Just because he didn't win them (again, consider his opponent) doesn't mean he doesn't have sway with them. McCain-Santorum vs. Obama-Biden would be nothing like Santorum vs. Casey. Obama-Biden doesn't have the type of appeal that the Casey name has with white, blue collar, Catholic voters.

While I disagree that this voting block we've argued over is as organized as you've made them out to be, when you lose an election by 17+ points, it stands to reason you've alienated just about every voting block there is. Don't get me wrong; I wouldn't have expected Rick to beat Casey but I would've figured he'd come closer than 17+points.

I never said they were 100% pro choice dumbass. But guess what a lot of them are. That is their issue, women's rights. Many of these Hillary supporters who are hesitant to go over to Obama's side are basically democrat on most issues, but for some reason felt Obama was given preferential treatment. They feel as if Hillary was not chosen because she was a woman. Democrats can win without winning blue collar catholics by decent margins, but they certainly cannot win when women don't vote with their usual high margins for democrats. There is a chance Mccain can pull away a lot of these moderate women voters, but he will not do it with Santorum. Anyways as I have said I would absolutely love for Santorum to be the pick.

While I disagree that this voting block we've argued over is as organized as you've made them out to be, when you lose an election by 17+ points, it stands to reason you've alienated just about every voting block there is. Don't get me wrong; I wouldn't have expected Rick to beat Casey but I would've figured he'd come closer than 17+points.

I think Santorum would be disaster for McCain amongst these voters.

I really have no idea how you can believe that "white, blue collar, Catholic voters" aren't a major, organized group especially in a state like PA. I really don't understand that. But, hey, whatever.

Oh, ok! So the comment about them being Pro Choice or actually voting Republican meant what exactly?

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But guess what a lot of them are. That is their issue, women's rights. Many of these Hillary supporters who are hesitant to go over to Obama's side are basically democrat on most issues, but for some reason felt Obama was given preferential treatment. They feel as if Hillary was not chosen because she was a woman. Democrats can win without winning blue collar catholics by decent margins, but they certainly cannot win when women don't vote with their usual high margins for democrats.

I'm not expecting to win Hillary's original base (her personal fan club). However, plenty of blue collar, populist types that would have been huge for Edwards ended up going for her over Obama. They might not be the Hillary fanatics but they consider themselves more loyal to Hillary than Obama. Right now, a lot of them don't have a candidate to back. Let's see what happens.

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Anyways as I have said I would absolutely love for Santorum to be the pick.

Well congratulations are certainly on the order for jmfct. Not only did he have the common sense to understand Santorum would be a bad pick but he also guessed right that it would be Palin. Well done sir.