The domestic textile industry and apparel importers have often been on opposite sides of U.S. trade issues, but in today’s political climate they seem to have found some common ground–what they see as the confusing and corrosive policies of President Trump and his administration.

In a debate at the United States Fashion Industry Association (USFIA) Apparel Importers Trade & Transportation conference in New York on Wednesday, USFIA president Julia K. Hughes and Augustine Tantillo, president of the National Council of Textile Organizations, faced off in what would have been a more contentious debate in years past.