Breaking: Bundy family unearths BLM mass cattle grave

Destiny, one of the talking heads said the BLM didn't have the authority to lien his property, but still it makes me wonder what gives them authority
to come in with a militant style of authority to serve him with a bill for services...couldn't they just have... maybe... knocked on his door nicely
instead??

See that's the whole problem. Peta = left and Bundy = right, therefore the two sides shall never meet. We are one nation under god not two. not
left and right. But Huff post, MSNBC and morons like Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Savage, continue to want to divide us for some reason?

Well, tbh, I've quickly caught up with what the issue is here and it seems this Bundy guy is a bit of a dick.

This is a dispute that has been going on for a couple of decades and he has openly threatened violence in an atmosphere of violence (pipe bombs being
laid, or sent to Federal employees etc), has said he doesn't recognise the US Government or Federal Law and that he is a citizen of Nevada - while
also ignoring and trampling (pardon the pun) over State and County law as well.

I'm sorry, but if you act like a prize penis and threaten violence because you refuse to pay the $1.35 per cow a month to graze on public land (when
it would cost a lot more to feed them yourself), then you're going to illicit a heavy handed response from the Law. This has been going on for 20 odd
years with the first court order being issued in 1998 - he's had plenty of time and opportunity to sort this out, but no, he had to go all
"Freeman" and this is what happens.

He is also spitting in the eye of all the other ranchers who do obey the law and pay their fees for subsidised cattle grazing - not very
neighbourly.

I don't know what kind of nutjob left wing blog publications you have been reading, but nowhere in this entire issue have I seen Clive bundy or his
family/supports threaten to blow people up with pipe bombs. You are part of the problem of ATS by spreading disinformation. Do you have any proof of
Cliven Bundy saying he is going to shoot and kill or bomb federal agents?

Heya OP.. Just a follow-up to what I asked on the last page...but is the lack of response an indication that there aren't any specific laws against
the disposal of open range cattle the BLM herd under current policies?

Perhaps there ought to be.. I'm not suggesting much of anything done at Mesquite was right, but I've yet to find a broken law. It's like they had
more lawyers than door kickers in this operation and for years now...because I'm at a total loss to find one i which didn't get it's dot or one t
which isn't crossed in precisely the right way.

Given a Government who often takes liberties with how they do things? On this one, they seem to have decided no lawyer would be left so much as a hint
of a handle to grab onto and challenge.

I've been trying to post while at work. Lol Specific laws, I would have to say trespassing on private land for one. Bundy supposedly owns that land
by right of the homestead act since the late 1800's. It would be like me going to my neighbors house, throwing his kids out, shooting his dog and
claiming it's now mine. Thats pretty much what the BLM did...

Now you could add misrepresentation and conspiracy to commit fraud by Reid too.

originally posted by: Aazadan
After what the BLM did to wild horses in Nevada a couple years ago, this is nothing.

I'm really surprised PETA has never gone after them given just how many and how often they kill animals.

The BLM just got busted in Wyoming for rounding up wild horses and selling them for slaughter!

The Bureau of Land Management rounded up a horse herd that had roamed for decades on federal land in northwest Wyoming and handed the horses over
to Wyoming officials.

They, in turn, sold the herd to the highest bidder, a Canadian slaughterhouse.

Wild horse advocates are incensed, saying they should have had a chance to intercede in the March roundup and auction. But the BLM says that the
horses were abandoned, not wild, and that it publicized the sale beforehand.

I just read that and it's interesting. It does have stipulations for handling dead animals as well as rather extreme specifics to how animals can
graze or be handled on open range land. I see by the URL it's Gunnison, which I assume is Gunnison Colorado for the office it orignates from? Not
that it matters THAT much.. Feds are Feds after all, and it's the same BLM in Colorado as Nevada. Hmmm....

@ Op

I appreciate the reply. I also understand how people interpret and pervieve events out there. It's that topic I'm trying to get sorted out in a
definitive way. What is perception..and what is actual black letter law by chapter and verse to prosecute or arrest someone on? If the Clark County
Sheriff were more like the Laramie County Sheriff or Nye County Sheriff for other Western examples...is there, anywhere within US Federal code, a law
the BLM agents broke that would subject them to arrest?

That's what I'm not finding. They destroyed property...but by Fed Regs, it was property not legal to be on range land. So... Was the property itself
causing destruction or did they destroy innocent corrals and water lines? That may be a legal hook to hang on. The "State land vs. Federal Land"
fight Bundy states HE is fighting this over is a fight HE cannot make.

Can I say...'Hey Obama! Missouri didn't dot the i when my corner of the Missouri Territory became a State...so doom on ya!'? Well.. I can, of
course. The words can form and I can vocalize them....but I'll be violating my own 5th amendment as I do, since they will be used against me later.
Plenty are focusing on philosophy and concepts here ..I'm just hunting actual, real law that applies to both. Thus far...it's not in Bundy's favor,
start to finish.

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