It really isn't fair, is it. Debating someone over reality when the other guy has no concept of what is real. This video is one-sided, in that it only shows Sam Harris talking away, but he makes point after point about why this god guy stuff is so messed up. A nice synopsis of some key complaints we smart folks have about the bible.

It really isn't fair, is it. Debating someone over reality when the other guy has no concept of what is real. This video is one-sided, in that it only shows Sam Harris talking away, but he makes point after point about why this god guy stuff is so messed up. A nice synopsis of some key complaints we smart folks have about the bible.

Yes,completely agree. Lets be honest Sam Harris is beyond well spoken. I have watched the video 5 times already. I wish every religious person would watch this video.

You probably should have put the video in the general religious section, because it is a quick summation for Christians about the lack of logic and love in the Christian religion. Visitors should see this.

Just the idea of an eternal hell, when examined, is disregarded by many christians - it just throws morality out the window that a caring, loving wiccan will be eternally punished. Pretzel logic and bible contradictions needed.

And the "free will" argument - where the lack of belief in a god along with realizing the truth that free will does not exist, results in an understanding of what that means morally to society - shows that punishment is always wrong. Even the serial killer deserves humane treatment when cause and response is understood. Religion holds back true morality.

We are responsible for humanity. We are responsible for helping each other.

edit: bad English, as PP says

Could i get a moderator to move it?

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We humans may never figure out the truth, but I prefer trying to find it over pretending we know it.

OK...now I have wasted (?) major should-be-productive parts of the last couple of days with listening to all sorts of Sam Harris stuff on youtube. For whatever reason, I hadn't seen much by him before, but I just love the way he presents his case.