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NEC Review

Not Safe

One: I do not believe for a minute that the energy
entrained in a synthetic tornado is truly anchored to
the base station that creates it. It can take off
with lots of potential energy that will take a while
to dissipate, or can provide a mechanism for Nature to
continue to pump it. Nature is pumping it anyway, as
this is the whole point of using it!

Secondly, it is
intrusive. Who really wants a stationary tornado
within view? I also doubt it will be silent!

BAD, BAD IDEA. Not in my backyard! Not within 200
miles of my house!

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Holds Great Promise

I became aware of the scientific details of the AVE, and of the need for advances in computational fluid dynamics modeling of vortexes that would benefit planning based on it, through my work as a research analyst on the Diogenes Institute's comprehensive plan for energy independence and the environment.

Peter Thiel, co-founder of Paypal and angel funding for FaceBook has funded an AVE experiment that is now going on in Canada.

That's all well and good, I suppose, if the AVE turns out to be irrelevant and it may even be to PESN's credit if it turns out to be as dangerous as stated in the wiki entry.

Even if it is as dangerous as is implied by the wiki entry, the potential power levels available from the equatorial ocean deserts alone -- thousands of miles from the nearest structures -- dwarfs world-wide energy consumption by treating Earth as a heat engine, dumping the energy from the warming oceans into space through vertical pipelines formed by the vortexes.

At present, there is very little controversy among scientists that the basic physics used by the AVE are off by enough to render it impractical. The only scientific controversy is over how much energy goes into turbulent losses rather than laminar flow and, although this is one of the questions being examined by the current experiment, even if the pessimistic levels of turbulent loss obtain, the AVE still looks to be a viable power technology with enormous scalability.

Furthermore, there is reason to believe that the power of the AVE's vortex is locked to its source of vorticity which is at the AVE site on the ground -- unlike a tornado in which the vorticity is from a large scale, traveling, weather system. It may be safe and practical to colocate AVE plants with existing thermal power plants. The current study will bring us one step closer to understanding.

LENR promises to multiply the potential heat energy available and AVE promises to take waste heat convert it to electricity.

In the News

Vortex > Michaud Atmospheric Engine > Man-made tornadoes could one day power our cities - Now, after years of struggling to be viewed as a serious company, AVEtec has just received $300,000 in funding from PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel, to improve on the initial concept and build a working engine to prove the viability of using this technology to produce electricity with virtually no carbon foot print. (ElectronicProducts; December 19, 2012)