Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

Like pablokal said, not until June unless Will and sHyLoCk put out a new release before then.

The problem is with all the changes to Arch in the last little while, changes also have to be made to the ArchBang installer to compensate for the changes. I have found this difficult personally as I had planned to use the AB installer for my own personal project and have had to find a different installer due to difficulties with installation of the .iso. Making an archiso loaded with programs is easy. Making a LiveCD that works properly for testing and installing is a different story.

Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

once wrote:

Dgameman1 wrote:

Is there a new .iso available with pacman already updated and such?Please and thank you

+1

+1

Would make life easier for newcomers and might help some here to stick to AB. If AB is really going through a lot more than usually, and such an iso would save people the trouble, waiting till June is just plain wrong. IMHO.

Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

make release everytime when it is needed, or every 2 - 3 months.... and I think pacman 4, kmod, filesystem.. are a really good reason to make new snapshot of iso instanter..... because users of archbang it awaiting..users of archlinux not so much....

Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

xhc wrote:

make release everytime when it is needed, or every 2 - 3 months.... and I think pacman 4, kmod, filesystem.. are a really good reason to make new snapshot of iso instanter..... because users of archbang it awaiting..users of archlinux not so much....

I totally agree this. Today is installed archbang to my friends pc and i had to tweak pacman4, cairo, kmod...so much work. Also installing updates took longer than installing whole system. :> We really need a new snapshot.

Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

In total agreement with all of you. I keep a special folder with all of the most updated packages specifically for doing installs that I dump into /var/cache/pacman/pkg when doing a fresh install so I don't have to waste a lot of time downloading during the first upgrade. And like others have already mentioned then there's pacman4 , pacman.conf.pacnew and downloading keys, removing locale.sh, forcing filesystem, changing to kmod, and cairo. Updating a fresh install now requires a lot of time.

Before, Arch was slow to change and releases every 6 months required only 1 or 2 changes and updating the system. Now, there seems to changes every two weeks to the Arch system and more updated releases (maybe three months apart) are needed. The release doesn't need to be a whole new release (new wallpaper, package changes, and so on), it can just be an updated release. I think if ArchBang kept the 2 major releases/year scheme for June /December in place with updates in March and September, it would be sufficient. ATM, it's time consuming and a pain to do a fresh installation.

Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

Updating a fresh install now requires a lot of time...I think if ArchBang kept the 2 major releases/year scheme for June /December in place with updates in March and September, it would be sufficient. ATM, it's time consuming and a pain to do a fresh installation.

Well, we all seem to agree... public demand is clear.. now it is in the hands of the devs to act.

Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

It's not so much the source package packages as the abinstaller.sh that needs fine tuning for the changes I think. I'm not a script guy. I think sHyLoCk would have to be the one to do it as Will is busy at school and sHy is the specialist.

Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

I'm a little late here, but I'd like to chime in since I've messed with the AB source. The AB source files contain a modified build.sh file, it doesn't have an option for netinstall. The only tweak required for pacman4 is the updated pacman.conf with package signing disabled, feel free to use the one from Bridge, it's configured for pacman4. Pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/LE8dNhAJ

Bridge's installer is a bit different, I commented out a few Openbox specific files from the copy process, just run it through Meld and see. BTW, I'm currently writing a GUI install program (I know, I know. The text installer is like a rite of passage...) in Python and using blocks of bash code from the abinstaller, so I'm not sure how much longer I'll be using the abinstaller.

Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

Thanks ninja-1 but I've got a working Fluxar LiveCD now and I'm not going to release it. It seems like Arch is now becoming the new Ubuntu, as far as distros being made from it. There are so many new Arch based distros now, with at least four more in the works that I know of and who knows how many else will be created in 2012.

While at first, ArchBang, CTKArch, Bridge and others seemed like a good idea to me for an experienced Arch user to get a quick Arch install, I'm not so sure it's a good idea anymore. Too many noobs are trying to use these distros as a lazy man's install or way to Arch and I personally don't like this. Perhaps I'm becoming an Arch purist or I'm just tired of people asking the same simple questions over and over which they would have known if they had done an Arch install or read the Beginner's Guide or even bothered to search the Wiki.

Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

Thanks. I've seen it, but the thing didn't want to run when I ported it. Errors with Ruby's wxgui plugin they use.

For the record, I find Manjaro Linux's installer much nicer. At my level of programming knowledge it will be something just to get my installer finished and working properly, lol. Cool thing is, I'm learning more coding in the process, which I've wanted to do for a while, but the book bored me. I'm learning Python the same way that I learned Linux now: through trial, error, and much Googling, haha.

Re: New ARCHBANG .iso?

ArchVortex wrote:

Thanks ninja-1 but I've got a working Fluxar LiveCD now and I'm not going to release it. It seems like Arch is now becoming the new Ubuntu, as far as distros being made from it. There are so many new Arch based distros now, with at least four more in the works that I know of and who knows how many else will be created in 2012.

Stan, I understand you not wanting to release the Fluxar LiveCD, but I would hate to see that info go to waste. There is a Fluxbox section in the Arch wiki, maybe you could expand that? Also, you could post your own Fluxar "in 21 easy steps" on your website. Or even write it up more formally and maybe it will get published (online or otherwise). I think you could share your creation and still make them go through the learning process.