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Topic: no danger in oral sex? (Read 15239 times)

Hello everybody,Here is my question;Recently came back from vacation(south-america) where I received a blowjob in a parkinglot behind a nightclub.I used a condom but it was of those made in China not to be sold....( a very big problem overthere ).Anyway,during the blowjob I could feel friction as he(a transgender) seemed to use also his teeth,I know I should have stopped inmmediately but for some strange reaon I didn't.The whole thing lasted only a few minutes and I didn't even ejaculate just some precum.After I stopped I carefully removed the condem but it was dark and I honestly can't say if it was broken or ripped because he scrapped with his teeth.I did't feel any pain afterwards.Many hours later back home I decided to check my penis and didn't see any visible bloodstains only a small inflammation on the foreskin.Now I now that insertive oral sex is very low risk and I did use a condom(from disputable quality) but there is the fact that I felt teeth scrapping my penis during the blowjob and the inflammation.I red earlier from someone who got a blowjob for 8 hours(??)that there was blood,scrapping,etc but the moderaters said no change for infection?Isn't there from the moment that blood to blood or blood onto a recent inflammation,small cut,etc is a very high risk factor?certainly on a mucalous part as the foreskin?what is the difference there with other parts of the body,why isn't that no risk accordingly to your moderaters?I mean 8 hours blowing and blood and no risk?

Getting a blowjob is absolutely not a risk for hiv infection, with or without a condom.

Not only is saliva not infectious, it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect. It doesn't matter about any cuts or scrapes. Saliva is NOT infectious!

And don't even go there with questions about blood in the other person's mouth. Unless you're in the habit of repeatedly punching the person about to blow you in the mouth, there couldn't possibly be enough blood present to be of concern.

Not one person has ever been infected by getting a blowjob and you won't be the first.

We're not responsible for the often inaccurate information on other websites.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple! Read through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use them correctly and with confidence.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

Yesterday I had a rather passionate kiss with a women I just met a few hours prior,at one point she bit in my tongue and it hurted,is there any danger of hiv transmission?I saw that my tongue was damaged a bit(a small open wound).I read that saliva kills the hiv virus but Im worried because of the small wound under the tongue and a possible gateway for transmission.

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Im sorry I ask the same question again,I know im supposed to merge it with previous questions but I honestly dont know how!I go to ·show own posts" but dont no what do further?Sorry again,maybe u can explain me again? And please can u give an answer to me ?

Yesterday I had a rather passionate kiss with a women I just met a few hours prior,at one point she bit in my tongue and it hurted,is there any danger of hiv transmission?I saw that my tongue was damaged a bit(a small open wound).I read that saliva kills the hiv virus but Im worried because of the small wound under the tongue and a possible gateway for transmission.

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Yesterday I had a rather passionate kiss with a women I just met a few hours prior,at one point she bit in my tongue and it hurted,is there any danger of hiv transmission?I saw that my tongue was damaged a bit(a small open wound).I read that saliva kills the hiv virus but Im worried because of the small wound under the tongue and a possible gateway for transmission.

I've merged your threads here. Please follow our rule and keep all of your entries in this same thread.

Bitten tongue or not, kissing is not in anyway a risk for HiV transmission. You are worrying needlessly.

The only confirmed and certain risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. Everything else in terms of risk is "theoretical." In the real world of HIV we know risk about unprotected intercourse.

Is kissing someone who just kissed someone before who might be hiv+ cause a risk for infection, kissing as a third party so the speak?Also,does alcohol destroy the enzymes find in saliva that might otherwise protect u?

does having another std besides hiv increases the risk for transmission by reveiving oral sex?Like a ulcer on the begiinning of the penis shaft or something?Sorry to keep going on about this but oral my windowperiod is closing so getting more ans more nervous

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The answer is no because receiving oral is not under any circumstances a risk for HIV transmission to the person receiving oral. Zip. Zero. No risk. Get it?

If you have an active std and have unprotected intercourse, either vaginal or anal, that is a higher risk for HIV transmission. The only confirmed risks for HIV transmission sexually are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse.

You've been told all of this before. I am going to warn you that if you come back with more of this same no risk stuff you are going to get a Time Out from the site. Consider yourself warned.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

hi,Yesterday I received a blowjob from a sex worker, the thing Im worried about is that l have very small scap in the middle on the shaft of my penis due to masturbation a few days earlier.I know that u say receiving oral is no risk but I read so much on other websites that its no danger unless u have broken skin and therefore the increase of white bloodcells which the virus needs.Please,I know I wrote before about receiving oral sex and your answers were a great comfort for piece of mind but I am married and I dont want to put my wife at risk.I know it might all sound paranoid but for me it feels like a real fear.

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A lot of those people with that many posts have been previously timed-out. And some are people who had actual risks.

You've been told repeatedly that getting a blowjob is not a risk for hiv infection. Not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

This means it doesn't matter that you had a scrape on your penis when you got sucked off.

It seems to me that your anxiety over getting blowjobs is more to do with your guilt of playing outside your marriage. If you have this reaction every time you get a sly blowjob, why don't you just stop getting the (NO RISK) blowjobs? We're not here to hold you hand every time you cheat on your wife.

And if you use this forum to continue to wring your hands over this latest NO RISK blowjob, you WILL be given that time out Rodney warned you about.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

I really wanne thank all the members for their advice and it put my mind very much at ease and yes I think it is as Ann said,for the most part, a feeling of guilt but nevertheless also from fear.But can I ask one more question regarding kissing please?I know deep kissing is safe but Im a smoker for 20 years now and I never saw this question ask before;does smoking effect the ability of saliva killing the hiv virus while kissing(maybe even more when there is a small wound in your mouth)?

Hi,Im sorry to bother u again with a question.When it comes to oral sex all members her refer to proven cases with serodiscordant couples wher none of the hiv- persons became +.Here's my question;Isn't this due to the fact that they,I presume, all use antiretroviral drugs and therefore have a low to undetectable viral load?Whereas at least 1/5 of infected people( in the developed world) don't know that they are infected and therefore not use ard and are a tread for continous infection.

Hi,Im sorry to bother u again with a question.When it comes to oral sex all members her refer to proven cases with serodiscordant couples wher none of the hiv- persons became +.Here's my question;Isn't this due to the fact that they,I presume, all use antiretroviral drugs and therefore have a low to undetectable viral load?Whereas at least 1/5 of infected people( in the developed world) don't know that they are infected and therefore not use ard and are a tread for continous infection.

Thank u

No it's because oral sex isn't a risk and saliva has over a dozen diffenent enzymes and proteins that inhibit HIV transmission.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

I wanted to ask that if u put on a condom inside out (which I read is one one the most common mistakes) how much does this increases the risk of contracting hiv and im asking this not just for oral( I know u say this is not a danger) but also vaginal intercourse.

It's impossible to put a condom on inside out - it just won't roll down. It's common to accidentally get it the wrong way around and discover the mistake when it won't roll. This little problem absolutely does NOT interfere with the condom's effectiveness and ability to prevent hiv transmission.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

You're not going to become infected through the skin on the base or shaft of your penis. The skin on the base and shaft are no different to skin anywhere else on your body. Hiv can only infect a very few, very specific types of cells and these cells are not found on the surface of the skin.

They ARE found in the lining of your urethra and if you're uncut, the inner portion of your foreskin that you cannot see when it is not pulled back to expose the head.

It's the head that's important and needs to be covered. As long as the head is covered, there is no problem.

Did you ever bother to read the condom and lube links in my signature line?

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

This might be another siilly question but if possible I would like a respons. If u shave(with clear cuts and blood pesent afterwards) can u be infected by water thats been used by an hiv+ person just minutes before

This might be another siilly question but if possible I would like a respons. If u shave(with clear cuts and blood pesent afterwards) can u be infected by water thats been used by an hiv+ person just minutes before

HIV is a fragile virus. In order to be transmitted successfully it needs the kind of receptive setting which unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse and shared intravenous needles provide. Don't share needles and use condoms everytime you have intercourse and you will be well protected. It's just that simple.

So you can stop with the one more little question and get on with your life. Really.

Ok,I know Andy or some of the members are going to kill me for another"little question" but here it goes,please bare with me one more time.Im currently staying with a family were one of the members is a male sexworker who doesnt care much about safety(he never had a test),this is why I asked the in my previous post about can water transfer.... But today we were talking in general and he showed me a some of his scares but there was also a fresh little wound,I didnt mean to touch it but as he moved his elbow I did by accident and as I showed something on my arm I touched with the same finger a very tiny little wound on my arm,I guess due to a mosquitobite I scratched open earlier.At that moment I didnt think anything about it but later....u guessed it.I know touching doesnt transfer the virus ( then I wouldnt have touched his arm right),but it just that finger on his wound and then immediately to a very small wound on me.I red on this forum over and over again that the virus doesnt reproduce outside its host but bringing blood ,no matter how small the amount ,to your own wound must be carry some kind of danger no?What else about healthcare workers who have been infected?

I know im getting obsessed about it but only when I find myself in situations where there was blood because it is the most dangerous form of transfer,and connecting this to my very first question about oral sex,I visited the just poz forum and just in recent times 2 newly infected claim it was due to oral sex,why would they lie?

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And now I am going to give you a Time Out for 28 days for returning repeatedly here about situations which we have explained are not risky. Don't make the mistake of trying to get around the Time Out by creating a new name. We'll spot that right off and it will get you permanently banned from the site.

HIV is not your problem. If you can't accept that then get some professional help to deal with your fears. We can't address that problem in this setting.

I recently sat in a bar opposite a man who had the tendency to spit a lot when he spoke and I got quite some in my eye.They say saliva isnt infectious but the spit landed in the membranes of my eye which i presume is very receptive as u read an many webpages.Am in danger of contracting hiv in this way?Please dont dismiss my question immediately as rediculous,I know I just come out of a time out and regarding my previous questions,I accepted that u were right but about some means of transmission Im still ignorant hence the question about spitting.Health care workers seemed to have been infected by blood in the eye.Is saliva maybe mixed with some blood into the eye an hiv transmission:I know that saliva carries low quantatities of the hiv virus but the mucolous membrane of the eye is so sensitive so couldnt this be a greater danger,again maybe mixed with particles of blood.Im not making this situation up,the guy was really drunk,didnt seemed to have a healthy oral enviroment, giving me sometimes a shower.At some point I even stopped talking to him.And no,no blowjobs involved this time so no feeling of guilt.

Thank u and hoping to receive an answer soon,with my previous paranoid questions u really did help, hope u do the same nowThanks

I recently sat in a bar opposite a man who had the tendency to spit a lot when he spoke and I got quite some in my eye.They say saliva isnt infectious but the spit landed in the membranes of my eye which i presume is very receptive as u read an many webpages.Am in danger of contracting hiv in this way?Please dont dismiss my question immediately as rediculous,I know I just come out of a time out and regarding my previous questions,I accepted that u were right but about some means of transmission Im still ignorant hence the question about spitting.Health care workers seemed to have been infected by blood in the eye.Is saliva maybe mixed with some blood into the eye an hiv transmission:I know that saliva carries low quantatities of the hiv virus but the mucolous membrane of the eye is so sensitive so couldnt this be a greater danger,again maybe mixed with particles of blood.Im not making this situation up,the guy was really drunk,didnt seemed to have a healthy oral enviroment, giving me sometimes a shower.At some point I even stopped talking to him.And no,no blowjobs involved this time so no feeling of guilt.

Thank u and hoping to receive an answer soon,with my previous paranoid questions u really did help, hope u do the same nowThanks

Antwerpen,

Getting spit in your eye is not a risk for HIV transmission. Not only does saliva contain substances which inhibit the virus but so do human tears. It doesn't matter that the man in question was drunk or may have had bad oral hygiene.

What you've experienced is unpleasant, but not a risk for HIV.

We have explained to you how HIV is transmitted. Please be aware that you will not be allowed to continue asking about these sorts of no risk situations. Your next time out will be 56 days long.

Yes I have bothered to read them ,but why is what I ask so redicolous when health care workers have been infected by bloodspats in the eye and that is what me and many others are worried about, wether about blowing, open mouth kissing or spitting....what if there is blood present(even if its not that visible,but how would u see that anyway during conversational spitting)

You are making very loose and unfounded generalizations about how infection takes place. Even the blood spattering that you refer to in health workers is a very rare occurence and in certain very specific circumstances.

There has never been a documented case of transmission through kissing, spitting or receiving a blow job. Neither kissing with blood in the mouth nor saliva are infectious. You may want to spend further time on these exchanges but we don't. If you persist with these unfounded worries and questions you are very quickly going to find youirself getting a Time Out.

Maybe another site will indulge you in this kind of useless chatter. Consider youirself warned.

Yesterday I took ,for the first time part,on mutual masturbation which during the act the other guy touched my anus(he also touched himself for a moment),I dont think he got inside ,I would have felt that i presume, but is there danger of hiv infection if some semen because of the masturbation touched my anus?Yes I know u will find this again a silly question but it is not for me

Yesterday I took ,for the first time part,on mutual masturbation which during the act the other guy touched my anus(he also touched himself for a moment),I dont think he got inside ,I would have felt that i presume, but is there danger of hiv infection if some semen because of the masturbation touched my anus?Yes I know u will find this again a silly question but it is not for me

Thank u

It's not a silly question so much as an exasperating one.

We have explained to you, on more than one occasion, how HIV is transmitted. If you had really taken notice of that you wouldn't be here asking this question because you'd know better.

Getting semen on your anus IS NOT A RISK for HIV transmission. HIV is transmitted INSIDE the body. The anus is on the outside. HIV cannot get at the cells it needs to mount an infection out there.

Seriously, if you've haven't gotten the message by now I think there is very little more we can do to help you.