You might remember, this fall Lorde gave an interview about her belief system and her feminism and she ended saying: “Taylor Swift is so flawless, and so unattainable, and I don’t think it’s breeding anything good in young girls. ‘I’m never going to be like Taylor Swift, why can’t I be as pretty as Lorde?’ That’s f—— bulls–t.” Which isn’t exactly shade – it’s more like a backhanded compliment combined with a rather nuanced social critique. But everyone was like “Lorde hates Swifty!” and so Lorde came out later and clarified what she said and made an even more nuanced argument about “Photoshop culture” and the responsibility artists have to their fans. So… I guess all is forgiven between Lorde and Swifty. Lorde got an invite to Swifty’s b-day party so now they’re besties.

So, what do you think Swifty and Lorde talk about? I’m actually somewhat surprised that they would have anything to talk about because Swifty just seems so… boy-crazy. Like, in my mind, Swifty only talks about boys, cats and clothes. Meanwhile, Lorde is in the corner, reading the collected works of Erica Jong.

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When I was 24 I had NO interest in spending time with teenagers. Someone once posted that celebrities seem to be stuck in an age time warp, whatever age they are when they hit it ‘big’ they seem to be stuck there. Taylor is forever 16 where everything is hearts and ponies.

Yeah, I think that observation is usually attributed to George Clooney, who famously took a crapola in his friend’s cat litter box and then told a magazine that he couldn’t figure out why the guy didn’t think it was funny.

I don’t think the age gap is weird. What I DO think is a bit strange is the fact in all these photos, Lorde is right beside Taylor, as if they’ve been best friends for years. I think at my birthday party I would be hugging my genuine friends while blowing out my candles, not someone I met two weeks previously

Agreed. Even if Lorde is a mature 17, I find it rather odd that a 24-year-old wants to hang out with someone who lives with her parents and can’t get into a bar. It’s not just Lorde, either. Swift seems to date guys in this age range as well. That’s a big gap in life experience, regardless of the genders of the people involved.

Dude, I thought I was the only one who noticed. She collects people like purses. It’s kind of weird. She’s friends with half of the people in Hollywood and she dates the other half. Lorde, listen to me, you need to run while you still can.

It’s an attention and self-promotion thing. She’s always dating/BFFing whoever is the big thing in the tween and teen demographic. Boy banders, tween singers, Disney starlets, Glee people, if it’s going to be on the cover of Tiger Beat, she’s going to be there with it. When she wanted to prep everybody in the time leading up to RED, which heralded a change in music style and some collaborations, she started walking the red carpet with Nikki Minaj and going on radio stations rapping her songs. I also detect a strong fear of being left out in her. I think she feels like if she is the constant center of attention, then she controls everything around her and no one will ever leave her out or forget about her.

I know people on this site love Lorde but why is it a big deal that she’s hanging with Swift who is 24 but no one is complaining that Lorde’s boyfriend is 25. She started dating him when she was 16. We criticize all the men who dates young but nothing is being said about Lorde’s guy.

People also jumped to her defense when she said David Guetta was gross and some posters were saying perhaps she didn’t want to work with a man who had a song called “Sexy Bitch.” But here’s the kicker, Lorde did a remake of “Royals” with rapper Rick Ross. Some of Ross songs are known to be derogatory against women. He even had a song that was talking about getting a girl drugged up so he could rape her. What gives people?

I think she said Guetta was “gross” because most kids who are serious about EDM think that his music is commercial garbage. I never thought it had anything to do with some of his songs being considered offensive. That’s how I took it anyway. I’m really into electro/EDM and I would never listen to Guetta because his stuff is generic as hell, not to mention cheesy.

Well, it’s def. sketchy that her bf is fine with dating a teenager, but it’s not the same as a 40 year old dating a 20 year old. If the guy is old enough to be her dad, then that’s much more of an issue for me. I also have to add that Lorde seems much more mature than a lot of her teen counterparts. I was actually shocked when I learned her age, I would have guessed mid-twenties for sure.

@TOK but Lorde is a commercial artist so who is she to criticize him for going marketable. Now I understand if she was an EDM DJ and criticize David for going commercial, but she”s not. IMO she was either talking about the way he looks or his music, not that he sold out. I remember when MC Hammer was called a sell out by other rappers because he started getting into acting, had his own cartoon and received endorsements. It wasn’t long after that almost every rapper out there at that time started to branch out and become more of an entertainer, than just a rap artist. LL Cool J got his TV Show, Tupac, Dr. Dre, Snopp Dogg and others started getting movie roles. Yet when Hammer was trying to increase his brand and become even more marketable, he was called a sell out. Why shouldn’t David be more marketable if he has the opportunity to do so? Singers are becoming actors while some actors are becoming singers. Advertisement and magazine covers used to mainly be for models but now actress/actors are filling those roles, should we call them all sellouts just because they are trying to make themselves more proftable? To dislike David for selling out is to dislike every entertainer out there who has made a crossover.

I understand that you only have a problem if the older person in the relationship is old enough to be their partners mothers/fathers. However many people on here said they had a problem with any adult in their 20′s or older dating a teenager Lorde’s age. I remember the post where Swift was dating the kid who was around 18 and people were a little stern on her because it was Swift. Why is Lorde exempt because she’s a favorite on this site? Lorde does seems very mature for her age but that shouldn’t excuse her from doing what so many others get criticze for doing.

@V4Real-That a lot of extrapolating from a pretty innocuous comment
I don’t think her comment about Guetta is so much about him “selling out” as just not being very talented (and she never clarified that comment so I think reading into it might be a bit of an exercise in futility-neither of us are psychic).
*shrugs*
And if my interpretation is correct, I don’t think Lorde is alone in thinking this, either-a lot of people in the EDM scene share her sentiments about Guetta, myself included.
As far as Hammer goes, most rappers just disliked his gimmick-y persona, with the flashy dancing and balloon pants, he wasn’t seen as very “street” and I think that’s why he didn’t get a ton of respect in the rapping community, not so much about “selling out” by wanting to cross over into other media markets.

“I understand that you only have a problem if the older person in the relationship is old enough to be their partners mothers/fathers. ”

Read carefully. I never said I didn’t have a problem with a 25-year-old dating a 17-year-old, I clearly stated I would shade any dude that thought that was ok, but it doesn’t make me want to vomit the way a 40-year-old dating a teenager would–the maturity and life experience gap is simply nowhere near as wide.

I love you V4Real, but I think your bias is showing here-I know you don’t like Lorde.
Personally, I like Lorde, but I’m not married to defending her. If she says something stupid, I have no problem calling her out on it.
But overall, I think for a young woman, she represents herself extremely well (so far) and the critiquing of the “he’s gross” comment is just because there really isn’t a lot to fault her on-people just need SOMETHING ya know?

@Kitten No harm, no foul but do you see what you just did here? You said that neither of us are psychics, we don’t know what she meant and our reading into it is pointless. However right after that you go on to say say that if your interpretation is right and you went on to explain why. Didn’t you just do the exact same thing I did by stating what you thought she meant? As far as we both know, she could have just been a 16 year old girl calling a man gross because of the way he looks. It could have had nothing to do with EDM or his crossover songs. We are just both stating our opinions. I was looking at it in the manner that she said it. She was asked about working with David and her response was he’s gross. That’s a typical response of a teenager when they find something or someone disgusting or unappealing.

As for Hammer, I used him because some rappers were calling him a sell out once he received endorsements as well as TV fame. It wasn’t just about his gimmick, they were saying rappers don’t act. Rappers don’t push endorsements for Pepsi, for instance. He talked about the reason they called him that.

Let’s not accuse each other of what we have accused other posters of doing. You are saying that you know I don’t like Lorde. How can you say you know I don’t like a person if I have never said it? I love Angelina but people have accused me of being Team Aniston because I dared to say something negative about Jolie. I defended Lorde’s song by saying it wasn’t racist. If I really didn’t like Lorde I could have pointed out the stereotypes in those lyrics like some people have done. I just view it as a song where she points out that a lot of artists are constantly bragging about their rides, jewerly and so on. Now do I think something is off putting about her, yes I do. But if I don’t like her I will let you know. I used to adore Beyonce until I learned how much of an egotistical pretentious woman she turned out to be.

I tend to talk about the double standards on this site and Lorde just happens to fall into the category of one of the double standards I talk about. She was 16 when she started dating her older bf. Her fans are not calling her out on this but they would do it to a celeb they didn’t care much for. She has the nerves to call David gross (whatever she meant about it) but she did a remix of Royals with a man who constantly degrades women in his songs and talked about raping a woman. (Oh and he also brags about his Maybachs . I think you’re saying that critiquing her on something so minimal as calling another person gross is trivial, you’re right but don’t we do that with almost every celeb on here, no matter how small or large or harmless the comment might be. If that was Swift calling David gross, we would have been talking about her as well.

It’s like one commenter said, perhaps we don’t know much about Lorde and that’s why people readily jump to her defense. We are finding out more and more about her which is causing people to have various opinions. I have stated many times we will defend the hell out of a celeb we are partial to (myself included) but call others haters beause they feel differently about that celeb.

I apologize for misinterpreting your older person younger person statement. Please forgive me for all my extrapolating but sometimes a broader view is what’s needed. I like you a lot as well and it’s good to know that we can have a difference of opinions without taking it to the extreme. Like I tell other posters some of us have the capability to disagree and keep it moving without holding grudges and meet up on the next topic where we might share the same opinion. As long as we are not judging each other but judging the celebs like we are supposed to do, we are doing exactly what this site is intended for.

@Anna Lorde song is copyrighted and written by her, he would need her permission to do so.

I think it’s good to see two successful female stars hanging out – I know the media likes to make us think that all female stars have it out for each other. And lol, Swifty isn’t boy-crazy, I can think of a million other things she and Lorde would talk about. They have a lot in common.
And I don’t find the age gap weird at all, I think it’s more of a big-sister kinda thing and I have that with a few older friends.

I love her music, however, I can kind of understand why people that don’t know much about her or listen to her music think that all she does is sing about boys. She’s had like six boyfriends in the last five years but the media has linked her to like fifteen guys included the six.
I don’t find the age gap weird, I think Lorde is the kind of teen that gravitates towards older people anyway – her boyfriend is 25 (yikes). So I’m not surprised by this and I don’t see what’s wrong with it, the boyfriend though, yeah I side-eye that one.

I think it sort of makes sense. Lorde is so young and Taylor, while not exactly old, has been in the business since she was a teenager herself, and understands what Lorde is going through, and what Lorde is up against. I think they probably do enjoy hanging out, and I also think that Taylor has probably taken Lorde under her wing as a slightly-older, much wiser in the workings of the biz, mentor. As much as we sometimes hate on Swifty, I can’t really think of a better person to be helping to guide Lorde through the music industry machine at the moment.

How old is this Lorde girl, 17? What is wrong with a 24 year old woman that she hangs out with children? Her last 2 “boyfriends” were teenagers also. When I was 24, I would have cracked up if a 17 year old child tried to be my BFF! It seems to me a person needs some sort of psychological or emotional problem to even be in show business.

I think it’s because she’s been in showbiz for so long and thus has been surrounded by grown-ups a lot and has had to make adult decisions for a while now. She might feel she missed out a bit on the teenage experience, the carefree youth thing. She might be very mature in her professional life but as a person she doesn’t seem to have arrived in her mid-twenties yet.

But is Lorde “17″ or “Courtney Stodden 17″, because she looks OLD in that photo in the black dress? TBH I wouldn’t put it past the record company to massage her age to make “older and wiser than her years” her schtick…

I was scrolling through the pics and was hit with this thought, ” Oh, wow. Lorde is wearing COLOR! Nice little casual sweater. ” Then, BOOM! She’s in character again, in black (not casting aspersions, I love her). It just struck me as slightly comical.

Lorde could be a pefect friend for Taylor Swift, she might rock her boat and tell her the truth like how it is without sugar coating it like i’m sure every person around Swifty does. Swifty seems one of those delicate flowers that nobody wants to upset because she might start crying and never ever stop. On the other side if they’ll ever ‘break up’.. Oh Lorde.. help us! She might come up with a new song!

I kinda think the opposite. It’s like Lorde wants to be a part of the “cool crowd”, so she puts up with shit she normally wouldn’t in order to make Swift like her. It’s weird to me how Taylor seems to befriend young Hollywood.

“Swifty seems one of those delicate flowers that nobody wants to upset because she might start crying and never ever stop.”

Actually, Selena Gomez has said Taylor is the strongest girl she knows. You have to be pretty tough to make it in this business and Taylor has been working professionally with adults since she was 14. I’m sure she’s seen and has dealt with a lot.

Did anybody else see Lorde’s AMA on Reddit? It was a bit short, but she still came across really well. I found her quite witty.

Re: the Swifty/Lorde age difference- meh. I suspect that this “friendship” is more a publicity thing, but Taylor’s supposedly really funny behind closed doors and they both work in the music industry, so I’m sure that there’s actually quite a lot that these two could talk about.

Do you know anything about the behavior of Gwyneth and Reese? Jeebus, all these Hollywood people are stuck up their own pants, and yes, stuck at the age at which they became famous. At least Gwynny made it to her early 20s.

(brrrrrring….brrrrrrrrrring….brrrrrii…)
“Hallo?”
“Hi, Lorde? This is Taylor Swift.” (Pauses, waiting for accolades)
“Taylor Swift! Omg you are so famous!”
“I know. You are super famous right now too. Wanna be BFFs so I can seem relevant and cool?”
“Uuhhhhh…. Well….”
“Great. I’ll be down under soon for my birthday. I am gonna throw a massive party and be hugely suprised and shocked about it. I’ll expect you there. And whatever you do: don’t bring a photographer. Got it? Wink wink. Don’t bring a photographer.”
“Well, I was supposed to meet the Queen, but I guess I can put her off.”
“Cool. And whatever you do, do not bring that ugly boyfriend of yours. He’ll bring down my street cred.”
“Oh, but he is amazing guy…so smart and funny, and…”
“Yeah, whatever. Gag me. See you soon. Don’t forget, we are BFFs now. Send me a pic so I know what you look like. Gotta run. I have to work on my “oh my god, I won another award” face,”

Right? Everyone keeps making such a huge deal about it, saying “what do they have in common?” Oh, I don’t know, they’re both singer/songwriters who have been involved in the music business since before their teens, who are both currently hugely popular and famous. Yeah, they must have nothing to talk about…… -__-

Oh my it seems Lorde wants to be a part of the cheerleader/prom queen-clique. Girls dream of it even if they say they´re too cool, different and intelligent for it… deep in their hearts they want to belong to the popular girls. She´s a teenager after all.

I’d like to see the Jennifer Lawrence and Lorde alliance. It will be the antithesis of the unholy Rihanna and Katy Perry alliance. They’ll discuss upcoming museum shows, go thrift shopping, wax poetic about who is hotter: Rupert Friend or Orlando Bloom?, have a joint magazine interview discussing Miley flashing her boobs (again) and then end up glittering bombing each other on the red carpet of the Oscars.

LMAO!! You and Singtress win the internets today. Now that is a friendship I’d like to see happen. Someone needs to make it happen!!. Lorde is rather articulate, mature but to a degree she is a little immature (She’s only a teenager so she’s got alot of growing up to do) and do think she gets misinterpreted as shes rather opinionated. I like her for being a strong, smart and opinionated young lady when compared to Swifty (I can’t stand the whole fairytale and I got dumped schtick). Even if Taylor Swift did reach out to her, its still a nice and friendly gesture on her part as Lorde new to the whole showbiz business.

I’m hardly a Swift fan, but I will say this for her, she has sort of… Improved, I guess? Like, when you compare her old stuff to her new stuff, there is marked growth. Her old songs were pretty painful high school fairy tale stuff that either talked about how perfect a guy was, how fairy tale their romance would be, or something hating on another girl or playing the victim in her failed romances. The stuff of her latest album though is less ‘play the damsel in distress/victim” and more “this relationship failed because one if us acted like a moron” and “hey ladies, let’s have fun tonight and not worry ourselves to death about stupid shit.” Even the songs where she is a victim, it’s less whiny and passive aggressive and more realistic and confrontational.

Don’t get me wrong, she’s still a Pollyanna and still silly, but she’s not as painful as she once was. Maybe she’s struck up a friendship with Lorde to help herself along the path of growing some damn ovaries. If you ask me, it seems like Swifty has come to be as sick of her wishy-washy bullshit as the rest of us.

Also, yeah, I never felt like Lorde was trying to insult Taylor. Just make a point about of idealized unrealistic stuff marketed to girls. She sort of included herself in a similar manner when she made that quote, so I really doubt she meant it cruelly. I actually like this set up. Like, Swifty showing Lorde the ropes to becoming a super star and Lorde enlightening her about the true nature of feminism and social issues.

God, Swifty. Stop pretending you’re a highschooler and hanging out with people 10 years younger than you.
This is pathological behaviour. Or just really convenient: the longer she stays a “young and wide-eyed little girlie”, the longer she can sell teen heartbreak albums.

Taylor seems like a girl’s girl, but I don’t think she’s forgotten Lorde’s comments.
Nonetheless, it’s generous of her to give this girl an opportunity because I’m not sure whether Lorde can persevere in this business with her attitude. (Does anyone remember Jojo?)

I didn’t know Lorde had a 25 year old boyfriend. That’s disgusting- what does a man in his 20s want with a teenager? And Taylor Swift is just as bad. She dated a high schooler, she is friends with Selena Gomez, years younger than she is, and she is now friends with a 17 year old? Do they just like people worshipping them?