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Even better because all the fed needs to do is enter the wrong passcode ten times and the phone data gets cooked... Unlike most Androids where you can just remove the SD card and dump it on a computer and brute force the shit out of it. Very secure.

Once we get the backdoor everyone is up for grabs. Doesn't seem fair that we remain international turrists police, especially when we are super shitty at it. Oh and even if we did give your guys' governments the back door, we sure as hell aren't giving it to russia.

For the record, americans are short sighted idiots afraid of something that happened on the news. What about FALN? Eh we will pardon them.. BUT ISIL TURRISTS THAT MIGHT NOT ACTUALLY BE ISIL WE NEED ACCESS TTO THEIR PORNNNNN.

Sorry guys, but I don't know what we can do to stop the FBI from destabilizing already razor thin foreign relations.

WTF is a "turrists" and I'll be willing to bet, you've "grabbed" the "backdoor" more than a few times....

In the future, we all just have to use open source software and end-to-end encryption algorithms. People just haven't reacted enough to the backdoors to stop using Windows computers for example, so companies keep giving backdoors to the government.

To be honest I have no idea what your post said or meant. So I am going with this....

I have an i-phone. Am I worried...nah. I figure there are even more terrifying things I don't even know about. I am not going to waste brain power on this. Life is too short man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by relic

I have nothing to hide.

It's exactly this kind of attitude that will lead to us all living in police/surveillance states.

It's not about having something to hide it's about having the right to hide something and have a bit of privacy. Just because you do not have anything illegal to hide you still don't want to live in a glass house in which you are constantly watched just because you might...
In addition to that there is always the possibility of corrupt/wrong data. If these agencies and companies start to use all of this data to make certain conclusions they will rely on certain alogrithms to determine risk and course of action. What if you did just a few things that raise a red flag although there was no bad intention from your side (ever seen the movie Brazil?).
Also the problem with backdoors is that once they are there they are there to be used by anyone that can find them. You really think the cyber criminals out there won't get their hand on this kind of stuff and use it to steeal your cash and identity?

Here's a simple explanation for just one of the reasons why this is generally a bad idea:

So many other reasons why this is a really dumb idea and why statements such as "I have nothing to hide" or "I don't have time for this" are really, really naive and dangerous.

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Originally Posted by Jaded

Good day to be an Apple user.

Even better because all the fed needs to do is enter the wrong passcode ten times and the phone data gets cooked... Unlike most Androids where you can just remove the SD card and dump it on a computer and brute force the shit out of it. Very secure.

And yeah, what Jaded said. The reason we are only having this conversation about Apple and iPhones is probably because:

1) They do not need the backdoors for Android because they are already easy enough to hack/break into
2) Since Google, as far as I know, hasn't even made any statements regarding this subject I would suspect that they already have made similar deals with the US government before.

Those of you interested in finding out more about this important issue should go read some stuff by Bruce Schneier: