Considering the reprehensible things that OP has admitted to in the past (like constantly pulling a melee dps off a lfr boss over and over again with a pull player to me mechanic for shits and giggles) all I can do is ROFLOL at the idea that they could come here and moan about the morale failings of people kicking him from groups for his/her morale failings.

Why are you bringing up things that are irrelevant to the thread? Please stay on topic or dont post at all. Thx.

OT: Am I to assume that you who claim "oh I would never initiate the vote kick, but i wouldnt mind pressing yes if it came up" that you have never initiated a vote kick for such an action?

Yes I have to agree with Hidelstein on all counts, because guess what, he is absolutely right. It is not about the "principle" for these LFR whiners. If the item were worth 0g, no one would give a rats ass.

In the LFRs I've been in so far people have not been needing on greens, but they have been needing on lock boxes. As soon as I see someone do that I'm needing too. I can understand if someone wants to need on a green for transmogrification purposes (or at least u can use it as an excuse). With a lock box you just know it's for the gold.

There were days, that no one needed on greens nor on lockboxes. These days has long gone to ashes. Today is everyone on his own, greeding and needing what he can get. This isn't the community I started with in 2006...

I refuse to knowingly raid with a douchebag dumbfuck. It's not about gold or fair chances at loot, etc. I just really hate stupid people. I refuse to associate with them in real life, and do what I can to minimize it in WoW.

OT: Am I to assume that you who claim "oh I would never initiate the vote kick, but i wouldnt mind pressing yes if it came up" that you have never initiated a vote kick for such an action?

I haven't in LFR. I have initiated to kick entitled tanks from 5-mans though. But only when they kept on after being called out.

Originally Posted by Jaylock

Yes I have to agree with Hidelstein on all counts, because guess what, he is absolutely right. It is not about the "principle" for these LFR whiners. If the item were worth 0g, no one would give a rats ass.

By all means, let us know when a valueless item drops. The only reason to roll need on greens is because you are greedy. Because you feel that 10g for you is more important than cooperating with the rest of the group.

Why are you bringing up things that are irrelevant to the thread? Please stay on topic or dont post at all. Thx.

OT: Am I to assume that you who claim "oh I would never initiate the vote kick, but i wouldnt mind pressing yes if it came up" that you have never initiated a vote kick for such an action?

Yes I have to agree with Hidelstein on all counts, because guess what, he is absolutely right. It is not about the "principle" for these LFR whiners. If the item were worth 0g, no one would give a rats ass.

Lets see, you got kicked from a group for what was considered reprehensible behavior by the group and come here complaining that what they did was awful towards you and then call it off topic if someone brings up an example of your 'repeated pattern of reprehensible behavior'. Kettle, meet Pot.

If the person has a mindset of "fuck the other 24 people I deserve this item" than why should I treat them any better? You want to be a dick? Well then enjoy your half an hour queue looking for your next LFR. Maybe you can learn how not to be a dick face.

If the person has a mindset of "fuck the other 24 people I deserve this item" than why should I treat them any better? You want to be a dick? Well then enjoy your half an hour queue looking for your next LFR. Maybe you can learn how not to be a dick face.

Also, this. ^^^ I commute to and from work daily and you can always tell who the people who would roll need on greens are by the way they drive. Everything is all about them. It's called being a sociopath. Same people gank for the same reason.

I usually laugh when ppl start a vote kick over this type of thing. I do understand old school players' views on it being the new version of ninja looting though and get why they'd want them gone. I still remember getting Cloak of Flames ninja'd from me back when EQ was all we had. Broke a mouse and a keyboard that night lol.

Why are you bringing up things that are irrelevant to the thread? Please stay on topic or dont post at all. Thx.

OT: Am I to assume that you who claim "oh I would never initiate the vote kick, but i wouldnt mind pressing yes if it came up" that you have never initiated a vote kick for such an action?

Yes I have to agree with Hidelstein on all counts, because guess what, he is absolutely right. It is not about the "principle" for these LFR whiners. If the item were worth 0g, no one would give a rats ass.

A single person cannot initiate a vote kick in LFR, I believe it takes five votes before it prompts the raid.
Hi, I previously stated that those greens are essentially worth 0g to me and I care. Last I checked, that invalidates your "no one" and strengthens the "principle".

Also, your elitist attitude is sickening. Calling anyone who disagrees with your views either pathetic or whiners, it's no surprise you have issues grasping that it could possible be an issue with principle rather than greens. Of course, you'll never directly call people pathetic or whiners, just like you never create troll threads.

Oh, and by the way, everyone with a viable opinion can be "right". It's not like we're debating whether the sun is a sphere or not. Your thread name is "Needing on Greens = Boot from LFR?" to get a discussion going about it. When someone agrees with you, you claim he's absolutely right like it's fact. If you go into a discussion without caring about said discussion (as others in this, and other threads accused you of), then why create the discussion in the first place other than to vent or flaunt your elitist attitude around us measly pathetic whiners?

No matter how much you want people to agree with you, humans have this thing called free will. We can think for ourselves. You know what else humans can do? Agree to disagree. Let's see how human you are, shall we?

i struggle to care about the results of a green roll in lfr...i haven't even noticed another persons roll on a green. on the list of poor behaviours in lfr this ranks pretty damn low. certainly less annoying than poor healing/tanking/dps or general rudeness, and definitely less of a problem than that one person who has to let everyone know of all the other people who deserve kicking from the raid. normally so busy deciding who should be kicked to do anything constructive themselves.

If someone needed on every single green in a raid, i'd assume they didn't know about wow etiquette, or if it was a single roll i'd think it would be a misclick..can't say its never happened to me, in the middle of combat, just to get rid of the roll window.

in short; if this minor infraction on mmo social rules bothers enough to go out of your way to kick someone from a raid, you have some major social issues, and your life must be rife with annoyance.