The major things I have picked out so far …Models include Drive 52, DriveSmart 55, DriveSmart 65Built in traffic receiver (Garmin eliminated the bundled traffic receiver in the 2017 models)3D terrain views available again (eliminated on previous Drive models)Smartphone Link app replaced with Drive app including free weather and traffic camerasNo replacement for the DriveLuxe series.

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Thanks Alan, was meaning to check and see if Garmin had announced anything for CES. That DriveSmart 65 sure looks like the same hardware as my DriveSmart 61. Would be nice to have the 3d terrain, but we know that Garmin won't do that with a firmware update (even though they could). ;)

The 5.5" edge to edge screen on the DriveSmart 55 looks nice.

But I wonder if they brought back the 3d map browser from the Nuvi 3xxx? I liked that better than the DriveSmart 61, which has the old map browser. The screenshot below might be a clue.... a major difference in the 3d browser was that it showed the sky and horizon, but this appears to have the horizon at the top edge of the screen, like the DriveSmart 61. So they have probably just added 3d terrain withoug changing anything else.

Can't see anything here that would make me want to upgrade, but it's nice to see they have at least introduced some new devices and brought back 3d terrain.

I'll buy one.. I know they'll be better in their own ways as Garmin always does to each new model. Seems they are listening to folks.. now traffic cable is included..for those without cell phones and Smart link is still there. Live track is gone. I like the Nat park data. I go to many of them a year across the USA and I now use files from other sources which can be wacked out and hoaky. Ask me how I know..

Based on your post in another thread, I gather that the reason you find the Drive app "totally worthless" is because the older Smart Link app allowed you to perform tasks like viewing weather, traffic, parking, etc. directly on your phone, but the new Drive App has removed these features, and they are only available through menus on the DriveSmart 65. Is that right?

So I guess it depends on exactly what you expect... if you don't want to use the app directly on your phone, you would still have all the features on the GPS itself. Personally, the only thing I ever use the Smart Link app for is traffic on my DriveSmart 61. And it has been a pain about connecting through bluetooth at times.

But we probably shouldn't be surprised that Garmin is simplifying their apps. The killed the StreetPilot App (that was only available on iOS) last year. They killed the Navigon app for Android and iOS within the past year or two. They killed the Viago app for Android/iOS about 9 months after introducing it. And now they have stopped development of Basecamp and MapInstall.... leaving a major bug that prevents you from sending maps from Basecamp to your GPS along with a 32-bit program that will break with the next version of MacOS.

FWIW, the pattern that I see is that Garmin is really only interested in selling hardware, not wasting time developing or maintaining automotive apps. So they stripped the Drive app down to the minimum that was required to provide connected services on the GPS. And they got rid of StreetPilot, Viago and Navigon because they don't want to maintain them... but also because they don't want to sell apps that compete with their own hardware sales.

Then they are dumping Basecamp because they don't want to maintain it, and don't really think anyone wants to do route planning on their computer anyway. And they are also no longer interested in supporting third party maps that depend on MapInstall to put them on the GPS.

Sorry I’m a newbie. I don’t know what happened to rest of my comment. I’ll shorten it up this time. 1) does the DriveSmart65 have the traffic receiver in the cable where I don’t need to have the Garmin paired to iPhone 2) does the preloaded maps cover Canada as well as North America.

Yes, your DriveSmart 65 has built in traffic. You can tell if the traffic receiver is built in to the device itself or in the power adapter by looking at the model number on the power adapter. If you have a TA-20 power adapter, the traffic is built into the device. If it is a GTM model (like the GTM-60) the traffic receiver is in the power adapter.

Note that your DriveSmart is also compatible with the Drive app on your phone for traffic. If you use the Drive app for traffic, it will take precedence over the traffic receiver. In general, the traffic coverage using the phone app is superior to the coverage you get through the receiver.

On the DriveSmart 65, your pre-loaded maps should be the full North America version including Canada and Mexico. According to the device features on Garmin's web site: "Garmin DriveSmart 65 includes preloaded street maps for the U.S., Mexico, Canada, Puerto Rico, U.S. Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands and Bahamas. Built-in Wi-Fi connectivity makes it easy to keep your maps and software up to date without the use of a computer."