Re: [BC] Shaw is a rip-off

Both choices are comparably unattractive...

One day,

We'll be paying $20 for the municipal "hook up" to the fiber,then we'll have a choice of transit provider (at ~$5 per 1mbit up/down sustained 95th percentile),then we'll be paying $0.99 per HD channel from an IPTV provider,and another $2.99 for unlimited local & long distance phone from a VOIP provider.

OFC before that's possible, the last mile needs to be taken back,the content provider's geo-loction restrictions would have to be demolished, and on top of that - the most important thing:

CONSUMER'S HAVE TO BECOME AWARE OF THE REAL NEGLIGIBLE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE SERVICES.

Only for HD streams, those future capitalist pigs have no shame - but seriously if I were to pick, I'd gather up 10 channels and stay with them: CNN, Discovery, Space, TLC, HGTV, Speed, and 4 more I'll decide then.

I don't need home phone

And with my traffic, I'll won't be paying much for sustained burst - nothing I use requires more than 3mbps realtime

We'll be paying $20 for the municipal "hook up" to the fiber,then we'll have a choice of transit provider (at ~$5 per 1mbit up/down sustained 95th percentile),then we'll be paying $0.99 per HD channel from an IPTV provider,and another $2.99 for unlimited local & long distance phone from a VOIP provider.

OFC before that's possible, the last mile needs to be taken back,the content provider's geo-loction restrictions would have to be demolished, and on top of that - the most important thing:

CONSUMER'S HAVE TO BECOME AWARE OF THE REAL NEGLIGIBLE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE SERVICES.

You missed that somewhere along the line everything will be moved to Cloud based solution, allowing for both content monitoring/nannying/archiving and removal/censorship at the slightest hint of legal threat and or financial/political pressure to the host(ISP).

No, you've missed the fact that I have a 1 TB drive (and, more coming) so I don't need that crap.

Thats the solution, stressing local storage. Nobody really needs cloud but they try and present it to the average user as the greatest thing to happen to modern computing, while completely ignoring any of the points mentioned above.

Average user is going to watch the propoganda on tv for it and think "oh this is easy" and be fooled, which will only add to the population base that they will point out every time enthusiast users have anything to say against the concept.Personally I have 1TB of SSD RAID in my main machine along with a NAS that has 6TB mirrored, sad fact is most home users don't even know what NAS stands for let alone how to implement one and they will just add to the statistics that encourage more and more companies to implement cloud storage.

Likewise... even KIA found a niche in the car market, but you don't see any race or rally car drivers driving them They also cater to that bottom basic user, and that's a scary huge percentage.

You missed that somewhere along the line everything will be moved to Cloud based solution, allowing for both content monitoring/nannying/archiving and removal/censorship at the slightest hint of legal threat and or financial/political pressure to the host(ISP).

'Tis true, the iPads are signaling the potential shift that way.While they are still "local" devices, the form factor in my opinion will be the window to remote computing.Terminal solution - it does have a lot of attractive points: unlimited processing, storage, portability...And the negative's of zero user control, no community modding, and easy copyright enforcement will not be highlighted to the general public.

It is quite possible that we will not be able to save anything locally in a few dozen years.

But I'm hoping that the local-storage-industry will prevail with molecular USB sticks and ultrafast NAND

OFC before that's possible, the last mile needs to be taken back,the content provider's geo-loction restrictions would have to be demolished, and on top of that - the most important thing:

CONSUMER'S HAVE TO BECOME AWARE OF THE REAL NEGLIGIBLE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE SERVICES.

ROFL

I find it funny how much people hugely underestimate FTTH deployment costs. It isn't in the hundreds of millions folks, it's literally f**king billions of dollars for Alberta and BC alone. Neither Shaw or TELUS is going to undertake such a thing; at least without significant cash infusion from the government.