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They are not competitive re that aspect now and unlikely will be in the future. They will need to use DI and dynamic black etc. Bulb dimning etc. They do have other advantages and if superiority in these aspects is important to you, then these may dictate the choice of this technology. I prefer DLP to SXRD etc myself. Single chip and three chip. Unfortunately 3 chip DLP is held artificially expensive by DI, I suspect.

Okay, I stand corrected on the price range. However, the dlp chip tech is so stagnant because of what was mentioned earlier. No motivation to make a better chip due to the shrinking home market. DI has nothing to do with what TI has done and that really is the only increase in contrast in the last how many years. These manufacturers are hamstrung by the limits of what the dlp chips can do.

It would be nice if the dlp tech could be bought out by projector manufacturers since that seems to be the only area of application left.

Is it possible that we have reached the limits of native contrast of dlp tech?

Okay, I stand corrected on the price range. However, the dlp chip tech is so stagnant because of what was mentioned earlier. No motivation to make a better chip due to the shrinking home market. DI has nothing to do with what TI has done and that really is the only increase in contrast in the last how many years. These manufacturers are hamstrung by the limits of what the dlp chips can do.

It would be nice if the dlp tech could be bought out by projector manufacturers since that seems to be the only area of application left.

Is it possible that we have reached the limits of native contrast of dlp tech?

It appears that advances in the home pj tech will need to come from DILA, improving on areas that DLP has had the advantages, as noted eariler, sharpness and motion. It will be interesting to see if the future use of improved LEDs and laser with DILA will help close that gap or if they are simply inherent in the DILA architecture. Although there was some earlier talk/rumor that JVC wouldn't utilize LEDs, with an unspoken assumption that they would use laser next, whenever that may be, which doesn't sound as though it will be soon.

That sucks.
At the moment, DLP is the only technology clear of cross-talk in 3D. I am waiting for a nice 1080p 3D DLP projector at 120 Hz. If TI is not willing to invest in further research in DLP chips for home market, then the wait could be forever.

Front projection is a very small niche. The demise of RP DLP was the end of the incentive
to deliver any new chip. This puts the ball in the manufactures hands but they are also under constraints via TIs contract. TIs resource are currently tied up ( thanks to Sony ) bringing to market 4k D-cinema projection which will eventually trickle down to the consumer. We are most likely to see 4k Lcos & or LCD hit first.

Everyone wanted flat and while DLP was flat compared to Direct Sets, it wasnt as flat as Plasma or LCD. The only thing that bothered me about DLP sets was that the bulbs didnt last very long

Agreed that the form factor of the set mattered more to the general buying public than image quality. As far as bulb life my first HDTV purchased spring 2004 was a Samsung DLP that now has 8000+ hours on the original bulb and still going, which has been a pleasant surprise to me. I have heard of some lasting over 12,000 hours.

I think TI had improved the native contrast of the DLP DMD about as far as the laws of physics would allow. Each successive iteration of DarkChip seemed to bring a smaller improvement than the one before it, to the point were the difference between DC4 and DC3 was hard to notice. LED and Dynamic Black were clearly more promising technologies in terms of improving perceived contrast for DLP TV/Projectors so that is where the development efforts have gone.

...Each successive iteration of DarkChip seemed to bring a smaller improvement than the one before it, to the point were the difference between DC4 and DC3 was hard to notice. LED and Dynamic Black were clearly more promising technologies in terms of improving perceived contrast for DLP TV/Projectors so that is where the development efforts have gone.

Agreed. My SP8602 with DC3 is a noticeable improvement in many areas over my IN83 with the DC4.

I cant argue with that although I think that flatness of the TV was a bigger issue than the image at least with the general public

I agree. Slim seems to be the big fad despite the rather obvious uniformity issues with edge lit TVs. But I guess their profile is sexy enough to dismiss the glaring issues (like so many other things in life huh!!).

I agree. Slim seems to be the big fad despite the rather obvious uniformity issues with edge lit TVs. But I guess their profile is sexy enough to dismiss the glaring issues (like so many other things in life huh!!).

Look at Samsung, they have those LCD\\LED that are paper thin thick. Most of the machinery is in the base. Cool idea. But lets be honest, except for the cool factor, does it really matter if the TV is 1 inch of the wall or 2. The public walked away from DLP because they were sold on the slim issue. I am the wrong person to complain as I only switched from a CRT to a LCD computer screen maybe 2 years ago

I certainly agree with he comments about the appeal of slimness, but also agree that once its down to ~2" or so, it hardly matters anymore (compared to 15" deep). The much higher brightness of LED also diminished the appeal of RPTV, and also plasma (even though they are also slim) for this reason.

I always liked that the rear projection DLP set gives a large screen size bang for the buck, but it's that screen "sheen" and that beautiful invention called the "wobulated" chip that doesn't help with respect to PQ. That dang wobulated chip always irked me.