Thank you Rachel, I know I am not going to get my panties in a wad over anything that comes across the media. At least not over things we have been discussing for a while now. MJ is alive a double died and that is it! Keep the Faith!

It could be fake because every piece of news that comes out of that office, the paper should have the department seal or some type of company letterhead. I don't see anything to identify this information as coming out of that office. For all I know some person off the street could have typed this up and handed it to them.

kdkennedy74 wrote:It could be fake because every piece of news that comes out of that office, the paper should have the department seal or some type of company letterhead. I don't see anything to identify this information as coming out of that office. For all I know some person off the street could have typed this up and handed it to them.

exactly, it looks like it was quickly typed out on a blank word document and printed out on plain paper...so unprofessional...

kdkennedy74 wrote:It could be fake because every piece of news that comes out of that office, the paper should have the department seal or some type of company letterhead. I don't see anything to identify this information as coming out of that office. For all I know some person off the street could have typed this up and handed it to them.

kdkennedy74 wrote:It could be fake because every piece of news that comes out of that office, the paper should have the department seal or some type of company letterhead. I don't see anything to identify this information as coming out of that office. For all I know some person off the street could have typed this up and handed it to them.

kdkennedy74 wrote:It could be fake because every piece of news that comes out of that office, the paper should have the department seal or some type of company letterhead. I don't see anything to identify this information as coming out of that office. For all I know some person off the street could have typed this up and handed it to them.

I agree and once again NO one from the coroner's office actually came out and said this themselves. It has been stated so many times, but seriously when has this happened in high profile cases where drugs are said to play a part?

The coroner for Anna Nicole wouldn't say until everything was back, but he did the talking not someone reading a piece of paper.

kdkennedy74 wrote:It could be fake because every piece of news that comes out of that office, the paper should have the department seal or some type of company letterhead. I don't see anything to identify this information as coming out of that office. For all I know some person off the street could have typed this up and handed it to them.

was the letter signed?

no .

excuse my ignorance, but since when is an official document legal/authorized (whatever the word is) without a signature?

and it's just a press release without signature.....you can release anything..it's not authorized...

I need to check for that date next time they run it across. Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't press releases generally also released on letterhead. They may not be signed but they usually identify the "source" of the information being released don't they?

Im so shocked I can not even cry, Im numb, and froze.MBMJ as a fan I want despairly believe...as a lawyer I Know the game is over.I JUST WANT CONRAD MURDER To fry, and me being the one to turn the chair on!

I have no tears, and suddenly nothing seems the same around.Me and you are so much alike on it.Hold me, and I will hold you.

ballongiraf wrote:that's a good thing!no spoken announcement. Nothing new in regards to the drugs, and no words about heroin (sorry Harvey, LOL).

I suppose, after the van video, they had to get peoples' minds back on "he's dead" - hence the "announcement"...

oh, and the coroner's office just lied to one of our members! LOL.... or not....

They came out with that so called statement because of the van video they were caught you can see on one video on youtube the police kaki shirt guy is removing something from the coroner's van you can also see the van going into the parking garage in the back of the coroner's office.

MJ was caught the video wasn't sup[posed to be release somehow it was, released.

rellababy sweetie, Please don't cry. I agree with Rachel why can't the official toxicology and autopsy be released? Why is it still under lock and key. Stop! feeding into the what the media says. Nothing that happened since MJ's supposed death has been official. Well! Just yesterday UCLA released a press release that the announcement of MJ's death wasn't from hospital personnel but rather his brother Jermaine. What the media briefed is not the official reports. Why is MJ being buried somewhere that his fans can't get to him? (No Closure!) We have to believe what we have been feed. Well! I am not a sheep and I am not falling for it. You have think outside of the box. This is the biggest ? ( movie or hoax) in history. Yes! with money, connections you can make anything happen. Keep the Faith!

Im so shocked I can not even cry, Im numb, and froze.MBMJ as a fan I want despairly believe...as a lawyer I Know the game is over.I JUST WANT CONRAD MURDER To fry, and me being the one to turn the chair on!

I have no tears, and suddenly nothing seems the same around.Me and you are so much alike on it.Hold me, and I will hold you.

Sweet1 wrote:rellababy sweetie, Please don't cry. I agree with Rachel why can't the official toxicology and autopsy be released? Why is it still under lock and key. Stop! feeding into the what the media says. Nothing that happened since MJ's supposed death has been official. Well! Just yesterday UCLA released a press release that the announcement of MJ's death wasn't from hospital personnel but rather his brother Jermaine. What the media briefed is not the official reports. Why is MJ being buried somewhere that his fans can't get to him? (No Closure!) We have to believe what we have been feed. Well! I am not a sheep and I am not falling for it. You have think outside of the box. This is the biggest ? ( movie or hoax) in history. Yes! with money, connections you can make anything happen. Keep the Faith!

I did not even see a date on it. All I seen was that it said News across the top. The next lines which were over to the right of the page said contacts and it listed Ed and someone else. The next line said For Immediate Release. No "sources", no date, no time.

I am really iffy on this one guys.

If anyone can find the date on that sheet of paper please let me know where to look.

kdkennedy74 wrote:It could be fake because every piece of news that comes out of that office, the paper should have the department seal or some type of company letterhead. I don't see anything to identify this information as coming out of that office. For all I know some person off the street could have typed this up and handed it to them.

I agree and once again NO one from the coroner's office actually came out and said this themselves. It has been stated so many times, but seriously when has this happened in high profile cases where drugs are said to play a part?

The coroner for Anna Nicole wouldn't say until everything was back, but he did the talking not someone reading a piece of paper.

this is SO true. I remember that. In fact, I havent seen ONE actual official person coming out and saying anything about this since the day of his death. They had a few cops on tv but that is it...no one else has made an official statement to the media.

Sweet1 wrote:rellababy sweetie, Please don't cry. I agree with Rachel why can't the official toxicology and autopsy be released? Why is it still under lock and key. Stop! feeding into the what the media says. Nothing that happened since MJ's supposed death has been official. Well! Just yesterday UCLA released a press release that the announcement of MJ's death wasn't from hospital personnel but rather his brother Jermaine. What the media briefed is not the official reports. Why is MJ being buried somewhere that his fans can't get to him? (No Closure!) We have to believe what we have been feed. Well! I am not a sheep and I am not falling for it. You have think outside of the box. This is the biggest ? ( movie or hoax) in history. Yes! with money, connections you can make anything happen. Keep the Faith!

i completely agree.

Thanks sweet1, ilprincipe, RachelI so want to believe but this time its hard. And all this a day before his birthday !

this statement is just like the death certificate. It's there, supposedly made by official authorities, yet without signature. Just like MJ legally aint dead as long as the death certificate isnt signed, MJ's cause of death isnt legally propofol overdose as long as it's not signed.

Im so shocked I can not even cry, Im numb, and froze.MBMJ as a fan I want despairly believe...as a lawyer I Know the game is over.I JUST WANT CONRAD MURDER To fry, and me being the one to turn the chair on!

I have no tears, and suddenly nothing seems the same around.Me and you are so much alike on it.Hold me, and I will hold you.

Im done. I lost him.

Its over

Both of you!!! STOP IT NOW!!! Do not be sad...this is NOT the way things like this work in the US.

This is completely going againt their own guidelines when it comes to things like this.....VERY unprofessional. This is not a bad thing at all!!!

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this might sound a little bit far fetched but i got to thinking that the press release only stated that it was Michael Jackson aged fifty, no date of birth, no place of residence, nothing that actually points to our hero,could be any Michael Jackson. i think that omitting these facts has given them a life line, and when everything comes out they can turn round and say "well we were talking about Michael Jackson who lives at no1 Rosebud lane and not the famous King of Pop,its your own faults for being so nosey" I propably talking a load of crap here but it just entered my head so i had to get it out,

beverleyflossy wrote:this might sound a little bit far fetched but i got to thinking that the press release only stated that it was Michael Jackson aged fifty, no date of birth, no place of residence, nothing that actually points to our hero,could be any Michael Jackson. i think that omitting these facts has given them a life line, and when everything comes out they can turn round and say "well we were talking about Michael Jackson who lives at no1 Rosebud lane and not the famous King of Pop,its your own faults for being so nosey" I propably talking a load of crap here but it just entered my head so i had to get it out,

OMG that totally makes sense! Plus it backs up what Souza said on MJHD about Michael's SSN been registered to 3 different people!!!

Thank you Yaya! That is my consensus. I am telling you most everyone I have talked to since June think I am crazy. Yesteday! I was at McDonald's drive thru. I asked the cashier if she had heard MJ faked his death? She okay! We'll see. She had no kind of emotional response whatsoever. Most people believe everything that come across the media waves. Keep the Faith Sweetie!

I'm sure they know that if they pick up that phone it will probably be one of us calling them out on all their lies from the van tag not being registered to them (see Jordy's e-mail from Ed yesterday on the Response from Ed thread), to the paper not being on letterhead or signed. They know they are busted but just can't figure out how to get out of it!

kdkennedy74 wrote:It could be fake because every piece of news that comes out of that office, the paper should have the department seal or some type of company letterhead. I don't see anything to identify this information as coming out of that office. For all I know some person off the street could have typed this up and handed it to them.

I agree and once again NO one from the coroner's office actually came out and said this themselves. It has been stated so many times, but seriously when has this happened in high profile cases where drugs are said to play a part?

The coroner for Anna Nicole wouldn't say until everything was back, but he did the talking not someone reading a piece of paper.

this is SO true. I remember that. In fact, I havent seen ONE actual official person coming out and saying anything about this since the day of his death. They had a few cops on tv but that is it...no one else has made an official statement to the media.

Exactly-how strange is that. We keep hearing how things are being kept under wraps so it doesn't interfere with the investigation, but seriously that is getting kinda lame when we read about the raids before they happen and search warrents are being released with the details.

Come on this is MJ and he doesn't rate an official to come out and do the talking that makes no sense to me. I hate to keep using Anna Nicole, but that's a good example of how much officials were involved in releasing things publicly. An official did all the releasing not someone reading a piece of paper. Again, IMO, none of this is adding up or makes sense and why in the hell isn't someone in the media questioning why an official isn't releasing something this big?

neverlandsfairy wrote:Both of you!!! STOP IT NOW!!! Do not be sad...this is NOT the way things like this work in the US.

This is completely going againt their own guidelines when it comes to things like this.....VERY unprofessional. This is not a bad thing at all!!!

So please please tell me how the things work on U.S cause law change from country to country.And now Im so scared, my mind stopped to think. [/quote]

Considering this is "suppose" to be a high profile death....the way they are announcing their findings is completely NOT the way its done. Usually an official from the LAPD or the coroner wouldve come out and made a statement....IN PERSON .The fact that we were made to read the statement from a piece of paper that was unofficial is complete BS. Its not real.

ishealive wrote:It's the fakest press conference i've ever seen, it a pile of BSThis is just another twist. It's not time for MJ to come back yet so they need to do something to keep us quiet for now.

This won't work though

and their tactic is so predictable. "We'll tell you that propofol killed him, but we wont release the autopsy and tox reports, so you have no choice but to believe what we say".... huh, really? And you sure are the definition of trustworthy, oh yes.

neverlandsfairy wrote:Both of you!!! STOP IT NOW!!! Do not be sad...this is NOT the way things like this work in the US.

This is completely going againt their own guidelines when it comes to things like this.....VERY unprofessional. This is not a bad thing at all!!!

So please please tell me how the things work on U.S cause law change from country to country.And now Im so scared, my mind stopped to think.

Considering this is "suppose" to be a high profile death....the way they are announcing their findings is completely NOT the way its done. Usually an official from the LAPD or the coroner wouldve come out and made a statement....IN PERSON .The fact that we were made to read the statement from a piece of paper that was unofficial is complete BS. Its not real.[/quote]

kdkennedy74 wrote:It could be fake because every piece of news that comes out of that office, the paper should have the department seal or some type of company letterhead. I don't see anything to identify this information as coming out of that office. For all I know some person off the street could have typed this up and handed it to them.

I agree and once again NO one from the coroner's office actually came out and said this themselves. It has been stated so many times, but seriously when has this happened in high profile cases where drugs are said to play a part?

The coroner for Anna Nicole wouldn't say until everything was back, but he did the talking not someone reading a piece of paper.

this is SO true. I remember that. In fact, I havent seen ONE actual official person coming out and saying anything about this since the day of his death. They had a few cops on tv but that is it...no one else has made an official statement to the media.

Exactly-how strange is that. We keep hearing how things are being kept under wraps so it doesn't interfere with the investigation, but seriously that is getting kinda lame when we read about the raids before they happen and search warrents are being released with the details.

Come on this is MJ and he doesn't rate an official to come out and do the talking that makes no sense to me. I hate to keep using Anna Nicole, but that's a good example of how much officials were involved in releasing things publicly. An official did all the releasing not someone reading a piece of paper. Again, IMO, none of this is adding up or makes sense and why in the hell isn't someone in the media questioning why an official isn't releasing something this big?

Anna Nicole is great example. She died the same way. Fake names on Rx bottles and all...but they didnt raid pharmacies for her did they?

And I agree when you ask why no one in the media is questioning the law enforcements sloppiness. NO ONE has questioned the way the Coroner or LAPD has done their job, yet its very clear that they are NOT doing their job properly....

Nothing about that press conference was "OFFICIAL"...because it cant BE official if its fake.