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A person's tendency to irrational hate is, I suspect, more or less inversely related to their power.

Those without money, social position, authority, good looks, or achievements of any significance, are, on this view, the most likely to engage in bullying, lynching, and cheering on brutal fascist leaders.Hence the lynch mobs of the US Deep South, where the white "trash" were inclined to take it out on niggers, the only people more powerless than themselves.

Hence, today, the demonization and casual slaughter of dusky Muslim "terrorists", which serves to keep the masses in line with the forces of imperialism.

From The Telegraph:According to neurologists the child with the shrunken brain was the victim of severe neglect and abuse.

The child on the left is more likely to develop the social ability to empathise with others.

The child with the shrunken brain will be more likely to become addicted to drugs and involved in violent crimes, much more likely to be unemployed and to be dependent on state benefits.

The child is also more likely to develop mental and other serious health problems.

Professor Allan Schore,says that if a baby is not treated properly in the first two years of life, the genes for several aspects of brain function, including intelligence, cannot function.

"The reactions we see shows that hatred for the 'other' is so strongly entrenched that not only are all gays hated but any hereosexual who dares have the nerve to stand up for them. "The parellel being the old cruel term 'nigger lover' here in the south.

"I suppose accepting that there are gays who are by their very nature good and loving is too terrifying for the closed brain to accept. "The global network of violent abusers must be some alien, bizzare species of human that is in no way related to the straight world. "Maybe that rigid false belief comforts some. "The scapegoats are always needed in society and its always to that society's great loss that they ruin such assets in the process. "Aang is still here. "He just understands the abuse issue and doesn't want it sidetracked into petty homophobia issues I bet."
(Aangirfan agrees. You see, we have some very wise people commenting on this blog.)

I think Aangirfan believes in a world where people accept each other as they are; no cheating, no lying, no judgement, no hate.

A world in which there is 'enough' for all: dignity, respect, compassion, care, understanding and forgiveness.

That is the world I believe in, as did Christ.

Something wrong with such a vision?

God bless Aangirfan xx

(I always love your comments - Aangirfan)

"Muriel Stuart Walker (K'tut Tantri) was born in Glasgow in 1898; her mother was from the Isle of Man and it is probable that she never knew her real father....

"She and her mother went to California in the years after the First World War, where Muriel Walker got work writing about Hollywood and the film industry, until one day in 1932, after seeing a film about Bali, she packed her paints and embarked on a new career and life in Indonesia...

"In her autobiography, Revolt In Paradise (1960), she suggests that she was imprisoned and tortured by the Japanese."

The specific one two punch it reminded me of was how the British crown
destroyed Ireland during the 'Potato famine'.

For the next 50 -100 years the
fractured confused 'dumb' survivors of the Irish holocaust were used as blunt
instruments against American indigenous people and at times against the blacks
of the USA.

Playing poor against dirt poor and vise versa is a dirty game,
and one that our rulers have perfected.Colors and religions mean nothing to
our rulers, but to the little people they matter, so they are used to divide us.

Wednesday, November 28, 2012

"Unless we all start to believe in conspiracy theories and that the officials are lying, that I am lying, that behind this there is some kind of secret state which is in league with some dark forces in the United States...

"There simply is no truth in the claims that the United Kingdom had been involved in rendition".

The first was that the UK had facilitated or been complicit in rendition.

The second was that Diego Garcia was being used for that purpose.

The third was that the UK's armed forces might also be involved in rendition. It isworth recalling the blanket denials with which those points were met.

Jack Straw.

The then UK Foreign Secretary, Mr. Jack Straw, replied:

"Unless we all start to believe in conspiracy theories and that the officials are lying, that I am lying, that behind this there is some kind of secret state which is in league with some dark forces in the United States...

"There simply is no truth in the claims that the United Kingdom had been involved in rendition".

So, Straw claimed that the only way it was possible that the UK was involved in rendering whomever the UK-lackey's masters in the US was if "the officials are lying, I [he, Jack Straw] am lying" and that there exists a "secret state... in league with some dark forces in the United States."

Within days of the 9/11 attacks on the US, the CIA told British intelligence officers of its plans to abduct ... suspects and fly them to secret prisons....

The meeting, at the British embassy in Washington, is disclosed in a forthcoming book by the Guardian journalist Ian Cobain...

The meeting signalled to British officials that the US was preparing to embark on a global kidnapping programme which became known as extraordinary rendition...

A few weeks later, in early October 2001, at a secret meeting at Nato headquarters in Brussels, US officials drew up a list of "necessary measures to increase security", Cobain discloses. They included flights to and from secret prisons in Asia, Africa, and throughout Europe.

"Quietly, Britain pledged logistics support for the rendition programme, which resulted in the CIA's Gulfstream V and other jets becoming frequent visitors to British airports en route to the agency's secret prisons," writes Cobain...

In secret memos, Labour ministers said in early 2002 that their "preferred option" was to render British nationals to Guantánamo Bay, Cobain records.

MI5 and MI6 officers carried out around 100 interrogations at the US prison on Cuba between 2002 and 2004.

Yet for years ministers emphatically denied any British involvement in America's rendition programme...

Cobain's book, Cruel Britannia, says the British military operated a "torture centre" throughout the 1940s "in complete secrecy, in a row of Victorian villas in one of the most exclusive neighbourhoods in London". They also ran an "interrogation centre" near Hanover in Germany. Evidence from newly released records shows that British involvement in abuse was common earlier – in the colonies, later in Northern Ireland, and much more recently in Iraq...

If you ask certain Evangelical Christians why they think that Israel should be expanded in size, they will reply 'because that is what the Bible says.'

But, are their assumptions about the Bible correct?

And, is it possible that the Palestinians have closer biological links to the tiny Kingdom of David than many Israelis?

Godel

Take the 9 11 story.

Many Americans believe that Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda carried out the 9 11 attacks.

Their 'proof' involves what the media tells them.

There is an assumption that the media does not lie about such an important issue.

Sometimes the media tells the truth; but then the newspaper gets taken over.

But, what if the 'proposition' or assumtion that the media would not lie turns out to be impossible to prove.

What if, as a result of Operation Mockingbird, much of the media is controlled by the CIA?

And, what if many of the 'alternative' blogs are now heavily influenced by the CIA?

Newsweek reported that five of the 9 11 'hijackers', or people with the same names as the 'hijackers', had been trained at US military bases.

Daniel Hopsicker reported that Atta and several other 'hijackers' learnt to fly at an airfield in Venice Florida, long used for CIA operations.

The BBC reported on the close business and personal relations between the bin Ladens and the Bush family.

But how do you 'prove' that Newsweek and Hopsicker and the BBC got it right?

Is this Rabi Burns?

Take the 1605 Gunpowder Conspiracy in the UK.

The government story is based on the confession of Guy Fawkes. But this confession was obtained under torture and is probably untrue.

A careful look at all the evidence suggests that the so called Gunpowder plot was an inside-job, although this cannot be proved 100%.

Take the media story that Obama is one of the good guys.

If you look at the list of Obama appointments, and see that most of the key appointments are either Zionists or Bilderbergers or both, this might suggest that Obama is a bad guy. But it is difficult to prove 100%.

Godel suggests that that there are some things that one just KNOWS are true, even if these things cannot be 'proved'.

One reason why the USA is in such deep trouble is because so many of the assumptions made by Americans are probably untrue.

Here is a list of assumptions that are most likely to be untrue:

1. The Pentagon would not carry out acts of terrorism involving the killing of Americans.

2. The CIA is not the brains behind terrorism in Europe, including the Bologna Bombing.

3. The CIA does not control the mainstream media.

4. Elections are not rigged.

5. Jewish terrorists did not steal the land of the Palestinians.

And Jewish oligarchs have not tried to loot the USA.

6. The Muslim Brotherhood and al Qaeda are not used by the CIA to do their dirty work, such as carrying out the Arab Spring.

7. The CIA did not put Saddam and the Ayatollahs into power.

8. The CIA did not bring down PanAm 103 over Lockerbie.

9. The CIA and its friends were not the people who carried out the London Tube bombings, the Bali Bombings, the Madrid Bombings and the Mumbai Attacks.

10. There is no alliance of Jewish fascists, Christian Fascists, Moslem fascists and other fascists who are attempting to keep some sort of feudal system in place worldwide.

Let us look at some of the 'WRONG' assumptions made by people who comment on this blog.

Godel suggests that that there are some things that one just KNOWS.

1. Unknown writes:

"I worked for Reagan's re-election in 1984..."Let's consider some traits of those on the Left - 'Eager to follow authority'..."

Unknown is wrong.

Surely it is the Right that is most eager to follow authority.

Hitler was supported by the military and by the rich oligarchs.

2. KJ psychologist writes:

"hitler cleaned up the country and put all the homosexuals in the work camps if you research figures there were almost no child sex attacks during this period"

Wrong!

Many children were abused by the Nazis, in mind-control experiments for example.

"People who are sexually attracted to children often make the best teachers and girl-guide leaders and often look after the waifs and strays that families have abandoned." [Carol says: that is just wrong]"

Carol is wrong.

My most inspiring teachers were all gay.

All the most popular the youth leaders in my city were pretty gay, and they did a splendid job.

(Remember that the vast majority of Gay people are married to people of the opposite sex and appear to be heterosexual)

I came across a lovable old English vicar who was living in India.

At a time of terrible famine there were many orphaned children who were starving to death.

Nobody was helping them.

The vicar set up a large orphanage and provided the children with good food and a good education.

I am still in contact with one of the children involved; he is now happily married and has a very well paid job.

He tells me that the orphans were very grateful for being brought into the well run children's home.

Unfortunately some Evangelical Christians decided they did not like the vicar because he was gay.

These Evangelical Christians conspired to have the orphanage closed down.

The girls of Falkland Road. Just some of the millions of young girls abused by heterosexual males.

Elsewhere in Asia, I came across an institution looking after handicapped children.

The lady in charge was a married, heterosexual, church-going Christian.

She made sure that the children were tied up, naked, in uncomfortable positions.

When I came across these kids, they were covered in cigarette burns.

They were also covered in excrement.

I contacted a certain Prime Minister, and the lady was moved to another post.

The best run and happiest orphanage I came across in that part of Asia was run by a kindly old gay man.

I could tell you scores of similar stories.

Carol writes:

"The following Disinfo/Troll....."

Carol is wrong.

The person concerned is not a disinfo/troll, but simply a well-educated, non-brainwashed individual who thinks for himself.

So many of the commentaters on this blog have no original thoughts - they simply parrot Henry Macow or similar people.

Yes, we need more heterosexuals, like Idi Amin, Attila the Hun, Heinrich Himmler, Charles Manson...Here is a wise comment, one that I can agree with:

It's been the story of my life that in choosing the middle way, ie. picking at fallacies in both sides of an argument, that I am seen as an extremist opposition to whosever argument it is that I am unpicking at the time.

Truth is, I am not in opposition.

Rather I am opposed to the concept of opposition, ie. that held by the person I'm talking to.

Can you dig it?

Thus, if I said that gay people were every bit as capable of opting for a counter-productive, reactionary, us-and-them mindset as everybody else would I be wrong?

Are gay people, unlike everybody else, beyond criticism? Is someone who discusses gay people as something other than heroes or victims a villain? What about someone who discusses the mindset?

In no way do these questions qualify as support for the persecution of gay people. To think so is to fall into the trap of us-and-them. I am not that.

Gays are my brothers and sisters. Their differences are nothing.

My point is - anyone who fixates on those differences, whether straight or gay, might want to wonder at themselves.

Paul writes:

dilambert@live.comFine, but save it for those who abused you. Don't stretch it out to make everybody else guilty for the offenses of some. I refuse to bear your anger over something that had nothing whatsoever to do with me. Anonymous left this comment on your post "WE NEED GAY
PEOPLE":

The title of this article represents part of the problem as
does some of the conflating content: However it is very good starting debate
point.

There will be a percentage of people in a population who are
homosexual, and its biological function is likely to be connected with
population control.

(The Bonobo chimps do their bisexual sex for fun and pleasure - Aangirfan)

It could be regarded as similar to checks in other species
which see bias towards one sex over the over depending on population densities
and environmental conditions: Certain aquatic species are well
studied.

In human society, homophobia is a product of a tribalist
instinct, the same instinct which leads to racism and other irrational
discrimination.

The modern labels for the effects cloud this in most peoples
minds: The key is the irrationality of the fear which drives the reaction in the
people.

Homosexuality has been exploited as a division tool by
propagandists, as has racial, class and other divisions for various ends.

Even
Prime Minister Cameron fell fowl of a rather nasty propaganda item which is
stuck in most peoples minds on live television - that being the 'link' between
homosexuality and predatory paedophilia. This type of propaganda once started is
very difficult to correct. This primarily originated in western
Europe.

One thing which is overlooked is how some of the major religions
such as Hinduism and Buddhism reflect on the issue of sexuality.

The Hindu Gods
and teachings reflect a very androgenous picture, Buddhism divorces the spirit
from the corporeal form making sexuality a non issue.

Pre-Christian
European religions and societies were similar.

This is not an attack on
Christianity, but that appears to be a key point where the promoted notion of
homosexuality being less than desirable started, and likely for strong
sociological reasons at the time.

In the UK, the laws passed banning
homosexuality during the reign of Victoria show an interesting mix of prejudices
which highlite clearly the irrational aspect.

For men this was made illegal, but
women not - mainly on the incorrect assumption at the time that females did not
engage in homosexual activity.

The current attempt to stamp homophobia
out of society is a wrong approach as it serves only to promote the division
which reinforces the root cause driver.

The notion of 'needing more gays' is
similarly flawed as gender orientation is not something which can be switched on
and off, and the desire to nurture or create life in ones image is hardwired
into all.

The desire for gay couples to adopt and have surrogate
children is evidence of this.

As a means of population control,
homosexuality is not a real solution with today's technology available.

For a more natural and equal society though, irrational discrimination
of homosexuals is not desirable.

A person's tendency to irrational hate is, I suspect, more or less inversely related to their power.

Those without money, social position, authority, good looks, or achievements of any significance, are, on this view, the most likely to engage in bullying, lynching, and cheering on brutal fascist leaders.
Hence the lynch mobs of the US Deep South, where the white "trash" were inclined to take it out on niggers, the only people more powerless than themselves.

Hence, today, the demonization and casual slaughter of dusky Muslim "terrorists", which serves to keep the masses in line with the forces of imperialism.

Anonymous writes:

"The reactions we see shows that hatred
for the 'other' is so strongly entrenched that not only are all gays hated but
any hereosexual who dares have the nerve to stand up for them. "The parellel
being the old cruel term "nigger lover" here in the south.

"I suppose
accepting that there are gays who are by their very nature good and loving is
too terrifying for the closed brain to accept. "The global network of violent
abusers must be some alien, bizzare species of human that is in no way related
to the straight world. "Maybe that rigid false belief comforts some. "The
scapegoats are always needed in society and its always to that society's great
loss that they ruin such assets in the process. "Aang is still here. "He just
understands the abuse issue and doesn't want it sidetracked into petty
homophobia issues I bet."

I am generally happy with the level of intelligence and compassion at this blog.

This comment thread is truly weird.

The convoluted logic and mental gymnastics people are using to justify their homophobia is laughable, and a bit sad.

The child abuse topic here has rightly focused on sympathy for the victims and on the big picture of how child abuse in many ways is a means to an end.... to blackmail individual politicians and control governments.

Wars, austerity programs, and a slow steady drift to fascism are all enabled by politicians totally in the control of evil shadowy figures.

Getting hung up on homosexuality and its role in all of this is a waste of time.

I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who runs this blog put up this 'we need gay people' post to remind his viewers that some of their homophobic rants are not accurate, kind or relevant.

The push back from some of you people on this shows that you have a lot to learn about life.

I guess it would make sense that the most extreme positions here, the Jesus nut who hates queers and the evolutionary zealot who uses his superior intellect to hate queers....are reflective of the views that our propaganda merchants want us to have.

The rest of us in the middle understand the big picture and are quite capable of seeing good (if it is there) in our fellow human beings.

I have had many great friends in my life, some lesbians, some gay guys, most straight people.

My gay friends would simply have hurt feelings and react with sadness reading some of the vile puke in the comments here.

John Trudell, a Native American activist explains in simple
terms the social engineering of white people to do the bidding of 'the powers
that be' in exterminating spiritual tribes globally for many centuries past.

It
takes five generations to completely conquer and change the beliefs and
priorities of a grouping of people, and white people were the first to have
their tribes decimated or destroyed.

TPTB use groupings of people to their end
and then discard or genocide them, and race, gender or sexual preference, or
nationality makes no difference.

Ignorance isn't owned by any one skin color or
nation.

Ignorance has been brought to all of us, on one level or another, by
those who, over the last 40+ years have systemically destroyed critical thinking
in education and anything amounting to real information (news) for understanding
the world in which we live and who is manipulating it.

As people we are pitted
and played against each other the live long day, told who is 'different' and who
is dangerous.

"You've got to be taught, before it's too late, to hate
all the folks your relatives hate, you've got to be carefully taught." - from
'South Pacific'

"There is much wrong in Egypt these days, but few things are as irritating and noxious as piles of rotting waste...

"The trash deluge is part of an array of social and economic setbacks facing this nation since last year's overthrow of Hosni Mubarak. Power outages, crime and fears that subsidies may be cut on bread and propane have unnerved the poor and middle class."

Lynching of an innocent black kid in the USA. Outside a courthouse in Omaha, Will Brown, after being killed, mutilated and burned. Brown was innocent of the crime of which he had been accused. Cached

In the UK, "Poor white children have fallen behind by the time they reach the age of seven...

"In Hull, the worst-performing local authority area, a child eligible for free school meals, a widely used indicator of poverty, has a more than two-thirds chance of finishing in the bottom fifth of national exam results at the age of 16."

"There is reason to believe that strict right-wing ideology might appeal to those who have trouble grasping the complexity of the world."

According to Hodson: "Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order," something which appeals to people with low intelligence. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice."

In a study in the United States, Hodson and Busseri compared 254 people with the same amount of education but different levels of ability in abstract reasoning.

They found that people who were poorer at abstract reasoning were more likely to exhibit prejudice against gays.

Brian Nosek, a social and cognitive psychologist at the University of Virginia, says: "I think that lower cognitive capacity can lead to multiple simple ways to represent the world, and one of those can be embodied in a right-wing ideology..."

"There may be cognitive limits in the ability to take the perspective of others, particularly foreigners," Hodson says.

"Much of the present research literature suggests that our prejudices are primarily emotional in origin rather than cognitive."

"We have obtained an exclusive photograph of a suspected Israeli intelligence operative laughing it up with an Indonesian police officer on October 13, 2002, the morning after the deadly bombings of the night club district of Kuta in Bali at 11:05 pm on October 12...

"The attack spurred Australian Prime Minister John Howard into joining the U.S.-British war in Afghanistan and, later, in Iraq."

On March 27, 2007, Wayne Madsen Report reported on the subject of the FBI's interest in Jakarta-based correspondents:

"Our Indonesian and American sources report that there was a significant U.S. and Israeli military-intelligence connection to the October 12, 2002 bombings of the Sari Club in Bali, Indonesia.

"A DeHavilland Dash-7 aircraft registered in Queensland, Australia, landed at Denpasar Airport in Bali only hours before a massive explosion ripped through the Sari Club, killing over 200 people, many of them vaporized.

"Our sources claim that an Israeli military team arrived at Denpasar Hospital after the explosion and claimed four bodies of white men in uniform and flew them out of Bali on the Dash 7.

"The plane took off an hour after the explosion.

"Our sources have revealed the plane was permitted to pass through Singapore for an unknown destination.

"After the bombing and the plane’s departure, the tower logs were altered at Denpasar Airport to indicate the Dash 7 had not landed there.

"However, in a major oversight, the apron logs were not tampered with.

"Our sources have revealed the Dash 7 was Israeli-owned.

Indonesia has a very liberal form of Islam, although the Saudis, Mossad and the CIA are trying to promote the Islamists in Indonesia.

"Several victims of the Sari Club bombing at Kuta Beach had flash burns on their bodies - something common with people exposed to a nuclear blast.

"Our sources also have revealed that a CIA contract agent - an Indonesian national - was at Kuta Beach the day before the terrorist bombing.

"He is also known to have been involved in other terrorist attacks on behalf of the CIA since 1998.

"Our sources also indicate that the then-U.S. ambassador to Indonesia, Ralph Boyce, who is now posted as ambassador to Thailand, was fully aware of U.S. intelligence pre-knowledge of the terrorist bombing in Bali.

Boyce told the American managing editor of the Jakarta Post that it would be unhelpful if the paper pursued the U.S. angle in the Bali bombing."

Aditjondro wrote, in October 2002, that Indonesia's military and business elites have very close ties to Israel and Mossad.

According to Aditjondro:

Indonesia, under Suharto, allowed Mossad to operate in Jakarta.

The Indonesian military have cooperated with Mossad.

This was confirmed by former security chief General Soemitro in his biography.

The Indonesian army special force Kopassus has been equipped with Israeli Uzi guns.

These Uzi machine guns were reportedly used in the massacre of hundreds of Muslim activists in Tanjung Priok, Jakarta, on September 12, 1984, as well as in the assassination of the West Papuan artist and freedom fighter, Arnold Ap, on April 26, 1984

(Ramos-Horta, 1987: 148; Djopari, 1993: 129; Ramage, 1995: 37).

Kopassus special forces regiment - reportedly used by Israel and the Pentagon to carry out acts of terrorism.

Kopassus admires the Israeli army.

A Kopassus publication, on view to the media in 2000, includes a chapter praising the typical Israeli Army commander.

The Indonesian air force has used US Skyhawk fighters, bought from Israel.