The New York Post is facing criticism over its decision to publish a front-page photo of a man, pushed onto the subway tracks in Midtown on Monday, trying to climb to safety before being fatally struck by an oncoming train.

Ki Suk Han, a 58-year-old from Queens, N.Y., was hurled from the 49th Street station platform onto the tracks by "a deranged man" around 12:30 p.m., according to the paper. Han was attempting to calm the man, apparently a panhandler, when a scuffle broke out, police say. The man then pushed him onto the tracks.

Witnesses told police the man had been harassing people on the platform. "At least one witness felt that the aggressor was emotionally disturbed," NYPD spokesman Paul Browne told The New York Times.

Maybe this is off topic but at many subway stations in Beijing and Shanghai this could not possibly happen because the tracks are separated from the platform by plexiglass windows. Who is the third world and who is the first?

Maybe this is off topic but at many subway stations in Beijing and Shanghai this could not possibly happen because the tracks are separated from the platform by plexiglass windows. Who is the third world and who is the first?

NYC is full of deranged people whom Bloomberg has prevented the police from going after. They all need to be in involuntary committal in hospitals. Giuliani fought very hard to get some of the worst of them put away, but the judges kept letting them out...even after they had killed people.

A lot of the worst and most aggressive ones are black, and they often attack Asians or white women because they perceive them as weak. They used to attack Hispanics, but a few knife-carrying Dominicans made them drop that plan and seek “safer” victims.

When they catch this guy, I guarantee he’ll be out in no time at all. Caught by the police and released by the judicial system.

Btw, my sister and I were attacked by a black loony on a subway train....and the passengers who came to our aid were black. I especially remember one older couple who came forward even though it looked to me like they would have been no physical match for the attacker. But that’s what bravery is about, and they bought us enough time to get to the next station.

So the racial aspect is in the mind of the loony because crazy people are always looking for so,etching to “justify” their madness.

Put them away (with review procedures) and give them treatment. This man’s death was unnecessary.

In Florida we have the Baker Act which permits a person to be detained if “He poses a danger to himself or others”. I would presume that this is the case in almost every other jurisdiction under different names. Our problem is that history has shown the ‘institutionalizing’ of the afflicted in a very poor light especially when the government uses a very liberal policy of commitment. From this policy comes the cases exposed in “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest”. Yet, those extremes still leave the acute psychotics and paranoiacs who have no support structures and ARE A DANGER to the innocent public.

Obviously, a method and separation must be found but in the real world, the advocates for extreme rights for these deranged persons and the costs of incarceration weigh heavily against anything being done. God bless this man for his efforts and my prayers for his family and friends.

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posted on 12/04/2012 4:29:15 PM PST
by SES1066
(Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)

Rush showed traces of the ‘old’ Rush today, using absurdity to point out the absurd (Costas)- he used this one saying we can’t blame the pusher, we have to blame the train cause if it wasn’t running etc etc etc...

Rush kind of ‘attacked’ everything that had a remote chance of being involved in a violent crime, always shifting the ‘blame’ from the doer to an object that was there — and suggesting that Costas run a commentary on the evils of the innate object.

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posted on 12/04/2012 4:44:25 PM PST
by xrmusn
(6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")

The poor man. I have always stayed well back from the edge of the platform. Call me paranoid, but there are too many nuts out there.

Yeah, me too. I don't take trains/subways very often. Recently I was in Britain taking a train from Portsmouth to London and back and there were "Wanted" signs posted everywhere asking for help in solving a similar crime where some unlucky commuter was pushed to their death onto the tracks.

Maybe this is off topic but at many subway stations in Beijing and Shanghai this could not possibly happen because the tracks are separated from the platform by plexiglass windows. Who is the third world and who is the first?

NY City could add plexiglass windows, but it would need a $2 billion grant from the Federal Gov't. Its not excessive when you have the most expensive Gov't in the world.

That was (ahem) questionable editorial judgement. But not unique. Many moons ago — I’d guess late 1970’s, because I was visiting my parents back home — our intrepid southern Indiana beacon of journalism ran a front page pic of a man, still in the car, who had burned to death in an auto accident. Toasted to a crisp. From the posture and the scream seared on his face, he had died in the fire, trying to escape, not from impact. He had a wife and two kids, who must have seen the photo. There was some grumbling in town that the editor should have thought twice.

I live in the sticks and have never been near a subway or a platform, and I mean no disrespect to the victim here.

But it appears to me that he is standing next to the chest-high platform. Am I seeing it wrong—is it possible that he is not standing but rather dangling?—or is it really the case that he is unable to pull himself up over a four-and-a-half-foot ledge?

Is the surface possibly very slippery? Or perhaps it happened in a split-second? The still photo makes it look like he is standing and contemplating his fate.

When I was a teenager, the first time I ever traveled on the NYC subway system unaccompanied by adults was December 22, 1984. I think most New Yorkers who have been around a long time and travel the subway system regularly have that date etched in their memories.

I haven't been on the subway in several years now. I hate everything about it.

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