That'd be my guess as to why you can't sleep. Sleeping is for resting your body and if your body isn't tired, you're not going to be able to sleep. Try going for a run about 2 hours before you plan to go to sleep tonight and see if that helps.

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Thanks staple. I never even thought of anything like that but I'm going to take your advice. I definitely need a good night's rest.

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Tuesdays are the worst for me. I work all weekend and so I just kind of want to chill on Monday. Well, it never fails because I don't do anything all day Monday, I'm not tired at all Monday night. Some DDPYoga or a couple mile or so run usually does the trick.

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Yeah it's like you have to keep busy to get tired and when your body is inactive it just wants to stay up and do more. I know on days that I have to do a lot I'm usually exhausted by the end and I actually want to stay up longer than I usually do. The other week I was helping my mom carry furniture inside her new place and it took hours. I had no problem sleeping that night. I'll get out and run this evening or at least take a long walk so my body will want to rest.

The only glitch I've experienced with Hearthfire so far was when I tried to adopt the kid working the mines in Dawnstar. He just stayed standing where I talked to him, so I had to reload a past save. The glitch was clearly warning me that this child was a daedra or something, so I decided not to do that again. Warnings from the glitch gods are the only warnings worth heeding.

The thing that bugs me about it is how they'd fit it in the Nolanverse. If it takes place in the future, which I figure it would, he'd have to return again, having been beaten thoroughly to hell and be almost completely reworked to fit in with Supes and Lantern. It wouldn't make sense to include it as a precursor or to coincide with the other events, without being mentioned at all. And if it is just Bale as a technically separate batman...then I just don't know.

All the rest is good news, though.

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Perhaps Supes could be the reason that they bring Bale back. Superman realizes that they need a team-up for X reason and that he had been keeping tabs on Bruce all along just in case they needed the Batman to return. And as far as being beat up, they could have him explain how he expanded on the technology used on his knee and implemented it throughout his suit. It'd give him a way to contend with whatever threat was big enough to require the team up in the first place.

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I would be definitely be interested. Also I may be in the minority but I wouldn't mind Ryan Reynolds coming back as Green Lantern. The movie itself was bad but it wasn't because of him.

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I wouldn't mind Reynolds back as Lantern either. I'd almost prefer it because I don't want a Lantern reboot. Even though the movie wasn't great, they nailed Sinestro, and I want that to stay in the continuity.

As for what staple said, my problem with that is it would have to be reversed. Superman can't keep tabs on Bruce because 1) It would be Batman who finds out who Superman is, not the other way around, and 2) If it is Justice League Batman, he needs to be the master detective, strategist, and leader. It would be Batman keeping tabs on Supes and deciding that he needed help.

Perhaps Supes could be the reason that they bring Bale back. Superman realizes that they need a team-up for X reason and that he had been keeping tabs on Bruce all along just in case they needed the Batman to return. And as far as being beat up, they could have him explain how he expanded on the technology used on his knee and implemented it throughout his suit. It'd give him a way to contend with whatever threat was big enough to require the team up in the first place.

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I would be definitely be interested. Also I may be in the minority but I wouldn't mind Ryan Reynolds coming back as Green Lantern. The movie itself was bad but it wasn't because of him.

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I wouldn't mind Reynolds back as Lantern either. I'd almost prefer it because I don't want a Lantern reboot. Even though the movie wasn't great, they nailed Sinestro, and I want that to stay in the continuity.

As for what staple said, my problem with that is it would have to be reversed. Superman can't keep tabs on Bruce because 1) It would be Batman who finds out who Superman is, not the other way around, and 2) If it is Justice League Batman, he needs to be the master detective, strategist, and leader. It would be Batman keeping tabs on Supes and deciding that he needed help.

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Why does it need to be Batman that finds out who Superman is? I mean, I know he's master detective and all but if the timeline holds true, why would Bruce even be researching Superman?

I would be definitely be interested. Also I may be in the minority but I wouldn't mind Ryan Reynolds coming back as Green Lantern. The movie itself was bad but it wasn't because of him.

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I wouldn't mind Reynolds back as Lantern either. I'd almost prefer it because I don't want a Lantern reboot. Even though the movie wasn't great, they nailed Sinestro, and I want that to stay in the continuity.

As for what staple said, my problem with that is it would have to be reversed. Superman can't keep tabs on Bruce because 1) It would be Batman who finds out who Superman is, not the other way around, and 2) If it is Justice League Batman, he needs to be the master detective, strategist, and leader. It would be Batman keeping tabs on Supes and deciding that he needed help.

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Why does it need to be Batman that finds out who Superman is? I mean, I know he's master detective and all but if the timeline holds true, why would Bruce even be researching Superman?

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The very obvious answer to why Bruce would be researching Superman is because Superman's existence is a big freaking deal. Bruce would probably feel that someone needed to keep tabs on him.

It's a matter of personal preference, but I feel like Batman's only purpose on the league is as leader and strategist. Superman is always too distracted with details and specific people to save. It's always Bruce who is paranoid, covering every base and making a plan for everything that happens. That would include following supes around. He doesn't have to find out who he is, but he's watching. And in most continuities, that's generally how it goes. It's Batman that goes to Superman, not the other way around. Supes, in all of his infinite powers and abilities, has much bigger fish to fry before Batman comes along.

I wouldn't mind Reynolds back as Lantern either. I'd almost prefer it because I don't want a Lantern reboot. Even though the movie wasn't great, they nailed Sinestro, and I want that to stay in the continuity.

As for what staple said, my problem with that is it would have to be reversed. Superman can't keep tabs on Bruce because 1) It would be Batman who finds out who Superman is, not the other way around, and 2) If it is Justice League Batman, he needs to be the master detective, strategist, and leader. It would be Batman keeping tabs on Supes and deciding that he needed help.

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Why does it need to be Batman that finds out who Superman is? I mean, I know he's master detective and all but if the timeline holds true, why would Bruce even be researching Superman?

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The very obvious answer to why Bruce would be researching Superman is because Superman's existence is a big freaking deal. Bruce would probably feel that someone needed to keep tabs on him.

It's a matter of personal preference, but I feel like Batman's only purpose on the league is as leader and strategist. Superman is always too distracted with details and specific people to save. It's always Bruce who is paranoid, covering every base and making a plan for everything that happens. That would include following supes around. He doesn't have to find out who he is, but he's watching. And in most continuities, that's generally how it goes. It's Batman that goes to Superman, not the other way around. Supes, in all of his infinite powers and abilities, has much bigger fish to fry before Batman comes along.

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But you've got to remember, this isn't comic book over-paranoid Batman. I mean, it seems to me that lots of stuff happened right under his nose in TDK trilogy

Why does it need to be Batman that finds out who Superman is? I mean, I know he's master detective and all but if the timeline holds true, why would Bruce even be researching Superman?

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The very obvious answer to why Bruce would be researching Superman is because Superman's existence is a big freaking deal. Bruce would probably feel that someone needed to keep tabs on him.

It's a matter of personal preference, but I feel like Batman's only purpose on the league is as leader and strategist. Superman is always too distracted with details and specific people to save. It's always Bruce who is paranoid, covering every base and making a plan for everything that happens. That would include following supes around. He doesn't have to find out who he is, but he's watching. And in most continuities, that's generally how it goes. It's Batman that goes to Superman, not the other way around. Supes, in all of his infinite powers and abilities, has much bigger fish to fry before Batman comes along.

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But you've got to remember, this isn't comic book over-paranoid Batman. I mean, it seems to me that lots of stuff happened right under his nose in TDK trilogy

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I know, that's basically my problem with Bale being the League's Batman.

But especially true in the Nolanverse, WHY ON EARTH would Superman ever even ask for Batman's help? Aside from maybe good PR in Gotham (We have no idea how known or respected Batman is outside of there), why would Supes ever think that a beaten up old Batman could help his cause at all?

The only glitch I've experienced with Hearthfire so far was when I tried to adopt the kid working the mines in Dawnstar. He just stayed standing where I talked to him, so I had to reload a past save. The glitch was clearly warning me that this child was a daedra or something, so I decided not to do that again. Warnings from the glitch gods are the only warnings worth heeding.

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I've adopted two kids, the girl from the orphanage and the boy working at the farm outside of Solitude. They've come back to my house but they keep saying "I just need to get my things, I'll meet you at home." even though they are home. The children beds say "owned" so they clearly live there

The very obvious answer to why Bruce would be researching Superman is because Superman's existence is a big freaking deal. Bruce would probably feel that someone needed to keep tabs on him.

It's a matter of personal preference, but I feel like Batman's only purpose on the league is as leader and strategist. Superman is always too distracted with details and specific people to save. It's always Bruce who is paranoid, covering every base and making a plan for everything that happens. That would include following supes around. He doesn't have to find out who he is, but he's watching. And in most continuities, that's generally how it goes. It's Batman that goes to Superman, not the other way around. Supes, in all of his infinite powers and abilities, has much bigger fish to fry before Batman comes along.

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But you've got to remember, this isn't comic book over-paranoid Batman. I mean, it seems to me that lots of stuff happened right under his nose in TDK trilogy

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I know, that's basically my problem with Bale being the League's Batman.

But especially true in the Nolanverse, WHY ON EARTH would Superman ever even ask for Batman's help? Aside from maybe good PR in Gotham (We have no idea how known or respected Batman is outside of there), why would Supes ever think that a beaten up old Batman could help his cause at all?

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I'm pretty sure that Batman is well known after basically saving an entire city that was held hostage.

And it's hard to have this conversation before we see how Nolan interprets Superman.

I don't even know how many of you specifically care, but I just came across this little news blurb on comicvine, and I just wanted to share it.

"There was an early report that an early cut of Man of Steel was phenomenal. There is a lot riding on this movie not only as a lead in to a future franchise for Superman but also as the lead in for other DC characters and the attempt to bring the Justice League of America to the big screen. While there has been some recent worries over the script for the Justice League film, a new rumor may justify why the possible early draft of the script has been scrapped.

Latino Review is reporting that Christopher Nolan is now taking over the DC characters at Warner Bros. This gives him the final say in anything that is to be done on the big screen. This means that as with Man of Steel, he would be overseeing and producing the Justice League film. It's also reported that Zack Snyder would be a producer and possible the director for the Justice League.

But that's not all. They're also saying that this could lead to the return of Christian Bale as Batman. It might seem hard to swallow but Bale was quoted in an interview saying he would love the challenge of making a fourth movie work if Nolan came to him with a script and said there was another story to tell."

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Sounds like a bad idea to have Nolan and Bale on Justice League. Snyder could be fine though.

I don't even know how many of you specifically care, but I just came across this little news blurb on comicvine, and I just wanted to share it.

"There was an early report that an early cut of Man of Steel was phenomenal. There is a lot riding on this movie not only as a lead in to a future franchise for Superman but also as the lead in for other DC characters and the attempt to bring the Justice League of America to the big screen. While there has been some recent worries over the script for the Justice League film, a new rumor may justify why the possible early draft of the script has been scrapped.

Latino Review is reporting that Christopher Nolan is now taking over the DC characters at Warner Bros. This gives him the final say in anything that is to be done on the big screen. This means that as with Man of Steel, he would be overseeing and producing the Justice League film. It's also reported that Zack Snyder would be a producer and possible the director for the Justice League.

But that's not all. They're also saying that this could lead to the return of Christian Bale as Batman. It might seem hard to swallow but Bale was quoted in an interview saying he would love the challenge of making a fourth movie work if Nolan came to him with a script and said there was another story to tell."

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Sounds like a bad idea to have Nolan and Bale on Justice League. Snyder could be fine though.

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Off the bat, I'm not entirely behind the idea but lots of people felt the same way Heath Ledger as Joker. Nolan has a proven track record so I'm going to trust him until he gives me a reason not to.

@staple_gun Agreed on both counts. We need to see the new Superman, and I will reserve judgment of Nolan's work until I see it.

We also have to keep in mind, it's not like it is JUST Nolan working on this stuff. And I'm sure collectively they will find a way to work it all out rather than just be a continuation of The Dark Knight trilogy.

The only glitch I've experienced with Hearthfire so far was when I tried to adopt the kid working the mines in Dawnstar. He just stayed standing where I talked to him, so I had to reload a past save. The glitch was clearly warning me that this child was a daedra or something, so I decided not to do that again. Warnings from the glitch gods are the only warnings worth heeding.

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I've adopted two kids, the girl from the orphanage and the boy working at the farm outside of Solitude. They've come back to my house but they keep saying "I just need to get my things, I'll meet you at home." even though they are home. The children beds say "owned" so they clearly live there

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On the upside, at least I assume they're not pestering you for presents every time you come home.

As far as I can tell, though, the childrens' beds always say "owned". When I built the Lakeside house in Falkreath and put those in there, I wasn't married and had no kids but the beds still said "owned". Have either of them approached you upon entering the house since you've adopted them? I remember one of the kids I adopted from the orphanage was similarly bugged for a bit until I returned to the house at some point and he ran up to talk to me. After that, the dialogue options opened up.

Off the bat, I'm not entirely behind the idea but lots of people felt the same way Heath Ledger as Joker. Nolan has a proven track record so I'm going to trust him until he gives me a reason not to.

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I'll need to go back and read what you've said so far about it, but I'm not behind it since it I'm a little worried he'll try to make it too dark and realistic. Of course it might not be too realistic since he is the producer of Man of Steel IIRC. I also think Bale is the wrong choice for Justice League Batman.

Off the bat, I'm not entirely behind the idea but lots of people felt the same way Heath Ledger as Joker. Nolan has a proven track record so I'm going to trust him until he gives me a reason not to.

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I'll need to go back and read what you've said so far about it, but I'm not behind it since it I'm a little worried he'll try to make it too dark and realistic. Of course it might not be too realistic since he is the producer of Man of Steel IIRC. I also think Bale is the wrong choice for Justice League Batman.

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I would really MUCH MUCH prefer dark and realistic. I want the dynamic to be that Marvel and the Avengers are comic book movies, and DC has great movies that happen to be about comic books.

The only glitch I've experienced with Hearthfire so far was when I tried to adopt the kid working the mines in Dawnstar. He just stayed standing where I talked to him, so I had to reload a past save. The glitch was clearly warning me that this child was a daedra or something, so I decided not to do that again. Warnings from the glitch gods are the only warnings worth heeding.

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I've adopted two kids, the girl from the orphanage and the boy working at the farm outside of Solitude. They've come back to my house but they keep saying "I just need to get my things, I'll meet you at home." even though they are home. The children beds say "owned" so they clearly live there

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On the upside, at least I assume they're not pestering you for presents every time you come home.

As far as I can tell, though, the childrens' beds always say "owned". When I built the Lakeside house in Falkreath and put those in there, I wasn't married and had no kids but the beds still said "owned". Have either of them approached you upon entering the house since you've adopted them? I remember one of the kids I adopted from the orphanage was similarly bugged for a bit until I returned to the house at some point and he ran up to talk to me. After that, the dialogue options opened up.

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They're like never inside the house, they're always outside.

And you're a big-shot adventurer, a quest is like a business trip, of course you should have a present when you come home

Off the bat, I'm not entirely behind the idea but lots of people felt the same way Heath Ledger as Joker. Nolan has a proven track record so I'm going to trust him until he gives me a reason not to.

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I'll need to go back and read what you've said so far about it, but I'm not behind it since it I'm a little worried he'll try to make it too dark and realistic. Of course it might not be too realistic since he is the producer of Man of Steel IIRC. I also think Bale is the wrong choice for Justice League Batman.

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I would really MUCH MUCH prefer dark and realistic. I want the dynamic to be that Marvel and the Avengers are comic book movies, and DC has great movies that happen to be about comic books.

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Certain DC movies shouldn't be dark or too realistic. That was one of my problems with the GL movie, it was too dark but they tried adding in some fun elements anyways.

I think Justice League definitely should be, especially if Darkseid is the villain. Actually, most League villains are on the darker side. I think I'd most prefer a tone that is comparable to dramatic episodes of Young Justice.

Certain stand alone movies don't have to be dark, though, that's true. I don't think Aquaman or Flash should really be that dark.

In a slightly different topic, I don't know how I didn't think of this when Damian was killed...

I think Justice League definitely should be, especially if Darkseid is the villain. Actually, most League villains are on the darker side. I think I'd most prefer a tone that is comparable to dramatic episodes of Young Justice.

Certain stand alone movies don't have to be dark, though, that's true. I don't think Aquaman or Flash should really be that dark.

In a slightly different topic, I don't know how I didn't think of this when Damian was killed...

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A part of me wishes they wouldn't have brought Jason Todd back now. I love Red Hood but now if they bring Damien back as some uber evil guy, it won't have the same effect.

And you're a big-shot adventurer, a quest is like a business trip, of course you should have a present when you come home

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Hmm. Other than things you've probably already tried, I dunno what to suggest then. They do approach you outside sometimes, but I think that first time only happens inside the house. It might yet fix itself, but who knows with a Bethesda game.

But there's not a lot of opportunities for delving into ancient dwemer candy stores.

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So I've gotten to a point where I'm destroying people with my hammer and I just found out that I've had rock joint for who knows how long so I've only been doing 75% of the damage that I could be doing.

I can agree with you there that if Darkseid is the main villain then it should be dark.

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On that note, who do you guys think the villain will be? I can really only see Darkseid.

@staple_gun I kind of wanted him to stay dead just because I like people to stay dead. Doesn't mean anything if everyone comes back.

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Oh, I definitely agree. That's kind of what I'm saying. We've seen a Robin die and come back so I don't really care to see it happen to Damien.

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I feel like Damian was also such a polarizing character that it's really for the best for him to stay dead. Besides, you have that weird gray area as to whether or not he'd ever grow up or just be 10 forever.

On that note, who do you guys think the villain will be? I can really only see Darkseid.

@staple_gun I kind of wanted him to stay dead just because I like people to stay dead. Doesn't mean anything if everyone comes back.

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Oh, I definitely agree. That's kind of what I'm saying. We've seen a Robin die and come back so I don't really care to see it happen to Damien.

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I feel like Damian was also such a polarizing character that it's really for the best for him to stay dead. Besides, you have that weird gray area as to whether or not he'd ever grow up or just be 10 forever.

I just am curious as to what it means for the future of Robin.

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Bruce Wayne coming back kind of hurt Damien imo. For the longest time, Robin was the smart alec and Batman was the uber serious guy. When Damien came in and Nightwing took over as Batman, we kind of got a reversal of rolls that was very interesting to me. Damien being with Bruce was kind of too much serious.

Ugh, I hope not. Part of me hopes they'd re-situate Drake in the role and slightly redeem him...but I don't think that they're ever going to fix what they've done to him. Sad face...

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What if this made a new bond between Batman and Hood. With the way A Death of the Family ended as well as Damien dying, it could be an interesting dynamic for them to team up again for a while.

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Well, we know for a fact that his first two team ups are with Drake and Hood, so either are possible. But I rather like the whole misfits feel of the Outlaws. I'm all for him fixing his relationship with Batman, but keep him with the outlaws.

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So I've gotten to a point where I'm destroying people with my hammer and I just found out that I've had rock joint for who knows how long so I've only been doing 75% of the damage that I could be doing.

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Darn diseases have a way of sneaking in past the radar, especially since half the time you don't even notice you've contracted them and you're hardly ever all that aware you have one. I swear rockjoint's notorious for that 'cause of the crazy amount of wolves kicking about.

Reminds me that I nearly ended up a vampire again not long after curing myself. I had no idea I even had the disease that develops into it until some random Dawnguard guy mentioned I looked ill. They should give that guy a raise.

I'm actually against the current Outlaws team, I'd much rather have him with a darker team. He's probably the only character I prefer to be dark.

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But then where does Arsenal go?! Somebody think of Arsenal!

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Make him darker like his Young Justice character and keep him on the team, but kick off Starfire. She can go join the crew in Threshold.

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Well, to that park, hell yeah. I suppose Starfire would fit in fine with Threshold, though I don't much like the title. And that would leave the outlaws to be just Arsenal...I mean, I'm okay with an Arsenal solo, but I think he's more of a team character.

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So I've gotten to a point where I'm destroying people with my hammer and I just found out that I've had rock joint for who knows how long so I've only been doing 75% of the damage that I could be doing.

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Darn diseases have a way of sneaking in past the radar, especially since half the time you don't even notice you've contracted them and you're hardly ever all that aware you have one. I swear rockjoint's notorious for that 'cause of the crazy amount of wolves kicking about.

Reminds me that I nearly ended up a vampire again not long after curing myself. I had no idea I even had the disease that develops into it until some random Dawnguard guy mentioned I looked ill. They should give that guy a raise.

Make him darker like his Young Justice character and keep him on the team, but kick off Starfire. She can go join the crew in Threshold.

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Well, to that park, hell yeah. I suppose Starfire would fit in fine with Threshold, though I don't much like the title. And that would leave the outlaws to be just Arsenal...I mean, I'm okay with an Arsenal solo, but I think he's more of a team character.

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Add Kate Spencer.

Granted I don't know a ton about her, but I've talked this over with someone else and I've come to like the idea of her on a new Outlaws team.

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So I've gotten to a point where I'm destroying people with my hammer and I just found out that I've had rock joint for who knows how long so I've only been doing 75% of the damage that I could be doing.

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Darn diseases have a way of sneaking in past the radar, especially since half the time you don't even notice you've contracted them and you're hardly ever all that aware you have one. I swear rockjoint's notorious for that 'cause of the crazy amount of wolves kicking about.

Reminds me that I nearly ended up a vampire again not long after curing myself. I had no idea I even had the disease that develops into it until some random Dawnguard guy mentioned I looked ill. They should give that guy a raise.

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Have you been a Vampire Lord yet? I'm considering it.

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Last time I played, I went to the point where I turned to a vampire lord, and I chose not to, so I'd have a file that went in each direction. So what happens? He banishes me and I'm told to go back to Fort Dawngaurd to meet that guy. I show up, and EVERYONE attacks me. I can't talk to the mofo because he wants to kill me and won't die.

Darn diseases have a way of sneaking in past the radar, especially since half the time you don't even notice you've contracted them and you're hardly ever all that aware you have one. I swear rockjoint's notorious for that 'cause of the crazy amount of wolves kicking about.

Reminds me that I nearly ended up a vampire again not long after curing myself. I had no idea I even had the disease that develops into it until some random Dawnguard guy mentioned I looked ill. They should give that guy a raise.

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Have you been a Vampire Lord yet? I'm considering it.

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Last time I played, I went to the point where I turned to a vampire lord, and I chose not to, so I'd have a file that went in each direction. So what happens? He banishes me and I'm told to go back to Fort Dawngaurd to meet that guy. I show up, and EVERYONE attacks me. I can't talk to the mofo because he wants to kill me and won't die.

Last time I played, I went to the point where I turned to a vampire lord, and I chose not to, so I'd have a file that went in each direction. So what happens? He banishes me and I'm told to go back to Fort Dawngaurd to meet that guy. I show up, and EVERYONE attacks me. I can't talk to the mofo because he wants to kill me and won't die.