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Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

Originally Posted by apdst

What if a gay soldier makes a pass at a straight soldier in the latrine? .

Ah, latrines -- so romantic.

So are we to assume here that a straight guy whips it out and is ready to do his thing when a gay guy is just so overcome by pure, animalian lust at the sight of the magestic appendage that he knocks him over the head, and has at it?

I think with a little , ummmmmm, flushing out of some of the plot details, you have the beginning of chapter three in your next literotica installment.

Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick

It's interesting that you aren't willing to be held to the same standards that you hold others to. How many gay men have you served with and how many have you had to ward off during shower time? I love how some insecure straight men assume that gay men are just automatically attracted to anything with a penis. I think far too many of these insecure males who worry about getting hit on by gay men flatter themselves far too much.

I don't know how many gay soldiers I served with. Never was a concern of mine. Oh, wait, you think I'm homophobic! Shoulda seen that coming. Since I don't agree that the abolition of DADT is the neatest thing since sliced bread, there MUST be something wrong with me. Right?

Originally Posted by Redress

As soon as you provide some backing for your claims, I will happily back up mine. Still waiting....

I already did. It's your turn.

these personal attacks are awesome! gotta love it.

khandahar Posted: What forms of sexual harassment are you worried about, as a result from gay soldiers serving openly?

I'm concerend about there being a break down in discipline. That will cause soldiers to lose their lives. I find it awfully easy for those who aren't currently on duty to not worry about that.

Read AR 600-20, Chapter 7, Pg. 65 and educate yourselves as to the broad definition of sexual harrassment in the military. Enjoy.

Originally Posted by Top Cat

At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

Here I go again....

I served openly gay in the military after DADT was made law (1993-1997). The mission was never compromised, and my comrades did not care about it. As a matter of fact, many of them went to gay bars with me.

If there is a combat situation and someone is concerned about what the person next to them is thinking about sexually, then it is that person who cannot focus on the mission and they do not belong in the military. That goes for heterosexuals and homosexuals.

The last thing on my mind when in a life or death situation is sex.

"Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15." -Ronald Reagan

Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

Originally Posted by Gardener

So are we to assume here that a straight guy whips it out and is ready to do his thing when a gay guy is just so overcome by pure, animalian lust at the sight of the magestic appendage that he knocks him over the head, and has at it?

You don't even get it.

nevermind.

Originally Posted by Top Cat

At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

Originally Posted by Alex

Here I go again....

I served openly gay in the military after DADT was made law (1993-1997). The mission was never compromised, and my comrades did not care about it. As a matter of fact, many of them went to gay bars with me.

What was your MOS and how much trigger time did you get in those four long years?

Originally Posted by Top Cat

At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

Originally Posted by apdst

I already did. It's your turn.

these personal attacks are awesome! gotta love it.

No you did not. You posted the military policy on sexual harassment(which does not mention anything remotely like opening doors for anyone), and a story of a gay soldier. No proof that there is any more problem with sexual harrassment due to DADT, nor evidence that gay soldiers openly serving would cause an increase in sexual harassment charges.

Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

Originally Posted by apdst

You don't even get it.

nevermind.

Well then teach me, sensei. When you mentioned the gay guy making a pass in a latrine, were you thinking something a little kinkier, perhaps? Is the choice of a latrine signifigant, not because of the exposed penis, but something else?

The choice of a latrine for your hypothetical fantasy here MUST have some signifigance, so perhaps if you said how it is signifigant I might better understand.

Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

Marking the 14th anniversary of legislation that allowed gay men and lesbians to serve in the military but only if they kept their orientation secret, 28 retired generals and admirals plan to release a letter on Friday urging Congress to repeal the law.

We respectfully urge Congress to repeal the ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy,” the letter says. “Those of us signing this letter have dedicated our lives to defending the rights of our citizens to believe whatever they wish.”

The retired officers offer data showing that 65,000 gay men and lesbians now serve in the American armed forces and that there are more than one million gay veterans.

Re: Gay West Point grad testifies before Army

Originally Posted by apdst

What was your MOS and how much trigger time did you get in those four long years?

I was a medic who was trained to be in combat, as all military medics are. During the training, I never heard my sexuality mentioned as an issue, not once. That should be the last thing on a person's mind in those situations.

"Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15." -Ronald Reagan