...The stalled Bill would have sanctioned the communist Democratic Republic of Vietnam (DRV) against further racially based sterilization, terrrorism and genocide of the Christain hilltribe Degar peoples living in the Central Highlands region of the country.

...Why is Senator KERRY stalling this vital human rights legislation?

...The Degar tribes people, commonly known to westerners as the -MONTAGNARDS-, are ethnically unrelated to the Vietnamese. The Central Highlands region was never a traditional part of Vietnam. The region has been the home of the Degar tribes for at least a ..1,000.. years.

...With HR-2833 stalled by JOHN KERRY of Massachussetts, the DRV is free to continue without restriction its ethinic cleansing of the Degar Christains in the Central Highlands region in an attempt to gain control of the Degar land and resources.

...As recently as 1970 there were an estimated ..3,000,000.. Montagnards in various tribes living in the region but as a result of Vietnam's ongoing compaign of ethnic terror and extermination, the total population of Montagnards is now ...BELOW 650,000...!!!

...Nearly two thirds of the Montagnards have died in only 32 years, including more than half the male population. This is undisguised genocide.

...This is why HR-2833 was passed without delay through the House of Representatives last summer by a margin of 411 to 1 to bring an immediate halt to this tragic situation. The Bill was then rushed to the Senate where immediate passage was expected due to the urgency of the current situation.

...Then JOHN KERRY entered the picture and people kept dying.

...For over 7 months now, since early September 2001 Senator JOHN KERRY of Massachussetts has deliberately thwarted all attempts to bring HR-2833 to the floor for a vote.

...KERRY deliberate sabotage of the most urgent human rights legislation since the 1950's has caused grave concern in the human rights community, especially because there is no explanation for his position and all attempts to contact the Senator on this issue have been ignored by his office.

...JOHN KERRY needs to do some explaining before this gets worse.

...The Daily Catholic is listing JOHN KERRY as a .."HEROD's HERO".. for having the second worst human rights record in the US Congress.

...A Montagnard source informed us it was common knowledge in the mid-1970's Degar community that there were serious business dealings involving KERRY and the late Secretary of Commerce RON BROWN with the new incoming communist DRV government. Windfall profits of more than ..$500,000.. each for both RON BROWN and JOHN KERRY were reported by this source. A source outside the Degar community relates that KERRY has proposed future business dealings with the communist Democratic Republic of Vietnam.

...Several sources within the US military recall how JOHN KERRY was given a questionable medal for heroism for shooting a man who was already dead or dying in exchange for KERRY's recommending a paper medal in return for another Navy 'hero' who was anxious to get a decoration before his tour was over.

...Has Senator JOHN KERRY been pressured by the DRV to kill or stall Bill HR-2833 in exchange for silence and future favors? Is this why Senator KERRY is so eager to grant Most Favored Nation (MFN) trade status for the DRV?

...KERRY's inaction on HR-2833 allows the DRV's genocide and sterilization programs in the Central Highlands region to continue today. Is Senator KERRY going to stall HR-2833 until the region is under complete control of the Vietnamese, all the Degar Montagnard peoples driven out or killed, before KERRY allows the Vietnam Human Rights onto the Senate floor for a vote?

...The Genocide being forced upon the Christian Degar Tribes People of the Central Highlands in a once Free South Vietnam by the controlling Communist Vietnamese ...with Sen. JOHN KERRY (D-MA) support...

...is discussed today during the 1st hour of Former Congressman BOB DORNAN's National Talk Radio Show heard Live on.. www.TalkRadioNetwork.com ..and Live/tape-delayed in 42 different Radio Markets around the country.

...So. California will be hearing BOB DORNAN tonight @ 7-9pm Pacific Time on KPLS 830 AM ..Radio on the Right'..

Very interesting, Ronnie. Recently, I saw a History Channel program about the Montagnards, also other tribal people who fought along with the Green Berets. They were described as extremely loyal to the Green Berets and would not agree to fight alongside anyone else. Because of the language barrier, a type of sign language was developed among them. They are described as anti-Communist, and are now being persecuted.

Why Kerry would take such an attitude against these people (some remain there who did in fact fight alongside our troops), God only knows; but then, why God created Kerry is beyond me.

...During the Vietnam War JOHH KERRY was a Partner of our Communist Vietnamese Enemy who he wanted to win the Vietnam War.

...There's been NO CHANGE SINCE as Sen. JOHN KERRY rushed to the Los Angeles International Airport to recieve a much needed $10,000 Campaign Gift from China Army Spy JOHN HUANG in the closing days of his last Senatorial Campaign to help pay for a last minute TV Media Blitz to take him over the top.

...To see the Plei Me Special Forces Montagnard Camp of 1965 that was then fighting invading North Vietnam Communist Army Regulars in the Central Highlands on the 1st Day of the Battle of IA DRANG-1965 go to the:

I recently reread Dr. Tom Dooley's historic book Deliver Us From Evil which tells of his time, immediately after the 1954 accords ended the French-Indochina war, running the refugee camp at Haiphong through which some 600,000 North Vietnamese passed trying to escape to the south. From the very beginning North Vietnam persecuted Catholics, and Dooley describes some of this in sickening detail - school children bound and mutilated by having chopsticks shoved into their ears so that they could no longer listen to religious teachings, priests hung upside-down and beaten almost to death with bamboo sticks, etc. Perhaps allowing this bill to pass is too threatening to the likes of Kerry because it might bring back to the public some reminder of how evil the Communist Vietnamese really were, and help point up just how bass and corrupt he and his fellow-traveler "anti-war" ilk really are......

I've been to Pleiku and Kontum, back in the war years. In Kontum, Dr Pat Smith ran a hospital for the "Yards", and you can't imagine anything so primitive. There were beds, probably queen-sized by our standards, and as many as 5, maybe more, women with their just-born babies on each bed. The mattresses were bare, terribly stained, but it was the best Dr Smith could do, since she rec'd so little support, and it was a luxury to the women. What is considered poor in our country, is extreme wealth to the VN tribal people.

I now remember about Kerry getting the money from Huang. Seems old bloodhound-faced Kerry will do about anything for money, incl marriage and campaign.

...I remember newly installed President JFK calling Dr. TOM DOOLEY an American Hero in early 1961 for helping the peoples of the former French Indo-China stand up to invading Communism as JFK looked forward himself to an uncertain future there.

Perhaps allowing this bill to pass is too threatening to the likes of Kerry because it might bring back to the public some reminder of how evil the Communist Vietnamese really were, and help point up just how bass and corrupt he and his fellow-traveler "anti-war" ilk really are......

And we don't want to make "Communist" an ugly word, since the Communist Chinese are so helpful to Ambitious Democrats. Just what do the Chinese want from our Democrats anyway???

I wish I could say something positive about this. I think ultimately there may also be land and coffee tied up in this business. The communists have long seen the tourism value of their ethnic "hill tribes". And I can't help but wonder why christianity should pose such a problem "westward" as these days the old "Redball" is dotted unabashedly with Christian churches at least from Quang Ngai well up into the north toward Vinh.

Fear of propoganda may be a factor too, where groups related to US Special Forces veterans have aimed powerful radio transmitters broadcasting Christian programming from the Philippenes specifically directed at Montangard groups. Though Nong Duc Manh came to the Party General Secretaryship as a "reformer", it really seems sad that he can't see that it would benefit Vietnam so much more to put that philosophy into practice.

Time to visit that website. The "best of the best" may have a little to say to Kerry.

The History Channel program also told that most of the Montagnards who came to the States settled near Ft Bragg. If only we could count on the Afghanis to be as loyal, we'd have the remaining alQuaeda by the short ones in a hurry.

Dooley was a remarkable person...I recall seeing him on TV a number of times during his visits back to the US from southeast asia...he was actually attempting to build support for his medical mission in Vietnam and Laos, but he also talked of many of the atrocities he had seen committed against the people by the various communist regimes in the region...he more than any other single person may have been responsible for alerting the country to what was going on in Vietnam and shaping opinions about it...those who find it so easy to dismiss our involvement there as misguided or immoral should be required to read some of Dooley's books - I don't think any civilized nation could have walked away from the savagery he described...

...How very well shared about Dr. TOM DOOLEY's influence on JFK's formed perspective of the Evilness of the S.E. Asian Communists' attacks on Human Beings 40 years ago ...soon to be exhibited BIG TIME in The Killing Fields of Cambodia.

...With nearly 3,000,000 Christain Degars losing their lives in the Central Highlands of a once Free South Vietnam after the Communists from the North took control 27 years ago...

...Senator KERRY's (D) Office finally returned my call of weeks ago.

...A very nice sounding ..KATE RHUDY..

...@ 202 224-2742...

...stated to me that the reason Senator KERRY (D) will continue holding up HR-2833 from going to the Senate Floor for a vote to Sanction Communist Vietnam for the Death of the Degar, with Senator McCAIN (R) in complete agreement with him, is because "Engagement" with Communist Vietnam is better for the people of Vietnam in the long run.

...I asked her how the Communist Vietnamese eliminating nearly 3,000,000 Christain Degars is "Better" for them...?

...Would Senator KERRY (D) be acting the same way about this if it were all happening to Christains in Central California, rather than Central South Vietnam...?

...Why don't we let the ..KERRY/McCAIN.. Team know just how we feel about this "Little" Number of theirs...???

This is kinda hard to figure. A couple of years ago there were American and French tourists ranging all over these areas, as the SRV government was touting its "Hill Tribes" as obviously lucrative to that industry.

I still sense the real issue is coffee, as these are some of the best growing regions in the country and region, and the ethnic Vietnamese (and commie government) want as much of that trade as they can get.

But all of the world's commie states have also publically declared their support for their "revolutionary" brethren in the so-called palestinian intifada too, and there could be some reflections of that in this.

...stated to me that the reason Senator KERRY (D) will continue holding up HR-2833 from going to the Senate Floor for a vote to Sanction Communist Vietnam for the Death of the Degar, with Senator McCAIN (R) in complete agreement with him, is because "Engagement" with Communist Vietnam is better for the people of Vietnam in the long run... ...Would Senator KERRY (D) be acting the same way about this if it were all happening to Christains in Central California, rather than Central South Vietnam...?

Thanks for the ping. At least the Senators are honest, whats the death of a few rustic Christians when theres money to be made.

Re your second point, let the Senators know how many Christians in California are we talking about, whats the racial composition, and who is donating to who and what are the contributions looking forward, and theyll get back to you.

CA is a long way from Mass, close to Az, so the "Senator Vets" may split on that one.

This is kinda hard to figure. A couple of years ago there were American and French tourists ranging all over these areas, as the SRV government was touting its "Hill Tribes" as obviously lucrative to that industry.

I have an acquaintance involved with tourism to the "hill tribes" in Thailand, Hmong I think, though they import them from other areas, Cambodia I think. Not all that lucrative, not nearly enough to bid on a Senator.

...I remember newly installed President JFK calling Dr. TOM DOOLEY an American Hero in early 1961 for helping the peoples of the former French Indo-China stand up to invading Communism as JFK looked forward himself to an uncertain future there.

Has anyone posting here actually read the text of this bill? Well golly, if we passed one of these against the People's Republic of China, we will do away with communism there. I never realized a piece of do nothing legislation could be so powerful.

Has anyone posting here actually read the text of this bill? Well golly, if we passed one of these against the People's Republic of China, we will do away with communism there. I never realized a piece of do nothing legislation could be so powerful.

... "Engagement" with Communist Vietnam is better for the people of Vietnam in the long run...thanks for the ping - e-mailed both Mc and Kerry reminding them that the senate had betrayed the Vietnamese people once by refusing to fund our commitment to assist them when the communists violated the Paris accords, and not to make the same mistake again by at least passing 2833. These two were probably first in line to endorse the sanctions against South Africa to defeat apartheid, but suddenly feel it's too important to stay "engaged" in VN to even express outrage over what 's happening there - hypocrits......

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