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Sleep can be a very complex issue. And as you've experienced even the most wonderful avenues can be dead end roads, IF, either the practioner doesn't recognize the contributing factors or that modality doesn't address the contributing factors.

I'd recommend the following:

1. See a western physician and get a full check-up. It might be something that sleep specialists will not look for. It may not typical "unconsious" contributors and it might not be a matter of stress management or diet. You must first rule out any organic things happening in the body or any conditions that have been missed by the more intuitive approach. There can be things going on in the body you are unaware of. You must rule it out. I recognize those of us involved with matrix and similar paradigms, often frown upon western medicine, however, you don't want to throw the baby our with the bath water. I know of cases where things were found in a check-up, were resolved, and the sleeping problem resolved.

2. Your description is also symptomatic of a spiritual phenomena where the astral body does not recharge while you are sleeping. The astral body must process all the energies during the day and it also receives different inner frequencies that are meant to rejuvinate the body. It the astral body doesn't recharge you are basically sleep deprived. There is a difference between sleep and rest. Sounds like you are getting some sleep but what you are getting is not restful? And then you are popping back in the body sometime in the early am. And if this is the case, you can come back suddenly, wide awake. And sometimes if this is the case, you might have to do energy work or M.E at 2,3, 4 in the morning to get back to bed. And that is only working the energies not the cause of picking up the energies.

There can be at least several different reasons for this happening and this is why you might want to see somebody who is at least aware of this IF your check up comes out clean. One of the reasons more spiritual techniques might be of no avail is because you are creating this inner experiences by either conscious or unconsious desires or imaginings. And in this regard, you must be your own doctor. And this is for your own personal and private inventory. Among the contributors could be desires for any type of narcotics or liquor as well as sexual habits, thoughts and imaginings. Even if you have a past history and you no longer partake in these activities, you need to reexamine your relationship to them. Another reason, and I don't want to go into too much detail, could be karmic contract's that effect your whereabouts in your night journey's.

I'll note Michael Jacksons sleep problem was a very interesting case and I suspect he needed some immediate spiritual guidance as I think he didn't sleep at all.

I've encountered both of the forementioned conditions in others and succesfully overcame the later for myself.

Also, begin to be aware of the energies that you wake up with. Is your root chakra or any chakra out of whack when you wake up? In another words, are you bringing back dark or dense energies. In the past, i have often woke up exhausted, worked the energies I brought back and I'm fine. And actually an organic condition can cause the second condition which ultimately is resolved by resolving the first condition. All the turkey, hot milk, vitamins, breathing or tapping will not help if either one of these are in play. You are going to have to be a good detective.

It's also not a bad time to begin starting a dream journal and doing a little homework and how to be aware at dream time. I don't know your spiritual lean but mantric work can be very helpful not only for all the reasons we know but if you pick the right mantric sound, it will direct your inner journey's.

BTW, I can get by with four or five hours sleep and be well rested. And currently my diet is well, lousy which does effect my dreams. I used to need 8, 9 and even 10. The more the inner bodies, the battery that distributes energy, gets charged at night, the less sleep you need. Also, you must clear all the energies you picked up during the day and not take them into sleep.

BTW, I can get by with four or five hours sleep and be well rested. And currently my diet is well, lousy which does effect my dreams. I used to need 8, 9 and even 10 ...

There is evidence suggesting as one ages less sleep is needed. Many old people sleep only a few hours and do fine. But even younger adults can get by with less sleep. I'm reading "The Four Hour Body" right now and skimmed a chapter on sleep where it is discussed four hours can be a normal, restful sleep for a healthy adult and in fact even less than that. Don't have the specifics yet, but if anyone is interested PM me and I'll share when I read that chapter.

Me, I like my sleep. I do best with 6-8 hours and love it, but I do surprisingly well with 4.

As we all know, anything is possible with ME. Does anyone use it to NEVER sleep? Now that would be something.

I'd like to take a look at his conclusions as to why he thinks this pattern exists? Breakdown of neurotransmitters or a relationship to the quality of REM Sleep? Because w/out quality dream time, you are sleep deprived. Is it Tim Ferriss's Book "An Uncommon guide to weight loss, incredible sex, and becoming superhuman?

Actually, there was a russian sports psychologists that believees that sleep is an adaption/addiction? And the mainstream research says the difference is 20 minutes less for a 60 year old then a 40 year old. i'm far from an elderely person and the reduction of two to three hours doesn't fall within any research I'v viewed. As you know the theories and opinions are endless. The question is do the theories translate into a succesful resolution? In JPTC's case, it would seem that 4 hours is the problem not the solution.