of the German Government or the Nazi Party or was it
against it? Do you understand the question?

OHLENDORF: Yes. One must distinguish here: The order for the
liquidation came from the Führer of the Reich, and it was to be
carried out by the Reichsführer SS Himmler.

THE TRIBUNAL (Gen. Nikitchenko): But was it in conformity with the
policy conducted by the Nazi Party and the German Government, or was it
in contradiction to it?

OHLENDORF: A policy amounts to a practice so that in this respect it
was a policy laid down by the Führer If you were to ask whether
this activity was in conformity with the idea of National Socialism,
then I should say "no."

THE TRIBUNAL (Gen. Nikitchenko): I am talking about the practice.

THE PRESIDENT: I understood you to say that objects of value were taken
from the Jewish victims by the Jewish Council of Elders.

OHLENDORF: Yes.

THE PRESIDENT: Did the Jewish Council of Elders settle who were to be
killed?

OHLENDORF: The Jewish Council of Elders determined who was a Jew, and
then registered the Jews individually.

THE PRESIDENT: And when they registered them did they take their
valuables from them?

OHLENDORF: That was done in various ways. As far as I remember, the
Council of Elders was given the order to collect valuables at the same
time.

THE PRESIDENT: So that the Jewish Council of Elders would not know
whether or not they were to be killed?