With all the hype over the rear speakers that fold down, why is there no type of low voltage cuttoff / low automatic engine start. Do you know how often my battery dies? I have to carry a jumper box with me at all times...

Thank you for the feedback. How long do you use your speakers w/ the engine off before the battery dies?

The styling is smoother, more rounded, looks more like the old Liberty, and the Squared off Patriot just looks SO much like a brick. The Compass looks more modern, like it belongs on a freeway at 75mph, and looks like it could potentially get better fuel efficiency.

In a 5spd Patriot, what are the final drive gear ratios? Looking to replace a stock 93 Cherokee with the 5spd Patriot and would still like to be able to access certian remote camping areas. Would this be a wise choice?

Do the Patriots have any provisions to run well at +10,000 feet? I only ask because I have seen very few Patriots here in the high country of Colorado.

What is the largest factory tire size that comes on a Patriot?

I really believe the Patriot would be a good addition to the Jeep family of mine. Although, from reading testimonials from owners, their desire for more power has me concerned.

1st 3.77, 2nd 2.160, 3rd 1.414, 4th 1.026, 5th 0.810, r 3.42, Final Drive 4.12 , Remember the Patriot is naturally aspirated. The Patriot does meet all on road demands at +10,000 feet. 215/65R17 is the largest tire. This is a 28" dia tire.

I want the lift because I keep dragging the trailer hitch bike rack through waterbars on logging roads. It's purely a capability reason. The last road I was one shifted the hitch upwards by a couple degrees from hitting the rear of the bike rack (close to where a hitch ball would normally sit).

I know you can't recommend lifting it. That's why I asked what the maximum angles on the CV joints are.

will or can there be any option for the CVT like a "performance/economy" mode switch? like something to keep the engine RPM a bit higher than normal for a bit of a "peppier" feel?

sorta like the old XJs had, a "performance/comfort" switch.

BTW love our patriot! nice job guys!

We love the input and continue to work toward satisfying your wants and needs for a "performance/comfort" switch.

If you want a little extra pep you can pull the shift lever down into L and you will get a different shift schedule that give you more gear ratio. This can be done at any time / any speed and the CVT will choose the most appropriate ratio.

No doubt the diesel would benefit some customers, depending on your usage patterns. The issue is the cost associated with meeting the regulations here in the U.S.

I guess the question we'll throw back to the MK forum is: How much would you be willing to pay for a diesel option?

This depends on the fuel economy achieved. I think there would be a large market for the MK equipped with a diesel engine something along the lines of a 2.0L like what is going into the 2009 Jetta TDI. An MK that gets 30+ MPG should demand a couple $$ premium easily. Fuel economy, longevity, range, and low end torque all selling points.

A R.O.I of 2 years would easily convince me to buy a diesel. I'd use the current price of diesel vs the current price of gas and the improved milage from the diesel. I'd keep the diesel for at least 10 years. My Jimmy was 12 years old when I traded it in.

yes, I'd absolutely do the calculations if the diesel had been available in Canada.