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Ungodly

Posted 23 May 2018 - 09:32 AM

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The symbolic meaning of this is possibly more important than punishing this one clergocreep. This serves notice to HRCC that they can no longer rely on bullshitting their way out of being held responsible for their crimes.

In all fairness most Jesus industry professionals do not rape children or shelter pedophiles.

Of course it is still good to see an HRCC official/rape enabler go to jail for a change.

jonathanlobl

Posted 23 May 2018 - 09:01 PM

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The symbolic meaning of this is possibly more important than punishing this one clergocreep. This serves notice to HRCC that they can no longer rely on bullshitting their way out of being held responsible for their crimes.

In all fairness most Jesus industry professionals do not rape children or shelter pedophiles.

Of course it is still good to see an HRCC official/rape enabler go to jail for a change.

What happens next? Does he become a prison chaplain? Or someone's wife?

Minister, Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic (02/20/2002)
"We don't know and we don't care."

Joe Bloe

Posted 02 July 2018 - 07:30 PM

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Church historian, Paul Collins, is downplaying the story as quickly as he can.

Wilson may be an archbishop says Collins, but, "He's not particularly senior in terms of the pecking order of the Catholic Church, but certainly as an archbishop and the Archbishop of Adelaide, that makes him the most senior person ever convicted. There's no two ways about that — although with due respect to Adelaide — Adelaide is not seen as necessarily a particularly prestigious diocese."

Collins is also pushing the idea that even though Collins was convicted on charges concerning child abuse, nevertheless,

During his time as the Bishop of Wollongong, Wilson earned the nickname "The Healing Bishop"

for his work with victims of child sexual abuse. "He was very effective as Bishop of Wollongong,"

jonathanlobl

Posted 02 July 2018 - 07:39 PM

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Church historian, Paul Collins, is downplaying the story as quickly as he can.

Wilson may be an archbishop says Collins, but, "He's not particularly senior in terms of the pecking order of the Catholic Church, but certainly as an archbishop and the Archbishop of Adelaide, that makes him the most senior person ever convicted. There's no two ways about that — although with due respect to Adelaide — Adelaide is not seen as necessarily a particularly prestigious diocese."

Collins is also pushing the idea that even though Collins was convicted on charges concerning child abuse, nevertheless,

During his time as the Bishop of Wollongong, Wilson earned the nickname "The Healing Bishop"

for his work with victims of child sexual abuse. "He was very effective as Bishop of Wollongong,"

Joe Bloe

Posted 03 July 2018 - 03:53 AM

That's my point. I didn't think my opinion of religion could get any worse. I was mistaken. To my astonishment, my contempt for the Church is actually growing.

If you think Paul Collins' revisionism is bad, check out the Catholic rewriting of history with regards to the Inquisition: In July 2014 I saved the following snippets from an article published in "Catholic Answers" magazine. Unfortunately the link is broken and I can no longer find the story on the Internet. The article was titled, How Can I Defend The Church Against The Inquisition ? This is the answer from 'Catholic Answers Staff'.

Point out that the Inquisition was intended not to convert people, but to find

people who were outwardly claiming to be Christian but secretly practiced

another religion ... The inquisition was thus an attempt to protect the purity

of the Christian community.

[...]

Also point out that the Protestants had a counter-inquisition that killed Catholics ...

In addition, Protestants were the big witch-burners. Witch burning never caught on

in Catholic countries.

[...]

When the Spanish Inquisition examined the cases of reported witches, it almost

invariably concluded that the charges were false and the accused were not guilty.

But tens of thousands of supposed witches were burned at the stake, hanged, or

jonathanlobl

Posted 03 July 2018 - 04:12 AM

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If you think Paul Collins' revisionism is bad, check out the Catholic rewriting of history with regards to the Inquisition: In July 2014 I saved the following snippets from an article published in "Catholic Answers" magazine. Unfortunately the link is broken and I can no longer find the story on the Internet. The article was titled, How Can I Defend The Church Against The Inquisition ? This is the answer from 'Catholic Answers Staff'.

Point out that the Inquisition was intended not to convert people, but to find

people who were outwardly claiming to be Christian but secretly practiced

another religion ... The inquisition was thus an attempt to protect the purity

of the Christian community.

[...]

Also point out that the Protestants had a counter-inquisition that killed Catholics ...

In addition, Protestants were the big witch-burners. Witch burning never caught on

in Catholic countries.

[...]

When the Spanish Inquisition examined the cases of reported witches, it almost

invariably concluded that the charges were false and the accused were not guilty.

But tens of thousands of supposed witches were burned at the stake, hanged, or

drowned in Protestant countries, including the American colonies.

Even for the Church, this is a poisonous understanding of history. In 1492, the Jews of Spain were given a choice. They could become Catholics or they could leave Spain. So many Jews took the Church up on their gracious invitation, that the Church became suspicious of the sincerity of the new converts. That's where the Inquisition came from.

Now they say the Inquisition wasn't meant to convert people? This is true. It was policing the people who had already converted, under coercion.

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Minister, Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic (02/20/2002)
"We don't know and we don't care."