Brief excerpt; The paper said the general made clear at a speech given at a rally in Pyongyang that intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) and other rockets capable of attacking pre-set targets have been armed with various types of atomic warheads.

BTW, I STILL BELIEVE that these “nukes” are just a few thousand tons of urea based fertilizer that South Korea gave NK. South Korea has given them 1,000,000 tons in the last 10 years, nitrate and urea based.

If you look at the seismographic chart, it has two peaks to it, not one. It wasn’t a nuke but a huge chemical explosive detonated from two sides for maximum effect.

We are mothballing two of our Aegis cruisers...none are now on station near NOK. We don’t have a chance of stopping a NOK missile right now. Maybe the Japanese might do it , but the NOK’s know that we are bluffing and so are they.

NK doesn’t have diddly squat in the way of nuclear
warheads OR missiles that pose a realistic threat.
Now whether or not China or Russia have staged some
of their stuff in NK is a different issue but North
Korea simply doesn’t pose a credible threat to anyone
other than South Korea and possibly Japan.

I don’t think they even have nukes. Why would they be detonating 1KiloTon PLUTONIUM NUKES when that in itself necessitates SUPERIOR technology (suitcase bomb nuke)? The whole thing is a bluff to see if Obama buys it and sends people over with money. That’s the only thing this fat turd cares about.

He’s out of money and he has military to feed. He would never let his own people work and develop the country because they’d stick him with a pitchfork the first chance they get.

He takes a lot of fertilizer that SK sent him 10 years ago, converts it to an explosive, and blows it up under a mountain. Ooooh, a BOMB! Then he suddenly has the power to condense it into ICBM warhead size and, without any test, fire one at us? He’s full of s***.

Let him dance his little dance, because soon he’ll be deposed by some general of his.

usually we send a spy plane to pick up leaked isotopes, and the results are not published. Pretty sure from seismic results this was a nuke. Chemical explosives cannot be microsecond fast no matter how big. Look up Misty Picture or Minor Scale seismic profiles (kiloton conventional blasts).

>>usually we send a spy plane to pick up leaked isotopes, and the results are not published. Pretty sure from seismic results this was a nuke. Chemical explosives cannot be microsecond fast no matter how big. Look up Misty Picture or Minor Scale seismic profiles (kiloton conventional blasts).

I saw it too, Paki and Indian contemporaneous nuke tests are a solid cone from flash to finish. The Nork "nuke" had a double spike as if someone had screwed up the cap timing on the other side by a second. Then a sudden dip, and a growing rumble as the explosives thrown by the blast were ignited.

NK doesnt have diddly squat in the way of nuclear warheads OR missiles that pose a realistic threat.

You are 100% correct. If they do it, the delivery would be by boat, probably via a container ship or sub.

They would be absolutely insane to do this. The problem is their leader is absolutely insane. The solution is not difficult. Smoke the little bastard off the face of the earth and call it a North Korean atomic accident.

BTW, I STILL BELIEVE that these nukes are just a few thousand tons of urea based fertilizer that South Korea gave NK. South Korea has given them 1,000,000 tons in the last 10 years, nitrate and urea based.

I've been saying that since the first "fizzle", their results are nothing but a bluff. A chemical explosion of sufficient magnitude, spiked with the appropriate isotopes and noble gasses is a lot cheaper then actually going nuclear. Do you remember a couple of years ago, the Norks had an "industrial accident" that damn near erased one of their cities? A train loaded with "fertilizer" exploded as it was passing through a rail yard. There were rumors that it was sabotage and the plot was to take out Kimm the elder who's private train was scheduled to pass through the same rail yard. Kimm's train was delayed. I have satellite pictures of before and after and they show the city as decimated.

I'm guessing they bought the technology from the Pakistanis but couldn't afford to follow through with producing the hardware. A gun type design is simple, crude and easy to build but it is large and heavy, requiring a heavy bomber to carry it. If they faked a plutonium implosion device it would lend credibility to their threats of a missile attack.

The Red Chinese would give the Norks the whole package if they wanted them to have it. The Chinese will not do so because they do not want the crazy Koreans to start WWIII just when they have achieved economic ascendancy over the US and their "Manchurian candidate" is gutting our military. Why go to war and spoil all that real estate when all they need do is wait and the apple will fall right off the tree into their hands.

Regards, GtG

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posted on 03/07/2013 9:32:00 PM PST
by Gandalf_The_Gray
(I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)

Well, guess we’ll have to re-target a few of our missles toward North Korea..heh. There are those in this world that talk silly talk and this man is one of those. I’m sure that he knows the consequences so this is just a stupid statement by a dictator trying to get a rise out of his countrymen. Good luck with that...

Ah heck, in a huff we could always transfer a few smaller nukes to South Korea just to be sure...but why bother. Distance is not the problem - attitude is.

I thought it was a train consisting of hundreds of cars of LNG. I remember studying the before and after pictures closely. There was a boarding school near the station that was reduced to a cinder field. News reports were that thousands of people had been very badly burned, including many children. Medical aid and expertise was offered by many countries including the US; all was declined by NK.

The Dear Leader's private train had passed through the same switchyard hours (or maybe minutes) before the explosion.

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posted on 03/07/2013 9:48:17 PM PST
by Steely Tom
(If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)

EMP...I like your style...and sense of really playing dirty just before a major battle. If it’s fair, a battle plan sucks. By blinding them, your idea has real promise, at least for the first five minutes. With NK, that should be more than enough.

"You are 100% correct. If they do it, the delivery would be by boat, probably via a container ship or sub."

Very plausible. They could put it on a freighter destined for Havana and then divert to Miami. Plus, think about the ensuing crisis that Obama could exploit to permanently install an authoritarian central government. He might see an opportunity in letting the attack happen.

All they would need to do is bomb the communication structures of Pyongyang while simultaneously invading from the south. Kim Jong Un is like a retarded Hitler and would dive into the bunker while wishing his troops the very best.

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