http://media.blubrry.com/eatthebankers/p/content.blubrry.com/eatthebankers/JOHN_CHAMBERS-12-28-2018.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 19:50 — 18.2MB)Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Android | RSSA conversation with John Chambers, former CEO of Cisco Systems and author of “Connecting the Dots: Lessons for Leadership in a Startup World”.

http://media.blubrry.com/eatthebankers/p/content.blubrry.com/eatthebankers/ETIENNE_DEFFARGES-07-27-2018.mp3Podcast: Play in new window | Download (Duration: 19:49 — 11.3MB)Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Android | RSSSinclair Noe interviews Etienne Deffarges, author of “Untangling the USA: The Cost of Complexity and What Can Be Done About It”