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I know you're right, but considering all the hype is about Charizard and the thread is even titled 'Official Charizard Thread' it seems reasonable to only list Charizard's battles, especially because people only ever remember his battles the most cause they're the most epic.

I get the feeling that people don't want to mention his Charmander/Charmeleon battles because they'll make Charizard look bad. :x

But whatever. Like I said before, there isn't really a good reason for Charizard to be in Episode N. Everything that he could do could be done by Zekrom or another Gen 5 Pokemon.

I get the feeling that people don't want to mention his Charmander/Charmeleon battles because they'll make Charizard look bad. :x

But whatever. Like I said before, there isn't really a good reason for Charizard to be in Episode N. Everything that he could do could be done by Zekrom or another Gen 5 Pokemon.

Charmander actually got a lot of wins. I re-watched Kanto the other day and even as a Charmander, I think he was stronger than Bulbasaur and Squirtle. Charmeleon on the other hand was only a Charmeleon for a very short time.

I know you're right, but considering all the hype is about Charizard and the thread is even titled 'Official Charizard Thread' it seems reasonable to only list Charizard's battles, especially because people only ever remember his battles the most cause they're the most epic.

Actually, Weepinbell, Golbat and Primeape and the Exeggutors make for quite a good battle record. Except for the loss against Paras, Charmander/meleon did pretty good!

I get the feeling that people don't want to mention his Charmander/Charmeleon battles because they'll make Charizard look bad. :x

But whatever. Like I said before, there isn't really a good reason for Charizard to be in Episode N. Everything that he could do could be done by Zekrom or another Gen 5 Pokemon.

They will make him look bad? Did you even watched the original series? It is a god given gift to have Charizard on the show. Not to mention he was a Charmander when Ash just started, so his trianer did a lot more mistakes than now. He still has an awesome record with that.

I don't understand what you're trying to say, but at the end of the day Charizard is only returning to entertain the fans and make BW more interesting. The same with any conceptial idea they introduct into the show.

Um why? I know Charmander had a fair few battles, but at least imo they weren't half as epic as any of Charizard's battles. Charmeleon barely had any cause he was only around for 3 episodes.

We'll have to agree to disagree, because none of Charizard's battles have been epic imo.

Originally Posted by Haunter227

It's amazing how Charizard has received a such a good reception in the franchise since he's been around.

It's strange to me given that the last time Charizard appeared was in AG, and it's been 6+ years since then. All the kids who saw him in the anime back then have grown up and many probably don't watch the anime any more. So who are the writers trying to appease here? Older fans? I doubt they'll all tune in just to see one Pokemon. :x

Yeaaaaaah, a lot of Pokémon fans would have to disagree with you on that.

Well that's fine. But personally, I'm not going to like Charizard and praise his every move just because almost everyone else does; I won't give into peer pressure. Charizard lost Ash two Leagues, plus who knows how many other battles while he was being disobedient. I'm not going to forgive him for causing so many problems back in OS. :x

Originally Posted by Pokemaniac24

I have no idea. So the people who don't like Charizard shouldn't watch Pokémon? WHY NOT!?

I honestly thought that was a joke. Nothing to get worked up over in my opinion.

Well that's fine. But personally, I'm not going to like Charizard and praise his every move just because almost everyone else does; I won't give into peer pressure. Charizard lost Ash two Leagues, plus who knows how many other battles while he was being disobedient. I'm not going to forgive him for causing so many problems back in OS. :x

ASH lost the Kanto League for Ash, not Charizard. And about the Johto League, why are you blaming Charizard for Ash losing? Because he was the last Pokémon to faint? Without Charizard, who knows if Ash would beat Gary?

Originally Posted by Ciccone

I honestly thought that was a joke. Nothing to get worked up over in my opinion.

We'll have to agree to disagree, because none of Charizard's battles have been epic imo.

Of course you're entitled to your own opinion, but i disagree massively here because I feel most of Charizard's battles have been the best in the entire series. I know for a fact that a tonne of other fans agree.

Anyway, fair enough.

It's strange to me given that the last time Charizard appeared was in AG, and it's been 6+ years since then. All the kids who saw him in the anime back then have grown up and many probably don't watch the anime any more. So who are the writers trying to appease here? Older fans? I doubt they'll all tune in just to see one Pokemon. :x

I know what you mean, and that's exactly what i'm trying to say. Charizard is so incredibly popular in the franchise let alone the anime, it's no surprise they brought him back and myself and a lot of other people are pleased.