I've just had a quick glance at the link to JATYK2 as the idea that anyone could actually defend anything "written" by the Clown Princess Antonella Lazzeri was irresistible. Gillyspot and someone from the MM forum (talking about sea bass) have also been singled out for derision by the Broomstick Brigade.

I didn't know that Murat fan contributes there. That really says it all - no forum which allows this cyber psycho to continue as a member can be taken seriously.

Apparently, my e-mails were rude, aggressive and hysterical but Ms Lazzeri 'slapped me down' - well the whole transcript is there folks. Does it look to you like I was 'slapped down'?

I'm not usually insulting but how thick are this lot or can they not read? Expressing surprise that Lorraine Kelly didn't 'slap me down' too - I quite clearly showed that the e-mail bounced back - she didn't receive it!!!

Oh and a message to Maggs if you or one of your cronies are reading this; Take your empty threats and put them where the sun don't shine! Ms Lazzeri HAS my e-mail address, and YES, I was brave enough to include my real name too!!!

And yes, I am well aware of how I look by those deluded enough to believe whatever s**t they are fed... Do I care? Not a plank!

Truth is artless and innocent - like the eloquence of nature, it is clothed with simplicity and easy persuasion; always open to investigation and analysis, it seeks exposure because it fears not detection.

Those idiots can never get on in the real world....They would be instantly rejected and this is their only way of having any self importance in their little bubble of hatred. Not worth spending a single bit of energy or time over, in the real world they are totally insignificant & ignored. Be thankful you don't hold this amount of hate and evil inside you and can live as a real decent human being

@jd wrote:Those idiots can never get on in the real world....They would be instantly rejected and this is their only way of having any self importance in their little bubble of hatred. Not worth spending a single bit of energy or time over, in the real world they are totally insignificant & ignored. Be thankful you don't hold this amount of hate and evil inside you and can live as a real decent human being

Oh I am thankful jd. The ironic thing is my e-mails were accused of being full of bile and hate! Just because I said I reserve my sympathy for the children who truly had no say!Oh - and I'm hysterical (now that is hysterical in itself!!! At least I can read and come to an informed opinion. Seems they base their 'opinions' on propaganda and hysterical nonsense from Ms Healy/Mrs McCann... I actually pity them in a way. And that's my last word, because as you quite rightly point out, they aren't worth bothering with and their flip-out over this speaks volumes imho...

Truth is artless and innocent - like the eloquence of nature, it is clothed with simplicity and easy persuasion; always open to investigation and analysis, it seeks exposure because it fears not detection.

Truth is artless and innocent - like the eloquence of nature, it is clothed with simplicity and easy persuasion; always open to investigation and analysis, it seeks exposure because it fears not detection.

@friedtomatoes wrote:Anyone who reads that forum needs their head examined. I suspect they are all on lithium or something similar.

Curiosity got the better of me... I strongly suspect they have all had frontal lobotomies, ECT or most likely both. Oh, and they seem to suffer 'foul mouth' Tourette's, too...

Best without them lol, nothing but a haven of lies spite hatred denial delusion and the rest, their own raison detre Im afraid. The fact also they support a mentally disturbed couple whomurdered their child because it makes mr amaral look suspect is indeed vomit inducing.

@friedtomatoes wrote:Anyone who reads that forum needs their head examined. I suspect they are all on lithium or something similar.

Curiosity got the better of me... I strongly suspect they have all had frontal lobotomies, ECT or most likely both. Oh, and they seem to suffer 'foul mouth' Tourette's, too...

Best without them lol, nothing but a haven of lies spite hatred denial delusion and the rest, their own raison detre Im afraid. The fact also they support a mentally disturbed couple whomurdered their child because it makes mr amaral look suspect is indeed vomit inducing.

Yep. The fact they also seem to support Leonor Cipriano whose poor daughter Joana was brutally murdered and her body fed to pigs just because she happened to walk in and discover Leonor having it away with her own brother (Joana's Uncle)...The things I've seen written about GA are despicable, 'fat cop' being the least offensive - the worst I think the insinuation that he had something to do with the 'abduction' - this I've all gleaned from my two, and only, visits. Never again!

Truth is artless and innocent - like the eloquence of nature, it is clothed with simplicity and easy persuasion; always open to investigation and analysis, it seeks exposure because it fears not detection.

@tigger wrote:I only looked once, a month or so ago. Rather disappointing, the lay-out and colours used are rather depressive. Why not a bit more pink?

At the time I looked there' wasn't a lot going on - it felt rather like a sad little church with a dwindling congregation.....

Dwindling congregation! What congregation? I don't see any when I looked in once upon a time It was just one bonny arse talking to her socks.

Sometimes you have to wonder why don't they volunteer themselves to the mccanns to help them in their search for Maddie if they believe the mcconns.

Why did they choose to be peeping toms at this forum and then spread their vernom when they didn't like what they read. Its seem we fascinate bonny arse to no end. She simply enjoys our posts so much she cannot resist our charming intelligence. She must be just SO jealous of our intellect.

I had already tried the email address on there donal@bbc.co.uk, but it bounced with a non delivery receipt.

Technical details of permanent failure: Google tried to deliver your message, but it was rejected by the recipient domain. We recommend contacting the other email provider for further information about the cause of this error. The error that the other server returned was: 550 550 Invalid recipient <donal@bbc.co.uk> (#5.1.1) (state 13).

Could be his mailbox if full, or server was down, but invalid recipient implies the address doesn't exist. I'll try again today. If unsuccessful I'll fill in the web form on that page.

Very disappointing. I tried the donal@bbc.co.uk e-mail 3 times with no success, so I tried filling in the radio 5 online web form to say the e-mail wasn't working. No reponse from that either. I have also tried donalreporter@gmail.com which is the other one from his company website. It didn't bounce, but it is from an older article and may not be being checked regularly. If anyone comes across contact details for him other than these I'd love it if you could post them here for me.

My 3rd and last visit to the cess-pit that is JATYK2 was Friday and I am wondering if anyone can tell me... if there is a complaint about a forum's content, will it need censoring in order to avoid it having to close down, or might a forum consider self-censorship if it has already had a warning? The reason I ask is I had a quick look there Friday [ I know I know], because I wonder why if they ridicule the EVRD dogs, they waste energy on writing pages and pages about them. I noted a topic on the France shootings and started to read. It was disgusting, I won't repeat the language even using**** which was used about 2 members here, where comments were taken out of context and misinterpreted in a vile way. I noticed on Saturday the entire topic had disappeared [ I intended to copy the posts and find out to whom I could complain]......only to reappear yesterday , not with amended posts, but the really disgusting and offensive posts removed. 3rd and final visit, I will leave the mob to rant amongst themselves, nothing to add to any debate, just blind faith and a hatred of strangers who I must say have never to my knowledge written anything so disgusting about them.I hope the forum is closed down if such a thing is possible, it is a disgrace.

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The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie — deliberate, contrived and dishonest — but the myth — persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.~John F. Kennedy

Yes, I see now why people here say they feel contaminated after reading there. My reason for taking a peek was because I had read about mistranslated files and I was trying to get a direction to the alleged authentic ones, without much success. What I did discover and read showed no difference in meaning and I never managed to find out why the so-called "genuine" files are any more reliable than the many I have read as being the official files released. Anyway enough is enough and after the disgusting exhibition there on Friday, I will as you rightly advise, ignore it. Best pretend it does not exist. I hope it disappears for real.

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The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie — deliberate, contrived and dishonest — but the myth — persistent, persuasive and unrealistic.~John F. Kennedy

I think this topic could do with another airing, especially the first few pages.

IMO we are doing nothing but reacting to the rotten fruit thrown in by the press. Endless discussions of ridiculous notions. Exactly what those who are somewhat worried about a forum such as this want.

'They want to discuss, we'll give them rubbish to discuss'.

By now we must have in the region of fifty or so new topics on the latest headline - headlines which by now look as if they're the work of a hundred monkeys given plenty of bananas and a typewriter each.

Don't know about other people, but I feel a little insulted by this bombardment of nonsense.

Well said Tigger. Round and round in circles. These stupid headlines are not worth discussing. We established that a good while back, but we still get drawn in. Duh. Money being made from clicks on the site imo.

Eddie and Keela alerted to items and places concerned with the McCanns - and importantly to no other items or places.

According to Eddie and Keela, the body of Madeleine McCann lay lifeless behind the sofa in Apartment 5a, clinging to the only thing from which she could derive any comfort; a soft toy called 'Cuddle cat'.

Kate's book 'madeleine', Page 219: "Did they really believe that a dog could smell the 'odour of death' three months later from a body that had been so swiftly removed?"

After forensic analysis of the 'Last Photo' there is little doubt now that the pool photo CANNOT POSSIBLY have been taken on the Thursday 3rd May, but most likely on the Sunday 29th April. So, where was Madeleine at lunchtime on Thursday?

John McCann:"This was terrible for them, Kate dressed Amelie in her sister's pyjamas and the baby said: "Maddy's jammies, where is Maddy?"Martin Roberts:"If Madeleine's pyjamas had not, in fact, been abducted then neither had Madeleine McCann."Dr Martin Roberts: A Nightwear Job

Death Toll in McCann Case

Gerry McCann called for an example to be made of 'trolls'. SKY reporter Martin Brunt doorstepped Brenda Leyland on 2 October 2014 after a 'Dossier' was handed in to Police by McCann supporters. She was then found dead in a Leicester hotel room the next day. Brenda paid the price.

Colin Shalke died suddenly in mysterious circumstances with a significant amount of morphine in his system. At the Inquest the coroner said there was no evidence as to how he had come to take morphine, and no needle mark was found.

Ex-Met DCI Andy Redwood had a "revelation moment" on BBC1's Crimewatch on 14th October 2013 when he announced that Operation Grange had eliminated the Tanner sighting - which opened up the 'window' of opportunity' from 3 mins to 45 mins, in accordance with their remit, to allow the staged abduction to happen.

Dr Gonçalo Amaral, retired PJ Coordinator: "The English can always present the conclusions to which they themselves arrived in 2007. Because they know, they have the evidence of what happened, they don't need to investigate anything. When MI5 opens their files, then we will know the truth."

Tracey Kandohla: "A McCann pal told The Sun Online: "Some of the savings have been siphoned off from the Find Maddie Fund into a fixed asset account, which financial experts have advised them to do. It can be used for purchases like buying a house or building equipment."

The McCanns, Operation Grange and the BBC are all working towards one goal - to make us keep looking at what happened (or didn't happen) on 3rd May, instead of looking at what happened days earlier. There is NO evidence of an abduction. Smithman is ALL they have got. Without that, they are sunk. No wonder Operation Grange clings on to Smithman...