Oldest Stone Spear Tips Found: 500,000 Years Old

I wonder what other discoveries they'll find the farther back they go?

IMO, it's only a matter of time before they do. Every time I read about these finds, I can't help but think about how many artifacts have been
destroyed in our pursuit of minerals, modernization etc. Artifacts that could have shed more light on our past.

I can only hope that more finds like these are located and more importantly made public.

Hardly... All this does is show some of the traits that we associate with modern humans and our nearest relatives can be traced further back in our
lineage. The time period puts these spear tips in the hands of Homo heidelbergensis, the last common ancestor of Neanderthals and modern humans.

Originally posted by slugger9787
I call BS on this being espoused as fact: 500,000 years ago.
Prove that it was 500,000 years ago, scientifically prove it.
Use the scientific method and prove it. Can not be done.

It in infallible use of the SWAG method (Scientific Wild Assed Guess).

There are about 500,000 fossil records in museums around the world.
Within these 500,000 fossil imprints into stone there is no evidence of
1. evolution
2. the evolution of flight in birds, insects, mammals or reptiles
3. all these hundreds of thousands of fossil records show is the spontaneous
and sudden appearance of a. birds b. reptiles that fly c. bats
4. there are absolutely no "TRANSITION" FOSSIL remains, NONE.
5. These complex life forms suddenly appeared with no fossil evidential history anywhere on earth, NO WHERE>

All you evolutionists, use your holy grail of scientific method and quit relying on the faith of evolutionism.

It's amazing, isn't it, when we can learn something new about our ancestry. I know of some very cool archeological finds in my own
homestate- in fact it's one of the things kids are taught about early on, and WHY they are so important to keep for the generations to come. I've
seen the Kensington Runestone, petroglyphs carved into quartzite and granite, even to finding mound graves, used by the natives many many years ago. I
love archeology!

I wonder what other discoveries they'll find the farther back they go? It seems interesting to me that some would find this discovery surprising? I
don't think our ancient cousins were primitive like we are lead to believe. As always Stay tuned.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

In any case, it's nothing short of ASTOUNDING that for 500,000 some odd years, human beings could 'stagnate' with stone tools and primitive
hunter-gathering, and yet in a matter of 6,000 short years, have gone from that to walking on the moon.

It almost makes the past look like a phantom, nothing more than a preparation for the present world in which we live.

I wonder what other discoveries they'll find the farther back they go? It seems interesting to me that some would find this discovery surprising? I
don't think our ancient cousins were primitive like we are lead to believe. As always Stay tuned.

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

In any case, it's nothing short of ASTOUNDING that for 500,000 some odd years, human beings could 'stagnate' with stone tools and primitive
hunter-gathering, and yet in a matter of 6,000 short years, have gone from that to walking on the moon.

It almost makes the past look like a phantom, nothing more than a preparation for the present world in which we live.

Not all clans made the move to more complex cultures and on to civilization. Even today there are people who live clan based nomadic lives, like the
Sentinelese people

Good morning, how was the sleep. You may start rethinking history and evolution as it seems scientists in their majority decided to take a theory,
make it a fact and not leave the door open for anything that may differ from their 'fact'.

It would also be a good idea to rethink evolution and how some certain part of the apes got so smart and started doing things that no other animal to
this day has achieved to be more like human.

So little evidence left of man just 500kchecking years ago. Earth is what near 4 billion years old? There could have easily been other intelligent
civilized beings on earth many times over in 4 billion years with all evidence now lost to the ages.

Yeah - something just never seems to add up here. Considering everything that was accomplished over the last 8000 years ( not to mention 800 and
especially not to mention the last 80) what exactly the hell were we doing for the first half million years or so??????

Really ? 500,000 yrs old ? Give me a break ! When is the scientific community going to start getting real on time lines ? I am so fed up with their
"guesstimates" that now its just freakin' ridiculous.

There is no absolute technology in this day and time that can accurately prove how old or the age of something and best methods we have in trying to
determine such are only best guess based on the numbers fed into the computations used to try to determine such.

Thanks Wolfenz for that extra info - Julia Pastrana, beautiful name but like Pye said in his lecture "a face that would make a freight train take a
dirt road." And the guy MARRIED her? And they had a kid together?? Eeech! And then he went out and found another woman just like Julia??? No
wonder he wound up in a mental institution.

As a possible answer to your query about what we'd all look like if a few chromosomes were removed I'd have to say yes, the ape is not buried very
deep at all within all of us. If the our chromosomes get jumbled in the slightest way it seems you get a "whoop, they it iz" kind of moment.

Regarding Pye's information he gave in the Everything You Know Is Wrong" talk I've wondered if Homo Sapiens are the ONLY animal on the planet with
stacked chromosomes. I've not had time to research that question but, if we are, it has to beg the next question of how the heck could that have
occured without outside help? If this type of arrangement occurs NO WHERE else in the known genetic world how DID that happen just all of a sudden in
our genetic history? Like - boom! - over night! Any time genes get messed with in an "accidental" way the resulting offspring rarely, rarely -
like NEVER - survive.

the problem is that religion IS the worst case senario.... "lord and savior" just listen to that. it is rediculous.

other than that i find this an awesome find but more so my thanks for those who release this type of info from the field to us people who crave the
truth. in my opinion our roots stretch far back in earths history with many short technological ages and long interveining ages of cleansing of the
earth by natural events. its amazing such small tools lasted so long and in a place they could be found.

Hardly... All this does is show some of the traits that we associate with modern humans and our nearest relatives can be traced further back in our
lineage. The time period puts these spear tips in the hands of Homo heidelbergensis, the last common ancestor of Neanderthals and modern humans.

Lol, if only Homo Heidelbergensis being in South Africa (where these tools were apparently found) around this time, and not having been ALL of the way
North in Great Britain 200,000 years earlier

, with remains dating back to over 700,000 years old..

But hey there are also remains of them dating back to around the time of the creation of these little stone tools (around 500,000 years ago) but.. eh,
another problem there.. You see they were still found thousands of miles away from South Africa, let alone even in Africa at all, the fact being that
NO fossil remains of Homo Heidelbergensis have been found in Africa.. Even if they were to be at two extreme distant and opposite locations at the
same time period, let alone having been FAR, FAR out of africa in the British Isles 200,000 years before

Yeah - something just never seems to add up here. Considering everything that was accomplished over the last 8000 years ( not to mention 800 and
especially not to mention the last 80) what exactly the hell were we doing for the first half million years or so??????

Surviving - go read about the lives of nomadic hunter-gathers. Many HG groups were quite content to stay that way until bureaucratic pressures made
them sedentary. Many people still live that way either fully or partially

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