Just watched the interview last night, and I found it kind of weird. It wasn't really Johnny's fault, though. It was my first time watching a full episode of Chelsea Lately, and I don't get the show's humor AT ALL. She's so dour and when the other panelists were trying to say funny things, she barely responded. And she kept talking about Johnny being gay, which although we all knew, he's never publicly acknowledged it, so I thought it was really crude and mean of her to say that without (I presume) asking him beforehand if it would be okay. One thing Johnny did that concerned me was that when they referred to Tanith Belbin as Evan's "ex-girlfriend," Johnny gave Chelsea a knowing wink, like "yeah, as if." I don't know; I found the whole interview rather off-putting and uncomfortable, and I don't think I'll be watching Chelsea Lately in the future.

I haven't watched the show yet but I don't understand how/why this whole Johnny vs. Evan rivalry keeps coming up. They are completely two different personalities and two different skaters. As a competitive skater myself, it's very rare for skaters to be good friends with their top competitors in the elite level. They are grown men and I've never seen any type of animosity b/w the two that would turn me the wrong way. If you like one, more than likely you won't like the other just because of the stark difference between them. I myself prefer Johnny's personality AND skating over Evan's. I find nothing beautiful about Evan's skating and find his personality lacking and rather dull. However I respect what each of them have brought to the sport and I have to applaud Johnny for being real and speaking the truth whereas others (like Evan) would just keep their mouth shut and avoid the topic all together. I mean their rivalry is interesting to the public and people want the gossip and the lowdown. Johnny doesn't sugarcoat anything and answers honestly so I have to give credit where credit is due. Hopefully the skating world can move on from this rivalry and find something else to talk about.

They don't have to be friends. I never get why fans or the media care. What matters is if they condone themselves in a manner that is professional and respectful to the sport. I could care less if they go out for a beer after a show or never speak a word to each other, as long as it doesn't disrupt a competition or make a mockery of a sport that is not taken very seriously. Come on...It's like NY reporters/fans obsessing over if Jeter and Reyes are buddies, after all, they are NY's star shortstops.

Why would they be friends? They live on other sides of the country, Johnny did not to SOI so he could not get to know Evan that way. They only time they meet is pretty much when they compete against one another, and that is not the time for friendships. Even the skaters who are friends (or more than friends) are all business when they are on competition ice. Considering one or the other was the favorite for all the national titles since Johnny was 15....i don't see why they would become besties.

Why would they be friends? They live on other sides of the country, Johnny did not to SOI so he could not get to know Evan that way. They only time they meet is pretty much when they compete against one another, and that is not the time for friendships. Even the skaters who are friends (or more than friends) are all business when they are on competition ice. Considering one or the other was the favorite for all the national titles since Johnny was 15....i don't see why they would become besties.

Originally Posted by Joesitz

What exactly is Johnny's criteria for accepting Evan as friend?

There is a difference between being friends with someone and being friendly towards them.

I don't really get the friendship thing with him and Mroz, Rippon, Abbott, and Bradley.

I don't know about Evan and Johnny. But several competitors can get along before/during/after the ice shows too.

This is just my impression - Rippon, Abbott, Chan, Lambiel, Weir, Verner came to my country for show performances (and for competitions) more than once. Rippon, Abbott, Verner and Chan, Lambiel seemed to get along very well. Weir and Lambiel seemed to be very close but except him, I don't know how Weir and others got along. Chan seemed to be especially friendly to anyone. Several posters in this forum sound bitter on everything about Chan but I have a very good impression about his personality.

Well, fans cannot exactly know how relationship come and go among skaters. Don't have to expect too high because true friendship generally requires understanding, patience and maturity. But as far as I know, the young skaters/competitors can get along very well like any other young people. If certain two don't get along well, we cannot blame only one. Most likely, we cannot blame anyone.

I don't know about Evan and Johnny. But several competitors can get along before/during/after the ice shows too.

This is just my impression - Rippon, Abbott, Chan, Lambiel, Weir, Verner came to my country for show performances (and for competitions) more than once. Rippon, Abbott, Verner and Chan, Lambiel seemed to get along very well. Weir and Lambiel seemed to be very close but except him, I don't know how Weir and others got along. Chan seemed to be especially friendly to anyone. Several posters in this forum sound bitter on everything about Chan but I have a very good impression about his personality.

Well, fans cannot exactly know how relationship come and go among skaters. Don't have to expect too high because true friendship generally requires understanding, patience and maturity. But as far as I know, the young skaters/competitors can get along very well like any other young people. If certain two don't get along well, we cannot blame only one. Most likely, we cannot blame anyone.

Pray tell me, what does it matter? Should I still be in contact with members of my Track Team? I never was outside of school. Of course it would be nice to see some of them again, but none of them have contacted me. Am I loosing sleep over it? bleh.

Johnny has lots of non-skating celebrity-like friends of whom he enjoys. What could it matter to him? You do know the difference between friendly and friends. No?

I don't know about Evan and Johnny. But several competitors can get along before/during/after the ice shows too.

This is just my impression - Rippon, Abbott, Chan, Lambiel, Weir, Verner came to my country for show performances (and for competitions) more than once. Rippon, Abbott, Verner and Chan, Lambiel seemed to get along very well. Weir and Lambiel seemed to be very close but except him, I don't know how Weir and others got along. Chan seemed to be especially friendly to anyone. Several posters in this forum sound bitter on everything about Chan but I have a very good impression about his personality.

Well, fans cannot exactly know how relationship come and go among skaters. Don't have to expect too high because true friendship generally requires understanding, patience and maturity. But as far as I know, the young skaters/competitors can get along very well like any other young people. If certain two don't get along well, we cannot blame only one. Most likely, we cannot blame anyone.

Well.. you bashed my writing hard (and me as a person too). I think you better take care of your own writing. haha

Who is this poster? Who do you think you are, silverling?
You probablly don't know any of them. Do you? How can you 'personally' attack a certain skater to whom you are a complete stranger?
Your post make me very uncomfortable. Just pathetic.

About the main topic here. So what? I don't care.
But as it was Johnny who said so, I wonder why he had to tell such things to the public. What for?

Neither a Lysacek fan nor a Johnny fan... I have no problem with Evan's winning this time, though.
I don't think Johnny was robbed at olys. Just this. The more I read or hear about Johnny, the more tired I get.

the whole writing- your two writings tell me cleary how much I have to take consider of your writing.

The more I read or hear about Johnny, the more tired I get..

then, Don't read. Why did you read this Johnny thread.-What a funny person.
If you don't even want to hear about Johnny then don't.

Pray tell me, what does it matter? Should I still be in contact with members of my Track Team? I never was outside of school. Of course it would be nice to see some of them again, but none of them have contacted me. Am I loosing sleep over it? bleh.

Johnny has lots of non-skating celebrity-like friends of whom he enjoys. What could it matter to him? You do know the difference between friendly and friends. No?

I did respond to your pervious post and Tinymay's post.
Did I say my impression when they were here? Yes. Some skaters looked friendly together.
So what is your point? We do not know what's going on their personal lives. Did I say I knew something about their relationship?

I noticed there were very personal things told in Chelsea Handler's show. Maybe that's the way the show is about. I don't have many thing to say.

No shocker. But it will be tough for fans to speculate which skaters is friend with which skaters. lol All we see is the 7-10 minutes of them on ice on t.V coverage and the warm up not exacting a place to be doing chit chat. It's all business to all the skaters. Of course when both Evan and Johnny are on the podium they just shake hands, part skate politic, part sportman ship, what ever.
But frankly do we care. Unless both are wacking each others knees like Tonya and Nancy, it just some media frenzy to sell story. And chances are both likely to retire as both has found post skating career in limelight and both seem to be enjoying the attentions.

No shocker. But it will be tough for fans to speculate which skaters is friend with which skaters. lol All we see is the 7-10 minutes of them on ice on t.V coverage and the warm up not exacting a place to be doing chit chat. It's all business to all the skaters. Of course when both Evan and Johnny are on the podium they just shake hands, part skate politic, part sportman ship, what ever.
But frankly do we care. Unless both are wacking each others knees like Tonya and Nancy, it just some media frenzy to sell story. And chances are both likely to retire as both has found post skating career in limelight and both seem to be enjoying the attentions.

Lets move on to Mao vs. Yuna!! lol (i'm joking)

Not that into rivalries on or off the ice but c'mon, surely it's a bit serious to suggest Nancy whacked any knees! Talk about blaming the victim! I don't really think Kerrigan was thinking too hard about Harding as a rival by that point anyway, that is, I don't think there was a "rivalry" until the whack heard round the world ... or at least that's how I remember it as an avid fan (then and now). But yes, definitely move on from the really rather dated so-called Evan/Johnny rivalry.