Originally Posted by BengaliPagol
I think if Mushfiq or even Shakib marries an asian or white lady then the Bangali community would be break the trend of thinking that Bangali's have to marry other Bangalis.

Well I can see shakib marrying a non Bangali but Mushfiq? no way. He doesn't even seem to be able to go out with a girl without his father's permission it seems. His father has to look for a bride for him and give ads on newspaper.

Originally Posted by maysun
Best time to tie the knot. Before any further scrutinization of his captaincy, why not tie the knot now?

Might be cynical but you are probably right, couple more failures and his status as a cricketer will diminish (whatever is left) greatly.. might as well get married soon or won't have any good choices left who are under 5 feet 3...

Yes mominul at 5 and mushy at 6, we've tried mushy higher up and he's always proven better down the order, if he scores mountains of runs got awhile at 6 then we can think about moving him up again but for now we need to keep him lower down.

I dont know why he decided to come ahead of the debutant when team was in a good position. And he isnt scoring tons of runs either. He should have given mominul a bat, seemed kind of selfish to me. His position is at number 7 (in both Tests and ODIs) period, He can do those late order hitting. Mahmudullah should bat at 6, I consider him better than Mushfiq

^I think he did the right thing. He stayed not out and finished the game with Nayeem rather than taking chances with Shourobh.

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Shourobh is a very decent player but I think he's being a bit overhyped here. I think he'll have a harder time than Bijoy adjusting to international cricket, and will take more time becoming the consistent performer he may become. He's definitely better than Rocky from what I've seen but that really isn't saying much.

I'm not sure how much time he'll have to do that once Shakib returns and bats at number 3 or 4. If Nayeem manages to rotate the strike with ease against quality attack in challenging conditions, something I feel he's capable of doing once relaxed, he'll fit nicely into the other slot.

That leaves 6 and 7 for Shourobh. Unless Mushfiq fails over a long period of time, 6 won't happen anytime soon. Riyad takes time to settle in but once he does, he can finish with the best of them. Shourobh also takes time to settle in, so unless we have an extraordinarily superior international cricketer in him, it would be better to go with the more experienced Riyad IMO.

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Originally Posted by Sohel
Shourobh is a very decent player but I think he's being a bit overhyped here. I think he'll have a harder time than Bijoy adjusting to international cricket, and will take more time becoming the consistent performer he may become. He's definitely better than Rocky from what I've seen but that really isn't saying much.

I'm not sure how much time he'll have to do that once Shakib returns and bats at number 3 or 4. If Nayeem manages to rotate the strike with ease against quality attack in challenging conditions, something I feel he's capable of doing once relaxed, he'll fit nicely into the other slot.

That leaves 6 and 7 for Shourobh. Unless Mushfiq fails over a long period of time, 6 won't happen anytime soon. Riyad takes time to settle in but once he does, he can finish with the best of them. Shourobh also takes time to settle in, so unless we have an extraordinarily superior international cricketer in him, it would be better to go with the more experienced Riyad IMO.

The problem with Mominul is that the middle order department is pretty much settled. Once Shakib comes back, most probably Mominul will have to take the fall since Riyad and Mushy are captain and VC. Then Nasir obviously is needed. The weak link is Naeem but he's done pretty well so far. So tough ask for Mominul once Shakib comes back.

If he was a #7 batsman it would be a different story since we lack big hitters down the order but Mominul is more of a #4-6 batsman. It's good though that we have competition in the middle order.

^Very true. Shourobh has to be given the chance to do significantly better than Nayeem to make it at this point. Nayeem must continue to get better in order to keep him out.

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^Jury's still out Naeem. Yesterday during a chase of 200, he obviously did the job but his big test is how he does if the target is 250 or higher. We saw how much he struggled last year against the WI when we were chasing 300. If he can rotate the strike more often so that he doesn't get bogged down in the middle overs, then he'll be an asset, if not he'll be a liability. Naeem should feel the pressure though and remember Mominul could take his spot if Naeem fails to sustain his consistency.

Originally Posted by Rifat_02
I dont know why he decided to come ahead of the debutant when team was in a good position. And he isnt scoring tons of runs either. He should have given mominul a bat, seemed kind of selfish to me. His position is at number 7 (in both Tests and ODIs) period, He can do those late order hitting. Mahmudullah should bat at 6, I consider him better than Mushfiq

Mushy coming ahead was the right call. He needed to get some run under his belt. He has been struggling for a while. Although he didn't score much, but he had a pretty good partnership going with Nayeem and saw the innings through. This should give him a little more.confidence. In this series Mushy's batting is a much bigger concern for us than Mominul's batting, so in that sense it was the right call.

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Originally Posted by Tiger444
^Jury's still out Naeem. Yesterday during a chase of 200, he obviously did the job but his big test is how he does if the target is 250 or higher. We saw how much he struggled last year against the WI when we were chasing 300. If he can rotate the strike more often so that he doesn't get bogged down in the middle overs, then he'll be an asset, if not he'll be a liability. Naeem should feel the pressure though and remember Mominul could take his spot if Naeem fails to sustain his consistency.

Couldn't agree more with everything you said.

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Originally Posted by Tiger444
^Jury's still out Naeem. Yesterday during a chase of 200, he obviously did the job but his big test is how he does if the target is 250 or higher. We saw how much he struggled last year against the WI when we were chasing 300. If he can rotate the strike more often so that he doesn't get bogged down in the middle overs, then he'll be an asset, if not he'll be a liability. Naeem should feel the pressure though and remember Mominul could take his spot if Naeem fails to sustain his consistency.

Remember, we still had about 10 overs left for the match yesterday.... So I think, we don't need to do anything radically different than what we have done yesterday, to chase a target upto 300. We only need the guys coming @ 6/7/8 to be able to score @ a bit healthier...or start stepping up the RR after 35 overs onwards... And if Tamim stays longer, then the others need to do the same thing that they did yesterday... To chase down 300+

Originally Posted by Tiger444
The problem with Mominul is that the middle order department is pretty much settled. Once Shakib comes back, most probably Mominul will have to take the fall since Riyad and Mushy are captain and VC. Then Nasir obviously is needed. The weak link is Naeem but he's done pretty well so far. So tough ask for Mominul once Shakib comes back.

If he was a #7 batsman it would be a different story since we lack big hitters down the order but Mominul is more of a #4-6 batsman. It's good though that we have competition in the middle order.

As a specialist batsman #7 isn't his place. But when Shakib will come back, I think he won't have a place in the team.

Originally Posted by BANFAN
Remember, we still had about 10 overs left for the match yesterday.... So I think, we don't need to do anything radically different than what we have done yesterday, to chase a target upto 300. We only need the guys coming @ 6/7/8 to be able to score @ a bit healthier...or start stepping up the RR after 35 overs onwards... And if Tamim stays longer, then the others need to do the same thing that they did yesterday... To chase down 300+

Banfan bhai, while our 6/7 batsmen at important, our 1-4 batsmen also have to set the tone. If Naeem plays the way he did the 1st match while he chase a big target, we'll most likely lose. He had 50 dot balls out of the 79 he played which is a 62% dot ball percentage.

Obviously, you have to also watch the match to completely understand what happened during the match and its was quite clear that Naeem could've easily placed the ball in to the gaps and pick up the ones. Instead, he was blocking most of the deliveries with a dead bat. Those are runs he could've easily had. He would've ended up with a score that would be much more sufficient without taking much risk. That's still the big knock I have on Naeem for ODI's and that's why I'm far from being sold on him. I know Tamim also plays a lot of dot balls as well which is something he needs to work on but when he bats, there are far less open spaces in the field compared to when the middle order batsmen bat. On top of that, Tamim can make his SR up with his boundary hitting ability which I don't see Naeem doing.

You can't blame Nayeem for playing slowly. It was his first game back after a while and we were only chasing 199. It's good that he got the best out of the situation and picked up a 50. That will give him some confidence, and also selectors faith in him.

Nayeem is a very capable batsman. And if he is batting at 3 after opener gets out he might be batting with Tamim, runrate won't be an issue with Tamim on the other side. But off course will have to start picking those singles quicker. And if Tamim gets out than he will be batting with Shakib. Again run rate won't be an issue. On days Tamim, Mushy, Shakib clicks we will be good with Nayeem playing the anchor role and holding wicket on one side. But he will need to be able to play more aggressively when those guys around him fail. It will take some time. But we'll see where this goes. I think we have a much better chance with Nayeem at 3 than morons like Junaid or SN.

Originally Posted by Ajfar
You can't blame Nayeem for playing slowly. It was his first game back after a while and we were only chasing 199. It's good that he got the best out of the situation and picked up a 50. That will give him some confidence, and also selectors faith in him.

Nayeem is a very capable batsman. And if he is batting at 3 after opener gets out he might be batting with Tamim, runrate won't be an issue with Tamim on the other side. But off course will have to start picking those singles quicker. And if Tamim gets out than he will be batting with Shakib. Again run rate won't be an issue. On days Tamim, Mushy, Shakib clicks we will be good with Nayeem playing the anchor role and holding wicket on one side. But he will need to be able to play more aggressively when those guys around him fail. It will take some time. But we'll see where this goes. I think we have a much better chance with Nayeem at 3 than morons like Junaid or SN.

I agree with you Ajfar. I think Naeems a capable batsman as well. Since we chased a score of 200 yesterday, Naeem didn't have to play quickly. I'm just worried whether he can play quicker if the target is bigger or if we need to set a big total. I know he has the ability and the smarts, but he needs to be more sufficient in scoring his runs. I understand it was his come back in ODI's after a while, so he wanted to get some runs under his belt. Hope he can continue to improve on his performances.