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Q: what do you folks think of Tim Hodgkinson's solo output? I'm still absorbing "Each In Our Own Thoughts" have had "Shams" w. Ken Hyder (saw the concert) which I spin rarely but somewhat enjoy and I've also heard some of his improvisational group avant group Konk Pack which I like. Any recommendations? I'd probably be more interested in hearing more of his compositional chops along the lines of "Living In The Heart Of The Beast" etc.

I got "Each In Out Own Thoughts" only few months ago and haven't had time hear it much yet but it seems to be very strong material. As album it is maybe little bit uneven as there is different ensembles playing and even that midi-orchestrated piece.

what do you folks think of Tim Hodgkinson's solo output? I'm still absorbing "Each In Our Own Thoughts" […] I'd probably be more interested in hearing more of his compositional chops along the lines of "Living In The Heart Of The Beast" etc.

Each In Our Own Thoughts contains the closest ever to a HC reunion (save for Frith and Greaves) in "Hold to the Zero Burn, Imagine" (aka. "Erk Gah"). The rest of the album is stupendous as well, and I especially enjoy the string quartet and that electronic piece which ends it. But outside of his work with The Work (hee-hee!), Tim H. hasn't revisited rock territory.

Pragma is hard-laden contemporary composition, beyond abstract or "atonal". It's still listenable, though - and the ensemble pieces in partiular. Sang is more of that, perhaps even quirkier. Of his improvisational work, Splutter (from '85) features some pretty bizarre bass clarinet honking, one of them apparently performed with a nose- rather than mouthpiece. It differs from Kenny G.

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"[...] things that we never dreamed of doing in Crimson or in any band that I've been in," - Tony Levin speaking of SGM

Each In Our Own Thoughts contains the closest ever to a HC reunion (save for Frith and Greaves) in "Hold to the Zero Burn, Imagine" (aka. "Erk Gah"). The rest of the album is stupendous as well, and I especially enjoy the string quartet and that electronic piece which ends it. But outside of his work with The Work (hee-hee!), Tim H. hasn't revisited rock territory.

Pragma is hard-laden contemporary composition, beyond abstract or "atonal". It's still listenable, though - and the ensemble pieces in partiular. Sang is more of that, perhaps even quirkier. Of his improvisational work, Splutter (from '85) features some pretty bizarre bass clarinet honking, one of them apparently performed with a nose- rather than mouthpiece. It differs from Kenny G.

In that case I'll check it out thanks. I agree regarding Each In Our Own Thoughts, I actually sought it out based on the provenance, it seems a demanding and dense work and I definitely need more focused listening time. I don't think I get it yet afer a casual listen. Tim is definitely the "anti-Kenny G".

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Cool. I agree that Eat and Punch by Charming Hostess are killer albums, and "essential" for the Carla K./SGM/Idiot Flesh fan.

There are two 2 Foot Yard albums. Carla's album with that title on Tzadik and an album titled Borrowed Arms under the band name 2 Foot Yard. Get 'em both!

If you dig Charming Hostess, I also recommend The Bowls Project. Mostly doesn't include the SGM members on the other records, but it's quite good and has Marika Hughes Shazad Ismaily from 2 Foot Yard on it, so there is some continuity.

The acapella trio Charming Hostess record is good, and I saw that trio live, but I prefer the "band" albums.

And, Carla's tune Tugboat on the first Book Of Knots album is stooooooooooopid good.

Cool. I agree that Eat and Punch by Charming Hostess are killer albums, and "essential" for the Carla K./SGM/Idiot Flesh fan.

There are two 2 Foot Yard albums. Carla's album with that title on Tzadik and an album titled Borrowed Arms under the band name 2 Foot Yard. Get 'em both!

If you dig Charming Hostess, I also recommend The Bowls Project. Mostly doesn't include the SGM members on the other records, but it's quite good and has Marika Hughes Shazad Ismaily from 2 Foot Yard on it, so there is some continuity.

The acapella trio Charming Hostess record is good, and I saw that trio live, but I prefer the "band" albums.

And, Carla's tune Tugboat on the first Book Of Knots album is stooooooooooopid good.

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I'd second the praise for the second 2 Foot Yard album in particular, but also the three Rabbit Rabbit Radio albums (now available on CD quite recently) and a must buy is Jeremy Flower's 'The Real Me' a fabulous album which features Carla Kihlstedt and Matthias Bossi on every track, so it sounds like a Rabbit Rabbit Radio album but with added orchestrations by Jeremy, who is a considerable composer. If you don't mind slightly dissonant brass (think of the brass arangements in 'Atom Heart Mother' ) then you'll love this. Probably my favourite album of all time (and I've been buying albums for 50 years now). https://jeremyflower.bandcamp.com/album/the-real-me

I'd second the praise for the second 2 Foot Yard album in particular, but also the three Rabbit Rabbit Radio albums (now available on CD quite recently) and a must buy is Jeremy Flower's 'The Real Me' a fabulous album which features Carla Kihlstedt and Matthias Bossi on every track, so it sounds like a Rabbit Rabbit Radio album but with added orchestrations by Jeremy, who is a considerable composer. If you don't mind slightly dissonant brass (think of the brass arangements in 'Atom Heart Mother' ) then you'll love this. Probably my favourite album of all time (and I've been buying albums for 50 years now). https://jeremyflower.bandcamp.com/album/the-real-me

I agree that the Jeremy Flower album is outstanding. Rabbit Rabbit Radio I have yet to explore but thanks for the tip on the CDs. Physical media remain my preference, Luddite that I am.

I'd second the praise for the second 2 Foot Yard album in particular, but also the three Rabbit Rabbit Radio albums (now available on CD quite recently) and a must buy is Jeremy Flower's 'The Real Me' a fabulous album which features Carla Kihlstedt and Matthias Bossi on every track, so it sounds like a Rabbit Rabbit Radio album but with added orchestrations by Jeremy, who is a considerable composer. If you don't mind slightly dissonant brass (think of the brass arangements in 'Atom Heart Mother' ) then you'll love this. Probably my favourite album of all time (and I've been buying albums for 50 years now). https://jeremyflower.bandcamp.com/album/the-real-me

That Jeremy Flowers is excellent.

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Art Zoyd is the only 'classic RIO-band' that i failed to get into. Somehow it does not make my blood rush any faster. I know I should try harder but there is just so much stuff out there that I do like that I lack the motivation.

Thats your mistake, its not supposed to rush faster on AZ, it is supposed to give you the chills and freeze on its tracks!

I'd second the praise for the second 2 Foot Yard album in particular, but also the three Rabbit Rabbit Radio albums (now available on CD quite recently) and a must buy is Jeremy Flower's 'The Real Me' a fabulous album which features Carla Kihlstedt and Matthias Bossi on every track, so it sounds like a Rabbit Rabbit Radio album but with added orchestrations by Jeremy, who is a considerable composer. If you don't mind slightly dissonant brass (think of the brass arangements in 'Atom Heart Mother' ) then you'll love this. Probably my favourite album of all time (and I've been buying albums for 50 years now). https://jeremyflower.bandcamp.com/album/the-real-me

Well, out of my “avant-radar” both Rabbit Rabbit Radio and Jeremy Flower:
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