Saudi Arabia - The next front in the War on Terror?

This is a highly speculative topic obviously as it is based on circumstance, so don't take it too seriously.
But it was important enough that I felt the need to post it.

Over the last several years I have seen what seemed to be an increase in news stories about Saudi Arabia and how backwards their society and law
systems are, and how corrupt the royals are, and so forth.

Even recently I have been subtly influenced by the MSM into making jokes about "liberating Saudi Arabia". I now am aware of this potential
manipulation and now I am curious what the plans (if any) are.

Does anyone have any insights about this?
Do you feel we are being led into a type of intervention in this region as a result of extremism/terrorism?

Important facts *Not comprehensive:
#1) Saudi Arabia has a lot of oil.
# 2) They are strict Muslims.
# 3) They have some serious issues vs Israel

I am open to both scenarios whereby the royals are ousted by outside forces, and where the royals are plotting to destroy their own people's heritage
in conjunction with outside forces.

The U.S. will never go to war with Saudi Arabia if that's where you're getting at.
I don't know why but I have that feeling. Like after 911 only Saudi Nationals were allowed to fly in airspace...

They really aren't strict muslims. Islam, from what I understand, is a very modest religion and they don't prize material things like the west
does. Well, Saudi's (for the most part, from what I understand) are very materialistic. Surely you've seen the princes gold cars with diamond
encrusted rims.
and.
Dubai

Originally posted by kimish
The U.S. will never go to war with Saudi Arabia if that's where you're getting at.
I don't know why but I have that feeling.

I think most of us have felt that way, and indeed those who have payed close attention probably feel as if Saudi Arabia is untouchable.

But what if this resentment is by design, and intended to lead us into a reckoning of sorts?

Could Saudi Arabia become the 'crown jewel' of the War on Terror?

I realize Almost everything appears contrary to this assessment, but notice I said almost, which means there is indeed room left for this scenario to
develop. Highly unlikely it would seem, but a possible eventuality yes.

The Saudi Royals would sacrifice their own people if it suited their interests, and also, I wouldn't be surprised if the global elites are willing to
sacrifice the Saudi Royals if it suits their machinations as well.

Remember, the US co conspired with Iraq in all sorts of ways, that's well known.
But look what happened there.

Not at the moment.
Like Kuwait, the 26 or so million Saudis are dependent on US protection.
There are many corrupt and religious clowns in the world, and this does not equal an invasion.
Otherwise the ANC would have been removed from South Africa by an US invading force (which only took Mandela's party off its terrorist list in 2008,
although they also funded them), because the corrupt circus here sometimes beggars belief.

But as a thought experiment and flight of fancy I'd say the West simply places sanctions on Saudi Arabia and its ruling class's military when they
don't behave.

Soon a similar Wahabi sect (in the sense of legalism, but not foreign relations) will take power and execute some of the more corrupt and decadent
royalty.
Most will repent and be forgiven. Oil wells will be destroyed or sold to enemies of the US.
The monies will be distributed in a more "socialist" way, which means a new elite and army, and some scary weapons.

They won't get together with Iran because those are Shiites, and the animosity with Sunni Wahabis is probably greater than between Catholics and
Protestants.

Now what?

The refugees can leave and the rest can go back to herding camels in the desert.

The radicals can provoke a Western response, and when the Muslim holy sites are threatened World War III will break out.

Europe has long opened the gates of Vienna and allowed Wahabism inside.
That will be the European civil war from hell.

Saudi Arabia could be easily destroyed by the US with targeted weapons.
But what to do with fast Islamizing Europe?
One can't just nuke all the Christians between the enemy?
Then Iran would get involved, and probably choose the side of fellow Muslims (no matter how begrudgingly).
Moderate Muslims in the West will suffer greatly.
Westerners in Muslim countries will suffer.

Bam!
I can guess who will win.
That's why Islamists don't want open battle but gradual infiltration.

Anyway, enough fantasy for one evening.

Power relations are complex, and despite Bin Laden and pro-terrorist ideologies on the one hand, Saudi Arabia also has deep roots with US political
cartels on the other.
They'll keep funding their Saudi friends (and vice-versa) to chase down those rogues.
Besides, what's a world without bad guys (depending on where you live)?

Ummmmmm........ *ANY* Western Power even joking in a Ha Ha way about occupational control of Mecca and Medina would be suffering really bad judgement
to have even made the joke, IMO. Saudi is Saudi and for their own people to sort out if it needs it. No western power, least of all the U.S., needs
all 1+ BILLION Muslims pissed at once.

That would about be the size of it, IMHO, if the House of Saud fell and anything remotely Western took control, even temporarily. Thats just my
general take on reading and studying a bit on the culture and history...and the statements of the people outside the Saudi Royal Family.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Ummmmmm........ *ANY* Western Power even joking in a Ha Ha way about occupational control of Mecca and Medina would be suffering really bad judgement
to have even made the joke, IMO. Saudi is Saudi and for their own people to sort out if it needs it. No western power, least of all the U.S., needs
all 1+ BILLION Muslims pissed at once.

That would about be the size of it, IMHO, if the House of Saud fell and anything remotely Western took control, even temporarily. Thats just my
general take on reading and studying a bit on the culture and history...and the statements of the people outside the Saudi Royal Family.

Maybe they already have incredible influence over Mecca and Medina and we just don't realize it in that light due to us missing some pieces of the
puzzle?

Maybe they don't control it 100%, but instead can just apply economic and political pressure to force capitulation?

However, let us also bring facets like Israel into this, and the philosophy of Zionism, etc.
There are many components to this highly elaborate set of equations, it's impossible for any one human to grasp in it's entirety especially
considering how many secrets or poorly understood things there are.

We aren't just talking about Mecca and Medina after all are we? We are talking about Jerusalem as well...
All these religions...all this instability....
All of the middle eastern nations that have been toppled and fell into chaos, etc.

Many times through history, allies were only so temporarily for convenience, and backs were stabbed. It's actually so commonplace in our history
books we could predict it with a reasonable degree of accuracy.

Like stated earlier, we aren't privy to a lot of information, and the fog of war hides the schemes of political intrigue.

Although I can see a lot of factors making Saudi an unlikely target, I can also see many conditions that make it ripe and more appealing to a lot of
interests.

No, I'm just talking about Mecca and Medina. Mecca specifically, between the two of them. The Saudi Royals took condemnation at various levels around
the world in 1991 for having let American boots onto 'sacred sands' in even being as close as they were to the two Holy cities by physical distance.

I don't know if you're religious or not ...but, I think the comparison would be The Ayatollah or Saudi Royal Family ..representing the two extremes
of Islam in the world these days, IMO, forcefully taking Vatican City. It wouldn't be nation states anymore, EITHER direction...but each of
the Faithful of the whole religion. There are far more sensitive and touchy places than the virtual mixed and open city of Jerusalem, to my
thinking.

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