Actual Farking:Wouldn't it be cool if jar jar turned out to be a jedi? He would bring some great levity to those self important jedi. He would use the force in silly ways.

Nah, he'll be revealed as a Sith Master who was hiding in plain sight all of the time, playing the fool sonit was easier to manipulate the key players right where he wanted them for Sidious to create the Empire. The one master and one apprentice rule will turn out to be a lie, spread by the Sith so further their long game.

The only time the prequels triggered any emotional response from me whatsoever was the utter sadness of watching Ewan McGregor trying so hard to turn in a ranged performance while everyone else involved cratered so hard they had to build an underground bank so they could go deposit their paychecks.

Mad_Radhu:Actual Farking: Wouldn't it be cool if jar jar turned out to be a jedi? He would bring some great levity to those self important jedi. He would use the force in silly ways.

Nah, he'll be revealed as a Sith Master who was hiding in plain sight all of the time, playing the fool sonit was easier to manipulate the key players right where he wanted them for Sidious to create the Empire. The one master and one apprentice rule will turn out to be a lie, spread by the Sith so further their long game.

That would be funny as hell. I was over the Jar-Jar hatred when he was manipulated into putting Palpatine in power. The comic relief accidentally breaking the universe was great. I'm a little more forgiving about the trilogies than most. 1 was a little boring and contrived but I liked 2 from about the point where Mace showed up on Geonosis to the end and most of 3. When watching I FF through any Ani-Amidala scene in 2, if Lucas thinks that is romantic dialogue he better be grateful he is rich and famous or else he would never have been laid.

When I used to play the SW Role Playing Game (SHUT UP, don't judge me!) I played a Jedi who looked like Bill the Cat from Bloom County in Jedi Robes. All he could say was Ach! Thbbbbbt. He communicated telepathically.

Mad_Radhu:Actual Farking: Wouldn't it be cool if jar jar turned out to be a jedi? He would bring some great levity to those self important jedi. He would use the force in silly ways.

Nah, he'll be revealed as a Sith Master who was hiding in plain sight all of the time, playing the fool sonit was easier to manipulate the key players right where he wanted them for Sidious to create the Empire. The one master and one apprentice rule will turn out to be a lie, spread by the Sith so further their long game.

Ed Grubermann:miss diminutive: fearmongert: Darth Maul was the only good thing in the original trilogy....

What? He didn't do anything. He had about two lines and waved a double-sided glowstick around.

Yes. And how does that invalidate Fearmongert's point?

That wasn't a point, it was an opinion. I could have the opinion that the best part about Shawshank Redemption was the guard who noticed Dufresne was missing, but I think some people would disagree with me.

Ed Grubermann:miss diminutive: fearmongert: Darth Maul was the only good thing in the original trilogy....

What? He didn't do anything. He had about two lines and waved a double-sided glowstick around.

Yes. And how does that invalidate Fearmongert's point?

I think the "had about two lines" part is strong evidence that his character was not the only good thing in the original trilogy. Sure, the fight scenes are cool, but when he dies, does it really have any sort of impact? The Kenobi/Vader fight from A New Hope was lame by comparison, but there was actual dialogue in the scene that made it cool, and Kenobi dying definitely had an impact.

HighOnCraic:I think the "had about two lines" part is strong evidence that his character was not the only good thing in the original trilogy. Sure, the fight scenes are cool, but when he dies, does it really have any sort of impact? The Kenobi/Vader fight from A New Hope was lame by comparison, but there was actual dialogue in the scene that made it cool, and Kenobi dying definitely had an impact.

/Sorry for the spoilers. :-)

All of the duels in 4,5,6 had important dialog and plot points. Besides the final Anakin/Obi Wan duel the seemingly unending ones in the prequels has none.

HighOnCraic:Ed Grubermann: miss diminutive: fearmongert: Darth Maul was the only good thing in the original trilogy....

What? He didn't do anything. He had about two lines and waved a double-sided glowstick around.

Yes. And how does that invalidate Fearmongert's point?

I think the "had about two lines" part is strong evidence that his character was not the only good thing in the original trilogy.

Have you forgotten how truly horrible the prequel trilogy was? Yes, with two lines, some nice dance moves, a pointless death, no motivation, and no character development, Dart Maul was the least stinky turd in the sewer of the Prequel Trilogy.

Ed Grubermann:HighOnCraic: Ed Grubermann: miss diminutive: fearmongert: Darth Maul was the only good thing in the original trilogy....

What? He didn't do anything. He had about two lines and waved a double-sided glowstick around.

Yes. And how does that invalidate Fearmongert's point?

I think the "had about two lines" part is strong evidence that his character was not the only good thing in the original trilogy.

Have you forgotten how truly horrible the prequel trilogy was? Yes, with two lines, some nice dance moves, a pointless death, no motivation, and no character development, Dart Maul was the least stinky turd in the sewer of the Prequel Trilogy.

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The scene where Anakin kills Dooku was much cooler, and it was part of his slow turn to the dark side. But whatever, hate or like what you want.

I mean, it was too-well-executed. Whenever there was a lightsaber fight, you could tell it was just some guys doing dance steps in front of a green screen. Go watch the originals and watch those lightsaber fights, which were slower, messier, and more emotive. Watch Luke hammer down blows on Vader...it's not pretty, but it's way closer to how an actual fight would go with all that emotional baggage.

The choreography was one of the main reasons the prequels felt so damn sterile.

As for John Williams, I have full faith he'll churn out some variation of the same work he's done every time he's called upon.

Mad_Radhu:Actual Farking: Wouldn't it be cool if jar jar turned out to be a jedi? He would bring some great levity to those self important jedi. He would use the force in silly ways.

Nah, he'll be revealed as a Sith Master who was hiding in plain sight all of the time, playing the fool sonit was easier to manipulate the key players right where he wanted them for Sidious to create the Empire. The one master and one apprentice rule will turn out to be a lie, spread by the Sith so further their long game.

You know, if Jar Jar had basically pulled a Verbal Kint to end the first one to end the first one, it would have completely changed the reviews of that movie.

When I used to play the SW Role Playing Game (SHUT UP, don't judge me!) I played a Jedi who looked like Bill the Cat from Bloom County in Jedi Robes. All he could say was Ach! Thbbbbbt. He communicated telepathically.