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Better Question how much does Patterson being picked up off waivers with his contract effect the cap? _________________The Dawgpounds new three headed monster!
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$6M was guaranteed.
This is the amount that matters. Since Patterson was claimed, the Browns are off the hook for his bonus money. I'm not sure about the years after or about the dead money that could factor into it later.

My best educated guess is that since he was waived midseason and claimed, the Browns suffer no cap hit this year. But will suffer a cap hit of $1.1M for 2013 and 2014, but will not owe Patterson any dollar amount.

I also found this gem for those wondering.

Quote:

Section 1. Release:

(a) Whenever a player who has finished the season in which his fourth year of credited service has been earned under the Bert Bell/Pete Rozelle Plan is placed on waivers between February 1 and the trading deadline, his contract will be considered terminated and the player will be completely free at any time thereafter to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and sign a Player Contract with such player, without penalty or restriction, including, but not limited to, Draft Choice Compensation between Clubs or First Refusal Rights of any kind, or any signing period. If the waivers occur after that time, the player's Player Contract will be subject to the waiver system and may be awarded to a claiming Club. However, if such player is claimed and awarded, he shall have the option to declare himself an Unrestricted Free Agent at the end of the League Year in question if he has a no-trade clause in his Player Contract. If such player does not have a no-trade clause and the Player Contract being awarded through waivers covers more than one additional season, the player shall have the right to declare himself an Unrestricted Free Agent as set forth above at the end of the League Year following the League Year in which he is waived and awarded.

As of now 80% of availible cap money is held by 8 teams I'm also going to list players in 2013 they need to resign and players free agents they may extend this year.
1. Cinci 55.1 million players 2013 Michael Johnson d.e. and Andre Smith o.t. 2014 Geno Atkins d.t.

Now I'm probably missing a few guys teams will want to resign or extend. I picked out their best players hopefully.
Indy and Cleveland after resigning their own players look like the teams in the best shape cap wise. Some players I listed may be let go also._________________browns and indian fan 7272

As of now 80% of availible cap money is held by 8 teams I'm also going to list players in 2013 they need to resign and players free agents they may extend this year.
1. Cinci 55.1 million players 2013 Michael Johnson d.e. and Andre Smith o.t. 2014 Geno Atkins d.t.

Now I'm probably missing a few guys teams will want to resign or extend. I picked out their best players hopefully.
Indy and Cleveland after resigning their own players look like the teams in the best shape cap wise. Some players I listed may be let go also.

According to pro football talk we have 14.3 million dollars in carryover cap money we can spend. I don't see us spending it though.
I think we spend to about the 89% percent we have to. 89% of 120 million is around 107 million. 120 million dollars is around what the cap should be.
Look to spend around 35.9 in extensions,rookie money pool and free agency. I think we will sign a few free agents but don't see us spending 48.9 million or any of the carryover money._________________browns and indian fan 7272

According to pro football talk we have 14.3 million dollars in carryover cap money we can spend. I don't see us spending it though.
I think we spend to about the 89% percent we have to. 89% of 120 million is around 107 million. 120 million dollars is around what the cap should be.
Look to spend around 35.9 in extensions,rookie money pool and free agency. I think we will sign a few free agents but don't see us spending 48.9 million or any of the carryover money.

Wouldnt the browns have to spend enough to hit the floor + the carry over money as well too?

Since there are now penalties for not hitting the minimum salary floor, allowing teams to carry over money to future seasons does not make sense.

at this point, it looks like its spend it or lose it.. ._________________

According to pro football talk we have 14.3 million dollars in carryover cap money we can spend. I don't see us spending it though.
I think we spend to about the 89% percent we have to. 89% of 120 million is around 107 million. 120 million dollars is around what the cap should be.
Look to spend around 35.9 in extensions,rookie money pool and free agency. I think we will sign a few free agents but don't see us spending 48.9 million or any of the carryover money.

Wouldnt the browns have to spend enough to hit the floor + the carry over money as well too?

Since there are now penalties for not hitting the minimum salary floor, allowing teams to carry over money to future seasons does not make sense.

at this point, it looks like its spend it or lose it.. .

The way I understand it the 89% starts this year. Also teams have to average 89% over three years. So they could spend like 80% this year 90% next year and 100% the third year and be okay. Since there was no amount you had to spend last year my understanding is the carry over doesn't have to be spent. One of the problems with spending 48.9 million and the 14.3 million in carryover it puts you 14.3 million over the cap next year minus expiring contracts and if the cap goes up. My guess is we spend around 35.9 million this year give or take a few million._________________browns and indian fan 7272

I'm sorry but I read where the 48.9 million we have to spend includes the 14.3 million in carryover money. So actually without the carryover money we have 34.6 million to spend. I f we spend 89% of the cap money that would be about 21.6 million we would spend. If we spend 4 million on rookie contracts, 4 million a year on extending Mack [8 million a year] and 5 million on Ward [6 million a year] we have about 8.6 million to spend. We won't be spending as much as we thought._________________browns and indian fan 7272