Amazement fills my rainy day to a simple sigh of awe for your most recent catch my friend. What I mean is: holy sh#te what a fantastic find! I got some spare time on my hands, so let's meet up for a touchy-feely greet with my hands on that rare piece of equipment you got there. Beers are on me

Beers and talking bike bull**** is a great combo. Touching sounds kind of freaky Don, but let's meet up

Hi,
I got this track bike recently. I know that LeGrand was one of the builders behind Presto and that he biult for the Raleigh team. However I did not know that he also labeld bikes with his own name. Can anyone of the experts here d tell me a little more about the frame? For example i'm puzzled about the year of produktion. thanks.

Hi mr. Sausage, welcome to the forums. That's magnificent bike you got there! They are very rare indeed, cause he build them for a short period. He was also a mechanic/soigneur for our famous Dutch track cyclist in this picture. Jan is on the left:image.jpg

On facebook, some of us on the Dutch thread are members of O.T.B., an Amsterdam based cycling group of which Jan's son Michel le Grand is also a member. He is the proud owner of a road version of your bike (different colour though). I've also seen another road version on a retro ride in Haarlem, a very very nice frame with C-Record all over it and he was the one setting the pace.

Anyways, if we fail to give you proper info, you can find his son on fb

Edit: found a pic of that dude in Haarlem, even though it's not much of a pic...image.jpg It's the blueish bike in the middle, I think we were checking out something cool on my Gazelle

Hi,
I got this track bike recently. I know that LeGrand was on of the builders behind Presto and that he biult for the Raleigh team. However I did not know that he also labeld bikes with his own name. Can anyone of the experts here d tell me a little more about the frame? For example i'm puzzled about the year of produktion. thanks.

Welcome to the forums. Best first post ever, probably great bike and really nice shots. Were did you find this bike?

Pass the Dutchie on the non-drive side.
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Hey zielemann, hey Italuminium,
thanks for the pictures and infos. I knew about michel le grad. I think he road for the panasonic team. I remember seeing a pr6000 with his nametag on it once. I don't know if i want to harass him on facebook though. I wouldn't know what to say I was just wondering because I couldn't find even a single photo of a jan le grand labled bike on the internet, that's why I ask you guys.
It was offered on marktplaats about a year ago and I got lucky. So recently was a bit of an exaggeration. I like dutch frames in gerneral e.g. I got a Gazelle exception and Gazelle c.m. 653 RVS, both with stainless steel fork and rear triangle.

Hey zielemann, hey Italuminium,
thanks for the pictures and infos. I knew about michel le grad. I think he road for the panasonic team. I remember seeing a pr6000 with his nametag on it once. I don't know if i want to harass him on facebook though. I wouldn't know what to say I was just wondering because I couldn't find even a single photo of a jan le grand labled bike on the internet, that's why I ask you guys.
It was offered on marktplaats about a year ago and I got lucky. So recently was a bit of an exaggeration. I like dutch frames in gerneral e.g. I got a Gazelle exception and Gazelle c.m. 653 RVS, both with stainless steel fork and rear triangle.

I know you're new to the forums, so I'll forgive you for not including the obligated pics when mentioning such classic bikes you supposedly own

No seriously, pics please!

Michel will not feel herassed in any way, I feel. He's also a member of the o.t.b., so if you 'like' it, you will be in the same club. And I got the feeling he's proud of his father's legacy. Wouldn't you be?

Hey zielemann, hey Italuminium,
thanks for the pictures and infos. I knew about michel le grad. I think he road for the panasonic team. I remember seeing a pr6000 with his nametag on it once. I don't know if i want to harass him on facebook though. I wouldn't know what to say I was just wondering because I couldn't find even a single photo of a jan le grand labled bike on the internet, that's why I ask you guys.
It was offered on marktplaats about a year ago and I got lucky. So recently was a bit of an exaggeration. I like dutch frames in gerneral e.g. I got a Gazelle exception and Gazelle c.m. 653 RVS, both with stainless steel fork and rear triangle.

You have posted a seriously cool bike thnx and I al definitly interested in seeing those other ones as well

I guess you're right, Zielemann. He can't say more than no anyway. I would be darn proud, that's for sure.
@non-fixie: Seems like a very nice place here to talk about vintage bicycles. I'm very glad I got your permission!

I'll post pictures of the Gazelles in time. Whereas the Exeption is a finished project the C.M. 653 needs to be restored. When that is done I would love to do some kind of before and after post.
However I had one more dutch bicycle that I sold this summer because I needed money for an other project. A Jan Janssen frame made of Columbus Max:

Thanks for that, didn't know that LeGrand marketed his own bikes...
and ja, welcome to the forums.

And Somebody here in C&V land just got a new Gazelle, surprized it hastn't been added
to this thread (hint hint).

While I'm fishing for pictures etc. anyone got a bonteko or Pekka to show off?

marty

Bontekoe: I haven't gotten around to take my own pictures - this is the seller's - but here is mine. I actually spoke about this bike to one of Gerrit Bontekoe's grandsons, who is currently running the shop in The Hague with his brother.

The frame is a Reynolds 531 Viner, identifiable by the x-shaped cutouts in the lugs. The oily bits are Shimano 600 arabesque. The saddle is now a more appropriate Rolls, but the rims are toast, so it doesn't get ridden very much.

I guess you're right, Zielemann. He can't say more than no anyway. I would be darn proud, that's for sure.
@non-fixie: Seems like a very nice place here to talk about vintage bicycles. I'm very glad I got your permission!

I'll post pictures of the Gazelles in time. Whereas the Exeption is a finished project the C.M. 653 needs to be restored. When that is done I would love to do some kind of before and after post.
However I had one more dutch bicycle that I sold this summer because I needed money for an other project. A Jan Janssen frame made of Columbus Max: