Friday, June 26, 2009

House Passes Cap and Trade Bill: Who Voted For H.R. 2454? And Which 8 Republicans Did?

The House of Representatives has passed the so-titled "American Clean Energy And Security Act of 2009" by a narrow margin of 7 votes (219 - 212). The House Clerk has posted the results of the roll call vote and you can view them below.

Which Republicans Voted For HR 2454?

But first, here are the names and numbers of the 8 Republican traitors who voted for the Cap and Trade bill today:

Boehner WAS great and Waxman was clearly uncomfortable that his additional 300 pages no one had time to read was being exposed as the dirty little secret that it was. We can only hope that this bill will be DOA in the senate. Pelosi (I sure hate that woman) will be the blame for the Americans who end up freezing in the winter and dying of heat stroke in the south due to the doubling of their electric bills. Not to mention the job losses (as acknowledged in the bill) that will go overseas and all the stress that creates for our own people. I've been faxing and emailing my representatives and any others that I can get through to. The best way is through their DC offices and faxes. This has got to stop before we all go over the cliff. Get active and get the word out.

@Anon1 Yes we very well might be! But let's not lose hope just yet. This could die in the Senate. We must be active and vigilant to avert its passage.

@Daryl You are quite right- that the 44 Democrats who voted no deserve a lot of credit for their courage (at least on this issue).

@Anon2 Why don't we? Because that would just make far too much sense!

@Anon3 Your calls to action are much appreciated! That is what we absolutely must do to avoid the horror of Americans "freezing in the winter and dying of heat stroke in the south due to the doubling of their electric bills."

@Anon4 If you're worried about the little guy, you must absolutely oppose HR 2454. It will raise energy prices, and that will cause all the costs of living to go up as well.

The rich will be able to absorb a sharp increase in the costs of living- the poor on the other hand, who barely have enough to make ends meet, will be squeezed into dire poverty.

There is no such thing as climate change. And even if there were we can't do a damn thing about it. We are so arogant to think that we can save the planet. God designed this planet very smartly. If you keep things clean, (i.e. don't dump chemicals, have some air quality measures which we have had since the 70s) we have very little impact on the environment. Carbon dioxide is not our enemy. People need to wake up and realize that the government is using this fake crisis to control our lives. I haven't seen any of them reducing the amount of polution they spew into the atomosphere. They're all flying around in their private jets and driving their SUVs. Oh, but they buy carbon credits. What a CROCK. They don't have any intention of sacrificing they're way of life, but they expect us to. For what? For an invented hoax by people who only care about having power over our lives. Volcanoes put more polution into the atmosphere than all of the polution we created since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Why don't you try reading books from scientists who have an opposing point of view instead of being spoon fed this garbage from the media. USE YOUR BRAIN!

You are quite right that government is the number one offender when it comes to pollution. If they really wanted to cut emissions, they might consider significantly scaling back the government's emissions.

i am going to get involved for the first time in my life to throw those bums out! congress AGAIN has disrespected the will of the people. we saw what happened with the bailouts so we are on to you congress!

@Anon Nuclear energy would be a phenomenal option- but instead of lifting strangling restrictions on the market and allowing people to decide for themselves how valuable nuclear energy is to us, Congress has decided to create more restrictions.

@MostRecentAnon Good! Thank you for your involvement! If you'd like to stay updated on how to get involved and how to make a difference, keep on reading the Humble Libertarian.

Co2 is not toxic. It has NOTHING to do with smog. Ignorant people with little minds think CO2 is causing climate change. Grow up and read some books! Listen to scientists not politicians for a friggin change! Yes, there is a thing called climate change but guess what? We as humans cannot change that. It is normal and has been happening since the dawn of time.

Co2 is not the cause of it and neither is man. If you think otherwise then wrap yer head inna plastic sack because you are contibuting to your own demise with each breath you exhale and the world will thank you for your efforts!

The reason nuclear isn't getting discussed is the demonization that occurred during the 80s with the movie the China Syndrome, Three Mile Island and Chernoble in the USSR (the only accident of any consequence). The nuclear sub program has never had an accident and they have been around for decades. Again, all of this has nothing to do with the environment. It's all about the power. Obama seems to think that nuclear is OK for Iran, who would certain only use it to gain nuclear weapons. All we get is wind and solar. If these energy sources were viable they would be widely used by now. Also, you can't run jets, ships and cars on wind and solar. Only when fossil fuels are priced out of the market will we get any viable fuel alternative. The market works. What we need to do is educate ourselves. Don't walk in lock step with the mainstream scientists and media who just want to scare us into giving up our freedom. Read books. A great one is "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming and Evironmentalism" by Christopher C. Horner.

Here's a few of the facts he brings out.*The Earth has often been hotter than it is now.*Only a tiny portion of greenhouse gasses are man-made*Most of Antarctica is getting colder* The media only recently abandoned the "global cooling scare"

There are a lot of great books out there. All you have to do is search for them.

Remember what Rohm Emmanuel said, "Never waste a good crisis."

I think he should revise that statement to read, "never waste a good made up crisis". That would be more accurate.

This bill won't hurt the rich or the poor. The only people it will hurt, is the middle class. This bill will destroy all rural communities and wreak havoc on the American agricultural industry. People in urban areas have very little understanding of how adversely this will affect rural areas. For one, this will cripple the primary industries in rural areas like oil and agriculture. Two, most people in rural areas will have more energy related expenses because they don't have federally funded public transportation.

you my dear sir are an ass hole of major prportians. your republican propaganda is beyond comprehension. the only thing you little republican scum bags care about is screwing the american middle class. now i will deal with you little right wing morons. my god you people are dumb as fence posts. 98% of of scientists agree that this world is in a state of crisis due to global warming. the other 2% work for oil co.s and the republican party. need i say more ass holes. my god i cant beleive there are people out there that are this stupid. check your facts jerk offs. you balless wonders dont even have the guts to post your address and phone #. i do. don corpier, doncorpier@gmail.com, 6707 crory rd. canfield ohio 44406. phone # 3302070357. i will leave it at this you little cunt face nazis.

Don- be really, really honest: was your comment in good taste? Crafted with the intention of having a genuine, charitable dialogue with other human beings? Likely to change anyone's mind and help them to see your point of view? A good reflection on the environmentalist cause you apparently feel very strongly about?

Your disagreement is certainly welcome on my website. I am glad to hear and entertain opposing beliefs. As for baseless invective and obscene insults, those don't contribute much of anything to the world except more anger and malice, of which we already have too much.

You did make one argument in your comment, and I will address it: "98% of of scientists agree that this world is in a state of crisis due to global warming. the other 2% work for oil co.s and the republican party."

Could you please cite a source? It is an unequivocal, inarguable fact- as empirically verified by scientific measurements in universities and research units throughout the world- that global temperatures have been on a slight decline since 1998 (source).

Your punctuation, capitalization, and spelling betray your education. Also please try not to be so hateful in your messages. You gain no friends and make your arguments weaker. I agree with Mr. Messamore about good taste. If you would open your mind a crack and do some research you might learn something instead of parroting doctrine from someone else. Almost every day there are more and more scientists who refute man-made global warming. You might check some of the sources quoted above. I can't immediately quote a source but I believe that about half of climate scientists now don't believe in man-made global warming. You might check a site called, I think, groundstations.org. This site documents ground temperature measuring stations which are compromised by being close to heat sources. Have a good day.T.