But yes Matt, after looking at prices for renting one, I decided to put this post up in the hopes of finding someone who can interpret "Will pay for a 4x4 ride to towers" and owns a 4x4 so I might pay them for a ride...to towers. m(

Thank you Timmamok, but do you think a Subaru can get out there? Sounds like no.

In one second of googling I found a jeep rental outfit in moab that charges $125/day for jeep rental during the winter, and another that charges $150/day during high season. Maybe the jeep for $150/hour comes with a hooker. I don't think you'll find too many folks psyched to spend 2 full days of driving on 4x4 roads to chauffeur you cheaper than renting a jeep would be.

I've driven the white rim and to taylor canyon in a subaru. If you are motivated, don't care all that much about the vehicle, and can spare the time to move some rocks around when necessary, there aren't all that many places you can't get a subaru.

Moses is a really sick tower and could be done in a subie assuming it was dry. I remember the decent to the river as mellow and then you parrallel the river for a bit, after that it gets a bit rough but only for maybe the last mile and I do think a subie would make it. If not it only adds a mile to the approach. If you are renting a 4x4 do washer woman. you do need 4x4 to get there and that tower is absolutely stunningly amazing.

if you really just want to leave the headaches of planning to someone else check out the bike tour companies, like Magpie Adventures, I bet you could work something out with them, got dropped by one tour, picked up by another... probably get some meals out of it too

Hell, we saw that crazy Kelsey dude romping past Monument Basin one time in his VW Rabbit! There was a lot of metal grinding going on though. You can also rap into Moses from the rim from the end of a two wheel drive road. Maybe they've closed that road now, I'm not sure.

FWIW, you can hike to Moses pretty easily from the paved loop road atop Island in the Sky. It's about 5 miles and on a trail the whole way so it goes pretty fast. It may be possible although longer to hike from the top to hit the standard descent for Monument Basin too, though I've never done this. And at least one party I know has done a complicated descent with multiple rappels and downclimbing to access Washer Tower & Monster Woman.

Tim, have you looked into renting an SUV say from area airports? If you think of doing Monster and Washer Woman, a subie would be sufficient. If you're going into the Monument Basin, there is a steep slab that you can skip by parking your vehicle before it and it's not that much of a hike to the climbing. On our tour de White Rim Trail we drove a couple of miles into the Taylor canyon as well to suss out the road and found it not bad, but on a sandy side, so some type of all wheel or four wheel drive would probably be helpful...

My pet peeve is people offering to pay gas like they are fully compensating you. Fuel cost is perhaps only 20-25% of cost per mile after factoring in insurance, tax, depreciation, oil, tires, other maintenance, repairs, etc. And you gotta pay that stuff and only get so many miles out of a vehicle.

Around here taxis run $2.50 per mile. On paved roads.

Seems like a skilled off roader would be giving you fair dinkum at $4 per.

Oh, and road conditions in Taylor last week are not necessarily the same this week.

And Larry is a good guy who helped out a friend (thanks Larry, sent some more this week).

I know "they rent jeeps in Moab". I was actually looking for a crew of us being dropped off for a BASE jump, so we needed a driver to go along with the jeep, similar to what I thought you were asking for.. Good luck timmy.

So do you guys have rates to be desert manservants? Do stuff like make coffee and food, carry and sort the rack, rip off strips of tape while the client is making tape gloves, hold the wag bag, etc? I bet you'd make bank when the East Coast climbers come out during spring break.