The Gnome Project released version 2.12 yesterday. We had a quick look at it by using the latest Gnome Live CD (1.12-pre) and Foresight 0.9.0 (2.12 final) and here are our thoughts over 2.12 and Gnome's status in general.

you just believe users think like you, and if they don't, it's because they're wrong

I wonder how you came to this conclusion, when all I say was that looking at users, what has been decided is enough, and there are ways to add more functionalities for those who wants, and finally, I don't mind if more functionality is added.

I tend to see these discussions as trolls because I think most users are in one of these two categories :
- those who use a distro to obtain Gnome. These people never get the stock Gnome, so have no point in whining here, especially since the distros will most likely include a more complete menu editor, and you should complain to them.
- those who build the stock Gnome themselves. These people, like me, have the power and knowledge to at least add Smeg to their desktop, so I don't understand their complaint.

The newbie is always in the first case, so what is the point of all this whining really ?
Smeg developers could complain to Gnome devs, but why other people complain too ?