Are any non-Trump voters around here starting to be concerned about the Obama administration turning it's counter-intelligence resources on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election? I realize that there's always the chance that we will eventually find some super compelling basis for the spying, but given what we know now are any of you starting to think that maybe there really was something rotten going on?

You should post links to previous reports that the investigation started with the FISA surveillance of Carter Page while you’re at it. What do you think all these conflicting reports, revised reports, and false reports add up to?

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You should post links to previous reports that the investigation started with the FISA surveillance of Carter Page while you’re at it. What do you think all these conflicting reports, revised reports, and false reports add up to?

They show precisely what I stated. That the FBI began the investigation after Papadopoulos ran his mouth.

You then stated this:

That's not based on facts if you don't know the facts. It's based on partial information (that may or may not be true) that supports a theory you're comfortable with and ignores other information (that may or may not be true) that conflict with that theory.

As we can see, you are incorrect.

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They show precisely what I stated. That the FBI began the investigation after Papadopoulos ran his mouth.

You then stated this:

That's not based on facts if you don't know the facts. It's based on partial information (that may or may not be true) that supports a theory you're comfortable with and ignores other information (that may or may not be true) that conflict with that theory.

As we can see, you are incorrect.

That doesn’t make any sense and no I’m not incorrect. Your opinions aren’t facts. Maybe it’s hard for you to admit this.

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That doesn’t make any sense and no I’m not incorrect. Your opinions aren’t facts. Maybe it’s hard for you to admit this.

It makes perfect sense. You just don't like it. Have you read the Nunes memo? If not, please do. And pay particular attention to the last page, where it states that the Papadopoulos meeting triggered the FBI investigation.

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That’s what Gowdy said, for the record. I’m sure he’ll be disappointed to learn that partisans like yourself aren’t satisfied with his explanation.

Gowdy didn’t give an explanation. Gowdy told us we’d be satisfied with the explanation if we ever heard it and it’s not completely clear what part of the FBI’s activities he’s referring to with this vague reassurance. Remember that he’s previously expressed concern about the FISA warrant process. Did his statement revoke those concerns?

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You should post links to previous reports that the investigation started with the FISA surveillance of Carter Page while you’re at it. What do you think all these conflicting reports, revised reports, and false reports add up to?

It adds up to a right wing smoke screen to detract from the facts....

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It’s adequate as all get out.... just ask yourself who is supposed to investigate Russian infiltration. You will hear yourself answer, “the FBI.”

Actually it's been the post 9/11 mentality of our govt that has created a mis-mash of CIA intel and FBI law enforcement duties that has led to this spying on a campaign. The left and their media are trying to spin their way out of what they were really doing. The illogic here, is if Russians were doing what is claimed, Obama admin didn't really stop it.

It makes perfect sense. You just don't like it. Have you read the Nunes memo? If not, please do. And pay particular attention to the last page, where it states that the Papadopoulos meeting triggered the FBI investigation.

Please get up to speed on subsequent news soon.

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You aren’t being driven by facts here. If you think you are, you’re delusional.

I stating that it is a fact that the Nune's memo states that the FBI investigation was triggered by the Papadopoulos meeting. It does. Why you are attempting to state that it doesn't is beyond me. TDS finally get to you, or something?

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