<quoted text>A supposed Miracle always favors the one that believes the happening IS a miracle.That is NOT a coincidence ... that is favoritism.A child was lost and later found to be safe and alive. The religious ones praised the supposed god for the "miracle."Another child was lost and found dead ... murdered by a serial killer.That mother had also prayed for a miracle.

A religious person sees a wonderful healing event and proclaims it to be a miracle.

A scientist sees the same thing and seeks to find the natural cause.

Today when gravely ill, most Christians seek the care of a medical science doctor.

Why, if the Bible is true?

The answer is obvious. Delusion is set aside when reality dictates. This is then rationalized is some absurd way. But in the end, science rejected the miracle and looked for a real cure. So do most Christians.

Some people believe it would be a kindness to put an extremely malformed baby to death.

Others believe it a kindness to allow the same baby to live.>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >

The Final Inequality, by L. J. Ludovici ..

Morals at any given moment have always been as good, or as bad, as our imaginations credit them, for the morals (from the Latin, mores: customs) means simply customs, and they keep changing all the time in all the corners of the world.

<quoted text>The era of the prophets has not ended. Scripture tells us in the end times, God was going to raise up prophets, teachers,...to build His people up with truth. There are those who claim to be prophets who talk out of their vain imaginations and have led many astray. God is exposing the false ones. He's cleaning house. The bible tells us how to determine the false from the real prophet. Re: Pat Robertson, I don't listen to him so I cannot comment other than to say if what he says does not line up with scripture then I wouldn't listen to him.

Points made in the above:

People are going through a consciousness change by better understanding themselves, and hopefully - all the while, are sharing these moments.

who="Religion - A Delusion"Why does any god of the universe require one, and only one single way to approach this god?Of course, the one way is your way. What a coincidence!That's an amazing delusion! God appoints an institution which openly honors child abuse enablers - to bring "morality" to mankind.What next? Sainthood for Hitler?Aren't these delusions incredible!**********RAD: So YOU believe that God appointed the CC? So now YOU are a Catholic ???KM

I want to be Catholic.

But I can't come to terms with why God would ever appoint an institution that openly honors child abuse enablers - for the purpose of bring "morality" to mankind.

When I stop feeling repulsed by child sex abuse, and when I stop feeling repulsed by how the Vatican honors Cardinal Law to this day -- then I will join the Catholic church.

After all, the Catholic church was appointed by God to teach us morality -- so child sex abuse must be OK and there is something wrong with me.

The Seven Mysteries of Life Exploration in Science and Philosophy Guy Murchie.

But the kind of creatures prosecuted have ranged all the way from cattle and dolphins down to fish and antseven occasionally vegetables, as when a priest in medieval Burgundy declared an anathema and, in the name of sanctity, excommunicated an orchard because its fruit had tempted children to stay away from mass. And as late as 1905 a criminal dog was sentenced to death in Switzerland. Yet none of all the bewildered defendants was ever granted the means to sue humanity for perpetrating on them such devilish cruelties as the wire noose and the steel trap, which seem to me morally worse than anything any animal could hope to devise.

who="marge"Is this the verse your looking for?And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men,'Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.[Qur'an 5:116]

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Thanks, Marge. That is part of it, but he goes further to say that God has no son. He was upset with the teaching of the day that put Jesus AND Mary up as part of the Godhead. He declares Jesus to be A prophets, but calls himself THE prophet of God.

Islam teaches that Jesus was good...but that Mohammed is THE prophet foretold in scripture. They declare that the Jews rewrote the scriptures and made Isaac the son that was offered by Abraham, rather than Ishmael.

who="jethro8" a girl that a friend of mine knows,was a heavy drug user,got pregnant the baby was born with only half brain function,webbed hands and feet,6 toeswill be a vegatable it's whole life.that is one reason i support the right to have abn abortion ,this girl should have,she had her tubes tied to stop her from having kids.

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That girl didn't need an abortion. She needed to lay off the drugs.Why kill a baby, so that people can 'have their fun'?

who="marge"Is this the verse your looking for?And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men,'Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what in Thine. For Thous knowest in full all that is hidden.[Qur'an 5:116]**********

After Christians slaughtering Muslims for so many centuries as heretics, do you really want to play with the Qur'an in order to feign that your god now loves all people ... especially as Muslims believe that Christians are infidels that will burn in Islam's hell???

who="jethro8" why punish the baby for the sins of the parents? not fair,the child has done nothing wrong.**********God didn't punish the baby. Parents who abuse their own bodies cause damage to their babies. It was the fault of the parents.KM

Are you afraid that if you put your "god" to the test, that "he" will put you on a HOOK, as do brutal members of the mafia?

who="Religion - A Delusion"I want to be Catholic.But I can't come to terms with why God would ever appoint an institution that openly honors child abuse enablers - for the purpose of bring "morality" to mankind.When I stop feeling repulsed by child sex abuse, and when I stop feeling repulsed by how the Vatican honors Cardinal Law to this day -- then I will join the Catholic church.After all, the Catholic church was appointed by God to teach us morality -- so child sex abuse must be OK and there is something wrong with me.**********

Read your Bible. You will see that GOD is AGAINST sexual impurity of ANY KIND.

If you are opposed to child sex abuse, there is nothing wrong with you on that matter.

God is not an illusion, nor is He a delusion. All of HIS moral attitude is PURE. Find HIM...not a spiritual club.

who="marge"Is this the verse your looking for?And behold! Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men,'Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah'?" He will say: "Glory to Thee! Never could I say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou knowest what is in my heart, though I know not what in Thine. For Thou knowest in full all that is hidden.[Qur'an 5:116]**********

Imagine what would have happened to you as a Christian of a few centuries back for using the Qur'an as your Christian base.

It seem that you must preach in order to feel self-worth. No matter which book you pull words from ... it seems better to you than not preaching at all.

<quoted text>I emailed this Dr Day once. She is a defender of the Roman Church and refuses to accept anything e.g. dogma not supported by the Bible. So much for women preachers.The Pope claims to be 'vicar of christ'.The Vatican has many men in their service, such as the Knights of Columbus. They do in fact run all the banks. The Rothschilds f.ex are papal knights..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_famil...While the Jews do deny Christ so do all other religions. We are looking for the 'beast' of Daniel and Revelation and this is Rome's empire & church.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_kingdoms_of...

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