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Gunsprout wrote: The point that I was trying to get across was that in all of his films, it's like ol' George's characters (whatever they may be called) are basically all Doug Ross. So in The Peacemaker it's ike he's still playing Doug Ross but after he's quit being an ER doc and has joined the army.

Same character, different job...

No not same character, same face. There is a difference.

Clooney's characterisation of Doug Ross is miles apart from his character in Syriana. It's as far from Seth Geckko (spelling unsure) as you could hope for (were you watching the same movie). His characterisation in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, yes it's so transparent isn't it? It's Doug Ross with a moustache.

Even characters that on the surface might seem similar say the ones in Three Kings and Peacmaker for example, (both army types) are poles apart. One is highly skilled and motivated (Peacemaker) the other jaded and cynical.

It's acting. It's pretend and the only thing these characters have in common as far as I can see, is that they all look like the actor George Clooney.

Gunsprout, you obviously don't like Clooney much and that's fine. Your not compelled to but this dislike is probably why you see all his parts the same as Doug Ross for ER.

My point of view is the flip side of that though. I'm a fan of Clooney's work particularly the choices he has made recently (compared to the road he could have chosen) and that is why I see more than Doug Ross going on with each new film.

The point that I was trying to get across was that in all of his films, it's like ol' George's characters (whatever they may be called) are basically all Doug Ross. So in The Peacemaker it's ike he's still playing Doug Ross but after he's quit being an ER doc and has joined the army.

The guy perfected his form of acting in ER (ie: being smug or having a strop) and hasn't changed character since.

Other than the actor, those characters have almost nothing in common nor does Clooney's portrayal of them have anything in common. I love how people knock actors and say that all their roles are the same.

Intergalactic Ponce wrote: Stephen, I was joking. I believe Johnny Depp is a fantastically unorthadox actor and as such, extremely watchable in just about every role he takes on. My previous post was in reaction to ESPO's post that Depp is like Jack Sparrow in all his movies. A statement that I believe as cock of the highest order.

Stephen Etherton wrote: Intergalactic Ponce wrote: ESPO wrote: depp acts like jack sparrow in all of his movies...even the ones be4 potc...he doesnt change the style..and he never fits the character ..........................................................................hes good..but..........................you decide..

Absolutely correct. Jack Sparrow is exactly the same character as Ed Wood, Willy Wonka, JM Barrie, Donnie Brasco, Edward Scissorhands, Hunter Thompson.....the list goes on and on. Depp is such a one trick pony.

I can not agree with the comparison of the overly flamboyant Captain Jack Sparrow is played the same as Edward Scissorhands, or Donnie Brasco. He may play many goofy character pieces (like Wonka or Wood), but he does have a differant approach to them. I understand this is just some opinions here, and I am not his biggest fan out there, but I think he can do more then one way to act.

Stephen, I was joking. I believe Johnny Depp is a fantastically unorthadox actor and as such, extremely watchable in just about every role he takes on. My previous post was in reaction to ESPO's post that Depp is like Jack Sparrow in all his movies. A statement that I believe as cock of the highest order.

Intergalactic Ponce wrote: ESPO wrote: depp acts like jack sparrow in all of his movies...even the ones be4 potc...he doesnt change the style..and he never fits the character ..........................................................................hes good..but..........................you decide..

Absolutely correct. Jack Sparrow is exactly the same character as Ed Wood, Willy Wonka, JM Barrie, Donnie Brasco, Edward Scissorhands, Hunter Thompson.....the list goes on and on. Depp is such a one trick pony.

I can not agree with the comparison of the overly flamboyant Captain Jack Sparrow is played the same as Edward Scissorhands, or Donnie Brasco. He may play many goofy character pieces (like Wonka or Wood), but he does have a differant approach to them. I understand this is just some opinions here, and I am not his biggest fan out there, but I think he can do more then one way to act.

ESPO wrote: depp acts like jack sparrow in all of his movies...even the ones be4 potc...he doesnt change the style..and he never fits the character ..........................................................................hes good..but..........................you decide..

Absolutely correct. Jack Sparrow is exactly the same character as Ed Wood, Willy Wonka, JM Barrie, Donnie Brasco, Edward Scissorhands, Hunter Thompson.....the list goes on and on. Depp is such a one trick pony.

Clooney is really one of the better actor's out there. Now, he is making better choices in what roles he played. The whole Batman debacle was not Clooney's fault, other than for taking on the role. Besides, that the only other really bad acting job by him was Return of the Killer Tomatoes.

ESPO wrote: depp acts like jack sparrow in all of his movies...even the ones be4 potc...he doesnt change the style..and he never fits the character ..........................................................................hes good..but..........................you decide..

depp acts like jack sparrow in all of his movies...even the ones be4 potc...he doesnt change the style..and he never fits the character ..........................................................................hes good..but..........................you decide..

thalo wrote: ron perlman was also in a french film the city of lost children. after beauty and the beast this was the film that I recall most that he was in. also in the name of the rose, which I like.

i dont think that mr pitt and mr depp are over rated in that they are versatile and can play many rolls convincinly. mr. pitt in spy games and then contrast his roll in snatch. a yank pulling off a total incoherent gypsy.

ron perlman was also in a french film the city of lost children. after beauty and the beast this was the film that I recall most that he was in. also in the name of the rose, which I like.

i dont think that mr pitt and mr depp are over rated in that they are versatile and can play many rolls convincinly. mr. pitt in spy games and then contrast his roll in snatch. a yank pulling off a total incoherent gypsy.

Adrian wrote: Being cast in Pirates of the Carribean has nothing to do with being or not being a good actor. It has to do with box office draw which is something completely different. Bloom can be counted on to draw the 13-15 year old girls to movies like this and that is why he is cast in the movies.

You're right about the first part, being cast for a movie that size doesn't necessary mean that he is good, but you made my point on your second one alot of girls between 13-15 really thinks he's good

Faith Kaya wrote: He wouldn't have been cast for the upcoming Pirates of the Caribbean or even the first one if that wasn't the case, that probably means that some people really think that he is good I guess..

Being cast in Pirates of the Carribean has nothing to do with being or not being a good actor. It has to do with box office draw which is something completely different. Bloom can be counted on to draw the 13-15 year old girls to movies like this and that is why he is cast in the movies.

I wasn't really picking on you Tony. Unfortuantely, Perlman hasn't really appeared in many mainstream movies. But then again, I have been watching him since before you were born. I was really surprised that he never turned his success in Beauty and the Beast into more of a career. Hellboy, at least so far, seems to have raised his visibility somewhat.

Adrian wrote: Tony DeFrancisco wrote: Ron Perlman is probably not a rated actor at all. Outside of fanboys, I doubt anyone knows who Ron Perlman is.Huh? Star Trek: Nemesis, Hellboy, Enemy at the Gates? If no one knows him from these films from his main or supporting roles from the last five years, maybe they should do a little research.

You really made my point for me Tony. Look at the movies you listed (except enemy at the gates) and those are all movies that were not big hits outside of their genres. The average movie goer would not be able to pick Ron Perlman out of a crowd. He is not well known and probably never will be.[/quote] You're right, sorry about that. I never knew he had so many cartoon voice roles as not as many film roles. Kinda surprised me actually. Those three films I listed were only on the top of my head.

Chris wrote: I imagine a few people know of Pearlman from Beauty and the Beast.

I was going to bring that up, but you know, I doubt many people knew that Perlman played Vincent and even if they did they wouldn't have known what he looked like out of costume. Will we ever get that show on DVD?

Adrian wrote: Tony DeFrancisco wrote: Ron Perlman is probably not a rated actor at all. Outside of fanboys, I doubt anyone knows who Ron Perlman is.Huh? Star Trek: Nemesis, Hellboy, Enemy at the Gates? If no one knows him from these films from his main or supporting roles from the last five years, maybe they should do a little research.

You really made my point for me Tony. Look at the movies you listed (except enemy at the gates) and those are all movies that were not big hits outside of their genres. The average movie goer would not be able to pick Ron Perlman out of a crowd. He is not well known and probably never will be.[/quote]

jaded25 wrote: I know I'm going to be hated for this but I have to say it, Johnny Depp. He was great in Pirates of the carribean and the sequel looks ok but other than those two movies all of his other movies are either boring or just barely above average, and his acting wasn't anything special in those other movies either.

Huh? Johnny Depp is one of the greatest actors of our times. He just avoided main stream movies. Pirates of the Carribean is a good movie, but hardly representative of what an actor Depp can be.

Tony DeFrancisco wrote: Ron Perlman is probably not a rated actor at all. Outside of fanboys, I doubt anyone knows who Ron Perlman is.Huh? Star Trek: Nemesis, Hellboy, Enemy at the Gates? If no one knows him from these films from his main or supporting roles from the last five years, maybe they should do a little research.[/quote]

You really made my point for me Tony. Look at the movies you listed (except enemy at the gates) and those are all movies that were not big hits outside of their genres. The average movie goer would not be able to pick Ron Perlman out of a crowd. He is not well known and probably never will be.

Ron Perlman is probably not a rated actor at all. Outside of fanboys, I doubt anyone knows who Ron Perlman is.Huh? Star Trek: Nemesis, Hellboy, Enemy at the Gates? If no one knows him from these films from his main or supporting roles from the last five years, maybe they should do a little research.

I know I'm going to be hated for this but I have to say it, Johnny Depp. He was great in Pirates of the carribean and the sequel looks ok but other than those two movies all of his other movies are either boring or just barely above average, and his acting wasn't anything special in those other movies either.

You really like starting threads, don't you. The 1st 7 threads are your's. Well, I'd say George Clooney is pretty overrated. He's good, but doesn't really stand out in my mind. For an actress, Sandra Bullock. She was good in Crash, but in everything else she's just loud and obnoxious.