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Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

Batum playing up to his new contract with 33 pts, 7 rbds, 4 asts, 2 stls, 1 blk

But forgot to block out that may very well cost them the game. Batum and PG24 are so similar defensive studs who can shoot. That was a huge mistake can't forget to blockout he had inside position just block out and the board was his. Really soft play by Batum there.

Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

I'm watching a Denver/GS replay from last night, and I am intrigued by this GS team. But David Lee gets away with traveling violations...a lot. He seems to take an extra step on every drive to the basket. Maybe it's just this game, but jeez.

Andris Biedrins looks out of place. His haircut makes him look like he belongs in a black and white sitcom lol

Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

I'm watching a Denver/GS replay from last night, and I am intrigued by this GS team. But David Lee gets away with traveling violations...a lot. He seems to take an extra step on every drive to the basket. Maybe it's just this game, but jeez.

Golden State intrigues me as well. Too bad Andrew Bogut is a lemon and can't stay healthy. I wasn't a big Monta fan and think Bogut is a superior player when healthy, but he has proven time and again that he can't stay healthy. That's a great "what if" team.

Lee does get away with travels a lot--you know who else does? Roy Hibbert. What's sad is that Roy still gets called for quite a few. He shuffles his feet a ton in the post.

Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

Not having Amare is a bad thing for this team how? He takes away shots from Melo, he is a terrible defender and not very good as a rebounder. If I were the Knicks I would dump Amare for just about anything if I could.

Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

Not having Amare is a bad thing for this team how? He takes away shots from Melo, he is a terrible defender and not very good as a rebounder. If I were the Knicks I would dump Amare for just about anything if I could.

The Knicks issues were that they didn't have a point guard that could help with the flow of the game, Felton is doing that, Amare is still a force to be reckon with and nope I don't think he is a bad rebounder either, 8.8rpg for his career is not bad.

By the way I know a power forward that is a worse defender and rebounder than Amare but he is somehow a god around here, if makes no sense, well I guess it does...

Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

The Knicks issues were that they didn't have a point guard that could help with the flow of the game, Felton is doing that, Amare is still a force to reckon with and nope I don't think he is a bad rebounder either, 8.8rpg for his career is not bad.

By the way I know a power forward that is a worse defender and rebounder than Amare but he is somehow a god around here, if makes no sense, well I guess it does...

It's amazing to me that you think Amare is a good rebounder and West is not, when their per minute career rebounds are nearly identical. This is not to say that West is a good rebounder either (notice you made the comparison first, not me), but it is to say that if you find Amare to be at least a decent rebounder, then so is West.

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Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

IMO, the Knicks having both Amare and Melo is about the same as the Pacers hypothetically signing Rudy Gay to play alongside Danny Granger. Yes, you can point out that Gay uses his athleticism to get by guys while Danny uses the threat of his jump shot to give him some space to work with. But they fill the same exact role and without a creative game plan would just get in each other's way.

Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

IMO, the Knicks having both Amare and Melo is about the same as the Pacers hypothetically signing Rudy Gay to play alongside Danny Granger. Yes, you can point out that Gay uses his athleticism to get by guys while Danny uses the threat of his jump shot to give him some space to work with. But they fill the same exact role and without a creative game plan would just get in each other's way.

The more Paul George evolves the more he looks to me like Rudy Gay, I don't agree with what you are saying.

Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

The more Paul George evolves the more he looks to me like Rudy Gay, I don't agree with what you are saying.

Then why isn't PG scoring ~20ppg? Even on a horrendous shooting year thus far, Gay is still getting his points. PG still depends on others to create opportunites for him to score a lot. He isn't the one creating the situations where guys have to choose who to leave uncovered. He's getting more aggressive, but he's still a complementary scorer.

Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

Then why isn't PG scoring ~20ppg? Even on a horrendous shooting year, Gay is still getting his points. PG still depends on others to create opportunites for him to score a lot. He isn't the one creating the situations where guys have to choose who to leave uncovered. He's getting more aggressive, but he's still a complementary scorer.

He doesn't need to score 20ppg to be effective, it's the Pacers front office fault that they decided not to sign an scoring machine, I rather have Paul George scoring 14/15/16ppg, and getting 9rpg while playing shut down defense than jacking up shots and playing D went he feels like it ala Danny Granger, why the same people that are down on Paul George's start this year were not down on Danny all last year?

Call me crazy but PG's start this year is better than Danny's start at the same time last year and not many here were saying s***.

Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

He doesn't need to score 20ppg to be effective, it's the Pacers front office fault that they decided not to sign an scoring machine, I rather have Paul George scoring 14/15/16ppg, and getting 9rpg while playing shut down defense than jacking up shots and playing D went he feels like it ala Danny Granger, why the same people that are down on Paul George's start this year were not down on Danny all last year?

Call me crazy but PG's start this year is better than Danny's start at the same time last year and not many here were saying s***.

It's the same thing I've been saying on here for the past year, all the people that put crazy expectations on Paul were going to be disappointed. Fact is on the list of reasons the Pacers are under .500 right now, Paul's name probably wouldn't even appear.

Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

He doesn't need to score 20ppg to be effective, it's the Pacers front office fault that they decided not to sign an scoring machine, I rather have Paul George scoring 14/15/16ppg, and getting 9rpg while playing shut down defense than jacking up shots and playing D went he feels like it ala Danny Granger, why the same people that are down on Paul George's start this year were not down on Danny all last year?

Call me crazy but PG's start this year is better than Danny's start at the same time last year and not many here were saying s***.

Reread my post without the assumption that I'm upset at his production. I'm not down on PG at all. I'm not upset he's not scoring at such a high rate because I never expected him to. He's not that kind of player. Which is why he fits with Danny Granger and Rudy Gay wouldn't.

But beside the point, that's just an analogy that I was using to explain why I thought Amare and Carmelo have problems fitting together. They like the same spots on the floor, and they like the same role on the team.

Re: 2012-13 NBA Random Thoughts Thread IX: Ode to Joy

Then why isn't PG scoring ~20ppg? Even on a horrendous shooting year thus far, Gay is still getting his points. PG still depends on others to create opportunites for him to score a lot. He isn't the one creating the situations where guys have to choose who to leave uncovered. He's getting more aggressive, but he's still a complementary scorer.

If PG could get to the line 4 times a game (so shooting 8 FTS), then he probably could avg 20.