Between this and the deputy at the courthouse, I see this as a tipping point. People are going to start fighting back using any means they can get. I would not be surprised that the next spree killer was taken down by someone using a baseball bat or a hockey stick. People have gone from being fearful of spree killers to tired of them and now they are angry. And, yes, I know the deputy was doing his job but he could have waited for back-up. Instead, he went, "Screw it. You are not getting in."

mekki:Between this and the deputy at the courthouse, I see this as a tipping point. People are going to start fighting back using any means they can get. I would not be surprised that the next spree killer was taken down by someone using a baseball bat or a hockey stick. People have gone from being fearful of spree killers to tired of them and now they are angry. And, yes, I know the deputy was doing his job but he could have waited for back-up. Instead, he went, "Screw it. You are not getting in."

Anything can be a throwing weapon, especially from behind.

By the by, got a link to the deputy fark thread? I must have missed it.

Pichu0102:mekki: Between this and the deputy at the courthouse, I see this as a tipping point. People are going to start fighting back using any means they can get. I would not be surprised that the next spree killer was taken down by someone using a baseball bat or a hockey stick. People have gone from being fearful of spree killers to tired of them and now they are angry. And, yes, I know the deputy was doing his job but he could have waited for back-up. Instead, he went, "Screw it. You are not getting in."

Anything can be a throwing weapon, especially from behind.

By the by, got a link to the deputy fark thread? I must have missed it.

That's an interesting getup that they've got Ybarra in. I thought disposable Tyvek construction overalls were all the rage this year for prison transport, but looks like this guy got the deluxe "we can't trust you to put your own pants on, so we're going to wrap you in a velcro-laced carpet pad and call it good" treatment

(also, who was the editor who felt the need to repeat their ages every time their names were mentioned?)

fluffy2097:mekki: People are going to start fighting back using any means they can get

I thought that more guns didn't solve anything.

But it won't be just more guns. It will be like what this kid did with a thing of pepper spray. I think people will be using anything they can get their hands on. I am waiting for the story where a gunman is taken down by the archery team. That will be...something.

mekki:I am waiting for the story where a gunman is taken down by the archery team.

Thanks to zero tolerance, it will never happen. Gun free zones? Also bow free zones. For the children, you see.

/You can watch pro wrestling if you want to see people get hit in the head with a chair.//If you want your gun free zones, and onerous legislation on legal gun owners, you should have to wait for the cops to come save your ass, since you have abdicated your ability to defend yourself to the police.

fluffy2097:mekki: I am waiting for the story where a gunman is taken down by the archery team.

Thanks to zero tolerance, it will never happen. Gun free zones? Also bow free zones. For the children, you see.

/You can watch pro wrestling if you want to see people get hit in the head with a chair.//If you want your gun free zones, and onerous legislation on legal gun owners, you should have to wait for the cops to come save your ass, since you have abdicated your ability to defend yourself to the police.

Many high schools and colleges have archery teams. I can see a situation where a spree killer attacks on the day an archery team practice was happening and the team fought back.

fluffy2097:mekki: I am waiting for the story where a gunman is taken down by the archery team.

Thanks to zero tolerance, it will never happen. Gun free zones? Also bow free zones. For the children, you see.

/You can watch pro wrestling if you want to see people get hit in the head with a chair.//If you want your gun free zones, and onerous legislation on legal gun owners, you should have to wait for the cops to come save your ass, since you have abdicated your ability to defend yourself to the police.

mekki:fluffy2097: mekki: People are going to start fighting back using any means they can get

I thought that more guns didn't solve anything.

But it won't be just more guns. It will be like what this kid did with a thing of pepper spray. I think people will be using anything they can get their hands on. I am waiting for the story where a gunman is taken down by the archery team. That will be...something.

It would also be nice if some money went to the family who lost their child to help cover the thousands of dollars in funeral costs. While not begrudging this kid one cent, I wish that was part of this, too.

It's questioning what is the cause of violence in our society? The proliferation of guns, or the fact you cannot find a single piece of modern american media where murdering someone is an acceptable way of solving a minor disagreement.

It's a questioning of zero tolerance, and the effect of calling an armed gang who throw flash bangs in infants faces as good, heroic people.

Every time there is an act of mass violence, people complain bitterly about how someone else should DO SOMETHING!

Well what is the something they invariably come up with? Violating the rights of citizens who have done nothing wrong, and unbridled violence.