The nerves of that pos in the WH, talking crap about Al Franken, when he has confessed on video of sexually assaulting women. 12 women has accused him of the acts he described on the video. Can't wait for impeachment, walls are closing in.

The fact Franken thought that stuff was funny, even back in the day (when most would have agreed with him, honestly) says he doesn't really get it. Politics and age have likely only improved his behavior outwardly.

Many women have lost their entire careers by not giving in. Also by giving in... things backfire badly there pretty often too. Worst is if you make trouble by trying to actually do something about it. Bad news! I never reported any of it.

But that girl Franken abused wasn't even given that opportunity... she tried to do the dance, but then got a tongue shoved down her throat and hands on her breasts while she slept. Shame on the sexual predator, Al Franken.

Did you actually see the picture, he didn't put his hand on her breast. A plane full of people, and the person taking the photo claims she was in on the prank. The kiss she described was completely unacceptable, she shouldn't have gave in to his

You sound like one of those delusional pos 45 supporter, defending his action with the Clinton done it responses. Pointing out Monica was willing participants in this affair is in no way making it her fault. All the women and childern in the pos

45, and pedophile Judge Moore cases has no say in the attack by those two monsters. If you believe Clinton is guilty of what he is accused of you should think the same about pos 45, they ran in the same circle of friends.

Why didn't Juanita Broaddrick say William Jefferson Clinton raped her while under oath in the Ken Starr investigation in the 90's. She has no problem making that claim on Fake aka fox news. @Skal, Monica stated she was willing and f

There is going to be a flood for awhile as skeletons come flying out. I hope that moving forward things will be different on some level...mostly, that women who report stuff don't suffer further as a consequence of reporting.

Anyway if the gates continue to stay open, the flood will end and there will still be incidents...but not daily.
Evening national news shows are just treating all this in a daily lump now, sort of a "today in sexual assault" thing.

Women have been complaining about this shít for ever. I doubt there are many adult U.S. women who haven't experienced an assault of some sort. Rapey dates, random strangers at bars, leering bosses...so many flavors.

In the end they're just another disappointment to society.
Weinstein is more of a monster...in a private profession that is a perfect breeding ground for monsters.
Franken violated public trust and is a hypocrite.

I always had worries about that. I still think Bill was a really good president. I think Franken is an excellent senator. These things are hard to reconcile for sure. But we can't make exceptions for them. Bill may be a rapist.

The thought of a predator in the office is awful. The understanding that it's happened before isn't surprising: its the specific individuals. I bet Kennedy was totally guilty for example. Men + power...

Even Bush I, for gods sake, grabbing young women from his fúcking wheelchair. They think it's funny. If you ever said anything it was you that paid the price... come on, it's just a joke, no harm etc. He only touched your private parts, come on!!

Then privately these men think: bítch, what's the matter with her, she's obviously not a good sport.
So we pretend nothing happened, enabling it to continue.
I hope this is ending, guys, for your wives, moms, and sisters.

It's the unasked for touching that's a problem. Especially having ones pussy grabbed by a stranger. More than slightly disturbing. The greater the power differential between 2 people, the higher the burden on the powerful one.

Although I think he's just been touching butts. Not to make light of it, but still so much of a different degree than other stuff we've heard. How mild do things need to be where someone gets punished, censured or whatever but other keeps their job?

you can answer that as well as anyone Drew. Private companies have to draw that line all the time. Where do we the people draw the line? Grabbing asses is Ok? Grabbing pussy Ok? How about if it's your wife?

What if it were male ass favored by Franken? ok then? What if he grabs your butt? ok then? Unfortunately these are new questions to the male mind... haven't really thought about this at all have you. Of course not!

Women run that calculus a lot in our minds, since theoretical accountability is all we can ever expect. I can tell you what seems worse to me, but you seem on your way to judging what is enough preying on me to justify a firing. So, how much?

How about this. DON'T TOUCH A WOMAN'S PRIVATE PARTS WITHOUT CONSENT. How about, if you do that, you're clearly a sexual predator? How about not forcing targets to work with those who prey on them by FIRING THEM so the innocents here can make a

living without constantly running the fúcking gauntlet?
Just like white people don't really get stuff like "driving while black" I just don't think men understand how pervasive and constant it is and how much it affects daily life and career choices

question evil....
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does a woman hold any culpability for an incident that may have happened, say over 25 years ago, began in a nightclub, both parties involved where, lets say "shopping"
just curious, if there's a level of recall he said / she said

Anyway h2o remember that the discussion here has to do with unwanted touching of private parts. TOUCHING. Remember? I think that is pretty straightforward in your mind isn't it? The touching part certainly is. Problem is the "unwanted" part.

The point to me is that when there is a power differential, the whole idea of willingness gets turned into coercion on some level. if the differential is there, the woman doesn't have a choice... she's got a dilemma.

The sexual predator understands this equation and uses it to keep things on the down-low. She knows what she'll get if she squawks.
Coincidentally, today there is an example of just this from yet another beloved pervert Congressman.

the power differential is definitely a problem point, but franken had no power in the 1st accusation, why is it now punishable? it's quite possible she may have been playing along (at the time), it easily could be a change in state 15 years later,

Let's put it this way, h2o. Lets say my boss squeezes my ass when no one is looking. Of I did nothing, would that constitute consent? What if he asked me first of he could have a little feel? If I said yes would it really signal consent?

is there a point, when either side has a credibility in recall problem?
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currently it appears that no matter how much time has passed, the accuser has 100% perfect recall, the accursed is not credible, no matter what the circumstances at the time.

I remembered our interaction quite clearly. And he gave me his business card. He was the head of the National Restaurant Association at the time. I was in Atlanta for a national meeting, from grad school.

When he ran for POTUS, I thought it was that guy so I dug out that card. I never throw those away. Anyway he approached me while I was eating breakfast at the hotel alone and asked if he could join me. He's just really slimy and I left halfway

done and said I had to get to a meeting. He starting talking about the need for science to develop oral protection for sex acts e.g. anal etc. I couldn't believe it. This was his tie-in from asking me about the meeting (American Chemistry Society).