Anyone else still struggling with Berryz Loss?

1: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/02(土) 23:39:08.35 0.netIt’s been over nine months and I still can’t get over it. I’m now a °C and Musume DD, but every time I go to a Hello!Con it’s like “ah… Berryz isn’t here…“

4: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:00:34.80 0.net
I still haven’t been able to watch the Blu-Ray of their final concert.

7: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:08:41.86 0.net
Chinami Loss.

8: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:10:56.51 0.netI felt like I’d gotten over it. I even found a new non-Berryz member to care about and everything. I felt like I was fine, so I started watching the Budokan concert but I just couldn’t and I turned it off right away. I can tell that even though I’m fine for the most part, I still have them hidden deep in my heart and it’ll take years before I can truly get over them.

9: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:13:08.52 0.netI’ve had a hole in my heart ever since the day I graduated from being a wota.

11: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:16:43.31 0.net
For the guys who were exclusively Berryz wota with no interest in H!P as a whole, Miyabi Factory is our only spiritual support.

17: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:26:42.75 0.net>>15
Yeah. I thought I’d root for Country Girls since Momochi’s there, but I just can’t seem to get that into them.

14: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:20:36.43 0.net
I was solely dedicated to Berryz. I just had this emptiness in my heart, but I went to a nearby event just to see if any of my acquaintances were there and I ended up finding a member I liked. I do have fun supporting her now, but every now and then I still just feel so lonely.

18: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:28:46.12 0.netI’d lost interest in everyone else so I was dedicated to Berryz, but now after some months have passed I’ve settled down and am casually going to see other groups, too. I’m having fun, but it just feels so light for some reason. I might not ever fall for another group quite as hard as I did for them.

27: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:43:24.48 0.netIt continues to be so bad for me I don’t even have the will to live.

29: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:44:10.75 0.net
There’s no other group with as big of a presence as them.
They’re dearly missed.

36: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:48:50.12 0.net
I seriously wonder what all the Risako wota and stuff are up to?
I’m a Miya wota so I’m still doing relatively alright.

33: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:46:40.85 0.net
That whole thing about someone else inheriting Berryz’ “soul” is just crazy talk. It’s not about “soul” or anything like that — it was just them messing about.

37: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:49:08.19 0.net
Yeah. No one can imitate that recklessness. I remember seeing Chinami eating ice cream on stage in concert — it’s times like that when I felt glad to be a Berryz wota.

48: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:55:12.90 0.net
It hasn’t been a full year yet, and yet it feels like it’s been several years since I last saw them. Well, that could also be because H!P as a whole has changed so much within the past year.

61: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 00:59:48.12 0.net
I’m glad to see Buono! restarting their activities as of late. They’re filling the hole left by Berryz Loss.

71: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 01:02:31.73 0.net
Buono! is a bit different from Berryz. I’m glad I still get to see Momo and Miya sing, but Buono! doesn’t have the same kind of feeling of euphoria as Berryz.

82: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 01:06:11.11 0.netI wish they’d at least perform one concert a year on Tanabata. Just that one day a year — I’m not asking the impossible here.

93: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 01:09:54.76 0.netI understand the feeling of Berryz Loss, but I don’t like how everyone’s always going on about how they need to make a comeback. To me it feels like it’d negate what Chinami is doing with her studies abroad, or the paths Maasa and Kumai-chan have taken, or the new thing Miya is trying to do.

113: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 01:16:26.14 0.net>>93I want them to make a comeback, but I also want them to succeed on their new paths as well. At the end of the day, if the members of Berryz are happy and having fun, that makes me happy as a wota.

215: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 01:57:18.50 0.net
Kumai-chan has gone in a completely new direction. It’ll be fun to see just how far she can make it. I’m surprised by how she already has a bunch of things lined up for her.

218: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 01:58:22.34 0.net
I sincerely hope they all make it big.

223: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 02:01:05.41 0.netBut the thing is, even if they do succeed at other things, it’ll only make me go “yay, good for them.” That’s it. Nothing more. What I most loved — what I had the most fun following as a fan — was Berryz Koubou. I just really, really loved Berryz Koubou. Seriously.

111: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 01:15:25.43 0.net
I never thought those cute little girls would end up becoming that funny — and I mean that in the positive sense of the word of course.

224: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 02:01:17.74 0.net
I never thought I’d see an H!P without Berryz, without Michishige, without even Tsunku.

237: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 02:07:53.31 0.netIt was only after they halted their activities that I realized: I’d been a fan of Berryz the group all along.

244: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 02:10:06.74 0.net>>237
Back when Berryz were still around, I was constantly looking at only my favorite member of the group. But now I understand that I liked my favorite member because she was in Berryz.

1. カラフル名無しさん 2016年01月03日 19:28 ID:ZYGhW.kh0I get this so much… But I’m glad Berryz could end with all-Tsunku songs. I feel a bit sad seeing how °C-ute is now. As there are going to be more and more non-Tsunku songs in the future, the songs everyone get are going to feel more and more different from each other. I feel like Berryz dodged a bullet with that one. Well, maybe I’m exaggerating.

3. カラフル名無しさん 2016年01月03日 19:46 ID:MtmdlUDf0
I get what you mean. I’m glad our Berryz could graduate while H!P still barely felt like H!P (if you get what I mean). H!P still sings live, and there’s still Ayacho and the members of °C-ute and stuff, but nowadays there’s nothing that sets H!P apart from any other idols out there.

2. カラフル名無しさん 2016年01月03日 19:42 ID:X.lNWyhB0
Berryz wota/Momochi oshi here. I’m glad Momochi stayed behind, but even now I’m just re-watching old Berryz Koubou clips. I loved all the other members individually, too, of course, but at the end of the day, I liked it the most when those members were all doing stuff together.

4. カラフル名無しさん 2016年01月03日 20:05 ID:utS4Xg3p0
Cuteness, coolness, and fun. Berryz Koubou combined all three things and they were the best idol group ever. There can never be a replacement to Berryz!

5. カラフル名無しさん 2016年01月03日 20:19 ID:X.lNWyhB0I feel really sad when I think about how Berryz is just going to become one of those great groups like Melon Kinenbi who most future H!P wota — or even H!P members themselves — won’t know about.

6. カラフル名無しさん 2016年01月03日 21:27 ID:d4GsUIga0
I really think Risako was the key. You can easily find out what all the other members are up to lately, but there’s nothing on Risako. Still, my Berryz Loss isn’t too bad because of the huge number of DVD’s they left behind.

230: 名無し募集中。。。 2016/01/03(日) 02:04:28.80 0.net
I don’t have much to do as of late, so I’m just going around and revisiting concert halls around the Kanto area that they performed at, trying to relive the memories.

8. カラフル名無しさん 2016年01月03日 22:00 ID:2WOSHV4i0
Weirdly enough, I now have much less of an appetite. Up until now I’d always be happily eating a lot, thinking to myself “man, Japanese rice is the best in the world.” But nowadays, I don’t even eat half a bowl. Maybe like 50g of rice or so. Everyone should try to enjoy their favorite group while they still can.

9. カラフル名無しさん 2016年01月03日 23:15 ID:Q0a9Oiwh0※8
Serious reply: be careful about your health. And to everyone else as well who just vacantly spends their days doing nothing nowadays: I do hope you take care of yourselves.

13. カラフル名無しさん 2016年01月05日 01:01 ID:Nu5.Z6yj0
I’m relieved to know I’m not the only one still going through Berryz Loss.

14. カラフル名無しさん 2016年01月07日 01:41 ID:I7l7Wl1k0Berryz Loss is not easy to describe in words. The first big thing is what >>1 mentioned: there’s the Tsunku Loss, too. Those early Berryz songs… you could look all over the world and pretty much the only person out there who could’ve written those songs is Tsunku. Is it the euphoria? Sadness? Sentimentality? I’m not sure. But there was something about Tsunku’s Berryz songs that just made your chest tighten.

And then you of course had the relationships between Berryz’ members to go with those songs. It’s like… just watching them making curry or playing cards on DVD magazines made you realize, “wow, it’s pretty amazing that I’m able to watch these girls just grow up together.“

And that, I think, was all that Tsunku really wanted to express.

It’s true that the quality of current H!P songs is still amazing. But I no longer feel that I have to follow H!P — if I did, it’d feel like I was making light of how much those times meant to me.

Mmm. I can’t really put it into words very well. I guess what I’m saying is: Berryz Koubou was one amazing group.

I think one of the reasons EbiChu is my favorite group now, is that they have a Berryz-like energy/aura about them. H!P just isn’t the same. Things change of course, but no Tsunku is the main issue here for me. I do LOVE Country Girls.& Juice=Juice however. Those two groups, to me, have the most “old H!P” flava.

I still pangs of loss. Being able to see Momochi, Miyabi, and Maasa pretty regularly helps, as well as being able to see Chinami’s cute instagrams and Yurina’s posts as well keeps my spirits up. Knowing that they’re still following their dreams makes me happy.

I’ve tried to be a fan since Berryz graduated — honestly, I have — but my heart’s not in it anymore. I used to be the kind of person who would fly across the country for a concert or sneakily schedule a group Japan vacation around when I thought a graduation might occur. Now, it’s noteworthy when I actually bother to listen to a new single more than once.

I know that the loss of Berryz might not resonate with many younger fans, who may be into idols and learn their songs and dances because they’re cool. Berryz wasn’t really that kind of group, even after they had mostly moved past fish costumes. More than anything else, Berryz was about having fun with singing, dancing, and performing, and about growing up. They performed a lot of music meant for everyone, including anime songs and dance songs the whole family could enjoy.

There’s a special energy to Berryz — I’ll extend it to pre-debut C-ute as well — that I don’t think we’ll see out of H!P again any time soon. There’s so much competition in the idol industry right now and so much is focused on making as much money as possible as efficiently as you can. I think there’s a lot of emphasis on making sure that groups are performing at a high professional level at the time of their debut and fitting groups into a marketable “mold.” There’s not much room, right now, for a crowd of kids to sing and act like a crowd of kids. With Berryz, we had that, along with a producer and songwriter who treated their imperfections and their youth as an asset.

With the way J-Pop operates I’m not really sure it’s the girls’ fault. It seemed management gave up on Berryz when they were doing well and focused big pushes on Morning Musume and C-ute, Of course it also seems the girls eventually realized it and mostly quit giving a crap too…

With the same reasons wota mentioned, I’ve not watch their final concert either. Too bad that no one mention my first oshi Saki, who brought me to this idol world :( But since i can still her from time to time, I can’t complain much

Berryz koubou was the first group I followed, but I just didn’t get the “connection” they’re talking about. When I saw the rest of H!P, the more I can’t see the appeal of berryz too.

Maybe it helps I’m not a tsunku wota, coz I didn’t appreciate the songs either. I love the live perfs, and when they sing live recently, it doesn’t appeal to me. Maybe fun songs were fun when they were younger, but recently they just felt nothing, no matter how “genius” tsunku could have been in creating that song.

To me, Berryz Koubou were okay but the percentage of the singles that I liked from them was only around fifty per cent. So, when they graduated, I was more of the mind “they had a ten year run, and now it’s time for them to move on, but at least they can do so without regrets”.

As for missing them, with Country Girls, Kobshi Factory, Tsubaki Factory, and ANGERME, there is still plenty of good music out there even if you cannot find a replacement for your number one individual idol.

I started getting into Berryz when ai wa itsumo naka ni came out… obviously that was too late :( now I’m like “I could have given them more love all these years”… that’s why I’m into Kobushi… I want to see them grow like all those Berryz fans did… and I really like all their songs without exceptions… that’s pretty rare because I’m usually very picky when it comes to music…

but I’ve always loved Buono!… especially because of Momochi and Airi… ah… who am I kidding… Miyabi is awesome, too ^^ I’m a musician and Buono always felt like a band… like LovendoR… not because of the members but the music was more rock than pop…

for years I focused on Momusu… but H!P in general is exceptional… so I don’t want to miss a single song…

Berryz was good but I never found them super funy and I guess that is what i like the most. Thats why I love momusu more everyday 9th 10th and Sakura are really funny and 12th slowly becomes better. What I liked the most from Berryz were the actual songs, Tsunku gave them some gems there.

sorry but Nope… They ran their course as an idol group and started to get stale so it was inevitable… Didnt really dislike the Berryz as a whole but they also didnt draw my attention… I kind of only rooted for Momo and the captain individually instead of rooting for the group and both of my Berryz Oshi are still in H!P in some type of way, shape or form

I joined H!P fandom several years after the beginning of Berryz. The first group I was around for at the “beginning” was S/Mileage and they have been my number 2 behind Morning Musume.’16 for a while. However, I do not pay a lot of attention to the KSS/H!P Eggs, mostly because it would be too traumatic if my favorite trainee never had her debut. So, I was not there for the absolute beginning of S/Mileage since when they had their first indy single they were completely new to me (except for Yuuka who was in High King). I guess that I will never be with an H!P group from the absolute beginning.

The loss of Berryz Koubo has been tough for me as they were my gateway into Japanese pop music and the idol world. I was initially a K-Pop fan and one day while surfing through Youtube for SNSD and BIGBANG vids, I got a suggestion to listen to Renai Rider. I loved the song and video, but found no other Buono! work worth my time. Along the way, I found Berryz vids and got totally hooked.

For a time, it was nothing but Berryz Koubo for me. If Momusu hadn’t brought on 9th Generation and s/mileage got their 2d Generation, I’d probably be back exclusively to Korean music.

I watched them grow up; they became a fixture in my J-Pop appreciation.

And now they have scattered on the wind and the page turns.

There are many groups today — even just within H!P — to succeed them… but there will never be anything to replace them.

They were admittedly an “acquired taste” but if you don’t know, now you never will.

(And I still have to roll my eyes now whenever some wota wails and gnashes their teeth over the graduation of the sole idol who is their oshii, and then through the tears they vow to abandon all things J-Pop, they swear they will never know joy again, promise to carry that torch forever, et cetera, et cetera. For ONE idol with a mere ~1200-to-1500-day career, mind you. Sigh.)

i was kinda hoping momochi and miyabi would restart Buono! as a 2-person band until C-ute finally winds up too. but with momo doing country girls fulltime, and miya creating her own group, i guess that won’t be happening.

If by “won’t be happening” you mean “Buono! has a Budokan concert scheduled for August 25th of this year, guest-starring each of the members’ main groups (including the long-awaited debut of Miya’s new one)” then yes, a Buono! reunion won’t be happening.

Buono! is and always has been a secondary unit, but it is still very much alive and kicking — if just not particularly active.