Hi event organizers I am Evans from Kenya and I would like to volunteer in organizing Wiki Love Monument event here in Kenya as an individual, I have a greater passion for monument and would thus like to be part of it. You can always reach me at kurgitz@gmail.com.Thanks,and kind regards,Evans. 197.181.235.25 11:21, 30 January 2013

Dear all, I have added information about this year's Participants' Survey. More about it at the meet-up on Thursday in Milano. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments. Beat Estermann (talk) 07:11, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking. The infrastructure here on Commons is not primarily aiming at participants, but rather at organizers. That would be different for the upload infrastructure, which Romaine sent recently an email about recently. Getting that translated is definitely important, as is getting the national (in your case, UK specific) pages translated. I'm not sure if it would be very helpful to translate these specific pages - but if someone is willing they can restructure it to make translations possible of course. But I wouldn't say it has my priority right now.

I don't know where else to report this but it appears the banner at the top of my page advertising Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 doesn't link properly. It just links to the page you are looking at - i.e. refreshes the page. ツStacey (talk) 07:08, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Should be solved by now. If not, let us know. Romaine (talk) 11:08, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Can anyone tell me why the WMF does not listen to its own (I assume) advice? Keφr (talk) 11:18, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi,

Thank you for your kind and constructive words. 'Wiki Loves' has grown over the past years to become a concept of how to organize a group of activities, including Wiki Loves Art, Wiki Loves Monuments and Wiki Loves Earth. It is definitely tied to the Wikimedia movement, but not necessarily to Wikipedia. Of course within Wikimedia we love naming debates, as we also have had long and repeated debates about whether the word monuments is accurate enough, and even whether Loves should be upper case or not. One of the reasons we chose for Wiki in the past was that it makes the title shorter, it just sounds much nicer to a newcomer (more inclusive) and it removes the whole trademark fuzz that would otherwise be brought up (imagine 50 countries having to go through Legal and being delayed waiting for contracts to be signed - nobody wants that!). So the reasons are primarily practical. Effeietsanders (talk) 11:14, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Oh stop it, you. It just seems a bit unfortunate and embarrassing that we spend time teaching people not to use "Wiki" as a proper noun, and then ruin (pun intended) that with names like "Wiki Loves Monuments". Seeing this banner above the very "Wikipedia is not Wiki" page is especially ironic. But whatever. I just wanted to know if anyone gave a thought about it and what was the reasoning. Keφr (talk) 10:55, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, basically we're aware there are indeed downsides to this naming practice. But thanks for bringing it up though! Effeietsanders (talk) 09:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Sorry if this is a daft question, but I can't see anything about the most obvious point: If this is a competition, who wins? Is it the person who takes the most photos, or best photo (in which case who judges?), or most buildings, or what? An optimist on the run! 07:00, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

The new Commons brochure for newcomers, Illustrating Wikipedia: A guide to contributing content to Wikimedia Commons, might be useful for getting newcomers started during WLM, especially with in-person WLM events involving newcomers. I'm eager to get feedback on how well the brochure works "in the field", so if anyone has a chance to use it, please let me know. (And of you are planning an in-person even where some printed copies would be useful, let me know that too and I'll see if some can be sent.)

I plan to create a wiki version of the brochure, which may be more useful in the future for WLM and similar Commons events, although that probably won't be ready in time for use this year. (If you're interested in helping set that up, I'd be happy to have the help!)--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 13:47, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps it makes sense to bring this specifically to the English speaking participating countries? I know that WMUK and WMCA usually do on the ground events, and that NYC is also doing something. For countries where English isn't a native language (most), it might be harder to actually use it as events are usually held in the local language. Effeietsanders (talk) 09:57, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I'd be downright hesitant to give out that guide in the UK. The UK has a very liberal Freedom of Panorama law, page 3 of the guide would actively discourage people from taking pictures that they have every right to release to Commons.

I realise that freedom of Panorama varies by country, but by not recognising it, WLM shoots itself right in the foot for the countries that has it. Adam Cuerden (talk) 18:58, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

I noticed that Wikipedia has a bunch of nation-specific templates, each used about once, at w:Kenya Template:Monument roww:Template:Botswana Monument roww:Template:Ghana Monument roww:Template:HK Declared Monument roww:Template:ASI Monument row. I've merged many of their features into w:Template:Monument row, but I haven't yet tried to substitute it into the articles. The beneficial part is that having one template allows all bugs to be fixed at once, such as a mix-up between style and class strings that was only fixed in the Ghana version. A potentially troublesome point is that because some of the tables include different rows, I've made some columns optional, but making a column optional means you have to put in place of an entry to keep the table from losing a position there if just one entry is blank. (It is possible to fix that with a specialized script or Lua to enforce default values for named pages, but I'm not sure it's worth it) You also have to set a parameter that campaign=wlm-hk or the like because the unified template name doesn't cover it.

Anyway, at this point I should just see if there's interest in this from anyone else. Wnt (talk) 02:10, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Each country needs their own row template. Do not merge them because that would break much. The way how we have set it up is fully thought trough. Everything depends on separate templates. Romaine (talk) 04:35, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Their only purpose is to display rows in a table on one article each, right? I can't imagine why they can't be merged, provided the right parameters are used and passed from each page. To put it another way: if I make the switch to a combined template, and the article using those rows still looks the same, then there's no problem, right? Wnt (talk) 06:57, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

It keeps having problems. There is no reason to merge here, and will breaks things. Romaine (talk) 23:05, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

I understand that this issue is delicate. I guess File:Շուշիի Ղազանչեցոց մայր տաճարը-11.JPG is a picture of whatever Müqəddəs Xilaskar Məsih kilsəsi/ԵԿԵՂԵՑԻ ՍԲ ԱՄԵՆԱՓՐԿԻՉ, ՂԱԶԱՆՉԵՑՈՑ means, a monument in Shusha/Shushi. This town lies within Nagorno-Karabakh, a region that is internationally recognized as part of Azerbaijan, but builds the de facto independent state of Nagorno-Karabakh Republic. (Correct me, if I am wrong so far.) Anyway, on Wikimedia Commons is categorized as part of Azerbaijan and that’s how your photo became Azerbaijani. For the removal of a template you linked: I would not mind if the images description bears the Armenia ID, too. After all, it is recorded by some Armenia office and reproducing this information is not factual wrong, in my opinion. Any second thoughts? --Alex (talk) 20:59, 19 September 2013 (UTC) PS: Just an early hint for all participants of this discussion: Wikimedia Commons is about sharing, not possessing.

Alex, thank you for taking the time and explaining. There is a lot more delicacy involved, but that's for another time. My question is whether it is possible to force someone to be in a competition they don't want to be in. Of course Commons or time spent on Wikipedia is meant for sharing, but that doesn't mean you can forcefully nominate someone to be an administrator and dedicate the time if they don't want to; similarly, can you force someone to participate in a contest and win a prize for what they have contributed if they don't want to? I think that's what basically all of this boils down to. Chaojoker (talk) 20:09, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

I spent my time, money and efforts, for taking those photos, but now this photos out of scope from Wiki loves monuments, because Armenian monuments references deleted, and I cannot participate in Azerbaijan's wiki arrangement. Also I don't think, Azerbaijan's can give me any prize for my unwillingness participation. Please, correct my uploaded photos and warns above users for their unjust actions. I must choose from which country I want to participate in photo arrangement, and none can decide to change my participation country. It's my right, I think.

I am from Bangladesh. There are lot of monuments and structures are in Bangladesh. I am missing my country name in wiki loves monuments section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dip732 (talk • contribs) 09:04, 19. Sep. 2013 (UTC)

hey i am also from Bangladesh and there are so many great archaeological attractions that would definitely be of interest to many. so please include Bangladesh into the list. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.56.4.81 (talk • contribs) 04:25, 26. Sep. 2013‎ (UTC)

I turn to you as a one of most up-loader photos in the world. I think it is no correct, when unwillingly users moves to other arrangements. I couldn't understand Azerbaijan country's people behavior. How can they explain, what most of participants in wlm.az (http://stats.wikilovesmonuments.cl/?pais=azerbaijan) are Armenians. Also, most of moved picture names written by Armenian letters.

In mention statistic you cans see "A.arpi.a, Vacio, Vagharsh, Aydinyan, Ghulyan, Vahag851 users. They most uploaders after Interface and Urek Meniashvili, and because they are wlm.az organizers, A.arpi.a becomes most up-loader for Azerbaijan country. Is it correct ?

For me it unjustness and need to correct it. I can understand, when this action do with new users, but when they do with wlm.az organizers, it's just shame for their country.

If Azerbaijan's think, monuments in Nagorno-Karabakh theirs, they can go to this place and take photos. It's their problem. But they just stolen from Armenian WLM. It's unjust.

I require to reset all mention users pictures history to first state. --Arman musikyan (talk) 13:23, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Two WLM identifier templates in one image (eg. in case of Nagorno-Karabakh vs. Azerbaijan)Edit

After there were some complains from users who uploaded images of monuments from Nagorno-Karabakh/Azerbaijan, the international team has discussed the issue and this is the upshot:

If a monument is recognized by two countries, then basically it is OK to add two identifier templates in a single image.

However this can only happen we can add the {{Wiki Loves Monuments 2013|az/am}} template only if the uploader of the images clearly wants to participate in the contest in both countries.

If we are not sure of this, we may add in only one of the images of the same uploader the additional WLM template (assuming that if they want to, they will add the template to their images themselves).

The uploader can remove WLM templates from "their" images if they don't want to participate in the contest in country B. We should not readd the template in those cases.

We also should not add WLM templates to images, where the uploader didn't indicate they want to participate in WLM.

Just to correct you. According this users are allowed to remove only WLM templates from images they've uploaded, not Monuments identifier template (like {{Cultural Heritage Azerbaijan}}). It is possible to add monument identifiers templates anytime to the pictures, since this actually depends on the fact that the given monument is officially recognized as cultural heritage by country X or Y. --Interfase (talk) 07:48, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

It seems that you are right. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I have corrected myself above. --vacio 17:32, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

When doing such quantitative comparisons, one should note that quality differences between countries can differ massively. A cursory look at India shows that there are massive uploads of multiple near-identical and redundant images like at Category:Akbar's Tomb. --ELEKHHT 07:57, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello WLM organizers, I am Fidelis from Nigeria, and I would like to volunteer in organizing Wiki Loves Monument event here in Nigeria. I have a great passion for monuments and landmarks, and would thus like to be part of it. You can reach me by mail (fidelisowilliams@yahoo.com).

Hi! My name is Daniel Lisboa, and i would like to volunteer in organizing Wiki Love Monument in Brasil. I love monuments, and i had lots of pictures for help. Contact me at the email: danielslisboa@gmail.com Thanks, 200.222.80.241 15:50, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Not sure if it is normal, but the WLM banner in China is a straigth link to http://aiguji.org and it looks like a camera buying page (when seen from China). Actually today it looks less like that, but the other it was really a shopping mall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.144.67.50 (talk • contribs)

That would be odd. The page definitely was a competition page here. If you have screenshots, please email them to me. (my username at gmail.com would work) Effeietsanders (talk) 12:07, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

The winners of the international finale will be published in the days around 10 December. We want to be able to present a thorough jury report and give the prize winning countries a chance to prepare a press release if they feel necessary. Effeietsanders (talk) 10:16, 27 November 2013 (UTC)