The mass killing of animals in society today is the result of human beings following their ego's stance that we are seperate individuals. In reality, all of the universe is interconnected energy. Thus 5% get it half right when they call themselves 'god'. God is also the bird, the tree. These are not 'the god', but these are part of the whole. When we label things, we trivialize them into commodities. Like chickens. But ultimately this self destructive mind set applies to other things as well. Nature, which we ared estroyingin part because we have forgotten that it is sacred. Other human beings.
But people have to eat right? So what is my point. Perhaps my point can best be made by taking a look at some of the oldest cultures, the hunter gatherers. It is fact that there is an ugly side to life. Things have to eat other things. But this seeming vulgairty is self created. What it really is is a constant change. Just as the flowers will one day grow out of your body. When early man was presented the fact that it had to kill to survive, it was hard for their psyches, because they had no real egoic concept of themselves as being seperate from the earth. Meaning, at the very least, they considered animals their equals. To integrat this into their consciousness, they created and performed elaborate rituals to please the animal. One such practice was the symbolic feeding the animal of itself. These ideas applied to nature as well. Even relatively late in human history, when the land was taken from Indians, or allowed to be sold, so to speak, they didnt even understand the concept of land ownership. That is to say, they viewed the earth as unownable, which ultimately is the case.
Now, what does this end up saying? What is my point? The point is wether you eat meat, fish, plants, or what have you, the thing that is important is your perspective. If you realize and believe (rightly so) that you are in a way, eating a part of yourself, or of the whole of which you are a part, a reverence emerges in you. A thankfulness. This is what eating should be. It is hard for someone who acts and thinks correctly to support the wholesale slaughter of animals. But I do not think it is hard for the person to eat meat if his or her mind is in the right place.
Recognize your connectedness with all things. Be still in your mind and watch your ego as it lies to you. Be the watcher of your conditioned thought. As you are still, you are in the moment. From this all true wisdom and insight into life arises.

The mass killing of animals in society today is the result of human beings following their ego's stance that we are seperate individuals. In reality, all of the universe is interconnected energy. Thus 5% get it half right when they call themselves 'god'. God is also the bird, the tree. These are not 'the god', but these are part of the whole. When we label things, we trivialize them into commodities. Like chickens. But ultimately this self destructive mind set applies to other things as well. Nature, which we ared estroyingin part because we have forgotten that it is sacred. Other human beings.
But people have to eat right? So what is my point. Perhaps my point can best be made by taking a look at some of the oldest cultures, the hunter gatherers. It is fact that there is an ugly side to life. Things have to eat other things. But this seeming vulgairty is self created. What it really is is a constant change. Just as the flowers will one day grow out of your body. When early man was presented the fact that it had to kill to survive, it was hard for their psyches, because they had no real egoic concept of themselves as being seperate from the earth. Meaning, at the very least, they considered animals their equals. To integrat this into their consciousness, they created and performed elaborate rituals to please the animal. One such practice was the symbolic feeding the animal of itself. These ideas applied to nature as well. Even relatively late in human history, when the land was taken from Indians, or allowed to be sold, so to speak, they didnt even understand the concept of land ownership. That is to say, they viewed the earth as unownable, which ultimately is the case.
Now, what does this end up saying? What is my point? The point is wether you eat meat, fish, plants, or what have you, the thing that is important is your perspective. If you realize and believe (rightly so) that you are in a way, eating a part of yourself, or of the whole of which you are a part, a reverence emerges in you. A thankfulness. This is what eating should be. It is hard for someone who acts and thinks correctly to support the wholesale slaughter of animals. But I do not think it is hard for the person to eat meat if his or her mind is in the right place.
Recognize your connectedness with all things. Be still in your mind and watch your ego as it lies to you. Be the watcher of your conditioned thought. As you are still, you are in the moment. From this all true wisdom and insight into life arises.

The mass killing of animals in society today is the result of human beings following their ego's stance that we are seperate individuals. In reality, all of the universe is interconnected energy. Thus 5% get it half right when they call themselves 'god'. God is also the bird, the tree. These are not 'the god', but these are part of the whole. When we label things, we trivialize them into commodities. Like chickens. But ultimately this self destructive mind set applies to other things as well. Nature, which we ared estroyingin part because we have forgotten that it is sacred. Other human beings.
But people have to eat right? So what is my point. Perhaps my point can best be made by taking a look at some of the oldest cultures, the hunter gatherers. It is fact that there is an ugly side to life. Things have to eat other things. But this seeming vulgairty is self created. What it really is is a constant change. Just as the flowers will one day grow out of your body. When early man was presented the fact that it had to kill to survive, it was hard for their psyches, because they had no real egoic concept of themselves as being seperate from the earth. Meaning, at the very least, they considered animals their equals. To integrat this into their consciousness, they created and performed elaborate rituals to please the animal. One such practice was the symbolic feeding the animal of itself. These ideas applied to nature as well. Even relatively late in human history, when the land was taken from Indians, or allowed to be sold, so to speak, they didnt even understand the concept of land ownership. That is to say, they viewed the earth as unownable, which ultimately is the case.
Now, what does this end up saying? What is my point? The point is wether you eat meat, fish, plants, or what have you, the thing that is important is your perspective. If you realize and believe (rightly so) that you are in a way, eating a part of yourself, or of the whole of which you are a part, a reverence emerges in you. A thankfulness. This is what eating should be. It is hard for someone who acts and thinks correctly to support the wholesale slaughter of animals. But I do not think it is hard for the person to eat meat if his or her mind is in the right place.
Recognize your connectedness with all things. Be still in your mind and watch your ego as it lies to you. Be the watcher of your conditioned thought. As you are still, you are in the moment. From this all true wisdom and insight into life arises.

fucking hell, i second LHX, this definitely is a classic post!
it is very true and incorporates different thoughts together beautifully.

if we were struggling and in need of food we'd turn to cannibalism too.

werd

meet is meet & i am a meet eater but dont know bout eat pets or rats you would have to prepare that shit 4 me, I am a meet eater , dam near every thing else i would slaughter skin pluck gut myself if i had too

The mass killing of animals in society today is the result of human beings following their ego's stance that we are seperate individuals. In reality, all of the universe is interconnected energy. Thus 5% get it half right when they call themselves 'god'. God is also the bird, the tree. These are not 'the god', but these are part of the whole. When we label things, we trivialize them into commodities. Like chickens. But ultimately this self destructive mind set applies to other things as well. Nature, which we ared estroyingin part because we have forgotten that it is sacred. Other human beings.
But people have to eat right? So what is my point. Perhaps my point can best be made by taking a look at some of the oldest cultures, the hunter gatherers. It is fact that there is an ugly side to life. Things have to eat other things. But this seeming vulgairty is self created. What it really is is a constant change. Just as the flowers will one day grow out of your body. When early man was presented the fact that it had to kill to survive, it was hard for their psyches, because they had no real egoic concept of themselves as being seperate from the earth. Meaning, at the very least, they considered animals their equals. To integrat this into their consciousness, they created and performed elaborate rituals to please the animal. One such practice was the symbolic feeding the animal of itself. These ideas applied to nature as well. Even relatively late in human history, when the land was taken from Indians, or allowed to be sold, so to speak, they didnt even understand the concept of land ownership. That is to say, they viewed the earth as unownable, which ultimately is the case.
Now, what does this end up saying? What is my point? The point is wether you eat meat, fish, plants, or what have you, the thing that is important is your perspective. If you realize and believe (rightly so) that you are in a way, eating a part of yourself, or of the whole of which you are a part, a reverence emerges in you. A thankfulness. This is what eating should be. It is hard for someone who acts and thinks correctly to support the wholesale slaughter of animals. But I do not think it is hard for the person to eat meat if his or her mind is in the right place.
Recognize your connectedness with all things. Be still in your mind and watch your ego as it lies to you. Be the watcher of your conditioned thought. As you are still, you are in the moment. From this all true wisdom and insight into life arises.

Froth, I love you.

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"I hate them and I wish death among them!" - Mahatma Gandhi

The issue is in the cpacity or tendency of the animal to seemingly express love or affection. Dogs love people. In fact, they'll often choose humans over their own. That makes it fairly cruel to kill them. Chickens on the other hand dont give a shit about you.

__________________And what shall we toast?

Madness! Combustion! Liberty and the end of all law! The invisible international! The toast is anarchy!

The mass killing of animals in society today is the result of human beings following their ego's stance that we are seperate individuals. In reality, all of the universe is interconnected energy. Thus 5% get it half right when they call themselves 'god'. God is also the bird, the tree. These are not 'the god', but these are part of the whole. When we label things, we trivialize them into commodities. Like chickens. But ultimately this self destructive mind set applies to other things as well. Nature, which we ared estroyingin part because we have forgotten that it is sacred. Other human beings.

June, I am making a distinction between form and the formless. We appear as seperate entities, but all is one. As for 'past present future', the only thing you ever can be truly conscious in is the 'now'. Thus the simple sutra-like beauty of the statement 'be here now'. The ability to make a distinction is characteristic of egoic thought. You can be assured the dinstinctions we make reflexively today are a form of madness. Your connection never stops, even when you don't believe it.