Post by sharingtheriches on May 8, 2014 8:51:32 GMT -5

-------------It's good to see old workers who are unable to take care of themselves being taken care of by the F&W, but I don't see how SSI & Medicaid squares with say Matthew 6, if they put their complete fate in the hands of god. I have no problem with anyone who qualifies getting SSI and the much larger Medicaid benefit. I wish all the old and homeless had it so good.

I also wonder how god deals with senility. Some old people curse and are vulgar when senility sets in. When it happened to a worker, do they go to hell for these acts beyond their control?

The cursing sister worker I knew definitely went to heaven, according to the overseer at her funeral. I was thankful for that, because my juvenile sense of humor thrived on her rants.

I don't mind a society looking after its old people. Societies have done that in one way or another since the beginning of time. What I have a problem with is the fact that in this country it is welfare for those who would starve to death otherwise.

Which creates another problem. Workers are always telling people not to accept welfare, and to get off it if at all possible. And they've been known, at least in this country, to advise friends not to give help to other needy friends. Yet they have no problem accepting government funds when they need it themselves. But I expect none of them have their names on the title to the rest home.

This is perhaps some of the most apparent inconsistencies in the 2x2 religion! The workers can do about anything they so well please and it is a-ok! But let the friends even entertain such an idea, then the friend doing so, isn't a very good "Christian"!

This, of course, comes from the years of older workers not having to have had to obtain their own wages to maintain health, heart and home and anyone that is dependent upon them, the older workers seem to sometimes lose touch with reality! But then again, when age and bad health comes down on them, then the workers who are stuck with those out-of-the-circle workers are quick to find the helps available or at least ask some of the friends to find such helps!

Post by BobWilliston on May 8, 2014 16:34:30 GMT -5

The cursing sister worker I knew definitely went to heaven, according to the overseer at her funeral. I was thankful for that, because my juvenile sense of humor thrived on her rants.

I don't mind a society looking after its old people. Societies have done that in one way or another since the beginning of time. What I have a problem with is the fact that in this country it is welfare for those who would starve to death otherwise.

Which creates another problem. Workers are always telling people not to accept welfare, and to get off it if at all possible. And they've been known, at least in this country, to advise friends not to give help to other needy friends. Yet they have no problem accepting government funds when they need it themselves. But I expect none of them have their names on the title to the rest home.

This is perhaps some of the most apparent inconsistencies in the 2x2 religion! The workers can do about anything they so well please and it is a-ok! But let the friends even entertain such an idea, then the friend doing so, isn't a very good "Christian"!

This, of course, comes from the years of older workers not having to have had to obtain their own wages to maintain health, heart and home and anyone that is dependent upon them, the older workers seem to sometimes lose touch with reality! But then again, when age and bad health comes down on them, then the workers who are stuck with those out-of-the-circle workers are quick to find the helps available or at least ask some of the friends to find such helps!

I know of one sister worker who requested permission from her overseer to have psychological help to enable her to continue in the work. The overseer allowed it on one condition -- that it be paid for in public funds.

But an abandoned mother and with 4 children is supposed to get herself off public assistance. I pay taxes to help those kinds of people, and the workers don't. I have long considered that an affront to me personally, because I consider my assistance to the needy to be my business and not the workers'.

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