Oh man. I'm still waiting for my guy to get back to me... but I'm not too confident that he'll have anything. Fucknuts. The Lotus would be a good consolation prize though.

There isn't even a forum for their owners, since they die of hunger in the middle of nowhere cause their car died. The only person who drives them (that I know) really makes sure, that if you risk a conversation once, you will learn your lesson on the spot. The design is one of done by an ax and I'm really confidant about the spouses reaction being one that lands me in jail. Otherwise it's a great option.

There isn't even a forum for their owners, since they die of hunger in the middle of nowhere cause their car died. The only person who drives them (that I know) really makes sure, that if you risk a conversation once, you will learn your lesson on the spot. The design is one of done by an ax and I'm really confidant about the spouses reaction being one that lands me in jail. Otherwise it's a great option.

I think I'm done when it comes to cars.

Doubt you'll be stranded since the engine is from Toyota. Everything electrical will probably fail though. Good things is there isn't that much and as long as the A/C and electric windows doesn't fail at the same time you should be fine

I'm curious why the Lotus is in but the Porsche Cayman S is out? They're both the same price and pretty similar in size.

Cayman S is in my book the best driver's car available right now.

Also if you haven't driven a S4/S5 manual, I'd highly recommend it! (Also make sure you drive it in Dynamic mode). The manual on those Audis is simply sublime (shockingly so). Those cars are also superbly entertaining once you start exploring the insane amount of grip/g forces they can pull in the corners. Particularly on corner exit they just catapult you into the horizon. It's a different sort of entertainment that kicking the tail out on a RWD car yes, but entertaining nonetheless. If you change your mind, I can put you in contact with my guy at University Audi. He's young, good-looking and is a true Audi enthusiast himself so he knows his shiiiiii.

I'm curious why the Lotus is in but the Porsche Cayman S is out? They're both the same price and pretty similar in size.

Cayman S is in my book the best driver's car available right now.

Also if you haven't driven a S4/S5 manual, I'd highly recommend it! (Also make sure you drive it in Dynamic mode). The manual on those Audis is simply sublime (shockingly so). Those cars are also superbly entertaining once you start exploring the insane amount of grip/g forces they can pull in the corners. Particularly on corner exit they just catapult you into the horizon. It's a different sort of entertainment that kicking the tail out on a RWD car yes, but entertaining nonetheless. If you change your mind, I can put you in contact with my guy at University Audi. He's young, good-looking and is a true Audi enthusiast himself so he knows his shiiiiii.

haha, Cheers mate. As soon as I start buying cars on the bases of dealers looks, I will go there straight away.

I have no idea, why the idea of Porsche has no appeal to me, maybe the dealers were but ugly.

Seriously, this is harder than buying houses. I'm giving up, apparently it's not meant to be.

Also if you haven't driven a S4/S5 manual, I'd highly recommend it! (Also make sure you drive it in Dynamic mode). The manual on those Audis is simply sublime (shockingly so). Those cars are also superbly entertaining once you start exploring the insane amount of grip/g forces they can pull in the corners. Particularly on corner exit they just catapult you into the horizon. It's a different sort of entertainment that kicking the tail out on a RWD car yes, but entertaining nonetheless. If you change your mind, I can put you in contact with my guy at University Audi. He's young, good-looking and is a true Audi enthusiast himself so he knows his shiiiiii.

The low ground clearance (99mm with PASM) is a concern on the Cayman - it's always stopped me from looking at that car as a daily driver. I hate scraping and worrying about scraping.

I totally agree about the Audi S4/S5 6MT. Amazing stuff. The traction is fabulous with the AWD - it can really put the power down. The car feels very planted, and the grip and torque vectoring in corners just has to be experienced to be believed. I didn't expect it to be anywhere as good as it is, although I knew the manual transmission was superb after a short test drive.

I actually much prefer my S5 to my M5. BMW is now talking about AWD on the next-generation M5, so that will be interesting.

By the way, the M4 is larger than the S5 in all dimensions which is one thing that disappointed me about the M4.

The low ground clearance (99mm with PASM) is a concern on the Cayman - it's always stopped me from looking at that car as a daily driver. I hate scraping and worrying about scraping.

I totally agree about the Audi S4/S5 6MT. Amazing stuff. The traction is fabulous with the AWD - it can really put the power down. The car feels very planted, and the grip and torque vectoring in corners just has to be experienced to be believed. I didn't expect it to be anywhere as good as it is, although I knew the manual transmission was superb after a short test drive.

I actually much prefer my S5 to my M5. BMW is now talking about AWD on the next-generation M5, so that will be interesting.

By the way, the M4 is larger than the S5 in all dimensions which is one thing that disappointed me about the M4.

Hey I just re-read my comment from earlier, and I do hope you filter me well. Your suggestion is great, and indeed your help was appreciated. Most of the time I write like an idiot, I blame the language barrier and the hair, but the truth is I have spend too much time on keyboard, and that has turned the thought pattern into one of no class. Sorry, just do as everyone else does, blame it on Wah.

Same car? No car? Other car? Bobbycar?
Was the dealer able to check whether it is related to the M4? If so, did you push him to switch to M3 instead? And did you ask him again about courtesy delivery to the east coast?

Same car? No car? Other car? Bobbycar?
Was the dealer able to check whether it is related to the M4? If so, did you push him to switch to M3 instead? And did you ask him again about courtesy delivery to the east coast?

Okay. This is it, dealership told me I was moved too far down the line. I have a family, and I only have August to go to a totally crazy road trip without them, and the M4 will not be here till then apparently. Yes, it could work as the daily later, but I've been waiting for years for this, so I'm not going to take something awful for my holiday.

So, specs. Has to be available before August, Power, rwd, manual (this is the deal breaker), and I have eyes.

I stood at the lot full of M5 and M6 models, and those are not the answer. I'm not old enough, and I want to have a fun car, not something to park at the spouses office lot.

Sedan, Symphony, Ake, and the mean folk, go crazy.

I'm desperate.

Wah, STFU, you just make fun of me again. I'm not going anywhere for fun in that Audi.