Earlier this month a young woman lost her 2 month old son to what will likely be ruled as SIDS. I am going to respect this mother’s privacy in this blog post. I am not going to respect the privacy of the vultures who are now exploiting this mother. This mother has been lied to and is being used and manipulated. You may sense some anger coming through my sentences. I am angry. I am trying to be understanding though as I write this.

This mother, who we will call Vanessa, lost her 2 month old son, who we will call Kevin, on August 9. On August 8, Kevin had his 2 month check up, and like almost every other 2 month old, he received his 2 month vaccinations. He likely received pneumococcal, DTaP, Hib, and polio combined in 2 shots, and the rotavirus vaccine given orally. These vaccinations are safe and effective. I can share mountains of data to support this but instead I’m going to focus on exactly how people like Larry Cook, and in particular for this blog post, Catie Clobes, distort information to trick parents like Vanessa into chasing a phantom killer.

I don’t blame Vanessa, not for one second. I imagine how I would feel, what state my mind would be in, how big of a hole I would feel in my gut and my soul if I lost a child at any age, but if I lost a child at 2 months of age without any explanation. I would desperately want a culprit. I would need a villain to hate, to unleash all my rage unto, I would have to assign blame just to make it through one day, let alone everyday. I wouldn’t need much convincing at this point either. I would be an easy, eager, and willing mark for the anti-vaccine community because they would be offering me what I need most, a reason for why my child was no longer in my arms. I don’t care who you are, or who strong you think you are, every grieving parent would welcome this gift from the anti-vaccine movement. I don’t wonder how they got to Vanessa. I wonder how any parent in Vanessa’s shoes could resist their illusion of answers at the ready.

Normally I’d go right for the big guns here and reveal who Larry Cook is in the world of vaccine deniers. But, like I mentioned earlier, I have my sights and my fury set on Catie Clobes at the moment, so I am focusing this blog post on her.

Though I am currently angry, it’s hard for me to feel anger towards Catie because she too has lost a child at a very young age. Catie’s daughter, who we will call Amy since she is a minor, had her 6 month check up on 2/27/19, and passed away on 3/1/19. Catie, like Vanessa and every other parent who lost a child to SIDS, understandably needed something to blame. I understand this and empathize how difficult this was and is for them. However, needing to blame something or someone doesn’t make your chosen target guilty or at fault. What is worse though, is that instead of focusing on finding the real fault in all of this, blaming vaccinations is putting every other newborn and young baby at risk today. They are at risk of developing diseases that their bodies are not equipped to fight, they are at real risk of dying themselves if they happen to fall ill from any of the vaccine preventable diseases they are being left exposed to because other scared parents read these stories and choose to opt out of vaccinations due to fear. THIS IS REAL. This risk that is happening is proven. There is no denying this.

In Catie’s relentless and undying search to find proof that vaccines caused her child’s tragic death, she is unable to see things for what they are. Again, I don’t blame her for this. But, at some point you have to look at the whole picture. For example:

In an August 20 post Catie shared a link to a study with the comment, “Did you know a study concluded 79.4% of children who died of SIDS received a vaccine earlier that day? 😔 You can do everything by the book to prevent SIDS but if you va***nate your baby, you're taking the biggest gamble of your life. It happened to me, it can happen to you.”However, this is not true. The truth is, according to VAERS reports, for child death reports, 79.4% received >1 vaccine on the same day. They simply received more than one vaccine on the same day, but not on the day of death. What is upsetting about Catie’s post though, is that someone commented the true information and pointed out how her post was incorrect and misleading. Catie thanked this person for sharing the accurate info, but that was all Catie did. She did not correct her post or remove her post. She is currently and knowingly leaving a false and misleading public post up on her profile. Is this because she doesn’t want to believe the actual information? Or because she wishes to further an agenda to demonize life saving vaccinations for other parents?

An August 21 post of Catie’s discusses a Minnesota case of pertussis in a 6 month old baby. Catie points out how the baby had 3 doses of the pertussis vaccine and states how the baby “got it anyways, as many do.” She fails to mention that the current recommended CDC schedule for pertussis at 2, 4, 6 months, but also at 15-18 months, and 4-6 years of age. Meaning, though most babies do have some protection against pertussis by 6 months, they are not yet fully protected. She also adds that pertussis is easily treatable. We have treatments that are often easily administered, however, fighting and recovering from this illness is anything but easy. Some babies do die from pertussis. Others can have long lasting effects from the illness. Have you ever heard a baby cough to the point they can no longer breathe as a result of pertussis. If not, I recommend you check out this YouTube video, then tell me how easy pertussis appears to be for a baby.

On August 3 and again on August 4, Catie shared a Go Fund Me campaign and post about the baby of a woman named Laura. Laura’s 2 month old daughter, we’ll call Stephi, had a doctor’s visit on 2/8/19 at about 9:30 a.m. At about 11:23 p.m. Laura’s daughter was pronounced dead at the hospital. Her daughter received vaccinations at her doctor’s appointment earlier that day. The posts, the mother’s comments on these posts, and the GFM campaign really try to make it sound like her daughter died from vaccinations. Here’s the problem though, the father of Stephi found out about the posts, the claims the mother was making, and the fundraiser. He took to the comment section of the August 4 post and informed Catie, and all those on her post, that vaccines did not play a role in Stephi’s death. Laura fell asleep on the couch while breastfeeding the baby. In fact, in an interview with Stop Mandatory Vaccination, Laura admits the two took a “nap” on the couch, but that her 2 year old daughter also joined them on the couch for a nap. Three hours later the father came home and found them asleep on the couch, with the baby unresponsive, and Stephi’s face pointing up and into the couch cushions. The father also shared the autopsy report, and in the report the coroner included that police on the scene had reported they found drug paraphernalia all throughout the home. The father also informed Catie and readers that the GFM fundraiser was being investigated by authorities as theft by deception, and that he and Laura already received $10,000 for Stephi’s death, He then asked that his daughter’s name, story, and image no longer be used and exploited for their purposes. GFM has since ended the fundraiser. However, Catie still has both of these public posts up on her profile. Why would she leave these posts up after learning the truth from the father, seeing the autopsy report, and after GFM cancelled the campaign? It’s almost like the truth isn’t what is most important to Catie. Even in her own daughter’s autopsy there was nothing to suggest vaccinations played a role in her tragic death. Catie currently has a GFM campaign in which she hopes to raise funds to pay for a private autopsy. She has raised a significant amount of money so far for additional testing, but her updates reveal that there is still no new information to show vaccines were the cause of death. She is hoping to raise another $20,000 to further investigate a link between vaccinations and the cause of death. She remains convinced vaccines caused this tragedy.

Now, I realize that hearing stories of children dying within days of vaccinations can cause one to wonder “what if?” It is apparent that correlation here is not uncommon, in fact, it’s even likely to happen when you consider that SIDS happens in the first 12 months of life, and babies receive a lot of vaccines in the first year of life. I’m going to use this explanation from someone who knows and understands statistics much better than I do, to better describe what I mean;

“Many vaccine "reactions" are actually just things that happened to occur soon after a vaccine was given, so I thought I'd do a little back-of-the-envelope math to see just how likely something happening after a vaccine due to chance might be. I'm making a ton of oversimplifications here, but I thought it was interesting just for getting a feel for the idea.

Let's imagine we are talking only about a random event that has nothing to do with vaccines. Let's also imagine that our event is equally likely to occur on any day within the first year. How likely is it that the random event happens to fall on a day soon after a vaccination?

First, we need to know how many days are vaccination days. Going by the CDC schedule, there are vaccines due at birth, 1 month, 2 months, 4 months, 6 months, and 12 months. There may also be one at 9 months, if that is when one of the recommended flu vaccines is given. Just to be as conservative as possible, I won't count the 12 month vaccines, since technically reactions to them would fall outside the one year interval (the effect of this will be to decrease the estimates). So, in the first year, 5-6 days are vaccine days. Since our event is truly random across all of the days in the first year, that means the chance that the event occurs at a given time after a vaccination is as follows:

Day of vaccination: 1.3-1.6%Day of or day after: 2.7-3.2%Within a week after: 9.6-11.9%Within a month after: 41-49%

Remember that 1% can sound small, but nearly 4 million babies are born in the US each year--a small percentage of a very large number of people is still a lot of individuals!

And what about things that are NOT equally distributed across the whole year? For example, SIDS risk peaks between 2 and 3 months, and is much rarer after 6 months. So what do our numbers look like for something that would tend to cluster earlier? Let's look at how many days are available for a random event to occur shortly after a vaccination within the first four months, counting just the birth, one month, and 2 month vaccinations.

Day of: 2.5%Day of or day after: 5%Week after: 17.5%

Month after has to be calculated differently for this one, because in the first four months, there is only a single period during which an event could occur that is longer than a month from a vaccine--between 3 and 4 months. That means that 75% of the days from birth to 4 months are within one month after a vaccine.

What's the point? Just that it is not at all unlikely for a thing that has no connection to vaccinations to happen shortly after a baby is vaccinated. If you go looking specifically for such cases, you will find them. If you ask enough individuals, you will even find a LOT of them. That isn't proof that the two are connected.”

Have you heard about the VAERS payouts of over “$4billion?” Here is much more data on that huge amount:According to NVICP, from January 1, 2006* to December 31, 2017 there were 3,454,269,356 vaccinations administered. During this same 11 year time frame 6,094 claimants petitioned The NVICP. Of those, there were 4,172 compensated, and 1,922 not compensated. This means that 99.999823% of vaccinations administered had no negative effect that required a petitioning of the court, and only 0.000177% of those vaccinations did petition the court. Furthermore, it means that 99.999879% of those vaccinations administered did so without any compensation from the court, and only 0.000121% of those vaccinations had won any compensation.*This time frame begins on this date to reflect petitions filed since the inclusion of the influenza vaccine in July, 2015. The influenza vaccine is now named in the majority of all NVICP petitions.

If this data still worries you, it’s important to point out that the burden of proof in vaccine court is lower than it is in any other court in the US. A petitioner does not have to prove causation to be awarded compensation. They only have to win the argument that their claim is possible, and that it’s possible vaccines could have been the cause. Winning a civil judgement is not the same as proving medical liability.

BUT, if the fact that deaths are reported to VAERS at all worries you, I suggest you take a moment and browse the VAERS database. Since VAERS is a self reporting system, parents can make a report on their own and make any claims or beliefs they like. VAERS does not follow up on any of the reports. I have read reports blaming a vaccine because a person drowned, died in a drunk driving accident, or was shot in the head. That isn’t to say there aren’t some genuine reports of side effects, however, I am unaware of any deaths that are documented to have been caused by a vaccine.

As for the claim that healthy babies just don’t die? Sadly history is full of evidence that this just isn’t true. SIDS has happened since humans began giving birth. I do empathize with any parent who has lost a child to SIDS. I can’t imagine not having answers, a reason, or a cause. I understand why parents like Vanessa and Catie decide to place their blame on vaccinations. However, here is where I draw the line…..

Believing to yourself that vaccines were the cause is one thing. Pouncing on any and every grieving mother that posts to Facebook about their devastating loss and feeding them a bunch of misinformation, lies, and manipulated data while omitting real facts and data is just selfish, low, andunforgivable. Exploiting another mother’s tragedy to further your agenda of blame is not honoring that mother’s child, or even your own child. You aren’t an expert, a doctor, a scientist, nor are you educated in related matters. You know nothing about the circumstances that surround the death of another baby, in fact you don’t even understand the circumstances surrounding your own tragedy. You have been shown the correct information, the facts, and the real story on many of the falsehoods you push, yet you continue to ignore them. You continue to push the narrative of the lie, and now you are pushing this onto vulnerable unsuspecting strangers on Facebook resulting in more and more unprotected babies every day. I am sorry you are hurting. I am sorry for what happened. It wasn’t fair, and it just isn’t right. It never should’ve happened. You did not deserve this and your child sure as hell did not deserve this. You have every right to be mad every day for the rest of your life. I wish I could take this pain away for you somehow. I wish your child could somehow be brought back. But none of this changes the fact that what you are doing is wrong. You are hurting other parents, and especially other children. Please. Just. Stop.

Three things jump out at me in MAM's post,1: if herbs “are not drugs,” why sell them as medicinal substitutes and claim they work better than medicine?2: if “we do not need to stop using nutritive herbs or reserve them only for special times,” then why are any of us plagued with ailments at all?3: “Resistant.” Let me explain this one in my following rant....*Please note by “lettuce” I mean herbs and “natural” foods.

MAM is correct. We don’t become resistant to lettuce, herbs, or food. Well, unless you consider an allergy to be resistant? Though, our bodies will still absorb nutrients from such foods, that is if we survive the allergic reaction. But even allergies do not affect us all and they are still rare.

Even though MAM is correct, she’s still pretty wrong with her comparison and (and this is important) in using the word “resistant” when discussing the body and medications like she does. Let me explain.....

What does resistant mean?Biological definition of resistance:“The natural or genetic ability of an organism to avoid or repel attack by biotic agents (pathogens, pests, parasites, etc.) or to withstand the effects of abiotic agents (chemicals, pesticides, salt, wind, heavy metals, etc).”

Medical definition of resistance:a : the inherent ability of an organism to resist harmful influences (such as disease, toxic agents, or infection)b : the capacity of a species or strain of microorganism to survive exposure to a toxic agent (such as a drug) formerly effective against it.**In cases where resistance is not inherent, natural, or genetic, resistance is then caused when the bacteria mutates.

Though lettuce is a biotic factor, it will not attack the human body like a biotic agent (pathogen, pest, parasite, etc..). Also, lettuce is neither an abiotic factor or agent (chemicals, pesticides, salt, wind, heavy metals, etc...).Nor is lettuce a harmful influence (disease, toxic agent, or infection) to the human body.Additionally, since the human body would not be considered a species or strain of microorganism, any capabilities of such microorganism surviving (resisting) a toxic agent (such as a drug) that it once was incapable of resisting, is redundant.

Therefor, suggesting, even through comparison, that humans could or couldn’t become resistant to lettuce is just nonsense. In this sense we prove MAM correct.

Since medicines are not harmful substances given with the intent to attack us, cause infections, increase toxicity, nor are they abiotic agents (I cover biotic agents at the end) in which we have a genetic or natural ability to resist their effects (if they were they’d suck as medicines), it isn’t correct to suggest the human body will become resistant to medications.Microbes within us can become resistant to medications, but our bodies aren’t microbes so our bodies don’t resist the medications. Microbes are microorganisms that cause disease.Our bodies can, however, build up tolerance to medications, but (and again, this is important) tolerance is not resistance.

Tolerance is a person’s diminished response to a drug, which occurs when a drug is used repeatedly and the body adapts to the continued presence of the drug.

Though medicine is normally not toxic, there are some toxic substances that can be safely used as medicine in controlled situations. However, our bodies do not become resistant to their toxicity, therefore we don’t become resistant to their medicinal effects either. There are some examples though where a (like some venom), but again I point out that tolerance is not resistance. ⚠️Tolerance to venom/toxin is incredibly rare and should never be attempted by anyone, like EVER ⚠️

MAM THINKS she is proving how lettuce is so much better at benefiting us than medicine is since the body can’t resist lettuce. But.... as per f*cking usual......MAM’s rEsuRch is either non-existent or is sorely lacking.MAM is using a state (resistance) that the human body does not form with lettuce, to show why lettuce is better than medicine, even though medicine ALSO does not cause a state of resistance of the human body.

(⬇️⬇️ Now I cover biotic agents as medicines ⬇️⬇️)Oh and MAM, you should know that even though medicine does not cause our bodies to become resistant to medicine, ironically, medicine can cause our bodies to become resistant to certain viruses and bacteria. This medicine is called a VACCINE YOU DUMB SH*T! Let’s see your lettuce do THAT!🤦🏼‍♀️ I digress....

**I realize and acknowledge that MAM could have simply chosen the wrong word in her post and in her little meme, that maybe she meant “tolerant” instead of “resistant.” However, If this were true, the fact that MAM didn’t even bother to learn the definitions of two words to understand which word is accurate would only further prove my point that she is a lazy fraud who should NEVER be listened to by anyone, and she should stick to what she knows best; teaching music...allegedly (I’ve yet to see this confirmed)

We often come across stories in anti-vaccine groups that leave us feeling suspect after reading them. We try to look into each one of these stories but we don’t always have the time. Contrary to popular belief, we are not paid shills. We aren’t even paid bloggers. None of us at What’s The Harm and NO MAM have earned a cent doing what we do on these pages and this website. Most of us have real life jobs that have no connection to our online advocacy. And by jobs this includes stay at home moms/dads since that is the hardest job of all. Almost all of us who work also have kids, and some of us even go to school. Every one of us has at least one of the three things listed above. We all have our own reasons for advocating for vaccinations, but profit is not one of those reasons. Because of this aren't always able to investigate every story or claim we read about, or confirm every Go Fund Me (GFM) campaign. The fact that we all do this for free is something that makes this blog post even more interesting. Let me explain how I learned of a couple anti-vaccine shills and a bogus GFM.

A couple of weeks ago I was looking up posts by someone selling Earthley. There was one name I kept coming across in anti-vaccine groups, especially Stop Mandatory Vaccination and Modern Alternative Mamas!, that stood out to me. This person, MC King, works as an Earthly affiliate. Please don’t take this the wrong way, I fully support selling whatever you want on Facebook. I even support selling Earthley, and I support this being done by dropping links everywhere you can. What I don’t support are the deceptive practices in which some people choose to do this. Dropping links on every post you find and commenting as though you were a customer and not someone who profits off the sales, is deceptive. Commenting in a Facebook group created to sell these products, with another affiliate as though you are a new potential customer and not a fellow affiliate, is deceptive.

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The images featured here are examples of comments made by MC King in just one Facebook group, Stop Mandatory Vaccination. I went back about 2 months since this is when she began to post links for Earthley. In a couple of these posts she claims to just be a customer of Earthley’s since they are “pro-medical freedom.” In another post someone asks MC if Earthley’s “Vaccine Detox” is safe to give to a 14 month old. MC says she thinks so but needs to check the bottle. Since most vaccinations are given to children, and since you are selling the product, shouldn’t you already be educated in the product’s safety for those who will most likely be given the product?

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This is Kira Ritter. Kira is another Earthley shill. She is also using deceptive practices with MC. MC and Kira know each other, know the other is an Earhtley affiliate, yet put on a show for readers as though this were not the case. In fact, most of the names commenting on the threads featured here are familiar with each other and Earthley. They have all been or are members of the Facebook group, Modern Alternative Mamas!, a group created Kate Teitje, the wife of Earthley's owner, Ben Tietje (according to Ohio state licensing agency). I was unable to find any information suggesting or confirming the other names were also affiliates.

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Looking into Kira brought me to her public Facebook group called Organically Healing. It was a post Kira made the morning of August 10 that sent me looking into a GFM campaign. In this post Kira claims she is being “stalked” simply for trying to help another mother. In the post she even admits the other mother “believes her baby was killed by vaccines,” not that her baby’s cause of death was vaccines. The people allegedly stalking Kira are the baby’s father and the father’s loved ones. This whole thing could’ve been avoided though. As an affiliate to a company against vaccinations Kira should have at least confirmed the claims made by the mother before creating a fundraiser and posting it on social media. Because she didn’t do this, not only does Kira look shady and untrustworthy, but so does the company she keeps. At the very least, Kira should have spoken with the father before associating her name with this story.

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I posted about Kira in a Facebook group I belong to. A fellow group member commented on my post with links to a post made by Catie Clobes (thank you R.W.!!). The links led me to a post of Catie's that shared the GFM campaign created by Kira. In the comment section of Catie’s post, the father of the baby in question posted some interesting information. The father, Mark, informed readers that his daughter did not die from vaccinations. He also informed readers the GFM campaign had been reported to police, and was under investigation as "theft by deception." Mark also included contact information for the authorities tasked with this investigation. The father went to add that he and the mother were already given $10,000 after their daughter’s death, and even uploaded an image of the autopsy report. The autopsy report states that the father came home from work and found the mother and the baby asleep on the couch. The mother said she was breastfeeding the baby a few hours earlier but that she and the baby both fell asleep. The mother woke up when the father came home from work. The report claims when the father came home he found the baby unresponsive in a “supine position with her head extended posteriorly and pushed into an area between two cushions.” The report adds that scene investigation found “abundant marijuana paraphernalia throughout the home.” The baby was then emergently transported to the hospital where she was pronounced dead at 10:23 pm. Although the mother claims the baby had a doctor’s appointment earlier that day, about 13 hours before the baby's death, there is no mention of vaccinations contributing to or causing the death of this child.

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Catie posted this campaign twice on her timeline. Under the first post made on August 3, however, I find Kira’s initial interest in this story. Kira first commented on this post on August 4, which is also the day Kira created the GFM campaign. Another screen shot shows Catie asking the mom if someone could start a GFM campaign. The mother expresses her support for this. Not long after this Kira posts links to the GFM campaign. Kira didn’t take any time to look into the claims being made by the mother. She didn’t even know the mother. She read the mother’s story from a third party on Facebook and immediately decided she should raise money for this stranger.

August 9, Stop Mandatory Vaccination adds a post to their website by Melissa Curtin. In this post, Melissa interviews the mother of this child, Laura. In this interview Laura claims the baby had a doctor’s appointment at 9:30 a.m. on February 8, the day she passed away. Mom claims the baby received vaccinations at this visit. Laura then says, “I took their father to work around 3 p.m. and came home and cleaned while Sophia slept and my other daughter played. At around 7 p.m. we had all laid down on the couch to take a nap….” She goes on to say when the father came home around 10:15 p.m. she and the father discovered the baby was unresponsive. Once the ambulance arrived, the father rode with the baby to the hospital and Laura followed in the car with their other daughter. In other words, the mom admits to Melissa that they *ALL* laid on the couch for a nap, meaning Laura, her baby, and her other daughter (2 years old), and that the nap lasted for about 3.25 hours. When Melissa asked the mom if she had a copy of the child’s vaccination record the mom replied that she did not have a copy. She explains, “I do not - the police took my paper from her vaccines that day when I went to get all of her medical records from her doctor that’s the one thing they didn’t give me.” Later in the interview, Melissa asked Laura if the hospital or doctors gave her a cause of death. Laura replied with, “I was not told a cause of death by the doctors. I’m not sure if they told her father before I arrived at the hospital with my other daughter.” Laura goes on to say that she and the father split up after their daughter’s death. This catches my attention. Somehow, according to Laura, since their daughter died about 6 months ago, Laura and Mark never discussed whether they were given a cause of death by the hospital. I just don’t believe this.

In the comment section to this interview on the Stop Mandatory Vaccination website, I posted a comment informing the website how the father disputes these claims and where he posted his proof.

There are no known documented cases where a baby died from a vaccine reaction 13 hours after administration. However, there are many known documented cases of babies dying due to unsafe sleeping conditions. Falling asleep on the couch with the mother while breastfeeding is common known unsafe sleeping practice with a newborn. Please understand, I am not trying to blame the mother here. I have no doubt this mother id grieving and I don't wish to make this time more difficult for her. But, her incorrect claims have consequences. It is those consequences I wish to prevent. Had she never given an interview to Stop Mandatory Vaccination and supported a GFM campaign in her daughter’s name, I never would have known about this child or the death of this child. The fact that she is publicly stating her child died from receiving vaccinations, vaccinations that are proven safe and effective, is naïve at best, and dishonest at worst. I blame the mother for being naïve and/or dishonest. Her naïvety or her lies will likely cause other parents to refuse vaccinations for their children, which puts every one of those unprotected children at risk. I blame the mother for contributing to spread of vaccine preventable diseases, for the unnecessary suffering of future children contracting preventable disease, and for the possible deaths of these children in the future. She is not alone though. I blame every parent who incorrectly makes these claims.

Whether anti-vaxxers are shilling pseudoscience, snake oil, or unconfirmed claims made in GFM campaigns, they are all trying to profit from lies. When confronted with the truth about their claims they accuse the other person of being the shill, even though THEY are the ones creating GFM campaigns under “theft by deception,” THEY are the ones posting links to products while hiding the fact they stand to profit off of the sales. After Larry’s dead baby GFM campaign in spring of 2018, it seems everyone in these groups has a fundraiser for one reason or another, or has some product to sell. Everyone is trying to sell one product or another, one cure or another, one promise or another. I’ve yet to come across a pro-vaccine advocate who is using their child’s illness or death to make money. Don’t get me wrong, I'm sure there may be some since shitty humans exist everywhere, but there isn’t a network of pro-vaxxers working together to make each other rich like there is in the anti-vaccine movement.

** I would like to point out that the father left his comments on these posts on August 10. As of finishing this post on August 12 at 8:00 a.m., every post and comment I displayed in this blog post are still up on Facebook. The Stop Mandatory Vaccination website still has this story posted. Everything is still published except the GFM campaign. The GFM campaign has been down since Saturday night to my knowledge.

I recently came across the post featured in the image below. As I started to write a Facebook page post to go with the redacted image, I found myself creating this elaborate comparison scenario that was becoming too long for a Facebook post. This is a common problem when pointing out stupid beliefs of the anti-vaccine movement since their idiocy knows no bounds. Leave it to anti-vaxxers to cause the allotted space of a Facebook post feel as restrictive as a 140 character Tweet.

**Most will still understand much of this blog post without reading the featured image, though I do suggest reading the post in the image before reading the rest of this blog post.

Imagine this...imagine the mom from the post featured in the image brought her son out to eat, her son drank water from the restaurant, and then he later (hours, days, weeks, months later?) died from respiratory paralysis.

Then, years later while she is waiting for a table for her and her daughter at another or the same restaurant, she goes on to tell other waiting customers that restaurant water killed her son. She follows this up by saying she has nothing against water, but that *They* need to make safer water. Out of fear, the customers decide not to drink the water that day, but then they also decide they should just take the risks of dehydration and obesity by drinking sodas and never drinking water again.

Then, these customers insist their kids shouldn’t drink water either since some strange woman told them her son died after drinking water from some restaurant.

Now, imagine extreme heat and drought develop where some of these kids live. The news urges people to stay hydrated since dehydration is now a real risk for everyone. Those parents say they know better and big water just wants profits, that big water even manufactured this heat/drought to drive profits. Or they blame a shadow government for the heat because.... "population control.” They tell their crazy theory to everyone who will listen over and over. Eventually, like with any other disinformation campaign, it begins to take hold and spread.

Next, these parents in the heat/drought areas or elsewhere refuse to provide water for their kids, and eventually pets. They give them beverages that do not provide adequate hydration to combat the extreme heat. The heat is so strong that even water drinkers are seeking medical attention for dehydration, which then causes the anti-water parents to say water is nothing more than a profit driven scam and doesn’t even work.

Then you have Coke, Gatorade, and Kool-Aid popping up saying they have the cure/protection parents are seeking, and it can all be theirs...... for a fee. These companies even hire experts to discuss the "science" behind these claims, however these "experts" are educated in computer science or psychology. Sure, they could be experts in their chosen field, but the fact they are not experts in THIS field is never mentioned.

Because more and more people, kids especially, are falling ill to dehydration, health services become strained and medical costs are rising quickly. This puts a strain on the economy but mostly on a community since work ends up being missed, bills can no longer be paid, and people begin to have more disputes with each other over proposed legislation calling for “mandatory hydration through water." Parents start to argue with educators, calling them shills for big water when educators insist on teaching kids about water instead of the conspiracy theories surrounding water.

In addition to death, other lies about water circulate. Maybe you hear that since oxygen and hydrogen are combustible, drinking water might be like drinking gasoline. You hear how people have over-dosed on water, drowned from water, or that so many children develop autism shortly after drinking water. I mean, these statements are not false after all, but they are also not true in their suggestion of causality. For example:

* People have over-dosed on water. But, there’s a lot of middle ground between dehydration and over consumption.

* Many children have shown symptoms of autism after consuming water. They have also been outside, hugged a parent, slept, ate, filled a diaper or used a toilet, celebrated a birthday, been born, etc....before the signs develop.

*People have drowned in water. But, those people have also taken baths, showered, washed their hands, been caught in the rain, drank water, etc..... an untold amount of times before they drowned.

*Sure, hydrogen is combustible and oxygen supports the process of combustion, but when combined to form water their properties change and they are no longer elemental. Also, humans, alone, are not a strong enough heat source to cause a reaction, and simply being combustible is not what threatens our safety. It is fire. It is the potential of fire coming near a combustible source while in our presence that leaves us concerned for safety.(If any of the chemistry is wrong please feel free to correct me. Chemistry is not my strong area)These events do not make water dangerous or even more dangerous as a beverage.

Before long, anti-water people hear about the VERY rare, almost unheard of, cases of individuals allergic to water. They begin to think that THEIR child could be one of those very rare cases, and apparently they think it could be every child since they use this as a reason to tell other parents not to give their kids water.

By now you have some parents refusing to even use other products containing water or made by big water. Maybe they stop wanting to use toilets or modern plumbing. They insist that sinks don’t provide clean/safe/pure/natural/organic water. They decide to catch rain water or to grab gallons from a local stream or river without applying any type of filtration. Natural companies then start selling “nature made” water that isn't required to follow federal/consumer regulations like big water does. Some fringe sect of “natural water” then insists THEIR water is the most potent since it is repeatedly added to air, to the point there’s not really any water left, because air has memory. Now people are buying air-filled water bottles to cure their hydration.

On social media, grieving parents who lost their children to dehydration/extreme heat are now being attacked and called liars and shills for big water. These parents are accused of having killed their own children by giving their children water, that the water is what caused the child to dehydrate. These accusations waver between suggesting the child's death was accidental due to an unknown underlying condition or allergy to water, to suggesting the parent KNEW of this condition and then exploited this to murder said child.

I seriously could go on and on with comparisons.....but I need to wrap this up.

Is this really what the first amendment protects? There is still debate on whether yelling “FIRE!” in a crowded theater, thus knowingly or negligently causing mass panic, injury, and possibly death, is protected free speech or not. Yelling "FIRE!" may encourage others to unintentionally act in harmful ways, however it doesn't directly cause someone to harm others for the sake of harming them. But, what about convincing others to refuse safe and effective preventative treatments for others, especially children? This isn't yelling one word one time to the public. This is working on the minds of other people. This is grooming. Should grooming others, while having nefarious intentions, be allowed to happen in the manner of which we have witnessed? I’m not saying speech should be outlawed. Outlawing speech would in fact create many new problems, and some more dangerous than this one. But, shouldn’t there be SOME kind of accountability? Shouldn't there be a financial consequence like written and explained by Dorit Rubinstein Reiss in this law review? Shouldn’t there be some kind of limit on the reach and volume of damaging speech? Shouldn't there be something discouraging bad actors from profiting off of endangering the public, and especially endangering children?

Lastly, to the OP in the featured image....Just because you have *A* right to do something, doesn't mean it is *THE* right thing to do.

Recently I have covered the anti-vaccine vitriol against those of us who advocate for vaccines, or against the Jewish community, against the medical community, and even aimed at those in government, but there is one more group of people who are more often victimized by anti-vaccine hate and discrimination than any other group of people, and that is autistic people. A post I came across from the Facebook page Future Horizons demonstrates their hate horrifically well.

Many anti-vaccination advocates hate autism much like other parents hate cancer or SIDS. Having a child with autism is often viewed as a fate worse than death by many of these parents. In fact, one mother even murdered her autistic child believing she had no other choice but to put the child, and presumably herself, out of some type of misery. This child, Alex Spourdalakis, was not the only autistic person murdered by their parents or caregivers. I am not without compassion or empathy for how difficult their lives may be, but, fuck these parents.

Before I darken your mind with this anti-vaccine abuse and antipathy against autism and those with autism, I’d like to share some data and mention a few facts for you to keep in mind about Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD).-Autism is defined as unusual development in: social skills, communication skills, and physical and expressive behaviors and interests

- Boys are four times more likely be diagnosed with autism than girls. However, that ratio is changing as the way autistic girls present is better understood

- Parents who have a child with ASD have a 2% - 18% chance of having a second child who is also affected.

- ASD tends to occur more often in people who have certain genetic or chromosomal conditions. About 10% of autistic children also have conditions such as Down syndrome, fragile X syndrome, tuberous sclerosis, or other genetic and chromosomal differences.

- Almost half (44%) of children identified with ASD have average to above average intellectual ability.

- ASD commonly co-occurs with other developmental, psychiatric, neurological, chromosomal, and genetic diagnoses. The co-occurrences of one or more non-ASD developmental diagnoses is 83%. The co-occurrence of one or more psychiatric diagnoses is 10%. These co-occurring conditions are called “co-morbidities”. One such co-morbidity is intellectual disability, or ID. ID is not included in the diagnostic criteria for autism.

- The presence, and intensity, of these co-occurring conditions determines the level of support an autistic person needs in life.

- Some autistic people have extreme difficulty using oral language, which is sometimes called “being non-verbal”, but it is more accurate to say, “non-speaking”. This is independent of intellectual disability. There are non-speaking people who have graduated from college.

- An autistic person’s support needs can fluctuate over time, and even day-to-day.

-It is estimated that of those with autism, about 49-55% have generally low support needs, about 30-37% need a moderate amount of support to function, and about 10-16% have high support needs (require 1:1 support).

- Autism is referred to as a developmental delay. Just like non-autistic people, autistic people continue to grow and change over the course of their lives.

Anti-vaccine activists, like shown in the screen shots below, often define or describe autistic people as non-speaking, requiring a diaper, and frequently engaging in such distressing behaviors as self-injury and smearing shit on the walls. This describes a person with high support needs whose needs are not being met, and may have more than one co-morbid condition. The overwhelming majority of autistic people require minimal or moderate support.Autism is not curable, but there are ever-expanding ways to mitigate the aspects of autism that are challenging.

Having autism is just another way that makes a child truly unique. I have raised three children and discovered I had to approach parenting each child differently for reasons like ADHD, personality traits, health concerns, age, even gender. Raising a child with autism would also require a unique approach and this would all depend on the individual. I have no doubt it would be challenging at times, especially for someone with no experience with autism. But, parenting IS challenging, regardless of what issues you face. Why is raising a child with autism treated with such hate and hostility, as shown in these comments, instead of faced in much the same way as raising a child with ADHD? Also, why is it that when anti-vaccine advocates hear autism they only image they portray is someone with high support needs? In doing this they are excluding and dismissing up to 90% of those with autism.

Correction: The post discussed here in Kate's Facebook group by Kate was also made to her public Facebook profile.

In a recent post to her Facebook group, Modern Alternative Mamas!, Kate Tietje, the Modern Alternative Mama, called attention to a “message” she received. The quotations are added there because that is the word Kate used in her post. It wasn’t a message though, it was a public comment left on a public post that Kate posted to her public Facebook page. The comment has been there since yesterday and Kate made her group post about the comment a few hours after the comment was made. It’s likely that Kate did this due to only a few people calling attention to the comment and offering Kate their undying support. The comment in question is still up and can be found here, though I am expecting Kate to remove it sometime soon or make the post private. I’ve included the screen shot below in case that should happen. Would you call this Facebook comment typical of obsessive stalking behavior?

In this group post by Kate, she accuses the person commenting, and everyone else who keeps an eye on the things Kate does or says, of being obsessed, needing professional help, having nothing better to do, having no life, and calls our mental health into question. I don’t really are about all of that though. In fact, I’m not going to argue any of her very rude comments about those of us who cover her dangerous advice since they are only made to gaslight those of us reading them. Instead, I’m going to tell some stories…**Screen shots supporting each of these stories can be found here on the website.

HB 559Back in May of 2018, Ohio was considering a public health bill called HB559. This bill aimed to make amendments to obtaining non-medical exemptions regarding vaccinations. One of the supporters of said bill was the CEO for the Ohio chapter AAP. This person was a very private person. She had posted and tweeted her support for the bill because it was, quite literally, her fucking job. She did not insult anyone, reference anyone, or gaslight anyone. Her presence on social media was not one of a public figure. Besides the occasional picture posted of groceries and friends in t-shirts that supported her job, she did not share much about herself or her beliefs. BUT…..since she posted in favor of HB559.....

KATE WAS NOT HAVING THAT!

Kate, who is NOT a private person on social media, then posted a series of Facebook posts directed at the CEO. This went on for days. Kate also blasted the CEO’s email address and asked her followers, people from all over the country, not just Ohio, to reach out to the CEO and “educate” her. Kate’s page has almost 75K followers and her group has almost 26K members. Kate reached out to both page followers and group members. Kate’s minions did not disappoint. You can read all about it here.

Kate and the Skeptical OBA while ago, in June of 2017, Dr. Amy Tuteur wrote an article for her website, Skeptical OB, titled “Modern Alternative Mama and the ugliest parenting post I’ve ever read.” This post by Dr Amy was in reference to a post by Kate years on Babble, however you can now only find the post here, through the wayback machine. Dr. Amy has written about Kate many times over the years calling out Kate’s hypocrisy and dangerously wrong medical beliefs. It had not been a secret that Kate disliked Dr Amy, however, it was this June 2017 Skeptical OB post that really set Kate off. And, as usual…..KATE WAS NOT HAVING THAT!Kate then posted a series of posts asking for people to report the Facebook page Skeptical OB. This thread went on for a while discussing all the ways they should ruin Dr. Amy or cause her harm in her life. Now, for granted, Dr. Amy does have a public image online and offline. She's a known advocate for women. It stands to reason that she should expect some haters. But the Ohio AAP CEO does not have a public image on social media. Also, facing haters is one thing. Facing false reports on your social media accounts or other ways to be ruined is another thing. During this time Kate also asked her army to mass report the group Banned By MAM, as well as the Facebook page of the same name. Sadly, they were successful in having both removed from Facebook.**Reminder that screen shots showing all this can be found here on the website.

Sally Newton and Erin CostelloThis brings me to my last story about Sally Newton and Erin Costello. Two private people on social media. It has been alleged that Sally and Erin are behind some pages on Facebook like What's The Harm and NO MAM. Well, this is true for Erin, in fact this is Erin typing this out. However, I can not confirm or deny this accusation for Sally. That is up to her if she so chooses. For the sake of this post though I’ll just speak on behalf of myself. It is because of Kate, and others like her, that I am involved in any Facebook pages and even this website. The Kates of social media post a serious danger to our society. I don’t spend my time on this issue because I care about private people who simply make the private decision to no longer vaccinate. I think they’re nuts but I’m not going to address them in any fashion since they mostly are a threat to themselves and their family. But with people like Kate, people with an audience, this threat then becomes a real danger to all of us. As a result, I try and do whatever I can to help counter act the spread of these beliefs. I don't have the audience others, like Skeptical OB, has, nor do I have the same size audience of Kate. I realize that the odds of me making an impact at all are small, let alone making a noticeable impact. I am very likely just wasting my time, but that is fine with me. I could think of far worse ways to waste time. In fact, I have wasted my time in far worse ways in the past. I'm far from the only person who addresses these issues though. There are over 100 other admins alone that I know and consider colleagues who also cover the lies and dangers of the anti-vaccine movement. Many have been here for about a decade covering the spread of these beliefs, and most are far more qualified than I am. So it should come as no surprise to Kate that when she makes outrageous claims and encourages people to contribute to the decline of public health, myself and many others like me, post rebuttals. But…..KATE WAS NOT HAVING THAT! Due to What's The Harm's coverage of Kate's HB559 whining, Kate then commented to her followers asking that they report the Facebook page, What's The Harm, as well as mine and Sally's Facebook profiles. She apparently felt attacked for having her public actions publicly discussed. For someone so concerned about censorship, she sure likes to take the voices of other people away from them.

Hypocrite Much?It seems free public speech without challenge is only a privilege for Kate, in Kate’s mind. She cries censorship every time she is denied even a single public post on social media, yet, when anyone else posts things that aren’t in line with Kate's beliefs then she has to sick her army on them to have their access to social media taken away. Kate doesn’t even do this attacking herself, she makes all of her followers do it for her. Kate regularly avoids confrontation with people she deems as the opposition. In fact, the person who posted this “message” to Kate discussed here is likely now blocked from viewing or commenting further on Kate’s profile page. Looking at the post now, I don’t see a reply from the person who commented so I could be right.

The difference between MAM and her dissenters like myself, Dr. Amy, and many others, is that when any of us cover MAM in anything we write for internet publication, it is because of the harm she poses to the public at large, and specifically to everyone’s children. When MAM posts about her dissenters though, it is because she is butt-hurt and wants revenge on those who dared to question her. Kate has caused me to feel fear or concern when I’ve read the things she posts, though this fear and concern are not only on behalf of myself and my family but on behalf of everyone else. In fact, I am fully vaccinated and so are my kids. I don’t have much fear of concern for me and mine. What I feel is mostly on behalf of our society. Kate has never caused me to feel butt-hurt or anything personal for that matter. I have no desire to see her ruined. I have never felt the urge to ask or encourage anyone to approach Kate or to troll her social media. Too bad Kate can’t say the same thing.

What Makes Someone Her Stalker?Though I do not know the person who commented this “message” on Kate’s post, I share every conclusion she has come to regarding Kate’s parenting choices. I also know Kate believes me to be some kind of obsessed stalker of hers. This then caused me to look at what sort of behavior Kate finds to be obsessive and who she accuses of stalking her. What I noticed is that it seems the only difference between “supporter” and “stalker," in Kate’s mind, is the difference in opinion one might form from Kate’s public sharing of her family and her life As much as I may read her posts or comments on her profile or in her group every week, I can confidently say I am not paying her nearly the same amount of attention as some of her followers. One "wannabe Kate" in particular, named Coraluna, comments on EVERYTHING Kate posts, and does so with such praise and adoration that we have often wondered if this person was really a troll. If I were to read all of Cora’s posts and comments on Kate’s Facebook for a week I would spend three times the amount of time that I currently spend on reading Kate’s shit. Yet, for some reason, Cora isn’t called a crazy stalker. I guess if I kissed Kate’s ass all day long I wouldn’t be viewed as one either. One could say that Kate loves the attention too much to get weirded out on how much interaction you have with her Facebook pages and group. In fact, I’d say Kate's take on this is that the more time you spend on all matters Kate, the better, unless you don’t agree with her every word, or if you dare to question Kate. It isn’t the time you devote to Kate that determines your mental health, it is your compliance, or lack there of, that indicate to Kate whether or not you are sane. Would I be going too far saying that if Kate had a penis she could be Donald Trump?

Conclusion?Though it is just my opinion, the conclusion I reach is that, according to Kate's posts about her "trolls," Kate should be automatically allowed to post all the shit she wants without question or consequence. She should be seen as an experienced authority on all matters of health, as well as listened to by all who read her words. As for those who don’t comply? They should lose access to social media and never be heard from again! And if anyone dares to express concern about the very public ways Kate manages her kids’ health, diet, education, or Kate’s very publicly shared and discussed ways of parenting, well then they are all just creepy stalkers with nothing better to do.Spoken like a true narcissist.

I am venturing into new territory with this blog post. I feel I should be upfront and honest though, I am going to be throwing shade at a mother of a sick child. More specifically, the mother of a child with cancer. I am not happy to call this woman on her nonsense, but I can’t forget there is the life of a little boy at risk by her actions, or her in actions rather. This mother is trying to deny her child life saving chemotherapy treatments in favor of dandelions and CBD oil. She has been trying to make a name for herself in the anti-vaccine/anti-medicine community, so I can’t help but suspect this defiant attitude of hers is fueled more by her agenda and less by her child.

I’m going to explain very briefly what has transpired up until this point. Noah McAdams, a 3 year old boy and son to parents Taylor Bland and Joshua McAdams, was diagnosed with a form of cancer called Acute Lymphoblastic Leukemia (ALL), on April 4, 2019. The common treatment for this cancer, as well as the treatment plan recommended by Noah’s care team, is chemotherapy. This specific chemotherapy treatment comes in three phases; remission induction, consolidation/intensification, and maintenance therapy. Respectful Insolence does a great job at explaining these treatment steps as well as the need for all three in a recent blog post. Basically, all three phases involve chemotherapy. The first phase is to kill the cancer cells and cause the body to go into a type of remission. However, it is not uncommon for childhood leukemias or lymphomas to appear to be gone only to come back quickly and possibly stronger than before. This is why treatment is continued in the following two phases, and why the entire treatment plan can take up to three years to complete. The good news though is that when this treatment plan is applied, it has about a 90% chance of curing the cancer. Noah’s parents agreed to this treatment plan. Noah received two rounds of chemotherapy and, like expected, appeared to be in remission after blood tests. It was at this point that Noah’s parents didn’t see the point in continuing this treatment plan since they didn't want to continue with this treatment plan, despite the fact it had so far proved effective. Taylor and Josh checked their son out of John Hopkins All Children’s hospital in Florida, and headed to Kentucky in pursuit of alternative health treatments. When Noah did not appear for his third scheduled round of chemotherapy the hospital contacted Hillsborough County Child Protective Services, who then obtained a court order to take Noah into protective custody. Once the court order was obtained, the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office alerted the public that Noah was missing and was in need of life saving medical treatment. The family was soon located, and Noah was taken into custody by the state of Florida. Though, Noah’s parents, mostly his mom Taylor, has been seen actively fighting the courts and the powers that be to have her son returned to them, she has been mostly seen fighting for the right to risk his life and his health by being able to choose whatever treatment method she feels is best for Noah, regardless of what the medical experts have to say on the matter. After several court appearances, the judge has placed Noah in the custody of his maternal grandparents and ruled that Noah is to complete the rest of his treatment plan recommended by his oncologists.

Now that everyone is caught up, I want to call attention to a few things I find troubling. On April 6, 2019, Taylor makes a post to her Facebook page to update friends and family on Noah’s condition. In this post she says that the treatment plan they are on has a 98% success rate, and that Noah’s team is working hand in hand with she and Joshua. She even goes on to say how she is going to have to sacrifice the next two years of her life, her work, and their travels to ensure Noah has successful path to a healthy recovery. This implies she is committed to Noah’s treatment plan, and that she trusts the plan to potentially be about 98% effective.

In an April 16, 2019 post by Taylor she says that she and Taylor “busted out of that hospital with no cancer cells left to spare.” She then goes on to say that doctors are “amazed” at Noah’s quick healing, and that Taylor and Joshua only agreed to this initial chemotherapy treatment to avoid a court order mandating said treatment. My question is this, why was this court order so immensely feared in the beginning that Taylor agreed to, in her mind, poison her child with chemotherapy, but now just a couple of weeks later, this court order is no longer feared but the alleged poison of chemotherapy is now flat out refused? I mean, you either fear the court order, or you don’t. You either fear the alleged poison of chemotherapy, or you don’t. This flip-flopping does not reflect genuine concern for a child, but instead reflects the personal feelings of the parent.

After having left the hospital and deciding to discontinue the chemotherapy, Taylor then alleged to everyone on Facebook that it wasn’t really chemotherapy that “cured” her son, but it was her alternative treatment regimen. She gleefully discusses these treatments in detail to social media, and happily answers everyone’s questions. She posts images of smoothies, apricot seeds, name drops several companies that sell such items, advertises that her family sells the same type of grapefruits that are allegedly essential to curing cancer, reveals that prayer played a hand in healing Noah, and even jokes about the apricot seeds containing cyanide. She also says she would never have chosen chemotherapy to begin with if she felt she had a choice. She then reassures her readers of her plans to continue to fight this medical assault ordered by the court.

After Noah was removed from his parent’s custody and chemotherapy was mandated, Taylor was then loving the media attention. She would often give media interviews or produce Facebook videos in which she would make some of the most ridiculous claims. In one such interview published on May 2, 2019 by YouTube channel Planet Of The Fakes, when asked by a reporter why it was so important to Taylor and Joshua that the hospital, John Hopkins, follow the parents’ desired diet placed upon Noah, Taylor hilariously replied,“There are a lot of foods actually that can cause cancer and feed it so ultimately if he can stay away from dairy, from breads, things like that, things that are more acidic and keep his body more alkaline, then cancer can’t survive in an alkaline environment."

In this same video when asked by a reporter why they didn't just get Noah the treatment the doctors think he needs, Taylor went on to say, “We want him to receive a treatment that has has less side effects because chemotherapy is so brutal on a body. Even an adult body so think of what it’s doing to a little person that’s only 30 pounds. That’s how we feel about it. We want to get him something that’s healthier, that is more biologically sound to him, specific to him and not just a standard protocol that they use for everybody cause we’re all individuals and he needs to be treated like an individual.”

Toward the end of this video, when asked by a reporter if they originally agreed to chemotherapy Taylor explained, “We did agree to it [first round of chemo]. We did not want to it but we agreed to do it because we knew that they would initiate all of this. So we said “Let’s go ahead and do it.” And then when we found out that he was free of the leukemia cells from his blood work, he had one more after that and then they were going to release us, and they did. From that point forward, seeing that he had no cancer cells in his body, we said “we got to find a different treatment, a better one for him.”” In another media interview video published by WTSP News Channel 10, when asked what are some of the alternative therapies Taylor aims to administer to Noah, Taylor once again gave a hilarious answer. She said,“So we are going to be using oxygen therapy, also known as oxidization which gives rich oxygen to the cells to help them regenerate and help them to restore after the damage from the chemotherapy. And we’re also going to be using alkaline diet, alkaline water, which helps prevent the spread of the chemo, or the spread of the cancer, I’m sorry, because cancer can’t survive in an alkaline environment. Of course we’re going to be using the cannabis therapy. We’re going to be using different herbs that create apoptosis which is cancer [suicide?], and other than that just giving him the most happiness and less stress as possible.”

Later in the video a reporter asked Taylor if she regretted anything about turning this into a high profile public incident. Taylor cheerfully responded, “No not at all. I think it’s really important that people know that there are other options other than chemotherapy and I think this really opened up a good discussion about parental rights about patient rights and about how John Hopkins reacts to patients in general or second opinions.”

More recently, Taylor has been found in comment sections on Facebook posts fighting with people. She reveals herself to be not the concerned mother who is simply searching to find the best and safest cancer treatment option, but is in fact your typical anti-modern medicine conspiracy theorist. She believes chemotherapy is what kills cancer patients, not the cancer itself. She is even fighting to stop Noah from receiving a routine steroid regimen that is often administered with the chemotherapy. She even claims to have holistically improved her impaired vision in one comment, thus suggesting glasses are optional, and she suggests that chemotherapy is routinely given just so the hospital can charge insurance companies for such treatments. I’m assuming this last one was to suggest that hospitals only care about making a profit of such treatments because I doubt she expects chemotherapy to be administered free of charge.

The more recent comment by Taylor I find to be the most egregious, and is also the inspiration for this blog post, is a comment she made on a thread for a post made by a scared and upset young mother who just had her four day old newborn kidnapped by the child’s father. This mother said in the post that the father took the newborn to prevent the baby from being vaccinated. Taylor, a mom who has been crying “medical kidnap” for about a month now, who has been repeatedly posting on social media about this injustice done to HER, went on to comment on this mother’s post the following,“Good job dad. I think babies need to be with their mamas but they don’t need bullshit toxins just days old.”She showed this mother zero empathy for having her FOUR DAY OLD newborn stolen from her, and even implied the mother deserved to have her child taken because she planned to vaccinate her baby. What happened to a parent’s right to choose medical treatment for their child? What happened to children belong with their mothers? What happened to supporting other parents? Apparently these things only apply to Taylor, only apply to Taylor’s agendas, only apply to Taylor’s beliefs, and anyone else who believes differently deserves the pain of having a child taken from them.

There’s one more thing I find highly suspicious throughout all of this; the fundraisers. There have been three that I managed to find thus far.Taylor’s Go Fund Me campaign is the more popular one. Taylor herself started the campaign on May 14, 2019. Part of the campaign story explains that the fundraiser aims to request help from their online community to raise funds for lawyer fees since they plan to take this all the way to SCOTUS. They also claim to need money to cover medical expenses, alternative therapies, a new home, and time to heal Noah. This also apparently includes debts accrued from the hospital for modern therapy. This campaign has so far raised $5,121 of a $50,000 goalNow, I’m not sure why they feel people should fund their new home, or debts accrued from the hospital regarding modern therapy when they have insurance that covers their medical bills. Also mentioned in the story part of this GFM campaign is a list of alternative treatments that Taylor claims she will be providing for Noah. This list is as follows,-Thermal & infrared therapy-Hyperbaric chambers- Bemer- Medical Cannabis_ Human growth hormones- Dense whole food, alkaline based nutrition plan- Rosemary extract- Allicin- Polysaccharide therapies derived from turkey tail, Reishi and Chaga fungus- An array of traditional Chinese medicinal herbs and other herbs both in tincture and tea base- Grape seed extract- Moringa- Black seed oil- Colloidal silver- Frankincense oil- Low dose amygdalin- Highest quality alkaline water- High quality probiotics- Large list of premium vitamins/supplements- Music therapy- Mirror therapy- Color therapy- Dry brushing- Parasite cleanse- Loads of sunshine.I’m guessing insurance, and especially Medicaid, does not cover any of these therapies. Taylor previously stated that they had medicaid for Noah. So, she wants donations to pay for her make-believe doctoring, and possible child abuse.

That being said, I DO FULLY SUPPORT donating to them to help make it possible for both parents to be there for Noah as he battles cancer. Every parent should have that opportunity to be by their child’s side during this time without having to worry about work, bills, or expenses. EVERY. PARENT.DESERVES. THIS. If the only way parents can achieve this is through online fundraisers then so be it. I support Taylor asking for financial help for such a reason. And, providing she doesn’t try and stop Noah’s life saving cancer treatment again, I even hope people consider donating. That being said, it is the rest of the intended expenses for these donations that I find questionable. I admit, though, this is kind of like me playing semantics on my part.

The next fundraiser I found is called Meal Train. I find nothing wrong with this fundraiser to be honest, especially since it only raised $460 of a $2,000 goal. I just felt I should include every campaign I discovered.

This last fundraiser I came across though, I find highly suspicious. It was titled Noah’s Freedom Fund and was created on Facebook. The creator of this fundraiser was Erin Marie RN, and the fundraiser advertised itself a a “fund for Caitlyn RN.” Erin Marie RN created this on April 29, 2019 for the goal to “Support Noah and his family and their fight for medical freedom. Funds will go towards raising awareness for Noah’s story, medical kidnapping and supporting changes in legislation and bringing about Noah’s Law.“ The campaign is no longer active but before it ended it raised $19,743 out of their $20,000 goal. It raised almost $20,000! It seems that “medical kidnapping” could be becoming the new “vaccines kill babies” in the world of anti-vaccine fundraisers. The page goes on to say that funds go directly into the creator’s checking account, that donations are not tax deductible, and that the campaign offers zero transparency on how funds are spent. I tried to learn about Noah’s Law but I couldn’t even find a definition. There is not find a single bit of information online about “Noah’s Law.” I find it mentioned on this fundraiser, and on a website linked to this fundraiser, but no where else and no explanation of what Noah’s Law actually is. The organization linked to this $20,000 fundraiser is Florida Freedom Alliance (FFA). So I then looked into FFA.

FFA lists their “founders” as follows;Erin – President (This would be Erin Marie RN)Afton – Chief Operations OfficerSusan – Chief Financial OfficerCaitlyn – VP of Public Relations (Caitlyn RN)Andrea – Legal AffairsMacKenzie – VP Legislative AffairsTonya – VP Marketing and AdvertisingMary Beth – VP Strategic PlanningTheir professional qualifications? Three nurses and one former lawyer. Sure, the all give themselves titles like “wellness coach,” ”certified vaccine education specialist,” and some kind of advocate or another, but besides previous employment in a hospital as a nurse and a former prosecutor, they are about as qualified in these assumed roles as I am as a writer, but at least I’m not asking for your money in exchange for my shitty writing skills. I am unable to learn anything else about FFA at this time though. The website gives very little information but encourages people to email the organization with their questions. I am currently waiting on a response to my email, though, if they realize is me, Erin Costello, asking, I may not hear back from them or have my questions answered. I signed the email without my last name so, who knows? I guess we will have to wait and see.

I want to end this by saying Taylor is a young mother. I do not remotely believe she wants to see her child harmed or ill in any way. I have no doubt that she wishes for her son to beat cancer. I also realize everyone grieves in their own way, but, usually everyone still grieves in some way. I have yet to see a video, image, or post from Taylor where she puts her son above her beliefs, puts regaining custody above her agenda, or puts the pain and loss Noah must be feeling from being separated from his parents above her insistence to make mainstream health care pay for the sins committed against Taylor. I do not doubt that she loves Noah very much. I just get the impression that she loves to hate Big Pharma a little bit more.

It has been about a month since my last MAM blog post. I tried to resist the urge to blog about MAM, I really did. But, I just couldn’t keep a few claims from MAM and my observations regarding MAM quiet. I just want to grab her followers by the shirt and ask WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING LISTENING TO THIS IDIOT?! To demonstrate what I mean while also debunking MAM’s sorely lacking claims, I’ll breakdown her post from yesterday regarding Vaccine hesitancy.

"In many countries throughout the world right now, people avoiding vaccines is growing." To begin, what does she mean by vaccine hesitancy is growing in "many" countries throughout the world? This seems highly misleading. This growing problem of vaccine hesitancy seems to be unique to privileged countries. There are some underdeveloped countries where this lunacy has spread though it has not spread at the rate in which you see in privileged countries. That isn't for the lack of trying though from the anti-vaccine zealots who prey on these unprivileged nations in hopes of forwarding an agenda that will undoubtedly also line their pockets. So let's just clear that up right now, vaccine hesitancy IS growing, but it isn't growing in a large amount of nations globally.

"These people vary in ethnicity, economic opportunity, culture, access to "health" care, and more."Those who are classified as anti-vaccine DO vary in ethnicity, income, culture, and access to healthcare. Although, that last one, access to health care, can be misleading and IS incomplete. Those who are exposed to all the perks of healthcare are sadly falling into the vaccine hesitancy group. And those with no access to proven effective health care and that are only exposed to what charlatans like MAM tell them will most likely believe what these vultures tell them. However, those with limited access to proven effective health care who understand the things such healthcare can accomplish, aren't as likely to believe this bullshit because they have seen the suffering FIRST HAND of loved ones not being vaccinated and having contracting these preventable diseases. Those who have seen what health care can do, and what the absence of health care can do, are more likely to vaccinate themselves and their loved ones.

"Many are reporting the same concerns with vaccines...." Yes, MAM is correct that many who are vaccine hesitant have reported much of the same concerns with vaccines. This is largely because once someone considers the alleged dangers of vaccines and becomes hesitant, they then seek out information. Hold that thought for a minute though....

"...and many say they have seen injury before their eyes......The stories across the board are so similar."It is also true that many are claiming to see injury happen before their eyes and SOME stories are similar....

Let's bring back that thought I asked you to hold. When you go in search of information on vaccine dangers, you can find any danger you want there to be. Much like these "injuries" that people see happen or share similar stories about, vaccines are reportedly responsible for EVERYTHING under the sun…..well, everything except immunity. You know how when you see those psychics perform, you know, the ones that talk to the dead? You know how they will start off with "I'm sensing someone who passed with an initial of J or M?" They choose J and/or M because most names begin with those two letters. By casting a wide net they are almost guaranteed to hook someone. Well, when vaccine deniers cast a wide net of ailments caused by vaccines, they are bound to catch almost any newly vaccine hesitant person seeking a possible link between [said ailment] and vaccines. For every ailment, be that cancer, HIV, or autism, whatever, there will be similar stories. This is in part because of the ailment itself depending on the ailment in question, but this is also largely because of statistics. With 7.6 billion people in the world, no one’s story is original. On top of this, when you also consider that those seeking information from these less than reputable sources are told the same shit over and over again, they become convinced that their issue must be an "injury" and must be caused by vaccines. This repetitive propaganda people read also conditions them on what to say before they have even chosen to speak out regarding their concerns.

"That they have all gotten into the same internet groups that told them to be wary and they fell for it." It isn't JUST the internet groups that have fed people misinformation and lies. It's largely websites that have done this, or media propaganda, or implied authorities on the subject that write blog posts even though they have no knowledge in such issues (🤔). The groups don't help, don't get me wrong. But there's a reason why everyone in these groups share links to all the other things I listed here above.

Up until this point MAM hasn't been completely wrong, but she hasn't been right either. She is cherry picking, ignoring numerous other variables, and manipulating aspects of certain facts, but she isn’t entirely wrong.

Here is where MAM is wrong:

"But officials would like us all to believe that all -- ALL -- of these people are lying."1) Officials aren’t the ones disputing the pseudoscience lies or the incorrect claims. I’ll cover the "officials" claim in detail a little further down.

"That they have all been victims of Russian bots, sowing propaganda."2) Russian bots did not do this. Ever since the original news article came out about Russian bots and the vaccine debate the ONLY people I have seen reference the Russian bots over and over again are anti-vaccine idiots. Yes, Russian bots spread anti-vax bullshit, they also spread pro-vaccine information too. They didn't exist to further the anti-vaccine movement in the US, they existed to further the discord surrounding the vaccine argument. The overwhelming majority of anti-vaccine nonsense you see on social media is, I am sad to say, from real people or organizations on the anti-vaccine side. That's not to say that those people or groups don't create a bunch of bots, they absolutely do! However, those are not Russian bots.

"That they are all too stupid to understand what's going on or science in general."3) They are not too stupid to understand science. They just simply DO NOT understand science because they never learned the science behind things like the immune system, viruses, vaccines, the scientific method, statistics, how to conduct a proper study, or the difference between correlation and causation. Even if they just learned how to determine the validity of an internet source when reading vaccine claims on the internet they could cut through much of the anti-vaccine bullshit.

"That they all just *think* they know that they experienced, but they are all mistaken or lying."4) I'm sure many of those who believe they, or loved ones, have been injured by a vaccine believe this to be the case because of convincing factors. Factors such as correlation, anecdotal evidence from everyone in the anti-vaccine movement, and repeated bombardment of anti-vaccine propaganda. Not many average Americans would resist falling for such conditioning. But make no mistake, IT IS CONDITIONING. They aren't lying or mistaken, they have been groomed by skillful predators.

"This would be the greatest global conspiracy ever! All these people, coordinated, lying together, without ever having spoken, to take down the vaccine program and bring back disease."5) I have never heard the anti-vaccine movement referred to as "the greatest global conspiracy ever." That is hilarious! There are people who believe in ghosts, who believe in aliens, or even Bigfoot. I would not call any of those believers part of a great global conspiracy. I would, however, call many of those people who profit from further pushing the existence of any of those things, supernatural charlatans. So, to answer this claim by MAM, the people who are pushing these anti-vaccine narratives and thus forming this conspiracy are those who profit from doing so. THEY ALL PROFIT FROM DOING SO, EVEN MAM PROFITS. But, thankfully, there aren't enough of these figure heads to form a "great global conspiracy.”

"And for what? What would they gain from doing so?"6) What they have to gain is MONEY. No one knows this better than MAM. Her entire profit margin depends on you believing her nonsense! If people trust modern medicine, then she loses customers. If people call their doctor, take OTC meds, or choose prescription meds, SHE LOSES MONEY.

**WHY THE FUCK DO YOU THINK SHE WORKS SO HARD TO DISCREDIT THESE THINGS?**

SHE WANTS YOUR MONEY! I mean what more proof do you need than the fact she has now sold out to Walmart. WALMART OF ALL FUCKING PLACES! The company is flying them (I’m assuming the whole family but she does not specify) to Bentonville, AR to meet with a buyer from Walmart. She says she hopes this will "further their mission." What mission do you think that is exactly? Do you think Walmart will help Earthley take down the monopoly held by the "mainstream" or by modern medicine? Hell no! The only mission Walmart will help further is Kate's mission to become wealthy from selling things she had to put zero work, study, effort, education, or time into understanding and creating.**

"You have to be a serious conspiracy theorist or a massive idiot to believe what the "officials" say about this. Honestly."7) How about instead of believing what the officials say, we believe what the EXPERTS have to say. Let me explain:OFFICIAL (noun): one who holds or is invested with an office. The second definition refers to referees, I think we can ignore that one though. What qualifications does it take to become an “official?” They can be elected to an office, selected for an office, basically they only have to serve an office in some official capacity. EXPERT (noun): a person who has a comprehensive and authoritative knowledge of or skill in a particular area.What qualifications does it take to become an expert? “Comprehensive and authoritative knowledge.” Ok, what does that mean exactly?Comprehensive (adjective): including all or nearly all elements or aspects of something. Authoritative (adjective): able to be trusted as being accurate or true; reliable.

So, to be an expert, one must possess knowledge of all or nearly all elements or aspects of something and be able to be trusted as being accurate or true; reliable, of a skill or particular area. When comparing an expert to “one who holds or is invested with an office,” it becomes clear that only a massive idiot would believe that the officials say….BUT, only a massive idiot would disbelieve what the experts say. If the officials say the same thing as the experts, or rather if the officials repeat the things the experts say, then where is the conspiracy? Only people who attempt to push a narrative that does not align with what experts say are, in fact, pushing a theory based in conspiracy.

Before I wrap this up, I want to cover what it is that makes MAM such an expert on matters of health for all her readers. She is not medically educated or trained. She holds a degree in music education, allegedly. I have yet to see anything beyond her claim regarding this college degree. I’ll settle for the name of the college that issued her this degree since any college will verify whether or not such degree exists for a person or not. All it takes is one email to the Registrar’s office. That covers education, or lack thereof. She has no background or work experience in any areas of health, medicine, vaccinations, or illness. She has said herself that she holds no licenses or formal certificates in areas of herbalism, alternative medicine, homeopathy, etc…. Nor has she gone through any classes on these or other related subjects. Her reasoning? According to Kate, “I do not believe that listening to someone else tell you what to think is the only or best way to get an education.” Well, that may be acceptable in matters of interior design, but when it comes to YOUR health, your CHILD’S health, or the health of any loved one, shouldn’t you demand a little more? I mean, would you let me remove your appendix because I didn’t believe that sitting in class is the ONLY way to learn surgery and that instead I chose to watch YouTube videos? Would you let your cousin represent you in criminal court because they watch a lot of Law and Order? Would you trust someone in repairing your electrical work, or your staircase, who didn’t bother to sit through the classes to become licensed or formally certified? Would you trust someone who loves to read romantic novels to serve as a marriage counselor for you and your spouse? Would you trust someone to CUT OR COLOR YOUR HAIR when all they have done is watch some DIY YouTube videos? Would you trust someone to teach you another language when they only experience they have to rely on is Google translate? I could go on, but I won’t. If you answered no to these examples (well, except for the hair cut/color one. I guess we all tend to be adventurous when poor enough, myself included), then why the fuck would you not set the same bar when it comes to the health care needs of yourself and your family?

Ok, so far Kate has no education, no formal experience, and no background in these such related fields of medicine and health. But...what about life experience? Well, Kate has largely been taken care of her whole life between living with family and then her husband. I don’t fault her for this mind you! If anything I kind of envy her. Kate has not worked outside of the home from what I can learn. She once made a post about working as a respite care worker, but I seriously doubt the accuracy of her claims since she also claimed to have a background or a specialty in special education, specifically that of autism. Besides this, I can’t find when or where she was ever employed outside the home. Once she started having kids she began blogging, which led to her website, and has now led to her shit-selling company. That takes care of job market experience. What about experience in parenting? Ok, sure, she’s a stay at home mom with 6 children. However, her parenting is never challenged. Her kids do not attend school, so Kate has no experience with teachers or schools evaluating her as a parent. Her kids have never seen an actual medical doctor, except for when broken arms become too hard to ignore, so Kate has never been questioned about her choices regarding healthcare or diet, nor has she ever been advised in ways different than she already knows. Kate’s kids do not have regular social activity time with other children and away from their parents, so Kate has never had her parenting style regarding behavioral guidance called into question. Kate also avoids situations where her beliefs could come into question. She never attends protests, she never speaks to members of her local or state government, she never debates her ideas with anyone, ever. She blocks anyone who dares to disagree with her in the comment section of her public posts on her Facebook page that is open to the public. She never explains herself for her ideas or even explains the links she shares as sources. She will provide a study link and claim it backs her argument but she never points out what part of the study backs her argument or explains how it does this. If she had, then maybe she’d see how so many of her links not only DO NOT support her argument, but often debunk her argument. Overall, Kate has no association with the world outside of her house and her business that is not completely controlled by Kate. She shelters herself and her family. Maybe she does this because she fears she will fail at real life or maybe she does this so she can be the expert in her own little world, even if that world is not at all based in reality. That is for another blog post for another time.

Given all this information about Kate’s background, education, experience, and overall life exposure, does this sound like someone who should be considered to be an authoritative voice in any area of life, let alone in areas of health? She can’t even be bothered to sit through bullshit classes on herbalism and earn a worthless certification. She has made no attempt to gain wisdom, knowledge, experience, or exposure yet she thinks she already knows all there is to know that would qualify her to advise you on medical matters for you and your family. Kate Tietje is about the WORST possible person to offer advice to anyone regarding health, medicine, parenting, education, or any other area of life. If looking things up online and reading about them made you an expert then we all would be experts in one field or another. According to my search history I should be an expert in memes and proper grammar but instead I suck at making memes and I think my spellcheck is beginning to unionize against me.

Conclusion: MAM is a fraud and an even poor one at that.

**We here at What’s The Harm do not sell anything. We do not sell products, we do not sell access, we do not sell our time or efforts, we do not sell our written words. We do not even sell advertising nor do we advertise things that are sold by other people. We do not earn a commission of any sorts in any way from any entity. We earn nothing for our efforts in all areas of our Facebook page and our website. In fact, you could say we lose money since we give our time freely and cover our own expenses like boosting Facebook posts, buying and renewing our website domain, and paying for any elective website builder options. This is why we DO NOT want anyone to ever make healthcare decisions based on anything we discuss or write about. ALWAYS TALK TO YOUR PHYSICIAN REGARDING ANY AND ALL HEALTHCARE NEEDS, ISSUES, OR CONCERNS. FOLLOW YOUR HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL’S ADVICE. DO NOT REPLACE THE EXPERTISE OF MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS WITH THE IGNORANCE OF UNEDUCATED STRANGERS ON THE INTERNET, OURSELVES INCLUDED.

I provided no links or sources for this blog post because MAM provided none for the Facebook post I address in this blog post. I’d like to see Kate be the one to try and prove my claims as false for once, that is if she finds the courage to venture outside of her manufactured world.

I took a couple days off from social media and all things vaccines this week. Today, as I did my usual catch up on all things anti-vaccine after my brief hiatus, I noticed I missed a couple of bitch-fests from Kate Tietje on both her personal, yet public, Facebook page and from her Facebook group. Now, before you assume this is another MAM post, let me assure this is not. She reminded me of a blog post I intended to publish a couple weeks ago but completely forgot about. There will be a couple of screen shots of Kate’s posts and comments, though the dozens of other screen shots featured are from other people. This blog post focuses on the rise of coveted warfare from the anti-vaccine echo chambers. Civil war seems to be the growing theme among these most violent, gun loving, second amendment preaching, privileged American terrorists. I can’t help but to wonder, however, how many of those posting the call of war, or commenting their desire for war, are doing so from the safety of their homes, much like Kate does. How many of them have also never attended a protest, have nothing to lose since they don’t have kids in public school, or how many of them rarely leave the comfort of their homes…. just like Kate Tietje?

Most of the screen shots are of posts and comments from 2019. There aren’t that many posts or comments calling for civil war before 2016. But, it’s really been over the past couple of years where we have seen a dramatic increase in these types of posts and comments. I went searching for the following posts and comments by running a group search for the keywords “civil war” and “second amendment.” Most of what I found came up under search results for “civil war." I searched the following groups; Stop Mandatory Vaccination, Modern Alternative Mamas!, HOLISTIC LIVES MATTER (Erin Elizabeth from Health Nut News), Truth Train, VaccineChoices - Fact VS Fiction, Conversations & Research, Vaccine Education Network : Natural Health Anti-Vaxx Community, Vaccination Re-education Discussion Forum, and a couple of smaller anti-vaccine groups. Though, almost all comments were found in your larger groups, groups of 50,000 or more members, with most of the comments found in groups with over 100,000 members. I have arranged the screen shots according to the year the post or comments were made. Most of the screen shots require no additional information, but on the few that do I have provided this information in the image description featured with the image itself. This mindset of all out war is nothing new mind you, though it is a growing trend we are seeing in anti-vaccination groups, and a trend that is also escalating. This mentality is certainly something that should NOT be ignored.

It looks as though Erin Elizabeth from Health Nut News is lying to us again. On a Facebook post thread found on the page Future Horizons, Erin makes several claims to be autistic, a claim I cannot find made or discussed by Erin anywhere else online or off line. With every other issue Erin has alleged to have and has blamed on vaccines, I find it highly suspect that she'd fail to mention her autism all this time, and just happen to announce her autism on an autism post from an autism page. Let’s begin with Erin’s newfound claims of autism.

ERIN HATES HER (alleged) AUTISM Below are the posts that started this autism claim. The first two images come from a sub thread of this post from the Facebook page Future Horizons, a sub thread that I happened to be commenting on at the time. In the first comment Erin says, "...I would actually trade in one of my limbs and severed off with a knife right now so I don't have autism. Being on the spectrum sucks. And especially my relatives who are on the spectrum and wipe their feces on the wall and in their mothers mouth on a daily basis when they run up to her with a dirty diaper? They would trade anything in the world not to be on the spectrum. And none of us think it's a gift. It's a disgusting curse. Signed someone with autism."In the next image she follows up her autism claim with the following two comments. In these comments she states, among other things, "Well I am a person with autism and like all these parents who claim their children are happy when they don't know anything. Let me tell you right now. It is an absolute curse to have autism. It is not a blessing. I've written a book about it. And shame on any parent who says that their nonverbal low functioning child is thriving because they can play on two iPads and they want to expose them to EMF and make them even sicker..."I feel I should mention that I found no book about autism by Erin Elizabeth. I don't know what she is talking about here. Next we have comments Erin made to the Facebook page Vaccines R Us, though the screen shot featured here can be found at this link on Vaccines R Us. These comments happened on the same Facebook page and post from Future Horizons as the previous comments, just in a different sub-thread. Here Erin once again claims to have autism. She says, "Vaccines R Us Do you have autism? Because I do. And I can guarantee you. I would do anything not to have it."Next it appears as though her man, Joseph Mercola, comes to her aide in this Facebook fight. Ok, I’ll be honest, I have nothing to base this off as of yet, but I suspect that this Joseph Mercola Facebook profile account is not actually Joseph Mercola. I think it may be another one of Erin’s accounts that she uses to create an illusion of having people who blindly and unconditionally support the crap she says. One reason I suspect this is because this is really Joseph Mercola’s Facebook page. Mercola calls is sure list himself as "Dr" everyplace he can, why would he then make a second Facebook account and leave off the "Dr?" Another reason is just look at the grammar, sentence structure, and punctuation on both Joseph accounts, and on Erin’s account You’ll see what I mean. Anyways, in Joseph's comment he says, "I would bet you $1 million those pharmaceutical mouthpieces that bend over and grab their ankles for big Pharma don't have it.....Makes me feel for the people who actually have it and the horrific predicament in which they are in, like yourself." Now that we’ve covered her autism claims, let’s move on to Erin’s lies, and especially why her autism is likely a lie.

UNCLE TOMIn April of 2017, Erin Elizabeth sent a newsletter email to Sheri Kane, and seemingly to those on Erin's mailing list, in which she includes an old photograph from the 1990s featuring Erin with her Godfather - or her dad’s brother, Uncle Tom. She goes on to claim that Uncle Tom was an author, attorney, and activist who pioneered vaccine skepticism. She claims this is proven by the fact her Uncle allegedly wrote a book on vaccine dangers in 1979. She never reveals the name of this book but goes onto say that Uncle Tom wrote and published the book with his “best friend” Bob Mendelsohn MD, and that Bob even wrote the introduction in this alleged book. The problem is though, hardly any of this can be corroborated. Tom Finn wrote a book called Dangers of Compulsory Immunizations: How to Avoid Them Legally. This was published in 1983, not 1979, and Mendelsohn never had any association with this book.

LONG TIME "HEALTH NUT?"First, I'd like to call attention to Erin's bio from her website. Her bio goes on to state, "As a long time "health nut," author and public speaker, Erin Elizabeth has had a passion for the healing arts for nearly 25 years. Erin began Health Nut News in January 2014 with humble beginnings. She's honored to have just won the Truth in Journalism Award in the 2017 Doctors who Rock Awards in Orlando alongside some of her heroes, less than four years laer. Starting in her teens, Erin worked for a green non-profit during her four years of undergrad, which inspired her to lead a healthier lifestyle, since stress became a factor at an early age." In the next screen shot, found featured on Sherri Kane's website, Erin is described as, "...a long time activist with a passion for the healing arts, working win the arena for a quarter century..." Erin claims to have been in this field since her teens, and working in this arena for about 25 years. Except, she is found to be in a different line of work for most of those 25 years. I don't care to go into detail about what Ms. Finn for a living for most her adult life. I only care to mention this because it further proves Erin to be a liar. I don’t care to comment on how she earned a living though nor do I judge Erin for how she earned a living. I fully support her choice to earn a living in such a way. As long as she’s willing and wants to work this profession, I will support her and I will even defend her against anyone who wishes to judge her. Let her do her and you do you, boo. However, here is the link that explains what Erin has been doing until about 2010s. Spoiler alert,……it wasn’t health related.

ERIN'S "VACCINE INJURY."On August 18, 2018, Erin Elizabeth gave an interview to Dr. Paul Thomas at The Addiction Summit. During this interview Erin explains her “vaccine injury.” Here she claims, “Sure, I’d be happy to share. To make a long story short, I am adopted. And my birth mother -- I don’t usually go into this, but I just feel compelled quickly -- I was born 70, so just before Roe v. Wade. So she went to Mexico, did an attempted abortion, which I survived. So then she decided that was a sign. She still could’ve tried to terminate the pregnancy, but she had me. But I was born very sick and hospitalized for the first couple, three months of my life. So then eventually my parents were able to adopt me. And I don’t know if I was double vax’d but they were first time parents, adopting a baby, and they took me for a DPT. I may have had other shots at the time; I’m not sure, and, yeah, so now known as DTaP, as you know. So they did the shot, which would’ve had thimerosal. It was January, 1971, Chicago, freezing cold winter. And I had a bad cold. And unfortunately that pediatrician said, “Oh, that’s not a problem.” And I [inaudible] MTHFR now we found out, herterozygous. So anyway, I then unfortunately had the shots and then had a 104 fever, seizures, vomiting, was hospitalized a week. The fever wouldn’t break. They did a spinal tap thinking spinal meningitis, when in fact we’re pretty sure it was encephalitis that I would’ve had. And so yeah, it was a tough start. But I really feel like I dodged a bullet. Or I’m not sure what injuries it may have caused long term, but I know that it could’ve been far worse. So I do my best to consider myself lucky and have no blame toward my parents. And my dad, he has a different point of view. But my mom’s watched now all the documentaries and gets it and really says, “Wow.” She understands about what happened, that it wasn’t a coincidence that it just happened right after the vaccine. So yeah, it was a rocky start. And I was on antibiotics a lot of my life, just chronic ear infections, a very, very sickly child. But they got me on allergy shots, which got a little better, better or worse, I guess. And I got bit by a tick in eighth grade. I was on my eighth grade camping trip, had it on my leg for two days and did have Lyme and kind of did a book about overcoming that. And yeah, so it was a rough start.” Further down during this interview Erin also reveals she suffers from Ehlers-Danlo, and that she must have inherited this trait from her birth father’s side because that’s what her birth mother told her, and she’s a doctor. She never reveals her birth mother’s name, anything about her education, or the name of the book that Erin claims her birth mother wrote and dedicated to the child she gave away, Erin. It would stand to reason that if Erin was so open, honest, and comfortable to reveal all these other life issues, alleged vaccine injuries, and much of her personal life, she would have no problem revealing she also had autism, IF she had autism. Nowhere, before this past week anyways, does she make the claim to be autistic or ever being diagnosed with autism. I should add that I doubt almost all of what she claims here during this interview, but, I have not looked into any of her other claims about her vaccine injury or family drama. I don’t really care to either. I only care about the lies she tells that hurt our vaccine rates. On a side note, I suggest reading the rest of the interview transcripts. Between Erin’s dis toward Mercola, and Erin’s obvious insecurities about her weight and her looks, it is pretty entertaining.

To wrap this post up I would just like to remind everyone of Erin Elizabeth’s dedication to posting only factually confirmed information, and her due diligence to find such information (/s). Who can forget Erin and Cheryl Atkinson’s stellar math skills and information confirmation when reporting the vaccinated to unvaccinated ratios of measles cases from Washington state and NY as seen here? I feel it is important to point out that Erin didn't just lie to claim she was autistic. She told this lie to seem like a more credible source as she commented horrific things about those with autism, and did this on a page designed for those with autism. She lied about being autistic so she could better harm those with autism. Who the fuck does that? Hopefully the ailment Erin will suddenly suffer from next week will be amnesia so she doesn't ever do this shit again.

Below is a YouTube video of Erin Elizabeth and Joe Mercola. At about the 10:30 mark Erin tells the story of her alleged vaccine injury and how her parents and her doctor don't believe she was vaccine injured. She, once again, never mentions austism.