Live rankings and race rankings are now the same. Delpo is 735 behind Andy, so as someone said earlier - he would have to get to the final next week to overtake. I think!

I do remember that after this weekend they drop the previous WTF points from all so as you say it is a simple matter then of just adding whatever is gained at the O2. Any of the four at present behind Andy could go past him IF they win in London. Some could by getting to the final or the semis. Only Stan W would not add enough points if he won to leapfrog Andy. That is the only certainty. Those of us wishing Andy to maintain as high a ranking position as possible need to be wishing for a Novak v Rafa final as not only do they mop up the big points but the others will then be picking up less in round robin wins?

I do remember that after this weekend they drop the previous WTF points from all so as you say it is a simple matter then of just adding whatever is gained at the O2. Any of the four at present behind Andy could go past him IF they win in London. Some could by getting to the final or the semis. Only Stan W would not add enough points if he won to leapfrog Andy. That is the only certainty. Those of us wishing Andy to maintain as high a ranking position as possible need to be wishing for a Novak v Rafa final as not only do they mop up the big points but the others will then be picking up less in round robin wins?

Andy is on 5790Ferrer 5560 (more if he beats Rafa today!)Delpo 5055Berdy 3980Fed 3805, 4445 if he wins Paris.

WTF maximum points is 1500 - would take Berdy to 5480.

WTF points are 1500 for undefeated Champion (200 for each round robin match win, plus 400 for a semi-final win, plus 500 for the final win). Even if Fed won both tournaments, but lost one of his RR matches he wouldn't overtake.... I think!

Elena,

Of course you are right. Was just checking if the community was awake (joking it was my error again!)? I decided to give 2000 for the win rather than 1500! The thought of Berdych being ranked above Andy, whether or not he usually wins in their head to heads, made me shudder so some relief there. I couldn't believe that he lost to Ferrer yesterday. I suppose it was a reflection of ranking though?

I am going to the first semis at the O2 so by that time I think that I will know where Andy is likely to finish in the 2013 rankings. Nearly two months then to see whether Andy makes it back for any tennis in Australia. I gather that the battle for number one spot in 2013 is over already and Rafa is now guaranteed that position whatever happens in Paris and London?