The notion of 'thousands of victims' was crucial to generate universal public outrage. However, having 3000 angry families breathing down their necks was never part of the perps' demented plan. Our ongoing analyses and investigations suggest that NO one died on 9/11.

*****************************************************************Strange. Wasn't David Angell's brother a Roman Catholic reverend?"Kenneth Anthony Angell (born August 3, 1930) is an American prelate of the Roman Catholic Church." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Anthony_Angell

*****************************************************************Strange. Wasn't David Angell's brother a Roman Catholic reverend?"Kenneth Anthony Angell (born August 3, 1930) is an American prelate of the Roman Catholic Church." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Anthony_Angell

The first link I clicked on from that site reveals official 9/11 perp/shill propaganda:

"What I think you need to point out to your audience is that this new fashionable atheism was, in large measure, spurred by the events of 9/11. This was an event of such monumental horror, filth, and savagery, that it made many people feel?and somewhat understandably?that religion just isn’t worth the price. Even if we recognize that, for many, religion turns the switches between hope and despair, empowerment and defeatism, possibility and limitations?even still, religion’s excesses are too heavy a burden when weighed against its many gains. That’s what I think underlies this new secularist bent. And quite honestly, I’m not sure there’s anything you can say that will dissuade someone who feels this way.

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Coming back to your assigned task of “What is Islam,” and the distinction between “moderate” and “extreme,” I think you have to acknowledge the reason this question is being raised at all is because there have been many recent terrorist acts in the name of Islam. Your audience no doubt recognizes that most Muslims aren’t terrorists so there’s no need to belabor that point. But I think there is a lingering question in many people’s minds (including my own)as to why it is that after nine years, there hasn’t been a more energetic and widespread outcry against terrorism by the Muslim community? I know some brave souls have spoken out and they are to be commended for their courage and goodwill. But what’s needed is a mass Islamic movement that proclaims anyone who commits an act of terror in God’s name goes to hell as straight as an arrow. If there were a widespread condemnation of terrorist acts within the Islamic world, I’ve no doubt we’d see far less of it. And one can only wonder why such a display of Muslim outrage against terrorism hasn’t been forthcoming. That is a question for Muslims to answer.

As to why it is that specifically the Western revealed religions are targeted, I think this has to do with our climate of political correctness. It won’t do to point out that it is only Muslims who today advocate extreme violence against innocents in the name of their religion. People want to lump recent acts of terrorism with events like the Crusades, the Holy Wars, and the Inquisitions, that occurred centuries ago. It doesn’t wash. The fact is the majority of recent violent actions, committed in the name of a specific religion, are Islamic. That’s the way it is and that’s the reason you were asked to give this talk. You can emphasize that the majority of Muslims are wonderful people and you are not in any way impugning them or their religion by noting that terrorist acts in the world today are committed by Muslims."

Apologies for wandering there Simon. Thanks for pointing again to the important fact you have found about the addresses of both the Angell Foundation and Metivta Org being one and the same. Very interesting indeed.

"It's not a matter of what is true that counts but a matter of what is perceived to be true." - Henry Kissinger

Perry S Oretzky seems to be a Los Angeles accountant. He also runs a blog with Richard Siegel. Hmmm. That name sounds familiar for some reason. I suppose there are more than one or two Rick Siegels, but still.

The guy who runs the Angell foundation is hanging out with Richard Siegel who is getting briefed by the former head of the Mossad on the nuclear threat from Iran. Kind of a small world, I guess. Go figure.

In our first two days, we spent a morning studying with Mellila Hellner and Menachem Lorberbaum at the Hartman Institute (more below)... followed by the afternoon at the new Yad Vashem... a strange juxtaposition, yet somehow appropriate and even comforting. And today we had a security briefing from Uzi Arad, former head of the Mossad, who warned in no uncertain terms about the mortal danger posed by Iran's development of nuclear capacity, followed by a tour of East Jerusalem with Arik Ascherman, the head of Rabbis for Human Rights, who warned about the moral danger posed by Israel's ignoring its responsibility to treat all of its inhabitants with respect and decency.

*****************************************************************Strange. Wasn't David Angell's brother a Roman Catholic reverend?"Kenneth Anthony Angell (born August 3, 1930) is an American prelate of the Roman Catholic Church." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Anthony_Angell

Now things are starting to get interesting, the only pic of Angell in Cheers, is from some dodgy looking Angell foundation site.

And as someone has said his head looks like it is floating, he's the only person in the photo without a neck. Also Angell is sitting in Ratz's chair (I think).I find it some what ironic that a pic of Angell appearing in Cheers does not feature Ratz.So if this pic is from an episode where Ratz walks in with Angell still sitting there, lets find this episode & pick it apart.(I can see Ratz entering from stage left saying "hey Angell get out of my Chair")

As to why it is that specifically the Western revealed religions are targeted, I think this has to do with our climate of political correctness. It won’t do to point out that it is only Muslims who today advocate extreme violence against innocents in the name of their religion.

:rolleyes:

Haaretz, 09.11.09:

Just weeks after the arrest of alleged Jewish terrorist, Yaakov Teitel, a West Bank rabbi on Monday released a book giving Jews permission to kill Gentiles who threaten Israel.

Rabbi Yitzhak Shapiro, who heads the Od Yosef Chai Yeshiva in the Yitzhar settlement, wrote in his book "The King's Torah" that even babies and children can be killed if they pose a threat to the nation.

Shapiro based the majority of his teachings on passages quoted from the Bible, to which he adds his opinions and beliefs.

"It is permissable to kill the Righteous among Nations even if they are not responsible for the threatening situation," he wrote, adding: "If we kill a Gentile who has sinned or has violated one of the seven commandments - because we care about the commandments - there is nothing wrong with the murder."

Several prominent rabbis, including Rabbi Yithak Ginzburg and Rabbi Yaakov Yosef, have recommended the book to their students and followers.

The photos here are worth downloading for those interested the fake victim propaganda.

I thought this one was particularly interesting. Were they trying to give some free advertising to SYMS or just teasing us with sims? [There is a SYMS store, it's just odd that it would merit inclusion in such a supposedly serious photograph. I'm not sure the perspective works, either. What is the black area at the top right of the photo, we're looking up, but what's holding up the SYMS building? are we in a doorway? where do you stand to take that shot? I'm not sure how the viewing area gets cut off like that.]

I didn't know that when you shine a spotlight into the sky that it gets all bright at the top like that, either. The lighting and halos look a wee bit tweaked, or um, crazily Photoshopped.

I wouldn't avoid certain paths and trails due to popular hypersensitivities There are instances in this complex investigation when one must use certain clues to connect the dots - without fear of offending any particular group; be this group defined by common ethnicity, profession, political leaning or nationality. Personally, I will follow any crumb trail which leads me to the goons. Call me a 'goon-basher' if you will - but I consider myself more of a 'sports referee' in the Grand Game of human deceit. Let's imagine we are at the Olympics : the athletes of the Nigerian and the Norwegian teams are caught cheating. Then they're both caught cheating again. And again and again. Well, as a referee, I'd just ask both teams to pack their bags and go home. Could anyone accuse me of being either a "racist/white supremacist" or a "racist/Norse-hater"? No. I'm just applying the rules of the game.

The one woman we can see appears to have a crude neck join pasting an unlikely head on her body. Look carefully at the left where the chain meets her neck. Ummm. She appears to be wearing a picture of her "niece" as a kind of ID badge. Really? Bringing along framed photographs is strange enough, but do we make ID badges out of our murdered nieces and nephews? I would guess that they photoshopped the vicsim picture onto the body of someone wearing a regular ID badge. They started to make some kind of "shadow" for her ID badge chain but then said, screw it, it's time for coffee. Look closely.