Ryzen+ – STUPID?!?! or AMAZING?!?!

Ryzen+ – STUPID?!?! or AMAZING?!?!

AMD’s Ryzen+ is rumored to drop imminently with some clock speed advantages & not much else. There’s a few reasons why I don’t like this move, for many of the same reasons why I hated Coffee Lake’s launch.

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AMD can't release fast enough for me…since I've been waiting for super-cheap USED ryzen…(and lower ddr4 prices) and first gen motherboards will certainly come down in price. Til then, I can keep cranking on my 8320E, and rely on freesync to keep things smooth.

He's got a point. I have a Ryzen 7 1700 and it felt like yesterday when I started using it, and in 2 months there will be a 2700 to replace it. Darn it!But I sort of like the Tick-tock approach AMD is taking. I really think consumers will feel the need for higher clock speeds on Ryzen.

Freezing in the States for 7+ days, like Zero degrees and your walking around in a tropical garden with palms trees and probably 85-90f temps! Jerk. Waiting for Ryzen3 or ++ or 2, whatever. Looks like paradise man, enjoy, while we Freeze, Jerk!

Was Coffee lake rushed? Absolutely. But Intel was also just coasting on its previous products. Intel probably could have released the 6 core/12 thread mainstream part 2 years ago if they were pushing as hard as they could. Not giving consumers the best they could.

AMD needed to release Ryzen, they needed the money, they needed the marketshare, They were in the negatives of profitability before Ryzen. I also feel it was AMD's 'best' at the time, and it was a very good product. With zen+ it is on a 12nm node which wasn't available with the original zen. AMD is once again giving us their best with a new product on a new node. They need to release it to take more marketshare and keep their return to profitability.

Outside is great except next time please do it where the ground is level AND there are less trees to bump into (and the camera will have an easier time maintaining focus). Otherwise great discussion and food for thought!!! BTW, what is the defect with the Ryzen chips you mentioned but didn't actually give the name of it? Thinking of getting a Ryzen chip but want to know what the defects are for their design. Cheers!

You won't have to worry about Intel being competitive anymore. I say this as a systems architect and pen-tester. Intel knew about their processor vulnerabilities 6 years ago and continued to release flawed server chips, furthermore 1 of these vulnerabilities cannot be fixed. This means that Intel knowingly made 95% of ALL servers insecure. The first thing that will happen is MAJOR lawsuits that are likely to bankrupt the company. The second thing that will happen is that pretty much all new server purchases in the future will go to AMD. Kiss Intel goodbye… it likely won't be around for more than 2 more years. (Sure they might spin off their Desktop division but they will not have any working capital for R&D so they're still royally fucked).

They released Ryzen quite a long time ago now. Bashing on AMD for releasing an updated line about a year later because it is too soon or not enough of a leap is just petty. Better stuff for about the same prices is a good thing.

The AMD Infinity Fabric and 14 nm node has been what has been holding back the Ryzen. Now when they will offer even higher speeds, the multi-threading will become more effecient and the 12 nm production will make it more power effecient in a way that it will allow slightly higher clocks which will make it even more competitive. Then the added benefit of a tweak here and there that makes it a more refined product is welcome. We really need this competition!

The Meltdown fiasco is a nice welcome now when AMD EPYC is on the roadmap for some VPS providers and cloud service providers. It will accelerate the adoption of the EPYC, just like when Opteron showed the world that server hardware doesn't have to cost a fortune. EPYC won't be cheap but it will beat Xeon in several areas since data centers all over the world are stacking multi-CPU systems in racks just beyond comprehension and per thread performance isn't the #1 goal anymore, CPUs are fast enough. Not only is the slow page table isolation not necessary for the EPYC, but EPYC also offers significantly higher core density and faster inter-processor communcation, making a Xeon purchase a highly questionable choice. So all those big companies that compete head on in the VPS market will buy a ton of EPYC since I don't think they will be buying Xeon as if the Meltdown fiasco didn't happen. The companies that run a lot of services in parallel are the biggest losers here and EPYC does look very appealing.

I liked this video for the overview talk, you don't have to walk all the time even though a little of it is kind of neat in a way.But please keep most videos where there's more details indoor and standing still as the walking can get a tiny bit distracting at times.There's probably some balance to be struck here.I'm sure you can experiment till you'll find something that works for you. =)At any rate this was a nice change. =)

The refresh is a response to the 8th gen, Its just awesome to see that its going blow for blow once again. And i realy doubt that its just a die shrink, im guessing that there will be minimal IPC gain, but im willing to bet that overclocking will be improved greatly since it fell realy short on the gen1 for reasons we just cant explain. Im pretty sure they devoted a large chunk of their resources on fixing that.

I think the die shrink is becouse they shit-canned the 14nm prosses entirely at global foundries and now run on 12nm with 7nm following hot behind it. So why not crank out a few "new" cores while you at it? Worst case scenario your improvements dont do much, but you can still sell it as "A step forward in effeciency". Best case ; "A fine right hook to a off-ballance opponent".

if you bought gen1, sure it stings a little, but thats the tech world for ya, The moment you set your newly aquired monster gaming rig on your desk a new one, a better one will be released. This is how its always been.We all just gotten used to intel dictating the pace of deciding when its time to get someone better.

But most of all, what you seem to have forgotten to mention is this, the release of a new series pushes the price of the previous cores down hard. Competition is at an all time high, and we ALL benefit from it!

Kia releases the apostrophe and adds the technology to Ceed completely new.

Kia has a selection with new engine options, a large amount of driver assistance technology and a sporty exterior makeover and a subtle change of name. The exterior design has been sharpened with straighter body lines, lower front air intakes, new LED daytime running lights and a slightly wider and lower position than its predecessor. There is also a choice of 16 or 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels over the standard 15-inch steel numbers, plus an optional ECO package that includes an active air fin to optimize engine cooling.

Under the hood there will be several engines on offer, ranging from a 1.0-liter T-GDi engine that produces around 120 hp to a 1.4-liter engine that generates around 140 hp. There are also two diesel options with the new Kia U3 engine: a 1.6-liter CRDi with an output of 115 or 136 hp. According to Kia, the new diesel engine also offers a reduction in emissions: Ceed carbon dioxide emissions are expected to fall below 110 g / km in the new Global Harmonized Light Vehicle Test Procedure. These engines will be combined with a six-speed manual transmission or, in the case of 1.4-liter turbo and 1.6-liter diesel, customers can choose a seven-speed dual clutch system. All this will be developed in a newly developed fully independent suspension system that promises cleaner curves and stability on the road.

The expanded driver assistance package includes Lane Keeping Assist and Front Collision Prevention Aid, Rear Rail Tracking Assistance plus Lane Tracking Assist, a level 2 autonomy feature that can control other vehicles and road markings, then it controls acceleration, braking and government accordingly. Inside, there is more free space for front passengers and luggage space is improved with a larger trunk of 395 liters (104 gallons). Infotainment is controlled through a 5.0 or 7.0-inch touch screen, or an 8.0-inch unit that also handles navigation, while melodies are channeled through a JBL Premium sound system and the integration of Bluetooth smartphones it is reinforced by the availability of wireless charging. The Ceed also has the option of a heated windshield.

Bitcoin Q&A: Misconceptions about Lightning Network

What are some misconceptions about the Lightning Network? How does the onion-routing work? How does channel funding work? Are there any security or legal risks to running a Lightning node? How far is the development so far in making this technology user-friendly?

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