Well, this was disappointing. As much as we can't blame a building, even one as bad as the hefty dome, thankfully there are only two more games left. I try to tell myself to not let this hurt, yet it still does.

Brian26

08-31-2009, 10:55 PM

Rios will come around. Next year he will rebound at the plate. The fact that Ozzie wont just leave him at CF and leave him in the lineup everyday is having an adverse effect on him

Your days here are numbered.

1908<2005

08-31-2009, 10:56 PM

No (feces).

Say, so how are your (not so) lovable losers doing?

Are we talking about the Cubs or the White Sox because both teams blow. Still think we're much better than the Cubs though.

veeter

08-31-2009, 10:56 PM

I now have to say that Kenny messed this team up when he picked up Rios. Since this trade, certain members of this team have packed it in. There was no need to pick up Rios and his bad contract, none.

That said, this team has no sack save Pods, Beckham, A.J., Floyd Danks and Garcia.The supposed professional ballplayers messed it up. Rios hasn't exactly been welcomed with open arms. These guys talk about winning championships and they fold when the team aquires a really good player? That's bull****.

Patrick134

08-31-2009, 10:56 PM

Coming up shortly. Any suggestions?

September to Remember, coming tomorrow.

DrCrawdad

08-31-2009, 10:57 PM

Are we talking about the Cubs or the White Sox because both teams blow. Still think we're much better than the Cubs though.

Which team is breaking your heart?

:dtroll:

soxyess

08-31-2009, 10:57 PM

Your days here are numbered.

Why?

Patrick134

08-31-2009, 10:57 PM

The supposed professional ballplayers messed it up. Rios hasn't exactly been welcomed with open arms. These guys talk about winning championships and they fold when the team aquires a really good player? That's bull****.

The premise is BS. Guys like Dye were slumping when Rios was still a Blue Jay.

It's Time

08-31-2009, 10:57 PM

How is this Rios' fault?

Not his fault at all. I'm actually calling out KW for picking him up on waivers. This team has completely tanked since his arrival.

Soxman219

08-31-2009, 10:58 PM

13 days 'til Bears football!:bandance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG8OpQyY6TI

GO BEARS!

CHISOXFAN13

08-31-2009, 10:58 PM

I now have to say that Kenny messed this team up when he picked up Rios. Since this trade, certain members of this team have packed it in. There was no need to pick up Rios and his bad contract, none.

That said, this team has no sack save Pods, Beckham, A.J., Floyd Danks and Garcia.

And there's NO reason for a professional to pack it in.

GoGoCrede

08-31-2009, 10:58 PM

This Pitcher Isn't Very Good, Why Aren't We Winning?: The Story of the 2009 White Sox.

Not specifically referring to Blackburn, just a trend I noticed throughout the season.

OmahaSoxFan

08-31-2009, 10:58 PM

Hey people it could be worse... we could be KC Royals or Washington Nationals fans!!! We were in this thing until a couple weeks ago, while those teams were basically done when the season started. As the team has packed it in, I've given up hope this season... but the future looks bright. This gives KW plenty of reasons to clean house a little bit and re-stock the cupboards with faster and younger talent... we'll have some good arms next year, we just need to get some of the "base-clogging, .230 hitting guys" out of this line-up. I will for one miss them, but we'll be better off when they are out of the system.

soltrain21

08-31-2009, 10:58 PM

Not his fault at all. I'm actually calling out KW for picking him up on waivers. This team has completely tanked since his arrival.

Jermaine Dye is actually hitting better since Rios joined the team. What a stupid scapegoat you are picking.

Or you are mad our GM got a centerfielder for the next few years?

Patrick134

08-31-2009, 10:58 PM

Not his fault at all. I'm actually calling out KW for picking him up on waivers. This team has completely tanked since his arrival.

It's not Rios fault. Like Peavy, he's a great pick up for the future. He wasn't here to be a magical savior.

october23sp

08-31-2009, 10:59 PM

How many wins is that in the last 20? :(:

Athrun

08-31-2009, 10:59 PM

Rios is better the Dye

Woofer

08-31-2009, 10:59 PM

Its happened. Every year that the Sox are bad, (I've lurked here since around 2003) there is that day when you check WSI during a weekday game, and the place is like a ghost town. Today is that day. I'm so disappointed in this team. It is what I've come to expect. No offense, weak pitching, blah indifferent attitudes. No fire.

It's Time

08-31-2009, 11:00 PM

The supposed professional ballplayers messed it up. Rios hasn't exactly been welcomed with open arms. These guys talk about winning championships and they fold when the team aquires a really good player? That's bull****.

I think the players that were here took it is a slap. I think most of them saw no need for Rios and his bad contract and it's messed up the chemistry.

Is it wrong? Sure. However, they have tanked since he got here.

kitekrazy

08-31-2009, 11:00 PM

Well they spared us the drama of a crushing defeat. I thank them for that.

You must be referring to the Twins.

OmahaSoxFan

08-31-2009, 11:00 PM

Its happened. Every year that the Sox are bad, (I've lurked here since around 2003) there is that day when you check WSI during a weekday game, and the place is like a ghost town. Today is that day. I'm so disappointed in this team. It is what I've come to expect. No offense, weak pitching, blah indifferent attitudes. No fire.

There just isn't much interest for a less than mediocre team anymore... I think a lot of us are waiting for this weekend and next, for football to get started. This team isn't worth much more than checking the score and watching a few innings here and there.

veeter

08-31-2009, 11:00 PM

The premise is BS. Guys like Dye were slumping when Rios was still a Blue Jay.It's been a really long slump then.

soltrain21

08-31-2009, 11:01 PM

It's been a really long slump then.

Dye's average has dropped like 40 points.

Patrick134

08-31-2009, 11:01 PM

I think the players that were here took it is a slap. I think most of them saw no need for Rios and his bad contract and it's messed up the chemistry.

Is it wrong? Sure. However, they have tanked since he got here.

What chemistry ? The chemistry that had the sox struggling to find .500 all year ?

Tragg

08-31-2009, 11:01 PM

Another sprited effort from Ozzie Guillen's White Sox.

It's Time

08-31-2009, 11:03 PM

Jermaine Dye is actually hitting better since Rios joined the team. What a stupid scapegoat you are picking.

Or you are mad our GM got a centerfielder for the next few years?

I don't think Rios is near worth what he is getting paid. And the fact is he's been worse than Anderson since he got here. Again, though, this tank job is on the sackless players.

BadBobbyJenks

08-31-2009, 11:04 PM

Was this the definition of mailing it in?

tstrike2000

08-31-2009, 11:04 PM

I guess we've now lost 9 of our last 11. Not a good effort. Best of luck to those who may be headed out of town.

veeter

08-31-2009, 11:05 PM

Dye's average has dropped like 40 points.I'll bet that's never happened in Dye's career. He's too good a hitter to be this bad for this long. He was the same age in the first half as he is now.

ohthosechisox

08-31-2009, 11:05 PM

I've chosen to laugh. And listen to Okkervil River.

Good choice. They're my favorite band. ;)

GoGoCrede

08-31-2009, 11:06 PM

Good choice. They're my favorite band. ;)

"A Stone" is one of most beautiful songs I have ever heard. Dulled the pain of this game.

chisoxfanatic

08-31-2009, 11:07 PM

Ever since Jose botched that sure 3rd out last Monday, which opened the floodgates, this team has spun out of control.

Frankfan4life

08-31-2009, 11:07 PM

I just want to win some games. A four or five-game winning streak would really lift my spirits. I just need for this team to play some good baseball for a change. That is all.

Patrick134

08-31-2009, 11:08 PM

Ever since Jose botched that sure 3rd out last Monday, which opened the floodgates, this team has spun out of control.

Great point. If Jose makes that play, this whole trip could have been different, and if you think otherwise, you don't understand momentum in baseball.

kitekrazy

08-31-2009, 11:09 PM

I think the players that were here took it is a slap. I think most of them saw no need for Rios and his bad contract and it's messed up the chemistry.

Is it wrong? Sure. However, they have tanked since he got here.

I think the players that were here took it is a slap. I think most of them saw no need for Rios and his bad contract and it's messed up the chemistry.

There, I fixed it for you.

DrCrawdad

08-31-2009, 11:10 PM

Was this the definition of mailing it in?

Sad and embarrassing.

SoxGirl4Life

08-31-2009, 11:10 PM

Now I'm curious-what was the original thread title?

As for the game? Glad we didn't get shut out. This year is over. I just hope the Tigers hold on and keep the Twins out of this.

kitekrazy

08-31-2009, 11:11 PM

What chemistry ? The chemistry that had the sox struggling to find .500 all year ?

The chemistry they could use now is what many ballplayers had since this century-steroids.

veeter

08-31-2009, 11:12 PM

Now I'm curious-what was the original thread title?

As for the game? Glad we didn't get shut out. This year is over. I just hope the Tigers hold on and keep the Twins out of this.Even after all of Hawk's gushing, he has to realize the Twins are one game over .500. They wouldn't do much if they got in, IMO.

tstrike2000

08-31-2009, 11:13 PM

Great point. If Jose makes that play, this whole trip could have been different, and if you think otherwise, you don't understand momentum in baseball.

Losing 2 of 3 to Baltimore really opened the floodgates to this screwfest that completely spiraled out of control.

Patrick134

08-31-2009, 11:13 PM

Even after all of Hawk's gushing, he has to realize the Twins are one game over .500. They wouldn't do much if they got in, IMO.

No team from the AL central that gets in is gonna make much noise.

kitekrazy

08-31-2009, 11:13 PM

I just want to win some games. A four or five-game winning streak would really lift my spirits. I just need for this team to play some good baseball for a change. That is all.

That's only going to happen on a Playstation or XBox.

Brian26

08-31-2009, 11:14 PM

Now I'm curious-what was the original thread title?

"Postgame 8/31: Rios awesome again"

tstrike2000

08-31-2009, 11:14 PM

Even after all of Hawk's gushing, he has to realize the Twins are one game over .500. They wouldn't do much if they got in, IMO.

Wouldn't surprise me if Hawk and Ron Gardenhose go on family vacations together in the offseason.

ChiSoxGirl

08-31-2009, 11:14 PM

Losing 2 of 3 to Baltimore really opened the floodgates to this screwfest that completely spiraled out of control.

Very true. And what a great name for the debacle we've been witnessing over the last couple weeks!

ChiSoxGirl

08-31-2009, 11:16 PM

Hawk blowing up the Metrodome, highlight of the game.

What is this?! Help a girl who doesn't have cable out, please.

Patrick134

08-31-2009, 11:16 PM

Losing 2 of 3 to Baltimore really opened the floodgates to this screwfest that completely spiraled out of control.

If you look at the central, the top 3 teams pretty much have the same horrible road record. If the sox had taken care of business at home better, they'd be right in the mix.

#1swisher

08-31-2009, 11:17 PM

Remember when we were upset over the White Sox inability to sweep. :gulp:

BoysMom3

08-31-2009, 11:18 PM

Hawk blowing up the Metrodome, highlight of the game.

Loved that too. Other reasons that made me laugh because I promised myself I would no longer spend more than 20 minutes being mad once a game is over. And I was mad!

So here they are: reading Ozzie's lips after that horrendous called strike on A.J. Anybody with eyes knew what he said. Cracked me up.My husband talking about the pitcher not being very good, and I, thinking back to what always gets said here, pipe in with - yeah, figures, he'll be the Ty Cobb against us today. LOLOL! And when I told two cute, little, all-American looking kids with Twins jerseys on to sit down, brats. (or told my t.v., whatever)

kitekrazy

08-31-2009, 11:18 PM

No team from the AL central that gets in is gonna make much noise.

That's why it doesn't bother me if the Sox don't win the division. This is not anything close to a WS team. Winning divisions are for Cub fans. Winning World Series are for Sox fans.

SoxGirl4Life

08-31-2009, 11:19 PM

Are you guys calling the Ranger complaining about Rios? Geeeeeeezus.

Lip Man 1

08-31-2009, 11:19 PM

I wonder what the record is for the franchise's all time worst road trips?

Seems the Sox media department may want to hop to it, in another day or so they'll be glad they did!

This team has completely quit on the season. No wonder Kenny sent out that memo today.

Lip

Athrun

08-31-2009, 11:21 PM

Jermaine Dye is actually hitting better since Rios joined the team. What a stupid scapegoat you are picking.

Or you are mad our GM got a centerfielder for the next few years?
He's hitting .200 since August 10th.

Patrick134

08-31-2009, 11:22 PM

I wonder what the record is for the franchise's all time worst road trips?

Seems the Sox media department may want to hop to it, in another day or so they'll be glad they did!

This team has completely quit on the season. No wonder Kenny sent out that memo today.

Lip

The team hasn't quit on anything. Don't give them that much credit. They're not talented enough to decide when to win or lose. Saying they "quit" implies they're better than they actually are.

Frankfan4life

08-31-2009, 11:22 PM

That's only going to happen on a Playstation or XBox.Ouch! I know it's crazy but I still have hope that it will happen.

Jerko

08-31-2009, 11:23 PM

All I can do is laugh now. So predictable. They DID score and not give up a run the next half-inning, so that's an improvement. Taking Thornton out after 2 K's was another guffaw inducing event. Better than some sitcoms. And I said I wouldnt get in this thread tonight yet here I am. glutton for punishment i guess.

kitekrazy

08-31-2009, 11:23 PM

Even after all of Hawk's gushing, he has to realize the Twins are one game over .500. They wouldn't do much if they got in, IMO.

For what little talent they have they always seem to be in the hunt. I guess happens when you have guys who know how to play the game.

slavko

08-31-2009, 11:24 PM

Rios will come around. Next year he will rebound at the plate. The fact that Ozzie wont just leave him at CF and leave him in the lineup everyday is having an adverse effect on him

Where have I heard this before? Hmmmmmmmmm...

PaleHoser

08-31-2009, 11:24 PM

Back to the game. That bomb Mauer hit was off a pretty good pitch IMO. Small wonder the kid is hitting .370.

Any chance we can offer him 50% ownership in the Sox when he's a free agent after next season? I can only wish...

Patrick134

08-31-2009, 11:25 PM

Where have I heard this before? Hmmmmmmmmm...

Don't even joke about that. The guy you're referring to couldn't even hit the way Rios has in the last 2 weeks ever.

kitekrazy

08-31-2009, 11:25 PM

I thought we would see a Jake Peavy appearance before a Bobby Jenks appearance.

Blueprint1

08-31-2009, 11:26 PM

How bad will we be next year. I can't imagine how bad the hitting is going to be.

Patrick134

08-31-2009, 11:26 PM

He's hitting .200 since August 10th.

He's hitting .180 after the all star break, so the .200 IS better. Also 36 extra base hits pre-break, 7 post.

JB98

08-31-2009, 11:27 PM

Dye has only six extra-base hits since the All-Star break. He is one of the main culprits in this nosedive.

Brian26

08-31-2009, 11:28 PM

How bad will we be next year. I can't imagine how bad the hitting is going to be.

Too early to whine about next year. This team could win 100 games; they could win 66. Too early to even contemplate that.

Brian26

08-31-2009, 11:28 PM

Dye has only six extra-base hits since the All-Star break. He is one of the main culprits in this nosedive.

A half-season slump that may rival Konerko's 1st half of '03.

Patrick134

08-31-2009, 11:28 PM

Too early to whine about next year. This team could win 100 games; they could win 66. Too early to even contemplate that.

True, but Linebrink should be banned from pitching in Wrigley.

BadBobbyJenks

08-31-2009, 11:30 PM

Dye has only six extra-base hits since the All-Star break. He is one of the main culprits in this nosedive.

Is there anything more inspiring than a Jermaine Dye at bat right now?

Vienna

08-31-2009, 11:30 PM

Back to the game. That bomb Mauer hit was off a pretty good pitch IMO. Small wonder the kid is hitting .370.

I agree -- he brought his hands and arms in and tuned it. Bring him to the South Side and see how long it would take for Walker to grind that out of him.

slavko

08-31-2009, 11:31 PM

Don't even joke about that. The guy you're referring to couldn't even hit the way Rios has in the last 2 weeks ever.

I wasn't referring to any guy. I was referring to the post.

Dibbs

08-31-2009, 11:32 PM

Our offense has been brutal. Is it OK to admit the team is out of it, or would that still give someone the title of dark cloud?

Brian26

08-31-2009, 11:32 PM

True, but Linebrink should be banned from pitching in Wrigley.

I'd like to see him banned from pitching on both sides of town.

kitekrazy

08-31-2009, 11:33 PM

Back to the game. That bomb Mauer hit was off a pretty good pitch IMO. Small wonder the kid is hitting .370.

Any chance we can offer him 50% ownership in the Sox when he's a free agent after next season? I can only wish...

I sure Twins fans believe that 90% of their great players are never resigned by the organization.

That was one of the reasons why Santana wanted out.

I've been pretty happy since Santana is out of the AL Central. I'm disappointed that he didn't become a White Sox.

Lip Man 1

08-31-2009, 11:41 PM

Rumors has been printed in S.I. that if he doesn't re-sign with Minnesota he's headed to the Yankees who'll dump Posada for him.

Lip

Brian26

08-31-2009, 11:43 PM

Rumors has been printed in S.I. that if he doesn't re-sign with Minnesota he's headed to the Yankees who'll dump Posada for him.

Lip

With the new stadium and Mauer being a hometown guy, I can't imagine the Twins would let him get away.

StillMissOzzie

08-31-2009, 11:47 PM

Now I'm curious-what was the original thread title?

As for the game? Glad we didn't get shut out. This year is over. I just hope the Tigers hold on and keep the Twins out of this.

I second this. The Twinkies also have more games remaining vs the Motor City Kitties than the Sox do, so it is entirely within reach for them.

Rumors has been printed in S.I. that if he doesn't re-sign with Minnesota he's headed to the Yankees who'll dump Posada for him.

Lip

The Yankees, offering a boatload of cash to nab another team's superstar? NAHHHHHH! Never happen! Truth, though, I don't think that Mauer would like the glare of the NY media, so maybe the $$$ won't work on him, as long as the Twinkies make him very well-paid.

ANd one more thing - I wish that Jenks would lose the bleached blond billy goat / King Tut beard he's been sporting. I hates it!!

SMO
:cool:

kitekrazy

08-31-2009, 11:51 PM

With the new stadium and Mauer being a hometown guy, I can't imagine the Twins would let him get away.

I can. They'll trade him before they even think of getting in a bidding war against the Yankees.

Foulke You

08-31-2009, 11:57 PM

I'll bet that's never happened in Dye's career. He's too good a hitter to be this bad for this long. He was the same age in the first half as he is now.
I have to wonder if the guy is playing through injuries in a contract year. The last time I saw Dye this bad at the plate was in 2007 when he was out there on his gimpy knee. He rebounded in a big way in 2008 and was equally good the first half of this year. I have nothing to base this on other than the eerily similar Dye peformance from 2007. Ozzie also made a cryptic comment in today's Sun Times saying (and I'm paraphrasing here) "there were more players than people knew" in Hermie's training room after ball games. You have to wonder if Dye is one of them.

kitekrazy

08-31-2009, 11:58 PM

I don't think that Mauer would like the glare of the NY media, so maybe the $$$ won't work on him, as long as the Twinkies make him very well-paid.

That sounds like a Twins fan's wishful thinking. Human nature alone says go for the most money. NY Media vs. Nostalgia of the Yankee Pinstripes, the latter often wins. He's the top dog on the Twins but the Yankees are loaded with other distractions like A-Rod.

SoxGirl4Life

09-01-2009, 12:03 AM

Here's some perspective:

The Peavy trade was one month ago today. My, how things change.

ndgt10

09-01-2009, 12:04 AM

I can't believe Rios got this ridiculous contract. The guy is barely even better than BA.

Dan H

09-01-2009, 12:07 AM

Aren't we glad that the Cubs game coming up is meaningful for both teams?

JB98

09-01-2009, 12:09 AM

Here's some perspective:

The Peavy trade was one month ago today. My, how things change.

I look on the bright side: No need to even consider paying that playoff ticket invoice by Wednesday.

hi im skot

09-01-2009, 12:35 AM

I can't believe Rios got this ridiculous contract. The guy is barely even better than BA.

:troll:

CWSpalehoseCWS

09-01-2009, 12:39 AM

Only 2 more games at the Metrodome.

Yep, two more losses too.

hawkjt

09-01-2009, 01:11 AM

Well, with Thome and Jose gone, we know a couple things now...We will have a new DH tomorrow...maybe Flowers? If I was Ozzie, I would play Flowers,Getz,Kotsay,Gordo,Pods,Rios Carlos,AJ and Rios tomorrow nite.
They cannot do worse than the vets.
At least Peavy's elbow is ok,some consolation. Like to see him come back for a few starts just to see what he has. Shock the world,Sox...the awful august is over, and Sweet September is here....rip off a winning streak to keep us interested...pretty please?

Tragg

09-01-2009, 01:17 AM

Yep, two more losses too.

How about some pride and win these last 2? Or 1?

And just on a sidenote, I don't want the Twins winning this ****ing division, so let's not totally tank to them.

Rohan

09-01-2009, 01:27 AM

How about some pride and win these last 2? Or 1?

And just on a sidenote, I don't want the Twins winning this ****ing division, so let's not totally tank to them.

For real... Let's make the twins hurt. I'd rather see the Tigers win it.

Nellie_Fox

09-01-2009, 01:33 AM

For real... Let's make the twins hurt. I'd rather see the Tigers win it.I don't really care who wins it when it can't be the Sox.

Pear-Zin-Ski

09-01-2009, 03:20 AM

What, the Sox lost tonight?

Shorty1983

09-01-2009, 03:23 AM

Who wants churros?

SBSoxFan

09-01-2009, 06:31 AM

Have the Sox set a record this season for 2-out runs allowed? 4 out of 4 (last night) tonight. :whiner:

tstrike2000

09-01-2009, 09:20 AM

A half-season slump that may rival Konerko's 1st half of '03.

Or even 2nd half '02.

BoysMom3

09-01-2009, 09:30 AM

I realized this morning that my husband has really thrown in the towel. I was planning on letting our black, White Sox flag fly until the last Sox game. This morning it was gone, and the orange "I" was in its place. It's all good.

kaufsox

09-01-2009, 10:32 AM

I'm trying to remain postive, but it definitely smells like toast around here. All the best to Thome and Jose,

hawkjt

09-01-2009, 10:41 AM

Over or not, beat the g******* Twins tonite, tomorrow nite, and when they come to Soxpark late in the season.
Last thing I want is for the Twins to be deemed the ''Team of the Decade'' in the AL Central.
Do not let them add another division title to their list.

BoysMom3

09-01-2009, 11:34 AM

I'm trying to remain postive, but it definitely smells like toast around here. All the best to Thome and Jose,

That's exactly what I said this morning! My boys thought baseball season was over since their daddy replaced the Sox flag with the "I" flag. I said baseball's not over for the teams that make it to the playoffs. But the Sox are pretty much toast.

Over or not, beat the g******* Twins tonite, tomorrow nite, and when they come to Soxpark late in the season.
Last thing I want is for the Twins to be deemed the ''Team of the Decade'' in the AL Central.
Do not let them add another division title to their list.

Wish there was a "you like" button on here. Great reply!! Totally agree!!

Nellie_Fox

09-01-2009, 11:36 AM

So, instead of the Twins, who build from their own organization and play sound fundamental baseball, you'd rather have the Tigers, another team that has tried to buy a championship by going after big-dollar free agents? To each his own, I guess.

I'm probably biased by living in Minnesota and having so many friends here who are Twins fans.

kitekrazy

09-01-2009, 11:39 AM

So, instead of the Twins, who build from their own organization and play sound fundamental baseball, you'd rather have the Tigers, another team that has tried to buy a championship by going after big-dollar free agents? To each his own, I guess.

I'm probably biased by living in Minnesota and having so many friends here who are Twins fans.

It would be interesting to see how that organization would do in a salary capped league.

ohthosechisox

09-01-2009, 11:07 PM

"A Stone" is one of most beautiful songs I have ever heard. Dulled the pain of this game.

I enjoy that song too. You need to see them in concert the next time they're in town - they're one of the best bands I've seen live. Will Sheff is absolutely brilliant.

I've been turning to music a little too frequently now during Sox games. Putting the TV on mute and listening to my tunes instead.