re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...

quote:Rex, defend the constitutionality of Obamacare. Here are your conditions: 1. It was not passed as a tax. 2. The recent supreme court ruling says it is a tax. 3. All tax bills must originate in the House of Representatives, but the Affordable Care Act originated in the Senate. 4. Health Insurance premiums have been rising considerably since the bills passage (more rapidly than they had prior)

Anyone else notice how the dog lover has nothing in response to the facts. Other than

re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...(Posted by Turkey_Creek_Tiger on 9/18/13 at 8:59 pm to Rex)

quote:Total costs for health care services, including everything from doctor visits and prescription drugs to surgeries, are expected to rise 6.5% in 2014, when the Affordable Care Act fully kicks in, according to a report released Tuesday.

re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...(Posted by kingbob on 9/18/13 at 9:00 pm to Rex)

quote:H.R. 3590 DID originate in the House

Actually HR 3962 originated in the House, but was abandoned after HR3590, which originated in the Senate, was approved by the Senate and passed onto the house where it was voted on via reconciliation, which is only supposed to be used for budget bills, which a tax is not.

re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...(Posted by kingbob on 9/18/13 at 9:02 pm to Rex)

Your first link says that costs were slowing (not compared to the period prior to the bill's passage) but compared to the estimate of how much costs would increase for that year. They had estimated a 5.5% increase and only got a 4.5% increase after a 3.9% increase last year. FAIL

re: You Republicans don't like Medicare or Medicaid or SocSec, either...(Posted by kingbob on 9/18/13 at 9:05 pm to Rex)

Dismissed due to the volume of cases not due to the merits of the case. Can you not dispute the merit of my claim? Can you not prove me wrong via your own merits, argumentative skills, logic, or researching abilities?

I mean, I'm just some dumb, poor, country, republican. Surely an intellectual Titan such as yourself could prove little 'ol me wrong?