I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.

He didn't use JUST the default UI. No DBM/BigWigs/DXE, no Skada/Recount/Omen is highly doubtful. Information/Data Collection addons are a mainstay for high-end raiding. Now as for the Default UI's framework, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Outside of addons liked DBM and Skada which provide in-game live information tools, everything else is almost always an aesthetic item that one is using to change/modify the appearence of the default framework. That being said, even if you run with 1 addon, it's no longer the default UI. No matter what it is, that addon has changed the game. Even in the most minute form, it has been changed.

Whether someone uses the Blizzard framework, TUk/ElvUI, or a full customized UI, as long as they enjoy it and it makes use of informative and helpful addons that make them more efficient at their role in-game, it doesn't matter.

Please refrain from derailing this thread. I don't care who started it and if your comment was a response to someone or something posted intentionally to flame, this thread is for posting your UI and any ellaboration of that should be simple questions/answer concerning the code/addon names used. There's enough whining and stupid bullshit on these forums, we don't need it in a thread focused at allowing every player to post their UI without fear of being ridiculed for having a personal preference. They are pixels. Get over it.

AddOns really aren't for getting better. Most serious UI designers do it because they like it, getting better is just logical since making UI's is about showing the info YOU need, where YOU need it, HOW you need it.

You might love the default UI, good for you. I hated to look at every useless part of my screen (and thus actual important gameworld), thus placed and changed everything around in a way which gives me the most possible (but not useless) information in the easiest way to process. It made me play better as a result, made the game more fun as I could see more and use my own "artistic" impression. After a while UI making is jsut to see how far you can go, it's like a strange drug or something. An addiction. You think you have the best UI in the world, then suddenly you get this new idea which is even more incredible.

Assuming you are referring to the borders on the Action Bars, Minimap, and the like with white borders. Well, I thought I would give this a try and for Raven, for some reason the color wouldn't change regardless of the settings in Masque. I mean, they change for a split second after pressing "Okay" or whatever it was after choosing the color in the menu, but then it changes back to White. I tried to reload UI, but nothing changed, even when the chosen color after the reload UI said Black. And the border on the Serenity cooldown bar (Above my pet bar and below my action bar), the black border would be near impossible to see in many situations. Thankful for the suggestion, but it doesn't seen to work for me. Maybe something I can do to work with the white borders.

If I misunderstood something, please help me; I got a D in high school English.

Don't want to repost the same UI, but links are back on the middle of page 292.

Assuming you are referring to the borders on the Action Bars, Minimap, and the like with white borders.

Aye that was what I was referring to. To me, personally, the contrast of the white borders stands out like a sore thumb. Also having two different colours on the borders would drive me absolutely insane. I have terrible OCD when it comes to little things like that.

What it comes down to though is that it works for you, that's all that matters. We can sit here and tell you what we think and give you our opinion, but it's your UI and it's completely up to you whether you change it or not.

After reading the quote, I perhaps should have elaborated a tad more on what I meant. Instead of just saying "DERP. This makes it better."

AddOns really aren't for getting better. Most serious UI designers do it because they like it, getting better is just logical since making UI's is about showing the info YOU need, where YOU need it, HOW you need it.

You might love the default UI, good for you. I hated to look at every useless part of my screen (and thus actual important gameworld), thus placed and changed everything around in a way which gives me the most possible (but not useless) information in the easiest way to process. It made me play better as a result, made the game more fun as I could see more and use my own "artistic" impression. After a while UI making is jsut to see how far you can go, it's like a strange drug or something. An addiction. You think you have the best UI in the world, then suddenly you get this new idea which is even more incredible.

I just think it's ugly and that the standard UI elements can be implemented more efficiently. I'd say it does improve my gameplay overall, but only because I'm used to a more minimalist design. I wouldn't say that I can't perform with the stock UI and nothing else, though.

I also do landscaping on weekends with some mexican kid that I "hired". He's real good because he's 100% obedient to me and does everything I say while never complaining. He knows that I am the man in the relationship and is completely submissive towards me as he should be.

Well, with the mop servers down earlier I got bored and went back to live, in an attempt to cut down the amount of addons I use. Mainly just ended up styling it and moving stuff around xD

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My resolution isn't normally this tiny but I'm on holiday and playing on my laptop. And yeeeah, this aint anything special comparing to lua pros, but I like it. Wish my grid editing skillz were good enough to make the backdrop class color instead of a single solid color tho. ^^;

Edit: Nevermind the lack of chatspacing. Noticed I'd lost it with an update. Fixed now, so the lines aren't ontop of each other.