Forgotten Realms Wiki:Requests

The Requests page is for making requests for new articles or edits to be made to existing articles, in order to fix problems and better target our work to meet the needs of our readers and Forgotten Realms fans.

You may request, for example:

New article: Ask for a new article to be written. Be aware that a new article takes effort in research and writing, and editors might not have the information available, so new articles aren't often likely to be written.

More information: Ask for more information to be added to an article. As above, this takes effort and so won't be very likely.

Rewrite: If you find a page containing information copied outright from a sourcebook, then notify us so that it can be deleted, rewritten, or tagged for later clean-up. See the {{Plagiarism}} template.

Copy-edit: A professional-level copy-editing of a page to clear up spelling mistakes, bad grammar, confusing language, present-tense and out-of-universe points-of-view, and untidy formatting. This will generally be handled by User:BadCatMan, User:Lhynard, or preferably by another native-English-speaking editor (add your name to the list here if you feel capable). Requests can also be made directly at the following links:

Referencing: Ask someone to find a reference for an unreferenced article.

Fact check: Does something not sound right or do you think you know better? Ask for a second opinion on some information in an article.

Bug check: If you find a bug or broken template or code, then maybe we can fix it if you notify us.

New feature: Request a new feature. Be aware that this may require extensive coding, wide-scale changes, be against policy, or require someone to manage it, so these aren't likely to be fulfilled.

Help: If you need some help crafting an article or learning about an aspect of the wiki, then you can ask us here. Lengthy instructions will be directed to individual Talk pages.

Something else: If it's something else that needs doing, then try us.

Please do not request more than a few tasks at a time so that the list does not grow absurdly large. Please don't make requests idly either; focus on things useful to you or important to the setting or the wiki. Tell us why you want to know or what you want to use it for, so we know we can help the fans. Furthermore, focus your requests on specific topics, not wider subjects, so they can be more easily addressed. Requests that are against existing policy will not be addressed. Changes to policy will not be addressed here, but at individual policy discussions (on Talk pages or in the Forum).

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;Title or Subject
* Article: [[Article name]]
* Type: Choose one of the above reasons to better target the work.
* Action: What needs to be done.
* Reason: Why it needs to be done.
* Information: List any sources that may be useful.
* Requested by: Your name or signature, plus a date (just enter four tildes, ~~~~)
* Response: If someone plans to do this, or has further information, then add it here, plus your signature.
* Resolution: What was done. Give your name and signature.

Reason: It's been linked to from the pages of the various deities within the pantheon, and the page is rather important because it's for the largest pantheon in the book. It's confusing that it doesn't have it's own page (was for me at least...). Thank you!

Response: While we lack an article at Faerûnian pantheon, the redirect to the next best thing (the portal page) is appropriate. So, are you requesting a proper article on the Faerûnian pantheon? — BadCatMan (talk) 08:02, September 8, 2018 (UTC)

I guess I am... I was looking for a page I could send my potential cleric player, and say "Here. Choose from those." The other pantheon pages are mostly just a descriptive list of the deities. I was going to make a page for it when I noticed the redirect. If it was released, I'd be willing to work on it. Ilkka (talk) 13:01, September 8, 2018 (UTC)

I would love to write an article about the Faerûnian pantheon, provided nobody objects.

Action: Identifying the various Xanathars, coming up with an elegant solution for dealing with their articles. Separate articles or one combined?

Reason: Xanathar is an important character in 5th edition, and will serve as one of the villains in the upcoming adventure Waterdeep: Dragon Heist. It would be good if the wiki could help dispel confusion about the multiple incarnations of Xanathar.

Response: I'm currently working in Waterdeep, so I could take a look. The original Xanathar appears in the comics, so I'd need to sort him out eventually. However, there's some 4e-era magazine material I don't have access to and the 5e lore I don't follow. Since there are multiple Xanathars, perhaps we could each take one? I claim the original if so.

However, we'd need to settle what to call the various pages. With "the Xanathar" becoming a title for the later beholders, I'd propose we have a Xanathar (disambiguation) page and maybe a Xanathar page for the title alone or have that be the disambig page. Fortunately, it seems most have their ow names, which makes titling them easier: Xanathar (original) for the first one; Kirukeskai for the second one (a.k.a. "The Eye"); another for the third one, whatever its real name is; and Izulktur and Zushaxx for later ones. It looks like Zushaxx is the latest one. Does this sound like a plan? — BadCatMan (talk) 09:27, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

There's also likely a "Xanathar III" who succeeded Kirukeskai (looks like conflicting sources). I can write Xandulzrithral and Izulktur. I'd prefer not writing Zushaxx since I am not up to date with 5e novels.

As for splitting the articles, I think I would prefer Xanathar as the disambig, with a brief explanation of the title. I am not sure there's much to say about the title itself, but I could be wrong. --Ir'revrykal (talk) 10:29, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

I'd love to write about Kirukeskai if no one has already plans or objections.18:12, June 4, 2018 (UTC)~ User:Saya222

It's possible to write about the title if one had to. With the Thultyrls, a family name turned title but with mostly unnamed and undetailed holders, I wrote about the title itself with its history, responsibilities, etc., and folded the unnamed members into it. It could be possible to do the same here, but it might not be necessary, as the Xanathars are mostly named and like not very consistent. So, an outside possibility, maybe. :) — BadCatMan (talk) 11:16, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

That would work very well indeed. --Ir'revrykal (talk) 15:40, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

Ditto. I have done "title" articles as well, such as Red Rysal. In such a case, there is no need for a disambiguation page, as the article will include a "Known Xanathars" or "Notable Xanathars" section. ~ Lhynard (talk) 17:00, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

Information: The river in question is only present on the map included with the Silver Marches sourcebook. It is, however, not named in that source. As of 5th edition Faerûn, the river no longer exists. I think it's fair to say that "Spire Flow" is a homebrew name, and that the river itself is either a cartographical error, or only existed for a very brief time pre-Spellplague. --Ir'revrykal (talk) 10:08, December 27, 2017 (UTC)

Action: Cleaning up the Creatures Categories, also, can there be a link to creatures from the Main Page?

Reason: the categories are very difficult to navigate, and tracking down a specific species/race/monster (or group of such) is near-impossible. Secondarily, the Races Portal brings up specific people as well as species.

Information: Already there, just need rearranging.

Requested by: A Fandom User

Response: I have been slowly working through these, but there is a huge mess and five editions to handle. ~ Lhynard (talk) 22:11, December 31, 2017 (UTC)

Response: If I may suggest some ideas, please put the Fiend, Celestial, and Fey as subcategories at the top of Category:Creatures page. Under Fiend, put the following sub-subcategories: Demon (with further categories of Obyrith, Tanar'ri, Loumara, and Demon Lord), Devil (Baatezu and Archdevil), Yugoloth, Archfiend (Demon Lords and Archdevils), and Half-fiends (creatures like draegloths and cambions). Celestial could be further divided into Angel (Devas), Celestial Archons, Guardinals, Celestial Eladrin, and Celestial Paragons. Also, remove the Demon category from under the Elemental Creatures category. This is all just my suggestions, but I feel like these changes would be very helpful. Thanks!--SilverTiger12 (talk) 13:15, February 6, 2018 (UTC)

I'm not so sure you should remove demons from the Elemental Creatures category. I think that is a 4e thing and we try to remain edition-agnostic. However, I will defer to the creature experts. —Moviesign (talk) 01:07, February 8, 2018 (UTC)

Well, at the very least add the Fiends & Celestial Categories. It is a real pain to hunt down the devil and celestial pages in the long list of creatures, and getting to demons by way of elemental creatures is almost as bad.I don't mean to be rude or demanding, but it is annoying and I'd appreciate it if those categories were added. Thanks for your help.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 13:29, February 8, 2018 (UTC)

As I noted above, many sections of the categories are a mess, admittedly, that Darkwynters and I and others have been working through. But I think that you are just missing where to look. The way that we want it to be is that Category:Creatures contains mostly "Creatures by..." subcategories and nothing else. I just went right now to create a Category:Creatures by origin, which is what we should have had for a long time to handle the 4e origins concept. And I have removed the origin categories that were wrongly so high in the hierarchy. That should make things much better. So then, now, if you are a 4e person, Creatures by Origin is your route. If you think more in 3e or 5e terms, click through to Category:Creatures by type. Here, you will find Category:Fey and Category:Outsiders. All Category:Fiends and Category:Celestials are outsiders, so they should not be listed higher in the hierarchy. From what I can tell, the subcategories from here on are pretty good already. Are there particular areas under Fey, Fiends, or Celestials that are wrong? ~ Lhynard (talk) 15:59, February 8, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, actually: there seems to be a blurring, of sorts, between "Creatures" and "Inhabitants". Specific demons (such as Errtu) are listed under the "Demons" category. This creates confusion, as just looking through that category page could indicate that Errtu is a kind of demon, rather than a specific balor. It creates categories for specific demonic races, which is also confusing. Could there be a a set of categories (i.e., "Demonic Inhabitants") created to remove specific individuals from creature categories?--SilverTiger12 (talk) 20:41, February 23, 2018 (UTC)

I fixed Errtu just now for you. He was "over categorized". This is wrong. Any individual is supposed to only have his or her most specific race category. This is different from the "Individuals of Foo" categories, where each individual gets all of the categories from the most specific to the most general. These changes must be made for each article one-by-one. Feel free to make such changes as you see them. I am currently, as I noted, making my way through all of the creature categories, but I am in Category:Humanoids; it will be a while before I get to Category:Outsiders, especially since it is a side product, and my real-life job is very busy lately. ~ Lhynard (talk) 23:46, February 23, 2018 (UTC)

Response: I have started an attempt to clean up the categories, by sifting inhabitants out of larger categories.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 22:59, March 5, 2018 (UTC)

Resolution: Uploaded about 30 images from Silver Marches at reduced resolution and lossy compression to claim Fair Use. There are a few more, but no articles to put them in. —Moviesign (talk) 19:38, September 30, 2018 (UTC)

Action: May I ask somebody to confirm the new domain additions (three new domains, all red link) to the page and if they are correct to write articles about these domains?

Reason: The reason is a bit stupid. I never heard of the Avarice domain. Therefore I grew curious about it. Envy and Pride are found in the Spell Compendium.

Information: The citation, of which no template exists, lists Dragon 323 page 65 in an article called "Seven Deadly Sins". There is no template for it and Dragon magazine 323 does not list the article up. Therefore my request would be to confirm whether the article exists at all and if yes whether the article concerns itself with the FR-version of Vhaeraun. For example, the Greyhawk-version has different domains than the FR-version.

Yes, the magazine article has lists of suggested Core and FR deities (I'd say more than a dozen in each list) that could grant the 7 deadly domains. Vhaeraun is on some of those lists. There are also some new spells to go with the new Domains. —Moviesign (talk) 23:22, September 17, 2018 (UTC)

Hello Moviesign, thank you for looking up. May I ask whether Vhaeraun really is listed up for these three domains and not for others? Saya222 (talk) 05:54, September 18, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I believe so. I will verify when I get back to my books this evening, and I will help write the new articles. —Moviesign (talk) 13:39, September 18, 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Moviesign. I created the articles Avarice domain, Envy domain, and Pride domain. May I ask you to especially check on the Avarice domain? Also, does the dragon article say anything lore-wise about these domains? For example why these gods grant these domains that primarily showcase a weak spot?—Saya222 (talk) 16:21, September 18, 2018 (UTC)

Resolution: Articles for new domains were written. Project expanded to include the 7 Deadly Domains and the deities that may grant them. Spells were updated with the new domains and categories were created for both spells and deities. —Moviesign (talk) 18:39, September 23, 2018 (UTC)

Requested by: User:Daranios in an edit comment on 14:56, 22 December 2017

Response: I might get around to this when I'm back home with all my books. —Moviesign (talk) 17:52, December 24, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, I added the tiny bit from the 4th edition Player's Guide. I think we can call this done. —Moviesign (talk) 01:27, September 17, 2018 (UTC)

Response: Thanks for the offer (it was not meant as a formal request). I had already started it on my computer, you can see the stub now. If you get around to it that would be nice, I guess I would also expand it myself within some time. Daranios (talk) 21:36, December 24, 2017 (UTC)

Response: I have done what I could get at. I don't have any 4th edition material, so if you could add what's in the Forgotten Realms Player's Guide some time, that would be great! Daranios (talk) 20:51, December 30, 2017 (UTC)

Information: As an aside: There was also a Dragon magazine column within 2nd edition also called Campaign Classics. I have taken the liberty of using the title until the relationship to the Campaign Classics issues has been worked out by someone. And by the way, the Dragon magazine 315 article calls it Classic Campaigns instead. Is this an error in the article or were both terms used by Paizo? Daranios (talk) 20:12, August 5, 2018 (UTC)

Response: I think RPG.net's Dragon list answers both our questions, at least as far as magazine titles are concerned: The three you mentioned are the only ones called "Campaign Classics" or "Classic Campaigns". Daranios (talk) 15:12, August 6, 2018 (UTC)

Reason: I have a copy of the Maztica sourcebook, and would like to write about the Maztican Pantheon, but I don't know how to set up an entire page. If someone can get it set up, I'll fill it in, though.

Thanks. I'll try to get as much done this week, but it might be a bit strung out, so please be patient. I will get most of it cleaned up myself, but there's this pesky thing called school that likes to interfere. At some point I'll ask for help with references, but that will have to wait for the weekend when I don't have homework. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 13:34, January 23, 2018 (UTC)

No worries: no rush, no fuss. :) We all work at our own pace and on our own interests here, and taking it steady and checking things over reduces errors and lets others help out. Selûne knows I have a lot of projects on the go and waiting for time and attention. — BadCatMan (talk) 14:11, January 23, 2018 (UTC)

Well, that's what I get for speaking hastily. It is actually nearly done. I just need to get to the references. If someone wants to check it over and give suggestions/criticism, I'm open. But please do not edit the references. Or the little numbers. I need those.

Well, I have done what I can right now. If someone could give it a look-over, it can probably be marked as done. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 19:42, January 23, 2018 (UTC)

Response: Okay, I have finished what I could. If someone wants to go over the article (and the articles on the deities), I think it could be declared finished. And the stub/incomplete banners removed from the various deities, because I rewrote all those articles too.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:41, January 24, 2018 (UTC)

Got that taken care. Although, going back, I discovered that I'd made an error concerning the Green Folk- I got something from the character pages mixed up with the Green Folk pages. Again, many thanks for help, especially to Moviesign for patiently teaching me how to reference things.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 02:39, January 25, 2018 (UTC)

Resolution: I have completed the Maztican pantheon articles to the best of my ability. I believe that this task can be marked as completed now.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 23:32, February 5, 2018 (UTC)

Response: I'm not sure I understand what you are requesting. ~ Lhynard (talk) 00:55, March 6, 2017 (UTC)

Response: Did you think about something like this, or, including some years/events separating ages, this? I imagine something more sophisticated could be done, like Template:Yearbox for years, but that would be too much for my programming knowledge. In fact I already would need help with the second version, because the idea was to have the year numbers in each second line below the separation dot of the ages, but I don't know how to change the uniform spacing. I am also no expert in the ages themselves, so I am not sure if I got them right. Daranios (talk) 19:33, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

Response: Thought about it again, and I have created a third version, simply listing Toril's/Abeir-Toril's most dramatic events instead of trying to create a timeline - so simpler than the second but more expansive the the first version. Daranios (talk) 20:10, October 25, 2017 (UTC)

Response: Is this what you had in mind? I left the borders in so you could see the alignment/separation, but they would likely be taken out in the final version. Did you plan on this being a banner across the top of a page or a navbox at the bottom? —Moviesign (talk) 22:32, October 25, 2017 (UTC)

Response: I love it! (Without the borders in the end-version would be nice.) I imagined it as a navbox at the bottom, now let's see what Zeromaru X had in mind in the first place. Daranios (talk) 15:17, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

I really like the classic feel of the green template. An yes, is something like that what I asked. An easy way to navigate between ages. Now, we have to update those ages, lol... (Edit) Now that I think about it, you should also include stuff for Abeir. There is not much, but there is stuff like the Rule of Dragons and events such as the War of Fang and Talon and the Dragonborn rebellion. --Zero (talk) 16:28, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

Ok, help me out. Where should those Abeir events go? In their own section, or in with the others? and what order? —Moviesign (talk) 19:47, October 27, 2017 (UTC)

In their own tab, perhaps? I'm not good in design stuffs, though. Just below Torilian events and before the crossover event? (the Spellplague). --Zero (talk) 04:38, November 13, 2017 (UTC)

Take another look and see if that looks right to you. You can edit it, if you'd like. —Moviesign (talk) 17:55, November 13, 2017 (UTC)

I've modified the last template a bit. Are you ok with that? --Zero (talk) 15:01, November 14, 2017 (UTC)

Reason: A layer(?) of the Abyss with a name but no number; not that it is especially relevant to anything, but I would like to shed light on this strange anomaly.

Information: Both Faiths & Avatars and Netheril: Empire of Magic give Monander's realm as Rarandreth/Offalmound in the Abyss, where Rarandreth stands for the planar layer. For other deities from the Abyss, a number is given here, not a name. Does anyone know the reason for this exception? Is there more information anywhere, maybe in the novels featuring Moander?

Response: Thanks a lot! So I did not look in the right places. I will put this information into the articles. I don't have the Hordes of the Abyss. Is there also a description there? Daranios (talk) 20:28, September 7, 2017 (UTC)

Response: Afraid not. There's short entries on a number of layers, but Rarandreth is skipped (in favor of #222, Shedaklah). --Ir'revrykal (talk) 15:10, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Resolution: I have put the existing information into the three articles in question, making redirects for Offalmound and Rarandreth. (And it seems I happened to lead brave Sirwhiteout on the trail of the problematic Layers of the Abyss article in the process :-).) —Daranios (talk) 15:05, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Living Forgotten Realms ref tag — done!

Type: Reference tag

Action: A new reference tag for Living Forgotten Realms stuff.

Reason: It would be helpful for articles that can be updated with LFR stuff. I am requesting this because I suck at wikicode.

Response: I can do this, but are there any special fields that you need? Take a look at {{Cite web}} and {{Cite adventurers league/Defiance in Phlan}} and see if one of those looks like what you want. (I need to write documentation for the Cite adventurers league template.) For example, is there a code number? If you edit the second link you will see code is a parameter I added and made it part of the title link. Do these templates belong in the same group as Living Forgotten Realms? And how does this relate to the Adventurers League? —Moviesign (talk) 13:58, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Response: Every adventure has its own code and different authors, so the adventurers league format fits perfect (you can check that stuff in the LFR website). I don't know how they did with Malatra, but I guess this ref tag would be useful with that LFR adventures as well. LFR and Adventures League are unrelated. However, LFR has a lot of background information about the Realms in the 4e era that can help to better document stuff in the wiki.--Zero (talk) 14:10, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Would you say the publisher is Wizards of the Coast, or would RPGA Network be more appropriate? I think WotC owns the RPGA trademark and sanctions the LFR, but it looks like RPGA is the actual publisher. Thoughts? —Moviesign (talk) 16:15, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I think that would help to deal with the many authors that wrote those adventures.--Zero (talk) 20:31, March 25, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you are trying to say about the number of authors. I can change the publisher to RPGA or RPGA Network, but I'm not sure if I can find a meaningful link for it. —Moviesign (talk) 01:25, March 26, 2017 (UTC)

If you could give me some representative links to things you want to cite, I will draft the template design. —Moviesign (talk) 14:09, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

You can check articles like Tarmalune or Harglast. Most info in those articles is from LFR, and that is the stuff I like to link. --Zero (talk) 16:03, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Response: Interesting place. I don't know about novels, but from this index, there are some impressively disturbing hints in Anauroch, page 63, and the FRCS 3e, page 175, describes a bit of the shade's activities. Curiously, Netheril: Empire of Magic doesn't mention the pyramids at all, implying they appeared later. The dragon Iymrith lairs in Ascore. — BadCatMan (talk) 03:35, March 21, 2017 (UTC)

Resolution: I've begun to develop the page. I think I've said as much as is known about the pyramids, but I'll continue to finish up Ascore. I hope it's not too late for you. :) — BadCatMan (talk) 14:09, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

I'm always happy to see articles get expanded, but alas, the PCs left Ascore last session. They never got a good look at the pyramids, because they were only passing through on the way into the desert and wanted to avoid the Shadovar. They did end up fighting a dune stalker though. ~ Lhynard (talk) 22:04, May 16, 2017 (UTC)

Okay then. I don't think you would have missed anything anyway: there's precious little actually about the place, and not much more than was already on the article. I'll finish it up anyway. Who knows, maybe your team will have a return journey? :) — BadCatMan (talk) 03:35, May 17, 2017 (UTC)

The article is complete as far as I can make it from 1e/2e/3e sources. — BadCatMan (talk) 12:21, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

I dug about more using Google and found some interesting things from the Candlekeep Forums. Check out the changes to the article if you are interested. And thanks for expanding it! It is nearly GA quality now. – Lhynard

Response: I have plans to do this as part of my Utter East project, and considered doing it earlier. It's called Herne's Wood in the Blood & Magic game, and some battles take place there. The unattributed Utter East novel map drops a "Mead-Hall of the Northmen" there. Unfortunately, The Forgotten Realms Atlas does nothing more than mention it. I'd have to look for more Kara-Tur lore; the Segara Sea and Tempat Larang border the area. However, IIRC, very little is known. Despite being a vast nexus between all three continents and campaign settings, Kara-Tur and Al-Qadim seem to have used it as a border area. Anyway, if you can do the Al-Qadim version, such as it is, I can do the rest. — BadCatMan (talk) 00:41, October 14, 2016 (UTC)

I've created the article with Kara-Tur lore, and introduced the Blood & Magic name and location, which I'll cover in more detail when I tackle that part of the game. Free free to spice it up with the Al-Qadim version! — BadCatMan (talk) 12:59, October 14, 2016 (UTC)

Very nice! Thanks! I have added what I could find from Al-Qadim sources. Daranios (talk) 20:52, October 14, 2016 (UTC)

Cool. We got much more than I expected. I'll keep hunting for lore, and might do the B&M information sooner. The original Oriental Adventures hints at a yuan-ti empire deep in the southern jungles of Kara-Tur, but since there are lots of jungles down there, in and around Malatra, I have to determine where the yuan-ti dwell. — BadCatMan (talk) 06:20, October 15, 2016 (UTC)

I couldn't narrow down these yuan-ti, not without being an expert on the Living Jungle setting. So, as far as canon goes, this is done. I'll get to the Herne's Wood part at some point. — BadCatMan (talk) 12:21, May 18, 2017 (UTC)

Response: As near as I can tell, a bakemono is a type of monster akin to a goblin, not a human (or demi-human) ethnicity. Dragon #318 says they claw/claw/bite and have 1+2 HD. I'll try tayanuchi... —Moviesign (talk) 21:37, January 9, 2016 (UTC) Sorry, tayanuchi search came up emtpy :-( —Moviesign (talk) 21:40, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

There is a little information on the Tayanulchi in Kara-Tur: The Eastern Realms Volume I pp. 91-95, which seem to be a now-lost tribe of the Issacortae, while the map there shows Tayanuchi lands north of Shou Lung, so I guess it's a typo and meant to be the same. The Horde Volume I p. 25 mentions the Tayanuchi (again without the "l") in passing, though there they are ranked with the Pazruki and Issarcortae, giving the impression of a separate ethnicity. Daranios (talk) 22:12, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

Response: That's right, the bakemono is a more savage, animalistic eastern goblinoid race. More recently, they were detailed in Oriental Adventures (3rd edition). It seems like the Tayanulchi are a lost tribe, but the Tayanuchi are still around, or at least, their lands and villages are still known. The Dragon #315 article on Kara-Tur doesn't mention them, so presumably they're lost. Anyway, I don't think human ethnicities were every really formally defined for Kara-Tur, except maybe the Shou and the mysterious Han, though the concept of ethnicity is mentioned in descriptions. — BadCatMan (talk) 05:59, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

Response: I looked over these ethnicities, and all are decent-sized projects. Doing them all in detail would mean a region-scale development. I'll wrap up Koryoan at some point and could do the Tsu-tsu as an intersection with my the Way project. Do you want the rest in detail, or will stubs be fine? — BadCatMan (talk) 01:27, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Actually, stubs are fine by me, for now, provided they at least provide the sourcebook where one could look up more information. ~ Lhynard (talk) 19:32, March 16, 2017 (UTC)

Resolution: While there are more Kara-Turan ethnicities to cover (and I will steadily get through them), all those listed have now been created, so I'm marking this as done. — BadCatMan (talk) 11:32, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

Response: I can probably do bushi, but I may stumble at any 1st-edition-era crunch. But a shogun's not a class in D&D, it's only a Japanese title for a military dictator: Wikipedia:shogun. — BadCatMan (talk) 11:00, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

I knew it was in the real world, but one never knows with D&D. :) ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:55, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

Do you think I should just make shogun an external link? ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:57, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

I think that might be for the best; it doesn't seem to have a different meaning like pasha. (The setting material is full of Gratuitous Japanese with not a lot of definition, though at least shogun is one of the more familiar ones.) Ideally, a fully developed Wa and Kozakura would eventually see a proper shogun page detailing the history and holders of the position, but there's no plans for that here. Could we have a redirect go to Wikipedia?

Sadly, redirects to external links don't work; I've tried that before. I thought of a different plan, however. Let's say we start a Wa-an dictionary page. We can make redirects from shogun and daimyo and ronin and whatever else to appropriate short definitions there. I can do that tonight, if you think that works. It's what I do with words like "vizar" and such in Alzhedo. ~ Lhynard (talk) 01:16, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the terms appear in both Wa and Kozakura, each with technically different (though 65% related) languages. We'd need to repeat it for a Kozakuran dictionary, or else create a combined Wa-an & Kozakuran dictionary page. Other options I see are to use the bot to turn the existing links into Wikipedia links, or make a bunch of stubs for the titles. — BadCatMan (talk) 01:24, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

Sure, we could do a bot change, but in this case, the external links feel insufficient for me. The wikipedia pages say such things as "is a Japanese word for..." or "was a foo in Feudal Japan." I'd rather not link to a Japan-focused page for something that is supposed to be Kara-Tur-focused.

Also, if we use a bot, we will have to continually make such links, and everyone will have to know to, and if we ever change our mind, we need to use a bot to change it back.

What about this: would a Kara-Turran terms (is that the demonym?) page suffice? It would be like a dictionary page, but it would not be limited to a particular language. Each entry could note where the term applies, (like I do for different dialects in the dictionary articles I've written.) So we could have an entry for "dang-ki" that notes it's a Shou Lung word for shugenja and an entry for "shogun" that notes that the term is used in Wa and Kozakura and related lands.

Another alternative to articles that are nothing more than definitions that I favor is to simply make a redirect to the category page. That is shogun would like to Category:Shoguns, which would give a simple definition at the top. See, for example, Serpentfolk.

I agree, I'm not a fan of direct Wikipedia links. I'm not sure I like a terminology page either – it wouldn't give a unique Kara-Turan (I don't think there's a canon demonym) flavour like a Faerunian terminology page would, only a copied Japanese flavour. Also, it would be a fair bit of effort for a region that won't see serious development for years.

I think the simplest approach is to invoke 3-sentence rule and simply make redirects to relevant pages: shogun to a disambiguation page linking to Wa and Kozakura; dang-ki to shugenja, as you did; oyabun (a yakuza boss) to yakuza, and so on. — BadCatMan (talk) 10:10, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

I had been thinking I ought to make it, because "bushi" must be becoming a wanted page and I'd made a few NPCs with it. And I had nothing else to do last night. :) — BadCatMan (talk) 01:07, July 5, 2016 (UTC)

Prismatic ice — done!

Type: More information

Action: What is prismatic ice?

Reason: It is one of the things the Calimemnon Crystal was thought to be made of, and I have no idea what it is.

Response: I think this is not FR spesific but more of a question answered by a combination of Physics, Chemistry, Optics and/or Crystallography and I will provide a lot of useful links in a clumsy effort to make a very long story quite short, as I have understood it:

Ice, of a specific element (water in our example), is a combination of (water) molecules frozen into solid state, stack together. That stacking of the molecules creates ice crystals. These crystals can have variable geometric shapes with different symmetries, number of faces, properties, etc. These geometric shapes can be octahedrons, dodecahedrons, etc (like the D20 dices) or even irregular forms. Some of these polyhedrons can be considered prisms, meaning polyhedrons that refract light. So an ice can have "link" different types of portions in its body, portions of polyhedrons logically grouped by us, due to being of similar physical attributes, called facets. Furthermore, if you google "prismatic" for images, it is as giving the meaning "exhibiting bright spectral colours". To me, you could call an ice "prismatic" when a portion of it or the portion that is nearest to the surface, etc, refracts, disperses, reflects, polarizes or reflects light. The simplest example with image I found is this.—Jandor (talk) 00:08, September 18, 2015 (UTC)

Response: I know of other magical ices, I can't find another source for prismatic ice. Given the tone in Empires of the Shining Sea, I suspect this is meant to be an entirely new and unknown material, perhaps related to the prismatic ray, sphere, spray, and wall spells, or maybe to prismatic dragons and prismatic golems. Those golems come from Elysium, which seems a good place to find the ice. Otherwise, a permanent prismatic spell? Anyway, I suspect the only solution is a rather speculative article based on the EoSS mention. — BadCatMan (talk) 12:32, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

Resolution: I created a prismatic ice article. It's a bit circular, based only on the Empires of the Shining Sea' mention and expressing it as quite mysterious, but it does the job. I also included our speculation as background. — BadCatMan (talk) 01:06, March 15, 2017 (UTC)

Response: I can get this one started. Sounds fun. :) —Moviesign (talk)

Resolution: Article significantly expanded with info from the three sources listed above. The article could benefit from a once-over by BadCat because my sentence structure is sometimes a bit much. —Moviesign (talk)

Reason: A strange and intriguing character/race of the Realms. I'll have some lore to add eventually as part of my Advanced Dungeons & Dragons comics work (I've started a bit with the kittenlord), but some background to use as a basis would be helpful. Every time I see the Catlord / catlords in the Realms, they're a subject of mystery, so I'm not sure where to go with it. Are they a race, is it a person?

Sources: There's a Catlord NPC in the Epic Level Handbook, but that's for the Greyhawk setting, which may be why the Catlord is so obscure. A race of "cat lords" appear in the short story "A Virtue by Reflection" in Realms of Valor. I suspect there's some 2e lore to this I'm not familiar with.

Reason: This is the most-requested demon article on the wiki by number of links, and I'm particularly interested in it, since it comes up a lot in the adventures of Vajra Valmeyjar and friends. I do not have access to any of the sources that describe it nor to the Advanced Dungeons & Dragons comics.

Response: It's ruled by Leirans, it's meant to be enigmatic. :) According to the Index, there's almost nothing concrete prior to 3rd edition, only a few obscure references. There doesn't seem to be anything in The Shining South (1993) and The Jungles of Chult, the two most likely sources in 2e. You really want the 3e sourcebook Serpent Kingdoms, which I believe first introduced and detailed the realm. — BadCatMan (talk) 06:47, May 14, 2015 (UTC)

Response: I am not sure that we need to have a draconic hobgoblin article, simply because "draconic" is an inherited template that can be applied to any living corporeal creature. "Draconic" simply means that the creature has some amount of dragon blood less than half. The template is described in Draconomicon: The Book of Dragons. I can write up that article, if you'd like. ~ Lhynard (talk) 11:18, July 6, 2015 (UTC)

Response: There is some unsourced info on the Nubari at the Malatra and Malatran Plateau pages. It seems to be a Living Jungle or Spelljamming campaign setting thing, as discussed here. So, they're in the Realms but hard to confirm or research. — BadCatMan (talk) 12:47, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

That helped a lot; thanks! I found the sources I need in great detail. I'll just need to make all the citation templates. ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:12, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Resolution: Information located thanks to the tips I was given! ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:12, August 26, 2015 (UTC)

Resolution: Storm dragon is apparently another name for blue dragon, according to Draconomican: Chromatic Dragons. Redirect created. (I did this a while ago, but forgot storm dragon was a requested page.) Thanks, Daranios! —Coswig (talk) 19:46, November 2, 2015 (UTC)

Action: I want to know more about this game or where I can find information about it to read.

Reason: I am interested in Faerûnian games in general.

Information: Giantcraft makes reference to it p. 9 as if it's an already established Realms thing.

Response: I can't find anything on it in Candlekeep's Forgotten Realms Index. I suspect it was created for the sourcebook. There's more details on it and other games on pages 35 and 120. I suspect it refers to the real, obscure game of Oh-Wah-Ree. — BadCatMan (talk) 03:53, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Information: Giantcraft says a few more words about the game itself on page 120, and an example on p. 35 says that it is a game played in moves. Also, the image on p. 8 presumably shows a game of wah-ree. Daranios (talk) 08:46, October 13, 2015 (UTC)

Hmm. If it's supposed to be oware, which is essentially mancala, why the heck is it played on what looks to be a nine-men's-morris board? :) ~ Lhynard (talk) 01:47, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

Reason: The bind spell is a favourite of Kilili in the ADD comics. It puts magical bands or ropes around legs, arms, neck, and mouth, and seems to be like an arcane hold person. It seems to be a 1e/2e-era spell, but it didn't make it to 3e. I will add comics uses and images, but I need a base article to start from. Thanks!

Response: Thank you so much... Wait, what? But that's just animate rope! The 3.5 version is here. They seem very similar. Are you okay with me merging these? — BadCatMan (talk) 00:54, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

Sure. Doesn't look like it will take long, hehe. —Moviesign (talk) 01:24, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

I made those (Hm-boye and Reptillia Half-elven, as well as a bit at Torg mac Cei), after a deep scour for lore. I found some samples in an old Dragon magazine. I forget which, but will try to find it again. Unfortunately, I don't recall very many Forgotten Realms–related cards in that sample; those might have been the only ones. I'm pretty sure I made Reptillia just for the sake of doing all the Realms ones (that and the goofy name). I'm talking about individual cards, of course, I don't know much about the ranges or games themselves. — BadCatMan (talk) 01:59, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

I gave it a start. 1,305 cards to go… Thank Gond for Notepad++. --Ir'revrykal (talk) 17:13, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, the list of cards is complete (some link work notwithstanding). I'm sure a lot could be written about the distribution of cards in the various series, but I'll leave that for future authors to tackle. --Ir'revrykal (talk) 14:22, March 20, 2016 (UTC)

Reason: It is only #206 on the wanted articles list, but I'd like to know exactly what constitutes an ophidian. It doesn't seem to be one particular race or species, but it does seem to be a group of sentient creatures, or at least trainable pets. I'm hoping this will be an easy and fun task for the monster mavens among us.

Response: I can take this one; I know I've seen more about them in other sources. ~ Lhynard (talk) 00:11, March 13, 2016 (UTC)

Resolution: Ok, I wrote a thorough article from the sources I have access to. I don't have anything from MMII1e, and I need page numbers for the 2e source, and it could probably use a copy-edit, because it got really long. ~ Lhynard (talk) 01:02, March 27, 2016 (UTC)

Response: I think the area was only developed in the novels, and it hasn't received much attention since. Some old sources are listed here (mostly Dragon articles and others based on the novels). The character of Avner also appeared in Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad, which I recall had a few mentions of Hartsvale. So, I imagine it's a novels-only region. I'll see what I can add later. — BadCatMan (talk) 08:47, March 25, 2016 (UTC)

Reason: Ioun stones are a commonplace artifact in many FR works, and it would be great to have a comprehensive article, as well as a list of all the different canonical varieties.

Information: Netheril: Empire of Magic has a bunch of information. This blog post has a lot of valuable information pointing to other sources (if you filter out the Pathfinder entries). Dragon #193 has a bunch of alternate creation stories and decent Appendix info.

Addendum: I'm wrapping this up with lore from Netheril: Empire of Magic. — BadCatMan (talk) 12:53, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

Resolution: Lore from Netheril: Empire of Magic and several other sources added, with lists of standard and unique varieties and it should be quite comprehensive. — BadCatMan (talk) 13:37, May 21, 2016 (UTC)

Response: East Zakhara corresponds to the region of the Cities of the Ancients (=region of Ruined Kingdoms), so in contrast to the others that article exists and would need to be adapted. The regions' delineation was based on a discussion, not source material. Will these articles be an exception to the rule that we reference everything? Daranios (talk) 19:34, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

Response:

I gave East Zakhara a try, though one could think about further expansion. Opinions? Can anyone do maps like for the regions of Faerûn or something else appropriate?

If there are no objections against the way East Zakhara was handled, I also plan to do North, Northwest and Southeast Zakhara. Daranios (talk) 19:08, April 7, 2016 (UTC)

I think it looks good, but I know very little about Zakhara. I trust you to do a good job. Thanks! ~ Lhynard (talk) 19:21, April 7, 2016 (UTC)

Response: Ao knows why they presented it that way, but I suspect they abbreviated the gem list and descriptions to save space in the very crowded FRCS. Lumping all the corundum gems (except jacinth and ruby, which are one grade higher) together means they didn't have to explain the Shou Lung varieties, but not everybody knows that sapphire is corundum, so they listed it separately. Or, it could have been an error by the editor. Regardless, there is no gemstone called corundum in any of my canon sources. Dragon magazine 81 uses it in a list of spell components, but also mentions ruby and white sapphire in the same list (in real life, pure corundum is colorless, so white sapphire would be an appropriate name, but why list it separately?). Corundum does not appear as a stand-alone gemstone in either the FRA or Volo's Guide to All Things Magical or Ed Greenwood's original Gems Galore article. I believe it was listed as a family of gems in the FRCS to save space, but only resulted in confusion. —Moviesign (talk) 01:00, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

Resolution: I made a disambig. page. Feel free to expand or modify it, both. Thanks for the feedback. ~ Lhynard (talk) 14:17, November 8, 2016 (UTC)

Good to have the page! I have added a "related" mineral, and linked the black variety, which has its own article. Daranios (talk) 21:34, November 9, 2016 (UTC)