The Case Against Kenny

SPOILER WARNING:

Ep 1 - He abandons Shawn, literally runs off, even though his child is safe

Ep 2 - He suggests you might be useful at lockpicking because you're "urban"

Ep 2 - He kills Larry as you're trying to save him

Ep 2 - He tells you he'll back you up handling Danny St John, instead he leaves you to die

Ep 3 - He causes a massive argument at the motel over leaving and is the root cause of the paranoia that leads to Carley, Duck and Katjaa dying.

Ep 3 - He once again leaves you to die as you're trapped under a door

Ep 3 - He drops you while trying to get on the truck

Ep 3 - He fucks you over by blabbing about the girl you kill/leave to die infront of Clem

Ep 3 - He tells you your criminal past will be a factor in getting a place on his boat

Ep 3 - He tells you to leave Lilly behind to die, both at the motel and on the road

Ep 4 - He drops you again when trying to escape up the fire escape.

Ep 4 - He wills you to let Ben die

Ep 4 - He refuses to help save Clem

He stands accused of hypocrisy, selfishness, racism, murder, alcoholism, cowardice, carelessness, trouble making, disloyalty and of being judgemental and uncaring.Kenny defenders, make your case for the accused because I'd gladly use him as a zombie bait given his charge sheet.

He is not a total bastard.Larry's death is better than having him aroundhaving Lilly around makes more deaths.shawn dies anyways so who cares.he refuses to save clem because you've been a bastard to him.this is why all the Lilly lovers are pissed.Kenny is great and does not ration food like someone does.

This is a post which I shall be constantly editing because TT keeps logging be out and deleting my saved stuff so bear with me

With Shawn, for all Kenny knew the farm was falling and zombies were approaching from all sides. His reaction to when his family is in danger is to grab em and GTFO, he's sure as hell not going to leave them alone to help someone else. I understand and forgive this and so should you.

His racist remark seems to show a lack of a proper education and something he grew up with in Florida. It doesn't seem offensive and its not like he treats Lee badly or impolitely so I don't really see why you would be so offended.

If you help Larry, you put Duck and Katjaa of risk of a slow and extremely horrible death, being eaten slowly and picked apart by cannibals. Not to mention Kenny's own and everyone else's lives but that probably means less to Kenny. And you do it for some old bastard who punched you after you got him medicine and who is a general dick to everyone. I don't blame Ken for taking the initiative and doing what you couldn't.

Less leave you to die and more doesn't charge a man with a gun. Again I don't blame him. You put Larry above his family, and risked them getting horrible deaths. Not to mention above Kenny who saved your life when Larry tried to kill you.

I refer to my previous point.

Kenny was obviously right about leaving though. The bandits were clearly attacking constantly and when they stopped, it's clear they were planning something. If they had taken Kenny's advice, Duck and Katjaa and Carely would still be alive. The paranoia was about the traitor givin supplies anyway so you are just wrong.

You blame a guy who was recently shot for accidentally dropping you? Nice

Was this in ep 3? I can't exactly remember but I don't recall Clem hearing about the girl.

Well of course it makes a decision. If you have to choose between convicted murderer and normal person to take on the boat, of course you will choose the normal guy. He would be stupid or lying to just say "Aw that's fine. That's not going to affect my decision on who gets left behind, it doesn't even matter" You should be grateful for the honesty. He told my Lee something different though.

Doing so at both time made sense. At the motel, zombies and bandits were approaching and it was chaos. The group is sitting in a vulnerable RV and they had to leave ASAP. Better one die than the RV getting damaged and they all die. On the road, Lilly had just freaking shot Carely for no good reason. She ha clearly gone crazy and was now a loose cannon. He was proved right when you take her and she steals the RV later on aswell.

The guy was shot, what do ya expect? Blaming him for that makes you look mean.

Well duh! Of course he wants you to kill Ben, he just found out that he was indirectly responsible for his family's death. And we know the family is the thing he cared about most in the world. He hasn't even recovered from the tragedy yet, they died pretty recently. Im surprised he never just shot Ben to be honest.

He refuses to help you because all of the above.

Ok, I did my best to address all of you're points. I gotta go to bed, so if another Pro-Kenny can fight his corner, I would really appreciate it.

Kenny smashed his head in, infront of his daughter and a small child. He didn't even tell Clem to turn away. How difficult would it have been to wait 20 seconds and then crush him if he's a walker? It was a prick move of someone who can't take orders.

TheNNerdGamer;709392 said:

having Lilly around makes more deaths.

Whose fault is that?

TheNNerdGamer;709392 said:

shawn dies anyways so who cares.

Shawn dies because Kenny doesn't help

TheNNerdGamer;709392 said:

he refuses to save clem because you've been a bastard to him.

I saved his child, saved him from the meatlocker, fed his family, shot his zombie child, stopped him from being bit at the start of Ep 4. He's an ungrateful prick

Kenny smashed his head in, infront of his daughter and a small child. He didn't even tell Clem to turn away. How difficult would it have been to wait 20 seconds and then crush him if he's a walker? It was a prick move of someone who can't take orders.

Whose fault is that?

Shawn dies because Kenny doesn't help

I saved his child, saved him from the meatlocker, fed his family, shot his zombie child, stopped him from being bit at the start of Ep 4. He's an ungrateful prick

it depends if you side with Lilly all the time.killing Larry has a huge impact on Kenny.if you kill larry, it doesn't matter to clem if you tell her you couldn't take the zombie risk.you could calm kenny down at the train instead of fighting him.shooting duck is helping Kenny so doesn't affect kenny unless you let kenny shoot him.in ep.1 you can tell him to punch larry.there are a few more things for him to give you the bro speech and help clem.

it depends if you side with Lilly all the time.killing Larry has a huge impact on Kenny.if you kill larry, it doesn't matter to clem if you tell her you couldn't take the zombie risk

Up until the meat locker I backed him over Larry Vs Duck, I played peacemaker in the Leave/Don't Leave argument, I fed him and his child. His "gratitude" was to completely ignore the decision I made to help Larry, smash in Larrys head infront of a child and then leave me for dead against Danny St John. The man has no loyalty whatsoever.

Up until the meat locker I backed him over Larry Vs Duck, I played peacemaker in the Leave/Don't Leave argument, I fed him and his child. His "gratitude" was to completely ignore the decision I made to help Larry, smash in Larrys head infront of a child and then leave me for dead against Danny St John. The man has no loyalty whatsoever.

I should have added a poll to this thread.

in the end he could make you a bro speech if you sided with him a 90%.Larry's death has an impact of 40%