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Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

Ah, a new distraction/tangent/rabbit hole, the prohibition against SSM....is based upon the argument that it would be an "oxymoron".

Please, enlighten us with this new moronic argument.

I've done this already. Marriage makes no sense for same sex pairings.

If marriage is not for creating a family, not for bearing children, not for the sake of anything but a willingness to agree to a contract, then anything goes with it. Marriage always had a focus and that focus was to establish state approved couples in pairings that made biological sense. But hey, we've been over this already many times and you're not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change your mind. Some states agree with you. Some states agree with me. Eventually it will come down to arguments in our courts and we'll see if homosexuals will be able to bend the will of the states to their whims. I'm sure in your mind, it's all crystal clear that you are absolutely right about all this. That's your prerogative.

You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

Originally Posted by Papa bull

And I don't need one. The onus to produce a compelling argument is on those advocating homosexual marriage. If they can successfully produce an argument that there is a significant state benefit by expanding their marriage criteria to include same-sex couples, they'll win. Arguing that if the state can't explain why it doesn't want to, that it must make those changes isn't going to win. And there are... what.... 38 states that don't feel homosexuals have made a compelling argument.

Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

Originally Posted by Papa bull

I've done this already. Marriage makes no sense for same sex pairings.

If marriage is not for creating a family, not for bearing children, not for the sake of anything but a willingness to agree to a contract, then anything goes with it. Marriage always had a focus and that focus was to establish state approved couples in pairings that made biological sense. But hey, we've been over this already many times and you're not going to change my mind and I'm not going to change your mind. Some states agree with you. Some states agree with me. Eventually it will come down to arguments in our courts and we'll see if homosexuals will be able to bend the will of the states to their whims. I'm sure in your mind, it's all crystal clear that you are absolutely right about all this. That's your prerogative.

We already went over this, the fact is that every day in every state sterile couples get married, the argument that the state should limit marriage to procreation purposes has already been settled. Again I will refer to the previously cited findings of facts where it was established that the state has a multitude of reasons for marriage other than procreation and SSM shares in all of those reasons.

Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth

We already went over this, the fact is that every day in every state sterile couples get married, the argument that the state should limit marriage to procreation purposes has already been settled. Again I will refer to the previously cited findings of facts where it was established that the state has a multitude of reasons for marriage other than procreation and SSM shares in all of those reasons.

Re: Awaiting the Supreme Court's gay marriage decisions [W:641]

Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth

We already went over this, the fact is that every day in every state sterile couples get married, the argument that the state should limit marriage to procreation purposes has already been settled. Again I will refer to the previously cited findings of facts where it was established that the state has a multitude of reasons for marriage other than procreation and SSM shares in all of those reasons.

when a persons only argument completely fails and gets destroyed the desperation move is to keep repeating it, hoping it will magically stick one time or that the focus will be deflected from the fact it failed.

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