A Russian warning

We, the undersigned, are Russians living and working in the USA. We have been watching with increasing anxiety as the current US and NATO policies have set us on an extremely dangerous collision course with the Russian Federation, as well as with China. Many respected, patriotic Americans, such as Paul Craig Roberts, Stephen Cohen, Philip Giraldi, Ray McGovern and many others have been issuing warnings of a looming a Third World War. But their voices have been all but lost among the din of a mass media that is full of deceptive and inaccurate stories that characterize the Russian economy as being in shambles and the Russian military as weak—all based on no evidence. But we—knowing both Russian history and the current state of Russian society and the Russian military, cannot swallow these lies. We now feel that it is our duty, as Russians living in the US, to warn the American people that they are being lied to, and to tell them the truth. And the truth is simply this:

If there is going to be a war with Russia, then the United States
will most certainly be destroyed, and most of us will end up dead.

Let us take a step back and put what is happening in a historical context. Russia has suffered a great deal at the hands of foreign invaders, losing 22 million people in World War II. Most of the dead were civilians, because the country was invaded, and the Russians have vowed to never let such a disaster happen again. Each time Russia had been invaded, she emerged victorious. In 1812 Napoleon invaded Russia; in 1814 Russian cavalry rode into Paris. On June 22, 1941, Hitler’s Luftwaffe bombed Kiev; On May 8, 1945, Soviet troops rolled into Berlin.

But times have changed since then. If Hitler were to attack Russia today, he would be dead 20 to 30 minutes later, his bunker reduced to glowing rubble by a strike from a Kalibr supersonic cruise missile launched from a small Russian navy ship somewhere in the Baltic Sea. The operational abilities of the new Russian military have been most persuasively demonstrated during the recent action against ISIS, Al Nusra and other foreign-funded terrorist groups operating in Syria. A long time ago Russia had to respond to provocations by fighting land battles on her own territory, then launching a counter-invasion; but this is no longer necessary. Russia’s new weapons make retaliation instant, undetectable, unstoppable and perfectly lethal.

Thus, if tomorrow a war were to break out between the US and Russia, it is guaranteed that the US would be obliterated. At a minimum, there would no longer be an electric grid, no Internet, no oil and gas pipelines, no interstate highway system, no air transportation or GPS-based navigation. Financial centers would lie in ruins. Government at every level would cease to function. US armed forces, stationed all around the globe, would no longer be resupplied. At a maximum, the entire landmass of the US would be covered by a layer of radioactive ash. We tell you this not to be alarmist, but because, based on everything we know, we are ourselves alarmed. If attacked, Russia will not back down; she will retaliate, and she will utterly annihilate the United States.

The US leadership has done everything it could to push the situation to the brink of disaster. First, its anti-Russian policies have convinced the Russian leadership that making concessions or negotiating with the West is futile. It has become apparent that the West will always support any individual, movement or government that is anti-Russian, be it tax-cheating Russian oligarchs, convicted Ukrainian war criminals, Saudi-supported Wahhabi terrorists in Chechnya or cathedral-desecrating punks in Moscow. Now that NATO, in violation of its previous promises, has expanded right up to the Russian border, with US forces deployed in the Baltic states, within artillery range of St. Petersburg, Russia’s second-largest city, the Russians have nowhere left to retreat. They will not attack; nor will they back down or surrender. The Russian leadership enjoys over 80% of popular support; the remaining 20% seems to feel that it is being too soft in opposing Western encroachment. But Russia will retaliate, and a provocation or a simple mistake could trigger a sequence of events that will end with millions of Americans dead and the US in ruins.

Unlike many Americans, who see war as an exciting, victorious foreign adventure, the Russians hate and fear war. But they are also ready for it, and they have been preparing for war for several years now. Their preparations have been most effective. Unlike the US, which squanders untold billions on dubious overpriced arms programs such as the F-35 joint task fighter, the Russians are extremely stingy with their defense rubles, getting as much as 10 times the bang for the buck compared to the bloated US defense industry. While it is true that the Russian economy has suffered from low energy prices, it is far from being in shambles, and a return to growth is expected as early as next year. Senator John McCain once called Russia “A gas station masquerading as a country.” Well, he lied. Yes, Russia is the world’s largest oil producer and second-largest oil exporter, but it is also world’s largest exporter of grain and nuclear power technology. It is as advanced and sophisticated a society as the United States. Russia’s armed forces, both conventional and nuclear, are now ready to fight, and they are more than a match for the US and NATO, especially if a war erupts anywhere near the Russian border.

But such a fight would be suicidal for all sides. We strongly believe that a conventional war in Europe runs a strong chance of turning nuclear very rapidly, and that any US/NATO nuclear strike on Russian forces or territory will automatically trigger a retaliatory Russian nuclear strike on the continental US. Contrary to irresponsible statements made by some American propagandists, American antiballistic missile systems are incapable of shielding the American people from a Russian nuclear strike. Russia has the means to strike at targets in the USA with long-range nuclear as well as conventional weapons.

The sole reason why the USA and Russia have found themselves on a collision course, instead of defusing tensions and cooperating on a wide range of international problems, is the stubborn refusal by the US leadership to accept Russia as an equal partner: Washington is dead set on being the “world leader” and the “indispensable nation,” even as its influence steadily dwindles in the wake of a string of foreign policy and military disasters such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen and the Ukraine. Continued American global leadership is something that neither Russia, nor China, nor most of the other countries are willing to accept. This gradual but apparent loss of power and influence has caused the US leadership to become hysterical; and it is but a small step from hysterical to suicidal. America’s political leaders need to be placed under suicide watch.

First and foremost, we are appealing to the commanders of the US Armed Forces to follow the example of Admiral William Fallon, who, when asked about a war with Iran, reportedly replied “not on my watch.” We know that you are not suicidal, and that you do not wish to die for the sake of out-of-touch imperial hubris. If possible, please tell your staff, colleagues and, especially, your civilian superiors that a war with Russia will not happen on your watch. At the very least, take that pledge to yourself, and, should the day ever come when the suicidal order is issued, simply refuse to execute it on the grounds that it is criminal. Remember that according to the Nuremberg Tribunal “To initiate a war of aggression… is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.” Since Nuremberg, “I was just following orders” is no longer a valid defense; please don’t be war criminals.

We also appeal to the American people to take peaceful but forceful action to oppose any politician or party that engages in irresponsible, provocative Russia-baiting, and that condones and supports a policy of needless confrontation with a nuclear superpower that is capable of destroying the US in about an hour. Speak up, break through the barrier of mass media propaganda, and make your fellow Americans aware of the immense danger of a confrontation between Russia and the US.

There is no objective reason why US and Russia should consider each other as adversaries. The current confrontation is entirely the result of the extremist views of the neoconservative movement, whose members have infiltrated the US Federal government, and who consider any country that refuses to obey their dictates as an enemy to be crushed. Thanks to their tireless efforts, over a million innocent people have already died in the former Yugoslavia, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, the Ukraine, Yemen, Somalia and in many other countries—all because of their maniacal insistence that the USA must be a world empire, not a just a regular, normal country, and that every national leader must either bow down before it, or be overthrown. In Russia, the irresistible force that is the neocon movement has finally encountered the immovable object. They must be forced to back down before they destroy us all.

We are absolutely and categorically certain that Russia will never attack the US, nor any EU member state, that Russia is not at all interested in recreating the USSR, and that there is no “Russian threat” or “Russian aggression.” Much of Russia’s recent economic success has a lot to do with the shedding of former Soviet dependencies, allowing her to pursue a “Russia first” policy. But we are just as certain that if Russia is attacked, or even threatened with attack, she will not back down, and that the Russian leadership will not “blink.” With great sadness and a heavy heart they will do their sworn duty and unleash a nuclear barrage from which the United States will never recover. Even if the entire Russian leadership is killed in a first strike, the so-called “Dead Hand” (the “Perimetr” system) will automatically launch enough nukes to wipe the USA off the political map. We feel that it is our duty to do all we can to prevent such a catastrophe.

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Bibi and Evelyn likely are behind all this. Their messianic ideology requires that Israel rule the world. To accomplish this they are more than happy to see the West and the East destroy themselves so that in the end, Israel rules what is left of the world. If I were Russia, I would make it clear to Bibi that should a nuclear exchange be initiated between East and West, that Israel would be a priority target. I am certain that at that point world tensions would ease.

Victor, if America were obliterated or even merely incapacitated, Israel would be left standing bare b*tt naked, surrounded by unfriendly faces. It might choose suicide by nuke then as a less painful choice.

I thinks that i’t’s exactly what would suit Bibi and Evelyn at best. By then, the world pupulation will be trimmed to about 15% of today’s pupulation, with Europe dissapeared, and the USA as well, who would be the only superior race to run the show, the most advanced? see, they’d be the ones to benefit the most…they would have a tiny easy to control population…I think Victor’s idea is so far the best…Putin should make it glass clear…to them

Maybe we are seeing a global Nika riots with ninety-three-year-old grey eminence Andrew Mashall in the Pentagon playing the role of Theodora saying, “Purple (updated to Red White and Blue) makes a fine shroud.”

You are correct. Since it has been rumored that Israel has a possible “MEGATON Bomb” in their arsenal, and that they have said they would bring EVERYONE (including the Middle East)!DOWN WITH THEM in them event of a potential defeat or invasion, they would again take their historic “suicide back up plan” ( and like Masada take as many Goyim they could down with them. Of course
since Israel has forcefully and against world opinion created their own weapons and (unlike Iran) HAS NEVER ALLOWED nuclear arms inspectors to come in to check their stash, we will never know until they chose to use it! Some say they may have as many as a hundred nukes, including a nuclear missile submarine as well as one of the biggest air forces in the world. (They have generous supporters all over the world due to their kindness and generosity!

The US government is currently controlled by neocon fifth columnists. Whereas “Paleo-cons” are Christian America-firsters “Neocons” are Jewish Israel-firsters. This results in US government policy trending in directions that often seem counter-intuitive.

Islamic eschatology (study of the end of human history, end times) is historically the most recent and detailed out of all the monotheistic and Abrahamic religions.

And according to Islamic eschatology (based on the Quran and the narrations of the prophet of Islam) places like Jerusalem, Damascus, Mecca, Medina and Constantinople will play a very important role in the final battles between several different actors, including Jews, Christians, Muslims, Anti-Christ, Jesus Christ, etc.

If this is the case, then:

1. These locations will be spared nuclear strikes, despite their relative distance near European targets in the Northern Hemisphere, compared to for example Central/Southern Africa or South America.

2. Russia will not strike Israel for whatever reason despite it being a strong US ally. This is possibly due to assurances given by the Israeli leadership to the Russians that Israel will not interfere in a confrontation between the US-NATO alliance and Russia.

3. If points 1 and 2 are correct, then Israel will most likely end up being one of the remaining nuclear super powers in the world and would definitely look to expand its territories after the collapse of the current world order. Think of the occupation of the Sinai and parts of Egypt, or invasions into Syria, Jordan or Iraq. Israel might think of using limited nuclear strike capabilities on the Arabs, etc.

Israel by that time might think of using its arsenal of biological and chemical weapons against some adversaries instead of using the nuclear option.

According to Islamic Hadiths a huge number of Arabs will be killed by “plague”, which could refer to Israel’s use of biological/nuclear weapons and could be part of Israel’s expansion of its borders to occupy the biblical frontiers of Greater Israel.

Of course the questions pop up: where will China, Pakistan and India be in this situation?
Will China be part of the nuclear alliance with Russia in confrontation with US-NATO forces?
And what about the roles of India and Pakistan in these scenarios?

4. These narrated prophecies are pretty detailed in their geo-locations and the naming of places and indicate that there is no reality in the theories claiming that the entire population of the Earth will be extinct or life on Earth will cease to exist due to an all out nuclear war.

5. The Quran and the prophetic narrations clearly mention multiple times that the exact time when these events will occur are unknown to all creations (including the prophets who have provided these prophecies and the angels who sent down the messages to the holy prophets) except for All Mighty God.

Please dont confuse the issue !
IF there is a nuclear holocast between Russia and USA.
THE REST OF THE WORLD WOULD BE INHALATED.
1. Because of radiation, that knows no borders.
2. The dustcloud that shields the sun will last
3 – 4 YEARS. Try to grow something without
the sun and plenty of radiation
Blamy optimists. Stiff upper lip ???

“If I were Russia, I would make it clear to Bibi that should a nuclear exchange be initiated between East and West, that Israel would be a priority target. I am certain that at that point world tensions would ease.”

Took the words right out of my mouth.

Israel is relatively speaking, a dot on the map. There is every reason to allocate enough nukes to turn Israel into molten silica, and to make sure that Israeli leaders know that.

I agree with the comments that Israel is the root of many problems if not all the main problems.

And of course Israel is just a dot on the map, and that the moral thing Russia should do is to take out Israel.

However, I do not see Orthodox Christian Russia nuking cities 60 km or less from Jerusalem (or Jerusalem itself) and risking the lives of many innocent Arabs and Palestinians (including radiation and fall-out).

I believe Israel will fall at a certain time only after the collapse of the West (in whatever form)….and most likely by conventional means in the post-nuclear world.

Very well put Victor… Israel is the prime cause of most conflicts and the US is just a puppet to them, why? Who knows, but the “land of there sheep and home of the slave” will be no more if Russia is attacked, and, yep… take out the zioNazi’s once and for all…

All this talk about nuclear strikes. Do we realize actually how we know that nuclear weapons even exist? What our perception about nuclear weapons is based on? It’s based on military propaganda footages about (supposed) nuclear tests.

If you look closely, some of them look pretty fake, (By the way, most of them came out of Lookout Mountain Air Force Station, Los Angeles, a fully self-contained film production facility, a few miles distance from Hollywood.) Why do the pictures look like composites if nuclear explosions are real? (Just to be clear, mushroom clouds are not exclusive to nuclear weapons, and motion picture compositing techniques were already used quite big time e.g. in 1939 in the classic movie Wizard of Oz.)

(Yes, this would also mean that Israeli nuclear weapons are also just war propaganda. Corollary to this, do you think that the Cold War was for real? Check out Antony Sutton’s scholarly works about Western technology transfers into the Soviet Union. Or as he once said, “the Cold War was a hoax from beginning to end”. E.g. the mass production of MIRV ballistic missiles were made possible through technology transfer from US sources. How comes US sources ship machining equipment used in mass production of ballistic missiles to the Soviet Union in a nuclear war situation?)

Just to say, maybe the deception runs deeper we might realize. Maybe it’s also somewhat worthwhile to worry somewhat more mundane things like water systems security. You know, there are more then one large international utility conglomerates that own and operate water facilities internationally, as well as nuclear plants, and both of them have Rothschild involvement. One of them was also part of the Fukushima cleanup operations and acquired another company which part of the Fukushima cleanup operations as well.

“Why do the pictures look like composites if nuclear explosions are real?”

I suggest to look once and for all at the recording dates. When these films were taken, the digital age was a distant future and black/white film rolls were state of the art. Do you have a little idea how these films look like after 40 years of storage? Exactly.

“Just to be clear, mushroom clouds are not exclusive to nuclear weapons, and motion picture compositing techniques were already used quite big time e.g. in 1939 in the classic movie Wizard of Oz.”

Yeah, yeah. And all the misery due to radioactive fallout, including large-scale fish dying across the Pacific Sea was just a bad dream. Sometimes I really wonder how comes that people speculate about this kind of facts. Did the public education already become so lousy?

Regarding the US MIC, the CIA not only finances its black ops by drugs, people and arms smuggling, they also ran loose on selling technology to the highest bidder several times in the past (regarding nukes, South Africa, Israel, Pakistan and Iran comes to my mind). If one looks more closely, even the USA did not get their nukes by patriots alone. The US stole more than 20’000 German patents after WWII and thousands of the most skilled German scientists. During the war, Albert Einstein and other people fled to the US and were deeply involved in the development of nuclear technology.

In summary, the US claims an incredible amount of foreign inventions to be their own. Many Potemkin villages – mirrors and shades – but little substance.

There were 67 Japanese cities destroyed by US incendiary bombing. And the 68th and 69th cities bombed were Hiroshima and Nagasaki, absolutely unnecessary of course.

But the destruction in Hiroshima and Nagasaki on the photographs looks just like the destruction in Tokyo, which was firebombed. So where’s the evidence of nuclear explosions? The motion picture comes from the US military, it’s closed system, so one either takes is as real or not. But sure, mass murderers would never lie and do war propaganda, so we can take what they say as facts or else it’s outrageous speculation.

There was also strict information control in Japan as well as in the US after the bombings. But surely those governments, the same entities enacting the information control, would never abuse that situation.

Just read the testimonies of survivors of the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings. There are hundreds of accounts telling of a _single_ bomb bringing total devastation within seconds. In case of Hiroshima, the accounts also tell of a _single_ plane high in the sunny sky that nobody feared because it was considered as a spy plane only.

You can simply not make up these results with incendiary bombings. Compare them with the accounts of survivors of German cities, for instance Dresden, that were destroyed by conventional bombs.

Regarding the fallout, most of it was sucked into the mushroom cloud and spread wide. Compared to nuclear power station accidents, the bombs left behind less than 0.1% of radioactive legacy.

I am so glad I grew up in such a Christian country of church goers! (NOT!)It makes me SICK as I live in Japan now and know people who were there or saw the blast from a distance. It has made me question the whole existence of the USA. IS IT JUST A MONEY MAKING MACHINE FOR THE Industrial Military Complex to make TRILLIONS of profit from war after war after war. I mean check out Washington DC map layouts. Its all FREEMASON designed with hidden meanings and power spots, etc. And the PENTAGON!Isn’t that what you get into when you want to “hex” someone. I think our leaders are all worshiping Satan or at least into the occult magic and kabalist dark magic. WE HAVE BEEN DUPED PEOPLE! And one of these days God is going to let America have it for their sins of greed and idol worship and for the MASS MURDER of MILLIONS of innocent peoplle who never did anything to us ( until we attacked them first! that is). God help us!

It was ‘air burst’ I.e. Full reinforced reflective blast, but minimal radiation fall-out, most of which is consumed in the blast itself or rises with the fire ball.
I believe that the claim that they do not exist is wild, but I’m open to new ideas.

Yes – this is the time to all put our heads above the parapit. This warning needs to be sent out to as many people as possible. Maybe its time we all helped by forwarding this warning to everyone we know and care about…..People of influence. Thank you to all three of you for doing this.

This warning along with the other two articles about M.A.D. and the Greek press conference with Putin should all be read together.

I can see why the Russians let Savchenko go – why protect the likes of her at times like this?! There maybe more Russians being brought home……and nazi’s terrorists released – why keep them in Russia?

Technical s..t(MOD) doesn’t matter. Anymore than it did with Kennedy at Cuba. These are political decisions and based on that. Russia’s willingness to deploy tactical nukes to defend local forces raises the stakes. Rightfully. F..k(MOD) around with us past this point and you will be incinerated. Would you cross Putin

If someone is ignorant then let them have a plate they had prepared for themselfs.
The sad part of it is that wildlife have nothing to say, otherwise it’s all good.
At least there is chance of punishing the warmonger for good.

The problem is, if someone is ‘ignorant’, then it will be up to the cockroaches to see if they can do better. If ever was there a time for people to work hard to make sure the people around them are not ignorant, this is it. Not unless someone is really a secret agent working for the cockroaches.

The current generation of Western Leaders are mostly made up of a sickening mix of self-centeredness, hubris, incompetence, shallowness, cronyism and deceit. I just don’t know if the rest of the world’s major powers’ leadership are comprised of the same evil muck.

Perhaps Russia will show some compassion toward America, it was not so long ago Russia’s brain and reproductive centers were similarly parasitized by Bolsheveism. The parasite has America by its nervous system, and makes it do things the rational public does not want.

No, what has happened during the Bolshevism and communism in the East European countries it was just a rehearsal by the same gangsters what they are applying right now on the naïve US citizens, exactly what Donald Trump is trying to explain to the sheep type and totally brainwashed people

Thanks. This is my point: Russia’s political and intelligence establishment has morphed – it is on the path to being de-parasitized. Many of the worst elements of Russian society self deported during Yeltsin’s years.

Both Bolsheveism and Financial Capitalism are parts of the same thing. Namely: Hermeticism/Zohar/Kabala. It is the trading of vapor for something tangible i.e. magick.

This magick is buried in the money system. Their religion serves as a cover and shield to allow rent takings, and employment of these theft mechanisms have been honed over millenia. It is no accident that Trotsky’s first act was a wall street usury bank in Russia; echo’s and symmetry to today were Libyan bank installed even before Qaddafi was executed.

Communism as it manifested post Bolshevism was a super Oligarchy where the means of production were controlled by a super elite. The west is now morphing, under neo-con guidance, to a new feudalism, where financial oligarchy is grabbing the commons and controlling the political system. The U.S. military industrial complex is along for the ride, as they extract money for fear; not to mention that MIC has to respond to its corrupted political leadership.

The best form of theft is when it is out in the open, and gains sanction of law. When this happens a society can be said to be criminogenic, which is now the state of the U.S. TARP, TTIP, Citizens United Act, Graham Leach Blily act, etc. all stand as proof of this criminogenic activity.

That Russia has turned can be seen in a document from The Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate (click on link below).

A symphony of Church and state – a new Byzantium is being recapitulated. The moral underpinnings of this document are stunning; they even go after usury.

One could say this is a radical shift on par with the Magna Carta – if it becomes part of the political control system and ethos of the Russian people.

So again I say, I hope that Russians have some sympathy for American people. The magick and parasitism foisted on them, has American sheeple dazzled and confused. American constitution shares much with Moscow Patriarchate in spirit; hence the real American spirit and Russian spirit are similar.

Killing American’s in retribution and fear, is the killing of many innocents who are already victimized by an ancient foreign ideology, a scourge of moral men.

I am categorically against any softness for American people. Not out of hate, on the contrary I love them! But it was this lack of experience what horror war is that brought us to this point. If Russia will be attacked it must attack back. Otherwise world (or what’s left of it) will be saddled with arrogant American hegemon that just got reassured that no matter how much destruction and horror it unleashes at others he will be safe.

These sort of comments bother me. Why are the American people to blame, when their societal brain center has been parasitized. How is it that Russia’s brain center turned on its own people in the Gulags? Those people were innocents. Now that Russia is ejecting its parasite it should remember its history.

How about the British Financial and American Financial System, which then induced the German hyperinflation, which then leads directly to a populist being elected – Hitler?

Maybe Hitler was too soft?

The way that Putin is doing it is the best way. He needs to accelerate BRICS, or even better seize control of the money system with sovereign money.

Bombing and killing innocents does not automatically mean that a country will “learn” their lesson. The actual promulgators of the conflict are often not killed, and may even profit in war. They may even think they can go underground for generations (nuclear war), so that their children may inherit the earth.

Russia should continue to Rope a Dope the west. Wooing Germany to Russia’s side will be the end of Nato and U.S. hegemony. This should be priority – not getting caught up in nuclear sabre rattling. This can be done with economic means and improving ties in all arenas.

Yes, that’s a good analysis & warning . . . In case they start a war of aggression, no doubt Putin, Shoigu, and Gerasimov and their boys (& girls) will immediately occupy London, and Tel Aviv as well (it’s the same gang), but the biggest warmonger, and terrorist, not unlike Nazi Germany more than 70 years ago, will be utterly annihilated within the hour.
Then what? The fat stupid nervous Western soldiers (cannon fodder) are no match whatsoever anyway for the cool Russians (and Chinese & Iranians).

Two reasons … .one, is that Bernie at best was only a very small step in the right direction. He votes for every Pentagon budget, he supports the drone wars and all the civilian deaths. He’s regularly expressed his total support for Israel. And, since he’s become a Senator and a part of the Senate Democratic caucus, he’s been fully supportive of the Democratic Party and its aggressive war-like policies. He regularly says about Syria that Turkey and Saudi Arabia are supposed to ‘step up’ and ‘do more’.

Second, Bernie lost over a month ago. At this point, he’s a Monty Python dead parrot nailed to its perch. The only difference is that he still keeps talking.

At this point, its long passed time to move on. All money and support should go instead to Jill Stein of the Green Party, who supports all of Bernie’s weak anti-corporate stances as well as is a real Peace candidate. But most party Democrats have had so much anti-Green Party propaganda shoved down their throats that few of them can see this as the obvious way forward.

It should? Maybe? But the truth is that both the Green and Libertarian parties (combined) have less support from voters in the US than the pro-Western 5th column parties do in Russia. Building political parties to have any strength in the West (especially the US) takes money,and more money. As well as years of effort. And you must first win local,regional,and national elections.Before you are able to be known enough to seriously challenge for “the ” national” Presidential election.A vote for the Green’s (the much smaller of the two) would certainly take “a few” votes from Clinton. But a vote for the Libertarian (the much larger of the two) would take votes from Trump. The only “spoiler” in this election would be if the Democrats split,and Sanders was to run as an “Independent”. That might (assuming Sanders “didn’t win”.Something I’m not positive about.) assure a Trump victory against Clinton. Otherwise.after the “united” media has finished their trashing of Trump. And the Clinton supporters are turned loose to disrupt Trump’s rallies with cries of him being a fascist. In November we’ll be calling Clinton “Madame President”.

“The sole reason why the USA and Russia have found themselves on a collision course, instead of defusing tensions and cooperating on a wide range of international problems, is the stubborn refusal by the US leadership to accept Russia as an equal partner”

No, it is because of the USA and the elites/shadow government in control that wants world domination, and if Russia would be fine being a partner of world domination (and forever standing by or even aiding small nations to be bullied, tortured and squashed, like the Serbs in the Balkans) than it is showing self-centered-ness too.
Russia only cares when it is being directly attacked or threatened but it ignored the U.S. path towards Russia and did little to nothing over the destruction of Iraq, Yugoslavia, Libya and many other nations, and was fine with cooperating with Turkey, even though it was heavily involved in Syria’s war and supporting terrorists, until Turkey took aim at it.

Russia in the 90s following the Ussr collapse (after usa sponsored taliban/alqaida proxywar in afghanistan + usa led oilprice attacks made ussr collapse in on itself).
+ who knows how much usa had planned with the crock Jeltsin _before_ the actuall collapse.

Jeltsin f over the Russian country, giving all power and resources to curropt elites, often in line with foreign elites.

So Russia was nowhere in shape to defend Crimea in 1990-1992 when Ukraine bulldozed over Crimeas independence, was nowhere near able to defend Jugoslavia, etc.

People forget how really bad Russia was in the 90s to 2000. It was bad!.
Most stereotypes of the emigrated 1st gen russians, come from that time. (Hatred/dislike of russia, bc how bad life actually was).

The russian 90s, makes ukraine look like a paradise when it comes to economy, evonomical survival etc.

So cant blame Russia for what they did not do in their 90s.
The west collapsed ussr in “clever” tactics (proxywar with terrorists, and collapse of oilprices). Pluss betrayal from Jeltsin!.

Russia has learnt from it.
And is one of many reasons why Russia is reluctant to fully enter any wars. Its a quigmire.
And Russia learnt from the oilattack, so this time they decoupled their currency! So the rubble fell alot in value vs foreign currency.

Russia has more net exportvalue then foreign debt, so Russia was in a position where they had that good option!.
So the oilattack has not made any real impact on Russia.
What has weaken Russia, is that they are denied bankcredits from the big western financialsystem (russia may not have net debt, but all financial markets needs credits, even Russian!).
So Russia should start using more of the chinese market (but the interestrates in China is bad vs the west markets). So that severly slows down investmentcqpability!.

And that russia has to find new options for all the sanctioned imports, that also hurts!.
But that is a temporary adjustment untill new alternative products are in place in big enough wuantities.

So only real bad is the lack of access to cheap western credits.
And that instability for companies having to deal with rubble fluctating. Makes it hard/luckvsunlucky to do bisuinesses.

2000-2014 was Russian growth period.
So not so weird that they have not “interfered” with usa hegemony or usa agression in those years.
And usa has abused to the fullest that russia was on its knees in the 90s from the ussr collapse.
Usa gas used that time to cement its world power/control of various countries, organs, systems.
So taking on usa in a non-war is extremly hard now.

But usa is full of itself, and that will be its downfall.

And remember its not usa that controlls usa, its the elite behind the banksters. They are like parasites and uses usa as a powerfull instrument to controll the other western instruments, to controll rest of the world.

At the end of the Cold War sixteen years ago I was optimistic about the future but look where we are now. Peace is an existential threat to the bi-partisan oligarchic elites that rule the US. Their ‘indispensable and exceptional’ attitudes are a lunacy like another people in another time that thought they were ‘uber alles’.

At the end of the cold war I knew that the world was entering a dangerous era because the balance of military power then prevented the USA from becoming the Azion Empire. It is written all over the USA’s history that they would take advantage of any weakness in their pursuit of hegemony, hence the extravagant claims of “end of history’, “full spectrum dominance” and “aggressively prevent the rise of any country to challenge it”.

Even blind Freddy could see it. (no offence to anyone)

It’s a sad irony that the Russian traitors of 1989 onwards are the direct cause of the looming threat over Russia, Europe and even the world. The US are acting consistently and true to their past, the fault lies with the powers/countries that meekly accept US prepotence.

Saker – you were born for this. Well done. Carry on. I’ll meet you at the barricades, and you have drawn the line to show where the barricades stand.

Praise you for sounding the alarm, and raising the sleeping into wakefulness.

You have crafted a subject that we can discuss with the most propagandized of all our friends and neighbors – “Did you know that Russia can destroy us in 1 hour if we don’t change our leadership policy in Washington?”

Our Western elites are mainly inward-looking. I’m quite certain that some of our elite think army maneuvers of the German, French and Polish armies next to the Russian border are a good way to improve their careers. They do not realize how thin the ice is upon which they are treading – to the Russians, these are the armies which marched upon Moscow, only to be beaten back at great cost. I’m quite certain that some of our elite think US radar stations and missiles next to Russia’s border is a great way to improve their bank account. Yes, the risks to our countries vastly outweighs the benefit to their bank accounts. But why should they care?

Some loose thoughts on what The Saker and other have written and a warning to the Russians:

1. US leadership is way too much coward too fight anything like a war with the Russians.
2. US BMD stations in Romania and Poland are useless against Russian missiles and a very easy target – both Americans and Russians tell that.
3. Anyway, Russians lament about them and Americans spend many millions – why?
4. I think it is a powerful AA missile battery and SS non-nuclear, where many missiles can be easily added for the purpose of:
5. Area Denial so Russia cannot help out even with civilian means when NATO is going to color revolutionize / invade (what Scott has written about reunification of Romania and Moldavia)
6. We have to expect a rapid expansion of USA influence and violence in Serbia, Moldavia, Transnistria, Belarus, Ukraine, etc.
7. Nato will always try to avoid direct confrontatian with Russia, proxy war is ok, of course, and blame every reaction of Russia as “Russian Agression”™.

I am no specialist in this and no native english speaker, following events in Ukraine and Syria since Feb 2014.

Maybe The Saker can write something about the real use of a BMD, that both sides say is useless. Thank you.

Thing is that they talk about BMD as if it does work. If anyone in the power elite asks about BMD they are told it works. The only dissenting voice is physicist Ted Postol, a man who is not welcome in polite circles. Basically pointing out that BMD is useless is like pointing out that there was a coup in Ukraine. You just don’t do it.

“These are launch pads and radar stations. Today, 500-kilometre range Iskander land-based missiles are being deployed; in a few years they will be 1000-kilometre range missiles. We even know the approximate date when such missiles will be deployed.

How can this not be a threat to us? It is a clear threat to our nuclear forces.” V. Putin

“We will wait for certain actions to be taken in Poland. We are not going to do anything until we see missiles on the neighbouring territory. And we have the necessary resources. You saw, the whole world saw our capabilities in terms of medium-range sea and air based missiles.” V. Putin

If it come to war… Here is a possible or should I say realistic scenario ??
If it comes to war against Russia and China, the conflict could be unimaginably violent. It is the nature of modern, high-tech warfare that the conflict could also be unimaginably fast. The Russians and Chinese have silo, truck and underground tunnel based, intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs), submarine launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs), air launched nuclear cruise missiles, sea launched nuclear cruise missiles, electromagnetic pulse (EMP) weapons, supersonic anti-ship nuclear missiles that can take out aircraft carriers, and much more. All of these weapons could be launched and hit their targets within less than 30 minutes. !!!!!!!

If it comes to that, here is just a very partial list of the first hour’s possible targets.

The authors of the warning mention invasions repulsed by Russian armies. They could have added Charles XII of Sweden who invaded Russia in January 1708 with the intension of marching on Moscow. Instead, he ended up in Poltava in western Ukraine where his army was defeated in July 1709. This ended Sweden’s empire.

The authors also omitted to mention the wars/invasions of Russia in the 1920 by the Armies of Intervention from a number of imperialist powers including the US and Britain.

What is happening in US foreign policy is what occurs when there is no viable opposition to the powers-that-be. Where is the anti-war movement, as was the case in Vietnam? Where is a responsible media? Why has the US now become ruled by a neo-Macarthyite groupthink.

Dangerous meglomaniacs now control US foreign policy absolutely unconstrained by any counter-vailing forces, this is the absolute antithesis of democracy, and could never happen in a genuine democracy.

The consequences of this soft dictatorship will be catastrophic. Hitler’s regime also allowed no opposition to the rule of the Nazis. The consequence of this was that Hitler decided to fight a simultaneous war against the combined forces of the United States, the USSR, and the British Empire, a policy that any sane person would have predicted to be a lunatic policy and complete failure. But what did reason and common sense have to do with it!

The contemporary USA is following the same path; led by a self-righteous, messianic clique grouped in the media, the think-tanks, the Pentagon, the State Department and the CIA, who imagine that they can win a war against the combined power of Russia and China in Washington, and suffer only minimal damage.

There is an eerie parallel here between the neo-cons and the jihadists, they are both, in their own estimation, warrior crusaders chosen by God to remake the world, where death would only be a passport to paradise. Like Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs they ‘are doing God’s work’ And if this means mass murder, then this must be carried out for the greater good.

Does it have anything to do with the baby-boomers, grown into the flower revolution guys and galls, then settling in conformist suburbia mind-numbed by tv, withdrawal into self-centered nihilism and so on? The decay of materialist capitalism reflected on amoral power elites.

Yes,that was a great amount of the problem. Coupled with unrestrained immigration that changed the make-up and mindsets pf the population base. Making it even easier for the elite to gain absolute control. Giving a hugely diverse population the image of being united as an “exceptional” nation. Likewise coupled with the elites gaining control over the educational system,and all forms of commercial media.That created the “Witchesbrew” of today, that the neo-cons use to keep power with, in the US. I believe its a part of their plans for the EU as well. Thinking, since the diversity they created in the US worked so well for them. It will in the EU too. It appears they are right so far. Whether they have “diversified” enough for it to totally succeed,is an open question.

Call a spade a spade. Multiculturalism does indeed create divisions and breaks down the sense of community with the nation seen in homogeneous societies. The power elite play that game to a tee – see how the Labour Party in the UK deliberately promoted immigration because the newcomers have a strong tendency to vote Labour.

Well, I am an immigrant twice over: a migrant in Australia from Norway, and a migrant in England from Australia. I am not a representative of ‘homogeneity’; I wouldn’t be on this thread if I were. I remember as a child how much I wished my country, Norway, were less culturally homogenous – I wanted to discuss things with Hindus, for a start. You may retort, “Be careful what you wish for!” but I had no problem at all accepting the various migrant and indigenous cultures in my adopted country Australia; I found them interesting and instructive and, I hope, they broadened my outlook and made me more cosmopolitan.

I am reminded of this passage from a little book, “After the Dreaming”, by W. E.H. Stanner (1905-1981), an Australian anthropologist, in his Boyer Lectures of 1968. One day, he happened upon

“an elderly [Aboriginal] widower whom I saw destroying something in a fire. I asked him what he was doing and he told me he was “killing his dreaming”. I had never seen or heard of anything like it before. There is nothing within our ken that remotely resembles it. He was destroying the symbol that kinked him with all the continuities of his people. It was a kin of personal suicide, an act of severance, bfore he came in to find a new life and a new identity amongst us” (p. 55).

This was my glimpse into what ‘cultural interface’ can look like.

So, maybe we should pause and think before we criticise ‘multi-culturalism’. We now know what political ‘uni-culturalism’ in the Western media looks like, where the news services across the Empire churn out the same messages and the same political ‘analyses’. We long for ‘difference’ and ‘diversity’ and ‘truth’. People here bemoan the influx of Moslem migrants, but one thing they have brought to England’s polity is a completely different political perspective: they (or their parents) have seen what suffering the Empire has wrought on their countries of origin in a way that we, as ‘indigenous’ inhabitants, can but try to imagine. When they question Tony Blair’s invasion of Iraq or Obama’s invasion of Libya, they know what they are talking about in a way that differs from our knowing-from-a-distance.

Of course I don’t defend sharia law, but it is up to our respective governments to take firm action against sharia law whenever it transgresses human rights, and it is up to us, as individuals, to engage Muslims in debate and develop Enlightenment sensitivities in them, maybe appealing to their collective memory of their more enlightened rule in Spain 600-700 years ago.

Excellent reply, I agree wholeheartedly. The obsession with, or rather, against ALL Muslims and the tribal, segregationist tendencies of the alt.right (or whatever you want to call it) is a recipe for disaster and plays into the divide and conquer strategy employed by the neo cons/libs to split any opposition to their diabolical plans. An infighting opposition is useless. Knee jerk demonizing is not rational or logical. It’s an emotional reaction that will be detrimental to survival in the long run.

Where did it all go wrong indeed. Probably with the Dulles brothers and the entrenching of the Deep State. Not that the U.S. didn’t have a moral reality and good governance problem, what with the Conquest, early Presidential assasinations, and Fed Reserve. However, that elitist clique deliberately, formally, institutionalized its removal from honest participation in American social evolution.

Any responsible opposition became perceived as ‘the enemy’ by elites within the otherwise legitimate security apparatus. To the point where bypassing the Constitution, the legit security apparatus, killing a President, and establishing an unconstitutional layer of shadow government, was completely logical rather than unthinkable insanity.

Once a critical mass of leaders cross that line of moral reason, the meme of exceptionalism – sociopathic entitlement – becomes the root of logic and raison d’etre forever fragmented from any deeper reality.

I’ve read that President Kennedy was assassinated by the CIA as a defensive manoeuvre because he had, after the Bay of Pigs fiasco, let slip that he was considering dissolving the CIA because of its incompetence. Book to read: “Plausible Denial”, by Mark Lane – a badly organised book but he eventually gets there. – Now the NSA has superseded the CIA and taken over the over-all coordination, and the CIA do the waterboarding, ‘enhanced interrogation’, and the sometime training of jihadis in camps in Jordan and Turkey; the Pentagon do the misinformation bit; and Britain’s government do the ‘extraordinary renditions’ taxi service. It is a mad, sad world.

“Where did it all go wrong?” – We have had the Anti-Capitalist and Occupy Wall Street demonstrations, all brutally put down by the police – tear gassing, pepper spray, manhandling, stress positions. America in the 1960s, during the Vietnam War and the Civil Rights movement, was bad enough, but America and its allies have by now fine-tuned their repression apparatus, including its means of mass surveillance, and it is now so much harder to register public protest. The press has been corralled into obedience and the same ‘news’ is being churned out from the same news agencies all across the American Empire. So, of course people’s political discernment suffers as a result – it’s what it’s supposed to do: psych warfare against knowledge, insight, and outrage. Psych warfare against their own people.

We still do have the Internet, and websites like the Vineyard of the Saker. Thank goodness. And the groundswell of support for Jeremy Corbyn as the new opposition leader in Britain shows that young people use the Internet and have absorbed the alternative news provided there, partly by people like us. Our task is, not to condemn or despair, but to educate and be a beacon of inspiration and support to everyone who harbour doubts about the prefabricated ‘news’ concocted by our ‘news sources’ and ‘opinion makers’. In the end, we shall prevail.

will share, this is heartbreaking. also reading the other piece by Peter Lavelle as well one of the last pieces by Alexandre Dugin on Katheon. He is putting thhis fear in perspective with US elections and neocons’ fear that TRUMP may win and sabotage their plans and to avoid this, Obama would trigger a hot war in europe to put next US president before a “fait accompli” situation….

06/01/2016 – 10:56
We have enough battalions to contain offensive Russia – learned the art of war by the Minister of Defence of Poland | Russian spring
Poland will be enough to place one battalion of NATO in the country to “contain Russian aggression,” he said in an interview with Defense News Defense Minister Anthony Macherevich.

Polish Defense Minister noted that the exact number of troops placed in the country and place of their dislocation is still under discussion.

NATO plans to deploy four battalions along its eastern Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland. battalion of the US Army is generally from 300 to 800 people.

This Macherevich admitted that if Russia invades Poland, the alliance forces can not cope with such a numerical superiority. But most importantly, according to Defense Minister strategy – it may stop the attack, and slow it down. As a result of the alliance will be able to gain time and organize a counterattack.

“From a military point of view, the problem is that we are 100 percent sure – NATO will fall back in case of aggression and later captured territory would have to win,” – said the Minister.
However, he added, thanks to rotary forces will be to preserve and defend the territory long enough to gather forces and allies retaliated.

At the same time, the same day, presidential spokesman Marek Magirovski said that Vashava rejected the idea of ​​placing permanent bases of foreign alliance partners in the country and noted that “it would be politically very difficult.”

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Thank you so much!! I pray that this claim reaches the right people and that God’s Willling there will be a hope for the awakening needed to counter this madness.
Many blessings to you all for this courageaus act.

I sincerely hope that saner minds will prevail. But I am very doubtful that it will happen. The lying manipulative Hillary Clinton -the front person- of the Anglo Zionist troika of Wall Street bankers, defense industry corporations, pharma industry and the neo conservative section of the USA are on a blind roll of dice. Putin and Gersimov should be always on the alert. In Putin, Russia has another equivalent of Peter the Great. Russia should be grateful for his leadership.

Stephen Cohen: Unprecedented NATO Mobilization – Looks Like War With Russia (Audio Podcast)
﻿The large-scale US-NATO amassing of military force on Russia’s Western borders, NATO’s “Eastern Front,” is unprecedented and creates the impression of preparation for actual war

Required listening
Originally appeared at The Nation
﻿Nation contributing editor Stephen F. Cohen and John Batchelor continue their weekly discussions of the new US-Russian Cold War. (Previous installments are at TheNation.com.)

This installment continues last week’s focus on the extraordinary US-NATO build-up of military forces—on land, sea, and in the air—on and very near Russia’s borders, the opening of, as Cohen terms it, “NATO’s Eastern Front.”

During the intelligence activities by the “Odessa” brigade it became known that military exercises under the auspices of NATO will be held on the territory of the Kherson region in the first half of June. Such countries as Ukraine, USA, Turkey, and other contingents of NATO forces will take part.

Military equipment and heavy weapons involved in the above event will arrive and be unloaded at the deep-sea ports of Odessa and Nikolaev. With the above mentioned ports, it will spill over into the territory of Kherson region, namely the venue of military maneuvers.

One of the notable nuances is that the Western-controlled media is silent about these exercises. This occurs despite the fact that previously such plans were preceded any public statements or publication in the news.

In addition, another factor is that the accumulation of troops and military equipment will be in close proximity to the state border with the Russian Federation, namely the Crimean Peninsula.

Also, attention should be paid to the fact that over the past week Israeli vessels, in very small volumes and with an urgent speed, exported concentrated vegetable oil and grain through the Nikolaev seaport. It was very similar to the desire in short notice to remove liquid assets from certain territories. At the same time, given the agility of the Israelis, all this can have an ulterior motive.

The “Odessa” brigade focused on the fact that because of a combination of the information received in light of the aggressive policy of the West, the vassal government in Kiev, and also the created and supported armed groups, it looks quite alarming. Thus, there is a definite probability of a possible aggravation of the military-political situation in the southern regions of Ukraine in the form of armed aggression against the Russian Federation, namely Crimea.”http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/05/information-released-on-june-nato.html

NATO really pushing the boat out here……………so much focus around the time of the Warsaw conference………look how successful we are……..

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The rise in defense spending among NATO states in Europe, motivated by an imaginary “Russian threat”, is a consolidating idea for Eastern Europe, which brings sense not only to the concept that Eastern Europe is part of the European Union, but to the whole idea of the EU, according to Valery Korovin, director of the Center for Geopolitical Studies.

“The forecast for 2016, based on figures from allied nations, indicates that 2016 will be the first year with increased defense spending among European allies for the first time in many, many years,” Stoltenberg told the newspaper.

“We are faced with uncertainty, we are faced with more threats, more security challenges than in a generation, and we need unity, we need strength, we need stability,” he added.

The Baltic states which border Russia have made the biggest changes. Latvia’s defense budget will rise nearly 60 percent this year. Lithuania will see a 35 percent increase and Estonia 9 percent. Poland, Eastern Europe’s main military power, is raising defence expenditures 9 percent, the NATO chief added.

t is reported by the press service of the National Security and Defense Council (NSDC) of Ukraine. “Today, at a meeting with military leaders and defense industry leadership has been tasked to significantly alter the parity of forces, to organize production of advanced unmanned aerial vehicles, capable of quickly finding the goal and point of defeating the enemy”, – stated in the National Security Council report.

“Bloody pastor,” as people call Turchinov for Sunday preaching in the Baptist church, said that several samples of unmanned combat use have been tested at the site.

“We already have a full-scale production of tactical unmanned systems, exploration and correction of fire, but so far there is no mass production of combat drones” – said Turchinov. Earlier, he said that Ukraine will soon plans to test military launches missiles Ukrainian production and regretted that in the military arsenal of the country has no nuclear weapons.”http://www.anna-news.info/node/58534
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Another incident occurred on May 29 in the waters of the Sea of ​​Azov, near the port of Mariupol. At 9 hours and 20 minutes in the morning and a half kilometers from the port quays in the air shot up two water column. It looks like a catcher mines hidden in the water column, or lying on the seabed.
The nature and causes of the accident is not yet precisely established. Aimed at professionals in Mariupol Sea mined tend to assume that in the port water area, in fact, could explode two anti-personnel mines.

It is known that such charges miners Naval Forces of Ukraine was set on the approaches to the port of Mariupol the summer of 2014. Then Command APU seriously feared that the city and the port will have to pass the Army DNI and therefore slow to take various measures that would impede the Donetsk People’s Republic of exploitation of sea harbors.

If the sea, near the port, in fact, exploded mines, they are likely to belong to the charges of the new models. The body of such mines mounted electronic self-killer that can cause an explosion of ammunition after a certain period of time, its length may be about two years.

In the area adjacent to the sea port of Mariupol, may be, and other mines, but how many of them, and what exactly the model they belong to, have nobody knows today. Among arranged two years ago min, may also be some that are equipped with self-killer. However, mines in the sea were installed without any order and without making at least a rough mining maps. Therefore, unexpected explosions under the sea water is not excluded in the future.

According to the same process that undermine Ukrainian fighters and land. Maps of minefields, placed the Ukrainian sappers, in command of the APU is not why to own the mines themselves undermined by punitive.”http://www.anna-news.info/node/58498

While there may be a provocation I sincerely doubt there will be an attack on Krim in any form. Every few months we hear dire warnings concerning orcs gathering their forces at the border, NATO will come to help the orcs take back Krim, the orcs will attack at the east and west border crossing with a sea assault at: Kerch, Alushta, Kachya, or even Sevastopol Harbor, so on and so forth.

Not going to happen. VVP has said several times that an attack on Sevastopol and/or Krim is an attack on Russia and the response will be the same as if the fools attacked St. Petersburg. He has also clearly said that, western wet dreams aside, there will be no discussions concerning Krim and Sevastopol, the case is closed, the citizens voted overwhelmingly to return to Russia and Russia honored that vote and request. Read done deal, engraved in stone.

While there may well be a war, I’m at 80% thinking yes, only a fool would attack Krim. If such an idiocy was to occur NAF (Novorossiya Armed Forces) will immediately surge west and destroy the entire orc army in a week at most and do so with savage gusto, well remembering what the orcs have done and are doing daily. That will open a vast land bridge down to Krim and the entire coast of the Black Sea from Yevpatoria in Krim all the way to the coasts of Bulgaria and Romania will be in Russian and NAF hands.

NATO does not have the ground forces to even contemplate an attack on Russia or for that matter Byelorus. Bundeswehr is but a shadow of it’s former self, France ditto, UK, double ditto. Poland can’t put a light division in action, Italy is in the same boat. That leaves US, whose armed forces, the tip of the spear, the ground combat forces, have been decimated in the last four years, large numbers of company grade officers and senior NCO’s have been urged to retire or summarily put out. PC is rampant through all the forces, even USMC, and giving a result of demoralization and a lack of focus on their primary task which is to fight, to break things and hurt people. Is NATO a paper tiger? No, not the US contingent, they are dangerous but there’s not enough of them by any stretch of the imagination and there is one more little fly in their ointment. They have not fought, win, lose or draw, any army the even remotely resembles the Russian Army since 1945.

Therefore in my opinion an attack on Russia will be using air assets, a combination of aircraft and missile forces. They will lose big time but the destruction during that loss will make the second war look like child’s play. That is the real tragedy of all this, the civilians and infrastructure will suffer mightily and it will be a half a century before they recover if they ever do. However, I have few doubts that there are those inside continental USA who are actively contemplating such a horrific possibility and my opinion is those who are doing so have no qualms about what they are trying to unleash.

The problem with Americans is that they sincerely believe their own bullshit. The whole Russia problem is based on a tsunami of bullshit which the establishment firmly believes. Voice a word of doubt and you are no longer one of the in crowd. Recite the popular blurbs and you are a visionary.

It’s a lot like the mania that gripped America in the run up to the Iraq debacle. There is no voice of dissent. Everyone wants this to happen.

trouble could be that it would only take a couple of crazed medjlis,or polish and georgian mercenaries plus those from Congo plus ex Daesh in Kherson to start something-I’m not so sure Rus would be so forgiving if a minor “mistake” was made-do I remember correctly some ukr troops went over the border then were handed back a little later,then some Rus “paratroopers” strayed over a border a while ago re Donbass??
I’m not sure what the current levels of tolerance are from or on either side now………….with Sav reinspiring Aidar etc etc!!

Good words from you regarding Krim and the boys from Donbass. I tend to coincide with your analysis.

There is one thing about the loons in the US who have been pushing for war with Russia. The facts on the ground being put in front of them (Obama, the Pentagon and the think tanks) are stunning news.
Every report from the Donbass battlefield for the great battles, the three huge cauldrons ending in Debaltsevo, as well as the lethality of the RF in Syria with a tiny force, but one that operated 24/7 and flew 10,000 sorties in 5 months, hitting 30,000 targets is mind-blowing to the West.

The truthdig into the reports highlights and bullet-points weapon systems the US can not defeat. The deadliness of counter-measures to the West’s offensive systems is the heart of most of the analysis.

In other words, the US brass now clearly has their own Intel that indicates the suicide mission they would be ordering if they tried attacking Russia anywhere. In Ukraine or the Black Sea region, the “war” would be the most devastating and the West’s army would resemble the Ukies after the cauldrons. Devastated and left in smoldering ashes. That’s without tactical nukes. The thermobaric arrays are sufficient to render whatever the West musters to useless metal, molten, almost unrecognizable.

I think we are in the final months of a possible “mistake”. But I think there are no US generals who would order an attack. The NATO structure is a bit different. Those dunces could misjudge. But then NATO would be destroyed at a cheap price.

It is impossible to successfully attack Russia. If you want to destroy the world, launch an attack.
I don’t think the warmongers are suicidal. Some religious lunatics on the far right are “Rapture” devotees. But they are not anywhere near the levers of power.

Obama wants a success on some battlefield. He has no chance whatever to do that against Russia.
The best he can do is to try to induce a Russian venture into Ukraine. Since Putin won’t do it, ordering the Ukies to massacre or thrust into Donbass is about all we will see.

Syria is Obama’s big muddy. He is desperate to take Raqqa. That thrust, an offensive on several directions toward Raqqa seems to be going nowhere.

He has hundreds of boots on the ground in Syria but that won’t get the job done. Again, he is running out of time.

And nothing in Syria would be conducive to attacking Russian forces. The West had its chance with the Turkey shoot down and immediate Russian reaction. The NATO/West/US/Obama reaction was constriction of their anal sphincters. Russia is too tough to deal with. Turkey was left to the mercy of Putin.

There may be an attack. It will not be strategic launch of ICBMs. It won’t be a daring limited EW-Cyber-Space, attempt to take the air over Russia. All those game plans end the world.

It will be no more than the Ukies on the final death march to Heavenly Glory. And that may actually be an exit strategy for the US. If the junta falls, the US can construct a new puppet regime.

Good post but I have to take issue with your blind faith in Trump. He is the “least worst” choice of two unpalatable candidates. Given that Trump is a blackbox candidate with no political track record we have no idea what he will do when/if in office. HRC does have a track record and it’s enough to make me certain that keeping her out of office should be priority #1 for Americans. However, counting chickens before they’ve hatched is a fools “strategy”. Look what happened with O’Bomber’s “hope and change” bait and switch. Trump is a loose cannon and all over the map AND he has pledged the usual fealty to Israel etc. But he is an outsider and not a member of the Dempublican establishment and that alone makes him preferable to part two of the Bill and Hillary neoliberal scam. But let’s not deify the guy just yet.

USA represents all that Nazism and Fascism once represented,the only difference is that USA has control over the biggest Media/Propaganda Machine and paints itself as the ‘Exceptional Nation’ which in the end is Pure Fascism …..

NATO Fascists will Destroy any Nation those doesn’t obey them … Hitler invaded countries but NATO Fascists change the Regimes if it is possible if not Bomb the Country using Pretext Human Rights, Democracy or Dictator, its a new kind of Fascism﻿

You’re absolutely right. USA is nowadays, the most CRIMINAL and GENOCIDAL country in the whole human history. Only if all countries together stop them we could have a solid chance to avoid going back to the Neolithic. But first, people has to wake up. You get out to the street, in any western country, and MOST of the POEPLE love USA, and I don’t mean loving the flag, McDonalds, or hero movies, I mean they totally buy what Obama says, it is just incredible, we are just sheep going to slaughterhouse, as William Cooper once said, most of us are sheeple.

Cognitive Dissonence is a powerful flaw in human adults. The Stockholm Syndrome. We create a fantasy instead of facing truth when it is too anxiety provoking. It may originate with infant parent bonding. It goes both ways that the infant loves the parent even if abusive. The parent loves the child even if naughty.
God or evolution created a nightmare in this human tendency.
Those who lack empathy band together and dominate. I had to face the sad truth of the impossibility waking people up long ago. It’s easier to fool people than admit you’ve been fooled. A few of us are awake but not sociopaths. I’m not sure why that is.

The problem for the Azion Empire if Russia joined Nato is that it would lose a boogie man to frighten the children with, and that is the very reason why Nato exists.

The same situation arose when Nato was set up in 1948. During one of the many conferences about the post-WWII configuration for Europe, Molotov suggested that the USSR should also join Nato. He knew the answer but he wanted a bare-faced admission that Nato was set up to make the USSR the enemy.

Brave and eloquent and hopefully effective letter Saker.
Heartfelt thanks.
I will share with friends.

So even more I hope in ETs.
One thing we could all do is break down the psyop ridicule barrier over UFOs and start pushing for full disclosure.
Everyone should at minimum watch the trailer for ‘UFOs and Nukes’

That’s what I told you many times here, but the opposite was continued to get claimed.
Very sad that it was like this.
And a million times more sad, that the current administration of Russia doesn’t have such plans, nor any plans to finally bring back justice, nor any plans to undo the theft that the Oligarchy has committed on the people since 1991.

MOSCOW, June 1. / TASS /. Europe is being turned into a region that radiates not well-being but instability, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov said at a meeting with Russian non-governmental organizations.
“We are witnesses to major changes in the international scene,” he said. “Russia is part of the global world and it is changing right before our eyes.”
Lavrov said new centers of growth and influence were emerging and gaining strength, including the Asia-Pacific Region above all.
“Also we observe such an extraordinary phenomenon as Europe’s transformation into a region that radiates not traditional well-being, but instability,” Lavrov said.

sounds like he still has to find the right language to speak in to Eu, maybe like he was recorded as saying to Saudi(perhaps) f…… w…… last year-particularly as Merkel says
BERLIN, June 1. / TASS /. German Chancellor Angela Merkel so far sees no reason to cancel or mitigate the sanctions against Russia imposed over the Ukrainian crisis, this depends on the implementation of the Minsk agreements, deputy spokesperson for the German government Christiane Wirtz told a press briefing on Wednesday.
“The German government believes it is important, above all, to make progress in the implementation of the Minsk (agreements). We are waiting for the results, there is no time to be lost. There are still some points that need to be complied with, “she said.
“In view of this, from the standpoint of the chancellor, there is no reason to think about the cancellation of the sanctions,” Wirtz added. She noted that the decision on restrictive measures had been taken by the entire European Union.

FWIW, I think this particular earthly plane is a form of Purgatory.
“Long life” is something I wish to evil people, preferably in a cage somewhere.

I saw a video interview of a Romanian Orthodox priest that was thrown into solitary by the tribe. They thought that by removing him from literature and human contacts he would go insane. To the contrary, he reflected that it was the best time in his life. He devoted it to prayer.

One can’t help but wonder what’s behind the sudden attempt to panic the sheeple herds. Who are they trying to impress really? Is it to panic the Russian comprador class ahead of the September Russian Duma elections? Something to do with co-opting or unseating Trump? Force Putin to make a mistake?

The elites need this hysterical buzz in the air to convince someone of something, and the opinions of ordinary people don’t usually matter except at election time.

“Shock and awe! US and British military join forces with Turkish armed services for major manoeuvres featuring air, land and sea
Turkey has carried out its largest-ever multinational military exercise featuring US, British and Saudi contingents
Helicopters carried out mock raids, ships were deployed to a beach head and explosions occurred on land
Other allies to participate in Ankara’s show of force included Azerbaijan, Germany, Qatar, Pakistan and Poland
By COREY CHARLTON FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 20:39, 31 May 2016 | UPDATED: 22:28, 31 May 2016

“Following the US Russia admitted that up to 93% of militants Islamists in Turkey sends Syria. Erdogan has long turned his country into a major center of international terrorism, and it is no surprise that the country roof terrorist international begins to use terrorist methods in the fight against its own population.
Today we will show how Turkish tanks and helicopter gunships are compared with the land peaceful neighborhoods Kurdish city of Nusaybin.”http://www.anna-news.info/node/58449
google translate

Good article. I however doubt it will be known to masses who will continue getting daily dose of kool aid.
I also think that considering current Russia conventional capabilities possible conflict does not have to turn nuclear. Nobody is THAT crazy even those neocons.
Russia can reach US cities using perfectly conventional warheads now. It is important. Any possible conflict would take place on Russian or near Russian territory and hence using nukes by NATO on Russia would mean Russia would nuke USA. hence, I do not think anybody in NATO that crazy to let this happen. Most importantly, I do not believe military men are that crazy.

Sorry, but this “Sergey” is not I, who write here under that same name frequently, so I suppose some disambiguation might be in order, what do you think? May I suggest some suffix added to the name for the new writer, perhaps digit “2” – or “1” – or whatever else? Not a matter of essence, but might avoid unnecessary confusions in future conversations here.The new Sergey has been given the number2. Mod

That’s a good point. I’d like to see this article in major publications. It needs to reach mass numbers of people (similar to Putin’s NYT article. Not that it worked. But at least it was seen by many people.). Now I’m quite aware that it would be “almost” impossible to get it into the US MSM. But at least it should be put on RT. And other Russian media outlets. It might then “seep” out into the World’s MSM.

Another idea as well. Trying to get some of the leading US “dissidents” (like those mentioned in the article) to co-sign the article. Yes,they aren’t Russians. But they would have more of a name recognition to Western and US readers. So “maybe” it would be more “believed”.

As an American, I’m regularly disgusted by the actions of my government. It seems that what passes for foreign policy is a regular cycle of lies, bluster and provocation. The main goal seems to be to grab ever increasing amounts of taxpayer dollars. Whenever the politics of the country seem to be leading towards cuts to the defense, intelligence or ‘homeland security’ parts of the budget, then the lies, bluster and provocations escalate to even new heights until no longer is there any talk of cutting these areas of the budget.

One thing that can be seen in the fall of any empire is that court politics and schemes to grab money and power become far more important to the people in the government than any sensible policies. And the question of what’s good for the common people becomes the lowest of the low priority. Thus, what worries more is not that the US government is being deliberately insane in marching the world ever and ever closer to world war III, but that they will simply blunder such a disaster while chasing a scheme to grab a bit more power or another pile of money.

I haven’t voted for candidates supporting these policies since 2004. The people I’ve supported for President since have been Cynthia McKinney of the Green Party, Ron Paul from the Libertarian Wing of the Republican Party, and Jill Stein of the Green Party. I’ll almost certainly again vote for Jill Stein. And I’ve been a regular supporter and outspoken backer of her on the internet and amongst my family and friends. I’ve voted Green or Libertarian in every Congressional race during this same time. I was a part of the Occupy protests.

We knew in the 1980’s that even a small nuclear exchange would mean the end of human civilization like we’ve known it. The EMP bursts would destroy electronics that wasn’t specially protected, and nuclear winter from even a few nuclear blasts would destroy the food and underpinnings of this society. The people at the Bulletin of Atomic Scientists have their famous Doomsday clock at 2 minutes to Midnight, and they are saying that we are as close as we’ve ever been to total disaster.

There was very popular tv-program in Finnish Broadcasting Company (YLE) about F-35 as disaster option for Finnish Air Force. Foreign estimates for life cycle (30 years) price of 64 F-35’s would be about (or likely at least) 30 billion €. This is well known fact but now first time published to all Finns. Reaction was common outrage among population. However the most important message came from former inspector of anti-aircraft forces, high commander who totally debunked the hype and importance of combat aircraft giving air cover for troops, military centers etc. He mentioned that in 21st century warfare it’s more likely that 99% of aircraft will be shot down by anti-aircraft weapons, not by aircraft fighters. Colonel Ahti Lappi, experienced officer, totally debunked the myth of high techno air warfare. In new reality combat aircraft are becoming much more cannon fodder than air force fanboys are claiming. Tv program generally was learning curve for public while honest military experts have known this facts for years. Glad that politicians got something to think about. So far they have wondered in smoke.

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A sweet-sounding idea of the Washington Post’s seems to turn sour when you get down to the details. Here’s the story:

“The Washington Post introduces its new ‘Global Opinions’ section which greatly expands the Post’s mix of viewpoints by adding contributing columnists and fresh voices from major regions across the world.” That was the lead of a May 24 story announcing the new initiative.

At first glance this seems like the Post is finally turning away from a slanted and parochial form of journalism. Presenting readers with a “mix of viewpoints” actually sounds like dedication to a pluralism of views is emerging.

But the next line calls that impression into question:

“The initiative first launches in Europe, where it will be anchored by Pulitzer Prize-winning writer Anne Applebaum…”
My goodness, I just wrote a very critical article about Applebaum, “Are Anne Applebaum and Ed Lucas Phonies or Just Innocently Insane?”. Was I operating under a wrong impression of her journalistic ethics? Or has she had an epiphany and dramatically changed her long-established ways?

Jiri, attacking Turkish troops on Syrian soil would not be a casus belli, as Russia would be there at the request of the internationally-recognised sovereign Syrian government, and NATO can only be invoked with an attack on a member’s country, not invasion forces. The US propaganda machine will try and spin it as Russian aggression, but it will not be a legal case for war.

The history of the main NATO partners clearly explains the fascist activity and mentality of this criminal organization.
During the occupation of the American continent European bandits killed about 25 mln. American Indians, the others have been put in concentration camps Reservation where they have been kept until now, which is the Nazi style crime.
During World War II in retaliation for the bombing of London, British and US Air Forces dropped bombs on Dresden and other German cities killing more than 100,000 civilians, including children. Many children were burned alive.
March 10 1945 during the US bombing of Tokyo with 500 tons of incendiary bombs M-69 stuffed with napalm; over 300,000 civilians, including children, were killed.
In 1945 to avoid combat activities, army losses and force Japan to surrender, America dropped two nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. At the same time America had a plan to drop 12 more nuclear bombs on other major cities in Japan, if Japan did not surrender. About 200,000 civilians, including children, were killed and burned alive.
In 1949, Churchill demanded that the US government drop a nuclear bomb on Moscow before the Soviet Union acquires the nuclear weapon.
In 1959, USA developed a plan for a nuclear attack on the USSR major cities, Moscow, Leningrad and others. At that time, America had 10 times more nuclear weapons than the Soviet Union. In 1964, the US government tried to implement the plan, but a pure accident prevented that.
In 2009, NATO has developed a new plan for attack on Russia with nuclear weapons.
During the Vietnam War, America used napalm and chemicals against the civilian population; 3.8 mlns were killed, which is equivalent to genocide (sputniknews.com/us/20160330/1037172102).
In 1999, NATO bombed Serbia day and night without a break for a month using bombs with depleted uranium. The goal was the creation of the never-existed islamofascist state Kosovo on the land belonged to Serbs for centuries.
Over million citizens, including children, have been killed by NATO’s bandits in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria.
It should be noted that all the years’ military doctrine of America, Britain, France and NATO has been based on one principle: the total extermination of the civilian population in order to force the enemy’s army and the government to lay down arms. In other words, NATO and its main partners are criminals and must be brought before the international court.

“During World War II in retaliation for the bombing of London, British and US Air Forces dropped bombs on Dresden”

The bombing on London was retaliation for the British bombing of German cities, namely Hamburg.
The bombing of Dresden, a city with no military targets and no air-raid defence, and a home for 600,000 refugees, was an act of savagery even greater than Hiroshima and Nagasaki combined. When survivors of the inferno (4,000 tons of incendiary bombs dropped on the city in two days) jumped into the river, Bomber Harris and the USA’s Mustangs strafed them mercilessly in continuous runs of machine-gun fire and the water turned red. And it happened on 15-17 February 1945 when Germany was utterly defeated.

Nobody is going to fire anything. And the Russians, I believe, would not need their well-known war heroism to be deployed any time soon. However, the US PSYOP specialists are working hard to exhaust Russian counterpart’s — and everybody else — by making sure nobody knows this truth. So, inductive-historical thinking may not do the work when trying to penetrate in the manipulative minds and computers of the Psy-war manufacturers of the empire.

” Much of Russia’s recent economic success has a lot to do with the shedding of former Soviet dependencies, allowing her to pursue a “Russia first” policy. ”

It is true that the soviet republics of central Asia were depended on heavy subsidies from Moschow.

Now they rely on remittances from illegal immigrants working in Russia. Local communist party bosses became “dictators” for life, seizing and “privatizing” the soviet state property.

The level of development achieved during the soviet period was far higher compared to the present sad condition of these central Asian states. In countries such as Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan etc , GDP per capita levels are lower now than the year 1990.

The Russian economy (and society) was also obliterated during the 1990s period. Because of high oil prices and Putin’s firm policies, some stability was achieved. But the damage is not reversed. Vast state wealth was looted. Millions became unemployed as industrial complexes shutted down or were sold cheaply to foreign multinational corporations. What exists of the present Russian Industry is in decline and it is unlikely to revive (as long as present policies remain ).

Firmly separated, not P3. If Medvedev is promoting public-private initiatives, then its a mistake that will cripple genuine Russian private enterprise and People’s trust in government as democracy is compromised by neoliberal any-excuse-for-shadenfreud economics.

Look at any Western economy (when they were working, anyway) and there is a balance of public and private initiative. The State covered what was not profitable, too risky for private enterprise, or to too destabilizing for the free market, whether starting an industry from scratch, vital public works not immediately profitable such as schools and libraries, or monopoly public utilities.

For the longest time, private and public sector did not mix, a separation perhaps as vital as the separation of investment banks and traditional deposit banks was and still is. Like the Glass-Steagal separation, all that began to erode in the 1970s and 80s.

The socio-economic poison of private-public partnerships combines the worst of crony capitalism and crony politics. Like fascism, its the dangerous union of corporate and state power, one insulating the other from check and balance. Corporations are freed from market risk, and governments are freed from effective public accountability, united in cronyism.

When democratic capitalist societies were working at their best, the separation of public and private enterprise perhaps as vital to the functioning of the economy as separating Church and State is for politics.

We still have mutually assured destruction between the US and Russia nothing has changed from the heady days of the USSR.

This has stopped nuclear war but it depends of sane people in positions of power. America is crumbling as can be seen in the rise of Obama. People are more ignorant than ever before. I doubt the war would begin as a clash between the US and Russia. More like Nato allies such as Turkey and someone in the middle east. The real wild card is lose nuclear weapons or Muslim bombs
courtesy of Pakistan.

When I hear the Soviet/Russian national Anthem to me it is the sound of a proud great nation and one with which I wish we had as close relations as the US and Japan or England.

Russia is not our enemy. In fact we have many common enemies including Obama.

“The rise of Obama” lol (as they used to say) You do realize O’Bomber is just part of the Dempublican Establishment Party apparatus, right? True, his reign was not a good thing for the US or the world but would it have been any different if Hillary or McCain had won in 2008? Given that Hillary and McCain are birds of a feather (i.e. batsh_t insane) Obama was marginally better. At least he didn’t ok a direct war against Syria and publicly said the Libya fiasco was his lowest moment. Yes, he endorsed Hillary in 2016 and is an all around nasty piece of work but he doesn’t have supernatural powers that let him control the establishment and make it bend to his will. When the stakes are this high seemingly insignificant differences become a matter of life and death.

Hello
what about Italy in all of this ? I’d like to know what could be expected in such an extreme event like this. Common people still question the presence of US forces in Aviano, Ghedi, Pisa, Naples and other bases. It’s said we (they) have 70 tactical nuclear warheads spread here and there and of course, as a Country rejecting the nuclear we’re even more than worried about the possibility of an unwanted retaliation. Which are policies from both sides ? What can be done to avoid an attack that would annihilate a Country which, besides the tenths of millions people involved, also owns alone more than half of the UNESCO sites ?

You wrote: “What can be done to avoid an attack?”
Start public protests and demand removal of NATO bases from Italy.
President Putin clear stated that only those countries that host NATO nuclear missile sites are the targets.
The best defense is to have 0 NATO troops in your country.

Most of that black bioweapon stuff in the research stage should die in storage, assuming the sites aren’t nuked. There shouldn’t be any loaded and ready to go by treaty.

The odd time the news discusses research on pathogens, the stuff is usually seen kept in refrigerated storage – unlikely to survive a loss of power – while test animals are kept in sealed cages.

However, the entire industrialized and semi-industrialized world has vast amounts of toxic conventional industrial waste in holding lagoons and such, more than just nuclear. Sites all dependent on human maintenance.

Radiation barely made the news at Fukushima, but one has to wonder what washing all Japan’s industrial waste on that coast into the oceans is doing and where it all is ending up. Its barely mentioned at all except vague admonitions to be careful of Japanese debris washing up on the west coast.

You, and I took the same oath. I took my commissioning oath over 40 years ago while you may have taken yours today. If you’ve forgotten your oath allow me to refresh your memory:

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.[1]

Now I ask the military officers of the United States, do you see anything in your oath that binds you to blind obedience to the orders of sociopathic lunatic politicians? No, I don’t think you do. Your oath, our oath was written this way for a reason: We are the last line of defense. If we fail then our nation, our people, our constitution, and the world will be destroyed.

Our oath obligates us for life; there is no time limit. Think about it.

just about every civil servant, cop, down to dog-catcher takes oath. has not stopped crimes against USC… Oath is mere ritual for “modern” people. Such times! The moral rot and masses of propaganda sweep all away.

XRGRSF there are nearly 200 comments in this thread and several dozens that are worth replying to, at least. However, I choose yours. Why? Because:

1. You are retired military, yet plenty awake enough to come on to a pro-Russian site, and as an American living in California, I think I have some chance of getting a few key concepts across to you.

2. Getting a few concepts across to you, and through you, to other ex-military or serving military is one of the most promising levers I can think of, and have been thinking of for some time. Also getting feedback from you would be very valuable. Why?

3. Because military men are “order takers” (how else could military work…it can’t work any other way, under present conditions of human consciousness, obviously……) and like you, try to imagine that the order givers, in the government, are in some way representing the American people and the Constitution. However, you seem to be awake to the fact that this may not be the case anymore. You are right! However, it hasn’t been the case for probably a whole lot longer than you have realized.

For starters, please review this old interview from one of your own, Colonel Fletcher Prouty:

https://youtu.be/bCGxutt7GiQ This interview will shed light for you and others on many, many things from 1942 onwards that you may not know yet, but which could stop WW III if you and many thousands of people like you did know them.

I’ll just mention one of a few dozen in the interview: Col. Prouty’s discussion with pro-Nazi East European officers being evacuated to the USA in late 1944 or early 1945 before takeoff from an airfield in Damascus, Syria on a US armed forces troop transport airplane that he commanded. . If that doesn’t get you to watch the entirety of the interview, nothing will.

4. This of course will easily explain the US connection to NAZI elements used in the Kiev Maidan, but more fundamentally, it will lead you to an investigation of how an excellent, top notch military, the German Wehrmacht was taken over, miscommanded, and destroyed by the same occulted forces that not only threaten to use the military of the United States in a completely analogous fashion to the way they used Germany’s armed forces, as one big geopolitical ass-wipe. Here’s a documentary on some of the elements that took the quality of a man like Erwin Rommel, who took his own life after his correct attempt to murder Hitler was betrayed by British Intelligence, and destroyed not only him , but his nation: https://youtu.be/V1LZm4SeiWY You don’t wan things to go that far here and now, 71 years later.

5. The problem is, professional order takers are not inclined, by nature to delve deeply into these subjects. Neither are many of the very analytical types that post very interesting analysis on this site and others. My background is eclectic enough, giving me enough diffrent perspectives from which to view matters like these, that in all modesty, comparing myself to others, I have very little trouble of the sort that they seem to have, in not recognizing the key importance, for example of the 911 flight numbers, 11, 93, 175 and 77. When I hit a gold nugget (and that is one sir, as I shall prove, if given the opportunity…………though it may be time to re-write my old Feb comment on the subject…………the only people here that showed a twinkle of recognition, so far, have been CI, eh? (on sabbatical, studying this stuff, I hope …..haven’t seen him in many weeks) and Vercia V, though some real heat in the kitchen here (Moveable Feast Cafe a week or so ago) have not exactly made us into real close collaborators in the last week or so. Anyway, that old, somewhat rambling post was here: http://thesaker.is/is-there-a-crack-in-the-dam-holding-back-the-truth-on-syria/comment-page-1/#comment-213733 Skip over the Dylan, get to the numbers and don’t laugh yet. I assure you, they are no accident, but they are enemy code. And people who are not interested in enemy code, in a very real war, are superstitious children.

I agree, it’s time to update that comment, as I have learned a lot more in 4 months.

6. But first, for you and anyone else, I suggest that his little 7 minute video be viewed as the very first priority, as anti-freak-out, anti-weird-out, spiritual armor, before entering the real spiritual battle field:

so that some perspective is gained on these matters that pertain to an area most people are very , very uncomfortable with, understandably. But not the Occult Bureau of British Intelligence, who ran that Austrian Hippie A. Hitler, and runs our neocons and Breedlove and the former ISIS CZAR, John Allen. And whether they realize it or not, is not the issue. Stick with this a few hours, and you can realize it. I hope to talk with you again.

From now on, in an effort to be more concise (I think I got a message from mods or Saker asking me to be more “economical and ecumenical”……..) I will just go by Bro, and no longer Bro Anon.

Also, before I leave you, once again, may I quote Dr Kissinger: “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals that we use as pawns in foreign policy.”

Time for order followers to take a much , much closer look at who hijacked their high command in Washington DC and London, don’t you think???

Trouble is, Dr K’s just an evil, egotistical, perverted pawn too. He’s not the high priest of nuthin’. He’s Just one of their many evil minions.

One must understand that the US believes it can defeat Russia by fighting a conventional war on two fronts: Ukraine and the middle east – or in a limited nuclear war by destroying Russia’s capability to retaliate. What most of the US fails to grasp at all is that Russia understands it cannot win a conventional war on two fronts and simply won’t fall into that trap. Nor will it ever be defeated by a nuclear first strike, which has been the US plan for a generation.

More critically, Russia and China have the national will, and now the strength, to stand against US hegemony; and while the US public doesn’t have the political will to engage in a nuclear war, they don’t think it is a real possibility. They are told that it can’t happen here we have Russia ‘surrounded’.

The people who own the media control the message. Those same people also own the politicians and the money supply. They don’t care if 85% of the world is destroyed as long as they own the ashes. They call that Patriotism and Capitalism – but it is greed, insanity and the personal egos of those in power.

A warning is good – but the people who need to hear and understand it are insulated in ivory towers and won’t listen.

Hello everyone
you know what ? I really can’t stand someone really willing to use nukes for whatever reason, let alone (maybe) counteracting aliens, but I think also in that case they would probably find the way to use them against us.
I wish Obama, then Putin and anyone has a nuclear warhead somewhere would understand how immensely worse and evil is the use of nuclear bombs. Warmongers have an orgasm just thinking to annihilate the enemy, but the truth is they simply don’t know which kind of hell they’re going to evocate. Really. We’re not talking about “MOAB, FOAB” or other similar devices. For as powerful they are, they would remain in a “logical” (? is there any logic in war ?) and conventional warfare. But no, nukes are something well beyond every worst nightmare one can has. We’re not only killing everyone on Earth but condemning those who remain to a miserable life at best. Millions of innocent people, all over the world, that have no fault for generals and politicians and greedy men behind the mirror (deus ex machina). Such individuals should be banned or executed immediately from the society. I really wonder how such a Constitution from the US can be openly violated by people in charge. I don’t know what others Countries say about war, yet Italy openly refused / repudiate war in its very first articles of its Constitution as well. We want peace. However, should you be ever interested in anything I write, I confess I’m quite worried for the upcoming Feb 2nd, 2017, thursday and I will likely be at home with my dears.

I agree with your sentiments except for the fact that clear cut evidence: FOIA US and USSR military documents and credible retired military witnesses testimonies is that aliens/extraterrestrials have been trying to PROTECT us from nuclear weapons, not invade us.

That is one reason warmongers try and keep the UFO topic “above top secret” and spread the ridicule psyop.

Just to correct Patricia’s comment that one of big shot in Israhell declared some time ago officialy in the medias that IF Israhell will be going to the drain, where it belongs really, they take whole world with them. The U.S. is helping it to happen because soone or later that zionis monster will stop to egzist. So be it.

I believe Bibi is already aware that Russia will completely annihilate not only the US but UK, Is real and possibly France and Germany depending on what the KGB knows about their stance in the war. Even if Russia does not strike at Is real, once it’s a world war, I believe Iran will strike because Iran is aware of what will happen to them should US and Russia destroys themselves and Israel survives.

And if you don’t like torture tactics such as Gitmo Gulag waterboarding; CIA rectal feeding techniques; naked male pyramids (ala Abu Ghraib); coup d’etats dressed up as pro-democracy movements; kidnapping/extraordinary rendition in violation of international law; NSA domestic spying; covert backing of moderate Islamic head-choppers like Al-Nusra Front and ISIS; or wars of aggression based on lies about Weapons of Mass Destrucion, terrorism, or human rights, then you should pack your bags and move back to Mother Russia.

Totally agree , we will burn and from the ashes will rise the truly new millennium unless a devine intervention . History repeats itself and mankind never learns from the errors of the past . Time to face reality and do what must be done and may god help all of us .

this is material 10 yrs old. You may not believe me but already in 2005 and later on in 2007 there are messages (supposed from Mary) already mentioning the Eagle (USA) the Dragon (China), the Bear (Russia) and the Lion (Iran)

It may seem like a foolish question but why the code names like, ‘Dragon’ and , ‘Eagle’ ? It makes Our Lady sound like an Intelligence Operative? Why not simply say what she means?

I am not saying that the messages are false but it seems reasonable to ask a question like this. Code names lead to guessing games and I wonder what the point of it all is, like a Celestial cross word puzzle. Again I don’t want to seem hard but the use of such code words gives very considerable room for sliding out from under particular predictions.

I have racked my name for an approved apparition site were code words are used and cannot think of one. It makes me think we are getting transmissions from Langley.

Well,
even if you don’t trust the Bible, should you have ever read it, you’d know this is the way it has always spoken, this has nothing to do with intelligence, and the guy, Pedro Regis, is – just exactly as many many others – broadcasting all of this since a much longer time, well before such things were even known.

If you put together the points: Fatima (100 yrs next one), Medjugorje, Garabandal, Kibeko, Anguera and many others, you’ll see how many things coincide, and it’s people who has never encountered each other and living in very different places of the world.
Starting from Katrina Emmerich in 1800, the last century has been full of warnings saying the same things. This is not a hoax. Something is going on and for what > I < know, most of what might happen is theoretically expected within the next 12-18 months at most. So stay alert. I'll share any news that I can have from this side because if real (material) things and celestial things are going to collide, it's obvious we can't just pass over it.

Oh, I am so happy you wrote and posted this! I hope it goes viral. Amsterdam was buzzing all day and could not figure out why once I left my flat. China’s statement of “No!’ to US demands and how it was worded, the trip to be taken to the Russian Economic Forum by the German Minister then the 50% drop in support for Angela in Germany, and way before these, the Netherlands referendum.

The efforts to silence me got way worse and may continue for sure, but because of the vast US debt, and the disaster the US superstructure and healthcare, police state police have criminally become, maybe I have a chance. My son and his family too..all of us were to be erased, all records of us destroyed because my dad advised the World War Queen. His records are gone.I took his place.

Hello everyone
it seems my previous comment got lost – or I hope not to have made any mistake.
I only wanted to spot for you that some of what is discussed here (and the exact actors) were named from 2005 to 2007 to 2010 in several messages supposedly given by the Virgin Mary to a viewer in Brazil, Anguera. Should you mind to check for yourself, just google “anguera” “bear” (Russia) “eagle” (USA) “dragon” (China) “lion” (IRAN) and notice it’s also mentioned explicitly UKRAINE (!)

“the others have been put in concentration camps Reservation where they have been kept until now, which is the Nazi style crime.”

I am not going to defend the conquest of what is now the United States, but I have to point out that Native Americans are not “kept” on reservations. Native Americans are free to move around the country like any other citizen, free to own land like anyone else who can afford it. I work alongside many Native Americans, some of whom own homes, which is more than I can say for myself.

In regard to the Perimeter system, the reference you post is incorrect.

tom Nichols is wrong about Perimeter, it is a semi-automated system that includes a launch crew that decides to push the button. It is NOT fully automated, it involves launch officers making the final decision to launch. Colonel Valery Yarynich described the process in his book, Nuclear Command, Control, Cooperation; Yarynich was involved in designing the system and was a member of the Soviet General Staff.

There are three criteria for launch; the first is a preauthorization from the General Staff, followed by a loss of communication with the General Staff over all redundant channels (radio, fiber optic, land line), and finally confirmation of nuclear detonation via detection systems, including optical, seismic, and radiological. If all these criteria are met within a strictly defined time frame, then the launch crew is authorized to launch the Emergency Communication Rockets, which will broadcast the launch order to all surviving nuclear forces.

You can look it up in Yarnich’s book. I worked with him for a number of years; he told me (before he died a few years ago) that as far as he knew, the system was still operational.﻿

Mother Russia murdered her own children just like Saturn ate them. If the Fing mother strikes she will choke on US fallout. Nah this sounds more like wishful thinking by sore losers. Communism is a dead horse you can stop beating it! No more false flag rhetoric – Russia is controlled by the same hidden hand.

Nuclear fallout would be a problem. Penelope on a prev article posted her similar view that China and Russia are in the game. Deep State and white hats vs black hats, it’s a complex world for sure. I also note inconsistencies in the Alternative Media view of all this. It seems the NWO players were given an initial piece of the pie but are still coming to equilibrium. The recent wrangling is perhaps just fine tuning in the terms of the latest NWO contracts for oil and water etc. The former NWO bullies play quite a tough version of hardball and I’m sure have more dirty tricks than Fukushima at their disposal to twist any arm they can and more methods than my brain can imagine. 1. US gave China manufacturing and hence industrial secrets per Roberts and perhaps gold bars as JWillie attests for many years 2. Iran sanctions relieved by Kerry and Obama and making contracts with Big Oil Texas style. 3. Russia left Syria somewhat unexpectedly. 4. US fighter jets are way too expensive and seemingly flawed, yet someone must be profiting and not worried 5. RT may tell some truth but spews out the same NWO garbage as the rest and doesn’t expose 911 and Fukushima. 6. I know I don’t compromise on my core values but almost everyone else I ever met does. If world leaders can be blackmailed, threatened, or suicided at will, then it’s sad to admit but it’s hopeless because of human nature. A new Hegemony will rise up, Different but ruthless all the same.
7. Every blog I ever read became compromised by the Psy Op guys. Fukushima Diary bit the dust. And Stew Webb became paranoid. Still this site has interesting comments. Becareful of moderators. If they are dirty they can sabatague any site and can be expert manipulators if the site is good they will sic the best of the best on it. Jim Stones moderators ruined his forum years ago. He was right about Fukushima I think.

One important action that could be taken to help prevent nuclear war is for the leaders of all the nuclear weapon states, especially those in the US and Russia, to publicly acknowledge and discuss the scientifically predicted consequences of nuclear war, especially nuclear war between the US and Russia.

The scientists predict that any large nuclear war will essentially leave the Earth uninhabitable. Nuclear firestorms will form a global stratospheric smoke layer that will surround the Earth, destroying the protective stratospheric ozone layer and blocking enough sunlight to create Ice Age weather conditions in a matter of weeks. It would be colder than it was at the height of the last Ice Age; temperatures would be below freezing every day for 1 to 3 years in Iowa and central Eurasia. The smoke layer would remain for a decade or longer and food crops could not be grown during this time. Most humans and animals would starve to death.

The staff members of the Obama administration have turned down multiple requests from the scientists to provide a briefing on these findings. It is not clear that top US political and military leaders are even aware of these studies and predictions.

I was able to provide copies of these studies to the Russian Ambassador at the United Nations several years ago. Russian translation of these studies also appear at the Strategic Arms Reduction website of the Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology http://www.armscontrol.ru/start/ , so I have some hopes that the Russian leadership is aware of them.

I would suggest that it would be very useful for Putin to make a speech about these predictions, about the consequences of nuclear war, since this would force the US and other NATO member states to respond to it. Perhaps the destruction of the human race would be a useful starting point for negotiations? Without such public acknowledgement and recognition of the existential threat of nuclear war, we will continue to move blindly towards the end of human history.

Agree. I think some of the guys out there were never removed from their Playstation to come back to reality. They seem lusting for a nuclear outcome but none of them (as of us) has never really faced the hellish face of such an option. In the end, they aren’t better than Kim Jong Un or anyone else looking for the war only for the sake to feel God on Earth. They will rather become the devil.

History seems to be repeating itself. Sad but true. . The New York stock exchange is over valued to the tune of 540 trillion dollars . In 2007 before the Us banking crisis it was over valued to the tune of 120 trillion dollars. Western so called capatolist system is slowly dying as we speak for most political and economic analyst will all concord that the western democracy is all but in word. its really a corporate state. Lo Stato Corporato was written by Mussolini it is the modern day fascist manual. Hence to my point. Seeing that the western sytem is so heavily indebted they have three options up their sleeves just like they had in the years leading up to the the second world war. Restructure the debt, or write off the debt or off to war we go. . I myself think that the US/Nato r bluffing the Russians and the Chinese knowing full well of the mutual destruction phenomena, but history tells me that the anglo-zionist r so full off themselves that only ALLAH knows what these vile cretins r capable off. The Us know full well the military capacity and superiority the Chinese and the Russians have over them. Russian supersonic and electronics r superior to the west. The Chinese have submarine technology that the Us can only dream of and Docius in fundum, last but not least the only gold backed currencies in the world r based in the capitols of Tehran,Beijing and Moscow, the rest of the western currencies r just vapour money based and over leveraged capitol and real estate bubble. Yesterdays news gets wrapped in todays fish. P.S the anglo-zionist really dont know what they r dealing with . The Chinese will never forget the humiliation they went thru in the 19th century and half of the 20 century. < as u said Napoleone , and Hitler tried, and the Persians will never forget what happened in the 50s.

An additional concern must be the rhetoric currently flowing in the US in relation to the Presidential front-runners, with particular concern where the stated intentions of certain groups to incite widespread civil disruption, should “their” candidate not be selected. This alone is clear evidence of a very divided, non-cohesive “society”, and with the official elections just five months away, one wonders whether we’ll last that long without any major upset.

After the elections? I’d suggest “all bets are off”, and that may well include any “bets” that the new Administration might not see some advantage (political, financial or other) in starting a “limited conflict” to act as a distraction / “Rally around the Flag” event, to reinforce their position, or the position of their financial backers.

To quote our Russian relatives – “50/50 chance of WW3 before the year’s end”, and these people are not prone to wild speculation.

President Putin’s speech in Munich in 2007 provided a framework for both cooperation and non-cooperation with America and Europe. It helped me understand the Russian viewpoint expressed by Mr. Putin that they were not going to accept a world system oriented to the interests of one nation, the United States. I’d like to know from any of the very smart readers here if there are any lies of falsehoods in Mr. Putin’s speech. I didn’t see any. In contrast I saw an honest assessment of resistance against U.S. aims at world domination. Here is a link to it. Are there any false statements?

The people are ignorant- People do not care , now After Bombes start to fall it will be to late –The western media is covering up their Zionist NACI Crime – of starting the WW 3
What do you think after 10 000 nuclear war head explode in NATO- US- UK instigated WW 3 —-what will happen—– then –did someone ASKING that Question ??????????????????????

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