Handicapping Raiders coaching candidates (revised)

TONY SPARANOOdds: 2-1Current job: Raiders interim head coachAge: 53Head coaching experience: Raiders, 2014, Miami Dolphins 2008-11Appeal: Is already on the job, has the support of the players, helped develop young talent and has a relationship with owner Mark Davis.Downside: The more candidates the Raiders interview, the more it looks like they’re moving in another direction.

PAT SHURMUROdds: 5-1Age: 49Current job: Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinatorHead coaching experience: Cleveland Browns 2008-11.Appeal: The thought of quarterback Derek Carr flourishing in the cutting edge Chip Kelly offense Shurmur ran with the Eagles. Has interviewed for job.Downside: General manager Reggie McKenzie is a defensive man at heart and will push for a more conventional, work-the-clock offense.

JACK DEL RIOOdds: 5-1Age: 51
Current job: Denver Broncos defensive coordinator
Head coaching experience: Jacksonville Jaguars 2003-11.Appeal: Local product had some success with small-market Jaguars and is a confident, forceful leader. Scheduled for weekend interview.Downside: Quarterback situation while head coach in Jacksonville was seldom settled.

DARRELL BEVELLOdds: 5-1Age: 44Current job: Seattle Seahawks offensive coordinatorHead coaching experience: None.Appeal: Seahawks play-caller has been an NFL O-coordinator since 2006 (Vikings from 2006-2010. Good reputation with quarterbacks, including Packers 2000-2005. Has interviewed for job.Downside: Hasn’t been a head coach at any level and has no background in defense.

TODD BOWLESOdds: 8-1Age: 51Current job: Arizona Cardinals defensive coordinatorHead coaching experience: Miami Dolphins (interim) 2011.Appeal: The architect of a defense which put Arizona in the playoffs and worked in player personnel in Green Bay with Reggie McKenzie in1995-96.Downside: Considered one of this season’s hot candidates and could have lots of more appealing options.

PEP HAMILTONOdds: 8-1Age: 40Current job: Indianapolis Colts offensive coordinatorHead coaching experience: None.Appeal: Considered a bright, young offensive mind who has coached locally at Stanford and will get his share of interviews. Interview has been requested.Downside: No experience as a head coach and the good fortune of working with Andrew Luck could mask any deficiencies.

DAN QUINNOdds: 20-1Age: 44Current job: Seattle Seahawks defensive coordinatorHead coaching experience: None.Appeal: Has done great work with Seattle defensive and has a smash-mouth, hard-nosed intensity as a former defensive line coach.Downside: Has no experience running his own program and remains to be seen if he can build around a young quarterback. Rumor mill hasn’t included link to Raiders.

MIKE HOLMGRENOdds: 25-1Age: 66Current job: RetiredHead coaching experience: Green Bay Packers, 1992-98, Seattle Seahawks 1999-2008.Appeal: Presided over development of Brett Favre — who just happens to be the idol of Derek Carr. It’s why Carr wears No. 4.Downside: Is six years removed from every-day grind of coaching in NFL, last jobs were as a general manager and president. May be more suited for advisory role.JOSH MCDANIELSOdds: 25-1Age: 38Current job: New England Patriots offensive coordinatorHead coaching experience: Denver Broncos, 2009-10.Appeal: Considered one of the bright offensive minds in coaching and first go-round in Denver gave him plenty to learn from.Downside: Away from the protective cocoon of Patriots coach Bill Belichick and quarteback Tom Brady, is still an unknown commodity. Rumor mill has not included contact with Raiders.

MIKE SMITHOdds: 25-1.Age: 55Current job: Unemployed
Head coaching experience: Atlanta Falcons 2008-14.Appeal: Took Falcons from 4-12 to 11-5 in first year, had four double-digit win seasons in first six years. Won with young quarterback in Matt Ryan.Downside: Odd that his name hasn’t surfaced anywhere after turn-around he did with Atlanta. Could be D-coordinator candidate for a Del Rio coached team.

REX RYANOdds: 25-1Age: 52Head coaching experience: New York Jets 2009-14Appeal: A big Raider-like personality who can command a room as well as a team and one of the top defensive minds in the NFL.
Downside: Didn’t do much in the area of quarterback development with Jets and has other reported options plus an opportunity to do TV.

MARC TRESTMANOdds: 35-1Age: 58Current job: Unemployed
Head coaching experience: Montreal Alouettes 2008-12 (CFL), Chicago Bears 2013-2014.Appeal: Was play-caller for best Raiders offensive season ever in 2002 and would be delighted to have Derek Carr after dealing with Jay Cutler.Downside: After success in the Canadian Football League, Bears experience was a drama-filled disaster on both sides of the ball.

JON GRUDENOdds: 1000-1Age: 51Current job: ESPN Monday Night Football analyst
Head coaching experience: Raiders 1998-2001, Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2002-2008.Appeal: Don’t kid yourself. Nothing would energize the fan base more than Gruden coming back to Oakland.Downside: If he ever returns, wants to win immediately or is not interested. Signed up with ESPN through 2021 instead.

Let’s go back to SB 20. I’d say WAS (Rypien and Williams), NYG (Hostetler), NYG Phil Simms, Brad Johnson TAMPA, Dildofer BAL, and Kurt Warner STL. That’s a lot of years there, but it can be done. Before SB 20 it was a mixed bag.

I don’t count Eli in that group of fly-by-night QBs. I think the franchise was built around him.

It was widely reported from many media sources that Revis had rebuffed the Raiders. . .take what you will from that; many “league sources” attributed to that article. . .however, many “NFL sources” also maintained the Moss interview didn’t go well. . .

What you are referring to seems a bit far fetched; a bit paranoid. . .what is the alleged “good authority” you have that Reggie leaked bad info to the media concerning Moss? This would suggest Moss was complicit in this regard. . .he allowed himself to be used so the Raiders would have satisfied the “Rooney Rule?” That Reggie has the authority to make such decisions @ the sake of the Raiders & without Mark’s knowledge? That smacks of an agenda & serves to up your paranoia ante. . .

If you have it on such “good authority” why are you on a Raider blog in the first place? People who possess so called “inside information” usually evade the “limelight. . .” otherwise they are merely attempting to up their own ante via “inside sources;” usually people with sensitive info only share said info with others on a “off the record” or ‘deep cover” basis. . .meant to be shared with no one. . .

I doubt the sincerity of anyone who is willing to divulge information that is derived from “inside sources” as untrustworthy people who harbor their own agenda. . .information mercenaries. . .

Your suggestion that I’m not addressing Mark’s behavior, which I have ad nauseam on many occasions (almost every time I admonish Reggie I refer to the “pay as you play” contracts, bereft of signing bonuses & the link to satisfying Mark. . .) is not thorough & suggests I lack understanding of the Raiders owner’s impact (we are talking about the worse part of dumb & dumber here) upon the team. . .

You realize the true owner of the Raiders is Mark’s mom, Carol Davis. . .If/when the Raiders are sold, if after the death of Carol Davis Mark will take a huge hit on the purchase price due to the inheritance taxes due. . .in your scenario Mark has been lying to the Raider fan base since day one. . ..

In August Forbes revealed that the Raiders are one of only seven NFL teams whose value has been placed @ less than one billion ($ 970 mil) dollars. . .this is primarily due to the fact the Raiders do not have a sufficient stadium to reinforce a higher net value, among other concerns. . .thus Mark is intentionally dragging his feet?

Under your scenario Mark was done in by the NFL’s edict to leave Los Angeles vacant for yet another year. . .if Carol Davis is to die before a new stadium deal can be secured or before the conclusion of the 2015 football season Mark will be left with a 55 % tax burden against net proceeds of a sale of the Raiders. . .

Al operated with a decided “bare bones” crew as well. . .there’s nothing new on that horizon. . .what you are suggesting is Mark wishes to “water down” the talent base of the team, run the Raiders into the ground & pick up the pieces after the fall. . .how does that improve the prospects of selling the Raiders? Would a prospective owner merely be enticed upon buying one of 32 member teams in order to relocate they & pick up the pieces of the disheveled mess? Wow. . .You think Mark is more from the “Ruthless People” mindset than the “Dumb & Dumber” set. . .

Howard Benner

Both BSPN & Walter football had Mack as the highest rated LB for the entirety of the season. . .consistently. . .I could only find reference to the link I sent on. . .

Barr’s assessments were downgraded consistently under Mack’s for the reasons I specified. . .Mack was rated between fourth or fifth by Todd McShay & Meil Kiper. . .Barr was the 10th rated player for the entirety of the season by McShay & Kiper. . .Attributing the same assessment i provided for your content. . .

I wish I could find corroborative info but I’m not given to manufacture fiction to strengthen my position. . .take into consideration Walter football includes early 2013 scouting assessments with their early may 2014 assessment (in this report). . .

Most? Naw. Less than half miss the playoffs the next yr. Seattle made it back this yr..

Raider_Riff

I would love to further discuss this with you via email. Some of the info you want me to divulge I wont do on this forum. I dont even reveal my sources on my private forum. And I wont reveal them to u either. I’d be totally breaching their trust by naming names and I wont do that.

So shoot me your email and I can address your last post in detail.

Howard Benner

I would hope you would keep your sources clandestine. . .otherwise anything revealed usually will be leaked & the trust factor is destroyed. . .

He gets credit for the wins and losses. Because big Red missed a few key passes does not mean Hue does not take credit for the losses. Many take into account, was the play drawn up by the coaches there for the taking? If the answer is yes, the play was there for the taking, the bottom line problem was not the call of the play/plays.