I learned today that Apple has released a beta of their latest version of the Safari web browser for Windoze. I'm using it now on a Win2K partition. It seems to work nicely to this point. Apple states that it needs WinXP or Vista to work, but it also works on Win2K. It would be interesting to see whether Apple ports Safari to Linux. Probably won't happen, but...

That guy needs a reality check. The segway is a(n expensive) toy, their crappy browser is a crappy browser, that's all there is to it.

The majority of Wind OS users don't seem to care about using an alternative browser instead of IE, those that do already have plenty of choice. If he honestly believes that browser can get 25% market share he probably also believes in fairytales.

The majority of Wind OS users don't seem to care about using an alternative browser instead of IE, those that do already have plenty of choice. If he honestly believes that browser can get 25% market share he probably also believes in fairytales.

The majority of the Windows users I deal with do not even know what a webbrowser is (bravo, Bill). Suggesting that they can use something other than IE, I am met with blank stares (and at that point I abandon any hope for their salvation).

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The majority of Wind OS users don't seem to care about using an alternative browser instead of IE, those that do already have plenty of choice. If he honestly believes that browser can get 25% market share he probably also believes in fairytales.

The majority of the Windows users I deal with do not even know what a webbrowser is (bravo, Bill). Suggesting that they can use something other than IE, I am met with blank stares (and at that point I abandon any hope for their salvation).

LOL I did that on my father's computer. I think that is forgiven by the Moses Table though .Asa Dotzler (the spread ff project leader) visited Argentina recently, the spread firefox project looks very active. I dont know about the results , but Firefox owns the 20% of the market, which is pretty good given the ie advantages (preinstalled in almost every computer). I dont know if the spread ff project has something to do with that though. The hanimizzle tactic could really work if a lot of people makes a commitment with it, I am with you, I will install ff on every computer I can, at nights.

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I am not a Firefox lover. It's Opera all the way here. When I use Firefox I'm constantly missing features Opera has that Firefox doesn't, or that you need Firefox extensions to get.

I like IE much less than Firefox, though. Unfortunately, I still run across Web sites that don't work with anything but IE. I usually send a complaint to the Webmaster. Maybe if enough of us do that, they'll drop the proprietary stuff.--GrannyGeek

The majority of the Windows users I deal with do not even know what a webbrowser is (bravo, Bill).

I wouldn't blame Bill for that. My husband is one of those who doesn't know what a browser is. If I tell him to start the browser, he gives me a blank stare. He's not much of a computer user and since he does e-mail or reads a Web page only after I've got the browser up, he's using Linux and Opera, not Windows and IE. He's probably way more typical of computer users than almost everyone on this board.

Hey, people don't even know what OS they're using, much less what an operating system is. On forums where I do online support we ask people "what version of Windows are you using" and more likely than not, they say "Microsoft Word." --GrannyGeek

Hey, people don't even know what OS they're using, much less what an operating system is. On forums where I do online support we ask people "what version of Windows are you using" and more likely than not, they say "Microsoft Word." --GrannyGeek

I can verify that! Used to be regularly told by people that their operating system was Windows 97 - meaning that they were running MS Office 97! When I was still an IT instructor the European Computer Driving License had a module that could best be described as an introduction to computers, where the idea of an operating system was introduced as distinct from application software. Many students just couldn't understand the distinction and took a long time to get their heads round the concept. Ask a person what web browser they are running and you get the answer, "its a Dell". Unfortunately people don't understand the basics, but then on another level why should they, a computer is a tool, if it gets the job done then what does it matter if they don't know their browser from the make of the computer builder?