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All Things Green Bay PackersSun, 10 Dec 2017 20:48:28 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: awhayeshttps://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/silverstein-doubtful-on-harris-coming-back/#comment-3875
Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:19:19 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-3875Good thoughts Dave K – my guess is that it will be a WR (if Jones and/or Martin are expected to miss a few more weeks) or Joey Porter. Porter was good in the preseason and could be a special teams contributor.

I also like Haynos. He could be good someday. My guess though is that they’ll stick with the 3 TEs they have now, or possibly even deactivate Finley in order to keep active another WR or CB. I was a bit disappointed on Sunday night that the Pack didn’t use more 2 tight end sets for passes to Humphrey or Lee.

As for who they might add, I hope its the tight end Haynos. The kid is Jason Witten-like and I think would bring a lot more to the current team than Finley.
Would they have 4 tight ends on the roster? Well, with Hall hurting, they could always use one of them at fullback…

As for the defensive backfield, I think they’ll stick with what they have. Pat Lee has yet to see the field from scrimmage much and I think he’ll surprise.

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Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:53:19 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-3872joshywoshy – great post! Agree with all of it. Looking at the schedule it doesn’t appear to me that the Packers face a real talented WR group until Indy comes to town in four weeks. Woodson probably shuts down the #1 WR for Tampa, Atlanta, and Seattle fairly well. I doubt Williams has much trouble with their #2 WR’s especially with some safety help. So, he has three weeks to really step up against some decent matchups and a good test against Indy in four weeks. Then they have the bye and maybe Harris (wishful thinking) is back by then?

Who do we add to the roster if Harris is done for the year? Joe Porter from the practice squad?

Your statement: Tramon Williams has demonstrated no ability to cover one-on-one. My response: you have zero clue what you are talking about.

How on EARTH is that insulting or name-calling in any way? If anything,
I have made it abundantly clear over the last year how much I value your past service to our country, never once having stooped to personal attacks, no matter how much I may disagree with your misguided views on the Green and Gold.

As for the matter at hand: Did you even read Andy’s post? Williams covered T.O. several times on Sunday night, and covered him well. What more do you want from the kid? He’s young and will make mistakes, no doubt. But to state that he has shown nothing in man-to-man is absurd.

I’m a moron? Fine. A pompous ass? I’ve been called worse by better. (Starting with my wife 😉 ) My tone is aggressive? Guilty as charged, when it comes to ridiculous fan-speak.

I value your opinion, Ron, even though I may not agree with it a hundred percent of the time. But don’t mistake my tone for a personal attack. Life is too short.

]]>By: joshywoshybigfatposhyhttps://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/silverstein-doubtful-on-harris-coming-back/#comment-3867
Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:28:25 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-3867ron, i hope you do not seriously intend to stop participating in what is a quality site, in part due to your reflections. i do think aaron is a bit … assertive sometimes, and perhaps when compared with the hayes’ ultra-fair tone in disagreement, it can be a bit counter-productive if taken personally — but don’t take it personally.

part of what separates this site from others is the calm temper of its discussion, but challenges that address one’s stance (and not one’s mother, or choice of favorite color – after all, there are no vikings fans here) are best met with empirical evidence, or perhaps a wise and collected nothingness. that is, unless you have a really quality stab at someone’s mother, in which case you should get it out there so the rest of us are well-informed.

i’ve reacted passionately to things like suggesting that culpepper would be a worthwhile pursuit, and i think it is wise to generally avoid citing things like andy’s unfortunate crack use (perhaps why he must play zone defense with only one child – but i try not to judge, having neither a destructive drug habit, nor children) in such reactions. but if these things come up – i think a thick-skinned response is just as important as a fair tone when trying to avoid the downward spiral that plagues so many blog comment boards.

so. enough diplomacy. i think this is certainly a tough situation to judge. cb’s seem to me to be about as predictable as an electron on crystal meth, at least until you’ve given them a season or two to show their trends (ahmad carroll). we’ve been fortunate enough to aquire two very quality cb’s via free agency after they proved their worth. one who was sitting behind two of the best in philly, and one who was stuck in a world run by al davis. both had immense talent, and a strong desire to prove themselves in a new venue.

now we must home-grow, and that’s a very risky endeavor. i agree with some who say that this might be a blessing in disguise, as harris would likely not have been ok with becoming a nickel or safety to stay in as a mentor (like the scenario i see driver being a part of as he ages) – i think he’s too competitive. of course, to call a ruptured spleen a blessing feels a bit heartless, and i have nothing against harris. he’s been such an important part of this defense, and even if williams steps it up, this d needs harris’ intensity now more than ever. as much as his ‘lost step’ would continue to cost the pack, harris nearly always had the fire and focus to bounce back with a spectacular tackle or batted ball. i sincerely hope he recovers well, but i think it may be too serious to mount a miraculous return.

to Al! (glass raised).

]]>By: Ron La Cannehttps://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/silverstein-doubtful-on-harris-coming-back/#comment-3866
Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:28:05 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-3866I really liked participating with this site’s discussions. I find you pathetic Aaron. I guess I’ll just have to find a place that one can comment without some self anointed Wonder Boy demanding his view be the only view.

Clueless is not name calling? I respond, I don’t start. You are a pompus ass Aaron.

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Wed, 24 Sep 2008 01:09:12 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-3865Name calling? Really?
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Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:51:29 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-3862Zero Clue Aaron? I’d check your own mirror if you want the ultimate example of cluelessness. Moron!
]]>By: Roll On Tramon Williams | Cheesehead TVhttps://packergeeks.wordpress.com/2008/09/23/silverstein-doubtful-on-harris-coming-back/#comment-3860
Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:17:06 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-3860[…] Good thoughts from Andy over at PackerGeeks regarding Tramon Williams stepping into Al Harris’ spot as the starting corner opposite Charles Woodson. …it was interesting during the Cowboy game to see Tramon matched up on the much bigger TO (this happened 3 times by my count when another WR went in motion and Woodson dropped TO to cover that other WR). Tramon’s tight coverage on TO each time forced Romo out of his first read. And, as Kurt Shottenheimer notes, outside of the big play against Miles Austin, Tramon had a solid game. […]
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Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:16:47 +0000http://packergeeks.wordpress.com/?p=1811#comment-3859RayMidge – Giants analogy a good one. This sort of reminds me of when Favre first retired earlier this year and for the first time, many of us took the occasion to really think harder for the first time about what Rodgers might be like as a pro. While Harris brought certain qualities that will be very difficult to replace, it’s entirely possible we’ll learn in a hurry that Williams and/or Blackmon being on the field more may give us other advantages that Harris couldn’t bring (speed, overall interception ability, running after a pick, etc).
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