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Remember that 'tree ring mystery' that was in the news about 500 pages back? Well, I'd forgotten about it, too. Scientists were baffled by inexplicable C14 readings and were hemming and hawing about gamma ray bursts, supernovae or solar activity as the cause; eventually ruling them all out. Hence, the mystery.

A new peer-reviewed paper is coming out in the journal Geophysical Review Letters which..........wait for it.........blames it on the Sun. In fact they theorize A MEGA-CME 20X the CARRINGTON EVENT!!! We may need to order more sun screen and a Faraday Cage for your Faraday Cage! Shit, we're worrying about a repeat of Carrington and we could get hit with something much, much more powerful. Here's a few teasers-

(snip)They estimate that such a blast would have been about 70 times as powerful as that which knocked out power for millions in Quebec in 1989. It could also have been about 20 times as powerful as the blast behind the solar storm of 1859, which disrupted telegraph systems in North America and Europe. Our sun is probably capable of such a huge blast, given that many distant sunlike stars have been spotted releasing flares that big, if not bigger, the scientists say, though the blast would still have been too small to cause massive extinctions. (snip) [link to news.sciencemag.org]

Here's the Abstract and a link to order your copy of this paper:

Keywords:solar proton event;ozone;carbon-14ABSTRACT[1] We examine possible sources of a substantial increase in tree ring14C measurements for the years AD 774-775. Contrary to claims regarding a coronal mass ejection (CME), the required CME energy is not several orders of magnitude greater than known solar events. We consider solar proton events (SPEs) with three different fluences and two different spectra. The data may be explained by an event with fluence about one order of magnitude beyond the October 1989 SPE.Two hard spectrum cases considered here result in moderate ozone depletion, so no mass extinction is implied, though we do predict increases in erythema and damage to plants from enhanced solar UV.. The modern technological implications of such an event may be extreme, and considering recent confirmation of super-flares on solar-type stars, this issue merits attention.

umm wow i must have missed that posting pages back :/i have studied the C14 because this throws out the carbon dateing thats doneand i have always thought, well since i started learning about space and the sun and solar stuff, that it would be next to impossible to "carbon date" anything! cause they do this only taking into account the rate of decay based on the sun we live with today! if there was some cosmic event in the distant past (and there is a ton of evidence pointing to this) then the age of all ancient things we know of, is completly wrong!ok, i did not read all of your post yet Hugh haha cause i just got so excited someone was actually bringing this subject up in here that i hit reply before i read past C14 hahahai will now go back and read ^^

sorry for any typos tonight everyone, St pats day and i have had my share of drinksbut im still here :)

Quoting: NiNzrez 28232082

here are 3 of my saved links on this subject that i will agree with, more should be looking into this and at least considering it

Ancient tree rings might be proof of worst solar storm in historyScientists studying tree rings found a sharp increase in the amount of radioactive carbon-14 recorded in the rings of ancient Japanese cedar trees between 774 and 775. Carbon-14 can be created by cosmic ray particles arriving from space, but what causes such cosmic ray increases? [link to www.mnn.com]

Ancient Trees Hold Record of Mysterious Cosmic EventA tree’s rings mark both its age and the local environmental conditions, which allows researchers to track historical changes in an ecosystem. But tree rings can also encode signals from beyond Earth: Ancient trees in the Northern Hemisphere have preserved a radioactive souvenir from a 1200-year-old burst of cosmic rays. [link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]

Did A Massive Solar Proton Event Fry The EarthClose to the end of the last ice age there was a sudden disappearance of many mammalian species which some paleontologists say was the most severe since the disappearance of the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. In North America 95 percent of the megafauna became extinct, these being predominantly mammals having body weights greater than 25 to 50 kilograms. But even small animals were affected, as in the disappearance of 10 genera of birds.

Although North America was most affected, it had a severe impact also in Europe, Siberia, and South America. The cause of the extinction has long remained a mystery. Theories that have been put forth have ranged from overkill by North American paleolithic hunters to the impact of a large comet or swarm of meteors. But all have been shown to have serious flaws. [link to www.spacedaily.com]

Remember that 'tree ring mystery' that was in the news about 500 pages back? Well, I'd forgotten about it, too. Scientists were baffled by inexplicable C14 readings and were hemming and hawing about gamma ray bursts, supernovae or solar activity as the cause; eventually ruling them all out. Hence, the mystery.

A new peer-reviewed paper is coming out in the journal Geophysical Review Letters which..........wait for it.........blames it on the Sun. In fact they theorize A MEGA-CME 20X the CARRINGTON EVENT!!! We may need to order more sun screen and a Faraday Cage for your Faraday Cage! Shit, we're worrying about a repeat of Carrington and we could get hit with something much, much more powerful. Here's a few teasers-

(snip)They estimate that such a blast would have been about 70 times as powerful as that which knocked out power for millions in Quebec in 1989. It could also have been about 20 times as powerful as the blast behind the solar storm of 1859, which disrupted telegraph systems in North America and Europe. Our sun is probably capable of such a huge blast, given that many distant sunlike stars have been spotted releasing flares that big, if not bigger, the scientists say, though the blast would still have been too small to cause massive extinctions. (snip) [link to news.sciencemag.org]

Here's the Abstract and a link to order your copy of this paper:

Keywords:solar proton event;ozone;carbon-14ABSTRACT[1] We examine possible sources of a substantial increase in tree ring14C measurements for the years AD 774-775. Contrary to claims regarding a coronal mass ejection (CME), the required CME energy is not several orders of magnitude greater than known solar events. We consider solar proton events (SPEs) with three different fluences and two different spectra. The data may be explained by an event with fluence about one order of magnitude beyond the October 1989 SPE.Two hard spectrum cases considered here result in moderate ozone depletion, so no mass extinction is implied, though we do predict increases in erythema and damage to plants from enhanced solar UV.. The modern technological implications of such an event may be extreme, and considering recent confirmation of super-flares on solar-type stars, this issue merits attention.

umm wow i must have missed that posting pages back :/i have studied the C14 because this throws out the carbon dateing thats doneand i have always thought, well since i started learning about space and the sun and solar stuff, that it would be next to impossible to "carbon date" anything! cause they do this only taking into account the rate of decay based on the sun we live with today! if there was some cosmic event in the distant past (and there is a ton of evidence pointing to this) then the age of all ancient things we know of, is completly wrong!ok, i did not read all of your post yet Hugh haha cause i just got so excited someone was actually bringing this subject up in here that i hit reply before i read past C14 hahahai will now go back and read ^^

sorry for any typos tonight everyone, St pats day and i have had my share of drinksbut im still here :)

Quoting: NiNzrez 28232082

Very cool info and Nin my dear you're allowed as many flavors as you'd like. Great having you around.I believe theres more,soon, some comets and maybe some more wacked out weather. Love St. Patties , night all!

Quoting: shadasonic

Ni(g)ht boss!

The thing that hath been,is That which shall be;and that which is done is that which shall be done:and there is no new thing under the Sun. Ecclesiastes 9:1

Utilizing the law of odds with NiNz Magic Corner,I was able to predict around 3 Hours back that as 1698 approched the South-West limb it would fire out a Mid C on S0s' channel,lmao!

Quoting: Spittin'Cesium

Ok. I guess that is fine then. :)

Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#

Actually,only half forfiled,lol!

'

Flaring underway from 1698 at present,South-West.

Though appears to now be done - Pathetic,though once it rounds the South-West I give 80% chance of&#65279; high C class,as Standard for that region.'

You knowz the Koo.

Quoting: Spittin'Cesium

Exacamundo

“One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan

What a great (and green) way to begin St. Patricks Day! The CME hit us in Fairbanks, Alaska right as predicted late on the evening of March 16 and, with few exceptions, kept us aurora photographers hopping all night long. The only reason I gave up around 2 a.m. is that I ran out of memory cards for my digital camera! One of the most lovely auroral shapes--the corona--occurred one after the other after the other and was one of the prettiest displays Ive seen in many years.

JUPITER-MOON CONJUNCTION: When the sun goes down tonight, step outside and look up. The crescent Moon and Jupiter are having a close encounter in the constellation Taurus--and don't forget Comet Pan-STARRS near the western horizon [link to spaceweather.com]

last night on my google sky app I saw Jupiter right on top of the crescent moon

then on the google sky app showed the sun (sun was setting) looking west

I'm trying to keep this straight too. Here is how I'll remember....Stereo Ahead, Earth to the left. Stereo behind, Earth to the right (I will associate behind with rear with r for to the right) Someone correct me if this won't work.

Spread the word, change the collective conscious......THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH OF EVERYTHING TO GO AROUND

When you are undisciplined, the universe is extremely forgiving and when you are disciplined, the universe is extremely generous. Me

One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore. Andre Gide

Did you guys catch my post at top of the page? Cosmo has a prediction of a time shift for march 13. Nostradamas prophesied a supernova hit/impulse with a Pope changing abodes (not dying, changing residence)!!

I'm trying to keep this straight too. Here is how I'll remember....Stereo Ahead, Earth to the left. Stereo behind, Earth to the right (I will associate behind with rear with r for to the right) Someone correct me if this won't work.

Hey Cesium ... things have been so crazy here of late, I'm not even getting a fair chance at enjoying the solar activity.

Thanks to you and all for keeping me and the many others up to date

Quoting: TS66

leave it to us girl :)thats what your solar buddies are fori think we do it for everyone in here at one time or another, for myself includedyou just make sure you pack everything you need, and add a small BOB in there somewhere, just for the 'incase'