idesigner1 wrote:He like to discuss Hinduism, Judaism etc. which is his favorite topic in any discussion. According to him "Jews and Hindus did many bad things in the past therefore this act of cruelty is ok.

Well crazy canuck or idesigner1,you said about coconut breaking in Hindu temples as can be seen from the above video was once really the breaking open of human head skull at a time when human sacrifice was still in vogue amongst Hindus.You said that it along with animal sacrifice was done away with and was replaced by symbolic sacrifices/offerings of coconuts,fruits etc mainly due to the influence of philosophies of Buddhism and Jainism.Now having known that kopra/kopda in Hindi means coconut and kopdi means head skull,I was convinced to a certain extent.But then as can be seen at the end of the video shown below,a person trying to save a virgin from being sacrificed during a black magic ritual warns the goons of the evil doer that if they dare to lay their hands on that virgin,their water melons will be sent rolling(puchchalu lechipotaiin coastal accented Telugu) read their heads will be sent rolling with the machete.Now water melon sacrifice is unheard of Hindu society though pumpkin sacrifice is very well known.

So may be indeed it is true that objects that are relatively similar to the head later took place of the actual head as non-violence as a virtue was exalted.

However when you say that my tu quo que logic is perverse,I would also like to point out that in the old forum when Yohan said that Urdu is a bastard language whose origin is due to sexual union of male Turkish armed forces encamped during their campains(Urdu in Turkish means camp) and those Hindu women that refused to commit Jauhar and Sati/Suttee and instead bedded with them,you retorted that every language is a bastard language.Is it not the same old perverse tu quo que logic at work in your mind?

Yohan also said indirectly that Hindi is also a bastard language when he said that majority of sub-continental inhabitants of North India are linguistically Aryanised even though racially they are Dravidian just the way Mexico was Latinised.

My maths teacher of 8th or 9th standard named Shastri sir,a drunkard Brahmin said that Urdu is a beautiful language(even though it is a bastard language according to Yohan).However he seemed not to notice that his mother tongue Telugu is also called Italian of the East as it is said to be extremely beautiful just like Italian in Europe.Not to say that I have listened to Hindustani or Urdu songs right from my childhood and they are extremely melodious(even though I do not understand some of the Arabic,Turkish and Persian words). Also I have read in the old forum that Slavic women amd those of mixed race breeding are beautiful(Halle Berry and Jennifer Lopez are quoted as the examples) and in this very forum people wanted an end to muslim African immigration but have expressed the desire to continue Polish immigration unabated.In one of the Hindu texts ,the Andhras or the Telugu people(who are the outcastes of racist Aryans and hence a mixed breed) are also said to be extremely beautiful.Nowadays though,I do not see that many beautiful Andhraites though.Possibly because centuries of muslim invasions devastated the upper castes who are more beautiful or possibly because all those that are beautiful are carried away to muslim harems.As a result the native dark skinned ones might have regained demographically.Or as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder.So mixed breed Andhras might have appeared to be more beautiful than totally dark natives and as result might have appeared beautiful.If I am to hate Urdu,I even have to hate Telugu then.

Also when yam insulted Yohan as a white dick suck pastor,Yohan retorted saying that Hindus of all castes have been sucking up to the dicks of Aryans for more than 3600 years.Now this is also a perverse tu quo que logic which you have not condemned.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Now Telugu could also be a bastard language if racist Aryans following the example of Indra and his white friends made wars on the native tribes for the sake of stealing land and bastardised and Aryanised them.Afterall the main characteristics of the demons are that they consume or eat human flesh,are lustful and cruel.Now all these characteristics fit the natives as they were either not in regions perennially watered by rivers or are those to whom agriculture is not known.Hence the resort to cannibalism.An alternative when population increases dramatically is to go for colonisation.Just like Germanic tribes colonised the Celts,just like Romans colonised the Celts,just like Germanic tribes moved forward in great numbers when Rome was depopulated due to practice of birth control,just like the Americas were colonised by people of Europe when faced with a population explosion.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Urdu as a language was born in North India,but it was in the Deccan and more particularly in Hyderabad where is received unforseen royal patronage,developed into a beautiful language and then went back to the North to mesmorize the muslims and continue as the wonderful language of Bollywood.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

the migration of nations; especially : the movement into southern and western Europe of the Teutonic peoples, Huns, and Slavs from the 2d century a.d. to about the 11th century reaching the peak in the 5th and 6th centuries and closing with the settling of Norsemen in England and France

Now when someone in the old forum said that it is Aryan migration that happened in India and not an Aryan invasion,Yohan retorted saying which people in their own right would give up the land owned by them.Now going by the same logic,völkerwanderung must also have been an invasion.First came across this word in the Oxford English dictionary in my childhood.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Present day Telugu people can also sympathise with their Aryan ancestors who kicked them out of the Aryan heartland.Reason is simple.People in this forum said that arranged marriages and monogamy are basically designed and intended to conserve if not enhance economic prospects and situations and thus avoid any possible conflicts.So basically Aryans also did what present day parents do to those who marry out of love or romantic feelings without their consent.Deny them their share of wealth if possible.(Is that not why the children of God are favoured over those of Satan in Christianity?)Now since many Telugu people as of today marry out of economic considerations,they can basically empathise with the Aryans.

Since love marriages happen basically due to physical attraction and not due to economic incentives,might be Andhras who were the progeny of mixed marriages,naturally looked beautiful as had been mentioned in the Hindu sacred texts before they got decimated in unforseen Islamic invasions (due to Islamic monopoly over fine breed war horses and superior Turkish bow just like Aryan monopoly of iron)handing over the land back to those with a higher degree of native blood.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Hindus and Jews did many bad things in the past.Therefore this act of cruelty is o.k,this is my twisted logic.Turks were colonising muslims in the past,so we too will let others colonise Palestine right now.Now cc,who is resorting to twisted logic?

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Turks were colonising muslims in the past,so we too will let others colonise Palestine right now.

We do? And what is "Palestine", some sort of "country"? And who is suggesting that Israel's right to exist depends on Turkey in any way?

Muslims have always assumed they have the right to take any land they can by conquest and impose their "rule" over it, exploiting the original inhabitants. So, what right do they have to complain if others fight back? The land of Israel belongs to the Jews who were unjustly and forcibly expelled from it. The "Palestinians" are almost all immigrants who arrived AFTER the Jews began to turn a backwater and virtually empty wasteland into the thriving place Israel is today, by doing something Muslims will avoid at all costs: hard work. They came to take the fruits of their labour and to dispossess them all over again. This time they may scream and shout, shoot their rockets, do their worst, they will fail.

Turks were colonising muslims in the past,so we too will let others colonise Palestine right now.

We do? And what is "Palestine", some sort of "country"? And who is suggesting that Israel's right to exist depends on Turkey in any way?

Muslims have always assumed they have the right to take any land they can by conquest and impose their "rule" over it, exploiting the original inhabitants. So, what right do they have to complain if others fight back? The land of Israel belongs to the Jews who were unjustly and forcibly expelled from it. The "Palestinians" are almost all immigrants who arrived AFTER the Jews began to turn a backwater and virtually empty wasteland into the thriving place Israel is today, by doing something Muslims will avoid at all costs: hard work. They came to take the fruits of their labour and to dispossess them all over again. This time they may scream and shout, shoot their rockets, do their worst, they will fail.

Without Israel, oil would be $1,000 a barrel. Without Israel, the US would have to fund an extra $200 billion yearly defense budget to defend southern NATO countries from a Muslim caliphate's northward tsunami."

'We' refers to all those that are stealing cheap oil and have installed Israel in that region explicitly for that purpose.Only the elite got expelled by the Romans ,ordinary folks simply converted to the norms of their new elite and became the new workhorses as someone in this forum put it.And you call usury hardwork while backbending farm work in the scorching sun is called laziness.Jews expelled Palestinians from the their present land to make room for new immigrants.That is a fact which no matter of whitewashing will erase.Go figure out.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Well, if the presence of Israel has a a moderating effect on the exploitation of the West by the the Arabs, that is a good thing. But that is not what Israel is for. Israel is the natural home of the Jews. And no "Palestinians" were expelled from "their" land. Almost all arrived AFTER the formation of Israel from other countries.

And were are all the Jews expelled from North-Africa? Well, they are not in perpetual refuge camps, they are living and working in Israel, for the most part.

The whole "Palestinian crisis" is an invention by the EGYPTIAN Yassa Arafat and his cronies, a cheap ploy to destroy Israel after the attempt using force had failed.

The Arabs in the region simply want all the Jews dead and gone. That is their peace plan. So excuse me if I don't sympathise.

Do the Greeks live in refugee camps since their land was taken by the Muslim Turks? Do they shoot rockets at Turkey, at random intervals? Do they want to see a blood bath? No, because they have invented being civilised.

Do the Greeks live in refugee camps since their land was taken by the Muslim Turks? Do they shoot rockets at Turkey, at random intervals? Do they want to see a blood bath? No, because they have invented being civilised.

But both Greece and Turkey do buy a lot of weapons from the U.S.A,don't they?What for?Some muslim guy said that the day Europe goes down economically,you will see the true face of native Europeans.So let us wait and watch until as to how long they continue with this civilised behaviour of theirs.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

And no "Palestinians" were expelled from "their" land. Almost all arrived AFTER the formation of Israel from other countries.

One of the two envisaged States proclaimed its independence as Israel and in the 1948 war involving neighbouring Arab States expanded to 77 percent of the territory of mandate Palestine, including the larger part of Jerusalem. Over half of the Palestinian Arab population fled or were expelled. Jordan and Egypt controlled the rest of the territory assigned by resolution 181 to the Arab State. In the 1967 war, Israel occupied these territories (Gaza Strip and the West Bank) including East Jerusalem, which was subsequently annexed by Israel. The war brought about a second exodus of Palestinians, estimated at half a million.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

UN Resolution 181 allotted Jews, who were less than one-third of the population and owned only 8 percent of the land, 56 percent of the territory of Palestine. Palestinians saw the partition plan as a grave injustice, especially since most Jews in Palestine were recent arrivals. Fighting broke out between Jewish forces and local Palestinian militias.

In May 1948, the British evacuated Palestine, and Israel declared independence. Several adjacent Arab countries declared war against the new state. During the war, Israeli forces destroyed over 500 Palestinian villages and captured 78 percent of historic Palestine.

See Israel seems to occupy more than what is allocated to it.Of course if the Sephardic Jews were proportionally accomodated after their expulsion from their ancestral homes from elsewhere of Arab lands,it would be somewhat justified.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

If Muslims do not want to live in peace in a democracy with Jewish neighbours, and therefore they leave, you can hardly call that an "expulsion". And when people start a war and loose, there are consequences. In fact, the country which lost most territory in recent times are the Germans. So why are they not whining and shooting rockets at Russia? Where are their refugee camps? Does every German also get money from the UN so they do not need to go to work? If the Germans have learnt to adapt, why cannot do the Arabs the same? The Palestinian Arab have a very simple choice: be part of the only decent country in the region, as ordinary citizens with the same rights as all the others, or live in one of the hell-holes near by.

And before Muslims even begin whining about "their land", they need to return ALL the land they have taken by force, start with Turkey, for example.

Also, the sad truth is that the whole Israel "land dispute" is a red herring. Muslims hate Jews, and want all of them dead. They are taught this in their religion. Even if all of Israel were to be given to the Arabs, this would not change. That is why "land for peace" is a nonsense.

If you ask me, they should make ALL of the middle East part of Israel. Then people learn proper values and get better standard of living. I am for a "ONE STATE" solution. Sadly the Israelis know better than to try to rule over a bunch of fanatics. The Arabs have enough land, and the really do no need that tiny slither of land called Israel.

ISLAM_rules wrote:Just as a man can revert to Islam, but not leave it again, land once part of dhar-ul-Islam belongs to us forever. The Jews need to be destroyed. They are a curse to mankind. They have no rights as humans, as they are not really human.

How about that possiblity closer to reality:

Just as member of Mafia can revert to the crime-family, but not leave it again, land once part of dhar-ul-kharah belongs to my pig forever. The Islamist need to be destroyed. They are a curse to mankind. They have no rights as humans, as they are not really human.Review their history of lack of contribution to mankind for past 500 years. Imagine for a moment w/o the oil, to see how those Muslim w/o oil have been living.

In addition to manfreds's aptly reply. Let me clarify few more points in regards to "Palestinians" bellicose about "their land" and identity.

UN Resolution 181: (29 November 1947) Excerpt

The mandatory Power shall use its best endeavours to ensure that an area situated in the territory of the Jewish State, including a seaport and hinterland adequate to provide facilities for a substantial immigration, shall be evacuated at the earliest possible date and in any event not later than 1 February 1948.Independent Arab and Jewish States and the Special International Regime for the City of Jerusalem, set forth in Part III of this Plan, shall come into existence in Palestine two months after the evacuation of the armed forces of the mandatory Power has been completed but in any case not later than 1 October 1948. The boundaries of the Arab State, the Jewish State, and the City of Jerusalem shall be as described in Parts II and III below.

manfred is absolutely right.!!!!Note that, resolution calls for "Jewish" & "Arab". The name "Palestinian does not appear anywhere in that document - nor anywhere else. As result Arabs refused to accept the resolution, and wanted it all to continue to subjugate Jews. They went to war - lost that war and now the whine and cry, want their toy back.

"Palestinians expelled from the land". It is indeed a fact that few hundred thousand of them fled. What many Palestinian systematizer fail to admit is that, the true factor behind what you call "expulsion" was this gun.Its name was "Davidka" (Little david. named after the guy who invented it). Its sole purpose was to create noise similar to 44" howitzer gun. At night(I swear I am not making it up) Israeli solders would place few of them next a targeted village and fire off blank shot. Hearing the loud noises, Arab commanders thought an army of 100,000 solders are fighting them, and ordered to flee.. So, why would anyone blame the Israelis for being clever. After all, it was Mohammad himself whom 1400 years ago coined the phrase "war in deception". The truth is, Pals lost to their own stupidity overinflated & hollow ego, and believed their own corrupt and cowered leaders. Don't blame the Israelis - blame the Pals.

ISLAM_rules wrote:Just as a man can revert to Islam, but not leave it again, land once part of dhar-ul-Islam belongs to us forever. The Jews need to be destroyed. They are a curse to mankind. They have no rights as humans, as they are not really human.

Strange. Often I have the same thought about Islam and some groups of Muslims like Isis, Boko Haram, Hamas, Taliban, Al Qaida and more vermin. Destroy Islam and all the soldiers of mohammed aka allah . They are not human,and they are a curse to mankind so they have no right to live.