Kolb wants to start or he wants out of Philly

Eagles quarterback Kevin Kolb said all the right things this season and couldn’t have been more supportive of Michael Vick. Now that the season is over, another approach is being used.

Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer credits a source that says Kolb wants out if the Eagles bring back Vick as a starter. Heck, the source may as well be Kolb’s post-game quotes. He doesn’t try to hide his feelings.

“I love it here, as everybody knows,” Kolb said. “My family’s settled in here. I would love to be starting here. But I want to be starting somewhere.”

Kolb was asked if he could handle another season as a backup in Philadelphia.

“I can’t answer that question,” Kolb said.

It didn’t take long for the offseason quarterback drama to start in Philly again, did it? We suspect this episode will drag on a while because the Eagles probably don’t want to let go Kolb go.

68 responses to “Kolb wants to start or he wants out of Philly”

Can’t blame him. He’s good enough to be starting for plenty of teams, Dolphins, 9ers, etc. But unless the Eagles get a damned good offer for him, they’re more than happy to let him be a very good backup. He’s still under contract.

Kevin was the heir apparent when McNabb was to leave & waited for his turn until the team brought in a shiny new toy in Vick.

A couple of simple things here:

Vick is nothing like Kolb & is so much more exciting to watch.

Kolb playing starting QB versus Vick is like watching the younglings trying to challenge Darth Vader in the temple.

Andy Reid looks like he got a Red Rider BB gun for Christmas as a child everytime Vick runs the ball, Kolb turns him into bad Santa.

I wish Kolb well & see him going to the Dolphins for a few reasons, one of them is that they like bringing in boring QB’s & another is they have the worst QB’s in the league. Henne is a back-up at best & Chad P. has a injury list longer than “The Wrestler”. Bring on the dancing girls, Miami will have a decent starter.

I still think it would be in the Eagles best interest to sign him long term, and let Vick walk. Vicks play is cute and all, and is such a good story (please) but when hes pressured hes the same old Vick we saw in Atlanta.

As far as Kolbs Qb rating, thats what happens when your coming off the bench smart guy. Had he started all season it probably would have been s different story

We all pretty much know barring a lockout or Vick signing elsewhere, Kolb will be traded this off-season, the question is where will he go, and how much will the Eagles get in return.

I suspect there will be quite a few teams lining up to get him. The 49ers (who may very well be in a position with the Rams to dominate the NFC West for a few years given how pathetic that division is) look to be the front-runners to get Kolb, with the Cardinals (if the Cards don’t go for McNabb) not too far behind and even the Seahawks if Matt Hasslebeck leaves among those looking to get Kolb. Eagles could very well wind up getting a first-rounder or trading Kolb and their own pick to move up in the first round, possibly even into the upper portion of the first round of the draft.

Michael Vick must get a new contract. He deserves one after he led us to the playoffs this year even though any other qb would have fell to 6-10 with that offensive line and terrible defense. Of course it was only going to be a matter of time until defenses started to figure out how to stop the main guy in our offense lol. We cant blame Vick for that though. Lets blame Andy Reid for never establishing a run game even though we have 2 great runningbacks. (Ok, Jerome Harrison may not be considered GREAT but he played his heart out this season and made big plays during most of his opportunities).

We shouldn’t hold Kevin back either. Lets see what we can get for him and make something work. We need to fix our offensive line and we need a way better defensive. We need work on our defensive line, linebackers, and defensive backs. Every position needs to be evaluated on defense.

I’m on the fence about Kolb when thinking about him coming to the 49ers. On one hand I’m not sure he’s played enough to really know what kind of QB he can be, but so far he hasn’t done anything that shouts like he would be a better option then keeping Alex Smith around for another year (shudder).

Kolb is wildly inconsistent from week to week. For instance in week 6 he had an amazing game against Atlanta, completing almost 80% of his passes, 23-29, with 3 tds and 1 int. On the other hand the next week he had a terrible game against Tennessee where he threw only 54% complete at 26-48 with 1 td and 1 int. His rating this year (76.1) is lower then both Troy Smith’s (77.8) and Alex Smith’s (82.1). Based only on that I would have to say that he wouldn’t be worth a trade, especially since he has a heftier salary.

Kolb has an opportunity to be a solid starter. He hasn’t had the best of opportunities, nor the best of teachers [McNabb and Reid]. I believe he will be a decent starter somewhere, at some point in his career, he just needs the correct situation with the right coach. The Eagles thought enough of him to trade away the only good QB they have had since Cunningham. This means there is something there. I suspect if Vick asks for a huge contract, the Eagles will let him walk and Kolb will be the starter, but if Vick is reasonable and understands he still has yet to prove himself, they will resign Vick and Kolb will be traded. The Eagles can probably get a late-2nd early 3rd pick for Kolb.

I doubt that Vick can keep his enormous ego in check though, and will ask for a 100+ million dollar contract. For that, the Eagles will allow him to leave.

Mark my words… Vick will NOT put up these kinds of numbers again, especially if he stays in the NFC East.

Why are people mad at this? The man wants to play, plain and simple. You don’t join the NFL to be a backup. He knows Vick will start next year, which is why he is trying to back out now and try to get some teams to give him a look. Good for him and good luck.

Kolb isn’t that great. But apparently, Vick isn’t God like everyone thought he was either.

Time to go back to plan A. Swallow your pride and let Vick go. Kolb is young and looks like the next Aaron Rodgers. You set his career back a year by being greedy and selfish, but he claims to want to stay, he has a winning record and he’s under contract.

Sure, that means Vick will start for another team next year, and he will be flashy and win a couple games with his feet for his new team and you will feel like a jealous ex-boyfriend and start to question your choice, but just remind yourself that young proven talent is better than old proven talent.

You thought Vick was the missing piece. You thought Vick was going to win you your first Super Bowl. But you were wrong. In all honesty and hindsight, McNabb probably would have taken you further in the playoffs, so switching to Vick was a net loss, although it was an exciting affair.

So the Eagles traded their second round pick away to the Cowgirls basically for : Kolb and Stew Bradley.

Stew has been ok but has also gotten injured a few times now, while Kolb might not even warrant a second round pick at this point.

I like Kolb a lot, but he has never had an opportunity to prove he is a decent QB in this league and it doesn’t look like he ever will. Personally I hope he is traded just so the Eagles can get some value from him.

Make fun of Kolb all you want, but he would look like Joe Montana compared to anything we have at QB Here in Charlotte, NC! Would you eagles guys be willing to part with Kolb to have Steve smith to put in the slot with Maclin and Jackson, Deangelo Williams go with Mccoy that would be a good 1-2 punch and perhaps a 3rd rounder. Does that sound like something the Eagles would take to deal Kolb in the final year of the deal? Because I know we would be willing to give that up for him! I am asking you Eagles fans because you know Reid and you team better than I ever would, I had heard 2 first rounders thats extreme and they will never get that for Kolb in the final year of his deal!

>>So the Eagles traded their second round pick away to the Cowgirls basically for : Kolb and Stew Bradley.>>

>>Stew has been ok but has also gotten injured a few times now, while Kolb might not even warrant a second round pick at this point.>>

Kolb may very well allow the Eagles to move up in the draft into the top 10. Assuming no lockout or Vick signing elsewhere, there will be several teams looking to get Kolb. As said upthread and noted elsewhere, Kolb and the Eagles own first rounder to the 49ers for their first and second round picks sounds about right. That would be a considerable net profit on the pick the Eagles traded to the Cowboys, getting to move up 14-16 spots in the first round AND getting a high second rounder as well.

As a Dolfan there is no way in hell I would support trading for Kolb. Scenes from the AJ Feeley trade comes to mind. Same situation. Young QB that showed some promise in spot duty as the starter. If any team trades for him it better be in the west coast offense. I hope my Fins dont repeat the same mistake as years past.

Kolb is a competitive guy so you can hardly fault him for saying what he did. But for anybody who thinks the dog-killer sociopath is the answer at qB, Exhibit A is the last 6 games of this season. He got hit and hurt, had little success recognizing blitz packages, and blew up under pressure (Vikings and Packer games) when winning really meant something.

And don’t discount karma, as long as any team employees Vick, bad things will follow.

>>I still think it would be in the Eagles best interest to sign him long term, and let Vick walk. Vicks play is cute and all, and is such a good story (please) but when hes pressured hes the same old Vick we saw in Atlanta.>>

>>As far as Kolbs Qb rating, thats what happens when your coming off the bench smart guy. Had he started all season it probably would have been s different story>>

Because of the number of teams looking for a Quarterback this off-season (provided a lockout doesn’t prevent trades), Kolb is probably more valuable at this point as a trading block as opposed to being kept and letting Vick walk. Also, there are quite a few who consider Mike Kafka (whom the Eagles took in the 4th round in 2010) to be a better long-term solution at Quarterback anyway, so the Eagles may be better off re-signing Vick and trading Kolb, as noted possibly with their first rounder to the 49ers for the 49ers 1st and 2nd round picks.

I don’t understand why people are saying that someone is going to give a top 10 draft pick to the Eagles for Kolb and the 23rd pick? The Eagles have basically communicated that “he’s not good enough to start” so why would a team give up so much to get him. Sure he did fine last year filling in for McNabb, but when he had a chance to play this year, he was up and down at best. I know it’s harder coming off the bench, but it’s not like he’s shown himself to be the next Joe Montana.

I think the Eagles are more likely to get a low 2nd or a 3rd round pick for him, honestly. It’s not like everyone is just lining deals with the sole purpose of making Philadelphia stronger. They are looking out for their own interests as well.

We’ve seen M Vick. He is who we thought he was. An exciting player who can make things happen. However, he’s not a championship level QB. Let’s be honest. He’s had many chances, and he’s not quite the complete package. Can this be argued.

If the iggles want a championship, they sign him as a backup or release him and they find the next guy. Sorry.

Love how all the less intelligent football fans think Vick is a better choice than kolb incase you people hadn’t noticed when NFL teams were able to get up to date video on Vick NFL defenses had him rattled take away the last 8 minutes of that giant game and the eagles mainly that offense had nothing but confusion and in turn the team woulda ended the season 0 and 3 and one and done in the playoffs so keep Vick and you’ll be running that over rated turd outta town like you did with mcnabb

I like how it’s “karma” that the Eagles lost in the first round this year for employing Vick. So um… wtf was the reason for all the other playoff losses under McNabb years prior?

GMAFB. The Eagles lost because a dead Jim Johnson could outcoach Sean McDermott and the inability of the offensive line to do anything positive consistently. Sure Akers missed two FGs (inexcusable) but this doesn’t happen if Winston Justice does HIS job on that 3rd and 1 to Shady up the middle. Instead he stands there and let’s Clay come right inside of him and tackle McCoy.

If Kolb wants to leave? Fine. I don’t blame him, though the timing is in poor taste. Trade him to the Dolphins or 49ers or Arizona. We need the draft picks and hopefully they won’t screw them up this year.

From what I have seen, I don’t know if Kolb is any better than A.J. Feeley. He certainly didn’t impress in more than a backup role, since it takes Kolb at least two games to get his legs under him. That’s two too many when you are talking about taking the team to the next level. Vick has certainly elevated his play, but the Eagles need a defensive overhaul, with a new coordinator, or at least the help of John Fox or someone with more than two years experience.

If that had been Brett Farve throwing a playoff ending interception instead of mvp Vick you would never hear the end of it. But since it was mvp Vick all you will hear are mvp Vick excuses. I’m just glad mvp Vick is not in Atlanta anymore – we are still in the playoffs.

cup1981 says:
Jan 10, 2011 2:18 AM
Kolb has an opportunity to be a solid starter. He hasn’t had the best of opportunities, nor the best of teachers [McNabb and Reid]. I believe he will be a decent starter somewhere, at some point in his career, he just needs the correct situation with the right coach. The Eagles thought enough of him to trade away the only good QB they have had since Cunningham. This means there is something there.

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Interesting that Kolb didn’t have a good teacher, considering Vick has played the best ever and credits Reid and McNabb in turning his preparation positive.

Below are the 2nd Round QB’s in the last 10 years – other than Brees, there are a lot of failures.

From the comments here Kolb is horribly overrated. You can’t blame his terrible stats on “coming off the bench” when, 1, he started the season as the Eagles starter and 2, he played a good chunk of games back to back. He was annointed to be starter and he lost the job because he struggled this season!

Kolb had 7 interceptions in 189 attempts. Vick had 6 interceptions in 372 attempts. That’s twice as many interceptions per attempt. Vick finished 4th in the league as far as rating, earning a rating of 100.2. Kolb’s rating of 73.1 would have put him down at the bottom of the league, barely beating Brett Favre, Derek Anderson and Jimmy Clausen and being beaten by Chad Henne, Donovan McNabb, and Alex Smith.

And those people blaming Vick on the playoff defeat, you really need to look elsewhere. Blame a coaching staff that never established the run while playing the Packers who all season were defenseless against the run (but had one of the best passing defenses in the league). Blame an offensive line that was manhandled all season (Football outsiders rank the Philadelphia Offensive line 28th in the league when it comes to pass protection). Vick is the QB that he was always supposed to be, it’s up to the rest of the Philadelphia team to step it up if they want to get past the first round of the playoffs.

Give Kolb an Offensive Line that can block and we don’t need a running QB !! Kolb has precision and poise (unlike the prior McNabb) We wasted so much on the slug Andrew’s bros. our “O” line was destroyed. That is why Vick was the choice to go to … so that eyes would be distracted from the poor performance of the O-Line that Andy of all people should have shored up !!! Kolb is the best choice for our future ! Move over Andy and give Gruden a shot !