Alpha Male Of The Month: How Did Ric Ocasek Get Paulina Porizkova?

The enduring romance of ’80s icons – Cars rockstar Ric Ocasek and supermodel Paulina Porizkova — is one of history’s greatest lessons in the power of fame and game to help a man overcome his ugly looks and snag a real beauty.

10s do exists, rare though they are. Because of a few freak contrarians wedged in the id gears, there will never be uniform agreement about female 10s among men, but you will find that large majorities of men agree strongly with which women embody physical perfection, or come closest to it.

Bing images of Paulina from her prime. She was a hard softnlovely 10, with a killer body to match her heavenly face. (I believe she was an SI Swimsuit model, ostensibly during a time when SI wasn’t squeezing fat chicks in fatkinis between its pages.) The radiant beauty of 10s is so magnificent that these women can still look bangable 20-30 years after their prime nubility.

As with many others, she was my favorite hot model then, throughout the 80’s. She was in a couple movies. Took me years to track down the foreign magazine where she posed topless. blah blah blah. let me cut to the chase.

Ya want to know how Ric Okasec of the Cars rock band got her? His fame and fortune wasn’t enough to bag THE top supermodel of that time. Nope. He had to overcome that face of his. He needed a little something called “game”.

They met filming the music video “Drive”. The director Timothy Hutton wanted to show the various aspects of a relationship and breakup. To get the scene of her crying, he had Ric and her yelling and cursing and screaming at each other, over and over to get the take correct. Interspersed with the happier scenes.

Years later, after they were married, she still gushes about those few days of filming during interviews. Does this remind you of any particular seduction technique? Anyone? Bueller?

You think a red hot supermodel who showed up for her first major modeling gig at age 14, while wearing a t-shirt that read “Too drunk to fuck” hadn’t encountered some alphas? Some fame and fortune? You think she emotionally bonded to any of those alphas?

Ric should send a thank you card every year to Timothy Hutton.

Very interesting backstory, JC. Push-pull, hot-cold, asshole-niceguy, ftw. Ric didn’t just snag Paulina; he owned her. And every woman secretly dreams of falling in love with a man psychologically strong enough to own her.

That’s the beauty of… game! Even when a man’s display of game is artificially stimulated by a third party it still exerts an arousing influence on a woman’s high and low love lobes. Think of game as the equivalent of good lighting, makeup, and a skin-tight cocktail dress. A woman has to work hard to get all those beauty-enhancing cues working for her, but when she does (and given she exceeds a natural cuteness threshold), men respond like dogs to the sound of a clattering dinner bowl.

Likewise, a man who practices the crimson arts to enhance his sexiness will trigger autonomic lust in the women blessed with his company. If he has concomitant fame, emotional range, and game-less competition that pales in contrast, the most beautiful women in the world will do more than give their sex… they’ll give their hearts, a much more precious commodity women guard like Fort Knockers.

A comment by PA pulled from that archived post linked by JC:

Ocasek has a total of six sons, two from each of his three marriages.

Even more proof that he’s alpha. When the girl loves you, her body chemistry favors XY sperm because she want to have a child that is a replica of her man.

But when she’s ‘meh’ about you, the chemistry is biased toward XX sperm, just so she can get a girl, or a copy of herself.

I know the ¡SCIENCE! for my supposition about to follow is lacking, but I’ll assert it anyway. It’s been my observation that more masculine looking or acting fathers have more sons. (And vice versa. The most beautiful girl I loved growing up had a father who was a Betamax Prime.) Maybe the reason is super sperm. Maybe it’s what PA says. Whatever it is, there’s something to the idea that women’s congenital solipsism flourishes alongside the feeble tutelage of beta males and happily retreats under the psychological leadership of alpha males. And that this id-shaped process may even extend down deep, beneath subconsciousness, to the chromosomal level.

I also read a big reason models tend to date their photographers is based on this. The photographer gets extra alpha cred by bossing her around during the shoot, what to do, where to stand, etc. Interesting note about the son/daughter split, but not so sure as I know a fairly alpha dude who has 3 daughters.

I always thought daughters were punishment for father’s alpha playdays.

Yes indeed… rather, she was a 10, judging from pics from a couple years ago. Unfortunately, she single-mommed out and started to get chubby (at least the kid is a white daughter), so she was only about a 6 when I first met her a few months ago. She’s back up to a 7 now; her ass and thighs have gotten much better defined over the past few months, but the fat on her waist and arms is slow to go. Shame, really… she was an extraordinarily pretty girl.

I have 4 daughters and find the opposite… if you are an alphaesque Dad, the poor fellas coming around pale in comparison to you. Sadly I feel sorry for both my girls and the earnest, well mannered, employed white nice guys they see. It’s strange.

And to contradict CH’s anecdote above, one of the hottest women I know has a hellraiser alpha father. Or at least he was back in the day; he’s mellowed out a bit with age.”

but what did the mom look like? and was she an alpha female? if the father is an alpha male and the mother is just average in looks, seems to make sense that the children would benefit more from having their father’s DNA more than their mother’s. so you end up with sons. so

average/ugly mom + alpha male = probably more sons because the kids benefit more from getting their dad’s DNA

hot mom + beta male = probably more girls because the kids benefit more from getting their mom’s DNA

hot mom + alpha male = you’d think you’d just get an equal number of hot daughters and alpha sons. most of the time i think that’s true.

but a woman’s looks aren’t as variable as a man’s alpha-ness. she either has it or she doesn’t whereas a guy can be a total beta for most of his life and turn into a super alpha later on or vice versa. it isn’t as constant as a woman’s DNA-related physical attributes so i would think life experience related alphaness is not as likely to be passed down as a mom’s beauty. that means, even if you’re an alpha male, if your wife is more beautiful than you are alpha, or you’re a learned alpha, not a natural, you’re gonna be less likely to have sons and more likely to have hot daughters.

there are also those families where the dad is average or maybe a lesser alpha and the mom is smoking hot. the daughters are usually great looking like their mom but the sons are almost always a little bit feminine. ever noticed that? it’s like the dad’s DNA just got trampled on by his hot wife’s superior DNA.

It’s only a slight difference in ratio so it shouldn’t be visible. I never heard about quite that chromosome difference, but I have heard that upper class people (or was it beautiful people, IDK) tend to have more daughters. It was a small percentage difference. And poorer people tend to be more alpha (maybe) so it makes sense that alphas have more sons. I doubt many of us have personally met enough families to reach a large enough sample size though.

LOL, love this one CH! Can’t tell you how many times I heard that. He was always sick she said.

Saw a good looking women yesterday with a guy and it confused me a bit. He has baseball cap on backwards on a shaved head with hipster look. Signs of a beta as she put out her hand to grab his and led him to a restaurant at the plaza. Was he something for her to show off? Clearly did not have a good job or wealth.

My kid and I were getting our grub on while Mrs. Joe was out at a PTA meeting and I put a classic rock channel on for some music. The 11 year old (a good kid, super bright, tallest kid in the class and athletic) sees a Cars video and says, “that music is a little weird but I like it.” I told him it was pretty cool at the time, and said, “See that ugly guy there? After this, he married the hottest woman in the world.” The boy then asks, “is that why you told me that if I took guitar instead of band for music class, that I’d slay with the girls?” “Yup.” He just grinned and laughed.

I think he is getting it. He isn’t going to need the guitar but it won’t hurt.

But Ric didn’t do this… pay attention. And your own example implies she would have “married” you, key word there is married you, over marrying the other guy. Not – not married you and let you have girlfriends etc.

Also, notice that Ric is a Czech American, and Paulina is Czech. I do suspect that even in the USA where white Americans aren’t supposed to know their ethnic background, that white ethnicities tend to marry within their groups at a level significantly higher than random.

It’s been my observation that more masculine looking or acting fathers have more sons.

I’ve heard that sticking it in harder results in a boy. You’d think it would be the opposite since XY sperm are lighter and travel faster, but they’re also more easily destroyed on the way to the egg.

not really my generation but I did not know that was paulina in the drive video, til. So this guy yelled and screamed at a beautiful woman and she fell in love with him. They also have a pretty huge age gap. Needless to say this is not an ordinary circumstance most could try to take advantage of. My own theory about gender with some evidence: uglier faces are more detrimental to women than men.

in truth, the ones who are “butt hurt” is you and your followers, ch, who just cannot accept the futile nature of this existence. you’ll continue to leap and try to find meaning, try to find purpose, even though the void is right there. you cannot accept the ultimate red pill, ch, because you’re the one who is “butt hurt”

Those 2 brown boys are fags. Probably working as towel boys on Ric’s rented yacht or villa. I’ve actually been to St. Barts and that’s who works the area. Not many blacks there, and the inhabitants, mostly French, bragged about this to me bc it made their island better than the rest of the Caribean.

So Paulina like almost all women likes being friendly and cheeky with fags… That’s what those pics show.

Paulina is European (and probably Catholic) ;they think tanning is good for you. Going topless is no big deal for them. The Germans were the worlds first “hippies”; they had “nudist camps” before the term even existed.

[CH: here’s the bigger point: beauty is truth. i’d sooner fuck the reasonably pretty, slender rihanna than i would some white land whale. deny that reality, and your cause will lose a lot of support. accept it, and you can work toward a world where white men don’t have to make that choice.]

Bill, Rhianna(She Barbadian), as well as mulatto’s like Eric Holder and Colin Powell are the products of a not-so-subtle system of apartheid by light skinned blacks in the Caribbean against dark skinned blacks. None of them got to look that way by accident. It was all very deliberate over the past few centuries. Even in American you had a similar system eg ‘Paper Bag Test’. It’s just weird to me that American Blacks would follow these people considering that historically, these are the sorts of people who would rule over them. Some things never change do they?

Interestingly enough in the context of dealing with Rihanna there were lots of Irish sent to the then British ruled Americas as slaves. I haven’t read the following but here’s one part from the synopsis; “The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies. By the mid 1600s, the Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat. At that time, 70% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves.

Interesting. I think the “paper bag” concept is a pretty good illustration of the point I was trying to make. Genetic decay can be gradual, basically, and maybe not really manifest for a few generations…while the original beauty standard remains unchanged.

For some reason, I think a lot about what a nightmare future generations of women are going to be. On every level. I mean, even the few girls I know who marry young and have kids are married to stone cold stupid HS football player types.

The whole Irish slave thing – and I have some Irish in me, I think – makes it pretty damn clear how dishonest our enemies are.

Just try to bring it up. Blank stares. Jokes about “white trash”.

It’s much like the Rotterdam rape story – proof theres nothing more to say between sane people and the Leviathan.

If you’re a normal man, you’re fine with this situation (and conscious of it unless you’re playing politics to impress the rest of society).

If you’re a normal woman, you’re fine with this situation too (but usually only on an unconscious level).

It’s only feminists who seek to destroy this natural arrangement (because feminists hate nature, biology, “God”, and resent that they were ever born female). Women without the sexual Stockholm Syndrome are dangerous and may accuse you of rape and try to get you thrown in prison.

“Even more proof that he’s alpha. When the girl loves you, her body chemistry favors XY sperm because she want to have a child that is a replica of her man.

But when she’s ‘meh’ about you, the chemistry is biased toward XX sperm, just so she can get a girl, or a copy of herself.”

I’ve often wondered about this, myself. I always had a sneaking suspicion that guys who produced nothing but daughters were giant pussies. Growing up all the dudes I knew who only had brothers tended to be more stereotypically male (Played sports, roughhoused, were brash, etc.) – I never saw a family with only boy children being groomed to be giant manginas by a mangina father. Likewise, the fathers I knew who only had daughters to tended to be complete wimps. Even worse, now they’re not only brow-beaten by their wives, they’re also getting it from their daughters.

However, nature has a way of balancing out the genders – I heard that after millions of men died in WWII that suddenly more male babies than ever were being born, most likely to replace all those men who died. Maybe it’s all coincidental, but at any given point there’s usually a 50/50 split between the genders in the world to balance things out.

However, nature has a way of balancing out the genders – I heard that after millions of men died in WWII that suddenly more male babies than ever were being born, most likely to replace all those men who died.

I don’t think it has to do with balancing out the sexes, since all it does is skew the sex ratio for that new generation. I suspect that it’s because the men are getting hotter sex because a culling of men ensures the survivors get married to hotter women than they would during peacetime, while a large number of ugly women end up as old maids and never reproduce.

“I don’t think it has to do with balancing out the sexes, since all it does is skew the sex ratio for that new generation”
Overall population wise it balances out, but you are correct, in that it skews things for the next generation unfortunately. For the men left in Russia/Germany at the close of wwII it would have been great pickings. In more ancient times the warrior men would have not have had long lives compared to the farmers/serfs/tradesmen & civil servants who would have had more opportunity to procreate. Of course the warriors could easily knock up girls in their teens in those days,and also the as victors had the opportunity to pass on their dna through pillage & rape.

I read a study that included more than wwII & wwI that found after times of great trauma (war/famine/earthquake) more male babies are born and it seemed to be because of the influence of cortisol.

If you can extend this to modern day marriages, you could expect more male babies born where the woman is under more stress. I don’t know if you can extend that to being the equivalent of not being happy. There does seem to be more female babies born in relationships that i know where the woman has settled for the beta guy, which fits in with what some commenters said earlier, but based more on theory rather science. I have seen examples going both ways.

I also think with all boy families there is more masculinity in them & roughhousing not necessarily because of alpha father, though that’s definitely a factor but also very much due to sibling rivalry.

interesting theories. i have also seen the same thing. masculine men having more sons, etc.

also as far as nature balancing things out. i think the rise in multiple births is part of that. people are consciously deciding not to have children or to have very few. others are living lives that aren’t conducive to having kids. that’s not how it’s meant to be. at least mother nature doesn’t think so.

i think that’s for sure why there are more twins and triplets around than ever before. some of it is because of fertility drugs obviously and we can dispute how natural that is for days but older moms have always been more prone to having multiples even without drugs. it’s nature’s way of making up for lost time i think.

and i believe that multiples are definitely on the rise with younger women as well. even the ones who aren’t using fertility drugs. never used to see twins. it was highly unusual and a real novelty. now it seems quite common.

pretty remarkable how nature attempts to self correct like that when humans are behaving like morons.

Interesting theory on multiple births. Now that you mention it, I went to a small high school of only about 400 kids, and I recall there were about 5 sets of twins. But outside of high school I never really encountered any. I grew up in a SWPL/career woman wasteland, so if your theory is correct there’s a chance that these twins were born to career women in the late stages of their fertility, and their ovaries were like “Hurry it up!”

“The radiant beauty of 10s is so magnificent that these women can still look bangable 20-30 years after their prime nubility.”

I see that with Robin Wright. As “Claire Underwood”, I noticed that she was a woman who had once been beautiful but was now merely bangable. I couldn’t love a face like that, but I could love her for the night, once.

Recognized her as “Jenny” from “Forrest Gump”. Then, she was attractive.

Didn’t catch on till recently that she also played “Princess Buttercup” in “The Princess Bride”. That was nearly thirty years ago. She was beautiful in that movie. It’s been nearly thirty years and I’d still go there.

Robin Wright was never a 10. You have a low bar. Not trying to pick an argument but if you’re going to put that out you’re going to get dissenters…

She is a very good actress, though lib wacked and formerly married to super fag Sean.

Also, here’s a little story, she and her kids got held up at gun point by some nigs in Pacific Palisades maybe 10 years ago or so. The kids were really young. She was in the process of unloading groceries from her car. But she’s still a lib and I bet loves hands up don’t shoot.

Another bit of Hollywood gossip, jim ‘women beater’ brown beat super fag sean’s ass at a party around 2000-2001.

Of course she’s a 10, or she was a 10 at her peak and now she’s a respectable 8. She looks great and her post 2 kids and no implant boobs are fine. Paulina also has an interesting biography -Communists made her childhood hell.

[CH: i’d like to hear more about that last part. which lives *didn’t* commies make hell? stalin’s.]

I agree. I don’t think she’s a stone cold ten. Nine, yes; but 10, no. Tits are too small. Face is not strikingly exceptional — sort of relatively ordinary features, albeit beautiful, graceful, and feminine. To get a 10, in my book, there has to be some sort of novel exceptionalness to the facial beauty.

CH: I’m not being contrarian about your thesis that ugly duckling Ocasek landed a major hottie with alpha game. Just observing that she’s a 9, not a 10, in my book.

Actually, on second thought, maybe my standards for a 10 are unrealistic. After all, a 10 should be fairly common — one out of 10 women is not exactly a rare occurrence.

It may be that what i am considering a 10 is not really a ten (i.e., 10% of the females), but is instead in the top percent of the female population – one in a hundred. Call it “A Ten among Tens”.

I don’t disagree with you on your other assertions in this post, but “I know the ¡SCIENCE! for my supposition about to follow is lacking, but I’ll assert it anyway” is exactly what feminists, socialists, and anti-White racists say. These are the types of things that you say that make you no better than them.

[CH: the difference between me and them is that i admit my assertion is a personal observation not yet subjected to rigorous double blind experimentation. oh, and they don’t have a sense of humor. which is something you have in common with them.]

[CH: these self-report sex surveys are getting more suspect by the day. i wouldn’t read too much into them. just learn game, maximize your strengths, minimize your weaknesses, and approach girls for a happier, more fulfilling life.]

They’re apparently different; the second one in particular was actually more interesting as it appears to show that looks on men are irrelevant (unless you’re a sodomite).

[CH: oh, no doubt that looks matter less to women than they do to men, so there’s some truth buried in sex-oriented survey questions like this one. but there’s extreme social pressure for survey respondents, especially female respondents, to give the PC answer, i.e., “love me some chubby boy next door!”. it’s the backdoor way that leftoid equalists try to undermine the reality of innate biological sex preferences.]

as CH said, looks do matter less to women. that’s obvious but i also think a lot more women say they want a chubby guys nowadays because they themselves are probably fat and dumpy.

they know a hot, fit, man in his prime would be hard or more likely impossible for them to get or keep. they want the guy with low self esteem and fewer options so they can walk all over him and let themselves go without any risk of losing him.

oh yeah, Stephanie Seymour. Reminds me she was already dating Axl when they did their November Rain video together. Guess it didn’t take because it was nauseating beta marraige, death shit. but she was hawt

So the lesson Ocasek is trying to teach us is, the game required to land a hot girl comes from the skills you learn as a performer.

In my case, the best thing I ever did was acting classes. Amazing what it did for my confidence. I’d always been good with words. Acting taught me how to talk. I learned to read people and calibrate my approach. Talk this way with him and another way with her.

(Acting classes attract battalions of salesmen, lawyers, investment bankers who need to be good at presenting and projecting and closing the deal, people with zero show biz ambitions.)

Improv lessons, especially, where you’re given a situation and told to wing it, make you comfortable talking to anyone about fuck-anything. (Improv teaches never to do one-liners that kill the convo. More like tennis where you want your opponent to hit the ball back.) First few times I did improv, I thought I was going to shit in my pants. Then the first time my audience (the other students) smiled and laughed, I got it when performers talk about the high they from being in front of an audience.

And acting forces you out of your head. You can’t perform if you’re locked up in your head. Which lots of the smart, high-functioning autistics here at CH probably are.

I’m not autistic, but quieter, more reserved than is good. Self-conscious as hell. Always the kid who felt I didn’t belong. Who worried too much about making the right impression.

I’m not a great actor. Not even close. But other than getting my white trash ass into the ivy league, acting class is the one thing I can point to as having changed my life.

When I was 20, I sat next to a girl on a flight out of Chicago. She’d just had her pics taken for a playboy centerfold. Showed me some nudie pics — I didn’t recognize her. Amazing what the right lighting and make-up and a good photographer can do to improve a girl’s looks. I gamed the hell out of her and when we landed at LAX, she asked if it was OK if she gave me her number. Called her up a few days later and took her out but didn’t get into her pants.

Without acting classes, I wouldn’t have had the balls to chat her up. I was still skinny. Bad skin and crappy haircut. Clothes from K-mart. but all the confidence in the world.

And if Paulina Porizkova sat next to me on a plane, by the time we landed, she’d have forgotten all about Ric Ocasek. .

There was no “game” needed. See my comment below. He was 6’6″ and one of the biggest rock stars on the planet at the time. She was an upstart model either he or his manager hired for a video. All he had to do was show up.

I too have imbibed in acting classes. Even got to sit in and watch a master class. Ann Archer, Jeffrey Tambor, and other well knowns and not so’s were there. It was a scene study class and to watch a broadway actor who’s worked for Coppola, and with Hackman, Pacino, Voight, and on and on, get criticized was incredible.

In the non-celeb class I saw a Vogue model pour her heart out about her eating disorder and etc. I had a male model, buff farmboy, who was actually really unassuming and a nice guy (heard pam Anderson called him to bang, and I know another weasel a-hole who did f her), really compliment me on a scene I performed and admit to me how insecure he was. His modeling agency was paying for class and every girl in attendance would have been his situational whore at the drop of a feather… Point is, it showed me how flawed and human everyone is.

Paulina Porizkova is quite intelligent too. She’s written some books and I read an article by her on the effects of Lexapro that was well-reasoned and descriptive. I also saw a photo of her taken last year and she’s aging quite well.

Decaprio is a pussy. Believe me, I’ve met him. Then almost physically ran into him another time. His body language was intimidated, I wan’ts trying to be so, I just didn’t see him and he was in the way… He is a very good actor, so can be believable tough, but he’s not. As far as his pussy posse goes, he had bouncers and heroin dealers doing his boxing out and enforcing for him, or at least from what I heard.

This post is naive at best; deceitful at worse. At the time Ric met Paulinia, he was one of the biggest rock stars on the planet. He was the leader of his group. He was also 6’6″ tall (still is from all accounts). She was a newbie model starring in a video by his band.

There was not a lot of “game” involved in this meeting. Most rock stars don’t need game. Even the ugliest ones. Pick a better example or stick with the racial material, which is better than the game info at this point.

It’s nice to hear a story about a couple working out for a change. And they do look quite happy in all their pics together, their body language says genuine affection and a fun lighthearted dynamic. I found a pic of their sons, for the curious…interesting blend of dad and mom…

Bloom, I thought she never had children of her own… I thought they were his from before they got married (not sure)? One quote from her that I’ll never forget was her talking about how in your 20’s, you’re still insecure and don’t know who you really are yet… she said that if she had had the self confidence in her 20’s (when she still had her beauty or the major bulk of it) that she gained when she was older, she would’ve ruled the world lol. It really made me think, why the hell are beautiful women so self conscious? And why waste your 20’s in self consciousness. Even Margot Robbie recently said that she doesn’t think she’s that beautiful (which obviously… is insane). But all women are like that.

Anyway, I like how she said that a lot of models are actually stupid LOL. She’s really creative and smart so… guess the other ones couldn’t keep up.

I think that Margot Robbie knows that she is really beautiful…for now. There’s a difference between current beauty and longevity. There are beautiful women who are on the fast track to the wall and there are also ugly women who for some reason won’t hit the wall for a very long time…these are the women who will putter around at a low level but never really die off.

Margot Robbie is one of those women who is a 10 now, but she knows that she will age badly. She’s self conscious because she knows that 7’s who will age well are actual competition.

Your comment doesn’t really make sense… how can “ugly women” as you say, not hit the wall, and then somehow become more beautiful than other women who have? “Ugly women” probably have a wall of their own – by their own doing (either not fit or not presenting themselves well). That… is a self-built wall at any age.

Paulina felt self conscious because honestly, most women just do I think. She didn’t feel beautiful growing up – so it stayed with her maybe, not sure. I’ve seen girls peak at only 15 (like seriously be a 9 or 10 at only age 15), and go down hill from there, now they are maybe a 5 or 6 just due to losing all their looks or charisma. Granted they were the mean ones in high school…. As Paulina says, success is the best revenge.

Yep, those are her kiddos. A pic of her preggo w belly and all actually popped up in the search.

True re girls in their 20s feeling insecure, I know I did. Silly, so silly. Youth is wasted on the young.

She truly is one of the most beautiful women of our time, hands down. My brother was obsessed w her back in the day. (We are Czech heritage too, maybe there was something to that.)

Random paulina trivia: She had horrible teeth apparently, which is why her earlier photos are all with her mouth shut, not smiling. After her career took off she had them fixed but it altered her jaw shape slightly, less square. Her bookings went down after that. Not that she’s not still georgeous!

Inspiring that she’s aged well, is happy, 25 years married, adores her family. I like it. Good stuff!

If a woman is a 3 at age 20, but stays that way for a long time, then she’s ugly but not at wall-stage. There’s a difference between your current beauty and your projected future beauty. Current beauty is immediately obvious to most men; no one can entirely predict future beauty but looking at the woman’s mother and grandmother is highly useful.

You can be a 10 and last a long time Sophia Loren, or you can be a 10 and age like Margot Robbie/Britney Spears/Brigitte Bardot/Lindsey Lohan. You can be a 3 and hit the wall at age 30, but you can also be a 3 and stay that way until you are 50-60.

I have a friend, about to turn 60, who is definitely, eye-poppingly fashion-model beautiful. In fact when she lived in LA she got serious offers toward a modeling career, but ultimately decided her Christian values and her desire to actually spend time as a mom to her kids won out.

Anyway as part of an ongoing discussion she wrote:

“I am owning my beauty. I have been afraid of it for most of my life. It is such a mixed blessing. People hate you for it through jealousy etc. and people love you for it and not always with good motives. I hid it for so many years. Not allowing myself the freedom to admit that I was beautiful. ”

I like to compare my wife to Paulina. She was a 7-8 when we married hit 9 at her peak(31) and now is back at strong 7. At the peak her face and tits were better than Paulina’s while her butt was worse.

Speaking of my ancient comments, I chuckled at this one I made here in ’09 and just fund it now after having completely forgotten about it:

what is it about big boobies and jogging?

To wit, I was at the gym today, and opposite of me a very good looking girl, with c-cups, was running on the treadmill. She was shapely and young, but her sterno-subclavicular antecostal lipiduous processes, though restrained by a sportsbra, were bouncing in a W-shaped way, nearly giving her black eyes.

So my question is, don’t over-endowed girls, even as lovely as that one was, HURT when running? Don’t their boobies pull and stretch, and bruise her liver with one smack after another? Won’t her lactic glands start herniating through the nipples, forming these odd-looking golfball sized mini-baloons at the tips of her boobies?

I mean, I have no way of knowing this first hand, as my solid pecs kinda stay in place when I run.

[CH: the thoughts that go through a man’s head when breaaaassteessses are making a W.]

silly boy.
Paulina was the cover model 3 times for the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue. She was not some aspiring model, she’d been modeling professionally in Paris since age 14. She is also one of the, if not the, most intelligent models out there, some estimated her IQ as over 135. Which for a woman, and a very attractive woman, is pretty high.

I didn’t even see this post until now as I was busy with work and life.

Two hot women always come to mind when I hear the Cars on the radio.
Paulina of course.
and the girl from Fast Times at Ridgemont High, in the swimming pool scene. Phoebe Cates taking off her swimsuit top to the Cars “Moving in Stereo”.

that was to all the pointy elbow haters above.
And as much as I like them, the Cars were never an “A” list rock band.

They were good, they were famous, but they weren’t top of the top.

The game technique I was thinking of is the speed seduction technique where you rapidly take the girl through a whirlwind of emotions, which I guess is like push-pull.

And another thing for the haters, standards of beauty have subtly changed since the 1980’s. Her boobs were fine enough back before Pamela Anderson and Anne Nicole Smith and others thrust their mammaries into our faces.

Off topic, I appreciated out how pared down and melodic and catchy the Cars tunes could be. The underrecognized bass player (don’t recall his name right off), wss, along with Ocasek, a major force in the success of the Cars. And the lead guitar player could shred! (see live YouTube vids).

So… its scientifically proven that Y sperm swim faster than X’s – they know this well. So if a couple is having sex close to, or around the woman’s ovulation, they are more than likely going to have a son.

He said in the alpha case, they’re probably having sex almost daily (haha yep), and therefore highly likely to have males just because of the proximity of the sex and the Y sperm getting to the egg before any X’s.

u don’t know 5’11 models. they are secretly desperate bc 99% of men are too short. Ric looks 6’3″ and his look is distinct and striking, so I don’t know wtf you are talking about by calling him ugly. He will be the most distinct man in any room, and that’s what the ladies care about. So long as you are tall and striking looking, you can get anything you want and looks are no issue even if you are not a pretty boy. They are allergic to pretty boys bc they think that they’ll cheat, while a less pretty bf will not, hence the oddball relationship. I’ve had girls like paulina throw hints at me (not that hot but in the ballpark) and have been shocked by their interest, but the above explains it.

Why the hate in this thread? Does it matter how Rick Ocasek snagged Paulina? My opinion is that Ocasek has solid inner game and that made him irresistible to her, despite being un-attractive, un-athletic, with a 16 year age difference between them and the baggage of four kids from two ex-wives. Mission accomplished.

Rock star or not, the guy out kicked his coverage. Fame and fortune might have got him a first date, but he was able to nurture that initial attraction by Paulina into a happy LTR which produced male offspring.

Despite his obvious limitations, he demonstrated supreme alpha-ness and dominated her completely. He married her at the peak of her SMV (24) when he was 40.

This is a lesson in what’s possible by applying principles of game to attract a genuine 9/10 who gives herself to you completely as she realizes you are the focal point of her existence which sparks the flame of desire leading her to assume her rightful place at your side as devoted wife and mother of your children.

Most of the special operations people I have came across in the military all have daughters for some reason. It is actually a popular boredom-induced debate topic among the men as to what causes this phenomenon. And I would argue that the spec ops type is quite masculine.

Some say that it’s the high test and its natures way of balancing things out. Which is also why players/heartbreakers all seem to have daughters (karma?)

But yeah me and a few buddies of mine knows some operators from either the Ranger Battalion and Special Forces groups who all have daughters for some reason. One dude I know from BOLC who was a batt boy has 4 daughters from 3 different women.

Great post CH. I’m saving this. Gave me such a boost this morning and an adrenaline rush.
I am a man women fall in love with more so than one nighters if that makes sense. I prefer it that way.

Also slightly refreshing to see women portrayed as flawed humans like we all are and not cold hearted robots who fuck men over.
The writing on female nature are 100% accurate from my experience. I have used this information and have seen the predictable results.

Yet I have also known some gorgeous women who don’t like the market, don’t like the attention they get and are just happy settling down with a guy who will love them and cherish them.
I also know some gorgeous young women who have problems like we all do – shy, panic attacks, loneliness.

In fact one of my proudest moments was gaming a woman like the above. She was 25 and gorgeous , I was 38. She was very shy, socially awkward, her career was going nowhere and she dressed down.
I gamed her for six months – not to sleep with her (timing was not good for me) but to simply raise her esteem. The results were instant – her wardrobe changed, she became more social, she got a huge pay increase in work and high valued men are now checking her out.
I was surprised how much satisfaction I gained form this Game save lives.

The article features a picture of David and Victoria Beckham with their brood of three sons in tow. They also point out that historically and today, men outnumber women dramatically in Britain’s royal family lineage.

It’s been observed in some species of birds (forgot which one), that the female will poke its beak trough the egg shell and kill the offspring if it’s the “wrong” sex. Males are biologically (and evolutionarily) more expensive and therefore more affordable by mothers with a higher status. It is, then, the female bird with the lower status who will kill a male offspring. How she knows the sex of the unborn bird is a mystery. Could the high prevalence of miscarriages among our species serve a similar purpose? Got the wrong XY chromosome from your guy and can’t afford it? Miscarry!

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