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awful team effort. but Giradri, the past 3 games, hasn't looked anywhere as good as he looked in the past 2 seasons. In fact, I'd go as far to say he's been the worst dman these past 3 games. Constantly making blind board plays in his own zone to the opposing team, errant passes in his zone and neutral zone, and unable to handle a pass in the O zone.

So wanted to go with Malik but opted for Richards because a 9-2 drubbing is probably the last time he'll be the best chance for POTG.

IDK what's more disgusting, the way the Rangers played or the fact that I switched them off in favor of watching the Devils and Vancouver.

Can we go back to defense first, sacrifice, and jumping in front of pucks? This "AV system" seems to be producing great offense, just on the wrong side of the puck. ...oh and let Henke use his older, bigger pads! His 5-hole was always big, now, it's epic!

So wanted to go with Malik but opted for Richards because a 9-2 drubbing is probably the last time he'll be the best chance for POTG.

IDK what's more disgusting, the way the Rangers played or the fact that I switched them off in favor of watching the Devils and Vancouver.

Can we go back to defense first, sacrifice, and jumping in front of pucks? This "AV system" seems to be producing great offense, just on the wrong side of the puck. ...oh and let Henke use his older, bigger pads! His 5-hole was always big, now, it's epic!

No, Torts and his offense-stifling system was the reason we weren't winning cups.

Now we are going to see what this team is without a great coach and this is what we get. Torts had guys playing over their heads but that aspect is gone now.

We'll be pretty good, make the postseason, but it will be clear to everyone (looking from an unbiased position) that we aren't as good as we were the last couple of years. And certainly not putting out the maximum effort that we did the last couple of years as well.

Maybe I'm old school, bitter, a dick, likely all 3, but in my opinion when you are pulling the between the legs shot for your 4th goal when your team is up 8-2 you deserve to get a response.

I hate this opinion in sports. Either you're against running up the score, or you're not. Why beating the goalie with a sick wrister is ok, but making a sick move to score on a goalie is showboating? It wasn't like he flipped it like that into an empty net just to show disdain. He had enough space to use a move he knew the goalie wasn't going to expect, and gave him a high chance of scoring. There's nothing wrong with that.

I came in 2nd place in a Judo tournament last spring, and in the last match I was up on points, and my opponent would need ippon to win. With time winding down I opted to fight out of guard instead of letting them stand us back up. I wound up getting an omoplata (submission technique), and twisted it for a submission. Everyone on both teams was cool with it, but one jackass followed me around the tournament harassing me about showboating. I didn't choose the omo because it would be a bad-ass way to finish the match (although it was), I wind up in position for it, and knew my opponent wouldn't see it coming as it's primarily a BJJ move and not a Judo one.

I hate this opinion in sports. Either you're against running up the score, or you're not. Why beating the goalie with a sick wrister is ok, but making a sick move to score on a goalie is showboating? It wasn't like he flipped it like that into an empty net just to show disdain. He had enough space to use a move he knew the goalie wasn't going to expect, and gave him a high chance of scoring. There's nothing wrong with that.

I came in 2nd place in a Judo tournament last spring, and in the last match I was up on points, and my opponent would need ippon to win. With time winding down I opted to fight out of guard instead of letting them stand us back up. I wound up getting an omoplata (submission technique), and twisted it for a submission. Everyone on both teams was cool with it, but one jackass followed me around the tournament harassing me about showboating. I didn't choose the omo because it would be a bad-ass way to finish the match (although it was), I wind up in position for it, and knew my opponent wouldn't see it coming as it's primarily a BJJ move and not a Judo one.

Sometimes a flashier move is the ideal move in a situation.

It was straight up hotdoggin'; whether or not you have a problem with it is a different story. I don't really have a problem with it, it was hilarious at the time.

I hate this opinion in sports. Either you're against running up the score, or you're not. Why beating the goalie with a sick wrister is ok, but making a sick move to score on a goalie is showboating? It wasn't like he flipped it like that into an empty net just to show disdain. He had enough space to use a move he knew the goalie wasn't going to expect, and gave him a high chance of scoring. There's nothing wrong with that.

I came in 2nd place in a Judo tournament last spring, and in the last match I was up on points, and my opponent would need ippon to win. With time winding down I opted to fight out of guard instead of letting them stand us back up. I wound up getting an omoplata (submission technique), and twisted it for a submission. Everyone on both teams was cool with it, but one jackass followed me around the tournament harassing me about showboating. I didn't choose the omo because it would be a bad-ass way to finish the match (although it was), I wind up in position for it, and knew my opponent wouldn't see it coming as it's primarily a BJJ move and not a Judo one.

Sometimes a flashier move is the ideal move in a situation.

I think the point he's making is that at 8-2, did he really need to go all Marek Malik on Biron to score in that spot?

No one is upset that he scored there.

The part people are PO'd about is the manner in which he did it.

again, to me, the time to show emotion is looooong gont when the score becomes 9-2 regardless of the dipsy doodle way he did it.

It was straight up hotdoggin'; whether or not you have a problem with it is a different story. I don't really have a problem with it, it was hilarious at the time.

If he scored with an absolutely nasty wrister right there would that be hot-dogging? If Shea Weber blasted a cannon in that spot, would that be hot dogging? I mean really, I can understand someone not liking a team piling goals on late in a game. That I sort of understand. But to complain about the manner in which he did it? Geez

If he scored with an absolutely nasty wrister right there would that be hot-dogging? If Shea Weber blasted a cannon in that spot, would that be hot dogging? I mean really, I can understand someone not liking a team piling goals on late in a game. That I sort of understand. But to complain about the manner in which he did it? Geez

The more I think about it, the more I'm pissed the team didn't do **** to stand up for nash And didnt do **** wheb Hertl scored that goal on us. Yes it was sick, absolutely ridiculous goal, but we shouldve l punished him for it. How does that go unpunished. Was hoping any minute, or any goal rather, the team would wake up abd get nasty...nope. ..soft

The more I think about it, the more I'm pissed the team didn't do **** to stand up for nash And didnt do **** wheb Hertl scored that goal on us. Yes it was sick, absolutely ridiculous goal, but we shouldve l punished him for it. How does that go unpunished. Was hoping any minute, or any goal rather, the team would wake up abd get nasty...nope. ..soft

Too bad the biggest guy on the team is a huge "feline". Such a brontosaurus...

meh...making that play in the 14th round of the shootout is a lot different than doing it when the score is extremely lopsided. Most vets won't even do that because it attracts too much attention even to other teams who will see the play, It's kinda painting a hit me sign on your back...especially for the game still being played...course' we did nothing about it anyway.

So wanted to go with Malik but opted for Richards because a 9-2 drubbing is probably the last time he'll be the best chance for POTG.

IDK what's more disgusting, the way the Rangers played or the fact that I switched them off in favor of watching the Devils and Vancouver.

Can we go back to defense first, sacrifice, and jumping in front of pucks? This "AV system" seems to be producing great offense, just on the wrong side of the puck. ...oh and let Henke use his older, bigger pads! His 5-hole was always big, now, it's epic!

How about we give it more than three games on the road against some of the best teams in the league before we look to go back to a system we know doesn't produce a cup?

meh...making that play in the 14th round of the shootout is a lot different than doing it when the score is extremely lopsided. Most vets won't even do that because it attracts too much attention even to other teams who will see the play, It's kinda painting a hit me sign on your back...especially for the game still being played...course' we did nothing about it anyway.

I hate this opinion in sports. Either you're against running up the score, or you're not. Why beating the goalie with a sick wrister is ok, but making a sick move to score on a goalie is showboating? It wasn't like he flipped it like that into an empty net just to show disdain. He had enough space to use a move he knew the goalie wasn't going to expect, and gave him a high chance of scoring. There's nothing wrong with that.

I came in 2nd place in a Judo tournament last spring, and in the last match I was up on points, and my opponent would need ippon to win. With time winding down I opted to fight out of guard instead of letting them stand us back up. I wound up getting an omoplata (submission technique), and twisted it for a submission. Everyone on both teams was cool with it, but one jackass followed me around the tournament harassing me about showboating. I didn't choose the omo because it would be a bad-ass way to finish the match (although it was), I wind up in position for it, and knew my opponent wouldn't see it coming as it's primarily a BJJ move and not a Judo one.

Sometimes a flashier move is the ideal move in a situation.

yeah, ok. He was hot dogging and deserved a beating. No respect and someone should have taught him to have some.

The more I think about it, the more I'm pissed the team didn't do **** to stand up for nash And didnt do **** wheb Hertl scored that goal on us. Yes it was sick, absolutely ridiculous goal, but we shouldve l punished him for it. How does that go unpunished. Was hoping any minute, or any goal rather, the team would wake up abd get nasty...nope. ..soft

I'd love to know a singular instance where a system produced a cup.
The only one I can think of is the Devils who, unsurprisingly, played more of a defensive system.

You guys can keep preaching more time, but all the time in the world isn't going to change that its all about the caliber of players.

so then why would someone suggest we go back to the old system? I would say Detroit's system is pretty special and although it doesn't win cups by itself, it seems to make players better, especially players with speed.

There's no preaching here. Do you even read the posts you respond to? or just snippets and conclude that this is an opportunity for snarkiness? Grow up.

oh sorry...I though everyone was aware..i forgot that there might be other teams fans on this board too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marek_Mal%C3%ADk
On November 26, 2005, Malík scored on Washington Capitals netminder Olaf Kölzig to finish the longest shootout in NHL history.[2] The goal was described as a "circus shot" as Malík drew the puck towards the center of the net, put his stick between his legs, and shot high on Kölzig's stick side.

yeah, ok. He was hot dogging and deserved a beating. No respect and someone should have taught him to have some.

are all dekes hot dogging to you? Or just especially effective ones? Pavel Datsyuk humiliates goaltenders regularly, should someone "give him a beating?" What world do you live in that giving someone a beating is a rational response to a high-skill move?