It also says the guy abused Robinson and his wife for 15 minutes before he got punched. So who is in the right and who is in the wrong? Perhaps this guy has to learn you can't go around shouting abuse at people and not get a smack? Until the whole truth comes out it's merely speculation on either side.

Angry Andy wrote:Thats because he has a history of violence and fighting. Nasty little coward.Admired by many on your other forum.

I disagree he just stands up for what he believes like everyone have that right for now - the media have always made out that he is wrong - he has been punched before through his car window and everyone thought it was his fault when he never did anything wrong .

I'll tell you what become of him Andy, he, like me got fed up of your continuous hypocrisy and rabid left wing bollocks that you continually infest the forum with. Take a step back and realise that you are nothing like the easy going good natured poster you used to be ! have you been infected with Scrats disease?

Tommy Robinson: Stephen Yaxley-Lennon Explains The Making Of An Alter-Ego Even His Wife Can’t Stand

He was born Stephen Yaxley, to an Irish immigrant mother and an English father, but when his mother re-married, his surname became double barrelled – Yaxley-Lennon – although, often he is just Stephen Lennon. Like most things concerning Robinson – a convicted fraudster - his real name isn’t clear. In September 2012 Robinson pretended to be Andrew McMaster – a friend he bore some resemblance to – so he could illegally enter the US. He can’t travel there because he’s been convicted of possessing a Class A drug. Sentencing him to 10 months jail in January 2013, Judge Alistair McCreath, noted Robinson’s legitimate passport lists him as Paul Harris, a matter he chose not to delve into.

The real Tommy Robinson is a former top-boy football hooligan with the Luton Town MIGs who later wrote two books about his 25-years of supporting his team with his fists. A career noteworthy enough to see Britain’s most dangerous prisoner, Charles Bronson, write the foreword for one of them.

A more fitting title perhaps may have been the ‘Enemy Within’, as Robinson, rather than the state, has dismantled his own life - kicking it off by slamming his foot into a cop’s head at 21, ending a career that had barely started after a five-year apprenticeship.

After high school Robinson got an apprenticeship to study aircraft engineering at Luton Airport, but shortly after qualifying he was jailed for a year for assaulting an off-duty policeman. The conviction means he can’t work at an airport.

“I’m honest. I’ve always gotten, I’ve always gotten borderline, into scraps and that as a youth. It’s just the truth,” Robinson offers, when asked about his propensity for violence.

“I was sort of elevated... when I was growing up a lot of my family was involved in football hooliganism. So, like the people I was looking up to, like my cousins, were pretty instrumental in Luton’s football hooliganism scene.”

The officer had come to the rescue of Robinson’s then girlfriend - now wife (who he asked the Huffington Post UK not to name as it would “endanger her and my kids”). The couple were “drunk arguing” at 3am. The cop wanted to walk Robinson’s girlfriend home.

ail made Robinson “an angry young lad who didn’t give a fuck about much”.

“I fucken hated the police. I hated the system. And I was sorta-like, there was a few times I thought, ‘nah fuck you man, fuck...’ that’s how I felt. I felt like I shouldn’t of gone to jail for what I did. He had a black eye. So did I.

For example I may not agree with you on Islam and believe many views within Islam are actually extreme, as they are within Christianity and Judaism. However I might agree on other views with you. Does that make you and I both twats and you then an extremist for following Islam.

Tommy is a twat, that does not mean some of the things he says are wrong. Some things he says are absolutely spot on.

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nicko wrote:I'll tell you what become of him Andy, he, like me got fed up of your continuous hypocrisy and rabid left wing bollocks that you continually infest the forum with. Take a step back and realise that you are nothing like the easy going good natured poster you used to be ! have you been infected with Scrats disease?

I changed when Daen sanctioned hacking of mine and Sassy's computers by Bliar/Chris P Bacon/Hugh/Durham or whatever incarnation he used. Forumotion saw fit to delete huge swathes of the offending parts of Flop and banned the offender.That was the start of the rot of that pkace.What was once a lively left/right political forum where we bashed each other over Blair, Brown,Cameron, IDS, and Osborn, has become a racist fascist ridden place occupied by some absolute weiros, Stormee, Blackie, Allakaka, all of whom are tolerated by yourself , Raggs, Moley and few others.Deen couldnt hack opposition so he banned Sassy, myself, KD, Irn Bru Scrat and I believe Joy Division.TBH, it was a blessing in disguise as it is now a borderline proscribed site by the Home Office, known to incite racism homophobia.My posistion hasn't changed. Still support Labour. And still post on forums that do not encourage race hate.

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For example I may not agree with you on Islam and believe many views within Islam are actually extreme, as they are within Christianity and Judaism. However I might agree on other views with you. Does that make you and I both twats and you then an extremist for following Islam.

Tommy is a twat, that does not mean some of the things he says are wrong. Some things he says are absolutely spot on.

It's the "blind" following of a twat that makes their supporters a twat. Perhaps you missed that bit.

For example I may not agree with you on Islam and believe many views within Islam are actually extreme, as they are within Christianity and Judaism. However I might agree on other views with you. Does that make you and I both twats and you then an extremist for following Islam.

Tommy is a twat, that does not mean some of the things he says are wrong. Some things he says are absolutely spot on.

It's the "blind" following of a twat that makes their supporters a twat. Perhaps you missed that bit.

And yes, I am twat. Which makes you one too. Deal with it.

i could say the same of the blind following of religion.

Again you do not have to be a supporter of him to agree or disagree on his views.

The reality is many ideologies are problematic

_________________At this point I do not know what is worse.A person who is full of envy spreading rumours and lies.Or the people with not enough education or common sense who believe them.

For example I may not agree with you on Islam and believe many views within Islam are actually extreme, as they are within Christianity and Judaism. However I might agree on other views with you. Does that make you and I both twats and you then an extremist for following Islam.

Tommy is a twat, that does not mean some of the things he says are wrong. Some things he says are absolutely spot on.

It's the "blind" following of a twat that makes their supporters a twat. Perhaps you missed that bit.

And yes, I am twat. Which makes you one too. Deal with it.

glad we got that sorted....

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Angry Andy wrote:Bovvered? What became of the polite, well spoken, slightly right of centre "M'lord" from a few years ago?Got into the bad company of the far right, and supporting BNP thugs.

He is still polite, well spoken and slightly right of centre...except when having to deal with brainwashed, lying, hypocritical loony Left louts, at which point he is able easily to translate and adapt to the sort of monosyllabic grunts and semi-literate garbage which characterises their normal standards of communication.

nicko wrote:I'll tell you what become of him Andy, he, like me got fed up of your continuous hypocrisy and rabid left wing bollocks that you continually infest the forum with. Take a step back and realise that you are nothing like the easy going good natured poster you used to be ! have you been infected with Scrats disease?

I changed when Daen sanctioned hacking of mine and Sassy's computers by Bliar/Chris P Bacon/Hugh/Durham or whatever incarnation he used. Forumotion saw fit to delete huge swathes of the offending parts of Flop and banned the offender.That was the start of the rot of that pkace.What was once a lively left/right political forum where we bashed each other over Blair, Brown,Cameron, IDS, and Osborn, has become a racist fascist ridden place occupied by some absolute weiros, Stormee, Blackie, Allakaka, all of whom are tolerated by yourself , Raggs, Moley and few others.Deen couldnt hack opposition so he banned Sassy, myself, KD, Irn Bru Scrat and I believe Joy Division.TBH, it was a blessing in disguise as it is now a borderline proscribed site by the Home Office, known to incite racism homophobia.My posistion hasn't changed. Still support Labour. And still post on forums that do not encourage race hate.

I have no idea of what was behind the banning of those people other than in the case of Scrat, which was centred in large part on his repeated and routine use of the word "Nazi" to describe anyone who disagreed with him. This led to a ban by head on use of the word inany post by any forum member unless they were prepared to attach an actual post deserving of it.

Scrat's response was simply to use the totally unwarranted and unjustifiable word "Nazi" even more routinely and repeatedly when referring to others.

He was warned, did it even more and was rightly banned.

The fact that he has a long history of bans from other forums is a pretty clear indication of his attitude.

In the meantime, proscription of an organisation or site by the Home Office is a legal procedure which means that it is banned, and that breaches of the Order are punishable by prosecution on criminal charges.

In other words you are, yet again, a liar.

And finally, as I have challenged you repeatedly, find just one post of mine - ever - to back up your frequent claims that I both post racist material and support those who do so.

The fact that you have never once been able to do so clearly identifies you as both a liar and a hypocrite.

nicko wrote:I'll tell you what become of him Andy, he, like me got fed up of your continuous hypocrisy and rabid left wing bollocks that you continually infest the forum with. Take a step back and realise that you are nothing like the easy going good natured poster you used to be ! have you been infected with Scrats disease?

I changed when Daen sanctioned hacking of mine and Sassy's computers by Bliar/Chris P Bacon/Hugh/Durham or whatever incarnation he used. Forumotion saw fit to delete huge swathes of the offending parts of Flop and banned the offender.That was the start of the rot of that pkace.What was once a lively left/right political forum where we bashed each other over Blair, Brown,Cameron, IDS, and Osborn, has become a racist fascist ridden place occupied by some absolute weiros, Stormee, Blackie, Allakaka, all of whom are tolerated by yourself , Raggs, Moley and few others.Deen couldnt hack opposition so he banned Sassy, myself, KD, Irn Bru Scrat and I believe Joy Division.TBH, it was a blessing in disguise as it is now a borderline proscribed site by the Home Office, known to incite racism homophobia.My posistion hasn't changed. Still support Labour. And still post on forums that do not encourage race hate.

You tolerate the filth coming from Scrat and Phil on Sassy's forum, and so does she. You have no grounds to complain about what someone else tolerates.

HoratioTarr wrote:It also says the guy abused Robinson and his wife for 15 minutes before he got punched. So who is in the right and who is in the wrong? Perhaps this guy has to learn you can't go around shouting abuse at people and not get a smack? Until the whole truth comes out it's merely speculation on either side.

Fourteen years ago, he put a policeman in hospital and got 12 months in jail for the attack. It wasn't at a political rally, it was on a night out, socialising. It must have been a proper nasty attack. Guess what? The policeman had only stepped in to protect Robinson's wife when he saw that Robinson was bullying her.

He should keep his wife out of the equation instead of using her as an excuse, when the police come knocking on his door to question him about this latest fight.

His problem is he's been involved in too much shit in his past and shit sticks. So, no, I'm not sure anybody will ever really take him seriously. I don't really think he's an ideal figurehead. I wish Christopher Hitchens was still alive.

HoratioTarr wrote:It also says the guy abused Robinson and his wife for 15 minutes before he got punched. So who is in the right and who is in the wrong? Perhaps this guy has to learn you can't go around shouting abuse at people and not get a smack? Until the whole truth comes out it's merely speculation on either side.

Fourteen years ago, he put a policeman in hospital and got 12 months in jail for the attack. It wasn't at a political rally, it was on a night out, socialising. It must have been a proper nasty attack. Guess what? The policeman had only stepped in to protect Robinson's wife when he saw that Robinson was bullying her.

He should keep his wife out of the equation instead of using her as an excuse, when the police come knocking on his door to question him about this latest fight.

He's not someone I've ever followed, so that's interesting. The problem with shady pasts is they catch up with you.

Angry Andy wrote:I changed when Daen sanctioned hacking of mine and Sassy's computers by Bliar/Chris P Bacon/Hugh/Durham or whatever incarnation he used. Forumotion saw fit to delete huge swathes of the offending parts of Flop and banned the offender.That was the start of the rot of that pkace.What was once a lively left/right political forum where we bashed each other over Blair, Brown,Cameron, IDS, and Osborn, has become a racist fascist ridden place occupied by some absolute weiros, Stormee, Blackie, Allakaka, all of whom are tolerated by yourself , Raggs, Moley and few others.Deen couldnt hack opposition so he banned Sassy, myself, KD, Irn Bru Scrat and I believe Joy Division.TBH, it was a blessing in disguise as it is now a borderline proscribed site by the Home Office, known to incite racism homophobia.My posistion hasn't changed. Still support Labour. And still post on forums that do not encourage race hate.

I have no idea of what was behind the banning of those people.

You try to give the impression that you are learned and have a modicum of intelligence.My question was WHY were myself, Scrat, Sassy, Irn Bru, KD, and Joy Fivision thrown off the flop forum?You have no idea????

Really?

We clearly have a commonality. Are We all men? No.Are we all female? No.Are we all conservatives? No.Are we all black? No.Are we all Muslims? No.Did we try to counter far right extremism, rascism, homophobia and Anti Muslim hate speech? Hmmm, Yes.So, we were banned because Flop didn't want to,lose arguements and debates.

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You try to give the impression that you are learned and habe a modicum of intelligence.My queation was WHY were myself, Scrat, Sassy, Irn Bru, KD, and Joy Fivision thrown off the flop forum?You have no idea????

Really?We clearly have a commonality. Are We all men? No.Are we all female? No.Are we all conservatives? No.Are we all black? No.Are we all Muslims? No.Did we try to counter far right extremism, rascism, homophobia and Anti Muslim hate speech? Hmmm, Yes.So, we were banned because Flop didn't want to,lose arguements and debates.

I thought these type of posts were not allowed anymore?

I have no objection to them, just some clarity on how the rules seem to continually change

_________________At this point I do not know what is worse.A person who is full of envy spreading rumours and lies.Or the people with not enough education or common sense who believe them.

Flop, Fred, Eddie, Raggs, Nicko, and a number of others post both here and there. So did those whose Flop banned.It is reasonable to find a reason why Flop turned a debating forum into s closed far right wing shop.

How would YOU feel, Didge, if Ben elected to turn this place into a Democrat and left wing site by getting rid of all the right wingers?

A bit miffed?

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Angry Andy wrote:Flop, Fred, Eddie, Raggs, Nicko, and a number of others post both here and there. So did those whose Flop banned.It is reasonable to find a reason why Flop turned a debating forum into s closed far right wing shop.

How would YOU feel, Didge, if Ben elected to turn this place into a Democrat and left wing site by getting rid of all the right wingers?

A bit miffed?

You seem a tad embittered about that place. It's only a forum, you know.

Angry Andy wrote:Flop, Fred, Eddie, Raggs, Nicko, and a number of others post both here and there. So did those whose Flop banned.It is reasonable to find a reason why Flop turned a debating forum into s closed far right wing shop.

How would YOU feel, Didge, if Ben elected to turn this place into a Democrat and left wing site by getting rid of all the right wingers?

A bit miffed?

I make personal posts on flap i.e.saying hallo and happy birthday and winding smelly up when he moans about being banned from here. etc. I don't join in debates anymore as they are all the same old tosh.

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Angry Andy wrote:Perhaps you would be as embittered as Sassy and I if Flop had attempted to hack into your computer.A bit of an extreme action for us not agreeing with his politics.

Nobody hacked into you right computers from overseas. The only person who had access to sassys actual computer, if I remember correctly, was a poster from a forum she'd never met in person. Could be wrong about that but that's what I seem to remember.

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