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I bought a 15hh Irish in Sept, he hates contact in his mouth or on his sides, but responds to voice and seat. He was fine when I tried him but at home hes started to rush in the school, scared of men and nervous to the touch.
Draw reins help a little due to the constant contact. He’s never reared/bucked/or tried to ditch me, he just canters off but comes back to voice aids eventually.
I'm not sure what else to try, and my new job leaves no time to school him. He is lunged at least twice a week.

I have a cob who came originally from Irish travellers, he was a trotter before we got him so he's more used to voice and too much pressure on his mouth puts him into trotting mode as that's how they get them to go fast, it's all through contact. He's also quite headshy too, but with gentle reassurance and never losing patience with him he has improved enormously and even loves his ears stroked now - it took about a year of constant reassurance to achieve that. If you find he rushes off when you take up contact the best thing to do is give and retake the reins until he slows down and sing "whoa lad" to him (this is how they get them back when trotting) and he will come back to you. I'm not saying your horse was a trotter like mine but he's maybe had similar priciples instilled having also come from Ireland, worth a try. I schooled my horse around 2 - 3 times a week, he was very green under saddle but was only 4 years old, so I just worked away steady and consistantly with him and a year later he was at his first dressage prelim. Good luck.

28 June 2011 07:12

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he sounds like a really scared horse. you could try going bacck to basics with him or try a bitless bridle. natural horsemanship would help too. is he a young horse? because long reining him might help with confidence issues.

hope this helps and hope you find out what to do.

21 June 2011 20:38

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sounds like he lacks a lot of confidence..you should try some natural horsemanship methods..dont go buying a load of crap to do with it but try T-touch its a massage and really relaxes them maks their muscles less tense...if you dont have time i would look into professional help :) Gooood Luck xx

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He sounds like he has many issues that may well need professional attention if you don't have the time. How old is he? When was he broken? What has he done since being broken?

I recommend going back to basics with him, on the ground leading at first then moving to being on board with someone else leading. Do lots of bonding work with him, grooming and leading and such. I would be thinking of trying some natural horsemanship techniques to desensitise him to touch and contact, and show him that these things are good and not frightening.

You've got a long road ahead, which will take a lot of patience. Is there someone who could help you or share him or something so there's less pressure on you? If you are planning on going off competing this summer then I'd think again or find another mount - this horse does not sound ready for anything like that yet.

17 May 2011 18:51

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I'm going to be totally candid here; if your new job isn't allowing you much time, then to be honest, I'd either find someone to loan him or sell him. He sounds like he needs lots of time, patience and groundwork, but if you're unable to give him that, then no quick fix will solve it, I'm afraid.

If you are able to put time aside, then my first thing would to be earn his trust. You say he is scared of men, well presumably he's had a bit of a bad past and perhaps experienced heavy hand riding, hence the constant desire to avoid contact but also the panic he goes through.

If it was me, I'd not be riding him, sometimes with horses we have to remember that they aren't born knowing everything and when they are messed up, we have to be able to spend time fixing those issues in the most empathetic way possible.

I'd start by just earning his trust, grooming him, spending time in the field/stable and just enjoying him. Then I'd begin by doing lots of ground work- long lining him and in-hand work. The in-hand work will really help you see him on the ground and is great for bringing out a horses confidence. You aren't at risk of being thrown off, and you can focus on establishing a contact from the ground. You will have to be really light with him, no punishment etc.

As he responds to voice, you can use this to your advantage. Praising him for being responding well to things, I'd recommend getting an in-hand training book, Oliver Hilberger's is fantastic and also seeking veterinary/dentistry advice, to perhaps try and get to the root of the problem, my guess is that he's had some serious mistreatment in the past and been exposed to firm/rough handling and is a very sensitive horse.

Be patient, take your time and don't worry about riding him yet, just focus on his issues and take it slowly.