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Where is the contradiction?? The arguement of "it's possible" is completely non supportive of any arguement. But even if I give in to "it's possible", which I did for your sake, doesn't mean it will happen. Which I restated. Sorry, no contradiction there. Let's meet up after the end of next season and compare Barkley and Smith I think I will come out ahead on this one. I am not to sure about Wilson either but agree that he may surprise just like Russell Wilson this year. So two questions, pick it now: 1) if Matthews and Keenan are on the board who do you pick 2) if Matthews and Keenan are on the board who does Ireland pick. { My choices: Me - Keenan, Ireland - Keenan}

1st answer is Keenan...no brainer. 2nd answer I need more information. Is Long still on the team or not?

I think RT with our 1st last year shows that old mentality going. There is definitely new direction with this team and I feel Philbin will have alot of influence.

But then he took an OT in the 2nd and a DE in the 3rd...he didn't stray far for long.

Only the 2009 draft did he not take an O-lineman or D-line in one of the first 3 rounds.

2008
1st round OT
2nd round DE
3rd round DE

2009 none

2010
1st round DE
3rd round Guard

2011
1st round Center

2012
2nd round OT
3rd round DE

He still hasn't shown me that his priorities in the draft have changed. He values O-line and D-line more than any other position. You can argue he took QB in the 1st round in the last draft out of necessity as much as available talent. You could have said in 2009 that he was going in a different direction, the only year he didn't take an O-lineman or D-lineman in the first three rounds, and had a better argument but not after 5 drafts with the evidence presented.

But then he took an OT in the 2nd and a DE in the 3rd...he didn't stray far for long.

Only the 2009 draft did he not take an O-lineman or D-line in one of the first 3 rounds.

2008
1st round OT
2nd round DE
3rd round DE

2009 none

2010
1st round DE
3rd round Guard

2011
1st round Center

2012
2nd round OT
3rd round DE

He still hasn't shown me that his priorities in the draft have changed. He values O-line and D-line more than any other position. You can argue he took QB in the 1st round in the last draft out of necessity as much as available talent. You could have said in 2009 that he was going in a different direction, the only year he didn't take an O-lineman or D-lineman in the first three rounds, and had a better argument but not after 5 drafts with the evidence presented.

The majority of the older drafts are Parcell driven. We all know this. Last year Ireland is on his own and goes QB. Yes he then went OT in the second, but come on man. Do you remember Columbo. That was our biggest need!

The majority of the older drafts are Parcell driven. We all know this. Last year Ireland is on his own and goes QB. Yes he then went OT in the second, but come on man. Do you remember Columbo. That was our biggest need!

Ireland has been running the draft since 2010. Parcells pretty much quit after the 2009 draft in which he took Pat White...and he should have been fired along with Ireland for that pick. This is Ireland 3rd draft running the show...not just the last one.