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chap22 wrote:yeah, but no. i mean it's explained how she gets the suit, and how she gets to Chandilar, and how she goes from subguardian to superguardian, but never once does Hickman even pretend to offer up an explanation for why the Imperial Guard, a force whose sole purpose for being is to guard and protect the Shi'ar Imperium, would even consider taking in someone who has absolutely no loyalty to that empire or the people who run it. she just shows up on the throneworld wearing Smasher tech she picked up basically out of the trash and Gladiator and the rest are like "'sup. oh, you confiscated our dead guy's tech? it's cool, come join our most prestigious, well-trained, groomed from birth group of warriors, random Earthling college dropout #187,432."

Hickman made me like Izzy Dare in just this one issue, and i think she'll make a fine Avenger, but i'm having trouble buying the idea that she'd be accepted as a Guardsman too.

Really? Why is everyone so confused? I thought the opening of the book made it pretty clear that Izzy found the visor of the Smasher who died in an Iowa cornfield while escaping from Cassandra Nova's attack on the Shi'ar in Morrison's XMen. Did I misread the book?

chap22 wrote:yeah, but no. i mean it's explained how she gets the suit, and how she gets to Chandilar Rimbor, and how she goes from subguardian Legion of Substitute-Heroes to superguardian Legion of Super-Heroes, but never once does Hickman even pretend to offer up an explanation for why the Imperial Guard Legion of Super-Heroes, a force whose sole purpose for being is to guard and protect the Shi'ar Imperium United Planets, would even consider taking in someone who has absolutely no loyalty to that empire or the people who run it. she just shows up on the throneworld wearing SmasherUltra Boy tech she picked up basically out of the trash and Gladiator Superboy and the rest are like "'sup. oh, you confiscated our dead guy's tech? it's cool, come join our most prestigious, well-trained, groomed from birth group of warriors, random Earthling college dropout #187,432."

Hickman made me like Izzy Dare in just this one issue, and i think she'll make a fine Avenger, but i'm having trouble buying the idea that she'd be accepted as a Guardsman Legionnaire too.

Amazing how much you know about a team you constantly say you don't like.

TimDrake'sDumbWings wrote:Really? Why is everyone so confused? I thought the opening of the book made it pretty clear that Izzy found the visor of the Smasher who died in an Iowa cornfield while escaping from Cassandra Nova's attack on the Shi'ar in Morrison's XMen. Did I misread the book?

you're looking at it from the angle. we're not questioning how Izzy got there. we're questioning why Gladiator and the Guard would allow her to stay and keep that tech. that's the part that isn't explained/doesn't make sense.

chap22 wrote:you're looking at it from the angle. we're not questioning how Izzy got there. we're questioning why Gladiator and the Guard would allow her to stay and keep that tech. that's the part that isn't explained/doesn't make sense.

Ah, I getcha. Yeah, I mean, it's not like she proved herself in battle or anything before she was made a subguardian; she kind of put the glasses on and was good to go. So I can see how that's confusing.

TimDrake'sDumbWings wrote:Ah, I getcha. Yeah, I mean, it's not like she proved herself in battle or anything before she was made a subguardian; she kind of put the glasses on and was good to go. So I can see how that's confusing.