Comments on: 182nd Semiannual General Conference (Priesthood)https://feastuponthewordblog.org/2012/10/06/182nd-semiannual-general-conference-priesthood/
A blog focused on LDS scriptures and teachingMon, 15 Aug 2016 18:40:38 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: Jillianhttps://feastuponthewordblog.org/2012/10/06/182nd-semiannual-general-conference-priesthood/#comment-47937
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]]>By: kirkcaudlehttps://feastuponthewordblog.org/2012/10/06/182nd-semiannual-general-conference-priesthood/#comment-43445
Sun, 07 Oct 2012 22:06:24 +0000http://feastuponthewordblog.org/?p=4122#comment-43445Well…I can’t be right ALL of the time :)
]]>By: Robert C.https://feastuponthewordblog.org/2012/10/06/182nd-semiannual-general-conference-priesthood/#comment-43440
Sun, 07 Oct 2012 19:27:01 +0000http://feastuponthewordblog.org/?p=4122#comment-43440Yes, thanks for the summaries (and discussion!).
]]>By: BeccaatEOUhttps://feastuponthewordblog.org/2012/10/06/182nd-semiannual-general-conference-priesthood/#comment-43432
Sun, 07 Oct 2012 16:20:19 +0000http://feastuponthewordblog.org/?p=4122#comment-43432Thank you KIrk!!! I love the spirit you bring to this Blog even though I loved Sister Dibbs talk! I use your notes in my relief society lessons. Thank you so much us sisters do not get to see this.
]]>By: joespencerhttps://feastuponthewordblog.org/2012/10/06/182nd-semiannual-general-conference-priesthood/#comment-43431
Sun, 07 Oct 2012 15:29:38 +0000http://feastuponthewordblog.org/?p=4122#comment-43431And now most of what I’ve said here doesn’t apply…. :)
]]>By: joespencerhttps://feastuponthewordblog.org/2012/10/06/182nd-semiannual-general-conference-priesthood/#comment-43429
Sun, 07 Oct 2012 13:22:01 +0000http://feastuponthewordblog.org/?p=4122#comment-43429I agree with Zen that there was nothing anti-feminist about Elder Christofferson’s talk. I worried all the way through it about how it would be regarded that way, but I think it can only have been heard that way if one isn’t willing to listen for his actual message. His point clearly wasn’t: “Men, stand up and take back what women are taking from you!” but rather “The feminist movement has had certain social effects, about most of which I’m not going to wager a value judgment, but one effect that has to be addressed is the fact that many males see the changing social dynamic as a reason never to mature into adults.”

The books he cited at the beginning of his talk were not books by LDS feminists, and he didn’t see in these books a claim that women don’t need men. These were sources he was drawing on to mark the changing social structure of the West, without wager value judgments. The point of citing the statistics about jobs, degrees, etc., was not to say that men need to get more competitive and take over the public sphere; the point was to emphasize the fact—and it’s an important one—that one response men have had to the call for gender equality is to begin to retreat from the public sphere. And isn’t it a bit unfair to ask whether we need women men can trust in response to his talk? To whom would he have addressed that sort of statement? And wouldn’t you have been frustrated to hear him tell the men that, since it would imply it was their responsibility to produce women worthy of trust? And I think you entirely missed the point of the story about the young man in India. Elder Christofferson was careful to note that his situation was awful. The point was that the guy actually did something about it, instead of giving up. I too would have liked to hear a statement about how we ought to overturn such situations, but it would have been a tangential point, and he can’t be faulted for not making it in that context (and, anyway, I think he did gesture toward it). Are there worse things than unemployment? Sure. But if you were to tell that to Elder Christofferson, I think he’d be baffled by anyone having a concern about him having said what he said. I don’t think he was trying to establish a universal, timeless hierarchy of awful experiences.

Can we listen with a bit more charity? Can we figure out what can be learned from a talk, even when some of it doesn’t seem to work for us? Can we lose the paternalistic spirit when we listen to someone we’ve sustained as a prophet, a seer, and a revelator? I’m not saying the Brethren are perfect, nor am I saying that I fall down to worship every word that’s said in General Conference. But I don’t see why we should feel the need to criticize and nit-pick instead of finding what’s worth celebrating and promoting here.

]]>By: Zenhttps://feastuponthewordblog.org/2012/10/06/182nd-semiannual-general-conference-priesthood/#comment-43418
Sun, 07 Oct 2012 07:19:43 +0000http://feastuponthewordblog.org/?p=4122#comment-43418I thought the talk by Christofferson was amazing and sorely needed. There is a growing disparity and we need to address it.

It was not remotely anti-feminist. It was however, addressing what it means to be a man when that role seems to be unnecessary and underappreciated in modern culture, except for the few guys already on top.