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04-03-2014 03:28 PM

Freestep

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobobear44

There can be way more than just giving back the dogs to make a breeder simply a BYB.

No duh.

04-03-2014 03:04 PM

Lobobear44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freestep

Don't get too excited... most of that post was quoted from someone else. Lobo only wrote the part quoted above.

To which I would respond, yes; if a breeder would not take puppies back under any circumstance, they are simply a BYB and should not be breeding dogs.

There can be way more than just giving back the dogs to make a breeder simply a BYB.

03-26-2014 10:59 PM

RubyTuesday

IF you have a lawyer on retainer all the time s/he would probably handle it with little to no additional expense. For most of us, lawyer's fees & expenses will quickly chew through most or all that might be won on a dog which cost $1500-$2000.

Getting a bad check covered can be as problematic as enforcing a contract, especially across state lines. Most breeders specify the check must clear before the pup can be picked up.

I agree that all of this should be kept in mind prior to buying a pup. That's essentially what I'm advising when I suggest people do business with breeders they consider trustworthy & ethical.

03-25-2014 07:46 PM

ApselBear

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Originally Posted by huntergreen

not quite ruby, expensive? maybe, but that is why we have lawyers. all that should be kept in mind if you buy your pup a considerable distance away. of course you bounce a check to some of these breeders you will see how easy it is for them to come after you. the same is true for enforcing a contract.

Good luck finding a lawyer willing to fight for it. You'll probably pay up front and do well to brake even in the fees.

not quite ruby, expensive? maybe, but that is why we have lawyers. all that should be kept in mind if you buy your pup a considerable distance away. of course you bounce a check to some of these breeders you will see how easy it is for them to come after you. the same is true for enforcing a contract.

03-25-2014 06:38 PM

RubyTuesday

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that is why adults read the contract and make sure they understand the terms. if you sign the contract there shouldn't be any red flags you were/are not aware of.

People put too much reliance in the written word. In the case of buying a dog the contract is usually only as good as the people involved. Enforcing it is time consuming, expensive & a HUGE pain on many fronts. The sheer distances that are often involved discourage buyers & breeders battling it out in court. Many times different states are involved, sometimes different countries.

I would buy a dog from someone I trusted without a contract. I would never do a contract with someone I didn't trust regardless of how 'good' the terms appeared to be. Not that contracts are worthless. They can give both parties a clear idea of each parties rights & responsibilities. They can indicate what recourse is available if problems arise. They *might* give some indication of how much confidence the breeder has in the pups produced.

It's important that people approach contracts with their eyes wide open & not blindly trusting the nebulous protection of a legally binding document. Having a contract is one thing. Enforcing that contract is entirely something else.

03-25-2014 05:11 PM

huntergreen

that is why adults read the contract and make sure they understand the terms. if you sign the contract there shouldn't be any red flags you were/are not aware of.

03-15-2014 08:10 AM

brembo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobobear44

A red flag is also if the breeder would not take pups back under any circumstance.

HUGE red flag. Run away.

03-14-2014 06:34 PM

Freestep

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lobobear44

A red flag is also if the breeder would not take pups back under any circumstance.

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Originally Posted by misslesleedavis1

Upon reading this it seems as though you are not a total child. Can we expect that all future posts to be well written.

Don't get too excited... most of that post was quoted from someone else. Lobo only wrote the part quoted above.

To which I would respond, yes; if a breeder would not take puppies back under any circumstance, they are simply a BYB and should not be breeding dogs.