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Neurok Stealthsuit Discussion

1 week ago

papahiggsAlhammarret's Archive and Mana Echoes are a bit pricey, but the former not so much that I won't rule it out. Lightning Greaves I want to include but I'm thinking about what to cut for it. I was thinking Neurok Stealthsuit, but I also considered that it might be better to cut something elsewhere in order to not only have a more efficient form of protection, but to also have more of it.

I'm also thinking about including Gitaxian Probe somewhere but I'd need to consider what I should cut for it or if it would be worth cutting anything at all for it. Even though I have a rule against cutting lands, I thought maybe that could be what I cut for it since it's essentially free, but I'm still thinking about it.

Finally about counterspells I do have them, but most are conditional due to most of them also drawing me a card. I was thinking about including more hard counters to increase my range of influence but I'm not sure if the cuts I would make would be worth it.

Deadeye Navigator can abuse most of my ETB's like the high cmc token makers. Getting four Myr Tokens for just 1{U} seems pretty solid. Or two cards with Mulldrifter

Fertilid was cut in my last deck change. Too slow, too much mana. Getting two lands for 7 or 1 for 5 mana is just not good. Even if it's a creature. And if I have nothing to do with ezuri than putting counters on fertilid something went wrong.

Fungal Sprouting looks good, but I don't think 4mana for most times 1-3 Saproling is that great. Also it is sorcery speed, that can be very slow. And not sure when to cast. First mainphase I will get less counters because ezuri hasn't put counters on something yet.
Second mainphase I will get more saprolings because Ezuri could put something before this card. But the amount he puts on a creature is lower. (I have this Problem with many cards in this deck to be honest)

Broodhatch Nantuko I wanted a second morph, so my playgroup always knows what's under the morph. And even getting only 2+ tokens out seems okay.

Glimmer of Genius is Instant speed, seeing up to 4 cards isn't bad. And if you don't scry away, the cards you get are good. And I may play an Aether Hub so it may be more useful. What draw spells would you play rather?

Fact or Fiction Instant speed, worst case getting only one card I really need, with the option to get up to 5 cards. (Since politcs is a thing in my group there is a high chance of getting 4 or even 5 cards). Same for here, what would you play rather? Needs to be instant!

Inkmoth Nexus would be solid, but Infect isn't really my strategy. Blighted Agent has the unblockable thing, that's why he is in. If I ever trade an Inkmoth, he will have a place in this deck.

Shrieking Drake at first I thought this card is weak. Than I realized that he can bounce himself (I assume that's what you wanted to say) :D getting experience for just {U} seems broken. I need this immediatly! And if bounce one of my high cmc token dudes to replay them? Even better.

All in all I need to build this deck from zero, and I need to be sure what tactic I'm playing. I need to get cards that I don't have right now. That takes time/money. And then I need time to brew. You can always suggest more, I try to answer fast. But it while take a while to get everything, but I'll Update as soon as I can!

4 months ago

I don't like Angelic Page, he has to to use his ability, where Exalted is immediate. He can pump a blocker, but not sure the +1/+1 is worth it.

I'd probably rather have a Neurok Stealthsuit (Shroud) over a single use Favor of the Overbeing (Vigilance/Flying). Even if you don't have the for attach, just pay equip. It's not bad, but Exalted/Shroud/Hex are more valuable in single removal scenarios, especially if your sorcery +'s them. Have to reply on the protection spells to save them.

Skarrg Goliath CMC7 Bloodrush at least is instant, Enlarge you'll have to be sure to have the CMC5 + a protection spell (or shroud/hex) before engaging that. Why does it have a monster kitten in the pic!

You should have lots of blockers (the exalted crew), Guardian of the Gateless is a flying blocker, but dont think you need this ability. Palace Guard is even worse with no flying, Fog instead it's the same thing pretty much. Since neither has Exalted anyway.

Pentarch Ward feels missing, it gives Pro-Color of your choice, the best part is it draws a card to replace itself (and you can still choose white). Never hurts you because of the draw, unless they remove the creature in response.

4 months ago

Your zombies will die. Your boss can bring back zombies. You have to protect your boss in case of multiple exiles. Alexi's Cloak effectively counters whatever was going to kill him then gives him shroud. Neurok Stealthsuit can do the same. Swiftfoot Boots etc.

7 months ago

Thanks all! :)

RazortoothMtg Ahh, thanks for the reminder on deranged assistant. I run him in my Lasav, but couldnt recall the name.

Font of Fertility is in there, as I said, Ive a pretty decent selection of both artifact and enchantment ramp effects going on. That is one of the reasons I was rather unsure of Burnished Hart, as I have 5 artifact ramp effects already included. But it is good, just feels too hampered by being colorless to be really efficient. Still, IDK on the Hart.

SteelSentry If I had some Sac outlets, I would probably run Veteran Explorer for sure, but my build so far has been almost exclusively self-sacrificing, and without a reliable way to get him dead, hes not quite worth it.

The ol Dreamscape artist... He just doesnt really hold up compared to other available ramp sources unfortunately. Sincehe requires a card in hand it is limited, and three additional mana as well kinda sucks. Plus he has to tap making him slow. He def fits the theme though, as he does discard and sac a land, which are both of little consequence when running muldrotha. A great suggestion, but I think just slightly to restrictive to be worth it.

enpc Thanks for pointing out Embodiment had a tap, I had just lumped it in with Diligent Farmhand and... now that I think of it, was there another? I was pretty sure there was, but now I cant recall. Hmmm... But yeah, Farmhand is better than the Elk for sure, thanks. Not just for curve, but because at worst its a cheaper chump blocker :P

Heart Warden is just so overcosted for the draw, and in a bad perm type. I could draw a card for free with an artifact cast, draw a card for 1 with an enchant, so paying 4 for a coveted creature cast slot just seems super inefficient.

Both far wanderings and primal growth have good synergy with Muldrotha, totally, but I was considering running a Primal Surge wincon with either Concordant Crossroads or Laboratory Maniac finishers. If the surge ends up getting dropped, they will probably both end up in there.

rob_shifflett I had the staff in my starting list, but 3 mana a turn to protect muldrotha was too costly, never mind having to use the artifact recast slot for it. When there is Neurok Stealthsuit, both Boots, Sylvan Safekeeper, and Siren Stormtamer at our disposal, the staff seems quite lusterless in comparison unfortunately.

Rusty_Shackleford I didnt link it, but I did mention in my OP that Sakura Elder was one of the "must have" rampers. Thanks though :)

Here is a pile of cards Im so far working with, if anyone is interested. Faaaaar from a deck, but in the works. Gravemind

8 months ago

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