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Re: Flashback...Iowa State vs Kansas 2005

Black Saturday. urgghh. With the kick of a ball, one programs' fortunes we're changed for the better, one for the much worse. (obviously coaching/plan/etc. had more to do with this than just the kick(s))

I'm not one to dwell in the past, but I think it should be engrained in every player, coach, and fans mind just how close we were and that we should not accept being a doormat. We can succeed at this level.

(I just hope that 2-year span wasn't our one golden chance to change our status in the Big 12 & college football)

Re: Flashback...Iowa State vs Kansas 2005

The defense on that 2005 team had an unbelievable knack to get turnovers. If the offense could have been a little better. They would have won 10 games that year. Off the top of my head they lost @ NU in OT in a game they were in control of, at MU in OT (or double OT) in a 14 point lead at the end and the @ KU game obviously.

Re: Flashback...Iowa State vs Kansas 2005

As a Cyclone fan, this was hard to watch, but I would hope the current players realize that it is possible to succeed in the Big12 at Iowa State. That entire 2005 season could have been the best season if a few plays would have went the other way.

Re: Flashback...Iowa State vs Kansas 2005

It's weird to watch that, even as a KU fan. If KU had lost that Mangino might not have been around long enough to turn the program around. Plus we had no business winning that game. You guys had outplayed us all day and then you got conservative with the lead and let us back in it. From that point on KU has spent tons of money on football and now look like they are two years away from completely redoing the stadium and yes finally getting rid of that track. I was at KU's open practice last week and after watching that clip it really shows me how much Mangino has upgraded the speed on his football team. I'm not sure anybody on that team could see the field today.

Hard to believe Mangino may have not survived at KU if ISU wouldn't have stopped throwing the ball against us in the 4th quarter. But it also shows you guys how quickly you can come back and start winning games again.

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