I don’t find USA women attractive

When I first learned about the difference in USA woman and international women, I thought “well, I will keep my standards high and keep looking in the USA”.

Eventually I realized I would no longer find a woman nearly decent enough to be with in my generation (I am 27) in the USA.

Of course I discovered the difference in USA women and international women it was 1999. By 2003 I gave up looking at the USA women (I do think the women did get even that much worse in 4 years, and I woke up more and more to their BS).

By about Jan. 2005 I realized I no longer even find USA women attractive. My mind is focused so much on my finances and early retirement I don’t care. But the women have gotten so bad here, they cannot even distract me.

First off what percent of women are out of shape? Probably 90%? I don’t bust my ass in the gym since I was in high school to date some lazy twat that doesn’t even take care of herself. If she can take care of herself, how the hell will she do anything productive in her life?

And this is all turning me off, before I even say “hi” to them. My god. They have already turned me off, before even saying “hello”. And we all know what comes after “hello” something like “blah, blah, blah, me, me, me, friends, friends, friends, blah, blah, blah”. I could ask “what do you think of this world situation, or that news item” and 99/100 times you get a blank stupid stare.

Then take one last component. These women were GIVEN EQUALITY. They didn’t earn it, they were GIVEN equality. And THIS IS HOW THEY SHOW THEIR APPRECIATION??????

GO TO HELL AMERISKANKS, I WILL BE MUCH HAPPIER SINGLE.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by Citadel on Feb 10, 2006, 9:27pm

I hear you bud. It’s a sad state of affairs.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by niceguy78 on Feb 10, 2006, 10:18pm

Amazing, flat amazing. They are so bad they make a straight man, who is 27 and in the best shape of his life, turned OFF.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by celibateforlife on Feb 10, 2006, 10:48pm

I am certainly not at all attracted to AW, even good looking ones.

What’s the point of having a gorgeous woman with a wretched heart?
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by Pomgran on Feb 11, 2006, 2:05am

Feb 10, 2006, 10:48pm, celibateforlife wrote:I am certainly not at all attracted to AW, even good looking ones.

Yes they do but they unfortunately have a Reptilian Brain. Their higher Brain functions are not put to use anymore. It is seldom you can actually engage an AW in a real conversation of substance. If a Woman cannot talk to me about something of substance she needs to move on the the Thug who will be nailing her tonight.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by savageone on Feb 11, 2006, 10:09am

Amazing, flat amazing. They are so bad they make a straight man, who is 27 and in the best shape of his life, turned OFF.

I am about the same as you. Straight, 27, in excellent shape, and very disgusted by my options in the US. I don’t hold out much hope for finding a truly loving, caring women here anymore. I really feel for those younger than us, as they will no doubt have it even worse. Oh well, it’s all headed down the shitter anyway. Good luck to you.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by Citadel on Feb 11, 2006, 12:44pm

Quote:Amazing, flat amazing. They are so bad they make a straight man, who is 27 and in the best shape of his life, turned OFF.

I’m 25/male and I’m also turned off by 98% of AW’s.

I live in Jersey and went to Burger King drive through last night for dinner after my exercises. As I pulled up to the window to get my stuff there was a new girl about 18 years old and I asked her for ketchup. Then I started to put the my change into my wallet in the meantime like I usually do. She opened the window again and said “Come onnnnnnnnnnnnn come onnnnnnnnnn come onnnnnnnnnnn it’s freeeeeeezing!” and I thought I’d joke back and showed her my change and that I was putting it in my wallet and I said “Well you’ll have to wait” in a humorous tone. And guess what?

She got red in the face and said “NO YOU WAIT!” and gave me my stuff, then closed the window. That’s when I realized she hadn’t been joking in the least bit when she’d told me to speed up. Anyway, I always get a straw and this time she’d forgotten to give it. So I tapped the window and she looked at me, then kept doing whatever she was doing. I thought she was busy so I sat there about 20 seconds but she didn’t look again, so I had to drive off.

I don’t know about anyone else but I thought that whole exchange by her was rude behavior
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by anon on Feb 11, 2006, 1:05pm

I can’t imagine that 100% of AW are out of shape, stupid, and rude. I suspect instead that there is a problem with you gentlemen. I completely respect your decision to not marry or even to bad mouth AW. However I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that there is some underlying “mom” issues. Either that or you have picked idiots in the past that have broken your hearts and now you are turned off completely. I wish you all the best and hope you find someone you can make a real connection with.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by anon on Feb 11, 2006, 1:09pm

Oh and Citadel, I can’t imagine you are trying say that your bad customer service situation was the fault of women. I have received poor customer service from both women and men in the past. I would say this reflects on society in general and the state of the service industry.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by phil on Feb 11, 2006, 1:18pm

Feb 11, 2006, 1:05pm, anon wrote:I can’t imagine that 100% of AW are out of shape, stupid, and rude. I suspect instead that there is a problem with you gentlemen. I completely respect your decision to not marry or even to bad mouth AW. However I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that there is some underlying “mom” issues. Either that or you have picked idiots in the past that have broken your hearts and now you are turned off completely. I wish you all the best and hope you find someone you can make a real connection with.

Actually, it’s not a Mom issue.

My Mom agrees that modern American Women and complete fucking shit bags.

I come from a stable two parent home – my parents are still together (40 years).

My Mom is cherished in my family. She is the foundation of the family. She is traditional. Mom at home. Dad at work.

Feb 11, 2006, 1:05pm, anon wrote:I can’t imagine that 100% of AW are out of shape, stupid, and rude. I suspect instead that there is a problem with you gentlemen. I completely respect your decision to not marry or even to bad mouth AW. However I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that there is some underlying “mom” issues. Either that or you have picked idiots in the past that have broken your hearts and now you are turned off completely. I wish you all the best and hope you find someone you can make a real connection with.

It seems your capacity to imagine, as well as your ability to perceive reality, may be a bit limited. You respect our decision, but suspect a psychological problem underlying the decision?! Have you experienced AW in colleges and grad schools, at work, while dating, at the stores??? Not to mention in marriage and in court???

I say get you head out of the sand and look around before giving such a lame “explanation”. There are good reasons why good men are going their own way. The underlying reason is the change of the female attitude/expectations toward men and society. Another is changing laws and practices which favor women and discriminate against men.

Do you find AW attractive? Do they by and large make it pleasant and worthwhile to approach them and live with them? How about sex? How about honesty, respect, loyalty? Is it dangerous to be with them both legally and regarding one’s health?! There are many issues but let me stop here to give you a chance to “ponder”…

Feb 11, 2006, 1:05pm, anon wrote:I can’t imagine that 100% of AW are out of shape, stupid, and rude. I suspect instead that there is a problem with you gentlemen. I completely respect your decision to not marry or even to bad mouth AW. However I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that there is some underlying “mom” issues. Either that or you have picked idiots in the past that have broken your hearts and now you are turned off completely. I wish you all the best and hope you find someone you can make a real connection with.

Well, sounds like you either have intelligence issues, or you have reading comprehension issues. If you are a man, well you are probably lower down on the food chain from most of us here. If you are a woman, well it is expected from an inferior mind.

Quote:Oh and Citadel, I can’t imagine you are trying say that your bad customer service situation was the fault of women. I have received poor customer service from both women and men in the past. I would say this reflects on society in general and the state of the service industry.

I’ve received bad customer service from men before too, duh. But the fact of the matter is: AW’s younger than 30 or 25 are really the pits to deal with. In the past year, I’ve had perhaps 1 male who has given bad customer service. I’ve also had about 5 incidents with females. And the incidents with the women are much worse because they refuse to admit their mistakes. And they’re much ruder.

You may be content to live in a delusional world but many are not. Any way you slice it my good fellow: Your chances of having a bad incident in customer service are increased about 500% if it’s an AW.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by niceguy78 on Feb 11, 2006, 2:30pm

Feb 11, 2006, 2:05pm, Citadel wrote:
Quote:Oh and Citadel, I can’t imagine you are trying say that your bad customer service situation was the fault of women. I have received poor customer service from both women and men in the past. I would say this reflects on society in general and the state of the service industry.

I’ve received bad customer service from men before too, duh. But the fact of the matter is: AW’s younger than 30 or 25 are really the pits to deal with. In the past year, I’ve had perhaps 1 male who has given bad customer service. I’ve also had about 5 incidents with females. And the incidents with the women are much worse because they refuse to admit their mistakes. And they’re much ruder.

You may be content to live in a delusional world but many are not. Any way you slice it my good fellow: Your chances of having a bad incident in customer service are increased about 500% if it’s an AW.

I am the cheapest man you will ever meet, so I rarely shop. But when I do, I do my best to avoid female sales personnel. You either get some rude, lazy twat, or some over aggressive trying to flirt twat.

Feb 11, 2006, 12:44pm, Citadel wrote:
Quote:Amazing, flat amazing. They are so bad they make a straight man, who is 27 and in the best shape of his life, turned OFF.

I’m 25/male and I’m also turned off by 98% of AW’s.

I live in Jersey and went to Burger King drive through last night for dinner after my exercises. As I pulled up to the window to get my stuff there was a new girl about 18 years old and I asked her for ketchup. Then I started to put the my change into my wallet in the meantime like I usually do. She opened the window again and said “Come onnnnnnnnnnnnn come onnnnnnnnnn come onnnnnnnnnnn it’s freeeeeeezing!” and I thought I’d joke back and showed her my change and that I was putting it in my wallet and I said “Well you’ll have to wait” in a humorous tone. And guess what?

She got red in the face and said “NO YOU WAIT!” and gave me my stuff, then closed the window. That’s when I realized she hadn’t been joking in the least bit when she’d told me to speed up. Anyway, I always get a straw and this time she’d forgotten to give it. So I tapped the window and she looked at me, then kept doing whatever she was doing. I thought she was busy so I sat there about 20 seconds but she didn’t look again, so I had to drive off.

I don’t know about anyone else but I thought that whole exchange by her was rude behavior

You should have gone in and complained to her manager. One reason why American women are so rude and out of control is the fact that nobody ever stands up to them. It’s time to put these cunts in their place …
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by Pomgran on Feb 11, 2006, 3:08pm

I live in Jersey and went to Burger King drive through last night for dinner after my exercises. As I pulled up to the window to get my stuff there was a new girl about 18 years old and I asked her for ketchup. Then I started to put the my change into my wallet in the meantime like I usually do. She opened the window again and said “Come onnnnnnnnnnnnn come onnnnnnnnnn come onnnnnnnnnnn it’s freeeeeeezing!” and I thought I’d joke back and showed her my change and that I was putting it in my wallet and I said “Well you’ll have to wait” in a humorous tone. And guess what?

She got red in the face and said “NO YOU WAIT!” and gave me my stuff, then closed the window. That’s when I realized she hadn’t been joking in the least bit when she’d told me to speed up. Anyway, I always get a straw and this time she’d forgotten to give it. So I tapped the window and she looked at me, then kept doing whatever she was doing. I thought she was busy so I sat there about 20 seconds but she didn’t look again, so I had to drive off.

I don’t know about anyone else but I thought that whole exchange by her was rude behavior

You should have gone in and complained to her manager. One reason why American women are so rude and out of control is the fact that nobody ever stands up to them. It’s time to put these cunts in their place …

It’s true, I’ve started standing up and they will fight because they really don’t want you to speak up, but when you do, and they realize you have the power to get their ass fired, they change their tune.

I’ve done this three times in the past few months, these girls kiss may ass now when I go to the stores, they know I have the managers ear or even higher up. It’s also helps when complaining to speak the language the manager understands, money. Pointing out that my walking will cost more to the company than letting the little bitch do her nonsense, usually works.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by Citadel on Feb 11, 2006, 3:42pm

Quote:It’s true, I’ve started standing up and they will fight because they really don’t want you to speak up, but when you do, and they realize you have the power to get their ass fired, they change their tune.

I’ve done this three time in the past few months, these girls kiss may ass now when I go to the stores, they know I have the managers ear or even higher up. It’s also helps when complaining to speak the language the manager understands, money. Pointing out that my walking will cost more to the company than letting the little bitch do her nonsense, usually works.

Agreed. I did complain to the manager politely. Even he was surprised at her behavior. But let’s face it, what can he do? If he fires her, they’re already so short-staffed at this low wage jobs that he’ll have to do the work himself. Or get someone even worse than the person he just fired.

Politeness is traditionally taught in home and schools. Doesn’t happen anymore.

Back in ’76 this kind of thing would have resulted in coworkers teaching the rude employee how to behave. Good ol days weren’t so technologically ahead but they were simple and predictable
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by anon on Feb 11, 2006, 10:47pm

Nice guy- With all due respect you said 90% have let themselves go. You said you are not attracted to ALL AW. I would understand that as 100%. Perhaps you should write slower to make sure you get across your point clearly the first time.
Phil- Thank you for demonstrating my point so incredibly. That was what I was thinking might be going on with some of you on this thread.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by niceguy78 on Feb 11, 2006, 11:12pm

Feb 11, 2006, 10:47pm, anon wrote:Nice guy- With all due respect you said 90% have let themselves go. You said you are not attracted to ALL AW. I would understand that as 100%. Perhaps you should write slower to make sure you get across your point clearly the first time.
Phil- Thank you for demonstrating my point so incredibly. That was what I was thinking might be going on with some of you on this thread.

No, let me try again, and slower this time.

I said 90% of AW let themselves go. But I find none (or 100% in your terms) AW to be attractive.

So this other 10% (who do at least stay in shape) might be physically attractive to me (not even all 10% would be, but at least they try physically). But this 10% would turn me off in OTHER ways. Such as with rude attitude, selfish actions, shitty style, bad mannerisms, lack of any feminine traits, etc.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by Mes on Feb 12, 2006, 12:31am

I look at American women in terms of marginal utility.

Lets say you like ice cream. Ok, ice cream is good.

Lets say ice cream companies cheapen down their ice cream and their ingredients to the point where ice cream is bland, and is just, well, kinda ok.

Now imagine they jack up the price of their ice cream times x20.

Hmm, guess what I’m gonna do.

I like ice cream, but even at its best im not gonna go the hell outta the way to buy a pint of ice cream for $60.

On top of that,I’m not gonna buy ice cream for $60 that is 20x worse than it was 20 years ago, with all its cheap ingredients.

Its too bad. AW have ruined something that used to be good in life. But thats ok. There are substitutes. Foreign women. Some use of Porn. The occasional escort girl. Any reasonable combination of these coupled with moderation and self control should work out. Any man worth half his weight can do this in life and live a good healthy life. Heck, without the weight of some woman dragging him down, he can probably do much better.

I dont miss em. Its not that I don’t like the way they look. Its that I don’t like the way they ARE. I don’t like WHO THEY ARE. Their character. Their souls, if you wish. I like what’s on the outside, but whats on the inside is all rotten and yucky.

So I’ll just find a way to enjoy the outside part of it from time to time, without getting involved with the inside yucky souls that they have. You can do it if you put your mind to it.

And in the meantime I will focus on improving my career and my financial situation, like a laser. I won’t be too negative, and will always leave my mind open enough to notice some truly decent or even good woman out there who wants to be with me without the government contract. She could be out there. But im too grown up to fall for all that old-fashioned non-thinking government bureaucracy bullshit that all too many young men fall for.

Its too bad. AW have ruined something that used ot be good in life. But thats ok. There are substitutes. Foreign women. Some use of Porn. The occasional escort girl. Any reasonable combination of these coupled with moderation and self control should work out. Any man worth half his weight can do this in life and live a good healthy life. Heck, without the weight of some woman dragging him down, he can probably do much better.

I dont miss em. Its not that I don’t like the way they look. Its that I don’t like the way they ARE. I don’t like WHO THEY ARE. Their character. Their souls, if you wish. I like what’s on the outside, but whats on the inside is all rotten and yucky.

So I’ll just find a way to enjoy the outside part of it from time to time, without getting involved with the inside yucky souls that they have. You can do it if you put your mind to it.

Good post. That’s basically my life right now. Of course, women are the same everywhere, and even foreign women can be vipers, as I’ve experienced even in foreign countries.

But if you play your cards just right, odds are you as an American man will have a much more enjoyable experience with a foreign woman than with an American one. Just be careful, don’t fall in love too easily, and stay single.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by niceguy78 on Feb 12, 2006, 3:44am

Here is an example for you. Tonight going out, I saw 1 woman that I said to myself “wow, she is good enough looking, I would be willing to date her”. 1, fucking 1, out of probably 500 women I saw tonight, in the classiest area of the city I live.

She was very attractive (which they will have to be in our backwards society to catch my attention). She wasn’t dressed the best, but good enough. So she fit in the 10% (even less to be honest, probably 1%) of American women I find physically attractive.

But I decided to watch her actions. Within 5 minutes I realize she has her hair in pig tails (I didn’t notice at first, but what the fuck, is she 10 years old?), she smoked two cigarettes (disgusting), and then I notice a tattoo on her shoulder blade (jesus, how many of those disgusting things does she have).

So NEXT. A night out in the classiest area of this city, and the only woman I find physically attractive turns me off within 5 min., without even talking to her.

While I do agree that foreign women on the whole make for better wives than American women do, remember that women are women, wherever you go.

One lesson I learned from other AM friends of mine married to FW was never take for granted your status as an American male. If you get lazy or too complacent, that sweet foreign angel will turn into a she-devil like any other AW. Being nice to your sweet foreign wife is possible as long as you firmly hold her to a standard of acceptable behavior, and do not over-indulge her.

As a rule of thumb, bringing foreign women to the USA is generally a bad idea, unless she is of exceptional character and perhaps a bit older.

I know you guys know all this, but a little reminder now and then doesn’t hurt.

Feb 12, 2006, 6:25am, Scott wrote:While I do agree that foreign women on the whole make for better wives than American women do, remember that women are women, whereever you go.

One lesson I learned from other AM friends of mine married to FW was never take for granted your status as an American male. If you get lazy or too complacent, that sweet foreign angel will turn into a she-devil like any other AW. Being nice to your sweet foreign wife is possible as long as you firmly hold her to a standard of acceptable behavior, and do not over-indulge her.

As a rule of thumb, bringing foreign women to the USA is generally a bad idea, unless she is of exceptional character and perhaps a bit older.

I know you guys know all this, but a little reminder now and then doesn’t hurt.

The problem is NOT American women, the problem IS WOMEN IN AMERICA. No way in hell would I bring a woman to the USA to marry. Just asking for trouble.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by celibateforlife on Feb 12, 2006, 8:17pm

Feb 12, 2006, 1:52pm, niceguy78 wrote:
The problem is NOT American women, the problem IS WOMEN IN AMERICA. No way in hell would I bring a woman to the USA to marry. Just asking for trouble.

Yup, this is a sick culture we live in. Not only do the FW get assimilated in the female american culture, but our divorce system is rigged against the male. And the women exploit it to the max.

Only in America can a wife cheat on her husband and he STILL has to give her half of everything they own.

I lost 75% of my hard-earned 401k; 50% to the ex and 25% to pay off the marital credit card debt ($20,000+) that *SHE* ran up before I filed papers.

I can’t look at an AW without reliving the pain I went through with my scheming feminazi ex.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by niceguy78 on Feb 12, 2006, 8:23pm

Feb 12, 2006, 8:17pm, celibateforlife wrote:
Feb 12, 2006, 1:52pm, niceguy78 wrote:
The problem is NOT American women, the problem IS WOMEN IN AMERICA. No way in hell would I bring a woman to the USA to marry. Just asking for trouble.

Yup, this is a sick culture we live in. Not only do the FW get assimilated in the female american culture, but our divorce system is rigged against the male. And the women exploit it to the max.

Only in America can a wife cheat on her husband and he STILL has to give her half of everything they own.

I lost 75% of my hard-earned 401k; 50% to the ex and 25% to pay off the marital credit card debt ($20,000+) that *SHE* ran up before I filed papers.

I can’t look at an AW without reliving the pain I went through with my scheming feminazi ex.

Damn man sorry to hear it.

We have both learned our lesson. Me the easy way, you the hard way.

But what we must do is take advantage of the lessons we learned (avoid women in the USA) and spread the word.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by pbw on Feb 13, 2006, 1:04am

I was cruising the bars the other night and driving around downtown.

Every girl looked so unattractive. Their attitudes are the cause of their unattraction.

Very few skanks are aware of their attitudes and seem to think their attitudes are quite natural and ok.

These skanks are the most privileged in the world, yet they also have the biggest victim mentality.

One skank got upset the light turned red as she was crossing the street for her. As I drove through the green light, this skank was thinking that I should stop my car so she could walk across (princess mentality)– she then gave me this annoying face gesture and made a fake move to jump in front of my car as I drove by.

That is what skanks are like — would be hell marry one.
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Re: I don’t find USA women attractivePost by jackbauer on Feb 13, 2006, 2:15am

Yesterday I was taking a bus downtown in the city where I live. Two teenage girls were on the other side of the bus just behind me. They got to their stop & were starting to get off. For some reason I glanced over at where they happened to be sitting. One of them left a purse behind. I grabbed it, stood up, & hollered “Miss!”.

Self-absorbed wenches they were, they continued on their way. The one then notices she was missing their purse. She then turns around, grabs the purse from me and says “Geez, it wouldn’t have been good if I left my purse behind”.

Actually it was more like one big sloppy slur at 90 mph “GeezwunnabeengoodifIlefmypursebehine”.

No eye contact. No thank-you. No nothing.

I partly thought “stupid, ungrateful teenagers”. But I bet if it was a young guy who left a wallet or bag behind that he most likely would have had the decency to say “Thank you”.

If a similar opportunity presents itself like this in the future, I’m thinking of saying “Yo, rocket scientist!”

Or at least I could have said “You’re welcome! GEESH!”. Too bad I didn’t think of it at the time….