WASHINGTON—Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday that the federal government may challenge Arizona's new law on immigration. The attorney general told reporters that he fears Arizona's new law is subject to potential abuse. The Arizona law requires state law enforcement officials to ask people for documentation if they are suspected to be in the country illegally, and makes...

How dose Obama have the arrogance to call this law misguided. If the federal government would uphold the laws that they take an oath to do Arizona and possibly other states would not have to take it upon them selves to pass laws in an effort to save their state from financial ruin. Obama and his crew need to get off their a** and enforce immigration laws and quit worrying about losing the illegal vote.

President Barack Obama has instructed the Justice Department to examine the Arizona law that he said threatens to "undermine basic notions of fairness."

What about the fairness to the citizens of Arizona? That always seems to be glossed over. this whole thing is happening because the CITIZENS are being ignored by the government. I agree the new law may be too harsh, but I have a feeling that Arizona is doing this to bring their problem to light, and this time the government can;t avoid it. If the Government does it job, this law does not have to be passed, it's that simple.

McWin22 wrote:How dose Obama have the arrogance to call this law misguided. If the federal government would uphold the laws that they take an oath to do Arizona and possibly other states would not have to take it upon them selves to pass laws in an effort to save their state from financial ruin. Obama and his crew need to get off their a** and enforce immigration laws and quit worrying about losing the illegal vote.

It's misguided because it is an unfunded mandate. A state on the verge of financial ruin isn't poised to stretch it's resources even thinner with a bill such as this. Further, it will make racial profiling official policy, which will lead to lawsuits and even more fiscal problems down the road. I seriously doubt that Obama is wary of this bill because he'll lose "illegal votes." It seems far more likely he's worried about losing the "civil/human rights vote." I, for one, would certainly lose faith in his character if he succumbed to the xenophobic frustration of Arizonans. Allowing latino-americans to face undue scrutiny because people who look like them might be illegal immigrants is not a compromise he's willing to make, apparently. And I applaud him for risking the loss of the "xenophobe/racist vote" to stand up for those American citizens in AZ who would suffer under this law. It amazes me that the "America first" and "small government" groups are so willing to give the government and police this kind of power, especially when it is American citizens who are most likely to suffer from it.

I am a member of the planet first, the species second, and the nation a very distant third. There is no fourth.

The tyranny of the majority. If enough people, or even 50% +1 then anything would be OK? Say writing a law that recommends rounding up anyone who looks "Mexican" and locking them up? Better yet, let's just have mob rule, if you believe you have been wronged then you can take justice into your hands. The majority can't be wrong, can it?

Who should enforce Federal law? I suppose the Fed but in the case of illegal immigration, what has the Fed done? With over 400,000 illegal immigrants in Arizona alone there appears to be some holes in that enforcement.

I think Arizona made it a state law and therefore are allowed, possibly even obligated to enforce it.

We are booking our vacation in Sedona right now. I will boycott Mexico though, at this point it's almost the same thing. Does that help?

MODE wrote:I didn't realize that the executive branch of the federal government routinely reviews and challenges state law. Is this common?

Absolutely. The federal government can challenge state laws if it brings into question federal law or matters of constitutionality.

Absolutely? You mean the Fed has the right or to answer my question, is this common? I thought matters of constitutionality were handled by the court system. I thought the executive branch of the Fed existed to Execute law passed by congress and if challenged, approved by the court.

How typical of this Administration to protect foreign citizens' "rights" at the expense of the rights of legal citizens of the United States of America. Forty-five years ago the notion of a "Manchurian Candidate" was considered paranoid fiction. Sadly, we are seeing first-hand how life imitates art.

Onthe topic of living with the Nazis, that is completely out of line. Do you have any experience on which to base this inflamatory statement?

How dare you compare the State of Arizona enforcing American law with the extermination of millions of people? Starvation, rape, experimentation and death based on race and allegience was the Nazi program. You are saying that is the same as asking someone for their identification and if found to be in the county illegally they will be punished not by death by by jail, fines or deportation? Do you think the victims of the Nazi death camps might have accepted deportation instead of a trip gas chamber? Your lack of perspective is alarming at best and borders on criminal stupidity.

Elwood wrote:Well then act at the Federal Level, including the enforcement of ALL current immigration laws, not just the ones you want to.

Yeah, like the conditions of the Immigration and Reform Act of 1986 (IRCA) that required fining employers for knowingly hiring illegal aliens. This portion of the law has never been enforced, creating a "pull" from the United States for more cheap labor in Latin America. It is time that hypocritical Americans, many who call themselves patriots, stop cashing in on a slave class of individuals, illegal workers. This problem is one created as much by the unending greed of American business as the illegal acts of Mexicans.

Onthe topic of living with the Nazis, that is completely out of line. Do you have any experience on which to base this inflamatory statement?

How dare you compare the State of Arizona enforcing American law with the extermination of millions of people? Starvation, rape, experimentation and death based on race and allegience was the Nazi program. You are saying that is the same as asking someone for their identification and if found to be in the county illegally they will be punished not by death by by jail, fines or deportation? Do you think the victims of the Nazi death camps might have accepted deportation instead of a trip gas chamber? Your lack of perspective is alarming at best and borders on criminal stupidity.

Maybe the poster meant the pre-holocaust Nazis, which would certainly fit the bill. Blaming a race for their economic problems, then over-policing that race. Sounds pretty accurate to me.

I am a member of the planet first, the species second, and the nation a very distant third. There is no fourth.

If this were truly the case, you wouldn't have been able to post your statement because you would already be in a concentration camp waiting for your turn in the showers. Typical leftist overreaction and hyperbole. In fact, I DARE YOU to make this same statement to ANY holocaust survivor.

Any chance the next time Obama is in Arizona that the cops pull him over and make him prove his citizenship?No wonder why Obama is against this law...he doesn't believe in providing proof of citizenship.

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DumbLuck wrote:Maybe the poster meant the pre-holocaust Nazis, which would certainly fit the bill. Blaming a race for their economic problems, then over-policing that race. Sounds pretty accurate to me.

Really? Curious, how many Jewish drug cartels were operating in Germany in the 20's and 30's? How many Jews in Germany were surviving on government entitlements? How many Jews would kill a cop then flee to Mexico in an attempt to avoid prosecution? How many Jews...

Way to Godwin an argument without even knowing what you're talking about. Classic leftist hyperbole.