Yes, I've been noticing the same thing with the routing changes. It seems that COX has turned off some direct peering up in LA, and are going through their own peering link.

I'm thinking CA is taking so long simply because of the lack of 10G backhaul available in the OC area to their CO. Fiber isn't exactly prominent in the OC area..

COX already has 100G to LA but that doesn't do much when certain peering fabrics they use are already quite saturated at peak times.. I see plenty of routes now traversing SJ/Palo Alto instead of going through LA for optimal routing which kills about 6-8MS. I'm guessing this is because COX allocates 160G to Arizona from LA and the upgrades there are causing some load on the most likely 1G peering fabrics.

TL;DR, give it some time, the upgrade will get here once they beef up the network to sustain load and fibers are laid.

I've noticed this as well, it's completely destroyed routes to a lot of my colo in LA, 85ms pings to LA now..yay! Cox and savvis are only peering in Dallas so if you're taking savvis to your destination good luck with that. What an absolute joke. Also for the lack of fiber in the OC area, i'm not so sure of that. Level3/globalcrossing have a very large presence in Anaheim (I had cage space in the same facility not long ago) and they have the capacity to pull in 100G if you like.

Cox has historically been completely incompetent with managing their network in the OC area, months of extreme loss between cox and level3 in LA were common not long ago. I ran complaints up the flag pole as high as possible and it was obvious they just did not care. It was so bad I was looking into San Diego colo to route all of my own home traffic that direction as anything passing through LA was just getting destroyed.

Yeah, thanks for the suggestions. I'm very familiar with colo in the OC area and have toured both latisys facilities. Unless they've changed very recently latisys is not carrier neutral (I have bandwidth commits I need to bring in) which sunk the deal among other things, and alchemy was just...hilarious.

You would think cox would always have great routing to level3 because they utilize them for most of their transit/transport (unless that has changed very recently too), but nope. The colo options in OC area are pretty disappointing in general, they mostly cater to local corporations that are completely ignorant of colo pricing nationally.

COX used to have great routing to and from Level3, but with the recent migration of some routes to SJC, and I believe they are finally doing hot potato in Dallas.. it's not that great.

Level 3 in general has always been iffy on certain eyeball routes though.., not as bad as cogent to UUNET/Verizon though

Latisys has a few onnet carriers and the rest are back hauled. However their internal capacity is quite baffling, only 16gbit for their operation? Hell I have 40G+ of aggregate just for a small suite. Pretty sure you can crossconnect to your own choice of carriers, I've inquired about it last time, but ended up going with a facility up in LA.

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Ok, seriously off topic here, with that said.. Just noticed some downtime last night with our net, still bonding the same signals, but I figure we're still inline for Late sept / october release of the new packages, since COX business is already showing they are offering 150mbps cable packages... Although I don't know the pricing.

I called cox out of curiosity to see how much the 150Mbit business plan was and they had no idea what i was talking about. The website says 150Mbps right under business internet though.. »ww2.cox.com/business/orangecount ··· rnet.cox

Having just upgraded my COX Business Home Office internet here in OC, I can say the highest speed listed on the rate sheet was 50/5. Reading the article below, looks like both Rez and Bus got the upgrade at the same time. Fingers crossed.

Was just bugging a friend of mine about this, according to him the speed up upgrades are coming to CA in October and November. Something about the schedule for completing CMTS hardware upgrades to support the speeds is making it stretch out over 30 days for the state.

Well.. I'm guessing the guy at the Cox Retail store said October because, how many of us would be pissed as hell if they were going to increase our rates w/o giving us any sort of... (i cant think of the word)...

So yeah, only one thing is for certain, is that our rates will increase by $6 come october. That way cox can at last say the $6 increase is partially do to the upgrades.. or something.

Every unofficial "estimate" someone hears from a Cox employee seems to be random and never matches what someone else says they heard. I thought these upgrades were just around the corner....way back in March!

Anyway, I might as well throw in the two cents I just got - the Cox rep just told me on the phone that the San Diego and OC upgrades are hitting "mid-October". Interestingly, this came with some supposed bad news that the SoCal area is only going up to 100Mbps instead of 150Mbps for the Ultimate tier. All the tiers are a bit lower speeds than those found in the other upgraded markets. They said the infrastructure is older here. This all sounds like BS to me, but that's what they said.

Yes, we are treated like fungi - kept in the dark and fed a bunch of BS.

Like I said before, I do believe in the October launch for the upgrades.. why? Because they are increasing the rates on our internet service. So, to make the rate increase easier to swallow, they are going to justify it by saying they are upgrading their stuff to keep up with current technology blah blah.

Speed upgrades are coming soon - They will roll through CA from mid October through mid November depending on where in CA you are.

Sorry for no specific dates, but there are still hardware/software upgrades to be completed on the CMTS side, and the actual changes to update the cable modems take multiple nights to complete (we can only do x many per night).

Things do slide around a bit, and we don't like to promise a specific date that may move.

I can't comment quite yet on the specific speeds CA will be getting, but I'm sure you all are very familiar with looking at other regions and making educated guesses based on that. I'll post the official speeds as soon as I can.