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Enough of orochimaru being the strongest

Orochimaru is not the strongest shinobi in history for the love of god..

1. Sasuke is in control of the whole scenario if anything he will be the one who is strongest.
2. Nine tails army > 4 hokages
3. Oro isn't going to rise as a main antagonist again, sasuke can own orochimaru now with ems if itachi could with ms. There are no control talismans on the hokages and sasuke isnt gonna let him control those hokages. Believe that.
4. Where can you find one shred of evidence that oro is definitively better than jiraiya? I say this cause there are lots of ninja better than jiraiya meaning your boy oro isn't even top 5
5. Oro < Nagato
6. The main villain is by and far Madara uchia.. He been running game and manipulatin the whole shinobi world since before orochimarus parents were even born. Madara is the real OG you know this.
7. Oro stated he could be killed by 4 tails naruto, what do you think km naruto could do?
8. Even if orochimaru controls the hokages, What do you think that GAI and Kakashi naruto with kurama chakra share and lets say sai for sealing would do to oro and the 4 hokages? Considering rock lee fodderized edo Madara team naruto would crush them with imputiny.

Orochimaru isn't the greatest shinobi of all time, face it.
Ps maybe you aren't creepy but being an oro fanboy connotates "creepy"

Re: Enough of orochimaru being the strongest

Originally Posted by blazekev90

If Kakashi is your fave do i really need to state why?? Kakashi himself knows this lmao

haha dude, the fact that you still have yet to present any legitimate points shows that you are most likely just a butthurt kakashi hater and not even an oro fan. That said, on to OT...of course oro isn't the strongest, he knows a good many techniques but that means little. Hiruzen knew every technique it was within his power to know from the hidden leaf, and oro definitely couldn't do anything but send the first and second against him which hiruzen was handling fairly well. The only other major happenings with oro were his no arms battle with 4 tails naruto, in which he admitted that if naruto was acting of his own mind, not rampaging he could easily kill him, and then sasuke basically pwning him from existance until recently when oro tried to control his body. The only thing i will say for oro though, is he is durable, and given his various regeneration techs that require little to no chakra from him if used right he could in all practical senses be immortal in that even if he dies in short time now, logically there would be some far off hidden base no one ever knew of but him that countains more samples of his dna which could potentially lead to his regrowth again, just like how even after sasuke destroyed him, he lived on in kabuto and began to take over. He may not be top 5 or even top 10 but surely it can be agreed that he has quite the will and means to outlive ust about any other character.

Re: Enough of orochimaru being the strongest

Originally Posted by spatha

haha dude, the fact that you still have yet to present any legitimate points shows that you are most likely just a butthurt kakashi hater and not even an oro fan. That said, on to OT...of course oro isn't the strongest, he knows a good many techniques but that means little. Hiruzen knew every technique it was within his power to know from the hidden leaf, and oro definitely couldn't do anything but send the first and second against him which hiruzen was handling fairly well. The only other major happenings with oro were his no arms battle with 4 tails naruto, in which he admitted that if naruto was acting of his own mind, not rampaging he could easily kill him, and then sasuke basically pwning him from existance until recently when oro tried to control his body. The only thing i will say for oro though, is he is durable, and given his various regeneration techs that require little to no chakra from him if used right he could in all practical senses be immortal in that even if he dies in short time now, logically there would be some far off hidden base no one ever knew of but him that countains more samples of his dna which could potentially lead to his regrowth again, just like how even after sasuke destroyed him, he lived on in kabuto and began to take over. He may not be top 5 or even top 10 but surely it can be agreed that he has quite the will and means to outlive ust about any other character.

Very well said sir, finally someone who knows what a logical argument is.