listen to young jeezy's "my hood" and see a perfect example of drums being in key....

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ahha..when that bass drops in the beat its over lol...I was tryin to figure out what made that shit so tight a while back and its the damn bass man..and how it plays along with the notes...imagine if them 808s were out of key...that shit would sound horrid

I mean u can get away with drums/hihats/crashes/snares not being totally in key..but the bass GOTS to be.

not true, the drums may look like they are clipping, but thats just cause there mixed with all the other elements of the beat with it, the quailty of drums makes it better, if they bang at a low volume, there going to bang at a louder volume.
If you clip your drums, you are not leaving room for the rest of the instruments in your beat. listen

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nah the drums ARE clipped 99% of the time. i didnt just get that info from ann RM member (liquid), i also heard it from an engineer @ patchwerk studios. Yea Platinum Plaque Engineer> you

The only way theyd not leave enuff room for the other instrument is if u clipped them after they went back into the consoles interface...its supposed to b done before

Clippin drums in hip hop is like how white boys distort their guitars in rock...same concept

1. Gather good sounding 24bit drums.
2. Normalize them.
3. Compress to taste
4. cut un heard frequencies (set your 'Q' to 50)
5. boost most dominant frequencies by 2-3 db.
6. Try to have your drum's volume around 6-4db.
7. Kicks, you feel alot more than you hear so a slight touch of Rbass is good.
8. Boost mids just till there is a punch.
9. 3k to 5k usually adds the attack and punch you may want.
10. check the drums in mono and put them in the right stereo feild(i like them in front, right behind the sample or main insturment) a great plug-in for this is sotious: Surround Panning

The only time 24-Bit is used is for recording/mixing..not for sampling. All u need is 16 bit drums...all a higher Bit-Rate does is add more dynamic Range...which isnt necesarry for single one shot drums.

drums DO have a key. ask any drummer and he will tell about tuning drums. and i should fucking know, im sitting right next to my drum kit now and i just tuned it a while ago.

different bands tune their drums differently,all the drums bass, snare and especially toms for fill ins and shit.

everything has a key. a key is a frequency. saying a sound has no frequency is so fucking retarded you need to slap yourself.

thats like saying a light doesnt have a colour.

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Wtf are you talking about dogg. I never said drums aint have no key, im sayin, you can't build no fuckin scale on drums dog. you can't sitt ehre and hit the god damn snare, and expect to producin a fuckin F, G, A, B, B... all consecutively... stop comin in here with that nonsense. of course everything instrument has a key.. but that drum stays in that key, and that key only.. the shit can't move up and down when its struck..get the fuck outta here. and like i said, if tha twas the case, they would have fuckin key signatures when they write for drums.. and they dont... i haven't seen any sheet music wit a god damn key for drums..

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Music Theory Book said:

"There is one more clef you should know and its really the easiest of them all. This clef is used when you're writing for drums and other percussion instruments... those that don't play a fixed pitch. Its called either the percussion clef or the indefinite pitch clef, and it looks like this:

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The neat thing about this clef is that the lines and spaces done correspond to any specific pitches. Instead, you assign different instruments to different parts of the staff.

For example, if youre writin for a drumset, you might assign the bass drum to th ebottom space, the snare drum to the thitd space, and two non-toms to the second and fourth spaces; you can put the ride cymbal on the top line of the staff"
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so u tellin me if a composer needed you to play two keys.. you tellin ME u can kick ONCE, produce an F, then kick again, and produce a B for the person.. in a muthafuckin live performance?

Fuck outta here dog. go play somewhere with that nonsense, I was a drummer also.

I bet you was waitin for me to slip up so u can get at me.. fuck outta my face.

Wtf are you talking about dogg. I never said drums aint have no key, im sayin, you can't build no fuckin scale on drums dog. you can't sitt ehre and hit the god damn snare, and expect to producin a fuckin F, G, A, B, B... all consecutively... stop comin in here with that nonsense. of course everything instrument has a key.. but that drum stays in that key, and that key only.. the shit can't move up and down when its struck..get the fuck outta here. and like i said, if tha twas the case, they would have fuckin key signatures when they write for drums.. and they dont... i haven't seen any sheet music wit a god damn key for drums..

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so u tellin me if a composer needed you to play two keys.. you tellin ME u can kick ONCE, produce an F, then kick again, and produce a B for the person.. in a muthafuckin live performance?

Fuck outta here dog. go play somewhere with that nonsense, I was a drummer also.

I bet you was waitin for me to slip up so u can get at me.. fuck outta my face.

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ok im not trying to cyber beef with you im just saying for a start, you can get different notes out of a drum by hitting it differently, but thats not even the point.

the whole point was when youre making BEATS with drums, nobody plays that shit live on here, its just a sample, and you can very easily tune that sample to any pitch you want (therefore putting it into any key)

so yeh you CAN take your snare for example and get a scale out of it, but thats competely nothing to do with anything cos a scale doesnt mean shit musically, its what you make out of a scale. and hardly ANYONE uses the drum tuned to more than one note in a whole beat.

so basically if you want to make your music better just try getting that one hit snare sample (for example) and adjusting the pitch so that the note is in key with the song. dont knock it, just try it man. it might make ur beats better.