After reading a topic on another forum regarding the keys there codes and the fact no one seems to have the code series even on there key code software ! for what is a 30 year old key and patent well expired I thought id start this topic to see what if anything can be done regarding the code series used ! or at least document some of the keys depths and spacings .

lp101 topic failed really to go anywhere with this...lets do better but of course if some lucky sole out there as the little code book marked

INGERSOLL TOP SECRET WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU !!

id like this topic to be a work in progress to see if we can make some sense out of it and does require lots of your photos ... this will help the cause greatly !

The goal ... to understand & produce a working cutting card with space and depths such as the cards used on the hpc cutting machines

more to follow .

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Well, even if we cant find a book to decode blind codes, hopefully if there are enough keys to analyze you can reverse engineer a depth and space chart and from that info we can make a code cutting card.

No one really knows as the codes are secret or should I say only known by a few !! so where the true code runs from tip or shoulder is also a good point ! too little is known about code cutting these keys.mbi is correct we can make a cutting card from the known depths and spaces so we can visually decode the key as and when they become available to us.

Here is a picture of my key on Photobucket. Tomorrow I'll dig the actual key out and take a better picture, as well as measurements. If I remember correctly, there are three or 5 depths, I think five. Will check my info when I get home.

Have disassembly pictures on my phone, never got back around to making a write-up.

Let's make this happen!

Gordon

Just when you think you've learned it all, that is when you find you haven't learned anything yet.

Keep in mind that the locks used by the military have had three numbers from the code removed by drilling a hole through the code stamped on the key. At least one of those three numbers are part of the code that tells which key blank is used. Clearly, the catalog page you showed will clarify the blank.

Gordon

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Just when you think you've learned it all, that is when you find you haven't learned anything yet.

I'll post mine up soon. I want to know who the hell keeps drilling holes right through the codes on the bow??! Mine are like that too. **EDIT** Just seen why this is done, cheers Gordon**EDIT**

But more pertinently (possibly) I was talking to someone at a funeral the other day who just so happens to work for Ingersoll. Well, Ingersoll Rand to be precise. But they might be good to ask about it, I'm sure there are people there who know.

Wait, I know I've mentioned several times before that this is the lock I use on my front door so maybe I won't post a pic after all!

The code is 7 7*?? A 303

* maybe, very obscured by the beginning of the drill hole

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Yes ! Gordon I have taken this into account I have split the code into 3 digit numbers as it makes sense at this point ! codes above it will get interesting if and when the same code key is sort and they match or not

Thank you hp any help would be great ! 303 confirmed I will had this to the codes

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