Web Piracy Bill Loses Momentum

1/17/2012 1:00PM

A web antipiracy bill loses momentum as the White House sides with internet companies and consumers. Plus, Wikipedia threatens to go black in protest, a look at the next phase of online retail, and developers rush to code every Facebook action. Photo: AP.

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I clearly that the goal of the people who are pushing this bill is the shutdown these ... rogue sites over she's on the question is whether ... whether they go to foreign Yuasa Vernon those ... messages the discussion of the economic impact of this internet company saying a word you were growing were a big part of the economy ... whereas the ... content creators say Hey ... if you don't protect us were a big part of American economy America's economy as well ... so what I really into thinking and from eating watching that the progress that this ... is actually Bennie and ... the fact I can think that was mentioned in that close friend Amy's story now is about cybersecurity and I think that ... relieved from the tech ... for the tech community and ... give the people I'm Katarina at bay ingenious in separate this is ... really one is that most disturbing question that I've heard from them ... um ... and it's basically that the end of this in the ad censorship ... art auctions are set that you know ... what everyone college some people say that the steps of the of St ... just regulation ... but the way that you prevent people from getting to the site is that if ... you would use the web address into your browser ... that kind of links up with a whole bunch of plant numbers incentive points and that in ... the way that the system would work with e Bay you with that ... can it to people that in a certain way and that the thing is that this ad in DC we now have that at ... the working of the weather just isn't thinking the hackers use to check you into going to malicious sites ... and basically if you're saying that ... the US government is supporting this sort of ... the things that are supposed to protect Webster prayers by not allowing this disabling to happen ... with the really work anymore so you would actually open up a lot and and security problems ... even as here technically it down on these Weds and so basically it's it's it's an answer and so the haka has been on the recall prevail ... so you know to do things that are almost identical to what ideas do what you just sat right ... around the Nikolic and yes yes but not the reason we blocking but thanks to the same way that happens a lot less safe and said this ... 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I think the unique challenge on minute wonder holding inspiration ... you better be on that ... and I think women walk walk then says the BBC now I'm not lying ... on the ALP's not intended to be a brand commercial bright win and winning Valuewalk and Tiffany is much is the value inspiration ... and we just a little time left but I'm keen ... to mean that of ... that year and its ... your ... business and Cummins is this just sort of regular ... merchandising business or do you have to have you get these BP is still a boy and a couple things in Ottawa and what what you think they enjoyed the videos that allow you to dish with the monthly walk shop in and share them with their friends ... the reality is that this be the businesses we think add three new merchandising platform for ... vendors and we talents ... so if you're a vendor or a retailer branded BBQ that I can see how to really ... tell the story if your product what better way to do any of the week the joys offers a brand new acquisition channel ... for merchants in from France and one when Lee any money they can channel for video why think about the deal is advertising EQT performance and I ... would also be use it we like to think that the thing that I wish we had more time to get a good place to the generosity of and in asking the question but thank you Brian much becomes a student Singh Cassidy of joy said good luck with your up with your website while CVS is opening up it's like to ... make as bad and ... developers are rushing and as well ... to ... combine U S open graph Apple will tell you all about that after the break ... with that with more Digits aunt WS J live all the mothers are getting ready this the Facebook about every action you say will have that shortly but let's see this opens up its like to ask my cousin ago Russell Adams the on the set to tells all about this ... and I think the key here is a fantasy Global honor right ... that's right ... the ... fantasy sports industry traditionally has been sort of the niche ... market where ... the target audience is the sense that success ... sports night ... um but over the years it's become sort of more and more mainstream that appeals to a broad audience is a very important drivers not only attracted to ... some websites but also of more fans to leave so ... the problem for the key for the players that ... operate in this fantasy spirit make money off of it is that that ... the world is scattered over hundreds and hundreds of websites ... and as a result it's very hard for anyone ... sites ... to make a lot of money because when you're in a fantasy leading anti negated By Sterne and analysis ... you if you want that sort of scattering to a bunch of different websites and is part of the sites to keep somebody on one ... particular side ... so how does any of handling that's what exactly are they doing so almost two years ago CBS made the calculation that ... time the best way to ... to serve capture and keep this audience was this would take a page from Apple's and Facebook ... book and open up its platform to ... serve bring all of these mom and pop operations were there offering ... schools and other analysis for fantasy players ... premium on to their platform ... and allow them to create games and to create schools and ... other products so that ... where is ... typically now you go to CBS Sports dot com to run your league in a new ... scatter elsewhere to get in fights ... they can keep even ... the duty to not a foot of the deal still read a hundred billion is I'm yuan Fen is the dams unrelated products and Namibian dollars that's that's that's the that's a lot of money ... could go and sit CBS Sports will come and show was about seventeen point six million ... unique visitors of Oman ... ALM that that that's the average ... that put some money six ... six points which is pretty in the second ... everybody else left so I'm that's why what's not yours ... is this designed to somehow get a ... look back ... yet exactly I mean the CVS for Starcom has like a lot of ... players in this online sports world ... playdates are good ... are also ran to ... two major players in this business is ESPN dot com and Yahoo Sports ... ESPN obviously has the ... power of the network behind and a lot of resources to try and and Yahoo Sports has the portal ... a lot of people come to Yahoo Sports to the US report so ... it's hard for these other players to compete against the idea ... instead it will save that was that there were some good ones and was the was ... fun watching a new venture by DRAM much Russell Adams all the Wall Street don't check out the story I'm WS J ... dot com ... well Apple is about to give a lesson in textbooks is about making sexy up with Sharp Tipton to tells all about it ... so when Apple gets in the game is usually on bad news for AEIS Aman sounds of the of the previous fall but I'm ... we don't know this but expected to make an announcement this week were expected to announce whether expected to announce that they're that tech stocks are at the optimize for the I pad ... for seven to sing digital like a PDF present ... that they can actually interact with them ... um ... of course you know it's it's un certain exactly what they're going to announce that the apple but that's that's kind of what's expected ... and as well as I know that ... that ... partnerships with publishers ... so what does that mean there have been some textbooks I forgot I had previously I've ever heard of any second guessing them in their class still ... is the big difference here ... you know the full partnerships that ... I think the partnerships but also just more interactive ... and I think a lot of the I pad ... to ... Texas that you have now is mostly dislike the PDF for Jane yet it's it's just additional copies so it's like you're in the text but ... a sector reading on your I've had and I think they wanna make it more interactive ... so if there's a video so say you're lying about volcanoes or something you can click on a video in Ltd to link ... vacancy with a volcano is like a word ... on ... the alert you know if if you're looking at a speech I like JFK tickling him and actually watch ... I think that's what they could be doing any with Apple you know they ... don't really ... have a fence or less a something ... of really big push for a really big ... I'm you know the difference so I think we can expect to see something pretty innovative could cut into the something like but when you when you have this children's books in the still of the new habit will visit of oral come ... together and can actually moves like that you could be like mad but any any identical forms the ICC taste of what I would assume so I mean I really have no idea of a coming of of what exactly is our not look like and I think ... and it is the sky is the one that is what makes this you wanna ... yell ... at ... me and digitizing make this interactive betting accounts and outs of the publisher it'll ever is making a textbook ... on but but I think we can see it's a pretty exciting stuff ... so sit here with us it is something that the teams at the University audience for certain ... I know that the nuclear ... I'm I'm getting up early university would be predicted doctors of the I pad ... but people Nielsen also said that you know the way to really get these adopted is for kids to start using them when they're little efficacy as that and yet his ... colleagues in the history of having your textbook and violating of writing and that's the way that you've learned since you were let off with happiness physical bought ... the TV star when you're a little kid you know and actually doing it on and ... on I mean I like having your little that's the way you teach yourself to study the teachers have to read so yes this ... is ... going ... since then it didn't seem that ... things are expensive but ... I had seems really high expense and down ... for a lot of people and ... you know I'm curious if you've heard anything about ... what the funding might mean for events and I haven't heard anything about that I mean there's been speculation that maybe they can announce a special discounts for the I've had ... to meet new students and teachers gave discounts for Max rate now I don't think that they get I've had discounts and not other than about that ... but there could be ... today I think they may believe that the IMAX but as you know it's still ... way more than anything else that even after the discount so the only thing that can pose like this don't know what you what the story ... all go until next year I was on this ballclub ... this on and off with when I talk a lot but that they can be educational publishing yet know it's quite a lot of companies wanting to have a good business line for many years ... the switches that I really as kind of basically with ... Apple's model is headed and that they get everybody involved ... and I think it'll probably learned if you don't go along with them you're probably going to be about behinds ... I'm silly obese McGraw Hill is participating ... in this and I would assume the other publishers are swelling of the SEC couple others that are attending ... the least attending the event ... so I would assume that there probably ... get all this in some way to get the pictures of the one hand in it but now ... but you know we don't know that for sure one of the weather wasn't Valmont's yet it's the thought of question marks an ounce of what happened the summing some the longer ... I still one of the answer the question I didn't get a coloring book online ... the question is like a bird ... 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