Re: 2014 regular CTS to have 420 HP !!!!

I would not say the "regular" CTS is going to have 420 hp. Based on other cars, only the CTS Premium will have this engine. About 60-75% of 3rd gen CTS will have the 2.0T. Probably another 15-30% will have the NA 3.6. The TT v-6 will account for less than 10%. Bet on it. And I would bet on automatic only. They could potentially make more CTS-V than turbo CTS.

But it won't be heavier. The ATS comes in at 3400 lbs or so with the V6. Figure the CTS will be 3600 lbs.

As for the V, I am betting it continues on with 580 hp, but will weigh 3700 lbs (600 lbs less than current)

The GMPP tune from the dealer for the Sky RL bumps it from 260/260 to 290/340. I'm ordering a popular tune for mine that bumps it up to around 320/380, with no other mods.

I hope that is going to be a HP tune. Try doing an ethanol mix 50%e85 50%premium fuel... You will destroy the inside of your underwear, front and back. I miss that cobalt with the LNF... Total animal of a motor.

On topic... The new cts is gonna be heavier so the power difference is gonna balance a little. Just makes me want to get the motor built and boosted that much quicker

Back in the 80's I bought a 1988 Mustang GT 5.0 V8 new which had 225hp. Mini Van's today put out more HP.

But the most powerful minivan today still isn't as much fun to drive as that stock '88 5.0L Mustang is 25 years later.

Our first gen Vs are significant, the way the Buick Grand National, Saleen Mustangs, and the Viper were 20-25 years ago. We're talking about and driving cars that raised the bar from a performance standpoint. They opened people's eyes to the hidden potential lurking in the US auto manufacturing industry and market at each step of the way.

Re: 2014 regular CTS to have 420 HP !!!!

Originally Posted by JimmyH

I would not say the "regular" CTS is going to have 420 hp. Based on other cars, only the CTS Premium will have this engine. About 60-75% of 3rd gen CTS will have the 2.0T. Probably another 15-30% will have the NA 3.6. The TT v-6 will account for less than 10%. Bet on it. And I would bet on automatic only. They could potentially make more CTS-V than turbo CTS.

But it won't be heavier. The ATS comes in at 3400 lbs or so with the V6. Figure the CTS will be 3600 lbs.

As for the V, I am betting it continues on with 580 hp, but will weigh 3700 lbs (600 lbs less than current)

it will definitely be heavier. it's going to be larger in every dimension than the current CTS, and it's going up against the A6 and the 5 Series.

I'd say the 2.0T will be the volume engine, but that the TT V6 will be second in sales. Most people want the entry-level or the top tier, not the mid-tier engine.

I also don't see the CTS-V getting any lighter. Why would it drop 600 lbs? It is EXTREMELY difficult to lose that much weight from one generation to another, especially when making the car bigger. I think the only vehicle to lose close to that much weight in recent memory is the Land Rover Range Rover, and that's because they went to an almost all-aluminum design.

in any case, I have my invitation to Cadillac's CTS launch Tuesday night in NYC, so I'll find out the details soon enough.