I hesitate to use the word "mind-boggeling" but now understand why, James said, that our reality is so VAST - that we can not comprehend the size of it ... even when we look right at it ... I have been to "devil's peak" and thought to myself, how it looked just like a tree stump, but accepted the explaination that Science gave ... but seeing the remains of the rest of the trees - the "mesa s" all over the West - that were not harvested, was even more shocking, these ancient trees were everywhere ... before they flattened them ... I have also been to the Petrified forest ... and saw organic matter that turned into semi-precious gems and noted how they appeared sawed ... it IS -UN comprehensible - to those "conditioned" by the Hierarchies deceptions ... the evidence reveals- our planet was gutted and laid to waste - yet we somehow survived - and now that we are mingling the "races" - what we have in common (Neanderthal DNA) is becoming dominate - we are "waking up" - by sharing our findings ... and like the vid said, once you gain this new perspective - you will never see life the same again.

it reminded me of the movie Avatar ... and how (and why) our connection to Nature was severed

it also reminds me of how the Plan of Our Creator (not to be confused with "god") was NOT averted ... because - as the WMMs point out - in another three generations (of mingling/globalization) we will all be pre-dominately Neanderthal again- bigger, SMARTER, stronger, more family oriented, more artistic, less hostile, and Independent --- and "bottom line" - much more appreciative of who we are - and what potential we have, when we become aware, and aligned with the Plan of First Source.

_________________"...to know this information and then remain passive—a pure observer—is a programmed response, and that is not an answer to how do I best serve truth? It is a denial of truth.” 5th Interview

Thanx for this star, it helps one realize just how much experimentation of the Annunaki went on and for the length of time that it did! The Nefilim were giants and this shows what an understatement that is! It also shows what they brought here, and/or what the core of the earth did in the process of materialization for all that were on her.

just came across this Vid ... which I also believe is relevant to the topic - because it validates almost everything Dr N has revealed in this interview about the origins of "modern man" - Science still doesn't understand the relationship quite as well as the LTO members - who were there

I was stunned to hear these scientists still clinging to the notion that we are separate species - when it is obvious to them that we interbred - therefore must be the same species to have done it successfully ... the Neanderthal must have presented a very real threat to the Annunaki - and the Remnant Imprint, of the Neanderthal continues to be Anu's biggest threat as the races he created, from Neanterthal DNA and tried to keep separate - share our findings and our genetics - on our way to reaching our full potential as the one species Native to this planet with all its multi-dimensional, and multi-versal potential ...

_________________"...to know this information and then remain passive—a pure observer—is a programmed response, and that is not an answer to how do I best serve truth? It is a denial of truth.” 5th Interview

Here, is an excerpt that is like a picture of comprehension from Jon Rappoport's blog.I think it inter-relates with the 5th Interview.

"A 2012 study out of Bonn University led to a new round of speculation about the nature of the universe. (See here and here.)

The study proposes that cosmic rays undergo a strange energy shift. The energies are "re-fitted" to align with an underlying pattern or lattice. There is only one proper fit; no exceptions are permitted.

If the lattice is, indeed, a basic pixel-like Reality we are interacting with every day of our lives, then we could be living inside a created artifice.

A simulation.

Put this description alongside the hypothesis that the universe is a hologram: lines of code inscribed on a two-dimensional surface deliver instructions on how the lattice is built, and what its properties are.

In other words, the software which holographically projects the universe includes the exact structure of the lattice.

Then, by the rules of the game, energies which don't automatically plug into the lattice-framework precisely, as they're supposed to, are "snapped to" a correct fit, as Mike Adams (Natural News) has suggested.

Mike has made the analogy to a television picture, which consists of pixels that have their own dimensions and structure. So if we imagine an all-encompassing "television picture," this would be the lattice-controlled reality we live in."

Dr. Neruda: “The Anunnaki required it. The exact reason is unknown, but it had something to do with the way that gold modulated the frequency of their body. Gold was an essence to their race. It held a property that was vital to their survival.

Page | 15Sarah: “How long can these beings live?”

Dr. Neruda: “Again, the beings like Marduk or Enki or Anu are not based in spacetime. They are infinite beings, meaning they have no end. They don’t have an age. Neither do we.”

Dr. Neruda: “Again, the beings like Marduk or Enki or Anu are not based in spacetime. They are infinite beings, meaning they have no end. They don’t have an age. Neither do we.”

It seems like a contradiction, until he says “they don’t have an age. Neither do we”. It would seem that in the first quote he is referring to the body which lives and expires, and in the second quote he is referring to the infinite being that resides inside it – in the same way as is true for us.

I have wondered though why they required the gold for modulating the frequency of the body – it probably was not like that in their beginning. Maybe they infused into themselves artificial intelligence which evolved and dominated, and they lost connection with their original intelligence that had formulated their native environment. Whatever the reason, according to the interview gold has a special property. I intrigued.

On another note, you mentioned some issues on Sumbola – which I too am experiencing. I just found that you cannot accept new friends with the Accept button – it seems to have been disabled or deactivated. Then I encountered also that the support desk no longer exists and all the contact emails address are now defunct – so there is no contact at all! They’re obviously not interested in continuing the site and e-publishing business.

Gold when in white powder form through a process of alchemy, when ingested, extends life centuries if you desire. If the Annunaki used it for that purpose amongst others, it is why they could live for such incredibly long periods of time in terms of centuries. Which shows that they are like us, in time, the fourth dimension.

Hi All...Interesting reactions to the 5th interview. Yet words are very limiting and will continue to cause misconceptions and misunderstandings. So it is. You can see why so many years went by before that interview was released. If it had been released before certain events had eventuated, it would not have had the same effect. Very understandable. I recently posted in the News Room and General Member Announcements about a book called The Seventh Sense. If you were to read that book, which is based on a true story, you would find some interesting approaches to guiding individuals through experiences.

Would not the best thing individuals could do would be to experience things for themselves? How else can we know something, unless we experience it? So then, self-empowerment is very important. It is not easy to find that path. Plus, the experiences of the individual are so wide and varying as to cause confusion much of the time. Yet that is understandable. Just as the highest of knowledge is not something one simply hears and understands as it generally is so far-reaching that the individual attempting to discern it will find it difficult beyond words.

So then, is not self-empowerment the way to proceed? And if so, how to self-empower others? If one believes the Wingmaker's information, then one would believe that for every individual that finds self-empowerment, the clock of acceleration towards accomplishing the Wingmaker's stated purpose would be accomplished. So then if many become self-empowered sooner, so then the timeline presented would be shortened?

Was it not stated that the timeline presented was definitely going to come to pass but then it could materialize sooner depending on certain outcomes?

So for those that desire to participate in assisting the Wingmaker's projects, wouldn't there be specific methods that could be utilized to accomplish? Maybe even accelerate that timeline closer to the now? And if so, then would not assisting others to self-empowerment be one of the methods to utilize in accomplishing?

I fully understand there are many methods in assisting the Wingmaker's projects.

The reason these questions are raised in this post is that the book referenced appears to be an attempt at just such a thing...

In the past, it would not have been considered to attempt such things. But when events play out which plainly display a potential of accomplishing, maybe it's the proper thing to be doing?

Maybe it's a question that many will ask themselves? And if so, how to accomplish might be the next question which might be asked?

I’m intrigued about the book you’ve pointed out – so I purchased it on the spot. I’ll read it on my daily train trip from the mountains into the city. There have been many bizarre mini events occur in my reality lately, which make no sense in the order of things that are not supposed to be possible. I wonder if they unfold as a language of actions playing through the spaces of ‘normal’ reality.

Finaliter wrote:

So for those that desire to participate in assisting the Wingmaker's projects, wouldn't there be specific methods that could be utilized to accomplish? Maybe even accelerate that timeline closer to the now? And if so, then would not assisting others to self-empowerment be one of the methods to utilize in accomplishing?

Yes I think so and I am always keen because I feel this calling within.

I can’t help but notice in the world around that the topics covered in the 5th Neruda Interview seem to be filtering more and more through the mainstream in various ways. I did not expect it so quickly, but it is happening. And I am certain also that our personal effort of deprogramming could accelerate what is to come as stated by the Wingmakers. Perhaps it is moving closer towards this time. Even though Time is only a figment of our mind - a fantasy… but hey – who said we can’t fantasize about reality changing here on earth - if it dances in the Heart's Imagination first.

Hi All...Interesting reactions to the 5th interview. Yet words are very limiting and will continue to cause misconceptions and misunderstandings. So it is. You can see why so many years went by before that interview was released. If it had been released before certain events had eventuated, it would not have had the same effect. Very understandable. I recently posted in the News Room and General Member Announcements about a book called The Seventh Sense. If you were to read that book, which is based on a true story, you would find some interesting approaches to guiding individuals through experiences.

Would not the best thing individuals could do would be to experience things for themselves? How else can we know something, unless we experience it? So then, self-empowerment is very important. It is not easy to find that path. Plus, the experiences of the individual are so wide and varying as to cause confusion much of the time. Yet that is understandable. Just as the highest of knowledge is not something one simply hears and understands as it generally is so far-reaching that the individual attempting to discern it will find it difficult beyond words.

So then, is not self-empowerment the way to proceed? And if so, how to self-empower others? If one believes the Wingmaker's information, then one would believe that for every individual that finds self-empowerment, the clock of acceleration towards accomplishing the Wingmaker's stated purpose would be accomplished. So then if many become self-empowered sooner, so then the timeline presented would be shortened?

Was it not stated that the timeline presented was definitely going to come to pass but then it could materialize sooner depending on certain outcomes?

So for those that desire to participate in assisting the Wingmaker's projects, wouldn't there be specific methods that could be utilized to accomplish? Maybe even accelerate that timeline closer to the now? And if so, then would not assisting others to self-empowerment be one of the methods to utilize in accomplishing?

I fully understand there are many methods in assisting the Wingmaker's projects.

The reason these questions are raised in this post is that the book referenced appears to be an attempt at just such a thing...

In the past, it would not have been considered to attempt such things. But when events play out which plainly display a potential of accomplishing, maybe it's the proper thing to be doing?

Maybe it's a question that many will ask themselves? And if so, how to accomplish might be the next question which might be asked?

Live in the Light...

the Lyricus materials, reveal, how to prepare ourselves, for the realization of the Sovereign Integral by telling us our Origins and Destiny - ... Practice, practice, practice, them consistently for a decade or more, and you will be prepared - and understand how integral our relationship with Nature, is ...by design - it alone provides everything we need to experience Independence - unconditionally ...

so the next question is, how sincerely, do we want to experience Independence (now that we have "the formula" : Personal preparedness + Nature = Sovereign Integral Realization ) because nothing prevents us being Independent - and fulfilling the purpose of our creation ... and achieving our destiny.

_________________"...to know this information and then remain passive—a pure observer—is a programmed response, and that is not an answer to how do I best serve truth? It is a denial of truth.” 5th Interview

the original introduction to the WMMs - defined them as a journey to SELF-discovery

_________________"...to know this information and then remain passive—a pure observer—is a programmed response, and that is not an answer to how do I best serve truth? It is a denial of truth.” 5th Interview

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