originally posted by: FlyersFan
300 Million Extremist Muslims. The 75% of Muslims who are moderate become irrelevant. The 300 Million can inflict heavy damage on the world. Yeah
... she got it right. It's something to be concerned about. And she backed it up with a whole lot of history of this happening in other cultures
... like Japan World War II and the Russians etc etc ....

300 million extremist I would love to see proof of that. If there were 300 million of them they could basically take over any nation they wanted. The
Heritage Foundation just pulls facts out of their ass.

This is just a "guesstimate" from all foreign friendly and enemy intelligence services

300 million is about right I'd say, if we look at how many Muslims are living In Western society and the number of extremists alone arrested in these
countries alone in other countries outside the problem would be far greater, just because there are 300 million all over the world does not mean they
could take over a country at all, perhaps you should rethink that one over

All of this because of overly optimistic rose tinted immigration policies. The Muslims I know who live in my country do not want to integrate, they
want the benefits of a modern society sure, but they do not want to live by our laws or accept our cultural identity.

I would be able to say this about most of the Mexicans I know and I have known a lot. At one time we employed 900 plus all mexican.

I agree, but if the past 10 years have taught us ANYTHING, it would be that we cannot be the world police. We cannot force other countries to live as
we do

What has worked the best throughout time is infiltering of ideas into the young. If there were no open war it could be done pretty much the way many
parts of the world was taken by Christianity throughout history. Pulling their beliefs into yours and giving it back in small doses especially to the
young...

Fight a war without weapons with intensive propaganda alone over a long period of time.

If one day I decided to uproot and relocate to Japan from my own country (England) why the hell would I be singing the praises of the UK in my
Japanese community if I'd left the damned Island in the first place, it just boggles the mind? I'd be flying my Japanese flag proudly if I was
living there!

that doesn't mean you would no longer care about anyone back in the UK would it.

Great, so we have finally found the Evidence that Iraq and Saddam orchestrated 9/11? Can you give me a link so I can check it out for myself? At least
now we can justify the deaths of roughly 1 million innocent Iraqi's, hey you sadistic SOB?

Also, another thing that needs to be said here is that were actually not talking about “radical Islam” or Shariah here.

All Shariah is is (no pun intended) religious law.

Saudi Arabia practices their version of Shariah, that’s their right if they want to.

What we are talking about are the VIOLENT extremists who want to impose their religion violently on others, the Saudis, though they practice an
extreme form of Shariah, don’t do this, in-fact they are American allies.

So this 25 percent thing is nonsense.

I lived in a Muslim community, we use to interface with Salafi and always argued with them and their extreme version of Shariah, but they weren’t
violent, like these characters today.

That’s the issue here, not Shariah but the violence and compulsion issue is what is in question.

I'd care, of course. But, I wouldn't be bashing the USA or its policies either. The country that made me a citizen, offered me refuge and gave me a
college education.

I personally bash it's policies all the time, that is part of why she is here. Loving this country and wanting to be here in no way takes away my
caring for other people and what happens in their countries.

Gabriel used to tell audiences that Hezbollah was the group that terrorized her family for the seven years between 1975 and 1982. She stopped
making this claim after people objected, pointing out that Hezbollah was formed after she left Lebanon, as a direct result of the Israeli invasion and
occupation of 1982.

And whats with her bottom lip, it's almost hanging by her chin, what a disgusting woman.

Gabriel used to tell audiences that Hezbollah was the group that terrorized her family for the seven years between 1975 and 1982. She stopped
making this claim after people objected, pointing out that Hezbollah was formed after she left Lebanon, as a direct result of the Israeli invasion and
occupation of 1982.

And whats with her bottom lip, it's almost hanging by her chin, what a disgusting woman.

Lets look at the current quagmire in the Middle East, who created that mess and the resultant militant groups that have come about from that mess?

...

No. The religion itself created the radicals. In case you didn't know, the first 2 large wars that the United States had to wage against other
nations after becoming a union were the First Barbary War of 1801-1805 and the Second Barbary war 1815-1816.

First Barbary War

The First Barbary War (1801–1805), also known as the Tripolitan War or the Barbary Coast War, was the first of two wars fought between the United
States and the Northwest African Berber Muslim states known collectively as the Barbary States. These were the Ottoman provinces of Tripoli, Algiers,
and Tunis, which were enjoying a large autonomy, as well as the independent Sultanate of Morocco.[1] The war was fought because U.S. President
Thomas Jefferson refused to pay the high tributes demanded by the Barbary states and because they were seizing American merchant ships and enslaving
the crews for high ransoms. It was the first declared war the United States fought on foreign land and seas.
... In March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji
Abdul Rahman Adja). When they enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador
replied:

It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the
faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise. He said, also, that the man
who was the first to board a vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every sailor
held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth; which usually struck such terror into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.[21]
...

The Barbary States were a collection of North African states, many of which practiced state-supported piracy in order to exact tribute from weaker
Atlantic powers. Morocco was an independent kingdom, Algiers, Tunis, and Tripoli owed a loose allegiance to the Ottoman Empire. The United States
fought two separate wars with Tripoli (1801–1805) and Algiers (1815–1816), although at other times it preferred to pay tribute to obtain the
release of captives held in the Barbary States.
...

Again a show that radicals are following the footsteps of Mohammed to the dot. The really worrying part is not the numbers of radicals, but the
numbers of radicals that claim to be moderates. Remember that the spread of Islam must be done by any means necessary, including lying and using
deception.

Lying in Islam

By Abdullah Al Araby

Like most religions, Islam in general, forbids lying. The Quran says, "Truly Allah guides not one who transgresses and lies." Surah 40:28. In the
Hadith, Mohammed was also quoted as saying, "Be honest because honesty leads to goodness, and goodness leads to Paradise. Beware of falsehood because
it leads to immorality, and immorality leads to Hell."

However, unlike most religions, within Islam there are certain provisions under which lying is not simply tolerated, but actually encouraged. The
book "The spirit of Islam," by the Muslim scholar, Afif A. Tabbarah was written to promote Islam. On page 247, Tabbarah stated: "Lying is not always
bad, to be sure; there are times when telling a lie is more profitable and better for the general welfare, and for the settlement of conciliation
among people, than telling the truth. To this effect, the Prophet says: 'He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among
people, supports good or says what is good."
...

That's a big problem, because not only can radicals hide using deception and making non-believers think they are moderates, but moderates themselves
can pay a high price because of this deception since you can't be sure whether someone who calls himself/herself a moderate is in reality a
radical.

BTW, I am not promoting hatred to moderate Muslims, but the facts and evidence can't be ignored either.

This content community relies on user-generated content from our member contributors. The opinions of our members are not those of site ownership who maintains strict editorial agnosticism and simply provides a collaborative venue for free expression.