Apple has chosen to build a new data center in North Carolina that will inject a local economy with new jobs and excitement, as the company prepares for its first east coast data center. The Cupertino-based company will likely invest more than $1 billion towards the new data center through 2018.

"North Carolina continues to be a prime location for growing and expanding global technology companies," Perdue said in a statement. "We welcome Apple to North Carolina and look forward to working with the company as it begins providing a significant economic boost to local communities and the state."

The Apple North Carolina facility will have up to 50 full-time employees once construction has been completed, the press release said. Several locations are under consideration, with construction expected to begin immediately after Apple is able to find a suitable location.

In an agreement between Apple and the county, the average wage of employees at the facility must be higher than the standard wage in the county. A $1 billion investment over nine years could help 3,000 jobs in the area, as construction contractors receive plans for the data center.

Cleveland and Catawba counties have been rumored as potential locations for the site, though Apple and state officials have remained silent. The actual use of the data center and its size also remains a mystery, and probably won't be disclosed until construction begins.

Apple already has a 107,000 square-foot facility located in Newark, California.

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Yeah and you can thank the Democrats and fake Republicans for that(illegals). They fight every attempt to crack down on illegal immigration and Obama and his immigration secretary have pushed to halt workplace raids.

It's not Apple's nor North Carolina's fault that the construction industry is plagued with illegals.

quote: Yeah and you can thank the Democrats and fake Republicans for that(illegals).

LOL, I thought real Republicans were all about self responsibility. Anytime I hear a Republican talking about the jobless/homeless, the theme seems to be that the jobless needs to get a better education, and those that do have solid education and are still jobless need to work with the free market forces (ie, reduce their own cost).

It only makes perfect sense that the Republican idea of personal responsibility goes out the window when there is a Democrat in office.

And it doesn't make any sense to consider illegal immigration as a portion of the free market. Republicans are all about a separation of government from the free market, except in the case of illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is a federal legal issue. It is only a free market issue in the case of those who lose jobs to immigrants. But if you truly believe in free market ideals, there really is no such thing as illegal immigration, just a downward push on wages due to environmental forces.

With Obama halting workplace raids, he's actually keeping governments nose out of the free markets business as Republicans claim to want.

But you wouldn't know it if asked a Republican. Why? Because there's no consistency in what they believe when there's a democrat in office.

There is absolutely no link between free markets, government interference in free markets and illegal immigration. This has to be one of the stupidest arguments for illegal immigration or against Republicans that I've ever seen.

A nation only remains a nation if it can identify its citizens. And our nation has minimum wage laws set by the government. You would have done far better to argue against those. That is what illegal immigrants get around.

Illegal immigrants also do not pay taxes while legal citizens do. A legal citizen cannot work for the same wage as an illegal immigrant. Even if they wanted to. Federal law would not allow the employer to pay them that little nor could they survive on the income since they'd be paying taxes on it.

Actually, let me correct you on this. This is actually my point. I do believe there is no intrinsic link between the two.

However, Republicans love to make a platform out in favor of the free market as well as against illegal immigration at the same time.

You're correct that there is no intrinsic link between the two; my point is that the republican argument in favor of the free market and against illegal immigration lacks consistency.

quote: A nation only remains a nation if it can identify its citizens. And our nation has minimum wage laws set by the government. You would have done far better to argue against those. That is what illegal immigrants get around.

Very true, and if you thought about it, you can see how complete trust (as republicans favor) in free market forces tends to undermine these. Free market forces favor cheap labor. If that cheap labor happens to come in the form of illegal immigration, the free market doesn't care. However, Republicans somehow think control of illegal immigration and a completely unfettered free market can coexist- they really can't because control of cheap labor (in the form of illegal immigration and wage laws) becomes a control over the free market.

quote: Illegal immigrants also do not pay taxes while legal citizens do.

As a result, Illegal immigrants are living the republican dream since republicans don't like taxes. So why do republicans want to kick them out? Under the republican ideal, we should all be illegal immigrants.(this is a joke, not an actual argument, since you *seem* to take yourself too seriously, I thought I should inform you)

quote: A legal citizen cannot work for the same wage as an illegal immigrant.

The free market that Republicans believe in doesn't care about this.

quote: Federal law would not allow the employer to pay them that little nor could they survive on the income since they'd be paying taxes on it.

Again, the free market that Republicans claim to believe in doesn't care about this.

What I'm pointing out is that controlling illegal immigration effectively becomes a control over the free market as illegal immigration results in lower costs for business.

You know what republicans call anything that might represent a constraint or control on the free market? Socialism. Wow, and that was a term that we all thought could only be applied to democrats.

Well the concept of minimum wage which is a price floor, is not a free market idea. So I guess there are 2 obvious solutions to this problem.

1)Somehow kick every illegal immigrant out of the United States2)Eliminate minimum wage thereby allowing U.S. workers to reduce their costs and compete with illegal immigrants.

Option 1 seems impossible. In option 2 if americans take these low paying jobs it could drive millions of illegals out of the U.S. because companies might as well hire citizens since there is no cost advantage to hiring illegals.

I did not advocate for the minimum wage. All it does is raise prices and cost jobs. Rarely do you see a Republican at the head of an effort to raise the minimum wage. Because its pointless. Wages go up and either prices go up or employers cut staff or hours.

quote: But if you truly believe in free market ideals, there really is no such thing as illegal immigration, just a downward push on wages due to environmental forces. With Obama halting workplace raids, he's actually keeping governments nose out of the free markets business as Republicans claim to want.

Exactly what part of ILLEGAL do you not understand in "illegal immigration?"

quote: But you wouldn't know it if asked a Republican. Why? Because there's no consistency in what they believe when there's a democrat in office.

That road certainly goes both ways when a Republican is in charge too:

quote: Exactly what part of ILLEGAL do you not understand in "illegal immigration?"

I understand the whole thing. What I'm saying is that Republicans don't understand (or don't care to understand) is that it effectively controls the free market they so vehemently believe in not controlling.

quote: That road certainly goes both ways when a Republican is in charge too:

I agree with that 100%, however your subsequent list needs some adjustmnts.

1) Democrats can't help but spend in a deficit right now, it's what the economy needs.2)It is definitely regretable that the Democrats in office ignored their supporters. I'm extremely disappointed in Obama for not reversing the standpoint of the Bush administration on this topic.3)Republicans made it a goal to capture Osama, not Democrats. This is not so much whining as it is pointing out a Republican failure.4)I'm not in favor of illegal immigration or shipping jobs overseas, no matter who's doing it.5)And? Granted Democrats made a promise they probably couldn't keep in saying we would pull out quickly, but we still are pulling out.6) Yeah, I agree, this happens all over the place. It's just symptom of politics.7)Again, seems to be another symptom of politics.

quote: What I'm saying is that Republicans don't understand (or don't care to understand) is that it effectively controls the free market they so vehemently believe in not controlling.

Obviously you fail to comprehend that "Free Markets" and "Illegal Immigration" have nothing to do with each other. One is a systematic economic ideology and the other is ruled by LAW. But, as FIT said, neither party cares - not because of what you so freely want to believe about free markets - but because of free VOTES (illegal or not).

quote: 1) Democrats can't help but spend in a deficit right now, it's what the economy needs.

Surely you jest! You mean that "Stimulus" Package that was ramrodded so fast through Congress that nobody even READ the damned thing? Where later Democrats, including Obama himself acted SHOCKED that AIG bonuses were hidden in there?

2). Glad you are man enough to admit it.

quote: 3). Republicans made it a goal to capture Osama, not Democrats. This is not so much whining as it is pointing out a Republican failure.

No, Democrats wanted to get Osama as well - they served on the Senate Intelligence right alongside Republicans during the Bush years. The difference is that Democrats don't ever want to stick their noses out and make a RISK of failure. That's why they are careful to word everything so nothing will come back to haunt them (case in point, Pelosi's handling of the CIA waterboarding memo).

4). Me three.

quote: 5)And? Granted Democrats made a promise they probably couldn't keep in saying we would pull out quickly, but we still are pulling out.

Guess you missed the memo about the Obama administration and Democrat-run congress increasing military funding for Iraq then - as well as leaving the timetable open for staying in there.

6) & 7) - then don't say ONLY Republicans are prone to changing viewpoints (or not addressing what they championed being for/against) depending on who is in office.

Oh good grief. And I forgot one of the biggest whining of all during the Bush years by Democrats: taking vacations when the economy was so sour back then. Obama Hawaii vacation, NYC "Date Night", and now a vacation in France after the Middle East. All in just four months in office when even as Obama himself said we are in the worst economic peril in our history and no Democrat utters even a peep about all this vacationing and showboating. And all the while GM dealers being singled out for closure by a Car Czar whose background is being a lawyer and who never ran a business in his life, let alone being involved in the automotive industry.

Oh of course! I just rattled off some topics off the top of my head that this guy seemed to have forgotten about Democrats doing. When he rattled off about Republicans not caring about things depending on who was in office, it was game on. Give me a little time and I can MORE than make up for what he said (although I think I already made my rebuttal point). But give the dude some credit: he admitted that a let down is a let down about Obama.