If you have a license, you probably already met this question: where to grab the steering wheel? My instructor told me to use the 9&3 position, but I've heard some poeple saying 10&2 is the safer one. I've also seen people holding the wheel at the bottom, but never while driving through the hectic nightmare that is Budapest.

I'm pretty much stuck with 9&3, but I'm curious about the opinion of other folks.

I'd say that most of the time, I drive with just my left hand at 9. I go with 9&3 if there's enough other traffic around, though if I'm stuck sitting in heavy traffic I'll usually just drive with my left at 7.

KnightExemplar wrote:I'm 10/2. But my car's steering wheel has little humps that make 10/2 the most comfortable position. They're kinda hard to see in the picture, but you definitely can feel them in the Ford Focus.

I know that, my dad's Fiesta has those too, but I'm never sure about the designer's intention with them. The depressions under them seem to fit my thumbs nicely in the 9&3 position. The best steering wheel I've tried so far is that of a 1988 Ford though, mostly because the spokes are not where I'm holding the wheel (it also has a nice feel to it for some reason).

I would use the steering wheel on the right side of the car, rather than that one. But, apart from that, I'm sure I'm far more 10&2 than anything else, when the 10 isn't instead off changing gear.

Also, when the use of the Indicators is intended, I tend to slide the 10-hand down a notch (9½?) to have my little finger stuck out and whichever side of the indicator stalk is necessary to push that stalk the way I want (at exactly the point in time I consider disambiguation of intention is useful without excessive 'camping on the blinkers'). That's independent of the wheel's turning, if it is a non-straight drive up unto that point (e.g, most pre-twisty junction lead-ups), as it seems to coordinate with the "feed the wheel round" that this hand finds itself going there as it ratchets round in alternation with the other hand and will hold that new position as the other hand takes over the grip-and-move. Or, if the wheel's going the wrong way, it'll slide there (even more against the wheel than with regular ratchet-returning) in the slide-phase.

Spoiler:

(Then mirror check, nudge the stalk accordingly (holding pre-latchpoint if its necessarily brief or would be precancelling, over the latchpoint otherwise), follow-through the maneuver according to traffic conditions and/or traffic control, forward-planning that the same finger (controlling the self-centering wheel slide with both hands half-gripping, more often than not) will release or (if necessary) be in position to cancel the signal if the auto-cancelling isn't kicking in. - Sorry, but bad Indicator usage is a bugbear of mine. Latent indication far from the useful points you ought to be indicating (Roundabouts! Suggesting that you're coming off when you're going round further, or going round further when you're actually now coming off!) or lack of any indication at all, of course. As a not unoccasional pedestrian (and seemingly invisible cyclist), as well, I particularly dislike the "there are no cars, so I won't indicate. Don't indicate without checking, but don't check and then decide not to indicate, either. You may have missed someone who would benefit from half a warning that you at least think you can do what you're about to do.)

You can probably read my advanced intentions from my left-hand positions, including my thoughts that I'll be shifting gear soon (within the next handful of seconds) by the hand (when not needed to flick that stalk, first) being absent from the wheel and on the gear-knob waiting for just the right time and revs to coordinate with the clutching foot. Certainly if you see my finger stuck out from the gripping/grippish rest of the hand, as it's just that little lower than normal, you know I'll be, MSMing shortly.

(I have also used the "ball of a single palm all the way round the wheel" method, when in complex 'both gearing and steering' combo-mode, round winding and undulating tracks. It's not 100% safe and secure, but it's practical at the speed I'm likely going, not actually racing round like a rally-driver, for which I would have to learn the actual professional techniques. A regulat passenger in my car would always tell me off for doing this, though, so it's not a habit I have ever gotten into for normal driving conditions.)

On the rare occasion I'm driving, it's for more than an hour of continuous low-traffic highway, so I get bored and half the time I'm steering with a couple of fingertips clinging to the bottom. The rest of the time my hands are mostly at 10-2 for comfort and easy access to those sticks behind the wheel, or at 10-4 during long straights to fine-tune cruise-control (because no one drives at exactly the right speed).

Also I'm used to 4-spoke steering wheels, so you can rest those fingertips right at the bottom center.

Not having a car, I don't drive a lot these days. But I think usually I do 9&3, but that changes depending on other stuff. Sometimes just at the bottom, sometimes 10&2, sometimes just my left hand, etc.

If by "block" you mean that 10-2 hands lead down to forearms pointing down to/past 8-4, that seems awkward. My forearms trail around the radius (and, though I've never driven a truck, my hands and thumbs obey the old "don't risk injuring your thumbs if the spokes of the steering wheel are jinked so that they spin into them" adage and lie upon the facing side-rim of the wheel, not on the inner part of the rim).

I've heard it said that an airbag deployment can notably mark the driver's arms, in the event of the police needing to disambiguate (probably cooperatively-)competing claims to responsibility of occupants, after an accident, but I'm of the impression that I'd have my upper-arms brushed by the bag, rather than my lower ones. (Wouldn't end up with the injuries that a noon-noon driver would, possibly self-inflicted punches to the face if their forearms aren't draped far more awkwardly around the radius. Makes me wonder if people link fingers and lose the fine-motor grip for the sake of a local minima in effort required to hold that position.)

Soupspoon wrote: Sorry, but bad Indicator usage is a bugbear of mine. Latent indication far from the useful points you ought to be indicating (Roundabouts! Suggesting that you're coming off when you're going round further, or going round further when you're actually now coming off!) or lack of any indication at all, of course. As a not unoccasional pedestrian (and seemingly invisible cyclist), as well, I particularly dislike the "there are no cars, so I won't indicate. Don't indicate without checking, but don't check and then decide not to indicate, either. You may have missed someone who would benefit from half a warning that you at least think you can do what you're about to do.)

It's a pet peeve of mine too. I once heard someone saying "the car you didn't see is the one that hits you if you don't indicate". Another thing getting on my nervers is the "alibi-indicating", i.e. indicating a lane change when the car is already halfway across the white lines.

Yeah, I can see that happening, and covered the more severe facial injury possibilities mentioned1, but far more so with the arms "over the wheel" than my "around the rim". I was highly discouraged from ever going "hand-over-hand" (in pre-airbag days, even, just for reason of leverage and consistant control) so the chances of an arm significantly draped across the airbag cover exit-path seems low. (But not zero, and most likely during intensive wheel-turns when maybe more accidents could happen and even 9-3ers wouldn't be 'in position'.) Yet to be proven, though! *knocks on wood - gently - that I don't personally have to*

1 Not sure about hitting the rear-view mirror. That's an improbable target for an undirected hand, involuntarily flung off the wheel by whatever configuration of forearms blocking airbag deployment.

9-3 if I'm in a gokart or using rotational steering, and between 11-1 and 7-5 when using push-pull (so, actively cornering, usually at lower speeds - higher speeds would be dramatic if I used that much steering lock...)

Anything I said pre-2014 that you want to quote me on, just run it past me to check I still agree with myself.

My Hyundai Sonata has 4 "spokes" on the wheel, so there's a single gap at the bottom, which is where I normally default to for cruising. Usually I switch between multiple positions to reduce fatigue. Two-handed 10-2 and 9-3 with a slight preference for 10-2. One-handed (highway cruising or straight stretches of clear road) I switch between bottom-center (mostly left hand in a left-side steering automatic transmission) and top (either hand, slightly past center so I'm pulling directly across the center point of the wheel for minimal effort). I never use the top position if there's a car in front of me or low visibility or anything else that increases the chance of an airbag deployment.

At first I assumed I did something closer to 10&2, but in fact the top 2 spokes of my steering wheel where I put my hands are at 9&3. With the length of my arms and the way my steering wheel is adjusted, 10&2 is too much of a stretch and now I'm definitely happy to keep it that way. Even while going through a corner of a decent length I tend to shift my hands to 9&3 as it makes it comfortable to hold the wheel steady while turning.

I was aware of another safety tip about not hooking your thumbs around the steering wheel.

Casual mode: right hand moves around a lot - often at the top or at around 4-5 o'clock (arm resting on inside door handle), left hand resting on the gear stick.Sometimes the left takes part and I'll switch to the "bottom" configuration.I was taught "10 & 2".

(OK, "will" is being dramatic, but "can and is more likely to with 10 & 2 than 9 & 3" isn't.)

Edits because I can't type and stuff.

That's odd. I learned well before airbags became standard and drifted into a 9/3 style (with thumbs wrapped around the 'spokes' for maximum control/ABS damage). I've assumed this has been a bad thing I started driving cars with air-bags.

Xenomortis wrote:Casual mode: right hand moves around a lot - often at the top or at around 4-5 o'clock (arm resting on inside door handle), left hand resting on the gear stick.Sometimes the left takes part and I'll switch to the "bottom" configuration.I was taught "10 & 2".

Most commonly something like 7&2, maybe. Or right hand over at 10:30, who knows.

There's a certain amount of freedom involved in cycling: you're self-propelled and decide exactly where to go. If you see something that catches your eye to the left, you can veer off there, which isn't so easy in a car, and you can't cover as much ground walking.