There's a difference between running the river and racing the river. Experienced Green racer Jason Beakes joins the show to talk about how to race the Green River, what makes it difficult, and takes us through the strategy for each rapid.

Join Liquid Logic's Woody Calloway, EJ from Jackson Kayaks, Snowy Robertson from Dagger Kayaks, Zoar Outdoor's Bruce Lessels and a gathering of instructors and paddlers at an open discussion on the on the past, present and future of boat design from the Whitewater Symposium at the Nantahala Outdoor Center.

With multiple first descents worldwide and several books on whitewater and rivers – Doug Ammons recently landed on Outside magazine’s list of the '10 Greatest Adventurers Since 1900.' Doug’s profile in the outdoor community rose again recently with his participation in Forge Motion Pictures award winning film ‘Wildwater, A Love Story.’

I sit down with Doug to talk about the Stikine, the North Fork of the Payette, the 'Wildwater film', and even a recent swim. Doug also takes a few questions submitted by In Between Swims listeners.