John Lohmeyer, the T10 Chair, called the meeting to order at 1:30 p.m., Thursday November 6, 2008. He thanked Curtis Stevens of Western Digital for hosting the meeting.

John said that INCITS subgroup membership forms and the T10 document subscription forms are available on the meeting web site. He said that people should use these forms to ensure the INCITS Secretariat has the latest membership information. These forms should be mailed directly to the INCITS Secretariat.

As is customary, the people attending introduced themselves. Attendance See Meeting Attendees. was taken electronically via the meeting web site.

2. Approval of Agenda

No additions/changes were made to the draft agenda.

John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the agenda be approved. In the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.

The following items were added or modified in the agenda during the course of the meeting:

none

3. Attendance and Membership

The membership requirements were reviewed. INCITS rules permit one vote per organization. An individual from a new organization must attend two out of three consecutive plenary meetings. He/she may apply for voting membership the second meeting via a letter to the Chair of T10. The individual may begin voting at the beginning of his/her second meeting. People who continue to attend T10 meetings are expected to join T10 and to pay INCITS Service Fees.

To maintain membership, organizations must pay the INCITS Service Fee ($1200 per year).

There are also minimum attendance requirements to maintain voting membership on T10. If a member organization fails to attend two of the last three T10 meetings, they are warned that failing to attend the next T10 meeting would result in their membership being terminated.

The Chair said he had sent e-mails to 2 people from 1 organization informing them that the organization's membership was in jeopardy due to non-attendance (see 08-385r0) and that their membership would be terminated if they did not attend this meeting. The following organization was in attendance jeopardy:

Symantec Corporation

All organizations in attendance jeopardy were present.

Had any organizations not been present, their membership would have been changed to Advisory (non-voting) status.

John called for requests to join the committee. No organizations joined at this meeting.

The T10 membership during the meeting was 33 organizations, unchanged from the 33 member organizations extant at the time the meeting was convened. Enclosure (1) is the list of the people present at the meeting and enclosure (3) is the current T10 membership list.

John Lohmeyer reminded members that failure to vote on two out of the last three letter ballots also would result in membership jeopardy. Accelerated and personnel letter ballots are not included in letter ballot jeopardy calculations.

John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the minutes be approved as written. In the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.

5. Document Distribution

John Lohmeyer noted that in September Dal Allan had recommended that T10 and T11 end their practice of mailing CDs to people on a subscription basis. The web sites contain more timely information and very few people subscribe to the committee mailings.

John noted that he plans to create `mailing' ZIP files on the T10 web site that will be available in the T10 members area. This area is accessible using the new t10member FTP account. To get the current password for this account, use the web form to have your personal T10 password sent to you by email.

John Lohmeyer moved that T10 discontinue T10 mailings and that T10 rescind its document retention policy in 98-107r1. Roger Cummings seconded the motion. John noted that INCITS has a document retention policy in the RD-2, Section 4.5, that makes T10/98-107r1 unnecessary. In the absence of objections, the motion passed unanimously.

John Lohmeyer took an action item to notify INCITS that T10 has rescinded its document retention policy and intends to follow the INCITS document retention policy.

John noted that the effect of this change is that T10 mailings will still be prepared in the form of ZIP files, and they will be placed on the t10 web site. However, the mailings will not actually be mailed to individuals.

John Lohmeyer requested that all documents for the next mailing be uploaded to the T10 web site by 10:30 a.m. Mountain time on Thursday November 13, 2008. Documents received after this time may go into a subsequent mailing.

John reminded the committee of the requirements for document submission. Since T10 meets its document retention requirements by delivering mailings to INCITS, documents included in the mailing must be suitable for archiving. This means that Portable Document Format (PDF) and/or native-format electronic originals with proper identification must be submitted.

People can obtain T10 document numbers for new and revised T10 documents by filling out a web form at http://www.t10.org/members/. The assigned T10 document number will be sent to the requestor by e-mail. The requestor may then reply to this e-mail, including the document to be posted as an attachment. The document will be automatically posted on the T10 web site.

T10 members can complete this entire process using their personal T10 password. John explained that members who do not know their password should surf to the above URL and click on the "forgot password" link to have their password sent to them via e-mail.

John noted that non-members can also use the above document number process, but their requests will require approval by an administrator.

Minutes are available on the T10 World Wide Web page (see below).

To be added to the T10 Reflector, send an e-mail to majordomo@t10.org with the line 'subscribe t10' in the message body.

The INCITS Secretariat maintains a World Wide Web page at:

http://www.incits.org/.

LSI Corp. maintains a web site on behalf of T10 on a server donated by the SCSI Trade Association at:

John Lohmeyer explained that this is a regular agenda item to identify any potential patent issues with developing standards and technical reports.

For additional information on ANSI procedures and the ANSI patent policy, please see the INCITS web page at http://www.incits.org/call.htm. Questions about this policy are to be referred to the participant's legal counsel or the ANSI General Counsel. The Chair showed the "three slides" from the INCITS pat_slides.pdf. No interpretation or explanation of the ISO/IEC/ITU patent policy was provided. The Chair noted that these slides and the patent declaration form are available on the INCITS web site at:

http://www.incits.org/call.htm

The Chair issued a call for patents.

John noted that he had received two patent statements since the last meeting: 08-399r0 contains a patent statement from IBM regarding SPC-4, and 08-400r0 contains a patent statement from Microsoft regarding SBC-3.

Mark Seidel reminded the committee that a statement of the Intel patent policy can be found in T10/01-041r0.

There were no other responses to the call for patents other than those mentioned above.

7. Review of Old Action Items

722 John Lohmeyer will conduct a Letter Ballot on forwarding FCP-4 r01. Complete.

724 John Lohmeyer will forward 08-331r1 to INCITS as a project proposal for OSD-3. Complete.

725 John Lohmeyer will notify INCITS that T10 recommends the reaffirmation of SCSI-2, OSD, SMC-2, and SBP-3. Complete.

8. Project Status Reports

8.1 Project Status Summary and INCITS Liaison [Lohmeyer]

John Lohmeyer said that the current T10 project status summary was included on the meeting web site and will be included in the mailing as usual.

8.1.1 INCITS Antitrust Guidelines

All T10 members should be aware of the INCITS antitrust guidelines available at http://www.incits.org/inatrust.htm.

John reminded committee members that all persons present at a T10 meeting are responsible for identifying potential violations of the antitrust guidelines and reporting them to the Chair. Discussions of the following topics are considered sensitive:

· Any company's prices or pricing policies;

· Specific R&D, sales and marketing plans;

· Any company's confidential product, product development or production strategies;

· Whether certain suppliers or customers will be served;

· Prices paid to input sources; or

· Complaints about individual firms or other actions that might tend to hinder a competitor in any market.

John Lohmeyer reported that SES-2 is now at INCITS letter ballot for approval. It closes November 7th. It then goes to ANSI for approval and publication. George Penokie said that he had received an email pointing out a defect in SES-2. This will likely result in a project proposal for an SES-3 project.

Ralph Weber reported that as of the beginning of the week only nine comments remained open on the OSD-2 letter ballot (08-380r2). Two of those were resolved by the CAP working group (minutes in 08-429r1). He noted that OSD-2 should be ready for forwarding to public review in January.

Rob Elliott moved that 08-212r8 be approved as resolving the letter ballot comments on SAS-2 and that SAS-2 revision 15, which incorporates the comment resolutions, be forwarded to INCITS for further processing toward first public review. Mark Evans seconded the motion. The motion passed on a vote of 25:0:0:8:=33, thus meeting the Two-Thirds Rule.

Based on the successful resolution of the letter ballot comments, the following people requested that their original No votes on the SAS-2 letter ballot be changed to Yes:

Rob Elliott, Hewlett Packard Co.

Kevin Butt, IBM Corp. (by email)

Mark Seidel, Intel

John Lohmeyer, LSI Corp.

Tim Symons, PMC-Sierra

Gerry Houlder, Seagate Technology

Mark Evans, Western Digital Corporation

Rob Elliott took an action item to prepare SAS-2 revision 15. John Lohmeyer took an action item to forward SAS-2 revision 15 to INCITS for further processing toward first public review.

In the absence of Mark Overby, John Lohmeyer reported that SAT-2 working group meetings were held October 20 in Santa Clara, CA (minutes in 08-419r0) and November 4 in Santa Ana, CA (minutes in 08-428r0). Letter comment resolution was the primary topic of the meetings. Bill Martin noted that there will be no SAT-2 meeting in December.

Bill McFerrin reported on the activities of MMC-6 working group (minutes in 08-456r0). The working group accepted its last new technical input. Obsoleting unused features has been a major activity lately.

Curtis Stevens moved that 08-374r1 and 08-344r2 be approved for inclusion in the SAT-2 letter ballot comment resolution. Bill Martin seconded the motion. In the absence of objections, the motion passed unanimously.

11.4 Actions on CAP Working Group Recommendations

Mark Evans reviewed the following proposals recommended for inclusion in SPC-4:

Curtis Stevens moved that 08-263r3 and 08-346r2 be approved for inclusion in SPC-4; that 08-282r3 be approved for inclusion in UAS; and that 08-450r1 be approved for inclusion in the T10 Style Guide. Kevin Marks seconded the motion. In the absence of objections, the motion passed unanimously.

For more information about T10 activities, please contact the following people:

Activity

Contact

Telephone/Email

ADT-2, ADC-2, ADC-3

Paul Stone

(949) 725-1874

paul dot stone at quantum dot com

SES-2, SAS-1.1, SAS-2

Rob Elliott

(281) 518-5037

Elliott at hp dot com

SAS-2.1

Alvin Cox

(405) 381-8067

alvin dot cox at seagate dot com

SBC-3

Mark Evans

(409) 363-5257

mark dot evans at wdc dot com

MMC-5, MMC-6

Bill McFerrin

(325) 423-1560

billmc37 at ctesc dot net

SBP-3

Peter Johansson

(510) 527-3926

PJohansson at ACM dot org

SAM-4, SBC-3, SPL

George Penokie

(507) 328-9017

george dot penokie at lsi dot com

SAT-2, SAT-3

Mark Overby

(425) 417-9412

moverby at nvidia dot com

SMC-3

Noud Snelder

+31408446108

Noud dot snelder at bdt dot de

SAM-3, SPC-4, OSD-2, OSD-3

Ralph Weber

(214) 912-1373

roweber at acm dot org

SSC-3, SSC-4, FCP-3, FCP-4

Dave Peterson

(763) 268-6139

david dot peterson at brocade dot com

UAS

Curtis Stevens

(949) 672-7933

curtis dot stevens at wdc dot com

Other Activities

John Lohmeyer

(719) 533-7560

lohmeyer at t10 dot org

The long-term T10 meeting week schedule is:

Dates

Location

Host / Comments

Sep 8-12, 2008

Colorado Springs, CO

LSI Corp.

Nov 3-7, 2008

Santa Ana, CA

Western Digital

Jan 12-16, 2009

Orlando, FL

Symantec

Mar 16-20, 2009

Oklahoma City, OK

Fujitsu

May 4-8, 2009

Bellevue, WA

Microsoft Corp.

Jul 13-17, 2009

Colorado Springs, CO

LSI Corp.

Sep 14-18, 2009

Boston, MA

EMC Corp.

Nov 9-13, 2009

Las Vegas, NV

Hitachi GST

Jan 11-15, 2010

Santa Ana, CA

Western Digital

Mar 8-12, 2010

San Jose, CA

Finisar

May 3-7, 2010

Bellevue, WA

Microsoft

Jul 12-16, 2010

Colorado Springs, CO

LSI Corp.

Sep 13-17, 2010

Nov 8-12, 2010

NOTE: Dates, locations, and hosts shown above in
red italic font
have not been approved by T10 yet and are subject to change.

John Lohmeyer asked people interested hosting one of the above meetings to contact him.

14.1 Authorization of Working Group Meetings

John noted that the working group meetings are required to operate under the same voting procedures as does T10 (that is, one vote per organization) and the results of a working group are not binding on the parent committee. Working groups should strive to achieve consensus prior to bringing issues to T10.

Bill Martin moved that T10 authorize the T10-related meetings and events in the list above that had not previously been approved. Roger Cummings seconded the motion. In the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously.

15. Adjournment

John Lohmeyer moved and Ralph Weber seconded that the meeting be adjourned. In the absence of any objections, the motion passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 2:47 p.m. on Thursday November 6, 2008.