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Thursday, February 11, 2010

McNinney In Europe

We've done a hostile takeover of Haiti? And I do love the banner of Che behind her.

I'd like to propose a toast on Che Guevara. Dorothy, would you like to join me?

"There was no person more feared by the company (CIA) than Che Guevara because he had the capacity and charisma necessary to direct the struggle against the political repression of the traditional hierarchies in power in the countries of Latin America.— Philip Agee, CIA agent,later defected to Cuba"

As long as you propose a toast to Augusto Pinochet, Alfredo Stroessner, Rafael Trujillo, Jorge Rafael Videla, Jean-Claude Duvalier, Manuel Noriega, and many other murderous thugs that, mercifully, are largely relics of the past in Latin America.

I'll raise a toast to Michelle Bachelet, feminist icon and symbol of the democratic future in Latin America, as well as the many prisoners of conscience languishing in Cuban jails.

I'll raise a toast to Michelle Bachelet, feminist icon and symbol of the democratic future in Latin AmericaDamn straight! There's a sane left in Latin America, Chavez is the outlier. Chile is probably the biggest success story in that entire continent as far as transition from dictatorship to democracy goes. Plus their wine is awesome.

Well, that's why I said "largely". According to Freedom House, every country in the Americas is an electoral democracy save three: Cuba, Venezuela, and Honduras following the military coup. It's not good that these three are out there, but it's a far cry from the days of Operation Condor.

"Well, that's why I said "largely". According to Freedom House, every country in the Americas is an electoral democracy save three: Cuba, Venezuela, and Honduras following the military coup. It's not good that these three are out there, but it's a far cry from the days of Operation Condor."

And in all three, the CIA fucked around long enough with its dirty stinking imperial paws to totally fuck up the system. Hat tip to the S.O.A.

Which is why Cuba and Venezuela are run by leftists who are bitter opponents of the US. Because the CIA wanted it this way."

No, because they fucked up.

Bay of Pigs: fail. Castro assassination attempts: fail. Then they killed JFK instead. Orlando Bosch Avila, the anti-Castro cuban terrorist was there in Dallas, just lounging on the pavement. (Unless you buy his ridiculous alibi). Fucking terrorist scumbag.

Venezuela? Have you seen the documentary? The coup failed. They tried though, despicable fascist interventionists. Now we have a megalomaniac with revenge fantasies. Great job! It will provide us with an excuse to invade and grab that oil soon enough. The logistics are a dream. I've heard the crescendo of the war drums over there, haven't you? We'll wait and see.

"As for Honduras, the coup was carried out against a leftist president and, rather than getting support from the US, the coup leaders received condemnation."

"Condemnation". ROFLMAO. Like a Godfather expressing his "condemnation" over the murder of his rival. Do you actually believe that bullshit? I followed it closely. Obama acted out his PR theatrics in true Machiavellian swagger. Zelaya is gone, with help from the S.O.A., just as the US wanted. Do these motherfuckers take us for fools? Do you take us for fools? Do you actually believe one word Obama says? He's a freaking joker, a puppet, a PR stunt, a deceptionist, damage control, a pathological liar who is only interested in pushing through some weak liberal pipe-dreams from a weak liberal vanguard, the mild wing of the one party system. I read his book. The guy is a freaking emotionless psychopath with an identity crisis.

"And then there's Grenada and Panama, both of which were invaded by the US in my lifetime. Both of which are now stable democracies."I know too little about those two to comment, to be honest.

Yet you babble incoherently about JFK conspiracies, Chavez' paranoia, and how Obama is a psychopath.

Please, take the ritalin your parents got for you, finish high school (and be careful not to call your American history teacher a fascist lackey), go to college, and check back in with us in ten years when a) you've calmed down, and b) you have a clue what the fuck you're talking about.

"Yet you babble incoherently about JFK conspiracies, Chavez' paranoia, and how Obama is a psychopath."

Blablabla, pathologically lying scumbag. Your reading comprehension problems are not your get-out-of-jail-free-card. If fail to grasp, then sit your stupid ass down in front of a game console and stay the hell away from discussion. Or alternatively, try holding your breath for an hour.

Please, take the ritalin your parents got for you, finish high school (and be careful not to call your American history teacher a fascist lackey),

Aha...Ritalin eh? Are you on meds? Somebody you love and care about, hmm? Is that why you brought this up? And you wish it was me instead, right?

go to college, and check back in with us in ten years when a) you've calmed down, and b) you have a clue what the fuck you're talking about.

Been there, done that. Now, the reason I'm not calming down is because I don't suffer fools gladly, and I have zero tolerance for the travesty of fact that slithers from the rotten sewers of dishonesty that is your diseased little stooge brain. I have zero sympathy for foolhardy twits like yourself with a superiority complex. I will ADMIT when I know or don't know something, while blithering halfwits like yourself will just continue to talk out of their asses. That is your MO, and you know it. Massage the facts around the ideological framework, righty right, Winston?

Now go look up "Dunning-Kruger syndrome", and don't come back until you understand what it is you need to work on in order to heal from this delusional worldview in which the United States is exclusively a beacon of freedom, and its fucking secret services somehow did Latin America a fucking favor. COCKROACH.

You know, as much as I enjoy poking you, I'm worried that I'm going to read about how you shot up your high school one of these days, given the death fantasies you have for everyone who disagrees with your loony worldview.

Aha...Ritalin eh? Are you on meds?

Uh, I took a couple of aspirin last night....

Been there, done that. Now, the reason I'm not calming down is because I don't suffer fools gladly, and I have zero tolerance for the travesty of fact that slithers from the rotten sewers of dishonesty that is your diseased little stooge brain. I have zero sympathy for foolhardy twits like yourself with a superiority complex. I will ADMIT when I know or don't know something, while blithering halfwits like yourself will just continue to talk out of their asses. That is your MO, and you know it. Massage the facts around the ideological framework, righty right, Winston?

False. You're just a parrot that repeats paranoid far-left taking points without knowing anything about them. I hate to tell you this, but you're really late to the party on this one.

Now go look up "Dunning-Kruger syndrome", and don't come back until you understand what it is you need to work on in order to heal from this delusional worldview in which the United States is exclusively a beacon of freedom, and its fucking secret services somehow did Latin America a fucking favor.

Nice straw man. Please quote me where I said the US is exclusively a beacon of freedom or that they did Latin America "favors".

COCKROACH

Please don't take your father's shotgun to school on Monday and start shooting the jocks who make fun of you.

Castro assassination attempts: fail. Then they killed JFK instead. Orlando Bosch Avila, the anti-Castro cuban terrorist was there in Dallas, just lounging on the pavement. (Unless you buy his ridiculous alibi). Fucking terrorist scumbag.

Good grief, The CIA bumped off Kennedy crap? Is there a conspiracy theory you don’t endorse?

Venezuela? Have you seen the documentary? The coup failed. They tried though, despicable fascist interventionists. Now we have a megalomaniac with revenge fantasies. Great job! It will provide us with an excuse to invade and grab that oil soon enough. The logistics are a dream. I've heard the crescendo of the war drums over there, haven't you? We'll wait and see.

You are simply endorsing Chavez propaganda verbatim. Let’s look at this one for a second. Suppose the claim is true, who would the US send to invade Venezuela? The US military seems to be tied down elsewhere, or haven’t you heard.

"Condemnation" [regarding the coup in Honduras]. ROFLMAO. Like a Godfather expressing his "condemnation" over the murder of his rival. Do you actually believe that bullshit? I followed it closely. Obama acted out his PR theatrics in true Machiavellian swagger. Zelaya is gone, with help from the S.O.A., just as the US wanted. Do these motherfuckers take us for fools? Do you take us for fools? Do you actually believe one word Obama says?

I believe Obama a helluva lot more than I’d believe a stupid America-hating moron such as you. There were NO US personnel involved in Zelaya’s ouster, none. In the end they may not be sorry he is gone but there isn’t any evidence they had any part in booting him out. In your zeal to blame the US for EVERYTHING bad, you overlook the simple fact that would be dictators like Zelaya, Chavez and Castro aren’t universally loved in their own countries. If you knew anything about Venezuela, you’d know Chavez just shut down a critical news station and the country is undergoing widespread rationing of electricity and water. Lack of public services and anti-democratic actions can sour publics on their governments without the nefarious CIA plotting in the background. Just because you need a conspiracy theory to explain everything doesn’t mean its true.

You know, as much as I enjoy poking you, I'm worried that I'm going to read about how you shot up your high school one of these days, given the death fantasies you have for everyone who disagrees with your loony worldview.

Ha ha ha. So far off. All I'm doing is providing you with helpful suggestions to improve this planet by removing you from it. For example:

"Uh, I took a couple of aspirin last night...."

Please just take 150 next time! =) The headache I caused you will go away forever, I promise!

False. You're just a parrot that repeats paranoid far-left taking points without knowing anything about them. I hate to tell you this, but you're really late to the party on this one.

This is so unfair! I have no problem parroting paranoid far-right talking points without knowing anything about them either!

But anyways, I didn't know the people of Latin America systemically tortured, murdered, and deprived of their self-determination because of American intervention were simply parroting paranoid talking points!

You are brilliant sir! Now go over there with your retarded subnormal mental faculties and explain them that,fuckwit gringo. You're going to be a beloved public speaker.

Nice straw man. Please quote me where I said the US is exclusively a beacon of freedom or that they did Latin America "favors".

I love the implicit racism of Roid Rage's assertions that Latin American dictatorships are all the fault of the CIA. As we all know, those cave-dwelling brown-skinned people couldn't possibly be independent actors capable of controlling their own destiny.

Also, the significant chunk of Chile's population that still loves Pinochet? Brainwashed by the CIA, I'm sure.

It's also hilarious to read the unhinged rantings of an ignoramus like Roid Rage as he wishes death upon people he doesn't know while speaking for millions of others (all brainwashed, of course) he never met.

I'm guessing he doesn't get laid much. I'd love to see him react to rejection from a woman: he probably tells her to go die while screaming about how she's a brainwashed kookloon ultra-nationalist who watched Fox News.

Do you really believe Oswald acted alone? What...do you believe Ruby acted alone too? Hmmm? Are you a fucking brainless twat? A shot from the back violently moves the head to the back? Oh it was his back brace? A spinal reflex? ROFL!! Yeah, driving Kennedy in an open car through a town that screamed for his death. No secret service on the car, which slows down as he gets shot long enough to get the job done.

Did you catch Oswald saying he was a patsy? Ruby saying powerful people were behind it?

Oh nevermind. You're terminally gullible. You'll swallow the most laughable goddamn lies as long as they keep you from accepting the unthinkable. Abroad, this shit of course happens all the time because it's not America, right? Is that it, you tottering dumbbell?

Is there a conspiracy theory you don’t endorse?

Yeah, the one where events conspired to grant you even the minimum intelligence expected from a FUCKING LAB RAT.

You are simply endorsing Chavez propaganda verbatim. Let’s look at this one for a second. Suppose the claim is true, who would the US send to invade Venezuela? The US military seems to be tied down elsewhere, or haven’t you heard.

Multi-theater wars, get prepared for it as the black gold that fuels the economy (and, increasingly, the exponentially growing Asian economies) runs dry.

Or simply stay blissfully unaware, like the arrogant somnambulist that you are.

Just because you need a conspiracy theory to explain everything doesn’t mean its true.

S.O.A., dimwit. That's where they train.

Just because you need coincidence and incompetence to explain everything in your naive childlike perception of this world doesn't mean you should bother adults with your yammering denialist jibber-jabber. Capiche, fucktard?

I love the implicit racism of Roid Rage's assertions that Latin American dictatorships are all the fault of the CIA. As we all know, those cave-dwelling brown-skinned people couldn't possibly be independent actors capable of controlling their own destiny.

You, you'd rather bomb the shit out of them for events your government could have prevented, but deliberately didn't. If all else fails, play the race card, eh, traveling freak show?

Also, the significant chunk of Chile's population that still loves Pinochet? Brainwashed by the CIA, I'm sure.

They are like you. They are a byproduct of the inherent stupidity of the Universe.

It's also hilarious to read the unhinged rantings of an ignoramus like Roid Rage as he wishes death upon people he doesn't know while speaking for millions of others (all brainwashed, of course) he never met.

Yeah, you've met them all before you endorse bombing them over lies.

Isn't that what it is, bitch ass?

I'm guessing he doesn't get laid much. I'd love to see him react to rejection from a woman: he probably tells her to go die while screaming about how she's a brainwashed kookloon ultra-nationalist who watched Fox News.

Ah, the enraged closet homosexual. Just because your shrimp dick can't do the job and shoots blanks, it doesn't mean you should bring your frustrations online, Dr. Do Little.

Poor,poor pitiful NY,er.His elaborations on the history of Latin America should be done in crayon and shown to his mother before he stumbles so miserably on the world stage.Jeepers guy,don't you know anything? And will someone tell Johnny Smoke that the National Health Service offers stress reduction options including massages and acupuncture."Che killed hundreds of thousands of people....?!? Get your brain out of the brine shack and lie down for a while Bozo,because that's just plain dumb.

Unlike you, I don’t come to my conclusions simply based on what is convenient to my ideology, as you obviously do. I don’t truly know the motivations of Oswald, or Ruby for that matter and I don’t know if anyone put Oswald up to the job. I DO know that the most common conspiracy theory claim that Kennedy was a closet pacifist leftist and was ready to pull out of Vietnam and the NWO of the day needed to get LBJ in office so he would fullfill their desire for war is a total crock. JFK was a classic Cold War liberal dedicated to following the conventional foreign policy consensus of the day and was a pro-CIA as any President. That some Cuban expats might have been bitter about the Bay of Pigs doesn’t prove what you morons would today call the NWO wanted him bumped off. Once you dismiss the supposed motivation, the whole CIA killed Kennedy bullshit doesn’t make any sense. Actually, being a twoofer, I’m surprised you even fall for this in the first place. Your types likes claim the US is rotten to the core and run by a corporate cabal intent on imposing US corporate domination of the world and how every President is their dupe, but somehow JFK was an exception? Give me a break, besides being baseless your idiotic conspiracy theories are contradictory.

Patrick from Cincinnati said... More Russia Today bullshit ...

Yeah, you’d think they would lay off the “bash the US in every way possible” skit when relations started warming, but I guess old habits die hard.

I don't know about hundreds of thousands but he killed plenty and was responsible for the deaths of many more. Plus he was eager to start armed conflict on every contentinent possible. Are you loons going to claim he was Ghandi?

More mush from the wimps here at the World Headquarters of the insane Debunker Cult.In the words of the pitiful ConsDumDum:"Unlike you I don't come to my conclusions simply based on what is convenient to my ideology".Yea,sure OK,we've got you.As if your pro US Imperialism ideology isn't transparently obvious.Fact is the 9 of you regulars are beyond ideologues and into the lunatic Yahoo section.PornBoy being the prime example.

As a reformed JFK conspiracy jackass I feel that I can speak with authority on that subject, and the asshat-baffoonery that surrounds it.

I once bought ALL of the JFK assassination BS...then I actually went to Dallas. Standing at the spot where the fatal head-shot went down one thing became clear:

It was an easy shot.

Oh my god, my grandmother could have nailed it.

300 feet with a high-powered rifle? Plus the Mannlicher round is so powerful (it was prized by big-game hunters in the early 20th Century because it could penitrate an elephant's skull) that I'm suprised the President's head didn't completely explode-zombie style.

At the end of the day, Lee Oswald shot and killed JFK with HIS OWN rifle. Two out of three shots, which is consistant with his shooting scores while he was in the Marines: Not great, but got the job done.

I know, now that I don't buy the JFK BS anymore, I am no longer special. I no longer am the keeper of secret knowledge that makes me better than everyone else. My doodoo now stinks like the unwashed.

Wow, so refusing to agree with the totally baseless claim the US orchestrated an attack on itself makes on "pro US imperialism"? Who knew? You better tell Noam Chomsky, George Moinbot and Ron Paul quick!

You, you'd rather bomb the shit out of them for events your government could have prevented, but deliberately didn't.

Sigh....so we're LIHOP now? OK, evidence, please? War is an awful thing and the less of it going on, the better, but sometimes, as after 9/11, it's justified. I'm not a moral absolutist on anything.

If all else fails, play the race card, eh, traveling freak show?

I'm not the one who thinks all dark-skinned people are helpless pawns in the white man's chess game. Since you haven't told us yet, can you let me know what part the CIA played in the Cenepa War between Peru and Ecuador, and in the war between Ethiopia and Eritrea?

(pause while Roid Rage scrambles to look these conflicts up on wikipedia, determine who the "bad guys" were, and blame their actions on the CIA)

They are like you. They are a byproduct of the inherent stupidity of the Universe.

Yes, if only the rest of the world was more like angry teenagers, it would be such a better place.

Isn't that what it is, bitch ass?

Bitch ass? So your parents approve of you listening to Dr. Dre? My mom didn't like it that I had NWA CDs when I was in middle school.

Ah, the enraged closet homosexual. Just because your shrimp dick can't do the job and shoots blanks, it doesn't mean you should bring your frustrations online, Dr. Do Little.

Yet another homophobe in the "truth" movement....

But I'm sure the whole crumbling cover-up is going to be exposed any day now, after all, Roid Rage called me "bitch ass"!

'theres a massive well of abiotic oil under haiti. thats why were (sic) occupying it.'

Did 'we' cause the earthquake as well? Mong.

'There was no person more feared by the company (CIA) than Che Guevara because he had the capacity and charisma necessary to direct the struggle against the political repression of the traditional hierarchies in power in the countries of Latin America'

RR, I don't suppose you noticed that Agee (after his defection) became a paid agent of the DGI (Cuban intelligence). No wonder he was so complimentary about Castro's companero. It's a bit of a shame those Bolivian peasants who shopped him to the military in 1967 weren't so convinced of his reputation as a freedom fighter.

Anyway, that's just one of Che's more endearing traits, as well as his summary execution of hundreds of Cubans after 1959, his demand that the Soviets launch a nuclear strike on the USA at the height of the Cuban missile crisis, and his attempt to provoke a revolution in the Congo in 1965, when he teamed up with that renowned freedom fighter and humanitarian, Laurent Kabila.

"Summary executions"?!?! How do you come up with such bad lies? There were tribunals held in Cuba after the revolution.They were televised.In those tribunals Batista's murdering,torturing Brown Shirts were identified and met their fate.Yes,a tough fate for the scumbag assassins and thugs,but called for by the aggrieved Cuban population and totally justified.Only an antique crackpot like yourself would characterize this as some kind of example of Che's "evil".Of course,you expose yourself as an addled windbag when you insist that by fomenting revolution in oppressed populations Che was worthy of condemnation.I suppose all those American pamphleteers and activists in the 18th century Colonies inciting rebellion were somehow lowlifes.If you knew anything you would know that Che left the Congo in disgust because Laurent Kabila and his gang weren't his idea of a force for positive change there,feeling they were only in it for themselves.In other words Bozo McPintglass,Che condemned Kabila bitterly.As usual,you are lightly informed and wildly off the mark! But when you only read the Sun and the Telegraph you will have only part of the story.You may be a star,screeching at the pub and typing madly before you pass out but clearly you are a Right Wing Troglodyte who really hasn;t boned up on anything besides your own prejudices.At ease,Soldier Dumbass!!

"'There was no person more feared by the company (CIA) than Che Guevara because he had the capacity and charisma necessary to direct the struggle against the political repression of the traditional hierarchies in power in the countries of Latin America'"

He was a loser thug who couldn't get a revolution started, and who got his ass shot by the Man.

"Summary executions"?!?! How do you come up with such bad lies? There were tribunals held in Cuba after the revolution.

Once again, blinded by ideology. Before you just regurgitate your "I love Che" talking points why don't you read up on him. Even his admirers such as John Lee Anderson (author of "Che Guevara: A Revolutionary Life") admit he engaged in summary executions of captured Cuban soldiers during the drive to overthrow Batista. He also had a tendency to force himself on the dark-skinned female hired help in his family's house when he was a young man in Argentina (Anderson and other Che acolytes recount this with macho admiration). Yeah, Che was a real "man of the people."

I know, I know, according to people like you all excesses committed by those committed to a far left or anti-American cause are given a pass. Viva Che! More executions and rapes please!!!!

" He also had a tendency to force himself on the dark-skinned female hired help in his family's house when he was a young man in Argentina (Anderson and other Che acolytes recount this with macho admiration)."

'"Summary executions"?!?! How do you come up with such bad lies? There were tribunals held in Cuba after the revolution.'

Look Walt, you know as much about history as you do about posing successfully online as an Iraq veteran, namely, fuck all. So give it up, OK?

Incidentally, I suspect if I ask you to substantiate your claim about the Americans funding the Khmer Rouge I'll have to wait for some time. After all, you still haven't provided me with the link that proves the FBI verified the ISI's transfer of funds to Atta, you still haven't explained exactly when Omar Sayid Sheikh was recruited by Mossad and SIS (and how none of his Jaish e Mohamed pals noticed), and you still can't explain why your genius Shaffer placed Atta in Brooklyn in 1999 - during which year he was either in Hamburg completing his degree, or in Afghanistan training to be a jihadi.

You'll always be a coward and a fraud, and an exceptionally stupid arsehole even by truther standards.

Most of Latin America seems to be over the Cold War. Why are some in the West still so bitter over it? Is it 'cus your beloved Soviet Union didn't win?Michelle Bachelet, whose father was murdered by Pinochet's thugs, doesn't express half the hatred I hear from people in the West. Neither do Argentinian leaders nor Brazilian ones. Aside from Chavez and a few Harvard professors, it seems like the Western Hemisphere is moving on. Rising powers like Brazil are eager to assume positions once filled by Russia and the US.

And before you accuse me of ultra-nationalist kookloonery, I'm not claiming we "won" either, just that the Soviet Union failed to export its political model to Latin America. And Latin America is much better off because of it.

Chester the Molester,aka Sock Puppet #16 for Crazy Ronald the CIA waterboy,tell Sack of DirtyDiapers that Prince Norodom Sihanouk has some important information and facts he needs to catch up on.No doubt the British Army pantywaist will be contacting Shaffer soon and asking him for a link (whoops,2.5 terabytes of the Able Danger program have been disappeared)on the jihadists being tracked.Or was that handled?

PornBoy and Soldier Sad Sack sure have things sussed.They'd probably argue that Israel never funded Hamas and you have to appreciate the wacky flip of their lids when you mention the undeniable fact that the CIA has been bringing narcotics into the country for decades.Just say no Nancy!! All Sackdoily can muster is that the 9/11 Commission report said that Atta....blah blah,woof woof.

More weak brew from the thoroughly beached Debunker Cult.Relegated to goofing on activists and working out their drunken frat boy routines,they toss off ludicrous statements like:"Anthony Shaffer is old news".It'll never be old news that the FBI,the DIA,the CIA and half the intelligence agencies in the world knew planes would be hijacked by "Islamist operatives" and crashed into iconic American buildings on the East Coast.When your cult is in the position of asserting that military men like Shaffer are out to screw the country then it's time to admit you're part of catapulting the propaganda.

Shaffer is irrelevant. All he has is his own allegations. Any evidence he might have had has long since been destroyed. Good luck with your next whistle blower! Maybe you'll get one willing to do more than insinuate that the government fucked up.

Another howler from Arseholie. The IDF tolerated al-Mujamma Al-Islami, a 'charity' set up by the founder of Hamas (Sheikh Ahmed Yassin) in 1978 as a counterweight to the PLO. They did not fund it, or Hamas (see David Eshel in 'Jane's Intelligence Review', 14/1, January 2002). Still, at least he's given up claiming that Che's victims got a free and fair trial. But I'm still waiting for hin to show me that the FBI confirmed the Atta-Ahmed money transfer, and to explain how Able Danger placed Atta in Brooklyn when he was thousands of miles away.

Still, I live in hope that he might one day construct a coherent sentence.

'A Mick-Kraut eh? so you're like 75% of White Americans? How boring! And I thought you were Welsh!'

Arseholie managed to spend 3 years living in the UK without realising that not everyone of its citizens would describe themselves as 'English', so I doubt very much that he has any Celtic connections.

'It'll never be old news that the FBI,the DIA,the CIA and half the intelligence agencies in the world knew planes would be hijacked by "Islamist operatives" and crashed into iconic American buildings on the East Coast'.

You know what, Walt. Where I come from, whenever we make an assertion we back it up with something called 'evidence'. You might want to try it sometime.