2 things that could have bumped the Teddy Roosevelt argument: 1: He gave a 45 minute speech AFTER BEING SHOT! He didn't even have the bullet removed later. 2: Said of him after his "death": "Death had to take him sleeping, for if he had been awake, there would have been a fight."

He was the commander-in-chief of the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War and later became the First President by Unanimous Decision. He even presided over the convention that drafted the Constitution.

Without George there would be NO Lincoln or FDR. Though I'm surprised Kyle didn't bring up the fact that FDR served Four, yes, FOUR, terms, which caused the Constitution to be amended to only allow the Two that there is today.

Uh oh. Let's see here. Chris sided against Batman and won and sided against Teddy Roosevelt and won. Also sided against Dr. Who. Now all he has to do is side against Tesla (and win) to become the most hated person on the internet.

He was the commander-in-chief of the Continental Army during the American Revolutionary War and later became the First President by Unanimous Decision. He even presided over the convention that drafted the Constitution.

Without George there would be NO Lincoln or FDR.

that is true and after him John Adams and Jefferson etc...

but I gotta say FDR,Truman,Eisenhower,JFK and JBJ was a good string of great modern presidents that lead us after WWII and early years of Vietnam War.

FDR is automatically FTL because of Japanese interment camps and court packing threats. Truman was a little bitch who instead of backing the Vietnamese backed the French(First rule of modern warfare, NEVER BACK THE FRENCH) which led pretty directly to the Vietnam war. Eisenhower agreed with FDR to work with the Russians instead of letting Patton steamroll them out of Europe which led to the cold war. JFK was utterly bankrupt as a human being and cheated on his wife every chance he got and was killed before anything but the Cuban Missle Crisis could occur. Don't even get me started on LBJ.

In any case, the answer is obviously Washington, original American Badass.

Against Abe: he may have freed the slaves, but he also revoked the protections of the Constitution in the north and allowed military tribunals to hang American citizens on hearsay. (Which was found unConstitutional after his death)

When it comes to working the Mojo? JFK worked his mojo into Marilyn Monroe. 'Nuff Said

But this isn't about Mojo this is about badassery it seems. I would have to go with Teddy. Abe was awesome and everything but Teddy was quite the badass.But what about Jackson; he was a bit of a d-bag (so was Teddy, just ask the Indians; that's right you can't because you probably don't know any) but he was also a serious badass.

Lincoln's the obvious shoe in because, you know, Lincoln. JFK's up there for the space program, if nothing else. Washington, 'cause, you know, Washington.

But Teddi? I mean, obviously the man was a total badass, but this wasn't "most badass president", this was "best president". How about the other Roosevelt, who brought us out of the Great Depression and led us through World War II? The only President in our history to serve more than two terms, and he served FOUR, after which Congress said, "We can't handle so much awesome," and legislated that no one would ever be able to replicate his feat.

The values of Democrats and Republicans switched at FDR (FDR ushering in the modern Democrat party, and the Republicans taking something approximating their current stance to oppose him).

Thus, if they were to identify with a modern party, they would both be Democrats.

Although, actually, wasn't Teddi a Bull Moose? I seem to remember him getting kicked out of his party, and he said, "I'm the forerunner of the BULL MOOSE PARTY! WHO'S WITH ME!" And the people were with him.

*Wikipedia* Oh, it was only nicknamed the Bull Moose Party. Official name of the party?

Judge fails for taking idiotic logical fallacies to be worth points. Bad judge! *whacks with newspaper* You don't do that anymore! On topic, Lincoln was a good president, and Teddy was easily one of the most badass presidents, but I'm just gonna leave this one here:

James. K. Polk.

In one term, accomplished all of his goals, ended a war, seized Oregon from Britain and the Southwest from Mexico, started naval academies and a separate treasury, was an outstanding orator, and came up from out of nowhere to be the strongest candidate, even against the incumbent. Boom.

Just going to point this out, not because it's important to the debate, but because it's mildly interesting. The Canadians don't have Queen Elizabeth II of England on their currency, they have Queen Elizabeth of Canada. Physically the same person, but leagally and politically two different people.

In one term, accomplished all of his goals, ended a war, seized Oregon from Britain and the Southwest from Mexico, started naval academies and a separate treasury, was an outstanding orator, and came up from out of nowhere to be the strongest candidate, even against the incumbent. Boom.

Well, he did end a war, but only after starting it. Other than that, yeah, he did those things.

But best President ever? James Madison.

He started the war that brought together America from a collection of like 15 or 16 states, and made them a nation in more than name, his major rival political party, the Federalists, managed to self-destruct itself, which propelled the US into the Area of Good Feelings, and he brought backwoodsmen like Andrew Jackson and officers like Winfield Scott from nobodies and next to nobodies to people known all across America as Heroes. Plus his chosen successor, James Monroe, and his Secretary of State, John Quincy Adams, created the Monroe Doctrine.

In one term, accomplished all of his goals, ended a war, seized Oregon from Britain and the Southwest from Mexico, started naval academies and a separate treasury, was an outstanding orator, and came up from out of nowhere to be the strongest candidate, even against the incumbent. Boom.

Well, he did end a war, but only after starting it. Other than that, yeah, he did those things.

Well, yeah. You don't take the entire American Southwest from Mexico without a fight. But really, a three year war, over and done with a clear victory and cessions of land to the victor, ending on reasonably diplomatic ground, opening up the road for a second transfer of land a few years later? Haven't seen that quite some time.