Peyton became “very emotional” in Saturday night team meeting

Posted by Mike Florio on February 7, 2016, 11:18 AM EST

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I’d expected the endless hours of pre-Super Bowl programming to at some point consist of a report that Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning told teammates on Saturday night that he intends to retire after the game. He apparently sent that message without using those words.

Sal Paolantonio of ESPN reports that Manning became “very emotional” during the Saturday night session with players and coaches.

“Peyton told a few jokes to lighten the mood, but then he got very emotional,” team president Joe Ellis told Paolantonio. “And so did DeMarcus [Ware]. The room was silent. It was a very emotional gathering.”

According to Paolantonio, an unnamed source said that Manning didn’t state that he’ll retire after Super Bowl 50. The source told Paolantonio that Peyton didn’t need to.

It feels like the planets are lining up for Peyton Manning to finish a task that seemed unthinkable only five weeks ago. If it happens, I won’t be one of the many saying, “We should have seen it coming.”

Of course he became emotional so would you if you were about to be humiliated in front of 200 million people once again.

learysdisciples says:Feb 7, 2016 11:26 AM

“Would rather say Discount Double Check”.

corkspop says:Feb 7, 2016 11:29 AM

Emotional because if his team wins, he can retire “on top”. If they lose, he’ll feel compelled to strap ’em on one more season and the body is aching. Sorry. You’ll have to give it another go next year.

Can you spell B-L-O-W-O-U-T Pressure up the middle! on Manning will render him AFRAID- Luke Kuechley will get at least one interception-
The Broncos already won their Superbowl against the Patriots- It will be a let down – as it is with most teams after they beat New England-

Don’t act like it wouldn’t be cool to see Peyton go out with a victory

senatorblutarsky says:Feb 7, 2016 11:42 AM

rutchaser says:
Feb 7, 2016 11:36 AM

Anyone who dislikes Manning has issues with themselves.

Bengals fan
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Anyone who dislikes manning is astute and sees what a phony he really is. He’s a coward who is willing to throw his own wife under the bus in an effort to not besmirch his records. The only trouble is that the phony got caught.

I really don’t know why so many people have to berate this man. I want to see him have a very good game, if not a great game. That is my hope for him. Why can’t we want a happy ending instead of a sad one? I just don’t get people sometimes, I really don’t. The negativity is so bad for everyone, don’t you know that?

This game is going to be such a butt – whooping that by half-time, Peyton, and the rest of America will wish that the Patriots were there!
Does anyone realize that Peyton can’t throw anymore?
Carolina 34
Denver 10

Manning probably would have been a great player even if he had not spent his entire career on PEDs and playing for the two biggest cheating organizations in professional football. You have his years in Indy with the piped in crowd noise, tinkering with dome temperatures, deflating their own and opponents footballs, Dungy and Polian insisting on rule changes every season to help Peyton and their downy soft WRs, and then Peyton ends his career in the salary cap cheating and PEDs central location of Denver.

Again, Peyton probably would have been a great player without the PEDs and the cheating organizations he played for. Still, it is staggering that given his lengthy history of cheating and the cheating of his teams, he may end his career with only one Super Bowl win and a below .500 playoff record.

If he were playing for an NFC team, it’d be easy for me to root for him. But I’ve hated the Broncos since Shannon Sharpe did his infamous call to the POTUS during a Bronco rout of the Patriots. Since then my hatred for the Broncos has only grown stronger.

So while, I personally like and respect Peyton Manning and wish him well, and hope to see him in the booth somewhere, I can’t root for the Broncos. I just hope that when it ends tonight, however it ends, Peyton can be content and happy with what he has done and comfortable with walking away.

Go Panthers!

jvw1982 says:Feb 7, 2016 11:55 AM

This game is all about the Denver Defense, if they can slow and frustrate the Panthers and get a couple of turnovers and keep the score low, they have a chance, just like they did against the Pats, if they can’t it will be a cake walk and dabbing will begin before halftime….

youknowiknowitall says:Feb 7, 2016 11:57 AM

Carolina is far and away the better team, but when NFL HQ / ESPN and Vegas want DEN to win, bank on it.

genericnflfan says:Feb 7, 2016 11:57 AM

3rd best QB of all time. not bad

genericnflfan says:Feb 7, 2016 12:00 PM

ReligionIsForIdiots
Feb 7, 2016, 11:32 AM EST
Greatest of all-time. No debate whatsoever. Leader in every passing category. Better record against the cheats in the post-season.

#NoCheatingNeeded

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manning will forever have the HGH attached to his name. he’s like armstrong, bonds, a-rod. it isn’t going away. Colts fans will be defending their teams legacy for the rest of time.

shame too. 18 was always “such a good guy”

youknowiknowitall says:Feb 7, 2016 12:00 PM

Why can’t we want a happy ending instead of a sad one? I just don’t get people sometimes, I really don’t. The negativity is so bad for everyone, don’t you know that?
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I guess it’s because Peyton is a lying cheater.

NFL is fixed! Manning goes out on top just as Ray Lewis. Enough said! Manning is a class act and legend!!!!!

tonebones says:Feb 7, 2016 12:09 PM

I feel fortunate to have witnessed this guy’s career. From the kid who was ranked as the top high school prospect coming out, to the player who’s shattered almost all NFL passing records. Peyton has exceeded all expectations, and the expectations were extremely high. What makes it more gratifying is that I also remember Archie Manning coming out of Ole Miss and being stuck for almost his entire career on a horrendous Saints team. It doesn’t surprise me that NFL ratings have skyrocketed during Peyton’s career. He had as much to do with it as anybody. What a class act this man is.

celticsforever says:Feb 7, 2016 12:11 PM

The Marcel Dionne of football. Look him up people. Educate yourselves.

If he loses this game, especially if he plays poorly like he did 2 years ago, he’ll have a 1-3 record in Super Bowls and all those one and outs. It won’t look good for those who want to say he’s not just *a* great quarterback but the greatest ever to have to explain how he wet himself in the postseason so many times.

I wish people would stop saying Peyton is the greatest of all time, its beyond comical when compared to Montana, Brady Bradshaw, & Aikman.
Peyton even has a family member with more championship rings.
Over and over he has failed in the postseason and will again today.

Tb12 record against Peyton in playoffs 4-3. Overall against Peyton 11-6. Tb12 22-9 in playoffs with 4 rings. Manning 13-13 with 1 ring. Being the goat is not even up for discussion. It’s like saying a rod is better than jeter because he has more stats. Stats are for losers and in the words of herm Edwards “you play to win the game”

Peyton’s record shows how good he was at dragging half-ass defenses into the playoffs.

If he were finishing his career against any team except Carolina I’d cheer for him all the way. But as it stands, my Panthers will go into the record books as the team who sent him on his way with another loss. Ah well.

I hope he chooses coaching over broadcasting. He’d be awesome at either one.

solo681 says:Feb 7, 2016 12:43 PM

Sorry Peyton, we cannot root for you with those blatant denials of using the HGH that was sent to your home.

nhpats says:
Feb 7, 2016 12:24 PM
Win or lose Peyton will continue to hold the record for 1-and-dones at 9. That record will unlikely ever be broken.
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So, you’re saying quarterbacks win and lose all by themselves. Got it.
That would make Bradshaw > Brady. I’m sure Steeler fans would appreciate you being consistent in your logic when you debate them.

When you look at Peyton’s playoff losses, look at how many times his team had the lead the last time he touched the ball. You can hate him if you want (I don’t), but don’t call him a playoff choker. That’s just bogus.

really don’t know why so many people have to berate this man. I want to see him have a very good game, if not a great game. That is my hope for him. Why can’t we want a happy ending instead of a sad one?
…that comment alone shouts what has happened to this country in this era of political correctness…it’s a freaking football game and happy endings and/or sad endings have nothing to do with the game itself…get a life!

Oh no, you don’t get off that easy, throw that whole crappy Chicago Bears team under the bus, if you are going to do that, but don’t just blame Grossman. Defense should’ve stopped Peyton, right? Wonderful, Mr. Great himself, Urlacher, right?

If Manning retires, none of the career records he has set are safe. He’s played for 3 years more than Brady. If Brady has 3 more good years all the records are in jeopardy and A 4th year would probably guarantee they will be passed.

Broncos’ defense will TeaBag Cam just like they did to Tom Brady? At least you can expect Bronco’s pass-rush to tickle Cam Newton until he fumbles… “We were’s just sitting with our butts tight…” said the he from Carolina about his football team scoring a Big Duck Egg on the second half against the Seattle Seahawks. “Swoon” said Rivera. Would Cam Newton blabber the same thing after the Super Bowl 50? Besides It was Atlanta Falcons that handed Carolina Panthers the big Goose Egg… Expect more of the same…

spinoza3 says:
Feb 7, 2016 1:29 PM
Broncos’ defense will TeaBag Cam just like they did to Tom Brady? At least you can expect Bronco’s pass-rush to tickle Cam Newton until he fumbles… “We were’s just sitting with our butts tight…” said the he from Carolina about his football team scoring a Big Duck Egg on the second half against the Seattle Seahawks. “Swoon” said Rivera. Would Cam Newton blabber the same thing after the Super Bowl 50? Besides It was Atlanta Falcons that handed Carolina Panthers the big Goose Egg… Expect more of the same…

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Speaking of “expecting more of the same”…. Remember when Denver played Seattle in the SB two years ago? Expect more of that this afternoon….

raiderrob21 says:Feb 7, 2016 1:59 PM

He should be real emotional at halftime also- After being sacked numerous times and throwing 2 picks

ikeclanton says:Feb 7, 2016 2:03 PM

lukedunphysscienceproject says:
Feb 7, 2016 1:19 PM
daytontriangles says:
Feb 7, 2016 1:08 PM
I hope when the Superbowl is over and Peyton announces his retirement, he gives thanks to the man most responsible for his success.

Rex Grossman.

Oh, fun! Let’s play this game.

I hope when Tom Brady retires he thanks Jake Delhomme, Donovan McNabb, Adam Vinatieri, and whoever called that pass play on the goal line for the Seahawks last year!

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The problem with your version of the game is that when you make up excuses as to how Brady has won so much, the list would have to be a lot longer.

MichaelEdits says:
Feb 7, 2016 12:44 PM
When you look at Peyton’s playoff losses, look at how many times his team had the lead the last time he touched the ball. You can hate him if you want (I don’t), but don’t call him a playoff choker. That’s just bogus.

Oh, by the way, #KeepPounding !

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Of his 13 losses his team scored more than 18 Pts twice and scored less than 8 three times. People can complain about his defenses being sub par but he has come up short a lot in the playoffs.

coloradotennisfan says:Feb 7, 2016 2:10 PM

I just cannot get the idea of a superbowl blowout off my mind. I hope that I am wrong so that the game is interesting. The Broncos have a terrible history of blowouts even when facing mediocre teams. Two years ago, the Broncos were favored or the odds were close. They defied the odds and got blown out. They have another chance at redemption. The anemic offense makes the best case (low scoring game) at odds with other scenarios.

Rare chance to see arguably the best ever go out in ultimate style. Like Manning or not, it’s pretty awesome to get a chance to see that. It’s all on the Defense. If they pressure Cam consistently I can see him melting down.

Wish I could still feel as if The Big Game was ‘important’.
But if I could I would say I’d rather see Denver win it.
Manning’s last hurrah and all that.
Panthers and Newton appear to be entering a window where they should be in this position a couple few more times.
So would seem more story-book for Denver to win.

Panthers have the big momentum. Denver D definitely has to play like the best Defense in the league. Manning would need to have a solid, not great or spectacular game.

Big problem I see for Denver is that they were designed to beat New England. Carolina is totally different style. Not a good match-up on paper.

But a couple big plays could make the difference. I think the turnover margin will be a bigger than usual factor in this one.

So many posters talking about various teams or players cheating. Way overblown in my opinion. Only winning matters in the end.

The only ‘certified’ cheaters are the Pats right? And they still have all their Super Bowl trophies. The home-run records from the steroid era in baseball still stand. See what I mean?

Also maybe it would more sense if this HGH substance wasn’t banned for people recovering from a serious injury and playing a sport like NFL football where they are destroying their bodies anyway?? But that’s a whole other argument.

Wishing you all a happy Super Bowl. Hoping the game is not a blow-out and the old man retires on a HiGH note🙂
Panthers are just coming into their prime. Why….when they lost Kelvin Benjamin for the entire season I don’t recall Any pundits giving them much of a chance for a good year, let alone a great year. Imagine them next year with that WR back.

Denver 21 Carolina 20, but I wouldn’t bet the house on it.

wallabear says:Feb 7, 2016 2:22 PM

Aaahhh…

Big Bro Manning’s Last Stance

“C’mon guys. This is my last shot to tie up with my lil’ bro, Eli[te], and get a second trophy. I need you guys to focus here. Von [Miller]… if you can in any way be disruptive like Vontaze [Burfict] and get to Cam — whatever you can do — that’ll be great, man — and some new designer eyeglasses’ll be on me. Demaryius… Emmanuel… I know my passes don’t have the same velocity like they used to, but I want you to try your very best to get to the ball. Whatever trash-talkin’ the Panthers corners do, I want you guys to focus and not get distracted by it. Let’s close it out here: Championship On Two: One, Two!”

What a bunch of haters and know nothing louts come to this web site to vent their jealousy and bitterness. Wouldn’t it have been better to have just kept your mouths shut??????????????????
I wish Peyton Manning the best, I hope he retires with this SB win because whatever the haters have to say, he deserves it as does his team.

Well of course. It’s well known that an HGH side effect is intense emotional swings

Gotta wonder if any Manning family hired “law enforcement officials” may have paid a visit to the families of the game officials in the last week

ebdug says:Feb 7, 2016 2:41 PM

Planets don’t line up for teams. Manning’s retirement won’t be a factor no matter who wins the game. When the ball is spotted after the opening touchback and the pads start slapping, nobody’s going to be thinking about their mama. May the team that plays better win.

willycents says:Feb 7, 2016 2:45 PM

Manning win SB50???? No way. Patriots beat the Panthers 65-14. Brady throws a record 9 td passes and the awesome Pats D gets a safety when Cam falls down in the end zone to avoid injury from a blitz by Amendola (playing cb). Patriots finish the season as the first 19-0 team in history. Brady is MVP and is given ownership of the entire NFL, all franchises included.

It sure seems fine for people to bash someone who’s innocent right now about potential hgh use but don’t you dare talk to those same people about Brady in deflate gate who had his buddy calling himself the deflator.

animalkindness says:
Feb 7, 2016 2:26 PM
What a bunch of haters and know nothing louts come to this web site to vent their jealousy and bitterness. Wouldn’t it have been better to have just kept your mouths shut??????????????????
I wish Peyton Manning the best, I hope he retires with this SB win because whatever the haters have to say, he deserves it as does his team.
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I thought that was the point of this website. It’s basically a gossip column based of Pro Football isn’t it? / I’d rather Denver wins the game too, but as William Munny said, “Deserves got nothin’ to do with it”. / The team that plays best on this given Sunday will win, (hopefully).

vancouversportsbro says:
Feb 7, 2016 2:48 PM
It sure seems fine for people to bash someone who’s innocent right now about potential hgh use but don’t you dare talk to those same people about Brady in deflate gate who had his buddy calling himself the deflator.
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Right, because we haven’t all been talking about deflategate for the past year??

If Manning retires, none of the career records he has set are safe. He’s played for 3 years more than Brady. If Brady has 3 more good years all the records are in jeopardy and A 4th year would probably guarantee they will be passed.

The way Brady is going he could make it to 42 or 43.
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Brady is one of the toughest I’ve seen but he won’t make mid 40’s if the beat downs keep coming like they did in 2015.

Manning has multiple major neck surgeries in 1 year, his wife”supposedly gets HGH and he comes back to have the greatest statistical season of all time and people don’t question that. I guess when you have the all time most playoff one and done and only 1 Bowl win in your career including college, people don’t have to have a reason to be jealous of you. Now I get it. Against the Seahawks, Manning soiled his shorts from the pressure and played awful. Brady led the greatest comeback in SB history and won the MVP against the Seahawks. Boo hoo, the balls were properly inflated like this season, how did he play so good whiners?. Keep crying trolls, I enjoy a nickname in May of the offseason as the reason he was guilty. I guess you love all those Peyton Manning commercials??
Peyton with throw yet another Super Bowl pick six and Carolina will certify his big game status as the greatest GOAT of all time. Salary capc heats Will the Broncos hire lip readers to steal signals or put vaseline on their jerseys? Ignore the facts trolls.

Patriots fans at it again; gathering around doing keg stands talking about what could have been had their team not have been Orange munched. Hopefully, you are classy enough to admit that The Sheriff has had a hell of a ride and we will all miss the epic battles he has had with TB.

vegasgreek says:
Feb 7, 2016 1:30 PM
all of raider nation is rooting for the panthers . we all hate the donkeys. a huge loss will finish them off and give the raiders a shot at the AFC west in 2016-17.

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It’s ok. All of Broncosnation has loved the last 15 years watching the debacle that is known as The Raiduhs… Ineptitude at its highest!! If Raiders fans are not aware of what “ineptitude” means it pretty much your organization.

If the Broncos don’t win the AFC west next year, it’ll be the Chiefs.

Raiders will always suck.

senatorblutarsky says:Feb 7, 2016 4:09 PM

vikingforlife says:
Feb 7, 2016 11:46 AM

I really don’t know why so many people have to berate this man. I want to see him have a very good game, if not a great game. That is my hope for him. Why can’t we want a happy ending instead of a sad one? I just don’t get people sometimes, I really don’t. The negativity is so bad for everyone, don’t you know that?
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He’s berated because he’s a cowardly, selfish, greedy cheat. He illegally injects HGH then lies about it and blames his wife in an effort to maintain the validity of his records and earning potential.

Regarding negativity, it depends on your side of the fence. I prefer to think of my opinion as positivity for the Panthers. Why are you so negative in wanting a sad ending for Cam Newton and the Panthers? See what I mean?

Ok people… Those of you haters that insist that The Broncos won their super bowls by circumventing the Salary cap… Here are some facts

1. The Washington Post stated In a memo from the NFL to the Broncos, they ruled that this violation was unrelated to the salary cap, that it did not give the Broncos a competitive advantage, and that the Broncos did not make a deliberate attempt to break league rules regarding deferred compensation obligations. However, they still were stripped of a third round pick

2. The same deferments were also made by the 49ers to Steve Young. So if your logic is rational to you, then you would also think that the 49ers cheated their way into their SB win w Young.

3. The article stated also that in memos from the NFL that it was noted that the Broncos circumvented the cap to help pay for costs related to the construction of Invesco Field at Mile High. This was done by deferring money to later dates which translated guaranteed money. Also states were agreements to not waive players until a certain date (done to pay them later… As again.. Stated they had cash flow problems in helping pay for a new stadium)

In summary, yes they circumvented the cap…. AND the NFL stated no competitive advantage.. I CHALLENGE YOU TO SHOW THE WORLD how exactly that statement from the NFL was incorrect. Yes, I’m expecting Pats fans to bring up how the NFL is doing them wrong. However, go do your research and give details as to how the Broncos had a competitive advantage.

I’ll argue all day about the Pats being cheaters via their videotaping. As much as I’d love to say Brady cheated, the Wells Report isn’t conclusive. Do I think that he was hiding something when he smashed his phone? Yes… But am I going to beat pats fans over the head about that? No.

nflrule says:Feb 7, 2016 4:33 PM

He will be doing those very funny Papa John commercials by Monday morning…

patsfan4lifesbchamps says:Feb 7, 2016 4:34 PM

jsnarehihat says:
Feb 7, 2016 11:41 AM

Can you spell B-L-O-W-O-U-T Pressure up the middle! on Manning will render him AFRAID- Luke Kuechley will get at least one interception-
The Broncos already won their Superbowl against the Patriots- It will be a let down – as it is with most teams after they beat New England-

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The Broncos center and guards are actually the strongest part of their o-line. It is their tackles that are weak. Paradis, Mathis, and Vasquez have been pretty good this year for the Broncos.

patsfanshaveonlybeenfanssincebrady says:
Feb 7, 2016 4:02 PM
vegasgreek says:
Feb 7, 2016 1:30 PM
all of raider nation is rooting for the panthers . we all hate the donkeys. a huge loss will finish them off and give the raiders a shot at the AFC west in 2016-17.

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It’s ok. All of Broncosnation has loved the last 15 years watching the debacle that is known as The Raiduhs… Ineptitude at its highest!! If Raiders fans are not aware of what “ineptitude” means it pretty much your organization.

If the Broncos don’t win the AFC west next year, it’ll be the Chiefs.

Raiders will always suck
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Except for the fact that the Raiders are the more successful organization overall.

3 Superbowls wins is more than two and they didn’t have to cheat to win either. And dont have the record for most superbowl losses.

As a Bronco fan who loves to get on the net and talk fball, I have to say that the Carolina fans are so much nicer than Pat fans, it’s like night and day difference. Are manners and sportsmanship banned in New England?

solo681 says:Feb 7, 2016 4:45 PM

His emotions ran high when a surprise visit by Goodel came in and gave him a dose of HumanGrowthHead and said “This one’s for Peyton”.

bleck5 says:
Feb 7, 2016 4:42 PM
patsfanshaveonlybeenfanssincebrady says:
Feb 7, 2016 4:02 PM
vegasgreek says:
Feb 7, 2016 1:30 PM
all of raider nation is rooting for the panthers . we all hate the donkeys. a huge loss will finish them off and give the raiders a shot at the AFC west in 2016-17.

Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

It’s ok. All of Broncosnation has loved the last 15 years watching the debacle that is known as The Raiduhs… Ineptitude at its highest!! If Raiders fans are not aware of what “ineptitude” means it pretty much your organization.

If the Broncos don’t win the AFC west next year, it’ll be the Chiefs.

Raiders will always suck
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Except for the fact that the Raiders are the more successful organization overall.

3 Superbowls wins is more than two and they didn’t have to cheat to win either. And dont have the record for most superbowl losses.

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Aw… That’s so awesome that you think NOT making it to the super bowl makes them successful. Typical Raider Lover. You’d settle for 15 years of complete trash football and live off the Glory from over 30 years ago? IF I were to agree with your approach, then by your own argument, I’d argue the Browns are a more successful franchise than the Raiders because they won all those championships in the 50’s.

As for “the cheating”…. Do your research. When you come off as uninformed, you come off as a Raiders fan… Oh wait…

PeyPey is/was/always will be a loser.
How can he deny the HGH? You could use his forehead
for the screen at a drive in movie!!
Getting out of the game before all comes
tumbling down on him. What a loser.
Newton shows the ability to break all his
records years before he retires.

Aw… That’s so awesome that you think NOT making it to the super bowl makes them successful. Typical Raider Lover. You’d settle for 15 years of complete trash football and live off the Glory from over 30 years ago? IF I were to agree with your approach, then by your own argument, I’d argue the Browns are a more successful franchise than the Raiders because they won all those championships in the 50’s.

As for “the cheating”…. Do your research. When you come off as uninformed, you come off as a Raiders fan… Oh wait…

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I dont see how a franchise that makes a tradition of getting blown out in the superbowl is successful. And yes they cheated the cap and were fined two million dollars. They are quite classless

And the brown thing? Well it was a different game then. We are talking the Superbowl era…. lets not talk about those days way back then when the donkeys were a bigger laughing stock than they are now.

Yep, it is hurting this NE fan to have two teams in the SB50, and neither one is named the NE Patriots. I call it the mile high curse…altitude left NE in a brain fog and good Bronco game plan.
Nonetheless, I hope for a close SB50, but who are we kidding…Peyton has no zip on the ball. The only way for Broncos to pull out a miracle is if Peyton gets injured and Brock goes in. That Brock throws no picks, and their running game is on fire. Tall order considering Luke and the gang eats running backs. As for getting pressure on Cam…well, Cam is no Brady. Cam doesn’t go down very easily, more like a young Roth. Although, Cam isn’t as good as Brady in the throwing department, decision making, and whatnot, he’ll throw off the Broncos with a scamper or two.
The way Carolina pounded Arizona tells me this afternoon will be a blowout. Carolina is too young and stupid to think…they’ll just be pedal to the metal like Seattle was two years ago.

bonniebengal says:Feb 7, 2016 5:21 PM

Panthers are too good all around. Their D will keep Denver from scoring enough to win the game.

Denver fans always seem to forget that the team that humiliated them in super bowl 48, was the same team the Pats beat to win super bowl 49!!!

thermanmerman99 says:Feb 7, 2016 5:53 PM

At least when Manning gets emotional, he doesn’t scream with a high pitched wailing with a higher voice than Richard Simmons like Tammy Hair Plugs and UGGS Brady. Shattering windows and TV screens across America when Tammy had a whine pitched breakdown

@mannerman, I’m afraid tb12 is more man than you’ll ever be. Your wife, girlfriend, would dump you in a ny minute to go out with this guy. Your hate means nothing to him or anyone else for that matter. Hope you enjoy the beating you are about to get. Lol