Did you ever ask the -- about his chances for halfway house. The old you are asked him about would tell us about that conversation you have with them well -- -- when asked him about it first I asked him about visitation. And you know did he give visits you know and -- winning its suit because as he suit bear his wife was improves. -- -- -- -- My and they told it you -- kilts who wired and he -- Their view that was true real estate could rule gets used to establish Signet talk orchard saucer what did you do -- the -- -- There are basically about what was all that conversation that I where we're room and -- who was upset about where house -- That they wouldn't give him sort of -- register there was some people do Mormon -- to be out to be was afraid overlook something bad makes it. OK so you said that his wife drowned. -- mean she's and you said that he said his wife drowned yes and you perjury is a bitch Tulsa okay.

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