it seems from what i witnessed that everyone is already infected. it takes over when you die, depending on how u die also it seems. but ya once you die u then start to turn is my guess. there were some hints throughout, and the one i noticed the most is when glenn and daryl were examining randall.

oh and this ep was still cray. and i feel rick started to become more of a bad a.ss when he shot both those people dead, point blank in the bar. earlier rick would not have been able to do that.

Hate to break it to you... But I didn't hate the first half... And I sure as fukk haven't loved the second.

And neither has to do with how bad the last 15 minutes was last night.

The second half of the second season has been, by far, the best handful of episodes of the entire series. And the last 15 minutes of last nights episode were GREAT. Aside from Carl randomly being there to k!ll Shane.

Fot such a huge moment... It was sloppily acted, retardely written, and lazily set up... Oh, and ameatuerishly Directed/Shot.

Pretty much everything.

i think it was a little bit lazy... they walked around for like hours and then ended up wityhin eye sight of the farm? haha.. but i actually thought the cinematography was on point.. the pulled back shots of Shane and Rick in the field were eerie, i liked them.. i cant believe Shane let Rick get close enough to attack him... overall i thought it was pretty good

it doesnt make sense to turn after u die being bitten should be the only way and if it was airborn u should turn before u die

i feel it makes some sense. they're using it as some biological process thats complicated in how they turn. i see it as its airborne, and everybody is already infected, but untill the heart stops beating the process doesnt start. maybe something in the body can f!ght it off enough till you die, or some people might actually be immune to it.

Shane has no effect on whether I watch the show or not. Yes, he helped keep it interesting, but it'll be just as interesting without him.

i agree. i think its ridiculous people are saying shane made the show....he was an ignorant prick and an as*hole almost all of the time. he was jealous of rick because he has a family with lori and carl and he was in love with lori. i thought last nights episode was awesome and one of the best episodes so far. glad to see rick finally did what he had to do and got rid of shane.

Shane was about to k!ll her and Rick walked past him and took charge. The exact same thing Daryl did in last weeks episode. I Rick wouldn't have stepped up Shane would have taken care of business and put a bullet in the girls head, just as if Daryl wouldn't have stepped up Rick would have done it.

Funny thing is, when Rick steps up and takes the spotlight from Shane, Shane is labeled a coward. When Daryl steps up and takes the spotlight from Rick, Rick is labeled some good hearted noble man.

The only problem I have with that logic is that Shane started that whole thing in the barn. Going off and making this epic speech, and when the time came to lead an practice what he was preaching, he folded, so Rick took that spotlight. To me that's the difference as to why Rick gets a pass on not being able to pull the trigger as to Shane getting stoned for no being able too.

i liked shane's character but knew he was gonna die this season..when randall told him where his group was, i was hoping shane was gonna pay them a visit and k!ll a few of them before dying

Jacc Blacc said:

when shane was dead what was that thing happening??? looked like a alien having a feeding frenzy

or was it a camera view of zombies nearby having some sort of mental connection with shane??

im starting to think the virus aint a virus...its a parasite/alien type thing that MOST but not all of the humans already have (i say most because of the scene with all those dead people in the cars but they werent zombies...just dead people in cars with no crash marks and no sign of head trauma...unless that was a plothole) and after you die it takes over your mind like a parasite taking over its host

nah man that was obviously just something to show what's happening to shane's body and how the virus was taking over

and as far as the car scene

TVLINE | This does raise the question about the dead bodies in the season-opening traffic jam ó why hadnít they all been turned?
I think if you go back and watch that [sequence you'll see] we were very careful to have them be in cars that were in accidents, so the brain wouldíve had trauma. Or they had some kind of wounds somewhere on their heads to show that their brains had been k!lled, like somebody came across and k!lled them. We knew that we were building to this throughout the entire season.

i think its safe to say that dr jenners message is that everyone is already infected, they turn when they die, thats my guess anyways. my question though is; if this is true, why do some turn way quicker after dying? what about those hundreds dead on the freeway and whatnot?