I am reminded of the glorious scene in THX-1138, when Robert Duval, pursued by liberal droid police, climbs out of the oppressive, subterranean Big Brother city, and finally opens the hatch to the surface world, and sees the sun for the first time.

Thank you for a beautifully written piece. I, too, am reminded of a similar scene in the movie The Truman Show.

I'm sorry to say, but the jew propaganda machine has so successfully vilified both Nazis and Hitler that we do a disservice to WNim by aligning ourselves to those terms or imagery. They have become a liability, and to move forward we have no choice but to discard our liabilities.

We lack a cohesive front, an organzation or structure dedicated to moving our values forward in an orderly fashion. We desperately need a WN Office of Propaganda to devise techniques to counter the jewish multcultural propaganda that is spewed forth daily.

One thing that has worked for me is to simply ask people "Do you think, overall, we are better off now than we were 50 years ago?" followed by "Do you think we, as a society, have become more refined or more coarse over the last 50 years?" Generally the answers are No, we are not better off, and we have become more coarse and less refined. Then I ask, "Is it logical to determine that if we have not only made no progress, and instead have lost ground, does it make sense that the people who have been running thing for the last 50 years either don't know what the hell they're doing. or they DO know what they're doing and do NOT have our best interests in mind? And if either is true, maybe we would be better off geting rid of them."

I don't take them to the pont of naming the jew, if they are smart they will figure that out on their own. If they are not-so-smart they will consider withdrawing support from both political parties, thinking they are the ones running things. Others will realize government in tandem with NGOs and non-profit foundations are the real social engineers, and a quick glance at the list of officers and steering committe members will reveal a "disproportional jewish infuence". But the main thing is to make them realize we are being degraded under this left-leaning social program to the point of extincton.

For me, the biggest challenge has been the issue of extremism within the movement.

I've met many people who, for one reason or another, dislike non-whites. Many of these people even accept the "Jewish conspiracy" with a little convincing. However, what they won't accept is the potentially negative impact that a WN society would have on their lives.

Perhaps I run with a bit more of a liberal crowd than most here, but there is a conservative element in the WN movement that shouts over everyone else. I do not believe that racialism necessarily has to be tied to a political outlook. It is a biological issue - it is our will to survive. I find it to be unnecessary to pin a moral code to our cause.

Some of the issues which immediately turned off many of the people I've talked to are the majority WN stances on things such as religion (many here would favor a theocracy), abortion (most people I know are pro-choice), pornography (I'd wager about 80% of young men look at porn from time to time), environmentalism (many people here tend to associate environmentalism with the enemy), economic theory (most of the people I've met do not wholeheartedly agree with capitalism), homosexuality (most people I've discussed race issues with generally don't care where one wishes to place their penis), the role of women in society (sorry, most women are not willing to just be baby machines anymore) violence (people here advocating violence and death against anyone and everyone for any reason) and how day to day life would be conducted (most DO NOT want to return to the 50's).

Overall, I've had a greater time combating the hardcore conservative image of the WN movement than I have in convincing them of the Jewish problem. Many young whites will agree that they want to change the demographic situation. However, many are not willing to become a part of a movement that endorses such a restrictive moral agenda. I am included in this. I don't want someone butting into my private life telling me what I can do with my body, who I can screw, or what I can watch. I wish the best for my race, but at the same time I question the value of it when the people here come across like inquisitors or cavemen.

He started out, as many teachers do, an idealistic liberal intent on making change, and ended up a conservative.
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These days he spends a lot of time enjoying his gun collection.

I'm sorry, it is so tempting to make a joke here. Mr. Chips Sez, "Do Ya Feel Lucky, Punks!?" would make a great screenplay.

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And I said, "Well, maybe. Or maybe we'll just pack up the car and drive out to Idaho or somewhere." And he said, "Oh no, you don't want to go to Idaho. I'd rather just stay here than go to Idaho. Idaho is full of all kinds of militant cults and crazy Nazis."

The problem is that his definition of the meaning and nature of Nazis is not the same as ours. If we believed the mainstream line about what Nazis are, we'd dislike 'em too.

I say get him a book or DVD or something. Maybe My Awakening is too much for such starters. How about A Line in the Sand DVD?

You shouldn't feel bad for not saying what you wanted. We all live in a world that vilify the Nazis start to finish as conscienceless murderers. I grew up in a small midwest town full of WWI and WWII vets who fought the Germans. Some would admit that if not for the war, they didn't feel they were that different from the men they fought. Others, some to this day, still actively hate the Germans. Pretty much in all cases, they considered that they fought to keep Germany from conquering the world. Evan as a kid, I felt the whole "good versus evil" thing seemed a little too much like a comic book. I refused to see all Germans as the monsters they were portrayed as, and it did get me in trouble a few times for voicing my opinion.

Unfortunately, as I've learned over the years, propaganda is the single most effective weapon anyone can use, and Germany, Hitler and NSDAP have permanently lost any possibility of having their respect restored, regardless of truth. Those of us who do respect are by far the minority. Even though some people see eye to eye with us on the subjects you wrote about, they still don't want to be remotely associated with "Nazis". I'm certain that it even troubles many to feel their own thoughts parallel those of a group they consider so evil.

In my opinion, this is the root of the problem of getting more support for saving our own people. This bred-in guilt is the obstacle we all need to overcome for someone we know. Some people have been so conditioned that they'll never accept any viewpoint other than herd-speak. Others are able to hear the evidence and decide for themselves. I'm seeing an increasing trend of older people who grew up before and during WWII rebelling against the way the world is turning. They still don't like the Nazi comparison, but they've seen what's become of the world they had in their youth.

Yes, I'd be cautious of offending family members, but family will be more understanding if they accept, or more forgiving if they don't agree. If you break the ice with your uncle, consider trying to get him to visit Stormfront to read for himself to see that not all of us are dangerous kooks. He may not care to become a member, but he should be able to see there are other people who think like you two do.

Stop right there, not only as the true ideals, values, way of leaving of the
National Socialist Germany has be brought to light and documented over and over again but just think at the damage the revisionist movement can and will make to jew propaganda, jew perception and jew credibility, jew powers. Just think for a minute at haw raging the masses will be when they find out the lies induced by the jew media, and such many will not handle it but many will embrace it(the revelation) and we will have our most wanted and needed revolution. And please, please ! stop hijacking WN movment only for American values.
No i am sorry, but is our own fault that the masses do not know the information, it is our own fault that we didn't give support to the revisionists so they can get a fair trial, we do not what change we like depravity and easy life/no responsibility.

As usual, this is an astute observation. Still, these things won't happen overnight for a lot of people. You need to offer some suggestions - point out that American "neo-nazi" groups vote for people like Chuck Baldwin, hardly a "nazi."

My father engages in that habit frequently. He'll go on a tangent about negro criminality or intelligence, and then he'll remind us that Oh BTW he loves Alan Keyes and hates the Nazis.

Rather than defend the Nazis, I simply go right along with him. I have nothing to gain by saying that I side with Nazis, because I don't - I side with white folks.

Stop right there, not only as the true ideals, values, way of leaving of the
National Socialist Germany has be brought to light and documented over and over again but just think at the damage the revisionist movement can and will make to jew propaganda, jew perception and jew credibility, jew powers. Just think for a minute at haw raging the masses will be when they find out the lies induced by the jew media, and such many will not handle it but many will embrace it(the revelation) and we will have our most wanted and needed revolution. And please, please ! stop hijacking WN movment only for American values.
No i am sorry, but is our own fault that the masses do not know the information, it is our own fault that we didn't give support to the revisionists so they can get a fair trial, we do not what change we like depravity and easy life/no responsibility.

I'd like to see the restoration of respect for them. Don't you see that the damage of saturated propaganda on people who just don't understand or want to understand is virtually absolute? Some will see it, but most don't care enough to look any deeper. How many people can even tell you when WWII was fought? It's an uphill battle to get people to understand our situation TODAY, much less getting them to see some evil German who murdered six million Jews, was actually not what everything they've ever heard about him, was true. Our situation is today and tomorrow, not seventy years ago. We'll never have a clean slate, so it makes sense to minimize the obstacles.

Rockwell made good points - his swastika wearing was a facade for good old american racial thought.

Do not try to wizel yourself out of this, if i need to spell it out for you, then il make and example of it, do not force me. So sud i nominate you as a hypocrite, or would you like to revive you attitude.
May you will give me other credible examples of men in the late history ho are an imbodiment of all your ideals, as i understand no ?

The "Holocaust" is always the insurmountable problem when conversing with a liberal. The jew world Order is founded upon the religion of holocaustianity.

Non-WN White folks would rather die than be "Holocaust deniers." Yet, the holocaust must be denied if our race is to survive.

The unawakened White is convinced that he really does "Believe in the Holocaust," but, when you probe, you will find that he doesn't even know what "The Holocaust" actually is.

I have talked with many educated Whites who say they are believers,and that "Deniers" are the lowest form of animal life on the planet. When I ask them if the really believe that the most technologically advanced nation in Europe, the inventors and sole possessors of binary nerve agents at the time, chose as the agent of destruction of a million and a half jews a substance that had never in the history of the world killed a single human being----diesel exhaust---they think that I am lying. Unless you carry a copy of Hilberg's book, or some other kosher source that states the claim, they won't believe you.

So complete has been the propaganda victory of the enemy of truth, that they are, as I type, trying a 90 year old man for the crime of herding jews into chambers where they were killed by diesel exhaust.

In the long run, the most valuable thread ever on Stormfront will prove to be Yehuda Abraham's "Tales of the Holocaust."