At Cambrian?. The fossil record is the complete opposite of? what was predicted. Do you realize virtually every prediction evolution has made has been falsified?

Gould said the Cambrian explosion went from the "many phylum to the few" the OPPOSITE of what was predicted. when your falsified you? guys just quietly change the theories. how nice

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HGT is just a reason to explain away?? the lack of evidence the original theory made. That we should see the few evolving into the many. and closely related species should have more similarities than distantly related species. FALSIFIED.

So HGT to the rescue. Just as P.E. did for sudden appearance and stasis

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The atheist can never open that door of I.D. even when he practices the very thing he says IS NOT SCIENCE. it scares him

--------------I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gaugerís work, the evo mat narrative cannot standGordon Mullings

At Cambrian?. The fossil record is the complete opposite of? what was predicted. Do you realize virtually every prediction evolution has made has been falsified?

Gould said the Cambrian explosion went from the "many phylum to the few" the OPPOSITE of what was predicted. when your falsified you? guys just quietly change the theories. how nice

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HGT is just a reason to explain away?? the lack of evidence the original theory made. That we should see the few evolving into the many. and closely related species should have more similarities than distantly related species. FALSIFIED.

So HGT to the rescue. Just as P.E. did for sudden appearance and stasis

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The atheist can never open that door of I.D. even when he practices the very thing he says IS NOT SCIENCE. it scares him

Shorter toobsucker:

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ID is everything! Evolution is wrong! Atheists are dummydoodyheads!!!!

Yeah, that's just an analogy. It might or might not help somebody just learning the subject, but doesn't hold up too well when going into technical details.

I'd love see this moron conjugate an ERV.

Maybe he could describe where the punctuation is.

I'm not sure that would be a good idea. †ERV is not a young woman to trifle with.

I know, isn't she the epic bomb?

Insert raunchy conjugation pun here.

--------------"But it's disturbing to think someone actually thinks creationism -- having put it's hand on the hot stove every day for the last 400 years -- will get a different result tomorrow." -- midwifetoad

All coded languages are observed to originate from an intelligence, no examples to the contrary can be given

This statement is accurate as far as it goes, but it doesn't go far enough. All that need be done is add one word, like so:All coded languages are observed to originate from a human intelligence, no examples to the contrary can be givenI wonder why ID-pushers always leave out that one word?

If you want to see TARD in its native form, YouTube is the place to be

I've invited another person to this thread. They go by the username "karamarouge" and they, and these are there words:"Will not defend ID as destroying one argument doesn't promote the other" (paraphrase)"If ur theory is untestable, unfalsifiable & unobservable, it isnt science. It is RELIGION." (actual quote)

All coded languages are observed to originate from an intelligence, no examples to the contrary can be given

This statement is accurate as far as it goes, but it doesn't go far enough. All that need be done is add one word, like so:All coded languages are observed to originate from a human intelligence, no examples to the contrary can be givenI wonder why ID-pushers always leave out that one word?

Or ... DNA is an example of a coded language that didn't originate from intelligence.

You know, I've been thinking about this and I can come up with dozens of examples of coded language without intelligence.

First, what is language? In this case, I mean it to be the method of transmitting information from one individual to another individual by a set of rules and processes understand by both parties to convey certain information (maybe Arden can stick his $0.02 in here).

We obviously cannot use 'spoken' or 'written' for language because that would eliminate DNA.

With that being said, the following are all examples of language developed by non-sentient creatures:1) bees' wiggle dance (used to tell other bees where the flowers are)2) marmots' and similar species' alarm calls3) wolves' howling, barking and scent marks4) chemical signals emitted by corals

Etc. etc. etc.

Well, so much for that.

--------------Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

Then there's also the minor detail that an evolving gene pool has at least two of the attributes we associate with intelligence - it tries different variations, even if at random, and it keeps records of what produced the more successful of those variations.

After I called him out on Evolution is a religion, even the courts figured it is not but ID is, this was his retort"

"Wait one second!!! Is an evolutionist citing the rules of the? courts that enslaved the blackman, declaring him three fifth a person? Oh wait, darwin and his cronies did argue that the black man was closer to the apes!

Same courts that treated women as second class citizens? And convicted Mr Scopes of the scopes monkey trial himself?

You are citing the rulings of a court because according to you this is where scientific matters are decided and not in a school or lab? REally?"

All coded languages are observed to originate from an intelligence, no examples to the contrary can be given

This statement is accurate as far as it goes, but it doesn't go far enough. All that need be done is add one word, like so:All coded languages are observed to originate from a human intelligence, no examples to the contrary can be givenI wonder why ID-pushers always leave out that one word?

I must quibble - Are not dog barks and growls, and bird squawks and songs, deliberate coded language? Certainly monkey hoots and screams are and I doubt anyone would argue that the sounds bonobos, chimpanzees, and orangutans make aren't intended coded language. And for an even more obvious example, what are the squeaks and grunts and hums of whales if not coded language?

I submit that many organisms engage in coded language, however I would argue that DNA isn't a *deliberate* coded language or even really a language per se. It is a code to be sure, but saying it is a language is really no different than saying that electrons in a piece of copper are a language.

--------------we IDists rule in design for the flagellum and cilium largely because they do look designed. †Bilbo

The only reason you reject Thor is because, like a cushion, you bear the imprint of the biggest arse that sat on you. Louis

After I called him out on Evolution is a religion, even the courts figured it is not but ID is, this was his retort"

"Wait one second!!! Is an evolutionist citing the rules of the? courts that enslaved the blackman, declaring him three fifth a person? Oh wait, darwin and his cronies did argue that the black man was closer to the apes!

Same courts that treated women as second class citizens? And convicted Mr Scopes of the scopes monkey trial himself?

You are citing the rulings of a court because according to you this is where scientific matters are decided and not in a school or lab? REally?"

This is going to be fun

Have you showed this moron Father of Modern Young Earth Creationism George McCready Price's little poem?

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The poor little fellow who went to the south †Got lost in the forests dank;His skin grew black, as the fierce sun beatAnd scorched his hair with its tropic heat, †And his mind became a blank.

After I called him out on Evolution is a religion, even the courts figured it is not but ID is, this was his retort"

"Wait one second!!! Is an evolutionist citing the rules of the? courts that enslaved the blackman, declaring him three fifth a person? Oh wait, darwin and his cronies did argue that the black man was closer to the apes!

Same courts that treated women as second class citizens? And convicted Mr Scopes of the scopes monkey trial himself?

You are citing the rulings of a court because according to you this is where scientific matters are decided and not in a school or lab? REally?"

This is going to be fun

Have you showed this moron Father of Modern Young Earth Creationism George McCready Price's little poem?

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The poor little fellow who went to the south †Got lost in the forests dank;His skin grew black, as the fierce sun beatAnd scorched his hair with its tropic heat, †And his mind became a blank.

After I called him out on Evolution is a religion, even the courts figured it is not but ID is, this was his retort"

"Wait one second!!! Is an evolutionist citing the rules of the? courts that enslaved the blackman, declaring him three fifth a person? Oh wait, darwin and his cronies did argue that the black man was closer to the apes!

Same courts that treated women as second class citizens? And convicted Mr Scopes of the scopes monkey trial himself?

You are citing the rulings of a court because according to you this is where scientific matters are decided and not in a school or lab? REally?"

This is going to be fun

Have you showed this moron Father of Modern Young Earth Creationism George McCready Price's little poem?

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The poor little fellow who went to the south †Got lost in the forests dank;His skin grew black, as the fierce sun beatAnd scorched his hair with its tropic heat, †And his mind became a blank.

I submit that many organisms engage in coded language, however I would argue that DNA isn't a *deliberate* coded language or even really a language per se. It is a code to be sure, but saying it is a language is †really no different than saying that electrons in a piece of copper are a language.

My response to the "DNA is a language" issue is to ask whoever is making the claim to translate some DNA into English. After all, one of the features of a true language is that it can be translated from one language to another.

If they cannot do that then the next step is to point out that then perhaps "Language" is not the right word....

--------------I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gaugerís work, the evo mat narrative cannot standGordon Mullings