This is a damn near identical situation to 2010. We needed Liverpool to get something at home to Chelsea, and if they don't, rely on a shit team to go to our rivals and get something. We can play Sunderland away too. Sorry but until Newcastle get something from City, they're champions.

We've blown our advantage and we have to hope Newcastle do us a favour. No matter what the result is we have nothing to lose by going back to our form players. We have to try and win well and leave the rest to fate.

Welbeck and Valencia simply have to be in the starting lineup this time.

Destroy. Can't be counting on other teams to win it for us. Berba is perfect for that. Let Welbeck and Hernandez be on the bench. Welbeck is a poor finisher and Hernandez isn't playing well. Don't think that Swansea or Sunderland defenders can handle Berba at all.

Why can't we beat Swansea 6 or 7 nil? We never play with emphasis on scoring as many as possible, it's always about the bigger picture and getting the points. Next week is different, we need goals. I might be deluded, but I expect some fight from United.

We need to decide whether to try and fecking destroy both of them, risking the result. Or whether to just play to win and hope City slip up against Newcastle.

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Go for it! Too many times this season we have fecked around and let teams off from a thrashing. Some of those matches off the top of my head were against fulham at home and 10 man qpr. Probably could have had a few more against villa too.

I would like to see us just fooking go for it and score 6 or 7 goals even if we conceded one or two.

lets say city beat newcastle by one and qpr by 3. thats 12. we would need a 7-0 against swansea to make it someway conceivable and even then ridiculously unlikely. we played 10 man qpr for 80 minutes and scored 2. the only way winning on gd is possible is if city win both by one and we put 6 past swansea, and sunderland get a red card in the first minute. wolves did put 4 past swansea at the weekend so we could hit a few. but wont.

Momentum is everything at this stage of the season and City have got all of it when Newcastle could be playing on Sunday following two defeats. Mind you, nothing is going to script this season so who knows.