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Now why did you have to go do that? The cons don't like that plan and they will hold their breath until the election so they can show those libs whatfor - Oh wait - nevermind.

Did anyone see the Orange One proclaim that he will accept higher revenues but not raise taxes? Sounds alot like Rmoney's plan, too bad the details were a secret unless he was elected. I guess we will never know! I'm betting on the House proposing lemonade stands to increase revenue.

Now why did you have to go do that? The con
s don't like that plan and they will hold their breath until the election so they can show those libs whatfor - Oh wait - nevermind.

Did anyone see the Orange One proclaim that he will accept higher revenues but not raise taxes? Sounds alot like Rmoney's plan, too bad the details were a secret unless he was elected. I guess we will never know! I'm betting on the House proposing lemonade stands to increase revenue.

Sorry Net this is Obamas bed and now he has to lie in it. You guys can try to twist the facts and attack the house but the misery thats on the way has nothing to do with Boehner.

You people jacked this economy, you people suffer the consequence.

Either way, letting the Bush tax cuts expire will destroy whats left of our economy or giving Reid his "tax the rich" nonsense will do it.

It's obvious you enjoy an arguement and it's obvious Six has fallen into your trap. We all know the republicans lost. I'm just wondering why you find it so difficult to answer a simple question? I'm not going to beat a dead horse with you. Either there is an economic plan or there isn't. If you're not sure what is is than admit it.

Officially, Down for the count

YOU HAVE TO GET OFF YOUR ASS TO GET ON YOUR FEET

I know enough to know, I don't know enoughLiberalism-Ideas so good they mandate them

The House holds the purse - strings. They have a choice, hold America hostage to their FAILED agenda or work with the adults for a reasonable compromise.

Failed agenda? Are you actually defending a guy who was a junior senator AT BEST? The dude has never held down a real job. Us majority ( not me) are drinking the koolaid! I would not follow this guy anywhere. I don't claim him as my president. He believes we all know nothing and he has all the ideas to make things better. What has he done? Sign executive orders that take away more of our ever dwindling freedoms.

You better wake up all of you who support this guy who does nothing except send us further into communism / socialism or whatever you want to call it. He wants bigger government and more support services. Guess what, that takes more taxes..... Look at what is happening in Europe with their tax rates and now the failing systems. Do you want community health care? Get out your wallet to pay for the people who wont pay their share!

Drive through some under privileged neighborhoods at night and look at the big screen TV's in the living rooms. They all have cable, internet, cell phones, manicured nails, tattoes and the list goes on.... And many of those on guess what, public assistance. Then they have the nerve to say to social workers,,, what are YOU going to do about my rent? The social workers reply, I don't know what YOU are going to do about your rent but lets look at YOUR options.

If you give a man a fish he will never learn to fish. We are not helping anybody by giving them entitlements.

To put the world in order, we must first put the nation in order; to put the nation in order, we must put the family in order; to put the family in order, we must cultivate our personal life; and to cultivate our personal life, we must first set our hearts right.

The facts regarding Obama's economic plan have been posted and other information is available for anyone to research (which you should have done before voting). Just because you disagree does not change the facts. Face it, the conservative bubble does not contain the wisdom of the ages - that much is obvious or the right wing would not have been so shocked by the outcome of the election. Time to get on board to get this country moving again and stop with the drama.

We all seen that employee who basically is the company and the owner
Might be a son who inherited the business from a Very hard working
Father/Mother. Nothing wrong with Nepotism if he Follows the same
work ethic. But we know he's more concern with FaCBBBooK.

In 2014 that employee(Backbone of company) will be able to open up his

own company much easier. If he has less than 50 employees he does not

have to Provide health care for those workers. But yet they will have

health care at no expense to him. This alone will lessen an extreme

Financial Burden to get Men out there Knocking out calls. He will be

able hire/compete with other established companies (level the playing

field). There will also be less hiring of undocumented workers

because of this. Paying someone in cash does not just avoid Taxes it

avoids other requirements that will not be there in 2014 (depending on

state ). Countless hours of many companies are put in to with a phone

call from employee whats my deductible,, what doctor takes my

Coverage,, i never got re-inbursed for my last visit etc::: Those
hours can go into the business and probably lessen your office staff (or have them concentrate on getting work).
More companies means Prices will Drop when prices drop the customer
will spend that money somewhere else.

Ask your wife this week and say Im thinking about opening my own
company I have 20 years experience and I feel I deserve more out of
life, she will say You do BUT what are we going to do about health
benefits and little Timmy needs his asthma spray. That spirit/jolt of being
self employed will be Crushed.