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It's not like smogon is labeling only offensive ones uber on purpose. It's easier to be offensively powerful with few who could stop you then defensively good without it being crushed by a powerful pokemon.

Let's look at some of the best defensive pokemon. Ferrothorn, Skarmroy, and Blissey. I don't think I need to point out how easy they are to play around. To play around Excadrill or other super powerful offensive pokemon, you need one of the very few pokemon that can stop it, or something that can revenge kill it, which is rare in Excadril/Blaziken's case.

The same can be considered true for terrakion though...it has ways to push through even its most dedicated counters with only a slight variation in it's move set...sure it can be revenge killed,, but all pokemon can be revenge killed...i do agree that blaziken deserves its place in ubers though...

Move tutors in bw2 are going to make terrakion more interesting. If it can learn the punches, help us. Maybe this is where terrakion leaves ou to become uber

Iron head anyone?

Elemental punches? What... Not to be rude but it doesn't have fists. Even Gastly, which fits that description perfectly, gets fists when he evolves.

I get your point though. Maybe Aqua tail, as that's another mt. What would happen if it got that? Dual type steels would get scared. Especially in the rain, where they can be found more often. Skarmory, which walls jolly natured forms wouldn't be able to wall him in the rain, though stone edge is more powerful in that circumstance.

We will know by Saturday, if we can put that info in the site by then. Until then, go with what you do know.

Thanks, philzone. Pretty sure no one would have said anything.

Apparently, I can't claim Larvesta. But who cares?
It's still the cutest bug eva!

I am The Grovyle, that friend in a high place.

The craziest battle I ever had- Toxic spikes supported baton passing team, with a Splashing Wailord. And won. You have to try it!

Elemental punches? What... Not to be rude but it doesn't have fists. Even Gastly, which fits that description perfectly, gets fists when he evolves.

I get your point though. Maybe Aqua tail, as that's another mt. What would happen if it got that? Dual type steels would get scared. Especially in the rain, where they can be found more often. Skarmory, which walls jolly natured forms wouldn't be able to wall him in the rain, though stone edge is more powerful in that circumstance.

We will know by Saturday, if we can put that info in the site by then. Until then, go with what you do know.

Thanks, philzone. Pretty sure no one would have said anything.

I mentioned move tutors in the Cobalion POTW.

Originally Posted by Cresselia92

I think that Dragalge could suffer from "Goldeen Syndrome" and have problems outside of the water.

1. We weren't sure of mt's then. It was still a shot in the dark. They were only rumors until today.
2. Thx, sorry I wasn't really here to see that, if you did.
3. The Pokemon mt's will still need to be confirmed, which poke learns what(though some are more than obvious). The earliest that will be discovered will be when the game comes out on saturday, unless Nintendo wishes otherwise. So please, as it is a controversial subject as of now, no one discuss this until complete confirmation of the moves that the POTW will learn through these mt's. It will waist posts on what we really are supposed to talk about- sets of competive play, and additional present possibilities alongside that. I may not be in charge of potw, but I know when we are going off topic. So let's get back to
Terrakion, shall we?

Counters
Scizor can sting with bp, but it can't get in free. Jellicent, probably one of the best counters, because it can play mind games with this guy- it can switch in to a choiced fighting move, burn it, spray water at it. Other ghosts, such as Gengar, can come in to even a life orbed variant on the fighting move. It can set a sub, to stall, will'o wisp, Giga drain, and though I doubt anyone uses rain based Gengar with hp water anymore, it's still good against our big bully.
As it was said by another person on here, Azumarill is a good option, as it gets a good attack and priority, but like Scizor, it works only as a revenge kill because it can't switch in. Unlike Scizor though, Azumarill is rarely found in OU, if at all.
Any steel can come into a Rock move, unless its a Swords dance (or work up, as I have mentioned that option before. It's actually worth a try!)
Any ghost could really come in to a fighting or x-scizzor.
Burn ruins most variants except for work up, and hazers ruin those and swords dancers. Why you should carry Weezing, another counter of sorts. It can take a lot of it's Stab moves, and burn and clear smog back. Though, like Azumarill, it's not common in OU.

Apparently, I can't claim Larvesta. But who cares?
It's still the cutest bug eva!

I am The Grovyle, that friend in a high place.

The craziest battle I ever had- Toxic spikes supported baton passing team, with a Splashing Wailord. And won. You have to try it!

TERRAfying
The Monkey is the Terrakion, the Frog is Everything
We will rock you
If the puns don't make you sick, they aren't... punny
The OU Bully
Banded Terrakion Don't Care
Ew, he's Stone Edging that poor bird

TERRAfying
The Monkey is the Terrakion, the Frog is Everything
We will rock you
If the puns don't make you sick, they aren't... punny
The OU Bully
Banded Terrakion Don't Care
Ew, he's Stone Edging that poor bird

I like the last one. Very typical.
But yeah, Can you think of one that has something to do with making mountains bow down? I can't think of one for that. So if you could, thanks.

Apparently, I can't claim Larvesta. But who cares?
It's still the cutest bug eva!

I am The Grovyle, that friend in a high place.

The craziest battle I ever had- Toxic spikes supported baton passing team, with a Splashing Wailord. And won. You have to try it!

Also, for the mountains one, I guess you could do "This little piggy went and toppled a mountain" if you have that in the states, if not, then "So scary, mountains fall Terrafied", and if that ones badly worded then maybe "The mountains fell in terra". My puns are too plain. Quoting bh, they're not even punny (i love that lol).

TERRAfying
The Monkey is the Terrakion, the Frog is Everything
We will rock you
If the puns don't make you sick, they aren't... punny
The OU Bully
Banded Terrakion Don't Care
Ew, he's Stone Edging that poor bird

These are terri-bull. Its good your not cowed by the facts these suck. Many people just be mooooooooo-ing along to avoid having to hoof it to the board and tell such a tail. Thats what i herd, its a toro-bull thing.

heres some.

A cow by any other name, is just as doe-eyed.

Stop being Bull headed.

My bulldog ran off, just to be safe, I'm putting up Bulletins.

Your a Can-A-Bull.

Bullseye.

In a bullfight, if the bull manages to take the Matador's accoutrement..
Does that make him 'Cape-A-Bull'????????????????????