If they can't master something as simple as NOT USING WINDOWS for secure nuclear testing, what else do you think they are shiatty at?

Those were Siemens industrial controllers, actually. And it turns out that no one could protect themselves from Stuxnet - it ended up infecting a metric crapload of them, and not just in Iran. Yes, a PC was the vector. As it was in all other infected sites. Corporations run Windows.

From TFA: "But you still don't have a nuclear weapon," Heinonen added. Preparing the highly enriched uranium for a nuclear bomb would take another month or two, "assuming that someone has all the knowledge." After that, assembling an actual nuclear weapon that can be delivered with a ballistic missile would take perhaps another year, he said.

Omigod, "perhaps another year"?!?! When put into the context of the entirety of human history, that's practically yesterday!!! It's coming right for us!

With uranium the only bomb you'll be making is a fission gun type with at best an approximate yield of the bombs dropped over Japan. We have conventional weapons in the US arsenal that almost match that.

With uranium the only bomb you'll be making is a fission gun type with at best an approximate yield of the bombs dropped over Japan. We have conventional weapons in the US arsenal that almost match that.

Again? Does anyone still take this crap seriously? Seems like the big scary Iranians have been minutes away from destroying the free world for a solid decade. At this rate, they'll get themselves a viable bomb about 5 minutes before the Sun finally burns the Earth to a crisp.

With uranium the only bomb you'll be making is a fission gun type with at best an approximate yield of the bombs dropped over Japan. We have conventional weapons in the US arsenal that almost match that.

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And the bad part is that asshole wanted us to give him those MOABs, and Mountain Crushers because he's worried Iran will ever actually 1. Build a bomb and more importantly 2. Actually be able to deliver it anywhere

Israel has been crying wolf over Iran since before 2000. If they are so damned concerned, they should take action and face the consequences instead of trying to weasel other countries into doing their dirty work.

With uranium the only bomb you'll be making is a fission gun type with at best an approximate yield of the bombs dropped over Japan. We have conventional weapons in the US arsenal that almost match that.

And we pulled it off using 1940's technonlogy. If you want something to go boom ie the gadget, that's pretty straighforward. If you want it small enough to actually be deliverable, that takes work.

IdBeCrazyIf:And the bad part is that asshole wanted us to give him those MOABs, and Mountain Crushers because he's worried Iran will ever actually 1. Build a bomb and more importantly 2. Actually be able to deliver it anywhere

I say if it's an existential threat, he only gets existential weapons. Kierkegaard pamphlets and depressing poetry.

With uranium the only bomb you'll be making is a fission gun type with at best an approximate yield of the bombs dropped over Japan. We have conventional weapons in the US arsenal that almost match that.

And we pulled it off using 1940's technonlogy. If you want something to go boom ie the gadget, that's pretty straighforward. If you want it small enough to actually be deliverable, that takes work.

/we had the advantage of complete air superiority and a huge bomber.

There's no reason the Iranians couldn't cook up a spherical lensed explosive implosion bomb, either. The process is well known and off-the-shelf computing technology would make it a snap. If we could do it in the 40s, they could certainly do it now and it wouldn't be hard to keep a a small working group secret.

Only question is, what then?Do they pop this little firecracker over Israel and risk total obliteration within about an hour's time?People need to come down off the roof and take their meds.Neocons only know one song ... the war one.

HotIgneous Intruder:There's no reason the Iranians couldn't cook up a spherical lensed explosive implosion bomb, either. The process is well known and off-the-shelf computing technology would make it a snap. If we could do it in the 40s, they could certainly do it now and it wouldn't be hard to keep a a small working group secret.

Yeah but the problem is implosion bombs require Plutonium, not Uranium. Iran ain't got none ain't gonna have none either. So yeah you are right, everyone needs to get off the roof, take a xanax and calm the fark down.

kindms:they been saying this for decades. Israel just getting nervous now that Iran has been saying nicer things

Pretty much. How are they supposed to get free stuff and push around an agenda that would get them into trouble in most parts of the world, without Iran being seen as the ultimate most baddest boogeyman ever. Much better to keep the rhetoric up.

If they can't master something as simple as NOT USING WINDOWS for secure nuclear testing, what else do you think they are shiatty at?

So you're a shill for Iran?

Anyway, Windows isn't more or less secure than any other OS against a virus created specifically for that target (broadly speaking. I am sure some BSD version is super secure). If you don't connect your Windows PC to the internet, then any potential backdoors, or viruses roaming around is irrelevant.

The virus that got them was designed for their Siemens system only, and apparently could spread via USB sticks. And that in your world of course makes Siemens the idiots, not Iran. As Iran hasn't designed that control system.

And I'm pretty sure a company that amongst other things exports nuclear reactors aren't idiots.

If they can't master something as simple as NOT USING WINDOWS for secure nuclear testing, what else do you think they are shiatty at?

So you're a shill for Iran?

Anyway, Windows isn't more or less secure than any other OS against a virus created specifically for that target (broadly speaking. I am sure some BSD version is super secure). If you don't connect your Windows PC to the internet, then any potential backdoors, or viruses roaming around is irrelevant.

The virus that got them was designed for their Siemens system only, and apparently could spread via USB sticks. And that in your world of course makes Siemens the idiots, not Iran. As Iran hasn't designed that control system.

And I'm pretty sure a company that amongst other things exports nuclear reactors aren't idiots.

No, I am a shill for Apple, not for Iran.

Apple pays me $5 every time I bash Windows. Its a great way to make money

IdBeCrazyIf:Yeah but the problem is implosion bombs require Plutonium, not Uranium. Iran ain't got none ain't gonna have none either. So yeah you are right, everyone needs to get off the roof, take a xanax and calm the fark down.

With uranium the only bomb you'll be making is a fission gun type with at best an approximate yield of the bombs dropped over Japan. We have conventional weapons in the US arsenal that almost match that.