coeyagi:Mayostard: Glad to know that it's perfectly acceptable to maliciously destroy someone's property, then blog about it like you're some hero. biatch might have been annoying, but this guy comes off as a dick.

No, he doesn't. F*CK YOU, YOU STUPID WHORE AT THE PLAY. Everyone in 21st century America knows you DON'T do that sh*t, and you deserved to be ass-raped by concertina wire for the next 14 years for doing it.

I actually walked out of a Los Lobos concert because of the assbanana next to me taking a flash photo with his iPhone every 3 farking seconds. I've never wanted to beat someone senseless so much in my life.

skozlaw:Marcus Aurelius: They have to catch you first, don't they. I'd be curious to know if anyone has ever been busted with one.

Cell companies get involved with tracking illegal jammers too, not just the FCC. Your problem will come when people start complaining that their phones aren't working to Verizon or Sprint or whoever and they start putting two and two together and find out someone is walking around with a jamming device. From that point agents will start moving around with a detector and if you keep using it getting caught is a matter of when rather than if.

That said, unless you're using it a lot occasional drops would probably be written off as oddities.

You also have to bear in mind that as a jammer user you are, in fact, an even bigger dickhead than the person being jammed. The odds you're going to block legitimate traffic in non-restricted areas is very high. Not exactly on the side of the good and righteous if you're blocking one stupid kid from texting in a movie while you're also blocking 20 perfectly normal people from making legitimate, non-interrupting calls the offices two rooms over.

It looks like FCC enforcement is primarily against fixed locations and the sellers of the devices. Someone using a battery powered pocket jammer will be very hard to triangulate, since most of the units need a button held down in order to transmit their signal. And with only two enforcement actions listed in all of 2013, it's not like they're putting in a lot of effort.

phenn:I actually walked out of a Los Lobos concert because of the assbanana next to me taking a flash photo with his iPhone every 3 farking seconds. I've never wanted to beat someone senseless so much in my life.

skozlaw:Marcus Aurelius: They have to catch you first, don't they. I'd be curious to know if anyone has ever been busted with one.

Cell companies get involved with tracking illegal jammers too, not just the FCC. Your problem will come when people start complaining that their phones aren't working to Verizon or Sprint or whoever and they start putting two and two together and find out someone is walking around with a jamming device. From that point agents will start moving around with a detector and if you keep using it getting caught is a matter of when rather than if.

That said, unless you're using it a lot occasional drops would probably be written off as oddities.

You also have to bear in mind that as a jammer user you are, in fact, an even bigger dickhead than the person being jammed. The odds you're going to block legitimate traffic in non-restricted areas is very high. Not exactly on the side of the good and righteous if you're blocking one stupid kid from texting in a movie while you're also blocking 20 perfectly normal people from making legitimate, non-interrupting calls the offices two rooms over.

Portable jammer have a range from 6-70 feet in the open air with no walls. That drops conciderably when you enter a building and as the battery's charge is being drained, the range drops even further. Most folks have jammers that cover a 10-20 foot range with full batteries. Portable jammers normally are not going to be blocking a signal outside of the theater room they are in and sometimes will not cover the entire room.

The Permanent jammers, yeah, those would be blocking legit traffic as they can be tuned for even larger coverage and don't lose power over time (hooked up via an outlet).

Prank Call of Cthulhu:In before some self-important asshole shows up to explain why it's soooooo vitally important for physicians to have cell phones with them all the time in case there's an emergency, because apparently prior to the invention of the cell phone there was no way to get messages to people when they didn't carry their own phones and people were just keeling over dead left and right because of it.

If it's critical, you can set it to vibrate and excuse yourself when you check who it's from.

One of the jobs I applied for was lead engineer for the ambulance service. It might be nice to be able to get in touch with the people who can fix 911 and poison control if/when those services stop working.

I doubt the police much care, and unless someone is really abusing their jammer, I very much doubt the FCC is going to be called in for the once-in-a-blue-moon jamming that takes place for 1-2 hours at a movie theater in a small city in the mid-west.

The problem is entering the building as a first responder. It'll also jam the radios that the police and fire departments use, and those are used for trivial things like the "man down" alarms, evacuate signals, calls for backup.

What your'e suggesting is making a building most hazardous to enter when it's most likely to be full of people.

The problem isn't the phones, it's the users.

This isn't the image I was looking for. I wanted to find that musical score with the red notes superimposed on it and when you read it it's a ringtone. GIS for "this is not in the score" only turns up blocked sites at work.

Marcus Aurelius:Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Marcus Aurelius: sigdiamond2000: This is the first time in the history of the universe that the Hero tag is appropriate for an NRO writer.

Good catch. It's nice to know that even clinically insane people can act rationally every now and then.

Citation, please (details, no glittering generalities).

I have yet to see anything come out of the National Review that wasn't at least slightly delusional. I am afraid I smeared this person with a broad brush. But then again he did hurl the lady's cell phone across the room, so....

Ah ah ahhh. (wags finger) I requested no glittering generalities. You are simply restating what you originally said.

I was in a packed movie once on opening night and the guy next to me gets a call in the middle of the movie. This person did have his phone on vibrate, but he answered the call with a "Yo girl whats up." And then proceeded to talk with her. I could tell be the nature of the conversation that this was not an emergency situation so I leaned over and said "Your conversation during the movie is upsetting those around you could you please call her back later or leave the movie?" his reply was consistent with his intelligence and respect for others "Fark you mother Farker!" So I grabbed the phone out of his hand and dumped it into his fountain drink that was conveniently not covered by a lid, because he had removed the lid to pour cheap vodka in it. All those around me started clapping and thanking me which must have angered him even more, because he took a swing at me which I easily dodged. I grabbed his arm forced it behind and up his back walked him down the row and into the wall then down and out the emergency exit. When I turned around I think everyone was clapping and cheering. The theater was even nice enough to rewind the film to before his call. When the movie was over a group of people walked me to my car which was nice even though I was carrying a concealed weapon. He was waiting for me outside, but seeing all the people around me he turned around and walked away.

Bschott007:Most folks have jammers that cover a 10-20 foot range with full batteries. Portable jammers normally are not going to be blocking a signal outside of the theater room they are in and sometimes will not cover the entire room

Fubini:Marcus Aurelius: Is view those regulations as more of a guideline, especially considering how they were implemented with no real input from anyone except cell phone interests.

No, those regulations are designed so that everyone (the general public) is able to share in a public resource (the RF spectrum) that is accessible to only one person at a time.

You say "cell phone interests" like they're some sinister group. For sure, the telecoms make money off of the cell phone business, but so does everyone else. My grandfather has this great story where is car broke down on the middle of the interstate in bumfark nowhere and he ended up sleeping in his car overnight before someone found him. We couldn't have cell phones without some regulation of the RF spectrum, whether its self-imposed by the industry or imposed by the government.

And yeah, when you use a jammer you're declaring that you're more important than everyone else around you. You don't have to be a doctor to have an important phone call- it could be some guy's wife going into labor or someone's kid who got stuck at school, both are important enough to warrant immediate attention. I'm not excusing poor etiquette, but using a jammer negatively impacts that person who is being rude, but also everyone else who was polite enough to put their device on vibrate.

WTF are you doing in a play (or other non-cell friendly environment) if your wife is in labor or your kid is at school?

theMagni:If it's critical, you can set it to vibrate and excuse yourself when you check who it's from.

You'd think people could figure this out. But alas, such reasoning seems to be beyond so many mobile phone users. And unfortunately, the same folks who are unable to figure out how to silence the ringtones are the same ones who think that, because they can't actually see the person they're talking to, this means they must talk very, very loud so the person will hear them. Which is why you often have to hear conversations like, "HELLO? WHAT? YEAH? NO, I'M IN A MOVIE THEATER. I SAID I'M IN A THEATER. I'M WATCHING A MOVIE. YES A MOVIE. WHAT? IRON MAN. NO, IRON MAN. MAN. YEAH. IT'S A MOVIE. AT THE THEATER. NO IT HASN'T STARTED YET. WHAT? I SAID IT HASN'T STARTED. THE MOVIE. THE MOVIE HASN'T STARTED. I'M WAITING. I SAID I'M WAITING. NOT MUCH. NO, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE STARING AT ME. WHAT? STARING. THEY'RE STARING. NO, AT ME. NO I DON'T KNOW WHY."

Just Another OC Homeless Guy:Marcus Aurelius: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: Marcus Aurelius: sigdiamond2000: This is the first time in the history of the universe that the Hero tag is appropriate for an NRO writer.

Good catch. It's nice to know that even clinically insane people can act rationally every now and then.

Citation, please (details, no glittering generalities).

I have yet to see anything come out of the National Review that wasn't at least slightly delusional. I am afraid I smeared this person with a broad brush. But then again he did hurl the lady's cell phone across the room, so....

Ah ah ahhh. (wags finger) I requested no glittering generalities. You are simply restating what you originally said.

Dog Welder:kkinnison: So obviously the manager had no balls and couldn't control the rude behavior of guests taht were using cell phones when they were told not to

More and more I would like theaters to have cell phone jamming devices active during performances , or even giant Faraday cages

It's for this reason I really want to visit the Alamo Draft House to see a movie at some point. They tell you they have zero tolerance for this shiat, and they actually mean it. They will throw your ass out for using your cell phone during a movie.

Marcus Aurelius:skozlaw: you're also blocking 20 perfectly normal people from making legitimate, non-interrupting calls the offices two rooms over

I WISH my unit had that kind of range. We're talking about 25 feet max.

Your unit is probably one of the smaller, hand-held ones? I want one myself as my bigger unit is kinda hard to hide and warms up really fast. Sure it covers a larger area but the battery life is only ~90 minutes. The smallers ones jam a smaller area but you can get 120 minutes of use out of them if not more.

Do the jammers block 4G as well? So does it render a mobile phone completely useless or just calls and texting?

Depends on your jammer. You need to do your research (like anything else you would buy online) before making a purchase. Most sites will tell you a) What the range of the jammer is b) the expected battery life with continuous use c) the frequencies it will jam.

The jammer only blocks calls and texts but does not keep someone from using their phone's apps or other non-radio related features.

Yes they are and I disagree with their use in commercial environments (theaters, restaurants, etc.). Doctors and first responders need the ability to be reached for emergencies and jammers prevent that. Most intelligent people know to put their phones on mute when it's necessary so that makes the use of jammers pointless.

meanmutton:Mayostard: Glad to know that it's perfectly acceptable to maliciously destroy someone's property, then blog about it like you're some hero. biatch might have been annoying, but this guy comes off as a dick.

Profedius:I was in a packed movie once on opening night and the guy next to me gets a call in the middle of the movie. This person did have his phone on vibrate, but he answered the call with a "Yo girl whats up." And then proceeded to talk with her. I could tell be the nature of the conversation that this was not an emergency situation so I leaned over and said "Your conversation during the movie is upsetting those around you could you please call her back later or leave the movie?" his reply was consistent with his intelligence and respect for others "Fark you mother Farker!" So I grabbed the phone out of his hand and dumped it into his fountain drink that was conveniently not covered by a lid, because he had removed the lid to pour cheap vodka in it. All those around me started clapping and thanking me which must have angered him even more, because he took a swing at me which I easily dodged. I grabbed his arm forced it behind and up his back walked him down the row and into the wall then down and out the emergency exit. When I turned around I think everyone was clapping and cheering. The theater was even nice enough to rewind the film to before his call. When the movie was over a group of people walked me to my car which was nice even though I was carrying a concealed weapon. He was waiting for me outside, but seeing all the people around me he turned around and walked away.

Bschott007:I happen to have purchased one of the portable jammers online a few months ago.

CSB:

When Iron Man 3 premiered, it was a packed house. Got there an hour early just to make sure I got a good seat and the theater filled up real fast 10 minutes later. Looking around, I see at least half of the people in the theater were using their smartphones. A majority of those folks turn their brightness levels of their screens down which was a welcome relief....except this overweight lady sitting in the row in front of me and just two seats to the left. Her screen brightness is up on full and she is texting away..with the sound volume maxed.

So the pre-movie Marcus theater intro pops up and everyone puts away their phones, except this woman who puts down her phone but then picks it up to text right up to the start of the movie.

About 10 minutes in, she starts to text away again. Her husband doesn't say anything, he just puts up his right hand to shield his eyes from the light. I'm sick of it so I reach into my coat pocket (it was 40 degrees outside in my neck of the woods) and turn on my jammer.

Oh it was so nice to see this lady slapping her phone in frustration (as if that would help) as her signal was lost. She finally got out of her seat and walked (waddled?) out of the theater never to return back to the movie. I left the jammer on until the final scene played after the credits then turned it off and left.

I guess she figured that the theater was at fault as she was yelling at the movie theater manager (I assume it was the manager as he was wearing a business suit with a theater name badge pinned to his jacket. All the other employees were in white shirts, black pants, and black ties).

First time I every used my jammer in public and I certainly will use it when I go to Fast 6 and Star Trek this weekend.

/csb

I saw IM3 last weekend- right as the movie started, a burly (sounding) dude from the back of the theater shouts, "If I see one cell phone light up before the credits are OVER, I will personally jam that phone down your throat."

2/3rds of the theater erupted in applause. The other third looked annoyed.

But not a'one of 'em lit up. Had I seen who the dude was, I would have handed him a $10 and told him to buy a beer on me.

DirkValentine:WTF are you doing in a play (or other non-cell friendly environment) if your wife is in labor or your kid is at school?

For the first, I would imagine they didn't expect the wife to go into labor right then. Those things come out early sometimes. For the second, seriously? Did you actually just ask that? Really? You honestly can't figure out why a parent of a child would want to go somewhere they can't bring the child during the only time they can go somewhere they can't bring the child?

Bullseyed:Pretty sure using it in the way you imply here is a felony. Probably not likely to get caught though.

Kahabut:They are also terribly illegal. So you know... have fun with the FCC.

Are you a communications company with a license to worry about? Otherwise the FCC can suck it. Even if they have an enforcement jurisdiction here, they're too busy making sure poeple don't cause the apocalypse by accidentally broadcasting some random player's F-bomb during a football game to worry about John Q Public jamming phones from his hip pocket in a theatre. It's like the people I knoew growing up that used to be afraid to put linear amps on CB radios (300 watts of antenna-frying goodness, baby!) because they actually belived someone in authority would give a shiat enough to track them down.

And yes, he's legally in the wrong for destroying someone's property, however this amounts to the sort of misdemeanor that becomes a source of pride. Like folks who get arrested at demonstrations for trespassing or obstruction.

Not assault under New York law, its just Harassment. To be assault you need to cause physical injury or intense pain. A stinging cheek does not qualify as injury or intense pain (a nutshot would, not a slap), so he couldn't charge assault if he tried.

You're probably too stupid to understand, but the assault charges would be against the guy, not the girl. Self defense isn't illegal and property damage in the manner described is usually categorized as assault.

kiwimoogle84:I saw IM3 last weekend- right as the movie started, a burly (sounding) dude from the back of the theater shouts, "If I see one cell phone li ...

I saw IM3 last weekend- right as the movie started, a burly (sounding) dude from the back of the theater shouts, "If I see one cell phone light up before the credits are OVER, I will personally jam that phone down your throat."

2/3rds of the theater erupted in applause. The other third looked annoyed.

But not a'one of 'em lit up. Had I seen who the dude was, I would have handed him a $10 and told him to buy a beer on me.

/CSS

Please find that man. I must marry him. Or at least reward him in some way.

TNel:Marcus Aurelius: All valid points. I just happen to loathe cell phones with the passion of a millions suns. And I only bring the jammer to concerts and movies. If you really need to have a phone conversation during a show or a movie, you'll need to leave, or move at least six or seven rows away from me. Because my jammer said so.

I've never seen someone use a phone during a movie, before the movie I've seen it and I even play games on my phone before it starts but once the movie goes I'm more interested in the movie than the people around me so who really cares if someone is playing with their phone.

I have, and it's farking annoying as hell. Even "just" googling something? that screen lights up like a supernova, ffs.

Well, more power to you then, I suppose, but you're still just as big a self-important cock just as the people you're trying to stop.

The difference is that the self-important cock on the phone is distracting everyone else within eye or ear-shot while almost no one would realize that Marcus's jammer is in use. Most people wouldn't even realize it was a jammer and believe it to be bad reception or a glitch. I'll take a theatre full of folks like Marcus over a theater full of people using their smartphones during the movie.

TNel:the money is in the banana stand: Having an LED screen blind you during the performance is distracting. It is pretty hard to NOT look when you are in a dim theater and people insist on farking texting or using their phones while in the theater. If it is so farking important you have to do that RIGHT then, you should step out - or you shouldn't even farking be there in the first place if your phone is more interesting than what is going on. Girls are the worst about that. No matter where they are, or whose company they are in they get out their phones and dick around on it. Could you imagine how pissed in turn the ladies would be if us men decided to check ESPN scores, play some games, and NOT listen to what they have to say? Hah!

If you are sitting behind someone when they use the phone it will most likely be at their waist level when seated in a chair. You will not get blinded by that light. I am willing to be this lady was dragged to the theater and did not want to go that's why she was playing with the phone.

the money is in the banana stand: Tiered seating? IMAX? 3D? Anyone that farking pulls their phone out the screen lights up like Christmas and is insanely distracting.

Even with tiered seating the device is low enough that if you don't look down you would barely be able to tell, watch the movie/play.

Unless the chucklehead in questions decides he just HAS to hold his phone up in front of his big fat head.

Nogale:Just toward the end, a guy's cell phone started ringing and he wouldn't turn it off. Eventually, a guy sitting behind him jumped up and started hitting him!Don't generally condone violence, but it was satisfying to watch.

Profedius:I was in a packed movie once on opening night and the guy next to me gets a call in the middle of the movie. This person did have his phone on vibrate, but he answered the call with a "Yo girl whats up." And then proceeded to talk with her. I could tell be the nature of the conversation that this was not an emergency situation so I leaned over and said "Your conversation during the movie is upsetting those around you could you please call her back later or leave the movie?" his reply was consistent with his intelligence and respect for others "Fark you mother Farker!" So I grabbed the phone out of his hand and dumped it into his fountain drink that was conveniently not covered by a lid, because he had removed the lid to pour cheap vodka in it. All those around me started clapping and thanking me which must have angered him even more, because he took a swing at me which I easily dodged. I grabbed his arm forced it behind and up his back walked him down the row and into the wall then down and out the emergency exit. When I turned around I think everyone was clapping and cheering. The theater was even nice enough to rewind the film to before his call. When the movie was over a group of people walked me to my car which was nice even though I was carrying a concealed weapon. He was waiting for me outside, but seeing all the people around me he turned around and walked away.

The sad thing is that this your behavior was appropriate and the theater itself should have done exactly what you did, however, today that would end up in a lawsuit as well as the employee being hurt or worse. I would bet more citizens would do what you did also if it wasn't for fear that ghetto person x would retaliate or try to kill them. Sadly, the person you handled has more rights and is more protected than you and others. The likelihood they will reform is slim to none as they have gone through their entire life getting their way because they are louder than others and haven't been put in their place.

thurstonxhowell:DirkValentine: WTF are you doing in a play (or other non-cell friendly environment) if your wife is in labor or your kid is at school?

For the first, I would imagine they didn't expect the wife to go into labor right then. Those things come out early sometimes. For the second, seriously? Did you actually just ask that? Really? You honestly can't figure out why a parent of a child would want to go somewhere they can't bring the child during the only time they can go somewhere they can't bring the child?

I'm thinking if your wife is pregnant to the point of possibly going into labor you aren't out seeing plays? Aren't plays usually at night? In the evening after school is over? Yes, I know, after school band/sports practice, but that's not all the time, every night. Also, it wasn't go "somewhere", we are talking about a fixed time event that people know not to be using their cell phone during.

SuperNinjaToad:DubyaHater: Could someone specify the race and gender of the cellphone user? I have an idea, but I'd like confirmation

If this had been anywhere else I would probably have unwittingly agreed on your implied racist post but as this happened in NYC it's actually fair game. Could very well be a blond blue eyed socialite and her equally rude friends.

It was a play, not a movie theater showing Tyler Perry films. I'm fairly sure the audience was all white.

On the AMTRAK quite car one time some biatch is yapping behind me for about 20 minutes. If it was a short phone call, no problem. If it was a whispered phone call, no problem. But this biatch had her volume set to 11. So I take out my phone, set a ring tone so it sounds like it is rininging pick it up and say, "Hi, listen I can't talk right now, I am in the quiet car, besided the coont behind me is yelling in her phone so I couldn't hear you anyway, I will call you back later".

TNel:Cold_Sassy: kronicfeld: Good lick with the inevitable assault charges.

Hey, SHE slapped him, so if anybody gets charged it should be her.

You think a judge will give someone time or a fine for a slap? What about destroying a $500 phone? If I was her I would still sue and take the chance of this pussy filling a charge on a girl slapping him for breaking her phone.

FTFA "It looked like she was Googling or something," Williamson tells us. "So I leaned over and told her it was distracting and told her to put it away.She responded, 'So don't look.' "

Seriously just don't watch someone use their phone, I bet the phone was on silent since he would have stated how loud it was. I would have pressed charges.

Dark room, bright LCD screen, it's distracting if it's in your line of site regardless if you're trying to look at it or not....