Comments on: Raiders don rose-colored glasses for Heyward-Beyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/13/raiders-don-rose-colored-glasses-for-heyward-bey/
ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comTue, 31 Mar 2015 22:14:38 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: fordlawhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/13/raiders-don-rose-colored-glasses-for-heyward-bey/#comment-649321
Wed, 21 Jul 2010 12:15:57 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649321Lets see how this kid does with a real QB before we label him the 2nd biggest bust since Marilyn Monroe.
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Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:36:39 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649320I’ve got one word for DHB and that’s confidence. He has to want and expect that ball thrown to him everytime. Once he’s comfortable catching the ball and gets a couple years of experience under his belt, LOOK OUT. I’m gonna say 6 TD’s this year for DHB. He had a horrible start to his rookie season, but I expect him to make some noise this year.
]]>By: NinersRule!http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/13/raiders-don-rose-colored-glasses-for-heyward-bey/#comment-649319
Thu, 17 Jun 2010 11:46:18 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649319DHB isn’t worth the charmin extra soft he wipes his butt with
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Thu, 17 Jun 2010 02:43:50 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649318Silva, talk like that about the Raiders at your own risk. Be a man and show up on opening day running your freakin’ mouth, punk!
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Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:34:43 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649317@Slder78 says:
June 14, 2010 12:44 AM
Any truth to the rumor that the Big XII has invited the Raiders to join their conference? They might actually have a chance at a title there.
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Great Post
There are a couple of openings now aren’t there…..
Nation “Not”
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Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:57:25 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649316@David56
Can we quit with the “Jerry Rice” comparisons? Rice ended up tied for 40th in the league in receptions (19th in receiving yards) following his rookie year. DHB? Well, he tied for 254th in the league in receptions. See any difference?
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Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:30:27 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649315With some work he could be the next Jesse Hester.
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Tue, 15 Jun 2010 12:57:02 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649314So DHB had a less than stellar rookie season. Well, just get in line with the likes of John Elway and Troy Aikman(1-15 rookie season) or Jerry Rice who certainly did not make eyes pop open during his rookie season. I’m 56 years old and remember those three and many others who looked like a bust or near-bust their rookie season.
I’m a die-hard Giants fan, but objectively speaking, I like what the Raiders are doing right now with the team. Might take another season, but the Silver-and-Black may end up making a lot of eyes pop open again. Russell is gone FINALLY with a ton of Al’s money, but it was the best move the Raiders could have made after three seasons and only 7 touchdown passes. Getting rid of Russell and making some very good draft moves has put some wind back behind Oakland’s sails. We’ll see where it all goes over time, but at least it looks good on paper.
]]>By: raider4lifehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/13/raiders-don-rose-colored-glasses-for-heyward-bey/#comment-649313
Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:41:36 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649313We all remember how DHB let the ball bounce off of his shoulder pads right into the hands of a Kansas City Cornerback last year. It cost Bruce Gradkowski another comeback game when he came in for JBust. The next big test for DHB is to see how he catches with pads on. Does he catch with his hands, or is he letting the ball get to his body. I think for Al to publicize that DHB will the next big reciever is putting a lot of pressure on the kid. Right when you think Al has finally found his sensess he goes and does something hairbrain like this.
]]>By: Blk&SlvrSoldierhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/13/raiders-don-rose-colored-glasses-for-heyward-bey/#comment-649312
Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:51:25 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649312He’s just upset that he still gets bullied by RAIDER fans, even on the web. Way to go Sourdouche
]]>By: Trips Right, 68 Slant, D Slanthttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/13/raiders-don-rose-colored-glasses-for-heyward-bey/#comment-649311
Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:49:20 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649311“Give us examples and proof as to why we should believe your nonsensical gibberish of the Raiturds making a run at the AFC Championship.”
Proof? ‘So idiotic (expected though). What can you or anyone prove in the pre-season regarding the prospects of an NFL team? Wow!
If you haven’t seen our gradual improvement towards the close of the ’09 season, our 2010 FA moves, our draft, our new stability in the coaching staff, the coaches’ newfound autonomy, our schedule, etc; then you are the most clueless sap to ever click a Profootballtalk.com link. Matter of fact; you must walk through life totally oblivious and virtually unconscious.
“Simply calling people names is easy, especially behind the safety of your computer.”
You mean like “Raiturds” you lame? And safety from what? Not too many cats can get-down with ex-Infantry soulja. You seem to be so damn keen – How ‘bout you trace my IP, triangulate & confirm my location, then come test your manhood….. Tough guy.
“But what you are really doing is ruining what little credibility you brought to the table.”
Credibilty? Credibility? LMFAO!! Surely you jest… Right? What freakin’ credibility moron? Is that what you care about “in the comment section of a website (continually LMFAO)?”
Get real.
‘Nation…………
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Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:06:22 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649310@JSpicoli: Gannon was selected to a pro bowl his first year in Oakland with three more in a row afte that. Your boy Rice wasnt there for all of those pal. Gruden made him an MVP not Rice. Get facts before you hate buddy
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Mon, 14 Jun 2010 12:55:35 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649309@Trips Right, 68 Slant, D Slant: In order to prove you aren’t just another juvenile poser, please tell the readers of PFT why you believe the Raiturds will win the AFC West and “cruise up and through the playoffs.” Considering the weak Raiturds roster, how do you honestly make a statement like that? Rather than act like a little kid who calls people names when he can’t formulate a valid cognitive argument, give us examples and proof as to why we should believe your nonsensical gibberish of the Raiturds making a run at the AFC Championship. Tell us how they will get by the Colts, Chargers, Patriots and Ravens. Simply calling people names is easy, especially behind the safety of your computer, but what you are really doing is ruining what little credibility you brought to the table. Don’t worry, we know you’ll run and back into your hole once the Raiturds get back to their standard of losing games. Enjoy the offseason because it is all you have.
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Mon, 14 Jun 2010 05:00:43 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649308East Gay Ray, Sour-Bro,
Don’t Hate….. Congratulate.
When you speak, all we hear is Whaun, Whaun, Whaun-Whaun (Charlie Brown’s infamous teacher).
You clowns continually regurgitate to the ‘Nation, to not live in the past regarding our wins and championships; and yet, you doubly-standard break that notion by harping on the last seven years since we lost in the Superbowl.
Who’s your team? Don’t answer that (it’s rhetorical). Let me guess; whoever is currently winning.
Don’t hate the player; hate the game.
Sniff, sniff. I smell……. I smell……. Fear! That most recent and most excellent draft has got you guys surely shook (intentional). ‘Can’t stand those FA moves and savvy trades, hunh? Chuckle.
Come back and see us; come January. LOL.
We’ Out!
‘Nation………..
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Mon, 14 Jun 2010 03:22:52 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649307East Bay Ray says:
June 13, 2010 9:07 PM
Congratulations on being a fan of the first team in NFL history to lose at least 11 games in seven straight seasons.
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No cares how many games you lose … at the end of the season there are 31 losers and one SB Champ.
]]>By: AcidSodahttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/13/raiders-don-rose-colored-glasses-for-heyward-bey/#comment-649306
Mon, 14 Jun 2010 02:16:01 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649306ugh! I’d rather not have the management say anything until after the season to really see how much he’s improved, but you can’t have a perfect offseason.
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Mon, 14 Jun 2010 01:57:25 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649305@ steve W.
Rice had a pro bowl year for the Raiders and went to the SB with his MVP QB he helped create in OAK. I hate to bring facts, but get yours straight.
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Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:54:12 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649304Ravenmuscle says:
June 13, 2010 6:09 PM
Let’s get real… the Raiders don’t have a clue in drafting OR signing free agents. Robert Gallery (bust)…JaFATTEST Russell…Gerald Warren, Javon Walker, KYLE BOLLER.
Of course their spin machine MUST put out something positive about their latest REACH. Somebody has to buy tickets to watch Al Davis’ disastrous bunch of losers.
–Robert Gallery- considered a can’t miss pick and an obvious choice at #2 overall. If you want to call him a bust since he doesn’t play LT, than call Todd Christensen (not sure if you’re familiar) a bust because he didn’t play fullback.
Only issue since switching to guard when Cable joined the staff in 2007 has been injuries . Other than that, has played at a high level that is obvious to those that actually watch him play as opposed to parroting ESPN and comments from 3 years ago.
–JaFATTEST Russell- Definitely a bust, but was viewed by most as a hands-down top 5 pick, contrary to what the Nostradamus’ that have appeared on PFT’s message boards since 2009 would have you think. Hilarious, original nickname by the way! Change your username to Ravenbrains!
–G-E-R-A-R-D Warren- Wasn’t a free agent, but was acquired for a conditional 5th rounder from Denver in 2007. Had his moments but also disappeared for stretches. 3 average to above average years out of a 5th rounder isn’t bad at all. You can’t even spell his name and he wasn’t a free agent…try again Ravenbrains!
Javon Walker- OK, you’re 1 for 4.
Kyle Boller- Saying the Raiders don’t know how to draft, then mocking them for signing this guy to a 1-year minimum deal to compete as a #3 is probably not a smart idea…when YOUR TEAM DRAFTED THE GUY IN THE 1ST ROUND, MORON!
He’s still got the Ravens money they guaranteed him to be their franchise QB, just like every other QB bust from every other team that bounces around the league on minimum backup deals.
His familiarity with new OC Hue Jackson and his ability to understand and help players grasp the new system is why he’s in Oakland. Actually kind smart, don’t ya think?
I doubt you even made it through the whole post before stopping to come up with some totally hilarious, witty nickname for me, Al Davis and/or JaMarcus. If you did though, hopefully you realize that it’s easy to tell when someone is talking out of their a– and in the future, you will do a little research or consider remaining silent before you decide to squawk.
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Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:44:52 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649303Any truth to the rumor that the Big XII has invited the Raiders to join their conference? They might actually have a chance at a title there.
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Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:30:06 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649302edgy1957 says:
June 13, 2010 6:07 PM
Alworth was drafted by the Raiders but they traded him away. Never stepped foot on the field as anything except an opponent.
–Considering you have already shown you can’t read, I will assume you won’t see the answer I provided to bigtex. So I will make this really easy for you.
The press release NEVER SAID ALWORTH WAS A RAIDER. It specifically said: “The greatest wide receivers in professional football have passed through the portals of the Oakland Raiders or have been coached by Davis.”
Davis was an assistant coach with the Chargers when the Raiders traded Alworth to San Diego in 1962. Davis lobbied for the team to make the trade, then convinced Alworth to sign with the Chargers instead of the 49ers (who were an NFL team,) and switch to WR. Alworth credits his success to Davis’ coaching and his belief in Alworth becoming a great WR. Alworth chose Al Davis to present him at his HOF induction ceremony.
That’s why Lance Alworth was included in the press release that you failed to read, yet decided to leave a pointless comment about. Nobody believes Al Davis is claiming him as a Raider except the really smart ones like you. Next!
]]>By: City_Nativehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/13/raiders-don-rose-colored-glasses-for-heyward-bey/#comment-649300
Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:21:18 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649300Instead of focusing on the truth….Raider fans would rather call people haters for another negative article.
Do you know why all the articles are negative about the Raiders . . . because there are NO POSITIVE ONES. Name one positive story to report on?
Another thing….how about most of the named receivers the better part of their careers with other teams?
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Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:21:18 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649301Big Tex says:
June 13, 2010 6:00 PM
“…And BTW, why is Al referencing Alworth as a Raider great when the Raiders traded him as soon as he was drafted?”
–You again. Did you read the friggin’ press release? It’s that link inside the article you can click so you know what PFT is referencing before you try to sound smart. Here I’ll help you out with an answer to your dumbass question:
“The greatest wide receivers in professional football have passed through the portals of the Oakland Raiders or have been coached by Davis.”–from the press release you neglected to read.
Also, you do know that Oakland traded Alworth to San Diego in 1962, when Al Davis was an assistant coach there? Davis convinced the team to trade for him and convinced Alworth to sign with the Chargers instead of the NFL’s 49ers and switch to WR. Answer your question?
Trivia time: Guess who Lance Alworth chose to present him when he was inducted into the HOF?
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Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:09:33 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649299shannscott2000 says:
June 13, 2010 5:22 PM
Of all the 32 teams in the league, the Raiders are probably the worst and definitely my least favorite! And they’re fans are right on par with Philly’s scum-of-the-earth fans. Go every other team except them!
–How is summer break going so far little boy? When does school start up again? Are you going to play soccer this year?
If you are older than 15, you should really think about not ever speaking or posting anything in public again. Nobody cares who your least favorite team is. Go find a paper route or something else to do. Next!
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Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:05:46 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649298BLeedGreeN4Life says:
June 13, 2010 10:10 PM
Al Davis is a jackass.
–How long did it take you to formulate this “post of the year” candidate?
I bet your momma is real proud of her smart baby boy!
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Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:01:24 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649297DirtDawg55 says:
June 13, 2010 5:46 PM
Only the Raiders would claim guys like Jerry Rice and James Lofton as their own. Does that make me a Raider fan because I once watched them on TV?
–Fool, did you actually read the press release? Obviously not, or else you’d realize these players were only said to “…have passed through the portals of the Oakland Raiders…”
Even so, Lofton’s numbers with the 1987 Raiders eclipsed every season he had after he left, except one.
Jerry Rice was a Pro-Bowler with Oakland and had 2 great seasons in 2001 and 2002, with a solid 3rd season considering Rick Mirer was QB for much of the year.
And nice that they threw in Lance Alworth as well. Coached by Al Davis but not a Raider.
–That’s why the previous quote from the press release finishes with “…or have been coached by Davis.”
Silly.
–Silly would be popping off about something when it’s plain to see you have no idea what you’re talking about. Next!
]]>By: sasquash69http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/13/raiders-don-rose-colored-glasses-for-heyward-bey/#comment-649296
Sun, 13 Jun 2010 23:44:54 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649296It was a bad reach for a guy who didn’t have good production in a weak ACC. But in a few seasons he may well develop into a solid speedy wr. Not saying probowl but he may do ok. Davis loves speed and DHB has plenty of that. I’m not a Raiders fan but the league is better when there good because so many people hate them. I think they are slowly getting better.
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Sun, 13 Jun 2010 22:10:48 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649295Al Davis is a jackass.
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Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:43:12 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649294ronniea54 says: June 13, 2010 4:33 PM
Just remember Haters,
Jerry Rice could not catch a cold as a rookie and everyone thought the 49ers had drafted a bust also. It is documented that the kid put in the work this off-season so at least he is trying to improve. As for the press release, no it was not needed the Raiders have been getting rave reviews for all of their off-season moves and the draft so no need for this. The press release should be done after the first 6 games of the season when everyone will realize the kid is a PLAYER.
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Just remember homers, Rice and Moss had their great success with other teams. They were picked up as free agents, and didn’t do for the Raiders nearly what they did for their other teams. So, using them to show how great the Raiders are at selecting and training WRs is kind of pathetic. I’ll be the first person to congratulate the Raiders on their draft and roster moves this offseason. That congratulations does not, however, extend to their previous pick of DHB, nor to their refusal to recognize the obvious…their other receivers are both better and less costly. Selecting DHB 7th overall wasn’t just a reach, it was a big mistake. Everyone except for Al noted all of the problems with his game, as well as his lack of production in college. Al just loves him some 40 times, however. Note to Al, a player’s 40 time doesn’t matter if they have problems getting away from bump coverage at the line and getting open when they run their routes. It also helps if they hold on to the ball when it’s thrown to them.
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Sun, 13 Jun 2010 21:07:31 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649293@Trips Right, 68 Slant, D Slant and Blk&SlvrSoldier:
Responding to my charges of juvenile name-calling with more juvenile name-calling? You guys are brilliant!
Congratulations on being a fan of the first team in NFL history to lose at least 11 games in seven straight seasons.
]]>By: Raiderguyhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/06/13/raiders-don-rose-colored-glasses-for-heyward-bey/#comment-649292
Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:56:09 +0000http://localhost/wp/nbcprofootballtalk/?p=77165#comment-649292you still suck silva
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