CheetahOlivetti:kapaso: Maktaka: luktti: kapaso: Arizona wasn't this hateful until all your parents started coming here for the winter

Arizona wasn;t that hateful until the illegals started crossing the border in droves.

Just because there aren't any foreigners around to arrest, harass, and spew bigotry at doesn't make 3/4ths of Arizona's population any less racist. It's still a worthless state run and supported by worthless people.

So you kinda sound like a bigot. It might surprise you to learn that every single negative story on arizona originates from one county heavily populated by people from other states.

Not all of them. Quartzsite is a bit further west.

Quartzite has like a population of 2 for 11 months out of the year. The one month where the population goes over million is when they have the rock festival, which is almost all old RV' ers, again from other states. I believe it the largest population variation of any city in the US. From what I've seen it may vary well be the largest variation in the world.

Another Government Employee:relcec: pippi longstocking: You don't hear this much in the public arena, but this is what happens when you privatize the penal system. This is why we have the largest incarceration rate per capita in the world.

Why the hell do we need to have private prisons? They are just monopsonies riddled with greed and corruption. The level of corruption is really quite impressive, I sincerely believe that if prisons were publicly owned this whole stupid system would reform practically overnight, no more putting people in jail for smoking a joint, parking tickets, etc...

cops set up innocent victims and file false charges all the f*cking time and have been doing it since the beginning of society I'm sure.this cop didn't do it for a kickback from the Omni Consumer Products. he didn't do it because his cousin is a guard at the county lockup and he wanted to get him an extra shift.he did it because he is an antisocial abusive f*ck who gets a kick out of smashing people he can.

the authoritarian nature of this country or marijuana possession or unpaid traffic tickets being a jailable offense has anything to do with private prisons.christ, I had a marshal come to my house when I was 21 and pick me up for unpaid parking tickets. it wasn't the private prison that they didn't take me to that was making the money, it was the sweet liberal city I lived. christ, you hear something that sounds half way plausible and maybe has a little truth to it but you get so damn excited you grab it in your teeth and then run off full speed head first into a wall. the cops are the f*cking ones that are arresting people.

Must have been a lot of damn tickets to issue the warrant.

parking is hell at the university. total was only about $350 or so. but the city constable/marshal said she had never got a warrant for under $500 prior to that.

Nadie_AZ:luktti: kapaso: Arizona wasn't this hateful until all your parents started coming here for the winter

Arizona wasn;t that hateful until the illegals started crossing the border in droves.

Hey jackass, let me remind you of something:

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See that map? Yeah, the one of the Mexican American war? The one America started in the 1840s? See that spot where I live? Where the Gila river is? Yeah, that's Phoenix. Guess what country that was in the middle of? Mexico. Mexico owned that land for 20 years. Before that? Spain. For hundreds of years. Spanish owned, bred and settled.

I *hate* americans who think 'oh we are white, we were the first ones on this land, derp derp derp' as if they colonized the f*cking moon.

USA was, of course, the only country in the history of the world to ever take territory. Just ask the Aztecs.

As an Arizonan, all I can say is fark goverment. As an American, all I can say is fark government.If Government is a necessary evil, then poltics is nothing but evil, and to think about politics all the time is to fill your head with evil.

Nadie_AZ:I *hate* americans who think 'oh we are white, we were the first ones on this land, derp derp derp' as if they colonized the f*cking moon.

No, no, it's not that whites were the first ones, far from it. They had to battle bloodthirsty savages to lay their rightful claim to the land that God, by His Divine Providence, had ordained for them.

"More than any other celebration.. Thanksgiving celebrates our ethnocentrism... God on our side, civilization wrested from wilderness, order from disorder, through hard work and good Pilgrim character traits." -- Lies my Teacher Told Me

miltonbabbitt:FTA:Many a dumb redneck has called my voicemail to leave some anonymous anti-Mexican rant and wonder about my use of the word "nativism" to describe the plague of hate that has engulfed this state for several years.

So here's a definition for the knuckle-draggers, borrowed from American historian John Higham: "ntense opposition to an internal minority on the ground of its foreign (i.e., 'un-American') connections."

I like this guy.

I admit I like Lemons, too. He's a tough bird. He put the flames to Russel Pearce's feet and I think he helped trigger the recall. He also put a spotlight on the little game they played with a 3rd candidate, who was hispanic, to try and draw the vote away from his challenger. The spotlight caused the candidate to be taken to court and ultimately withdraw.

relcec:Queensowntalia: luktti: kapaso: Arizona wasn't this hateful until all your parents started coming here for the winter

Arizona wasn;t that hateful until the illegals started crossing the border in droves.

According to a Princeton researcher, "We are not being flooded with illegal Mexican migrants. The total number of migrants from Mexico has varied very little since the 1950s.The massive influx many have written about never happened." Among other myths being propagated by the rabidly anti-immigrant set.

that's complete bullshiat. and you are basically brain dead if you can't tell it is bullshiat. seriously. brain dead. no ability to even correctly judge whether it is raining or someone is pissing on your face.

we haven't had this high immigration levels since the 1920s. the 1950s when everyone had a nice job that paid well? yeah, that had something to do with the lowest immigration in 80 years either side of it. more people, more competition for jobs, lower wages. that's why the u.s. chamber of commerce is rabidly pro immigration. the democrats don't give a f*ck because they are concerned with power, not decent jobs for americans.when did the middle class start to stagnate? 1970, right when the flood gates were opened because the democrats were interested in bringing in poor people to become the next generations democrats. the 165 immigration bill completely revamped the u.s. immigration policies and since then we have been the largest importer of foreign workers in world history.

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Yeah, filling your response with insults and political sniping is not the way to be taken seriously. It's a good way to be written off as a troll and/or nutjob, though.

Nadie_AZ:luktti: kapaso: Arizona wasn't this hateful until all your parents started coming here for the winter

Arizona wasn;t that hateful until the illegals started crossing the border in droves.

Hey jackass, let me remind you of something:

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See that map? Yeah, the one of the Mexican American war? The one America started in the 1840s? See that spot where I live? Where the Gila river is? Yeah, that's Phoenix. Guess what country that was in the middle of? Mexico. Mexico owned that land for 20 years. Before that? Spain. For hundreds of years. Spanish owned, bred and settled.

I *hate* americans who think 'oh we are white, we were the first ones on this land, derp derp derp' as if they colonized the f*cking moon.

Nadie_AZ:See that map? Yeah, the one of the Mexican American war? The one America started in the 1840s? See that spot where I live? Where the Gila river is? Yeah, that's Phoenix. Guess what country that was in the middle of? Mexico. Mexico owned that land for 20 years. Before that? Spain. For hundreds of years. Spanish owned, bred and settled.

Nadie_AZ:See that map? Yeah, the one of the Mexican American war? The one America started in the 1840s? See that spot where I live? Where the Gila river is? Yeah, that's Phoenix. Guess what country that was in the middle of? Mexico. Mexico owned that land for 20 years. Before that? Spain. For hundreds of years. Spanish owned, bred and settled.

I *hate* americans who think 'oh we are white, we were the first ones on this land, derp derp derp' as if they colonized the f*cking moon.

The Spanish are white people. So for hundreds of years, it was White owned, bred, and settled.

/I think you left out the brown people who were there before the Spanish

Nadie_AZ:luktti: kapaso: Arizona wasn't this hateful until all your parents started coming here for the winter

Arizona wasn;t that hateful until the illegals started crossing the border in droves.

Hey jackass, let me remind you of something:

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See that map? Yeah, the one of the Mexican American war? The one America started in the 1840s? See that spot where I live? Where the Gila river is? Yeah, that's Phoenix. Guess what country that was in the middle of? Mexico. Mexico owned that land for 20 years. Before that? Spain. For hundreds of years. Spanish owned, bred and settled.

I *hate* americans who think 'oh we are white, we were the first ones on this land, derp derp derp' as if they colonized the f*cking moon.

Not to nitpick, but the continent is (North) America. The country is the United States of America. I wonder if the people that are native to this continent thought the Spaniards walked around going "we are Spanish, derp, derp, derp" when you took their land from them originally.

Dokushin:USA was, of course, the only country in the history of the world to ever take territory. Just ask the Aztecs.

This is true. William was given a red carpet welcome to England in 1066 and China really liked that Genghis fellow in the 1200s. He was a right old chap. And if it weren't for the Romans, the jews wouldn't have aqueducts, roads, laws. peace, or anything else.

Salvatierra, a well-known immigration attorney, along with the aid of criminal attorney Antonio Bustamante and Johnny Sinodis, a counsel in Salvatierra's office, went to battle on Torres' behalf.

YOU SEE! This is what happens when you let illegals attend school and get jobs and drivers licenses and such! They all use their lawyer degrees (that they got tax free no doubt) and help yet another illegal beat the system!

And this judge, Carolyn Passamonte? ANOTHER ILLEGAL! And who's this Frank Kafka they're talking about, what country is he from?

weclock:As an Arizonan, all I can say is fark goverment. As an American, all I can say is fark government.If Government is a necessary evil, then poltics is nothing but evil, and to think about politics all the time is to fill your head with evil.

It's almost like we get what we vote for. Government for the idiots by the idiots. Good governence is very hard, stirring up hatred by spouting bs is easy. What do you vote for?

Queensowntalia:relcec: Queensowntalia: luktti: kapaso: Arizona wasn't this hateful until all your parents started coming here for the winter

Arizona wasn;t that hateful until the illegals started crossing the border in droves.

According to a Princeton researcher, "We are not being flooded with illegal Mexican migrants. The total number of migrants from Mexico has varied very little since the 1950s.The massive influx many have written about never happened." Among other myths being propagated by the rabidly anti-immigrant set.

that's complete bullshiat. and you are basically brain dead if you can't tell it is bullshiat. seriously. brain dead. no ability to even correctly judge whether it is raining or someone is pissing on your face.

we haven't had this high immigration levels since the 1920s. the 1950s when everyone had a nice job that paid well? yeah, that had something to do with the lowest immigration in 80 years either side of it. more people, more competition for jobs, lower wages. that's why the u.s. chamber of commerce is rabidly pro immigration. the democrats don't give a f*ck because they are concerned with power, not decent jobs for americans.when did the middle class start to stagnate? 1970, right when the flood gates were opened because the democrats were interested in bringing in poor people to become the next generations democrats. the 165 immigration bill completely revamped the u.s. immigration policies and since then we have been the largest importer of foreign workers in world history.

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Yeah, filling your response with insults and political sniping is not the way to be taken seriously. It's a good way to be written off as a troll and/or nutjob, though.

He seems to be pretty correct according to the GOE Report the Government does every 10 years.

Lunaville:Exactly. I just love (note sarcasm) that I am expected to put together an identification kit for my child/children to carry with them at all times in case one of them, while not in my company, happens to be asked by a police officer to prove citizenship. I wonder if Mr. Statute-is-sound realizes that in absence of such ID, which white children do not have to carry, my child/children could be detained until I can arrive with appropriate documents?

I agree with you and all that, blah blah, etc. But I can't help but be a little... unsettled by your "child/children" thing. Count them dammit!

vygramul:Nadie_AZ: See that map? Yeah, the one of the Mexican American war? The one America started in the 1840s? See that spot where I live? Where the Gila river is? Yeah, that's Phoenix. Guess what country that was in the middle of? Mexico. Mexico owned that land for 20 years. Before that? Spain. For hundreds of years. Spanish owned, bred and settled.

I *hate* americans who think 'oh we are white, we were the first ones on this land, derp derp derp' as if they colonized the f*cking moon.

The Spanish are white people. So for hundreds of years, it was White owned, bred, and settled.

/I think you left out the brown people who were there before the Spanish

Nah. There was a mixing of peoples. You've native, mestizo and peninsulares. Those people settled the regions in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. They lived with the natives of the land. There are hispanic families in these regions that go back generations and generations.

Yes, the spanish were white. But because they failed to bring white women, the men settled for the hot latina ...

Too Pretty For Prison:Not to nitpick, but the continent is (North) America. The country is the United States of America. I wonder if the people that are native to this continent thought the Spaniards walked around going "we are Spanish, derp, derp, derp" when you took their land from them originally.

Ack. I should explain better. As I said above, the Spanish did conquer the lands. But they only had men on the continent. So they bred with the native women. A mixing took place.

Nadie_AZ:vygramul: Nadie_AZ: See that map? Yeah, the one of the Mexican American war? The one America started in the 1840s? See that spot where I live? Where the Gila river is? Yeah, that's Phoenix. Guess what country that was in the middle of? Mexico. Mexico owned that land for 20 years. Before that? Spain. For hundreds of years. Spanish owned, bred and settled.

I *hate* americans who think 'oh we are white, we were the first ones on this land, derp derp derp' as if they colonized the f*cking moon.

The Spanish are white people. So for hundreds of years, it was White owned, bred, and settled.

/I think you left out the brown people who were there before the Spanish

Nah. There was a mixing of peoples. You've native, mestizo and peninsulares. Those people settled the regions in California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas. They lived with the natives of the land. There are hispanic families in these regions that go back generations and generations.

Yes, the spanish were white. But because they failed to bring white women, the men settled for the hot latina ...

You mean short fat native woman better than a goat. 15 years later came the so, so, latina.

luktti:kapaso: Arizona wasn't this hateful until all your parents started coming here for the winter

Arizona wasn;t that hateful until the illegals started crossing the border in droves.

Really? Because Arizona was one of the last holdout states to ban interracial marriage until the Supreme Court forced them to allow it in 1967. My parents were married prior to 1967, and had they done it in Arizona, they would have been jailed.

Nadie_AZ:See that map? Yeah, the one of the Mexican American war? The one America started in the 1840s? See that spot where I live? Where the Gila river is? Yeah, that's Phoenix. Guess what country that was in the middle of? Mexico. Mexico owned that land for 20 years. Before that? Spain. For hundreds of years. Spanish owned, bred and settled.

I *hate* americans who think 'oh we are white, we were the first ones on this land, derp derp derp' as if they colonized the f*cking moon.

I hate white idiots who think that the Olmec, the Toltec, the Teotihuacan, the Zapotec, the Maya and the Aztec Mexican tribes from MEXICO that only lived in MEXICO lived alongside native American Apache, Comanche, Havasupai, Hopi, Jemez, Kiowa, Kiowa Apache, Mohave, Navaho, Pima, Pueblo, Shoshoni, Ute, Walapai, Yuma, Zunitribes here in AMERICA. they didn't. Mexico got the territory that we now occupy FROM SPAIN and the conquistadors when it was a SPANISH COLONY, not from mexican indians colonizing california and nevada. they would have got their ass kicked for goodness sake.

Yes we did take this land called America from indigenous people, but they weren't f*cking mexicans.

pippi longstocking:You don't hear this much in the public arena, but this is what happens when you privatize the penal system. This is why we have the largest incarceration rate per capita in the world.

Why the hell do we need to have private prisons? They are just monopsonies riddled with greed and corruption. The level of corruption is really quite impressive, I sincerely believe that if prisons were publicly owned this whole stupid system would reform practically overnight, no more putting people in jail for smoking a joint, parking tickets, etc...

This is what happens when you give prosecutors immunity.

In other words, this sort of shiat happens whenever someone is granted too much authority over other people. Private prisons are a problem, but its the concept that the police are political and revenue generators which is at the heart of the issue.

relcec:Nadie_AZ: See that map? Yeah, the one of the Mexican American war? The one America started in the 1840s? See that spot where I live? Where the Gila river is? Yeah, that's Phoenix. Guess what country that was in the middle of? Mexico. Mexico owned that land for 20 years. Before that? Spain. For hundreds of years. Spanish owned, bred and settled.

I *hate* americans who think 'oh we are white, we were the first ones on this land, derp derp derp' as if they colonized the f*cking moon.

I hate white idiots who think that the Olmec, the Toltec, the Teotihuacan, the Zapotec, the Maya and the Aztec Mexican tribes from MEXICO that only lived in MEXICO lived alongside native American Apache, Comanche, Havasupai, Hopi, Jemez, Kiowa, Kiowa Apache, Mohave, Navaho, Pima, Pueblo, Shoshoni, Ute, Walapai, Yuma, Zunitribes here in AMERICA. they didn't. Mexico got the territory that we now occupy FROM SPAIN and the conquistadors when it was a SPANISH COLONY, not from mexican indians colonizing california and nevada. they would have got their ass kicked for goodness sake.

Yes we did take this land called America from indigenous people, but they weren't f*cking mexicans.

Didya see the map? Who had claim the the land? Of course the yaqui, o'ohdam, hopi, pima, zuni, maricopa, yuma, pai and other peoples weren't part of central mexico. I never argued that. I argued that the country of mexico ruled over the lands that Americans now claim as their own (and it is- they conquered it). My issue is the idea that somehow these brown people decided to invade the country- when a lot of them had already been here when it was conquered.

LindenFark:Daraymann: Nadie_AZ: Ack. I should explain better. As I said above, the Spanish did conquer the lands. But they only had men on the continent. So they bred with the native women. A mixing took place.

LindenFark:luktti: kapaso: Arizona wasn't this hateful until all your parents started coming here for the winter

Arizona wasn;t that hateful until the illegals started crossing the border in droves.

Really? Because Arizona was one of the last holdout states to ban interracial marriage until the Supreme Court forced them to allow it in 1967. My parents were married prior to 1967, and had they done it in Arizona, they would have been jailed.

Well Arizona has never been a bastion of progressive thought, but the hatred for the Mexicans has gotten a lot worse in the last decade and writing it into laws is fairly new. The politicians who are writing the laws count on the snowbirds to keep them in power.

kapaso:LindenFark: luktti: kapaso: Arizona wasn't this hateful until all your parents started coming here for the winter

Arizona wasn;t that hateful until the illegals started crossing the border in droves.

Really? Because Arizona was one of the last holdout states to ban interracial marriage until the Supreme Court forced them to allow it in 1967. My parents were married prior to 1967, and had they done it in Arizona, they would have been jailed.

Well Arizona has never been a bastion of progressive thought, but the hatred for the Mexicans has gotten a lot worse in the last decade and writing it into laws is fairly new. The politicians who are writing the laws count on the snowbirds to keep them in power.

And mormons.

I'm curious if that law prohibited marriage between hispanics and whites.

Native of AZ here. I can say I love Arizona, and I hate this shiat. I hate what these assholes have done to my state. It's not Juan and Jose that are stealing cars, running drugs, napping kids, 9 times out of 10 it's Kevin and Chad, those white meth head fark-ups from your own neighborhood.

CSB:

We are mixed, although I have blonde hair and green eyes, my brother is fairly dark and has dark "ethnic hair" (If you had to guess, most people say he looks half black/half mexican). He was driving his work truck early one morning when this crazy white lady after all this SB1070 stuff started threw a drink at him and she yelled "Go back to Mexico!" He responded very politely "Excuse me, ma'am?" and she gasped, then ran. SHE RAN.

Daraymann:LindenFark: Daraymann: Nadie_AZ: Ack. I should explain better. As I said above, the Spanish did conquer the lands. But they only had men on the continent. So they bred with the native women. A mixing took place.

Well that's sure a nice way to say rape everyone.

Exaggerate much? I'm sure most of the indigenous men were spared.

You're right, they just killed them.

See? Was that so hard? Now we just need a euphemism for "killing everyone else".

Lol, you're a dumbass. Texas is almost majority Mexican and has a very deep rooted Mexican culture (a culture and hitory the morons in Arizona don't seem to acknowledge), they are called Tejanos. I'd rather be Mexican in Texas than anywhere outside of the southwest (excluding the shiat heads in Zona of course).

Lol, you're a dumbass. Texas is almost majority Mexican and has a very deep rooted Mexican culture (a culture and hitory the morons in Arizona don't seem to acknowledge), they are called Tejanos. I'd rather be Mexican in Texas than anywhere outside of the southwest (excluding the shiat heads in Zona of course).