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people who say fiesta sucks, are just angry fiesta players who are too lazy to level and earn their in-game stuff. there are idiots everywhere, deal with it. they are overreacting, don't listen to them. try fiesta and decide if you like it or not.

i think fiesta is a fun game, i found many nice friends here. i usually quit mmos in a few days or weeks, but fiesta is different. i started playing in may and i'm still online every day. lvling is easy, my characters are lvl 78 (scout) and 62 (paladin) and my quest list is full!!! i rarely have to grind, not like in other mmos where you have to grind til max lvl after a few quests... this is the main reason why i love fiesta, there are many quests to do, even kingdom quests that require good teamwork. leveling never gets boring, especially when you're with friends, like me :)

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Not true, silenos. I played for months and reached level sixty. I could have gone even further if I'd wanted to but I got sick of it.

There are glitches in this game that have been around since before I began playing that no one cares to even attempt to fix. The programmers just aren't that skilled. They put in snow and break something else in the process. Did we really need fake snow at Christmas? No. Did we want it? Not if it meant lagging, thanks.

It's also unbalanced. If you aren't a Fighter, you're screwed. It's not about skill and how you play in this game. Class, who you kiss up to, and money matter.

For some reason, this game is also bogged down by bots. I've tried other games and haven't had this problem and no, they weren't P2P games, I've tried both and just now realized that I haven't had a problem with them elsewhere.

It's a really little game, too. You see some jerk running his mouth and argue with him and then that's it right? Nope, he's always around. Always. You can't get away from anyone, everyone is so packed in that it's ridiculous. I play PWI now and I've been in two arguments with people since I started. The first thing I noticed is that the players weren't quite as nasty. The second thing I noticed is that I haven't seen them since. People just disappear. You can join factions and not even see the Director or whatever until you need his or her help somewhere. People are spread out so you aren't stuck playing with the same jerks and listening to the same weirdos talk about how awesome so and so is because they have no life and spend all their money on prolonging their five minutes of fame. There's nothing more annoying than listening to some of these people, really. That's actually what was the final nail in the coffin for me.

Way too much drama.

Like OMG like this Guild is like the most powerful!

[a day later]

OMG, can you believe they broke up!

[two days later]

OMG, 5 of the members are now in a new Guild, OMG!

[five minutes later]

They're back together!

[seven minutes later]

Nuuuu, they broke up again!

I'm not even kidding. The top Guilds are the most annoying usually. They break up, reform, rename themselves, talk about being awesome and good and then harass people and keep on trucking. Again, some of these people are the most annoying people to have to game with that, they, themselves will be its end I think. If not that, then OS's greed and lack of rules. Or rather, the inability to enforce their rules. They give you this long list of rules you're supposed to follow and then none are enforced. So the whole game can end up denegrating into nothing more than a cat fight. I've actually been stalked, KSed, and trained. Once, it was simply because I dared to harvest herbs in an area someone else had claimed for themselves. >.< So this is where money and butt kissing comes in.

All in all, just not my thing. I like big areas where I can enjoy my gaming experience rather than be mashed up with jerks and then have to deal with glitches and repeat quests that require you to kill 120 of one monster about 5 or more times. If I have to work that hard, at least make it worth it.

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This game is only fun for so long. Though the grinding isn't the best; the social is pretty good. You make a lot of friends but leveling isn't the easiest thing either.. But all in all this game is minorly entertaining. If you're just getting into MMORPG's then this could be a good place to start then go on to the better made ones. I personally played this, capped at 105 with a mage then moved on to Jade Dynasty.

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I hate it when people say "should I or not???" It doesn't hurt to spend at least a hour dling it then trying it out yourself. I mean no one but yourself can actually justify whether a game is worth playing...

I say go and try it out and see for yourself....*scratches head upon humanity's thinking*

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Originally posted by rcarey

Originally posted by rcarey

Nowadays its next to impossible to play ANY mmo that doesnt have gold spammers. One of the most annoying things is when the chat log in a game is swarmed with messages like "1000 gold for $19.99 @ www.xxxxxxxxx.com" over and over and over again. It gets old real quick. Good music is definately a plus, though. Besides all that, community is a large part of any mmo. Teaming up with other people to complete quests and beat bosses is key(for the most part). However, if the game itself is good enough yet the community is largely immature players arguing and making fun of newer players by calling them "n00bz" and not helping them when needed, i will still play. If thats the case then i just pay no attention to other players and do my own thing.

Dont get me wrong, sometimes it gets boring and frustrating doing super hard quests alone but if thats what it takes to enjoy the game content then i suck it up and play. This route isnt for everyone but it works for me. After a while i'll quit the game and move on to a different one i guess.

Thank you for the heads up on what to expect in Fiesta, crunchyblack. Its good to know what im getting in to.

The nice thing is now you have the option to block the gold spammers and you can turn them in on the help page of outspark. :)

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Originally posted by AkashaGunn

Originally posted by rcarey

Originally posted by rcarey

Nowadays its next to impossible to play ANY mmo that doesnt have gold spammers. One of the most annoying things is when the chat log in a game is swarmed with messages like "1000 gold for $19.99 @ www.xxxxxxxxx.com" over and over and over again. It gets old real quick. Good music is definately a plus, though. Besides all that, community is a large part of any mmo. Teaming up with other people to complete quests and beat bosses is key(for the most part). However, if the game itself is good enough yet the community is largely immature players arguing and making fun of newer players by calling them "n00bz" and not helping them when needed, i will still play. If thats the case then i just pay no attention to other players and do my own thing.

Dont get me wrong, sometimes it gets boring and frustrating doing super hard quests alone but if thats what it takes to enjoy the game content then i suck it up and play. This route isnt for everyone but it works for me. After a while i'll quit the game and move on to a different one i guess.

Thank you for the heads up on what to expect in Fiesta, crunchyblack. Its good to know what im getting in to.

The nice thing is now you have the option to block the gold spammers and you can turn them in on the help page of outspark. :)

And thats IF i decide to download :)

They have been taking out a lot of the spammers now and most of the glitches are fixed. Yes it does take some time to fix it but the programmers have to go through several thousand lines of code to find the one that is screwing up. Its not the programmers fault. Yes when they do have glitches sometimes it can be funny like seeing dungeon goblin in a high level area like Temple Of Spirit. But most who play Fiesta love it. I have been playing for almost 2 years now and just enjoy being with my friends when I dont feel like grinding or leveling.

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If you are ready to spend money, and a descent amount of it, then Fiesta is for you. If not, then good luck in searching for a different game.

Thats not really true, why do you think you need money to play Fiesta, its free to download and play. You only spend money IF you want to. No one is making you; the entire year and a half that I have played so far and I havent had to spend any money on the or in the game at all and I am a 91st. level Cleric. But you have the right to your opinion.

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If you are ready to spend money, and a descent amount of it, then Fiesta is for you. If not, then good luck in searching for a different game.

Thats not really true, why do you think you need money to play Fiesta, its free to download and play. You only spend money IF you want to. No one is making you; the entire year and a half that I have played so far and I havent had to spend any money on the or in the game at all and I am a 91st. level Cleric. But you have the right to your opinion.

Bullcrap.

If you're not going to but items from cash-shop you can forget about:

PvP. Killing a player that has cash-shop items is impossible.

Kingdom Quest where you need to kill other people and at the end if you will be in top 3 u will receive unique item. Again, killing people who buy cash-shop items is impossible.

And these are only some of the insults you get when you play at this game..

And my friend here, was permabanned after all the insults she got.

Training mobs on other players that are afk (resting in a mushroom house) and thus killing them is not allowed and doing it repeatedly will result in a ban eventually.

Whats so difficult to understand?

Sorry if I seemed harsh and I want to add that I have tried this game on three occasions iirc and the last time I played as a newbie doing the first Kings Quest.

These are instanced raids with up to 15 people but you don't get to be in one whole raid party instead you can get invited to player groups of at most 6 people iirc and its only the group that gets the last hit that gets the kill.

I was tanking the boss in a group of 3 people in total.

I did all the hard work but I didn't get the credit and quest reward for that because one of the other groups got the last hit on the boss and thus got credited for the kill.

This just pissed me off immensely and I just logged off and uninstalled the game.

If your game has raids then make it automatically one big raid party so that no one gets left out.

Because of this I say: avoid this game you are just gonna feel pissed off doing Kings Quest unless you are in with a whole bunch of friends who will make a group with you and screwing over the other 9 people or so doing the Kings Quest who will never get the the credit for killing the boss and thus getting the quest reward.

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I've played Fiesta since the day it came out of CBT. If you like playing, or can atleast stand playing, with a lot of discriminating, annoying, and immature people then this game will be fine to play. The leveling system is relatively simple and becomes severly complicated after level 70. I agree with some of the previous post that say if you are capable of spending about $100 a month on Leveling Packs, this game will be very easy for you to conquer. If you do decide to play this game be aware the admin of Outspark do take in account things that happen and will give you a response if there is something wrong. However, in-game wise, they are virtually useless. Another thing that can be a turn-off to this game is the currency imbalance. Capped Enchanted Weapons, or +9/+10, will cost you about 10 gold at level 50. Unless you are, again, capable of spending your money to make your own, this game will be incredibly complicated for you.

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People complain so much about the game and yet they never do anything to help fix it.

Here's the typical process an average player takes on:

GM: New patch coming out!

PLayer: The patch is bugged!

GM: *busy doing stuff and no response*

Player: *starts cursing randomly*

Other Player: Calm down, be patient :)

Player: Outspark SUCKS! *rambles away*

That's basically how it goes. I find it rather amusing. Outspark's forums, in my opinion, aren't necessarily the ONLY place where you can post up feedback. I would think most players would go to other Fiesta-related sites and post up feedback. If the GMs don't pay attention to their own forums, you can always post on forums they have no control over and I'm sure the staff of other fansites will contact Outspark directly and say "hey, something's wrong...we got feedback...please fix it"

In the end, it's up to Outspark and OnsonSoft on how things will be fixed. The game isn't perfect. If you want to have more vents, instead of bugging the GMs about it, why don't players make events themselves? A game is run by the community. Most people will say "all the company cares about is money. f*** them!" The truth is this...without money, there is no game to play. WHere do you think the money comes from? The players of course. So why do the players complain about it if they are the ones paying for stuff? Paying for item releases that they complain about....kind of ironic. A gaming community is controlled by the community. I've played MMO games long enough to know this. A company will not change the way it does things unless something drastic happens with the community. If they start receiving complaints from experienced players and players that are close to them or start having a downfall in amount of people buying their item releases, they will be forced to change things up.

Overall, it's up to the players if they want to pay for stuff. It's also up to the players on how to follow through and make sure their feedback is heard by the company. I've played Fiesta since CBT and I am still active in the community. If you hate grinding, go do something else. Go enhance your weapon...go to an instance dungeon...go chat with people...go make guides for sites. If people start acting immature, then just ignore them. I've had so many people come up to me and harass me about my character's level and whatnot and I just shrug them off. That's just how it is in an MMO.

My advice is, stay in the game, give it a chance, and just have fun with it. Get involved with the community and have good connections :)

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<scratches head> I don't get this game.

Way too much running around for little to no reward for my taste. Leveling seems rather quick at the lower levels, so sitting at level 7 and have nothing to show for it except a backpack full of "stuff". I have no idea what to do with the "stuff" but I have it.

Maybe I am suppose to turn my animal droppings into equipment, but I guess I missed that part of the tuturial. :/

So my vote is "not play the game" but that is only from playing for approx a hour, but I really don't feel like I could take much more then a hour.

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I played Fiesta and play by the rules but there are people that aimming to have you banned cause they either they dont like you or want the place for themself. I played it for 9 months and seen bad people getting reported but never banned and good people been reported and you heard them been ban. OS hasnt been much of a good company or run Fiesta right or any of their games all they want is the money you put on the game thats it. So this game isnt good to play unless you never talk to people or have friends.