@LilRomeo: you forgot giving Carlos Delfino a contract; for now I have him at 1 year (I'm preparing the spreadsheet), briging your total for 14 players up to 40; I, think, but am not sure this is within the rules for your initial roster, Apollo or Joey might be able to comment on that.

I'm not sure you can do that until Friday. But for now, I just included Delfino on my spreadsheet at 1 year and that makes my overall team at 40. Thanks for reminding.

Q&A:

Soft Euro wrote:

Well, if you are correct, and you probably are, you don't have to apologize; it just reinforces the (among my friends) broadly accepted notion that I'm a big idiot. Can't believe I missed that; pretty mad at myself. So, my apologies. Disregard my remark please.

Also, one trick you all can do if you see someone on the WW you like and think you'd like to maybe sign and re-sign in the off-season: submit a cap of less than forty. This way when you offer a contract you're not offering a one year exception and thus he will be eligible to be re-signed in the off-season. I already have some potential targets on my radar and I am entering the FA period with a cap of 39 with one free roster spot.

joey_hesketh wrote:

As I understand it, you need space to sign someone to fill that 15th spot.
Romeo will need to adjust his numbers accordingly.

No, you need space if you wish to be able re-sign him in the off-season(ie: if you signed Jeremy Lin last season and you were one below cap then you have his rights but if you signed him and your cap was already at least at 40 you will lose him at the end of the season and would be forced to bid on him in the fall). There is no rule that you must sign all 15 players you acquire via the initial start up auction. There is no rule you must sign all 15 players within your cap. There are consequences to not staying within cap though: any waiver gems you find become unrestricted FA's at the end of the season.

Soft Euro wrote:

The sheet is ready, I just have to copy the data. If you sign someone for 6 years, he'll have 5 years left after the season. Apollo, you or me can just lower the contracts after the year. I'm working under the assumption that if you sign someone during the year, his first contractyear is just for the remainder of th season. So if you sign someone in January for 3 years, he'll have 2 years left after the season. Contracts don't expire mid season in the nba either.

Thanks for helping use with this. To update next years cap it's a simply replace all values command. It may be tedious but it'll work. What we need to do throughout the year is indicated which players on roster are unrestricted. This can be a monthly process that I can take care of or we can share it. After everyone is capped we can let it go autopilot for the rest of the year as long as we've noted all restricted players when all teams go capped.

LilRomeo wrote:

I'm not sure you can do that until Friday. But for now, I just included Delfino on my spreadsheet at 1 year and that makes my overall team at 40. Thanks for reminding.

Actually I think any missed players should be listed has having no contract value(no contract value means they must be cut after Friday). Its the responsibility of each manager to look after their own roster and not miss anything.

Matt52 wrote:

Can we get a clarification on how the years count? Is it diminishing as SoftEuro has said or is it constant as Joey has said.

Diminishing. Anthony Davis is listed as 6 on my team this year. Next year he's listed as 5, four years later he's up for contract. Years represent how long you're allocating them to your team. The only way he could be a 6 each year would be if we allowed one contract extension per year. I proposed this a couple pages back but no one has responded to the idea.

Diminishing. Anthony Davis is listed as 6 on my team this year. Next year he's listed as 5, four years later he's up for contract. Years represent how long you're allocating them to your team. The only way he could be a 6 each year would be if we allowed one contract extension per year. I proposed this a couple pages back but no one has responded to the idea.

Thanks.

As for your proposal, I'm fine with whatever. To make it more 'real' we could say any player who is signed for 4 or more seasons is eligible for an extension after year 3.

Didn't you also have a proposal (or was it concrete) about the option to sign up to 2 of your own free agents each year?

You'll get it. Right now all you need to decide is what your cap allocation should be. Maybe save a little flexibility and worry about the other stuff later would be my advice. This league is not just about picking good talent, it's about managing it carefully as well.

Diminishing. Anthony Davis is listed as 6 on my team this year. Next year he's listed as 5, four years later he's up for contract.

I understand this part. But does the hit against the cap diminish as well? I am of the opinion that if we sign someone for 6 years, that 6 years should count against the 40-year-cap for ALL 6 years. As this is far more realistic.

"That was Nasty right? Cocked that Joint back and banged on 'em." -James Johnson

No, it doesn't work that way. It will be far too complicated then. The years are a literal representation. The real league has years(x), plus money(y); "x + y". We're only using x. In the real league the cap is established be limiting y. In our league we're limiting x.

If someone wants to use y then they would first need to build a model on a platform that we all know how to use. Otherwise it would be too hard to maintain.

No, it doesn't work that way. It will be far too complicated then. The years are a literal representation. The real league has years(x), plus money(y); "x + y". We're only using x. In the real league the cap is established be limiting y. In our league we're limiting x.

Which was actually my train of thought when I raised the issue in the first place.
And the best way I could think to remedy it, is if x=y; in that the "Total Years" of the initial contract is the "Salary", and therefore, it could be viewed as a salary cap and not a 'year' cap.

This is how I envisioned it anyway.
Spreadsheet would have 3 columns instead of 2: "Player", "Total Years (Salary)", "Years Left".

Again, this is perhaps slightly more complicated than what is the actual case, but this is just how I had envisioned it working.
If we have an extra 15 years, every-year to Sign/Extend players, then I am obviously fine with that.

Thanks for clarifying Apollo!

"That was Nasty right? Cocked that Joint back and banged on 'em." -James Johnson

@jbml: maybe Chad Buddinger is the more talented brother of Chase and maybe you wanted to draft someone named something like Darren Collisions, but you did draft Nick Collison. It's also Kris Humphries and not Khris Humpries. Maybe you like all seasons, but it's spelled Sessions. It's also Al-Farouq Aminu, not Al Faroq Amino.

As punishment for this blatant disregard for playername-integrity (and giving me work correcting it for the capsheet) I'll ask the moderators to change your Kevin Durant into Kevin Murphy.

An interesting question on the unrestricted part and trades. If I'm over the cap, sign a free agent to an one year deal and trade him next in a deal for other players I'll assume I'm trading the contract, meaning he remains unrestricted after the season. Same goes for incoming players; they'll come with the contract they have including, when on one year deals, restricted or unrestricted.

Now that part's pretty obvious (I think). But now assume the teammanager I traded him too wants to sign him to a longer deal (is under the cap and has enough FA money left to win a bid), can he drop the player and resign him to a new deal which, because he's under the cap, would either be a longer deal or make him restricted after the season? This is probably (only) limited by the rule that you can't pick up a guy on waivers when you dropped him yourself?