I've never been the same since I witnessed a large evil eye placed on the iconostasis of the orthodox church in "greek town" section of Baltimore. With all the more important matters learn to ignore such things.

The garlic necklace is a new concept however. Is this something real? Perhaps that is a romanian idea? (count dracula etc.)

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"and for all who are Orthodox, and who hold the Catholic and Apostolic Faith, remember, O Lord, thy servants" - yet the post-conciliar RC hierarchy is tolerant of everyone and everything... except Catholic Tradition, for modernists are as salt with no taste, to be “thrown out and trampled under foot

I've never been the same since I witnessed a large evil eye placed on the iconostasis of the orthodox church in "greek town" section of Baltimore. With all the more important matters learn to ignore such things.

The garlic necklace is a new concept however. Is this something real? Perhaps that is a romanian idea? (count dracula etc.)

Did you ever see MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING?

They mention quite a few Greek superstitions.

A certain Greek Orthodox Christian (who rarely goes to church and who will not be named) could offer a course on Greek Superstitions 101 as she abides by them all. And she gets so very sensitive if I manage to violate a hidden Greek Taboo. It is beyond ridiculous.

Her little daughters must wear a clove of garlic around their necks whenever someone says they are pretty.Garlic is so smelly that it is said to chase the demons of vanity and pride away. Wish that were so simple. I would rather wear the Cross around my neck than gag on garlic.

Indeed, some superdox Greek Orthodox Yiayias swear by all these Greek superstitions. As far as they are concerned, they are part of the canons of the Orthodox Church.

I've never been the same since I witnessed a large evil eye placed on the iconostasis of the orthodox church in "greek town" section of Baltimore. With all the more important matters learn to ignore such things.

The garlic necklace is a new concept however. Is this something real? Perhaps that is a romanian idea? (count dracula etc.)

Did you ever see MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING?

They mention quite a few Greek superstitions.

A certain Greek Orthodox Christian (who rarely goes to church and who will not be named) could offer a course on Greek Superstitions 101 as she abides by them all. And she gets so very sensitive if I manage to violate a hidden Greek Taboo. It is beyond ridiculous.

Her little daughters must wear a clove of garlic around their necks whenever someone says they are pretty.Garlic is so smelly that it is said to chase the demons of vanity and pride away. Wish that were so simple. I would rather wear the Cross around my neck than gag on garlic.

Indeed, some superdox Greek Orthodox Yiayias swear by all these Greek superstitions. As far as they are concerned, they are part of the canons of the Orthodox Church.

Without the pangyros, superstitions, and car raffles, what else is there?

I've never been the same since I witnessed a large evil eye placed on the iconostasis of the orthodox church in "greek town" section of Baltimore. With all the more important matters learn to ignore such things.

The garlic necklace is a new concept however. Is this something real? Perhaps that is a romanian idea? (count dracula etc.)

Did you ever see MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING?

They mention quite a few Greek superstitions.

A certain Greek Orthodox Christian (who rarely goes to church and who will not be named) could offer a course on Greek Superstitions 101 as she abides by them all. And she gets so very sensitive if I manage to violate a hidden Greek Taboo. It is beyond ridiculous.

Her little daughters must wear a clove of garlic around their necks whenever someone says they are pretty.Garlic is so smelly that it is said to chase the demons of vanity and pride away. Wish that were so simple. I would rather wear the Cross around my neck than gag on garlic.

Indeed, some superdox Greek Orthodox Yiayias swear by all these Greek superstitions. As far as they are concerned, they are part of the canons of the Orthodox Church.

Without the pangyros, superstitions, and car raffles, what else is there?

I've never been the same since I witnessed a large evil eye placed on the iconostasis of the orthodox church in "greek town" section of Baltimore. With all the more important matters learn to ignore such things.

The garlic necklace is a new concept however. Is this something real? Perhaps that is a romanian idea? (count dracula etc.)

Did you ever see MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING?

They mention quite a few Greek superstitions.

A certain Greek Orthodox Christian (who rarely goes to church and who will not be named) could offer a course on Greek Superstitions 101 as she abides by them all. And she gets so very sensitive if I manage to violate a hidden Greek Taboo. It is beyond ridiculous.

Her little daughters must wear a clove of garlic around their necks whenever someone says they are pretty.Garlic is so smelly that it is said to chase the demons of vanity and pride away. Wish that were so simple. I would rather wear the Cross around my neck than gag on garlic.

Indeed, some superdox Greek Orthodox Yiayias swear by all these Greek superstitions. As far as they are concerned, they are part of the canons of the Orthodox Church.

Without the pangyros, superstitions, and car raffles, what else is there?

Concerning susperstitions, I have not dwelt a great deal on these, as for me they are unimportant. I'll keep in mind the explanation for the garlic if I should ever see that occur.

Concerning Seraphim Rose...and homosexuals who enter monasteries, I do not believe that this is right. Perhaps after years of "reparative therapy". But if this is a disorder that is prevalent in someone, I would say they ought to be left alone as a hermit.

I would acknolwedge one as a saint , however I would not say that they should have been in a monastery.

The last thing we need is a bunch of men living together who are homosexuals.

For monasticism, in latin west, greek east...oriental east, this has been an eternal problem.Homosexuality is a curse upon the Church, like all the other major sins. When it occurs and men or women are left alone who have it ..it is I feel too common for temptations to occur and they fall. When that happens it leads to greater evils.

Primarily I feel that it allows clergy to be able to be blackmailed into doing bad things.

So I can not accept homosexuality disorder in monasteries. It may always be there somewhere, but it always needs to be sought ought and stamped out, avoided at all costs. The feelings and evidence I have seen and felt of this being wrong I will go to the grave believing in, without my mind being changed. It is a basic obvious dangerous disorder.

« Last Edit: February 25, 2012, 01:00:49 AM by Christopher McAvoy »

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"and for all who are Orthodox, and who hold the Catholic and Apostolic Faith, remember, O Lord, thy servants" - yet the post-conciliar RC hierarchy is tolerant of everyone and everything... except Catholic Tradition, for modernists are as salt with no taste, to be “thrown out and trampled under foot

Christopher, your beliefs on the matter of homosexuality and monasticism are alien to the Church of Christ. If you are interested in educating yourself, I recommend the unabridged letters of Sts. Barsanuphius and John.

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"If you cannot find Christ in the beggar at the church door, you will not find Him in the chalice.” -The Divine John Chrysostom

“Till we can become divine, we must be content to be human, lest in our hurry for change we sink to something lower.” -Anthony Trollope

Christopher, your beliefs on the matter of homosexuality and monasticism are alien to the Church of Christ. If you are interested in educating yourself, I recommend the unabridged letters of Sts. Barsanuphius and John.

But they are seemingly, the official position of the contemporary Roman Church, although I really doubt they'll really go on this witch hunt unless they want monasteries totally depopulated (something like 90%).

Christopher, your beliefs on the matter of homosexuality and monasticism are alien to the Church of Christ. If you are interested in educating yourself, I recommend the unabridged letters of Sts. Barsanuphius and John.

Christopher, your beliefs on the matter of homosexuality and monasticism are alien to the Church of Christ. If you are interested in educating yourself, I recommend the unabridged letters of Sts. Barsanuphius and John.

Concerning susperstitions, I have not dwelt a great deal on these, as for me they are unimportant. I'll keep in mind the explanation for the garlic if I should ever see that occur.

Concerning Seraphim Rose...and homosexuals who enter monasteries, I do not believe that this is right. Perhaps after years of "reparative therapy". But if this is a disorder that is prevalent in someone, I would say they ought to be left alone as a hermit.

I would acknolwedge one as a saint , however I would not say that they should have been in a monastery.

The last thing we need is a bunch of men living together who are homosexuals.

For monasticism, in latin west, greek east...oriental east, this has been an eternal problem.Homosexuality is a curse upon the Church, like all the other major sins. When it occurs and men or women are left alone who have it ..it is I feel too common for temptations to occur and they fall. When that happens it leads to greater evils.

Primarily I feel that it allows clergy to be able to be blackmailed into doing bad things.

So I can not accept homosexuality disorder in monasteries. It may always be there somewhere, but it always needs to be sought ought and stamped out, avoided at all costs. The feelings and evidence I have seen and felt of this being wrong I will go to the grave believing in, without my mind being changed. It is a basic obvious dangerous disorder.

Being a hermit is not just some sort of alternative to communal living. It certainly is not something that all people who feel the call to flee the world are able to do, and it should not be forced upon anybody.

If men who in the past murdered others could wind up living as cenobitic monastics, so too can men who are same-sex attracted.

« Last Edit: February 25, 2012, 02:31:33 AM by Cavaradossi »

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Be comforted, and have faith, O Israel, for your God is infinitely simple and one, composed of no parts.

Some Priests who are converts also put the McDonald's burger in their Pascha Basket, even if it is a little cold by the time they get to eat it way past midnight.

We should start another thread about what one can find in Pascha baskets.That might be a riot.

AHHHHHHHHHH I loathe that, the highpoint of American culture is a cold cheeseburger and they want american orthodoxy?

Unfortunately, there aren't a lot of American foods that are any good cold, and the Pascha service being as long as it is and ending when it does kind of prevents anything being served warm. That said, a nice hot cheeseburger, preferably from somewhere better than McDonald's, is indeed the highpoint of American (food) culture, and I am in no way ashamed of that. The other high-point of American cultures is, like the Borg, all other cultures are assimilated, so I have no problem putting whatever the local parish tradition is in the basket.

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"Funny," said Lancelot, "how the people who can't pray say that prayers are not answered, however much the people who can pray say they are." TH White

I am a Monarchist, and I do have a lot of icons in my prayer corner (although only a couple of them are authentic). I've had my beard since long before I was Orthodox. I love the Jesus Prayer, but I can hardly claim to practice it thoroughly and consistantly. I love the Divine Liturgy, and yet I miss Church way too often. I've read a lot of books about Orthodoxy, but I have yet to cultivate an Orthodox heart. As soon as I get my robe and start wearing it everywhere I go, then I'll put "Hyperdox Herman" to shame.

Selam

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"There are two great tragedies: one is to live a life ruled by the passions, and the other is to live a passionless life."Selam, +GMK+