Saturday, February 06, 2010

There is 24 inches of snow outside my house. Hey, I love living on the east coast and enjoying the four seasons, but one more winter like this and I could be taking my black ass back to Jamaica, mon.

So tonight I am thinking about threats to our homeland. And not just the ones coming from Middle Eastern men with funny names, or the street pirates who like to terrorize urban A-merry-ca while seeking a quick buck. Nope, tonight I am focusing on those domestic terrorist. The ones who want to take down our republic from within. The ones who have their own ideas about what the republic should look like and who should be controlling it. I want to bring attention to them by focusing on one gentleman (and I use that term very loosely) in particular. His name is Charles Alan Dyer, and heaven help us all if he is the poster child for the Teabag movement.

Hey, I know that my black conservative friends say that I have more to fear from the "street pirates" than I do from the Glenn Becks and teabaggers of the world, but I don't think so. The street pirates would have no shot against the forces of our government and proper law enforcement techniques, the domestic terrorist of right wing A-merry-ca, on the other hand, could become the new government. In fact, if folks like Dyer and some of the things that have been happening is any indication, they are infiltrating our military as I type this post. So yeah, I would say that they should cause all of us to be concerned.

" CINCINNATI) - Former Marine Sgt. Charles Alan Dyer, continually featured on patriotic videos supporting the Teabagger and Oathkeepers movements is currently jailed for sodomy with a 7-year old. Dyer, “bigger than life” enemy of “socialist” President Obama and major supporter of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the GOP, the darling of YouTube videos featuring weapons demonstrations and endless violent threats is now trying to raise $50,000 dollars for his bond. It is reported that Dyer faces federal charges for possession of a 40mm grenade launcher and state charges for sexual abuse of a minor.

He will be transferred to the Stephens County Oklahoma jail pending arraignment as soon as federal authorities turn him over.

One of the most massive internet cleansings in history is going on as Oathkeeper, Militia and Teabagger websites are searching for the hundreds of entries “July4Patriot” had made. Dyer’s following among domestic “resistance” and “militia” movements may number in the tens of thousands.

Dyer in action during a July 4th "Tea Party" in OklahomaIt has been confirmed from multiple sources that death threats have been made against any news agency that reports Dyer’s arrest."

Well, since I am not a "news agency" I think I am cool.- Although death threat from Mr. Dyer and his ilk would be nothing new.- So I can go ahead and tell you about Mr. Dyer's arrest.

My friends over at Jack & Jill have been all over this as well. (Although I think that they are more serious about this news thing than I am, so they better watch themselves.)

"He was taken into custody Tuesday by his former employer, the Stephen’s County Sheriff’s Dept, after being charged with committing forcible sodomy on a child in early January. A search of his home uncovered a weapons stockpile and a tip led authorities to search a storage unit rented by Dyer.

A specially trained canine alerted on the presence of explosives in the storage unit, but none were found. It is speculated, however, that Dyer had stored explosives there in the past. Special Agent Brett Williams of the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) filed a weapons complaint against Dyer in the U.S. District Court of Western Oklahoma. Dyer was charged with first degree rape and two counts of forcible sodomy in Stephens County. Now in federal custody, Dyer is claiming the stolen grenade launcher was given to him by a friend in California.

Currently Dyer is only accused and stands convicted of no crime.Dyer, sometimes identified as “Captain Dyer” is also said to have met with militia types in an attempt to buy fertilizer in quantities sufficient to become a major force in domestic agriculture. This same fertilizer was used by Timothy McVeigh to destroy the Oklahoma City Federal Building.

123 comments:

Unfortunately the forces on the Left nor the MSM will try to tie Mr. Dyer to Glenn Beck or Palin. Nope the MSM will not see any guilt by association unlike the crap they tried to do to Obama by repeating the GOP talking points tying him to Ayers and Rev. Wright.

The threat to our way of life in 'Mur-ka will not come from swarthy men with mooslim names but from our home-grown fundamentalist christians, mostly white and almost all with a red neck. That may upset some of your regular commentators but I think the evidence is hard to refute.

Gregory, have you been paying attention to what has happened in England and Europe and their Islamic immigration experiment? The second generation of the immigrants largely regret the move and seek to impose Sharia law on their neighborhoods and have in some cases succeeded in doing so. Make sure you know what this means.... before it comes here

"The second generation of the immigrants largely regret the move and seek to impose Sharia law on their neighborhoods and have in some cases succeeded in doing so. Make sure you know what this means.... before it comes here

szpork, I am far more familiar with what is going on in the UK that you might imagine. I suppose it would be pointless to go into the lengthy demographic differences between the two countries because I suspect that you are not someone who lets facts get in the way of a good story.

Radical Islam presents challenges to US national interests overseas and can present security threats in the US. However, the sharia that you fear will not be implemented by muslims but by Talibaptists and other christian fundies.

[quote]I know that my black conservative friends say that I have more to fear from the "street pirates" than I do from the Glenn Becks and teabaggers of the world, but I don't think so. The street pirates would have no shot against the forces of our government and proper law enforcement techniques, the domestic terrorist of right wing A-merry-ca, on the other hand, could become the new government[/quote]

Filled Negro:

Listen. I like you man.I need for you to just come out and say it:

BLACK PEOPLE ARE INFERIOR TO ME THAN ARE WHITE PEOPLE

_________________________________Signed Filled Negro

* The White man's bullets kill us more dead than what a Black man who purchased a similar box of shells from the same store right after the sales clerk finished checking out the White man and asking "Who's next?"

* The White man's fist and foot that beat the Black woman outside of the "Cracker Barrel" restaurant in metro-Atlanta this past summer was a greater assault than what the 3 Black Street pirates who forced 2 Black mothers to strip naked as they SHOT THEM BOTH IN THE HEAD - execution style.

Filled Negro - why don't you challenge the Street Pirates to attempt to TAKE OVER THE GOVERNMENT. THIS would give everyone the opportunity to see that DESPITE them making an EQUAL RUN ON THE GOVERNMENT ......you are still not prepared to raise them UP to the level that you have placed these "Right Wing Whites".

protect us from all enemiesforeign and domesticthat's why we're overseasoccupy, obfuscate, confusewhile the real thieves our true enemies, weaken usinternally, whittling and chippingeroding our constitutional rightsPonzi schemes, wealth depletionno oversight, suppressed regulationintransigent governanceblue dog democrats, tea baggersforeign and domesticthe real enemy is uswe the people our government, is a reflectiona mirror image, of our nationby the people, for the peoplewe have failedfailure is an optionthe brink has been metthe grades have been postedwe did not passthe question nowslow and inexorableor with gathering impetusshall we careen into the abyssAmerican exceptionalism is deadjust another toppled empirein the annals of historydestroyed not from withoutbut from our own hubris within

You people just don't get it, do you? you DISMISS everything that African American's should be aware of! who did you think this MAN had ALL those WEAPON'S for? but, trust me, he is NOT alone!

How many time's do I have to say (WHERE are ALL of these POOR looking WHITE FOLK getting this Money from, to BUY all these Weapon's)

Field Negro, I cover you in the BLOOD of Jesus and hide you behind the CROSS! you are RIGHT to POST this information!

You know it is being reported that, it is an Element of the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT that are FRINGE! CRAZY! out of CONTROL! REVOLUTIONARY! looking for TROUBLE! STARK RAVING MAD FOLK! and this is what GLENN BECK was aiming for! so it is not a surprise to me that this WHITE MAN, had ALL these WEAPON'S! think he had them to look at?

When you hear about TEA PARTY'S being Organized in place's like Arkansas, WATCH OUT! this is the DEEP SOUTH! those are the people BUYING UP GUN'S GALORE!

I watched Sarah Palin on C-SPAN! she BEAT DOWN the President! she was trying to make him look as if he was a complete FAILURE! I don't understand why we have a Black President and he Allow's a Mere WHITE WOMAN, to roam around AMERICA and disrespect him!

I thought by now, the President would have made TODD take his WIFE home! what is the President waiting for?

"Field Negro, I cover you in the BLOOD of Jesus and hide you behind the CROSS! you are RIGHT to POST this information!"

Thank you ISEEISEE, please continue to pray for me.

Filled Negro:

Listen. I like you man.I need for you to just come out and say it:

BLACK PEOPLE ARE INFERIOR TO ME THAN ARE WHITE PEOPLE"

[un]constructive one, stop projecting. All people are equal. Well, as long as they are human.

"Corporate America and the lobbyists on K Street scare me more than any redneck or Jihadi running around out there."

I can't blame you there Anon.

"The second generation of the immigrants largely regret the move and seek to impose Sharia law on their neighborhoods and have in some cases succeeded in doing so. Make sure you know what this means.... before it comes here"

Szpork, don't believe the hype. You have nothing to fear from a brown planet. Most of those people want the same things that you do, they just happen to look a little different.

This is just another reason why I feel that there should be a state of emergency in African-American "Amerika". Most white people are loosing their fucking minds because a "Black" looking dude is currently sitting in the Not So White House. They're pissed because they are seeing an end to white man's prevailege and its driving them insane. Hell, these nuts were planning to overthrow the government when white boys were running shit, so we're surprised at this? Just go to Paladin Press and check out their reading list. I can say this, something is coming our way. We can be prepared or we can get our asses collectively smoked. Luckily, I subscribe to the militancy of my maternal family and we're all packing heat, strapped or whatever the phrase for that is now

Abu, I've been telling people that for a year and since the President took office. I don't know if folks took me serious or not but I did what I was led to do, and I am serious.

Those crazy folks are not gonna rest until they start a civil war. I've also said that those who are trying to get one going better pray that it doesn't take place because it is not gonna turn out like they're thinking it will.

Palin is gonna be the cause of her own downfall. She is not very bright and is more of a mouthy person who likes the limelight. Herhusband is the one people need to be keeping an eye on. He stays in the background running things, scouting for, and pushing sedition everywhere they go.

Yeah Field these guys are all worth watching. Has anyone noticed how the ultra conservatives have tossed the word revolution around and nobody is taking them to task. In times past even as late as 1990's if you said the country needed a revolution you were put on a watch list and some smart alec liberal reporter would call you out. Its interesting that none of the mainstream press is pressing anyone on what is meant by that term. Palin used it tonight in her speech.

Yeah I listened to it on YOU TUBE and some of the things she said actually made sense.

Granny she is not as dumb as folks make her out to be. She has done pretty well for herself and has managed to play the system for all she can get while still appearing to be just another working class stiff. Not too stupid. Her speaking fee for this event was a reported $100,000. And she got someone to write a book for her, got a big gob of money to produce the thing and then made a ton of money running around the country telling the most empty headed and wrong headed folks in the history of civilization what they wanted to hear. Not too shabby!

Speaking of revolution the teabaggers and ultra cons are not talking about what the real revolutionary and progressive minded folks like myself and others would like to see and that is, having the system overturned so that we can have real equal opportunity and freedom to be all you can be and let others be all they can be.

However Palins crowd wants to return to what never was, a government that looked out for the little people. And of course the other big problem is their anti-people of color agenda. They want to go to a more raw form of capitalism without the safety net, which they don't really want. Capitalism without a net looks a lot like modern day Haiti along with a lot of other so-called third world countries.

BTW Field I don't know how I ever came across as a women but have you noticed that UCN has started referring to me as such and your last blog he referred to me as Jody's sister. He knows I am not a woman nothing I have said would indicate such not even the way I put across my ideas. The boy has gotten downright desperate!

UCN --you were reaching on me begging to get back in the US. You were projecting. It is you that needs the pat on the head from white folks and corporate types. I am secure wherever I am. And you are being dishonest and we all know it. Its hard to back up off whats written down. You clearly suggested that I leave the country and you didn't add any addendums. Which is not surprising because you really don't have any new ideas.

And on the reference to me as a woman, "I am the man that you think you are" to borrow a phrase from Malcolm.

Brother Field--For the record I am going to cut down on my reponses to UCN unless there is a "clear" political point to be debated that folks can learn from. It wasn't that long ago that we just ignored him. Remember Jody and Granny? He is an obstacle to forward thinking and is playing the role of provacateur, which if times were not so hard and life so serious for our people it would be funny and entertaining.

And besides he has his own blog let him blow hard on that.

I believe sincerely that UCN is a dangerous man. Seriously. Think about it. Most conservatives are trying to chart a path that would send most black people back to the plantation as well as espousing an economic solution that will continue to give the working man less and take more from him, while taking away the safety net completely. Doesn't sound like something that we want to sign on to.

Oh and brother Field can we not adopt UCN's term "street pirate." I find it quite offensive. Especially in light of the number of dead Iraqis, Afghans and others there are as a result of the real "Pirates" rape, murder, plunder and pilage for the sake of profit and hoarding the earth's resources. It was they who watched as Katrina victims waited. It is they who still implement policies making sure there will be more empty minded and purposeless young black people on the street.

I see these young people as I am sure you do on a regular basis. They in my mind are real human beings and deserved to be treated and approached as such. And besides unlike that fool UCN we know they weren't born that way.

Palin need' to go home and LOOK after her Children! she is running around America TRYING to cause a RACE WAR!

I have said it ONCE and I will say it again, (I will NOT be leaving this Earth until God say's so! and why God continue to allow these SPEWER'S of HATE to SURVIVE, is beyond me! and if that is NOT enough, these people had MONEY to spend on a CONVENTION!

Sarah Palin is Morally and Spiritually OUT of order and so are the people that support her! these people are NOT CHRISTIAN'S! they are a Disgrace to the Teaching's of CHRIST!

Christ message's was (Compassion for your fellowman) these people are fighting against HELP for God's people! they may not see it now, but, trust me, along the way Sarah Palin will pay a price for her WICKEDNESS!

I don't like what I've been feeling in my Spirit, something is TRYING to RAISE UP, but, I will PRAY it will NOT come to PASS!

To the PERSON who MOCKED my PRAYER to FIELD, YOU DON'T KNOW ME! so I would suggest you don't MOCK me!

Your missing the forest for the trees. Obama is not the problem. The dirt bag is also not an average thinking American. Like the downfall of Rome it was not pretty when death came. On the contrary it was sad.Field, does this meet your high standard of pick and choose censorship?rainy

Anon 2:10, I am more afraid of Saturated Fats than I am of Sarah Pale-skin.

She harks back to a time when being pretty and white was all you needed to have. Her and the tea party movement she embodies think that the are truly what America should be: pious, down home, regular folks that pull together and take care of one another and pray together and sing together.............until the black guy becomes president.

Then........I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!........HE'S A SOCIALIST!......HE WANTS TO ENSLAVE US BY GIVING US HEALTHCARE!......HE'S A LYING AFRICAN.......AND SO ON.

They don't want the country back, the want the false equilibrium that a conservative white president provides them. These people are the latest, greatest version of the cancer cells that sometimes invade the body of America. This is just their latest incantation.

This is movement predicated on the notion that they know that it is a nativist, racist movement, but they dare not say it, or be exposed. They are sneaking this fraud of a movement under the cover of darkness, a darkness formed by a lot of people who are so satisfied with the mere ELECTION of a black president that we can not pay attention to the multitude of enemies he has created simply by his very existence. Yes, these people are dangerous, and yes, they are stupid. But there are few things in this world more terrifying than dangerous stupidity. It's like giving a cartoon character a gun.

And I don't care if I insult them. Fuck them. They insult this nation with their bigoted rhetoric.

I heard PALIN'S speech as well, and Sarah Palin is Shrewd, the Media kept her Relevant! they Baited her into ATTACKING the President! all the CABLE NETWORK'S were in on it and still is! the Media didn't expect the President to be around this long! they thought it would all be over in a couple of month's! but, he made it into another year, they thought his election was a big JOKE! so now, they will do whatever it take's to BRING him DOWN! and if a WHITE WOMAN can do it, this will BOOST their rating's the more so!

The President has to figure out a way to get to ALL the American people before Sarah Palin doe's, look at what happened in Massachusett's! Democrat's VOTED for a Republican that will VOTE NO! on BILL'S to benefit their NEED'S!

White people are SHREWD, say what you will, but, these people wrote the book on Sabotage! how the President allowed the REP/CON to be standing and advancing this long is beyond me!I don't want to believe this was planned from the beginning!

TRAPPED in SC, do you have a BLOG? if so, please POST the name of it, and if NOT, what are you waiting for? please PUT UP a BLOG for my sake! (SMILE) trust me, OUR PEOPLE need to hear from you, you SPEAK LOUD and CLEAR!

@AbuAmirah & Granny -- Well, granny you probably remember me agreeing with you that things were getting bad and that if something didn't happen we'd see very bad things. That said, I do think things are calming down a bit -- mostly because the wingnuts have their hope back and think they're going to win everything come November. If they lose (and I hope they do) then they'll get seriously dangerous.

I disagree with the statement that it's "most" white people (change that to most conservative white people and I say hell yeah right with you) but even then the problem is that given the numbers percentage wise regarding America's ethnic divisions it only has to be a small percentage of white folks to cause a whole lot of pain and suffering.

Now, I'll tell you that this recent tea party convention has actually given me hope. There are fractures all around with x tea party group claiming y tea party group is stealing their show and z tea party group claiming and x and y are all fakes. Also, the more tea partiers claim to hate republicans the more they start to believe they can run they're own candidates in GOP primaries and the more likely those candidates are to lose and keep ripping at each other instead of us.

@ISEEISEE -- You're right about Palin being shrewd as hell. I remember saying that when I saw her and I also remember ole Bill Clinton saying the same thing (on Larry King I think) when almost every other democrat and liberal was saying she was an idiot. She's not smart in a lot of ways but she's both shrewd and cunning to a dangerous degree. People underestimating her skills as a player only helps her.

Field Negro, we need board members for the new movement called The Cotton Field Movement. Let me know if you are or anyone that you know would be interested becoming a part of the board. Send your response to: cottonfieldmovement@gmail.com.

The calm comes before the storm. I don't think that anything has changed in fact, we'll all be hearing more and more as this year progresses of people like Dyer.

Before Field even wrote about Beck and Dyer, last year I had been posting topics regarding some of the same things that are going on now. The militas, the infilitration of neo-nazi in the military, Fox News, etc. I've learned from experience never take your eyes off the enemy and they are the enemy.

@granny -- Yup. Calm before the storm. Things are quiet and simmering but I guess a simmer is still just a boil that hasn't quite crossed the point of no return yet. I think they'll keep simmering if they win in November but they'll boil so hard the lid flies off if they lose. Can you tell by the analogy I'm getting hungry lol? Dang, I want some homeade green beans now!

[QUOTE]Field Negro, I cover you in the BLOOD of Jesus and hide you behind the CROSS! you are RIGHT to POST this information![/QUOTE]

IseeIsee:

WHY don't you ask Filled Negro if HE BELIEVES that the "Blood Of Jesus" has the HEALING POWER that YOU believe that it has?

If you were to get some CERTIFIED "Blood Of Jesus" and paint a finger cross upon Filled Negro's new shirt - he would send YOU a dry cleaning bill!!!

When are you and Granny, as self-proclaimed CHRISTIANS going to start FISHING for Filled Negro's soul as a NON-BELIEVER?

[quote]I watched Sarah Palin on C-SPAN! she BEAT DOWN the President! she was trying to make him look as if he was a complete FAILURE! I don't understand why we have a Black President and he Allow's a Mere WHITE WOMAN, to roam around AMERICA and disrespect him![/quote]

STUNNING!!!!I thought it was called "Freedom Of Speech"?

Just imagine if BUSH had suggested the very same thing that ISEEISEE now suggests about Sarah Palin against his Black Female critics like Maxine Waters, Shelia Jackson Lee, Barbara Lee or Cynthia McKinney?

[quote]I thought by now, the President would have made TODD take his WIFE home! what is the President waiting for?

Why isn't this SEXIST comment made by a FEMALE not called out as "Self-Hatred" by the "Self-Chummers" on this blog?

Yup, CF, you show have. You've convinced me that you are not a black man. That you are a white man posing as a black man. I've sat back and watched your comments for a few years now. Every single day, it is the same ole..same ole. So,what milita do you belong to? Or is the Aryan Nation?

[quote]I'm not a violent man, but I would slap the shit out of Sarah Palin.[/quote]

Wow.

In the past there were PROGRESSIVE WHITE PEOPLE who stood silently as Black people were disrespected in their circle.TO-DAMNED-DAY there are PROGRESSIVE BLACK PEOPLE who also stand silently as a certain line of civility is molested by "Low & Country".

I thought that you all had the MORAL STANDARD on your side?

WHERE ARE THE FEMINISTS?They'd probably smack Sarah Palin as well.

[quote]Then........I WANT MY COUNTRY BACK!........[/quote]

You mean the BOOK WRITTEN by DEMOCRATS Carvelle and Bigalla?http://www.amazon.com/Take-Back-Party-Country-Future/dp/074327752X

[quote]HE'S A SOCIALIST!......[/quote]

Low & Country:

I was reading my copy of "International Socialist Magazine" last night. I noticed that they praised Howard Zinn as many of YOU have praised Zinn on your blogs. Is this all a coincidence?

[quote]HE WANTS TO ENSLAVE US BY GIVING US HEALTHCARE!......[/quote]

Low & Country - when Rep Jesse Jackson Jr made references to TURNING BACK THE CLOCK ON BLACK PEOPLE do you think that HE was using the Slavery/'A Black Man Has No Rights That A White Man Need Respect' Reference?

The STREET PIRATE operates upon the "NO RIGHTS THAT I NEED RESPECT" premise today. This doesn't seem to bother you as much though.

[quote]HE'S A LYING AFRICAN.......AND SO ON.[/quote]

BUSHIT!!!!!This can't be so.I can't believe that they would disrespect a president of the united states like that!!!

You have convinced me Low & Country - they are RACISTS!!!! It must be, because we have never seen this behavior before the Black president was elected to office.

Back in the 70's, we used to call it soul. Yea, the brother got soul or the sister got soul. But you have no soul. Even Michael Steele has more soul than you even though he is a sellout.

You rant and rant and rant about black folks and it is nothing but negativity, but where was your rant when Tacredo said what he did? Do you somehow think that if Jim Crow or slavery came back that you would be spared seeing how you claim to be a black man? The real reason you do not care about racism is because you are a white racist. Because racism affects all nonwhite folks and indirectly it effects whites as well. Because it is a poisonous seed, a disease of the mind--Leprosy!

[quote]BTW Field I don't know how I ever came across as a women[/quote]

Mellaneous is NOT A WOMAN?Oh no. I revoke my offer for a cruise ship ticket!!!

[quote]He knows I am not a woman nothing [/quote]

I thought that you were a WOMAN because your "sensitive side" is so evident. Trust me - my posts against you will be testosterone based from now on.

(Damn - you messed up my image of you. )

[quote]It is you that needs the pat on the head from white folks and corporate types.[/quote]

Not at all DUDE.You see operatives like you like to fuse "White folks" and "market capitalism" as you attempt to slight a Black person. The truth is - that as I look around it appears that the Asian small business owner is "ACTING WHITE" per your reference. A new strip mall in the "Black city" to the north of me has a Chinese Restaurant, a nail salon and a dry cleaners.

Just as the Tea Party people are focused on the internal while the US Debt is going to ensnare us all - you too have your sights on the wrong issue as others are able to tap the income flow in your community - that YOU have not figured out how to do.

[quote] I am secure wherever I am.[/quote]

It is not your SECURITY that has me concerned. In your mental contentment you express a very high amount of discombobulated references in relation to your position inside of the BELLY OF THE BEAST. Your words are possible ONLY because they are abstracted from the REAL WORLD that you live in. You eat from THE BEAST, demanding more rations as part of your notion of SOCIAL JUSTICE, yet you bite its hand.

[quote]Brother Field--For the record I am going to cut down on my reponses to UCN unless there is a "clear" political point to be debated that folks can learn from.[/quote]

Mellaneous - PLEASEYou are an ENTRENCHED BIGOT in what you believe. What you are really saying is that you tire of having to DEFEND yourself against someone who is not BUYING YOUR CRAP!!!!

IF YOU WANT TO TALK "POLITICS" you'd be better served by going to the places where the people you are comfortable with HAVE DOMINATE CONTROL over the local places and get THEM to deliver more effective solutions.

[quote] It wasn't that long ago that we just ignored him. Remember Jody and Granny? He is an obstacle to forward thinking and is playing the role of provacateur, which if times were not so hard and life so serious for our people it would be funny and entertaining.[/quote]

Mellaneous - TIMES WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE "HARD" with this present political machine in power. Remember? We were sold on the glories that it would bring. FORWARD THINKING my backside. You are a retrograde in that you can't base your ideological and economic principles based upon the EQUAL HUMANITY of all. You instead have massive stratification where the resources flow from one strata down to the other.

[quote]I believe sincerely that UCN is a dangerous man. Seriously. Think about it.[/quote]

Indeed I am dangerous Mellaneous. You should see me as an ASSAILANT of your LEFTIST UTOPIA that you STRUGGLE to implement with little evidence of its success.

[quote]Most conservatives are trying to chart a path that would send most black people back to the plantation as well as espousing an economic solution that will continue to give the working man less and take more from him, while taking away the safety net completely.[/quote]

Mellaneous - WHICH FORCE has TAKEN MORE FROM THE "WORKING MAN" than the force that has DESTROYED THEIR JOBS in Detroit, Camden, Cleveland, Rochester, Baltimore and Milwaukee?

Mellaneous - you are a disgusting, narcissistic, self-indulgent fraud!!!

[quote]Oh and brother Field can we not adopt UCN's term "street pirate." I find it quite offensive. [/quote]

I find WHAT THEY DO TO ASSAULT OUR COMMUNITIES OFFENSIVE!!!!!

A Black man is not slandered with this title. HE EARNS THIS TITLE based on HIS OWN ACTIONS!!!

It is painful to think about how your mind works. Why don't you stand in the shoes of the "Black People Crying On Television News" and see what they see after the Street Pirate Attack?

The LABEL IS A FUNCTIONAL ONE. It describes WHAT THEY DO.

[quote]Especially in light of the number of dead Iraqis, Afghans and others there are as a result of the real "Pirates" rape, murder, plunder and pilage for the sake of profit and hoarding the earth's resources.[/quote]

Jesus!!!!! Please help this boy.

Why don't you protest President Obama and tell him to IMMEDIATELY stop these actions or you won't vote for him again in 2012?

[quote] It was they who watched as Katrina victims waited.[/quote]

Who is "They" Mellaneous?Are you saying the AMERICAN MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX who's helicopters swooped in and rescued people from their rooftops?

Just think the same KILLER who may have been in Iraq merely 2 months prior as a pilot of an American helicopter gun ship - was later turned into a "good guy" by you when he used the exact same model of helicopter, minus the bullets and missiles to rescue people who were living in a FLOOD ZONE that POLICY should NEVER HAVE ALLOWED THEM TO.

Mellanous (and Granny) there are some things that I will have to accept that can't be changed in your jaundiced minds. New Orleans is one such thing. As we look at Haiti and the people today who 3 weeks after their terrible situation they are without food and shelter. Its interesting that 3 weeks out of Katrina - people were put up into hotel rooms and were given food vouchers.

Give every Haitian a food voucher and a ticket to stay at a 5 star hotel and it would do no good. In their eco-system right now VOUCHERS or MONEY mean nothing. The SYSTEM that brings these resources into proximity where they are available in the first place is what matters.

I am learning a lot about you Mellaneous. In your heart there is HATRED disguised as "Progressive Concern". Your ability to go around the world and CHERRYPICK affords you the opportunity to DENY YOUR OWN LEVEL OF COMFORT in your existence within a SYSTEM THAT YOU HATE.

[quote] It is they who still implement policies making sure there will be more empty minded and purposeless young black people on the street.[/quote]

I GIVE YOU NORTH PHILADELPHIA - TO-DAMNED-DAY!!!!!! 30 years after they received a POLITICAL LEADERSHIP OF THEIR OWN!!!

IF you want to see a SYSTEM that creates "purposeless Black males" YOU NEED TO START HERE!!!

Now that I know that you are a male I feel comfortable in calling you a PUNK!!!

You would be pacified if these Black men were GIVEN every ounce of the material accouterments that would bring them into the state of "IN RECEIPT OF A PARTICULAR STANDARD OF LIVING" that you favor. If they received no competency in maintaining this standard if they got detached from the beast - you would not be bothered.

[quote]I see these young people as I am sure you do on a regular basis. They in my mind are real human beings and deserved to be treated and approached as such. And besides unlike that fool UCN we know they weren't born that way.[/quote]

WHAT IGNORANCE!!Why don't you talk to the SUBSET of these young people who go on to ASSAULT another person who is a HUMAN BEING to see the HUMANITY in their victims???

You like your sister JODY are able to demand that "external people" VALUE "these people". You are UNABLE to come up with the language in which you tell "these people" to EXPRESS VALUE IN OTHERS.

I am always leery of presuming guilt of ANYONE charged before conviction of any crime. And frankly, I find the multiple charges of sexual abuse of a child the most disturbing here. And, the fact that he was a cop suggests that there is a greater likelihood of guilt. Cops usually don't get charged with crimes unless the evidence is overwhelming. It takes alot to bust the blue wall.

As to the right wingers/militias... I agree with Anonymous 10:08pm, I worry more about thugs on K Street and Corporate interests destroying this country than these extremists.

Look at what they have already done and are doing. Right now there is an ad on television that is playing in PA that flashes the words: Bailout, Higher Taxes, Unemployment, shows images of Bankers with the words Bonus and then the image of average white Joe sitting at the table trying to pay his bills with the words Debt and Higher Taxes.....

This ad then tells you to say NO TO BANK REFORM!Paid for by the Banking Industry. Not making this up! These MFs are the true danger to us all!!!!!

[quote]You've convinced me that you are not a black man. That you are a white man posing as a black man.[/quote]

Granny - my love for you is unconditional. You can't say anything to me that will shake it.

If I am a "white man" then there was a genetic miracle several years ago as I impregnated my brown skinned Jamaican wife and we produced children that have no hint of being Mulattoes.

Still Granny - when you hear the lyrics of Young Jeezy - what type of man do you hear? It must be a man expressing comfort because you appear to be more bothered by my words attacking people like HIM than you do his words which attack you as a Black female.

"I was reading my copy of "International Socialist Magazine" last night. I noticed that they praised Howard Zinn as many of YOU have praised Zinn on your blogs. Is this all a coincidence?"

[un]consrtuctive one, let me follow your logic: We love Zinn (I know I did)Zinn was a Socialist. We support O, therefore O is a Socialist. Is that what you are saying?

"I GIVE YOU NORTH PHILADELPHIA - TO-DAMNED-DAY!!!!!! 30 years after they received a POLITICAL LEADERSHIP OF THEIR OWN!!!

IF you want to see a SYSTEM that creates "purposeless Black males" YOU NEED TO START HERE!!!"

See [un]constructive one, this is why folks don't fins you credible, because of rhetoric like the above statement.

What caused the problems in places like North Philly is not the local political leadership, but the leadership that came out of Washington in the eighties. (You remember, when your boy Ray-Gun was destroying the country.) I submit to you that the drug laws and the crack epidemic did more to destroy urban A-merry-ca than even LBJ's social program of the sixties who you coonservatives like to blame everything on.Guess who I blame for the drug wars and the crack epidemic? If you said Ronnie Ray-Gun and company you should always pick that category when you play Jeopardy.

I disagree with Mel. I don't think you are dangerous [un]constructive one, I, for one, am glad you are here. (I mean that) Your reasoning only helps to convince me that I am on the right side.

When are you and Granny, as self-proclaimed CHRISTIANS going to start FISHING for Filled Negro's soul as a NON-BELIEVER?

Great question CF I have wondered the same thing. But as always stupid granny averts the questions by saying "the only one who needs prayers is you". What an intelligent response. The question granny, answer it.

I can, they won't, because FN represents this blog and they adore this blog so therefore they won't go there with him, in hopes of keeping their God on Earth FN happy.

"I, for one, am glad you are here. (I mean that) Your reasoning only helps to convince me that I am on the right side."

I echo this sentiment, except ... with his every word CF convinces me that I am seeing things more or less correctly.

I really like reading this blog even though I disagree with most of the opinions on here. It is good to read opposite viewpoints and seek the truth through one's own research. I am glad FN does not censor those of differing viewpoints or even those who are out and out nasty or silly. He is a true "A-merry-can" in keeping with the spirit of the First Amendment.

[quote]What caused the problems in places like North Philly is not the local political leadership, but the leadership that came out of Washington in the eighties. [/quote]

Filled Negro - my "credibility" did not cause nor will it FIX the issues in the "City of Brotherly Love".

It is ironic that you can point to Washington DC as the blunt instrument that damned North Philly. This ONE PRESIDENT, 30 years ago waged an assault upon North Philly and they never recovered.

It is ironic that your solution is to EMPOWER this same BEAST of a government with more power instead of SHELTERING yourself from their footprint.

Think about it Filled Negro - the only thing that you can be talking about is an "Abortion of North Philly". The umbilical chord that was once attached from its belly onto the BEAST in Washington DC was severed. Since North Philly and Camden were not "VIABLE BEINGS" after been taken away from their NUTRITION SOURCE - the stomach lining of the BEAST - they withered and are now near death.

You need to focus on WHY the people in these places chose the path of POLITICAL INDEPENDENCE as they purged their former establishment leaders when, all along, their goal was to put their favored people in place but REMAIN dependent.

Seriously Filled Negro and Brother Mellenous - what COMPETENCIES have been built up in these places in the last 40 years that you should feel proud of?

Speaking of scary people: what about the first tea party convention? How's is it that despite al the bullshit the right has done, they can still form a "populous" party? Why the hell is the left seemingly incapable of doing something like that?

"Speaking of scary people: what about the first tea party convention? How's is it that despite al the bullshit the right has done, they can still form a "populous" party? Why the hell is the left seemingly incapable of doing something like that?"

Anon. that might be the question of the day, and it is something that bothers me. The left, at times, is just too damn lazy.

It is ironic that your solution is to EMPOWER this same BEAST of a government with more power instead of SHELTERING yourself from their footprint.

"Think about it Filled Negro - the only thing that you can be talking about is an "Abortion of North Philly". The umbilical chord that was once attached from its belly onto the BEAST in Washington DC was severed. Since North Philly and Camden were not "VIABLE BEINGS" after been taken away from their NUTRITION SOURCE - the stomach lining of the BEAST - they withered and are now near death."

The "Beast" that controled the people of North Philly and Camden caused businesses to go away. They caused a generation of our children to be raised without a proper family, they destroyed the educational system by defunding programs that were needed in urban A-merry-ca, I could go on, but again, as is always the case, I am pretty sure you get the point.

Now, hopefully, the ones who are in control of the "Beast" will understand the folly of Wshington's previous ways,and will implement policies that are more progressive towards urban A-merry-ca. I am not holding my breath, but it's only been a year, let's see what happens.

Well not mostly, but certainly a great deal of it. I guess our friend the [un]constructive one hasn't been home in awile. (I tried to buy a place in North Philly -Northern Liberties- a few years back, and I couldn't afford it. I fell in love with the place but the guy wanted $700,000.00 for two and a half bedrooms.)Maybe our friend constructive will stop bashing North Philly now that he knows that it's just not poor down trodden black folks who live there. :)

I have to catch the full speech on CSPAN later. a 20 mile training run kind of dulls a Field Negro's brain cells for about 10-15 hours after.

Anyway, from what I've heard on the blogs and Meet The Press....Sister Sarah went for the typical read meat that sends these racist goons into a frenzy.

For anyone trying to legitimize these fools, just remember that the wars, banking bailouts and recession all started (and were pretty much caused by) the Bush Administration. Yes, SmirkCo is gone (though Cheney still thinks he's in charge). Yes, they are Obama's problems now, to all the right wing lurkers and the ultra-left crybabies.

The point is that the knuckleheads didn't seem to notice when Bush and his gang of crooks were selling them a bill of goods on tax cuts and war against crazy people in caves. They only started screaming about 'Taking their country back' when the skinny mulatto from the Chi showed up in DC with his Heath Huxtable family and Ivy League education. And he the nerve to do the job he was elected to do.

Seriously, what rational human being that doesn't work in the health care industry (insurance companies, big pharma, physicians, etc.) would argue against legitimate health care reform? Hell, I work in health care and know some of the practices are completely screwed up. Forget Single Payer for a sec, because that's a pipe dream right now. I'm talking rather sane stuff that says you can't cancel people's policies for actually being sick? Or setting up a government fall back insurance policy so your local barista doesn't serve your mocha with the walking flu?

And a lot of these Tea Baggers either work for the government, get VA services or are on public assistance of some form. Ironic, when you analyze it. And how many of the closet tea party governors were caught with posing with Publisher's Clearinghouse checks from the stimulus bill?

The truth is none of this makes sense.

There's a theory in social science circles that states the reason America is so backwards in terms public services is because corporate interests can play on paranoid race-baiting fears to stop progress. In other words, if White people weren't so worried about the darkies benefiting from social services, we'd look more like Canada or Sweden.

The Tea Party movement, as Trapped in SC (Hey momma's from outside Charleston. God bless you in the belly of the beast.), this is the latest strain of wingnuts and race-baiters looking to push back any social progressive for some mythical whites only paradise that hasn't existed since the middle ages.

You are partially correct in your above statements. America has long live on the myth of the 'self made man.' In the north, during the 1920s and 1930s, when few blacks live in that area, the fight against unions and workers' rights was vigoursly prosecuted by the powers that be. Even then the working class was blamed for its own lack of upward mobility, even when the very things that would allow such mobility were denied to workers. Here's a great quote from the book "Rebuilding the Inner City" that sums it up better than I can:

"Major reform in American economic life would require significant state intervention in American social life, and Americans are reluctant to involve the state in contentious social issues. A second reason is the segmented and fragmented quality of American culture, which undermines the sense of community identity and destiny that would be needed to support a common reform project. Related to these constraints to basic reform is Americans' strong identification with church, family, and neighborhood, which weakens class identification, and makes market inequities more tolerable.

[quote]* The "Beast" that controled the people of North Philly and Camden caused businesses to go away.[/quote]

WHAT "caused" them to come to town in the first place?

[quote]* They caused a generation of our children to be raised without a proper family, [/quote]

Wow. How did they do this? This beast must be POWERFUL.

[quote]* they destroyed the educational system by defunding programs that were needed in urban A-merry-ca,[/quote]

REALLY? I thought that when a city got its CHARTER the one thing that was expected was that as it switched from an "unincorporated land" over to a franchise that was now allowed to collect a LOCAL TAX that used to go to the county or state - they were to deliver needed goods and services more EFFICIENTLY than the county or state that had been providing these services.

[quote] I could go on, but again, as is always the case, I am pretty sure you get the point.[/quote]

No. Please continue. I want you to make the case that the IMPERIAL NATIONAL GOVERNMENT is the only entity that can deliver these services.

It seems to me that the main point at hand is that you want to ABSTRACT the notion of the "Standard of Living" that a community is exposed to from their net productivity and ORDER among he people to ACTUALLY DELIVER IT.

In summary - per your "Social Justice Theory" you want the masses to be SERVICED - without any consideration of building up their COMPETENCY to organize their "human resources" to deliver the services they desire.

[quote]Now, hopefully, the ones who are in control of the "Beast" will understand the folly of Wshington's previous ways,and will implement policies that are more progressive towards urban A-merry-ca.[/quote]

Filled Negro - WHAT about Yeadon PA from 25 years ago when I used to make frequent visits there has CHANGED to the point today where it and many other "SUBurban cities" that ring Philly are struggling to pay for basic fire/police/educational services?

Is it possible that the strategic flaw in your "Social Justice"/Progressive mantra is that you must continue a STRUGGLE that purports to deliver this living standard. Yet when you ARE VICTORIOUS upon a given PLATEAU you must immediately get the masses refocused upon the NEXT run up the mountain because if they ever make note that your promises made about the PRESENT PLATEAU have not come through you would have a mass protest against you to deal with.

Filled Negro - if YOU don't see the difference between the "American Political Domain" and the "Community Cultural Consciousness and Competence Domain" - where the majority of our problems from ABANDONMENT exist - you will always only have a "Permanent CHASE" on your hand. Fearing the day where some permanent firewall restricts YOU from access to the resources from your adversaries that you demand per your reliance on "social justice".

overly and anonymous and the rest of your multiple personalites. The devil is an accuser!

Let me explain something to you. If you think your game strategy will work to get me to shut me up and stop telling the truth, you'd better think again. Or would you rather me call them GENERATION OF VIPERS? Would that be a more suitable Christian word for you? A person that has played so many different people on here and called women some of the vilest, degrading, and filthiest name doesn't leave room to preach about righteousness which is something you know nothing about.

To deal with some of you stiff-neck, hard-hearted folks tipsying around the roses and being mealy-mouthed won't work. I am not here to make you feel comfortable in deception and lies. I am not gonna stop calling it the way I see it with boldness. Unlike you and a few others I truly believe in what is fair, just, compassion for my fellow-man, and what's right! Mine is a righteous anger. I believe in if I see my fellow-human beings hungry to feed them. If I had only one piece a bread and see four people hungry I'd divide that piece of bread between us. I don't believe in GREED, because I know that "The LOVE of MONEY is the ROOT of all EVIL! It is instrumental in destroying the very foundation of nations and people. Nor do I believe that one group of people is better than the other or divisive and tactics of hatred to divide a nation.

Sarah Palin, Beck, and all the rest of the so-called real Americans are the epitome of evil! Sarah Palin is a modern day Jezebel. She's that female mentioned in Revelatons because that is what type of spirit she has. She is nothing but a power-hungry, money-hungry female that uses the platform to play the blind like a piano and stir up racial division and overturn the government.

So Granny does that mean you are not gonna answer the simple question? You know a lot about the bible (as evidenced by your last post). What does the bible say about those who don't believe in Jesus and then die?

Nah, let me ask you a couple of questions? When Jesus was nailed to cross there were two other men nailed on the cross on each side of him. Before one of them took his last breath he made a request to Jesus? Did Jesus condemn him?

There was a woman who was caught in adultery and the town wanted to stone her. What did Jesus say to them?

Hey Field just wanted to throw some thoughts out before the game. I see you disagree about UCN and you are probably right on second. But some of his ideas can lead folks down the wrong path.

Uncon:

I don't know how to respond to you anymore. You take things personal and then slip in digs about my sensitive side. But I will admit it made me laugh.

I keep telling you that I am not a liberal and that I didn't support any capitalist politician Democrat or Republican and that includes brother Obama. Ask Field if I didn't warn folks. So the straw man arguments and points you keep making don't fit me.

And just when I begin to think you are at least intelligent and reasonable you throw out statements which imply that my criticism of capitalism and US government policy is biting the hand that feeds me.

Try harder man and remember its not personal at least not yet. I mean it is you who decided to come over here with your conservative ideas and try to convince folks of your way of thinking and not the reverse.

If only Bush was still in office we could all worry about Bush overturning Roe/Wade and throwing out all the civil rights legislation and go back to the days of the 50's when democrats were openly working hard against those with a negro dialect.

I'm guessing that unlike Joe Biden that first met a clean/bright/articulate African-American when he met Obama, Bush has never met a clean/bright A-A.

If only Bush would write some of those wonderful "use crack cocaine go to prison, use powder cocaine and get a wrist slap" laws in order to force more African-Americans in jail. Of course, only those that aren't clean/bright/articulate and don't speak in a negro dialect end up in jail.

By the way...Calling people that oppose Obama as racists does everyone a disservice.

To actually believe that means in your heart of hearts you believe if a white male, like john edwards was president that the right-wing would gladly support left-wing policies. Even an idiot knows better than that.

UnCon BTW use your words. I can't believe you resorted to calling me a punk. Temper, temper.Man I just left church so I am not going there with you. But trust me "I got your punk." You really don't know me. You have no idea. Man you are funny. I am not the kind of guy that anyone would call a punk to his face. So be careful. But I am not going there with you because its becoming more and more obvious as you stoop to name calling that your ideas don't hold water.

CF, I don't listen to Young Jeezy's songs, my taste falls more in the old school R&B, gospel, jazz, opera, classical, and some country western category.

However, why is that you condemn Young Jeezy with a vengenance, but yet turn your head and look the other way when it comes to the CEO's and owners of the music industry who make it point to scout, recruit, and demand those type of lyrics from the "Young Jeezies", the same CEOs who make the biggest profit off of it? Are their hands clean in your eyesight because they believe in capitalism and black exploitation?

[quote]Her speeches are getting better and smarter. She is learning more and more about issues. Again, she is not as dumb as you want to think she is.[/quote]

'Failin' Palin is absolutely as dumb as any modern politician I have ever seen. Her message is deliberately anti-intellectual and anti-reason.

"Vote form me, I'm as stoopid as you are."

Conservatives are trapped in a self-reinforcing paradigm of opposition to intellectualism, science and reason. All their conspiracy theories like Obama-birthism, 9/11-trutherism, and Global Warming denier-ism, thrive when people feel able to construct an alternative reality that excludes or rationalizes any information that contradicts their theories.

Now when you have FoxNews, U.S. talk radio and right wing blogs reinforcing the birther theories (for instance), it's easy to see how these theories become ever more bizarre. They are like snowballs rolling down a hill, there’s nobody to stop them so they grow ever bigger and stranger. Meanwhile the believers invest ever more of their self-identity in sustaining these beliefs, their theories become part of their self identity and self-worth. This isn’t a new process, similar things went on during the Clinton years, and there's a similar process in parts of the European Left establishment. However the right-wing has built up an entire network of reality-denying organizations, such as FoxNews (an organization that employs PhD's who pretend they don't understand even the simplest economic or sociological concepts.) Shock-Jocks on talk-radio, right-wing blogs and websites such as Conservapedia. This network functions not as a source of news, but as a self-reinforcing mechanism for re-affirming the right-wing paradigm. It’s a network that is above all else anti-intellectual, it praises stupidity and simplistic solutions to complex problems, is quick to criticize nuanced or subtle thinking.

For every complex, messy social or international problem, there is a right-wing solution that is simple, easily explained, and just plain WRONG.

It functions as a powerful echo chamber permitting a larger community of believers to be reinforced in their belief in ever crazier ideas.

So I guess I'm saying that while that people who hold these ideas clearly aren't all actually psychotic, the process by which they come to hold their beliefs is not dissimilar to the process by which paranoid schizophrenics build up their delusions.

It's just cognitive dissonance at the level of society, rather than on an individual scale

Oooh, sorry for the grammar and punctuation issues on that last post, it's late at night and I appear to have consumed 2/3rds of a bottle of Rioja. (It's the only way a sane man can keep sane in these times, I suspect.)

"go back to the days of the 50's when democrats were openly working hard against those with a negro dialect."

You know I did go back to the 50's and guess what it dawn on me how those same democrats switched to the Republican side.

BTW, power cocaine was a white thing. In fact, that is why the laws were unfair because it is them that got the slap on wrist and freedom when the book was thrown at blacks and they were sentenced to prison.

Calling President Obama a racist does an even greater disservice because whether the tea-baggers like it or not, he won fair and square and he is the people's choice. As for Bush, well, please stop trying to act like he was one of the greatest leaders on earth and that goes for Ronnie Reagan as well, because they both did a real disservice to Americans with their tickled down economics and favors to the rich and corporations that got us in the mess we're in now in case you have amnesia. Denial is something else but you can overcome it if you accept the TRUTH!

Anon 7:44... I suspect you are childless. You must be because if you cannot understand the love of a parent who wants the best for their child. And the anguish they must feel at not being able to provide for their child. And the selfless act of actually giving their child to others who promise a better, safe, healthy life.... Well, I would say you are a quart low on your humanity... but then given your statement, I wonder if you have any capacity at all for an an ounce of humanity for anyone. You sir, are the absence of love, thus that makes you the definition of evil.

And I am respectfully ignoring you because your ulterior motive is not right. You want me to condemn one person because you don't agree with them and uphold another because they make you feel more comfortable in your way of thinking. Sorry, hon, but I've never been in the habit of dancing to anyone's tune or jump when they say jump and I'm not about to start doing that either. So hold don't hold your breathe.

BTW, you should respectfully stay out of CF and mine disagreements because he and I might argue like cats and dogs but we don't dislike or hate each other. We just disagree with each other on certain issues.

Unfortunately the forces on the Left nor the MSM will try to tie Mr. Dyer to Glenn Beck or Palin. Nope the MSM will not see any guilt by association unlike the crap they tried to do to Obama by repeating the GOP talking points tying him to Ayers and Rev. Wright.

Correct. The Teabaggers will just cull him from the herd and dismiss him as a nutcase who really didn't belong to the group in the first place. Problem solved.

Guilt by association? That's only for the opposing team.

You people just don't get it, do you? you DISMISS everything that African American's should be aware of! who did you think this MAN had ALL those WEAPON'S for? but, trust me, he is NOT alone!

They don't "get it" until they see their loved ones "getting one" in the head at the hands of these loons. Some people simply don't take notice until things go beyond shit hitting the fan.

Those crazy folks are not gonna rest until they start a civil war. I've also said that those who are trying to get one going better pray that it doesn't take place because it is not gonna turn out like they're thinking it will.

They figure a Civil War will allow them to "take their country back". As in "reaffirm White Privilege and restore Whites to all positions of power". I have a feeling that's not gonna go exactly as they envision. As I said before, whites are still kicking themselves for not decimating and marginalizing blacks the same way they did to Native Americans. Notice how Native Americans aren't much of a threat anymore -- sure they have their casinos and reservations, but they are effectively marginalized, politically and socially.

The only thing such a war will do is finally convince the Black community that attempting to work together with and even peacefully coexisting with Whites is a futile effort. The big irony in all this is if Black Separatism blooms with a vengeance. What if black folk simply threw up their hands and collectively pushed for a separate Black state? That would be the aftermath of a civil war with a secret mandate of "Leftover Nigger Cleanup". Oh, and there's the possibility of foreign powers getting involved. For starters, China could jump in by sending "peacekeepers" operating under the aegis of the UN or NATO, thereby showing off how they can handle themselves as the next "world policeman". American prestige takes a big hit and thanks to the Teabagging idiots, we end up with next-to-nonexistent racial relations and a fractured country that's socially and economically condemned to second-world status.

There's a theory in social science circles that states the reason America is so backwards in terms public services is because corporate interests can play on paranoid race-baiting fears to stop progress. In other words, if White people weren't so worried about the darkies benefiting from social services, we'd look more like Canada or Sweden.

Ouch. The truth hurts.

Basically, you have poor whites who are so worried about blacks "stealing" what little they have that they are more than willing to engage in behavior that serves to keep blacks "in their place", not realizing (or not caring) that doing so also keeps them down.

But I doubt you'll see Canada- or Sweden-style social services. The American culture of "Rugged Individualism" won't allow it. Americans want to be seen as "standing on their own two feet". Implementing these social services or even just reforming what we have now will essentially be like using crutches. And no American wants to be seen hobbling around on crutches.

Which is just fine for HMOs, lawyers, insurance companies and the pharmaceutical industry. You know, the big money makers.

Thank the goddess that someone if finally calling out these christians

Granny, question for you. What does the bible say happens to atheists?

I tend to ignore shit like this, since the very same people who are comfortable with "calling out" Christians wouldn't dare do the same thing to Muslims. Not because a few would be quick to "ride n' die" on these "infidels", but because it wouldn't be the politically correct thing to do. Simply put, their friends would frown on them and probably not want to invite them to the next gameday party or book club meeting.

And I've noticed people trying to figure out Deconstructive Feedbag. I wouldn't bother. Either he's a WASP troll who's got his "game" downpat or he represents one of the worst cases of self-hatred to date. At any rate, he's not that big of a concern to me, hence why I simply scroll past the vast majority of his "feedback".

Mellaneous, "Try harder man and remember its not personal at least not yet. I mean it is you who decided to come over here with your conservative ideas and try to convince folks of your way of thinking and not the reverse."

Field has said over and over again that his blog is open to everyone. I am grateful to CF and appreciate his opinions. He thinks for himself, and adds depth and clarity to Field's posts...whether you agree or not.

There is also a bonus to having CF as a regular:

He makes 'some' people think, and breaks up a herd mentality of unquestioned past political and racial thinking.

The Purple Cow "'Failin' Palin is absolutely as dumb as any modern politician I have ever seen. Her message is deliberately anti-intellectual and anti-reason."

You must be an all-knowing smart guy, insulting Palin that way. People like you always get blind-sided, because you fail to see that the stupidity you see in another is actually coming from within you. You are the classic left Democrat.

Purple Cow says, "For every complex, messy social or international problem, there is a right-wing solution that is simple, easily explained, and just plain WRONG."

What's the name of that 'hooch juice' that got you drunk, and distorted your thinking last night? I would like to get some for a party of fools like yourself. Your conclusions are so simple that they don't even make sense!

Oh Lawd! Coming from a person who needs someone to help them think, that's hilarious. So much for free thinkers! Well, I dunno, I guess when a person thinks that Palin is the best thing since peanut butter you can't expect anything less than that. Maybe, Purple Cow should share some of his drink with them, it might help them to see the light.

Herd mentality? Oh my! Now we're all cattle. Anonymous must really long for the good ole days. Typical "We got to take back our country from those darkies", rightwinger.

[quote]You must be an all-knowing smart guy, insulting Palin that way. People like you always get blind-sided, because you fail to see that the stupidity you see in another is actually coming from within you. You are the classic left Democrat.[/quote]

How very dare you!

I'm not a Democrat, Democrats are whimps. I'm a Socialist.

Is that all you got, btw? Is that your best 'snappy comeback' Mmmmmmmmm?

I notice you do nothing to challenge the content of my post, only a routine ad hominum attack. You far-Right types are all the same.

I know that you are a family man but I hope and pray that your proclivity to LIE is not passed on to your kids. Your molestations of my character as you play to the local bigots who lust for such news is the ONLY way that you have a chance to successfully debate me.

[quote]Most black communities are not crime ridden ghettoes.[/quote]

WhiteBowieSteve: WHERE did you see me argue as such? If a WHITE RACIST said "Most White People DON'T LYNCH BLACKS...."why are you so bent out of shape over that Strange Fruit" hanging in the back yard when there are so many other young darkies to take his place but who have learned their lessons about winking at White women" this would parallel YOUR argument.

[quote]What do you call a white or hispanic violent criminal?[/quote]

I am not sure but I can say that based on a Hispanic on Black assault last week in CA THEY ARE NOT CALLED "HATE CRIMES". The White criminal's assault against a Black might be called as such.

[quote]CF, you're game is so obvious.You and your coonservative brethren seek to equate "black" with violence and dysfunction to rationalize why your political mindset is rejected by most black Americans.[/quote]

This makes NO DAMNED SENSE. You are attempting to (illogically) argue that YOU and other bigoted Black Progressive-Fundamentalists reject MY message because of MY MOLESTATION of the "character" of the Black community?

WhiteBowieSteve - in the background as I type this I am watching the documentary by Mario Van Peeples "Fair Game". He is CLAIMING that "Private Prisons" based on the profit motive is ensnaring Blacks. They say that ceiling tiles are falling out of the ceilings of Black schools. Add to this Spike Lee's segment in the documentary which use spin and it is no surprise why you have a problem with me.

You see Steve - they are feeding YOU the "food" that you like to hear. That there is a conspiracy against Black people and the incarceration rate is PROOF of that. Sadly even in CHICAGO, PHILLY, DETROIT - Democratic Party Utopias that have their fair share of BLACK PEOPLE running the PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX - there must be BLACK REPUBLICANS embedded to lock the Negro Male UP.

You attempt to index MY CREDIBILITY based upon YOUR "ACCEPTANCE" OF MY WORDS. This is as FRAUDULENT of you as you looking at the year 1523 and judging members of the "Round Earth Society" for THEIR acceptance.

Index me on the FACTS, punk - not the POPULARITY.

(Damn - Cornel West is on right now. I know where this documentary is going. Sorry AB.)

The real reason you have a problem with me, WhiteBowieSteve is that I have the AUDACITY to pair your DEMOCRATIC PARTY ACTIVISM that has gotten favorable people into OFFICE OVER YOUR COMMUNITIES with the EXPECTATIONS THAT THEY WILL ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING. You and others prefer to worship their portraits upon the wall as your PROOF that we are making racial advancements. Let's stop pretending - THIS IS YOUR AGENDA because you know that YOU ARE NOT ABLE TO "CONTROL" the Black People that you seek to "HELP". Instead you are forced to blame the SYSTEM and CHANGE THE SYSTEM on a perpetual basis so that benefits might one day RAIN DOWN upon these same Blacks who you have failed to develop a CULTURAL SYSTEM where each day they live and act - they ADVANCE their own cause.

[quote]You are no more educated, law-abiding, industrious and family-oriented than any other black on this board.It's offensive to think that you are.[/quote]

YOU ARE A G.D. LIAR!!!!I push the 100% EQUALITY OF EVERYONE. I have repeatedly stated that you and Filled Negro are as committed to YOUR FAMILIES as Black heads of households as I AM.

It is NOT how YOU interact with YOUR FAMILY that is a concern for me. For YOUR loved ones you only have the highest standards.

I have contempt for your expectations that you have for ANOTHER BLACK MAN and his relationship to his family. YOU allow them to perform at a level that you WOULD NOT DARE allow your own loved one's to do so. In your own perversion you believe that THEY will be lifted up by being made "IN RECEIPT OF" a standard of living from the resources of an EXTERNAL SOURCE that YOU have MANAGED your own children so that they might obtain this same standard with THEIR OWN DAILY ACTIONS.

This is what makes you foul.

The eco-system that you PERMIT per the policy set that you SUPPORT promotes Black Inferiority and insures that 3 generations from now - NOTHING WILL HAVE CHANGED. Unfortunately the tumultuous state of the FINANCES OF "THE BEAST" in the future is going to show the strategic flaw of your strategy. The "Externally Fed Black Man" is going to be the most vulnerable. You FAILED to build up the COMPETENCIES of the community.

You were happy that he was WELL FED in the "Kennedy-Ginsberg" Soup Line.

In summary - what YOU see as personal ARROGANCE and community CONTEMPT from me is really a hatred for THE WAY THAT YOU THINK. YOU - I am talking about. Not the "genetic" Black people. YOU!!!!

POLITICS PROFITS FROM PATHOLOGY!!No different than how the "Hip Hop Voice Of The STREET PIRATE" PROFITS from the PATHOLOGY of rapping about what is going on in their streets and how they were the hardest drug dealers before they made it big time as a recording artist.

Sadly, Black people get more upset at a group of WHITE FOLKS at the CCC meeting who dare to sing "Dixie" in their meeting than we do in listening to the IGNORANCE of the "Hip Hop Voice Of The Street Pirates":

* Threatening to kill Black people* Calling our women out of their name* Rapping about their personal wealth yet not having an investment portfolio to speak of

Do you REALLY need me to go and find some Young Jeezy lyrics for you to understand the HYPOCRISY that I am calling out?

Granny - take a look at this picture of Young Jeezy:http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2010/01/fusion-of-hip-hop-and-street-piracy.html

He is a former DRUG DEALER.His present lyrics glorify his past actions. Gun violence is peppered in his lyrics. In my calculus this is akin to a White Klansman in 1950 who gets big by making songs about how he LYNCHED Black people.

(Geofrey Canada of the Harlem Children's Zone is on the television now. He just said "WE DID NOT BECOME KILLERS OVER NIGHT. It took PRACTICE and CONDITIONING". GRANNY!!!!!! The "Hip Hop Voice Of The Street Pirate" is a TUTOR in this PRACTICE for making killers by the words that they incessantly spout on the subject.These words are heard and become a part of the culture of vulnerable young black males)

Now click the link above Granny. Do you see that YOUNG JEEZY HAS BEEN ACCEPTED INTO the "Black/Democratic ESTABLISHMENT". They want to win the run-off election that pit Democrat Jim Martin against Republican Senator Zaxby Chambliss.

This establishment KNOWS that Jeezy has a strong imprint upon BLACK PEOPLE. Thus they asked him to appear on stage. Upon hearing his name -THEY KNEW THAT THEY WOULD DRAW A CROWD.

Why doesn't WHITEBOWIESTEVE get offended by the IGNORANT White and Black people who degrade Black people so much to think that in order to rally Black people in POLITICS you must bring an IGNORANT and VIOLENT artist to a political rally?

You all get bent out of shape over the Tea Party Movement. It shows proof, to you, of "Republican Racism". If you want to walk in my shoes - take this same sentiment and apply it to WHAT IS ON STAGE in the picture above.

Accepting Young Jeezy into their fold, standing behind him as he speaks are:

* The President Of Atlanta City Council* A sitting US Representative* A Pastor of a large Black church* The SHERIFF Of Dekalb County Georgia - a man who would have ARRESTED YOUNG JEEZY had he been caught slinging poison into our community had his MUSIC not been accepted by the masses.

INSTEAD of REPUDIATING HIM - as YOU ALL demand that the Republicans do to the White guy that Filled Negro has highlighted in a recent story - YOU ALL DON'T SAY A DAMNED THING about this OUTRAGE.

YOU ALL prove the fraudulence of YOUR OWN positions by failing to repudiate ROGUE CHARACTERS until they come back into the fold.

More people who were "Down With Jeezy" have murdered Black people in the past 5 years than murders of Blacks who are "Down With Rush Limbaugh".

WhiteBowieSteve talks about how he and others reject my views. THIS is the reason why I REJECT many of YOURS. You accept a man and a genre that has been MORE DEADLY TO OUR PEOPLE than the people you dislike BECAUSE the "Hip Hop Voice Of The Street Pirate" ultimately agrees with you ideologically and politically.

[quote] But some of his ideas can lead folks down the wrong path.[/quote]

Mellaneous - you are a fraud. (Yes - you are right. Now that I know your gender - you had better put on the equipment.)

I would love it IF you tell me "HOW I can LEAD FOLKS DOWN THE WRONG PATH"?

Please call DFACS and have them take away my two children then.I as a RESIDENT BLACK FATHER bear upon their character everyday. Put them in foster care, separate them from their FATHER. Put them into the caring arms OF THE SYSTEM.

Tell HATHOR to excuse me from my Black Community service. You see - each week I interact with young Black males in a reading program. Instead they should be given a "Wanted" photo of me and be told to BAN ME from the program - I MAY LEAD THEM DOWN THE WRONG PATH.

Maybe in the mind of Mellaneous that "wrong path" is acceptance and pride about THE BEAST who's belly I live within.

If they lose their spirit of grievance against the BEAST they may become a corporate capitalist.

They may start working in management positions for very companies that they now have a CONSUMER relationship with - as Mellaneous does.

[quote]Conservatives are trapped in a self-reinforcing paradigm of opposition to intellectualism, science and reason.[/quote]

Purple Cow:

I like you man.If we were in a boxing match - YOU would figure that you are using your BRAIN but in fact you are "Leading With Your Face". You seem to like running your face into your opponent's glove.

In the "Victim" documentary that I just watched they noted the low number of certified science teachers instructing Black and Hispanic school students. We need to get the CONSERVATIVES out of these teaching positions and give the Progressives who are more scientifically inclined opportunity to provide for our children's education.

One year into "Hope" I am stunned as to how so many of the "Obama Manhood Protectors", as they do their "Year In Review" only ask themselves "How did OBAMA CHANGE so much and disappoint our lofty expectations? Did he become more Republican?"

Purple Cow - AT NO TIME do these intellectual powerhouses think to consider where THEY STOOD with respect to the real world and how THEY were askew.

I have a video of a lady that I typically present to make a better case than I can with my words. Unfortunately the service is temporarily unavailable. She believed that the Earth's axis shifted when Obama won. As she stood in Hyde Park in Chicago listening to him she noted the extreme peace. Sadly, a few months later her son was shot dead on the streets of Chicago. It was clear that the Street Pirates wore the "Obama T-Shirt" as a fashion statement rather than a sign of what was in his heart and mind.

* Science and Reason?Purple Cow - I am one of those Conservatives who watches the Discovery Channel and National Geographic more than I care to watch "American Idol" or some reruns from the UK on PBS.

Here is what I don't understand Purple Cow - about 100,000 years ago the landmass we now know as New York City had a sheet of ice that was 1 mile thick. The scientists went to a rock formation and noted that the ridges that were in the rock were caused by the boulders that were dragged as the glaciers which bore the weight of this thick ice on top.

When it comes to "Climate Change" - me as an anti-science Conservative (in your words) find it interesting that despite the evidence that the Earth's climate has ALWAYS BEEN CHANGING - we are now being told about "Global Climate Change" by Al Gore and others.

Purple Cow - if you could explain how all life on Earth came in the form of bacteria that had crashed into the planet as it rode in the "slushy" part of an asteroid that hit the Earth - I would be most appreciative of your brilliance.

And I am respectfully ignoring you because your ulterior motive is not right. You want me to condemn one person because you don't agree with them and uphold another because they make you feel more comfortable in your way of thinking. Sorry, hon, but I've never been in the habit of dancing to anyone's tune or jump when they say jump and I'm not about to start doing that either. So hold don't hold your breathe.

BTW, you should respectfully stay out of CF and mine disagreements because he and I might argue like cats and dogs but we don't dislike or hate each other. We just disagree with each other on certain issues.

Granny poo bear: my only motive is for you to speak the "truth" about your religion in all settings rather than just when you see fit. I would hate to think you are playing the "christ card". But maybe you are.

The person getting in your other arguments is not me. Sorry, another anon I guess.

[quote: Constructive Feedback] If we were in a boxing match - YOU would figure that you are using your BRAIN but in fact you are "Leading With Your Face". You seem to like running your face into your opponent's glove.[/quote]

Odd then that I am still waiting for you to throw your first punch.

(Unless you consider standing in your corner spouting stream-of-consciousness drivel while your second desperately attempts to throw in your towel 'throwing a punch'.)

[quote: Constructive Feedback] We need to get the CONSERVATIVES out of these teaching positions and give the Progressives who are more scientifically inclined opportunity to provide for our children's education. [/quote]

Errrrr, no. It was a marketing slogan, and a highly effective marketing slogan at that.

And you'll remember how Conservatives criticized Obama as "an elitist", for the crime of having studied at Harvard. Conservatives anno 2009 prefer their candidates to be down-home, folksy and dim-witted - like Failin' Palin.

[quote: Constructive Feedback] One year into "Hope" I am stunned as to how so many of the "Obama Manhood Protectors", as they do their "Year In Review" only ask themselves "How did OBAMA CHANGE so much and disappoint our lofty expectations? Did he become more Republican?"[/quote]

As I said before, he's a moderate Conservative, those who weren't expecting moderate Conservative policies are disappointed.

[quote: Constructive Feedback] Purple Cow - AT NO TIME do these intellectual powerhouses think to consider where THEY STOOD with respect to the real world and how THEY were askew.[/quote]

And how is this relevant to our debate?

[quote: Constructive Feedback] Science and Reason?Purple Cow - I am one of those Conservatives who watches the Discovery Channel and National Geographic more than I care to watch "American Idol" or some reruns from the UK on PBS.[/quote]

So in other words, your private life is as mind-crushingly tedious as your writing style. How sad.

[quote: Constructive Feedback] Here is what I don't understand Purple Cow - about 100,000 years ago the landmass we now know as New York City had a sheet of ice that was 1 mile thick. The scientists went to a rock formation and noted that the ridges that were in the rock were caused by the boulders that were dragged as the glaciers which bore the weight of this thick ice on top.[/quote]

Yes very good. As any schoolboy knows, the ice-ages were caused by variations in the Earth’s orbit round the sun called ‘Milankovich cycles’. The next one isn’t due for 30,000 years, so you don’t have to lose sleep over them. So what it exactly that you don't understand?

[quote: Constructive Feedback] When it comes to "Climate Change" - me as an anti-science Conservative (in your words) find it interesting that despite the evidence that the Earth's climate has ALWAYS BEEN CHANGING - we are now being told about "Global Climate Change" by Al Gore and others.[/quote]

Al Gore is an idiot of long standing, however you will no doubt be surprised to know that that doesn't mean that climate change isn't real. Ask the world’s climatologists. You could start by reading this…

http://ipcc-wg1.ucar.edu/wg1/FAQ/wg1_faq-6.2.html

[quote: Constructive Feedback] Purple Cow - if you could explain how all life on Earth came in the form of bacteria that had crashed into the planet as it rode in the "slushy" part of an asteroid that hit the Earth - I would be most appreciative of your brilliance.[/quote]

Well yes, Exobiology is one of the scientific theories about how life here began. So what? What’s your point? Do you want me to explain Exobiology to you? Don’t they have google where you live?

What's your pet theory, CF? Was it the shape-shifting lizzard people who brought life to earth?

I like this fellow Purple Cow!!!Maybe the Queen will one day allow him in to buff her good silver.

[quote]Errrrr, no. It was a marketing slogan, and a highly effective marketing slogan at that.[/quote]

It is a given that it was a "marketing slogan".

So were:

* the "Free Chicken Feed" sign posted above the entrance to the slaughter house

* the sign in Filled Negro's lawn about 25 years ago in Philly which said: "Once we get people in the school system who love our children and care about our people - we will have a first class school system".

* "I am a blank canvas. I can morph into anything that you desire - EXCEPT those which violate my commitment to Michelle and my daughters. Paint your DREAMS upon me and then VOTE for me - straight ticket".

Purple Cow:

When you say EFFECTIVE - "Effective FOR WHOM?" and "Resulting in the advancement of WHO'S Permanent Interests?" comes to mind.

"You know I did go back to the 50's and guess what it dawn on me how those same democrats switched to the Republican side"

That's what the democrats keep repeating. Is it true?

The 2 biggest objectors to blacks having civil rights were grand kleagle robert byrd and al gore sr. They used the political trick known as a fillabuster to prevent republicans for voting on it. Neither the byrd or gore families left the democrat party.

"BTW, power cocaine was a white thing. In fact, that is why the laws were unfair because it is them that got the slap on wrist and freedom when the book was thrown at blacks and they were sentenced to prison."

Exactly! And which sitting vice president came up with that law? Go figure, it was the same white democrat that had never met a clean/articulate African American until he met Obama.Why did Biden author a law that was so unfair to blacks? Any ideas?

Jealous of CF? And CF thinks too deeply for me to comprehend? Hahahahaha! I don't even know how to tell you this but I am not the one needing anyone to help me THINK. If I remember correctly you're the one that said he makes you think. In other words, you are mentally lazy!

Wow, so all someone has to do to be considered a deep thinker in your opinion is rant about urban street pirates or demonize black folks on every single topic each chance they get even when the topic does not pertain to that. In addition, justify racism, praise capitalism, beat up on the poor and downtrodden and that's deep? Dang! You really do need someone to help you think. CF is intelligent and I won't deny that. I've even told him that myself before, but deep, naaaaah!

As for where I stand with God, that is between him and me. What you think doesn't matter unless God left his throne and put you in charge, which I doubt very seriously. When Jesus came on earth he was drinking wine and partying with the sinners and folks like you didn't think he was the Messiah either. In your opinion, I should be acting like the Pharisees and Sadducees. The letter kill it, but the Spirit make it alive.

I hate to tell you this but you don't sound like you're emotionally stable or mature enough to be blogging on Field's blog because you seem to have a problem with others voicing their opinion if it is not tailored to suit you. Also, you're too overly sensitive. I take it your a female and maybe your hormones are out of wack at least that would explain the overly sensitive issues you have. Big crybaby!

BTW, I suspect that you are gonna to get upset whenever I post, because guess what, I am not gonna say things to please you or that you think I should say, nor am I gonna act the way you think I should act. Therefore, to sum it up, what you think about me, is not worth two dead flies.

Granny, "Also, you're too overly sensitive. I take it your a female and maybe your hormones are out of wack at least that would explain the overly sensitive issues you have. Big crybaby!"

Granny, your comment indicates that it is YOU who is overly sensitive but you don't know it. roflmao!

"Wow, so all someone has to do to be considered a deep thinker in your opinion is rant about urban street pirates or demonize black folks on every single topic each chance they get even when the topic does not pertain to that. In addition, justify racism, praise capitalism, beat up on the poor and downtrodden and that's deep? Dang! You really do need someone to help you think. CF is intelligent and I won't deny that. I've even told him that myself before, but deep, naaaaah!"

Granny, YOU have 'demonized' CF unfairly and you have crooked views about him. You are also a bunch of noise.

BTW, We all have to answer to God, including YOU! Now go run along to bed because this is a school night and children shouldn't be up this late unless their in an unsupervised household, which I am beginning to think is the case with you.

[quote:Anon]What? You talk, think and offend exactly like a Democrat. A Socialist has a heart and does not offend. Besides, with a name like "Purple Cow" you could only be a knuckleheaded drunk ass dem.[/quote]

I see little or no practical difference between Dems and Republicans. Democrats are essentially centerists, or (as in Obama'a case) moderate Conservatives. Republicans are ever more extremists, shifting further and further to the far Right.

Democrats are not the answer to America's problems. Democrats lack self confidence in their own ideals. Though they would never admit it, in their heart-of-hearts they believe the Republican's propaganda.

@The Purple Cow, "Democrats are not the answer to America's problems. Democrats lack self confidence in their own ideals. Though they would never admit it, in their heart-of-hearts they believe the Republican's propaganda."

You are absolutely right. That is the reason Democrats cannot get anything done in Congress. They lack conviction and "will". The Republicans have conviction and plenty of will.

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