Originally posted by Stiglitz
We are not alone in the universe. That is a mathematical fact. Thank you for this post.

The drake equation is a measure of probability based on unknown variables not a mathematical fact

Even if we did know the exact numbers for the equation it proves noting as it is a measure of probability.

If you have a 1 in 100 million chance of winning the lottery and you did the lottery every week for 100 million weeks you still may not win the
lottery. Its still 1 in 100 million chance each time you do it ,that's how probability works.

Considering that the U-shape doesn't seem to be consistent throughout the footage, I'd suspect what they're seeing is a UAV with forward swept
wings, and the bright white U-shape is actually a compression cloud forming over the aircraft. In part of the video when it zooms in, the angle
changes and reveals what looks like a darker object with profile resembling a forward-swept wing...

And in case somebody doesn't know what a compression cloud is... Let me make it easy... www.google.com...

In some of those pics, the right conditions can conceal the profile of the entire aircraft. Usually occurs during high-angle-of-attack flight. But
with a forward swept wing, the pressure gradient might create a compression cloud in level flight when the atmospheric conditions are right.

Originally posted by rootbranch2012
That shape is problematic for flight. Looks more someone tossed a neck pillow in the air.

The spacecrafts from other planets (that people sometimes call UFOs) do not FLY. They have a completely different technique to traveling that humans
haven't invented a word for yet.

That's why the shape is pretty much irrelevant, as long as it doesn't have proturberances and such, like the Terran primitive 'airplanes' and
such.

As long as the shape allows the magnetic field flow smoothly, the shape is irrelevant. There has been many shapes of UFOs seen throughout the human
history. None of them "flew"..

The only problems I have with this video is that 1) It ends so abruptly, without showing the "vanishing" very well 2) the flight is very 'level' -
I mean, in speed, altitude, everything - it's hardly "UFO-like" flight. Usually UFOs do not behave like that - they stay near one spot for awhile
(any time ranging from seconds to hours), hovering and moving about a bit while doing it slowly - and then they just take off, faster than any rocket
- WOOSHH - and they are already a huge distance away. Also, when they are in "flight" (they don't fly, but there's no alternative word for it, so
I am using "flight"), the turns they have been known to perform have been impossible for Terran 'airplanes' to even try to mimic. (This is again,
because they don't FLY, and they are not affected by G-forces or anything - they form their own magnetic field and gravity, so they are in effect
shielded from any effects that the planet would otherwise cause them - they can make very sharp turns without inertia, friction or 'slowness of the
mass' affecting them, etc.)

And usually, when an UFO travels by air, it 'bobs' a bit - even Kenneth Arnold described this movement, like saucers would, if you threw them on
water surface. Hence the term 'flying saucers'. He never meant to describe their looks, but their MOVEMENT - it wasn't "level", but it was
bouncing up and down slightly, conforming to the shape of the terrain (makes sense, because UFOs have been known to 'ride the magnetic waves', in
other words, the magnetic field of the planet).

This doesn't disprove anything of course, it just raises some doubts in me. Perhaps they want to start showing themselves now that the
'civilization' is on it's deathbed.. I mean, considering they can be invisible, why would they otherwise show such long, 'level' stretch before
becoming invisible again?

I still think Meier's footage is better and way more convincing, so this is not 'best UFO footage ever', that I have seen (even Daniel Fry's
footage was quite impressive compared to this). Not that anyone -here- has claimed it to be, but some people in the youtube version have.

With the 3D rendering possibilities of today, it wouldn't be too difficult for many people, who have immersed themselves with video effects and
combination of rendered 3D into pre-existing video, to create something like this. They could do it in one day, without expenses.

If it wasn't so lacking in typical UFO characteristics, I might consider it a bit more, but as it stands now, it looks to me that someone simply
tried to create a 'convincing-looking' UFO video, and that's that. We don't hear the backstory of this video, we don't hear other people, we
don't see anyone filming anything else first, nothing. There's basically no credibility. It's just another "video"..

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