tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post1363779206643828196..comments2017-06-19T11:44:11.050+03:00Comments on Dust of the universe: UP Summit XC 4 Ziad Bassilhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-66275644652981697262017-05-26T09:21:44.263+03:002017-05-26T09:21:44.263+03:00Hi Tom,
I&#39;ll try :-)
CheersHi Tom,<br />I&#39;ll try :-)<br />CheersZiad Bassilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-65407576096690248512017-05-26T05:00:23.468+03:002017-05-26T05:00:23.468+03:00Hi Ziad,
Any footage of this wing? Would be great...Hi Ziad, <br />Any footage of this wing? Would be great to see it on glide against the M4,5 or Chili 4. I understand it&#39;s not always possible. <br />Thanks for all your hard work!<br />TomThomas Lineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14328271812443386102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-4083960425660279412017-05-15T02:34:54.247+03:002017-05-15T02:34:54.247+03:00Good evening Ziad, if the XC4 is a Paragliding lik...Good evening Ziad, if the XC4 is a Paragliding like EN C but with an EN B homologation, would not it be fairer to compare it with those approved in EN C?<br />As EN B is one of the best but as in C where would you place it?<br />Thank you<br />pedro denizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00791437317462395138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-42586264760619623192017-05-08T21:36:32.335+03:002017-05-08T21:36:32.335+03:00I am interested in a comparison to the Delta 3 and...I am interested in a comparison to the Delta 3 and Sigma 10 versus the Summit XC4 as well. I have heard countless times of some Cs being &quot;easier&quot; to handle in normal flight than some High Bs. Of course, a pilot needs to have the necessary skills to make the right inputs on a C when things go wrong.<br /><br />I remember reading about the Alpina 2 being easier to fly than the Mentor 2 for example, which I admit seems counter-intuitive to the EN Classification. I have also heard the same about the Elan and Peter very clearly stated that he does not believe a pilot should choose a glider based on test reports, but instead to listen to the designer.<br /><br />I am flying a Chili 4 now and I am curious about jumping to a C this year, either Delta 3 or Elan 2 or Sigma 10. The weight ranges are great on all those gliders for me and who knows, these gliders may in fact be easier to fly than a Carrera or the Summit XC4... Hopefully Ziad&#39;s reviews may shed some light into this.Jorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09167114374144590366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-78281912122802345922017-05-08T10:22:42.219+03:002017-05-08T10:22:42.219+03:00Thank you !Thank you !Ziad Bassilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-20212423120846348502017-05-08T10:22:30.384+03:002017-05-08T10:22:30.384+03:00:-) :-) Ziad Bassilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-8319590787564436062017-05-08T10:06:34.613+03:002017-05-08T10:06:34.613+03:00Ive flown sm size xc4 for 10 hours aprox. Coming f...Ive flown sm size xc4 for 10 hours aprox. Coming from a gin zulu then hook 3./its a wild horse. Hook was buda xc4 is kim jung un or what ever his name is.Eduardo Ochoa Sanchezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13246667153635040696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-13339731842323840952017-05-08T00:49:35.938+03:002017-05-08T00:49:35.938+03:00Hi Ziad, first of all I would like to congratulate...Hi Ziad, first of all I would like to congratulate with u for your very interesting blog ... it&#39;s really helpful for us pilots to read unsponsorised and thus truthful reviews !<br />I just bought Summit XC 4 and flown it some hours long and came basically to your same conclusions.<br />I come from an advance Iota and I found this glider very very interesting .. fast, very powerful in light conditions and pleasant and funny to fly...however much more demanding in take off (probably due to the different aspect ratio 6.3 vs 5.5) and in flight.<br />Iota was a very safe glider and collapses were very very rare events which basically happened in very very rough air .. I feel Summit eaven harder to collapse (in fact eaven if I have flown it in very strong conditions I never experienced a collapse) but .. I feel the glider call for a more active and precise piloting ... nothing happen if u do not .. but the glider call for it ...<br />It&#39;s a very very interesting glider ... because it&#39;very safe and in the meantime it&#39;s a training tool for other less forgiving machines !<br />I am curious to read your review on delta 3 and sigma 10 ,,, as I am wondering if they will be less or ore active piloting demanding (their aspect ratio is in fact lower)...yes it&#39;s true those last two are c glider but as u say in the case of Summit the b certification looks more as a piece of mind then else ,,,<br />BR and once more compliments for your helpful reviews !<br />StefanoStefano Genazzinihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11443237374214534318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-87582566496143824882017-05-07T00:24:43.074+03:002017-05-07T00:24:43.074+03:00YesYesZiad Bassilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-81229512633565306332017-05-06T22:18:19.979+03:002017-05-06T22:18:19.979+03:00Thanks Ziad! Just to double check, more coordinate...Thanks Ziad! Just to double check, more coordinated handling and feel for the Summit XC4, right?Jorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09167114374144590366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-39030151874276934502017-05-06T19:46:12.785+03:002017-05-06T19:46:12.785+03:00Faster trim speed. More coordinated handling and f...Faster trim speed. More coordinated handling and feel. Close overall performance.<br />Cheers Ziad Bassilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-27590517415093570622017-05-05T18:55:34.660+03:002017-05-05T18:55:34.660+03:00Hi Ziad,
Taking weight range out the equation, an...Hi Ziad,<br /><br />Taking weight range out the equation, any advantages on the Summit XC4 compared to the Chili 4? <br /><br />Both gliders seem great as High EN-Bs but are quite different regarding Aspect Ratio. Any advantages of one over the other?<br /><br />Thanks!Jorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09167114374144590366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-61150191594719302152017-05-02T14:43:37.143+03:002017-05-02T14:43:37.143+03:00Hi Daniel,
It depends on your needs and overall we...Hi Daniel,<br />It depends on your needs and overall weight. Both the M5 and Chili4 are nice gliders.look at the comparison tool to get a bigger idea of agility, comfort...etc<br />Cheers<br />ZiadZiad Bassilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-22846658346123136732017-05-02T13:56:19.793+03:002017-05-02T13:56:19.793+03:00Hello Ziad, I&#39;m looking into buying a new glid...Hello Ziad, I&#39;m looking into buying a new glider this season and I was wondering which would be the best overall glider in your opinion between the Chilli4, Mentor5, Carrera Plus and XC4? I&#39;m coming from a Carrera Plus.<br /><br />Thank you and keep up the good workDaniel Alonsohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07560587869267136866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-4378479469249512032017-04-27T12:24:39.499+03:002017-04-27T12:24:39.499+03:00Hi Sylvain,
Yes .I&#39;ll try to fly it with the M...Hi Sylvain,<br />Yes .I&#39;ll try to fly it with the Mentor 5 and the Cayenne 5 :-)<br />Cheers Ziad Bassilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-25562575001815403632017-04-27T11:42:05.786+03:002017-04-27T11:42:05.786+03:00Hi Ziad, thanks for your review of this Summit XC4...Hi Ziad, thanks for your review of this Summit XC4. I think it could be even more relevant to compare it with other C gliders more than other B gliders, don&#39;t you ?<br />Cheers<br />SylvainUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03751094996318585384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-41646402793832138942017-04-26T23:57:24.810+03:002017-04-26T23:57:24.810+03:00Thanks a lot... Doubting about the XC4 SM or X-Rac...Thanks a lot... Doubting about the XC4 SM or X-Race SM... Have a full Season on the Lhotse S @90 (or even a bit +)... Love the lightness, agility, brake pressure, and even glide for such a glider... Just lacking a bit of performance to do real XC... Like you I love the UP-feeling... Looking forward doing some more testing... Had some short flights on the XC4, performance is a lot better just the agility seems a bit dull compared to my Lhotse S... Curious about the X-Race... Gianni Seghershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07717424655069970887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-14754687074628978732017-04-26T16:24:02.507+03:002017-04-26T16:24:02.507+03:00Hi,
this was very fast and now it looks better!!!
...Hi,<br />this was very fast and now it looks better!!!<br />ThanksPcarbonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15254265536663549590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-74907434464919784902017-04-26T16:00:59.031+03:002017-04-26T16:00:59.031+03:00Hi,
Trees a big difference.The comparison wasn&#39...Hi,<br />Trees a big difference.The comparison wasn&#39;t updated well.Now it&#39;s fixed.<br />The report will be available in an hour.<br />Cheers<br />ZiadZiad Bassilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-88913003337532469362017-04-26T15:47:58.571+03:002017-04-26T15:47:58.571+03:00Hi Ziad,as I have seen you all ready rated the XC4...Hi Ziad,as I have seen you all ready rated the XC4 in your B-comparsion. Overall I see not a big difference to XC3? I&#39;m still waiting patiently for your flight report for Summit XC4. I don&#39;t find a glider Careers plus.<br />Cheers<br />Pet<br />Pcarbonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15254265536663549590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-67437042038603395792017-04-26T02:50:37.787+03:002017-04-26T02:50:37.787+03:00Awesome! I will wait patiently ;)Awesome! I will wait patiently ;)Jorgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09167114374144590366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-52609149369485886302017-04-21T12:13:06.881+03:002017-04-21T12:13:06.881+03:00I have to compare it with the Careers plus...waiti...I have to compare it with the Careers plus...waiting for one.<br />Cheers Ziad Bassilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-43520659905545240912017-04-21T12:12:26.908+03:002017-04-21T12:12:26.908+03:00Waiting for the Careers plus...
Cheers Waiting for the Careers plus...<br />Cheers Ziad Bassilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-82084795321565687042017-04-21T12:11:56.530+03:002017-04-21T12:11:56.530+03:00Will do my best !
Cheers Will do my best ! <br />Cheers Ziad Bassilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8348590068263371056.post-68352410994336463972017-04-21T12:11:19.522+03:002017-04-21T12:11:19.522+03:00Yes..but I&#39;m waiting for the Careers plus in o...Yes..but I&#39;m waiting for the Careers plus in order to compare.<br />Cheers<br />Ziad Ziad Bassilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03160776372320390250noreply@blogger.com