I love the broadcast view, all of our NBA basketball memories are from the broadcast point of view. Also, the game plays much better on that POV for me, because I can see the space better between myself and the defender/offensive player, and I can also see how close I am to the baseline/hoop better, and I don't need to worry about the court turning on change of possession.

I know that 2k view is the original view, but I want to get your feedback on why exactly you prefer that view. I've seen many people even say "You aren't playing 2k if you are not playing on the 2k view", or "You must be junk at the game if you are not playing on the 2k view", when this is clearly not the case. Not only is it far more realistic to play on the broadcast view (Whether it be broadcast stadium, or my preferred, broadcast generic where we can tweak the height and zoom), but it makes more sense for the gameplay.

I almost equate this to the PC users who say "If you are using a gamepad for X game, you are a noob, or cant be good at it, or are missing out". Is it more just a thing that's set in peoples heads after doing it for so long?

I see no advantages to the 2k view over broadcast view. If you have watched my highlight videos, you will notice I have great command over the on court action, AND the highlights themselves look like they would on TV.

Look at my gameplay video here, where my brother and I have complete control, and it looks like TV. Aren't these more exciting?

I stopped playing on broadcast/TV view around Live 2005/06. I felt it gave me a better look at passing lanes and openings in the defense and it's a bit more realistic for me as it's as if I were on the court playing

I've read that, that people feel like its them on the court. But, it's not like it's first person, it's still 3rd person. The distance between the players is troubling on 2k view (especially since the protected shot came around). With 2k view, you can't really tell the distance between the two players, and you can't judge the distance between yourself and the baseline/hoop very well. Doesn't that stuff bother you?

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

I see the "seeing up the court better" as a decent reason, however, I feel like otherwise it has to many limitations. I think catching the ball in the corner, and driving hard baseline is a big part of basketball (I play, and its a huge part of a perimeter players game), as well as a post up players game to spin baseline (See David Robinson/Hakeem/Ewing, etc).

In regards to seeing up the court better, broadcast with height 5 and zoom 1 or 2, allows you to get a board and see about to halfcourt (roughly), in 2k, they discourage the long pass so much that 99% of the time the ball goes sailing over the players head after the pass anyway. So for me, that is zero impact. And it also seems that the CPU In this game refrains from making those long passes anyway.

I guess I think of it as the whole experience, like when you boot up the game and start playing. Wouldn't you want the experience that you have experienced with all your memories of the NBA?

I was actually surprised to see how many people on that 4th video only use broadcast, I actually thought most people still used 2k.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

The 2K view gives you a massive advantage competitively, I've never felt the same playing in broadcast view. You can't run fast breaks, you can't see certain parts of the court/ball. Rebounding and defense is harder since you don't get a good view of which way the defender is going, plus I've just gotten used to the 2K view so it's too late to change.

I am literally running solid fastbreaks in the highlight videos I upload. In fact, I find running fastbreaks to be even more enjoyable because the court isn't bouncing around from the 2k view.

"you can't see certain parts of the court/ball. Rebounding and defense is harder since you don't get a good view of which way the defender is going"

What? Rebounding and defense are not harder at all on the broadcast view, in fact, they feel more responsive and make more sense on broadcast view to me. Again, you can see the baseline, you can see the distance between yourself and the basket, when a defensive rebound happens, you don't have to wait for the camera to rotate.

"The 2K view gives you a massive advantage competitively"

Ive played online against a few people who used 2k view, and I smoked them, easily. It gives a zero competitive advantage, as I can actually see the distance between the players better, and use the baseline better.

You are speaking as a matter of fact with those statements, and maybe you feel it gives YOU a better advantage. But, I'm talking about the facts of what you can, and cant see better on each camera view.

broadcast view offers:

- Screen not jumping around- Camera not rotating- View of baseline- Better view of distance between yourself and player, distance from hoop, distance from baseline- TV experience which we grew up on and still view the NBA today

2k view offers

- A better view down court- 3rd person perspective behind the players

You like the 2k view better because you are used to it. Which is totally cool, but lets not act like the 2k view gives a "Massive Advantage", it absolutely does not.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

I am literally running solid fastbreaks in the highlight videos I upload. In fact, I find running fastbreaks to be even more enjoyable because the court isn't bouncing around from the 2k view.

"you can't see certain parts of the court/ball. Rebounding and defense is harder since you don't get a good view of which way the defender is going"

What? Rebounding and defense are not harder at all on the broadcast view, in fact, they feel more responsive and make more sense on broadcast view to me. Again, you can see the baseline, you can see the distance between yourself and the basket, when a defensive rebound happens, you don't have to wait for the camera to rotate.

"The 2K view gives you a massive advantage competitively"

Ive played online against a few people who used 2k view, and I smoked them, easily. It gives a zero competitive advantage, as I can actually see the distance between the players better, and use the baseline better.

You are speaking as a matter of fact with those statements, and maybe you feel it gives YOU a better advantage. But, I'm talking about the facts of what you can, and cant see better on each camera view.

broadcast view offers:

- Screen not jumping around- Camera not rotating- View of baseline- Better view of distance between yourself and player, distance from hoop, distance from baseline- TV experience which we grew up on and still view the NBA today

2k view offers

- A better view down court- 3rd person perspective behind the players

You like the 2k view better because you are used to it. Which is totally cool, but lets not act like the 2k view gives a "Massive Advantage", it absolutely does not.

Then explain why you don't see any eSports or professional youtubers using broadcast... it does give you a competitive advantage. Broadcast is definitely more aesthetically pleasing though. Besides, I could say the exact same about your opinion on the broadcast view, it could be because you're used to it as well.

I prefer to use 2K Cam for MyCAREER and 2K Pro-Am. Running the point, I feel it gives me a view of the court that works best for me, especially when players are leaking out on the break...or cherry-picking, as is often the case in 2K Pro-Am. I'd have to agree with Q that there's also a sense of putting yourself in the player's shoes, even though it isn't first person or even directly over the shoulder. I just find that it works better for me in those modes.

However, in all other modes where I'm controlling all five players, I prefer to use the broadcast angle for both aesthetic and gameplay reasons. Oddly enough, despite the fact it's a player-locked mode, I also prefer the broadcast-style sideline view in MyPARK as well, probably because the courts are smaller than regulation. Admittedly I haven't tried 2K Cam in MyPARK yet, but I haven't really felt a need to.

As far as anyone saying that you aren't really playing the game if you're not playing on 2K Cam, or casting aspersions on your abilities if that's not your camera angle of choice, that's just silly bluster; a narrow-minded opinion that there's only one "correct" way to play, and obviously, that's their way. There's no right or wrong camera angle to play on, but some people want there to be one - naturally, the one they've picked - to justify their preference. In reality, the only justification you need is "That's what I prefer/like" or "That's what works for me", but a lot of people don't have confidence in the strength of that position, which is why they reject it so harshly. It's no different to those who mock other people's hobbies and interests, or taste in TV shows, movies, and music. They need to feel superior, correct, and justified in their choices, so they set imaginary standards that define their preferences as being right, which conveniently makes all other choices wrong.

The rotating camera in 2K Pro-Am is definitely a problem, and one of the things I don't like about the angle. I don't have any issues with the angle that's available in MyCAREER since it remains behind my player at all times and I feel it's pretty smooth (at least on PS4), but unfortunately it's not available in 2K Pro-Am. There's a similar one, but it's zoomed in too closely.

Andrew wrote:The rotating camera in 2K Pro-Am is definitely a problem, and one of the things I don't like about the angle. I don't have any issues with the angle that's available in MyCAREER since it remains behind my player at all times and I feel it's pretty smooth (at least on PS4), but unfortunately it's not available in 2K Pro-Am. There's a similar one, but it's zoomed in too closely.

Ah gotcha.

Well, I'll keep posting videos on broadcast. Haha.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

Andrew wrote:The rotating camera in 2K Pro-Am is definitely a problem, and one of the things I don't like about the angle. I don't have any issues with the angle that's available in MyCAREER since it remains behind my player at all times and I feel it's pretty smooth (at least on PS4), but unfortunately it's not available in 2K Pro-Am. There's a similar one, but it's zoomed in too closely.

I had it set up in Live 10 where it wouldn't rotate so you can still face the opponents on defense. No rotating necessary.

Andrew wrote:The rotating camera in 2K Pro-Am is definitely a problem, and one of the things I don't like about the angle. I don't have any issues with the angle that's available in MyCAREER since it remains behind my player at all times and I feel it's pretty smooth (at least on PS4), but unfortunately it's not available in 2K Pro-Am. There's a similar one, but it's zoomed in too closely.

I had it set up in Live 10 where it wouldn't rotate so you can still face the opponents on defense. No rotating necessary.

I'd heard that option was going to be in NBA 2K17, but unless I've overlooked it, it doesn't seem to be, which is disappointing.

Dee4Three wrote:I see the "seeing up the court better" as a decent reason, however, I feel like otherwise it has to many limitations. I think catching the ball in the corner, and driving hard baseline is a big part of basketball (I play, and its a huge part of a perimeter players game), as well as a post up players game to spin baseline (See David Robinson/Hakeem/Ewing, etc).

In regards to seeing up the court better, broadcast with height 5 and zoom 1 or 2, allows you to get a board and see about to halfcourt (roughly), in 2k, they discourage the long pass so much that 99% of the time the ball goes sailing over the players head after the pass anyway. So for me, that is zero impact. And it also seems that the CPU In this game refrains from making those long passes anyway.

I guess I think of it as the whole experience, like when you boot up the game and start playing. Wouldn't you want the experience that you have experienced with all your memories of the NBA?

I was actually surprised to see how many people on that 4th video only use broadcast, I actually thought most people still used 2k.

Well, I never watched basketball on TV and still don't, so I have no TV experience with it. All my basketball joy came from playing. Even my favorite sport, baseball, I never watched on TV. I'd listen on the radio and that was the #1 sport I played.

Dee4Three wrote:I see the "seeing up the court better" as a decent reason, however, I feel like otherwise it has to many limitations. I think catching the ball in the corner, and driving hard baseline is a big part of basketball (I play, and its a huge part of a perimeter players game), as well as a post up players game to spin baseline (See David Robinson/Hakeem/Ewing, etc).

In regards to seeing up the court better, broadcast with height 5 and zoom 1 or 2, allows you to get a board and see about to halfcourt (roughly), in 2k, they discourage the long pass so much that 99% of the time the ball goes sailing over the players head after the pass anyway. So for me, that is zero impact. And it also seems that the CPU In this game refrains from making those long passes anyway.

I guess I think of it as the whole experience, like when you boot up the game and start playing. Wouldn't you want the experience that you have experienced with all your memories of the NBA?

I was actually surprised to see how many people on that 4th video only use broadcast, I actually thought most people still used 2k.

Well, I never watched basketball on TV and still don't, so I have no TV experience with it. All my basketball joy came from playing. Even my favorite sport, baseball, I never watched on TV. I'd listen on the radio and that was the #1 sport I played.

While I still don't see the advantage to the view, THIS makes a whole lot of sense.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

I know you are being sarcastic, but I'll be serious for a second here. From my experience watching Ronnie 2k, he is not good at the game. I have watched plenty of him on his pre-release episodes, and he plays like a super casual player that is limited on what he can do. He may be good at marketing for them (Not always with dealing with us consumers directly, though), but he is not very good at the game.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

Dee4Three wrote:I see the "seeing up the court better" as a decent reason, however, I feel like otherwise it has to many limitations. I think catching the ball in the corner, and driving hard baseline is a big part of basketball (I play, and its a huge part of a perimeter players game), as well as a post up players game to spin baseline (See David Robinson/Hakeem/Ewing, etc).

In regards to seeing up the court better, broadcast with height 5 and zoom 1 or 2, allows you to get a board and see about to halfcourt (roughly), in 2k, they discourage the long pass so much that 99% of the time the ball goes sailing over the players head after the pass anyway. So for me, that is zero impact. And it also seems that the CPU In this game refrains from making those long passes anyway.

I guess I think of it as the whole experience, like when you boot up the game and start playing. Wouldn't you want the experience that you have experienced with all your memories of the NBA?

I was actually surprised to see how many people on that 4th video only use broadcast, I actually thought most people still used 2k.

Well, I never watched basketball on TV and still don't, so I have no TV experience with it. All my basketball joy came from playing. Even my favorite sport, baseball, I never watched on TV. I'd listen on the radio and that was the #1 sport I played.

While I still don't see the advantage to the view, THIS makes a whole lot of sense.

In my case, it's a lot easier to move my player around 'naturally'. If I want to go right across to the other side of the court, I push the stick right. If I want to drive the basket, I push it forward, etc. I tried playing from the side view but it just threw me off completely, especially passing. Anyway, I guess it's a matter of personal preference. Everyone has their own way.

Dee4Three wrote:I see the "seeing up the court better" as a decent reason, however, I feel like otherwise it has to many limitations. I think catching the ball in the corner, and driving hard baseline is a big part of basketball (I play, and its a huge part of a perimeter players game), as well as a post up players game to spin baseline (See David Robinson/Hakeem/Ewing, etc).

In regards to seeing up the court better, broadcast with height 5 and zoom 1 or 2, allows you to get a board and see about to halfcourt (roughly), in 2k, they discourage the long pass so much that 99% of the time the ball goes sailing over the players head after the pass anyway. So for me, that is zero impact. And it also seems that the CPU In this game refrains from making those long passes anyway.

I guess I think of it as the whole experience, like when you boot up the game and start playing. Wouldn't you want the experience that you have experienced with all your memories of the NBA?

I was actually surprised to see how many people on that 4th video only use broadcast, I actually thought most people still used 2k.

Well, I never watched basketball on TV and still don't, so I have no TV experience with it. All my basketball joy came from playing. Even my favorite sport, baseball, I never watched on TV. I'd listen on the radio and that was the #1 sport I played.

While I still don't see the advantage to the view, THIS makes a whole lot of sense.

In my case, it's a lot easier to move my player around 'naturally'. If I want to go right across to the other side of the court, I push the stick right. If I want to drive the basket, I push it forward, etc. I tried playing from the side view but it just threw me off completely, especially passing. Anyway, I guess it's a matter of personal preference. Everyone has their own way.

I can totally agree with that, certainly a matter of preference. PeacemanNOT above mentioned the competitive gamers playing on 2k view, and I think its almost a "Habit preference". As in, if you got used to the movement playing on broadcast (like, for years playing on broadcast), you would prefer that.

I think I was more getting down to how people accept not using the baseline, the jumping camera, and the rotating camera. But, I guess if you have played on it for YEARS, it would just be normal.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

I've always enjoyed broadcast the most but I try to use every camera angle when the game comes out. Especially since I like to enjoy the view of newly added mods. Sometimes I will use the nosebleeds camera if I have a new stadium mod and want to enjoy the view of the nice looking courts and such. Eventually I do end up back in broadcast but I will say that 2K17 is the game in which I have used 2K cam the most.

Maybe it was a result of watching too many 2K youtubers or maybe curiosity but, If I go back to an older game I have to play in broadcast if I'm trying to win.

Next gen 2K angle is not good. On last gen 2K view was better. This or last year they messed with it and kinda screwed up. Actually I'm using HIGH camera. Similar to 2k but more dynamic and can see stuff better.

Celtics and Kristaps Porzingis fan from Latvia.Not much else to know really.

A clarification: in MyCAREER, I'm actually playing on the "Turbo" camera angle, which is always behind the player, smoothly rotating as necessary, and there's no "flip". In 2K Pro-Am, I'm using 2K cam (though I'm going to have to see if Turbo is available), which is behind the player on offense, in front of the player on defense, and has the "flip" at halfcourt. In all non-player locked modes, I'm using Broadcast Stadium (the authentic broadcast angle). In MyPARK, I'm using a broadcast-style sideline view (I'm guessing the generic one).

I feel like all of that switching camera angles could throw off playing consistency, no?

As in, I'm guessing it takes a small amount of time to adjust back to a specific camera angle after playing on others.

I'm a big user of all the moves the game has to offer, and being able to see the baseline and distance from the hoop/distance from defender to execute. I am so used to how the dribbling/other moves feel on broadcast.

The 2k view seems the same to me now as it did on last gen 2k, but maybe that's because I don't like it and seldom use it.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

CelticsPorzingod wrote:Next gen 2K angle is not good. On last gen 2K view was better. This or last year they messed with it and kinda screwed up. Actually I'm using HIGH camera. Similar to 2k but more dynamic and can see stuff better.

I should also note that my controller configuration is set to Absolute, so on top of different modes and playing styles, there's no adjustment on the sticks going between camera angles. Of course, that would be my preferred setting even if I was just using the one camera angle across all modes, as I don't like the Camera Relative approach.

It's definitely that way with me. NBA Live's right stick dribbling has always been Absolute, so that's what I've been accustomed to since 2002. I prefer to have uniform controls regardless of my position or camera angle. As I said, it's probably one of the reasons why I don't have any trouble going between different cameras in different modes.

When I play competitively (Online/Park/Pro-Am/MyLEAGUE) I use 2K cam. Someone called me out during my blacktop series on YouTube that I would only run my offense on the near camera side when playing with Broadcast-type cameras. I looked at some of my shot charts and realized they were right....so I switched.

When I'm just messing around or playing Blacktop, I use Beluba, I love the closeups that camera has during gameplay.

JaoSming wrote:When I play competitively (Online/Park/Pro-Am/MyLEAGUE) I use 2K cam. Someone called me out during my blacktop series on YouTube that I would only run my offense on the near camera side when playing with Broadcast-type cameras. I looked at some of my shot charts and realized they were right....so I switched.

When I'm just messing around or playing Blacktop, I use Beluba, I love the closeups that camera has during gameplay.

Always Absolute settings for controls because of Live 2003+.

It's funny, I used Beluba a bit as well with 2k14, and I enjoyed it.

In regards to shooting more on the close side, I've also looked at my shot charts, and they are even on both. But again, I think it's because I've just used the view for so long, that I'm comfortable everywhere on the floor.

It would be cool at some point to play against someone on here online, with one person using 2k cam, the other using broadcast cam, and see how it pans out. Also, with one person using camera relative, and the other using absolute. We could broadcast it as well.

"I don't know if I practiced more than anybody, but I sure practiced enough. I still wonder if somebody - somewhere - was practicing more than me." - Larry Bird

JaoSming wrote:When I play competitively (Online/Park/Pro-Am/MyLEAGUE) I use 2K cam. Someone called me out during my blacktop series on YouTube that I would only run my offense on the near camera side when playing with Broadcast-type cameras. I looked at some of my shot charts and realized they were right....so I switched.

When I'm just messing around or playing Blacktop, I use Beluba, I love the closeups that camera has during gameplay.

Always Absolute settings for controls because of Live 2003+.

I wouldn't be surprised if I've had a similar habit playing with broadcast angles over the years. I think I vary it up more these days, but I'd have to check the shot chart and see.