While I agree that it is far from great, I as an old businessman, view it as a good start. Of the taxes you pay to Uncle Sam, I have to match that. Of every dollar I send per employee, that means less I have to give raises or give another person a job. I understand that there are some companies that only see the bottom dollar but for most the way to continue making money and survive is to have good employees and be competitive. To keep good employees means paying better wages and to stay competitive means offering products and services at reasonable prices. Why do you think a lot of jobs are leaving the country? Money. Stay here and be taxed and regulated or move where you pay less in wages and taxes. Right or wrong, that is how it is. As I said, Money.

Forgive me M'Lady but there must be a balance in views. I see the Republicans and Democrats as two faces of the same coin. In both you will hear what they want or think you want to hear. I will take any advantage that either Party sends me as it all balances out in the end. Don't worry about what they offer you in the future because you can not depend on that. What you can depend on is taking the scraps(advantages) they throw you and build your own future. If you follow either party then you will always be on the receiving end.

Forgive me sweet Lady. I did not mean to imply that I thought your views were wrong. We are what our experiences make us so I must respect the views of others. My point is that we should never depend on our Government to save us. It is like the old busy body down the road who tries to tell us how to live our lives. If we wait on Uncle Sam and his clowns to keep promises then we will die waiting. Do I like Trump? I think he is an idiot, but then again I haven't liked a President since JFK. Reagan came close but was still not the President of old standings. Our Government has lost sight of its purpose. It was not meant to regulate how we live our lives.

Ok, having said all of that, here is why I think they should have lowered the Corporate Tax and why it really doesn't matter.

In itself, it should create jobs and keep industry at home.

Aside from the stated, it takes away an excuse to move industry abroad.

Overlooking the bragging rights it gives Trump and Republicans, It really does help make this Country competitive in the Global Market.

Why it doesn't really matter?

All of those tax loopholes that the Government give the Corporate world.

Tax laws change like the wind. The tax code has changed almost every time there is an election. It is a dog and pony show.

As for the the tax break they are giving the citizens of this great Country? I can answer that too. We hear about how this will benefit the rich more but in truth the rich don't pay taxes like we do. Like the Corporations, the rich can afford the tax write offs to help lower their tax bill. This leaves the rest of us. Here is why you won't see the dreaded tax hike in the coming years. The tax base is at saturation now. Sure, you might see higher taxes but only a few dollars. Why, because the Politicians want to keep their jobs and frankly there is no more money to be had. The more money printed the less the money is worth. Like Crypto currency, When you create something from nothing you have something of little or no worth.

Forgive me for the rant. I am but an old demented business man *Retired*

Always room to learn a bit more

Chris will tell you that I love a good political discussion - regardless of if we agree or disagree. It's important to hear the thoughts of others. It's important to have a different view of the world. He and I don't always agree, but we have surprised ourselves when we have agreed and agreed to disagree when it fit the situation.

I don't disagree (much) with the Corporate cuts; it does take a strong economy to make a strong America. And you correctly state, if cuts aren't granted Corporations and the wealthy, they will find the loopholes in itemization to take them anyway.

Unfortunately, tossing a few dollars my way in every paycheck isn't going to encourage mass spending on my part. I don't believe the "windfall" that Trump has granted with this tax cute is the "huuuggge Christmas gift" that he markets it to be. Similar as to what was said of Sarah Palin, it's all lipstick on a pig....

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Chris will tell you that I love a good political discussion - regardless of if we agree or disagree. It's important to hear the thoughts of others. It's important to have a different view of the world. He and I don't always agree, but we have surprised ourselves when we have agreed and agreed to disagree when it fit the situation.

iHelpForum Jester & Door Greeter

Chris will tell you that I love a good political discussion - regardless of if we agree or disagree. It's important to hear the thoughts of others. It's important to have a different view of the world. He and I don't always agree, but we have surprised ourselves when we have agreed and agreed to disagree when it fit the situation.

This is healthy Terry and the way we should all approach political discussions. I don't expect to lead the discussion or be agreed with. I truly want to know where I stand in the war of words. I fear I would become bothersome in time because I will start bringing history in the mix going as far back as the Greeks and Romans. I usually wind up pithing people off when I remind them that a political discussion with out a final consensus never turns out well. Just look at what happened to the Greek and Roman Empires.

Unfortunately, tossing a few dollars my way in every paycheck isn't going to encourage mass spending on my part. I don't believe the "windfall" that Trump has granted with this tax cute is the "huuuggge Christmas gift" that he markets it to be. Similar as to what was said of Sarah Palin, it's all lipstick on a pig....

In this we agree. It was just a way to get votes. Any true Tax Reform would make everyone pay their "fair" share and no one would have to pay more. As far as who will benefit from this? No one but the Politicians will.

Always room to learn a bit more

This is healthy Terry and the way we should all approach political discussions. I don't expect to lead the discussion or be agreed with. I truly want to know where I stand in the war of words. I fear I would become bothersome in time because I will start bringing history in the mix going as far back as the Greeks and Romans. I usually wind up pithing people off when I remind them that a political discussion with out a final consensus never turns out well. Just look at what happened to the Greek and Roman Empires.

You must be one of those Tea Party goers or is that comers. I get confused. I'm with you on the complete tax reform but who gets what? That has always been the problem. Those who make the rules reap the benefits. Ask yourself why the tax code is so complicated. Reason, so no one without a general IQ level above 1000 can determine who is supposed to pay what. Not one person at the IRS will interpret the rules the same.

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You must be one of those Tea Party goers or is that comers. I get confused. I'm with you on the complete tax reform but who gets what? That has always been the problem. Those who make the rules reap the benefits. Ask yourself why the tax code is so complicated. Reason, so no one without a general IQ level above 1000 can determine who is supposed to pay what. Not one person at the IRS will interpret the rules the same.

I would agree but how do we start and where? What has broken our system of Government is opposing view points with no consensus. When rules are passed they are not meant to benefit everyone but just one side of the argument. Then instead of fixing a rule or law the opposing side will just add to when they get into power. This further confuses things. There are laws and rules on the books that have no applicable place in today's Society but they are still used to browbeat us into submission. Anyway, I will leave you with this, The only evil Political Party is the one in power and only by those in opposing view points.

Person Of All Kinds

As far as tax reform is concerned, there is certainly no easy way to go about it. However, many ideas have been tossed out. Just for example, Herman Cains 9-9-9 plan back in 2012. (Merely an example, not saying I supported it) The biggest issue is the fact that our so called representatives are not representing the people(either side). Just look at the past few years and how many times threats of shutdown would be thrown out. Why, because no agreements could be made. I believe we did infact have one around 2014ish(can't remember).

iHelpForum Jester & Door Greeter

They are and were lots of good ideas and intentions but human nature being what it is, that is all we have. Until we get over the 'Me First' attitude then progress is not an option. Greed and the ' I'm too important ' views on life in general shows that Society needs to mature. I was a successful businessman in my own fashion. I had good employees who cared about what they did. In turn, I made them a comfortable living. Grownup attitudes for young people in and just out of high school. Our Government needs to take a lesson from those kids. I am still very proud of the people who worked for me. Mature kids. LOL

Person Of All Kinds

They are and were lots of good ideas and intentions but human nature being what it is, that is all we have. Until we get over the 'Me First' attitude then progress is not an option. Greed and the ' I'm too important ' views on life in general shows that Society needs to mature. I was a successful businessman in my own fashion. I had good employees who cared about what they did. In turn, I made them a comfortable living. Grownup attitudes for young people in and just out of high school. Our Government needs to take a lesson from those kids. I am still very proud of the people who worked for me. Mature kids. LOL