Phatscotty wrote:I showed you some clear cut examples of them playing the race card, and your response is "so much for not posting videos"?

What do we call this new kind of dodge tactic.

Or is the truth that Woodruff has your password?

No, Woodruff does not have my password, but you once again show your (lack of) reading comprehension and (lack of) memory. You asked me if I had heard anyone say if they voted for Obama because he was black. And I said 1 time I did, back in 2008. Which has NOTHING to do with those videos. That is what makes your videos null and void. But no, you didn't bother to read all of my post, making yourself into a bigger fool.

Phatscotty wrote:I showed you some clear cut examples of them playing the race card, and your response is "so much for not posting videos"?

What do we call this new kind of dodge tactic.

Or is the truth that Woodruff has your password?

No, Woodruff does not have my password, but you once again show your (lack of) reading comprehension and (lack of) memory. You asked me if I had heard anyone say if they voted for Obama because he was black. And I said 1 time I did, back in 2008. Which has NOTHING to do with those videos. That is what makes your videos null and void. But no, you didn't bother to read all of my post, making yourself into a bigger fool.

You are right about one thing. Those videos had nothing to do with the question I originally asked you. You are wrong in thinking that those videos were supposed to have something to do with what I originally asked you. In fact, I specifically stated that I will not be posting 500 youtube videos concerning the question I originally asked you. So really your insistence that those videos were supposed to have something to do with the original question is in your imagination, I dare to wonder about your reading comprehension and memory.

Those videos had to do with showing you what a race card being played looks like. I showed you those videos because you accused me of playing the race card, which showed me that you do not know what playing the race card looks like or even means. I suspect you think that anytime someone dares to mention the issue of race means they are playing the race card. Tis folly

I think it's pretty clear who is not reading people's post, but by all means continue calling me names over something you are just flat out wrong about. It does not make you look foolish.

CreepersWiener wrote:Well, it is sad to say. No matter what is debated and rehashed, these debates are only meant to convince Republicans to vote for their Mormon Messiah: Mitt Romney. As for the rest of us intelligent, progressive individuals...Obama is it...end of story.

Things are so bad now that the conservative right is so frightened of the future that they are willing to vote for anybody that is white and starch collared! They want to blame their piss poor futures on Obama when they should look back on the Bush Republicans and realize that this was all manifested by that administration!

Republican LOSERS! You screwed up your own party, so you want to push all the blame of the past administration off on Obama!

Fear mongering is all you know! The truth will prevail!

OBAMA 2012!

I'm sorry you are taking Obama's loss tonight so hard. Making an attack thread about how everyone is afraid, and then blaming the fearmongering on Republicans.....that has been the entire Democrat platform for the last 4 years. Didn't work so well in 2010. You could try talking about Obama policies (don't worry, I won't call you a racist )

My advice: If you are going to have an attitude like that, you might want to consider more practice dealing with preparing for more losses

btw, many agree both parties were fucked up. In case you have been living under a rock or are just willfully ignorant, one party has cleaned their own house and got rid of all those Bush Republicans and is already half way through reconstruction. The other party has not changed a single thing, where they are even trying to recycle their losers like Allen Grayson and Teryl Clark.

to all those people: If you think you actually know enough to say who the "good guy" is in the presidential race, YOU are the truly wrong. You can't see the future. And, if your opinion involves anything other than a factual base, YOU are wrong as well, especially to anyone who has not actually been affected personally by any action done by either of these people. PLEASE do not act like you know "enough".

Phatscotty wrote:I showed you some clear cut examples of them playing the race card, and your response is "so much for not posting videos"?

What do we call this new kind of dodge tactic.

Or is the truth that Woodruff has your password?

No, Woodruff does not have my password, but you once again show your (lack of) reading comprehension and (lack of) memory. You asked me if I had heard anyone say if they voted for Obama because he was black. And I said 1 time I did, back in 2008. Which has NOTHING to do with those videos. That is what makes your videos null and void. But no, you didn't bother to read all of my post, making yourself into a bigger fool.

You are right about one thing. Those videos had nothing to do with the question I originally asked you. You are wrong in thinking that those videos were supposed to have something to do with what I originally asked you. In fact, I specifically stated that I will not be posting 500 youtube videos concerning the question I originally asked you. So really your insistence that those videos were supposed to have something to do with the original question is in your imagination, I dare to wonder about your reading comprehension and memory.

Those videos had to do with showing you what a race card being played looks like. I showed you those videos because you accused me of playing the race card, which showed me that you do not know what playing the race card looks like or even means. I suspect you think that anytime someone dares to mention the issue of race means they are playing the race card. Tis folly

I think it's pretty clear who is not reading people's post, but by all means continue calling me names over something you are just flat out wrong about. It does not make you look foolish.

You post videos of the VP amd President. And the one with Obama doesn't work on here, and the Biden one said "Gonna put ya'll back in chains."

But yeah, you did bring up the race card out of the blue when you asked me the original questions. And then you bring up a couple of youtube clips, with one not working on CC and the other you seem to either be mishearing it, or jumping to conclussions. So yeah, you did bring up the race card originally. Don't blame me for what you did.

And for the life of me, I can't figure out WHY you want me to defend someone whom I have no wish to see back in office. Feels like I'm cheering for BYU or BSU right now. Makes me feel unclean.

Phatscotty wrote:You have never heard anyone say they are voting for Obama "because he is black"? A little further, do you suspect that millions of people voted for Obama "because he is black"?

Do YOU suspect that, Phatscotty? Because I've got to tell you...anyone who believes that MILLIONS of people voted for Obama because he is black is an utter moron.

I don't find the concept all that unbelievable, I at least don't find it ridiculous. If you don't think Obama's race attracted anyone to his campaign you are mistaken. This is where you, Woodruff, come back with some data or at least offer an explanation to support that this idea is moronic. Scotty at least attempted to back up his claim. I'm thinking that while its possible that millions may have voted for Obama because he was black, there may be millions who did not vote for him for the same reason. The question is which group is larger.

Phatscotty wrote:Kinda looks like you are lying about the registered Republican bit, in order to make your post more damaging to mine.

Missed this, but no I am not lying about being a registered Republican. Been registered as one since 6 days after I turned 18 (posted it on here right after, actually). However, I have become, too put it bluntly, fed up with the "Republicans" as a whole. They say one thing, and then screw the people over. Same goes for Democrats. Which is why I'll be re-registering as an Independent when I get back home. Don't believe me, just look up my older posts from a few years back or ask any of the other posters that have been here for years.

I personally, don't see how anyone could vote for Democrats. Do you like money? 99.9% of you will say yes. Then why would you vote for someone who wants to raise taxes and take EVEN MORE money from you when they already take so much to begin with?

I support people who work to EARN money and things to be actually bought and paid for...not handed out to lazy losers who sit at home all day and collect a check from Obama that comes out of my pocket.

Scotty thinks America has been in decline since Woodrow Wilson a century ago:

Phatscotty wrote:I know, I have failed to find solid evidence of that actual statement. However, if you look at progressive ideals and Communists ideals, they are 2 peas in a pod, and the statement is based on that. The substance of the ideals is far more important than an official name change.

I should rephrase: Communists and Progressives share the same ideology. As related to BVP, it's easy to call it silly that Communists are teaching in our schools. But everyone knows the Progressives and the Liberals DOMINATE academia, especially at the union level.

Been going on since Woodrow Wilson started shipping in European Professors, and it only took a generation to get to the great depression.