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There is a belief that large companies have to buy products and services from other large companies. I have worked on both sides of the RFP/Proposal & purchasing/selling continuum. Often, it excluded the product or services that we, the operational users, really wanted. However, most large corporations and government agencies write their requestes for proposals (RFP) in such a way as to exclude small operators, thinking that they are mitigating their risks. MORE

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responding to an RFP) that has enough deliberate ambiguity to generate productive discussion is great. I recall an academic colleague who responded to my query about not using games by relating how expensive digital production was, but how inexpensive group activity was. I’ve been thinking around the ways to use social learning to augment formal learning, and it’s bringing interesting things together. MORE

Also, put out RFP for knowledge exchange. Comment: Did you struggle with how it is that we're talking about knowledge, which feels like a product these days, and how you feel about the learning in social organizations, that may never become a product. How do you evaluate the learning that comes out of a social movement, which is not a product. We can look at the product, but we can ask, how did we get to this point. Learning there is not looked at as a product. MORE

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Continuing on from my earlier posts: LMS Selection Presentation Reformulated LMS Selection Team and Stakeholders LMS Selection Process From several comments and from looking at my list of issues, I realize that writing a good LMS RFP is challenging and it's easy to make lots of mistakes. LMS RFP Resources John Theis wrote a dissertation on the contents of 25 RFPs submitted to an LMS vendor. But, what I see as the most common problem in LMS RFP documents are the requirements.

Just to close the loop on my series of posts that I created as part of preparing my presentation: LMS Team Size and Time LMS RFP LMS Selection Presentation Reformulated LMS Selection Team and Stakeholders LMS Selection Process LMS Satisfaction Features and Barriers Thanks again for the input. Moving from One to Many - LMS Products are Two Generations Behind Leading with an LMS - Harmful to Your Health (or Skipping Stages.

Tail of Process - Demos, Hands-on Testing, Negotiation The tail of Bryan's process is: Week 9 - Read and Grade Proposals Week 10 - Final meeting to pick system (Bryan has demos in Week 5) The tail of my process has: Demos Pilot or hands-on tests Negotiate Final selection Bryan talks about having demos earlier in the process: In my model, I have learned the value of moving the demo upfront, rather than waiting until after the RFP.

There is a belief that large companies have to buy products and services from other large companies. I have worked on both sides of the RFP/Proposal & purchasing/selling continuum. Often, it excluded the product or services that we, the operational users, really wanted. However, most large corporations and government agencies write their requestes for proposals (RFP) in such a way as to exclude small operators, thinking that they are mitigating their risks.

The other related posts are: LMS RFP LMS Selection Presentation Reformulated LMS Selection Team and Stakeholders LMS Selection Process LMS Satisfaction Features and Barriers Other posts on LMS: Learning Management Systems (LMS) Gotchas Tracking Without an LMS LMS Dissatisfaction on the Rise Do You WANT an LMS? Moving from One to Many - LMS Products are Two Generations Behind Leading with an LMS - Harmful to Your Health (or Skipping Stages.

Most of the time (as is the case with Oracle) these are different products. I know the folks from CornerStone and their product does some really interesting things. Over the past few years, they've been able to fend of Oracle, PeopleSoft and SAP through superior products.

These discussions center on what requirements should go into an LMS RFP and more broadly how the LMS should really be integrated into the organization. This is really all about the issue I raised 3 years ago in terms of strategic choices for LMS Vendors in a few different posts such as: Moving from One to Many - LMS Products are Two Generations Behind and Point Solutions vs. Suites and Composition. I've had a similar discussion several times over the past few months.

responding to an RFP) that has enough deliberate ambiguity to generate productive discussion is great. I recall an academic colleague who responded to my query about not using games by relating how expensive digital production was, but how inexpensive group activity was. I’ve been thinking around the ways to use social learning to augment formal learning, and it’s bringing interesting things together.

Moving from One to Many - LMS Products are Two Generations Behind Leading with an LMS - Harmful to Your Health (or Skipping Stages. Update 2/6/2008 based on recent Top eLearning Posts It can be daunting to visit a blog for the first time. The author(s) have been writing individual articles for months or years. This is my attempt to help you get a sense of topics of my blog and find some of the more interesting past articles.

These discussions center on what requirements should go into an LMS RFP and more broadly how the LMS should really be integrated into the organization. This is really all about the issue I raised 3 years ago in terms of strategic choices for LMS Vendors in a few different posts such as: Moving from One to Many - LMS Products are Two Generations Behind and Point Solutions vs. Suites and Composition. I've had a similar discussion several times over the past few months.

Also, put out RFP for knowledge exchange. Comment: Did you struggle with how it is that we're talking about knowledge, which feels like a product these days, and how you feel about the learning in social organizations, that may never become a product. How do you evaluate the learning that comes out of a social movement, which is not a product. We can look at the product, but we can ask, how did we get to this point. Learning there is not looked at as a product.

'm fully embroiled in working with clients in helping them define these environments for their employees and how they will have to grapple with issues of control to make full use of the productivity possible with these new toolsets.