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I have about $20,000 after tax $ in my 401k. I have about $10000 I am paying on a PLUS Loan at about 7%. Can I withdraw the $10000 from my 401 K to save paying the higher interest rate on my Parent Loans? Would my 401k have a penalty or growth suspension?

Could you please clarify your first sentence, do you have a Roth 401k? 401k contributions are pretax deferrals unless it is a Roth 401(k).

You can not take money out of the 401k unless you are at retirement age as per your plan document. If you have a loan feature in your 401(k) plan you could take a loan, however you can only borrow up to $50,000 or 50% of your vested balance, whichever is less. In your example you could borrow $10,000 if the $20,000 is fully vested. Your summary plan description will provide the specifics. Payments are made through salary deferral with interest usually at Prime plus a small percentage, such as 1-3%. Again, you will need to check in your plan document to see if deferral contributions can still be made when you are making loan payments. Please call me if you would like to discuss further.

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It is a my employer 401K we have had since 1980. I had put pretax $ in it. Go figure. I was young and not so financially focused. I think if I take a loan my full account stops creating growth for 6 months. Which may not be a big deal right now. Wouldn't it make sense to offer older adults the option to pull from their ira or 401ks to help pay their kids/grandkids higher education costs, with no penalty? Well that is one for the politicians, I guess.

C, Whether to take monies as a loan vs. leave the monies invested depends on the opportunity costs of the loan. Disclosure: The posted information is for informational purposes only. This message does not constitute an offer to sell or a solicitation of an offer to buy any security. All opinions and estimates constitute Karp Capital's judgment as of the date of the report and are subject to change without notice. Accordingly, no representation or warranty, expressed or otherwise, is made to, and no reliance should be placed on, the fairness, accuracy, completeness or timeliness of the information contained herein. Securities offered through Financial Telesis Inc., member SIPC/FINRA. Financial Telesis Inc. and Karp Capital Management are not affiliated companies.

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Hi,
You have another alternative which I would suggest you look into. You can borrow up to 50% of your 401(k) assets, up to a limit, and repay it back to yourself over 4 years. The pluses here are that when you pay yourself back you are also paying yourself interest on the loan amount. The downside is if you have a separation of service event at work, you would be required to make a complete payment, and lose your 4 year repayment window. You need to speak to your HR person for the correct paperwork for these distributions.
Good luck.

Thanks. We have borrowed from our 401k before and actually ended up paying ourselves back a higher interest rate than the market did (2008-2009) I was just hoping their was an allowance somewhere to pull money out rather than borrow or pay a penalty.

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The only provision that is available for you is the borrowing availability. If you withdraw the $10,000 out of your 401(k) you’ll be subject to the 59 ½ IRS rule of 10% penalty + income tax. The only way to avoid this is by proving a hardship. Paying back a loan early is not considered a hardship.
Sometimes it happens that the loan interest is better than the market performance.

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Only if your 401k allows for in service distribution of the after tax portion - which I am assuming is either a Roth 401K or an after tax company savings plan. I would really need to check the plan document specifically. Your idea is fine if you are not subject to income tax or penalty and you are happy with a 7% return on your money. I am in your vicinity if you want to contact me to discuss further. Good Luck
Mark Schreiber CPA

You may be able to take your after-tax contributions immediately depending on what the document states. I think you are considering a distribution figuring the after-tax contributions will not be taxable. In fact, the gain on the after-tax contributions is pro-rated and you will pay tax on the portion that is gain. Depending on the performance of the assets, the tax could be substantial or minimal. Contact me if you need a calculation of the taxable amount.

You can take a loan from your plan, but you lose the growth you would have had if you kept the money in the plan. Take a home equity loan which will have a lower interest rate and is tax deductible.

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