Just a thought that's been kicking around in that pool of sludge I laughingly refer to as my mind.<br><br>The Mac community has finally abandoned all pretense at believing that the 'Great White Hope' of hardware parity, the Mot G5, will ever see the inside of a Power Mac. Having been convinced that the G5 is indeed simply the vaporware it increasingly seemed to be, we have enthusiastically turned our attention on IBM's 64 bit Power4-Lite 'Great Blue Hope' instead and we speculate great things for this Wonder-To-Be.<br><br>And they may indeed come to pass. <br><br>But at what price to the Power Mac sales now and in the next 12 months. If we 'know' that we're on for a massive performance boost 'real soon now', then what incentive is there to contemplate upgrading our pro hardware in the near future?<br><br>Will anyone be prepared to settle for a barely faster over-clocked dual G4 at a rather expensive price-point when there is much more to be offered just down the road?<br><br>I think not.<br><br>I believe Power Mac sales are going to tank - big time.<br><br>I hope Apple has a bunch of consumer goodies ready to go to make up the shortfall. I really do.<br><br>Nomex suit and balaclava on, extinguisher ready...<br><br>*For those non-antipodeans, a 'blue' in these parts means an error.<br><br>

I thought exactly the same thing although anyone waiting would be foolish if they need one anytime soon. It will be at least a year, probably more before that new chip appears in an Apple tower and the price could be considerably more.<br><br><br><br>

Its time to or for Apple to Dump Moto.<br>Moto market is "embedded Chip" TV, VCRs, CellPhones etc etc. Is their bread winner.<br><br>Apples Power PC chip was a lost leader - about 15% of Motos proc sales.<br>Since Moto is in a fight for its poor business management throught out the years. Let alone completely poor marketing skills they felt that.<br><br>The G5 will never be brought to the Mac - while the G4 still was selling??? Catch 22.<br><br>

I don't deny there will be some who 'need' to upgrade immediately or at least in the near future, and that they will probably sigh a huge sigh, and drop the cash while mumbling expletives under their collective breath. My guess (and that's all it is obviously) would be that far more will look at the relatively small gains to be had from the G4 and say "Fsck it" and muddle along for a bit longer.<br><br>I dunno about the price thing...will Apple risk overpricing the new hardware and potentially stall their sales, or will they price them keenly in order to get momentum happening? Jeez, I really don't know any more. Apple these days is doing some awfully un-Apple things. I certainly don't feel I know the company as well as I used to.<br><br>Or maybe it's just me getting old? <br><br>One thing's for sure, they need to get some improved CPU into the towers and sooooon!!! <br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>The G5 will never be brought to the Mac - while the G4 still was selling??? Catch 22.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Unfortunately, I fear you are right. <br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I believe Power Mac sales are going to tank - big time.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Going to tank???? The sales of PowerMacs have been in the toilet for over a year already... I don't know how much lower it can fall...<br><br>

I think we'll be a bit surprised. We'll see the G5 - it will be faster than what we have now. By the time the IBM chip is available in a Mac, while it will offer a speed increase, it won't be as big a deal by that time.<br><br>

isn't this what the PC buyers had to decide. Gee should I get a 1.4Ghz P4 or wait for that 1.8Ghz or maybe the 2.2Ghz or the 2.4Ghz.<br><br>I think people will buy the computer they need, when they need it.<br><br>[color:red]live free or die</font color=red>

I agree... we will see a G5 from Moto next year (perhaps a slower one than originally planned). I think even after Apple accepts the Power4 chip into the PowerMac line, they will sell it at the high end and keep the G5 for lower end chips.<br><br>Of course, they could just push the G4 to 1.5 ghz and call it the G5... that would be a fine how-do-you-do!!!<br><br>

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