Which is a 2nd run Ion? Are those the textured-bottoms? I have a couple textured-bottoms and find them noticeably less stable than my Wizards. Granted, I don't have a newer Ion to compare them to. And to think, I was interested in checking out a Warlock or 3...

Second runs are the textured runs. Which are not nearly as stable as the 3rd or 4th runs.

Which is a 2nd run Ion? Are those the textured-bottoms? I have a couple textured-bottoms and find them noticeably less stable than my Wizards. Granted, I don't have a newer Ion to compare them to. And to think, I was interested in checking out a Warlock or 3...

i do, and the biggest thing i notice is the bead size. on my 2nd 1st run soft, it is noticably smaller than my eclipse bead which equals less stability but not much, it still holds its line

Not if you think I'm a liar My buddy has one and I've seen a few others in stores but I don't have any on hand to photograph. If you've seen my blue and white opaque Ions in my videos they look and fly just like those save for the texture. Tooled rim and stuff.

I loved it for some reason. I realize I was in the minority there though. Those 2nd runs are a reason I am just storing discs I stop using now. lol I wanted those again and they weren't there and I hate trying to chase down specific OOP runs.

I loved it for some reason. I realize I was in the minority there though. Those 2nd runs are a reason I am just storing discs I stop using now. lol I wanted those again and they weren't there and I hate trying to chase down specific OOP runs.

I agree. I love the textured bottom. Unfortunately only bought one and when I decided I wanted another one I couldn't find the textured bottom Ions anymore

Not if you think I'm a liar My buddy has one and I've seen a few others in stores but I don't have any on hand to photograph. If you've seen my blue and white opaque Ions in my videos they look and fly just like those save for the texture. Tooled rim and stuff.