FEAR them? What the f*ck is the matter with you? They are combat rifles. They are designed to kill people. That is a simple fact. Just because you choose to ignore their design purpose, does not make you any less stupid for asserting their noble qualities.

If you need a rifle with a 30 round clip to go hunting, there are two reasons why:

1) You are a sh*t shot.2) You harbor fantasies of a world collapse, invest in gold, listen to Glenn Beck, and want to overthrow they tyrannical government,

In short, idiotic.

You have obviously never attempted to bring down a full grown bull rat in full gallop across the face of an open landfill, sir

Semantics is all anyone has if we want to understand what each other is talking about. We have to use the correct terms for things. We can't just decide that we want to start using an INCORRECT term for something and assume everyone will know what we're talking about.

Seriously, the people that biatch and whine and yell out "SEMANTICS IS ALL YOU HAVE!!" when they are corrected on terminology when trying to discuss this subject are being idiots. If you want to talk seriously about this, and try to find solutions, WE ALL HAVE TO BE SPEAKING THE SAME FARKING LANGUAGE.

After all of these threads is there really anyone left here that doesn't know there is an actual difference between a "clip" and a "magazine"? Is there anyone left that doesn't understand that "assault weapon" and "assault rifle" are not the same thing? Yet people still insist on using incorrect words and get their panties in a bunch when corrected.

fark it. The ones who are being willfully ignorant can keep on keeping on. Call a magazine a diddly-dooder and call an assault rifle a blangity-blang. What's it matter? It's just semantics after all.

Perhaps we should refer to assault weapons ban advocates as "child molesters". Should they protest, we will be able to accuse them of arguing "semantics".

Of course the police are going to want barbie guns. They are meant for looks, and for guys who want to go out and pretend that they are important and in the military. (applies both to police and even moreso to the civilians with barbie guns...)

Myself, I've got a couple AK47's/WASR's. They don't look quite as threatening, and I can't play dress up with them like the AR girls can. But as far as name recognition, pretty sure the AK47 wins, even after the recent events! Durability? Not even a question. And yes, the Ak47 might not quite as accurate, but nobody actually shoots for maximum accuracy with either one, there are guns that are much, much better for that.

(ohh, and there is the fact that the armourers tool kit for an AR 15 involves a couple hundred tiny little tools and gadgets. The armourers toolkit for an ak47? Can of wd-40 and a couple rocks.)

Allow me to piss off both sides of this argument by pointing out that these "assault weapons" are jive-ass toys.They take a low-powered, innaccurate semi-auto carbine and festoon it up with "military" features that are useless to anyone but a soldier in the field, and sell it for a fat markup.They have two real functions - to con the dollars out of stupid, macho gun-fappers pockets, and to scare the shiat out of ignorant liberals who don't know anything about guns.That's all they are especially good for - that and enriching those who make and sell them.

Frankly, I'd be embarrassed to be seen with one of the things - in my mind, they all look like this:

Mitrovarr:I'm not against SWAT teams and such having assault rifles available for situations that might actually require them, but it's incredibly dangerous for regular cops to be carrying them routinely. Between the rapid semiautomatic fire, the large clip, and (most importantly) using a rifle round, it's way too easy for them to put bullets all the way through the bad guy, whatever he's standing in front of, and whatever (or whomever) happens to be downrange for the next half mile or so.

Hahahaha, are you serious? Do you also think they shoot baby-skull seeking rounds?

GUTSU:Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: violentsalvation: NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Have you considered penis enlargement surgery? That would have a 0% chance of butchering 26 kindergarteners.

It must be nice dancing on the graves on children. Tell me, are you also wearing cleats?

violentsalvation:NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Have you considered penis enlargement surgery? That would have a 0% chance of butchering 26 kindergarteners.

IlGreven,BarkingUnicorn: "The new guns will ultimately be paid for by the officers themselves who are taking a deduction in their paychecks to make this happen."Something smells fishy about that.

You need to know that they finance their toys through creative law enforcement. Sometimes following drivers one or two yards behind the car they are tailing, sometime escalating incidents. This will not be free.

Can you point to me which amendment in the Bill of Rights said "women not being allowed to vote shall not be infringed," and "the upgrading of darkies from 3/5ths a person to one whole shall not be undertook?"