For what's worth and if it helps anyone else there turn on a little light bulb in their analytical mind. You can let them know that Gary Sekigahama and his family are out now and enjoying life away from the cult very much. We joined the SO from Los Gatos as a family back in 2002. There aren't many families that join like this so it was news back then. I know some there know of us leaving but the typical staffer may not and I would hate to have them continue to operate off of false data that we are still happy as clams clearing the planet in the SO. You can pass this on to John next time you see him. Maybe not the same impact as a Rinder or Rathbun leaving but just another thing to add to the doubt formula.

So (Reeve) decided to run his own test. He told the auditor a long story supposedly about a past life, but he made it all up, based upon a Greek myth. However, the auditor didn't detect anything, even with the help of the trusty "E-Meter." It was then that the "Man of Steel" decided he was done with Scientology. Reeve writes, "The fact that I got away with a blatant fabrication completely devalued my belief in the process."

RANDOM FACT:Only counting the years for exes who have a definitive number posted... this list so far represents: 1289 YEARS of SCIENTOLOGY EXPERIENCE(Critic's response to that: "So what, that makes about $112.32 in paid total wages?" LOL!)

REQUEST FOR INFORMATION:"Would it be appropriate to add Casey Kelly to this list? He had previously handled Scientology's finances and recruitment at Flag and spoke at the 1982 Clearwater Hearings on day 2 and day 3."

"Which of these people, if any, were actual Scientologists in the film The Bridge?

ADDENDA: More info: The Jean-Paul Dubreuil listed came forth with a book about scientology called 'les coulisses de la Scientologie' wich could be roughly translated as 'the backstage of scientology/Scientology's backstage'

More info: This was posted by Feral on ESMB:"Feral; Kevin Mackey.Mrs Pattycake is Vicky MackeyBoth Scientologists for 26 year. OT VII, IAS Patron, Cornerstones. Ex staff.Let it be known the bridge is a pier that drops you off in very cold, deep, dark water."

Also, dox regarding the Ausse OT exodus is being withheld to protect the fence-sitters and new-outs from OSA's shenanigans. The situation is awsome, but delicate because of dissconnection, fairgame, and PC-folder-culling. It IS happening, there is dox, but you have to LURK MOAR of ExSci and other boards to get the details, SO QUIT ASKING.

The following post by Carmel on ESMB may help you get an idea about what went on with the Aussies:

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"Nine months ago, Feral and I were very recently "out". I knew 'Mate' who had posted his story on ESMB, but we didn't know anyone else on the board. We were pretty well on our 'own', here in the Sydney area, and then very shortly after, Panda arrived. At that time, we didn't know anyone else who was "out", let alone anyone else who was posting on the board.

Feral and I got on the phone to all our mates, letting them know what we had found, and giving them links to stuff we thought would communicate. We also sent out bulk emails/letters to the entire Sydney field. We directed any and all to ESMB.

There weren't any "stories" from Sydney on the board or on the net. It was a bit of a bitch. We wanted local stories available to the people in our area, from people who were known, so that if and when people looked, they couldn't or wouldn't as easily be able to just write them off as BS.

For that reason (at that time), we posted our own stories. Doing so, we "outed" ourselves, which had its plus and negative aspects. On the one hand, OSA tried to get any and all to disconnect from us, so a lot of our lines were cut. On the other hand though, after the word had been spread around by OSA that we were posting on the net, many looked at the net to find what we had posted - It didn't gel with many that we were the bad asses that OSA were making us out to be, so some checked it out for themselves, or rang us when they couldn't find it or wanted some answers.

Many read our stories, and then forwarded them to others. We sent out links of our stories to any and all, and we did so despite the fact that they may have been disconnected from us. We got a lot of response - good and bad.

Then in no time, there were a few others from Sydney on the board - Supra, Jakadak, Sir Facer, Stably Exterior, Scooter, Mary Magdeline and other friends who were popping up. Then Scoots started posting his story.

The word was getting around the field. OSA kept stuffing up, by promoting that these different people were out. It made many think twice, as to why - and coupled with the fact that the insanities within the org were on the increase, many were already looking for answers.

We got to the point where we stopped contacting people - instead now, people were contacting us. And people were asking us for advice on how to approach all this with their friends. We obviously gave advice on this, and also helped out when and where we could.

Things were rolling along, and in a relatively short space of time, several hundred had ended up looking - Some because of what they had heard, some because they were directed to, some because of briefings from OSA, and some because they were at the end of their tether (and when they first looked they found data from people who they knew and trusted). This ended up in them waking up and then "walking", through reasons and realities of their own.

There is all the reason in the world for those 'in' to see that things aren't right and get out, but for other reasons they don't. Direct contact with or from a mate, and/or accounts of events within the org from someone who one trusts or has trusted, certainly can and has given many the nudge they needed to open their eyes and face some facts.

I know that for many here in Sydney, the scales have been doing a balancing act for a long time. Those scales got bloody wobbly for many, after the basic books evolution and all that it entailed, and after Anon started having a serious effect on the org and the inflow of new public.

I can say with certainty, that direct contact, the stories from ANZO now, and the number who are out now from our area, has been a key factor in having those scales finally tip for many in our area.

Feral and I had a goal and we went for it (we still are going for it). If we didn't, there would be many who are now "out", who would still be "in". We wouldn't have had the effect we have had; if the critics hadn't done what they did years ago; if GAT didn't happen; if the basics evolution didn't happen; if Anon weren't doing what they do; if ESMB didn't exist; and if the orgs weren't cannibalising on their own public and crew as they are today - Given all these things though, stepping in and giving things a nudge was possible, and it did speed things up.

Initially it was like pushing shit up hill, but then the more who got out (including the few who "came out"), the more willing those people still "in" became, to look and then to see. And of course, the more people getting out led to an ever increasing number of people who were contacting others in an effort to get them to look. It ended up snowballing.

It's not just by 'chance' that the speed at which many who have gotten out of Scn in Sydney and ANZO, is fast or faster compared to other areas. Some of us wanted to give it a shove along - We did and it's had/having an effect."

Interesting stuff.

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Neither have stories posted on a board but were recently (within the last 2-3 months) declared "SP" for speaking out to others about David Miscavige.

ADDENDA:Diana CanovaNan Herst Bower

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On the list her name is spelled as Conova. It is Canova.She was one of the first celebrity scis to speak out. She also played a hot nympho on television ("Soap" sitcom).An article from Premier Magazine in which she talks about how scis royally treat celebrities and generally screw everyone is reprinted here: The poor and famous Hollywood Scientologist: http://www.bible.ca/scientology-poor-famous-members.htm

From the same article you can add Nan Herst Bower, another ex,who speaks out about her son disconnecting from her and being fair gamed.

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But one of the protesters disputed that said ex-Scientologist Bill Offermann, a 63-year-old painting contractor who attended the rally and is not a member of the group [anonymous], although he communicates with its members.

The main witnesses called by the Crown at trial were five formermembers of the Church of Scientology. Four of these witnesses occupiedsenior management positions in the organization at the time of theoffenses. They participated in and, in some cases, directed theillegal activities of the Guardian's Office Intelligence Bureau. Theytestified under the protection of immunity agreements that requiredthat they disclose fully and truthfully their knowledge about theoffences before the court. These witnesses were:

(i) Bryan Levman, former Deputy Guardian Canada who wasresponsiblefor all of the activities of the Guardian's Office in Canada;(ii) Emile Gilbert, former Executive Director of the Church ofScientology of Toronto who after being removed from thisposition in the Church, became an agent for the Guardian'sOffice Canada;(iii) Kathryn Smith, who worked as a plant at the Ontario ProvincialPolice for the Guardian's Office Canada Intelligence Bureau;(iv) Dianne Fairfield, who held various positions within theGuardian's Office Canada Intelligence Bureau; and(v) Marion Evoy, Deputy Guardian Intelligence Canada who wasresponsible for the direction of the individuals who wereplants in organizations at the time of the offences.

Howard D. Schomer, a former Scientologist who was an executive of a firm alleged to be controlled by Hubbard, said he been told a major task of its staff was to convert assets of the church to Hubbard."Schomer said Hubbard's assets grew from $10 million to $44 million in the first six months he worked for Authors Services [sic], a company founded by Hubbard.

During the 17 years my husband and I were Scientologists I spent tens of thousands of dollars on services and he lost many valuable career years.

I still have very small amounts of money in various Church of Scientology locations and would like it returned to me. My letters requesting this return were not answered by the Church until I made it clear that I'm finished with Scientology. Since we have not "declared" yet, which is Scientology's version of shunning, there is technically no reason for my letters to go unanswered. In my opinion the Church is acting upon its "beans" policy, which suggests that no work be done unless it will generate income. Since my request will result in a loss of money, nothing is being done about it.[...]Christina Otto

Peter Alexander's son Moe (I saw Peter on the list but not Moe) is seen here talking to WBM (at about 6 min) from this or last year, there is also footage of him from years ago as a kid. He talks about how going to scientology schools kept him from going to college, sec checks as a child, and being asked about his "crimes" .

The plaintiff sued for breach of contract, fraud, intentionalinfliction of emotional distress, invasion of privacy, breachof fiduciary duty and additional actionable torts. The plaintiffwas defrauded in excess of $60,000. The case was recently filed.The plaintiff was a professional golfer, P.G.A. member, anda family man prior to entering Scientology. As a result of hisinvolvement in Scientology, he lost his P.G.A. standing andhis marriage was intentionally destroyed. He was declared "FairGame".

ESusanne Elleby -1988 to 1990, Flag in Clearwater, "missionaire" in CopenhagenHana Eltringham Whitfield -left after 20 years-Ship's Captain, Deputy Captain, Commodore's Staff Aide, Deputy Commodore of Hubbard's Three Ships, and part of GODennis Erlich -Former high-ranking scientologist,Sea Org, RPF, left after 15 years, exerpts from his storyJuan Esteban Cordero- filed case against COS for "progressive mental conditioning''. He spent more than $167,000 on Scientology-related courses.Pierre Ethier -Class XII Auditor. Still practices and auditsMarion Evoy - former Canadian head of Scientology's Guardian Office, testified in court against Scientology in 1992, her story

JAriane Jackson -attained highest available level, OT8. Left after 17 years , her storyHåkan Järvå Swedish ex OTIII,Left after 14 years,TV,papers,works as a pyschMary Johnston -sued the Church of Scientology, settled out of court ,her storyPatrick JostPierre Junqua -video

*MESSAGE TO THOSE MEMBERS STILL IN:ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE LEFT AND YOU CAN TOO!This list is incomplete and names will be continually added.These names are only the people who have spoken out.There are thousands more who left, and have not come foward to tell their story yet.And there are also hundreds more who spoke out who did not want their names known.You can find them at Scientology Through The Door Scientology - Through the Door - Introductionand at Ex-Scientology Kids

STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!THEY SPOKE OUT AND YOU CAN TOO!

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In addition, there is an "Indi 500 List" started by ex-Scientologists circulating and being signed.

What the ex-Scientologists are signing their names to:

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Your life belongs to you. Not to corporate Scientology, a self-appointed dictator / sociopath, or his PTS sycophants. This is a project to move Scientology toward normalcy by ending the heavily-abused practice of enforced disconnection. Get your name on the list, be one of the first 500 indie Scientologists and take your life back. The ranks of indie Scientologists are growing daily. With enough names on the list we will break the back of disconnection, not because of this list, but because of the power of your communication lines. Everything is going to turn out okay. Your own postulates are working.

That three or four exes per day (roughly speaking) are either speaking out OR research has uncovered more exes quoted while speaking out in published material just amazes me.

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Just think Those are the exes who go public against Scientology. I mean the ones who wish to and aren't scared into silence.

Yep. My very first protest included a meeting with an Ex-Scientologist and her two kids. She didn't seem to have any reservations about the tech (i.e. wasn't pro-Hubbard, a Free Zoner, or Independent) and described it as "Scientology crap". I didn't get a name and I doubt if her name is on the list (or if she even knows about the list). I'm not so sure that her name needs to be on the list TBH.

Then there are exes who speak out or even protest against Scientology while choosing to remain anonymous (e.g. anonsparrow until his third protest and one of the protestors in Chicago).

THEN there are the MANY people who try Scientology and leave before ever reaching the state of clear.