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How does outsourcing Engines to any other manufacturers affect their cars sales. am i missing something here.

Originally Posted by lvramanan

Fiat, aren't you ashamed of doing this ? STOP shipping your good engines to other players especially TATA !

TATA is as good as others who receive the same engine. Maruti has better service and coverage of the ASS. If as you say FIAT stops shipping engines to other manufacturers where will FIAT(atleast in India) get their bread and butter from. Sure they cant survive by selling only the paltry no. of cars.

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Originally Posted by roadracer

I will be very surprised if there is a MANZA T-JET

It was just some insider news form the motor beam website. Not confirmed news i think . Lets wait

How does outsourcing Engines to any other manufacturers affect their cars sales. am i missing something here.

When Fiat outsources their engines all other competitors including TATA & Maruti, they simply put them in a tin can to cut cost & market it with a less price spoiling the capabilities of engine. The car becomes crappy over a period of time. See Fiat Punto & Linea T Jet. They're well built cars & they know what their engines are capable of. But did they sell enough numbers ? No.

Originally Posted by machi vijay

TATA is as good as others who receive the same engine. Maruti has better service and coverage of the ASS. If as you say FIAT stops shipping engines to other manufacturers where will FIAT(atleast in India) get their bread and butter from. Sure they cant survive by selling only the paltry no. of cars.

Agree with your point. But good engines like TJET doesn't deserve a place in a car like Manza ! I wonder with the power under the bonnet, if a user rips off the Manza, all the doors & the body would get jolted down & fall off in the middle of the road... Their build quality is what I'm worried about. They tend to become disjointed over a period of time.

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Ok guys Chill. The T-Jet thingy was just a insider rumour news. Still not confirmed . But dont miss the comdey done by TML by doing dual tone exterior

he Tata Indigo Manza is available in six colors – wine, red, grey, white and silver come with black roof, while black colored Manza comes with silver roof. This roof color combination is only offered on the EX and EXL variants. The Indigo Manza is powered by a 1.3-litre Quadrajet90 diesel which produces 90 PS of peak power at 4000 RPM and 200 Nm of peak torque between 1750-3000 RPM. The petrol engine is powered by a 1.4-litre Saffire90 engine which produces 90 PS of peak power at 6000 RPM and 116 Nm of peak torque at 4750 RPM. Both engines are mated to a 5-speed manual gearbox.
Tata Motors is expected to announce a 75 BHP diesel engine of the 1.3-litre Quadrajet motor, while Fiat’s T-Jet engine could also finds its way into the Manza’s hood. The petrol model is priced at Rs. 5.7 lakhs where as the diesel one is priced at Rs. 6.4 lakhs. The company has planned to add 200 more service and sales points taking the total number to 1200 across locations in India. The company is looking forward to bring a drastic change in their customer service. Stay tuned as live updates continue.

I wonder with the power under the bonnet, if a user rips off the Manza, all the doors & the body would get jolted down & fall off in the middle of the road... Their build quality is what I'm worried about.

That was exaggeration . I also drive the Manza 90 ps qudrajet . I have gone at 140 kmph max. The engine and tyre noise is only on higher side. No other side effects. Maybe the T-Jey power is more but for 90Ps Quadrajet the buid quality is Ok.

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Originally Posted by roadracer

You had put some insider news and then asking us now to chill. No, we will not chill.

I mean the Motorbeam guy says itself insider news they received. In this link also given TML expected to offer T-Jet . So not yet confirmed.

Originally Posted by roadracer

I would like to see a MANZA with that T-Jet engine

I also would like to see. But god save all those bystanders who will be hit by the nuts and bolts and the doors flying from the Manza hitting them at high speeds.