The Circus co-host Alex Wagner began by saying Trump has chosen to “pick a fight with the families of 3,000 dead Puerto Ricans” instead of “putting his hands on the captain’s wheel,” something she thinks was a “shocking political strategy” since there wasn’t “any thinking behind this.”

Then Heilemann chimed in.

“He’s the first Puerto Rican truther,” Heilemann told Stephen Colbert. “The notion that these people didn’t die was not a conspiracy theory anyone was talking about. Donald Trump invented that conspiracy theory today. It’s like the Sandy Hook truthers are going, ‘Dude, people died.'”

He later added that Hurricane Florence is going to do “a huge amount of damage” that the president will call his lawyer to “get her to sign an N.D.A.”