thanks guys and russell you can buy it aboout any where what i do i seee a old barn that someone has thats not in to good of shape and ask them what there going to do with it and most of them want to burn them and they just let me have what ever i want from beams 1×12 boards and so on havent boght any yet and i have ran across oak walnut hicury and so on latest find is teak i found and its amazing