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By: defscottyb https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7046657
Sun, 10 Nov 2019 15:51:54 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7046657Trent made his own bed, time to lie in it. #HTTR
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By: Saniel Dnyder https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7046485
Sun, 10 Nov 2019 04:51:36 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7046485Everyone keeps saying that since the team doctors know drug restrictions of the NFL it should be logical that they are the players primary physician. Ummm… no. If you work at a chemical plant, the staff doctors may know more about your exposures to the chemicals you work with, but that doesn’t make them your primary doctor. Assuming that an orthopedic doctor is your primary doctor is…not smart.
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By: wrsawy https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045984
Sat, 09 Nov 2019 15:16:39 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045984He’s the one that held out. Glad he’s not receiving a paycheck. The poor me victim mentality gets old.
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By: ak185 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045829
Sat, 09 Nov 2019 09:47:00 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045829This is not just about the team physician. The team has been dysfunctional with a chaotic and negative work environment that rewards brown-nosing more than competence since Williams was brought in, and even before that. The team president enforces an authoritarian, vindictive atmosphere and cares nothing for his players or the team’s success. Look at all the players that Washington has had disagreements with over the years, not to mention the cheerleader controversy. Nothing about the place sounds like it’s a place where anyone would want to be, or expect to not be taken advantage of. Allen has no loyalty to his employees.

If you ask me, the cancer was only part of his reason for wanting to leave. The fact that he cannot trust Allen to put together a winning roster is problematic for a player on the wrong side of thirty, and I doubt Williams feels that Washington will treat him well as he ages. There’s no reason for him to waste his time there if the Redskins have shown that they don’t value his loyalty. It’s not like Witten and the Cowboys or Fitzgerald and the Cardinals or even Thomas Davis and the Panthers some other venerable veteran who’s spent his whole career/most of his career with a team that values him. The Redskins don’t value anybody but the Redskins and they’re not winning any time soon, even with all the talent on defense. The team is just dysfunctional top to bottom. And, on top of that, Williams feels like he can’t trust the doctors. And then, on of THAT, the team refuses to trade him or cut him, knowing that they’re not planning on paying him for the missed time. So yeah, I don’t think this medical issue is the only reason Williams is refusing to report.

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By: deneb1973 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045721
Sat, 09 Nov 2019 01:51:40 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045721Interesting series of comments. It seems clear that the medical staff botched this and is trying to rely upon a notation in William’s medical records that they recommended he see a dermatologist – at least THREE years ago – meaning he went through at least four subsequent full physicals during which the “doctors” said nothing about the growth despite the original notation that Charley Casserly reported (possibly violating privacy laws). No one knows what the team “doctors” said to Williams about seeking a dermatologist’s opinion (though I suspect it was an offhand comment without any urgency – that doctors never followed up). This is a medical malpractice issue, but the Redskins have made it a league wide issue about medical protocols and the appearance of team doctors as player’s primary physicians. Since non-NFL doctors may not know the drug restrictions the NFL imposes wouldn’t it be logical to presume a team doctor is the player’s primary care doctor? This is an issue about to explode. I believe that Snyder is going to be at the center of a tsunami of player fury that may derail a new CBA.
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By: hailskins1975 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045689
Sat, 09 Nov 2019 01:11:10 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045689He never had any intention to play. That was reported late Spring. I’m not taking sides because both have grossly mishandled the situation. Trent by waiting till after free agency and the draft to announce his holdout and the Redskins refusal to trade him when they could have received substantial draft capital
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By: This will be the only time https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045623
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 23:29:09 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045623whenwilliteverend– He did fail his physical.
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By: This will be the only time https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045620
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 23:27:01 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045620whenwilliteverend — He did fail his physical.
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By: golions1 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045617
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 23:25:49 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045617I’m with the club on this one. Williams had the time and the means to hire his own Drs to look at the growth on his head. Getting a second opinion is something most of us do when we have a real medical concern. Second, the team hired Drs, but those Drs individually as licensed professionals have a greater duty to the patient than they do the team. If they minimized or mislead about Williams’ condition, they should be held liable as Drs. Even if the team ordered them what to do, as a licensed professional they had the obligation to do right by Williams. Third, I don’t think even the most wild-eyed anti-tackle football zealot has speculated that football causes cancer. It truly seems to be a non-football injury.
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By: wesmanntooth https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045616
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 23:25:42 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045616I’d love this to drag out for another year or two. Injury compensation and contract pay schedules are the only reason I watch football on Sundays.
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By: tigerlilac https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045586
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 22:45:41 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045586Washington has a plantation mentality. We own him. We’ll teach him and everyone else a lesson.

The only thing that has improved for Washington is their draft position.

So, what did they do. Dragged a horror show out.

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By: vancouversportsbro https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045577
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 22:42:33 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045577This organization is messed in the head. They are run like a sweatshop corporation and not a football team. Any agent coach or gm would be dumb to come here
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By: whenwilliteverend https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045566
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 22:30:09 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045566He held out and when he did report he said he wasn’t going to play. Why should they play him. It’s one thing if he failed his physical but when he reported and said he wasn’t going to play what would you expect. Oh sure, he can fight it but that would mean going to a neutral third party. He already refused to do that regarding his medical condition so if he wants to appeal their decision he’ll have to do something similar. I blame both parties for this situation. I think his contract will toll and it should. Williams should have thought about that. It’s easy to bash on Washington but I have no problem what they did–especially when you consider Williams’ stance. If he doesn’t play and wasn’t injured on the field, why should they pay him? Yes, Washington is a train-wreck but that doesn’t mean they are wrong in how they have handled this.
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By: bostonblows https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045560
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 22:23:54 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045560Wow, what a disgrace Daniel Snyder is.

Officially the worst franchise in sports.

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By: 49fromwi https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045559
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 22:23:17 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045559Just when you think the “Washington team” couldn’t get any worse publicity from this situation, they dig up yet another level of spite. Just release the man. NOW!!
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By: Donna Martin Graduates https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045554
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 22:16:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045554Do NFL medical staffs seriously act as the primary physicians for players. If I have a growth on my head and my primary says don’t worry about it…I go get a 2nd and pay out of my pocket.

At some point pampered athletes need to take a personal responsibility.

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By: Bagoon Stevens https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045553
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 22:16:14 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045553once again wash. has proven themselves to be completely inept, feel bad for skins fans, the other owners (esp. in the NFCE) must love it, but honestly Snyder just hurts the entire league and district with his bumbling ineptitude. Never handles anything right, puts a shoddy product on the field and just alienates his fan base, as well as fans of other teams. Even though Clev. still stinks, they seem to be trying to improve. I suggest all fans boycott their games until that POS is forced to sell. People like that are crap, does not care about people at all, only thing he sees is green. Sad, because it is a reflection of what is happening in almost every aspect of american society these days, from manufacturing, health care, car prices, politics, environment and damn near everything else. Just discouraging.
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By: nyfootballgiants https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045551
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 22:13:48 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045551Look – where the redskins have done little to receive the benefit of the doubt – need to keep a couple of things in mind.

1. We have only heard Williams side of the story. It is possible that he is only providing part of the story and leaving out key points

2. The Redskins (because of privacy laws) are prohibited from disclosing anything in regards to Williams treatment. What was noticed, how he was told to handle, etc.

3. The Redskins reached out to the league and the union and asked for a neitr party analysis of how this situation was handled. Williams has told the union not to support this – which, in effect quashes this review.

So maybe the Redskins are negligent in their actions. Or perhaps Williams is looking to blame others for his situation, or looking for a way out of Washington.

I would think that if I felt screwed over by malpractice – I would want as much proof as possible – including the neutral review. The union would protect his rights in that situation. By denying it – it ensures only his narrative is public.

As a Giants fan, I have no issue with the Redskins self destructing – but we don’t have enough information to determine who is at fault.

I have to think the league wants no part of a court case that looks into how the teams/league screw players over. They would also look into the medical care that the team doctors provide throughout the league.

These issues could potentially cause the league to lose their antitrust exemption.

Dumb Owner; dumber GM/President of Ops.

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By: culturecesspool https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045518
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 21:49:55 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045518This should be a red flag to all free agents not to sign in DC.
Misdiagnosis by the team physician? Worsening condition? Smells like Snyder will be paying more after a future lawsuit to come.
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By: intrafinesse https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045514
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 21:48:57 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045514Trent mishandled it.
He should have reported 2 weeks earlier, so he could accrue enough to become a free agent sooner.
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By: nflgm https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/08/washington-decides-not-to-pay-trent-williams/#comment-7045510
Fri, 08 Nov 2019 21:43:34 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=2684689#comment-7045510Sorry, but I wouldn’t pay him either.
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