Tuesday, June 14, 2016

Unfair

Really Garry? You're a political animal in a political town - everything is unfair:

Former Chicago police Superintendent Garry McCarthy suggested his firing was unfair and expressed concern about the future of the Police Department in an email just days after his dismissal, according to records the administration of Mayor Rahm Emanuel turned over Monday under a court order.

In the Dec. 3 email, McCarthy told one of his deputy chiefs, "I only pray that what we've done as a team doesn't get undone by the next person. Life is sometimes unfair, but I have had a great run."

The email was one of 17 emails released Monday by the city, about a dozen of which contained sympathetic messages to McCarthy in the wake of his Dec. 1 firing.

This batch appears to be from a second e-mail account that the City and/or Department "missed" in the first release of records. Funny how that happens.

Funny how McCompStat hopes they don't undo everything he fucked up with his "New York invented police work" attitude, making the Department so top-heavy we have more than three times the number of Deputy Chiefs that J-Fled and most of his predecessors operated with - any efficiency expert will tell you exactly where to make massive cuts when reform is in the air - middle management.

A tact officer gets stripped Monday only hours after he kicked a scumbag who was wrestling with his partner after same scumbag bit and choked the partner in attempt to defeat a lawful arrest. The media couldn't wait to put the video out and interview other scumbags.

hmm...newspaper has no link to the copies of emails , unlike the previous release....Which ball licking loser are they protecting?....can there possibly a more ridiculous email than Love,Barb (the underwhelming over promoted Gene Williams replacement)

This like everything that Rahm says is BULLSHIT! Now there is a separate email account? So much for "Transparency"; now show us the McDonald Cover-Up emails. They have to be out there, I cannot believe that a complete cover-up was executed without any email or paper trail. Somebody from City Hall had to tell Sneed's "Bronx Bulldog" to shut up and keep the video hidden! And make no mistake about it: IF Rahm runs for a third term, the video will be used against him. Stay Fetal, Stay Fetal; Chicago Values, Chicago Values! Baby"G"

Off topic: I just saw the video of the plain clothes officer booting the guy in 011. I know the situation is escalated and you are trying to help a fellow officer, but please think before you act. In this climate, job is gone, states attorney wants to charge any copper she can, and you just gave this mutt and his family the ghetto lottery.

Another horrible McCompstat cronie, Area North Deputy "No Good" was taken from us and was given like cancer to Area North. Guys and Gals, this guy was hated in Central and will stick it to you any chance he gets. If he decides to verbally abuse you, make a record of it as creating a hostile work environment. He actually called us pu&$ies for not doing enough ISRs.....Remember, this softball has signed off on more PO suspensions than any other Deputy......Our loss is definitely not your gain.....get out while you can before the threats start pouring in.......very dangerous individual

History will show that McCarthy was worse a worse superintendent than J Weis. Thanks to GM, we have the ACLU micro-lawyering every street stop. Thanks to GM, so-called "contact cards" became the measure of all police work, when they had nothing to do with preventing crime. The quota for contact cards to work overtime initiatives became abused and the majority of "contact cards" were neither investigatory stops nor detentions based on reasonable articulable suspicion. But GM didn't care. Now, quietly we hear the bosses want more ISR's, as if good police work can only be measured by these street stops. We should go back to measuring police work not by ISRs, but by actual quantifiable reductions in crime. Measure police work with real police activity--arrests, parkers, movers, ANOVs (not a big fan of the ANOV but they are more of a deterrent to crime than ISRs), curfews. The majority of coppers intuitively know who is suspected of committing crimes, but this crazy notion of having to document street stops on a 70-plus-question, 2-page document, is a deterrent to good police work, and then the crazier notion that this will somehow deter criminal behavior is asinine. The ISR is probably contributing as much to the rise in crime as the weather. I think a good statistical analysis would confirm this: compare crime rates before and after the ISR.

I liked GM for putting commanders on the hot seat, yelling at them like they were PPCs--probationary police commanders, but that's about it.

Just saw the video of the officers fighting for their lives in the 011th District. Eddie the (piece of shit) Johnson wants an investigation of the officer kicking the criminal in the face. How about all the good citizens who are impeding the arrest and threatening the officers? What are you going to do about that you piece of crap johnson?

Off topic: I just saw the video of the plain clothes officer booting the guy in 011. I know the situation is escalated and you are trying to help a fellow officer, but please think before you act. In this climate, job is gone, states attorney wants to charge any copper she can, and you just gave this mutt and his family the ghetto lottery.

Why didn't that officer go down and help the other officer wrestling with the asshole on the ground? I saw that he was keeping an eye out for his partner, but do something.

All a buncha political hack Clowns. Poor Supervision in all aspects of CPD, a slaughterhouse on the streets of Chicago are the results. Keep promoting on the basis of political affiliation, diversity, Affirmative Action, and nepotism. See where that has taken you. Thousands throughout the years are dead, and it's the incompetence, and dysfunction of CPD and City Hall mis-Management that has their blood on its hands.

I just watched the cell phone video of two policemen fighting to gain control of a savage. Eddie "How Do You Put This on Speaker" Johnson just showed he is a worthless pandering coward by stripping the officer involved. Eddie wouldn't know a hostile crowd because he never confronted one. Someone needs to FOIA the Cmdr. Michael "She Beez my Cousin" Shields sexual harassment CR, and final city settlement to Johnson, et al. to understand Johnsons appointment to Supt. was little more than a quid pro quo to stem more negative publicity from the sex scandals involving defendant Shields and plaintiff Johnson. In the meantime, stay fetal.

I don't know what the fuck it's going to take to get these tac guys in 010 and 011 to stop chasing and engaging these pricks on the west side. This officer is now going to have his name and face plastered all over the news every day. Eddie Johnson I doubt you read this blog, I doubt you can read, but if you can and do please read this.......YOU ARE A FUCKING COWARD. The 3900 of Grenshaw has been going up everyday and a squad car was just bricked on Sunday. Instead of going to see the injured officer in the hospital you go and check on this shithead who bit and choked an officer, had a bunch of heroin on him, and was on parole. You, and the rest of your spineless minions should be ashamed of yourselves. You are not the police, you are filthy, lying, cowardly politicians.

Everyone in this city, EVERYONE, including narcotics who are still doing a fair share of search warrants, we all need to sit back and don't do a fucking thing. Hang out like the firemen do. Eddie Johnson you can shove your atta boy email you just sent out to everyone up your chicken shit ass.

McCarthy should never have been hired given his "history" involving alcohol and anger incidents.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/20/nyregion/20chief.html?_r=0

That's just one.

Reportedly after that incident McCarthy tried to get that whole department closed.

It would be the equivalent of some CPD exempt getting into an altercation with on Duty State Troopers and then trying to get the troopers kicked off Chicago Expressways. I'm guessing no Chicago exempt would be stupid enough to try to completely close down the State Police. Then again.......

Unfair is when the Superintendent throws a Tac guy under the bus for using force against a violent offender. He has 1 day to correct this or I will never do another second of police work again. Don't think it's going to get better. Stay fetal.

n this climate, job is gone, states attorney wants to charge any copper she can, and you just gave this mutt and his family the ghetto lottery.

Fuck the asshole on the floor, my beef is why didn't he help the officer control the mutt. No once did he do anythi g to help his partner. All he did for his partner was get him some 30 pending. Was he scared.

Officer in video just release got caught up with the crowd instead of helping his partner on the ground right away. High intensity situation. It happens. In the heat of the moment he sees his partner being choked and he kicks the offenders head. A choke hold like that can be lethal. It doesn't take much force to do some real damage to the windpipe. Like crushing an empty can. A crushed windpipe can lead to death within 3-4 minutes. A choke hold like that is so dangerous that the charge is an automatic upgrade to a felony. The video is also very clear evidence of the offender resisting and clearly committing aggravated battery.

Go out there and go get em boys n girls! Don't worry, we got your back........ way back! As long as your actions are politically correct and don't even slightly wander into the grey area (where you wouldn't need us anyway). Trust us! Be proactive!

You guys and gals in 010 and 011 need to stop chasing and fighting with these fuckers. There is absolutely nothing to gain anymore, and everything to lose. They're not on our blocks selling dope, and for the most part they're only hurting each other. So just let them be. Put the air on in your squad, roll your windows up and worry about where your going to have lunch. Handle your calls, back each other up, and go home. A much less stressful day at the office. It's not worth it anymore. All it takes is a couple seconds in a very stressful situation, to do something on camera, and your career could be over, and it may even cost you your freedom. Let them have the west side. It's over. Who cares.

At what point will some officers figure out that if you are a proactive, tactical warrior, gung-ho police man then you risk your career and freedom? So a tactical warrior walks up and kicks the offender on his head. The offender then is knocked out and now he will be out of a job and will be charged criminally.

Here is the link to the video and news story-http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/158751271-story

From Rodney King to Darren Wilson to Freddie Gray to Jason Van Dyke. Our world as police officers has changed. You still feel like doing proactive police work? The department and bosses have your back?

Last night in my district we had two fucking foot chases from tactical warriors. Keep up the hard work fuckers!

I won't be buying a fund raising ticket for this officer. If after everything that has happened and you still haven't gotten the memo and want to be a pro active tactical warrior then you are nothing but a child who wants to live in a fantasy world and wants to endanger the lives and jobs of your fellow officers.

Hey, let these gang bangin Mutts kill each other! Stay fetal and you won't be on the next video getting thrown under the bus by the new Supt. Has our backs my ass! I never saw a white shirt try and hold down a scumbag mutt, let alone fight with one, in over 20 years on this job! Now a Tact Officer is stripped over a dog! Next time just let them go, FUCK IT!

Off topic: I just saw the video of the plain clothes officer booting the guy in 011. I know the situation is escalated and you are trying to help a fellow officer, but please think before you act. In this climate, job is gone, states attorney wants to charge any copper she can, and you just gave this mutt and his family the ghetto lottery.

6/14/2016 08:00:00 AM

Apparently you saw the edited version of the video. Watch the whole thing. That was well-justified.

Dear Eddie Johnson, choking is considered deadly force which allows the use of deadly force to combat it. A video shows one of your officers getting bit and getting choked, it also shows another officer SAVING HIS PARTNER'S LIFE. How do you reward this hero? You strip him! I just want to thank you for showing your true colors and want to give you a whole hearted fuck you. You must be so proud of yourself for the damage you are causing. Throwing officers under the bus for completely justified actions, allowing a group of cheaters to continue on. You are a huge disappointment Eddie. Any officer doing anything other than respond & report deserves what the racist Eddie does to you.

A tact officer gets stripped Monday only hours after he kicked a scumbag who was wrestling with his partner after same scumbag bit and choked the partner in attempt to defeat a lawful arrest. The media couldn't wait to put the video out and interview other scumbags.

Now THAT is unfair.

That may be unfair to you, but we were not trained to kick anyone despite what they do to us.

Another horrible McCompstat cronie, Area North Deputy "No Good" was taken from us and was given like cancer to Area North. Guys and Gals, this guy was hated in Central and will stick it to you any chance he gets. If he decides to verbally abuse you, make a record of it as creating a hostile work environment. He actually called us pu&$ies for not doing enough ISRs.....Remember, this softball has signed off on more PO suspensions than any other Deputy......Our loss is definitely not your gain.....get out while you can before the threats start pouring in.......very dangerous individual

Fuck every knee-walking, nutsack-gargling,asshole-smooching fuck-prize that sent youcondolences when Rahm launched your one-way bully ass when you burned-throughas a convenient heat shield for his narrow ass.

"It was unfair..."

>Pffft!<

It was a sin, a shame and a grave injusticeto the fine men and women sworn as Chicago Police Officers, that you were allowed to roll your colorful Law EnforcementGypsy wagon into Chicago to peddle the Public Safety Poison you call CompStat...

8:00 am. You are a complete deuche bag. I would never partner with you. I would have had my arm bitten off and been choked out before you took even verbal direction. The second officer made a split second tactical decision to stun the offender with his foot when the offender began to choke the partner. Don't believe me. Even Chicago breaking news reported it that way and the media is never our friend

That being said, guys stop being proactive! It can only serve to hurt you right now. If you have to stop people because you have hyperactivity disorder or something then if they run, let them go! There is no shame in it right now. If you get stripped it hurts you but it hurts all of us because that's one less guy out there that can come help when the shit hits the fan

As far as your negative McCarthy comments, after watching Johnson strip this guy how can you say you like him better? McCarthy would have more than likely dissected the video and backed him explaining that the officer was in danger of getting choked out and if the partner had turned his back they would have been in danger of getting jumped.

Yes he can. And I promise you he will be. They're all the same. He's a politician like anyone other clout hack at that level. I don't care if he was the "real police" 20 years ago. You can bet your ass that he isn't anymore and he will throw any one of us under the bus to keep his job.

Off topic: I just saw the video of the plain clothes officer booting the guy in 011. I know the situation is escalated and you are trying to help a fellow officer, but please think before you act. In this climate, job is gone, states attorney wants to charge any copper she can, and you just gave this mutt and his family the ghetto lottery.

6/14/2016 08:00:00 AM

"I just saw the video"....so in other words "I wasn't there". Yet, you feel compelled to throw the copper under the bus even though you have no idea what happened.

The press wants to sell add space and commercial time. That's why they make stupid statements like this. What is your reason? The press does enough damage without your help.

Here is a reminder for everyone: The police are supposed to win. We stand between you and the wolf.

Why didn't that officer go down and help the other officer wrestling with the asshole on the ground? I saw that he was keeping an eye out for his partner, but do something._________

Not jumping in might have been the right call at that time. You couldn't completely tell by watching the video but there were alot of shitheads around, some threatening the coppers. He was keeping an eye on those guys, like the dept trains good crowd control. You go down and take your eyes off the crowd, not a good tactic.

Remind EJ that when someone is choking your partner you have the right to rely on your training and use whatever force necessary to stop the leathal threat including deadly force. Should never have been stripped. Stop attempting to do police work when it is very obvious no one cares about violent crime let alone drug sales. Stay fetal Stay Alive Stay Employed.

Dear Eddie Johnson, choking is considered deadly force which allows the use of deadly force to combat it. A video shows one of your officers getting bit and getting choked, it also shows another officer SAVING HIS PARTNER'S LIFE. How do you reward this hero? You strip him! I just want to thank you for showing your true colors and want to give you a whole hearted fuck you. You must be so proud of yourself for the damage you are causing. Throwing officers under the bus for completely justified actions, allowing a group of cheaters to continue on. You are a huge disappointment Eddie. Any officer doing anything other than respond & report deserves what the racist Eddie does to you.

6/14/2016 12:44:00 PMAnonymous Anonymous said...

A tact officer gets stripped Monday only hours after he kicked a scumbag who was wrestling with his partner after same scumbag bit and choked the partner in attempt to defeat a lawful arrest. The media couldn't wait to put the video out and interview other scumbags.

Now THAT is unfair.

That may be unfair to you, but we were not trained to kick anyone despite what they do to us.

6/14/2016 12:53:00 PM

Wait a minute...Are you saying that Policemen aren't allowed to KICK anymore?

Who ARE you really, and which media outlet do you work for?

Stir the pot much?

What the fuck are Policemen going to be left with to defend themselves?

Hug a cop biting/cop choking hard head m/fer into submission?

"Love yo wild ass! C'mere you!"

The fuck outta heah...

This nitwit is lucky he didn't get his jawbonesmacked through the back of his rotten skull...

Anyone feel like calling ARDC? Michael Oppenheimer, Shaq's attorney, went out and said to the media "these are cover charges"...the video clearly shows the resisting charges are warranted. Therefore Oppenheimer made false statements which damaged the reputation of a public official with. Clear disregard for the falsity of those statements...such statements are slander and are actionable bitj civilly as well as personally. These attorneys need to learn a lesson about inciteful speech and lessons. To the officers involved get a lawyer and sue the fuck out of this shit head!! If he bit you, choked you, whatever...as soon as his is filed you need to counterclaim! He may prevail against the city so you might as well get a judgment against those winnings. Depending on whether its federal or state will determine if your counterclaim MUST be filed now but get a lawyer and know your rights!!!

Anonymous Anonymous said...Just saw the video of the officers fighting for their lives in the 011th District. Eddie the (piece of shit) Johnson wants an investigation of the officer kicking the criminal in the face. How about all the good citizens who are impeding the arrest and threatening the officers? What are you going to do about that you piece of crap johnson?

6/14/2016 08:43:00 AM

Well, at least ONE of the coppers was fighting for their life, the other one was not doing too much to assist his partner. WTF.

Why didn't that officer go down and help the other officer wrestling with the asshole on the ground? I saw that he was keeping an eye out for his partner, but do something.6/14/2016 10:02:00 AM

Agreed. I'm all about keeping the savages at bay, BUT u have to HELP your partner who is still fighting with dude BEFORE you can address the group of assholes. Dude wasn't secure and was able to fight with his partner. After handcuffing asshole THEN you can talk all the shit and scream at the masses.

THE BAD GUY could have had a gun in his waistand, knife or whatever. Fight is over most likely when bad guy gets handcuffed. It's to your advantage to take care of threat to you and your partner first. Since he wasnt handcuffed after first repsonding officer shows up on the scene there was potential to get out of hand worse than it did.

Officer safety is # 1.

Help partner is first. Handcuff the bad guy follows. Deal with rookie camera men is last. Shit talk is so far back it's a non- factor.

Anonymous said...Officer in video just release got caught up with the crowd instead of helping his partner on the ground right away. High intensity situation. It happens. In the heat of the moment he sees his partner being choked and he kicks the offenders head. A choke hold like that can be lethal. It doesn't take much force to do some real damage to the windpipe. Like crushing an empty can. A crushed windpipe can lead to death within 3-4 minutes. A choke hold like that is so dangerous that the charge is an automatic upgrade to a felony. The video is also very clear evidence of the offender resisting and clearly committing aggravated battery.

6/14/2016 11:10:00 AM

Wrong about him getting caught up with the crowd. I was in a similar situation years ago, also in 011, where the asshole's kin folk and neighborhood surrounded us. My partner pinned the dude (resistor) to the ground and everytime I bent down to help him, the crowd closed in on us. Assholes looking to throw rocks and 40 oz bottles. Called for assist cars, drew my firearm and faced the crowd until help arrived. That stomp was not a cheap shot. It was the best use of force in that situation to control a violent offender (assailant) that had elbowed, bit and attempted to choke the officer. You can hear the assholes threatening the officers and we have no idea how big that crowd was. Bravo, job well done. Let's see what Slow Eddie does. If he does not back these officers, he can suck donkey dick.

The police are supposed to win. We stand between you and the wolf......

Looks like the wolf had the sheepdog by the throat when he got one stomp to assist the officer in distress as the hyenas surrounded them. Time for the sheepdogs to open the gate let the wolves in and lock them inside the gate.

Where are the Fakebook photos and posts of the Cap and Gown turning his life around honor student? Is he a recording rap star? Or does he justr have a record?

That may be unfair to you, but we were not trained to kick anyone despite what they do to us.

But we were trained to perform stunning techniques. Also trained to discharge our weapons when we believe the actions can cause death or great bodily harm. I don't what video you watched or if you've ever been choked before but that officer had maybe 3-5 seconds left before he would have lost consciousness and could have been seriously injured. Would you have asked him politely to stop...? Or rather retreat and find cover whole requesting backup/specialized units like the department would like you to do?

Anonymous Anonymous said...Unfair is when the Superintendent throws a Tac guy under the bus for using force against a violent offender. He has 1 day to correct this or I will never do another second of police work again. Don't think it's going to get better. Stay fetal.

Oh BOYYYY! I am so scared. You probably don't do shit now and this is your current reason for being a lazy useless fuck! Now reply because you are such a great copper. Yah right.

What happened to the chain of command? How can a PO or a SGT be allowed or even try to directly email the superintendent of police just to say " hey boss, sorry to see you go!" WTF6/14/2016 09:49:00 AM

Not defending the suckhole but if you have the email address you can directly email it numbnuts

As far as your negative McCarthy comments, after watching Johnson strip this guy how can you say you like him better? McCarthy would have more than likely dissected the video and backed him explaining that the officer was in danger of getting choked out and if the partner had turned his back they would have been in danger of getting jumped.

6/14/2016 01:33:00 PM

Oh, for sure!! In the current political climate, which is all about saving one's own ass and nothing more, I'M just as sure that McWhinyBitch would have stripped that officer EXACTLY as he was told to do by Rahm. Who the hell do you think you're kidding?

A tact officer gets stripped Monday only hours after he kicked a scumbag who was wrestling with his partner after same scumbag bit and choked the partner in attempt to defeat a lawful arrest. The media couldn't wait to put the video out and interview other scumbags.

Now THAT is unfair.

That may be unfair to you, but we were not trained to kick anyone despite what they do to us.

6/14/2016 12:53:00 PM

If you have to be trained to use each specific tool at your disposal when someone is biting and choking your fellow officer, you don't belong on the job, let alone on the street. I get the feeling you're not on the street anyway based on your comment. If someone is being choked, you have a right and an obligation to stop that from happening, especially when it's your fellow officer. If the closest tool to the shitbag's head just happens to be your foot, that's the tool of choice. All of our idiotic use of force policies include the disclaimer that an officer will not endanger themselves or others to conform to the policy. I'd say both officers would have been endangered if this scum was able to choke the officer any longer. If you're wrestling with an offender over a knife, and the only way to win that fight is to stab the offender with that knife, do you just roll over and die because you weren't trained to stab anyone? If you lose your gun in a fight, but the offender's gun is right there on the ground in front of you, while he's pointing your gun at you, do you let him shoot you because you weren't trained to use his gun? Do you ask him politely to give you your gun back because that's what you were trained to use? Shut the fuck up and get back to shuffling papers, you moron.

Now, for the other issue:

I don't care if this fucker had three backpacks full of heroin on him, what the fuck are you doing chasing him? How do you not get this at this point? He's not selling drugs to your kids. He's not in front of your house. Let him poison the junkies and ghetto rats. Why do you care? You need the court time that badly? Well, you got your wish. You'll be in court. You didn't do anything wrong, but it looks bad on camera. That's all that matters now. What the black community thinks is all that matters when it comes to you being charged with a crime for just doing your job. You look really good in your jeans. I hope wearing jeans was worth the trouble you've now gotten yourself into. Good luck, and I hope this at least serves as a lesson to some other brainless go-getter.

"...any efficiency expert will tell you exactly where to make massive cuts when reform is in the air - middle management."

You can't do that. The whole city is set up to protect and multiply political cronies in these worthless sinecure jobs. Everything else is secondary.

"Bike parks" in industrial wastelands you are supposed to ride through 20 miles of ghetto to get to, do a couple of laps, and then walk home from all beat up after they surge out of the underbrush and take your bike and phone and stuff. That is what we need.

A tact officer gets stripped Monday only hours after he kicked a scumbag who was wrestling with his partner after same scumbag bit and choked the partner in attempt to defeat a lawful arrest. The media couldn't wait to put the video out and interview other scumbags.

Now THAT is unfair.

That may be unfair to you, but we were not trained to kick anyone despite what they do to us.

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I have not seen the video but if it is as has been described on this blog, Then a swift kick to the head or his balls is perfectly justifiable to defend your partner. You have either be a troll or a PPO. "Were not trained to do"! Ridiculous! OOOHHH, don't bend his little finger backwards; we were not trained to do that move! Jeeze!

"That stomp was not a cheap shot. It was the best use of force in that situation to control a violent offender (assailant) that had elbowed, bit and attempted to choke the officer. You can hear the assholes threatening the officers and we have no idea how big that crowd was."

6/14/2016 06:36:00 PM

If force is justified to affect an arrest/protect life/retain sidearms, a blow with an ASP is a punch is a kick is a stomp. The street is not a boxing ring with referees. It is a place where you can get killed. Now make it, say, 20 on 2, and you got a real fight for your life.

How many more gadgets they gonna hang on your duty belt that you aren't allowed to use?

You're right the assist officer shouldn't have kicked the offender he should have drew his weapon ordered the offender to stop choking his partner and when he refused the lawful order shoot the offender in the head to protect his partners life.

I do not know what Police Academy you went to, but I remember practicing kicks in the gym fighting someone. So if someone comes swinging at me according to the Use of Force Model I can use impact weapons but no kicking. We were taught to neutralize the threat using nonlethal force. That Officer used his foot because he did not want to take his sight off the advancing crowd.

Lot of second guessing of the officer in the video going on here. Not being on the scene you are making some wild allegations. Surrounded by savages that he obviously considered a threat He gave the idiot a kick in the head as he reached up choking his partner. He was absolutely justified in his actions. To me it's a no brainer. I find Eddie's decision troubling.

If either of these two officers get jammed up then every blue shirt on this department should say fuck this city and fuck this department. The offender was NOT CUFFED and STILL RESISTING. Anyone with half a brain can see it in the video.

Eddie better back these guys and what the fuck is there for IPRA to investigate ? The video clearly shows the offender resisting and these guys facing a hostile crowd.

They couldn't get him under control until assist units arrived so what the fuck is the arguement here ? An active violent person resisting arrest gets a stomp ? So fuckin what ! These are the streets.

Are we supposed to dance with these fuckers out in the street now ?

If either of these two coppers get jammed up then FUCK THIS DEPARTMENT and CITY !

All you hard chargers better take notice if these guys get the shaft and lose theirs jobs.

Retire or get out if you can. This is the most fucked up time to be a police officer that I have ever been witness to. Its a godamned shame that the criminals are pandered to and we are considered shit for doing our jobs. FUCK THIS PLACE !!!!!!!!!PROCATIVE means loss of employment, lawsuit and criminal charges on you !

Officer Richard Soto choked up on the stand as he described the joy he felt when he was permanently assigned to Daley’s detail after months of subbing for other officers. A woman on the jury offered him a tissue.

“I never been fired before and that’s exactly what it felt like,” Soto said.

Anonymous said...Does anyone know of even 1 commander who wasn't total merit in every single promotion that they were given?

6/14/2016 10:59:00 AM

There a few that I believe made rank up to Lt legit. Obviously, exempt and captain are appointed positions now. The names that come to mind are: Buslik, Lemmer, Deenahan. I am sure there are a few more. I know that Lemmer is particularly despised and I can personally say that there is good reason for that.

Help partner is first. Handcuff the bad guy follows. Deal with rookie camera men is last. Shit talk is so far back it's a non- factor.

Ladies and gentlemen.....Let's all act like we've done this before.

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I agree with above poster.

The video doesn't show the size of the crowd but does show the officer engaging the crowd and talking shit. Cannot deny that. His weapon wasn't drawn and he continually turns his back on his partner numerous times. If he would've stood in front of his partner to shield him.from throwing debris ( rocks, bottles etc) I would understand that move. He doesnt. The cop is a hot head. It's unfortunate but DOPE is a shitty way to lose your job and maybe your FREEDOM. Leave the drug activity stuff alone. When will these guys get it. It's never worth it down the line. Nobody gives a shit.

Stay FETAL but more importantly KEEP EACH OTHER SAFE.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO REMEBER IS YOU AND YOUR PARTNER GO HOME AT THE END OF YOUR SHIFT.

Attack the police, watched Trump today from North Carolina live he talked about what the police are going through and he stated "we love and support our police" this man needs to take that office immediately!

Eddie. You aren't the police and probably never were. Man up and resign. Maybe you and your girlfriend or play wife can play house somewhere else. BTW. Have you had a physical lately. You don't look very healthy, or is it a guilty conscience?

I still can't believe there are a few idiots who have trouble with this scenario. You must have worked in the cushiness of districts doing absolutely nothing to not realize how the crowd turns on you in a second

A kick is a direct mechanical strike, just like an open hand stun or a baton/asp.

If a dog clamped down on your hand or finger would you not crack it to stun it to let go?

Leave policing to the police.

Finally, stop being proactive! You are only increasing your odds of being under a bus!

Start tazing these goofs if they resist. The more muscle they have the bigger the charlie horse.

6/14/2016 08:49:00 PM

Tough to taze in that situation. Partner is fighting for his life on top of the offender. What's he supposed to do, jump off the offender so you can taze him? Lot of arm chair quarterbacks here. That kick was totally justified use of force.

Anonymous said...Does anyone know of even 1 commander who wasn't total merit in every single promotion that they were given?

6/14/2016 10:59:00 AM

There a few that I believe made rank up to Lt legit. Obviously, exempt and captain are appointed positions now. The names that come to mind are: Buslik, Lemmer, Deenahan. I am sure there are a few more. I know that Lemmer is particularly despised and I can personally say that there is good reason for that.

Like it or not, Cornelia Lott and Eddie Johnson WERE NOT merit Sgts or Lts

I'm a martial artist looked at video a few times kick completely justified shower video to my instructors both 6 degree black belts in that situation partner being choked an animal acting crazy situational awareness angry crowd possibly getting ready to attack the officer did what was expedient and walked forward in the direction of possible attack after neutralization of savage attacker! Great job Eddie your priorities are really screwed up restore those officers immediately otherwise this act of cowardice on your part boss must be addressed by your resignation!

If you have to be trained to use each specific tool at your disposal when someone is biting and choking your fellow officer, you don't belong on the job, let alone on the street. I get the feeling you're not on the street anyway based on your comment. If someone is being choked, you have a right and an obligation to stop that from happening, especially when it's your fellow officer. If the closest tool to the shitbag's head just happens to be your foot, that's the tool of choice. All of our idiotic use of force policies include the disclaimer that an officer will not endanger themselves or others to conform to the policy. I'd say both officers would have been endangered if this scum was able to choke the officer any longer. If you're wrestling with an offender over a knife, and the only way to win that fight is to stab the offender with that knife, do you just roll over and die because you weren't trained to stab anyone? If you lose your gun in a fight, but the offender's gun is right there on the ground in front of you, while he's pointing your gun at you, do you let him shoot you because you weren't trained to use his gun? Do you ask him politely to give you your gun back because that's what you were trained to use? Shut the fuck up and get back to shuffling papers, you moron.

Now, for the other issue:

I don't care if this fucker had three backpacks full of heroin on him, what the fuck are you doing chasing him? How do you not get this at this point? He's not selling drugs to your kids. He's not in front of your house. Let him poison the junkies and ghetto rats. Why do you care? You need the court time that badly? Well, you got your wish. You'll be in court. You didn't do anything wrong, but it looks bad on camera. That's all that matters now. What the black community thinks is all that matters when it comes to you being charged with a crime for just doing your job. You look really good in your jeans. I hope wearing jeans was worth the trouble you've now gotten yourself into. Good luck, and I hope this at least serves as a lesson to some other brainless go-getter.6/14/2016 08:11:00 PM

"If someone is being choked, you have a right and an obligation to stop that from happening, especially when it's your fellow officer. If the closest tool to the shitbag's head just happens to be your foot, that's the tool of choice"

You also have an obligation to help your partner in affecting the arrest. Not prance around like a fucking peacock jabbering in your radio and having fuck you contests with the local populace. Place him to custody, put him in your car and get the fuck out of there. Yes Jagoff I've made dozens of arrests on the 3900 Block of Grenshaw, it's not rocket science.