Trinity (Part 2)

I agree kerwin. I am not bagging education of course, but just saying that it alone is not enough. The world thinks education is the answer to everything. You must have the right mind to interpret knowledge and truth correctly. Many intelligent academics are deceived and believe in fables. It is said that Luke the writer of Luke and Acts was a doctor. If he was indeed the author, he wrote more of the New Testament than Paul. In this case his education was a good thing as he passed down much scripture.

“In this case his education was a good thing as he passed down much scripture.” and what does his education have to do with it if it was really written by God or the holy Ghost himself? did he need a doctorate to “pass it down”?

kerwin….PAUL counted all that as dung that he might win christ and gain the truth of GOD. He believed his past cridentuals meet nothing, for him to brage about, remember with those cridentials he persecuted the church of GOD, he was indeed a Pharisee of Pharisees completely decieved reguarding the FAITH, and truth of God. But thanks be to GOD he repented and was given the spirit of truth and then was able to put those scriptures he studied in proper perspective.

“unless the LORD shall build the house the weary builders build in vain”.

Paul also stated that five words with understanding is worth a multitude without so he was certainly not against education itself but rather against how it has continuously applied, i.e. misapplied, by many.

kerwin….Yes i do believe Paul was well educated for his day. But Without the Spirit of truth, education with regards to the FAITH means nothing. Most of the true apostles were not well educated, but they spoke sound truths that even the most educated could not understand, this is even true today. Like Paul said though i have “all” knowledge and have not love, it prophets me nothing. I am not against education, but it can become a stumbling block.

Pro 3:5-7…Trust in the LORD with “all” your heart, and lean not unto your “own understanding”. 6, in all your ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct your paths, 7, Be not wise in thine “own eyes: fear the LORD, an depart from evil, We are told.

I am not actually not sure how many of the Apostles were educated in that day but it may well have been more that you thing for literacy was prized among the Jews men, and possibly women, of that tome for by it one could read the writings, if only in the synagogue.

John, a fisherman, may have read Philo’s works as the two voice similar ideas about the logos.

kerwin….IN THAT TIME THERE WERE NO GENERAL ESTABLISHED EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM FOR THE AVARAGE PERSON. General the only one who could read and write were the wealth, not the commoners of that day. The apostles insites and ubderstaning was given them by Jesus and the spirit of God. Just as it say , “brethern you have no need that anyone teach you for the spirit “itself’ will teach you all things. ” education is good but it does not guarantee a person will understand the truth of God in fact it can be a stumbling block , as witnessed here with hoghead1. IMO

You can go on an anti-intellectual rant all you want about the “wisdom of the world.” All you have presented is a bogus argument. that backfires on you. You, too, are part of the wisdom of the world and so have done nothing but state you own homespun opinions of the Trinity. I can’t think of a faster way to be pulled off track from Scripture than listening to the opinions of a bunch of self-appointed bar-stool apostles who think they are so much more motivated and guided by the Spirit than anyone else and so really have no need to study or respect any form of scholarship, especially that represented by the church fathers and other great thinkers, and believe themselves to be especially empowered by God to cast aspersion on the Christian religion by attacking central teachings such as the Trinity.

dl….RIGHT, you sound indoctrinated by the bogus trenitarian teachings from false christanity OF THIS WORLD, you as they and hoghead are indeed wasting your time here, what does the truth have in common with false teachers anyway. Because you as they, have not loved the truth, therefore God has sent a deluding spirit unto you all, in order for you to believe a “LIE”, and that “LIE” is that JESUS IS A GOD, AS YOU TRINITARIAN PREACH.

2Ths2. go read it for yourself read the post here on 2THS 2 EXPLAIND, AND SEE WHERE YOU ARE, OF THE TRUTH OR A “LIE”. IS it not JESUS WHO YOU FALSE TEACHERS NOW SIT IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD AND BEING DESPLAYED AS A GOD, DOES THAT NOT BREAK THE FIRST COMMANDMENT “you shall have no other God besides me”, EVER SENSE The COUNCLE of NICAEA IN 325 AD, by THE PAGAN RULER CONSTANTINE, who himself bought into the “LIE” of ATHANASIUS AND DECLARED JESUS WAS A GOD, TURNING the “IMAGE” of JESUS into A “Man of sin”, why sin? because it breaks the first commandment, “you shall have “NO” other God beside me.”

YOU talk big but, as hoghead1 but have produce nothing sound just like him, why not just consider some of the thing we are saying and check it out for yourself, who knows you may come to see where you have been decieved by fallen christanity also.

The Bible nowhere teaches the Trinity Doctrine. You might be able to stretch a verse here and there, but that is not being honest about what scripture is teaching. But overwhelmingly, scripture teaches that the Father is God and Jesus is his son.