One, this is close to posting a source that mods might not like depending on their view of the substance. Two, anyone who screws around with myostatin at this stage can quite literally be taking their lives into their hands. As I understand it primates can suffer severe heart problems when there are deficient levels of myostatin in their bodies. Some people born with the genetic defect do okay, some are ****ed.

This is NOT a substance anyone should be messing around with right now. Eventually manipulation of myostatin and other similar inhibitory factors will be developed into fairly safe drug protocols, and you can be sure they will make their way to the black market. Until then, it should be avoided.

It's borderline source posting but as this compound isn't even on the govt radar yet, I suppose it is ok as long as no one links to the sites.

I agree CBD...waaay too early to know what this stuff does. Gotta remember, the heart is a muscle too and many of these peptides are not going to discriminate between smooth and skeletal muscle. You could grow an enormous sphincter muscle..or worse.

12-28-2005, 11:49 PM

weihunglow

Thanks for the responses bros, yes i would stay away
from this since theres been no real case studies on humans
i would guess this stuff could be very carcingenic and might
increase risk for cancer, also just too damn expensive.

Thanks for the responses bros, yes i would stay away
from this since theres been no real case studies on humans
i would guess this stuff could be very carcingenic and might
increase risk for cancer, also just too damn expensive.

Ah but there is a perpetual study going on, in a way. A german boy was born with extremely low levels of myostatin (or none at all?). Google it.

I think he's 5 now, twice the mass of an average 5 year old, half the body fat.

I think it was Sikdog that said it was found/theorized that smooth muscle has a different anti myostatin gene

CROWLER

Could be. From my reading on this, which has not been too in depth but enough to make an educated guess, the heart problems don't manifest in some species but do in others. Just seems like a risk not worth taking until a lot more data is available specific to humans.

What's more Dan from the HR boards sent me an interesting study on this suggesting pretty strongly that myostatin isn't the only factor involved in this process.

What you mean "sane person"? Do I give impressions of not being as you may consider "sane"? Do you know my wife?

like a head on the shelf of a deadman's office...

Well i mean when one gets so big, can we really consider them a "person" anymore? Its like the hulk, he goes from a person to a....thing..Kinda like you Big Pete. Not that im implying anything or nothing like that, you still have feelings, are humorous, and are a nice mod and all that good stuff, so I...MYSELF..consider you a person, but im not so sure about other people!!! jk bro jk.

Well i mean when one gets so big, can we really consider them a "person" anymore? Its like the hulk, he goes from a person to a....thing..Kinda like you Big Pete. Not that im implying anything or nothing like that, you still have feelings, are humorous, and are a nice mod and all that good stuff, so I...MYSELF..consider you a person, but im not so sure about other people!!! jk bro jk.

Hello Everyone I Normally Wouldnt Post My Results But I Have Done A 10 Week Cycle At 500 Micrograms A Week Of The Anti-gdf-8 Pm Me And Ill Tell You What I Believe It To Do.

Are you sure it was actually anti-gdf-8? Because the only one I've heard about is myo-029 and it's in phase I/II clinical trials and Wyeth didn't release the chemical name. A bunch of companies have been selling some algae crap that they say blocks myostatin.

all the inhibiters I have seen have had an 8 in the name (which I guess means nothing) - From what I remember (and god knows I can be confusing growth facotor inhibiters) but the first thing is you would have to guess what to reconstitute with (shouldnt be hard),. .and it IS expensive,.. but only because of the fact that the reconstitution only last for a few days (maybe 7). But if you've done that many times before things shouldnt be a problem.
Its an interesting topic though.
On the other side (and this was just an option I have been exploring - I keep busy- it finding the "active" ingreadient in those available mystatin blockers (in raw form though- maybe make a inj. solution.)

"Injecting ACVR2B to boost muscle size is preferable because the changes in muscle mass will be temporary and can be regulated by altering dosage. The older method of altering the genes would make the changes permanent and have potentially catastrophic consequences."

The article also talks about the child with the mutation in the gene that produces myostatin, causing him to have lower levels of the muscle-suppressing chemical than normal. The child has the "frog-legs" which are typical in champion bodybuilders or powerlifters. His muscles appear to be twice the size of other kids his age.

all the inhibiters I have seen have had an 8 in the name (which I guess means nothing) - From what I remember (and god knows I can be confusing growth facotor inhibiters) but the first thing is you would have to guess what to reconstitute with (shouldnt be hard),. .and it IS expensive,.. but only because of the fact that the reconstitution only last for a few days (maybe 7). But if you've done that many times before things shouldnt be a problem.
Its an interesting topic though.
On the other side (and this was just an option I have been exploring - I keep busy- it finding the "active" ingreadient in those available mystatin blockers (in raw form though- maybe make a inj. solution.)

The reason alot of myostatin drugs use the number 8 in the name is because mystatin is also known as "Growth Differentiation Factor 8" or GDF-8 for short.... thats all. BTW, if you come up with a working inj. solution, be sure to let me know your formula!

Right- Iknow its GF-8, hince many research chems will have it in a MyoD catagory, or subcatagory. But, its not always written in plain english, or can be guessed.
Thought It would be bennificial for others (if there looking into this).
When I said the 8 might mean nothing, its because sometimes it is not listed, or they call it what they want. It can be like picking a particular supp ending in "bol", in a list of "bols" supps.

Also, most of the GF's are also broken into subcatagories as well. It really depends on the company suppling it for research.