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oops i should have made it a bit clearor, thank you for catching that. i realized that i posted somthing real nebulouse, my bad.

what i was getting at is Stewart Swerdlows Grandfather from Russia, died in Russia, executed by Russian government for Treason, Yogada was a spy for
Nazi Germany, not a spy for Russia in america.

along with that the bulk of those projects were in mind controle, false memories, repressing memories.

the Montauk chair was realy a torture device with the mane purpose of de-breifing a guy like me.

i hope i am on topic, ihave not read the entire thread but i saw the list of what its about and rather than go thorugh it and dredge up all the pain
and trauma i hoped i could have my say.

i am not doing this to be rebeliouse or to act a victim, more like getting to the point.

imagine having thousands of neadles electacuting you at never sites in your body.

Much of the Time Travel had to do with past lives, had also to do with genetics, as in you can travel forward and backwards based on who you are as a
whole.

a guy like Col Aquino loves guys like Preston nichols and Duncan,,,,,,,,,by the way Duncan got that way because he went up against someone more adept
than he.

I was taken into the Scotish rite clinic in SF CA around 1975.

up to that point i was having dreams of anceint india from the veiwpoint of Rama.

Here is an image of one of the implants in my neck, i would assume suchan implant would be put there for specific reasons, a dog tag, a way to deleat
or repress memories, ETC.

So my opinion based on the fact of my personal life and other things tell me that this stuff is more a way to brainwash and controle people with
frequencies.

i hope some can look past how forward i am being and understand this has been a 37 year ordeal as well as mission.

Ive met preston nichols while on the east coast in 1987, i remember his shipping container with the equiptment in it one of those big metal ones, i
remember his antena aray and what he realy used it for, i remember the overcast day he had me help him cover it before it rained, the trap hed set to
hit me with a dose of frequency's and repress mymemories.
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So put him with Swerdlow and what i found Stewarts Grandfather real was.
Yagoda was born in Rybinsk into a Jewish family. He joined the Bolsheviks in 1907. Contrary to the rumors invented by himself, Yagoda was never a
pharmacist but in fact an apprentice engraver in Yakov Sverdlov's father's workshop
subsequently married Sverdlov's niece Ida Averbach which permitted him, after the October Revolution of 1917, to be promoted through the ranks of the
Cheka (the NKVD's en.wikipedia.org...
Genrikh Grigoryevich Yagoda (Russian: Ге́нрих Григо́рьевич Яго́да; 7 November 1891–15 March 1938), born Enokh Gershevich
Ieguda (Russian: Енох Гершевич Иегуда) was a director of the NKVD, the Soviet Union's Stalin-era security and intelligence agency,
from 1934 to 1936. Appointed by Joseph Stalin, Yagoda supervised the arrest, show trial, and execution of the Old Bolsheviks Lev Kamenev and Grigory
Zinoviev, events that manifested the beginnings of the Great Purge.
Like many Soviet secret policemen of the 1930s, Yagoda was ultimately a victim of the Purge himself. He was demoted from the directorship of the NKVD
in favor of Nikolai Yezhov in 1936, and arrested in 1937. Charged with the standard crimes of wrecking, espionage, Trotskyism, and conspiracy, Yagoda
was a defendant at the Trial of the Twenty-One, the last of the major Soviet show trials of the 1930s. Following his confession at the trial, Yagoda
was found guilty and shot.

i hope this helps solve some of the questions as to all of this stuff, if it does not and is way off base, deleating the posts is easy enough,

Disgrace

Initially Yagoda became People's Commissar for Post and Telecommunications. However in March 1937, he was arrested on Stalin's orders. Yezhov
announced Yagoda's arrest for diamond smuggling, corruption and spying for Germany since joining the party in 1907. Yezhov even sprinkled mercury
around his office, then blamed it on Yagoda trying to assassinate him. Yagoda's two Moscow apartments and his dacha contained 3,904 pornographic
photos, 11 pornographic films, 165 pornographic pipes, one dildo and the two bullets that killed Zinoviev and Kamenev.[7] Yezhov took over the
apartments. The charge of corruption at least was accurate. He had spent four million roubles decorating his three homes, boasting that his garden had
'2,000 orchids and roses'.[8]
During the trial of Radek and Piatakov (Trial of the Seventeen), Yagoda extracted confessions from the defendants, thus revealing inadvertently that
the men did not have any political differences with Stalin, a fact the Soviet state prosecutor was unable to challenge. This infuriated Stalin, as it
implied that he had eliminated the defendants solely to maintain his own political power. Yagoda had already earned Stalin's enmity eight years
earlier, when he had expressed sympathy for Nikolai Bukharin, whom Stalin had forced from power.
As one Soviet official put it, "The Boss forgets nothing."[9] Yagoda was found guilty of treason and conspiracy against the Soviet government at the
Trial of the Twenty One in March 1938. Solzhenitsyn describes Yagoda as trusting in deliverance from Stalin even during the show trial itself:
Just as though Stalin had been sitting right there in the hall, Yagoda confidently and insistently begged him directly for mercy: "I appeal to you!
For you I built two great canals!" And a witness reports that at just that moment a match flared in the shadows behind a window on the second floor
of the hall, apparently behind a muslin curtain, and, while it lasted, the outline of a pipe could be seen.[10]
Yagoda was shot soon after the trial as were 3,000 of his NKVD supporters. His successor and former deputy Yezhov ordered the guards to strip Yagoda
naked and beat him for added humiliation just before his execution. Yezhov himself would suffer exactly the same treatment at the order of his
successor and former deputy, Lavrenti Beria, before dying by the same executioner (NKVD Chief Executioner Vasili Blokhin) just two years later.[11]
[edit]Honours and awards

This article incorporates information from the equivalent article on the Russian Wikipedia.
Order of Lenin
Order of the Red Banner, twice (1927, 1930)
Order of the Red Banner of Labour of the RSFSR (1932)

Starred and flagged for a great and informative thread. Residents say all kinds of strange things happen there, like birds flying in circles, and wild
animals charging through town. some have witnessed the old Sage Radar moving. Why would it move if the Air Station is now defunct?

I have been told that my Father, whom I never saw to remember, worked there while in Naval Intelligence. I have seen pay stubs and orders, but have
none to show. From my own research, the Montauk Crew originated the first computers, and worked for years on Project Rainbow.

Rather than try to address different points made in this thread, I'll just throw out some food for thought.

Tesla, Kozyrev, and Higgs Bosun:
Kaluza-Klein theory shows that what we see as 3D space is actually multidimensional. Tesla said that the "ether" reacted differently to solid
objects and to light, which reflects the multidimensional aspect of reality and that the different levels cause "strings" to behave differently not
only due to the nature of their "vibrations" but what level of our multidimensional universe they're currently in. The research with Higgs Bosun
echoes much of ether theory.

Gravity, Electricity, and Magnetism:
Einstein said that gravity was a "curvature of space". But that really refers to the analogy of a marble sitting on a cloth distorting the cloth so
that it "curves". Typical flatlander analogy. As I see it, gravity is not a "curvature" but a full on 3D distortion of the ether / quantum medium,
so that gravity is a matter of bouyancy. Tesla's work with the giant lightning bolts in his lab was him creating pressure differentiations within the
electromagnetic levels of our multidimensional universe, keeping in mind that our model of atoms is to be collections of positive and negative
electrical charges. Magnetism is a little more complicated. It's a matter of a cross dimensional flow of the quantum medium. In more politically
correct terms, it's a Kaluza-Klein based cross dimensional manifestation of the Higgs Bosun Field. Thus iron filings line up within the flux fields,
but don't move outside their physical existance. They just get pushed around as some level of the quantum medium moves from one point to another that
to us looks like the same point in 3 dimensional space.

Special Theory of Relativity and Stargates:
Einstein shows in special theory that as something approaches the speed of light that it's relative mass increases. Now that doesn't have to mean it
gains mass or that kinetic energy makes up the matter/energy difference. Rather that moving objects may cause alterations in the density of the ether
/ quantum medium, as per the Russian astrophysicist Kozyrev's research. Thus the amount of matter relative to the density of the quantum medium
affets percieved / relative mass. If we consider that something can cause a significant distortion of the ether / quantum medium, we could conceivable
push it to a breaking point.

Mercury and TV shows:
In one episode of Ancient Aliens, we see reference to an ancient text in India that describes a container of what appers to be mercury inside what is
considered a spaceship. While in operation it gives off a bright light. In electronics, mercury was used in flourescent lights. When a current was
passed across it, it would vaporize. The thing is that when current is passed through it, it creates an electron cascade, and not just a neat orderly
flow. An electromagnetic chaos. Spinning / oscillating that electromagnetic chaos just right could conceibably create a sufficient distortion, charged
particles in motion, to use as a Stargate type of transportation.

Consequences:
The problem comes in with, if we make a hole, where does the hole go? Tesla's work with projecting energy required antennas that had the same size
shape and mass. Likewise, as in some video games and movies, you'd need a send and recieve resonating with each other. You screw that up, there's no
telling where you might wind up. The bigger problem is, if you screw that up bad enough, you might take your neighbors with you.

Originally posted by Assassin Hybrid
why dosent anyone just try to replicate the experiment on a smaller scale to see if it really does work... say on a metal model of a ship?

I was reading about the refraction and reflection of light using the Fresnell and Snell's law terms. The amount of light reflected is determined by
whether electric currents are present in the material - why some metals are shiny and some aren't. If you could have some electric control over the
refractive-index of the material, it would be possible to become invisible.

AH! now ive heard something interesting from someone i know who worked on shadow projects.. He knew things about programs i was a part of that he
could not have known had he not been there... This guy was a pretty accomplished scientist who claims too have worked in project paperclip.. Anyway.
What he said...

(sorry about my horrible spelling)

The eldridge was carrying a type of element that the nazi's found it was a giant ball of what appeared too be murcury.. But had reactive properties
too whatever environment it came into contact with... he said that it was aboard a ship because the gravity pull against caused by the speed of the
craft while on a plane caused it too expand... certain elements caused it too turn solid and completely inpenetrable... One of the tests they did it
he claimed caused a blackout on europes westcoast.

While in the hull of the eldridge it began reverberating the radar waves off of the towers of long island and created a energy field in conjunction
with the water causing it too phase out of 3d and into 4d .. And this is why the crew were fused into the deck.. durring the shift they didnt have
mass too stay stationary.

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