Russian state-owned company Technopromexport has announced it will build a thermal power plant in Serbia within three years. The company Wednesday signed a contract with Serbia and Switzerland's Mentor Energy, company officials said. The construction of the plant, with two 450-megawatt blocks, is estimated to cost $877 million. Maja Gojkovich, mayor of the Serbian town Novi Sad, where the plant will be built, said the project will greatly benefit the economy of the town and the country, the RIA Novosti news agency reported. "It will provide work for 5,000 to 6,000 Serbs and guarantee orders for a number of Serbian businesses," she said. Technopromexport, a leading electricity exporter and builder of energy facilities, has a number of projects in foreign countries, including India, where it is participating in the construction of a thermal power plant and the upgrading of the Obra power plant. The company also plans to win a $500 million tender for the construction of a 1,900-megawatt power plant in India's North Karanpura.

Npw, Maja Gojkovic is from pro-Russian Radical party. 7 days ago European Union stoped negotiations with Serbia due to non cooperation with UN court, also US is likley tostop aid to Serbia. On other side Russia is pumping aid to parts of Serbia iwth pro-russian administration while pro-western goverment is stranded.

What will happen? Pro-russians will win. Simple logic, Russia is helping us, west is pushing us.

Im afraid of that, but that is what is gonan happen if nothing changes on the west...

Exactly Bokababe, Serbia is by default western country, yet buisiness is buisiness, andmaking money is a postulate for building true democracy, cause only in deceloped country where people are not hugry, you can have democracy.

Japan finances Serbia economic reforms

BELGRADE, Serbia-Montenegro, May 11 (UPI) -- Japan has made grants totaling $800,000 to stimulate reforms and employment in private and finance sectors in Serbia-Montenegro.

Japan's Ambassador Tadashi Nagai said the grant was aimed at offering technical assistance in improving fiscal management, business climate and stabilization of the financial sector.

He said the Japanese government "believes that re-structuring these sectors is essential" for Serbia-Montenegro, which is turning its post-communist system into a free-market economy, the Serbian radio-television reported.

Nagai attended a ceremony at which officials of Serbia-Montenegro and the World Bank signed an agreement on Japan's donation.

Japan has donated more than $8 million to Serbia-Montenegro in the past five years.

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posted on 05/12/2006 1:04:53 PM PDT
by kronos77
(www.savekosovo.org say NO to Al-Qaeda new sanctuary)

You can talk about socialism all you want, but the basic fact of the matter is that Serbia is the one place in the balkans inhabited by normal, middle class people. Serbia will rise again, Kosovo will belong to Serbia again, and you and all your narco-terrorist relatives over there in Tirana will be sitting there breeding yourselves into extinction in projects which look like Gangs of New York in your own place because every other place in the balkans will have thrown your goofy asses out. In fact, at some point fairly soon, ALL slammites will get heaved out of Europe.

In fact America's out of control state department may still be stuck in some sort of clintonista wet dream regarding policy in the balkans, but obviously other countries including Russia and Japan are not.

You can talk about socialism all you want, but the basic fact of the matter is that Serbia is the one place in the balkans inhabited by normal, middle class people. ___________________________________________________________

Nobody has said it better!!

__________________________________________________________ Kosovo will belong to Serbia again

Always will be. ________________________________________________________ America's out of control state department may still be stuck in some sort of clintonista wet dream regarding policy in the balkans, but obviously other countries including Russia and Japan are not.

___________________________________________________ Are you reading this out there neocons!

On other side Russia is pumping aid to parts of Serbia iwth pro-russian administration

According to the article Russian company will build thermal plant but nothing about any aid. If you will pay them, they will build it, quite simple.

Im afraid of that, but that is what is gonan happen if nothing changes on the west...

Why do you think that somebody in the west would care wherever such a small country like Serbia will serve the interest of Russia or not? I think that is rather your problem and if your compatriots wish that to happen, let it be and Im not a big fun of Kremlin as you probably are well aware.

Basically, if there was any one thing you could count on with Slick KKKlinton it was that any time, anywhere in the world, should the interests of ordinary middle class people came into conflict with the interests of trash, you could absolutely count on KKKlinton to come down four-square on the side of the trash. Albanians and Bosnians of course are beyond trash; they're the kind of people who give trash a bad name.

After 15 years of embargoes and 3 months of indiscriminate bombing (primarily targeting the country's manufacturing plants), it's a miracle that the GDP stands at $2,800. It's closer to $4,000 - but that's not the point. We won't let the facts get in the way.

Serbia is being prevented from properly developing its economy. Don't tell me that Slovenia with no conceivable profitable resources can have a GDP of $20,000 whilst Serbia, abundant in all kinds of natural resources and industry, with an educated, English-speaking population very much in touch with the world they live in, has a GDP 5-7 times smaller than Slovenia's. BS!

I don't put much stock into the official rankings anyway, because it is obvious that Bosnia -- with no economy to speak of -- can't have a greater GDP than Serbia. Yet, miraculously it does.

Or perhaps you were talking about Kosovo Albanians? Yes, I understand the sale of narcotics, semtex and the sex slave trade can be quite lucrative -- at least for now. But when the Euros go home, offering up your little brother for sex won't be quite so lucrative and your people may actually have to work for a living!

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posted on 05/12/2006 5:54:28 PM PDT
by Bokababe
(The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance)

I am well aware...but there are those who like Rip Van winkle who long for the "good old days" under the muslim Ottoman Turks...you know when kids were kidnapped turned to janissaries and young girls were snatched into harems and whole Christian villages who did not submit were basically "disappeared"...

They come slinking out now and again...there's one of those odd ones posting on this thread.

The only thing preventing Serbia from developing its economy is the Serbs - by choosing to cling to a discredited socialist/nationalist legacy, they're getting exactly what they're asking for: poverty and international isolation. Slovenia has used the 15 years since independence to get their economy together, and the results are inescapable to the objective observer.

Slovenia, btw, has an economy "only" ~1/3rd larger than Serbia's, due to there being 5 times as many folks in Serbia.

Being an American of English descent, I've got that puritan work ethic ingrained, so it's not an issue.

But as far as Albania, considering where they were coming from, they'd have been hard pressed to worsen their economic condition. Fortunately for them, they've had leaders who haven't exacerbated their problems, unlike Serbia.

At some point in the future, I expect Serbia will regain its historical economic position in regards to its neighbors, but that isn't going to happen until it turns its back on the kind of simpleton thinking exhibited by you and those like you here on FR.

Quite frankly, I feel embarrassed for your ignorance, and saddened by Serbia's continuing plight - they're both tragedies in their own way.

"Quite frankly, I feel embarrassed for your ignorance, and saddened by Serbia's continuing plight - they're both tragedies in their own way."

I may have been mistaken about your ethnicity, for which you have my apologies. However, based on your advocacy of all things pro-Muslim, pro-Albanian in the Balkans and your obvious dislike of Serbs, it was an easy mistake to make.

No need for pitying me, Hoplite. I am an American Montenegrin Serb, for several generations.The last of my family arrived in the US over 80 years ago and my father was in the US Army during WWII. I have an MA, and am, financially, pretty much living the American Dream" my ancestors hoped for when they came to the US.

Has it ever occurred to you that the people who live over there, plus the people who live here (or in Europe) and have studied Balkan politics & history for many years before these wars started, may know more about it than you? Most Americans couldn't have located what "continent" Bosnia was on before 1992 -- but suddenly, they are "CNN experts"! Or they marry into it and think that they know it all. Give me a break!

I know who my people are, what their strengths and weaknesses are as a culture. They aren't perfect, they aren't all "saints", but they aren't "demons", either. And continual "humilation" doesn't tend to bring out the best in them -- or in anyone else, for that matter.

But when "the scimitar" is knocking at your door in smalltown USA saying, "Convert or die" -- trust me, you'll want a Serb on your side to protect you if you haven't killed or ethnically cleansed them all out of existence by then!

BB

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posted on 05/12/2006 8:31:56 PM PDT
by Bokababe
(The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance)

And Slovenia had the best economy of all, even when it was part of Yugoslavia. If I were them, I'd have wanted to take a walk, too.

But I can recall Slovenia in the 1970's, when an American half-Slovene, half-Serb friend of mine said to me, "Why is it that in Slovenia, they can put up a McDonald's and Tito calls it communism. But in Serbia, they can't even have a farm collective without Tito saying that it isn't communist enough! What is that madman doing?"

Tito was "mad" like a fox.

The Slovenes and Croats, individually, were never any real threat to Tito's power -- he was half-Slovene and half-Croat himself. The Bosnian Muslims and Albanians were never any real threat to his power, either. As a matter of fact, "Tito's Muslims" were an excellent "trading card" for doing business in the ME.

Right after WWII, Tito also fancied himself becoming the "Stalin of the Balkans", and this is why he broke with the real Stalin. It is also why Tito imported Albanians into Kosovo and wouldn't let Serbs return (so he could take over Albania with his homegrown variety). Tito backed the communist side of the Greek civil war, hoping to add Greece to his realm. But this plan never worked out for him and he had to settle for Yugoslavia, alone.

But the only ethnic group who was any real continuing threat to Tito was the Serbs, because they were the single largest ethnic group in Yugoslavia, they had a history of democracy, and they had a huge active diaspora expelled after WWII for fighting against communism.

So Tito kept "his enemies" (the Serbs) closer than his friends. Tito made Serbs into "real Yugoslavs", involving them at every level of the government, overlapping their territories (the Krajina and Dalmatia have only been part of Croatia since post WWII)with the Croats, dividing off Kosovo -- in short, making sure that Serbs were so invested in communist Yugoslavia that they dare not rebel or lose everything dear to them.

American Serbs had been telling Yugoslav Serbs for years that they were being set up to fail because they were the only ones so invested in Yugoslavia, but they wouldn't listen.

And likewise, neither would America listen to anything but "pro-Tito Yugoslavia". The US State Department was more pro-Tito than any Yugoslavs were. Twice initiatives were passed by the US Congress to honor Tito's WWII rival here in the US for saving the lives of over 500 American flyers during WWII, and twice those initiatives were shot down by the US State Department because "it might offend Tito". US Serbs couldn't even get the second in command of WWII Nazi Croatia, Andrija Artukovic, deported. The SOB was living openly in San Pedro, CA for over thirty years and was responsible for the deaths of several hundred thousand Serbs, Jews and Gypsies. Finally, the Jews went after him and got the job done after Tito died, because -- even as Americans -- we couldn't do a damn thing about it.

So the failure of Yugoslavia, post-Tito, was expected. The bloody wars over Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo, predictable. The Serbs as "the bad guys", likewise predictable.

Sad, but it's been like watching a car accident from a distance in slow motion. Nothing you can do while it happening except help the wounded once it is over.

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posted on 05/12/2006 9:26:33 PM PDT
by Bokababe
(The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance)

The entire Clinton Adminstration is a collection of losers. 67% of his administration couldn't get a security clearance due to background checks due to their behaviors and criminal records, arrests, finanical misdealings etc...fact actually....

Clinton was the biggest loser of all and in fact fabricated most of the reasons to go into the Balkans, after Milosevic became a serbian nationalist in the late 80's and turned his back on the CIA...true story.

They we introduced the Muh. into Bosnia, fabricated the massacres, provoked the Serbs into Bosnia and yes they came on a bit heavy handed, agreed, but nowhere near what the lying media reported. Fact hoppie.....

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posted on 05/13/2006 5:43:35 AM PDT
by tgambill
(I would like to comment.....)

Trust me, you'll want a Serb on your side to protect you if you haven't killed or ethnically cleansed them all out of existence by then

Well, we'll give you a call when we decide to ethnically cleanse the American Southwest of Hispanics, m'kay?

Just kidding, of course - America's core values and those of Serbia aren't compatible so long as Serbia is a nation or group which identifies itself by who one's parents are, and that doesn't look to change anytime in the near future, does it?

Further, I'm really not interested in hearing the Serb story of oppression under Tito yet again - each of Yugoslavia's ethnicities has a beef with Tito's methods and legacy. As of now, Serbia is responsible for its present condition, not Tito or any of his contemporaries.

"You might not be, but some of your fellow Serbs back in the Balkans are as up into their necks in those activities as their Albanian neighbors." No country in the world is without "individual criminals". Serbia -- & the US, for that matter --are not exceptions. However, "the pervasity of criminality" in a country or an ethnic group is what is at issue. Albanians are well-known as the "drug and sex-slave dealers of Europe", while Serbs are not: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/1999/05/11/MN20212.DTL http://www.humantrafficking.com/humantrafficking/features/MSNBC_Sex_Slaves/europesexslaves5.aspx http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/sskos.htm The news stories on Albanians (and in many cases, specifically Kosovo Albanians) associated with the traffic of drugs and sex slaves are too numerous to ignore -- while few if any stories associate "Serbs" with those activities . So, unfortunately for you Hoplite, it is your childish tit-for-tat statement which has "no factual basis" whatever.

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posted on 05/14/2006 10:40:35 AM PDT
by Bokababe
(The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance)

I did....and lo and behold one took the bait. The sucker is you in believing the BS, as the proof is there. You are one of the worse in that you have the knowledge, the research and the background yet you lie due to some misguided loyality to the Clinton Administration and their underhanded dealings. You worked for them once, and now you are just a loyal subject supporting the lies perpetrated from this wacky former group of spin doctors. Most Americans have no clue as to the truth as some don't even know where Kosovo is located on a map......you are different, you know the situation and still fail to tell the truth due to your political, or personal agenda, loyality, or whatever. It's a very dangerous game that is being played and there is no Plan B for the U.S., NATO or UN involvement. It's a bandaid and agreements based on Power and misplaced politics.

They (the perps in this), could care less that hundreds of innocent Albanians, Bosnians, Croats, Serbs, are murdered and those that will be murdered after the independence if it occurs.

It's not BS its absolute truth, and you know it. You have war criminals that are Serbs being chased. Then you have War Criminals from the KLA who are members of the Mafia, getting pardoned and made leaders of political parties and prime Ministers. Seems a little one sided, you think? yet no one says a thing........

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posted on 05/15/2006 2:44:43 AM PDT
by tgambill
(I would like to comment.....)

Actually, where I think you have worked I can't mention here mainly because it's against the rules, so I won't.

Secondly, Srebrenica did happen but 2,000-3,000 insurgents or combatants were killed not 8,000 as said before. Granted, the Serbs did execute POW's, which is what they are on trial for. The Serb nationalist are protecting their middle level commanders and police chief's BTW.

Rajak was a set up also, as the Frence, Spainish and several other investigating teams indicated that many reasons and observations, to include the KLA's behavior with the OSCE observers, the bodies being moved, and the quick burial of the 9 bodies that it is suspected were actual KLA. Rajak was a KLA stronghold, they provoked the Serbs and either the KLA killed the 40-45...or they were killed by the shelling after the Serbs were provoked. Speculation also indicates that they might have been killed by the NATO bombing which was very out of control (or maybe not), and killed civilians both Serbs and Albanians. The bodies were placed in Rajak to appear like a massacre. Either way, the scene and bodies did not indicate a massacre. This is a long story very short........there were a few mass graves in Kosovo but not as previously reported by the Clinton Adminitration. Where are the 10,000 dead bodies....They only found 2,100 and some odd number, with three bodies here, five there, etc......the most they found was 22 bodies and confirmed they were Serbs buried in a mass grave.......

If you believe the whole story, then they have lied to you as well. If you are part of the lie, shame on you.

Tom

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posted on 05/16/2006 1:07:10 AM PDT
by tgambill
(I would like to comment.....)

I have been told that the site.. www.savekosovo.org of which is designed to tell the truth about Kosovo, has been attacked by another organization. They made up a dummy site called www.savekosova.org to through people off. The fight for Kosovo Independence has taken a nasty turn. It's a fact that there has been 32 attacks on minotities, which included property damage from 1-11 May 2006. I've got the reports and in addition, sources in CivPol have informed me that the UN said to not report this outside the chain. These reports from 1-11 may are only scratching the surface of what's going on within Kosovo.

Montenegro is heading to Independence to join Kosovo to become a Mafia state as well. May I venture a "guess", that International powers are targeting Macedonia between now and 2010 to be broken up as well.

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posted on 05/22/2006 4:38:36 AM PDT
by tgambill
(I would like to comment.....)

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