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I lost my brother

Sorry that I've been short with everyone lately, my brother died a few weeks ago and I've been in a bad mood.

He was a Red Pill guy the hard way. He was married briefly years ago and his wife was nuts because she was sexually abused by her older brother starting when she was around 12. He didn't know this until it was too late. She was an expert emotional abuser.

It really messed him up, and when his next girlfriend wanted marriage, he resisted, so she dumped him and attacked him a lot for it. he tried to tell her he just needed more time, but she was a bitch about it.

He never dated much after that, and so he basically drank himself to death.

I really hate rednecks who sexually abuse their sisters and little girls in general, but we all also need to watch how you handle having been messed up by abusive females. Drinking too much only hurts you and your true loved ones.

Besides this forum, getting a male counselor might be a good idea for some of us.

I had one years ago that helped me out a lot and helped me transition to Red Pill confidence and knowing my self worth and knowing I deserve better because some of the girls in my youth were screwed up in the head the same way.

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A mgtow content provider who talked a lot about stuff like that in a way that really addresses the problem was Spetsnaz. But I've noticed his youtube channel is gone. I hope he's not gone forever, because he was a great resource regarding the psychological aspects of the mistreatment of men.

I'm very sorry for your loss. And it's criminal what was done to him. In retrospect, if I'd stayed with my ex-wife, the emotional abuse would have literally caused me to have a heart attack and die. I'd probably have dropped dead by now if I'd been successful in getting her to come back. Her leaving was the best thing for me, because I was able to focus on making myself healthy again. And I succeeded. At middle age, I am pain free, medication free, and have a healthy BMI. I feel better than I did at 20 to be frank.

Your brother did the opposite. I try to reach out to guys in the real world who I see having a hard time like that.

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Originally Posted by William Noy

A mgtow content provider who talked a lot about stuff like that in a way that really addresses the problem was Spetsnaz. But I've noticed his youtube channel is gone. I hope he's not gone forever, because he was a great resource regarding the psychological aspects of the mistreatment of men.

I'm very sorry for your loss. And it's criminal what was done to him. In retrospect, if I'd stayed with my ex-wife, the emotional abuse would have literally caused me to have a heart attack and die. I'd probably have dropped dead by now if I'd been successful in getting her to come back. Her leaving was the best thing for me, because I was able to focus on making myself healthy again. And I succeeded. At middle age, I am pain free, medication free, and have a healthy BMI. I feel better than I did at 20 to be frank.

Your brother did the opposite. I try to reach out to guys in the real world who I see having a hard time like that.

Gargamel has been downloading and archiving a number of RedPill content providers, including Spetsnaz. Here is a link to several of his archived videos.

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I am sorry for your loss, MGTOW brother.

I have yet to lose an immediate family member - so really I can only try to empathize. My parents are not long for this world, and I think about their passing (and how I will "deal") on a regular basis.

The thing is, your brother was Red Pilled. Nothing could have really changed that... once we fall out of the Matrix, we're left to figure out where to go from there. His way involved drinking - as does my way, now. I know I should probably quit but the brain says "just a little while longer". I went to see "counselors" - my last one was female. She told me I was narcissistic and that relationship wise, I "had nothing to offer". (I have not seen one since, for 2+ years now...)

You see, being a typically entitled female, she confused having "nothing to offer" with"offering nothing". According to her, ALL MEN must offer EVERYTHING they can!

MGTOW is "offering nothing" to those who deserve no offering.

Sober or drunk, I will die having provided - the best I can - for my kids.

Aside from my MGTOW brethren, women - and society in general - can go fuck themselves. I love them as much as they love me.

Do stick close to us while you grieve and adjust.
We are your brothers, too.

- Feminism is Cancer.
- Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
- NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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Sorry as well. This year already started well (being sarcastic). My nephew was involved in a frontal car collision last wednesday. 1 dead . . . he and his two friends are badly injured. Yesterday he underwent surgery. My sister is in a world of psychocological pain. I guess she was under sedatives last time I was talking to her because she sounded so strange on the phone. My mom broke down in the hospital it was too much for her.

It's a miracle that they aren't all dead judging from the photo of his car wreck. The car was desintegrated. Terrible, but it happened and can't be undone.

Life is the hardest teacher of all . . . it gives you the test first and then it gives you the lesson.

There's not very much I can say to ease your pain and your grief a part from one thing. We are all indoctrinated by social norms to feel pain and grief when a beloved person dies but I understood one thing when I lost my dad to cancer. I felt relief that he wasn't forced to suffer anymore. I felt the loss but at the same time I was glad that it was over for him especially his suffering was bad to witness. It was over . . . his suffering was over. I accepted at that time that death was the most merciful thing that could happen to him. We all have to die one day and the only thing that matters to me is the how I gonna die. I hope I won't be suffering when the time comes and a quick and easy death will be granted to me.
I wish you all the best and maybe it can help you to reflect on your perception of your brothers death.

My condolences to you and your family

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Sorry to hear that Tangent.

Lost my parents, but they had lived their lives and didn't check out early. Still stinks, but not near as bad I would think.

While the women no doubt pushed him over the edge, there's some who don't need no excuses to drink themselves to death. Would your brother have ended up there anyway? I bet most of us have known people who knew they were killing themselves, but wouldn't quit. Happened to an old friends brother a few years ago, and a coworker before that. Now I'm OK with drinking, but if it were newly invented they'd classify it with heroin. There's people who just cant say no. A lot a old bachelors were juicers when I was a kid too.

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Sorry to hear this. I feel for you, and your brother.
Been down that road when the bottle is the master of all things. It IS miserable. Have watched it too, and it's no fun.
Need to talk/vent, we are here.
God bless.....

As soon as she says "I do", she don't
MOLON LABE......."Come take them"

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Sorry for your loss, brother.

It's tough out there for men today, and it seems to me that a lot of men are having trouble coping. For me, all the adversity I faced just made me ferocious, and hungry for success. All the things I accomplished, I did partially so I could rub it in the faces of everyone who ever doubted me, rejected me, or made me feel miniscule. And it worked, because now all those people are miserable, while I'm killing it and life just keeps getting better every day. But I realize a lot of guys don't feel the same. It's like they are just giving up.

I wish I knew some way to help all these guys. The guys who are drinking themselves to death, getting addicted to drugs, or just wasting away playing video games while they hide from reality. Life is tough, it's really tough, and you have to fight hard to win. You have to fight like your fucking life depends on it, because it does, every single day. I know if I could do it, probably most men can. We have something great inside of us...some deep, primal drive. We have fought wars, we killed sabre-tooth tigers and hunted mastodons, we built skyscrapers and great civilizations. There is nothing we men cannot do. NOTHING.

But the catch is, we have to have a reason for doing it. We have to have a reason. And if you can't find one, all you can ever see is hopelessness and despair. Our reasons were typically to protect and provide for our women, our family, our society, and we gave everything for that...but we don't have any of that now. It's all been taken from us, by the very people we sacrificed ourselves for. What the fuck is the point of it all, anyway?

I know that I'm terribly flawed, but I try to lead by example. Flawed as I am, I am happy, successful, and incredibly satisfied with my life. I try to post on these forums, share my experiences, and hope that maybe I can even inspire some other men out there who are struggling to do the same things for themselves. It's really hard though. I struggle every day, but I enjoy the fight. Not just enjoy...I LOVE it. But a lot of these guys have just been so fucking thoroughly beaten down, they don't have any fight in them, they just want to quit. I don't really know what else I can do to help.

To any men, if you are reading this and feeling lost or hopeless, all I can say is live for yourselves. Do not give up, and do not sacrifice yourself for anyone. Know that you are worth infinitely more than the bullshit hand you got dealt. Refuse to accept anything less than what is rightfully yours. You may not know what you are capable of, but I do. Now go out there and prove it. Not to me, but to yourself. Take your rightful place in this world, and let them see nothing but our strength and determination. Make this world your bitch, and bend it to your will. That is what we men are born to do.

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Originally Posted by Xanthine

Sorry for your loss, brother.

It's tough out there for men today, and it seems to me that a lot of men are having trouble coping. For me, all the adversity I faced just made me ferocious, and hungry for success. All the things I accomplished, I did partially so I could rub it in the faces of everyone who ever doubted me, rejected me, or made me feel miniscule. And it worked, because now all those people are miserable, while I'm killing it and life just keeps getting better every day. But I realize a lot of guys don't feel the same. It's like they are just giving up.

I wish I knew some way to help all these guys. The guys who are drinking themselves to death, getting addicted to drugs, or just wasting away playing video games while they hide from reality. Life is tough, it's really tough, and you have to fight hard to win. You have to fight like your fucking life depends on it, because it does, every single day. I know if I could do it, probably most men can. We have something great inside of us...some deep, primal drive. We have fought wars, we killed sabre-tooth tigers and hunted mastodons, we built skyscrapers and great civilizations. There is nothing we men cannot do. NOTHING.

But the catch is, we have to have a reason for doing it. We have to have a reason. And if you can't find one, all you can ever see is hopelessness and despair. Our reasons were typically to protect and provide for our women, our family, our society, and we gave everything for that...but we don't have any of that now. It's all been taken from us, by the very people we sacrificed ourselves for. What the fuck is the point of it all, anyway?

I know that I'm terribly flawed, but I try to lead by example. Flawed as I am, I am happy, successful, and incredibly satisfied with my life. I try to post on these forums, share my experiences, and hope that maybe I can even inspire some other men out there who are struggling to do the same things for themselves. It's really hard though. I struggle every day, but I enjoy the fight. Not just enjoy...I LOVE it. But a lot of these guys have just been so fucking thoroughly beaten down, they don't have any fight in them, they just want to quit. I don't really know what else I can do to help.

To any men, if you are reading this and feeling lost or hopeless, all I can say is live for yourselves. Do not give up, and do not sacrifice yourself for anyone. Know that you are worth infinitely more than the bullshit hand you got dealt. Refuse to accept anything less than what is rightfully yours. You may not know what you are capable of, but I do. Now go out there and prove it. Not to me, but to yourself. Take your rightful place in this world, and let them see nothing but our strength and determination. Make this world your bitch, and bend it to your will. That is what we men are born to do.

Precisely why alcohol is legal drug and the other drugs are not ... Alcohol kills the fight in you like no other .

A junkie is always running , scheming while limping on his last leg , looking for something to steal ... while alcoholic just sits there idle .

Perfect slave laborers at work after the weekend of drinking literally physically afraid of their bosses while if someone smoked meth they dont give a shit do nothing at all and still look like they moved mountains .

The most lethal drug times over is legal ... and that is why . It kills the fight in you before it kills your will to live .

You cant keep a player down!
Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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My condolences, Tangent. My brother and I are currently living together and every year he swears this will be his last Christmas. One of these days it will happen, but I wonder if I'll be around for it. He's 70, I'm 64. I took care of myself over the years. He didn't. I've never had a close relationship with him. His only close relationship is with his daughter. That's just the way he is. When he's gone, I'll be the last of that generation in this family. I'm not sure how I'll feel about it, but aound here I have a better chance of buying the farm than he does. I'm way more active and drive alot...hence...one of these days(no one out here drives worth a shit).

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Some people say that you will forget in time but that is not true.

You can't forget family and friends that impacted you in life. This is why while we carry forward as the living we should look back to those that can not do so anymore. It is not about us as we will heal as it is about them that can no longer do so.