Hi Jack I read Mike Epsteins book on hitting and he teaches to drop the back shoulder and let the front elbow ride up to start the swing.By doing this he seems as if he can attain top hand torque to initiate the swing as the back shoulder drops it feels as if the top hand would be pulling the bat back towards the catcher. Am I correct ?In your thread with A Rod did top hand torque have any thing to do with him being on the wrong plane of the ball?