Is it too far-fetched of a theory to think Belichick is "leaking" all these fictional Gronk stories to keep the Saints guessing? Probably. But wouldn't that just be hilarious? I'm really rooting for this theory.

Is it too far-fetched of a theory to think Belichick is "leaking" all these fictional Gronk stories to keep the Saints guessing? Probably. But wouldn't that just be hilarious? I'm really rooting for this theory.

haha

like your style, but no.

No one believed me. They said I was crazy.

But I knew! I knew all along that it was Belichick in the library with the lead pipe.

On a more serious note, I wonder if Andrews would have to be in Foxborough to not give Gronk clearance to play?

As long as he is back by week 10... I'm happy with that turn out. Gives him plenty of time get right, and plenty of game time to hit his stride. He's been practicing, lifting, and getting ready.

I think the media has been driving this whole thing. Pats should have put him on PUP regardless, but that's hindsight anyways... I mean back surgery and 4 arm surgeries? I guess they forgot he is human...

I bet half the people with desk jobs would still be out of work with those surgeries, never mind football.

As long as he is back by week 10... I'm happy with that turn out. Gives him plenty of time get right, and plenty of game time to hit his stride. He's been practicing, lifting, and getting ready.

I think the media has been driving this whole thing. Pats should have put him on PUP regardless, but that's hindsight anyways... I mean back surgery and 4 arm surgeries? I guess they forgot he is human...

I bet half the people with desk jobs would still be out of work with those surgeries, never mind football.

Let Gronk get to 100%, not 95, 98, 99... 100% healthy.

I just posted this on another thread:

My problem is not with Gronk himself. I like to think that he wants to play but is being manipulated by other forces close him. I don't think he's smart enough to make decisions on what's best for him long term on his own.

What I'd like to know is more medical related.

How will they know when his arm will be strong enough for real live game action.

Do they do some kind of bone density test?

Is it something that can be seen on an ordinary x-ray?

Is it something that will get stronger with each week that it is not stressed?

I'd just like to know how the decision is made by the doctor/doctors that he's not ready yet.

Is it too far-fetched of a theory to think Belichick is "leaking" all these fictional Gronk stories to keep the Saints guessing? Probably. But wouldn't that just be hilarious? I'm really rooting for this theory.

haha

like your style, but no.

No one believed me. They said I was crazy.

But I knew! I knew all along that it was Belichick in the library with the lead pipe.

On a more serious note, I wonder if Andrews would have to be in Foxborough to not give Gronk clearance to play?

That's what is suspicious and makes it appear like this is posturing by Gronk/Rosenheaus.

Any clinician in that situation would want to analyze the person, you know, in-person?

Does your doctor tell you to touch your toes for a physical via Skype? No.

The whole thing sounds like posturing and to point fingers. Remember when Gomie had his neck issue and called Andrews? Andrews is not a neck guy. He's not a back guy a leg guy or even a bone guy.

It's become like this trendy little agent technique to make it seem like the team itself was negligent. That's really what this smells like.

Andrews has had decades of grear work in the arm area with pitchers in baseball or anyone who needs Tommy John surgery. That's really where he comes in. Not this silly worldwide tour every time someone blows out an ACL or breaks an arm.

What a joke.

What I mean is maybe Andrews is not giving clearance for Gronk because he's not here and hasn't physically examined him.

I agree it's weird that they would ask Andrews if he's not the specialist. But I'm just not as convinced that it's something sinister done by the agent.

As long as he is back by week 10... I'm happy with that turn out. Gives him plenty of time get right, and plenty of game time to hit his stride. He's been practicing, lifting, and getting ready.

I think the media has been driving this whole thing. Pats should have put him on PUP regardless, but that's hindsight anyways... I mean back surgery and 4 arm surgeries? I guess they forgot he is human...

I bet half the people with desk jobs would still be out of work with those surgeries, never mind football.

Let Gronk get to 100%, not 95, 98, 99... 100% healthy.

I just posted this on another thread:

My problem is not with Gronk himself. I like to think that he wants to play but is being manipulated by other forces close him. I don't think he's smart enough to make decisions on what's best for him long term on his own.

What I'd like to know is more medical related.

How will they know when his arm will be strong enough for real live game action.

Do they do some kind of bone density test?

Is it something that can be seen on an ordinary x-ray?

Is it something that will get stronger with each week that it is not stressed?

I'd just like to know how the decision is made by the doctor/doctors that he's not ready yet.

Is it just an educated guess?

Don't you think all of that has been done, though? Why wouldn't he be PUPd if there was such a great concern to be more conservative? I just don't buy after the mutliple surgeries and losing Hernandez, they were interested in racing him back.

I think this is the point that the ones who say "don't rush him back" are missing.

Week 3, 4, 5 and now 6, was never "rushed back".

It is absolutely not an educated guess at all. He's been rehabbing for 3 months, with daily management.

Yes, I think that he was medically evaluated prior to allowing him back to fully practice.

And I know that practice is not the same as game action so, what are they looking to see before they clear him to play?

I know as a fan that I don't have any "right" to know every little detail of the players medical status.

I just want to know for my own curiosity how they make the determination.

As long as he is back by week 10... I'm happy with that turn out. Gives him plenty of time get right, and plenty of game time to hit his stride. He's been practicing, lifting, and getting ready.

I think the media has been driving this whole thing. Pats should have put him on PUP regardless, but that's hindsight anyways... I mean back surgery and 4 arm surgeries? I guess they forgot he is human...

I bet half the people with desk jobs would still be out of work with those surgeries, never mind football.

Let Gronk get to 100%, not 95, 98, 99... 100% healthy.

I just posted this on another thread:

My problem is not with Gronk himself. I like to think that he wants to play but is being manipulated by other forces close him. I don't think he's smart enough to make decisions on what's best for him long term on his own.

What I'd like to know is more medical related.

How will they know when his arm will be strong enough for real live game action.

Do they do some kind of bone density test?

Is it something that can be seen on an ordinary x-ray?

Is it something that will get stronger with each week that it is not stressed?

I'd just like to know how the decision is made by the doctor/doctors that he's not ready yet.

Is it just an educated guess?

Don't you think all of that has been done, though? Why wouldn't he be PUPd if there was such a great concern to be more conservative? I just don't buy after the mutliple surgeries and losing Hernandez, they were interested in racing him back.

I think this is the point that the ones who say "don't rush him back" are missing.

Week 3, 4, 5 and now 6, was never "rushed back".

It is absolutely not an educated guess at all. He's been rehabbing for 3 months, with daily management.

Yes, I think that he was medically evaluated prior to allowing him back to fully practice.

And I know that practice is not the same as game action so, what are they looking to see before they clear him to play?

I know as a fan that I don't have any "right" to know every little detail of the players medical status.

I just want to know for my own curiosity how they make the determination.

^ agreed, the whole situation seems strange. The last surgery was in May. If the arm is truly not ready yet what is a few more weeks gonna do? Wish we could get more info on this.

As long as he is back by week 10... I'm happy with that turn out. Gives him plenty of time get right, and plenty of game time to hit his stride. He's been practicing, lifting, and getting ready.

I think the media has been driving this whole thing. Pats should have put him on PUP regardless, but that's hindsight anyways... I mean back surgery and 4 arm surgeries? I guess they forgot he is human...

I bet half the people with desk jobs would still be out of work with those surgeries, never mind football.

Let Gronk get to 100%, not 95, 98, 99... 100% healthy.

I just posted this on another thread:

My problem is not with Gronk himself. I like to think that he wants to play but is being manipulated by other forces close him. I don't think he's smart enough to make decisions on what's best for him long term on his own.

What I'd like to know is more medical related.

How will they know when his arm will be strong enough for real live game action.

Do they do some kind of bone density test?

Is it something that can be seen on an ordinary x-ray?

Is it something that will get stronger with each week that it is not stressed?

I'd just like to know how the decision is made by the doctor/doctors that he's not ready yet.

Is it just an educated guess?

Don't you think all of that has been done, though? Why wouldn't he be PUPd if there was such a great concern to be more conservative? I just don't buy after the mutliple surgeries and losing Hernandez, they were interested in racing him back.

I think this is the point that the ones who say "don't rush him back" are missing.

Week 3, 4, 5 and now 6, was never "rushed back".

It is absolutely not an educated guess at all. He's been rehabbing for 3 months, with daily management.

Yes, I think that he was medically evaluated prior to allowing him back to fully practice.

And I know that practice is not the same as game action so, what are they looking to see before they clear him to play?

I know as a fan that I don't have any "right" to know every little detail of the players medical status.

I just want to know for my own curiosity how they make the determination.

^ agreed, the whole situation seems strange. The last surgery was in May. If the arm is truly not ready yet what is a few more weeks gonna do? Wish we could get more info on this.

What's a few more weeks going to do? 2-3 weeks could go a long way IMO. When considering the abuse for 3 football games at the TE position.

Digital Images can be sent via secure networks and reviewed by doctors anywhere in the world. This makes it unnecessary for Andrews to be in Foxborough but I wouldn't expect some media guy on a Radio station talk show to understand that concept. I would think everyone would know this.