I'm looking forward to Season 2. Last night I finished with S1 and it was worth it.

In this respect I like TNG-R much better than TOS-R (and everyone knows TOS rules for me). Indeed in general I don't like TOS-R. I like TNG-R because it enhanced what was already there. The fixes were minor tweaks rather than wholesale changes. It is what it has always been only with improved colour and clarity.

I'm looking forward to Season 2. Last night I finished with S1 and it was worth it.

In this respect I like TNG-R much better than TOS-R (and everyone knows TOS rules for me). Indeed in general I don't like TOS-R. I like TNG-R because it enhanced what was already there. The fixes were minor tweaks rather than wholesale changes. It is what it has always been only with improved colour and clarity.

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One of the things that originally made me skeptical about the whole remastering process was I felt that the mentality of a show just changes with the passage of time. What I mean is Star Trek was a 60's show yet it seemed like the attitude of most people was that it was out of date and should become a 2008 show. It seemed like the Star Trek remastering took away some of that 60s feel and the respect for a show done at that time was lost.

I didn't feel that for TNG Things still looked like the show was done in the 80s/90s, things just got cleaned up. Of course I wonder what we will be doing, say, 10 years from now when something greater than HD comes along (Like holograms or something) but I like the idea of remastering a show but still respecting the time and technology of when it was originally done.

The "Webster" episode would be great too, but I doubt that would happen due to rights and royalties. Either way, I'd be interested in seeing a copy of the episode. I couldn't find it on dvd or online anywhere though.

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A possible factor in favor of "Webtrek" is that it's also a Paramount production. I would think that would ease the process somewhat. Wishful thinking, probably.

I love the idea of including this on the blu-ray. Especially since the episode is apparently a clip-show itself, the dream sequence on the Enterprise with Worf used as the framing device. What better way to respond to longstanding complains about "Shades of Grey" than by adding ANOTHER clip show to the set! In any case, I *think* chronologically it belongs with the second season, but since I haven't even seen a screen shot for all I know Worf is still in his red uniform (dating it 1st season).

I've wanted to see this for many years, despite the complete certainty that it will be awful (I had a similar fascination with the Star Wars Holiday Special). I've been frustrated to never found a copy online. Surely some obsessive Trek fan recorded this on VHS when it was originally broadcast could convert and upload a copy! Somehow I suspect the rights holders aren't prioritizing stamping out Webster copyright violations.

Over the last year or so, Shout Factory has been releasing full season sets of the show, but this initiative may have stalled out as of the 4th season(though they are releasing a best of set, it doesn't seem to include Webtrek). This might be just as well, as I don't know if I can bring myself to buy an entire season of Webster, just for the sake of satisfying my morbid curiosity. But at least it would have put a digitalized version of the episode "out there."

There is another set out there that claims to feature the entire series, but my best guess is that it's a bootleg.

Here's some wild speculation. What if CBS can't release the episode because of the Webster rights issues, but Shout Factory also can't release it due to the Star Trek rights issues? In that case, wouldn't you think a mutually beneficial deal could be worked out where both sides agreed to let each other include it in their respective sets?

While I still find this season a miss, it is an improvement in my view. The writing is a little sharper, the acting is better, the characters more defined, and the production is overall sharper (as it should get after its first year). And as much as I love TOS, TNG shouldn't be TOS, and this season moves further away from TOS (especially the look), heck just in the costume department the break is huge.

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Yeah I'd agree. As great as some episodes were in the first season, there was still this cornball, "gee whiz" feel to the whole thing, like they were aiming it more towards a younger audience or something.

But in the second season you can feel the tone getting a bit more serious and adult, and the characters seemed to act more like actual professionals (who are less prone to saying things like "Woo-eee!", for example).

^I'm assuming they were trying to make LaForge into that Cowboy type character in the first season because what we got from him in that season is so different than what came later. I'm glad they realized this wasn't working and turned him a bit more serious. I also think making him Chief Engineer was the best thing to happen to the character.

I'm looking forward to Season 2. Last night I finished with S1 and it was worth it.

In this respect I like TNG-R much better than TOS-R (and everyone knows TOS rules for me). Indeed in general I don't like TOS-R. I like TNG-R because it enhanced what was already there. The fixes were minor tweaks rather than wholesale changes. It is what it has always been only with improved colour and clarity.

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I'd agree with that, and I don't even have a problem with TOS-R's CGI - I'm just more interested in what TNG-R is doing.

While I still find this season a miss, it is an improvement in my view. The writing is a little sharper, the acting is better, the characters more defined, and the production is overall sharper (as it should get after its first year).

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I'd argue that there are episodes in TNG's second season that can be considered among the best of the show's run. That's more than I could say for any episode of the first season, and I am fond of that year.

Contagion is, in deed, a good episode. And, yeah, The Royale would make for a good crowd/"riffing" experience. It's an episode I enjoy as well. But, again, I think Q-Who and Measure of a Man are most likely. If not Q-Who then I'm not sure what, but Measure of a Man's extended edition I would say is almost a certainty.

It's really cool to see the enterprise's sister ship and I always wished we could see more of Captain Donald Varley. The guy who played him seemed like a fine actor! He made me care about him and his ship with a few logs.

I also always wanted to see more about the Iconians. They seemed like badasses. I haven't yet seen the DS9 episode that references them, but I plan on it soon. (Actually I probably did see it years ago but forgot all about it)

It's really cool to see the enterprise's sister ship and I always wished we could see more of Captain Donald Varley. The guy who played him seemed like a fine actor! He made me care about him and his ship with a few logs.

I also always wanted to see more about the Iconians. They seemed like badasses. I haven't yet seen the DS9 episode that references them, but I plan on it soon. (Actually I probably did see it years ago but forgot all about it)

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From what little we see of the Yamato I like how it seemed like a crappier version of the Enterprise. It didn't have the wood railing and the Ready Room seemed a bit less posh.

It's really cool to see the enterprise's sister ship and I always wished we could see more of Captain Donald Varley. The guy who played him seemed like a fine actor! He made me care about him and his ship with a few logs.

I also always wanted to see more about the Iconians. They seemed like badasses. I haven't yet seen the DS9 episode that references them, but I plan on it soon. (Actually I probably did see it years ago but forgot all about it)

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From what little we see of the Yamato I like how it seemed like a crappier version of the Enterprise. It didn't have the wood railing and the Ready Room seemed a bit less posh.

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Don't forget that in the later seasons and DS9 we always saw the other galaxies with the Voyager bench seat.

One of the things I like about Season 2 is that it's a nice mixture: we were getting new ideas and new Trek adventures yet it still had something of a TOS resonance to it. Plus it was generally a lot more polished than S1.

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...And as much as I love TOS, TNG shouldn't be TOS, and this season moves further away from TOS (especially the look), heck just in the costume department the break is huge.

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I didn't say it was like TOS I said it resonated with it and nothing wrong with that. And as the franchise lost that resonance over time they also lost me as a viewer.

For me the early TNG seasons (1-4) were like that off-and-on, but then I didn't care anymore. There'd be the occasional decent DS9 episode and the rest was disposable. After that for me it ceased being Star Trek anymore, particularly VOY, ENT and ST09.

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I was actually responding about the Stronger production elements of TNG over its second year, better realized characters, actors who have a far better idea of who those characters are thus stronger performances, better set dressing, an fx team that was vastly better suited for new fx, better week to week art design.

I mention the costume department due to the change from Theiss who's style was still very much similar TOS, too close for me.

And it's funny my whole family watched Trek from the original broadcast days of TOS, and the majority of my family found ENT to be the closest in spirit (generally I agree, though that doesn't mean I think the series is great, though I seem to like its first two seasons better then TNG first two seasons).

For myself, there are three episodes in the 2nd season that are good enough that I would actually recommend them to others (generally what i would call an A- or better episode) to view (which is an improvement to season one) and has about six other episodes I like, but have enough issues that make me keep them in the above average to to fair category.

It's really cool to see the enterprise's sister ship and I always wished we could see more of Captain Donald Varley. The guy who played him seemed like a fine actor! He made me care about him and his ship with a few logs.

I also always wanted to see more about the Iconians. They seemed like badasses. I haven't yet seen the DS9 episode that references them, but I plan on it soon. (Actually I probably did see it years ago but forgot all about it)

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From what little we see of the Yamato I like how it seemed like a crappier version of the Enterprise. It didn't have the wood railing and the Ready Room seemed a bit less posh.

It's really cool to see the enterprise's sister ship and I always wished we could see more of Captain Donald Varley. The guy who played him seemed like a fine actor! He made me care about him and his ship with a few logs.

I also always wanted to see more about the Iconians. They seemed like badasses. I haven't yet seen the DS9 episode that references them, but I plan on it soon. (Actually I probably did see it years ago but forgot all about it)

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From what little we see of the Yamato I like how it seemed like a crappier version of the Enterprise. It didn't have the wood railing and the Ready Room seemed a bit less posh.

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It did have the wood railing.

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It did, but it was covered by a gray/green blanket or fabric. I always found that very odd: