The Hijab is a handy tool that can save your life if falling out of a plane, cover that bad hair day and make any woman look absolutely angelic...we'll almost any woman.

A good Quran reciter can calm your soul with the Quran. A bad reciter can make the words of God sound like a dying cat.

Wudu is the cure for the heat of anger, feeling down about yourself, and that funky foot odor from old sandals.

Most Muslims show a very kind, charitable soul. They gently call you to Islam and encourage the search for truth. These are disproportionate to those muslims that call you Kafir and tell you that you're hellfire bound.

Mohammed (pbuh) had 12 wives, including a Christian woman. His first wife was intelligent, educated and owned her own business. His youngest was literate, while he was not.

Women are respected in Islam, women are not respected by men of many cultures. There is a difference.

Jihad is a good thing, Hirabah is a bad thing.

Hypocrites and Apostates are in all religions. Its not about the group or individual, its about the basics.

Islam is a beautifully simplistic religion that people make harder than it really is.

You will never get two Muslims to agree on everything.

The only thing more confusing than hadiths are fatwas, when in doubt, look at the Quran.

In the end, Islamicity is a wonderfully warm place filled with serious students, kind mothers, reverts, born muslims, christians, one great Jew, and some really funny jokers.

I wish to say thank you to all those that have taught me over the last year. God Bless everyone of you and keep your families safe from harm.

With Sincere Love,

Angela Marie Daley, that Mormon Girl

Replies: Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 2:45pm

LOL Angela, You should be a writer!

this is an awesome post!

Happy One Year Anniversary!

-------------"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.

Posted By: superme
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 4:30pm

Originally posted by Angela

Jihad is a good thing, Hirabah is a bad thing.

What is hirabah? Err I honestly don't know, never heard or read the word myself he he, and I am a muslim by the sound of it.

Originally posted by

You will never get two Muslims to agree on everything.

This is the truest of them all - I am the living proof of it. There is only one agreement I make with fellow muslims - to disagree .

Angela you hit the nail in all those points.

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Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 10 July 2006 at 5:09pm

As part of the ideological "war on terrorism", Muslim scholars are seeking to engage in an ideological battle within Islam to replace the word jihad with a term that labels terrorists as cowardly pirates who kill women and children, which in Islam is the crime of hirabah. Because the word jihad roughly means "religious effort," the West can come off as attacking the daily life of ordinary Muslims, while terrorists get away with wrapping their crimes in religious phraseology. Muslim scholars are meeting in Washington with US officials to change this. "When people carelessly dump on jihad, it has an immediate polarizing effect," said Khaled Abou el Fadl, a professor of Islamic law at UCLA who will attend the meeting. "It may not change much, but it allows Muslims and non-Muslims to say something about terrorists without appearing to malign Islamic theology." "We should use language to move moderates toward the West and quarantine the extremists," added Muqtedar A. Khan, director of international studies at Adrian College.

The Hijab is a handy tool that can save your life if falling out of a plane, cover that bad hair day and make any woman look absolutely angelic...we'll almost any woman.

A good Quran reciter can calm your soul with the Quran. A bad reciter can make the words of God sound like a dying cat.

Wudu is the cure for the heat of anger, feeling down about yourself, and that funky foot odor from old sandals.

Most Muslims show a very kind, charitable soul. They gently call you to Islam and encourage the search for truth. These are disproportionate to those muslims that call you Kafir and tell you that you're hellfire bound.

Mohammed (pbuh) had 12 wives, including a Christian woman. His first wife was intelligent, educated and owned her own business. His youngest was literate, while he was not.

Women are respected in Islam, women are not respected by men of many cultures. There is a difference.

Jihad is a good thing, Hirabah is a bad thing.

Hypocrites and Apostates are in all religions. Its not about the group or individual, its about the basics.

Islam is a beautifully simplistic religion that people make harder than it really is.

You will never get two Muslims to agree on everything.

The only thing more confusing than hadiths are fatwas, when in doubt, look at the Quran.

In the end, Islamicity is a wonderfully warm place filled with serious students, kind mothers, reverts, born muslims, christians, one great Jew, and some really funny jokers.

I wish to say thank you to all those that have taught me over the last year. God Bless everyone of you and keep your families safe from harm.

With Sincere Love,

Angela Marie Daley, that Mormon Girl

Bismillah,

You're welcome, and thank you for your time, effort and sincere love. In Shah Allah, your family will only grow stronger and wiser and more faithful as time here on this earth passes.

Peace

-------------Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.

Posted By: ummziba
Date Posted: 11 July 2006 at 11:35am

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this past year Angela. Life certainly is a learning experience isn't it? I wish I could remember some of what I've learned in this past year, but, I do know that being content with what Allah has given me is the best thing I've ever learned, period.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this past year Angela. Life certainly is a learning experience isn't it? I wish I could remember some of what I've learned in this past year, but, I do know that being content with what Allah has given me is the best thing I've ever learned, period.

Peace, ummziba.

As Salamu Alaykum My Dear Sister UmmZiba,

Please do not worry on your past that the things you do not remember as your benefits,we know what you have taught to us in the recent year with your gorgeous writings coming from your pure heart,we are the witness and Allah knows them then just leave it to Him and be satisfied about this,just live your day and keep on inspiring to us...you know that hadith:

Narrated Abu Huraira: "The Prophet said, 'The best alms is that which is given when one is rich, and a giving hand is better than a taking one...

The giving hands...wa salaam...

Posted By: schwester
Date Posted: 13 July 2006 at 12:59am

Wudu is the cure for the heat of anger, feeling down about yourself, and that funky foot odor from old sandals.

also that it needs much more cream and skin care

Mohammed (pbuh) had 12 wives, including a Christian woman. His first wife was intelligent, educated and owned her own business. His youngest was literate, while he was not.

smb tell pls some about christian wife? heard for the first time

Posted By: Muhammad77
Date Posted: 13 July 2006 at 4:42am

Originally posted by Angela

A good Quran reciter can calm your soul with the Quran. A bad reciter can make the words of God sound like a dying cat.

Can you elaborate on what you mean to say by this?

Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 13 July 2006 at 7:22am

I mean I have downloaded several versions of Quran recitation. My Imam Arafi (Surah Yusuf) is peaceful and relaxing. However, I cannot remember the reciters name, but his voice was irritating and I was unable to enjoy his recitation because of this.

Reciters are people. Some have good voices, some have bad. Just like secular singers. Sometimes, people just sound more like they are strangling a cat than singing.

Its nothing against Quran recitation itself, just the performers.

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Posted By: superme
Date Posted: 13 July 2006 at 2:45pm

Originally posted by Angela

I mean I have downloaded several versions of Quran recitation. My Imam Arafi (Surah Yusuf) is peaceful and relaxing. However, I cannot remember the reciters name, but his voice was irritating and I was unable to enjoy his recitation because of this.

Yap you right. What other people say good sometimes its bad to me until I tried everyone of them myself by spending of time in it.

The 2nd link used to work in everyone of them but now few of them don't work, it need patience in clicking. The first one work ok but not that many, enjoy.

A good Quran reciter can calm your soul with the Quran. A bad reciter can make the words of God sound like a dying cat.

Originally posted by Angela

I mean I have downloaded several versions of Quran recitation. My Imam Arafi (Surah Yusuf) is peaceful and relaxing. However, I cannot remember the reciters name, but his voice was irritating and I was unable to enjoy his recitation because of this.

Reciters are people. Some have good voices, some have bad. Just like secular singers. Sometimes, people just sound more like they are strangling a cat than singing.

Its nothing against Quran recitation itself, just the performers.

So you should not call those reciters of the Qur'an who have bad voices as dying cats. The recitation of the Qur'an is so meritorious. The Qur'an is the word of Allah. It does not matter wether one has a good voice or a bad voice. But it is the recitation of the Qur'an which is more important. Be careful of your comments in future.

Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 11:40am

Muhammed or should I say Salman,

Loosen up. I said its not the Quranic recitation, its the voice. And if they sound like a dying cat, it detracts from the beauty of the Quranic verses they are reciting...if you are going to make a CD for people to buy, you should make sure you can do the subject matter justice and all that it deserves.

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Posted By: schwester
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 11:44am

i better read it to mysel. becacause plus to my dying cat voice i have an accent

Posted By: Muhammad77
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 9:43pm

Originally posted by Angela

Muhammed or should I say Salman,

Loosen up. I said its not the Quranic recitation, its the voice. And if they sound like a dying cat, it detracts from the beauty of the Quranic verses they are reciting...if you are going to make a CD for people to buy, you should make sure you can do the subject matter justice and all that it deserves.

Who is this Salman? Why am I being called as Salman in this forum? I have seen another member call me by that name. And I warn you all not to do so in future.

Yes, even I am talking about the voice. If you are listening to a song, and if the voice is not good, then if you wish you can say that it sounds like a dying cat. But when you are listening to the recitation of the Holy Qur'an and if some people have bad voices while reciting it, then you should not call it as the voice of dying cat because they are reciting the word of Allah.

Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 10:23pm

If it sounds like a dying cat, it doesn't matter what they are saying.

And only Salman has ever been so arrogant to "warn" people. If you're not him, hten you're a newbie, not even a Moderator.

But, I'm pretty sure you are him, since of the 1 year I've been here only one man has been arrogant enough to warn me.

What are you going to do? You're not a moderator and I've expressed a personal opinion and observation. I can see the difference between the words and the performance by an individual. If the voice sounds like a dying cat, it does. It doesn't matter what they are singing.

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Posted By: Muhammad77
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 10:34pm

Stop calling me Salman. There are so many arrogant people in this world. Will you call all of them Salman? And I am not being arrogant. I just want to correct you.

Originally posted by Angela

If it sounds like a dying cat, it doesn't matter what they are saying.

If the voice sounds like a dying cat, it does. It doesn't matter what they are singing.

Again, you are openly insulting the word of Allah ! And I as a Muslim, it is my responsibility to correct you. If one sings a song, and if his voice is bad, then if you wish you can call it as the voice of a dying cat, but when somebody recites the Qur'an and his voice is not good, then you should not call it as the voice of dying cat, as they are reciting the word of Allah ! Be careful of your comments in future.

Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 10:41pm

Be careful or what? You warn me of what??? I speak my mind. Deal with it. I've proven myself here. You have no right, or power to "warn" me. You're not my father, husband or brother. I always tell the truth, even if people don't like it. If I think it sounds bad, the I will say so.

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Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 10:48pm

Originally posted by Muhammad77

Stop calling me Salman. There are so many arrogant people in this world. Will you call all of them Salman? And I am not being arrogant. I just want to correct you.

Originally posted by Angela

If it sounds like a dying cat, it doesn't matter what they are saying.

If the voice sounds like a dying cat, it does. It doesn't matter what they are singing.

Again, you are openly insulting the word of Allah ! You have no right to do so. And I as a Muslim, it is my responsibility to correct you. If one sings a song, and if his voice is bad, then if you wish you can call it as the voice of a dying cat, but when somebody recites the Qur'an and his voice is not good, then you should not call it as the voice of dying cat, as they are reciting the word of Allah ! Be careful of your comments in future.

Bismallah:

As-Salamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu

Brother. please lower your gaze. and refrain from anger. It is not in the way of Islam. You cannot openly accuse her either! You are evidently not american as you do not see as Angela does. She is a good person and has been at this forum for a while. We should be mindful of the People of the Book and not disrespect them. If you have an issue please PM a moderator. And read the rules of the forum. May Allah (swt) reward you for your stance, but please be mindful that not all here are Muslims. Peace be unto you.

-------------"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.

Posted By: Muhammad77
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 10:48pm

Originally posted by Angela

Be careful or what? You warn me of what??? I speak my mind. Deal with it. I've proven myself here. You have no right, or power to "warn" me. You're not my father, husband or brother. I always tell the truth, even if people don't like it. If I think it sounds bad, the I will say so.

Remember, this is an Islamic forum !

If you wish, you can accept your mistake right here, right now and regret it for making that comment of dying cat.

But if you don't, then I think the moderators should ban you for insulting the word of Allah !

Originally posted by Angela

If it sounds like a dying cat, it doesn't matter what they are saying.

Originally posted by Angela

If the voice sounds like a dying cat, it does. It doesn't matter what they are singing.

Originally posted by Angela

If I think it sounds bad, the I will say so.

Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 11:02pm

Originally posted by Muhammad77

Originally posted by Angela

Be careful or what? You warn me of what??? I speak my mind. Deal with it. I've proven myself here. You have no right, or power to "warn" me. You're not my father, husband or brother. I always tell the truth, even if people don't like it. If I think it sounds bad, the I will say so.

Remember, this is an Islamic forum !

If you wish, you can accept your mistake right here, right now and regret it for making that comment of dying cat.

But if you don't, then I think the moderators should ban you for insulting the word of Allah !

Originally posted by Angela

If it sounds like a dying cat, it doesn't matter what they are saying.

Originally posted by Angela

If the voice sounds like a dying cat, it does. It doesn't matter what they are singing.

Originally posted by Angela

If I think it sounds bad, the I will say so.

Asalaamu Alaikum:

Brother, it is up to the moderators to correct any error, not us. You are not her mahram and beating women in the US is not permitted. You approach may not be acceptable to some sensitivities here. If you spoke to me that way, my husband would be VERY quick to set you straight. See the report button in the upper right corner of the screen? That is how you report something you find offensive. Allah knows best and He understands your intentions.

Mashallah:

Maryah

-------------"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.

Posted By: Muhammad77
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 11:13pm

Yes Sister Maryah, I have lodged a complaint in the 'comments and complaints' section.

Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 14 July 2006 at 11:26pm

Originally posted by Muhammad77

Yes Sister Maryah, I have lodged a complaint in the 'comments and complaints' section.

Jazakallah Brother,, it is as you wish.

-------------"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.

Posted By: Cassandra
Date Posted: 15 July 2006 at 3:57am

Angela, I think I really ought to tell you that I love cats of all shapes and sizes, living and....well, maybe I can't go that far. I must say that you have deeply upset me by even mentioning poor expiring moggies. I couldn't sleep at all last night trying to get the vision out of my mind. I think you should personally apologise to me so that I may sleep in peace.

Oh, Colin, come back....all is forgiven. We so need you here.

Posted By: Suleyman
Date Posted: 15 July 2006 at 4:34am

Yes,Mr.Colin,a road map is waiting you,can't be without your association...please...