#Irony. A small fringe group siezes Federal government land claiming the government is controlling the land "without fair representation" meanwhile this group is using force of arms to control the land entirely for themselves???

I will say it's fucked up a federal judge said the two dudes didn't spend enough time imprisoned and sent them back. If they had been black, Al Sharpton would have organized a protest and I'm sure we all would be some degree of livid.

But I don't get the end game. Is the Federal government supposed to say, "Okay. You win. Tell us what you want and we'll do it"?

i thought all these bumpkins were gonna be executed during jade helm? i guess if the feds wont make them feel important enough to stop from turning the gun on themselves or a school they have to make scenes like this. oh well, they'll have the last laugh when the dollar dies and we're all ploughing the grain fields outside their shelters because they had the foresight to buy gold coins from glenn beck. keep on misreadin' that constitution y'all

I will say it's fucked up a federal judge said the two dudes didn't spend enough time imprisoned and sent them back.

Yeah but those "dudes" set dangerous fires. Further they have NOTHING to do with what is happening in Oregon and have explicitly condemned it. While i agree its not necessarily "right" to "throw the book" at the Hammonds on the same token you reap what you sow and buy the ticket take the ride. On the block, if you man enough to commit crime you man enough to do your time, its pussy ass whiteboys who always want a free ride. They wanted to challenge Uncle Sam, pay your dues like a man then.

But I don't get the end game. Is the Federal government supposed to say, "Okay. You win. Tell us what you want and we'll do it"?[/quote]

I don't know that they have one. They are a bunch of grossly immature assholes who live on a steady diet of Fox News and Rambo fantasies. And their inspiration is the fuckhead deadbeat from Arizona who wants to graze his cattle for free. Yeah, welfare is bad if you're a black mother but OK if you're a redneck Nazi.

But I don't get the end game. Is the Federal government supposed to say, "Okay. You win. Tell us what you want and we'll do it"?

I don't know that they have one. They are a bunch of grossly immature assholes who live on a steady diet of Fox News and Rambo fantasies. And their inspiration is the fuckhead deadbeat from Arizona who wants to graze his cattle for free. Yeah, welfare is bad if you're a black mother but OK if you're a redneck Nazi.

Exactly! Does ANYONE actually believe the government is going to just turn over protected lands because a bunch of pissed off rednecks brandished some guns looking like total assholes on TV? The reality is an overwhelming majority of Americans SUPPORT federal protected lands and tens of millions each year enjoy the access to recreation. My favorite hiking place in all of southern California is in a national forest. If it weren't for the federal protections this forest would literally be a rock quarry like the unprotected land just two miles adjacent. Fuck these rednecks, they are literally blessed to be alive right now and not been killed by law enforcement, and if they keep pushing their luck they may not remain so blessed

This goes even beyond classic white privilege. Look, I haven't watched TV in the last two weeks because I can't pay the cable bill because I've spent all my coins on ROCK

, so this argument has most likely been made already, but still: these mooks strike me as basically Teabaggers in action, "taking shit over" rather than just holding defaced portraits of Obama in Joker makeup. And so, the federal government's stance is that they don't want to move in with a full-on forceful eviction because THEN it would look like The Black Muslim Kenyan Socialist Radical President Barack Hussein Obama is clamping down on the opressed white ordinary God-fearing genuine Americans and their super-awesome DIVINE RIGHT to bear arms and shoot people in the face. It's all about FREEDOM, BABY! Word!

How is it not textbook white privilege? Unarmed black kids get shot and or killed by law enforcement literally every single day in America. These armed assholes occupy federal park by force and have been there FOR A FUCKING MONTH?? Cops are saying, "gee willikers guys.. golly do you think maybe soon you might take your guns and you know, if its not too mich trouble, go back home?"

Now I'm not advocating for some Waco shit but seriously..
EVERY black person in America and us n****er loving white sell outs like myself are knowing that if it were not white people they'd all be shot and or killed, period, end of discussion.

The very fact that you are suggesting a black president is afraid to enforce law against an act pf domestic terrorism simply because the perpetrators are white is again another textbook definition of WHITE PRIVILEGE. Only white criminals have such privilege to define their punishment seemingly with impunity. I am not saying you're analysis of the inaction isn't correct, just that its precisely because of WHITE PRIVILEGE that some punk ass whiteboys and rednecks can thwart the Commander and Chief simply because of the optics of politics.

It is indeed a significant federal crime to bring guns onto a federal park let alone to use them to capture a federal building and occupy it for a month. Fuck them. Bunch of pussy ass crybabies.. whiteboys always like to whine when their sense of entitlement is threatened as is the case with these backwoods assholes.

These guys were really full of illusion - did they really think they would be allowed to leave the park and travel at will and then return as they like?

Regardless of their cause, this video does show to me the FBI ran them off the road and then executed Lavoy Fincum - if you go to about 1:40 and turn the off the stupid soundtrack. I'm sure the killer in the woods was in fear of his life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYHdiprw4AA

sorry, tesla, but the aerial video clearly shows finny waving his arms around, reaching into his jacket pocket at least two times where they found a loaded 9mm. He evaded or tried to evade 2 legal stops and then jumped out, waving his arms and at least threatening to pull his gun. I've almost been shot by a cop for much less than that....