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UNCONFIRMED MINUTES

JULY 22-25, 2008

OMNI WILLIAM PENN

PITTSBURGH, PENNSYLVANIA

These minutes are not final until confirmed by the Task Group in writing or by vote at asubsequent meeting. Information herein does not constitute a communication orrecommendation from the Task Group and shall not be considered as such by anyagency.

TUESDAY, JULY 22, 2008–

FRIDAY, JULY 25, 2008

1.0

ATTENDANCE

User Members Present (39)

Name

Company

Hal Abel

Raytheon

Bob Cashman

Parker Aerospace

Jim Chan

Honeywell Aerospace

Terry Curtland

Ball Aerospace & Technologies

Francois Dagnias

SAFRAN Group

Karyn Deming

Goodrich Corporation

Thierry Fabre

Airbus

Aleck Featherston

Bell Helicopter

Warren Ferree

Hill AFB

John Ferguson

Airbus

Sylvia Franklin

The Boeing Company

Gary Gowens

United Space Alliance

Ian Kitson

BAE Systems

Bob Koukol

Honeywell Aerospace

-Chairperson

Serge Labbe

Heroux-Devtek

Nathalie Le Pottier

Eurocopter

Susan Lewis

Lockheed Martin Corp

Cecil Lykins

Rolls-Royce Corporation

Mark Malcom

Hill AFB

Veronique Marcel

Messier-Bugatti

Bruce Melville

Textron

Donald Missel

Lockheed Martin Corp

Robert Nixon Jr

Vought

Jim O’Shea

GE Aviation

Eric Oswald

Raytheon

Garry Pickett

United Technologies

Corporation

Donald Robertson

Hawker Beechcraft Corporation

Josefa Rodriquez

EADS-MTAD

Jerry Satchwell

Rolls-Royce plc

-Vice Chairperson

Roger Sellers

Spirit AeroSystems

Jean Simpson

The Boeing Company

Cecil Slach

Rockwell Collins, Inc

Keithlyn Slack

United Space Alliance

Paul Slater

Rockwell Collins, Inc.

Stefania Sorrentino

Alenia Aeronautica

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Brendan Sturgeon

Bombardier Aerospace

Mike Stolze

Northrop Grumman Integrated Systems

Brad Wall

Rolls-Royce Corp

Tom Wolf

GoodrichCorporation

Other Participants/Members (92)

Name

Company

Leandro Aparicio

Advanced Coating Tech

James Andrus

TurboCombustor Technology

Daniel Backus

Har-Conn Chrome

Casey Backus

Har-Conn Chrome

Jeffrey Ballantyne

US Chrome Corp of Connecticut

Sam Bell

Metal Surfaces Inc

Michael Brewer

Spirit AeroSystems

Larry Carlson

PPI Aerospace Acquisition LLC

John Carpenter

US Chrome Corp of Connecticut

Ramon Castillo

Unison Engine Components

Steven Chang

Aviabank Mfg. Inc.

Stephane Chaumeil

Galion

Jerry Colombo

Precise Machining & Mfg

Steve Crest

Stabile Plating Co Inc

Matthew Crill

ATK Aerospace Structures

Jim Cummings

Metal Finishing Company

Bryan Curtman

Ozark Mountain Tech

Robert Custer

AAA Plating & Inspection Inc.

David Denny

Spirit Aerospace

Bob Denton

B-D Industries Inc

Jim Denton

B-D Industries Inc

Rachel DeSimone

American Tinning & Galvanizing

Leonard Diamond

Symmetry Jet Inc

Hocine Djellab

Verdun Anodizing

Chris Drenyanko

Hytek Finishes

Walter Echols

Aero Metal Finishing

Richard Edwards

United Space Alliance

John Eischon

Dixie Plating

Ben Flores

Applied Aerospace Structures Co.

Ron Franklin

ChemResearch Co Inc

Steve Ganska

Precise Machining & Mfg

Alan Gilbert

Cessna Aircraft Co,

Dave Gray

Mitchell Labs

Troy Grim

Spirit Aerospace

Meghan Gustafson

Honeywell

MikeGuthmiller

Applied Aerospace Structured

Gerald Harvey

Triumph Group

Ballard Hindreane

Advanced Coating Tech

Eric Jacklin

F.M. Callahan & Son

David Jones

Nex-Tech Processing

Brice Jones

Alcoa Fastening Systems

Jeff Jones

Alloy Processing

Kazahire Kejima

Mitsabishi Heavy Industries

Richard Kline

XRI Testing

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Larry Kocurek

Parker Hannifin

Keven Kudelka

Westfield Electroplating

Eric LeFort

Sonaca S.A.

John Lopez Sr

E.M.E. Inc.

Rosa Martin

Superior Plating

Angelina Mendoza

Goodrich

David Michaud

Fountain Plating

Bill Miller

Hohman Plating

Masahisa Mimamide

Mitsabishi Heavy Industries

Nick Miscione

L-3 MAS Canada

Abdillah Mohamed

Lord Corporation

Michelleni Moraga

Goodrich Aerostructures

Nancy Morisset

Ploy-Metal Finishing

Guido Nasi

Avio SpA

Dinh Ngo

GKN Aerospace

Michael Noett

Magnetic Inspection Laboratory

Hideyoshi Okubo

Mitsabishi Heavy Industries

Larry Olsen

Valley Metals

Joyce Paugh

Middle River Aircraft

Nick Peters

Nu-Pro Surface Treatments

Kirk Pipkin

Weatherford Aerospace Inc.

William Rae

Cav Aerospace Ltd.

Mike Reath

US Chrome Corp of Ohio

Chris Reilly

Hamilton Sundstrand

Bill Rennick

PPI Aerospace Acquisition

Jim Ringer

Tech Met

Michel Robinette

Tecnickrome Aeronautique Inc.

Robert Rodenberg

Spec Plating

Greg Santo

US Chrome Corp of Ohio

Dave Serbousek

Olympic Scientific Inc.

Jim Schmitt

Lord Corporation

Victor Schonberger

Israel Aerospace Inc

Scott Singer

IFT

Greg Smotherman Jr

Ozark Mountain Tech

Voyer Sotephanie

Alcoa Fixahons Simmonds

Vitorio Stana

Avcorp Industries

Steve Stone

Saporito Finishing

Gigi Streeter

Barnes Aerospace Lansing

Yoshiomi Sukesanda

Asahi Kinzoku Kogyo Co Ltd

Debbie Sykes

Hixson Metal Finishing

John Tamashaitis

Kamatics Corporation

Patrick Touzet

Hispano-Suiza (SAFRAN Group)

Jay Tuason

GSC Foundries

Jim Tuminello

Tech Met

Akshay Waghray

Honeywell

Gerald Wahlin

AAA Plating & Inspection Inc

Howard Whyte

Sermatech Intenational

Peter Wong

Goodrich Aerostructures

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PRI Staff (2):

Michael Graham

Bill Dumas

JULY 22-23, 2008 (PRIME ONLY MEETING)

1.0

INTRODUCTION AND WELCOME BY CHAIRMAN BOB KOUKOL

The meeting was called to order by Chairperson, Bob Koukol (Honeywell Aerospace). Aquorum was established with the user members identified above. (A minimum of threePrime Task Group Members is required to establish quorum).

2.0

AUDITOR TRAINING

Auditors attending 2008 training indicated that training using a combination of scenariosand topic lecture/ discussions worked well for the presentations and review of checklistrequirements. Future training plans to use the same format.

4.0

AUDIT DURATION,S-FRM-16 SUB-TEAM REPORT-OUT

The sub-team proposed a revision to the current S-FRM-16 to address the coreprocesses currently defined in the scope of CP audit. During the meeting furtherclarification of duration for satellite audits was added to the proposed form revision.

Mike Stoltze presented an evaluation of audit data from 2007 using new failure criteria.Impact of new criteria is primarily with audits of less than 3 days. Data continues to betracked and will be reviewed

again during the October 2008 Meeting.

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TABLE 1 PROPOSAL

Jerry Satchwell presented the proposed new Table 1. Specific specification clarificationswill also be added as identified. The new format will define only “default” requirementsfor periodic testing when the governing consensus specification imposes a periodic testbut does not define specific elements/ details for the test. The future Table 1 willaddress testing topics covered by Appendix B of AC7108 and establishes the defaultson the basis of the type of test and not the specification. This proposed revision to thecontent of Table 1 was accepted by the Task Group. The committee was expanded tocomplete the clarification of parameters.

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8.0

GRIT BLAST SUB-TEAM PROPOSAL

Presented byJim Chan.

The Grit Blast Sub-team presented their proposal forCompliance Assessment Guidance for section 5.7 of AC7108 and 4.6 of AC 7108/2 forwhen the review of grit blast operations needs to be included in the Chemical Processesaudit process.

9.0

DELEGATION

OVERSIGHT

New delegation oversight procedure was reviewed. Staff engineers method fordocumentation of oversight review was reviewed with the Task Group and generalguideline for this review process were reviewed for the benefit of newer members of theTask Group. The Task Group Primes were reminded of the Staff Engineer reviewguidelines posted in eAuditNet under Public Documents, Chemical Processing.

ACTION ITEM:Delegation oversight will be monitored to ensure sufficient Task GroupPrime participation in the delegation review process. Participation and concurrence willbe reviewed at the October Meeting to determine if further action is needed to ensurecompliance with the requirements.

10.0

TG RESOLUTION ISSUES

Audit 125062, Advisory 1333-

Recommendation for allowing present audit to continue processingand current accreditation to remain in place, Advisory to be raised to Level 2, closure of advisorywith resolution of findings. VCA is required to be performed with closure of all current findings.Staff Engineer to notify all primes with move of audit to TG review.Motion

accepted by Primemembers of the Task Group.

Audit 124625-

Prime members of the Task Group reviewed this audit and associatedAdvisory 1335 for consideration of withdrawalof current accreditation.Motion

towithdraw accreditation accepted by Task Group.

Audit 124656

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Supplier appealed against their merit status. The Prime members of theTask Group reviewed the issues and voted to uphold the appeal and award merit.

Audit 121289

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The Prime members of the Task Group voted unanimously

to extend theaccreditation period of the etch audit to align with the linked NDT audit.

Audit 128773

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The Prime members of the Task Group voted unanimously to submit thisetch audit for

failure ballot with withdrawal of accreditation due to failure of the linkedNDT audit.

The Task Group approved auditor John Tattersall to audit the full scope of the AC7108/2checklist subject to a successful training audit for macro etch (and blue etch anodize-

optional).

ACTION ITEM:

Nigel Cook to complete training of Mr. Tattersall on MacrostructureEtching and provide evidence of training to Julie Rubright and Jennifer Eckels.

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REVIEW OF FAILED AUDIT

A procedure now sets the requirement that in

the event of a failed audit for onecommodity, all commodities with a current accreditation for the supplier need to reviewwhether their accreditation should be withdrawn.

ACTION ITEM: With a failed audit for another commodity, Staff Engineer will now

submitemail ballot to TG for consideration for withdrawal of current CP accreditation. Noresponse to ballot to be considered as “NO withdrawal or suspensions of CPaccreditation required.”

Task Group also requests a change to NOP 006 for removal of item 5.8.3a or revision torecommended wordsas captured by M. Graham. Also consideration shall be given forwithdrawal of accreditation for the effected special processes.

ACTION ITEM:If “New Prime Tutorial” is still available, provide to new primes forguidelines for Task Group activities, for example-

for review of audit packages onsubmittal for Task Group review.

NUCAP DEVIATION PRESENTATION

-A NUCAP Management Council representativerequested the Chemical Processing Task Group to review a presentation during thismeeting regarding NUCAP deviation requests. The information was reviewed by theTask Group. The Task Group requests that any future presentation requests be providedat least two weeks prior to the meeting where the review is being requested. This willallow sufficient time for the Task Group leadership to review any issues prior topresenting to the Task Group. The Task Group also requests that a system bedeveloped and available to all primes summarizing the current status of NUCAPdeviation requests for each Task Group to preclude redundant activities.

JULY 24-25 (OPEN MEETING)

11.0

WELCOME, OPENING COMMENTS AND INTRODUCTION OF ATTENDEES

Quorum was established.

11.1

CP SAT GOALS

Suppliers were reminded of the CP SAT meeting scheduled

for 4:00PM Thursday July24th.

11.2

APPROVAL OF FEBRUARY MEETING MINUTES

Minutes of the February 2008 meeting were reviewed and approved with no correctionsor objections.

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11.3

AQS LIASON

Ian Kitson was nominated to replace Don Missel as CP Task Group liaison. Motionaccepted. MOU with AQS was accepted and signed by the Task Group. ReviewedHeat Treat recommendation-

if 2-

nonsustaining findings are documented in an audit, aQuality System finding should also be documented-

no action taken on this

recommendation.

11.4

TASK GROUP VOTING MEMBERS

The following meet requirements to become Task Group Voting Member and were votedand approved by current voting members:

PRIME VOTING MEMBERS;

Robert Nixon-

Vought Aircraft Industries, Inc. (from Alternate Voting Member)

Bob Cashman-

Parker Aerospace

Jean M. Simpson-

The Boeing Company

Hal Abel-

Raytheon RMS

Eric Oswald-

Raytheon IDS

Tom Wolf-

Goodrich Corporation

Paul Slater-

Rockwell Collins (Alternate Voting Member)

Susan Lewis-

Lockheed Martin

Josefa Rodriguez-

EADS-

CASA

Keithlyn Slack-

United Space Alliance

Gary Gowens-

United Space Alliance (Alternate Voting Member)

SUPPLIER VOTING MEMBERS:

Greg Smotherman Jr-

Ozark Mountain Technologies, Inc (Alternate Voting Member)

Bryan Curtman-

Ozark Mountain Technologies, Inc.

John Carpenter-

U.S. Chrome Corporation

12.0

SUB-TEAM REPORT-OUT

12.1

PLANNING AND OPERATIONS

Report-out by Bob Koukol. These topics can be reviewed in the Planning and OperationsMinutes.

12.2

NMC

Jerry Wahlin reported on Activities and initiatives. These topics can be reviewed in theNMC Minutes.

12.3

SSC

Reported by Dave Michaud. These topics can be reviewed in SSC Minutes.

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12.4

SURFACE CLEANING AND PAINT TESTINGSUB-TEAM

The intent of this sub-team was to providea definition should be performed and whenadhesion and thickness testing is required for paint processes. The Task group hasrequested the CP-SAT to help define when water break inspection cannot be used forcleanliness verification . The sub-team has resolved that adhesion and thicknessinspections should not be required as a default by the Task Group if not specificallydefined by the customer or specification The supplier needs to clarify whether or notthese tests are required with their customer.

12.5

CP ACTION ITEMS

Bob Koukol reviewed the action items. Rail items to be updated to reflect current status.During the review it was identified that all Raise the Bar issues should be submitted toNigel Cook as the central focal point for this topic.

ACTION ITEM: Need identification of Spec format for all Prime specific specifications.Send out to all primes “What is specifically needed and Why this information is needed”for future eAuditNet enhancements.

PRI Staff (Graham) to report out on any issues during the July 2009Meeting.

12.7

REVIEW OF TABLE 1 PROPOSAL

Proposed new Table1 format was reviewed. The new format indicated by Item 5.1 ofthese minutes was accepted for the “go forward” plan to complete the proposal forinclusion of all tests defined in Appendix B of AC 7108. Additional concern to beaddressed is if this document should be attached to the AC7108 checklist as anappendix of as a separate document.

1. Staff to post these metric on eAuditNet. 2. Develop a method toallow auditors to input on concern, for example with checklist. 3. Evaluatemethod forStaff response to Supplier Feedback comments and a method to identify when this isrequested.

13.2

AUDITOR INTERVIEW TEAM

Team activities were reviewed and team members were reminded that if they are notavailable for a scheduled interview they need to find a replacement for their position,prime for a prime, etc. Ian Kitson and Jerry Satchwell were added to the current team ofTom Wolf, Jim Cummings, Gerald Harvey, Hal Abel, Jim Chan, Robert Nixon and RogerSellers.

ACTION ITEM: Send email to team members as a reminder of necessary actions for thisteam.

14.0

RAISE THE BAR

Jerry Wahlin reported that a new team is looking at RTB issues. It has been suggestedthat an additional question be added to the Supplier Feedback form, “Is a findingdocumented that is above and beyond specification requirements?”

15.0

STEERING COMMITTEE

Report-out by Karyn Deming.

16.0

RESOLUTION OF BALLOT

16.1

FIRST PASS REVIEW OF AC 7108/2

First pass review was performed on AC 7108/2 to update this document

for consistencyto the core document AC 7108 and to include EC designation and comments.

16.2

VAC CAD CHECKLIST

Pilot audit for Vac Cad was performed May 8.

Based on the results of this Pilot audit,the originally documented checklist was revised. This checklist was significantlyshortened from the original with the clarification that this will not be a stand alone auditand AC7108 will be in the scope of any audit with Vac Cad in its scope. AC 7108/7 VacCad checklist to be balloted to the Task Group following the July Meeting.

16.3

AUDIT HANDBOOK

An overview of the revised Audit Handbook was presented to the open session,prepared by Nigel Cook. This Handbook to be sent for TG ballot following the Julymeeting.

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PROPOSED REVISION OF AC 7108

Two revisions were proposed for a Rev. D of AC 7108 to address immediate concerns.

1.

Clarification and definition for the Test Matrix. Checklist items to be revised or to addfurther clarification of requirements-

2.4 and 4.1.1.

2.

Change set point

for thermal equipment of Sections 5.4 and 5.5 from 200F to 250F.

ACTION ITEM:Rev D to be balloted for these two concerns following the July meeting.

The committee meets twotimes per year, spring and fall, looking for new technical input to specificationrequirements for AMS specifications, specs are on a 5 years review cycle.

As anexample AMS 2700 is currently under review to the Aerospace Council.

Bob agreed toperform a liaison role between the CPTG and this committee.

John Carpenter is amember of ASTM Committee G and performs a similar role for that committee.

Theyalso meet two times per year and are also looking for more user input.

Anyoneinterested in participating in these activities should contact Bob Koukol(bob.koukol@honeywell.com) or John Carpenter (j_carpenter@uschrome.com).

18.0

NTGOP-001 APPENDIX 8

The Task Group Operating Procedure was reviewed to indicate necessary revisions toalign with other recent procedural requirements for Merit, Failure and Delegation. ThisAppendix is to be balloted to the Task Group following the July meeting.

19.0

DEVELOP SUPPLIER TRAINING STRATEGY FOR 2008/2009

Mr. Sukesada recommended general topics for consideration at the Training sessionscheduled for Japan 2008. Mr. Sukesada identified that most suppliers are experiencedwith the Nadcap process and are looking for more technical training to address specificchecklist requirements. Suggested topics include: Top findings with examples, RootCause examples that are specific to CP, overview of AMS 2750, Appendix A through F.Mr. Sukesada will provide more specific topics prior to the training session but it isrecognized that topics already\y recommended will more than fill available trainingperiod. Mr. Sukesada will act as translator for this session. Task Group membersplanning to addend this training session: Bob Koukol, Jerry Satchwell, Hal Abel, CindiRoth, Ian Kitson and Eric Oswald.

ACTION ITEM:

Mr. Sukesada to provide specific training topics to PRI by 8/8/08.

ACTION ITEM:

CP SAT to modify training presentation based on input.

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CP-SAT REPORT-OUT

Report-out by Bob Custer. Consideration of topics for training for the October meetingin Japan and February 2009 Meeting were reviewed. Recommended topics include:Replacement test/ Test Failures, CP specific RCCA examples, Appendix A and top 5Findings.

21.0

REVIEW OF NEW MERIT CRITERIA

Bob Koukol reviewed the new Merit Criteria. Concern with the new criteria is with“Escapes”. Task group is requesting further definition for who is considered to be the“Customer” from the definition for escape. Task Group is concerned that, from page 2,bullets 2 and 3. Bullet 2-

expectation for this item is not understood and Bullet 3-

disagree with this item, Task Group expects supplier to resolve purchase order/ planningissues prior to release for processing.

ACTION ITEM: TG to send comments on Escape definition to John Barrett forclarification.

22.0

PRELIMINARY AGENDA SET FOR OCTOBER 2008 MEETING

ACTION ITEM:SE to

send out email requesting possible topics for October meeting.

23.0

ADJOURNMENT

Meeting wasadjourned without objection.

Minutes prepared by:

Bill Dumasbilldumas@sae.org

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Are procedural/form changes required based on changes/actions approved during thismeeting? (select one)