All Leavers, and a great many Remainers too, have been in denial about what Brexit will mean. like the wave, the only variable is … just how destructive!

The problem all arose because idiot Cameron allowed one option on his ballot with no prospectus, detail, objectives, nor vision. ‘Leave the EU’ was allowed to mean whatever its loony right supporters and gutter press claimed. Voters were sold ideas which were mutually exclusive to a stable and viable economy!

Brexit will cost more than staying in the EU. It will cost more for less. The Tory way. Consultancies and quangos to line the lying Tories pockets. How anyone can vote Tory in Scotland, after Thatcher is a mystery.

Hinkley Point, HS2, Trident and Heathrow. All a total waste of money. Wasting £Billions on grotesque projects of no value. Cutting essential services NHS/Education. Starving vulnerable people to death. The elderly are being killed off. As predicted obese, drink/drug are killing off the people. White tge U.K. Gov does nothing about it. The Scottish Gov does. Minimum pricing will overcome deficiencies. A final decision is being made soon in the Scottish Courts, which have to deal with the fall out every single day.

The UK Gov has cost the EU £Trns sorting out the illegal wars mess. The UK Gov mucking up the world economy. The Westminster Gov causing the worst migrant crisis in Europe. Costing £Trns which the others European/EU countries have to fund. Illegal wars, financial fraud and tax evasion. The UK Gov mucking up the world economy. There has never been a bigger bunch of corrupt, criminal Unionists. They hide their crimes under the Official Secrets Act. Put ‘D’ notices on the Press. in other countries they go to jail.

Thank goodness for the (SNP) Gov standing up for Scotland. The Westminster Unionists are taking £20Billion out of Scotland on mismanaged policies. Trident £1Billion, Illegal tax of 40% on the Oil & Gas industry, costing thousands of jobs in Scotland. More has to be imported in. Including fracked Gas from the US. £4Billion+ loss. Scotland has renewables. Scotland loses EU Grants because of Westminster indecision. £4Billion repayments of loans on money not borrowed or spent in Scotland. £1Billion – no minimum pricing. £3Billion lost in tax evasion. Some whisky companies pay no tax at all on vast profits made in Scotland – Scottish water/barley etc. = £13Billion

Scotland raises £54Billion in tax revenues. £533Billion is raised in the UK. £479 in the rest of the UK. Divide by 11(/12) of the UK pop. = £46Billion. Less is raised pro rata in tgevrest of the UK. The rest of the UK borrows and spends £100Billion more. £50Borrowing in the public sector + £50Billion borrowed on the private sector. Hinkley Point, HS2, Heathrow, schemes in London S/E etc. Where the Tories/Unionists take a slice off of public money for them and their cronies. In consultancies and bank charges, investments etc, Funding their Parties with donations indirectly from public money. Illegal. Ie Osbourne £30Billion illegal raid on the Royal Mail Pension. The consulting bank made £Millions in fees. Osbourne’s best man and brother-in-Law made £Millions. Osbourne father-in -Law a consultant on HS2. The only rail line that was built was to Cameron’s Oxford constituency. Osbourne creeping in and out of Aberdeen destroying the Oil & Gas sector. With illegally high taxes. More has to be importe, including fracked Gas from the US putting up the balance of payment deficit in the UK.

Then passes on the debt to Scotland. Taking £4Billion in repayments on money no borrowed or spent in Scotland.

Illegally taking Scotland’s revenues which should be spent in Scotland and restricting the economy in Scotland by chronic UK mismanagement. The UK Gov does nothing but hold Scotland back. Scotland gets £28Billion in a Block Grant always being cut. Some minute capital payment. £15Billion in (UK) Gov pension/welfare benefits. £3Billion (less than it’s share). Defence

= £50Billion? A £4Billion raid on finances. Westminster takes in loan repayments? not borrowed or spent in Scotland.. While depriving Scotland £20Billion in UK mismanagement.

The SNP are standing up for Scotland. The unionists are just colluding is Westminster criminality. Most of them should be in jail along with the sythophantic Press tax dodgers. The MSM owned by non Dom tax evaders. Influencing UK Gov policies, Most countries do not allow non residents to own the Press. Including the US.

Just keep on voting SNP, SNP. Vote for Independence in the EU. For a better, more equal fairer, prosperous Scotland. Over half of Scotland realises. It just takes the others to waken up. To this unequal union.

Scotland should be building,frigates, supply boats, ferries and turbines on the Clyde but can’t because of Faslane. Trident (squint) the biggest waste of money in Scotland.

John Bull is the sort of idiot who when the tide goes out extra far suddenly runs down to cavort on the newly bared sands.

Wise, informed people see this, remember there has just been an earthquake and grab the kids and run, drive, bike, crawl for the hills.

Us Yes folk are the wise, informed ones who can see the signs of the surging deluge to come. The Pollyanna Yoons are organising games of beach cricket and surveying for beach huts. In cahoots with Brexiters who are doing the same.

The McCrone Report, Thatcher. The illegal, secret taking of Scotland’s resources to be wasted on illegal wars, banking fraud and tax evasion. The BBC the biggest crooks of all. Reporting on tax evasion. They are the one’s doing it. A corrupt institution. All the accounts should be revealed. ‘Strictly Con Dancing’. One in five of the overpaid prima donnas presenters are in it. Jobs for the boys and gals. £3.7Billion. How does that get spent?

The Scottish Gov should publish the EU CAP payments. In the interest of openness. Show how the public money is awarded. The Westminster unionists took payments intended for Scotland and did not distribute them. As part of the UK Scotland receives the lowest CAP payments in the EU. The UK Gov takes it.

” IndyRef2 will come right because Brexit will go wrong ….. Thanks to Theresa May they have managed to manoeuvre themselves into a position of extraordinary weakness – there is a deadline negotiation, which when the clock ticks to midnight the UK loses. “

The UK’s emerging strategy seems to be to have a transitional deal of 2-4 years which amounts to business as usual. However, hurdles of divorce cost and citizen’s rights also need to resolved as part of the pre Brexit negotiations,

The paradox is … those hard Brexiteers who think a crash and burn exit is survivable are driven by rampant British nationalism, yet that same fervour will be the undoing of their beloved UKOK.

Was listening to Martin Kemp, Cat Boyd, and Kevin Pringle have a pretty mature and sensible discussion on the radio…spoiled only by an increasingly irritated interviewer, Brewer possibly, who kept wanting to steer it to SNP doooomed and “independence passe”. The latter an expression he used about three times but the other three ignored. Presumably with no Col Mad Ruth McMad there he felt he had to keep the No Surrender lamp lit as Kemp was not interested in talking about Unionism.

Yes. They realised some months ago that the continuous over promotion of Ruth was not going to save the union. Disgruntled Labour support was going to independence support and not to the Tories. So we will now get lots of promotion of Labour
– London Labour – in Scotland.

Corbyn is coming up to Scotland to do the sort of stuff we should have been doing – and need to start doing on a continuous basis.

There has to be a continuous campaign for independence and it has to start now. Only then – when we judge the results of it – will we be able to move for the precise timing of a referendum.

But a referendum will not be a realistic prospect unless we campaign for independence.
People can be easily persuaded that we should not have referendum if they are not persuaded that we need independence.

Nah! Bill, he’s just been using the same old Westminster Government wonky calculator as the rest of the mathematics challenged YoonYoonists use.

Danny Alexander used it for a while and when he left office he just left it lying about on that table in between the left and right seats in the Commons.

It’s programming is based on the Jackie Baillie wonky Abacus. That’s the one that only has red & white beads with all the blue beads deliberately removed in a fit of peak by Wendy Alexander when she proclaimed to the World, “Bring it on”, and they did.

turned out to be a big fat lie and never happened the way they, Churchill, the entire British state and the BBC said it did
They’ve admitted it was all a big propaganda stunt engineered to make the Brits feel good

But they’re telling the truth about Brexit now aren’t they? well aren’t they?

Totally agree with you. If there are figures available publish them, and make sure every time they are media twisted or manipulated, just hammer them home again and again.
I used to work beside a lot of people who had no real interest in day to day politics or independence, but when informed of the real facts and figures started seeing the light

We joined the Navy to see the world
And what did we see?
We saw the sea
We saw the Pacific and the Atlantic
But the Atlantic isn’t romantic
And the Pacific isn’t what it’s cracked up to be

We joined the Navy to do or die
But we didn’t do and we didn’t die
We were much too busy looking at the ocean and the sky
And what did we see?
We saw the sea
We saw the Atlantic and the Pacific
But the Pacific isn’t terrific
And the Atlantic isn’t what it’s cracked up to be

They tell us that the Admiral
Is as nice as he can be
But we never see the Admiral
Because the Admiral has never been to sea
We joined the Navy to see the girls
And what did we see?
We saw the sea.
Instead of a girl or two in a taxi
We were compelled to look at the Black Sea
Seeing the Black Sea isn’t what it’s cracked up to be

We owe the Navy an awful lot
For they taught us how to do the Sailor’s Hornpipe
And they showed us how to tie a sailor’s knot
But more than that, they showed us the sea
We never get seasick sailing the ocean
We don’t object to feeling the motion
We’re never seasick but we are awful sick of sea

We have to establish one fundamental fact. Voting Labour to let Labour in is just as unhelpful as letting the Tories in.

Why do we continually imply that a Labour vote is less damaging than a Tory vote and then be surprised when folk vote Labour? Labour in Scotland is a unionist party. Any vote for labour is a vote against independence.

I agree – a very powerful letter from Donald Anderson in today’s National

GOLF update: BBC broadcasting the golf on radio. It’s like the 50s. SKY must have the TV contract.
Still no mention of the Scottish player Richie Ramsay, who is no. 5 on the leaderboard with -2, above McIlroy.

Scottish Office cost £Millions to brief against Scotland. Increased alarmingly under Mundell/Davidson. Now unelected representation. Mundell is raking in £Millions of Scottish taxpayers money. Multimillionaire May gets over £2Million in perks.

The elected Scottish Gov is expected to deal with an unelected Tory over Brexit.

Excellent image Chris, Simple, yet effective, like the britnats taking us all off the cliff. Effective in their utter incompetence. I see Treeza is going to holiday in Italy and Switzerland, bet she is eyeing up property so she can escape the yookay when the s**t she has created really hits the fan, like her pals as well. Brexit won’t hinder their lives in any way, the rest, start growing veg in your back garden now!

Ohhhhhhh Corbyn, woo hoo, so honoured he is gracing us with his presence in Scotland. Is he too important to meet with Nicola Sturgeon as well. Will he be asked by the bbc and STV where he stands on brexit, trident, hinkley point etc? No.

These unimportant imperialists think they are above meeting with our First Minister, they could hardly be more arrogant and self important.

They may well be trying to call the SNP’s bluff, by acting as if a GE is imminent, unlike last time when they played a con trick in pretending there would be no snap GE. Even the Labour party knew there would be, and May kept the SNP in the dark. Sinister, undemocractic and dirty tactics.

They are playing games, as usual, holding Scotland to ransome, treating the SNP with nothing but contempt, and in the process treating the people of Scotland with total contempt. Nothing new there, but with 100% of media and big money backing them, we have to counter their attempts to undermine and destroy our democracy.

That can only be done by keeping up with campaigning and staying engaged in whatever way is necessary to bring more people into the, independence is normal and extremely beneficial, mind set.

“Apparently a woman rang the BBC saying there was a hurricane on the way. Well if you’re listening, don’t worry. There isn’t.
Having said that most of the strong winds will be down over Spain and across into France.”
Michael Fish 1987?
Or David Davis 2017?

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