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After using both feeds I would say they are pretty similar. I have used CQG much more and have never had any issues with data or execution. I believe there are a couple of videos of the two feeds side-by-side in real time. As far as speed they seem very close but many factors come into play, mainly the quality of your connection to their servers. An other consideration when dealing with feeds would be reliability. In my opinion CQG is the one to go with, it has never let me down.

Just a small note: Rithmic (and presumably Zenfire) data IS sent compressed over the Internet (this is transparent to the platform).
I don't know about CQG: in case theirs is not, you couldn't compare the amount of data you see over Internet connection. Anyway, for what I can understand, nobody has done this, you have compared the number of ticks, right?
Hope this can help anyway

I'm looking at moving from Mirus to AMP in order to use CQG (no inactivity fee, zenfire does seem to get stuck around news, CQG has more exchanges on offer I think).

However, can someone confirm that CQG historic data is the same / similar to zenfire. Will charting work in Ninja basically the same way that it did under ZenFire?

Also, someone mentioned a web portal to access CQG. I don't suppose there is a way to manage this scenario?:

- Place an order in Ninja
- Go to the web portal and somehow 'adjust' the order so that stops and targets AND OCO's rest on the server
- I could then turn Ninja off and my orders AND THE OCOs would remain on the server

I'm really surprised that there is not a cleaner option for people who want to use these data fees, and Ninja, but want OCOs to reside on the server.. Especially for swing traders right ?

you can call the trade desk with your instructions
you need to have a decent connection to where you trade from(cable v3) and a good computer then:

CQG is a superior connection for people in Australia, solid, fast and very detailed(tonnes of ticks), includes aussie SPI, from AMP and the commission is cheap; perhaps a few cents off the cheapest but who cares if it works; and margins are low.
With OCO on the server - you need to check yourself, I do not use it.
What do you trade?
Good luck

Last edited by dlatbm; September 13th, 2013 at 03:12 AM.
Reason: typos and extra info

There was also a question on OCO orders and where they are being help - client or the server side. The answer is - on the server. CQG trade routing server will hold all of the OCO orders, so no matter what happens with client computer or network from client to the server side the OCO chains will continue to function.
BTW, you can OCO orders together that belong to different markets, not only limit and stops like was shows during the webinar. You also can build larger chains of OCO, so they are not limited to 2 orders only.

After send an OCO order with profit and stoploss, turn off my computer, the price cross my profit order and didn't close the position, so CQG doesn't send the OCO orders to the server. If you have an order, make sure to close it before stop Ninjatrader. Such a pitty, but CQG doesn't allow with AMP. Maybe you need to contract this service...

I have also tried the web portal but I would not suggest using it. It feels very old and outdated...

noyss

After send an OCO order with profit and stoploss, turn off my computer, the price cross my profit order and didn't close the position, so CQG doesn't send the OCO orders to the server. If you have an order, make sure to close it before stop Ninjatrader. Such a pitty, but CQG doesn't allow with AMP. Maybe you need to contract this service...

However, can someone confirm that CQG historic data is the same / similar to zenfire. Will charting work in Ninja basically the same way that it did under ZenFire?

It will work the same way, NinjaTrader historical data servers are used for both Zen-Fire and CQG.

waverider

- Place an order in Ninja
- Go to the web portal and somehow 'adjust' the order so that stops and targets AND OCO's rest on the server
- I could then turn Ninja off and my orders AND THE OCOs would remain on the server

There is no need to adjust orders from a web portal. By default, NinjaTrader submits stop loss/target orders as OCO. Both orders are at the exchange but the OCO logic is run at the server level.

@NinjaTrader, Not saying I would do this but if I had an ATM with OCOs active I can shut down NT and everything would work like normal? I could then just start NT and see my position flat if it was filled, target or stop?

Thanks

NinjaTrader

It will work the same way, NinjaTrader historical data servers are used for both Zen-Fire and CQG.

There is no need to adjust orders from a web portal. By default, NinjaTrader submits stop loss/target orders as OCO. Both orders are at the exchange but the OCO logic is run at the server level.