Suspected arson attack at derelict Cattle Market pub

A DERELICT pub just outside the town centre has been set alight in a suspected arson attack.

Fire crews were scrambled to The Cattle Market in Orlando Street at 2.17am this morning after the fire broke out in a back room attached to the main building.

Firefighters said the blaze was well alight when they arrived, although nobody was hurt.

The Cattle Market, which closed early last year, is understood to be owned by Aishmany LLP, who have already served the council with notice of their intention to demolish the building, before erecting a six-storey office block in its place.

Firefighters spent about an hour tackling the blaze and Bolton Central crew manager Dave Barnett said the fire could have been intentionally lit.

He said: "One of the back rooms, where it looked as though glasses and barrels used to be kept. was well alight when we arrived.

“We had a big jet on it for an hour or so. The pub was wide open when we arrived and a few of the boards on windows were missing.

"The fire has got out of control It is not safe for people to go breaking into boarded-up buildings."

Police said they were not called to the scene, however, and no investigation has yet been started.

Bolton Council was not asked to go to the pub but it has been notified that the owners propose to demolish the building.

Aishmany LLP, based on the Mikar Business Park in Northolt Drive, Bolton, submitted a demolition notice to Bolton Council, and the council responded on July 31, listing conditions.

Planning permission was given on August 21 for the pub to be turned into an office block, complete with retail and restaurant outlets and on-site parking.

The owner of neighbouring business AA Performance, who asked not to be named, said he believed the Cattle Market was due to be knocked down on September 8.

He added that the fire set off the alarm on his premises at about 2.30am.

Mr Barnett added that he believes the building’s demolition is being brought forward as a result of the fire.

The Cattle Market is thought to date back to the 1860s and was originally known as The Spotted Cow.

It was a popular pre-match hostelry for Bolton Wanderers fans when the club was based at Burnden Park.

Comments

When was that part of Orlando Street (at the junction of Orlando Bridge) ever part of the town centre?

When was that part of Orlando Street (at the junction of Orlando Bridge) ever part of the town centre?nigella farrage

When was that part of Orlando Street (at the junction of Orlando Bridge) ever part of the town centre?

Score: 0

John Edwards
12:36pm Wed 3 Sep 14

Not another derelict building on fire, hopefully next it will be Bradshawgate up to Great Moor Street. That area is so bad I don't think it would burn. Bolton will be worse than the blitz before long. Mind you, it's been systematically destroyed by the council so a little more won't go amiss.

Not another derelict building on fire, hopefully next it will be Bradshawgate up to Great Moor Street. That area is so bad I don't think it would burn. Bolton will be worse than the blitz before long. Mind you, it's been systematically destroyed by the council so a little more won't go amiss.John Edwards

Not another derelict building on fire, hopefully next it will be Bradshawgate up to Great Moor Street. That area is so bad I don't think it would burn. Bolton will be worse than the blitz before long. Mind you, it's been systematically destroyed by the council so a little more won't go amiss.

Score: 28

marco999
1:42pm Wed 3 Sep 14

Kerching..

Kerching..marco999

Kerching..

Score: -2

mr.mark.c
2:37pm Wed 3 Sep 14

nigella farrage wrote…

When was that part of Orlando Street (at the junction of Orlando Bridge) ever part of the town centre?

It's expanding ;)
AKA, stop being picky just for the sake of it.

[quote][p][bold]nigella farrage[/bold] wrote:
When was that part of Orlando Street (at the junction of Orlando Bridge) ever part of the town centre?[/p][/quote]It's expanding ;)
AKA, stop being picky just for the sake of it.mr.mark.c

nigella farrage wrote…

When was that part of Orlando Street (at the junction of Orlando Bridge) ever part of the town centre?

It's expanding ;)
AKA, stop being picky just for the sake of it.

Score: 4

roadsweeper
3:33pm Wed 3 Sep 14

What a shame, I had many good nights in there when I was a student! 99p for a pint of Bentley and a man used to come in selling seafood! Good times!

What a shame, I had many good nights in there when I was a student! 99p for a pint of Bentley and a man used to come in selling seafood! Good times!roadsweeper

What a shame, I had many good nights in there when I was a student! 99p for a pint of Bentley and a man used to come in selling seafood! Good times!

Score: 18

Tim Burr
6:27pm Wed 3 Sep 14

Reality50 wrote…

Great pub and surprised it shut,as its next door to a student block. They should have made it into a student type pub but they never really bothered. Second pub in a week to have alleged arson,as the Gibraltar Rock had same last week,i read.

It's been a Spar shop for a good few years.! It was the next one along, the Cross Guns.

RE the Cattle Market, it was pointless trying to torch it as it was coming down anyway. A group of us used to go in a couple of times a month - when it was announced it was closing, one of the lads enquired to buy it but as usual, the pub co had a monopoly money price tag for a building which even then needed a fortune spending on it.

[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote:
Great pub and surprised it shut,as its next door to a student block. They should have made it into a student type pub but they never really bothered. Second pub in a week to have alleged arson,as the Gibraltar Rock had same last week,i read.[/p][/quote]It's been a Spar shop for a good few years.! It was the next one along, the Cross Guns.
RE the Cattle Market, it was pointless trying to torch it as it was coming down anyway. A group of us used to go in a couple of times a month - when it was announced it was closing, one of the lads enquired to buy it but as usual, the pub co had a monopoly money price tag for a building which even then needed a fortune spending on it.Tim Burr

Reality50 wrote…

Great pub and surprised it shut,as its next door to a student block. They should have made it into a student type pub but they never really bothered. Second pub in a week to have alleged arson,as the Gibraltar Rock had same last week,i read.

It's been a Spar shop for a good few years.! It was the next one along, the Cross Guns.

RE the Cattle Market, it was pointless trying to torch it as it was coming down anyway. A group of us used to go in a couple of times a month - when it was announced it was closing, one of the lads enquired to buy it but as usual, the pub co had a monopoly money price tag for a building which even then needed a fortune spending on it.

Score: 15

Reality50
6:07pm Wed 3 Sep 14

Great pub and surprised it shut,as its next door to a student block. They should have made it into a student type pub but they never really bothered. Second pub in a week to have alleged arson,as the Gibraltar Rock had same last week,i read.

Great pub and surprised it shut,as its next door to a student block. They should have made it into a student type pub but they never really bothered. Second pub in a week to have alleged arson,as the Gibraltar Rock had same last week,i read.Reality50

Great pub and surprised it shut,as its next door to a student block. They should have made it into a student type pub but they never really bothered. Second pub in a week to have alleged arson,as the Gibraltar Rock had same last week,i read.

Score: 7

WHATAMESSS.66
7:16pm Wed 3 Sep 14

restaraunt with one table [ takeaway]

restaraunt with one table [ takeaway]WHATAMESSS.66

restaraunt with one table [ takeaway]

Score: 0

Reality50
9:11pm Wed 3 Sep 14

Tim Burr wrote…

Reality50 wrote…

Great pub and surprised it shut,as its next door to a student block. They should have made it into a student type pub but they never really bothered. Second pub in a week to have alleged arson,as the Gibraltar Rock had same last week,i read.

It's been a Spar shop for a good few years.! It was the next one along, the Cross Guns.

RE the Cattle Market, it was pointless trying to torch it as it was coming down anyway. A group of us used to go in a couple of times a month - when it was announced it was closing, one of the lads enquired to buy it but as usual, the pub co had a monopoly money price tag for a building which even then needed a fortune spending on it.

True,it has always been run down and tatty,as long as i've known it. There are so few pubs in that area nowadays,from the Cattle Market onwards to the old Flying Shuttle. All 3 pubs near Burnden have gone since the Wanderers left the area,as has the Monteraze,near Green Lane and Church Inn and Shuttle at Farnworth. Basically there is the Brooklyn and Southfields and that's it.

[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote:
Great pub and surprised it shut,as its next door to a student block. They should have made it into a student type pub but they never really bothered. Second pub in a week to have alleged arson,as the Gibraltar Rock had same last week,i read.[/p][/quote]It's been a Spar shop for a good few years.! It was the next one along, the Cross Guns.
RE the Cattle Market, it was pointless trying to torch it as it was coming down anyway. A group of us used to go in a couple of times a month - when it was announced it was closing, one of the lads enquired to buy it but as usual, the pub co had a monopoly money price tag for a building which even then needed a fortune spending on it.[/p][/quote]True,it has always been run down and tatty,as long as i've known it. There are so few pubs in that area nowadays,from the Cattle Market onwards to the old Flying Shuttle. All 3 pubs near Burnden have gone since the Wanderers left the area,as has the Monteraze,near Green Lane and Church Inn and Shuttle at Farnworth. Basically there is the Brooklyn and Southfields and that's it.Reality50

Tim Burr wrote…

Reality50 wrote…

Great pub and surprised it shut,as its next door to a student block. They should have made it into a student type pub but they never really bothered. Second pub in a week to have alleged arson,as the Gibraltar Rock had same last week,i read.

It's been a Spar shop for a good few years.! It was the next one along, the Cross Guns.

RE the Cattle Market, it was pointless trying to torch it as it was coming down anyway. A group of us used to go in a couple of times a month - when it was announced it was closing, one of the lads enquired to buy it but as usual, the pub co had a monopoly money price tag for a building which even then needed a fortune spending on it.

True,it has always been run down and tatty,as long as i've known it. There are so few pubs in that area nowadays,from the Cattle Market onwards to the old Flying Shuttle. All 3 pubs near Burnden have gone since the Wanderers left the area,as has the Monteraze,near Green Lane and Church Inn and Shuttle at Farnworth. Basically there is the Brooklyn and Southfields and that's it.

Score: 1

mr.mark.c
10:28pm Wed 3 Sep 14

Pubs that do not serve families in a modern clean way have had it these days, only a few of the old school pubs will survive.
Some say its the smoking ban (possible), some say its booze prices (we have had a recession), I say its the change in culture.
I have noticed that people prefer drinking at home with friends and maybe watch a movie while munching on a small buffet or takeaway.
As for students, they would get drunk first, take vodka out with them and just buy a bottle of coke between them.

Pubs that do not serve families in a modern clean way have had it these days, only a few of the old school pubs will survive.
Some say its the smoking ban (possible), some say its booze prices (we have had a recession), I say its the change in culture.
I have noticed that people prefer drinking at home with friends and maybe watch a movie while munching on a small buffet or takeaway.
As for students, they would get drunk first, take vodka out with them and just buy a bottle of coke between them.mr.mark.c

Pubs that do not serve families in a modern clean way have had it these days, only a few of the old school pubs will survive.
Some say its the smoking ban (possible), some say its booze prices (we have had a recession), I say its the change in culture.
I have noticed that people prefer drinking at home with friends and maybe watch a movie while munching on a small buffet or takeaway.
As for students, they would get drunk first, take vodka out with them and just buy a bottle of coke between them.

Score: 1

Tim Burr
11:22pm Wed 3 Sep 14

Reality50 wrote…

Tim Burr wrote…

Reality50 wrote…

Great pub and surprised it shut,as its next door to a student block. They should have made it into a student type pub but they never really bothered. Second pub in a week to have alleged arson,as the Gibraltar Rock had same last week,i read.

It's been a Spar shop for a good few years.! It was the next one along, the Cross Guns.

RE the Cattle Market, it was pointless trying to torch it as it was coming down anyway. A group of us used to go in a couple of times a month - when it was announced it was closing, one of the lads enquired to buy it but as usual, the pub co had a monopoly money price tag for a building which even then needed a fortune spending on it.

True,it has always been run down and tatty,as long as i've known it. There are so few pubs in that area nowadays,from the Cattle Market onwards to the old Flying Shuttle. All 3 pubs near Burnden have gone since the Wanderers left the area,as has the Monteraze,near Green Lane and Church Inn and Shuttle at Farnworth. Basically there is the Brooklyn and Southfields and that's it.

Isn't there a couple on Lever Street + the Queen Elizabeth on Fletcher Street, then the Park Hotel Bridgeman Street which was the home of the mighty Park Utd who had a brilliant centre half... me.!

[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Tim Burr[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Reality50[/bold] wrote:
Great pub and surprised it shut,as its next door to a student block. They should have made it into a student type pub but they never really bothered. Second pub in a week to have alleged arson,as the Gibraltar Rock had same last week,i read.[/p][/quote]It's been a Spar shop for a good few years.! It was the next one along, the Cross Guns.
RE the Cattle Market, it was pointless trying to torch it as it was coming down anyway. A group of us used to go in a couple of times a month - when it was announced it was closing, one of the lads enquired to buy it but as usual, the pub co had a monopoly money price tag for a building which even then needed a fortune spending on it.[/p][/quote]True,it has always been run down and tatty,as long as i've known it. There are so few pubs in that area nowadays,from the Cattle Market onwards to the old Flying Shuttle. All 3 pubs near Burnden have gone since the Wanderers left the area,as has the Monteraze,near Green Lane and Church Inn and Shuttle at Farnworth. Basically there is the Brooklyn and Southfields and that's it.[/p][/quote]Isn't there a couple on Lever Street + the Queen Elizabeth on Fletcher Street, then the Park Hotel Bridgeman Street which was the home of the mighty Park Utd who had a brilliant centre half... me.!Tim Burr

Reality50 wrote…

Tim Burr wrote…

Reality50 wrote…

Great pub and surprised it shut,as its next door to a student block. They should have made it into a student type pub but they never really bothered. Second pub in a week to have alleged arson,as the Gibraltar Rock had same last week,i read.

It's been a Spar shop for a good few years.! It was the next one along, the Cross Guns.

RE the Cattle Market, it was pointless trying to torch it as it was coming down anyway. A group of us used to go in a couple of times a month - when it was announced it was closing, one of the lads enquired to buy it but as usual, the pub co had a monopoly money price tag for a building which even then needed a fortune spending on it.

True,it has always been run down and tatty,as long as i've known it. There are so few pubs in that area nowadays,from the Cattle Market onwards to the old Flying Shuttle. All 3 pubs near Burnden have gone since the Wanderers left the area,as has the Monteraze,near Green Lane and Church Inn and Shuttle at Farnworth. Basically there is the Brooklyn and Southfields and that's it.

Isn't there a couple on Lever Street + the Queen Elizabeth on Fletcher Street, then the Park Hotel Bridgeman Street which was the home of the mighty Park Utd who had a brilliant centre half... me.!

Score: 2

Bwfctillidie
4:11am Thu 4 Sep 14

Yet another piece of quality reporting by the Bolton News NOT. If someone wants to remain anonymous why print their name,

"The owner of neighbouring business AA Performance, who asked not to be named, said he believed the Cattle Market was due to be knocked down on September 8.

He added that the fire set off the alarm on his premises at about 2.30am.

Mr Barnett added that he believes the building’s demolition is being brought forward as a result of the fire."

Yet another piece of quality reporting by the Bolton News NOT. If someone wants to remain anonymous why print their name,
"The owner of neighbouring business AA Performance, who asked not to be named, said he believed the Cattle Market was due to be knocked down on September 8.
He added that the fire set off the alarm on his premises at about 2.30am.
Mr Barnett added that he believes the building’s demolition is being brought forward as a result of the fire."Bwfctillidie

Yet another piece of quality reporting by the Bolton News NOT. If someone wants to remain anonymous why print their name,

"The owner of neighbouring business AA Performance, who asked not to be named, said he believed the Cattle Market was due to be knocked down on September 8.

He added that the fire set off the alarm on his premises at about 2.30am.

Mr Barnett added that he believes the building’s demolition is being brought forward as a result of the fire."

Score: 2

mintshaker
7:16am Thu 4 Sep 14

Bwfctillidie wrote…

Yet another piece of quality reporting by the Bolton News NOT. If someone wants to remain anonymous why print their name,

"The owner of neighbouring business AA Performance, who asked not to be named, said he believed the Cattle Market was due to be knocked down on September 8.

He added that the fire set off the alarm on his premises at about 2.30am.

Mr Barnett added that he believes the building’s demolition is being brought forward as a result of the fire."

Reading earlier in the article, Mr Barnett is manager of the Bolton Central crew of firefighters. Hope that clears that one up.

[quote][p][bold]Bwfctillidie[/bold] wrote:
Yet another piece of quality reporting by the Bolton News NOT. If someone wants to remain anonymous why print their name,
"The owner of neighbouring business AA Performance, who asked not to be named, said he believed the Cattle Market was due to be knocked down on September 8.
He added that the fire set off the alarm on his premises at about 2.30am.
Mr Barnett added that he believes the building’s demolition is being brought forward as a result of the fire."[/p][/quote]Reading earlier in the article, Mr Barnett is manager of the Bolton Central crew of firefighters. Hope that clears that one up.mintshaker

Bwfctillidie wrote…

Yet another piece of quality reporting by the Bolton News NOT. If someone wants to remain anonymous why print their name,

"The owner of neighbouring business AA Performance, who asked not to be named, said he believed the Cattle Market was due to be knocked down on September 8.

He added that the fire set off the alarm on his premises at about 2.30am.

Mr Barnett added that he believes the building’s demolition is being brought forward as a result of the fire."

Reading earlier in the article, Mr Barnett is manager of the Bolton Central crew of firefighters. Hope that clears that one up.

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