not gonna bump it seeing as how you have suggested what blizz has done wrong all these times. Instead of changing a couple things and seeing how it plays out you suggest changing 6 things instantly. bm doesnt break hunter out and also doesnt reset on readiness i agree with one sure but not both.

also they coudlve had no dr's and just made freeze trap 6 seconds and keep it on dr with sap poly etcetera.

your post looks like what they did with the warrior class give them everything and they are over the top then make them terrible instead of tweaking one or two things

not gonna bump it seeing as how you have suggested what blizz has done wrong all these times. Instead of changing a couple things and seeing how it plays out you suggest changing 6 things instantly. bm doesnt break hunter out and also doesnt reset on readiness i agree with one sure but not both.

also they coudlve had no dr's and just made freeze trap 6 seconds and keep it on dr with sap poly etcetera.

your post looks like what they did with the warrior class give them everything and they are over the top then make them terrible instead of tweaking one or two things

I could certainly agree with that so I ammended the steps to do one or the other. I don't see why you have to boycott or refuse to participate in my post. Seems like a poor attitude and helps nothing. It helps more if the hunter community can actively discuss and agree on things to suggest to Holinka as he seems to be more open to suggestion than any other developer in PvP history.

I could certainly agree with that so I ammended the steps to do one or the other. I don't see why you have to boycott or refuse to participate in my post. Seems like a poor attitude and helps nothing. It helps more if the hunter community can actively discuss and agree on things to suggest to Holinka as he seems to be more open to suggestion than any other developer in PvP history.

i play and enjoy bm not gonna bump a thread that would hurt my spec or class even if it's what the game needs to be more balanced

i like that your aiming for balance, im going to remain selfish srry m8!

dont want to point ppl out but i know for a fact theres some beastcleave champions trying to fit in with the marksman hipsters.. I'm not saying its everyone its just funny when youve been on this site for a while and you know what ppl ran to get what titles and achievements they have

alright, i get you

frigidclam, on 29 April 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

I also don't understand all these tough guy MM hunters who thinks pressing chimera shot instead of kill command makes them "super skilled" and bm is "mongolid". I think most of you play MM do so just to have a reason to cry if you can't get high rantings.

hunters in general are a lot more mongoloid than they were in cata, and i didn't say MM is a super skilled spec. have you ever played a hunter? i don't think you'd be so confused as to why most hunters prefer MM to BM if you did.

i play and enjoy bm not gonna bump a thread that would hurt my spec or class even if it's what the game needs to be more balanced

i like that your aiming for balance, im going to remain selfish srry m8!

haha very understandable. I do thank you for the feedback though as already a lot of people in the thread feel the same way.

Will continue changing things in the OP. I feel like if a large percentage of hunters come forth with some changes and can collectively agree on it, that Holinka will likely be swayed from his current course of action.

not gonna bump it seeing as how you have suggested what blizz has done wrong all these times. Instead of changing a couple things and seeing how it plays out you suggest changing 6 things instantly. bm doesnt break hunter out and also doesnt reset on readiness i agree with one sure but not both.

also they coudlve had no dr's and just made freeze trap 6 seconds and keep it on dr with sap poly etcetera.

your post looks like what they did with the warrior class give them everything and they are over the top then make them terrible instead of tweaking one or two things

BM is really really good i just dont get why you would change it up outside of you're bored and want to just mess around and have fun.

it would be like a mage playing arcane over fire or frost because its just fun and you want to do something different

Play to win - does not matter what others think if it works then do it.

By this logic, never play anything that's fun unless you always win doing it. Have you ever thought that maybe playing marks is a lot more fun and rewarding to play than BM? OH YOU LIKE PLAYING SHAMAN BUT YOU ONLY PLAY TO WIN... BETTER PLAY RESTO.

Hunter is the best partner for any melee class.(maybe with the debatable exception of RPS)
It is the best dps choice for any priest / paladin healer comp.
Overall hunter is one of the most broken dps classes, if not the most broken.
Why do people still qq about MM not being good or nerfs hurting MM? WTF is that?
I mean is playing BM a huge different like most classes being forced to play melee instead of caster or DPS instead of healer to be viable in arena? Because that's what happened to most hybrid classes through expansions. People had to swap between healer and dps to continue playing their toon in arena. I don't know how you guys define playstyle but it should not be too painful to have extrra trinkets, amazing damage and better cc. Do people really need this stuff pointed out, don't you guys already know?
I am not sure if hunter community is full of retards or they are just brilliant at avoiding nerfs with their unending qq about irrelevant second spec.

Hunter is the best partner for any melee class.(maybe with the debatable exception of RPS)
It is the best dps choice for any priest / paladin healer comp.
Overall hunter is one of the most broken dps classes, if not the most broken.
Why do people still qq about MM not being good or nerfs hurting MM? WTF is that?
I mean is playing BM a huge different like most classes being forced to play melee instead of caster or DPS instead of healer to be viable in arena? Because that's what happened to most hybrid classes through expansions. People had to swap between healer and dps to continue playing their toon in arena. I don't know how you guys define playstyle but it should not be too painful to have extrra trinkets, amazing damage and better cc. Do people really need this stuff pointed out, don't you guys already know?
I am not sure if hunter community is full of retards or they are just brilliant at avoiding nerfs with their unending qq about irrelevant second spec.

It hurts MM more because you have to wait a minute before you can get a full trap rather than ~30 seconds (which is the CD of trap)

~As for you bringing up how you have no clue why hunters complain about being BM. Nobody likes having to rely on their pet to get their damage out. Yes it's nice being able to keep damage out while being pillared but the second your pet is rooted or cc'd in any way and you have no outs for your pet there goes all of your damage and now your cc will be gone as well. I can only speak for myself but I would much rather prefer all of my damage and cc coming from me, not my pet. Nobody should have to be gimped by not only from being cc'd themselves but also having to worry about their pet as well making BM much more annoying to play than MM at times.