“Obama and Romney Will Be Subjected to Real Lie Detector Test During Tonight’s Debate — Seriously”

Well, that’s all cute and cuddly … but talk is not any test of truth:

“The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?” -Jer 17:9

“But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies.” -Mat 15:18-19

Rather by their WORKS we can know the liars:

1 Now it came to pass after these things that God tested Abraham, and said to him, “Abraham!”
And he said, “Here I am.”
2 Then He said, “Take now your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.”
…
9 Then they came to the place of which God had told him. And Abraham built an altar there and placed the wood in order; and he bound Isaac his son and laid him on the altar, upon the wood.
10 And Abraham stretched out his hand and took the knife to slay his son.
11 But the Angel of the LORD called to him from heaven and said, “Abraham, Abraham!” So he said, “Here I am.”
12 And He said, “Do not lay your hand on the lad, or do anything to him; for NOW I KNOW that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from Me.”
-Genesis 22

“This position is simply a vindication of a larger legal principle that is actively enshrined in the United States constitution – namely, the ban on ex post facto (or “after the fact”) laws enshrined in Article I, Section 9.”

When something slimy wants you to get dirty with them, what would YOU say?

* Thanks for asking but I rather not send you nude pictures.
* I’m camera shy.
* I already said no.
* It’s against my religion.
* I’m giving my dog a bath, you can have pictures of that.
* Pressure gives me hives.
* Under my cloths I’m a robot.
* Hold on let me ask my mom.
* Sorry, my webcam is broken.
* I’m worried they’ll get passed around school.
* Unfortunately I just had my cloths surgically attached to my body.
* If they got out I might never be president.
* I’m already naked under my cloths.
* Not even if you were all three Jonas Brothers.
* I have a rash.
* I have nude-a-phobia.
* I have lizard skin.
* The more you ask, the less I want to.
* You’re not the boss of me.
* Nudity makes me vomit.
* I’m a vampire so I don’t show up in pictures anyway.
* You’re badgering has really killed the mood.

“I’m calling today because the nation’s largest atheist organization, the Freedom From Religion Foundation, has claimed that our historic National Day Of Prayer is unConstitutional. This is going to prevent the time honored tradition from taking place ever again.

“Can you imagine our children and grand-children growing up in a society where we are forbidden to pray as a nation?

“It’s unthinkable, but the reality is that all public mention of God would be erased if Freedom From Religion Foundation wins this case.

“If they see a victory here, there’s going to be a renewed effort to rewrite our National Motto and the Pledge Of Allegiance, both of which refer to our Creator.

“That’s why we have to speak out against this right now. As a Christian, I’ve joined the National Committee For Faith And Family, which is dedicated to keeping God alive in our society and defend our God-given right to pray for our country.

“With so much at stake, I need you to be involved now more than ever, and help us protect the National Day Of Prayer. Thanks, and God bless you.”

Eric Holder must have fallen asleep! I'm sure he has at least 20 DOJ lawyers headed to Pennsylvania to see what happened.

October 3, 2012 at 10:21am

DeavonReye responded:

Do you ever stop to wonder why people are always attempting to "keep god alive in our country"? Why, do you suppose, there HAVE been many falling away from religious beliefs? Why, do you suppose, that even christians will behave in a way that they seem to conclude "there really isn't a god, so I can do what I want". IF god is real, . . . did 'he' make a mistake by "leaving it all up to 'faith', having no credible evidence"? If 'he' WAS truly visable, benevolent, helpful, actively stopping injustice, ending poverty, hunger, etc, . . . . I would think that no one would be "attempting to keep god alive in this country".
When I hear that phrase, . . . I see it as "people attempting to keep something alive that they NEED to stay alive for their own benefit". It can be scary to think of a the ending of our lives being . . . the end. The ideology/doctrine of "heaven" produces hope. No doubt. Maybe there IS some sort of "afterlife". A part of me hopes so. Truly! But that doesn't make it true, just because it is a nice thought.
I, personally, wish that [if there IS a being like a "god" that actually cares about us humans] "he", "she", "it" would be more than just "something another human SAYS is real". Humans have been WAY too wrong about too many things. Something like this really DOES require MUCH more than "faith".

October 3, 2012 at 12:57pm

ChrisDiamond responded:

Will one of you please answer this for me?
Why do you need a federal/national day of prayer? If you don't have that, are you somehow prevented from praying on that day? Does the Federal recognition and declaration somehow make prayers on THAT day clearer, or better heard by Jehovah? If it went away, would your right to worship and believe as you wish somehow be infringed upon?
Hmm...
So if you understand what I'm getting at, then why support a national day of prayer anyway? You wanna pray? Pray. Pray in the street, your yard, the mall, the parking lot... I don't give a damn where you pray, so long as you do not impede my ability to travel freely or exercise my own liberty. But this notion that there's an 'attack' on something that shouldn't really exist anyway is preposterous, and little more than a rallying cry for the evangelical right to show how Christian they are, and how hard they work to promote and support your values. It's a show, folks.

October 3, 2012 at 1:18pm

The land I love responded:

Why is having a national day of prayer a big deal to you then? Nobody is getting in your way to travel or impeding anything of yours. Nothing is being forced upon you. Why do you exist? Why can't religion exist? Look, if anything Christianity teaches good morals and values, at least you could believe in that, doesn't mean you have to believe in God. Go tell a Islamic country that their religion shouldnt exist and see how far your head rolls. A good story of an atheist in San Antonio wanted a nativity scene taken off the courthouse lawn of a small east texas town that I grew up in, which didn't happen. Later that year, he developed an eye infection or something and a lot of the people that were criticized from this town gathered up $20,000 to give to him , covering medical and grocery bills...he changed his mind about Christians, not everything is bad in religion and this isn't the war to fight bro

October 3, 2012 at 1:39pm

The Giver responded:

@ deavonreye- Read the Bible. It is changing my life. There is so much life wisdom in it. Try the One Year Bible NIV version. It's not that flawed humans are trying to keep God alive. God lives whether we acknowledge him or not. It's the consequences of pushing God away that are clearly stated in the Bible and now we are seeing the results all around us. People that are "trying to keep God live" are trying to fulfill Biblical covenants which clearly state that if you turn to God, He will heal our land. God is LOVE. Even if you don't believe in God, but love and forgive ( even your enemies) as Jesus instructed, you will help others heal including yourself ( if you need it). We live because of God, not the other way around.

October 3, 2012 at 1:40pm

ChrisDiamond responded:

@TheLandILove
A national day of prayer should not exist, and tax dollars are spent on events for the national day of prayer. They did it while I was in the military... a prayer breakfast on the National Day of Prayer... 90 minutes or so of lost work per person that attended, and everyone attended to get the hell out of 90 minutes of work. They undoubtedly do similar things in DC, and arguably with greater fanfare (read: COST). I'm sorry... we aren't paying the representatives to pray. They can do that all they want to on their own time. You say nothing is forced upon me, but I contend that it is... like paying for this BS I mentioned above. If we did NOT have a 'National Day of Prayer' though, you would lose nothing. NOTHING. You would not lose one iota of your religious freedom, your ability to pray, to worship, to tithe if you choose, to proselytize... nothing.
Now you put some nasty words in my mouth. I never said your religion shouldn't exist. I likewise wouldn't tell a Muslim that Islam shouldn't exist. So long as the practice of your faiths do not, IN ANY WAY infringe on my liberty, initiate force against me or steal from me, feel free to worship and believe as you wish. That being said, get your God out of public policy, and get tax breaks removed for churches (since they don't spend the money as Jesus told them to anyway... they just build bigger castles), If your God is so great anyway, why the hell does He need Federal sanction?

October 3, 2012 at 2:09pm

DeavonReye responded:

Thegiver, . . . where I appreciate the sentiment of your post, . . . it just doesn't hold any power to my reality. Not sure if you know my story, . . . I was "a christian" for ~20 years, and spent that time in FULL belief and trust in the christain god at that time. I was sincere! I wanted god "like the deer panteth for the water...". I sought the indwelling of the "holy spirit". I prayed, trusted, opened my "heart" to Jesus, and spent a lot of time at the alter. What was the common denominator in all of that? That there was nothing there. No revelations. No "comforter" that was promised to come. When my life was in shambles, justice was made a mockery. But mostly, everytime I attempted to "reach god" [prayer, bible study], I felt nothing. I sensed nothing. Just my thoughts. There wasn't even any "god" TO "push away"!
Eventually, as instructed by church leadership, I kept a journal of my thoughts when reading the bible. Read it more than I ever had. It was this time in my life when I discovered the errors, injustices, immorality and the frivolousness of life throughout biblical stories. Enough that I wrote a short book on those journal thoughts I was keeping.
Eventually, I could no longer call myself "a christian", and came to the conclusion that I was ONLY "a christain" in the past because I "believed other people". It was no longer "good enough".
Anyway, thanks for your concern, none the less.

October 3, 2012 at 2:50pm

ChrisDiamond responded:

@DevonReye
I couldn't leave your post without a response, as I identify with it all too well. As a young Christian, I went on a mission to prove a particular Biblical doctrine of a particular sect. I read and studied as I never had in my life, all the while in prayer, fasting, meditating and seeking. I wanted to be a vessel, in humility, and through an outpouring of love in my attitude, and through my testimony. I devoured the Bible... the KJV, the NIV, other modern versions, and even ancient versions in latin, ancient Greek and Hebrew! One of the Bibles I was privileged to study out of (and yes, I call it a privilege) was over 1,100 years old. I studied with leaders in the protestant world, the Catholic world, with a messianic Rabbi, and an orthodox Jewish Rabbi. As my understanding and knowledge grew, I began to start posing questions to my elders that I thought an atheist might ask. Imagine my dismay when my use of the Socratic method eventually led every single one of them, without fail, to resort to a statement like, "Sometimes, you just have to believe." I couldn't believe that these men were reduced to such a simple and woefully inexcusable response to lil ol' me and my questions. I was in agony over this for months. Then one night, I woke up from a dead sleep at about 2:30 am, and said, outloud, "There is no God." It just... came out. I didn't intend for it to, but it did. It haunted me for a while, and then I embraced it. Talk about liberation...

October 3, 2012 at 2:58pm

DeavonReye responded:

Thanks for relaying part of your story as well. Often times, christains look at people, like us, and assume that "we still believe in god, but are being rebellious". I WISH that were the case. I'm agnostic, so I'm open to there being "a god", but lean towards atheism because there has never been a compelling reason to believe one actually exists. And, to be honest, often times I am GLAD it isn't the one spoken of in the bible [especially the old testament].
Anyway, thanks!

October 3, 2012 at 3:22pm

ChrisDiamond responded:

I know... I lamented the loss of my faith for a couple of years. I felt betrayed and lost. Then I realized that I didn't have to feel guilty anymore for being a human being, and didn't have to believe that I was so bad before I was ever even born, that some guy had to be tortured and murdered for me so that I might have eternal life. I did not turn to drugs, I didn't start lying, I didn't steal or harm anyone... nothing about my character or moral code changed, really... I just wasn't shackled anymore by the tremendous weight of the guilt slapped on people by Christianity, nor by it's glaring hypocrisy (take care of the sick, the needy, the destitute... right after we build a NEW church that takes 85% of our annual revenue for the last 3 years! Sadly, I know the average spending on the local area poor, ill, infirmed and helpless is about 4% of annual church revenues. But plenty of new and improved castles have sprung up. A friend of mine who is a deacon told me, "It's disgusting. If churches were doing what God told us to do, we wouldn't NEED a welfare system! But most of these folks just want to belong to the biggest, newest or most beautiful church. They don't give a damn about God or what Jesus told us to do. It's a social thing for them." But call them out on it, and you see what happens. They act real "Christ-like" don't they?
=(

October 3, 2012 at 3:48pm

DeavonReye responded:

So true, Chris. And I shutter to think of the number of pastors [not all, but some] that have enough income to live a wealthy life, yet do so telling people to "give to the poor". Sure, . . . as long as it doesn't take away from my housing expense, fancy cars, and vacations. There is an underlining hypocricy in "the church". Even worse on "church TV". How many could have been helped by the money used to construct the mega church in my town. . . with architecture unnecessary to the purpose of the building?
That was a rhetorical question, of course.

October 3, 2012 at 3:51pm

colt1860 responded:

“Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government.” James Madison
The first national Thanksgiving Proclamations were those issued by the Continental Congress between 1777 and 1784. www.pilgrimhall.org/GivingThanks3c.htm
PRESIDENTIAL THANKSGIVING PROCLAMATIONS, from 1789-1815, were made by George Washington, John Adams, James Madison. http://www.pilgrimhall.org/ThanxProc1789.htm
Thank God you militant atheists, secularist, and Marxists did not represent these united States of America in 1776.
John Q. Adams, Sixth President of the United States, said, "The law given from Sinai was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code; it contained many statutes... of universal application-laws essential to the existence of men in society, and most of which have been enacted by every nation which ever professed any code of laws."
Fisher Ames, Framer of the First Amendment, said, "Our liberty depends on our education, our laws, and habits... it is founded on morals and religion, whose authority reigns in the heart, and on the influence all these produce on public opinion before that opinion governs rulers."
Benjamin Franklin, Signer of the Constitution and Declaration, said, "[O]nly a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters."

October 3, 2012 at 4:13pm

ChrisDiamond responded:

@Colt1860
"Thank God you militant atheists, secularist, and Marxists did not represent these united States of America in 1776."
Have I proposed taking up arms against Christians? Have I proposed eliminating your rights to worship, pray, or tithe as you wish? Nope. I've just asked that we get your God out of public policy that affects me. What a militant!
I adhere to the non-aggression principle, which means I find the initiation of force (in violence or corecion) to be reprehensible, whether it be through physical action or the force of law. The only just use of force, in my opinion is self defense. Not every atheist feels this way. There are indeed militant atheists, but I haven't seen any here. I would have resisted the tyranny of King George right along side the theists. Why? Because I believe that no one owns me. I don't own anyone else. The ironic thing is that the tyranny of this gov arguably exceeds that of King George against the colonies, what with the improvements in technology and rise of the police state. But when fellow Christian Dubya proposed killing all them Muslims in retaliation (thou shalt not kill... unless you're government, and then it is ok, so saith The LORD), you all jumped on board. When he proposed thieving from your grandkids to get Medicare part D, and double the Dept of Education (thou shalt not steal, unless you're the government, so saith the LORD), you all jumped on board.
All statists are militant. Not all atheists are milita

October 3, 2012 at 11:14pm

colt1860 responded:

@ChrisDiamond I never voted for Bush, his dad, or McCain. I'm only 24 years old. I didn't register in 2006 or 2008 because they were all terrible, and didn't agree with any one of them. So, I don't know where you got those conclusions or why, that is, if they're being directed to me. All I posted were statements by our founders, historical facts, and primary sources, that can't be refuted.

October 3, 2012 at 4:22am

” “Beyond the pale.“ ”Patently illegal.” That’s how Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) is describing a move by the Obama administration …. where the White House has told defense contractors not to issue layoff notices in November (four days before the election) … ”

WTF!? (WTF = Where’s The Fun?)
THIS is what those IDIOTS in Congress call ILLEGAL? After all the illegalities that Barack Huseein Obama (AKA Barry Obama, AKA Barry Soetoro, Kenyan Illegal alien — that’s right, with a Kenyan BIRTH CERTIFICATE — http://i3.ytimg.com/bg/jKZugo0aaREqEyqXIzGDVw/102.jpg — !!) and his commie gang has committed IN FULL VIEW of every Congressman?

soros visited the wh many times while barry was pres...seems like the secret service would have arrested him...nope, not happening.

October 3, 2012 at 11:10am

The-Monk responded:

@Obama_Forward_Over_The_Cliff
Soros is banned from entering 5 Countries. We should be the 6th.

October 2, 2012 at 1:54am

Considering that the Obama Administration has stated that Americas “have no reasonable expectation of privacy”, perhaps we should just JAIL “lesbian” Janet Napolitano commie. No e-mail, no Internet, no cell phone … just a cell. It’d be a win-win situation.

The reason female Democrats look ugly and butch is … well … that’s what they ARE (their politic is just as twisted out of shape, too — communist murderers, sex perverts, baby killers, sneak thieves, muslim slavers, ad infinitum). It just SHOWS.

But WE never HAD this chance of Ron Paul. He was sandbagged by the Republican establishment when they “coronated” Mitt Romney.

So, what do we do now?
With the brain-dead or ignoramus auto-lever-puller-voters of the Repubs & Dems party faithful, Paul doesn’t stand a chance (it breaks my heart to say). If the muslim-psychopath Obama wins, there will be a bloody civil war. If religious-mormon Romney wins, there may be time to make corrections in the Congress, which is now overrun with communists and have done NOTHING to stop Obama in his lawless tracks, to avoid the otherwise inevitable civil war. I don’t like ANY of these choices, but I like some even less than others.

I do like “Ripley choice” for dealing with the wholesale treason of Washington DC:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s1MspmfEwg
I don’t get out all the time (from the underground command post, deep in the bowels of the hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building) … will someone tell me if they see a bright flash from the DC direction? I’ve got some champagne cooling … :)