Feb. 12
01:30 pm JST

Feb. 12
02:00 pm JST

But Trump appeared oblivious to the deal, saying that he'd been informed by aides that negotiators had made some progress but that he had declined to be fully briefed so he could go on stage.

"I had a choice. I could've stayed out there and listened, or I could have come out to the people of El Paso, and Texas, I chose you," Trump said.

Of course he did. He could either run the risk of being made to look clueless in a room filled with much smarter people running verbal rings around him while discussing topics he could hardly focus on for more than a minute or get his ego boosted by a crowd of idiots cheering and whooping as he comes out with all the same rambling BS that he always does. A no-brainer, I'd have thought.

Feb. 12
02:32 pm JST

President Donald Trump charged ahead Monday with his pledge to build a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border, skimming over the details of lawmakers' tentative deal that would give him far less than he's been demanding and declaring he's "setting the stage" to deliver on his signature campaign promise.

"That's right Ann and Rush - I kept my promise - just look at that beautiful wall of 1 foot high traffic cones - it's impenetrable..."

Standing in a packed stadium under a giant American flag and banners saying "FINISH THE WALL," Trump insisted that large portions of the project are already under construction and vowed to fulfill his 2016 campaign promise regardless of what happens in Congress. "Walls work," Trump said. "Walls save lives."

"Walls are also great for keeping people in - I have walls around Mar-A Lago and all my golf course so I can keep the illegal immigrants I employ inside - they work cheaper that way..."

More than a half-hour in his rally, Trump had scarcely mentioned immigration, offering just a passing suggestion that those chanting "Build the Wall" switch to "Finish the Wall." Instead, he mocked O'Rourke, insisting the Texan has "very little going for himself except he's got a great first name" and mocking his crowd size, even though both men drew thousands. "That may be the end of his presidential bid," Trump quipped, adding: "You're supposed to win in order to run."

Of course, Beto doesn't have a Special Counsel and the NY District Attorney investigating him - nor have 38 of his associates been indicted or convicted... And I bet he doesn't have anyone as creepy as Manafort and Stone working for him...

You know where it made a difference is right here in El Paso," he said Monday, adding: "They're full of crap when they claim it hasn't made a big difference," Trump said.

But that's not true.

El Paso had a murder rate of less than half the national average in 2005, a year before the most recent expansion of its border fence. That's despite being just across the border from Ciudad Juarez, Mexico, a city plagued by drug violence. The FBI's Uniform Crime Report shows that El Paso's annual number of reported violent crimes dropped from nearly 5,000 in 1995 to around 2,700 in 2016. But that corresponded with similar declines in violent crime nationwide and included periods when the city's crime rates increased year over year, despite new fencing and walls.

And now we know who is the king of crap....but as dictators have said throughout millennium, instilling fear is the first step in controlling the sheep...

Trump advisers have long insisted that, fulfilled or not, the wall is a winning issue for the president, who has already sought to rewrite the "Build the Wall" chants that were a staple of his 2016 campaign to "Finish the Wall."

"Build the wall", "Finish the wall", Now put Trump and the rest of his crime mob "behind the wall(s)"...

Feb. 12
03:02 pm JST

Sometimes one has to wonder if the true intent of the wall is to keep out vs keep people in from leaving. Why not save the billions, build a DMZ like in Korea, and pretty sure illegal border crossings would come to an almost near halt. I doubt anyone would be that crazy unless they are on a suicide mission. As for tunneling, put them in deep enough as well so that if disturbed well boom.. Now for the illegal drug trafficking, well as El Chapo has proven, submarines and a fleet of high speed boats, airplanes pretty much did the trick and now with delivery drones. well what can one say..

Feb. 12
03:19 pm JST

The status quo for the past 20, 30, 40 or more years has been that the border between the US and Mexico is porous. Even for illegal crossing assistance, the cost is modest: around 1-2 grand in my guess. Changing this status quo will be very painful for some who have taken it for granted and benefited from it.

Feb. 12
03:21 pm JST

Maybe Trump can fund his wall with all the money he's taken from us in his "tax scam". Many Americans are finding out that they actually owe money, or have their refunds greatly reduced this tax season.

Feb. 12
04:40 pm JST

Trump told the crowd in the arena “there are 35,000 people here.” Fire marshal estimated a total of 6,500 according to the El Paso Times.

So important to have El Paso’s well-known former representative, local officials and residents make a vocal stand against Trump’s histrionic lying, stupidity and obsessive-compulsive narcissistic personality disorders.

Feb. 12
04:54 pm JST

Typical of socialists. Having a bus driver run Venezuela - disregarding how a prosperous country got run into a living hell.

Now thinking that an unemployed nobody who lost an election wasting $millions in outside contributions and spoke to a small group of unhinged activists is at par with a duly-elected President and successful businessman.

We'll get you a wall - all you need to do is thank us later when drug smuggling and illegal immigration are drastically curtailed.

Feb. 12
05:10 pm JST

Typical of socialists. Having a bus driver run Venezuela - disregarding how a prosperous country got run into a living hell.

I'd sooner trust a bus driver than a snobby elitist who got elected on a campaign of fear and racism. And Venezeula was turned into a hell by corportate and American interference.

Now thinking that an unemployed nobody who lost an election wasting $millions in outside contributions and spoke to a small group of unhinged activists is at par with a duly-elected President and successful businessman.

More snobbery. Trump inherited his money, was bankrupted 6 times and destroyed small businesses. That's not success, that's dodgy.

We'll get you a wall - all you need to do is thank us later when drug smuggling and illegal immigration are drastically curtailed.

Feb. 12
05:58 pm JST

No democratic president has ever lost the popular vote, they have all won the electoral college as well. Facts suck when they demonstrate you are utterly incorrect, eh.

Trump doesn't control who benefits from the jobs, so you cannot honestly hold up the employment rate of minorities as evidence that Trump isn't racist. However, we can point to his racist rental practices and say he is racist. Damn, there are them fact things again.

Feb. 12
06:51 pm JST

Word has it that Trump is considering raiding funds meant for disaster relief in California and Puerto Rico to build his precious - but not unspent funds intended for hurricane relief in Texas.

Wouldn't surprise me. As predictable as getting two downvotes, at this stage.

Disasters, which means actual people losing their lives isn't sexy enough for Trump voters, they get much more turned on by non-existent invasions or mindless tropes about Mexicans etc being criminals and rapists.

This says a lot about the mindset that allowed an actual criminal and sex pest into the White House.

Feb. 12
06:55 pm JST

Trump really made democrats look stupid when he talked about their Green Deal. Ban air travel. Really? Do the democrats know the rest of the world will still be flying? Our rich celebs too, on their private jets? Ban cars? Cows? It’s ridiculous.

Loved the way he slammed “late term abortion” too. Good rally. Beto’s rally, on the other hand was pretty lame.

Feb. 12
07:05 pm JST

Feb. 12
07:31 pm JST

Of course he did. He could either run the risk of being made to look clueless in a room filled with much smarter people running verbal rings around him while discussing topics he could hardly focus on for more than a minute or get his ego boosted by a crowd of idiots cheering and whooping as he comes out with all the same rambling BS that he always does. A no-brainer, I'd have thought.

Not quite sure about it, he looked smart, calm, cool and collected to me and as long as liberals continue on this radical tirade, it looks like he’s going to have even better days ahead, keep it up and sliding into 2020 will be easier than baking apple pie.

Feb. 12
07:49 pm JST

Feb. 12
08:01 pm JST

“The agreement would provide $1.375 billion in funding for 55 miles of new barriers along the U.S.-Mexico border that would be comprised of steel slats or bollards, not concrete, according to a congressional source. The figure is well below the $5.7 billion Trump has demanded since December.”

uh oh sounds like Dems caved. New “barriers” are funded. “But but they aren’t concrete” cry liberals. Whatever. Walls can be made out of things other than concrete.

Feb. 12
08:09 pm JST

uh oh sounds like Dems caved.

55 miles of border? What kind of wall is that? They can go over (ladders, drones, slingshots), under (shovels), or around (walking). Trump has failed. Trump better not sign this or Ann Coulter will be mad. Did you hear what Hannity said about the deal? Trump has failed. 55 miles? Are you kidding?

Feb. 12
08:11 pm JST

“The agreement would provide $1.375 billion in funding for 55 miles of new barriers along the U.S.-Mexico border that would be comprised of steel slats or bollards, not concrete, according to a congressional source. The figure is well below the $5.7 billion Trump has demanded since December.”

uh oh sounds like Dems caved. New “barriers” are funded. “But but they aren’t concrete” cry liberals. Whatever. Walls can be made out of things other than concrete.

Feb. 12
08:38 pm JST

Trump doesn't control who benefits from the jobs, so you cannot honestly hold up the employment rate of minorities as evidence that Trump isn't racist. However, we can point to his racist rental practices and say he is racist. Damn, there are them fact things again.

Semantics. Words can only bring you as far as you can fool low-information voters.

Lowest unemployment rates ever for whole segments of the electorate.

You think that those former Dems or those black and hispanic families who've been waiting 8 years for a good-paying job care about what leftists or the media say?

Feb. 12
08:41 pm JST

O’Rourke in his own town couldn’t even get over 1,200 spectators

Trump can't even get anything beyond 55 miles for a fence. 55 mile fence? You don't even need a ladder or shovel. Just walk around it. All you need are shoes. What a joke. Hannity said the deal is garbage and I am hearing Ann Coulter is very upset. Trump better not sign and the government better be shut down or Ann Coulter will call Trump a wimp again.

55 miles? That is a joke. Who cares about spectators. Spectators don't save lives. Only walls do

Feb. 12
08:58 pm JST

Feb. 12
09:00 pm JST

In what liberal math is 55 less than 1% of 2000?

2,000 divided by 55 equals 2.75 percent. We are sorry for the mistake. But you all you need is shoes to walk around the wall that is only 55 miles long. No longer need a ladder. Ann Coulter is not happy. Hannity calls it a garbage deal.

Feb. 12
09:09 pm JST

Feb. 12
09:20 pm JST

It IS a garbage deal. But you said no funding at ALL. So still a win and a nice place to start, not end.

Can you believe this? They call it a garbage deal and a "win" - nope, it's unbelievable...

"Yea, we won and our deal is garbage"....

Hypocrisy and contradiction are concepts they just don't recognize...

You got had Trumpers - just like you did in the shutdown - 30 days, untold damage to our economy, families hurt, borders endangered - and you got nothing, except Coulter calling Donnie a "lunatic" and a "liar".