Bouncy frontal armour, gun with almost 3k DPM and 60+ camo value, seriously? RHM WT has slighty worse camo and look at their hull dimensions FFS. I buy premium tanks sometimes but never the OP ones, WG can stick them on the dark side of the Moon, including this new mockery.

Bouncy frontal armour, gun with almost 3k DPM and 60+ camo value, seriously? RHM WT has slighty worse camo and look at their hull dimensions FFS. I buy premium tanks sometimes but never the OP ones, WG can stick them on the dark side of the Moon, including this new mockery.

1. 200 armor is bouncy on t8?

2. It has 2690 dpm not 3000

3. 60+ camo value? With camo net, full camo crew and camo paint. The thing is it has no turret so camo net is useless an real camo is 40+

Nope they are not accurace since you claim it only has slightly more camo than RHM. 60% camo with nothing but a 75% crew doesn't exist in the game. Udes gets 67% camo fully kitted with a camo net. My 13 105 with camo paint an 2 crewmemebers on 100% camo gets 34% camo. So nope this thing doesn't have 60 camo. Are you really trying to compete for the worst post of the year with each and every one of your posts?

3. 60+ camo value? With camo net, full camo crew and camo paint. The thing is it has no turret so camo net is useless an real camo is 40+

You need to stop shitposting.

Also RHM has better guns and a turret.

With food, vents rammer and BIA. It can get 3400 DPM. And with camo skill, net and paint. Camo value is 64. And 12 when firing. And that's actually much for a tier 8. As you can easily check with the in game comparison tool. And Borsig has 50 more alpha, less pen and DPM. More or less the same caliber in terms of overmatching. Same dispersion, and a bit better aim time. So it's not better tbh.

To I suspect not many I've seen have any of that. As all I've seen so far have died the second they are spotted. But once people get their crew skills up. I suspect they will start to get nasty.

Tho this tank was made primarily by the Chinese company with the help of WG for the Chinese server. That likes OP broken tanks. WG could still have put some effort into nerfing it for the other servers.

With food, vents rammer and BIA. It can get 3400 DPM. And with camo skill, net and paint. Camo value is 64. And 12 when firing. And that's actually much for a tier 8. As you can easily check with the in game comparison tool. And Borsig has 50 more alpha, less pen and DPM. More or less the same caliber in terms of overmatching. Same dispersion, and a bit better aim time. So it's not better tbh.

To I suspect not many I've seen have any of that. As all I've seen so far have died the second they are spotted. But once people get their crew skills up. I suspect they will start to get nasty.

Tho this tank was made primarily by the Chinese company with the help of WG for the Chinese server. That likes OP broken tanks. WG could still have put some effort into nerfing it for the other servers.

Rhm has this thing called a turret so it can actually use the camo net. Without turret or siege mode you are gimping yourself if you use a camonet

Well to be fair to it the gun does troll sometimes, but when it doesn't just keep your head down and it doesn't embarrass itself in a tier X battle even with a new crew. HEAT goes through a Jagdtiger upper front plate like a knife through butter, a Tortoise is pen anywhere you choose, and tier VIII and lower the AP seems to take enormous hit points from the enemy. It is fragile though despite the front armour, the lower plate is trash. Superb traverse though, you can almost out turn a LT. It's the trolling of the gun that I hope is reduced when I get snap shot on the gunner, you are about to save the game and that perfectly aimed shell just fly's off into the distance.

Guys...this TD its clearly OP. Dont come here to say it isnt. Go to look the reviews too on youtube of pro-players. When in top tier its a "monkey-proof" tank...high pen,high alfa,good frontal armor,very good mobility,very good camo. Another OP tank to squeeze money to the people. WG is destroying the Tier 8 gameplay introducing these OP tanks and the new 3-5-7 MM with the aim to force the people to buy always more premium tanks,premium time to remain "competitive" and farm silver to spam gold ammos. That's all. IMHO.

True. But when your camo is better with the camo net off them just about any tier 8 TD with it on. Then it's not gonna make much of a difference.

Again that is not true. First of all RHM and Udes can use the camonet and get 33% more camo if they do.

Second Skorp can too and it will get more camo if it uses a camonet.

Su101 is not much worse camowise so all you are left is the ISU (not bad camo but amazing alpha so it can brawl better), Ferdi, JpZ, t28 (not bad camo) and t28prot which has a turret so again can use a camonet (even if thats stupid).

Also who the hell cares about camo in 2017? The only tank that can really utilize camosniping is the udes.

Guys...this TD its clearly OP. Dont come here to say it isnt. Go to look the reviews too on youtube of pro-players. When in top tier its a "monkey-proof" tank...high pen,high alfa,good frontal armor,very good mobility,very good camo. Another OP tank to squeeze money to the people. WG is destroying the Tier 8 gameplay introducing these OP tanks and the new 3-5-7 MM with the aim to force the people to buy always more premium tanks,premium time to remain "competitive" and farm silver to spam gold ammos. That's all. IMHO.

Taudlitz, on 30 August 2017 - 10:21 PM, said:

its pretty close to effective frontal armour of T28 and it can move. Also with better dpm, better alpha, accuracy, view range,... It loses pretty much only on HP pool and gun handling.

t28 has pockets of 300 next to 220. This doesnt. t28 is also crap. I'm not saying this isn't op. I'm just saying people use shitty arguments. I will judge if I play it. It's less problematic than a Skorp because no turret and less than heavies because meh armor. It's still a turretless TD in corridor meta

Probly spent 100e in this game in past two years - atleast then I could say with an honest face that it did not give me an edge other than more credits and faster progression.

When they introduced their new business model I cant even suggest anyone playing or trying this game and im seriosly regretting having hooked few of my older friends who are now part fo the problem. Defenders, gold spam, dont even bother to helkp your team cause " its not a team game" and you know whtat. They are 100% right.

It is pay to enjoy, im quite certain half of the wallet warriors would not even notice if WG made this an single player game with bots.