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12-24-2012 02:57 PM

klem

Re: Passport 41

The passport 41 was a later iteration of the 40 and I believe that less boats were made to this design. The major difference is the stern which has already been discussed.

Regarding putting a wind vane on this type of stern, it has been done to a 41 before so I would not expect it to be a problem. You can see one example here Scanmar International.

I have never been fortunate enough to actually be underway on one but sailing next to them and being aboard at the dock, I have really been impressed. While you can't get your heart set on one boat or model (especially if there were not many made), I would definitely keep this on my list of boats to look at given your criteria.

12-24-2012 08:53 AM

chef2sail

Re: Passport 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melrna

It is possible to put a wind vane on a sugar scoop transom. Monitor makes one and it pivots out of the way when the boat is at anchor. This allows access to the sugar scoop for swimming and dinghy access. I have seen this on a Caliber 40 LRC.
It is possible to convert most sloops to a cutter rig with a solent stay. There is a good article on this modification in the current Sail Magazine. It is removable.

Garhauer makes a nice pole which you can put the wind genrator or which is made for boats with sugar scoop transoms. Comes with detachable engine hoist.

I second the idea of a Solent stay. Makes a great deal of sense to me. Our boat has a removable inner stay that I can attach a staysail or storm jib too. Staysail is rarely used, the storm jib never been used. Having a tall, heavy 90% jib ready to pull out would be very handy even if it meant that tacking the big jib would be a problem. Not sure that having the Solent stay removable would be a big help. You need to put it and its sail somewhere.

12-23-2012 08:21 AM

Melrna

Re: Passport 41

It is possible to put a wind vane on a sugar scoop transom. Monitor makes one and it pivots out of the way when the boat is at anchor. This allows access to the sugar scoop for swimming and dinghy access. I have seen this on a Caliber 40 LRC.
It is possible to convert most sloops to a cutter rig with a solent stay. There is a good article on this modification in the current Sail Magazine. It is removable.

12-21-2012 10:57 AM

Faster

Re: Passport 41

Took another look at the listing.. noticed another major departure from typical Passports. No external teak. Anodized toerail (plus), no teak caprail, eyebrow trim or wooden handrails on deck (plus) Down below she looks essentially unchanged. Mast position is same as std Passport 40.

Without the wood trim she's perhaps not as 'pretty', but a lot less maintenance.

12-21-2012 10:26 AM

chef2sail

Re: Passport 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irunbird

Ha-ha! Well, the way I've been spending money on our Olson 30, I'm not sure there'll be much left for the big boat! I've probably changed my mind at least a dozen times over the past 4 years or so about which boat I think we'd like best, but we're definitely taking our time doing it... I've actually been looking at a few Tartan 4100's that look pretty nice- just not the tankage and none of them are cutter-rigged (or can accommodate any sort of staysail).

OUr frinds Tartan 4100 has a removeable inner forestay, so there is a way for you to add that.

dave

12-21-2012 09:29 AM

hannah2

Re: Passport 41

Ray, take your time sounds like you have it and you will find the boat. Maybe it is time to stop spending money on the Olson.

You want to spend money buy a new boat. We have 5 months left before completion so we are having fun now. New boat, new everything, dishes, towels, custom sheets, Paper charts for the next 5 to 7 years, 60 pounds worth of Bellingham 2/3 charts close to 500 charts. Engine spare parts, Gale rider, cookware, eprib, Sat phone. I spent 3 days in Seattle two weeks ago buying boat gear close to 8 hours per day on each day. They loved to see me coming. Next, European shopping over the internet, electronics and everything else. It's a full time job. At least with a good used boat most of the stuff should be on it when you sign papers.

There are a lot of nice boats out there to be looked at and one to be bought but make sure you take your wife with you, it's no good without here to decide.

12-20-2012 09:32 PM

Irunbird

Re: Passport 41

Ha-ha! Well, the way I've been spending money on our Olson 30, I'm not sure there'll be much left for the big boat! I've probably changed my mind at least a dozen times over the past 4 years or so about which boat I think we'd like best, but we're definitely taking our time doing it... I've actually been looking at a few Tartan 4100's that look pretty nice- just not the tankage and none of them are cutter-rigged (or can accommodate any sort of staysail).

12-20-2012 09:18 PM

hannah2

Re: Passport 41

Ray, I'm sure that boat was designed to be a cutter rig with the mast further aft, you might check on that. If you went with inner forestay arrangement already on the boat and mast, you would need to add two more winches in the cockpit. Also you can put the German made Windpilot Pacific on that stern. Might be tight getting to the ladder but doable and a great wind vane.

Looking at what is on the boat and the sloop rig looks like the first owners cut some costs or didn't want much in the way of gear.

So that you do not get kicked out of the house I'd wait till your wife allows you to really do some retail theropy. I think you could do a lot better than that boat.

Good luck.

12-20-2012 08:59 PM

Faster

Re: Passport 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irunbird

..... What would be the problem with a scoop transom other than the vane gear issue?

No problem.. it's an asset otherwise. The only possible 'downside' of that style of platform is the need to still climb 'up and over' the transom as opposed to today's more popular 'walk throughs'.. But still as a dinghy access and swimming access point it's much better than just a ladder, and a big improvement over the P40's accessibility with its overhanging transom.

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