This ‘plan’ is pretty Manson-family-esque. Not to mention, stupidly racist, stupidly sexists and just stupid. Also, this idiot is going to get lost at sea if he thinks sailing to the right is the best way to get to Japan from the US. Looks like he is going to be the one with the small pee-pee, overboard and drowning.

Uh, uh… how should someone who thinks Japan is right next to “murrica” know about ūman ribu, WOLF or other feminist movements in Japan. As for Japanese women desiring to mate with chunky monolingual morons, who want to take them to another country, Madam Butterfly anyone? I’m pretty sure the Japanese self-defense forces would sink that rapist ship, and that would indeed save the world…
Next concept, please

Just from the preview picture you can tell the creator of that video must be a very pathetic individual. This appears to be one of those videos that inadvertently support what they’re against by proving the very points they are rallying against.

I call a Poe on this one. There’s no way he’s serious. I think he’s attempting to mock the stupidity as well as the misogyny of anti-feminists (and nothing says “stupid” better than crude and casual racism and sexism.) If he was really this stupid, he couldn’t have figured out how to produce the animation, crude though it is.

Nope, this has to be a poorly executed Poe. Criticize him for not doing it well, but don’t label him as what he’s (almost) certainly trying to mock.

At first watch I was leaning heavily toward Poe, or maybe even an attempt to make fun of the misogynists. I mean, the “Thanks mom for letting me stay up past 10 to make this” in the credits? But the guy who uploaded this has tons of MRA/MGTOW videos uploaded, did a long interview with MGTOW radio. I think our counterparts just really are this juvenile.

*yawn*
Do you actually remember what Poe’s law says? It’s about the fact that the original is so horrible that the parody is mistaken as the original. Which means that for something to be a Poe something equally horrible must exist.
So, the safe bet is to take it as real until proven otherwise.

First of all, he states that the men will leave and see how the feminists like it when the men are gone. Well, I certainly won’t complain (sorry, awesome guys on this website). Then he states that the feminists won’t be able to grow/make their own food. Is he stupid? Plenty of women work on farms and garden. I think we’ll figure it out. Then he says that by the time men come back (with Asian wives), the feminists will just have been complaining that there weren’t any men to take care of them. I can already take care of myself. And if I have to buy food from a feminist farming collective while the men are gone, that sounds like a win-win. For me. Enjoy Japan guys, I hear the water’s only slightly irradiated.

It may be an April Fool’s joke, but look at the other uploads on his channel. Bollocks about ‘feminists in France making flirting illegal’, etc. If it’s a joke, it’s only because he knows he can never live out the fantasy outlined in the video.

Even if it is supposed to be a tongue-in-cheek little romp, I am galled by the fact that they did so by bringing race into it, and playing the “submissive asian woman” stereotype as straight as a fucking arrow. Fuck.

A bit off topic, but only just so: Speaking of raging misogyny, homophobia, racism, and other cherished human values, you’ll be pleased to know that Pope Frank is doing his part: Pope Blasts Abortion After Decrying Focus on Rules. Apparently the day before he said something in an interview that was marginally human, “blasting the church’s obsession with ‘small-minded rules’ that are driving the faithful [ aka donors ] away and urging it focus instead on being merciful and welcoming” This has “sent shock waves throughout the church.” My goodness! But it’s ok, he’s fixed that by saying that every unborn child looks like a 1st CE person from Palestine. Who knew.

“Many sexist slurs and insults were lobbed against female activists by orthodox Jewish men. One woman was actually told by a man of the Ohel Moshe synagogue “you deserve to be raped — you’d like it, wouldn’t you?”. People laughed and mocked the chicken’s cries of anguish. Dead body parts were thrown over fences at us. Fights broke out. Half a dozen police cars were on site, as well as a police helicopter. It was sheer pandemonium. It wasn’t a protest — it was a war.”

This was during a protest of kapparos, a new year’s festival in which Orthodox Jews fling live chickens over their heads to symbolically remove their sins. The chickens are tormented through every part of the process, and eventually inhumanely slaughtered and thrown away.

Note the gratuitous mysogyny.

Too many atheist meat eaters refuse to recognize the religious roots of meat eating and animal exploitation. In Genesis 1.26: god gives man dominion over the earth, and in Genesis 3.16 god gives man dominion over women. That’s not the only root – obviously non-Western cultures also promote male dominance – but it is an important root, at least here in the West.

It may be an April Fool’s video, but it’s September, and it was sent at me today by a known MRA. You might also try reading the youtube comments — the MRAs aren’t treating it as a big joke.

Wow, that speaks volumes about their intelligence. Not only does the whole thing look and sound like almost deadpanned satire of Morally Repugnant Assholism, take a look at the credits: of the two people mentioned, one (the one with all jobs except “Director”) is called “GeneralWomanizer”, and at the very end (2:01), as several people here have mentioned, it says:

“Special thanks to my mom
for letting me stay up past 10 to work on this :) “

!!!

I conclude that the guy who uploaded this isn’t the one who made it, but took it for real. Now that’s a look into a brain I really didn’t want to look into.

To paraphrase Andre the Giant from The Princess Bride: “Uh, I don’t think that word means what you think it does.”

Slight change of subject:

I realize that Marilyn Waring is a bit of an obscure figure in feminism; therefore, I like to mention her work in every appropriate thread and I think this one qualifies. In the 70s she taught herself economics then wrote a book called If Women Counted in which she pointed out that (at the time and probably now too) half the economic activity in the world is women working without receiving pay (this includes subsistence farming in addition to “traditional” women’s tasks of child-rearing, etc). Because they do not receive money for their labor none of the economic measurements nor theories “counts” them or their work.

This is the main reason I find it difficult to take most economists seriously: they ignore half of the economic activity taking place in the world. Most of them are barely one step above Mr. Sail-East-to-Japan. (Maybe calling the region “East Asia” confuses him?).

Ultimately, it really doesn’t matter whether this was intended as some incredibly poorly executed piece of satrire or was a straightforward case of misogynistic and racist bigotry being spewed by a prejudiced MRA twit (the second scenario seeming entirely possible given the limitless capacity of misogynists for ignorant, ranting arsehattery) – if it was meant in earnest, then it simply one more unsurprising (though still utterly repugnant) example of how deep the internet well of hatred toward women and feminists really runs (with the racism thrown in for free). If it was supposed to be satire, then as per Poe’s Law it fails because it is indisguinisable from misogynist hatred and casual racist bigotry. meant in earnest.

As a result, it doesn’t work to subvert and mock sexism, and instead simply reinforces it by giving the appearance of being the voice of one more entitled dudebro who agrees wholeheartedly with the woman-hating dregs of humanity that can be found at such charming little back alleys of teh intertoobs as AVFM.

Unless you think it’s just random that a bunch of guys at a religious ceremony threaten female activists with rape?

Considering the number of non-religious guys and not-particularly-religious guys who threaten to rape all the damn time: yeah, I think it’s just random. I do not think that religious people or people involved in religious ceremonies have any sort of patent on disgusting rape threats. There’s a lot wrong with religion. Pretending that religion is the one and only source of misogyny and rape doesn’t help.

@46 roro80 – I don’t think religion is the only source of misogyny and animal abuse, and said that explicitly in my post.

However, I do think religion is a major source of both. The reason veg*m is relevant to this thread is because all of the major forms of oppression in our society spring philosophically (in large part but NOT in toto) from the same dominionist/patriarchal root. Again, I don’t think it’s random that two of god’s *very first* instructions in the bible are for men to dominate animals and women.

The randomness I was referring to in my prior post was not religious guys threatening rape; it was guys of any kind (but who in this case happen to be religious) threatening rape completely gratuitously as a response to a protest on a totally different topic. So that demonstrates a commonality between, and conflation of, mysogyny and animal abuse.

Also, having Feminist Frequency in the thumbnail just goes to show. I mean plenty of people in the (online Youtube) gaming community were dismissive of some of the points in her videos, but you can really see the true misogynists coming out of the woodwork when they decide putting her head on a pig in a video wanting to get rid of all feminists is a really funny joke.

Something like: less misogynistic people who think something a feminist says is wrong, just react with: meh, not interested.

This video IS Poe’s Law in action. It doesn’t matter if it’s satire or not – it’s indistinguishable from the real thing. So much, in fact, that the usual gaggle of assholes is already screeching under it.

Yes, I do remember, and that’s why I called this a Poe. It’s the extreme version of what all the MRA contingent spews out. If it seems a bit too extreme, in this case I’d attributed that to its being poorly executed. But it fits the criteria just fine.

Unfortunately, I may have been wrong, given what others are writing about the person who posted this to Youtube. I don’t read the comments there if I can help it (I like to keep my food down) so I hadn’t seen the MRAs going gaga over it. If the maker of the video really is the MRA idiot who posted it or sent it to PZ…well, I own myself had and this a disgusting piece of crap that we shouldn’t give any more hits to if we can help it. But if, as some other commenters have suggested, this was made by someone else who is slyly revealing himself at the end with the “thanks Mom” bit, then it is a Poe, just not a very good one as it’s a bit too extreme to sail by as the real thing without earning a skeptical second look from some of its viewers.

Of course, it’s admired by the MRA idiots regardless of whether it’s a Poe or not, but we can’t judge anything by what people that stupid think of it.

As self-righteous and annoying as the protagonists of Atlas Shrugged were, at least the characters who “went Galt” just did it — they slipped away mysteriously, and nobody knew why or where. They didn’t loudly insist repeatedly, “I’m going Galt! I totally am! Just you watch! You’ll regret it! No stopping me now! Don’t even try!” like a five-year-old declaring that he’s running away from home.

Oh, and I feel compelled to be pedantic about Princess Bride references, so:

sadunlap@38:

To paraphrase Andre the Giant from The Princess Bride: “Uh, I don’t think that word means what you think it does.”

@vaiyt #53:
But vaiyt, don’t intentions matter? I mean if something *is* the real thing, despite it being indistinguishable from satire, doesn’t that stop it being a POE? Isn’t it more a bad joke or hyperbole? The process of the video to me is basically creating a straw-man of the author’s own position to be able to laugh at the opposing position while laughing at oneself. That’s a rhetorical tactic that is commonly used (sigh, also within these hallowed tags), and is separate from the intended irony of a good POE.

*eyeroll* Another idiot MRA. Or maybe give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he’s a poe? Problem is that in order for him to be a poe he’d need to make it pretty clear that he’s joking and this just isn’t funny.

Also: I love how he assumes that Japanese women would just fall in with his plan and they don’t have their own form of feminism. Just because it isn’t like American feminism doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.