I find it difficult to see the logic of defending monogamous marriage as the historic norm when the laws of many states have already departed from the principle that it is heterosexual, monogamous marriage that is essential to social stability.Put bluntly, if heterosexuality is no longer legally, morally or socially relevant to marriage, why should monogamy continue to be so important?

Yeah? "Let there be light".Light, day and night before the sun was created in Gen 1:16.It's clear they didn't know that day and night were caused by the rotation of section of the earth towards and away form the sun. It also seems they believed the moon produced its own light, and it's clear they believed the earth was flat, and the heavens were solid.

I find it difficult to see the logic of defending monogamous marriage as the historic norm when the laws of many states have already departed from the principle that it is heterosexual, monogamous marriage that is essential to social stability.

Put bluntly, if heterosexuality is no longer legally, morally or socially relevant to marriage, why should monogamy continue to be so important?

<quoted text>They are actually increasing in numbers. They haven't "always".

Tell us a biblical prophesy that has come true. Again, not one of the vague, "and there will be disease and war in various places" type of "prophesy". And no circular ones, prophesies both written and "fulfilled" in the buybull.

<quoted text>No, dumbass. Faith is believing in something for which there is no evidence. When there is no evidence, disbelief is the logical response.

Definition of FAITH

faith[feyth] Show IPAnoun1.confidence or trust in a person or thing2.belief that is not based on proof: He had faith that the hypothesis would be substantiated by fact.3.belief in God or in the doctrines or teachings of religion4.belief in anything5.a system of religious belief: the Christian faith; the Jewish faith.

You have faith (confidence, belief) that there is no God. Me, not so much. I think you are arrogant to feel that way. Nature must not give you the same sense of awe that it does me. Probably because you're a miserable dope!

If you want to marr a rock it is your desition, but dont't make it a law.our vote doesn't count any more... THAT'S ILLEGAL!!!!

What's ILLEGAL!!!! is denying people equal protection under the law. Even when doing so is popular with dummies like you. Why do you think we have a Constitution, courts, checks and balances, and don't just vote on everything? Because, as they say, democracy is 3 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

<quoted text>I find it difficult to see the logic of defending monogamous marriage as the historic norm when the laws of many states have already departed from the principle that it is heterosexual, monogamous marriage that is essential to social stability.Put bluntly, if heterosexuality is no longer legally, morally or socially relevant to marriage, why should monogamy continue to be so important?

Red herring.Polygamy just isn't an equal rights issue, gay marriage is.Notice I'm not arguing for or against polygamy.

<quoted text>Yeah? "Let there be light".Light, day and night before the sun was created in Gen 1:16.It's clear they didn't know that day and night were caused by the rotation of section of the earth towards and away form the sun. It also seems they believed the moon produced its own light, and it's clear they believed the earth was flat, and the heavens were solid.

1. So between day two and day four they DID learn that the sun governed the day and the moon the night?

2. Except the Bible never calls the earth flat, it calls it a circle. Maybe you are confusing a mistaken interpretation with what the Bible actually says...?

<quoted text>I find it difficult to see the logic of defending monogamous marriage as the historic norm when the laws of many states have already departed from the principle that it is heterosexual, monogamous marriage that is essential to social stability.Put bluntly, if heterosexuality is no longer legally, morally or socially relevant to marriage, why should monogamy continue to be so important?

Excellent point.

Sociologists believe that the binding purpose of marriage is binding a father and mother together for the benefit of the child.

No fault divorce has already fractured that bind with devastating results.

To further separate procreation from marriage is to complete the lack of necessity for marriage.

Add to that the claim that a father or mother can be removed from the family without effect and the destruction is complete.

And why privilege such a relationship between two people? Why not two best friends? An employer and his favorite employee? A farmer and his dog?

The social good of marriage, as it has been traditionally understood, has always been rooted, among other things, in its role in the continuance of the human race–i.e., procreation and children. If we excise procreation from the stated civic purposes of marriage–as we are increasingly doing–then what’s the point? It’s just a random, arbitrary relationship that we’ve defined that we somehow think is good for the community. But why?

And what interest does the community have in protecting and subsidizing a sterile relationship between two people “in love”(ostensibly…or not)?

To be honest I wouldn't jump for joy if one of my kids were gay but I would love and support them no matter what I know it would be a open bar during the ceremony. What have notice over the years living from Compton to Lakewood my family pretty much had money. White folks realy care about what people do behind there own close doors and what people think about them I know I am married one. If they want to get married so what. People are so afraid of everyone might invade there picture perfect lives let me tell you something let's start out the year of not judging

To be honest I wouldn't jump for joy if one of my kids were gay but I would love and support them no matter what I know it would be a open bar during the ceremony. What have notice over the years living from Compton to Lakewood my family pretty much had money. White folks realy care about what people do behind there own close doors and what people think about them I know I am married one. If they want to get married so what. People are so afraid of everyone might invade there picture perfect lives let me tell you something let's start out the year of not judging

Well don’t lump us all together, I am white, straight, with 4 children that happen to be straight, and I support Gay Marriage, as does my wife and all of my children and their spouses.

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