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them: can you fix the X program? it's not working right.
me: huh. it worked yesterday. what did you change?
them: nothing, if just wont work.
me: ok, let me take a look
(5 minutes later)
me: well, someone went in and changed the config files so it's pointing in the wrong places...
them: oh yeah, i did that.
me: so when you said you didn't change anything...what did you mean?

yep yep yep, pass the bottle.......

\"The fifth horseman of the apocalyse?\"
\"Yeah, he left the group before they hit it big.\"
T. Pratchett

Dude, I'm with ya all the way! L-user-related problems are a majority of the ones I've ever encountered. My prime example was:

SAS 8.0 on an HP box running 11.0. SAS 8.2 won't run a load file that's 200+ megs which is nothing to the system because it's got 3+ gigs. We spend THREE weeks looking based on the up-and-down-on-a-bible guy that says it's unix related. Top shows clean at load time, swapinfo shows no swapping, nothing nada...

Problem: the ICON on their desk was pointing to the wrong version of SAS after they upgraded. I felt like finding a gun...

We the willing, led by the unknowing, have been doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much with so little for so long that we are now qualified to do just about anything with almost nothing.

I deal with situations like this on a daily basis, so I know where you guys are coming from. And just think, I've only been a sys admin for a little over a year - I probably have this to look forward to the rest of my career!

I get client ringing me all the time stating that our Firewall is denying their traffic all the time. More often than not, the server is down or there was an application change.

Why is it that client think that the first point of failure with connectivity problems are Firewalls?

SoggyBottom.

[glowpurple]There were so many fewer questions when the stars where still just the holes to heaven - JJ[/glowpurple] [gloworange]I sure could use a vacation from this bull$hit, three ringed circus side show of freaks. - Tool. [/gloworange]