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Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

Cool thread idea: Let's lock Coopdog and hoosierguy in a thread where they can only talk to (and insult) one another. Charge a one time, $5 fee for other posters to watch the carnage. Set up a pot where people could donate money, and if it reaches a certain number, throw OlBlu into the fray to **** both of them off.

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Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

I still don't think that Zeller will make an immediate impact in the NBA. He just does not have an NBA body right now. Mbwake was abusing him. Can you imagine Zeller going up against the Pacers' front court?

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

I just can't work myself up over this loss at all. I am so indifferent towards it.

That Michigan State game told me everything I need to know about this team when the chips are down. I don't care that they got caught a little flat footed after a week off.

But weren't the chips down last night? We're playing for a Big 10 championship. That was a very important game.

We play great against elite competition like Michigan, MSU, or OSU, but we seem to have a problem playing down against teams that aren't as hyped such as Illinois, Minnesota, or Butler. That pattern worries me in a Sweet 16 game against a non-elite team. I worry that someone could catch us off guard.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

I mean of course the chips are down in every B1G game, but at the same time, I can see why we lost, a week lay off after the biggest win in the past decade maybe for IU in terms of just wow did that really happen and damn this team is for real for real. Minny needed that game, they've been stewing since BTown. I don't know I just can't get worked up. Usually I would be, but what can I say. I just didn't really care about that game. We're still up a game in the most difficult conference in America.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

I mean of course the chips are down in every B1G game, but at the same time, I can see why we lost, a week lay off after the biggest win in the past decade maybe for IU in terms of just wow did that really happen and damn this team is for real for real. Minny needed that game, they've been stewing since BTown. I don't know I just can't get worked up. Usually I would be, but what can I say. I just didn't really care about that game. We're still up a game in the most difficult conference in America.

I don't think it really matters in the long run. As long as they don't lose either of their remaining home games, which I don't think they will, they still should be in line for the #1 seed in Indy.

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Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

I have rarely been disappointed with Cody, but last night we needed him to hang with Mbwake and to just abuse Mbwake's backup stiff, and it didn't happen in the least. Part of it was not getting him the ball, part of it was him not getting in position to get the ball in a place to do damage. Watford not really showing up until the last minute didn't help either. I never thought we'd get beat on the boards like THAT. Plus we get into ruts where we don't take care of the ball, which really was a key both at Illinois, at Minnesota, and home vs. Wisconsin. Just a forgettable night. I think another Gopher 60% free throw shooter just rattled in two more free throws...

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Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

Minnesota shot a horrendous 4-20 from beyond the arc. This could have been much worse.

Except for the fact that they got the offensive rebounds on the 16 shots that they missed! OK, I'm exaggerating, but how many times did it look like there was going to be a shot clock violation but they threw up an unanswered prayer, and then got an offensive rebound? Yuck...

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Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

I still don't think that Zeller will make an immediate impact in the NBA. He just does not have an NBA body right now. Mbwake was abusing him. Can you imagine Zeller going up against the Pacers' front court?

Freaking Elliot Eliason was abusing him.

This is why the NBA drives me crazy sometimes. They're all about drafting on potential now and don't even care if said prospects are polished enough to compete at the next level. We might lose Zeller prematurely because of the "win now" and "all about potential" mentality that's taken over the sport. We wouldn't be the first, either, and that's why the quality of NBA basketball has taken such a nosedive the last couple decades.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

This is why the NBA drives me crazy sometimes. They're all about drafting on potential now and don't even care if said prospects are polished enough to compete at the next level. We might lose Zeller prematurely because of the "win now" and "all about potential" mentality that's taken over the sport. We wouldn't be the first, either, and that's why the quality of NBA basketball has taken such a nosedive the last couple decades.

I don't agree with that at all. Unless you meant to say the quality of NCAA basketball has taken a nosedive.

Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

The bottom line is that players leave college before they are dominant college players, hurting the college game, arriving in the NBA before they are ready to contribute there, which hurts the NBA game as they have to learn on the job. Thus I think both have suffered from early entry.

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Re: Indiana University Athletics Thread 2012-2013

The bottom line is that players leave college before they are dominant college players, hurting the college game, arriving in the NBA before they are ready to contribute there, which hurts the NBA game as they have to learn on the job. Thus I think both have suffered from early entry.

I don't agree. I think the NBA is as strong right now, as it ever has been. Is every rookie coming into the league ready to contribute? No, but a lot of them are, and spending at least 1 season at the college level doesn't really seem to make any difference.

Of the 25 (counting Rondo) 2013 All-Stars, there were 5 players who came straight out of high school. LeBron James, Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, Dwight Howard, and Tyson Chandler all never spent 1 minute playing college basketball. Are they worse as NBA players for it? I'm not sure you can make that argument.

7 more of the All-Stars spent just 1 year in college, a few of whom did so only because the rules changed and they couldn't join those 5 high schoolers. Carmelo Anthony, Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, Chris Bosh, Luol Deng, Jrue Holiday, and Zach Randolph left after one season of college basketball. Durant, Irving, and Holiday almost assuredly didn't need that year that was forced on them.

There were 9 All-Stars who spent 2 years playing in college. Rajon Rondo, Dwyane Wade, Paul George, Brook Lopez, Blake Griffin, Chris Paul, LaMarcus Aldridge, James Harden, and Russell Westbrook have all had a pretty good impact on the NBA game early into their careers.

Joakim Noah is the only 2013 All-Star who spent 3 years in school. Tim Duncan and David Lee are the only All-Stars who used all 4 years of their eligibility. Tony Parker played professionally in France.

21 out of the 25 All-Stars came into the league as underclassmen or high school players. I'm failing to see how letting players start getting paid to do something that someone is willing to pay them for, is making the league worse.