Canadian Senate Passes Harsh Crime Bill

The Canadian Senate last Thursday night gave its approval to a government package of crime measures that include a number of harsh provisions, including mandatory minimum prison sentences for growing as few as six marijuana plants. The bill, C-10, the Safe Streets and Communities Act, now heads back to the House of Commons for final approval.

Canada's Senate Chamber

The bill has already passed the House, but members will have to approve amendments adopted by the Senate that more clearly define terrorist activities and how victims of terrorism can seek compensation from groups or states that support terrorism.

Passage in the Senate came after ruling Conservatives used their majority to limit debate on the measure to six hours. Liberals objected vociferously, but in vain. The only Conservative to vote against limiting debate was Sen. Pierre Claude Nolin, a long-time advocate of marijuana and other drug law reforms.

"Canadians are expecting us to pass this," said Conservative Sen. Claude Carignan, explaining that the rush to passage was necessary because the government had promised to pass the legislation within a hundred days of taking office. "The best way to ensure the population is not jaded when it comes to politics is to keep our promises."

Liberals argued that there was enough opposition to the bill that every senator deserved to be heard on the issue, but that argument didn't fly with the Conservative majority.

"There is no excuse for what this chamber is about to do," said Liberal Sen. Joan Fraser. "We should be ashamed of ourselves."

While the bill is now almost assured of final passage, opponents have vowed to carry on the fight in the courts. Once the bill becomes law and goes into effect, look for quick challenges to its constitutionality under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

Is the idea that elements within the US, Canada & Mexico are intent on creating the atmosphere for the formation of the North American Union which will dissolve the borders and create one giant ...............whatever you want to call it, seem as farfetched as it did a few years ago ??! Am I just paranoid ??...............No, I do not think so, and the alignment of drug policy between all three countries speaks volumes.

Vote conservative they said...It will be better for Canada they said..

I'd rather have a bunch of bartenders and garage door salesmen working the house of commons than the Conservative crooks and scum currently in power.

Harper is trying to be the lapdog of Obama, when it should be clear that we Canadians want none of it. Even big comissions have warned Harper about his decision to pass this bill, yet all the warnings go in Harper's left ear and out the right ear without ever being acknowledged or scrutinized.

Stop voting for American lapdogs as Prime Minister. If you want to live the American life, I can personally guide you to the border.. I'll even carry your bags!

Those who voted for this bill are probably recipients of big pharma donations that have a vested interest in opressing natural drugs of all kinds. Additionally private prisons and police unions always vote for imprisonment for anything as it improves their income and provides more slaves for profitable prison slave contracts and provides more income from the taxpayer for imprisonment...that's how america does it anyway. Even in states without private prisons the prison industrial complex is kept alive by ever increasing penalties against completely harmless behavior. It would not suprise me if the same financial interests were driving a move to advance a police state in your country also. Look for the money in this and the opportunity to fatten the power of government bureaucrats (resulting in pay raises) and you will find the actual motivation for this law. Welcome to america Canada,,,,soon you will have the right to be tortured or murdered by your own government without even being charged with a crime... just like we do. Maybe if you're lucky you can get yourself into a bunch of wars so that people who make machine guns can finally buy that island they always wanted. Welcome to america.....canada.

For those of you who are wondering, this could be considered a human rights violation because

"... it is possible for the mandatory punishment, in a specific matter or reasonable hypothetical case, to be “grossly disproportionate,” given the gravity of the offence or the personal circumstances of the offender."

taken from "http://www.parl.gc.ca/About/Parliament/LegislativeSummaries/bills_ls.asp?lang=F&ls=c10&Parl=39&Ses=1&source=library_prb"

I voted conservative and would consider myself conservative but the idea that my tax money will be going to build more prisons to house these non violent criminals makes me sick. I like the idea of tougher crime laws but not for non violent crimes, put the violent criminals behind bars. I dont want to be paying out the yahoo for some kid who got caught with some weed! What century is this? On an unrelated note when was the last time anyone bought a bottle of booze from some shady dude in an alley? Legalize and control weed, the demand is out there lets tax it and reap the benefits make some money instead of throwing it away its what any TRUE conservative would do

I voted conservative for their fiscal policies. I thought they couldn't do too much harm in a few years if they got the finances in order, but they've far exceeded my worst fears in every way while not even managing the money properly. It's going to be a long time before I could even consider voting Conservative again.

Hissing and complaining at conservatives won't do anything positive, even though they smell of stupidity or deceit.

This bill takes us in the wrong direction, however. I feel that if we have a really harsh bill, the next government will be forced to remove it and liberate people more freely. Sort of like what happened with east and west Germany. After the Nazi regime, east German citizens lost a lot of privileges, but when the wall fell they got them all back plus some (Great education system, healthcare, etc..)

Its going to be a waiting game until this world sorts its problems from its politics, and until then, the responsiblity will fall squarely on the shoulders of people who can read and write, and think for themselves.

Which conservative policies did you vote for? Building more prisons while crime rates are dropping is something Harper campaigned on! Why are you surprised he wants to do it? Or did you miss this while you were voting in favour of the policies of internet spying, outlawing birth control, teaching creationism in schools, closing hospitals and firing teachers ? Or did you vote conservative just to ban gay marriage?

by What happened to listening to the people? (not verified), March 04, 2012, 10:56pm

You are not representative of society if you make decisions against their will. It's not a "I know best" position you have inherited. Listen to the people and do your job. There are many arguments for the decriminalization of marijuana, and many of the advocates are non-smokers. There is a much heavier burden on the system for moving this bill forward and no real degree of reasoning can rationalize this ramification. Preschool antics of 'drugs are bad' is a poor banner to carry your argument. The 'prohibition on alcohol' should not be a reoccuring theme in our democracy. Learn from our governments past mistakes and rectify them. There are examples of nations that have legalized marijuana and they are still standing. I am not a smoker personally, but I can still fathom the damage this will cause, the same way I can acknowledge the damage the prohibition caused. I am not largely into politics, but anyone supporting this bill is blissfully ignorant to the workings of the world around them, and many Canadians will suffer as a result -- unnecessarily.

These same policies led the US to become the world's biggest prison state. Now we're trying like hell to undo it and claw the freedom we once had back from draconian forces will hold on to the death. We've sacrificed an entire generation of the poor and minority members of our communities to our own Gulag Archipelago. Taken their ability to get an education, or even a job and permanently relegated them to an underclass that will produce nothing, and sap resources for the rest of their lives.

It seems incomprehensible that a nation as close and culturally similar to ours could look at our example and seek to emulate it. God help you all. Your guy Harper? He's a madman.

This is a true disgrace. Harper that crazy evangelical really needs to be taken down a notch. The entire conservative party is literally pure evil, and mean to destroy everything Canada is. W e need to stop these criminals. My Grandfather saw his friends get blown to smithereens, and burned to a crisp in WW2 for Canada, for freedom and equality. It is a very dark time, when a psycho like this can complete hijack our parliamentary process. What is sad, is this is happening around the world. The NWO is gripping our earth, and it is time to stand up and say NO. We cannot leave our earth in the hands of these mad men. They think of the common man as a peasant. They could care less to see your life and that of your family's completely destroyed. Rise up people, and say NO MORE! Lets take OUR earth back, because it is OUR birthright.

The cartoon where various opponents said that Harper was two-faced and would begin to ignore the people for his special interest buddies as soon as he became PM? I wish it were on YouTube because it was very prescient indeed.

Canadians! If you want to know how you wound up with Mr. sake-Eyes, Google the following:

Harper Versailles France 2003.

You won't like what you read. Like our Presidents, this is how your PM is actually picked...and not picked by YOU.

Like many of my friends, I had grown to think of Canada as a saner version of what the US might have become had the right people been put in charge in our own country. I guess I was wrong. It appears that Canadian politicians must be just as craven to corporate interests and given to pandering to reactionary illiterates as our own. Still hope I'm wrong.

I don't know anyone in my province, other than my aunt who is a life long tory, that actually voted for harper. I have been telling people for years that the only way he reached office was because they were stuffing ballots or paying off somebody in elections Canada; and what do u know, the robocalls scandal, then the 2700 stuffed ballots, fake ballots, how did they even get counted, anyway this is just the begining, and what do u know, they were able to trace it back to the Tory party, nothing has come of it yet cause they are all getting paid off. How stupid do u have to be not to see that Harpers own interests lie with the oil industry as a former Esso oil exec, he is using Chinese money to buy his way in Canadian politics for the Chinese and his constituents. You only need look at his face and eyes to see what a devil creep he is, what happened to womans intuition, cant they see right through him i know my wife could. Anyways it doesn't matter, Im leaving the country as is my father inlaw, back to Scotland, my father, back to Europe, and my family and i with him. Why u ask, because i smoke weed rarely for one, but because even though i can do autocad design, a ticket in electrical, mechanical, refrigeration and welding, i cant get paid more than 4gs a month gross, not enough to live in western Canada and i dont want to move to Calgary and be an oil pig, so doesn't leave me much choice. The sad thing is that all these mom and pop operations of which im sure i lived next to for 5 yrs, wont be doing it anymore and the bikers will just make more money now. All these small BC towns like nelson and the Kootneys will surely fail without the family growers to support the town, good bye BC economy, we cant all work in the oil field can we. oh but we can be slave labor for harpers next plan, private prisons, Canadians are very very stupid and poorly educated, why, too many immigrants who are sucked into voting for harper due to his racial choice for the riding, and the prairies are his cause they are all red neck hicks. Look when Stockwell Day leaves your party you know you've gone too far. some terminally ill patient that cant get their medical pot anymore will likely deal with harper like john Lenon got dealt with, one can only hope. good luck Canada, see you in hell 5 yrs from now when Obama drags his country out and harper plunges Canada into hell. Wow Canadians never seize to amaze me, they voted in that self indulging pig Brian Mulroney, a Tory, and now, Harper, well i guess there are still people out there with their national socialist party memberships still that want to see aldolf harper stay in power, and atleast he doesnt descriminate, he will make slaves out of anyone not just jews, btw, u seen his blond haired blue eyed whole family on rick mercers 2006 this hour has 22 minutes, what a creep, even stephan dion would have been better, God only help us, I would love to see jack layton or bob rae take PM office, no one can do any worse financially than harper, anyone who doesnt think so look at our 16.4% unemployment rate, these are post ww2 numbers, hmmm i wonder what the world is heading to?