Another example... just today they finally released a "miscut" version of the 60/30's, and the color of olive isn't even the same. It looks completely washed out (would be great for a M*A*S*H Halloween costume) and now I've sat here waiting on them for 3 months, probably 4 or 5 by the time they get them in cut correctly and they never bothered to mention in their correspondence that the color wouldn't be the same. So frustrating.

I think they said the correct cut 60/30 would be available in 2 weeks (maybe because they are taking the week off next week?).

I bought a pair of "looses" to try them out since I was always eying the keirin cut pants.

The NYCOs are 50% nylon / 50% cotton - no stretch, but fabric will break-in. 60/30s have 4 way stretch and are stain and water resistant. From the site "Schoeller twill with NanoSphere® treatment".

I see it as: 60/30s are technical pants. NYCOs are just really tough pants. I have a pair of 60/30s coming and have been wanting to try the NYCOs for awhile. I kept putting off buying until I'd be in NYC so I could try them on, but haven't had the time to get up there.

If these were pants from an actual fashion label would you be complaining that they aren't making the same things as previous seasons? It's pretty obvious that their MO these days is to make whatever they feel like. I'm not sure they owe it to you to make the same pair of pants over and over.

That being said if they ever stop making slim dungs I'll be in the same boat as you.

Point is it's frustrating to be strung along for months hearing that they'll have a certain item with no mention that it won't really be that item at all. I realize they do switch colors up, but they have restocked them in olive drab enough to give the impression that it's a staple color. Just annoying.

Did anyone get the 4x4 scarves? How's it hanging? I missed out and I'm looking for a black one. Any leads would be appreciated.
There are reviews of all the pants in this thread. They both hold up well, the dungarees perhaps more so than the OGs.

Outlier did offer flat black OGs that matched the blazer but they sold out quickly. The flat black Climbers are an alternative made with the same fabric.