Oxford: Parents of Islamic State suspect (“Jihadi Jack”) remanded in custody for terrorism

If the parents of “Jihadi Jack” turn out to be found guilty after due process, talk about foul parenting! — and an alarming example of the “diversity” of Jihadi infiltration in the West. Let’s be fair in using that all-important word “diversity”: the middle class, white parents of Jack Letts, dubbed “Jihadi Jack,” were remanded in custody following a charge of Islamic terrorism offences.

This family (again, if they are found guilty) will be under the microscope of examining why they fell under the grip of a doctrine obsessed with murder and death after converting to Islam. It’s another case that demonstrates the drivel about poverty and racism leading to radicalization. Wakeup call: not every jihadist is poor and suffers due to racism. It’s a Western construct that is manipulated; also, Jihadists kill their own in spades.

Also, take a look at the Islamic states, the wealthy despots and Islamic clerics that sanction and fuel the doctrine of jihad against the West and Israel. That deadly doctrine has now found a home and settlement on our soil, with a special thanks to those who make it easy for them to do so through immigration and refugee policy and through manipulated diversity programs.

Prediction: during the legal trial of this pair, we will once again have our ears assaulted with a propagandist victimology narrative, but from the other side of the fence: how they hated Islamophobia against Muslims prior to their conversion, and how they became “warriors of justice” in the name of their newfound faith. It will be interesting to discover what mosque they attend and what the imam preached.

Mr Letts, 55, and Ms Lane, 54, spoke only to confirm their names and address.

Image caption John Letts was remanded in custody, along with his wife, to appear at the Old Bailey on 23 June.

They are both charged with three counts of arranging the availability of property or money to another person knowing or having reasonable cause to suspect it could be used for the purpose of terrorism….

I just had a thought. If, after conversion to Islam, a person denounces his/her status as a citizen of their birth country, couldn’t they be deported? I mean, if they get to court and say I am Muslim first British second, wouldn’t it make sense to have a Law that allows for deportation? Isn’t there some classification of expat that is on the books already? Couldn’t the Court use this to remove citizenship? Just wondering.

Mortimer, Islam/Muslim is not a race to WE THE PEOPLE but it is an ideology to MUSLIMS that link them to one Ummah. I know you know this. THEY consider themselves to be a Sect of people separate from all others. So deport them on the grounds of treason to their country of origin and back to a country that supports that Ummah.

“So deport them on the grounds of treason to their country of origin and back to a country that supports that Ummah.”

You can’t “deport” native citizens, period. Arguing for it is just a pointless waste of time and energy, not to mention giving a wedge for muslim apologists to argue a case for “islamophobia” (“these people hate muslims so much that they’re blind to the laws”). You can, however, judge them for treason.

“In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that tends toward insurrection against the established order.” (UK).

I’ve never heard of this charge being laid against anyone in our digital age, but hey, who knows, perhaps the money could point this way. ‘Follow the money’.
All muslims, in my humble opinion, should be charged with seditious intent, at the very least. And then booted out.

Helps to explain, jihad3tracker, why, and as I mentioned before here at JW, the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has for a long time now been referred to by many as the 9th Circus Court of Appeals. It is THE most liberal of all the Circuit Courts but the real problem is what lies higher——the Supreme Court.

It is now composed of three women (Sotormayor, Kagan and Ginsburg) who are uber-liberals, a silly old liberal man (Breyer), a pathetic wishy-washy justice (Kennedy), a somewhat conservative justice who ultimately is a clear disappointment many times (Roberts), and only two true conservatives (Thomas and Alito). Doesn’t look good. The Left (and here I will note that more women than men are to be found on the Left and the Left is a collective fool so what does this say about the wisdom of women, speaking in the aggregate, as opposed to the wisdom of men, speaking in the aggregate?) is an enemy of the Constitution and in particular the First, Second, Ninth and Tenth Amendments?

Well, as I said, doesn’t look good. Between the spiritual fascism which is Islam and the foolhardiness and latent totalitarianism that is so characteristic of Leftism, it adds up to a double whammy against what made America great above all things———-liberty. Time for a beer and my best to you and yours, jihad3tracker. Take care, pal.

Thank you for concise background on the 9th Circuit and our Left-leaning Supreme Court. A path to the full 89 page decision can be found without too much difficulty; I read it but skipped over annotative citations.

This is another instance involving the Bill of Rights when rigorous reasoning about the words of our founding fathers placing competence requirements upon judges which few of them can meet.

For those of us who read English common law and its royal antecedents, the document’s text cites some of the Crown’s circumscriptive weaponry decrees for earls, barons, and esquires, dating to 1299 !

As for the parents of the brutal and murderous jihadist thug of ISIS. It does being up the question ,at least to a certain extent, what kind of values , or set of values, did they raise their son with since he turn out to be such a horrible malicious jihadist hooligan. There is the saying that “The fruits doesn’t fall that far from the tree”

There are creeps who reject all their parents decent values; there are even some few who are brought up with evil ‘values’ who come to find a moral compass.

But you are quite right–in the vast majority of cases, the fruit *doesn’t* fall far from the tree. How many cases have we seen where the family members of Jihadists have disturbing ties to Jihad themselves?

And yet, the authorities and media almost always assume that mommy and daddy are terribly upset that sonny has turned to Jihad–and not just that he has gotten caught.

It should be done! No kid or young adult is wise enough to be able to completely hide undesirable behavior from a parent who is attentive!!! Oregon has a law, that if an under age child commits a misdemeanor the parents are responsible for paying for damages.

From what one can gather from all the various English newspaper reports this are decent normal British parents who are not Muslim but whose son went off the rails. No-one has said why but its a fair bet that he may have taken drugs, which seems to be a common background for most young people who lose their way and commit offences.
These parents sent money because they were concerned for their son, there are no reports that they were in any sympathetic to Isis.
If they had been Pakistani heritage and Muslim they would not have been remanded in custody but being English/Canadian they were fair game for the authorities, no cries of racism or demos by the ethnics to support them and beat the Police and Courts with the stick of “discrimination”.

Yes, think people are jumping the gun here. The boy suffered from severe OCD. Which may have led him down the path of ICD – Islamic Compulsive Disorder.

The parents seem to have been naive and well-meaning. He would tell them he had no food, and couldn’t see, because he couldn’t afford to buy glasses. He certainly wasn’t telling them he needed money to buy bombs or commit terrorist acts (if that was what he wanted the money for). Hard for a parent not to try to help their child, however badly wrong they have gone, if they think they are vulnerable (through hunger, mental illness, or being unable to see properly), when they know they are in mortal danger.

It’s absolutely true that the parents would not be in court in the UK if they were of a different heritage. That would be far too much of a political hot potato. But being white and British, the authorities know that no one will support them. So they are easy game.

Then if that is the case, this is a travesty, racist and a deliberate SLAM to any white parent who’s child has been possessed by Islam. It is THEY who should have a Law suit against the British Government for allowing Islam into the country. How can a kid be surrounded by a people who are sickly violent and NOT be affected by it? That old saying by HILLARY who said “it takes a village to raise kids”? Bull puckie ! When children see their own Government make every effort to appease a group of maniacal terrorists how can parenting efforts prevent this? Teenagers are the most passionate group of people and most often cannot see the opposite side of an issue. In their vehemence they are fragile. Very sad.

Graven image said: I have mild OCD myself. The idea that having OCD automatically leads to converting to Islam and waging violent Jihad for the Islamic State is just nonsensical.

Fair point, and perhaps if I hadn’t joked about it I’d have made myself clearer. I didn’t really mean to suggest that this was the only thing that caused the guy to turn jihadi. Clearly all the people who have OCD and don’t go down this path prove there is no causal link. I was merely saying that severe OCD could have been a factor in whatever else made him choose this path.

Only the boy converted:he has severe obsessive compulsive disorder and was attracted to the repetitive rituals of islam.These were created by mohammed because he,himself, suffered from severe panic attacks.The parents are NOT moslem and they naively,but innocently,sent money to their son to help him and only him.British ‘justice’ is coming down hard on them exactly because they are white and non-moslem.

It’s not at all vague.If you followed the story it’s evident that the parents are not moslems nor are they sympathetic to islam or IS.They sent money to help their son and fell foul the law on terrorism;be honest,in the same circumstances you or I would have done the same.

Yes, it’s clear from the coverage (BBC and other) that the parents were not jihadi converts at all, and sent less than £2000 to their son in three batches, believing it to be for food and glasses. They didn’t knowingly fund terrorism. In fact I couldn’t find any indication from the media about what the money was used for in the end, so it may have gone on food and glasses. Or not, but the parents intention was clearly not to cause harm, but to help their son.

And yes, if they parents hadn’t been white, British, non muslim, there is no way they would be facing charges, they are scapegoats to make it look like the authorities are doing something. But to the best of my knowledge the authorities haven’t even bothered investigating the muslim families of muslim jihadis, because that would be considered…

According to the Daily Mail this is what happened [apparently, all the muslims around there are wonderful – whitewash methinks]. The mosque he attended is pictured below – Madina Masjid and Muslim Welfare House (Cowley, Oxford, Oxford). According to his friends, the mosque played no part in his radicalization [these must be his muslim friends].

“He went to start learning Arabic and attended the Madina Masjid, a mosque near his home in Oxford, changing his name to Ibrahim – the Arabic version of his original middle name, Abraham.

He did talk passionately about ISIS, but I always assumed he meant he opposed them, not that he would join them.

School friend
Several of his friends have claimed that the 20-year-old was radicalised in private prayer meetings and the mosque was not responsible for the hardening of his views.

One said: ‘His conversion to Islam was slow but happened quickly when it did.

‘There is a massive Muslim influence around here, which is great actually, I believe a lot of the youth are more tolerant and open minded.

‘He converted and was slowly groomed online by Islamic extremists. He went to a local mosque and when other people there knew what he was planning they tried to stop him, telling him it was against God and told his parents but he did not listen and went anyway.

‘He has contacted his parents and others since but there are no signs of him coming back any time soon.’

Upon leaving for Syria, Letts lied to his parents and told them he was moving to Kuwait. Unknown to his family, he had already made contact with a ISIS recruiter over social media.”

Also, in connection with this mosque [although the muslims in the area claim it has nothing to do with lslam – of course not, who would ever guess that]. This case isn’t heard so much as the Rotherham one in northern england [but spanned 16 years as well]. Anyway, same mosque as ‘Jihad Jack’ – possibly a coincidence, but personally, l don’t believe in coincidences. This info came out last year – notice how ‘muslim’ and ‘lslam’ is carefully swept under the carpet.

“Oxfordshire grooming victims may have totalled 373 children

“Sajjad Khan, a local worshiper at Madina Masjid in the Cowley Road area where some of the offenders were from said: “The community is ashamed of these guys. But in reality we have nothing to be ashamed about because their animalistic behaviour is not representative of the Pakistani or Muslim community in Oxford or anywhere else in the country.”

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