shameful. I was just thinking yesterday that the day australia stops supporting Israel is the day im not glad to be known as Australian. Actually i always preferred to be called a child of God anyway. God says that those who bless Israel will be blessed

shameful. I was just thinking yesterday that the day australia stops supporting Israel is the day im not glad to be known as Australian. Actually i always preferred to be called a child of God anyway. God says that those who bless Israel will be blessed

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I will take Israel over Hamas and the pa any day. As far as I am concerned, Israel should expand to its biblical borders, and if that requires the mass exodus of the so-called pals, then so be it. Let them go back where they came from, Libya, Egypt and Jordan. These countries kicked them out as undesirable and have used them as chattel for their war on Israel.

There is no pal nation, people, language, culture, or history. They are uprooted Arabs kicked out of Jordan, Syria, and Egypt. Even Yasser Arafat was Egyptian. Even if you could make the argument that they were a people, these so-called Pals have shown they are not worthy of their own nation. They allowed Hamas, (a Terrorist group) to govern them, they allow terrorist to hide in their populated areas to discourage Israeli attacks, the entire Gaza strip is nothing but a cesspool, and midden heap. Time Israel did the world a favor and just bulldozed the whole area and start over.

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For, behold, in those days, and in that time*, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah (the Jews) and Jerusalem, Joel 3:1

I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of YAH Judges, and will plead with them there for My people and for My heritage Yisrael, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted My Land. 3:2

The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have you sold unto the Greeks, that you might remove them far from their border. Joel 3:6

Greeks, origin democracy, to decide by a Vote

All Nations = The UN Vote to Part His Land

YAH Judges

Proclaim you this among the Nations; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up: Joel 3:9

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I am a bit perplexed in all of this. If this goes through, then it would seem to impede the 'powers that be' in their attempt to use this conflict to their own ends. What I mean is that, this never-ending scenario has always been the prelude and crux to every 'terrorist' illusion (psy-op) or not, in the the war against 'it'.

Overthrowing Islamic governments and peoples in order to install one's own, who will accommodate such 'ends' seems to be part of the path to this endgame. If this goes through, how will they still conclude their power-grab and how will it continue in this Iran vs Israel agenda if there is this 'peace and security'?

Iran seems to be the entree on the menu at present (wmds scenario), so what do the members see happening if Palestine is allowed into the UN? How can Israel still be the target of Iranian wrath, if it agrees with this 'peace' solution? Or will they?

Do we see this as just a mere 'paper' contract, swirled within the smoke and mirrors to which Israel will not contend with, escalating into a major war?

Or is this just a part of that 'plan' in that everyone knows they will not contend with it and this is the planned instigation to that 'war'? Or will there be no more war and peace on earth will reign, as the utopian, new agers believe?

Re: NOW! 3pm EST!!: Palestinian bid is up to voting! 3 Links to Live Broadcast inside

I am a bit perplexed in all of this. If this goes through, then it would seem to impede the 'powers that be' in their attempt to use this conflict to their own ends. What I mean is that, this never-ending scenario has always been the prelude and crux to every 'terrorist' illusion (psy-op) or not, in the the war against 'it'.

Overthrowing Islamic governments and peoples in order to install one's own, who will accommodate such 'ends' seems to be part of the path to this endgame. If this goes through, how will they still conclude their power-grab and how will it continue in this Iran vs Israel agenda if there is this 'peace and security'?

Iran seems to be the entree on the menu at present (wmds scenario), so what do the members see happening if Palestine is allowed into the UN? How can Israel still be the target of Iranian wrath, if it agrees with this 'peace' solution? Or will they?

Do we see this as just a mere 'paper' contract, swirled within the smoke and mirrors to which Israel will not contend with, escalating into a major war?

Or is this just a part of that 'plan' in that everyone knows they will not contend with it and this is the planned instigation to that 'war'? Or will there be no more war and peace on earth will reign, as the utopian, new agers believe?

Thoughts?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28715394

Rather than thinking of it as a grand plan by whoever and how it will fulfill prophecies, i like to look at this in this light.The era of power and greed is coming to an end. We are at the threshold of moving from one age to another. Dominant energies are changing from poer to ethics. As a result we are seeing a changhe in attitude and understanding. Humanity is begining to realise each other as one entity and thus begining to see others as themselves.What i see is a revolution taking place within human soul and thus even those in power are begining tofeel the effect.The stuborn and greedy will resist to the end and will lose a place in future of humanity. But those who realise the effect of change will go with the new flow and that is exactly what we are seeing.Within 5 years the regime that is running Israel will vanish from pages of history. The peoiple of Israel will remain and have to live with palestininans under a different rule.The new emerging energies will not allow domination of one race over the other in that region of earth. It all started in that land and whatever takes place in that region will be an example for the rest of the world.Prophecies and plans by so called TPTB have no dominion over universal energies that govern the galaxy, regardless of different views on this forum. peace

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how long before the vote is cast?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5449673

from an earlier post:

Anybody know what time the voting is?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10091207

They chose the "International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People" for the vote, which is set to take place at 21:00 GMT and will be preceded by a number of speeches focusing on the rights of the Palestinians.

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Vote is only for the ability to be a "non-member observer state" of the UN.

Quoting: pool

Regardless it is a step in a new direction that eventually will gather power.A point of interest is this. The British said that they will agree NOT to object and only obstain as long as Palestine promises not to take Israel to court for war crimes. This by itself is very interesting and begs the following.1/ If Israel has done nothing wrong and are not guilty of any war crimes then why would the British have such demands?2/ Unless they are indeed guilty of war crimes that will eventually implicate the British themselves as part of these crimes.In reality the British have shot themselves in the foot and are not running scared.They clearly realise that tables are turning and re begging for some sort of negotiations.

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The U.N. General Assembly is set to implicitly recognize a sovereign state of Palestine on Thursday despite threats by the United States and Israel to punish the Palestinian Authority by withholding much-needed funds for the West Bank government.

Israel, the United States and a handful of other members are set to vote against what they see as a largely symbolic and counterproductive move by the Palestinians

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeated to reporters in Washington on Wednesday the U.S. view that the Palestinian move was misguided and efforts should focus instead on reviving the stalled Middle East peace process.

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland reiterated U.S. warnings that the move could cause a reduction of U.S. economic support for the Palestinians. The Israelis have also warned they might take significant deductions out of monthly transfers of duties that Israel collects on the Palestinians' behalf.

"The decision at the United Nations will change nothing on the ground," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in Jerusalem. "It will not advance the establishment of a Palestinian state. It will delay it further."

Re: NOW! 3pm EST!!: Palestinian bid is up to voting! 3 Links to Live Broadcast inside

Vote is only for the ability to be a "non-member observer state" of the UN.

Quoting: pool

Regardless it is a step in a new direction that eventually will gather power.A point of interest is this. The British said that they will agree NOT to object and only obstain as long as Palestine promises not to take Israel to court for war crimes. This by itself is very interesting and begs the following.1/ If Israel has done nothing wrong and are not guilty of any war crimes then why would the British have such demands?2/ Unless they are indeed guilty of war crimes that will eventually implicate the British themselves as part of these crimes.In reality the British have shot themselves in the foot and are not running scared.They clearly realise that tables are turning and re begging for some sort of negotiations.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5449673

Interesting and true. There are so many war contracts between nations, it control their alliance.

This is what an attempted corrupt passive internal Coup D'Etat looks like....and the counter Coup D'Etat by the non-corrupt portion of the intelligence community is underway.~Useless Cookie Eater

Re: NOW! 3pm EST!!: Palestinian bid is up to voting! 3 Links to Live Broadcast inside

The U.N. General Assembly is set to implicitly recognize a sovereign state of Palestine on Thursday despite threats by the United States and Israel to punish the Palestinian Authority by withholding much-needed funds for the West Bank government.

Israel, the United States and a handful of other members are set to vote against what they see as a largely symbolic and counterproductive move by the Palestinians

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeated to reporters in Washington on Wednesday the U.S. view that the Palestinian move was misguided and efforts should focus instead on reviving the stalled Middle East peace process.

State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland reiterated U.S. warnings that the move could cause a reduction of U.S. economic support for the Palestinians. The Israelis have also warned they might take significant deductions out of monthly transfers of duties that Israel collects on the Palestinians' behalf.

"The decision at the United Nations will change nothing on the ground," Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in Jerusalem. "It will not advance the establishment of a Palestinian state. It will delay it further."

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19976094

clearly it is a biased report that claims nothing will change.Yet this very vote is the first step towards arresting the very people whom the reporters of the above article are supporting.

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shameful. I was just thinking yesterday that the day australia stops supporting Israel is the day im not glad to be known as Australian. Actually i always preferred to be called a child of God anyway. God says that those who bless Israel will be blessed