Monday, April 14, 2008

New Rumor and Debunking a Rumor

This one has popped up once or twice now:

sat morning 3rd district desk sergeant gets a call from a PO due to work day shift. PO needs 8 hours, desk Sgt asks why? PO says he s sick. Sgt says you sound fine to me. Sgt says you might have to come in. PO says I can't I'm sick. Desk Sgt refers him to watch commander. Someone is sent to his house and he answers door and they smell alcohol from him being hungover. They make him blow and hes stripped. There might be more to story but that's what I got.

BS? Or not BS? We're looking for info.

The following rumor however, isn't getting any traction:

suburban departments have been contacted by J-Fed and been requested to call CPD Internal Affairs when an officer is suspected in any sort of wrong doing

We've reached out to a few people in the surrounding jurisdictions who in turn reached out to a few other people and everyone comes back with the same report - no such contact has been made with their departments at this time. But let's face it - why would anyone put their own careers in jeopardy in light of the way the winds are blowing at the moment? Continue to watch yourselves and your partners.

I would have to say FALSE..... 2nd watch watch commander(s)are a couple of the best in the city(Captain P.G. and Lt. T.M.) and there is noway either would deny anyone time due if requested by a P.O. on short notice. I haven't heard any rumblings from second watch personel in 003 regarding an incident like this.

Re:sat morning 3rd district desk sergeant gets a call from a PO due to work day shift. PO needs 8 hours, desk Sgt asks why? PO says he s sick. Sgt says you sound fine to me. Sgt says you might have to come in. PO says I can't I'm sick. Desk Sgt refers him to watch commander. Someone is sent to his house and he answers door and they smell alcohol from him being hungover. They make him blow and hes stripped. There might be more to story but that's what I got.

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Sorry, but I drank way too much Nyquil for this flu. Now go away. If you want me to blow, call an ambulance, I am sick and not leaving my home unless directed by a physican. Unless you Sgt want to sign this waiver saying that if I become more ill or die do to your request, you and your family are personally financially responsible for my losses.

sat morning 3rd district desk sergeant gets a call from a PO due to work day shift. PO needs 8 hours, desk Sgt asks why? PO says he s sick. Sgt says you sound fine to me. Sgt says you might have to come in. PO says I can't I'm sick. Desk Sgt refers him to watch commander. Someone is sent to his house and he answers door and they smell alcohol from him being hungover. They make him blow and hes stripped. There might be more to story but that's what I got.

Said it before here; demand a "lapse of judgement" clause in our next contract.If it s good enough for the stuttering prick, his son and nephews, it should be good enough for US!Even the FBI uses it: Whitey Bolger, Ruby Ridge,etc........

It is just a reminder to do "only what is required" at work. Don't do anything proactive, let crime go thru the roof. Make paper on everything you can and classify it as it should be. If a scene is an aggravated battery make it so, not a simple battery.. If you hit someone the asa's would charge you with an aggravated battery, not a simple a battery. Speaking of asa's, I recently saw one getting out of his car at an area. So, I ran the plate and quess what. Chicaago resident and no city sitcker. By the time I finished there were 3 tickets prominently displayed on the front windshield. Its the new attitude the city, county and state created so lets stick to it. No breaks for anyone.

To the previous comment about "Tommy from the Airport" being a snitch for Sneed.

That would be Cmdr Tom Argenbriht. Spent about 10 years in 002 tact and homocide detective in Area 1. made sergent and went right to work for Supt. Hillard - personal sergent. Then worked for Grau - personal lt.

I can beleive he's s snitch, likes to start shit. I know he reads SCC every day and likes to post comments that start shit....

Doesnt surprise me..

Word is that J-Fed liked Grau but Daley did not. That's why Grau got dumped. J-fed promised Grau that he would take care of his cabin boy Tommy and make him boss.

Sad news, but true. Look for 4 officers and 1 Sgt from the 017 District tact to be stripped within the next two weeks. This stems from a investigation that has taken well over a year and will be another negative for the media to hammer us with. The facts of the incident have been substantiated and the officers will be fighting for their jobs and freedom.

Why do most officers use the medical like a badge of honor? If you are sick stay home and get better...thats why it is there. Even if you are tired and a little wore out stay home and get better....the day you come to work feeling like hell something COULD happen. Just my 2 cents.

Hey asshole, do you even know how many breaks Chicago coppers give out in this town? Or bend backwards for victims, only to be screwed by them being lazy or scared to go to court. Have you noticed how where getting fired and stripped for nothing over accusations for things you won't lose your job over. Coppers get sued for based on lies, so fuck off. So, long story short stop watching tv becasue that thin blue line, ship has sailed.

FYI--daley/j-fed are strongly pushing for mandatory steriod testing and alchol(blood and/or breath) testing for po's involved in any off duty beef, any on/off duty shooting, and on duty car accidents. they are trying to wipe their hands clean of city/police dept liability for civil liability.

I really don't think any watch commander or anyone else can just decide to send someone over to your house to check on you.....a medical check yes. Anything else short of that and an arrest warrant, its invitation only

Well in my 17 years on this job I have worked for many bosses. There have been a few that were by the book and not flexible all. These were the ones that you simply avoid at all costs. I remember years ago when my Mother was terminally ill and under Hospice care, the Doctor told our family that death was coming very soon. I remember calling work and the Watch Commander asked me what was going on. After explaining my situation, the jagoff sighs and says well I guess you not coming in today. The prick never offered me sickness in family and never asked how we were doing. At the time it did not bother me until I had to call back the next day and inform them that she died. The Desk Sergeant took the call and made all the notifications for me while also showing compassion. The Watch Commander never called back and never offered any sympathy. The Commander and everyone else paid their respects and it helped me tolerate this prick when I saw him at the next roll call. There are a few people like this on the job and they could care less about you. My advice to all is to be the better person and do absolutely nothing for people like this.

hit the medical-- if its true, once again you guys have to start learning when to not open the door and not answer the phone.IF YOU ARE THE MEDICAL, DON'T YOU HAVE TO ANSWER THE DOOR (TO SIGN) THE MEDICAL CHECK SLIP?? ISN'T THAT REQUIRED......?

that is a true story, i handled it on 2241 beat. complete bullshit by 003 district w/c. p.p.o. was at billy grant benefit at bourbon street and called to take time and was so drunk he forgot he already had time. desk crew thought he sounded to drunk and called 22 and w/c who sent car out. totally fucked this kid.

I would have to say FALSE..... 2nd watch watch commander(s)are a couple of the best in the city(Captain P.G. and Lt. T.M.) and there is noway either would deny anyone time due if requested by a P.O. on short notice. I haven't heard any rumblings from second watch personel in 003 regarding an incident like this.

4/14/2008 12:12:00 AM

-------------------------------never heard anyone say that about P.G. but I have to agree with you on this.

i will be at ST JUDES I would like one or all the gold star families to have a sign that reads where are you mayor my blank gave his life to your city on your watch.thanks for one hour of your time on a sunday morning.

This weekend- I enjoyed a pie at my favorate Pizza place on Rush street. My out of town cousins like a deep dish and the entertainment of city creatures passing by the window. Our all time greatest waitress [zoftig Ceri] was complaining about a real dead beat tipper that has started frequenting the place. Seems our new boss [J-Fed] is a real cheap bastard and seems to reward the working stiffs who serve his food with the same low regard in which he apparently holds the people who serve and protect the city. You might want to think twice about fucking with people who are preparing and serving your food. Unlike the POs that you screw with at will, the food folks won't bend over and take it, unless they take a squat in the food while bending over. You may want to find a new spot, I think a couple of employees here are eagerly waiting for you and the wifey to stop in.

true or not???? FUCK this city & the dept! I used to be one of those guys that occasionally needed a "day off drunk"... and even when i was sick, would take time instead of hittin the medical. but now? FUCK them! i stub my freakin toe, im hitting the medical!!!! use it now before they take it away from us. And yes ive always been a worker. not like the pukes that have always abused the medical. but like i said, screw this city any way possible. i never thought when i came on the job 16years ago, i would sound like this...but they give us no choice! next we need to all stick together once and for all and fight back!!! because once they take something away, were never gettin it back! And please if ur pissed up drunk AT YOUR OWN HOME and some cock shows up at your door,,,, DONT OPEN IT!!! hey asshole... get a fuckin warrant! i wanna get drunk in my home? its my fucking right to!!! I was always told never trust a man that wont drink with you! well i hope J-TOOL chokes on his fuckin protein shake! stay safe & fight back!

I also know PG and TM. That would never happen. Period. No sergeant can order you to come in if you declare you are going medical. In this scenario, the p/o is the idiot for requesting time instead of hitting the medical. You get up to 3 days without going to a doctor. Use it to your advantage if you are ever in this "scenario"

is it true fat boy and his dad aka kiss ass quit the bagpipe band. i heard he did and is all stressed out and that he weighs 300lbs now. he always looked like a keg of beer. father like son. two of the biggest kiss asses in the city, two of the fattest coppers in the city. and he is r merit selection for sgt. what a joke.

here's a comment from another blog on here. there must be something to the rumors. too many P/O's being ordered to blow lately. when in the f*%k is this shit lodge ever going to actually start fighting for us instead of some meger increase in our uniform allowance. (which i also hear is going to a quartermaster type allowance.)and if j-fed wants to constantly compare us to the ISP. why don't you start paying us like em, give us their 26 and 80% pension with a 3% COMPOUNDED interest, take home cars etc... hey lodge 7, YOU LISTENING!?

[The comment about J-Fed ordering P/O's to admin. blow is correct. and the rumor that he notified surrounding suburban depts. must also be true. Those "meter maids" in Oak Lawn tried to jam one of our guys. Reported him to his supervisors on a off duty intoxication allegation. I know this copper, he's a straight up guy. He did more police work in his first five years than any of them would do in their whole career!]

Anonymous said... Do anything you want guys, just don't be a snitch. Right, SCC?

4/14/2008 12:01:00 AM

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Dear Troll,

Calling in for time due because you realize that you're not at 100% to protect the citizens, and being intoxicated in your own home is against the law? He worked to earn the time to burn, and made a sound judgement that he wasnt fit for duty that day, he should be given the time and commended for making a responsible decision.That is, if there is any truth to this anyway.I dont see how this has anything to do with snitching. You can take your holier-than-thou attitude and stick it where the sun dont shine.

JFed's obsession with alcohol consumption has gotten out of control. prohibition ended decades ago but apparently not for the CPD. I'VE GOT TO WONDER WHAT THE SOURCE OF JFED'S ANTI-ALCOHOL MANIA IS. IS HE A MORMON OR MUSLIM OR SOMETHING?

Totally unfounded. If it happened at all it didn't happen in the third district. Spoke with the desk sgt who works 2nd watch and he flat out denied this event ever taking place. Considering the fact that no one else in three has even heard of this happening I'd have to believe him.

Last week, microchips made the news again in a big way when the Daily Mail reported that the London Metropolitan Police will be implanting chips in all police officers so administrators can monitor their movements. It's being touted as an officer safety measure, but it's not making all officers feel safer. Officers are already tracked by GPS devices in their radio headsets, but under-the-skin implants will take that to a whole new level. Some have raised concerns that the terrorists and other bad guys will be able to hack into the devices despite encryption, and know exactly where the cops are at any given moment. http://www.wxpnews.com/6N6UJM/080415-Police-Chips

I was wondering if can you find out if the rumor that J-Fed is full of shit is true?

I remember him promising....

More personnel on the streets and less behind desks and more cars and computers and equipment?Still can't find any parking at HQ. Looks like they took more sworn off the streets to fill in the fifty they detailed out for the new School Unit.

How about fixing the promotional process? Well we know how he picks em.

Where's that 12 hour day? Still waiting.

How about the SUVs? Price of gas will kill this one.

Hey the new gun? No money for a first issue.

I will say this for him...he did kept all those political promises he made to da mayor, alderman and those reverends.

It's real simple, folks...When ordered to do an administrative blow (in instances like this), simply do what the smarter DUI arrestees do; INSUFFICIENT BREATH. Blow like you've smoked 50 years worth of non-filtered Camels. Blow like you've "got the asthma". Blow like you're my emphasemic grandma aiming for the candles on her 75th birthday cake. When the machine doesn't register and the gold star tells you to try again/harder, repeat the process. Then apologize for not being able to produce the evidence that the department is looking to hang you with. I'd love to see the look on their faces when they realize that they probably don't have a "Plan B" at their immediate disposal. Fuck this department; be smarter than the average bear, clam-up and lawyer-up and never tilt your hand.

Speaking of rumors today.When I took ethics training today. I noticed that it is a city ordinance violation for an employee (supervisor or exempt) to exert improper influence on the behalf of relatives. We all know this goes on routinely just look who occupies the specialized units.

Well perhaps the Superintendent and Inspector General reading this would like to know which members of J-Fed's command staff are abusing their authority and taking care of their family members in violation of the ordinance. Perhaps these trusted exempts should do a little time and lose their pensions?

Is it true they are putting a breathalizer machine in Teasers to jam up the loser cops who hangout there????

Yes, they are going to put it right next to all the Latin Kings that sell rock out of that f'n cesspool bar. First it was the whops with their coke, now it Kings with the crack. I'm surprised that place hasn't lit up. I'll stick with Lasko's and the pols.

hit the medical-- if its true, once again you guys have to start learning when to not open the door and not answer the phone.IF YOU ARE THE MEDICAL, DON'T YOU HAVE TO ANSWER THE DOOR (TO SIGN) THE MEDICAL CHECK SLIP?? ISN'T THAT REQUIRED......?

I was sleeping.... called on the phone... they should leave a message. Sorry boss, I was out like a light, called you as soon as I woke up and heard the message.

It's real simple, folks...When ordered to do an administrative blow (in instances like this), simply do what the smarter DUI arrestees do; INSUFFICIENT BREATH. Blow like you've smoked 50 years worth of non-filtered Camels. Blow like you've "got the asthma". Blow like you're my emphasemic grandma aiming for the candles on her 75th birthday cake. When the machine doesn't register and the gold star tells you to try again/harder, repeat the process. Then apologize for not being able to produce the evidence that the department is looking to hang you with. I'd love to see the look on their faces when they realize that they probably don't have a "Plan B" at their immediate disposal. Fuck this department; be smarter than the average bear, clam-up and lawyer-up and never tilt your hand.

Even if you hit the medical, you are required to "open the door" for an official visit. If you're listed as "unable to contact" on a med. check, you're subject to a CR.These days, with all the heat on Med. abuse, you really don't want that one out there.

I will play devil's advocate here.If the PPO called up needing time off and sounded under the influence, maybe the boss had a car go over to the kid's place just to check on him. Suicide is a known problem in this profession.If that was the motivation, hat's off to the boss. And we all know that it's not a good idea to call the boss if you're fucked up. You can always have a family member call and request the emer. TD for you. THINK.

that is a true story, i handled it on 2241 beat. complete bullshit by 003 district w/c. p.p.o. was at billy grant benefit at bourbon street and called to take time and was so drunk he forgot he already had time. desk crew thought he sounded to drunk and called 22 and w/c who sent car out. totally fucked this kid.

From a 003rd district p.o, the above is true, didn't happen on 2nd watch though, and it wasn't a ppo.

It's real simple, folks...When ordered to do an administrative blow (in instances like this), simply do what the smarter DUI arrestees do; INSUFFICIENT BREATH. Blow like you've smoked 50 years worth of non-filtered Camels. Blow like you've "got the asthma". Blow like you're my emphasemic grandma aiming for the candles on her 75th birthday cake. When the machine doesn't register and the gold star tells you to try again/harder, repeat the process. Then apologize for not being able to produce the evidence that the department is looking to hang you with. I'd love to see the look on their faces when they realize that they probably don't have a "Plan B" at their immediate disposal. Fuck this department; be smarter than the average bear, clam-up and lawyer-up and never tilt your hand.

For years Daley has wanted to disarm the police in Chicago. This off duty drinking thing is designed to screw over cops in the hope that our union will grow a set and say wait a minute, if we are to be held to this conduct standard off duty we must be compensated...then the Daley trap will spring, he'll say OK, off duty you are your own person, BUT, you leave the badge, ID and gun at the station and go home a civilian. Oh, by the way, you can only register that one "on-Duty" gun free, for all others you pay. At this point our union should rebutt that this then crushes the justification for residency, but alas, Daley knows full well who runs our union, he'll have it easy.

They can't write it up as a refusal. The test subject's name (yours) as well as the machine operator's appears on the blow-receipt, as well as "insufficient breath" (or something to that effect), or your BAC if you "successfully" blow. So...DON'T successfully blow - EVER!!! The only evidence they'll have at that point is the receipt showing that you cooperated with their direct order; you just didn't give them the rope to hang yourself with. If they still persisted and charged you with refusing to blow, you could easily have your lawyer subpeona the results, as they are kept in a database. Then it's new summer home time when you get that settlement for malicious prosecution!!!

ANONYMOUS SAID: IS IT TRUE THAT J-FED'S TWO FED SIDE KICKS WERE BOTH GIVEN OUR STARS AND SWORN IN AS CHICAGO POLICE OFFICERS WHEN J-FED BROUGHT THEM ON BOARD AND THEY WERE TOLD THAT THE RESIDENCY LAW WOULD BE WAIVED FOR 6 MONTHS??? HOW CAN THEY GET AWAY WITH LIVING OUTSIDE THE CITY AND CARRING OUR STARS?? FOP WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT THIS???

I think it's very simple... like someone said, just don't look the other way anymore. Make every B.S. "crime" legit. Every "he jumped on me" that you would 19p and tell her you're going to tour the area for the off. with negative results-make it a report.Start giving paper for every minor incident that you would usually blow off, write NO tickets,do NO traffic stops, etc. That's what I've begun doing and I used to HATE giving shitbirds paper, but with the goal of making J-Fed look bad it's actually kinda fun to give a 3 minute report for stuff I used to take 10 minutes to try to B.S. them out of one. Think about... if we all got on board with this strategy (that's a big "all" ) we could have this guy in a negative spotlight in no-time. Cline had to resign because of a few media stories of the infamous bar incidents. Imagine what will happen if we all follow this strategy and in a year the #'s show a 40,50,60..% increase in crime in Chicago! imagine the field day the media will have with that story, and someone will have to answer for it. How will Daley justify a $300K+ Supt. with higher crime stats.? We have an unstoppable amount of power at our hands if we would only unite under one goal. This guy is an outsider, he was never a Chicago cop, who is he to come to our city and hunt us like the criminals that we hunt, at our homes, in our yards because of a few drinks? Someone once said "You have to be smarter than what you are working on" and folks, J-Fed and his new tactics/witch-hunts/forced blows/termination first-ask questions later/cameras in cars/etc., are all the things we should be working on. We have the power to make the crime statistics shoot through the roof-overnight, all we have to do is report it! J-Fed and/or Daley will undoubtedly have to answer for it. You guys with 20+ years have the K.M.A. club, well I for one am a new and proud member of the D.D.S. club (DON'T DO SHIT!) Like a boycott of an undesirable product, lets partake in a boycott of an undesirable boss by showing the people of Chicago how much crime REALLY goes on in this shithole-by generating paper for everything. My dad told me that the rank and file are like the earth and bosses are like the clouds...the clouds are always changing either stormy clouds, or nice fluffy white clouds, but they are never permanent...whereas the earth is always there, to weather any storm. Remember, the way to get rid of this guy is DON'T DO SHIT!Be safe.

If it is true that J-Fed and his cronies were sworn in as CPD officers, where is our useless FOP AGAIN? These a-holes have NO Illinois certification. The city doesn't have lateral hiring on the police dept.. And while i'm at it, what about all the civilian deputies wearing the star? I was a state certified suburban copper years ago and had to redo the academy again to join CPD. So if these guys have no state certification and CPD has no lateral hiring, doesn't that mean these guys are impersonating the police? If they did it for them, doesn't that open the door for lateral hiring of P/O's from other agencies? HELLO! FOP?

They can't write it up as a refusal. The test subject's name (yours) as well as the machine operator's appears on the blow-receipt, as well as "insufficient breath" (or something to that effect), *************Don't you know, "insufficient breath" equals a refusal??