Yes, I'm afraid that you are probably correct in your comment about iPhones and Blacberries....these people often seem to have a strange set of standards. I'd call it hypocrisy. Having said that, I agree with much that Chris says, whilst also pointing out that the Church of England is a rather wealthy institution that 'owns' large tracts of land - as does the Catholic Church and other religious orders.

Many of The Occupiers, while Protesting, with "Down with The Greedy Corporations" being Chanted in the background, will Whip Out their iPhones, Blackberries, etc. and Pull The Trigger on stock trades. You know, to make a few quid/bucks/dinars/lire, etc. during these idle hours of World Change.

Yes, I'm afraid that you are probably correct in your comment about iPhones and Blacberries....these people often seem to have a strange set of standards. I'd call it hypocrisy. Having said that, I agree with much that Chris says, whilst also pointing out that the Church of England is a rather wealthy institution that 'owns' large tracts of land - as does the Catholic Church and other religious orders.

They are just the same greedy bastards they protest against. The only difference is they don't have the brain power to figure out how to get money.

To get money, find an idiot and hire him to do something some other idiot wants done and is willing to pay more for than the idiot you hired charges. If you are the idiot making it, your time is all used up. If you are the middle man, you have time free to do it again and again ergo you get rich.

But using a soft target like St. Pauls is out of order, and has to stop. I therfore stand by my comments about the slurry treatment. Shut down any bank you like including the Bank of England if you want, but leave the Cathedral alone.

Unlike churches here (U.S.), in England the church is aligned with the government. I can't say I agree with targeting the Church of England but one has to look at what they are saying and how closely they align themselves with the position of the Crown.

But using a soft target like St. Pauls is out of order, and has to stop. I therfore stand by my comments about the slurry treatment. Shut down any bank you like including the Bank of England if you want, but leave the Cathedral alone.

Yes, I'm afraid that you are probably correct in your comment about iPhones and Blacberries....these people often seem to have a strange set of standards. I'd call it hypocrisy. Having said that, I agree with much that Chris says, whilst also pointing out that the Church of England is a rather wealthy institution that 'owns' large tracts of land - as does the Catholic Church and other religious orders.

To avoid the accusation of hypocrisy, the protesters should do what? Give up all their worldly possessions?I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Yes, I'm afraid that you are probably correct in your comment about iPhones and Blacberries....these people often seem to have a strange set of standards. I'd call it hypocrisy. Having said that, I agree with much that Chris says, whilst also pointing out that the Church of England is a rather wealthy institution that 'owns' large tracts of land - as does the Catholic Church and other religious orders.

They are just the same greedy bastards they protest against. The only difference is they don't have the brain power to figure out how to get money.

To get money, find an idiot and hire him to do something some other idiot wants done and is willing to pay more for than the idiot you hired charges. If you are the idiot making it, your time is all used up. If you are the middle man, you have time free to do it again and again ergo you get rich.

So the people who work for a living are idiots.

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Yes, I'm afraid that you are probably correct in your comment about iPhones and Blacberries....these people often seem to have a strange set of standards. I'd call it hypocrisy. Having said that, I agree with much that Chris says, whilst also pointing out that the Church of England is a rather wealthy institution that 'owns' large tracts of land - as does the Catholic Church and other religious orders.

To avoid the accusation of hypocrisy, the protesters should do what? Give up all their worldly possessions?

Well, they could, as is being widely reported over here, actually occupy their 'camp' 24/7, instead of treating their 'cause' as a 9 to 5 job and going back to their nice comfy beds and hot meals, at night! Part-time protesters, going back home in the evenings and not having to do without home comforts, like, no doubt, food bought from a large company? Apparently, some of these protesters also have to do things like look after their children and go to work, too, as they don't want to lose their jobs. You couldn't make up hypocrisy of that magnitude! Maybe the council responsible for street cleaning should simply remove all the vacant tents overnight and leave the 'protesters' a summons for 'fly-tipping'. Strictly speaking, under Anti-terrorism legislation, their vacant tents can be removed without warning and possibly destroyed by the Security Services at any time......

Yes, I'm afraid that you are probably correct in your comment about iPhones and Blacberries....these people often seem to have a strange set of standards. I'd call it hypocrisy. Having said that, I agree with much that Chris says, whilst also pointing out that the Church of England is a rather wealthy institution that 'owns' large tracts of land - as does the Catholic Church and other religious orders.

To avoid the accusation of hypocrisy, the protesters should do what? Give up all their worldly possessions?

Well, they could, as is being widely reported over here, actually occupy their 'camp' 24/7, instead of treating their 'cause' as a 9 to 5 job and going back to their nice comfy beds and hot meals, at night! Part-time protesters, going back home in the evenings and not having to do without home comforts, like, no doubt, food bought from a large company? Apparently, some of these protesters also have to do things like look after their children and go to work, too, as they don't want to lose their jobs. You couldn't make up hypocrisy of that magnitude! Maybe the council responsible for street cleaning should simply remove all the vacant tents overnight and leave the 'protesters' a summons for 'fly-tipping'. Strictly speaking, under Anti-terrorism legislation, their vacant tents can be removed without warning and possibly destroyed by the Security Services at any time......

I see, so in order to protest growing inequity in wealth distribution, one has to put themselves out of work and thereby ensure one contributes to that growing inequity? What else gets added to the list to avoid the charge of hypocrisy? Thus far we have cell phones, hot food, comfy beds, children, jobs and food bought from large companies.I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

You tell me! They seem pretty lame, compared to the CND protesters that we used to get 'camped' outside the main gate of the RAF station I was stationed at, years ago. Perhaps the modern 'protester', enjoys rather too much, the 'gifts' that the system they hate so much, allows them to have, or lacks that level of conviction.

From a personal perspective, when people were paid by cash for the work they'd done, at the end of the week, the banks were a place you might put your spare cash into. Once the method by which one was paid (and the frequency), changed, the banks then had vast sums of money to 'play with'....in total, massive sums that would never have been 'available' to them, when we were paid in cash. So, what changed all that? You will find no argument from me, that the banks need to be more strictly controlled....especially if you'd paid out some of the insanely high bank charges that I have.

Yes, I'm afraid that you are probably correct in your comment about iPhones and Blacberries....these people often seem to have a strange set of standards. I'd call it hypocrisy. Having said that, I agree with much that Chris says, whilst also pointing out that the Church of England is a rather wealthy institution that 'owns' large tracts of land - as does the Catholic Church and other religious orders.

They are just the same greedy bastards they protest against. The only difference is they don't have the brain power to figure out how to get money.

To get money, find an idiot and hire him to do something some other idiot wants done and is willing to pay more for than the idiot you hired charges. If you are the idiot making it, your time is all used up. If you are the middle man, you have time free to do it again and again ergo you get rich.

So the people who work for a living are idiots.

What a marvellous view of your fellow man you have.

Not me, just the 99% version of what the payout for risk should be. If you work for someone you take on zero risk and your pay shows that. Own the business and you take on all the risk and your pay shows that. It is the 99% who sets how much that risk avoidance is worth.

No different than a bank account that pays 0.001% interest and the stock market. Risk vs. reward.

Not me, just the 99% version of what the payout for risk should be. If you work for someone you take on zero risk and your pay shows that. Own the business and you take on all the risk and your pay shows that. It is the 99% who sets how much that risk avoidance is worth.

No Government or Corporation has held inordinate sway on me lately. Maybe today?

I'll be checking The News on my Corporate Made TV and Computer(well, I assembled the Corporate Parts into a Computer of My Sort of Choice}.

As I type this I am wearing a shirt made in Corporate Vietnam; undies made in Corporate Dominican Republic and pants made in Corporate Mexico. Socks in, I dunno, but I'm sure it is Not Made in Corporate Amerika.

I'm lighting this room with a Lights of America CFL bulb, although I'll bet a 1000 Yuan it is not made in Amerika.

All in All, plenty to Protest about, but I'll let you Occupiers do my Heavy Lifting. I'll rant and rave about The Little Things in The Comfort of My Corporate Made Home.

As I type this I am wearing a shirt made in Corporate Vietnam; undies made in Corporate Dominican Republic and pants made in Corporate Mexico. Socks in, I dunno, but I'm sure it is Not Made in Corporate Amerika.

I suppose you bought these items because they were the cheapest, or least cheaper than if they were manufactured in the US or EU.

We as consumers must take some responsibility by demanding things to be ever cheaper..

As I type this I am wearing a shirt made in Corporate Vietnam; undies made in Corporate Dominican Republic and pants made in Corporate Mexico. Socks in, I dunno, but I'm sure it is Not Made in Corporate Amerika.

I suppose you bought these items because they were the cheapest, or least cheaper than if they were manufactured in the US or EU.