Guest wrote:It's doable within the realm of reason but something about announcing our intentions here on this board makes me feel like nothing will get done due to the "someone else will take the initiative effect". That and broadcasting to Kaz and company to stifle any attempts make me a pessimist. Hopefully people continue to make the effort in person to make this a reality.

Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that the PBA paid for the white BMW his wife drives around? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that he's used the PBA credit card to buy super expensive golf clubs from his family's Whirlaway Golf Center up in Boston? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied filling up his boat with fuel on the PBA credit card? Because people inside the PBA know it's true, that's why! Elect Dan Glissen, get an audit done, and let the chips fall where they may. Who knows, maybe some of those golf clubs wound up in Ric Bradshaw's golf bag. Maybe the golf bag came in from Whirlaway Golf Center too. Kaz is the weak link. Squeeze him and who knows what will come out....

Where's the State Attorney's Office Public Corruption Unit? Where's the FBI? Where's the FRS? Was Katie Lagrone the only "journalist" in the County with balls? Beat cops are low hanging fruit to feast on, right? Does somebody have to have a picture of Bradshaw handing Kazanjian a brown paper bag with $37,000 cash for "UNUSED" paid time off (nod, nod, wink, wink) to get Al Johnson off his butt? Double-dipping time off used up and paid for by PBSO and paid for again by PBA while off on all those cruises and vacations and golfing and then cashed out? That's triple-dipping! Over 10 years on fulltime release sitting on a bar stool at the PBA or smoking cigars on his boat and he gets a high risk FRS pension?

Kaz is scared. If he gets voted out this Fall he's useless to Bradshaw and Aronberg. That's when things could get difficult. Like an investigation of the 800 hours he cashed out of PBSO. Like a PBA credit card audit. Other PBA presidents have been taken out of there union halls in handcuffs. DAN GLISSEN FOR PBA PRESIDENT!

[quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"]It's doable within the realm of reason but something about announcing our intentions here on this board makes me feel like nothing will get done due to the "someone else will take the initiative effect". That and broadcasting to Kaz and company to stifle any attempts make me a pessimist. Hopefully people continue to make the effort in person to make this a reality.[/quote]

Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that the PBA paid for the white BMW his wife drives around? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that he's used the PBA credit card to buy super expensive golf clubs from his family's Whirlaway Golf Center up in Boston? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied filling up his boat with fuel on the PBA credit card? Because people inside the PBA know it's true, that's why! Elect Dan Glissen, get an audit done, and let the chips fall where they may. Who knows, maybe some of those golf clubs wound up in Ric Bradshaw's golf bag. Maybe the golf bag came in from Whirlaway Golf Center too. Kaz is the weak link. Squeeze him and who knows what will come out....[/quote]

Where's the State Attorney's Office Public Corruption Unit? Where's the FBI? Where's the FRS? Was Katie Lagrone the only "journalist" in the County with balls? Beat cops are low hanging fruit to feast on, right? Does somebody have to have a picture of Bradshaw handing Kazanjian a brown paper bag with $37,000 cash for "UNUSED" paid time off (nod, nod, wink, wink) to get Al Johnson off his butt? Double-dipping time off used up and paid for by PBSO and paid for again by PBA while off on all those cruises and vacations and golfing and then cashed out? That's triple-dipping! Over 10 years on fulltime release sitting on a bar stool at the PBA or smoking cigars on his boat and he gets a high risk FRS pension?[/quote]

Kaz is scared. If he gets voted out this Fall he's useless to Bradshaw and Aronberg. That's when things could get difficult. Like an investigation of the 800 hours he cashed out of PBSO. Like a PBA credit card audit. Other PBA presidents have been taken out of there union halls in handcuffs. DAN GLISSEN FOR PBA PRESIDENT!

Guest wrote:It's doable within the realm of reason but something about announcing our intentions here on this board makes me feel like nothing will get done due to the "someone else will take the initiative effect". That and broadcasting to Kaz and company to stifle any attempts make me a pessimist. Hopefully people continue to make the effort in person to make this a reality.

Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that the PBA paid for the white BMW his wife drives around? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that he's used the PBA credit card to buy super expensive golf clubs from his family's Whirlaway Golf Center up in Boston? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied filling up his boat with fuel on the PBA credit card? Because people inside the PBA know it's true, that's why! Elect Dan Glissen, get an audit done, and let the chips fall where they may. Who knows, maybe some of those golf clubs wound up in Ric Bradshaw's golf bag. Maybe the golf bag came in from Whirlaway Golf Center too. Kaz is the weak link. Squeeze him and who knows what will come out....

Where's the State Attorney's Office Public Corruption Unit? Where's the FBI? Where's the FRS? Was Katie Lagrone the only "journalist" in the County with balls? Beat cops are low hanging fruit to feast on, right? Does somebody have to have a picture of Bradshaw handing Kazanjian a brown paper bag with $37,000 cash for "UNUSED" paid time off (nod, nod, wink, wink) to get Al Johnson off his butt? Double-dipping time off used up and paid for by PBSO and paid for again by PBA while off on all those cruises and vacations and golfing and then cashed out? That's triple-dipping! Over 10 years on fulltime release sitting on a bar stool at the PBA or smoking cigars on his boat and he gets a high risk FRS pension?

[quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"]It's doable within the realm of reason but something about announcing our intentions here on this board makes me feel like nothing will get done due to the "someone else will take the initiative effect". That and broadcasting to Kaz and company to stifle any attempts make me a pessimist. Hopefully people continue to make the effort in person to make this a reality.[/quote]

Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that the PBA paid for the white BMW his wife drives around? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that he's used the PBA credit card to buy super expensive golf clubs from his family's Whirlaway Golf Center up in Boston? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied filling up his boat with fuel on the PBA credit card? Because people inside the PBA know it's true, that's why! Elect Dan Glissen, get an audit done, and let the chips fall where they may. Who knows, maybe some of those golf clubs wound up in Ric Bradshaw's golf bag. Maybe the golf bag came in from Whirlaway Golf Center too. Kaz is the weak link. Squeeze him and who knows what will come out....[/quote]

Where's the State Attorney's Office Public Corruption Unit? Where's the FBI? Where's the FRS? Was Katie Lagrone the only "journalist" in the County with balls? Beat cops are low hanging fruit to feast on, right? Does somebody have to have a picture of Bradshaw handing Kazanjian a brown paper bag with $37,000 cash for "UNUSED" paid time off (nod, nod, wink, wink) to get Al Johnson off his butt? Double-dipping time off used up and paid for by PBSO and paid for again by PBA while off on all those cruises and vacations and golfing and then cashed out? That's triple-dipping! Over 10 years on fulltime release sitting on a bar stool at the PBA or smoking cigars on his boat and he gets a high risk FRS pension?[/quote]

Guest wrote:It's doable within the realm of reason but something about announcing our intentions here on this board makes me feel like nothing will get done due to the "someone else will take the initiative effect". That and broadcasting to Kaz and company to stifle any attempts make me a pessimist. Hopefully people continue to make the effort in person to make this a reality.

Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that the PBA paid for the white BMW his wife drives around? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that he's used the PBA credit card to buy super expensive golf clubs from his family's Whirlaway Golf Center up in Boston? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied filling up his boat with fuel on the PBA credit card? Because people inside the PBA know it's true, that's why! Elect Dan Glissen, get an audit done, and let the chips fall where they may. Who knows, maybe some of those golf clubs wound up in Ric Bradshaw's golf bag. Maybe the golf bag came in from Whirlaway Golf Center too. Kaz is the weak link. Squeeze him and who knows what will come out....

Where's the State Attorney's Office Public Corruption Unit? Where's the FBI? Where's the FRS? Was Katie Lagrone the only "journalist" in the County with balls? Beat cops are low hanging fruit to feast on, right? Does somebody have to have a picture of Bradshaw handing Kazanjian a brown paper bag with $37,000 cash for "UNUSED" paid time off (nod, nod, wink, wink) to get Al Johnson off his butt? Double-dipping time off used up and paid for by PBSO and paid for again by PBA while off on all those cruises and vacations and golfing and then cashed out? That's triple-dipping! Over 10 years on fulltime release sitting on a bar stool at the PBA or smoking cigars on his boat and he gets a high risk FRS pension?

[quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"]It's doable within the realm of reason but something about announcing our intentions here on this board makes me feel like nothing will get done due to the "someone else will take the initiative effect". That and broadcasting to Kaz and company to stifle any attempts make me a pessimist. Hopefully people continue to make the effort in person to make this a reality.[/quote]

Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that the PBA paid for the white BMW his wife drives around? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that he's used the PBA credit card to buy super expensive golf clubs from his family's Whirlaway Golf Center up in Boston? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied filling up his boat with fuel on the PBA credit card? Because people inside the PBA know it's true, that's why! Elect Dan Glissen, get an audit done, and let the chips fall where they may. Who knows, maybe some of those golf clubs wound up in Ric Bradshaw's golf bag. Maybe the golf bag came in from Whirlaway Golf Center too. Kaz is the weak link. Squeeze him and who knows what will come out....[/quote]

Where's the State Attorney's Office Public Corruption Unit? Where's the FBI? Where's the FRS? Was Katie Lagrone the only "journalist" in the County with balls? Beat cops are low hanging fruit to feast on, right? Does somebody have to have a picture of Bradshaw handing Kazanjian a brown paper bag with $37,000 cash for "UNUSED" paid time off (nod, nod, wink, wink) to get Al Johnson off his butt? Double-dipping time off used up and paid for by PBSO and paid for again by PBA while off on all those cruises and vacations and golfing and then cashed out? That's triple-dipping! Over 10 years on fulltime release sitting on a bar stool at the PBA or smoking cigars on his boat and he gets a high risk FRS pension?

Guest wrote:It's doable within the realm of reason but something about announcing our intentions here on this board makes me feel like nothing will get done due to the "someone else will take the initiative effect". That and broadcasting to Kaz and company to stifle any attempts make me a pessimist. Hopefully people continue to make the effort in person to make this a reality.

Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that the PBA paid for the white BMW his wife drives around? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that he's used the PBA credit card to buy super expensive golf clubs from his family's Whirlaway Golf Center up in Boston? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied filling up his boat with fuel on the PBA credit card? Because people inside the PBA know it's true, that's why! Elect Dan Glissen, get an audit done, and let the chips fall where they may. Who knows, maybe some of those golf clubs wound up in Ric Bradshaw's golf bag. Maybe the golf bag came in from Whirlaway Golf Center too. Kaz is the weak link. Squeeze him and who knows what will come out....

[quote="Guest"]It's doable within the realm of reason but something about announcing our intentions here on this board makes me feel like nothing will get done due to the "someone else will take the initiative effect". That and broadcasting to Kaz and company to stifle any attempts make me a pessimist. Hopefully people continue to make the effort in person to make this a reality.[/quote]

Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that the PBA paid for the white BMW his wife drives around? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied that he's used the PBA credit card to buy super expensive golf clubs from his family's Whirlaway Golf Center up in Boston? Wonder why Kaz hasn't ever denied filling up his boat with fuel on the PBA credit card? Because people inside the PBA know it's true, that's why! Elect Dan Glissen, get an audit done, and let the chips fall where they may. Who knows, maybe some of those golf clubs wound up in Ric Bradshaw's golf bag. Maybe the golf bag came in from Whirlaway Golf Center too. Kaz is the weak link. Squeeze him and who knows what will come out....

Guest wrote:It's doable within the realm of reason but something about announcing our intentions here on this board makes me feel like nothing will get done due to the "someone else will take the initiative effect". That and broadcasting to Kaz and company to stifle any attempts make me a pessimist. Hopefully people continue to make the effort in person to make this a reality.

ONLY the elected PBA Representatives from the departments can make this happen. But it is doable. Dues-paying PBA members who been screwed by Kaz deciding not to file a grievance on their claims or for firing Lipman and who are sick of the in-your-face spending on himself (the wife's no-show job, the white BMW she drives around, his newest PBA vehicle, his kid's jobs, buying cigars and golf clubs on the PBA credit card at an out-of-state golf store his family owns), have to lean on their elected PBA Representatives and tell them Kaz and his whole family & friends program over there has got to go! Kaz can't stifle a member talking to a PBA Representative car-to-car or over lunch or on the phone. That's what really scares Kaz. He could lose the free lunch never-pay-for-anything-multiple-salaries-and expense-accounts-free-ride-and-jobs-for-the-family-for selling-out-to-Bradshaw life. Everybody knows whats going on over at the PBA. C'mon!

[quote="Guest"]It's doable within the realm of reason but something about announcing our intentions here on this board makes me feel like nothing will get done due to the "someone else will take the initiative effect". That and broadcasting to Kaz and company to stifle any attempts make me a pessimist. Hopefully people continue to make the effort in person to make this a reality.[/quote]

ONLY the elected PBA Representatives from the departments can make this happen. But it is doable. Dues-paying PBA members who been screwed by Kaz deciding not to file a grievance on their claims or for firing Lipman and who are sick of the in-your-face spending on himself (the wife's no-show job, the white BMW she drives around, his newest PBA vehicle, his kid's jobs, buying cigars and golf clubs on the PBA credit card at an out-of-state golf store his family owns), have to lean on their elected PBA Representatives and tell them Kaz and his whole family & friends program over there has got to go! Kaz can't stifle a member talking to a PBA Representative car-to-car or over lunch or on the phone. That's what really scares Kaz. He could lose the free lunch never-pay-for-anything-multiple-salaries-and expense-accounts-free-ride-and-jobs-for-the-family-for selling-out-to-Bradshaw life. Everybody knows whats going on over at the PBA. C'mon!

It's doable within the realm of reason but something about announcing our intentions here on this board makes me feel like nothing will get done due to the "someone else will take the initiative effect". That and broadcasting to Kaz and company to stifle any attempts make me a pessimist. Hopefully people continue to make the effort in person to make this a reality.

It's doable within the realm of reason but something about announcing our intentions here on this board makes me feel like nothing will get done due to the "someone else will take the initiative effect". That and broadcasting to Kaz and company to stifle any attempts make me a pessimist. Hopefully people continue to make the effort in person to make this a reality.

Guest wrote:I have read numerous posts on different threads questioning why Gary Lippman was fired, why we didn't provide the truth on the VEBA, and now you are questioning our integrity relative to all the scholarships we have invented to get money. Next you will question our partnership with Sheriff Ric Bradshaw and the laundering of money. We, the executive board will do what we want, when we want, and you, the paying members of this organization will shut up...PERIOD. do not dare come to this meeting thinking we are going to give you any answers. We will have pur own quorum to defeat any feeble attempts you may make. Kaz WILL be president for LIFE. Ernie WILL be executive director for LIFE. Get over it. Come and eat, drink and be merry as always. Just vote yes on whatever we bring up. Don't say a word. You know the drill because you have been doing it for yeara. Don't do anything differnt and there will be no problems.

A little history fer y'all and a prediction for the future! A year later and Kaz is up for "re-election" except he's never been elected. PBA representatives are the only ones get to vote for president and executive board members. At one of the next meetings some ass-wipe sitting on a barstool in the back is going to pull out the script Kaz gave him and read "I make a motion Kaz and the whole executive board stay on for another 4 years. They are doing an awesome job." Another ass-wipe PBA representative Kas APPOINTED and sitting off to the side is then going to pull out the script Kaz gave him and read, "I second that motion." Kaz will then read his own note and say, "All in favor of the motion say aye" and all the APPOINTED PBA REPRESENTATIVES Kaz appointed will yell "aye!" and its over. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. SAD!

Doesn't have to go that way again. Nominate somebody, make sure its a secret ballot vote and it's over for Kaz. Hey, hey, ho, ho Kaz & Co, have got to go! This is doable!

[quote="Guest"][quote="Guest"]I have read numerous posts on different threads questioning why Gary Lippman was fired, why we didn't provide the truth on the VEBA, and now you are questioning our integrity relative to all the scholarships we have invented to get money. Next you will question our partnership with Sheriff Ric Bradshaw and the laundering of money. We, the executive board will do what we want, when we want, and you, the paying members of this organization will shut up...PERIOD. do not dare come to this meeting thinking we are going to give you any answers. We will have pur own quorum to defeat any feeble attempts you may make. Kaz WILL be president for LIFE. Ernie WILL be executive director for LIFE. Get over it. Come and eat, drink and be merry as always. Just vote yes on whatever we bring up. Don't say a word. You know the drill because you have been doing it for yeara. Don't do anything differnt and there will be no problems.[/quote]

A little history fer y'all and a prediction for the future! A year later and Kaz is up for "re-election" except he's never been elected. PBA representatives are the only ones get to vote for president and executive board members. At one of the next meetings some ass-wipe sitting on a barstool in the back is going to pull out the script Kaz gave him and read "I make a motion Kaz and the whole executive board stay on for another 4 years. They are doing an awesome job." Another ass-wipe PBA representative Kas APPOINTED and sitting off to the side is then going to pull out the script Kaz gave him and read, "I second that motion." Kaz will then read his own note and say, "All in favor of the motion say aye" and all the APPOINTED PBA REPRESENTATIVES Kaz appointed will yell "aye!" and its over. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. SAD![/quote]

Doesn't have to go that way again. Nominate somebody, make sure its a secret ballot vote and it's over for Kaz. Hey, hey, ho, ho Kaz & Co, have got to go! This is doable!

Guest wrote:I have read numerous posts on different threads questioning why Gary Lippman was fired, why we didn't provide the truth on the VEBA, and now you are questioning our integrity relative to all the scholarships we have invented to get money. Next you will question our partnership with Sheriff Ric Bradshaw and the laundering of money. We, the executive board will do what we want, when we want, and you, the paying members of this organization will shut up...PERIOD. do not dare come to this meeting thinking we are going to give you any answers. We will have pur own quorum to defeat any feeble attempts you may make. Kaz WILL be president for LIFE. Ernie WILL be executive director for LIFE. Get over it. Come and eat, drink and be merry as always. Just vote yes on whatever we bring up. Don't say a word. You know the drill because you have been doing it for yeara. Don't do anything differnt and there will be no problems.

A little history fer y'all and a prediction for the future! A year later and Kaz is up for "re-election" except he's never been elected. PBA representatives are the only ones get to vote for president and executive board members. At one of the next meetings some ass-wipe sitting on a barstool in the back is going to pull out the script Kaz gave him and read "I make a motion Kaz and the whole executive board stay on for another 4 years. They are doing an awesome job." Another ass-wipe PBA representative Kas APPOINTED and sitting off to the side is then going to pull out the script Kaz gave him and read, "I second that motion." Kaz will then read his own note and say, "All in favor of the motion say aye" and all the APPOINTED PBA REPRESENTATIVES Kaz appointed will yell "aye!" and its over. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. SAD!

[quote="Guest"]I have read numerous posts on different threads questioning why Gary Lippman was fired, why we didn't provide the truth on the VEBA, and now you are questioning our integrity relative to all the scholarships we have invented to get money. Next you will question our partnership with Sheriff Ric Bradshaw and the laundering of money. We, the executive board will do what we want, when we want, and you, the paying members of this organization will shut up...PERIOD. do not dare come to this meeting thinking we are going to give you any answers. We will have pur own quorum to defeat any feeble attempts you may make. Kaz WILL be president for LIFE. Ernie WILL be executive director for LIFE. Get over it. Come and eat, drink and be merry as always. Just vote yes on whatever we bring up. Don't say a word. You know the drill because you have been doing it for yeara. Don't do anything differnt and there will be no problems.[/quote]

A little history fer y'all and a prediction for the future! A year later and Kaz is up for "re-election" except he's never been elected. PBA representatives are the only ones get to vote for president and executive board members. At one of the next meetings some ass-wipe sitting on a barstool in the back is going to pull out the script Kaz gave him and read "I make a motion Kaz and the whole executive board stay on for another 4 years. They are doing an awesome job." Another ass-wipe PBA representative Kas APPOINTED and sitting off to the side is then going to pull out the script Kaz gave him and read, "I second that motion." Kaz will then read his own note and say, "All in favor of the motion say aye" and all the APPOINTED PBA REPRESENTATIVES Kaz appointed will yell "aye!" and its over. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss. SAD!

You got that right. PBA has been a little frat clubhouse for the Kazanjians friends and family for 10 years or so since Bradshaw let him go on full-time "release". And the guy hasn't paid out of his own pocket for anything since the PBA free ride he made for himself.

You got that right. PBA has been a little frat clubhouse for the Kazanjians friends and family for 10 years or so since Bradshaw let him go on full-time "release". And the guy hasn't paid out of his own pocket for anything since the PBA free ride he made for himself.

I just read this whole thread start to finish. The most demoralizing reading I ever did. Anybody paying dues to the PBA needs to do the same thing. I don't get to vote on a fucking thing with the PBA other then who my PBA reps are every 3 or 4 years, and Kaz winds up "appointing" his own reps anyways. The thread just ends with nothing changing. The disgraceful Lippman firing fiasco is just "old business" and the letter he wrote defending a PBA member still isn't posted, and nobody cares. Sometime next month or so Kaz is going to reward himself with a big PBA raise, a new PBA car, more PBA benefits and be president for another bunch of years even though he's done at the SO. No "elected" PBA rep does anything about anything and nobody cares.

I just read this whole thread start to finish. The most demoralizing reading I ever did. Anybody paying dues to the PBA needs to do the same thing. I don't get to vote on a fucking thing with the PBA other then who my PBA reps are every 3 or 4 years, and Kaz winds up "appointing" his own reps anyways. The thread just ends with nothing changing. The disgraceful Lippman firing fiasco is just "old business" and the letter he wrote defending a PBA member still isn't posted, and nobody cares. Sometime next month or so Kaz is going to reward himself with a big PBA raise, a new PBA car, more PBA benefits and be president for another bunch of years even though he's done at the SO. No "elected" PBA rep does anything about anything and nobody cares.

The whole time he was at the PBA Attorney Lippman never backed down on a PBA member. He got fired for doing what a union lawyer is supposed to do by a "union president" doing everything a union president is not supposed to do. Kazanjian showed his loyalty to Sheriff Bradshaw and his disloyalty to the dues-paying members keeping him off the road assigned to the PBA Bar & Grill for the last 10 years. Kaz showed his ass to every PBA member, and every one of them backed down on Gary. "Cowards" is the right word.

The whole time he was at the PBA Attorney Lippman never backed down on a PBA member. He got fired for doing what a union lawyer is supposed to do by a "union president" doing everything a union president is not supposed to do. Kazanjian showed his loyalty to Sheriff Bradshaw and his disloyalty to the dues-paying members keeping him off the road assigned to the PBA Bar & Grill for the last 10 years. Kaz showed his ass to every PBA member, and every one of them backed down on Gary. "Cowards" is the right word.

Men and women with guns and powers of arrest acting like they don't see what's going on right under their noses. If they're waiting for "crumbs" from Kaz then they are prostitutes. If they're afraid to take action they are cowards.

Men and women with guns and powers of arrest acting like they don't see what's going on right under their noses. If they're waiting for "crumbs" from Kaz then they are prostitutes. If they're afraid to take action they are cowards.

The city cops put up with Kaz skimming all their PBA dues money and living high on the hog while giving them "union" lawyers with no union experience because they all hope he'll share. Everybody over at the Kazmahall sucks up to Kaz and his PBA Grill Team crew hoping they'll get free hotel rooms in Vegas and at the high-end golf resorts he takes his crew to, too. Its all about that $250,000 cash coming in every month plus the "charity" money that Kaz can spread around, so the city PBA reps stay close hoping he'll drop some crumbs. That's why only one guy stood up to him over General Counsel Lippman getting fired, but Kaz is probably taking care of that guy now so it doesn't happen again.

The city cops put up with Kaz skimming all their PBA dues money and living high on the hog while giving them "union" lawyers with no union experience because they all hope he'll share. Everybody over at the Kazmahall sucks up to Kaz and his PBA Grill Team crew hoping they'll get free hotel rooms in Vegas and at the high-end golf resorts he takes his crew to, too. Its all about that $250,000 cash coming in every month plus the "charity" money that Kaz can spread around, so the city PBA reps stay close hoping he'll drop some crumbs. That's why only one guy stood up to him over General Counsel Lippman getting fired, but Kaz is probably taking care of that guy now so it doesn't happen again.

I can understand why the Sheriff's Office PBA reps are scared of Kaz. Him and Bradshaw can ruin any of their careers and he makes sure everybody knows it. He's a wannabe hanging out with Staluppi and acting like a tough guy. But why are all the police departments PBA reps putting up with his bullshit? All those Boynton cops he promised his buddy Bradshaw would hire? Them and the Delray cops and the Martin County deputies he's done nothing for. And then they all got fucked by Kaz when he fired Lippman as a favor to Bradshaw. Why are all those guys putting up with him? I don't get it.

I can understand why the Sheriff's Office PBA reps are scared of Kaz. Him and Bradshaw can ruin any of their careers and he makes sure everybody knows it. He's a wannabe hanging out with Staluppi and acting like a tough guy. But why are all the police departments PBA reps putting up with his bullshit? All those Boynton cops he promised his buddy Bradshaw would hire? Them and the Delray cops and the Martin County deputies he's done nothing for. And then they all got fucked by Kaz when he fired Lippman as a favor to Bradshaw. Why are all those guys putting up with him? I don't get it.

WRONG!!!! No motion or vote needed for Kaz to hang onto the multiple PBA salaries, PBA clothing allowances, credit cards, "charity expense accounts, BMW and a new second PBA car he wrote into the new rules for himself and the wife, along with the keys to the PBA liquor closet, PBA Cigar Smoking Room and the PBA refrigerators. As the PBA "Life Member" he made himself and Ernie George, Kaz won't need any motion from anybody when he's done with his DROP. Kaz changed the PBA Constitution and By-Laws so that it says a "Life Member" can "hold office". So when he's done with the DROP this October, he'll just continue as PBA President because the rule changes he wrote says he can. No motion or vote necessary. Done deal. PBA President for Life Kazanjian! "Making the Kazanjians Great Again (and Again)"!!!!

Democracy? What democracy?

WRONG!!!! No motion or vote needed for Kaz to hang onto the multiple PBA salaries, PBA clothing allowances, credit cards, "charity expense accounts, BMW and a new second PBA car he wrote into the new rules for himself and the wife, along with the keys to the PBA liquor closet, PBA Cigar Smoking Room and the PBA refrigerators. As the PBA "Life Member" he made himself and Ernie George, Kaz won't need any motion from anybody when he's done with his DROP. Kaz changed the PBA Constitution and By-Laws so that it says a "Life Member" can "hold office". So when he's done with the DROP this October, he'll just continue as PBA President because the rule changes he wrote says he can. No motion or vote necessary. Done deal. PBA President for Life Kazanjian! "Making the Kazanjians Great Again (and Again)"!!!!

"Unelected PBA President" Kaz is right! Nobody ever ran against him since Ernie George appointed Kaz PBA president. Since then Kaz just arranges for one of his do-boys to make a motion that he stay on as president, some other do-boy bobblehead seconds the motion as planned, and then a bunch of other balless reps yell "AYE" and its over. Kaz gets to keep the multiple PBA salaries, the credit cards and the BMW. In a few weeks theres going to be a PBA Meeting and one of the do-boys is going to make a motion that Kaz stay on as PBA president even though he's done at the SO. Some other do-boy bobblehead will second the motion, and then a bunch of other balless reps will yell "AYE" and it will be over. Kaz will continue as PBA president for life as a PBA "Lifetime Member." Union democracy in action!

"Unelected PBA President" Kaz is right! Nobody ever ran against him since Ernie George appointed Kaz PBA president. Since then Kaz just arranges for one of his do-boys to make a motion that he stay on as president, some other do-boy bobblehead seconds the motion as planned, and then a bunch of other balless reps yell "AYE" and its over. Kaz gets to keep the multiple PBA salaries, the credit cards and the BMW. In a few weeks theres going to be a PBA Meeting and one of the do-boys is going to make a motion that Kaz stay on as PBA president even though he's done at the SO. Some other do-boy bobblehead will second the motion, and then a bunch of other balless reps will yell "AYE" and it will be over. Kaz will continue as PBA president for life as a PBA "Lifetime Member." Union democracy in action! :shock: :shock: :shock: :lol:

Somebody at the SO or at the PBA has access to Lippman's letter disputing the IA report in the Stokes case. If Stokes is back then the letter is a public record under Florida Freedom of Information Act Section 119. Somebody needs to post that letter here.

Somebody at the SO or at the PBA has access to Lippman's letter disputing the IA report in the Stokes case. If Stokes is back then the letter is a public record under Florida Freedom of Information Act Section 119. Somebody needs to post that letter here.

Unelected PBA president "Kaz" Kazanjian fired long-time PBA Union General Council Lippman after almost 20 years at the PBA because Sheriff Bradshaw told him to do it. Gary caught the IA Investigator Combs misrepresenting facts in his IA report about Agent Stokes and called out PBSO Legal too. PBSO Legal Advisor Joe Bradshaw "retired" immediately. Bradshaw called Kaz on the telephone and reminded him that Johnnie "Kaz Junior" was hired as a deputy despite his background and psychological, and that he also hired Kristen Kazanjian as a civilian but put her into a FRS "high liability" pension position she wasn't the top candidate for, and that her husband (Kaz's son-in-law) was hired at Fleet Management despite other applicants ranked higher for the position. Kaz got the message and right after Bradshaw hung up Kaz called Lippman and fired him on the telephone. That's the facts. The "letter" must a been a doozy because Stokes is still around even though Lippman is gone. Your never going to see that letter.

Unelected PBA president "Kaz" Kazanjian fired long-time PBA Union General Council Lippman after almost 20 years at the PBA because Sheriff Bradshaw told him to do it. Gary caught the IA Investigator Combs misrepresenting facts in his IA report about Agent Stokes and called out PBSO Legal too. PBSO Legal Advisor Joe Bradshaw "retired" immediately. Bradshaw called Kaz on the telephone and reminded him that Johnnie "Kaz Junior" was hired as a deputy despite his background and psychological, and that he also hired Kristen Kazanjian as a civilian but put her into a FRS "high liability" pension position she wasn't the top candidate for, and that her husband (Kaz's son-in-law) was hired at Fleet Management despite other applicants ranked higher for the position. Kaz got the message and right after Bradshaw hung up Kaz called Lippman and fired him on the telephone. That's the facts. The "letter" must a been a doozy because Stokes is still around even though Lippman is gone. Your never going to see that letter.

Is that letter Lippman wrote in the Stokes IA ever going to get posted? Its odd that it hasn't been posted yet. PBA members should have a right to see what their "union" president fired their "union" lawyer over. No?

Is that letter Lippman wrote in the Stokes IA ever going to get posted? Its odd that it hasn't been posted yet. PBA members should have a right to see what their "union" president fired their "union" lawyer over. No?

What did Kaz get for firing Lippman? He's going to get a free SUV from Bradshaw when he's done with the DROP. He got Bradshaw to push that law through the County Commission that's going to give Kaz and Kaz Junior the Spring Training details at Roger Dean and at the new Ballparks of the Palm Beaches, along with events details. at the County Convention Center

What did Kaz get for firing Lippman? He's going to get a free SUV from Bradshaw when he's done with the DROP. He got Bradshaw to push that law through the County Commission that's going to give Kaz and Kaz Junior the Spring Training details at Roger Dean and at the new Ballparks of the Palm Beaches, along with events details. at the County Convention Center

40 hours a week for full-time release? Kaz isn't there 40 minutes a week. Gary Lippman opened that office every morning and closed it every night for 15 years. Kaz delivered a huge favor to Bradshaw by firing him and screwed every PBA member. I wonder what he's getting in return for that one.

40 hours a week for full-time release? Kaz isn't there 40 minutes a week. Gary Lippman opened that office every morning and closed it every night for 15 years. Kaz delivered a huge favor to Bradshaw by firing him and screwed every PBA member. I wonder what he's getting in return for that one.

Quit yer bitching an' whining. My new PBA lawyers are gonna have Lippman's experience in about 19 or 20 years. Me an' Bradshaw can take care of you, cuz we meet an' talk about all the IA cases. If you still need a PBA lawyer at the SO after me an' Ric talk about yer case then it doesn't make any difference who the hell I assign to your sorry ass. Especially now that Lippman is gone.

Quit yer bitching an' whining. My new PBA lawyers are gonna have Lippman's experience in about 19 or 20 years. Me an' Bradshaw can take care of you, cuz we meet an' talk about all the IA cases. If you still need a PBA lawyer at the SO after me an' Ric talk about yer case then it doesn't make any difference who the hell I assign to your sorry ass. Especially now that Lippman is gone.

You can see what experience lawyers have by going to the Florida Bar website and entering the lawyer's name in "Find a lawyer". Get the names of the new PBA lawyer you want to check out from the PBA website and the drop dpwn "Meet the Staff". The Florida Bar website will tell you what the lawyer specializes in, like what "sections" they belong to (like "criminal defense" or "labor and employment law" ect). Your not going to like what you see, but don't trust me. Look for yourself to see who Kaz replaced Gary Lippman with.

You can see what experience lawyers have by going to the Florida Bar website and entering the lawyer's name in "Find a lawyer". Get the names of the new PBA lawyer you want to check out from the PBA website and the drop dpwn "Meet the Staff". The Florida Bar website will tell you what the lawyer specializes in, like what "sections" they belong to (like "criminal defense" or "labor and employment law" ect). Your not going to like what you see, but don't trust me. Look for yourself to see who Kaz replaced Gary Lippman with. :shock:

Guest wrote:But if you get the private invite to show up at the PBA hall early on nights the Patriots are playing you get to eat lobster and see all the good uses of your PBA dues money. Forget about where $250,000 coming in every month keeps going and forget that Kaz fired the best cops union lawyer in Florida because the Sheriff told him to. Losing Gary Lippman is no big deal if your last name is Kazanjian or your on the PBA Grill Team. Think positive. What could happen that you might need a good lawyer?

We got Rich King. He reminds me of denzel.

[quote="Guest"]But if you get the private invite to show up at the PBA hall early on nights the Patriots are playing you get to eat lobster and see all the good uses of your PBA dues money. Forget about where $250,000 coming in every month keeps going and forget that Kaz fired the best cops union lawyer in Florida because the Sheriff told him to. Losing Gary Lippman is no big deal if your last name is Kazanjian or your on the PBA Grill Team. Think positive. What could happen that you might need a good lawyer? :o :shock: :lol:[/quote]

So why hasn't somebody outside of PBSO made a public records demand for the letter Lippman wrote and for whatever the final deal was, if there was a deal jammed down Stoke's throat. Let the sun shine in. POST WHAT LIPPMAN WROTE SO PBA MEMBERS CAN JUDGE FOR THEMSELF WHAT OUR SUPPOSED "UNION" PRESIDENT KAZ DID!

So why hasn't somebody outside of PBSO made a public records demand for the letter Lippman wrote and for whatever the final deal was, if there was a deal jammed down Stoke's throat. Let the sun shine in. POST WHAT LIPPMAN WROTE SO PBA MEMBERS CAN JUDGE FOR THEMSELF WHAT OUR SUPPOSED "UNION" PRESIDENT KAZ DID!

True that! Kaz already rewrote the PBA rules so he can stay PBA president after he's done at PBSO. Kletzy's been bought off with a no-show job for his wife as a PBA "Office Assistant" same as Kaz's wife, and nobody else is gonna make a peep. Lippman's gone for good, so after Bradshaw's re-election and Kaz's retirement the 2 of them are going to go after a whole lot of folks on their hit lists. Lock and load!

True that! Kaz already rewrote the PBA rules so he can stay PBA president after he's done at PBSO. Kletzy's been bought off with a no-show job for his wife as a PBA "Office Assistant" same as Kaz's wife, and nobody else is gonna make a peep. Lippman's gone for good, so after Bradshaw's re-election and Kaz's retirement the 2 of them are going to go after a whole lot of folks on their hit lists. Lock and load!

Guest wrote:No one with integrity or ethics can stay at the PBA. Kaz feasts on the perpetual flow of a quarter of a million dollars coming in every single month making himself richer and fatter. He makes sure to spread it around for Bradshaw and sheriff's office PBA reps to keep everybody fat and quiet. Nobody pays for anything over there except with there souls. Look at the new PBA magazine on the website. With Lippman gone theres no pretending anymore.

This is just priceless; PBSO extortionists bitching and whining about the PBSO scum they elected (especially Bradshaw) extorting them

[quote="Guest"]No one with integrity or ethics can stay at the PBA. Kaz feasts on the perpetual flow of a quarter of a million dollars coming in every single month making himself richer and fatter. He makes sure to spread it around for Bradshaw and sheriff's office PBA reps to keep everybody fat and quiet. Nobody pays for anything over there except with there souls. Look at the new PBA magazine on the website. With Lippman gone theres no pretending anymore.[/quote]

This is just priceless; PBSO extortionists bitching and whining about the PBSO scum they elected (especially Bradshaw) extorting them :lol:

No one with integrity or ethics can stay at the PBA. Kaz feasts on the perpetual flow of a quarter of a million dollars coming in every single month making himself richer and fatter. He makes sure to spread it around for Bradshaw and sheriff's office PBA reps to keep everybody fat and quiet. Nobody pays for anything over there except with there souls. Look at the new PBA magazine on the website. With Lippman gone theres no pretending anymore.

No one with integrity or ethics can stay at the PBA. Kaz feasts on the perpetual flow of a quarter of a million dollars coming in every single month making himself richer and fatter. He makes sure to spread it around for Bradshaw and sheriff's office PBA reps to keep everybody fat and quiet. Nobody pays for anything over there except with there souls. Look at the new PBA magazine on the website. With Lippman gone theres no pretending anymore.

Lippman had more then 20 years experience representing cops. Kaz fired him on orders from Bradshaw because Lippman stopped the Sheriff from firing Stokes. Kaz replaced him with 2 lawyers that have no experience representing cops. Guess who our "union" president is working for.

Lippman had more then 20 years experience representing cops. Kaz fired him on orders from Bradshaw because Lippman stopped the Sheriff from firing Stokes. Kaz replaced him with 2 lawyers that have no experience representing cops. Guess who our "union" president is working for. :shock: :o :oops: :(

Rumor is that Stokes got a take-it-or-leave-deal cooked up by Bradshaw and Kaz. Take it or leave (like his ex-PBA lawyer did). Lippman's the only one that got screwed. No good deed goes unpunished if Bradshaw and Kaz have any say in it. Until the PBA takes out the trash I'll take my chances with Sessa.

Rumor is that Stokes got a take-it-or-leave-deal cooked up by Bradshaw and Kaz. Take it or leave (like his ex-PBA lawyer did). Lippman's the only one that got screwed. No good deed goes unpunished if Bradshaw and Kaz have any say in it. Until the PBA takes out the trash I'll take my chances with Sessa.

Kaz doesn't have control over PBSO public records. Whatever Lippman wrote about the Stokes IA case should be a public record by now if Stokes is back already. That means the file is closed and the supposed "letter" and whatever final decision on Stokes can be posted here. LETS SEE IT!!!!

Kaz doesn't have control over PBSO public records. Whatever Lippman wrote about the Stokes IA case should be a public record by now if Stokes is back already. That means the file is closed and the supposed "letter" and whatever final decision on Stokes can be posted here. LETS SEE IT!!!!

Shuuduup ya piece of sh#t!!! Ask anybody that's over here at the PBA office, I say no to Bradshaw all the time! Like when he asks if the PBA is gonna file a grievance if he violates the contract. I say no! Like when he asks if the PBA will make a stink about him stacking a termination review board against a deputy. I say no! Like when he asks if the PBA is gonna object when he decides to disqualify cops from city agencies I promised would get hired by PBSO. I say no! Like when he asks me if I'm done getting jobs on his payroll for my family and friends. I say no! Like when he asked me if I would hesitate to fire PBA General Counsel Lippman if he told me to. I said no. Like when he asked if I was gonna give up the PBA president job when I'm done with my DROP. I said hell no!

Shuuduup ya piece of sh#t!!! Ask anybody that's over here at the PBA office, I say no to Bradshaw all the time! Like when he asks if the PBA is gonna file a grievance if he violates the contract. I say no! Like when he asks if the PBA will make a stink about him stacking a termination review board against a deputy. I say no! Like when he asks if the PBA is gonna object when he decides to disqualify cops from city agencies I promised would get hired by PBSO. I say no! Like when he asks me if I'm done getting jobs on his payroll for my family and friends. I say no! Like when he asked me if I would hesitate to fire PBA General Counsel Lippman if he told me to. I said no. Like when he asked if I was gonna give up the PBA president job when I'm done with my DROP. I said hell no!

Kaz can't say no to Bradshaw as long as Bradshaw is signing paychecks for Kaz's kids and his son-in-law. And Kaz's wife wouldn't a had that no-show job at the PBA for the last 10 years if Kaz wasn't on full-time release. How can he ever say no?

Kaz can't say no to Bradshaw as long as Bradshaw is signing paychecks for Kaz's kids and his son-in-law. And Kaz's wife wouldn't a had that no-show job at the PBA for the last 10 years if Kaz wasn't on full-time release. How can he ever say no?