1 (10.30 a.m.) 2< Professor Funke, recalled. 3< Cross-Examined by Mr Irving, continued. 4MR JUSTICE GRAY: Yes, Mr Irving? 5MR IRVING: My Lord, I have put two small bundles in front of 6your Lordship. One is a bundle of photographs which I do 7not propose to dwell very much on. I think I will spend 810 seconds looking at each one with the witness. They are 9photographs of German meetings. They are minor points to 10be made possibly on each of the photographs. Some of he 11meetings we are familiar with, and some not. 12MR JUSTICE GRAY: Yes. 13MR IRVING: The second bundle, my Lord, I have yesterday taken 14the Eichmann papers, which is what I am now holding in my 15hand. I have converted them to hard copy. I would be 16quite happy to make that available to the Defence. I have 17extracted five or six pages already, which are the only 18pages I have found with a word search for "Fuhrer" or 19"Hitler" in any substance. They may help the Defence, 20they may help me, I have not really looked at them, but 21I have put them there in case there is any need for 22immediate action on them. 23MR JUSTICE GRAY: Well, you are not going to deal with them 24with this witness anyway? 25MR IRVING: No, my Lord. 26MR JUSTICE GRAY: So we will put that on one side.

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1MR IRVING: Except that lower down on the same bundle there are 2one or two things that I probably will draw the witness's 3attention to. 4MR JUSTICE GRAY: Mr Rampton, do we have a list of the alleged 5extremists? 6MR RAMPTON: Yes, we do. 7MR JUSTICE GRAY: I was thinking it might be helpful to have it 8at this stage. 9MR RAMPTON: Yes. So, it is a list of the alleged extremists, 10it is a list of the important ones for this part of the 11case. There is an "Others" category which really does not 12directly concern Professor Funke. 13MR JUSTICE GRAY: Right. Yes, Professor? 14A.
[Dr Hajo Funke]
Can I add three remarks from yesterday? 15MR JUSTICE GRAY: Yes, if you wish to. 16A.
[Dr Hajo Funke]
When? 17Q.
[Mr Justice Gray]
Yes, now. 18A.
[Dr Hajo Funke]
OK, good. I rethought the coverage of 9th November '91 in 19Halle and, to my best knowledge, the NB, the National 20Bloc, is not as I said from the Ruhr area, but from 21Bavaria under the leader of Manfred Eichmann. This is the 22first. 23 The second, I did not get the protocol of 24yesterday, so -- the minutes of yesterday, so I do not 25know if I got special question of David Irving right. So 26in the case I did not I want just to state that in those

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1pictures we saw he did not allude to direct forms of 2anti-Semitism, but that does not mean that he did not do 3this in the German, you know, appearances, and also if you 4see the whole text of the speech in Munich, I would claim 5this has anti-Semitic sentiments in it. The second one. 6MR IRVING: Which speech in Munich are you referring to? 7A.
[Dr Hajo Funke]
Yours. 8Q.
[Mr Irving]
Well I spoke in Munich about 30 or 40 times probably. 9MR JUSTICE GRAY: The one we saw on the video, I imagine. 10MR RAMPTON: Can I intervene at that stage, to point something 11out, and it is this. If we are talking about the first 12Munich meeting, the one which has "Wahrheit macht frei" 13and David Irving's name on the placard underneath it. Our 14understanding from the diary of Mr Irving, first of all, 15is that he spoke twice at that meeting, once before the 16interval and once after. 17 The second thing, we learned from his reply, 18that he spoke altogether for about an hour, and that he 19said he was going to rely on the text of what he said at 20the trial of this action. 21MR JUSTICE GRAY: You have not had anything? 22MR RAMPTON: I have never had the tape or a transcript of it. 23MR JUSTICE GRAY: Yes. Mr Irving, what about that? 24MR IRVING: My Lord, obviously, at one time I had anticipated 25that I had a tape of it. In fact, I think there is 26correspondence indicating that I believed I did have a

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1tape of it, but I have disclosed all my tapes and 2cassettes to the defence in this matter, nothing has been 3withheld. I had no idea what was on the video cassettes 4because I did not have a video player. 5MR JUSTICE GRAY: In the light of that, Mr Rampton, I think it 6has to be left to cross-examination. 7MR RAMPTON: Well, I think it will. There are some other 8things I want to raise in relation to discovery in 9cross-examination. I am a little concerned, however, 10about the time-scale, because the cross-examination of 11Mr Irving by me, which might last a day, or a day and a 12bit, I hope we will be finished this week. 13MR JUSTICE GRAY: So do I. 14MR RAMPTON: That will be the last of the evidence. I cannot 15say any more than that. 16MR JUSTICE GRAY: No, obviously, I am not going to cut off 17Mr Irving. I have given an indication that I think the 18scope of cross-examination of this witness is relatively 19limited. You have, if I may say so, taken hints in the 20past, but you must take your own course, this is not a 21direction of any sort. 22MR IRVING: Next week, of course, I will have some submissions 23to make. 24MR JUSTICE GRAY: Of course. You both will. Anyway, shall we 25press on? Is there anything else? 26MR RAMPTON: