nope!!! i stopped giving space shooters ANY credence after freelancer....(as shooters go...a DAMN good game)the original idea of it was supposed to have a fully interactive AI like ELITE I & II but it doesn't...space shooters are in abundance but space simulators...i'm not aware of any that EVER existed for today's computers...and as for a suggestion that'll challenge your computer...i don't know...i'm not loaded enough to own a game-rig...but then again...console game for me all the same...the only other good shooter i can recommend is X3 The Threat...an old one but a damn decent game of it's time...(not a sim though)

Yeah I really would love using my joystick on a mech game, and I am HOPING Hawken allows joysticks but mouse might be more accurate.

I did look into X3 last night and was wanting to check it out. Anything at least in DX9 would be good enough for me, although I am not all about the graphics, as I still game on retro systems as you all can tell.

Let me work the server and client code for a week or so and ill try and get a working server going on my game hosting connection, my other games are there but that week we had bad weather i unhooked it and GameStat service closed my server banner.

There is a sever called Freelancer 24/7 that i will be playing on in my freetime, I will try to make sure all the stuff works with mine also.

damn, thats one fine looking joystick perfect for space-sims, but what about air-flight?I'm hunting for one of these old-school PS1 controls, it was great for ace combat 3:electrosphere, I kept that disc all this time hoping to get another control, wish I never got rid of it

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I asked the guy at my local retro shop if he had any ps1 controls with "two joysticks", and he thought I meant ps1 dual-analog controls. didn't seem like he had a clue, really generally he is well informed, but these are probably harder to come by nowadays, specially here in Oz. gonna take it this pic/model info into him and see what he can do for me

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is there any simulation programs LEAKED out there for piloting class 1 & 2 shuttles?? (take off with payload/fuel cells attached, disengaged/jettisoned after gravity barrier is broken) (still in the sim ranges...no particle weapons though) if you can get a sim NASA (or british aerospace) endorsed....i can think of NO BETTER tribute to those yokes/sticks posted... (and i'd be all over the sim if one was freely available..)