Johann: No need to use all possibilities for merits for one alone but good to invite others to join and become more independend till free.

2019 Jan 15 15:04:39

Johann: no requirement to do all, merits step by step. "The path to nibbana is hard", they say, and don't do even little steps, Nyom. As inspired, its at least a working and concentration camp, Devas delight in creation, Devas having contr. over the creation of others.

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Posted by: Norum

Namaskara Bhante,Jom reap sour Senghour and Moritz, It's nice to hear that, Seng hour interest in this project. As Bhante Johann described, you can follow his guide, and if you don't understand or not sure some things in those texts, please feel free to ask me

I've sent Vol.43 via mail again and only Moritz can get it. I'm going to send vol. 44 soon, so please inform me when you get it, thanks

Posted by: Johann

Please use this topic just for general issues, like "I like to join the work, please tell me what can I help" or similar. For details please use the step topics according the main guide . Thanks for you patient and empathy in regard of coordinating this big and serious work.

Posted by: Norum

(*) I hope this is good and proper way of address, as Chanroth used such a way as well, I think please correct me if this is not right

Chanroth may be younger than me, that is why he calls me older sister. Cambodian people always calls older sister/brother or aunt/uncle grandma/grandpa to respect the older. In this situation i should call you older brother Moritz, and you call me just sister or younger sister . It is the way khmer people address each other

In chhouk-krohom, only some parts are the same, but if you want, i will devide them into Sutta or Vagga,...

Have a nice timeJom reap lea

Posted by: Johann

Yes, Moritz. So especially Upasika Norum can focus on her main work, and use the forum as a kind of relaxing from proufreading and to enjoy the sharing of her work and the burdens here we work out step by step. Just good internet connectio1 35% battery, so Atma will try to work out the guides and steps, which will make all more at ease. Upasaka Chanroth will grow into all slowly and meanwhile helps with writing down on Sutta after another, so he finds time.

Posted by: Moritz

If Upasika likes, she could do it in the way of Step 3, it would provide the most current for all paticipator and gives all possible ways to help in progress.

Yes, if step 3 is first create topics for all remaining to be checked files / vaggas / suttas that would put all the work first into the most "common ground". It could be practical if getting used to the forum.

Posted by: Moritz

After looking around a bit I have seen, older sister (*) Norom already has structured her website in the same way as the Chaṭṭha Saṅgāyana Tipiṭaka online version like here or here . So that is a very useful division also for this integration here as articles.Since I think Norom already has a clear way of integrating the Tipitaka on her website, maybe it could be the most proper way to create the articles here by copying the text (so far it is already finished) directly from the website chhoukh-krohom.de. So that older sister (*) Norom could simply continue in her usual way and upload any new completed parts first there when they are finished.

About the integrating here, since it is a little bit more than just copy and paste (but also working on the internal format, HTML/CSS code, and adding some other info), I still have to think a bit, and maybe it would also be possible to do some big part of it by programming (but for sure many things left to do by hand). I think, since this is still unclear, it would be good for Norum just to continue on in her usual way on her website, and just report whenever something new is finished.

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Before i upload them(41-end), I need to know the system, how the people work in this Forum. One Vol. by one vol. or one Sutta by Sutta? So that i can manage to post file (a whole file) or better articles (Chapter).Upasaka Chanroth, if you are ready for this team work, please reply me, we have to stay in contact. It is important!​ Thank you.

About the files: It is most practical if everything is separated in the same way as the Chatta Sangayana in the end, so the same way that it is in your website. So for Digha Nikaya, one file per sutta. For Majjhima Nikaya, one file per Vagga. For Samyutta Nikaya, one file per Samyutta ..., I think that is the most useful if it is already separated that way. So if you could separate the files that still need to be checked in this way, I think that would be great and most helpful.

For working together here on correcting: I think it is the right way to do create single topics for this here like you and Chanroth and Bhante Johann have done here and here , if I understand correctly, if I understand correctly, so where you post the text and correction for single sutta/vagga or what it is in any case. And best then also create a topic with a list that could be always updated and marked, which sutta/vagga/samyutta/... is already corrected, and which still needs checking, and with links to the single topics for each sutta/vagga that are being worked on here.I hope that it is practical. I just think that this is the best way that the forum can be made use of for it as a coordination platform.Maybe it could also be more practical for you to work on the checking/correcting directly in the docx files (but as suggested, I think better to be separated in the same way as they should be integrated afterwards, according to the way of Chatta Sangayana Tipitaka and your website structure). There is now software that Chanroth hopefully could use to also work directly on docx files. (But I still need to explain this (and still have not really tried it out myself). But in any case it should be possible for him, at least theoretically and with some explaining, to read and copy from docx files.But of course I do not know how much time he has, or other busyness and difficulties. (And for me here, it is actually the same. I have a lot of things to do that I am losing out of focus.) And I hope we can coordinate in a good way to work all with best of our possibilities and a clear direction to be able to be most independent while still informing all necessary for coordination.

Of course I did not understand what Chanroth said, and Chanroth will not understand this here. So Norum, it would be helpful if you could translate or (because it is maybe very much) to try and explain it to each other what is relevant in the best short clear way, whenever it is time. I know it can be complicated, so don't worry to let it wait maybe. Thank you.

(*) I hope this is good and proper way of address, as Chanroth used such a way as well, I think please correct me if this is not right

Thank you both and may you have peaceful times and no stress. And don't hesitate to ask for clarifications or suggest what is practical for you, or tell that you have no time at the moment and will come back maybe later, if it is too much.

Chum reap lea (What does this mean? I hope it makes sense here. )

PS: I see, Bhante has already written some more directions/suggestions that could be helpful here and here (or maybe double post and both the same) while I have written this. So I hope what I wrote is compatible with this. I will come back on it later, now have to go to some other occupations.

Posted by: Johann

Joyful to see you care for each other. Chanroth had, how ever, cut him of from all communications, even has given away his handy. Young man... and a new life. Not easy, and he is busy all the time with his small beloved home. And email and Cambodians, 1 in a 10.000 uses such to communicate. Please understand that there is actually no history of communication and know usuall to use even letters. Using internet uses the verb "play", generally. So its hard, but possible. How ever, Atma, even its going to be dark already, will walk down and tell him, encourage him, try to install it and sacrify this work night, so that he might maybe start to get more used to it.

Its good to let you eager and joyful people do for a while by your self, actually nearly all edvices and guides had been made by Atma already here and there, of course they sometimes need to be modified to the current situation aaaand translated. Please be not sad, if he is not to motivate for now. You know, kusala and work like this here, es he told him self is very seldom in this world. One would not see to door for one self.