SPECIAL EVENT: Interview With Hypocrisy – National Right to Life

This is an Apologia Radio special event! We were able to get an interview with Tony Lauinger (Vice President of National Right to Life). The State of Oklahoma is dealing with the controversy over a new proposed bill: SB 1118. This bill would classify abortion as a 1st degree murder charge, effectively criminalizing abortion in the state of Oklahoma. Tony is also the Chairman of Oklahomans For Life. He was asked his position on the bill and responded with a letter that has seen wide circulation on social media.

Tony’s response to the bill was that it would do away with the incremental laws limiting the number of abortions in the State (pain, heartbeat, etc.). We asked him if he would join us to discuss his own opposition to SB 1118.

His answers shocked us. Jeff did his best to let our listeners hear this pro-life leader’s position. Make no mistake: the pro-life cause is an utter failure and now we can all see exactly why that is the case. Tony, a leader in this movement, would not call abortion murder, did not believe abortionists should be prosecuted for “murder” nor did he believe we should bring the biblical worldview or Gospel to bear on the situation in the judicial system.

We want the world to hear the hypocrisy present in the “pro-life” movement. It is time for the Church of Jesus Christ to stand of and act consistently with the Word of God. We cannot and will not do away with abortion and the killing will not stop if we continue to approach the issue in with the cowardice this man and these organizations do.

Rise up O men and women of God!

Please, share this video! Please join with us in exposing this hypocrisy. Abortion will end when there is reformation with the church. We must confront the evils in this movement even if they are present within the church.

I agree, Jeff. We cannot win strictly on a physical level. We need to act in the physical, as long as it is in a Godly way. Amongst the majority of those pro-lifers acting in God’s leading, National Right to Life has been seen as an organization more aimed at keeping the fight going. We believe they do this for the sake of their pockets.

Lawrence, this was certainly the problem back in the early 1980’s when we had the last real opportunity to roll back abortion on demand and no progress was made because of infighting among the ProLife organizations.

I’ve got to believe you guys are going to dissect and destroy Tony’s points on the next AR episode. I’m currently offering assistance to an actual pro-life Congressional candidate who is in a primary against a Republican who has a terrible pro-life record. The National Right to Life is giving her a 100% pro-life record. This content is vital.

Ohhhh if only professing Chritians actually believed what the BIble makes clear about mankind’s radical depravity and human inability…To think you can win a heart and mind with science and logic, truly sad. Once the culture has scared you into putting away your Bible, Scriptural language and your God you have become saltless salt…

I would have liked to hear him elaborate more on the legal side of Murder that he kept saying was complicated, I would have liked to hear that question asked, explain what you mean, explain how ground would be lost by not putting fwrd this bill but sticking with incremintalism etc.

Honestly, he described himself when laying out his opposition…entrenched in their attitudes, not convertible, not able to be influenced some people are unfortunately that way, they are close minded…close minded, Change Everything, Apologia. Thank You

National Right to Life told me that they must sacrifice people like me to pass their laws! NO they didn’t use those words “we have to have exceptions to pass the laws” I am a rape conceived person! They are NOT about stopping murder of the innocents but about keeping their jobs! They ousted Georgia RTL from their affiliation because they refused to support the killing of any innocent preborn!!

Now they speak what they feel once again. Dangerous! Years and Years of premeditated murder of the rape conceived!

So he believes it’s murder, but the murderer should not be charged with murder?
God also gave the woman the responsibility to be the last defense for anyone trying to harm her child.
When that woman chooses murder for hire against her own child, she fully guilty of that murder.
If the woman is not prosecuted, she bears no risk for her crime and, therefore, there is no deterrent to stop her from paying someone for an illegal abortion.
The hitman is not more guilty that the woman who hired him.

The notion that the ultimate goal of a Christian is to simply return to back when abortion wasn’t considered murder is very grieving to God.

35 years.
Millions of defeats, sprinkled with a few, precious victories.

Is SCOTUS our God? Why do we continue to bow to it? To whom do we bend the knee?
(Make each of the millions of abortions a case that lands on SCOTUS’ front steps, then. Try each and every one, make SCOTUS invalidate them on the merits of the case. Good luck.)
Would Christ point to Romans 13 as justification for these slayings?
Can Americans ever stand against Leviathan? If so, when? If not for this, for what?

States need to reaffirm that we are a nation of Laws, not of men. How many laws are ignored today? How is Hillary Clinton still “free” to roam American tarmacs?
We must purge ourselves of Tony Lauinger’s thought process. These people use our decency to stifle what we know is right. The government already considers us all terrorists. (http://tinyurl.com/glk7ale)

The war is on and it is hot. The enemy uses suction tubes and the color of law to terrorize us. Tony’s passive, “neutral” decency isn’t going to win the day.

Wow.
So heart breaking.
Very disappointing.
I pray that this man will repent and stand for who he claims to be.
Sad to see a man claiming to be a Christian and being in a position to make a difference and he will not do it.

Thank you Jeff and Team — mincing words and hedging on the gospel is not the way the way forward. I was also struck at how much power Mr. Lauinger invested in the Supreme Court. We fear man too much. Thank you for your faithfulness. God bless you!

I think the pro-life strategy has failed to abolish abortion, but I think we should be careful not to paint guys like this in a bad light. He obviously expected the bill to fail, and didn’t want a spike in abortions. He obviously cares about these babies. He just believes in working inside the system. Too many abolitionists want to impugn the character of the pro life movement. We have to convince these guys that rebellion is necessary for a Governor to protect ALL citizens.

this is the result of compassion over truth/right/and the God’s commandment “…shall not murder” If we truly want end abortion, call it what it is “murder”. If you murder a 1 or 2 year old toddler, it would be murder and the mother/father would be charged with the murder of that child. Abortion is a medical term used to lessen the act of murdering the unborn child in the womb. Call it murder, then the adults involved will make an informed decision to murder the unborn child or not. We should never think we are right by using “compassionate” terms to persuade abortion minded adults to choose life. Call it murder and that alone will persuade more adults to choose life.