Josh Smith, Josh Smith, Josh Smith: The Warriors chatter that won’t die, but it probably should

* Note: Headed back up to Napa for the Raiders-49ers all day two-practice tussle, so once again, I’m not sure what I can post and if I can post while up there. Probably zippo.

So I’m advance-posting this one and hopefully Chris Mullin and Rick Sund prove me wrong even as I chat up Al D. and the Two JYs on the sidelines (more likely it’ll be Nobody and Nobodies)…

Let’s face it, Josh Smith is still out there as an unsigned restricted free agent, and as long as he is, there will be chatter that the Warriors must/can/will/have already acquire(d) him for some package that must inevitably include Brandan Wright and Al Harrington.

It’s a law of the great interwebs, this I know.

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Also, Smith’s rights are controlled by the Hawks, and, as is always the case with the Atlantans, things tend to take forever and ever and ever… which means Josh will probably remain out there for way longer than he needs to be.

I’ve been e-mailed about the JSmith-Warriors talk. I’ve had friends ask me, several times. I’ve done a little speculating myself (way, way at the start of free agency, when I proposed him as a F/A target once the Warriors lost Baron Davis)…

And, since that initial wondering back in early July, my consistent answer has been: JOSH SMITH IS NOT COMING TO THE WARRIORS.

I really believe that now, despite his potential availability and the theoretical chance that he is the right kind of big man for the Warriors (since the Warriors are always looking for big men, aren’t they?).

But at this relatively serene point after the Warriors’ all-time tumultous July, I think it’s time I put down why I believe Smith isn’t going to be coming to the Warriors (and am counting on Mullin to make me look horrendous almost immediately).

1. The Warriors are (at least) one excellent player short of sure-fire playoff contention… but I’m not at all sure that Smith is That Player.

In fact, I think the Warriors do not believe he is that player. Smith is only 22 and he does many good things (big-time shot-blocker, decent rebounder, OK passer, can run the floor and finish) but he’s a career 44.5% shooter and that is not exactly your definition of a low-post scorer.

The Warriors believe Wright, who is two years younger, will end up doing many of the same things Smith does now, but more efficiently and definitely more inexpensively (for now).

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And as I’ve typed often, Mullin isn’t giving Harrington away, even if Don Nelson would like him to. If Mullin is going to give up Wright and Harrington, he’s going to want someone he’s sure can get him into the playoffs and maybe win him a round.

Josh Smith isn’t that guy.

Which leads to…

3. Smith’s contract would be huge–possibly larger than the 6-year, $66M deal the Warriors just gave Monta Ellis, and I believe it’s very important to Monta that he’s the highest-paid Warriors player.

VERY IMPORTANT to Monta. I cannot emphasize that one any more than I already have.

The Warriors carefully kept Corey Maggette’s F/A deal and Andris Biedrins’ RFA deal under Ellis’ deal. That was market rate (or in Maggette’s case, slightly above), but it also gave Mullin room to come on top of them both with Ellis’ deal.

4. Smith’s deal, probably at more than $11M a year, would screw up the Warriors’ finances into the future–and again, they have carefully planned to give themselves room in the future.

We go back to that issue–is Smith That Player? Is he Brand, KG or a Young Baron? No, he’s not that good.

The Warriors are trying to set themselves up to have lots of young talent and have room next season to add one more big salary, if that’s the guy who coalesces everything, the way KG did for Boston and Steve Nash did for Phoenix a few years ago.

I’ll say it again: Josh Smith isn’t that guy, not when they’ve already spent $50M on Maggette, $54M on Biedrins, $17M on Ronny Turiaf and $66M on Ellis.

5. Smith doesn’t quite fit the Warriors’ system, either.

He could fit it, I guess. That’s not out of the question. But ideally, a Nellie big man either can shoot threes or can score at a high % on the low post or can stuff the other team’s monster big man.

I’m not sure Smith does any of those things. He’s not an on-ball smother guy–he likes to guard weaker offensive players and then come swooping in to swat the shots from the better players. He’s not a great jumpshooter, but he likes to shoot. Too much.

He put up 99 three-pointers last year and made 25. He also is a high-turnover guy–3 per game last year. That’s no good. (Harrington and Biedrins were both at 1.1 TOs/game last year. Ellis was 2.1) In a fast system, that, to me, equals a potential tall 39% shooter with 4.5 TOs a game.

Al Horford did most of the tough stuff last year in Atlanta–now Horford would be a very excellent Warriors’ addition. I’d give up Wright, Harrington and practically anybody else on the roster (except Ellis and Randolph) for Horford.

Al Horford could be That Player. (Horford: 1.7 TOs/per.) But he’s not a free agent and he’s assuredly not available.

6. I don’t think Atlanta would accept the Wright/Harrington package, even if it’s sweetened.

The Hawks are dumb, but they’ve already lost RFA Josh Childress to a Greek team. They built a high level (for them) of excitement last season around Smith, Horford, Joe Johnson, Childress and a little bit of Mike Bibby.

It’d be awful if they lost both Childress and Smith, playing a RFA system in which almost nobody loses high-quality RFAs. You’re not supposed to lose RFAs that are stars. They lost one. They’re not going to lose Smith and it’ll take more than Brandan Wright–I think–to pry Smith loose.

7. I think the Warriors are happy with what they’ve accomplished after losing Baron. Chris Mullin will never say he’s done… but he’s basically done for the summer.

-They’re not offering Wright to anybody: He’s their power forward of the future next to Randolph and Biedrins on the frontline.

-They’re not giving Harrington away. He’s the only proven spot-up three-point shooter on the roster, unless you count Marcus Williams and I don’t.

-They want to see what their current roster settles out to be. Right now:

Mix and match here: Smith is good, but Nelson won’t play him with Biedrins–way too similar. So you have to play Smith with Harrington or with Turiaf.

I guess there are some theories out there that the Warriors could be trading Biedrins to the Hawks (can’t be traded for 60 days after signing, however). THAT IS WRONG. Biedrins would never agree to a deal that would end up sending him to Atlanta in two months and his agent would torch the Warriors if they did it without his knowledge.

Those deals never happen like that, I promise you.

It’s not happening. The Warriors are basically done. They’re not in the Josh Smith hunt. Now I can’t wait for Mullin to make a fool out of me before the Raiders-Niners night practice.

Tim Kawakami

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Outstanding article (as always) Tim!
I agree with your points whole heartedly!
I’ve suggested (on many blogs) that Okafor would be a better fit within the Warriors dynamics than Josh Smith. Perhaps in a future article you could comment on how EO would integrate more seemlessly than JS.

Paul

I don’t see Perovic sticking around, I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see Hendrix out before Watson on that list; Hendrix didn’t prove anything to me in summer ball, and how many muscle guys are really needed in Nelson’s system? Turiaf’s signing means Hendrix can ship out for Bakersfield.
I’d narrow a position battle down to Watson/Morrow. Watson is more valuable, has the experience and is far less one-dimensional than Morrow. On the other hand, maybe Morrow is the next Dell Curry, and I think we’ve got a feeling for the cap on Watson’s potential.

GSWFan24

I agree Tim,

Josh Smith is very overrated offensively, he doesn’t do much creating for all the money he’s asking for. He reminds me of AK-47 in Utah (but AK is better). Josh is more athletic but it doesnt translate to the court all the time.

wfan1

JS is not that good. People jsu need to move on already.

Dan

How am I not supposed to pine for Morrow to be on this team? And how am I not supposed to notice that you have left him conspicuously off this list? It is these kind of blogs that have lead to me believe that he is the behind the arc assasin that will dagger the hearts out of all comers. So where is he? Why is he not on the imaginary in the beginning of August roster?

Scott

I don’t think I have ever agreed with you more on a post Tim. No Josh Smith, anyone that lures him away from Atlanta is paying way too much to do it.

To Paul – you are dead wrong about Hendrix. He was hurt and didn’t even play in the summer league. He will be on this roster and they do need more muscle. He is exactly the type of player they need against certain teams (Utah).

Tim when you first interviewed Nellie after the draft he said Maggette would definitely play the 3 and SJax the 2. But that is not the way you list it.

stantonsasaki

I disagree TK. Josh Smith brings many of the qualities that the W’s desparately need. Here’s MY list…

1. Shot blocking! He’s one of the best in the game. AB can’t get close to the effectiveness as JS. JS will tighten up the current soft interior D that teams expose so regularly. Blocked shots start the fastbreak which will create 4-5 point turnaround possibilities. Those turnarounds are game changers.

2. JS is a power forward who can lead and finish the break. He is ultra althletic for a power forward and will create mismatches, especially on a fastbreak opportunity. Harrington and Wright could only dream of doing such things.

3. You’re talking about JS’s career numbers, but consider the source of those numbers, the ATLANTA HAWKS! The Hawks, excluding last year’s playoff run against the C’s, have been one of the worst managed and coached teams in the league for the last decade and beyond. JS has been put in positions to fend for himself. Put on a team where opposing defenses must step out on the W’s vast shooters, the middle will soften tenfold than what he is used to. It will create mismatches and well as easy points off rebounds. I bet his offensive numbers increase by 15-25% his first year.

I do agree that Josh Smith will never wear the Warriors uniform, but unlike you TK, I believe it WOULD HAVE been a great marriage. No harm in daydreaming…

SJ expat

Blocked shots are overrated, good analysis of his man-to-man defense.

Hates TK

Now that was a solid entry – even though I disagree in certain respects (and think Josh Smith is a far better player than Brandan Wright), that was informative, well-reasoned and interesting….and you weren’t even snide. Now was that so hard?

moolah

morrow is the next larry bird.

Raven

You’re wrong TK! I think Josh Smith could’ve been that Athletic PF that the Warriors desperately needed. Harrington is just not athletic enough and Wright is not guaranteed to gain another 30-40lbs to be a legit PF. Josh Smith would’ve been perfect on fast breaks and shot blocking. If Mully didn’t look so desperate trying to throw that big money around to anybody when Baron bolted. If he signed Josh Smith versus Corey Mags…everybody would’ve been more optimistic about this year.
Just like the prior team (Dun-dumb, Stiff Murph, Foyle and J-rich) Mullin and the rest of these so called mully-fans are over-rating average players at best.
You need SUPERSTARS to go deep in the playoffs and I don’t know if the W’s even have 1 star.

Harp’sDubs

Both of my Japanese brethren (Kawakami and Sasaki) bring up solid points about Josh Smith, but the fact remains that he’s only 22 and still developing his game. Here are my reasons as to why we should go after him (Wright, Harrington in a three way and pay him roughly the same as Monta, but with a smaller first and second year number to appease ME):
1) His field goal percentage will improve as he becomes more discerning with shot selection. His FG percentage would also be boosted under Nellie, because he’d be the finisher on a ton of fast breaks.
2) His turnovers will continue to go down as he gains more experience and more of a feel for the pro game – remember, this kid never had a college coach.
3) He’s a better match next to Biedrins than Wright will be due to body types. Wright probably won’t weigh 230 (JS’s current listed weight) until he’s 45 and drinking beers for a living. Smith will get up to the 240-245 weight range over the next 4-5 years as his body continues to mature and he puts on more muscle to compensate for the loss of some spring in his legs – his game will change as well to become more the proto-typical PF.
4) I cannot see a frontline of Biedrins, Wright and Randolph in the future -literally, I can’t see them (when they’re standing sideways, that is). We have to have a 4 with bulk (Hendrix body type). Can’t anybody remember 1995 (when TK’s man-crush Kevin Garnett was available) when we picked Joe Smith number 1 overall (nicknamed the “Beast of the East” while at Maryland) hoping that his body would develop? He and Wright have the same sinewy body and Smith is a good pro, but on his 6th or 7th team now and simply a backup/role player.
5) If the Warriors are intent on making the playoffs this year, neither Harrington nor Wright can be our starting four. We must make a trade now and not wait until next summer because next year’s star power forward (Boozer) is already packing his bags for Miami.

Brian

Excellent article by Chad Ford (ESPN.com)

Golden State Warriors
I feel sorry for Warriors GM Chris Mullin. A little more than a year ago, he was the guy who helped the Warriors end an ugly 12-year playoff drought. His hard work paid off in the 2007 playoffs when his Warriors pulled off one of the biggest first-round upsets in NBA history.

Last season, the Warriors were good, just not good enough to make the playoffs in the ultra competitive West. Then disaster struck this offseason as Baron Davis bolted for the Clippers and the Warriors panicked. After trying and failing to lure Elton Brand and Gilbert Arenas to Golden State, the Warriors spent way too much on Corey Maggette, a guy who duplicates many of their strengths and addresses none of their weaknesses.

Now the Warriors look poised to fall out of the playoffs for the next few seasons as they restart the rebuilding process. That has to be a huge blow to the gut of Warriors fans that rabidly supported the Warriors in 2007.

But there is a silver lining in Golden State.

First, the Warriors were right in not overpaying to keep Davis. I’ll be surprised if he’s still playing 50 games a season in the last few years of that deal. Second, the Warriors locked up their two young free agents — Monta Ellis and Andris Biedrins — to rich, but not ridiculous deals. If those two continue to develop along with young players like Brandan Wright, Marco Belinelli and rookie Anthony Randolph, the Warriors will be good in about three years.

Still, I’m not sure Warriors fans like the idea of waiting after missing the playoffs in 16 of 17 years.

HawksFan

PLEASE take Josh Smith! He is great… you definitely want him at $11M per year. Pay no attention to the turnovers, decision-making or field-goal percentage….

Alberto

Tim, I believe that you have overlooked Anthony Morrow. It is true that wee need to see play against NBA players but what he has shown up to this point is very good to excellent to dismiss him easily.

While I agree that Josh Smith might not be the player that will carry the Warriors, it is pretty hard for me to compare the BW and say that BW will be better than JS. can JS improve from where he is? I believe that JS will improve as BW. Both are young ans talented young players. I have hard time to believe that BW will be what JS is at 22.

On the other hand, you have convinced me that indeed it is not worth to bring JS because next year and the worst in two year we can get someone a lot better with AH’s money plus Adonal’s money. Meanwhile we really hope that Nelson develop the young players and see if BW can prove me wrong.

I was pretty high on BW but his easy going does not fit the model that encourage hope on me. BW should be playing training very hard during this summer to improve himself like Monta others players has done it. It is up to him to show that he will improve year after year. In the summer League he did not show the progress that all of us was expecting from him.

E

couple points:
1) I bet you get so much more action on your W’s blogs than any other Bay Area team right now…why is that? Because they are exciting to watch, exciting because they have had probably the most action out of any NBA team this summer. That means Mully isn’t afraid to make things happen. Whether were done or still making a bigger deal later in the Fall, either way it’s a gamble.
2) I’m curious as to why the Pistons would pay $4mill for Kwame Brown and not Turiaf? I like Turiaf better, what was it that made them OK with that, it’s basically a 1 yr deal at the most 2, so maybe that’s it, but wouldn’t Turiaf jumped at the opportunity to back up Sheed?
3) Lastly, I believe (humble opinion) Mully sees A Randolph as a better future player than JSmith. So why trade Wright for a duplicate player?

Brian

Kwame Brown for $4 million a year with a second year option? Not bad? He would have made an excellent backup to Biedrins & Harrington! Half the cost of Turiaf!

sillylittlekidsyouare

I was talking to my cousin yesterday about Randolph. We both like AK47′s game within Nellie’s system (mainly on defense) and a bit of craftiness with his length and athleticism on offense. Randolph’s talent surpasses AK47′s. He just has to make sure his skill is developed properly and then there’s no need for Josh Smith. Josh Smith’s not a low post player. He’s got the height and explosiveness, but he’s a perimeter player without the perimeter skills (at least not yet). They have Randolph who’s already got the offensive floor game to compete. Randolph just needs to learn how to play defense like AK47 or Josh Smith – mainly on the the weak side/help side. Most of Josh Smith’s blocks, I’m assuming, come from the weak side help just like AK47. Wright’s got that potential also, but with a better future in the post.

I think Josh Smith would make them MUCH better today, but how much better in the long run is questionable depending on the maturation of Wright and Randolph.

BTW, I like Watson, but is there a need for him now that there’s M-Will? Morrow’s pinpoint shooting may prove more beneficial than Watson’s all-around game. If the W’s need a fill-in at point, they could sign Nelson to a bunch of 10-day contracts (say to fill in for some injuries). Can they keep both?

Scott

Somebody needs to let Tim know the Packers hired Ari Fleisher to be a consultant for a month hahahaha. Tim why don’t you go on a GB blog and let them have it.

Brian – Turiaf makes $4m a year with Warriors. Kwame Brown you say signed for $4m with Pistons. How is that 1/2 the price???

Bob

So by TK logic, Josh Smith won’t be a good fit, but Wright is? Josh Smith is what we hope Wright will become and I doubt he ever gets there.

2 – How in the world could you think a 22 yr old SMITH isn’t worth BW?? Thats ridiculous. JSmith fits perfectly within our 22 and under core who are producing RIGHT NOW. Monta is a 20ppg player, Biedrins a double-double machine, SMith would be the glue guy giving us pts, blks, rebs, defense, we would be off the hook. We need someone who can produce RIGHT NOW, and thats not BW.

3 – WHY IN THE WORLD is it so important that Monta be the highest paid player? I don’t even know how to respond to this nonsense. WTF

4 – JSmith deal would NOT screw our finances in the future. AL and Jack and Foyle’s caphit come of the books in 2010 we have $50M committed. Thats no mans land, which is not enough to have capspace, but IS enough to squeeze in JSmith without going in the luxury tax.

5 – JSmith doesn’t fit in our system??? Good grief. He’s MP+Barnes+Steriods. He may not be a good 3PT shooter statiscally but he is improving. Let me remind you that AL wasn’t a good 3PT shooter at all until recently.

6 – Is the only point I agree with. AL + BW is not enough for Smith.

7 – If this is the finished product, if Mully is happy with what he has right now, he needs to be canned.

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I’m hoping if there is a trade for JS it should be Harrington/Bellinelli I prefer that Morrow make the team instead of Bellinelli because Marco is so inconsistant, hardly ever sets his feet to shoot. I would like to keep wright even though he did not look very good in Summer league, I saw enough of him play last year and I believe he has more upside than Marco.

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Mullin done? I say get to work MulliNellie – Plan on fishing/trolling for unhappy all stars, franchises in turmoil/rebuilding, and rookie GMs. Mully needs to add another piece or two for the W’s to make the playoffs.

W’s fans/ESPN focus on the W’s overpaying Maggette – at least he’s a skilled veteran who’ll start or be the first off the bench and play 30-40 minutes/game.

I wish Mully would stop paying ROLE players so much money – and save it for the difference makers or just free up space for a significant player/trade down the road.

No matter how much I like them as players – Turiaf and Azibuke will be paid $4.5 million and $3 million=$7.5 million this season – for 4 and 3 years? – for ROLE or ROTATION BENCH players only playing 5-20 minutes per game.

What I’m saying is I’d rather use the $7.5 million (less a rookie/vet minimum contract and sign/trade for a better player).

HENDRIX
How about drafting Hendrix (a Mully steal in the 2nd round) and Nellie actually PLAYING him (although considered a bit undersized) and paying him peanuts – instead of signing Turiaf. Milsap, Landry, and Lee don’t make $3-4.5 million now.

Turiaf was a late 1st rounder and the Lakers didn’t have to pay him $4.5 million when he was producing as a reserve. The Lakers wisely gave the money to Sasha – who actually PLAYS in the key playoff series…

Azibuke, as you recall, was a great Mully pickup from the D-League. He was great for us in a reserve role. Azi made crap as a (5-15 min/game) reserve – and he was a great VALUE for little money!

It now looks like MulliNellie have found another steal in Morrow… an undrafted rookie SG who has lots of potential. Why not let Azibuke play for the Clips, we’ll utilize Morrow in the 3rd string SG/SF and play Belinelli more – plus pocket the difference towards someone more special.

The $7.5 million (minus a league minimum contract) could be HUGE to entice a better player or trade later in the year… This is a LOT of money…

Brandan Wright is the next Kevin Garnett. Period. Monta Ellis is the next iverson. period. Morrow=next Larry Bird. Period Period.

TruWarrior

Josh Smith doesn’t quite fit the Warriors’ system?

If that’s not the most ignorant thing I’ve ever heard.

Josh Smith is PERFECT For that system. He was made for the run and gun offense. He would average at least 20/10 in that system with the way he could run the floor.

And he can’t shoot 3s? And Brandan Wright can? Wright can’t even shoot FTS. And As a 4/5 in that system, why would Josh Smith need to shoot 3s?

He’s the best weakside shot blocker in the NBA and one of the most versatile players in the NBA with the way he can fill up a stat sheet with points, rebounds, assists, steals, and blocks.

You are in denial if you don’t think that would be the biggest pickup you guys could make

warriorfan

I agree with most if not all of the points made in this post. I think the bigeest problem is that whatever price the w’s would pay for JS would be far to high. This offseason has seen the team lose and gain so many players that I think we should just wait and see how our current roster shakes out. With all the new aquisitions I can’t see either Perovic or Hendrix getting a lot of playing time and I figure they’ll probably spend a bunch of time in the d-league. I can’t say enough that Morrow needs to be on the roster, you can’t pass up that kind of shooting, especially when your a teram like the warriors. I also really want to see watson stay because he gave such solid minutes in the short stretches that he played in. I really like what the team has done and I’m excited to see how they do this season.
- If Harrington will be traded I think its going to be during the season, likley closer to the trade deadline after the team has played enough games to see where they stand and exactly what they need in return for him.

RS

What has happened since the end of the season where everyone seemed to agree that Brandan Wright could develop into a very solid player? When Wright got playing time when Biedrins was out, I had no doubt that guy could be a double-double guy in this league. So he didnt exactly destroy the opposition in summer league. He needs a point guard to get him the ball and set him up to be successful. Summer league isn’t the best place to critique Brandan because he didn’t have the ball in his hands enough. At least let this guy play a little bit before you all decide he’s garbage.

OakFoSho

Another rediculous, and uncalled for shot at the East Bay from Timmy……..

Tim states, “Smith’s contract would be huge–possibly larger than the 6-year, $66M deal the Warriors just gave Monta Ellis, and I believe it’s very important to Monta that he’s the highest-paid Warriors player. VERY IMPORTANT to Monta. I cannot emphasize that one any more than I already have.”

Really Tim? What gives you that impression? Your basically calling Monta, the future of the franchise and beloved East Bay Warrior (via Mississippi), a greedy, selfish, me player. Where do you come off? Monta has had nothing but good things to say about The East Bay and Oakland since he arrived, has been a good teammate, and has done nothing but improve every year.

Why do you always have to start (or try to start, that is) contract drama when it comes to the W’s. The past few years you have tried to create controversy between Nelly and Cohen (TWICE!), and I’m sure you will try again this off season while at the same time trying to simultaneously create smoke around Mully’s contract status.

Its all crap and you know it, and questioning Monta in this way is totally wrong. His contract is totally reasonable, he is a good person and a quality Warrior, and you need to stop pulling controversy out of your….. well you get the picture. On second thought, a person of questionable ethics and morals such as yourself probably doesn’t get it.

OakFoSho

moolah

I really think that ellis could be the next michael jordan.

dubs00

Mullin and Nelson didn’t match Buikes deal to have him be a 3rd stringer and get hardly any playing time. He will be a main part of the rotation.

http://Yahoo! PeteyB

I hear you dubs00 #33…

http://Yahoo! PeteyB

dubs00,
If Buikes continues to improve and Nellie plays him, then he’s an outright BARGAIN at $3 million and I’ll shut my big mouth. I do like Azibuke’s game. I like Azibuke at $3 million MUCH better than I like JRich at $12.2 million!!!

The reality is that Azibuke and Turiaf will likely only play 10-20 minutes per game as reserve/role players. If they play much more than that, SJax is probably on suspension from strip clubbin’, Andris is out, or the W’s are losing badly… OR Azibuke can get better and better!

Here’s a shocker – a Nellie-coached team is loaded at the guard and small forward positions!!! With Ellis (Monta’ll play some SG with Marcus at PG) / SJax / Azibuke / Belinelli / Morrow / Maggette / Randolph – them’s a large bucket of wings and a lot of minutes to spread around. Azibuke averaged 16 and 21 minutes per game over his first 2 seasons. How many more minutes will Azibuke receive???

If Morrow turns out to be even serviceable for say $2.5 million or so less than Azibuke, I’ll take Morrow plus the $2.5 million difference to use towards a star/trade…

If Hendrix turns out to be even serviceable for say $4 million less than Turiaf, I’ll take Hendrix plus $4 million difference to use towards a star/trade…

Use the $6.5 million savings difference towards a more marquee player – when one becomes available. Turiaf and Azibuke make us marginally better.

The Celtics won a championship without top dollar role players and reserves.

Numbers Guy

There is no room for a big dollar free agent next summer for the Warriors. Do the math again.

Shawn

Moolah thank you for your optimism.
OakFoSo thank you for your pessimism.
The truth is, it is time for this to be Monta Ellis’ team. I am happy with Mullie’s decision to make ME the top paid player.
Monta to me, is the best straight out of HS player since Lebron James. He is our superstar.