Where is your "persistent lingering contrail" theory, now?

I'm just curious to know, as to why these planes, flying back and forth, have normal contrails, now?

How come those
"persistent lingering contrails" are not happening??? THIS is WHAT WAS happening, ALL THE TIME; even during 80 degree weather.

THIS IS WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON, in the same temperature, for the past week or so.

Yes, i know that
the temps on the ground are different, than the temps at 30,000 feet; but WHY are there no "persistent lingering contrails"? Shouldn't there be???
Isn't it a bit strange to see "persistent lingering contrails", on a perfectly blue day; when, on a hazy day, these planes are leaving normal
condensation trails? I thought the new jet fuel was making those "persistent lingering contrails"; or was it the effects of global warming, mixed
with the jet fuel that caused them??? Or maybe, those "chemtrails" were made because of an approaching storm front???

What are contrails?

A contrail is the condensation trail that is left behind by a passing jet plane. Contrails are clouds, usually cirrus, formed when water vapor
condenses and freezes around small particles (aerosols) that exist in aircraft exhaust. Some of that water vapor comes from the air around the plane;
and, some is added by the exhaust of the aircraft. The exhaust of an aircraft contains both gas (vapor) and solid particles. Both of these are
important in the formation of contrails. Some elements of the exhaust gasses are not involved in contrail formation but do constitute air pollution.
Emissions include carbon dioxide, water vapor, nitrogen oxides, carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons such as methane, sulfates, and soot and metal
particles.

What Conditions Must Be Present for Contrails to Be Formed?

This trail of clouds normally forms at very high altitudes (usually above 26,000
ft) where the air is extremely cold (less than -40ºC). The temperature needed to create contrails depends on the ambient air pressure, temperature
and humidity outside of the aircraft, and on the ratio of water vapor and heat released into the atmosphere by the aircraft exhaust. That is why
sometimes you can see them and sometimes you can’t. This cloud formation is similar to the cloud you see on cold days when you exhale and "see your
breath."

In order for a contrail to form, there must be enough moisture in the high levels of the atmosphere for the ice crystals to form around the airplane
exhaust. If the upper atmosphere is very dry, contrails will not easily form, or will be of the short-lived type. Persistent contrails can last for
hours to days, and spread over thousands of square kilometers, becoming indistinguishable from naturally occurring cirrus clouds.

So, what i
should believe is that up until, about a week ago, there was enough moisture in the atmosphere, to form those "persistent lingering contrails"; and
suddenly, there's not??? I find that highly unlikely; especially after seeing those long trails occur, all the time, for 3 years. Very rarely had i
seen "condensation trails", until now. So, what's changed???

Persistant spreading trails have never 'always' happened, nobody trying to explain it to you has ever said anything other than you need temperature
and humidity to be right and these conditions are variable.

You pretending not to have ever heard of this does not make any difference.

Not every jet in the sky creates those lingering trails. Depending on where you are on the planet, there may be a lot of reasons.....no need to
currently manipulate the weather, the military isn't using chaff as training, upper air currents are quite dry and no ice is forming...it could be
anything. Also, sometimes even contrails linger. That's the beauty of using jet aircraft to spray things in the sky. Contrails have existed as
long as there have been high flying jet aircraft.

Wunderkind actually said the opposite, referring to short trails in hazy skies, but isn't considering that the haze might not be where the trails are
being left. The concept of looking 'through' haze rather than 'at' haze being apparently beyond his grasp.

Do you see any clouds? Hmmm. I wonder why not? You have seen clouds in your sky before right?

I think it's a government conspiracy. They took yer clouds. "dey took yer clouds"

I know that you won't trust anyone else to tell you this, but in the morning, check out this sooper secret way we communicate. We call it
.......wait for it......"the weather forecast". Now they aren't always right, but sometimes they say things like "mostly sunny" or "mostly
cloudy", how do they know that? MAGIC! no,.......perhaps they use............//cue really scary music//.....science. (and no, they didn't need
chemistry for this part)

The weather several thousand feet up is nearly always entirely different from the ground. What is the temperature, humidity, and particulate levels at
30,000 feet over where you are? Knowing that information would definitely give you half the information you need to decide whether they are contrails
or chemtrails.

Since chemtrail chemicals all fall the to the ground all you have to do is look at your soil for a complete history of chemtrail activity where you
live. A good chemist could analyze it and let you know.

So far, nobody I know of has put their money where there mouth is and taken the steps to prove the chemtrail activity.

I don't think every contrail is a chemtrail but think about it a second. They say the HAARP device built in Alaska is to I believe heat up? the
ionosphere, turning it into a giant antenna.

Why the need for a giant antenna? I call a local number for my cable co. and can be hooked up to somebody in India in no time. I understand the
military isnt using cell phones and land lines. HAM radio has bounced off the ionosphere for decades.

So if you don't want your signal to "bounce" off the ionosphere but want to direct it, why not localize the heat in the ionosphere by seeding it
with something? Something to reflect the heat and keep it in.

Boy, all the playas came to play on this thread. Why? You want me to believe that "all of a sudden" after 3 years, the atmosphere is different,
now? Give it up. I'm talking what i've seen OVER THE YEARS. VERY RARELY had i seen NORMAL CONDENSATION TRAILS. They were ALWAYS
loooooooooooooooong trails. What part don't you understand??? And don't give me that crap about planes being so high, they're not visible. At
that altitude, those lines are visible. So, what's changed??? I've experienced days like we've had, over the past week; but planes were still
leaving these "persistent lingering contrails". There seems to be a bunch of inconsistencies with all of your "stories".

Perhaps you don't get it either. WHY AREN'T HEY HAPPENING NOW??? Where are they? There's been lots and lots of planes, flying around. Not
1 has left a "persistent lingering contrail" as posted in my thread. NOT 1. Why were they happening, YEAR ROUND, for the past 3 years, and
now....NOTHING?

Go check your "chemtrail" debunking manual, and get back with me, with more BUNK!

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