quote:Originally posted by PHXPilot:
...whenever I take a shower this "cloud" of sorts froms on my mirror and in the air, and it stays there...

For 24 hours? Whatever you say, kiddo.

PHXPilot

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:30 am

Well I dont know what kind of stupid shower you have....... j/k

Anyway, the reason they go away later is because I open the door and let in air that isnt very suitable for keeping the moisture visable. If the saturated air stayed the same, as it does on days you see contrails lasting a long time, it will last almost indefinatly. But when I start circulating different unstable air into the room, it disapates.

theseeker

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:33 am

But when I start circulating different unstable air into the room, it disapates.

drier air you mean....

PHXPilot

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:36 am

I guess that would have been better wording, huh

I used "unstable" to mean air that is different than the air inside the room. Then it mixes with that air and becomes "unstable" in a sense.

ScaredForTheFuture

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:37 am

So you're saying the shower condensation in the air would stay there, unchanged, for 24 hours if nobody opened the door.

What planet are you from again?

theseeker

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:43 am

as long as the room could maintain such it would...did you not take science in high school ?

emfx13

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:44 am

Yea seeker i would call them chemtrail's.Why, are they "normal" contrail's?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by emfx13 on 01-28-2003]

PHXPilot

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:46 am

Remember the crack under the door? That also lets in drier air. So, in reality, it wouldnt stay, but if you did it in a room with no possible way for foregin air to get into the room it would remain.

But of course, then you would suffocate, so thats probably why they dont put these rooms into production

ScaredForTheFuture

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:47 am

quote:Originally posted by theseeker:
as long as the room could maintain such it would...did you not take science in high school ?

So you're implying that the sky stays exactly the same... from cold midnight until sunny hot midafternoon?

PHXPilot

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:53 am

No of course not, thats why you dont see the same contrail for days on end. But airmasses can maintain the same properties for a pretty good length of time. And when they are as stable as that, then contrails can last a good length of time.

theseeker

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:54 am

I suggest you get yourself a barometer....

why do you suppose that new mexico is drier the louisiana ?

nevermind cold dry air will usually render short lived trails and moist air will render fat spreading trails like the photo I posted.... emfx those are ALL commercial flight contrails...

my new years resolution was not to talk trails anymore...damn...

[Edited 1 times, lastly by theseeker on 01-28-2003]

ScaredForTheFuture

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 12:57 am

So that's why they start making the trails at night (cold) so that they are around during the day (hot). I thought a change in the "shower" makes them disappear.

theseeker

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:01 am

whew !

your playing with me and I have not the time for it....

ScaredForTheFuture

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Wed Jan 29, 2003 1:03 am

quote:Originally posted by theseeker:
whew !

your playing with me and I have not the time for it....

Uhm, it was a legitimate statement/question.

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