Opinion?

Rasq'uire'laskar wrote:I am not ready to dip back into this convo again, as I have not yet finished reading the Book of Satan, but this is worth addressing.

[quote= "Rotaretilbo"]

Zaki90 wrote:Hitler was a good lier. Not exactly the brightest crayon in the box, but had speech skills like Obama, Lincoln, and Ghandi put together. To bad he killed himself.

I don't consider empty charisma to be the best of qualities. More like too bad he didn't kill himself sooner.

Hitler was, quite honestly, a genius.His command of troops and attention to detail gave him both grand strategic vision and the ability to micromanage the armies down to the company level (Not too sharp on the army level, though). His insight into politics and human nature was the driving force behind his oratory.

Unfortunately, he was also racist to an extreme (Influenced by Goebbels) and certifiably insane after 1943. Realizing that everyone actually IS out to get you is not good for the psyche.

So, I mourn for the potential he had, and the means he used his abilities for.

But its Hitler.... I would rather see him fuck up and WW2 end sooner than let genocide happen. Dude are you a fucking Nazi?

I bet you voted that this was unreasonable, shout at homeless to get jobs, and tell everyone that wears red a communist.

Yes, No, No.

Some people just get fucked and cant get out of being poor, no matter how hard they try. I wouldn't be the one yelling at them to get a job, I would probably give them food, something atleast to make their lives a bit better. We have no homeless in my town, none that I have seen anyways but we have poor, and I usually help out either by donating stuff I really dont need, and I donate food as well.

And No angatar im not some Red scare idiot that hates everything about communism, its distribution of resources and food equally is something that would work for the better but most communistic governments act more like dictatorships rather then what was originally intended by the people forming the government. The leaders of the government usually began to starve the others, and let their friends, families, and any other people that they see fit get as much as they want. That is the only real reason I hate communism, its a incubator for Dictatorships and Totalitarianism.

Gauz wrote:Probably.

Ignorant bitch.

Ignorant? Ha you make me laugh.

Ignorance is not accepting the view of others, I usually like to see all views of all people, but as with any other human being I will not accept all views, no one can. Your false accusations are based on your hate of me, it is your ignorance for not accepting my views on Rasq's comment or in least not calmly disagreeing with them,[sarcasm] but I guess your three words would counter everything I have to say.[/sarcasm]

Ringleader wrote:And, I am pretty sure it's reasonable to want Hitler to have ruined his own regime and prevent 6 million people from dieing if that isn't too liberally squelching to Hitler's intellectual potential, cause you know, if you disagree with that, then your just some kook who yells at homeless people or people WHO DON'T AGREE WITH YOU (ahem ahem).

Ahem more like the 21 million, Hitler can be attributed to the deaths of all the people his SS and armies murdered.

Death no more wrote:But its Hitler.... I would rather see him fuck up and WW2 end sooner than let genocide happen. Dude are you a fucking Nazi?

You realize that Rasq listed Hitler's racism as one of his worst qualities, right? I'd have sooner seen a Germany with no concentration camps kick our asses up and down Europe for what we did to them after WW1 and be speaking German right now, personally.

Gauz wrote:Probably.

Ignorant bitch.

Irony++

Angatar wrote:You wrote 3 paragraphs and attempted to use big words to counter me, then told me I am right.

Nice.

You mean to say you so thoroughly misunderstood his post as to think he said you were right? You truly are hopeless.

TNine wrote:You're American...how the fuck do you not know this?

Giants FTW!

Don't watch much TV.

Angatar wrote:Only reason 90% of people like the Giants is because they can win.

And I suppose ability to win is not a redeeming or likeable quality of a sports team?

Death no more wrote:But its Hitler.... I would rather see him fuck up and WW2 end sooner than let genocide happen. Dude are you a fucking Nazi?

You realize that Rasq listed Hitler's racism as one of his worst qualities, right? I'd have sooner seen a Germany with no concentration camps kick our asses up and down Europe for what we did to them after WW1 and be speaking German right now, personally.

Ringleader wrote:No, im pretty sure he simply disagrees with its reason, something you should learn when coming to the stunning conclusion that not everyone agrees with you.

And, I am pretty sure it's reasonable to want Hitler to have ruined his own regime and prevent 6 million people from dieing if that isn't too liberally squelching to Hitler's intellectual potential, cause you know, if you disagree with that, then your just some kook who yells at homeless people or people WHO DON'T AGREE WITH YOU (ahem ahem).

You must think that anyone who countermands what you are saying has absolutely no thinking going on, and is some bible thumping loony or something, what a sad conclusion when going into an argument. Sure, OK, Hitler was brilliant, so what... the smartest person in the world is a bouncer, so what the hell sort of point is this to raise.

You wrote 3 paragraphs and attempted to use big words to counter me, then told me I am right.

Nice.

Nope, apparenty those big words superseded your understanding.

You mean to say you so thoroughly misunderstood his post as to think he said you were right? You truly are hopeless.

Yes, I understand everything I said, including how, when in context, each point I make only functions when taken in context of my entire post, something you fail to consider when you quote one sentence and take it for face value and do the pee pee dance with yourself because you think you thoroughly analyzed what I said, when you only misconstrued it and made yourself look a fool to several people including myself.

Yes, I understand everything I said, including how, when in context, each point I make only functions when taken in context of my entire post, something you fail to consider when you quote one sentence and take it for face value and do the pee pee dance with yourself because you think you thoroughly analyzed what I said, when you only misconstrued it and made yourself look a fool to several people including myself.

which is stupid, really.

So you're saying that "Hitler was brilliant," is different when put in context or out of it? There is no other way to see it. I'll break it down for you:

Hitler - Adolf Hitler, a person, the noun of the sentence.Was - Past tense state of being, the verb of the sentence.Brilliant - Bright, intelligent. A person cannot glow naturally, so we must be talking about intelligence, an adjective describing Hitler.

The German war machine would have were it not for a series of major blunders by Hitler. If Erwin Rommel or another military personnel had been running Germany during WW2, we would have had our asses kicked so bad we'd still be smarting.

Angatar wrote:

Ringleader wrote:Sure, OK, Hitler was brilliant, so what...

Did you actually read his post? His point was that while Hitler was brilliant, it doesn't mean that you should assume that everyone who disagrees with you is automatically all of those things you called death.

Angatar wrote:So you're saying that "Hitler was brilliant," is different when put in context or out of it? There is no other way to see it. I'll break it down for you:

Hitler - Adolf Hitler, a person, the noun of the sentence.Was - Past tense state of being, the verb of the sentence.Brilliant - Bright, intelligent. A person cannot glow naturally, so we must be talking about intelligence, an adjective describing Hitler.