CREATING THE SECRET STATE: THE ORIGINS OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY, 1943 - 1947, by David F. Rudgers, 2000, by the University Press of Kansas.

"Independent historian David F. Rudgers was formerly a staff archivist for the National Archives and a SeniorIntelligence Analyst with the Central Intelligence Agency."

"This book is a gem. It out trumps Thomas Troy's DONOVAN and should easily achieve the status of the standardaccount of CIA origins. Anyone with a serious interest in the history of the U.S. Intelligence will have to be awareof it. I am filled with admiration for Rudgers's research and the forensic skill he displays in putting the pieces of the debate into such clear perspective."Wesley Clark, author of THE INTELLIGENCE REVOLUTION: ESPIONAGE AND INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS SINCE 1990.

"While much has been disclosed about the CIA's cloak-and-dagger activities during the Cold War, relatively little isknown about the origins of this secret organization. David Rudgers, a twenty-two-year CIA veteran, has written the first complete account of its creation, revealing how the idea of a centralized intelligence developed within the government and debunking the myth that former OSS chief William J. Donovan was the prime mover behind the agency's founding."

"CREATING THE SECRET STATE locates the CIA's origins in government-wide efforts to reorganize national security during the transition from World War II to the Cold War. Rudgers maintains that the creation of the CIA was notmerely the brainchild of 'Wild Bill' Donovan. Rather, it was the culmination of years of negotiation among numerouspolicy makers such as James Forrestal and Dean Acheson, each with strong opinions regarding the agency's missionand methods. He shows that Congress, the Departments of State and Justice, the Joint Chiefs, and even the Budget Bureau all had a hand in the establishment of this 'secret state' that operates nearly invisibly outside the Americanpolitical process."

"Based almost entirely on archival and other primary sources, Rudgers's book describes in detail how the CIA evolved from its original purpose - as a watchdog to guard against a 'nuclear Pearl Harbor' - to the role of clandestine warriors countering Soviet subversion, eventually engaging in more forms of intelligence gathering and covert operations than any of its counterparts. It suggests how the agency became a different organizationthan it might have been without the Communist threat and also shows how it over exaggerated the dangersof the Cold War and failed to predict its ending."

"Rudgers has written an accurate and balanced account that brings America's undercover army in from thecold and out from under the cult of personality. An indispensable resource for future studies of the CIA, CREATING THE SECRET STATE tells the inside story of why and how the agency was called into existence as it stimulates thinking about the future relevance of the CIA in a rapidly changing world."

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Excellent topic, Bruce. The CIA is a central piece to the secret state. As I've said many times now, the last four U.S. Presidents have all had ties or associations with the CIA previous to their residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

1947 was quite a year. The CIA was formed. Plus you had the event in Roswell. Finally, you had the United Nations proposing a plan in November of that year to set up an independent Jewish State, which later became Israel in May of 1948.

Now, 69 years later, think about how all three of those events have changed the world in which we exist in today.

I strongly believe that this Subject Matter is more crucial than ever before, more germane, andoverwhelmingly more powerful than ever before in the History of the United States of America.

YET IT VIRTUALLY NEVER RECEIVES ANY ATTENTION IN THE MAIN STREAM MEDIA, NOR BY THE JFKRESEARCH COMMUNITY.

I don't think that you can achieve a realistic grasp of how "We the People..." arrived at this position,nor can you fathom a guess as to where we are headed without trying to wrap your thinking aroundthese concepts.

As always, I recommend that you completely read, research, and study material on your own, then formulate your own Opinions and Thoughts.

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SPECIAL NOTE: (THE DEEP STATE, THE SECRET STATE, THE SECRET GOVERNMENT, THE SECRET RULING CLASS, THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT, etc., are certainly NOT terms that are unfamiliar to the serious government, history, philosophical, political science analysts, readers, researchers, students, and writers, and especially those that have focused on JFK, MX, MLK, RFK, Viet Nam, Laos, Cambodia, the Oklahoma Bombing, 09.11.2001, etc. 03.12.2017, BB.)

Relative to The Removal of JFK analyses, interpretations, and perspectives almost all differ to some degree or other in qualification and quantification of many/most aspects, influence, and levels of involvement of The Removal Of JFK on 11.22.1963 in Dallas, Texas at 12:30 p.m., Who, What, When, Where, Why, and How.

Richard Milhous Nixon, Vice President under President Dwight David Eisenhower for eight (8) years, was the anointed, cultured, developed, hand picked, nurtured, trusted designate to succeed President Eisenhower, by all facets of The High Cabal and the Tenatcles of The Octopus. Nixon had been originally hand picked by Prescott Bush. Never loose sight of that fact. Its far reaching ramifications span decades that many/most fail to understand.

While certainly all/most politics in the U.S. is/has been arguably corrupt, and fixed, Joseph Kennedy, Sr., and His Cash Dollars For Supporters and Votes Program Clearly Stole the November, 1960 Election for the President of the U.S. Much to the chagrin of anybody and anything affiliated with the Presumed Victory of Richard Milieus Nixon. THIS SENT SHOCK WAVES IMMEDIATELY THROUGHOUT ALL INTERCONNECTED POWER STRUCTURES IN THE U.S. This is where the Trail of The Removal of JFK Began. It is simplistic to think otherwise. My Opinion.

The Truth of the Matter, like it or not, is THAT JFK DID NOT "WIN." Joe Kennedy, Sr., Bought-Stole The November, 1960 Election for JFK. Certainly this wasn't the first, nor the last, corruption to surface in the U.S. Presidential Election.

To a Degree Joseph Kennedy, Sr., by his corrupt actions Began The Inevitable Removals of both JFK and RFK.

THE HIGH CABAL AND THE OCTOPUS THAT JOE KENNEDY, Sr., "TEMPORARILY DEFEATED" DID NOT, AND DOES NOT FIGHT BY THE MARQUESS OF QUEENSBERRY RULES.

JOE KENNEDY, Sr., STIRRED MULTIPLE HORNET's NESTS THAT WERE SO FAR BEYOND HIS COMPREHENSION AND CONTROL THAT HE NEVER CONSIDERED, ENVISIONED, OR COULD HAVE IMAGINED.

JFK, as brilliant as he was, was naive enough To Think That He Was In Charge. JFK WAS IN CHARGE OF NOTHING. JFK, MLK, and RFK are still dead. And The High Cabal and Its Far Reaching Octopus is larger, healthier, and more powerful than ever.

Bear in mind that Conversations and Discussions of What Might Need To Be Done about JFK actually began about 01.20.1961, The Day of JFK's Inauguration. This is crucial to accept and understand. You must read, research, and study carefully about the Transitional Period before, during, and after this. My Opinion.

Compartmentalization and Need to Know has tremendously helped create, develop, and perpetuate a varied Set Of Analyses and Belief Structures of The JFK Removal that virtually nobody accepts or agrees with even today, with 52+ years of JFK Experts chasing their tails and tales.

Just a few of The Many Forces That Allegedly Removed JFK, MX, MLK, and RFK.

* Bilderberg Group

* Bush

* Castro

* Chicago Outfit

* CIA

* Council on Foreign Relations

* Cubans

* DIA

* DOD

* Federal Reserve

* FBI

* J. Edgar Hoover

* KGB

* LBJ

* LHO

* Mafia

* Masons

* Military Industrial Complex

* New World Order

* Nixon

* NSA

* Oil Depletion Allowance

* Russians

* Viet Nam

* Certainly there are many others believed or thought to be involved.

SPECIAL NOTE: (AS YOUR ANALYZE, READ, STUDY, AND THINK THROUGH THIS ENTIRE SUBJECT MATTER BOTH NOW, AND IN THE FUTURE, STOP AND SUBSTITUTE AND THINK THAT OBAMA AND "HIS PEOPLE" REALLY DIDN'T DO THIS. RATHER AS ALL PRESIDENCIES AND ASPECTS OF OUR GOVERNMENT HAVE FALLEN VICTIM TO EITHER THE CIA, DIA, DOD, FBI, SOME OTHER ARM OF THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, OR NSA. 03.12.2017, BB.)

Sean Spicer, the White House spokesman, didn't reject the idea that a "DEEP STATE" may be working to undermine Donald Trump on Friday, as right-wing media fanned theories of a shadowy network working against the president.

When asked if the White House suspected there was such a thing as "THE DEEP STATE" resisting the new administration, Mr Spicer referred to former President Barack Obama’s two terms in office: "I think there’s no question when you have eight years of one party in office that stays in government [they’re] affiliated with, joined [to] and continue to espouse the agenda of the previous administration.

“I don’t think it should come as any surprise that there are people burrowed into government during eight years of the last administration and may have believed in that agenda and want to continue to seek it. I don’t think that should come as a surprise to anyone."

His comments came a day after Fox News's Sean Hannity, a supporter of Mr Trump, called for a "purge" of "deep-state Obama holdovers."

On Friday, Jeff Sessions, the US Attorney General, abruptly asked the remaining 46 chief federal prosecutors left over from the Obama administration to resign. While the timing prompted speculation this was part of such a "purge", officials have rejected the claims.

But where did the term come from and why is it being used now?

What is "THE DEEP STATE" '?

The term refers to a secretive network within government that operates outside the democratic system. It originated in 1950s Turkey, where it was used to describe a clandestine group of individuals across government, linked to retired generals and mafia groups. According to the Economist, it purportedly worked to maintain secularism through "sponsored killings and engineered riots" without the consent of the country's leaders or top military officials.

The New York Times used the term in reference to Turkey in 1997, defining it as "a set of obscure forces that seem to function beyond the reach of the law".

It has since been deployed when describing influential groups within authoritarian governments in countries like Egypt and Russia.

Fear of the "deep state" still resonates in modern day Turkey. It "became such common currency that it allowed (Turkish President Recep Tayyip) Erdogan's [ruling] government to cripple Turkey's democratic checks and balances, including media and courts,” Soner Cagaptay, a Turkey expert at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, told the Atlantic. "I think Erdogan's agenda was not eliminating it, it was taking it over."

The term has gained popularity in the US in recent years, particularly in reference to the intelligence community. When Edward Snowden's leaks revealed details of mass surveillance conducted by the US, one Wall Street Journal opinion writer wondered if it was being carried out by "a deep state consisting of our intelligence and security agencies".

It has since been used to describe the series of leaks that led to the resignation of Michael Flynn, Mr Trump's former National Security Adviser, and that have plagued his Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

Donald Trump has attacked the leaks that led to the resignation of Michael Flynn:

Who's using the term ?

Not Mr. Trump. While his press secretary has not ruled out the existence of a "deep state" working against the president, Mr Trump has not yet used the term - despite his repeated tirades against those leaking information.

However, many figures in the White House are reportedly using the term. Steve Bannon, Mr Trump's chief strategist and former editor of Breitbart News, has spoken with Mr Trump at length about his view that the “deep state” is a direct threat to his presidency, the Washington Post reported.

White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon reportedly believes a "deep state" is working against Mr Trump Credit: EPAIn the media, Hannity has been one of the loudest voices to warn of the dangers of a "deep state". On Thursday, he called for Mr Trump to “purge” the executive branch of Obama-era bureaucrats and appointees.

Comparing the situation to former President Lincoln on the eve of the Civil War, he said: "He fired over 75 percent, nearly 1,200 people out of 1,500 bureaucrats that worked in the executive branch that President Abraham Lincoln feared could be disloyal. It’s time now for President Trump to follow Abraham Lincoln’s example and fire anyone and everyone who was actively working against him in government."

Breitbart News has also published many stories about "deep state-gate". One article last month, headlined "Insiders: Obama Holdover 'Shadow Government' Plotting to Undermine Trump", cited "several intelligence insiders" in saying that Mr Flynn's resignation was the "first great success" of this shadowy campaign.

Last month, Republican congressman Thomas Massie told CNN he disagreed with "a lot of people here in Washington and maybe some supporters of Trump who say that this is an effort by the Obama administration to undermine the Trump administration." "I'm worried it's something deeper than that," Massie said. "I'm concerned that it's an effort on those who want a provocation with Russia or other countries to sort of push the president in the direction. So I don't think it's Trump vs. Obama, I think it's really the Deep State vs. the president, the duly elected president."

But it's not just those on the political right who are using the term. Glenn Greenwald, the journalist who reported on Edward Snowden's NSA leaks, has also deployed the phrase recently. "The Deep State unleashed its tawdriest and most aggressive assault yet on Trump," he wrote in January in The Intercept, following revelations that Russia could have compromising information on Mr Trump.

A recent article in the London Review of Books also discussed "the dangerous fantasy" among liberals that "the deep state might rescue us" from a Trump government.

So is there a "DEEP STATE" at work?

Whether you believe the existence of a "deep state" working to undermine the US president depends on how you define and use the term.

Nicole Hemmer, an academic at the University of Virginia and the University of Sydney's US Studies Centre, says the phrase has been more rhetorical than descriptive.

"Are there ways people within the intelligence community and federal bureaucracy are trying to slow down the Trump administration? Sure," she told ABC News. "Is that some shadowy government that secretly runs the country? Not at all."

Many experts say it is wrong to use the term, saying the political climate in the US cannot be compared to regimes such as in Turkey.

"[The White House] is taking a sexy term that means something very real in an environment in which there has been a lot of violence associated with this term and we’re applying it to stuff that’s pretty normal in terms of a large bureaucracy," Nate Schenkaan, a project director at Freedom House, told Time. "These are state employees and they have been implementing their jobs faithfully for a long time."

Timur Kuran, a professor at Duke University, also rejected the idea, saying a "deep state" requires an organised network. "[Leaks are] evidence of people upset with the bureaucracy and upset with individual policies, but doesn’t in itself point to an organisational hierarchy to systematically undermine the government,” Professor Kuran told the magazine.

The rise of a "deep state" can be likened to another buzz term - "fake news". The latter phrase has been co-opted by politicians and commentators to mean anything they disagree with - rendering the term meaningless. Mr Trump said recently "any negative polls are fake news".

The White House Press Secretary, responding to a question from the press pack that he appeared to consider trivial, quipped: “Don’t make me make this podium move”, a reference to the routine in which Ms McCarthy lampoons his famously combative style.

The underlying premise of the impression is that Mr Spicer often reacts angrily to questions he does not like, and his uncharacteristic good humour had reporters laughing.

Mr Spicer made the joke when he was asked why he and the President had tweeted about employment figures within half an hour of the latest figures being released in violation of federal rules.

Suggesting reporters had trivialised their reporting, Mr Spicer said: “What I understand is that rule was instituted to deal with market fluctuations. I could be wrong, but I believe that's why it was instituted.

"I think tweeting out 'great way to start a Friday, here are the actual numbers that you all have reported' is a bit silly. I mean, don't make me make the podium move.”

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02.15.2017 - I Originally Posted this important, timely Headline, and supporting material.

Remember that the Deep State and the Intelligence Communities have 2 types of Assassination:

1. Character Assassination, used to keep The Target On Focus, or On Track, as is the needed,and proscribed actions, and behavior of The Target.

2. Actual Assassination, used when Removal, sometimes called Executive Action, is deemedappropriate, and necessary for The Target. Since "Their" perceived Martyrdom of JFK, MX, MLK, and RFK has caused on going concerns, Executive Action, like a spice, is used more sparingly. Especially, in the Daylight of our Modern Day Internet and Instant Communication and Analysis of events that occurs daily with lightening speed.

Maybe Trump didn't watch THE ORIGINAL BLACK AND WHITE ZAPRUDER FILM yet ?

TRUMP AND HIS PRESIDENCY HAVE CERTAINLY SETTLED TO THE LEVEL OF A FULL TIMEPARTY JOKE. NEVER HAS A U.S. PRESIDENT BEEN ATTACKED, BELITTLED, AND SLAMMEDWITH THE CONSISTENCY OF NEGATIVE FOCUS AGAINST TRUMP AND HIS ENTIRE CABINET,AND FAMILY. (05.30.2017, BB).

WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS “CONVINCED THEY MAY BE VICTIMS OF DEEP STATE CONSPIRACY:”

The Independent Emily ShugermanThe Independent, May 29, 2017

Donald Trump's adviser Steve Bannon is said to be concerned about a "deep state conspiracy" against the President: Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

Donald Trump has called the investigation into his campaign's ties to Russia “the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history”.

But according to some in the White House, it’s something even worse: a conspiracy.

In the weeks after Mr Trump dismissed former FBI Director James Comey, the White House was hit with a series of damaging leaks, from Mr Trump alleged disclosure of highly classified intelligence to Russian officials, to his son-in-law’s reported attempt to set up back-channel communications with Russia.

The number of leaks coming from inside the government, sources say, have advisers concerned that someone is out to get them.

Commentators on Fox News, Mr Trump’s channel of choice, have helped push the idea that these leaks come from an American “deep state” – a body within the government working to bring down those in power.

Host Sean Hannity, for example, has condemned what he called "deep-state Obama-holdover government bureaucrats who are hell-bent on destroying this president”.

“It’s time for the Trump administration to begin to purge these saboteurs before it’s too late,” he said.

Breitbart News, the right-wing website previously run by Mr Bannon, has also advanced this theory, with headlines like “‘Deep State’ Suspected in EPA Press Release ‘Error’” and “The Deep State Hiding in Plain Sight with Full Coverage”.

Meanwhile, Mr Bannon appears to be benefiting from the theory himself. Axios reports that the once-sidelined presidential adviser is now setting up a "wartime consigliere" for a battle against the "deep state," media, Democrats and investigators.

Even former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich has claimed there are “massive bureaucracies that do whatever they want and set up deliberate leaks to attack the president”.

Axios reports that Mr Trump’s team now have a “unified opponent” in the deep state, political opponents, and “people who just don't want to give up their power”.

Mr Trump, however, has yet to push his adviser’s deep state narrative, focusing on his own favourite opponent: the media.

“It is my opinion that many of the leaks coming out of the White House are fabricated lies made up by the #FakeNews media,” Mr Trump tweeted this weekend.

“Whenever you see the words 'sources say' in the fake news media, and they don't mention names, it is very possible that those sources don't exist but are made up by fake news writers,” he added.

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I doubt Trump has a chance against this group, they have over 50 years experiance and it looks like Trump has lost control of the Helm and is in the backseat. I sure hope he kicks ass and cleans up the fake news and the deepstate , I believe this is our last chance.

Yes, there is a Secret State, but there is also the Donald, who I believe is dirty. When it comes to his administration, just "follow the money" when looking for dirt. Humpty Trumpty has surrounded himself in the White House and in his cabinet with people who have proven time and time again that they are ethically challenged when it comes to acquiring wealth. Examples are Steven Mnuchin, Wilber Ross, Tom Price and on and on. It goes to figure, as when all this comes out, and it will, Trumplestiltskin has been beholden to the Russian oligarchs and Putin in an elaborate money laundering scheme. When a guy has as many bankruptcies as the Donald has had, and then you have the near financial collapse in 2008, where do you think his money is coming from. Mother Russia, baby. That is the main reason Trump won't put out his tax returns. The clues are there. You just have to want to look.

Back to the Deep State. the intelligence agencies play a big part in the Deep State. The CIA, FBI and NSA. When there is real "fake news", they join with the MSM to put it out there. Examples are the JFK assassination, 9/11, the killing of Osama bin laden and the Boston bombing.

What's going on today with all the bad news which is going on in the Trump administration is not fake news, but real news. The intelligence agencies are helping the Washington Post and the New York Times by leaking information to them. Similar to what happened in Watergate, when Mark Felt (Deep Throat) was giving information to Bob Woodward (a former Naval intelligence officer) of the Washington Post.

The intelligence agencies do not like Russia or Putin or the former KGB or the now FSB. They also don't like the fact that Trump has belittled them on several occasions, plus has now fired James Comey and is obviously in bed with Putin, which means the FSB.

There is a reason why Jared Kushner's dad spent time in prison. And it was Chris Christie who put him there too. All I can say is the apple didn't fall far from the tree with Kushner. The Trump and Kushner families have both been helped out with tons of foreign money, mostly from Russia, but also China.

The bottom line, the news is going to get worse for the Donald, as the intelligence agencies have declared war on him and the MSM will keep getting leaks from them to keep exposing more dirt on Trump.