About the most recent drama.

As most of you guys already know, James, K3kZ and Burak have been banned for an indefenitely period of time yesterday around 19:47. The reasons are that they were continuously insulting, disregarding races, violently insinuating that some of our users shouldn't even have basic human rights and threatening with real life stuff. In conclusion, they were behaving in a way we couldn't accept.

After the bans took place, the Section Leaders, that is Rio, Barbawix, and myself, got a nice message from them. Nothing interesting in those messages (if you know what I'm talking about), except the part that they asked for their pictures being removed from the forums or otherwise they would contact the police and set copyright claims. After we read these, we inmediately got in contact with the Administration, and we decided to take down the Carball Subforum until everything would be cleared out. Apart from this, James by the time had already been kicked out of the membership due to an abusement of rights and for the behaviour he prior showed.

As you know, K3kZ and Burak managed to do the card's cars that you liked a lot. And James had done other stuff regarding the competitive scene, that is his tables, logos, and others.

We are sad to announce that we have removed every single card from every club's thread and from the Neon Carball Player Cards' thread itself. However worry not, we have already found many trustable guys who are willing to create them again!

You may also have noticed that most of the current League Season 4 threads are deleted, but don't worry, the League will continue as we have recreated the threads all over which you can check here!

We have tried to make the colors comfortable-to-see even if you are at night, evading colors like pure yellow, red, green and pink.

Needless to say, James is no longer an organiser of the current League and the Section Lead will be taking over for the rest of the League. Also worth mentioning than the three of them, James, K3kZ and Burak, can do an unban request in the future, they aren't blocked from doing so.

Thanks for reading, we hope you support us and stick with us and hopefully end the League in a way that is rememberable! Section Lead.

[img=http://i.imgur.com/PAJvX0w.png][/img]Thanks to @Rio for the signature.

Since the wall of Race escalated quickly, I'm posting everything from the latest discussion down here for further replies (let out all the stupid stuff, keyword: "Disgrace for Carball", "As da fokin hell").

Negan wrote:

Actually, without me no season 4 would have started at all but its nice for me to see your positive reaction about my tournament.^^ And also thanks btw for the reasonless ban, it just showed me how unthankful you all are after the whole work i did over years for u.

Kath wrote:

You did that "whole troublesome super hard work" because you wanted it yourself, though. We don't have to thank anything because we didn't ask for anything that you did, however we really do appreciate your work. If there's something that I have to thank you for, that would be the nice message you left me on skype and then cowardly procceeded to block me and delete me from contacts so I wouldn't have any chance to answer. Thank you for that, and for the message itself, also a big thanks for the way you used the message I sent you as a friend-request to make me look as the bad guy, although your ban was a groupal decision and you're just playing the victim, bye.

Negan wrote:

Of course i was asked from nearly every person on this server when this fucking season 4 starts after the season 3, just because you are not interrested in it you dont have to talk for the community. Yes, you didnt ask for any help. And you think i did it for myself? Think about where these new innovations come from, the cards, the whole season #4 ideas and to involve Legends at the end. As a small spoiler: interviews to players were also planed by me. These were all my ideas, and you just give a fuck about it. And in the meantime you still are crying why the Admins dont script the gamemode on to make it better and so you also dont want to do anything to improve it - just as comparision between us 2. Did u leave me any chance to defense myself? No, you banned me instantly, so why should i keep you in my contact list?

Bass wrote:

What I don't understand: If you told Barbawix, that you felt bullied and got no reaction, why didn't you make it public (in the forum)? Or if that's too much, why didn't you come to us, the administration? And don't come with the argument: Nothing would happen. If you contact Firzen and me and we are able to help, we do it. For me this looks like a wanted situation that begin with a fly and is now a T-Rex... (I'm including the context on your profile here)

Besides this, I'm thankful for your work and I mean that! But from what the section leaders told and showed me, you are no angel, not at all. BUT it's not just you, it's a whole bunch of people, including different users, members AND section leaders. You just pushed each other even more and more in such a situation. But what took the biscuit was the situation at the weekend. Where suddenly Kekz wrote to me, that we should remove your pictures, or you would go to the police and sue us (Neon, as a clan). That is something you don't hurt the people you want to hurt at all with, it's more like you want to "destroy" (that won't happen) the work of more than 9 years by ex-members, member, moderators, section leaders, administrators and many, many helpful users. And this was the point, where you and Kekz personally (I don't know about Burak yet, got no statement about him from someone) fucked up. Actually for me that's over and done with, if you come to no other conclusion. That's my point to this.

Negan wrote:

I said it often enought in our skype group but not in a big text that this hate against snakes in unneccesary and we also get mostly offended. But as im a "Snake (or the new definition, #SHIT)" it ISNT TRUE what i say and im a FLAMER such as all snakes. There was even a sentence from one in the skype group who said its logic why ppl dont like me anymore, because i joined the most hated club, as if we couldnt change if we get a chance lol. But there is the point, we got no chance. If we did 1 small mistake or went on the provocation against us everything started from 0 again. Well, thats the problem in the mobbing case. If you try to get help you get afterall laught from everyone and such things, you know what i mean, same like it would happen in reallife mobbing. Thats why i tried to talk to Barb because i thought she could help me as i was good with her but she watched over. Then i lost all hope and took it in my hands to mute Hero cuz he started again with this shit and i lost my membership. I just wanted to defend Snakes and to show that this hate should end and that we mean it serious but well, you see what it resulted. We 3 just wanted peace and our fun on this server - and we didnt get this "peace". Even after the ban we got offended such as it wouldn't be enough that we got banned.

ust as you said that we would destroy your work over 9 years. I cant compare it, but do you know now how i feel? I think the same right you, i think im from 2016 now a member, not over 9 years but still more than 1 year and have put also very much work in it, and i did one small mistake and all this work is ignored and i got treated like a criminal. As far as i know Keks just wrote it after we got all banned (maybe im wrong idk yet). We didnt want to destroy your full clan, it was just about his cards and Buraks Graphics. Because he saw no reason why we get so hard disrespected althought we were doing so much work. Thats why he wanted the cards and such things to be deleted. And why do you take me with in the pot? About kekz idk what happened first but i was first banned and then i said my table and my top lists should be removed. Especially I did at beginning nothing and got banned. Why? I just told Kath about removing my tournament pictures after my ban, what was my ban reason before? I didnt even insulted someone hard, where is my ban reason? And Buraks? About Kekz i already said that i can understand him, he just wanted his pictures, his own work to be removed as he got treated like shit. And as i said, you didnt even leave us a chance to defense, i guess thats why things went like that. And in this case everything started with the mobbing towards Snakes.

Barbawix wrote:

First of all i also appriciate your work. Its kinda sad that it had to end like this as we had a nice time together in Legacy and overall. Anyways what u 3 did was way over the top and needed to be punnished. What Hero did there was imo not worth a mute expecially not a 1 day mute. Fact is that u abused your rights and joined later the ragemode. To the mobbing thing, i guess every active player member whoever knows that many people got a problem with Snakes but u also give them stuff to rage make fun of. I cant watch everyone 24/7 and be the personal admin of Snakes. Same as it doesnt help in school to go to the teacher it wont help here. You need to change things, talk to the people also work on yourself as its not only you getting provoked, you can provoke other clubs aswell expecially Buralk. I guess the main reason for the escalation was that i warned Kekz to stop multiple times with his racism expressions. So his rage turned completly against me wich ends in insults and many other things like he works to pay my Hartz 4 wich i dont even receive so it doesnt even make sense . And Burak ye he just joined it. After the ban you threatned Neon to go to the police if we dont delete your creations. Also u kept going in Skype like i could read but that has nothing to do with the case anymore. Im personally done with u after all of this even if its not that easy due to the nice time we had in Zero and expecially in Legacy.

Hero wrote:

You can't just have some members (including you) who rage, flame and insult others all the time especially when kekz is making fun of my religion 24/7 and burak insulting others' families and about rentier, he told me once " fuck your mother ". I don't think you can have all these kiddos then ask why your club is getting too much hate and you think It's reasonless and coming out of no where.

Negan wrote:

First of all Barb, i would have unmuted Hero anyways after the match. It was just about that he should keep his mouth so we play in peace our match. The last time something happened like this was in L vs vT as Ralle provoked us 24/7, he got a ban for it if i remind right. Now suddenly no consequence, oke . And why is it racism what Kekz said? He talked about Human Rights and this are not given due to the dictatorship of egypt, political things. Is that racism? If he would have said that he should have no rights cuz he is black then i would understand it. If Hero would have shut his mouth and left us alone then nothing would have happened. Thats why it escalated, because you left him again making jokes about us. And Hero, im good with most of the ppl and have no reason to "insult them 24/7". But thanks for that lie that im raging all the time. As if ppl dont insult Buraks family and makes jokes about him. If you would not provoke us 24/7 nobody would insult anyone but you just dont want to get it into your head. Especially you should keep out of this discussion because you are the main problem.

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It is our choices, that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities. - Albus Dumbledore
Passwords are like toilet paper. Don't reuse, don't share ones you've used, and no one should be asking to see what you've used. - Unknown

I have been also getting provoked every day and in every match I was playing against #S with "ez" and saying that I'm arab so I shouldn't have an opinion. If you checked the logs for this only, check it also for the past days so you can see the huge amount of clear racism about our nationalities " Arabs ".

Yeah, nice that you post us one example and you are acting like everything would start by us, "daily". Should i start asking the 30 persons of the skype group who started with the trash about Snakes such as gg #S or insulting us? I could also do myself the effort to search the last few months over you and the provocations of the others in skype atleast as i dont have the logs in the forum but im busy atm and dont know if i have the nerves to check out the +100k messages.

I have been also getting provoked every day and in every match I was playing against #S with "ez" and saying that I'm arab so I shouldn't have an opinion. If you checked the logs for this only, check it also for the past days so you can see the huge amount of clear racism about our nationalities " Arabs ".

As far as i know this with the opinion case never happened to you or atleast not daily. The first time i rly noticed it was with hero in these last days. The ez could have been sent in the wrong chat as we are talking very much in our matches by the Team Chat with U as its right beside Z, so it can happen that a message comes wrong to u as we have little time to write. But what i also noticed is that Burak often wrote me via skype that you insulted him on skype and us, and you were also the guy creating Keks card with his face on it. So m8, dont act like the angel.

Yes, i was raging here, no doubt. But also because in the past were taken often wrong ref decisions so we lost huge of points, the match vs scorpions was catastrophal because of the lags it cointained (everyone saw) and now again like all refs would have something against us. As you told me then to shut up then i got on fire because i even had a record that he had some wrong decisions. That i called u Autist wasnt meant in that way because autist is a word i like to use most. As comparision, in german you say as most favorite word "son of a bitch" (atleast its in Austria like that lol). We had no problems together in past and i was always a friend with u and the others from UnS, u know it right. It was just that one moment when i was upset, sry for that.

As an outsider, i see from the logs that James apparently felt bullied about the situation that their goal didn't count. We all know that James is really getting mad when he feels bullied or disrespected, but still his behavior isn't acceptable at all. Even though he might have been provoked, it's not a solution to shoot back.

If we talk about Burak, he never started to get mature. Always the same thing with him, he complains about other people insulting him and/or his family, but insult back with words like "your mom". Again, this is clearly not a good behavior, and its a behavior that harms our community.

And now to Kekz, he is continuously insulting other people's races and countries. He kept making fun of arabs, making racistic jokes, provoking them. I think i don't need to add anything anymore.

Kath also told me that some of the members think about banning Hero. Hero hasn't done anything in this situation except speaking arabic in the main chat. Sure, there are times where he is very annoying but at the end of the day we all laugh and have fun together. I don't think that he deserves a ban.

The conclusion, i think that the bans were totally ok and had to be done, the users need to know their limits and that there a rules which can't be broken without a punishment. I didn't want to act like a member, just felt like i had to tell my opinion. Thank you.

If we talk about Burak, he never started to get mature. Always the same thing with him, he complains about other people insulting him and/or his family, but insult back with words like "your mom". Again, this is clearly not a good behavior, and its a behavior that harms our community.

Look who is talking. Who was the one who ran away because he behaved like a kid and noone likes him now.
Now you are trying to be the good one again in their eyes. You were not even here and you have absolutely no idea what happened. Be Yourself.

If we talk about Burak, he never started to get mature. Always the same thing with him, he complains about other people insulting him and/or his family, but insult back with words like "your mom". Again, this is clearly not a good behavior, and its a behavior that harms our community.

Look who is talking. Who was the one who ran away because he behaved like a kid and noone likes him now.
Now you are trying to be the good one again in their eyes. You were not even here and you have absolutely no idea what happened. Be Yourself.

ps. [img]https://www2.pic-upload.de/img/33372571/ok.png[/img]

You ran away and stopped talking to me 7 months ago, not me. I have a life, thats why i had to be inactive. I've got business to do, you know? I know how to behave properly and i've learned from my mistakes. How many times did you get banned already? When will you learn not to break the rules over and over everytime? I've tried to help you and i've tried to teach you. And out of nowhere, you started blocking me everywhere, never answered back and ignored me. You didn't even wish me a happy birthday. I haven't seen you for months, because you don't want me to. Now tell me, who ran away? And if you post that quote/picture, post the whole thing. I had a reason for that, you know it. I even got punished already for saying that. It's sad that you even screenshotted that thing when we were teammates, so you always had something against me. I hope you know that you're not family to me. I don't have anything to do with traitors. Sad, sad.

If we talk about Burak, he never started to get mature. Always the same thing with him, he complains about other people insulting him and/or his family, but insult back with words like "your mom". Again, this is clearly not a good behavior, and its a behavior that harms our community.

Look who is talking. Who was the one who ran away because he behaved like a kid and noone likes him now.
Now you are trying to be the good one again in their eyes. You were not even here and you have absolutely no idea what happened. Be Yourself.

ps. [img]https://www2.pic-upload.de/img/33372571/ok.png[/img]

You ran away and stopped talking to me 7 months ago, not me. I have a life, thats why i had to be inactive. I've got business to do, you know? I know how to behave properly and i've learned from my mistakes. How many times did you get banned already? When will you learn not to break the rules over and over everytime? I've tried to help you and i've tried to teach you. And out of nowhere, you started blocking me everywhere, never answered back and ignored me. You didn't even wish me a happy birthday. I haven't seen you for months, because you don't want me to. Now tell me, who ran away? And if you post that quote/picture, post the whole thing. I had a reason for that, you know it. I even got punished already for saying that. It's sad that you even screenshotted that thing when we were teammates, so you always had something against me. I hope you know that you're not family to me. I don't have anything to do with traitors. Sad, sad.

Farewell, "cousin".

There are Reasons why i stopped talking to u and u cant call this that i ran away.
You werent inactive.
Who are you that u try to teach me ? Your behavior isnt better.
I didnt wish u a happy birthday ? ofc i did
U havent seen me for months ? Then i want to remind you that we were playing billard together 2 Months ago right ?
I screenshotted it because i wanted to report OziL but u forced me to post this Screenshot against u.
[img]https://www2.pic-upload.de/img/33372701/ok.png[/img]

But what i also noticed is that Burak often wrote me via skype that you insulted him on skype and us, and you were also the guy creating Keks card with his face on it. So m8, dont act like the angel.

just to let u know that burak is the dumbest guy i have ever seen in my whole life i wish if i have the skype logos cuz i blocked him and deleted everything but i can tell u that we both insulted eachothers but he crossed the line by insulting the other peoples like hero,kath,barba,WOLVES
i swaer if i have skype logos before he deleted the messages u would know that he's stupid idiot
lets start with barba
2 weeks ago or 3 idk burak told me that 2 years ago barba told burak and drogba that she's shemale and i was like wtf
but he deleted the messages quickly and i can swear all the day that he said this shit about barba.
also u said that im insulting snakes and making funny things about kekz (shitty) face
sure i did cuz burak also insulting wolves and he sent me photoshoped logo of wolves it was like the wolf is sucking..idk cuz he cant use photoshop maybe, also he edited my pic on skype and he sent it to kekz and they both provoked me so i had to insult and edit thier pictures too.
anyway im done with u 3 idiots but i want to ask burak something
didnt u say bass will unban u cuz its not reason to get banned? lets see something cool
On 6/16/2017, at 21:21, ReD_TimE wrote:
> we will get unbanned
On 6/16/2017, at 21:21, ReD_TimE wrote:
> by bass
On 6/16/2017, at 21:21, ReD_TimE wrote:
> carball belongs him and firzen
On 6/16/2017, at 21:21, ReD_TimE wrote:
> not kath
On 6/16/2017, at 21:21, ReD_TimE wrote:
> this son of a bitch
On 6/16/2017, at 21:21, ReD_TimE wrote:
> Bass deleted carball because we said it
On 6/16/2017, at 21:32, ReD_TimE wrote:
> bass said they cant ban us for this reason
On 6/16/2017, at 21:32, ReD_TimE wrote:
> so we will get unbanned
??????????????????????????????????
hello i cant see you in carball where are you burak????? oh u are still banned nvm
DRINK IT IN MEEEEEEEEEEEEEN
and btw james, u dont know how many times burak told me ez on purpose so stfu and go to hell pls

@FolTn
Mr.Foltn better stop lying.
I didnt say that about barba to make fun of her.
You said that she is ur girl and i wanted to let u know.
And i just said it once where i did it all the day ?
You started with Kekz picture so i did the same with ur pic but i have sent ur edited picture to kekz by mistake there were 2 Files with the same name.

why dont u just shut the fuck up and go to ur mama cuz u are retard and get def ur self
i made this logo after u insulted wolves in skype Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
and then u sent this to me after i sent u THE #SHIT
[img]http://i.imgur.com/kqborig.png[/img]