Endo pulled me offf TRT after 6 yrs. Alternatives?

I've been on TRT for over 6 yrs. My endo in Jan took me off because of high hemocrit & hemoglobin levels. Is there a alternative? I asked about going back on & he stated we'll test again in june & maybe then. He also told me i might just have to live with low test levels.

I've been on TRT for over 6 yrs. My endo in Jan took me off because of high hemocrit & hemoglobin levels. Is there a alternative? I asked about going back on & he stated we'll test again in june & maybe then. He also told me i might just have to live with low test levels.

I'm not looking for doctor advice but I'm looking for thoughts.

Therapeutic phlebotomy is often done with increased hgb and hct. Did you try lowering your dose? I've been struggling with mine a bit, but it's came down since I lowered it. Still a little high but heading in the right direction.

I kid you not brother. I was in the same boat as you. Since starting trt three years ago my hematocrit has been in the 53-54 range and my hemoglobin in the 19.2 range. When I blast I'm at 55. I've tried donating, but that only brings it down maybe a point if I'm lucky. In late Nov. my crit was at 55 and globlin was 19.2. I had bloodwork this past Wednesday and my crit came down to 51 and globlin 17. Keep in mind that I'm currently on week 7 of a blast of 500mg/week. How did I get my crit down? The almighty grapefruit brother. I read a study that was conducted years ago on the effects of gf and hematocrit values. 1/2 gf for x amount of weeks brought crit numbers into range. At first I thought bs this can't be true. What the hell I give it a shot. When I started my cycle I simply drank 3oz of gp juice. 7 weeks in and I'm back in range. Crit, globlin, and rbc are all normal now.

I kid you not brother. I was in the same boat as you. Since starting trt three years ago my hematocrit has been in the 53-54 range and my hemoglobin in the 19.2 range. When I blast I'm at 55. I've tried donating, but that only brings it down maybe a point if I'm lucky. In late Nov. my crit was at 55 and globlin was 19.2. I had bloodwork this past Wednesday and my crit came down to 51 and globlin 17. Keep in mind that I'm currently on week 7 of a blast of 500mg/week. How did I get my crit down? The almighty grapefruit brother. I read a study that was conducted years ago on the effects of gf and hematocrit values. 1/2 gf for x amount of weeks brought crit numbers into range. At first I thought bs this can't be true. What the hell I give it a shot. When I started my cycle I simply drank 3oz of gp juice. 7 weeks in and I'm back in range. Crit, globlin, and rbc are all normal now.

This is very interesting, I'd like to see numbers (not that I don't believe you, I just find it amazing) and any other info. I'm off to Google things now. I don't have an issue, but I always like to be proactive.

This is very interesting, I'd like to see numbers (not that I don't believe you, I just find it amazing) and any other info. I'm off to Google things now. I don't have an issue, but I always like to be proactive.

I am finding a lot of them that all point to research showing it does in fact lower hemocrit. The main reason it apparently isn't suggested is due to the interaction it has with other orals like anti-depressants, alergy medicines, calcium supps, and anti-psychosis meds.

Therapeutic phlebotomy is often done with increased hgb and hct. Did you try lowering your dose? I've been struggling with mine a bit, but it's came down since I lowered it. Still a little high but heading in the right direction.

I kid you not brother. I was in the same boat as you. Since starting trt three years ago my hematocrit has been in the 53-54 range and my hemoglobin in the 19.2 range. When I blast I'm at 55. I've tried donating, but that only brings it down maybe a point if I'm lucky. In late Nov. my crit was at 55 and globlin was 19.2. I had bloodwork this past Wednesday and my crit came down to 51 and globlin 17. Keep in mind that I'm currently on week 7 of a blast of 500mg/week. How did I get my crit down? The almighty grapefruit brother. I read a study that was conducted years ago on the effects of gf and hematocrit values. 1/2 gf for x amount of weeks brought crit numbers into range. At first I thought bs this can't be true. What the hell I give it a shot. When I started my cycle I simply drank 3oz of gp juice. 7 weeks in and I'm back in range. Crit, globlin, and rbc are all normal now.

as an alternative there is some evidence that low dose clomid can be a replacement for trt

"More recently, the use of clomiphene citrate has gained popularity in both the treatment of male factor infertility and male hypogonadism. Clomiphene citrate is a selective estrogen receptor modulator that acts at the level of the hypothalamus to block feedback inhibition of estradiol, thereby increasing release of LH and FSH from the pituitary. The LH and FSH then act on the Leydig and Sertoli cells of the testes, respectively, to increase serum testosterone and levels and spermatogenesis [Taylor and Levine, 2009]. In just 4–6 weeks of a low dose of clomiphene citrate treatment (25mg per day), hypogonadal men exhibit significant increases in serum testosterone and testosterone/estradiol ratios [Shabsigh et al. 2005]. By stimulating endogenous androgen production, clomiphene citrate has proven to be a viable alternative to TRT."

I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.

Please give more info? I was at 450mg a week the last yr & a half then in june of last yr it was rising so he knocked me down to 350mg / wk then in jan he took me off. This has been the same doc for the last 6 yrs. They tell me im near the high side of the range & want me to stay off until june as that is my follow up again.

my wife is already irritated by my lack of test. She has stated she can't live with me like this. Lol...

Trt dosage is usually between 50-100mg week. My family doctor is pretty easy to work with. I go in with my studies etc. and we work together. If I were you I would print out the study and go over it with your physician. Good luck brother..

Trt dosage is usually between 50-100mg week. My family doctor is pretty easy to work with. I go in with my studies etc. and we work together. If I were you I would print out the study and go over it with your physician. Good luck brother..

I'm doing a transdermal. The paper work states 10% absorbtion. so that would be 35 to 45mg per week.

The more I read up on grapefruit, the more I am seeing that those that are on TRT shouldn't consume it because it raises estrogen. In fact several doctors post on their web sites that consumption of grapefruit is prohibited.

The more I read up on grapefruit, the more I am seeing that those that are on TRT shouldn't consume it because it raises estrogen. In fact several doctors post on their web sites that consumption of grapefruit is prohibited.Kind of weird that there is so much conflicting information.

Grape seed extract lower it...

I am not a medical Dr, please keep in mind that this answer is for information purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose, treat or replace sound medical advice from your physician or health care provider.

The more I read up on grapefruit, the more I am seeing that those that are on TRT shouldn't consume it because it raises estrogen. In fact several doctors post on their web sites that consumption of grapefruit is prohibited.

This is a discussion on the effect of grapefruit on hormones, not weight loss.

I actually called my doc yesterday to ask what he thought and he left me a long rambling vm that I listened to last night. Basically, he said he doesn't recommend it because of interactions with so many other supplements and drugs, so rather than go down the list, he simply doesn't recommend it. He is aware that it does increase estrogen, but he said that it usually is only a problem with men that are already prone to elevated levels, which can also include patients on TRT. Then followed up with a bunch of technical babble ending with: his only recommendation is to always stay hydrated because dehydration and our CO elevation are going to be more to blame for elevated #s than TRT ever will.

Combined with that and what I have been reading, I think I am going to stay away and just drink up my water.