zimbos have been quite brilliant. We shouldve won against them in the first match but it was pretty clear that they intented to go big. To be fair, SAffers are playing without their big names and BD is shakibless whilst zimbos are playing their main team.

But nevertheless, theyve been the best team so far in this competition, and rightfully deserves it

Yeah SA is playing without big guns but Kallis and Steyn are not interested in playing T20s anyways unless it's quite big so that leaves De Villiers and Morne missing. Not sure how inclusion of De Villiers and Morne would change course for SA entirely and they are pretty much playing the team that they played against NZ. SA have been exposed in this series that they lack depth in their system and need to quickly rectify before coming world cup; otherwise they won't be able to take anything positive into those low and slow wickets where Steyn to Morkel would be virtually not that effective as they would likely to be; SA needs some quality spinners in their setup very soon to be able to perform well in SL

Originally Posted by playmaker
zimbos have been quite brilliant. We shouldve won against them in the first match but it was pretty clear that they intented to go big. To be fair, SAffers are playing without their big names and BD is shakibless whilst zimbos are playing their main team.

But nevertheless, theyve been the best team so far in this competition, and rightfully deserves it

did u knw Zim has 2 more player name Taibu and Price and they are not playing in this series.

If we consider any win on the basis of missing players than lot of our win wont have any value...only morris & vilas from todays XI is new in the arena and rest of them are experienced in the international arena.. So it was a quality SA team who just outplayed by zimbo

And WI was missing their entire team when we whitewashed them, there is no point looking down at the wins. You can only beat whoever is presented in front of you. This T20 will do a lot of good for a young Zim T20 team. They have some really good talents, they are certainly heading in the right direction.

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Originally Posted by Ajfar
And WI was missing their entire team when we whitewashed them, there is no point looking down at the wins. You can only beat whoever is presented in front of you. This T20 will do a lot of good for a young Zim T20 team. They have some really good talents, they are certainly heading in the right direction.

Spot on. Their development is quite exciting to see.

They have ruled on Saffers from the first ball today and it was brave performance. I guess they are slightly ahead than tigers temperamentally

After watching the games in my opinion i think
1. bd has improved a lot (played away without tamim shakib and won two game in a row, and that also after losing 1st two)
2. zimb improved but not much and that also in home
3. SA will smack zimbo in WC mark my ward on that.

Zimbros thoroughly deserved to win this. We've seen them improve every year and always try their best to execute a gameplan despite whatever limitation they may have. Masakadza, Taylor and Taibu are class players and even Sibanda would walk into the Bangladesh team alongside some of their fast bowlers bowling good line and length for the shorter versions.

Harare isn't the Jitumre it was and we better get used to it.

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Originally Posted by Sohel NR
Zimbros thoroughly deserved to win this. We've seen them improve every year and always try their best to execute a gameplan despite whatever limitation they may have. Masakadza, Taylor and Taibu are class players and even Sibanda would walk into the Bangladesh team alongside some of their fast bowlers bowling good line and length for the shorter versions.

Harare isn't the Jitumre it was and we better get used to it.

Taylor is pure CLASS...I'd rate him up there with Tamim and Shakib...in fact I'm rooting for him to surpass Andy Flower as ZIM's best ever bat by the time he retires. Taibu is too streaky to classify as a "class player"; he's like Ashraful 2007 version. Masakadza is too much of a minnow basher to rate him any higher than a guy like SN or Junaid. Jarvis is good, but still raw in my opinion. Vitori was phenomenal against us, but ridiculous against everyone else...I suspect even our boys will pound him next time they see him. Price is also class, but getting too old now. Cremer has a lot of potential, and I think he can be a superb spinner in all formats. Sibanda is also pretty decent, and I think he is the most "Bangladeshi" of their bats in that he hasn't yet met the potential of his talent. I think Craig Ervine will also come good, and perhaps Malcolm Waller too. I also liked the little I saw of Regis Chakabva. But I don't really rate Hammy, Taibu, or Chigumbura very highly at all.

@Asaad: I was talking about those guys being able to walk into OUR team and possibly doing better than many of our winners who keep on getting way too many chances for the sake of some "winning combination". Zimbros don't seem to succumb to such retarded thinking and don't have many, if any at all, riding the coattails of other players' success

I don't think we have as many players who can walk into their team now. Shakib, Tamim, Nasir, Sunny and maybe Mushfiq as specialist batsman. Add Riyad in tests.

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Originally Posted by al Furqaan
Taylor is pure CLASS...I'd rate him up there with Tamim and Shakib...in fact I'm rooting for him to surpass Andy Flower as ZIM's best ever bat by the time he retires.

Taylor is class no doubt but to surpass Andy Flower. Andy Flower has test average of above 50 and he has one of the greatest cricketing minds ever. Taylor needs to work very very hard. Not diminishing the possibilities but it will be very tough indeed.

Originally Posted by Sohel NR
@Asaad: I was talking about those guys being able to walk into OUR team and possibly doing better than many of our winners who keep on getting way too many chances for the sake of some "winning combination". Zimbros don't seem to succumb to such retarded thinking and don't have many, if any at all, riding the coattails of other players' success

I don't think we have as many players who can walk into their team now. Shakib, Tamim, Nasir, Sunny and maybe Mushfiq as specialist batsman. Add Riyad in tests.

Masakadza would walk into our team as easily as Junaid and SN. Taibu and his reverse sweeping is not very different form Ash and his glides to first slip. I only see Taylor, Sibanda, and Jarvis walking into our side - meaning 8 of a combined 11 would/should be our guys - with a fictional lineup looking like this:

@Asaad: Masakadza is way more consistent than Sibanda. Both Taibu and Chigumbura, as streaky as they may be, are way more consistent than Mtin or any of the other winners you've mentioned IMO. Mpofu is more accurate than any of seamers save Nazmul.

My Banglabwe XI based soley on guys in the team now, in ODIs/T20Is would be:

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If Taylor can ever replicate/better Andy Flower's feat of 142 and 199* in one Test against a side that is the quality of South Africa, I'll eat my hat. Not to say that he isn't quality, but man, Andy Flower was in a totally different league.