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Re: The Official MADONNA Discussion Thread!

Okay so, not the biggest Madonna fan but this guy I'm seeing frequently loves her so I decided to check out her music. I'm not a really big fan still but I really like some of her songs. My top 10 Madonna songs are as follows:

I don't think I'd ever want to see her in concert for 2 hours or something but I do like these songs and a few others. I do appreciate the fact that most, if not all of her music is pop and not really pop mixed with other genres like RnB or Rock, etc. It's actually the same reason I very much love Kylie, but Kylie and Madonna's music is very different. In short I feel Kylie's music is much "happier" than Madonna's. So I'd rather dance to something like Spinning Around/Can't Get You Out of My Head/Get Outta My Way before I'd dance to Madonna's songs.

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Saw the MDNA tour on Tuesday. It was really good. She kept us waiting 2 hours while she watched the debate but she seemed friendly. That was the 3rd time I saw her. I saw the Confessions tour and I saw her at her best in the Who's That Girl World Tour. That was my first concert. Memories.

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I prefer Kylie's work over Madonna's. Only enjoy about four Madonna albums (True Blue, Like a Virgin, Ray of Light, Music). Madonna's current problem is her inability to connect with youth. Haven't been to a Madonna concert but I wouldn't hazard to assume she's rocking the 25+ demographic.

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I see no reason to choose between Kylie and Madonna. They seem to coexist without intrusion. If I had to choose though, it would be Madonna. I just haven't heard enough Kylie albums cover to cover to compare her fairly to the Queen.

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I love them both, but I've loved Madonna for longer. Actually, I think Kylie's more recent music is having the reverse problem of Madonna not appealing to youth. A lot Kylie's long-time fans keep ripping her apart for being in her 40s and singing "silly pop songs" like the ones from Aphrodite, and also Timebomb. Especially the Impossible Princess stans... I don't get it.

Madonna's attempts to appeal to younger audiences are a lot more transparent though. I don't think many are buying it, and it's turning off some of her older fans too. The fan favorites from the last two albums -- "Devil Wouldn't Recognize You," "Miles Away," "Love Spent," "I'm Addicted," "Gang Bang" -- have a huge difference in lyrical depth from the first two singles of each album.

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I could somewhat agree on the Madonna singles thing after listening to her last 2 albums (which I don't think are that bad) I don't get her major single release choices. I really like Dance 2night, Miles Away, Voices, Beat Goes On, Masterpiece, etc. over Give Me All Your Luvin' & 4 Minutes.

Madonna and Kylie seem to have a similar fan base because they are similar in style when it comes to music and fashion. But their songs are very different and that's where they seem to diverge. I prefer Kylie a lot more.

Kylie's releasing The Abbey Road Sessions this month, and will release a re-make of On a Night Like This on December 17! And she's reportedly also going release her 12th studio album next year.

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I think it's 2018 that it expires. She signed a 10-year, 3-album, 5-tour contract with them while she was still with Warner, as both legs of Sticky and Sweet counted toward Madonna's touring obligations with Live Nation. MDNA was the first album and third tour, so she's got two of each left.

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Here you go boys, some eye candy

I think some of these guys were in her superbowl halftime show. I love her dancers. Guys who dance well turn me the fuck on for some reason. The 4 guys she had with her during 'Music' on the bleachers had me so hard.

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The video with the dancing girl was made for another song (it's some weird foreign instrumental called "Skeletons Having Sex on a Tin Roof" ) but some Madonna fan who thought the lyrics for GGW were extremely vapid and subpar for Madonna's standards put the song over that video prior to Madonna's video being released. I dunno, the imagery is so silly and syncs so well with parts of GGW -- by total serendipity, because it's unedited from the original video -- that it turned the song around for me.

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That cheerleading outfit isn't making you look any younger, Madge. It's time for you to stop putting out aggressively bland comeback albums and make room for Ke$ha and Katy and the other 800 female artists out there who change outfits every five minutes to distract people from their terrible singing.

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Like I've said before -- critics have been declaring that Madonna is "over"/irrelevant/washed-up/past her sell-by date since 1992. It's gotten to be quite amusing as the years have progressed.

Meanwhile, she's still around twenty years later (and not only still around, but still challenging herself artistically, still selling out stadiums around the world, still racking up #1s)... how many of them can say the same?

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"She" hasn't made a "decent" album since Music

This is purely opinion though and musical taste varies from one person to another so this is irrelevant. I actually don't know why everyone starting PMS-ing over Hard Candy. I actually like many tracks from that album and I'm not even her biggest fan.

So some people will love her new work some will hate it so there's no 'quality' to talk of. People who talk like that remind me of food critics. It's like, seriously, WHO CARES? Some people like to eat fish and chips, some people prefer chicken, some prefer greens, not everyone has to like calamari and champagne. I don't get people's obsession with being like some fucking quality police and literally going into other people's homes and telling them what's good and what isn't and what they should or shouldn't be listening to. And at the same time being basically so anti mainstream and telling anyone who likes mainstream stuff that their taste in music is horrible and they "don't know" what real music is.

It's pointless. People have a choice when it comes to musical preference. Get the fuck over it. Clearly enough people like Madonna's recent work for her to still be a (very) profitable touring act. And her last 5 CDs have all gone straight to #1.

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Originally Posted by aaronxp

Why is it always about numbers and not quality?

"She" hasn't made a "decent" album since Music and not that I think her music is truly good or something to take seriously but it seems those numbers were/are her only prority, no artistry at all, pure narcissism.

You may have noticed that the first thing I mentioned was that she "still challenges herself artistically." Which, to me, is the most important thing. But, given that art is subjective and a matter of personal tastes, the more tangible example of her relevance are the numbers -- hence the reason I cited album sales and ticket sales.

She continues to set records in those areas, so obviously a rather large amount of people are still interested in her. Hence relevancy.

And if you don't think she's interested in artistry -- check out album cuts like "Gang Bang," or her elaborately designed & choreographed stage show.

I'm not someone who thinks Madonna shits gold, but -- for the life of me -- I can't figure out how anyone could dismiss all of that.