The WSJ Says Apple Is Quietly Sending The Press More And More Reports About Why It's Not Doomedhttp://www.businessinsider.com/wsj-apple-is-quietly-sending-the-press-more-reports-2013-2/comments
en-usWed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 -0500Tue, 03 Mar 2015 16:20:39 -0500Jay Yarowhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112d0396bb3f71a78000013jacknWed, 06 Feb 2013 16:50:49 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112d0396bb3f71a78000013
Thinking out of the box is getting apple? Really, thats your final point? and again, you started you sentence with an adverb intended to eclipse all argument (Obviosly, and clearly before). Maybe in the future, if you feel youself writing like this, replace the word with I THINK .....
with time and practice, you will grow out of the box you are in...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112c97d69bedd927e000012Jon FreyWed, 06 Feb 2013 16:22:05 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112c97d69bedd927e000012
You're entitled to your opinion, sir. I recognize the value that my clients want, and use that to close the deal. Obviously some here have trouble thinking outside the box.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112bc8269bedde25b00001aJILWed, 06 Feb 2013 15:26:42 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112bc8269bedde25b00001a
Wow... nice reporting WSJ!! What a headline!!! "Investor Relations department does its job!!! AAPL must be sinking" If it weren't for "FOXnews" like reporting from WSJ, AAPL would clearly be better regarded. I guess this "news" apple doesn't fall far from the News Corp tree.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112bc66ecad04d06200000ajacknWed, 06 Feb 2013 15:26:14 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112bc66ecad04d06200000a
I am embarresed by your lack of critical thinking.
Clearly, their products are superior for mobile computing, communications and graphics/video design.
You only mentioned viruses and start up times in response. We can tell you logic is flawed because you start with "Clearly..."http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112a5446bb3f70a25000031DMGWed, 06 Feb 2013 13:47:32 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112a5446bb3f70a25000031
Jon, compare your Mac boot time with this:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9ia3zBs42cc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9ia3zBs42cc</a>
As for Macs costing more...that's one way to look at it. The other is that you are getting less value for your money...excluding the 'feeling'. Personally, I can do without the feeling in my computers.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112a3ffeab8ea641c000010MatthewWed, 06 Feb 2013 13:42:07 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112a3ffeab8ea641c000010
I suspect that a similarly-configured Windows7 notebook wouldn't be much different for boot time than a Macbook.
I Google'd boot times for Macbooks and it seemed like most were reporting average of around 30 seconds. I threw an SSD into an Asus EeePC1000HE and am getting around 30-35 seconds on that. Along the same lines, in the first page of Google results I found a link to a video someone did a few years ago of an SSD-equipped Netbook running iOS booting faster than a Macbook at the time, due to the SSD they put in the netbook:
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7hc6qZ_PGI" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7hc6qZ_PGI</a>
There are basically two big boosts to speeding up boot time:
1) An SSD
2) Not having tons of junk-software pre-loading during startup
A lot of PC manufacturers have always gone overboard in cluttering up notebooks and PCs with excessive software - much of which isn't needed and even more of which isn't needed to load at startup.
If your point is that a typical store-bought average notebook will boot slower than a Macbook, you're correct - for the reason that the typical store-bought notebook lacks an SSD and will come pre-loaded with startup-clogging software extras.
But that isn't comparing Apples and apples. And it certainly isn't a comparison of hardware or operating system.
The characteristic of PCs and their ilk is the breadth of available configurations in hardware. Apple chooses a targeted approach with selected configurations. Configure a notebook similar to its Macbook counterpart and I don't expect there will be much difference in boot time between the two.
It's also relevant for the same reason (breadth of hardware configuration) to note that PCs are going to exceed Apple at the high-end - although this is a very small market and aimed mostly at enthusiasts and especially PC gamers. For instance, the current Mac Pro Desktop ships with the Radeon 5770 or 5870, both of which were released over three years ago. You can't even buy these cards on NewEgg anymore because they've been supplanted by a couple major generations. A high-end PC will typically be using a graphics card released within the past 6 months or year. But the Mac Pro isn't targeting a gaming market which relies on fastest-and-newest graphics (for framerates and bragging rights). Its hardware has been selected for its target audience and usages.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112a220eab8ea2817000009DMGWed, 06 Feb 2013 13:34:08 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112a220eab8ea2817000009
I have seen Windows 8 computers boot in under 7 seconds with an SSD. How fast does the Mac boot up?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51129028eab8ea096a00000etimachesonWed, 06 Feb 2013 12:17:28 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51129028eab8ea096a00000e
Take a long hard look at Apple's stock chart. It's dramatic.
Having peaked, Apple's stock price trajectory is DOWN steeply and there's plenty of room to fall further:
It's clear that Apple peaked -- that peak is now in the past. It's on the way down, and there are clear danger signs that it's still grossly overvalued.
"Apple has always been a company driven to build the best stuff possible to build... When you're passionate about being the best, you hit home runs..."
We risk discussing hype here instead of reality.
1. Apple's great rise to success happened under Steve Jobs. He is now gone, forever.
2. Apple's products are in fact built by other companies, like Samsung, Foxconn, etc. If Apple disappeared tomorrow, we'd still have all the clever stuff that makes their devices work, because the real technology and innovation behind these products is demonstrably not from Apple. Apple literally just puts a shiny case on it and sells you their designer logo on top. People have now seen through the illusion. You seem over-excited about the company, like a die-hard fan who refuses to see the harsh reality.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511290036bb3f7cf7b00000ftimachesonWed, 06 Feb 2013 12:16:51 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511290036bb3f7cf7b00000f
I could not have put it better than this benchmark quote in Forbes this week:-
'Teens are telling us Apple is done. Apple has done a great job of embracing Gen X and older [Millennials], but not connecting with Millennial kids. The kids are all about Surface tablets/laptops, Galaxy, etc.' ... that’s a damning statement from a company whose specialty is determining what teens and young adults want."http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51128d2fecad04ea08000035Jon FreyWed, 06 Feb 2013 12:04:47 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51128d2fecad04ea08000035
There's no debate over cost. Its a well known fact Macs cost more than PCs. However, your comment on me being a Mac cultist is inflammatory and based on raw emotion.
I've been in the industry well over 10 years and am fluent in how PCs work vs. Apple's hardware. However, the FACT is, power on a Windows 7/8 notebook and a Macbook at the same time, and see who gets online first. Then tell me who's embarassed sir.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51128a0f69bedd7b5800000fDMGWed, 06 Feb 2013 11:51:27 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51128a0f69bedd7b5800000f
Double "Wow"!!! This sums up Apple fanbois in a nutshell. Even when they know Apple's hype is an illusion they STILL buy it! How does this not fit the exact definition of a cult?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112890369bedd1559000005DMGWed, 06 Feb 2013 11:46:59 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112890369bedd1559000005
Your comments represent the number 1 thing I hate about Apple cultists...they are ignorant about computers AND proud of it. Give each of us the SAME amount of money to build our own computers. You build a Mac and I'll build a PC and I would bet the PC I build will beat the Mac you build on EVERY objective performance benchmark there is. Do you have any knowledge at ALL regarding CPUs, video cards, SSDs etc. The ONLY reason Apple fans can even pretend the Mac is even in the same performance category as a PC is because they compare a $2000 Mac against a $500 PC! I'm talking about FACTS here NOT 'feelings'. You claim to have a 'technology' blog...you would be embarrassed if you had a clue!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112833f69bedd4149000019RSWed, 06 Feb 2013 11:22:23 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112833f69bedd4149000019
You wrote: "While it was generally mocked, Jobs ability to craft and deliver a message that people believed regardless of its credibility was an incredible asset."
Wow.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51127f6fecad045773000002clambosliceWed, 06 Feb 2013 11:06:07 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51127f6fecad045773000002
Maybe Apple is just giving a clue to those same Wall St. geniuses who lost gazillions on mortgage backed securities.
I'm an Apple fanboy and shareholder. Likely you are too if you have a large mutual fund, index fund or stock ETF.
Apple is fine and it's going to continue to make boatloads of cash profits.
Apple's only problem is deciding whether to double the dividends, buy back stock, buy Netflix, etc.
It's times like these that if you have balls can make good money buying into Apple's dips.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51127b8169bedd7635000006Jon FreyWed, 06 Feb 2013 10:49:21 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51127b8169bedd7635000006
Jackn: aside from professional experience, there are plenty of resources that indicate that Apple has it down. How long does it take your PC to fire up in the morning vs. a Macbook Pro? Ever hear of a user's Macbook being devastated by viruses and having to reinstall?
Here's your citation: <a href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/reviews/mac-vs-pc-ultimate-laptop-lab-test#slide-2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/reviews/mac-vs-pc-ultimate-laptop-lab-test#slide-2</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51127b0c6bb3f7935600001adjWed, 06 Feb 2013 10:47:24 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51127b0c6bb3f7935600001a
...you do know that most of the kids working at BI are teenagers?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51127634ecad04d45f000007jacknWed, 06 Feb 2013 10:26:44 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51127634ecad04d45f000007
"Clearly, their products are superior for mobile computing, communications and graphics/video design..."
Citation neededhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/511275c2ecad04b25d00000cTedWed, 06 Feb 2013 10:24:50 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511275c2ecad04b25d00000c
We will see cowboy!!!!! I wouldn't bet my horsehttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/51127587ecad04ab5d00000fJon FreyWed, 06 Feb 2013 10:23:51 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51127587ecad04ab5d00000f
Apple may just be dealing with the void left by Steve Jobs. Clearly, their products are superior for mobile computing, communications and graphics/video design. While most of my clients remain attached to the Microsoft environment for day-to-day computing, Apple has clearly made inroads with its iPhone, which has only been in existence for six years now. You can read more on my blog about the evolution of Apple's devices and the decline of "Personal Computers" at <a href="http://www.richmondcomputer.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" >http://www.richmondcomputer.com</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112710feab8ea842100000eelllroyWed, 06 Feb 2013 10:04:47 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/5112710feab8ea842100000e
"epic fail"...
teenagers are not allowed here, tim.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51127068ecad04d052000018elllroyWed, 06 Feb 2013 10:02:00 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51127068ecad04d052000018
it depends. besides from the enthusiasm of the tech blogosphere do you have any numbers how many percent of the roughly 500 million smartphone sales in 2012 were devices with screen 4" and up (where apple doesn't play)? my guess it is below 20%.
i am not arguing apple shouldn't make one. i wish they would, i just questioning the logic of the pundits that apple is missing much here in terms of sales. i think it is an ascending category but enough time to react. the doom and gloom of "apple doesn't have a phablet, oh my god!" seems a bit premature and exaggerated.
but i could be wrong about the numbers. are there any?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51126e3b69bedd2015000009freddy beeWed, 06 Feb 2013 09:52:43 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51126e3b69bedd2015000009
Jay Yarrow "and the competition hasn't introduced any groundbreaking products that Apple should have made"
oh really? You don't think Apple introducing a form factor rivaling the SGIII might have helped continue their market momentum? #fanboyhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/511268ab69bedd5b0600000celllroyWed, 06 Feb 2013 09:28:59 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511268ab69bedd5b0600000c
it's about time. sj's notion that apple only has to concentrate on its products and the rest will take care of itself is naive at best. time to grow up apple! you are not the small underdog anymore you are the king of the hill and everyone wants to see you stumble. time to control the narrative and hey, by the way tim, you can manage the share price too (up to a point at least), just try it sometime...http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51126848eab8eaed11000007timachesonWed, 06 Feb 2013 09:27:20 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/51126848eab8eaed11000007
Apple is flooding the media with propaganda claiming that the corporation is not doomed.
Of course, this is something they would not need to do if they knew they were not doomed. Apple's famous "reality-distortion field" is in melt-down.
Epic fail.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511266fdecad043c43000020Beltway GregWed, 06 Feb 2013 09:21:49 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/511266fdecad043c43000020
In a related note the WSJ reports that Apple has cut it's component run rate down to a level that suggests they'll sell 300M iPhones in Q2 down from an earlier level of 600M. The Wall Street Journal and Fox News are pretty much the same organization. One is full of BS concerning politics the other is equally as spurious concerning business.