Studio 4.5 start-up time

I'm using the newest release of Studio 4.5 (64 bit, Windows). That is to say, I'm experimenting with it. The problem is the start-up time. I.e. I double-click on the icon, then wait . . . . I just now timed it: over two minutes before it starts to do anything! I have no problem at all with the version of Studio 4 I normally use - it starts right up. I'd like to experiment with Studio 4.5 . . . do I have something set wrong or something? PS I'm working on a regular desktop computer, recently up-graded etc etc (i.e. not a tiny laptop or something).
Thoughts please?

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I am using Win 7 64 bit, on an i7 machine, and DS starts in about 15 seconds, including loading the grey default Genesis figure into the viewport. That is when I start DS4.5 for the first time, later it takes about 12 seconds since it has been cahed I presume.

There is something wrong with how your version works. I am using 4.5.1.6 which is the latest version. I have the default Genesis figure set to load at startup.

Can you see how long it takes to load after the first time, and without the Genesis default character loading?
Are you running as Admin? Do you have anti-virus software running, because that is the only thing that I can think of that would slow it down so dramitically?

One thing I've noticed with mine is that if I close out the app with my Library window open and it is inside my huge Poser runtime, the startup time takes a good long while the next time I open the app. But, if I end my session in a native DS runtime, the next startup is no problem and is quite fast. May be something similar going on for your case.

I have a 5 minute minimum start up (5 to 7 minutes)...and I've determined it is something with QtGui4.dll. My advice...make sure that everything that QtGUI4 needs is up to date...that means Windows, if you are on a Windows system, especially the vcrun files (it seems to have been built for the latest vcrun2010 update), video card drivers (it can use OpenGL to draw the UI), audio drivers (yes, QtGui has an audio component to it) and motherboard drivers.

Thanks for the helpful replies. After reading them I went into "preferences," de-selected the blank file I had been using on start-up, and tried everything again. Start-up time went from 2 minutes to ten seconds. Problem solved . . . weird. (I.e. "weird" since this file causes no trouble at all when I use it with Studio 4.)

24 hrs or so later . . . unfortunately that was really NOT a fix. Sometimes DAZ 4.5 starts up in 10 sec or so, sometimes it takes the full 2 minutes +. I'm inclined to think there is a pattern of some sort but at the moment I really don't see it. Not sure what else to try.

i have long load times too, but only the first time following a system/Windows reboot
if i close DS4.5 and restart it, the load time is almost nil
i suspect it's the content management daemon that goes through all the content folders
maybe it also goes through the gigantic data/ folders
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i changed my default scene to, the genesis figure, then deleted genesis from the scene, and saved this as my new default scene

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oh another thing is, 99% of the time i use DS 4.5,
if i use ds3 and later run ds4.5, the DS4.5 crashes seem more frequent
so i tend to reboot the PC before using playing with DS4.5

Mine starts in 11 seconds, no Genesis scene because I have premade scenes to work for.
my issue is the eternal, ETERNAL, readings throug the disk after scene loaded completely, and that is more than 2 minutes....

- removed all the Poser and old Daz Studio folders from the content library
- tried to swap dlls ( that webkit dll is huge )
- factory reset
- installed the new version of DS 4.5, i was at 4.5.0.114 i think and am now at 4.5.1.6

i still get post-PC-reboot start times of 4 minutes

followed by 10 seconds start times

since all processes (including mcAfee) seem to almost not use CPU time during those painful 4 minutes starts
i still suspect that DS or one of its components is frantically searching for something on my hard disk.
Then later on when i start DS, the location of that something was memorized. and when i reboot it is forgotten

After the first start of the day or after a reboot DS4.5.0.137 takes 20 seconds to fully power up, and that's on a Core 2 quad.

So the big question is what are you guys doing that's different.

I know from experience that if the CMS isn't running properly that DS4 can take a hell of a long time to start, or never start as it just sits sulking in the task manager. Now I only use the CMS when I'm doing content, it has a couple of functions built in that saves me having to text edit everything later, so I have set it to manaul start in Services.msc, that way it doesn't "bang heads" with everything else on my PC during start up or a reboot, so for most of the time that I'm using DS4 the CMS isn't running.

I've never had DS set to load a scene at startup, so when DS starts it only has to load it's plugins (it has less to load than most as I delete the ones I'll never use) and create the UI, it doesn't even have to create a camera as I have that turned off too.

atkogl.dll is an AsusTek OpenGl dll (according to a cursory google search ) ---it's not a solution but it may give clues

---if i look in DS4.5's main registry keys i see that many of the default directories ( example the import directory ) point to F:\ which is normal since that's where i render and import/export the most

---so, at this point my hypothesis are,

issues with versions of openGL32.dllissues with how the nvidia card reports its OpenGL version

For others who find this thread, ASUS installs a custom opengl driver ATKOGL.dll,
which is apart of the Asus enhanced display driver, this must be removed via add remove
programs, when using any driver other then those provided by ASUS, even if you are using
the same asus card otherwise the OGL subsystem is rendered useless.

re-installed the nvidia drivers -- i used the "custom installation" option, then check-marked the "clean install" it erases tweaks you may have made, clean slate

for experts: i created a folder named f:\DazIO. Using regedit i changed the following Daz Studio 4 keys to "f:\DazIO"
RenderDir0,ImportDir,ExportDir,ImageOpenDir,ImageSaveDir,VideoExportDir,AudioImportDir,LoadSaveDir,RenderEnd,ImportDir0

i also removed all the annoying start-up programs that accumulated with time, notably the RealTek programs that i often saw conflict with nvidia drivers

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instead of 1.5, 2 or more minutes, it now takes 50 seconds to start DS4.5, immediately after a reboot of the PC ,

Subsequent DS4.5 starts take only 7 seconds ( it was already about that fast before )

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i suspect the post-re-boot slow-downs are related to things happening in
C:\Documents and Settings\Jacques Phenom\Application Data\NVIDIA\GLCache

i upgraded to windows 7 64 bit, from scratch
and of course there's no problems anymore,
starting ds4.5 with an empty scene takes 6 seconds
though when i'll install DS3.1 Advanced side by side
with DS4.5 maybe things will change

i upgraded to windows 7 64 bit, from scratch
and of course there's no problems anymore,
starting ds4.5 with an empty scene takes 6 seconds
though when i'll install DS3.1 Advanced side by side
with DS4.5 maybe things will change

It shouldn't do, I have both 32 bit and 64 bit DS3 installed, and my loading times are just a few seconds for 4.5. They go into different folders from 4.5 anyway, and can be run side by side.