Welcome to Hell Week, ladies and gentlemen. The Moron, with his security entourage, and the Couch are dancing with glee. The fans of that team up north will petition Bud Selig to cancel the rest of the MLB season and declare the Cubs world champions. It will be hell on earth for us this week. But have faith and courage; we will get our payback, someday.

CubsfansareDRUNK

06-22-2008, 11:10 PM

!!!!! :angry::angry::angry:

thomas35forever

06-22-2008, 11:10 PM

1 run on 10 hits?
:whiner::whiner::whiner:

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:11 PM

Welcome to Hell Week, ladies and gentlemen. The Moron, with his security entourage, and the Couch are dancing with glee. The fans of that team up north will petition Bud Selig to cancel the rest of the MLB season and declare the Cubs world champions. It will be hell on earth for us this week. But have faith and courage; we will get our payback, someday.

or.. just laugh.

Come on. Isn't it fitting that we would end this weekend getting the first two men on and then stranding them right there?

MCHSoxFan

06-22-2008, 11:11 PM

Go **** the Cubs! Good night! :angry:

Cuck the Fubs

06-22-2008, 11:11 PM

Get the job done in LA, then kick some ass next weekend White Sox:cool:

Uncle_Patrick

06-22-2008, 11:11 PM

Can't blame tonight's game on Ozzie. Javy sucked out of the gate and the offense couldn't do much of anything. Some sloppy defense only made it worse.

Pathetic.

nasox

06-22-2008, 11:11 PM

Well, we've lost 9 straight on the road. That is more of a concern than this sweep. And the Twins swept the fading D Backs. Damn

lowestofthelow

06-22-2008, 11:12 PM

I'm not saying the White Sox are toast. Finished. Down the drain. Caput. Washed up. History. A memory. Defunct. Extinct. Artifacto. Sleeping with the fishes. Part of the vast past tense. Joined the choir invisible. Totally obliterated. Sheer finito. Thoroughly through. Down goes Frasier. Swept away by the Tahiti Express. Experiencing fossilization.
Stick a fork in us--we're done.

No. That's not what I'm saying. But after this weekend we've got our backs up against the wall because an elephant is standing on the couch with the remote. It's closing time;and we don't have to go home but we can't stay here. The window of opportunity has slammed shut on our fingers while hanging outside onto the sil 12 stories up. The undertaker is walking this way pulling out a tape measure while whistling to the jingling of the nails in his pocket.

We need two out of three in LA

voodoochile

06-22-2008, 11:12 PM

8 days and we get back to real baseball...

Get well soon PK. We need out big bats back...

Pear-Zin-Ski

06-22-2008, 11:12 PM

Hell on earth indeed....

Noticed how any stat the sox had on their side went straight to the ****ter this series? Un-****ing believable...I cant even believe that this **** jsut happened....

Lets hope the Sox win on the road eventually....

Signing off and wishing he had a case to himself...this is Ian C...out.....

Viva Medias B's

06-22-2008, 11:12 PM

Well, we've lost 9 straight on the road. That is more of a concern than this sweep. And the Twins swept the fading D Backs. Damn

And the Twins face the Padres this week.

:o:

Tragg

06-22-2008, 11:12 PM

3 games that supposedly weren't important somehow shaved 75% off the Sox' lead.

viagracat

06-22-2008, 11:12 PM

My wife was singing the "Go Cubs Go" song just now. I may make the police blotter tomorrow. :angry:

Sockinchisox

06-22-2008, 11:12 PM

The postgame show tonight could be epic.

:popcorn:

Frater Perdurabo

06-22-2008, 11:12 PM

I hope Aramis Ramirez gets bitten by a giant rabid rat. If treated, rabies may only require him to spend two weeks on the DL.

thomas35forever

06-22-2008, 11:13 PM

And the Twins face the Padres this week.

:o:
At least we face the Dodgers, who aren't as bad but aren't much better.

voodoochile

06-22-2008, 11:13 PM

I'm not saying the White Sox are toast. Finished. Down the drain. Caput. Washed up. History. A memory. Defunct. Extinct. Artifacto. Sleeping with the fishes. Part of the vast past tense. Joined the choir invisible. Totally obliterated. Sheer finito. Thoroughly through. Down goes Frasier. Swept away by the Tahiti Express. Experiencing fossilization.
Stick a fork in us--we're done.

No. That's not what I'm saying. But after this weekend we've got our backs up against the wall because an elephant is standing on the couch with the remote. It's closing time;and we don't have to go home but we can't stay here. The window of opportunity has slammed shut on our fingers while hanging outside onto the sil 12 stories up. The undertaker is walking this way pulling out a tape measure while whistling to the jingling of the nails in his pocket.

We need two out of three in LA

It's June...:?:

Uncle_Patrick

06-22-2008, 11:13 PM

The postgame show tonight could be epic.

:popcorn:

I feel sorry for Chris Rongey.

TommyGavinFloyd

06-22-2008, 11:13 PM

or.. just laugh.

This team has serious flaws. What is there to laugh about? The Cubs have nothing to do with our on again/off again slow as dirt lineup or our faltering starting pitching.

Frater Perdurabo

06-22-2008, 11:13 PM

8 days and we get back to real baseball...

Get well soon PK. We need out big bats back...

Yeah, just what we need: A .215 hitter batting cleanup!

hi im skot

06-22-2008, 11:14 PM

What can you do? The Sox were outplayed by a very good team this weekend. If getting swept by the Cubs is the worst thing to happen to me this summer, my life is pretty good.

Rough weekend...regroup in LA and kick them to the curb at our place next weekend.

:shrug:

Viva Medias B's

06-22-2008, 11:14 PM

The postgame show tonight could be epic.

:popcorn:

Let us all pray for Chris Rongey. He will need our prayers and then some.

kevingrt

06-22-2008, 11:14 PM

or.. just laugh.

Come on. Isn't it fitting that we would end this weekend getting the first two men on and then stranding them right there?

That's all I can do right now, laugh.

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:15 PM

At least we face the Dodgers, who aren't as bad but aren't much better.

Do we get some lollipop pitchers in LA?

Oh damn, I'm gonna be up late all week again.

JB98

06-22-2008, 11:15 PM

8 days and we get back to real baseball...

Get well soon PK. We need out big bats back...

This lineup needs a healthy, productive PK in the worst way. Amazing that we're in first place through 75 games without a healthy, productive PK.

This was terrible tonight. The first two games of the series, I thought we just got beat by a good team. This ballgame here was an embarrassing performance. The Washington Nationals would have kicked our tails tonight.

Viva Medias B's

06-22-2008, 11:15 PM

I hope Aramis Ramirez gets bitten by a giant rabid rat. If treated, rabies may only require him to spend two weeks on the DL.

I think the rat bit Ozzie this weekend affecting some of his decision making.

hi im skot

06-22-2008, 11:15 PM

I'm not saying the White Sox are toast. Finished. Down the drain. Caput. Washed up. History. A memory. Defunct. Extinct. Artifacto. Sleeping with the fishes. Part of the vast past tense. Joined the choir invisible. Totally obliterated. Sheer finito. Thoroughly through. Down goes Frasier. Swept away by the Tahiti Express. Experiencing fossilization.
Stick a fork in us--we're done.

No. That's not what I'm saying. But after this weekend we've got our backs up against the wall because an elephant is standing on the couch with the remote. It's closing time;and we don't have to go home but we can't stay here. The window of opportunity has slammed shut on our fingers while hanging outside onto the sil 12 stories up. The undertaker is walking this way pulling out a tape measure while whistling to the jingling of the nails in his pocket.

We need two out of three in LA

How long did you spend drafting this post?

Cuck the Fubs

06-22-2008, 11:16 PM

What can you do? The Sox were outplayed by a very good team this weekend. If getting swept by the Cubs is the worst thing to happen to me this summer, my life is pretty good.

Rough weekend...regroup in LA and kick them to the curb at our place next weekend.

:shrug:

:gulp:I'll drink to that :gulp:

peeonwrigley

06-22-2008, 11:16 PM

Well, this weekend went pretty much as poorly as it could. At least no one got hurt.

But seriously, after Friday's loss I anticipated the sweep. I think that loss really stung, and Wrigley is a slaughterhouse for opposing teams this year. You need to have your confidence in tact to do any sort of damage there, and it was shot after Friday.

kevingrt

06-22-2008, 11:16 PM

Let us all pray for Chris Rongey. He will need our prayers and then some.

Really the nine straight road losses and being only 1.5 games up on the Twins is much more unnerving than losing three straight to the Cubs...now excuse me as I vomit wildly.

Tragg

06-22-2008, 11:17 PM

Got some hits, but really didn't make Dempster work. lot of first pitch swinging, pulling balls below the knees. 1 walk against this guy is ridiculous.

Cubs first 2 runs and all they needed scored by hitters who walked.

this is where coaching comes in -to help them pull out of hitting slumps. Ramirez needs a coach to teach him the strike zone, or he'll turn into a Uribe or Ozzie type of hitter.

QCIASOXFAN

06-22-2008, 11:17 PM

I still don't know what to make of these guys this year though honestly. Are we good? Are we bad? One week we're ****ing world beaters and the next we look like we forgot how to play the game. I'm very confused by all this.:?:

IA_soxfan

06-22-2008, 11:17 PM

This has been one of the most frustrating Sox teams to watch that I can ever remember. Is it too much to ask to have them put together a streak of more than 3-5 games where the pitching and hitting are both solid?

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:17 PM

This team has serious flaws. What is there to laugh about? The Cubs have nothing to do with our on again/off again slow as dirt lineup or our faltering starting pitching.

Because i'm not going to get hysterical over this weekend's series :shrug:. Its June.

Frater Perdurabo

06-22-2008, 11:17 PM

This lineup needs a healthy, productive PK in the worst way. Amazing that we're in first place through 75 games without a healthy, productive PK.

I most certainly would love to have a healthy, productive PK.

But I have a nagging feeling that PK - "The Mechanic" - will need several weeks to get his swing in order, and we'll be forced to watch him GIDP and K and hit. .215 for a while longer.

viagracat

06-22-2008, 11:18 PM

I'm not saying the White Sox are toast. Finished. Down the drain. Caput. Washed up. History. A memory. Defunct. Extinct. Artifacto. Sleeping with the fishes. Part of the vast past tense. Joined the choir invisible. Totally obliterated. Sheer finito. Thoroughly through. Down goes Frasier. Swept away by the Tahiti Express. Experiencing fossilization.
Stick a fork in us--we're done.

No. That's not what I'm saying. But after this weekend we've got our backs up against the wall because an elephant is standing on the couch with the remote. It's closing time;and we don't have to go home but we can't stay here. The window of opportunity has slammed shut on our fingers while hanging outside onto the sil 12 stories up. The undertaker is walking this way pulling out a tape measure while whistling to the jingling of the nails in his pocket.

We need two out of three in LA

What the hell?!:o:

Droso5

06-22-2008, 11:18 PM

The postgame show tonight could be epic.

:popcorn:

The Chris Rongey Appreciation should start accepting donations to help pay for his prescription meds after he gets fired for literally killing someone during the post game show.

Blueprint1

06-22-2008, 11:18 PM

Losing to the cubs sucks but it's not the end of the world. What sucks worse is Minnesota is only 1.5 back. It also sucks that we can't win on the road anymore. You know what else sucks? The fact that our pitching is starting to fall apart. It also sucks that were still not driving runs in.

Someone just set off fireworks here. Or gunshots. Either way, i know a Cub fan was involved.

October26

06-22-2008, 11:19 PM

My wife was singing the "Go Cubs Go" song just now. I may make the police blotter tomorrow. :angry:

Don't do it, 'Cat. Wife is not worth it. Ignore her and avoid the police because we need you here on WSI!

TheOldRoman

06-22-2008, 11:19 PM

Another heartless, gutless performance. As Jim Leyland once said "If we win it's ok, if we lose it's ok." This team looked a whole hell of a lot like the team that laid down the last two months of 06.

For the third straight time, Javier Vazquez followed up a horrible start by Contreras with a horrible start of his own. The Sox had the pitching advantage in each one of these three games, with the advantage being really big the last two games. They crapped it away.

But it doesn't really matter how Vazquez pitched. Unless he hold the Cubs scoreless, this is a loss. Another shameful performance filled with first pitch DPs and swinging for the fences. Another horrible performance against a ****ty pitcher (which is what Dempter is no matter how good he has done so far this year).

Over our 7 game win streak, we gained 5 games on the Twins. We have now pissed that away. Our lead is back down to 1.5, and we have pissed it away against opposition we should have pounded (Det, Col) and failed to show up against the Cubs. Anytime a team takes a complete nosedive and nullifies a 7 game win streak in under two weeks, you know there is a problem. But hey, on Tuesday the offense will put up 10 runs again, with 5 homers, and we will be back on track!

hi im skot

06-22-2008, 11:19 PM

I most certainly would love to have a healthy, productive PK.

But I have a nagging feeling that PK - "The Mechanic" - will need several weeks to get his swing in order, and we'll be forced to watch him GIDP and K and hit. .215 for a while longer.

This has been one of the most frustrating Sox teams to watch that I can ever remember. Is it too much to ask to have them put together a streak of more than 3-5 games where the pitching and hitting are both solid?

There's a big difference between home and road for this group. It's very Jekyll and Hyde, and I'll leave it to smarter baseball minds than mine to try to figure it out.

Nine losses in a row on the road is alarming. We've got our ace going Tuesday night, and he's been great the last three times out. Mark Buehrle, stop this madness please.

Dick Allen

06-22-2008, 11:19 PM

The Sox have now lost 9 out of the last 10 to these goofs. They had a chance to make a big statement this weekend, and at least get the flubs off the front pages temporarily, and they peed their ******* pants. If this garbage continues next weekend, changes need to be made. And nobody give any crap about this being a first place team, because I guarantee you this won't be a first place team in another week and a half if this continues.

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:20 PM

This has been one of the most frustrating Sox teams to watch that I can ever remember. Is it too much to ask to have them put together a streak of more than 3-5 games where the pitching and hitting are both solid?
We are consistently inconsistent...it's going to be a roller coaster of a season and one that will see prozac prescriptions go through the roof on the south side. I just hope it ends well.

whitesoxwin

06-22-2008, 11:20 PM

And that stupid song......the idiots will be singing and playing that damn song ALL FRIGGIN' WEEK.
And then next Friday, in the Parking Lots....all the damn tickets sold to Flub Fans..we will have to hear about the Flubbies and that damn song.
Man, it is going to be a LONG Friggin' Week.
I am having a hard time keeping my head up.
Totally screwed up series.
Take care my good friends!

Viva Medias B's

06-22-2008, 11:21 PM

Someone just set off fireworks here. Or gunshots. Either way, i know a Cub fan was involved.

Call Chicago's finest and have his ass thrown in jail.

JB98

06-22-2008, 11:21 PM

I most certainly would love to have a healthy, productive PK.

But I have a nagging feeling that PK - "The Mechanic" - will need several weeks to get his swing in order, and we'll be forced to watch him GIDP and K and hit. .215 for a while longer.

We all better hope Paul gets healthy and gets right. I don't think we can win this without him.

Unlike you, I still believe in Konerko.

kevingrt

06-22-2008, 11:21 PM

Anyone else thrilled we have a day off tomorrow? I need one. I think this team needs one too.

BTW- Very calm post game thread so far. I pray that Rongey gets the same.

White_Sox_12

06-22-2008, 11:23 PM

Not much to say. An awful weekend for the Sox...and a good weekend for the Cubs.

No doubt, our pitching sucked this weekend. Our starters didn't deliver like they needed to (with the exception of Danks)...and our bullpen stunk it up all weekend long. Just a bad three game stretch for the Sox.

With that said, I think we Sox fans need to take a deep breath and not draw too many conclusions from this series. The Cubs have been very good at home...14 straight. So it shouldn't shock us that they came out and played good at the dump.

IMO...the next six games are key games for the White Sox. Yes...it is only June. However, with a 1.5 game lead in the Central...we really need to win at least 4 out of the next 6. I like our chances in L.A...and I also like our chances next weekend at the Cell against the Cubs. Little pay back will be in order.

So yeah, tonight sucks. However, next Sunday night could be a whole different story.

thomas35forever

06-22-2008, 11:23 PM

I'm not saying the White Sox are toast. Finished. Down the drain. Caput. Washed up. History. A memory. Defunct. Extinct. Artifacto. Sleeping with the fishes. Part of the vast past tense. Joined the choir invisible. Totally obliterated. Sheer finito. Thoroughly through. Down goes Frasier. Swept away by the Tahiti Express. Experiencing fossilization.
Stick a fork in us--we're done.

But it's true! This team is no more! It has ceased to be! It's expired and gone to meet it's maker! It's a stiff! Bereft of life, it rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed it to the perch it'd be pushing up the daisies! It's metabolic processes are now history! It's off the twig! It's kicked the bucket, it's shuffled off its mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-TEAM!!

chisoxfanatic

06-22-2008, 11:23 PM

It's times like this I'm glad the school year's done...There are some Cubs fan colleagues of mine who wouldn't let me hear the end of it. I hope Comiskey's not too full of Cub fans next weekend.

Back to the "Mad About You" marathon that's running on TVLand tonight. I'd suggest the rest of you do something similar to get your mind off of this.

Viva Medias B's

06-22-2008, 11:23 PM

Anyone else thrilled we have a day off tomorrow? I need one. I think this team needs one too.

BTW- Very calm post game thread so far. I pray that Rongey gets the same.

I work tomorrow, but my co-workers know better than to **** with me on stuff like this.

kevingrt

06-22-2008, 11:23 PM

If anyone else is listening to the postgame show this first caller is pretty spot on. But just so he knows and everyone else being "the best team in baseball" in June means zilch.

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:24 PM

Anyone else thrilled we have a day off tomorrow? I need one. I think this team needs one too.

BTW- Very calm post game thread so far. I pray that Rongey gets the same.
Lots of people saw this coming...this wasn't a surprise after the fifth inning.

Like I said getting swept by the Cubs is the LEAST concerning thing. The nine straight road losses, the poor pitching from Javy and Jose, the amount of runners left on base, the shrinking lead THESE are very concerning things.

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:24 PM

Anyone else thrilled we have a day off tomorrow? I need one. I think this team needs one too.

BTW- Very calm post game thread so far. I pray that Rongey gets the same.

What's there to say? Ozzie didn't screw up. Javy did in the beginning, but settled down. We just got our ass kicked and didn't fight at all. Dempster with 90 pitches in the 9th? There's just nothing to say.

kevingrt

06-22-2008, 11:24 PM

I work tomorrow, but my co-workers know better than to **** with me on stuff like this.

I meant baseball-wise. I already know work is going to be a joke. I'm thinking ear plugs and peripheral vision visors so my eyes are locked to teh computer.

ebit

06-22-2008, 11:24 PM

I feel sick and I don't think it was the meatloaf. Twins get San Diego on Tuesday. :(:

manders_01

06-22-2008, 11:24 PM

Well that wasn't fun at all. :whiner: For those that have to deal with the Scrubs fans this weekend, I sincerely feel for you.

19 games till the ASB. I'd like to see us win at least 11 of those, go into the break with some momentum and have the AL win the game.

Come on Sox, everyone's still behind you! :gosox:

Fungo

06-22-2008, 11:24 PM

Maybe we can stop bitching about the smell & the rats & wishing happy anniversaries and get our minds on...oh I don't know...playing good baseball!!

DickAllen72

06-22-2008, 11:24 PM

8 days and we get back to real baseball...

What, this wasn't real baseball? Why do we have to wait to get back to real baseball? :scratch:

cwsfannick

06-22-2008, 11:24 PM

Better come up with a better effort in L.A. Very frustrating weekend.

LongLiveFisk

06-22-2008, 11:25 PM

These guys seemed to approach the series with a sort of nonchalant attitude. I didn't really see a lot of fire and enthusiasm out there. Seemed like a lot of guys were just going through the motions. After sweeping the Pirates (and I know it was the Pirates, but still), I expected some confidence and swagger rather than this.

Oh well, still a lot of baseball to be played but obviously the Sox are going to need to get more consistent on offense (and pitching at times as well) otherwise it'll be a roller coaster ride to the very end.

KingXerxes

06-22-2008, 11:25 PM

Flat effort.

There really is nothing else to say.

kevingrt

06-22-2008, 11:25 PM

Lots of people saw this coming...this wasn't a surprise after the fifth inning.

Like I said getting swept by the Cubs is the LEAST concerning thing. The nine straight road losses, the poor pitching from Javy and Jose, the amount of runners left on base, the shrinking lead THESE are very concerning things.

Very true. As been mentioned the shrinking lead in the AL Central is not good. Minnesota is hot right now. We need to right the ship. And at least I have some confidence in the guy that is pitching Tuesday.

kevingrt

06-22-2008, 11:26 PM

What, this wasn't real baseball? Why do we have to wait to get back to real baseball? :scratch:

AL w/ the DH Dick.

JB98

06-22-2008, 11:26 PM

Anyone else thrilled we have a day off tomorrow? I need one. I think this team needs one too.

BTW- Very calm post game thread so far. I pray that Rongey gets the same.

Yep, I'm glad. I'm not going to think about baseball at all tomorrow. I've got other activities planned.

Viva Medias B's

06-22-2008, 11:26 PM

Ozzie's postgame presser ought to be interesting.

Droso5

06-22-2008, 11:26 PM

Anyone else thrilled we have a day off tomorrow? I need one. I think this team needs one too.

BTW- Very calm post game thread so far. I pray that Rongey gets the same.

We can only hope, for Rongey's sake. But lets face facts, this team got embarrassed, its flaws were completely exposed and their pitching sucked. The Cubs series last year signaled a complete slide into oblivion by the White Sox...it's early and time is on our side though, but that's about it at this point.

chisoxfanatic

06-22-2008, 11:26 PM

What's there to say? Ozzie didn't screw up. Javy did in the beginning, but settled down. We just got our ass kicked and didn't fight at all. Dempster with 90 pitches in the 9th? There's just nothing to say.
Now, let's not get TOO down in the dumps here. Remember that NO series can be as bad as last year's home series against Boston. This wasn't nearly as bad as that. The thing is, we'll be done in NL parks after the Dodger series. That's something to be happy about! Just keep your head up, everyone. :smile:

Quentin08

06-22-2008, 11:26 PM

I'm not looking forward to work tomorrow. :angry:
But I guess it won't be as bad as a week from Monday, when it's almost inevitable we'll get swept again at US Cellular.. and we'll have to hear it from Cubs fans that we got swept 6-0.

spongyfungy

06-22-2008, 11:26 PM

"Go Cubs Go" is the wussiest song EVER. I can't believe any person in their right mind could possibly enjoy singing along with it.

thomas35forever

06-22-2008, 11:26 PM

It's times like this I'm glad the school year's done...There are some Cubs fan colleagues of mine who wouldn't let me hear the end of it.
The only thing that requires me to go out in public this week is a math class at COD, but I don't hear many baseball diehards in there, so I should be good tomorrow (unless some Cubs fans show their true colors and can't stop talking about it).

Cuck the Fubs

06-22-2008, 11:27 PM

I never thought I would be thrilled at the thought of my upcoming ACL reconstruction...However, getting the surgery done on Tuesday may help me survive this week....painkillers are your friend:tongue:

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:28 PM

Yep, I'm glad. I'm not going to think about baseball at all tomorrow. I've got other activities planned.

Sox fans outnumber Cub fans at work by 4-1.

4-1 1/2 if I count the girl who thinks extra innings is "overtime" and can't name one player on either roster but likes to drink at Wrigley.

southsideirish71

06-22-2008, 11:28 PM

This offense better wake the hell up. Its about to get ugly from an opposing pitching standpoint.

We get 2 lefties in LA. Including Kershaw. and the righty sinkerballer Derrick Lowe.

2 lefties we never faced + a Sinkerballer.

Next weekend we get dempster again,

Then it gets ugly

Sowers, Lee and Sabathia here, then Oakland.

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:29 PM

I never thought I would be thrilled at the thought of my upcoming ACL reconstruction...However, getting the surgery done on Tuesday may help me survive this week....painkillers are your friend:tongue:

I'm jealous

KingXerxes

06-22-2008, 11:29 PM

"Go Cubs Go" is the wussiest song EVER. I can't believe any person in their right mind could possibly enjoy singing along with it.

Careful. The theme for The Mickey Mouse Club used to be a favorite of White Sox fans in the Oscar Gamble/Richie Zisk days.

JB98

06-22-2008, 11:29 PM

We can only hope, for Rongey's sake. But lets face facts, this team got embarrassed, its flaws were completely exposed and their pitching sucked. The Cubs series last year signaled a complete slide into oblivion by the White Sox...it's early and time is on our side though, but that's about it at this point.

No. We sucked well before that. By the time the Cubs came calling last June, the 2007 White Sox had already lost series to 90-loss juggernauts like the Pittsburgh Pirates, Houston Astros and Florida Marlins.

The media will try to tell you this is the beginning of the end for the Sox. DBTH.

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:30 PM

I'm not looking forward to work tomorrow. :angry:
But I guess it won't be as bad as a week from Monday, when it's almost inevitable we'll get swept again at US Cellular.. and we'll have to hear it from Cubs fans that we got swept 6-0.

Aren't you suzy sunshine?

Cuck the Fubs

06-22-2008, 11:30 PM

I'm jealous

Check back with me Tuesday night :tongue:

QCIASOXFAN

06-22-2008, 11:31 PM

Sox fans outnumber Cub fans at work by 4-1.

4-1 1/2 if I count the girl who thinks extra innings is "overtime" and can't name one player on either roster but likes to drink at Wrigley.
I wish I had that kind of ratio. I practically only know 4 Sox fans around.:(:

whitesoxwin

06-22-2008, 11:31 PM

I hope Comiskey's not too full of Cub fans next weekend.

Get ready for Friday....
The Flub Fans will be packing the place and we will have to listen to that damn song....and "let's go Flubbies".
Friday is like a Flub holiday as most Sox Fans have to work.
Why don't the Sox change the time to a night game....maybe some of those Flub Fans won't find their way home in the dark!!
Especially form the South Side.
Take care my friends...better times will come back!

JB98

06-22-2008, 11:31 PM

Sox fans outnumber Cub fans at work by 4-1.

4-1 1/2 if I count the girl who thinks extra innings is "overtime" and can't name one player on either roster but likes to drink at Wrigley.

Fortunately, I work Tuesday through Saturday this week. Some of the Cubbie glee will have worn off by the time I return to work Tuesday.

Like I said, non-baseball related activities tomorrow.

jshanahanjr

06-22-2008, 11:31 PM

Remember when we took 4 straight from the Indians and Yanks in June of 2000? It was awesome, but we felt pretty bad when the M's swept us in the playoffs. Keep the faith may friends. I'm just concerened that Javy and Jose have looked bad to horrible the last 3 starts. Maybe Paulie can come back and spark us ala Joe Crede in 2005.

kevingrt

06-22-2008, 11:31 PM

Rongey is on fire tonight. I can already tell. This second caller is doing well. Fire the advanced scouts. Ha. this is awesome.

cheezheadsoxfan

06-22-2008, 11:31 PM

Sox fans outnumber Cub fans at work by 4-1.

4-1 1/2 if I count the girl who thinks extra innings is "overtime" and can't name one player on either roster but likes to drink at Wrigley.

Thanks. On a very depressing night that brought a smile.

SoxSpeed22

06-22-2008, 11:31 PM

That sucked. The Cubs outplayed the Sox the whole series and are now playing .800 baseball at Wrigley. :o:
At least after the Dodger series, the Sox have a nice 10 game homestand. The 9 game losing streak on the road is a major problem though. The off-day can only help these guys.

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:32 PM

Very true. As been mentioned the shrinking lead in the AL Central is not good. Minnesota is hot right now. We need to right the ship. And at least I have some confidence in the guy that is pitching Tuesday.
Yea, but I don't have a whole lot of confidence outside of that pitcher...I'm worried about our pitching.

Woofer

06-22-2008, 11:32 PM

I am angry, pissed off and frustrated. Watching this weekend sucked beyond words. They can't hit, pitch or field right now. Meanwhile, we watch the cubs toy with the Sox like a cat does with a mouse, and now we get to stay up all night to watch these bums play at midnight on the West coast, to watch a lineup with no Konerko or Thome, and the frigging pitcher flailing away. If I knew what was good for me, I would not watch or listen to the games, so at least I could be mentally competent and rested. I think I need to call in sick from work tomorrow, just to get away from the abuse that is going to be thrown my way because of my diehard fandom. I don't deserve this!!!!!!!!!

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:33 PM

Thanks. On a very depressing night that brought a smile.

Good! We all need one tonight :D:

TheOldRoman

06-22-2008, 11:33 PM

Now, let's not get TOO down in the dumps here. Remember that NO series can be as bad as last year's home series against Boston. This wasn't nearly as bad as that. The thing is, we'll be done in NL parks after the Dodger series. That's something to be happy about! Just keep your head up, everyone. :smile:No, this is worse. Last year the Sox were a horrible team long after the season was decided, getting pounded by the eventual world champs. This is a first place team humiliating themselves, including not even showing up for the finale and getting swept on national TV, while losing 3 games off their lead in the process. This is worse.

munchman33

06-22-2008, 11:33 PM

I usually don't mind homerism, but I'm starting to believe a few of you people actually believe that this team is or will be fine. And that's pretty scary. That kind of unbridled ignorance toward very obvious flaws in a team is usually reserved for fans north of Madison. Congratulations, I officially see no difference between our fan bases.

I feel sick. You've all lost it. This team streaks because it's a .500 team. We aren't "okay" just because we're in first. We'll need lots of help to stay there. And if you can't see that, you've lost all sense of reality.

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:33 PM

I am angry, pissed off and frustrated. Watching this weekend sucked beyond words. They can't hit, pitch or field right now. Meanwhile, we watch the cubs toy with the Sox like a cat does with a mouse, and now we get to stay up all night to watch these bums play at midnight on the West coast, to watch a lineup with no Konerko or Thome, and the frigging pitcher flailing away. If I knew what was good for me, I would not watch or listen to the games, so at least I could be mentally competent and rested. I think I need to call in sick from work tomorrow, just to get away from the abuse that is going to be thrown my way because of my diehard fandom. I don't deserve this!!!!!!!!!
I'm debating calling in sick tommorrow too...other wise I might punch anyone I see wearing a Cubs shirt and smiling.

Harry Potter

06-22-2008, 11:34 PM

We get 2 lefties in LA. Including Kershaw. and the righty sinkerballer Derrick Lowe.

Get ready for Friday....
The Flub Fans will be packing the place and we will have to listen to that damn song....and "let's go Flubbies".
Friday is like a Flub holiday as most Sox Fans have to work.
Why don't the Sox change the time to a night game....maybe some of those Flub Fans won't find their way home in the dark!!
Especially form the South Side.
Take care my friends...better times will come back!

The Friday game used to be at night, but Sox management felt the 3:05 starts are better because they believe people aren't as tanked for them as they would be for the night game.

PaleHoser

06-22-2008, 11:34 PM

I still get back to the fact that we gave up nine home runs this weekend and didn't hit a batter.

Hawk has said it a million times: "Show me a pitcher afraid to throw inside and I'll show you a loser".

The Sox traded future GG CF Mike Cameron (who I liked as a prospect and as a player) for a guy sold to us fans as a replacement for Robin Ventura. But Paulie never played much 3B, and thus forced Frank Thomas - the best Sox hitter ever - to DH. Because he didn't have to play the field (98/99/00), this caused Frank to get lazy with his conditioning and that contributed to his decline as a player (not keeping himself in shape is Frank's fault, to be sure, but the situation contributed, too). Meanwhile, CF became a black hole for the Sox until Rowand at least was serviceable. Overall, I never support trading a CF for a 1B, especially when your team already has a HOF hitter at 1B!

Paulie has had some great seasons (02, 06) and some very bad seasons (03, 08), and in the other years has had some very good months and some very bad months. He's had some absolutely massive clutch hits (particularly against the Cubs), but also has made some colossally stupid comments. He's pretty good digging throws out of the dirt, but he's slower than a three-toed sloth and he's incredibly inconsistent.

On top of that, I think he's received way too much undeserved love (well before his Game 2 WS GS) in large part simply because of his ethnicity, and as a contrarian, I feel it's my duty to help "bring balance to The Force."

All that being said, I desperately want him to hit .350, 50 homers and 50 doubles. But unlike his legions of blinder-wearing fans, I'm realistic about what he is as a player.

hi im skot

06-22-2008, 11:35 PM

People are contemplating calling in sick to work over this?

Wow...that's kind of pathetic.

Soxfest

06-22-2008, 11:36 PM

Cubs scored on EVERY relief pitcher the Sox brought in all 3 games. Way to hold them. Hell we may get swept again next week! http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/gosoxretro.gif

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:36 PM

I still get back to the fact that we gave up nine home runs this weekend and didn't hit a batter.

Hawk has said it a million times: "Show me a pitcher afraid to throw inside and I'll show you a loser".

Personally, I think their Ramirez needs some chin music first at bat Friday.

Fukodome got hit in the elbow today, btw.

thomas35forever

06-22-2008, 11:36 PM

I still get back to the fact that we gave up nine home runs this weekend and didn't hit a batter.

Hawk has said it a million times: "Show me a pitcher afraid to throw inside and I'll show you a loser".
Fukudome got hit tonight.

Soxfest

06-22-2008, 11:37 PM

I still get back to the fact that we gave up nine home runs this weekend and didn't hit a batter.

Hawk has said it a million times: "Show me a pitcher afraid to throw inside and I'll show you a loser".

Fukedome got hit today!

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:37 PM

People are contemplating calling in sick to work over this?

Wow...that's kind of pathetic.
Yea, well, so is every other aspect of my life. Might as well be consistent.

KingXerxes

06-22-2008, 11:37 PM

The Friday game used to be at night, but Sox management felt the 3:05 starts are better because they believe people aren't as tanked for them as they would be for the night game.

Which was a good move. I was at a Friday Night White Sox/Cubs game some years ago and the atmosphere was suffocating. Lot of drunks, lot of fights.

whitesoxwin

06-22-2008, 11:37 PM

The Friday game used to be at night, but Sox management felt the 3:05 starts are better because they believe people aren't as tanked for them as they would be for the night game.

Yea, and we had some VERY Memorable comebacks..remember the C-Lee walk off grand slam.
Night games used to be "Sox Time"!

Viva Medias B's

06-22-2008, 11:37 PM

Personally, I think their Ramirez needs some chin music first at bat Friday.

Fukodome got hit in the elbow today, btw.

Fukudome got hit tonight.

Fukedome got hit today!

But I don't think Javier threw at him on purpose.

hi im skot

06-22-2008, 11:37 PM

Yea, well, so is every other aspect of my life. Might as well be consistent.

Ouch...hang in there, man! We're gonna get through this!

Tragg

06-22-2008, 11:38 PM

they could make some changes - like replace one of the deadwood coaches with someone who can work with the hitters, particularly the young hitters.

And is it necessary for both Uribe and Osuna to be on this roster?

Cuck the Fubs

06-22-2008, 11:38 PM

People are contemplating calling in sick to work over this?

Wow...that's kind of pathetic.

I'm with ya there.......this isn't the World Series :?:

It's a game, life goes on.....last time I checked the White Sox cost me money, not put money in my pocket.

thomas35forever

06-22-2008, 11:38 PM

But I don't think Javier threw at him on purpose.
Of course he didn't. Who purposely drills someone on a 1-2 count?

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:39 PM

Ouch...hang in there, man! We're gonna get through this!
We? WE are going to get through the issues in MY life? :wink:

Woofer

06-22-2008, 11:39 PM

I still get back to the fact that we gave up nine home runs this weekend and didn't hit a batter.

Hawk has said it a million times: "Show me a pitcher afraid to throw inside and I'll show you a loser".
Fukodome got one in the elbow tonight, I think in the 2 homer inning.

KingXerxes

06-22-2008, 11:39 PM

In no way was he throwing at Fukudome.

JohnnyInnsbrook

06-22-2008, 11:40 PM

People are contemplating calling in sick to work over this?

Wow...that's kind of pathetic.

I take it you don't work on the north side...

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:40 PM

"Get a guy on, strike out, hit into a double play. I can't stand it!" - good call on the post game show.

hsnterprize

06-22-2008, 11:41 PM

Ouch...hang in there, man! We're gonna get through this!Yeah...we will. This time will pass. But let's face it...our team basically got its collective asses kicked.

All I have to say about this is I'm embarrassed. The Sox better get their heads out of their butts and dominate the next 2 series...INCLUDING A SWEEP AT THE CELL AGAINST THOSE NORTH SIDE BASTARDS!!!!!!!!!

Sorry...I had to vent.

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:41 PM

First meltdown on the post-game show.

Why can't the Sox be the Cubs?

Harry Potter

06-22-2008, 11:42 PM

And is it necessary for both Uribe and Osuna to be on this roster?

"I'm baaaaack!!!!!!!!"
:osuna

hi im skot

06-22-2008, 11:42 PM

I take it you don't work on the north side...

I live and work on the northside. I'm just not going to let a baseball series disrupt my life.

Oh well, that really blew chunks, but let the whiners have their fun. They'll find a way to choke this year too, just like the last 100.

Things will be different in our park, especially since we get our DH back.

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:42 PM

First meltdown on the post-game show.

Why can't the Sox be the Cubs?
Which guy? The guy who just said there should be a new commercial? That wasn't that bad of a melt down really and he had a good point. Rongey even agrees with him. This team is a very frusturating team, simple as that!

Which guy? The guy who just said there should be a new commercial? That wasn't that bad of a melt down really and he had a good point. Rongey even agrees with him. This team is a very frusturating team, simple as that!

I agree. But he digressed into, "Why can't the Sox do what the Cubs do?" Which, granted, would be nice, but I'm not going that far. I can't. It feels dirty.

KingXerxes

06-22-2008, 11:44 PM

What is the host supposed to say to these callers? This post game show sounds like a psychiatrist's office with callers venting. He should just let them talk and when they're done he should move on to the next caller.

Cuck the Fubs

06-22-2008, 11:44 PM

I live and work on the northside. I'm just not going to let a baseball series disrupt my life.

:shrug:

I live on the northside as well.....I expect no life disruptions either.

Well, I did lose a friendly bet, I have to fly a Cub flag on my house until Friday:redface:

Other than that, life is good man:D:

Jerko

06-22-2008, 11:44 PM

Let's cut down on the walks and the high pitch counts next time we play these bums. They have 2 dangerous hitters and we can't stop them. The bottom 5 had 2 ****in hits tonight for the Cubs, but we pissed our pants, AGAIN, against their only 2 dangerous guys, and they batted every time with men on base it seemed. And somebody better watch some film of Patterson during the off day tomorrow too. Ridiculous. Ricky ****in Henderson reborn.

hi im skot

06-22-2008, 11:44 PM

We? WE are going to get through the issues in MY life? :wink:

:hug:

:therapy:

JB98

06-22-2008, 11:45 PM

Of course he didn't. Who purposely drills someone on a 1-2 count?

Not to mention, who purposely drills the leadoff hitter in an inning?

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:45 PM

I agree. But he digressed into, "Why can't the Sox do what the Cubs do?"
Well, this weekend the Cubs played fundamentally sound baseball and kicked our ass, personally I wouldn't mind seeing the Sox play fundamentally sound baseball and kick some ass, would you?

Droso5

06-22-2008, 11:45 PM

First meltdown on the post-game show.

Why can't the Sox be the Cubs?

I would say that award goes to caller #2 and his pleas to cut Crede and also to fire the entire scouting staff!

Dudes are going to be melting down all over the airwaves tonight...and if we are lucky, exclusively on the airwaves as I don't need more depressing and manic talk on my message boards too.:whiner:

LongLiveFisk

06-22-2008, 11:46 PM

Well, I did lose a friendly bet, I have to fly a Cub flag on my house until Friday:redface:

Ooh...NEVER make a bet like that. You just never know. :tongue:

russ99

06-22-2008, 11:46 PM

I live on the northside as well.....I expect no life disruptions either.

Well, I did lose a friendly bet, I have to fly a Cub flag on my house until Friday:redface:

Other than that, life is good man:D:

Yeah, but you can stencil SUCKS below the logo and still fulfill the bet. :D:

Work tomorrow is gonna suck (Evanston) but I'll wear my middle-finger ring-t shirt under my work shirt. It really is the ultimate comeback.

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:46 PM

:hug:

Don't touch me!!

Jerko

06-22-2008, 11:46 PM

Not to mention, who purposely drills the leadoff hitter in an inning?

People who don't want to make it look like they did it on purpose.

cheezheadsoxfan

06-22-2008, 11:47 PM

I agree. But he digressed into, "Why can't the Sox do what the Cubs do?" Which, granted, would be nice, but I'm not going that far. I can't. It feels dirty.

Same here.

Lip Man 1

06-22-2008, 11:47 PM

This and that:

The franchise record for most consecutive road losses is 11 set last year in August through September 1st. So the Sox have had two of their longest road losing streaks in back to back seasons.

One run, ten hits...typical, no real surprise.

As other have pointed out what is of concern is the pitching the past two weeks. They have been exceptional for almost the first three months, maybe beyond what was reasonably expected, but sooner or later without the offense giving them a break they'll crack...that may be starting we'll see.

I haven't watched any sports this weekend and I'm sure I'll have the TV off tomorrow as well.

Not much more to say, they kicked the hell out of the Sox, they earned it, we'll see how the Sox respond.

Lip

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:47 PM

Well, this weekend the Cubs played fundamentally sound baseball and kicked our ass, personally I wouldn't mind seeing the Sox play fundamentally sound baseball and kick some ass, would you?

Yes. Yes, that would be nice. But I can't say I want the Sox to be like the Cubs, because that goes against every fiber of my being.

When you phrase in the manner as you did, that's ok.

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:48 PM

I would say that award goes to caller #2 and his pleas to cut Crede and also too fire the entire scouting staff!

Dudes are going to be melting down all over the airwaves tonight...and if we are lucky, exclusively on the airwaves as I don't need more depressing and manic talk on my message boards too.:whiner:
Yea, the whole cutting Crede thing was a bit drastic, but I agree with the idea that he isn't going to be worth what Boras is asking...and the advance scouting for this series left a lot to be desired as we just kept going out on the plate and didn't really come in and attack the hitters.

Brian26

06-22-2008, 11:48 PM

The Sox traded future GG CF Mike Cameron (who I liked as a prospect and as a player) for a guy sold to us fans as a replacement for Robin Ventura. But Paulie never played much 3B, and thus forced Frank Thomas - the best Sox hitter ever - to DH. Because he didn't have to play the field (98/99/00), this caused Frank to get lazy with his conditioning and that contributed to his decline as a player (not keeping himself in shape is Frank's fault, to be sure, but the situation contributed, too). Meanwhile, CF became a black hole for the Sox until Rowand at least was serviceable. Overall, I never support trading a CF for a 1B, especially when your team already has a HOF hitter at 1B!

Konerko didn't join the White Sox until 1999 (the Cameron trade was after the '98 season). Frank DH'd 146 games in 1998, more than any other season with the White Sox. Dave Martinez and others were playing first base (while Frank DH'd) long before Konerko got here.

Cuck the Fubs

06-22-2008, 11:49 PM

Why can't the Sox be the Cubs :?::?::?::?:

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:49 PM

Yea, the whole cutting Crede thing was a bit drastic, but I agree with the idea that he isn't going to be worth what Boras is asking...and the advance scouting for this series left a lot to be desired as we just kept going out on the plate and didn't really come in and attack the hitters.

Then we can keep him for cheap and he can be stellar again next year. :D:

kevingrt

06-22-2008, 11:50 PM

I usually don't mind homerism, but I'm starting to believe a few of you people actually believe that this team is or will be fine. And that's pretty scary. That kind of unbridled ignorance toward very obvious flaws in a team is usually reserved for fans north of Madison. Congratulations, I officially see no difference between our fan bases.

I feel sick. You've all lost it. This team streaks because it's a .500 team. We aren't "okay" just because we're in first. We'll need lots of help to stay there. And if you can't see that, you've lost all sense of reality.

Well thanks.

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:50 PM

Why can't the Sox be the Cubs :?::?::?::?:

OMG... stop that! lol

russ99

06-22-2008, 11:50 PM

I want the Sox to be like the Cubs..

We shouldn't even think that. If they don't get a few lucky wind-aided HRs in their bandbox of a ballpark, it's a different series.

Every team slumps at some point of a season, the Cubs turn will come. Hopefully starting next weekend...

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:50 PM

K, that was a bit of a stretch "If we keep playing like a last place team on the road, we will be in last place." I think Cleveland and KC have something to say about THAT!

serena

06-22-2008, 11:50 PM

And the Twins face the Padres this week.

:o:

But they face them at Petco. Padres OBVIOUSLY aren't great, but they are 21-20 at Petco and it's an NL park at least.

Viva Medias B's

06-22-2008, 11:51 PM

Perhaps we should move this weekend's games from USCF to TEP Park. We always beat the Cubs there!

whitesoxwin

06-22-2008, 11:51 PM

Well, I did lose a friendly bet, I have to fly a Cub flag on my house until Friday:redface:

Post your address and one of your good Sox friends will take care of the damn flag.
I just have to put up with hearing that damn song on my radio (2-way) at work ...and as a Supervisor, I am sure it will be playing quite a bit (a couple of my guys are also Sox fans, so it is not just aimed at me, but I still have to hear it).
Lets see how the team does on the west coast and on the flipside of the Flubs set!
Good night all!!

cheezheadsoxfan

06-22-2008, 11:51 PM

Then we can keep him for cheap and he can be stellar again next year. :D:

You beat me to it. I couldn't get it worded right.

Lip Man 1

06-22-2008, 11:51 PM

Regarding the advanced scouting I've asked this question of some folks who are in the know since last year and I keep getting the same answer from all concerned. Bryan Little and his group do an outstanding job of providing the reports, something is happening from the time they deliver those reports until the time the Sox hitters and pitchers take the field.

Is it Greg Walker? The players ignoring the reports...I have no idea. I'm just passing along what I am consistently being told in this matter.

Lip

russ99

06-22-2008, 11:52 PM

But they face them at Petco. Padres OBVIOUSLY aren't great, but they are 21-20 at Petco and it's an NL park at least.

Hopefully Peavy's going. But it's more important that the Sox have to take care of business in LA, than to expect help, especially this early in the season.

Cuck the Fubs

06-22-2008, 11:52 PM

OMG... stop that! lol

That statement was just so amazing, I may ponder that for the next 24 hours!

I think we lead the majors in most extreme fan mood swings :tongue:

JB98

06-22-2008, 11:53 PM

Konerko didn't join the White Sox until 1999 (the Cameron trade was after the '98 season). Frank DH'd 146 games in 1998, more than any other season with the White Sox. Dave Martinez and others were playing first base (while Frank DH'd) long before Konerko got here.

And Konerko has had a better career than Mike Cameron. Plain and simple.

They acquired Konerko knowing that Thomas was going to be a DH in the latter part of his career.

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:53 PM

Regarding the advanced scouting I've asked this question of some folks who are in the know since last year and I keep getting the same answer from all concerned. Bryan Little and his group do an outstanding job of providing the reports, something is happening from the time they deliver those reports until the time the Sox hitters and pitchers take the field.

Is it Greg Walker? The players ignoring the reports...I have no idea. I'm just passing along what I am consistently being told in this matter.

Lip
While the hitting was bad this weekend, the pitching was equally bad too and I don't think Walker has a whole lot of say with those guys...the pitching struggling is really of much greater concern to me.

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:53 PM

You beat me to it. I couldn't get it worded right.
lol.. hey, i just got my daughter a pretty pricey Crede jersey. I have a financial interest in keeping him!

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:53 PM

That statement was just so amazing, I may ponder that for the next 24 hours!

I think we lead the majors in most extreme fan mood swings :tongue:
This series is going to be a roller coaster season and our moods will reflect it!

The Immigrant

06-22-2008, 11:54 PM

I just got back from that game. I should have just stayed at home and slammed my nuts in the door 5-6 times - it would have been just as fun.

If we do make the playoffs this year, I do not want Javy Vazquez starting any big game.

tdwiek

06-22-2008, 11:54 PM

I had to turn off my phone from all the annoying text messages from friends who happen to be Flub fans (they got dropped on their heads as children).

In a weak moment of bitterness, I had to revert to using the "100 years and counting" statement. It felt bad to have to rehash, but also felt sooooo good!!

Parrothead

06-22-2008, 11:54 PM

We shouldn't even think that. If they don't get a few lucky wind-aided HRs in their bandbox of a ballpark, it's a different series.

Every team slumps at some point of a season, the Cubs turn will come. Hopefully starting next weekend...

Our ball park is a band box too. And the Sox were not hitting HRs like the Cubs.

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:54 PM

While the hitting was bad this weekend, the pitching was equally bad too and I don't think Walker has a whole lot of say with those guys...the pitching struggling is really of much greater concern to me.
lol.. here.. i've been pondering.. perhaps to make myself feel better, that perhaps the Cubs are cheating at Wrigley. Now, don't everyone jump on me... I'm just rationalizing!

Cuck the Fubs

06-22-2008, 11:55 PM

This series is going to be a roller coaster season and our moods will reflect it!

162 games is a long ride....by game 125 there may be a prozac shortage in Chicago:redneck

Droso5

06-22-2008, 11:55 PM

Yea, the whole cutting Crede thing was a bit drastic, but I agree with the idea that he isn't going to be worth what Boras is asking...and the advance scouting for this series left a lot to be desired as we just kept going out on the plate and didn't really come in and attack the hitters.

You can say that about this series but you could also,correctly,state that this has been the norm for the last 1.5 seasons. When it settles into something that becomes a part of the team character and make-up, something is fundamentally wrong...the coaching staff must also be examined as well. I'm not calling for anything drastic, but, it is time to look a lot deeper at the deep seated problems this team has had for 1.5 seasons. Plain and simple. The Ranger said it best, that this is what the White Sox are.

You can hear the absolute strain and fatigue in Rongeys voice right now, the man is bending and cracking right before our very eyes....be strong Ranger!

WhiteSox5187

06-22-2008, 11:55 PM

I just got back from that game. I should have just stayed at home and slammed my nuts in the door 5-6 times - it would have been just as fun.

If we do make the playoffs this year, I do not want Javy Vazquez starting any big game.
If we get to the playoffs it will be in large part because of the pitching of Javier Vazquez.

Lip Man 1

06-22-2008, 11:55 PM

White Sox 5187:

I understand Greg has no control over the pitchers I was referring to comments about the Sox pitchers not throwing inside that some were making.

Those would be in the scouting reports as well and perhaps they to are being ignored.

I have no idea what's going on just passing along the information that I am being told that it's not Little and his staff.

Take it for what it may be worth.

Lip

southsideirish71

06-22-2008, 11:55 PM

Regarding the advanced scouting I've asked this question of some folks who are in the know since last year and I keep getting the same answer from all concerned. Bryan Little and his group do an outstanding job of providing the reports, something is happening from the time they deliver those reports until the time the Sox hitters and pitchers take the field.

Is it Greg Walker? The players ignoring the reports...I have no idea. I'm just passing along what I am consistently being told in this matter.

Lip

Well Lip we watched a baseball team who had power hitters who hit a lot of home runs, in a small park take the ball to right consistently all series long. And I watched another pitcher, spot low and away and shut our team down. Where is this pull only mentality coming from. We are seeing team after team attack our hitting that way. I see Ramirez and Lee drive the ball with authority to right center. And I wonder why don't I see that all the time with our hitters. They credit Gerald Perry.

JB98

06-22-2008, 11:56 PM

Regarding the advanced scouting I've asked this question of some folks who are in the know since last year and I keep getting the same answer from all concerned. Bryan Little and his group do an outstanding job of providing the reports, something is happening from the time they deliver those reports until the time the Sox hitters and pitchers take the field.

Is it Greg Walker? The players ignoring the reports...I have no idea. I'm just passing along what I am consistently being told in this matter.

Lip

As far as advanced scouting for this series, I'm not really looking at the hitters. I want to know what the hell we were doing against Aramis Ramirez. On the Cubs last road trip, Ramirez did next to nothing. But he murdered us for three days.

I've seen Ramirez play enough games now to where I know he's a dead low-ball hitter, and that he dives over the plate. He likes the ball away. And our pitchers fed him a steady diet of down and down-and-away.

That's perplexing to me. Ramirez can't hit anything waste high with any consistency. Sox pitchers didn't seem inclined to pitch up against him, for some reason.

October26

06-22-2008, 11:57 PM

That statement was just so amazing, I may ponder that for the next 24 hours!

I think we lead the majors in most extreme fan mood swings :tongue:
:rolling: Stop yourself. We do lead the majors in this category because the way our White Sox play drives us to such madness!

DickAllen72

06-22-2008, 11:57 PM

As other have pointed out what is of concern is the pitching the past two weeks. They have been exceptional for almost the first three months, maybe beyond what was reasonably expected, but sooner or later without the offense giving them a break they'll crack...that may be starting we'll see.
Lip
That's why so many people were concerned with the way the Sox were blowing all those stellar pitching performances earlier in the year. You could see this coming. Now it's up to the offense to step up and do it's part consistently.

Parrothead

06-22-2008, 11:57 PM

You can hear the absolute strain and fatigue in Rongeys voice right now, the man is bending and cracking right before our very eyes....be strong Ranger!

No, I want to hear him crack, I missed it the other day.

Lip Man 1

06-22-2008, 11:58 PM

Irish:

The "pull only" mentality has been the M.O. of this organization since 2000 with the notable exception of 2005.

Why the Sox, in the face of what happened in 2005, continue to trot out the same type of team year after year is beyond my understanding.

That's something you'll have to ask the G.M.

Lip

SoxGirl4Life

06-22-2008, 11:58 PM

No, I want to hear him crack, I missed it the other day.

That's just wrong.

The White Sox should pay him extra after these losses. He should have made more than a few players last year. I couldn't be so retrained on the phone with some of these people.

Mohoney

06-22-2008, 11:59 PM

Rongey is on fire tonight. I can already tell. This second caller is doing well. Fire the advanced scouts. Ha. this is awesome.

I must be the only person here that dislikes Rongey. I think he's rapidly becoming a Hawk-level apologist, and that's not what I want from anybody analyzing my team. Everything is sunshine and lollipops in Chris Rongey's Gingerbread House, even after pathetic outings like this, and instead of just letting the looney callers vent some frustration, he goes to great lengths to make them look like simpletons and make himself look like some kind of baseball sage.

I know that a great deal of callers to his show (probably about 4 out of every 5) are completely bonkers, but it's his job to host a postgame call-in show, and the guy acts like he's ending world hunger with his responses to some of the callers. His sanctimonious act grew very tiresome last year, and in all honesty, I would like to see him replaced as soon as possible.

Melton doesn't sugarcoat things. Stone doesn't sugarcoat things. Give me more guys like that and less guys like Rongey and Hawk.

Tragg

06-22-2008, 11:59 PM

Is it Greg Walker? The players ignoring the reports...I have no idea. I'm just passing along what I am consistently being told in this matter.

Lip
That would be interesting to know what the gap is.
But it's obvious that the Sox field staff does not have an ethic of plate discipline, taking pitches, going the other way, and making the opposing pitcher work. Guillen gives it lip service once in a while - that's it.
Tonight was ridiculous in that regard.
Ramirez is going to turn into Uribe if they don't get someone to help him.

Viva Medias B's

06-23-2008, 12:00 AM

Current caller blaming Sox people giving the Cubs bulletin board material. The caller thinks KW, Ozzie, etc., should **** about trashing the Cubs and Wrigley Field. Rongey says he does not care and that it's kinda funny.

SoxGirl4Life

06-23-2008, 12:00 AM

Oh, here's another winner on the show. Wow.. he needs a valium.

Patrick134

06-23-2008, 12:01 AM

Irish:

The "pull only" mentality has been the M.O. of this organization since 2000 with the notable exception of 2005.

Why the Sox, in the face of what happened in 2005, continue to trot out the same type of team year after year is beyond my understanding.

Badmouthing actual players is bulletin board material. Ripping a deteriorating stadium hardly is, as plenty of Scrub players would probably like a better stadium as well.

southsideirish71

06-23-2008, 12:03 AM

That would be interesting to know what the gap is.
But it's obvious that the Sox field staff does not have an ethic of plate discipline, taking pitches, going the other way, and making the opposing pitcher work. Guillen gives it lip service once in a while - that's it.
Tonight was ridiculous in that regard.
Ramirez is going to turn into Uribe if they don't get someone to help him.

Ryan Sweeney was a kid who had a pretty swing, and little power. He was a line drive machine. As he progressed through our system his swing got out of wack. He developed a hole in his swing where he had a hard time against inside pitches. They trade him, and now he is hitting almost 300. The A's seemed to have fixed him and quickly. A line drive swing like that would look nice in our lineup. For years we have had all hitters come up with messed up swings. You watch other organizations, and you see kids come up with short quick swings. Their power develops later. Our guys work on power first. This is why we keep developing guys who hit .240 and can hit a bunch of home runs. The Rob Deer approach to hitting.

russ99

06-23-2008, 12:03 AM

We got 10 hits tonight, and one run; and 11 hits yesterday and 7 runs - and 9 hits on Friday. I'm not blaming the offense for this weekend, other than grounding into those rally-killing double plays.

The last guy who called, at least it wasnt the Twins. Well the Twins swept their series, and we got swept. Its the same as if we were swept by the twins.

Noneck

06-23-2008, 12:04 AM

Regarding the advanced scouting I've asked this question of some folks who are in the know since last year and I keep getting the same answer from all concerned. Bryan Little and his group do an outstanding job of providing the reports, something is happening from the time they deliver those reports until the time the Sox hitters and pitchers take the field.

Is it Greg Walker? The players ignoring the reports...I have no idea. I'm just passing along what I am consistently being told in this matter.

Lip

I've brought this up before but did not get an answer. Don't the players have access to video of all games previously played? Can't they for example grab a dvd of the dumpsters last 3 starts and watch them? And see what he throws in certain situations. With all the technology out there these days, I don't understand why players aren't totally prepared with or without the use of scouting reports. The technology is out there where a player should be able to get every at bat they ever had with a particular pitcher and watch it on their laptop.

WhiteSox5187

06-23-2008, 12:05 AM

We got 10 hits tonight, and one run; and 11 hits yesterday and 7 runs - and 9 hits on Friday. I'm not blaming the offense for this weekend, other than grounding into those rally-killing double plays.
On Friday the offense was to blame (though Dotel deserves some blame as well), Saturday it was the pitching, today it was the whole team.

No kidding. And Ranger's right. The media is the one that goads most of these comments. "Isn't Jim Edmonds the greatest hitter on earth?", "How do you feel about being second fiddle in Chicago even after you've won a World Series"? "Aren't the Cubs the best offensive hitting team you've seen this year"? But we only hear the quotes, not the questions that enticed them, usually.

And that last caller was a flub fan.

Viva Medias B's

06-23-2008, 12:06 AM

Badmouthing actual players is bulletin board material. Ripping a deteriorating stadium hardly is, as plenty of Scrub players would probably like a better stadium as well.

:moron
"Now, Patrick, you know that Wrigley Field is a baseball mecca. The Blizzard of Oz's neverending desecration of Cubdom and Wrigley Field has earned him and his Smut Sox going south team a deserved sweep at the hands of the cute, lovable, cuddly World Series championship-bound Cubbies!!!"

Cuck the Fubs

06-23-2008, 12:06 AM

No kidding. And Ranger's right. The media is the one that goads all these comments. "Isn't Jim Edmonds the greatest hitter on earth?", "How do you feel about being second fiddle in Chicago even after you've won a World Series"? "Aren't the Cubs the best offensive hitting team you've seen this year"? But we only hear the quotes, not the questions that enticed them, usually.

Remember you play half your games away from U.S. Cellular including some pitcher friendly parks like in Seattle, Oakland, Detroit.

You have to find ways to score runs when you aren't hitting home runs, it's that simple.

In 2005 the White Sox still hit over 200 home runs...yet they also found a ton of ways to score runs without one.

Again no one that I know of is saying home runs are bad, but if that's all you can do, you have a serious issue.

I personally think this 'well you have to hit home because of U.S. Cellular' is a crutch myself. Plenty of teams play in band box ballparks yet still can lay down a bunt, steal some bases advance from first to third on a single and so on.

This club can not do any of those...period, and it's costing them games they may be begging for in September.

Just my opinion.

Lip

JB98

06-23-2008, 12:08 AM

I've brought this up before but did not get an answer. Don't the players have access to video of all games previously played? Can't they for example grab a dvd of the dumpsters last 3 starts and watch them? And see what he throws in certain situations. With all the technology out there these days, I don't understand why players aren't totally prepared with or without the use of scouting reports. The technology is out there where a player should be able to get every at bat they ever had with a particular pitcher and watch it on their laptop.

Yes, they have a lot of video available. I hear Carlos Quentin is tireless in using video to prepare himself for games. Konerko is another guy who is big on video.

I'm pretty sure Gellinger's job is to provide the Sox hitters with all the video they could ever want.

A.J. pretty good going the opposite way as well, but he was obviously pressing tonight. The ump crew's ridiculous outside corner strikes (with Soto getting way too many framing calls for a rookie) didn't help things.

Also, Alexei is nowhere near like Uribe. He had a bad series, but he's a rookie making the jump to the majors from the Cuban league. Maybe a little patience is in order.

A big difference to me was having Konerko out. Konerko at 1B and Swisher in CF is a lot better than Swisher and Anderson/Wise. Especially so since we're essentially giving away outs in the 9 spot until the later innings.

I'd be for giving Thome a start at 1B in LA for a game. Can't hurt things.

I SO wish I could hear these dolts, but I'm in Georgia and I don't think the post-game show is streamed online....

Cuck the Fubs

06-23-2008, 12:09 AM

Cuck:

Remember you play half your games away from U.S. Cellular including some pitcher friendly park like in Seattle, Oakland, Detroit.

You have to find ways to score runs when you aren't hitting home runs, it's that simple.

In 2005 the White Sox still hit over 200 home runs...yet they also found a ton of ways to score runs without one.

Again no one that I know of is saying home runs are bad, but if that's all you can do, you have a serious issue.

I personally think this 'well you have to hit home because of U.S. Cellular is a crutch myself.' Plenty of teams play in band box ballparks yet still can lay down a bunt, steal some bases advance from first to third on a single and so on.

This club can not do any of those...period, and it's costing them games they may be begging for in September.

Just my opinion.

Lip

I agree with your opinion 100%

You did a much better job of expressing what I was thinking!

SoxGirl4Life

06-23-2008, 12:09 AM

Give that woman a prize!

You hit the nail on the head with this post :gulp:

:shrug: that's why i don't get mad at Ozzie for that crap.

Cuck the Fubs

06-23-2008, 12:10 AM

I SO wish I could hear these dolts, but I'm in Georgia and I don't think the post-game show is streamed online....

Georgia sounds like a nice place to be for the next few days :wink:

southsideirish71

06-23-2008, 12:10 AM

Cuck:

Remember you play half your games away from U.S. Cellular including some pitcher friendly park like in Seattle, Oakland, Detroit.

You have to find ways to score runs when you aren't hitting home runs, it's that simple.

In 2005 the White Sox still hit over 200 home runs...yet they also found a ton of ways to score runs without one.

Again no one that I know of is saying home runs are bad, but if that's all you can do, you have a serious issue.

I personally think this 'well you have to hit home because of U.S. Cellular is a crutch myself.' Plenty of teams play in band box ballparks yet still can lay down a bunt, steal some bases advance from first to third on a single and so on.

This club can not do any of those...period, and it's costing them games they may be begging for in September.

Just my opinion.

Lip

Its not this series that killed us. Its the losses when we give up 2 runs or less. Its when our pitchers have threw a great game, and we cant score at all. Our offense put us in this position. Now as it slows down a tad we are paying.

SoxGirl4Life

06-23-2008, 12:11 AM

I SO wish I could hear these dolts, but I'm in Georgia and I don't think the post-game show is streamed online....

No, you don't want to hear them. Half are drunk, and the sober ones don't make any sense.

kevingrt

06-23-2008, 12:11 AM

Why is everyone getting on Guillen for talking now? And it's not like he's ripping players or a team he's ripping the stadium. And what was Ozzie doing in 2005, talking.

And about Ozzie being "strategic" didn't he try a hit and run in the first inning today? And how can you bunt when your players simply cannot bunt? And people arguing about bunting is so annoying.

This Jim called needs to shut the hell up! Jim is the biggest winner of the bunch. Congrats Jim.

Viva Medias B's

06-23-2008, 12:11 AM

Rongey and a caller really getting into it! Sooner or later, he is going to yell at a dumb caller the same way [Sox fan] Jay Marvin used to yell at brain stems on WLS.

JB98

06-23-2008, 12:11 AM

A.J. pretty good going the opposite way as well, but he was obviously pressing tonight. The ump crew's ridiculous outside corner strikes (with Soto getting way too many framing calls for a rookie) didn't help things.

Also, Alexei is nowhere near like Uribe. He had a bad series, but he's a rookie making the jump to the majors from the Cuban league. Maybe a little patience is in order.

A big difference to me was having Konerko out. Konerko at 1B and Swisher in CF is a lot better than Swisher and Anderson/Wise. Especially so since we're essentially giving away outs in the 9 spot until the later innings.

I'd be for giving Thome a start at 1B in LA for a game. Can't hurt things.

Maybe give Thome a start Tuesday against Derek Lowe. I think the Dodgers are throwing lefties at us on Wednesday and Thursday, in which case we're probably better off with Swisher at 1B and Anderson in CF.

Wise actually swung the bat well the last two games. He collected three hits and had two lineouts. He's a low-ball hitter who happened to match up well with Marquis and Dempster. He matches up well with Lowe also.

SoxGirl4Life

06-23-2008, 12:12 AM

Why is everyone getting on Guillen for talking now? And it's not like he's ripping players or a team he's ripping the stadium. And what was Ozzie doing in 2005, talking.

And about Ozzie being "strategic" didn't he try a hit and run in the first inning today? And how can you bunt when your players simply cannot bunt? And people arguing about bunting is so annoying.

This Jim called needs to shut the hell up!

Rongey had the producer shut him up.. lol What an idiot.

Soxman219

06-23-2008, 12:12 AM

I just came back from the Cubs scrimmage game. :mad:

This has been the worst weekend for the Sox that I can remember. We lost that huge gap on the Twins, Cub fans are yapping a lot, that dumb "Go Cubs Go" song is stuck in my head, and all of a sudden the Tigers who we thought were left for dead are only 5 games back. We will get ripped and blasted on every media outlet in Chicago tomorrow.

I'm going to L.A. on Tuesday to see Buehrle face the Dodgers, I hope I'm not disappointed.

ChiSoxGirl

06-23-2008, 12:13 AM

Georgia sounds like a nice place to be for the next few days :wink:

I'll say! I've been down here since Friday and after getting a ton of texts updating me on the score of the games, all I've been saying is how glad I am to not be in Chicago for this! YIKES! I don't come back 'til Wednesday evening and hopefully the melee will have died down by then.

WhiteSox5187

06-23-2008, 12:13 AM

See this is where I think Rongey is 100% wrong about this team not needing guys who can bunt and move guys over. We can't rely on guys getting hits ALL the time...Jim is going nuts here though...if you bunt a guy like say Anderson over to third, then OC's fly out to right brings him in. It's not Ozzie's fault though that these guys can't bunt.

Noneck

06-23-2008, 12:13 AM

Yes, they have a lot of video available. I hear Carlos Quentin is tireless in using video to prepare himself for games. Konerko is another guy who is big on video.

I'm pretty sure Gellinger's job is to provide the Sox hitters with all the video they could ever want.

If that is the case, then only the players can be blamed, not the scouts or hitting coach. Rather than playing gin , watch the video and be prepared.

October26

06-23-2008, 12:13 AM

The post game show is wild!

HangWiffum

06-23-2008, 12:13 AM

:gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp::gulp::g ulp:

did this weekend really happen? or did i pass out and have a nightmare?

Blueprint1

06-23-2008, 12:13 AM

Rongey and a caller really getting into it! Sooner or later, he is going to yell at a dumb caller the same way Jay Marvin used to yell at brain stems on WLS.

Ha, I loved that show.

russ99

06-23-2008, 12:13 AM

I just came back from the Cubs scrimmage game. :mad:

This has been the worst weekend for the Sox that I can remember. We lost that huge gap on the Twins, Cub fans are yapping a lot, that dumb "Go Cubs Go" song is stuck in my head, and all of a sudden the Tigers who we thought were left for dead are only 5 games back. We will get ripped and blasted on every media outlet in Chicago tomorrow.

I'm going to L.A. on Tuesday to see Buehrle face the Dodgers, I hope I'm not disappointed.

I'm over it already, as long as we look a lot better next weekend.

Have fun in L.A.. That should be a great time. I have a feeling the guys will break out big time.

Rongey is now giving callers "Time Out" if they criticize Ozzie. Classic. :rolleyes:

SoxGirl4Life

06-23-2008, 12:14 AM

I just came back from the Cubs scrimmage game. :mad:

This has been the worst weekend for the Sox that I can remember. We lost that huge gap on the Twins, Cub fans are yapping a lot, that dumb "Go Cubs Go" song is stuck in my head, and all of a sudden the Tigers who we thought were left for dead are only 5 games back. We will get ripped and blasted on every media outlet in Chicago tomorrow.

I'm going to L.A. on Tuesday to see Buehrle face the Dodgers, I hope I'm not disappointed.

Charge up the I-pod, and watch reruns of something. Go back to Chicago media sometime after the All-Star break.

kevingrt

06-23-2008, 12:14 AM

Rongey and a caller really getting into it! Sooner or later, he is going to yell at a dumb caller the same way Jay Marvin used to yell at brain stems on WLS.

Rongey is on fire right now. I love it. And the producer got the "pop up" cut. I LUVE IT!!!

Ozzie screwed up at 12 AB's on Friday. Rongey needs some meds. But you gotta love him. I'm happy that Dave Wills isn't doing this he probably would have already keeled over.

southsideirish71

06-23-2008, 12:14 AM

Maybe give Thome a start Tuesday against Derek Lowe. I think the Dodgers are throwing lefties at us on Wednesday and Thursday, in which case we're probably better off with Swisher at 1B and Anderson in CF.

Wise actually swung the bat well the last two games. He collected three hits and had two lineouts. He's a low-ball hitter who happened to match up well with Marquis and Dempster. He matches up well with Lowe also.

Kershaw is the scary matchup. Big curveball, good change. explosive fastball. If we free swing, he will mow our team down. We need to be patient and get into deep counts.

Droso5

06-23-2008, 12:14 AM

That's just wrong.

The White Sox should pay him extra after these losses. He should have made more than a few players last year. I couldn't be so retrained on the phone with some of these people.

It is The Rangers job to take the abuse, although he has become a bit more feisty towards the more drunk and stupid callers and that adds to the entertainment, but you can just feel the strain and pending collapse in his voice and with every show he looses just a bit more of his humanity.

As Ivan Drago said in Rocky IV "If he dies, he dies...."

Also, another epic caller!

Jim from Beacher!

Calling Rongey an apologist for the team!

Stupidity concerning all things baseball!

Yelling at Rongey and telling him "NO YOU'RE WRONG"!!

It's all Ozzie's fault! Fire Him!

Ranger fires back! Patronizes Big Jim for the better part of 5 minutes!

Rongey is now giving callers "Time Out" if they criticize Ozzie. Classic. :rolleyes:
He should have just cut him off.

Also loved Ozzie's response: Was tonight loss the toughest? "Nope." What did you think of Javy's performance? "Not good."

ChiSoxGirl

06-23-2008, 12:17 AM

No, you don't want to hear them. Half are drunk, and the sober ones don't make any sense.

Based on what the people below my response are saying is going on, I think I DO want to hear this! :wink:

The post game show is wild!

Rongey is on fire right now. I love it. And the producer got the "pop up" cut. I LUVE IT!!!

It is The Rangers job to take the abuse, although he has become a bit more feisty towards the more drunk and stupid callers and that adds to the entertainment, but you can just feel the strain and pending collapse in his voice and with every show he looses just a bit more of his humanity.

As Ivan Drago said in Rocky IV "If he dies, he dies...."

Also, another epic caller!

Jim from Beacher!

Calling Rongey an apologist for the team!

Stupidity concerning all things baseball!

Yelling at Rongey and telling him "NO YOU'RE WRONG"!!

It's all Ozzie's fault! Fire Him!

Ranger fires back! Patronizes Big Jim for the better part of 5 minutes!

EPIC!

SoxGirl4Life

06-23-2008, 12:17 AM

He should have just cut him off.

Also loved Ozzie's response: Was tonight loss the toughest? "Nope." What did you think of Javy's performance? "Not good."

"I'm sending him down to Charlotte tomorrow and bringing up Loaiza"
:rolling:

kevingrt

06-23-2008, 12:17 AM

He should have just cut him off.

Also loved Ozzie's response: Was tonight loss the toughest? "Nope." What did you think of Javy's performance? "Not good."

Question: "Ozzie you think you are going to make any changes?'

Ozzie: "No, we just have to play better."

Ding-dong we have a winner!

JB98

06-23-2008, 12:17 AM

If that is the case, then only the players can be blamed, not the scouts or hitting coach. Rather than playing gin , watch the video and be prepared.

Primarily, it is always up to the players, yes. Even if they are being given all the right information and instruction, they still must execute.

Talent + preparation + execution = wins.

Tragg

06-23-2008, 12:18 AM

If we free swing, he will mow our team down. We need to be patient and get into deep counts.
If?

October26

06-23-2008, 12:19 AM

"I'm sending him down to Charlotte tomorrow and bringing up Loaiza"
:rolling:

Even in this dark hour, Ozzie still makes me laugh.

SoxGirl4Life

06-23-2008, 12:19 AM

Based on what the people below my response are saying is going on, I think I DO want to hear this! :wink:

Yeah.. I can understand. But really, I listen to the show because other people's reactions make my feelings about games like this weekend seem alot more rational.

WhiteSox5187

06-23-2008, 12:19 AM

If?
That's kinda what I was thinking.

SoxGirl4Life

06-23-2008, 12:20 AM

Question: "Ozzie you think you are going to make any changes?'

Ozzie: "No, we just have to play better."

Ding-dong we have a winner!

No kidding. What do they want him to say? "I'm going to change the whole team because we lost three to the Cubs"

BoysMom3

06-23-2008, 12:21 AM

I live on the northside as well.....I expect no life disruptions either.

Well, I did lose a friendly bet, I have to fly a Cub flag on my house until Friday:redface:

Other than that, life is good man:D:

Ooops. Well that sucks but also makes me laugh.

Let's cut down on the walks and the high pitch counts next time we play these bums. They have 2 dangerous hitters and we can't stop them. The bottom 5 had 2 ****in hits tonight for the Cubs, but we pissed our pants, AGAIN, against their only 2 dangerous guys, and they batted every time with men on base it seemed. And somebody better watch some film of Patterson during the off day tomorrow too. Ridiculous. Ricky ****in Henderson reborn.

No kidding. I kept thinking - this is their rookie - wth?!! He was on!

Let's move on and win the next several games to widen that gap between us and the Twins.

kevingrt

06-23-2008, 12:21 AM

Yeah.. I can understand. But really, I listen to the show because other people's reactions make my feelings about games like this weekend seem alot more rational.

Same here. It makes me feel a little better inside. And I guess more so in my head.

areilly

06-23-2008, 12:21 AM

This has been the worst weekend for the Sox that I can remember. We lost that huge gap on the Twins, Cub fans are yapping a lot, that dumb "Go Cubs Go" song is stuck in my head, and all of a sudden the Tigers who we thought were left for dead are only 5 games back. We will get ripped and blasted on every media outlet in Chicago tomorrow.

A manager, general manager, pitcher and catcher spend the week talking **** about the Cubs, then the Sox proceed get their asses handed to them while the Twins and Tigers keep winning. Anything that comes their way over this series is entirely deserved and mostly self-inflicted.

russ99

06-23-2008, 12:22 AM

That's kinda what I was thinking.

With Paul out and Jim limited to PH duty, the only real free-swinger offender is Crede.

Everyone else in the lineup has been pretty patient, surprisingly, even Uribe when he gets in.

Hopefully getting out of this media hype ****storm, the guys can relax in LA and get back to what they've been doing during the two winning streaks. Maybe this trip to LA is a blessing in disguise.

SoxGirl4Life

06-23-2008, 12:22 AM

And on cue as to when to turn the radio off, who did he say was coming in after the post-game show to do the Cubbie love-fest til 2? Abbatacola? :puking:

Tragg

06-23-2008, 12:22 AM

Ryan Sweeney was a kid who had a pretty swing, and little power. He was a line drive machine. As he progressed through our system his swing got out of wack. He developed a hole in his swing where he had a hard time against inside pitches. They trade him, and now he is hitting almost 300. The A's seemed to have fixed him and quickly. A line drive swing like that would look nice in our lineup. For years we have had all hitters come up with messed up swings. You watch other organizations, and you see kids come up with short quick swings. Their power develops later. Our guys work on power first. This is why we keep developing guys who hit .240 and can hit a bunch of home runs. The Rob Deer approach to hitting.
I don't know if you're right, but it makes sense.
This field staff wasn't impressed with Ryan Sweeney. But they were awed by Jerry Owens.

To others, yes, Jim Thome and Quentin take pitches and go the other way. But this is a free swinging team. the staff likes "aggressive" young hitters. Aggressive = swing at everything. I know I keep saying it but : Owens-Ramirez Quentin was the depth chart for the last OF spot; Uribe-Ramirez at 2B. That's free swinging.

Ramirez MIGHT be a special player if he learns the strike zone. It's a big gamble that he can hit his way to .330; lay off the bad stuff and it's a lot easier to get there.

Viva Medias B's

06-23-2008, 12:23 AM

"I'm sending him down to Charlotte tomorrow and bringing up Loaiza"
:rolling:

I can just see Tailgunner Joe calling up KW and telling him this quote from Ozzie without saying that Ozzie was joking...

:KW
"HE MOTHER****ING SAID WHAT!?!""

:roflmao:

chisoxmike

06-23-2008, 12:23 AM

I knew they were going to be swept after Friday's loss.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, Javier Vazquez can not pitch for a first place team.

SoxGirl4Life

06-23-2008, 12:24 AM

I knew they were going to be swept after Friday's loss.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, Javier Vazquez can not pitch for a first place team.

Can I have the winning lotto numbers for Tuesday? I don't want to go to work tomorrow :smile:

Soxman219

06-23-2008, 12:25 AM

Charge up the I-pod, and watch reruns of something. Go back to Chicago media sometime after the All-Star break.

I don't have an iPod, but I do have a Zune.:cool:

russ99

06-23-2008, 12:25 AM

I knew they were going to be swept after Friday's loss.

I've said it once and I'll say it again, Javier Vazquez can not pitch for a first place team.

Your second statement is pretty ridiculous, but the first one is spot on, as the Cubs seem to thrive on momentum. Which is why we need to bring the smackdown on Friday.

WhiteSox5187

06-23-2008, 12:25 AM

I still think that some balance to this offense would do us a world of good.

russ99

06-23-2008, 12:26 AM

I still think that some balance to this offense would do us a world of good.

The trade deadline is only 39 days away. So something may be done to take care of that sooner rather than later.

Tragg

06-23-2008, 12:27 AM

I still think that some balance to this offense would do us a world of good.
What kind of balance?

Noneck

06-23-2008, 12:28 AM

Your second statement is pretty ridiculous,

Not ridiculous at all, maybe he could as the 4 or5 but no way as the stopper.

WhiteSox5187

06-23-2008, 12:28 AM

The trade deadline is only 39 days away. So something may be done to take care of that sooner rather than later.
I think the only piece we have that people might want is Fields...not many people here are willing to part with him, I might though.

Lip Man 1

06-23-2008, 12:28 AM

Sox Girl:

Well Ozzie could have responded this way. "Well we've lost eight of 12 so I'll get together with Kenny and compare notes maybe we'll shake things up a little."

Lip

BoysMom3

06-23-2008, 12:28 AM

I just got back from that game. I should have just stayed at home and slammed my nuts in the door 5-6 times - it would have been just as fun.

If we do make the playoffs this year, I do not want Javy Vazquez starting any big game.

Falling off my dang chair laughing.

areilly

06-23-2008, 12:28 AM

Your second statement is pretty ridiculous, but the first one is spot on, as the Cubs seem to thrive on momentum. Which is why we need to bring the smackdown on Friday.

No, it's true: Vazquez' performances year in and year out have actually been entirely inverse to his employer's performance that same year.

russ99

06-23-2008, 12:29 AM

What kind of balance?

Me personally, I want a real leadoff guy. Either in center or 2B. A backup starter would be nice too.

Any gutting of our core guys won't happen this season.

WhiteSox5187

06-23-2008, 12:29 AM

What kind of balance?
Some one who can get on, steal bases, bunt guys over...we have enough power hitters.