Thanks again Jon. In the '80's a friend used to work very close to the Penske compound in Reading. He was the consumate race fan and got to know the mechanics. They had a way to warn him when Roger was in town { flag upside down or something} so he wouldn't show up to hang out at lunch. He told me every square inch of the shop was spotless. A young mechanic had gotten married and was expecting a child. He went to Roger and ask if he could stop traveling with the teams so much and stay at the shop as he wanted to settle down. Roger fired him on the spot.