On 1/12/06, Bluebird wrote: > There are risks for children and there are risks for our birds. > Many a child has walked out of a door and down the street. I did > when I was two. Luckly, my mother got to me before I reached a busy > street. How many clipped birds have been stepped on because they > were on the floor? I know of a few. Most of the birds that I know > of that have flown away were clipped but got suprised and took off > much to their owner's suprise. I think it is time to for bird > owning folks to catch up with responsible dog owners and start to > do some serious training of their birds. They should be able to > stay and come on command just like any dog does. It can be done > take a look at the Good Bird Inc Magazine. I have two macaws, and > unbrella, SI Eclectus and a cockateil that all fly. My umbrella can > cut corners and fly from the very back of my house to the very > front. I feel it is worth the risk to let them fly as nature > intended. On 1/12/06, Alison wrote: >> On 1/11/06, Scott wrote: >>> -Alison->>> Alison,>>> I have been reading your response and I am schocked that you >>> feel homes are such a risk. Where do you live that your home >>> is a risk for your birds to fly around? Do you have knifes >>> hanging or something? Any home that is "kid" proof for the >>> most part is also bird proof. Yes they can get into trouble >>> but come on, so can a 3 year old. Flighted birds are much >>> happier than any clipped bird I know. My macaw has been >>> flighted his whole life and does fine flying around my home. >>> He never hit a wall or door so hard that he hurt himself, >>> maybe your birds were trying to get away from you and your >>> crazyness. All pets need to be watched when doors are opened, >>> if your bird is trained properly an open door will not be an >>> open invitation to "escape". -Scott->> __________________________________________________>> Are you serious? I know of no children who have been cut in half >> or decapitated by a ceiling fan. I don't know of any who have >> landed in a boiling pot of spagetti. I also don't know of any >> who have run out an open door and been slaughtered by a hawk. >> Where do I live, I think the question is, where do you live that >> this sort of thing happens. A child proof home is not just as >> safe for a bird. A flighted bird can easily fly OVER the gate >> that keep the child out of the kitchen and bathroom and away from >> a hot stove or oven or open toilet. And I never heard of a child >> being crushed between the top of the door and the door frame >> because someone didn't see it perched there when they shut the >> door. Your argument aren't worth the time it took you to type >> them or me to respond to them, but unfortunately if they are left >> unanswered, some other unknowledgable person may actually think >> that what you said it somehow true. I can't bear the thought of >> another bird dying because of people like you. And for your >> info, I have saved more birds in my life than you will likely >> ever lay eyes on, so get off your ignorant high horse. -Alison-