No no I'm not saying that, I'm simply saying we need to resolve things with Korea, hopefully purely in a political way, without going to war. However, as this thread proves, they are less than inclined to listen. Hopefully it never comes to war, but Korea are a loose cannon.

Yeah, they are both stubborn in my opinion to open up to either side, the only way things would likely change is a governmental change from the North. Personally I think Korea would be a cool place to visit, if it wasn't so hostile that is.

I don't quite understand how it's unacceptable for them to do whatever the hell they want - that is exactly what the USA has been doing for 60+ years.

We are the ONLY country who was actually used nuclear weapons as an act of war - if anything we have shown that we should not be allowed to have such weapons.

"Whatever the hell they want" includes horrific human rights abuses including the use of Nazi/Stalinist-style concentration camps, where people are tortured and killed on a massive scale (Human rights in North Korea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), as well as subjecting their people to famine and starvation due to their forced isolation while all the wealth goes to the army and leadership - so no they shouldn't be put up with, but political measures should be used first. Another Iraq isn't the solution when the war would cause far more suffering even than that particular regime does.

As for nuclear weapons, they're a blight on the world and we came FAR too close to destroying ourselves with the damn things. Nobody should be allowed to have such weapons - but sadly they exist, and as such efforts must be taken in order to decrease their numbers and minimise the chance of their use.

I don't quite understand how it's unacceptable for them to do whatever the hell they want - that is exactly what the USA has been doing for 60+ years.

We are the ONLY country who was actually used nuclear weapons as an act of war - if anything we have shown that we should not be allowed to have such weapons.

Do you not realize what an absurd argument that is? We're the only nation that's used nuclear weapons as an act of war (as has already been stated, they're WEAPONS, after all) because we invented them. It's precisely because of this that we understand and respect their destructive power and seek to prevent others from using them. Back when we were the only nation with nuclear weapons, we used them twice to stop a war that had enveloped the entire world, and not since. They were not used lightly, and in all likelihood, wouldn't have been used again even if we'd remained the sole nuclear power in the world.

I'll never understand the way a lot of people view America. If we were really as terrible and barbaric and genocidal as a lot of people seem to think, we would have just dropped the bomb on the Soviet Union and called it good. If nobody else had the atomic bomb, we wouldn't use it. If somebody like North Korea were the only country with atomic bombs, do you think they'd hesitate to use them to get their ends?

Wow, I shelled out for a proper Seamaster, and I've gotta say, this knockoff looks damn close to the real deal. The only noticable differences I can see here is the glow in the dark dot on the bezel is too big and the Omega logo on the face is painted, whereas mine is stainless steel.