This is America, on economic policy issues, our center-left is the rest of the world's center-right (or just plain right).

Not to mention that this year in particular, more of the big-money technocrat crowd than is usual is going strongly Dem since even just the action of electing Trump would destabilize the markets, never mind if he actually gets to impose any of the madness that he's spouted off like leaving the WTO, ending NAFTA, using NATO as an extortion racket, etc.

Part of the package I guess--at least for Seth's event--was depending on the level you donated you got to have lunch with Hillary (aka in the same room as her) or get a photo taken with her. So while I don't think they're gonna cry about it like a bunch of Bieber stans, I think they'd expect to get their extra perks for their $33,000.

I'm assuming that the Republicans will run wild with worst case scenario prognosis of her capabilities and Trump will over saturate the media while she's sick... This being the last month or so, is it the time that either of them could pour their energy in convincing those on the fence or moderates who haven't decided who they voting for? How else could this affect her campaign?

there have been conspiracy theories pushed on right wing websites for a while that clinton is deathly ill and being propped up that have started becoming more mainstream with trump and his surrogates questioning clinton's "stamina." she even went on jimmy kimmel and tried to make light of it by showing she can open a can of pickles. considering how much press this has gotten, it seems to support that narrative (especially the video of her struggling to get into the van) and really sucks.

I don't think it's going to change who votes for her. The people who are ~worried~ about her health and dabble in these conspiracies that she has Alzheimer's are never voting for her in the first place imo. Much like those outraged @ her deplorables comment. If she missed the 9/11 memorial people would complain. I don't think she could have won no matter what she did. It almost might work in her favor that she was ill and didn't cancel anything at that time and kept going. Actually I kind of lol bc if men only knew half the shit women go through and still go to work but anyways...

I think there's always this issue about her transparency/secrecy and some of that's warranted but a lot of it has been brought into the mainstream media thanks to the media completely normalizing Trump and what he says and does. Let's also remember Trump's dubious doctor's note and physical he's going to do on Dr. Oz or whatever lmao. Trump gets a pass for a lot of shit.

I think that if she comes in strong (and physically, looking strong) at the debates it'll overshadow this, but I am worried. Given that the media is so ridiculously soft on Trump in the name of trying to avoid appearing biased, if he manages not to say anything horribly offensive and she's up there hacking up a lung, I could easily see this swaying the narrative just enough that people will declare him the "winner."

I doubt it. How sick is she if she appeared 2 hours later, smiling, greeting people and walking to the car on her own? She stood in the sun for an hour and a half at Ground Zero and got tired because she has pneumonia. Many people would never have gotten out of bed in the morning if they'd had pneumonia.

It actually shows how tough she is. Democrats will vote for her regardless, and honestly, if you're still undecided in the face of Trump's blatant racism and pathological lies, maybe you just shouldn't vote at all.

TMZ is doing the most (as usual) to use this illness to hurt Hilary with all of these stories about how sick and fragile she is and how her backers are being screwed out of a chance to meet her, etc. Harvey is obviously a Trump supporter and takes every opportunity to blast anything that can harm Hilary. With all the insane shit Trump has done, you never see any stories on TMZ knocking him.

Hilary obviously caught pneumonia on purpose just to screw her supporters and give Trump the opportunity to declare her too weak to be president. How stupid of her supporters not to see that she would plan something like this.

Trump supporters are twisting this to make her look as if she's medically unfit to be President because they're desperate to find anything to distract from the fact that their candidate of choice is a psychopath.

yesterday she said that she got overheated at a 9/11 event even though it was a 75 degree day. then a video from that day emerges of her collapsing and her team is dragging her limp body into the car. not to mention, i believe this is her third fainting episode in the past 10 years or something and last time it happened she got a concussion and had a blood clot as well.

The Trump campaign has been subtly- and not-so-subtly fanning all of the alt-right rumors that Crooked Hillary has serious health problems (strokes, epilepsy, brain tumor, etc.) and while initially I think the vast majority of people dismissed these as conspiracy theories, the video of Hillary collapsing into the car, feet dragging, etc. and the fact that her team was originally denying any health problems at all quite vehemently... even as someone who's strongly anti-Trump and reasonably happy with Hillary as my candidate, I can see how it's bad optics.

I mean, even on the off chance that she does have something more serious than pneumonia, I'd much rather have Tim Kaine and a Hillary-picked cabinet running the show, but I wouldn't be surprised if this plays badly with swing voters.

Lenin paid Rasputin to cast a spell on her and now she is controlled by Iran and her zombie corpse will take away our guns and our religion and nuke us and send our souls to Xenu. Get with the picture heathen.

Yeah it's been clear to me for a while now that this won't be a landslide win, which is depressing. But I am still pretty certain she will win. It's a bummer that a piece of shit racist like Trump is getting as far as he is, but in the end his loss will be what matters I guess.

Trump still only has very few options/routes in the electorate to win. Of course in this mess of a country it's possible but it's still going to be extremely difficult for him. Hopefully Hillary brings her A game for the debates (even when the moderators are shit) and expose Trump for what he is. And I know he will fuck up again between now and November and say more dumb shit in the debates.