I don't see any problem at all whatsoever with this cardio MMA class as presented, or with the concept in general. In fact, part of the reason I was able to kickbox better than other beginners when I started serious training was my cardio kickboxing classes taught by actual competitive kickboxers. Who cares where you learned to wrap your hands, throw a jab, or shuffle? It's all the same moves.

Likewise, if you learn how to uppah, sprawl, etc., from a fitness MMA class, that could allow some people who want to further develop interest to have some sort of base to go upon.

Did you manage to speak with him yet? I'm very interested to find out whether this is an earnest attempt to introduce people to MMA while getting them fit and removing the possibility of injury, or whether it's just the latest thing to attach to a fitness course.

on a vaguely related note... I work with a guy who's a fencing instructor. He renamed his club (used to be the whatever fencing club, now it's the School of Defence) and now he doesn't teach normal fencing... he now teaches FULL-CONTACT fencing... his club now has a waiting list and he's essentially still teaching the same stuff.

Did you manage to speak with him yet? I'm very interested to find out whether this is an earnest attempt to introduce people to MMA while getting them fit and removing the possibility of injury, or whether it's just the latest thing to attach to a fitness course.

on a vaguely related note... I work with a guy who's a fencing instructor. He renamed his club (used to be the whatever fencing club, now it's the School of Defence) and now he doesn't teach normal fencing... he now teaches FULL-CONTACT fencing... his club now has a waiting list and he's essentially still teaching the same stuff.

is a white belt in BJJ ( as far as I know I haven't talked to him face to face in a few months he could have magicaly grown a blue or purple or something )

did some full contact karate and TKD circuts

has a pretty decent stand up

has some judo background

certified to teach Hapkido

very athletic

will throw hands outside of the McDojang as long as the students have a back up teacher in case he is injured .

As far as a TKD or Hapkido Instructor goes ... thats a good resume .

Cardio Boxing ( now TURBO KICKS ! ) :

He never called it kickboxing , never showed them pad drills ( well they used pads but he wasn't using them to show proper fighting technique ) , didn't have anyone doing MT conditioning . Never claimed it showed you how to kick ass . I didn't have a problem with it , still don't even under it's new stupid name .

Lets look at that add again now .

What I am asking is it ok to teach "training techniques" of an art you are not qualified to teach ? Even under the heading of "Fitness Programs"

As a TKD place who's only compition in town is a BJJ , JKD gym who actually trains people for MMA ... I just fail to see how this is way to build interest in the sport .

Originally Posted by ghost55

Violence is pretty uncommon in clubs in this area, and the dude didn't seem particularly hostile up until the moment he slapped me.

“I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out.”
BILL HICKS,
1961-1994

What I am asking is it ok to teach "training techniques" of an art you are not qualified to teach ? Even under the heading of "Fitness Programs"

Personally, I'd ask him whether he's teaching MMA (as it is widely regarded) for fitness, or a mixture of martial arts for fitness... there's an obvious difference there that we can spot, but the average Joe/Jane might think they're training in legit MMA.

I can see the advantage of adding some stuff to cardio kickboxing; scrambling drills from grappling arts would certainly improve fitness, along with flexibility and conditioning drills.
I can't see how any technical aspect of BJJ or judo (I'd count breakfalls as conditioning) that would translate as fitness, so his level of proficiency/qualification in those arts might not actually cause him any concern.