All right every Wednesday at 130. We're gonna have buzz segment that our bonds called win the segments -- it. When listening associate in the game but it's when the segment US WAT and that's WH you know by yeah yeah. What. Like Danielle and Whitney minority education in then -- they are. Football insider Josh Wilcox CEOs to show what dusty it's called the football show on Thursdays from 78. And covering the ducks in the beavers for us. Tactile we I had right Abraham on earlier for Josh shot obviously got ties to USC was your brother but if you -- player. And this kid can of the Josh if you're Josh are you are in that position or close on the team. How would you kind of be handling that situation right now why. Right now as you look at it in I mean it's all subjective and I I'm not gonna read everything on Twitter and believe in Milan. You know the coaches took this kid who had high character and I haven't heard one bad thing about him ever. I actually talked to a guy who's an NFL -- today in -- thing was like Kate his character so give what's going on down there and then. You look at it sought after his teammate you probably surprised by this whole thing but the problem is a problem because yeah I understand you get your -- in Fresno. But all the coaches that it's gonna help me when I get their game and anyone get ready go on to the players want to play. So all this and you're -- LA. Deposits are certainly he's yeah yeah you know yesterday. What is your preparing they walked downstairs and it's inside edition Shellee Smith did his -- and he thought out there and and -- were playing Fresno state. So the story that it -- -- -- it's kind of believable. Was first -- -- guy jumps up and executed now it's unbelievable it's not true and -- that's only as early it's sad either way it's Saturday if he had a lie. It if you like today coached anyone believe a guy that's what you are lighting guy went to twice. The slippery -- 00 credibility if there's been like to watch it twice -- the money you know that how much -- ever exactly and then if if it's. Turns out to be true it's sad that the character assassination -- social. When that's that's kind of -- Els wanted to as -- -- -- or you know I was in the NFL career. How crazy -- it to you look at as a former -- when you look at and you say we've reached a point. Where a kid any just sprained his ankle is my biggest problem and it's just a sprain I was gonna be out probably two games he'll be back. But instead we can't just let a story does whatever he lied lied we have to dig through every single thing that we hear from athletes and almost feels like we've reached a point. Whereupon an athlete I had no idea why people don't wanna talk to me anymore because all they want they wanna get the scoop and they wanna gain publicity for themselves absolutely. I talked to bunch -- teammates -- -- was appears -- -- Wilcox about the little bit I would not want to play right now yeah I had thought I love the sport I love everything about it but on the other stuff and what you should expect this but you don't dictate they be ready for this is it if it now and you -- eighteen or nineteen is ready for obvious for 22021. You know north -- forty and still not ready for yeah thank you really look at that well they should know initiative that's really. You want to you've been in that spot for yourself issues it's not gonna -- -- -- been -- that hasn't let you know I had the same time that's the world we live NC got to kind of give and take go with it and that's what you know that turns into a story but I'm sure they're ready to play presence. Well let's shift gears organ and we we've heard all offseason Royce Freeman -- free minutes that the main story that we feared out of her -- -- camp and you look at this this triple headed monster in the backfield Dorgan is something needs to be one of the best running back just. -- triplets that we see in a long time down there this Kagan be the real deal absolutely I'm by and I've seen with my own eyes on. Yeah okay and will blow the lid off of that but yet it if you played there you go through a process to get it -- coaches invite you to practice to probably -- -- I took full advantage of that and watch this kid in Mumbai and everything else in that everybody selling when Gary Campbell comes out and doesn't. On you know talk bad about a guy in completely praises impact is on the -- Campbell's one -- -- and and I know Gary Campbell and we coaches this I say Royce Freeman and give me. One word combined many kids out there in that we can we cannot talk about stats are victims of those things. His character that was -- what must be a football player worried about this team there's a great article. And it might have been Jason quick but you know I think it was they wrote an article was about it how he praises. Is his family religion yeah teammates obviously first and himself me that's that's unheard of in this age of five star it's all about me. This kid wants to you wanted to be in or conduct. And he's been there he's done everything -- -- and don't forget I mean you got a special teams and from what I've heard and what I saw a little bit -- he loves special teams on it sounds like him in the last guy just Wilcox joining us here in the last sound like the last time the -- we're -- about was marks Mario men like he got at the same hype around and I'm glad to report. Tell you yes guys you had hit. When he got in the system yeah. Right yeah because when he came in -- law he's a 123 -- quarterback that's what everybody doesn't start do you have for SARS is not going to be very good knowing what you offer you know what. Stars go away when you step on campus -- I don't give a crap. If he's a 5013. If he can play for the university or did he can play for the University of Oregon. But yeah I Mario -- think I think it was Joey Harrington yeah that's registered. Everybody run program yes -- a Mario you -- see -- Royce Freeman a -- baskets he's I saw him yeah physically he passes the physical test. Does he remind you of a -- and -- Tougher. Time for the Johns well I mean you know fantastic and it's very it's an incredible way you know I don't think -- -- I didn't see really much breakaway speed physically do it feels as teachers and I'm not talk about medium you just -- I think if you have -- -- -- -- -- Mario do we know humble he is. But is the situation with if he can do things the right way the first couple weeks and live up to all of that we've heard. He kind of emerges -- the feature back to -- you find other ways user you'd think -- generally gonna use a three headed -- well I mean you you have that many weapons the backfield and use of you know bright and so indeed have to get as many hits to take away hits from guys that you guys in the back field. You know what you do also what do gross talk about who they gonna throw to. Given mobile quarterback if three guys in the backfield can actually catch about the fact that doesn't that put a mismatch on linebacker trying to. When you're always creating mismatches -- its office put him in space 11 vs -- will linebacker. It's gonna cover Royce Freeman you -- diner food or Marshall out of the backfield and I. Think that everyday -- -- yeah absolutely you got says South Dakota this weekend obviously going to be able lots to be a bloodbath probably early. But when you watch a game like this against South Dakota I know there's a lot of young guys in the two deep we saw that was released you know make. What do you what do you look for the as you look for the young guys to step up BC of the reserves are playing in the second half what -- keep an eye for an gimmick as we know is going to be able Russell teams the first. Because that's gonna carry some war I mean you know there are talk about your freshman but I think maybe one of the most important refreshed and people laughed a -- snapper can't accrue as a punt team as the most important special team. And if your place partly in Stanford UCLA is not ready to go. You got your press room there what's gonna happen then there's you know he thought around special teams so important. Absolutely see these guys play see how the energy is they -- -- we have fundamental good football. It is scored she win -- you three should win this football team make it out there don't get anybody hurt and receiver wise I wanna see who the receipt restarted the running good routes and not so much if you have a great pass. -- DeVon -- be -- guide to stretch and go against great track speed does that equate to great football speeding getting up the line of scrimmage when everybody else and just welcome to start. As -- say tweet is out of our hard knocks last night because they had at the start of it. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And I mean I had a cup from Ditka but he spit -- and cigars yet but bombs in their. -- coach Brooks who watches those teams I was on my team and I got. Destroyed by guy -- -- and take it farther back I literally was sitting in my chaired by the end -- -- I was almost completely slid down. And I think yeah yeah yeah oh yeah -- or not it's like our. And find them -- bind -- my parents -- horrible you know the whole media group as you just like stopped the plane hit it also works he'd ever seen a guy chewed out. Little boy -- Dick hats and fiery ones. English -- cry. Close to it come on their -- -- oh yeah I mean you don't wanna be -- that player coach and but yeah IE Brooks had a couple I mean there's guys that course now. The only guy -- know you know -- -- mean that absolutely yeah those things are for real and as I can kind of -- to that's the business experience of playing in the NFL or pulling -- We did this the same right before you got and people detectors you wanna know. And maybe you have an easy answer here because you've played football we give you five months to train we just go to batting cage hit ninety mile an hour fastballs. Or you have 65 months did to keep a thirty yard field goal your foot -- a live game situation in the MLB in the NFL. What would you rather if you kick a thirty yard field wanna game I'd rather kick if you didn't face a fastball absolutely -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Stay at 130 just going to be joining us on some of the bigger weeks next week we'll have an in studio here for a half an hour he's going to be on all the shows his or football insider great stuff just. 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