Thread # 27380 Ustaad-e-Forum myrizvi Response

Eid Meelaad un Nabi saw

Celebratingthe birth day of the ptophet saw is an innovation i.e. bida'at.the first time it was done 600 years after the death of prophet saw. Quran says: Today I have completed your DEEN for you. The prophet saw said:whoever introduces something new in our deen, which does not originally exist, that act will be rejected (Bukhari, Muslim)

Qabar Aur Shirk

I pray that on the day of judgement, May
Allah stood up lovers of Yazeed alongwith Yazeed and Lovers of Hussain RA with Hussain
RA.It is very simple, one who love during
his life with the person will stand alongwith that person on the day of
judgement.I am dumbfound that one can
give equal status to Yazeed and the Grand Son of Rasool Allah SAW.It is nothing else than the lack of knowledge
of Islam and bad luck. May Allah give us
the right wisdom.

As for as the celebration of Milad-un-Nabi
is concern, I donít think there should be any issue.If it is not celebrated during the era of Rasool
Allah or Sahaba RA it doesnít mean that it is forbidden in Islam.There is no such NUS or daleel in Quran or
Hadees that celebration of Milad-un-Nabi is against Islam or forbidden.In Quraan Allah Subhana says that when I give
you some ďNehmatĒ you should celebrate (mean Khushi Manao) and at an other
place Says that sending my Rasool to you is the biggest NEHMAT.On arrival of ďNehmatĒ we should celebrate
and on arrival of Rasool Allah which is the biggest Nehmat we should not
celebrate because it is a Bidíat, this is nothing else than the non sense.Any thing which is not forbidden through a
clear NUS/Daleel of Quran or Hadees is upto the person to take it allowed or
disallowed, the celebration of Midan-un-Nabi (as I believe) is not forbidden,
hence is very much allowed.If some donít
celebrate Milad-un-Nabi it is upto him and not any sin.We should not criticise every thing which we
donít like. We donít criticise dancing
parties, watching films, videos, dramas, bad TV channels but donít let any chance
to criticise celebration of Milad-un-Nabi.

Can any one exactly explain what is Bidíat.Generally it is taken that acts, things which
were not in the era of Raool Allah SAW or Sahaba RA are bidíat.If this the true explanation, what will you
say about the construction of MINARS of Mosques which were not than and now
every mosque having Minars, the Words of AZAM-e-Fajar which were added by
Hazrat Umar RA and we are following without any hesitation or question.What about the high rize buildings, saying of
prayer on Aeroplane, Vehicles which were not than.What will you say regarding loud speakers
which are installed in every Mosque and were not during the era of Rasool Allah.Finally, we people were not than and are very
much now mean we are the biggest bidaít.

Some of the Bidíts are Bidít-e-Ahsana
which are accepted by majority of Muslims with the passage of time as we accepted the installatin of loud speakers
in mosques, constructions of Minars, saying of prayer during air journey/road
journey, addition of words in Azzan, compulsory JAMMAT of Nimaz-e-Travi.Therefore we should also accept celebration of
Milad-un-Nabi and similar nature of acts which are not forbidden in Islam
through NUS or Daleel.

Zirat-e-Qaboor is proved from Rasool
Allah, therefore visiting of Qaboors is not forbidden or shirk, however, the way
or acts may be questioned as if some one visits qaboors and offer due it is not
only allowed but appreciable and should be followed but if some one do sajda or
act like doing Sajda it is Shirk and Kuffar which is not acceptable in any
Fiqah.

Qabar Aur Shirk

Siyah Posh

I am pleased to have reply from you.

Yes the way of celebrating Milad-un-Nabi SAW or ziyarat ul qaboor can be questioned. These must be within the limits laid down by Islam, but we can not totally disallow with out clear NUS of Quran or Hadees.

Not celebrating Milad-un-Nabi SAW by Sayaba RA or even by Hazrat Ali RA doesn't mean it is not allowed. Many acts we are doing were not done by Sahaba RA. Yes Urs being celebrated now a days at majority of Mazars is clear violation of Islam but if some one celebrate within the limits like reciting Quran and offer dua for the departed souls, it may not be forbidden.

I never said that Nimaz-e-Tarivi is Bid'at as i also offer Travi that too with Jamat and believe on it. But Rasool Allah SAW never offered travi with Jamat as a regular feature, they SAW offered it once with Jamat and discontinued thinking that it might be difficult for the people to come. They SAW made Islam easier for all.

I now some acts being done by the today's Muslims are not in accordance with the Islam they must be corrected. But totally disallowing without clear NUS is also not good.

Mufti & Siyah Posh

Both of you representing typical jahilana conversation which has been there for centuries. Yazeed sahabi hai ya nahi, etc. etc. Just to let you both certain things from the past.Wakiya e karbala, as it is being promoted in muslms today, has nothing to do with the facts. It was purely a political incidence which resulted in sad demise/shahadat of Hazrat Imam Hussain RA. Regardless of anything else, and with respect to the holiness of all the personalities, this has nothing to do with things being told such as "islam zinda hota hai her karbala ke badh". First of all, islam kisi ke baap ki jageer nahi, its not something owned by a human or any human, or even any Nabi. Its a religion, bestowed upon humanity by Allah. Allah is the custodian of Islam. therefore, all this is bullshit. Moreover, for you mufti, whenever, people tried to hide facts in history, they did it successfully by enclosing the realities in the deep down emotions of followers, just like selling the invisible. Just put the history posted by Shia'ats or Sunnis, and an independent research into history, if one really wants to find the truth, would let you know the facts. what you know and you hold in your mind, is nothing more than common bullshit. Just try to grow up mentally with your age. the worst thing with muslims today is that if they want to purchase a mobile they will ask a hundred people and will read a hundred reviews on internet but what religious beliefs they have, they are least concerned with the authenticity of these beliefs. Moreover, if you have a peculiar mindset of negating all the facts and let yourself flow with your blind emotion, that is the point where the doors of Hidayat get closed. The holy kooofa which has been fabricated in one sect's books as the holy land and land of good people and bla bla bla was the very land where whole conspiracy regarding the shahadat of Khanwada e rasool took place. MOreover, koofis were the people who abandoned the Holy Imam in the last battle. In addition to this, when hazrat Imam Hussain was about to leave madina, many sihaba who got their religious, political and military training from Nabi Pak SAW stopped him and even it is reported that some of them clutched his horse's legs and even his legs, ke ham aap ko yahan se janay nahi dain gay, koofa walon ki sarisht mein wafa nahi. And all these stories of humiliating hazrat Zainab etc. in yazeed darbar are nothing more than fables, never proved independently. Please dont be shocked or respond with typical jahilana gali galoch attitude, you will be wasting my time and yours also. In addition to all this, the political nature of karbala incidence is proved with the fact that Islamic system continued to survive to next 13 centuries in various forms. Moreover, there is always a clear distinction between the morality of individual and morality of a nation/politics. In urdu infiradi ikhlakiyat alag hoti hain aur siyasi ikhlakiyat alag. ye aap ke zehan se uper ke baat hai let me explain. Any system, any nation or any state, when exists always try to reinforce itself by eliminating the destabilizing factors acting against the system. That is why if a man kills his brother in normal life, it is under infiradi ikhlakiyat which is really a sin, but if being a king, I am facing a problem where the stability of the nation is in jeopardy due to my own brother, and many lives are expected to get wasted due to this, I would not spare it to weaken the country, nation and will forcefully neutralize it. It is a typical natural phenomenon, and quite scientific in nature (and yes, it has also been done in Iran after islami inqilab, please refer to the facts and figure available at internet and many other authentic sources regarding how shia'at government proceeded against sunni strongholds and sunni minority). Exactly the same happened in Karbala, somehow the kharji factor who was responsible for shahadat of hazrat umar, usman and hazrat ali managed to convey hazrat imama hussain that yazeed is doing some bad things, and at the same time conveyed yazeed that imam hussain wants to demolish his throne. however, there has not been proved anywhere except Shia literature, not even in independent history that yazeed ordered murder of imam hussain, Rather the kharji factor based on farsi or majosi iran, originating from the parsi culture from iranian origin, in form of shimar etc was responsible for the massacre. if you have some courage to check your ideology, you can get urself a chance to benefit from a free flow of information on internet and please dont waste my time by pasting links of those website which share your mindset, please try to reason the facts which have been given against you, you can give a better try.Now, Siyah posh, i would like to tackle your set of arguments, yazeed was sahabi, yes its true, he participated in many ghazwas and was given basharat of jannah in his life by the Holy Prophet SAW. yes that's true as per Saha e Sitta (6 authetic books of hadith) however, i would like to quote some other things, first, according to hazrat umar, ager firat ke kinaray bakri ka aik bacha bhi piyas se mar gaya to kayamat ke din umar ko hisab dayna hoga. is criteria to ko rakho samnay aur judge kero, ye kisi bakri ke bachay ka mamla nahi, Nabi Karim SAW ke nawasay ka katal hai.And i would like to put more questions for you two, blowing eachother's minds, Nabi karim SAW ke kya hazrat imam hussain aur imam hassan hi nawasay thay, aur koi nawasa nahi tha, most of the muslims dont know this, aur aik taraf aap ka aik jamhor apnay Nabi SAW ke ghaib ka ilam rakhnay ka manta hai aur dosri taraf aik firqa wahi ke galat nazool ka rona rota hai, kabhi bakri ke kuran ke siparay khanay ki batain kerta hai, kabhi etc, aur dosri taraf kisi ko ye bhi nahi pata ke Nabi Pak SAW ki total Aaal mein tha kon kon, Chand makhsoos mutabarak shaksiyat ko hi promote kernay ka maksad kya hai? Panjtan paak (which means baki sab napaak) jese ridiculous concepts jin ka wajood na quran se sabit hai na hadith se na sunna se, Siwaye aik minor si hadees ke, jis ke baray mein i am still at doubt, aur mazahiya batain phayla ker islam ko koi deomalayi kissay kahaniyan banana kahan ki akal hai, waqiya e karbala ke facts kuch aur hain, aur kissay jo mashhoor hai lagta hai koi jinnati kahaniyan sun rahay hain, o bhaiyon insano ko insan hi rehnay do, bari meharbani hogi.For you mufti, please come up with some reaons, dont waste my time. Same for you Siyah Posh