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Because I gave my impression of the game? That's patently ridiculous, even for this site. Not to mention ironic - I have a vision of pimply 11-year-old's in my head when I read your post and Caveman's.

I don't give a shit how many other times something has been said; I'm not part of the "collective" - other people don't speak for me. For that matter, how many of those opinions were given before they even played the game? I bought the game (twice actually, so I could play with my friend, as L4D sucks with strangers), and my opinion was based on hours of playtesting. If I have an opinion, then I'm going to voice it, and I don't really care if it bothers a bunch of fanatical fanboys.

“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” - Mahatma Gandhi

Prez, your not being* an 'asshole' because of your opinion, as much as you are being a whiny child i.e. ... the sequel DOES seem to be an improvement in just about every way over the original.

Then you complain then say but seeing as how I got it for 30 bucks, and that is the usual price for most expansions nowadays anyway, I guess I can't complain.

I find that all very wtf

*your not an asshole, I think he's just saying someone always turns up to say the thing we have all (most here) heard many times and at the same time giving the product an ok rating, It comes over peaty, just like caveman bluntness You using stoneage weapons you know

Fucks me off when all people want to go on about is how much in monetriy terms thing are wrote to them, after all a dollar is worth differant amounts to everyone. i.e. "I'll buy that for a dollar"

I think the game is great....but I don't get the complaining about this or that should have been added on to the first one.

The 2 games are drastically different. Mechanics, look, "feel", play, level design, etc. I am glad they did a second game. Can't really complain about a 32.00 new game. 2-3 DLCs will cost you more than that.

I can see them adding more content to this one than the first one - and I welcome that. I think L4D was a way for them to test the market for their game....as the way it plays and is put together seems more like a project than a full fledged game. Issue with that? Nope - still got many many hours of playtime out of it.

I am happy with where they are on this. The second game is a lot more enjoyable with the new baddies, weapons, etc. Hind site is 20/20, but adding the current content into the first game wouldn't have done it justice.

It would be as though I said "I think all CoD games from this past one to the last 3 should have all been 1 game - they could have just added it all in". Now, I don't really care either way - but some how 8 million people think paying 60.00 for a new game is ok. So paying half that is....well....ridiculous to argue about.

I just bought the indie game Zombie Driver and I see what you mean about driving around running down zombies and how much fun it IS! Get the game for 10 bucks if that's what you are craving. I've enjoyed it much more than I did L4D that's for sure.

Other than the discouragingly unimproved matchmaking, the sequel DOES seem to be an improvement in just about every way over the original. I'm not convinced that the vast majority of these improvements couldn't have just been done as an expansion for the original rather than a full-priced sequel, but seeing as how I got it for 30 bucks, and that is the usual price for most expansions nowadays anyway, I guess I can't complain.

Except for the fact that the vast library of new campaigns for the original don't work with the sequel like they most likely would have if it were an expansion for the original, anyway...

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“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” - Mahatma Gandhi

And have an option for the lobby to join private servers i.e. specify a specific server which only requires one player to have the password, and then that server is effectively public for the remainder of that round.