I wasnt crying about anything. A world first is a world first and congrats to the other guilds who have gotten them all. Just saying I am excited to see if they will be able to down the final encounter this week vs other guilds that will not be entitled to that chance

It is just silly all these people engaging in e-peen contests by proxy on behalf of the guilds that did or did not skip bosses. Vizier was overtuned and naturally got hotfixed, a few guilds who were unlikely to take out world first Empress in any case skipped Vizier and accepted that this meant they wouldn't get to down HM Empress in the first week. We will almost certainly see the usual suspects complete a full clear before the end of this lockout. So... so what? Grats to Method, grats to those guilds that skipped the first boss and got some early kills, grats to whoever takes the crown at the end of the week. Shrug.

Yeah, by that logic, every guild who failed to clear all of FL in the first week on heroic = not even in the race. That means even Paragon wasn't *in the race* after the first raid week ended. I mean, we can say that for Ulduar, Icecrown Citadel, hell any instance in recent memory.

Yeah, by that logic, every guild who failed to clear all of FL in the first week on heroic = not even in the race. That means even Paragon wasn't *in the race* after the first raid week ended. I mean, we can say that for Ulduar, Icecrown Citadel, hell any instance in recent memory.

lol what? paragon like cleared heroic fl on 2nd week? meaning they had to clear it on normal the first week, and second week they had to clear all on heroic to access heroic rag.