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I was flying a guys Shadow over the weekend and i really liked it. He was kind enough to let me fly it after i was unsuccessful in getting my heavy old school flying wings kite in the air. Now im wondering which of these two i shoud buy.

+1 for the Shadow. I've flown the shadow and it is fun to fly just be gentle. I have a Zephyr and it is NOT an SUL and in my opinion it's barely an ultralight. It will fly in relatively low winds but is nearly impossible (for me) to operate well under 3-4mph. The shadow will fly well in very light wind.

+2 The shadow is a great low wind kite that will fly and trick down to a genuine 2mph ( it will probably fly a little lower in ideal winds but tricks may be more difficult). Good for most tricks, really nice 540's, the only one that is difficult is the one pop yoyo. It's also pretty tough for a (S)UL - I've had mine 3 years and only replaced one LLE.

Thanks guys for all the replies. I knew that shadow was a good kite when i was flying it, considering im pretty new to stunt kites it flew nice in next to no wind.Ill pick one up this week then ill need to find out about the bridle mod.

The Shadow was, for me, a breakthrough vehicle........Got my first mulilazies in near zero wind and it has helped me to soften my hugely hard hands to a point where I think that sooner or later, (probably later) I would have a chance to fly smoooooth..............

(you know........like Tom and wellyou know,......... how many other gifted Ones)