And if indexed, the cap is much higher in 2050. It will be flatly impossible for a non very welathy individual to even get close.

I'm not offering it as an argument against, rather as a requirement.

Remember, the specific intent is to prevent people with the means and willingness to create any sort of legal entity required to utilize the loophole you want to close. That means capping every type of account that is tax-advantaged. You probably have to add whole life policies in there, too.

so strangely fucking quiet during the marathon bombings threads, but oh my god he was taken next to a picture of a Democrat bumper sticker let's earn points for my team my team MY TEAAAAAAAM

I wasn't aware that the person or persons allegedly responsible for the Boston bombing had been identified (outside of the universe certain CNN people occupy). I try, if possible, to avoid speculation about "what evil group" in which unknown people participate. We'll find out those details later. Hate and evil are equal opportunity, though. It's a bit annoying for some Democrats to insist that none can come from their side too.

(And, click the photo for a link to the news article. You can also visit his facebook page and look through his photos at your leisure.)

so strangely fucking quiet during the marathon bombings threads, but oh my god he was taken next to a picture of a Democrat bumper sticker let's earn points for my team my team MY TEAAAAAAAM

I wasn't aware that the person or persons allegedly responsible for the Boston bombing had been identified (outside of the universe certain CNN people occupy). I try, if possible, to avoid speculation about "what evil group" in which unknown people participate. We'll find out those details later. Hate and evil are equal opportunity, though. It's a bit annoying for some Democrats to insist that none can come from their side too.

(And, click the photo for a link to the news article. You can also visit his facebook page and look through his photos at your leisure.)

The ricin guy does not believe in the legitamacy of Obama's presidency. As others have pointed out, he seems to have attacked both parties. The democrat sticker was him poking fun of the message apparently. He's a bit of a loon and apparently not very smart either.

Unfortunately, the "bit of a loon" crowd makes up the vast majority of people who write to politicians, based on my experience. It's almost to the point that I can't believe anyone controlling budgets wouldn't want to stick a bit more in the kitty for mental health.

Yep. It does. Unfortunately, the ACA is more harmful than helpful. Would have been nice if (like with the recent gun legislation) more time for considered debate and negotiation had taken place instead of pushing to pass what was essentially a draft.

It's a bit annoying for some Democrats to insist that none can come from their side too.

Too bad, yet again, your posts don't bear any resemblance to reality. You know what, dotorg? Tom Dunkerton couldn't think too well, but at least he wasn't aware that he was a points-scoring team-first robot. You don't even get that excuse.

However in a few years, the 2021 date you mentioned, it has to start drawing down the principal. Which, in effect, means that the general fund has to start making up for the shortfall.

How much does this bother you? It bothers me not one whit. Most of the important things we expect government to do do not involve trust funds. Where is the military trust fund?

You do realize that there is a trough on the other side of the boomers, right?

Yes, that's a great plan... Fuck over Gen X again, to the benefit of the Boomers. After all, you're already taking more out of their paychecks for everything else the Boomers want, so that the Millenials won't suffer.

It's a line that never should have been uttered. Political speakers must consider their words not just in context but also how they stand alone. The desire to get to reconciliation (which was a reasonable thing) shouldn't be communicated by implying that moving forward legislation was the only way that it would be better understood. For all the bellyaching about how terrible Fox's reporting was, the Democratic party has a reasonably good media machine. The inability to educate the public about the content of the ACA, the motivation behind the changes and the potential impact was truly a significant failure.

Similarly, President Obama's statement that "there's a piece of Boston in me" shouldn't have made it into his marathon bombing speech. Even though the idea he was trying to invoke was a good thing, the wording is insensitive when people are still having shrapnel plucked from their limbs. His speechwriters are usually far better than that. I'm actually rather shocked the phrase made it into final. That's the sort of phrase writers come up with and giggle about at three in the morning. Nobody leaves that sort of thing in.

Similarly, President Obama's statement that "there's a piece of Boston in me" shouldn't have made it into his marathon bombing speech. Even though the idea he was trying to invoke was a good thing, the wording is insensitive when people are still having shrapnel plucked from their limbs. His speechwriters are usually far better than that. I'm actually rather shocked the phrase made it into final. That's the sort of phrase writers come up with and giggle about at three in the morning. Nobody leaves that sort of thing in.

Oh, come on.

How much of a fucking Right Wing zombie do you have to be to think "shrapnel" when he said that phrase.

Is that the latest talking point? Do you pair that with the whole "teleprompter" thing, or do you keep them separate for the one-two punch?

It's a line that never should have been uttered. Political speakers must consider their words not just in context but also how they stand alone. The desire to get to reconciliation (which was a reasonable thing) shouldn't be communicated by implying that moving forward legislation was the only way that it would be better understood. For all the bellyaching about how terrible Fox's reporting was, the Democratic party has a reasonably good media machine. The inability to educate the public about the content of the ACA, the motivation behind the changes and the potential impact was truly a significant failure.

Similarly, President Obama's statement that "there's a piece of Boston in me" shouldn't have made it into his marathon bombing speech. Even though the idea he was trying to invoke was a good thing, the wording is insensitive when people are still having shrapnel plucked from their limbs. His speechwriters are usually far better than that. I'm actually rather shocked the phrase made it into final. That's the sort of phrase writers come up with and giggle about at three in the morning. Nobody leaves that sort of thing in.

I'm beginning to think that despite your claims to the contrary, you actually believe some of the bullshit that you spew forth around here.

Today's Beef: I suspect the media isn't going to do much follow-up on the Ricin story after this was found on the suspect's Facebook page.

Except that you, like every other disingenuous single fucking SRB member, refuses to acknowledge that the caption he included when he posted this to twitter entirely mocked the bumper sticker in a way that thoroughly identified him as a lunatic far right christian, so enjoy that crow/foot.

Sure it does. The general fund will be raided in 2021 unless we start drawing down benefits and increasing the contributions... which won't be the boomers, because they're the takers, it'll be the people after them making up the shortfall. the trough means less people to take from, increasing even more what's taken. Like everything else in my life, it's about the Boomers taking from me and assuaging their guilt by ensuring twenty-nothings get more than we did... probably still less than they took for themselves. They took three from me, kept two and gave the Millenials one. But I'm down three.

Today's Beef: I suspect the media isn't going to do much follow-up on the Ricin story after this was found on the suspect's Facebook page.

Except that you, like every other disingenuous single fucking SRB member, refuses to acknowledge that the caption he included when he posted this to twitter entirely mocked the bumper sticker in a way that thoroughly identified him as a lunatic far right christian, so enjoy that crow/foot.

Dotorg, you should be ashamed of yourself. You knew the caption when you posted that picture.

The linked source of the photo (Clarion Ledger) doesn't seem to have it, neither does Slate. They say: "The photo of him giving a thumbs up to a bumper sticker that reads "Christian and a Democrat" muddles things about his proud insistence that he didn't vote for Obama."

There's also this, which with how he signed off his ricin letters, is creepy as hell.

Yep. It does. Unfortunately, the ACA is more harmful than helpful. Would have been nice if (like with the recent gun legislation) more time for considered debate and negotiation had taken place instead of pushing to pass what was essentially a draft.