'In my life so far, I have discovered that there are really only two kinds of people: those who are for you, and those who are against you. Learn to recognize them, for they are often and easily mistaken for each other.'

i didn't really have high hopes for it to begin with. i think it is solid. i would just rather hear the new lp of material since half of this is older stuff they recently recorded, if that story is right. i will commend bands for reuniting and attempting to make new music rather than just playing their old stuff to death, but it is usually impossible for a band to be broken up that long and come back with something that matches their original output.

I don't want the "old Godflesh" sound back from streetcleaner. I mean streetcleaner was the right sound at the right time, same as all other outputs and each release has an unique ambiance.

The new one is actually something i personally expected. It is bloody similar to that sound they're playing live after Hellfest 2010. Stronger focus on the guitar sound, more riff-y than everything before.

I think this is very solid too and i hope too that the new album will sound bit different to that. I would wish more atmosphere in the background of the tracks maybe like "blind" from Merciless. Or maybe it could be totally differnt as Us And Them. Robert Hampson btw?? Hm.. why not

Whining puts a negative spin on it, but i don't see anything out of the ordinary on discussing and critiquing a new work here. some people love it, some don't, some want to get into all the bits and pieces. it's what i'd think a message board dedicated to a band/musician would be for.

Whining puts a negative spin on it, but i don't see anything out of the ordinary on discussing and critiquing a new work here. some people love it, some don't, some want to get into all the bits and pieces. it's what i'd think a message board dedicated to a band/musician would be for.

if anything, i'd call it healthy that it elicits varied response.

exactly, i don't see anyone "whining" about it. just because a new record is out doesn't mean everyone should automatically force themselves to like it or claim it as brilliant if they don't think it is.

If you like I'll have a long whine about how shit Selfless is? It's something I like to do.

As always the Klaw-racle is right. How ridiculous would it be if we all had a mass Skype session with our pants down tugging off and headbanging to Ringer. The best part is when people carry out vigorous discourse on the topic. I think any sentiment that we should all like it just because its new Godflesh and we should be grateful is rubbish. As for me I liked it the night I bought it. Then last night I did about four hours of painting listening to nothing but the Flesh. New EP once, first album twice, Streetcleaner and Slavestate. I think I was drunk with excitedness when I first got it but rather than growing on me I think it's growing off me a bit.

I think a bit more hair related conversation is needed here.

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