I struggle to see this as any kind of generation thing. Rich's best stuff ran from 06 to 2010 ...Sam came about in 2012..two years apart.

In some ways it's really lazy to have not read that stuff . not saying that's you, but some fans are like that.

Sam's whole existence requires Rider in the dumpster... As long as this silly company insists on this, they split us all.

--Previous Message-- : : That is so cool! And whoever said that those : younger Nova fans see Sam as the real Nova : that is absolutely true! I am one of those : younger fans myself and to be honest I : actually like growing up with Sam Alexander : as my all time favorite character. Not to : say Rich isn't cool and all, but I never : grew up with him so I don't have that : connection. From what I've heard he's a : pretty likeable and badbutt character, but : it's hard to be a fan of something that : isn't really here anymore. But I respect you : Rich fans, because fictional characters can : be the greatest friends we have in our : lives. But I have seen a lot of hate towards : Sam, on here and pretty much everywhere else : where Nova is mentioned. And to me that : could be pretty offensive, because remember : what I said earlier about fictional : characters being our greatest friends? Sam : counts as that too. And all these other : comic book superheroes. So guys please : remember that the next time you are about to : insult Sam, or any other character for that : matter, you are insulting somebody's friend. : : : So does anybody want to see Carrie return? : Because to me she was an amazing character. : And does anybody know her last name? It is : like never mentioned! ??? : --Previous Message-- : Marvel may not do it - well not immediately : - : but it'll happen one day. As is Nova fans : who like me opt to write and draw our own : comics have already got Sam and Rich : together - take a look! : : : : http://wanderlei78.deviantart.com/art/nova-comic-page-7-478305268: : --Previous Message-- : : I can't believe that he won't eventually : come back. He was a major player. : : My take has always been to support anything : Nova. Make sure the franchise is solid and : that Marvel knows we love Nova stuff. : : Other camp argues that supporting anything : other than Richard will result in no : Richard. : : No one is really sure either way. I think : both viewpoints are valid. : : I, personally, think the temptation will : eventually be too much for them. They want : Sam as a character. He is going to be a : character and young fans will see him as THE : real version of Nova. But they have always : showed him as living under Rich's shadow. : Eventually the two will meet. : : : --Previous Message-- : Well even though I'll always be a die-hard : RR : fan- after all I focus on him for Nova619 : (as well as my Mod/contributions for NPP/ : etc); I have no beef with the SA camp. Just : respect each others views and everyone's : cool. And if Marvel ever listens maybe one : day RR will have his own title back and : everything can come together for a proper : Nova franchise. Daz/Nova3333 : : --Previous Message-- : : I never understood why it is required to : hate one thing in order to love another. : : Love me some Richard Rider. : : Enjoy some Sam Alexander; newest issue seems : to reset him in a direction I am liking. : : Plenty of room to like more than one : incarnation. : : All of this NINO/Rich stuff is like : "Arrgh! I love Captain Kirk! We don't : need this bald Captain Picard!!!" : : In truth, you can like BOTH characters. And : that is OK. : : : --Previous Message-- : These NINO fans just kill me with their : eagerness to engorge themselves from the : mediocrity trough. Thanos is right in : everything he said. It has to be pretty bad : when even a shill site like CBR gives it a : bad review. This new NINO garbage is on : life support right out of the gate and will : hopefully be gone before 12 issues of this : trash further sullies the Nova legacy. All : fans of Earth's only true Nova, Rich Rider, : should continue to boycott and continue to : call out the NINO mediocrity squad. Let's : send Marvel a clear message: NO MORE : NINO's!!!! : : --Previous Message-- : : You might get some of what you wish for. : See the interview (link on front page) with : the new writer: : : "His connection to Rich and the Novas : as a whole, though, is something I'm really : hoping to explore in that arc where he : searches for the Nova Force. I hope fans : like what I'm percolating about doing in : that arc. How's that for a tease?" : : So it sounds like his new story will start : to link to Rich (or at least info about him) : and the Nova Force and the whole history of : Nova. Who knows, even Worldmind. : : I would literally squeak like a schoolgirl : if an issue opened up with "Attention : Sam Alexander; it is critical that you pay : attention at this time." : : : --Previous Message-- : Rich or no Rich what bugged me about Sam's : run : was that it just forgets pretty much the : entire Nova history. I know you can't : burden the new readers with tons of back : issue baggage, but about midway through : Sam's last run when I quit I felt like the : only thing they cared to use was the name, : the rocket boosting and the idea of being a : space cop. It made me feel like I wasn't : really reading a Nova book. : : I think there is a balance of grabbing new : readers and pleasing old readers. A book : having an established history is not a bad : thing in a new readers eye. All middle age : and younger Marvel fans up to this point : jumped on in the middle somewhere. There : was a certain excitement you got from : starting the book in the middle of the : action. : : I think it's a big crime that they got rid : of editor's notes (or at least I rarely see : it anymore). That allowed for the sense of : a rich long history without leaving the new : guy out of the reference or create the need : to forced character dialogue to explain : references. I feel some of this ignoring of : established history is a product of the way : the comic book page has evolved : unfortunately. At least they standardized a : recap page. That was a great idea. : : --Previous Message-- : Been a while since I've posted here last, so : hello everyone. : : It really does suck that Rich is essentially : no more. However, the idea of resetting the : character is growing on me....as long as it : is done well. : : Eventually, (hopefully) Sam will turn into : the bada$$ we saw Rich become in : Annihilation. He is learning and growing as : an Avenger. I think Marvel likes the : character, but wanted to go a different : route. Just giving it a chance bc I love : Nova... he just needs to be done right. : : It seems as though Marvel likes the : character and wants it to do well... New : Series with is dad, IG, Nova on Disney's : Spiderman, my question is why don't they : incorporate him more into their extremely : popular mobile gaming? They have a ton of : mobile games and he is currently available : in 1 of them. Not a huge issue, but if they : really want to put him out there, wouldn't : you expect him to get some face time? : : --Previous Message-- : Had a chance to flip through it recently. : Yeah, Ssm Alexander is The Human : Rocket"...that's Marvel big slap in the : face of Richard Rider fans. That's how I am : taking and interpreting this new series. Has : Marvel ever given Miles Morales the : "Your Friendly Neighborhood : Spider-Man", or "The Amazing : Spider-Man" monikers? : I was never going to buy or pay money for : this issue but taking Rider's "Human : Rocket" title and giving it to Sam like : its no big deal just gets a very bad vibe : from me. Sorry, but even if this is Marvel's : attempt to steer the Sam character in a : better light with a brand new #1, I and many : other Classic Nova fans may never truly : accept the current character that : conveniently calls himself "Nova". : Not while Marvel downplays cosmic events : like Annihilation like it was no big deal, : and continues belittle many Rider fans in : subtle and not-so subtle ways. : : --Previous Message-- : I know this is off your topic but it's on : top : with Issue 1, : : I really enjoyed reading this issue. It gave : me the same vibe from when I read the 1st : issues from Classic Nova Vol 1. : : The way Sam interacted with his class mates : reminded me of Rich's interactions with : Bernie and Caps. : : --Previous Message-- : So some of my speculations have been : confirmed. : - The voice in the last two panels, either : Worldmind is back or he built another : computer. Maybe Jesse might be (last) : Xandarian, possibly from Engineer caste or : Nova Corps' expectations for its members to : maintain their equipment. : - Either Sam's helmet is allowing him to get : less sleep or he might be part alien with : "space physiology" (maybe Kaelynn : is too young to properly show up). Note that : only Kaelynn and Sam are able to use the : helmet and possibly Nova force sliver : (depends how much of ordinary Xandarians are : exposed to Worldmind's energy) might play a : role. : Well, I kinda make this thread on whether my : theories are becoming true. : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : : :