Tag: venus

Someone new to astrology, on Reddit, asked about the differences between having Moon, Mercury and Venus in Virgo. The person posting indicated that the descriptions all seemed to be the same and wanted help on how to differentiate them.

I’ve decided to share my reply here. One note, a reply asked about the meaning of “creature comforts.” This is a phrase that refers to things that are physically comforting.

Signs are styles of expression. Virgo is mutable earth. Virgo wants to get it right, to perfect, to analyze.

While there are elements of seeking perfection, analysis, and service in all of the general descriptions for these planets in Virgo, you have to go deeper into the planet’s energy to see the differences.

Moon in Virgo people have a Virgo temperament. They need to feel useful, to be of service. They are often drawn to work in healthcare and music. They need to be busy, to multitask. They take care of people by doing things for them. They need creature comforts.

Virgo in Mercury people have a mind that wants to analyze everything and pick it apart to understand it. They want to know the why of everything, how things work. They think logically and seek to apply what they know in practical applications.

Venus in Virgo people love perfection. They will pick things apart to find the beauty and perfection in it. They want to give tangible presents to people they love.

Venus in Virgo loves puzzles and may be drawn to problem solving, but doesn’t necessarily want to take care of others or be of service to them like the Moon in Virgo. They may more drawn to research versus medicine.

Venus in Virgo may love words and read a lot, but aren’t necessarily drawn to writing or working in a library like Mercury in Virgo.

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I have rediscovered reddit recently and have been answering some Astrology questions there. This morning I replied to a guy with Moon square Venus and thought I would share my answer in a blog post:

Moon square Venus is a really hard aspect to deal with in relationships. Squares create a forced awareness and there’s almost a competition between the two energies. People with this aspect can have loving, lasting relationships. I’ve seen it. I get that it feels really frustrating right now, try to resist the urge to tell yourself it’s hopeless. It’s not.

My advice is to continue on a path of self-discovery and self-acceptance in a conscious, purposeful way. It’s important for you to understand what you value and live a life of integrity.
There’s likely some karmic history where your values and emotional needs were at odds with each other. This could have played out in many ways. For example, marrying for money or someone your family forced on you. The moon is also food and survival, so your karmic past could include doing things to survive that went against your values. Sometimes people with this aspect think they are horrible people, when they haven’t done anything really terrible in this life.

The more you can own your values, act with integrity and open yourself up emotionally (even when it’s hard) the more you will become aware of what this aspect is teaching you and learn how the energies can work together.

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Astrology is fascinating and can lead to many personal insights. It can be tempting though to generalize and idealize something like signs or aspects, and also the reverse, to write off someone or think you’re doomed because of something you see in a chart. Remember that the natal chart itself is neutral information and contains no inherent judgements. When you see something really challenging in your chart or someone else, look at it as an opportunity. It’s a flashing neon sign giving you information that can help you focus, rather than a doomsday warning.

You always have a choice, Astrology doesn’t remove that. Astrology can help you to understand why you’ve made some of your choices and help you to understand the choices available.

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The higher octave planets are Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. The planets represent energies in the chart, so think of these higher octaves as higher vibrations of the three personal planets they connect to, namely Mercury, Venus and Mars.

Mercury is the rational mind, how we communicate via language. It’s what we believe makes sense. Mercury can show how we learn, how we take in information, how we process information. Uranus is the higher octave of Mercury and it is the “ah ha” within it is. Uranus is the moment of discovery, our ability to see the connection between seemingly unconnected things. It is the stroke of genius that brings information together and forms something new – discovery, invention, innovation. Uranus is also how we differentiate ourselves, our sense of individuality. It is how we experience and express our uniqueness while staying connected to the whole, to the universe, to each other.

Venus is our value system. It’s how we give and receive love. It’s what we prioritize, what we value, what we are able and willing to love. It’s how we perceive beauty. Neptune is the higher octave of Venus and it is our ability to be love. It is our intuition, our compassion, our ability to empathize, to feel what others feel. Neptune is our creative energy and is visionary, dreamy, and our need to save and rescue. Neptune is transcendent love and a conduit for the soul’s expression in this life.

Mars is our vitality. It is our ambition, sex drive, physical energy. Mars is the energy that drives us to action. It relates to our body, how we move physically as well as the actions we take in the world. Pluto is the higher octave of Mars and is our will. It is our ability to perceive we have a choice. Pluto is about control, empowerment and transformation and our willingness and ability to surrender to a deeper wisdom that can guide our actions. Pluto is the phoenix that is reborn from the ashes. The soul expresses divine will through Pluto.

When looking at Mercury, Venus, and Mars in a chart always look at their higher octaves. Doing so will give you a deeper view of the energy. Pay attention to aspects formed between these personal planets and their higher octave. Look at how the energies may be working together or at odds and you will have insight into strength and struggles in the chart.

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The moon represents our emotional energy. It’s our temperament. It’s how we relate to our environment, how we process feelings, what feels like home, what nurtures us and how we nurture others. It shows us our beliefs about women coming into this life and gives us insight into our view of not only our own mothers, but also what mothers and mothering is all about. The moon is our base of feminine energy, and also rules our memories and how we attach feelings to anything.

Venus is how we give and receive love. It’s what we value and how we relate to what we value. It’s our self-esteem, it’s what we feel we have to offer the world. It’s our appreciation of art and our ability to see something as beautiful.

We all have both of these energies and we all have ways in which they relate. What aspects show us is how these energies are particularly impacted by each other. Think of dominos. If the dominos are far enough apart, touching one does nothing to the other. However, if they are close enough together, then touching one can make it fall, and knock over the other. Aspects show how energies interact with each other within us and give us insight into how we relate to and process these energies.

For people that do not have moon and Venus in an aspect to each other, there really isn’t any specific interaction or confusion regarding them. These folks will still have their strengths and struggles etc., and much can be learned by their placement in the chart. It just means that these folks process these two energies without each other. So using the short descriptions above, it means that can distinguish more clearly between how they feel about something and how they value it, between their emotions and self-esteem, between what feeds them emotionally and what they choose to be paid to do etc. versus someone with them in aspect to one another.

People that have these two energies forming a major aspect have strong interaction between the energies. This interaction is influenced by the sign, degree, house placement and rest of the chart, but part of learning astrology is about understanding individual pieces, so lets take a closer look at each major moon/venus aspect.

If they are conjunct, they see them as the same. They don’t distinguish between the two. They need their environment to look pleasing to feel at home, they need emotional fulfillment via work they are paid to do, they assign value to feelings. This means they can elevate them as well as sometimes judging them harshly and devaluing them. They value nurturing and take care of those they love. The energies work in a unified way.

If they are square, they see them in competition. They can struggle with believing they can get their emotional needs met by someone they love. They may have a hard time living with someone they love. They may struggle to process their feelings or believe that people won’t love them if they know who what their moods are really like. The energies force awareness of how the person has developed a karmic history that includes lives wherein their emotional needs conflicted with their values or the cultural values.

If they are trine, they experience a flow between them. Emotions easily bring an awareness of what matters to them. Getting their priorities straight, helps them to see how they feel about something. They are emotionally available to people they love. The two energies naturally support each other. There can be a tendency to slide too easily into taking care of people, so they need to remember to take care of themselves too.

If they are quincunx, the two form a neutralizing aspect to one another. This means that the person has a hard time accessing both at the same time. One tends to shut down when the other is very activated. This means people with this aspect can have a hard time knowing how they feel about people or situations that matter a great deal to them. They may have a tendency to be in relationships with people where they don’t feel safe to express their feelings. They may struggle to feel good about where they live. It can be difficult to believe their feelings are valued or that anything they do is worth being paid to do. They may have felt that their mother did not love them. It’s difficult to fully access and express their moon and Venus at the same time. One energy tends to shut down the other.

If they are in opposition, it’s hard to know how to get from one to the other. It’s like when you are driving down the road and you can see where you need to go, but you can’t figure out what exit to take to get over there. There is an awareness of both energies, they are both active, but it’s hard to know how to make them work together. This can tend to feel very frustrating, as if so much in life just never works out or fits together. It can be a struggle to know how to nurture what matters and manifest it so that it is a part of life. It’s as if the person feels they often come up short of getting what they want.

So if you have one of these aspects, does that mean you are doomed? Not at all. It just means you have some challenges. It means you need to get honest with yourself about the stories you tell yourself. Get honest about what you really believe and be willing to admit when perhaps your beliefs are worth reconsidering. It means you need to face your fears and start to walk through them. Everyone is lovable. Everyone has feelings. Everyone has value. Everyone can find a place where they can feel at home, people that can nurture them, environments where they can thrive. These comments are not meant to justify love lost or an unsatisfying life. They are a wake-up that you have some work to do to honor both of these energies and integrate them together in your life. It’s one of your reasons for being here and doing so will be well worth it.

Note: In a conjunction, the two objects are within 7 degrees of each other. Square is 90 degrees +/- 7 degrees. Trine is 120 degrees, +/- 7, quincunx is 150 degrees +/- 3 and opposition is 180 degrees +/- 7 degrees.

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I recently wrote some comments on a message board to someone trying to figure out the significance of Moon opposite Venus in her natal chart. Here are essentially the comments I shared.

When two pieces oppose each other in your chart, then you struggle with how to experience both energies at the same time. It’s like when you are driving down the highway and you can see the place you need to go, but you can’t figure out how to get off the highway and get over there to it. When you are focused on one energy, it’s hard to know how to get to the other one.

The Moon represents our emotional energy and Venus is our value system and ability to give an receive love. With the Moon and Venus in opposition in your natal chart, you come into this life with some karmic history of not understanding how to experience both nurturing and love at the same time. You can struggle with knowing how to be connected to family and honor your own values, how to value yourself versus deriving your value from your role within a family or your environment, having to abandon what matters to you in order to care for someone else. This aspect can also show past lives of both abandoning those you love and being abandoned by those you love. Being disowned by family because of someone you loved, as well as being the one that did the disowning.

The Moon opposite Venus can bring difficult lessons like learning to nurture others while honoring what is important to you, loving people that do not nurture and support you, struggling with what commitment really means and experiencing the line between healthy commitment and unhealthy attempts to control, feeling that your environment is at odds with what matters most to you.

It’s likely that you have some core beliefs about love and nurturing that oppose each other and create limitations that impact your ability to create a life where these two are not at odds. Any work you can do to understand these core beliefs can be a big step in letting them go and building new beliefs.