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From everything I've read in LN, Campiones can learn fighting abilities such as martial arts and magic through training, but they can only learn how to use their authorities (this seems to apply only to the authorities) through actual combat, it is a condition imposed by the powerful magic which creates the Campiones (explained by Pandora on vol11).

As to what is absorbed during the usurpation of authorities, always seemed to me that Campione acquires an ability that is related to the characteristics of the god he killed, however the Campione's authority resulted from the procedure is shaped to match the characteristics of the Campione. To me it seemed also that part of the essence of life from God was also transferred, increasing the magic power of the Campione.

Is the magical power of Campione also increased when they kill god the second time? When Luo Hao and Voban are introduced I really don't get the impression that their magic capacity far surpassed Godou, only their number of authority. And if the old timer really got significant boost on their magic capacity, doesn't it make them impossible to beat considering they have already slay more god than their junior and other god really don't have any way to increase their magic capacity. If Voban or Luo Hao really have much more magic they can easily overpower their authority with more magic making their attack far more stronger. In that case Godou should be beaten instantly when he is exchanging lightning with Voban and Luo Hao's fist should be far more devastating.

Well, Voban said that when he fights seriously he is not so easy to deal with. At the end of the fight between Godou and Voban, Godou can only compete because he was being energized by the power of probably hundreds to thousands of people (and ghosts) who were in the area around the fight, and only won because in the end Voban chose to retreat .

It has been shown several times, with more than one Campione, that when they put real effort and focus on channeling more energy than normal in an authority the result is actually more powerful.

The body of an Campione adjusts to always be in their best condition possible (Vol11) in order to be always ready to fight, but I have not read anything that indicates if this best condition possible is always fixed and determined at the time of the rebirth as Campione or if this can change over time.

Anyway it turns out to be a difference in interpretation between us. We will make sure that only if zzhk or any other senior member appears to enlighten us.

in the novels shows that godou won these fights but if you read more carefully you will notice that they are not even close in power .
voban was toying with godou and only "lost" the battle, because he made the rule that if the morning came is he lost.
against luo hao, she was more like a mother watching her son fight and telling him what to do.
what i want to tell is that if these two was serious from the start the fight will be more like the first time that Godou fight against Doni where he was not able to do anything or like the fight against Alec where godou lost really easy..
Yes Godou is weaker than the others Campione , but that is the point of the novel where someone weak as human can win against a god..
i dont remember where i read but someone in the novel said that what make a person a campione is the ability to obtain victory even if the chances are really really small.. and that what he did against all the others gods-campione.. ( i think the disciple of luo hao said that).

remember volume 2 !! voban only use 4 authority when facing godou and his magical power decreased a lot, you think he can use 10 authority !!!? authority has it's amount magical power you know,there are authority with only required small magical power like godou [bull] and huge amount magical power like [white stallion] so it's hard to judge.that's why i think godslayer can only used 5 - 6 authority at full power in a battle.I think campione and god magical or divine power already ridiculously high so there is no wide gap between them (except for great sage which is abnormal).

Actaully it's funny you mentioned vol. 2 because here's a line from vol. 2 chap.7 part 4 describing the difference between Godou and Voban power levels.

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The old king and Campione who fought continually over the past three centuries, and the immature one who just debuted. There was an unbridgeable gap between their power levels.

Unbridgeable gap sounds pretty big to me.

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Well liliana grandfather is huge fan of voban,maybe he wants to be grandfather in law !!!?

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Originally Posted by m4rc0s

when lily was given to voban, liliana grandfather objetive was for her be in the same type of relationship Erica have with Godou (lovers) so we can think that the deal was to Liliana become voban's woman.

That's more then a little distrubing.
Although I wonder if they have Campione strenght viagra.
Isn't it a little sad for Godou half the girls in his harem used to be Voban.

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Originally Posted by m4rc0s

in the novels shows that godou won these fights but if you read more carefully you will notice that they are not even close in power .
voban was toying with godou and only "lost" the battle, because he made the rule that if the morning came is he lost.

So true that's why I called it a death game Voban gave him a head start in fleeing and set the length till dawn if he had been serious Godou would have been dead within 30 min of arriving at his compound.

Actaully it's funny you mentioned vol. 2 because here's a line from vol. 2 chap.7 part 4 describing the difference between Godou and Voban power levels.

This is not dragonball , the power level mentioned probably it's about the strength of the authority,experience,number of authority etc. voban [sturm und drang]which control wind,rain and lightning is stronger than godou [goat] because it's part of the verethragna 10 incarnation.Heck godou didn't used [boar] and [white stallion ] cannot be used again.if godou use the [sword] first to slice the [wolf] and can still used his [white stallion] i'm sure the result will different.Same as voban though if he use tactic (he only used frontal attack against godou),and go all-out without care of harming yuri.

From everything I've read in LN, Campiones can learn fighting abilities such as martial arts and magic through training, but they can only learn how to use their authorities (this seems to apply only to the authorities) through actual combat, it is a condition imposed by the powerful magic which creates the Campiones (explained by Pandora on vol11).

As to what is absorbed during the usurpation of authorities, always seemed to me that Campione acquires an ability that is related to the characteristics of the god he killed, however the Campione's authority resulted from the procedure is shaped to match the characteristics of the Campione. To me it seemed also that part of the essence of life from God was also transferred, increasing the magic power of the Campione.

That about authorities being shaped to the Campione i think it's not true. Somewhere in the novel was mentioned that not the authority, but the god's characteristics resemble a Campione, example is Godou who was taught by an old man that always think of victory, and he acquired authority from the god of victory Verethragna, Voban's firs authority was Apollo and his wolves which i think fits his personality very well, Doni defeated Nuadha, god with silver arm and a sword that cuts through all existence and so on. So i think that authorities aren't shaped to the Campione but their personality is ideal for the authorities.

This is not dragonball , the power level mentioned probably it's about the strength of the authority,experience,number of authority etc. voban [sturm und drang]which control wind,rain and lightning is stronger than godou [goat] because it's part of the verethragna 10 incarnation.Heck godou didn't used [boar] and [white stallion ] cannot be used again.if godou use the [sword] first to slice the [wolf] and can still used his [white stallion] i'm sure the result will different.Same as voban though if he use tactic (he only used frontal attack against godou),and go all-out without care of harming yuri.

I also do not think the difference in pure magic power between Campiones is not as great as the difference between Gods/Campiones and human mages. But I also do not believe that the differences in power between Campiones are just experience and variety of abilities. For me the difference between the various Campiones involves several factors such as experience, variety of powers, anticipated preparation for battle, and also amount of magical power, even the motivation and inspiration make a difference.

Edit: serbian_otaku: That's really something to think about. It is quite true that the first gods each Campione killed matched well with the personalities of the Campione. However, there are also cases that indicate that usurped power (when the god has many abilities and Campione present only some of these) and the way that power is presented to the Campione fits the characteristics and personalities of the Campione (for more compatible than the Campione and the god are, they are not necessarily equal), an example is how the [sword] appears to Godou in the form of golden spheres instead of flying blades.

Indeed !!! in the end godou will enter lion den,too bad the story didn't explain it further!!! by the way Yokohama Bay Bridge didn't survive against godou [boar] after all,it will be a long time until godou wish to not cause destruction come true.

I heard that news too, the man has five wife if I remember right, but he only doing it with the youngest wife. As expected, normal human just won't cut it to run a harem. Good think Godou become a Campione, because even his grandfather in the end can only settle with one wife.