This way I can't lose motivation during the winter, right? Except, you're in a different hemisphere and the weather is becoming more and more amazing everyday while it continues to get more and more crepe-y here.

eta: I'm in a chat with Steve Edwards now, and I asked him if for vegans it's more important to shoot for the ratios (i.e. phase 2 is 40/40/20 carbs/protein/fat) via whatever means necessary (protein shakes/bars/etc) or to eat a varied whole foods diet and he said to eat a varied whole foods diet. So, rock on!

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I actually decided not to do Insanity because it seemed way too cardio focused and I do more than enough cardio. If I find myself stuck inside a lot this winter that will probably change.

Are you still doing all your running and biking? If so you could probably just do the weight portions of P90X?

I'm biking every day to/from work, which is about 12 miles, and I actually make an effort for ten of those. I started using my kettlebell again yesterday, so I think I'm going to try and stick with that for 4 days a week - it's just about getting past the boredom and repetition of the initial conditioning program.

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kdsaj - welcome and thanks!! :) let me know if you have any questions!

also, i've been migraine-y for 28 hours or so so not real attentive/useful, but I'm usually better.

eta: I'm in a chat with Steve Edwards now, and I asked him if for vegans it's more important to shoot for the ratios (i.e. phase 2 is 40/40/20 carbs/protein/fat) via whatever means necessary (protein shakes/bars/etc) or to eat a varied whole foods diet and he said to eat a varied whole foods diet. So, rock on!

Suggestions for topics would be appreciated. I feel like a total gomer on forums. I was super worried that I'm not drinking enough protein shakes or something! I know I'm not protein deprived by any means, but the way Tony talks about protein bars, shakes, and that stupid recovery drink, I thought that I was slacking.

I think I missed the link to your blog about the vegan version of the recovery drink. Could you hook me up with it, please?

We've been kicking on with week five, reeaaally enjoyed/nearly died doing the back and biceps workout on Sunday! I think that's quite possibly the most sore my arms have ever been after a workout, love love love it!I'm kinda sad that there's no more new workouts from now till the end though...

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I think I must be the only one who has done Debbie Siebers' Slim Series (Beachbody) workouts. I don't want to punch her in the face (although this could be useful for the punching exercises), and that's what I enjoy about it. I have Tony's P90 Master Series, but I find him incredibly annoying. That being said, I'm interested in trying P90X one of these days, but I'm still faithful to ol' Debbie.

I think I must be the only one who has done Debbie Siebers' Slim Series (Beachbody) workouts. I don't want to punch her in the face (although this could be useful for the punching exercises), and that's what I enjoy about it. I have Tony's P90 Master Series, but I find him incredibly annoying. That being said, I'm interested in trying P90X one of these days, but I'm still faithful to ol' Debbie.

Oh, I want to punch Tony in the face everyday but Sunday (rest day). He's so freaking annoying!

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kdsaj wrote:

alice1drland wrote:

I think I must be the only one who has done Debbie Siebers' Slim Series (Beachbody) workouts. I don't want to punch her in the face (although this could be useful for the punching exercises), and that's what I enjoy about it. I have Tony's P90 Master Series, but I find him incredibly annoying. That being said, I'm interested in trying P90X one of these days, but I'm still faithful to ol' Debbie.

Oh, I want to punch Tony in the face everyday but Sunday (rest day). He's so freaking annoying!

Yeah, his tone is almost... condescending? Unintentionally so, I'm sure. Or maybe it's because he's so desperate to make working out seem fun, like he's talking to a bunch of kids who are refusing to do their jumping jacks. Either way, it's not cool.

kdsaj - welcome and thanks!! :) let me know if you have any questions!

also, i've been migraine-y for 28 hours or so so not real attentive/useful, but I'm usually better.

eta: I'm in a chat with Steve Edwards now, and I asked him if for vegans it's more important to shoot for the ratios (i.e. phase 2 is 40/40/20 carbs/protein/fat) via whatever means necessary (protein shakes/bars/etc) or to eat a varied whole foods diet and he said to eat a varied whole foods diet. So, rock on!

Suggestions for topics would be appreciated. I feel like a total gomer on forums. I was super worried that I'm not drinking enough protein shakes or something! I know I'm not protein deprived by any means, but the way Tony talks about protein bars, shakes, and that stupid recovery drink, I thought that I was slacking.

I think I missed the link to your blog about the vegan version of the recovery drink. Could you hook me up with it, please?

I think that's the Tony from 2004 who was trying to pimp out his stuff. A recovery drink is good for after workouts (I use 1 tbsp of rice protein in about 8oz of juice) but aside from that, don't worry about it. I don't think I ever got around to a detailed blog post about that - hmmm. Okay, here - just this "Also, the recovery shake used by non-vegan P90Xers is a 4:1 ratio of carbs to protein (which I'm still working on - I get a little thrown given that phase 2 of the diet is supposed to be equal ratios of carbs:protein overall). "

_________________"T-shirts are not allowed in heaven, Karyn. They don't do casual Fridays." - Amandabear

OWW - My biceps are the most obvious change for me so far - I like them!

Alice - Really? I don't think he seems like that at all and I've never heard that from anyone!

eta: In the interest of full disclosure, in the BB chats he does through the site, I find him a bit annoying - he just sort of goes off on a tangent and expects no one to type or ask questions. Steve Edwards is way cooler.

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OWW - My biceps are the most obvious change for me so far - I like them!

Alice - Really? I don't think he seems like that at all and I've never heard that from anyone!

yeah, we were half-expecting to cringe at the cheeziness/arrogance/whatever of the tone on the dvds and we were totally pleasantly surprised! We think Tony's actually pretty funny, and certainly haven't found him condescending yet...

ha, I was used to doing some pretty decent bicep curls at the gym, but faaaaaar out that workout was intense!I really don't think I'm changing shape/size/whatever in any way though, but I'm not trying to so that's fine.That being said, we didn't do initial measurements but eventually decided they might be interesting to monitor so we did 30 day ones this weekend and will try to do 60 and 90.Also, I was totally disturbed by how similar my husband's waist size is to mine... damn skinny waisted boy!

This way I can't lose motivation during the winter, right? Except, you're in a different hemisphere and the weather is becoming more and more amazing everyday while it continues to get more and more crepe-y here.

Yes, it's definitely easier to work out in spring/summer but we'll all be here to motivate each other!

eta: I'm in a chat with Steve Edwards now, and I asked him if for vegans it's more important to shoot for the ratios (i.e. phase 2 is 40/40/20 carbs/protein/fat) via whatever means necessary (protein shakes/bars/etc) or to eat a varied whole foods diet and he said to eat a varied whole foods diet. So, rock on!

This is EXCELLENT! And what I've been trying/doing anyway.

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Okay. My DVD's should be here Saturday. We'll see what all the fuss is about...

I hope you love it!

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appifanie wrote:

Alice - Really? I don't think he seems like that at all and I've never heard that from anyone!

yeah, we were half-expecting to cringe at the cheeziness/arrogance/whatever of the tone on the dvds and we were totally pleasantly surprised! We think Tony's actually pretty funny, and certainly haven't found him condescending yet...

Same here, I think he's funny and I don't find him annoying at all! My bf was home for the first time during one of my work outs yesterday and he and I were laughing at Tony screeching like a teradactyl during the arm circles. Back & biceps was an awesome work out.

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yeah, we were half-expecting to cringe at the cheeziness/arrogance/whatever of the tone on the dvds and we were totally pleasantly surprised! We think Tony's actually pretty funny, and certainly haven't found him condescending yet...

Yeah, that kind of stuff is what annoys me, though. The pterodactyl thing. I just want an explanation, demonstration, we'll do it together with no funny goofball stuff and we're done. And I'm not saying I want someone to be a dick and be mean to me as we work out "together," but I also don't want to feel like I'm in a Jazzercise class. Maybe he's different in P90 Master Series; I have no idea! Tony's tone to me comes across as, "Hurka durka durk durk awwww YAY-uh! Hurk durk? DORF."

kdsaj - welcome and thanks!! :) let me know if you have any questions!

also, i've been migraine-y for 28 hours or so so not real attentive/useful, but I'm usually better.

eta: I'm in a chat with Steve Edwards now, and I asked him if for vegans it's more important to shoot for the ratios (i.e. phase 2 is 40/40/20 carbs/protein/fat) via whatever means necessary (protein shakes/bars/etc) or to eat a varied whole foods diet and he said to eat a varied whole foods diet. So, rock on!

Suggestions for topics would be appreciated. I feel like a total gomer on forums. I was super worried that I'm not drinking enough protein shakes or something! I know I'm not protein deprived by any means, but the way Tony talks about protein bars, shakes, and that stupid recovery drink, I thought that I was slacking.

I think I missed the link to your blog about the vegan version of the recovery drink. Could you hook me up with it, please?

I think that's the Tony from 2004 who was trying to pimp out his stuff. A recovery drink is good for after workouts (I use 1 tbsp of rice protein in about 8oz of juice) but aside from that, don't worry about it. I don't think I ever got around to a detailed blog post about that - hmmm. Okay, here - just this "Also, the recovery shake used by non-vegan P90Xers is a 4:1 ratio of carbs to protein (which I'm still working on - I get a little thrown given that phase 2 of the diet is supposed to be equal ratios of carbs:protein overall). "

I'm using a hemp protein shake right now, which is probably similar to rice (right?). I wanted to stay away from the soy, and hemp was the first non-soy protein shake I saw at whole foods.

I'm in need of a really good (tasty and good nutrient profile) protein shake that is inexpensive. What brands do you recommend or not recommend?