Report: Phils Have “Serious Discussions” With Seattle About Byrd

According to Seattle Mariners’ beat writer Ryan Davish, Marlon Byrd has indicated he is willing to waive his no trade clause to go to Seattle in a potential deal that has reached the serious discussion stage. According to CSN Philly’s Leslie Gudel, Byrd has not yet committed to doing such.:

When asked if he’d waive no-trade clause to Mariners Byrd said “the trade would have to happen first then I would discuss what’s best (cont)

Byrd is hitting .263/.315/.479, leading the Phillies in homers with 18 and slugging percentage. Byrd, 36, is signed through 2015 at $8 million per year, has a limited no trade clause that would require his consent to be dealt to Kansas City, Seattle, Tampa Bay, and Toronto, and has an attainable trigger for 2016 for an $8 million salary.

It sends the message that by the time this team will be a contender again, Marlon Byrd (and many others on the team) will be retired. It’s simply exchanging a short term asset for a long term asset. That’s pretty much how it works.

Byrd on pace for about 35 HR’s…even if he regresses some and hits 30 he still is of value for his contract..2016 option kinda takes away…it does seem like Amaro hands these out to often..but i dont know if its the norm around the league..

Yes they are. If the whiners who are constantly bashing Amaro for “too easily” handing out option years took the trouble to actually look at contracts around the league, they’d see that.
Here it is guys, feel free:

So you’re saying Ibanez, Polanco, Adams, Ruiz, Byrd, and Burnett were premium players when Amaro tacked on their option years? They were all guys at the end of their careers, and there wasn’t exactly a bidding war for their services. Leverage? You can’t be serious.

You seem to think that a “premium player” is a super star. Yes, Ibanez, Byrd, Burmett, and Adams were premium players based on their previous playing year performance, although in Adams’ case he was coming off surgery. All of these guys were or would have been sought by and gotten competitive offers from other teams. They were decidedly not replacement-level blokes. I’m not saying I would have signed all of those guys, but that’s not the point. Ruiz does not have a player option, it’s a club option. Polanco had no option, just a straight buyout, either .5M or 1.0M, I forget which.

There were at at least the Orioles and Pirates involved in Burnett’s case. The Rockies and red Sox were involved in Ruiz’s case. At the time the Phillies signed him, Mike Adams was being pursued by the Rockies and Cubs. I think you can question whether or not RAJ should have pursued those players in the first place, but, if you really want a guy, and there are other teams involved options are given.

As much as I hate to see Hamels be moved, he brings us the biggest return. Hamels and Byrd to the Mariners with the Phils eating some cash (Hamels owed 90 Mil. and Byrd 8 after this season with an option)..for Walker, Paxton, Franklin (Franklin as a future 2b option) and outfiled prospect Jarbari Blash (Mariners 18th best prospect).. it’s a big haul for the Phils to land Walker (4th best prospect in mlb) and Paxton who is a high ceiling prospect and the others.

Just my opinion of course, but I see Marlon Byrd’s 2016 option as very reasonable, and don’t think it will be a detriment when trying to trade him.

He has to have 1100 PA’s 2014-2015 including 550 in 15, or 600 PA’s in 2015

If Byrd gets that many PA’s at his age, then he has both remained healthy and is performing very well – or he wouldn’t get them.

I’m not a big believer in WAR/ FA Dollars as presently measured by fangraphs, but it’s a useful comparison tool. So using that, if he stays on present pace, he will have outperformed the entire contract in his first two years anyway.

This team can’t score now…just imagine how bad they’ll be by Aug 1st. If Byrd was 30, I’d say keep him, but this team doesn’t have a chance to compete until 2017 when they can get out of that terrible Howard contract.

I think what the phillies should do u know even right now there in a very very deep slump they can do something’s that could be best things for the club and for Ruben amour jr to do would be is trade A.J Burnett and Marlon Bryd to the the rays for one of the best pitchers baseball right now would have to be David price. Next go to Seattle and try to do a trade possible like Jonathan Papelbon and Dominic Brown for Dustin Ackley also then for top pitcher prospects.

I wonder with all the speculation concerning whether or not the Phillies will become “sellers”, if anyone, including the PN writers, have given any thoughts about the media conglomerate, Comcast? The obvious connection is the Comcast Sportnet and their new $2.5 billion TV contract for 25 years with the Phillies. Don’t you think their corporate heads will have some say on what direction the team should take? With the declining attendance and likely a drop in TV ratings, one would certainly think Comcast is keeping an eye on the Phillies’ owners and GM on any decisions they make in possible trades. Sportnets has a very expensive media product to sell on air and do not want to jeopardize it with any talk of a “fire sale” and creating an image of a non-competitive, cellar dwelling team for the next several consecutive years.

Maybe Ruin Tomorrow Jr can trade himself and Ryan Howard. LOL. Then again, no other team is even remotely dumb enough to take on Howard at $25 Million a year. The only way the Phillies have a snowballs chance in hell of trading Howard is to probably pay at least $15 Million a year of his contract. UGH.