Edit: The thread that the above link points to doesn't exist anymore.
Short version of the story:
Using the name "DebianDog" (by me) caused so much trouble in general (and got me personally in such a stressful situation), that I finally gave up developing any further using that name.
Edit 2017-05-08: Development is discontinued, but re-opened for replies, why not
I will not continue to maintain this version anymore.

Other changes:
- Only 2 boot methods now: 'Porteus style boot' and 'Live Boot 3' (standard Debian Live)
- Extended by adding more software/applications, e.g. python (required by e.g. youtube-get2, youtube-dl), ffmpeg (required by weX (screencast app by William (mcewanw), ffconvert and more).
- The main 01-filesystem.squashfs is compressed GZIP (increases the size with more than 50MB compared to XZ compression)
(the system boots and runs faster with GZIP compression)
- Suspend should work now.
- Added 'Quick-Remaster', new remaster script, concept by rufwoof (very fast!)
(Note: works only when booted with 'Porteus style boot').
A brief description here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=925924#925924
- Added 'DebianDog' category to menu, containing most of the specific DebianDog system programs. (idea from rufwoof)
- Option to switch to (simple) JWM (Menu > System > Start Jwm)
- Full LZ4 boot and compression support (modified initrd to use LZ4 and squashfs-tools version 4.3-3 from Sid installed)

Although some firmware is included, you might need more specific for your hardware e.g. wireless, download this module:
61-firmware-jessie-2016-10-16.squashfs
Load with Sfs-Load or (better) place in the 'live' folder (in case frugal install) and reboot.

Beautiful morning, sun blaring, tell myself I am going outside, but first check the computer, and here is a new DebianDog - Jesse....in XFCE no less!!! So, the sun and outside will have to wait, lol.

Thank you so much, Fred! For myself, your creations are the absolute best.

I have only one request, possibly for future builds-----is there any way you can include the awesome "redhift" into DebianDog builds? I've been using it for a long time, and I finally got around to installing it in the older DebianDg64 of yours that still rules one of my machines. For an old man, with increasingly sensitive eyes, redshift is an incredible & very relieving thing. When I installed it (in the old DebianDog64), it works, but I had to jump through a lot of hoops and I still don't have a proper tint2rc taskbar icon because tint2 just doesn't want to play nice when adding .svg icons, which redshift has, 3 of them. I have to toggle between three wbar icons, and it is a best of a mess, lol....but, hey, it works.

Thanks again for this new DebianDog w/ XFCE!!! Will post later today with feedback and a DE pic ....and I will----in my noob way----try to do anything to help the DebinaDogs stay alive & kicking.

Only things I did was immediately upgrade FF-ESR from your 24.8.1 to 26.0 (because I can't live w/o "https everywhere" add-on from EFF Foundation---sort of critical nowadays). Also installed 'ARandR' from Synaptic, to get my dual monitors working, also added the dual monitor script for startup purposes. Haha, I noticed one small thing that sure makes life a lot easier compared to old DD64 & XenialDog---you added a "Add/Remove User from Groups" to the menu. Hoooorrah Also, I added ufw via 'GUFW' from Synaptic. You might want to check, but GUFW does not show up anywhere in 'Menu" that I could find after installing ufw/gufw via Synaptic. But, for me, that's ok as I usually control UFW from terminal, and it shows there fine.

Lastly, have two questions, one about 'SFSdrop', the other 'PicDrop': I think I understand the desktop shortcut "SFSdrop"---it's for when I am in terminal doing SFS-stuff, I can just drag whatever I do over into SFSdrop, and voila', I've got an SFS made? Is that right?? Also, is the same principle at work for the "PicDrop" shortcut? You are browsing, or whatever, find a pic, just grab and drag it to the shortcut and it will be saved to your Pics folder?? I think perhaps you might want to put some sort of popup explanation box on the "PicDrop" shortcut, as when a person clicks it, wondering what it is, it currently does nothing. Also, the "screenshot", try it once on your system: when you click "execute", you get no feedback if it actually executed or not? I was hitting the "execute" button like mad, trying to understand why "screenshot" wasn't working, only to open "mtpaint' to take a screenshot, to see in my root/ home folder fifty thousand pics I had clicked taking with screenshot, and having no idea they were being taken...haha

Lastly, I cannot modify what's inside conky (in the '.conkyrc-live' and/or the '.conkyrc-port', otherwise, conky overall refuses to start, even from when I try to start in /etc/conky----figure I must be doing something wrong, but I've always did these conky mods before, even in the old DD64 & XenialDog, and they always worked & I never had a problem starting conky with the conkytoggle.sh).

Here's a desktop pic (hope it shows, always have trouble posting pics to murga forum...usually I have to link from my photo pic site). Overall, great job...again! The DebianDog creations, along with mickos/peebees/phils/james&kirks creations, are the gold standards here on Murga!

Haha, I noticed one small thing that sure makes life a lot easier compared to old DD64 & XenialDog---you added a "Add/Remove User from Groups" to the menu. Hoooorrah

That's only useful when logged in as regular user, aren't you logged in as root?

Quote:

I think I understand the desktop shortcut "SFSdrop"---it's for when I am in terminal doing SFS-stuff, I can just drag whatever I do over into SFSdrop, and voila', I've got an SFS made? Is that right?? Also, is the same principle at work for the "PicDrop" shortcut? You are browsing, or whatever, find a pic, just grab and drag it to the shortcut and it will be saved to your Pics folder?? I think perhaps you might want to put some sort of popup explanation box on the "PicDrop" shortcut, as when a person clicks it, wondering what it is, it currently does nothing

Well, no it's for to drag and drop an existing SFS onto it, for example I have gimp.squashfs, when I drop it on to the icon a small application window appears, from which I can run Gimp (see attached screenshot) A SFS (.squashfs) can be created with "apt2sfs"
Similar for picdrop, drop a .png or .jpg onto it and you can convert to other format and/or change size (see screenshot) and will be saved in same folder as original.
As for a popup when only click on it, I'll think about it, the app (by Terry (sunburnt)) is built with BACON, and I don't know anything about that.

Strange, when I edit ~/.conkyrc-port (when booted using porteus-boot) and save the file conky restarts and I see the changes.

About redshift, I think this one is nice https://sourceforge.net/projects/redshiftgui/
But it didn't work properly on DebianDog so modified a little to handle utf-8, the script to run is "start-redshiftgui"
Added this mod .deb to the 32 and 64 bit DD repositories, install with:

Code:

apt-get update
apt-get install redshiftgui

Run from Menu > Accessories > Redshift Gui or from terminal: start-redshiftgui
To make it start at login just create symlink in ~/Startup

Yes, it's nice, but not very much tested yet, for example:
The first script rufwoof made was only for when changes=EXIT/.... has been used from boot command-line.
From what I tested, my modified script works well also when used without the exit e.g. changes=/.... (but, again, not very much tested, time will tell)
Btw, should work also now when using savefile e.g. changes=/debdog2/live/changes.dat

Yes, it's nice, but not very much tested yet, for example:
The first script rufwoof made was only for when changes=EXIT/.... has been used from boot command-line.
From what I tested, my modified script works well also when used without the exit e.g. changes=/.... (but, again, not very much tested, time will tell)
Btw, should work also now when using savefile e.g. changes=/debdog2/live/changes.dat

Fred

I just installed it (frugal to hard drive).

Installed lxterminal and ran quick remaster. Seems to work great. Almost too easy.

The only thing I can see that I would change would be to also rename the save folder/file rather than give you a choice to delete it. That would make stepping back if there is a problem bullet proof.

That's only useful when logged in as regular user, aren't you logged in as root?

It was more along the lines for the family...especially the youngest, want to set one up without "root" ability, and she, when her friends are here.

Quote:

Strange, when I edit ~/.conkyrc-port (when booted using porteus-boot) and save the file conky restarts and I see the changes.

I've fiddled with ~/.conkyrc-port several times this afternoon, and if I just change one small thing in its file, it won't re-start no matter what I do. I even put a color change in, and, nope, it would not restart. I have to keep putting it back to the original as included in the Live frugal install. I'll keep trying here.....

Also, thank you for explaining about SFSdrop and PicDrop. I really like the PicDrop as you describe, can't think of the number of times I run across pics and what to change their format. This will make is so easy.

Quote:

About redshift, I think this one is nice https://sourceforge.net/projects/redshiftgui/
But it didn't work properly on DebianDog so modified a little to handle utf-8, the script to run is "start-redshiftgui"
Added this mod .deb to the 32 and 64 bit DD repositories, install with:

Code:

apt-get update
apt-get install redshiftgui

Run from Menu > Accessories > Redshift Gui or from terminal: start-redshiftgui
To make it start at login just create symlink in ~/Startup

Code:

ln -s /usr/local/bin/start-redshiftgui ~/Startup/start-redshiftgui

Thank you so much for the redshift work! Am downloading it right now and am going to play with it & get it working.

P.S. Wanted to followup about the UFW/GUFW install using Synaptic. Even though it exists in /usr/share/applications, I cannot get GUFW to appear in the "Menu" and/or just right-clicking & trying to make a desktop link (when clicking on the .desktop file). It's really weird, because the icon is clearly there, plus it is in the pixmaps folder, plus the GUFW command works from terminal and/or if you just click on it in the /usr/share/applications folder. Yet the darn thing won't appear in "Menu" (even when I create a Menu item for it, but honestly I thought Synaptic install would do that). Plus, I cannot create it on the desktop nor in the XFCE bottom taskbar.

Thanks again for everything! Will give you feedback on how I get on with the redshift stuff.

[edit: update]
Feedback redshift --- it works flawless, Fred! My eyes thank you very much!!!Last edited by belham2 on Sun 16 Oct 2016, 15:42; edited 2 times in total

P.S. Wanted to followup about the UFW/GUFW install using Synaptic. Even though it exists in /usr/share/applications, I cannot get GUFW to appear in the "Menu" and/or just right-clicking & trying to make a desktop link (when clicking on the .desktop file).

There's a line "OnlyShowIn=Unity;" in the .desktop file (strange?!, why only in Unity?)
Open with leafpad, remove that line and "Firewall Configuration" will show in the Menu.

P.S. Wanted to followup about the UFW/GUFW install using Synaptic. Even though it exists in /usr/share/applications, I cannot get GUFW to appear in the "Menu" and/or just right-clicking & trying to make a desktop link (when clicking on the .desktop file).

There's a line "OnlyShowIn=Unity;" in the .desktop file (strange?!, why only in Unity?)
Open with leafpad, remove that line and "Firewall Configuration" will show in the Menu.

Fred

Wow, I would never have caught that, as I sometimes think of Unity in the same vein as I think of the word "Linux". I know, I know, not good, but Unity is trying to silently take over the world, haha!

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