Is there a Conspiracy to Get Rid of David Cameron and Radically Alter the Face of UK Politics?

Subsidies are quite complex. If the rail service was run as a fully commercial concern then certain loss-making, but necessary, routes would be
closed. Also, subsidies are needed to ensure investment, which may exceed the contract term with the rail operators. The rail operators come and go,
but the ownership of the rail network is still in public hands.

The rail operators pay the government to run the service, so there is a net positive receipt in most cases.

As to profits. Rail operators take a commercial risk, so profits are a way to incentivise performance. In the great scheme of things the amount of
profit is not excessive in most cases.

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
Clearly Ashcroft has an axe to grind, for not being given a better position in the party after all his donations, this is what happens when you dance
with the devil. I wouldn't think Ashcroft has got the power to get rid of the serving government, just to temporally embarrass the leader for not
dancing to ashcrofts tune

Well look on the positive side .... Cameron apparently cannot be bought??

For (how ever many millions?) Ashcroft donated!!!

Not quite, Ashcroft was offered a job in exchange for his millions, but he considered the job he was offered (in the FO) as offensive to his persona.

Our car industry basically suffered because after the war Germany and Japan were given masses of money to build new factories - whilst our workers had
to work in old and bomb damaged factories that were given precious little investment. Sadly there are n't many left to tell this tale but everything
within in this country, including our infrastructure has been run on a shoestring and bled dry by our government taking out instead of investing in
our industries from the profits they earned, for so long. It was done because our government likes to play still on the top table of the world
powers it occupied in the world when we had an Empire. Its maintaining those at the top in lavish lifestyles whilst keeping the public in semi
poverty that many Brits don't realise how behind Europe we actually are.

Our Embassies are barely used. Many unbelievably luxurious but they no longer vet people wanting to immigrate here - which has cost us dearly, their
help for people with business has declined drastically, I could go on and on.

From my understanding there has been a concerted effort to put the Government there back in the hands of the people. Brits taking care of Brits like
they used to before the days of Thatcher. Privileged Brits knew how to pull their boot straps up and get in the muck with the rest of the people and
help lift each other up. It was a duty and calling to not just help those less fortunate but to empower the less fortunate to be self sustaining.
British people are disenfranchised because there Government and much of it's society has lost that element. I think it's on a come back tour and might
stay this time. I think my own Government (U.S.) subverts British society a great deal and that has to stop.

Whereas Japan and Germany were rebuilt after the war, British industry became farcical due to what became known as the "British disease". You cannot
blame British uncompetitiveness on a lack of investment.

I actually knew two senior HR managers in British Leyland and British Steel. They were HR Directors when I knew them. The Trade Unions killed off
the ability for the economy to be competitive through restrictive practices, frequent strikes and doctrinal stupidity.

While British workers were striking for tea breaks in BL, Japanese workers were refining quality management so their cars actually worked. While
steel workers were striking because they wanted 20% extra, Germans were improving productivity and reducing costs.

Whereas Japan and Germany were rebuilt after the war, British industry became farcical due to what became known as the "British disease". You cannot
blame British uncompetitiveness on a lack of investment.

I actually knew two senior HR managers in British Leyland and British Steel. They were HR Directors when I knew them. The Trade Unions killed off
the ability for the economy to be competitive through restrictive practices, frequent strikes and doctrinal stupidity.

While British workers were striking for tea breaks in BL, Japanese workers were refining quality management so their cars actually worked. While
steel workers were striking because they wanted 20% extra, Germans were improving productivity and reducing costs.

Song of the times...

The Unions gave you a 40 hour week, Annual Holiday pay, the weekend off, legal aid, workers rights etc ...just remember that when the Government are
trying to take it all back..Christ, why do you think people are working 60+ hours a week nowadays.?

Whereas Japan and Germany were rebuilt after the war, British industry became farcical due to what became known as the "British disease". You cannot
blame British uncompetitiveness on a lack of investment.

I actually knew two senior HR managers in British Leyland and British Steel. They were HR Directors when I knew them. The Trade Unions killed off
the ability for the economy to be competitive through restrictive practices, frequent strikes and doctrinal stupidity.

While British workers were striking for tea breaks in BL, Japanese workers were refining quality management so their cars actually worked. While
steel workers were striking because they wanted 20% extra, Germans were improving productivity and reducing costs.

Song of the times...

The Unions gave you a 40 hour week, Annual Holiday pay, the weekend off, legal aid, workers rights etc ...just remember that when the Government are
trying to take it all back..Christ, why do you think people are working 60+ hours a week nowadays.?

Bastards of the union's. Let's spare a thought for St Maggie who suffered so much at the hands of the villainous miner's unions.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
The Unions gave you a 40 hour week, Annual Holiday pay, the weekend off, legal aid, workers rights etc ...just remember that when the Government are
trying to take it all back..Christ, why do you think people are working 60+ hours a week nowadays.?

Oh, I know what trade unions gave and the transformation of workers rights. No doubt. But they also shafted large parts of industry with doctrinal
nonsense. Good industrial relations should not be marred by people who used the trade union movement to impose a view of the world that was
unachievable.

You might to bear this in mind- “The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important
element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power
of our country. We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of.” – Edward
Bernays (“the father of public relations”), Propaganda, 1928 (note that Bernays’ book, Propaganda, begins with the above quote).

I don't know if there's a conspiracy or not, but.........he wants to nationalize energy and transportation? What's he doing, channeling Hugo Chavez?
Those are policies of entirely proven "fail". Why stop there, why not nationalize the grocery stores? The UK will come to more resemble Cuba and
Venezuela. Is that really what any intelligent Brit wants?

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