I have been a fan/student of the Dog Brothers and DBMA thinking and training methods for quite a while. Im finally in a position to get a copy of Kali Tudo and I am extremely excited about this. I've already thrown my class and Teachers many curves with the information I've been lucky enough to absorb from prior DB videos. Although, sometimes they don't seem to like me venturing far from the "expected moves". HAHA ...

Anyway, I was curious with the results others were getting with the information and training in regards to Kali Tudo and the Kali/Silat/KK in the MMA world. Guro Crafty, could you give us an update on some of the MMA fighters associated with Dog Brothers?

I would also love to hear from others with any input.

Thank you again in advance for any responses. Time is precious and I certainly appreciate that anybody would share their time with me.

"People really need to get the Kali Tudo material if they haven't already. I've trained guys in MMA for a while now and have been in the martial arts for over 15 yrs......this Kali Tudo material is by far some of the most innovative stuff out right now in the MA world! It's open the doors of possibility and truly changes the game of fighting. Adding these concepts to my game has really caused new headaches for my sparring partners. "

I thought the boxing light heavyweight title fight between Pascal and Hopkins several days ago quite good. I wouldn't have scored the first knockdown a knockdown and would have given the decision to Hopkins (45 years old vs. Pascal's 28! Go Hopkins!!!) but of relevance to this thread were the first few rounds of the fight, which were clearly won by Pascal (and kudos to Hopkins for keeping his mind right and turning the fight around).

To my eye, Pascal threw a number of successful zirconias though he began going to the well a bit too often I thought. Like Rua's knock out of Chuck Liddell, the punch was more of a hook than a straight and there was no cutting of the corner of the diamond to the point of the diamond, but this is a move that was not really seen until , , , sometime after the release of Kali Tudo 1 Of course, the move existed before KT1 and I certainly can't say that Rua, Pascal, or their trainers watched KT1, but it is an interesting coincidence. At the very least, the people who doubted the zirconia when they first saw it in KT1 need to reconsider. Indeed I know of a few who have reconsidered to the point of their saying it was nothing new and has been there all along.

A few monts ago C-Guard Dog sent me a clip of a Nate Diaz fight in which he did something very much like a Dracula , , , without the footwork and, by out criteria perhaps with the less preferred hand for how things were lined up, but looking like a Dracula nonetheless. C-GD wondered in Nate had been watching our Kali Tudo DVDs This week Nate had a very interesting fight which he finished in the final seconds of the first round which had some strikes which looked to my eye similar to things I have been showing in our DVDs. Certainly I can't say he has been watching our DVDs! but it would tickle my vanity greatly if he were , , ,

I showed Dan Theodore some of my Kali Tudo a few years back and was pleasantly surprised to see his post on my FB page:

"Hey Marc, wanted to let you know, I sparred a VERY well known fighter today light Box-Heavy Wrestling w MMA gloves and tried out your Kali Tudo Entry you showed me years ago.....I got right to my Underhook! Think punch might of landed too had it been full on IDK. Respect!"

"I am a professional MMA fighter with a record of 8-0. Currently I am a member of the Black House team, a team which includes fighters such as Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida. I have been training "Kali Tudo" with Marc Denny for several months now and I can see a great difference in my fight strategy. I am finding a great ease in attacking my opponents in different angles and distances. I have also learned new ways of striking with which I was not familiar. They are working well for me and I train them daily, they help me more every day, and I look forward to using "Kali Tudo" in my next fight."

When I developed "the Zirconia" (a jab transitioning through on false lead on the outside diamond triangle-- false + diamond = zirconia, my idea of funny) I was applying a footwork that I had used with success in stickfighting with a Lameco combination three. It was not until about 10-12 years later (a year ago from now) that I saw some footage of GM Tatang Ilustrisimo (he being of great influence on my techer Punong Guro Edgar Sulite) sparring on youtube and saw him use this as a special move. I confess to feeling rather clever at having intuited on my own something that this great master of FMA used.

Anyway, I took the concept (jab with a simultaneous forward diagonal step with the year foot finishing with a cross with the other foot stepping to complete the triangle) and applied it to "Kali Tudo".

Shogun Rua knocked out Chuck Liddel with the first half of this, though the punch was more of a long hook than a straight punch because Chuck was moving to his right).

Guard Dog posted a clip not a few months ago here of a complete Zirconia being used for a KO in an MMA fight in India.

"I am a professional MMA fighter with a record of 8-0. Currently I am a member of the Black House team, a team which includes fighters such as Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida. I have been training "Kali Tudo" with Marc Denny for several months now and I can see a great difference in my fight strategy. I am finding a great ease in attacking my opponents in different angles and distances. I have also learned new ways of striking with which I was not familiar. They are working well for me and I train them daily, they help me more every day, and I look forward to using "Kali Tudo" in my next fight."

"A good stickgrappler has good stick skills, good grappling, and good stickgrappling and can keep track of all three simultaneously. This is a good trick and can be quite effective." - Marc "Crafty Dog" Denny

"A good stickgrappler has good stick skills, good grappling, and good stickgrappling and can keep track of all three simultaneously. This is a good trick and can be quite effective." - Marc "Crafty Dog" Denny

In the second GIF we see a Dracula combo (horizontal elbow-backfist). Yes the backfist does not have all that much zip on it (he's moving away in this moment instead on moving in), but it is very nice to see the KT movement beginning to express. Ideally in KT this combo is 2/3 of a triplet, with the hammer fist being a momentary continuation of the OODA loop disruption of the elbow setting up a strong shot from the other hand.

In the fifth one we see the Pedro's right caveman to the arm flow into a right hand to the head. Although the left arm is not in Dracula, what the right hand does here is a combo from Arfful Dodger.Again it is but 2/3 of the whole KT combination, with the third note of the triplet being the power backhand (what we call "the Dodger" in memory of a certain story) either as the first or third note of the triplet.

"A good stickgrappler has good stick skills, good grappling, and good stickgrappling and can keep track of all three simultaneously. This is a good trick and can be quite effective." - Marc "Crafty Dog" Denny

We are hoping that this is the fight where he steps through the looking glass and really brings some Kali Tudo.

Pedro Munhoz fights Keoni Koch for the RFA 135 pound title on Friday August 16th at the "Stubhub Center" (310-630-2020) at 18400 Avalon Blvd. in Carson (part of Los Angeles) Tickets at axs.com or cagetix.com

Here too we are hoping to see Pedro bring the KT; the "problem" is that he is winning handily without it

Stepped into the laboratory (cage) over the weekend. Fought a tough kid 5-0 holds several championship belts and is a Juco national wrestling champ. So i had my work cut out for me but I knew what I had to do. Bottom line I lost the fight - 1st round 2:11 TKO

I started off in the Dracula structure - low and knees bent. As the bell rang, I began to circle slow and then gained speed as I entered in with the a backhand followed by an uppercut. I felt the backhand could have had a bit more on it.... but the uppercut made up for it.After that I remember my opponent covering and becoming stationary. THIS IS WHERE I F*CK#D UP!!!! Instead of "Stinking Him" I backed off and assessed the damage and posed for the cameras. Thats when he decided enough of this and just took me down. After we rolled for a bit and beat on me the ref called it. I took some of his best shots and walked out just fine which I am about.

Spoke with my opponent and his corner man after the fight. They both were thrown off by the appearance of the Dracula structure. Both had no idea what was about to happen and it freaked them out a bit. The response in the fight from my opponent was to cover and weather the storm. Which is Y I am WHEN WE HAVE ADVANTAGE, WE TAKE ADVANTAGE.... HE IS THE TURD AND WE ARE THE SMELL WHEREVER HE GOES WE FOLLOW!!! AND IF IS STANDING STILL COVERING UP WE KEEP BEATING ON HIM, CIRCLING TOWARDS HIS BACK AND DOING OTHER COOL MARTIAL ARTS AND CRAFTS !!!

This is how I recall the fight... plz keep in mind I took some good shots to the head When I get some video I will post it.

"On a different note we have been playing with the KT Clinch material quite a bit in the past few days.

"We are fortunate to have several highly skilled athletes in our school. On Monday we hold our sparring classes. Contact is usually fairly heavy and pretty much anything other than elbows is allowed though even then those tend to sneak in under control.

"Anyway, Johnathan was going with Ivan, who was a golden gloves boxer about 15 years ago. John was able to get behind him and take him down consistently using the Dodger and the harness to single combination. He has always had trouble with Ivan before.

"Another of our students, Felix, was a line backer for the 49ers. I had great success bringing him down using Time Machine to get his back. He would try to pull forward from the half nelson and I would end up with either seatbelt or single leg and end up in side control every time. Due to his size and strength I have never been able to do that before.

Though with a championship shot on the line Pedro understandably chose to not apply Kali Tudo for the first time a hearty howl of congratulations on his winning the RFA title in his ninth fight against a fighter with fifty two fights under challenging conditions (a very wet and slippery ring).

I just spoke with Pete. We should have the whole fight in a few days. Pete's comment was that in the first round he was using some Dodger to Cross out of the Dracula Fang but the guy was getting some duck unders and that the latter half of the first round was tough for him. The footage you see here https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201088038140897&set=vb.1166915475&type=2&theater is from the second round. Look closely and you will see that the guy is looking to drop under the Dracula Fang and eats a knee/shin to the face. Apparently he was dropped so hard that a stretcher was brought in and he was still on queer street thirty minutes later.

I'd rather have seen a sprawl instead of pull to guard after the Dodger-Cross-Kick combo in round one but very nice to see him bringing the KT game to bear. He took a cut to the left eyelid later in the round, probably after he took that shot to the groin.

Pete tells me his sense of things was that in Round Two the guy was weirded out by the Dracula Fang structure and sought to by pass it with a tackle-- with the results you see here.

I was over at Black House today and watched Lyoto (looking very sharp at 185 for his fight with Munoz) and Glover T. spar in the cage. Great rapport between the two as Glover, spelled by others, pushed Lyoto hard. Afterwards, Lyoto and I chatted a bit.