It says in your profile you teach out of Horizon Martial Arts in West Seneca, but yet there's no mention of you on there at all under the instructors list (http://www.horizonma.com/instructors.html)(you would think having someone of your "credentials" and "titles" they would definitely put you on there, but sadly, no). You also said you represent Denz Dungeon Submission Fighting but the only reference I can find there is from Etapout.com, the online MMA game (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22...b-t&fl=0&x=wrt).

I'd also like to know who you defeated for the EFC lightweight championship (having fought in one myself in Virginia in 2001, one of the many Marines that did fight that day) and see a page that shows off your records. I also wasn't aware that NYJJ (not NYJJI like you spelled it) even had championships, they sure don't say any on their page (http://www.nyjiujitsu.com/index.html). And searching the JJIF website revealed no evidence of your so-called championship either (http://www.google.com/u/USJJF?hl=en&...=usjujitsu.net).

Face it: you just got Bullshidoed :5dunce:

I am an Issitint In structor. There is also No Listing of Scott Caffery
Janice Strace or Boyd Ritchie.

I beat Joe VadenEyden For The Belt
at EFC 6 on Jan 24, 2004
& I also Beat Silver Back Light Weight Vale Tudo Champ
Wayde Choat at EFC7 March 05 2004

Im Fight Again on Jan 29th 2005 at Promo West
In Columbus Ohio. Against Rob Hendee ( Hammer House)

If U want To Check it out That would Be Great
Contact Bo Kimly Who is The Promoter for The EFC at Ju-Jutsu@bright.net

He is looking for Fighters!

Also My Web Site is being Worked on now
By Silver Star Web Design

Go to The United States Ju Jitsu Federation
Web Sight & U will Find My Name in 1st Place
under 2003. U.S. Nationals & can also
Befound in American Samuri Magazine

NYJJI Stoped holding Events in 2002
But U can Contact Ernie Mcpeek About How Many Time's
I won at NYJJI

The 2001 North American Championships were
held in Colling wood Ontario Canada U can Contact Patrick Barton
Who Held The Event.

My Picture & Prfile Are on Martial Talk
Check it out I am holding both Belts

Nothing to Erase

Originally Posted by Koto_Ryu

And if he tries to change it before responding, here's his profile ;) This all came up due to his claim of beginning the martial arts at age 2, which was already proven wrong in the "What's your martial art?" thread.

Martial Arts Experience:
I started Martial arts at the Age of 2 Under My Father, I Have Been Training in Modern Arnis for almost 8 Years I have also Trained in Ju Jitsu,Sambo,Submission Wrestling,J.K.D. & Bondo. I have a Record of 3-In Mixed Martial Arts Fights,19 - 4 in Ju Jitsu & 6 - 2 In Grappling. I train & Teach out of Horizon Martial Arts & also Represent Denz Dungeon Submission Fighting.

It's all True

Like I have posted Contact Bo Kimly.

What is Your Weight Class I can Use another
Fight in the up Coming Futer
My Next Fight is Jan 29th 2005 At Pro Mo West
In Columbus Ohio

What is Your Weight Class I can Use another
Fight in the up Coming Futer
My Next Fight is Jan 29th 2005 At Pro Mo West
In Columbus Ohio

I did see that on a better look (before dinner, I never have patience, I need food! :)) but couldn't find a fight card anywhere on the Internet for it. The link you previously posted doesn't work at all, this one however does: http://www.usjujitsu.net/news/nationals2003/index.htm

We can see you did get the gold:

MALE ADULT DIVISIONS  KUMITE

WEIGHT CLASS  62 < 69 kg ( 137  152 lbs.)

GOLD  PRIMO LUCIANO  WEST SENECA, NY

However this was the rules as stated on the page for that tourney that come close to explaining what you guys did:

At this time the USJJF presents duo competitions and kumite. The duo, consists of two people partnering for performance of defense techniques; each player taking turn on attack and defense against grasping, embracing, club or knife, and punch or kick. Two teams are called to the tatami and each team performs the four categories of attack. After each partnership is done with their presentation, judges score the actions, and the duo with the highest overall score wins. Eliminations proceed on the chart in the same manner as in the kumite competition. Right now, the attacks are fixed in the categories and the referee tells you which attack you must use. The USJJF has decided that in national competition entrants will have an open attack choice and that you can make up your own attack for you presentation in the four categories. We want to go an open sequence, where you can make up your own attack sequence and then present it. We want to be able to include weapons in this presentation and use open hands against weapons, and weapons against weapons.

It sounds like a jujitsu version of point sparring almost. And I don't think you want me as a sparring partner, if you're in the 137-152lb range, I have about 30 pounds on you if you're at the maximum of that range.