Hey guys, I finally got in to a lower bracket, $139, on the geeks by checking the site every couple hours or so. I'm gonna be shipping mine to Toronto, Canada so if anyone else from Toronto or nearby wants to get in at a better price bracket and wants to split shipping costs, PM me and we can figure out the details!

Also just got a pair of the KEF M200's today that I bought from the for sale forum and man do these things sound good! Really good initial impressions and I'm enjoying them too much now to directly compare with my UE900s but hope to do so at some point.

Hey guys, I finally got in to a lower bracket, $139, on the geeks by checking the site every couple hours or so. I'm gonna be shipping mine to Toronto, Canada so if anyone else from Toronto or nearby wants to get in at a better price bracket and wants to split shipping costs, PM me and we can figure out the details!

Also just got a pair of the KEF M200's today that I bought from the for sale forum and man do these things sound good! Really good initial impressions and I'm enjoying them too much now to directly compare with my UE900s but hope to do so at some point.

Sheesh, for that $139 price... I wish I felt I needed one! And congrats on the M200 (not envious at all!).

The more earphones I compare to the Zero Audio Carbo Tenore (with MEElectronics M6 double flange tips) the more I realize how incredible they are. They hit hard, they go deep, they're airy, detailed, clear, engaging, and draw you in. My only beef with them was that they sometimes could use a little more bass. I used the EQ on my computer to VERY SLIGHTLY bump up 31hz, 62hz, and 16k (for a little more sizzle) and WOW, they're amazing.

Nothing I've compared to them can compare, not the Basso, A161P, S500, nothing in my sig.

If you haven't tried the Carbo Tenore (even better with MEElectronics M6 double flange tips), give them a try!

I would like to try something better (if it exists), so if you have suggestions, let me know. I don't think I'll find them in any IEMs < $75. I've tried many and have come up unsuccessful so far.

Ok, update on my current foolishness. 1)went for the mid level geek, may be better for my senn 650's, the most powerful seems like overkill. 2)bit on the Philips S2, ordered 3)silly impulse buy-Martin Logan Mikros 90, some love them, some hate them, on sale at Newegg for $99 (list $299). Figured at that price worth taking a chance. 4)Django Reinhardt is GOD

Ok, update on my current foolishness. 1)went for the mid level geek, may be better for my senn 650's, the most powerful seems like overkill. 2)bit on the Philips S2, ordered 3)silly impulse buy-Martin Logan Mikros 90, some love them, some hate them, on sale at Newegg for $99 (list $299). Figured at that price worth taking a chance. 4)Django Reinhardt is GOD

I'm always happy to see someone who is more out of control than I am... gives me a false sense of control lol! You probably aren't going wrong with the geek. Definitely not going wrong with the S2's. Can't say about the Miros 90, but I bet the Django Reingardt is GOD like you say! Good "out of control" work there Doc!

Awesome that you are enjoying them so much! Curious: why do you like them more than the Basso's?

I guess I'm a female vocals guy. Vocals are more airy and female vocals sexier (I get more chills), bass is faster and punchier, they're clearer and more detailed, and they're tuned brighter than the Basso. I guess I do like my bass though and therefore very slightly very slightly increase it. With the Basso, I find the bass a little overpowering so I do the opposite and lower the bass, which makes them less dark. I also raise the treble more.

For the sound that I like I definitely have to make more EQ adjustments to the Basso than the Tenore. I'll have to do some more listening with both EQ'd to see if I still like the Tenore more.

The Tenore does have a decent amount of bass, unllike the A161P which I had to increase the bass a significant amount. To my ears, the Tenore is much better than the A161P.

Been listening to these for the past few hours. Just like KEF, Onkyo came in aggressive with their first products into the headphone/iem world. Both sound very good and the price to performance ratio is very good.

The earphones are big but not M200 level. More like the CKS1000. Fit is great, even with the thick cable hanging down right next to the earlobe. Tips are some of the cheapest tips I've ever come a crossed. Thankfully, tip rolling is easy with these. I put the Auvio's on and no problems. Comes with a larger cloth covered hard case. One of the better cases I've seen.

Sound is quite balanced. Bass is pretty big but not too overpowering. There's a little bit of bloom but I'm sure it'll settle. Thankfully the midrange is smooth and forward. Very good midrange. Treble is also nice and smooth. There's no sign of sibilance, peakiness whatsoever. The sound is deep and wide. Another big chamber type of sound. Less coloration than the CKS1000's. I can tell these will need some burn in though. Overall, highly recommended and one of the better sounding earphones to date.

Headphones come out sounding excellent with no burn in. Bass seems punchier and tighter than the earphones. Midrange sounds close to the earphones with slight differences. Treble is smoother than the earphones. For having non fatiguing treble, both products give good sparkle but the headphones a little more so. The dual chamber gives a deep sound which draws you into the music. I listened to the headphones for a couple of hours and didn't realize it. Quite addicting. Comfort is quite good for having kind of thick pads. Clamping force is about perfect and the cups rotate to get a better fit. Very well designed on ear. Build quality is very good on both but I'm more impressed with the headphones.

The cables are pretty to look at and is very nice. It has a rubbery texture and microfonics are minimal.