minnesota beat louisville when louisville was playing its worst basketball. the entire country hates penn state, so that is why they are out. penn state is better than minnesota. LOOK AT THE QUALITY WINS. Penn State finished higher than michigan and minnesota in conference. penn state will get screwed.

We just don't think Memphis deserves a 1 seed and we don't think that a Dyson-less UConn team is going to get one either. We took Michigan State because of their Big Ten regular season title and their ridiculous 13 Top 50 wins.

We think St. Mary's, because of the Mills injury, is a very unique case for the committee. We feel very strongly that the committee will look at how well they played before Mills got hurt, and the fact that he is back healthy, and give the Gaels a shot.

How about because their best OOC win is Mount St. Mary's and best OOC road win is Georgia Tech? When you're OOC SOS is 304 and you play FOUR home games OOC against teams with RPI over 280, your resume is weak.

anyone else thinks it sucks that the committee looks like a bunch of the most boring people? I don't like the BCS system, but I think a system like it would work better with such a large field like this tourney. top 64 in. and no, i don't mean the rpi.

Memphis is clearly inferior to last year's model. Even if Tyreke Evens is better than Derek Rose, they don't have Dorsey they don't have CDR.

I mean they lost to Syracuse and Georgetown at home. Yeah they beat Tennessee and Gonzaga, but they still can't hit a 3 or a freethrow to save their lives. Besides, there are bubble teams with more Top 50 wins.

Penn State a better team than Minnesota???? Minnesota whooped em by 20 in Minny, and it took a miracle in Happy Valley for Penn State to win. As far as quality wins..hmmmm. I am still trying to think of any OUT of conference wins.

Michigan State's losses to the ACC squads were early in the season, and neither were at home.

The game against Maryland was neutral court and they were without Goran Suton. They were also without Suton against North Carolina, and they had just come off a stretch of 3 games in 5 days. I remember Roy Williams saying that the Spartans looked gassed all night, and not really because of UNC's tempo.

You do make an excellent argument for Duke, and I think there's a very good chance they slide up to the fourth #1 spot.

Duke has a case for a #1 too. Memphis' resume is absolutely inferior to Louisville, UNC, UConn, Pitt, MSU, and Duke. It really isn't even close. They shouldn't be anywhere near a discussion on 1 seeds.

Yes Mike, it was a miracle. Battle hit a joke 3 at the end of the half, and Minnesota outplayed them whether you were at the game or not. Point is, where is your ooc wins at? And don't give me the.... oh Louisville wasn't playing good, not are fault. Look, I hope you guys get in, I give you props for winning at Mich.St. and Illinois. I just think it's clear that Minny deserves a bid.

Minnesota also did not lose to a team lower than 76 RPI, I think I read that here...yet Penn State lost to several teams well below 125 rpi. Penn State had their chance to sew up a bid last weekend, but lost to lowly Iowa. The Gophers aren't a great team, but deserve to be ahead of PSU. And, their rpi is 25 points higher than PSU.

how the heck do u have st marys and minnesota over psu, psu's wins over mich state, Illinois twice purdue michigan and a spilt with Minnesota's equals the one win Minny had over Lousiville. If Psu is out that is B.S.

Do you believe they'll be able to leave out Penn State, who's 10-8 in the Big Ten, over a couple teams that went 9-9 in the same conference? It seems to be that when you take into account the resumes of Minnesota and Michigan, and then you see Penn State has a game on them in the conference, you almost have to include them all. Penn State's 6-9 record against RPI top 50 teams seem to reflect that.

One thing that jumps out at me on this bracket is Minnesota and Texas in round 1, the winner taking on Uconn in round 2. I think Minnesota has a very good chance of beating Texas, and I think a Jerome Dyson-less Uconn might also be susceptible to an upset. Potentially interesting. I held Uconn in high regard during the year, but after watching them play Syracuse I'm convinced that they can't win a national championship without Dyson, and they'll be very lucky to get to a final four.

Penn St.'s good wins are all in conference, so it is impossible to know how "good" those wins were. When the big 10 craps the bed the first two rounds and sends no one to the sweet 16, how good will their resume look in retrospect?

The thing that jumps out to me with this bracket is how putting Mich St on the 1 line affects the locations. I'm in Dayton and was expecting to see Louisville and Pitt next weekend. And then there's a ripple effect, because Pitt has to go to Philly now, Nova doesn't get to play in Philly. There's other examples but I think you get the idea.

Skipping over teams in the standings has been done several times. I remember 11-7 Northern Iowa going over 12-6 Missouri State, and 6-10 Florida State going over 7-9 Wake Forest. On top of that, the Big Ten doesn't even play a balanced schedule so 10-8 isn't necessarily even better than 9-9 in conference.

If PSU or MN is left out of the field, they will only have themselves to blame. PSU lost to a terrible Iowa squad just last week and Minnesota blew a 12 point second half lead to Michigan. I think MN gets in because they played some tough OOC teams, and PSU didn't. PSU didn't beat one OOC team currently in the field. MN beat three. And, each team performed relatively the same in conference.

Given that there are 11 teams in the Big Ten, that should mean that each team plays the other 10 teams once, and then they play 8 of the 10 teams a 2nd time. Correct me if I'm wrong on this. So there's 2 teams(let's say it's fairly random) that any given team will only play once. Doesn't that make for a more even SOS in-conference than say, the Big East? With 16 teams, they would only play 3 teams at random twice, which may be the 3 at the top or the 3 at the bottom. It seems like it'd be hard to argue that there would be more than a 1 win difference between two equal teams in the Big Ten.

Looks good, I will gladly take a 4 seed. I just hope they don't ship my Noles out to Boise, I'd rather stay in a warm climate, Miami perhaps? BTW, mark this prediction: the NCAA still hates us for the mascot thing, etc. so don't be surprised if FSU ends up being a surprisingly lower seed, like a 6. Either way, I'm just happy to be there!

"Minnesota also did not lose to a team lower than 76 RPI, I think I read that here...yet Penn State lost to several teams well below 125 rpi. Penn State had their chance to sew up a bid last weekend, but lost to lowly Iowa. The Gophers aren't a great team, but deserve to be ahead of PSU. And, their rpi is 25 points higher than PSU."

Dude, PSU has 2 losses to teams that won't make the tournament (Iowa and URI), neither one with an RPI up over 125. Minnesota has 1 loss to a team that won't make it (NU) and possibly another one (PSU).

Plus, Minnesota against the best 3 teams in conference: 1-5PSU against the best 3 teams in conference: 4-3 (including 2 road wins, something Minnesota had a hard time doing). They are closer than you think.

Matt Lion, very good points, got me on the 125 thing...I thought Iowa at least was poor going 4-15 in conference, but they must be getting some rpi respect. Anyway, I think MN and PSU should both be in...St. Mary's out...Creighton out..and just the three SEC teams. PSU can solve all this by simply scheduling OOC like they do in football. Play the best, and even if you lose, it's better than beating cupcakes. Their OOC was embarrassing this year.

"PSU can solve all this by simply scheduling OOC like they do in football. Play the best, and even if you lose, it's better than beating cupcakes. Their OOC was embarrassing this year."

Bingo, that's why my alma mater won't get their name called this year. The margin for error was too slim after the OOC. If we had finished 11-7 in conference instead of 10-8, things would look a lot different.

The last time we actually made the tournament (2001) we beat Kentucky and Temple OOC and played a good Pitt team... maybe next year, we'll try something like that.

Hey, in football, we start a home and home with Alabama in 2 years... so that's something.

Pitt could still end up in Dayton because it is a little closer than Philly, and Pitt has the preference in this bracket. I am of the opinion though that if two places are about the same distance away, they could go either way, and Mich St's closest site is by far Dayton

i don't know what's worse...penn state's ooc football schedule or ooc bball schedule. football played coastal carolina last year. hahahaha. and the bball ooc schedule was laughable when it was released this past august. i love hearing dechellis's excuse: "well, we thought those teams were going to be better with returning players." new jersey tech, new hampshire? come on ed, you are terrible. go back to east tenn. state. PLEASE. I love penn state but i could care less about the football team. i like the bball team much more.

even though psu ooc is bad, there wins still equal the one big win minny had. also they are better that creighton and st.marys. I also think they should leap frog Maryland who was under.500 in conference.

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