Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

That said, Vickers went from bad ass all around player to monster so the question becomes if he changed his body so much he cant go back.

This.

Vickers came into the league as a leaner, better pass-catching Back. He bulked up, became a blocking machine, and dropped tons of balls the last 2 years that could've been big plays had he held on. Also, his effectiveness running the ball went down. Vickers is mainly just a blocker at this point, imho.

That said, Vickers went from bad ass all around player to monster so the question becomes if he changed his body so much he cant go back.

This.

Vickers came into the league as a leaner, better pass-catching Back. He bulked up, became a blocking machine, and dropped tons of balls the last 2 years that could've been big plays had he held on. Also, his effectiveness running the ball went down. Vickers is mainly just a blocker at this point, imho.

How many attempts did he get? Pretty small sample size Hiko.

I'm unconvinced that a guy once compared to Larry Centers as a prospect is now completely locked into being Daryl Johnston. Not sayin he's Marc Edwards, but I still think there were other needs.

F it. It's a 4th rounder. Better than the Cameron pick of a guy who caught 16 balls in a career

That said, Vickers went from bad ass all around player to monster so the question becomes if he changed his body so much he cant go back.

This.

Vickers came into the league as a leaner, better pass-catching Back. He bulked up, became a blocking machine, and dropped tons of balls the last 2 years that could've been big plays had he held on. Also, his effectiveness running the ball went down. Vickers is mainly just a blocker at this point, imho.

How many attempts did he get? Pretty small sample size Hiko.

I'm unconvinced that a guy once compared to Larry Centers as a prospect is now completely locked into being Daryl Johnston. Not sayin he's Marc Edwards, but I still think there were other needs.

I don't care. You get more opportunities if you do something other than have the ball clunk off your hands like they were made of cement.

I agree there were other needs and didn't like the Merecic pick. But that's not a defense of Vickers' WCO viability, just that it wasn't as vital (to me) as other positions.

Maybe they just thought Vickers was gonna be too expensive to keep as a FB.

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Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

I think if they had zero faith in Hardesty, they would've taken a HB already too. If Hardesty goes down, they have nothing but Hillis again, so they must think Hardesty is gonna be at least functional.

I think if they had zero faith in Hardesty, they would've taken a HB already too. If Hardesty goes down, they have nothing but Hillis again, so they must think Hardesty is gonna be at least functional.

Agree. Cheap insurance that they think will be around awhile and covering all bases.

JCoz wrote:Well, there was the the first puke in my mouth pick. What the fuck, over?

Me too sir. Don't like it at all. Maybe 2nd 4th rounder but not there. Prolly coulda had him in 5th as well.

To me, this smacks of the decision to move up in the first to get Phil Taylor before the Iggles could grab him 2 picks later. Here, it was Tampa laying in the weeds looking for the best available TE to backup the Evel Knieval of the NFL, Winslow II, Jordan Cameron, er, Cameron Jordan, er, whatever. Heckert must have thought Tampa had their sights set on him at that spot.

JCoz wrote:Well, there was the the first puke in my mouth pick. What the fuck, over?

Me too sir. Don't like it at all. Maybe 2nd 4th rounder but not there. Prolly coulda had him in 5th as well.

To me, this smacks of the decision to move up in the first to get Phil Taylor before the Iggles could grab him 2 picks later. Here, it was Tampa laying in the weeds looking for the best available TE to backup the Evel Knieval of the NFL, Winslow II, Jordan Cameron, er, Cameron Jordan, er, whatever. Heckert must have thought Tampa had their sights set on him at that spot.

Could very well be.

If they like him that much I sure hope they're right. Personally I'd have gone and let someone have him and gotten my TE next year. They know far more than I do though.

In the fourth game of the season against Notre Dame, Marecic scored a touchdown as a fullback, and then 13 seconds later, returned an interception for a touchdown, becoming the first player to score an offensive and defensive touchdown in the same game since Eric Weddle in 2006

I see it this way: Hillis, Hardesty, Marecic, Cameron, Little, whatever sorts out from the current gaggle at WR. If it all pans out in a couple years, that's a nice set of WCO options for Colt and Paddy.

The defense? Fujita, Roth, and whoever can hold the fort 'til next year, easier so with Rubin, Uncle Phil, and Billy Shears up front.

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