I can't believe this line isn't climbed more often, without a doubt one of the best E4's I have done. Full of good gear (in solid rock) and has one of the most exciting starts. People have said it's loose and low quality but the only loose part is the footholds at the bottom. I would say for a traditional route it South Wales this has to be a 2star route.dmacmorris - Lead rpt - 03/Feb/15 with Tom