By the sounds of it Traynor, Baumann and Ryan were only signed on a year contract and are being allowed to leave.

Williams has been told he is surplus to requirement and might be going to Sale. There was also a rumour ages ago that Thompstone might be leaving. Brady is definitely being let go, I imagine his contract has expired too.

The worrying thing is how on earth people cannot see that is a joke...especially with the it could not be more obvious

Who has responded to RagingBull's post and indicated that they thought it was not a joke?

Secondly, I was unaware that was universal code for "this is a joke". Apologies.

What worries me is how on earth someone can't tell the difference between "passed" and "past". The difference cannot be more obvious.

Your comment on Evans is a bit harsh, if you offload every rugby player who has had a couple of injuries, you won't be left with much of a team.

Both yourself and Trendy asked if it was a joke?!...It is just pretty obvious I would say but alas the moment has passed you by so there is no need to dwell on the past here

The Evans comment wasn't me it was Sapajo and I think it is a little harsh we have been unfortunate this season to have our two stand out 7's injured quite a lot as both Evans and BOC have the potential to be great 7's

Maybe time for a new section RB with confirmed ins/outs so it is clear for all?

The worrying thing is how on earth people cannot see that is a joke...especially with the it could not be more obvious

Who has responded to RagingBull's post and indicated that they thought it was not a joke?

Secondly, I was unaware that was universal code for "this is a joke". Apologies.

What worries me is how on earth someone can't tell the difference between "passed" and "past". The difference cannot be more obvious.

Your comment on Evans is a bit harsh, if you offload every rugby player who has had a couple of injuries, you won't be left with much of a team.

Both yourself and Trendy asked if it was a joke?!...It is just pretty obvious I would say but alas the moment has passed you by so there is no need to dwell on the past here

The Evans comment wasn't me it was Sapajo and I think it is a little harsh we have been unfortunate this season to have our two stand out 7's injured quite a lot as both Evans and BOC have the potential to be great 7's

Maybe time for a new section RB with confirmed ins/outs so it is clear for all?

Sorry, turns out I'm not very good at reading!

I think both me and Trendy assumed it was almost certainly a joke but wanted to double check as it seemed completely out of the blue and out of context in the thread (unless I missed something), hence the "that is a joke, right?!" rather than "I Can't believe we're getting rid of Toomua!"

By the sounds of it Traynor, Baumann and Ryan were only signed on a year contract and are being allowed to leave.

Williams has been told he is surplus to requirement and might be going to Sale. There was also a rumour ages ago that Thompstone might be leaving. Brady is definitely being let go, I imagine his contract has expired too.

You got to say our turnover of players is a red flag to issues. Whether it is a cause of the issues or simply symptomatic I'm not quite sure. But you look at the success stories of recent times, Chiefs, Sarries, now Falcons it's built over a period of time and the turnover limited. We just seem to be recycling players left, right and centre, with limited progress. I know some of things might be down to the coaching upheavels. at some point there has to be a plan and some time and patience given to see that plan take shape.

You got to say our turnover of players is a red flag to issues. Whether it is a cause of the issues or simply symptomatic I'm not quite sure. But you look at the success stories of recent times, Chiefs, Sarries, now Falcons it's built over a period of time and the turnover limited. We just seem to be recycling players left, right and centre, with limited progress. I know some of things might be down to the coaching upheavels. at some point there has to be a plan and some time and patience given to see that plan take shape.

As far as I can tell that's simply because we have turned over Head Coaches/DoR. Consistency of leadership results in consistency of player retention. This is why it would be a disaster for MOC not to work out. We would start all over and have another churn of players for the new Head Coach.

It's no surprise that the teams with the longest serving leaders have the most stable squads.

Thank goodness Sapajo corrected himself - I normally agree chapter and verse with his wise words . I too can't see much merit in keeping the welsh centre - always injured and past his best anyway . The English Evans however just needs more game time - a worthy successor to B O'C . Some of the recruitment over the past 12 months has been a joke - Traynor , Bauman , Ryan - never fit and can't be trusted even to bench .