Some guy was telling that 650d would have a pentaprism. Too good to be true I guess And no digic5+, just digic5 (I don't know the difference, just telling).

Nevertheless, I find 5fps and xxd af system to be nice improvements (for Canon). Maybe this is the one that will take the place of my old rebel when it dies. It perfectly suits my photographic needs. Smallest possible body, decent fps for trackdays and decent af.Problem is that I'm not willing to pay more than 600 euros for it

This will mean the 70d will be around £1500 in UK I think, i was assuming it would be slightly more expensive than the original 60d price. I'm really quite disgusted with canon. While Nikon seem to be reducing/keeping their prices relatively low, canon have had a massive price hike. I wouldnt buy it anyway but 650d is £800 with lens, thats far too expensive for a beginner SLR. Furthermore, the 40mm pancake ($199) in USA is £229 in UK (about $353). I really don't understand Canon's mindset

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This will mean the 70d will be around £1500 in UK I think, i was assuming it would be slightly more expensive than the original 60d price. I'm really quite disgusted with canon. While Nikon seem to be reducing/keeping their prices relatively low, canon have had a massive price hike. I wouldnt buy it anyway but 650d is £800 with lens, thats far too expensive for a beginner SLR. Furthermore, the 40mm pancake ($199) in USA is £229 in UK (about $353). I really don't understand Canon's mindset

As the 7D is about £1000 then the 70D will come be about that (street) price within a year. The 650D body is £799 from WEX - at launch so this can be expected to drop to £699 quite quickly.

The black and yellow D7000 in comparison is about £900 at todays street price.

Well this looks like a cracking little camera to me, not enough to tempt me to upgrade from a 500D as I want to go FF but actually that spec in a FF (5D2 sensor) would be my happy as a pig in poo camera

Yup. I can't believe my more than 2-year-old T2i will basically have the same RAW IQ as the latest and greatest Canon crop body offering, which is $849 body only. It's rather sad.

A great big, HUH?

With Digic 5? No, RAW will NOT be the same! And IQ is totally SUBJECTIVE: hello, this is Earth, have we met? Nobody, and I mean nobody, can speak to IQ. It is ENTIRELY personal. No? What do you say to those who like their images to look soft? Hmm?

^ I'm not so sure digic5 has any IQ advantages for RAW... I think its IQ benefits are mostly for jpg and video (and I'm not even sure the video ones are implemented here: I see no mention of IPB or all-I, and the bitrate numbers match the old h.264 codec)

thats one hefty price ! the body only will be more expencive here (if the price calculates like the lenss) then the 60D body.

canon seems to step up there prices drasticly with the latest few models.

the 5d3 was a whopping 1 grand more this camers is a whopping 200 euro more then the 600d was on release.

im worrties about the 70D wich by this pricing should be body only for 1300/1400 euro and the new 7D should go up to 1700/1800 wich are just rediculous prices... thats 2 times my monthly income good job canon for killing my hobby.theres no way i can afford these lenses you make but now i cant even upgrade camera.

ah well everything for profits and the directors Mercedes/villa right?