Tone down the rhetoric just a bit. Tony and I don’t think theological disagreement (no matter how serious) and friendship are mutually exclusive. Indeed, we just had a good conversation on the phone this morning.

So, let’s be careful not to attack people–their character or motives–in this conversation. Instead, let’s stick to the theological ideas and doctrinal views. And at the end of the day, we’ll go have a beer together and talk some more…

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It would be interesting to see a publication of 4 views on “orthodox” doctrines from some of these “characters” so people who are confused could see that some of this stuff is so misunderstood. I get frustrated sometimes when the orthodox/unorthodox terms get thrown around when it merely has to do with preferences over reformed or not reformed, or different views on the atonement or whatever. As I read Brett’s paper, I got a little frustrated that he uses McLaren’s fictional characters as arguments for McLaren’s theology. Why do people continually do this? Anyway, it would be interesting for a broader conversation about “what is considered orthodox.” Tony continues to say over and over, “I hold to the trinity.” But, people keep questioning that. Remarkable.