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As narrated by the most charming and vicious women on the internetSun, 12 Jul 2015 20:00:14 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.8.9By: Tweets that mention I Want YOU to Read This Post - The Pursuit of Harpyness -- Topsy.comhttp://www.harpyness.com/2010/09/23/17088/comment-page-1/#comment-34152
Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:56:34 +0000http://www.harpyness.com/?p=17088#comment-34152[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by D Drapeau and Pursuit of Harpyness, Vyckie D. Garrison. Vyckie D. Garrison said: @TPoHarpyness: I Want YOU to Read This Post: I saw this image over at Salon, in a short piece by A… http://bit.ly/daIQYm #feminist #women [...]
]]>By: rainydayhttp://www.harpyness.com/2010/09/23/17088/comment-page-1/#comment-34145
Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:11:16 +0000http://www.harpyness.com/?p=17088#comment-34145This poster, really, is for the liberals. It’s a way of patting ourselves on the back and of seeing that someone else out there is just as frustrated as we are. It’s not going to convince the other side, but what poster ever does?
]]>By: Mackeyhttp://www.harpyness.com/2010/09/23/17088/comment-page-1/#comment-34122
Fri, 24 Sep 2010 01:32:09 +0000http://www.harpyness.com/?p=17088#comment-34122I realise the discussion is directed more at the American readers, but there is an element where Otherness is seen as a negative element here in Australia, especially when that “Otherness” is named “Boat People”.

There is so much factual information on the Australian intake for asylum seekers and refugees (which by international standards is paltry!), but it hasn’t had much of an impact in breaking the impasse of illogicality and irrational thoughts that exist.

On the national broadcaster, the ABC, there’s a show called the Gruen Transfer which looks at the advertising industry. There’s a segment called “The Pitch” where advertising firms compete to make an unpalatable issue or thing, palatable. Here’s “The Pitch” on asylum seekers and refugees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yitHGZDN71g

There’s also an article I read (it’s by a friend, in the interests of full declaration) who has written how rational thought and logic hasn’t worked, and that maybe appealing to morality, a sense of fairness and emotion: http://onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=10897

I think that this is what that pic is trying to do – because logic and rational thinking isn’t working, maybe an appeal to emotion and patriotism may work?

]]>By: Michellehttp://www.harpyness.com/2010/09/23/17088/comment-page-1/#comment-34117
Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:55:57 +0000http://www.harpyness.com/?p=17088#comment-34117I guess the issue is that the poster doesn’t do much by way of sparking conversation, does it? It sort of just shuts everyone down, from the get-go. Sort of the “Well, now you’ve said it. Let’s have a taco” approach to conversation.
]]>By: PhDorkhttp://www.harpyness.com/2010/09/23/17088/comment-page-1/#comment-34115
Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:57:08 +0000http://www.harpyness.com/?p=17088#comment-34115Endora: exactly. The Americans = Fearless!!! thing is part of the problem, because it provides an excuse to hate on or discriminate against non-(US)Americans, or those like MM or myself who do NOT identify first as the member of a nation.
]]>By: Endorahttp://www.harpyness.com/2010/09/23/17088/comment-page-1/#comment-34114
Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:33:10 +0000http://www.harpyness.com/?p=17088#comment-34114PS it also feeds into a macho culture that makes it unacceptable to feel fear instead of acknowledging that fear is a part of life and something to be worked through like everything else.
]]>By: Endorahttp://www.harpyness.com/2010/09/23/17088/comment-page-1/#comment-34113
Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:32:34 +0000http://www.harpyness.com/?p=17088#comment-34113I liked it until the second bit in red. That ruined it for me – as if Americans have the monopoly on courage!
]]>By: Imogen Questhttp://www.harpyness.com/2010/09/23/17088/comment-page-1/#comment-34108
Thu, 23 Sep 2010 15:18:14 +0000http://www.harpyness.com/?p=17088#comment-34108I’m of the opinion that if it’s not actively harmful to the ideas it’s trying to promote, then it might as well be out there. If it makes even one person think, it’s worth it.
I feel this way about the honey vs. vinegar debate on all sorts of -isms: there’s a place for conciliation and there’s a place for passion. Neither one will work in all situations or on all people, and it’s necessary to have both styles in any movement.
]]>By: rodriguezhttp://www.harpyness.com/2010/09/23/17088/comment-page-1/#comment-34106
Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:44:43 +0000http://www.harpyness.com/?p=17088#comment-34106I dunno, maybe it’s worthwhile to make an attempt to reach some of these people. Some days I think, if it didn’t get into their head by logic, then it can’t come out that way either.

But other days I think that’s wrong, logic IS the way.

And I am sure that even if the bonehead doesn’t get it, that other person standing next to them, the quiet one not shouting, that bystander WILL get it.

]]>By: mischiefmanagerhttp://www.harpyness.com/2010/09/23/17088/comment-page-1/#comment-34105
Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:26:17 +0000http://www.harpyness.com/?p=17088#comment-34105I agre with rodriguez. I don’t think I’m an American first. My femaleness and my Judaism are at least as fundamental to making me the person I am as my nationality.

The thing is, you simply cannot shame, explain, reason, or argue these lunatics out of their warpeed, bigoted, self-serving beliefs. Listening to others is precisely what they don’t want to do. I have no idea on earth how to break through to them. It’s terrifying.