Seems as though Hanoi >>HK>>Bangkok would not be necessary if they could have gone Hanoi>>BKK directly, right?

Yup... i guess so.. I think imposible they must go to hongkong for flight via bangkok, since many flight from vietnam to Bangkok.. So possible way is they go to Johannesburg. I Hope Johannesburg just connection to other city in africa. :fingercrossed:

I didn't find any flights from BKK or KUL to JNB late on the 24th or early 25th. Only alternative route is through Singapore, HAN>>SIN>>JNB....it arrives about 30 minutes after the two fights from Hong Kong arrive in JNB. It appears to me that teams are stuck with the near 12 hour layover in Hong Kong......that gives Phil more time separation.

With Maun Botswana identified as the next destination point for AR22, the following one should be hypothesized. There are many possibilities within Africa. However, my bet is on this combination for Nov. 29:

Thanks for the data! I'm almost positive we'll have to say Bemvindos & Adeu, Brasil. As TARflyOnTheWall said, countries do get rewarded, and Brazil is doing it now! Brazil went from A Corrida Milionaria to TARLA and now it is The Amazing Race Brasil!

Peach, it is possible that teams may have to use Sao Paulo as a connection point to somewhere else in South America.

IIRC, when teams last took a flight out of Brazil to South Africa, the scheduled flights were 6 days a week; but teams had to use different ways of getting to Sao Paulo to fly out. I would think that if the Race is going the obverse way this time, then they would need that route in order to make a connection to another location in South America.

I fully understand we're all speculating at the moment, but it does seem that a south of the Tropic of Cancer route until the last leg or so is falling into place. I dunno but to me it feels right.

I think it all depends on the number of legs in Vietnam and the number of legs in Maun. If both were 2 (and there was time in each place for that to happen), then the flight into Switzerland with its subsequent tasks there would have been leg 10 and another leg in Switzerland leg 11. Such a short race has never happened before, but you cannot say that it is not possible. World Race Productions is trying to save production costs and what better way than a shorter in time race?

Note: Peach has issued a count of legs up to Maun than is one shorter than mine.

I think it all depends on the number of legs in Vietnam and the number of legs in Maun. If both were 2 (and there was time in each place for that to happen), then the flight into Switzerland would have been leg 10 and the leg in Switzerland leg 11. Such a short race has never happened before, but you cannot say that it is not possible. World Race Productions is trying to save production costs and what better way than a shorter in time race?

How are you counting that please? Why would we count the FLIGHT to Switz as a leg?

Here is where is gets muddy. We had a LOT of time in Africa. At least 4 FULL days. Dep HK 11/24 and Phil is seen in Switz 11/29 making us think teams are pitstopping/starting travel that day)

Botswana>>2 (plus an extended Pitstop, vs some slim chance another location??) Leg 7 and 8 OR 6 and 7 OR 7, 8, 9 OR 6, 7, 8 if you consider ALL options

Switzerland>>1 Prob Leg 9 (some slim chance of 8 or 10)

So...we should have 3 legs left by my best guess.... possible but not likely could have 4 or 2And this is all based on a 12 leg race, nothing to say they couldn't use 13 even! (I know...but we can assume NOTHING)

Am I missing anything?

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2) Night sleep train from Zurich to Berlin. Leaves Zurich Hbf at 7:42 pm and arrives at Berlin Hbf at 7:19 am. Teams would have to get to Zurich from Interlaken on Swiss Inter-Regional trains first.

The two trains follow different routes. The ICE train goes all the way north to Hannover, then turns east to Berlin. The Night Sleeper turns in Frankfurt and goes NE to Berlin.

I didn't look for other times......just entered 1800 in the German Rail website to look for possible trains. If we had some more finite times, we can probably get a better idea on exact trains. But the potential for a rolling pit stop does exist.

2) Night sleep train from Zurich to Berlin. Leaves Zurich Hbf at 7:42 pm and arrives at Berlin Hbf at 7:19 am. Teams would have to get to Zurich from Interlaken on Swiss Inter-Regional trains first.

The two trains follow different routes. The ICE train goes all the way north to Hannover, then turns east to Berlin. The Night Sleeper turns in Frankfurt and goes NE to Berlin.

I didn't look for other times......just entered 1800 in the German Rail website to look for possible trains. If we had some more finite times, we can probably get a better idea on exact trains. But the potential for a rolling pit stop does exist.

Odd that checkin time was so late then. But I LOVE train legs!

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