(Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
I wish you would read all media outlets, I mix it up and if they report a fact then there is no arguing against it.

I do read a lot of different outlets, Mainstream and others. I agree with you that to find things out properly these days you need to. Corbyn is unfortunately one person that the mainstream media seem to be united against (recent LSE study said 83% don't report fairly on him), so I suggest anyone wanting to find out more about him, looks beyond the mainstream outlets.

(Original post by Sebastian Bartlett)
Difference was most reliable brexit polls actually showed leads ranging from about 8 points to remain to about 3 points to leave so not really that off. This is 16 points, 16 points! and most polls are showing huge gaps of 12+. Of course he could still win but very unlikely and polls may not be 100% accurate but not 16 points out.

Fair enough. Let us see how things go. The human mind is very malleable and things may take a different turn.

(Original post by Aliccam)
Despite all of the rhetoric against Corbyn, his support continues to grow. There must be something to it?

He needs to bite into the non-Labour vote, people like me who are left leaning Conservative voters would never vote for Corbyn, his kind of Socialism is past it's sell by date. So why he may be the darling of what is becoming a defunct party, he is no darling for the rest of us. May will trounce Corbyn at the next election.

(Original post by dozyrosie)
He needs to bite into the non-Labour vote, people like me who are left leaning Conservative voters would never vote for Corbyn, his kind of Socialism is past it's sell by date. So why he may be the darling of what is becoming a defunct party, he is no darling for the rest of us. May will trounce Corbyn at the next election.

No point biting into the Tory vote, half of them have already left Labour and gone back to the Tories. He is going for those that wouldn't vote for anyone before, and now maybe have someone worth voting for.

So, he brings absolute transparency and integrity about what he stands for. Unlike Teresa May and her incredibly hypocritical speech on the steps of No. 10. It is of course highly questionable if he can win an election on this agenda. Also against the full weight of the vested interests of the Tory press and business fat cats. Add to this the fact that if he does gain more traction the Establishment powers will probably arrange for him to be killed. But just be happy that there is a least a choice to be made for the first time in a while.

(Original post by Aliccam)
No point biting into the Tory vote, half of them have already left Labour and gone back to the Tories. He is going for those that wouldn't vote for anyone before, and now maybe have someone worth voting for.

If that really is the tactic to be applied by Corbyn then he is a bigger fool than he already sounds like. Is he really going to "dream up" new voters?

(Original post by dozyrosie)
If that really is the tactic to be applied by Corbyn then he is a bigger fool than he already sounds like. Is he really going to "dream up" new voters?

They exist 35% of the electorate don't vote. That is more than voted for the Tories last time and they won. Quite a big pool to fish in, only needs to add a small proportion of them to the existing Labour vote to win an election.

(Original post by Aliccam)
They exist 35% of the electorate don't vote. That is more than voted for the Tories last time and they won. Quite a big pool to fish in, only needs to add a small proportion of them to the existing Labour vote to win an election.

What is Corbyn going to do to entice these non voters to accept his neo-communist agenda? I don't know why you think that non-voters swing to Corbyn's dance, and if Scotland goes independent then Labour becomes totally unelectable for ever. When Corbyn loses the next GE then he will be gone anyway.

(Original post by dozyrosie)
What is Corbyn going to do to entice these non voters to accept his neo-communist agenda? I don't know why you think that non-voters swing to Corbyn's dance, and if Scotland goes independent then Labour becomes totally unelectable for ever. When Corbyn loses the next GE then he will be gone anyway.

If you think his policies and agenda are neo-communist you obviously don't know what they are.