Very interesting... Interesting also for the age and condition it is in..
Must have been and adventure for those guys to hang with some Hmongs.. Anyone who saw the movie "Apocalypse Now." It was actually loosely based on a true story..
Hmongs, related to the Montenyards of Vietnam. Tribal people who helped our American Special Ops Troops in their fighting in Cambodia, Laos.. They probably helped the commies also, I guess, depending on the pay..
When American Troops left, they abondoned them to fight on their own.. Typical American fashion. Thanks for your help, see yah.. Good luck..
Lot of them settled in Wisconsin.. Why there, I do not know? If that Hmong only knew its value.. $$

"Man needs but two things to survive alone in the woods. A blow up female doll and his trusty old AK-47" - Thomas Jefferson 1781

I do my selector marking on a lot of my home builds like that Type 1. Just a basic straight divot. Some I do the slots.

Enforcement, NOT Amnesty!!!!!!

"If they’re going to come here illegally, apply for & receive assistance through a corrupted Government agency encouraging this lawless behavior, work under the table & send billions of dollars each year back to their families in Mexico, while bleeding local economies dry, protest in our streets waving their Mexican flags DEMANDING rights, while I have to press ’1′ for English, then they need to be shipped back to where they came from!" -Chad Miller

dont know why but they need to learn to respect our hunting laws an traditions . they had used bread bags stretched across tree branches making tree stands all over the public property an on a buddys private loand . a few years a ago one murdered a hunter wiht a SKS while trespassing because he was confronted on the owners property.

every ones got a right to hunt but I wont gove them any breaks they kill any thing that's brown even fawns .

Werent the hmongs the people portrayed in Gran Torino? And very cool article!

“The rifle itself has no moral stature, since it has no will of its own. Naturally, it may be used by evil men for evil purposes, but there are more good men than evil, and while the latter cannot be persuaded to the path of righteousness by propaganda, they can certainly be corrected by good men with rifles.”

jimraynor21

Originally Posted by jimraynor21

Werent the hmongs the people portrayed in Gran Torino? And very cool article!

The Hmong (RPA: Hmoob/Moob, IPA: [m̥ɔ̃ŋ]) are an Asian ethnic group from the mountainous regions of China, Vietnam, Laos, and Thailand. Hmong are also one of the sub-groups of the Miao ethnicity (苗族) in southern China. Hmong groups began a gradual southward migration in the 18th century due to political unrest and to find more arable land. Hmong people, who are known to be fiercely independent, are rich in their culture, art, religion, family life and martial history and are distinguished by costume/dress (fabric patterns represent fruit, vegetables, farming, chickens, eggs, etc.)[4]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hmong_people

During the first and second Indochina Wars, both France and the United States governments recruited thousands of Hmong people in Laos to help fight against invading military forces from North Vietnam as well as communist Pathet Lao insurgents, known as the secret war, during the Vietnam War and the Laotian Civil War. Hmong people were singled out for retribution by the Marxist Pathet Lao, and Vietnamese Army, when they took over the Laotian government in 1975, with the support of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (SRV), and the politburo officials in Hanoi as well as the communist governments of the former Soviet Union in Moscow, North Korea, Cuba and China. Hundreds of thousands of Hmong refugees fled to Thailand seeking political asylum. Thousands of these refugees have resettled in Western countries since the late 1970s, mostly the United States, but also in Australia, France, French Guiana, Canada, and South America. Others have returned to Laos under United Nations-sponsored repatriation programs.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hmong_people

jimraynor21. Geez sorry I never saw Gran Torino..
During our war years involvement in Vietnam, their were just as much going on in neighboring Cambodia and Laos.. MACV and SOG "Special Operations Grooup" Were heavily involved with intense behind the lines fighting there..
Who better than to get help from but the indigenous people who knew the A.O.. Sadly the Hmong and Montagnards were looked at as second class citizens, by the peoples of countries posted..
I was NOT any type of SOG.. But was around them all the time in the mountains. I found them to be courteous and respectful. In typical American fashion, we got them to work for us against their suppressors.. In typical American fashion, as we did with American Indians who helped us.. Thank you, see yah later bye.. Good luck..
Now as they helped us and the French, they are being double suppressed. SOG groups got together to petition our Govt. to help get them over here. Essentially thanking them for helping us..
Wisconsin, for some reason, seems to be the place they got them settled into.. Up there with bigguns A.O..
Long talks with my Uncle Marv from Wisconsin "USMC Korean War" found them to be, not so welcome there..
That he might explain better than I...
I have tons of pictures if I get off my ass I will post them for yall..

"Man needs but two things to survive alone in the woods. A blow up female doll and his trusty old AK-47" - Thomas Jefferson 1781

very cool. I remember reading about the type 1 a few years back but went away with the impression that they were essentially early prototypes and insanely rare, seems that assumption was false as at least two made the long trek to southeast Asia to be used as real fighting weapons.