I've read a few posts on some AT&amp;T wireless forums, where they mentioned that the Unlimited BB plan that both AT&amp;T and Cingular have does not include IM programs such as Verichat. I wanted to verify that you guys were or were not getting charged. Thanks

After reading the posts in thi sthread, I added "Media Net Unlimited", since I plan to use as much bandwidth as it will allow me. It costs $24.99. Now if I can just figure out how to get my TCP working!!

It's all abstract business nonsense anyway. They charge you for what they can get away with charging you for. Bandwidth costs T-mobile the same as it does AT&amp;T, maybe more. T-mobile can't take the risk of angering it's client-base, so they stay true to the meaning of their marketing terms.

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What is this sleep of which you speak?

Most Deaf people I know use T-Mobile's SKII. $30 Unlimited and includes AIM Client. I prefer the BB, specifically my 7290 from ATT, but I pay $46 for unlimited and can't get a chat program included to use Relay Services. I'd pay for VeriChat, but not for the extra out-of-network data overages.

I ought to be talking to them about it, instead of preaching to the choir

cingular charged me data rates of either $0.03/kb or $0.01/kb for using verichat with the wix pay per use feature. not cool. they refunded the charges but removed the feature as well. will now call bb support to see what to do next.

I just learned yesterday about HIP Relay's WAP version: http://207.91.17.54/wrelay.asp
It's slow, but works and because it uses the included BB Browser, the data charges should be included in the unlimited plan as opposed to third-party app data charges.

We won't be ordering pizza with it, but to call hearing friends and family, it should hold up okay.

I just learned yesterday about HIP Relay's WAP version: http://207.91.17.54/wrelay.asp
It's slow, but works and because it uses the included BB Browser, the data charges should be included in the unlimited plan as opposed to third-party app data charges.

We won't be ordering pizza with it, but to call hearing friends and family, it should hold up okay.

Don't forget the free Ramble AIM chat software, which you can use for relay services, if you don't want to pay for VeriChat.

I personally prefer a telnet-based relay service because it is realtime "keypress-at-a-time" operation, just like desktop IP-RELAY. I use Idokorro MobileSSH and point it to "wireless.ip-relay.com" and port 2510.

does anyone know if Verizon charges for verichat usage on their unlimited plan?

No. Verizon and T-Mobile do not charge for any kind of non-email/web data. Modem works on T-Mobile and is unlimited.

Also, if you get BES/MDS hosting at $10-$20 per month, then you don't pay extra for VeriChat. So if you stick to Cingular and spend more than $10 per month on data, just get BES/MDS hosting service at flat $10-$20 per month, and you solve your data problem. (As long as you don't use the modem feature).