JAILED TWICE One of the victims of martial law abuses, Carmencita Florentino, 64, is shown peering through the screen door of her home in a poor area of Tatalon, Quezon City. More than 9,000 victims stand to receive compensation from the $246-million fund the government recovered from the Marcos wealth. Florentino was jailed twice, in 1977 and 1978. Bullit Marquez/AP

Never again.

So the nation will remember not to forget, a bill that recognizes for the first time that the Ferdinand Marcos dictatorship committed atrocities against Filipinos also mandates the teaching in schools of the abuses inflicted on its opponents and the heroism of those who fought the regime.

The bill, ratified by the two chambers of Congress on Monday and awaits the signing into law by President Aquino, creates the Human Rights Violations Victims’ Memorial Commission and lays down guidelines for monetary reparations to the victims from a P10-billion fund out of the ill-gotten wealth recovered from Marcos.

The memorial commission is tasked with collaborating with the Department of Education and the Commission on Higher Education (CHEd) “to ensure that the teaching of martial law atrocities, the lives and sacrifices of [victims of human rights violations] in our history are included in the basic, secondary, and tertiary education curricula.”

The memorial commission will also establish, restore, and preserve a memorial, museum, library and compendium in honor of the victims as outlined in the policy statement of the bill, called The Human Rights Victims Reparation and Recognition Act of 2013.

The bill states: “It is hereby declared the policy of the state to recognize the heroism and sacrifices of all Filipinos who were victims of summary execution, torture, enforced or involuntary disappearance and other gross human rights violations committed during the regime of former President Ferdinand E. Marcos covering the period from Sept. 21, 1972, to Feb. 25, 1986, and restore the victims’ honor and dignity.”

The memorial commission will be run by a board of trustees led by the Commission on Human Rights chair, and composed of the secretary of education, heads of the National Historical Commission, the CHEd, the National Commission on Culture and the Arts, and the University of the Philippines-Diliman Main Library.

Roll of victims

The bill also creates the Human Rights Victims’ Claims Board, an independent and quasi-judicial body tasked with receiving, evaluating, processing and investigating the applications for monetary compensation.

The board is also called upon to draw up a “Roll of Human Rights Victims,” regardless of whether they sought reparation or not, to be displayed in government offices. A compendium of the victims’ sacrifices will also be prepared and posted on the Internet, the bill states.

The President will choose the nine members of the board, and human rights organizations may submit a list of nominees.

The board must complete its work within two years from the effectivity of implementing rules and regulations concerning the measure.

A martial law victim may file an application for reparation with the board within six months from the effectivity of the implementing rules, according to the bill. Failure to do so within that period will be deemed a waiver.

For the victims who are deceased, incapacitated, or missing due to enforced disappearance, their legal heirs or representatives may file an application for reparation on their behalf.

Any application may be opposed if the challenge is filed within 15 days from publication of the official list of eligible claimants. Those found by the board to have filed fraudulent claims will be prosecuted.

Conclusive presumption

The bill also states that the 9,539 plaintiffs in the litigation against the Marcos estate in a Hawaii court will be given the conclusive presumption that they are human rights violations victims.

To be given the same presumption are those victims recognized by the Bantayog ng mga Bayani Foundation.

In determining compensation, the board will use a system assigning points—from one to 10—to each claimant depending on the severity of the abuse suffered.

Victims who died or disappeared and are still missing will be given 10 points; those who were tortured and/or raped or sexually abused will be given six to nine points; and those who were detained, three to five points.

To be awarded one to two points are those who suffered any force or intimidation leading to their voluntary exile abroad; and those who suffered force, intimidation or deceit causing the unjust or illegal takeover of a business, confiscation of property, detention of owners, or deprivation of livelihood, including those caused by the Marcoses and their immediate relatives and cronies.

To be given the same points are those who were kidnapped or whose children were exploited; those who suffered sexual offenses while detained or the subject of military and police operations, and those who suffered similar or analogous abuses.

Compensation will be made within 30 days after the board approves with finality each eligible claim and publishes it.

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bogli_anakdami

flips are gung gongs… never learned a thing…

martial law murderers rule flipland… still on top of their games…

how was/is martial law considered an “atrocity” when

BONG, IMEE, SANTA ATE IMELDAPHUK live grandeously in the midst of flips gung gongs who live in a cesspool???

What are you talking about?The best example of Marcos attrocities was the assasination of former senator Benigno Aquino,live on TV.I should blame this to you and your gang.You must be sleeping during the martial law days.Why don’t you just join hand in hand with Sen.Enrile,Sen. Honasan etc.?

Let the future generations know that once upon a time, a monster stalked this land and preyed on its people.

Noel

Those who were fair to Marcos said history would be kinder to Marcos. Years after his death, no less than Sen. Salonga and Gen. Corpus admitted that Marcos was not behind the Plaza Miranda bombing but Joma Sison’s NPA. Soldiers accused of killing the late Ninoy one by one confessed that Marcos had no hand in the assassination but the Aquinos refused to re-investigate. Why would they? If the truth comes out, Cory’s presidency would be illegal and illegitimate because it was Ninoy’s assassination that triggered Marco’s ouster.

KapitanBagwis

MARCOS pa rin. Hindi kayo titigilan ng multo ni Marcos.

http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

Kapitan…B-A-D–W-I-S-H ;yan.

FORPNOY

Let us also know how a savior “saint” came to save the people, killing the monster, again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again,… until the people aged without receiving help from the hero.

http://profile.yahoo.com/YENFNHZJ527TMYYAHF32G7O2BE joe

Good job. Now Marcos is in history with his Martial Law atrocities. Don’t forget Juan Ponce Enrile’s staged, faked ambushed that justify the declaration of Martial Law. Please include how many innocent people were murdered, disappeared and tortured. How much money of the Filipino people the family Marcos has plundered.

http://profile.yahoo.com/HFDGBGI6RTVYTYN3X6OP2DVX4A droids

1.2 TRILLION PESOS WERE SPENT UNDER CORY IN JUST SIX YEARS ( see her accomplishments), 440+ BILLION SPENT BY MARCOS ADMINISTRATION IN 20 YEARS, who is more corrupt and incomptent, you do the math?

KapitanBagwis

MARCOS pa rin. Dinadalaw kayo ng multo ni Marcos.

FORPNOY

And in addition to that, please include those who suffered from the Hacienda Luisita massacre, the Hacienda Luisita that was apparently immune to Cory’s CARP, and how she started the privatization of the government owned-corporations, which also started the increase of the gap between the poor and the rich. Let us be fair :)

Zafrul Islam

Will ever Hacienda Luisita be Taught in Schools.. as a form of Slavery…

http://twitter.com/neps365 Prince Neps

Ha?????

Noel

Such ridiculous and stupid idea will create precedence. We might as well teach the sins of GMA who was worse than Marcos. We might as well teach the sins of the Catholic priests and her leaders who meddled in the political and economic affairs of the government. We might has well teach the sins of Cardinal Sin who used the church to oust two duly elected Presidents. We might has well teach the grand conspiracy of the Catholic Church, Yellow Brigade, Business elite, ambitious police and military officials, Communists and leftist groups, US-CIA in ousting Marcos and Erap. Take note the same groups. It was not coincidence.

Karabukov

Well, why not? The idea is to put both the good and the bad in our history in their proper perspective. You think GMA was worse than Marcos? I’d say that GMA was bad enough but worse than Marcos is taking it a bit too far. And as bad as Marcos was, he was no Hitler. You want to “teach” the “sins of Cardinal Sin”? You have to be prepared to make your case against contrary accounts and opinions. Some things we do need to know to go forward and avoid the pitfalls, but truths about the past need to be verified and re-verified. History, like current news need to be examined and re-examined in the light of truth, as opportunity, appropriateness and balance allow, but knowledge is, I am certain you will grant, preferable to say the least, to ignorance.

FORPNOY

I agree. Everything that happened in the past should be verified, and should it be placed in our history, it must not be written with biased hands. Only then will the Philippines move forward.

Karabukov

All history, like news, have bias.

But some are more biased, one way or another, than others.

Which is why democracy, for all its faults, is better than all its alternatives, where your information comes only from official sources.

Noel

First of all, why single out Marcos. Cory’s corruption (not necessarily she but her people) surpassed Marcos’ 20 years in only six years. Why not also teach about her good looking brother Peping, the head of then Kamag-anak Inc. An old poor congressman (De Guzman) even became the fall guy in the gun smuggling (guns owned by Peping). His wife Tingting who’s running for senator was called “White Lady”. As for Cardinal Sin, his name already shows the many sins he committed. He used to be a close friend of then Imelda Marcos. One video showed him laughing and clapping while Imelda was dancing in one lavish party. For some reasons, Sin became a bitter enemy of the Marcoses in the end. Sin helped (better term is conspired) in ousting Marcos and Erap for corruption. Yet, he was silent not even a word of criticism against GMA’s nine years of worse corruption. Before his death, GMA gifted him with a diamond ring on his birthday. One time (one of the last), FG Mike donated P1M check to Sin. All these were reported in the media without any denial. Besides, I myself had first hand knowledge about the whole thing.

Karabukov

The Marcos dictatorship was a significant part of recent history. You do have a point in that it has to be fair and balanced. Even the re-telling of history has to evolve as differing opinions and accounts arise and the struggle for balance continue. But even so, you seem to lack depth in your very opinionated post, as if your facts confirm your points conclusively. Even your “first hand knowledge” a good accounting of which is all that can save your credibility but which you only claim to be so, is just one blind man’s knowledge of what an elephant looks like.

TGM _ERICK

A million likes!

$18209031

With many kunsabong ilocandio and tagalegleg historians, much of the real history of Marcos Dictatorship and crimes will be erased and forgotten . Revision of history is what they are good at since time of Kachilas , Kanos and up to present.

FORPNOY

you’re so mean :(

how dare you call us names? and how dare you use that username? yuck. :|
please, can’t the filipino people just be one about this and be supportive of the present developments of the Philippine by Noynoy?

I am for the Philippines and all I want is the Philippines to stop pointing fingers and playing the endless turuan game. The Philippines is already scarred for life because of the Marcos-Aquino conflict. But why won’t we let the wound heal and let the tissues regenerate and combine into a stronger skin for the Filipino People?

It’s not the time to tell who is right or wrong, who is stupid or educated. The Philippine’s is not about the two big families, heck they are big because of the people. The people are the ones who are right. This is democracy. We support what we know is good for us, but we should not support the ones who fought for us using a double-edged sword. This is our land – not the Marcoses, not the Aquinos.

Let’s support the Philiipines’ Development and think what we can do to make it better.

just make sure the history language is not plagiarized from ‘merkan or other history books…

kreutz013

so this will be another government funded commission,..

by doing this,.. you’re also making the marcos name immortal in history,..
not to mention making the man and his family a celebrity,..
i’m not saying what happened needs to be forgotten,..

let’s just move on,.. and have the government spend the budget,..that will benefit our fellow countrymen that actually needs help,..

FORPNOY

this bill is depressing. i don’t see anything in this bill that would be able to lead the country towards greatness. it’s clearly a brainwashing tactic of a dictator trying to double, triple, quadruple kill his enemy since he is now in power (if ever he signs this bill into a law).

please. what are you trying to teach the kids? vengeance is good? that you don’t have any choice because you have developed a trauma/depression/inferiority, whatever complex? THINK ABOUT IT. IT’S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT YOUR GENERATION. be sensitive! DON’T LET ME LOOK DOWN ON YOU. YOU’VE BEEN DOING SO FINE FOR THE PHILIPPINES, BUT WHY NOW THIS? (if ever he passes this though)

JK1000

Idiot ! Stop your stupidity. Young people needs to know why the country suffer now because of the evil deeds done by the marcosses and their cronies. Before Ferdinand Marcos came to power the Philippines was ranked as number two in Asia,after they were forced out from power the country was in despair beyond repair. The NO SHAME Marcos family pocketed most of the money and left the country with $32 billion in debt which until today we’re still paying for it.

FORPNOY

He didn’t left the country. He was forced out of it. Debt remained to be unpaid because his projects were stopped. With the projects, the government could have paid it in 5 years time. What the young people need to know is that corruption is bad and that we should respect human rights. But we can do this without pinpointing particular persons as if we have not commited any sin or so. Let’s be open-minded, sabi nga ni Pnoy.

What you mentioned are isolated cases which are not in the same category of a conjugal dictatrship that lasted for almost 20 years and victimized thousands.

In fact, the dictatorship victimized the whole nation, millions of filipinos, because the economy was at its lowest point and the philippines was the basket case of asia compared to being no.2 before marcos became president.

This is the only time that I hear of a personal event being put into law. Why not make a general aw without being personal. onli in da pilipins, bulok. Kaya hanggang ngayon mahirap tayo. Pinag-iisip natin ang mga liders natin na ang mga utak ay nasa talampakan. Alien yata itong mga nangagsiupo sa pamahalaan. Mga pusakal sa kagaguhan at pagnanakaw.

boybakal

Marcos sins, victims’ woes to be taught in schools…

This is too much…not only checkpoint Ambush but Overkill.
Imagine, children will have to study up to K12, ngayon naman Marcos will be taught in school.
Have pity on school children, K12 plus hate, hate and anger.
Too young to be brainwashed and too young to be acitivists….for sure they will go to the mountain.

the people from manila are the ones closest to the media, historians, news, and all things high. but have you ever thought about what the other provinces feel about him? Manila is just a percent of the population of the Philippines. The other provinces were benefiting from Marcos’ reforms. But just because he decentralized his attention from manila to the other places, you feel bad about it?

Human right violations? There are a lot more powerful criminals and corrupt officials violating human rights in the Philippines, more than what Pres. Marcos did. But why is Marcos the only one? Why are the sins of the past mayor of my province not get known to everyone in the Philippines?

As long as there are mentally deprived individuals like you, brainwashed to the core, blaming everyone else except the guilty, the corruption you speak about will be allowed to fester and survive in the Philippines. Without doubt, there is still much corruption to eradicated, in different forms, committed by different groups, but if one can not realized the brutality of the Marcos regime against its opposition, then it is probably because you were part of that regime. Marcos dragged the Nation into the gutter morally and physically. His greed and laws protected the feudal oligarchy, stunting development and real modernization, while his flimsy social policies left a population of women working in brothels, and infrastructure laughable to any decent standards, etc. Just look at he sanitary health of the cities, regardless where you are in the Philippines. Open sewers, dilapidated roads, bridges that collapse after every storm, so on and on. That corrosive mindset has been carried on by his predecessors, using ‘communist fear’ mongering to justify their authority, merely to plunder the Nation further. There is finally a change towards more civil, open, and equal policies, something which seems to frighten the Marcos lackeys most.

FORPNOY

you have a good point sir. respect

AlexanderAmproz

In case what he did is as god as you believed you should be happy,

but remember he and his wife where the world wide most despised killer and kleptocrat

rulers at that time.

What was so chocking is the walls they built around the slums they have produced.

I-analyze natin ang pangalan mo — ipagpalagay lang na Br is break…AX is the word itself…82, the year when martial law was reported to have been lifted, Hindi naman totoong the AX was broken in1982. Tuloy pa in ang martial law.

okayayonip

GMA and FG will be jealous if their own corruptions are not included to this teaching.

Rae_E

This is 27 years late, thus it’s a milestone that congress finally passed this bill. This bill is a must considering the Marcoses/cronies efforts to revised history & entrenched themselves in power again. Never again! Unless the Filipinos learn how to hold accountable those who abused us (Marcos,Enrile,Estrada,GMA, etc), this country will never move forward.

eh sa autobiography ni enrile,nagustuhan daw ng taong bayan ang martial law nila.infact, enrile made his own history and the launching of his book is well attended by the rich and the famous people of the philippines including the president.the people who made these atrocities are still in power and never been punish! its high time that justice shall prevail…

KapitanBagwis

MARCOS pa rin !!!

batangpaslit

talagang loyal, eh?

http://profile.yahoo.com/AIYSIJJOL4JNRLHXVTGUH3NYHM The Overlord

In fairness, Marcos did reorganize the executive department of the country. The Regions of the Philippines as we see today are brainchilds of Marcos. As well as the Quezon Memorial Circle, Phil Heart Center, San Juanico Bridge, etc. He was the president who knew that to be a developed country, we needed to enhance infrastructure and defense. Marcos was truly a brilliant president, yun nga lang, greed for power came over him.

kung seryoso ang Aquino Administration to expose the evils of the Marcos Regime, why not have the case of the assasination be investigated with honest to goodness investigation and tell the Filipino people who really was behind his killing.

Orland, I fully concur of what you stated here. Am impressed of your courage for speaking the truth.
Siempre, the parties that carried out the airport incident was granted clearance by someone far more powerful than the President of U.S.A.

http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

You concurred…that means you do not believe Ninoy was a hero?

Should I start to rethink if saying sorry was wrong?

Ninoy came back amid all warnngs to him that he might be killed. “The Filipinos are worth dying for.”, sabi niya. He was killed while in the custody of fully armed military people. That was the beginning of the real end for martial law, which was very much abhorred by the Filipino people. That catapulted an inexperienced mother to the country’s political history. Indeed, martial law ended…a new Constitution came into being…democracy was restored.

i concur what was opined that Pres Cory knows who killed her husband.
where did you read Tsong that I negated the bravery of Ninoy?
Ninoy’s Aide, gave me a copy of the book that he reads authored by Colson.

dimoko kilala.
where were you in AUG ’83? where were you in FEB ’86?
where were you when “Operation Save the Queen” was launched?
where were you when the Cory Constitution was written?

you blame the Philippine Military for the death of Ninoy?
i find your person as extremely pathetic.
sa aking pagbasa ng mga sinulat mo, ikaw ang kamag-anak na Mastermind sa pagpatay kay Ninoy.
your vehemence to falsely accuse others—projecting the fault—is indicative of your guilty conscience.
to conceal your sins, you placed the blame to the hapless lowly ranked military personnel
the death of Ninoy.
ang reaction mo Tsong is the typical reaction of a guilty person.
buking ka, huli….hahaha

Cory and Pnoy could not thoroughly investigate the assasination of Ninoy for according to another side of the story, it is Danding Cojuanco who masterminded Ninoy’s death. IF a full proof that Is Marcos who had a hand I would consider Ninoy a hero. But as it is now, my feeling is that Ninoy is just panggulo.

Noypi11

It is now official that the atrocities of the Marcoses will be widely known and taught in schools. May mukha pa bang ipapakita itong sina BongbongMarcos at Imelda? Mga walanghiya! Siguro si Bongbong lamang ang hindi sumama sa batas na babayaran ang mga pamilya ng kanilang pinagpapatay at tinorture na mga Pilipino.

richard ortega

good for the next generation. it should be known around the world the atrocities of this family so the people will know that good prevails than evil. wish that they wont win again in national election.

One has to wonder how many doctors, inventors, and engineers, (scholarships) could have been produced for the nation on just half of Imelda’s shoe collection.

aristeosj

i think it’s long overdue.with a lot of revisionists of history(like Enrile)
in our midst,this should be made into law before bongbong marcos
and company make a book launching operation of their own version
of martial law(just like Enrile)!!!

Marcos victims?….who are they, the NPA, Communists, the Activists and the political oppositions.
Filipinos were not victims during Martial Law, maybe only few.
In totality, Marcos was the best President.
He was only courageous and bold President.
He was an innovator to bring the country out of poverty.
Look what he has accomplished which many of us enjoyed and succedding administration, maintained what he started.
Enough of Marcos bashing.

Sorry to correct your down to earth stupidity, it just shows how nefariously imbecile you are. Impious? yes, and just like the narcissist Marcos that you adore so much.

You are ignorant as hell!

“Willful Ignorance is both a life and death sentence” – James A. Zoppa

isnoy

@bakitkailangan… Boybakal have some good points. Let’s accept it, Marcos did a lot of good things for the country but also some bad things. But then, life is better during the Marcos regime. After Marcos, the government are more corrupt, more lies, more killing, no progress in our economy and that a lot of Filipinos suffers…. @b@bakitkailangan:disqus akitkailangan..This is our opinions and free to comment. I respect what you are saying but watch out with your foul languages which is very inappropriate.

good point ding. ver wouldn’t even know how tall the building he would be jumping out. he was a blind follower and that’s all that matters to him.

Magsasaka

ahahaha tabako’s troll

bogli_anakdami

sampu ako jan…

ituro lahat ang steps on how NOT to be a dicktator… just players in a dicktatorship like enrile, ramos, lacson, et al… para madaling magnakaws at walang kalaboso…

yun land di ba?

http://www.facebook.com/people/Riz-Manas/1414555877 Riz Manas

The Bill is now a LAW and all Filipinos must be abide by this LAW whether we like or not. Where were you when they are deliberating the Bill in Congress to oppose it? If you disagree with the LAW the remedy is to file a motion for reconsideration in the Supreme Court.

bogli_anakdami

just like any other law, it’s useless….

flip gung gongs will do whatever they want… just ask our traposakals in the admin…

Vote Bongbong for President, Imelda for Senator, Imee for Congressman and Irene for Governor. Ugh.

Camillo

Ituro ang TOTOO, lalo na sa Ilocos, sa mga balwarte ng mga Marcos!

AlexanderAmproz

God news, history is the roots of the actual disastrous situation,

Marcos atrocities should be remembered, some are still believing it was rosy time,

but his abuses put the country on the wrongest trend, the worst as possible.

Next step should be the Clergy, Plutocracy, Trapos and US abuses.

Poor Filipinos, so many ignored unfair and useless sufferances.

To know where to come from is the only way to know where to go for a better Future.

Money isn’t everything by far, its help only, but when none its smell death,

this was Marcos and Imelda greed and abuses consequences.

bogli_anakdami

will enrile’s chapter be longer than three words? … or will it ever even be mentioned?

AlexanderAmproz

He should be hang by the feet, his assets are a joke compare to the cost to amass them.

rickysgreyes

Peace everybody. I think by reading a lot of the comments here, it is clear our youth have not been taught the history of the Marcos regime. I was personally surprised one day when, in my office, my younger colleagues in their early 30s, said that “they really liked the Marcos regime”. Mind you, these are highly educated lawyers, economists and MBAers from Ateneo, La Salle, UST, etc. These officemates were against corruption during GMAs time – i.e. if they were old enough in 1986, I am sure they would be in yellow hanging out in EDSA. Our generation has failed to teach history to the next gen. I was 19 when EDSA 86 happened. I guess it’s hard to describe how it feels “not to be free” to others. It’s a feeling in your everyday life. You have this hate for the regime. You are terrified of the military and police. Like going through a checkpoint of the police constabulary at 12 midnight. You are alone and there is this real fear that the 4 cops checking you and your car could easily plant something. All the news in the papers and TV are always pro-regime and are lies, lies, lies (that’s why I still do not buy Manila Bulletin, thank God wala na Daily Express). Note that there was no Internet and mobile phones then, just imagine if all the info you get to read are lies. Saying something bad about the regime can literally get you killed. Kung Marcos time today, a lot of the bloggers here would be in Crame already, in cuffs, no kidding. You know someone, who knows someone, who was tortured, kidnapped or killed by the government (I personally think the 10,000 human rights victims is an understatement, there were more). You hear about the rapes, thievery, murders, abuses, tortures (like the aircon torture – the police take off your shirt, whether you are a man or a woman, and ask you to stand in front of an aircon for 6 hours) You are not at peace “in a national way” (again hard to describe) – its a feeling the North Koreans, Burmans and those of the Arab Spring have felt or still feel to this day. I am not really sure how all this can be taught in the classroom but it would be a start.

bagongpnoi

am still hoping that tabako and johnny will be there as palabok, they’ve been involved in almost all marcos activities during the martial law, i think it is just right to teach it to our children, how tabako became a president after serving marcos for a long time, as well as tandang johnny became a senator now a senate president who is so f&%$*g corrupt. they should also teach DELICADEZA!

After then, ngayon lang tayo uli nagkaroon ng Presidente hindi kulimbat. In less than 3 years, consistent ang transformation ng bansa. We are now beginning to reap what we failed after 1986, dahil sa kudeta at sa kulimbat administrations.

They were ordered closed — the Manila Times, Free Press, and other Truthful newspapers. Foreign issued were more factual amid all news blackouts and freepress curtailments, foreign newspapers were able to report what were happening in the country,

piggywig70

History should be objective. It should also teach the shortcomings, failures and sins of subsequent administrations. Cory’s failures were enormous. Corruption also flourished under her. And the same seems to be repeating under her son’s inept rule.

EOJ

Cory is not a dictator.

http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

Why don’t you start the move now…in the same token as to how this martial law thing was initiated, processed, and concluded.

They are doing this just now? This is how slow everything is
in this country. A whole generation
finished their “education” without knowing a very important lesson of
their own country’s history. The ineptitude of our legislators and educators is
mind boggling.

yesyesyo

The bill was filed in 1996 yet but passed only today with PNoy as president. The marcos loyalists resisted the passing of the bill in congress for 16 years. Now it will become a law. thanks to president aquino.

http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

You and the likes of you were the main culprits why we have a slow justice system. We are a democratic form of government, where all sides are heard, before final action is made. If only all were honest and truthful, our justice system would be a lot faster.

You can start it with yourself, or everyone’s ownself. Remember, if you want to make a change, start it with yourself.

Darating din naman yata tayo diyan. Una-una lang…history is part of our education system…so, why not. Katulad ng be extra cautious not to miss the letter ‘n” in your name, as it may expose the obvious.

bakitkailangan

“The study of history is a powerful antidote to
contemporary arrogance. It is humbling to discover how many of our glib
assumptions, which seem to us novel and plausible, have been tested
before, not once but many times and in innumerable guises; and
discovered to be, at great human cost, wholly false.” — Paul Johnson
British Roman Catholic journalist, historian, speechwriter and author

bagongpnoi

hmmm sounds good, more subjects, sana more teachers din, but then how about sa north? i dont think the marcoses will allow teachers to teach those topics, maybe. marcos did a lot of good things in our country during his regime but he did so many unacceptable things. it is just right for the new generations(future leaders) to learn about it, coz so many filipinos doesn’t know why we are sooo poor. i like it, hope its not a revenge, and i hope that soon they will teach GMA’s way of government as well.

moshki

…ahh yes… “History is written by the victors.” –Winston Churchill–

EOJ

Good news! When this law is implemented, all teachers will be required to incorporate this in some subjects like values ed and social studies.

Teahcers can not say no because it is the law.

$18209031

Calling on Sen Trillanes to implement Oplan Posas , to apprehend all the old dogs of the Dictatorship. Posas all the vestiges of the past, pave the way for a new Pinas. Erase all vestiges of corruption, oligarchy , warlordism and nepotism that started in 1946. The Northern Tribes were the sole bearer of the Manila Govt , from Tagaleglegs to Ilocandios dominating the halls of power. The corruption they have wrought through the years is beyond comprehension.

Sen Trillanes, the country looks up to you to change this rotten monopoly and pave the way for justice and equality to all peoples who suffered under the dark years of Marcos and Enrile. Oplan Posas dapat huhulihin mga yan.

Indeed, never again should we forget the dark days of Martial Law, which brought this country down to it’s knees and earned the shameful monicker “The Sick Man of Asia” during the Marcos era. It is only but proper that we should always remind the present and future generations of one of the darkest days in this country’s history so that history will not repeat itself. This is the least that we can do for the people and heroes who gave up their lives in fighting the dictatorship so that freedom will always prevail in this country. Also, never again should a member of the Filipino race grace the pages of the Guinness Book of World Records as the world’s biggest thief of all.

$18209031

Not only SIck Man of Asia but Crime Capital of SE Asia. In the early 80s it was dubbed as Asia’s Sex Tour Capital where Japo hentai lovers land and enjoy their perversions. Then they fly out towards Bangkok Red Light District for different tour.

http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

Then, were you able to make full use of the full meaning of your name during those early years of 80s, which were also the last years of martial law?

$18209031

Ding Dong Abante, are you still sick now or fat as a cat? did you s ck some Japo dck for his yen ?

The “Sick Man of Asia”… was he also the “Richest Man in Asia” …, the immediate aftermath of Ninoy’s expose, was first the ‘suspension of the writ of habeas corpus’ , then the declaration of ‘martial law’, then, the abolition of the Constitutional Commission that was drafting the new Constitution, then the conversion to Parliamentary form of government, then designation of the country’s first and only Prime Minister, then the perpetuation to stay in power, much…much beyond the 8 years maximum allowed by that Constitution?

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FNBBNCCS7FK4K6ZEMT2XMEN5JQ RAMONS

” history repeats itself “

watsupdoc

Let us be fair. If we have to teach our children how bad Marcos was, we should also teach them how greedy the Aquinos were by designing a CARP law so they could keep their 6,000 hectares Hacienda Luisita for almost 4 decades while the rest of our countrymen’s lands were confiscated by the government and paid them poor sums in installment payable for 10 long years. And when finally the Supreme Court decided to award the Aquino lands to the farmers, the vindictive son of the former President managed to kick out its Chief Justice.

we will teach the children the “marcos sins” but these kids will also learn that none of the marcoses went to jail.
we now have a marcos senator, governor and congresswoman. so what we are actually teaching the kids is that it is ok to “sin”

http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

Ikaw nga yata, puwede pang maging Thief Justice, di ba?

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICSSIYVAOFOV47APYEYWY47ZVM Martin

I agree to what you said Pad. But what our fellow Filipino does in the voting booth makes them get what they deserve.

Education is the way to go…..

ben

What bill are they going to pass about the construction of the Marhalika Highway from Luzon to Mindanao, The Heart Center, The Ambitious construction of the Leyte Samar bridge(The San Juanico Bridge), The mactan Bridge, and many more where no other politician can do the same? Also the first 3 years tranquility of our country during Martial Law, it was but unfortunate after that 3 years of peace and tranquility Imelda and her cohorts made 360 degree turn about its purpose. I would not think the Aquinos can do the same. The only thing I see in the Aquinos was protecting the Hacienda Luicita and putting Gloria and Corona to jail which is a very easy accomplishment by any president.

Max Tandan

and what about the thousands murdered, kidnapped by Marcos military rule?

ben

The thousands murdered, kidnapped by the marcos military rule is just an statistic.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_FNBBNCCS7FK4K6ZEMT2XMEN5JQ RAMONS

mas appropriate siguro kung hearsay kesa statistics ang gamitin mo.

ben

It is true that there were people killed during martial law. Take for example in our town province of Eastern Samar. These people killed were actually problems in the community. We never have sympahty for them we even very thankful coz it was the first time we were able to go anywhere in our town. The only thing I dont like is the were killed without due process of law but still it was good but not the best way to die. Look..its still happening today but most of the time without any reason except ka compensya sa jueting or sa politica.

we should also include the atrocities done by the NPA, Abu Sayyaf, MNLF, MILF whether against civilian or military so the children should know! gagawin na rin extra ang mga palpak ni Erap, GMA, at ang paghihirap ng bansa sa panahon ni Cory hanggang ngayon.

There is nothing wrong with the teachings in the school about martial law. If we teached the subject Rizal in high school and colleges, it does not mean that we are teaching hatred against the Spaniards. There is very good reason to do it because we want not a repetition of such very lamentable episode of our history as a free and democratic nation.

jgl41456

There is nothing wrong about teaching the atrocities done by the greatest thief in the world ( Guiness book of world records) to our young so that those atrocities will never be repeated!

Dapat lang. Bongbong was elected senator because majority of young voters have not heard of that Martial law atrocities. This is not about hatred or vengeance but about proper dissemination of truth and justice which is good for our political backbone.

regie

its about time. this very same people who oppressed the filipinos are still strutting their feathers as if they are now so clean and so pious and acting as if they are our saviours. sabagay kasalanan na rin ng mga filipino yan at nakabalik pa sila at ngayon ay naghaharihari na uli. kung romania lang tayo naku putol na siguro ang mga ulo ng mga yan….

Park Geun Hye, apologized to the people of South Korea for atrocities committed during the dictatorship of her father, Park Chung Hee. Her father established the dictatorship a few weeks after Marcos declared martial law. Park Geun Hye is now the president of South Korea.

Ilocano. Your kind is the very reason why this country cannot move. You cling to your stupid belief! Here is marcos: Pathological liar, the greatest thief, Faked medals, faked heroism and battle experiences, responsible for the miseries of countless Filipinos during his time and also the present. In spite of these “documented” facts, you ilocanos continue to be in DENIAL!!!! Just like some of the Germans who continue to deny the holocaust…My grandfather is from Laoag. He is Maximo Lazo. I feel sorry for you people. You worship marcos more than God!

this post should be the one be banned.. U RACIST! whats wrong for being an ILOKANO? ur been just jealous that the best president ever produced in Philippines is an ILOKANO?? and the worst presidents came from Central Luzon right? 2 AQUINOS and ARROYO? now they’re both stabbing with each other.. dugong aso.. and one more thing please know ur facts yet before you post those hearsay.. we dont worship marcos…we are just the living proof to profess that during his regime was the best of philippine’s time and glory. and worst for the communist activists konyo that they just deserve those under marcos kamay na bakal para madisiplina ang mamamayan. now nun si cory wala na upto tong anak nya.. HINDI NA UMUNLAD ANG BUHAY NG PILIPINO 25 YEARS NA LUMIPAS AFTER MARCOS DOWNFALL THEN YOU STILL BLAMING HIM? stupid right?

DAILY INQUIRER PROPAGANDA is a word golden to
this administration and it cannot live without it. It was propaganda which won
the unqualified and undeserving PNoy to land the presidency. The yellow
propaganda will be around in good measure the entire length of the BS Aquino
administration and for sure beyond because the big broadsheets, survey groups
and communications networks are under his thumb. These yellow media will be
here longer because PNoy will need them after his term to protect him and cover
his tracks so he will not suffer the fate of Gloria Arroyo in case his anointed
will not become president after him

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_SEELVC6DK2B7HXWCXDMTNQXLLE Jonas

yOU ARE JUST TRYING TO DESTROY MARCOS FOR 2016 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION……………….MARCOS PA RIN

How about this, what only focus in Marcos? Wherein up to GMA extrajudicial killings still happen. Why not teach them up to that period?

Ambias namn talga!

yesyesyo

The bill was first introduced in 1996 when arroyo was only in the middle of her term. there is no bias. the dictatorship is really a cut above the rest. the next generation should know its evils so it will not be repeated.

GaggerAlert

Well.. isn’t it that effing hard to ammend it?

Its just weird that the bill aims to only persecute the marcos regime even though it still continues today. Does Ampatuan ring a bell?

The main purpose of the bill is still to demonize the Marcoses, and elevating the Aquinos to be the one and truly saviour of our democracy.

Same goes with the Aquino’s for being tagged as collaborator with the Japanese during WW ll and Hacienda Luisita issues from land reform to killing of farmers. Also, with corruption of GMA and abuse of authority under ERAP administration.

It also include the “real” intention of these activists and their groups such as NDF, LFS, KM, etc. Can they denied that they are not a communist and have the intention to disrupt the government to gain public support? Today’s student should learn both sides of the coin.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

Very well said…lahat ng sinabi mo mga front ng komunista iyan…

Alim Labixa

careful what you wish for.

http://profile.yahoo.com/TFY5K3Y4ZQV5VKLX2SN4WSJDDY Luis

Past is past. What kind of values do we impart to them by teaching those things? Hope they focus more on how to uplift the education system – values, teaching, teachers’ benefits, etc…

mrcrabdribble

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – From the philosophies of Socrates, Plato, Aristotle. I googled that for you since you do not seem to have heard of that quote.

Never again is still a dream! In fairness, Imelda, Imee, and Bongbong are performing well in their region.

What about the other politicians? You have the goons, guns, and gold all over town. You have the dynasties. You have the sons and daughters of politicians who live in mansions on top of the hills. You have the private armies of the politicians. You have the corrupt politicans that may have looted the provincial treasury. You have the political families who run the fiefdoms like it is their own kingdom. Never again is just a voice in the wilderness. We don’t want them but their constituents keep on voting for them.

Too late, too little! We all know what happened during the MARCOS era, it was the Golden age of the Philippines! Philippines was 2nd to Japan that time. Haisst, itong mga YELLOW ZOMBIES na ito, may masabi lang sa history, mga bugoy..

6 years of cory is almost 1/3 of marcos’ rule, 9 yrs of gma is almost 1/2… so who is the best president among the three in terms of beneficial output? The three are corrupt. Ang mahirap eh iyong Marcos’ ill gotten wealth ay inill-gotten din nina COry aat GMA. Tanong mo sa PCGG!

Urban legend that only Filipinos can concoct. This is no different from the Robina Gokongwei and snake sister. Laughable. There is no single, again single, documentation of a family that gave credence to this tale. The accident was true. The burying of bodies was a lie.

What’s the use of teaching and teaching the evils the Marcoses
did, when the glaring fact and there for all to see reality is that the
survivors of Ferdinand Marcos shameful regime went on to live like royalty and
never got punished for their crimes and abuses of power and vast
unprecedented ill gotten wealth and loot, which set the example
for subsequent plunderers?

It’s not and never too late to demand return of everything that the Marcoses stole and
put the Marcos heirs and conspirators and cronies in prison.
You don’t even have to teach the history when everybody can
see what happens to them evil-doers and oppressors.

mrcrabdribble

Good point. But you must realize that one, major reason they (Marcoses) are where they are now is precisely because this generation was not ‘educated’ on the history of the Marcos rule. The youth voted them in office mostly unaware of the awful past of this clan. Better late than never to begin informing our children now of the tyrannical rule of Ferdinand Marcos.

NEVER AGAIN!, cried one of my Filipino workers. He was crying to get his job back for a stupid plant violation. He now cannot send his son to college. NEVER AGAIN!, cries the Filipino for the alleged Marcos-era violations. New people in government were installed, the country is still in shambles, and even worse. That’s what we get for hasty, and misplaced emotions. NEVER AGAIN!, we should cry to fix our unproductive mindset and unwholesome attitudes. What this country needs is a prudent and credible dictator to weed out the deleterious influence in us. Could that be possible ever?

If I remember right, we are marching before against the disappearance of Charlie del Rosario which happened before 21 September 1972. He was also in the forefront of the struggle against a looming one-man rule. There were countless others who disappeared with the suspension of the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus in 1971. In fact, Gary Olivar was imprisoned just after stepping out of the premises of ABS CBN after a television debate and this was because the privilege of the writ has been suspended that time. A KM activist, Rigoberto Tiglao was also bumped by a car because of his political beliefs. Does it mean that these people will never be recognized and their gallantry will never be given due respect because the Bill was only for those supposed victims after 21 September 1972? With this historical omission, I guess those who prepared the Bill were never in the forefront of the struggle and are pushing for the Bill, despite their myopia, only for personal aggrandizement and gain media mileage in the hope of reelection and a foresight for continuing their own brand of dynasty. Besides, there are documented disappearances after 25 February 1986 even up to this writing. The Bill must cover all of these people also and I hope the senators particularly Manong Juanito will see through this political ploy of Senyor Kho Rheena. It is immaterial into whose term of President a political activist disappeared or suffered – the point is the guy or gal disappeared, suffered or got killed. Otherwise, the Bill is only selective and geared only to demonize the Marcoses and hence, will suffer the same fate as the Truth Commission which only targeted those malfeasance that happened during the term of Senyora Glorya. Surely, a majority of the SC justices will see the class distinction.

TGM _ERICK

Just dig back at what Rigoberto Tigla is saying now about martial law and his joining the communist movement. You will be surprised that he regretted it. This was carried in his column during the height of Corona’s impeachment.

DerKommissar

Great plan. They should also teach the sins of current members of the Senate who have committed treason, by attempting to overthrow the Government and Democracy, and the value to a culture of holding traitors accountable for their actions.

kabaliktaran

“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.”
― George Orwell

There must be distinction between Martial Law victims that were fighting to restore democracy and so called “victims” that were plotting to shove communism down our throats. It is right to give justice to the former, but those who exploited the political chaos to promote communism (Miranda Bombing/NPA) must be prosecuted along with the dictator.

Second, how do one establish the direct link or knowledge of former President Marcos or even Manong Johnny to a torture done in the hinterlands of Samar or the hills of Negros or to an act of barbarity of some corporal or private who may have acted on their own in a fit of drunkeness? For if we allow such precedence, then, we can impute the crime to Senyor Simyon for an act of theft of one lowly clerk in Ilocos or Davao. Unfortunately, we can not overextend the dictum of command responsibility. Otherwise, Senyor Simyon will be the mastermind in the Atimonan massacre – since Senyor Simyon is the head of the armed forces.

In addition, Martial law is the price that oppositiors to it had to pay for progress. If only these NPA- communists, oligacrhs and well entrenched politicians before martial law cooperated. The only misgivings is that these politicians and oligarchs paid and supported some of the youth to join the outside movement.sparing themselves of getting killed. It is the hunger for power that made these people like Ninoy lead in that kind of movement.

Those that rose up against the martial law are not all leftists. The leftists are radicals and they are more vocal; Marcos hated them.

The people during those days were never disciplined they were just cowed by the strong arm measures of a dictatorship. No educational programs were implemented to instill lasting sense of self-discipline so when the regime was toppled, the people simply returned to their old lifestyles.

Corruption was very much present and permeated through all ranks of the military; this continued up to today that the country has not fully recovered the stolen loot of the Marcos family.

Where is the FOR and UNITY?
PNoy, I know you will not sign this bill. I know you can do better. You are in the midst of uniting the people and leading them out of ‘sickness’. But should this bill be signed into law, it would only mean that you have giving your people the wrong medicine. This is not the solution to a problem, for this is the problem to the effective solution.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JW3SV7ZIGLJCJMECO2IUN7GCCU smiley

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billy gunner

marcos is still the best president. we were respected then. now, with a stupid leader, others think we’re all stupid.

kabaliktaran

true that. Marcos was brilliant and disciplined.

boypalaban

brilliant oo…
disciplined…oo dinisiplina niya mga tuta niya…

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_JW3SV7ZIGLJCJMECO2IUN7GCCU smiley

true that. the effect is billion dollars in his foreign accounts.

boypalaban

“You Firipinos are rucky pipor…You have a president who robs you…and you have a first rady who robs you more”

Yup he’s dead for 26 yrs already, but he stole this country from us for 20 long illegal years considering that the original constitution does not allow a President to overstay for more than 4 yrs, or 2 4 year terms. 20 years is a long time, para babuyin ang Pilipinas at hanggang ngayon tayo ang epekto nito

The bill is okay but as long as they teach them PROPERLY.
I realized that the Marcos’ sins may be a good example for the kids to learn about good, just, and non-violating governance. The kids soon will know about Marcos, making them not to want to be like him, making them not to follow any kind of false leadership, and making their minds set for proper, good, and transparent governance.
If this bill is the key to the success of the Philippines’ next generation, then why not? As long as this bill is done PROPERLY, I say, the future for the Aquino-Marcos conflict is going to get better in a positive way.

The bill is about teaching about Marcos’ sins. But should this bill teach the youth that the Aquinos are the saviors and saints of this land, I believe this bill will not be of any good effect. For christ sake, it’s the people themselves that overpowered the Marcos’s, not the Aquinos. It’s the Philippines that helped themselves, not the Aquinos. So please do it PROPERLY if it should be passed into law.

managaha

What and how we teach our children of today will determine the kind of next generation we will have. Let us not teach them hatred but patience, forgiveness and love. Let’s show to the world that we are the only Christian country in Asia (as many claim) not only in word but also in deed. We are not only to render justice but also to eliminate injustice. We need to discipline ourselves and not destroy each other.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

It is because of our patience, forgiveness, love and, perhaps, cowardice that the country remained a foreign colony for 300 years and under an infamous dictatorship for another two decades.

We were not taught how to hate.

Ganymede

We need to teach them the importance of justice and rule of law. Kung puro patience and forgiveness, aabushuhin lang tayo ng iba. Pinoys are one of the most tolerant people on earth. Obvious naman di ba, look at the kind of politicians we have? Corrupt, power hungry, political dynasty, etc. The people are so patient with these politicians and even forgive them of their wrong doings. Marcos’ martial law atrocities? But, hey, the Marcos family are back in power – the people have forgiven them perhaps? PGMA corruption, but where is she now, though she is being prosecuted, for most pinoys it’s ok if PGMA would be detained at a hospital instead of jail, reason.. kawawa naman may sakit yun tao – which is more or less tantamount to forgiveness. Kaya tayo naaabuso ng mga yan masyado na tayong mapagpasensiya at maawain.

Just like during HITLER’s time and the NAZI’s times it took awhile before their atrocities were recognized knowing madami pa ding followers ang Nazis nuon. Same ngayon madami pa ding Marcos loyalists. But better late than never. I like this bill, it’s bout time the new generation learns about this to avoid a repeat in the future

If you’re insinuating that I’m a diehard Coryista ? Im sorry to disappoint you I’m not. Madami ding kapalpakan in terms of governance si Cory, though I’m thankful that she restored freedom, otherwise you can’t even say anything against a sitting president just like what we can do now unlike nung panahon ni Marcos na isang batikos mo lang kay Marcos hindi ka na sisikatan ng Araw.

QUEZON :
he basically tackled the huge problem of landless peasants in the countryside who still worked as tenants on large estates, promoted iyong settlement at development ng Mindanao,(Wala pang MNLF nun nagimula eto nung Marcos time) and fought graft and corruption in the government. Iyong security ng Pinas at that time was properly addressed with the assistance of Gen. Douglas Mcarthur as adviser

If you need more? Research for old Manila photos and you’ll discover how decent Filipinos were during that time, pnanamit pa lang lahat halos naka long sleeves na. How clean the Philippines was. Walang squatters halos. Quezon and MAgsaysay were presidents for 9 years and 3 years respectively. Si Marcos 20 years. 20 years niyang binaboy at ninakaw mula sa atin ang Pinas kaya tayo ang resulta

Binondo Central Bank was never set up by Marcos. In fact, Marcos was trying to arrest the members of the Binondo Central Bank because the businessmen no longer used the government central bank to transact their business.

The reason IMF became strict because it discovered that the Central Bank governor was cooking the books and most of the loans were siphoned into private pockets in the form of behest loans and questionable projects.

I commend you brader for being that way that time inspite of the fact that your President was corrupt

bored

Bright idea! for good measure we should also include in this curriculum the dozen or so forgotten mendiola massacre victims under cory’s regime, assassination attempts against progressives like nemesio prudente as well as the countless priests, farmers and workers slaughtered inside the hallowed gates of hacienda luisita..if this is really for human rights then the genius who authored this bill should look at the bigger picture. demonizing the marcos dictatorship is just too much of a worn out cliche. Amateur excuse to get attention and goodwill from the oligarchs now ruling this country of very smart politicians and even smarter citizens like the bitter old hippies below ;)

http://profile.yahoo.com/ZLR76JEWFTBW54T2JIOPPASXA4 The Franchise

Yup Mendiola Massacre..It’s about time people know that this was planned and instigated by the Communists.

Valid observation as well boypalaban, we’re not discounting that angle either.

http://profile.yahoo.com/ZLR76JEWFTBW54T2JIOPPASXA4 The Franchise

If you’re not familiar on how the communists work, they set up a rally, provoke the police who are exercising max tolerance, police will lose their cool, police will be thrown stones by rallyists Boom. You get police brutality. You must remember that the communists has a habit or infiltrating different groups whether student groups, women’s groups, labor groups etc etc.

In the case of the Mendiola Massacre, try to do extensive research and you’ll find out that the first shot was fired from behind the rallyists and not really coming from the police or soldiers at that time. NPA recruitment was at an all time low during this time, (after their recruitment peaked during the MArcos rule) and the communists needed something that could jumpstart disenchantment against a popular President and Government at that time.

Handler ? Ganun ba ang labanan dito? I’m sorry but I’m just a wide researcher and a wide reader. Since I understand that you may not be a wide reader considering that you missed that? Google search mo na lang “Philippines Nation of 40 million cowards & 1 son of a B&^%! ” para di ka mahirapan

ricelander

Teach them kids about the atrocities of Marcos? Go ahead. Just be sure you have a complete story that stands on solid, unshakeable grounds. Just be sure, your principles are consistent.

The youth have a restless, probing mind. If there is anything they detest, it is to be spoonfed. it is to be told, this is what you should believe in, not that. This is good, that is bad. Don’t do this, don’t do that. In fact, if you missed it, the more you hammer down your own view of things on them, the more they turn contrarian, doubting, inquiring. Is it not youth to be rebellious against the popular and the mainstream? Is it not youth to challenge the wisdom of every father’s generation?

Go ahead and good luck.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

If your kid ask you: “Who is Marcos — what is martial law and human rights victims…?” What will be your answer to your kid based on solid and unbreakable grounds?

If you do not have “solid and unbreakable grounds” to base on, what will you tell him? Is it going to be:

1. Go ask your teacher;
2. Go to the library and do some research on history;
3. Go to the internet and read somebody’s blog;
4. ……..
5. ……..

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

If some one will ask me – He (Marcos) is the greatest president of the Philippines Republic… Martial Law? – My life during martial law was better. We have more peace except for some pocket rebellion in the south and communist who wants to take power….destroying peace of the land. So anong say mo? LOL…

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

I’d say that you write what you just said into the Philippine history.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

History will prove itself. And it is nigh… LOL….oral tradition is better, di masusunog LOL…

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3TWVIBNBHJIBKXLUC5IT2JYM5E Harry

Only dictators and tyrants set fire to the books, they don’t like what is written inside.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_L7PILUDK6IPFGJLJNCM2IROCRY Albin

Yes. Peace and Order under Marcos? They killed each other peacully and orderly.

Your life was better during martial law? Did you live in another country?
What was better? How old are you now? If you have been a kid den of course you life was better, because kids cannot compare to another possible life. They lack the ability to and the just do not know there could be a different life.
I was already in my twenties when martial law was declared. There was nothing better, everything got worse. And throughout the country one could hear what people were thinking about the dictatorship. But the memory is fading now. Older people are dying, some are wandering into a time of fantasies. So it´s the right thing to teach this in school.

parefrank

And usually the now discuss it in the web. So, if it turns negative, there is now a Cyber Law, hahaha.

Why not teach our law n lng so that they know what to follow and be guided.

Ibongpipit

It amazed me how this bill will sail along in the Senate where the son of Marcos sits, as well as in the house where the wife of same culprit lingers around. Will they be comfortable, repentant or amused why this bill is being considered? What about those collaborators who labored so hard to make that evil regime succeed in wiping out human rights of so many Filipinos? Have they washed their hands or still enjoy the luxury of evasion and pretension. Truth still awaits them to be free or vanquished.

okabato

With this bill if signed into law, it says goodbye to presidential ambition of Ferdinand R. Marcos Jr aspiration to become like his father.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

for almost 30 years of demonizing the Marcos name, what happens? NOTHING!!! BBM 2016!!!!

Yes na Yes ako dito….hope it materializes….also serves as a warning to would be perpetrators…

wakats

The marcos sins were not committed by marcos alone but with the assistance of his berdugos, military advisers, justice consultants, etc who must also be included in a textbook to be taught to high schoolers.

tra6Gpeche

A great sevice by the lawmakers and President Aquino to most Filipinos, especially to the youth and those who suffered from the monstrousness of Marcos Martial Law!

http://profile.yahoo.com/AND7MQ5FERICDOIAUW56RYT45A tower_of_power

Hindi ba masmalala ang mga pumalit kay Marcos? Yung mga ninakaw ni Marcos ninakaw nila … yung mga dating kumakalaban sa corruption … mga numero UNA sa corruption ngayon!!! HUMAN RIGHTS? Tingnan nalang ang mga nangyari in the years after Marcos!!! I am not for Marcos … I am for the betterment of the country … let us be honest and look at where the problem is! Let us not destroy the economy and blame it on the sitting government … as what has happened before and is still happening!!!

kabaliktaran

well said

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_BL2GYU35SO6HTJUEAUTXS3QFYM George Lapulapu

Better late than never. My only regret, Marcos should have have suffered the fate of Ceacesco and Qadafy… but i think Filipinos are very forgiving…

Never again!!!

And Enrile?

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ICSSIYVAOFOV47APYEYWY47ZVM Martin

Well, Enrile was the architect of Martial Law. Made loads of money during his years being the Custom Commissioner & Defence Secretary of Marcos.

Not considering that his son (Jack Enrile) who happens to be a Congressman now, had a few people killed during the years of Martial Law and up to the recent pass.

Like what Lee Kuan Yu of Singapore said in his recent book, The Filipino people are to forgiving , considering that Marcos and his Family and Associates squandered the Philippine Treasury, the country still allowed them to come back and take power.

http://profile.yahoo.com/ZLR76JEWFTBW54T2JIOPPASXA4 The Franchise

The Marcoses should be thankful that this country still takes to heart their Christian religion, otherwise…they could’ve suffered the same fate as other Dictators of different countries

Seems you did not read well. This stupid law has already passed and just waits the signature of the Marcos enemy Noynoy, matching the election campaign to hit the Marcoses like Bongbong.
The real question is, if the “sins” of all other presidents and heroes will also be taught. Everyone, from Quezon to Noy has his or her sins. Teaching such selective history is a super nonsense.
During the “democratic” regimes after Marcos, there are more extrajudicial killings and disappearances than during Martial Law. And there were no such mass killings.too. But I remember the Manila bombings, hotels, even hospitl, in the 80ies, said to scare tourists and influw of foreigh money and so crippling the Marcos economy. And it have been USpoliticians who blamed Ninoy to be behind, requesting to stop attacks against an US ally or be deported. True about Ninoy or not, but the bombings stopped up to Marcos’ ouster. Still, there was never a law to teach children the “sins” of other people. Up to now, such selective history was only blamed to Nazi and Communist regimes.
What a pity, it is probably also a try to propagate the Ninoy biography which also selected and erased anything which could look negative. How would be a Marcos biography written by a close friend of him? Will the Ninoy bioraphy also become a school subject like Rizal?

Why the sins of Marcos only? Also the sins of ENRILE !!!!! The Hacienda Luisita Massacre, other people who was assasinated by the Administrations of FVR, PGMA and the rest!
JUST TO BE FAIR WITH EVERYBODY !!!!!!!!!

i am certain, some bloggers in this thread knows who were the masterminds of the killing of Ninoy.
to conceal their identify, they just pin the fault to the hapless lowly soldiers who are rotting in jail
in Psychology it is called projection.

Magsasaka

the lowly soldier had nothing to do with it, the gunner is or could be was related to tabako, tabako is the mastermind.

http://profile.yahoo.com/ZLR76JEWFTBW54T2JIOPPASXA4 The Franchise

Tabako was not in any significant position during that time. Tabako was even alienated from the CAbinet with Gen Ver as the more favored General by the APO.

Magsasaka

have you gone tru with all the fact finding result?
try again that is for you to understand.

Ninoy once said that if ever there was one good general at the time of Martial Law, Tabako was it. Tabako would never have betrayed Marcos at EDSA kung siya ang tinalaga as AFP Chief. Ano ba naman ang educational background ni Ver compared kay Tabako na galing pa sa West point ? Yet Vice Chief of staff lang siya at that time. General Ver’s credentials ? Forget about it. Malaki ang tampo ni Tabako kay Macoy considering na they were cousins, yet he was never appointed as AFP chief. Si Ver, loyalty ang puhunan kay Macoy. Marcos trusted this girl so much compared to Tabako.

Magsasaka

tabako being a tactician and with wide network of intel knew that he has limited career opportunity with macoy, macoy didn’t want a thinker and tactician as his AFP chief.
tabako then made all the planning to take down ninoy and blame it to macoy, macoy would never wanted anyone to become a hero in the eye of the masses.
all the key personnel involved in the aquino assassination were all under tabako’s unit.

this is the most ídíotic law i have ever heard of, instead of improving and strengthening english, math, science and industrial arts skills of students to make them more competitive in the job market, they will teach children useless things that wouldn’t even matter to them much less care for.

as for the compensation to be given to those ‘alleged victims’, why would they want to get paid when it’s all their fault as they had brought all their troubles upon themselves for listening to a shrewd blabbermouth senator from tarlac and instead of depleting meager government resources that can be used for vital services by asking to be paid for their foolishness, they should rather line up and file their claims to the aquino clan.

Oh and btw I don’t smoke. And my wife is Ilocana, Unfortunately though she”s not a Marcos fan just like you guys.

Ronald_18

Even my wife, their family is from Tarlac. Apparently, they were also not a HUGE fan of the Aquino’s who was tagged as a Japanese collaborator during WW ll and made abuses with their farmers.

Btw, how many laws did Ninoy made when he was a Senator? I know that Cory’s accomplishment was burning us 8 hours daily brownout, freed the Communist leaders so that they can freely terrorize the nation and even Metro Manila, Corruption ranging from her Kamaganak are rampant, freedom of expression, but with an iron hand and lastly vindictive to the Marcoses.

Now, if we really love our country, we should be open with reconciliation. Court had decided in favor to the Marcos victims, now if they proposed their fates should be a curriculum, it will not help. Educators should focus on English, Math and other Technological subjects, as we are far behind with our competitors rather than teach the effects of Martial Law. It will just open the gates between Marcos v. Radicals and so called left leaning people…there will be no closure.

Yeah, the most idiotic law ever been created. It’s because we have a
bunch of “idiots” in the congress. OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES PUPIL ARE
TAUGHT TO CREATE ROBOTS and yet our pupils to educate from the sins of
Marcos? Wohooooh!

Abolish Pork Barrel! and let these dishonorable compensate on minimum wage. That is the true public service.

-When Marcos was elected as president of the Phil, the nation was next to Japan in Asia economically, but the nation almost declared bankruptcy before Marcos was forced out of Malacanang.
-The nation owed half a billion dollars when Marcos took over, and owed 28 billion dollars by the time he was booted out.
-The average growth rate or the GDP of the Philippines of Apo Marcos from the time he was elected until booted out was 1.8% per year.

Don’t be so vague like Apo Marcos in your statements. People are now empowered with the power of information technology to refute any revisionists of history of Marcos era.

Jezzrel and simplengyaman, no wonder you both idolized Marcos. Marcos loyalists borders on sarcasm or it shows their aversion to know or hear or read about facts or they are simply and plainly technically challenged. They miss the news blackout during the martial law years.

Jezzrel, I hope you understood my statement about information technology.

Why don’t the Marcos loyalists know how to have a good rationale about their point of view? It is because the Marcos lies have been fully exposed even when he was in power and these loyalists are afraid to accept all of Marcos’ crimes . That is why in any discussion, Marcos loyalists sound like spoilsports or “pikon”.

simplengmamayan

Hey did I? What is fact for you? Honestly do you have the authenticated records to show? Then i’ll go with you about facts but if you base only on what you heard then that’s pure hearsay. A coin has always two sides and an evil doer who does less does not make them not evil. Just sayin.. For the record am not fanatic to anyone. As neutral citizen have my views about whats going on and beside not all being fed by press is TRUE and accurate it still the opinion of the writer. Just sayin.

meralco of the lopezes was bought by the government happened to be the administration of marcos for Php900million+. during those time meralco was servising manila area ONLY. then, comes cory administration. and according to the lopezes; marcos forcibly took over the company. and cory just simply returned meralco to the lopezes. without any buy back. of which when meralco was returned to the lopezes, meralco has expanded to novaliches; valenzuela; malinta and god knows how far it reaches in the north, while san pedro; muntinglupa; binan; sta.rosa in the south. when marcos bought meralco, the company is close to bankruptcy and it was the lopesez who initiated the sale. marcos actually take good care of the company. so, it is not kinamkam. as for the cojuangcos, it’s another story.

Yeah, the most idiotic law ever to be created. It’s because we have a bunch of “idiots” in the congress. OUR NEIGHBORING COUNTRIES PUPIL ARE TAUGHT TO CREATE ROBOTS and yet our pupils to educate from the sins of Marcos? Wohooooh!Abolish Pork Barrel! and let these dishonorable compensate on minimum wage. That is the true public service.

Cmdradobo is correct “should teach math, science, and english more. bumaba talaga iq ng pinos.” good manners is already been taught. we don’t need to teach them hatred.

magiting78

You know..I am leaving here in Europe, I compare the level of education here and in Philippines..In terms of Math and Science Philippines is advance..In Philippines the Grade 3 student already knew how to divide and multiply and they already had fraction but here they only knew simple mathematics..
.Now do you think education is the problem? I don’t think so in any part of the world Filipinos are very conpetitive. The problem in our country is lack of opportunity and government don’t give importance on R&D (Reseach and Development)…. Try to think of this..in time of Marcos there was a program of Masagana 99 that time Philippines was among the rice sufficient in asia and we are able to export rice, but now we are the importer. Why? because the previous government event the present focuses only on negative sides of Marcos regime they removed all the programs of Marcos because they think that everything was not good and full of corruption.
We have to learned our history for us to know where we are going..where we are now and agricultural country but we focus on manufacturing, electronics and so on, but we forget to develop our agriculture, the technology is there but government don’t give importance on it.
You will teach math science, and english for what? for human importation like us?…Let us look back what we are before and what we are now…

Of course I could be mistaken. Pero as I remember it, short topic lang ang Japanese Occupation sa HS. Either di ako nakinig, absent o hindi na push samin. Sanitized version pa yata, so it focuses on the effects, not the plight of the victims.

That would be comparable to the topic of the Martial law atrocities, but keeping the victims nameless or their stories without anything we could empathize with.

white scorpion

you were right. more than 200,000 filipinos were killed during japanese time by the american just to liberate about tense of thousand american lang sa u.s.t.

white scorpion

besides, marcos did not committed atrocities to the filipinos; but with the LEFTIST peoples who were still a menance up to this days.

So the nation will remember not to forget, a bill that recognizes
for the first time that the Ferdinand Marcos dictatorship committed
atrocities against Filipinos also mandates the teaching in schools of
the abuses inflicted on its opponents and the heroism of those who
fought the regime.”—–WHY? So that all of us will learn. Learn to know what is right and wrong. If we know this, we will have the right values, good values makes a nation better. It’s that simple. This is not about personalities, this is about an ISSUE an issue that the abuse of power is not to be tolerated and to step on other people’s rights is wrong, hence we should teach our youth the value of doing the right thing, to remember heroes, heroism and not to tolerate or allow abuse and suffering from a dictatorship, whoever it is.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

good/right values start from home!!!

white scorpion

if marcos committed atrocities, it’s not with the filipinos; but with the LEFTIST peoples who happened to be a menance up to these days. right and wrong; good or bad, good mannerS is already being taught in school. THE BILL WILL ONLY PROPAGATE HATRED.

Leo Capurictan

What ever they do, they could not change the fact that life during marcos time is much better than today. so it will just add insult to the people

GKLer

It was definitely better for the Marcos cronies.
They took your company/business/property if it caught their attention.

panhase

Either you did not live during that time or you are paid for propaganda or you are just ignorant.
If it is ignorance then it highlights only the need for teaching.

Ronald_18

We lived and survived during Marcos years. I saw you a plain stupid saying people who agreeing their lives are better during Marcos time got a pay check. People like you seems to know anything, Marcos was booted out of the country in 1986. Can you elaborate the poverty line between then and now? Are we better off today?

Freedom of expression maybe, but there’s a pending Cybercrime Law being tackled in the Supreme Court. Can the middle class workers cope up with the daily needs of their family? Every worst thing happened in the Philippines was blamed to Marcos and yet no one consistently criticized the Hacienda Luisita scandals, Mendiola Massacre, regular 8 hours brownouts everyday and the rapid growth of NPA during Cory’s time…in fact they were able to have a strong base in Metro Manila to conduct terror. People blamed that to Marcos, because it happened during his time.

How about the cases of NPA? Do we need to forget their extortion to the business men, corporation and summary executions of their comrades and military? You use Marcos as an scapegoat because all his predecessors did not uplift the lives of the Filipinos, as what Cory and her supporters are promised all throughout the campaign period. Up to now, candidates are using “food”, “peace” and “anti-corruption” slogans, but again did our former leaders had something to eradicate those I mentioned?

Now, that PNOY is our President, I believe in his objectives, again his matuwid na daan is being questioned. His friends and close to the inner circle of his cabinet can get away against the law. Funny is he also used GMA as a scapegoat…like mother, like son.

Someone should also take the side of the accused torturer of these victims to air their case. There should be a reason, why they were arrested in the first place? Are they belong to a subersive group or had a tied up with the Communist? Communism is against the law not only in the Philippines, but to some US allied country as well. People that are radicals and no disciplined are the one making noise about Marcos and Martial Law. Look at the environment now? Are we safe to roam the streets even in broad daylight?

warpiglets

well said!!!

Stephen Scott

Very well said and congratulations for all your research about the Marcoses and Cory’s time. I dont know if you are close to the Marcoses, a loyalist or related some how to them. We understand your side but i just hope you have to give respect and understand those many who lives or died during the marcoses regime. Because it is just now that we taste all the freedom to live the life with no fear of being killed, kidnap, torture and rape. Atleast we can say we are also enjoying the freedom we know we will never enjoy under a dictator regime.And this freedom is the reason why most filipinos pay so much respect to Cory.Marcos may have done most during his 20 yrs of holding the country, But i just hope he did not oppressed and violated the basic rights of his people. AND WE ALWAYS VOTE USING PENCIL ONLY DURING HIS TIME WITH NO QUESTION OR ELSE YOU WILL BE ARRESTED AND GET LOST FOREVER. THAT WAS OUR LIFE DURING THOSE DARK DAYS.

Ronald_18

Now, it shows you are the ignorant! You have no right to question to those you don’t like. Since you left the country in 1979, it shows your ignorance right after Marcos left Malacanang.

panhase

I do not have the right to question? Who says?
Is it martial law again? And you are the one to determine who has a right to question and who does not have that right?
That is the way you understand democracy?

Ronald_18

I agree!

Gilmore Santiago

give it a few more years and more people will forget this just like EDSA I, II, III+
since most of those that lived in the 70’s will then be dead and the marcoses are back in power, it will only be a matter of time before another Marcos comes back to malacanang.

Mabuhay ka Imelda!

PhoenixPoliticalParty

Let those who suffered from martial law be compensated out of the ten billion peso fund. Let the government agency/ commission created by law, disburse the money justly and promptly. Let the list of recipients be published for public record.

It is high time.

rodben

Kinawawa na ang mga Marcoses by their opponent in politics but still Marcos is the CHAMPION TO THE MASSES where ever you go around Pinas except communist party of Pinas thats why Marcoses are still easily to win in Philippine politics.

panhase

Are you from Ilocos or are you paid?

Ronald_18

Maybe you are the one got paid. It seems your familiar with bribe.

panhase

I am not paid, I am not even living in the Philippines anymore. Luckily I was able to leave the country in 1979. Then I discovered how it is to live in a free and safe environment.

Ronald_18

And you have no right to express your comments since you were out of the country from 1979 up to now. You have no idea and experience how the Filipinos went through from the 80’s up to present.

Lucky for you are living out free, while we are worried with our safety even in broad daylight.

panhase

Wow, I have no right “to express my comments” ?
Is it martial law again?
And I have no experience? How old are you?
Every year I am staying 6 weeks for vacation in the Philippines so you really think I have no idea? Who are you to judge?

Some times I till story to my grandsons about the life of Pinoy’s during Marcos, during that time even one week we left our harvest palay outside our house no one can attempt to rob and in public schools no need to brings extra money snacks are free for the kids, my grandson says the Philippines before are rich unlike today you can’t trust the people.

panhase

Did you live in another country? Or are you just a storyteller? I was already in my twenties when martial law was declared but what you are saying does not match the reality during that time. It was just that crimes were not reported in the news because there was no independent media.

ApoNiLolo

And when the time comes, I’ll also tell my grandchildren that Pedro Penduko was one of our heroes who fought and killed a lot of Spaniards and Maria Makiling was a beautiful maiden who almost won the Binibining Pilipinas contest. >: D

i hope the textbooks also mention the people who got buried, and died, building the Experimental Cinema of the Philippines near the CCP, just so that” Madame” Imelda could hastily hold her “international” film festival…

http://profile.yahoo.com/J6ZIP2ZW3T6ZFRJCRBAJNXLIFY Sabian

I do hope the textbooks will also mention the farmers who died in Mendiola during the term of “madame” Cory. Also the forgotten farmers who died fighting for their rights to own land in Hacienda Luisita during the Aquino administration. Not that I am pro Marcos, I just want equal exposure of all administrations. If they are going to write everything in books, they should not miss all the other presidents. Write all the good and the bad and let the children decide who really made an impact on their lives now.

white scorpion

i can’t believe our d-u-m-b congress will passed such a divisive bill. i wonderS the media people did not talk much of it. first time i heard it, it’s waiting for the president’s signature na. judging from the nuisance the leftist is doing at this time. i’m glad there are still 9,539 (and more) leftist’ left. besides, wala na si marcos. binagsak ng so called liberatorS. ARE WE ANY BETTER? perhaps we’d just LOST our best chance for development during marcos time. although p-noy is making progress. are we certain it can be maintain after him. look at our current candidates. why is it with the reputation of land grabber; carnap protector; drug protector; corrupt in his earlier position running in the senate. HOW COME a father is the leading official of a party, while his child is running in the opposite party. WHAT DOES ALL THESE SIGNIFIES. your guess is as good as mine.

Justice will not be served for this is the Philippines and we all know it so let’s just try to remember the victims and the damage it has done to this country that festers to this day. The institutionalized corruption and apathy that is so normal, it is a way of life.
When you have Juan Ponce Enrile going to his grave believing he had nothing to do with it and many more trying to re-write history, it is going to be really hard.
This nation suffers from amnesia, and only looks forward to the next Christmas.
Cannot even invoke God to help us all for it seems he is not listening as this nation prays, nothing ever changes.

observer1356

it’s sad but painfully true …

ApoNiLolo

It’s about time! Innocent, guilty, mere suspicion, or just by association, many died, disappeared and incarcerated in that dark era of our history.Drilled into the next generation how 20 years of martial law begot nothing but summary execution, economic hardship, graft and corruption and systematic looting of our treasury. Teach them why absolute power creates unchecked abuses by the power-that-be, their families and their cronies. Name names to shame them and their families!

Educate the young of our past so it will not happen again in the future!

warpiglets

PURE HEARSAY!!! dont pretend ur all knowing..

ApoNiLolo

… said the naive and the ignorant! >: D

kulittwit

Stupid comment. This bill deliberated by congress since 1996 will become a law after signing by the president. It was passed by the lower house despite the presence of imelda. it passed the senate despite bongbong there.

u.s. – kastila war 1898
pilipino – u.s. war 1899-1912 1+ million pilipinos died
u.s. – japan war ww2 nasira pilipinas, 1 million pilipinos died
u.s. – korea war 1950-1953 100+ pilipino casualties
u.s. – vietnam war 1960s-70s used philippines as staging area, pilipino casualties
u.s. – tsina war 20?? modern weapons will result in higher casualties

I wonder if the teaching in the schools will omit or include the roles of various individuals who are still active in politics…

boybakal

Leaders are the reflections of its citizens…Kung Ano ang Puno siyang Bunga.
Marcos the President was a brilliant, intelligent,lawyer, bar topnotcher.no1 not 3 or 9.
So we sent the best of our very best of our OFWs, engineers, doctors, nurses and other professionals.
Even our legislators were topnotch lawyers to be in the Senate and Congress.

Sangha Vicente “The Task Force Detainees of the Philippines, at the time the country’s leading human-rights group, recorded more than 1.2 million victims of dislocations due to military operations, 135 cases of massacres, 1,064 victims of summary executions, and 20,523 victims of illegal arrest and detention. all during CORY’s time.” Who will compensate them and why are they not being treated the same way? Ano ba itong kalokohan na ginagawa ng mga lawmakers natin na kurap naman lahat. Why dont they speak out against those abuses?? We were most dangerous country not at war to live in for a journalist not during martial law but after 1986! They are all hypocrites! Pag sinabi ni PNoy sa mga congressmen, “pirmahan nyo ang impeachment charges” na hindi nyo babasahin muna, pirma naman silang lahat. Nakakahiya na kayong lahat!

It’s funny how some people here cannot point any concrete thing Cory did good for us. Not the edsa freedom transition period bullshit but a concrete example of what Cory did in terms of projects, infrastructure, economic programs that clearly alleviated the lives of the Filipino people. Ang ibabato lang eh “Miss mo na si Marcos” or “Maka Marcos ka kasi”. No I’m not. Looking back, Cory ran for presidency without the decency of having a good platform but to only topple Marcos in mind. She was a housewife who was encouraged by Ninoy’s peers and party mates to go against Marcos. They called themselves freedom fighters but truly they were the ones who took advantage of the absence of real direction. They were the ones who abused the Filipino people by duping the masses telling them “we are here to give you freedom from this tyrant” but truly what they want was power and control.

When we say the good things Marcos did, these yellow bums will just throw you corruption, tyranny, etc. Yes, he was all of those, sadly he died before facing his atrocities. But why cannot we credit him for the good things he did for us. Many of us are still benefiting the works of Marcos. We cannot deny that. Airport, highways, Railways, gov’t facilities, etc. (some were not maintained out of hatred and revenge).

Another thing, what is really the point of singling Marcos out and just emphasizing the crimes he did? This is typical brainwashing. I just hope they write everything. Good or Bad. Not Just Marcos but everybody. Let the students decide who really made the most out of their presidency.

Cory’s government is what they call “transitory”. And history, any history, will tells us that transitory governments are always chaotic. The objective in that period was to oust Marcos through legal means. So the opposition has to field in a presidential candidate, any candidate. It happens Cory was the best they could do. Not because she’s a “good leader” but because of her relation to Ninoy.

It’s unfair to blame her if her administration was topsy-turvy. She served her purpose – and that’s to rally the people against the dictator!

LAD

korek

http://imjinah.blogspot.com/ imjinah

Can we consider her in some way as a ceremonial figure in a larger sense?

ApoNiLolo

I respect the lady for what she did. Reluctant she was at first, yet she step up to the chalenge, because it’s for the greater good. Her administration was what we may call “pasang awa” but she did her best with her limited ability. Yes, call it ceremonial, but honor her, we must!

will this include the atrocities committed by the cojuangco’s (Hacienda Luisita), Enrile,Ramos, Aquino, and dont forget the NPA, MNLF…they all committed crime against humanity. from1972-1986 inclusive.

“The memorial commission will also establish, restore, and preserve a memorial, museum, library and compendium in honor of the victims as outlined in the policy statement of the bill, called The Human Rights Victims Reparation and Recognition Act of 2013. ”

how about those killed for JoMa ? There is always two sides of a coin. I read somewhere that Joma is a multimillionaire and the last person to know this fact is Joma himself. LOL

akimaxx

Documenting the lives of Martial Law victims are very doable now, with digital technology, interviewing those victims, relating their experiences can be recorded and preserved before most of them die. They are senior citizens by now. Martial Law was a bad lesson for us Filipinos. Let us not forget our past. With the huge loot, Marcoses can still influence our youth and change history. Sen. Johnny Enrile is doing that right now (read his books). Our future generations must learn and not repeat our bad political experiences.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4I4CDOKHJPMTBH2KFE3LFI6QDI marcial

YES. YES. And never to martial law again!.

Ronald_18

People wanted to include Martial Law in curriculum are either genius or plain stupid. Should the government prioritize that other than more important subject that will make our youth competitive with other Asian countries?

Yellow fanatics blamed Marcos for everything, I think many of the Filipinos especially the youth back then siding against Marcos and his government was the “IN” thing. The way I saw it was a FAD more so, bandwagoner. Having that mentality anything the government did was wrong and up to now, they are hallucinating that Marcos should be blamed for everything…even for the kitchen sink. Where are they now? They are locked in arms with ex Marcos boys. How can they stomach working with ex Marcos officials, whom they also denounced during demonstrations in the street Mendiola and Ayala?

Question do we have to include the rising threat from the Communist during the 70’s that lead from the implementation of Martial Law? Can majority of the people accept the truth that Joma Sison and his CPP masterminded the bombing of Plaza Miranda? Sen. Salonga who was one of the victims found out through his committee that Marcos was right it was a handywork of the NPA. The Liberals especially Sen. Ninoy accused Marcos for plotting the bombing.

We had 5 Presidents after 1986 and people are still cursing the Marcoses. Do the past presidents did something good for the country? Are they vindictive with the Marcoses, though promoting reconciliation? Why these victims were arrested? Did they belong to a group identified with the communist? Are they subersive and inciting rebellion which is prohibited under Martial Law? Sadly, we only interviewed those who were arrested while media people shy away from their arresting officers from Cory’s time to present. We should hear both sides of the coin, otherwise these plan will be biased against the Marcoses.

http://profile.yahoo.com/UZF4OTGY4BREFE42RXP7FZJKFY Ding

Ronald, you said, “we should hear both sides of the coin, otherwise these plan will be biased against the Marcoses”.

Umpisahan natin sa iyo. Your very first sentence said, “People wanted to include Martial Law in curriculum are EITHER genius or plain stupid”. In your elaboration, you did not mention annyting genius, but only plain stupidity, DON’T YOU THINK THAT IS ONLY ONE SIDE OF THE COIN? DON’T YOU THINK YOUR ELABORATION WAS BIASED OF YOUR VERY OWN STATEMENT? Not unless you elaborate, as well, on the curriculum being genius. Perhaps, it was a simple slip of the mind, and you are still thinking of another time to elaborate on its being a genius move or, at least, necessary. Let me give you some pointers:

—Martial Law period is part of our nation’s history. The now and coming generations have the right to know of our past, be inspired by those good, and learn lessons from mistakes;
—There were almost 10,000 victims for whom the claim was filed in Hawaii…wasn’t it, partly or wholy aimed, for non-biased decision-making? And, also, how many years did it take them to meticulously evaluate all angles before they arrrived at their conclusion.
—The money to be used for compensation was from Switzerland for 10,000 victims. It is a very huge amount. Who was its original owner? Wasn’t it Marcos?
—If it was Marcos, how could he have earned such gigantic amount of money?
For 20 years in power, that meant 500 million savings yearly? Are these all that the government has been working to recover from what was said to be ill-gotten wealth?
—If it wasn’t from Marcos, then from whom. Why would Switzerland turnover such big amount of money?

I hope your answers to these questions may give you some hints to elaborate in your own statement that additing this subject to school curricula is genius.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_D3LDMMAKC6UDQLDVFP2DGSJBXY Jezzrel

The money to be used for compensation was from Switzerland for 10,000 victims. It is a very huge amount. Who was its original owner? Wasn’t it Marcos?—If it was Marcos, how could he have earned such gigantic amount of money?For 20 years in power, that meant 500 million savings yearly? Are these all that the government has been working to recover from what was said to be ill-gotten wealth?
—If it wasn’t from Marcos, then from whom. Why would Switzerland turnover such big amount of money?

Don’t give me pointers as I lived during Martial Law years and I know our lives (at least from my end) are far better than today. In my opinion, it will be off to lecture students the ill effects of Martial Law without hearing and validating the statements given from the other fence. Those claimed you had mentioned are already been settled and what your trying to prove here Filipinos should be vindictive with the Marcoses.

The issue here is to include the plight of these victims during the 70’s in the curriculum. Now, if you will still recycle those cases, it means people like you still cannot move on from the Marcos era. There are books informing the students the ill effect of Martial Law, if you think that wasn’t enough…then let’s open the pandora box, why communism became threat during Marcos time that leads to declaration of Martial Law. The proclamation has the blessing or maybe influenced by USA (as a freedom fighter and guardian of democracy).

That’s why I mentioned the abuses of these communist leaders using the situation to create terror and blamed it all to the Marcoses. Do people like you care to think the sentiments of Filipinos abused by the NPA, like revolutionary taxes, sabotage of business, summary execution and also the innocent people they killed or involved in the crossfire? What make it worst is people like you are silent on the issues involving Pres. Cory.

There are other subjects our students need besides Martial Law. Every year it commemorates the anniversary of People Power 1 that kicked the Marcoses out of Malacanang; birth and death anniversary of Cory (that also have some backlash on the Marcos presidency) and Martial Law declaration specials that almost all media feasted. Now, if Filipino thinks that wasn’t enough, then we are still living and caged from the Marcos years. TIME TO MOVE ON.

I think the cruelty of Japan during WW ll must have a long mileage with the curriculum. Compared with Marcos victims, Filipinos suffered worst during the war and we should stop asking for their aid or assistance. It will also be fit to curse the Japanese people up to now for their sins and aggression to the Filipinos.

… in the light of
PEOPLE POWER I … The Marcoses must or should have [with the sense of delicadeza] stayed away from
politics. Instead they run for elective
posts mostly in their region… and voted with a kind of regional pride….they
won. They continue to pretend to save their face….to deny… but what they have
done which has wounded deeply the
Filipino spirit and with all those who suffered and those whose lives were
lost, disrespected, profaned, … will haunt them until their last breath… Try to
see and notice the faces of the
Marcoses… their eyes, facial expressions…these reveal the pain inside of them,
the denials, the pretence, the lies, the deceptions… and we know what disrespect, what sacrilegious , what blasphemous things they
have done.. …

ApoNiLolo

I saw that “looked” in Imee’s face when they attended the wake of Cory Aquino. It’s a telling sign, somewhere between “apprehension” and “guilt”. Pero si Bongbong, all I saw was a “poker face”, betraying no emotion at all.

childofreasons

The filipinos who voted for any of the Marcoses and any of their cronies should have the decency or the “delicadeza” to not put any of them in power due to the atrocities they’ve done towards the filipinos for 14 years.

u.s. – kastila war 1898
pilipino – u.s. war 1899-1912 1+ million pilipinos died
u.s. – japan war ww2 nasira pilipinas, 1 million pilipinos died
u.s. – korea war 1950-1953 100+ pilipino casualties
u.s. – vietnam war 1960s-70s used philippines as staging area, pilipino casualties

Think also of the filipinos who are illegaly in the USA, what’s the POTUS doing about them? Pres. Obama is trying to make them legal! Won’t be happy for your fellow filipinos there? and isn’t America being kind and not imperialistic?

good for pilipinos
who have more than paid for
their entrance fee to north america

google imperialism

rodben

Madam Carmencita are using again as propaganda by these Communist Peso of the Philippines just to get there huge money, what happen to you madam most of your leader are now in the gov’t enjoying their big pork barrel and living in an exclusive subdivisions but you are still living in squatter? I hope the court will allowed to release these money to build a school building and hospitals for the poor Pinoys because the gov’t today are sold already those hospitals build by Marcos gov’t to the poor.

bagombong

Puwede ba, matagal ng tapos ang martial law, at that time..we need martial law to take away those people who are not in favor of a democratic country, this peoples are trouble maker at that time…I was in that years also but nothing happened to us.. I loved those years when bad peoples are on hide, martial law time is more peaceful that time what we have right now, all type of crimes are all around us…so stop pretending that you are victim of martial law…you did something wrong at that time that is why most all you are jailed or tortured.

Stop saying that we are a forgiving nation. The truth is many of us do not know how to use our reasons to come up with the best solution and come up with very good leaders. For some their judgments are clouded with emotions and hearsays that oftentimes they believe are true. Many of us love to win and thus join in the euphoria showered to winners like what happened in EDSA.

Here in this case, this quote from THE Prince by Machiavelli can render us with fair judgment.
It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye. No one can really tell what happened during the martial law if we don’t approach it with a clean heart.. No self serving motivations.