Both are very meh. The hunter isn't better than a prism. Most prism shots wound on a 2+ anyways and the small blast instant kills most things, so it seems like a wash. The specter... I'm just disappointed. It seems like most other races get better stuff. The hornets are still nasty.

I'll probably end up buying the spectres just to have the models. That will be after IA11 is published, however, in hope they alter the rules with one or two less sales coming from me. 12" guns, really? Small T3 squad with 4+sv foot slogging for 35pts, really? Not interested in the warp hunter in both rules and model. For 177pts you get one TL S10, Lance, shot at AP2 on 4x T3 4+sv models. Not counting their 12" one shot guns. Wraithguard are considered weak, imo, and they have the better guns but with T6 and 3+sv for the same price.

Haha, I still say hornets would be on par with normal 5th edition stuff if it were able to fire both weapons and/or BS4 for the same price.