Kommentare

Kommentar von ninjasoldat

With the mangle debuff you can regularly see +2k crits (at 70) with shred and with the shredding attacks talent this becomes the skill with the highest DPS output.

If you have another feral druid tanking your DPS will be even greater because you wont have to reapply the Mangle debuff.

For solo grinding this is very useful in the Pounce -> Mangle -> Shred Combo. If you have Omen of Clarity and Shredding Attacks you can even get 2 Shreds in if OoC procs. This will take most normal mobs below 10% if not kill them altogether.

The same goes for PvP opponents.

Kommentar von ll4m4

This is the druid's backstab. Used until you get "Ravage" (ambush) at 36 I think, or 34.

Kommentar von Dimizor

Can someone verify this for me please?Rate me down if you want, but this is only a question...

Can enemies dodge when attacked from behind or not?I recall having multiple times where my Shred was dodged. I even remember reading it in the combat log: "Your Shred was dodged by (name)" or however it is written.It may have been that as soon as I used it, the target turned around and dodged it, but I highly doubt it.

Kommentar von Aumann450

I just got 50, and spent the talent point to get mangle. And i've found that mangle does just about exactly the same ammount of damage as shred. And mangle is less energy to use then shred even if you have put points into Shredding attacks.

Should I just remove shred from the action bar? It seems kind of pointless to have. Or when hit 70 and have new ranks of shred/mangle will this change?

Kommentar von Kampai

Anyone know if the Bleed bonus apply to bleeds already applied to the target?

Kommentar von Serai

yes it applies to bleeds already on the target, the reverse is also true

if your rip ticks for lets say 500 with mangle up and mangle expires halfway trough the next rip tic will be lower. so for pve dps its vital to keep the mangle debuff up at all times

Kommentar von SamjiWahala

I've had my feral druid at 70 now for about 5 months, and i can say with almost absolute certainty that shred and mangle have nothing in common. Also as Aumann stated as soon as you get mangle, it does more dps than shred even if you are talented correctly. Later on you get better shreds and than it becomes more useful. but it still is hard to say if thats better, shred has a odd number of energy cost, not to mention if you spent points and got omen of clarity or w/e its called the faster you attack the more free attacks you get. What I generally do is mangle as much as i can till that procs, than use shred. that way i keep up my damage, speed, and with rip out my mangle debuf, as well as the idol's buff.

Kommentar von dev10us

How is it possible for this to be dodged when coming out of stealth when it requires you to be behind the target and you cant be dodged from behind?

Kommentar von StephanePare

Kommentar von frankierae

I have no idea what the point of this talent is at lvl75... when you train this, Mangle-Cat (Rank 4) is available for training too. In TBC Shred used to be superior dmg/energy, due to it being only useable from behind, and was the main attack in the dps cycle, however at lvl75 Mangle does more dmg and costs less energy.

Kommentar von CaptainFizz

Incidentally, with expertise in game now, bosses chance to dodge can be brought to 0%.

26 expertise (6.5%) is enough to prevent any dodges as bosses have a 6.5% chance to dodge.

Note it is different from the 9% chance to miss a lvl73 which is only addressed by +hit.

Kommentar von Kheldron

shred has a bit more damage than mangle without any chain buffs.We can save our precious talent points by not giving two of them to Shredding Attacks of course but when it comes to buffs...

There are three things make shred yummy.1. mangle buff gives +%30 damage2. Rend and Tear gives +%20 damage.3. Glyph of more damage +%20 damage.if you want to use shred, you have to spend 2 talent points for increasing damage output by %30 (60 energy to 42 energy)(im not counting +combo point damage).here we come,pounce the target, mangle it, shake it shake shake it...

Kommentar von Feato

This is the main attack of any raiding cat, while mangle is used only for it's debuff.

Kommentar von Hawkedge

Expertise has always been in the game :PJust, no one used it.

Kommentar von t5abee

Hi,i'd like to introduce an idea that might solve a few of our problems.Some ferals complain about shred's pos requrirement, but maybe the ability would just be too op if they removed it, and i dont want the feral to become an other utilitiyless class with insane burst that people just whine about (aka ret).So here is the idea:Claw should get a 10 sec CD whith a 3 sec lockout effect (off GCD off course), the whole thing could be added to a high level feral combat talent so that it could remain a DPS ability at low levels (above Leader of the Pack, a goodcandidate could be Predatory Instincts). They could raise the Maim cooldown to 20 sec like Kidney Shot hell, even 30, i don't mind, or they could just put it on the same cooldown with Claw.I think we just deserve a crappy off GCD off CP interrupt like all the other classes (except rets). I'm just tired of being unique in watching the healers castbar helplessly raising.Thx for reading and if you like the idea then just keep it alive, spread it everywhere.

Also, since they nerfed Rend and Tear to the ground and we are the only spec with 2 51 pointers(the feral tree is very bloated and this way would become even more) they could change it to a 3 rank talent.

Kommentar von Ultros

Suggestions should be made on the official forums, wowhead, like other sites is just for sharing information that is actually active in game, discussing uses and possible counters/problems.

Actually I don't really get what your saying either. If you post on the forums you'll have to explain yourself better.

Another thing:

I'm just tired of being unique in watching the healers castbar helplessly raising.

I guess your also tired of things like cylone, using natures grasp to instant root melees, having a last stand trinket, switching to bear if you done enough bleeds and there is incomming damage from melees, travel form, a passive snare, tigers fury, berserk and last but not least immunitiy to polymorph effects. Blizzard already stated that the homogenization has gone to far already (and right they are!). Gl tough.