Ryan Tannehill, Dolphins quarterback: Tannehill got into an exciting shootout with Colts rookie quarterback Andrew Luck and nearly came out on top. Tannehill threw for 290 yards and a touchdown on the road. Tannehill can make all the throws. He also showed toughness by taking some big hits and playing through a left knee and quad injury. The future looks bright if the Dolphins can keep building around their young gunslinger.

I realize it is asking a lot of a rookie, but a kill shot once in awhile would be nice. Miami needs someone to lift the team when things aren't going well. 2nd half at Indy was pedestrian.

Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:39 am

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Keep in mind though, he was playing hurt, taking big hits, and our oline was whiffing on blocks. I'd say he gets a bit of a pass for having pedestrian numbers in that game. What he didn't do that needs to be praised more is turn the ball over. He didn't even have any near picks.

Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:19 pm

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Hey, he's young and all the above I agree with....but one day he's gonna have to strap on his big boy helmet and carry the team when its down. Right now, he plays well when everyone else around him is playing well. How do I say this ... its the mark of a franchise guy...they either have it or don't. Right now, 8 games in ... how many Q4 come from behind wins?

Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:32 pm

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BTW...too careful with the football means he's not taking enough chances downfield. Sometimes you gotta bet on your guy to make a play.

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I realize it is asking a lot of a rookie, but a kill shot once in awhile would be nice. Miami needs someone to lift the team when things aren't going well. 2nd half at Indy was pedestrian.

Is Junkie Omar Kelly? KILL

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Bigfish..no. But I did co-opt that from Omar. First down at the 50...I think in that situation you got to bet on your rising star to complete 20yds worth of passes.

Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:52 pm

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Phin wrote:

Keep in mind though, he was playing hurt, taking big hits, and our oline was whiffing on blocks. I'd say he gets a bit of a pass for having pedestrian numbers in that game. What he didn't do that needs to be praised more is turn the ball over. He didn't even have any near picks.

He's gone five straight weeks without a turnover. The kid makes mistakes, but he seems to learn from them quickly. I think by the end of the season this kid is going to be vastly improved from where he was when the season began. The big question moving forward is how we're going to protect him, how we're going to add weapons for him, and how we're going to get some better defensive backs to create turnovers and give him more possessions. It's a quarterback driven league, and we've got a good young prospect, but we need to do a better job protecting him and giving him options to throw to.

Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:35 pm

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BTW...too careful with the football means he's not taking enough chances downfield. Sometimes you gotta bet on your guy to make a play.

Tannehill is very calculated when he goes downfield. He doesn't throw the ball into double coverage. He doesn't take chances. He's learned a lot in the past couple of months. Those first few weeks taught him a lot. The thing I like the most about Tannehill is he learns from his mistakes and he continues to improve his ball security and decision making ability. That is going to be a real plus for the kid moving forward.

He simply throws to the open receiver or throws it away when nobody is open. That is what the great ones do. They understand that living to play the next down is usually the better option. When you try to throw guys open or do too much is usually when bad things happen and you loose your team the game.

If you want a perfect example of that just look at Tony Romo, Michael Vick, etc. Gunslingers like that have great games once and a while, but they're inconsistent, and they throw a lot of interceptions. I don't want Tannehill to be that type of quarterback.

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Which is understandable because this group has only been together for a couple of months now and Tannehill is a rookie who is prone to making rookie mistakes.

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Gunslingers like that have great games once and a while, but they're inconsistent, and they throw a lot of interceptions. I don't want Tannehill to be that type of quarterback.

And those guys will never win a SB. Look at Vick, he takes so many sacks because he doesn't know where to throw the ball agaisnt the blitz. Tanny does.

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Tannehill will take sacks when he should throw the ball away aswell. He does it alot.

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Haha wrote:

Tannehill will take sacks when he should throw the ball away aswell. He does it alot.

It's hard to throw it away while inside the pocket. I haven't been discouraged at all by that aspect of his game.

Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:21 am

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seriously? How's he suppose to make these kill shots with a bunch of 2nd/3rd tier receivers and a failing left tackle. Tannehill had all the momentum and was scoring at will against the Colts until Long got him killed while driving down to score again. That played grabbed all the momentum away from miami and we never looked the same again. Luck just kept our defense on the field the rest of the way. Our offense got ice cold.

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Tannehill will take sacks when he should throw the ball away aswell. He does it alot.

How does he do it alot if he has only been sacked 15 times this season?

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How does he do it alot if he has only been sacked 15 times this season?

He's also #1 agasint the blitz last time I checked.

Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:01 pm

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Makchell wrote:

Gunslingers like that have great games once and a while, but they're inconsistent, and they throw a lot of interceptions. I don't want Tannehill to be that type of quarterback.

And those guys will never win a SB. Look at Vick, he takes so many sacks because he doesn't know where to throw the ball agaisnt the blitz. Tanny does.

I agree, the best quarterbacks are the guys that stick to their gameplan, know their strengths, they take what the defense gives, and they attack or exploit a weakness if they see it. Tannehill isn't quite there yet, he's still prone to some rookie mistakes, but he's showing signs that he can be that type of quarterback in time.

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seriously? How's he suppose to make these kill shots with a bunch of 2nd/3rd tier receivers and a failing left tackle. Tannehill had all the momentum and was scoring at will against the Colts until Long got him killed while driving down to score again. That played grabbed all the momentum away from miami and we never looked the same again. Luck just kept our defense on the field the rest of the way. Our offense got ice cold.

Yeap another year and there's always someone else to blame. Look, he's got enogh targets, he just has to use them effectively. Where is this mobility we keep hearing about? All I ever see is him getting sacked.

Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:24 pm

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How does he do it alot if he has only been sacked 15 times this season?

He's also #1 agasint the blitz last time I checked.

He also had a first down at the 50 last week, down by 3 and still managed to lose. Look, at some point they have to take the training wheels off and let him throw it downfield more. Take a few more chances.

Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:25 pm

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Makchell wrote:

Gunslingers like that have great games once and a while, but they're inconsistent, and they throw a lot of interceptions. I don't want Tannehill to be that type of quarterback.

And those guys will never win a SB. Look at Vick, he takes so many sacks because he doesn't know where to throw the ball agaisnt the blitz. Tanny does.

I agree, the best quarterbacks are the guys that stick to their gameplan, know their strengths, they take what the defense gives, and they attack or exploit a weakness if they see it. Tannehill isn't quite there yet, he's still prone to some rookie mistakes, but he's showing signs that he can be that type of quarterback in time.

I disagree totally. Luck was the better QB last week. He made several ill-advised throws but came away with a win. Dan Marino used to throw people open. Look how many Picks Peyton Manning has thrown this year...yet he has his team winning.

Thu Nov 08, 2012 2:27 pm

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NFLJunkie wrote:

wkloiber13 wrote:

Makchell wrote:

Gunslingers like that have great games once and a while, but they're inconsistent, and they throw a lot of interceptions. I don't want Tannehill to be that type of quarterback.

And those guys will never win a SB. Look at Vick, he takes so many sacks because he doesn't know where to throw the ball agaisnt the blitz. Tanny does.

I agree, the best quarterbacks are the guys that stick to their gameplan, know their strengths, they take what the defense gives, and they attack or exploit a weakness if they see it. Tannehill isn't quite there yet, he's still prone to some rookie mistakes, but he's showing signs that he can be that type of quarterback in time.

I disagree totally. Luck was the better QB last week. He made several ill-advised throws but came away with a win. Dan Marino used to throw people open. Look how many Picks Peyton Manning has thrown this year...yet he has his team winning.

Throwing the ball into double coverage and throwing the receiver open are two completely different things. What Luck did was throw into double coverage, he just got lucky. If our defenders hang on to a couple of those throws we win that game easily.

Tannehill is winning games for his team too, he's only one win behind Manning and the Broncos. Manning is very safe with the football (6 INT), so is Tannehill (6 INT), they're both not even in the top half of the league in interceptions. But do you know who is? Tony Romo, Michael Vick, Jay Cutler, and every other gunslinger in the NFL. Do you know who isn't, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers, the guys Tannehill studied in the offseason. I'm just fine with Tannehill being in the bottom half of the league in interceptions with Manning, Brady, and Rodgers. That's just fine with me.

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swerve13 wrote:

seriously? How's he suppose to make these kill shots with a bunch of 2nd/3rd tier receivers and a failing left tackle. Tannehill had all the momentum and was scoring at will against the Colts until Long got him killed while driving down to score again. That played grabbed all the momentum away from miami and we never looked the same again. Luck just kept our defense on the field the rest of the way. Our offense got ice cold.

Yeap another year and there's always someone else to blame. Look, he's got enogh targets, he just has to use them effectively. Where is this mobility we keep hearing about? All I ever see is him getting sacked.

you're impossible to please. If we win you think he's great, if we lose, it's nothing but criticism.

Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:26 am

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He is in the top 10 of the league with passes completed over 20 yards, one of the best against the blitz and hasn't turned ball over in like 5 games..He realizes his guys need to be open he doesn't have a big physical receiver to jump up and snatch that ball so he takes his sack or throws it away. There is not much more you can ask of a veteran QB let alone a rookie..His TD total isn't that high, but how many times has he thrown a bomb complete it then the receiver gets dragged down at the 1 or 2 yard line and our rb punches it in. Tannehill has been everything we could hope for so far. Once we build around him and get him some weapons he's got the potential to be an awesome QB for years to come.

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Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:32 am

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I guess we'll find out today. Weak defense in a team with a big lead...table is set for RT to show why he was drafted 8th overall

Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:11 am

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Two INT's so far....and the Titans dropped another gift-wrapped pick.

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Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:38 am

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He finally had that "welcome to the NFL, rookie" game....

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Just gave up a 3rd INT. Bad, bad pass right to a defender.

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He finally had that "welcome to the NFL, rookie" game....

I thought that happened against the Texans? I'm sure there's plenty of people that we can blame other than RT. In any case, I'm still waiting for him to tell the world he is a legit NFL QB. He's tinkered on the edge of being a good QB for 9 weeks. I've yet to see him take over a game and dominate. I've seen RGIII do it....I've seen Luck do it. I've even seen the kid in Seattle do it. Still waiting....

Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:44 pm

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NFLJunkie wrote:

Phins Rock wrote:

He finally had that "welcome to the NFL, rookie" game....

I thought that happened against the Texans? I'm sure there's plenty of people that we can blame other than RT. In any case, I'm still waiting for him to tell the world he is a legit NFL QB. He's tinkered on the edge of being a good QB for 9 weeks. I've yet to see him take over a game and dominate. I've seen RGIII do it....I've seen Luck do it. I've even seen the kid in Seattle do it. Still waiting....

He is a rookie and has show more talent and promise than you (self admittedly) ever gave him when we drafted him. Lets be a little patient here and realize that he is only halfways through his rookie season. It really doesn't matter what Luck, Griffin, and Wilson are doing, it matters what RT is doing; and that is developing at a fairly nice pace. You have setback games like this.Perspective man, perspective!

Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:47 pm

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He was worse than pedestrian today. They needed him to come up big and he was awful.

The running game stinks. What is going on with Bush? If he is healthy, then play him. If not, sit him and let him heal up.

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Phin wrote:

NFLJunkie wrote:

Phins Rock wrote:

He finally had that "welcome to the NFL, rookie" game....

I thought that happened against the Texans? I'm sure there's plenty of people that we can blame other than RT. In any case, I'm still waiting for him to tell the world he is a legit NFL QB. He's tinkered on the edge of being a good QB for 9 weeks. I've yet to see him take over a game and dominate. I've seen RGIII do it....I've seen Luck do it. I've even seen the kid in Seattle do it. Still waiting....

He is a rookie and has show more talent and promise than you (self admittedly) ever gave him when we drafted him. Lets be a little patient here and realize that he is only halfways through his rookie season. It really doesn't matter what Luck, Griffin, and Wilson are doing, it matters what RT is doing; and that is developing at a fairly nice pace. You have setback games like this.Perspective man, perspective!

Actually, it does matter if the other rookie QB's are better. It means you made an error in judgement on player selection. Something very normal for Miami since Marino left. RT could turn it around and the supporting cast is mostly very average....so there is hope. Days like this speak otherwise though.

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Frustrated....Don't you dare tell me either Weeden or Wilson have been better than Tannehill....

Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:05 pm

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Frustrated....Don't you dare tell me either Weeden or Wilson have been better than Tannehill....

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Phin wrote:

NFLJunkie wrote:

Phins Rock wrote:

He finally had that "welcome to the NFL, rookie" game....

I thought that happened against the Texans? I'm sure there's plenty of people that we can blame other than RT. In any case, I'm still waiting for him to tell the world he is a legit NFL QB. He's tinkered on the edge of being a good QB for 9 weeks. I've yet to see him take over a game and dominate. I've seen RGIII do it....I've seen Luck do it. I've even seen the kid in Seattle do it. Still waiting....

He is a rookie and has show more talent and promise than you (self admittedly) ever gave him when we drafted him. Lets be a little patient here and realize that he is only halfways through his rookie season. It really doesn't matter what Luck, Griffin, and Wilson are doing, it matters what RT is doing; and that is developing at a fairly nice pace. You have setback games like this.Perspective man, perspective!

I actually was for the drafting of RT. I just wasn't for him starting his rookie season. It appears more and more every week I was correct in that assessment. We probably will never know because he'll remain the guy. He has talent. So do most guys who come to the NFL level. The question is does he have that leadership quality that makes those around him better. Right now, that is up in the air. Like the rest of the team, he is getting worse. Perspective? This was the Titans not hte Packers, Giants or 9'ers. In any case, this conversation won't go anywhere. RT is a talented young QB...let's see how he bounces.

Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:42 pm

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FrustratedFinFan wrote:

Phins Rock wrote:

Frustrated....Don't you dare tell me either Weeden or Wilson have been better than Tannehill....