Quite surprisingly, however, is the inclusion of Colin Kaepernick, the former NFL quarterback who — depending on one’s politics — famously or infamously began the kneeling protests that caused the league so much trouble last season. Kaepernick was already out of the league by then, but remained the inspiration of the protest movement. President Trump was very critical of the players who were kneeling, which is why Kaepernick’s invitation to the meetings is an eye-opener.

Pastor Scott says he doesn’t want to “sanitize” the meetings of people from across the political spectrum, which he hopes will be “heated” but “respectful.”

According to People, the details of the mini-summits haven’t yet been worked out but should be by next week.