Posted - 2017.05.18 22:36:47 -
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I havent bought plex in a while but i seem to remember the $100 pack being 6 plex its now just over 5 months of plex? is this what happened or did the $100 always give 5

Posted - 2017.05.18 23:16:57 -
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A couple of the packs changed value I think, most of them didn't though, but they all got calculated in base value from the new smallest package which is more expensive. (And before was far too small to be bought). So it looks like plex changed value on a lot of packs since the 'bonus' amount changed.

No. The only one that is more expensive is the 1000 NuPlex. Most of the others are cheaper.

Edit: For your convenience, I will note that your confusion stems from the fact that the NuPlex package is $100 while the old 6 plex package was $105.

your looking at it like the fool they take you for

in order to get 3k plex (old 6) you now have to buy the 99 and two of the 4.99 so that is 109.97

And in order to get 110 Plex in the old system, you had to buy 500 plex and spend $15 extra dollars...

Seriously though, why do you need exactly 6 plex? You're not using them to plex your account, or else you'd buy a subscription for less. So the fact that you're getting slightly less than 6 is irrelevant when the ~5.7 you're getting are the exact same price per unit that you got in the old system. In fact, you can argue that it's even better, since you don't have to spend as much money to get as good of a per unit price.

Further the $250 NuPlex package saves you $0.60 per plex and the $500 NuPlex package saves you $1.30 per Plex.

The only NuPlex ppu where you pay more than the old option is the 1000 NuPlex variant. Everyone is the same, or benefits.

no matter how you spin it if it costs more to get 3k than it used to it costs more to get 3k plex

And it costs less now to get ~5.7 old plex in today's system than the old system....

If you don't understand why you're not making sense by now, I can't really help you.

You're joking right?

It doesn't matter if it costs less to buy less. That doesn't make it cheaper.

It costs more to buy the same amount than it used to in many cases. That is, it is more expensive.

Read the whole thread. And no, I'm not joking. If I want exactly 1,100 NuPlex, I only pay 99.99. In the old system, I would have to buy 6 Plex and pay $105.00. I would be forced to spend an extra $5.00 in the old system.

The only things that matter is ppu.

Basically, this guy isn't really whining that PLEX is more expensive. What he's whining about is that CCP replaced some of their odd-numbered deals (e.g. $105, $210, $490) with more normal-numbered deals (e.g. $100, $250, $500). The ppu however, remains the same (or is better).

Read the whole thread. And no, I'm not joking. If I want exactly 1,100 NuPlex, I only pay 99.99. In the old system, I would have to buy 6 Plex and pay $105.00. I would be forced to spend an extra $5.00 in the old system.

The only things that matter is ppu.

Basically, this guy isn't really whining that PLEX is more expensive. What he's whining about is that CCP replaced some of their odd-numbered deals (e.g. $105, $210, $490) with more normal numbers (e.g. $100, $250, $500).

1100 NuPlex is $99?

That would mean 2.2 old PLEX is $99?

I think not. If you want exactly 1100NuPlex, pay $39.99 and buy the 1100 pack.

$99 gets you 2860 NuPlex. This is short of the equivalent 3000 for 6 PLEX you would have purchased before.

To buy 3000 NuPlex +

1. x $99 @ 28601 x $4.99 @ 110

Is still short of 6 PLEX in the old system, so you have to purchase an additional $4.99 pack to get the equivalent of the previous 6 PLEX, giving you 80 NuPlex left over.

That's a total cost now, to get the equivalent of the former 6 PLEX, of 99 + 4.99 + 4.99 = $108.98

That is more expensive than it was before, though you are also provided a slightly more amount of 80 NuPlex than buying 6 PLEX under the old system (ie. $108.98 gives you 6.16 old PLEX).

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

Read the whole thread. And no, I'm not joking. If I want exactly 1,100 NuPlex, I only pay 99.99. In the old system, I would have to buy 6 Plex and pay $105.00. I would be forced to spend an extra $5.00 in the old system.

The only things that matter is ppu.

Basically, this guy isn't really whining that PLEX is more expensive. What he's whining about is that CCP replaced some of their odd-numbered deals (e.g. $105, $210, $490) with more normal numbers (e.g. $100, $250, $500).

1100 NuPlex is $99?

That would mean 2.2 old PLEX is $99?

I think not.

$99 gets you 2860 NuPlex. This is short of the equivalent 3000 for 6 PLEX you would have purchased before.

To buy 3000 NuPlex +

1. x $99 @ 28601 x $4.99 @ 110

Is still short of 6 PLEX in the old system, so you have to purchase an additional $4.99 pack to get the equivalent of the previous 6 PLEX, giving you 80 NuPlex left over.

That's a total cost now, to get the equivalent of the former 6 PLEX, of 99 + 4.99 + 4.99 = $108.98

That is more expensive than it was before, though you are also provided a slightly more amount of 80 NuPlex than buying 6 PLEX under the old system (ie. $108.98 gives you 6.16 old PLEX).

No it's cheaper than it was before.

In the old system, I wanted exactly 5.7ish plex for some obscure reason. But in order to get that 5.7ish Plex, I had to pay $105.00.

Now in the new system, I only have to pay 99.99 to get that 5.7 ish Plex and I get the exact same ppu as in the old $105.00 package.

In short, I'm getting the same great deal, and I'm saving money by only having to buy exactly what I want. :)

you couldn't that's his point. in his mind its okay that plex cost more now because you can buy less

But Plex don't cost more.If you look for a specific value of plex at which the packages no longer suit sure you can find a situation where you have to spend more. But on the whole the plex price is equivalent to the old price.The structure of where the 'bonus' plex are is different because Bonus are now measured from the 'more expensive' $5 option. Not the $20 500 plex option. But that is a marketing spin visual, not an actual difference.

you couldn't that's his point. in his mind its okay that plex cost more now because you can buy less

But Plex don't cost more.If you look for a specific value of plex at which the packages no longer suit sure you can find a situation where you have to spend more. But on the whole the plex price is equivalent to the old price.The structure of where the 'bonus' plex are is different because Bonus are now measured from the 'more expensive' $5 option. Not the $20 500 plex option. But that is a marketing spin visual, not an actual difference.

What's the answer to the question Lugh asked in the OP:

I havent bought plex in a while but i seem to remember the $100 pack being 6 plex its now just over 5 months of plex? is this what happened or did the $100 always give 5

Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."

you couldn't that's his point. in his mind its okay that plex cost more now because you can buy less

But Plex don't cost more.If you look for a specific value of plex at which the packages no longer suit sure you can find a situation where you have to spend more. But on the whole the plex price is equivalent to the old price.The structure of where the 'bonus' plex are is different because Bonus are now measured from the 'more expensive' $5 option. Not the $20 500 plex option. But that is a marketing spin visual, not an actual difference.

What's the answer to the question Lugh asked in the OP:

I havent bought plex in a while but i seem to remember the $100 pack being 6 plex its now just over 5 months of plex? is this what happened or did the $100 always give 5

I already told him. They did not have a '$100 for 6 plex' pack. It was a $105 pack for 6 plex. He was mis-remembering the price. That pack no longer exists.

I also told him what he was really upset about was not the price of the plex (as it had stayed the same on a per unit basis at around the same price point), but the fact that they had eliminated the $105 pack, but cray wanna be cray.

That's also compounded with it being more work to sell. A lot of us made our isk buying and selling plex on the market. It being predictable with low volume high value made this a great way to make isk. With low value high volume there is more effort in trading it

you couldn't that's his point. in his mind its okay that plex cost more now because you can buy less

But Plex don't cost more.If you look for a specific value of plex at which the packages no longer suit sure you can find a situation where you have to spend more. But on the whole the plex price is equivalent to the old price.The structure of where the 'bonus' plex are is different because Bonus are now measured from the 'more expensive' $5 option. Not the $20 500 plex option. But that is a marketing spin visual, not an actual difference.

What's the answer to the question Lugh asked in the OP:

I havent bought plex in a while but i seem to remember the $100 pack being 6 plex its now just over 5 months of plex? is this what happened or did the $100 always give 5

I already told him. They did not have a '$100 for 6 plex' pack. It was a $105 pack for 6 plex. He was mis-remembering the price. That pack no longer exists.

I also told him what he was really upset about was not the price of the plex (as it had stayed the same on a per unit basis at around the same price point), but the fact that they had eliminated the $105 pack, but cray wanna be cray.

More upset that it is more than $4 more to buy 6 plex than it used to be

Posted - 2017.05.19 05:52:00 -
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But only if you buy exactly (or as close to exactly) 6 plex as possible, rather than just stepping up to the next pack size and getting more than 6 plex.It's the same as if you argued that with old plex 7 Plex cost more per plex than 6 because you had to buy a single plex for $20 to add the 7th.

Posted - 2017.05.19 06:09:58 -
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Except you are still deliberately picking the most expensive way to do it by attempting to exactly match that numberAnd failing at basic literacy as to what I actually said.

The price has not gone up per plex, they have just changed the package sizes and the new size no longer suits you.

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