So you think the person who has a visible gun is more likely to have to repel a crime than the random person, unarmed or concealed carry?

For the third time, that's NOT what I'm saying, dumbass.

Say you're a robber, wanting to rob a store. If there's an armed guard, you know to shoot or disarm that person first. This is the logical thing to do, remove the biggest threat first. Say there's no armed guard, but instead some guy wearing a visible, holstered weapon. Same thing - you take him out first.

But if you don't know who may or may not be carrying, you don't know who might be the threat. You might consider the biggest guy in the store to be the biggest threat, and then get shot by a 60-year-old woman you walked right past to get to him, who pulled a pistol out of her purse while you weren't looking. That's the beauty of conceal carry.

plus, typically Open Carry requires you to carry it unloaded (no round in the chamber). \
not to mention you'll get stopped left and right because of people calling the police since theyh're most likely not aware of any open carry laws.

plus wha Frazod said.

fuck that noise.

And I'm not sold on the idea that most states allow open carry. However, even if they do municipalities are allowed to over ride it. Kansas is an open carry state. However I know of few towns that allow for it. A couple of very notable exceptions being Topeka and someone told me the other night that Overland Park just allowed it.

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Say you're a robber, wanting to rob a store. If there's an armed guard, you know to shoot or disarm that person first. This is the logical thing to do, remove the biggest threat first. Say there's no armed guard, but instead some guy wearing a visible, holstered weapon. Same thing - you take him out first.

But if you don't know who may or may not be carrying, you don't know who might be the threat. You might consider the biggest guy in the store to be the biggest threat, and then get shot by a 60-year-old woman you walked right past to get to him, who pulled a pistol out of her purse while you weren't looking. That's the beauty of conceal carry.

Was that clear enough, or should I go get some crayons?

So your position seems to be that if the would-be robber does not know who the biggest threat is, then he will decide to not attempt the robbery.

But if he sees that someone has a visible gun, then he will attempt the robbery and his first step will be to shoot or disarm the person with a gun?

What is the percentage of the adult population in concealed carry states that get the concealed carry license?

plus, typically Open Carry requires you to carry it unloaded (no round in the chamber). \
not to mention you'll get stopped left and right because of people calling the police since theyh're most likely not aware of any open carry laws.

plus wha Frazod said.

Not here... You can keep one in the pipe here..(OC and CC) I mean whats the use, you may as well carry a brick if you can't keep a full mag and one in the chamber.

Place an armed uniformed guard/cop in front of a school and he would be the first one shot or shot at if seen by someone wishing to do harm..

Put him in plain clothes and roaming around with it concealed and he could respond to the shots.

Agreed however the reason these shitbags go to malls, schools and any other gun free zones is because they know nobody has a gun. The announcement along with signs stating guns are present will prevent 99% of them~

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Agreed however the reason these shitbags go to malls, schools and any other gun free zones is because they know nobody has a gun. The announcement along with signs stating guns are present will prevent 99% of them~