Oh, this is absolutely horrifying. To think struggling families will have to pay
even more to the incompetent and corrupt powers that be. Well, I guess someone
has to pay for things like the AIG-GM-Solyndra debauchery.

Don't worry, you cen elect mittney. He'll do to GM and the FDA what
he's going to do to big bird, just as long as you keep a tax break. After
all, we're an entitlement society and the biggest entitlement these days is
that taxes are modeled on the dim sum concept. We only select and pay for what
benefits each of us as taxpaying individuals, and everyone else is a mooch.

its not going to be painless for the U.S. to stop deficit spending and to start
to work to pay off the national debt. Repubs and Democrats alike give lip
service to the national debt while just continuing to further kick the can down
the road. Just to get back to even without even paying off any of the debt is
going to take huge changes, yet Romney says he wouldn't cut defense
spending, not even a little. Americans in general don't want to hear the
cold hard truth about the huge danger of out national debt and politicians on
both sides are very eager to oblige the Americans.

"Americans in general don't want to hear
the cold hard truth about the huge danger of out national debt and politicians
on both sides are very eager to oblige the Americans."

I hope you
are wrong. Most Americans were opposed to the bank bailouts. Most were opposed
to bailing out GM. I think Americans in general are tired of elected officials,
in direct defiance of the will of their constituents, giving hard earned
taxpayer money (or borrowing that money from China and Japan) to special
interests keeping them in power.

Government paying for PBS programs (including big bird) is just a symbol of all
the programs the government is paying for that it should not be! If we want to
save our economy we must cut federal spending and end wasting money on Solynda
loans, funding GSA parties, and reduce or eliminate unnecessary the federal
government departments of energy, US fish and wildlife, education, the EPA and
many others and turn these tasks over to the state where they belong. Washington
DC needs to look like a ghost town compared to the money sink hole it is today!

Try this - take all the money the federal government
spends on PBS, and spent on Solyndra and GSA parties, and add them all together
and tell us what percent of total federal spending they represent. Let me know
if you succeed in getting up to one half of one percent.

You
don't like the Fish & Wildlife service, or the EPA, or the DOE? So
you're saying you're OK with poisoning our air, land and water?

Oh, you say you're going to have the states take care of this?

You think they'll do all that for free? State taxes won't
have to be raised to pay for services previously provided by the feds? You
think fifty separate EPA's and fifty DOE's will be better than just
one?

Why do I feel like I'm standing on a school playground watching children
hurl taunts at one another? This thread is simply ridiculous with all the
nonsensical blather being bantered about. It will be a good thing when this
election is over!

As for those who claim a university education and
can't develope a coherent argument, were you asleep for four years (or
however many it took)? Simplistic insults don't go far in convincing
others that your position has merit. It only denigrates yourself as someone
without intelligence.

The Bush Tax Cuts were "temporary" and were suppose to expire two years
ago. Now is the time to let them expire. This NOT a tax increase. Congress
should do its job and protect the people who voted them in to office and not the
special interest who seem to control it.

@ mad hatter - maybe you have been reading the wrong thread. This thread has
been full of few insults and actual policy discussion and has minimal political
rhetoric. Arguments have for the most part been quite coherent although not
perfectly developed because this is a newspaper thread and there's not
enough space for extensive argument support. Also in this thread not a single
claim has been made about the level of education the commenters have. Maybe you
should form some thoughts about the national debt and participate in the
discussion instead of acting as thread monitor handing out citations that you
have imagined.

Barack Obama has gotten us $5 trillion more in debt than when
he took office. Yes, I blame PBS, Solyndra, and the GSA. Yes I blame the Fish
and Wildlife, DOE and the EPA. Yes, I blame countless other special interests
you have failed to mention. No one can really know where all of that money went.
We are headed towards bankruptcy. It shouldn't cost $5 trillion dollars to
clean the water and air. Smells to me like corruption, inefficiency and
incompetence. Given the fact that we are well over $15 trillion in debt and
counting, I say no more PBS, no more Solyndras, no more Fish and Wildlife, and
on and on down the line of backscratching special interests looking for a
handout.

If we have a trillion dollar deficit and you're demanding to pay even
less in taxes than currently... then yes, you're looking for a handout
because as far as the budget is considered, less revenue and more spending both
increase the deficit. There is no functional budgetary difference as far as the
deficit is considered between paying 1,000 in taxes and looking for a 250 dollar
program for yourself and wanting to pay only 750 in taxes instead of 1,000.
Either way you're passing on a 250 dollar bill to future generations. I
don't think they care if the deficit they're being handed was called a
tax cut or a spending program, they just want you to get it under control.

"Try this - take all the money the federal government
spends on PBS, and spent on Solyndra and GSA parties, and add them all together
and tell us what percent of total federal spending they represent. Let me know
if you succeed in getting up to one half of one percent."

Yeah,
unfortunately, the Dems say this about everything. "It won't even put a
dent in the overall deficit." And then they just keep spending like there is
not tomorrow. The logic is "It won't reduce the deficit completely;
therefore, don't cut spending anywhere." Brilliant.

We have
to start somewhere, whether or not it solves the entire problem. And it is only
common sense to start with non-essentials.

At 16 trillion in debt, we are all going to have to pay more! Reduced spending
is nice, but that will only eliminate a very small portion of the deficeit. We
have to generate additional revenue and tax cuts have not worked and will not
work! How many times do we have to go down this path to realize this? Looks like
one more if Mitt gets elected and thinks trickle down is the answer like all of
those before him!