This is a sad, sad day for me. I respect his decision to ensure better quality of life later on but he has several good years left in him. I'm just glad we got to watch him return to form during the playoffs and Super Bowl victory a year ago.

He was a hell of a player and it didn't take long for him to be a respected leader in the Broncos locker room. I'm glad we could win him a super bowl ring, and I hope he has a great life after football.

How soon does he get into the hall of fame? Does he get into the hall of fame?

Oh yeah without a doubt. He had a run of a few years where he was arguably the best defensive player in the game. Zack would probably yell at you about Harrison being better in coverage but wtf does he know

Oh yeah without a doubt. He had a run of a few years where he was arguably the best defensive player in the game. Zack would probably yell at you about Harrison being better in coverage but wtf does he know

No I would say Harrison was as good if not better at rushing the passer, but was in coverage like 30% more.

Both should be in the HoF.

Edited by Zack_of_Steel, 15 March 2017 - 04:06 AM.

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Cry me a river and I'll piss you a puddle, 'cause either I don't give a fuck or my compassion's too subtle.

The biggest difference between the two is that Ware was as good for a longer span of time, but I would attribute that to physical gifts that Harrison wasn't blessed with

You're clearly uninformed, then...

Harrison has long been known as one of the strongest players in the league and he was our best LB at age 38. He just signed a 2 year contract.

Additionally, the only reason Ware was around for a longer span was because Harrison was backing up Porter until 2007 when he was pushing 30. He was an undrafted FA that nobody took seriously for years, but he stuck on the Steelers roster that heavily favored vets under LeBeau by wrecking shit on ST. The two knocks I had with LeBeau were not giving the young guys a chance and not adapting to the Patriots.

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Cry me a river and I'll piss you a puddle, 'cause either I don't give a fuck or my compassion's too subtle.

Harrison has long been known as one of the strongest players in the league and he was our best LB at age 38. He just signed a 2 year contract.

Additionally, the only reason Ware was around for a longer span was because Harrison was backing up Porter until 2007 when he was pushing 30. He was an undrafted FA that nobody took seriously for years, but he stuck on the Steelers roster that heavily favored vets under LeBeau by wrecking shit on ST. The two knocks I had with LeBeau were not giving the young guys a chance and not adapting to the Patriots.

I'm talking about length and speed, and James Harrison now is not close to what he was years ago, and hasn't been close to that since he went to Cincinnati. Ware's prime was longer, and would have been even longer if not for a neck injury. James Harrison was a great player. DeMarcus Ware was better and his later career years in Denver were better than Harrison's later career years in Cincy/Pittsburgh. Harrison may have played in coverage more, but as of right now we're talking about a 50 sack difference.

All that being said, I'm glad we still get to watch James Harrison play.

Sorry, but volume rarely beats average and factoring snap counts and pass rush attempts, Harrison wins in Sack% while also being miles better in coverage. Not to mention he has a DPOY award and maybe the greatest play in SB history under his belt.

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Cry me a river and I'll piss you a puddle, 'cause either I don't give a fuck or my compassion's too subtle.

You mean the pick 6 that only happened because of 2 or 3 uncalled illegal block in the back penalties?

And sack percentage, really? Ware still has over 50 more sacks than Harrison. You can't base your argument on what might have happened.

Fucking please. The minute I accept anything you have to say regarding fair play and reffing is the minute the line in my will kicks in and I head to Oregon to get assisted-offed.

And yes, Sack%. Are you kidding me? Guess Favre and Manning are the greatest QBs ever. Stafford should be MVP because he throws the ball 600 times a year. Some RB avgs 2.5 YPC and rushes for 2,500--HOF!

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Cry me a river and I'll piss you a puddle, 'cause either I don't give a fuck or my compassion's too subtle.