I posted this previously a couple of months ago on another thread but it definitely still applies and I still have (remote) hope that someone in WG will see the light and give this an actual try. If it does not work it can always be removed but I think they would make a lot of their customers (and themselves) a lot happier.

I have been saying this over and over but hopefully with this thread the developers and management will see this.

Guys....please....let's be real. 1.9 version appealed to a very loyal but insufficient fan base.

2.0 in realistic terms can attract new players but will not be able to retain them. It is a rinky-dink arcade joke.

Please.....there is a simple solution to all of the issues that with a little thought and effort is realistically not that difficult to implement.

MAKE THIS A TWO-MODE GAME!!!

I mean really.....any modern pc for the last seven years can handle the load. If it cannot (for some absurd reason), no big deal, MAKE IT A SELECTABLE DOWNLOAD JUST LIKE SD OR HD!!.

With 2.0 to attract new players, 1.9 (full, original, and complete) to bring back all of the OP's and to give the new 2.0 players something to advance to (Thus RETAINING THEM!!!!) instead of letting them just bolt for the next new 'trendy' whatever game this game would have a very realistic shot at true viable success.

Although not substantial enough on their own...you have THOUSANDS of former players with simply VAST levels of dedicated experience, tactics, developed Clans and infrastructure, techniques, relationships, fantastic user community, etc...etc....etc....that will not eat this [edited]load. We all took everything else that worked and failed. But in case you have not noticed.....NOT....THIS.....TIME!

Combine this with the new players you can and have attracted with 2.0 you have a honest, for-real-chance at establishing a viable, sustainable player base. And I mean that from a business standpoint.

The other side of the business standpoint is you give your customers what they want....and what YOU ALL PROMISED. And that is CHOICES!.

The OP's stuck by you for YEARS!......I...Mean....For....Actual.....YEARS!

Every update...good or bad (I will leave you to self examine your true realistic results of all of those updates on an individual basis).

But with this one.....Not this time buddy. Virtually all of us left.

No one is flying.

You can hide the stats but I can see who is and is not flying in my Clan. Same for all of the other OP Clans.

I know because there is no movement AT ALL of the original clan rankings. There has not been for MONTHS!

I used to play this game 2-4 hours a night. More on the weekends.

Now you are lucky if I put in one or two battles ever couple of weeks.

That also has not changed in 3 or 4 months (now about 7 months) and is not going to.

I don't want another game that is a stupid arcade wiz-bang-shoot-em-up for 7 year olds.

Simply put....1.9 pushed off new users because they would get seal-clubbed and raped.

Establish a base level of xxx number of battles in 2.0 with new users so they can build experience, aircraft, options, etc.... before they can advance to the 1.9 level.

Make 1.9 a premium or pay level if need be.

I have proposed this on multiple threads. Do you read what is being said out there!!!???

I would be happy to discuss this at a more intricate level with any developer or management so this could become a workable, viable, real option.

If you did that then this game has a real shot of becoming enjoyable and workable for all for both an entertainment and business standpoint (thousands of free customers just waiting for a reason to come back. Business, Marketing 101 people!!???)

I miss flying with my clan mates and respected opponents.

Please be reasonable and open to some new ideas. We all want to come back. But virtually no one is going to eat the 2.0 update. We wont be back this time if it stays that way.

Just give us a real reason to do so. For all of us that stuck by you for so very, very long I do not think it is asking too much.

Keep 2.0 live and running. Just give all of the OP's back 1.9 as it was as another option/mode since this would be what we, the customers, are asking for and the choices you promised us.

My last real flight was the night of the 2.0 update in my Ta 152. I made it a point to remember it.

I would suggest instead of a two game mode, a fourth entity on the game launcher. Perhaps WOWP classic. The population is already split between those playing 2.0 and the hundreds of veterans who are not playing or play very little. Personally I miss the proper flight mechanics, the feel of flying, the rev of the engine sounds, the old maps, the pure aspect of dog fighting.

I would suggest instead of a two game mode, a fourth entity on the game launcher. Perhaps WOWP classic. The population is already split between those playing 2.0 and the hundreds of veterans who are not playing or play very little. Personally I miss the proper flight mechanics, the feel of flying, the rev of the engine sounds, the old maps, the pure aspect of dog fighting.

i feel you.

Miss all the points you list there.
And add to that the situational awareness, workin gamepad controls, 1000 less bugs

I would suggest instead of a two game mode, a fourth entity on the game launcher. Perhaps WOWP classic. The population is already split between those playing 2.0 and the hundreds of veterans who are not playing or play very little. Personally I miss the proper flight mechanics, the feel of flying, the rev of the engine sounds, the old maps, the pure aspect of dog fighting.

Exactly. I found this game while looking for a tank game and next thing you know i had over 30,000 plane battles and only 1 tank battle.

I also have a love of flying and 3 pilots in my family and said from the beginning that they should advertise it in AOPA or American owners and pilots associations magazine called AOPE pilot which has a huge circulation.This magazine can be found in airports all over north America but they never focused on anyone for advertising except gamers and hoped the tankers would bring the playerbase.

Exactly. I found this game while looking for a tank game and next thing you know i had over 30,000 plane battles and only 1 tank battle.

I also have a love of flying and 3 pilots in my family and said from the beginning that they should advertise it in AOPA or American owners and pilots associations magazine called AOPE pilot which has a huge circulation.This magazine can be found in airports all over north America but they never focused on anyone for advertising except gamers and hoped the tankers would bring the playerbase.

absolutely correct,

that would be what a quality marketing and advertising agency would be expected to do...

to expand into a new market you can't just keep working YouTube trying to flip hardcore gamers...

this game will likely only appeal to a small percentage of that group,

AOPA seems like a great and cost effective target group for this game

oh well... maybe we'll reboot again with an even better and more successful plan

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if the pilot's good, see, I mean, if he's really..sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low [he spreads his arms like wings and laughs],

you oughtta see it sometime, it's a sight. A big plane like a '52. VRROOM! There's jet exhaust, fryin' chickens in the barnyard.

Maybe Wargaming won't do strategic WoP advertising because they can only handle a limited number of pi**ed off gamers at a time...

I'm not sure what the source was, but I basically heard the same thing. They wont advertise till all the major bugs are worked out. Could you imagine having 10,000 online players right now? All the crashes and complaining. Advertising at this point would do more harm than good imo. Although, if we had an influx of players, theoretically WG would have an influx of $ and they could afford to throw more developers towards fixing bugs and end-game content. So it could go both ways.

Historically though, I don't think it has worked out well for any company in terms of public perception to have a bunch of hype and then a game flop due to bugs.