columbia wrote:I suspect there is little chance of this happening (as with all self-generated LGP "rumors"), but I think MT would love to have Avery on the Pens. Especially during the playoffs.

Avery becoming a pen would be enough to cause me to stop watching I think.

Pens fans would have said that about Ruutu had he played for the Flyers before coming to Pittsburgh. Character assessments become quite relative when the object of hatred is on your team.

You're right, if Ruutu played in the East, I would have hated him when he got here, just like I would if they ever got Tucker. Ruutu didn't play in the East though, and he isn't nearly as bad as Avery.

Easton wrote:Avery is one of the only people in the NHL that I can honestly say I never want to see on the Penguins, ever. Never ever. Ever. Now I've said ever too much so it looks like a weird word.

Thankfully, GMs don't make hockey decisions around who the fans want to see on the team. That's why fantasy hockey was invented.

If someone wants to make a hockey argument as to why a certain player - like Avery - would or would not be good on the team, please do. But please remember that whether you like/hate a player on personal level is irrelevant and any GM that operates that way will have a very short career in the NHL. If Shero worried about whether the players were happy with his personnel changes, Armstrong would still be on the team.

I'm pretty sure this thread is a joke, if not then welcome to the bandwagon effect.

In all seriousness to help explain to this poor person who posted this, Recchi awkwardly parted ways with the Penguins and most likely is probably not welcome back. Plus, a grit player? Recchi? Sure in his prime yes, Recchi was. But in his twilight, hardly does he compare to a Ruutu. Plus we've heard previous stories of him being a locker-room cancer, but this could be interpreted as a simple "state of the team" (2005). As for Avery, I share the sentiment of most of the people on this board.

LOUANGOTTI wrote:All right boys and girls- it's become painfully obvious we are lacking grit on this team. Roberts, Malone and Rutto are gone - and along with them - "grit". I just read Recchi may soon be shopped, I just read in SI Avery is wearing out his welcome in Big D. If the price is right and Dallas picks up 1/2 of Averys salary- what do you think about adding these two come February or so?

Can i have the name of your supplier because thats some pretty strong stuff you are smoking. I mean lets bring a guy back that wore out his welcome with this team last time he was here and a guy that rivals the biggest locker rooms cancers in any league, sure lets bring them here. I had an Avery discusion with my one friend last summer right before the free agent period. The only team that could handle Avery is Detriot because there locker room has so many vetern guys that they might be able to keep him in check and that is a BIG IF there.

Easton wrote:Avery is one of the only people in the NHL that I can honestly say I never want to see on the Penguins, ever. Never ever. Ever. Now I've said ever too much so it looks like a weird word.

Thankfully, GMs don't make hockey decisions around who the fans want to see on the team. That's why fantasy hockey was invented.

If someone wants to make a hockey argument as to why a certain player - like Avery - would or would not be good on the team, please do. But please remember that whether you like/hate a player on personal level is irrelevant and any GM that operates that way will have a very short career in the NHL. If Shero worried about whether the players were happy with his personnel changes, Armstrong would still be on the team.

Look up all the issues with Avery and the Stars. The entire locker room is upset. The Stars were a Stanley Cup favorite coming into the year and only made one major acquisition: Sean Avery. They are now at the bottom of the West standings... that's a BIG fall. Is this not hockey related enough?

Stats wise, he has 2 goals and 7 assists in 20 games and ranks 1st in PIMs.That's 3.875M for 9 points and 77 PIMs. That right there is enough reason to say get away. Add in the whole locker room issue and no way.

To be fair, I was for at least looking at picking him up in the offseason until I saw his price tag. Now there is no way I would ever consider it.

As a side note, all of the following players on the Pens have equal or greater production than Avery:

I don't know why I didn't think of this before, but who would have ever thought Recchi and Avery would share a thread title, especially when each was being proposed to be brought in for the same reason.