3 shot groups with a rifle, like the Army taught me. I keep an old silver dollar in my pocket, that's my yardstick. If I can cover my groups with that, (oh yeah in the 10 and X ring too), I'm satisfied. With a full sized handgun, I'm content to work in the black. Some days the groups are tighter than others, as long as everything's in the black I'm good. My snubby? Well, that one keeps me humble.

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