There's a huge difference between the Summit and the Horizon and while they are both pretty much one bid leagues the Horizon views itself as being far ahead of the Summit. Note that the Horizon has had months to name a 10th school to replace Butler but haven't. They dont seem particularly keen on adding any of the schools in the eastern wing of the Summit or the NEC's Robert Morris at this time--I doubt they would take them all in if the Summit imploded.

There's a huge difference between the Summit and the Horizon and while they are both pretty much one bid leagues the Horizon views itself as being far ahead of the Summit. Note that the Horizon has had months to name a 10th school to replace Butler but haven't. They dont seem particularly keen on adding any of the schools in the eastern wing of the Summit or the NEC's Robert Morris at this time--I doubt they would take them all in if the Summit imploded.

The reason for the hold is that Evansville said that they don't feel they can compete in the MVC and might to re-join the Horizon(MwCC) when they were in it.

If Evansville left the MVC for the Horizon I could see two ideal situations---the MVC picks up St Louis or another Midwestern private left out by the Catholic 7 ---OR--- adding Eastern Illinois. Eastern Illinois may not make a whole lot of sense at first but here is what it does--it gives the MVFC an 11th fb member w/o stealing a school from the Summit who already plays MVFC which means North Dakota can join the Summit/MVFC. The MVC is left stable and so is the Summit.

There's a huge difference between the Summit and the Horizon and while they are both pretty much one bid leagues the Horizon views itself as being far ahead of the Summit. Note that the Horizon has had months to name a 10th school to replace Butler but haven't. They dont seem particularly keen on adding any of the schools in the eastern wing of the Summit or the NEC's Robert Morris at this time--I doubt they would take them all in if the Summit imploded.

The reason for the hold is that Evansville said that they don't feel they can compete in the MVC and might to re-join the Horizon(MwCC) when they were in it.

If Evansville left the MVC for the Horizon I could see two ideal situations---the MVC picks up St Louis or another Midwestern private left out by the Catholic 7 ---OR--- adding Eastern Illinois. Eastern Illinois may not make a whole lot of sense at first but here is what it does--it gives the MVFC an 11th fb member w/o stealing a school from the Summit who already plays MVFC which means North Dakota can join the Summit/MVFC. The MVC is left stable and so is the Summit.

If/when the hole opens in the MVC, I could see UW-Milwaukee, S.Dakota St., or Ill-Chicago. Murray St. would be my top choice if they would let the MVC have 11 fb members.

I think the C7 will add, Xavier, Butler, St.Louis, Creighton, either take VCU(public) for their talent and market or Dayton if they refuse to have a public.

Anyways, I believe that football can be re-sponsored in the future, if the WAC can find more members, like the Dakota schools or Southern Utah or Northern Colorado (or any other school within the West Midwest and/or South Central areas).

Anyways, I believe that football can be re-sponsored in the future, if the WAC can find more members, like the Dakota schools or Southern Utah or Northern Colorado (or any other school within the West Midwest and/or South Central areas).

That ship has passed. If the WAC were able to save football with those schools, they would have joined when there was still a benefit to the WAC, like getting in on the Forgotten5 BCS bid. Instead, the WAC brought in basketball schools like CSUB, UVU, etc.

At this point, any talk of the Dakota schools joining the WAC would probably be best suited for the Dream Conferences thread since the WAC didn't want those schools and those schools didn't make any effort to join the WAC.

Can anyone tell me what happened to New Mexico's men's soccer squad? They are on the MPSF site and UNM lists them as a sport (says they're ranked 9th on the MPSF site). I was expecting the MWC to take over the sport when they added SDSU back giving them (by my count) five members (SJSU, SDSU, UNLV, AFA, UNM). Also SMU and Tulsa play men's soccer so if they expanded with them they'd have a couple more.

EDIT: Just found it, UNM joining C-USA for soccer announced last september. Still wonder if the MWC adds SDSU and another soccer playing school would they take over the sport.

Like in 2-5 years time, only the newly-expanded teams of Cal State-Bakersfield, Utah Valley, Texas-Pan American, Chicago State and Grand Canyon will survive; while New Mexico State would either join C-USA or re-join back to either the Big West or the Sun Belt and Seattle possibly re-joining the WCC. If that would happen, the WAC would do more research on expanding more teams of the Western region from D-II, like the schools within the PacWest, the RMAC and the CCAA.

Memphis, SMU, UCF are definitely joining the Big East. Tulsa may follow them as well. They will play alongside Connecticut, Temple, USF, and Cincinnati, so the Big East will have enough members.

C-USA will have UAB, FIU, Marshall, Charlotte, Old Dominion, and Kentucky, South Carolina, and New Mexico as affiliates. If Tulsa stays that gives them nine. Belmont is currently independent but is obviously within the footprint.

Only five Mountain West schools sponsor the sport. SDSU will likely stay with the Pac 12 since only five of their schools field teams. I could see UNM leaving C-USA since travel would be better in the WAC.

Is it official? And if so, I believe that the WAC would expand to some land within the western side of the South Central and Midwest areas within the future as an aspiring non-football (or D I-AAA) all-sports-sponsored conference. Plus, it might grab some of those from D-II.

Is it official? And if so, I believe that the WAC would expand to some land within the western side of the South Central and Midwest areas within the future as an aspiring non-football (or D I-AAA) all-sports-sponsored conference. Plus, it might grab some of those from D-II.[/quote]

Oh, ok. But like I said before, and just in case UMKC does join, I believe that the WAC would expand to some land within the western side of the South Central U.S. (Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas) and Midwest U.S. (North Dakota, South Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri) areas within the future as an aspiring non-football (or D I-AAA) all-sports-sponsored conference. Plus, it might grab some of those from D-II.

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