StanleyPain - 2018-08-21 From the dedication of the statue in 1913:
"It is true that the snows of winter which never melt, crown our temples, and we realize that we are living in the twilight zone; that it requires no unusual strain to hear the sounds of the tides as they roll and break upon the other shore, “The watch-dog’s bark his deep bay mouth welcome as we draw near home”, breaks upon our ears—makes it doubly sweet to know that we have been remembered in the erection of this beautiful memorial. The present generation, I am persuaded, scarcely takes note of what the Confederate soldier meant to the welfare of the Anglo Saxon race during the four years immediately succeeding the war, when the facts are, that their courage and steadfastness saved the very life of the Anglo Saxon race in the South – When “the bottom rail was on top” all over the Southern states, and to-day, as a consequence the purest strain of the Anglo Saxon is to be found in the 13 Southern States – Praise God.
I trust I may be pardoned for one allusion, howbeit it is rather personal. One hundred yards from where we stand, less than ninety days perhaps after my return from Appomattox, I horse-whipped a negro wench until her skirts hung in shreds, because upon the streets of this quiet village she had publicly insulted and maligned a Southern lady, and then rushed for protection to these University buildings where was stationed a garrison of 100 Federal soldiers. I performed the pleasing duty in the immediate presence of the entire garrison, and for thirty nights afterwards slept with a double-barrel shot gun under my head."

exy - 2018-08-21 Sounds like he was more of a Runnin' Off the Mouth Sam

betabox - 2018-08-21 Oh sure. One short, out of context quote and YOU want us to believe that the white supremacist who took pride in whipping a negress for speaking uncivilly to a white woman is somehow the bad guy in the story.

Anaxagoras - 2018-08-21 The video contains a graphic depiction of some feelings getting mortally wounded. Some white feelings. Those are the most delicate kind of feelings.

Gmork - 2018-08-22 Oh god, so instead of being in the wrong by being a racist convservative cunt, you're deciding to be in the wrong by using that "it's okay to be a racist cunt to people if they're of a specific race" mentality.

Gmork - 2018-08-22 Saw an article about people wanting an option besides democrat and republican (hahah, no, independent is not an option, we're talking a REAL party) and bullshit like this just makes me want it all the more. Bigots on both sides.

cognitivedissonance - 2018-08-22 One thing about a lot of these statues is that the figure is identical all over the place, the Daughters of the American Revolution/Confederacy just slapped whatever local hero they had underneath and that was that. Just have the plinth freighted in from Sears-Roebuck, have a ribbon cutting, done. There's a bizarre one of George Armstrong Custer in Olympia, which is baffling because he never came anywhere near the place. There weren't any slaves to intimidate so they just decided to intimidate the natives, which is strange because Custer lost, notably.

StanleyPain - 2018-08-22 The "silent" statues were also made as an explicit threat of violence against basically anyone who was black or wasn't confederacy; a kind of high concept "Git off MAH LAND" thing meant to specifically intimidate people, not even remotely attached to 'history' or whatever its defenders want to say. This statue in particular is really problematic for people using the "it's history" excuse since it has no actual links to legitimate historical anything...the man isn't even based on anyone historical.

Quad9Damage - 2018-08-22 Fighting hate with more hate is fighting fire with fire.

You don't alter history by tearing it down and screaming at it.

A lot of these men died horribly, face down and bleeding in the dirt. A lot of them were drafted into that shit war.

A lot of them were your ancestors.

We are raising our kids to be perpetually offended, reactionary, entitled little shits. Years from now this will still be on the Internet as a monument to their legacy.

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Gmork - 2018-08-22 What a great speech defending a racist monument that specifically endorses beating a black person without recourse.

Fuck off. People died for the wrong cause, that's on them. Not to mention someone being your ancestor shouldn't automatically make you give a shit about what happened to them. A lot of everyone's ancestors are irredeemable cunts. Hell, my immediate family have a bunch of irredeemable cunts among them. Imagine how much shittier your family was back then.

Crab Mentality - 2018-08-22 Always the talk of "erasing history", yet the people who want those statues to stay standing never seem to give a shit about actual historical accuracy of anything they're supposed to be commemorating anyway.

Oh, and the obvious fact that because something happened, doesn't mean we have to celebrate it, which is why there aren't statues dedicated to the Spanish Flu. But go on, keep telling us why we need a statue celebrating a sadist who was super into eugenics.