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End Of the World

So I'm getting my personal stuff in order for December 21st and I just realised that Australia will get to the 21st before America. Does that mean Australia blows up earlier than America or does that mean we get an extra day and our world won't end until December 22nd?

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That's great, it starts with an earthquake, birds and snakes, an aeroplane
And Lenny Bruce is not afraid
Eye of a hurricane, listen to yourself churn
World serves its own needs, dummy serve your own needs.

Everyone can be great, because everyone can serve.~ Martin Luther King, Jr.

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We pass from 12.19.19.17.19 to 13.0.0.0.0
(They started in 3113 BC for 0.0.0.0.1)
13 baktuns = 13*144,000 = 1,872,000 days from -3113. So (1 year = 365.242 days in they system) = 5125.37 years
5125.37-3113 gives ... 2012 !

All the turmoils is over the simple passage to a 13.0.0.0.0 in their system...

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Originally Posted by ravenstar

So I'm getting my personal stuff in order for December 21st and I just realised that Australia will get to the 21st before America. Does that mean Australia blows up earlier than America or does that mean we get an extra day and our world won't end until December 22nd?

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Originally Posted by ravenstar

So I'm getting my personal stuff in order for December 21st and I just realised that Australia will get to the 21st before America. Does that mean Australia blows up earlier than America or does that mean we get an extra day and our world won't end until December 22nd?

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We have the television set to record so that we can watch it all right up to our own demise.

I just realized though that I have a shit load of good wine that I had better start drinking this morning.

And as I pointed out in another thread....the return of Gaincarlo, Rolyo, Chance and EnchantedSexKittenWienerslav is what triggers the chain of cosmic events that leads to the quantum singularity on the 21st.

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^
The 2012 Solstice occurs on 21st December at 11:12 AM (GMT/UTC).
That is the exact same moment for everywhere in the world.
Just convert the GMT/UTC time of 11.12 AM to your local time zone, to find the exact timeing of the Solstice for wherever you happen to be on that date.

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Originally Posted by HoodedRat

^
The 2012 Solstice occurs on 21st December at 11:12 AM (GMT/UTC).
That is the exact same moment for everywhere in the world.
Just convert the GMT/UTC time of 11.12 AM to your local time zone, to find the exact timeing of the Solstice for wherever you happen to be on that date.

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We pass from 12.19.19.17.19 to 13.0.0.0.0
(They started in 3113 BC for 0.0.0.0.1)
13 baktuns = 13*144,000 = 1,872,000 days from -3113. So (1 year = 365.242 days in they system) = 5125.37 years
5125.37-3113 gives ... 2012 !

All the turmoils is over the simple passage to a 13.0.0.0.0 in their system...

And the simple combination of elements did in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. "Simple passage" indeed. There was a reason Cinderella had to be home in time.

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Originally Posted by rareboy

And as I pointed out in another thread....the return of Gaincarlo, Rolyo, Chance and EnchantedSexKittenWienerslav is what triggers the chain of cosmic events that leads to the quantum singularity on the 21st.

As the Maya count in days, the time that the new day begins is sunrise on 21st Dec 2012 somewhere in Mexico. If anywhere is to be taken as a beginning point, I'd say the island of Cozumel being the most easterly portion of the Yucatan Peninsula, the homeland of the Maya.

It really ought to be a celebration that there a new cycle is being ushered in, rather than the mishmashing of ideas with pseudo apocalyptic predictions of the End of Days new-age-ers.

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Originally Posted by HoodedRat

^
The 2012 Solstice occurs on 21st December at 11:12 AM (GMT/UTC).
That is the exact same moment for everywhere in the world.
Just convert the GMT/UTC time of 11.12 AM to your local time zone, to find the exact timeing of the Solstice for wherever you happen to be on that date.

And of course for the Illuminati conspiracy theorists, these numbers are very powerful.

And yes Star-Warrior, the Mayan calendar that everyone loves quoting actually refers to the end of a 'cycle' not the end of everything - unfortunately the conspiracy theorists like to omit that tiny fact. I liken it to the end of the 'pre-wash' cycle and we're about to start the 'Main Wash' - it's just a shame I won't be around to sit on it when it goes into 'Spin'!

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It's the end of the world for individual people each and everyday, when they die ... supposedly at least 150,000 each day.

Meanwhile, for more than 300,000 newborns per day, the world begins.

That reminds me of something C. S. Lewis said during WWI, when people were bewailing the immense increase in the death rate: "It hasn't changed at all; it's still one per person".

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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you're all wrong. when we blow, we all blow together. it's not going to be one area, then the next..it's gonna be KABLUEEEEEEEEY, all gone. every one goes at the same time. no worries....

Yep. It depends on the planet reaching a certain point in its orbit, not on how it happens to be spinning.

Hey -- maybe that's it! maybe it will stop spinning, and throw us all off!

[I got space suits for sale.]

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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Originally Posted by quasar

And of course for the Illuminati conspiracy theorists, these numbers are very powerful.

And yes Star-Warrior, the Mayan calendar that everyone loves quoting actually refers to the end of a 'cycle' not the end of everything - unfortunately the conspiracy theorists like to omit that tiny fact. I liken it to the end of the 'pre-wash' cycle and we're about to start the 'Main Wash' - it's just a shame I won't be around to sit on it when it goes into 'Spin'!

Superb illustration! Except we may not even notice as much difference as between those two cycles.

The new one doesn't "debunk" anything except misinterpretations. Living Mayans have been trying to tell everyone all along that it's just flipping a giant page in the calendar, not the end of anything:

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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^ There's a fantastic history of non-Natives running around making crap up and saying it's from native lore and then never actually listening to what natives actually do say on .. anything.

My mom gets so mad everytime some horror movie blames stuff on indian burial ground. "Why the hell is it always our people? What there aren't evil dead white people?!"

Because horror movies are all about the "other", which means that whatever the majority finds alien is the boogie-man in the story.

On the flip side of that, the "other" also gets credited with all sorts of things the majority lacks and/or needs; I've read many a story where the native Americans are the source the hero has to go to in order to learn or gain what is needed to achieve victory. Frak, there's even a Star Trek episode where what Wesley Crusher needs to learn to lead humanity along its evolutionary path comes from (IIRC) a bunch of Lakota Sioux.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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I love the way this thread has gone. Personally I don't believe for a second the world's going to blow up. I'm sort of hopeful for a "rapture" type thing where all the "fundamentalist Christians get sucked into heaven or wherever the hell they're going" and the rest of us can go along happily without them bothering us. But again, I doubt it.

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Originally Posted by iwantbig

did you know that roos cant go backwards ?

..LOL...I am JUB's Oracle of course I know that...Starting on Dec 16th things that should be UP will be DOWN...People that are Gay will be Straight and vice versa. That's why I'm telling Ausies to look to the Roos for the First sign..The First wave is coming....

I get more Visions every time I'm on my knees with my Face buried between a Guys Legs while he's Rubbing on my Crystal Ball-Shaved Head...I might have to be on my knees a Few more times this week to get a Clearer vision for Dec 21st....I'm doing it because I care about the Ausies....I care.......

Originally Posted by GiancarloC

Anyways, I just wanted to say fairwell to everyone. This will be my last post on this forum (as I will be departing) and I just want to keep it discreet without making a new thread. Please contact me by email if you'd like.

What are you talking about Madge? Are you leaving Hot Topics for good or do you mean JUB period?

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Originally Posted by goldenmoth

Anyone who thinks the world will end should watch this video

Brilliantly done.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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if the cycle is changing, and they keep their calendar on those monster stone disc things... who rolls the old one away and brings in the new one?

I think this is a serious deficiency in stone calendars, and should be investigated.

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

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I know this is all a bit of a joke and I don't for a second believe on some pre-determined date the world will end. I also find it hilarious watching Doomsday Preppers and see those guys convinced a set scenario event like an EMP will happen in the very near future.

But saying that... I think it's practically inevitable that sooner or later there will be some global catastrophe that will change the Earth and our way of living as we know it. It's not a question of 'if' but a question of 'when'. History has a habit of repeating itself and I think it's very likely there will be another world war at some point. Hopefully it won't be in our lifetimes and hopefully it won't involve nuclear weapons but nobody could rule it out.

Even if there isn't a world war type scenario, there are plenty of non man made scenarios that are inevitable. If mankind survives long enough then an asteroid impact big enough to wipe out all life on the planet such as the one that wiped out the dinosaurs is inevitable, ofcourse we're probably talking every few billion years so it isn't something that's likely to effect us and we probably don't need to worry about a supervolcano eruption plunging half the planet into darkness either but sooner or later it will happen.

If you have an understanding of exponential growth then it won't take very long before the worlds population and energy usage becomes unsustainable. This video explains it better than I can

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Originally Posted by M10000

I have 2doomsday apps that give different times
One says midnight on dec 21st No time zone given

Is either one Mayan?

"Thirty-one* states allow all qualified citizens to carry concealed weapons. In those states, homosexuals should embark on organized efforts to become comfortable with guns, learn to use them safely and carry them. They should set up Pink Pistols task forces, sponsor shooting courses and help homosexuals get licensed to carry. And they should do it in a way that gets as much publicity as possible. "

So, 8 Cumku is the ninth day of the 18th month of the 365 day year, meaning there are 16 days until the end of that particular 365 day period.

As mentioned above 13.0.0.0.0 is 1872000 days from that date 4 Ahau 8 Cumku. So, sixteen days after the start date, we began a new 365 day period beginning with the day called 0 Pop, or more accurately 7 Cib 0 Pop of the current era. If you remove all the 365 day periods you get a left over of (1872000 - 16 - [5128x365]) = 264 days. On the 365 day year, that is the 4th day of the 14th month [(13monthsx20 = 260) + (4 days of the new month, numbered 0, 1, 2, 3)] or the 4th day of the month called Kankin.

This gives us the terminal date of the current cycle called 4 Ahau 3 Kankin, which according to the correlation tables that someone has worked out, falls on 21st December 2012. 4 Ahau will be the same for each 13 baktun block as 1872000 is divisible by 260 without remainder (7200x260=1872000).

Using the dual calendars, and the numbering system, 13.0.0.0.0 4 Ahau 3 Kankin pinpoints a date within 5128+ solar years. This calendrical system is based upon the count of days. However, since the year is longer than 365 days, there is the problem of the accumulation of the year length error. We have sorted our western calendar by using the extra leap day every fourth year or so. The Maya did not adjust their system to account for it.

By the time the Aztec were using a form of meso-american calendar, they didn't utilise the long count, so their calendar was only accurate within an approximately 51.25 year span. This is what the stone calendar disc represents.