I can't believe my eyes , an electric loco (Br 189) running with all of its pantographs down!

This is not unusual.I have seen videos of Austrian passenger trains where the Taurus had all pantographs down.

Originally Posted by: Carim

Now to find an electric loco running without any wires!

You surely can find that e.g. in the Netherlands - movable bridges often do not have catenary and trains run across them with lowered pantographs and the momentum they previously gathered.

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I can't believe my eyes , an electric loco (Br 189) running with all of its pantographs down!

(You have to wind forward to 0.50).

Now to find an electric loco running without any wires!

Venlo is a border crossing station with Germany.German power is 25,000 volts AC,Dutch power on the general network is 1,500 volts DC.The loco in question can handle both by using one of the other pantographs.With a heavy containertrain it is easy enough to roll over the border with all pantographs down and thence use the 1,500 volts DC panto on the Dutch side.But surely,as a locomotivedriver,you have to know what you are doing.

Note that power on the socalled Betuwe freightline from the border at Arnhem to Rotterdam is 25,000 volts AC,so is the high speed line from Amsterdam to Brussels.

You can tell the difference between the two systems by looking at the powermasts along the line,the 1,500 volts DC are made of straight steel profile,the 25,000 vols AC are made of round profile in a slightly curved shape.

Aks picture of a train exiting from under a building (Post #401) brought to mind a place I visited in south west Norway.

I like to take an interest in how railways fit (or use) the landscape.Here in Stavanger (south-west Norway), the sprat canning industry created the need for railway lines in the 1880s.Naturally, the canneries were close to the waterfront, and their product could be distributed by rail and sea.Stavanger became the terminus of the Southern Railway from Oslo via Kristiansand.

I have found evidence that the rail lines extended for some distance along (or alongside) the wharves to serve the canneries on the west of the fjord.I believe wharves on the east side were also served by rail, and I found the junction of these two lines underneath the Vektergarden office/shopping centre.I am unable to find any old maps, or photos, that may confirm this theory. Over to you Ak.

Along the harbour of Stavanger today, there are around 60 maritime buildings. They were built at the end of the 18th century and early 19th century.They were previously used as salting works for herring, storehouses for salt, logs and other goods, as well as for other industries. Naturally these industries could be well served by rail.On the other side, at the back of these houses, was the owner’s residence with exit to the street. These are now converted into offices, restaurants, apartments as well as other businesses.

The wharf junction is immediately after the exit from a tunnel about 500 metres long.This tunnel runs approximately south to north, and begins at the Stavanger railway station, which is a terminus.You can see the line marked red in the map.From where it forks, the lines extended along both east and west sides of the town fjord.I failed to measure the gauge of the lines. I have discovered since that Stavanger railways were originally built to a narrow gauge and converted to standard gauge.

The south tunnel entrance is alongside the Stavanger station terminus (photo below).The structure over this tunnel entrance is an extension of a roadway, and the railways now use this at times as a shelter for housing locomotives.

If I were to build a model of a town wharf with railway, this would be an ideal scenario.The Cannery Museum might even be able to bring this to fruition? I did not have time to visit this place, which would have been most interesting. Maybe they already have a model train to illustrate this.

For those of you struggling to fit a turntable; take a look at hte Norfolk Southern's Roanoke Shops facility in Roanoke, VA. The facility exists in the middle of town, with a highway and surface street both passing right over the top:

The Windbergbahn near Dresden in Saxony, Germany is another nice prototype. Constructed in 1856, this winding standard gauge branch line is considered as first German mountain railroadhttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windbergbahn

Matt Era 3 DB lokos, coaches and freight cars from across Europe But I do have the obligatory (six) SBB Krocs ECoS 50200, all FX and MFX decoders replaced with ESU V4s, operated in DCC-RailCom+ with ABC brake control. With the exception of the passenger wagens with Marklin current conducting couplers, all close couplers have been replaced with Roco 40397.

For those who have a double track mainline, but don't have shared or exactly parallel tunels:

The Kyune/Nolan Tunnels along the D&RGW Utah Subdivision. Found in Price Canyon (now Price Canyon Recreational Area) North of Royal, UT. There are actually 2 sets of tunnels which are both like this in the area. The follow the Price River, the Northern set of tunnels crossing over it just after the North portals. So not only does the line split for the tunnels, but it also goes over two separate bridges immediately afterwards!

Want bridges, a waterfall and a city all in one place? Try Genessee Falls in Rochester, NY on the former NYC mainline (now CSX). There was/is also a station in Rochester just following the East exit of the bridge, but a now many platforms abandoned. Three tracks over the bridge!

This is also found in on the Genessee River facing in the other direction (although it is a footbridge):

Want bridges, a waterfall and a city all in one place? Try Genessee Falls in Rochester, NY on the former NYC mainline (now CSX). There was/is also a station in Rochester just following the East exit of the bridge, but a now many platforms abandoned. Three tracks over the bridge!

This is also found in on the Genessee River facing in the other direction (although it is a footbridge):

Another bridge + waterfall + city scenario is Rheinfall, Schaffhausen, Switzerland. Also adds a castle.

Town (with old factories) to the left.

The bridge. There is a pathway beside the track on the bridge.

Castle to the right. The railway goes in a tunnel under the castle, and there is a station on the other side of the castle mountain. But you are not allowed to walk through the tunnel so you have to climb all the way up and down the castle mountain to get to the station.

Well, whil ewe are on bridges, there is Windmill Lane Bridge (also known as Three Bridges) in London where the road, canal and railway cross each other in one place. One of the last of Isambard Kingdom brunels projects according to the writeup. Still exists today.

Castle to the right. The railway goes in a tunnel under the castle, and there is a station on the other side of the castle mountain. But you are not allowed to walk through the tunnel so you have to climb all the way up and down the castle mountain to get to the station.

What could be better for modeling than a train tunnel under a castle? This must make up at least 25% of the layouts in the 0700 track planning book alone :)

Well, whil ewe are on bridges, there is Windmill Lane Bridge (also known as Three Bridges) in London where the road, canal and railway cross each other in one place. One of the last of Isambard Kingdom brunels projects according to the writeup. Still exists today.

The absolute best part of this is the water runs OVER the train track!

My favourite on this topic is from Håverud in Sweden: Railway over water, road over water and... water over water! I believe I posted something similar in this forum a dozen years ago, but this is IMHO worth repeating

Not as spectacular as the above posts, but in my view also inspiring for a MRR set-up. Further to the Portuguese wye presented here:https://www.marklin-user...the-prototype#post493567West of the wye shown in above post - thus towards Setubal - there is a tunnel under the town center connecting the downtown port area with the Setubal central station. The line is disappearing in a curve between and then under houses. The wide Rio Sado river mouth in front with quays and boats and cliffs and houses in the rear frame the rails, thereby offering a pleasant diorama-like view.

A short siding right before a tunnel? Why not. I would really love to know what the that structure is next to the tunnel (abandoned bore?), and the purpose of the siding. Also notice the observation end unit not at the end of the train.

A short siding right before a tunnel? Why not. I would really love to know what the that structure is next to the tunnel (abandoned bore?), and the purpose of the siding. Also notice the observation end unit not at the end of the train.

"No 10 Train E of Egeria Colorado Last Trip"

-Brandon

Hi Brandon. My first thought about the siding was perhaps for a snowplow unit? It looks like they might get lots of snow here. Peter

I like your thinking. I'm not sure, D&RGW aggressively got rid of their standard gauge steam engines in the early 50s. Surely it could be a relic of before that time, although prototypical they would place water towers along the track, even where there was no siding in the case of narrow gauge operations. However, anything is possible. I wish the image was just a bit larger, or had a bit more info associated with it, as we could probably make out the structure or use Google maps to see what the route looks like today (most likely the siding is long gone).

The #10 train would be Eastbound (even number), the Yampa Valley. If it was the last train, this would be 1968. However, it's a little unclear where the train is. It maybe gore Canyon. It has to be somewhere between Denver and Craig, Co, but that's still a lot of track to search :)

Hi Brandon. My first thought about the siding was perhaps for a snowplow unit? It looks like they might get lots of snow here. Peter

Peter,

Another interesting idea. It's clear to me it's some sort of MOW purpose, be it water replenishment, snow plows, and/or other MOW equipment. Plow trains were very short (I recently posted one). Assuming Gore Canyon, which I am pretty sure it is, annual snowfall average in the area is s something like 55 inches (elevation around 7500 feet).

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