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Chim-Charred! (549)

Scorching Chimchar!

On their way to Pastoria, Ash & co. bump into Paul. After having a dispute in how Pokémon should be raised, Ash challenges Paul to a 3 on 3 match which he accepts. However, in this match Ash uses his Chimchar which previously belonged to Paul. Chimchar is understandably angry at Paul due to its prior treatment and intends to win...

From what I've heard, it appears as if this episode has no TR whatsoever. 0.o

Nah Gligar gets sweeped up onto TR's Ballon.
Next part is pretty much the epi. Spoiler:- DP081:

Paul has his Electabuzz in this episode, trying to capture a Drapion before Gligar interferes. Gliscor easily beats Gligar >_>. At the beginning of Ursaring Vs Chimchar. Ursaring beats the heck out of Chimchar, but Chimchar won't give up demanding to beat Paul. At the end he goes into a blazing Fury, which turns everything into a draw, Chimchar is still in a rage & pilup + Buizel cannot stop him, Ash tries top do a whole love fest by holding Chimchar, but he bites the heck out of him, Then The thing ends with Chimchar Hugging Ash, While Paul disgusted leaves.

Last edited by Forretress Fan; 29th May 2008 at 4:26 PM.

It's a Forretress, what else needs to be said to spark your curiosity?

After having just looked at the episode pictures of the latest RAW episode (Scorching Chimchar) I´m quite nervous now.
Paul, or better his Pokemon are much much too strong for Ash to compete with. No comment about Gligar (I´ve still been regretting till this day that he caught it...) and Chimchar only won by coincidence (his behavior was singular and it surely won´t be able to repeat it again later! Do not forget this!)So without Chimchar´s outrage we would have had to bear another defeat of Ash against Paul: 0-2 !!

You will probably object:
"He's the hero. Paul's the rival. The hero always beats the rival."
but
How in the world will the writers create a plausible plot in which Ash has a really fair(!) chance to defeat Paul (as everyone assumes that this will be the case later on)
With this obvious differences between Ash and Paul, I see no logical reason why Ash should win someday ! Moreover, any other plot deviating from this fact by, for example, suddenly giving Ash´s Pokemon supernatural power throughout the Shinnoh League in order to beat Paul would be shoody, cheap storywriting, which just can´t be true after all this wonderful D/P episodes so far.

Edit: And, yes, I also share the opinion that Chimchar should have envolved at last! Primarly, not because I´m keen on seeing evolutions but because I´m extremly afraid of having to experience another Johto League and because Ash HAS tominimize this worrying distance between Paul and him! Please, writers, have mercy!

After having just looked at the episode pictures of the latest RAW episode (Scorching Chimchar) I´m quite nervous now.
Paul, or better his Pokemon are much much too strong for Ash to compete with. No comment about Gligar (I´ve still been regretting till this day that he caught it...) and Chimchar only won by coincidence (his behavior was singular and it surely won´t be able to repeat it again later! Do not forget this!)So without Chimchar´s outrage we would have had to bear another defeat of Ash against Paul: 0-2 !!

You will probably object:
"He's the hero. Paul's the rival. The hero always beats the rival."
but
How in the world will the writers create a plausible plot in which Ash has a really fair(!) chance to defeat Paul (as everyone assumes that this will be the case later on)
With this obvious differences between Ash and Paul, I see no logical reason why Ash should win someday ! Moreover, any other plot deviating from this fact by, for example, suddenly giving Ash´s Pokemon supernatural power throughout the Shinnoh League in order to beat Paul would be shoody, cheap storywriting, which just can´t be true after all this wonderful D/P episodes so far.

Edit: And, yes, I also share the opinion that Chimchar should have envolved at last! Primarly, not because I´m keen on seeing evolutions but because I´m extremly afraid of having to experience another Johto League and because Ash HAS tominimize this worrying distance between Paul and him! Please, writers, have mercy!

Uh, so the long-running theme of "gaining strength through training together and maintaining a healthy relationship with your Pokemon" is shoddy, cheap writing for Pokemon? I... don't really think so. Hell, we still have more than half the damn Shinou league to go. It's way too early to say that it's implausible for Satoshi to best Shinji in a realistic manner.

Interestingly, we've seen Satoshi train far more this saga than can ever remember seeing in the past. Which, to me, shows that they're planning on having his Pokemon grow at a slower rate but to an overall higher level. It's not 'bad writing'. 'Bad writing' would be Satoshi suddenly winning against Shinji despite the fact that they're both high-level trainers and Shinji has an arguably more powerful team at the moment. That'll change though, so chill. Have a little faith.

I just saw this episode on Youtube and I thought it was a great episode. Chimchar going berserk was great character development. Also I thought Gligar was hilariously cute in this episode, it is certainly one of my top favorite Pokemon on Ash's team.

I agree with ash_forever where Paul's Pokemon might be too strong for Ash to compete against, I can't even begin to imagine what they are going to be like at the Sinnoh League. I wish Ash would call on Charizard or get Sceptile. But I know that Ash will most likely use the Pokemon he caught in Sinnoh. We will just have to see what the future has to give us.

Overall this was a great episode, one of my favorites by far. It had great character development. I give it a thumbs up.

Uh, so the long-running theme of "gaining strength through training together and maintaining a healthy relationship with your Pokemon" is shoddy, cheap writing for Pokemon? I... don't really think so. Hell, we still have more than half the damn Shinou league to go. It's way too early to say that it's implausible for Satoshi to best Shinji in a realistic manner.

Interestingly, we've seen Satoshi train far more this saga than can ever remember seeing in the past. Which, to me, shows that they're planning on having his Pokemon grow at a slower rate but to an overall higher level. It's not 'bad writing'. 'Bad writing' would be Satoshi suddenly winning against Shinji despite the fact that they're both high-level trainers and Shinji has an arguably more powerful team at the moment. That'll change though, so chill. Have a little faith.

That´s the crux!
No one may assume that things WILL actually change in a plausible way...
And that´s what I´m seriously worried about.

After having just looked at the episode pictures of the latest RAW episode (Scorching Chimchar) I´m quite nervous now.
Paul, or better his Pokemon are much much too strong for Ash to compete with. No comment about Gligar (I´ve still been regretting till this day that he caught it...) and Chimchar only won by coincidence (his behavior was singular and it surely won´t be able to repeat it again later! Do not forget this!)So without Chimchar´s outrage we would have had to bear another defeat of Ash against Paul: 0-2 !!

You will probably object:
"He's the hero. Paul's the rival. The hero always beats the rival."
but
How in the world will the writers create a plausible plot in which Ash has a really fair(!) chance to defeat Paul (as everyone assumes that this will be the case later on)
With this obvious differences between Ash and Paul, I see no logical reason why Ash should win someday ! Moreover, any other plot deviating from this fact by, for example, suddenly giving Ash´s Pokemon supernatural power throughout the Shinnoh League in order to beat Paul would be shoody, cheap storywriting, which just can´t be true after all this wonderful D/P episodes so far.

Edit: And, yes, I also share the opinion that Chimchar should have envolved at last! Primarly, not because I´m keen on seeing evolutions but because I´m extremly afraid of having to experience another Johto League and because Ash HAS tominimize this worrying distance between Paul and him! Please, writers, have mercy!

Look, if Chimchar didn't have his uncontrollable blaze on Ash would of been 0-2. The match ups favored Paul. Paul used an evolved form of Gliscor against Ash (big surprise) and Ursaring against a Chimchar. I agree with you that Paul's pokemon seem to be a higher level than Ash's. We will see about that at the end though. Both of Paul's pokemon are fully evolved while Ash's should evolve at least once. At the end you will see at the very least Ash's Staravia turn into a Staraptor and Buziel into a Floatzel as well. This team will be the strongest team Ash will have going into the championships.

Look, if Chimchar didn't have his uncontrollable blaze on Ash would of been 0-2. The match ups favored Paul. Paul used an evolved form of Gliscor against Ash (big surprise) and Ursaring against a Chimchar. I agree with you that Paul's pokemon seem to be a higher level than Ash's. We will see about that at the end though. Both of Paul's pokemon are fully evolved while Ash's should evolve at least once. At the end you will see at the very least Ash's Staravia turn into a Staraptor and Buziel into a Floatzel as well. This team will be the strongest team Ash will have going into the championships.

Plus there is the chance that Ash could use his reserves against Paul during the league that have strength AND experience on their side.

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