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Realistically, Hayate should get binders to improve her AMBAC before worrying about other things...
Hayate can top Nanoha by using a nuclear bazooka, Moonlight Butterfly, Ide Cannon, Wings of Light, Satellite Cannon, or to be a little modest, METEOR unit/Orchis unit. Given the huge variety of choices out there for MS loadout, it does seem a bit underwhelming to stick with Fortress, doesn't it?

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Realistically, Hayate should get binders to improve her AMBAC before worrying about other things...

The Fortress equipment is more than just flying shields. It also contains its own flight unit capable of maintaining flight in Zero Effect zones where magic can't work. You can see it attached to her back and to her hips in the image.

No, he just bolted more weapons onto it. Then it blew up and he got another one. And then that one blew up...

To be fair Chirico did get the suped up Rabidly Dog for the last 3 episodes. Still, in the TV series alone he went through 23 ATs (I kept track).

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Originally Posted by Akiyoshi

This is the Gundam SEED Destiny of the Nanoha franchise xDU

No. You clearly have no idea why Destiny is hated so much.

Anyways, it looks like people don't understand the point of these new weapons. Of course they're the same/generic/whatever. They are designed to be used by common soldiers. If they were super customized weapons meant only for the Aces, they'd be worthless for the army as a whole.

To be fair Chirico did get the suped up Rabidly Dog for the last 3 episodes.

And even then, that was only a slightly different-looking blue Scopedog. Statistically it was better, but it didn't have anything too far above common ATs at the time - it even eventually gets blown up by ordinary grunts.

I loved how in the first part of Z2 his last upgrade was just a black Scopedog, and it could regularly do more damage than any unique robots.

Anyways, it looks like people don't understand the point of these new weapons. Of course they're the same/generic/whatever. They are designed to be used by common soldiers. If they were super customized weapons meant only for the Aces, they'd be worthless for the army as a whole.

And ended up dampening the heroes's individual talents as a consequence xDU

Elites should get weapons tuned to fit their strenghts and cover their weknesses instead of them being the ones in the need to get adapted to the weapon. At lest they should get custom upgraded versions of the AEC's and not mass production models that break constantly and do a semi-decent job against their intended targets.

And ended up dampening the heroes's individual talents as a consequence xDU

Elites should get weapons tuned to fit their strenghts and cover their weknesses instead of them being the ones in the need to get adapted to the weapon. At lest they should get custom upgraded versions of the AEC's and not mass production models that break constantly and do a semi-decent job against their intended targets.

But before the company can customize the AEC equipment, wouldn't they need data from the mass produced unit to optimize it to the wielder's need?
I mean, sure, there are generics models focused on one thing, but the the elites took it even further than that. Like say, Fate and SIgnum. The former relies on speed more while the latter focus on strength.

Elites should get weapons tuned to fit their strenghts and cover their weknesses instead of them being the ones in the need to get adapted to the weapon. At lest they should get custom upgraded versions of the AEC's and not mass production models that break constantly and do a semi-decent job against their intended targets.

I'd agree with you but these weapons are in the testing phases. Data needs to be collected and refined before they're passed off to the regular troops. As combat instructors, Nanoha and Vita at least have this in their job description.

For a similar situation, look at Muv Luv Alternative Total Eclipse. Yuuya keeps complaining about how 'shitty' Japanese TSFs are compared to American ones. He doesn't want to pilot a Japanese TSF but the whole bloody point of the project he's a test pilot for is to develop a better TSF for the Japanese to use.

Ok uhm... not that i won't be happy to see Hayate back in action but... as Skane mentioned i'll remain cautious. Strike Cannons and specially Fortress units aren't renowed precisely for their effectiveness xDU

I could see Curren totally trashing trough that thing xD

How am I gonna stop some big mean motherhubbard from tearing me a structurally superfluous new behind?

Reason: too expensive to replace and it gets destroyed like tissue paper.

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Dang it Avalon, you c(XD LOL)-block Shirou and Reinforce, but don't protect his mind in other ways? What is wrong, you woman?
Friendship, be made! Magical power, gather! Starlight Breaker.... this world!