good, picks are a failed guitarists excuse not to practice proper bass technique

Seriously, stop. We know, you dont need to keep reminding us that the only thing that surpasses your elitism is your close-mindedness.

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Theres a fine line, and passing judgements on players who you think are playing bass improperly is crossing it.

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"So often our hands get caught up in ruts of muscle memory. 'Muscle memory' is an accurate term. We get used to doing certain things, without even being aware of them. This ultimately not only shapes and therefore limits our technique, it also shapes what we compose, what we write. We end up thinking still unknowingly trapped in that box." -Adam Nitti

Fucking stop already. This thread is about building muscle in the hands. If you want to finish this argument hop back over to the "Pick bassists shunned by finger bassists' thread. If not, then stick on topic.

"So often our hands get caught up in ruts of muscle memory. 'Muscle memory' is an accurate term. We get used to doing certain things, without even being aware of them. This ultimately not only shapes and therefore limits our technique, it also shapes what we compose, what we write. We end up thinking still unknowingly trapped in that box." -Adam Nitti

good, picks are a failed guitarists excuse not to practice proper bass technique

agreed, plus picks make it sound like a guitar instead of bass it makes it all treble and mid heavy, i hate the sound, the only way i agree to picking is if your in a grindcore band!!!!, it is a preference just a cruddy cheating preference!!!

NoOBs!

2006-08-28, 22:56

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I play fingerstyle too but did you ever hear John Glascock of Jethro Tull on Bursting Out? I was surprised to discover he played with a pick. Great feel and a great bassist.

Now that is an excellent exercise! Thanks for posting it.
How fast can you all play it perfectly ... I can only do it very slowly

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2006-08-29, 16:52

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This exercise is a bitch! Really makes you stretch. Honestly, I probably play it about half the speed it should be played at but I'm getting better!

2006-08-29, 21:30

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yea it is lol

i dont even think there should be a speed to the exercise it really doesnt matter how fast you play it. It will still help the same

2006-08-30, 17:36

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i dont even think there should be a speed to the exercise it really doesnt matter how fast you play it. It will still help the same

Agreed

2006-08-31, 17:03

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This exercise is a bitch! Really makes you stretch. Honestly, I probably play it about half the speed it should be played at but I'm getting better!

Stretch? There's no way you can play this without moving your hand, so there's really no stretching involved. For me it's the picking hand that makes it harder.
I agree with the speed not mattering that much. It's still the best exercise I've ever seen because it's not boring but also not too hard that you can't even learn it.

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2006-09-02, 00:29

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Stretch? There's no way you can play this without moving your hand, so there's really no stretching involved. For me it's the picking hand that makes it harder.
I agree with the speed not mattering that much. It's still the best exercise I've ever seen because it's not boring but also not too hard that you can't even learn it.

By stretch I meant stretch your abilities. You're right, the difficulty is in having to move your fingering hand and picking hand positions simultaneously.

"So often our hands get caught up in ruts of muscle memory. 'Muscle memory' is an accurate term. We get used to doing certain things, without even being aware of them. This ultimately not only shapes and therefore limits our technique, it also shapes what we compose, what we write. We end up thinking still unknowingly trapped in that box." -Adam Nitti

"So often our hands get caught up in ruts of muscle memory. 'Muscle memory' is an accurate term. We get used to doing certain things, without even being aware of them. This ultimately not only shapes and therefore limits our technique, it also shapes what we compose, what we write. We end up thinking still unknowingly trapped in that box." -Adam Nitti

about the pics: maybe you just cant use the pick and you're so angry about other bassist who can? :P I usually play with fingers technique - 3 + thumb, used to play with 4 + thumb but it was screwed :P - but sometimes I play with pick for relax.

About the topic: gripmaster helps alot. my small finger in left hand used to be so weak it hurt when I was using it while playing. After a little time using that device he is almost strong as much as the other ones are. It helps for the both hands though.
I've got to check out that exercise and then I will tell yo' what i thing 'bout that.

Gripmasters are very good, I use the medium one and it has improved my speed and strength alot, especially in my plucking hand, but if you don't want to buy one of those you could just practice more...last time I checked, that helps alot. Or as Requiem mentioned...just burp the worm alot and another advantage to having strong hands and fingers...your girlfriend will throw out all her vibrators

~Cheers

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