I notice that the article as it is notes that It is "inconceivable" that Gandalf did not take Glamdring with him back to Valinor, citing Shadowfax's fate as a reason for this. What i wonder is what the connection is? Both are posessions of Gandalf yes, but one is a gentle creature, the prince of horses and the other is a tool for butchery. Considering that Feanor's forging of weapons was one of the first signs of trouble afoot, I would have thought it is at least as conceivable that Gandalf left Glamdring in the care of the elves or even the race of men before taking the ship. Just as Faramir doesnt love the sword for it's sharpness, the people of Valinor probably wouldnt love the sword at all! So this rather long-winded discussion boils down to my beleif that there is some inherent bias in that line and it should be changed to something without such weasel words. Objections? Dr Death 08:20, 2 October 2008 (UTC)