Review Notes:The Zen is a 5X50 Robusto, I believe the Data Base has the Karma and the Zen switched and I see a couple of reviews for the Zen under the Karma. Anyway, I was disappointed in the Zen. I was led to believe it was something like a Drew Estate. The only comparison might be the aroma which is very floral. I liked the understated band and with the veiny wrapper, it gave the cigar character, at least in appearance. However, the burn was not good, every time I ashed this cigar, I had to touch it up with the torch as it was burning inside without burning the wrapper, I believe this is called tunneling. The taste was intriguing for the first half, but soon I realized it was not for me. In short, it's a nice looking stick, with construction problems and a not too agreeable flavor. I certainly can't recommend these. The Bahia Trinidad robusto by Tony B. is a much better cigar.

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