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Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

Originally Posted by Yankees1962

So what do you want to do about it?

There is nothing that can be done....my point was that people who are concerned about it have a right to be....and not have their concerns immediately shot down by other posters. Its June, so this is no longer some 2-3 week stretch of bad luck or some bad AB's.

Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

Originally Posted by dabomb2045

There is nothing that can be done....my point was that people who are concerned about it have a right to be....and not have their concerns immediately shot down by other posters. Its June, so this is no longer some 2-3 week stretch of bad luck or some bad AB's.

Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

Originally Posted by dabomb2045

I have no idea. Obviously the longer it goes on, the more doubt I have that it will. This issue is a concern and fans have a legit reason to be worried about it.

I'm not questioning your concern nor anybody else's, but asking your opinion on whether it will get better or what can they do to improve it? Fans can feel anyway they want to because their thoughts or feelings doesn't change what's happening on the field of play.

Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

How does a team with this much talent have difficulty hitting with runners in scoring position? Is the entire team just having a bad year at once? Will there be improvement with some of these players as the season plays out?

It doesn't look like you can blame it on just 1 or 2 players. Why are teams with lesser hitters performing better with RISP? Should they abandon the homerun and become punch and judy hitters? Should they fire Keven Long?

Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

Originally Posted by dabomb2045

I have no idea. Obviously the longer it goes on, the more doubt I have that it will. This issue is a concern and fans have a legit reason to be worried about it.

I don't think this offense will be that much different for the rest of the season. ARod and Teix will hit right around where they are now. ARod will get 20 HRs and Teix will be right around 30 HRs. Both of them are still good players. It's just that they will never be in their prime again. We have to learn to accept that fact.

Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

Originally Posted by LIYanks

I don't think this offense will be that much different for the rest of the season. ARod and Teix will hit right around where they are now. ARod will get 20 HRs and Teix will be right around 30 HRs. Both of them are still good players. It's just that they will never be in their prime again. We have to learn to accept that fact.

Luckily, no team is that much better than us either.

Yet, teams with lesser hitters than Arod and Teix are hitting better with RISP. It doesn't make any sense to me.

Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

Originally Posted by Yankees1962

It doesn't look like you can blame it on just 1 or 2 players. Why are teams with lesser hitters performing better with RISP? Should they abandon the homerun and become punch and judy hitters? Should they fire Keven Long?

As feeble as our bats have been, we are still among the elite teams in AL. Of course, if you want to use salary as the measuring stick, NYY has underperformed big time. Kevin Long is not the reason for this unproductive offense. In fact, does guys like ARod or Teixeira even bother to ask for Kevin Long's advice on hitting? I don't think so either.

Here is my take. If I want to get paid like a superstar, I am not going to learn to lay down a bunt just because of the shift. I am going to hit the long ball because not only chicks dig it, most GMs check that stat when they dish out a mega-contract.

Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

Originally Posted by apalradio

.218 RISP. Why are we even in denial about this?

Originally Posted by dabomb2045

Seriously. At what point is it more then "just a slump"? It is June now.

Who is in denial about it? It sucks. Some may not be ready to assume this will carry out into September/October, and some may be a little skeptical around wishing away homeruns in order to acquire a few extra hits with RISP, but I don't think anyone isn't frustrated/concerned about the atrocity that has been RISP production this season. Just so odd how stark a contrast it has been year over year. Last year they were ridiculously good with RISP - best in the AL.

Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

Originally Posted by Yankees1962

I'm not questioning your concern nor anybody else's, but asking your opinion on whether it will get better or what can they do to improve it? Fans can feel anyway they want to because their thoughts or feelings doesn't change what's happening on the field of play.

I wish I knew a way to improve it. I mean its not like something you can practice or go out of your way to work to get better at it. There has to be some amount of bad luck involved....but its not all that. My best guess is that its a mental thing at this point. They go up to the plate, knowing the struggles the team has had....and they just try to do too much. Swing a little harder. Maybe instead of just driving an outside pitch the other way, they try to jack it 800 feet...and end up grounding out, popping up or fouling it back. I look at the Cano AB last night vs Price and it was a classic case of the hitter bailing a pitcher out. 1-0 pitch, he swings at a pitch way inside on his hands. Then he chases several pitches on the outer half, and because he is trying to pull he just rolls over a grounder to 2nd.

I dont know how to fix it. The coaching staff can drill it into the players heads of what they need to do at the plate in those situations till they are blue in the face. They can study video of what they are doing wrong....none of it matters unless they change their approach when they step into the box. And to me, thats just something a player has to fix on his own. Nobody can help him. I really dont know what Kevin Long can do here. Maybe he's too mechanical and has his players thinking too much up there? Perhaps. But they hit fine in non-RISP situations. If they werent hitting at all, then I would say that Long is an issue.

Re: 2012 Offense Performance Thread

Originally Posted by dabomb2045

I wish I knew a way to improve it. I mean its not like something you can practice or go out of your way to work to get better at it. There has to be some amount of bad luck involved....but its not all that. My best guess is that its a mental thing at this point. They go up to the plate, knowing the struggles the team has had....and they just try to do too much. Swing a little harder. Maybe instead of just driving an outside pitch the other way, they try to jack it 800 feet...and end up grounding out, popping up or fouling it back. I look at the Cano AB last night vs Price and it was a classic case of the hitter bailing a pitcher out. 1-0 pitch, he swings at a pitch way inside on his hands. Then he chases several pitches on the outer half, and because he is trying to pull he just rolls over a grounder to 2nd.

I dont know how to fix it. The coaching staff can drill it into the players heads of what they need to do at the plate in those situations till they are blue in the face. They can study video of what they are doing wrong....none of it matters unless they change their approach when they step into the box. And to me, thats just something a player has to fix on his own. Nobody can help him. I really dont know what Kevin Long can do here. Maybe he's too mechanical and has his players thinking too much up there? Perhaps. But they hit fine in non-RISP situations. If they werent hitting at all, then I would say that Long is an issue.

Last year they were one of the best with RISP. I just think 2012, is one of those seasons when nothing is easy for the Yankees. One thing that does bother me is that certain players aren't working the counts like they've done in the past. Anyhow, perhaps they'll have a better second half of the season with RISP because it can't really get any worse.