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Re: Very complimentary thread on Shaggybevo about ISU/Jack Trice

Originally Posted by FarminCy

Nice to see UT does have some respectful fans.

Biggest piece of irony in that whole thread is someone from Mcintire, Iowa throwing another part of the state under the bus. I always laugh when I see people who are from BFE ripping on other areas that they consider BFE. No offense Al, just find it funny.

It's not about the BFE thing. Perhaps I didn't do a good enough job of making that clear. Western Iowa is more culturally similar to Nebraska. It's not a rural or trashy thing, it's more of an ideological thing.

It's also a joke. Lots of nice towns in western Iowa (in fact, many of those towns are probably in nicer shape), but the Vander Plaats/Steve King crowd is more typical of Nebraska politics than Iowa politics.

I don't want to cave the thread, but those guys probably wouldn't get elected in Central or Eastern Iowa.

Re: Very complimentary thread on Shaggybevo about ISU/Jack Trice

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

It's not about the BFE thing. Perhaps I didn't do a good enough job of making that clear. Western Iowa is more culturally similar to Nebraska. It's not a rural or trashy thing, it's more of an ideological thing.

It's also a joke. Lots of nice towns in western Iowa (in fact, many of those towns are probably in nicer shape), but the Vander Plaats/Steve King crowd is more typical of Nebraska politics than Iowa politics.

I don't want to cave the thread, but those guys probably wouldn't get elected in Central or Eastern Iowa.

I will never hire you in trade negotiations. You traded away Okoboji or at least a large amount of the good times at the Lakes in your deal. Nebraska now owns Taco House too.

Re: Very complimentary thread on Shaggybevo about ISU/Jack Trice

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

It's not about the BFE thing. Perhaps I didn't do a good enough job of making that clear. Western Iowa is more culturally similar to Nebraska. It's not a rural or trashy thing, it's more of an ideological thing.

It's also a joke. Lots of nice towns in western Iowa (in fact, many of those towns are probably in nicer shape), but the Vander Plaats/Steve King crowd is more typical of Nebraska politics than Iowa politics.

I don't want to cave the thread, but those guys probably wouldn't get elected in Central or Eastern Iowa.

I grew up in western Iowa and now live in central Iowa and farm in both places. When comparing small towns I have seen basically no difference in ideology between western and central Iowa. What changes the dynamic is Des Moines and Ames in central Iowa and all the larger factory towns in eastern Iowa. I know Steve King personally and while I don't agree with him on social issues he is a big supporter of agriculture and industry which is good for the state and particularly western Iowa.

One thing to remember about western Iowa is that whether or not you are a politician, most don't view the rest of Iowa as an ally. Most dont want to view themselves closer to Nebraskans but history has shown that state government and the rest of the state of Iowa very rarely does what is in the best interest for western Iowa due to lack of population and lack of votes. There will always be a rogue or seperationist mindset to western Iowa. I'd compare it to how ISU fans feel about the larger schools controlling the big 12.

I will never forget the first time I got to meet Terry Brandstad as a kid in the late 80's. My dad asked him why he never visits western Iowa and and asked what he has done to benefit job growth etc in western Iowa instead of DSM and Cedar Rapids. Brandstad looked my dad in the face and said he was in western Iowa just the week before when he was in BOONE. My dad grabbed my hand and we walked away mid sentence.

Re: Very complimentary thread on Shaggybevo about ISU/Jack Trice

Texas fans are cool, I loved the town of Austin and going to a game there. Great town, absolutely awesome college town, and fun people. It was 10x cooler than College Station, and I won't even waste the time comparing Waco to Austin.

Re: Very complimentary thread on Shaggybevo about ISU/Jack Trice

I will never hire you in trade negotiations. You traded away Okoboji or at least a large amount of the good times at the Lakes in your deal. Nebraska now owns Taco House too.

I actually realized this and tried to edit my post to keep Dickinson County in Iowa, for this exact reason. For some reason about half of my posts on ShaggyBevo I can't edit.

I grew up in western Iowa and now live in central Iowa and farm in both places. When comparing small towns I have seen basically no difference in ideology between western and central Iowa. What changes the dynamic is Des Moines and Ames in central Iowa and all the larger factory towns in eastern Iowa. I know Steve King personally and while I don't agree with him on social issues he is a big supporter of agriculture and industry which is good for the state and particularly western Iowa.

One thing to remember about western Iowa is that whether or not you are a politician, most don't view the rest of Iowa as an ally. Most dont want to view themselves closer to Nebraskans but history has shown that state government and the rest of the state of Iowa very rarely does what is in the best interest for western Iowa due to lack of population and lack of votes. There will always be a rogue or seperationist mindset to western Iowa. I'd compare it to how ISU fans feel about the larger schools controlling the big 12.

I will never forget the first time I got to meet Terry Brandstad as a kid in the late 80's. My dad asked him why he never visits western Iowa and and asked what he has done to benefit job growth etc in western Iowa instead of DSM and Cedar Rapids. Brandstad looked my dad in the face and said he was in western Iowa just the week before when he was in BOONE. My dad grabbed my hand and we walked away mid sentence.

This was exactly what I was attempt to get at over on Shaggy.

I grew up in central (almost eastern) Iowa and my family farms in central and eastern Iowa. I have a lot of friends in Western Iowa, and in my anecdotal experience, it seems noticeably more conservative Christian Republican than rural central or eastern Iowa. Nebraska, in my anecdotal experience, is very conservative Christian Republican, outside of Omaha. Thus the assertion that western Iowa has more in common with Nebraska than the rest of Iowa. It's not about western Iowa being "beneath" the rest of the state or more "out in BFE". It's just more like Nebraska in certain ways.

You nail it on the head when you say that Western Iowa feels like it doesn't have the allies in Des Moines that Central and Eastern Iowa do.

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