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Most top Islamic State jihadis were once held by U.S.

But “incarceration was a school for jihad, and they emerged tougher, better connected and more dedicated” — so why were there no effort made during their incarceration to challenge their jihadist beliefs? Because to have done that would have been “Islamophobic.” And why were they released at all, since any fool would have known that they would return to the jihad?

The Obama administration’s Iraq policy seems premised on the idea that the terrorist Islamic State is so toxic that it will be self-limiting and ultimately self-defeating. But that’s not the view of U.S. intelligence officials.

In a briefing for journalists Thursday, a panel of five U.S. intelligence officials summed up their assessment of an organization that has shown a remarkable durability because it is “patient,” “well-organized,” “opportunistic” and “flexible.” Under the leadership of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the group has rebounded from about 1,500 fighters in 2010 to more than 10,000 today — becoming a global jihadist organization that communicates in many languages.

“We don’t assess this as something that will collapse on its own,” said one of the officials, who commented based on an agreement that their remarks would not be attributed. “But with pressure and alternatives [that might draw away its Sunni supporters], it could collapse over time.” The intelligence experts cautioned that counterterrorist tools, such as drone strikes and other air attacks, wouldn’t be sufficient “to defeat it rather than just ratchet it back.”

The officials expressed skepticism that Baghdadi could be deterred from striking the United States by the threat of pulverizing attacks. “We assess that the group sees conflict with the U.S. as inevitable,” said one official. Although the group is preoccupied with its battles in Iraq and Syria, another official noted a chilling Internet statement several months ago: “America, we have not turned our gaze away from you.”

The briefing was a rare example of intelligence officials sharing information about a problem that policymakers are still debating. The group skirted direct policy questions but not their context. Asked, for example, whether the Islamic State can be contained if its bases in Syria aren’t bombed, one official said that such cross-border havens have been “a perennial challenge” in fighting insurgencies since 1945.

The portrait of Baghdadi and his Islamic State was chilling. Under its original name, al-Qaeda in Iraq, the group ferociously battled U.S. forces. Most of its leading fighters were imprisoned by U.S. occupation troops, but incarceration was a school for jihad, and they emerged tougher, better connected and more dedicated….

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Recently I read that the Talmud says that those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind.
I will never forget that now, after watching the recent decades unfold.

How many people have suffered, are suffering, and will suffer in the near future in part because the US was ‘humane’?

I wrote an email to the Whitehouse not long after 9/11 saying jihadis were too dangerous to ever be released, but sort of scared myself. Who puts the word “kill” in an email to White House several times? I thought about toning it down but didn’t.

I would not say I feel vindicated as much as concerned I was right. I didn’t want to be right.

Beagle. Really appreciate your well-informed comments. Us blinkered, complacent Brits are in the midst of jihasist fomentation. Yes, you could apportion blame to the US for fine tuning the aims and objectives of these monsters. Nothing can be done about that now except keep those that remain incarcerated. It also highlights the fact that it is foreign muslim mercenaries who are at the heart of this butchery, terror and mayhem being inflicted on the ordinary citizens in this region.

Problem is they know our society is degenerate. It will not kill people who commit mass atrocities because we are culturally dominated by women who mostly believe all men are barbarians equally. IS knows that the men of the West are infantile sissies without honour and self-respect, who will not kill when they have to. That and not the cult of martyrdom – which only motivates a small fraction of jihadis – is a guarantee the IS will grow.

I don’t consider the West to be ‘degenerate’. Wilfully blind, yes, in many ways, and too much ruled by a load of PC/MC nonsense, and in love with appeasement.

It was much the same in the Thirties. Very few wanted to believe in the real threat Nazism posed, so we had the yellow bellied appeasers like Chamberlain et al, and the Nazi lovers like Beaverbrook and Lloyd George. When Nazism became too bellicose to ignore, we had a real leader, Winston Churchill, and we fought them, and won.

This time around, I believe it will be the **people**, not the politicians, who will fight and win.

” … we are culturally dominated by women who mostly believe all men are barbarians equally”

The opinion of a bunch of murdering savages, pedophiles, rapists and barbarians is irrelevant to any rational individual, or society. As if the Muslim monsters are in any position to judge anyone.

That said, I must disagree with Mirren. The West has become degenerate. We have: Legalized abortion. When babies are not killed by their own mothers right up to the very minute of their births-and after-the majority of those births take place out of wedlock. Lesbians and homosexuals ‘marry’, and push their depraved agenda everywhere, largely w/o resistance. The Judeo-Christian foundation of our beloved country is denied and reviled, by Americans. The filth in our public schools is literally indescribable. Pornography and perversion of every kind is rampant.

And this is a short list.

If the foregoing does not constitute depravity, nothing does.

However: Western society still possesses adherents to the aforementioned Judeo-Christian values which made it great. We recede from depravity to the extent that we return to those values.

“… we are culturally dominated by women who mostly believe all men are barbarians equally.”

Now, below, having been challenged by Mirren 10, you grandly conceded that ‘not all’ modern western women are as you claim them to be, but…what precisely does that weaselword “mostly” cover? 90? 80? 70? 60 percent? On the basis of what *evidence*, exactly, do you base this claim? And..*every* western country? Again, what is the *evidence* for this sweeping claim that lumps together all western countries?

Further:
” IS knows that the men of the West are infantile sissies without honour and self-respect, who will not kill when they have to..”.

Again: what *precisely* is your *evidence* for this sweeping claim? And what percentage, precisely, are “Infantile sissies without honour and self-respect”??? Because you didn’t qualify this statement *at all*, so presumably you regard *100 percent* of all men in all modern western countries as “infantile sissies”?? Which I do think is a gross slander. How do you **know**? What is the *precise* basis for your claim? – links, with *evidence*, please. You do realize that pretty well every young man currently serving in the standing armies of the West…who are handicapped by stupid rules of engagement, and perform magnificently even so…is a refutation of your sweeping dismissal, don’t you? That if you mean to dismiss *every* man in the West, then you must include Mr Spencer and Col Allen West as sissies, too; and all the formidable Vietnam combat veterans in the USA and in Australia, many of whom are still quite able-bodied and very much alive and kicking within our societies, and I am sure will rise to the occasion if and when required.

Incidentally, which country are you from, and how old are you? And what is *your* personal experience of armed combat?

Dumble: Solo is right. The reference is to the [demonic] so-called ‘women’s movement’; what Rush refers to as the ‘chickification’ of the society.

Everything inherently male has been villainized-territorialism, righteous war, and the inherent, God-given, instinct to protect women and children.

Instead we have open borders, rules of engagement which are designed to aid and comfort the enemy instead of getting the job done; the really sick glorification of all things unnatural (‘gay marriage’) and the penultimate idiocy of ‘women in combat’.

Sacred Scripture clearly defines the signs and symptoms of societal depravity. ‘You shall be led by the effeminate’. The only generals n our heroic Armed Forces? They are Obama yes-men; he’s purged all else.

Solo is right, I repeat. Now, Allen West and the examples you cite? They are against the flow! And of course the enemy knows this.

As unlawful enemy combatants, these Muslim thugs were not entitled to any Geneva protections. Therefore, they should have been executed. Officials from both the Bush and Obama administrationsresponsible for their release should be prosecuted for dereliction of duty, homicide by depraved indifference, and treason.

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