thegreatone287 -
Vinny has beaten Buchecha before would of that come into play?

I saw that. By heel hook back in 2009 i think. He's done a lot since then. Fared very well vs. Roger and Rodolfo last year. I think those two would have been favored over anybody in the world in open weight and I think the consensus was that he looked better than either of them. Vinny and Cyborg are great. I am still surprised they are favored over Buchecha even on an opening line

thegreatone287 -
Vinny has beaten Buchecha before would of that come into play?

I saw that. By heel hook back in 2009 i think. He's done a lot since then. Fared very well vs. Roger and Rodolfo last year. I think those two would have been favored over anybody in the world in open weight and I think the consensus was that he looked better than either of them. Vinny and Cyborg are great. I am still surprised they are favored over Buchecha even on an opening line

Davi Ramos beat Buchecha at the absolute of Abu Dhabi Pro in 2012 (toe hold) , one year Buchecha had competed against Vinny;Jonatas "Tagarela" Gurgel tapped him out with a RNC in 2011 (nogi)Vinny tapped him out also with a Toe hold in 2011 (nogi), before Vinny was even before Vinny was ADCC Champion.

Buchecha has been tapped out in nogi matches while Vinny has posted here before that he has never been tapped out in nogi matches. One of Buchecha's losses was to Vinny.

Rules in ADCC Allow many things that are not allowed in ANY gi competition, including leg reaping, heels hooks, Slamming to defend submissions , etc.

In 2011 Rodolfo was then what Buchecha is today, the Absolute "GI" BJJ World Champion, and was supposed to run through everyone in ADCC. He did well, until he faced Dean Lister and got tapped out.

That being said, I think Buchecha will do well, until he faces someone like Vinny or Cyborg who are competing in the ADCC for the 3rd time and have more experience under those rules.

Vaginal Tear - Davi Ramos beat Buchecha at the absolute of Abu Dhabi Pro in 2012 (toe hold) , one year Buchecha had competed against Vinny;Jonatas "Tagarela" Gurgel tapped him out with a RNC in 2011 (nogi)Vinny tapped him out also with a Toe hold in 2011 (nogi), before Vinny was even before Vinny was ADCC Champion.

Buchecha has been tapped out in nogi matches while Vinny has posted here before that he has never been tapped out in nogi matches. One of Buchecha's losses was to Vinny.

Rules in ADCC Allow many things that are not allowed in ANY gi competition, including leg reaping, heels hooks, Slamming to defend submissions , etc.

In 2011 Rodolfo was then what Buchecha is today, the Absolute "GI" BJJ World Champion, and was supposed to run through everyone in ADCC. He did well, until he faced Dean Lister and got tapped out.

That being said, I think Buchecha will do well, until he faces someone like Vinny or Cyborg who are competing in the ADCC for the 3rd time and have more experience under those rules.

Vaginal Tear - Davi Ramos beat Buchecha at the absolute of Abu Dhabi Pro in 2012 (toe hold) , one year Buchecha had competed against Vinny;Jonatas "Tagarela" Gurgel tapped him out with a RNC in 2011 (nogi)Vinny tapped him out also with a Toe hold in 2011 (nogi), before Vinny was even before Vinny was ADCC Champion.

Buchecha has been tapped out in nogi matches while Vinny has posted here before that he has never been tapped out in nogi matches. One of Buchecha's losses was to Vinny.

Rules in ADCC Allow many things that are not allowed in ANY gi competition, including leg reaping, heels hooks, Slamming to defend submissions , etc.

In 2011 Rodolfo was then what Buchecha is today, the Absolute "GI" BJJ World Champion, and was supposed to run through everyone in ADCC. He did well, until he faced Dean Lister and got tapped out.

That being said, I think Buchecha will do well, until he faces someone like Vinny or Cyborg who are competing in the ADCC for the 3rd time and have more experience under those rules.

Great username and great post

I didn't even realize buchecha was in the ultimate absolute 2011. I remember Vinny doing real well in that tourney and the epic final with Rustam and Galvao. Looks like the toehold has been his downfall since vinny and ramos both got him with it. Iv'e seen ramos at the no gi pan ams and he has some mean foot locks. But mad props to him since he is way smaller than buchecha. I guess my question has been answered

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