Post subject: Re: Many immigrant workers needed if more houses to be built

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 3:45 pm

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Open Window wrote:

Eschatologist wrote:

Open Window wrote:

Leo Varadkar and his government virtually guarantee at least 1 million migrants by 2040, that's 45,500K or so a year.

That was the net increase in population, not migrants. Where did you get that from?

Are you playing with Vernes machine again!

... but seriously, you are right or are you?

Ireland's fertility rate is at replacement level, but life expectancy is increasing, so barring mass exodus there will be a significant increase in indigenous population by 2040.

I don't think Leo really cares what colour the proles are. The way I read the 2040 plan it was more a signal to the civil service to pull its finger out with services and housing, plus a signal to FDI to pile cos there's going to be sustained demand, plus Leo granting himself a license to go nuts with pro-cyclical spending. It's the same old McCreevy shite with better spin.

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Post subject: Re: Many immigrant workers needed if more houses to be built

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:22 pm

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Eschatologist wrote:

Open Window wrote:

Leo Varadkar and his government virtually guarantee at least 1 million migrants by 2040, that's 45,500K or so a year.

That was the net increase in population, not migrants. Where did you get that from?

Well assuming that the Average native family has two children, they are not going to increase the population at all, so it's either already arrived migrants who breed like rabbits, returning Irish or more migrants.Cloning is probably not an option!

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Post subject: Re: Many immigrant workers needed if more houses to be built

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:30 pm

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dolanbaker wrote:

Eschatologist wrote:

Open Window wrote:

Leo Varadkar and his government virtually guarantee at least 1 million migrants by 2040, that's 45,500K or so a year.

That was the net increase in population, not migrants. Where did you get that from?

Well assuming that the Average native family has two children, they are not going to increase the population at all

That may seem obviously true, but in reality that's just not how it works.

There are lots of factors involved, but here's one example, unrealistic but simple to understand.

Consider a society of perfectly fertile couples that has culled everyone over 40, and where everyone dies at age 80. A fertility rate of 2.0 would mean that every couple replaces itself. But nobody will die for another 40 years, so the population increases every year.

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Post subject: Re: Many immigrant workers needed if more houses to be built

Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:40 pm

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Eschatologist wrote:

dolanbaker wrote:

Eschatologist wrote:

Open Window wrote:

Leo Varadkar and his government virtually guarantee at least 1 million migrants by 2040, that's 45,500K or so a year.

That was the net increase in population, not migrants. Where did you get that from?

Well assuming that the Average native family has two children, they are not going to increase the population at all

That may seem obviously true, but in reality that's just not how it works.

There are lots of factors involved, but here's one example, unrealistic but simple to understand.

Consider a society of perfectly fertile couples that has culled everyone over 40, and where everyone dies at age 80. A fertility rate of 2.0 would mean that every couple replaces itself. But nobody will die for another 40 years, so the population increases every year.

The natives are below replacement rates simply because not all people get married and the vast majority who do only have two children, life expectancy has improved, but not so rapidly that the older are not dying off.

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Post subject: Re: Many immigrant workers needed if more houses to be built

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:09 pm

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dolanbaker wrote:

The natives are below replacement rates simply because not all people get married and the vast majority who do only have two children, life expectancy has improved, but not so rapidly that the older are not dying off.

Post subject: Re: Many immigrant workers needed if more houses to be built

Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:58 pm

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Skippy 3 wrote:

dolanbaker wrote:

The natives are below replacement rates simply because not all people get married and the vast majority who do only have two children, life expectancy has improved, but not so rapidly that the older are not dying off.

You have to get married to have children these days?

Not all married couples have children and neither do all co-habiting couples.But there are a small minority who just plenty of kids, usually one per boyfriend while having many boyfriends.

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