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Old Bailey Proceedings, 4th May 1874.

CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT

Sessions Paper.

LUSK, MAYOR.

SEVENTH SESSION, HELD MAY 4TH, 1874.

MINUTES OF EVIDENCE,

TAKEN IN SHORT-HAND, BY

JAMES DROVER BARNETT

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ALEXANDER BUCKLER,

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VOL. LXXX.

SESSIONS VII. TO XII.

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COUNTY OF MIDDLESEX, AND THE PARTS OF THE COUNTIES OF ESSEX, KENT, AND SURREY, WITHIN THE JURISDICTION

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Held on Monday, May 4th, 1874, and following days,

BEFORE THE RIGHT HON. ANDREW LUSK, M.P., LORD MAYOR of the City of London; Sir ANTHONY CLEASBY , Knt., one of the Barons of Her Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Sir CHARLES POLLOCK , Knt., one other of the Barons of Her Majesty's Court of Exchequer; Sir WILLIAM ANDERSON ROSE , Knt., WILLIAM FERNELEY ALLEN, Esq., Sir SILLS JOHN GIBBON'S, Bart., Aldermen of the said City; The Right Hon. RUSSELL GURNEY , Q.C., M.P., Recorder of the said City; JAMES FIGGINS , Alderman of the said City; Sir THOMAS CHAMBERS , Knt., Q.C., M.P., Esq., Common Serjeant of the said City; and ROBERT MALCOLM KERR , Esq., LL.D., Judge of the Sheriff's Court; Her Majesty's Justices of Oyer and Terminer and General Gaol Delivery of Newgate, holden for the said City, and Judges of the Central Criminal Court.

CHARLES WHETHAM, Esq., Alderman.

JOHN HENRY JOHNSON , Esq.

Sheriffs.

THOMAS BEARD , Esq.

ARTHUR TURNER HEWETT , Esq.

Under-Sheriffs.

CENTRAL CRIMINAL COURT.

LUSK, MAYOR. SEVENTH SESSION.

A star (*) denotes that prisoners have been previously in custodyâtwo stars (**) that they have been more than once in custodyâan obelisk (â ) that they are known to be the associates of bad charactersâthe figures after the name in (Ice indictment denote the prisoner's age.

LONDON AND MIDDLESEX CASES.

OLD COURT.âMonday, May, 4th, 1874.

Before, Mr. Recorder.

329. JOHANNA CRAWLEY (30) , was indicted for stealing thirty-six books, the property of Silas William Baggs, in the dwelling house of Mary Hood.

MR. BUCKconducted the Prosecution.

GEORGE WILLIAM RACKET . I am a clerk in the service of Silas William Baggs and others, accountants at 28, King Street, Cityâon the evening of 27th February, about 7.30, I went down in the basement and saw two piles of books ready for removingâI went up and told Mr. Baggs what I had seenâhe told me to go down and lock them up againâI went down and the books were goneâI went to the street door and I saw a barrow in the middle of the road, about 50 yards from the houseâI saw three men and the prisoner by the barrowâI could not distinguish the books then, as there was a covering over the barrow, but I saw them afterwards and they were the same books that I had seen in the basementâI went in and told one of the partners, and I followed the barrow in consequence of what he saidâwhen I got into Lawrence Lane with a constable, I saw the barrow tipped over and the woman and one man wore trying to set it right againâone of the partners came and gave them into custodyâI heard her say at the police station that the man was her husband and he denied itâthe lock of the door where the books were, I found was loose, and there were marks on the door as if there had been something put in to force the lockâit had to be mended.

SAMUEL LYTHELL (City Detective). On the day after the second examination before the Magistrate, the 4th or 5th March, I saw the prisoner in the cells at the Court, and she made a statement to meâshe said "This man" alluding to the prisoner Young, who was then in custody, "is my husband; we came out from Holborn about 6.30 last night, and we came down into Cheapside, and went through several streets, the other man wheeled a barrow the whole of the time; then we came into King Street or some street leading out of Cheapside, I don't know the name, and I went into a public-house and my husband and the other man went away with the barrow, I waited in the public-house some time, presently they came back and came back into the public-house and had some beer, I went outside

and saw a truck standing there with some books on it; my husband walked away, and the man pulled the track, when we turned into a little street the truck broke down, while I was standing there a policeman came and locked us up"âYoung was acquitted last sessionsâthe woman had a child in her arms at the time.

GEORGE WILLIAM HAGGER . I am junior clerk in the service of Silas William Baggs and Co.âon the 27th February, I went out to the door and saw a barrow about 50 yards up King Street with some books upon itâI ran up and lookedâit was standing still when I saw it firstâa woman with a child was standing on the pavement.

SAMUEL PEARCE (City Policeman 574). I was in Cheapside about 7.45 on the 27th FebruaryâI was called to King Street by the first witnessâI saw a barrow in Lawrence Lane tipped upâI saw a man at the back of the truck and the woman was assisting him in lifting it upâI said to the woman "I shall take you into custody for stealing those books"âthe first witness said the books belonged to his employer and I sent for Mr. Baggs and he came and charged themâat the station the woman said that George Young the prisoner who was tried last session was her husbandâhe said he was not she then said she had nothing to do with it whatever.

NOT GUILTY .

330. JAMES GARDNER SAGER (30), was indicted for unlawfully incurring a debt and liability to pay 270l., and obtaining credit for the same by fraud.

MR. SERJEANT SLEIGHfor the Prosecution, stated that he had no evidence to offer.

NOT GUILTY .

331. HENRY FULLER (21) , unlawfully uttering counterfeit coin.

MR. CRAWFORDconducted the Prosecution.

SUSANNAH JEMIMA NATHAN . I assist my uncle, Mr. Gibbs, a cheesemonger of Britannia Terrace, Kensal New Townâon 23rd April, about 6 o'clock in the evening, the prisoner came in for two penny eggs, he gave me a half-crownâI put it with the other silver, but there was no other half-crownâI gave him 2s. 4d. change, and he went awayâabout ten minutes afterwards he came in again for 2oz. of butter, and offered me a half-crown in paymentâI saw it was bad and gave it to my uncleâI took the other half-crown from the till and found that was also badâhe was given into custody.

THOMAS GIBBS . My niece gave me the two half-crownsâI asked the prisoner where he lived, he said over the Carlton BridgeâI asked where he worked, he said at the gas works, that he was a foreman there, and that he got the half-crowns in change for a half sovereign.

GEORGE HENRY BLAKE (Policeman X 36). I received the prisoner in custody with these two half-crownsâhe said he had only passed one, that he had never had any eggs, and had never been in the shop before.

HENRY WEBSTER . I am Inspector of Coins to the Mintâthese half-crowns are both bad, and from the same mould.

333. HENRY ROOSTAN (17), PLEADED GUILTY to feloniously forging and uttering an endorsement to a cheque for 3l. 13s., with intent to defraud; also to stealing the said chequeâ Twelve Months' Imprisonment.

334. GEORGE HENRY FOWLER (19) , to feloniously breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Thomas Lamborn, and stealing therein a quantity of jewellery and other articlesâ Judgement Respited [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]. And

335. ARTHUR GREAVES (21) , to stealing a ring and other goods, of Samuel Smith and another; also a pair of race glasses, of Tyson Crawfordâ Nine Months' Imprisonment. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]

336. WILLIAM QUIN (40) , Stealing a brooch, two keys, a metal ring and a farthing, of Kate Brown Hinde, from her person.

MR. CHARLES MATTHEWS conducted the Prosecution.

ISAAC GILBERT (City Detective). On 29th April I was in the Poultry, and saw the prisoner there, standing against a hoarding, leaning on his crutch, as a lady passed him I saw him look down at her dress pocket and then follow herâI saw him put his hand between the folds of her dressâI spoke to her, and in consequence of what she said I watched the prisonerâhe repeated it on several occasions, following ladies to and fro in the crowdâon one occasion he turned round and looked at me and said, "We are as thick as thieves here"âI saw an old gentlemen standing with a little girl in front of the Mansion House, pointing out the illuminations to herâit was the night of the Lord Mayor's ballâI saw the prisoner put his hand into the little girl's dress pocket, and then immediately put it into his own right hand trousers pocketâI spoke to the little girl, and called to Kenniston, the officer, he seized the prisoner with one hand and I the other, and pulled from his pocket this bunch of keys, a ring, brooch, and 2s. 5 1/4 d., and three duplicatesâho seized hold of the tail of my coat and said, "How dare you put your hand in my pocket, I will have you locked up"âI said "If you wait a minute I think I shall have you locked up":âI spoke to the little girl, and showed her the things.

Prisoner. Q. Do you know the nature of an oath? A. To speak the truthâI have done soâI did not say that I had been looking after you a long whileâI did not hear you say "Has anybody lost any keys?" or any one tell you to put them in your pocket, and you would find the owner in the morning.

JAMES KENNISTON (City Policeman 334). I was with Gilbert and saw the prisoner follow a ladyâI ultimately saw him put his right hand into the little girl's pocket and draw it out and put it into his own trousers pocketâwe seized him and found these things.

KATE BROWN HINDE . I live with my parents in YorkshireâI am at present residing with my aunt in Westmoreland Street, Maryleboneâon this night I was outside the Mansion HouseâI had in my pocket a ring, a brooch, two keys and a farthingâthese produced are mineâthey were loose in my pocket.

Prisoner. Q. Did you not say at the station that you could not swear to the farthing A. Yes, I did not see you near me.

GUILTY **â Ten Years'' Penal Servitude. He had been twice sentenced to penal servitude, and once to fourteen years' transportation.

338. WILLIAM WILSON (21) , to alike offence; also to having been convicted of felony in January, 1871â Nine Months' Imprisonment. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]

339. WILLIAM BURGESS (24) , to feloniously forging and uttering a request for the delivery of one butt and one hogshead, with intent to defraudâ Judgment Respited [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]. And

340. GEORGE COLLLNSON (21) , to stealing 1l., the moneys of Samuel Mold, having been before convicted in January, 1872**â Fifteen Months Imprisonment. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]

341. ABRAHAM GODSALVE(16), was indicted for wilful and corrupt perjury on a bastardy summons.

MR. POLANDconducted the Prosecution.

GUILTY â Four months' Imprisonment.

342. AMY PRESCOTT (23), and WILLIAM FITZPATRICK (23) , Robbery with violence on Victor Matthew Lafittau, and stealing a watch and chain and scarf pin, his property.

MR. POPHAM PIKE conducted the Prosecution.

VICTOR MATTHEW LAFITTAU . I am a wine merchant, at 97, Jermyn Streetâon the 27th March, I was at the Alhambra Theatre, and after the performance I came out by the back way into Castle Streetâwhile I was walking down Castle Street, the prisoner Prescott ran up to me, put right hand round my neck, and with the left she took my scarf pinâI got hold of her by the shawl and said "You have taken my pin"âshe said she had notâI said "Give me my pin back, and I will let you go"âshe said "I will, if you will let me go"âI then found that my watch chain was hanging downâI said "You have taken my watch," and a man came behind me and said "You let that woman alone"âI caught hold of him and held them bothâhe saw the chain hanging and ho got hold of it with both his hands and pulled it till he got it away, then he began to kick mo to try and get away, and the woman struck me in the face several timesâwe all three fell on the pavementâI held them till the police came and I gave them in chargeâI looked round for my umbrella and my hat, I could not find them and I followed to the station and I saw the man escapeâat the station, the woman Prescott said "I know where the pin and the watch are"âI said "I have no doubt you do"âthe chain was afterwards brought to the station and also my hatâmy watch and chain, and pin were worth about 100l.âI am quite sure the woman was the person, but I am not so sure of the manâto the best of my belief, Fitzpatrick is the man.

Cross-examined by Fitzpatrick. There were a good many people round when I was robbedâI don't swear to you, but I believe you are the manâI was kicked by you if you are the man who was there.

WALTER JONATHAN TURNER . At the time of this robbery I was 36 C in the policeâon the 27th of March, in consequence of information, I went to Bear Street about 12 o'clock at nightâI saw the prosecutor struggling with the two prisonersâhe said the man had stolen his watch, and the woman had stolen his pinâI took them both into custodyâthe woman threw herself down and began kicking and she was very violentâtwo soldiers came up and rescued the manâanother constable came up and with his assistance I took the woman to the stationâshe said there she; knew who had the watchâI went to the House of Detention on 1st of May, and saw Fitzpatrick there, and identified him as the man who was given into custody on the 27th I will swear he is the the man.

WILLIAM OWEN . I live at 14, Prince; Row, New port Marketâon the

evening of 27th March, I was in Bear Street, standing with my baked potatoes machineâI saw the prosecutor as he was leaving the stage door from the Alhambra pass up Castle Street into Bear Streetâthe female prisoner got hold of him by the neckâhe pushed her away and she came to him againâshe put her arm round his neck and took his pinâhe caught hold of her and said "Give me back my pin"âshe said "Go on, you good-for-nothing fellow, don't talk to me like that"âhe said "You have taken my pin, give it me and I will lot you go"âhe got her by the throat up against the shutters, and she said "If you will let me go I will give you your pin"âhe said "No, you give me my pin and then I will let you go"âimmediately after, the male prisoner rushed round the corner and got hold of the prosecutor and tried to rescue the womanâhe said "Don't knock the woman about, let her go"âthe prosecutor caught hold of himâtwo soldiers came along belonging to the Scotch Fusiliers, and somehow the man got awayâI saw the male prisoner strike the prosecutorâI saw them fall, and the prosecutor gut up and said "I have lost my watch and chain"âthe woman struck him two or three times very violently in the faceâI picked up the chain afterwards and sent it to the police station by a publican as I could not leave my ovenâI went to the police station afterwards to identify the male prisonerâI was shown several persons, and I picked out the wrong man firstâthere were eighteen or twenty, and I picked out another man, but when he came into the Police CourtâI knew him better by his curly hair at the backâI recognised him then as the manâthis is the chain I picked up.

JOHN KELLEY . I live at 60, Carlisle Street, Westminster Bridge Roadâon the night of the 27th March I was in Castle Street, coming from the AlhambraâI saw the prosecutor come from the stage doorâI saw him pass up Castle Street, and he was molested by the female prisonerâI was waiting at the stage door for my wifeâI heard the gentleman say "Give me my pin"âshe said "I have not got your pin"âthere was a struggle took place and a large crowd collectedâshe was very violent and kickedâI saw the male prisoner catch hold of the gentleman round the waist, but previous to that he said he had lost his watchâI got hold of the prisoner by the wristâthe gentleman was overpowered by the kicking that he hadâthe policeman came upâtwo soldiers came up then and the policeman was overpowered by them, we had a struggle for about three or four minutes, and the male prisoner got awayâI had an opportunity of seeing him well, and I picked him out of seventeen others in the yards at the Marlborough Street Police Court.

Cross-examined by Fitzpatrick. I did not see any of the property in your handâthere was a mob of people there.

Prescott's Defence. I met the gentleman and asked him to come and give me something to drink, which he would not, and he accused me of robbing him of his pinâI never saw it, and I did not know whether he had got one or notâI saw a man come and take his watch from himâI should' know the man again, but this is not the man, we fell together, there was such a crowd, and one pulled one way and one another, and asked him to let me go, and I said I would see if I could get the watch backâI should know the man if I was to see him.

Fitzpatrick stated that he endeavoured to rescue her from the brutal ill-treatment of a mob of foreigners, but that he was innocent of the robbery.

PRESCOTTâ GUILTY .

She alsoPLEADED GUILTYto having been before convicted in August, 1872**â Seven Years' Penal Servitude.

FITZPATRICK NOT GUILTY .

OLD COURT.âTuesday, May 5th, 1874.

Before Mr. Recorder.

343. AMELIA HILL (24), was indicted for unlawfully obtaining by false pretences, a polonaise and 7l. 18s., of William Whiteley, with intent to defraud.

ISABELLA HENDERSON . I am a saleswoman at Mr. Whiteley's, of Westbourne Groveâon 18th February the prisoner came there and asked to be shown some mantlesâI showed her some, and she bought a brown home spun tweed polonaise, price two guineasâshe gave me to understand that she had bought a bonnet upstairs, she said she had spent all her ready money and would I change a cheque for herâshe had the cheque in her hand, all ready written outâthis is it (produced)âI asked her to endorse itâshe said she had already written her name thereâI asked her to write the address, and was going to get a pen for her, but she took my pencil and wrote "Mitcham," telling me at the same time that she lived at Mitcham, SurreyâI went to the cashier with the chequeâit we receive a cheque from a person who is not a regular customer or not known to us, we always refer to the Directory to see if the name is thereâwe did refer to the Directory for the name of Low, of MitchamâI found the name of Low, and the cashier gave me the change, 7l. 18s., and I gave it to the prisonerâshe gave me the name of Low, Mitcham, Surrey, I thought that was not sufficientâshe said "Oh, my husband is very well known in Mitcham"âshe put on the polonaise and left a black mantle with meâon Friday, 26th March, I went with Dowdell, the constable, to Hanover Square, Kennington Park Road, I there saw the prisoner sitting at the window, with a baby, we went in and a gentleman, who was in the room introduced her as Mrs. TannerâDowdell produced the cheque and asked her if she had ever seen that cheque beforeâshe said no, she did not know anything at all about itâhe asked her if she had ever seen me beforeâshe said "No"âI said that was a mistake, for I-knew her very well, not only by her face, but she had on the same dress and belt that she had when she came to meâI told her so, she said "Oh, it is a mistake"âDowdell gave her the cheque again and told her to look at it wellâshe then said to Mr. Tanner "It is one of Mr. Bradbury's cheques"âMr. Tanner said yes, he believed it was one of his, that he had got him into a great deal of troubleâDowdell said that she had passed a cheque before at Mr. Marsh's she said yes, she had done so, one of the same, but not signed Simcox, but BradburyâDowdell produced the warrant and read it to herâMr. Tanner said she must go, and asked if she could not wait till the following morningâshe asked to go into another roomâDowdell said she could notâshe said she must go with her baby and I must go with herâI did soâshe asked me if Mr. Whiteley would not take the 10l. that Mr. Tanner would rather pay it than she should go to prison.

Cross-examined. The name of Low was endorsed on the cheque at the time she handed it to meâshe pointed it out to me and said "My name is already written"âI did not form any opinion as to whether it was written by a man or a womanâwhen I went into the room at Hanover Square, Mr. Tanner was sitting in the room with the prisoner there was no one

else in the roomâMr. Tanner said he would rather pay the money than she should go, but he did not offer it.

JOHN DOWDELL (Policeman). I took the prisoner into custody on 27th MarchâMiss Henderson was presentâthere was a man in the room who I knew by the name of TannerâI addressed him as Mr. Tannerâhe said "Yes"âand he said "Mrs. Tanner"âI was very politely offered a seatâMrs. Henderson had given me signs that she identified the prisonerâI produced the cheque to the prisonerâI knew her by the name of Miss HillâI asked her if she had ever seen that chequeâshe said "No"âI asked her if she knew Miss Hendersonâshe said "No"âI then produced the warrant and told her that I should take her into custody for uttering a forged cheque for 10l. at Mr. Whiteley's in Westbourne (Grove on 18th Februaryâshe said "I know nothing about it"âsome conversation then took place, and she asked to go into the next roomâI allowed her to do so with Miss Hendersonâwhen the cheque was produced she said it was one of Mr. Bradbury's chequesâTanner looked at it and said it was soâhe also said that Bradbury had been the cause of getting them into a great deal of troubleâI took the prisoner to the stationâshe there gave the name of Amelia Hillâthe charge was read over to herâshe said that she had uttered the cheque at Mr. Whiteley's, but she had received it from Mr. Bradbury, and she thought it was quite right.

Cross-examined. I have made inquiry of Mr. Bradburyâhe is not here.

GEORGE DUNBROW . I am cashier at the Tottenham Court Road branch of the City Bankâno one of the name of Simcox keeps an account there.

Cross-examined. This cheque is on one of our forms, it was issued to a Mr. BradburyâI can't say on what dateâhe had an account there and has still, a very small one, the balance is only a few shillings.

Re-examined. I know Bradbury's writing, this is not his.

FREDERICK LOW . I live at Mitcham, Surrey, and have done so for three yearsâI do not know a Mr. J. A. LowâI do not know the prisoner, I saw her for the first time at the Marylebone Police Courtâshe is no connection of my familyâMr. Joseph Low who is present is the only other person of the name that I know of at Mitcham.

ALFRED JOSEPH LOW . I live at Mitcham, Surrey, and have done so about four yearsâI do not know of any other family of that name, except the last witnessâI know nothing of the prisonerâshe is not a member of our familyâI have never seen her before.

SUGAN SMITH . I live at the Laurels, Cheshuntâon 18th February, the prisoner was living at my house, a man named Tanner was there occasionallyâhe was not there on 18th Februaryâthe prisoner left home that morning and returned the same dayâwhen she left she had on a dark blue dress and a black mantle, when she returned she had on a new brown tweed polonaise.

Cross-examined. She came to me on the 22nd JanuaryâMr. Tanner took the rooms, and he stayed there with her, on and off, while she was thereâI did not see any one there named BradburyâI could not say exactly how shortly before the 18th February Tanner had been there, a week or ten days perhaps, or moreâI don't think she had a letter that morningâwe have no post at night.

WILLIAM WIMPERIS . I am a jeweller, of 32, Davies Street, Berkeley

SquareâI knew the prisoner some years ago as Amelia HillâI knew her mother, Mrs. Hill.

JOHN DOWDELL , (re-examined). On the 24-th I found a letter at Cheshunt from Tanner, written in pencil, dated the 17th, and another dated the 24th, posted in London.

MR. STRAIGHThere stated (that it was hopeless to contest the facts, but requested that judgment might be postponed, the prisoner undertaking to give information with respect to Tanner.

GUILTY .â Judgment Respited.

344. JOHN JENNINGS (35) , Robbery with violence on George Tilley, and stealing a watch, chain and seal, his property.

MR. ST. AUBYNconducted the Prosecution.

GEORGE TILLEY . I am a contractor, living at Paddingtonâon 11th April, I was at a house in Goswell Street with my foremanâthe prisoner came up to me, punched me in the stomach and took my watch and chain, and tried to get awayâI and my foreman laid hold of him and kept him till a policeman came upâthere were two more besides the prisoner outside the door, but they did not come inside.

JOHN CROLEY . I am foreman to the prosecutorâI was with him between 6 and 7 o'clock on this eveningâhe came to pay his men, after which we walked into a public-house to have a glass of aleâthe prisoner and another came partly in the doorway, the prisoner deliberately walked up to Mr. Tilley, thumped him in the belly and took his watch and guardâI up with my fist and knocked him down and kept him till the policeman came up.

JOHN KILCOZN (Policeman G 159). I received the prisoner in custody, and produce the watch and chain.

GUILTY .

He alsoPLEADED GUILTYto a previous conviction in July, 1867**â Ten Years Penal Servitude.

345. FREDERICK WEBBER (26) , Stealing a watch and chain of Frederick Keen, from his person.

MR. SMITHconducted the Prosecution; andMR. SIMSthe Defence.

FREDERICK KEEN . I am a waiter, at 16, Edward Street, Stepneyâon Sunday night, 26th April, about 11.15 I had occasion to leave my son at the corner and go to a urinalâas I came out the prisoner pushed against me and I found that my watch and chain was goneâI pursued him about 100 yards and caught him at the top of George StreetâI said "Where is my watch and chain"âhe said "Here it is," and handed it to meâat that moment a policeman came up and took him into custody.

Cross-examined. I had been to see a friend and had taken a little refreshmentâI had not taken more than to know what I was aboutâI did not see any persons playing aboutâthe prisoner gave up the watch immediatelyâhe did not attempt to get away afterwardsâthe constable was close upon him.

ROBERT EASTBORN (City Policeman 664). I was on duty in Lombard StreetâI heard a cry of "Police!" ran across and found the prosecutor holding the prisonerâhe said "Here is your watch and chain, take it"âI took him to the station, he made no answer to the charge.

The prisoner received an excellent character, and his father engaged to employ him at once.â Two Days' Imprisonment.

346. CHARLES WOOD (20) , Stealing a watch of Walter George Rammage, from his person.

WALTER GEORGE RUMMAGE . I live at 5. George Terrace, Peckhamâon 22nd April, I was on Tower Hill, about 3.30 in the dayâI had a watch in my pocket, with a guard attachedâI had just looked at itâI saw the prisoner near meâI missed my watch directlyâhe went across the road, I followed himâhe asked somebody the way to London Bridge, and went into a public-houseâI followed him and caught him by the arm, he threw me in a corner and ran outâI called "Stop thief!" and saw him stopped by the policeman.

Cross-examined. There was a crowdâI was just outside the crowd, and prisoner came on my left side and walked with mo towards the crowdâI did not lose sight of him at all, from first to last, only just for half a minute as he turned the corner.

HENRY TAYLOR (City Policeman 799). The prisoner was given into my custodyâhe said he went into the public-house to light his pipe.

NOT GUILTY .

347. WILLIAM FIELD (37), PLEADED GUILTY to stealing five plated spoons and a variety of articles, of John Ring and another, his mastersâ Twelve Months Imprisonment.

348. HENRY MASON (34) , to a burglary in the dwelling-house of Maria Halse, and stealing a watch and other articles, after a previous conviction in July, 1868**â Ten Years' Penal Servitude. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]And

349. WILLIAM GARRETT (44) , to a burglary in the dwelling-house of William Summerfield, and stealing one dress and other articles**â Ten Years' Penal Servitude.

NEW COURT.âTuesday, May 5th, 1874.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

350. THOMAS JONES (22) , Robbery with, violence on Harry Sherman, and stealing from his person, one watch, his property.

MR. GRIFFITHSconducted the Prosecution.

After the commencement of the, case, MR. MONTAGU WILLIAMSfor the prisoner, stated that he could not contend against the evidence, and therefore had advised the prisoner to

PLEAD GUILTY , and the prisoner having in the hearing of the Jury admitted his guilt, they found a verdict of

GUILTY . The prisoner was also charged with having been before convicted at this Court, in August, 1870, in the name of Thomas Latham, to which he

352. EDWARD JAMES BARBER McVICAR (26) , to feloniously forging and uttering two orders for the payment of 400l., and 450l., with intent to defraud. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.](See next case).

353. EDWARD JAMES BARBER McVICAR was again indicted with ELIZABETH TALBOT (20), for feloniously forging and uttering an order fur the payment of 15l., with intent to defraud.

McVICAR PLEADED GUILTY.

MR. BESLEYconducted the Prosecution; andMR. MONTAGU WILLIAMS

defended Talbot.

ROBERT CROSS . I am a Commissionaireâon the 3rd of March I was at the Burlington Restaurant, in Regent StreetâI saw the female prisoner there about noonâshe was in the shopâthere was no one with herâshe asked me to take a note to 10, Charles Street, and to ask for Mr. Lawrie, and wait for an answerâshe gave me the note, and I went to Mr. Lawrie's, 10, Charles StreetâI saw Mr. Ainsworth there, and he opened the note and took out a paperâhe put some bank notes in an envelope and gave it to me, and I took them backâwhen I got back the female prisoner was gone, but she came back in about half-an-hour and I delivered to her what I had received from the bankâshe gave me a shilling and went away.

Cross-examined. When the note was given to me it was folded up and I did not know what was insideâI did not notice who was outside the Burlington when I came out.

LAWRENCE AINSWORTH . I am a cashier in the office of Mr. Andrew Lawrie, Army Agent, at 10, Charles Streetâon 3rd March, the witness Cross brought me a noteâthis was the envelope, and this was the enclosure Read: ''Please give bearer notes for the enclosed. J. Talbot."âthis cheque was enclosed, "London, 27th February, 1874." "Please pay Mrs. J. Talbot or order 45l. A. Lawrie, Esq., 10, Charles Street, St. James's" (Signed). "Col. Eveleigh"âwe had a customer of that nameâhe was a Colonel in the Army Service Corps, and had an account with Mr. Lawrie for many yearsâI opened the envelope in Mr. Lawrie's absence and found the enclosure, and after consideration I determined to pay itâan envelope was enclosed, addressed to Mrs. J. Talbot, and I enclosed the bank notes in that and gave it to the CommissionaireâI put in two 10l. notes and live fivesâI was acquainted with Colonel Eveleigh's handwriting, and this is a very good imitation, I think.

Cross-examined, The male prisoner had been a clerk in Mr. Lawrie's employment sometime ago.

WILLIAM HERBERT STONE . I am a hall porter, at the Pall Mall Restaurant; 14, Regent Streetâon the 24th March, just before midday the female prisoner came into the Restaurant to the ground floorâshe was aloneâshe asked for a glass of wine, I told the waiter to give it her and she sat downâshe asked me if I could go a messageâI told her I could t was not a long distanceâshe gave me an envelope without an address, and told me to take it to Mr. Lawrie's, 10, Charles Street, St. James's, and wait for an answerâI went with it, and gave it to Mr. AinsworthâI remained there half-an-hourâMr. Ainsworth asked me who sent it, and I told himâI saw Little child, the detective sergeant, and we went back to the Restaurantâthe female prisoner was then in the passageâthere was no one with her then.

LAWRENCE AINSWORTH (re-called.) On the 24th March, three weeks after I had given notes for the other cheque, Stone brought this envelope to me, and I found this cheque insideâI determined to communicate with Colonel Eveleigh before paying it, and I seat a messenger to himâI detained Stone and sent for a sergeant and he went to the Pall Mall Restaurantâone of the 10l. notes which I gave for the 45l. cheque was numbered "09,819, 8th November, 1873."

JOHN GEORGE LITTLECHILD (Detective Sergeant). On the 24th March,

about noon, I was called to Mr. Lawrie's place of business, at 10, Charles StreetâI found Stone waiting there, and from what he said I gave him this envelope, let him go, and followed himâhe went to the Pall Mall RestaurantâI waited for a short time, and the female prisoner came in, and Stone walked to her and gave her the envelopeâI went to her and showing her the cheque, I asked her if she had sent it down to Mr. Lawrie'sâshe said "Yes"âI asked her where she got it fromâshe said that Colonel Eveleigh gave it to herâI said "Why it is not a man's handwriting"âshe said "No, I wrote the body of the cheque and Colonel Eveleigh signed it"âI asked her where he signed it and she said "At Victoria Street"âthat being the address of Colonel EveleighâI took her thereâshe had described Colonel Eveleigh as a tall man with black whiskers and moustacheâI took her to 109, Victoria Street, and when she saw Colonel Eveleigh she said as not the gentleman who gave her the chequeâI asked her about the cheque for 45l., and said it appeared to be in the same handwritingâshe said "Oh, I had that money, and cashed the notes at the Bank of England "âshe said she had been to Paris with a friend, and had spent the moneyâshe gave me an address at 101, Camberwell Roadâshe told me she met a gentleman who said he was Colonel Eveleigh at Piccadilly Circus, and he took her to 109, Victoria Street, and she pointed out the room where he had taken her and signed the chequeâthe room she pointed out was opposite Colonel Eveleigh's officeâshe did not say how long she remained with himâwhen the charge was taken, she said she was a single woman.

HENRY WILSON HAZLEGROVE . I am a clerk in the Bank of EnglandâI produce a 10l. note No. 09,819, 8th November, 1873âon the front is written "Clara Hatfield, 101, Camberwell RoadâI produce the other notes making up the 45l.âthey were all cashed at the same time.

JOHN LANE . I live at 7, Kilburn RoadâI let a portion of my house to the two prisoners, on the 5th of Februaryâthey lived there about six weeks under the name of Mr. and Mrs. Denman.

Cross-examined. They were living as husband and wife.

DANIEL DAVEY (Detective Sergeant). I took McVicar into custody on 2nd April, at 7, Kilburn Roadâthe other prisoner was in custody at that time.

Cross-examined. I said "I shall charge you with being concerned with a woman named Talbot in forging"âhe said "You mean my wife, what she did she did under my direction; I am the responsible party."

Re-examined. I said he was also charged with others in a forgery for 400l., and one for 450l.âI said "I am going to search the house for the cheque-book"âhe said "Why"âI said "I am a stranger to the case, and I presume the forgeries were committed upon cheques, and he said "No, they were committed on half a sheet of paper similar to this"âpointing to one at the same timeâthe female prisoner's friends gave me information which led to his arrest.

FREDERICK CHARLES EVELEIGH . I was in the armyâthese two cheques are forgeriesâI occupy a portion of 109, Victoria StreetâI was present when the woman was shown the two roomsâthe first room she was brought into was my office, and she seemed not quite to make up her mind that was the room that the paper was signed in or notâI took her into another office and she said that was the officeâColonel Sheringham occupied that officeâit was immediately opposite mineâshe said it was signed in the

afternoon, about 3 o'clockâthat room is occupied in the day time generally by Colonel Sherringham, but at that time he was on leave, and there was a messenger of mine sat there to answer my call and no one could have gone in there without his seeing itâshe said I was not the gentleman.

MR. WILLIAMSsubmitted that as the case at present stood the inference was that the female prisoner acted under the coercion of her husband; he was prepared if necessary to prove the marriage.MR. COMMISSIONER KERRwas of opinion that such proof was necessary.

MR. WILLIAMScalled the following witnesses.

REV. WILLIAMS DOUGLAS . I was curate of the Parish Church of St. Paul, Deptfordâthis certificate is in my handwritingâI don't remember the parties that were married so as to identify them.

Cross-examined. I recollect the man coming, but I could not swear to himâI remember him coming to me two or three years after for a memorandum for a passport, which I gave himâhe gave the name of Edward James Mc Vicar.

ALEXANDER McVICAR . I am the brother of the male prisonerâI know the female prisoner by the name of Theresa Maria PervinclerâI was not present at the marriage, but they have been living together as man and wife.

Cross-examined. That is since the date of the marriageâit was last September twelve months I believeâbefore that I had seen her for a few-month's at New Cross and Lewisham, and different places.

MARIA MULLEN . I am aunt of the female prisonerâher maiden name was Theresa Maria PervinclerâI was present at her marriage with the prisoner at St. Paul's, Deptford. (" The certificate was dated the 23rd September, 1872, and was the certificate of a marriage solemnized at the Parish Church, St. Paul, Deptford, in the County of Kent, between Edward James McVicar, bachelor, and Theresa Maria Pervincler, spinster")

THE JURYfound that the prisoner was a willing agent under her husband, and acted in collusion with him.MR. COMMISSIONER KERRdid not feel quite sure whether this amounted to a verdict of guilty or not, but after consultingTHE RECORDERhe was of opinion that the finding of the Jury did amount to a verdict of guilty, that the fact of her being a willing agent excluded anything like coercion.

GUILTY â Two Years' Imprisonment.

McVICARâ Five Years' Penal Servitude.

354. WILLIAM BULL (54) , Embezzling and stealing 5s. 7d., 1s. 3d., and 2s. received by him on account of Frederick Bateman, his master.

MR. COLLINSconducted the Prosecution; andMR. STRAIGHTthe Defence.

GEORGE EDWARD CHALKLEY . I am clerk to Messrs. Crook & Smith, solicitors, at 173, Fenchurch StreetâMr. Bateman's shop is in Ship Tavern Passageâbetween 5 and 6 o'clock, after receiving certain instructions I went to Mr. Bateman's shopâthe prisoner was thereâI bought 2 1/2 lbs. of salmon and paid 5s. 7d. to the prisonerâI gave him two half-crowns and a two (shilling piece, and he gave me 1s. 5d. changeâthese (produced) are the three coins I paid to the prisonerâI marked themâhe put them in his pocket when I gave them to him.

Cross-examined. He put the money in his pocket, and gave me the change out of his pocketâMr. Crook gave me the moneyâMr. Bateman was not at the office when the money was given to meâI don't think ho had been thereâI took the salmon back to the officeâI did not give it to Mr. CrookâI saw Mr. Crookâhe left the office about three quarters of an

hour afterwards, but I have not the slightest idea where he went before I was called in, and the money given to me by Mr. CrookâI had heard nothing about purchasing the salmon.

HENRY JAMES McDONALD . I am a clerk to Mr. Crook, and in consequence of certain instructions, between 5 and 6 o'clock, on the afternoon of 10th April, I went to Mr. Bateman's shopâI saw the prisoner and purchased three soles, for which I paid 1s. 3d.âI paid with a half-crownâI can't actually identify the half-crown, but I do identify one of the marked piecesâMr. Crook gave me the money and instructed me to buy the fish.

Cross-examined. The prisoner put the half-crown in his pocketâhe had an apron round himâhe took the soles from a slab in the frontâI did not give them to Mr. CrookâI put them in the officeâI don't know what became of them.

JOHN ARCHER . I am a superannuated detective officerâI was sent to the prosecutor's shop about 5.50, on the 10th AprilâI purchased four mackerelâI gave the prisoner a half-crown and received 6d. changeâI had been watching the shop from about 5.5 till the time I went inâI saw four or five people go in besides McDonaldâI did not notice Chalkleyâthe people came out with small baskets.

Cross-examined. He took the four mackerel from the sideboard in the shop.

FREDERICK BATSMAN . I am a fishmonger, at 5, Ship Tavern Passage, in the Cityâthe prisoner has been my foreman about ten years, and he was about twenty years in the service of my fatherâI trusted him with buying and selling fishâif he received money it was his duty to put it on the desk and account for it when I came down at 6 o'clock in the eveningâI am in very bad healthâI generally attend to business from 9 o'clock till 1, and from 5 o'clock till about 7 in the eveningâthe prisoner bought the fish in the morning and I paid him for it afterwardsâhe had lent me 20l. sometime beforeâI had paid him 5l. and I owe him 15l. nowâbefore the 10th of April I consulted Mr. Crook, my solicitor, and on that day I left the shop from 5 to 6 o'clockâI left the prisoner 30s. in a drawer for changeâif he sold fish while I was away, it was his duty to put the money on the desk and to account to me for the fish that had been soldâI knew that the clerks and the police officer were about to buy fish at my shopâI returned to the shop at 6 o'clock, and there was 7s. 6d. on the deskâ4s. 6d. was for fish sold in the morning, and 3s. was also on the deskâMr. Crook came about 7.45 as the prisoner was about to leave, and Mr. Crook asked him to come upstairsâI can't recollect what was said, of course Mr. Crook made allusions to the fish that was sold, but I can't say for certain what he saidâthe prisoner asked me to have mercy on him, and that he was guiltyâhe said that in the presence of Mr. Crookâthe prisoner said that was all the fish he had sold to the value of 3s.âthat was on the deskâI don't think he said anything about the 4s. 6d.âI have no recollection of it.

Cross-examined. I did not say anything before the magistrate about bis asking for mercy, and saying that he was guilty, but I know he said soâMr. Crook was conducting the prosecution for me before the magistrate, and he heard the conversationâI was examined by himâI owe the prisoner 15l. more than the 15l. he lent meâ. on the morning of the day when I gave him into custody he had paid for the day's fish, and half the fish of the day beforeâhe would have had the money eventuallyâit is 30l. I owe himâhe had paid

for most of the fish that was in the shop for sale that dayâwe ought to do a good business in the evening, between 5 and 6 o'clockâI had been in the shop myself up to about 1 o'clock that dayâI left about 1.30 for dinner, and I came back about 4 o'clock in the afternoon, and I stopped about half an hourâI knew pretty well what fish was in the shopâthe soles were on the slab for sale when I went awayâI did not go round to see Mr. Crook when I left that afternoonâmy wife didâI had made an arrangement about marking the money with Mr. Crook, and it was in consequence of that arrangement that the two clerks and the superannuated policeman went and bought fishâthe prisoner was left by himself, between 5 and 6 o'clock, and that is very often the time when people come and get fish who are going away by the trainâit was my suggestion that Mr. Crook should call the prisoner up.

WILLIAM CROOK . I was consulted by Mr. Bateman about this supposed embezzlement, and it was by instructions that my clerks went and bought fish, and from information I received I afterwards went to Mr. Bateman's shop, and as the prisoner was about leaving I requested him to go upstairs into a private roomâMr. Bateman came tooâI asked the prisoner what money he had taken for fish sold between 3 and 6 o'clockâhe replied that he had taken 3s. in ready money, and 4s. 6d. for a parcel of fish sold in the morningâI then told him he must have made some mistake and that he had taken more moneyâhe replied that he had not done soâI then said "Did you not receive 5s. 7d. for 2 lbs. of salmon"âafter some little hesitation he said he hadâhe denied having received anything else and said he must by some mistake have put the money into his own pocketâI told him we knew he had sold other fish, and he said he had notâI said that we must call in a police-constable and give him into custodyâhe said "I beg you won't do so on account of my wife and family"âI said the fish had been bought and paid for with marked moneyâhe replied he was sure it could not have been so, that he had received no more money than he had stated, and he had offered to turn out the money in his pocketâhe did so, and Mrs. Bateman, who was then present pointed out the two half-crowns and two shilling piece as being marked moneyâa constable was fetched and he was given into custody and money was given to the constable.

Cross-examined. I provided my clerks with the money to buy the fishâI shall undoubtedly charge the prosecutor with thatâI was first consulted by the prosecutor's wife the previous afternoon, and she had been round that very afternoon.

GEORGE WHITE (City Policeman 779). On 10th April, I was called into Mr. Bateman's shop and took the prisoner into custody, and the money produced was given to me.

JULIA APLIN . I live at 12, Bateman's BuildingsâI knew the prisoner eighteen months before he married Eliza O'Connor, and I have known him since and her tooâshe is a laundressâI was present on the 14th April, 1873, when they were married at St. James's Church, PiccadillyâI signed the register.

Prisoner. This woman said before the magistrate that I represented I was a single man. WitnessâI said I thought you were a single man.

WILLIAM PETSALL . I am a music engraver and live at 4, Chain Terrace, EdinburghâI knew the prisoner at Edinburgh, about nine years agoâon the 30th April, 1867,1 was present when he married Mary Ambrose at her sister's houseâI don't know all the witnesses, but I brought the minister to the house in a cabâI saw her last Saturday nightâshe was then alive.

Prisoner. You know this marriage would never have happened but for a child in the way, you know there never was any engagementâshe came to my sister's house and tormented me thereâit was God's spirit within me that forced me to it, and the people without meâI was tried by the spirit within and the people without, and I was obliged to succumbâGod's spirit is the culprit and not meâI have been led by God's spirit all my life time, and I never was amenable to the lawâit was God's spirit that forced me into itâmy body was only a passive instrument in the hands of that spirit.

HENRY DAWSON (Detective Officer C). I took the prisoner on the 24th March, and told him he was charged with bigamyâhe said "I know all about it, the woman is as bad as me, she made me drunk and put the banns up three times and then married me"âI produce a certificate which I have compared at the Register House at Edinburgh, and also one from St. James's, Piccadillyâthey are true copies.

The prisoner put in a written defence stating that he had lived with O'Connor for some time before he married her, that she spoke threateningly and said he must marry he)', and he was frightened into it by the spirit within him and the people without, and was obliged to succumb, and that she knew he was a married man.

GUILTY â Two Years' Imprisonment.

OLD COURT.âWednesday, May 6th, 1874.

Before Mr. Baron Cleasby.

356. JAMES GODWIN (27), was indicted for the wilful murder of Louisa Godwin, to which he

PLEADED GUILTY â DEATH .

In the case of SARAH NEWMAN , indicted for the wilful murder of Jane Newman, the July, upon the evidence ofMR. JOHN ROWLAND GIBSON, surgeon of Newgate, found the prisoner insane and unfit to plead.âOrdered to be detained until Her Majesty's pleasure be known.

NEW COURT.âWednesday, May 6th, 1874.

Before Mr. Baron Pollock.

357. JOHN WILLIAMS (34), (a militiaman), Unlawfully taking Annie Adams, a girl under the age of 16, out of her father's possession.

MR. ST. AUBYNconducted the Prosecution.

ANNIE ADAMS . I live with my parents, and shall be sixteen next Juneâtwo months ago I was living at a public-house in Charles Street, Golden Square, and the prisoner was potman thereâhe wanted to take liberties with me, and tried to throw me on the groundâhe also asked me to go away with him, but I told him I would not, and went home and lived with my motherâthe prisoner came to see me thereâI told him that my mother did not want him there, and he said he would not comeâhe asked me to go and see him on Sunday, and when I went he asked me to stay with himâthat was Sunday, 19th April, at his lodging, 88, Gray's Inn RoadâI staved with him three days, and he wanted me to go on the streetsâI did

not sleep with himâAda Ward was there all the timeâhe wanted to send us on the streets, and we got a lodging at a coffee shopâhe was away on guard on the Monday nightâhe is in the Militiaâhe has never had connection with meâmy father fetched me away from the house on the Wednesday.

COURT. Q. Did you know when you went to him that Ada Ward was with him? A. Yes, as his wifeâshe was there firstâhe told me that he should keep us like ladies, and that he had a private incomeâhe said that if gentlemen took us home we were to take their watches and pins, and we were not to dispose of them, but bring them home to him.

RICHARD ADAMS . I am the father of the last witnessâshe will be sixteen next JuneâI first saw the prisoner three weeks ago, when he came to my placeâI remember my daughter leaving homeâI went on the Wednesday morning and found her at 88, Gray's Inn Road with the prisoner and Ada WardâI had not given him permission to take her away, neither had I previously spoken to him.

ANN ADAMS . I am the mother of this girlâshe will be sixteen next Juneâwhen the prisoner came to the house I told him that I did not want himâhe said that he wondered I did not send him away on many occasionsâI heard from the children that he was always there when I was absentâI never heard him speak about the girlâhe used to swear against young girls to blind meâI never gave him permission to take her away.

ADA WARD . I live at 4, James Street, PaddingtonâI know the prosecutrixâthe prisoner asked both her and me to go and live with him, and he said he would keep us like ladiesâthat was about a fortnight ago, and he said that if Annie could not come I was to comeâwe were both to go together to his house on Saturday, the 18th, but after I got ready Annie was not able to goâhe came down to fetch us both, but Annie was not ready to goâI went with him, and Annie came on the Sunday to teaâhe went to fetch herâhe said that we were to go out on the streets, and if gentlemen asked us to go home with them we were to go, especially if they were intoxicated, and we were to take their watches; and that we were to go to Regent Circus and the Marble Arch.

Prisoner. Q. When was it I asked you to go and live with me? A. You asked me many times, we could not go out at all without you were after usâyou saw me four or five times.

ALFRED COLE . I live at 88, Gray's Inn RoadâI let a furnished room to the prisoner, and he said that on 18th April he should bring his wife thereâon that day Ada Ward came in a cab with her boxâI asked her her name, and she said "Mrs. Williams"âshe waited an hour and a half till the prisoner came inâI was out when Annie Adams came, but I believe she came in as a sisterâI saw her come out of my side door on the Mondayâthe prisoner was given in charge in my absenceâI am out all day.

JOSEPH WILKES (Policeman G 234). On Wednesday, 23rd April, about 11.30 I took the prisoner at 88, Gray's Inn RoadâMrs. Adams charged him with taking away her daughter against her willâhe said "I know nothing about her, this is my wife, pointing to Ada Ward," ask Ada about herâthere were a great many words between the mother and the prisoner and the girlsâon the way to the station, the prisoner said "I have been living in service with this young woman, and became very fond of her and that is the reason she came to me, and in a very short time I was going to marry her."

The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate: "I deny the charge of telling her to go on the streets. I did not take either of them from home, they came of their own account."

The prisoner produced a written defence, stating that the prosecutrix gave her age as eighteen, when she took the situation, that she had stolen several articles from lodgers in the public-house, that he took pity upon her and was foolish enough to take her home until he could marry her; that she went out with Ada Ward, and he told them to be sure and not stay out late, but that they did not come home till 10.30 the next morning, when they said that they had slept at an hotel with two darling swells. GUILTY .â Eighteen Months Imprisonment

THIRD COURT.âWednesday 6th, 1874.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

358. WALTER LEE HADLEY (20), PLEADED GUILTY to feloniously breaking and entering the warehouse of George McKenzie, and stealing four tankards, also to embezzling in the county of Surrey various sums of money of George Stares, and stealing 2l. 2s. 6d. of Thomas Herbert Powler, his master**â Twelve Months' Imprisonment.

359. WILLIAM HENRY DEAN (21) , Stealing a portmanteau, two towels and other articles, the property of Sir George Samuel Jenkinson.

MR. COOPERconducted the Prosecution; andMR. SETH SMITHthe Defence.

EDWARD LEE . I am valet to Sir George Samuel Jenkinson, of 43, St. James's Placeâon the evening of 18th February, about 10.20 I arrived at Paddington Terminus and engaged a" four-wheeled cabâI put this portmanteau (produced) on the top of it, against the railâthe portmanteau and the articles inside it are my master's propertyâI packed them myselfâI told the cabman to drive to 43, St. James's Placeâas I passed the Marble Arch I noticed that the time was 10.25âwe went on and turned down Upper Brook Street, and as we crossed Park Street, the cab turned round and galloped up Park Street towards Oxford StreetâI called to the cabman and he pointed to a cart going along Park Street, and said that the portmanteau was taken off the topâwe drove after the cart, along Bayswater Road, it turned up a side street and we lost sight of itâI went to the John Street Police Station and gave informationâI was afterwards sent for to Notting Hill Station, where I saw and identified the portmanteau.

Cross-examined. I saw the cart in the distance going up Park StreetâI did not see the portmanteau in itâI could not distinguish who was in the cart, it was too far off.

WILLIAM BRYANT . I live at 96, Stanhope Street, Hampstead Road and am a cab driverâI was the cabman that nightâI put that portmanteau on the top of my cab at the Paddington Station and secured it with a chain in the usual way, with a hookâI drove on till I came to the crossing in Park Street and Brook Streetâa woman called out "Cabman"âI looked behind me and saw the portmanteau being lifted into a cart over the tailboardâthe cart was just being started as I turned roundâthe horse's head was towards Oxford Streetâtwo men were lifting the portmanteau in and there was one man sitting in the cartâthe cart went on rapidly, and the two men walked awayâI immediately turned round and galloped after the cart up Park Streetâat the corner of Oxford Street I was stopped by an omnibus and the curt got ahead it was a dark green cart with wings over the

wheels, a low tailboard, and a grey horseâI afterwards saw the horse and cart in the custody of the policeâI could not recognise any of the men.

ALFRED YOUNG (Policeman X 215). About 12.20 on the morning of 19th February I saw a green cart and a grey horse in Talbot Road, Notting HillâActing Sergeant Hannah came up and posted me in the area of 28, Colville Square, but nothing came of itâI remained there till I was relieved by Sergeant Brennanâwe were watching the cart anticipating that somebody would come for itâit was standing in the Talbot Road and no one was with itâI afterwards lifted the rug that was in the cart and saw tin's portmanteauâthe cart and horse were taken to the station.

ROBERT HANNAH (Police Sergeant X 249). About 12.15 on the morning of 9th February my attention was called to a horse and cart in the Talbot RoadâI examined the cart and found the portmanteau in itâI afterwards met Sergeant Brennan and made a communication to himâConstable Young had charge of the cart.

HENRY ETHELRED WEST . I live at 95a, Brandon Street, Walworth Road and am manager to Sarah Elizabeth Westâshe lets out carts and horsesâon the 18th February about 4 o'clock in the afternoon the prisoner came with another man to our placeâthe other man hired a horse and cartâhe gave the name of George WilliamsâI made a note of it at the timeâI am sure the prisoner was one of themâI afterwards saw the horse and cart at the stationâthat was the same horse and cart that I had letâthey were to return the same night, but they did notâI had seen the prisoner with the other man before, on one or two occasions.

Cross-examined. It was the other man who hired the cartâand on the former occasions tooâthey had been together beforeâI never had any dealings with the prisoner or took any money from himâthe other man said the cart was for travelling purposes and he paid me.

WILLIAM PATRICK (Detective Officer P). On the afternoon of 19th March I saw the prisoner in a public-house in Blackfriars Roadâwhen I went in he tried to get off his seat and go outâhe knew me quite wellâI stopped him and told him I should take him in custody for stealing a portmanteau in Oxford Streetâhe said "All right, I don't know anything about it"âon the way to the station he said "I was at work"âI did not tell him the dateâI searched him and found a knife and keyâhe was placed amongst a number of other men and West picked him out.

Cross-examined. He picked him out as the man who had been with Williams and had hired the cart.

NOT GUILTY .

FOURTH COURT.âMay 8th, 1874.

Before Mr. Recorder.

360. WILLIAM HENNESSEY (49) , Feloniously forging and uttering a cheque for 21l. 12s., with intent to defraud.

MESSRS. F. H. LEWIS and SOLESBYconducted the Prosecution.

MARTIN TUPPER HOOD . I am managing director of the United Club and Hotel Company, Charles Street, St. James'sâthe prisoner was secretary to the companyâhe had been so since May, 1872âit was part of his duty to bring out accounts before the board and receive cheques, pay them, and reproduce receiptsâI recollect a cheque for 21l. 12s. being drawn on the 15th October, 1873, for Messrs. Bass and Co.âit was given to the prisonerâI produce a document purporting to be a receipt from Messrs. Bass and Co. for the amountâa cheque was also drawn on the 20th of

August of the same year for 16l. 4s.âthat cheque was also given to the prisoner, and I produce the paper purporting to be the receiptâhe produced the receipt to the board meetingâthere was also a cheque for 16l. 4s., dated the 19th February, 1873, payable to Messrs. Bass and Co.âthat was also given to the prisonerâI produce the paper purporting to be a receipt from Messrs. Bass and Co.

Cross-examined by the prisoner. You were strongly recommended by Sir Anthony Rothschildâhe sent his private secretary to recommend youâvery probably I took you to the secretary's officeâI gave you the key of the iron safeâit contained all the books, ledger, cash books, journal and bank booksâI also had a duplicate key, and I had access to it at all timesâI cannot swear that those receipts were signed by you.

ByTHE COURT. If they do not appear in the agenda-book they did appear in the book of vouchers kept by the prisoner and produced by him to the auditors, by whom they were tickedâthose papers have been gummed in and extracted from the book to produce in CourtâI have not a distinct recollection of any one of them in particular being produced by the prisoner to me.

By the prisoner. Mr. Hood had always that voucher-book before himâI had the board's minute-bookâI read and he ticked it offâhe cannot find it in the agenda-book or in the board's minute-bookâthe accounts that had to be produced to the board he checked, and another director signed the cheque that had been prepared by the prisonerâit certainly was not customary to draw cheques for bills that did not appear in the usual course on the agenda-bookâthe bill does not appear on the agenda-bookâI cannot tax my memory with any such conduct as having made or caused to be made in the board's minute-book resolutions purporting to have been passed by the whole board of directors, which never had been passed; I never did that I know ofâthe minute headed "Reduction of interest on mortgage, re-appointment of managing directors," was passed by the board, but it was not entered in the minute-book at the time because the precise wording of it was left to me to prepare, and it would be confirmed at the following meetingâon one occasion I drew a cheque out of the Union Bank with the sanction of the principal directorâit was the occasion when a sum of 480l. was taken out to obtain possession of jewellery which had been pawned by a customer of our hotel, and which he was going to deposit with the company as security for the payment of a debt he had incurred at the hotelâthe company had a deposit account at the Union Bankâat the time the 480l. was drawn out, the company had a deposit of 1,000l. there, or two deposits of 500l. eachâon the 15th October there was a deposit at the bank of 1,000l.; on the 29th October there was a deposit at the bank of 1.000/.; on the 12th November, 1,000/.; on the 20th November, 1,000/.; on the 10th December, 1,000l.âon the 14th January it had disappeared altogetherâthe cheque for 480l., which I believe I have in my pocket, was drawn on the 20th October, 1873âat that time there was a deposit of 1,000l., and the 480l. was drawn out of the current accountâno cheque has been drawn for 49l. 19s. for Shaper & Co., but there is an account from Mr. Shaper for 49l. 19s.âI drew no invoice out for Shaper & Co.âthere was a memorandum drawn out in my handwritingâsome six months ago Mr. Shaper borrowed some money from me, and he gave rue the security of 50 dozen of wine, and as I had no other police to put it I put it in the hotel cellars; it remained there for some

monthsâMr. Shaper was then unable to pay the money, and he gave me the liberty to consume the wine, and so repay myself out of the proceedsâMr. Shaper has now given me the bill, which is the amount to be paid to him in order that he may refund the money to meâsome of the trades-people who have furnished accounts have done work for me, but that work has not been included in the Hotel Company's bill; most distinctly not.

JAMES HILLS . I am chief clerk to Messrs. Bass & Co., brewers, King's Road, St. Pancrasâthese three receipts for 16l. 4s., 21l. 12s. and 16l. 4s. are signed "James Hills"ânone of them are in my handwritingâthis is not our stamp; we use a special stamp of our ownâthe amounts have not been paid to our firmâI do not know the prisonerâI never saw him before I saw him at Marlborough Street.

THOMAS PILKINGTON TYLEIGH . I was collector for Messrs. Bass & Co., and latterly I knew Henessy as secretary to the Hotel and Club CompanyâI called several times at the offices of the club for payment of the monies due to Bass & Co.âthe first time I called must have been somewhere about November of last yearâsince that period and March of this year I should think I have called three timesâthe prisoner said to me in reference to them that a cheque should be drawn at the next board meetingâI called again after he made that statement and he paid me a cheque in Januaryâthere were several amounts remaining undueâhe asked me if I could let him have separate accounts, having delivered previously an account of the whole debtâthe receipt stamp on none of these documents is at all like that we use; ours is much larger.

ByTHE COURT. I cannot say whether I called for any of the accounts mentioned in the receipts produced subsequently to the 19th February.

THOMAS DAVID JONES . I am cashier at the Union Bank, Charing Cross branch. The Hotel Company have kept an account thereâthis cheque for 16l. 4s. was paid over the counter. It is customary to exchange cheques for the club on the endorsement of the secretaryâit would not have been paid had it not been for thatâthat we consider cancels the crossingâit is usual for the secretary to put his initials and pay cash, and that has not been doneâhe has got his name twice on the cheque, both on the front and the back.

CHARLES BUTLER (Detective Sergeant C). On the 2nd April in the presence of Mr. Hood I called the prisoner's attention to the receipts, pointed out they were forged, and asked him what explanation he had to offerâhe said he had no explanation at present to offer, but if Mr. Hood would give him time he dare say he shouldâMr. Hood made no remark about that, but had cautioned him before he made the statement and told him he need make no statement unless he chose to do soâthe prisoner asked me what the amount wasâI replied I did not know the exact amount, but I believed it to be about 100l.âhe said then, "I do not think it can be so much as that."

By the Prisoner. I will swear on my solemn oath you made use of that expressionâ(Two receipts, one dated 19th February, 1873 for 16l. 4s., and the other dated 20th October, for 21l. 12s. purporting to be received for Bass & Co, and signed "James Hills" were then put inâThe certificate of the incorporation of the Club and Hotel Company was also put in).

Prisoner's Defence This is the first time I have even been in a court of justice, either as principal or defendantâfor the last twenty-four years I have been thoroughly well known to Sir Anthony Rothsechild, and I hold in my hand

a letter of his in which he gives me a testimonial, value 100 guineas, and I have had something like 180,000l. in my hands belonging to him, of which he was a trusteeâhe gave me the 100 guineas in consideration of my important servicesâI have nothing whatever to do with signing the receipts, not more than a child unbornâit is not my handwriting, or like it in any wayâwhatever cheques were drawn were paid according to the voucher book, at least the agenda bookâthey were always put inâand Mr. Hood has failed to show that the cheques were in the book at allâMr. Hood knows more about the cheques than I do, and he fails to produce them to the board of directorsâit is customary where cheques are drawn for trades-people who have no account with the bank, for the secretary to endorse the cheques, so that the tradesmen might go personally to the bank and get the moneyâthat is the way that I can account for the signature upon itâI can prove that Mr. Hood in various instances has done things in the hotel that an honest man would blush to doâI am as innocent of what is brought against me as an utter stranger.

GUILTYof Uttering.

Mr. LEWISstated that the whole amount of the prisoner's defalcations was 194l.â Seven Years' Penal Servitude.

KENT CASES.

Before Mr. Recorder.

361. ALFRED MACE (28) , Stealing a cake-stand, and a knife, of the London and South Western Railway Company.

MR. F. H. LEWISandMR. MACRAE MOIRconducted the Prosecution.EDWARD HAARER. I am a confectioner in Mount Street, Berkeley SquareâI had this bridecake-stand and knife on hire from Thomas's, of Bond Streetâon Easter Monday I took it myself down to Farnham in a large basket made for the purpose, and left it there at the house of Mr. Wareâit is worth about 17l.âI did not see it again until it was at Greenwich.

EDWARD BROMLEY . I keep the Bush hotel at FarnhamâI was at Mr. Ware's on Easter Monday, and saw this cake-stand and knife unpacked, and used for the weddingânext day I repacked it in the same basket and saw it labelled to Mr. Haarer, Mount Streetâit was taken to the Farnham Station, and I saw it there about 4.10âI saw one of my men take it into the station.

THOMAS NORTH . I am a porter at the Farnham Railway Stationâabout 6 o'clock on the evening of 7th April, I saw a flat basket at the stationâI put it into the guards van just before the 6.20 train startedâI had seen that same basket come down the day before and sent it to Mr. Ware'sâI did not notice a direction on it.

JAMES SALISBURY . I am a guard on the South Western RailwayâI was guard of the 6.20 train from Farnham, on 7th AprilâI recollect North putting a hamper into my van just as the train was startingâthere was no company's label upon itâI could not say whether it had any address on it, when I got to Aldershot, somebody claimed itâI could not say who the man wasâI-gave it to him, that was the only hamper I had.

GODFREY FIELDER (Policeman P 275). After 11 o'clock on the night of 7th April, I saw the prisoner at the Sydenham Railway Stationâhe was carrying a sackâI believe he had come by train, but I did not see him get outâI allowed him to pass me and then ran up the steps in front of him and stopped himâI was in plain clothesâI asked what he had got in the

sackâhe said that what he had got was his ownâhe put down the sack; I looked at it and saw that it contained this massive standâI asked where he had got it fromâhe refused to tell meâI asked where he was going to take it toâhe said to Peak Hillâhe then took the sack up and walked in the direction of Peak HillâI went with him, from his manner I thought he was not going to take it to Peak Hill; I therefore stopped him againâhe put down the sack and said "I will show you the receipt"âhe took out the stand, took up the sack again, and struck me a back-handed blow and cut me in the cheek, just under the eyeâI could not see what it was that he struck me with, it was very dark just there, but I believe it was with a knifeâI felt that I was stabbed and the blood was running down my laceâthe blow knocked me back and I fell into the hedgeâas soon as I recovered myself I went after the prisonerâhe ran up Peak HillâI caught him within a few yardsâhe struck and kicked me several times before I could close with him, at last I succeeded in throwing him and kept him down till the witness Rush came to my assistance.

CHARLES RUSH . I reside at Peak Hill, Sydenhamâon the night of 7th April, I was in bed and was aroused by criesâI came out and found this knife in the road, close to my gateâI put it in my garden and went to the place where the cries came fromâI saw Fielder on the top of the prisonerâhe told me who he was and asked me to help him; I did soâthe prisoner struck meâFielder gave me his staff and I struck the prisoner with itâhe then laid quiet till further assistance came.

JOHN THOMAS FOX (Police Sergeant P 8). I was at the station when the prisoner was brought in on this chargeâI asked him how he became possessed of the cake-standâhe said it was his own and it was marked with his nameâI examined it before him, and could not find any nameâI said "What account can you give of it"âhe said "I shan't give any account till I get before the Magistrate."

The prisoner in his defence stated that he had been in the Army in India, and was invalided, and that when he took any liquor it affected him so that he was not answerable for his actionsâthat on 7th April, he had a hamper of plate given him, that on going by train to Aldershot, he went to the van and received this hamper thinking it was his ownâthat on finding what it contained he was induced to keep itâthat the officer stopped him roughly and hit him, and he then struck the officer, being in liquor at the time.

J. T. FOX (re-examined). There was very little appearance of liquor about him, there was some, he knew quite well what he was about.

GUILTY .*â Five Years' Penal Servitude.

THE COURTawarded 5l. to the officer Fielder for his good conduct.

362. JOHN JORDAN (32), and WILLIAM CLARK (25) , robbery with violence on Henry Woodbridge, and stealing 1s. 6d. his money.

MR. COLLINSconducted the Prosecution.

HENRY WOODBRIDGE . I am a labourer and live at 64, High Street, Woolwichâon Tuesday, 21st August, about 12.20, I was walking in High Street, WoolwhichâI had left off work about 8 o'clockâI met with a soldier I knew, and went into the Roebuck and had half a pint of beer with himâI had had a pot or two, but I was as sober as I am nowâas I was passing by a place called Meeting House Lane in the High Street, the prisoner Clark cams out from a corner, seized me by the throat and said

"You b----old sod, have you got any money?" and down I went on my back, he still holding on by my throatâwhilst he was doing that Jordan came and kicked me on my side, put his knee on the top of me and took 1s. 6d. in a little bag out of my pocketâI had 4 1/2 d. in my trowsers pocket and he said "Turn the b----old sod over, he has got something in his trousers pocket"âat that time footsteps were heard, and they ran away down Meeting House LaneâI gave information at the station, and on the Saturday I went there and saw the prisoners placed with other men and I picked them outâI am certain they are the men, I could swear to them if they had been with all Woolwich.

Jordan. Is it likely I should rob a man that lives next door to me? He lives at 64, and I live at 63. Witness. I believe he does live next doorâI have seen him week after week standing at the cornerâI did not know where he livedâI did not pick out another man at the station before him, the inspector did not point him out.

PATRICK DAVIS (Policeman R 238). I was with Inspector Phillips and apprehended Clark on the morning of the 21st Aprilâhe was in company with JordanâI took him to the stationâhe was put with other men, and the prosecutor identified himâthe prosecutor was taken into the inspector's room, all the blinds were drawn down, and four men were taken in who very nearly matched with the prisoners, and the prisoners were allowed to select their own position, and the prosecutor came and pointed them both out.

HENRY PHILLIPS (Police Inspector). On the morning of the 21st I received certain information, and saw the two prisoners in High-street togetherâI followed themâJordan ran awayâI apprehended him and took him to the stationâthey were remanded to the Saturday on another chargeâon the Saturday the prosecutor came to the stationâI kept him in my room for about an hour and a half, before we could get persons suitable to put with the prisonerâI closed the blinds, and then took the prosecutor into the yardâhe pointed to the two prisonersâJordan was on the right-hand sideâhe seemed to me to be pointing not directly at Jordan, and I said go to the man you mean and touch him, and he immediately went and touched Jordan, and Clark also.

The Prisoners' statements before the Magistrate.âJordan says: "I did not do it; I saw it done, and know who it was." Clark says: "I am innocent; I know who did it, there were three in it."

Jordan's Defence. This man knows I am

NOT GUILTY. I was not with him at all. Why not tell the truth; it was him and Regan that done it; I was at home.

Clark's Defence. I never saw the prosecutor in my life.

GUILTY .âThe prisoners bothPLEADED GUILTYto having been before convicted of felony. Clark had been fifteen times convictedâ Seven Years' each in Penal Servitude.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

363. JOHN VERSEY (40) and ELIZABETH VERSEY (28) , Stealing four dresses, one clock, and other articles, of George John Mitchell, in his dwelling-house.

four dresses, a brown silk skirt, a jacket, and a polonaise from my mistress's wardrobe, and a clock from the mantelpieceâI had seen the clock that morning and the articles of dress three days beforeâa window on the first first floor, looking towards the common, had been opened, and a person getting on the wall could reach the window and get into the houseâthe articles I missed were worth between 50l. and 60l.âthis jacket, this skirt, and this polonaise are all that have been discoveredâthey belong to my mistress.

GEORGE JOHN MITCHELL . When I ascertained my loss I gave information in the neighbourhoodâMr. Birt gave up the silk skirt to me on, I think, 3rd April.

GEORGE CALLOWAY . I am in the service of Mr. Birt, a pawnbroker, of Powis Street, Woolwichâthis silk skirt was pledged there on the evening of 17th March for 1l. in the name of Emma Smith, of Burridge Road, I believe by the female prisonerâon the 3rd April a policeman called, and I found I had taken in the articleâon the 4th the female prisoner came and tendered this ticketâI asked her if she wished to redeem itâshe said no, she wished a further advance on itâI asked her if she had purchased itâshe said it was made a present to her by her husbandâI said, "Where did he get it?"âshe said "In London"âI said "Do you think it is worth more?" she said "Oh, yes, it is worth more"âI told her to wait a little, sent for a constable, and gave her into custody.

Prisoner Elizabeth. Q. Was the dress pledged on the 17th, the same day that the robbery was committed? A. YesâI served the person, but I dad not write the ticketâabout twenty or thirty people were in the shopâI did not notice the person's features, or whether she wore a fall, but she was dressed in black, and had a black hatâif I had met you I should not have stopped you unless you produced this ticket.

EMMA EADES . I live at 42, Brunswick Road, Highgate HillâI have seen the female prisoner a few times and the male prisoner onceâthey have a little boy who brought a bag to my place on 20th March, containing this jacket and polonaiseâthe jacket was blue, but I received this letter afterwards (produced) in consequence of which I had it dyedâI do not know Mrs. Versey's writing.

Prisoner John. Q. Are you an acquaintance of my wife's? A. Only through her staying with a friend who lives with me, Sarah RookâI am not a friend of your wife'sâI know that you have been awayâI do not know that your wife was in the habit of leaving things at my friend's.

JANET FRIER . My husband lives in Olive Street, Plumsteadâthe two prisoners have occupied our two front rooms since January, as man and wifeâhe was laid up in February, and on 17th March, and before that time he was able to walk outâwhen the police came they went into the room the prisoners occupied.

Prisoner John. Q. Have you been up in my room plenty of times? A. Several timesâyou and my husband have been intimateâyou met with a severe accident on 16th February, and I think you were laid up a fortnight; after that you walked with a stick and a crutch, but you were able to walk to Charlton on 17th March with my husbandâyou returned together between 3 and 4 o'clockâyou went out again that evening, I cannot say at what time, but you returned about 11 o'clock.

JOHN WOOD (Policeman R 94). Mr. Mitchell's Louse is between two and

three miles from Olive Streetâon 4th April I was fetched to Mr. Birts shop and found the female prisoner detained thereâI said "You will have to go with me to the station"âshe said "What for?"âI said "About the skirt"âshe said "The skirt belongs to me"âI asked her which skirt it wasâshe said that she did not know, but her husband bought the piece and gave it to her and she made it herself, and she had got two and she did not know which it wasâI took her to the station, got her address, went there and saw the male prisonerâI said "You will have to go with me to the station, your wife is there"âhe said "What for?"âI said "With respect to a skirt"âhe said "What skirt? she has got two, I know nothing at all about it"âthis knife only was found on him.

THE COURTconsidered that there was no case against JOHN VERSEY.

NOT GUILTY .

Elizabeth Versey produced a written defence, stating that she purchased the duplicate of the skirt in a public-house of a young man named Clark, and also the other articles, but not wishing her husband to know that she had spoken to Clark as he had forbidden her to do so, she sent them away to Highgate.

ELIZABETH VERSEY GUILTY of receiving.âNine Months' Imprisonment.

364. JOHN VERSEY was again indicted for breaking and entering the dwelling-house of Etterich William Creek and stealing therein two purses, a silk skirt and other articles, upon which no evidence was offered.

SAMUEL TURNER . I am tune-keeper to Messrs. Siemens Brothers, telegraph engineers, of Charlton, employing 3,000 menâthe prisoner was an assistant time-keeper in my officeâit was his duty to assist me in booking the workmen's time in or outâwhen a man is engaged he is furnished with a brass ticket with a number on it, and when he comes to work, his duty is to deposit that ticket in a box kept at the gateâ6 o'clock is the usual time for the men to come to work, and these brass tickets are collected at a little after 6 o'clock and hung on hooks corresponding with their numbers, after depositing them on a table and booking themâthe men take away the tickets when they go to their meals, and when they go home at nightâthe same course exactly is repeated when they return from mealsâwhen a man leaves the employment his duty is to deliver his brass ticket into my officeâif lost, it is paid forâwhen given up it would serve for another man who subsequently came into the employmentâticket No. 549 belonged to a man named Daniels, who left the factory on 31st January, 1874âI am looking at the memorandum in the writing of Foster, my assistant, who is here; this other book is in my writing, and they were both kept under my inspectionâthe name of "Kennington" appears first on 11th February, 1874, and it is in the prisoner's writingâticket 579 belonged to Marshall, who was discharged on 25th February, and it is entered to "Thomas" on the same day in the prisoner's writingâticket 589 belonged to Etherington who left on 12th December, 1873, and the name of "Bailey" is entered by the prisoner on 19th FebruaryâI am looking at my time book which is kept by meâHunt, who held ticket 2,227. was to have been transferred from the wire to the cable department, but he was not transferredâhe was

supposed to have been transferred on 18th February, and the writing is the boy Butcher's, but the time is put in by the prisonerâthis (produced) is the paper upon which his name was originally entered, it is in one of the clerk's writingâticket 2,300 is first entered on 18th February, 1874, that belonged to no one; it is in the prisoner's writing, and the name of Armstrong is enteredâticket 2,397 belonged to a man named Crew, who was placed on the sick list on 21st February, and yet his name continues on till the week ending 4th Marchâthis book is kept under my inspection; my night relieving man sees that it is rightâI mark them and fill in the time, and leave the book there at nightâI do not keep the book entirely but I and my assistants doâI correct it, and my night assistant gives me. a list in the morning, if there is any errorâticket 285 belonged to a man named Pointer, who was discharged on 3rd February, and on 6th February it is entered by the prisoner to a man named Wrightâticket 2,060 belonged to a man named Owen, who was discharged on 28th January, and the name of Johnson appears to that number in the prisoner's writing on 4th Februaryâall those numbers appear carried on with time and rate attached up to the week ending 11th Marchâafter they are once entered they are carried on by the boyâwhen once the brass ticket appears upon the book, anyone can enter it except the boyâI don't allow him to do itâthe presence of the brass ticket indicates its owner's absenceâI hare made enquiries for Kennington, Thomas, Bailey, Johnson, and Wright, but none of them have appearedâthe prisoner as assistant time-keeper had access to those brass tickets.

Cross-examined. The prisoner has been in the employment probably six monthsâI always believed his parents to be respectable, or he would not have been in our employâwhen a man left he would give his ticket up to me or to one of my three assistants, who are not boysâMr. Claverhouse and Mr. Cook are two of themâone workmen could not work two tickets because there must be another name entered in the bookâI am responsible for the bookâthis is it, and this is a copy giving the explanation of every markâthis is a short way of booking the timeâthis straight mark means from 6 to 8 o'clock, this "0" means not present, this means "after breakfast," this "after dinner," and this "left his ticket at home"âthe pay-tickets are made up from my book and the men are paid by paper, ticketsâif an engine driver cannot get away, he is allowed to send another person for himâthis figuring against the name of Wright, No. "285" on 2nd March is in Mr. Claverhouse's writing on Monday and Tuesday, but it is not his markingâthe figures correspond with the marksâthese figures against Wright's name on 6th March are mineâon March 12th the lines are put down by the prisoner, but there is no time to them as that was the day he was takenâfrom the time-keeper's rough diary the names and dates are entered into another book, which is kept by me or my assistantâthis "285 Wright" on this page is in Beales' writingâthat is copied from my rough book which I am answerable forâthis pay-ticket (produced) "285 Wright" is in the prisoner's writing, but the date I believe is Butcher'sâthe figures in the prisoner's writing are copied from my writing in the rough bookâI am the person responsible chiefly for the time being properly keptâthe first entry of Crew's name after he was placed in the sick-list is in Butcher's writing, but the time is notâthe first two days time is in my figuresâthe prisoner may have been in the employ a little longer than six months, but he came the last time the day after Christmas Dayâ

these brass-tickets are left in the office where my assistants can get themâI do not always check the pay-tickets with the books as we have been so busyâwe had about 1,500 hands at the time the prisoner was there, and 1,300 in my particular officeâthe time-keepers office is open at all hours of the day and nightâa night relief takes my place at nightâthey work day and nightâI do not know of persons from the gutta percha side coming to my office and helping to book the menânot even on Sunday eveningsâI will undertake to swear that it has not occurred on Sunday eveningâthere are three time-keepers on the premises and their assistantsâI have sometimes found men in the office with Claverhouse, and spoken about it in the morningâticket 2,227 was got ready for Hunt, but it was not transferred to himâthe entry is in Butcher's writing.

Re-examined. The foundation of the system is the working of the brass-tickets, and if a ticket is being honestly or dishonestly worked the same entry would be made by me or any assistants, and the hieroglyphics in the time-sheet would go on on the assumption of the ticket being used belonging honestly to somebodyâClaverhouse would not work with the prisonerâhe said that people passed by him and said that he was a thiefâit is the foreman's duty to fix the rate of a workman's wages when he enters the service, that ought to be reported to me as 4 1/2 d. or 5d., or whatever it was per hourâthe rate per hour of the fictitious workmen is in the prisoner's writingâif they were real workmen the rate per hour ought to have been reported to me or to my assistantâthis is the book in which he would enter and rate the workmenâthis signature "H. W. W. Beale," is the prisoner's writing.

MR. M. WILLIAMS. Q. Is this. "Wright," your original entry 7 A. Yes; where it comes from is the questionâit does not come from any bookâthe foreman says "I have entered such and such names, book their names," and we book themâno foreman brought this nameâwhen a foreman brings them we enter the name of the foreman to their nameâthe foreman fixes the rate or anybody sent by the foreman, but he would bring a paper from the foreman.

HENRY MARSHALL . I was formerly in the service of Siemens Brothersâmy ticket was No. 579âI was discharged in February, and the prisoner did not give me up my ticketâI was not at work the week ending 2nd March, and did not receive 1l. 7s. 7d.

Cross-examined. I do not know what became of my ticket; I put it into the box when I arrived at 6 o'clockâit was left on the board day by day.

FREDERICK ETHERINGTON . I was formerly in Messrs. Siemens' serviceâI was discharged on 12th FebruaryâI laid my ticket on the table, and did not receive it back; it was No. 589.

Cross-examined. I have not been called as a witness beforeâI gave my ticket into Mr. Turner's handsâI laid it on the table before him.

ROBERT OWEN . I was formerly in Messrs. Siemens' serviceâI was discharged on 2nd February, I" thinkâmy ticket was 2,060âit was stopped and taken away from me when I was discharged, and the prisoner gave me a pay-ticketâI did not give my brass ticket to any other man.

Cross-examined. I don't know what became of it after it was taken from me.

SAMUEL CREWE . I am a labourer at Messrs. Siemens'âI left on the sick-list on 19th FebruaryâI did not give my ticket in for a weekâI gave it to the prisoner when I was discharged, and received 1l. 19s. 1d. for

wagesâI had only worked three days, and that was in the cable departmentâI have now another number in the gutta-percha department.

Cross-examined. The prisoner was in the office when I gave him my ticket.

JOHN HUST . I am employed in the wire department at Messrs Siemens'âI recollect a talk about moving me into the cable department but I remained in the wire departmentâI received my wages in the wire department for the weeks ending 4th March and 11th MarchâI did not receive any money or authorise the prisoner to receive 2l. 6s. 4 1/2 d. for me in the cable department for the week ending 6th MarchâI always either drew my money myself or authorised the boy to receive itâI never spoke three words to the prisoner in my lifeâI cannot say at the present moment what the number of my ticket is, or whether I ever bore the number 2,027

Cross-examined. I have repeatedly authorised the boys to receive my; money.

GEORGE ROWLEY . I was foreman in the cable department at Messrs Siemens'âno such men us Wright, Kennington, Thomas, Bailey, Johnson or Armstrong worked there in the week ending 4th MarchâI have looked through the books, and their names are not thereâeach man in my department has a brass ticket.

Cross-examined. I did swear "I do not know whether Thomas was in my department or Wright, or any of the other names," but after looking through the books I find that they were not thereâI don't keep the books.

COURT. Q. Some numbers must have been entered, what do you mean by their not being entered A. The men were not entered; the men were not in the worksâI have not been able to find them sinceâI never knew them at all, except Crewe.

THOMAS CHAMBERS . I am a foreman of labourers in the cable department, and have twenty men under meâI do not know Wright, Kennington, Bailey, Johnson, or Armstrongâthere are about 1,000 men in the department.

GEORGE JOHN WEST . I am foreman to Messrs. Siemens, in the cable departmentâI was in the night shiftâWright, Kennington, Thomas, Bailey, Johnson, or Armstrong were not working there to my knowledge.

Cross-examined. I will not swear they were not, but I do not know themâI know there is such a man as Wright working there now.

EDWARD ABLITT . I am a clerk to Messrs. Siemensâon Saturday morning, 7th March, I was in possession of the pay-tickets to deliver to the workmenâthe prisoner brought me this paper that morning; it bears his initials, and contains the eight names referred to in this chargeâhe asked me to look out those numbers as soon as I could, and I handed him the pay-tickets for those numbers.

Cross-examined. He did not hand in another list at the same timeâit is customary to do soâI deliver the pay-tickets on the list being furnished to me.

WILLIAM SMITH . I am cashier to Messrs. Siemensâon 7th March I paid the prisoner these eight pay-tickets for the week ending 7th Marchâthe gross amount is 17l. 0s. 1 1/2 d.âhe initialled themâthat was the first week I had taken to getting the initials of the person receiving the moneyâthey have not presented themselves for payment since.

Cross-examined. When the pay-tickets are brought up to mo I pay the sumsâit is common for another person to bring tickets when a man cannot

leave his machineâthis was the first time I asked the prisoner to put his initials to the ticketsâI have examined the books to see if there are any other discrepancies, and they agree exactly.

BERNARD CLAVERHOUSE . I am assistant time-keeper at Messrs. Siemens'âon Sunday, 8th March, about 6 a.m., I was in the office with Mr. Turner, and we both saw that no brass tickets referring to any of the cable department were thereâthe prisoner was not there at all that dayâI had occasion to look at the time-book next day (Monday), and found entries in the prisoner's writing for work on Sunday from 6 a.m. till 5 p.m.âI referred to the numbers which you have before you, and after I found it out I made a communication to Mr. Turner, and looked into the matterâI have made entries in this time-book under some of those namesâat those times the brass tickets were not in the officeâat the time I made the entries I believed that those brass tickets represented genuine workmen.

Cross-examined. I claim the credit of finding this out at 3 o'clock in the morningâI am not there by dayâwhen I say that the prisoner was not there, I go by the bookâI was not there all day on the Monday, but I say the he was not there, because I inquired when I came at 6 o'clockâI go by what people told meâI once had a dispute with the prisonerâI did not like to work with himâI have never suggested bringing any fresh hands into the works, either to Mr. Turner or anybody elseâthat I swearâI have never suggested to Mr. Turner the name of any German to come into the worksâafter Beale left I told Mr. Turner that I knew a good man to come into the works, and he was a German, but not beforeâit is a fact that I have entered very few names in this book, because they did not understand my writingâthe time diaries are made up from another rougher diary, and most of the figures in the rough books are in my writing at night timeâI never heard any suggestion from Mr. Turner of my having men in my office at night.

Re-examined. The reason I did not wish to work with the prisoner was because Mr. Shmidt and Mr. Turner had already put suspicion upon himâI was called at the Police Court for the defence, and gave the evidence which I have given to-day, which caused me to be called for the prosecutionâthe prisoner was defended at the Police Court by Mr. Hughes, the attorney, who called me as his witness.

WILLIAM HARDING . I am a job-master, and formerly lived at Lee, within three miles of these worksâI know the prisonerâon 28th February I entered into this agreement with himâI knew him by his hiring ponies of me at 2s., 6d. per hour, sometimes once, and sometimes twice a week. (This was an agreement, dated February 23, 1874, between the prisoner and William Harding, for the purchase by the prisoner of a pony, trap, and harness for 35l., to be paid in three weeks, and if not then paid for, to be returned to Harding, 10l. having been paid in advance)âI did not know how young he was, or whether he had parents.

Cross-examined. He had sold me the pony about 5th January, 1874, and I sold it back to himâI don't know when he bought it.

PATRICK DAVIS (Policeman 238 R). I took the prisoner on 12th March and told him he would be charged with obtaining 17l. by false pretences, the moneys of his employerâhe said, "I received the money from the cashier, and paid it on account of men working for the firm," I think he said, "In the cable department."

Cross-examined. He was taken before a Magistrate, admitted to bail, and has been on bail ever since.

COURT. Q. Was Smith, the cashier, present when you took him? A. YesâI don't know whether Turner was presentâthe prisoner was not asked for any explanation as to how he got the money.

ANNA MARIA BOURNE . I am the wife of Henry Bourne and live at Start ford, in EssexâI was present in September, 1852, at the Parish Church at Plumstead when the prisoner was married to my sister, Lucy FilerâI was one of the witnessesâthey resided at Plumstead afterwardsâshe is in Court now.

Cross-examined. I was intimate with my sister at the time she was married, and afterwards for some yearsâthe prisoner was living with some brickmakers at Plumsteadâhe was also a militiaman, and after he had been married three or four years he left for a time, to attend to his duties as a militiamanâhe did not find his wife living with the brick makers when he came backâit was immediately after he returned from his militia, duties that he left herâI was not living at Plumstead at that timeâthe prisoner left Plumstead and his wife still lived there for some time, and then she went to Woolwichâshe had been living in Woolwich a great many yearsâI have not seen the prisoner above twice during the last seven yearsâI. know a man named Butler living at Woolwich, his parents lived close by my father thereâhe did not live in the same house with my sister any part of the time.

CATHERINE SMITH . I reside at Henley Street, WoolwichâI have known the prisoner about ten yearsâon 30th October last I was married to him at the Parish Church at Crayfordâhe described himself as a bachelorâI first found out that he was a married man on the day he was taken into custody.

Cross-examined. He has treated me very well and I don't wish to prosecute him, he has been a kind husband to meâI had known him a great many years, and we had been living together for some yearsâI never heard of the existence of any first wife until the Saturday he was takenâI should think I had lived with him nine years before he married meâno woman ever came after him during that time to my knowledge; nor any father, or mother, or sister.

WILLIAM MORGAN (Policeman R 155). I took the prisoner at 31, Henley Street, WoolwichâI told him I should take him into custody for feloniously intermarrying with Catherine Smith, his wife Lucy being aliveâhe said, All right, I was stoned away from my own door by a lot of bricklayers"âhe said he should not have married but he wanted somebody to look after his sister's childrenâhe has five of them, and has supported them for some timeâI produce two correct copies of the certificates of marriage.

NOT GUILTY .

368. GEORGE JACKSON (22) , stealing a watch of Harry Forward from his person.

MR. WILSONconducted the Prosecution.

HARRY FORWARD . I am a seaman in the Royal Navyâon the evening of last Good Friday I was in the Prince of Orange public-house with my brother between 7 and 8 o'clockâwhile we were there the prisoner came in and pushed past me, and as his shoulder got past me I felt a tug at my chainâI put up my hand and received the chain across my right wristâthe prisoner made for the door; I caught hold of him, and we went out of the doorâmy brother said, "What is the matter?" and I accused the prisoner of stealing my watchâthe prisoner asked me if I would speak to him quietly, and I walked him to the Railway Station, where we found a constable, and I gave him in chargeâthe watch was taken from his pocket in my presence.

Cross-examined by the Prisoner. There were forty or fifty people in front of the barâyou came in and shoved past me, and I felt the tug at my chainâI did not see you take the watch, but I felt the tug and you made for the doorâI said, "If you will turn it up I will say no more about it"âyou said you had not got it.

WALTER FORWARD . I am the brother of the last witness, and was with, him on the night in questionâI assisted him to seize the prisonerâI have no doubt at all about the man, because I saw the watch taken from his pocket when he was given into custody.

Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I did not see you take the watch, but I saw it taken from your pocketâyour hands were free till I came and caught hold of you.

JAMES WINTER (Policeman R R 18). On the evening of Good Friday, 3rd April, I saw the two witnesses holding the prisonerâthe prosecutor, told me the prisoner had stolen his watch, and he had seen him put it in his pocket, and as it was only two or three yards to the railway station gate, I dragged the prisoner inside the gate and searched himâI found this watch in his left hand pocket behind, and the prosecutor said it was his watchâI took the prisoner to the stationâhe said he was not aware the watch was in his pocket and that if it was there some one must have put it there.

The prisoner in his defence stated that he did not steal the 'watch, but that the thief must have put it in his pocket.

GUILTY .

He alsoPLEADED GUILTYto having been before convicted in January, 1872**â Seven Years' Penal Servitude.

SURREY CASES.

Before Mr. Recorder.

369. JOHN BURTON (18) , Burglary in the dwelling-house of Stephen Powell, and stealing a coat, a handkerchief, a razor, three bowls, and 4s., his property.

MR. PLATTconducted the Prosecution.

STEPHEN POWELL . I keep the Mason's Arms beer-house, Park Crescent, Claphamâon Monday, 30th March, about 4.45 I was awoke by the police ringing the bellâI went down and found the top sash of the bar parlour window pulled down, which I had fastened the night before, the shutter was pulled down and a pane of glass broken, next the catchâI had left about 2s. worth of coppers, and some 3d. and 1d. pieces in some bowls, that was all goneâI also missed a shooting coat and a handkerchief in the pocket of it, also a razor and case from a shelf in the wash-houseâthe

window of the bar parlour looks into Crescent RowâI bad fastened the hasp of that window on the Sunday night, and the top shutter was shut, but not boltedâthe wash-house door was bolted top and bottomâtwo entries had been made, one into the wash-house, and the other into the bar parlourâthis (produced) is the razor I lost, and these are the three bowls.

WILLIAM COLES (Policeman W 188). About 4.30 on this Monday, I was passing Crescent RowâI noticed that the prosecutor's window was broken and openâI called him up and found the premises as he has just statedâabout 2 o'clock on that morning I had seen the prisoner in High Street, Clapham. 600 or 700 yards from the prosecutor's house, and going in that directionâabout 12.30 on the Sunday evening, I went to a stable in Nelson's RowâI afterwards heard the prisoner say that he had slept there.

GEORGE HAZLE (Policeman W 18). About 1 o'clock in the day, on 30th, the prisoner was brought to the stationâI asked him to account for his time on the Sunday nightâhe said he had slept at Carter's stables (which are in Nelson's Row), and that he went there at 11.30âI told him to turn his pockets out, and he produced a shilling, a sixpence, and three halfpenceâI asked how he got itâhe said by sweeping a crossing on Clapham CommonâI asked if that was all he had about himâhe said it wasâI searched him and found a two shilling piece in his shoeâI asked how he accounted for thatâhe said he got it by scrambling for money at the boat raceâI said "Why do you carry it in your shoeâ"he said because he had got no pocket.

EDWARD JAMES LITTLE . I am a carpenter of 32, Clapham Park Roadâon the Friday morning previous to the robbery, about ten minutes to 6' o'clockâI saw the prisoner and another man come out of the prosecutor's stable gatesâthey were about a foot open, and they were trying to shut themâthe prisoner was standing up and the other was down on his knees pulling the gates together.

GEORGE MASON (re-examined). The witness Edwin Brooker, is ill at St. Thomas's Hospital, and suffering from rheumatic feverâI have not seen him since the 1st, when he was admittedâI have a certificate which I obtained at the hospital yesterdayâI was present when the prisoner was before the Magistrateâhe had the opportunity of cross-examining the witness.

CHRISTOPHER MUSGRAVE TAYLOR . I am house physician, at St. Thomas's HospitalâI have seen Edwin Brooker a policeman there to day, he is suffering from acute rheumatism, and is not able to leave his bed.

The Deposition ofEDWIN BROOKERwas put in and read as follows: "On 30th ultimo, I found the prisoner and said "I want you to go to the station with me on suspicion of a burglary at Mr. Powell's"âhe said "All right, I thought that was what you wanted me forâI heard of it, and I was going down to the station about it as soon as I had my dinner."

THOMAS EGAN . I live at No. 1, Huntsman Street, East Street, Walworth,: and am a yard foremanâon Easter Monday about about 12 o'clock, I was walking in the Old Kent Road with my wife on my arm, and saw the prisoner Harris and another man standing togetherâone of them snatched at

my watchâI don't know that man, he did not take the watch, the bow was brokenâhe seized hold of my chain, I struck out at him, he ran away, I followed him, while doing so the other tripped me up, and we both fell togetherâI got up and left him behind me and ran after the man that snatched at my watchâat the end of York Street I lost sight of him, and I turned round on to Harris and said "I have lost him, I will hold you"âthe policeman came up at the same time, and I gave him in chargeâhe struggled violently and assaulted the policemanâI saw Purdy afterwards at Star Corner in the hands of some manâwhen I got home I found that my watch was in my waistcoat pocket with the bow brokenâI have no doubt about Harris.

Cross-examined. It was about twenty minutes after Harris was in custody that Purdy came up; there was a crowd at that timeâthere were two policemenâthere was a good deal of pushingâI did not see Purdy get a click on the earâthe police were doing their best to take the prisoner.

Re-examined. It was about a quarter of a mile from the place where the man snatched at my watch to where Purdy came up, and about 400 or 500 yards from where I lost sight of the man.

JAMES GROSE . I work at a coffee-house, and live at No. 1, Layton's Buildingsâon Easter Monday night, about 9 o'clock, I was in the Old Kent Road, near the Dover RoadâI saw Mr. Egan and his wifeâI was two or three yards behind themâI saw two men following them; they both wore black coatsâHarris is one of the men, I am sure of him; the other one turned round and snatched at Mr. Egan's breastâMr. Egan tried to resist himâI think he hit himâthe man ran away through York StreetâI do not see that man hereâI had not time to look at himâMr. Egan ran across 1. the road, and Harris after him and knocked him down at the corner of the street; Mr. Egan clung to him, and they both fell downâI was there when the police came up and took Harris.

Harris. He says both the men had black coats; mine is a brown coat. Witness. I thought it was blackâit was very dark there; but I know him by his faceâI am quite sure of him.

JOHN GAITER (Policeman M 246). I saw Mr. Egan at the corner of York Street, following Harris, and calling out" Stop him"âI stopped himâhe said, "I am not guilty; I am not going with you"âhe was very violentâhe caught me by the legs and threw me downâhe was eventually taken to the station after a desperate struggleâPurdy came up at the bottom of Bermondsey New Road, and said, "Bill, don't go; hit and kick the b----; try, lad"âHarris then became very violent, striking and kicking us, and Purdy commenced in the same wayâtwo gentlemen took Purdy to the station, and I and my brother constable took Harris.

WILLIAM BROMAN . I saw Harris in the custody of the policeâthere were a few persons there on the first onsetâPurdy came up in about twenty., minutesâhe tried to get Harris out of the policeman's hands.

Cross-examined. I and another man took Purdy to the stationâhe went very quietly, and on the way he said, "I am very sorry for what I have done; I have been bribed into it; I am sorry for it."

Harris's Defence. I was going for something for supper, when the prosecutor ran against me and knocked me downâhe left me lying on the ground and ran away, and afterwards came back and said he would give me in chargeâI did not try to escapeâhe lives in the same street as I do, and could find me at any timeâhe told the policeman he had lost his

watch, and he afterwards found it in his own pocketâI have been working hard for my living for the last eight months.

BENJAMIN HUTLEY (Policeman M 129). On the morning of April 2nd., at 12.45, I was on duty at the corner of Friar Street, Black friars Roadâa cabman came to meâhe said something to meâat the same time the witness Earl came to me, and said that three men had knocked a man downâI went with him up Friar Street and Wellington Street, and saw the prisoner Gray standing in a doorwayâI caught hold of his shoulder and said to Earl "Is this one of the men?"âhe said "Yes, that is one of them that ran away"â267 M came up and said "I know where the other two men are"âI took Gray across to the opposite side of the street to No. 1, Green Street, where Davis lives, and knocked at the doorâthe answer was "Who's that?"âI said "A policeman"âDavis said "What do you want?" I said "I want to see you"âhe opened the door and said "I have not been indoors, I have only just come indoors"âI said "You will have to come outside"âhe did soâ267 said "I know where the other man is"âwe went to a mat maker's in Green Street, where Connolly works sometimesâConnolly was concealing himself underneath some shavings in the shopâhe was brought back to 1, Green Streetâwe placed the three prisoners together, and Earl said "I believe them to be the other two"âI said I should take them into custody on suspicion of knocking down a man in the Blackfriars Road and robbing himâDavis said "I am innocent "âthe prosecutor afterwards came to the station in company with another constable and Earlâthe prisoners were placed in the dockâthe prosecutor pointed to Gray and said "That is the man that threw me down, and the others rifled my pockets"âthey made no answerâthe prosecutor's right side was covered with dirt; he appeared as if he had fallen or been thrown downâthe inspector asked whether he had lost any moneyâhe said "No; I have got plenty of money about me, though," and he pointed to his right side, but did not show any.

Cross-examined. The prosecutor had been drinking, but he knew what he was about very wellâthe distance from Friar Street to where I saw Gray standing in the door-way was about a 100 yards, or it might be 200âhe, was standing outside the place he lives atâI could not see him till I got close to himâI was in uniformâEarl was with meâI did not see the prosecutor till he came to the station.

JOHN CHESWASS . I have recently arrived in this country from BallaratâI have since been living in York Street, London Roadâon the night in question I was in a cab in the Blackfriars Road, about 12.30âI had a

friend with meâI paid the cabman to take him to Charing Cross, and was getting out of the cab on to the pavement when I was attacked by three personsâGray tried to choke me, and the other two rifled my pocketsâthis was about ten yards from the cabâI could almost swear to Gray, but not quiteâI am positive to himâthe other two I could not swear to, but I believe they are the menâthey hurt me very muchâI was very drunkâthey could not get anything, because I never carry anything in my pocketsâI am too wide awake for these sort of gentlemen.

Cross-examined. I had been out all the eveningâI was very drunkâI did not know who was in my companyâI am not aware that I had a young lady in my companyâsome woman may have picked me upâI don't recollect itâI don't recollect a woman going with me into a coffee-house after this occurrenceâshe might have doneâI would not like to say one way or the other, from the state I was inâI swear positively to Gray, but not to the other twoâI believe Gray is the man that knocked me down, but I don't positively swear, and I believe the other two were with himâI don't remember having any discussion or any row with Gray in the street.

WILLIAM HENRY EARL . I am a clerk and live at 4, Longville Road, Newington Buttsâon the morning in question, between 12.30 and 1 o'clock, I was going along the Blackfriars RoadâI saw the prosecutor there in front of the British coffee-house, and a cab in the roadwayâthe three prisoners came up and threw the prosecutor down, one caught him by the leg and threw him over, and it appeared to me as if they rifled his pocketsâI recognised Gray as he passed meâhe was one of the threeâI believe he was the one that threw the prosecutor; he was the biggestâthe prosecutor; fell right over on his sideâI was just crossing Wellington Street, coming towards the British coffee-house, the cabman alarmed them and they ran away, a woman assisted the prosecutor upâhe was a little the worse for liquorâin consequence of what the cabman said to me I walked as faras Friar Street, there I saw 129âI said something to him and went with him down some of the back streets, and I saw Gray standing in a doorway as if he did not wish anyone to see him, trying to hide himselfâI am quite sure as to himâI saw the other two brought out afterwards, one from his house and one from a court alongsideâI should think they are the twoâI would I not swear to them, but I can swear to Gray.

Cross-examined. This happened right in front of the coffee-shopâthere was only the woman and the cabman there besides, no one elseâI believe I stated before the Magistrate that it appeared as if they were rifling his pocketsâI saw Gray pull him by the legs and throw him overâI saw the woman afterwardsâshe went with the prosecutor into the coffee-shopâI could not say whether she had been walking with him before.

WILLIAM RICKMAN (Policeman M 267). A little before 1 o'clock on the morning in question, I was going along Green Street, and saw Davis standing at the door of No. 2, as I passed by he drew back into the roomâtwo or three doors further on I saw Gray and Connolly together at the door of another houseâas I passed Gray-spoke to me, and said "It is a fine night"âI said "Yes, a very fine night"âat that instant he said to Connolly I shall go inâat that time two constables came along, Connolly went in and shut the door, Davis did the sameâin consequence of something the constables said 129 M came round the corner with Earlâthey saw Gray standing in the doorway and went over to himâEarl said "That is one of the men"âI said "If that is one I think I know where the other two are"

âI went to Davis's door and knockedâhe did not open itâI said if he did not I should break it openâhe then opened it, and the other constable took hold of himâI went to the house where I had seen Connolly go in a mattrass-maker's shop, the door was shutâI pulled it open with a string and found Connolly crouching down amongst some shavingsâI brought him outside, put the three prisoners together and Earl said he believed they were the three menâI took hold of Gray to take him to the stationâhe said We have been working till half-past 11 o'clock'âI said "Yes, but it is nearly 1 o'clock now"âhe said "We went to the Adelphi after we left our work"âin another minute he said "We went over to Tooley Street to see my sister"âI said "You told me just now you went to the Adelphi"âhe said "So we did, and afterwards to Tooley Street to see my sister"âI said "You have been very quick"âwhen I first saw Gray and Connolly 1 were togetherâDavis had no coat or hat onâthey were all three on the same side of the streetâa few yards apart, about eight or nine, I should think

JOHN PITTMAN (Policeman M 268). I was called by 129 and went down Friar Street and along Green StreetâI met 267 coming downâI spoke to himâGray was found in a doorwayâ267 said "I know where the others areâwe went to No. 2, Green StreetâDavis came to the door partly dressedâI land hold of him and said "You must come out here"âhe said "I have only just come in" his mother came down stairs and asked what was the matterâhe said "I have been in some time"â267 went and fetched the others, and we took them to the stationâon the way they said they had been at work together till 11.30, and from there they went to the Adelphiâafter that they said they had been to the Sisters at Tooley Street.

Gray's Statement before the Magistrate; "I was in company with this man between 11 and 12 o'clock that night in the Crown, in Blackfriars Roadâhe went out first with a young woman, he was with me and these two friends, went up to a coffee-stall, and came back to the corner of Wellington Streetâthis man came up at 12.30 with another young womanâhe got into words with me and wanted me to fight right or wrongâhe me shoved and I shoved him down."

GUILTY .

He alsoPLEADED GUILTYto a previous conviction in August 1873**â Seven Years' Penal Servitude.

DAVIS and CONNOLLY NOT GUILTY .

373. ELIZA SAWYER (18), PLEADED GUILTY to stealing three pairs of trousers and other goods of William Henry Lowden her master, also to feloniously leading away and detaining William Lowden a child three year and six months old with intent to deprive the father of his possession Tewelve Months' Imprisonment.

374. MARIA WOODIN (19) , to unlawfully endeavouring to conceal the birth of her childâ Judgment Respited [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.] And

375. MATILDA GAIT (18) , to unlawfully enticing away Fanny Mari Bishop, a child eleven years of age, with intent to deprive the father of her possession, also to stealing an order for 5l. 5s., three dresses and other good of Henry Bishop her master in his dwelling houseâ Twelve Months' Imprisonment. [Pleaded guilty: See original trial image.]

THOMAS CHARLES ALDRIDGE . I am a boot and shoemaker, living at Great Stanmore, Middlesexâthe deceased was my sonâon Thursday, 9th April, I was sent for to 40, Hatfield StreetâI found him quite insensible and prostrateâhe died about 11 o'clock that nightâI had seen him on the Monday previous about 4.20âhe was then in very good healthâI saw him afterwards on that day at my house about 9 o'clockâhe then made a com plaint to meâI do not know the prisoner.

GEORGE BARNETT . I am a tailor, living at Great Stanmoreâon Easter Monday, 6th April, between 4 and 5 o'clock I was at the Vine public-houseâI went into the parlour and saw several men thereâthe deceased was among themâthere were twenty or thirty personsâthe deceased appeared to be soberâhe might have had something to drink, being holiday timeâas I was coming out of the parlour door into the passage I turned round and saw the prisoner and Aldridge behind meâthey made use of bad language to each otherâI saw them go out of the passage into the front of the house, between the trough and the front door; they commenced fightingâI can't say who gave the first blowâthey had a round, I believe, and hugged each other, and they parted, or some one parted themâand Aldridge walked towards the door that leads into the Vine, and Poole stood down by the troughâI did not see any fall before they parted; they got each other over the horse-trough, the back over the troughâAldridge, I believe, was under, and Poole at the topâwhen Aldridge walked to wards, the Vine he got as far as the front of the door, and some one spoke to himâI don't know who, and the prisoner made a rush at Aldridge and struck him in the right side of the face, on the jawâit was a heavy-blowâAldridge fell down, and the back of his head fell on the doorstepâI saw him lifted up, and he seemed insensible.

Cross-examined. I did not see Aldridge pull the prisoner's noseâhe took off his coat as he came along the passage and threw it downâI did not see his head fall against the troughâhis back was across the edge of the troughâI don't know that they went with much force against the troughâthey rushed into one anotherâafter they separated, Aldridge went towards the public-house, and somebody spoke to himâI could not hear what was said, there was not time to say much, not above three or four seconds.

"ByTHE COURT. I was between the trough and the houseâAldridge appeared to walk towards the house without any difficultyâI did not notice anything particular about him then.

REUBEN SILLS . I am a journeyman butcher at Great Stanmoreâon Easter Monday, about 4 o'clock in the afternoon I was at the Vineâon leaving the bar parlour I saw the prisoner and deceased in the passage, they were using rather bad languageâthe deceased pulled off his hat and coat in the passage as he went out and threw them downâPoole did not take off his coatâhe tucked his sleeves upâwhen they got out into the street they both started fightingâthey both pitched into one anotherâand they both got across the water-troughâthey afterwards partedâAldridge went towards the door of the Vine, and was speaking to some one there when the prisoner made a rush towards him and hit him in the right jawâit was a heavy blowâit caused him to fall, and his head caught the door stepâI did not hear the prisoner say anything at the timeâI afterwards saw Aldridge picked up in an insensible condition.

RICHARD GRAINGER . I am a labourer, living at Great Stanmoreâon Laster Monday, about 5 o'clock. I was at the VineâI saw the deceased and

the prisoner thereâthe prisoner stepped on the deceased's dog, and the deceased turned round and hit the prisoner on the noseâon that the prisoner said, he should not have any bother there; if he wanted a row, to come outside"âthe deceased made no reply to thatâthey Lad a bit of a scuffle in the passageâand they went out, and I followed them.

THOMAS BATTAMS . I am a labourer at Clay Hill, BusheyâI know the prisonerâon Easter Monday I was at the Vine with him, about 5 o'clockâwe did not go into the parlourâI called for a pot of ale, and Poole said, "Let us go into the parlour," we were within about 3 yards of the parlour doorâAldridge said to Poole that he had no business in the parlourâPoole said, he had as much right in the parlour as he hadâwhilst they were standing in the passage, I saw Aldridge pull Poole's nose and strike him in the faceâPoole said, "If that is what you mean, you had better come outside"âI followed them out, and saw them fence at each other outsideâI saw them strike one another.

Cross-examined. I saw them at the trough, they had their arms round, each other, and they got down against the trough and got up again, and Poole struck Aldridge again and he fell on the stepâI did not see any more of it till he recovered himself; he laid on the ground.

GEORGE WELLS . I am a labourer at BusheyâOn Easter Monday, about 5 o'clock in the afternoon I was at the VineâI saw the prisoner there, he was going towards the parlour doorâthe deceased would not let him go in, and he hit Poole on the nose in the passageâPoole said "If that is what you mean, you had better come outside"âAldridge took off his coat, I, followed them out and saw what occurred outside.

Cross-examined. I could not say how fax the trough is from the doorâI have seen a waggon go throughâI saw them go down against the troughâthey both got up again and were ready for fighting againâAldridge was ready to fight again; he was walking round, coming round ready to fight.

Re-examined. They both went down close against the trough, somebody picked them upâthey did not fall over the troughâthey got against the trough, that was what I meant when I said they went downâI did not see Aldridge near the door of the public-house speaking to anybody.

EDWIN JONES . I am a surgeon, of 194, Blackfriars RoadâI was called in to attend the deceased, at 40, Hatfield Street, on 8th August, virtually it was on the 7th, it was half-an-hour after midnightâhe was in bed, partly unconscious, very restless, scarcely able to answer any questionsâI concluded that he was suffering from inflammation of the brain, we treated him for thatâI saw him again next day in company with Dr. Payne,. a physicianâhe was then very much worseâhe died on Thursday, the 9thâI made a post-mortem examinationâthere were no marks of external injuryâthe whole of the organs of the body were perfectly healthy, he did not die from any disease of the organsâon removing the scalp, we found a large quantity of pus effused between the membranes of the brain, and the brain itself, quite sufficient to account for the deathâa severe fall on a hard substance would produce the indications I sawâthere was no injury to the, skull itselfâit was the shock and the inflammation it excitedâthere was no depression of the bone, no fracture of the skull, merely a violent inflammation set up in the membranes covering the brainâa blow would cause some depression at the moment, and that would cause the inflammation.

Cross-examined. It might result from drinkâthere was no external

mark on the back of the head, but on removing the scalp the temporal muscle was bruised, that is a muscle lying between the bone and the skin.

Re-examined. There were no symptoms to show that he had drunk to excessâa blow such as would produce the results I have mentioned would be likely to produce insensibility almost immediately afterwards.

By theJURY. If he had been drinking that would render him much more liable to inflammationâI should say that he had been drinkingâthat is only a conjectural opinionâhe was almost totally unconscious when I saw him, which was twenty-four hours after the occurrenceâI could not say that a mere shock to the nervous system would set up inflammation and generate pusâI cannot say that it could have arisen from any other cause, except the blowâfrom the history of the case, I should say that the inflammation was set up, not by the blow, but the fallâhe appears to have fallen on a stoneâa few days hard drinking would not produce that amount of pus that I found.

GUILTYâStrongly recommended to mercy by theJURYon account of the provocation he received. â Two Months' Imprisonment.

Before Mr. Baron Pollock.

377. JOHN LLOYD (24) , Feloniously cutting and wounding Allen Jenkins, with intent to murder him.âSecond Count. With intent to do him some grievous bodily harm.

MR. HARRY GIFFARD conducted the Prosecution.

ALLEN JENKINS . I live at 11, Martin Street, Blackfriarsâon 2nd: November, between 12 and 1 o'clock a.m., I was in a fish-shop in Friar Streetâthere was a disturbance outside, and I saw Hawkins lying on the ground bleedingâI went to pick him up, and while I was stooping over him the prisoner struck me twiceâafter I had assisted Hawkins up; the prisoner challenged me to fightâI asked him what he meant, and he ran awayâa few minutes afterwards I was going home with Hawkins, and the prisoner met me and threw this brick (produced) at meâit hit me on my foreheadâI staggered; Hawkins ran to catch me, and the prisoner knocked him downâI was taken to the hospital, and had an operation performed under chloroformâhe was three or four yards from me when he threw the brickâI recognise the prisoner because I have known him a long time, but I never spoke to him beforeâI was in the hospital from 2nd November till 9th AprilâI had not been engaged in the row, I was only passing by.

Prisoner. Q. Did you see me throw the brick.? A. Yes; I never knocked you about or laid a hand on you.

EDWARD HAWKINS . On 2nd November I had a fight with the prisoner, and he knocked me down, kicked me, and ill-used meâJenkins came up, and the prisoner struck him twice and challenged him to fightâJohnson asked him what he meant, and he ran away and searched for this brick, and came up from behind him and threw it at himâI went to Jenkins, and the prisoner struck me and said "Run, Johnnie, run"âI was not quite sober.

Prisoner. You knocked me down. Witness. It is false; I never struck you at allâmy uncle was the first man that was struckâhis name is HarrisâI told you to put a stop to itâI believe there were others helping you to lack mo when I was down, but you are the only one I know by name.

JOHN CREW . I was putting up some shutters in Friar Street and saw a bother near the eel-shopâI did not see the prisoner then, but about 12.30 I saw him pick a brick upâhe put it behind him, walked three or four yards, and heaved it at Jenkinsâit struck him on his forehead, and he fell against the wallâthe prisoner then knocked the other gentleman down, and then he walked a little way and ran off.

Prisoner. I don't know the boy.

EDWARD HARTLAND (Policeman). On 2nd November, I was in Friar Street, and saw the prisoner in a crowdâwhen I got up they were? going awayâI saw Jenkins standing at the bottom of Friar Street, and saw the prisoner strike him twiceâhe said something, and the prisoner said, "You b----if I can't beat you one way, I will another"âI went up to Jenkins and saw that he was bleeding from his foreheadâI had not seen, the prisoner do anything to himâI picked up this brick and gave it to Jenkins' father, who gave it back to me.

Prisoner. I ran to you and asked you for assistance as I am only a little man, and you said "Go away go away!" Witness. You never spoke to me.

JOHN LASSEY MORLEY . In November last I was house surgeon at Guy's HospitalâJenkins was admitted there on the morning of February 3rd, suffering from a wound on his forehead about two inches longâI removed a portion of the bone, under chloroformâhis life was in dangerâon 18th. March, he was put under chloroform again, and another operation was performed for the purpose of closing the woundâthis brick would produce' the woundâthe bone there is divided into two portions, and the upper layer had to be removedâif the brick had alighted on another part of the skull it would probably have killed him on the spot, great force must have been used.

STEPHEN MERONEY (Detective Officer). I took the prisoner at a public-house in Shoreditch on 19th AprilâI told him the charge, he said "I don't know anything about it"âI took him to Stones End, and then he said "I know what you want me for, I am guilty." 1

Prisoner. You arrested me and my uncle. Witness. Yes, I was not certain which of you it wasâI did not say that I wanted another one if I could get himâI did not ask you what other name you went byâyou did not say "I threw no brick"âI did not know you beforeâI only took you from the description.

The Prisoner's Statement before the Magistrate: "I did not do it."

Prisoner's Defence. I hope you will take it into consideration, that there were three large men on me who call themselves fighting men, as for this"" man he is always fighting drunk. I came home from Deptford, from hard work, and I am to be insulted and knocked down.

GUILTY * on the Second Countâ Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.

Before Mr. Recorder.

378. WILLIAM WILLIAMS (30) , Robbery on Robert Fenton, and stealing from his person 20l., his moneys.

MR. SIMSconducted the Prosecution; andMR. SLEIGHthe Defence.

ROBERT FENTON . I am a commercial traveller, of Elizabeth Street, Walworthâabout 12.30 on the morning of 29th April, I was was going down the London Roadâwhen I got near the South London Music Hall,

two men overtook me and walked one on each side of meâone of them made a remark about the play thereâI turned and looked at them very hardâwhen we got to the corner of York Street they threw me against the shutters of a shop and picked my pocketsâthe prisoner was on my left sideâI had 15l. in gold in a purse in one of the pockets of my trousers, and 5l. note in the otherâafter they had pinned me, I called out "Police!" as loud as I couldâa policeman came from the opposite side and followed them round the cornerâthey ran up York Streetâthe prisoner was afterwards brought back to meâI said that is one of the menâI was afterwards shown this purse (produced)âit contained the 15l. in gold.

Cross-examined. I waited until the man was brought back by the police-constableâI did not run after them, because I could notâI saw them run awayâI lost sight of the prisoner completely for a minute or twoâI am sure I had 20l. upon meâI changed a cheque in the morning for 20l.âI did not leave it at home, as I had no one there and I thought it would be safer in my pocketâI saw it safe about 8.30 or 9 o'clockâI was at my niece's from 4 until 11 o'clock on the previous eveningâI am sure I had the money safe before I saw the men, because I walked with my hands in my pocketsâI had not been into any houses after I left my niece's, and I had only had 2d. worth of gin to drinkâI will swear I was perfectly soberâI might have had two or three glasses of gin and water.

Re-examined. I was sober when this happenedâI know the prisoner took the purse out of my pocket.

CHARLES PEPPERDAY (Policeman L 201). Between 12 and 1 o'clock on the morning of 29th April I was on duty in London Road, and I heard a cry of "Police!" onceâI went in the direction of the cry, and I saw the prisoner and a man not in custody holding the prosecutor up against some shuttersâit was a moonlight nightâI am sure the prisoner was one of themâI went towards themâthe prisoner was the first to run awayâhe was about five or six yards in front of the other man, as they were running down York StreetâI followed them and sprang my rattleâthey turned up London Street, and I lost sight of themâcom York Street into London Street is only about 40 yards, and that was the only time I lost sight of themâI saw the prisoner again in London Road in custody of 129 Hâaltogether that was not two minutes and a half from the time they startedâwhen I got up to him and said "This is the one," he said "You have made a mistake; I only ran because the others ran"âwe took him up York Streetâthe prosecutor identified him at once, and charged him with stealing two purses out of his pocket, one containing 15l., and the other a 5l. noteâthe prisoner said at the station "I can easily clear myself"âhe gave his name William Williams.

Cross-examined. At the time the prosecutor was pinned against the shutters there were no other people aboutâwhen I first saw them they were about 140 yards from meâI said at the police court "I was about 250 yards off when I heard the prosecutor call 'Police!' and the closest I got to the prisoner was about 150 yards"âthe prosecutor was very much excitedâI said at the police court that he was a little the worse for drinkâI did not hear the Magistrate order him out of court and tell him he had been drinkingâhe was very much excited and he was ordered out of court because he had his hands in his pocketsâhe was not put in the cells, he went away of his own accord and came back again at 1 o'clock.

Re-examined. After having given the distances at the Police Court, I went and measured themâit was 140 and not 150 yards from the place where I first saw them, and 90 yards was the nearest I got to the prisonerâthe prosecutor was not drunkâhe might have had some drink.

BENJAMIN POLLEYN (Policeman M 129). While on duty in the London, Road about 12.45 on the morning of 29th April, I heard cries of "Police!"âI proceeded towards the Elephant and Castle a distance of about 200 or 300 yards before I got up to the corner of London Street, London RoadâI heard a rattle sprung directly I got to the corner, and the prisoner and a man not in custody came rushing up to the carmenâI got hold of them both and said, "What are you running for?"âI got no reply, and they got away from meâI pursued the prisoner about 30 or 40 yards, and caught himâI do not know which way the other man wentâPepperday then came up and said, "That is the man, hold him! I believe he has, robbed a man up in York Street"âthe prisoner said nothing to thatâwe took him back to the prosecutor who identified him and charged him with stealing his moneyâwe took him to the stationâhe was searched, and 4s. 6d. and 1 1/2 d. was found upon himâI afterwards went over the ground at 4 o'clock in the morning in company of two other constables, and I found this purse there in the condition in which it is nowâthis part of it I found first lying about thirty yards from the London Road, on the right hand side of the street, in the gutterâthe other part of it was very near the place where I first got hold of him, in London Street.

Cross-examined. I heard the prosecutor give his evidence at the Police Court, and say that he was a commercial traveller out of employment.

Prisoner's Defence. I was very drunk at the time; the doctor can prove it.

GUILTY **â Eighteen Months' Imprisonment.

Before Robert Malcolm Kerr, Esg;.

379. CHARLES DORRETT (26), PLEADED GUILTY to three indictments; for forging and uttering cheques for the payment of 16l. 10s., 52l. 10s., and, 87l. 10s. with intent to defraudâ Five Years' Penal Servitude.

Before Mr. Common Serjeant.

380. JOHN GEORGE LAWRENCE (24) , Robbery with violence on George Gardner, and stealing his watch.

MR. BUCKconducted the Prosecution.

GEORGE GARDNER . I live at 24, Bond Street, Commercial Road, and am a tailorâon the night of 16th April, I was walking at the top of the New, Cut, by Westminster Road, between 9 and 10 o'clockâthe prisoner passed close by me and with both his hands he snapped my chainâhe left part of it hanging and ran away with my watchâI ran after him and called "Stop thief!"âhe turned down York Street, and when I came up with him he was in the custody of the policeâI only lost sight of him for about two minutesâI charged himâhe said "There is the watch," and the policeman took it, from himâthis is it (produced).

Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I could not swear to your face, but I am; pretty positive you are the chap that took my watchâI only lost sight of you momentarily.

WILLIAM ALDER . I live at 140, York Road, and manage a shop in the

Lower Marsh, Lambeth, about 9.30 on Tuesday, 16th April, the prisoner and four men came into my shopâthey were in and out of the shopâthe prisoner went out as the prosecutor was passing and hit him and knocked; him up against a box of eggs I had got in the gutter, and pulled the watch out of his pocketâit was done in a moment, and he was off into the roadâI followed the prisoner a moment afterwards and found him in the custody of a constableâthe man who took the watch was the same man I saw in custody.

Cross-examined by the Prisoner. I swear you were one of the fire men that came into my shopâyou turned down York Street, and I lost sight of you as you turned the corner.

DONALD MOLLOY (Policeman L 209). I saw the prisoner running in York Street, pursued by a crowdâI caught himâhe was going very fastâthis watch was given me by a boy named Owenâthe prosecutor came up and charged him with robbing him of his watchâit took several constables to take the prisoner to the station.

GUILTY .

He alsoPLEADED GUILTYto having been before convicted in

September, 1873â Twelve Months' Imprisonment.

381. GEORGE LLOYD (22), JAMES MEAD (19), JAMES NEWTON (17) , Unlawfully having in their possession sixteen counterfeit shillings with intent to utter them; to which

LLOYD PLEADED GUILTY â Nine Months' Imprisonment.

MESSRS. POLANDandPLOWDENconducted the Prosecution.

ELIZABETH BROWN . I keep the Spread Eagle, Pratt Street, Lambethâon; the night of 20th April, about 10.30, Newton came in for 1d. worth of tobacco and tendered a bad shilling in paymentâI tried to break it at onceâhe asked me not to break it as he had just taken it, and he would get it changed if I did not break itâI gave it him back and he gave back the tobacco and leftâI believe this (produced) is the same shillingâI saw him; at the police-station the same night a little after 11 o'clock.

ABRAHAM BUNTON (Policeman L 128). On the night of 20th April, just before 11 o'clock, I was in the Westminster Roadâa woman called my attention to the prisoners, who were together on the opposite side of the roadâit was about a quarter of a mile from the Spread EagleâI saw Newton and Lloyd looking into the Dover Castle public-house, and Mead crossed on towards the opposite side of the way and halted in the middle of the roadâhe then went towards the Crown and Cushion and waited for a second, the others crossed the road and joined him, and they all three went into the Crown and CushionâI called two other constables, and we went in and took them all in custodyâI found on Newton a good sixpence and 7d. in copper;âhe said, he wished he had not met the others.

DANIEL ARCHER (Policeman L R 4). I took Mead and searched him, and found this bad bent shilling on himâhe said that he found it in the Westminster Bridge Road on the SaturdayâI found two good sixpences and 1 1/2 d.

Mead. I told a falsehood for the purpose of being let goâI did not know it was bad when Newton gave it to meâI put it in my pocket for a curiosity.

CHARLES MILLMAN (Policeman L 127). I took Lloyd at the Crown and Cushion, searched him and found three packets in the lining of his coat behind, containing sixteen counterfeit shillings, with tissue paper between them, and a rag round themâI also found a good sixpence and 6 1/2 d. in copper.

WILLIAM WEBSTER . I am inspector of coin to Her Majesty's Mintâthis is a bad shillingâthese sixteen shillings are also badâamongst them are nine from the same mould as the one uttered.

Mead's Defence, I did not know it was bad moneyâI did not know that, Lloyd had the 16s. in his possession.

Newton's Defence. I did not know the shilling was bad when I went in for the tobacco.