Ferritor's daughter didn't write papers for players. She saw that Pate's paper was so bad it was going to get an f that she corrected so much of it that it was considered a different paper when she finished it. There were no other "papers". If there had been it would be known because that instance was the result of a administrative enema given at the hands of the ncaa looking for other things.

But even that isn't the same subject matter as recruiting violations, not just smaller in scale

The fbi sting has to do with inducing players by use of present and future monetary gains to choose your program over other opportunities offered by other programs, the vast majority of which are not paying RECRUITS. You only have to look at our results to check the veracity of such a claim.

Splitting hairs.Does it really matter if she was writing papers, or correcting papers? Whatever she was doing, she was the CHANCELLOR'S daughter...and you gotta admit that was a horrible look.

I sure would like to see some real changes to college sports as a result of this mess, the NCAA particularly. Personally I'd like to see any schools involved in this mess kicked out of their conferences and turned into instant independents. I'd like to see the NCAA revamped and given subpoena power and real teeth to their enforcement actions. I'd like to see somebody overseeing the NCAA so when they don't take action (North Carolina) they (NCAA) get a swift kick in the rear.

Not trying to defend the way the NCAA handles things, as we know they have their issues, but it probably sure helps when you can wiretap and seize laptops. I always wondered why the never used a couple 5-star plants to see who the highest bidders were.

Not trying to defend the way the NCAA handles things, as we know they have their issues, but it probably sure helps when you can wiretap and seize laptops. I always wondered why the never used a couple 5-star plants to see who the highest bidders were.

Because the NCAA never has been interested in bringing down the Big Boys - not really.

I agree. I think they are/were complicit as well...I dont think the FBI has any other choice but to lower the boom...

Pitino and Emmerts response to all this is BS.

Emmert is as much of the problem as anything. I've said it 100 times, every where that guy has gone has had corruption. He's the guy who fails at every stop of his career but keeps getting better chances. He's known what's going on, he's had ample time to clean it up, but instead we've only watch the "the rich get richer" under him. He's completely botched the following; auburn/newton, USC/bush, Miami/Shapiro, unc/fake classes, Louisville/brothel, and those are just the HUGE stories. Guy is a joke and I've said it on this forum no less than 15 times. There are some good articles at his failure at every stop, lsu UCOnn etc.

I read an article yesterday that was interesting. Congress in 2002 tried to pass a law that allowed for criminal punishment and legal powers on collegiate/NCAA infractions. The NCAA fought it and won, they didn't want it. That screams they knew of their corruption

“Rick Pitino hasn’t been charged with any crimes,” Jacobson said, “but CBS News has learned he is the man referred to in documents as Coach-2, someone who may have had a role in providing payments to a highly prized recruit’s family.”

“Coach-2” is one of two coaches from “University-6” named in the case against Adidas executive James Gatto. “University-6” has been identified as Louisville, and the school is discussed in paying a top recruit, identified as 2017 247Sports five-star Brian “Tugs” Bowen, $100,000. Bowen signed with, and has enrolled at, Louisville.

At one point, according to the case, AAU coach Brad Augustine stated that Adidas would likely “fund at least a portion of the future payments” to a player because “no one swings a bigger [expletive] than [Coach-2]” at Adidas. He went on to add that “all [Coach-2 has to do] is pick up the phone and call somebody, [and say] these are my guys, they’re taking care of us.”

Later, Christian Dawkins said “he had spoken with Coach-2 about getting additional money for [Bowen’s] family and informed Coach-2 that ‘I need you to call Jim Gatto, [the defendant,] who’s the head of everything’ at the [Adidas] basketball program.

“Rick Pitino hasn’t been charged with any crimes,” Jacobson said, “but CBS News has learned he is the man referred to in documents as Coach-2, someone who may have had a role in providing payments to a highly prized recruit’s family.”

“Coach-2” is one of two coaches from “University-6” named in the case against Adidas executive James Gatto. “University-6” has been identified as Louisville, and the school is discussed in paying a top recruit, identified as 2017 247Sports five-star Brian “Tugs” Bowen, $100,000. Bowen signed with, and has enrolled at, Louisville.

At one point, according to the case, AAU coach Brad Augustine stated that Adidas would likely “fund at least a portion of the future payments” to a player because “no one swings a bigger [expletive] than [Coach-2]” at Adidas. He went on to add that “all [Coach-2 has to do] is pick up the phone and call somebody, [and say] these are my guys, they’re taking care of us.”

Later, Christian Dawkins said “he had spoken with Coach-2 about getting additional money for [Bowen’s] family and informed Coach-2 that ‘I need you to call Jim Gatto, [the defendant,] who’s the head of everything’ at the [Adidas] basketball program.

Because the NCAA never has been interested in bringing down the Big Boys - not really.

Well even if they wanted to, which they probably wouldn't have you're right, they couldn't have put their thumb on them with this type of evidence. To get this stuff you need the wire taps, video and audio recordings with informants and undercover agents. It's almost hard to believe they even got executives at Adidas in this thing. Last week it came out that Adidas has reached an all time high market share of 11% and then this week top executives caught absolutely red handed breaking the law to help their brand. What a roller coast week for them, so embarrassing.

It was a singular act of an individual, not a way of regular business.

I wouldn't argue much with that, except for the person it was(the chancellor's daughter) made it look terrible.

But that defense has never worked. It didn't work for Arkansas in the 90s. (the Springdale CC thing was part of it too then I think)

UNC can make the same argument. it was a singular act of one professor setting up bogus classes to help athletes.

Louisville can and did make the same claim about the strippers. It was a 'rogue' assistant doing all this.

Whether it's true or not, it doesn't usually fly as a plausible excuse.

I, personally, think the UNC case is pretty brazen academic fraud and I couldn't care one whit if it was one person, or 20. They should be punished fairly hard.Louisville, same thing. One assistant, or goes up the chain to Pitino, doesn't matter. It happened, and they should be punished.Likewise, Arkansas no matter how/when/why it happened, they deserved some kind of punishment. I'm sure fans of other schools were probably wishing it was more severe.

I sure would like to see some real changes to college sports as a result of this mess, the NCAA particularly. Personally I'd like to see any schools involved in this mess kicked out of their conferences and turned into instant independents. I'd like to see the NCAA revamped and given subpoena power and real teeth to their enforcement actions. I'd like to see somebody overseeing the NCAA so when they don't take action (North Carolina) they (NCAA) get a swift kick in the rear.

Exactly.Either give the NCAA real power, or disband the investigative arm. Unless you have means to make people talk, it's pointless and you can't get to the bottom of cases all the time.Just like Auburn and Scam Newton. All they had to do was deny, deny, deny and if no one squeals...case over.

Those guys down on the plains know it's about to get bad, really bad. Bruce Pearl will be the next head coach that gets swallowed by this thing. You can't tell me he didn't know. They're big commit for 2018 already decommitted.

BTW, Louisville's entire 2018 class has decommitted. Since none of them may end up being eligible, it may not matter.

Those guys down on the plains know it's about to get bad, really bad. Bruce Pearl will be the next head coach that gets swallowed by this thing. You can't tell me he didn't know. They're big commit for 2018 already decommitted.

BTW, Louisville's entire 2018 class has decommitted. Since none of them may end up being eligible, it may not matter.

Ah...again, back to Scam Newton, as I recall that didn't affect his eligibility.Seems the player has to KNOW shenanigans are going on for it to affect his eligibility. Again, all he has to do is deny, deny, deny.I hate Auburn. One of the dirtiest programs in NCAA history.This is the only time you will ever hear me say I 'hate' somebody. I don't hate you if you beat me 50 times in a row. As long as I think it's honest, I can live with it. If I don't think someone is playing by the rules, and routinely, then my opinion changes.

Ah...again, back to Scam Newton, as I recall that didn't affect his eligibility.Seems the player has to KNOW shenanigans are going on for it to affect his eligibility. Again, all he has to do is deny, deny, deny.I hate Auburn. One of the dirtiest programs in NCAA history.

This isn't like Scam Newton. The FBI has the players moms on recordings accepting $10,000 and $7,500. No one could ever get the solid goods on Newton's old man.

I wouldn't argue much with that, except for the person it was(the chancellor's daughter) made it look terrible.

But that defense has never worked. It didn't work for Arkansas in the 90s. (the Springdale CC thing was part of it too then I think)

UNC can make the same argument. it was a singular act of one professor setting up bogus classes to help athletes.

Louisville can and did make the same claim about the strippers. It was a 'rogue' assistant doing all this.

Whether it's true or not, it doesn't usually fly as a plausible excuse.

I, personally, think the UNC case is pretty brazen academic fraud and I couldn't care one whit if it was one person, or 20. They should be punished fairly hard.Louisville, same thing. One assistant, or goes up the chain to Pitino, doesn't matter. It happened, and they should be punished.Likewise, Arkansas no matter how/when/why it happened, they deserved some kind of punishment. I'm sure fans of other schools were probably wishing it was more severe.

Something worked because Adebayo was awarded additional eligibility because our program was so "dirty".

Pate lost his eligibility as a result, but that would be the only punishment after the original findings were reviewed. Pretty remarkable given the scope of the search and that the reason for the letter of inquiry was found to be without merit completely after the appeal.

There are idiots that give players money today. It's an infraction of course but it's not school sponsored either. It's weirdos that seek out access to kids because they have a sort of celebrity. That happens at the smallest of schools if you can imagine. The NCAA knows this and realize it's not the kind of thing that can actually be stopped but they can't say it's ok either.

Point being that trying to equivocate all infractions as cheating is a futile action given the ncaa has tiers for seriousness of charges in their own guidelines.

Does anyone else find it amazing that a guy named Marty Blazer, a Pittsburg PA financial adviser, is the one who turned evidence and went undercover to blow the lid off this basketball thing? And a guy named Chuck Blazer is the guy who was the informant that blew up FIFA and most of organized soccer.

Does anyone else find it amazing that a guy named Marty Blazer, a Pittsburg PA financial adviser, is the one who turned evidence and went undercover to blow the lid off this basketball thing? And a guy named Chuck Blazer is the guy who was the informant that blew up FIFA and most of organized soccer.