Comments on: Scientology is nuts and we should be able to say sohttp://www.samizdata.net/2008/05/scientology-is/
A blog for people with a critically rational individualist perspectiveTue, 31 Mar 2015 20:21:11 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1By: lewishttp://www.samizdata.net/2008/05/scientology-is/#comment-169167
Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:40:12 +0000http://192.168.200.139/?p=11522#comment-169167Why the f**k is everyone saying, “how could the brits let this happen?”
Scientology was invented by a f**king American retards!!! A science fiction writer ho most likely went insane and started believing his stories were real, and decided to make it a religion. Also, Scientology is a lot more prolific in America than in Britain, do a tiny bit of research before criticising people.
Anyway, Scientology is like Nazism. they spy on their critics and ex-members, and their chief auditor (auditing is checking someone’s spirit or something) is called the ‘inspector general’, WTF, it sounds like a Gestapo rank for god’s sake. The real problem is: What if a Scientologist takes power and does a whole fourth Reich thing. Then we’d be completely f**ked.
]]>By: nick g.http://www.samizdata.net/2008/05/scientology-is/#comment-169166
Tue, 27 May 2008 02:22:00 +0000http://192.168.200.139/?p=11522#comment-169166The Politically Correct observation would be that Scientology is reality-challenged. If you continue to attack majority-challenged groups like this, there will be consequences somewhere. Please wait until your latest Newspeak dictionaries have been issued and all will be double-plus-good!
]]>By: Paul Markshttp://www.samizdata.net/2008/05/scientology-is/#comment-169165
Mon, 26 May 2008 13:41:27 +0000http://192.168.200.139/?p=11522#comment-169165Former Belguim:

Of course many conservatives in Europe were fierce enemies of the National Socialists (for example supporters of the old Hapsburg monarchy in Austria and Hungary).

But I take your point about people being more concered with the Soviet Union – after all the Marxists had murdered TENS OF MILLIONS of people by 1939 whereas the National Socialists had “only” murdered tens of thousands of people.

There may even have been dark thoughts in the minds of some conservatives of making an alliance with the National Socialists against the Marxists – at least till the National Socialists and the Marxists joined up in alliance of their own in 1939 (and it was a very real alliance and not just in eastern Europe – for example the French Communists stabbed France in the back in 1940, something that it is not often talked about).

As for the modern left and Islam:

Yes in Europe right from the 1960’s some factions of leftists have been fairly open in seeing Muslims as a way of helping break down the traditional societies of Europe (including Belguim). And it is a demented tactic – for the reason you have pointed to.

The American left (such as the A.C.L.U.) seems to be headed down the same blind alley.

Of course many conservatives in Europe were fierce enemies of the National Socialists (for example supporters of the old Hapsburg monarchy in Austria and Hungary).

But I take your point about people being more concered with the Soviet Union – after all the Marxists had murdered TENS OF MILLIONS of people by 1939 whereas the National Socialists had “only” murdered tens of thousands of people.

There may even have been dark thoughts in the minds of some conservatives of making an alliance with the National Socialists against the Marxists – at least till the National Socialists and the Marxists joined up in alliance of their own in 1939 (and it was a very real alliance and not just in eastern Europe – for example the French Communists stabbed France in the back in 1940, something that it is not often talked about).

As for the modern left and Islam:

Yes in Europe right from the 1960’s some factions of leftists have been fairly open in seeing Muslims as a way of helping break down the traditional societies of Europe (including Belguim). And it is a demented tactic – for the reason you have pointed to.

The American left (such as the A.C.L.U.) seems to be headed down the same blind alley.

]]>By: Dale Amonhttp://www.samizdata.net/2008/05/scientology-is/#comment-169162
Fri, 23 May 2008 21:21:23 +0000http://192.168.200.139/?p=11522#comment-169162Just go here and scan for Scientology if you want to find out a lot about this bunch of dangerous lunatics:

]]>By: Former Belgianhttp://www.samizdata.net/2008/05/scientology-is/#comment-169161
Fri, 23 May 2008 21:09:46 +0000http://192.168.200.139/?p=11522#comment-169161Paul Marks: The behavior of the Anti-Christian Litigation Unit is known in my native Dutch as “trying to drive out the devil with Beelzebub” (i.e., enlisting a stronger bad guy in your struggle against a weaker one — Beelzebub being the ‘prince of devils’).

European paleoconservatives tried this in the 1930s — thinking that chap with the toothbrush moustache would help stop Stalinism (which really was diabolical), and therefore one should not be too hard on him. We have seen how well that worked

Nowadays you have looney-left liberals making an “objective alliance” against “christofascists” with the mother of all retrograde theological fanaticisms. Marx was right on one thing: history does repeat itself as farce.

(FWIW, Mormons have taken a page from the Scientologists and sue anyone who publishes their handbook of instructions intended for people in leadership position in the church. The irony being that the handbook is very boring.)

]]>By: bobhttp://www.samizdata.net/2008/05/scientology-is/#comment-169157
Fri, 23 May 2008 18:35:26 +0000http://192.168.200.139/?p=11522#comment-169157Now if we can only find the courage to rail against the real dangerous cults like Islam.
]]>By: Paul Markshttp://www.samizdata.net/2008/05/scientology-is/#comment-169156
Fri, 23 May 2008 18:22:02 +0000http://192.168.200.139/?p=11522#comment-169156There is not hidden secret as to why the modern state is quite happy with people mocking traditional Christianity but is unhappy with people mocking cults like Scientology.

There are two reasons:

First Scientologists are a minority group – although, I admit, not a popular one with the politically correct (although the antics of the Scientologists do serve the “useful purpose” of discrediting traditional religion)

Secondly any attack on traditional society (of which Christianity is a part) is a good thing as far as the power-that-be are concered.

Not a “conspiracy theory” – just observation.

For example, in the United States the ACLU would go into a rage if taxpayers money was used to finance a Chrisitan school – but they make no attacks on Muslim Charter Schools being financed by taxpayers money.

This is not because the ACLU activists believe in Muslim doctrines (any more than they believe in Scientology) – it because they see Islam as an ally in destroying traditional America.

Before anyone thinks the above is “paranoid” have a look at the people who founded the ACLU.

They were socialists – they pretended support for a United States Constitution (that it was pretence is clear from their letters) whilst wishing to destroy the principles on which it was based.

Traditional Christianity is only one target – but an important one.

So supporting attacks on Christianity, whilst denouncing attacks on Islam (and so on) is not a contradiction – not when understands where the leftists (in both the United States and Britain and the West in general) are about.