What I don't get is why you guys in Europe paying so much attention to picture/video features even when discussing BUSINESS device? Even 2 MP picture that is taken by SE phones sucks comparing to a picture that is taken by cheap digital camera. If you want to take picture get yourself a camera. If you are receiving 100+ emails a day and sending out 30-40 get yourself a device that is designed to do this, not some $600 toy that is good for what? Even voice com on SE is not as good as some other phones.

you see these phones every were in the us i can understand they may look like bricks but in reality they are actually very functional machines that can do almost any task that you could do at your computer they look like they come in handy when a business man is on the go and needs to look up a clients account information so i don't see what's all that bad about them

BlackBerry has been famous in US for some time now, though it never made its way home in the UK. Normally in US, people carry 2 'phones': a standard phone and a BlackBerry. BlackBerry is very useful especially for business man who travels.

Of course, some companies tried to make a - all-in-one phones, like SE P-series, Nokia's Smartphones with its more advanced OS, Samsung with Windows Mobile. Often these are very costly.

But it is how a person prefers it. Personally I would carry a phone (like 8800) and a P990 or even P910. BlackBerry however, is not a bad machine, even though it may look like a 'brick'.

You're obviously in to toys, not productivity. 'I've got my stylus and I take videos and picture.......' Well with my 8700 I can do secure realtime email and full PIM replication from Outlook, suck on that!!!!