Regardless of the knee (water under the bridge at this point, seriously), Bailiff would be an outstanding brand ambassador for Texas State - something we seriously lack. He's got my vote for AD.

He's not bad, but if we're voting on things, how come no one is on the Don Coryell train? With his experience and ties to our donor base and alumni already, he would HAVE to be at the top of the list.

Are we just wanting to clean house completely?

Is there a reason we should be?

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Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:37 pm

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Re: David Baliff

Don has been here 14 years, all under Larry. Coryell is responsible for the athletic department's marketing and promotional campaigns, ticket operations, facilities, university licensing, corporate partnerships and community relations. We all have issues with some of these areas.

What makes you think DC is the answer and not just LT 2.0?

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Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:40 pm

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Re: David Baliff

why would you want to hire someone who has spent 15yrs under the guy you want gone?

i say that as someone who likes don, but i want someone who doesn't come to the gig w/ the preconceived notions of what can and can't happen at txst. and i damn sure want someone who came from a winning athletic department that put butts in seats and teams in tournaments.

edit: get out of my head, jacko!

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Mon Oct 08, 2018 3:43 pm

TXSTRiverBobcat

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Re: David Baliff

Exactly what Voltronjacko and Saul said.

I personally think that Don is one of, if not the only competent person in the AD, but I do not want our next AD to be someone that is currently under LT. Too big of a chance that it will be business as usual under a different name.

We have to get someone in that looks at our stats objectively. Someone that can see our location, size, facilities and budget compared to our peers, and believes that we are a sleeping giant.

I don't see anyone that is currently or has previously been apart of our athletic department and AD culture fitting that mold. We need an outsider with a vision.

Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:15 pm

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Re: David Baliff

So what qualifies Baliff as an AD? I'm not opposed to the idea, but what would get his name in the discussion? Does he have admin experience, or just coaching?

Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:51 pm

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Re: David Baliff

rtuncap wrote:

So what qualifies Baliff as an AD? I'm not opposed to the idea, but what would get his name in the discussion? Does he have admin experience, or just coaching?

Was about to ask the very same question. I mean we all love the dude since he cared about the university and his success on the field here lit the flame that was The Drive to FBS. But other than that and being a good schmoozer, what experience and knowledge would he bring in running an entire athletic department? I mean it's more than just a popularity contest, you gotta be good at ALL the things too.

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Mon Oct 08, 2018 11:07 pm

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Re: David Bailiff

Coach Bailiff is an excellent football coach, I certainly do not want to retread it here but even "the knee" was the right thing to do under the circumstances.

But I believe that his talents would be wasted as our head football coach as he is first and foremost a leader of (wo)men. And with his long and enduring contacts at Texas State, in the Austin/San Antonio corridor and Texas athletics, he would be an excellent choice for our Athletic Director.

Don Coryell has remained at Texas State longer than we have deserved him simply because he loves where he is and what he does. He is as effective as anyone we have ever had (well, in my 45 years with the program) in the athletic department.

I believe strongly that any Bailiff/Coryell combination would lead us to finally realize our undeniable potential as a regional contender.

Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:21 am

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Re: David Bailiff

Xochis wrote:

Coach Bailiff is an excellent football coach, I certainly do not want to retread it here but even "the knee" was the right thing to do under the circumstances.

The circumstances being 2:00 left on the clock, 3x timeouts in our pocket, ball on our own 25 with a QB so good that he would go on to play professional ball in what was the most important game that our football team had played in 23 years (See Wacker, 1982) and you don't even TRY to move down the ball field!?!?!

_________________I respectfully disagree with time on the internet being "wasted." I would've never known that a monkey would fall over after smelling his own, stinky finger if it wasn't for the glory of the internet.

Coach Bailiff is an excellent football coach, I certainly do not want to retread it here but even "the knee" was the right thing to do under the circumstances.

The circumstances being 2:00 left on the clock, 3x timeouts in our pocket, ball on our own 25 with a QB so good that he would go on to play professional ball in what was the most important game that our football team had played in 23 years (See Wacker, 1982) and you don't even TRY to move down the ball field!?!?!

HORSE SHIT

I think the bigger issue with that play is we were very successful running the ball.

So knowing that Nealy wasn't running the 2 minute offense very well at the time means... Ok, don't throw the ball.

But run it once to see. the RB's didn't have a case of fumblitis that night, so realistically, the worst that would happen was a no gain or negative gain, which... Big deal, then you kneel it.

Upside would be a decent to large gain to put us in better field position to utilize one of the better kickers we have had in our history.

There's absolutely no way you can honestly say (with a straight face at least) that it was the right call.

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Tue Oct 09, 2018 5:37 pm

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Re: David Baliff

Anyone think about us going after Chris Park to come back and take the helm?

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Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:01 am

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Re: David Baliff

i wonder if he'd even come back if offered. he is keenly aware of the bureaucratic bullshit at the university, even outside the ad. he definitely felt the frustration of having to deal w/ 9 other groups to get simple shit done.

but, is 5 years at utep the type of resume we want for our next leader? maybe after another couple of years at wazzou? i like the guy, and he was smart enough to know he needed to get out of sm to grow his career, so i wouldn't hate that hire, but not sure that's the right profile for what we need right now.

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Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:00 am

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Re: David Baliff

TXSTRiverBobcat wrote:

Exactly what Voltronjacko and Saul said.

I personally think that Don is one of, if not the only competent person in the AD, but I do not want our next AD to be someone that is currently under LT.

I typically enjoy the banter on this message board and agree with a lot of what is said, but I felt compelled to write a comment after seeing the above post. I hope you don't really mean what you said here or you're just generalizing the department as a whole, because these types of comments certainly don't help the cause.

I am close with a few people inside the department, and I know for a fact there are a ton of great, quality, awesome people that work for Texas State Athletics. For instance, Jeremy Stolfa is one of the hardest-working men I've ever seen, and his staff is woefully underpaid yet works their asses off day in and day out to make sure our facilities are top notch. Texas State has some of the best athletic trainers out there, and outside of the top two/three are also woefully underpaid compared to their peers. TXST has some amazing people in the marketing department that are great at what they're allowed to do. The list goes on and on.

If you want to be frustrated with Teis and the administration, that's fine. It seems that a lot of people think that those in the upper tier of the athletics department aren't doing what it takes to win. But that doesn't mean that there aren't a whole heck of a lot of people at the bottom of the totem pole that bust their asses - despite massive pay gaps between the haves and have nots - to pump out top-notch, high-quality work every single day for those that more and more don't seem to appreciate it. And you would notice if you bothered to pay attention to anything other than football (I say this to everyone who chooses to only care about football, not this specific poster as I don't know if he follows other sports or not).

Apologies for the rant. I just hate when my friends get thrown into this BS because they're incredible at what they do and are some of the best in the business in their respective areas of expertise.

Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:17 am

chockyy

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Re: David Baliff

Best Bobcat Fan wrote:

I typically enjoy the banter on this message board and agree with a lot of what is said, but I felt compelled to write a comment after seeing the above post. I hope you don't really mean what you said here or you're just generalizing the department as a whole, because these types of comments certainly don't help the cause.

I am close with a few people inside the department, and I know for a fact there are a ton of great, quality, awesome people that work for Texas State Athletics. For instance, Jeremy Stolfa is one of the hardest-working men I've ever seen, and his staff is woefully underpaid yet works their asses off day in and day out to make sure our facilities are top notch. Texas State has some of the best athletic trainers out there, and outside of the top two/three are also woefully underpaid compared to their peers. TXST has some amazing people in the marketing department that are great at what they're allowed to do. The list goes on and on.

If you want to be frustrated with Teis and the administration, that's fine. It seems that a lot of people think that those in the upper tier of the athletics department aren't doing what it takes to win. But that doesn't mean that there aren't a whole heck of a lot of people at the bottom of the totem pole that bust their asses - despite massive pay gaps between the haves and have nots - to pump out top-notch, high-quality work every single day for those that more and more don't seem to appreciate it. And you would notice if you bothered to pay attention to anything other than football (I say this to everyone who chooses to only care about football, not this specific poster as I don't know if he follows other sports or not).

Apologies for the rant. I just hate when my friends get thrown into this BS because they're incredible at what they do and are some of the best in the business in their respective areas of expertise.

I agree with this (and chapeau to your friends in the AD doing good work for our school), but at the same time, I personally don't want the next AD to be promoted from within. I want someone with fresh eyes to take a fresh look at everything, top to bottom.

Apologies for the rant. I just hate when my friends get thrown into this BS because they're incredible at what they do and are some of the best in the business in their respective areas of expertise.

I think you'll find that most folks don't blame the boots on the ground folks too much, as they don't have the power to really affect any change within the department. So most of us don't really know if they are good people (and please get that when I say good people, I'm not talking about character or the like) or not.

No way for us to really gauge them, with the exception of whomever put together the presentation for the 2008 SLC championship team needs to be shown the door immediately. I don't know who put that together, or who approved it, but I could have done a better job of it in 20 minutes without any software other than Microsoft Office.

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