This really bothers me, and I've been in a similar situation as the guy in the article... Land is expensive, I can only afford a trailer home, which I rent. I'd love to live off my own land, grow vegetables and fruit and be self-sufficient. If the fruit or vegetables don't get enough water, if they die, does anyone care? I don't have land, but I still have a farm. My gerbils, the guinea pigs, cats, and bunnies, they sustain me. I give them food (sometimes), they reproduce, and then I have nutrients to feed the misses and I over the winter. Some of them don't do so well. Some die in a corner, under a pile of laundry or errant foot, is it really that different from a row of corn? I'm doing what I can to get by, trying to have kids that can help me tend to the farm, same as the guy in the article. How can I ever make it ahead if they keep stripping me and the misses (I call her our "VP") from our employees?

xanadian:Car_Ramrod: There's got to be a better way to handle these kind of cases. Not completing high school has been shown over and over again to have a huge impact on someone's future. His story was basically written from there.

This is pretty much what I'm stuck on. They doomed him from the get-go. Blame Canada, indeed.

TFA: They've had other problems at home too, with authorities in 2010 seizing around 30 animals from their house. They removed gerbils, mice, rats, snakes, dogs (including one that was in such bad health it had to be put down) and cats.

Ahh Lanark county and the ottawa valley... It's the Deep South of Ontario. You know the place where most family trees don't branch. I taught HS out there for a few years. Half the kids were good hard working farm kids... The other half were related :)

jvl:Lionel Mandrake: jvl: The One True TheDavid: I say reproduction and child-rearing should be regarded as separate things and both should be strictly licensed and overseen. At least we ought to be able to have people like this sterilized.

I think morons should be sterilized.

Who determines who is a "moron?"

Judges?

I decide. I am the law. Also, those who I a delegate my power to, occasionally for a small fee.

trust me when I say this, Canada's child services ministry is a sewer filled withthe types of social workers who SHOULD NOT be in a position to judge who are fit parents and who are not. The govnmt needs to stay the fark out of our lives and homes.

Without further information on what he did when he was 12, this has got to be one of the most f**ked up situations ever. This seems to be sexual offender laws completely out of control and insane.

A pre-teen will experiment sexually. That's a fact. Especially, boys.

But his record shows otherwise, with him having been convicted of sexual assault, invitation to sexual touching, assault with a weapon, sexual interference and uttering threats.

Knowing the American Judicial System, the 'weapon' could have been a Nerf gun. (Yes. I know the case involves the Canadian Judicial System.) Kids are always threatening each other. Kids used to pelt each other with rocks, sticks and nearly anything else they could lay their hands on. A favorite was a hardened clump of dirt. When I was in school, nearly every boy carried a pocket knife. All of the adults knew it -- and had their own.

After that incident, from what I can tell, the legal system pretty well f**ked him up thoroughly. He was isolated and ostracized. Any shrink will tell you what happens to a person, especially a kid, when they are treated like that. The chances are very high that, actually, he's not a real sex offender. He was just a horny, curious kid. However, their legal system has been working for decades to turn him into a psychopath -- which they can then blame on his previous history, the majority of which they caused, and toss him in jail for life.

Everything that I read that they consider bad can have come from the way he's been treated for most of his life. I've known many a 'bad' kid turn their lives around after school, especially once they got married and had kids. Suddenly, they're average citizens. They're keeping jobs, knocked off the dope, stopped the partying and decided that living like a pig was no longer fun.

Ostracize them, like they've done to this guy, and you're begging for a career criminal.

They're punishing his wife also. I don't recall anything being brought up about her record. However, treating him like krap will affect her also. So, they're punishing her, a potential innocent party, for something he might do.

BTW. Non-sex offenders have lived in much worse conditions with more than one kid and no one gives a shiat. We've got homeless families on the street whose kids main meals come from the free lunch program at a school. And we have city leaders who decide to stop charities from providing them with easily accessed meals because 'it encourages them to hang around the neighborhood and businesses complain'.

If he has not offended since he was 12, especially after having to live basically like Lepers used to be treated, and blacks during the time of legal discrimination and segregation, then I figure he aint gonna.

He has attitude concerning psychological tests? I'm not surprised.

Sex seems to be the only 'crime' we hold against kids from the time they're able to become aroused until they die of old age. Even murder is not held so strictly against them. Actually, with any other crime, their juvenile records are sealed, meaning only law enforcement can access them.Not everyone in any city they choose to live in -- which is what is happening to this guy.

I don't know his crime but I can tell you that 75% of what folks used to consider sexual experimentation among kids and nothing to get fanatical about, is NOW criminal. Under today's laws, 90% of my graduating high school class would be considered sex offenders.

That might come as a shock to those who are now lawyers, politicians, businessmen and women, parents, grandparents, physicians and scientists. Even those who are the basic hard working stiffs that provide most of the labor in the nation. Some are in law enforcement also.

At least 60% of you FARKers, as kids, due to your exploratory actions as pre-teens or even teens, can be considered sex offenders also. Got kids? A high percentage of them could fit the bill too. Kids will often learn about sex via same sex comparison. It's not homosexuality. It's not 'dirty'. However, today it's a CRIME!

Geez! I thought only the Americans were fanatically insane concerning sex and the legal system. I see now that Canada is just as bad, if not worse.

I'm not defending the guy, just trying to point out that the article sucks. There is a chance(as I mentioned in another post) that he just played doctor with a buddy, and then threatened him if he told anybody. Just going off the straight charges is never good, especially in this new era of registering everyone as a sex offender.

The guy was a raving psycho. He butchered 400 chickens and screwed a beagle. I hope they takie him back to Nevada where he's wanted for banging horses.

"He's now an unemployed labourer currently living under house arrest at a roadside motel."

After all the other atrocities in his history, all I needed to read was this to understand why they took his child away. There's nothing wrong with being temporarily unemployed but i doubt that's the case here. He insists he hasn't done anything wrong since his youth-diddling youth. Why is he currently under house arrest while lacking the house?

I know a couple who is going to have their fifth child sometime this year and it will be taken within 30 minutes of birth just like the last one was and the one before that was taken because one of them gave the one month old infant a black eye. I mean after the second or third kid being taken it'd be nice to be able to have these assholes sterilized.

Because of his sex crimes, he was banned from attending high school and instead took correspondence courses, alone at the kitchen table in the group home. He gave up after Grade 9. "You'd think they'd want me interacting with other human beings, learning how to act properly and respect people."

"And in other news, four pre-teens were arrested and charged as adults in possession of child pornograhy for sexting each other....."

Car_Ramrod:There's got to be a better way to handle these kind of cases. Not completing high school has been shown over and over again to have a huge impact on someone's future. His story was basically written from there.

This is pretty much what I'm stuck on. They doomed him from the get-go. Blame Canada, indeed.