I saw a AMX 12t kill a tier X USSR TD on the patch single handedly.
I myself have killed undefended Jagdtigers in the tier 5 12t multiple times.
I like that.

AMX12t in 7.5 pacth will be tier 6 and i recon the performance and stats will be diferent.
However this litle tank isnt that bad. Its a suport flanking tank, its awesome at that. and to hunt for arty as well. At least that is what i try to do, never be alone, and suport the other tanks, that are fighting already, usualy it is deadly.

No doesnt work that way. You still have the tank as elite but you will have regardless the box to research for the Lorraine. All xp you have at the time will carry over to the tank so you can start grind for the arty now.

I saw a AMX 12t kill a tier X USSR TD on the patch single handedly.
I myself have killed undefended Jagdtigers in the tier 5 12t multiple times.
I like that.

At the moment you can stay hull to hull (usually side to side) with the TD, this guy is pretty much fucked up, whatever the tank you have (only need to pen armor plate and since "public test" are gold fiesta with premium shells, side armor is no armor.
But, that doesnt mean the tank is good. With my T5 12t I had several time make TD drivers crying a river of curse just by sticking to their side or rear preventing any movment and spamming them with my pewpewpew 75mm SA49

patch kinda destroyed this tank, view range, acceleration and turning are too bad for the tier X games it's throw in now.

And did they make the engine hitbox say, larger than the fricking tank?! If I don't get 1 shot, anything that hits me will get my engine red...

This rant comes right after a match in which i got ace badge, and if even like this this tank is not enjoyable...gg wargaming

Yes i agree tank seems sluggish

Cannon aim is 'twitchy' in sniper mode with disperssion ring 'pinging' open with every 'twitch'.

Two hit kill for most enemy tanks

modules pop easily along with crew (lose a crew member you lose the module associated with it)

If you want to elite this tank you will need to play 400-500 matches in it non premium and I guess 300-400 in premium.

Other than that it is business as normal, not had one match since update where max tank has not bean tier 9+ . It is ok just as long as your team does not expect you to be 'zipping' about like a tier 6 t-50-2.

Guys, 12t with the new gun seems to preform OK compared to its previous tier 5 state. atleast it's a ton of times better than ELC AMX which is complete dissapointment. no-traverse rubbish. and the accuraccy is worser than that of the 12t.

Guys, 12t with the new gun seems to preform OK compared to its previous tier 5 state. atleast it's a ton of times better than ELC AMX which is complete dissapointment. no-traverse rubbish. and the accuraccy is worser than that of the 12t.

65 matches in amx 12t... I would not hold your breath you will need 350-400 matches to elite and you can tell how a tank really performs with under 100 matches

Guys, 12t with the new gun seems to preform OK compared to its previous tier 5 state. atleast it's a ton of times better than ELC AMX which is complete dissapointment. no-traverse rubbish. and the accuraccy is worser than that of the 12t.

Well, comparing the 12t T6 with the 13/75 T6 and there are A LOT of downgrades. Accuracy on the move, hit points, acceleration, agility, cruise speed.

It's simple, with 0.7.5 they took advantage to the tier up to nerf the tanks. ALL new tanks are worse than the previous tank who was at the tier. 12t is worse than 13/75, 13/75 is obviously worse than 13/90 and ELC... It doesnt have even a turret and have worse accuracy than 12t... just a toy to piss of ennemies when sticking to their sides and preventing them from moving especially when allies are firing at them.
Check the stats and you'll see. Even hit points were lowered and sometime by a quite big margin. for example, 13/75 has -100HP than 13/90 and have to do the same job with a 75mm...

Well, comparing the 12t T6 with the 13/75 T6 and there are A LOT of downgrades. Accuracy on the move, hit points, acceleration, agility, cruise speed.

It's simple, with 0.7.5 they took advantage to the tier up to nerf the tanks. ALL new tanks are worse than the previous tank who was at the tier. 12t is worse than 13/75, 13/75 is obviously worse than 13/90 and ELC... It doesnt have even a turret and have worse accuracy than 12t... just a toy to piss of ennemies when sticking to their sides and preventing them from moving especially when allies are firing at them.
Check the stats and you'll see. Even hit points were lowered and sometime by a quite big margin. for example, 13/75 has -100HP than 13/90 and have to do the same job with a 75mm...

I Owe you a +1 for a good post (ran out correcting some neg rep trolls on other threads)