wasi wrote:Whether or not they allow multiple parallel chains in the same 'rack' like Live does I don't know. In any case the result can be achieved with sends as well (which of course would have to be able to be saved as a preset). That part really depends on the routing options and whether or not you can save them as templates/presets.

You have a device to layer instruments in parallel (then the fxs should go inside the synth apparently), and others to do multiband stuff. Even if you cant have parallel series of just fx (which I am almost sure they said it is possible, but I cant find the quote), it is already quite good and even more than what is possible with synths IIRC. Still full Racks to be saved would be the best...

It is so powerful and easy in Lives racks to do parallel chains... then you can layer, keyboard split/blend, velocity split/blend, or select via controller. I take it for granted until I try another host... Ableton doesn't always go the extra step to make a new feature great, but with the racks they just hit it right

I hope Bitwig covers this... then I will be keenly interested for sure...

Does this mean we can stack synths,eg: sylenth and a bitwig synth together put some compression and eq on it, and save them as a preset? I'm really hoping the answer to this is yes?

Perhaps a beta tester can say whether this is true or not?

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wasi wrote:Whether or not they allow multiple parallel chains in the same 'rack' like Live does I don't know. In any case the result can be achieved with sends as well (which of course would have to be able to be saved as a preset). That part really depends on the routing options and whether or not you can save them as templates/presets.

You have a device to layer instruments in parallel (then the fxs should go inside the synth apparently), and others to do multiband stuff. Even if you cant have parallel series of just fx (which I am almost sure they said it is possible, but I cant find the quote), it is already quite good and even more than what is possible with synths IIRC. Still full Racks to be saved would be the best...

It is so powerful and easy in Lives racks to do parallel chains... then you can layer, keyboard split/blend, velocity split/blend, or select via controller. I take it for granted until I try another host... Ableton doesn't always go the extra step to make a new feature great, but with the racks they just hit it right

I hope Bitwig covers this... then I will be keenly interested for sure...

Does this mean we can stack synths,eg: sylenth and a bitwig synth together put some compression and eq on it, and save them as a preset? I'm really hoping the answer to this is yes?

Perhaps a beta tester can say whether this is true or not?

Yeah, you can do that. The Instrument Layers aren't as deep as Lives Racks, so for some things you need additional devices (key splits etc.) but you can save that as a preset, so if you need a certain structure again, you can simply start with your preset and don't have to rebuild it each time.But other than Live, you have a REALLY good modulation system built in and not just some plumbed on, awkward M4L tools.There is both Instrument Layers and FX layers and inside of instrument layers you can have individual fx for each layer.And since you can include multiple Midi VSTs in one track as well, I think BWS has some goodness of it's own to offer...

After years of development and countless email teasers, no freakin' Audio Units support and they're charging $400 USD?! No thank you! I'm sure I'm not the only one majorly disappointed. I'll stick to Logic, Live and get Renoise for $78 USD instead! I hope this is resolved quickly, but their FAQ page states "Bitwig Studio won't support AU in version 1.0. We will consider supporting AU at a later stage." I hope that doesn't take them years and years to do. Wonder what they were thinking as judging from this photo on this page, their team seem to be mostly using Macs:

fucinay wrote:After years of development and countless email teasers, no freakin' Audio Units support and they're charging $400 USD?! No thank you! I'm sure I'm not the only one majorly disappointed. I'll stick to Logic, Live and get Renoise for $78 USD instead!

I'll be happy enough when there's finally a decent DAW for Linux. I'm very fond of Renoise as I've grown up on FastTracker II, but the tracking workflow just doesn't cut it anymore.

fucinay wrote:After years of development and countless email teasers, no freakin' Audio Units support and they're charging $400 USD?! No thank you! I'm sure I'm not the only one majorly disappointed. I'll stick to Logic, Live and get Renoise for $78 USD instead!

I'll be happy enough when there's finally a decent DAW for Linux. I'm very fond of Renoise as I've grown up on FastTracker II, but the tracking workflow just doesn't cut it anymore.

What do you mean the tracking workflow doesn't cut it anymore? Can you please elaborate?

No offense, but from a business standpoint, support for Audio Units is far more important than Linux support.