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ESPN is reporting a trade sending Foye to Wizards. Both teams are directly ahead of the Warriors. Safe to say Minnesota is taking a point guard and Washington isn’t. That should leave Tyreke Evans or Stephen Curry available to the Warriors at No. 7.

UPDATE: I totally missed the part about Minnesota getting Washington’s pick! Wouldn’t it be funny if Minny took Hill and Curry?

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Minnesota has both picks ahead of the Warriors at 5 and 6. That means they can theoretically take a PG and a SG, or a PG and PF. Maybe they take Evans and Curry and form a talented PG SG tandem to go with Love and Jefferson. I like it, whatever they do I am watching closely.

A’s in 2009

Minny PLEASE take Jordan HilL!!!

Frank

I got a feeling their taking Hill and Curry.

samuraaaaiiiiiii

This pretty much leaves us with Jordan Hill… The Wolves are extremely high on Evans, and almost equally high on Curry. The only reason they would have to take Hill would be if he projected to be a Center…

Tdubb

Marcus,

It doesnt matter who they draft. That teams problem starts in the locker room. No leader, no go to guy and a coach with a players ego. Jack is a decent Robin but he ain’t Batman. When BD was here, Jack would keep him honest most of the time but since his departure who’s the man. A rookie draft pick? I said it the other day, look at Denver, it’s cool to have talent but someone on the floor has to be able to get it’s attention other than the coach. Chauncey did that for Denver. Chemistry in this league is the difference between contender and champion. Ask San Antonio, Boston or the Lakers. They all have talent but there is a go to guy who the talent rallies around. It takes a special kind of player to make a teammate better and it’s not just individual talent! Ask Lebron.

MountainJim

Yeah, leadership is a problem but so is the absence of five actual NBA quality starters. And a totally imbalanced roster full of two guards and combo wings. And the worst set of contracts in the league, from a flexibility standpoint.

Perry

Well said, “TDubb and MountainJim”………you guys are absolutely right.

I’ve been saying the same things on my blogs and all the “homers” hate me for it.

But I know what I’m talking about.

This team is destined for another 50 loss season next year, maybe even the following year unless they add a “go to” 4th quarter option and adopt a “team defense” philosophy.

You can take that to the bank.

Perry

Not saying he’s the best player or a “difference maker”…….but I think the best true PG in this draft is Ricky Rubio.

I think he will make some poor decisions in the NBA and also get eaten alive by some other PGs.

But, if everything falls into place, his court vision, his European experience as a player and his ability to pass the ball is the best out of any other PG in the draft.

Stephen Curry is a less athletic version of Monta Ellis but I think Stephen Curry will eventually average more points that Monta, ……I think Curry will be a better scorer than Monta, simply because he has better range and more ways to score.

All that being said…….let’s send the # 7 pick and Monta Ellis to Oklahoma City for the #3 pick and Jeff Green or Nick Collison or Nenad Kristic.

We pick up Ricky Rubio at # 3, he starts at Point.

The following five:

1. Rubio
2. Jackson
3. Randolph
4. Green/Collison/Kristic
5. Biedrins

Perry

That trade scenario I just gave should give us 1 of the best rebounding front lines in the league……..if that’s the direction we want to go.

Randolph, Green/Collison/Kristic, Biedrins should average close to 10 rpg each.

Not saying that’s a “surefire” winning team or anything……but if we need a PG, Rubio is the best rookie PG………because we sure as hell ain’t getting no Chauncey Billups or Chris Paul.

But feasible PG options like Rajon Rondo, an aging Steve Nash and Jamaal Tinsley are all possibilites.

Andre Miller will command too much $$$.

I can’t see Jameer Nelson going anywhere.

Raymond Felton maybe?

darkknight01

The W’s pick seems like it will come down to Curry or Hill. With an outside chance of Earl Clark and Ricky Rubio. IMO.

I think the Kings are gonna take Evans or Rubio, most likely Evans from what I’m hearing now. Lets say they take Evans. Then the Wolves have their choice of PG’s and I have hard time thinking they will take Rubio from some reason. So they take Curry and Hill.

It is possible that Rubio can slip.

If Curry, Hill and Rubio are gone, the W’s should snag Earl Clark!

Or maybe trade down and get Clark a bit later if they can. He is 6-9-6=10, long athletic, room to grow, very versatile, can guard multiple positions, can post, has a decent jumper, can slash that can improve and knows how to play defense. Kinda reminds of Lamar Odom. Can handle the ball for a big man as well!

Raven

wouldn’t it be funny if James Harden drops to #7

damn, we would be the only team to start 4 wing players and 1 center/PF

darkknight01

Looks like Oklahoma City may draft Rubio?

But what about Westbrook?

Perry

“Darkknight”……I know…….ESPN has Rubio going to OKC……but there are others that say Sacramento at #4 for Rubio…….so I don’t know…….

But if we give them Monta, ……they have Westbrook and Monta as their young backcourt which will improve them and probably make them pretty happy.

But as long as we have pick # 3, we can get Rubio……we just need the pick, then we can decide what we want to do with it.

OKC can live with a backcourt of Monta and Westbrook.

darkknight01

“Perry:

I don’t think trading Ellis for the #3 pick for an 18 year old player that is not very athletic like Rubio would be the right move.

I would rather take Tyreke Evans ahead of Rubio at #3 quite honestly. Evans is more athletic, tall at 6-5 stronger, long wingspan, can get to the basket, can play defense, has more upside than Rubio IMO.

jaysohn

I think the Warriors to build around Monta like the Sixers did with Iverson. He’s never going to be a traditional point so pair him with a big defensive two guard. I think we are forgetting the fact that Nellie plans on doing that with Jackson. The Warriors biggest weakness is defense and rebounding. I don’t think either of those are going to be resolved through the draft. The Warriors need to make some smart trades, moving guys like Maggette, Belinelli, Wright or Crawford in some combination for a legitimate power forward and a defensive minded wing.

darkknight01

Trade Wright, Crawford and Bellineli to the Raptors in a sign and trade for Chris Bosh!

darkknight01

The W’s should trade Wright, Crawford and Bellineli to the Raptors in a sign and trade for Chris Bosh and then draft Earl Clark or Stephon Curry with the #7 pick.

jerry

I’d be really surprised if the wolves took Hill. Look at all the frontcourt players they picked up in that deal to go along with Jefferson Love and Craig Smith? Granted Thomas Pecherov and Songaila arent impact players, and they probably won’t all stick around, but now they have huge holes in the backcourt, They basically have Telfair. I can see them going for any of Curry, Evans, Rubio, Derozan or Harden. Hill would be a dumb pick for them and a good one for the Dubs.

I would like to see the W’s draft Hill, ditch Wright and trade Crawford for Steve Blake, he’d be a good backup.

Perry

I would love the Bosh pick-up…….that would be the best case scenario, no question about that…..I’ve always pushed for that.

If not, here are some other viable options, maybe:

Crawford, Wright and # 7 to Dallas for Josh Howard and Jerry Stackhouse?

Gerald is a fantastic weak side shot blocker, excellent defender, he can rebound, run the floor and score.

Raja, of course would be primarily a permimeter shooter who can guard the best perimeter players on opposing teams…….e.g. # 24 (not saying he can stop them, just guard them, don’t get me wrong). I’m not a big Raja Bell fan, because I am a #24 fan….I don’t like Raja that much………but his veteran, defensive mindset and his coachability would be an asset.

And of course, you pick up Felton and hope that solves your PG issue. He improved vastly last year and he may be considered to be “untouchable” by Larry Brown, Rod Higgins and the BET (Black Entertainment Television) owner. But, he is possibly a less athletic version of a younger Baron Davis.

darkknight01

getting wallace and bell for buke and bellinelli would be a nice deal….

JustPuked

Sayanora Crawford

darkknight01

The W’s draft board IMO:

1. Stephon Curry
2. Jordan Hill
3. Earl Clark
4. Demar DeRozan

Perry

“Just Puked”…….What a classic Warrior move by an average GM………..I understand the monetary impact of the deal…..we just want to dump Crawford.

But this goes to show you what we’re in for with Larry Riley at the healm……….

Acie Law and Speedy Claxton for god’s sakes???

Come on Larry, …….with so many question marks around Atlanta’s players like: Josh Smith; Zaza Pachulia and Marvin Williams……we couldn’t do better than Claxton and Law?

Petaluman

Remember, trades only happen if all teams involved agree. I only see one trade in the above thread that has any chance of being accepted by the other team, and that’s because they’re robbing us:

I think we’d still have to throw in another player to make the $ work, and I wouldn’t do it as is.

darkknight01

Get nothing really in return, but just provides salary cap relief….for maybe a bigger deal for Bosh?

Hmm….Trade Wright, Maggette and Belinelli in a sign and trade for Bosh? Then draft Earl Clark, Stephon Curry, Jordan or Demar DeRozan. I doubt though that Curry will be there now that Minny is at 5 and 6. They will take Curry with one of those two picks.

If James Harden falls to 7, the W’s may want to consider taking him and just plugging him in at the 2 spot and move Jackson to the 3?

http://btabasketball.com/forums Jerrry

Trade Wright, Bellinelli, and Maggette for Bosh.

Then draft Jennings.

C: Biedrins
PF: Bosh/Randolph
SF: Jackson
SG: Ellis
PG: Jennings

btabasketball.com/forums

Perry

Let’s hope they actually DO something with that freed up cap space…….

And make a push for D. Nowitzki, C. Bosh, D. Wade and the others in 2010.

Let’s hope they have a plan in place.

Do you guys think they might be even thinking of a bigger deal right now???

Something maybe involving the Maggette contract and a young player????

We’ll see…….that’s how a normal, winning team would approach this……let’s see how our Loser Golden State Warrriors handle it.

Kyle

Dirk isn’t leaving Dallas.
Bosh is going to Miami, New York or Chicago.
Wade is staying put in Miami, waiting for a big FA next summer.

Lufty455

ok the dubs are in process of trading 19 points a game to 5 points a game… Crawford for Law and Claxton. Great move Nellie… lets trade the entire team for your son in Dallas… oops he is the GM. Another classic Dubs trade. Where are you Mr. Mullin??? Please save us from this place of shame…

samuraaaaiiiiiii

The trade for Law and Speedy would be meh, but if we also get the Hawks pick, then it becomes a win/win.

darkknight01

Lufty455 Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
ok the dubs are in process of trading 19 points a game to 5 points a game… Crawford for Law and Claxton. Great move Nellie… lets trade the entire team for your son in Dallas… oops he is the GM. Another classic Dubs trade. Where are you Mr. Mullin??? Please save us from this place of shame…

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I think they could have got more for Crawford….oh well…they just wanted to dump his salary…

commish

Point guard, smoint guard. Realgm is reporting Crawford to Altanta for Law and Speedy. Now what happens if Hill isn’t on the board.

commish

Darkknight. You should know by now we buy high and sell low after Nelson destroys the trade value of anyone who doesn’t fit in or more likely, he doesn’t like. Basically we traded a serviceable “big” in Harrington for Law and Speedy. Kind of like trading Richardson for Wright who Nelson doesn’t like, won’t play and will be gone by the time the season starts for next to nothing as usual.

darkknight01

commish Says:
June 24th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Darkknight. You should know by now we buy high and sell low after Nelson destroys the trade value of anyone who doesn’t fit in or more likely, he doesn’t like. Basically we traded a serviceable “big” in Harrington for Law and Speedy. Kind of like trading Richardson for Wright who Nelson doesn’t like, won’t play and will be gone by the time the season starts for next to nothing as usual.

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I agree…the trade I wanted the W’s to do last year for should have been Harrington and this years #7 pick to Detroit for Chauncey Billups!

But of course Nelson and Rowell blew that….

Perry

Agree with both of you ……”DarkKnight” and “Commish” on Nelson and the Harrington situation.

We absolutely went full circle into another losing Warrior cycle by dumping the Richardson contract for a guy we haven’t even seen develop,……then realizing we need more scoring a year later and adding Corey Maggette……then taking an under-rated, legitimate NBA starter in Harrington and replacing him with Law and Claxton.

Just more of the same non-sense, round and round in circles,…….make a bad move…..then try to correct it with an even stupider one……….the story of the Golden State Warriors.

Gunner

Hopefully the report is incomplete and we will get the Hawks’ 19th pick as well!

Thomas

SIGN AND TRADE FOR BOSH? HE IS ALREADY UNDER CONTRACT! If you are going to propose a trade, do actual research. Wright, Bellinelli, and Maggette for Bosh? Are you seriously going to propse that to the Raptors? Trading their best player, and a top 15 in the league for the 6th 8th 9th best players on the team? Are you kidding? You are not a GM, so stop pretending.

darkknight01

Boshs’ contract is up next year….he would need an extension if the W’s were to pursue him.

Lets see….. the Lakers gave up nobodys for Gasol, the Celtics gave up nobodys for Garnett, the Spurs just gave up nobodys for Jefferson….

Why can’t the W’s give up nobodys (depending on who you talk to) to the Raptors for a player who will leave soon….?

G-dubb36

The G – Dubs pick cast some doubt in some minds but it seems good becuae you Monta who drives to the rim and needs some work on his jump shot not much of a jump shooter range may be 15 – 18 feet. But with Curry you can have Monta dribble drive and kick to the wings for Jackson or to Curry on the opposite side of the floor for a jumper or for a layup to your bigs. It also creates more space for your bigs to rebound. The opposing team must run after the shooter so thier goes your layups. The X – factor Anthony Randolph a big who can shoot,pass, rebound,and dribble. The bench will be loaded just use a ten man rotation barring any injuries. To trade four players for one player with a one – year contract “No Good” Just keep in mind the C- Webber deal that just haunted the G – Men for years (ALA 07 Playoffs). Keep the team in tack and roll with it. “No trade” Remember all of the trades that have haunted the G – Men Kevin McHale, Robert Parrish !!!!!