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Nice.
Now Moski, what is the final plan?
Will it be a water event, that is alpackas, canoes or will it be by foot.
If it's Mariefred as starting point we do have a local now.
I think you are the grand trip planer for this event

Nice.
Now Moski, what is the final plan?
Will it be a water event, that is alpackas, canoes or will it be by foot.
If it's Mariefred as starting point we do have a local now.
I think you are the grand trip planer for this event

I am thinking of this as a water event with Alpackas and Canoes,
but if people wants to join and just hike, it's fine by me.
Yeah, we might have a local ?
Do you want the job ?

So, i think this is it ?

Originally Posted by moski

So , between 22 July --> 25 -28 July ?

If the new list looks like this:

Sweden

Finland

Denmark

Usa

France

Latvia

Don't you guys miss Norway on that list ?

What do you say Frikk ?

Moski, who no longer feels the Secret Ninja Ski emptiness..............
B/C he got them now

I know a few places along Sörmlandsleden, which has a trail head in Mariefred, and even a good kanot route in the area. I am off of work from 20th of June until 20th of August, so all those dates work for me

I'm up for either kanot or hike, have access to a pair of Canadian kanots. We are two adults and two kids, 8 and 10 years old.

Mariefred is full of nice cultural things to see, such as an old castle from the late 1400s, "Gripsholms Slott" and a church from 1628. Marvikarna in Åkers Styckebruk is a beautiful kanot route, and it is relatively easy to transport the kanots by car to the beginning of the route from Mariefred. I know that KanotKungen is willing to help with such things, if we rent kanots from them.

that soundet greate, now ee should have a route set up both fore water and land with common hang spots if possible just to give al an option but I think most will take the water way. star and end in same spot would make it more easy for hours that rent a canoe (cheaper). I have never been there so I can't help.

The "offical" Starting point is in Stockholm on the 22 July !
(i'm sure we will have unofficial starters that will join us on other places )
We will be going by Steamship to Marifred the boats leaves at 10.00 from Klara mälarstrand beside Stadshusbron.

The steamship Mariefred is unique the world over. Nowhere else do we find a ship maintaining its original route for 100 years, still equipped with her original steam-engine and with very few changes on board.

One of the most scenic canoe trails in Södermanland begins at Lake Visnaren. Paddle water continues in the long, narrow Marviken lakes, where there is a motorboat ban. In connection with these lakes meander Sörmlandsleden. Canoe adventure continues in the lake Klämmingen, a long narrow lake in the beautiful varied countryside.

The canoe trail continues in Frösjön and then you are almost there in Gnesta. Here you can finish your paddle and row. take the commuter train to Södertälje - Stockholm. Have you ever considered yourself a longer trip, you continue your canoe trip through Sigtunaån to the lake herring, which at the southeastern end succeeded by Trosaån. The river that runs through Vagnhärad to Thong is the completion of your canoe adventure.

Along the trail there are fixed hearths, dry toilets and trash cans prepared.

It is an easy to paddle tour where you in the spring has a little waterfall in Sigtunaån and Trosaån. Contains 5 pieces facilitate land transport - which at 300 m

From Åkers Styckebruk we paddle for (2 days) to a town called Gnesta,
from here we take the train back to Stockholm.

Gnesta to Stockholm is 40min for 15 usd.

We can easily extend the paddling to more days/night.

Canoes/kayaks can be rented at the starting point here http://www.kanotkungen.se/.
Then we paddle to Gnesta and they pick them up there for a fee !
(That fee might come down if it's several canoes/kayaks)
(It maybe a good idea to book your boat in advance ?)

that soundet greate, now ee should have a route set up both fore water and land with common hang spots if possible just to give al an option but I think most will take the water way. star and end in same spot would make it more easy for hours that rent a canoe (cheaper). I have never been there so I can't help.

We can have a vote, but i think most boaters wants to go Gnesta
We just have to see how many hikers only we got in the end ?
I have not heard anyone, except J.Andersons so far ?
Dutch might be interested ?

Common hang spots all the way might be tricky ?
Most of the Alpacka/SKAHO hangs are planned from maps, so we dont need to have been there
But i have hiked in this area a couple of years ago, so this time i'm going to float Headwind verboten

Moski, who no longer feels the Secret Ninja Ski emptiness..............
B/C he got them now

There is a bus from Mariefred to Åkers Styckebruk that goes from town, or one could take the antique steam train (recommended!) to Läggesta and take the bus from there. I think there is a package price if you already took the S.S. Mariefred steam boat from Stockholm!

I examined the hiking possibilities if one was to have common stops, but the nicest places to camp are not exactly accessable, if one was to do a bit of bushwacking it would be possible, I don't know about the time it would take. The nicest features of the canoe trip is that the lakes are in between high ridges, which makes it complicated to hike alongside them.

How hard are you guys thinking of paddling? Åker to Gnesta in two days sounds like a hard pace. (27km). I am not an experienced paddler (yet, I got a few months to train), how many stops/overnights are reasonable? I'm more of a hanger than a paddler Would like to spend as much time possible swimming and camping/eating/hanging.

How hard are you guys thinking of paddling? Åker to Gnesta in two days sounds like a hard pace. (27km). I am not an experienced paddler (yet, I got a few months to train), how many stops/overnights are reasonable? I'm more of a hanger than a paddler Would like to spend as much time possible swimming and camping/eating/hanging.

If you have a proper canoe or kayak, there's no problem. Just take a stroke or two and glide along, and watch the rest of us struggle with our keel-less alpackas.

But I'm with you, I'd rather have a slow pace and enjoy myself. And 13 km per day IS pretty harsh on lakes without the flowing water.

- Tanstaafl.
- Whoever said "No smoke without fire" never went camping.
- It's just badass to have a yak.