Hear Amie Kaufman, New York Times best-selling co-author of the STARBOUND trilogy and the ILLUMINAE series, talk shipwrecks and her favorite sound, how science fiction is fantasy for the real world, using "shenanigans ensue" as a plotting device, and my new favorite thing: the “shut up and take my money” list.

Quote from Pullman (in THE GOLDEN COMPASS) about ideas having a “soap bubble” phase: “The idea hovered and shimmered delicately, like a soap bubble, and she dared not even look at it directly in case it burst. But she was familiar with the way of ideas, and she let it shimmer, looking away, thinking about something else.”

Join me and Josephine Angelini, author of the STARCROSSED trilogy, and the WORLDWALKER series (the finale, WITCH’S PYRE, is out now!), as we talk about houses burning down, trading a diary for writing fiction, and how long you can avoid the reality that you are meant to write.