As an Ohioan and a conservative, I am in favor of Governor John Kasich's move to expand Medicaid. Kasich had opposed President Obama's healthcare reform law and many conservatives are up in arms over his proposal.

Wow, you’ve found a way to blog pimp and pretend it’s from a news source that HAS to be excerpted. Kinda like the examiner blog, but dressed up as “Yahoo News.” Nicely played.

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Hey, here’s a novel idea.. how about CONSERVATIVE legislators at the federal and state levels pass a law where health insurance can be sold across state lines, the rates will drop because of competition and people will then be able to afford INSURANCE (which means it covers against extra-ordinary or catastrophic loss. (as opposed to “insurance” that pays for every little flu shot... does your car insurance pay for oil changes??!!)

The Republicans should have done this in Bush’s first term. Health INSURANCE would be affordable by now.

It it my firm belief that every American should have medical care. The very poor and unemployed are left to rely on emergency treatment only. And then the liability does not end there. What Governor Romney did in MA was an attempt to help all rich or poor Americans. Basically it was a good idea that needed tweaking and it was a State decision and program. Federalizing a program is not constitutional and would result in corrupting America to become a communist control form if left unchecked. Obamacare is a rotten joke.

I am not going to reply to everyone individually because most of you are saying the same thing. I am pro-life, against gay marriage and pro-gun. I am a Christian Conservative. Just because I have a heart, which many of you seem to be lacking, doesn’t mean I have abandoned my conservative values. Do you know what it’s like to live without health insurance - especially when you are working and paying into the system? To be told, “NO” you earn too much to qualify for medicaid? Probably not.

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posted on 02/06/2013 10:28:45 AM PST
by InHisService
(Jesus is coming back. Are you ready?)

Arizona already has expanded medicare and free coverage for the uninsured who come in through the emergency room, if they cannot afford to pay. So, Jan Brewer has been persuaded to take the money since not taking it would change nothing.

Get real ~ Virginia is on the edge of a Republican takeover. We never quite solidified the existence of the Republican party until quite recently. It was Democrat for over 80 years with NO Republican party anywhere. The place was a one party dictatorship under the personal rule of the Byrd family.

The medicaid expansion is going to be a tremendous disincentive to people to find a job or a better paying job because of the high cost of insurance on the Obamacare exchanges. It would be a poor trade off, make a few dollars more, but lose the medi-caid coverage, costing you $4,000 per family member.

I strongly disagree with my fellow conservatives who oppose the expansion, perhaps because for most of my life I lived without health insurance. As a low-wage earner at times, I have not been eligible for Medicaid. Quite frankly, I never understood how someone who is working and paying into the system, and is fairly close to the poverty level, could not be eligible.

I believe conservatives who oppose the move to expand Medicaid are blind to the ramifications of living without health insurance.

Due to health issues, I am on Social Security Disability, Medicaid being my secondary insurance. The insurance has been a tremendous blessing in my life and I don't know how I would live without it.

Forget the fact that SS is in the red or that we have 70 million on Medicaid. This woman is the perfect example of how one's values can be co-opted by dependence on the government. It matters not that she is getting far more out of the system than she ever contributed or that we can't afford to pay these benefits. The country is bankrupt. She wants to expand the program that costs her nothing. She is a taker.

Do you know what its like to live without health insurance - especially when you are working and paying into the system? To be told, NO you earn too much to qualify for medicaid?

If you have a job and don't qualify for Medicaid, you need to set your priorities as they relate to your income. For now, you can buy health care insurance with various deductibles to lower premiums. Maybe you have to cut back in other areas so you can purchase insurance. And if you have a medical emergency, you can always go to an ER for treatment.

It is easy to have a heart if someone else is picking up the tab for your charity.

He took a few stands the last few years and Dems easily mobilized and got OH voters against him as Ohio is barely purple. Voter ID was one where he got clobbered.

Medicaid expansion looks like ‘free’ stuff courtesy of uncle Obama. He's not going to convince Ohioans’s to personally go without health insurance esp when it looks free to the state.

I admit this is disappointing but remember : when Rush+CO make demands that all these Purple state Rs should give up their seats for one ‘principle’ or another that he cites, he makes mo money the more Dems take over. That is the nature of his business.

This is disappointing for sure, but re-districting is key to Pelosi taking back the House..

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posted on 02/06/2013 10:56:27 AM PST
by sickoflibs
(Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)

Do you know what its like to live without health insurance - especially when you are working and paying into the system?

No, we're all super-rich and evil here...just like you said. No one here has ever suffered one bit, at all.

If you had ever spent any time here, finding out about people before judging them with your super-scantimonious attitude ("Just because I have a heart" ...), you'd find out that plenty of Freepers are suffering in this economy, just like yourself. Plenty of them do not have any health insurance, just like you.

However, unlike you, they don't think that because they lack the money to pay for health insurance, that someone else should be forced to pay for it. You call that "having a heart"...they call it theft of someone else's money. Your use of compassion is a shield you use to justify taking money form others to cover your own needs. That is what children do. Real conservatives have enough self-honesty to see it for what it is.

RE :”Redistricting won't come about for another almost 10 years and the make up of the Apportionment Board won't be decided until the 2018 statewide election. Republicans currently hold every statewide office, all Ohio Supreme Court seats except one, and have supermajorities in both the Ohio House and Ohio Senate.”

Thanks, I Didnt know that. Didnt they cave on voter ID and some other fights?

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posted on 02/06/2013 10:59:27 AM PST
by sickoflibs
(Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)

Still missing a point. When a Republican Governor acts like a Democrat, it’s far more damaging nationally than when a Democrat governor acts like a Democrat - especially related to anything Obama Care.

Kasich knew what Ohio was before he ran for Governor. If it cant’ be governed conservativally, then it does our side only harm for an R to govern it like a D. I don’t want to hear shit from him on Hannity or anywhere else any more.

RE :” I dont want to hear shit from him on Hannity or anywhere else any more.”

You listen to Hannity?? As dumb as he is its worse when he gets Morris or Rove on. I gave him up years ago esp when he called for GM bailout ~ New year 2009. And he was pushing Steele for RNC on his show ~ 2008.

Back to Kasich: he either believes that medicare expansion is good for his state residents, or he is scared Dems will do to him what they did to Romney, or both which wouldnt surprise me.

I live in Maryland and the single party Dems get anything they want: raised sales tax, income tax, booze and smokes taxes, and are calling for raising gas taxes next.

They passed the Dream Act and gay marriage.

The RINOs here in Maryland make Kasich look like a brave lion hero here and gave into raising taxes under pressure (they wouldnt oppose popular spending bills) after their single fluke win then got booted for lying about it, dont forget M Steele came from here as assistant governor (GOP) after he ran for Senate and he couldnt even get black votes here .

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posted on 02/06/2013 11:25:06 AM PST
by sickoflibs
(Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)

Hey, heres a novel idea.. how about CONSERVATIVE legislators at the federal and state levels pass a law where health insurance can be sold across state lines

Obamacare actually allows this. All that is required is that the states involved agree to allow the across-state sales. So, the real issue is why CONSERVATIVE legislators in different states aren't moving to do this.

No, I don’t, but I know Kasich is on his show from time to time. And Maryland is not relevant to a Kasich conversation. Kasich ran his mouth about what a great small government conservative he was, but he has been weenied by Obama winning Ohio.

Again, he knew Ohio well BEFORE he ran for Gov - if he was going to be blown about by the winds of Ohio’s libs, he should have never run.

“...it was a State decision and program. Federalizing a program is not constitutional”

The only problem with Obamacare is that it’s unconstitutional? Socialusm is a-okay—or a good idea in need of tweaking—so long as it’s on the state level? What else should states be doing? Banning profits? Requiring licenses for all businesses whatsoever? Confiscatory tax rates? Free three square meals a day for everybody? Free university education? Gubmint takeover of fast food joints? Mandatory wearing of unisex jumpsuits in public, so as not to stand out from your fellowman and possibly make others feel bad?

Yes. I also know what it’s like to live without a car or nice clothes or steak dinners every night or a home of my own. I also don’t go around beghing fir other people to give them to me.

“especially when you are working and paying into the system?”

What system? If you’re working you can buy insurance, so long as you prioritize it. Unless you’re one of those uninsurables people are holding over our heads and for whose sake we are to overturn the industry, for some reason. Well, I hate to break it to you, but what they’re looking for isn’t insurance.

By the way, the dilemma you present is a perfect argument for why we should scrap medicaid, along with the rest of the Welfare State with its perverse incentives, not why we need to expand the bounds of socialism. As if we needed more reason than that we’re deadbeat broke.

So “moderates” are Rush’s bete noire because he wants Dems in power to boost ratings? He isn’t what I’d call the most intellectually consistent guy, and might slot his conscience’s throat to stay in power. But I find this highly incredible. You’re taking liberties to win the age-old victory versus purity debate. Go to any number of current Karl Rove thread to see how the lines have been drawn. Even Rovian establishment types, near as I can tell, haven’t yet advised Pubs to expand medicaid in the states to keep Dems from office lest they expand it ever so slightly more.

RE :”Again, he knew Ohio well BEFORE he ran for Gov - if he was going to be blown about by the winds of Ohios libs, he should have never run.”

Unless he is running for POTUS I don't see any benefit from his perspective for his saying no to this medicaid Federal Handout. Seems that if he turned it down in effect blocking the working poor single Moms and their kids from health insurance from the Feds he would be despised in his state.

After all he can look back at the DC house Rs the past two years who repealed O care >20 times and then lost seats, and the law still stands without a scratch.

Ever see Eastwood's movie Letters from Iwo Jima ?

I recall they told the island Japanese commander that they had no ship support for them, no more weapons and they were taking away the remaining planes to Japan, and no more ammunition either, as Americans are preparing to invade the Island.

So what did they send? A message telling them they expected them to die with honor, and a recording of a group of Japanese children singing “little Island Iwo Jima, only you can save Japan” to keep them going.

You wont find Republicans willing to do that.

Talk radio is like that inspiring message, its their game.

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posted on 02/06/2013 8:08:03 PM PST
by sickoflibs
(Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)

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