“A man chooses to be damned only when he has had the Gospel of Christ fairly presented to him and then consciously rejects it despite the opportunity to understand and believe. “

If this is true then taking the gospel to the ignorant is a criminal act. The majority will reject the offer and now that they are now longer ignorant, they will be condemned to burn for eternity. Whereas before they were safe in their ignorance.

The gospel becomes “bad news” for billions of people who would have been okay had they been left in their ignorance.

I saw a video a couple of years ago of a rhino that poachers had sawn the front of his face off with a chain saw, just to get his horn. Animal was still alive. One of the most disgusting things I’ve ever seen.

I’ve never been an animal rights nut, but I’d hate to see animals like rhinos and elephants become extinct because a bunch of Chinese can’t get their peckers up.

“Normalcy bias is causing many people to not see that the police are becoming quite brutal more often against citizens.”

Yeah, so? I don’t disagree with that. How many time do I have to tell you that I never said the cops were justified or correct? Maybe they were justified and maybe they were not, but how is that question to be resolved? By the courts? Or by seeing who can win a brawl? Are you advising everyone who doesn’t want to be arrested to just duke it out with the cops? See who wins? Or should people who are armed when arrested shoot it out with the cops? Hope for the best?

“The thrust of your concern is that people should be obedient to the State.”

You’re full of crap. What I said, repeatedly, is that people who are told they are under arrest should submit to the arrest, and resolve the legitimacy of it later.

I never said the cops were justified or correct. Or that they weren’t stupid, inhumane or cruel. Or that they didn’t unnecessarily escalate the incident.

All I’m saying, for the umpteenth time, is that cops necessarily have arrest powers and that anyone dumb enough to fight with cops when they are being arrested is going to lose, every time. If you think that makes me a Nazi, you’re an idiot.

You’ve written nothing that accurately characterizes my mindset on this subject. In fact, you have deliberately mis-characterized my mindset. It’s part of your well known inclination to seek attention, to be a forum celebrity. In this case you have done it be using the literary equivalent of a monkey throwing its own feces.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on that. My only point (one which the knuckledraggers on this thread can’t grasp) is that fighting with cops out on the street is lunacy. Not only is it against the law, the resister will LOSE EVERY SINGLE TIME. Sometimes tragically, as in this case.

How do you know they had no probable cause? The article said the guy was known to sell illegal cigarettes. Whether he had broken the law or not is up to others (judges, juries, etc.) to decide. But if a cop says “You are under arrest,” you have no right to resist. To do so is worse than stupid, it is criminal. The time to contest the legitimacy of the arrest is NOT out in the street.

If that’s what you believe, fine. But what about those who don’t believe what you do. Should you impose your belief on them? To put the question another way, if I decide that I want to end my life, should my choice prevail or yours?