#raspberrypi IRC Log

IRC Log for 2014-10-20

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[0:00]* troulouliou_dev (~troulouli@unaffiliated/troulouliou-dev/x-4757952) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[0:00]* steve_rox (~pi@82-69-127-162.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[0:01]<Sonny_Jim> (hint: you probably want a battery that can provide at least 400mAh)[0:01]<Sonny_Jim> I would then probably use a BEC (battery eliminator circuit) from an RC car/plane to step up/step down the voltage for the Pi[0:04]* skylite (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[0:05]* skylite (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) has joined #raspberrypi[0:05]* Mikelevel (~MoVeWoRk@unaffiliated/mikelevel) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[0:05]* codepython777 (~kp@c-69-244-213-227.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[0:08]* abnormal (~abnormal@213.sub-70-209-133.myvzw.com) has joined #raspberrypi[0:08]* GentileBen (~RaycisCha@cpc5-lutn10-2-0-cust681.9-3.cable.virginm.net) Quit ()[0:10]* girafe (~girafe@AGrenoble-651-1-417-232.w90-52.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #raspberrypi[0:11]* owen_ (~owen@180.200.150.71) has joined #raspberrypi[0:11]* plugwash (~plugwash@151.229.190.251) has joined #raspberrypi[0:12]* mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[0:14]* skylite (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[0:15]<niston> hobbyking has some good, cheap ones ;)[0:15]* skylite (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) has joined #raspberrypi[0:16]* skylite_ (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) Quit (Quit: My Mac Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[0:17]* tidux (~jon@24.1.246.217) has joined #raspberrypi[0:17]<tidux> any news on Maynard? the git repo seems pretty dead[0:18]* mang0 is now known as mang0|AFK[0:18]<steve_rox> name sounds famiuler not sure why[0:19]<steve_rox> whats it do[0:19]<tidux> it's the new Wayland desktop shell for raspbian that's in the works[0:19]<steve_rox> oh right that did seem interesting[0:19]<tidux> https://github.com/raspberrypi/maynard/wiki[0:19]<steve_rox> i think nvidia or some big company was talking about supporting it[0:19]<tidux> looks like the last commit was two months ago[0:20]<tidux> steve_rox: nah, that's wayland itself[0:20]<tidux> maynard is just one desktop that could use libwayland[0:20]<steve_rox> oh right[0:20]<steve_rox> still would be interesting for fps performance wise[0:20]<tidux> wayland (the protocol/library), weston (the reference implementation) and maynard are all named after towns in eastern Massachusetts[0:20]<tidux> so I can understand the confusion[0:21]<steve_rox> they love their werid names[0:21]<steve_rox> seems to be a trend these days[0:21]<steve_rox> name something werid to imply they are cool[0:21]<Sonny_Jim> At least they didn't go for "Kit Kat"[0:21]<tidux> nah, nerds have always had weird names for things[0:21]<Sonny_Jim> or "Mars bar"[0:21]<steve_rox> alough ms screwed up with xbox one name[0:22]<Sonny_Jim> Oh for sure[0:22]<tidux> a lot of the odd traditions go back decades in the unix world[0:22]<tidux> alright, looks like nobody's heard anything, I'll check back later[0:22]* tidux (~jon@24.1.246.217) has left #raspberrypi[0:22]<steve_rox> next thing ya know ms will name something crazy on windows[0:23]<steve_rox> windows fat pie[0:23]* GrimKriegor (~GrimKrieg@a79-169-136-76.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #raspberrypi[0:24]* azizLIGHT (~azizLIGHT@unaffiliated/azizlight) Quit (Quit: leaving)[0:26]<freebeer> xorg has a 'zaphod mode' which must come from this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaphod_Beeblebrox[0:29]* azizLIGHT (~azizLIGHT@unaffiliated/azizlight) has joined #raspberrypi[0:29]* Tach[Eorzea] is now known as Tachyon`[0:31]* mpmc (~mpmc@unaffiliated/mpmc) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[0:34]* skylite (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[0:34]* skylite (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) has joined #raspberrypi[0:37]* skylite (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) Quit (Client Quit)[0:37]* mpmc (~mpmc@unaffiliated/mpmc) has joined #raspberrypi[0:38]* skylite (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) has joined #raspberrypi[0:39]* skylite (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) Quit (Client Quit)[0:40]* skylite (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) has joined #raspberrypi[0:40]* skylite (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) Quit (Client Quit)[0:42]* Textmode (~boneidle@adsl-1-au-2-174.ozonline.com.au) has joined #raspberrypi[0:42]* wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) Quit (Quit: I just broke my connection, but no worries, we can rebuild it. We have the technology.)[0:43]* btcNeverSleeps (6d818152@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.129.129.82) has joined #raspberrypi[0:43]* iceCalt (~iceCalt@p5DDCDB1A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[0:47]* mikepparks (~mikeppark@173-228-71-193.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[0:50]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[0:50]<btcNeverSleeps> I already played a bit with a Pi and love it: it's now serving as a VoIP "thinggy" using FreePBX/Asterisk. I was now thinking about buying another one but I'd need WiFi in a place which my laptop doesn't get any WiFi anymore... Are there really good WiFi antennas which do actually really extend the range/gain ?[0:51]<btcNeverSleeps> The size of the antenna doesn't really matter: it would be for a RaspBerry Pi I'd leave in a barn. There's electricity but ethernet over electricity is out of question (not my call).[0:51]<btcNeverSleeps> So I was thinking about putting some WiFi card to the RaspBerry and using a big antenna. Does such a thing exist?[0:51]* mikepparks (~mikeppark@173-228-71-193.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) has joined #raspberrypi[0:51]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi[0:52]<abnormal> get the Ourlink one from Adafruit.com that looks like a thumbdrive dongle, not the mini one...[0:53]* kd7jwc (~shantorn@67-5-219-233.ptld.qwest.net) has joined #raspberrypi[0:56]<btcNeverSleeps> abnormal: do you know if these things get better WiFi range than, say, a regular laptop's WiFi?[0:59]* MidnighToker (~Toker@unaffiliated/midnightoker) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[0:59]* Geography2014 (~Geography@195.216.44.14) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[1:00]<abnormal> the Ourlink is made for the pi... it is very powerful and picks up neighbor's wifi, about 5 of them.. so yeah, it will do just fine...[1:01]<abnormal> if you want more reception, then browse for wifi antennas in a browser...[1:02]<abnormal> some gurus look for old discarded TV satelite dishes and convert them into "ultimate" antennas...[1:03]* utack (~utack@ip9234d056.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[1:03]<btcNeverSleeps> abnormal: ah you have one, nice... And what about your laptop (if you have one at home)? Does your laptop also pick those 5 neighbour's WiFi? I don't need much of a "gain": my MacBook goes 3/4 of the way to the barn but then loses WiFi...[1:04]<btcNeverSleeps> lol, I'm not much of an antenna guru: I'm after some parts that would work. Anyway: doesn't look that expensive so I'll buy one and see what gives, thanks for the tip : )[1:04]* kiely_elsewhere is now known as kiely[1:04]<abnormal> I have 4 of them and not one has disappointed me...[1:06]<abnormal> but the ones that are called "WiPi" have failed, yet almost as powerful as the Ourlink ones...[1:06]<btcNeverSleeps> I'll go for the OurLink ones. Sounds great.[1:07]<btcNeverSleeps> does it require much configuration or does this pretty much work out of the box?[1:07]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[1:07]<Sonny_Jim> Bear in mind that WiFi is two way communication[1:07]<Sonny_Jim> It's no good if one station can hear and the other can't[1:08]<Sonny_Jim> (You'll need good antennas on both router and receiver)[1:08]* kd7jwc (~shantorn@67-5-219-233.ptld.qwest.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[1:08]<btcNeverSleeps> Sonny_Jim: geez... I didn't know that. Good to know obviously.[1:09]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi[1:09]<CoJaBo__> ..there is a pulsing, colored blob in the corner of the screen.. is there a way to turn that off?[1:09]* SiC (Simon@94.174.32.194) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[1:10]<abnormal> o o... looks like you have an alien in the SD card...[1:11]* kd7jwc (~shantorn@67-5-219-233.ptld.qwest.net) has joined #raspberrypi[1:11]<Mr_Sheesh> Screen saver or ??? It'd help a lot, I imagine, if people knew what you're running that gives you that? (Not all RPi OS's are Raspian :P)[1:13]* shivers (~shivers@c80-216-59-240.bredband.comhem.se) Quit (Quit: Leaving is dying a little...)[1:13]<CoJaBo__> It's just raspian, running omxplayer. No GUI[1:14]* PovAddict (~nicolas@kde/developer/nalvarez) has joined #raspberrypi[1:16]<CoJaBo__> ..ok, the square isn't part of omxplayer even, it shows even when just sitting at the terminal[1:16]<CoJaBo__> wtf?[1:17]<abnormal> in which corner?[1:17]<CoJaBo__> Top right[1:18]<CoJaBo__> Fades in ant out at random, stays on solid when omxplayer is playing, but flashes again when paused[1:18]* btcNeverSleeps (6d818152@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.129.129.82) Quit (Quit: Page closed)[1:19]<abnormal> hmmm.. puzzling one... ask shiftplusone, he's experienced in this situation...[1:19]* PovAddict (~nicolas@kde/developer/nalvarez) has left #raspberrypi[1:21]<CoJaBo__> finally found the magic words to get google to tell me I need to set avoid_warnings=2 in config.txt[1:22]<abnormal> nice.. good...[1:22]<CoJaBo__> I ran 37 different google searches for this >_>[1:23]* Wryness (~Wryness@gateway/tor-sasl/lunario) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[1:23]<abnormal> cool.. yeh, it does take time to find what you need...[1:24]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[1:27]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi[1:27]* lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk[1:39]* snuffeluffegus (~snuff@5.150.254.180) has joined #raspberrypi[1:42]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[1:42]* chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) Quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)[1:43]* Hydra_ (~Hydra@87.81.201.143) Quit (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Po-ta-to, boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew.)[1:43]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi[1:44]* codepython777 (~codepytho@c-69-244-213-227.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[1:45]* hyperair (~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[1:48]* osxdude|MBP (~osxdude@unaffiliated/osxdude) has joined #raspberrypi[1:48]* githogori (~githogori@98.207.180.226) has joined #raspberrypi[1:53]* githogori (~githogori@98.207.180.226) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[1:53]* Macuser (~textual@unaffiliated/macuser) has joined #raspberrypi[1:53]* githogori (~githogori@98.207.180.226) has joined #raspberrypi[1:58]* Stealthy (~stealthy@pdpc/supporter/active/stealthy) has joined #raspberrypi[1:59]* osxdude|MBP (~osxdude@unaffiliated/osxdude) Quit (Quit: Smell ya later. Time to sleep. Hold the phone. Don't dial the emergency number.)[2:00]<evil_dan2wik> hmm[2:00]<evil_dan2wik> so I have kernel panics turned off and I have been playing with my Pi on slightly unstable OC settings[2:01]<evil_dan2wik> and today, the Pi decided to connect and attempt to DoS the router...[2:05]<evil_dan2wik> seems like a load of random data and then the Pi crashed[2:08]* kamdard (~kamdard@pool-173-57-39-202.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[2:10]* Syliss (~Home2@dpncorp1.digitalpath.net) Quit (Quit: Syliss)[2:14]<ShorTie> interesting, don't see how the 2 would corolate though[2:19]* knob (~knob@70.45.23.117) has joined #raspberrypi[2:20]* bbrks (~bbrks@host-2-103-168-109.as13285.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[2:20]* codepython777 (~codepytho@c-69-244-213-227.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[2:20]* girafe (~girafe@AGrenoble-651-1-417-232.w90-52.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[2:23]* theaftermath (~theafterm@unaffiliated/theaftermath) has 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Time to sleep. Hold the phone. Don't dial the emergency number.)[4:13]<Caleo> say I've got a critical task the Pi needs to handle above all else.. but some other, potentially heavily demanding tasks are running.. what's the best way to ensure the critical process runs?[4:13]<skyroveRR> Caleo: depends on that "critical task".[4:14]<Caleo> basically controlling some I/O to make sure a reservoir doesn't overflow[4:15]<skyroveRR> Haven't taken the pi that far..[4:15]<Caleo> I know people do it[4:16]<evil_dan2wik> Caleo, CPU or memory?[4:16]<Caleo> both I guess[4:16]<evil_dan2wik> because, I am pretty sure you can set things to a higher CPU priority[4:16]<Caleo> mainly cpu, friend's worried about running a web server on his pi and controlling his hydroponic garden at the same time[4:19]<Caleo> I've been telling him priority should be all he needs, but if he's really worried about it, he can halt the webserver while a critical task is being performed (ie, filling)[4:20]<plugwash> Linux has mechanisms for setting priorities but those won't save you if a buggy driver decides to hog the CPU with interrupts disabled[4:20]* pklaus (~pklaus@p20030051453D610002C008FFFE88220F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[4:20]* owlsoap (~owlsoap@h136n10-vb-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[4:20]<plugwash> Personally i'm a beliver in KISS, if something overflowing was going to do real damage I wouldn't want to rely on a device with an OS to control it unless I really had to[4:21]<evil_dan2wik> I thought most hydroponic farms were for drugs[4:22]* leichtgewicht (~leichtgew@p21153-ipngn100302kobeminato.hyogo.ocn.ne.jp) Quit ()[4:25]<oldtopman> evil_dan2wik: Yep.[4:25]* x1337807x (~x1337807x@50.246.252.131) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[4:25]<oldtopman> Caleo: Throw in a hardwired-cutoff. A float switch connected to whatever you're using to fill it up should be sufficient.[4:26]* pklaus (~pklaus@p200300514518DA0002C008FFFE88220F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[4:26]<evil_dan2wik> or, a simple overflow[4:26]<evil_dan2wik> plus, the Pi shouldn't be too delayed[4:26]<evil_dan2wik> probably max a second or 2[4:26]* winlu (~winlu@unaffiliated/winlu) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[4:27]<evil_dan2wik> Worst case is the program crashes[4:29]<abnormal> never had any crashes on pi, on BBB yes...[4:31]* NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@wf-171-99-180-238.revip9.asianet.co.th) has joined #raspberrypi[4:33]<oldtopman> Doesn't matter in the slightest. A real safety switch when real safety is needed.[4:33]<oldtopman> You could toss me a 3year uptime linux box and I'd still throw a overflow sensor on it.[4:34]<evil_dan2wik> get a simple arduino and interface with it using SPI[4:34]<oldtopman> What if the motor controller gets stuck on as the relays wear, or any other random disasters.[4:34]<evil_dan2wik> that way, your arduino can't crash if you do it right[4:34]<evil_dan2wik> and you can run whatever you need on the Pi[4:34]<Caleo> oldtopman: well yeah... he's definitely doing redundancy[4:34]<oldtopman> Heck, just get a NC float switch and run the motor through that.[4:35]<oldtopman> Caleo: If apache is going to hang your motor-controller, I'm not hearing a lot of redundancy there :P[4:36]<evil_dan2wik> tell the arduino what to do[4:36]<evil_dan2wik> "Run pump 3 seconds, report levels"[4:37]* GIANT_CR1 (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/giant-crab/x-5804277) has joined #raspberrypi[4:38]* GIANT_CRAB (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/giant-crab/x-5804277) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[4:40]* winlu (~winlu@unaffiliated/winlu) has joined #raspberrypi[4:45]* kd7jwc (~shantorn@67-5-219-233.ptld.qwest.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[4:45]* plugwash (~plugwash@151.229.190.251) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[4:47]* yeticry (~yeticry@114.96.139.102) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[4:47]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[4:47]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi[4:48]* yeticry (~yeticry@114.96.139.102) has joined #raspberrypi[4:52]* Macuser (~textual@unaffiliated/macuser) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Does anyone have a clue on a solution for this ever repeating boot message? "FAT-fs (mmcblk0p5): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck."...Running fsck always returns: "There are differences between boot sector and its backup".[6:39]* XpineX (~XpineX@87-58-1-213-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[6:42]<evil_dan2wik> _gabriel_, usually it is harmless most times, it just means that the Pi wasn't shut down properly[6:42]<evil_dan2wik> You need to reset the dirty flag on the volume[6:45]* fatalhalt (~fatalhalt@c-71-201-7-76.hsd1.il.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[6:50]* MrMobius (~Joey@c-98-223-189-47.hsd1.in.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[6:53]* JlRd (~jlrd@ip68-110-113-182.ph.ph.cox.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[6:55]* codepython777 (~kp@c-69-244-213-227.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[6:57]* saline (~irenacob@li629-190.members.linode.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[6:58]* joobcode (~joobcode@156-231.197-178.cust.bluewin.ch) has joined #raspberrypi[6:58]* saline (~irenacob@li629-190.members.linode.com) has joined #raspberrypi[6:58]* linuxstb (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) has joined #raspberrypi[7:02]<_gabriel_> So, is it totally safe to leave it in that way? Cause I've found it impossible to clear the dirty flag.[7:03]* oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) Quit (Quit: *pouf*)[7:03]* GIANT_CRAB (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/giant-crab/x-5804277) has joined #raspberrypi[7:03]* joobcode (~joobcode@156-231.197-178.cust.bluewin.ch) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[7:04]* theshado_ (~theshadow@24.8.4.50) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[7:05]* codepython777 (~kp@69.244.213.227) has joined #raspberrypi[7:08]* iamjarvo (~textual@c-69-249-187-177.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Always.)[11:57]<Sonny_Jim> Hmm[11:57]* govg (~govg@unaffiliated/govg) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:57]<Sonny_Jim> SDL2 and OpenGL ES[11:57]* Sonny_Jim scratches head[11:59]* Stealthy (~stealthy@pdpc/supporter/active/stealthy) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[11:59]* govg (~govg@unaffiliated/govg) has joined #raspberrypi[12:00]* Stealthy (~stealthy@pdpc/supporter/active/stealthy) has joined #raspberrypi[12:01]* kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[12:01]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[12:01]* AndrevS (~andrevs@2001:982:27e5:1:225:b3ff:fec0:41e1) has joined #raspberrypi[12:02]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi[12:03]* taza (~taza@unaffiliated/taza) has joined #raspberrypi[12:03]* chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi[12:05]* MY123 (uid37100@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzlsoiggwzuguwbi) has joined #raspberrypi[12:08]<gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, getting anywhere?[12:09]* saline (~irenacob@li629-190.members.linode.com) Quit (Max SendQ exceeded)[12:09]* qlex1 (~Wojciech_@adhe81.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[12:09]* hurgh_afk is now known as hurgh[12:09]* qlex1 says hi[12:10]<qlex1> if i'm struggling with getting btsync on Rpi's raspbian up and running - is this a good place to ask ?[12:10]<qlex1> it always worked, but for somereason, after starting the service, i cannot open it on my browser[12:10]* saline (~irenacob@li629-190.members.linode.com) has joined #raspberrypi[12:10]<gordonDrogon> it might be - as long as there is someone here who knows about bt[12:11]* JlRd (~jlrd@ip68-110-113-182.ph.ph.cox.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[12:12]<qlex1> service is runing, it gets its PID number and assigned port, but when i go to ip_of_rpi:8888 i'm getting the standard browser's (after connecting), it wasnt possible to establishconnection[12:15]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:16]<evil_dan2wik> qlex1, what browser?[12:17]<Sonny_Jim> gordonDrogon: Nope[12:17]<Sonny_Jim> Let me double check that I've compiled SDL2 correctly[12:17]<Sonny_Jim> Software rendering works fine[12:18]<Sonny_Jim> #define SDL_VIDEO_DRIVER_RPI 1[12:18]<qlex1> evil_dan2wik: firefox 33.0[12:18]<Sonny_Jim> #define SDL_VIDEO_OPENGL_ES2 1[12:18]<evil_dan2wik> ok[12:18]<evil_dan2wik> should be fine[12:18]<qlex1> same on all browser[12:18]<qlex1> s[12:19]<Sonny_Jim> So It looks like it's configured properly. I'm doing bcm_host_init () as well, so not sure why[12:19]<qlex1> so its rather something on the pi[12:19]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[12:19]<evil_dan2wik> qlex1, you able to access the port from inside the Pi?[12:21]<qlex1> give me a hint how ?[12:21]* owen_ (~owen@180.200.150.71) Quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:21]* oxhak (~OxHaK@ns330132.ip-37-59-37.eu) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[12:21]* grammoboy (~derick@5ED69612.cm-7-7c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #raspberrypi[12:22]<grammoboy> hm after enabling external soundcard and plugin my usb behringer soundcard, usb doesn't seems to work in raspbian anymore[12:23]* ThKo (~ThKo@ip-95-222-146-171.hsi15.unitymediagroup.de) has joined #raspberrypi[12:23]<Sonny_Jim> Powered hub?[12:24]<grammoboy> no[12:24]<ShorTie> model B or B+ ??[12:24]<qlex1> evil_dan2wik: what do you mean by access the port from inside the Pi?[12:24]<grammoboy> B+[12:25]<evil_dan2wik> qlex1, like, wget ip_of_rpi:8888[12:25]<ShorTie> i think the B+ shutsdown the usb if you overdraw the current[12:26]<ShorTie> so Sonny_Jim maybe on the right track with a powered hub[12:26]<ShorTie> or, what is the current output of your power adapter ??[12:26]<grammoboy> after reboot, no usb is working[12:26]<grammoboy> no keyboard no wifi[12:27]<grammoboy> even without audio card plugged in[12:27]<grammoboy> 5.2v[12:27]<ShorTie> current not voltage[12:27]<grammoboy> i have no idea[12:27]* Sonny_Jim (~pi@host86-135-228-30.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[12:27]<ShorTie> not printed on it ??[12:29]<grammoboy> 5.2V/2.0A - 10 Watt[12:29]<evil_dan2wik> grammoboy, 10.4 watt[12:30]<ShorTie> ok, thats good[12:30]<grammoboy> http://www.kiwi-electronics.nl/microusb-voeding-5V2-2A[12:30]* Sonny_Jim (~pi@host86-135-228-30.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi[12:30]<ShorTie> did you do the config.txt hack to enable full usb power ??[12:30]<grammoboy> no[12:31]<grammoboy> should i do that?[12:31]<ShorTie> might want to research that 1, sorry do not know it off the top of my head[12:31]<gordonDrogon> the usb port on the B+ is current limited - 600mA by default, but this can be extended to 1.2amps.[12:32]<gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/testing-setting-the-usb-current-limiter-on-the-raspberry-pi-b/[12:32]<qlex1> evil_dan2wik: hmm, not! im getting: ..... Connection with ..... 192.x.x.x:8888..... failed: Connection refused[12:33]<evil_dan2wik> so then the service isn't running properly/at all[12:35]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:35]* harish (~harish@175.156.55.124) has joined #raspberrypi[12:35]<ShorTie> fyi qlex1, network 192.168.x.x is purely local, so does not matter if you post it, no way to get to it from internet[12:36]<qlex1> ShorTie: im on the same local network, and cant open this[12:36]<grammoboy> but why is usb not working at all anymore?[12:36]<grammoboy> and how to fix that?[12:36]<evil_dan2wik> qlex1, try localhost:8888[12:37]<qlex1> evil_dan2wik: same thing[12:37]<ShorTie> grammoboy, might what to try un-doing what ever you did for 'enabling external soundcard'[12:37]<evil_dan2wik> well then, the same thing stands, the service isn't running properly/at all[12:37]* skylite (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) has joined 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(~pi@host86-135-228-30.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:44]<ShorTie> oh, got me[12:44]<ShorTie> got another sdcard ??[12:44]<grammoboy> yep, will try that one first[12:45]<ShorTie> most likely you could boot up to that 1, then mount the other and go in and un-do it[12:46]<ShorTie> or just re-image it and start over[12:46]<grammoboy> how can you mount such thing?[12:46]<ShorTie> about my only 2 idea's[12:46]* Encrypt (~Chuck-nor@AMontsouris-553-1-72-134.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #raspberrypi[12:47]<ShorTie> make a directory some where like fixit[12:48]<ShorTie> then 'mount /devsda2 fixit', cd fixit/whereever, un-do your stuff[12:48]* Sonny_Jim (~pi@host86-135-228-30.range86-135.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi[12:48]<ShorTie> then cd.. back up to fixit and 'umount fixit'[12:48]<grammoboy> how does that work with sd cards?[12:49]<grammoboy> how do I connect it to the booted device[12:49]<grammoboy> hardware wise[12:49]<ShorTie> has nothing todo with sdcards, it is linux[12:49]<grammoboy> I know how to mount an usb drive, but you need a usb cable[12:49]<grammoboy> what kind of cable do I need now?[12:50]<ShorTie> not a cable, just a sdcard reader is all[12:51]<grammoboy> ah ok, you mean mount it in your laptop for instance[12:51]<ShorTie> sure if it linux, but the pi will work too...[12:52]<grammoboy> or can I remove the sd card from the rpi after boot?[12:52]<ShorTie> if you got another sdcard to boot from that is[12:52]<ShorTie> no, but messed up sdcard in usb reader and plug that into the pi[12:52]<ShorTie> put*[12:53]<grammoboy> ah ok, I don't have such a thing[12:53]<grammoboy> but I've mount it in my laptop now[12:53]<ShorTie> oh, okie dokie[12:53]<grammoboy> but nothing I find in the config.txt about external cards[12:55]<ShorTie> what did you do to enable that 'external sound cards', that is what you need to un-do i think[12:55]<grammoboy> on raspian I can plugin in all my usb stuff without problems it seems[12:55]<grammoboy> it installed alsa software afaik[12:56]<ShorTie> oh[12:56]<ShorTie> so it wasn't a simple config change then ??[12:57]<grammoboy> I did it from the gui[12:57]* kamdard (~kamdard@pool-173-57-39-202.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[12:57]* Tachyon` is now known as Tach[Out][12:57]<grammoboy> so I'm ignorant about what it really did[12:57]<grammoboy> but it told me it installed alsa and needed to reboot[12:58]<ShorTie> sortta sounds like a re-imaging is the only way back to me[12:58]<ShorTie> then[12:58]* twikz (~twikz@p200300750F59E9005CD1FD9BEB39CFAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[12:59]<Sonny_Jim> Bah[12:59]<Sonny_Jim> So *some* of the SDL2 test program work[13:00]* hyperair (hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) Quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[13:01]* skylite (~skylite@178.48.4.145) has joined #raspberrypi[13:01]* ijustam (~ijustam@209.43.1.25) has joined #raspberrypi[13:02]* dreamon 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Wanted to buy a sd card for Model B. Just a question: does anyone know what is max read/write speed that Pi can acheive for any sd card..?operate[13:44]<evil_dan2wik> 100MB/s is max[13:44]<evil_dan2wik> not really though[13:45]<evil_dan2wik> people dream of those speeds[13:45]<evil_dan2wik> Mine only goes 5MB/s[13:45]<MY123> evil_dan2wik: Attained 80MB/s with a 1V8 voltage switcher[13:45]<MY123> (UHS-I speeds)[13:45]<lazy_prince> I know that cards are available which can be read and written at 95MBps.. but is pi able to reach that limit..?[13:45]<evil_dan2wik> k[13:46]<MY123> lazy_prince: The problem is that UHS-I modes needs 1V8, so there should also be an external SD voltage switcher[13:47]<MY123> In the SoC, yes.[13:47]* skylite (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) has joined #raspberrypi[13:48]<lazy_prince> aha.. I want to use the card for booting and running retropie and was checking if i am not overspending on cards by going after speed..[13:49]<MY123> lazy_prince: With a custom Compute Module design , yes[13:49]* NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@wf-171-99-180-238.revip9.asianet.co.th) has joined #raspberrypi[13:49]<MY123> (Class 4 cards are the best)[13:49]* Icicle_Trepan is now known as IcicleTrepan[13:49]<lazy_prince> I plan to use just a Rpi model b. no computes modules..[13:49]<MY123> lazy_prince: Class 6[13:50]<MY123> ( anything more is overkill[13:50]<MY123> )[13:50]<iceCalt> hue[13:50]<lazy_prince> aha.. i was planning for class 10 but if class 6 will do, then thats good for me..[13:51]* skylite (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) Quit (Client Quit)[13:52]* killer_prince (~killer_pr@122.172.133.124) Quit (Excess Flood)[13:52]* lazy_prince (lazy_princ@nat/hp/x-yrhbxqmusynogihu) Quit (Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de)[13:53]* kiely_elsewhere is now known as kiely[13:54]* skylite (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) has joined #raspberrypi[13:54]* lazy_prince (~killer_pr@122.172.133.124) has joined #raspberrypi[13:54]* skylite (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) Quit (Client Quit)[13:56]<MY123> lazy_prince: Try the official Raspberry Pi uSD card[13:56]* tanuva (~tanuva@HSI-KBW-46-223-74-85.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) has joined #raspberrypi[13:57]* skylite (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) has joined #raspberrypi[13:57]* anunnaki (~chris@unaffiliated/anunnaki) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)[13:57]<lazy_prince> I want it quick and in India, the delivery is bit slow.. Will try to get it from local store..[13:57]* skylite (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[13:58]* skylite (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) has joined #raspberrypi[13:59]* Macuser (~textual@unaffiliated/macuser) has joined #raspberrypi[14:01]* qlex1 (~Wojciech_@adhe81.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) has left #raspberrypi[14:04]* iamjarvo (~textual@c-69-249-187-177.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[14:04]* shlunko (~shlunko@cpc65149-nmal17-2-0-cust880.19-2.cable.virginm.net) Quit ()[14:07]<lazy_prince> another doubt: is there any speed limit on USB Pen drives..?[14:07]* skylite_ (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) has joined #raspberrypi[14:08]<SpeedEvil> yes[14:08]<SpeedEvil> Dpeendant on the drive[14:08]<SpeedEvil> some will easily saturate USB2[14:09]* Wryness (~Wryness@gateway/tor-sasl/lunario) has joined #raspberrypi[14:09]<ShorTie> i's think any usb-3 pen drive would be a waste[14:09]* Macuser (~textual@unaffiliated/macuser) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[14:10]<lazy_prince> At present, i use a WD 1TB 5400rpm usb disk but if USB pen drives provide better numbers, i can use them too.. of-course a smaller size (32GB)[14:11]* iamjarvo (~textual@c-69-249-187-177.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) Quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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megabytes/s[14:26]<SpeedEvil> Or perhaps a little less on the pi[14:26]<krabban> Hello[14:26]<lazy_prince> aha.. so I am already getting that much speed.. looks like no reason to switch to USB pen drives..[14:27]* samrat (~samrat@49.244.120.62) has joined #raspberrypi[14:27]* Encrypt (~Chuck-nor@AMontsouris-553-1-72-134.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #raspberrypi[14:28]<grammoboy> strange, my edimax usb wifi hub doesn't work anymore as it seems[14:28]<grammoboy> not anymore in raspbian[14:28]<grammoboy> and now raspbmc doesn't connect to wifi either[14:37]* tiktuk (~tiktuk@2-111-46-230-static.dk.customer.tdc.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[14:42]* skylite_ (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[14:43]* mythos (~mythos@unaffiliated/mythos) has joined #raspberrypi[14:44]* Tachyon` is now known as Tach[Out][14:44]* skylite (~skylite@business-178-48-4-145.business.broadband.hu) has joined #raspberrypi[14:48]* 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so[17:30]<Kirito> yeah[17:31]<Sonny_Jim> Your swap will only ever go as fast as the USB bus, so you may as well just use a swap file on the SD[17:31]<Kirito> Well that would add additional wear on the SD[17:31]<Kirito> So it's still probably better to avoid that[17:31]* MY123 (uid37100@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bzlsoiggwzuguwbi) Quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[17:31]<Kirito> But I'd guess setting up a small amount of ZRAM could probably help[17:32]<Kirito> Since I doubt the CPU overhead is going to be nearly as much of a bottleneck[17:32]<Sonny_Jim> If you are using large amounts of swap, then the standard answer is to use a different platform[17:33]<Kirito> It's XBMC that's swapping right now, maybe that's because I'm using too much of a bloated theme[17:33]<Kirito> though I thought that only used video memory[17:34]<Sonny_Jim> Then allocate some more video memory[17:34]<Kirito> It's not video memory that's constrained, I have 192MB of video memory and that's fine[17:34]<Sonny_Jim> errr[17:34]<Sonny_Jim> You realise where that video memory comes from?[17:34]<Kirito> RAM[17:34]<Kirito> yes[17:35]<Sonny_Jim> So what happens when RAM runs low?[17:35]<Sonny_Jim> (hint: Swap gets used)[17:35]<Kirito> XBMC crashes, I'm saying I'm not sure what's causing the excessive memory usage[17:35]<Kirito> Or, well, yes, now SWAP gets used[17:36]* RayS (~RaySl@CPE00180a11ce69-CMbc1401e39540.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined #raspberrypi[17:37]<Kirito> I'm assuming it probably is the skin utilizing RAM elsewhere, I probably just need to trim it down a bit or get a better skin instead[17:39]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:39]* a7x (~found@unaffiliated/a7x) has joined #raspberrypi[17:42]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi[17:45]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:48]* amigojapan 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ZZZzzz…)[19:02]* DK-MODE (~Chad_Coop@80.71.26.65) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[19:02]* hyperair (~hyperair@ubuntu/member/hyperair) has joined #raspberrypi[19:05]* x1337807x (~x1337807x@207-170-205-178.static.twtelecom.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:06]* red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-114-159.dynamic.qsc.de) Quit (Quit: Verlassend)[19:07]<[Saint]> Sonny_Jim: trying as well - and, nope.[19:07]<[Saint]> I'm interested in SDL2 to allow for GPU assisted decodign and encoding in Rockbox on the pi.[19:09]* tanuva (~tanuva@2a02:8071:29c1:7500:f15b:1882:b6e2:86a7) has joined #raspberrypi[19:09]* dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) has joined #raspberrypi[19:10]<gordonDrogon> I'm intersted too, but I'm not sure it will speedup my application. however having a scalable root window will be an advantage.[19:10]* ThKo (~ThKo@p50873018.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit (Quit: ThKo)[19:11]* red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-114-159.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #raspberrypi[19:12]* [Saint] isn't really sure that the speedup it may offer his is even worth it.[19:12]<[Saint]> We decode flac at 1200% realtime in 7MHz on the pi.[19:13]<[Saint]> mp3 at ~1100% realtime in 8MHz.[19:13]<[Saint]> Its more of an educational excercise. The gains aren't really worth it.[19:13]<[Saint]> We're about as optimized as we can possibly be.[19:14]* tanuva (~tanuva@2a02:8071:29c1:7500:f15b:1882:b6e2:86a7) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[19:14]<[Saint]> Years and years and years of dealing with ARM based SoCs in DAPs, with MUCH more restricted systems.[19:15]<Sonny_Jim> It's really quite annoying[19:15]<Sonny_Jim> can get the test apps from SDL2 to work[19:16]<Sonny_Jim> I can do GetRendererInfo and it tells me that opengles2 is supported[19:16]* tanuva (~tanuva@2a02:8071:29c1:7500:c433:81df:a912:8dc3) has joined #raspberrypi[19:16]<[Saint]> Heh. Sounds like you're about where I'm at.[19:17]<[Saint]> I pick this up pretty rarely, though.[19:17]<[Saint]> There's only so much bashing my head against a desk trying different things with the same outcome I can take.[19:18]<Sonny_Jim> Sure[19:19]* SiC (Simon@cpc12-aztw24-2-0-cust193.aztw.cable.virginm.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:19]<Sonny_Jim> It's really quite irritating to see SDL2 promote "Oh, we have an RPi driver that works" only to find it doesn't[19:19]<Sonny_Jim> So far I've tried under X, FB, different bpp[19:19]<[Saint]> see also: Broadcom's Android implementation.[19:20]<[Saint]> "Hey, look, we have Android running using GPU acceleration - but, you can't!"[19:20]<SpeedEvil> ShorTie: nothing - I just thought that was interesting[19:20]<[Saint]> It wouldn't have been so bad if RPF didn't do a big hoohah and proclaim "Android is coming!"[19:21]<[Saint]> I bet someone got shot for that.[19:21]<[Saint]> And/or slightly chastised.[19:21]<[Saint]> Whatevs.[19:22]* red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-114-159.dynamic.qsc.de) Quit (Quit: Verlassend)[19:23]<ShorTie> yes it is[19:23]<Sonny_Jim> I basically need to figure out why testdraw2 and testgles2 works but my app doesn't[19:23]<Sonny_Jim> Do I still need to do the bcm_host_init () thing?[19:23]<[Saint]> afaik, yes.[19:23]<[Saint]> But I'm stumbling around in the dark mostly.[19:24]* Hydra_ (~Hydra@5751c98f.skybroadband.com) has joined #raspberrypi[19:24]<Sonny_Jim> Same[19:24]<Sonny_Jim> Looking at testdraw2 it doesn't need it[19:24]* red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-114-159.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #raspberrypi[19:26]* Encrypt (~Chuck-nor@AMontsouris-553-1-72-134.w92-151.abo.wanadoo.fr) Quit (Quit: Quitte)[19:27]* cccyRegeaneWolfe (~cccyRegea@210.23.18.199) Quit (Quit: Ping Timeout)[19:28]<mikroskeem> hi, anyone remembers when i complained my tp-link wifi stick doesn't work?[19:28]<mikroskeem> i got it fixed by installing 3.17.1 kernel :)[19:29]<mikroskeem> also, i can access both i2c bus-es[19:29]<mikroskeem> with new kernel[19:29]* amigojapan (~amigojapa@c119045.net21845.cablenet.ne.jp) Quit (Quit: amigojapan)[19:29]* red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-114-159.dynamic.qsc.de) Quit (Quit: Verlassend)[19:29]* red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-114-159.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #raspberrypi[19:30]<[Saint]> mikroskeem: you could've just, y'know, installed the driver for it.[19:30]<[Saint]> http://elinux.org/RPi_USB_Wi-Fi_Adapters[19:30]<[Saint]> ctrl+f; TP-link[19:30]* amigojapan (~amigojapa@c119045.net21845.cablenet.ne.jp) has joined #raspberrypi[19:30]<[Saint]> The V1 version will work out of the box on any kernel.[19:31]<[Saint]> The V2 needs some slight encouragement.[19:31]<[Saint]> Or, did.[19:31]<[Saint]> (with older kernels)[19:31]<Sonny_Jim> Ah I see[19:31]<Sonny_Jim> testdraw2 works because it's using the software renderer[19:31]* [Saint] apologizes for not being around and/or not seeing your request[19:32]<[Saint]> I could've guided you through that easily[19:32]<[Saint]> But...you've got it sorted out now.[19:32]<mikroskeem> [Saint]: it was the buggy tp-link stick[19:32]<mikroskeem> know to not working[19:32]<mikroskeem> le me take model number[19:32]<[Saint]> WN725N?[19:32]<mikroskeem> TL-WN821N[19:33]<[Saint]> aha.[19:33]<[Saint]> That should work out of the box on any kernel as well.[19:33]<[Saint]> I suspect you had some other issue.[19:34]<mikroskeem> *the buggy one*[19:34]<[Saint]> Either way, glad you got it sorted.[19:34]<mikroskeem> scroll down[19:34]* girafe (~girafe@AGrenoble-651-1-417-232.w90-52.abo.wanadoo.fr) has joined #raspberrypi[19:34]<shiftplusone> mikroskeem, were you the one interested in the kernel upstreaming effort a while back?[19:34]* red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-114-159.dynamic.qsc.de) Quit (Client Quit)[19:34]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:34]<mikroskeem> shiftplusone: yeah[19:34]<mikroskeem> [Saint]: http://i.imgur.com/5eLxKnW.png[19:35]<[Saint]> so "requires firmware" == "buggy"[19:35]<[Saint]> Uhhhhh...ok.[19:35]<shiftplusone> mikroskeem, if you're a dev willing to contribute, there's #raspberrypi-kernel and http://elinux.org/RPi_Upstreaming[19:35]<[Saint]> I had the same adapter working, and still do, for probably well over a year now.[19:35]<mikroskeem> no, i'm not dev :)[19:35]<shiftplusone> ah[19:35]<mikroskeem> i'm just advanced user[19:35]<shiftplusone> seems like there are a few upstream maintainers involved who might help push it to the finish line.[19:35]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi[19:35]<mikroskeem> who tries to fix stuff what wont work[19:36]* ch007m (~chm@ip-83-134-33-146.dsl.scarlet.be) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[19:36]<[Saint]> ...in odd ways. :)[19:36]<mikroskeem> [Saint]: it's me :)[19:36]<mikroskeem> also, check this out: http://bit.ly/1ySoE8T[19:36]<mikroskeem> so many fixes for ath9k[19:36]<shiftplusone> O_O[19:37]<[Saint]> Its a bit weird with so many generations of the same stick.[19:37]<shiftplusone> I've always defended ath9k since it "works for me" but gee whiz...[19:37]<[Saint]> The v3 will "just work", the V4 needs encouragement, but after the fact, will also "just work".[19:37]<[Saint]> entirely similar to the alternate model I listed above.[19:37]<mikroskeem> btw how can i fix this http://i.imgur.com/TfUbVK2.png ?[19:37]<[Saint]> People get caught because the device itself doesn't actually mention the version iteration.[19:38]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Excess Flood)[19:38]<[Saint]> You need to have the actual box, or go digging in the commandline, to find out which iteration it is.[19:38]<mikroskeem> i should add dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 to device-tree ?[19:39]<mikroskeem> or since 3.17 kernel uses dwc2, i have to use dwc2.lpm_enable=0 ?[19:40]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi[19:40]<mikroskeem> nobody knows[19:40]<mikroskeem> lol[19:40]<Sonny_Jim> [Saint]: Did you try with the mecurial sources for SDl2?[19:40]<[Saint]> A mirror thereof.[19:41]<[Saint]> 'cos...ick, mercurial.[19:41]* iamjarvo (~textual@pool-98-115-181-52.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[19:41]* [Saint] always thought that was a hilarious name for a versioning system.[19:41]<[Saint]> By definition it essentially means it flakey, broken, and highly volatile.[19:42]<[Saint]> ...not the kind of thing you want in version control. ;)[19:42]<[Saint]> adjective[19:42]<[Saint]> 1.[19:42]<[Saint]> changeable; volatile; fickle; flighty; erratic:[19:42]<gordonDrogon> mecury is blobby, not flakey...[19:42]<Sonny_Jim> Something you really don't want to handle with your bare hands[19:42]<Sonny_Jim> And turns you insane[19:43]<[Saint]> gordonDrogon: it gets flakey when it freezes.[19:43]<[Saint]> DOes that count?[19:43]<gordonDrogon> no idea. I've never frozen the stuff.[19:43]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Excess Flood)[19:43]* ShorTie snickers[19:43]<[Saint]> Mercury isn't /bad/ to play with. Hell, you can eat the stuff.[19:43]<gordonDrogon> I have a client who recently chose Hg over GIT though. Poor them.[19:43]<[Saint]> Its *prolonged* exposure that counts.[19:43]<[Saint]> gordonDrogon: Oh dear.[19:44]* [Saint] swallowed a bunch of mercury in Uni to prove a point that it isn't nearly as volatile a substance as people proclaim it to be.[19:44]<[Saint]> And I, obviously, am still here.[19:44]<[Saint]> Sanity reasonably intact.[19:44]<gordonDrogon> and your liver?[19:45]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi[19:45]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:45]<[Saint]> Oh, that's completely screwed, but, hepatitis did that.[19:45]<[Saint]> And being stabbed. Twice.[19:45]<[Saint]> Fun times.[19:45]<gordonDrogon> er ...[19:45]* darkavenger_afk is now known as darkavenger[19:45]<toresbe> [Saint]: that's not about the length of exposure, it's about the form of the mercury[19:46]* linuxstb (~linuxstb@unaffiliated/linuxstb) has joined #raspberrypi[19:46]<gordonDrogon> vapour is not nice AIUI, and Hg has a low vapour point.[19:46]<toresbe> yeah[19:46]<toresbe> [Saint]: if you'd heated it and huffed it instead of swallowing it, you'd probably not be typing now.[19:46]* [Saint] won't try huffing any mercury then[19:47]<[Saint]> I'll stick to good 'ol fashioned glue[19:47]<[Saint]> And paint thinner.[19:47]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi[19:49]<mikroskeem> okay, time to try dwc2.lpm_enable=0[19:49]<[Saint]> God I hate daylight savings SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCHHHHH![19:49]<[Saint]> Its still light at bloody 2300, and then the sun comes up at 0610[19:49]<[Saint]> stuuupid sun.[19:50]<mikroskeem> lol[19:50]<[Saint]> never did anything for anyone.[19:50]<mikroskeem> in estonia @ summer, sun was up 'til 23:00[19:50]<mikroskeem> now there is no sun at ~ 18:50[19:50]<mikroskeem> :/[19:50]<[Saint]> Do you guys do DST?[19:50]<[Saint]> Or are you a sane country?[19:50]<mikroskeem> yeah we do DST[19:50]* [Saint] despises DST[19:51]* Wryness (~Wryness@gateway/tor-sasl/lunario) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[19:51]<[Saint]> Rather hilariously, NZ is actually +2h when we're in DST time, ever since 1945~46[19:51]<[Saint]> We added an hour of DST to cope with the war effort.[19:51]<[Saint]> And forgot to revert it.[19:51]<[Saint]> :))[19:52]* iamjarvo (~textual@pool-98-115-181-52.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[19:52]<[Saint]> It kinda got forgotten about, and when it came to light they figured it would just disrupt things even worse.[19:52]* [Saint] forgets where he read that[19:52]<gordonDrogon> we don't do DST. We do BST. (for some value of )-:[19:53]* tiktuk (~tiktuk@80-71-135-61.u.parknet.dk) has joined #raspberrypi[19:53]<[Saint]> OOOOhhhhhhh, bugger me. I'm sorry.[19:53]<[Saint]> It was WW1[19:53]* Mikelevel (~MoVeWoRk@unaffiliated/mikelevel) has joined #raspberrypi[19:53]<[Saint]> So, not 45'~46 at all.[19:53]<[Saint]> My mistake.[19:54]<[Saint]> We did it to save burning fuel and lamp gas due to war rationing.[19:54]* nighty^ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[19:56]* nighty^ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) has joined #raspberrypi[19:56]* [Saint] learns a new word that perfectly describes his efforts with SDL2[19:57]<[Saint]> Verchlimmbessern: to make something worse while trying to improve it[19:57]* lawdy (~lawdy@host86-153-252-127.range86-153.btcentralplus.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[19:57]<[Saint]> Gotta love that German efficiency. Words for everything.[19:58]<ShorTie> fits windows to a T, lol.[19:59]<gordonDrogon> well, disimprove also works.[19:59]<mikroskeem> grr... u-boot doesn't like my bootargs[19:59]<Sonny_Jim> False economny[19:59]<mikroskeem> i have to use device tree then :/[19:59]<mikroskeem> *modify device tree[19:59]<Sonny_Jim> You think you are making savings, when you are actually spending more[20:00]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:02]<omfgtora> [Saint] my girlfriend speaks german and went to a university in munich for a year. i have learned some of the german word-mashing, it's pretty cool and simple.[20:02]<[Saint]> Ahhhh. Gerglish.[20:02]<[Saint]> Yes. That's a whole other thing entirely.[20:02]<[Saint]> Frenglish is also very amusing.[20:02]<[Saint]> As well as Spanglish.[20:02]<omfgtora> no no, not that[20:02]* [Saint] is sure you can guess what nationalities they derive from[20:03]<[Saint]> Hmmm. Then I'm not sure what you mean.[20:03]<[Saint]> I wouldn't call it word mashing at all.[20:03]<omfgtora> i meant something more like using two simple words for a name[20:03]<[Saint]> Just words that have no English equivalent.[20:03]<[Saint]> Aha. Right. Gotcha.[20:04]* GrimKriegor (~GrimKrieg@a79-169-136-76.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #raspberrypi[20:05]* ThKo (~ThKo@p4FED4A30.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[20:05]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi[20:05]<Sonny_Jim> I think schadenfreud might be in the OED now[20:05]* jhulten (~jhulten@64.124.61.215) has joined #raspberrypi[20:05]<Sonny_Jim> I mean, hell, sexting and selfie both made it in[20:06]<Kirito> OED is become the Urban Dictionary[20:06]* jhulten (~jhulten@64.124.61.215) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:06]* kiely is now known as suchkiely[20:07]* suchkiely is now known as kiely[20:07]<Kirito> Has Ratchet been added yet?[20:07]<Kirito> Or the alternative definition that is[20:07]<[Saint]> And yet Google fought tooth and nail against "Ungoogleable"[20:07]<[Saint]> Claiming that it damaged their reputation and everything is googleable.[20:07]<Kirito> hah :l[20:08]<[Saint]> ...you might not find any results.But, its googleable.[20:08]<Sonny_Jim> Impossible isn't possible, but that still is a word[20:08]<Sonny_Jim> So, erm[20:08]<[Saint]> That's a bold assertion.[20:08]* Sonny_Jim scratches head[20:08]<[Saint]> One can correctly assert that many things are impossible.[20:08]<[Saint]> it definitely exists.[20:08]<Sonny_Jim> Yeah that's where my brain fell over[20:09]<Sonny_Jim> I still get stuck on why abbreviation is such a long word[20:09]<Sonny_Jim> Oh and NULL in C gives me nightmares[20:10]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:13]* ZeeWolf (~ZeeWolf@host-94-251-132-2.dynamic.mm.pl) has joined #raspberrypi[20:13]* tanuva (~tanuva@2a02:8071:29c1:7500:c433:81df:a912:8dc3) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[20:13]* takkie (~takkie@62.194.210.208) has joined #raspberrypi[20:13]* Tomako (~Kalameet@90-224-27-115-no112.tbcn.telia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:13]* randt0sh (~tosh@t0x0sh.org) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[20:15]* tanuva (~tanuva@HSI-KBW-46-223-128-105.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) has joined #raspberrypi[20:15]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi[20:18]* iBooyaa (~iBooyaa@213.205.229.130) has joined #raspberrypi[20:18]* mike_t (~mike@88.200.242.91) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[20:23]* amigojapan (~amigojapa@c119045.net21845.cablenet.ne.jp) Quit (Quit: amigojapan)[20:23]* tiktuk (~tiktuk@80-71-135-61.u.parknet.dk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:24]* Squarepy (~Squarepy@unaffiliated/squarepy) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[20:24]* samrat (~samrat@49.244.120.62) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:28]* soulcake (~soulcake@unaffiliated/soulcake) Quit (Quit: Quack.)[20:29]* iBooyaa (~iBooyaa@213.205.229.130) Quit (Quit: doh!)[20:29]* soulcake (~soulcake@unaffiliated/soulcake) has joined #raspberrypi[20:29]<Sonny_Jim> [Saint]: Cracked it :-)[20:29]<Sonny_Jim> Build the mercurial sources with the following configure opts:[20:30]<Sonny_Jim> ./configure --disable-video-x11 --disable-video-opengl[20:30]* samrat (~samrat@49.244.127.226) has joined #raspberrypi[20:30]<Sonny_Jim> Actually, it may work with the release sources, will have to try[20:31]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:32]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi[20:32]* Sonny_Jim prods gordonDrogon [20:33]* iamjarvo (~textual@pool-98-115-181-52.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:33]<gordonDrogon> ?[20:33]* oxhak (~OxHaK@ns330132.ip-37-59-37.eu) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:33]<Sonny_Jim> If you want SDL2 to use opengles2 hardware acceleration, build it with those options[20:33]<gordonDrogon> ah, right.[20:33]* mumixam (~m@unaffiliated/mumixam) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[20:33]* ijustam (~ijustam@209.43.1.25) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[20:34]<Sonny_Jim> I'm just recompiling the release version of SDL2.0.3 to check if it's the configure options that makes it work[20:34]<gordonDrogon> so now all I need to do is convery ~30K lines of my RTB interpreter from sdl 1.2 to 2.0 ... :-|[20:36]<Sonny_Jim> lol[20:37]<Sonny_Jim> AFAICS the major changes are with how surfaces and textures relate[20:37]* cognocev (~cognocev@46.246.16.124) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:38]<gordonDrogon> yes...[20:39]* cognocev (~cognocev@178.73.197.155) has joined #raspberrypi[20:39]* takkie (~takkie@62.194.210.208) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[20:40]<Sonny_Jim> What's RTB anyway?[20:40]<Sonny_Jim> Real Time Basic :-p[20:40]<gordonDrogon> Return To Basics - my basic-like interpreter.[20:40]<gordonDrogon> it lives inside an SDL window - text, scrolling, graphics, etc. everything.[20:40]* doop (~doop@2602:ffea:a::6f2f:d8d8) has joined #raspberrypi[20:40]<grammoboy> next try: volumio[20:41]<Sonny_Jim> Cool[20:41]<Sonny_Jim> Based on BASIC V I hope?[20:41]<gordonDrogon> no.[20:42]<gordonDrogon> the issue with bbc/V basic is that I'm older.[20:42]<Sonny_Jim> heh[20:42]<gordonDrogon> although it has some nods towards bbc basic - and Applesoft.[20:42]<gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/rtb/[20:44]* [Saint] takes objection to that remark[20:44]* iamjarvo (~textual@pool-98-115-181-52.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[20:44]* netzfisch (~Thunderbi@e176106061.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #raspberrypi[20:44]<[Saint]> I'm either greatly out of touch, or, I fall into the category of being "older" too.[20:45]<[Saint]> 30-something sure /feels/ old.[20:45]<[Saint]> But it shouldn't qualify here. :)[20:45]* owlsoap (~owlsoap@h136n10-vb-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.2)[20:45]<gordonDrogon> I'm > 50[20:46]<Sonny_Jim> I'd prefer that young'uns learn BASIC rather than python[20:46]<[Saint]> I guess me issue is that I had some truly ancient machines to work with as a child.[20:46]<[Saint]> Sonny_Jim: Oh, me too.[20:46]* red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-114-159.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #raspberrypi[20:46]<Sonny_Jim> And bring back LOGO turtles ;-)[20:46]<[Saint]> In fact, I've been teaching my niece (5) BASIC on an Amstrad 6128[20:46]<[Saint]> The same Amstrad 6128 I learned on as a child.[20:47]<Sonny_Jim> I'm just glad that I've managed to get SDL2 to do what I wanted[20:48]<[Saint]> Her first effort is a simple exploration of the "The 5 magic words" (AND, ANY, GOTO, IF, OR) in the form of a joke telling program.[20:48]* iamjarvo (~textual@pool-98-115-181-52.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[20:49]<[Saint]> She got a HUGE giggle out of independently finding out about indefinite looping.[20:49]<[Saint]> ie. 10 PRINT "foo"; 20 GOTO 10[20:50]<gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, RTB supports turtle graphics...[20:50]* red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-114-159.dynamic.qsc.de) Quit (Client Quit)[20:50]<[Saint]> Does anyone still *have* one of those?[20:50]<[Saint]> I know I do...somewhere.[20:50]<[Saint]> Its in a box. I know that much.[20:50]<gordonDrogon> [Saint], I tried to teach/show scratch to my 5 year old niece last week...[20:51]<[Saint]> ellipsis leads me to believe it didn't go well?[20:51]<gordonDrogon> maybe I was trying too hard.. she's not got that good a grasp of numbers yet though.[20:51]* red723 (~redhair@port-92-193-114-159.dynamic.qsc.de) has joined #raspberrypi[20:51]<[Saint]> 5yo's and Python...I dunno.[20:51]<gordonDrogon> I did some turtle graphics in scratch with her - the concept of 360 degrees in a circle was a bit much to grasp - but it was also confusing as she's just learning about clocks and reading the time.[20:52]<gordonDrogon> if only scratch had "clock" angles (which RTB does)[20:52]<[Saint]> Hahahahaha! snap![20:52]* Longhorn_ (~markku@a88-115-212-184.elisa-laajakaista.fi) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[20:52]<[Saint]> My neice has no idea about degrees of a circle either.[20:52]<gordonDrogon> ie. turn (15) rather than turn (90)[20:52]<[Saint]> And only a vague concept of their being 12 points on a clock.[20:52]<[Saint]> I am infuriated with her mother over this.[20:53]<gordonDrogon> still the achievement of getting her to ride her bike without stabilisers was "unlocked" :-)[20:53]<gordonDrogon> mummy here is an iDevice mummy ...[20:53]* samrat (~samrat@49.244.127.226) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[20:53]<[Saint]> Mind you, her mother is 22 (yah...I know... 22 w/ 5yo daughter, welcome to NZ folks!) and has no idea how to read analogue clocks either.[20:54]<[Saint]> And refuses to learn.[20:54]<gordonDrogon> oh well...[20:54]<[Saint]> So, has no ability to transfer the knowledge she doesn't have to her daughter[20:54]<gordonDrogon> just be the evil/mad/funny/clever uncle like me :)[20:54]<[Saint]> Already there. ;))[20:55]<gordonDrogon> her conversational and reading skills are very good though. also singing.[20:55]<[Saint]> Sounds like they're in reasonably similar stages of development.[20:55]<[Saint]> Not entirely surprising.[20:55]<[Saint]> I've just got her off training wheels on her bicycle too.[20:55]<gordonDrogon> my sister in-law is mid 40's.[20:55]<Sonny_Jim> I have one of these watches:[20:55]<Sonny_Jim> http://www.tokyoflash.com/en/watch_museum/pimp/pimpinainteasypu/[20:56]<Sonny_Jim> It's actually not as hard to read as it looks[20:56]* x1337807x (~x1337807x@207-170-205-178.static.twtelecom.net) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[20:56]<gordonDrogon> I have one of these: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11734[20:57]<gordonDrogon> although it's currently in bits and I need to cut a new 'case' for it.[20:58]<[Saint]> My Moto360 has a binary face.[20:58]<[Saint]> I love it.[20:58]<Sonny_Jim> Nice[20:58]<[Saint]> Ms. [Saint] has no idea how it could possibly be a clock and maintains I'm just guessing.[20:58]* netzfisch (~Thunderbi@e176106061.adsl.alicedsl.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:58]<gordonDrogon> I don't wear a watch normally though.[20:58]<Sonny_Jim> Not too keen on binary watches if I'm honest, which is why I went with this one[20:58]<[Saint]> ...with great accuracy.[20:58]<Sonny_Jim> It's analogue with a dash of digital[20:58]<gordonDrogon> the big-time one is good at geek meets or with young people.[20:59]* bobinas86 (~afwe@bl16-187-212.dsl.telepac.pt) has joined #raspberrypi[20:59]* [Saint] now wonders how he might be aqble to subconsciously teach the SIL to read analogue time[20:59]<[Saint]> Every attempt is met with resistance.[20:59]<[Saint]> So I need to be subtle about it.[20:59]<bobinas86> yo!![21:00]<Sonny_Jim> I guess SDL2 won't get into apt-get until the OpenGL ES/OpenGL problems are sorted[21:00]<Sonny_Jim> I did wonder why it wasn't in there yet[21:00]<[Saint]> I really don't get how hard it is for a 22yo woman to understand. "The little hand is on the...what? And the big hand is on...what? So, that makes it...what o'clock?"[21:00]<[Saint]> "...donnu."[21:00]<[Saint]> *dunno[21:01]<[Saint]> I swear she's just not trying. She's clearly capable.[21:01]<[Saint]> She can work out GST in her head for purchase orders.[21:01]<[Saint]> ...time? Bah. WHo needs time.[21:01]<gordonDrogon> brought up in a digital world.[21:01]* [Saint] nods[21:01]* kij__ (kij__@c-76-23-251-139.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[21:01]<e^ipi> i don’t really get digital watches[21:02]<e^ipi> watches are jewelry and digital watches look like crap, generally[21:02]<ozzzy> I had a Bulova Computron back in the 70s[21:02]<[Saint]> Rather hilariously, she can't read /all/ digital clocks either.[21:02]<gordonDrogon> I had one in the 70's. it was cool. tiny LED display. button to push to light them up for 1.5 seconds. battery to replace every 3 months )-:[21:02]* iceCalt (~iceCalt@93.220.250.227) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[21:02]<[Saint]> She has zero concept of 24h/military timing.[21:02]<bobinas86> i'm cross compiling the linux kernel and i'v been asked for the (toolchain)-size program...[21:02]<gordonDrogon> ozzzy, Ohh.. My grandpa had the Bulovia Accutron...[21:03]<[Saint]> My BIL has the Accutron II[21:03]<[Saint]> So. Damn. Expensive.[21:03]<ozzzy> the computron was gold, had a garnet 'window' and red LED numbers behind it. two batteries (good for about 6 months)[21:03]<gordonDrogon> wish I'd inherited it when he died...[21:04]<[Saint]> An original, working, Accutron fetches rather a lot these days.[21:04]<bobinas86> is there like an env var for the (toolchain)-size program?[21:04]<[Saint]> Like those bloody Casio digital watches with the full keyboard and input stylus.[21:04]<[Saint]> They fetch a pretty penny for working models.[21:04]* Keanu73 (~Keanu73@unaffiliated/keanu73) has joined #raspberrypi[21:05]<ozzzy> I bought a Rolex Submariner in 82... and wore it for 15 years[21:05]* [Saint] has an "fake" atomic clock in the lounge room.[21:05]<[Saint]> It syncs its time from a real atomic clock.[21:05]<ozzzy> my watch does that now[21:06]<ozzzy> every night... between 2 and 4am.... listens to Ft. Collins and adjusts itself[21:06]* [Saint] nods[21:06]<[Saint]> http://leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-bill/[21:06]<[Saint]> A giggle if you've never seen it.[21:06]<[Saint]> "atomic wristwatch"[21:06]* zaffy (~zaffy@adsl-ull-224-232.49-151.net24.it) has joined #raspberrypi[21:07]<[Saint]> There's also this hilarious thing: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/846511652/the-worlds-first-true-atomic-wristwatch-the-cesium[21:10]* iamjarvo (~textual@pool-98-115-181-52.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Perhaps Arch/openbox[21:40]<[Saint]> *on top of[21:41]* Kirito (~Kirito@pdpc/supporter/student/kirito) Quit (Quit: Kirito)[21:41]* grammoboy (~derick@5ED69612.cm-7-7c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[21:42]* darkbasic_ (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi[21:43]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:44]* K3N (~K3N@unaffiliated/k3n) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:45]* x1337807x (~x1337807x@207-170-205-178.static.twtelecom.net) has joined #raspberrypi[21:47]<Sonny_Jim> Weee avg FPS = 600[21:48]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:49]* gurdulilfo (~gurdulilf@c68A047C1.dhcp.as2116.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[21:53]* owluntu (~owlsoap@h136n10-vb-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[21:53]* Delboy (~openwrt@214-170.dsl.iskon.hr) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:53]* flexus (~user@chello062178084053.1.12.vie.surfer.at) has joined #raspberrypi[21:53]* _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable167.12-130-66.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[21:53]* Mikelevel (~MoVeWoRk@unaffiliated/mikelevel) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[21:54]* mumixam (~m@unaffiliated/mumixam) has joined #raspberrypi[21:54]* NoNMaDDeN (~NoNMaDDeN@wf-171-99-180-238.revip9.asianet.co.th) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[21:54]* darkbasic_ (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:57]* owluntu is now known as owlsoap[21:57]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi[21:57]* Delboy (~openwrt@190-144.dsl.iskon.hr) has joined #raspberrypi[21:58]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:59]* Hily (~Hilary_Ho@wsip-184-182-182-75.dc.dc.cox.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving.)[22:00]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi[22:01]* ZeeWolf (~ZeeWolf@host-94-251-132-2.dynamic.mm.pl) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[22:01]<gordonDrogon> Sonny_Jim, did you have an SDL1.2 code to compare?[22:05]* iamjarvo (~textual@pool-98-115-181-52.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) has joined #raspberrypi[22:09]* skylite (~skylite@540293F0.dsl.pool.telekom.hu) Quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com)[22:11]* netzfisch (~Thunderbi@e176106061.adsl.alicedsl.de) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[22:11]* netzfisch (~Thunderbi@e176106061.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #raspberrypi[22:15]* cccyRegeaneWolfe (~cccyRegea@210.23.18.199) has joined #raspberrypi[22:17]* cognocev (~cognocev@178.73.197.155) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:17]* lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk[22:18]* paogit (~paogit@gateway/tor-sasl/paogit) has joined #raspberrypi[22:18]* paogit (~paogit@gateway/tor-sasl/paogit) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[22:18]* cognocev (~cognocev@178.73.202.93) has joined #raspberrypi[22:20]* AndrevS (~andrevs@2001:982:27e5:1:225:b3ff:fec0:41e1) has joined #raspberrypi[22:21]* `Nef is now known as `N[22:23]* Mikelevel (~MoVeWoRk@unaffiliated/mikelevel) has joined #raspberrypi[22:24]* lolwhat2 (~lolwhat@gateway/tor-sasl/lolwhat) has joined #raspberrypi[22:24]* takkie (~takkie@dhcp-089-098-119-035.chello.nl) has joined #raspberrypi[22:25]* lolwhat2 (~lolwhat@gateway/tor-sasl/lolwhat) Quit (Client Quit)[22:26]* lolwhat2 (~lolwhat@gateway/tor-sasl/lolwhat) has joined #raspberrypi[22:26]<Sonny_Jim> No and strangely my FPS code doesn't seem to work with the software renderer[22:26]* bobinas86 (~afwe@bl16-187-212.dsl.telepac.pt) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[22:27]* chod (~chod@toy-town.demon.co.uk) has joined #raspberrypi[22:27]* hedmon (~hedmon@77.48.114.141) Quit (Quit: see u!)[22:28]<Sonny_Jim> Also, yup. Just --disable-video-opengl and that'll get opengles working with SDL2[22:28]* twikz_ (~twikz@p200300750F59E900C961A1540E87A6FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) Quit ()[22:29]* iceCalt (~iceCalt@p5DDCFAE3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #raspberrypi[22:30]* iamjarvo (~textual@pool-98-115-181-52.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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It appears plugging in a Microsoft USB mouse destabilized it.[22:56]* gordonpn (~gordonpn@bas3-montreal03-1176346914.dsl.bell.ca) has joined #raspberrypi[22:56]<CuriosTiger> (Tried both the RiscOS, Raspian and Pidora images.)[22:57]* tdy (~tim@unaffiliated/tdy) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[22:59]* darkbasic_ (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi[23:00]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:01]* dj_pi (~dj@c-107-5-25-243.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi[23:03]* Keanu73 (~Keanu73@unaffiliated/keanu73) Quit (Quit: Leaving)[23:05]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi[23:05]* darkbasic_ (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:05]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) Quit (Excess Flood)[23:06]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) Quit (Excess Flood)[23:06]* zegervdv (~zegervdv@212-123-29-146.iFiber.telenet-ops.be) Quit (Quit: leaving)[23:07]* LWK (LWK@pdpc/supporter/student/lwk) has joined #raspberrypi[23:08]* darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi[23:08]* jiuweigui (~jiuweigui@unaffiliated/jiuweigui) Quit (Quit: I gotta run. I've got universe to master.)[23:11]* x1337807x (~x1337807x@207-170-205-178.static.twtelecom.net) Quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Can't sudo (command not found) and can't use su, because no root password is set.. what is going on?[23:57]* Fado (Fado@cpc5-belf10-2-0-cust224.2-1.cable.virginm.net) has joined #raspberrypi[23:58]<Sonny_Jim> Sounds like a broken filesystem[23:58]<gordonDrogon> Za-Lord, sounds like some sort of corruption as you would normally be able to sudo.[23:59]<Za-Lord> I tried again on a separate sd card, same issue.[23:59]<Za-Lord> my image bad or something?[23:59]* Macuser (~textual@unaffiliated/macuser) has joined #raspberrypi[23:59]<Za-Lord> trying to do this headless cause I don't have anything with hdmi port right now[23:59]* chris_99 (~chris_99@unaffiliated/chris-99/x-3062929) has joined #raspberrypi