Allis Chalmers No-Til planters

What happened to the A-C No-Til planters. In the 1970"s they were considered the best of the No-Til machines, at least in the part of southern Illinois where we farmed. Did A-C lose their market when the switch was made to plateless planters?

During the time I had a dealership during the late 70's the two AC planters were the 333 no-til and the 330 full till planter the numbers basically the numbers represented 3 X 3" square bars setting on edge the units were clamped on the rear bar and could be either air or plate and since they were press wheel drive basically you could mount as many as you had room on the bar,usually you mounted the 2" fluted coulters on the front bar built to compete with the JD7000 with 2X3" bars and a lighter bar in the front to help mount fertilizer tanks or dry boxes. The planters were manufactured in Laporte Ind. at AC's Tllage Works I don't recall Yetter ever being involved with the AC planter the 333 and it's planter units have been out since the late sixties probably before John Kinzebaw was out of engineering school AC was considered the pioneer of no-till and 20" corn perhaps the victim of too smart too early much like Minnie Mo and others.

I think Yetter was involved after Duetz took over. Maybe not Yetter maybe someone else like Vermeer but I do remember seeing that chart and Deere and Allis (Duetz-Allis) used the same vender but just for building the units not the frame if I remember right.

Never made by Kinze. Allis built them until they farmed out some of the building of the planter units to Yetter as did Deere and possibly others. Allis dealer I worked at in early 90's had a chart showing who built what and who just bought entire machines from a vendor. At one time Allis built entire units for White then later White was building some parts for Allis if I remember right.

Adding to me previous reply is that when I started farming in Southern Illinois I started with a 333 no-till planter. It did a good job. I still have a 333 to no-till about 80 acres of beans each year. It still does a good job but I have to go kinda slow - about 3.5 mph.

The last I saw of them was right before Allis Chalmers became Deutsh-Allis. Then they were painted green and were completly different machine. I saw a few of them but not sure if they were then air systems.

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