Konversation developer Eike Hein noticed KDE appearing on new US drama Heroes. This follows previous outings on 24, Alias and the making of Lord of the Rings. Kopete is the star of the episode, but you don't have to be a hero to make use of KDE's multi-protocol instant messenger.

Funny, I just try the account creation dialog (in 0.12.2), and it does exactly that. It's a two steps dialog, first the protocol, second the user name, and then depending on the protocol, there are extra options (in other tabs) that you can safely ignore (if you want) without preventing the use of your newly created account.

I couldn't agree more.
I've already discussed this in another thread here some time agohttp://dot.kde.org/1150660194/1150660976/1150670453/
but with little success I must admit. It seems hackers can't easily see what difficulty really is, when perceived from the point of view of "normal" users.
Perhaps is in those cases where the so called "usability experts" should appear in the scene?

Anyway, at this time I found it really hard to explain to someone that Kopete should include a mode in which it did a temporary connection, without keeping any data (contact list, history, etc.) from that connection after the user logged out.

Today Kopete is only useful living inside the primary machine of a user, out of that case it is completely useless. i.e. forget about deploying it in a big office or a cybercafe.

Well I think you should re-read that thread.
About your personal computer, create a Guest account for your friends, I have many friends that do this even on windows. I never let anyone use my own account for privacy and security reasons.
If you're in an institution, use kiosk.

So what's the problem?

Plus with vista and its search function that reveals all your private emails/conversation etc... I think everyone will create a guest account in the future. So just be ahead of other and create a guest account :) (it takes 5 seconds on konsole and a minute with kusers).

This kind of answer is THE problem.
See, I'm not a newbie. I know exactly what I want, and why I do.

I think many developers (certainly not all of them, but a lot actually) should try and put themselves in the shoes of "real" users more frequently and seriously than they currently do.
After all what's all that buzz about "usability experts"? and why are they so needed these days in the OSS world?
One could attempt to theorize that's because there must be some kind of "problem" with the natural ability of many developers in reaching the actual needs of the users.
So perhaps listening more carefuly, could be a good start.

To the point of that answers I received a while back.
Very often, a perfectly logical and technically correct solution is not the best one for users.
I'm not saying the answers given to me were not correct ones or that they didn't tend to solve in one way or another the problem described.
But what I really had a hard time transmiting then (and now) is that this solutions were not the best nor the expected ones for an overwhelming lot of users around the globe. And I just can't be anything short of amazed at the inhability some people has to even have a grasp of it.

Having said this, please undestand that I really respect, care and applaud the hard work all coders put into OSS and I'm just trying to point out what I see is a serious problem that's currently affecting the ability of OSS --in this case Kopete and KDE-- to reach the masses.

I have noticed that Usability Experts, as they are called, will do a much better job of identifying a UI's weak points and developing a plan for improved user interaction. This is because they are experts in the field. Programmers aren't usability experts (in most cases, atleast), because of this, usability experts provide an important piece of the OSS world and KDE in particular.

Having developers put themselves in the shoes of "real" users more frequently and seriously than they currently do is a good thing, but usability experts are still needed for their knowledge and experience in the field.

Also, I think you would agree Gabriel, that usability experts are perfect for developing new/improved HIG's (like we are currently doing). Once most KDE developers follow the new KDE HIG, then they will already be putting "themselves in the shoes of "real" users". Notice how most Gnome apps have the same look-n-feel? That is the function of the HIG.

Hope that cleared a few points. Nonetheless, I think that you raise a number of important points.

Thank you to all the people helping & working towards an *even* better KDE! I am looking forward to the future of what is currently my favorite (and I think it is the best) environment to work in.

Yeah, I know what you're talking about, and I agree.
When I talk about usability experts I usually put the name in quotation marks just because I see them as "real users with a degree". :)

I don't know exactly what makes a usability expert an expert, and if my history using and teaching how to use computers since the 80s is of any receipt, I must not be that far from being one of them. But, hey, it's really hard to be heard without the title hanging on my wall! ;)

No problem for your very long post. But you're not replying to any of my points, you're just talking about dev's inability to listen some time.

The point is that Kopete is really trying to integrate with KDE, that means linking with kaddressbook, kcalandar and kmail with kabc and stuff. I think that this is really a good thing, people keep criticizing FOSS desktop about its lack of integration and once we get there we get told that integration is not good. Just because windows doesn't do it this way doesn't mean it's the way to go.
Plus as I said in my previous post, mac and vista desktop are getting there too, a desktop where every app can communicate with one another with search functionalities too. That is really cool but it means one thing, when all your private data are easily accessible from your account you don't want people to use it and that's what's happenning with Kopete but wait for KDE4 and its search function and it'll get worse. People will be able to type your girlfriend/boyfriend name in a box and read all your messenger conversations, see picture she/he sent you etc... :)

That's where we heading, so if you think kopete's way to link with your addressbook sucks then just wait for what's coming next cause it'll be all over the place on mac/vista/kde4/gnome etc...

So the solution indeed is to create a guest account, maybe future distro will come with a default guest account that delete its .kde at every log out. Other than that I don't see other solutions for private use (cause of course you have kiosk in institutions).

jaja... I'm afraid I've set a standard. Your's has an equal extension than mine! ;)

With respect to application integration, I'm definitely in favor of it, even in Kopete.
But what I'm asking for is an even more basic (and non opposite, by the way) need than integration itself.
I see the kind of integration we're talking about here much as a "luxury", whilst being able to easily (can I repeat it: easily) and securely do mobile instant messaging is something I realise is essential to most people today and Kopete is lacking in that area completely.

Today Kopete is very competitive in the segment of integrated multiprotocol IMs, but it's totally out of the game with respect to mobile IM. Period.
To be able to attract users in need of mobile IM comunication, Kopete should include a special mode in which it allowed a user to initiate a IM sesion without having to create a user or anything like that and, equally important, one in which the program didn't save any data from the IM user after he has logged out!

I don't know if this feature is too difficult to implement, but the fact is that it isn't there today, and users needing to use mobile IM apps now will go to another application, not Kopete.
Besides that, I can't code a single line, if not I'd probably start doing something about it myself. Sadly all I can do is just to expose the fact.

I think you are right. I don't see why you have problems convincing anyone about this. Back in the day, I used to run AOL AIM straight from AOL's webpage. I think it was a java applet. You just entered your username and password. When you were done, the java applet went away. The end.

Maybe hackers don't understand because they don't have real life 3 dimensional friends with whom to share their computers. Don't get mad, I'm just kidding! I'm a developer myself. But seriously, I could easily see a "Guest Login" option somewhere in the file menu.

Well, perhaps a good way to make somebody do something about it could be to support the entry in Kopete's bugzilla in which this functionality is suggested with as many votes as possible:http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=129829

What did you expect? We are unlike some other losers, who spend all their hard-earned money bribing everyone coming around the corner and are still not there. In fact, they are struggeling to even stay afloat and have to resort to more useless methods like lying and suing. Maybe I feel pitty for them. Maybe.

Every television show that premiered this year had a "real good looking girl getting undressed" in it at some point or other. Heck, NCIS has one doing so every week in the opening titles, and I'll bet it's not alone. This one had KDE.