A troll would be jealous knowing no one would want a troll's wife, she uglier than him.

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The second woman breaks the subject with hubby, not his wife. She tells him what they've done. She describes what they did last Thursday evening. He recalls that night was way, way hot. That night wife came home and fucked him like she'd never done before.

From there, 2nd woman could start doing the guy, or she could be the "virtuous type' and only do the woman she loves, but feel impelled to describe it all to hubby. Wife never knows they meet.

One day hubby can't take it, listening to it, and he grabs 2nd woman and does her. Some control freak way, maybe does her throat hard. Or maybe he grabs her and spanks her for being such a bad girl. Then he sees the marks on her ass his wife left the night before. 2nd is at least at that time, playing submissive.

2nd woman could change the scheme and meet hubby before her date with wife, instead of after. She could describe what she's going to do.

2nd woman could change the scheme and meet hubby before her date with wife, instead of after. She could describe what she's going to do.

I like this. How about she meets hubby before the date and does him. Then, later, while wifey is going down on her she tells her that she was with a man earlier - wifey gets really turned on by this and starts playing with herself while she's eating girlfriend. When wifey is cumming girlfriend tells her that it was her husband that she screwed earlier. This makes wifey crazy horny because she thinks it's fantasy but later learns that it really happened. She feels betrayed, but conflicted because she's so turned on by the idea of hubby screwing her girlfriend. It's the old 'good for the goose, good for the gander' conundrum and she has to come to terms with it. Hijinks ensue...

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When I think back, I can only think of one of my past partners who was NOT bisexual and in that case we were both young and I can't really be sure today about it...

I don't go seeking this but for whatever reason the women I have gotten involved with were involved with other women but without me being in the sexual events between them.

I'm afraid I have to say I pretty much only get involved with people who are sexually quite confident and I never really chase or pursue as such. It's always about two people with pretty equivalently advanced sexualities getting it on together... I was always told up front there was this other stuff going on and I was always asked whether it was going to make me jealous, which I have to say, it just never ever did. I've never had a relationship actually fail as such, in the sense of falling out of love or attraction or some emotional negativity - it has always been really odd circumstances that suddenly appear: people getting stuck a million miles away because of family catastrophe and staying away and me not being able to leave my contracts. How about tsunami disasters? Happened TWICE! And once I had to go live and work in the US for a few weeks that ended up being years after the Stockmarket crashed.

And I certainly think there is an economic dimension - you need A LOT OF ECONOMIC substance to really provide adequate security to all parties if it is going to turn into a total three-way thing. One woman I was involved with nearly (arranged) got the whole thing close to me also having a male bisexual involved with me - which would have been interesting - before once again just plain external circumstance got in the way. BIG external circumstance.

Now I realize that this is just about every man's fantasy, but can a man (or can most men) really handle this?

I'm trying to think up some ways to spin this idea into hot erotica....

Will the trolls come out if the wife goes out with the girls, and this become heated up?

I'm not sure I understand the thought, jeninforida. My first thought came from real life. Back in college, when things started to get serious with a woman I was dating, she felt the need to make a very tearful confession. She was bisexual and as much as she cared for me, she knew she would never be able to live her life without knowing the touch of another woman. For her, I believe it was a confession of "I can never be truly faithful to you, but I will only be unfaithful with other women." She went on to make it clear she didn't share her men with her women or vice versa (dammit! LOL).

However, that idea seems to match up close to your idea? She's bi. She needs the touch of a woman to feel complete as a person. She doesn't want to share the other woman with her man nor does she want to live without. So what's the resolution? I can imagine the hotness of the hubby being a bit of a cuckold with a twist. She gets dolled up, goes out with her "special friend," leaving him behind with his imagination of what they're doing. I can imagine her coming home to tell him about it - because she knows it thrills him. And they do it, with her smelling like the other woman, the lingering scent of that other woman still on her body, the nature wonder of "am I as good as she is at touching you?"

jeninflorida queried:
now i realize that this is just about every man's fantasy, but can a man (or can most men) really handle this?

i can.

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i'm trying to think up some ways to spin this idea into hot erotica....

will the trolls come out if the wife goes out with the girls, and this become heated up?

that depends entirely on category. such a story isn't after all necessarily LW. it might reasonably be couples, could be romantic, could be gay...you get the idea.

me, i think the logical place for the story to go is she goes out with the girls from the office for a girls' night out and the shy accountant becomes a very different person out of the office and after her 3rd tequila shot...the two go at it in the car, then they get home where hubby's been watching girl/girl porn like every other straight guy, and gets to watch the real thing, then finally participate.

Now I realize that this is just about every man's fantasy, but can a man (or can most men) really handle this?

I'm trying to think up some ways to spin this idea into hot erotica....

Will the trolls come out if the wife goes out with the girls, and this become heated up?

I don't think it's every mans fantasy, but I do think a lot of men who are into porn have it as a fantasy. As for can men handle it, I suppose it depends on the relationship.

As a man with a bisexual wife, yes I can handle it to an extent.

If you are talking about a couple who swing and the wife swings both ways then fair enough. If you are talking about a woman who has two equal partners one male the other female. Then that is not something I could handle.

Some people will say you can't be bisexual and married and polyamoury is the only possibility. But to me you can be bi and faithfully to one sexual partner. Even if we where not into swinging my wife would still be faithful to me. Just as hetro and homosexual people can be faithful.

So it all depends on the bisexuality and how you feel the character explores that side of their life or not.

My opinion on where to take the story, I would suggest that the woman's friends are aware she is bisexual as it has been mentioned in the past. She often goes out with them and sometimes gets very hot dancing with them, but she would not make a move as she would not want to upset her hubby or ruin her friendships. But she does confess her fantasies and getting hot dancing with them to her hubby. Her hubby loves the idea but understands that they are her friends and she does not want to freak them out and make them think she is always perving on them.

Then one night they go out and one of the girls has been dumped by her bf and gets very drunk and at the end of the night tries to take advantage of the star of your story.

Just a thought.

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what if the couple isn't in the swinger community but the wife wants a close couple that they share or play with on the weekends.....?

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I don't think it's every mans fantasy, but I do think a lot of men who are into porn have it as a fantasy. As for can men handle it, I suppose it depends on the relationship.

As a man with a bisexual wife, yes I can handle it to an extent.

If you are talking about a couple who swing and the wife swings both ways then fair enough. If you are talking about a woman who has two equal partners one male the other female. Then that is not something I could handle.

Some people will say you can't be bisexual and married and polyamoury is the only possibility. But to me you can be bi and faithfully to one sexual partner. Even if we where not into swinging my wife would still be faithful to me. Just as hetro and homosexual people can be faithful.

So it all depends on the bisexuality and how you feel the character explores that side of their life or not.

My opinion on where to take the story, I would suggest that the woman's friends are aware she is bisexual as it has been mentioned in the past. She often goes out with them and sometimes gets very hot dancing with them, but she would not make a move as she would not want to upset her hubby or ruin her friendships. But she does confess her fantasies and getting hot dancing with them to her hubby. Her hubby loves the idea but understands that they are her friends and she does not want to freak them out and make them think she is always perving on them.

Then one night they go out and one of the girls has been dumped by her bf and gets very drunk and at the end of the night tries to take advantage of the star of your story.

What if the husband invites his boss to come to dinner. And his boss is a woman. And there's an immediate attraction between his boss and his wife. The two women begin to have clandestine meetings without the husband's knowledge. But when he finds out about the affair, the wife's response is that she's only doing it to advance his career.

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Thereís always the couplesí vacation with a drunken adventure in a hot tub. It could be with or without the husbands present, and in any number combination. Youíll have to decide if the wife is innocent or curious. The innocent, in my opinion, is a bit sexier. Having her not know she likes it goes a long way.

And I would say it isnít all men. There is still those that believe and feel that love is between two people. The tradition gentleman, though rare, isnít quite extinct. I would say as long as the woman is honest and not cheating with the woman, some men can handle it a bit better. Lack of communication is a killer. Just my opinion.

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what if the couple isn't in the swinger community but the wife wants a close couple that they share or play with on the weekends.....?

Ah, there are so many flavors and variations to human desire.

How about this. It's not at all about what she wants, but what she needs. She's driven compulsively to find women, seduce them and get them to induce orgasms in her. But she's happily married to hubby.

She tries to cope with her needs and channel them in directions that are not totally risky or self-destructive. How can she do that?

So instead of just some whim coming out in a drunken stupor, this woman is nearly all the time, obsessively thinking about her needs and how to satisfy them. And we could say sometime about the timeline. Like, the hardest part of the day for her is the afternoon. Many times in the afternoon she's found it impossible not to slip out and go to a gay bar and get picked up by some strange woman.

I'm actually working on a subtle twist to the 'discovering wife is bi-sexual' theme I'm trying like hell to complete for tomorrow's VD contest deadline.

Basically, she has a get out of free card, because of lack of experience before getting married (it's complex getting there, but she has it). She wants to use it, he's upset, but gives in. Turns out the 'lack of experience' was unfinished GF business in college, and she wanted to try a girl, but things get twisted, way twisted...