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LMAO... just be sure to check the ages. Some groups have big age gaps between the members like this one:The youngest members just turned 14 and 15 while the oldest member is 23, but guessing which is which isn't always as easy as it sounds.

Glad to have you aboard. We'll convert you one day, even if it means resorting to more pictures In the meantime, I recommend this music video from a goddess on Earth named Jun Hyo Seong. I distinctly remember the first time I saw this video. One of the few times I've caught myself with my mouth hanging open.

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If you can't enjoy a song without singing along, I can understand your point. Otherwise, it's pop music. The lyrics aren't gonna have much substance either way. Is there anything that follows the for starters or is that it? Not trying to be defensive; just curious what turns you away.

In other news, LABOUM's latest single:Kinda catchy, but not something I'd go out of my way to listen to.

I see. That's fair. Well you're welcome to stay and check out the videos that get posted!

I'm not demanding it of you or anything, but something you may try is to watch a captivating video once or twice and listen to the song later in your car or something. You may then find it more enjoyable to hear because the memory of the audio is associated with the video in your brain. DDU-DU DDU-DU in the first post is a perfect example from my experience; the video is flashy and colorful, and the "finger gun" choreo during the chorus is fun.

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Initial D is most known music-wise for Eurobeat, which is the high energy techno songs with vocals. See: The(1) holy(2) trinity(3) for examples. Initial D is an anime, though, which means some j-pop in the soundtrack is almost inevitable. I've never actually seen the show.

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I'll agree to that but only the current Girl's Day, with the current 4 members doing concepts more on the sexy side. Pretty much everything from "Expectation" onward.Their best song though imo is "Something" which I already posted on page 1

I didn't watch the whole thing, I was initially somewhat upset with the whole AKB48 collab. I watched the first couple of episodes just to see the Japanese girls get told they suck by the judges which I wasn't disappointed by, and also to see the initial talent pool. The vocal talent on display was far inferior to what was seen in season 1 of Produce 101. Yeah a few girls could sing well but nobody was close to Sejeong or Yeonjeong. Yuri seems to be the best voice in IZ*ONE but she's still nowhere near those two. But I did notice the two Starship kids in their initial evaluation. They've got the visuals, they're tall, they can sing and dance well enough and have decent charisma and stage presence for such a young age, so I was sure they would make into IZ*ONE. I predict Yujin will be the next Suzy, while she doesn't look exactly like her, she totally gives off the same vibe and has enough vocal talent to have a solo career similar to Suzy's, though I suspect Starship will put her into a group with Wonyoung once IZ*ONE disbands first.

I still don't like the fact that a lot of times on these Produce shows popularity often plays a bigger part than talent and good performances in the public voting; happens way too often that a team gets robbed. Rumor team should've won the concept eval for sure in Produce 48, just like Yeonjeong's team should've beaten Somi's team on their ITNW performances in Produce 101, especially with Yeonjeong totally nailing Tayeon's and Jessica's ad-libs at the end of the song. As for IZ*ONE having a bright future the group is a temporary group like all the Produce groups, here though it will last 2 and a half years so it's a lot better than I.O.I who only lasted like 7 months. There's no doubt that if I.O.I would have been a permanent group they would be dominating among girl groups, there was too much talent and visuals there. But surprisingly none of the groups that integrated I.O.I members went on to be very popular. In fact I would says that Chung Ha, whose company decided to debut her as a solo artist, is the most successful I.O.I member these days.

Plastic surgery is much rarer these days, it's not like 10 years ago. It's more frowned upon now, plus Korean makeup has made huge strides in the last 4-5 years. As for not understanding the lyrics, that's a poor excuse since other than SM all the other companies put English subs on their Youtube videos, you just gotta hit the CC button. There's also some songs that have English versions like Red Velvets "Bad Boy" or my favorite Kpop Christmas song which is totally appropriate for this time of the year (TTS is the best sub-unit ever btw):

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A group of middle schoolers visited our school and one girl said she'd like to go to Korea to see her favorite band. I asked the name and she told "BTS". Initially I thought she said Beatles.
Finally times have changed

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I don't listen to KPop, but I do watch Running Man (religiously). They have KPop artists on all the time. TWICE was on a few weeks ago. I'll die a happy man if I never hear the DU-DU-DU song again. They went through a New Face phase for a while there, and it was a welcome respite.

And it is always the weirdest thing when the idols do their dances. Like, the second the music starts - even if it is 34.68 seconds in - their eyes glass over and they robotically perform the dance in perfect choreography. Then the music stops and it takes a few second for the light to return to their eyes and for them to realize where they are. I never believed in mind control before I saw that.

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MAMA is such a joke now. M-Net just gives undeserved awards to their own groups. Even the winning groups themselves are embarrassed and barely celebrate their win. IZ*ONE winning female rookie award over (G)I-DLE is already pretty ridiculous but Wanna One winning male group of the year after the year BTS had is just nonsensical.

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MAMA is such a joke now. M-Net just gives undeserved awards to their own groups. Even the winning groups themselves are embarrassed and barely celebrate their win. IZ*ONE winning female rookie award over (G)I-DLE is already pretty ridiculous but Wanna One winning male group of the year after the year BTS had is just nonsensical.

so it's not nice

Man I've tried time and time again to get into KPop. I used to be into JPop. The Western culture is usually pretty weird about it so instead of having good recommendations I get "sexy videos." Someone help.

I mean don't get me wrong BTS still won 2 Daesangs (prestigious Grand Prize awards) at MAMA for album of the year and artist or the year so they definitely got the recognition they deserved but still if you're gonna have a best male group category and have BTS as a nominee then they should probably win considering they won album of the year and artist of the year. Yeah MAMAMOO always seem to get shafted, but this year is just ridiculous because for me they were probably the female group that put out the best music this year, even if I didn't love their latest song the other 3 they dropped this year were all amazing:

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Man I've tried time and time again to get into KPop. I used to be into JPop. The Western culture is usually pretty weird about it so instead of having good recommendations I get "sexy videos." Someone help.

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BLACKPINK doing a Christmas medley, including the Jingle Bell Rock bit from Mean Girls I wish there were a HQ version of these performances.
Tiffany Young (of Girls' Generation/SNSD) - Peppermint
This isn't really Christmas-themed, but it happened today! A few TWICE and a few Red Velvet doing a song/dance cover of an OG kpop song.

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Incredible. Just before the year ends they put this hit out. When they're not given garbage with retarded engrish and forced to follow generic pop trends, TVXQ and JYJ are in a whole different league from regular normie kpop. This track is very reminiscent of 2009/10 kpop, when kpop was at its best.

I'm into hip hop, too. Well I haven't really followed it as closely for a few years, but it was my genre of choice before. Ordering by "last modified," it looks like my music folder's most recent hip hop entry was Ghostface's Lost Tapes album... in October I was following Joe Budden's podcast for a bit, but it's like 2 hours a pop and my attention span is too fragile.

BTS is no joke. They're pretty much synonymous with "kpop" as far as any non-fan is concerned.

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Allow me to gush for a moment. BLACKPINK will be on some USA TV shows next week!(!!!!)

* Late Show on 11 Feb
* Good Morning America on 12 Feb
* Strahan & Sara on 15 Feb

Ever since I became a fan, I thought that BP in particular had the look and sound required to go worldwide. Kinda surreal to see it coming true! They'll be touring in the USA as well this year, but no dates announced yet. I just hope their songs don't take a Western turn as far as production goes. Their collab with Dua Lipa was pretty forgettable.