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Re: General Football Debates!

Originally Posted by ReLax -

He said he isn't going down for his tactic/style of play and he manly spoke of him if he was in Barcelona, you do know there is extended version of his interview around the net? And he said it as a mind game, Mou says all kinds of things about Barcelona, but yet says Barcelona/Madrid are the best in the world. It's all mind games from both sides.

well before that he did say about mou itself ain't going down in history

Originally Posted by ReLax -

It was travelling around a lot in 2006-2008. The thing with these accusations, fans make them, just like Barcelona, my point I tried getting out. A lot of bitter fans who lost to Italians club or country wise will always bring that up, as it is in there history now. I'm Muslim also...I'm not here to offend you. Thats the French accusation for you, they will blame there defeat on that sole reason.

well most of it was made by Germans butthurt fans, well you know what we did to them in wesfalenstadion(now known as signal iduna park) in 2006

Originally Posted by ReLax -

It's true Barcelona tend to go to the refs a lot and mainly V Madrid for the sole reason that Madrid play dirty. Pepe foul was worse than the one Argentina defender did to Germany player in 90 WC final and he got a red without touching the guy, I don't know why there are complains about Pepe he clearly touched Alves, which many have already confirmed the only thing is Alves overreacted on the contact.

there is no contact.... and also alves eye is on the ball i still don't know how come he knew that pepe is coming for him and make 360 spin, nonetheless it was a dangerous assault but red card is not necessary but thanks to alves
exaggerated reaction the referee gived red for pepe while it supposed to be yellow at best

Originally Posted by ReLax -

I said the "world" not me, which is true, if you go to comment sections and see some fan articles they all vent there angry at either Chelsea buying titles, Chelsea playing negatively, them getting lucky, etc. It comes from United/Liverpool/Arsenal/Barcelona/Madrid/Bayern/etc supporters also, not just the ones that lost to them. TV channels have also accused Chelsea tactics (Especially Germans). I just don't like how they won, they won it, but not in a style I'd like clubs to win it in.

Yes, but theres was different. I mean literally waiting by your GK the entire team and waiting to get them on counter, is not defence, but parking the bus. What if both sides played like that it would kill football. it's unfair one said just keeps attacking while the other just sit back. In 60/70 they use to do that a bit more. Than they use to only give 2 points a win and 1 point a draw. In todays football they try to get teams to actually play reason why 3 points a win and 1 a draw.

its just butthurt bayern fans, just like chelsea fans when barca beat them at semifinal, they can't blame the referee so they blame their style, i can understand that they played defensively against Barcelona, and they have reason why they played like that against bayern, i mean they lost both their main defender, and they have to played against Bayern in their stadium, let alone the fact that bayern have better squad than Chelsea did, but its not like they keep playing like that, this very moment they try to copy barca style just you said earlier....

Originally Posted by ReLax -

People who don't know football...I've had people ask about Pele My point being glory hopers are everywhere, I've supported Barcelona for the longest I can remember this is why I'm certain of knowing my team. I was there when we were at the bottom, I'm here today when we are at the top, and will be still there at the bottom when our time is over.

well I've been with Madrid since Karembeu days, i witness the downfall of the 1st Galacticos era with Perez ruin everything by taking out Eto'o since he think Owen is better, its a good thing that mou don't listen to him i mean am pretty sure Perez said something like Galacticos chapter 2 when he regain his place as Madrid President, you can see this summer Mou only bring Modric and Essien, while Perez want Bale...

Originally Posted by ReLax -

At that quote I missed the refs is British, so clearly his statement is biased.

c'mon in the end of the day his judgement is nowhere near biased or something like that, that man got some point,
the referee don't take time to decide his call, he immediately wave a NO, idk maybe he try to act like Coliina ? LOL

Re: General Football Debates!

Originally Posted by ReLax -

He said he isn't going down for his tactic/style of play and he manly spoke of him if he was in Barcelona, you do know there is extended version of his interview around the net? And he said it as a mind game, Mou says all kinds of things about Barcelona, but yet says Barcelona/Madrid are the best in the world. It's all mind games from both sides.

well before that he did say about mou itself ain't going down in history

Originally Posted by ReLax -

It was travelling around a lot in 2006-2008. The thing with these accusations, fans make them, just like Barcelona, my point I tried getting out. A lot of bitter fans who lost to Italians club or country wise will always bring that up, as it is in there history now. I'm Muslim also...I'm not here to offend you. Thats the French accusation for you, they will blame there defeat on that sole reason.

well most of it was made by Germans butthurt fans, well you know what we did to them in wesfalenstadion(now known as signal iduna park) in 2006

Originally Posted by ReLax -

It's true Barcelona tend to go to the refs a lot and mainly V Madrid for the sole reason that Madrid play dirty. Pepe foul was worse than the one Argentina defender did to Germany player in 90 WC final and he got a red without touching the guy, I don't know why there are complains about Pepe he clearly touched Alves, which many have already confirmed the only thing is Alves overreacted on the contact.

there is no contact.... and also alves eye is on the ball i still don't know how come he knew that pepe is coming for him and make 360 spin, nonetheless it was a dangerous assault but red card is not necessary but thanks to alves
exaggerated reaction the referee gived red for pepe while it supposed to be yellow at best

Originally Posted by ReLax -

I said the "world" not me, which is true, if you go to comment sections and see some fan articles they all vent there angry at either Chelsea buying titles, Chelsea playing negatively, them getting lucky, etc. It comes from United/Liverpool/Arsenal/Barcelona/Madrid/Bayern/etc supporters also, not just the ones that lost to them. TV channels have also accused Chelsea tactics (Especially Germans). I just don't like how they won, they won it, but not in a style I'd like clubs to win it in.

Yes, but theres was different. I mean literally waiting by your GK the entire team and waiting to get them on counter, is not defence, but parking the bus. What if both sides played like that it would kill football. it's unfair one said just keeps attacking while the other just sit back. In 60/70 they use to do that a bit more. Than they use to only give 2 points a win and 1 point a draw. In todays football they try to get teams to actually play reason why 3 points a win and 1 a draw.

its just butthurt bayern fans, just like chelsea fans when barca beat them at semifinal, they can't blame the referee so they blame their style, i can understand that they played defensively against Barcelona, and they have reason why they played like that against bayern, i mean they lost both their main defender, and they have to played against Bayern in their stadium, let alone the fact that bayern have better squad than Chelsea did, but its not like they keep playing like that, this very moment they try to copy barca style just you said earlier....

Originally Posted by ReLax -

People who don't know football...I've had people ask about Pele My point being glory hopers are everywhere, I've supported Barcelona for the longest I can remember this is why I'm certain of knowing my team. I was there when we were at the bottom, I'm here today when we are at the top, and will be still there at the bottom when our time is over.

well I've been with Madrid since Karembeu days, i witness the downfall of the 1st Galacticos era with Perez ruin everything by taking out Eto'o since he think Owen is better, its a good thing that mou don't listen to him i mean am pretty sure Perez said something like Galacticos chapter 2 when he regain his place as Madrid President, you can see this summer Mou only bring Modric and Essien, while Perez want Bale...

Originally Posted by ReLax -

At that quote I missed the refs is British, so clearly his statement is biased.

c'mon in the end of the day his judgement is nowhere near biased or something like that, that man got some point,
the referee don't take time to decide his call, he immediately wave a NO, idk maybe he try to act like Coliina ? LOL

Re: General Football Debates!

Lol at the Ronaldo one. But seriously never in my football life, I'd see 2 players getting red card one after the other like that..UGGHH!

Anyway as for the Juve thingy. Well, heck, my uncle is a Juventus fan and he got pretty mad yesterday. Maybe the wrong judgment changed the game, maybe not. I really believe they still would have won.

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Anyway, seems like Messi and little Thiago Messi got a Golden Boot. Does this make him less favorite for the Ballon d'Or? That's what I've heard, at least.

Well, in 90 WC final it was worst, Maradona Argentina got two red calls off questionable calls and than a PK award too Germany. I know your a German fan :p

Juventus is an amazing side I enjoy watching them, but recent matching fixing scandals and how they won most games thru questionable calls is hitting them ATM. Either way I enjoy watching Buffon, and the chemistry between Pirlo/Vidal/Marchisio.

I heard Messi is the fav. to land the award, but Casillas/Iniesta can still steal it, as well as Ronaldo, as it is going to be between the two.