Joyner: Obama is Persecuting Christians!

I wonder what it would be like to go even a single day without some religious right loony striking the martyr pose and claiming to be persecuted with no evidence whatsoever. Here’s Rick Joyner delivering a truckload of bullshit on the subject:

There are many ways that our federal government has overreached and has brazenly done what the Constitution forbids. In most of these, you can see an obvious agenda of suppressing Christianity. The same Constitution that forbids Congress from establishing religion also prohibits it from hindering its free exercise. I’m often asked if I think Christians in America will suffer persecution, and my response is that it has been happening for a long time. If our present trajectory is not changed, we can expect it to soon become official state policy. Right now it is unofficial state policy.

Under the present administration, there have been a number of ways that the ground is being laid for a far more serious persecution against Christians in America. Some of this is coming through legislation such as the “hate crimes” legislation that specifically targets Christians.

Uh, no it doesn’t. Doesn’t even mention it.

Some is coming through attempts to subject Americans to international laws and the U.N. resolutions, another very blatant violation of the Constitution. Article 6 declares that the Constitution will be “the supreme law of the land.” To subject Americans to any law other than our Constitution would therefore be a basic attack on the Constitution.

Let’s look at what Article 6 actually says:

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

And under Article 6 the Treaty of Tripoli stating that the US is not in any sense a “Christian nation,” IS the supreme Law of the Land.

matty1

In the interests of pedantry it is not obvious that a treaty with a state that no longer exists and dealing with issues long since resolved is still in force.

Doug Little

Some of this is coming through legislation such as the “hate crimes” legislation that specifically targets Christians.

Is that an admission of guilt?

Haters are gonna hate.

jimmiraybob

Article 6 declares that the Constitution will be “the supreme law of the land.” To subject Americans to any law other than our Constitution would therefore be a basic attack on the Constitution.

This sounds strangely anti- State’s Rights for someone also railing against the tyranny of the national big gubmit machine currently ruled by a foreign usurper what with his death rays and his satanic voodoo weather control and his secret deal to make one world government, Praise Allah. I thought it was the states and their God-given laws that were going to rescue us.

raven

Joyner is one of the New Apostles, with claimed superpowers given to him by god.

Evidently, his superpowers are no match against a government persecuting xians.

If his god is so weak, why bother even calling it a god?

PS AFAICT, Joyner’s superpowers seem to be to lie a lot and scam money out of really stupid people.

Is it just me or does The New Apostles sound like a Christian boy-band?

thalwen

Ah American Christian persecution.. Other places in the world, people are killed, have their house or business destroyed, are subject to violence and actual government repression for their religious views. These asshats cite hate crimes and bullying legislation as being equal to that.

raven

Joyner the fraud:

Some of this is coming through legislation such as the “hate crimes” legislation that specifically targets Christians.

Joyner is admitting something I and a few million people noticed long ago.

Fundie xianity is based on pure hate.

No hate = no fundie xianity.

He isn’t bright enough or cares enough to realize hate crime laws don’t make hating illegal. Xians can hate as much as they want.

It makes committing crimes illegal. Which is sort of redundant but whatever.

maudell

Ed, you bigot. Obviously persecution started with the civil right act of 1964, which was specifically targeted at Mormons, who were persecuted by the federal government (what black people?)

jayarrrr

Dominionist/Reconstructionist “Christians” are actively working to dismantle our Democracy and replace it with a Theocracy that will make the Puritans who settled in Massachusetts look like Libertines.

And every time they get caught trying to subvert the Constitution or spewing their revisionist crap (I’m looking at YOU Barton!) They put up their hands and whine about how they’re being “persecuted”, and then everybody backs off because, well, bay-bee Jeebus, and the people who don’t back off, well, they’re just mean old Atheists who just need the Love of Jeebus in their hearts…

iangould

Maudell @ as: Precisely.

The Civil Rights Act infringed on Mormons right to discrinimate against non-whites in line with the teachings of their church.