yea, I'm a newbie, 05 wrangler se from pa. First of all, read the FAQ for newbies, but still a question. Wanted to go to 31"s, but my local shops are saying they'll rub in the wells when I turn, so will 30's. Here in pa, that's illegal and it will fail inspection. I asked about backspacing or washers between the stops, they said washers are illegal and no one will do the backspacing. Based on what I've heard from you guys, i'd like to go with the 31's, but don't want to spend the cash and find out it won't work, also want to avoid a lift/ new wheels. The dealer says the sahara's stocked with 30's, and there's no difference in the base. So it should work. Anyone gone with 31's on a stock model and have no problems with rubbing? Also, if i go to 31's keeping the stock wheels and suspension, how will it act on the trail?

First, stock unlifted Rubicons come with 31" tires and if your local shops say they'll rub on your TJ which is the same Jeep and lift height, they're wrong. IF a 31" tire rubs which only happens when the steering wheel is turned all the way one way or the other, a single washer under each of two steering stop bolts will cure it. It may not even rub, not all do. A 31" tire won't rub anywhere else. You can use the stock wheels with a 31x10.50 tire._________________The Geezer Jeep: http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
Bob Supplee:supplee@ionet.net or (405) 799-8977

Just wanted to know as a follow up if any of you know off hand what size washers i'd be putting behind those stops. I'm plannin' on gettin some Bridgestone Dueler M/T's, if anyone cares. Anyways, thanks again, you guys are awesome!!!

Seems that ya got the tire question figured out, only other advice is to find a new tire shop . Seriously, alot of places won't deal with anything that isn't in their book of recommended tire sizes for whatever model it be. Chances are that most of these 'guides' don't list a Rubicon's 31" tire for an SE, so they won't touch it because if it isn't in the book, gawd knows it won't work ......anyways, like I said, get a new shop._________________Drink more Ovaltine!!!

3. Any modification has been made to the front end suspension which reduces turning radius, bypasses safety components of original steering mechanism or if there is any lateral movement between the axle and frame.

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3. Any modification has been made to the front end suspension which reduces turning radius, bypasses safety components of original steering mechanism or if there is any lateral movement between the axle and frame.

Since a washer is already welded onto the steering stop bolt, adding one more that matches it and then painting that area well ahead of the inspection so it can get a normal coating of grime on it will get it past the inspector. This is not exactly something that the Jeep's steering stop bolt wasn't designed for already. Some laws are just not appropriate for all vehicles and that's one of them._________________The Geezer Jeep: http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
Bob Supplee:supplee@ionet.net or (405) 799-8977

Since a washer is already welded onto the steering stop bolt, adding one more that matches it and then painting that area well ahead of the inspection so it can get a normal coating of grime on it will get it past the inspector. This is not exactly something that the Jeep's steering stop bolt wasn't designed for already. Some laws are just not appropriate for all vehicles and that's one of them.

Very true. But regardless of whether or not it's a stupid law (which it is), the point is to be aware of the local laws in regards to modifications of a vehicle prior to actually installing the mods on yer Jeep. _________________97 XJ Sport with a bunch of stuff

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Never argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience

Kinda like the extended flare no-no, yet tires need to be covered here thing. Ya try and do the right thing and keep the tires under the flares and get nabbed for having 6" flares . Pity of all it is that most of these regs are pushed thru due to a single type of persisting problem and then all vehicles get lumped into the mess. I can guarantee ya that a Jeep running 6" flares wasn't responsible for the enactment of this regulation........don't get me started about the DOT'zi's here ._________________Drink more Ovaltine!!!

So what do you do about the 6" flares thing, cuz (i'm from pa too) that it's also illegal, but i kinda need to cover up the tires. nazi retards. So what do I do ? And again, what do i do with the spacing on the stops for the wheels, so that i pass inspection in pa? I was planning on just getting 1/4 or 5/16 wheel spacers, but apparently they're illegal too. Sounds like washers are the way to go. Find a friendly shop? anyone know one in pittsburgh?