More Trump lies?

Rep. Devin Nunes was recused from the Russian investigation conducted by the House Intelligence Committee. Nonetheless, Chairman Nunes and Republican committee members’ staff drafted a secret memo on their perception of actions involving the FBI and the Russian investigation. They then voted on party lines to release their secret memo for reasons of transparency. At the same time they denied the Democrats an opportunity to release their memo covering the same issues.

Of this secret Republican memo, the DOJ said its release would be “extraordinarily reckless.” Having finally seen the memo, President Trump’s appointed FBI director does not want the memo released. Release of the memo is now in the hands of the President, whose press secretary, on the day of the state of the union address, said “There are no current plans to release the House Intelligence Committee's memo. The President has not seen, or been briefed on the memo, or reviewed its contents.”

The President is not alone in this regard as the Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee asked to see it, but was denied access by Rep. Nunes. Wait though. At the conclusion of the state of the union address, President Trump, who has not seen or reviewed the memo according to his press secretary, said while leaving the House chambers that release of the memo was “100 percent.”

More Trump lies? More Huckabee Sanders lies? What are they so desperate to hide, and any bets on Donald Trump willingly meeting with Robert Mueller?

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Since when has King Cheat-o ever told the truth? He couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it. Every time he flaps his gums and waves those tiny hands around, I know he's telling whoppers. The only great thing he will ever be is the Great Liar, and the only thing he will be leading all of the other Presidents in are his low poll numbers.

Ah fake newsing this one too John? If the right is all about transparency why then would Nunes and co refuse to allow the point by point rebuttal the left wrote that shows this to be the made up smokescreen it always was.

Wanna debate the facts? I'll sure do it but I don't think you do. Carter Page's FISA warrant was issued by several sources of testimony and information (many of which were derived directly from Page) - not just Steele's testimony. There is no indication that Steels testimony is false, only that he was dropped as a source later when he spoke to the media about the graves concerns he had not being followed up on after having given it. That's a break in FBI protocol - but no admission or automatic dismissal of the information. Which in fact turned out to be factual. Duh!

So let's talk about the motivation and how you keep digging yourself deeper and deeper into this. Gee, the same republicans who wanted multi year IRS and benghazi investigations that found NO wrongdoing suddenly don't want any investigations and have been doing everything the can to deflate, discourage and deflect attention from the Trump Russia investigation. This is the 3rd time Nunes has been caught actively coordinating with the WH to obstruct this investigation...and showing his rear for all to see.

I love to see the whirling dervish dance you wingers do between being devotees of the FBI in general (especially those really great years when they'd spy on MLK and commies really well) to the modern day whip around to happy about Clinton investigations to made about clinton being found innocent to loving comey (a republican darling for many years) for the 10 day election memo to hating him for investigating them, to loving surveillance when it's your enemies to hating it when it uncovers malfeasance with a republican R behind the name. Even Mueller was a GOP hero until he started getting closer to the truth and trigger the republican white washing machine that this is...

And just like the Nixon devotees who tried to coverup, obfuscate and defend the nixon scandal - you'll be on the wrong side again. You're lied down with dogs and woke up covered with fleas...most animals try to avoid them and get rid of the them, you choose to embrace them. Don't you EVER get tired of being on the wrong side of history?

Of course. How it works is that they have a worldview based on myths, falsehoods, and unchecked statements by authority figures. Much of this is largely based on fear and is sold to them as such.

When confronted with FACTS that are VERIFIABLE, this initiates a cognitive dissonance that causes the fight or flight response to flood them with stress hormones. Instead of embracing the FACTS and changing their worldview to conform with reality, they double-down on the falsehoods and lash out at those who have challenged their false beliefs.

They start off by deflecting, follow this up with ad hominems and when these do not stop the facts from being presented, they resort to more direct attacks on the truth such as trying to use force, such as employing law enforcement, to shut down their opposition.

We have seen all of this played out right here on these threads fro years. John Williams is just one of many who subjects himself to this form of self-abuse.

John - I you've read the Nunes memo you'd know how utterly full of junk this moniker matt is. It says, 'Carter Page's FISA warrant was issued by several sources of testimony and information...' Section4 of the memo, 'McCabe testified before the Committee in Dec 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier info.' It was never disclosed before FISC the role of the DNC-HRC in the creartion of the dossier. Matt says, 'There is no indication that Steels testimony is false, only that he was dropped as a source later when he spoke to the media about the graves concerns he had not being followed up on after having given it. ' Seciton4 of memo: 'According to the head of the FBI's counterintelligence division ,Assistant Dir Bill Priestap, corroboration of the Steel dossier was in its "infancy" at the time of the initial Page FISA application. After Steel was terminated, a source validation report conducted by an independent unity within FBI assessed Steel's reporting as only minimally corroborated. Yes, in early Jan 2017, Dir Comey briefed President-elect Trump on a summary of the Steel dossier, even though it was - according to his June 2017 testimony-"salacious and unverified."'

Matt: ', only that [Steele] was dropped as a source later when he spoke to the media about the graves concerns he had not being followed up on after having given it.'

Section 2, 3. of the Memo:'Steele was suspended and then terminated as an FBI source for what the FBI defines as the most serious of violations-an unauthorized disclosure to the media of his relationship with the FBI in an October 30, 2016 ((COMMON DIRTY CAMPAIGN TACTIC right before a vote), Mother Jones article by David Corn. Steele should have been terminated...[it goes on].'Steele didn't go to the media because he was concerned that the FBI was sitting on the dossier. The FBI had a full-blown investigation underway. Steele went to the media under the direction of his agreement with DNC-HRC. It's a common (we've seen it here in MT) dirty practice to leak fake damaging accusations at your opponent two-weeks prior to vote. This way the opponent cant defend himself. Another common practice is the circle-reporting or attempted substantiation of bogus info. IE: Steele presented his dossier as substantiated, even though much came from one source, a Russian investigative reporter (I think). He then leaked details to MotherJones, Yahoo and a few others for the other reason - a circular attempt at verification. Another could be WaPo-PropOrNot-Bellingcat.

Matt then says, 'Gee, the same republicans who wanted multi year IRS and benghazi investigations that found NO wrongdoing...' Oct of 2017, the IRS-DOJ settled with Tea Party targeting cases for millions and an apology. See link below.

Benghazi-server scandal. Compromised Strzok was involved in both the FBI Clinton-email investigation and the FBI Page-Trump-Russia investigation. He was the one who dumbed the memo drafted by Comey prior to HRCs interview. The one where she wasn't under oath. My link to 'Justice Department investigating McCabe’s handling of Clinton email probe' is below.

Matt says, 'This is the 3rd time Nunes has been caught actively coordinating with the WH to obstruct this investigation.' Really? Prove that Nunes coordinated with the WH in regards to the memo.

Matt says, 'I love to see the whirling dervish dance you wingers do between being devotees of the FBI in general (especially those really great years when they'd spy on MLK and commies really well)...' Isn't that what the democratic party and fake lestists like yourself do? I vote Jill Stein and you roll out the list of xenophobic slurs.

Nixon. They had the evidence of the break in, then the investigation pursued. No evidence of Trump-Putin-Assange collusion against HRC. She did a fine job losing the election all on her own.

Worse Than Watergate: FISA Memo Blows Open the Biggest Scandal of Our Time:https://medium.com/@zachhaller/worse-than-watergate-fisa-memo-blows-open-the-biggest-scandal-of-our-time-4d4fff625a94

Why Russiagate Is Nothing Like Watergate:https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/why-russiagate-is-nothing-like-watergate-b9a0ee82f91d

Covering for democratic party corruption is all Matt appears to do anymore. Live under a bridge?

John, I wrote the letter, so please tell me what is a "rant" about what I wrote? Also, tell me, doesn't the discrepancy between what the press secretary said and what the President said, and the timing of both, strike you as odd? Are both statements fake news? While you are at it, perhaps you can answer the following I asked you in another thread concerning solar panels. Oddly enough you did not answer so perhaps you will do that now.

"That is why it is so hard to compete with China. After all Obama backed Solindra solar panels which went bankrupt trying to compete with China" said John Williams. John, I thought it was currency manipulation. It was such an advantage to China that Donald Trump said he would end Chinese currency manipulation on his first day in office. Did he do that John, or is this something I just picked up on fake news?

John Andrew, don't hold your breath waiting for any kind of rational response from John Williams. When caught in the tangle of his own rhetoric he will run away and pretend that his specious comments never happened.

Just look at how he avoids addressing his false statements about the Fairness Doctrine, the equal time requirement, when a fetus is a fetus, etc.

I see very little that is news worthy in that memo Lots of maybe, kinda, sorta stuff. The memo does however fail to include the info that Carter Page was the subject of a FISA warrant in 2013 / 2014, long before Trump even declared his candidacy. This memo does not vindicate Trump, but it does make Carter Page, the Russian sympathizer, look bad.

We have Robert Mueller, a Republican appointed by a Republican to investigate a Republican firing a Republican. Republicans then claim that a traditionally Republican FBI sought to hurt Republicans by not announcing an investigation into a Republican, allowing Republicans to win in 2016.

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