(A) the application of systems, network or database analysis techniques and procedures, including consulting with users, to determine or modify hardware, software, network, database, or system functional specifications;

(C) directing the work of individuals performing duties described in subparagraph (A) or (B), including training such individuals or leading teams performing such duties; or

(D) a combination of duties described in subparagraphs (A), (B), and (C), the performance of which requires the same level of skill;

who is compensated at an hourly rate of not less than $27.63 an hour or who is paid on a salary basis at a salary level as set forth by the Department of Labor in part 541 of title 29, Code of Federal Regulations. An employee described in this paragraph shall be considered an employee in a professional capacity pursuant to paragraph (1).’

a assault upon all government and government workers continue by the far right n the US.

The postal service, a key key componant of all efficient industrialized nations important for commerce of all sorts was through internal manipulation of pension beneifts and payments on paper sent from a position of profit to gross disprofit.All a paper chase not a hint of real to it.

But the privatization of the postal service is the ultimate as is a end to public education and about all of government excepting defense...that is the ideology in bare form.

So what matter to us use email.....postal services provide equal potential for communication for all of all incomes and locations.A private provider certainly would not serve the rural populations or certain populations in inner city....as it is not profitable, and email for some may not be possible,due to education or age or means.So not so many.... they will be left behing by that thing.Such it is with things of gobvernment though sometimes not making money sense...the benefit for equal communication service regardless of wealth or location....is necessary for most efficient commerce.

Concerned about the postal service are IT professionals..probably notConcerned about ITprofessionals are the postal workers..probably not

Such is human....just themselves till the door be knocked for them.Know right here and now the agenda...is all government sans defense and possibly police.

"This order considers that progress can be achieved more rapidly during a single month of self-transformation through terrifying conditions in rough terrain and in "the abode of harmful forces" than through meditating for a period of three years in towns and monasteries"....Takpo Tashi Namgyal.

No offense FE, but I am very select on who I take advise from on what I should worry about and in what manner.Certainly those peoples are not to be found on the internet.

Heruka....a agenda is now present to even do away with the post office. How can a ideological construct that one may follow fit that in.....how is the post office a thing of bad big federal government.

NO this is not consistant. The agenda is not to grow government but to reduce it in every fashion.You are of course familiar with Charles Dickens and the world that was that place and time...this is the agenda that place of that particular ideology current right here and now.

Corporate influence of government of course that is a bad. But that the fed is currently under the influence of the corporate, does not infer that the fed is then a bad bad thing that must be completely eliminated(per example there are many). With no government the powerful have no balance to their power.That now things are akilter does not mean we throw out the baby with the bathwater.

"This order considers that progress can be achieved more rapidly during a single month of self-transformation through terrifying conditions in rough terrain and in "the abode of harmful forces" than through meditating for a period of three years in towns and monasteries"....Takpo Tashi Namgyal.

ronnewmexico wrote:Heruka....a agenda is now present to even do away with the post office. How can a ideological construct that one may follow fit that in.....how is the post office a thing of bad big federal government.

there was no implication on my part of what you write, i only presented what is there, not my own opinion.

the postal service is a poor example considering its current fiscal woes. i like my posty, hes an awesome guy, the dog it seems is his natural enemy.

going postal of course is something else.

but can it compete in a crony insider world?

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And in the counter of TJ is alexander hamilton which we have been taught was the bad old guy..

Truth perhaps being....his contention of republic as opposed to strict democracy that TJ advocated, was based upon the ease with which the masses could be manipulated by those with means.Presently being those who hold the cards and write things as per history...this is never mentioned. We being in the throws of that thing...manipulation.

Speaking of manipulation...the postal service is solely in bankruptcy due to manipulating of pension securement funds. Amounts that must be now suddenly kept in reserve to counter pension obligations.A ruse to manipulate it into the appearence of bankruptcy and then to quash this considered bug of unionized work force and federal government. A concorted effort evident in american media suddenly concurrent with this thing. A corporate add recently has statues in line seemingly never moving...postal service is the place. Though the product being sold is of no relation to that. All reference to postal service..snail mail is what it is called on fox affiliates. And on and on.So it goes manipulation ever ending.

Truth is...postal service is one of the most important things of the american republic and first began in that then new thing.Corporate mail service...only areas of profit to be served....poor rural..not in that play book...no profit in it.

The consequence.....another group disadvantaged and out of the loop...the concentration being then to certain peoples and to exclusion of others from which no profit can be made...such is corporatism. Government the enemy..only to the extent it be corporately controled.

Dickens england.

"This order considers that progress can be achieved more rapidly during a single month of self-transformation through terrifying conditions in rough terrain and in "the abode of harmful forces" than through meditating for a period of three years in towns and monasteries"....Takpo Tashi Namgyal.

ronnewmexico wrote:Truth is...postal service is one of the most important things of the american republic and first began in that then new thing.Corporate mail service...only areas of profit to be served....poor rural..not in that play book...no profit in it.

The consequence.....another group disadvantaged and out of the loop...the concentration being then to certain peoples and to exclusion of others from which no profit can be made...such is corporatism. Government the enemy..only to the extent it be corporately controled.

After this then with a republican president....education..totally privatized. Those without means.... places for their staying but not hardly a bit of education to it .....that I see happening. Close to now but not quite there yet. Children working....well why not. Sitting doing nothing or working, the poor......why not?

And on and on all of government federally removed or replaced with overt now covert corporate control and dominance.Social security despite being in fine fiscal health....reduced to nothing, and held to no new members guaranteeing its fiscal instability. With corporate investment being the opting out. Enter stage right....that thing.

Medicare...forget about it...state run only, if run at all.

So the american public will learn the payment extracted for not paying attention. Eventually. First looking around for straw men to burn then that.

"This order considers that progress can be achieved more rapidly during a single month of self-transformation through terrifying conditions in rough terrain and in "the abode of harmful forces" than through meditating for a period of three years in towns and monasteries"....Takpo Tashi Namgyal.

In 1833 the United States abolished Federal imprisonment for unpaid debts,[5] and most states outlawed the practice around the same time.[6][7] Before then, the use of debtor's prisons was widespread; signatories to the Declaration of Independence, James Wilson and Robert Morris were both later incarcerated, as were 2,000 New Yorkers annually by 1816. Henry Lee III, better known as Light-Horse Harry Lee, a Revolutionary War general, former governor of Virginia, and father of Robert E. Lee, was imprisoned for debt between 1808 and 1809.[8] Sometimes, imprisonment would result from less than sixty cents' worth of debt.[9]

Yes certainly. The privatized prison lobby will call for that...Wait a bit for the looking around for enemies time to pin the coming debacle upon...the poor.Easily found they are and with no lobby...who wants to be them.

Gone will be the public aspect of government not the private for profit aspect. Taxes to run this thing ,corporately, how could it be better?Back then the prisons were not for profit government things...now private...no getting out will there be. Out would mean the money for stay would be reduced.

"This order considers that progress can be achieved more rapidly during a single month of self-transformation through terrifying conditions in rough terrain and in "the abode of harmful forces" than through meditating for a period of three years in towns and monasteries"....Takpo Tashi Namgyal.