6. What the FUCK!

I say it is time to look back. If true, this goes way, way beyond torture and anyone who even tries to justify this is an absolute moron.
God help us all if sodomy is an "acceptable" form of tortute by wingnuts or any other human. I always ask myself, Would I treat my own child that way? If the answer is no, then the aanswer is no!

12. The President is the most powerful man on the planet. But he wouldnt have

that power without the backing of the CIA. IMO the CIA told him when he got elected, not to mess with them. I believe Pres Obama is an honest man and would love to go after Bush and Cheney for torture, but I also believe he is pragmatic. It might be a fight he cant win.

23. I agree. At some point we will be forced to do that or become slaves. nm

13. "An injustice anywhere...

...is an injustice everywhere." ~MLK, Jr. Every time we turn our heads to an injustice, the act of turning insures that that injustice will be repeated. A great injustice was done both here and abroad during the 8 yrs of the Bush-Cheney cabal. Not one person was held accountable for the horrible legacy they left behind. Not one person has been held accountable for the Wall Street debauchal. And think what an impression this leaves in the psyches of our children. It's no wonder there's so much bullying in our schools. I really don't know that we can lay the drone business directly on POs shoulders. Don't we all know that the MIC more or less runs this country? It's definitely where half or more of the money goes. We have drones, because the MIC has never been held accountable. It's the elephant in the attic that no one can see.

14. Oh Yeah...

K&R

... and it's so Orwellianicly ironic that the motto at the CIA is "The truth shall set you free." Yeah right, if the American People were allowed to know the truth of what they (the CIA) have done in our name for the last some 60 yrs. Yeah.. most of us here on DU know, but the majority of the general public does not.

15. No one will ever pay for it

17. John Pilger on Barack Obama and the CIA

There is no doubt that PNAC's neocon agenda has continued unabated under Obama.

The neocon agenda, PNAC published in 1997, called for regime change in 6 countries by force. Iraq, Libya, Syria, Iran, Lebanon & Jordan.

Iraq was done under GW Bush.

Libya was done by Obama (installing an Islamic Extremist government in the process.)

Syria in progress (the rebels in the Free Syrian Army also contain a high proportion of Islamic Extremists). The rebels are being openly armed by Saudi Arabia. Libyan weapons including shoulder held ground to air missile launchers have found their way into Syria.

Aggression against Iran continues.

Lebanon and Jordan are being destabilised by events in Syria, so PNAC's agenda in those countries is being progressed as well.

Is it the intention of US Foreign Policy to replace all secular Middle East regimes with Islamic Extremist ones?

If it is not the intention, it is the effective result and these people are not idiots.

Look at what has happened in Egypt and Libya.

The second theme to the neocon agenda is to reduce civil liberties and increase surveillance on American citizens.
This agenda too continues to be expanded under Barack Obama.

Barack Obama extended the Patriot Act and signed NDAA.
NDAA repeals Posse Comitatus allowing the military to operate on the streets of US cities.
NDAA expands the "battlefield" to include the United States.
NDAA codifies the indefinite detention provisions already made available in the Patriot Act.

The surveillance state has dramatically ramped up under Obama. All US emails are being collected. Along with a sizeable proportion of mobile phone convo's, internet searches and Facebook / twitter activity. These measures are primarily designed to provide ammunition to discredit or actually charge anyone who dissents against the government in the future. They are NOT anti terrorism measures. The DHS has now started spying on public buses.
Barack Obama is already the most active and authoritarian President ever, in cracking down and harassing any whistle blowers who speak up about the US governments activities.

The whole thing is an incredible waste of taxpayer money apart from the civil liberties issues.

20. OK I will do that

18. Obama can't go after the war criminals who brought us this present crop of torturers

because its enough that he's breaking new ground. If he had tried he would have been rode out of the white house on a rail.
We're still a very racist country after all.

What I'm getting at is the glass ceiling of the white house has been broken and President Obama and us who put him there are who did it. The old white mans presidential club has been crashed. The Presidency will never be again a position only an old white man is allowed. I remember when Kennedy was elected the OWMPC went nuts cause he was too young according to them. They questioned his experience from the word go and never let up until they finally assassinated him. They survived that but i don't think they can survive haveing a black man as President.
I predict the next President will be a woman. I'm going to try to hold out long enough to see that as its been a dream of mine forever.