"No general had the authority to command us, former Quaida activist Ali Hamad reports about his time as commander of a Mujaheddin unit in the war in Bosnia. In the Interview with SPIEGEL ONLINE the former terrorist warns of a sleeper network in the Balkan.

SPEIGEL ONLINE: You fought as the commander of a Quaida unit in Bosnia, ordered by Bin Laden. Today you call yourself his biggest enemy. Why did you renounce terrorism?

Hamad: I was hired by Quaida officers in Bahrein when I was 17 years old. My family had cast me out and I welcomed every help that could promise me a mhome and bread. After a 13 month long training in a Quaide camp in Afghanistan I became a soldier in one of Bin Laden's units. He convinced me that we would fight a Holy War for Islam, which was under attack by Judaism and Christianity.

SPEIGEL ONLINE: Including suicide attacks?

Hamad: The lectures in Afghanistan had brain washed me. I would definitely have wired me with explosives and blown me up at some place in cold blood. At least if I would have taken hundreds of our enemies with me.

SPEIGEL ONLINE: You would have had no second thoughts to sacrifice your own life?

Hamad: If you see your fellow fighters run into death without hesitation, you will follow them blindly. Our teachers convinced us that death is painless - one would feel it like the sting of a needle at most. He who would kill a Christian or a Jew would only exchange his visible body with an invisible one.

SPEIGEL ONLINE: In the 8 years that you are already here in the bosnian Zenica prison, you wrote a book about Al Quaida. The book mainly deals with Al Quaeda's role in the war in Bosnia.

Hamad: Al-Quaida wasn't interested in helping the Bosnian muslims, they were interested in creating a base of operations that would allow them to increase their radius of operations - much like the USA with their bases spread across the globe. Some leaders of the Western World noticed that, but did nothing.

SPEIGEL ONLINE: What makes you think that?

Hamad: For example, the bosnian army and our units were supplied with weapons from Iran, in the time of the embargo.

SPEIGEL ONLINE: While standing before the Haag tribunal, you were mainly asked about your connection to the bosnian army. The prosecutors were interested, whether the mujaheddin which are known for their cruelty had been under command of the Bosnians.

Hamad: 1992 there had been a mass influx of mujaheddin into the Balkan. Our route led via Frankfurt toZagreb, Split and from there via Mostar into Bosnia. Croats and Bosnians let us pass, those who wanted a bosnian passport recieved it - though we mostly used false names for that. The political and military command of Bosnia at that time granted us the highest privileges and immunity from the police.

SPEIGEL ONLINE:Was there no protest against your fighting methods?

Hamad: Of course our methods were cruel. Al Quaida demanded to torture the enemy, to cut him into pieces with chainsaws, to massacre him with knives. Though we officially had to obey the command of the bosnian army, our conditions were accepted: No bosnian general was allowed to command us.

SPEIGEL ONLINE: Contrary to the Dayton peace treaty, the foreign combattants stayed in the country - as sleepers for future terror attacks on the european continent?

Hamad: The bosnian leadership put themselves out so we would get bosnian passports after the war, and we were advised to marry bosnian women, so we could stay in the country as civilians. Many Quaida fighters entered humanitarian organisations and got their papers that way. Concerning the future danger of terrorism: Had the terrorism in Bosnia not been able to root in the Balkan, he would not be able to threaten Europe as open as he is doing it now.

SPEIGEL ONLINE: Bosnia wants to become a member of the EU. Doesn't Al Quaida have to fear that the persecution of potential mujaheddin will become much easier for the EU and also the USA this way?

Hamad: In the momentary bosnian leadership, there are people who welcomed our arrival in the past. Also there were 400 native, bosnian mujaheddin in our unit, which supported the terrorist methods of Al Ouaida. Today, maybe 800 Bosnians belong to the so-called "white Quaeda" - Terrorists with white skin. Their enrollment is supported by the economic crisis. They will help later on to expand the terror network in Europe.

This is, as always, a quick translation by me. Better than google translator, feel free to correct me (please not typos, but passages that 'feel' wrong), I am also doing this to improve my written english.

Today, maybe 800 Bosnians belong to the so-called "white Quaeda" - Terrorists with white skin. Their enrollment is supported by the economic crisis. They will help later on to expand the terror network in Europe.

And elsewhere no doubt.

L

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posted on 12/03/2006 7:20:47 AM PST
by Lurker
(Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)

Today, maybe 800 Bosnians belong to the so-called "white Quaeda" - Terrorists with white skin. Their enrollment is supported by the economic crisis. They will help later on to expand the terror network in Europe.

And elsewhere no doubt.

L

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posted on 12/03/2006 7:21:05 AM PST
by Lurker
(Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.)

Hamad: Al-Quaida wasn't interested in helping the Bosnian muslims, they were interested in creating a base of operations that would allow them to increase their radius of operations - much like the USA with their bases spread across the globe.

And Bill Clinton helped them achieve their ends. They couldn't have done it without him.

What sort of American would have supported Al Qaeda in their efforts? Other than the first two on this ping, of course. Dhimmitude is as dhimmitude does.

Outstanding post, and your English is far better than most any of us could do in German!

But could you ask the moderator to properly title this as "White al Qaeda in Bosnia", so that this post gets the attention that it deserves? Even I wasn't sure what the title was saying as it is written. I only read the post becuase it said "Bosnia".

For example, one such group about which details have come to light is the Third World Relief Agency (TWRA), a Sudan-based, phoney humanitarian organization which has been a major link in the arms pipeline to Bosnia. ["How Bosnia's Muslims Dodged Arms Embargo: Relief Agency Brokered Aid From Nations, Radical Groups," Washington Post, 9/22/96; see also "Saudis Funded Weapons For Bosnia, Official Says: $300 Million Program Had U.S. 'Stealth Cooperation'," Washington Post, 2/2/96] TWRA is believed to be connected with such fixtures of the Islamic terror network as Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman (the convicted mastermind behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing) and Osama Binladen, a wealthy Saudi emigre believed to bankroll numerous militant groups. [WP, 9/22/96] (Sheik Rahman, a native of Egypt, is currently in prison in the United States; letter bombs addressed to targets in Washington and London, apparently from Alexandria, Egypt, are believed connected with his case. Binladen was a resident in Khartoum, Sudan, until last year; he is now believed to be in Afghanistan, "where he has issued statements calling for attacks on U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf." [WP, 9/22/96])

This shows that the Bosnian government and its entire leadership, including Alija Izetbegovic, was criminal and permitted torture and mutilation.

This former Mujahideen says they were officially to obey the Bosnian army, but that the army was permissive and didn't complain about their killing methods.

"Our route led via Frankfurt to Zagreb, Split and from there via Mostar into Bosnia. Croats and Bosnians let us pass"

It also shows how Croatia (a Catholic country) helped bring these people into the Balkans. The Bosnian Croats would later be on the receiving end of some of the torture, killings and mutilations of the Mujahideen. Only then did the Croats mind - but if the Mujahideens had kept only to murdering Serbs it would have been A-O.K. for the Croats.

Too bad that in the interview they didn't ask him about specific battles/skirmishes/raids he partook in - the when, where (exactly), estimated killed, civilians/army ratio, men/women, elderly/children, etc. This would be helpful about identifying any mass graves too. Likely some of the bodies the Serbs could not bury are claimed to be Muslims when discovered.

Doesn't it make you mad how the western propaganda portrayed the Bosnian Muslim leadership as moderates when they permitted torture and killings with chainsaws - and they had hundreds of their own homegrown Mujahideen involved too in the slicing and dicing and decapitating of Serbs.

"Doesn't it make you mad how the western propaganda portrayed the Bosnian Muslim leadership as moderates when they permitted torture and killings with chainsaws - and they had hundreds of their own homegrown Mujahideen involved too in the slicing and dicing and decapitating of Serbs.

What makes me maddest is that here we sit, 15 years later, in the US threatened by the same forces that the Serbs fought, and our own US government is still supporting these Islamists in hotbeds like Bosnia and Kosovo while claiming to be "fighting the war on terror". That is what really burns me -- along with the Globalist NGO morons who have our government officials' ear and who claim that these bizarre policies are in "the US' best interests" And our elected government listens to them and not to us!

Pretty soon the usual suspects will turn up to denounce this interview as Serb propaganda, and tell us that the Serbs weren't fighting against Islamic terrorism. Quite frankly, I'm surprised there aren't already posts to that effect on the thread.

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posted on 12/03/2006 6:49:33 PM PST
by The_Reader_David
(And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)

Of course our methods were cruel. Al Quaida demanded to torture the enemy, to cut him into pieces with chainsaws....

Ah, yes. The "Bosnian" Chainsaw Massacre!!!!

Hamad: The bosnian leadership put themselves out so we would get bosnian passports after the war, and we were advised to marry bosnian women, so we could stay in the country as civilians. Many Quaida fighters entered humanitarian organisations and got their papers that way. Concerning the future danger of terrorism: Had the terrorism in Bosnia not been able to root in the Balkan, he would not be able to threaten Europe as open as he is doing it now.

Hamad: In the momentary bosnian leadership, there are people who welcomed our arrival in the past. Also there were 400 native, bosnian mujaheddin in our unit, which supported the terrorist methods of Al Ouaida. Today, maybe 800 Bosnians belong to the so-called "white Quaeda" - Terrorists with white skin. Their enrollment is supported by the economic crisis. They will help later on to expand the terror network in Europe.

Several of us, including yours truly, have been accused of "parroting Serb nationalist lies and disinformation" when we have made statements like this. Now even a Sunni Arab from Bahrain who was an Al Qaeda fighter is confirming that our warnings have been right all along!!!

This is yet another reason to work for the reuniting of the two halves of our civilization--Western and Orthodox. When one limps around with half a civilization, one is liable to do bad things--even enable uncivilized beings like the islamofascists!!!!

Asked if they considered themselves to be supporters of the so-called Wahhabi interpretation and practice of Islam in Bosnia-Hercegovina [B-H], that is, if they practiced this kind of approach to Islam, 3.3 per cent of respondents in B-H gave a positive answer.

This is only one of several questions from a poll conducted five months ago by a Sarajevo Prism Research Agency; a poll that went almost unnoticed by the public. The poll was based on the face-to-face method, going to respondents' homes. The Prism Research representatives say that the margin of error for this survey is plus or minus 7 per cent.

The poll was carried out on a random sample of 431 adult B-H citizens of Muslim religion, and its subject was the so-called Wahhabi interpretation and practice of Islam in B-H. It showed that 3 per cent of the Bosniak population declared themselves as Wahhabis, and that less educated people were more sympathetic to this category.

The B-H citizens who declared themselves as Muslims were asked three questions, which enabled them to express their opinion on the Wahhabi interpretation and practice of Islam in B-H.

The results of this research showed that the two-thirds of the Muslim respondents in B-H had heard or knew something about the Wahhabi interpretation and practice of Islam in B-H. The respondents with higher education were better informed about this type of Islam.

The majority of respondents (69 per cent) were against the presence of the Wahhabi interpretation and practice of Islam in B-H. Nevertheless, every ninth citizen expressed a certain level of support to the presence of this form of Islam (12.9 per cent).

The respondents' view on the Wahhabi interpretation and practice of Islam in B-H largely depended on their level of education.

Namely, those with higher education, in contrast to the respondents with a low level of education, opposed the presence of this interpretation of Islam in B-H.

Arrival of Wahhabis in Bosnia

The arrival of the Wahhabis in B-H is linked with the war, 13 years ago, when various humanitarian workers and Mujahidins began to spread this interpretation of Islam, which had previously not been significantly present in B-H. Except for the research conducted by certain private research agencies, there is no real data on the Wahhabis. The people wearing long beards and short trousers that we can see in the streets and small towns are a big mystery to the majority of people in B-H, including the majority of Bosnian Muslims. There are many people who are even afraid of them because of their attitude and often aggressive preaching and propagation of religion.

The Riaset [highest religious and executive body] of the B-H Islamic Community recently reacted in connection with Wahhabis over "inappropriate aggressiveness of individuals and groups in the interpretation of Islam," by issuing a resolution on the interpretation of Islam.

The B-H Islamic Community reacted after a physical attack and shooting in a mosque in Sandzak [Serbia] between traditional believers and more radical ones, whose appearance and manner of practicing Islam stands out from the long Bosniak tradition in this region (Wahhabis). This reaction came also as a result of the media statements of certain Wahhabis, who severely attacked traditional Islam in B-H and the religious leaders and imams. The resolution calls on the Muslims to demonstrate unity, and it condemns and regards as undesirable in B-H those who create any kind of disturbance in mosques under the pretext of preaching a "true faith."

Even though the official religious institutions believe that the Wahhabis do not represent a threat for the Bosniaks or other B-H citizens, some other institutions think differently.

Extremism negates moderation

At the beginning of this year, Jasmin Merdan [former Wahhabi member] and Adnan Mesanovic, graduate Islamic theologians, translated a piece of work called "Wahhabism - Salafism" by renowned author Hasan Ali Sekkaf. This work gives a scientific interpretation of the meaning and the doctrine of Wahhabism.

Merdan claims that the Wahhabis represent a latent threat in B-H

"There is no doubt that the Muslims demonstrated their tolerance, moderation, and fairness in the past war, for the umpteenth time. These three attributes, along with God's will, are the three main factors for the survival of Islam in this region. If we considered the Wahhabis in the context of these three factors or virtues, the conclusion would undoubtedly be that none of these virtues describes them. Their extremism negates their moderation; their hatred towards others, even towards the Muslims that think differently, negates their tolerance," Merdan said. He is a 26-year-old man from Sarajevo, who obtained his degree in the Arabic language and literature in Jordan, and he is also a hafiz (knows the Koran by heart.)

Merdan and Mesanovic claim that ever since this book was published, for which no B-H Islamic scholar [expressed interest] except for Resid Hafizovic, who was often under criticism because of his warnings about the Wahhabi movement, they have been targeted by the Wahhabis and have been under constant pressure.

"Wahhabism is a dimension of the literal interpretation of certain texts from the Koran and the Hadis regarding God's entity, which emerged already in the early stages of Islam. The essence of this ideology is that it is a sect and the biggest newfangled thing that has ever emerged in the Islamic world," Merdan said, adding that terrorism was only one of the "loose ends of Wahhabism."

Something to be done urgently

Merdan is one of the few people to draw attention to the alarming situation in connection with the Wahhabis in B-H. He says that when the Wahhabis arrived in B-H, 13 years ago, the people disapproved of them, considering them a foreign element. However, over the years, they managed to establish a "brand" so that the Bosniaks have in a way "legalized" their existence in B-H.

The main reason why this movement managed to achieve success in our country in such a short time is an aggressive and radical campaign, generously helped with money from the Arab world made available to the members of this movement. This enabled them to print numberless brochures and booklets containing several pages of their explanations of the essence of Islam, in which they reject all the religious authorities.

Merdan says that the Wahhabis will soon take primacy in B-H unless something is done now.

"In other countries it took them around 30 years to take over power, to put it like this, which would be fatal for us if it happened here. It is enough only to look at what the Wahhabis are doing in Iraq these days, where they plant explosives in mosques and around other buildings of their brothers in Islam, Shi'is, which is a sufficient example to us. The situation has been alarming for quite some time. Senad effendi Agic (chief imam in the United States) and Resid Hafizovic (Faculty of Islamic Sciences) had warned about this even before, but we as a nation usually do not identify troubles until they hit us hard."

In one part of the book, Merdan and Mesanovic warn not only against the danger to traditional Islam, but also against aggressiveness that can lead to terrorism, which, fortunately, has not yet happened to us.

"We should not wait for someone to blow up the US or British Embassy to realize how serious this problem is. Ideological terrorism, which includes the Wahhabis' intimidation of those who think differently, is a platform for practical terrorism. Everything that is happening today in the Muslim world and what we can see on the media every day proves our point. No Muslim, Shi'i or Sufi, or the followers of mezheb (four recognized schools of law in Islam), stands behind the unrest and commits crimes except for the Wahhabis! This also indicates that terrorism cannot be associated with Islam but with only one group of Muslims who have gone astray and whose elements are presented in this book," Merdan says categorically.

Solution is in education

In order to prevent such teaching, Merdan founded the first NGO Centre for Prevention of Terrorism "Zapret," the purpose of which is to explain what this is all about.

Merdan says that the organization does not intend to fight terrorism, as that is the job of the police.

"We have done this in the spirit of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, when he says: "Help your brother, whether he commits violence or is a victim of violence." The question was then asked: "It is fine to help the victim of violence, but why should we help the one who commits violence?" The Prophet answered: "Prevent him from doing it!" Wahhabism is a typical form of indoctrination, and the only way to prevent it is proper education and doctrine. I think this is the only and the best way to resolve this global problem, primarily the problem of the Muslims but of others, as well," Merdan concluded.

The destruction of the Church of the Holy Trinity by the religion of peace in 1999. Serbian Orthodox Diocese of Raska and Prizen Kosovo, Yugoslavia See further examples of muslim zero tolerance for Catholicism in Catholic Serbian Kosovo thanks to the rapist president and his policy for the muslim occupation of Kosovo carried forward by the incumbent president: Islamofacists interfaith ecumenism. Let us not forget these nuts have a very long history of destroying anything contrary to their false religion . These pros' have a very long history of blotting the history of mankind; going back to the total elimination of ancient manuscripts, artifacts, and historical records stored in the greatest library of ancient times - the Library.of Alexander the Great. May His hand smite the heathen leaders of this false religion who intentionally deny the divinity of Christ Jesus to the ignorant masses blindly following the evil instructions intended to destroy Catholicism throughout the world. When our warriors were protecting the billionaire members of the Saudi family in Saudi Arabia, they refused to allow our men and women to display any kind of religious material in their country that didn't promote the religion of death - is-lam!!!

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posted on 12/05/2006 8:06:44 AM PST
by Smartass
(The stars rule men but God rules the stars)

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