I hope Ms Czerski posts a YouTube video. (And a few more ‘selfies’ would go amiss!)Here is one taken on the 2015 expedition.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mNw6fXu1KkThe ice they’re breaking their way through looks easily 2m thick to me . . .

“That” trip with Runa Skarbø was in 2016. Ms Czerski et al are there right NOW!Why I’d like to see a video is to see the broken ice – i.e. how thick it is.Note that in the 2015 YouTube video there are numerous sequences showing broken ice well in excess of 2m thick. And a caption stating that the ship (“50 Let Probedy”) is making 4 knots through 6-foot thick ice.(I wonder of the Oden can do that?)

RE: “Czerski SAID that the ice en route was 1.5m.”I’m sure she did. And she might even report it in a forthcoming scientific paper. But “Nullius in Verba” – as all true scientists say.I want to see video – preferably date stamped.

Sure, the Oden’s spec. sheet says it can do 3kts in 1.9m ice. Czerski says that the floe they’re photoed on is a metre thick.https://www.helenczerski.net/at-sea/13-aug2018Here’s another description of the journey:“On the way there, we encountered a variety of ice conditions: First the passage was relatively easy when water channels were present amongst the floes. Then the first year ice became denser and the icebreaker started working harder, still making a decent 5 knots, roughly 9 km/h. We could see plenty of dark melt ponds and many open leads. A couple days later, the winds finally put Oden to a test. The steady easterly wind had pushed the ice towards our track, making it a very dense pack, up to two meters thick, and with ridges. Moving north happened at a much slower pace then, roughly 3 knots.”So it seems like it maxed at about 2m.

Re: ““On the way there, we encountered a variety of ice conditions . . . . etc. ”You don’t get it do you? Where’s the evidence? Just citing what someone said (or wrote, or tweeted) is not evidence. What were the measurements? How were they done?

“The most urgent thing is to start the measurements in the so-called Open Lead, a larger run of open water, focusing on measuring the process when bubbles in the water rise to the surface, burst and release different gases into the air.”

Personally I give a monthly donation that goes directly feeds them. I also fight against genocidal a55holes like you, Jim. Your anti-human religion is my main focus, I spend all day telling people how you zealots hate poor brown people, and nongenocidal people get it.

Face it Jim, you are in a tiny minority, a small group of fascist anti-human religious zealots who think they have it all figured out. A final solution, if you will.

You can see from the smug questions that bigots like Jim don’t think for a second that those opposing them could be poor brown people. The global warming scam is entirely a movement of well-to-do white people with a little help from a few members of “professional brown minority” in the West.

You see Jim, I value human life, and do not place ice and/or bears above them. You, OTOH, work to create alarmism which funnels finite resources towards a leftist totalitarian dream and away from millions of innocent humans who starve annually.

I do not know of any mass murderers who embraced their true identity, so you fit right in Genocide Jim.

USS Skate first surfaced at the Pole on 17th March 1959. That is not a photo of that occasion it is at Ice Station Alpha. On the August 1958 trip they surfaced in open polynas well away from the Pole, some of which were too small for complete surfacing. The first one was the one where they encountered a polar bear, the closest they got to the pole was 40 miles, after which the went to Alpha at 85ºN. On the trip in March 1959 the Skate had been modified to break through the ice. They first practicing surfacing through thin ice in a polyna (they called them ‘skylights’). When they reached the pole they found it was thick ice more than 10 feet thick, they eventually found a thinner lead which they were able to surface through although it was the thickest ice they had broken through to date.This is the photo from the N Pole:http://library.osu.edu/blogs/nautilus/files/2017/06/wilkins35_5_4.jpgAt the time the wind was 30knots and the temperature was -24ºF.The sides of the lead were piled high with hummocks which Capt. Calvert described as “the heaviest and ruggedest hummocks he had yet seen in the Arctic” (so more than 15 feet high). Several later attempts to break through weren’t successful however for another three days. Their last lead they were on the surface for 15 hrs doing some repairs during that time the ice closed in on them.Quite a contrast to the shots of the Oden you posted, especially since they were anchored to a floe with open water behind the ship, that was the nearest floe they could walk on to the Pole (~0.75 nm from the Pole).http://greatwhitecon.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Oden-Pole-20160828.jpg

As soon as you cite the great big slimy con site, your reliability drops through to several layers below the bottom of the sewer.

As indicated on the photo it is an official photo from the Greenland Ecosystem Monitoring Arctic 2016 mission so I think it is very reliable. It was originally available on several sites but is now harder to find.Since some of the posters like to talk about history, 14th Aug was the anniversary of Captain Cook crossing the Arctic Circle in 1778 after passing through the Bering Strait. On the 18th he encountered the ice pack at 70º44’N which by his account was 12′ high and stretched from horizon to horizon (somewhat south of Barrow).