Alonjar:sanriosucks: Can someone more in the know fill me in? This story, or the lapd's version (plus accusations made in the "manifesto"), doesn't add up. Is there more here? Conspiracy? Has this guy actually killed anyone yet?Or is he just a killer duckhead who happens to work for the lapd (who nobody trusts enough to have people not think an enemy of theirs is probably innocent)

Typical mass media proganda bullshiat.

He was a true boy scout... joinend police explorers as a kid, found $8k cash and turned it in to a church, joined the military where he went into intelligence work.. eventually was allowed to switch to non active reserves and complete his dream of joining the LAPD.

Then when he's an officer, he sees rampant racism and abuse of citizens. The day that sparked this whole mess, he had handcuffed a mentally ill suspect, and a female cop walked over and started kicking the suspect in the face... while he was on the ground handcuffed.

So Mr GI Joe here reports her for excessive force... which goes to a review panel, they say Uh we dont prosecute cops, sorry, she didnt do it... but you're now fired for filing a "false report". and lying about this abuse that never happened.

Because he was fired from the LAPD for "creating a false report", it completely boned his military security clearance and destroyed any chance he has of working anything other than a security guard.

Having everything stripped from him, and seeing rampant corruption going unchecked, as well as racism etc, he has become The Punisher, the Dark Knight, he who watches the watchmen. He has vowed to cut the corruption out of the LAPD by force, using his tactical training and access to secure military intelligence systems.

He is the terror that flaps in the night. He will kill every police officer he can to root this evil from the land. Only by waging assymetrical warfare against the LAPD was he able to bring attention to a corrupted system, and his injustice he has had to endure because he chose to do the right thing.

He is the creak in the hallway. He is the wind rustling at the back of your neck. Because his life was torn from him and destroyed to protect criminal cops, forcing him into these actions, he will never get to have a family. For forcing this fate upon him, none of the cops families shall be safe. All they hold dear is at risk... for once, the hunters become the hunted. The tyrants are afraid, for justice has come for them.

He is a good man pushed too far... and he is prepared to give his life, so that you may live yours in freedom and liberty.

sanriosucks:Can someone more in the know fill me in? This story, or the lapd's version (plus accusations made in the "manifesto"), doesn't add up. Is there more here? Conspiracy? Has this guy actually killed anyone yet?Or is he just a killer duckhead who happens to work for the lapd (who nobody trusts enough to have people not think an enemy of theirs is probably innocent)

Typical mass media proganda bullshiat.

He was a true boy scout... joinend police explorers as a kid, found $8k cash and turned it in to a church, joined the military where he went into intelligence work.. eventually was allowed to switch to non active reserves and complete his dream of joining the LAPD.

Then when he's an officer, he sees rampant racism and abuse of citizens. The day that sparked this whole mess, he had handcuffed a mentally ill suspect, and a female cop walked over and started kicking the suspect in the face... while he was on the ground handcuffed.

So Mr GI Joe here reports her for excessive force... which goes to a review panel, they say Uh we dont prosecute cops, sorry, she didnt do it... but you're now fired for filing a "false report". and lying about this abuse that never happened.

Because he was fired from the LAPD for "creating a false report", it completely boned his military security clearance and destroyed any chance he has of working anything other than a security guard.

Having everything stripped from him, and seeing rampant corruption going unchecked, as well as racism etc, he has become The Punisher, the Dark Knight, he who watches the watchmen. He has vowed to cut the corruption out of the LAPD by force, using his tactical training and access to secure military intelligence systems.

He is the terror that flaps in the night. He will kill every police officer he can to root this evil from the land. Only by waging assymetrical warfare against the LAPD was he able to bring attention to a corrupted system, and his injustice he has had to endure because he chose to do the right thing.

He is the creak in the hallway. He is the wind rustling at the back of your neck. Because his life was torn from him and destroyed to protect criminal cops, forcing him into these actions, he will never get to have a family. For forcing this fate upon him, none of the cops families shall be safe. All they hold dear is at risk... for once, the hunters become the hunted. The tyrants are afraid, for justice has come for them.

He is a good man pushed too far... and he is prepared to give his life, so that you may live yours in freedom and liberty.

JustFarkinAround:I can't believe the NRA isn't all over this story: regardless of which side you believe, what a perfect story against gun control!

If you believe Dorner, you should have a legal right to defend yourself against a corrupt police force and the government that is too corrupt to fix it.If you believe the LAPD, you should have the legal right to defend yourself against a highly trained, armed and crazed ex-soldier/policeman.

If you still believe in gun control, you still have your right to be a pussy, stick your head in the sand , and hope that your precious govt/police give two shiats about your anonymous ass or your family - I hope that works out for you.

And if you believe that two elderly Hispanic women in a blue Toyota Tacoma are similar enough to a middle aged black man in a grey Nissan Titan to justify unloading your weapons at them, you should be really happy!

Bathia_Mapes:Snotnose: They got surveillance footage of him here in town on monday tossing some unneeded loaded magazines in the trash. An employee found them and the boss took them to a police substation across the street. On camera, the boss was all "my employee missed him by 30 minutes. Thank god he didn't run into him, who knows what would have happened!"

I'm guessing Chris would have said "yo" and continued his biz. He hadn't killed anyone yet, and throwing ammo into the trash is AFAIK not a crime.

The media hysteria is out of control. I fear the cops more than Dorner at this point.

You do realize that he's a suspect in three murders, one of them a cop, right?

BUT it would never happen in Detroit, because there's nobody with any ethics or decency in the entire city government. If there's a good cop (or politician) in Detroit, I'd be completely surprised to meet him or her.

mekki:dr_blasto: In their paranoia, the cops are searching trucks. Forcing the driver to open the thing at gunpoint. Apparently the cops can do whatever they want without repercussion.[l2.yimg.com image 512x324]

Why wouldn't they search trucks? You think Donner is going to stick with one type of vehicle? And they aren't pointing it at the driver. They are pointing it at the opening so that if Donner is in there they have him covered. You think Donner is going to toss up his hands and say, "Well, you got me. Hide and Seek is over" if they find him in a vehicle? What gives you any clue that he would do that?

Rational decisions made by the LAPD that should lead you to trust one of them while his pistol is pointed in your direction:

The best possible outcome of this would be the capture of Dorner with no more bloodshed, a fair trial, and a complete reassessment and restructure of of LAPD's officer misconduct review policies and the establishment of a civilian review board with teeth. LAPD and the city of Los Angeles (and our entire nation) needs this shakeup for its own good.The LAPD has a long-term malignancy that needs to be excised for the good of the city of Los Angeles. No more "thin blue line".

If policies change for the better, Dorner may have in the end, saved more lives than he has taken. Allegedly.

/I hear Cal Worthington's is having a sale on used blue/grey Japanese pickups.//go see Cal, go see Cal, go see Cal///come on down!

styckx:The LAPD look so dumb.. Shooting up innocents. Then they re-opened the case.. To the public that looks like +1 for Dorner. Then they have the stupidity to say "we're not re-opening it for Dorner but for the public".. To the public that looks like +1 for Dorner..

mexican bathtub cheese:The LAPD says they are reopening the investigation regarding his termination. He was fired for complaining about the misconduct of other officers and nothing more, plain and simple retailation. He claims the murder victims were the participants or family members of those officers who got him fired.

If you ruin someone's life and you give them no reason to be a part of society, they tend to be pretty anti-social.

So, what upcoming "an innocent man, who knows to much and is now being hunted by a corrupt system that must silence him at costs and needs to find the real killer to clear his name" movie is this a viral marketing campaign for?

There has been some sort of gang war looking for an informant, and for second time someone has been shot at due to confusion. Luckily nobody has died.

Here are some comments from one of their discussion boards.

I believe that if you were not there to witness and experience the situations PERSONALLY, it is inappropriate to spend time speculating on whether it was a "Good Shoot" or a "Bad Shoot". Those that were there know what happened and after a through investigation, if there was wrongdoing, people will be held accountable in accordance with civil and criminal law.

No of course not. But no one is ever going to be 100% right.So you've never made a mistake? You are 100% on shoot no shoot drills at the range and in real life? How many times have you felt your life was in imminent danger? Have you faced the fear of a serial killer trying to hunt you and gun you down?I think all in all as law enforcement, and Southern California business organizations in particular, does pretty darn good. But as long as you have humans behind the trigger, we will never be perfect.

No one has said they did a good job. But they don't need to be crucified. People here (not necessarily you) have called the murders, assassins, etc etc. Talking about how Dorner should be treated like any other bad guy on the street like we would have to opportunity to give him commands or ever try to take him alive without him killing us first. That's all BS. Dorner himself says so. This isn't a normal law enforcement scenario, it's never happened before here... one of our former own, well trained and well armed hunting us and our families. The stress here is unimaginable.