Wednesday, October 27, 2010

The Real NBA 2K11

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A WORD FROM THE EDITOR

Hello 2K community! Welcome to the Real 2K Insider blog!

Last season I spent a great deal of time adjusting my renowned ratings to 2K's new scale. This summer I also signed up for Synergy Sports Technology (the service NBA Live/Elite was using for their tendency data), which helped me develop the best player tendencies the 2K community has ever seen.

With the grunt work out of the way, I'm not about to settle for the status quo. This season, the goal is to expand upon my work even further to bring you the most comprehensive virtual NBA experience to date.

2K Sports promised you this. However, with tendencies out of the box that destroy the realism they claim to provide, they have failed. Unless of course, Andrea Bargnani taking 30 shots per game is realistic to you (in which case you might be in the wrong place).

My current plan is to have all the player re-rated by the end of the month (actually, by the end of next week). That way any changes throughout the course of the season should be relatively minor. After that, I will begin re-working all the player tendencies - there are quite a few that are just ruining the current gameplay (I'm looking at you, hyped up "Touches" tendency).

Perhaps most importantly, after great demand I will (finally) be uploading these rosters to PS3! I do not have a time table yet, but there should definitely be a roster up by the beginning of the NBA season.

This is going to be an exciting season, and I have big things planned for not only the roster, but how the Real 2K Insider presents it's content as well.

2k abolished their team ratings (which makes little sense to be honest, even if they were broken), so instead we're left with numerical rankings. Here's the overall ranking for each team, separated by conference.

Hey man, great ratings. Is there a way to change Portland's home sock/shoe color? Right now it's black in the game but in real life it's white/white for the reg season. Not trying to complain, just going for accuracy.

James Johnson 67 is too high. Hes looked trrible in preseason and honestly shouldnt see the floor much. Noah at 73 is way too low. His overall should be equal to or higher than Deng. Noah is the Bulls 3rd best player behind Rose and Booz

Wouldnt u guys rather the individual ratings be accurate or Rashidi give Kobe a 97 because you feel he deserves it? Which is stupid why wouldnt want your favorite player to play as he does in life. Some players are not higher than others because he is focusing on the individual ratings and not the overall rating itself. If you are focusing on the overall then you are not rating the player based on stats. You're Just rating the player for the hell of it. Try to bring your attention off the overall and focus on how the player performs during gameplay

I'm very disappointed with the Rockets ratings ... How can the Most Improved Player be with a lower rating than two unproven PG's like Steph Curry and Collison and a slouching old Baron Davis ... Evan Turner, who hasn't even played a normal game in the NBA is rated higher than Kevin Martin. For God's sake, even James Harden, who hasn't done anything for the past year is rated 77 ... an injured Blake Griffin is higher than Luis Scola ?! And Yao shouldn't even be in the 80's ! Yes, he may still have the touch but until a couple of months pass and he gets in shape, there is no way he is an 84 !!!

Bosh is above average in all areas - something only he and Amare can lay claim to.

Gasol grades the best in Post Defense (along w/ Garnett), which is desirable, but he also rates below average in 3 categories: Outside Scoring, Perimeter Defense, and Athleticsm. Considering Gasol is closer to being a center than anyone else on this list, I don't think you're going to find many people arguing with that.

Collison and Curry had excellent rookie years. All "Most Improved" means is that Brooks wasn't as good as Curry/Collison when he entered the league. Both of those players were All-Rookie First team in a deep class for a reason.

Kevin Martin had a down offensive year but hopefully will bounce back. I mean, it's not like his defense or rebounding is any good (that's a reference to all-around guys like Turner and Harden, btw).

Blake Griffin is a #1 pick with plenty of talent, and is tearing up summer league. Scola is a good scorer and rebounder, but couldn't block a shot or dunk if his life depended on it (something the athletic Griffin will have no trouble doing).

Also, Yao will remain high until he shows us he doesn't deserve the rating anymore (particularly his Inside Scoring, Post Defense, and Rebounding). We need some on-court production to judge him by. Fortunately, that day is coming soon.

Noah is at 77, not 73. I had him at 77 last year and was well-aware of his underratedness (though 2K also took note, and updated him to 77 in their update).

Moreover, I edited the entire Bulls team, including their training camp players who are grossly underrated.

I'm aware James Johnson is erratic, but he actually looks good in his highlights (mostly when he was starting for Deng). I don't put too much stock into preseason, and I think he'll be improved this season. The Bulls will lean on him for reserve minutes with Boozer out.

I know you're still working on this but will you also be updating rating/tendencies for guys not on this list. I want to run an assoc. with the kings and noticed Cousins, Casspi and Greene were missing.

Kobe went 2-15 from the field last night, and people are complaining about a 92? With the shooting night he had, she should be a 62. Am I a Kobe hater? No, I was extremely happy they beat the annoying KG and the Celtics.

can someone have rashidi's rosters uploaded for transfer kit users like me? please please please... since PS3 users would be getting some love, can you give some to transfer kit users for XBOX360? been a follower of rashidi since nba2k9 so i want to use his rosters again... ;)

Hey Rashidi. Good work on your ratings...I know that you get ask a million times...but when will you make this for the PC version? Is it really hard to make changes in the PC version than the consoles or is it just because somebody will download it and re-distribute them as their own work?

Bosh played "center" on a Toronto team that allowed more than 83 FG attempts per game (eight more per game than the league leader) and he grabbed 35% of his team's available defensive rebounds (which is near the league aggregate). While assets like his quickness help him get to rebounds others might not, he's certainly not physically stronger than a variety of others on the list. His per game #s are bound to dip with James snagging 8-9 boards every night, meaning his Toronto stats are likely a little inflated.

I'm not suggesting he should be significantly dropped. I just view him as more of B/B+ rebounder (by your rating scale).

Another thing with Bosh's rebounding, he played on a HORRENDOUS rebounding team last year in Toronto. Near the bottom in the league last year in total rebounds. Somebody has to get the rebounds on that team last year, and it was Bosh. He is certainly not a terrible rebounder, but this year on a great defensive team like Miami, his rebounds will go down. Take that to the bank.

Bosh played "center" on a Toronto team that allowed more than 83 FG attempts per game (eight more per game than the league leader) and he grabbed 35% of his team's available defensive rebounds (which is near the league aggregate).

...trust me, just stick with the percentages i brought up. The way you just did it doesn't account for minutes/possessions.

While assets like his quickness help him get to rebounds others might not, he's certainly not physically stronger than a variety of others on the list.

Neither was Dennis Rodman.

His per game #s are bound to dip with James snagging 8-9 boards every night, meaning his Toronto stats are likely a little inflated.

His rebounds are just as likely to stay the same because Joel Anthony is an even worse rebounder than Andrea Bargnani. Barg is actually a half-decent defensive rebounder, while Anthony's is putrid because he's always out of position looking for blocks. LeBron and Wade are going to be looking to run. Sure, he'll grab more boards than Turkoglu did, but that's merely going to be canceling out Anthony's lack of production.

Plus, you haven't even taken into consideration Bosh's competition. Gasol played mostly center this season which is the main reason his rebounds went up. He was the primary backup center, and the starter when Bynum was hurt. Garnett and Dirk are terrible offensive rebounders. Josh Smith and Amare are merely average. Amare has played on a terrible rebounding team for YEARS and he's NEVER grabbed rebounds like Bosh did this year. Love (A+) and Randolph (A) rated higher than Bosh, and based on the data, that's accurate.

How is Collison higher rated than Curry? Curry was the runner up to the ROY, an Olympian, had much less talent to play with along side him in Golden State as compared to New Orleans and Collison is rated higher because...? Not trying to start anything, just wondering the logic behind it to see what your rating scale is based on. Thanks

CDwight 92? :SWhat is Okafor doing in front of Shaq, Noah? He sucked last year and he knows it, he even said it to the press.Bargnani only 72?! He is beating players off the dribble to the rim tho is a 7 footer, unlimited range, has post moves, decent rebounder, shot blocker and post defender... very underrated. Cause he a Raptor?

I update the contracts of every player I edit. So naturally they will be done when the ratings are done also.

Basically the only thing I'm not touching right now is the tendencies because I need to sit down and look at the changes from last year, as well as evaluate the new ones. That's much more time consuming than implementing my ratings which are already based off of last season.

Josh Smith and Amare are merely average. Amare has played on a terrible rebounding team for YEARS and he's NEVER grabbed rebounds like Bosh did this year.

Could not agree more! Good point about the competition as well. I appreciate you articulating your argument and not taking it personal. Although, I would probably have avoided comparing Bosh to Rodman.

You do realize Hill drops 4 points simply by switching his position from SG to PG, right?

What's with the James Harden praise?

Good defender and all-around player. You're looking too much at overall rating and not at specific attributes.

Kevin Garnett still an 82? He is moving like Shaq now.

Not even close.

What is Okafor doing in front of Shaq, Noah? He sucked last year and he knows it, he even said it to the press.

Okafor is a better defender and rebounder than Shaq. He is a better scorer than Noah.

Bargnani only 72?! He is beating players off the dribble to the rim tho is a 7 footer, unlimited range, has post moves, decent rebounder, shot blocker and post defender... very underrated. Cause he a Raptor?

As with the Hill example, Barg rates two points higher at PF, which is really his natural position anyway. 3pt and ball handling don't make much of a difference in center overall rating - rebounding and shot blocking do, and Bargs is only average at best in those areas.

thanks Rashidi for the answers. Not long ago Kidd was the best PG so near 20, that indeed is washed up. he never much relied to athletism. as a matter of fact he recently developed a 3pt shot. he is rebounding, still one of the best passers, and still starting for a team, which might be a contender, that is why its weird to see him there.

You would pick Okafor over Noah or Shaq? Okafor is one of the most blocked player in the nba and one of the reasons NO sucked last year, Collison is talented but over 80, from last year‘s same sucking NO? :S

I am 100% sure you have sophisticated methods, just tryna understand how much personal opinion is in these ratings

Kirk Hinrich goes from a 74 to 79 when you switch him to SG. That's crazy.

Delonte West jumps from 71 to 76 when you switch him to SG. Which is extremely annoying, btw, since I have Ray Allen at 75 and I can't get West any lower than 75.

PG overall rating formula was re-worked after a lot of complaints about players being too high, but it's obvious the other 4 positions need formula tweaks as well. Perimeter bigs are unfairly rated (Dirk and Bargs are the notable victims), while scoring PGs leap substantially in rating when their position is listed at SG.

thanks Rashidi for the answers. Not long ago Kidd was the best PG so near 20, that indeed is washed up.

There are 30 starting PGs in the league, 70 with guaranteed contracts, and it's the deepest position in the league. Ranking 16th in a league where Mike Bibby ranks 43rd is not washed up. He's not a legitimate all-star anymore, but still a very solid option, much better than guys ranked in the 30s like Jarrett Jack, Jose Calderon, T.J. Ford...

as a matter of fact he recently developed a 3pt shot.

Yes, but the rest of his offensive game is non-existent. He cannot score off the dribble anymore and his individual defense is declining every season. Not to mention that declining athleticism has a direct effect on ratings.

As I intimated before, Okafor is a better offensive player than Noah, and a better defensive player than Shaq. Both Okafor and Noah are significantly more athletic than Shaq at this stage of his career, and consequently are also better defenders (and to a lesser extent, also better rebounders).

Noah has a slight edge on Okafor beaten in a few categories, but Inside Scoring is highly weighted for center overall rating. If center overall were calculated differently Noah would likely have the higher rating, but since it's not, Okafor's Inside Scoring edge gives him a higher rating.

One of the reasons NO sucked last year,

The reason NO sucked last year is Chris Paul missed half the season. There is no other reason. Okafor was the team's only center and he played all 82 games. Without him, they are starting Darius Songaila or Aaron Gray.

Collison is talented but over 80, from last year‘s same sucking NO?

By that logic, Tyreke Evans is overrated too.

I am 100% sure you have sophisticated methods, just tryna understand how much personal opinion is in these ratings

Very little compared to other roster editors. 2K Overall ratings are not perfect, and I have justifications for each individual rating that makes up the overall rating you see before you.

@ classic teams:good lookin rashidi that sounds like a plan idk about the limits myself but i felt like 2k could have gone all out on the classic teams.. anyways kno u got a lot of work on ya hands but lookin forward to ya rosters..

Rashidi, all you would need to make a roster file for the PC is: the official 2k Roster file that you want to use, and, once it is released for 2k11, the 2k PC Roster editor (An external program designed to easily edit ratings, tendencies, contracts, and accessories). You wouldn't even need the actual game. The roster editor is a free download off the internet, and anyone who owns 2k for the PC could provide you with the official roster file you want.

Yo Rashidi i cant believe OS banned you man F them anyways, Im started to hate that fing site. They went hollywood man. Those mods ego are outta control bunch of hitlers. Any much respect Rashidi luv ur rosters bro.

That's also because Ronnie Brewer is hurt. Korver should be his primary backup, and will probably play there more than SF pending Luol Deng's health, but for me it's going to depend on whether Kyle Weaver makes the team or not.

i rated a 5 for all the hard workplus people dismiss your roster for association mode on operationsports because your tendencies arent finished yet its funny if one is patient enough to wait oh what fun this year really enjoyed 2k11 for 2k10

Oops, one more thing.I think Derrick Rose is a legit 99 speed. The dude needs 4 dribbles to get from his basket to the other and 1 after half court in real games. I don't understand the drop in quickness either.

Will you be editing potential ratings? because I hear that's the biggest factor the AI goes by in trades...

I do edit potential, but I use the same scale as 2K. I haven't toyed with trade checker yet. To be honest, I haven't even started an association for test purposes yet. It's just ratings and an online game or two as a reward for the work I put in that day.

...and do you think turning up all the coach profiles to 100 is a good quick fix for gameplay in the mean time?

I haven't touched coach profiles yet, but it's the first thing I'm doing as soon as I finish the ratings.

I tested the Touches Tendency for Rashidi earlier this week and lowering them to 0 may improve SOME playing issues, but make sure you have your roster back up saved. since I wasn't exactly super in depth with trying it out.

I downloaded and rated your rosters, they're great and offer realistic stats except for one category. I've simmed atleast 10 seasons and I cannot get Chris Paul and Deron Williams to average double digit assists, which is pretty much a given that they will be averaging atleast 10 dimes a piece next season. Is this a 2k flaw or what because I've tried fixing rotations, playbooks, tempos, runplays. The only player to average atleast 10 assists that I can consistently see is Jason Kidd, and sometimes Rondo will pop up in there. Any help would be appreciated.

I downloaded and rated your rosters, they're great and offer realistic stats except for one category. I've simmed atleast 10 seasons and I cannot get Chris Paul and Deron Williams to average double digit assists, which is pretty much a given that they will be averaging atleast 10 dimes a piece next season. Is this a 2k flaw or what because I've tried fixing rotations, playbooks, tempos, runplays. The only player to average atleast 10 assists that I can consistently see is Jason Kidd, and sometimes Rondo will pop up in there. Any help would be appreciated.

This is partially a shot tendency issue, partially a 2K flaw. The reason Kidd is getting there is because he is rarely shooting, while guys like Paul/Williams/Nash are all looking for their own offense more during simulations.

I was curious about the ps3 rosters and the time frame. Are they still likely to be out by regular season. I don't have the 360, so i haven't been able to look at your rosters. I've been toying around with the living rosters but haven't found the right fit. The "speed with ball rating" sounds good. Also what do u have Rose's tendencies at. Maybe just shot tendency and pass out of drive. I was also curious about Noah's speed, quickness and passing ratings. Thanks

LeBron has 93 speed. Not only is that the fastest for a player his size (off the top of my head I think he is only rivaled by Joey Graham, who is still 25 pounds lighter), but that's essentially top 20 speed in a league with lightning quick PGs. His speed is fine.

I don't have an XBox, so I haven't been able to enjoy your excellent work so far (and it really is excellent by the looks of the posts you've written). If you do opt to put out your roster for us PC users, we'd love you forever.

It's honestly mind-boggling that such a big company with so many employees working on the project can't even get things like roster ratings and sliders reasonably accurate, when you alone put out superior rosters all by your self. It's a huge pet peeve of mine (as well as many others, I'm sure) to start up Association mode and see completely ridiculous numbers.

Without quick-fixes of my own, both DeRozan and Scola consistently play fewer than 20 minutes a game (due to constant foul trouble). You do an immense service for the NBA 2K community!

Can somebody please tell me why Ronnie Price of The Utah Jazz isn't in the lineup for x-box 360 online roster???????????? Please somebody get this fixed! The whole Roster is completely innacurate, they even still got Kyle Weaver that was pulled up from the D-League on there and he was released! Where is Kyrylo Fesenko? Please God let 2k learn how to run a game!