pens#1 wrote:number #1 picks are great but this team is built to win now - who knows if BOTH Sid and Malkin will be here in 6 years, if the Pens had 10 years to just sit back and wait i would say no way but that isnt how the NHL runs these days. I personally dont hope we sit around and wait for Staal to mature - especially considering he could get a crazy offer sheet and then we either match or get picks that wont help us now either, just imagine if he gets a 5+mill offer sheet

Agreed. Especially since our #1's aren't high draft picks. Take a look at some of our previous #1 picks. We had a stretch of having busts for 7 years straight. I doubt we'd get a Kovalchuk in this year's draft and he's only 25.

Bob McKenzie wrote:I said a few weeks back when everyone was talking about Gaborik that a trade for Kovalchuk made more sense.

If anyone is saying Kovalchuk isn't the type of player Crosby needs, you're mistaken. I've watched a lot of Kovalchuk. I think he would be a much better fit for Crosby than Hossa was. Hossa is a great forechecker and backchecker that can make plays with the puck. The MAJOR difference between Hossa and Kovalchuk is that Kovalchuk is a finisher, think goal first sniper and Hossa isn't.

There was a game that Atlanta played last week (can't remember who) but Kovalchuk looked defeated like there's nothing else he can do in Atlanta. It's a team that needs to rebuild and he's never complained about getting out of there. That said, he's a $6.4 million cap hit and is signed through next year. He would probably love playing here. If we're going to make a deal for him, it should be something like:

StaalSydor1st or 2nd round pick

for

Kovalchuk

I can't see the Pens involving Letang in the deal. Atlanta really doesn't have anyone else on their roster that makes sense for us (unless you take on Kozlov but he's 36 - but can still play). Bringing Army back doesn't do anything but clutter up the 3rd/4th line players we already have.

I agree with everything you wrote...I do think that it will cost a lot more then Staal/Sydor/pick for Kovalchuk. Kovalchuk is signed for another year. The Thrashers don't HAVE to move him, like they did Hossa...I am sure the Thrashers want Staal...

Easton wrote:I think they'll be here in 6 years. I don't think a first round pick is untouchable, but they aren't something you want to be tossing out every year to win now. Because toss a few first rounders out there, and you'll find yourself accepting first rounders and dishing off a Crosby/Malkin to rebuild.

With Crosby, Malkin, Whitney, Orpik and Fleury all locked up together for 4 or more seasons, I think the Pens can afford to burn another first rounder or two. Afterall, Kovalchoo IS a first rounder.

Atlanta would have a nice young D if they had the tanger on their team. Bogosian and Enstrom are going to be good. The Schneider pickup they made was supposedly so they could trade him at the deadline to someone.

KG wrote:If Kovalchuk is in fact put on the market. There will be a ton of teams with real interest...Because of his relatively modest cap hit for the player he is...

It will cost more then Hossa cost...

Did Hossa really cost that much?

3rd line center that is soff3rd line RW that can't put his game together, though popular and would throw a hit now and then1st rounder that is soff and many consider to be like Alexandre Daigle1st round pick (Daultan Leville), who is rated lower than Esposito on HF's website for ATL prospects.

KG wrote:If Kovalchuk is in fact put on the market. There will be a ton of teams with real interest...Because of his relatively modest cap hit for the player he is...

It will cost more then Hossa cost...

Did Hossa really cost that much?

3rd line center that is soff3rd line RW that can't put his game together, though popular and would throw a hit now and then1st rounder that is soff and many consider to be like Alexandre Daigle1st round pick (Daultan Leville), who is rated lower than Esposito on HF's website for ATL prospects.

I'm undecided on this trade. I think we would be giving up way too much, and having Colby Armstrong included makes me believe it is 100% false. He is the least needed type of player we need right now. For that deal, I could see 2 of the 3 of Staal, Satan, and Letang (I would hope not both Staal AND Letang).

bhaw wrote:I'm undecided on this trade. I think we would be giving up way too much, and having Colby Armstrong included makes me believe it is 100% false. He is the least needed type of player we need right now. For that deal, I could see 2 of the 3 of Staal, Satan, and Letang (I would hope not both Staal AND Letang).

There isn't even a proposed trade in the rumor, just that the pens and thrashers are involved. Someone here just made up a deal.

bhaw wrote:I'm undecided on this trade. I think we would be giving up way too much, and having Colby Armstrong included makes me believe it is 100% false. He is the least needed type of player we need right now. For that deal, I could see 2 of the 3 of Staal, Satan, and Letang (I would hope not both Staal AND Letang).

There isn't even a proposed trade in the rumor, just that the pens and thrashers are involved. Someone here just made up a deal.