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Also, is being argumentative a Thinking trait? If there was one thing I got under people's skin with, it is that I argue about EVERYTHING, and I do. I don't play Devil's Advocate -- I just disagree a lot. People constantly tell me that I could "argue with a brick wall." I mean, I think I'm a Feeling type, but don't Feeling types dislike disharmony and don't they look for consensus? Man, someone please help me out! :O

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Motivation: Dark Worker
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
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- While what I just said may indicate Fi, I do relate a lot to Fe because I'm always worried about hurting peoples feelings (as I am a people-oriented person) and the only time that I do something that might hurt someone's feelings is when someone has an unethical opinion of some sort that disregards someone or some people in some way and I argue why the opinion/view is faulty to get them to realize that what they are thinking is unprincipled (again, it's hard to put into words) and so they don't hurt someone or some people if they put whatever that opinion is into practice, and if I do hurt their feelings, I feel bad (as I do any other time I hurt someone's feelings). It's almost as if Fe and Fi are working together.

Fi cares about people's feelings too. (That's Feeling in general that does!) The difference is the standard of consideration. Fe cares by simply, directly referencing the other person's expressed feelings or a group consensus. Fi cares by referencing a universal sense of feeling that is internalized, and then from that, realizing the other person's likely state in a given situation. Both then will reach out and care.

And this is where the cognitive process tests will often get hung up, since they are based on definitions of Fe=caring about others; Fi=being in touch with your own feelings. Both of which have a grain of truth, but miss the full detail of what causes that. Hence, you could identify with both definitions, and come out high in both Fi and Fe. These tests do not measure J/P, which is the real definer of the preferred judgment attitude according to the original MBTI setup.

Fi cares about people's feelings too. (That's Feeling in general that does!) The difference is the standard of consideration. Fe cares by simply, directly referencing the other person's expressed feelings or a group consensus. Fi cares by referencing a universal sense of feeling that is internalized, and then from that, realizing the other person's likely state in a given situation. Both then will reach out and care.

And this is where the cognitive process tests will often get hung up, since they are based on definitions of Fe=caring about others; Fi=being in touch with your own feelings. Both of which have a grain of truth, but miss the full detail of what causes that. Hence, you could identify with both definitions, and come out high in both Fi and Fe. These tests do not measure J/P, which is the real definer of the preferred judgment attitude according to the original MBTI setup.

Alright, so I'm an Fi user. I figured that to be true already. But I don't know whether I'm P or J. I created a very new thread called 'Function Phenomenon' with five different function test results.

"Forgiveness means letting go of the past." ~ Gerald Jampolsky"I am justice!" ~ Light Yagami, Death Note"The choices people make tell you a lot about a person, but the reasons [...] tell you even more." ~ Albus Dumbledore (paraphrased)

"Forgiveness means letting go of the past." ~ Gerald Jampolsky"I am justice!" ~ Light Yagami, Death Note"The choices people make tell you a lot about a person, but the reasons [...] tell you even more." ~ Albus Dumbledore (paraphrased)