we're the season with a Rb situation thats almost as scary as it was at the end of last season.

WJB is right...there was a certain RB we REALLY needed to pursue this offseason.

WJB wasnt the only 1 calling for Michael Bush (and assorted others) from day 1, but it was something he was correct about.

kdsberman wrote:

I was reading some fantasy football WR rankings, and this particular site had them broken into tiers, with Calvin having his OWN tier....called the Megatron Tier. Hell yes.

You just made my signature.... and I don't even like Fantasy Football.

August 3rd, 2012, 2:41 am

LionsAllDay

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Re: Training Camp 2012

DJ-B wrote:

regularjoe12 wrote:

we're the season with a Rb situation thats almost as scary as it was at the end of last season.

WJB is right...there was a certain RB we REALLY needed to pursue this offseason.

WJB wasnt the only 1 calling for Michael Bush (and assorted others) from day 1, but it was something he was correct about.

kdsberman wrote:

I was reading some fantasy football WR rankings, and this particular site had them broken into tiers, with Calvin having his OWN tier....called the Megatron Tier. Hell yes.

You just made my signature.... and I don't even like Fantasy Football.

Now looking back on it, he would've been a great pick up. He's basically what LT was with the Jets in 2009, past his prime but still very productive and able to start and carry the load. Would've solidified our run game.

August 3rd, 2012, 3:19 am

m2karateman

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Re: Training Camp 2012

While you guys sit there and point the finger at the backs and think they must be upgraded to produce a run game, the rest of us will point at the offensive line with the understanding that the changes need to take place there to improve the running game.

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August 3rd, 2012, 9:03 am

regularjoe12

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Re: Training Camp 2012

m2karateman wrote:

While you guys sit there and point the finger at the backs and think they must be upgraded to produce a run game, the rest of us will point at the offensive line with the understanding that the changes need to take place there to improve the running game.

while that is true...this is starting to look like we are going to need to be pulling RB's off the street again! no matter how bad the o line is, this is a situation that is by far worse! we wont catch lightning in a bottle twice a pull another RB off the street who gets a 100 yard game. You have to have both a RB and an O Line. Our oline is adequate (barely at times) our running backs are all too injury prone and 2 out of the 3 may not start the season?? YIKES

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August 3rd, 2012, 9:31 am

kdsberman

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Re: Training Camp 2012

m2karateman wrote:

While you guys sit there and point the finger at the backs and think they must be upgraded to produce a run game, the rest of us will point at the offensive line with the understanding that the changes need to take place there to improve the running game.

Agree with this. Adding a different RB might improve the run game slightly, but its the O-line that makes the holes.

August 3rd, 2012, 9:34 am

kdsberman

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Re: Training Camp 2012

DJ-B wrote:

You just made my signature.... and I don't even like Fantasy Football.

We all know the O-line can be upgraded, but if taking a franchise LT in the 1st doesn't quiet the doubters, what will?

_________________"Good teams don't worry about a whole lot of stuff. They travel, they play, they win. And it doesn't matter where they go, what the time block is, all those kinds of things. They never seem to bother teams that play well, and we want to be one of those teams." -Jim Caldwell

August 3rd, 2012, 12:18 pm

m2karateman

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We all know the O-line can be upgraded, but if taking a franchise LT in the 1st doesn't quiet the doubters, what will?

How about getting a center and right guard?

Oh, and it remains to be seen if Reiff will be a franchise LT in the NFL. Personally, I hope he can be. But with his pick, the Lions sought to improve the strongest spot on the offensive line, in my opinion. It needed to be done, no doubt. But it won't improve the offensive line all that much this season.

_________________I will not put on blinders when it comes to our QBs performances.

We all know the O-line can be upgraded, but if taking a franchise LT in the 1st doesn't quiet the doubters, what will?

How about getting a center and right guard?

Oh, and it remains to be seen if Reiff will be a franchise LT in the NFL. Personally, I hope he can be. But with his pick, the Lions sought to improve the strongest spot on the offensive line, in my opinion. It needed to be done, no doubt. But it won't improve the offensive line all that much this season.

I agree... I don't see why we're drafting replacement players and ignoring holes, especially considering there was a much higher rated OG available, and we've had a hole at OG for YEARS. This OL hasn't had two capable OGs since... Wow... Probably since Barry left...

That said, M2, I agree with you about the OL, but it's looking more and more like we're not even going to have NFL caliber backs. I honestly wouldn't mind Benson (I would have preferred Bush, but I'd take Benson), but what money are we going to use to sign him with?

We all know the O-line can be upgraded, but if taking a franchise LT in the 1st doesn't quiet the doubters, what will?

How about getting a center and right guard?

Oh, and it remains to be seen if Reiff will be a franchise LT in the NFL. Personally, I hope he can be. But with his pick, the Lions sought to improve the strongest spot on the offensive line, in my opinion. It needed to be done, no doubt. But it won't improve the offensive line all that much this season.

Exactly. Reiff is said to be working with the third team, so he is struggling a bit, but I personally think he'll turn out to be a B+ grade LT.

Hypothetically, if Avril is cut next offseason, contract-wise, we'd be able to get a good guard/center for $5-6 million and a replacement for Avril for $4-5 million a year. So we'd have a still-dominant defensive line, a offensive line that can block for runningbacks, and be able to focus on DBs in the draft to avoid big contracts.

August 3rd, 2012, 1:40 pm

thelomasbrowns

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Re: Training Camp 2012

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Lions RapidReports ‏@CBSSportsNFLDETCB Bill Bentley may be the value pick of DET's draft. 3rd rd pick. Kid's done nothing but make plays...and then more plays.

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Lions RapidReports ‏@CBSSportsNFLDETEverrtte Brown a constant figure on 2nd team DL. If he keeps up his solid play, he could prove to be a key value depth add.

_________________"Good teams don't worry about a whole lot of stuff. They travel, they play, they win. And it doesn't matter where they go, what the time block is, all those kinds of things. They never seem to bother teams that play well, and we want to be one of those teams." -Jim Caldwell

August 3rd, 2012, 4:25 pm

LionsAllDay

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Re: Training Camp 2012

thelomasbrowns wrote:

Quote:

Lions RapidReports ‏@CBSSportsNFLDETCB Bill Bentley may be the value pick of DET's draft. 3rd rd pick. Kid's done nothing but make plays...and then more plays.

Quote:

Lions RapidReports ‏@CBSSportsNFLDETEverrtte Brown a constant figure on 2nd team DL. If he keeps up his solid play, he could prove to be a key value depth add.

Dwight Bentley, Patrick Edwards, and Tahir Whitehead have all been said to have been impressing so far. Also, an undrafted WR Lance Long has been said to have been doing great so far. How many good WRs can we have?

August 3rd, 2012, 4:37 pm

regularjoe12

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Re: Training Camp 2012

wasn't Bentley the Midget....er REALLY short guy? like 5' 8" or am i mixing him up with one of the other 2 CB's we drafted?

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August 3rd, 2012, 4:39 pm

Pablo

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Re: Training Camp 2012

regularjoe12 wrote:

wasn't Bentley the Midget....er REALLY short guy? like 5' 8" or am i mixing him up with one of the other 2 CB's we drafted?

Bently is short, I believe he is listed around 5'9" or 5'10". We only drafted one other CB, Greenwood, who has good height for a CB around 6'1" or 6'2".

wasn't Bentley the Midget....er REALLY short guy? like 5' 8" or am i mixing him up with one of the other 2 CB's we drafted?

Bently is short, I believe he is listed around 5'9" or 5'10". We only drafted one other CB, Greenwood, who has good height for a CB around 6'1" or 6'2".

Ok Bentley is who I thought it was. everything I read about the kid basically screamed he would have been first round tallent had he been built like an actual football player. Hopefully he has a little Barry in him and his height doesn't afflict him too often. Everything (and I mean EVRYTHING) said he can flat out play.