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Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

Since something cannot come from nothing, and self creation is absurd,then the universe being created or brought into existence by an uncaused entity is the best explanation. This concept is intuitive but also agrees with reality: whatever begins to exist has a cause or a creator.

This cause or creator must be uncaused due to the absurdity of an infinite regress, in other words an indefinite chain of causes. To illustrate this better, if the cause of the universe had a cause and that cause had a cause ad infinitum, then there wouldn’t be a universe to talk about in the first place.

For example, Imagine you are a soldier ready to fire a gun, but before you shoot you have to ask permission for the soldier behind you, but he has to do the same, and it goes on for infinity. Will you ever shoot? No you wouldn’t. This highlights, the absurdity of an infinite regress and this applies to events to. Therefore, there cannot be an infinite history of past events.In similar light if we apply this to the universe we would have to posit an uncaused cause due to this rational necessity.

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

u know wut I think I might but its night over here and am sleepy,,, yeah their teachings sux .... amma add u as a friend and when am cool I will answer every question u ask ,
cool bro?

ok but i'm going to leave you something to think about. this is one of my favorite quotes. "Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? then why call him god? - Epicurus

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

I'm an atheist. I don't see a reason to believe in god, there is no proof of his existence (and that's not a reason that i cannot disprove his nonexistence either...)but that's why it's called faith...

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

I don't believe in God I feel the whole argument for God is just one big circle jerk. I mean seriously I've been asked if God didn't create it then who did? Then when I ask who created God I get the whole He was always there answer. If that's the case for God I give up.

Re: Do you believe in God? If so why? And If not, reasons? :)

Originally Posted by cptenn94

if you look at evolution and such it seems absurd to think there isnt a God based off how complex and intricate things work toghther....to me if you look at all the beuty of the world the fact that we are the ONLY sentient life form on our planet and seem to have been the only ones ever....(not including other humaniods...such as neanderathals).....there is just so much evidence to me just by looking at everything.....one of atheists main argue ments is you never see God or heaven or anything....well God used to be with us all the time with adam and eve but then they chose to sin therofore causing God to say...ok there goes your free pass....now ill leave you alone to make your own decsions fully(free will)....basically why God doesnt just walk around showing people he exists is because he wants us to have free will...the will to choose to live how we want....my opinion science explains how something works and religion explains why....the ONLY way to find out who is right is to die....EVEN if somehow there really is no God (which i dont believe) then at least what the church does and promotes(when it does so properly...there are people who abuse that power) is very good things , and help so many people and teach good morales and lifestyles.....even if you dont believe in God read the Gospels in the Bible and try to live by the teachings they teach...regardless whether you believe in a higher power it is a good way to live

srry for text wall also im gonna give you a rep

There are so many things factually wrong with this.
Let's go.

No.1 : We are not the only sentient life forms. Dolphins for example are just as sentient and nearly as intelligent us.

No.2 : It's not all that impressive how this world can exist when you start to look at the earth in a universal picture.
And you need to balance cause, effect, and time into the picture.

Everything that is in this world today, was not always here. It (here comes the magic word) evolved into it's current state, and im not talking about life, i mean, everything. Land masses, atmosphere, magnetical fields, you name it.

No.3 : This annoys me the most about the " free will " argument. If he TRULY wanted us to exact free will, then why do you get judged for heaven or hell after you die ? If he so appearantly doesnt give a crap anyway ....

So he clearly does care about good or bad, then if so, why not prevent the bad instead of condemning it ?
Clearly that would be a lot better situation, and hey, he is God, how hard can it be to make this small change ?

Things like that make me 100 % sure there is no God.

I saw a video online recently of a Mexican drug cartel executing 2 people with a chainsaw just to make a statement to a rival cartel.
That was the stuff of nightmares.
If in this world, that can happen, there is no God. And even on the off chance im wrong, God is a total ****ing douchebag.