Couple observations:1. Hell must have been frozen over - Mendocino, SFR homes with driveways proposed by the TIC. I thought TIC is only building motor court homes nowadays.2. Mendocino is not FCB friendly as it got too many syllables. Saratoga to a less degree.3. TIC keeps pushing the limit for setbacks - 3 ft side setback and 8 ft rear setback for true SFRs? If this trend keeps going, soon we will be speaking in inches.4. Apparently there is a water crisis in the Grove. Some senior citizen is pissed that more new homes are getting built and it will cause even more water shortage. Page 77 and 78 of the PDF file.

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"Should any Person come into contact with such fruit, soil or groundwater, such Person is advised to wash thoroughly with soap and water and seek immediate medical attention"-Augusta Disclosure, Tustin Legacy

"You'll probably be able to buy a 4BR detached home in Quail Hill for $150,000."-IndieDev

Half of the Saratoga homes will have to deal with the road noise (the trucks heading out to the dump mainly) coming from Sand Canyon or Portola Parkway. I'm guessing the price point will be the high $600s to the mid $700s.

Half of the Saratoga homes will have to deal with the road noise (the trucks heading out to the dump mainly) coming from Sand Canyon or Portola Parkway. I'm guessing the price point will be the high $600s to the mid $700s.

Saratoga looks like motor court homes about the size of San Mateo. I'd say slightly higher prices than San Mateo, but no where near high 6, mid 7.

"You are just a whining loser here hoping that Irvine house price can be 50% off so that you can afford a house here." - NonFCB"690k... 20% down 4.25 int rate .36 dti and you need a salary of $ 90,500" - VillagePeople"People are paying for something else, and labeling it "good schools". - PatStar

Of course it's legal (after TIC gets the variance exception from their buddies at the city).

I don't consider a home with an 8 foot back yard a SFH, that's a condo straight up. The 3 foot sideyard is equally disturbing. Some fatter individuals might have to walk sideways to get into the 8 foot backyard.

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"You are just a whining loser here hoping that Irvine house price can be 50% off so that you can afford a house here." - NonFCB"690k... 20% down 4.25 int rate .36 dti and you need a salary of $ 90,500" - VillagePeople"People are paying for something else, and labeling it "good schools". - PatStar

It is interesting to read the documentation regarding the sideyard and backyard variances. They are limiting TIC on the number of homes with the variance to those already shown on the master plan. In addition, Irvine requested restrictions within the CC&Rs to prevent future homeowners from adding additions to their home (backyard or sideyard) that would encroach on the10'/5' setback standard. In other words, owners would not be allowed to extend the whole house to the variance setback of 8'/3'.

So the smaller sideyard will help them maybe squeeze in another house per street? Might as well make these paired homes.

The smaller backyard won't let them add more homes based on the street configuration... maybe it will give them longer driveways? Or maybe they weren't meant to have sidewalks and now this will allow it?

Of course it's legal (after TIC gets the variance exception from their buddies at the city).

I don't consider a home with an 8 foot back yard a SFH, that's a condo straight up. The 3 foot sideyard is equally disturbing. Some fatter individuals might have to walk sideways to get into the 8 foot backyard.

This might show up on the police blotter:

Stonegate: Fattie got stuck between side of his house and his neighbors while taking out trash. Jaws of Life unsuccessful. Request for breaking through the fence still HOA pending. Fattie resorting to eating trash till situation improves.