not much i can crit at the moment but maybe look at the forearms more closely.

looking forward to another update :)

NANONEEN

02 February 2002, 07:01 PM

I like your character's proportion
he looks like a good PA hero
waiting impatiently for the head

stipen

02 February 2002, 10:06 PM

I'm still working on the hands....But for now here is a better render !!!!

http://mapage.noos.fr/stipen/CHALLENGEwip_PA/wipPAchallenge02FG.jpg

pabbloz

02 February 2002, 02:19 AM

uau!! It's very cool!!!
how will the head be?

Only a critic:
I think the jacket don't must have muscles.

CerberusC

02 February 2002, 05:09 AM

i like it so much, specially the legs :)
i want to see moooooooooore :)"""

Bug_Eyed_Earl

02 February 2002, 12:10 PM

I dig the style. The proprotions are cool. One little thing though: The fatty lower stomach seems a little out of place. Perhaps fatten up his hips aswell.??

just a thought :)

stipen

02 February 2002, 10:46 PM

Update for the day!!

Don't pay too much attention to the head...this is just a start to help me with the proportions...
I've add the hands and very small details...

P.S : pabbloz and Bug_Eyed_Earl ,
I've followed your advices....thx

http://mapage.noos.fr/stipen/CHALLENGEwip_PA/wipPAchallenge03.jpg

Totitch

02 February 2002, 02:33 AM

hey but he seems to have some "Brioche!"(big stomac with gelatine in french)...

Maybe just like is creator...Arfffffff!:D

Seriously...Very good and clean and fast work...
Make a sketch pleeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase! ;)

Just to know what it will look like...and to give you some lateness !!! hinhin...
:D

Fout lui plein de matos autour de lui...
Charge la mule mon gars!

And don't forget...Let the loukoum dance!

hobbes

02 February 2002, 06:19 AM

ouaaahha i like it so much.like his look.I can't wait to see it finish.
And like totitch say it would be great to see a sketch.
oh oui un joli chti crobard:D
nothing to say just keep your time

stipen

02 February 2002, 05:05 PM

Hi All

here is my last Udate!!
Crits and comments are welcome !!
THX

http://mapage.noos.fr/stipen/CHALLENGEwip_PA/wipPAchallenge06.jpg

NANONEEN

02 February 2002, 05:08 PM

nice work stipen
the modelisation looks very clean!!

Jhonus

02 February 2002, 05:16 PM

Oh dear, thats very good.

I dig the Helmet and goggle design, very original.

jsut one small inconsequential thing that bugs me... he can't close his shirt, so it either shrunk in the wash or he has a bad tailor

pabbloz

02 February 2002, 05:26 PM

cool!

what is going to be the next step?

stipen

02 February 2002, 05:58 PM

Lol krugar !!
Actually the jacket is not supposed to be closed!!!
Even when the belt of the jacket is closed ....it's not entirely closed!!
He lives in a very hot desert environnement!!!

TwoFlower

02 February 2002, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by stipen
Lol krugar !!
Actually the jacket is not supposed to be closed!!!
Even when the belt of the jacket is closed ....it's not entirely closed!!
He lives in a very hot desert environnement!!!

ok, you don't wanna say that he has a bad tailor.. :)

big b

02 February 2002, 08:33 PM

Cool.

He kinda reminds me of Mad Max's sidekick in the ROAD WARRIOR.

ALSo, I just have to say it.

YOU KICK SERIOUS BUTTOCKS.

stipen

02 February 2002, 09:26 PM

Thx Big_B
You reminds me that I should re-watch "mad max"....
I'd like to start to add some accessories but I'm a little out of idea!!
if anyone has some suggestion that could fit my character, feel free to answer me...
Actually I see him like a messanger

regards

stipen

02 February 2002, 05:12 AM

just a pre-color version!

Pabbloz: I'm now goin' to focuse on the boots , his face and then modeling of accessories!!!

http://mapage.noos.fr/stipen/CHALLENGEwip_PA/wipPAchallenge07.jpg

Jhonus

02 February 2002, 06:13 AM

if he is a messenger then he must not have too much luggage, so that he is light on foot.

hehe..
seriously ..
he really look nice ..
wait to see him with textur and a nice rendering... :-)

pabbloz

02 February 2002, 03:16 PM

heeey!! I have an idea!!!
why doesn't he use skaters?!!!
I don't know the name in english.. maybe boots with wheels, or skids or roollers.... hockey-wheels... :confused: :D :D
If he is a messanger could be a good idea! he will be very fast!

or He can uses a helicopter like the Insperctor Gadget hehe.

Good Luck!

stipen

02 February 2002, 03:31 PM

Thx pabbloz for the idea but actually I see him in a desertic environment ...Not STREET !!!
I'll try to send an Update in a few day!!

stipen

02 February 2002, 09:38 PM

Very very little Update!!
I've work a bit on the face and the boots

thx to :

krugar
timothyD
mickatt
xtrm3d (you're right!!!lol)
pabbloz

For the comments!!!

http://mapage.noos.fr/stipen/CHALLENGEwip_PA/wipPAchallenge08.jpg

pabbloz

02 February 2002, 09:57 PM

yes!! cool new details!! excelen arms and hands!!
great job! Have you already think what weapon or vehicule is going to wear?
maybe a gun with a belt like in the wild west (cowboys...).
you know,... contrast between the future apocalyptic with early weapons. :)
He could wear a star like a sheriff too!! :D

Again... fantastic arms!

stipen

02 February 2002, 10:10 PM

Hey Pabbloz..!!I like your idea of colt...Excellent!! thanks a lot

eirenicon

02 February 2002, 10:25 PM

If he's going to have a vehicle, make it a beat up old metal horse contraption... something perhaps steam-powered that bears resemblance to a horse? Looking great!

JacobB

02 February 2002, 12:29 AM

I don't know if you are planning on making a vehicle for this guy, but he looks like he was born to fly, you should also give him the good ole' mad max sawed off shot gun too, bu that is only my personal opinion, excellent work!:)

Totitch

02 February 2002, 12:39 AM

Yeah Stipouch!!!

His face is really nice...it will be "top" with a "BARBICHE"! :D
He has got more personnality now!
And what a clean work!!!

tu kif ta race la hein???C'est autre chose que Gena! Arf Arf ! ;)

Piz

02 February 2002, 01:38 AM

Stipen!!!!! Very nice PA Guy....!! :D

Ciao
Piz

;)

stipen

02 February 2002, 09:37 PM

New boots , New belt and FG rendering (thx coolcalb )

http://mapage.noos.fr/stipen/CHALLENGEwip_PA/wipPAchallenge12.jpg

crits and comments Always welcome

pabbloz

02 February 2002, 12:32 AM

EXCELENT!!!

this is one of my prefer characters!!!!!

Really really cool Stipen.

Bug_Eyed_Earl

02 February 2002, 10:33 AM

I dig the Oakleys :).

stipen

02 February 2002, 03:09 PM

thanks Pabbloz...As you can see , you really inspired me with your Western ideas!!!You'll see in the next updates!!

Bug_eyed you're definetely right!! This was not on purpose but you're right!

P.S...uau! Always I see it....I think....uau! :)
awesome model!
rate: 5,I love this style over all

dot

02 February 2002, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by pabbloz
heeey!! I have an idea!!!
why doesn't he use skaters?!!!
I don't know the name in english.. maybe boots with wheels, or skids or roollers.... hockey-wheels... :confused: :D :D
If he is a messanger could be a good idea! he will be very fast!

I think this could be cool too... but not street rollers... more for the mountains... like a tank... just small

FURI-KURI

02 February 2002, 10:36 PM

very cool design! STIPEN

Done in XSI 2?

what about a mechanical Camel for the desert?

Totitch

02 February 2002, 05:23 AM

Yeah stipen!!! Nice stuff!

Great boots
Is there wheels under his boots to walk on S....
If you understand what i mean!!! ;)

thanks pabbloz....Really appreciate.Yours is excellent too !!
Dot : I do see what you mean and it sounds like a great idea but it's a matter of time...I' ll see !!
thx Furi and you're right : XSI 2....as for the mech camel....I'll see with totitch my personal designer!!! lol (need more time, could be really funny too )

Hey tota the barbiche is comin' soon...promis!!

Totitch

02 February 2002, 05:48 AM

No problem for the mech camel!!!

See you tomorrow!

on fera ça pendant les heures de taf! :D
Bonne nuit Stipouch!

stipen

02 February 2002, 03:06 PM

I can't believe i've spent 2 hours modeling the gun....but it sucks so bad that I'm gonna let it hidden in its holster !!

Totishto I want a MechCamel design !!

http://mapage.noos.fr/stipen/CHALLENGEwip_PA/wipPAchallenge14.jpg

NANONEEN

02 February 2002, 03:18 PM

we want to see the gun stipen!!!!
what will he do if he is attacked by a desert PA gang ??!!!!
is he a good kung fu fighter??

Totitch

02 February 2002, 03:21 PM

The Gun!! The Gun!! The Gun!! The Gun!! The Gun!!
The Gun!! The Gun!! The Gun!! The Gun!! The Gun!!
The Gun!! The Gun!! The Gun!! The Gun!! The Gun!!
The Gun!! The Gun!! The Gun!! The Gun!! The Gun!!

A big zoom on it!!!

Assume Stipouch!

epatnor

02 February 2002, 03:25 PM

But this looks like a guy with connections... I don´t think anybody is gonna touch him! He does'nt need large weapons - except for protection against desert mutants and weird animals! But as for gangs roaming the desert... everybody knows who he is, and they would'nt want to face his friends... :)

Good good work Stipen! One of my favos so far!

pFodere

02 February 2002, 03:55 PM

hello Stipen !

i like your Comics look (BD)

i thing the same of Totich, one vehicle as U.L.M or helicopter of Mad Max II, + a Sheriff Star and you have an maravillous scene !!

one of my favorite model !

allonz'enfants..... :cool:

fellah

02 February 2002, 07:48 PM

great guy, love it, especially the lower 50% of his body. the only thing that dosen't look right to me is the bellybutton area, I made a quick retouch of your pic to show you what I mean, might just be me, just an idea...

pabbloz

02 February 2002, 07:58 PM

hahahahahahaha!!!

Why have you hiden the gun? :D

okok...maybe you need a good references:
Colt (http://www.gunnery.net/glossary/images/colt.jpg)

you are a serial killer Pabbloz !!!!
such violence in only one mail !!!!

stipen

02 February 2002, 08:03 PM

waou pabbloz....What is this site ....so much gun in there!!!
Are you part of the mafia or somethin' like that???
Sorry but i didn't anderstand what a CAPTUS is????
gracias for the comments anyway!!!

Totitch

02 February 2002, 08:05 PM

Be carefull NANONEEN !!!
Juging by the link he sent, Pabbloz is probably an Espanian-Mafia godfather ! :D

pabbloz

02 February 2002, 08:30 PM

haha!! You recognized me!!!! :D :D
Be carefull with me babies... There are people under the floor for things less importants... :D :D

Stipen!! where do you live?
summer captus (http://www.cubatravelcorp.com/images/mexcancun/captus.jpg)

:p

pascal_blanche

02 February 2002, 09:30 PM

great style! 5 stars! :D :D :D

BASSit

02 February 2002, 09:52 PM

Oh, i really don´t know what character should win - i thought i knew the winner, but as more works i see as less i am sure about it ;)

Can´t wait to see some more - maybe a more futuristic gun.

BTW: Ey Pabbloz - i need some gun . . . the "FN-P90" ! You have any good references ?!?

Pancreas

02 February 2002, 10:44 PM

A man must never been ashamed of his gun, so draw!
The face is great, a fresh cartoonish look. Just a comment, i think there´s a contradiction: he uses googles but he lefts his belly bare? Has he never heard about the risks of the post-nuclear summer sun? :cool:

pabbloz

02 February 2002, 11:09 PM

Bassit, of course!! :D

page 1 (http://www.dentrinity.com/ClarenceLai/p90.html)

image (http://www.gunnery.net/images/fn-p90-2.jpg)

stipen

02 February 2002, 12:31 AM

Just add two straps on the leg to hold the holster!! that's all for the moment...Hey i'm not the "five minute update man"
Pabbloz : My thread is not a "weapon catalog" lol!!! By the way I swear i'll put a captus for the final scene_ cause you demande It!!

PANCREAS:his skin is actually adapted for the environment...A kind of mutation...the googles protect him from sand storm _WAOUH!! ...what a great explanation!!!_

FEllah:I knw this is not anatomically correct but I like the style this way...Nevertheless have've change it "a bit" in your Way...

Thx to the others for the comments, especially from SIR
Pascal Blanché:this is great honnor from the last challenge winner

Wiro

02 February 2002, 06:50 PM

Heya Stipen, I really like the way you've cartooned your character :)
I don't have much of crits here, it's some very nice and characterized modelling. What I'd pick on is his belly area (as already pointed out by someone else) because it doesn't look like his belly continues into his pants but is kind of cut off. You may have fixed that in the last pic but it's hard to see from that angle.
Also the creases on the pants don't seem to flow where they should along the groin and they seem too thin around the gun straps. I totally love the rest of him though!

Wiro

OZ

02 February 2002, 12:21 AM

Very impressive for someone that is not the "five minute update man!!!!" your character is near to be perfect! Great cartoon style!!
But i feel something strange about the straps on the leg holding the gun.......too much tightened maybe...... (is only an impression!)

KOryH

02 February 2002, 01:22 AM

Heeeeeyyyyy Cooooolll.
I realy like it! The character is just great and the props carry it too!

stipen

03 March 2002, 03:48 AM

Here's my last Update!!
I'm on holydays tomorrow so the WIP ends here for me....
Hope you like It!
Thanks to everybody for the kind comments and for sharing with me so much knowledge...

http://mapage.noos.fr/stipen/CHALLENGEwip_PA/wipPAchal_STIPEN.jpg

regards.

BASSit

03 March 2002, 03:59 AM

Great posing !! Also the character is a masterpiece, but i think you know that already ;) I thought i know the winner, but since i have crawled through the forum i am not sure anymore... Thank god - i am not in the jury :D I couldn´t decide who is first and who´s not !

Hope to see you in the next challenge too !

Totitch

03 March 2002, 04:01 AM

Yeah Stipouch!

What great poses!Very cool!
But where is the "Captus"? :D :D ...and he doesn'l show is weapon!Why??? :D :D
Your render i very nice but there is little red and green points on the first picture !!! Nevermind...

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