The true winner of that fight was the one whose friend first showed up with a weapon. Unfortunately, Dan had no friends and Royce only had nutridders. NHB, indeed.

Calm down, it's only ones and zeros.

"Your calm and professional manner of response is really draining all the fun out of this. Can you reply more like Dr. Fagbot or something? Call me some names, mention some sand in my vagina or something of the sort. You can't expect me to come up with reasonable arguments man!" -- MaverickZ

So it has been established that the 3 main domains in MMA are Striking, Wrestling (position control, takedowns), Grappling (submissions). Now would you say it is better to be Very Good in all three or be Great in one and Good in the others.

I'm talking about years of pro training here, not some ammy 3 times a week training.

Yeah, you guys really need to work on your debate-fu. Most of you have been around here long enough to know how to dismantle a BJJ nutrider argument by now.

I am pretty disappointed.

You have manipulated the fishing line just right for the troll bait to catch my eye.

Originally Posted by Ke?poFist

Psh, this is bullshit. The only reason BJJ still isn't the dominant art is because of the rules.

With all these damned stand-ups, and short rounds, a BJJ fighter can never really get cooking with his gameplan, and the biggest tragedy is that fighters now believe that to be a "complete" fighter, they need more than Jiu-Jitsu. In reality, to win in MMA you need more, because the rules keep forcing you to not use your Jiu-Jitsu, and instead try to do more "exciting" stuff that can earn you quick points or a knockout for the crowd.

"There is no rules, there is only jiu jitsu." *gong sound*

In the old days a Jiu-Jitsu fighter could tie his opponent up for as long as he needed on the ground, until they either tired, or presented an opening to be submitted. Now the ref just puts it back on their feet, so the opponent knows if he just lays there like a rug instead of trying to escape, he can get stood back up.

Oh yeah, since the jiu jitsu guy who bitches about time limits is never seen laying there like a rug.

Saying Jiu-Jitsu isn't a complete fighting system for MMA, is like saying that a crock pot isn't a complete form of cooking in a chef's competition, because the rules of the cooking show make you have to have your meal prepared in under 15 minutes. There's no time to marinade let alone, slow roast, so of course everyone's gonna be stir-frying!

Show me a successful cooking show where the camera focuses on a slow-cooking crock pot for several hours.