Excuse me. Don't put words in my mouth. I did not say that I disliked it or it was a bad thing. I did say that it would be forced down people's throats and most likely with the same heavy handed tactics on the forums that the Mods of Blizzard use. Whether they like it or no, the players will be forced to swallow it up (bugs, gamebreaking errors and all) like the good little consumer whores we are expected to be. So get over yourself.

If you feel that it isn being forced down your throat and you have to be the good little consumer whore, then its quite obvious you dont like it. You still never answered my questions about whats wrong with crz and or virtual realms. If you feel so passionate about it not being shoved down your throat you can at least say why you dont want it.

I'm really curious to hear about how the VR guilds will work. It would be really cool to have my off-server alts all in one guild. My hope is that it'll extend to realID friends the way CRZ does currently, but maybe that's just wishful thinking

No news on one feature during a PTR for three weeks? Cancellation confirmed!

Don't be so ridiculous. If they'd given up on it they'd have said. No news is good news and all that.

Inability to read the word Maybe in the op and then assuming I assume its confirmed. Check. Be serious, anytime they know for sure a feature will be added, they give All of the details. We got the announcement of flex raid with a giant blog detailing every possible detail in depth. I am not saying its been confirmed to be canceled. I am saying, past experience shows that their unwillingness to give any more information on it does ring familiar. Particularly when they are unsure if the feature will go as planned.

It can't really be tested on PTR other than to see if the basic feature is working.

I imagine it will be glitchy and maybe kind of bad occasionally for the first month or two, but I'm glad it's coming.

It's desperately needed, so I expect that they have already had it working for quite some time, and in reality it is probably THE feature of 5.4 and maybe THE feature of MoP (like LFR turned out to be THE feature of Cataclysm).

It can't really be tested on PTR other than to see if the basic feature is working.

I imagine it will be glitchy and maybe kind of bad occasionally for the first month or two, but I'm glad it's coming.

It's desperately needed, so I expect that they have already had it working for quite some time, and in reality it is probably THE feature of 5.4 and maybe THE feature of MoP (like LFR turned out to be THE feature of Cataclysm).

Of course it can be tested on the PTR. What about it couldn't ? There are multiple realms on the PTR.

Also I know plenty of folks who would argue that xmog was THE feature of Cata :P

It's been a very long time since virtual realms was announced. Since the announcement we have gotten no new information. They say they will give us tons in a blog post coming up. I've been waiting (since something on mmo-champ mentioned possible cross realm heirlooms) for more information, yet its still not here. Im not expert, but I don't think it would take all that long to quickly type of 5-6 paragraphs of what the heck is this information. Im starting to think they took on one to many big projects for 5.4 and maybe virtual realms fell behind.

They can't give up on it, low population realms are starting to plummit in activity and have been for a while. On my server the other evening I was in a group looking for the last member to do a HC scenario... we didn't get a reply... I did a /who 90 and found 35 people online... we ended up with someone from another realm (which has happened quite a few times now)... other times the groups disbanded.

Explain to me how virtual realms is a bad thing. While you are at it explain how xrealm zones are even a bad thing. You are mad because you cant abuse low pop servers anymore. Get over it.

People like me view this as a bad thing because it's a bandaid solution to a problem blizz made themselves out of their unwillingness to simply let go off server transfer fees. They just go leaf and bounds to figure out some akward clunky systems instead of just stop screwing around and do it like a K.I.S.S ( Keep it simple stupid). How? Simple login server and change realms into channels like any decent F2P MMO these days. And NO... dont give me the "not enough resources" or "It's hard-coded" bullturd. Do you really expect me to believe that after how they changed other seemingly "hard-coded" features like looting? or better yet. Do they expect people to believe that they cant deal with something in their own creation they had been working on for almost a decade?

Except virtual realms removes a lot of what made CRZ suck by unifying economies.

But have they/can they fix the problems with disconnects and passenger mounts? The bits of lag here and there? Problems with players being out of phase sometimes after taking flight paths?

I dual box and disconnect several times a day from it. I realize not everyone dual-boxes and not everyone frequently has passengers riding on their two seater mounts (if they even have one) but that still indicates a MAJOR instability in CRZ (and therefore the Virtual Realm) system.

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People like me view this as a bad thing because it's a bandaid solution to a problem blizz made themselves out of their unwillingness to simply let go off server transfer fees. They just go leaf and bounds to figure out some akward clunky systems instead of just stop screwing around and do it like a K.I.S.S ( Keep it simple stupid). How? Simple login server and change realms into channels like any decent F2P MMO these days. And NO... dont give me the "not enough resources" or "It's hard-coded" bullturd. Do you really expect me to believe that after how they changed other seemingly "hard-coded" features like looting? or better yet. Do they expect people to believe that they cant deal with something in their own creation they had been working on for almost a decade?

People are mad because they are fed up with this bullturd.

This. CRZ introduced a lot of bugs into the game (dual-boxing has become a real pain because they can't seem to fix the passenger mount bugs/DCs), and it's been a real blight for those of us that aren't on low population servers. Hell, I'm on one of the servers people (and entire raiding guilds) have moved to because we were healthy (if you're horde - not so for alliance) so we're even BIGGER and we still have CRZ shoved down our throats.

Why would CRZ still be in effect? That would only serve to make things harder. With underpopulated realms merged with higher pop realms, the need for crz should go away.

CRZ is dependent on zone population, not realm population. You could have 1,000,000 on your server (for the sake of argument) but if you only had 3 people in Nagrand, they should expect to see CRZ in effect.

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Virtual Realms are sets of realms that are fused together, and will behave exactly as if they were one cohesive realm. Players on the same Virtual Realm will be able to join guilds

So, if let's say subs drop 1 mil more, a single group of fused realms will drop players, the remaining players will just move to the most populated 'group' as they are doing now, transfering to Kazzak and Dreanor etc. What are they going to do, add another realm to their group for balance? But what will happen to the group they 'steal' that realm from in regards to crossrealm guilds? Won't single groups just die off just as they are now in the end?

People like me view this as a bad thing because it's a bandaid solution to a problem blizz made themselves out of their unwillingness to simply let go off server transfer fees. They just go leaf and bounds to figure out some akward clunky systems instead of just stop screwing around and do it like a K.I.S.S ( Keep it simple stupid). How? Simple login server and change realms into channels like any decent F2P MMO these days. And NO... dont give me the "not enough resources" or "It's hard-coded" bullturd. Do you really expect me to believe that after how they changed other seemingly "hard-coded" features like looting? or better yet. Do they expect people to believe that they cant deal with something in their own creation they had been working on for almost a decade?

People are mad because they are fed up with this bullturd.

Is English not your native language? I've read this three times and still can't even get a clue the message you're trying to convey. I don't understand how merging servers is a band aid solution.