I rented an SUV last year and things were a bit tight since I didn't use a bike rack. My art project will be in quite a larger box this year, so space is key. A box truck is too big. A van would have been perfect, but the Budget on Gentry doesn't have those.

Minivans offer more space, though of course not as much space as a cargo van. You may want to check with your rental company (or consider shopping around with other rental companies) to see if they've got the right vehicle you're looking for.

If you rent a mini-van, will it come with all the seats in it? Do you think the rental place would take them out and store them for you? The place on Gentry way seems pretty great and more accommodating to burners than other joints.

Then again, I think most minivan seats all fold up and in on themselves now a days right?

Anyway, yeah, minivans have a ton of space!

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Thanks. I think mini van is the way to go then. I used Enterprise last year and went through the whole farce of pretending that I wasn't going to the playa. Did well enough at the car wash that they guy looked super confused when he hit the seats and no cloud of dust came up. Opened the hood, but I had been forewarned and had the engine cleaned.

I'd use them again, but am paranoid that they have some note on my account. The last thing I want to have happen is to get out there and have my reservation canceled.

Okay, from what I've heard (from their chief cheerleader, junglesmacks) you don't have to fear the Gentry Way Budget. Consider calling and talking about vans and seats.I have a Grand Caravan conversion. The second row off seats were taken out for the conversion. The third row is pretty much part of the van. It's an early to mid-90s vintage. That seats that fold into the floor thing may not have been standard until later.

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Over the years my campmates have rented dozens of vehicles of various make/model. Just make sure you turn off any a/c and set any vent blower to recirculate the air (if you have the option) before you get off the playa, then take the vehicle to get a really great car wash (whatever passes for the works, interior and exterior), and you should be fine.

I should clarify. I fly in and ship two or three boxes. So purchase isn't an option.

Last year I used my Amex for the car reservation and called the travel concierge and let them know I was concerned about my car being canceled at the last minute. Amex is very good at sticking up for the cardholder and making things happen.

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true enough, towing a trailer is not for everyone!! Inexperience in this case is dangerous. I grew up on single lane highways, have towed trailers for decades... Probably 1/2 of the people hauling trailers to Burning Man have hardly ever driven on a single lane highway, let alone hauled a trailer. - Certainly not the time to learn!!

Winter driving when pulling a trailer has taught me a lot about caution and consequences. Not to mention the dulling of reflexes after driving for 12 hrs straight.

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I'm coming out a day earlier than last year. I was rushing around Reno to get out the the playa early and overextended myself. As tired as I was, I should not have been driving. I'm trying to avoid that this year. If I can get early entry, worst case scenario is I have to make two trips to drop off the art. Or beg space from someone else.

Just throwing it out there as a reminder, 10' box trucks are basically just cargo vans with a different caboose on them. Often time suspension is beefed up a bit, but other wise they are basically E-350's. They will handle very similar to a Cargo van, except that side winds will be a bit more dramatic.

Go slow, take your time, and always park far out in the parking lots.

YOU CAN DO EEET!

Why don't ya stick your head in that hole and find out? ~pieholePlan for the worst, expect the best. Make the most out of it under any conditions. If you cannot do that you will never enjoy yourself. ~CrispyDave

I'm coming out a day earlier than last year. I was rushing around Reno to get out the the playa early and overextended myself. As tired as I was, I should not have been driving. I'm trying to avoid that this year. If I can get early entry, worst case scenario is I have to make two trips to drop off the art. Or beg space from someone else.

You are wise to add a day to your BM trip, getting to Reno a day early will greatly reduce your prep & stress. (Not to mention allowing you a night just to relax before driving up.)

As far as the 10 Ft truck goes - it boils down to driving what you feel comfortable... Whatever you decide to drive, take your time - leave lots of room when driving on the highway and do not expect the trip to Gerlach to take exactly 1 hr and 58 minutes - plan for a 3 hr trip and just enjoy the drive

(Try making that run from Reno to Gerlach after driving 2700 Km (1677 Miles)... {smirk} that last two + hours is a cakewalk compared to the 22 hours it took to get to Reno )

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Rice wrote:(Try making that run from Reno to Gerlach after driving 2700 Km (1677 Miles)... {smirk} that last two + hours is a cakewalk compared to the 22 hours it took to get to Reno )

Ouchies. Last year I flew out of New Jersey. Left my home at 4am. Arrived in Reno around noon. Drove around like a maniac buying everything I needed and throwing it willy nilly into the rented SUV. Took a shower at the Sands, ate a last meal and drove off. Hit the dust around midnight but got caught in that bizarre 3 hour line at gate. Pissed in an empty starbucks cup in my car because I was too timid to ask to use somone's RV and every time I tried to walk to a potty, the line would inch forward a few cars.

Found my spot sometime around 3:30am and slept in the front seat of my car. In that manic sort of way you get when that tired, I was positive that I was making the biggest mistake of my life, that i was either going to die or just sit sobbing for the entire week. Three hours later I stumbled out of the car. Someone handed me a slice of bacon and a jello shot and all was right in the world.

Minivan seems like the method for me. I'll have more tiem to figure out how to pack everything in and theoretically less waste than last year.

Done it both ways and then somemy fav wasThe biggest baddest Dodge truck rental and then you have the 4 by for in case of needand get some PVC pipe to set up in the back with a tarp and bungies anything can be made

and I forgot to mention that it turned me from a NYC Sparklepony into a singing truck driver foreverso easy and funwhen serious storms came up tightening the tarps around the bedding keeping the bins of other always under the truck and tarped

VC, if you fly into Sacramento, the owner of the Budget/Avis dealership is not only a friend of mine but is very burner-friendly. I have posted this in the past and people seem pretty happy with what he can offer in the way of minivans. Remove the two back seats (if you choose) and you should have plenty of space, at least for one person. It's a little tight for two, but that's another problem for another day. You know how to get ahold of me if you wish to persue that avenue.

We'll be coming in a MV (Honda Odyssey). One thing to keep in mind is that on the Hondas you have to actually REMOVE the two middle/captains seats (they prefer to have a lower profile on their vehicle than they would otherwise if they allowed for the seat storage). Unlike the Dodge/Chrysler models you can NOT fold them down into the floor. You can fold the back bench seat down flat, but you may not want to since doing so blocks the deep well that can be used for storage.

That said, it seems like most rental places use the cheaper Dodge/Chryslers, so this may be a moot point.