Ok... ITA with everyone that says Tenley is NOT over what happened... How many times can she bring that cheating S.O.B. into the conversation? Love her family and her mom was right...Tenley is not over what happened.

Gia's family was nice too...but church going Jake getting his Tarot cards read...LMAO! I don't see a fit there AT ALL. I still LOVE Gia...just not with Jake. LMAO at her skin and bones brother threatening to break Jake's legs...

Ali...what can I say. Her HTD was awesome. We finally got to see the Ali we all fell in love with in the beginning. I felt bad for her having to make that choice but...really if she was in love with Jake there would have been no choice to make. The RC "scene" seemed forced and fake to me. When she was walking out to the limo she looks at the camera with a semi sad face and starts to cry again... to me she was more sad about leaving the SHOW than leaving JAKE. Jake didn't seem too sad she was leaving.

Vienna.. Jake's in love with the girl.. wonky eye, wrecked cars, painfully "honest", bleached blond hair and all. It was very obvious she is the one he is the most comfortable with. I liked her dad...he seems like the type of man that would do anything for his family and friends.

I think all these girls have great families and are very lucky to be loved and cherished.

02-09-2010, 08:39 AM

anders332

Re: ***SPOILERS***Show Discussion Feb8/10

If it was real and not a set up and I had to choose between my job and a 1 in 4 chance of getting the guy I liked - I'd choose my job everytime. He said "You weren't on the line tonight", and that he couldnt' guarantee he'd pick her in the end. (whatever his exact words were).

I still think Tenley was actually on the line last night.

02-09-2010, 08:45 AM

Jack Benny Fan

Re: ***SPOILERS***Show Discussion Feb8/10

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Originally Posted by Beagle;3822167;

I agree with this whole post (although I really like Tenley). Vienna's personality is big like she said in her intro and it takes over all of the others and Jake is completely fascinated by her. She breathes life into him, he's a completely different person when he's with her.

The bold sums up why I favor Vienna over Tenley. The basic problem with Tenley is that she and Jake are too much alike. (Maybe the word "uptight" was a bit extreme.) I do prefer completely-baffled-and-Golly-Gee!-what's-this-girl-done-to-me? Jake over Perfect All-American Jake.

02-09-2010, 08:45 AM

Pdilly1

Re: ***SPOILERS***Show Discussion Feb8/10

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Originally Posted by one71721;3822264;

Ok... ITA with everyone that says Tenley is NOT over what happened... How many times can she bring that cheating S.O.B. into the conversation? Love her family and her mom was right...Tenley is not over what happened.

Gia's family was nice too...but church going Jake getting his Tarot cards read...LMAO! I don't see a fit there AT ALL. I still LOVE Gia...just not with Jake. LMAO at her skin and bones brother threatening to break Jake's legs...

Ali...what can I say. Her HTD was awesome. We finally got to see the Ali we all fell in love with in the beginning. I felt bad for her having to make that choice but...really if she was in love with Jake there would have been no choice to make. The RC "scene" seemed forced and fake to me. When she was walking out to the limo she looks at the camera with a semi sad face and starts to cry again... to me she was more sad about leaving the SHOW than leaving JAKE. Jake didn't seem too sad she was leaving.

Vienna.. Jake's in love with the girl.. wonky eye, wrecked cars, painfully "honest", bleached blond hair and all. It was very obvious she is the one he is the most comfortable with. I liked her dad...he seems like the type of man that would do anything for his family and friends.

I think all these girls have great families and are very lucky to be loved and cherished.

I thhink Chris hit the nail on the head...each girl represents something that Jake is looking for. WIth that being said, Jake needs to figure out which trait is the best for him.
Also with the screen caps at the FRC we see a helcopter fly overhead and Jake turns around...could this be ALI returning. I am sure the voice on the phone was sliced in there but maybe not.

02-09-2010, 09:07 AM

anders332

Re: ***SPOILERS***Show Discussion Feb8/10

That helicopter and phone call was done purposely for the viewer to think that Ali returns. nothing more, nothing less. If she returns this season was hi-jacked.

02-09-2010, 09:12 AM

Noobslueth

Re: ***SPOILERS***Show Discussion Feb8/10

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Originally Posted by anders332;3822301;

That helicopter and phone call was done purposely for the viewer to think that Ali returns. nothing more, nothing less. If she returns this season was hi-jacked.

I agree... tptb knew that after last night's drama the show would be a snoozefest. I agree with the person who said Ali's phone call wouldn't be shown until the FRC to keep people watching after next week.

02-09-2010, 09:22 AM

Bloomers

Re: ***SPOILERS***Show Discussion Feb8/10

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Originally Posted by wmweeza;3822209;

I guess I'm a cynic after watching tonights show. Even knowing the spoilers etc, I had a strong feeling that Jake and/or Ali planned this with the producers.
I don't quite buy the premise of her leaving or the crying. Some of it seemed tears or regret, sure, but both of them seemed to be acting the rest of the "Emotional turmoil" times tonight. Maybe she legitimately had to leave for her job, but I get the feeling there is more we aren't shown going on there.

The timing of the "job" is too coincidental and too much like last season to be real.
First, when she asked for time off, she would have asked off for more than 3-4 weeks ( which is what we know it takes to film to this point) unless the producers deliberately misled her when she was hired and told her a shorter time to ask off. Still, if that is true, then she "knew" what was coming down the pike.

How if this is on the up and up, did her office just happen to call during those few days after the hometown date and before the Rose Ceremony. How did that just happen? Now add that to the fact that the "work" excuse was used for the very first time in what 17 seasons just last season as well. This doesn't quite add up....

Even if she initially "thought" she wouldn't get this far, the idea that she had not asked off long enough would be looming in the back of her mind there in San Francisco. That was NOT what we heard - not at all, not a peep.

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Originally Posted by music_junkie;3822213;

Well, if that was the case, he was deciding between Gia and Vienna...

The way that they were lined up indicates that it would have been either Gia or Vienna because they were in the middle; however, Gia's edit of extreme insecurity as versus the strong connection he appears to have with Vienna leads me to think that if someone were going, it would have been Gia.

02-09-2010, 09:26 AM

tbamom

Re: ***SPOILERS***Show Discussion Feb8/10

Has anyone else mentioned that Ali mouths "now?" to Chris just before asking to speak to him alone?

02-09-2010, 09:28 AM

anders332

Re: ***SPOILERS***Show Discussion Feb8/10

Vienna has been placed in the rejected spot for weeks now and she's been called last on many occasions.

I remember Jake saying on Bonnie Hunt he didn't believe in astrology or any of that stuff and would not marry someone who did. So I found that tarot card reading at the end very interesting.

02-09-2010, 09:28 AM

one71721

Re: ***SPOILERS***Show Discussion Feb8/10

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Originally Posted by Pdilly1;3822293;

I thhink Chris hit the nail on the head...each girl represents something that Jake is looking for. WIth that being said, Jake needs to figure out which trait is the best for him.
Also with the screen caps at the FRC we see a helcopter fly overhead and Jake turns around...could this be ALI returning. I am sure the voice on the phone was sliced in there but maybe not.

I know...how dramatic was the helicopter...like where was it going to land on the deck of the house..LOL... I think that was just a helicopter tour, like the one Jake and Tenley went on during their date and it was a moment that the producers couldn't pass up. I don't think Ali is coming back...she may really call him but I think the moment Jake put her in the limo he was done with her. She knows what the show is about and that he isn't able to blatantly convey his real feelings for her, so her putting him on the spot like wasn't never going to play out the way she wanted it too. I think that people are mistaken his annoyance with her wishy washiness as turmoil and pain. Once he was back in the room with the other three girls Ali was long forgotten...

I still think that if you are in love with someone taking the risk of losing it all is something you have to do.. Ali wasn't ready to risk all for love so leaving was the best choice for her.