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12-12-2012 02:18 PM

eik2001

They should have just fired them all like they did the air traffic controllers in the early 80's. Bring in some temp workers from overseas to train the new replacement workers.

No documentation, just first hand experience dealing with the clerks in the SF bay area. They had to get by doing whatever work they could find until they were middle aged and their dad's retired so they could have that job. I

I grew up in a port town. The saying on the railroad and the port authority, "If you're not related, it's who you know or who you bl**.
I saw this first hand, when ever I needed a few extra bucks, I called my cousin. I went to work when others were waiting on the benches. The same held true with the railroad. 4 of my good buds went on the railroad, they made engineer...after their dads retired. mucho dinero for any of those jobs.

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In the long run we all know who ends up with the short straw when this crap happens, don't we Dan???

Will this affect the price of breakfast burritos? (inside joke there)

I hope not, the chiles this time of year are from Mexico.

12-01-2012 05:00 PM

ogre

out source their jobs, union scum
i wish this off topic crap wouldn't list when you do a new posts search
same guys whining about non hotrod stuff

all the west coast ports will be in big trouble 2014 the panima canal will be able to handel the supper size ships,this will eliminate 60%+ frt for west coast L A to vancouver canada.the artical claims will shorten delivery to east by 3 to 4 days.so the long shore men coud get a wake up

12-01-2012 04:01 PM

deckofficer

poncho,

Thanks for all the updates and links. I would be following it more closely if I was still working in the shipping industry. In the past when the clerks went out on strike, nobody crossed the picket lines.

1:30pm | Talks between shipping companies and striking clerical workers at the Ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles resumed today, though both sides are reportedly frustrated at the lack of progress. Negotiators began another bargaining session at 1:00pm today.

Clerical workers have been on strike now for six days, though there has been no apparent effect on shipping traffic thus far.

The dispute comes over job security, as employees are worried that their positions could be outsourced and are asking for a guarantee that they are safe. Employers told the Associated Press that such a request isn't fair. From a stor

75 Members of ILWU's clerical unit shut down the busiest Pier 400 but no work stoppage was reported at Long Beach's part of the nation's busiest shipping basin.

12-01-2012 03:17 PM

gearheadslife

12-01-2012 03:17 PM

deckofficer

No documentation, just first hand experience dealing with the clerks in the SF bay area. They had to get by doing whatever work they could find until they were middle aged and their dad's retired so they could have that job. I talked to a new gal in her 20's and made the mistake of asking how she got her job, the reply "my dad passed last month". In the ports this is a time honored tradition, from the days that working the ports was a back breaking job, but still very good paying, to today with containerized freight.

I find it hard to believe that a union card can get passed from father to son like that in this day and age. ....Have you got documentation of this?

12-01-2012 02:31 PM

wretched ratchet

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Originally Posted by dinger

Much of that imported stuff will be food, bananas, fresh fruit and veggies from Chile and other S. American countries, time will be of the essence to unload. People want fresh products all year long. If you have a load of fresh grapes and stone-fruit from Chile, Bananas from Ecuador, they can't sit out in the harbor very long. Prices in the stores will shoot up, anything spoiled will bring a lawsuit from the insurance companies.

The 99 Cent store crap will wait til spring, might make a little bit of a shortfall in the holiday season.

In the long run we all know who ends up with the short straw when this crap happens, don't we Dan???

Will this affect the price of breakfast burritos? (inside joke there)

12-01-2012 02:29 PM

deckofficer

dinger,

Back in 1995 when Mexico privatized their railroads, there was a push to make Mexico the land bridge to Europe. Texas would become a larger point of entry for goods destined for the States via Mexican rail service. This is why the clerk's strike bothers me. These clerks have cushy jobs because their fathers had the same jobs and passed their union card on to them. For a group of over paid clerks (about 70) to shut down two major ports will just lead to the export of even more jobs. There are so many jobs tied to these ports it would be a shame to lose them to Mexico, but it will happen.

12-01-2012 02:15 PM

dinger

Much of that imported stuff will be food, bananas, fresh fruit and veggies from Chile and other S. American countries, time will be of the essence to unload. People want fresh products all year long. If you have a load of fresh grapes and stone-fruit from Chile, Bananas from Ecuador, they can't sit out in the harbor very long. Prices in the stores will shoot up, anything spoiled will bring a lawsuit from the insurance companies.

The 99 Cent store crap will wait til spring, might make a little bit of a shortfall in the holiday season.

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