I want to hear from Perfect Poster on why Miguel should win the MVP after presenting "advanced" metrics like WAR, BABIP, etc,. on a consistent basis, which makes me believe you are a firm believer in them holding more water than the older, standard statistics. If that is the case, why should Cabrera be the MVP? Or do you only use those statistics when they suit your argument?

For the record, based on War in 2011, Ben Zobrist should have been the MVP.

I want to hear from Perfect Poster on why Miguel should win the MVP after presenting "advanced" metrics like WAR, BABIP, etc,. on a consistent basis, which makes me believe you are a firm believer in them holding more water than the older, standard statistics. If that is the case, why should Cabrera be the MVP? Or do you only use those statistics when they suit your argument?

For the record, based on War in 2011, Ben Zobrist should have been the MVP.

Show me where I said Cabrera should be MVP. I've been Trout for a while. Here's my post listing you my top 5 MVP guys. Nothing has changed in those 2 weeks for me to give it to Cabrera, although I think he will.

Stunning, PP. I didn't expect you to stick to your guns when it came to any topic concerning your home town hero. I am impressed.

An MVP is nice and a TC is indeed rare, but it's not like the Tigers aren't home to the *Still current for another 3 hours* reigning MVP in JV. I'd like to see Miggy get one and I do think he'll get it, he just wouldn't be my vote.