PCT: only used a bottle of 6oxo at the end to give me the continued boost after it was over. I love that stuff.

Overall Opinion: Epi is very nice and it was incredibly mild on my body. I had no shut down, no shrinkage of the 'boys'. I had strength increase and endurance was up while on it. My libido dropped through the floor though. I've read this is more of exception, most people do not experience this and it came back right after the cycle while using my 6oxo.

Overall Opinion: Felt pretty good the whole cycle....not exactly "on" but close to it. Gains speak for themselves. In week 2 of PCT right now and am about 202 lbs. So the jury is still out on the gains sticking. However, I feel they will since I do not feel suppressed.

Bench Press 265-345 (I was coming off of a horrible shoulder injury from a bobsledding accident. I kotarized the flesh and it took a long time to heal (when I took off my uniform, the flesh was stuck to it and it peeled right off my body!!! it was nasty) I think it also damaged some of the hard tissue as well, cause working out was impossible for a little while even after the soft tissue healed)

Log 2

Name: Haroldjg

Product: Havoc and TST

Pulse Length (weeks): 10

Pulse Dose: 30 mg havoc and 12mg tst 3x/week

Starting Stats: 6' 2'' 247 lbs @ around 12-13%

Finishing Stats: 6' 2'' 256 lbs @ around 12-13%

Bench Press 295-370 (Prior to this, I injured my elbow arm wrestling and wasnt able to bench for over six months)

I liked the superdrol pulse much better. I was trying to recomp/lean bulk both times, but superdrol gave me better results. I think it may simply be because my havoc dose was on the low side, especially for my body weight. Also the first time I pulsed I had just lost a bunch of wieght, so that deffinately also helped me get back up there. Has anyone else noticed that fat just melts off of you when your taking superdrol??!! Well I guess I just really like superdrol and try to find all of the good in it.

EDIT: I should add though that pulsing SD killed my cardio, while pulsing havoc improved it dramatically.

Overall Opinion: So far ~3 weeks completed, dosed only Havoc@30mg M,W,F. Weight is up ~4Lbs. Feel zero suppression and good rebound on off days. Increased aggression and increased strength and some dryness of joints. Introducing Pheramax for the next 4weeks and dosing both EOD with occasional double day off if suppression creeps up.

Updated final: Myself, I liked the pulse idea. I felt no suppression with the odd "edgy" day. I ended up switching to only Phera halfway through the cycle. I added some Methoxy TST for about a week and then dropped it. It was pretty good stuff but i feared too much estrogen floating around. I will definitely be running another pulse in months to come.

Overall Impression: It was a good cycle only bad thing was killer back pumps(hate those)and lethargy. Strength went up all around noticed alot of size in my shoulders especially.Overall felt pretty good throughout.

The havoc pulse shut me down, no libido left to speak off. I did a 2 week toremifene/nha post cycle therapy after that. No shutdown on the other pulses and even an increased libido afterwards. I'm planning to pulse epistane in the near future to see how it compares to havoc regarding emotional sides and shutdown after I'm done with my current 11-oxo cycle.

Originally Posted by DriverDan

4lbs in 2 weeks on a pulse is impressive. Do you know how lean those were?

The superdrol and havoc gains were lean, the pheraplex gains were atleast 50% bloat.

Originally Posted by neoborn

I believe DR.D etc were recommending taking some kind of test booster on off days i.e. HDX2 in your estro case maybe some MassFX would have helped smooth over them tears with some "I'm gonna rip your head off and sh!t down your throat" agression

I took 1 cap of rebound XT on off days@night. 1 retain in the morning. But I only had the emotional issues with havoc. Not with sdrol and pp.

Originally Posted by motiv8er

Hey man,

I have ot totally call you out on that. I have a had a few moments where I have thought about turning on Steel Magnolias or watching Golden Girls. Hell, bad enough, turn on CNN and watch me ball over Paris Hilton. I think the emotional part of hormones may be a bigger issues than we all give it credit for!

Haha yeah. I felt really great after dosing, during workout and after, but the next day, damn, especially afternoon and evening, forget about it. It's probably ok to be on 24/7, but i'm not pulsing havoc anymore, the off days are horrific.

I have ot totally call you out on that. I have a had a few moments where I have thought about turning on Steel Magnolias or watching Golden Girls. Hell, bad enough, turn on CNN and watch me ball over Paris Hilton. I think the emotional part of hormones may be a bigger issues than we all give it credit for!

Haha yeah. I felt really great after dosing, during workout and after, but the next day, damn, especially afternoon and evening, forget about it. It's probably ok to be on 24/7, but i'm not pulsing havoc anymore, the off days are horrific.

I believe DR.D etc were recommending taking some kind of test booster on off days i.e. HDX2 in your estro case maybe some MassFX would have helped smooth over them tears with some "I'm gonna rip your head off and sh!t down your throat" agression

Sides:none first 3 weeks , but by week 4 libido dropped considerably.Putting that down to the M-Trn.

Overall Opinion: The reason why I changed after week 2 was I'm still experimenting to see what differing effects these steroids have on me when using the pulse method. Good strength increases and pumps in the first 2 weeks and by the start of week 4 was starting to see increased hardness.I was planning to run this pulse for longer but picked up a nasty cold and chest infection middle of week 4.

Pulse Dose: Dropped the TRN after 2 weeks 20mg of LMG/superdrol moved to 30mg of each

Starting Stats: 6'4 235

Finishing Stats: 6'4 246

Post Cycle Therapy: No SERM and nothing big, just going to run some Pro-Anabol, Advanced post cycle therapy, Retain2 and ZMAfor a month.

Overall Opinion: It was a great ride. I slacked off on the end of my log but its all good. Nice gradual strength increases for the whole cycle. I have no physical signs of sides bloodwork will be done in a few days when my Dr. comes back. Libido seemed to increase thru out as well. No drop off. I was hoping for more mass but 11lbs of LBM is nice. I have always been lean but I seemed to lean up a little bit more. I will have BF checked as well.

Would I do another pulse? I am not sure yet. Would I recommend it to anyone. Yes I would, depending on what they wanted out of their cycle and what they were taking.

For those of you that take AI or any other form of test booster during off days, do you guys end the AI dosing at the same time that the on-cycle is completed or do you extend the use of the AI for another week or two?

For those of you that take AI or any other form of test booster during off days, do you guys end the AI dosing at the same time that the on-cycle is completed or do you extend the use of the AI for another week or two?

I'm in the middle of a pulse cycle now. I'm taking Retain 2 and Hyperdrol on the off days and I DO plan on continuing the two once the cyle ends. That's when I'm going to add the liver support as well.

I'm in the middle of a pulse cycle now. I'm taking Retain 2 and Hyperdrol on the off days and I DO plan on continuing the two once the cyle ends. That's when I'm going to add the liver support as well.

side FX- virtually none except had blood work done and had elevated LDL-decided to cut pulse short from 8 wks although had no shutdown and wouldn't have known about lipids w/o
bloodwork.

Overall: Great-gained some decent size and strength and leaned out losing about 2" in waist. Decided to forgo PCT because of high LDL and bloodwork showed no suppression at
all. Will probably pulse from now on if I use designers again.

Forgot to mentioned that I had elevated BP, but I did hit 100
mgs of designers. With regular cycle could not have done this without more pronounced sides. Still, didn't FEEL any sides, no libido changes, no lethargy, just strong workouts. Also took DHEA and Resveratrol on off days. Took ACE inhibitors and BP returned to normal.

This was an attempt at a lean bulk cycle, with emphasis on the leaning out part. cals were cycled lower off days and higher on days. Cardio 4-5 days a week med to high intensity(didn't do cardio all winter/fall so I had to work back up to a decient lvl) Strengh is up considerbly considering I wasn't too heavy on the cals. I feal over all I gained 10-12 lbs of muscle considering the large amount of bodyfat lost. Enjoyed every bit of this cycle, little to no shutdown, considerbly reduced sides(except for a big zit face) and noticable gains throughout...definitly do it again this winter and try more of a bulking style cycle.

Pulse Length (weeks): Intended to do 8 Weeks, ended up only doing 4 because I feel that I've plateaued with this stuff

Pulse Dose: 1 tablet; Mon, Wed, and Fri

Starting Stats: 5'8'', 178lbs, BF was around 8%-10% (not sure)
Finishing Stats: 5'8'', 187lbs, BF is about the same

Side FX: No suppression to speak of...maybe some slight shrinkage but nothing serious. Libido went way up at first and leveled out toward the end (it's about normal now).

FREAKISH strength increases. Major bulking action as well.

Overall Opinion:
If any Very good stuff. The strength was the biggest thing that I noticed. But I ended up getting A LOT of comments about my increase in muscle mass.

I did NOT, however, like the HDX2...just felt a bit toxic once I added that. I cut it out and felt much better. I'm gonna hang on to it and maybe use it as a bridge or something once I'm completely off.
Pulse Cycle Therapy: I am continuing with Retain 2 and taking 10mg of nolvadex in the a.m.'s (for the next week) just to be safe.

NOTE I know that this is a bad idea...but starting next week I'm gonna finish up my "planned" 8-week'er by pulsing Epistane and X-Lean for the remaining four weeks. I know, I know....if anyone has an extra liver, I may be in the market!

NOTE I know that this is a bad idea...but starting next week I'm gonna finish up my "planned" 8-week'er by pulsing Epistane and X-Lean for the remaining four weeks. I know, I know....if anyone has an extra liver, I may be in the market!

Tried to rep ya neo...apparently I need to spread the love before I can rep ya again.

Here's how I'm looking at it. I did four weeks, pulsing three times per week. That's only a total of twelve 'ON' days. If I do another four weeks on Epistane that is equal a TOTAL of twenty-four 'ON' days and I'm still right there in the "bounds".

Just so you know I am no expert in this area. I really just created the faq to give results I am a PH / PS virgin! In addition, not sounding like a complete d!ck, these questions are better off asked in Dr.D's pulsing thread. More , better people that know what they are doing there.

I did NOT, however, like the HDX2...just felt a bit toxic once I added that. I cut it out and felt much better. I'm gonna hang on to it and maybe use it as a bridge or something once I'm completely off. ...

I plan to dose 2 caps HDX2 Every Day for my future Pulse Cycle, is that too much?

I was taking four R2 and four HDX2...I dropped the whole cycle and ran some low dose nolva. I just started an Epistane/X-Lean pulse. I like it MUCH better...I feel healthy! I'm taking two caps of HDX2 on off days.

That T50 was great though...it just put too much bulk for my liking...lost a lot of definition (but the strength was unreal)

I plan to dose 2 caps HDX2 Every Day for my future Pulse Cycle, is that too much?

Yes, Rick has the right idea now, 2 HD only on off nights. That should be pretty effective for everyone, a good place to start.

You could do it daily too, but 1-2/night is a good starting point. It's a strong product and 4 caps/day may precipitate acute CNS stimulation or hyperlibido symptoms associated with a rapid elevation of testosterone production. Also, some people have intense reactions to the Forslean in the formula initially, if they don't ramp it up to 4 caps over a wk or two.