--- Log opened Fri Apr 01 00:53:26 2011
01:27 < DarkStar_> Oi, don't suppose there's any conf method of forcing emCORE to boot directly into Rockbox? My LCD won't refresh and Rockbox seems stable.
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05:01 < geek7> good morning
05:01 < geek7> well, afternoon
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05:17 < geek7> TheSeven: any luck with the hdd checker crashes?
05:34 < Farthen> he improved the app
05:34 < Farthen> i'm not sure but i think it can't hurt to run http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/hddscan2.ubi
05:35 < geek7> hmm
05:35 < Farthen> this would probably be the one TheSeven would have given you if he was here
05:35 < geek7> silly question but.. how do i run ubi files? ._.
05:35 < Farthen> run it through umsboot
05:35 < Farthen> start umsboot and drop it in there
05:36 < geek7> ahh, so just drop it into the data drive?
05:37 < Farthen> yep and then safely remove it
05:38 < geek7> hmm, its apparently not detected
05:38 < geek7> (still(
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05:43 < geek7> any alternate way to get it in?
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07:36 < geek7> hm. managed to get it in via a windows box :)
07:38 < geek7> should i leave this plugged in for power while i do this?
07:40 < STeeF> geek7, I think its better to leave it plugged in for power as the HDD consumes the most power
07:41 < geek7> will do
09:07 < TheSeven> [03:27] Oi, don't suppose there's any conf method of forcing emCORE to boot directly into Rockbox? My LCD won't refresh and Rockbox seems stable. << grab fastboot.emcoreapp and save it as /.boot/init.emcoreapp on your ipod
09:08 < TheSeven> geek7: you can also run the ubi file with "sudo emcore.py runfirmware 0x08000000 hddscan2.ubi"
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09:09 < TheSeven> geek7: it doesn't matter if you temporarily unplug it e.g. to move it to a different power source, but as this will probably be running for days, you should ensure that it has enough power available to survive :)
09:09 < TheSeven> if, for any reason, the battery drops below 50%, it will spin down the HDD and wait for it to charge
09:11 < TheSeven> geek7: what do the stats say until now?
09:11 < TheSeven> i'm also running it on my broken one currently, and so far it has processed 4 gigabytes (running for like 12 hours now)
09:11 < TheSeven> but on my disk the bad sectors are near the beginning
09:19 < geek7> TheSeven: mostly zeros other than initial (39013574) write ok (6829) and read ok (39731)
09:19 < geek7> oh and processing sector 46505 of 39072706
09:23 < geek7> hmm. anyway to dump out what the screen is saying to a linux box's console ? ;p
09:30 < TheSeven> not during the process, but at the end a summary file will be written
09:31 < TheSeven> how long has that been running now?
09:32 < TheSeven> every sector is 4K btw
09:38 < geek7> not very long, a few hours
09:38 < geek7> about 3 hours from the timestamps
09:39 < geek7> the errors should start at around the 30 gig mark
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10:14 < TheSeven> geek7: this is not "just" a bad sector scan, but also a sector stability check (the sectors are read and written in different orders and with different patterns repeatedly), so there will be a factor of 20 to 40 overhead compared to copying files to the disk
10:14 < TheSeven> so if the disk would be clean, it should be done after about ~36-48h
10:16 < TheSeven> mine has crunched 4GB overnight, with 2838 bad sectors in that range
10:29 < geek7> TheSeven: i'd point out, attempting to format with linux took me over 3 weeks to scan ;p
10:29 < geek7> 36-48 hours is fine
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10:31 < TheSeven> 36-48 hours *assuming that there are no bad sectors*
10:31 < TheSeven> if there are some, it will take longer
10:32 < geek7> well, i'm fairly certain there are ;p
10:32 < TheSeven> the exact time might end up being more than a week as well, depending on the kind of damage
10:32 < TheSeven> however, if it's really just the last few gigabytes that are bad, you can cancel it at that point and just mark that whole block as bad
10:34 < geek7> its not the last few
10:35 < geek7> well, it could be ;p
10:35 < geek7> but its definately at 30 gb
10:37 < TheSeven> yeah, but you said that the area that was really hard to scan was at the very end of the disk
10:38 < TheSeven> so i'd assume that my tool manages to crunch the bad area at 30gb in reasonable time as well
10:40 < geek7> well, actually, it slowed down at a certain point, then... went odd
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15:54 < ParadisoShlee> How's the kernel bugs going?
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16:31 < Farthen> ParadisoShlee: they are being worked on. this may take some more days though... bug tracing and fixing isn't a linear process so we can't really tell
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16:55 < ParadisoShlee> I'm actually more interested in seeing how long until TheSeven wants to hit that button of mass publication.
16:56 < ParadisoShlee> I'm really quiet enjoying myself with rockbox atm.
16:57 < Farthen> i think there is nothing really blocking it except for this bug/those bugs
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17:38 < TheSeven> ParadisoShlee: Haven't i already hit that button?
17:38 < TheSeven> (at least for the ipod classic)
17:39 < TheSeven> i'll probably release a bug fix release soon which eliminates two kernel bugs, unless I figure out where the remaining ones are coming from
17:39 < TheSeven> the ones I fixed don't seem to have anything to do with the boot menu lockups
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17:48 < justanotherperso> Hey guys, just saw the Wiki and decided to give Rockbox a go. I have a 160 gig iPod Classic, I believe it's the fat one (could be slim, I don't know lol). Did the install and the menu was really messed up, couldn't read much and the rockbox.image failed to load. I saw that this was common, I'd really like to help and be a testee for this. How can I help? Any updates on this stuff?
17:51 < TheSeven> justanotherperso: Known issues :/
17:51 < TheSeven> Have been worked around in trunk, but not released yet
17:52 < TheSeven> if you can boot rockbox, here's a temporary workaround:
17:52 < TheSeven> download http://files.freemyipod.org/tmp/resetvoltages.emcoreapp and save it as /.boot/init.emcoreapp on your ipod's hard drive
17:54 < justanotherperso> cool beans man thanks! couldn't boot rockbox, but I might try again later.
17:55 < justanotherperso> I'll be happy to test it out again, I just switched to linux and managing an iPod without iTunes is a bit hard haha
17:55 < justanotherperso> Rockbox would really help me out on this
17:55 < justanotherperso> Thanks man, I'll come back later, take care!
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21:43 < DarkStar_> herroall.
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21:48 < pradalvr> why is jail breaking the new iPhone such a hard thing? who is in charge of this operation anyway?
21:53 < DarkStar_> Jailbreaking isn't hard. We aren't jailbreaking anything.
21:53 < DarkStar_> Well, I mean, I *do*, but that's not the point of this community.
21:55 < pradalvr> but the new iPhone cant be jail broken
21:55 < DarkStar_> iPhone 4?
21:55 < DarkStar_> I jailbroke one for my friend last night quite successfully.
21:55 < pradalvr> yes 4.3
21:56 < pradalvr> i know the 4.2 can
21:56 < DarkStar_> iOS 4.3 can be jailbroken, but it's tethered right now. And if you don't know why it can't be untethered, you don't know what you're bitching about.
21:58 < pradalvr> Okie dokie.. then i don't know what i am bitchen about .. I spoke to a guy that jailbreaks and he told me the jailbreak is buggy and not worth it and i would be taking a chance of the phone being bricked
21:59 < DarkStar_> You wouldn't. That guy has his head up his ass. By any regard, this channel isn't about jailbreaking, it's a community that's been working on an alternative boot loader for non-iOS devices for firmware like Rockbox.
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22:00 < DarkStar_> The issue with a tethered jailbreak is if you reboot your iOS device, it won't boot until you connect it to a computer running the jailbreak and do an initialization process.
22:01 < pradalvr> so when he calls me back i will tell him the guy from irc said," your heads up your ass"
22:01 < DarkStar_> Yup.
22:01 < pradalvr> lol
22:02 < DarkStar_> I have a 4.3 iPhone 4 sitting on my desk and it's jailbroken mate.
22:02 < DarkStar_> There's an iPod touch too.
22:03 < DarkStar_> And two 2nd gen nano's running emCORE (the current focus of this channel.) ^-^
22:03 < pradalvr> so if the guy does the initialization process it will work without being initialized again?
22:03 < pradalvr> Look i am a girl learning this fast
22:04 < DarkStar_> No. You have to do it every time the device boots. (Not standby, but an actual fresh boot.)
22:04 * TheSeven wonders if the topic of this channel is really THAT hard to understand
22:04 < DarkStar_> And girls don't exist on the internet.
22:04 < DarkStar_> I don't think it is broskii.
22:04 < pradalvr> why do guys always say that
22:04 < DarkStar_> Did you ever give any thought (or see) my idea of forcing emCORE to just boot straight into Rockbox, TheSeven ?
22:04 < pradalvr> you know programming is allot like auto machanics
22:05 < DarkStar_> Two things girls are devoid in the field of. ^
22:05 < pradalvr> you know programming is allot like auto mechanics
22:05 < TheSeven> DarkStar_: fastboot.emcoreapp?
22:05 < DarkStar_> And public void main(string[] args) {} is hardly like "Pass me the three-eights."
22:06 < DarkStar_> TheSeven: I didn't know that was a thing. How do I make it run on this nani?
22:06 < DarkStar_> *nano, fml
22:06 < TheSeven> save it as /.boot/init.emcoreapp, and it will boot straight to rockbox unless you hold a button during boot
22:06 < DarkStar_> Hmm, sweet.
22:06 < pradalvr> on the phone.. hold on
22:08 < DarkStar_> Possible stupid question, where do I find fastboot.emcoreapp?
22:10 < DarkStar_> Never mind, it's in the releases wiki page.
22:13 < DarkStar_> Working, I think this will serve well enough as a workaround.
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22:25 < pradalvr> whats fastboot.emcoreapp
22:30 < pradalvr> Just curious.. apparently the iphone guy knew what he was talking about
22:32 < pradalvr> the jail breaking isn't 100%
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23:08 < DarkStar_> pradalvr: He didn't, it is 100%. It's tethered. Fastboot makes emCORE boot directly into Rockbox. The LCD doesn't work for some devices using emCORE.
23:09 < TheSeven> actually it seems to be a bug in the way the dithering code drives the LCD
23:11 < pradalvr> sure
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23:51 < user890104> this error is preventing me from making a build of emcore for nano 2g: http://pastebin.com/SL4AmVTb
23:51 < user890104> using svn head and a rockbox toolchain
23:52 < TheSeven> user890104: that's usually a sign of a missing file in /flashfiles
23:52 < TheSeven> maybe rockbox.ipod.ucl is missing?
23:54 < user890104> nope, it's there
23:54 < user890104> -rw-r--r-- 1 venci venci 286K 2011-04-02 02:50 freemyipod/apps/installer-ipodnano2g/flashfiles/rockbox.ipod.ucl
23:55 < user890104> a list of all files found there: http://pastebin.com/Ffv8N2sw
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