Tony, good point. Since you and Mat are
the mover/seconder, I'll need your confirmation on the following
restatement of the motion:

"Motion:
Whereas 802.4 and 802.9 are in hibernation and no longer have any active
standards I move to to disband 802.4 and 802.9 per Clause 7.2.5.1 of our
P&P."
Moved: Mat Sherman, Second: Tony Jeffree

This 30-day ballot seems to be requesting a 30-day ballot - i.e., if this ballot passes we have to run another ballot before these WGs go away. I would suggest you get the wording of the motion & ballot straightened out so we don't have to run this twice ;-)

Either way, I vote "Approve".

Regards,

Tony

At 18:03 04/08/2004, Paul Nikolich wrote:

Dear EC Members,

This is a 30 day email ballot to make a determination on the following motion:

Motion:

Whereas 802.4 and 802.9 are in hibernation and no longer appear to have any active standards, per Clause 7.2.5.1 of our P&P I'd like to request a 30 day electronic ballot of the EC on a motion to disband 802.4 and 802.9.

I have contacted the chairs of the hibernating 802.4 and 802.9 Working Groups, Paul Eastman and Dhadesugoor Vaman to get their input on the disbanding of their Working Groups. They have also been copied on this email ballot. On behalf of the entire LMSC, I wish to thank Paul and Dhadesugoor for their time and energy they have spent over the years in leading their respective projects.

Paul Eastman disagrees with the disbanding action and his response to my inquiry was as follows:

"I disagreed with the disbanding in 2000 (or 2001) and I still disagree. These standards are still in use in isolated applications. I also believe that these old standards should have the right to protect their legacy. Under the current rules, there is no method for such protection. I know that I am in a very small minority regarding my opinion but I am not about to roll over in bowing to the majority. I will abide by the majority but will maintain my opinion. I do not remember when (other than 2000 or 2001) 802.4 was disbanded.

There has been a motion to disband 802.4 and 802.9, made by Mat Sherman and seconded by Tony Jeffree as shown below:

Motion:

Whereas 802.4 and 802.9 are in hibernation and no longer appear to have any active standards, per Clause 7.2.5.1 of our P&P I'd like to request a 30 day electronic ballot of the EC on a motion to disband 802.4 and 802.9.

Before I initiate the formal email ballot, I will attempt to get the chairs of the hibernating working groups to confirm they agree with this action (Paul Eastman, 802.4 and Dhadesugoor Vaman, 802.9.) over the next several days. I have copied Paul Eastman on this email. I don't have a current email for Vaman, so I've also copied John Boal, who I believe is in contact with Vaman and can notify him of our plans.

Regards,

--Paul Nikolich

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Regards,

Tony

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