A really sad moment from Flashpoint. In this reality, Bruce died instead of his parents. Martha goes insane and becomes their universes Joker, and Thomas becomes their Batman. He uses guns, and isn't afraid to Kill.

They learn about the main universe, and Martha, in a rare moment of clarity, comes back to her normal senses.. Only to hear her Son became Batman.

The Flash ran into another dimension (Well, a messed up current dimension, thanks to Reverse Flash mucking up the current events), and told Thomas, thinking HE was Bruce. When he found out otherwise, he explained as best he could.

Thomas even wrote Bruce a note, which the Flash took back to the fixed dimension. Batman cried.

There's only one thing I know about life.
I know some things happen by chance,
And some things happen because we make them happen.

Barry Allen was a man haunted by his past.
But when he became the Flash, he left the ghosts behind.
He found love. A Family. Friends.
Barry thought yesterday was behind him...
...But somebody wouldn't let him escape it.

When Barry came to me for help, I turned him away.
I'm not the hero of this story.
I'm a man who's been corrupted by his own unbearable pain,

I'm a man who has too much blood on his hands to be called good.
I'm a man who had nothing to live for...
...until the day I met the Flash.

The first time I met Barry Allen, I nearly killed him.
Like I said, I'm not the hero of this story.

Because they both understand what being Batman entails. The sort of tragedy that would push a man so far. It's hard to describe, but being Batman isn't about Adam Westing. It's distilled pain, and emotional suffering.

Being Batman is like being handed a deck full of cards, only to find out every card's a joker. Not something you'd wish upon you're son.

No, you were making a point. The effect of that kickass line is the tits, man. If there's ever another A+ Batman movie, that digestive end product needs to be the intense bodyloveing tagline, even if Joker isn't involved.

In an alternate reality, when ten-year-old Bruce Wayne and his parents are mugged outside a theater one night, Bruce is the one shot dead instead of his parents. This prompts his father to become the Batman and causes his mother to go crazy and become the Joker. Here, Thomas Wayne discovers (thanks to some cross-dimensional thing that happened in Flashpoint) that in another reality, Bruce is still alive. He tells Martha that Bruce 'follows in his fathers footsteps', and she assumes he means Bruce is a doctor like Thomas was. She realizes that Bruce grew up to become his reality's Batman.

The thing that confuses me... i get why bruce dying instead would cause his dad to become batman, and even explain why his mom becomes a joker... but... what does it have to do with causing the.... you know... ACTUAL JOKER? Does this reality just have two?

As far as I know, Bruce's death in this reality had no impact on the man who became the Joker in the regular continuity (in the normal continuity, Batman was the one who knocked him into a vat of chemicals causing his deformities/insanity. Since Bruce/Batman didn't live to see that event, it makes sense that the man who would have become the Joker never experienced the accident that would have transformed him); so, he never became the Joker in the reality where Bruce died. Instead, his mom became the Joker and as far as I know she's the only one in that reality. I know a few different people already tried to answer this, but did that help anyway? If it didn't feel free to keep asking

The whole ideology behind batman is the justice in humans, and joker being the psycho that all humans posses, Joker (normal that you know) tries to show the world that all humans are like him, but refuse to show it. While batman is justice. I hate batman in general stupid ass intense bodyloveing character, over hyped, "reality" he's the weakest, but i did enjoy this alternate universe.

In DC 1, Bruce knocks the joker into a vat of chemicals turning a pretty digestive end productty criminal into the joker. Here we dont have Bruce so its either safe to assume DC1 Joker got away and never fell into the chemicals....or DC2 Thomas straight up shot the intense bodyloveer

Can someone explain what's going on in this? I know that this is an alternate reality batman where bruce died and his mom and dad became the batman and the joker, but I don't understand the context of this.

Its from the Flashpoint story line wherein Bruce gets shot instead of his parents and his dad becomes Batman and his mom becomes the Joker. However this version of Batman has no problem using guns and killing people. The Flash somehow remembers the original reality and finds Thomas Wayne and tells him that in his timeline Bruce lives but both Thomas and Martha get shot and that Bruce becomes Batman but doesn't kill people. Thomas is OK with the Flash going back in time to make it so the original events happen. I haven't read the comics nor seen the movie, but I assume in this scene Thomas and Martha are talking about the alternate timeline (the original) and that Thomas is telling his wife what is "supposed" to happen.

I'm guessing that this is something like bruces father managed to find out about the reality in which his son lived and they died and informed his wife that though he lived he went down the same path they're on now.

This is very interesting:
Since here SHE is the Joker, she knows exactly what their son goes trough night after night, and why he keeps going. I just hope she know that Bruce is a much successful and merciful Batman than Thomas

from what i watched in operation flashpoint. the flash alters history, the end result is that Bruce dies his father becomes an alcoholic version of batman who owns casinos. his mother goes crazy and becomes a female version of the joker.