Lisp Developers (Lisp? Really? Yes. Lisp.) Posted 18 Oct 2008

If you intend to complete the unpaid test (mentioned below) within 10 days from when you post your bid and if you request that we provide you with a user name and password, then we will provide you with a user name and password so that you can upload your completed unpaid test to our development server.

For example, you may simply copy, paste, and respond to us with the following, &quot;I intend to complete the unpaid test within 10 days. Therefore, please provide me with the user name and password so that I can upload the results of the unpaid test to your development server.&quot;

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Rate and Hours

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We will pay each developer $1500- $2200 for working 200 hours per month. That is 7.50 US dollars to 11 US dollars per hour.

Please do not bid for this project if you require a higher rate.

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Overview

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We are currently looking for 1 or 2 or 3 very clever, full-time software application developers (not mere coders) to work with us 200 hours per month for at least a year but hopefully longer.

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Paid in Advance (Huh? Really?)

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Except for the initial “10 Hour Probationary Period” (see below) we will pay you in advance for hours your work.

What? Is that a joke? Nope. Typically we start out paying folks for just a few hours and then gradually increase the number of hours. It's no joke. Check our feedback on GetAFreelancer. We normally pay folks for 4 to 8 hours in advance.

Why? Because it works. It makes folks we work with very comfortable and actually is much less hassle for us in the long run.

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Work whichever hours of the day you prefer

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We will permit you to work any hours of the day you prefer. In other words, we do not care which hours of the day you work.

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What a long advertisement!

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We've received lots of questions and had a lot of problems. We add the answers to the questions and problems to this advertisement. We believe strongly that, &quot;An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.&quot;

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Unpaid Test

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Please review the attachment we have uploaded to this project.

We have found that most candidates who apply for jobs on GetAFreelancer are either not really serious (perhaps they are upset with their boss and “Internet dreaming” about a better job somewhere &quot;out there&quot;) or or not sufficiently talented (such as, the vast majority of PHP coders). To quickly and easily weed out these candidates we have a simple sample test that you must complete in Lisp (yes, Lisp) to apply for this job.

We will not merely verify that the solution you to submit works properly but we will also carefully judge the quality of your code.

If we judge that you have passed this unpaid test, then you will advance to the “10 Hour Probationary Period”

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Steel Bank Common Lisp (SBCL)

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You must develop software for us using Steel Bank Common Lisp (SBCL) [url removed, login to view] Our development server runs Apache and mod_lisp.

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But I don't have any Lisp experience?!?

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Of course, we assume you have practically no experience developing with Lisp. We know that very, very few developers use Lisp. Therefore, we recommend you review &quot;Practical Common Lisp&quot; [url removed, login to view] and &quot;Common Lisp HyperSpec&quot;

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Lisp? Why Lisp?

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Why did we choose Lisp? Isn't Lisp almost, well, almost a dead language? Sort of. We realize that Lisp is hardly used in software development except by a very small group of elite software developers. We chose Lisp for one simple reason: we believe it is the best tool available for building most of the software we need. In other words, we think Lisp is a great language. If you study Lisp we suspect you'll think it's a great language too.

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Are you sure you want to use Lisp? Really?

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Yes. We did not inadvertently or naively choose Lisp. Not at all. We very carefully weighed the pros and cons of various languages and chose to use Lisp.

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If you prefer to use Java or .NET

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If you prefer to use Java or .NET then you definitely should not apply for this job. We do not like those languages at all. We feel strongly that those languages are like diseases. However, we do not mind if you currently develop in one of those languages and, like a refugee from a war zone, are seeking to escape.

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If you prefer to use Perl, Python, and Ruby on Rails

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Even though we like and respect Perl, Python, and Ruby on Rails, if you prefer to use one of these languages then you should not apply for this job either. We know Perl is for the old-timers, Python is what they use at Google, and that &quot;all the cool kids&quot; these days use Ruby on Rails.

We are not trying to be &quot;old school&quot; [url removed, login to view] by using Perl or to be like Google by using Python or to be cool (dude) by using Ruby and Rails. No. We are attempting to develop great software.

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Clever and Eager Autodidacts Wanted

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You must be willing to teach yourself Steel Bank Common Lisp. We will *not* pay for you to learn Steel Bank Common Lisp. You must currently have a *reliable* high speed Internet connection (DSL, Cable, T-1, etc).

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Employee Benefits? None. Zero.

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We will provide you with no benefits whatsoever. No medical benefits. No paid holidays. Nothing. But we will pay all fees you will be assessed to receive your money, such as fees charged by GetAFreelancer and ATM machine fees.

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Taxes?

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We will not withhold any taxes from your compensation whatsoever nor will we report your earnings to you local tax authorities. That will be your responsibility alone.

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10 Hour Probationary Period

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If we judge that you have passed our &quot;Unpaid Test&quot; (described above) then we will assign you one 2 hour project which you must complete and submit to us within 24 hours (not including Saturdays and Sundays) . Therefore, if we assign a project to you on Friday, you will not need to complete and submit to us until Monday.

If we are satisfied with how you have performed then we will assign you a second two hour project which you must complete and submit to us within 24 hours (not including Saturdays and Sundays).

If we are again satisfied with how you have performed we will repeat this process three more times until you have completed five such two hour assignments.

If we are satisfied with how you have performed then we will pay you for 10 hours in the amount of 5% of your monthly rate for 200 hours and then you will advance to the 50 day probationary period.

However, if we are *not* satisfied with how you have performed then we will *not* pay you any monies whatsoever for the 10 hours you have worked and we will terminate our relationship with you.

In other words, we require that you work 10 hours for us yet risk receiving no compensation whatsoever. Therefore, if you are not willing to risk working 10 hours for free, you should not apply for this job.

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After the 10 Hour Probationary Period

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We will pay you *in advance* for all hours you work. Really? In advance? Yes. Really. If you are incredulous please check our feedback here on GetAFreelancer. We are not joking about this.

You *must* sign, scan, and convey to us via the Internet, our NDA (non-disclosure agreement). Of course we would provide you copy of our NDA for you to review if we are interested in working with you.

You *must* scan and convey to us via the Internet copy of your national identification, passport, or similar document. To protect your privacy, you may redact (obfuscate) the document number such as the national identification number or passport number.

&quot;Huh? Why do you need that information? Are you trying to steal my identity!&quot; No.

Of course many folks seem to immediately worry about this sort of thing. Take a look at your passport or national identification card. If you cover over the document number, what's left? A photo of you your name, your address, your gender, and your birthday.

We want this information because if you work with us then you will be gradually create more and more valuable intellectual property for us. Therefore, we want to be able to verify you identity so that we can sue you in a court of law in the event you steal our intellectual property. Doesn't that make sense?

If you are unwilling to provide us with this information or any information we require, please do *not* apply to work with us.

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The 50 calendar day probationary period following the 10 hour probationary period

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During the 50 calendar day probationary period following the 10 hour probationary period, we will allow you to work as few as an average of 50 hours each month but may allow you to work up an average of 200 hours per month. In other words, after the 10 hour probationary period we may allow you to begin working full-time with us.

However, we will not require you to begin working full-time during this 50 day period. Why? Because we realize you may currently, for example, have a full-time job which you probably don't like, but at least your current salary &quot;pays your bills.&quot;

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After the 50 calendar day probationary period you must be available to work 200 hours per month

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However, after this 50 calendar day probationary period, we will require you to work 200 hours each month with us. Therefore, if you currently have a full-time job or other commitments which would interfere with you working 200 hours each month with us, then after you complete the 50 day probationary period you will almost certainly need to cease working at your current job and/or abandon your other commitments.

In other words, after the 50 calendar day probationary period we are not interested in working with you on a part-time basis. We are only willing to work with you on a part-time basis until you complete the 50 calendar day probationary period so that both you and we may become confident that we should work together on a full-time basis. Please do not apply for this job unless you are willing to work 200 hours each month with us after you complete the 50 calendar day probationary period.

In other words, we realize that many software developers reviewing the opportunities on GetAFreelancer are looking for part-time work. After all, this website is called GetAFreelancer not GetAnEmployee. However, if you are looking for a &quot;side job&quot; or some part-time work to supplement your current income and are therefore hoping to work, say, 50 to 100 hours per month, then please do not apply for this job. We are only interested in working with candidates who will be willing to work 200 hours each month with us after they complete the initial 50 calendar day period.

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What about Vacations?

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We do not provide any benefits whatsoever. None. Zero. Nothing. Of course we know you'll take vacations. Immediately below we describe how you would not be paid for vacations you take.

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Hours per Month

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We would allow you to work more 200 hours per month. For example, if you were to work 250 hours in one month, then you'd be paid for 250 hours. Of course, if, say, you were to take a vacation and therefore only worked 50 hours in a particular month, then you'd only be paid for 50 hours for that month. To determine your hourly rate we will simply divide your monthly rate by 200.

However, except when you are sick or go on vacation, you must be willing to work 200 hours per month. And no, you may not take 4 or 5 &quot;vacations&quot; per month in order to work, say, 75 hours per month so that you can keep your current full-time job, stay in school, fulfill your military service, etc. You must be willing to normally work 200 hours per month.

If you work more than 200 hours per month we'll pay you more, but if you work less more than 200 hours per month we'll pay you less. We are not a paternalistic organization. We won't &quot;take care of you.&quot; We are interested in a simple and straightforward contractual relationship in which we pay you for each hour you work and in which you commit to work an average of 200 hours/month (except for those months when you take unpaid vacations or unpaid sick days).

If you want a job with any sort of typical benefits such as paid vacations, medical care, retirement pensions, etcetera this is not the job for you. We are going to pay you strictly by the hour. If this approach seems too brutal or callous or unforgiving we suggest you get a &quot;regular&quot; job with a &quot;regular&quot; company.

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