Post by 777 ΤΟ ΣΚΟΤΆΔΙ ΚΑΙ Ο ΠΑΡΆΔΕΙΣΟ on May 21, 2017 7:08:17 GMT

> but are not so from other perspectives.

Do you believe in equality? If not, then are all perspectives correct or at least worthwhile? Because I hear this excessively and aggressively pushed in the LHP by people who don't understand that certain people were just not chosen for certain paths. Just because some people do not think that Venus is not Satan, doesn't make it true or even worthwhile.

Post by 777 ΤΟ ΣΚΟΤΆΔΙ ΚΑΙ Ο ΠΑΡΆΔΕΙΣΟ on May 21, 2017 20:39:13 GMT

So in other words if you believe in something that would effect your health, it is relevant?

> What does this question look like to the entity that uses this solar system as its current body of manifestation?

Of course nobody has the mental capacity to think about that, break it down, then explain it nonetheless even understand it. Because everything has a chain that expands into other meanings, i.e the Hammer and Sickle means something else to other cultures than the USSR same with Venus.

Post by peter2 on May 21, 2017 21:28:47 GMT

>if you believe in something that would effect your health, it is relevant?

From the greater perspective the health of individual human specimens is rarely of much significance. I was more referring to common beliefs altering the capacity of the human race to fulfill its functions.

>nobody has the mental capacity to think about that, break it down, then explain it

Absolute statements have a tendency to be wrong in that it is usually possible to find exceptions.

Further, the mental capacity in humans may not be the most profound facility.

Post by 777 ΤΟ ΣΚΟΤΆΔΙ ΚΑΙ Ο ΠΑΡΆΔΕΙΣΟ on May 22, 2017 2:17:36 GMT

> common beliefs altering the capacity of the human race to fulfill its functions.

This is a concern to many intellectuals out there however because of exclusivity of capital and information due to our economic systems, there are obvious restrictions to that argument. It is becoming more difficult for the average male in a middle income household to be a productive member in Western society. It's kind of sad even saying that but I'm sure if you'd seen some of things people do nowadays you would be singing a different tune. So don't expect the human race to get better under these current conditions, it is extremely optimistic.

Post by peter2 on May 22, 2017 5:51:20 GMT

>don't expect the human race to get better under these current conditions

About 20 years ago the human race agreed that it was responsible for looking after the planetary ecosystem - and this was despite the efforts of governments and many multi-nationals to continue stripping environmental assets.

The human race is starting to surprise again. It is applying ecosystem principles to the protection of minority human cultures.

Post by 777 ΤΟ ΣΚΟΤΆΔΙ ΚΑΙ Ο ΠΑΡΆΔΕΙΣΟ on May 22, 2017 19:06:37 GMT

I know you might be cringing but I had to put these vibrations out, because people in general are naive to think that because of some heroic doctrine or dogma coming to swoop up humanity and save everyone because of its infinite knowledge and undeniable evidence. Not being nihilistic or pessimistic but the West in general is a cesspool of hypocrisy, corruption, and death. The only places I can see where that principle applies is in high-cultured and wealthy, stable nations like Lichtenstein, Switzerland, Luxembourg, and the Pacific Islands. Otherwise good luck trying to integrate in Miami, St. Petersburg, Beijing and especially Tokyo trust me these people are not playing around they will straight up murder you in mere seconds for just staring at them. Humanity is in decline.

Post by 777 ΤΟ ΣΚΟΤΆΔΙ ΚΑΙ Ο ΠΑΡΆΔΕΙΣΟ on May 23, 2017 1:32:51 GMT

> Their banks are still holding on to monies deposited by Jews

I was rather talking about their current situation minus the migrant crisis, most of the Governments in Western Europe are completely corrupt from back to front. Maybe a couple of years from now they will fall but Switzerland is doing alright as of this moment except for their currency.

> Yet again these illuminati sites are wrong.

You nor I do not have access to the original documents to the Vactian, and probably will never in our lifetimes even if we were hardcore Jesuit sycophants. These websites I show are not 100% bullseye information, I hate it when people say that because I do not have access to Davo's, FitchRatings, Donald Trump's, or any of those top international groups raw E-mails.

> The dark forces encourage humans to be pessimistic about the future.

So Nietzsche was a dark force? William Cooper? Dostoyevsky? Huxley? Brinkley? Bill Hicks? All of these people were 'negative' and but had positive influences of the movements that are currently tearing your organization apart. I have a anti-Mason bias so obviously I'm taking their side but not because I have a vendetta or a screwed perspective on the Lodge but because the very leaders that were responsible for Blacks, Natives, Latinos, Aborginals and other minorities going through racial extermination were mostly Freemasons or Shriners. That's well known these days.

> The light forces encourage optimism as that will help humans work together to lift themselves out of the present karmic difficulties.

I'm not sure what you're getting at. You see, we have had numerous political figures and religious fanatics who were preaching love and peace why before the Lodge was even in anyone's mouth and yet all these nations declined or went into full blown chaos. I will give you examples of nations and people who were ALL about LOVE and PEACE: Emma Goldman, most of those Democrat politicans in the U.S Government, Jesus Christ (contrary to public knowledge), George Washington, all New Agers, et. al. I will use the common argument that Satanists (I'm not a Satanist, but WAIT this is a good one) use which is just because you preach positivity doesn't mean jack, it just means you happen to be more delusional and hippie oriented. I will use a quote from Euronymous to solidify my argument:

"I would never accept any band which preaches Church of Satan ideas, as they are just a bunch of freedom and life-loving atheists, and they stand exactly the opposite of me".

It's absolutely awful that you said that man, 'light forces' are you kidding me? There's no light in the world as we speak buddy, that's why Yahawah is coming back to murder 2/3rds and Esau along with the total destruction of Babylon. That's positive to me brother, seeing millions of heathens getting tortured, hunted down, raped and straight up murdered. Wait until all Hell breaks loose in America and talk about that 'light' garbage when you are starving to death and your mother is getting her head blown off with a AK by martial law troops, thugs and UN firing squads.

Post by peter2 on May 23, 2017 3:33:31 GMT

>Maybe a couple of years from now they will fall but Switzerland is doing alright

Countries not part of the Euro will probably transition more easily.

>> Yet again these illuminati sites are wrong.

>You nor I do not have access to the original documents to the Vactian

When illuminati-type prophecies repeatedly fail, eventually we should be able to move on.

>movements that are currently tearing your organization apart

This may be a surprise to you but English-speaking Freemasonry has been declining for almost a century. Typical Grand Lodges lose membership at about 3% each year. I would argue that English-speaking Freemasonry took a terminally wrong turn in 1717.

>I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Shall I state it again? The human population has agreed to take responsibility for the planetary ecosystem. Governments and most businesses are opposed to this, but that has not deterred Earth humans. Earth humans will overcome the naysayers and resolve their karma. The coming world depression is likely to accelerate that. Each will see the value of cooperation with friends and neighbours and the value of a simple life with access to Nature.

>There's no light in the world as we speak buddy,

Are you sure that your thoughts are your own? That sounds like propaganda designed to disable human intent. How would you test that?

Measure the average consciousness of the people you see in the street. Compare that with 20 years ago. How many sub-planes has the average human advanced in that time?

Or draw a plumb line from on high and connect it to people now and people 20 years ago. What differences are there?

>that's why Yahawah is coming back

Why do you say he went away? Just because the gods hid themselves from humans does not mean that they have gone. Why did they hide? Where did they hide?

Post by 777 ΤΟ ΣΚΟΤΆΔΙ ΚΑΙ Ο ΠΑΡΆΔΕΙΣΟ on May 23, 2017 7:00:37 GMT

> Countries not part of the Euro will probably transition more easily.

I can sort of agree with that, even though the Euro is absolute trash and worth toilet paper, a Ruble or a Lev isn't going to stand a CHANCE against the inflated QE money printing ponzi scheme called the Euro and Petrodollar. Sorry I just don't see it happening, the only currency that is mowing down countries is the Renminbi or Chinese currency.

> When illuminati-type prophecies repeatedly fail, eventually we should be able to move on.

I'm not talking about Mark Dice, Alex Jones, or any of the popular 'conspiracy theorists' because almost all of them are Zionist shills who have serious brain damage and I'm not using that as a insult.

> Governments and most businesses are opposed to this

So eco-anarchism or anarcho-primitivism? You do realize most of that will push us into the 1800's where we all will be forced to rub two sticks together with flint and stone just to make a fire. And what about the petrochemical industry where most of your gas to go to the Lodge comes from? Or biochemical engineering where most of the plastics in your coke bottles (presuming you drink Coke) comes from or your health items to make sure you won't die at the Lodge of a heat stroke? Come on man, think for a second. To be perfectly honest with you when all Hell breaks loose in America after Trump gets assassinated or at least impeached and U.S declares martial law, Ecclesiasticus 40:9-10 will occur here. When that happens, it is going to be Mad Max and within three days there will be no food in the city with tanks rolling through the street.

> Are you sure that your thoughts are your own?

Not according to the Bible, either I got heavy demons on me or the Holy Spirit there is no in between: /watch?v=PvK7YZ2lBeU

> What differences are there?

Human civilization in the present era has advanced in the exact same way the Roman Empire did, we got pipelines and complex architectural designs along with the agricultural revolutions but meanwhile, our men are flaming homosexuals lifting weights and consuming feces as a means to obtain sexual arousement. Then you have the women in our country getting sodomized by donkeys, dogs, horses and even becoming serial child molesters. So yes, human civilization has advanced however humanity has significantly declined. Yet again, the only places don't have these insane penalties (which the list changes) is Turkey, Pakistan, Iran, China, Russia, Bulgaria, Indonesia and Vietnam. Here is proof: twitter.com/Common_Filth

> Why do you say he went away?

This is slang for 'Jesus's second coming is going to happen soon and when he does he will turn America into 1950's China under Mao x 100'.

Post by 777 ΤΟ ΣΚΟΤΆΔΙ ΚΑΙ Ο ΠΑΡΆΔΕΙΣΟ on May 23, 2017 10:08:09 GMT

That's less efficient but it's your forte then fine, but can it run a entire society?

> there is a big push for renewable petrochemical sources including polymers from renewable resources

I'll tell you what, whenever Tesla starts getting serious and pushing out these electric cars like crazy along with alternatives to coal getting more efficient then we can start calling for environmentalism. Judging from the current socioeconomic environment, with the majority of the Western population being crony capitalist and totalitarian, the likelihood for these concepts to even be useful is zip. After all most of these 'alternatives' end up killing alot of people anyways: www.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ecoj.12285/abstract

> Humans are entitled to be free thinkers

This becomes a problem when applied to society, there was this lecture at the Brookings Institute discussing the efficiency of authoritarianism in contrast to democracy: youtube.com/watch?v=YgzH0oMqk8M. What they found was that authoritarianism and strict controls were obviously quicker but also constructive. Most of the daily actions we do anyways secularly speaking is controlled by a outside influence, so man tells us what to do. There is no such thing as freethought, humans at least in this system are truly hopeless galley slaves just like 1984 and BNW. It doesn't matter who you talk to; a average everyday hardworking citizen, a American patriot, a spoiled upper-class university frat boy, your average Anarchist, Communist, Conservative, all of them man. They hate their lives trust me, they hate this society and their government, and some with a passion. Look at the Gallup Economic Confidence Index: www.gallup.com/poll/151550/Gallup-Daily-Economic-Confidence-Index.aspx.

Personally if you ask me, I strongly believe that most Americans are tapped out, depressed and ready to commit suicide at note's notice. America is just one giant cesspool of extremely depraved, sick, deformed, retarded, and depressed subhuman creatures who are mindless galley slaves as one Iranian politician decided that America is the Great Satan. And all of these wicked cult members are going to be wiped out by thermonuclear missiles from Russia and China, when Trump gets this World War III popping off. Just give up man, America is truly finished. You are witnessing the collapse and complete breakdown of one of the worst destructive societies to exist in all of recorded human history.

> St. Paul thought so too.

America already has the RFID chip ready for all those slobbering to take it. Autistic children, pets, animals, patients, etc. If you cannot see that something terrible and shockingly grotesque is coming to America and soon after the world then you are delusional. It is going to be all-out chaos and grave terror all throughout the States, Holy Wars, Civil Wars, Race Wars, Class Wars, and eventually World War that will absolutely expunge all of human civilization as we know it. And I'm praying that this finally happens so that I can join the next Salem Witch Hunt, good luck in the race riots brother.

omni: In my Lodge the Secretary is a hugh bully along with control issues. if anyone even asks a question he files masonic charges against them. He controls members mostly because they are afraid of him.Apr 16, 2018 1:07:49 GMT

foriamhim: To omni: Grow some balls, that lodge is yours as well as every member in that lodge. If you are right, its not your problem. Nobody likes the ugliness of masonic charges. Light will always illuminate darkness, don't be afraid, be a better man. May 27, 2018 15:37:09 GMT*

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