PS: that Dogo is AWESOME! He totally tore Rob to bits, if you can't tell from the pics. LOL! His suit definitely suffered, talk about a hard biting dog. Maybe Brit can get some pics of the nice bruise on his arm . . .

"All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another." -Anatole France

I'm not sure of the breeding but I can tell you that there were no other blue pups in the litter, and neither of the adults were blue. Maybe Britney has more insight into the actual lines 'cause I have no clue . . .

"All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another." -Anatole France

SisMorphine wrote:I'm not sure of the breeding but I can tell you that there were no other blue pups in the litter, and neither of the adults were blue. Maybe Britney has more insight into the actual lines 'cause I have no clue . . .

I was talking to Greg...in reality, it's a genetic defect. It's a recessive trait that you don't often see. However, a breeding that produced quite a few "blue" mals was one between Ricardo (PH1, PSA3) x Winnie (PH1). Ricardo (v. Natuurzicht) was a malinois, and I traced his lines back as far as I could (I got to about the 1950's), but found nothing odd mixed in. Winnie was a Dutch Shepherd (brindle), however, I couldn't find anything about her lines when I looked - I was actually going to talk to Jerry about her lines (since Jerry owned Ricardo)

...Greg just showed me a site that has pedigrees on there (so cool)...so I looked up Winnie...most her lines (at least her father's side - they have no info on the mom) are all "mixed malinois," with 1 Tervuren in there...and Greg said this site is pretty accurate...

I was talking to Greg...in reality, it's a genetic defect. It's a recessive trait that you don't often see.

Blue is a recessive, dilute form of black so I'm sure that neither parent has to actually be blue in order to pass on the trait to their offspring. I'm just curious as to why they are popping up more and more and thought perhaps there was a bloodline connection somewhere.Which site did Greg send you to? I know about Pawsvillage but have never used any of the others.

I was talking to Greg...in reality, it's a genetic defect. It's a recessive trait that you don't often see.

Blue is a recessive, dilute form of black so I'm sure that neither parent has to actually be blue in order to pass on the trait to their offspring. I'm just curious as to why they are popping up more and more and thought perhaps there was a bloodline connection somewhere.Which site did Greg send you to? I know about Pawsvillage but have never used any of the others.

Interestingly, enough, for the black gene to come in, there needs to be groenendael mixed in.