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good episode judging from the raw, i ll rate it after i get the subbed ones.

Good point
- Tieria looks more like guy in his suit.
- No emo moment when they are out there capping people's ass.
- Love the grunt designs
- Sumeragi = hawt... curly brunette.. yummy even in a unflattering jump suit
- Union Flag looks good, great design and smooth animation during transformation from air to robot mode

Bad Point
- Even if it's super mech vs normal grunt... still too much of a pushover, atleast Exia took a arty shell from a grunt artillery unit
- Exia's sword cuts way too easily... looks unreal when it doesn't seem to have energy/vibro property
- They didnt put in the transformation sequence for Kyrios yet

Hey all, new to the forum but I've roamed for some time now and decided to finally join. Listening to what was posted about the Celestial Being's leader got me thinking:

Spoiler:

I think that hyperlion is right that this recording was probably made over 200 years earlier when this guy was alive. Considering the digital technology of today any recording would have no quality loss and last virtually forever. So he could have made multiple recordings to be used later on and they'd all look brand new. Watching again what he said in his monologue to the world in episode 1 he does not mention any power by name in particular and only mentions his organization will interfere in the actions of any other organization,country,etc that continues war. With such a broad and vague statement, his recordings would not have an expiration date and could be used any time including today in our era for example and still have the same impact.

When he mentions Gundams will end war, what if what we think is Gundam (i.e. the Mobile Suit) is not what he thought of at the time, but rather a code word for a yet to be made super weapon to end all war. But he never saw his dream realized and left it to his organization to create "Gundam" in the future (whatever it may be) to fulfill his wishes. Whenever the mobile suit came around and became the battle decider, maybe Celestial Being at the time decided to make a more advanced mobile suit to become the "Gundam" that the first Celestial Being's leader wanted. This research could have culminated into 0 Gundam that Setsuna saw in episode 1 and branch out into the current Gundams seen in the series so far.

Therefore Celestial Being could be an organization created a long time ago and the current successor to the first leader could use his recordings, name and funds to perhaps fool everyone in Celestial Being such as the pilots, crew and those that created "Gundam" into thinking that they fight to end war but will rather be used for some other purpose later in the series. I hope something like this may be the case because cryogenics and cloning have been done too often to the point of being passe IMO.

better episode. I feel like they could have thrown some of this stuff (namely a lot of the 1st half) into episode 1 though.

battles had some good animation, but honestly needed some more give and take (like Exia getting hit by the shell, Lockon having to do a bit of dodging vs. Setsuna's dodge while attacking) Virtue for example could have at least looked like getting hit was effecting it, even if only a little.

other than that, show's story is actually starting to interest me a bit. Setsuna's "I am the Gundam" line was quite off-kilter (sadly I didn't get to hear Mamoru Miyano break into psychotic laughter....maybe next time :\ ), and it's also somewhat interesting to see all the gundam pilots other than Lockon seeming slightly 'damaged' so far (though who knows until they get to the backstory stuff in the 20-40s area) also glad to see we're not going into the SEED's "don't kill" stuff.

previews made it look like they're actually going to have some worthy opponents next week. hopefully the fights will be interesting, but I'm somewhat skeptical, especially after the massacre they did on the HLF and local units this week.

I think as time goes on and the three factions become more experienced, they will find out Gundam's weaknesses and develop new tactics to neutralize Celestial Being's current advantage.

What I also liked about this episode is that we also get a glimpse into what Haro is capable of:

At one point before his attack, Lockon delegates evasive manuevers to Haro, which makes good sense since he has to focus on sniping his targets. In theory, it should also work the other way, but then Lockon wouldn't be as fun a character because he'd be guilty of using an aimbot

Hey all, new to the forum but I've roamed for some time now and decided to finally join. Listening to what was posted about the Celestial Being's leader got me thinking:

Spoiler:

I think that hyperlion is right that this recording was probably made over 200 years earlier when this guy was alive. Considering the digital technology of today any recording would have no quality loss and last virtually forever. So he could have made multiple recordings to be used later on and they'd all look brand new. Watching again what he said in his monologue to the world in episode 1 he does not mention any power by name in particular and only mentions his organization will interfere in the actions of any other organization,country,etc that continues war. With such a broad and vague statement, his recordings would not have an expiration date and could be used any time including today in our era for example and still have the same impact.

When he mentions Gundams will end war, what if what we think is Gundam (i.e. the Mobile Suit) is not what he thought of at the time, but rather a code word for a yet to be made super weapon to end all war. But he never saw his dream realized and left it to his organization to create "Gundam" in the future (whatever it may be) to fulfill his wishes. Whenever the mobile suit came around and became the battle decider, maybe Celestial Being at the time decided to make a more advanced mobile suit to become the "Gundam" that the first Celestial Being's leader wanted. This research could have culminated into 0 Gundam that Setsuna saw in episode 1 and branch out into the current Gundams seen in the series so far.

Therefore Celestial Being could be an organization created a long time ago and the current successor to the first leader could use his recordings, name and funds to perhaps fool everyone in Celestial Being such as the pilots, crew and those that created "Gundam" into thinking that they fight to end war but will rather be used for some other purpose later in the series. I hope something like this may be the case because cryogenics and cloning have been done too often to the point of being passe IMO.

Well, here's Mr. Aeolia Schenberg's English bio from the episode:

Quote:

Material that can get to know him is only a thesis of the engineering theory and the physical theory that he left now.
The one to be paid attention especially especially is a basic theory of the photovoltaic generation system by the orbit elevator w...
To our regret, it was not possible to achieve by technology at that time, and social attention was thin.
He is advocating the concept of the person type machine that does construction and the defense work of the orbit elevator at t...

So you might be right indeed. Judging from this, he seems to have created the theory GN Particles technology and might have even advocated using mobile suits? I guess he got fed up with everything and started the whole Celestial Being plot to be carried out years after his death.

Strangely though, it also says they didn't know what year he died (though there seems to be a conflict of info on that screen with 2015 and 2051 as dates of birth for him... The former is probably a typo based on his Japanese bio though)...

BTW, love how they still use Windows XP with custom skin so far in the future.

Another solid episode. It' s nice to see the world is changing because of the appearance of Celestial Being. Union is the most interesting of all 3 power. They seems quite self righteous by justifying their invasion on other land as means to protect their people and economy

The Gundam Meisters begin their first intervention this episode. We see the Gundams and their dominating power. Setsuna's character is more fleshed out. Normally he's calm, but when triggered by certain thing such as war, he kinda goes berserk. Gundam Exia looks really evil when he slashes and dices all the Tierens. Lockon is like a brother to Setsuna as he keeps him in check. Allelujah is probably the kindest of the group and feels guilty of bombing the people. Nothing more about Tieria though, maybe except he is quite devoted to Celestial Being's idea.

I like that Setsuna doesn't let his rage consumes him. Despite his anger, he doesn't deal final blow to the last 2 Tierens collapsed on the ground. And he destroys the 2 Amphs which try to kill them. I guess this is why Lockon is relieved since Setsuna still remembers their mission, which is not a massacre.

Graham is really an interesting character. And I wonder how his interest on the Gundam Exia will affect the story

Ooooh, really good reviews...Getting the ep now, however my awesome review won't come until tommorrow...I guess the question I hope to be answered is if the production quality dips any..usually that can happen after a first ep...

Ooooh, really good reviews...Getting the ep now, however my awesome review won't come until tommorrow...I guess the question I hope to be answered is if the production quality dips any..usually that can happen after a first ep...

Well if I remember correctly, Gundam shows usually have a higher budget to work with compared to most shows from Sunrise, however knowing that the show is going to be split into two season, Seiji should have greater flexibility on the budget for this season, so hopefully the quality is very consistent with the first two episodes...and yeah I notice no drop in animation quality.