I would like to see you scan and post Migne's Patrologiae Cursus Completus, both Latin & Greek. I cannot find them in any libraries close to me. Shouldn't take too long, there's only about 382 volumes. Ok, how about just volume 1 of the Latin to start?

But I cannot get to them. The closest university that has them is an hour and a half away, and they only have them on microfiche, not in hard copy or computer image form (PDF, TIFF, etc.). If I can't get them, then they don't really exist.

rustymason wrote:But I cannot get to them. The closest university that has them is an hour and a half away, and they only have them on microfiche, not in hard copy or computer image form (PDF, TIFF, etc.). If I can't get them, then they don't really exist.

About how long does it take to scan in a book, anyway?

What's the name of the university?

I can do at least 2 scans a minute at 300. Pretty fast. I just set the scanner on automatic and flip the pages.

The University of Houston at Clear Lake. I think that St. Thomas may have them too but I have not checked.

My interest is to make Migne widely available. I understand that much, if not most of it, has never been translated into English. Wouldn't it be cool to translate and publish something that has never been translated and published before? I think that Latin and Greek students would think so.

I see... Well, I am pretty positive that that university has access to PLD. Who doesn't? You could probably just walk in and use any of their computers. In PLD each volume can be opened in one browser page. Usually a few megabites. Piece of cake.

As for the project itself, I have some doubts. Most of them have been voiced by Gary North. The whole thing would only work well if some standards could be maintained and if each participant had access to a few dictionaries beyond Cassel's and such. Otherwise you will just have a bunch of people endlessly scratching their heads.

rustymason wrote:How much do you think someone would charge to copy one volume into PDF format?

I can't imagine someone would not do this for free. The problem is, it is hard to convince someone to scan a book that has been already digitized. Plus, we are talking Tertullian! You can find him online, anyway. Latin, English or whatever. And I don't think that Migne's editorial notes are all too relevant at this point.

rustymason wrote:Tertullian is just Vol I-II. Aren't there dozens if not hundreds of other authors in this massive 382 volume collection?

Also, the current digitized version is copyrighted, meaning that no one can post a copy of it with his translations anywhere he wanted to.

Yes. And volume I was all you wanted to start with, right?

I entirely understand the purpose of such project, even though I would hardly benefit from it myself. Why don't you start with obtaining the list of all the works in Migne. It must be floating around somewhere. If you can then figure out which works are already exist as public domain texts on the Internet it would already be helpful for some people, I assume. PM me if you need more info.

If your enrolled in a university, you can borrow whichever volume of Migne
you are interested in through the Interlibrary Loan. What university
do you attend? I've borrowed numerous volumes before.. but only
the volumes with rare works (late antiquity/early medieval) as most
of the other stuff is readily available in better editions today.

If you're planning to scan some of them, I would skip works
like Tertullian and Augustine, as they have been published to
exhaustion... Many works Migne have never been republished
in newer editions.. believe it or not.. At least two volumes I know
are available online already... those some Canadian website.

Here is a list of the contents of the Greek Volumes:
I especially like these as they ALL have Latin translations
which are great for people like me who can get irritated
with the craziness of Greek sometimes ...

in case someone not from the u.s. is unable to open google books, or to download thence, the patrologiae can be found, in pdf format, divided into several books here. it is to be noticed however that tis not completed yet: tis a work still in progress. (most of the latin is avaible, and on august they will post 20 more books, but there is no greek yet)

A bit off topic, but does anyone know if the 'lexicon auxiliare' from Christian Helfer is to find somewhere on the net (in pdf or Djvu or something like that?)??? I've been searching a while now but well without any results

Thnx in advance,

Moerus

P.S.: I already checkes google, but I cannot download it from there ...

Tertius Robertus wrote:in case someone not from the u.s. is unable to open google books, or to download thence, the patrologiae can be found, in pdf format, divided into several books here. it is to be noticed however that tis not completed yet: tis a work still in progress. (most of the latin is avaible, and on august they will post 20 more books, but there is no greek yet)

Diocletian wrote:If your enrolled in a university, you can borrow whichever volume of Migneyou are interested in through the Interlibrary Loan. What universitydo you attend? I've borrowed numerous volumes before.. but onlythe volumes with rare works (late antiquity/early medieval) as mostof the other stuff is readily available in better editions today.

If you're planning to scan some of them, I would skip workslike Tertullian and Augustine, as they have been published toexhaustion... Many works Migne have never been republishedin newer editions.. believe it or not.. At least two volumes I knoware available online already... those some Canadian website.

Diocletian: I registered on this site specifically to be able to write and thank you multiple times for posting the list of PG contents!

I edit biblical interpretation scholarship. Am now working through the proofs of A HISTORY OF BIBLICAL INTERPRETATION vol. 2 (2008; Grand Rapids: Eerdmans; vol. 1 2003), and there are some maddening lacunae among the lists of ancient writers. Your list has made my work SOo-o-o much easier! Now I can check spellings of names, and PG volume numbers for the works our authors have referenced in their articles and bibliographies.