Jupiter then regained its composure to consolidate the reaction to the center while dealing with the heat like it is doing now, however, it is showing signs of electrical change now as more of Jupiter's higher levels get heated.

The events imply that the very center, maybe only 1000 km radius, has gone into sustained fusion but it is very modest with respect to what the Sun is doing. Now the heat from this fusion is working its way to higher levels.

Since Jupiter used to be 35,000 Kelvin at the center and now the theory proposes 5 million Kelvin within the core of the reaction, the heat is conducting and convecting upwards to higher and higher levels.

It is a "slow" ignition.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

How SLOW an ignition? IE: It's going to be this amazing second star type thing, but only in the next 500 years?

The events imply that the very center, maybe only 1000 km radius, has gone into sustained fusion but it is very modest with respect to what the Sun is doing. Now the heat from this fusion is working its way to higher levels.

Since Jupiter used to be 35,000 Kelvin at the center and now the theory proposes 5 million Kelvin within the core of the reaction, the heat is conducting and convecting upwards to higher and higher levels.

It is a "slow" ignition.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

How SLOW an ignition? IE: It's going to be this amazing second star type thing, but only in the next 500 years?

Quoting: CanadaIn NIC

Several years only, starting at July 2009, so I would expect by 2015 it should be obvious. Mission Juno is on its way there, I suspect, to analyze the "new star".

Forgive my ignorance, but are we looking at an ignition similar to what was protrayed in the movie 2010?

Quoting: Elsinore

Never saw the movie in entirety.

If however you read your bible, you may remember something about wheat being separated form chaff and thrown into fiery hell. Then something like a thousand years later stuff gets burnt again, almost like a timeline splits and reinserts.

Just think about the size of the flashes we have seen. They are the size of Earth. If it is indeed electrical these are MASSIVE MASSIVE flashes.

The guy who caught the last one was imaging from within Dallas for jove-sakes (very bright lights to deal with) and he still caught an enormously bright flash ON THE DAY SIDE OF JUPITER, so this is very telling.

The events imply that the very center, maybe only 1000 km radius, has gone into sustained fusion but it is very modest with respect to what the Sun is doing. Now the heat from this fusion is working its way to higher levels.

Since Jupiter used to be 35,000 Kelvin at the center and now the theory proposes 5 million Kelvin within the core of the reaction, the heat is conducting and convecting upwards to higher and higher levels.

It is a "slow" ignition.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

How SLOW an ignition? IE: It's going to be this amazing second star type thing, but only in the next 500 years?

Quoting: CanadaIn NIC

It is going to be an extremely slow and stable burn. If you're lucky you may get fast-tracked to a reality where it happens.

You may even have talked to or met someone from the "future" where this all eventuated, they're around. Many people are in for hell on Earth though. There are even some realities where Earth and Joop meet. Sun gets ornery after a while.

I agree mostly. The actual added heat from that distance will not be enormous, but still discernable. The LIGHT output is hard to determine but could be about 5 full moons worth on average depending on how much of Jupiter actually went into fusion.

The events imply that the very center, maybe only 1000 km radius, has gone into sustained fusion but it is very modest with respect to what the Sun is doing. Now the heat from this fusion is working its way to higher levels.

Since Jupiter used to be 35,000 Kelvin at the center and now the theory proposes 5 million Kelvin within the core of the reaction, the heat is conducting and convecting upwards to higher and higher levels.

It is a "slow" ignition.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

How SLOW an ignition? IE: It's going to be this amazing second star type thing, but only in the next 500 years?

Quoting: CanadaIn NIC

It is going to be an extremely slow and stable burn. If you're lucky you may get fast-tracked to a reality where it happens.

You may even have talked to or met someone from the "future" where this all eventuated, they're around. Many people are in for hell on Earth though. There are even some realities where Earth and Joop meet. Sun gets ornery after a while.

Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm

It may be faster than what you think. 5 million Kelvin doesn't stay put for long at the center, it makes its presence known.

I agree mostly. The actual added heat from that distance will not be enormous, but still discernable. The LIGHT output is hard to determine but could be about 5 full moons worth on average depending on how much of Jupiter actually went into fusion.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

When you find out what Joop was doing for you, heat and light will be the smallest considerations.

The events imply that the very center, maybe only 1000 km radius, has gone into sustained fusion but it is very modest with respect to what the Sun is doing. Now the heat from this fusion is working its way to higher levels.

Since Jupiter used to be 35,000 Kelvin at the center and now the theory proposes 5 million Kelvin within the core of the reaction, the heat is conducting and convecting upwards to higher and higher levels.

It is a "slow" ignition.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

How SLOW an ignition? IE: It's going to be this amazing second star type thing, but only in the next 500 years?

Quoting: CanadaIn NIC

It is going to be an extremely slow and stable burn. If you're lucky you may get fast-tracked to a reality where it happens.

You may even have talked to or met someone from the "future" where this all eventuated, they're around. Many people are in for hell on Earth though. There are even some realities where Earth and Joop meet. Sun gets ornery after a while.

Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm

It may be faster than what you think. 5 million Kelvin doesn't stay put for long at the center, it makes its presence known.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

That's why I said you're lucky if you get fast-tracked, if you don't you're going to witness the birth of hell.

Just think about the size of the flashes we have seen. They are the size of Earth. If it is indeed electrical these are MASSIVE MASSIVE flashes.

The guy who caught the last one was imaging from within Dallas for jove-sakes (very bright lights to deal with) and he still caught an enormously bright flash ON THE DAY SIDE OF JUPITER, so this is very telling.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

They are desperate to call something this massive like the flash the other day an "impact", especially since they had absolutely NO DEBRIS TO SHOW FOR IT!

They ARE desperate because once they have to admit "electrical discharge".

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

Dimensional reshuffling.

Quoting: Obsequious Pachyderm

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season. Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

The odds of the June and August flashes of 2010 being antipodal as they were (1 and 2 degrees off lat and long respectively) is 1 in 25,000 FYI

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

Why the 78 delay? More electrical resistance on one side.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

The odds of the June and August flashes of 2010 being antipodal as they were (1 and 2 degrees off lat and long respectively) is 1 in 25,000 FYI

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

Why the 78 delay? More electrical resistance on one side.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Check out the upper right recent image of Jupiter. The black splotches have been there for months now at the same latitude where the recent "explosion" was imaged.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

The latest flash seems to be not as much as +12 as advertsised, I would say a few less than that. From the video it appears to be very near the equator, but the first observer said +12 North, 257 L3, so they kept that.

The odds of the June and August flashes of 2010 being antipodal as they were (1 and 2 degrees off lat and long respectively) is 1 in 25,000 FYI

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

Why the 78 delay? More electrical resistance on one side.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19514200

Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.