This has been on my mind but when does this game take place in the Ace Attorney universe? Does it take place before Apollo Justice since he has his attorney badge and he is with Maya. Or is it after Apollo Justice and shortly before the events of Dual Destinies as when the game starts he is in Europe, I am more so on the idea that it takes place after since he tells Apollo in Dual Destinies that he was in Europe where he met Athena. So I am just wondering where does this all fit?

The game pretty clearly takes place before AJ, going by Maya's age and Phoenix having his badge. If memory serves Maya says "Zvarri" at one point, so that puts it after 3-2. So it's either in one of the gaps between cases in T&T or between T&T and Phoenix's disbarment.

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Vs Phoenix Wright has to be after Diabolical Box because Layton and Luke

Spoiler: Diabolical Box Spoiler

meet the real Inspector Chelmey in the beginning of Diabolical Box

and the fact that Luke is wearing his clothes from the original trilogy.

If this game was canon, it would take place in the years 2018-2019 because of Maya saying "Zvarri!", but since there isn't a firm date of when Vs Phoenix Wright takes place, a date can't be placed except that the game takes place before February 2019, the date of Bridge to Turnabout.

And there you go, a timeline explanation for Vs Phoenix Wright, I hope I helped!

Vs Phoenix Wright has to be after Diabolical Box because Layton and Luke

Spoiler: Diabolical Box Spoiler

meet the real Inspector Chelmey in the beginning of Diabolical Box

and the fact that Luke is wearing his clothes from the original trilogy.

If this game was canon, it would take place in the years 2018-2019 because of Maya saying "Zvarri!", but since there isn't a firm date of when Vs Phoenix Wright takes place, a date can't be placed except that the game takes place before February 2019, the date of Bridge to Turnabout.

And there you go, a timeline explanation for Vs Phoenix Wright, I hope I helped!

This is generally what I've found but I disagree with your point about it taking place BEFORE Bridge to the Turnabout. It seems like it would take place after Bridge to the Turnabout, possibly in the last month before Phoenix loses his badge. We know that Maya doesn't become Master of Kurain for at least another year (according to the date from JFA) but she's not present at Phoenix's last trial. I don't know if DD does anything to explain this.

Anyway, it's possible that it takes place before, but it seems more likely its after considering they don't mention anything about it in 3-5. Although personally, I'm leaning towards viewing it as non-canon

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based on the fact it apparently doesn't "explain" or give a "logical", "real world" explanation for the magic book teleporting them places, like "it was just a dream" or "there's some strange X-Files stuff going on". Apparently they really did go through a magic book, so either it's canon and Phoenix just kept on living his normal life after this without even telling anyone about it or it's non canon. Or it is canon, and it will be revealed that magic teleporting books do exist when Capcom and Cyan announce Phoenix Wright Vs. Myst in 2017.

Vs Phoenix Wright has to be after Diabolical Box because Layton and Luke

Spoiler: Diabolical Box Spoiler

meet the real Inspector Chelmey in the beginning of Diabolical Box

and the fact that Luke is wearing his clothes from the original trilogy.

If this game was canon, it would take place in the years 2018-2019 because of Maya saying "Zvarri!", but since there isn't a firm date of when Vs Phoenix Wright takes place, a date can't be placed except that the game takes place before February 2019, the date of Bridge to Turnabout.

And there you go, a timeline explanation for Vs Phoenix Wright, I hope I helped!

This is generally what I've found but I disagree with your point about it taking place BEFORE Bridge to the Turnabout. It seems like it would take place after Bridge to the Turnabout, possibly in the last month before Phoenix loses his badge. We know that Maya doesn't become Master of Kurain for at least another year (according to the date from JFA) but she's not present at Phoenix's last trial. I don't know if DD does anything to explain this.

Anyway, it's possible that it takes place before, but it seems more likely its after considering they don't mention anything about it in 3-5. Although personally, I'm leaning towards viewing it as non-canon

Spoiler:

based on the fact it apparently doesn't "explain" or give a "logical", "real world" explanation for the magic book teleporting them places, like "it was just a dream" or "there's some strange X-Files stuff going on". Apparently they really did go through a magic book, so either it's canon and Phoenix just kept on living his normal life after this without even telling anyone about it or it's non canon. Or it is canon, and it will be revealed that magic teleporting books do exist when Capcom and Cyan announce Phoenix Wright Vs. Myst in 2017.

Spoiler: Professor Layton Vs Phoenix Wright

Actually, you're right, it has to be after 3-5 because up until 3-5, Edgeworth was abroad, and he shows up in PLVSAA, so the game needs to take place after 3-5 but before Phoenix's last case which is a few months later

Well I am starting to think this game may not be canon in the Ace Attorney universe...if it is then Wright has some explaining to do.

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This game obviously takes place after Trials and Tribulations due to Maya saying Zivari! and the special episode reference to Godot and how he never has more than 17 cups of coffee in a trial. In the first special episode Nick said an entire year had passed since the events of the game, and he was still donning his attorney's badge. That makes it the year 2020. At this point Wright has since been disbarred but acts if though he is still a lawyer. Now this brings me to one of three conclusions. This game is just not canon at all and the special episodes are just silly things that utterly destroy the 4th wall and should have no baring on the canon. The second conclusion I can come to is maybe Wright is still able to practice law in some circles and still has ties to the Legal League of Attorneys and he is able to practice law abroad. The third one is that this game takes place sometime during the events of Dual Destinies or sometime after,however that is the least likely out of all of them because Maya still refers to herself as a Spirit Medium in training and it would contradict the Layton time line...so all in all my head hurts.

The special episodes aren't canon so you can't really include that.Phoenix did say he went to Europe a lot in DD, when i read that this is the first thing that came to mind.I like to think that in those visits he takes a bit of time to visit Layton.

I think it may take place in between the second and third cases of AA3. Which would kind of explain something that bugged me from AA3, you'd think Phoenix would have known about the impersonator sooner than when he got the info from Gumshoe, so maybe he was in London in that time?

If the game is canon, then it definitely takes place after "Bridge to the Turnabout" because:

Spoiler: Chapter 6 spoiler (less spoilery edition)

There's a comment on some statues in the game looking like the Ami Fey statue in Hazakura Temple.

Spoiler: Chapter 6 spoiler (more spoilery edition)

Maya will say: "Hey! Check out all those statues! These sorta remind me of the statue of Ami Fey in the Hazakura Temple" if you examine the statues in the small room in the ruins.

Spoiler: Overall plot spoiler

The ending of the game where it is revealed that magic isn't real certainly makes it not incomparable with the Ace Attorney universe. The fact that it's never mentioned again in-game can be hand-waved by saying that either nobody ever asked, or that they were told off-screen.

It would therefore have to fit somewhere in the period between ''Bridge to the Turnabout'' (February 10, 2019) and Zak Gramarye's trial (April 19), but also taking into account Maya and Wright's cameo appearances in the Edgeworth games (i.e., March 13 and April 6). So basically either mid-to-late February or mid-to-late March of 2019.

The fact that Maya says 'Zvarri' may or may not be a reference to Luke Atmey. Zvarri is a real word, you know, not just a catchphrase...But I do see your point. Like I said, it MAY OR MAY NOT BE a reference.

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I TAKE IT BACK. I read an article once explaining how Zvarri is a real word, but then the original author of the article put up another article saying that he was a troll, and then he took down both articles.

Ugh. Sorry. Zvarri isn't a word, so just ignore that other post.

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As of timeline in Ace Attorney universe, it's obvious that it belongs between Trials and Tribulations and Apollo Justice due to the fact that Maya says Zvarri and references Godot in a special episode, and he still has his badge.

As of timeline in Professor Layton universe, this is still shady but is slightly obvious that it happens between the end of Curious Village and the beginning of Unwound(Lost) Future. Luke has his blue sweater on, which means it happens after Azran Legacy. And, having played the Azran Legacy, it seems to be that there isn't much time between the end of Azran Legacy and begining of Curious Village. And since Luke leaves right after Unwound Future, so that's out of the question. To me, personally, I think it happened between Diabolical Box and Unwound Future.

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Possibly sometime during one of the Investigations games.

That'd have to be Ace Attorney Investigations 2, considering Phoenix makes two cameos in the first one. This, of course, would also mean that AAI2 takes place between Trials and Tribulations and Apollo Justice.

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As of timeline in Ace Attorney universe, it's obvious that it belongs between Trials and Tribulations and Apollo Justice due to the fact that Maya says Zvarri and references Godot in a special episode, and he still has his badge.

As of timeline in Professor Layton universe, this is still shady but is slightly obvious that it happens between the end of Curious Village and the beginning of Unwound(Lost) Future. Luke has his blue sweater on, which means it happens after Azran Legacy. And, having played the Azran Legacy, it seems to be that there isn't much time between the end of Azran Legacy and begining of Curious Village. And since Luke leaves right after Unwound Future, so that's out of the question. To me, personally, I think it happened between Diabolical Box and Unwound Future.

Hold on..

Spoiler: Not so fast

If I recall correctly, Layton and Luke only met the real Chelmey in Diabolical Box and onwards, which means it has to be after Diabolical Box.

If I recall correctly, Layton and Luke only met the real Chelmey in Diabolical Box and onwards, which means it has to be after Diabolical Box.

Well then, there you go. It happened between T&T - AJ for Ace Attorney and it happened between Diabolical Box and Unwound Future for Prof. Layton, everyone.(PS. Someone needs to make a Professor Layton smiley right now)

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Phoenix and Maya apparently spent five years in Labyrinthia. How is this explained? Does time pass slower there?

Naw. They were just on drugs.

But as a real answer:

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They were brainwashed by Darklaw when she was forced to bring them to Labyrinthia, hence everyone thought they had been around for five years. They had just actually been there for a day or two. During the trial, Phoenix regains his memories exactly how he does in Case 1 in Justice for All. And how Maya regains her memories and stuff? Never got explained...

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Actually,Maya references Hazakura temple late game,so it takes place after 3-5. In the Layton universe though,I'm not sure.

Spoiler: Layton trilogy original

it takes place before the third game as Luke is still there,and it takes place after the second game since we see the real Inspector Chelmey at the start. But where's Flora? And why do they say something about going on another quest at the end? They can't be referring to the third game,since they had no idea what was going to transpire. Maybe Clive's note? I dunno. Still pretty tricky to pinpoint.

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