what checklist did you follow for the clean install, I think I need to do that? Thanks

@pfcooper I always clean install along these lines. Having a definite plan in mind not only speeds up the process but also (imo) makes for a more reliable and trouble-free installation. It might help give you some ideas.

This is exactly my experience too. The less I fiddle with the system, the better success rates I have when updating or upgrading.

Same here. Before I bought my W10 last July, I read a lot about W10 and had come to the conclusion after reading the complains and success stories from people using W10 that to better the chances for a successful experience using W10, it was best to avoid using programs that mess with Windows or tutorials that do the same.

And thats what I done. Also, I avoid installing programs for testing or switching programs just because. I got my computer on July 8th, by the 10th I had installed the programs I was going to use in it, and I haven't switched or added any ever since. I also avoid installing scanners, antivirus or any program that creates a lot of changes in the system. On top of all that, I use Sandboxie to run programs to avoid making changes to the system, registry, etc. In my opinion, what I do with my W10 is huge for a healthy W10. It might be a little boring for some but it works locking down the system and for dodging all kind of issues.

Bo

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Same here. Before I bought my W10 last July, I read a lot about W10 and had come to the conclusion after reading the complains and success stories from people using W10 that to better the chances for a successful experience using W10, it was best to avoid using programs that mess with Windows or tutorials that do the same.

And thats what I done. Also, I avoid installing programs for testing or switching programs just because. I got my computer on July 8th, by the 10th I had installed the programs I was going to use in it, and I haven't switched or added any ever since. I also avoid installing scanners, antivirus or any program that creates a lot of changes in the system. On top of all that, I use Sandboxie to run programs to avoid making changes to the system, registry, etc. In my opinion, what I do with my W10 is huge for a healthy W10. It might be a little boring for some but it works locking down the system and for dodging all kind of issues.

Bo

I couldn't agree with you more. That's exactly what I tried to do also, meaning avoiding, the best I possibly can, third-party apps except for those with good reputation and really necessary in the genre of Macrium Reflect. My understanding is that more and more Microsoft wants users to use (sorry for the pun) only apps from its store. Microsoft will never officially put out such recommendations, but one has to read between the lines.

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I couldn't agree with you more. That's exactly what I tried to do also, meaning avoiding, the best I possibly can, third-party apps except for those with good reputation and really necessary in the genre of Macrium Reflect. My understanding is that more and more Microsoft wants users to use (sorry for the pun) only apps from its store. Microsoft will never officially put out such recommendations, but one has to read between the lines.

I think your right that MS wants us to only use the apps from the store and predominantly their native ones. Trouble is I think the modern apps and their store is probably the buggiest part of windows 10. I would never ever install a large game from their store. The amount of trouble over the past few years I’ve had with their apps has been very grating. Especially when they update one of their native apps. The impact on other user accounts on the PCs we own is not always favourable. But I don’t think they care to test how an updated app might work across user accounts other than the one it was updated on.

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I have the same problem on three pcs.
After the Cumulative Update KB4103721 the pcs cannot boot and they are stuck on the spinning wheel.

I restored them from the backups and for the moment I have disabled the windows update service till I have more information on the issue.

Same issue here with one laptop. Was able to install this CU into another one just fine, though. Ironically, I had the spinning wheel problem with 17134.5 in that other laptop. Just wondering, are the 3 PC you mentioned desktops or laptops, or both?

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I think your right that MS wants us to only use the apps from the store and predominantly their native ones. Trouble is I think the modern apps and their store is probably the buggiest part of windows 10. I would never ever install a large game from their store. The amount of trouble over the past few years I’ve had with their apps has been very grating. Especially when they update one of their native apps. The impact on other user accounts on the PCs we own is not always favourable. But I don’t think they care to test how an updated app might work across user accounts other than the one it was updated on.

Another way to see it: It is like " being taken between a rock and a hard place". What can one do?. For now, Microsoft seems to have the upper hand..

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@ddelo
Just realised that the registry key (to get rid of the Insider message) is not there as standard (it gets created by GPO) and has to be manually created first w/o it - thus the proper PS command would be:

I have tried many different ways of installing Dropbox: regular download through their website, ninite.com, and their offline installer of the latest stable build (48.4.58) - none are letting me successfully install this app.
As mentioned in the...

After updating to 17134.1 and .5 my update History was cleared and new updates would not show in History.
I got these Builds from the Insider RP ring.
I have now left the Insider program, removed the .5 update and my 3 systems are now on Build...

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