I use the LOT vowel for all of them. So want has the STRUT vowel, therefore the same vowel as in "won"? So for you "want" and "won" sound the same except for the /t/? Also, which vowel do you use in THOUGHT?

dEhiN wrote:Canadian here, but I say it like this:

"wash" THOUGHT"wasp" LOT"want" THOUGHT"watch" LOT

Which vowel sounds do you use in LOT and THOUGHT?

vijayjohn wrote:living in Texas for so long may have caused me to sometimes pronounce "day" with a monophthong in fast/casual speech (I think [ɪ]).

OyVey wrote:I've only heard [ˈkʰlɔ:ɹi:n] and [kʰlɔ:ˈɹi:n]. Are there other variations?

Apparently [ˈkʰlɔ:ɹɪn] is one, but only a British toff would say that. I asked because the dictionaries I checked only have the stress on the first syllable, but I've always said it with stress on the second.

The ending -ine in chemistry, pharmacology etc. is quite the clusterfuck. I've heard "quinine" said about four different ways, and "iodine" two or three. It seems the diphthongized /aɪn/ is the old-fashioned way and the standard for newly discovered compounds is /i:n/.

OyVey wrote:I've only heard [ˈkʰlɔ:ɹi:n] and [kʰlɔ:ˈɹi:n]. Are there other variations?

Apparently [ˈkʰlɔ:ɹɪn] is one, but only a British toff would say that. I asked because the dictionaries I checked only have the stress on the first syllable, but I've always said it with stress on the second.

The ending -ine in chemistry, pharmacology etc. is quite the clusterfuck. I've heard "quinine" said about four different ways, and "iodine" two or three. It seems the diphthongized /aɪn/ is the old-fashioned way and the standard for newly discovered compounds is /i:n/.

I have to disagree with you there. I've just asked a random American "What do you call what they put in swimming pools?" and she said [ˈkʰlɔ:ɹi:n]. Then I asked "What do you put on cuts, or what did you used to put on cuts?" "iodine" (/aɪn/). I'd hardly call the /aɪn/ variant old-fashioned.

OyVey wrote:I have to disagree with you there. I've just asked a random American "What do you call what they put in swimming pools?" and she said [ˈkʰlɔ:ɹi:n]. Then I asked "What do you put on cuts, or what did you used to put on cuts?" "iodine" (/aɪn/). I'd hardly call the /aɪn/ variant old-fashioned.

That was a generalization. "Iodine" is pronounced with /aɪ/ because it's been known for a long time. I said newly discovered substances tend to use /i/. Pronouncing them with /aɪ/ would be old-fashioned.

So, I used the word elsewhere, and now I'm wondering...GenreI say /ʒɑːnɹə/ (more or less), and I've heard the /dʒ/ version of that too. My phonetics/phonology professor says /dʒɒnɚ/ (which makes me think Janner).Is that non-standard American, or is it his own idiosyncrasy?

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md0 wrote:GenreI say /ʒɑːnɹə/ (more or less), and I've heard the /dʒ/ version of that too. My phonetics/phonology professor says /dʒɒnɚ/ (which makes me think Janner).Is that non-standard American, or is it his own idiosyncrasy?

I would say idiolectal. At least I can't remember hearing it from any other person.

I used an affricate pretty consistently up through high school and then switched to /ʒ/ at some point in college.

"Richmond is a real scholar; Owen just learns languages because he can't bear not to know what other people are saying."--Margaret Lattimore on her two sons

Does anyone else pronounce words like "palm" as if they had "all" in the middle (i.e. [pɒɫm] in my accent)? I was really surprised to find out that the standard pronunciation was with /ɑː/ rather than /ɔl/ and even the one with /l/ has an unrounded vowel. I can't possibly be the only one who does this, can I? It had to come from somewhere...