As far as I know there hasn't been a new update for PS3 yet (unless there's one today for new DLC ). I got one a few days ago on my third try, thought it would take more. It's lvl 29 with 1500 cap, 1800 charge, a 5.8 sec delay, and 4000 amp dmg. My main issue is the low cap. If they want to nerf the charge and damage then they should up the cap a bit.

As far as I know there hasn't been a new update for PS3 yet (unless there's one today for new DLC ). I got one a few days ago on my third try, thought it would take more. It's lvl 29 with 1500 cap, 1800 charge, a 5.8 sec delay, and 4000 amp dmg. My main issue is the low cap. If they want to nerf the charge and damage then they should up the cap a bit.

Yeah I really REALLY don't get why people wanted this nerfed.... It's not like someone using it in their game ruins your experience. If you don't like it don't use it. To me it just seems like another example of gamers getting uppity because someone isn't "Playing right" When the thing functioned EXACTLY like it was supposed to.

As another player, you probably wouldn't have as much as a reason to care about if everyone else is using the most OP combo in the game. Except for maybe feeling left out for not having it.

But do you think the developers of the game wanted the player to be able to turn everything into flesh piles in the blink of an eye just by using a shield + shotgun combo? Or be able to rip through the game's hardest bosses without breaking a sweat. When people develop games, they generally want to challenge people as well. And sometimes that means taking away peoples' "Easy Win" button. Sometimes it really isn't ALL about what the player wants...lol. And how could people not expect this anyway? The game has only been out for two months. These things will happen. There will always be OP shit in the beginning of the game's life cycle that were not accounted for and then subsequently have to be nerfed. So when you say "functions EXACTLY as its supposed to, I chuckle. I doubt develops wanted this.

As another player, I could care less. I'm gonna do my own thing regardless. But if I were involved in making the game, I'd probably feel a lot differently about it.

Actually, I think you are completely wrong. It has EVERYTHING to do with what the player wants. That is the point. They are the consumer, and from what I have seen on the Bee/Conference call combo... It's a pretty even call between elitists who think they should be able to dictate how other players play "right" and those who feel like it is their $60 (and more for dlcs) they should be able to enjoy their way. There is not competitve edge so no real harm. I think the single biggest issue that adds a ton of credability is the simple reality that Gearbox can not be so presumptuous as to think they can make "legitimately hard farming" a way of life for people. Borderlands 2 will not become a way of life, in fact I may no longer support the franchise over the nerfing. For me and my wife who got in late on the Borderlands 1 we were amazed. We bought the Game of the Year edition for like $39.99 and it came with so much stuff. We beat it all, legitimately because we are not n00b gamers... But at the end of the day, boy that Crawmerax just kept giving us fits. I actually figured out the "glitch" accidentally with my siren. We exploited it farming away for cool new weapon combinations that seemed endless. We'd farm crawmerax a few times then head over to Knoxx, fighting tooth and nail, then use the glitch (i did read about that one) in the floor to scope out all the cool stuff in the armory. Sometimes we'd head over to the Claptrap level (don't recall the name) and open up the basement cases too. It was fun. If it wasn't for that thrill of finding cool new stuff... then picking a level and testing it out, the game would not have had as much replayability for us.

Now with BL2 we took like a week long vacation and beat playthrough 1, then moved on to playthrough 2. Insanely hard, but fun. We felt accomplished when we got to the end... Terramorphous. Gearbox says (you need four people)... the two of us COULD have killed him if it wasn't for in that final health stretch he'd do the blackhole thing. Annoying. Frustrating. It wasn't skill at that point that was lacking... it was devlopment for single player/or local co-op players that was lacking. It was designed for someone/something else. Until of course we farmed FOREVER to get the Bee and Conference call... then back to what we thought was fun the last time... farming.

I'm sorry Randy but Borderlands isn't a way of life. It is a video game. Without new content it will get boring, and be playing elitist nerfing and desiging around required 4player coop. You just lost 1 sucker who has already turned in about $140 to this franchise alone...and a preorder stat. Between these stunts, RE6's strange awkward controls, and Halo's ridiculous short length... I'm losing faith to continue being one of the assholes that still spends $59.99 for a new game at launch. Seems like they always do the opposite of cool... Hoping Black Ops II doesn't screw the pooch too

It's not that I don't see your point of view, it's just that I don't see the point in getting butthurt over a nerf to one item in the game. If it's not a way of life, then getting worked up over a principle (which is asinine because of the context) is silly. From a consumer point of view, I'd agree with your first statement. Thinking outside of that view and the fact that there are still unhappy people because of the the Bee + CC being "Hella OP" makes me see both views. It's neither right or wrong from either side. It's just stances on a really innocuous issue. And in the end, it's not the consumer who actually has the power to directly change the content of the game; it's the developers.

I downloaded an update when I loaded the game up.... I have the xbox version.

It might just have been a DLC compatibility patch though. Since there will be weapons and such in that DLC that people without the DLC will need to be able to see, among other things in the background I imagine.

No, they made us download that like dlc..... It had it's own seperate download from the game in menu.

My Bee on my lvl 50 seems exactly the same, but being curious, i went and got a Bee on my Gunzerker(only took 3 kills) It was only like lvl 30, and it had Amp Damage within the 3000s, and a 4 seconds delay....not sure if that is normal

My Bee on my lvl 50 seems exactly the same, but being curious, i went and got a Bee on my Gunzerker(only took 3 kills) It was only like lvl 30, and it had Amp Damage within the 3000s, and a 4 seconds delay....not sure if that is normal

The 4000 is crap i think, but the 4 seconds delay is pretty damned good.