In the future, if you'd like to change the name of an article, please use the '''move''' tab at the top of the article rather than creating a new article and then changing the old one to a link to the new. This preserves the article's editing history intact.

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In the case of this article, I was able to piece the history back together with deletion and moving, but those options aren't fully available to non-sysops. The easiest method (which is also available to everyone) is just to use the '''move''' button. Thanks! {{User:ASDamick/sig}} 20:28, December 28, 2005 (CST)

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== Population estimate ==

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Greetings! Thank you for your contributions. I was wondering whether you had a link or a source for the population estimate for the [[Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand]]. The [http://www.cra.org.au/pages/00000226.cgi original link] cites 7,525; you changed the number to an estimated 37,525, but the link remains, now contradicting rather than supporting. I'm guessing that source is from 2001, but I may be wrong. The only other source I could find online is from 1996: [http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/rn/1997-98/98rn27.htm 3,969]. {{User:Magda/sig}} 07:46, December 29, 2005 (CST)

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== +Gibran ==

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Would you mind engaging in the discussion on [[Talk:Gibran (Rimlawi) of Australia and New Zealand]] before continuing to change the spelling everywhere? {{User:ASDamick/sig}} 13:28, January 3, 2006 (CST)

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== Antiochian.org.au ==

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Regarding the parishes - there are a couple of parishes on OrthodoxWiki that haven't made it onto the Antiochian.org.au website: St Nicholas, Mayfield (NSW), Invercargill Mission (NZ), Hamilton Mission (NZ); and also, one that hasn't made it to OrthodoxWiki - St Cuthbert, Rowville (Vic). I didn't add the last one because I thought that you probably knew what was going on and had reasons, but just in case I thought you should know. cheers, -- {{User:Pistevo/sig}} 16:07, February 7, 2006 (CST)

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== +Gibran (revisited) ==

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With recent edits, should he be listed as Bishop or Archbishop? I know that you're "closer to the action" (if you'll excuse the term), but there really should be one marker. Also, his nomination for elevation (in northern autumn?) and whether he was actually elevated is ambiguous. Thanks, {{User:Pistevo/sig}} 03:58, February 27, 2006 (CST)

Hi there. I hope you'll address some of the issues I've brought up on [[Talk:Church of Antioch]] regarding some of your recent edits. Thanks! {{User:ASDamick/sig}} 20:18, March 13, 2006 (CST)

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== Your use of Byzantine ==

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Chrisg,

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Many folks use the descriptor ''Byzantine'' for different purposes. Within Orthodoxy it is generally used to identify the specifically Greek, as opposed to Slavic, tradition. Outside of Orthodoxy it is often used to differentiate between Chalcedonian Orthodoxy and non-Chalcedonian "Oriental" Orthodoxy.

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In several of your recent contributions I've noticed you using the word in this latter way. However, this isn't necessary (or even desired) on OrthodoxWiki. We start from a [[NPOV|Mainstream Chalcedonian Bias]], which means that when we use the word Orthodox we generally mean Eastern or Byzantine Orthodox. We don't have to include the words "Eastern" or "Byzantine." Non-Chalcedonians, etc., are not presumed to be included.

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I hope this is clear. Let me know if you have any questions. {{User:Dcndavid/sig}} 06:54, March 15, 2006 (CST)

Thanks. I need to hear Axios, but I cetainly do not personally feel worthy. I had a rather long discussion with Archimandrite Fr Victor Penel last century about whether candidates for priesthood are worthy or not. He disagreed with my view, but we remained friendly nonetheless. But thanks for the comment!

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:Reminds me of Fr Paul Nadim Tarazi's comments on Communion - if you think you're worthy, you should probably step out of the line. But, just in case, I should clarify - in the Greek, 'Panta Axios' is used from a distance (ie not in person), if I understand correctly, both as 'may you be worthy' and 'always be worthy', ie present and future tenses. Even if it's not correct, that's what I meant :) --{{User:Pistevo/sig}} 23:18, April 10, 2006 (CDT)

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== SCCOCA ==

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Please see [[Talk:Standing Conference of Canonical Orthodox Churches in Australia|the talk page for SCCOCA]]. Because there seem to be wildly differing views of SCCOCA, I have placed the views of both the [[Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia|GOA]] (i.e. [[User:Nstavropoulos|Nstavropoulos' edit]]) and the [[Antiochian Orthodox Archdiocese of Australia and New Zealand|AOA]] (i.e. your previous edits) in the article, and labelled as such. Thanks, --{{User:Pistevo/sig}} 05:04, April 9, 2006 (CDT)

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Until I get a citation, I have taken the safer course of deleting the Antiochian comment for the moment. An official comment could be forthcoming in the near future.

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:Quite an official comment! As I said on MetBoulos' page, please see the SCCOCA [[Talk:Standing_Conference_of_Canonical_Orthodox_Churches_in_Australia|talk page]], and the main article. --{{User:Pistevo/sig}} 23:15, April 10, 2006 (CDT).

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I think someone might be a bit sick of the heavy-handed one-sidedness we have seen for so many years.

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Of course, the "representatives" of "SCCOCA", except for the Ecumenical representative, were unaware that Antioch had been "excluded". Not a cooperative decision.

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Also there was no Representative of the Moscow Patriarchate at the Vespers. The cleric who used to be the representative of the Moscow Patriarchate in Australia had that status terminated by Met Kyril of Smolensk and Kaliningrad about 4 years ago. All the Moscow clergy in Australia now report direct to Met Kyril.

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In addition it was ROCOR who used to be a member of SCCOCA, not Moscow. It is a bit disingenous to mention Moscow as having been represented when it was never a member of SCCOCA anyway.....

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It must be hard to be unbiased, having only heared the one version in the past.

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Who is N Stavropoulos? Is he the college registrar?

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Thanks

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:)~ chrisg 2006 April 11 : 1517 EAST

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:No no - college registrar is Anastasios Kalogerakis, BTh. I'm not completely sure who it is - Stavropoulos is a fairly common name, particularly amongst active members of the GOA in Sydney - but I do know of a priest by that initial.

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:Also, I would expect that 'representative of Moscow Patriarchate' was more 'a priest of' (rather than the leader); that being said, I'm not in Marrickville or anything.

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:*sigh* Australia's always been about half a generation behind America, but we must be well overdue for our huge convert influx, imho. --{{User:Pistevo/sig}} 03:05, April 11, 2006 (CDT)