The Three Clinchers for Proof of Alien Life

Originally posted by Gawdzilla
Ever see "flak" bursts? Do you think aliens really build spaceships that look like exploding artillery shells?

....No one is saying that aliens build spaceships that look like exploding artillery shells. Enjoy the images. ;-)

Anyhow...

You must have missed the portion of my first post that covered this matter.

I addressed the artillery issue here:

"*The Object was initially spotted on Radar at 120 miles away before being 'coned' by the searchlights and fired upon; such lights do not have a
range of 120 miles and could not possibly account for the radar contact that was tracked on radar. ;-)

*Also, since the anti-aircraft guns did not start firing until the object was almost over Santa Monica, we know that anti-aircraft fire cannot
possibly account for the unknown object tracked on radar prior to that point where they began firing. ;-)"

The radar contact was lost several miles offshore. The firing started 45 minutes after contact was lost. Neither the searchlights nor the
anti-aircraft guns were radar directed. There is no indication that an object (or any airplanes) was being tracked by radar over Los Angeles.

What is known is that a Japanese submarine had shelled an oil refinery near Santa Barbara two days before. The I-17 was a type B1 submarine which
carried a reconnaissance seaplane. The radar return may have been from that aircraft or it may have been a false contact.

its interesting to see how the ufo crowd mould events to suit their desires. The vast majority of people saw absolutely nothing in the sky except
search lights and AA flak.

some poeple reported seeing a V shape formation of up to 20 planes.

A police station reported a downed plane falling into a street. When the army got there there was nothing at all.

The commander of the artil thought he saw planes then realised it was just smoke playing tricks.

A few people reported seeing a balloon/blimp.

UFO folkes like to be selective about wintness testimony in this case. I think people seeing planes/balloons is a result of the power of suggestion.
And the photo in the la times, the paper never claimed there was an object in the picture nor did the photographer.

Radars picked up an unidentified target 120 miles west of Los Angeles. Antiaircraft batteries were alerted at 0215 and were put on Green
Alert—ready to fire—a few minutes later. The AAF kept its pursuit planes on the ground, preferring to await indications of the scale and direction
of any attack before committing its limited fighter force. Radars tracked the approaching target to within a few miles of the coast, and at 0221 the
regional controller ordered a blackout. Thereafter the information center was flooded with reports of “enemy planes, ” even though the mysterious
object tracked in from sea seems to have vanished.

The shelling of Ellwood had put the Army into a high state of alert. They were jumpy to begin with.

Loyal Japanese-Americans who had predicted that
a demonstration would be made in connection with the President's speech also prophesied that Los Angeles would be attacked the next night.74 The
Army, too, was convinced that some new action impended, and took all possible precautions. Newspapers were permitted to announce that a strict state
of readiness against renewed attacks had been imposed,75 and there followed the confused action known as "the Battle of Los Angeles."

From p. 280:

The many alerts of this period reflect the inexperience of both the public and the defense forces. To some critics they indicated a deliberate
attempt by the Army to frighten the public in order to stimulate interest in war preparations. Before accepting this view, however, it should be noted
that many of the reports of unidentified aircraft, leading to precautionary blackouts, resulted from mechanical difficulties with new radar equipment
and from the understandable mistakes of inadequately trained personnel.

The NASA tapes blew me away and gave me the chills. Dont get me wrong, I do believe there is something else out there, but as far as the Nazca lines
go; I have seen on more than one occaison that the OP forgets to add some anthropological context to go with the mystery of the lines.

If someone has mentioned this before I apologize (its a very long thread!)

This is purely from memory but when I was in grade 5 (i'm 19 now) i went to Peru and specifically went on an air craft tour of the lines complete
with a tour guide.

What I recall him saying was that they believe the lines were made by the Nascan civilization (pre-dated the Incan empire by about 600 years) and were
part of spiritual ceremonies and processions the people would do as a sort of worship to their deities. The Nascans would organize processions that
follow the lines of what we see now today, they would repeat this over and over and eventually make a trench which is visible from an aerial view. I
remeber the area being mostly flat-land which raises the questions of how they knew what they were doing (these things were massive, from ground it
looked like some small path leading off to nowhere) However, there were small mountains in the area and, in fact, the "moon-man" was on the side of
one such small mountain!

As to why they were made there is a common theme among cultures to have some sort of sky god or god that resides in the heavens. It is reasonable to
assume that the Nascans were making a sort of offering or sign to a god; specifically a water god.

The "spaceport" as it is dubbed is thought to be a sign to the gods that they need water (a river) and the widening at the base of the formation
indicates direction of where they want the water. If you dont know, the Nasca lines are out in a very dry region (essentially a desert) and I believe
the Nascan civilization is generally thought to have disappeared due to persistant drought.
The other lines and shapes are thought to of held similar religious symbolism to the Nascans.

There are still many mysteries surrounding the why and how these lines were created but with the inception of the recent insight into this ancient
civiliazation, I dont think the Nasca lines specifically indicate that ancient cultures were aware of extra-terrestrial life.

The precision with which the lines were created is baffeling, but hey, this is the area where several hundred years later they were making stone
temples with no seams between the slabs! And this was before they had proper tools to do so.

okay that is just not true. Travis spen some time on board an alien vessel and they had fishbowl like helmets. Find me your source that he was
"confirmed" being at a different location. Don't push your politics off on me pal

Originally posted by Boxygirl
okay that is just not true. Travis spen some time on board an alien vessel and they had fishbowl like helmets. Find me your source that he was
"confirmed" being at a different location. Don't push your politics off on me pal

I would give you the sources, but you wouldn't read them, your mind is made up.

The Above Top Secret Web site is a wholly owned social content community of The Above Network, LLC.

This content community relies on user-generated content from our member contributors. The opinions of our members are not those of site ownership who maintains strict editorial agnosticism and simply provides a collaborative venue for free expression.