Wow, if only you could administer a cognitive test to determine whether someone is allowed to own guns. Like, anyone exhibiting psychosis e.g. belief in government conspiracies, lizard people, or Biblical creation.

You think the NRA is a powerful lobby? They don't have shiat on the AARP. Old people will never, ever be disqualified from driving because the AARP will never allow it, even if it can be proven that they kill 30,000 people a year.

I'm 63 and know damn good and well that 70 is to old for a lot of people to still be driving.I plan on being smart enough to quit while I'm ahead.Old fart knockers scare the hell out of me,worse than young whipper snappers.

Nice, but we really should be putting all of our resources into establishing a decent regional/national public rail transportation system. Then we wouldn't have to be worrying so much about who or who would not be driving in our bright future.

Suckmaster Burstingfoam:goatleggedfellow: Suckmaster Burstingfoam: Wow, if only you could administer a cognitive test to determine whether someone is allowed to own guns. Like, anyone exhibiting psychosis e.g. belief in government conspiracies, lizard people, or Biblical creation.

I just solved your stupid gun problem, USA.

Guns in the home are significantly more likely to end up accidentally killing family members than killing criminals. It's a self-limiting problem.

In fact, legalize bigger guns and maybe those people will wipe themselves out.

Awesome, America. Good to see you moved on from that school shooting thing so fast. I guess it gets easier each time...

America is an experiment. Or it used to be. The only experiment we're running now is trying to validate Lord of the Flies on large scale.

As someone else who lives in a warm place during the winter: Fark all the old people. I work in a hospital and we have multiple people every summer that get killed or badly injured by old people who run a red light, stomp the gas instead of the brake, or flat out don't see a stop sign.

Recommendation: Take a drivers test every two years for people of all ages. If you're declared incompetent to drive during the test then it is a felony if you get caught behind the wheel.

The real problem is the fact that its impossible to be independent in most of this country if you can't drive. Unless Grampa's kids live near enough and have the time to drive him around everywhere, if you take away his car you might as well put him in a home.

That's the thing that keeps otherwise reasonable old people driving long after they're too blind, slow of reflex, or senile to drive.

No, I don't know what the alternative is, at least until self-driving cars are commercially available.

As someone who lost a friend to an 87 year old driver that "just didn't see him" in broad daylight, leaving behind a wife and two small children, I can totally get behind this. The worst part was that he was riding his motorcycle home from the shop, and his wife and kids were following him home in the car, so they saw everything.

Put some real public transit in place so people can get around without cars and then start the testing.Old people still need to get around town so make it possible for them to do so with little fuss & bother.

Personally I think everyone should be retested every so often. Shiatty drivers are my pet peeve peave. It's like after they get their license people forget everything they ever learned in drivers ed. Turn signals are not a last minute gesture you use halfway into a turn because you don't want a ticket. You don't need to come to a complete stop when entering a parking lot from the road or when making a turn. A merge lane is for getting up to speed and merging into traffic, not stopping and waiting for all traffic to clear before proceeding into a lane, especially if the merge lane goes over rail road tracks. If people on bicycles are passing by you while driving on a main road maybe it's time you gtf off the goddamn road and let people get by you. At least be willing to get up to the speed limit. Having the passenger hold the wheel while you push the gas so you can search for shiat in the back seat is farking retarded. Cutting across multiple lanes suddenly because your dumbass couldn't pay attention to the road or you didn't know where you're going is a good way to create an accident and get people killed asshole. If you're driving and texting or talking on your cell phone you deserve whatever the hell accident you end up getting in. If you're busted drinking and driving more than twice you should lose your license period. No work permit, no losing it temporarily, no one year bullshiat. No more driving, ever. You lose the ability to get to work, that's your farking fault dipshiat.

I could go all day with this crap. I know I'm not a perfect driver, but I'm at least considerate and I'm mindful of vehicles around me.

Sin_City_Superhero:Warlordtrooper:Gun ownership is a Constitutionally protected right. Unless somebody has been convicted of a felony, they can't be deprived of their rights.

Black people were deprived of the right to vote until 1870. Women couldn't vote until the 1920's.

You mean they didn't have the right to vote until those years. They weren't Constitutionally protected rights, so they didn't have them. Before the 15th and 19th amendments, there was nothing unconstitutional about denying them suffrage. Gun ownership has been a Constitutionally protected right since 1791. Driving is not. I'm confused as to the point of your post.

DemonEater:In Britain your license automatically expires at age 70, and you have to re-take the test in order to renew it. In Australia, after 75 you have to have a yearly physical exam, and after 85 you also have to re-take the driving test every 2 years

Some states already have restrictions on renewal over age 70-75, but those are a lot less restrictive, usually just that you can no longer renew by mail.

Illinois makes all drivers over 75 take a driving test at every renewal. Licenses are good for 4 years until 80. From 81-86, licenses are good for 2 years. After 86, licenses are good for one year.

Also any driver of any age who has gotten a ticket since their last renewal must take a written exam.

We just took the keys away from my 86 year old mother. I told her, " The family who you didnt kill because we took away the keys thanks us." She didn't understand wtf I was going on about, and the rest of us knew we were right.

Dear gosh, I would like an honest law that requires real testing.I had a 96 year old try and cross four lanes of traffic, I went up and over him with my truck and put his 86 year old wife into the hospital with crushed ribs. 100% his fault according to the police report. I needed surgery, air bags kept my then kindergartner from any harm. I had picked up the kid less than five minutes before this.

My current license is good for 12 years. I would not care if every year after 60 I am required a road test and vision test. Make it part of a reduced insurance requirement.

In Britain your license automatically expires at age 70, and you have to re-take the test in order to renew it. In Australia, after 75 you have to have a yearly physical exam, and after 85 you also have to re-take the driving test every 2 years

Some states already have restrictions on renewal over age 70-75, but those are a lot less restrictive, usually just that you can no longer renew by mail.

GeneralJim:whidbey: Nice, but we really should be putting all of our resources into establishing a decent regional/national public rail transportation system. Then we wouldn't have to be worrying so much about who or who would not be driving in our bright future.Typical dumbass statist solution. Pick a method that disrupts a city by requiring massive construction, costs an arm and a leg, and uses more energy per person-mile traveled, on average, than traveling with one person in a car. Obamatravel.

Hint 1: How much R&D goes into mass transit v. auto. Hint 2: Do you think people study improving mass transit for fun or do you think that maybe there needs to be a demand to drive improvement?

Fine. EVERYBODY gets the test, if it takes a lot of senile drivers off the road.

You win. This is the way to do it. It's WAY too easy to KEEP a license most places. In Hawai'i: LOTS of drinking ---> LOTS of drunks ---> LOTS of drunk driving ---> LOTS of lost licenses. Mopeds and bicycles are big here, and a surprising number use them because it's that or nothing. So, people without licenses can still get around. People unable to think properly should not be driving. Never happen, though, because the state is heavily Democratic.

Suckmaster Burstingfoam:Wow, if only you could administer a cognitive test to determine whether someone is allowed to own guns. Like, anyone exhibiting psychosis e.g. belief in government conspiracies, lizard people, or Biblical creation.

I just solved your stupid gun problem, USA.

Same goes for keyboards. Some people wander away from the subject and start spouting off at the mouth. They are truly lost.

Winters are hell down here in Yuma, Arizona because of the old drivers. Earlier, I was behind someone who came to a stop while making a right turn. Nothing blocking the path. I waited a bit, then honked.