> From tcl-mac-admin@... Fri Jul 04 10:46:20 2003
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> > Why others are seeing green where I see black,
> > remains a mystery.
> >
> > I'm running the wish whose accompanying "Mac Tcl/Tk
> > Readme" says, "This build of Mac Tcl/Tk 8.4.2 was
> > compiled on Metrowerks CodeWarrior Pro 6.3 by
> > Daniel A. Steffen on 3 March 2003."
> That would imply that you're using Mac OS 9 (or earlier)? I think the
> rest of us are all using Mac OS X, where wish is built with
> gcc/Project Builder. Perhaps that's the difference?
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I've got a spanking new 10.2.4, but the 8.4 I found is
indeed a OS 9 compatibility version. Where should I be
looking? I've got fink, but don't understand it yet;
I *know* I installed *VNC, but it doesn't show up in
fink list -i
only
i apt 0.5.4-8 Advanced front-end for dpkg
i apt-shlibs 0.5.4-8 Advanced front-end for dpkg
i base-files 1.6-1 Directory infrastructure
i bzip2 1.0.2-1 Block-sorting file compressor
i darwin 6.4-1 [virtual package representing the kernel]
i debianutils 1.23-1 Misc. utilities specific to Debian (and F...
i dpkg 1.10.9-2 The Debian package manager
i fink 0.12.1-1 The Fink package manager
i gettext 0.10.40-3 Message localization support
i gzip 1.2.4a-6 The gzip file compressor
i libiconv 1.7-5 Character set conversion library
i macosx 10.2.4-1 [virtual package representing the system]
i ncurses 5.3-1 Full-screen ascii drawing library
i storable-pm 1.0.14-1 Perl module for persistent data structures
i tar 1.13.25-1 GNU tar - tape archiver
I thought this VNC required and installed an X, but I don't
see it in the list above.
Anyway, which Tk *should* I be running? I thought I had
tclkit, too, but that seems to be missing, too.
It's no news to me that I've got plenty to learn. At this
point I'm just grateful to Daniel, Jim, et al., for their
work making the MacOS X Tcl-savvy (even in the crippled way
I'm apparently currently experiencing). It's been delightful
developing pure Tk applications on this box.

> From tcl-mac-admin@... Thu Jul 03 09:43:54 2003
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> I'm not in front of my Mac right now, but labelframes have worked for me
> (except that they seem to appear in a funny colour like green).
> Alphatk uses them.
> -- Vince
> > That's my question: when I make the simplest possible labelframe
> > using 8.4
> > pack [labelframe .lf -text abcdef]
> > pack [button .lf.b -text See?]
> > I see no label under MacOS. Do I just not get how the Mac's s'posed
> > to appear? Is there a systematic error in labelframe?
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1. This has been an interesting thread. I appreciate
all the effort folks have put into it, and I'm
particularly gratified if, as it appears, we truly
flushed out an infelicity in DEF_LABELFRAME_FG's
definition. Thanks, guys.
2. Perhaps it all resulted from hallucination. I'm
back with my MacOS today, and labelframe labels
are showing up just as I expect. In black. I
have no explanation; I really did exercise things
before I reported the observation, although I
admit I didn't have the Mac in front of me at the
time I wrote it up.
Why others are seeing green where I see black,
remains a mystery.
I'm running the wish whose accompanying "Mac Tcl/Tk
Readme" says, "This build of Mac Tcl/Tk 8.4.2 was
compiled on Metrowerks CodeWarrior Pro 6.3 by
Daniel A. Steffen on 3 March 2003."