OP I hope you get a chance to watch this if u haven't seen it already. It describes exactly what ur saying. This ex FBI agent explains his findings. From what I understand he was later "disappeared". It's long but the first 15 mins explain a lot.

Just imagine what happens on remote islands. There's some crazy people out there with so much money that no laws apply to them. I hate to think whats going on at any given moment in these remote places.

[This realization alone could create massive depression among the populace.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41507195

It already is. Soon there is nothing to do but pace back and forth in too small a space, waiting to die

Quoting: zenobiaphobia

That seems to be the direction most people want to go. They're very comfortable with their heads in the sand.

Hopefully it won't go that way though....

Time will tell how the people will react.

If they don't move to fix the problems we have, I'll be packing my bags.

Last thing to keep in mind, is that with technology like this, there's not much time left to fix this problem. Once they have the control they desire with technology, resistance of any sort will be a joke. Moore's Law aint helping.

If you're a scientist or programmer and you're helping develop more powerful technologies, could you start sniffing glue or something? We need to slow this down.

Quoting: MagTog

agree, i've said that for awhile that technology is growing too fast bc ethics and morals need to develop alongside it and that hasn't seemed to be the case.

where will you move to if you leave the USA?

Quoting: m&m's

BINGO! RIGHT ON!Ethics and Morals are the key to all of this!

Imagine what it would (will?) be like when they develop tech to increase our mental performance, turning normal people into a kind of superhumans that can perform the tasks of 10 of their peers at once.

The problem with that scenario is not simply the difference of power between the "improved" humans and the soon-to-be-SUB-humans. The biggest problem in my mind is that experiential knowledge (wisdom) cannot be developed at the same rate as the tech will allow the rest of the brain to improve.

You'll have a shload of people with incredible power, but with the morals, ethics, and wisdom of infants.

Such activities (rape, murder, abduction) are not something you conduct with other people. Therefore, a search for conversations referring to these activities will be rife with false leads.

The NSA predominantly acts as a data collection service on behalf of other intelligence agencies. However, the NSA is unable to cooporate with the FBI because it is the country's internal police force and technically the NSA is not supposed to be gathering such data on US citizens/residents.

Secondly, because the information was collected via means that are not entirely legal, the charges would have to be dismissed by the courts by way of illegal search and seizure.

Quoting: NSA

Intel is intel. It doesn't need to make it to trial. It can be used to help aid investigations.

Imagine they know exactly who did it at the NSA level, but local PD can't figure it out. If the NSA just showed the intel to the PD, the PD then could feel completely confident they are going after the right guy and not waste time on others - or let innocents be charged with crimes they did not commit.

Then the PD could focus on gathering evidence that they COULD use in court, of which there should still be plenty.

OP I hope you get a chance to watch this if u haven't seen it already. It describes exactly what ur saying. This ex FBI agent explains his findings. From what I understand he was later "disappeared". It's long but the first 15 mins explain a lot.

That doesnt include any foster care kids who get "lost" or any murdered children who are NOT "reported".

mkultra jerry lee lewis branch of incest bred town called seward NEBRASKA... where the pedophile judge Fred (also of omaha) and pedophile donald shook (dead in tacoma) were such great kiddy porn fiends... they were young pedophiles back when the WWII "orphan trains" rolled thru town back decades ago before JohnnyGnosh was even born.

So yeah they never find raped children. With those numbers of missing kids over many decades we all should be tripping over tiny skeletons.

OP I hope you get a chance to watch this if u haven't seen it already. It describes exactly what ur saying. This ex FBI agent explains his findings. From what I understand he was later "disappeared". It's long but the first 15 mins explain a lot.

It already is. Soon there is nothing to do but pace back and forth in too small a space, waiting to die

Quoting: zenobiaphobia

That seems to be the direction most people want to go. They're very comfortable with their heads in the sand.

Hopefully it won't go that way though....

Time will tell how the people will react.

If they don't move to fix the problems we have, I'll be packing my bags.

Last thing to keep in mind, is that with technology like this, there's not much time left to fix this problem. Once they have the control they desire with technology, resistance of any sort will be a joke. Moore's Law aint helping.

If you're a scientist or programmer and you're helping develop more powerful technologies, could you start sniffing glue or something? We need to slow this down.

Quoting: MagTog

agree, i've said that for awhile that technology is growing too fast bc ethics and morals need to develop alongside it and that hasn't seemed to be the case.

where will you move to if you leave the USA?

Quoting: m&m's

BINGO! RIGHT ON!Ethics and Morals are the key to all of this!

Imagine what it would (will?) be like when they develop tech to increase our mental performance, turning normal people into a kind of superhumans that can perform the tasks of 10 of their peers at once.

The problem with that scenario is not simply the difference of power between the "improved" humans and the soon-to-be-SUB-humans. The biggest problem in my mind is that experiential knowledge (wisdom) cannot be developed at the same rate as the tech will allow the rest of the brain to improve.

You'll have a shload of people with incredible power, but with the morals, ethics, and wisdom of infants.

Quoting: MagTog

Hahahaha

What's the matter? Scared of infants? Infants got you on the run? Where are you going to run to...chester big boy?

"Ga ga goo goo?"

Jeremiah 1[4] Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,[5] Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.[6] Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, I cannot speak: for I am a child.[7] But the LORD said unto me, Say not, I am a child: for thou shalt go to all that I shall send thee, and whatsoever I command thee thou shalt speak.[8] Be not afraid of their faces: for I am with thee to deliver thee, saith the LORD.[9] Then the LORD put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the LORD said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.[10] See, I have this day set thee over the nations and over the kingdoms, to root out, and to pull down, and to destroy, and to throw down, to build, and to plant.

Intel is intel. It doesn't need to make it to trial. It can be used to help aid investigations.

Quoting: MagTog

Again, the NSA doesn't actually investigate the stuff. It just makes the data available to the likes of other intelligence services. That's part of the whole "Nobody is listening to your phone calls" thing, because to a great extent--no one is. They're just stored for subsequent automatic and human analysis in the event that it becomes necessary.

Intel is intel. It doesn't need to make it to trial. It can be used to help aid investigations.

Quoting: MagTog

Again, the NSA doesn't actually investigate the stuff. It just makes the data available to the likes of other intelligence services. That's part of the whole "Nobody is listening to your phone calls" thing, because to a great extent--no one is. They're just stored for subsequent automatic and human analysis in the event that it becomes necessary.

The police aren't permitted to access this data.

Quoting: NSA

Could they ask the NSA for the cliffnotes on the crimes?

Or is there anyone in the NSA that cares enough to look in to crimes and help resolve them?

Here is simply a suggestion, stop using a phone(you will love yourself), absolutely DON'T use social media, and no email.

Use internet as a library of Alex.

Really.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41518168

And you think suddenly dropping off the grid won't attract any attention? Even if it isn't sudden or you've been off the grid your whole life, if you don't have a digital footprint it would have to elicit some sort of response, otherwise the system is flawed. In fact this whole whistleblower leak may be designed to trigger people who are scared of govt to suddenly drop out, thus creating a list of suspicious persons. I think your best bet is to live your life as always, assuming you aren't up to no good. Don't fight unwinnable battles.

OP I hope you get a chance to watch this if u haven't seen it already. It describes exactly what ur saying. This ex FBI agent explains his findings. From what I understand he was later "disappeared". It's long but the first 15 mins explain a lot.

this vid is from the 80s. you understand wrong about Ted Gunderson being disappeared. he died a couple of years ago at around age 80 of cancer, after a long illness.

i didn't watch this vid this time, i've seen it before. he made many appearances over many years.

Gunderson really was FBI when it meant something, and he stayed busy for many more years as a private sleuth and a champion of those forgotten or railroaded.

i've never known what to think about that case he discusses in his opening--Gunderson always relied on that one girl's assertion about the night at the doctor's house, but she was not stable enough to be a reliable witness about an insane incident. that story has always been surreal, and likely will remain so.

OP I hope you get a chance to watch this if u haven't seen it already. It describes exactly what ur saying. This ex FBI agent explains his findings. From what I understand he was later "disappeared". It's long but the first 15 mins explain a lot.

this vid is from the 80s. you understand wrong about Ted Gunderson being disappeared. he died a couple of years ago at around age 80 of cancer, after a long illness.

i didn't watch this vid this time, i've seen it before. he made many appearances over many years.

Gunderson really was FBI when it meant something, and he stayed busy for many more years as a private sleuth and a champion of those forgotten or railroaded.

i've never known what to think about that case he discusses in his opening--Gunderson always relied on that one girl's assertion about the night at the doctor's house, but she was not stable enough to be a reliable witness about an insane incident. that story has always been surreal, and likely will remain so.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36539884

Was that the young Dr who discovered drugs being shipped inside the corpses of vietnam soldiers? They killed his family to shut him up. Yes dead soldiers were stuffed with drugs from the golden triangle for shipment to the USA. Many years later Pat Tillman was murdered- opium poppies.

The now adult then children of McMartian Rapeschool still tell about the sexual abuse and "tunnels" and animal sacrifices. The "false memory" folks who covered that up have been exposed for their pedophilia. Gunderson also called chemtrails the "death dumps" and died shortly thereafter.