Jefferson: Near my home, down the street it opened a church. I do not know if it’s Pentecostal, an evangelical church… When I passing in front, I was very glad. Even they have their discernment, but it is still a point of light in the neighborhood.

Eshu Mirim Caveirinha: It´s a light point. Despite what happens there, everyone knows what happens right? It is a light point, young. Because is not everyone who is able to learn about Spiritism. It have to get slowly. But you guys do not have much patience, right? You think that everyone has to believe in spirit. You think everyone has to believe in incarnation. You think everyone has to accept Exu Mirim. But it’s not like that, boy.

We are all workers, and we do our best to our Lord Jesus.

You know, young. Once I was on the beach and was there helping fellow working there on the beach. Because the people when going to the beach, they lose their head. Starts making spree and begin to harm the others. Starts drinking, starts acting up.

And then we went in a house where there was a group of 15 young people. It was an orgy, drug, was a ruin over there.

The neighbor wanted to call the police. Then that man called the police but the police did not go there. Because it would not solve anything at all. They would hide everything and would do a saint face.

So, what we did? There is a nation that stirs the rain, right? Then it started to rain there boy, and began to clog the drains. And those young there realized that a lot of people was passing need because of the rain, and one of them had an idea to jump the wall and save the neighbor. And then he jumped up and saved.

When he saved, the neighbor thanked a lot. That though they were troublemakers, they were there to help others, you know?

Then one of them there, was friend of the father from a girlfriend. And her father was in the army in those high office, And he told to her daddy what was going on.

From the fifteen boys there, many must to go the armed forces, to learn how to be good people. .

Jefferson: But what they did? Sex Group?

Eshu Mirim Caveirinha: Yes. Also drugs. Then they must to go to army to learn to have discipline. But some of them were lost, there was no solution. But We were following them and each of them has a story.

What it was the most difficult character you had trouble to solve the problem?

I will tell you the story of a young woman. It was a girl who had a lot of mediumship. She was a beginner and began working in a Umbanda yard.

Eventually she was realizing that, with her vision of mediumship (clairvoyance) she started talking about the lives of others. She saw people and began to tellig things. It was very bad.

Because she talked a lot what she should not tell.

And her Old Black warned many times: “Be careful my daughter. It has things that should not talk about”

But, even so, she told.

What happened to her? She began to feel special, think she was a hot chick.

Once she decided to do a black magic because she said: “I can do everything”

Then she got possessed. The spirit shook her and did not want to leave at all, letting her in the ground. So she was losing her breath. Then she asked for help, and her Eshu said: “Let it a bit more to learn. So, let a little bit, she will not die, let a little longer. ”

Then she lost her Ego and saw how small and weak she is. So then she made a prayer and we there together and took the evil spirit away. But the Medium was wise and learned after this lesson. This girl did a lot of work.Complicated, Boy.

Jefferson: Then one asks: “Where was my Black old Man, who let this happen?”

Eshu Mirim Caveirinha: Preto Velho was there, laughing. Everybody was laughing. You must to learn.

There are other case, that people get sick, because has so much hatred in the heart, and it infects the body. Then lose the hair, will make treatment and learn to be more humble. Do you understand the reason, Boy?…. 57

Whatdid you meantohave charity, havepatienceandbe a man? How doesa parentteacha childto grow, having those value?

Eshu Mirim Caveirinha:Before,let usreturntto he situationof the mother. Howshe will asksomething to thedaughter,ifshe doesn´t do the same? Because thechild grows upwatching his father. If the fatheris an honorablefatherand sonis aweakhead,how dostuff works? Theparent has tofixfirst, thenset an exampleto son.Butthere are manychildren, theseboysasbeing borntoday,who arecomingto teachthefather.

Sometimesyouwant to have childrenright?and asks forthe bestsonof the worldright? Then God sendthat sonmessyto change everything, to stireverything.By so doingthe parentcreatingshamein the faceand grow.

No one is bornin theplace that is notto be.Everyoneis bornin the family whomust be born. It is a matterof necessity andlearning.

There are manychildthat is bornin a musicianfamily,because it’sa musicalSpirit and his mission isto workwith music.There are manychild who is born into an family ofmediums, which his Mission is to work in themediumship.

Lookboy, I’ll tell you avery interestingcasehere: There was ayoung man whoin the past lifehe was toodisordered. And then when hepassed awayandsaw everything hehad made, he asked for Godtolet himeducatehimself.

ThenFatherfrom heavenspoketoExuMirim: “Looking for a good familyfor him.”

I founda perfect familyfor him, boy. Do you know how washis Family? An extremelytraditionalistmother.Allfor herworkon the basis ofpunishmentand beating. The father was worse.

This boysince hewas bornuntil completingthe age of eighteen, he straightened. He suffereda lot, buthad there was no otherway.Becausewe createthe situationfor him to bethere, to fulfill his purpose. Then hewanted to work, earnmoney toleave the house,but did everything wrong. Hewanted to go out with themessylittle friend, we tookhim tochurch.

And thenhis motherhadvery longhair, you know? She worethoselong skirt, was a veryspitefulmother.Thefather,for any reason, wanted topunish.

And sowe followthat childthroughthe years.Todayhe turnedlawyer andis helpingeverybody heharmed in other life. ExuMirimfollows him andwillaccompanyuntil he is a good personand becomea well-smelling flower.

And what about you,boy? You also were bornin the family that you need toit?

Jefferson:Yes, you could say so.

Eshu Mirim Caveirinha: You know,young man,freedomis something thathas a very highPrice. Whenyou learn topay that price, you become free. Because peoplethinkgoing to befree isdoing allhe wantsbut it’snot like that.

Eshu Mirim Caveirinha:Orbea great woman, right. To bring children tothe world. And the childrento behonorablepeopleas well. And what happensboy?Willhelptheother brotheras well. Whois balancedhelps those whoareunbalanced.

Eshu Mirim Caveirinha:I’ll tell youone case,Boy. Once had twoladiesin thesewing class. The first little ladytheresaid thather son waswonderful and the other wasembarrassedbecauseher sonwas homosexual.

And thismother wasdiscriminating the other mother, saying that her sonwas the greater, the bestsonin the world, and mademockery from the sonofanother woman. The mother of homosexualheardeverything.

A month has passed... After two months, the wonderful sonof that firstwas arrestedbecause he wasinvolved withdrugs..

And thenthe mothersaid, “I would rather that my sonwasgay, instead he wasarrested because of drug trafficking. Because there wherehe sold, he killed three.And thegayson,a good guy, workhelpingothers.Hehas a good heart.

The guycametoUmbandaterreirochainLordOgumIara. He started working there andPadilhamanifests through him and he began to give consultation and answermanymother whowent through the sameproblemthat his motherpassed.

Andthis mediumwasrealizing through theconsultation, he hada deviationin hispast life.And he is nowrecovering, balancing the sensualenergy.Thisis one of thecases.

Eshu Mirim Caveirinha: You knowboy.There arethoughtsof suchpeople whosmell likeshit. Rottenthoughts. And that, you know boy, only bringsdiseasetoone’s life. You have to clear the thoughts, otherwise you are a person whosmells really bad. Smells badboy. TheAura stinks.

Jefferson: Then you have to choosethe thoughtstosmell good?

Eshu Mirim Caveirinha: Exacly. So howdo you want, that good peopleon the other sidecomes to help, right?

You knowboy, thethoughtsthat smellsshit, only attractsshit,right?Hihihi. The worms, embodied anddisembodiedright? And they aresomeuglybugs. Some mosquitoes, which are flying… Humm