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Re: Orochimaru's Gates are the same.

Originally Posted by Cypher

stop with your speculation its a waste of everyone times....oro couldnt do five or he would have

Three things. First of learn capitals and periods. Second if you don't like it stop reading them. Third now you are the one speculating, saying Orochimaru can't do five. Nowhere does it say that Orochimaru can use the five gates, and nowhere does it say he can't.

Re: Orochimaru's Gates are the same.

Originally Posted by blazekev90

where are the five gates?!?!? It must be mistranslated if anything

what was not on the same power scale??? Gates cant change power scales if they are the same, unless they are chakra enhanced. I'm saying since Naruto's TBB was weaker, the gates completed the steps mentioned in the databook

I said the ttb compared to the tbb + susannoo sword

Are you sure you read my post ?
I agreed with you and even gave an example to showcase the enormous chakra required to open one let alone 3.

Re: Orochimaru's Gates are the same.

Are you sure you read my post ?
I agreed with you and even gave an example to showcase the enormous chakra required to open one let alone 3.

But make no mistake the ttb he exhausted was powerful

sorry, something is wrong with my system, i dont think i ment to quote you. But yeah, thanks for the support and I know Naurto's was powerful, it just fell weak once it reached the 3rd gate, as it should have in the description of their abilities.

Re: Orochimaru's Gates are the same.

There are indeed 5 gates. Take a look at the gates in bottom left panel.

Starting from the left gate...
1st Gate.) Spikes pointing upward
2nd Gate.) Short spikes pointing down
3rd Gate.) Long spikes pointing down
4th Gate.) Curly spikes pointing down
5th Gate.) Can't really see the side but you see the roof of it behind the 4th gate

Re: Orochimaru's Gates are the same.

Originally Posted by Jonesy161

There are indeed 5 gates. Take a look at the gates in bottom left panel.

Starting from the left gate...
1st Gate.) Spikes pointing upward
2nd Gate.) Short spikes pointing down
3rd Gate.) Long spikes pointing down
4th Gate.) Curly spikes pointing down
5th Gate.) Can't really see the side but you see the roof of it behind the 4th gate

Dude there are only three gates in that image, look at them again and notice the structure of each. They're so wide that it looks like multiple gates, it's the exact same as Orochi's.

Re: Orochimaru's Gates are the same.

Originally Posted by blazekev90

So you think this is a technique of the 1st Hokage?!

Well if you look at the bells and roof its virtually identical but i think hashis version had to have been stronger or kishi was trolling i mean ps sword plus a full bijuu dama and it doesnt incinerate on impact..? And oros version did even though it was against 4 tailed naruto. Maybe hashi had a stronger summon, you know like how gamakichi and gamabunta are both toads but bunta is stronger/bigger. If you want to know my theory a part of it is:
oro found hashiramas scroll of jutsus, the one he carried with him on his back. Amongst other things, on it was the contract for summoning the rashommons, which oro signed his name on. When he fought naruto, at the chakra level he was at, he was only able to summon a lesser tier version of the rashommon defence. This also ties in with oros jutsu obssesion imo.
Its a lot more but thats one part of it(the theory).

Re: Orochimaru's Gates are the same.

Originally Posted by NarutoKage2

Well if you look at the bells and roof its virtually identical but i think hashis version had to have been stronger or kishi was trolling i mean ps sword plus a full bijuu dama and it doesnt incinerate on impact..? And oros version did even though it was against 4 tailed naruto. Maybe hashi had a stronger summon, you know like how gamakichi and gamabunta are both toads but bunta is stronger/bigger. If you want to know my theory a part of it is:
oro found hashiramas scroll of jutsus, the one he carried with him on his back. Amongst other things, on it was the contract for summoning the rashommons, which oro signed his name on. When he fought naruto, at the chakra level he was at, he was only able to summon a lesser tier version of the rashommon defence. This also ties in with oros jutsu obssesion imo.
Its a lot more but thats one part of it(the theory).

See I don't think Orochimaru's gates failed, I think they were successful. As the description states, once it reaches the user the attack would have diminished. Looking at the image, the doors looked have opened and successfully went thru the process, as there were no remains of the gates present.

Also, I do agree with his at that time chakra could/did have an effect of how many or the strength of the gates emerged.