Behold: a conversation between two NBA players in which Kevin Durant somehow does not emerge as the whingy and corny one. On today’s episode of his Pull Up podcast, C.J. McCollum speaks honestly about his frustrations with DeMarcus Cousins’s move to the Warriors, only to open himself up to a blistering series of owns.

In the span of two minutes Kevin Durant makes clear how (un)seriously he takes the Blazers, giggles openly at the notion of them contending for a title, corners McCollum into expressing dissatisfaction with his teammate Jusuf Nurkic, and tells McCollum not to concern himself with “what’s going on at the top of things.” You can more or less hear him politely patting C.J. on the head.

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Anytime the Burner Man is telling you “Yo, get out your feelings, yo,” you should probably reassess things.