imthefonze:My only question is how would that be enforced? Not being a dick, im curious.

In most countries that have such laws, you have a mixture of scheduled and unscheduled inspections of the premises where the firearms are to be stored. If you fail, then either you are hit with a fine or you lose your firearm license.

Yeah, I can only imagine how poorly that would fly in this country since many people who own firearms are very paranoid about the government. They'd probably burst a blood vessel if they had to allow government inspectors into their homes.

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus:Same people that still think black people should be worth 3/5 of a white person. I wish you all would move to the South with your guns and you could suck each others' small dicks all day long. In case you didn't notice, we won the election in November and we are on track to keep winning. Get ready for some changes.

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus:duffblue: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: I don't have a dog in this fight, but I gotta say this after reading these gun control threads: the pro-gun people are clearly less educated and less intelligent than the anti-gun people. Weird.

Is this sarcasm? I'm not really pro or anti-gun, more gun-neutral, but the pro-2nd amendment folks always seem much more intelligent and articulate in these threads, at least in relation to firearms and the law. The anti-gun people constantly use numerous logical fallacies and misleading terminology to make their points. They may be more education overall (who the fark knows) but it certainly isn't demonstrated by their participation in gun threads.

The problem is that gun lovers are only educated about guns. They almost literally know nothing beyond this topic.

Well you certainly didn't pull this little factoid out of your ass.

If you are enamored by something as crude and simplistic as a gun, it's safe to say you probably have never had to write anything in a Blue Book.

Maybe some people just really like the Bill of Rights.

Same people that still think black people should be worth 3/5 of a white person. I wish you all would move to the South with your guns and you could suck each others' small dicks all day long. In case you didn't notice, we won the election in November and we are on track to keep winning. Get ready for some changes.

I voted for Obama, and I am an African anchor baby. What is with your obession with dicks?

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus:A law where all guns are forcibly removed from all public and private buildings by government agents; the manufacture, sale or possession of any gun for any reason results in mandatory life in prison.

So, you advocate armed agents entering everyone's house(because no one would lie and say they don't own forearms)? And those agents would also have to dig up everyone's yard and tear apart their walls and floors(because no one would hide a firearm in any of those places). You're OK with that?

Criminals will always have weapons, no matter how many law abiding citizens you disarm. If someone can drive a truckload of illegal narcotics up here, they can drive a truckload of firearms just as easily. No matter how badly you'd like guns to go away, it just isn't going to happen.

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus:duffblue: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: I don't have a dog in this fight, but I gotta say this after reading these gun control threads: the pro-gun people are clearly less educated and less intelligent than the anti-gun people. Weird.

Is this sarcasm? I'm not really pro or anti-gun, more gun-neutral, but the pro-2nd amendment folks always seem much more intelligent and articulate in these threads, at least in relation to firearms and the law. The anti-gun people constantly use numerous logical fallacies and misleading terminology to make their points. They may be more education overall (who the fark knows) but it certainly isn't demonstrated by their participation in gun threads.

The problem is that gun lovers are only educated about guns. They almost literally know nothing beyond this topic.

Well you certainly didn't pull this little factoid out of your ass.

If you are enamored by something as crude and simplistic as a gun, it's safe to say you probably have never had to write anything in a Blue Book.

Maybe some people just really like the Bill of Rights.

Same people that still think black people should be worth 3/5 of a white person. I wish you all would move to the South with your guns and you could suck each others' small dicks all day long. In case you didn't notice, we won the election in November and we are on track to keep winning. Get ready for some changes.

Bill of rights equals still believing in 3/5ths rule and means your from the south? Son i think your confused about where you are and what year it is.

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus:Same people that still think black people should be worth 3/5 of a white person. I wish you all would move to the South with your guns and you could suck each others' small dicks all day long. In case you didn't notice, we won the election in November and we are on track to keep winning. Get ready for some changes.

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus:violentsalvation: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: ThrobblefootSpectre: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: I don't have a dog in this fight, but I gotta say this after reading these gun control threads: the pro-gun people are clearly less educated and less intelligent than the anti-gun people. Weird.

That really is weird. Because what I definitely see in these threads is that anti-gun people are obsessed with penis size (in every single thread), think about the children a little too often, and panic over stuff that has been around for decades and never used in a crime, while crime is falling steadily. I have yet to see a single coherent rational argument from someone who wants to further restrict guns. Mostly it's the "think of the children!!!" argument used to back up the TSA and anti-abortion arguments also.

Accusing anti-gun people of being obsessed with penis size because they point out pro-gun people's obsession with replacing their small penises with guns is like accusing people who call out racists as being racist themselves. It makes you look stupid, in a "no, YOUR mom" kind of way.

When you bring out penis insults it shows you really have nothing and that you know you've lost your pathetic argument. You're insecure about your penis and scared of guns, that's ok, we won't judge you.

I mean... Comparing your penis size really is a way to win this debate, it really shows you care about dead kids. You should be called to testify about penises in front of congress. Your contribution will be groundbreaking.

It would be more accurate if they stopped talking about the size of your penis and instead just focused on how much of a coward you are that you need a gun to defend yourself.

doglover:pedrop357: Dinjiin: A law that requires firearms to be stored in a locker or safe that is of sufficient strength to prevent unauthorized access when not in use.

How do we know he wouldn't have figured out the combination/location of the key OR coerced it out of her?

This wasn't some guy she just met, it was her son.

You can't reason with people on the internet.

I will say that I agree that people should have safes to keep their guns in and protect them from theft, BUT the idea of mandating one to prevent something what happened in CT is another feelgood measure.

People get hung up on the fact that he had access, well he lived there and shot guns with her. She may have thought his mental 'temperament' was just something he'd just grow out of-he'd leave the house, meet a nice girl, that kind of stuff.

The one thing that can come out of this is hopefully people near that frame of mind with a conscience can do a little self awareness checking and think 'maybe I'm not OK and should see someone' AND people around this person may be a little more proactive in steering the person towards help.

davidphogan:Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: davidphogan: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: I don't have a dog in this fight, but I gotta say this after reading these gun control threads: the pro-gun people are clearly less educated and less intelligent than the anti-gun people. Weird.

I like it when a few anti-gun people start talking about banning guns, and then other anti-gun people try to argue that nobody's trying to ban guns. The completely mangled sentences like mentioning how a poster found shells that flew a mile or two out of a gun and obviously have no idea what they're talking about... There's just so much fail to go around.

That would be interesting of any of what you said actually occurred in reality, but then again you do bring more strawmen to this site than Martha Stewart's porch in October.

I take it you've never seen one of these threads before? Maybe you missed this post from this thread:

Rik01: I used to be a courier in another city. I'd arrive early, as manager, to open up the station. It wasn't unusual to find a spent shell or two in the parking lot. Sometimes I could find where they hit the cement walls. They were fired from at least a mile away.

I just get amused how one side is so stupid and the other is so smart, when both sides look pretty farking dumb to me. For every good post on a topic like this there seems to be a few Piers Morgan vs Alex Jones posts.

WRONG. Not in the claimed "first 50 posts." You people really are stupid.

Fail in Human Form:I swear to the flying spaghetti monster I goto sleep thinking, "there's no way the gun grabbers found something new to biatch about". Then I wake up to see Fark talking about bump firing and slide fire stocks. God damnit so much.....

If they were so concerned about them they wouldn't be publicizing them with their slate articles and their fark submissions. It's scaremongering crap.

But yeah, thanks subby, and Slate! I'll have to get me some stock slide thing so I can throw bullets all over anywhere but my paper target. SCAAARY! That backstop had a huge penis, sad to shoot it so much.

Bull. That's a specious statement.Oxford English Dictionary "regulate"Origin: late Middle English (in the sense 'control by rules'): from late Latin regulat- 'directed, regulated', from the verb regulare, from Latin regula 'rule'

The Founders used "regulated" in the same sense and way that we do. They also used the word "discipline (Article I Section 8) in the same sense we do.

doglover:violentsalvation: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: ThrobblefootSpectre: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: I don't have a dog in this fight, but I gotta say this after reading these gun control threads: the pro-gun people are clearly less educated and less intelligent than the anti-gun people. Weird.

That really is weird. Because what I definitely see in these threads is that anti-gun people are obsessed with penis size (in every single thread), think about the children a little too often, and panic over stuff that has been around for decades and never used in a crime, while crime is falling steadily. I have yet to see a single coherent rational argument from someone who wants to further restrict guns. Mostly it's the "think of the children!!!" argument used to back up the TSA and anti-abortion arguments also.

Accusing anti-gun people of being obsessed with penis size because they point out pro-gun people's obsession with replacing their small penises with guns is like accusing people who call out racists as being racist themselves. It makes you look stupid, in a "no, YOUR mom" kind of way.

When you bring out penis insults it shows you really have nothing and that you know you've lost your pathetic argument. You're insecure about your penis and scared of guns, that's ok, we won't judge you.

I mean... Comparing your penis size really is a way to win this debate, it really shows you care about dead kids. You should be called to testify about penises in front of congress. Your contribution will be groundbreaking.

I would love for him to be in front of Congress under his fark handle.

Dinjiin:In most countries that have such laws, you have a mixture of scheduled and unscheduled inspections of the premises where the firearms are to be stored. If you fail, then either you are hit with a fine or you lose your firearm license.

Yeah, I can only imagine how poorly that would fly in this country since many people who own firearms are very paranoid about the government. They'd probably burst a blood vessel if they had to allow government inspectors into their homes.

Yep, we've have this thing called the 4th amendment and similar provisions in various state constitutions designed to prohibit that kind of crap.

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus:davidphogan: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: davidphogan: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: I don't have a dog in this fight, but I gotta say this after reading these gun control threads: the pro-gun people are clearly less educated and less intelligent than the anti-gun people. Weird.

I like it when a few anti-gun people start talking about banning guns, and then other anti-gun people try to argue that nobody's trying to ban guns. The completely mangled sentences like mentioning how a poster found shells that flew a mile or two out of a gun and obviously have no idea what they're talking about... There's just so much fail to go around.

That would be interesting of any of what you said actually occurred in reality, but then again you do bring more strawmen to this site than Martha Stewart's porch in October.

I take it you've never seen one of these threads before? Maybe you missed this post from this thread:

Rik01: I used to be a courier in another city. I'd arrive early, as manager, to open up the station. It wasn't unusual to find a spent shell or two in the parking lot. Sometimes I could find where they hit the cement walls. They were fired from at least a mile away.

I just get amused how one side is so stupid and the other is so smart, when both sides look pretty farking dumb to me. For every good post on a topic like this there seems to be a few Piers Morgan vs Alex Jones posts.

WRONG. Not in the claimed "first 50 posts." You people really are stupid.

Dinjiin:Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: A law where all guns are forcibly removed from all public and private buildings by government agents; the manufacture, sale or possession of any gun for any reason results in mandatory life in prison.

Congress could pass a bill like that and the president could sign it into law, but it would immediately be struck down on its lack of constitutionality.

Try again.

How about I try again after Scalia and Thomas are both Breitbart'd within two weeks of each other during Obama's term? You guys are gonna shiat when that happens. Just wait.

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus:It would be more accurate if they stopped talking about the size of your penis and instead just focused on how much of a coward you are that you need a gun to defend yourself.

Wow, for someone who started out claiming they "don't gave a dog in this fight", you seem to have picked a side and started feeling extremely outraged and passionate about it all of the sudden. Lol.

duffblue:imthefonze: duffblue: Rik01: I've been to a few 'gun shows' over the years and discovered that, apparently, nearly any semiautomatic rifle can be 'modified' to full auto or close to it.

Usually, you can buy kits to do this from other dealers who legally sell them separate from the weapon. Back then, you could. Not now -- at least while identified as a conversion kit. Call them spare parts and sell away. Another booth will sell you the printed installation instructions.

All of this under the eyes of cops, who patrol the shows.

The 'duh' item I saw was a lever-like addition for a .22 rifle. Kind of like the lever on a lever action Winchester. You clipped it in place, a nob fit next to the trigger, cocked the gun and worked the lever with your fingers, while shouldering it. It never let the trigger fully return, meaning the gun was half cocked at all times, so as you pumped the lever, the weapon fired. The nob acted like a cam. The .22 went off like a machine gun.

The next legal gun I saw was a home built .22 machine gun, complete with tripod. It was legal because, like a gatling gun, you had to turn a crank on the side. The thing was fitted with an enormous barrel magazine -- like a Thompson submachine gun.

It just got rather creepy wandering around those shows because every vendor had a carry permit and was armed. Even old grandma sitting and knitting as grandpaw sold his assortment of high caliber pistols and big, heavy duty plastic bags of shiny new cartridges or reloads.

One thing about owning a gun, especially a high caliber, semiauto one, is you want to shoot it. The power to kill and injure at a distance is a strong lure. I've been to many a bar where drunk patrons got false courage because they were packing and folks got hurt.

TV and movies have brought the abilities of military weapons to our attention and, naturally, certain folks just gotta have one. If they could get their hands on RPG's, they'd stock up on 'em. (To be used for hunting, of course. Rabbits.)

Game wardens are forever confiscating military weapons from hunters who tried to sneak them into hunting grounds. Miss that deer on the first shot, and you just keep on spraying until you get it.

It's kind of like those folks who insist on going fishing with dynamite or hand grenades.

IMO, you don't need military weapons. The best shots I know of started out with and still use bolt action weapons. Many used single shot types, which made you take time to aim because your prey could be in the next county by the time you reloaded.

I know a guy who owns a .50 automatic. He's a collector. Each shot costs him $5.00 and he has a couple of cases of ammo. Big shells.

I also knew folks who bought these 'burglar traps', a cylinder with a cocking mechanism that chambered a shotgun shell. A clamp was welded to it. No trigger. Just a ring you attached a string to, pulled and cocked the thing. You fixed it out of sight to door frames or whatever, ran the string low through eye rings and waited. Anyone walking past who hit the string, got a load of buckshot at close range.

Some farmers who had these old houses full of antiques on their lands got tired of them being broken into by antique hunters and wired them up with these things. A few farmers went to jail when their traps crippled folks who thought the houses were abandoned.

Militants used them to booby trap trails to their bunkers. You could buy camouflaged wire and cord for them.

I own guns, but no military types.

I used to be a courier in another city. I'd arrive early, as manager, to open up the station. It wasn't unusual to find a spent shell or two in the parking lot. Sometimes I could find where they hit the cement walls. They were fired from at least a mile away.

In the same city I worked in a psychiatric institution on the outskirts of a high crime area. Every New Years Eve we had to keep the patients confined to the inner rooms, away from the windows because it sounded like a war out there at night. We could hear spent shells hitting the roof.

Unfortunately, the Right to bear arms means morons and psychopaths can get them also.

log_jammin:so do we have any statics on the number of crimes committed with this modification?

Probably none. It doesn't seem like it lends itself to consistent use when moving. You still have to brace the butt against something reasonable rigid, otherwise the rifle has nothing to bounce in and out of. it would just move as a single piece unit.

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus:Same people that still think black people should be worth 3/5 of a white person. I wish you all would move to the South with your guns and you could suck each others' small dicks all day long. In case you didn't notice, we won the election in November and we are on track to keep winning. Get ready for some changes.

Jeeze.....some of you people ( on both sides ) are liars. I'm a happy gun owner with a few of the guns that may be in trouble. As a gun owner that used to use public ranges, I have seen idiot owners that have scared the hell out of me and I have wished there was a test like a driving test before somebody could own a gun. I've had a barrel of a loaded gun swept over me three times in one day, until the RSO threw the guy out for being a danger. Every gun owner knows a retard that owns guns who shouldn't. Now for the other side, if you ban the so called "assault rifles" gun owners are going to get crafty or skilled in other firearms to where you will want those new guns banned. I took up shooting because I couldn't hit a golf ball 300 yards, now I can blow away said golf ball at 700 yards. The rifle I use for this is a very modified custom hunting rifle. You take away AR's and AK's and in six months some warped person will go University of Texas Tower somewhere and a new call to ban will start, cause if I can learn that skill anybody else can probably learn it better and faster than I did. T. Jefferson, G. Washington, J. Adams and the rest of the founding fathers had a hell of a time buying/making cannon and firearms to overthrow the British and were paranoid this new country may end up as broken as the one they rebelled against. Jefferson even called for a new revolution every 50 years or so. They knew what they were saying when they wrote the second. As far as I am concerned , if a govt soldier can have a Javelin, I should be able to also if I can afford it. This will never happen, but we need to find a way to blame those responsible for attacks like Sandy Hook instead of the innate object. If this means mental evaluations to get a firearm or hold people responsible for letting ill people get ahold of weapons, so be it. Just do not step on my rights to own firearms. Make people responsible for their actions . Of the 500 people killed in Chicago this last year, I assume more children died than at Sandy Hook. More murders occurred last year by knife than by rifle, why aren't we banning knifes ? I hear they are working on that next in England! Where would the slippery slope end ?

pedrop357:How do we know he wouldn't have figured out the combination/location of the key OR coerced it out of her?

That's a very valid point. He could have. But there is also a good chance that he would have been unable to obtain the key or combo, been locked out and would have given up.

I mostly look at secure lockers and safes as a way to keep firearms away from your kids and from opportunistic thieves. Somebody who is seriously dedicated at getting into them will probably find a way, but hopefully it will slow them down enough that you can detect the situation and react.

pedrop357:we've have this thing called the 4th amendment and similar provisions in various state constitutions designed to prohibit that kind of crap.

Except that search and seizure laws have generally been watered down over the years. And they could always do an end run by allowing some classes of firearms without a safe, but requiring it for others. At that point, they could argue that you are volunteering to allow them in since you could just buy an inspection-free .22 revolver instead.

Lastly, the Constitution can always change. People on both sides of the debate are irked over the vagueness of the Second Amendment.

To the People of the State of New York: THE power of regulating the militia, and of commanding its services in times of insurrection and invasion are natural incidents to the duties of superintending the common defense, and of watching over the internal peace of the Confederacy.It requires no skill in the science of war to discern that uniformity in the organization and discipline of the militia would be attended with the most beneficial effects, whenever they were called into service for the public defense. It would enable them to discharge the duties of the camp and of the field with mutual intelligence and concert an advantage of peculiar moment in the operations of an army; and it would fit them much sooner to acquire the degree of proficiency in military functions which would be essential to their usefulness. This desirable uniformity can only be accomplished by confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority. It is, therefore, with the most evident propriety, that the plan of the convention proposes to empower the Union "to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, RESERVING TO THE STATES RESPECTIVELY THE APPOINTMENT OF THE OFFICERS, AND THE AUTHORITY OF TRAINING THE MILITIA ACCORDING TO THE DISCIPLINE PRESCRIBED BY CONGRESS." ....

PacManDreaming:Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: A law where all guns are forcibly removed from all public and private buildings by government agents; the manufacture, sale or possession of any gun for any reason results in mandatory life in prison.

So, you advocate armed agents entering everyone's house(because no one would lie and say they don't own forearms)? And those agents would also have to dig up everyone's yard and tear apart their walls and floors(because no one would hide a firearm in any of those places). You're OK with that?

Criminals will always have weapons, no matter how many law abiding citizens you disarm. If someone can drive a truckload of illegal narcotics up here, they can drive a truckload of firearms just as easily. No matter how badly you'd like guns to go away, it just isn't going to happen.

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus:Accusing anti-gun people of being obsessed with penis size because they point out pro-gun people's obsession with replacing their small penises with guns is like accusing people who call out racists as being racist themselves. It makes you look stupid, in a "no, YOUR mom" kind of way.

When you bring out penis insults it shows you really have nothing and that you know you've lost your pathetic argument. You're insecure about your penis and scared of guns, that's ok, we won't judge you.

I mean... Comparing your penis size really is a way to win this debate, it really shows you care about dead kids. You should be called to testify about penises in front of congress. Your contribution will be groundbreaking.

It would be more accurate if they stopped talking about the size of your penis and instead just focused on how much of a coward you are that you need a gun to defend yourself.

My penis is fine, thanks for asking, I know you guys like to bring them up a lot, but I promise you, it is doing OK. Oh and I don't feel I need a gun to protect myself, they are all locked up (as you probably should be, before you fall down and hurt yourself). I carry one sometimes, but hardly ever. But I also live a half mile from signs like this:and the last time I posted that I was told I was bring immigration into an anti-gun thread with a lame photoshop. And I'm not, I like immigrants, and here's the same sign from a .gov

davidphogan:Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Same people that still think black people should be worth 3/5 of a white person. I wish you all would move to the South with your guns and you could suck each others' small dicks all day long. In case you didn't notice, we won the election in November and we are on track to keep winning. Get ready for some changes.

Wow, you just completely gave up. That's sad.

That is not giving up, that is going all in and destroying your opponent. Notice you had ZERO rebuttal to any of my points.

Can't we just modify the Second Amendment a TINY bit? To where you're not allowed to own functioning crap that can kill a whole lot of people in 30 seconds? You can't hunt with it, you can't do meaningful target practice with it.I mean, that's why we pay taxes for an Army, right? For the mass killing business.(And if we ever have to shoot back against our Army, well, that battle's already lost.)

duffblue:Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: violentsalvation: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: ThrobblefootSpectre: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: I don't have a dog in this fight, but I gotta say this after reading these gun control threads: the pro-gun people are clearly less educated and less intelligent than the anti-gun people. Weird.

That really is weird. Because what I definitely see in these threads is that anti-gun people are obsessed with penis size (in every single thread), think about the children a little too often, and panic over stuff that has been around for decades and never used in a crime, while crime is falling steadily. I have yet to see a single coherent rational argument from someone who wants to further restrict guns. Mostly it's the "think of the children!!!" argument used to back up the TSA and anti-abortion arguments also.

Accusing anti-gun people of being obsessed with penis size because they point out pro-gun people's obsession with replacing their small penises with guns is like accusing people who call out racists as being racist themselves. It makes you look stupid, in a "no, YOUR mom" kind of way.

When you bring out penis insults it shows you really have nothing and that you know you've lost your pathetic argument. You're insecure about your penis and scared of guns, that's ok, we won't judge you.

I mean... Comparing your penis size really is a way to win this debate, it really shows you care about dead kids. You should be called to testify about penises in front of congress. Your contribution will be groundbreaking.

It would be more accurate if they stopped talking about the size of your penis and instead just focused on how much of a coward you are that you need a gun to defend yourself.

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus:davidphogan: Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Same people that still think black people should be worth 3/5 of a white person. I wish you all would move to the South with your guns and you could suck each others' small dicks all day long. In case you didn't notice, we won the election in November and we are on track to keep winning. Get ready for some changes.

Wow, you just completely gave up. That's sad.

That is not giving up, that is going all in and destroying your opponent. Notice you had ZERO rebuttal to any of my points.

3 million vote difference in a nation of 325 million is not a mandate. Don't threaten to go all hitler like ( in a "I'm gonna shove this peace , love, happiness sh&t down your throat and your gonna like it ) or you will end up causing more hate .....

Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus:How about I try again after Scalia and Thomas are both Breitbart'd within two weeks of each other during Obama's term? You guys are gonna shiat when that happens. Just wait.

So you're suggesting that I should be concerned about a possible shift in the high court due to an assassination of those justices during the current administration? You're a farking loon. Or a farking idiot. Or both.

pedrop357:log_jammin: so do we have any statics on the number of crimes committed with this modification?

Probably none. It doesn't seem like it lends itself to consistent use when moving. You still have to brace the butt against something reasonable rigid, otherwise the rifle has nothing to bounce in and out of. it would just move as a single piece unit.

Well you gun-nutters would know about bracing your butt against something rigid, I guess.

Ever watch one of those old Tom & Jerry cartoons where Tom and Jerry are so intent on battling each other that Butch the Dog can smack them in the head with a fireplace poker, leaving comic cat- and mouse-shaped dents, and Tom & Jerry are so single-minded in their battle that they don't realize they've suffered what would be a fatal head wound outside of Toontown?

That's exactly what Fark is when a couple of guys go at it in a tiresome flame war--I'm not mentioning names for now. I could waltz in, crack some corny Borscht-Belt jokes, detonate an atomic bomb, , or show a penis-shaped gun, and you squareheads here would keep up their endless penis-compensation accusations ad infinitum.

How is it not true???? Never mind, I quit. Never argue with idiots. They will only drag you down to their level. And here I was a moderate gun owner considering some sort of change and I just got pushed back into far right......nite nite....a$$holes

violentsalvation:Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: Accusing anti-gun people of being obsessed with penis size because they point out pro-gun people's obsession with replacing their small penises with guns is like accusing people who call out racists as being racist themselves. It makes you look stupid, in a "no, YOUR mom" kind of way.

When you bring out penis insults it shows you really have nothing and that you know you've lost your pathetic argument. You're insecure about your penis and scared of guns, that's ok, we won't judge you.

I mean... Comparing your penis size really is a way to win this debate, it really shows you care about dead kids. You should be called to testify about penises in front of congress. Your contribution will be groundbreaking.

It would be more accurate if they stopped talking about the size of your penis and instead just focused on how much of a coward you are that you need a gun to defend yourself.

My penis is fine, thanks for asking, I know you guys like to bring them up a lot, but I promise you, it is doing OK. Oh and I don't feel I need a gun to protect myself, they are all locked up (as you probably should be, before you fall down and hurt yourself). I carry one sometimes, but hardly ever. But I also live a half mile from signs like this:

and the last time I posted that I was told I was bring immigration into an anti-gun thread with a lame photoshop. And I'm not, I like immigrants, and here's the same sign from a .gov

Do you have an argument? Or do you just fancy my penis?

Nah I just fancy your penis. Why would someone think that was photoshopped?

TiredWings:How is it not true???? Never mind, I quit. Never argue with idiots. They will only drag you down to their level. And here I was a moderate gun owner considering some sort of change and I just got pushed back into far right......nite nite....a$$holes