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other one

Posted 16 August 2014 - 11:41 AM

well, I don't think I want to go back to a pre industrial world..... outdoor toilets, no air conditioners, walking or horses for transportation..... no computer.... thus no worthy....

The industrial revolution made life on this planet easier and much more pleasant for most people.... like any tool, it's taken us a long time to develop it, and in many cases pervert it into something bad. But it is for the most part simply a set of tools. Mankind pretty much perverts everything in time, so it shouldn't be a surprise.

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 11:55 AM

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Nobody has a clue huh?

First off, I whole-heartedly, believe in Capitalism and the Entrepreneural spirit.

The Industrial Revolution led to mass production and factories. Then the first Labor unions began to pop up,which, in the beginning had a just cause, unions began to stand up for workers rights. Shorter shifts, better wage, benefits, all very humble grievances, which made for a better worker because they brought home more and they had somebody looking out for them. Alas, because of money and power the union got corrupted and began lobbing politians corrupting them by bribe (kickback). Union bosses back candidate who would in turn vote for their favorite agendas, so became policy changers. This hurt America.

GoldenEagle

Posted 16 August 2014 - 12:06 PM

well, I don't think I want to go back to a pre industrial world..... outdoor toilets, no air conditioners, walking or horses for transportation..... no computer.... thus no worthy....

The industrial revolution made life on this planet easier and much more pleasant for most people.... like any tool, it's taken us a long time to develop it, and in many cases pervert it into something bad. But it is for the most part simply a set of tools. Mankind pretty much perverts everything in time, so it shouldn't be a surprise.

I agree. For perspective many people in the world today have higher standards of living (plumbing, electricity, access to food, social mobility, etc.), receive better education, than 99% of the world 150 years ago and prior.

Yes technology is a tool like anything else that is inanimate it is amoral.

Posted 16 August 2014 - 01:00 PM

Fez

Posted 16 August 2014 - 02:11 PM

Fez

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Nobody has a clue huh?

First off, I whole-heartedly, believe in Capitalism and the Entrepreneural spirit.

The Industrial Revolution led to mass production and factories. Then the first Labor unions began to pop up,which, in the beginning had a just cause, unions began to stand up for workers rights. Shorter shifts, better wage, benefits, all very humble grievances, which made for a better worker because they brought home more and they had somebody looking out for them. Alas, because of money and power the union got corrupted and began lobbing politians corrupting them by bribe (kickback). Union bosses back candidate who would in turn vote for their favorite agendas, so became policy changers. This hurt America.

That all you got?

What you mention is a smidgen, a jot, an iota of what the steam age actually accomplished

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 03:32 PM

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Nobody has a clue huh?
First off, I whole-heartedly, believe in Capitalism and the Entrepreneural spirit.
The Industrial Revolution led to mass production and factories. Then the first Labor unions began to pop up,which, in the beginning had a just cause, unions began to stand up for workers rights. Shorter shifts, better wage, benefits, all very humble grievances, which made for a better worker because they brought home more and they had somebody looking out for them. Alas, because of money and power the union got corrupted and began lobbing politians corrupting them by bribe (kickback). Union bosses back candidate who would in turn vote for their favorite agendas, so became policy changers. This hurt America.

That all you got?

What you mention is a smidgen, a jot, an iota of what the steam age actually accomplished

OneLight

Posted 16 August 2014 - 03:42 PM

LoL! Because nobody gave you any specific answer, you think we don't have a clue? Pretty daring statement.

With all due respect, season it as you like it, God is witness, my heart does not convict me.

Just going by your own words, my friend. As I stated earlier, what this has done to this world is very vast, and I asked you to narrow down what you wanted to discuss. The pause was waiting for your response. If you take it at its full value, one could write a book on how the industrial revolution has changed the world.

gamnot

Posted 16 August 2014 - 03:58 PM

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The industrial revolution along with the scientific revolution has made life more comfortable but more dangerous for most people.
At the heart of the industrial revolution is the drive for increasing efficacy The modern drive for ever increasing efficiency usually has a Faustian shadow effect; Wal-mart buying its products from foreign countries like China in order to reduce costs caused a problematic trade imbalance.

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 04:03 PM

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The industrial revolution along with the scientific revolution has made life more comfortable but more dangerous for most people.
At the heart of the industrial revolution is the drive for increasing efficacy The modern drive for ever increasing efficiency usually has a Faustian shadow effect; Wal-mart buying its products from foreign countries like China in order to reduce costs caused a problematic trade imbalance.

OneLight

Posted 16 August 2014 - 04:25 PM

The age of the Industrial Revolution was the infancy of the down fall of the Mom and Pop business' and the beginning of the power industries.

I clearly didn't think this thread out, I was too hasty, and I am out of my depth and over my head.

Not really. If you want to discuss how big business has overthrown the little people, that is one area we can discuss!

Where I grew up, there were many farms in the area. Fresh vegetables and milk were the norm. The milk man would come three times a week to pick up the empty bottles and leave fresh milk, fresh enough to have to skim the cream off the top. Fresh veggies would be picked up at the local stand. Everyone sold what they produced. The local meat market had fresh meat cut daily. Eggs where gathered that morning. We made our own ice cream and maple syrup. Even the furniture was carefully made by hand. I remember watching my grandfather work wood until it fit just right.

Now, everything is processed and contains preservatives so they can last longer on the store shelves. Furniture is no more than pressed sawdust, glued together, unless you happen to have a well paying job to buy real wood articles, but then again, most furniture you buy is massed produced. Meat is injected with dye to make it look better. Everything has a date stamped on it.

OneLight

Posted 16 August 2014 - 04:41 PM

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Posted 16 August 2014 - 04:47 PM

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I was heavily depend upon the contribution of others.
The age of the Industrial Revolution was the infancy of the down fall of the Mom and Pop business' and the beginning of the power industries.
I clearly didn't think this thread out, I was too hasty, and I am out of my depth and over my head.

I miss the old days, to be honest.

I feel your pain, I am pained for the old days as well. Good post.

I can't really bite the hand that fed me, Ethyl Corp and their technologies provided well for my dad's table, until EPA cut out lead in gasoline. Ethyl produce an anti-knock formula that the Feds didn't like. So, the revolution was in ways good.