that they didn't show what the new wrestling singlet will look like. ASU did just crown two champs a few weeks ago. as for the football uni's i like them. not too much going on and you can't dig too much on a uni that has "PT42" on it.

The thing the devil is usually portrayed as holding is a trident, i.e. a three-pronged spear. In the vernacular, we usually call the devil's weapon a "pitchfork", which is really a farm implement for tossing hay, but w/e. "Fear the Fork" makes for a better slogan than "Fear the Dent".

It is not like there is a lot of tradition behind a Sun Devil helmet to begin with. If this were Penn.St, ND, or us it would be a F'ing travesty. They are in the Pac12 and on at 10:00 at night, any publicity is good publicity.

1) Weird rays/flames from the trident (which they call a pitchfork but w/e) - is it a pitchfork, or a rocket ship?

2) Gradient on the black uni numbers. Guh.

3) The black unis in general. They look kind of cool, but I'm sick of black for black's sake. It's been done, get over it. The maroon unis look great.

I'm okay with ditching Sparky from the helmet, it was a bit cartoonish and frankly didn't stand out on the field. The new fork has more pop and looks less outdated ("traditional" is good, "outdated" is bad).

I live in Phoenix and the ASU alums at work are generally pleased, though many agree with my dislike of the black unis.

Anyone on the App can, I'm sure. But the deleted posts still show there too.

I wouldn't think you've been banned without an email; and without GOOD reason, that you'd remember. They lean heavily toward free speech, and let one hang themselves pretty much. That's why I said don't act mad, because it probably wasn't action against you, but a glitch. Think they stopped showing up right around the Malware disaster time? Not being that technical, that would be my uneducated bet.

I agree. I think they do a pretty good job. There are a few exceptions, but for the most part they are pretty decent looking. For this particular example, I actually like the maroon and white ones more than the black.

The devil/pitchfork logo was one of the more venerable and classic illustrational marks, and was truly original and distinctive. They've thrown that all overboard in favor of an already-dated flavor-of-the-month that is more at home in the Arena League.

It makes me wonder again: if there is a single athletic director in the country with the brains and the balls to tell Phil Knight—and his money—to go fuck himself?

I think the old logo looked kinda outdated and cheesy, but it definitely was unique. I like the new uni's other than a lack of any kind of logo whatsoever. They should have updated the old one instead of scrapping it altogether.

I like the trident logo on the helmet, although I would have put a sunburst behind it. I think Sparky had a little too much fine detail for a helmet. It looked ok up close, but in a typical line-of-scrimmage shot it was hard to make out the details.

Now the all-black uniform would be fine for Missouri or Southern Miss but it just looks stupid on ASU. Black is not one of their colors. Their colors are maroon and gold.

This. Sparky makes for a decent mascot, but there's too much detail for a helmet. The new pitchfork motif will show up better. If you look at the link to ASUs facebook page, it looks like a smaller Sparky will still be on the back of the helmet, next to the Pac 12 logo.

I'll concede that they aren't bad, but most of Nike's redesigns (Pro Combats, Michigan State's logo debacle, giving Baylor of all people the second Oregon treatment, and Oregon's earlier uniforms themselves) are terrible. Good to see that they're improving.

I like most of the logos-- the ASU on the sleeves is a bit much. The away uni looks pretty sweet, actually. My biggest complaint-- WHY THE BLACK??? What is this, the NHL circa 1997??

How many teams in the Pac10 is Nike going to force black upon??? Obviously Oregon (and OSU doesn't count), but Washington, ASU... there is NO black at all in their color scheme-- and yet Nike takes it there. What, did the child labor sweatshops in Vietnam screw up an order and produce 4x the intended black performance mesh?

Fuck Nike, man....ASU is one of the few schools that could pull off that maroon and gold combo and make it look good and now everything's gotta be blakk. Kuz it's fukkin sikkkkk and wikked and badazzzz and the kidzzzz think it's totally fukkin sweeeeeeeeeeeet.

The sad thing is that outside of the black uniforms, the whole thing looks pretty decent. I liked that Sparky logo they had but I concede it needed a major update and the pitchfork/trident/whatever looks fine. The regular set looks good if you like to rip off of USC. The basketball unis? Pretty solid. And in a vacuum, the black unis wouldn't look bad either - ON A TEAM THAT WEARS BLACK FOR REAL.

But noooooo - in NikeLand, everyone has to wear BLAKK every now and then and there has to be smoke and shit and an INTIMIDATING BACKGROUND so that the players get to feel like fukkin soldiers, man. Warriors.

I really liked the old uniforms and helmet design, but right now I'm indifferent to the new maroon and white unis. Hate the black one's though. I just hope that on the random nights when I find an ASU/Wazzu game on late, they aren't wearing the blacks. I'd like to say I would turn the game off to protest the black uniforms, but that would be a lie...

It really seems like with the exception of Oregon, that Nike is getting exposure at the expense of diluting the brand of most of the schools that it outfits. The kids like it, but what they like is Nike not uniforms/teams. MSU is a great example, they are always trying to establish an identity, always getting back to "tradition" by doing something new. Oregon is the exception because it has built an image of extreme logos/uniforms etc.