Is it possible that the state or some other public agency paid the child support and billed him for it, bills which he ignored? Or does he owe back unpaid child support? If I don't pay a credit card bill on an account that has been closed for 23 years, my liability it does not go to zero. I still owe the money.

Maybe if wasn't a deadbeat, I said maybe, maybe his child would still be alive.

The friend of the court is seldom a friend of the people. It was their screw up that allowed me to spend a day in jail for non payment of support while they figured out that I didn't have kids. A few years back I was looking at the website for the Jackson county friend of the court and they proudly declared that they collected fines and payments in excess of 100%.

I don't know why they call it "Friend of the Court", they should be known as the Court Jesters.

My plant's safety manager was forced to pay child support for his 19 year old daughter who had already been in the Navy for a year and a half.......You can't argue with the ignorance that goes on in that court system.

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posted on 02/16/2013 5:45:07 PM PST
by Hot Tabasco
(Jab her with a harpoon or just throw her from the train......)

But after 25 years? Looks like someone would have told him about the death of the child. Suspect the mother did not want to reduce her income and the courts said, “he is out of state” so we will make it as difficult as possible.

I honestly have no knowledge of the details of this, but I am not surprised about “bureaucratic efficiency” in Detroit. /sarcasm

I never defended the father. But if you read the article even “the friend of the court” cannot understand why he still has a balance 23 years after the childs death (they had been garnishing his wages).

Also note the variance of the audit. Each time they were reduced and each time they were worlds appart.

I don’t know if its still a problem but here in Jackson, they used to have a problem of guys losing their jobs because of court ordered community service. You had to do the service when they said so and they didn’t concern themselves with your job.

They had guys getting all tied up in that mess and they simply couldn’t get ahead but it was free labor for the county.

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posted on 02/16/2013 6:35:22 PM PST
by cripplecreek
(REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)

These child support agencies can “attribute” all sorts of earnigns to a guy who does not show up. The mother can say well he worked construction once upon a time and earned $30/hour so gross income is based on that. The support is set. The guy is unaware he can ask for a “review” of support amount due to his un or underemployment. Agencies fight lowering due to their 2% processing charge on every dime that goes through them.

They also can make Dad pay birth expenses if Mom was on benefits. In this case, probably make him pay the funeral bill.

“But after 25 years? Looks like someone would have told him about the death of the child. Suspect the mother did not want to reduce her income and the courts said, he is out of state so we will make it as difficult as possible.”

In most cases the child support isn’t going to the mother, but rather to the state because the mother is on welfare/ADC.

The state has no reason to agree to shut off the cash flow when the child is 18, or dead as in this case.

Well, it can happen but I see that only after we go full bore hyperinflation until money has no meaning because we are so broke. The school of hard knocks seems to be the only way people as a whole learn or wake up from their trance when the culture has descended down into complete depravity.

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posted on 02/17/2013 6:36:20 PM PST
by DarkWaters
("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)

Ignorance surrounds its cradle: then its actions are determined by their first consequences, the only ones which, in its first stage, it can see.

It is only in the long run that it learns to take account of the others.

It has to learn this lesson from two very different masters—experience and foresight.

Experience teaches effectually, but brutally. It makes us acquainted with all the effects of an action, by causing us to feel them; and we cannot fail to finish by knowing that fire burns, if we have burned ourselves.

For this rough teacher, I should like, if possible, to substitute a more gentle one.

I mean Foresight. For this purpose I shall examine the consequences of certain economical phenomena, by placing in opposition to each other those which are seen, and those which are not seen.”

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