In the Bronx, where Harry lived most of his life. Forget Delancey Street - if Harry or his family ever lived there it would have been before 1910.

The store is quite close to one of Harry's addresses and although I don't have any further details, some of the Gellers connected with the store have a dancing and acting background.

As I said at the beginning of my previous post "I've not seen any further significant items". I include the Geller/Gelly information merely for the sake of completeness. At present I do not not see it as a significant item.

I wouldn't expect that a picture will be found in the cemetery records and I've not seen any photos on the internet or family tree sites such as ancestry.com.

Some of Harry's relatives will have a photo and if Harry's son Simeon is to be believed Harry was a frequent guest speaker for the BBC on the Roaring Twenties and Thirties. There may be archive footage but Simeon may be confusing him with another Harry Grey who was a successful composer, musician and producer.

Harry was not a high profile gangster but if he was ever arrested or did anything noteworthy, local newspapers may have published a picture. If the Harry Goldberg mentioned in Abe Shoenfeld's report is our Harry, there may be a photo in the Jewish Archives.

From Frayling's 'Something To Do With Death' and his videos, I get the impression that Frayling has seen a photo. It's possibly another avenue to explore.

We already have Leone's own description of Harry in Simsolo's Conversations avec Sergio Leone "He reminded me of Edward G. Robinson. The same style: small, stocky, bull neck, hair and very white skin as rosy as that of a baby. Handsome, truly handsome."

Whilst it may be good to see a photo, my main interest is the true story of Harry's life. In my opinion 'The Hoods' is a fictionalized partial autobiography and whilst it may be based on real events, the description of some of those events is not wholly accurate and the description of Harry's involvement in many of them is probably not true. This does not mean that Harry led a crime free life.

You mean BBC tv or radio?According to STDWD, Leone said Goldberg wanted secrecy. (Maybe some gangsters were still looking for him all these years later, if he really did rat out that booze shipment?)If that's the case, I find it hard to believe he would go on BBC and let everyone see what he looked like. On the other hand, Frayling does say Grey had publicity photos (maybe those were taken years earlier?) so who knows.....

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My above posts are a sort of "by the way" to anyone who wants to see Grey's photo. Personally - while it may be interesting to know the real story of the real Noodles, and I'd take a glance at his pic if anyone found it - I have no real interest in seeing it or making any attempt to find it.I have no fascination or admiration for a guy who was a thief and murderer (at worst; and/or a liar at best). I love the movie, but not the real-life Grey; if he actually did half the things he said he did, he is the scum of the earth.

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Good idea but of course HG you are the one who most wants to see a photo. I know when I've raised the subject previously you have said that you have no expertise in these matters but none of us are research experts and you know a lot more about Jewish culture and history than I do.

If you are serious about wanting a photo, you need to take some action yourself, do a few searches and write a few emails and letters. Or just forget about it in the hope that at some future date someone else will make public the items you want to see.

There are some photographs in the Abe Shoenfeld papers but he was probably more into writing vignettes. A starting point for accessing part of Shoenfeld's papers would be to contact http://www.ajhs.org regarding accessing procedures and there are some additional details at http://findingaids.cjh.org/?pID=611930.

Harry Grey is an American writer. His first novel, 'The Hoods', published in 1952, inspired the famous Sergio Leone film 'Once Upon a Time in America' (1984). The book is a sort of autobiography, inspired by the author's personal past in the world of crime. After 'The Hoods' Harry Grey published two other novels, 'Call Me Duke' (1955) and 'Portrait of a Mobster' (1958), which, however, have enjoyed less success.

I didn't hear any moaning, so I guess the aforementioned Mr. H. Goldberg has upped and left these boards (maybe cuz he had no further benefit here after a certain someone told him he was no longer doing HG's searches for him)

So, lucky for everyone, no blue balls for Harry. Of course, he can still the jar

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I've had this book for like 6 years and finally finished reading it. If it had been adapted accurately, chances are it'd be a shitty, generic 1950's gangster movie. Thankfully, Leone & screenwriting crew only kept in the sex scenes (all the sex scenes) and some of the names and made the greatest movie of all time.