Quotes of the day

posted at 10:43 pm on May 14, 2012 by Allahpundit

Mr. Obama’s declaration last week that he supports same-sex marriage prompted ministers around the country to take to their pulpits on Sunday and preach on the issue. But in the clash over homosexuality, the battle lines do not simply pit ministers against secular advocates for gay rights. Religion is on both sides in this conflict. The battle is actually church versus church, minister versus minister, and Scripture versus Scripture…

On Sunday, after Pastor Wooden quieted the standing ovation in his sanctuary in Raleigh, a sea of pink hats and dresses in honor of Mother’s Day, he went into a sermon that portrayed the fight for the same-sex marriage amendment as a divinely ordained cause.

Quoting from Exodus, he said God had led people to the polls with a “high hand,” just as God led the Israelites out of Egypt. Mr. Obama went “against God,” the pastor said. He invoked the New Testament passage from Romans in which men turn away from women and burn in their lust, “men with men.”…

“The only thing that has changed in the church since the first century is who is considered ‘us,’ and who is considered ‘them,’” [Pastor Schneider] said. “The essential issue is the same: We aren’t sure ‘they’ belong with God at all. When I was young, a pastor said, whenever you draw a line between us and them, bear in mind that Jesus is on the other side of that line.”

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“I, like the president, have evolved to a point of marriage equality,” Clyburn said in an interview on MSNBC. “I have not always been there. I grew up in a parsonage, a fundamentalist Christian parsonage, and I grew up with that indoctrination. And I have grown to the point that I believe that we have evolved to marriage equality.”…

“I will remind you that in my lifetime, it was illegal in some states — this state, one of them — for black and white couples to get married,” he said. “I think that we have seen in many churches that call themselves fundamentalist and Christian teach a theological tolerance of slavery and servitude.”

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In Atlanta, at the historic Ebenezer Baptist Church – where Martin Luther King Jr. got his start – the Rev. Ralph Warnock addressed the president’s remarks near the end of his sermon.

Black pastors who preach in favor of same-sex marriage know they may pay a price if they take Obama’s position, says Bishop Carlton Pearson.

The Chicago-based black minister says he lost his church building and about 6,000 members when he began preaching that gays and lesbians were accepted by God.

“That’s the risk that people take,” he told CNN. “A lot of preachers actually don’t have a theological issue. It’s a business decision. They can’t afford to lose their parishioners and their parsonages and salaries.”

“No. 1 for me is the morals of this country,” said Wallingford, who believes his friends and neighbors will feel the same. “He (Obama) just lost this county. There’s no way.”…

In the end, though, these Democrats and Republicans in a swing county of a swing state found one more point of agreement. As glasses were drained and dinner plans made, they had a final chance to reflect on what they all thought would, in the end, make the difference on Election Day. To them. To Ohio. And, maybe even, to the nation.

They offered up a two-word response, and it had nothing to do with the news of the past week but rather the issue of the times.

Almost in unison they said: “The economy.”

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Pat Robertson offered a tepid hint at an endorsement after the interview, reminding his viewers that Romney is their best option.

“It looks like the people who were worried about his Mormonism, at least that crowd is diminishing somewhat,” Robertson said. “The question is, if you have two candidates, you don’t have Jesus running against someone else. You have Obama running against Romney.”

“This is the heart of the cultural war, Megyn, it is the fundamental beliefs … in Christianity, in scripture and tradition, and all those ideas of right and wrong against a new secularist idea which is quite militant, no doubt gaining in strength. That is the root of the culture war. It’s just like abortion. Is it okay, I mean is that a progressive move or is that the killing of an unborn child. These are the things that are really dividing the country and they’re going to continue. I didn’t declare it a culture war, we just admitted it was there.”

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You can love anyone you want, you can live with anyone you want; but granting same sex marriage is not natural and neither is it a right. I have nothing against gays, but nature is nature, we are gender specific for a reason. To deny that is to deny your future. A society cannot survive without procreation, and same sexes do not procreate. Of course you can argue about adoption and surrogacy, but that’s not the same thing no matter how you dress that up.

I have two ex-best-friends from whom I drifted apart, as we got older, because I realized how childish and inconsiderate they were – (both were lifer Democrats, 0bama voters and champion mooches, as well).

The last time we were all together, we were eating a late dinner in a quiet restaurant on the outskirts of Vegas, where one of them lives.

For whatever reason, the two started talking about some subject with loads of profanity and graphic sexual practices, and they were using their outside voices.

The only other people in the small side room we occupied were an elderly couple, probably around 80, quietly eating dinner at a table 10 feet away.

I asked my friends to tone it down, out of consideration. One of them asked what my problem was, and called me “uptight.” The other then said, it’s a free country, and I can say anything I want!

He began calling out to the room, “VAGINA! VAGINA! VAGINA! VAGINA!,” VERY loudly, his voice echoing off the walls.

I quietly told him that he was a selfish a$$hole.

After that trip, I never hung out with either of those friends again, after a 30+ year friendship.

I have two ex-best-friends from whom I drifted apart, as we got older, because I realized how childish and inconsiderate they were – (both were lifer Democrats, 0bama voters and champion mooches, as well).

The last time we were all together, we were eating a late dinner in a quiet restaurant on the outskirts of Vegas, where one of them lives.

For whatever reason, the two started talking about some subject with loads of profanity and graphic sexual practices, and they were using their outside voices.

The only other people in the small side room we occupied were an elderly couple, probably around 80, quietly eating dinner at a table 10 feet away.

I asked my friends to tone it down, out of consideration. One of them asked what my problem was, and called me “uptight.” The other then said, it’s a free country, and I can say anything I want!

He began calling out to the room, “VAG***! VAG***! VAG***! VAG***!,” VERY loudly, his voice echoing off the walls.

I quietly told him that he was a selfish a$$hole.

After that trip, I never hung out with either of those friends again, after a 30+ year friendship.

Is Clyburn………….. ah screw it. I’m sick of this false scenario. Men and Women are different. Why can’t we enjoy that fact? One man, one woman. Correct me if I’m wrong, but marriage is to protect the offspring created by man and woman. Can’t we leave at least one tradition intact?

Is Clyburn………….. ah screw it. I’m sick of this false scenario. Men and Women are different. Why can’t we enjoy that fact? One man, one woman. Correct me if I’m wrong, but marriage is to protect the offspring created by man and woman. Can’t we leave at least one tradition intact?

This is stupid. Of course God loves gays. Why on earth would God not love gays. If you are religious, didn’t God create gays? God created many things folks don’t like individually. I’m sure everyone here can name a few things they don’t like that God created. God must like them.

I’m trying listens2glenn, I just think that there are some other issues out there we should be talking about. This one is talked out. Its making me cranky. I have no problem with gays. Its just one QOTD too many on it. ; )

I’m trying listens2glenn, I just think that there are some other issues out there we should be talking about. This one is talked out. Its making me cranky. I have no problem with gays. Its just one QOTD too many on it. ; )

Bmore on May 14, 2012 at 11:50 PM

Yeah, we could be discussing all that crony money going to Chicago, but, we’re still stuck on this distraction. I feel your pain.

This is stupid. Of course God loves gays. Why on earth would God not love gays. If you are religious, didn’t God create gays? God created many things folks don’t like individually. I’m sure everyone here can name a few things they don’t like that God created. God must like them.

Bmore on May 14, 2012 at 11:45 PM

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God loves gays/lesbians/homosexuals because they are PEOPLE. There are no people he doesn’t love.

But I’m telling you, the God of the Bible didn’t create ANYONE that way. This entire current worldly/earthly environment we live in, is not the way God created it.
Perversion exists in many forms and sub-categories; ALL of it due to the First Adam’s sin.

President War-on-America is just continuing the theme that peeps like Madeline Albright have been espousing for years……that America shouldn’t be the worlds only Superpower.

….Ssoooooooo, in keeping with that theme, he’s declared war on Unborn women, war on job creators, war on the coal industry, war on Wall Street, War on Sheriff Joe, War on North Carolina, war on Great Britain over the Falklands, war on Israel over its’ refusal to live in the pre 1967 borders, war on pipeline builders, war on States like Arizona over just trying to seal the borders that he claims are “mostly fenced”, he’s declared War on Mitt donors, he’s had the IRS declare war on Tea Parties, he’s had his minions like Think Progress, Color for Change, Media Matters etc stage boycotts to drive folks that oppose him like Beck and Limbaugh to the fringe advertisers. He’s declared War on those that oppose him in Congress, he’s had the Ag Department declare War on families that Farm, he’s declared War on Catholic hospitals……..and I could go on and on.

He’s the DOTUS and more affectionately known here in Possum Holler as the Chicken that Woosted on America (thank you Rev Wright).

My feeling is that we should all be treated equally under the law. One should be able to leave their estate, or any benefits, to a member of one’s family regardless of the type of sex they engage in. So, if we’re going to talk sex on this blog 24 hours a day like we have been recently, I’ll do it my way.

jaime on May 14, 2012 at 11:25 PM

If I’m not mistaken, that is why people have wills. All people can make out wills. It’s allowed. By benefits, do you mean survivor Social Security payments? Is that what this is all about?

Estate taxes, survivor benefits, and the like. They were originally put in place to make sure dependent children were taken care of. But if they are extended to people who engage in certain types of sex, why not everyone?

“I, like the president, have evolved to a point of marriage equality,” Clyburn said in an interview on MSNBC. “I have not always been there. I grew up in a parsonage, a fundamentalist Christian parsonage, and I grew up with that indoctrination. And I have grown to the point that I believe that we have evolved to marriage equality.”…

Possum Holler translation:

It’s much easier to accept the dissolution of thousands of years of human history that “marriage” means a man and a woman when you’ve done like I’ve done and soaked yourself in the blood of the unborn by supporting vigorously the murder of tens of thousands of children in my own black community. Once I did that (and was allowed to enter the Progressive Temple of political power I could accept a lot of things that seemed offensive before.

Estate taxes, survivor benefits, and the like. They were originally put in place to make sure dependent children were taken care of. But if they are extended to people who engage in certain types of sex, why not everyone?

jaime on May 15, 2012 at 12:04 AM

I guess I’m not getting your point. Estate taxes were put in place to take care of dependent children so gay marriage whould be allowed? Having inherited some property , I can assure you the estate taxes were not intended to protect anyone’s children. Not seeing the logic here.

President War-on-America is just continuing the theme that peeps like Madeline Albright have been espousing for years……that America shouldn’t be the worlds only Superpower.

….Ssoooooooo, in keeping with that theme, he’s declared war on Unborn women, war on job creators, war on the coal industry, war on Wall Street, War on Sheriff Joe, War on North Carolina, war on Great Britain over the Falklands, war on Israel over its’ refusal to live in the pre 1967 borders, war on pipeline builders, war on States like Arizona over just trying to seal the borders that he claims are “mostly fenced”, he’s declared War on Mitt donors, he’s had the IRS declare war on Tea Parties, he’s had his minions like Think Progress, Color for Change, Media Matters etc stage boycotts to drive folks that oppose him like Beck and Limbaugh to the fringe advertisers. He’s declared War on those that oppose him in Congress, he’s had the Ag Department declare War on families that Farm, he’s declared War on Catholic hospitals……..and I could go on and on.

PappyD61 on May 14, 2012 at 11:59 PM

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All of the top leadership in the Democrat party are aiding and abetting the One World Government agenda (and some Republicans too, I’m sure).
The U.S. is THE only thing standing in their way.
Everything they do is centered around disabling the U.S. (actually, getting us to disable ourselves), so that America can be “absorbed” with little fight.

This is stupid. Of course God loves gays. Why on earth would God not love gays. If you are religious, didn’t God create gays? God created many things folks don’t like individually. I’m sure everyone here can name a few things they don’t like that God created. God must like them.

Bmore on May 14, 2012 at 11:45 PM

God also loves/loved Hitler. It doesn’t mean we have to accept Hitler’s acts or change society to accommodate him.

This is stupid. Of course God loves gays. Why on earth would God not love gays. If you are religious, didn’t God create gays? God created many things folks don’t like individually. I’m sure everyone here can name a few things they don’t like that God created. God must like them.

Bmore on May 14, 2012 at 11:45 PM

God also loves/loved Hitler. It doesn’t mean we have to accept Hitler’s acts or change society to accommodate him.

Nutstuyu on May 15, 2012 at 12:22 AM

Wait. So,you’re equating gays with Hitler now. This has finally come full circle.. We can now move on to another distraction.
My gays friends have never killed a Jew or invaded a country.

This is stupid. Of course God loves gays. Why on earth would God not love gays. If you are religious, didn’t God create gays?

Bmore on May 14, 2012 at 11:45 PM

I agree, to a degree but that can be said about all mankind, not just gays.. we are all sinners in need of a savior

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
1 Cor 6:9-11

This is stupid. Of course God loves gays. Why on earth would God not love gays. If you are religious, didn’t God create gays? God created many things folks don’t like individually. I’m sure everyone here can name a few things they don’t like that God created. God must like them.

Bmore on May 14, 2012 at 11:45 PM

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God also loves/loved Hitler. It doesn’t mean we have to accept Hitler’s acts or change society to accommodate him.

Video 2 Just imagine if I had said that. Crissy is a terrible interviewer, he badgers trying to get folks to say what he wants them to say. He isn’t interested in what they really have to say. I don’t watch him so this is a little new to me. He is terrible.