Would Trump be most ‘unpresidential’ president ever?

Lyndon Johnson once pulled up his shirt and jacket to show reporters the scars from his gall bladder surgery.

Andrew Jackson’s parrot got booted from his funeral for tweeting obscenities, or so the legend goes.

The definition of acting “presidential” – for denizens of the White House and even their pets – has, at times, been stretched. But as Donald Trump struggles with admonitions from advisers who want the pugnacious Republican front-runner to ratchet back his freewheeling bombast, those who study the presidency say he’s got a long way to go.

“Whatever presidential is, it’s not Donald Trump,” said James Thurber, director of the Center for Congressional and Presidential Studies at American University. “The president needs to have a certain presence and respect and not when they don’t like things, say crazy things. You have to have discipline and I don’t know that he does.”

But that’s mostly not happened with Trump, who notes with accuracy that his brash style has gotten him this far. His unpresidential demeanor this week: mocking Republican rival John Kasich’s table manners, accusing the Ohio Republican governor of eating like a “slob” and joking that other senators view rival Ted Cruz as a “pain in the a..”

Presidential scholars say the occasional incident aside – most presidents have presented themselves to the public, as well, presidential.

“Nixon was very dignified in public and when the tapes were out, here were these everyday conversations and Nixon is just swearing and swearing and being critical of blacks and Jews,” said George Edwards, a political science professor and Jordan Chair in Presidential Studies at Texas A&M University.

LBJ also had a reputation for being blunt and rough-hewn, but his public demeanor was more refined, Edwards said.

“In general, most presidents have acted with dignity,” Edwards said. “You don’t swear, you don’t insult women and minorities and you act with a certain degree of balance and reflect on your remarks. That does not seem to be Mr. Trump’s forte.”

Andrew Jackson, a Tennessee native, was the first president of modest means, unlike the previous six presidents, largely the products of Virginia plantations and Harvard Law School. But Jackson was “very self-consciously a gentleman,” said Daniel Feller, a professor and director of The Papers of Andrew Jackson at the University of Tennessee. “He had acquired the manners of a gentleman, he had acquired the tastes of a gentleman. That was part of what it meant to be making it in America.”

Political experts say Trump’s bluster is likely to be a leadership problem.

“He naturally presents himself in a kind of rough and tumble, no holds barred, say anything that comes to the top of his brain…his speeches tend to be off the cuff and he often doesn’t finish a sentence before his mind leads on to another tangent that’s related to what he’s talking about,” said Chris Arterton, founding dean of the Graduate School of Political Management at George Washington University.

But, he added, “presidents and being presidential means, in some ways, laying out a series of ideas in a very logical way with supporting evidence in a way that people can follow.”

Trump has mocked the concept of being “presidential,” and says it’s “much easier than being the way I am – it takes much less energy.”

That’s just fine with Trump fans, who don’t much want to see their man change much, anyhow.

Being presidential means “more bull.... comes out of a candidate’s mouth,” said Ben Johnson, a 72-year-old West Goshen, Pennsylvania, native who caught Trump at a rally outside Philadelphia earlier this week.

“I’m for Trump being Trump – the bombast, the ‘tell it like it is,’” Johnson said. “That’s what got him this far.”

Elvis McLaughlin, 59, said Trump “should stay the course” in demeanor and tone.

But Trump fares better with male voters than female, and McLaughlin’s wife, Kim, 49, said she’d like to see more manners. To her, being presidential means appearing refined and inclusive, she said: “To appeal to everyone, not just Republicans.”

Trump, she said, “needs to refine himself. I think if he makes the pivot, it will help.”

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Still, Trump argues that his brand got him where he is and Greg Sleeman, a 49-year-old Trump supporter from Unionville, Pennsylvania, worries that if Trump tones it down, his most fervent supporters might construe it as Trump becoming “politically correct, doing things that the establishment wants him to do.