MUTU wrote:Still waiting for your opinion on best 195+cm CD in football history. For me that would be DvB.

Why are you moving the goal posts with a totally different discussion?

Sule is already better than van Buyten ever was IMO, so I disagree with that.

Van Buyten is more on a level with Vestergaard, Mertesacker, etc.

When Suele scores twice against AC Milan, we'll talk. DvB was world class if protected from midfield.

CB's job isn't to score, it's to defend and play the ball out of the back! And every CB would look great if they had great protection from midfield. Even Cahill looked decent when he played behind Kante at Chelsea.

There was no time van Buyten should ever be associated with "world class" except for on set pieces.

Anyways, I'll drop it, I can tell we're pretty far apart in our evaluations of the players. Just a waste of time to keep going back and forth.

MaCk0y wrote:I just don't understand. Does the referee always review the replay himself?

I think when it's a matter of a final decision needed to be made, like that yellow card. It could have been red, so the field referee has the final say in that. Issues such as offside and wrongly disallowed goals can be decided from the external VAR referees.

Dusel, he was the best Belgian player for a long while and their captain. He simply suffered from the tall player syndrome: they are unable to perform in a high defence line. Also I am not claiming he's great but tall defenders are so weak I cannot come up with a better player.

Really impressive win by the young guys. I didn't even think they'll make the final with that lineup, but they have risen to the occasion and proved themselves big time. A lot of future stars in this team, and a lot will have their say in next year's starting lineup. Congrats Germany!

America USA wrote:Congratulations to Chile or Portugal on winning the Confederations Cup! Russia and Mexico are the dark horses. As much as I would love Germany to win this thing, lack of experience will be their undoing. At least two World Cup winners should have been selected in the team. Also, Reus and Ozil chickened out!

Still hoping that The Draxler-Sane combination does well as the wingers and Timo can score some goals against tough opposition.

MUTU wrote:For the sake of the fans and the German NT prestige (they definitely won't win the competition with this team) it would have been best if some other nation took Germany's place.

If the Confederations Cup was actually important to me, I'd be demanding apologies right now

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