If Gillis cant get anything decent for Luongo, keep him till the off-season. Shneider is still capable of shitting the bed as we all saw early in the season. I've got no problem with Lou on the bench as insurance.

ukcanuck wrote:Don't be so negative nancy boy, who knows what Tallon will do. He might decide that the Edmonton model of not trading draft picks and keeping a stable full of youngsters with no veteran presence is not the best way to go...

You totally underestimate luongo's worth and you buy into Burkes kool aid over Luongo's contract way too easily... Either that or you want to be right so bad you are willing to throw away the truth like a used Big Mac box

At least you got one thing going for you Ass Bandit, You are fantastic Comedy. Take a look around outside of your soap box here at the CC, it's common knowledge (it ain't just me) that Gillis will not get what he wants for Lou, and if you think he can land Tallon's first round pick you are as delusional as Gillis is. But hey, whatever blows your hair back.

I like Florida's future much more than the Oilers if they can add one of Jones, Drouin, McKinnon, Nichuskin, Nurse, Barkov, Monohan, Lindholm to Huberdeau, Bjugstad, Shore, Howden, Gudbranson, Kulikov, Petrovic and Markstrom. That is a nice looking future and Tallon, I am quite sure, knows this and most likely, if you are a betting man, will not want to fuck with it, just add to it. Capiche?

I admit, I'm surprised by the Oilers suckness. I know it's early but not so sure about the mix there. Apparently Yak isn't meshing to well with the group in the dressing room and RNH is looking rough, I bet they now wish they drafted Galchenyuk and Landeskog instead. The Russkies are gambles to draft, sometimes you win, ie Galchenyuk or Tarasenko, sometimes you lose - Yak.

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ukcanuck wrote:Don't be so negative nancy boy, who knows what Tallon will do. He might decide that the Edmonton model of not trading draft picks and keeping a stable full of youngsters with no veteran presence is not the best way to go...

You totally underestimate luongo's worth and you buy into Burkes kool aid over Luongo's contract way too easily... Either that or you want to be right so bad you are willing to throw away the truth like a used Big Mac box

At least you got one thing going for you Ass Bandit, You are fantastic Comedy. Take a look around outside of your soap box here at the CC, it's common knowledge (it ain't just me) that Gillis will not get what he wants for Lou, and if you think he can land Tallon's first round pick you are as delusional as Gillis is. But hey, whatever blows your hair back.

I like Florida's future much more than the Oilers if they can add one of Jones, Drouin, McKinnon, Nichuskin, Nurse, Barkov, Monohan, Lindholm to Huberdeau, Bjugstad, Shore, Howden, Gudbranson, Kulikov, Petrovic and Markstrom. That is a nice looking future and Tallon, I am quite sure, knows this and most likely, if you are a betting man, will not want to fuck with it, just add to it. Capiche?

I admit, I'm surprised by the Oilers suckness. I know it's early but not so sure about the mix there. Apparently Yak isn't meshing to well with the group in the dressing room and RNH is looking rough, I bet they now wish they drafted Galchenyuk and Landeskog instead. The Russkies are gambles to draft, sometimes you win, ie Galchenyuk or Tarasenko, sometimes you lose - Yak.

FirstOffJust to review, I said "maybe" Florida could be convinced to trade a draft position with the Canucks to include Luongo...That's quite a bit different than what you think I said....

Also I agree that the inactivity right now makes it look like the return for Luongo isn't going to be a home run.

However,I am not sure its wise to trade Luongo by the deadline anyway. U think we could use him in the playoffs for when Cory gets shelled or hurt...

Plus and more to the point I think that if (when ) we don't win the cup this year its time to reload anyway. If the Sedins got 5 years left as front line players, now is the time to draft their replacements in order to develop them.

I think Luongo and Raymond are good staring points to get those picks...

As for why Florida would do something like that, why not? As you say they got a bunch if young players like Edmonton and they probably need exactly the same thing as the coilers...Goaltending, and some guys who can shave...

Edit: my plan would work best if the panthers ended up with like the third pick as only a fool would pass up on basketball jones in a Miami....

When you look at the top 5 in this upcoming draft, I don't see why Gillis doesn't just see if Florida will take Luongo in exchange for their 1st and a middle of the road prospect. Or even if there is some term coming back, do it. The chance to potentially get on of the top 5, and with Florida this year it could be top 2 or 3, if not the 1st overall. That is a helluva return for Louie.

1/3 of the player payroll not playing .. Kesler n Booth injured.. Maholtra benched..Ballard n Lou waiting .. FFS do something Gillis.. or maybe don't? just read the "Help Wanted".. Aquaman is watching you !! is he calling Iron Mike? Damm this soap opera has gone on way to long.. Luongo's value decreases the longer Gillis waits. Ballard should be traded instead of bought out.. Get what you can NOW..

Tiger wrote:1/3 of the player payroll not playing .. Kesler n Booth injured.. Maholtra benched..Ballard n Lou waiting .. FFS do something Gillis.. or maybe don't? just read the "Help Wanted".. Aquaman is watching you !! is he calling Iron Mike? Damm this soap opera has gone on way to long.. Luongo's value decreases the longer Gillis waits. Ballard should be traded instead of bought out.. Get what you can NOW..

I dont get it. I like the idea of going into the playoffs with Lou as a back-up and Ballard as a winger. You wont get anything for Ballard.What do you care if Ballard is bought out or not? Its not your money its Aquamans.

[quote="Meds"]When you look at the top 5 in this upcoming draft, I don't see why Gillis doesn't just see if Florida will take Luongo in exchange for their 1st and a middle of the road prospect. Or even if there is some term coming back, do it. The chance to potentially get on of the top 5, and with Florida this year it could be top 2 or 3, if not the 1st overall. That is a helluva return for Louie.[/quote] He has. Florida isn't going to do that.

Meds wrote:When you look at the top 5 in this upcoming draft, I don't see why Gillis doesn't just see if Florida will take Luongo in exchange for their 1st and a middle of the road prospect. Or even if there is some term coming back, do it. The chance to potentially get on of the top 5, and with Florida this year it could be top 2 or 3, if not the 1st overall. That is a helluva return for Louie.

Meds, are you sure you are not ukcanuck? Anyhow, this is the kind of posting a glue sniffer would post.

"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? - Plastics." - The Graduate

Meds wrote:When you look at the top 5 in this upcoming draft, I don't see why Gillis doesn't just see if Florida will take Luongo in exchange for their 1st and a middle of the road prospect. Or even if there is some term coming back, do it. The chance to potentially get on of the top 5, and with Florida this year it could be top 2 or 3, if not the 1st overall. That is a helluva return for Louie.

He has. Florida isn't going to do that.

I don't think he has. I think he's asked for one of their top prospects, a serviceable center, and a pick.

Right now I think Gillis is sitting on Luongo still because he has been asking for the moon.

If Douglas Murray gets a pair of 2nd round picks, Brendan Morrow gets the best prospect in Pittsburgh's system and a draft pick, and Jarome Iginla gets a 1st and 2 "B" prospects.....I think that Lou is worth more than them to a team that needs goaltending.

But Gillis probably think he's worth more than he is. Lou should return a 1st and a playable forward. Gillis wants more than that.

Meds wrote:When you look at the top 5 in this upcoming draft, I don't see why Gillis doesn't just see if Florida will take Luongo in exchange for their 1st and a middle of the road prospect. Or even if there is some term coming back, do it. The chance to potentially get on of the top 5, and with Florida this year it could be top 2 or 3, if not the 1st overall. That is a helluva return for Louie.

He has. Florida isn't going to do that.

I don't think he has. I think he's asked for one of their top prospects, a serviceable center, and a pick.

Right now I think Gillis is sitting on Luongo still because he has been asking for the moon.

If Douglas Murray gets a pair of 2nd round picks, Brendan Morrow gets the best prospect in Pittsburgh's system and a draft pick, and Jarome Iginla gets a 1st and 2 "B" prospects.....I think that Lou is worth more than them to a team that needs goaltending.

But Gillis probably think he's worth more than he is. Lou should return a 1st and a playable forward. Gillis wants more than that.

This year is supposed to be a deep draft. No one wants to risk giving up their first, in the top 10 anyway, just in case. I would be fine with a first in 2014. A first, unless it is a Crosby type player, won't play for us for a few years anyway.

And I don't think he has been shooting for the moon. I think he has been clear about hat he wants and doesn't want. There have been deals he could live with but they all come with him taking term back. He can't do that. Burke shot his mouth off about MG wanting 15 first rounders and the media has been only too willing to go with that theory that MG is asking too much.

But I am like everyone else. I have no idea as to what he has been offered or what he has asked for in return. A deal will get done one way or the other and we will never know what could have been.