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Is it too early for us to worry about the direction Amare's career seems to be heading? He sure does not look like the dominant PF he was just a short few months ago. I think it's too late for Amare to develop his footwork. He is who he is.

I am a eternal optimist. STAT may have lost a step but he is still better than most PFs around the league on offense. I am hoping he will snap out of this slump soon. Let's face it. This team needs STAT to compete at high level.

Is it too early for us to worry about the direction Amare's career seems to be heading? He sure does not look like the dominant PF he was just a short few months ago. I think it's too late for Amare to develop his footwork. He is who he is.

I am a eternal optimist. STAT may have lost a step but he is still better than most PFs around the league on offense. I am hoping he will snap out of this slump soon. Let's face it. This team needs STAT to compete at high level.

It's never too late to develop better footwork. You might not be as proficient as a guy who's worked on it his whole life, but you can definitely improve it, you just have to specifically work at it.

Doesn't mean I have to turn into a "golly gee willickers guys, let's give STAT a hug" type of dude.

It's one thing to bitch about one game, which I try not to do...I'm talking about a 32 game sample size, and the prospects of what this team will be going forward.

i do not know how you got "golly gee willickers lets give stat a hug" out of waht i wrote but a fan of a team is suppose to support what they have. Stat is obviously not being traded anytime soon so you need to accept that and support him. im tired of seeing "he needs to be traded" 100 times a day cause its not happening and we all know that.

I actually take a lot of heat from some season ticket people when I go to games, cause I abused Jeffries last season, and now this year every time he does something good, I get a "there's your boy Jeffries, can't boo him now, huh?"

i do not know how you got "golly gee willickers lets give stat a hug" out of waht i wrote but a fan of a team is suppose to support what they have. Stat is obviously not being traded anytime soon so you need to accept that and support him. im tired of seeing "he needs to be traded" 100 times a day cause its not happening and we all know that.

Lol @ people telling me what a fanatic of a team is supposed to do. By that definition then we had to love the Isiah era as well. No sir.

It's also a fan forum, the subject is the Knicks, I'm talking about the Knicks...what's the prob?

I don't wanna come off as being on the offensive...but I'm equally as tired of people saying we need to give STAT a chance based off of what he did last season, and to "wait it out." Clearly, we don't have any other choice, but we can still air our frustrations and have constructive conversations on the topic, from both view points. So I'll stop telling you that there are other players who fit into the diminished role of the PF with the current team at a better value, if you stop telling me to wait for Amar'e to turn it around.

Deal? Deal.

Originally Posted by atikiN

Yeah, that's what I figured.

You ignored the rest of the post. Roughly 2 months ago the season started, and Jeffries was NOT playing at the same level. Nowadays, do I enjoy yelling "that's why I used to boo you!!!!" at MSG when he misses a free throw? Abso****inglutely. It's fun, it comes with the territory of being a fan. That has nothing to do with my views on STAT tho. How'd you connect those two? Or did you at all? Was the Jeffries question completely random?

Originally Posted by VeryGundy

That's true but Amare's game is based on his explosiveness around the basket. I truly believe that Lin's continuing development as a PG will help Amare a great deal.

I don't deny that STAT getting a PG should help, we all thought it would help, but the signs haven't consistently been there since Lin emerged. Lin has elevated Tyson's game more so than STAT's. Remember, Amar'e was playing center for us last year, now he has to operate with a true center on the court. Remember what that was like when the "getting old" Shaq went to Pheonix? Blame it on Terry Porter's system, blame it on no chemistry, blame it on whatever. But the last time he had a true 5, it didn't work so well, not he has a true 5, and he seems to be slowing down...and it's not working well.

All I'm saying is, strictly from a FO view...I'm looking to move STAT and try to acquire a cheaper stretch 4. That's it. I'm not overlooking what he did last year, not saying he's washed up, just saying...for the production he's given for 32 games, at his price point, we can do better.

Lol @ people telling me what a fanatic of a team is supposed to do. By that definition then we had to love the Isiah era as well. No sir.

It's also a fan forum, the subject is the Knicks, I'm talking about the Knicks...what's the prob?

I don't wanna come off as being on the offensive...but I'm equally as tired of people saying we need to give STAT a chance based off of what he did last season, and to "wait it out." Clearly, we don't have any other choice, but we can still air our frustrations and have constructive conversations on the topic, from both view points. So I'll stop telling you that there are other players who fit into the diminished role of the PF with the current team at a better value, if you stop telling me to wait for Amar'e to turn it around.

Deal? Deal.

You ignored the rest of the post. Roughly 2 months ago the season started, and Jeffries was NOT playing at the same level. Nowadays, do I enjoy yelling "that's why I used to boo you!!!!" at MSG when he misses a free throw? Abso****inglutely. It's fun, it comes with the territory of being a fan. That has nothing to do with my views on STAT tho. How'd you connect those two? Or did you at all? Was the Jeffries question completely random?

I don't deny that STAT getting a PG should help, we all thought it would help, but the signs haven't consistently been there since Lin emerged. Lin has elevated Tyson's game more so than STAT's. Remember, Amar'e was playing center for us last year, now he has to operate with a true center on the court. Remember what that was like when the "getting old" Shaq went to Pheonix? Blame it on Terry Porter's system, blame it on no chemistry, blame it on whatever. But the last time he had a true 5, it didn't work so well, not he has a true 5, and he seems to be slowing down...and it's not working well.

All I'm saying is, strictly from a FO view...I'm looking to move STAT and try to acquire a cheaper stretch 4. That's it. I'm not overlooking what he did last year, not saying he's washed up, just saying...for the production he's given for 32 games, at his price point, we can do better.

like i said, ive read that one line hundreds of times already and again you saying it for the hundredth time will not make it happen so why repeat yourself? we got it hes making to much you want to trade him for another pf blah blah WE ALL KNOW so why say it and say it and say it? and never did i say a fan cant have an opinion im simply stating my opinion on how fans should support what they hav

its understandable why players who are free agents, like a Kidd, Hill, Cliff Lee, pass on New York despite a chance for lots more money or bigger market exposure. no its not the media crucifying them, they use that as buffer to really mean they dont want to play in front of fair weather fans like the majority of Knicks fans here. its one thing to throw hate at a bench player who contributes nothing but do that to the captain of the team who last year was the first to kick start what we have now, all should be ashamed. no wonder why LeBron passed coming here, heck if he did what he did with Miami last year and brought us to the Finals only to lose in Dallas, almost all of you wold have wanted him traded after one season. for fans who havent been anywhere near a title in 40 years, some of you act like divas entitled to one every year like Lakers fans.

its understandable why players who are free agents, like a Kidd, Hill, Cliff Lee, pass on New York despite a chance for lots more money or bigger market exposure. no its not the media crucifying them, they use that as buffer to really mean they dont want to play in front of fair weather fans like the majority of Knicks fans here. its one thing to throw hate at a bench player who contributes nothing but do that to the captain of the team who last year was the first to kick start what we have now, all should be ashamed. no wonder why LeBron passed coming here, heck if he did what he did with Miami last year and brought us to the Finals only to lose in Dallas, almost all of you wold have wanted him traded after one season. for fans who havent been anywhere near a title in 40 years, some of you act like divas entitled to one every year like Lakers fans.

Originally Posted by quiggle

hes diminished, i mean how many times have we seen him take a jump shot this season that either a) totally missed the rim and sailed to the other side b) hit the backboard next to the rim? 90% of being elite player is mental, its not physical its mental and he shows he is weak and scared...

Originally Posted by quiggle

some time right, heck i probably am the only person here who was dumb enough to blow $3k on one of his worn jerseys but THANKS GOODNESS I sold it off and its rotting away at someone elses home now. honestly i dont want to see the Knicks win a title as long as he is on the team, someone who doesnt hustle and appreciate should never be given the glory of a championship

Originally Posted by quiggle

what about Greg Oden for Statosphere? thats how bad we shold want him gone

Originally Posted by quiggle

and those who said that how can he be so wonderful last year and putrid this year its because hes moved careers, he got his 100 million and New York cred to start working on fashion food and other metrosexual venues. he only hustle last year to establish himself on the New York scene. now he got it he can live without a championship in NBA because he already has a bronze medal from Olympics. if he does get one, great let some other bust butt for it. he done here, got his money like i said all alone he is the same as LeBron only good thing about leBron is he didnt cost us 100 mil. JR Reid put more heart and effort in Knicks uniform than this phony ever will.

not really because you have to admit that I was one of the few here who saw this early on and didnt wait for him to play like now to crumble to call him out. now who i direct this to is those who gave me negative rep after negative rep after negative rep for all I said about Renaissance Man months ago and its the very same peeps who now are hating on him to. thats weak if your going to support him then and dessert him now because he plays bad. so if he plays good again you go back to loving him? who wants fans like this at least like you go play in Kansas City they will give the love win or lose

its understandable why players who are free agents, like a Kidd, Hill, Cliff Lee, pass on New York despite a chance for lots more money or bigger market exposure. no its not the media crucifying them, they use that as buffer to really mean they dont want to play in front of fair weather fans like the majority of Knicks fans here. its one thing to throw hate at a bench player who contributes nothing but do that to the captain of the team who last year was the first to kick start what we have now, all should be ashamed. no wonder why LeBron passed coming here, heck if he did what he did with Miami last year and brought us to the Finals only to lose in Dallas, almost all of you wold have wanted him traded after one season. for fans who havent been anywhere near a title in 40 years, some of you act like divas entitled to one every year like Lakers fans.

We will never know why some of the superstars didn't want to play in New York but I disagree that New York fanbase is made of mostly bandwagoners. LeBron didn't choose Miami because he felt fans in Miami were less fair-weathered than New York. He chose Miami because he was able to hook up with Wade and Bosh.

New York is the biggest media market in the world. Jeremy Lin would not have been the media darling if he was doing the Linsanity in Houston. But if you screw up, New York is the last place you want to be. IMO, those who passed up the opportunity to show off their talents on the biggest stage in the sporting world are nothing more than chokers. I have little respect for them.

We will never know why some of the superstars didn't want to play in New York but I disagree that New York fanbase is made of mostly bandwagoners. LeBron didn't choose Miami because he felt fans in Miami were less fair-weathered than New York. He chose Miami because he was able to hook up with Wade and Bosh.

New York is the biggest media market in the world. Jeremy Lin would not have been the media darling if he was doing the Linsanity in Houston. But if you screw up, New York is the last place you want to be. IMO, those who passed up the opportunity to show off their talents on the biggest stage in the sporting world are nothing more than chokers. I have little respect for them.

Trust me on a day to day basis i have seen so many bandwagons jumped off of in new york. One thing NY fans don't have is patience, we want bragging rights for something and if that means being a Miami Heat fan just to say my fave team won a championship happens alot.