wxboy:I was just scanning through the Wikipedia articles on this and found this (properly sourced) quote by Obama from two days ago:

Now, obviously, we've been watching these big protests. Our number-one priority has been making sure that our embassies and consulates are protected. Number two, what we've consistently insisted on is that all parties involved -- whether it's members of Mr. Morsi's party or the opposition -- that they remain peaceful.

Spindle:HighOnCraic: Seriously, what is the beef that the Egyptian protesters have with Morsi?I've been trying to keep abreast of the situation, and I fully acknowlege how serious it is. They're just massing together in a huge blob, stirring up trouble unnecessarily. The whole thing seems a bit fishy to me. Sure, I know his budget is filled with pork, which makes it hard to make ends meet.Is murdering him really a viable solution? Acting like a bunch of gang-bangers will only undermine their cause in the international media. I can understand why people don't trust the Muslim Brotherhood; I've been to several of their parties, and they were all just sausage-fests. I worry that if the Egyptian citizens go to battle against the Egyptian armed forces, they'll be like lambs led to slaughter, and Egyptian medics will only be able to provide meatball surgery on the survivors, and that would be simply terrible. I'll be frank, if Hillary Rodham Clinton were still the secretary of state, she could go there and deliver a solution, because she's a woman who knows how to bring home the bacon, but I'm sure some of you doubt that some crabby old hag is capable of accomplishing anything. You're all just full of boloney! Maybe John Kerry will give it a shot, doggedly working day and night until peace is established, or maybe he'll just wing it. I wish some moderate writer in the Middle East, maybe someone like Salmon Rushdie, would speak out on this issue; unfortunately, they're all too chicken. I guess they just don't want to gamble when the steaks are this high. Finding a peaceful solution is nothing to knock, worst-case-scenario, Morsi will just duck the issue and run off to retire in Turkey. But the bottom line is, violent protests are not the answer to the Egyptian problem; I would do anything for my love of freedom, but I won't do that.If any of you farkers want to discuss this with me, my e-mail address is in my profile; just don't fill up my inbox with spam.

HighOnCraic:Seriously, what is the beef that the Egyptian protesters have with Morsi?I've been trying to keep abreast of the situation, and I fully acknowlege how serious it is. They're just massing together in a huge blob, stirring up trouble unnecessarily. The whole thing seems a bit fishy to me. Sure, I know his budget is filled with pork, which makes it hard to make ends meet.Is murdering him really a viable solution? Acting like a bunch of gang-bangers will only undermine their cause in the international media. I can understand why people don't trust the Muslim Brotherhood; I've been to several of their parties, and they were all just sausage-fests. I worry that if the Egyptian citizens go to battle against the Egyptian armed forces, they'll be like lambs led to slaughter, and Egyptian medics will only be able to provide meatball surgery on the survivors, and that would be simply terrible. I'll be frank, if Hillary Rodham Clinton were still the secretary of state, she could go there and deliver a solution, because she's a woman who knows how to bring home the bacon, but I'm sure some of you doubt that some crabby old hag is capable of accomplishing anything. You're all just full of boloney! Maybe John Kerry will give it a shot, doggedly working day and night until peace is established, or maybe he'll just wing it. I wish some moderate writer in the Middle East, maybe someone like Salmon Rushdie, would speak out on this issue; unfortunately, they're all too chicken. I guess they just don't want to gamble when the steaks are this high. Finding a peaceful solution is nothing to knock, worst-case-scenario, Morsi will just duck the issue and run off to retire in Turkey. But the bottom line is, violent protests are not the answer to the Egyptian problem; I would do anything for my love of freedom, but I won't do that.If any of you farkers want to discuss this with me, my e-mail address is in my profile; just don't fill up my inbox with spam.

"On 22 November 2012[4] Egyptian protests started, with hundreds of thousands of protesters demonstrating against Egyptian president Mohammed Morsi, after he granted himself unlimited powers to "protect" the nation,[5][6] and the power to legislate without judicial oversight or review of his acts.[7]"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Arab_Spring

But Muhammad made me, soMuhammad save mefrom pity, sympathyAnd people discussing meA frame of useless limbsWhat can make good of the bad that's been done?

devildog123:buckler: I sometimes wish our military had the same resolve when Bush the Lesser was in power.

You do realize what party the large majority of military personnel vote for, right? I'll give you a hint. Walk into most military gyms or PX food courts with TVs, and they will be tuned to Fox News, or maybe ESPN. The military is just a tad more conservative than you seem to think it is.

Yeah, I know. I was, when I joined, liberal-leaning, as I am now. It's one reason I never engaged in political talk with anyone except those I knew personally and trusted.

HighOnCraic:Seriously, what is the beef that the Egyptian protesters have with Morsi?I've been trying to keep abreast of the situation, and I fully acknowlege how serious it is. They're just massing together in a huge blob, stirring up trouble unnecessarily. The whole thing seems a bit fishy to me. Sure, I know his budget is filled with pork, which makes it hard to make ends meet.Is murdering him really a viable solution? Acting like a bunch of gang-bangers will only undermine their cause in the international media. I can understand why people don't trust the Muslim Brotherhood; I've been to several of their parties, and they were all just sausage-fests. I worry that if the Egyptian citizens go to battle against the Egyptian armed forces, they'll be like lambs led to slaughter, and Egyptian medics will only be able to provide meatball surgery on the survivors, and that would be simply terrible. I'll be frank, if Hillary Rodham Clinton were still the secretary of state, she could go there and deliver a solution, because she's a woman who knows how to bring home the bacon, but I'm sure some of you doubt that some crabby old hag is capable of accomplishing anything. You're all just full of boloney! Maybe John Kerry will give it a shot, doggedly working day and night until peace is established, or maybe he'll just wing it. I wish some moderate writer in the Middle East, maybe someone like Salmon Rushdie, would speak out on this issue; unfortunately, they're all too chicken. I guess they just don't want to gamble when the steaks are this high. Finding a peaceful solution is nothing to knock, worst-case-scenario, Morsi will just duck the issue and run off to retire in Turkey. But the bottom line is, violent protests are not the answer to the Egyptian problem; I would do anything for my love of freedom, but I won't do that.If any of you farkers want to discuss this with me, my e-mail address is in my profile; just don't fill up my inbox with spam.

You'd biatch about it either way, that's for certain."Wah wah wah, Muslims have took over Egypt.""Wah wah wah, military has removed the Muslim dictator that was fairly elected, wah wah wah."

Yes. Both of those are pretty shiatty outcomes, I think.

Morsi's job was to help formulate a new constitution. The anti-Islamists wanted nothing to do with the process, and now are pissed that they were left out. For the most part, Morsi has been a pitiable bystander in watching his country get torn apart.

Think of Morsi as Obama and the protestors as the House Republicans. The ideals may be different, but the tactics are very similar.

tuna fingers:HighOnCraic: Seriously, what is the beef that the Egyptian protesters have with Morsi?I've been trying to keep abreast of the situation, and I fully acknowlege how serious it is. They're just massing together in a huge blob, stirring up trouble unnecessarily. The whole thing seems a bit fishy to me. Sure, I know his budget is filled with pork, which makes it hard to make ends meet.Is murdering him really a viable solution? Acting like a bunch of gang-bangers will only undermine their cause in the international media. I can understand why people don't trust the Muslim Brotherhood; I've been to several of their parties, and they were all just sausage-fests. I worry that if the Egyptian citizens go to battle against the Egyptian armed forces, they'll be like lambs led to slaughter, and Egyptian medics will only be able to provide meatball surgery on the survivors, and that would be simply terrible. I'll be frank, if Hillary Rodham Clinton were still the secretary of state, she could go there and deliver a solution, because she's a woman who knows how to bring home the bacon, but I'm sure some of you doubt that some crabby old hag is capable of accomplishing anything. You're all just full of boloney! Maybe John Kerry will give it a shot, doggedly working day and night until peace is established, or maybe he'll just wing it. I wish some moderate writer in the Middle East, maybe someone like Salmon Rushdie, would speak out on this issue; unfortunately, they're all too chicken. I guess they just don't want to gamble when the steaks are this high. Finding a peaceful solution is nothing to knock, worst-case-scenario, Morsi will just duck the issue and run off to retire in Turkey. But the bottom line is, violent protests are not the answer to the Egyptian problem; I would do anything for my love of freedom, but I won't do that.If any of you farkers want to discuss this with me, my e-mail address is in my profile; just don't fill up my inbox with spam.

Saiga410:tuna fingers: HighOnCraic: Seriously, what is the beef that the Egyptian protesters have with Morsi?I've been trying to keep abreast of the situation, and I fully acknowlege how serious it is. They're just massing together in a huge blob, stirring up trouble unnecessarily. The whole thing seems a bit fishy to me. Sure, I know his budget is filled with pork, which makes it hard to make ends meet.Is murdering him really a viable solution? Acting like a bunch of gang-bangers will only undermine their cause in the international media. I can understand why people don't trust the Muslim Brotherhood; I've been to several of their parties, and they were all just sausage-fests. I worry that if the Egyptian citizens go to battle against the Egyptian armed forces, they'll be like lambs led to slaughter, and Egyptian medics will only be able to provide meatball surgery on the survivors, and that would be simply terrible. I'll be frank, if Hillary Rodham Clinton were still the secretary of state, she could go there and deliver a solution, because she's a woman who knows how to bring home the bacon, but I'm sure some of you doubt that some crabby old hag is capable of accomplishing anything. You're all just full of boloney! Maybe John Kerry will give it a shot, doggedly working day and night until peace is established, or maybe he'll just wing it. I wish some moderate writer in the Middle East, maybe someone like Salmon Rushdie, would speak out on this issue; unfortunately, they're all too chicken. I guess they just don't want to gamble when the steaks are this high. Finding a peaceful solution is nothing to knock, worst-case-scenario, Morsi will just duck the issue and run off to retire in Turkey. But the bottom line is, violent protests are not the answer to the Egyptian problem; I would do anything for my love of freedom, but I won't do that.If any of you farkers want to discuss this with me, my e-mail address is in my profile; just don't fill up my inbox with spam. ...

tuna fingers:HighOnCraic: Seriously, what is the beef that the Egyptian protesters have with Morsi?I've been trying to keep abreast of the situation, and I fully acknowlege how serious it is. They're just massing together in a huge blob, stirring up trouble unnecessarily. The whole thing seems a bit fishy to me. Sure, I know his budget is filled with pork, which makes it hard to make ends meet.Is murdering him really a viable solution? Acting like a bunch of gang-bangers will only undermine their cause in the international media. I can understand why people don't trust the Muslim Brotherhood; I've been to several of their parties, and they were all just sausage-fests. I worry that if the Egyptian citizens go to battle against the Egyptian armed forces, they'll be like lambs led to slaughter, and Egyptian medics will only be able to provide meatball surgery on the survivors, and that would be simply terrible. I'll be frank, if Hillary Rodham Clinton were still the secretary of state, she could go there and deliver a solution, because she's a woman who knows how to bring home the bacon, but I'm sure some of you doubt that some crabby old hag is capable of accomplishing anything. You're all just full of boloney! Maybe John Kerry will give it a shot, doggedly working day and night until peace is established, or maybe he'll just wing it. I wish some moderate writer in the Middle East, maybe someone like Salmon Rushdie, would speak out on this issue; unfortunately, they're all too chicken. I guess they just don't want to gamble when the steaks are this high. Finding a peaceful solution is nothing to knock, worst-case-scenario, Morsi will just duck the issue and run off to retire in Turkey. But the bottom line is, violent protests are not the answer to the Egyptian problem; I would do anything for my love of freedom, but I won't do that.If any of you farkers want to discuss this with me, my e-mail address is in my profile; just don't fill up my inbox with spam.

Who are we supposed to be rooting for here again? I need a scorecard to tell the sides apart. One weird thing about all those people demonstrating; no women. Any women venturing out would be attacked and raped by either side; what a great culture, huh? Really hard to sympathize with either point of view.

KarmicDisaster:Who are we supposed to be rooting for here again? I need a scorecard to tell the sides apart. One weird thing about all those people demonstrating; no women. Any women venturing out would be attacked and raped by either side; what a great culture, huh? Really hard to sympathize with either point of view.

One group wants a secular democracy, and the other group wants a fundamentalist Islamist dictatorship. I don't see how it's hard to pick a side, unless you are really suggesting everyone anti-Morsi is a rapist.

RealAmericanHero:One group wants a secular democracy, and the other group wants a fundamentalist Islamist dictatorship. I don't see how it's hard to pick a side, unless you are really suggesting everyone anti-Morsi is a rapist.

Jake? Is that you? Wow, man. Long time, no see. I'm almost nostalgic for you given the quality of the trolling on this site recently. Hope all is well. I like the angle you've taken--with the protest signs and all. That should liven things up around here.