Lets be honest. Ence's games in epl were pretty close If we don't count spirit. Games against astralis and vitality were pretty close so i think Ence isnt that Bad. Yes ik they were online but everything is online rn.

I really hope they always do that from now on, even once the majors start happening every few months again. I remember Thorin mentioning once that Legends shouldn't get automatic invitations and if Valve wants to keep up the storyline or something like that, Legends should just get higher seeding in qualifiers.

Yeah and it was oringally a NA/Denmark mixed team. It was orginally K0nifg, CajunB, Stanislaw, Shazham and gade. Team failed horribly so they brought out Jugi an Snappii. To add on to the millions they payed. Optic folded a couple of months later

Strange thing is that it may very well be true for CSGO. I mean, is there a worse trade deal than this?

Regi TSM's "owner" letting his lineup go when they told him "bring back the manager you fired, he is good at his job". Regi was too stubborn to admit he made a mistake by kicking the manager so he kicked the players too and traded in some randoms.

The players made Astralis after they got fired and went on to win everything while Regi pretty much disappeared from CSGO and is a joke in the League of Legends scene

FaZe OpTic CoD dude bought team with kNg, got stickers in the fucking game and NEVER PLAYED A MAP. They literally didn’t play a single map. He put a lot of money up and got likely very, very little return lol

I don't know for sure, but I don't think any money changed hands in that whole ordeal. GODSENT just got KRiMZ, JW and flusha while fnatic got twist and Lekr0, and pauf got to eat shit.

On the flip side, the best trade deal in the history CS:GO trade deals is probably ocelote selling ScreaM to Titan for a big sack of cash, only to then sell his entire team to FaZe for another big sack of cash and sign the former roster of Titan (including ScreaM) for free after Titan folded.

MIBR are starting to look a better now, they finished first in their group in flashpoint 1, and now are unbeaten in flashpoint 2. They won their last match in esl against 100 Thieves 2-0. I know its only flashpoint but they are still looking better.

I mean Astralis is far from invincible anymore. Mousesports is somewhat inconsistent. Fnatic has been looking pretty solid. I haven't been paying attention to Liquid so idk. Other than those teams and Navi, G2 should be able to beat anyone else.

Liquid have been extremely shaky in their online epl matches, and I don't think it's just because the matches were online. Also, G2 swept Liquid in Katowice so I think G2 would perform well against Liquid (assuming everything stays the same until then).

Yup its all scrapped. Teams playing in the minors will now play the RMR to earn points towards playing in the Major alongside those who were “Legends” and “Challengers”. Legends however start off with added points.

They still make it to the qualifier tournament. Which isn't that bad considering the qualifiers were originally online. So in retrospective those minor qualifiers can be considered qualifiers for that qualifying tournament.

So, say for the sake of argument that Dignitas win every goddamn map they play in this RMR stage. Will they then instantly earn a Legend spot, displacing one of the StarLadder Berlin EU legends? Sure sounds like it.

All in all this is probably good news for all minor teams. As it stood prior to these developments, they'd have to place top 2 at an eight-team LAN event just to progress to the major. Now, they'll be playing online events (to begin with) on equal footing with the Legends and Challengers of Berlin to secure their spot. Only teams who already had a spot locked in at the Major stand to lose from this, really.

i love it. people have always been complaining about how when the next major rolls around, half the teams have dropped off and dont deserve a major spot. this should reduce those chances and give other teams a higher chance

But they’d only displace a legend spot if one of those 8 teams did worse pints wise. Because we don’t know how many points a legend or challenger spot gets at the start, a legend team may only need to win half the games to make sure their spot is completely safe from a team starting with zero points

Good, I'm personally glad they did away with the legends, really only the top 2-4 should be invited back imo, the rest should have to earn it, since Majors are ~6 months apart, A LOT can happen in 6 months in CSGO.

As long as an event invites the top regional teams and holds qualifiers it can go in the rankings, there aren't any other limitations. It makes sense to me. There likely won't be a ton of events so they are saying that the bar is very low to be counted, probably to encourage organizers to run events.

I assume that the EU teams participating in Flashpoint are all in the "wrong" region right now, ping would be shit otherwise. The post seems to say that those teams could earn their EU spots by beating NA teams.

The post seems to say that those teams could earn their EU spots by beating NA teams.

No, I think it means that a team's region is determined by their current physical location not nationality. So c0ntact is in the NA region right now, so is 100T, MIBR, Furia and all of those teams would earn "NA" slots hypothetically.

Q. What determines what region a team competes in?

Given the circumstances, teams’ regions are determined by their current location.

Q. What happens if a team changes region?

Regional Major Rankings only represents a team’s performance relative to other teams in the region. Therefore, any region change by a team will result in a reset of the team’s Major Ranking points.

That's even more interesting, given that it could conceivably lead to a a Major without NA teams at all, if the EU teams currently in NA steal their spots.

I assume, though, that all EU teams currently in NA will seek to haul ass back home as soon as Flashpoint wraps, as they'll otherwise have to play in NA for the entire RMR process or lose their earned points.

Right now, according to this HLTV post, with one spot left TBD there are only 4 non-NA teams in the first NA event. Those are c0ntact, MIBR, Furia and 100T.

Copenhagen Flames (who was eliminated from Flashpoint on March 31) is listed in EU. So is Dignitas, although they like c0ntact haven't been eliminated from Flashpoint yet. Mad lions and HAVU didn't have a slot at the major or minors so they aren't listed anywhere yet.

So technically yes there could be more non-NA teams than slots in the NA region but I'm not sure which teams really plan to spend the year here beyond MIBR, Furia and 100T.

This idea is awesome and should be kept for the following majors, I really like the idea of inviting the best ranked teams (with proper criteria, of course, not based on popularity or brand name) from each region and giving each region the number of slots based on its performance on the previous major.

The only thing that would need to change to keep things interesting is to keep the numbers fixed for the first 16 positions (Legends and Challengers) and divide the remaining 8 (Contenders) like it is today (2 for each major region, or 2-2-1-1-1-1 like it is today), this way the number can change between each edition depending on the region's performance.

Edit: I'm sure Valve is thinking of something like this, and since this is kind of an emergency and unique situation, this format is the best as it can get.

Props to Valve for making this change :) Looking forward to this Major

IMO the top 16 spots should be solely based on a global LAN ranking while the top 8 can go to the minors. But obviously LANs are impossible right now so you pretty much have to split it up regionally. You can think of this format as the top 16 teams from last major essentially defending their spots.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I loved the old system and the possibilities it granted smaller teams.

A team like Flipsid3 earned respect by always qualifying through the major qualifiers.
Unexpected teams like QBF, HellRaisers or CLG had miracle runs that meant incredibly much to them, prestige-wise and financially.

While the quality of the majors definitely increases, all that potential for underdog runs is gone now. Don't know how to to feel about this.

If I’m any pro team that made legends right now I’m absolutely fucking pissed. A lot of people seem to feel really confident about this method but I can’t help but feel some teams and orgs are getting screwed over here. What a weird year 2020 is.

How do those 'Challenger' numbers work? The teams that would have gone through from the last major 9th-16th are Mouz, G2, Crazy, MIBR, FaZe, North, NiP and DreamEaters, which by my calculations is 5 EU, 2 CIS and 1 SA, but the slots are 5 EU, 1 CIS and 2 NA? Someone explain pls?

Not sure how you counted 2 CIS, only DreamEaters is CIS, Crazy had come through the EU minor if you meant them. So that's 6 EU, 1 CIS, 1 SA.

Right now c0ntact and MIBR will both be competing in NA so that explains the two NA slots, although that assumes that c0ntact will be staying in NA for the year (which is possible between COVID and flashpoint 2 I guess)

Teams can change up to two members of their roster in the lead up to an event at a cost of 20% of the team’s points, per player. They can adjust their roster prior to the roster lock for each Regional Major Ranking competition.

They should actually gain 25%. That way, if they were to then drop a player and lose 20% of what they have, they would go back to having 100%. If they gained 20% for their 6th, then if they were to drop a player and lose 20% they would only end up with 96%.