Aside from handing out AJ videos, is there a special string of logic anyone uses to show people that a massive conspiracy is afoot? Do you guys try to bring up history, or the human condition of always seeking power? I've often thought about writing papers about trying to wake people up, but I'm trying to boil it down into a simple idea that everyone can understand instantly.

Your help would be greatly appreciated :-P :-P :-P

07-30-2005, 06:22 PM

Geez!!

What?

Do you want everything wrapped up neatly in a tiny little package with a bow on it?

Retrieve information about the Federal Reserve and the private banking institution that it is and not a federally operated instrument of Congress as set forth in the Constitution.

Tell them how we are forced to borrow to finance their wars and repay them with interest. Tell them, in essence, this procedure keeps us indebted to them for the rest of our lives as slaves.

Tell them how war is for profit and that the powermongers use our children as their killing machines to take over other countries and their resources.

Tell them how they have been brainwashed from cradle to grave.

How they have been lied to in the history books they learn from in school.

How the truth has always been suppressed from us because they own the media.

Tell them how these "global elitists" have no allegiance to America but only to their "secret society" members, their cult members.

Retreive information about JFK and the reasons he was murdered in "cold blood.

Tell them about mind control programs and their secret, silent and invisible weapons of mass destruction.

Tell them that there are men and women dying daily in a war based on LIES!! and that the men who lied still occupy the house that belongs to the PEOPLE.

Arjuna

07-30-2005, 07:04 PM

I, as I suspect most truth seekers were, was born into a situation that attempted to fill me up with falsehoods. I believe my development in past lives made it possible for me to recognize some of the falsehoods instantly, and to question many of the others. I was a child questioning and resisting incompetent and dishonest adult authorities. Doing so was very stressful and confusing, and even after many years of life experience, study, and reflection, I am still undoing the negative effects the satanic conspiracy has had on me.

I did not come to an understanding of the satanic conspiracy instantly, even though I was predisposed to question and resist it from birth.

Compared to myself, the vast majority of people are unaware of the evils operating in the world. They are literally hypnotized, mesmerized, brainwahsed, conditioned, and ignorant. The witchcraft of satan has successfully cast a spell over the masses. Most people have been under this spell for many lifetimes, and I do not believe it is possible to do anything that will cause them to instantly snap out of it. Bear in mind that, in addition to being in a trance, most people are deeply in debt, and they spend most of their time and energy trying to survive; they really have no interest in understanding the bigger issues that we take so seriously.

For the small number of people who do have some interst in these matters, we can share information with them and try to point them in the right direction for further study. Since everyone is interested in money, that is often a good place to start. Nonetheless, the sad truth is that most people cannot comprehend the banking conspiracy in the least, even when it is explained to them in the simplest terms. Even so, if they are willing to listen, we can plant the seed of greater understanding, and maybe they will choose to learn more about it at a later time. I do not expect many people to wake up to the truth any time soon. However, some are ready. We are wise to help them learn the truth if we can. We can make some progress. It just seems to me that it may take a few thousand more years before humankind as a group is ready to cast off the shackles of satan. I believe I am alive on earth at this time to participate in that process of liberation. It is a worthwhile purpose, in my opinion.

I believe the best basic education on conspiracy theories is available from Henry Makow, the owner of ClubConspiracy.com. His personal website is:
http://www.savethemales.ca/index.html
His articles by subject area are here:
http://www.savethemales.ca/archives-subject.html

Reading and understanding what Henry has to share requires more effort than most people are willing to expend. I have referred several people recently to Henry's website. All of them have some knowledge of conspiracies; one of them produces programs on conspiracies for a public access television station in Atlanta. None of them took the time to learn what Henry is teaching. These are intelligent people who are comfortable with their limited understanding at this time. I hope they bookmarked Henry's website and choose to study it someday.

07-30-2005, 07:38 PM

"Bear in mind that, in addition to being in a trance, most people are deeply in debt, and they spend most of their time and energy trying to survive; they really have no interest in understanding the bigger issues that we take so seriously."

This is the most serious problem that the human race faces.

Without time, resources, energy and or financial stability, we have a difficult task.

This trap has been designed for us by them so that our society does not possess the ability to dethrone them. They are masters in the art of deceit, deception and destruction. Everything they do is orchestrated and planned to the very last detail so that the cover-ups can take place.

To unmask them, to unveil them as the "evil" that they represent to others is met most times with rejection. The lie is easier to accept than to subject yourself to the grueling task of replacing all that you thought to be true with all that you find so hard to believe. It is called "deprogramming" and, in essence, an awakening, a new you!!! A different way of seeing the world and interacting with others.

This process causes fear, anxiety, anger and to live comfortably believing a lie in lieu of undergoing emotional, psychological reactions is sometimes too uncomfortable for humans to endure. Being comfortable is what we are all about. Isn't it? Isn't that what they have conditioned us to believe is the ultimate state of mind and isn't this how they provide for us?????

It is not an easy process, but a "necessary" one if America is to be restored with dignity and pride.

So, to speak the truth, to be a patriot in whatever small way is to help "awaken" the interest of those around us who accept without questioning the powers that be and their decades of lies. The "global elite."

Those who cannot see should not be referred to as SHEEPLE as once all of those who have been "enlightened" were SHEEPLE as well.

nohope187

07-30-2005, 08:02 PM

They are sheeple because most of them have the same access to the same info that we have and could care less about looking for it anyway. Also since they don't know, they are easily manipulated like sheep. Hence, sheeple. We had this argument before. :-P

07-30-2005, 08:08 PM

nohope187 wrote:
They are sheeple because most of them have the same access to the same info that we have and could care less about looking for it anyway. Also since they don't know, they are easily manipulated like sheep. Hence, sheeple. We had this argument before. :-P

NOHOPE, you said you've been through the NWO/insider bullshit, if I recall correctly.

You were also a Marine.

Perhaps you have access and time, but not everything written and not everyone who posts on the internet can be taken as "TRUTH."

For most people, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. Just the way they've designed it.

You have this belief that all those who don't see what you see, know what you know, are just dumb SHEEPLE.

You're bitter at others for not seeing instead of trying to help others see.

That's how I see it!!

nohope187

07-30-2005, 08:16 PM

No, I know they won't see because I've tried to help before and they only look at me like I'm smokin' crack. People are blind because they want to be. They want to be comfortable, they want their creature comforts, they especially love believing that the govt. has their best interests at heart. They've already crossed the line and there's no turning back for them. :-P

07-30-2005, 08:52 PM

nohope187 wrote:
No, I know they won't see because I've tried to help before and they only look at me like I'm smokin' crack. People are blind because they want to be. They want to be comfortable, they want their creature comforts, they especially love believing that the govt. has their best interests at heart. They've already crossed the line and there's no turning back for them. :-P

Yeah, well, I know of what you speak. Here, let's trade shoes for a while.

Creature comforts keep us happy for the moment, but deep down we are all looking for the same thing.

TRUTH!!!

When we don't find it, we go back to our creature comforts.

Occupied 24/7 with technology.

Working six days a week.

Stores never close.

All of this designed and delivered to U.S. by the NWO so that we are busy and distracted and they can proceed on schedule without interruption from those whose best interests are not their goal.

They do not look over U.S. They look out for themselves.

A painful process for those who still believe the lie to relearn all that they thought they knew was true. A major "deprogramming" campaign needs to be launched by those in Congress who have not been bought.

nohope187

07-30-2005, 09:28 PM

BlueAngel wrote:
A painful process for those who still believe the lie to relearn all that they thought they knew was true. A major "deprogramming" campaign needs to be launched by those in Congress who have not been bought. As valiant the efforts of Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo are, they labor in vain. For the fish can only swim upstream for so long until the current overpowers him. As for people who won't wake up. They aren't looking for the truth if they believe they already know it. Most would prefer the comfortable lies because the truth is too painful for them to accept responsiblity for themselves. :-P

07-30-2005, 09:37 PM

Right. They aren't looking for the truth because they already believe they know it.

Yes, they are SHEEPLE, but not through any fault of their own.

And, the truth is painful. We have been conditioned to believe in a "false" reality and a "false" sense of security by those who supposedly are protecting us.

So, you're right. People want to be taken care of by their leaders.

To accept that they are not leaves one feeling vulnerable and frightened.

Much easier to go back to creature comforts and living the lie without participation.

And, so it continues because PEOPLE don't want to believe what they know is TRUE about their leaders and, if this war of lies isn't staring them right in the face, then they are brainwashed beyond belief.

But, then again, it may just be too painful for them to accept. It was for me.

If you can't trust your government, who can you trust???

The feeling of powerlessness causes a chain reaction of psychological feelings and GAWD forbid not everyday be a day of BLISS!!!!

Take the good with the bad!!

nohope187

07-30-2005, 09:43 PM

You can always trust family and friends... to a point. Depends on how well you know them. I remember reading about 1930's Germany and Gulag Paradise in Russia where people would rat out their own family members. Those days will be back here soon enough. :-P

07-30-2005, 10:01 PM

Sure, you can trust your family and friends to a point, but to learn that your government has betrayed you from birth and that you aren't really free, but a slave and all the other crap that has accompanied 911; Patriot Act, etc., your family and friends can't help you out much there.

nohope187

07-30-2005, 10:03 PM

And they don't. They're of absolutely no help at all. They really piss me off most of the time, but they are family. :-P

07-30-2005, 10:10 PM

Yeah, well, I don't want to get into Project Monarch, but try talking to your family about that one!!

Oh, yeah, and by the way, ever hear of "mind control" programs....

nohope187

07-30-2005, 10:12 PM

Yeah, I was there when you made your first post here. Remember? :-P

truebeliever

07-30-2005, 10:15 PM

The bets way to wake people up to the gravity of the situation?

Focuss on:

Banking/Finance

Oil Scams

Intelligence Service Drug Dealing.

Ask people how they feel about bankers punching in "zero's" and "ones" onto a computer screen and then having to work your guts out as a "waged slave" to pay back that "imaginary" money at "interest".

Ask them why elected government officials can handle multi billion dollar budgets but a "Private Elite Banking Establishment", who is accountable on the practical level to "no one", must have control of the money supply?

Ask them how it is that it costs $1.20 at the well head for Saudi oil but we are paying $60 a barrel? Ask them if they think it's right that "oil industry" people continue to beat up future "oil shortages" while they close down refineries and leave VAST oil fields untapped. Places like Africa and Oz hav'nt even been explored properly for oil! 3000,000 wells dug in the U.S...3000 in Africa!

Why would we possibly listen to oil industry "analysts" when they are in the PAY OF THE OIL INDUSTRY!!!!!!!!!!!

If bakers owned the wheat fields and all the bakeries and then refused to plant VAST fields with wheat but left them bare...and then closed down thousands of bakeries...we would soon work out a scam was afoot. Apparently the same simple logic does not apply to the oil industry.

The long list of books detailing that the illicit drug trade is OWNED and OPERATED by mainly the CIA, MOssad and British MI6 is easily available.

Just ask these simple questions of your friends. They can fly missiles through windows from the other side of the world. They can spot "1 acer" plots of individual plant species from outer space due to their unique infra red signiture...the poppy fields in Afghanista are a beautiful shade of "purple/blue" that you can spot standing on a hill 30 miles away and yet..."nothing can be done"? Hellooooooooo...

Ya want sum fries with that shit?

Powerful people want to stay powerful. They will kill to maintain their power. Just ask any father when his wife takes the kids and leaves him.

nohope187

07-30-2005, 10:21 PM

truebeliever wrote:
Just ask these simple questions of your friends. They can fly missiles through windows from the other side of the world. They can spot "1 acer" plots of individual plant species from outer space due to their unique infra red signiture...the poppy fields in Afghanista are a beautiful shade of "purple/blue" that you can spot standing on a hill 30 miles away and yet..."nothing can be done"? Hellooooooooo...

Ya want sum fries with that shit?
Yeah, I'd like a large coke too. :-P

07-30-2005, 10:24 PM

nohope187 wrote:
Yeah, I was there when you made your first post here. Remember? :-P

Oh, yeah, I remember. First, you came at me with my location as "The Land of the Free" with your attitude all over the place.

Like I was another dumb Sheeple wandering into the site and had never heard of the Patriot Act.

The first thread I think I was offering a reward to anyone with information leading to the arrest and conviction of those who incarcerated me, etc., and you came back with one of your usual uplifting remarks like, "ain't ever gonna happen."

Something like that!!!

nohope187

07-30-2005, 10:35 PM

It was a really lame name for a location, especially for a site like this. What did you expect. "Hi, I'm so glad you're here. Yes we are free, Free as a bird in the open air! Um...no. :-P

nohope187

07-30-2005, 10:48 PM

Plus with you knowing how incredibly corrupt govt. is on a personal basis, you should know better than ask a naive question like that. Admit it, you had it coming to you. :-P

Thumper

07-31-2005, 02:10 AM

truebeliever wrote:
The bets way to wake people up to the gravity of the situation?

Focuss on:

Banking/Finance

Oil Scams

Intelligence Service Drug Dealing.

Ask people how they feel about bankers punching in "zero's" and "ones" onto a computer screen and then having to work your guts out as a "waged slave" to pay back that "imaginary" money at "interest".

Ask them why elected government officials can handle multi billion dollar budgets but a "Private Elite Banking Establishment", who is accountable on the practical level to "no one", must have control of the money supply?

Ask them how it is that it costs $1.20 at the well head for Saudi oil but we are paying $60 a barrel? Ask them if they think it's right that "oil industry" people continue to beat up future "oil shortages" while they close down refineries and leave VAST oil fields untapped. Places like Africa and Oz hav'nt even been explored properly for oil! 3000,000 wells dug in the U.S...3000 in Africa!

Why would we possibly listen to oil industry "analysts" when they are in the PAY OF THE OIL INDUSTRY!!!!!!!!!!!

If bakers owned the wheat fields and all the bakeries and then refused to plant VAST fields with wheat but left them bare...and then closed down thousands of bakeries...we would soon work out a scam was afoot. Apparently the same simple logic does not apply to the oil industry.

The long list of books detailing that the illicit drug trade is OWNED and OPERATED by mainly the CIA, MOssad and British MI6 is easily available.

Just ask these simple questions of your friends. They can fly missiles through windows from the other side of the world. They can spot "1 acer" plots of individual plant species from outer space due to their unique infra red signiture...the poppy fields in Afghanista are a beautiful shade of "purple/blue" that you can spot standing on a hill 30 miles away and yet..."nothing can be done"? Hellooooooooo...

Ya want sum fries with that shit?

Powerful people want to stay powerful. They will kill to maintain their power. Just ask any father when his wife takes the kids and leaves him.Truebeliever, that was awesome. Would you mind if I quote your post and show it to others on a mainstream forum I frequent? This is quite the wake up call :-P

truebeliever

07-31-2005, 03:22 AM

THUMPER...flattery will get you everywhere!

Of course. Dont even ask.

My sister is sending up a disk with the lectures on it. I will send around Tuesday wednesday next week but it appears I cannot contact you're e-mail.

07-31-2005, 09:13 AM

nohope187 wrote:
Plus with you knowing how incredibly corrupt govt. is on a personal basis, you should know better than ask a naive question like that. Admit it, you had it coming to you. :-P

ADMIT IT!!! HA!!! I never admit to ANYTHING!! Besides, it wasn't all THAT BAD!!

A shield of armor wrapped around my soul!!

Ever hear of a sense of humor? Even Henry goes on HOLIDAY!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

07-31-2005, 09:15 AM

You've GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!

Say you're KIDDING!!!

nohope187

07-31-2005, 11:09 AM

Okay, "you're kidding". :-P

07-31-2005, 07:58 PM

nohope187 wrote:
Okay, "you're kidding". :-P

No, seriously, he's GOT to be kidding. I am laughing so hard!!

Really, he is kidding, isn't he???

He's must be. There is no other reasonable or logical explanation for what he just said!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)

truebeliever

07-31-2005, 08:49 PM

BA...you may be refering to my exchange with THUMPER?

If so...there is nothing to "kid" about.

I use ONE nik and ONE nik only when on the net at forums.

I have only ever posted at LF...Inside Politics and a "science one".

I am completely open about myself and dont play games on forums.

I leave that to others.

I hope that clears things up for you.

We see what we want to see and it often expresses the nature of our own soul...

07-31-2005, 09:45 PM

truebeliever wrote:
BA...you may be refering to my exchange with THUMPER?

If so...there is nothing to "kid" about.

I use ONE nik and ONE nik only when on the net at forums.

I have only ever posted at LF...Inside Politics and a "science one".

I am completely open about myself and dont play games on forums.

I leave that to others.

I hope that clears things up for you.

We see what we want to see and it often expresses the nature of our own soul...

My comment was not about you.

The nothing to "kid" about is your motto!!

Now you're telling me where you have posted and that you don't play games on forums.

And, this your saying, because????

You leave games to others!! Okay, TB, I see that you consider yourself the INTERNET KING!! The one who is going to save the world!!! all by himself.

Clears what up????

I'm a beautiful person, TB. That's exactly as I see myself.

It must get lonely sittin' up on that high horse of yours all of the time!!!