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And with far more patience than you deserve, I've invited you, pleaded with you, to back up your assertion.

You see, I can't argue against a non-sequitur, and that's all you've offered.

All I'm asking is that you cite any proof that Christianity is actually responsible for atrocities.

How about for 1 atrocity?

How about "could be theoretically responsible" for 1 atrocity?

Can you finally cite your assertion, please, so that we may finally get to my counter point?

Thanks in advance,PX

Quoting: Professor Xavier

I posted links about Hitler, showing he went to church, he felt that the Jews needed to be punished for killing Jesus, he had called himself a Christian

I posted a link about the Crusades being for the will of God, according to those who carried out the plans.

Cause of the Crusades - "It is the will of God""When Jesus Christ summons you to his defence," exclaimed the eloquent pontiff, "let no base affection detain you in your homes; whoever will abandon his house, or his father, or his mother, or his wife, or his children, or his inheritance, for the sake of my name, shall be recompensed a hundred-fold, and possess life eternal." Here the enthusiasm of the vast assembly burst through every restraint. With one voice they cried, "Dieu le volt! Dieu le volt!" meaning "It is the will of God! It is the will of God!" Thousands immediately affixed the cross to their garments as a pledge of their sacred engagement to go forth to the rescue of the Holy Sepulchre. The fifteenth day of August of the following year (1096) was set for the departure of the expedition - the Crusades had begun.

[link to www.middle-ages.org.uk]

So are you saying these people were indeed delusional religious extremists and they don't "count"... yet the delusional atheist somehow still counted?

LOL

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33138908

And of course OP is not a loon even when she is claiming to channel Jesus himself, even when such thing would be declared heresy by many Christian denominations. But these things doesn't matter when one uses selective criteria that distort facts to suit one's own line of argument, regardless of logic, reason or evidence.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Consider it a miracle that you're still posting here.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Ban me anytime you wish, it'd prove what kind of lunatic fanatic you are better than I ever could.

"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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I posted links about Hitler, showing he went to church, he felt that the Jews needed to be punished for killing Jesus, he had called himself a Christian

I posted a link about the Crusades being for the will of God, according to those who carried out the plans.

Cause of the Crusades - "It is the will of God""When Jesus Christ summons you to his defence," exclaimed the eloquent pontiff, "let no base affection detain you in your homes; whoever will abandon his house, or his father, or his mother, or his wife, or his children, or his inheritance, for the sake of my name, shall be recompensed a hundred-fold, and possess life eternal." Here the enthusiasm of the vast assembly burst through every restraint. With one voice they cried, "Dieu le volt! Dieu le volt!" meaning "It is the will of God! It is the will of God!" Thousands immediately affixed the cross to their garments as a pledge of their sacred engagement to go forth to the rescue of the Holy Sepulchre. The fifteenth day of August of the following year (1096) was set for the departure of the expedition - the Crusades had begun.

[link to www.middle-ages.org.uk]

So are you saying these people were indeed delusional religious extremists and they don't "count"... yet the delusional atheist somehow still counted?

LOL

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33138908

And of course OP is not a loon even when she is claiming to channel Jesus himself, even when such thing would be declared heresy by many Christian denominations. But these things doesn't matter when one uses selective criteria that distort facts to suit one's own line of argument, regardless of logic, reason or evidence.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Consider it a miracle that you're still posting here.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Ban me anytime you wish, it'd prove what kind of lunatic fanatic you are better than I ever could.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

I don't need your permission....and you're just about out the door. The fact that you're still here, 8 pages later, screaming, insulting and being obscene is evidence of God because He's given me the patience to continue to put up with your BS tirade.

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And of course OP is not a loon even when she is claiming to channel Jesus himself, even when such thing would be declared heresy by many Christian denominations. But these things doesn't matter when one uses selective criteria that distort facts to suit one's own line of argument, regardless of logic, reason or evidence.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Consider it a miracle that you're still posting here.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Ban me anytime you wish, it'd prove what kind of lunatic fanatic you are better than I ever could.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

I don't need your permission....and you're just about out the door. The fact that you're still here, 8 pages later, screaming, insulting and being obscene is evidence of God because He's given me the patience to continue to put up with your BS tirade.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Where was he screaming, insulting or being insane?The Xavier guy was the one that has been rude and name calling.

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And of course OP is not a loon even when she is claiming to channel Jesus himself, even when such thing would be declared heresy by many Christian denominations. But these things doesn't matter when one uses selective criteria that distort facts to suit one's own line of argument, regardless of logic, reason or evidence.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Consider it a miracle that you're still posting here.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Ban me anytime you wish, it'd prove what kind of lunatic fanatic you are better than I ever could.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

I don't need your permission....and you're just about out the door. The fact that you're still here, 8 pages later, screaming, insulting and being obscene is evidence of God because He's given me the patience to continue to put up with your BS tirade.

Re: EUKARYOTIC CELLS - A Devastating Blow For the Fairytale of Evolution

We aren't there yet. The actual first question is, "what can be considered sanctioned behavior within Christianity?"

Well, the answer is "any activity which is either mandated, encouraged, permitted, or at least not prohibited in the New Testament".

The New Testament contains the totality of the definition of Christian behavior.

Activities explicitly prohibited in that canon cannot be classified as "Christian".

So again you're implying that only those who strictly adhere to Christian canon can be considered Christian. Who can provide undeniable evidence of such feat? There's two ways to determine who is a Christian, we either accept those groups and individuals who denominate themselves as such or we have to put every group and person who calls themselves as such under a rigorous test to determine if they have not ever and will not ever break any tenet within the New Testament. As the second alternative is absolutely impossible, historical scholars have commonly used the first. Yet you don't seem to wish to accept this simple logic as it doesn't fit your agenda.

Because the canon of atheism does not forbid anything.Because there is no canon.Everything is acceptable and good in the site of atheism.

Atheism is merely a position regarding the concept of god, not a moral code, it doesn't mandates not forbids anything, it's not its function.

Being people who distastefully stray from directives is quite different than being people who follow distasteful directives

Not really when it comes to your own idea of what it's required to denominate oneself an adherent of a religion. Yet the fact that you don't consider a group to be faithfully adhering to the Christian tenets doesn't mean that that group won't call themselves Christians nor that other people won't accept them as such based on their own denomination.

"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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Consider it a miracle that you're still posting here.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Ban me anytime you wish, it'd prove what kind of lunatic fanatic you are better than I ever could.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

I don't need your permission....and you're just about out the door. The fact that you're still here, 8 pages later, screaming, insulting and being obscene is evidence of God because He's given me the patience to continue to put up with your BS tirade.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Where was he screaming, insulting or being insane?The Xavier guy was the one that has been rude and name calling.

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Ban me anytime you wish, it'd prove what kind of lunatic fanatic you are better than I ever could.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

I don't need your permission....and you're just about out the door. The fact that you're still here, 8 pages later, screaming, insulting and being obscene is evidence of God because He's given me the patience to continue to put up with your BS tirade.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Where was he screaming, insulting or being insane?The Xavier guy was the one that has been rude and name calling.

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And of course OP is not a loon even when she is claiming to channel Jesus himself, even when such thing would be declared heresy by many Christian denominations. But these things doesn't matter when one uses selective criteria that distort facts to suit one's own line of argument, regardless of logic, reason or evidence.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Consider it a miracle that you're still posting here.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Ban me anytime you wish, it'd prove what kind of lunatic fanatic you are better than I ever could.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

I don't need your permission....and you're just about out the door. The fact that you're still here, 8 pages later, screaming, insulting and being obscene is evidence of God because He's given me the patience to continue to put up with your BS tirade.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Is calling someone who claims to speak directly with Jesus Christ a lunatic really an insult? If you really have direct communication with Jesus Christ then ask him to allow you to perform a demonstrable miracle to provide evidence for us. Jesus allowed his direct disciples the power to perform miracles through the holy spirit, so why wouldn't he do the same for you if your claims be true?

"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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Consider it a miracle that you're still posting here.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Ban me anytime you wish, it'd prove what kind of lunatic fanatic you are better than I ever could.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

I don't need your permission....and you're just about out the door. The fact that you're still here, 8 pages later, screaming, insulting and being obscene is evidence of God because He's given me the patience to continue to put up with your BS tirade.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Is calling someone who claims to speak directly with Jesus Christ a lunatic really an insult? If you really have direct communication with Jesus Christ then ask him to allow you to perform a demonstrable miracle to provide evidence for us. Jesus allowed his direct disciples the power to perform miracles through the holy spirit, so why wouldn't he do the same for you if your claims be true?

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Yes, it really is an insult, and you know that. Yes, I really have direct communication with Jesus and so does every other believer in this world that has a relationship with Him.

A similar question was asked to Jesus Himself, and here was His answer.

Matthew 12:38-39 "Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you." He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah."

Jesus answers prayers and speaks to His people on a regular basis. If He's not speaking to you, ask yourself why not?

Maybe instead of spending your time trying to accuse others you might want to try building a relationship with Him yourself and finding out exactly what He can do.

Re: EUKARYOTIC CELLS - A Devastating Blow For the Fairytale of Evolution

Just because something isn't yet explained by science, doesn't immediately mean it's intelligent design. Hell not too long ago, before Issac Newton discovered it, people thought it was the hand of god that kept the moon in orbit. But now we know it's this thing called gravity.

You can't have the mindset of: "because i don't understand it, it must be god's doing"

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Ban me anytime you wish, it'd prove what kind of lunatic fanatic you are better than I ever could.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

I don't need your permission....and you're just about out the door. The fact that you're still here, 8 pages later, screaming, insulting and being obscene is evidence of God because He's given me the patience to continue to put up with your BS tirade.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Is calling someone who claims to speak directly with Jesus Christ a lunatic really an insult? If you really have direct communication with Jesus Christ then ask him to allow you to perform a demonstrable miracle to provide evidence for us. Jesus allowed his direct disciples the power to perform miracles through the holy spirit, so why wouldn't he do the same for you if your claims be true?

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Yes, it really is an insult, and you know that. Yes, I really have direct communication with Jesus and so does every other believer in this world that has a relationship with Him.

A similar question was asked to Jesus Himself, and here was His answer.

Matthew 12:38-39 "Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you." He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah."

Jesus answers prayers and speaks to His people on a regular basis. If He's not speaking to you, ask yourself why not?

Maybe instead of spending your time trying to accuse others you might want to try building a relationship with Him yourself and finding out exactly what He can do.

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Ban me anytime you wish, it'd prove what kind of lunatic fanatic you are better than I ever could.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

I don't need your permission....and you're just about out the door. The fact that you're still here, 8 pages later, screaming, insulting and being obscene is evidence of God because He's given me the patience to continue to put up with your BS tirade.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Is calling someone who claims to speak directly with Jesus Christ a lunatic really an insult? If you really have direct communication with Jesus Christ then ask him to allow you to perform a demonstrable miracle to provide evidence for us. Jesus allowed his direct disciples the power to perform miracles through the holy spirit, so why wouldn't he do the same for you if your claims be true?

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Yes, it really is an insult, and you know that. Yes, I really have direct communication with Jesus and so does every other believer in this world that has a relationship with Him.

A similar question was asked to Jesus Himself, and here was His answer.

Matthew 12:38-39 "Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you." He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah."

Jesus answers prayers and speaks to His people on a regular basis. If He's not speaking to you, ask yourself why not?

Maybe instead of spending your time trying to accuse others you might want to try building a relationship with Him yourself and finding out exactly what He can do.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

You have no way to feasibly prove that you're not just as sick as those held in psychiatric wards because they believe they are Napoleon. The fact that there's many nuts out there who think they are Napoleon doesn't make it any more true. The fact that you can provide backing passages from the Bible doesn't change anything as the Bible is merely a book making outrageous claims, just like many other books out there. Merely claiming something does not in itself makes it automatically true. Claiming things that go directly against all logic and reason much less so.

"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

Re: EUKARYOTIC CELLS - A Devastating Blow For the Fairytale of Evolution

No contradiction between the Bible and science. Someone has tried to make us believe it is (for example the catholic church)

God gave us science also to study the nature, because like the Bible, nature (His creation) is also is His word. Actually in the Bible it says that God spoke nature into exitence. So nature also is His Word.

The methods we use, He also gave us, and the facts they give us are therefore not lies.

For example the Bible does not say anything about the age of the Earth. It has only been inferred, but we really don't know if God mentioned genealogies in the Bible so we could calculate the age.

So therefore we can use science to explore the age instead. The age of the Earth is therefore 4.5 Billion years old because science, the study of God's Word, says it. OK.

This damned contradictions that is made between Science and God's Word, has the only perpose to make God a fool. And it is as well so-called Christians (even the Church) as not Christians that has the responsibility for this.

This is the real conspiracy, downgrading the Word of God, and therebye lead as many as possible down to Hell.

To find the truth about how the nature works, we use Hypetheses that must be tested.

Evolution is a theory or a hypothesis, that must be tested. But the probability that it can occur is so infinitesimal that any experiments must fail to prove it. Only the knowledge about the DNA can at once tell us that it could not happen.

Even so they want evolution to be the dominating belief. It is a belief only, a religion.

Creationism is a fact according to the Bible, because God says He created the species all after its own kind and so it was.

And it is much more probable that an animal is created or made than being a result of evolution.

To prove that an animal is made, we have to prove God. And He does not let Himself be any object that shall be proved.

It is not necessary to believe in Creationism to be saved of course. But to believe in God and thus be saved, you have to believe in the Bible.And very many doeasn't believe in the Bible because of this Evolution Creationism contradiction.

Another major issue is the Age of the Earth of 6000 years being overemphesized, almost as a fact by Christians,and thus making many disbelieving the Bible and God.

Re: EUKARYOTIC CELLS - A Devastating Blow For the Fairytale of Evolution

Ban me anytime you wish, it'd prove what kind of lunatic fanatic you are better than I ever could.

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

I'd ban you simply because of your traditional atheist behavior:Rudeness, distracting, loud, unfounded condescension, and a complete lack of evidence to make your point.

But that's just me.

Quoting: Professor Xavier

You actually just described yourself, well done!

"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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I don't need your permission....and you're just about out the door. The fact that you're still here, 8 pages later, screaming, insulting and being obscene is evidence of God because He's given me the patience to continue to put up with your BS tirade.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

Is calling someone who claims to speak directly with Jesus Christ a lunatic really an insult? If you really have direct communication with Jesus Christ then ask him to allow you to perform a demonstrable miracle to provide evidence for us. Jesus allowed his direct disciples the power to perform miracles through the holy spirit, so why wouldn't he do the same for you if your claims be true?

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Yes, it really is an insult, and you know that. Yes, I really have direct communication with Jesus and so does every other believer in this world that has a relationship with Him.

A similar question was asked to Jesus Himself, and here was His answer.

Matthew 12:38-39 "Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you." He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah."

Jesus answers prayers and speaks to His people on a regular basis. If He's not speaking to you, ask yourself why not?

Maybe instead of spending your time trying to accuse others you might want to try building a relationship with Him yourself and finding out exactly what He can do.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

What happened to you that made you become such a believer?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33138908

I've experienced the supernatural realm........so I know it's very real.

Re: EUKARYOTIC CELLS - A Devastating Blow For the Fairytale of Evolution

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Is calling someone who claims to speak directly with Jesus Christ a lunatic really an insult? If you really have direct communication with Jesus Christ then ask him to allow you to perform a demonstrable miracle to provide evidence for us. Jesus allowed his direct disciples the power to perform miracles through the holy spirit, so why wouldn't he do the same for you if your claims be true?

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Yes, it really is an insult, and you know that. Yes, I really have direct communication with Jesus and so does every other believer in this world that has a relationship with Him.

A similar question was asked to Jesus Himself, and here was His answer.

Matthew 12:38-39 "Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you." He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah."

Jesus answers prayers and speaks to His people on a regular basis. If He's not speaking to you, ask yourself why not?

Maybe instead of spending your time trying to accuse others you might want to try building a relationship with Him yourself and finding out exactly what He can do.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

What happened to you that made you become such a believer?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33138908

I've experienced the supernatural realm........so I know it's very real.

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Yes, it really is an insult, and you know that. Yes, I really have direct communication with Jesus and so does every other believer in this world that has a relationship with Him.

A similar question was asked to Jesus Himself, and here was His answer.

Matthew 12:38-39 "Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you." He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah."

Jesus answers prayers and speaks to His people on a regular basis. If He's not speaking to you, ask yourself why not?

Maybe instead of spending your time trying to accuse others you might want to try building a relationship with Him yourself and finding out exactly what He can do.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

What happened to you that made you become such a believer?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33138908

I've experienced the supernatural realm........so I know it's very real.

Re: EUKARYOTIC CELLS - A Devastating Blow For the Fairytale of Evolution

Silly Christians everybody knows Zeus is the one true God and you can't disprove it either I have inspired scriptures to back it up with fulfilled prophecies included .I alo have seen and spoke with Zeus myself .

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Is calling someone who claims to speak directly with Jesus Christ a lunatic really an insult? If you really have direct communication with Jesus Christ then ask him to allow you to perform a demonstrable miracle to provide evidence for us. Jesus allowed his direct disciples the power to perform miracles through the holy spirit, so why wouldn't he do the same for you if your claims be true?

Quoting: Manu-Koelbren

Yes, it really is an insult, and you know that. Yes, I really have direct communication with Jesus and so does every other believer in this world that has a relationship with Him.

A similar question was asked to Jesus Himself, and here was His answer.

Matthew 12:38-39 "Then some of the Pharisees and teachers of the law said to him, "Teacher, we want to see a miraculous sign from you." He answered, "A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah."

Jesus answers prayers and speaks to His people on a regular basis. If He's not speaking to you, ask yourself why not?

Maybe instead of spending your time trying to accuse others you might want to try building a relationship with Him yourself and finding out exactly what He can do.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

What happened to you that made you become such a believer?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33138908

I've experienced the supernatural realm........so I know it's very real.

Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

So let's just consider for hypothesis' sake that someone just came here and said that they also experienced the supernatural realms and that all you're saying is in fact false, how could anyone assess correctly which argument is true? As it's not possible to do such thing, such arguments possess no value in practical discussion.

"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.