It would be extremely naive to think that governments wouldn't use this technology.

For what purpose would they be using this technology exactly?

Can't wait to hear this one.

Very simple--social control. For the record, I'm not a fan of finding hidden occult messages in movies, tv shows, or commercials although I am keenly
aware that ancient symbolism may sometimes provoke a response. That said, to me, it's patently clear that the social controls exist in the US. Some
of them are self-perpetuating, as Roseanne states, and some of them are outright manipulations. One of the things that I do is listen and basically
find patterns in thinking, especially those that can be directly sourced from media, itself. Kind of like "Get a job, you dirty hippy!". Where do
you think that line originated? Fox.

The whole art of the orator probably consists in his giving listeners the illusion that the convictions and feelings he arouses within them have
come not from him but from themselves, that he has only divined and lent his voice to what has been worked out in their innermost consciousness.
Maurice Halbwachs, On Collective Memory

Very interesting book, btw. Social control or mind control isn't something that was just being researched by Nazis. IT was actually a subject of
research that really gained momentum in the early to mid 1940's. You have the likes of Sigmund Freud, Maurice Halbwachs, Edward Bernays (politics and
marketing), John B. Watson and his "Little Albert" experiment, Ivan Pavlov--all basically toying with ideas that were both novel at the time and
opened the door for the idea that conditioning[/] could be a way to control an individual. They basically opened Pandora's Box. Social control
and mind control are pretty much the same thing as both are deliberately using the human psyche to control order and attempt to provoke premeditated
responses whether it's buying a particular brand of clothing or buying into a particular politician or political party. Or a war. The two biggest
things that I see that I suspect as being indicators that social controls are being utilized on US citizen is "us v. them" mentalities, the
sometimes rabid and irrational defense of things that should not be important to them (ie. saying you're going to vote independent or a third party,
better yet--try telling people that you don't watch tv), controlled opposition, and then, there are those people who are saying the same damn things,
often word for word, in a perverse Halbwachian echo.

Why? Because it keeps us busy. It keeps us buying things whether it be a product or an ideology. We are a democracy and that means that, whatever
the public thinks is what is intended to become the law (with checks in place at the Executive and Judicial branches to assure constitutionality).
Compartmentalizing us and setting up strict boundaries for behavior that become literally self-preserving and self-perpetuating in an effort to simply
maintain the status quo. If you look at anything--anything at all--the larger and more complex something becomes, the more difficult it is to
control. That should be a no brainer. It's precisely the same claim as why CEOs of mega corporations deserve such large paychecks (and stock
options!). Same thing applies to nations and each has its own methodology for attempting to maintain it. Ours is just based on a whole lot of
psychiatric research, philosophy, sociology, and educational theory.

Why do some seem to have been hit with more? Social position, perhaps? Potentiality of what they may become as they do look for future leadership
capabilities in children, usually starting at the 3rd grade? One of the things that I find very interesting is that, usually when a large political
movement erupts, there's always some great orator that naturally arises from it. Civil rights had MLK, Jr, Free Speech Movement had Mario Savio,
Anti-war movement had J. Robert Oppenheimer. Although Occupy made claim that they were a "leaderless movement", they should've still had a great
orator rise up. Didn't happen and I thought that was a little weird.

As I always say. Listen to Alice, she is presently in that rabbit hole you are all just imagining.....
love to you Alice.

Very true. the truth is that all one has to do is look back into someones childhood in order to find the source, the difference today is that everyone
has that "person" in their homes today, it just happens be an object called a television, which is brain washing everyone especially children.

I give it 100 years from now where medical diagnoses at some point will automatically be relevant the second that a psychiatrist finds out that you
had a television in your home at some point, and how much you watched

It takes something really big to see the whole picture.. it's almost impossible for people to understand how immense the whole thing is.. It is still
almost impossible for me to believe even though I know it's real.

It takes something really big to see the whole picture.. it's almost impossible for people to understand how immense the whole thing is.. It is still
almost impossible for me to believe even though I know it's real.

Yes, for me too, if I were not living and experiencing it body, mind and soul......and suffering daily.

You would need to show evidence of a large group of people all acting and speaking the same way on any given topic with no separation at all between
their views to even begin to entertain the thought of mass mind-control and that doesn't exist anywhere that I can think of.

If your not going to use it for mass effect than why would you even bother in the first place.

I have an EXCELLENT example. How many prisons are privately owned? They get their money from state funding. How do you fill up those prisons? You
induce one form of mind control... groupthink. Remember when "Gangsta Rap" blew up in the 90's? How was that possible? Easy... MTV said "This is the
new stuff". MTV said "This is what all the COOL kids are listening to". MTV said "Thug Life!" and the industry was breed. All of a sudden it went from
"Hip Hop Hooray" and "Everybody Jump! Jump!" to "Shorty Wanna Be A Thug":

(warning, vulgarity)

Of course, you have some guys like Del Tha Funkee Homosapien who only stay big in the underground, despite being a lyrical genius, because he didn't
write about "Puttin a cap through your brain" and "Slangin' 'caine".

Right, but if you study the history of mind control "technology" it leads back to the Nazis. From my understanding the head mind control researcher
in the US was a Nazi who came over after WWII who called himself Dr. Green I believe. This is why Roseanne's German alternate set off an alarm in my
mind after having read about this stuff and seeing the history of it.

me,as well,as in my reply above. And what you mention was via Paperclip......

Make no mistake, this is the world we inhabit right now....however screened, holographic or "real" it may appear or truly be....this is the
conspiracy that gave birth to every other conspiracy.....as it stands now. it is multifaceted, multilayered, so that the kernel of truth at the root
will never be exposed, nor stopped, and you and I will never discover it; instead,l we will be eternally be caught up in race or species, or other
specious information designed to ultimately either distract or disintegrate and divivde and conquer, and at the risk of being banned, this site is
part and parcel of that endeavor. Of course,, that is only my opinion, and believe me when I say I am quite humbled these days having lived through
what I have and read and realized the stories of others living through the same.....but I stand by what I say, whatever or whomever you discern or
choose to believe who or what I am

Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
Tom Arnold said at Roseanne's roast that she had a alternate identity that was a 10 year old German boy.. and I honestly don't think he was joking.

She admits to multiple personalities. She says she has 7.

Yeah, and you are so sure of whom you think you are every other day? Just sayi......how do you even know what time or the date it is: I'll bet the
computer tells you so.....get where I'm going with this and my point? If you don't I can be of no help.

Originally posted by TheKeyMaster
Tom Arnold said at Roseanne's roast that she had a alternate identity that was a 10 year old German boy.. and I honestly don't think he was joking.

She admits to multiple personalities. She says she has 7.

Yeah, and you are so sure of whom you think you are every other day? Just sayi......how do you even know what time or the date it is: I'll bet the
computer tells you so.....get where I'm going with this and my point? If you don't I can be of no help.

Not sure what you are getting at here. Like Ive already said, I have met Roseanne. I have sat and talked with her. I believe her 100%.

The statement I made there was a statement of fact, nothing more.

Time or date? Seriously? I dont worry about what time or date it is...sorry if that ruins your point...

I have a theory. She is bats*** crazy. Or just attention craving. Might be both. It's okay to be nuts, a LOT of people are nuts, everybody just hides
the nuttiness and acts normal in front of other people in fear of being ostracized and singled out as the freak. The problem is when you're actually
bananas.

I've seen this thing in a lot of crazy people, is that they can expose their nonsensical ideas, and make them WORK, dammit. They make SENSE. Sort of.
Maybe. The way they say it, and the complete and total confidence that they say it in just makes you think, hey, she doesn't have a sign that
claims the end times are now (the end times ARE now, by the way), and is not screaming like a madman -- she's saying her points calmly, how could she
be wrong?

In your face mind control.
This is a program on British tv called - Have I got News for you.
Its aimed at those who have an interest in politics and therefore need to be......Controlled!
It looks at the weeks news, usually the political news, and it turns serious news into hilarious news.
Just try talking to someone who's watched this about a subject they've seen on this program.

Me: Did you hear about _insert subject here_
Them: ha ha ha did you see Have I got news for you ha ha ha

Mind control is real, as the above program proves, 25 mins in front of the tv is enough to program those who consider themselves to be politically
awake. Just think what it does to those who DON'T think!

I know it is a difficult concept to grasp, but various organizations have spent a lot of time and resources studying this technology. Whether or not
it exists, I cannot prove it either way. I just believe that there is at least some truth to this phenomena, maybe Roseanne isn't the best example,
but she is one of many.

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