Still, if it were a done deal, I wouldn't want the Knicks to do more than work around the edges, give the recent draft picks, acquisitions, another extended look next season. Make an exception for Kawhi though.

Otherwise, a year of seasoning for the recent picks, while Durant gets healthy, and maybe another trip to the lotto would be the way to go. Hopefully by the time Durant would get back, the Knicks would have the cap room to sign another star. Our young core would have enough seasoning to keep the stars from carrying too much of the load during the regular season.

Still, if it were a done deal, I wouldn't want the Knicks to do more than work around the edges, give the recent draft picks, acquisitions, another extended look next season. Make an exception for Kawhi though.

Otherwise, a year of seasoning for the recent picks, while Durant gets healthy, and maybe another trip to the lotto would be the way to go. Hopefully by the time Durant would get back, the Knicks would have the cap room to sign another star. Our young core would have enough seasoning to keep the stars from carrying too much of the load during the regular season.

Why do we always think the young on the Knicks won’t become stars? Just maybe one or two of the Knicks young will become a star player. The mind set that the Knicks as an organization has, has infiltrated the fans thinking. Don’t give up on the youth movement.

Still, if it were a done deal, I wouldn't want the Knicks to do more than work around the edges, give the recent draft picks, acquisitions, another extended look next season. Make an exception for Kawhi though.

Otherwise, a year of seasoning for the recent picks, while Durant gets healthy, and maybe another trip to the lotto would be the way to go. Hopefully by the time Durant would get back, the Knicks would have the cap room to sign another star. Our young core would have enough seasoning to keep the stars from carrying too much of the load during the regular season.

Why do always think the young on the Knicks won’t become stars? Just maybe one or two of the Knicks young will become a star player. The mind set that the Knicks as an organization has, has infiltrated the fans thinking. Don’t give up on the youth movement.

Just got finished saying in another thread that I believe that some of our young core (and Barrett) are talented enough to be stars down the road. They arent stars yet.

Stars or not, our recent picks can help keep our all-stars (whoever they may be) from wearing out before the playoffs.

Still, if it were a done deal, I wouldn't want the Knicks to do more than work around the edges, give the recent draft picks, acquisitions, another extended look next season. Make an exception for Kawhi though.

Otherwise, a year of seasoning for the recent picks, while Durant gets healthy, and maybe another trip to the lotto would be the way to go. Hopefully by the time Durant would get back, the Knicks would have the cap room to sign another star. Our young core would have enough seasoning to keep the stars from carrying too much of the load during the regular season.

Why do always think the young on the Knicks won’t become stars? Just maybe one or two of the Knicks young will become a star player. The mind set that the Knicks as an organization has, has infiltrated the fans thinking. Don’t give up on the youth movement.

Just got finished saying in another thread that I believe that some of our young core (and Barrett) are talented enough to be stars down the road. They arent stars yet.

Stars or not, our recent picks can help keep our all-stars (whoever they may be) from wearing out before the playoffs.

Sometime there is a downfall to having stars sometimes they prevent young players from becoming stars.

Still, if it were a done deal, I wouldn't want the Knicks to do more than work around the edges, give the recent draft picks, acquisitions, another extended look next season. Make an exception for Kawhi though.

Otherwise, a year of seasoning for the recent picks, while Durant gets healthy, and maybe another trip to the lotto would be the way to go. Hopefully by the time Durant would get back, the Knicks would have the cap room to sign another star. Our young core would have enough seasoning to keep the stars from carrying too much of the load during the regular season.

Why do we always think the young on the Knicks won’t become stars? Just maybe one or two of the Knicks young will become a star player. The mind set that the Knicks as an organization has, has infiltrated the fans thinking. Don’t give up on the youth movement.

Because we have yet to develop any player into a star, hard to be optimistic if it hasn't happen in..well...ever

Still, if it were a done deal, I wouldn't want the Knicks to do more than work around the edges, give the recent draft picks, acquisitions, another extended look next season. Make an exception for Kawhi though.

Otherwise, a year of seasoning for the recent picks, while Durant gets healthy, and maybe another trip to the lotto would be the way to go. Hopefully by the time Durant would get back, the Knicks would have the cap room to sign another star. Our young core would have enough seasoning to keep the stars from carrying too much of the load during the regular season.

Why do we always think the young on the Knicks won’t become stars? Just maybe one or two of the Knicks young will become a star player. The mind set that the Knicks as an organization has, has infiltrated the fans thinking. Don’t give up on the youth movement.

Because we have yet to develop any player into a star, hard to be optimistic if it hasn't happen in..well...ever

There is a cap on "Likely To Be Earned" or "Unlikely To Be Earned" incentives. The latter doesn't have cap implications but there are massive restrictions. Injury history is a mitigating factor into how to calculate the latter category.

In theory, just spitballing, a one year deal plus a series of player options, if that first year is a "redshirt" year, then it's possible each year after can show a readjustment in the Unlikely To Be Earned incentive category.

The Chris Bosh Rule might also form a potential escape clause, but not likely ( It would be a cash hit, but the cap hit would change, insurance would take a massive hit on the cash side as well)

This is why teams have guys who are strictly capologists or CBA only experts. It could, just from a contract side, get sort of interesting here. If a team finds a loophole, the league will close it, but not until it's been used at least once first. Very very interesting.

Still, if it were a done deal, I wouldn't want the Knicks to do more than work around the edges, give the recent draft picks, acquisitions, another extended look next season. Make an exception for Kawhi though.

Otherwise, a year of seasoning for the recent picks, while Durant gets healthy, and maybe another trip to the lotto would be the way to go. Hopefully by the time Durant would get back, the Knicks would have the cap room to sign another star. Our young core would have enough seasoning to keep the stars from carrying too much of the load during the regular season.

Why do we always think the young on the Knicks won’t become stars? Just maybe one or two of the Knicks young will become a star player. The mind set that the Knicks as an organization has, has infiltrated the fans thinking. Don’t give up on the youth movement.

Because we have yet to develop any player into a star, hard to be optimistic if it hasn't happen in..well...ever

Patrick Ewing, Mark Jackson....

David Lee became an all-star. Guess it depends on how you're defining star.

Still, if it were a done deal, I wouldn't want the Knicks to do more than work around the edges, give the recent draft picks, acquisitions, another extended look next season. Make an exception for Kawhi though.

Otherwise, a year of seasoning for the recent picks, while Durant gets healthy, and maybe another trip to the lotto would be the way to go. Hopefully by the time Durant would get back, the Knicks would have the cap room to sign another star. Our young core would have enough seasoning to keep the stars from carrying too much of the load during the regular season.

Why do we always think the young on the Knicks won’t become stars? Just maybe one or two of the Knicks young will become a star player. The mind set that the Knicks as an organization has, has infiltrated the fans thinking. Don’t give up on the youth movement.

Because we have yet to develop any player into a star, hard to be optimistic if it hasn't happen in..well...ever

Patrick Ewing, Mark Jackson....

David Lee became an all-star. Guess it depends on how you're defining star.

Patrick Ewing was already a star, he helped the knicks more than they helped him, and absolutely no one, from owner, to president, to gm to coach, had anything to do with the knicks of the late 80's and all of the 90"s.

You mind as well say that was an entirely different franchise with the same name..

Under this regime, you have nothing but bad development, bad relationships, and no kind of culture or identity whatsoever, and every yr turns into, wait til next yr..lol

anrst wrote:I am shocked at how many fans and media (mainstream and blog) voices are pumping the idea that signing KD is still a good move by the knicks

how is this possible... it would be completely insane ...

if we do this stupid thing and sign KD while he's lying in a hospital bed ... i ... will ... i dunno

JUST DONT SO IT SCOTT

We're going to do it unfortunately, our only hope is if KD saves us from ourselves and takes the warriors or nets offer.

At the end of the day I can look on it as: we're never going to sign a hero with cap space. I'd rather use it to accept contracts for picks or make shrewd low key signings, but we'll still have a max space for that. Look on diminished KD as a piece you add to whatever our youth develops into (like a free first round pick in a year or two). If you accept we'll never sign a max allstar, then it's not as maddening

anrst wrote:I am shocked at how many fans and media (mainstream and blog) voices are pumping the idea that signing KD is still a good move by the knicks

how is this possible... it would be completely insane ...

if we do this stupid thing and sign KD while he's lying in a hospital bed ... i ... will ... i dunno

JUST DONT SO IT SCOTT

We're going to do it unfortunately, our only hope is if KD saves us from ourselves and takes the warriors or nets offer.

At the end of the day I can look on it as: we're never going to sign a hero with cap space. I'd rather use it to accept contracts for picks or make shrewd low key signings, but we'll still have a max space for that. Look on diminished KD as a piece you add to whatever our youth develops into (like a free first round pick in a year or two). If you accept we'll never sign a max allstar, then it's not as maddening

If they sign KD it isn't going to turn out well. When he comes back in 21 he probably has a Heyward work his way back year. That means he is what he is going to be post achilles injury when he is 33.