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Thursday, November 16, 2017

What do you do if you are one of the richest, most powerful men Hollywood has ever seen? Well, if someone does something you don't like and the entire world is discussing it and you, then you take matters into your own hands. Almost two decades ago, that is exactly what happened. The person who did the something the whole world was discussing was found dead. No reason was ever given. None. Every single person interviewed said the deceased person had been in perfect health and took no drugs. Every single person interviewed was shocked that the person died. This was not a nobody who died. Our powerful man in Hollywood had him killed. Six months after the death, the two police detectives who had been handling the case got themselves contracts paying them $500K a year for 5 years working for a shell company owned by the powerful man. Probably just a coincidence. Before they left the force, they made sure the case was closed and that they took anything that could possibly lead back to the powerful man.

Agree - probably Kubrik. Remember he was named as being involved in one of the US lunar landing conspiracies. However, I dug a little more and learned that Buddy the Wonder Dog from Air Bud died the same year as well. No mention of him ever doing drugs ANYWHERE on the web. Hmmmmmm

I remember this story. This guy outed David Geffen as a greedy and ruthless manipulator who exploits and strongarms people, and Geffen had him poisoned. We've seen Geffen referred to in blinds as the executive that nobody messes with. Even presidents bow down to him and kiss his ass. He's been raping and murdering people a long time.

His fall from grace will be epic! I wonder though, who will be brave enough to take him down?

Eyes Wide Shut was all about a secret society sex club. The ending of the film was edited after his death. When you watch the film, the covered sex actions appear to be between adults. I bet that is not what was originally in the film. I bet the film originally implicated a pedophile club and that is what was edited out/covered up. It has to be Kubric. When I saw the film when it came out, there seemed to be no reason for editing out sex with adults. That would change the impact of the film immensely, and give more reason as to why the elite characters were in a secret society after all. The soundtrack during those scenes also gives you a sense that there’s something more serious going on. What if Lelee Sobieski’s character popped back up in those final scenes? I’m totally guessing, but that film had to be the reason for what happened to Kubric and what we saw if the film was not the film he made.

Interesting, What if Sonny Bono was in on exposing Geffen? He was in Congress at the time of his death, and he said many times how much he hated him.(Cher dated Geffen,for you younguns). I remember a lot of talk about him being murdered be cause of an investigation he was in on.

Kubrick seems tempting as an alternative---especially because of his connection to Stephen Spielberg, another ruthless industry bloodsucker. But Kubrick doesn't fit the blind. He didn't really do anything that personally targeted a huge Hollywood mogul that everyone was talking about.

I saw Eyes Wide Shut. I personally think that it was his worst movie. Nothing at all remarkable about it. He did do a private screening of an uncut version of the movie with Warner Bros executives and Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. And even though the final cut was done after his death I doubt very much that either Tom Cruise or Nicole Kidman would have ever agreed to star in a movie about adults raping children. Both were (and still are) way too concerned about their squeaky clean image.

Enty takes some of his clues directly from the public record of these types of incidents. Kubric died in his sleep. A cause of death was given (a massive heart attack). The blind says that the victim was found dead and that no reason was ever given---which is exactly what happened in King's case. Also, the blind says that people who were interviewed said that the deceased person had been in perfect health. That is an almost verbatim take from the articles that were written about King's death.

i agree that geffen would be more angry about the book than the movie, but wasn't the world more obsessed with eyes wide shut than the book? i'm thinking of the regular world...i'm sure in hollywod circles the book was a bigger deal. i'd believe it was either one.

I also think Stanley Kubrick fits, died in 1999, almost two decades. There is this theory, that his heart attack was induced by immersing him in cold water.I always wondered if he went too far with Eyes Wide Shut, and someone would want to kill him for that. I'd die to know EVERYTHING about this! I had no idea, that there is another version of the movie, I gotta go read more about that, that's intriguing as hell!

Its not Kubrick. he was 70, died of a massive heart attack EWS named nore threatened nobody. Tales of elites having gross occult sex orgies have been around for 100s of years. Nobody was named or even alluded to.

Tom King, on the other hand. Well, read the article: http://articles.latimes.com/2003/apr/15/local/me-king15

Money quotes:

"Entertainment journalist Tom King, who wrote the Wall Street Journal's influential "Hollywood Journal" column and a best-selling biography of mogul David Geffen, died Sunday. He was 39."

"King's death stunned the Hollywood community and his colleagues. Jonathan Friedland, the Journal's Los Angeles bureau chief, said it was "a terrible shock -- Tom was a great guy, seemingly in great health.""

Cold case payouts---the case is cold because it was never solved. It was never solved because the police never investigated it. Read the blind. It says that the two detectives who were working the case were paid vast sums of money to destroy any evidence and make sure that the mogul would never be found out.

The blind doesn’t mention which law enforcement agency these two “detectives” worked for so it could in effect be any police force domestic or foreign. However the excellent health and no drug comments have me thinking about shocking reputed/purported drug overdose deaths of notables from say the range of ‘97-2005. Why mention drugs in the blind if that wasn’t the rumored/speculated cause of death?

If it was Tom King (the Geffen bio he wrote came out in 2000), he died in the Hamptons...is the official autopsy report available (though no doubt coroners are just as easily bought off bribed and paid for as any other human). Was there even a police investigation opened into his death and if so, who were the detectives? Did they retire shortly thereafter and what did they subsequently do?

That LA Times obit is filled with interesting details...particularly the note about David Geffen’s brother, Mitchell. What family/brotherly secrets does Mitchell have I wonder:

“King was in the Hamptons in New York visiting Broadway producer Jeffrey Seller ("Rent"), a friend of King since they attended a summer theater program for high school students in 1981.

Seller said that King had been in good spirits but had complained of a headache, although it seemed nothing out of the ordinary. Seller said he discovered King shortly before 8 a.m. Sunday collapsed on a bathroom floor. King was taken to Southampton Hospital, where he was pronounced dead. Initial reports said the death was due to natural causes, but an autopsy will be conducted to determine the exact cause.”

“Published in 2000, King's "The Operator: David Geffen Builds, Buys and Sells the New Hollywood" was the product of nearly 300 interviews, lauded as a highly readable portrayal of one of Hollywood's most powerful and feared executives. A Times story called it "an unflinching portrait," and the San Francisco Chronicle called it a "detailed portrait of Hollywood's premier manipulator."

King was especially praised for forging ahead with the book amid a heated falling out with Geffen midway through his reporting. As King recounted in the forward of his book, Geffen initially gave him extraordinary access to his life, even authorizing his psychiatrist to be interviewed.

But their relationship turned chilly when King mentioned he would be interviewing Geffen's brother, Mitchell, with whom the mogul wasn't speaking.”

I don't think it was King. He was a gossip writer, essentially a nobody. Yeah the book is embarassing, but it wouldnt have been the first time G. Was embarassed by Hollywood Gossip.Sonny Bono fits. Definitely not a nobody, and a thorn in the side of Geffen and his pals the Clintons. He was investigating political corruption, military corruption, and drug and arms sales, and his copyright law carved out exceptions that would cost Geffen money. He also died in the snow. He was an expert skier, going off piste of an intermediate trail in good conditions. Reportedly he wasn't going fast and didn't break any ribs or limbs and reportedly only had damage to his head and face, but there was no reported cause of death and the autopsy was suppressed.

@Alexandria Anna - if you want to know more about the film, I came across a YouTube guy called Jay - sorry I can't remember his surname - but look for 'The Illuminati in Hollywood.' Jay does lots of philosophical treatises, but his most popular subject is about the films of Hollywood - he dissects them.Eyes Wide Shut has loads of Illuminati symbols and symbolism.

David Geffen’s brother, Mitchell, is an attorney...presumably the one listed as living in Encino (findlaw has the address and phone number).

Although another site shows Palm Desert.

Btw, the anonymous antagonist of Carly Simon’s “You’re So Vain” was mostly about David “shitheel lying cheating sack of dogshit” Geffen. That should be the REAL full name of the UCLA School of Medicine he’s so obsessed with ensuring is on every single piece of stationary letterhead and document.

I got so excited that this blind item could be about Stanley Kubrick, daaaamn I want this answered so bad! And if it's not, I wonder who is the person and what the person in question did, that whole world was discussing it..

Back in the 60s when I was working in London, a girl friend of mine asked me to meet her at her office one night after work. She had an 'audition reel' she wanted me to see. Since I was also working in the film industry I jumped at the chance. She made me promise on my cat I would never, ever discuss what I was about to see. Now, almost 50 years later, I am. It was a Kubrick audition tape with big, buxom gals nude writhing on the floor to music! You could hear the man behind the camera giving them directions. This audition was for a walk-on! No dialog. My friend said, 'There's a nice section, too.' There, in her long-haired glory was a young, beautiful girl in her early 20's that became a major A+ (at one time) actress. She didn't have to disrobe. Just do some dance moves. After it was all over she said, "These are the only two I can show you. I'd never work in this town again (sound familiar?) if I showed you the rough stuff with the guys!" See, nothing changes.

King was not a gossip writer. He wrote for the Wall Street Journal. He moved to LA to cover Hollywood industry stuff. The WSJ does not publish tabloid/gossip material. And, he was certainly not a nobody. He had a reputation of being a hard-nosed journalist. The things that King wrote in his book was not just gossip meant to embarrass Geffen, they were facts about how the Hollywood system really works. King's writings in this instance was not a piece for the Journal. It was actually a biography about Geffen's life. Initially, Geffen was agreeable to the interviews but then he found out that King had been talking to certain other industry people who gave extremely unflattering interviews about how Geffen used and abused and screwed people over to build his empire, and Geffen did not want that stuff in the book. He and King had a big falling out over it, and he declined to give King any more interviews. King published the book anyway and it was a huge blow to the image that Geffen had carefully built up for himself. The publisher had taken out billboard ads for the book on some of Hollywood's hottest spots before the book was released, and everyone in town was talking about it.

Geffen was pissed off at Greg Allman, not Sonny. Sonny had long moved on from Cher and from the entertainment industry when he died. True, he was involved in investigating political corruption at the time of his death, and he probably was murdered by people in politics who he pissed off, but there was nothing going on around that time that the 'whole world' was talking about involving Sonny and a Hollywood mogul.

The blind says no reason was ever given for the deceased's death. They DID give a reason for Sonny's death.

Maybe we should all go and buy King’s book to try to help push this story up and out. And with Geffen, I don’t know s whole lot about him (bar what I’ve read on here - but the one thing that I always associate him with is Kurt Cobain thanking him during the MTV Unplugged performance. And, of course, now that makes my brain scream “CONSPIRACY... MURDER... COVER-UP...”

@John Doe,the mystery death in the blind is likely King,since his death was very strange. But Geffen did still have a beef with Sonny, not because of Cher,but because of past dealings in the music industry and his,work on copyright laws,which actually bears his name. Sonny's death was supposedly from a doing accident,but the injuries were unusual and later they linked it to him being a prescription drug addict,for no other purpose than to discredit him.

people think: was THE ENTIRE WORLD dicussing the david geffen bio? did you? ever? was THE ENTIRE WORLD discussing "eyes wide shut"? were you? i sure was. tom cruise and nicole kidman. the biggest superstar couple of the decade naked and having sex in a movie about an international sex and murder cult? mr. scientology himself?

the actual movie disappointed. not as much action as hoped and the sex cult revealed nothing really. i'd guess, knowing that the movie filmed for years and kubrick famously shot tons of reels of film that it was edited down to a safe version.

given the tenor of recent blinds about hollywood and sex, and geffen, which makes more sense. geffen HATED the bio. but it effectively called him an asshole, not a sex criminal. i did a search of the bio for the terms "sex ring", "pedophile" and "pedophilia" and got zero hits.

@John Doe And Tom King died of Natural Causes. It could go either way, but why wait three years to kill King? Bono on the other hand was an increasingly popular representative who opposed gay marriage and "eroded gay rights" at the time he was killed.

That said, the last line of this article from 2000 is pretty chilling if it was King.

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/features/2329/

"Who cares what David Geffen thinks of him? He's a reporter at the Wall Street Journal. What's the worst thing that could happen to Tom? He won't get a contract at DreamWorks?"

Anyone who believes he was murdered needs to understand what the man was going through in his personal life.

His daughter Vivian – a Scientologist – had completely disconnected from the family. Vivian was the one who was most like her father: was interested in film, composed the music for Full Metal Jacket, and directed a behind the scenes documentary on The Shining. When she disconnected from her family, it broke her father's heart, and no amount of letter writing from him could get her to come back. The stresses of making Eyes Wide Shut, his age, and the breakdown in communication with his daughter eventually killed him. There was no conspiracy involved.

The truth behind the creation of the Dionysian orgy scenes in Eyes Wide Shut is much more amusing and absurd than any conspiracy theories, and says more about Kubrick than any ruling elite.

Kubrick was moderninsing the masked ball scenes from the early 20th Century Austrian novel, Traunovelle, for which he requested the writer Frederic Raphael make up a fictitious backstory for:

@meanie beanie, good catch on Nicoles commenets. So it seems it wasn't the pretty tepid 'Eyes wide Shut' that got him killed but the movie he was about to make regarding pedophiles running the world. Makes a lot more sense.

Minya and aanjheni - I found it weird that not only Bono but a Kennedy dying the SAME WAY, within a VERY SHORT time period.

TWO expert skiiers died skiing that year by running into trees. And zero since? Yeah right!!

Frank Gifford’s daughter from his first marriage was married to Matthew LeMoyne sp? Kennedy, and he had just been busted w/the 15 year old babysitter or nanny. New Years trip skiing w/the other Kennedys and he died by running into a tree as he played FOOTBALL going down the slopes. Football, something his father-in-law was great at, which humored me...but the Clintons were in the White House and had more “gates” than any other sitting president in recent history, Whitewatergate was just the most infamous at the time.

I always wondered about these two...

Perhaps Mary Bono was paid for her silence, by “winning” her husband’s seat?!

That article quoting alleged comments made by Nicole Kidman - and all the other sites that have copy/pasted it - doesn't even cite a source for where the comments originated from or who conducted the interview, and if you search for it, you won't find any source for the original public interview that supposedly took place during the promotional tour for Big Little Lies 2. Why? Because they were clearly made up by a site that is known for inventing unsourced nonsense.

If it was real, and only recently happened, it wouldn't be hard to find the original interview and the quotes wouldn't sound so out of place coming from Nicole Kidman. Besides, Kubrick's circumstances don't even fit this blind item, it clearly relates to Geffen.

Lets refocus. The blind is not about the Illuminati or the Co$. It is about a feud between one of the most powerful Hollywood moguls and someone who pissed him off 20 years ago. All of these other people who are being proposed as possibilities had a reason for their cause of death given---except King. Whether the reason given was false or not, the blind says that "...no reason was ever given. None...." That is an important part of the clue. I don't understand why people keep saying Sonny Bono and Stanley Kubrick when causes of death were given for both of them.

The blind's reference to what happened almost two decades ago isn't about the actual death of the deceased. It is about the time when the mogul decided to 'take matters into his own hands'. King began collaborating with Geffen to write the biography in 1996. The fallout between them happened in 1997---exactly two decades ago is when Geffen began to push back against publication of the book. The following article gives more context to their relationship. (It is long but worth the read)

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/media/features/2329/

King said things in that book about Geffen and his family and his business relationships that Geffen had not anticipated and really did not like. He was constantly calling King to get him to not publish the book. Geffen NEVER calls anybody to beg for anything.

The article notes that Geffen called his friends at the Wall Street Journal to try to discredit King. Then he called his friends at all the networks and told them not to give any coverage to King's book.

People in New York and LA were incessantly talking about this book. Its release was widely anticipated. King went on a tour to promote the book. He was identified as Geffen's #1 enemy. The last part of the article is the interesting part. Geffen vowed that King would come to regret his 'betrayal' and that he would never write another book in Hollywood. I've read parts of this book. Its not just about all the men (and women) who Geffen literally screwed (and there were a LOT of them. It also talks a lot about his shady business deals and casts numerous aspersions on Geffen's character. Geffen became physically ill after reading a pre-release copy of the book, and was so affected by it that he was seeing a psychiatrist. To a vain celebrity like Geffen, I can easily see how that would set him off.

Why would anyone want to cross this guy? He has put his penis inside pretty much every male and female 'star' in the entertainment industry over the years---including the likes of John Lennon and Michael Jackson and Cher. He has amassed an empire worth over $8 billion dollars. He donates large amounts of money to charitable causes and political campaigns and has friends everywhere. He also has an appetite for young flesh, but I digress. When you're this rich and powerful you get away with everything! In his mind he is a god...perhaps of the ilk of George Soros. I call these people 'The untouchables.' If you fuck with them and they really don't like it you're going to end up ruined or dead. And they have the resources to make sure that the truth never comes out.

The "entire world" in this context cannot be literal. Most people do not know who the Hollywood moguls themselves are, even though they are ardent fans of the stars who the moguls produce. I seriously doubt that most of the 5.8 billion people who were living on this planet in 1997 knew who David Geffen was, or that most of the 6 billion who were living on the planet in 1999 were talking about Eyes Wide Shut.

However, the blind makes perfect sense if the 'entire world' is taken to mean the entire world of Hollywood. People talked about Sonny Bono after his death, agreed. But it was brief and quickly forgotten. At the time of his death Sonny was an obscure politician who many people talked about only because Cher (who was on the top of the world at the time with her hit 'Believe' tour) got involved with his funeral. Sonny was a nice guy and a good politician. But, the truth is that no one in Hollywood cared about Sonny anymore---except for the Co$ losers who were trying to preventing him from leaving their so-called church.

Kubrick was married and lived with his wife in England. Unless the lizard people kidnapped him from his house and immersed him in sub-zero fluids for a significant period of time to trigger cardiogenic shock and myocardial infarction I don't see how he fits either.

Probably worth noting that the police department (Suffolk County PD) that covers the Hamptons and would have been investigating Tom King's death is widely considered to be one of the most corrupt police departments in the country, to the extent that a former police chief is currently serving a 46 month prison sentence and the long-time district attorney and his aide, the leader of the unit that investigates corruption within the department, have both recently been indicted on federal charges relating to conspiracy and corruption.

good points, john doe, i'm slowly being converted. it did occur to me that "entire world" could mean everyone in geffen's world rather than the rest of us. and he wasn't discussed as being a part of "eyes wide shut" at the time. also whatever sonny bono was pushing for in congress wasn't being discussed as connected to geffen by the "entire world" at the time. i usually resort to occam's razor and didn't on this one.

joe soap: very true that one can't rely on reddit posts as authority. i posted that as a reference only. i'd mentioned i'd recently come across the kubrick murder theory and was posting the source. heaven forbid anyone think i take reddit as gospel. if we did we'd also have to believe that nicole kidman participated in the baby-eating rituals some redditers say her father ran, lol.

Read Tom King’s book, party girl Emma. As for the Suffolk County P.D. - were there 2 detectives that retired/semi retired within a year of the death in ‘03? And/or joined some companies as “consultants” or execs of some sort?

Sonny Bono was sking with his wife and kids, so are the ones thinking it is him, thinking that there was someone nefarious waiting around the ski slopes for something to happen to one of the kids, so the wife would stop and Sonny would ski ahead? He took a well traveled, but intermediate ski run, at a resort he had gone to for over 20 years, I just find it hard to imagine there were ppl just hanging around hoping he would choose that path when he was out sking with his family. just a week or so prior there had been another ski fatality at a different resort, of Michael Kennedy. Kubrick died overseas, I doubt 2 police detectives would be involved. I am with the King guess also.

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