In this case the Democrats (not the one accused of abuse, but the other ones) seem to have taken such allegations much more seriously than the Republicans (the ones who elected him and let him stay in his adult day care situation), even though the same Republicans wanted to impeach the other Clinton over such stuff.

This is at times the ihatetrump forum. No reason to dredge up any of the old allegations against trump other than to express such and to add another stanza to the whine about how the American masses who elected him are idiots and inferior to sober progressives, presumably the ones who didn't think abuse, harassment, and even rape allegations against their president were worth discussing.

There's irony all around. I'll maintain my conjecture that some aren't over the election yet.

Not so bro. I was a hold-my-nose supporter of Obama and Clinton for 16 years, though more critical of Clinton who substantially lowered the bar for presidents. You may find an acerbic post or two on Clinton from 20 years ago but I always liked Barack, just not his policies. Get your facts straight here. My mod lib friends are sometimes amazing. This was the ihatebush forum for eight years. Now, ihatetrump. Deal with it.

Didn't vote for the guy. Hope he succeeds in many policy areas. Like his scotus appointment and rollback of many of the possibly illegal Obama rules, etc.

I should add that I'm not all that invested in these discussions but it's fair to point out the nonsense when it comes here. If Hil were prez I'd follow the same practice as for Obama although I have little respect for her, more for Obama.

To spell it out: the nonsense here is in interjecting, gratuitously, Trump in the scleazy scandal concerning the mogul Hil and Barack have yet to criticize. Trump does enough otherwise that ought to get my mod/lib friends' attention.

To read the Susan Estrich book on Hillary from about 2004. I may share my free copy with him with a pledge to return it before Chistmas. It should be in the Windr Lyberry.

About to post a scathing blog about the current face of The Alabama SBC, Rick Burgess. He talked about the Nick Saban take this morning on NAAcp and the Kaeperstein fallout. Burgess will be the keynote speaker for the BAMA SBC In Huntsville Nov 14. Gonna bring Danny Ford and the Clemson 1981 Natty into the chat and the facebook wall of Burgess alma mater JSU, from where my Grandfather graduated.

Burgess is hardwired to the Cliff Simms network now in the White House, Rick had a confrontation with Russ Moore on air spring of last year, and interviewed Donald Trump on air Monday before the Strange Judge Moore election. Best I remember Burgess did not bring up the Sonsabithches utterance of Trump in Huntsville just three days before.

Trump has his own sexual abuse allegations to worry about. 12 of them, at this point.

William Thornton wrote:To spell it out: the nonsense here is in interjecting, gratuitously, Trump in the scleazy scandal concerning the mogul Hil and Barack have yet to criticize.

Mentioning Hil and Barack is diversion. The failure to apply the same standard to Trump that you applied to Bill Clinton renders such claims laughable and hypocritical. Trump and Weinstein are two peas in a pod.

William Thornton wrote:To spell it out: the nonsense here is in interjecting, gratuitously, Trump in the scleazy scandal concerning the mogul Hil and Barack have yet to criticize.

Sandy wrote:Trump has his own sexual abuse allegations to worry about. 12 of them, at this point.

Mentioning Hil and Barack is diversion. The failure to apply the same standard to Trump that you applied to Bill Clinton renders such claims laughable and hypocritical. Trump and Weinstein are two peas in a pod.

Baloney cheese! Not so. Not even close. Get your cotton pickin' facts straight, Sandy. Clinton and Weinstein are two peas of the same pod.

What I see in this is the unlimited corrupting power of money in American politics. Trump has it so we can't criticize him. Weinstein spread his around, so he gets immunity from political critics. Mitch is in the pocket of drug companies, so he can't really address the opioid crisis sweeping the hills of KY. The Koch's and Sorros have their fully owned congress members. Until we address the money issues, this will continue. Didn't Jesus have something to say about the "love of money?"

"God will never be less than He is and does not need to be more" (John Koessler)

William Thornton wrote:To spell it out: the nonsense here is in interjecting, gratuitously, Trump in the scleazy scandal concerning the mogul Hil and Barack have yet to criticize.

Sandy wrote:Trump has his own sexual abuse allegations to worry about. 12 of them, at this point.

Mentioning Hil and Barack is diversion. The failure to apply the same standard to Trump that you applied to Bill Clinton renders such claims laughable and hypocritical. Trump and Weinstein are two peas in a pod.

Baloney cheese! Not so. Not even close. Get your cotton pickin' facts straight, Sandy. Clinton and Weinstein are two peas of the same pod.

Dave Roberts wrote:What I see in this is the unlimited corrupting power of money in American politics. Trump has it so we can't criticize him. Weinstein spread his around, so he gets immunity from political critics. Mitch is in the pocket of drug companies, so he can't really address the opioid crisis sweeping the hills of KY. The Koch's and Sorros have their fully owned congress members. Until we address the money issues, this will continue. Didn't Jesus have something to say about the "love of money?"

Money, Sex, Power all corrupt.

Informed by Data.Driven by the SPIRIT and JESUS’s Example.Promoting the Kingdom of GOD on Earth.

Weinstein is a creep and probably did most of the things he's been accused of. No witnesses (corroboration) are available to the actions mentioned (or at least most of them). The much larger picture, as George Clooney mentioned, is that the selling/buying of bodies was the way Hollywood operated back in the day and still operates. Virtually all of the women crawling out of the woodwork from long years ago, as well as recently, knew this but, directly or indirectly, played the game, just part of the oldest profession. Bubba Clinton and Cosby were artists, every bit as good (bad) as Weinstein.

Well, William's post only mentioned Hillary Clinton, and errantly pointed out that she's been silent. I'll point out that he's not listening. So yeah, sure, to be fair, three peas in a pod, Trump, Weinstein and Bill Clinton.

Jim wrote:Weinstein is a creep and probably did most of the things he's been accused of. No witnesses (corroboration) are available to the actions mentioned (or at least most of them). The much larger picture, as George Clooney mentioned, is that the selling/buying of bodies was the way Hollywood operated back in the day and still operates. Virtually all of the women crawling out of the woodwork from long years ago, as well as recently, knew this but, directly or indirectly, played the game, just part of the oldest profession. Bubba Clinton and Cosby were artists, every bit as good (bad) as Weinstein.

Occasionally you are spot on. I don't see anything to object to in that assessment, even though you didn't mention Trump.

I used to think folks who didn't want their daughters to grow up to be actors were old fogeys.

William Thornton wrote:There's irony all around. I'll maintain my conjecture that some aren't over the election yet.

Honestly William? The country elected a man who supports right wing nationalism, near fascism, racism, xenophobia, etc. We will be darn lucky if the country gets over this election. This isn't like previous elections. This isn't like the usual GOP versus the DNC. This man is so far out of the norm that members of his own party are wanting him out of the White House. Trump isn't a Republican. He is a man who dreams of being dictator of his own banana republic.

There is nothing ironic about not being over this election. The situation we are in is far too frightening for it to be irony.