Look guys forget about being nice. Be a jerk if you want the ladies. Tell them they are ugly so they'll never leave you because they feel they aren't attractive enough and are you a great catch because they are so ugly. Tell them they are worthless, tell them they are fat, tell them how stupid they are daily. Keep their self esteem low and they will serve you well in life. Let them get too high and mighty and these B's will think they too good for you.

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This is a joke, ladies please don't hate me I love you. All of you... but you're ugly so never leave me ok?

What I want you to do is go to google and search for return of kings. You'll find your answer there.

There is no point in being nice, and "gentlemanly" that was thrown out the window when feminism became mainstream and women wanted to be equal to men. Now treat them like crap and they'll see how great it is to be "equal." Good luck on your red pill journey.

Seriously, this whole jerk vs. nice guy thing is a bunch of bullshit. Guys who can't get a date because they lack something always blame the other guys for being jerks. Let me give it to you guys straight: if you're not attractive (that's physical looks), not confident, not well groomed and awkward around women, you're chances are low. Real jerks are generally ignored by women.

You want more attention from the female population? Here's a tip: look up some men's fashion that is popular in your area for your age group or within the social crowd you want to be noticed in. Get a haircut (like the $30 type, not the $10 at Supercuts). Get some good clothes that fit you well, forget about the bargain bins at Wal-Mart. Make some friends with people you normally don't hang out with (this helps with your confidence and ability to talk to people naturally). Find a hobby that involves people, sports teams and bands are most preferable, but other interests are also ok, as long as it doesn't involve you being isolated most of the time. Do something out of the ordinary - recite Shakespeare in the middle of the lunch quad, pull a school prank, Gangnam Style at a pep rally, get into a fight, show up to school/work in Cosplay, whatever, even if you fail or lose as long as it gets you noticed. Have a good attitude, smile often and don't let things bother you too much.

If you don't think you can do any of that, or feel that you're too "unique" to have to resort to those things, then, sorry, just take your chances, keep complaining about how the jerks always get the girls. Oh, and as a side note, women make their own choices, I find it a bit disrespectful to assume that "women choose jerks," like there is something wrong with their decision making. It's like if some girl made a post asking "Why do men always choose dumb blonds?"

There is no question that being a jerk gets more women. Women typically don't even know why. It's evolutionary psychology.

I've spent years understanding how the mechanic works. One of my best friends wrote a book on picking up women, and although he knows a bit more than I do, we're on the same page.

The core of acting like a jerk is pretending you are, or have the things that the alpha male should. You do have to distinguish between being a jerk and simply not being boring, though. There are also ramifications for which age bracket you're working with. From my observation, being a good man doesn't mean anything when she's under 25. They will all claim it does, but the proof just isn't there. There are too many other prospects for them.

Of course the worst part is that utilizing "proper dating psychology" is basically triggering a mental reflex in women for them to prove themselves worthy. To me it's just mental abuse which I won't take part in.

I frankly refuse to engage the process anymore. I've been single most of my life, been in love twice, almost married once, and I accept that I will be single for the rest of it. I act like a man should, and women will neurotically go on picking those that hurt them, or pursuing whatever fickle and shallow prerequisites they have these days. That's the entire equation. I will act with kindness, caring, integrity, and all the things women should want, and anyone who doesn't pass through that screen deserves what they wind up with.

In my experience, nice guys go one of three routes: they give up and become jerks, they give in to their weakness and take anyone who will accept them, or they get lucky and it works out (this is extremely rare).

Let me give you nice guys a fourth route: don't be single because you're a loser. Be single because you have a lot to give, because you've worked on yourself emotionally and spiritually, because you know what you want out of life and how to get there, because you have integrity and principles, talents and knowledge, because you know how to treat a woman and you refuse to be a jackass to get women to take notice. For as long as you will be single during and after that (oh, you will be), you will find that decision MUCH easier to live with, even peaceful if you have the strength to stick to your guns. Let the other people have their lunacy.

As for the typical nice-guy problem of being a doormat, let me give you another piece of advice. Women have "roles" for the men in their lives. I would know, I've been in all of them, platonic or otherwise. If any friendzoning is going to happen, make sure you draw the lines on certain behaviors where they should be. This can be difficult if you don't have experience, so use this as a guideline: don't do anything her boyfriend should be doing, and if she's single, don't do those things if she's not your girlfriend. Simple. This is nothing more than making her responsible for the decisions that she's made. Don't be surprised when it costs you female "friends".

In my experience, most men who are single spend most of their time trying to get attached as fast as possible. Don't do that. Go work on being a better man. Do it because you should, not because it's going to hook you up (because most likely it won't).

I do believe this post pretty much hits the nail on the head. Fully agree.

Seriously, this whole jerk vs. nice guy thing is a bunch of bullshit. Guys who can't get a date because they lack something always blame the other guys for being jerks. Let me give it to you guys straight: if you're not attractive (that's physical looks), not confident, not well groomed and awkward around women, you're chances are low. Real jerks are generally ignored by women.

You want more attention from the female population? Here's a tip: look up some men's fashion that is popular in your area for your age group or within the social crowd you want to be noticed in. Get a haircut (like the $30 type, not the $10 at Supercuts). Get some good clothes that fit you well, forget about the bargain bins at Wal-Mart. Make some friends with people you normally don't hang out with (this helps with your confidence and ability to talk to people naturally). Find a hobby that involves people, sports teams and bands are most preferable, but other interests are also ok, as long as it doesn't involve you being isolated most of the time. Do something out of the ordinary - recite Shakespeare in the middle of the lunch quad, pull a school prank, Gangnam Style at a pep rally, get into a fight, show up to school/work in Cosplay, whatever, even if you fail or lose as long as it gets you noticed. Have a good attitude, smile often and don't let things bother you too much.

If you don't think you can do any of that, or feel that you're too "unique" to have to resort to those things, then, sorry, just take your chances, keep complaining about how the jerks always get the girls. Oh, and as a side note, women make their own choices, I find it a bit disrespectful to assume that "women choose jerks," like there is something wrong with their decision making. It's like if some girl made a post asking "Why do men always choose dumb blonds?"

Must be nice up on that pedestal, eh? This comes across to me as an elitist type of attitude that basically says "Just change yourself into what I (general use not specific) am and you'll be fine". Sorry but I'd rather be how I am rather than become some prep or jock or whatever you're implying guys should become. Shallow traits like confidence, attractiveness, etc only go so far and are just that shallow. What should matter are deeper traits like being there for the person. Not every one is hardwired to be sociable, nor should they be expected to be to be deemed datable. So far speaking from experience, females do indeed pick the jerks then end up whining about how they got hurt to the 'nice guys'. Its not disrespectful because no one is saying they're forced into it but that they choose it (though admittedly there are exceptions like with everything).

Who are those "nice guys/good guys" and "bad boys/jerks" of which you speak? I've yet to meet a guy who I can honestly say fits the stereotype of either. I've always been under the impression that such things only truly apply in fiction, since actual people are multi-faceted. I'd rather die a spinster than deal with either a guy who honestly views himself as one or the other, or a guy who manages to be one-dimensional. Being unabashedly strange, it's not like I mix well with most people, anyway. Maybe I should become the crazy cat lady who lives down the lane from some poor kid? Then again, I'm allergic. Damn. Mutant plants?

What do you guys think about the nice and jerk. Being the jerk always gets the girl, however being nice gets you the girl sometimes but with a lot of more work. I personally can not be a jerk if I actually like the girl but if i just want something else i can.

Jerks do not always get girls. Be very careful, you sound like an "entitled nice guy". Hint: if you have to go around stating that you are a "nice guy" odds are you actually aren't a nice guy.

Who are those "nice guys/good guys" and "bad boys/jerks" of which you speak? I've yet to meet a guy who I can honestly say fits the stereotype of either. I've always been under the impression that such things only truly apply in fiction, since actual people are multi-faceted. I'd rather die a spinster than deal with either a guy who honestly views himself as one or the other, or a guy who manages to be one-dimensional. Being unabashedly strange, it's not like I mix well with most people, anyway. Maybe I should become the crazy cat lady who lives down the lane from some poor kid? Then again, I'm allergic. Damn. Mutant plants?

There is no question that being a jerk gets more women. Women typically don't even know why. It's evolutionary psychology.

I've spent years understanding how the mechanic works. One of my best friends wrote a book on picking up women, and although he knows a bit more than I do, we're on the same page.

The core of acting like a jerk is pretending you are, or have the things that the alpha male should. You do have to distinguish between being a jerk and simply not being boring, though. There are also ramifications for which age bracket you're working with. From my observation, being a good man doesn't mean anything when she's under 25. They will all claim it does, but the proof just isn't there. There are too many other prospects for them.

Of course the worst part is that utilizing "proper dating psychology" is basically triggering a mental reflex in women for them to prove themselves worthy. To me it's just mental abuse which I won't take part in.

I frankly refuse to engage the process anymore. I've been single most of my life, been in love twice, almost married once, and I accept that I will be single for the rest of it. I act like a man should, and women will neurotically go on picking those that hurt them, or pursuing whatever fickle and shallow prerequisites they have these days. That's the entire equation. I will act with kindness, caring, integrity, and all the things women should want, and anyone who doesn't pass through that screen deserves what they wind up with.

In my experience, nice guys go one of three routes: they give up and become jerks, they give in to their weakness and take anyone who will accept them, or they get lucky and it works out (this is extremely rare).

Let me give you nice guys a fourth route: don't be single because you're a loser. Be single because you have a lot to give, because you've worked on yourself emotionally and spiritually, because you know what you want out of life and how to get there, because you have integrity and principles, talents and knowledge, because you know how to treat a woman and you refuse to be a jackass to get women to take notice. For as long as you will be single during and after that (oh, you will be), you will find that decision MUCH easier to live with, even peaceful if you have the strength to stick to your guns. Let the other people have their lunacy.

As for the typical nice-guy problem of being a doormat, let me give you another piece of advice. Women have "roles" for the men in their lives. I would know, I've been in all of them, platonic or otherwise. If any friendzoning is going to happen, make sure you draw the lines on certain behaviors where they should be. This can be difficult if you don't have experience, so use this as a guideline: don't do anything her boyfriend should be doing, and if she's single, don't do those things if she's not your girlfriend. Simple. This is nothing more than making her responsible for the decisions that she's made. Don't be surprised when it costs you female "friends".

In my experience, most men who are single spend most of their time trying to get attached as fast as possible. Don't do that. Go work on being a better man. Do it because you should, not because it's going to hook you up (because most likely it won't).

I do believe this post pretty much hits the nail on the head. Fully agree.

Seriously, this whole jerk vs. nice guy thing is a bunch of bullshit. Guys who can't get a date because they lack something always blame the other guys for being jerks. Let me give it to you guys straight: if you're not attractive (that's physical looks), not confident, not well groomed and awkward around women, you're chances are low. Real jerks are generally ignored by women.

You want more attention from the female population? Here's a tip: look up some men's fashion that is popular in your area for your age group or within the social crowd you want to be noticed in. Get a haircut (like the $30 type, not the $10 at Supercuts). Get some good clothes that fit you well, forget about the bargain bins at Wal-Mart. Make some friends with people you normally don't hang out with (this helps with your confidence and ability to talk to people naturally). Find a hobby that involves people, sports teams and bands are most preferable, but other interests are also ok, as long as it doesn't involve you being isolated most of the time. Do something out of the ordinary - recite Shakespeare in the middle of the lunch quad, pull a school prank, Gangnam Style at a pep rally, get into a fight, show up to school/work in Cosplay, whatever, even if you fail or lose as long as it gets you noticed. Have a good attitude, smile often and don't let things bother you too much.

If you don't think you can do any of that, or feel that you're too "unique" to have to resort to those things, then, sorry, just take your chances, keep complaining about how the jerks always get the girls. Oh, and as a side note, women make their own choices, I find it a bit disrespectful to assume that "women choose jerks," like there is something wrong with their decision making. It's like if some girl made a post asking "Why do men always choose dumb blonds?"

Must be nice up on that pedestal, eh? This comes across to me as an elitist type of attitude that basically says "Just change yourself into what I (general use not specific) am and you'll be fine". Sorry but I'd rather be how I am rather than become some prep or jock or whatever you're implying guys should become. Shallow traits like confidence, attractiveness, etc only go so far and are just that shallow. What should matter are deeper traits like being there for the person. Not every one is hardwired to be sociable, nor should they be expected to be to be deemed datable. So far speaking from experience, females do indeed pick the jerks then end up whining about how they got hurt to the 'nice guys'. Its not disrespectful because no one is saying they're forced into it but that they choose it (though admittedly there are exceptions like with everything).

Are you for real right now? antx0r hit it right on the dot.

You just need to think logically to realize where you're wrong. Think about this for a second; what type of friends do you have? Why are you their friends? Generally, you'll become friends with people you find fun to be around. In other words, you have similar interests, you enjoy doing things with this person, you're not friends just to 'be there for them' and sit around and only whine to them about your problems.

The same concept applies for girls; they want to date someone they find funny, attractive, someone who's comfortable in their own skin, etc.. Someone who's 'desirable' by their set of traits. Funnily enough, for some reason the only time I even see guys separated into either 'nice' or 'jerk' is when a circlejerk thread of people who's love life is going terribly (like this one) appears and they spew complete garbage onto it. Essentially what these 'nice guys' are, so to speak, are people who are desperate and are hiding behind a wall of self-pity and self-righteousness. The refusal to better yourself as a person to 'preserve who you are' annoys me to no end. If you're hanging out with that 10/10 girl and she friendzones you because you're awkward, have no confidence, are boring, and are 'there for her', that doesn't make other guys a jerk, you're just an selfish, entitled loser who expects the world to fall on his lap. In terms of your 'shallow traits', you act like once you're confident and attractive, you can't have any other traits like being kind, generous, etc... Like what? Do you not understand that people are multifaceted? Confidence and attractiveness get your foot into the door and that's it. If you approach a girl and you're awkward or haven't taken a shower, they won't wanna talk to you because THEY feel awkward now. It just seems to me that you're looking for excuses and people like you are the type of people I just can't stand.