Hey guys I was watching Alexis Texas do a interview at this years AVN awards show and one of the questions the Interviewer asked Alexis was u guessed it when is she ever gonna do IR with a Black Male, far as i am concerned Alexis Texas has done plenty of interracial and I dont think its right to constantly harass her on doing a scene with a Black Male. Alexis should not be labeled as racist or a dodger cause of her scenes she has done with Black Women, Black is Black no matter which sex male or female, Black Women have the same DNA and skin color as Black Men the only difference is One has a Vagina the other a Penis, now lets switch it up a bit there are countless White Female Performers that have done IR scenes with Black Men but not Black Women for example Amy Brooke has done scenes with Black Men but not Black Women she has'nt even done a B/G/G scene with a Black woman so why arent White female performers who dodge scenes with Black females considered racist or dodgers? Could they possibly have problems towards Black females? I really dont like the double standards its the same when u have fe w white male performers who refuse to do IR scenes with Black Women cause they claim they cant get a hard on if they do a scene with a black women but these men arent being called out its like Black Women dont matter in the Industry

Historically IR has represented black male white female, and if being interviewed and asked a question is considered harassment, then Ms Texas should retire. She's not being badgered, how is it any different than asking the anal question? If Alexis never does IR, I would be happy, because the last thing I like is forced porn and the same way talent shouldn't shoot or do a scene they don't agree with, they should also have spine enough to flat out say I'm not interested. The term dodger doesn't represent dodging black men, it's dodging the question. If you say it once and say it right, you should never have to say it again.

Yes I did post that thread that was before I found out about how many IR scenes Alexis has done with Black Females everyone from Misty Stone to Cherokee D'Ass I dont think these Black Female Performers would agree to do scenes with Alexis if they thought she was racist and she is also close to a lot of Black Female stars in the business also right after I posted that thread a Moderator directed me to a thread where Mr Pete stated that Alexis has dated Black Men prior to them getting together another fact that I didnt know so I wasnt informed on this before I wrote that thread.

And yes I said that too now come to think of it, it backs up my statement I said about Alexis not being racist cause Ebony Companies hire her and Black Men direct her in films, they do it cause yes her name does have Star power and can sell thier Product and they see that she works with Black females so they know she isnt racist,I dont think these Ebony/IR Companies like West Coast Productions or Mercernary would hire White Female Performers like Taylor Rain or Jesse Jane the REAL DODGERS OF IR they havent touched either Male or Female Ebony Performers. So nothing is hypocritical about my post. People just cant pick and choose who they think is a Dodger just like the example I made if Alexis Texas is considered a Dodger than I guess u would have to consider Amy Brooke or any other White Female performer who has only chosen to do IR with one Sex if it be male or female and not the other

^ But do you know for sure that Amy Brookewon't work with a black female?

It's possible no one has ever cast her in a scene with a black girl. How many scenes has she even done with other girls? Not that many. Probably less than 10% of her scenes have another girl in them (whether it's a g/g scene or a b/g/g scene).

Superdeluxe wrote:Historically IR has represented black male white female, and if being interviewed and asked a question is considered harassment, then Ms Texas should retire. She's not being badgered, how is it any different than asking the anal question? If Alexis never does IR, I would be happy, because the last thing I like is forced porn and the same way talent shouldn't shoot or do a scene they don't agree with, they should also have spine enough to flat out say I'm not interested. The term dodger doesn't represent dodging black men, it's dodging the question. If you say it once and say it right, you should never have to say it again.

Well know Historically IR did not represent Black Males and White Females cause back in the 70s when Porn was in its infancy the first IR scenes were done with Black Females and White Males it was too taboo to have Black Men do scenes with White Females back then it gradually came into being doing the late 80s when u first had real light skinned Black dudes like Billy Dee do scenes with White Females,and Alexis has done IR cause everytime she did a scene with Misty Stone or Marie Luv IAFD states it as IR and Misty and Marie Luv look Black to me, and when the Interviewer at AVN asked Alexis that question she had a look on her face like she was getting tired of hearing that question cause she probally hears it everytime she interviews and it can be annoying to be asked the same question over and over again somthing that u have already done,Alexis has done IR it should count that she has done it with Black Women on IAFD Database anytime a White Female Performer does a scene with a Black Women lets say in like a All-Girl title or even a B/G/G scene that list it as Interracial.

killbillvol69 wrote:^ But do you know for sure that Amy Brookewon't work with a black female?

It's possible no one has ever cast her in a scene with a black girl. How many scenes has she even done with other girls? Not that many. Probably less than 10% of her scenes have another girl in them (whether it's a g/g scene or a b/g/g scene).

No I just checked IAFD and it states that Amy Brooke has done scenes with 100 Females thus far in her Career and none of them are Black so yes she has done a lot of Girl/Girl and G/G/B scenes and it might be cause of personal issues she may have with Black Women but I am not gonna assume anything I am using her as a Example.

Superdeluxe wrote:Historically IR has represented black male white female, and if being interviewed and asked a question is considered harassment, then Ms Texas should retire. She's not being badgered, how is it any different than asking the anal question? If Alexis never does IR, I would be happy, because the last thing I like is forced porn and the same way talent shouldn't shoot or do a scene they don't agree with, they should also have spine enough to flat out say I'm not interested. The term dodger doesn't represent dodging black men, it's dodging the question. If you say it once and say it right, you should never have to say it again.

Well know Historically IR did not represent Black Males and White Females cause back in the 70s when Porn was in its infancy the first IR scenes were done with Black Females and White Males it was too taboo to have Black Men do scenes with White Females back then it gradually came into being doing the late 80s when u first had real light skinned Black dudes like Billy Dee do scenes with White Females,and Alexis has done IR cause everytime she did a scene with Misty Stone or Marie Luv IAFD states it as IR and Misty and Marie Luv look Black to me, and when the Interviewer at AVN asked Alexis that question she had a look on her face like she was getting tired of hearing that question cause she probally hears it everytime she interviews and it can be annoying to be asked the same question over and over again somthing that u have already done,Alexis has done IR it should count that she has done it with Black Women on IAFD Database anytime a White Female Performer does a scene with a Black Women lets say in like a All-Girl title or even a B/G/G scene that list it as Interracial.I beleive that gradually Alexis will start to do scenes with Black Males but I can really see her getting annoyed with Question constantly being asked to her by Interviewers give it a rest.

Well know Historically IR did not represent Black Males and White Females cause back in the 70s when Porn was in its infancy the first IR scenes were done with Black Females and White Males it was too taboo to have Black Men do scenes with White Females back then it gradually came into being doing the late 80s

Johnnie Keyes would be surprised to be informed of this.

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Posted - Mar 15 2014 : 2:28AM

In this day and age, everything is racist. Just talking about racism is racist.

No I just checked IAFD and it states that Amy Brooke has done scenes with 100 Females thus far in her Career and none of them are Black so yes she has done a lot of Girl/Girl and G/G/B scenes and it might be cause of personal issues she may have with Black Women but I am not gonna assume anything I am using her as a Example.

Please. You're not fooling anybody other than yourself. It looks like you've made your mind up already.

Like killbillvol69 already said, it could just be the case that she wasn't cast with a black girl. If that is the case, it is incidental and not because of personal issues that you suspect.

Siri, Chanel Preston and Kagney Linn Karter didn't do IR from the start and with them it wasn't due to personal issues with black guys. There were reasons other than racism on their part but as I've said before, race and racism are the only things you see in other people.

Personally, it still annoys me that the word "racist" is used to label people (white women) in porn who haven't had sex a black performer (black guy) on camera (yet). If we follow this ridiculous line of thinking then every girl who enters porn is automatically a racist until she does an IR scene. Apparently some girls are only racist for 4 months after entering porn and some are racist for 4 years after entering porn. Is there a time limit on this stuff? If Alexis actually does an IR scene next week does that mean she was racist up to that point or is it retroactive and she suddenly never was racist?

A white girl having sex with a black girl only doesn't count as IR when the person talking about it decides it isn't. I image some guys decide it doesn't count because they don't care about girl on girl or have decided that boy on girl only matters. Of course this kind of thinking is all over the place because there are no rules and even if there were some people choose not to follow the established definition of words...much like the people who tend to freely toss out the word "racist" at any black/white situation they don't like.

No I just checked IAFD and it states that Amy Brooke has done scenes with 100 Females thus far in her Career and none of them are Black so yes she has done a lot of Girl/Girl and G/G/B scenes and it might be cause of personal issues she may have with Black Women but I am not gonna assume anything I am using her as a Example.

Please. You're not fooling anybody other than yourself. It looks like you've made your mind up already.

Like killbillvol69 already said, it could just be the case that she wasn't cast with a black girl. If that is the case, it is incidental and not because of personal issues that you suspect.

Siri, Chanel Preston and Kagney Linn Karter didn't do IR from the start and with them it wasn't due to personal issues with black guys. There were reasons other than racism on their part but as I've said before, race and racism are the only things you see in other people.

No I have another reason why I suspect Amy Brooke never had a scene with a Black Chick, Amy is close friends with a former Female Performer that made disparaging remarks about Black Women a while back, I am not gonna name that performer but I know Amy is close buddies with her so thats my other reason why I think she never had a scene with Black Female Performers.

^ All you are proving is your lack of understanding of the complexities of human nature. People become friends for any number of reasons, and overlooking the faults in one's friends is a basic requirement if you intend to keep them.

You may think being a racist is a fault that cannot be overlooked, and perhaps it should not be overlooked, but we're talking about human beings here. We're not exactly models of logic or consistency.

JadaBlaze01 wrote:No I just checked IAFD and it states that Amy Brooke has done scenes with 100 Females thus far in her Career and none of them are Black so yes she has done a lot of Girl/Girl and G/G/B scenes and it might be cause of personal issues she may have with Black Women but I am not gonna assume anything I am using her as a Example.

and then your true colors and agenda comes right out with this...

JadaBlaze01 wrote:No I have another reason why I suspect Amy Brooke never had a scene with a Black Chick, Amy is close friends with a former Female Performer that made disparaging remarks about Black Women a while back, I am not gonna name that performer but I know Amy is close buddies with her so thats my other reason why I think she never had a scene with Black Female Performers.

A race-baiting troll is all you are. Male? Female? Who knows. But a troll you are.

Don't know why you have been allowed to stay around here as long as you have.

Why does this topic keep coming up? Maybe because it matters to some (it matters to me). If it doesn't matter to you, then you don't have to read the thread and you certainly don't have to post to it.

I'll say this. Simply because a performer hasn't had sex with a black man on video does NOT mean she's racist. If she has a policy of not doing so that doesn't necessarily mean she's racist, as Aurora Snow has written, it could be she has an agency or manager or somebody who doesn't want her doing that for some business reason that is probably no longer valid, but whatever.

But here's what gets me. ALL the time I see pornstars fucking guys who I can not imagine they are attracted to, and it makes sense they do so, cuz it's a job, for heaven's sake, and their job is to fuck on video and make it appear they are enjoying the hell out of it. That's the job, and many pornstars are very good at it. Pornstars fuck guys they can tolerate and who won't misbehave in ways they don't like. Now if a pornstar says that she won't fuck black men on video and says it's cuz that's her preference (rather than the decision of her agency/manager/suitcase pimp), it absolutely is her right (of course!) and that MAY not be racist, but it sure makes me go hmmmm...

And it does because the very job of a pornstar is to get fucked on camera and make it look good even if they are tired, hungover, emotionally upset, and they aren't actually into the fucker. That the fucker being black is a no-no is hard for me to overlook.

joneric wrote:But here's what gets me. ALL the time I see pornstars fucking guys who I can not imagine they are attracted to, and it makes sense they do so, cuz it's a job, for heaven's sake, and their job is to fuck on video and make it appear they are enjoying the hell out of it.

And someone else again making ASSumptions.

You do realize that female performers have "no lists" right. The skin color and identity of the guys on that list are what and who? We don't know. Why are they on that list? We don't know. And it is none of our business.

But I am going to quote you...

joneric wrote:Why does this topic keep coming up? Maybe because it matters to some (it matters to me). If it doesn't matter to you, then you don't have to read the thread and you certainly don't have to post to it.

And it does because the very job of a pornstar is to get fucked on camera and make it look good even if they are tired, hungover, emotionally upset, and they aren't actually into the fucker. That the fucker being black is a no-no is hard for me to overlook.

If it really bothers you that a specific girl does not perform with black men then you don't have to watch her and you certainly don't have to be a fan of hers.

absolutely spot on analysis joneric.rlankford, the way the agency card is designed it isassumed that if a girl doesn't state ir then that means a "no" list for any black performer.

what's more funny the can endlessly fuck with some ugly and lousy mopes but a vanilla ir 20 minute sceneseems like climbing a cliff for some of these girls and is difficult to understand after they have done a variety of sex acts.

the speculation about being bigoted arises when their earlier explanation as to why not do ir doesn't hold water.

For example, I'm no longer a fan of Luna C. Kitsuen because of her expressed no-IR preferences. And I liked Taylor Rain until I learned about her attitude on IR.

I don't see your comment as any refutation of what I wrote, which is essentially that many times pornstars fuck guys they aren't particularly attracted to, for one to say that she will NEVER fuck a guy who is black on video...if that preference isn't driven by agency/manager/suitcase pimp policy, then it seems reasonable to suppose it has something to do with racial prejudice. Now, before you do the predictable thing, let me say, yes, you're right, it is a FREE country, if she wants to be racist, that's her right.

That said, I guess I also have a right not to like it and to even post that I don't like it, as long as the forum moderators let me.

That isn't what I wrote or what I meant. What I wrote was that if the topic didn't matter to you, you didn't have to post, not that if you disagreed with me you didn't have to post.

Your second sentence has a host of problems. First, if a bunch of white guys are on a pornstar's no list, as you mentioned in a previous post we don't necessarily know why they are on there. We're talking about someone having a no-IR policy. Sure, it's a personal preference, but what is it driven by? We don't know. And I'm surprised, a personal preference CAN be driven by prejudice. It's still a personal preference.

You and some other posters use the personal preference term as if it's some kind of mantra, a talisman that frees things from all further consideration. Let me be clear, no one should force a pornstar to do something she doesn't want to do, period and of course. But when a pornstar who as a matter of work sometimes fucks mopes but has a no-IR (and honestly, it's not no-IR, it's no-black-men) policy that comes from her personal preference, OK, that makes me wonder. And really, no-black-men...none? Never? No one? Ever? That doesn't mean anything? Really?

^ And as you said, it is a FREE country, if she wants to be racist, that's her right.

But in this instance, this example of pornography, and what the OP started this thread about - is about porn fans wanting something from another individual - in this case, wanting to watch a person of one ethnicity having sex with a person of another ethnicity. Individuals trying to impose their wants and wishes onto another.

Now I for one am quick to call out overt and aggressive racism. But this is not anywhere close to that. This is a person quietly not having sex with someone of another race. The issue really only becomes an issue when the porn fan IR thumpers make it one, and it is driven by their desires.

I don't see these performers on this website beating the drum against interracial sex. I don't see them outwardly and consistently making bigoted remarks. What I do see are the IR thumpers, many of them deactivated, trying to impose their wishes onto others. And that is when it becomes an issue

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Posted - Mar 15 2014 : 7:14PM

I don't see these performers on this website beating the drum against interracial sex. I don't see them outwardly and consistently making bigoted remarks. What I do see are the IR thumpers, many of them deactivated, trying to impose their wishes onto others. And that is when it becomes an issue

It has nothing to do with racist pornstars, NOTHING. Joneric is right, it's the agencies/agents fucking with these women telling then not to do interracial, because it may destroy their career (which is total hogwash). Most people commenting on the this issue have it completely wrong. It is agent/agency problem, NOT a pornstar problem.

^ This guy is a great example - Tobyedison / Psychoniff (who had all his posts and account deleted as Psychoniff) has made 12 posts in the 2+ months as Tobyedison. 11 of the 12 posts have been made in these threads...

Something tells me that you have seen a great many threads repeat in your tenure here. Mostly from new members, but sometimes from hard head idiots or people looking to stir a boiling pot.

However in the most forward industry that pretty much is rule and regulation free, I saw talent should do what they want. They should also be honest about what turns them on and what doesn't move them. I recall almost 15 years ago a new talent by the name of Tegan or Teagan was about to break down when she was continually asked about her IR intentions. In her case, 18 I get the flakiness in not telling the world what she wanted, but I have always felt it's easier to speak your mind and move on and with a fanbase of masturbators and and some times mental midgets, they know that pestering is a great way to feel like they are connecting with talent even in a negative way.

So in saying that, I can with all honesty say that there is a far better chance that I wouldn't watch Alexis if she ever did IR, same applies to Mary Cary and several other stars who have less than positive things to say about the act.

Tell you what Bill, how about we get together in 2017 and do this all over again.

killbillvol69 wrote:I feel like I'm stuck in an infinite loop with these threads sometimes.

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Posted - Mar 16 2014 : 2:19PM

rlankford wrote:^ This guy is a great example - Tobyedison / Psychoniff (who had all his posts and account deleted as Psychoniff) has made 12 posts in the 2+ months as Tobyedison. 11 of the 12 posts have been made in these threads...

rlankford wrote:^ This guy is a great example - Tobyedison / Psychoniff (who had all his posts and account deleted as Psychoniff) has made 12 posts in the 2+ months as Tobyedison. 11 of the 12 posts have been made in these threads...

You didn't even respond to my comment, why won't you respond to my comment?

I am not a troll I talk about everything concerning the Adult Entertainment Industry just look at my threads, I comment a lot in Racial threads that other Users start, but this particular thread was mainly about Alexis Texas and how I think its sickening for interviewers to constantly harass that Poor Women, I mean everyone bothers her from Interviewers to TMZ, this thread was also about double standards, but other Members turned it into a racial thread,Alexis is alright she is even in some Hip Hop and R&B music Videos.

I am not a troll I talk about everything concerning the Adult Entertainment Industry just look at my threads, I comment a lot in Racial threads that other Users start, but this particular thread was mainly about Alexis Texas and how I think its sickening for interviewers to constantly harass that Poor Women, I mean everyone bothers her from Interviewers to TMZ, this thread was also about double standards, but other Members turned it into a racial thread,Alexis is alright she is even in some Hip Hop and R&B music Videos.

Yeah, it must be annoying for her. But now that has beome the question to ask her so she'll probably be asked it even more as time goes on. The thing that must suck for her is I don't think there's an answer she can give that will put the whole thing to rest. Any answer she gives won't be good enough for some people.

I am not a troll I talk about everything concerning the Adult Entertainment Industry just look at my threads, I comment a lot in Racial threads that other Users start, but this particular thread was mainly about Alexis Texas and how I think its sickening for interviewers to constantly harass that Poor Women, I mean everyone bothers her from Interviewers to TMZ, this thread was also about double standards, but other Members turned it into a racial thread,Alexis is alright she is even in some Hip Hop and R&B music Videos.

I don't know why I'm surprised you can be so disingenuous. This topic was not turned into a racial thread, it started as a racial thread. Yes, double standards were the start of this topic but what were those double standards about? You've got it, they were double standards about race with your own theories about a performer's apparent double standards for good measure.

What about girls who did IR early in their career and then stopped doing it? How do they fit/rank on this "racist" scale? Does a girl get a free pass when she does a black guy even if she decides to not go back? I'm curious to the rules of all this stuff.

for me she has to do it just once to see if there is a reason to be paying for that certainperformers movies.

for example Christy Mack turned out to be a bad person but I payed for her content until I was presentedwith some knowledge about her and now feel duped, if it was possible I'd like to get my money back.

so don't come in here with such slick-funny questions cause not everybody deserves support just forgetting fucked.

I don't see how it is any business of anyone who another person wants to have sex with. It doesn't matter if it is completely public, like in a porn movie, or completely private, like on someone's bedroom.

Don't you think it's absurd that some people believe they have some say in who other people have ex with?

^ I don't think it's unreasonable for fans want to see girls paired up with certain guys or do certain sex acts or even request it. It's porn and that's what porn is about...seeing various girls have various kinds of sex. But I think it becomes too much or crosses the line when the girl says she has no interest doing certain things and fans keep badgering her to do whatever and/or resort to name calling. When it becomes obvious a girl isn't going to do certain things fans really need to accept that and move on. Yeah, for some fans seeing Alexis do IR or more anal or whatever would make them happy but it's obvious she doesn't have a desire to do IR even though she doesn't come right out and say it and anal must not be something she's that into because she chooses not to do it often. Pornstars are people with feelings and things they have to deal with not some sexbots to be programmed by fans with their lists of things they demand to see.

Is this just a porn thing? How could you tell who's racist based on the type of scenes they do? I would assume some women are coached before they officially get into porn and told to stay away from this or that. It could also have more to do with the parents/family of the pornstars you're talking about. My parents are pretty racist, but I'm not.

BradfordS wrote:Is this just a porn thing? How could you tell who's racist based on the type of scenes they do?

You can't.

It's been said so many times that there are and have always been white girls who don't do IR on camera but do it in their personal lives. Some girls don't do it because of it would cause drama with boyfriends, family or friends. Some girls haven't done it because of career choices like working for studios that don't do much or any IR or they're waiting for what they feel would be the best time to do it. Some girls careers are doing just fine not doing it's not a top career priority.

BumBum wrote:I don't see how it is any business of anyone who another person wants to have sex with. It doesn't matter if it is completely public, like in a porn movie, or completely private, like on someone's bedroom.

Don't you think it's absurd that some people believe they have some say in who other people have ex with?

Who Cares! It doesn't matter there are plenty of stars who love interracial on/off screen it's okay to fantasize but it's enough women that do interracial who can motivate you guys!

What I want to know is who anointed Alexis Texas as white girl messiah? She's not the most attractive woman in the biz. She doesn't have the best ass in the biz and she is certainly not the best performer. What she is, is a woman who has so far refused to do a black man on camera and I think she get's far too much attention for it. Realistically, on that note, I could name at least 5 current women in the industry that I would much rather see do IR than Alexis.

Personally I think Alexis is the iPad of the industry. Everybody wants her, but doesn't know why and she is overrated and overpriced. People used to go nuts about Janine and Julia Ann. I thought Janine's IR scenes sucked and to this day, I find Julia Ann luke warm at best because of how she handled her reluctance to do IR.

You can't dodge then expect a warm reception once your career is on the slide and you want to expand your fan base.

^ nothing but the truth, I also don't know whats the big hoopla about Alexis or Rachel Starr.Rachel at least got a tight body, but Alwxis is in the 5.5 or 6 out of 10 range.

about Julia Ann, I don't know the details man, but wasn't she just a g/g or occasional 15 min b/gperformer during her younger years? If so then I wouldn't hold that against her that she didn't do ir,cause the later years is the ones that will be remembered from her career.

Julia Ann did IR when still under contract with Wicked one of them was anal too, also I can't see any reluctance in doing IR , quite the contrary she's a kisser but she kisses her partner more often when he's black see any of her scenes with Sean Michaels or Mandingo or even her Gangbanged scene.Also she was one of the first superstars to shoot for dogfart and was maybe the first blowbang they shot

i do kind of agree julia ann seemed to be more into the black guys as far as janine she love getting rimmed none of the black guys did that and she loves to kiss she didn't do that with the black guys which maybe makes me realize my fantasy girl janine wasn't really into it oh well still love her and wish she would comeback and do more black guys and get the shit rimmed out of her

R Star is a dime, but fuck it, don't want to do IR, I could give a fuck. I ran across a picture of Savannah the other day and I couldn't help but realize that she was pretty much an average looking girl with a hair and makeup crew. She also met with her own demise because she was self involved. Talent get old, ugly and fat and I put money on not doing IR as being a regret of the industries top dodgers.

I've read this thread. It's interesting that I've seen 'the complexity of human nature' brought up as a way of understanding porn starlets that have a no-blacks policy. But knowledge of the complexity of human nature should prompt some of these posters who defend the no-blacks policy to preface their statements with 'I understand why it bothers you but...'

If you don't preface your statement with that, then I regret to inform you that you have little or no knowledge of the complexity of human nature.

If I walk down the street and see a house with 10 chicks living in it that has a sign out front that says "free blowjobs for everyone, call for appointment...as long as you ain't considered black" that sign will fuck with me. Those of you who are students of the complexities of human nature should already know that.

If anybody shouldn't give a fuck about Alexis Texas, its me. Her [mod edit: comment removed. See the ADT forum etiquette, 3rd paragraph.] and I'm not the ass guy that most black dudes are. But I do give a fuck because of the complexities of human nature.