I wonder could Bird and Ainge have a deal in mind to get Posey back to Boston via Indiana?? Bird wanted to unload Murphy's deal and he got Collison. The Pacers are forming a good young nucleus there. I guess this definately spells the end for TJ Ford.

Ariza shot the ball horribly last year. I think he gave many people the false impression he was developing into a front line scorer with all his 20-30 point games. But that was really the more the case of him jacking up 20-25 shots a game.

I don't think we have any trade chips left to land Posey. Ainge did say the other day the 15th roster spot would most likley be a vet min player.

Yes sir!!!! As I alluded to in the "BRING BACK TOINE" thread which sadly no longer exists, the Pacers were likely to trade Troy Murphy. And NOW, they are likely to consider buyouts of both TJ Ford and James Posey.

HMMMM MAYBE THE TOINE AND ONLY WILL BE ON THEIR RADAR NOW

Indy could use a veteran replacement--"stretch 4" on the cheap--for Murphy... Larry Bird's career playoff 3PT FG%--32.1%... Antoine Walker's-- 35.2%. I mean, it's gotta be one or the other, right??

Could Waltah McCarty, Vitaly "Do you got the time" Potapenko, Jimmy O'Brien and Antoine Walker be reunited again?? That team is STARVING for veteran leadership and someone to help prevent Lance "Born Ready" Stephenson and the other young Pacers from making the same kinds of financial mistakes....Stay tuned!!

Murphy is a very good player. Nets did well getting him. Collisson is a good young point guard who IMO is too good to be a backup. He really played well during C.Paul's absence last season. Obviously Houston wasn't too happy with Ariza after just one season.

As far as I'm aware .. Sheed's contract number is never off the Celtics books even if they buy him out. It just gets reduced and spread out:

63. How do buy-outs affect a team's salary cap?

The agreed-upon buy-out amount (see question number 62) is included in the team salary instead of the salary called for in the contract. If the player had more than one season left on his contract, then the buy-out money is distributed among those seasons in proportion to the original salary. For example, say a player had three seasons remaining on his contract, with salaries of $10 million, $11 million and $12 million. The player and team agree to a buyout of $15 million. The $15 million is therefore charged to the team salary over the three seasons. Since the original contract had $33 million left to be paid, and $10 million is 30.3% of $33 million, 30.3% of the $15 million buyout, or $4.545 million, is included in the team salary in the first season following the buyout. Likewise, 33.33% of $15 million, or $5 million, is included in the team salary in the second season, and 36.36% of $15 million, or $5.455 million, is included in the team salary in the third season.

The distribution of the buy-out money is a matter of individual negotiation. Changing the number of years in which the money is paid does not change the number of years in which the team's team salary is charged. In the above example in which the player's contract is bought out with three seasons remaining, the buyout amount is always charged to the team salary over three seasons. It does not matter if the player is actually paid in a lump sum or over 20 years (a spread provision).

i dont understand why the c's would buy him out at all. Honor the contract as signed or retire. If you retire, the contract should be null and void. Seems like a way to circumvent the salary cap to me. Why not always sign a 4-5 year contract to an aging vet at the VM, and then just buy out the remaining 3-4 years at 95% of the total and the guy gets a "deal" of 3-4 times the VM? Just seems wrong to me.

The answer is that, even if you pay him nothing, the player's salary remains on your cap. The only exception is for players who retire due to injury. See Coon's FAQ #55. If you are in luxury tax territory, a buyout at a reduced amount could actually save money, or at least break even. Plus, it does not annoy the player's agent who wants to be paid something too and who is someone you will have to deal with going forward.

The answer is that, even if you pay him nothing, the player's salary remains on your cap. The only exception is for players who retire due to injury. See Coon's FAQ #55. If you are in luxury tax territory, a buyout at a reduced amount could actually save money, or at least break even. Plus, it does not annoy the player's agent who wants to be paid something too and who is someone you will have to deal with going forward.Posted by jm02130

Dumb rule...retired player should have his salary just go away, and then not be able to return for 2 years, to prevent a team jumper. simple, final, and clean. If the player wants to retire, he should get $0.00. You are going to pay him to do nothing!!! I want that deal.