My toad is a 2013 Wrangler. Never had it slip out of place. Never had a problem with it braking. It does have a minor problem but I have yet to see that even mentioned here. I still think most problems I have seen posted here are operator positioning errors.

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I am surprised to hear these concerns for the Patriot. We've been using it in our Wrangler TJ for four years without any problem. And for about a year [also] in our Cherokee TrailHawk. I think the key is to snug it in real good with the driver's seat so there isn't an opportunity for it to slide off to one side. We are quite pleased with ours. \ken

PS. We have not experienced the loss of communication between the toad and the dash control/monitor unit, either. Hope I am not jinxing anything!

My toad is a 2013 Wrangler. Never had it slip out of place. Never had a problem with it braking. It does have a minor problem but I have yet to see that even mentioned here. I still think most problems I have seen posted here are operator positioning errors.

As the Patriot brakes it pushes against the seat. My Wrangler seat is soft. I could see it pushed the seat back almost as quickly as it pushed the brake pedal in. Very obviously slowing down the system. Blue Ox sells a stiffener. $50. It looked cheaply built. I'm on a ranch. I took a slice out of a 10" dia gated irrigation pipe. About 17" long & 6" wide. It has a curve the radius of the 10" dia pipe. DW covered it with black vinyl. We use velcro to attach it to the Patriot. The concave side pushes against the seat. The stiffener works well. I then push my seat forward as far as it will go and still allow the brake to be released. The stiffener also prevents any sliding of the Patriot because of the velcro attachment to the Patriot. The only minor problem I have noticed with the patriot is stopped facing down hill on a steep hill. Like waiting for a long red tfc signal. After about 5 minutes the Patriot will release the brake and indicate an error reading. It is just a problem with all surge systems and the brake is released to save the battery in the Patriot. When I am on a steep hill with my foot on the brake pedal I just turn down the sensitivity to release the braking before it errors out and goes tilt.