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It sure is...Coon has to win out to win out to have even a remote shot at the Hodge...his competition is Zain. It is more likely that Coon loses than Zain loses when comparing the two in relation to the Hodge. Yes, it the premise.

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It sure is...Coon has to win out to win out to have even a remote shot at the Hodge...his competition is Zain. It is more likely that Coon loses than Zain loses when comparing the two in relation to the Hodge. Yes, it the premise.

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The chances of Coon losing in one of two more match ups with Snyder is more likely than Zain losing.

I question whether he will win out with two matches left with Snyder...which is less likely than Zain losing. Yep, I'm on track. But thanks for policing the thread and letting me know I am wrong over my post.

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if Coon wins out...and Zain wins out....and they continue at same bonus rates as now....Zain should win (by the Hodge criteria) but don't be surprised if Coon does win (because WIN does not necessarily follow their own criteria, or rather they occasionally pick and choose what criteria they want to emphasize).

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Bonus points be damned, if Coon stays undefeated, on his same bonus pace and ends up 3-0 against a 2X World and 1x Olympic Champ, it is very hard to not weigh that more over beating Sorenson 3x's and wrecking a relatively weak field.

Remember, I say that being the guy that said Snyder in no way would deserve it over Retherford, but that was due to a much shortened schedule and lack of pins or even near fall. Coon already has 9 FALLS out of his 22 matches, so he should be solidly into double digits.

So, I guess it comes down to this. Does beating Snyder all 3X's trump the extra 25% bonus rate of which 40% more are FALLS? I don't know that it does, but it sure makes it a LOT closer and gives the voters a bunch more to think about!

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Bonus points be damned, if Coon stays undefeated, on his same bonus pace and ends up 3-0 against a 2X World and 1x Olympic Champ, it is very hard to not weigh that more over beating Sorenson 3x's and wrecking a relatively weak field.

Remember, I say that being the guy that said Snyder in no way would deserve it over Retherford, but that was due to a much shortened schedule and lack of pins or even near fall. Coon already has 9 FALLS out of his 22 matches, so he should be solidly into double digits.

So, I guess it comes down to this. Does beating Snyder all 3X's trump the extra 25% bonus rate of which 40% more are FALLS? I don't know that it does, but it sure makes it a LOT closer and gives the voters a bunch more to think about!

Plus, while there are people who have won the hodge twice, the voters may look at Coonâ€™s resume if he wins out and think â€œZR did put up more bonus but Coon was pretty damn Good too and beat Snyder 3xâ€™s, so while ZR does deserve this, he has one already. We gotta give it to Coon.â€

It ZR didnâ€™t win it last year and was passed by for Coon this year, then I would see a need to complain but I donâ€™t think people are gonna say Coon isnâ€™t worthy if he wins out and beats Snyder two more times.

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Plus, while there are people who have won the hodge twice, the voters may look at Coonâ€™s resume if he wins out and think â€œZR did put up more bonus but Coon was pretty damn Good too and beat Snyder 3xâ€™s, so while ZR does deserve this, he has one already. We gotta give it to Coon.â€

It ZR didnâ€™t win it last year and was passed by for Coon this year, then I would see a need to complain but I donâ€™t think people are gonna say Coon isnâ€™t worthy if he wins out and beats Snyder two more times.

But "past credentials" is one of the criteria. Winning last year's Hodge (plus being a three-time champ and four-time All American) would work for Retherford, not against him.