Well, just help me not get run out of online matches. I've never really played online FPS, but I figure for my $60 investment I should try to get my money's worth. My limited forays online have been pretty fun and I'd like to play some of the different game types that are currently locked to me. I've managed to get to level 4 so I can have custom kits, but beyond that I really am a noob. The last match I played the other guys on my team (I didn't know them) no so kindly "requested" I go hide in a corner because I kept getting killed.

I can play the game - I finished it on hardened - but multi is a totally different animal. For one, I don't know the maps - what's the best way to learn them? Two, I have this fear of team killing. When I go running around and spot a guy off in the distance, I can't always tell if he's on my team, and that hesitation is usually enough for me to get me killed. How do I avoid that? Also, what technically counts as "camping"? It seems in real life you'd want to find good cover and shoot when people approach and be careful about moving up. But in a game this is bad?

First off, just keep playing. I got into COD4 in late December, so I was regularly getting my gluteus maximus handed to me on a regular basis until level 20 or so. Learning the maps is probably one of the most important aspects to getting good - while you could always set up a system link game and run around them by yourself, it's probably better to play with more experienced people, and pay attention to what they do (the killcam is very useful for this) - where the good sniping points are, where the chokepoints are, blind corners, etc.

I tend to stick to Free For All, which eliminates the worry of teamkilling But I think as long as you're not playing one of the hardcore modes, you can't kill your teammates (someone else please correct me if I'm wrong).

As far as camping goes, it's a valid technique - if someone doesn't want to be killed by a "camper", they shouldn't be running around corners like a chicken with it's head cut off.

We've got a semi-regular crew who plays COD4. Best ways to learn the maps are to play and play and play and to play with people who have already played and played and played.

If you fancy rollin with me/us (I'll be back in front of my 360 Saturday night) send me an invite SensuousLettuce.

What days/times do you usually play?

As for camping: It is a legit tactic no doubt, but what really frosts people is when guys camp the same spot the whole match. I pretty much know all the best camping spots on all the maps (save the new ones) but I won't spend the whole match there cause usually everyone knows them.

Don't let trash talkers get you down. They deride any tactic you use whether it's camping or using close quarters weaponry...or if you pwn them all the time with M16.

Yeah... mostly what's been said already, and to second the fact that it doesn't matter what tactic or weapon you use, someone (or a lot of people) are going to yell at you for it.

Hang out and play it safe? Camper. Run around everywhere and get shot? Stupid, go hide in a corner (see also: camp). Use a shotgun? Noob weapon. Use an M-16? Noob weapon. Use the RPD? Noob weapon. Use the M-14? Noob camper. Snipe? Camper. Use a submachine gun? Spray and pray'er. (okay, reaching for that one) Throw grenades? Noob. Get locked into the spawn because everyone on your team gets killed the instant you spawn? Camper. And on and on.

Play with people from GT/OO/QT3/Friends/etc. Don't hesitate to mute idiots. Learn the maps... by playing. Expect that sometimes (a lot in the beginning) you are going to get slaughtered. Just pay attention to when/where/how, especially by watching the kill cams.

Yeah... mostly what's been said already, and to second the fact that it doesn't matter what tactic or weapon you use, someone (or a lot of people) are going to yell at you for it.

Hang out and play it safe? Camper. Run around everywhere and get shot? Stupid, go hide in a corner (see also: camp). Use a shotgun? Noob weapon. Use an M-16? Noob weapon. Use the RPD? Noob weapon. Use the M-14? Noob camper. Snipe? Camper. Use a submachine gun? Spray and pray'er. (okay, reaching for that one) Throw grenades? Noob. Get locked into the spawn because everyone on your team gets killed the instant you spawn? Camper. And on and on.

Play with people from GT/OO/QT3/Friends/etc. Don't hesitate to mute idiots. Learn the maps... by playing. Expect that sometimes (a lot in the beginning) you are going to get slaughtered. Just pay attention to when/where/how, especially by watching the kill cams.

Yep teggy, just add us regular COD4 folk to your friends list and get started. Also for extra 1337ness you must have a clever clan tag name.......uh I guess when you level up enough to earn one

Yeah... mostly what's been said already, and to second the fact that it doesn't matter what tactic or weapon you use, someone (or a lot of people) are going to yell at you for it.

Hang out and play it safe? Camper. Run around everywhere and get shot? Stupid, go hide in a corner (see also: camp). Use a shotgun? Noob weapon. Use an M-16? Noob weapon. Use the RPD? Noob weapon. Use the M-14? Noob camper. Snipe? Camper. Use a submachine gun? Spray and pray'er. (okay, reaching for that one) Throw grenades? Noob. Get locked into the spawn because everyone on your team gets killed the instant you spawn? Camper. And on and on.

Play with people from GT/OO/QT3/Friends/etc. Don't hesitate to mute idiots. Learn the maps... by playing. Expect that sometimes (a lot in the beginning) you are going to get slaughtered. Just pay attention to when/where/how, especially by watching the kill cams.

Yep teggy, just add us regular COD4 folk to your friends list and get started. Also for extra 1337ness you must have a clever clan tag name.......uh I guess when you level up enough to earn one

One of the ways I keep myself entertained while dying far too often is coming up with new, creative, or applicable clan tags for the situation at hand. If we're playing against a fairly obnoxious, immature clan then I will almost always adopt their clan tag for a few games, and that almost always results in absolute hilarity. Sometimes my clan tag will reflect my beverage of choice for the evening ("beer" "wine" "booz" etc). At other times it has reflected my unwillingness to pick up the in-laws at the airport (InLw), while in other instances it has reflected my poor play (AWFL). My clan tag almost always depends on my mood, but rarely will you see the same tag twice.

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Beauty is only skin deep. Which is why I take very good care of my skin.

Heck.... I've been playing since November, and I'm off and on again with skill. In other words I'll go 4 and 29 last night when some idiots were using map exploints agianst us, 10-12 most games, and then every now and then rail off a 20 - 6 masterpiece.

But mostly I'm pretty mediocre, but the guys here are great and don't judge me for it at all. I highly encourage getting us on your friends list and you'll have a great time.

Yeah, getting into some matches with you guys would be great. I don't have set playtimes really at the moment (evenings eastern if I have the time, some weekends) but I can look for you guys. Is there a good list of COD4 gamertags on GT? I still haven't been added to Purge's big list.

Yeah, getting into some matches with you guys would be great. I don't have set playtimes really at the moment (evenings eastern if I have the time, some weekends) but I can look for you guys. Is there a good list of COD4 gamertags on GT? I still haven't been added to Purge's big list.

at this point, with all the XP/perks/unlocks/whatever that people have, is it even worth it for a first time player to jump in? the way the one FAQ I read reads makes it sound like a level 1 guy would be horribly outgunned.

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Every time someone hits 55+ and flips they are level 1 and lose all their gear so there will often be low level people playing, they just have experience with the maps and game.

In addition, from the time I'm level 6, I'm already maxed on all the perks and weapons I use throughout all 55 levels with the exception of the bandolier that comes at 32.

I very much disagree that a level 55 is any better than a level 10 or so. Some of the best performing weapons, m16, rpd, mp5 are starter weapons and by level 10 you can have red dots and grips on all of them.

Someone that knows all the maps inside and out could win with just a pistol and no perks against someone who is level 55 and has never played on a particular map.

Most of the truly game changing perks are early, the later ones are more of a style choice for people who don't just shoot. Claymores, martyrdom, last stand, change the way you play the game, but not really how effective you are imo. Martyrdom helps you get a kill for every couple deaths, but it's not hard to work around opponents using it.

If the starting weapons had sucked, I'd agree with you that a late comer would be at a severe disadvantage, but as it is if you can get your map time in and your controls down you'll be fine.

Also, as COD4 continues to be the #1 seller there are lots of brand new low ranked players in the game even 6 months after release so you'll be in good company. And believe it or not, a lot of the vets still playing are willing to give pointers and help new folks out. There are many people I've played with with high prestiges who kind of frown upon talking crap to new players and chastise those who do (like I do). But, to be fair, there are lots of vets who S talk newbs mercilessly. This usually results in me smoking them out of retribution!

Lastly, many of the COD4 vets have tuckered out their play with the game and have moved onto vegas or other games.

For me.. getting some good "kits" is the key. I have different ones for different maps... but I always go back the old Standby, M4, red dot, extra stuns, martyrdom, and stopping power I think.

Play conservatively.. running and gunning is a death wish in this game.

Don't worry about ranks. I'm at 41, and I am 98 percent of the time in the top 3 on my team. I routinely pwn guys higher than me. This all with a "kit" I've been using since the mid 20's. If you play smart, and learn the maps.. you'll do better than fine. I'm certainly no FPS master, and I can hold my own. I laugh at guys with their pea shooter P90's and such. Lately, I've been having a blast lugging around the LMG's, and bringing havoc.

If you can play with the peeps here, you will get better really fast.. as well as have a lot more fun.

Well, I got some playtime in last night thanks to USMC Kato, JarrodHK and MSDuncan (and no thanks to Harkonis, who killed me )

Definitely less pressure playing that way although I don't know if I improved much just yet. I never managed to string 2 kills together, although I didn't come in last place every time. Next thing to concentrate on will be to keep moving after a kill - too often after a kill I think I start looking around instead of moving to cover. One would assume that since I have just given my position away someone on the other team is heading over to get me.

I also need to work on switching to my secondary. A few times I got the bead on an enemy and ran out of ammo while I was trying to gun them down. While I was reloading I got smoked.

Learning the maps will take some time. Part of my problem is that, as someone who hasn't played much online FPS, I don't really know what makes one spot good and other spot bad (other than knowing not to stay out in the open). It looks like there are a lot of good videos on youtube, so I might look at those at my leisure.

One of the more advanced skill sets needed is to conserve ammo and make sure you put someone down in as few bullets as possible. I wouldn't focus on it when just starting, but it is something to keep in your mind.

Part of the reason I do as well as I do is because I don't have to reload often, and I can stretch my ammo out for awhile as well. When I face down 3v1 situations, I rarely have to reload or switch weapons before I'm either dead or they are Being able to control the recoil is huge imo. I see a lot of people who will use an entire clip 1v1 and then get tagged reloading by the second player who approaches. Short controlled bursts can help prevent this from happening. Pull the trigger 3-4 times during your fight instead of holding it down for 2-3 seconds like you probably do. Unless you're using a spraying weapon like the p90, you'll have a greater chance of getting a kill with the bursts.

Another tip I've found is that when using the M16 on a moving target, you can sweep the gun slightly while firing the burst and you get a much greater chance of hitting. You just have to be very easy on all stick movements.

I play on 6 sensitivity currently and am working my way back up to 8 which is where I used to play at.

I've started playing CoD4 MP on the PC. Massive battles, mouse/keyboard controls... 5 hours in and I'm loving it!

let me tell you, when a server had 50+ slots open and has them regularly filled they should not be having 'Shipment' in the map rotation. I think at one point everyone playing had 100+ deaths in one game of Team DM on that map- it was so crowded people were spawning on top of their enemies!

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I've started playing CoD4 MP on the PC. Massive battles, mouse/keyboard controls... 5 hours in and I'm loving it!

let me tell you, when a server had 50+ slots open and has them regularly filled they should not be having 'Shipment' in the map rotation. I think at one point everyone playing had 100+ deaths in one game of Team DM on that map- it was so crowded people were spawning on top of their enemies!

Even with 1337 mouse/keyboard you have more deaths than kills Yes, I went there, but only because I'm jealous about the controls.

As an aside, I find the 360 controls very comfortable and this is the first game that makes me feel fine about fps on a console. Combined with the overly crowded mp games and lack of rankings and live and I definitely prefer 360 gaming to PC now.

As an update, I have stuck with it and I have made it to level 11. I'm definitely improving - I am now ending up in 2nd or 3rd from last place instead of last . I have also had some positive k/d ratios, although I have not broken 100 pts in a round yet, which is my next goal. I have also pulled off 2 4 kill streaks. I really wanted to get an air strike but both times I got a little anxious and got myself killed. The other thing I want to do short-term is get the red dot sight for the m4.

I'm also starting to learn some of the maps. I'm much more partial to the ones where there is plenty of cover and room to room fighting - Creek, District, Downpour, etc. I don't like the maps where there's very little cover and it's easy to just get shot at across the map without having a chance. I hate Countdown. Showdown should also not be played with 12 people. I don't mind Bog - it has a big open area, but there is a lot of cover and some routes you can take around the edge where the buildings are.

I wish they would put stats up online, it seems like that wouldn't be that hard to do.

Even with 1337 mouse/keyboard you have more deaths than kills Yes, I went there, but only because I'm jealous about the controls.

that's the only complaint I have about the server I've been playing on: the shipment map is murder on everyones Kill to death ratios. That map must have been made for 10 players max- even with 20 players we were practically spawning on top of each other. With 50 players alot of time you're lucky to make it a few steps before dying, and the Martyr perk makes it even more hellacious.

I laughed out loud at the one challenge that gave you XP for falling 30 feet to your death.

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Would have invited you but it looked like you were all up into Burnout...should we invite you anyway when you're not playing COD4?

Well, you can, but I might say wait about a week. Reason being that my wireless adapter basically doesn't work for multiplayer so I have to string an ethernet cable across the room when I want to play. To get around this I have ordered a different kind of wireless adapter that I hope is going to solve this problem, and I should have it in about a week. Then I need to see if MS will accept my current adapter as defective, which I really think it is.

I'll post about it when I am all set up.

I actually was only planning on playing Burnout for about a half hour last night, but then I had a change of plans and wound up getting sucked into it. Games with no logical stopping points are dangerous!

Got my red dot sights for the M4 and the M16 tonight and moved up to level 14 (and got the all-important clan tag ability). Also got through a few rounds over 100 points, but still haven't beaten a kill streak of 4. Arggh!