Yes, the "conquistador" who is the son of a maid and a bartender. He is really priviledged!

You don't need to get your panties in a wad over this, Sailer, because Rubio will never become presidente. Latinos won't give him their votes because he is too economically conservative, and whites won't give him their vote because he is not white enough.

Honestly Nick Diaz is completely right. Rubio simply isn't privildged in the way many of the white skinned Latin elite are. Continuing to harp on this seems to buy into the white privilege canard. It suggests that Rubios white skin makes him automatically elite.

Written in 1997, this short essay should be mandatory reading for the GOP and a good chunk of the American public who continually think of Hispanics as a one-size-fits-all group. It makes the same point in straight prose that Sailer is trying to make in ridiculing the GOP's amateurish attempt to woe Mexicans with a Cuban.

Excerpt:

But what do you look for when you expect to see a Hispanic face? In fact, there is no such thing as a Hispanic race.

Every race of the world exists in Latin America. There are Japanese Hispanics. There are African Hispanics. There are blond Hispanics. If many of us are brown, the majority of Hispanics are from Mexico and are, therefore, Mestizo, many us are not.

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What--after all--does the White Cuban have in common with the Black Puerto Rican? What does the Guatemalan Indian, who arrived today in the United States, have in common with the New Mexican who traces his family back to colonial Spain? Some of us speak Spanish; some do not. Some are Catholic; many are becoming Protestant.

America has a terrible system for picking presidents. 4 years ago this chap was a nobody state legislator. The idea that you can just waltz into power like this is extremely dangerous. You could end up with any kind of nut-case running the show. At least with the Westminster system you can fire your leader instantly if he turns out to be an idiot. You're stuck with yours for 4 years. Terrible.

Yes, the "conquistador" who is the son of a maid and a bartender. He is really priviledged!

Yet most white Americans, who are not descendants of anyone who did anything terrible, are still accused of privilege and held to account. In fact the whole affirmative action racket discriminates against all whites, even those who are the sons of maids and bartenders.

Sure it counts alot in Latin America but we along with Rubio live in America. If it were as simple as having white skin why don't some istevers head south and become alphas. Honestly, what does conquistador American signify is it only white skin. Plymouth Rock landed on us was a catchy slogan too.

Rubio is quite the light weight plus he beats Obama in having two non-citizen parents. They were naturalized after he was born. Plus they did not flee Castro (part of the Rubio narrative) they got here a few years prior.

So Rubio is not natural born, cannot become president. 0 was also ineligible due to one non-citizen parent

This is a red herring. There are plenty of gentile actors--and writers, technical crew, and even directors--in Hollywood. But that's not where the real power is. The power is with producers and executives who control the hiring, publicity, and finance--and reap most of the profits. Most of them are Jewish. The oscar night joke was that despite assumptions of Jewish control, there are in fact many gentile big stars in Hollywood. True enough. But the joke distracts us from the more crucial fact that the power positions in Hollywood are owned by Jews.

Also, by making us LAUGH at the notion of Jewish power, the oscars are trying to make us see Jewish power as a cute and cuddly thing. Jewish power and a teddy bear. Uhhhhh. Yeah, it must be teddy bears that are brutalizing Palestinians in the middle east. Jews get away with stuff like this because so many goyim are so dumb and gullible.

"Rubio is quite the light weight plus he beats Obama in having two non-citizen parents. They were naturalized after he was born. Plus they did not flee Castro (part of the Rubio narrative) they got here a few years prior.

So Rubio is not natural born, cannot become president. 0 was also ineligible due to one non-citizen parente"

These are the conservative "geniuses" that read Steve Sailer.

Rubio was born in the U.S. He is American. The citizenship of his parents have no bearing on his own citizenship status. America practices jus solis and not jus sanguinis like Germany or France.

Yes, the "conquistador" who is the son of a maid and a bartender. He is really priviledged!"

The term has nothing to do with being priviledged, it has to do with the fact that people conflate "hispanic" (an essentially meaningless ethnic edesignation) with "mestizo" or "latino". Rubio is about as "mestizo" or "latino" as King Juan Carlos of Spain.

"You don't need to get your panties in a wad over this, Sailer, because Rubio will never become presidente. Latinos won't give him their votes because he is too economically conservative, and whites won't give him their vote because he is not white enough."

So, completely white is not white enought for republican voters?

By the way, your hyper-aggressive asshole act wears thin after awhile. Tone it down or go away, asshole.

Yes, the "conquistador" who is the son of a maid and a bartender. He is really priviledged!"

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Lloyd Blankfein's parents are of humble class origin too.And many plantation owners in the South started with almost nothing. Andrew Jackson, for instance, grew up poor. But that doesn't mean he wasn't privileged later in life.

The fact is if you're a Hispanic with some degree of competence, both sides, libs and cons, try to court you like crazy.

"The term has nothing to do with being priviledged, it has to do with the fact that people conflate "hispanic" (an essentially meaningless ethnic edesignation) with "mestizo" or "latino". Rubio is about as "mestizo" or "latino" as King Juan Carlos of Spain."

Wrong. Sailer has equated being a white Latino with being priviledged in his endless articles about the "corrupt" whites who rule over Latin America, and in fact the word "conquistador"(conqueror) by itself denotes priviledge.

So what that there are white and non-white Latinos? For starters, most Latino whites are not exactly white in America since Americans equate "white" with a more northern European phenotype, since the whites who founded America were Englishmen of Ango-Saxon descent and these mostly have light hair and eyes(mostly).

Secondly, Latino is a CULTURAL identification. A white Argentinian has a lot more in common cultrurally with mestizo Americans than with Anglo whites. Do you have any idea how different culturally the English and the Spanish are? They have almost NOTHING in common. And they do look different.

"So, completely white is not white enought for republican voters?"

He doesen't look white to a lot of white Americans of northwestern European descent. Go to Idaho or Iiowa or some place like that and ask typical whites if Rubio is white.

Right He tried to argue that Rubio is inelegible for president because he has non-American parents. He doesen't know the citizenship laws of the own country he was born in. He doesen't even know that his country practices jus solis and not jus sanguinis. How can one have a debate with people who don't know basic stuff about basic stuff?

Do you have any idea how different culturally the English and the Spanish are? They have almost NOTHING in common. And they do look different.

Yes. The English-colonized parts of the New World are pretty decent places. The Spanish-colonized ones are trash holes full of people who want to live in the better societies that WASPs created. It's not so much that we think we are better. Y'all think we are too.

[QUOTE]Yes. The English-colonized parts of the New World are pretty decent places. The Spanish-colonized ones are trash holes full of people who want to live in the better societies that WASPs created. It's not so much that we think we are better. Y'all think we are too.[/QUOTE]

True, there are no Spanish speaking countries in the New World that have the same high standard of living as The United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.

"So what that there are white and non-white Latinos? For starters, most Latino whites are not exactly white in America since Americans equate "white" with a more northern European phenotype, since the whites who founded America were Englishmen of Ango-Saxon descent and these mostly have light hair and eyes(mostly). "

Diaz, you always go on about this without any evidence. Rubio is barely darker than the average non Hispanic white American. Most American whites do not have light hair, and probably only around half have light eyes. If you think that people do not consider Rubio essentially white looking, then you must also concede that Italian, French, Greek and Welsh Americans also deserve special status like Spaniard Americans.

Nicky:"Wrong. Sailer has equated being a white Latino with being priviledged in his endless articles about the "corrupt" whites who rule over Latin America, and in fact the word "conquistador"(conqueror) by itself denotes priviledge."

Quite right, Nicky. Whites in Latin America are very much a privileged caste.

Nicky:So what that there are white and non-white Latinos? For starters, most Latino whites are not exactly white in America since Americans equate "white" with a more northern European phenotype, since the whites who founded America were Englishmen of Ango-Saxon descent and these mostly have light hair and eyes(mostly)."

Of course they do, Nicky. Guess that's why I can't be White, seeing as how I have brown eyes and dark brown hair...

Nicky:"Secondly, Latino is a CULTURAL identification. A white Argentinian has a lot more in common cultrurally with mestizo Americans than with Anglo whites."

Watch it there, Nicky baby; you are conflating race with culture. Plenty of "mestizo Americans" don't know any Spanish. How much in common would a Spanish speaking Argentine have with an Anglophone "mestizo American?"(For that matter, the Argentines that I know loathe Mexicans...

Nicky:" Do you have any idea how different culturally the English and the Spanish are? They have almost NOTHING in common. And they do look different."

"almost NOTHING in common": Well, aside from the fact that they are both parts of Western Civilization...Of course, Anglo culture (Newton, Hume, Melville, Russell, Jane Austen, Edison, Watt, Melville, ...) is certainly superior to Hispanic cultue...

"And they do look different:"Yeah, and the Swedes look different, too, as do the Finns, the French, the Germans....

Nicky:"He doesen't look white to a lot of white Americans of northwestern European descent. Go to Idaho or Iiowa or some place like that and ask typical whites if Rubio is white."

Well, my neighbor is from Utah (and he's blond and blue-eyed, too), and he told me that Rubio looks White.

Nicky;"Hey, idiot, when I first came here I was extremely polite and received nothing but insults and ad hominem invective as response just because my opinions are different. So f-ck u, hypocrite"

See, that's the hot-blooded Hispanic buffoon that we love to read. Love the bad grammar ("as response," classic). I can practically hear the thick accent.Don't listen to the people telling you to take ESL; the misspellings and poor grammar are a vital part of what makes Nicky funny.

Secondly, Latino is a CULTURAL identification. A white Argentinian has a lot more in common cultrurally with mestizo Americans than with Anglo whites. Do you have any idea how different culturally the English and the Spanish are? They have almost NOTHING in common. And they do look different."

So why should we welcome them to what is essentially an english derived nation?

"Hey, idiot, when I first came here I was extremely polite and received nothing but insults and ad hominem invective as response just because my opinions are different. So f-ck u, hypocrite."

You came storming in here as an asshole right from the beginning, asshole. So asshole is what you shall be called. Don't like it? Go away.

The fact is if you're a Hispanic with some degree of competence, both sides, libs and cons, try to court you like crazy.

Which is ironic, indeed amazing, since one of the most striking features of Latin American politics is how quickly and easily a non-Latin individual can rise.

In a comment a few months ago I listed dozens of Latin American leaders with non-Iberian names. They were German, Slavic, Italian, Arab, English, Celtic, Japanese and quite a few Basques. (Basques are marginally Iberian by geography but quite un-Hispanic.)

Even touchy Mexico recently had Fox (German-American) and Echeverria (Basque). Says a lot for Hispanic competence!

"He doesen't look white to a lot of white Americans of northwestern European descent. Go to Idaho or Iiowa or some place like that and ask typical whites if Rubio is white."

god that's goofy. "Northern Europeans" vary greatly, and in any case phenotype differences between southern and northern Europeans are so minor that if everybody has the same accent and culture, they just aren't noticed much.Have you ever been to Iowa? Rubio would fit right in, crinkly brown eyes, square jaw, apple cheeks, firm chin, and boyish smile. No one would hesitate to vote foe him because of his alleged "race", as long as he promoted the interests of his constituents.

"So what that there are white and non-white Latinos? For starters, most Latino whites are not exactly white in America since Americans equate "white" with a more northern European phenotype, since the whites who founded America were Englishmen of Ango-Saxon descent and these mostly have light hair and eyes(mostly). "

Something like 60% of native unmixed, English have brown eyes. Actually a higher percentage than the French. I was surprised to read that in a book on the French.The rate of light eyes among Spanish is very high, and can be found in any genetics site. It's in the 40% range, as I recall, tho it depends on what is considered "light." Jose Andreas, Made in Spain" gives a nice tour through the country and its people. Beware stereotypes--Andalucians can be blondish. The northern Spaniards often have a vaguely "black Irish" look, v. dark curly hair and startlingly light, clear blue or green eyes. The skil usually tans better, though not naturally fair. The one difference I notice in southern Euros is a tendency to apple-shaped bodies as they age. Northerners put on weight in different areas, esp. the hips (women), and belly (men).

"Do you have any idea how different culturally the English and the Spanish are? They have almost NOTHING in common. And they do look different."

Okay, Little Nicky; you've convinced me.While I'm not so persuaded by your assertion that 1920s Americans had no use for Spaniards, I *am* convinced us White Americans of 2013 would do well to keep them (you) out.

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