The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.

Original post: You can ignore this now.

Spoiler!

Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)

Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...t-trade-chart/. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)

If the Chiefs drafted a player that you chose not to draft (e.g. Ramik Wilson) and they subsequently release that player but later re-sign him to the roster or practice squad, can you choose to then add that player as a free agent addition since they technically are a FA at that point?

If the Chiefs drafted a player that you chose not to draft (e.g. Ramik Wilson) and they subsequently release that player but later re-sign him to the roster or practice squad, can you choose to then add that player as a free agent addition since they technically are a FA at that point?

Hmm, my take on that is that they're signing him because they know him from drafting him. I don't think it's come up as an issue before, but I'd vote that we can't pick up a Chiefs player we didn't draft unless they play at least a season with another team. Does that sound reasonable?

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Hmm, my take on that is that they're signing him because they know him from drafting him. I don't think it's come up as an issue before, but I'd vote that we can't pick up a Chiefs player we didn't draft unless they play at least a season with another team. Does that sound reasonable?

I don't know that I would say a season, but what if they have to be picked up by another team, released, and re-acquired by KC? At least at this juncture, there'd be a transfer of contractual rights to the player to another team at least once.

This would effectively stop anyone from picking up players that are bounced between the active roster and the PS as well, since the player has to clear waivers in that process and is effectively a FA when signed in either direction.

Basically, we're setting the following ways to add players to your roster:
1. Draft a player.
2. The Chiefs sign a free agent that had prior contractual obligations to another team to their active roster.
3. The Chiefs sign an undrafted free agent to their active roster.
Any of the above may first go to the practice squad, then to the active roster, but the other prerequisites must hold.

I don't know that I would say a season, but what if they have to be picked up by another team, released, and re-acquired by KC? At least at this juncture, there'd be a transfer of contractual rights to the player to another team at least once.

This would effectively stop anyone from picking up players that are bounced between the active roster and the PS as well, since the player has to clear waivers in that process and is effectively a FA when signed in either direction.

Basically, we're setting the following ways to add players to your roster:
1. Draft a player.
2. The Chiefs sign a free agent that had prior contractual obligations to another team to their active roster.
3. The Chiefs sign an undrafted free agent to their active roster.
Any of the above may first go to the practice squad, then to the active roster, but the other prerequisites must hold.

That seems reasonable. I think the spirit of the rule is that, in the long run, we're creating our own drafted team, and this works as a clarification to the existing rules. Let's do a pilot test this year with this rule in place to see if it creates any problems or dilemmas.

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That seems reasonable. I think the spirit of the rule is that, in the long run, we're creating our own drafted team, and this works as a clarification to the existing rules. Let's do a pilot test this year with this rule in place to see if it creates any problems or dilemmas.

I can't fathom that there will be too many situations where someone would be able to pick up a player under this method. The most recent example would be Knile Davis but I don't recall any others of late.

My rookie report is as follows after one preseason week. The draft spots are mine, not the NFL's.

5th round QB Nathan Peterman is playing well enough that some people are calling to move him up to the #2 QB spot as a rookie. He's currently listed with the 3rd string.

2nd round RB Alvin Kamara is impressing, and appears to be positioning himself for a prominent role in passing situations. He's listed as third string behind Mark Ingram and Adrian Peterson, but is positioned for playing time.

3rd round RB Samaje Perine came out with the first string in the recent game, but had a bad preseason debut for a number of reasons, and was called out by the coaches. He's listed as 3rd string, though.

7th round WR Malachi Dupre was sent to the hospital after being hit in the face after a catch. He's in concussion protocol. He's the 4th string WR at the moment.

3rd round G Dorian Johnson appears to be the third string RG for the Cardinals at the moment.

4th round FS Desmond King is currently the third string FS in San Diego, though reports are that he's in a three-way fight for the starting job, and it's "open". He's avoided the Chargers injury curse so far.

6th round OLB Ejuan Price is currently listed on the 3rd string for the Rams, and I'm not seeing any camp reports about him. It'll be hard for him to beat out Robert Quinn for the starting spot this year, and he needs to beat Matt Longacre out of the #2 spot first.

1st round DE Taco Charlton is listed as the 2nd-string RDE in Dallas behind Tyrone Crawford, and apparently has been pounded by the coaching staff.

6th round DE Ifeadi Odeinigbo is currently listed as the 3rd-string LDE amid reports that he's played well in camp but made mistakes in the first preseason game. Danielle Hunter and Brian Robison are two veterans in front of him.

5th round DT Caleb Brantley broke a finger (his own, not his girlfriend's) a couple of weeks ago and hasn't been practicing. He's apparently back on the field now, but is buried at 4th on the depth chart at DT.

It appears that Kamara and Peterman are my two camp stars, and Dorian Johnson isn't making the progress I expected.

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My rookie report is as follows after one preseason week. The draft spots are mine, not the NFL's.

5th round QB Nathan Peterman is playing well enough that some people are calling to move him up to the #2 QB spot as a rookie. He's currently listed with the 3rd string.

2nd round RB Alvin Kamara is impressing, and appears to be positioning himself for a prominent role in passing situations. He's listed as third string behind Mark Ingram and Adrian Peterson, but is positioned for playing time.

3rd round RB Samaje Perine came out with the first string in the recent game, but had a bad preseason debut for a number of reasons, and was called out by the coaches. He's listed as 3rd string, though.

7th round WR Malachi Dupre was sent to the hospital after being hit in the face after a catch. He's in concussion protocol. He's the 4th string WR at the moment.

3rd round G Dorian Johnson appears to be the third string RG for the Cardinals at the moment.

4th round FS Desmond King is currently the third string FS in San Diego, though reports are that he's in a three-way fight for the starting job, and it's "open". He's avoided the Chargers injury curse so far.

6th round OLB Ejuan Price is currently listed on the 3rd string for the Rams, and I'm not seeing any camp reports about him. It'll be hard for him to beat out Robert Quinn for the starting spot this year, and he needs to beat Matt Longacre out of the #2 spot first.

1st round DE Taco Charlton is listed as the 2nd-string RDE in Dallas behind Tyrone Crawford, and apparently has been pounded by the coaching staff.

6th round DE Ifeadi Odeinigbo is currently listed as the 3rd-string LDE amid reports that he's played well in camp but made mistakes in the first preseason game. Danielle Hunter and Brian Robison are two veterans in front of him.

5th round DT Caleb Brantley broke a finger (his own, not his girlfriend's) a couple of weeks ago and hasn't been practicing. He's apparently back on the field now, but is buried at 4th on the depth chart at DT.

It appears that Kamara and Peterman are my two camp stars, and Dorian Johnson isn't making the progress I expected.

I'm equally disappointed in Johnson... I expected more immediate returns out of him. Oh well. I'm hoping my picks from last year start developing nicely.

As for my picks... I like the flashes a few are showing: Mahomes, Blair Brown, Stacy Coley, Chris Carson, and Zane Gonzalez have all been impressive. I can't say Watkins has looked terrible, but he isn't going to start this year.

1-010: Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (10 KC)
Appears to be locking in the #2 spot in Kansas City and has definitely shown he'll be the future.

2-059: Tanoh Kpassagnon, DE, Villanova (59 KC)
Has flashed some abilities, but definitely has some development to do. KC really needs to lock him into a position, but it seems they are just trying to get another pass rusher on the field in multiple ways at this point. Listed as 2nd string RDE.

3-104: Dorian Johnson, OG, Pittsburgh (115 ARZ)
Remains buried on the depth chart as the #3 RG, which is concerning to me.

4-132: Carlos Watkins, DT, Clemson (142 HOU)
As of most recent depth chart, was moved to 3rd string RDE.
3 tackles in 1 GP in preseason

6-218: Stacy Coley, WR, Miami (219 MIN)
Buried on depth chart, outside 6 at this point.
Looked good with limited touches (5 for 84) and has did some returning so far.

7-222: Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (224 CLE)
In camp battle with Cody Parkey for the starting gig. has made his only FG attempt and both XP.

7-245: Christopher Carson, RB, Oklahoma State (249 SEA)
Not sure where he sits exactly, but with Rawls and Procise out he started against KC. He'll make the team. 21 carries for 92 yards w/ 2 td and 4 rec for 64 yards.

Johnson was a highly ranked prospect who fell to the fourth round of this year's draft simply because of medical concerns, so it is surprising to see him on the cut list. The Cardinals likely hope he will slip through waivers and to their practice squad.