Rachel: We are in a moment when the politics of gay rights are rapidly, rapidly changing.

Jane: I know fast, yeah, really fast. You know it is an issue that I have not really taken personally so much. I mean, it’s something that I watch on television with great interest. I have a stake in it. I’ve got skin in the game, as ‘twere. But when the President came out and said that he supported the dignity of our families and our relationships, that really moved me. That really touched me for the first time and I realized that I’d been kind of distanced emotionally from it, but that really kind of broke it open for me.