If there are so many,third party deals going on would it be easier to get rid of them so every team is on the same page ban them if your caught out you loose all points for that season ,not just for major cap breaches

Non - Affiliated Third Party agreements were introduced so players were not restricted in what they could earn from their own intellectual property...you can not stop a Billy Slater earning money from Gatorade based on HIS profile for example..they follow the player not the Club he plays for..

There are restrictions in place for Club Affiliated TPA's

The problem lies where many believe the richer Clubs arrange these Non-Affiliated TPA's when they are meant to be only between a player and the third party..

All TPA's must be approved by the NRL...do Clubs cheat ..probably.. but without some sought of whistle blower which has happened with every major breach in the past Clubs will continue to push the envelope..

If there are so many,third party deals going on would it be easier to get rid of them so every team is on the same page ban them if your caught out you loose all points for that season ,not just for major cap breaches

If there are so many,third party deals going on would it be easier to get rid of them so every team is on the same page ban them if your caught out you loose all points for that season ,not just for major cap breaches

It is an unreasonable restraint of trade to ban them.

That is true - so there must be a system put in place that controls them - or it is open slather as usual.

If there are so many,third party deals going on would it be easier to get rid of them so every team is on the same page ban them if your caught out you loose all points for that season ,not just for major cap breaches

It is an unreasonable restraint of trade to ban them.

That is true - so there must be a system put in place that controls them - or it is open slather as usual.

It's open slather. If there were controls plenty of clubs would be busted for initiating the deals. I have no doubt that the clubs that manage to secure players with significant external TPA's have some sort of dealings in them.

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If there are so many,third party deals going on would it be easier to get rid of them so every team is on the same page ban them if your caught out you loose all points for that season ,not just for major cap breaches

It is an unreasonable restraint of trade to ban them.

That is true - so there must be a system put in place that controls them - or it is open slather as usual.

A central register for all non club affiliated TPA's is the only solution, but no chance in hell of the players association agreeing to it, particularly as most, if not all of it's leadership could be benefiting from these alleged insider deals.

Self interest at all levels is the problem, just as society in general, with most more worried about having a bigger boat or similar, whilst not really caring about their much lower paid teammates or struggling neighbours.

As I understand it webjet or a similar company would kick in $500,000 for Hayne to feature in their adds, but only if he signed with the Gold Coast Titans?

Look I get it. Were going to get superstars. Superstars will get corporate sponsorships and that's natural, in fact we probably want to encourage this. Like sponsorship to the NRL, get and keep the big names i.e. Israel Folau, Ingles, your Slater/Smith, etc.

We just need to balance our teams out somehow. My thoughts are a Marquee player allowance. Have one guy go to the moon, then if they want that million dollar Adidas sponsorship, the titans or whoever can pick them up. It should mix the teams up a bit as some will put it on Fullbacks while others will put it on Forwards.

If there are so many,third party deals going on would it be easier to get rid of them so every team is on the same page ban them if your caught out you loose all points for that season ,not just for major cap breaches

It is an unreasonable restraint of trade to ban them.

That is true - so there must be a system put in place that controls them - or it is open slather as usual.

A central register for all non club affiliated TPA's is the only solution, but no chance in hell of the players association agreeing to it, particularly as most, if not all of it's leadership could be benefiting from these alleged insider deals.

I believe all legit TPAs must be registered w the NRL? NRL clubs are not allowed guarantee TPAs so the hard part is proving they aren't being guaranteed by the club.

If there are so many,third party deals going on would it be easier to get rid of them so every team is on the same page ban them if your caught out you loose all points for that season ,not just for major cap breaches

As far as I'm concerned that would be the best thing to put every club on a level playing field, but I can't see that happening

Until they reformat the Salary Cap so it is not based on $'s, clubs will rort the cap.

I've been advocating this for years with my friends.
A similar system to Supercoach, where players are rated on their level and all teams have the same skill/experience level.
Eg: Australian player worth 50 points
SOS player worth x points
200 NRL game player worth x points etc.

Until they reformat the Salary Cap so it is not based on $'s, clubs will rort the cap.

I've been advocating this for years with my friends.
A similar system to Supercoach, where players are rated on their level and all teams have the same skill/experience level.
Eg: Australian player worth 50 points
SOS player worth x points
200 NRL game player worth x points etc.

The problem with this system is what happens when you sign players for 3 and 4 years and they make SOS or the Australian team so you are over the cap through developing players.

How long is a player worth the SOS or Australian team points? If a player plays one game are they worth those points for their entire careers.

Until they reformat the Salary Cap so it is not based on $'s, clubs will rort the cap.

I've been advocating this for years with my friends.
A similar system to Supercoach, where players are rated on their level and all teams have the same skill/experience level.
Eg: Australian player worth 50 points
SOS player worth x points
200 NRL game player worth x points etc.

The problem with this system is what happens when you sign players for 3 and 4 years and they make SOS or the Australian team so you are over the cap through developing players.

How long is a player worth the SOS or Australian team points? If a player plays one game are they worth those points for their entire careers.

No matter what system you use there are going to be problems.

Anything has to be better then the current system where some clubs can manipulate the salary cap with TPA's.
Sign a player like SBW for $400k and give him $500k TPA.
Is that fair?
Don't think so, when the idea behind the salary cap was to create a level playing field.

Until they reformat the Salary Cap so it is not based on $'s, clubs will rort the cap.

I've been advocating this for years with my friends.
A similar system to Supercoach, where players are rated on their level and all teams have the same skill/experience level.
Eg: Australian player worth 50 points
SOS player worth x points
200 NRL game player worth x points etc.

The problem with this system is what happens when you sign players for 3 and 4 years and they make SOS or the Australian team so you are over the cap through developing players.

How long is a player worth the SOS or Australian team points? If a player plays one game are they worth those points for their entire careers.

No matter what system you use there are going to be problems.

Anything has to be better then the current system where some clubs can manipulate the salary cap with TPA's.
Sign a player like SBW for $400k and give him $500k TPA.
Is that fair?
Don't think so, when the idea behind the salary cap was to create a level playing field.

I agree the current system favours some clubs over others and is not ideal. TPA should have to go through the NRL and be negotiated with the NRL.