Since ive started to play tournaments in CC ive noticed 2 players that really impressed me.As far as i know they were allways at high rank level(brig or colonel) , they just played any game, any tournament or any player.Allways with great performances

I think everyone has a point here. If you look at the top rankers, MC05025 would be someone I would first think of. On another hand, this is about all levels of the game. The more selective you are, the least likely you are to lose points each time. But this is more about skills on any game type than game selection IMO, and mc05 hasn't played enough games and on a large diversity enough of maps. I couldn't answer the question, there's a lot of people out there that could be given that title for different reasons.But yeah, some players play any game/tourney and manage to keep a high rank which involves a very high win rate as armandolas said and can be considered too.It's also true that players like MC05 play mosty on the most strategic maps, and many maps are not very relevant in terms of mastery.

I feel the same....it didn't take any time at all for him to learn every strategy. And he is better too

I think bo0060 has the most experience all around, but after like 10,000 games it all blurs together.

there aren't many players who play freestyle, 1 v 1, team, and standard consistently at a high level. Usually people lean towards 1 or 2 of them.

also....armandolas colonel (even Brig) aren't hard to maintain at all. I would hover around them easily playing everything under the sun. As long as I was still playing freestyle to back up my point loss from high risk games vs lower ranks. And usually those who are these ranks use a backup specialty. Team games, standard escalating, etc..

But when you are the best at every setting. You will reach a rank like mc05025.

I feel the same....it didn't take any time at all for him to learn every strategy. And he is better too

I think bo0060 has the most experience all around, but after like 10,000 games it all blurs together.

there aren't many players who play freestyle, 1 v 1, team, and standard consistently at a high level. Usually people lean towards 1 or 2 of them.

also....armandolas colonel (even Brig) aren't hard to maintain at all. I would hover around them easily playing everything under the sun. As long as I was still playing freestyle to back up my point loss from high risk games vs lower ranks. And usually those who are these ranks use a backup specialty. Team games, standard escalating, etc..

But when you are the best at every setting. You will reach a rank like mc05025.

Like you said, freestyle is a backup plan for point recovering, for many players.You included.Nothing bad about it.If peopkle dont farm onlyI never played against you or mc but if you guys hold a star then you must have merit in that.Nothing to say about thatAnyway i just pointed 2 players that i played before and impressed me.They play really well, thats why i remember. Also they play any random setting against any rank with no fears.You dont see that often.Thats what i meant and thats what ive seen

jsnyder748 wrote:also....armandolas colonel (even Brig) aren't hard to maintain at all. I would hover around them easily playing everything under the sun. As long as I was still playing freestyle to back up my point loss from high risk games vs lower ranks.

I'm sorry but this is bullshit. I've seen this brag before, not just by you but by demonfork and other freestylers, talking about how he could remain a colonel in his sleep, and I finally decided to have a look. A quick Map Rank on you shows that you have -13,125 points in sequential games. NEGATIVE THIRTEEN THOUSAND! WIthout your freestyle farming you would be obliterated off the scoreboard.

Even among your sequential games, less than one-third are tournament games, and more than half of those are team games where you bring along a lower rank to insulate against point loss. And you want to dismiss the achievements of someone like uckuki, whose games are 78% tournament games and less than 13% of those are team games? Someone like that, who is not afraid to plunge into 6-player sequential sunny Standard, Assassin, and Terminator against privates and sargeants, and still keeps a colonel's hat 90% of the time, deserves a lot of respect.

jsnyder748 wrote:also....armandolas colonel (even Brig) aren't hard to maintain at all. I would hover around them easily playing everything under the sun. As long as I was still playing freestyle to back up my point loss from high risk games vs lower ranks.

I'm sorry but this is bullshit. I've seen this brag before, not just by you but by demonfork and other freestylers, talking about how he could remain a colonel in his sleep, and I finally decided to have a look. A quick Map Rank on you shows that you have -13,125 points in sequential games. NEGATIVE THIRTEEN THOUSAND! WIthout your freestyle farming you would be obliterated off the scoreboard.

Even among your sequential games, less than one-third are tournament games, and more than half of those are team games where you bring along a lower rank to insulate against point loss. And you want to dismiss the achievements of someone like uckuki, whose games are 78% tournament games and less than 13% of those are team games? Someone like that, who is not afraid to plunge into 6-player sequential sunny Standard, Assassin, and Terminator against privates and sargeants, and still keeps a colonel's hat 90% of the time, deserves a lot of respect.

Oh god you read this all wrong. I have the upmost respect for the likes of uckucki. I will try to explain more when I am not on my phone.

I believe we were taught team games by the same person

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jsnyder748 wrote:also....armandolas colonel (even Brig) aren't hard to maintain at all. I would hover around them easily playing everything under the sun. As long as I was still playing freestyle to back up my point loss from high risk games vs lower ranks.

I'm sorry but this is bullshit. I've seen this brag before, not just by you but by demonfork and other freestylers, talking about how he could remain a colonel in his sleep, and I finally decided to have a look. A quick Map Rank on you shows that you have -13,125 points in sequential games. NEGATIVE THIRTEEN THOUSAND! WIthout your freestyle farming you would be obliterated off the scoreboard.

Even among your sequential games, less than one-third are tournament games, and more than half of those are team games where you bring along a lower rank to insulate against point loss. And you want to dismiss the achievements of someone like uckuki, whose games are 78% tournament games and less than 13% of those are team games? Someone like that, who is not afraid to plunge into 6-player sequential sunny Standard, Assassin, and Terminator against privates and sargeants, and still keeps a colonel's hat 90% of the time, deserves a lot of respect.

Too true..

For example, King_Herpes (who to be fair never claimed to be a great sequential player) was not that good at sequential games. I know this because I played him at standard, 8 man dubs, trips etc. He was good of course - he is a smart guy - but i have played many better sequential players.

I would estimate that he could maintain a colonel rank playing good opposition (as many sequential players do) but he wouldn't be 'doing it in his sleep'.

I see little evidence our freestyle general could do much sequentially..l checked him out quickly when conversing in another thread and thought his sequential game looked distinctly average.

1.) Playing any random games, freestyle, tournaments, team games, 8 person escalating, etc... I can hold a rank of major/colonel/brig depending on how lucky I am in a given week.

2.) Playing team games, tournaments, freestyle, and 8 player escalating I have been anywhere from colonel to a 4000 point general. I got my high score while playing 98 games with 50 awaiting.

3.) When I play freestyle, team games for medals, clan games and some random (Exactly what I am doing now) I am usually brig or general.

as for the comment about being an average team player.....I am minus so many points in sequential because there is always a learning curve. I started out a noob. I played so many random maps and people that when I found what I was good at I kept playing that way to keep learning. I still do this to learn maps. I use sequential games.

I am in a top 10 clan and can hold my own vs the best....Not much more to say than that about being a average team player.

1.) Playing any random games, freestyle, tournaments, team games, 8 person escalating, etc... I can hold a rank of major/colonel/brig depending on how lucky I am in a given week.

2.) Playing team games, tournaments, freestyle, and 8 player escalating I have been anywhere from colonel to a 4000 point general. I got my high score while playing 98 games with 50 awaiting.

3.) When I play freestyle, team games for medals, clan games and some random (Exactly what I am doing now) I am usually brig or general.

as for the comment about being an average team player.....I am minus so many points in sequential because there is always a learning curve. I started out a noob. I played so many random maps and people that when I found what I was good at I kept playing that way to keep learning. I still do this to learn maps. I use sequential games.

I am in a top 10 clan and can hold my own vs the best....Not much more to say than that about being a average team player.

Lets get this back on strongest overall player shall we...

It's still me:-playing 170 games and running 50 tournaments at the same time and still holding rank of colonel-won all kinds of tournaments vs any kind of players-was member of TPA allstars-only weakness is freestyle and speed, really not interested in those and still won couple of battle royals-one of few players that can really understand game play on pretty much any map-ok have one more weakness, I am really not a patient guy

benga wrote:It's still me:-playing 170 games and running 50 tournaments at the same time and still holding rank of colonel-won all kinds of tournaments vs any kind of players-was member of TPA allstars-only weakness is freestyle and speed, really not interested in those and still won couple of battle royals-one of few players that can really understand game play on pretty much any map-ok have one more weakness, I am really not a patient guy

1.) Playing any random games, freestyle, tournaments, team games, 8 person escalating, etc... I can hold a rank of major/colonel/brig depending on how lucky I am in a given week.

2.) Playing team games, tournaments, freestyle, and 8 player escalating I have been anywhere from colonel to a 4000 point general. I got my high score while playing 98 games with 50 awaiting.

3.) When I play freestyle, team games for medals, clan games and some random (Exactly what I am doing now) I am usually brig or general.

as for the comment about being an average team player.....I am minus so many points in sequential because there is always a learning curve. I started out a noob. I played so many random maps and people that when I found what I was good at I kept playing that way to keep learning. I still do this to learn maps. I use sequential games.

I am in a top 10 clan and can hold my own vs the best....Not much more to say than that about being a average team player.

Lets get this back on strongest overall player shall we...

It's still me:-playing 170 games and running 50 tournaments at the same time and still holding rank of colonel-won all kinds of tournaments vs any kind of players-was member of TPA allstars-only weakness is freestyle and speed, really not interested in those and still won couple of battle royals-one of few players that can really understand game play on pretty much any map-ok have one more weakness, I am really not a patient guy

wow 170 games ...my head hurted the one time i hit 70...but how come no one has mentioned you?