You are 100% correct. I am going to rescore the whole turn for alliances and see where the error came in. Thanks!

Understandable considering there's so much to score. Maybe one of the "computer programmers" out there can help devise some sort of program to pull these things apart, at least as far as the alliance or affiliations go. Too bad we don't have Dameon Darkheart around to make a page like we had for the Morya Madness

Hammer_Minister_of_War

Posted:
Tue Feb 20, 2007 10:48 pm Post subject:

LHI wrote:

Street_Legal wrote:

Outsiders went 8-1 not 5-2 in the alliance rumble.

You are 100% correct. I am going to rescore the whole turn for alliances and see where the error came in. Thanks!

Remember My F-NO-ANT HAMMERZ Does NOT Score Any Alliance Points For or Against Anyone!

LHI

Posted:
Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:37 pm Post subject:

Street_Legal wrote:

Outsiders went 8-1 not 5-2 in the alliance rumble.

You are 100% correct. I am going to rescore the whole turn for alliances and see where the error came in. Thanks!

LHI

Posted:
Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:26 pm Post subject:

Just to be clear for everyone in the Alliance/Region contests only matches against other regional or Alliance warriors count. Stand ins, DAs, matches against your own alliance/region are not counted.

The Top Team contest is the only contest that is penalized for deaths.

Street_Legal

Posted:
Tue Feb 20, 2007 11:45 am Post subject:

Outsiders went 8-1 not 5-2 in the alliance rumble.

Apex

Posted:
Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:13 am Post subject:

Managerr wrote:

There's all this jumble about DA penalties and such--it seemed to be a common sense application that you would be penalized for DA's. (As you are in every other contest that requires you to DA) If DA's aren't counting, then why the heck did we bother with all this DA'ing on Turn 0 instead of just bringing in 0 FE teams? Why are people not allowed to join past turn 0? A clearer understanding of the rules would have brought in higher participation as well. People would have camped in and started to DA godlings without the fear that it would hurt their region (and a 1/3 chance of earning another bonus potion if they guessed right on the regional winner)

Oh well, I can't complain too much, since for the Andorian side, we would have likely had the same score. (Albeit with like 26 DA's or so) But I had to think that the only ones who knew about this was the LID side. Didn't you wonder why there were so few DA's in turn 1?

Yeah, we had no idea either. I have DA's that need to be done, but I was hanging onto them to try and get a couple of wins out of the to offset the point loss. now I don't have to worry about it.

Managerr

Posted:
Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:10 am Post subject:

There's all this jumble about DA penalties and such--it seemed to be a common sense application that you would be penalized for DA's. (As you are in every other contest that requires you to DA) If DA's aren't counting, then why the heck did we bother with all this DA'ing on Turn 0 instead of just bringing in 0 FE teams? Why are people not allowed to join past turn 0? A clearer understanding of the rules would have brought in higher participation as well. People would have camped in and started to DA godlings without the fear that it would hurt their region (and a 1/3 chance of earning another bonus potion if they guessed right on the regional winner)

Oh well, I can't complain too much, since for the Andorian side, we would have likely had the same score. (Albeit with like 26 DA's or so) But I had to think that the only ones who knew about this was the LID side. Didn't you wonder why there were so few DA's in turn 1?

pipthetroll

Posted:
Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:35 am Post subject:

LHI wrote:

Managerr wrote:

Hold on. I was under the impression DA losses counted against region and alliance score. The Andorians can't be the only one, as I'm pretty sure the Free Blades thought the same thing, otherwise, there's no way they'd have fielded the travesty they called a team in Turn 1. If that's not the case, we have a problem and you need to let us know ASAP because almost everyone turned in their stuff for turn #2 already.

In any case, I have the Delarquans losing # 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 18, 34, and 47.

Following is the scoring rule for the Alliance Contest:
Alliance Rumble:
• Each turn, the Alliance with the highest W/L percentage will receive 1 Alliance Rumble point. Wins or losses against your declared alliance or independent warriors (including DAs) are not scored.

And for the Region Contest:
Regional Rumble:
• Each turn, the Region with the highest W/L percentage will receive 1 Regional Rumble point. Wins against your declared region or independent warriors (including DAs) are not scored.

So for the alliance and regional contests DA losses do not count. Only matches against warriors from opposing factions are used for scoring.

Yeah, we all though da losses counted against you, where does the death count as an extra loss factor in? Or is that just deaths from opposing factions? We had assumed that winning 1 fight and daing 4 would result in a 1-4 record (1 win for the win, and 4 losses from the deaths); so this is incorrect?

LHI

Posted:
Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:46 pm Post subject:

Managerr wrote:

Hold on. I was under the impression DA losses counted against region and alliance score. The Andorians can't be the only one, as I'm pretty sure the Free Blades thought the same thing, otherwise, there's no way they'd have fielded the travesty they called a team in Turn 1. If that's not the case, we have a problem and you need to let us know ASAP because almost everyone turned in their stuff for turn #2 already.

In any case, I have the Delarquans losing # 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 18, 34, and 47.

Following is the scoring rule for the Alliance Contest:
Alliance Rumble:
• Each turn, the Alliance with the highest W/L percentage will receive 1 Alliance Rumble point. Wins or losses against your declared alliance or independent warriors (including DAs) are not scored.

And for the Region Contest:
Regional Rumble:
• Each turn, the Region with the highest W/L percentage will receive 1 Regional Rumble point. Wins against your declared region or independent warriors (including DAs) are not scored.

So for the alliance and regional contests DA losses do not count. Only matches against warriors from opposing factions are used for scoring.

Managerr

Posted:
Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject:

Hold on. I was under the impression DA losses counted against region and alliance score. The Andorians can't be the only one, as I'm pretty sure the Free Blades thought the same thing, otherwise, there's no way they'd have fielded the travesty they called a team in Turn 1. If that's not the case, we have a problem and you need to let us know ASAP because almost everyone turned in their stuff for turn #2 already.

In any case, I have the Delarquans losing # 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, 18, 34, and 47.

LHI

Posted:
Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:12 pm Post subject:

Ok, all the scores are up. Please pick them apart... especially the region rumble... its very close!

LHI

Posted:
Mon Feb 19, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject:

Its much easier to score from that list. Remember to dump DA fights, fights vs the same faction, and fights against stand ins. There should be 25 fights.

Can you post a breakdown? You could be right, but both me and Hombre scored it differently. (Note that we both scored it differently from ourselves too, and Street's was different as well--so a breakdown would be helpful since everyone can check their own)

Street_Legal

Posted:
Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject:

No #'s yet on the alliance score? I guess we are truly the OUTSIDERS as it was the one area overlooked thus far