I'm not entirely sure why the writers feel the need to push the "zomg Renly is teh *****!" angle so much. It served only as a setup for showing Margeary (sp?) as a cold, calculating opportunist who's really only married to Renly for the political advantages (which, of course, is clearly shown later when she marries Joffrey after Renly is assassinated). And, of course, it wasn't in the books (I'm starting to grow tired of this criticism myself, so I'll try to avoid it in the future).

They could have easily characterized Margeary without all the time wasted on the two shirtless men romping around in the sheets. Plus, given that Renly gets assassinated in the almost immediate future, it feels like wasted effort. I guess we'll just have to see if this pans out into anything or not, but my feeling is that it wont, and the writers just inserted it (double entendre!) to be "edgy", or something.

Also, because it must be stated factually for the record: in order of descending hotness: 1. Dany (dark-haired) 2. Melisandre 3. Shae 4. Margeary 4. Gilly

I'm not entirely sure why the writers feel the need to push the "zomg Renly is teh *****!" angle so much. It served only as a setup for showing Margeary (sp?) as a cold, calculating opportunist who's really only married to Renly for the political advantages (which, of course, is clearly shown later when she marries Joffrey after Renly is assassinated). And, of course, it wasn't in the books (I'm starting to grow tired of this criticism myself, so I'll try to avoid it in the future).

They could have easily characterized Margeary without all the time wasted on the two shirtless men romping around in the sheets. Plus, given that Renly gets assassinated in the almost immediate future, it feels like wasted effort. I guess we'll just have to see if this pans out into anything or not, but my feeling is that it wont, and the writers just inserted it (double entendre!) to be "edgy", or something.

No doubt you have the same qualms about all the gratuitous heterosexual *** scenes that were added to the show, too.

I'm being a little tongue-in-cheek, but really, I don't see anything with Renly that they haven't already done with other characters. Its HBO; it's pretty much company policy that every other character be involved in some sort of *** romp. Also, there needs to be two such romps per episode. Sure, it's not wholly necessary, but you might as well have gotten on board by now. They might just want a character that folks will root for because of his sexuality whom they can promptly kill off to drive yet another stake through their hearts. Who knows.

The bit with Renly seemed too drawn out, though I do like they direction they went with Margeary. Tyrion's scenes more or less followed the book and Dinkledge is one of the better actors in the show, so I didn't have much in the way of complaints there. Though the way they're dealing with Shea, while it gets the point across, doesn't have the same feel to it as the book. I'd actually like to have seen more of Aria's stuff. They condensed about five or six chapters down into a ten minutes scene, a scene that felt a bit rushed. Aside from that, even though not much is going on in the book at this point with Dany, it would have been nice to have at least seen her. Overall I enjoyed it, but it could have been better.

I'm not entirely sure why the writers feel the need to push the "zomg Renly is teh *****!" angle so much. It served only as a setup for showing Margeary (sp?) as a cold, calculating opportunist who's really only married to Renly for the political advantages (which, of course, is clearly shown later when she marries Joffrey after Renly is assassinated). And, of course, it wasn't in the books (I'm starting to grow tired of this criticism myself, so I'll try to avoid it in the future).

They could have easily characterized Margeary without all the time wasted on the two shirtless men romping around in the sheets. Plus, given that Renly gets assassinated in the almost immediate future, it feels like wasted effort. I guess we'll just have to see if this pans out into anything or not, but my feeling is that it wont, and the writers just inserted it (double entendre!) to be "edgy", or something.

Gratuitous *** *** I guess. I was a bit surprised, not with the *** scene, as that had been alluded to somewhat in the book and it's HBO, but by Margery's accedence to the relationship. Also the actress has a funny look - a sideways smirk or something that gives her a very condescending air.

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Also, because it must be stated factually for the record: in order of descending hotness: 1. Dany (dark-haired) 2. Melisandre 3. Shae 4. Margeary 4. Gilly

Really Melisandre? She's old, evil and has a bad dye job. I'm probably not a great judge of female hotness, but I'd stick Sansa in first or second place.

I just don't think they have enough episodes to fit everything in. It's a shame. I have a nagging fear that we're going to be left unsatisfied at the end.

I've been pretty unsatisfied with all the episodes so far this season. The hour long show feels like it's just a mash of highlights.

If it 'wasn't for the cool opening music and scenery, last weeks recap would blend right into this weeks previews.

I'm starting to consider the strategy of ignoring the show until the season is over, then plowing through all 10 episodes back-to-back-to-back. That seems to be the only way to really absorb everything and follow all of the myriad storylines.

I just don't think they have enough episodes to fit everything in. It's a shame. I have a nagging fear that we're going to be left unsatisfied at the end.

I've been pretty unsatisfied with all the episodes so far this season. The hour long show feels like it's just a mash of highlights.

If it 'wasn't for the cool opening music and scenery, last weeks recap would blend right into this weeks previews.

I'm starting to consider the strategy of ignoring the show until the season is over, then plowing through all 10 episodes back-to-back-to-back. That seems to be the only way to really absorb everything and follow all of the myriad storylines.

Having read the books, I'm not having that problem, but I still prefer watching through a DVD set rather than waiting every week for a new episode. It always seems to be more satisfying that way, and I have a tendency to miss random episodes during the weekly format. Plus, it takes care of the obnoxious cliffhanger problem.

Honestly, I don't know how anyone watched Lost as a weekly show. That must have been torture.

Really Melisandre? She's old, evil and has a bad dye job. I'm probably not a great judge of female hotness, but I'd stick Sansa in first or second place.

I wouldn't say evil. Misguided, definitely. Also she's only 35!

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Elinda wrote:

I'm probably not a great judge of female hotness, but I'd stick Sansa in first or second place.

But she's apparently only 16, so we won't be seeing any TnA from her.

Yeah, young actress is young.

Hmm, yes. It didn't dawn on me which girls could portray the steamy scenes of their characters. So many of the women are young in the books. Danys is only like 14 and I think Margery is only 17 when she marries Renly.

Really Melisandre? She's old, evil and has a bad dye job. I'm probably not a great judge of female hotness, but I'd stick Sansa in first or second place.

I wouldn't say evil. Misguided, definitely. Also she's only 35!

TirithRR wrote:

Elinda wrote:

I'm probably not a great judge of female hotness, but I'd stick Sansa in first or second place.

But she's apparently only 16, so we won't be seeing any TnA from her.

Yeah, young actress is young.

Hmm, yes. It didn't dawn on me which girls could portray the steamy scenes of their characters. So many of the women are young in the books. Danys is only like 14 and I think Margery is only 17 when she marries Renly.

Yeah but the girls who play them aren't under age, so it's fine to look at their tits.

It is not only important that Maergary is known as calculating. It's very very important to what she later does that she is widely believed to be a continuing virgin. Her virginity counts in her possibilities, given the society.

It's really them just sexting up the subplots that were hinted at in the books. Renly may have been a poof and Margery may have not been a virgin- but on HBO he's full on *** and everyone seems to know it & Margery's a bit of a *****- albeit calculating like her Grandma. Can't wait to see her go up against another conniving ***** later on.

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