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Good to know. I'm waiting for the 1060 6gb version to stabilise at around …Good to know. I'm waiting for the 1060 6gb version to stabilise at around £225 (preferably less!) for my new build.

How long are you willing to wait? 3 months, or longer? RAM prices are still on the up, so it may take longer than expected, as it is impacting the manufacturers of these cards as much as the end user. You might be lucky and catch an offer on one, but I'd set up an alert since it looks like the new normal is going to be slightly higher than it was before.

16th Sep 2017

Is the current dip in bit coin value indicative that the graphics card price might drop too?

16th Sep 2017

Plus things will kick off with north Korea by Xmas, could be a regional war, could end up messy. Prices are not coming down in the short term anyway.

Well, there might be lower demand for graphics cards but I don't think it …Well, there might be lower demand for graphics cards but I don't think it would significantly drop anytime soon. The market will correct itself within a month or two anyways

Here's hoping!

16th Sep 2017

Price won't go down quick unless the retailers are stocked up and the competition kicks in.at this stage there are massive issues with availability so no one is rushing to reduce the price,even if they have cards in stock.

Used mining rigs started to show up more often but that's still far from flooding the market, the speculators keeps the cryptocurrency market alive as nothing give them similar returns. It may continue for a while but certainly there are going to be fewer newcomers mining - wise so the situation should improve very soon.

a proper cryptocurrency crash will come anyway, it is just a matter of time so this is when we get the graphic cards significantly cheaper, regardless of the high memory cost.

Plus things will kick off with north Korea by Xmas, could be a regional …Plus things will kick off with north Korea by Xmas, could be a regional war, could end up messy. Prices are not coming down in the short term anyway.

If that happens then Seoul would be decimated in hours and literally millions of people killed on both sides. I hope that it can be avoided, Kim Jong is a nutter but attacking him with conventional weapons will not work at all. Plus America were lucky in WW2 it was an easy job for them, they have a track record of messing up, they thought they could defeat a small country called Vietnam which is not a lot bigger than the UK and it ended up in a 10 year war where they effectively lost and had to leave. Lastly the USA has arguably the worst leader in their history after G W Bush, so it's a recipe for disaster.

If that happens then Seoul would be decimated in hours and literally …If that happens then Seoul would be decimated in hours and literally millions of people killed on both sides. I hope that it can be avoided, Kim Jong is a nutter but attacking him with conventional weapons will not work at all. Plus America were lucky in WW2 it was an easy job for them, they have a track record of messing up, they thought they could defeat a small country called Vietnam which is not a lot bigger than the UK and it ended up in a 10 year war where they effectively lost and had to leave. Lastly the USA has arguably the worst leader in their history after G W Bush, so it's a recipe for disaster.

Wow, a thread about a graphics card turns into a political statement about big bad America and those nasty republicans.

If that happens then Seoul would be decimated in hours and literally …If that happens then Seoul would be decimated in hours and literally millions of people killed on both sides. I hope that it can be avoided, Kim Jong is a nutter but attacking him with conventional weapons will not work at all. Plus America were lucky in WW2 it was an easy job for them, they have a track record of messing up, they thought they could defeat a small country called Vietnam which is not a lot bigger than the UK and it ended up in a 10 year war where they effectively lost and had to leave. Lastly the USA has arguably the worst leader in their history after G W Bush, so it's a recipe for disaster.

Attack now and NK 'might' be able to load a nuke in to a warhead that can hit Seoul or Guam.Wait 12 months and it might well have one that can hit London.

Seoul are as guilty as Obama for faffing about, penning strongly worded letters etc which have achieved nothing. The world has 6 months, possibly less before we reach the brink of no return and have to accept them as a nuclear power, bullying the US, UK, Japan, SK and Australia much to Russia's and to a lesser extent the chinese's glee.

Imagine if Chechnya had nukes and threatening to drop one on Moscow, or Taiwan telling China they will wipe them off the map, could you see Putin or Jinping p*ssing about with luxury car sanctions or banning sale of perfume, or would they go in all guns blazing while they still have the bigger sticks?

Wow, a thread about a graphics card turns into a political statement about …Wow, a thread about a graphics card turns into a political statement about big bad America and those nasty republicans. Do people like you never take a day off?

Some one mentioned it I replied. It was lot more interesting than what you had to say, I literally almost feel asleep when you posted.

Seems to be very close in performance to the GTX 1060 3gb. The latter just …Seems to be very close in performance to the GTX 1060 3gb. The latter just beats it though, but is around the £180 mark at the moment. Have some heat

A lot of 'experts' seem to disagree ... eg the Benchmarking king himself

Wow, a thread about a graphics card turns into a political statement about …Wow, a thread about a graphics card turns into a political statement about big bad America and those nasty republicans. Do people like you never take a day off?

Well it IS big and they're bad for the planet and it's inhabitants due to its agricultural practices. Being concerned about the planet is a full time job I find.

16th Sep 2017

I suspect you'll be waiting a helluva long time for this. I ordered a very (very!) similar card under the same Amazon status ("This item has not yet been released"). That was back on 19th June. Still waiting

16th Sep 2017

Remember the Rx570 4gb and 1060 3gb are all cut down versions not just in memory size but also clock speed and other features. One site I read said the 1060 3gb was only a 1060 card by name.

The 8gb rx580 is currently £219 on Amazon. So £50 more than this on pre order. That has a suggested release of mid October. Pends what you want in terms of performance. RX580 is more future proofing? 4gb today may limit games in the future?

How long are you willing to wait? 3 months, or longer? RAM prices are …How long are you willing to wait? 3 months, or longer? RAM prices are still on the up, so it may take longer than expected, as it is impacting the manufacturers of these cards as much as the end user. You might be lucky and catch an offer on one, but I'd set up an alert since it looks like the new normal is going to be slightly higher than it was before.

I'm in no rush and could easily wait another 2 years before building my ideal PC. I'm actually toying with the idea of a Nintendo Switch in the meantime. In comparison it looks FUN, not drop-everything-and-play-for-a-month-intense gaming you get with most games these days.

I'm in no rush and could easily wait another 2 years before building my …I'm in no rush and could easily wait another 2 years before building my ideal PC. I'm actually toying with the idea of a Nintendo Switch in the meantime. In comparison it looks FUN, not drop-everything-and-play-for-a-month-intense gaming you get with most games these days.

Pends what your current build is. I just upgraded from a core2duo to a Ryzen 1600. Massive improvement after 10 years. Snatched a 1060 6gb card for £230 after postage. Got a bit lucky on that front after spotting a deal on here. I tried the waiting game for 2+ years. At some point you just have to set a date and build it. I recycled HD, SSD and dvdrw drive. You might even be able to reuse case and power supply pending on it's age and if it's not a OEM build like Dell.

I think bitcoin mining is here to stay. Prices may go up and down but they would have to crash hugely for the craze to stop. $200 for bitcoin currency is likely still profitable for many. Some may have already paid off their rig costs. It will take the market months if not years to recover from the current stock shortages. The manufacturers are not increasing production. So supply issues could last for months if not years. The RX 580 would be much better for 1080p gaming.

Pends what your current build is. I just upgraded from a core2duo to a …Pends what your current build is. I just upgraded from a core2duo to a Ryzen 1600. Massive improvement after 10 years. Snatched a 1060 6gb card for £230 after postage. Got a bit lucky on that front after spotting a deal on here. I tried the waiting game for 2+ years. At some point you just have to set a date and build it. I recycled HD, SSD and dvdrw drive. You might even be able to reuse case and power supply pending on it's age and if it's not a OEM build like Dell.I think bitcoin mining is here to stay. Prices may go up and down but they would have to crash hugely for the craze to stop. $200 for bitcoin currency is likely still profitable for many. Some may have already paid off their rig costs. It will take the market months if not years to recover from the current stock shortages. The manufacturers are not increasing production. So supply issues could last for months if not years. The RX 580 would be much better for 1080p gaming.

I would like to buy everything around black Friday. Similar to you, I can recycle my old PSU and HDD, but want to upgrade to a 240gb ssd for the OS and programs. I really want to stay below the £600 mark including £230 for the gtx 1060 6gb.

I would like to buy everything around black Friday. Similar to you, I can …I would like to buy everything around black Friday. Similar to you, I can recycle my old PSU and HDD, but want to upgrade to a 240gb ssd for the OS and programs. I really want to stay below the £600 mark including £230 for the gtx 1060 6gb.

Oh I couldn't recycle my case or PSU. I had bought an SSD a few years back on black Friday. I was able to upgrade Windows 7 for free. Just pick the savings where the performance isn't. Graphics, CPU and ram are the big costs here. 8gb vs 16gb can save loads! RX580 vs RX570 too another £50. Ryzen 1600 vs Ryzen 1200 another £100. Choices! Or wait? You can always buy parts now if you find them cheap on here.

Oh I couldn't recycle my case or PSU. I had bought an SSD a few years back …Oh I couldn't recycle my case or PSU. I had bought an SSD a few years back on black Friday. I was able to upgrade Windows 7 for free. Just pick the savings where the performance isn't. Graphics, CPU and ram are the big costs here. 8gb vs 16gb can save loads! RX580 vs RX570 too another £50. Ryzen 1600 vs Ryzen 1200 another £100. Choices! Or wait? You can always buy parts now if you find them cheap on here.

That's the plan, to keep looking out for good deals on various parts on here. I've got my mind set on Intel over Amd, for overall performance. Im starting off with the G4560, which i know is limiting but id rather invest more in the gpu than cpu for now. Only 8gb of ram in a good value Mobo for around £50 that supports 32gb ram (bonus if it supports 64gb). I've used PC part picker and have got a list ready, but want to buy as many of the parts as I can at the same time at best price (most likely Black Friday).

That's the plan, to keep looking out for good deals on various parts on …That's the plan, to keep looking out for good deals on various parts on here. I've got my mind set on Intel over Amd, for overall performance. Im starting off with the G4560, which i know is limiting but id rather invest more in the gpu than cpu for now. Only 8gb of ram in a good value Mobo for around £50 that supports 32gb ram (bonus if it supports 64gb). I've used PC part picker and have got a list ready, but want to buy as many of the parts as I can at the same time at best price (most likely Black Friday).

I used UK part picker too to get an idea on products and users views. Great for finding good prices too. Only issue with G4560 is it's not quad core but has 4 threads. Great budget CPU though. Intel's 8th edition CPU is coming out in October? Do not expect any giveaway price wise. The i3 will be quad core. For your budget maybe Kabylake Intel is way to go. Of course you won't be able to swap in a 6 core CPU in a few years time. Intel are moving to a new socket AGAIN!

Well, did you watch your video?Because his conclusion was: The 1060 3gb …Well, did you watch your video?Because his conclusion was: The 1060 3gb and the 570 were nearly identical at 1080p, with the 1060 3gb coming out 2% ahead.He has the exact conclusion that you were disagreeing with.Maybe there is something lost in the discussion?

So if I preorder this right now at £156 will I pay that even if the price …So if I preorder this right now at £156 will I pay that even if the price rises? Other sites have this card listed at over £200.

That's correct.

The Youtube and web reviewers suggest decent oc capabilities and fairly quiet operation,especially taking into account the small factor form.

Allegedly, the other sapphire pulse (Rx 580 8gb) offered as a pre order too, should be in stock in the middle of next month so let's hope this one will get delivered about the same time or earlier.