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Just thought I would share some new experiences you can use for your future trips.

Most of the clubs have offered free limo rides to the club and free admission for the past few years. While they have never in the past had a problem picking up from Fremont Street, there was one this time that told us strip only.

Crazy Horse III told us if we could get to the Strat, they could meet us there. I am not clear why, but we eventually got Sapphire, and they said they would pick us up if we could meet them at the Golden Nugget (no problem since Fremont is small enough we could get there in less than five minutes). The Sapphire driver speculated that the southern clubs will only do pickups from the strip, since downtown for them is too far to be worthwhile. He said it was the difference between a 30 minute ride and a 10 minute one for the southern clubs.

Sapphire no longer seems to have a truly free ride. There is a $5 per person service fee you pay the hostess. Still a better deal than paying full freight. I am not sure if that is a weekend-only thing or not.

Finding a table at Sapphire is annoying. They want you to do bottle service and have reserved every table. We were kicked off tables by doormen twice, but we eventually found one and a waitress who was kind enough to remove the reserved sign and let us stay (needless to say, she got a nice tip). I am not a fan of the seating situation, but if you can get seats, it is a great club.

I probably will go elsewhere, though, since I am not keen on the seating woes. I would understand if it was crowded or we were not spending money, but neither was the case.

I have to agree with your opinion of Sapphire. Unfortunately you have to give the waitresses a good tip just to get a seat. Guess that's why the bar area is so busy, there are seats that overlook the main room and they are usually crowded with customers that refuse to have the waitresses seat them (and tip them).

I don't know why the reasoning, guess they want to nickel and dime you for everything which is stupid, so many other clubs are available that don't do that. I don't have sapphires on my "must visit" list and will only go there if the other clubs are slow or I have lots of free time.

yeah we ran in to same thing a sapphire, there were about 20 empty tables that all said reserved, needed to get bottle service. we found some seats with out tables, near the curtain where they had half the club closed off, with out tables, and sat there. and some of the girls would not even give a dance, the first thing they would say is get a table then well talk....

Jeez..ya think you are going to see boobies for free. Those things cost money to make and install....would you expect to enjoy A/C without paying for the unit and installation.

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Not sure if you are kidding but there are many other strip clubs where you can find a seat without having to pay an arm and a leg just to sit down.

It isn't the boobies for free issue, it's just finding a seat in the damn place without having to pay for bottle service. what a rip off and a totally dumb move, easier to go elsewhere than have to bother about finding a seat in the club.

I usually get around it by buying one of the girls a drink and getting a single dance off her on the main floor. When she leaves after a few minutes I have my table for the night. Girls are constantly sitting down at the table throughout the night so I never get asked to move on by the bouncers or pressured for bottle service by the waitresses.

What are your current clubs of choice ... I plan to go back in January.

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when in january will you be there? If during the CES and the AVN expo (Jan 7 - 12 and Jan 14 - 19) the clubs should be packed with conventioneers. Many girls from Cali and around the country will be there to make some bucks.

I know an asian stripper (went out with her sister, not a stripper), when the economy was good about 7 years ago she would go up from hawaii and make an easy 10k for 2 weeks of work.

Have fun at the porn convention guys. Please make sure you come back and give us a review on what you thought about the convention.

I was at the convention this year, was totally disappointed as I felt the hard rock wasn't set up to hold the convention IMHO. Although known as a good party hotel I didn't think that the hard rock convention center could handle the long lines and crowd. The arena was a total joke, the crowds during the fan times were uncontrollable (was the worse I ever seen), I was lucky to get in early and I left when the crowd got out of hand.

Didn't help that the expo was a week after the CES, although it was great that I could dedicate more time to the CES and AVN that means that I had to take off 2 separate weeks to attend both conventions. Wish they would make the 2 conventions on the same week, the first part of the week could be for the CES and the end of the week could be for the AVN. But then unlike previous years I went through the AVN expo in a day and pretty much didn't want to go back. :Þ

Sorry for the rant but I didn't feel it was worth the money this year so figure to hold off returning until they get their act together.