OK Thor my friend you cant say the other cd is enough on this one, allot of great music was left off, I love this.

oh I said that

Im not reading through all this post so if you said that already , Sorry.

A Fighting Chance to Live, wow what a cue. Genesis is Destroyed is next , yes yes!!

Those two, plus Sunset on Genesis are my three favorites, the cues I've wanted since the premiere. So awesome to have them. PIPE ORGAN on Genesis is Destroyed. I was right! Thought I imagined it watching the movie. lol

Those two, plus Sunset on Genesis are my three favorites, the cues I've wanted since the premiere. So awesome to have them. PIPE ORGAN on Genesis is Destroyed. I was right! Thought I imagined it watching the movie. lol

Agreed , this whole score beats the heck out of anything else Horner has done, Well Done!!

ok into the lounge music now, Wow what a ride.

does anyone else love that little whispy string part at the beginning of both the end titles of Wrath of Khan and Search for Spock?

I just ordered ST III at Screen Archives and ST The Deluxe Edition at Varese's site. Now I play the waiting game.

Regarding further STAR TREK re-issues, ST-V and TOS are the only things that could tempt me now. And with so much money going out the door and so much music on disc now, I can afford to wait a while before they come along.

If you have the opportunity, listen to both WRATH OF KHAN and SEARCH FOR SPOCK as a continuous program. I can't describe how satisfying the experience is. As a single 2 1/2 hour program it's brilliant: the way the Vulcan theme slowly develops into the grand climax of the whole thing and even the way Khan's motif and the Klingon theme feel like organic developments of one-another. Count me as one who casually dismissed SEARCH FOR SPOCK as a "less-than" recycling of musical ideas. I was wrong. There's real genius at work here and the complete presentation of these scores really showcases it. If I have something negative to say it's only that Horner wasn't allowed/interested in completing the musical journey for VOYAGE HOME. Stunning.

This is another thrilling release and makes me thankful, yet again, that I was so tired of these scores (ST 2 & 3) from playing the LPs to death that I never bothered to pick them up on CD. So very worth the wait. Like rediscovering old friends only to find they were better than you remembered.

It's here!! I'm listening to "Stealing the Enterprise" as I type and I never thought we'd get the film version of the cue, sans opening violins. Well done, gang!

A few comments (NOT complaints) about the liner notes:

-page 9: "...influence of Starfleet" is misspelled as "... infleunce of Starfleet."

-page 6: "Ken Ralston, who had shot spacecraft footage for the Star Wars trilogy, served as visual effects supervisor."

He was also ILM's co-supervisor of visual effects on Star Trek II. The liner notes imply that ILM's A-team was busy on Temple of Doom so they just got some spaceship guy from Star Wars, when Ken Ralston was in fact an integral part of the Trek II team.

One question: were Leonard Nimoy or Harve Bennett approached for interviews or soundbites for the liner notes? I only ask because, while Robert Wise and Nick Meyer have spoken about the scores for their respective films, I don't recall anything from Nimoy (or Shatner).

Second question: I noticed Ralph Winter was thanked, along with the film's DP, editor, and UPM. Did these guys contribute anything specific to this release? Winter I understand but the other three guys have all been dead for years.

I was wrong. There's real genius at work here and the complete presentation of these scores really showcases it.

Yes - I always thought "Trek 3" excelled at showing Horner's increasing maturity as a composer around that time; not that "Trek 2" was less than excellent, but whenever I hear those dismiss "Trek 3" as lazy or rehash, I tend to disagree because there's some mature ideas there; whether clever and subtle use of established motifs in new ways, or the rhythmic and harmonic excitement of "Stealing The Enterprise".

I thought this quote by Horner from an old Cinemascore interview in 1985 really sums it up well:

* Horner feels that his score for STAR TREK III is superior to his work on the previous Trek movie. “That was 2 years ago for me. I was twenty seven and a half when I wrote STAR TREK II and now I’m thirty. So a lot of musical time has gone by for me and I just think that the score for STAR TREK III is just so much vastly better than STAR TREK II. It’s a much more interesting score and, for me, a much more beautiful and emotional score than STAR TREK II.” *

That interview, for those who haven't seen it, can be found in a form at:

Horner feels that his score for STAR TREK III is superior to his work on the previous Trek movie. “That was 2 years ago for me. I was twenty seven and a half when I wrote STAR TREK II and now I’m thirty. So a lot of musical time has gone by for me and I just think that the score for STAR TREK III is just so much vastly better than STAR TREK II. It’s a much more interesting score and, for me, a much more beautiful and emotional score than STAR TREK II.”

Artists own favorite works are usually not the masses favorite works of said artist. I happen to completely disagree with his assessment of the two scores. WOK is a much richer creation. But I love SFS too. Just saying my preference goes the other way.

Agreed! I just finished listening to mine, and the sound quality is stunning. I actual teared up a bit! Mike Matessino has really done a phenominal job with the mix. Its rich, and crystal clear. The bass punches in the right places, and the bright accents are, well, bright... and crisp. This score sounds like it was recorded yesterday.

The missing material is also equally amazing. Sunset on Genesis is beautiful, and it was great to finally get the Grissom intro on disc. Never can get enough of the Courage theme.

As I suspected, the score definitely gets quite a bit of benefit from the breathing room afforded by the expansion. Many of the "interstitial" moments are actually quite striking. The original album, concentrating on notable setpieces, tended to feature the music that was more reminiscent of that for Wrath of Khan. The Klingon theme has more of a chance to stake out its own identity with more variations, and the new variations on the Spock and Vulcan material is all priceless.

To everyone at Film Score Monthly, gentlemen, your work today has been outstanding and I intend to recommend you all for promotion… in whatever fleet we end up serving

I'm really glad they included the album version with this release. I find that I prefer the album version of "Main Title", "Stealing The Enterprise" and "Returning To Vulcan". So looks like I will be doing some mixing and matching with my playlist.

I'm the opposite...I prefer the film versions of those cues, especially for "Stealing The Enterprise". I always hated hearing those string overlays at the beginning of "Stealing The Enterprise", on the original album.