 is to make disapproved thoughts impossible to think. By extirpating the names of and words for disapproved things, the Inner Party knows that it can thus go far toward making those disapproved things themselves vanish!

Thank goodness we have the terms "WHITE RACE", and "WHITE". Per the Newspeak principles, the eradication of these terms must be at the very top of the Inner Party agenda, in order to make it hard for Whites to even think the concepts.

David Duke has been largely responsible for popularizing the excellent White term: "EUROPEAN AMERICAN". Notice Mr. Duke's skillful use of terms in the acronym EURO = "European-American Unity and Rights Organization". Mr. Duke takes advantage of the very positive connotations of the words unity and rights. He also takes advantage of the brilliant device of constructing an organizational acronym that is itself also an abbreviation for the organization's first and most essential term, European.

It has been said that the philosopher has reached highest level of understanding. Quite a few of you are not there and may never get there.

Existence is not directionless or purposeless. There is an internal purpose and direction to existence. It is from the simple to the complex, from the unconscious to the conscious. About being and becoming. For the self-created to become fully conscious of itself. Lower life forms know nothing of this. Yet they are there to serve a purpose beyond themselves.