Rumsfeld cancels trip to Germany after accusations

The New York-based Centre for Constitutional Rights filed a
complaint in December with the Federal German Prosecutor's Office against Rumsfeld accusing him of war crimes and torture in connection with detainee
abuses at Iraq's Abu Ghraib prison.

Rumsfeld made it known immediately after the complaint was filed that he would not attend the Munich conference unless Germany quashed the legal
action.

Originally posted by ProphetOfYahweh
Way to go Germany! That would be something if the European Union declared war on America to stop it's tyranny.
[edit on 22-1-2005 by ProphetOfYahweh]

I think you can wait a long time till this happens, although some countries have different opinions regarding the war in iraq, we are allies for a
good reason. the case against rumsfeld has nothing to do with the german, or any other gouvernment, the organisation is just using our laws and
nothing else. declaring war on the US would be quite stupid, we are basicly sharing the same values, let us differ in some cases but we are allies.
but that doesn't mean we have to go to war whenever uncle sam calls us and a war can still be avoided.

I have another source from this article from another link not aljazeera, as you can see some member are to "touchy" about Aljazeera.Net.

Yes is true that Germany filed complains in their courts against Rumsfeld for the Abu Ghraib torture, and the US fought back with a warning to Germany
as to risking with that complain of US relationships.

Funny that Bush does not want to have any of his cronies accountable for the mistakes in Iraq or the administration and it expects the entire world to
do the same.

Does any body remember bush fight against US "frivolous law suits" we guess what? that is what is calling Germany law suit.

The law suit was filed in Germany on Nov. 30 by the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and Berlin's Republican Lawyers'
Association on behalf of four Iraqis who were alleged to have been mistreated by US soldiers.

See Iraqis that wants to suit US can not do it on US courts they have to go to other countries to do that.

Now you have to understand that Germany host about 70 thousand US troops and if relationships between US and Germany get sour, perhaps they will not
host US troops any more.

The groups that filed the complaint said they had chosen Germany because of its Code of Crimes Against International Law, introduced in 2002, which
grants German courts universal jurisdiction in cases involving war crimes or crimes against humanity.

As you can see the law suit has been around but the latest news of Rumsfeld not wanting to leave US is, but who knows perhaps that is the reason he
rather stay ''Cozy at Home"

By the way Belgium also filed a law sue But Rumsfeld warn them that US would stop funding to a new NATO headquarter in the country and that US will
reconsider its meetings in Brussels as lone as the law was in place.

So Belgium gave up.

So much for US "NWO" I guess it can work for some countries after all.

Perhaps the trip planned to Germany to the February annual security conferences has been cancel due to Germany not giving up their law suit.

Rumsfeld has informed the German government via the US embassy that he will not take part in the annual Munich security conference in February should
the investigation proceed.

If any country tried to arrest the head of a U.S. department or the President, it would be considered a declaration of war. I would support the use of
nuclear weapons against any country that attempted that, even Canada or Germany etc.

Originally posted by djohnsto77
If any country tried to arrest the head of a U.S. department or the President, it would be considered a declaration of war. I would support the use of
nuclear weapons against any country that attempted that, even Canada or Germany etc.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
protest that any judge
would be dumb enough to agree to look into this.

If the complaint is investigated and found to be valid, why would a judge be stuppid to look into it?
Maybe in the US a judge is stuppid for doing his job when it involves high ranking goverment officials, but in places where the legal system isn't a
complete farse, its quite normal for a judge to do his damn job and handle a case that has sufficient evidence presented to proceed.

Originally posted by djohnsto77
If any country tried to arrest the head of a U.S. department or the President, it would be considered a declaration of war. I would support the use of
nuclear weapons against any country that attempted that, even Canada or Germany etc.

My god, so if one person was arrested you would support the death of millions? You are plainly evil, and i hope that comment you made will scar your
soul.

Would never happen, America would not respond kindly to such a action. I could see us seizing bank accounts, Ambassadors and etc. Its not going to
happen. If it did it would suffer severe reprocussions.

Originally posted by thematrix
but in places where the legal system isn't a complete
farse, its quite normal for a judge to do his damn job

Then that wouldn't be Germany. And the judge wouldn't be doing
his 'damn job' by clogging up the courts with a partisan bigotted
joke of a 'case' against a high ranking American official. He'd be
clogging the courts and sucking German tax money just because
some freak job without a life wants to make a name for himself
by putting some bite on his, and his country's, anti-american bigotry.

Originally posted by djohnsto77
If any country tried to arrest the head of a U.S. department or the President, it would be considered a declaration of war. I would support the use of
nuclear weapons against any country that attempted that, even Canada or Germany etc.

You have got to be freaking kidding...using nuclear weapons in retaliation for the arrest of one person who is probably guilty? Why should this
administration, or any administration be immune from being prosecuted for crimes that are against humanity? We would do the same for other
countries...should they then use nucs on us for arresting one of thier leaders??? Is it really justified?

Didn''t bush fight being included in the world court so that he and his administration would not be able to be held accountable for these types of
crimes against humanity??????????????????

Originally posted by twitchy
illegal invasion of Afghanistan and and Iraq?

This always makes me laugh.

'Illegal'. Yeah right.
It's called WAR. War is war. It isn't a court situation.
It's WAR.

Illegal ....

Not to rehash the situation because obviously you
don't care, but UBL was the mastermind of the 9/11
attacks. He, and his army, had free reign in
Afghanistan. Their training camps were there...
the fighters were there ... etc. etc.

We do not need to ask permission to attack those
who have declared war upon us and who had
already attacked us. DUH.

'Illegal' ...
how incredibly silly.

By your way of thinking, England should have
sought permission from some unknown entity
to defend itself from Germany in WWII.

You guys on the radical left really ought to try to
come up with some fresh rhetoric .. this old stuff
is laughable.

Originally posted by twitchy
illegal invasion of Afghanistan and and Iraq?

Not to rehash the situation because obviously you
don't care, but UBL was the mastermind of the 9/11
attacks. He, and his army, had free reign in
Afghanistan. Their training camps were there...
the fighters were there ... etc. etc.

We do not need to ask permission to attack those
who have declared war upon us and who had
already attacked us. DUH.

I wan't aware that Iraq had attacked us...it was Osama!!!!!!!!!

Do you really think that Saddam was involved? w3bsuh wants you to believe that for justification for invading Iraq and continuing his family fued.

The Iraq invasion is a hostile corporate takeover being paid for in blood by our nations youth...our finest! What a tragic, horrific waste!

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