I am so excited about today’s post!! I’m talking to Lisa, the Director of Pilates By Lisa, an online Pilates site that I have been using (and loving!) for the last six months.

About a year ago, I started swapping my yoga practice for a Pilates practice and checking out different workout videos online. Unlike yoga, I started noticing almost immediate results with Pilates. I felt stronger, more flexible, and my low back pain pretty much disappeared. I also gained mobility in my spine that I’d never experienced before, due to my minor scoliosis. Note: I am totally not against yoga- it is an amazing thing for a lot of people! I just personally didn’t click with it like I clicked with Pilates- more on that here.

About six months in, I discovered Lisa’s site and I was hooked- her classes are seriously amazing!

Lisa and her boyfriend, Tim, are currently road tripping around North America (they are both from Australia) and filming Pilates videos as they go. Travel + Pilates? Yeah, I was pretty psyched about what Lisa was up to, so I reached out for an interview and got the chance to talk to her.

Check out our interview for more on Lisa’s story and the amazing benefits of Pilates!

Hi Lisa, it’s so great to be chatting with you! Tell us a bit about yourself.

My name is Lisa and I am the Director of Pilates By Lisa, an online Pilates studio where members have 24/7 access to over 200 full length, real time workouts anytime anywhere and from any device! Apart from work I have many varied passions and pastimes. Pilates is my first love, playing my piano is a close second. I love my miniature dachshund, Diggity, who is living with my mum and brother whilst I am abroad, which brings me to my next love: travel! Currently my partner Tim and I are travelling Canada, North and Central America, filming workouts from the most amazing locations for the online studio, it has been the experience of a lifetime!

How did you get into Pilates?

Whilst studying for my Degree in Journalism at Griffith University, I also completed my Certificate 3 & 4 in Fitness. Ever since a young age I had always been interested in fitness & health and one of my majors was exercise science. The story of Joseph Pilates had always intrigued me, therefore my next step was to get my Pilates qualifications. I did this and started a small community class for locals and to try to financially help ends meet. The class was a resounding success. I had a lot of requests for more classes, but with limited time and funds the idea of bringing my classes to people online was born. We now have members all over the world!

Filming an in studio Pilates video

What effects have the practice had on you physically and mentally?

I love to nourish and condition my body, and there is no better way to achieve this than Pilates. I feel strong, flexible and pain free despite being heavily active for a living. I swear by my routine for creating tone and definition whilst staying lean and flexible at the same time. The workouts you see on the online studio are the workouts I do personally and that I have done since I was 13 years old. My workouts are also my time for me, and that’s so important especially while we are on the road and things are hectic. I find that my hour of Pilates each day helps me to calm down, centres my mind, detoxes my body and leave me feeling more focused! One of the principles of Pilates is Centring, by focusing your attention on engaging you core, precision of movement and control, you are meditating without even realising and also creating better body awareness!

I’ve personally noticed such a difference in my body since starting Pilates. What do you think sets it apart from other forms of exercise?

The amazing thing about Pilates is that anyone, no matter their age, size or fitness level, can take part and reap the incredible benefits. The results are undeniable, it’s effective and it can be as challenging or as gentle as you like due to the versatility of each exercise. Pilates exercises dramatically strengthen the core and pelvic floor, providing stability, strength and support for the spine. So not only will you have a lean, toned figure, but it also increases the longevity of your joints and eliminates aches and pains so you can exercise forever! If you want amazing posture, strength, balance, flexibility and a toned, taut figure, then Pilates is for you!

Your trip looks amazing! What inspired it and what is your route?

It has been such an incredible experience, one I will never forget! It wasn’t something I had considered until I met my amazing boyfriend, Tim. When I first met Tim and it came up that he was taking a year long career break to travel, my heart sank. I had never considered stopping my community classes on the Gold Cost and I never thought travelling was on the cards. We kept seeing each other and although I was so excited for him and his adventure, I couldn’t help feeling a little devastated that timing could be so cruel.

It was only two weeks before he made a suggestion I hadn’t even dared to consider…”Why don’t you come with me?” It turns out that the timing really couldn’t have been more perfect, the online studio would allow me to travel, and I wasn’t about to let the best thing I’ve ever known pass me by. So without even hesitating we started planning our dream trip, Roadtripping around the USA and seeing where the road takes us. It felt like I’d been part of the plan all along.

We have so far been to New York, St. Martin in the Caribbean, New Orleans, Lafayette, Vancouver, Alaska and Seattle! We are now in our camper van so we are in the process of mapping out the best filming locations!

Lisa’s pup, Diggity

What’s next for Pilates By Lisa? Where do you see things going in 1 year? 5 years?

With the busy lifestyle we all lead, online fitness is the way of the future. I had a dream of bringing fitness to the convenience of people’s homes. It all started when a regular customer at one of our community classes was moving to Sydney. She loved our classes and was upset she could no longer do them. I had an ancient camcorder at home and, as a leaving gift for her, I filmed a thirty minute workout. It had no sound but was perfect for her! Others found out and wanted one for themselves. If someone had told me that I would be talking with you now from Seattle filming workouts for our members around the world, I would have laughed. So as for the future…who knows!

I would love to keep helping women around the world become the best version of themselves and break down the barriers. Fitness should be affordable, accessible and available to everyone, no matter what. Regardless of age, size, ability, income, nationality or gender, we aim to make our online workouts a service that makes everyone feel a part of a community. Studio classes can be extremely expensive, exclusive, intimidating and out of reach for many.

Anything else you’d like to add?

Thank you so much for having me! I’m very excited to be a guest on your blog, I’m a very big fan of your website and I look forward to following it from the US! x

She offers a free 10 day trial on her online classes, so it’s the perfect way to sample them if you’re interested in giving Pilates a try! Her classes are great for all levels, there is so much variety to choose from, and they are so effective.

The other day I was telling my friend about my mom’s chocolate macaroon cookie recipe- not like the fancy sandwich cookies from Paris, but the messy delicious chocolatey things that I think some people call haystack cookies (or something like that).

Anyways, the other morning I was adding things to my oatmeal, and I realized I basically had made an oatmeal version of macaroon cookies. It was DELICIOUS! So I wanted to share it here today.

I used to be totally against sugar and went through multiple periods of eating sugar-free. I no longer put any restrictions at all on what I can and can’t eat, but I really do feel better when I stay away from refined sugar. Because of this, I had no plans of making or eating the real chocolate macaroon cookies, so I was really excited when I accidentally made the oatmeal version because it is so delicious and much healthier.

Make the oatmeal following the instructions on the bag (cook times vary depending on which kind of oats you use. Liquid to oat ratio may vary as well).
Once oats are cooked, mix in the remaining ingredients, and top with berries if you are using them. Grab a spoon and enjoy!

I wanted this meal to be as quick as possible, so I took Peanut Butter Runner’s and basically just cut out a few steps and ingredients and called it my own (i.e. it’s not at all authentic pad thai, but it’s totally delicious).

Place rice noodles (enough for 2-3 people, I don’t have an exact measurement) in a large pan and cover in water. Cook over medium heat until noodles are soft.

While the noodles are cooking, throw all of the sauce ingredients into a blender and blend until smooth.

Wash and chop bok choy and place it into your bowl(s).

Once the noodles are ready, strain them and add them back into the pan. Pour the sauce on top- depending on how much noodles you’ve cooked, you may not need to use all the sauce. You want to pour in enough sauce that it’s a bit soupy because some of it will evaporate, but I sometimes have sauce left over, which is great because I’ll pour it over rice or something the next day.

Cook over low-medium heat for a few minutes, stirring frequently, until the sauce becomes a bit thicker (just a few minutes is good, other wise it will become too dry. If this happens, just add more sauce).

Once the noodles are ready, place them on top of the book choy and top with sliced green onion, peanuts, and lime.

So damn easy, and so damn good.

I like keeping this recipe super simple, but if you want to bulk it up, there are tons of options! Add chicken, shrimp, more veggies, bean sprouts, tofu, whatever! Just follow your tastebuds! If I do want to add tofu, I like to broil it in the oven and then just throw it in when I’m ready to serve it. I tried stir frying it once with the sauce and noodle mix but because of the sauce it couldn’t crisp up, so it was just mushy.

BAKED TOFU

Press excess water out of a block of firm tofu and then slice and cube it.
Place on a pan with parchment paper (use parchment paper- I don’t think any amount of oil could keep it from sticking to the pan).
Place in the oven and turn it to broil. Flip tofu after about 5 minutes. Cooking time should be about 10 mins total depending on the size of your subs and level of desired crispness.
Obvioiusly on their own, these will not be the most flavourful things, but once they are coated in that peanut sauce, they are delicious!!

And once again, for the still easy (and delicious!) but slightly more involved recipe from Peanut Butter Runner, check it out here.

I hope you love this meal as much as I do!! It is just so easy, and to be honest even this is a lot more effort than I normally put into cooking, but I think it’s soo worth it. Let me know what you think and send me pics of the finished product!

Do you want to write for The Huffington Post? I’m going to show you exactly how to do it! I have been sharing this info with a few people over the last few months, so I wanted to put it into a blog post so it could be accessible to anyone who might be searching for it.

I’ve been writing for The Huffington Post since February (you can see my articles here), and while it’s so great to be able to write for them, what most people don’t know is that it’s really not hard at all!! If you have submitted work before and not heard back, there’s a good chance that it’s not due to the quality of your work but rather you just didn’t submit it correctly.

There are 3 main reasons why I think it’s awesome to be published with HP

It’s fun, and it’s good for your portfolio to have your work published with a reputable outlet

They allow you to publish content that has been shared elsewhere, which is amazing for bloggers!! All of my Huff Post articles are blog articles from My Spiritual Roadtrip that I have repurposed.

Once you have one article published with them, you are a Huffington Post Blogger and you don’t have to go through the submission process to have future articles published! You get access to the blogger platform and just post articles from there, like you would on your own personal blog.

Win, win, win.

Oh also, you email Ariana Huffington directly, and she replies to you if she chooses to publish your work! That in itself is pretty cool to me.

Before I share the info, I want to say is that this info did not come from me- and I unfortunately do not remember who it came from!! I really wish I did, so I can give credit where it’s due, but someone posted it in a blogger Facebook group I used to be a part of. Once I went on my blogging sabbatical last year, I left all of the Facebook groups and have noo idea which group it was from or who sent it. If by some amazing chance someone reading this knows who sent it, please let me know!! All I know is that her name is Sarah, and I think she is so awesome for taking the time to put all of this info together for the benefit of people she doesn’t even know.

Okay Sarah shared a file that outlines exactly how to get published with The Huffington Post. Here is it.

You can write an article from scratch or re-purpose one of your old blog posts. HuffPo don’t mind if you’ve published your article on your blog already. If you have I recommend changing it a bit so the articles aren’t identical. Having said that I don’t recommend repurposing articles you’ve written and had published as guest posts on other people’s websites.

Articles should be between 500 and 1000 words and can be about pretty much any topic as long as it’s not offensive – keep it clean and positive.

Once you’ve written an article you’re happy with, email it to Arianna Huffington herself – arianna@huffingtonpost.com include a short hello, a sentence or two about your post and include your post. I sent it in the body of the email (below the sign off) AND as a Word document just to make it easier for her/her team to read it.

This is the second time I’ve submitted. The first time I didn’t hear back – if they don’t want to publish it they won’t reply. This time however, I received a reply within 4 days. I have heard of it taking up to 2 weeks for people to hear back.

If you get the yes, you’ll receive an email from Arianna saying they want to publish, then you’ll receive an email from the blogging team with your log in details. You then log in, set up your bio, add your photo, add your post and format it (simple wordpress style formatting where you can add numbering, bold/italicise text) – it’s easy to do. You can also add a photo to be used with the post but it must be one you have permission to share – so not something you’ve just grabbed from the web or Pinterest. As far as I understand photos from free stockshot companies like Unsplash, Death to the Stock Photo etc. are ok.

Once you’ve formatted your post you hit the save button which submits it to the editing team. They check it and if it’s all ok it’s usually live within 24 hours (unless they’re crazy busy, then it can take a couple of days). For me it was less than 24 hours.

Share it around your community and celebrate the heck out of yourself for doing an awesome job!

That’s about it. Happy to answer any questions you might have. Sarah x

So there you have it. If you have any other questions or comments please send them my way! And if this lands you a Huffington Post publication, share you article in the comment section below.

Luckily, my mornings are much more relaxed these days, and a typical day starts something like this: get up, wash my face, grab a glass of water, play with my roommate’s kitten, and then if I’m in the mood (which is most days), I hop back in bed for a guided meditation. I love guided meditations because they are such an easy way to chill our and ease into the day (plus they give me an excuse to get back into bed in the morning- winning!).

I have a few favourites that I like to rotate through, so I wanted to share them here today. I think guided meditations are great whether or not you are a regular meditator, but I think they are especially great for beginners who feel a bit uneasy about the idea of meditating.

BrainSync: I’ve been using BrainSync meditations for about a year now, and I LOVE them. They offer meditations on a ton of topics (health, finances, love, expansion, general wellbeing, etc.), and they use brainwave technology (binaural beats) to sync your brain up to higher states of consciousness. It works on the subconscious level of your mind to replace limiting beliefs with positive ones. For more on BrainSync, check out their site here. (Note: I am an affiliate for BrainSync because I love and have benefited from their products).

Abraham Hicks’ Meditations: Writing this, I’m just realizing I haven’t done one of these meditations in a little while, which is strange considering how much I love them. I know what I’ll be listening to tomorrow morning. To be honest, I’m not 100% sure if these meditations are for everyone, and I think it might be helpful to have an understanding of Abraham’s teachings before listening to them, but I’m not sure. If you’ve never heard of Abraham Hicks before, you can check out a post I wrote on them here, here, and here. Short version: They teach about the Law of Attraction. But they do it in a really cool and unique way. Their teachings really mean a lot to me and have helped me to change my perspective on life dramatically.

Marisa Peer’s Hypnotherapy: I discovered Marisa Peer a month or two ago on YouTube, and loved what she was sharing SO much (this video rocks). I’d never heard of her before , but apparently she is one of the UK’s top therapists. She is also a Hypnotherapist and has a bunch of hypnotherapy audios on a wide variety of topics. Hypnotherapy works on the subconscious mind as well, and it is totally safe to use at home (in case you’re remembering seeing someone hypnotized on stage at a show running around like a chicken or something, don’t worry- that is not what’s going to happen here!).
She sells her audios from her site but for some reason they are listed at $49, while they are $15 on iTunes. A bit confused about that, so I get mine on iTunes.

Denise Linn’s Meditations: Back when I used to teach yoga, I’d play a guided meditation from Denise Linn’s 33 Spirit Journeys album at the end of class. Denise seriously seems like the kindest, sweetest, most genuine person ever. I want her to follow me around in my daily life and just tell me nice things and be like my Fairy Godmother. Seems reasonable, yeah? These mediations are all around 10 mins long, so they are a great quick pick me up. She’s got a bunch of other albums too that I’ve never checked out but which look great. Check them out here.

Gabrielle Bernstein’s Meditations: Gabrielle Bernstein has meditation albums to go with most of her books in addition to a few other albums. I have only done a couple of her meditations, but I love the ones I have tried. Her voice is really soothing and her words are powerful. She also offers lots of free meditations on her YouTube channel.

Okay, when I started this post, I thought there were only 3 guided meditations that I used, and then I got typing and realized there were a lot more. This is like the teeniest tip of the iceberg- there are so many great guided meditations out there. And these days, it seems like every spiritual/wellness author has gotten on the guided meditation train, so if there’s someone whose method or teachings you click with, just google their name + guided meditation.

Got a favourite that you don’t see listed here? Let me know- I’d love to check it out!

I hope you’re all enjoying the beginning of your summer It’s starting to get nice here in Halifax, and I am so excited for some warm weather.

On Tuesday, I had three of my articles published, and I was so excited about them but also trying my best not to blow up everyone’s Facebook feed by sharing them all at once.

I wanted to share them here in case you missed them on Facebook.

My first Mind Body Green article, How I Became Addicted to Wellness + What it Took to Heal, I talk about my spiritual/wellness journey and how it’s transformed over the years. It’s a very personal post and one that I was so happy (and a bit nervous) to be able to share, especially on such an amazing site as MBG. You can check that out here.

To stay up to date with all of my latest articles, you can follow me on my blog’s Facebook page, My Spiritual Roadtrip!

I have a few more writing projects coming out soon, which I’m really excited about. And if you have any ideas on things you’d like to hear from me, I would loooove to hear it! I’m always looking for writing inspiration.

So lately I’ve been starting to miss blogging, and I just had a delicious smoothie for breakfast, so I thought I’d share it on here

Mint chocolate has always been one of my favourite sweet food combos (right up there with chocolate peanut butter. omg!). I used to make mint chocolate smoothies using peppermint extract, and it was good, but then I started using fresh mint instead and all I can say is Game. Changer. It is just delicious.

Here’s what you need to make one giant mason jar full of smoothie.

Note: For those of you who are new to my smoothie recipes, you may think it’s crazy that I’m using 5 bananas in my smoothie. Basically, a year or so ago, I learned about high carb diets through Instagrammers like Loni Jane and Ellen Fisher and books like The 80/10/10 Diet. I don’t follow a High Carb Low Fat diet (HCLF), because I don’t follow any kind of diet, but I still do enjoy eating lots of carby foods. So yeah if you want to learn more you can check out those links. I by no means am saying I think High Carb is for everyone, but I do personally enjoy eating a plant based high carb diet most of the time.

I’ve decided I am done with blogging, and the simple reason for this is that I just don’t want to do it anymore.

You know when you go back and forth on something for so long. You just can’t make up your mind, and then you finally make a decision and it feels like the most obvious choice in the world? That’s how I felt the other day when I decided that I was done with blogging.

For a really long time I had this nagging thought at the back of my head that said I didn’t want to be doing this. In some ways, I don’t think I ever wanted to be doing it, but I also can’t really say that that’s entirely true.

I began blogging in June of 2013. I wasn’t exactly passionate about the idea, but I really didn’t know what I was doing with my life, and I felt pretty passionless in general, which really scared me.

As a kid I had loved writing, but somewhere along the way I’d let it go and decided it was just a childhood pastime. My aunt however knew better, and she kept telling me that I needed to start writing. She told me that even if writing wasn’t for me, she thought that starting to write would open something up in me and help me to figure things out.

Blogging seemed like the best way I could think of to write, so I started my blog, which was originally called Vegan Baileys.

It turns out she was right- I love writing. And through blogging, I really have learned and opened up so much. What I don’t love is finding photos for posts, editing photos, thinking of blog posts, making SEO friendly content, promoting my posts on social media, networking with other bloggers, creating a nice blog layout, signing up for affiliate programs and trying to promote products in the hopes of making some money, and all of the other hundreds of little things that go into blogging. I realized that writing is just one small part of being a blogger, and all of the other parts I either didn’t do, or I did with a sense of obligation and total lack of enthusiasm.

Here is my other main thing with blogging, and this is the thing that made me not want to start a blog and made me question many times why I was blogging: I think there is way too much information out there bombarding us, particularly online, and I was very wary of contributing to that.

I think it’s amazing that people are sharing their stories and useful and fun information. There are amazing movements going on right now- health, environmental, spiritual, body confidence, and on and on- because so many people are writing and talking about them and sharing stories and information. But there’s also A LOT of content that gets created and recycled solely for the purpose of filling up a blog or a website.

Sometimes I would write posts that felt so true and so real and so uniquely “me.” I knew I was sharing a part of myself, and I felt that it could be of benefit to others. Other times, I just felt like I was writing something to stay on my blogging schedule.

I think, if something isn’t inspiring to create, it’s not going to be inspiring to read. It’s when you love and are passionate about what you’re doing that you can help to inspire others. I’ve heard and read bloggers who have really “made it” talk about blogging, and they talk about how they love it so much, so it’s not surprising to me that people love to read what they are sharing. That inspiration gets passed on from writer to reader. My blog kind of felt more like a homework assignment, and that’s just not how it’s meant to be.

In retrospect, I think I was scared to let go of my blog because I haven’t really known what I want to do with my life for so long, and at least with my blog I had something. It’s way easier to say “I’m a blogger,” than “Ummm….” when people ask you what you do. But lying to yourself doesn’t really get you anywhere.

So. What’s the plan from here? Well as I said, I like writing, just not blogging. I do have some topics that I have been wanting to write about, so I think if I decide to do some more public writing, I’ll try to have them published on other blogs and sites rather than my own.

I also love sharing things that actually do inspire me and make me happy, and the place that I enjoy doing that is on Instagram. I plan to keep Instagramming daily, so if you want to stay up to date on my favourite recipes, quotes, thoughts, products, activities, as well as what’s going on in my life, that’s where you can find me. I also discovered recently that I love making YouTube videos, so in the future I may make more, and if I do, I’ll post them on this site. You can take a look at my previous videos here.

I appreciate so so much the support and connections and amazing words that you all have given me over the last 2 1/2 years. Sometimes I’d write a post or make a video, and I’d feel so self conscious or weird or awkward after like ‘why did I just post that and what are people going to think?’ And then I’d get a message or a comment or an email saying that it helped them or just a word of support or encouragement, and it just made me happier than I can tell you.

I get nostalgic over just about anything, so thinking back over the last 2 1/2 years of blogging makes me kind of emotional, and kind of like I’m abandoning my online baby. But it also feels so good to be saying no to something that isn’t really contributing to my happiness.

I don’t ever want to write something just to fill a schedule. Here’s all I really want to say in my writing: Life is amazing, and you are amazing. You don’t need to read about how to fix or change yourself because you are perfect. Love yourself, have fun, be kind to others, be open to love, do things that excite you and light you up and make you so happy to be alive. Turn off your computer and just go and enjoy your amazing life.

I’m not much of a fan of the gym. I have nothing against gyms, but they’re just not really my thing.

Instead, I love exercising at home, and my favourite way to workout (aside from walking) is to follow along with workout videos (I just get way too bored if I have to devise my own workout plan. I want someone to talk me through it!).

Today I’m sharing my favourite ways to workout online for free! By having all of these resources at my fingertips, I’m able to maintain an exercise routine that is fun, effective, and full of variety.

Tone It Up: Trainers Karena and Katrina offer lots of great workout videos on their YouTube channel. Tone it Up and Blogilates are the two YouTube channels I use the most because they are awesome!

Blogilates: Casey offers super intense pilates inspired workouts. They are really short, so they’re kind of deceptive, but man they are tough!

TMac Fitness: If you’re looking for intense interval training style workouts, definitely checkout TMac. There are a tone of free 20 minute videos of the their website.

Banana Blondie 108: I love her yoga style so much! It’s very fluid and sexy but is also an awesome workout. She offers some free classes on her website (and more classes for site members).

Yoga by Candace: Candace has a ton of great yoga videos on her YouTube channel, and I love how her classes cover a variety of different focuses (ex. core, power, low back, sciatica, etc).

GymRa: I just discovered this YouTube channel, so I can’t speak to it from personal experience, but it looks great!

My favourite way of all to workout is My Yoga Online. It offers hundreds of yoga, pilates, dance, and weight classes from some of the worlds best yoga teachers and trainers. I’ve been using it for years! If you’re interested, you can try it now for only 99 cents for your first month (after that it’s only $10/month).

What are your favourite ways to workout online? There are seriously soo many to choose from, which is amazing! The ones I’ve listed here are my favourites, but this is really just a very small portion of what’s out there.

So can we all agree that Mac and Cheese is one of the best meals ever? You just can’t go wrong with pasta and melted cheese (or cheeze for us plant based eaters out there). A couple of months ago, I shared my super simple 4 ingredient Vegan Mac and Cheese recipe. It’s definitely one of the most popular recipes in my eBook, The Vibrant Health Recipe Book. It’s just corn pasta, avocado, nutritional yeast, and dijon mustard. YUM!

I’ve dubbed the recipe I’m sharing today Deluxe Vegan Mac and Cheese because there’s just more to it than my other recipe. Also, I generally share very healthy recipes on my blog, and while I wouldn’t say this one is unhealthy, it’s also not one of my healthiest because it uses some faux products, like Daiya cheeze and Earth Balance. But you know what? Sometimes you just need a creamy, cheezy, delicious bowl of Mac and Cheese.

This recipe is adapted from one that my Mom made for us all the time when we were growing up. It’s from an old cookbook from the 60s, and the other day we “veganized” the recipe, and it turned out fab.

Note that this recipe is not gluten free, but you can easily make it so by subbing in corn pasta and gluten free flour and bread crumbs.

Melt Earth Balance in a sauce pan and stir in flour. Cook slowly over low heat, stirring constantly until it bubbles and foams for about 3 minutes. It should be slightly golden but not brown. Remove from heat. Add salt, pepper, and milk, and stir rapidly using a spoon or whisk. Cook over medium heat, stirring constantly until sauce bubbles. Cook 1 minute longer.

Note: once it’s cooked, I love adding some dijon mustard to my Mac and Cheese. it might sound kind of weird, but it is such a good combo!