Pretty sure it'd be the latter since it's not like the image coming out of the PS2 is actually refreshing faster. It's just analysing each frame and creating new frames to interpolate between them, which takes time, which means lag.

Yeah, and depending on your tv, if you're experiencing frame drops, it's due to your tv trying to process all the visuals...hence, some of the older generic vids could cause massive frame drops due to such high image processing. SD CRTs handles it fully, HD/ED CRTs handle it great, Plasmas handle it fine, and LED/LCDs have trouble (unless you buy a $3000+ set, and then you'd prolly still have issues).

So very soon I will be parting ways with my 30" CRT Panasonic Tau HDTV as I am simply fed up with lugging that heavy behemoth around with me and am really missing progressive scan capability (as very few PS3 games seem to display in 1080i, I have to play a lot of stuff in SD mode). While I am pretty much over my IIDX addiction, I might still like to play it from time to time, so when I move to Illinois next month I would like to purchase a TV that won't render most of those games unplayable (I have played IIDX on some LCDs [namely Samsung and Vizio] where none of the Timing Adjust settings on IIDX12-15 felt right due to their lack of minute adjustability that IIDX16 was provided with). I mean, I guess I could always pick up a small, cheap CRT for IIDX, but there's no way I'm getting a widescreen CRT ever again and I would miss playing in 16:9 mode at least every once in a while.

My question is thus: are Panasonic Viera plasmas still recommended? I'd rather not go with the Sharp Aquos as I've never liked its picture quality, and Panasonics are robust machines that can literally withstand a direct lightning strike (at least my Tau did with only its fuse needing replacement). If not, what model TV would you guys recommend nowadays?

I have recently bought a 42 inch Panasonic Plasma just for IIDX, no visible lag. Model: TH-P42U30SDon't trust me though, my scores shows that my timing is not great at IIDX, and equally bad at the arcade.

Don't bother with a Sony...at least, the one I got (and paid extra for a nicer model) is crap when it comes to lag. Changed as many settings as I could and people still complain about lag issues playing Marvel. Rhythm games are out of the question.

booted up some troopz and even with no timing adjustment it was GOOD. A WEBSITE said that the lag for this tv was like 5 or 6 ms??? any lag felt more like the difference between different styles SO YEAH good stuff.

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Sorry to bump the thread, but since Black Friday is upon us this week (that and I'm in the market for a new set), I'm wondering if folks have run into any recent HDTV's that play nicely with IIDX (my 12 year old CRT is on the bubble), or if there are any that folks will be trying to eye this holiday season? Judging by the list of TV's from the Shoryuken post, a good chunk of them are discontinued, so your mileage may vary on that front.

Hi everyone, look into the OSSC, it's a realtime scan converter hard and extreme. I mean, it's a Component/RGB -> HDMI device designed for gaming with literally no lag (uses a line buffer so it's only a few scanlines behind realtime, something like 1/200th of a frame's worth of time behind realtime).

If your HDTV feels generally non-laggy for other games then it should feel just as non-laggy with OSSC.

I've been using an Elgato Game Capture HD (the only model with an input in addition to HDMI), which works pretty well for me. It's the same deal as the OSSC, Component->HDMI (though it doesn't support RGB, the PS2's Component setting must be set to YPbPr for it to work). Unfortunately, I can't play anything older than 9th this way, as my TV complains that it doesn't support the resolution.

Hi everyone, look into the OSSC, it's a realtime scan converter hard and extreme. I mean, it's a Component/RGB -> HDMI device designed for gaming with literally no lag (uses a line buffer so it's only a few scanlines behind realtime, something like 1/200th of a frame's worth of time behind realtime).

If your HDTV feels generally non-laggy for other games then it should feel just as non-laggy with OSSC.

I decided to get one of these and while it's a bit tricky to set up (be sure to read the instructions carefully!) it works great. On my 60" HDTV I was able to get AAA's on easy DP songs on two styles: Empress and 3rd Style (lol).

I've been using an Elgato Game Capture HD (the only model with an input in addition to HDMI), which works pretty well for me. It's the same deal as the OSSC, Component->HDMI (though it doesn't support RGB, the PS2's Component setting must be set to YPbPr for it to work). Unfortunately, I can't play anything older than 9th this way, as my TV complains that it doesn't support the resolution.

Just spitting out HDMI doesn't make it the same, the realtime nature of OSSC is what sets it apart. That and it can definitely ingest non-interlaced 15khz so 8th and under would work (as would 5keys on PSX, etc).