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Wednesday, December 04, 2013

WOOLWICH WITNESSES

1.26pm

Chris Spivey has noticed that we are being given two different times for the attack on soldier Lee Rigby in Woolwich in London.

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There's one other major thing missing from both the narrative, and the visual record of the scene, which I discovered when I went down there myself:

https://vimeo.com/71379865

There is a YouTuber called Morris, who began posting videos about Woolwich being a false flag almost immediately.

He was ALL over YouTube within 2 days.

Despite being an aging hippie in a Wooly hat who apparently lives in someone's back garden, all his videos were posted in 1080p HD.

He's almost certainly 5, and appears to be spreading cognitive diversity and discouraging people from visiting the scene - one of his videos is of the road sign / lamp post, stating that it wasn't hit by a car - it's obvious from watching his video, and from first hand examination of the post, it WAS hit by a car, but certainty not one travelling more than one or two miles per hour, just enough to leave some scuff marks and hairline cracks in the cement below.

But he uploads this video of the post, which discourages people (me included) from going to Woolwich and having a look around - when you do, you realise that the lamp post is directly opposite (20 yards away) from the rear vehicle entrance (concealed in overhead shots by the treeline) of the largest military base in Greater London, with CCTV all over the place - all of this happened with clear view of the cameras.

And both the wrecked car, and all the props, clearly came out of that gate.

"It's not unusual for lazy Britons to not bother changing these things, and not all of them automatically update on their own."

That's a very convenient excuse, which was also employed for one of the 7/7 cameras being fast by (I think, from memory) about 1hr and five minutes approximately.

You are right - British people are lazy, and they don't update things. But this is (allegedly) an integrated system of cameras, slaved to a central control centre.

And they DO update themselves automatically if, when setting them up, you tell them (correctly) what time zone they are located in.

That doesn't explain why Rigours is STANDING in the middle of the road, rather than walking or running, or why he hasn't reacted to the revving of engines from the crazed Jihadi Catholic Speed Racer intent on running him down.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/tyky2ykd92qzdb6/2013-12-04%2021.07.11.png

Makes NO sense.

If he was hit by the car in the middle of the road, he should have had broken legs and been launched down the centre of the carriageway - or landed on the windshield.

That doesn't explain how he ended up on the pavement (there's a big, overhanging tree there, so they can do the switch with the mannequin while he's out of shit from the people filming up in the Tower block on the left), or why the car collided (very slowly) with the pole.

Look very closely at the above - if looks as though the traffic is backed up on th otherside of the intersection with the main road.

In the stage centre, Rigours is in front of the key car, but if you look, there is another car, stopped on the right, parked against the flow of traffic, and between the two cars, they have blocked off traffic coming from that direction;

In the foreground those two blurry cohorts have blocked off the pavement on the left, so we have a surreptitious perimeter being established - they are there to stop any pedestrians on that side of the street from approaching the staging area by waving their arms, filming things with their phones and yelling "Oh my God!!!"

It's the Asch Social Compliance model - if you physically block off an area with barriers or tape, people will question it - if you give them a social norm to conform to (not going to help a man being decapitated, or going any closer to investigate, denouncing Jews or Communists, pretending to care about Big Brother), most people will fall in line with it "because that's what everyone else was doing".

Before you can perform a piece of Street Theatre, you have to clear a space.

And since the only purpose of putting a timestamp on the footage from these cameras is to provide a chain of evidence in criminal investigations, failing to tell the camera that everyone around it is operating on Greenwich Mean Time, when the camera itself is located about a mile away from the Prime Merridian in Greenwich (which is fairly interesting all by itself) is fairly moronic.

But as you say, this comes down to the British worker, and low-level basic grade civil servants at that, so maybe the clock on the Camera is just WRONG.

But also, there isn't a camera there.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0jpgoaqz48cowcv/2013-12-04 21.39.07.png

I thought there might have been for a minute or two, but it's just an open window.

Take another look at my footage from August:

https://vimeo.com/71379865

I'm not convinced that's a real off-license - it was formerly (in the recent past a pub, and it appears to be completely stocked from a local cash and carry, without much care and attention to retail nicities.

So - I am now going to indulge in a conspiracy theory; be warned, this is my SPECULATION only....

That property was formerly a pub, directly opposite the rear entrance to Woolwich Barracks/Woolwich Aresenal, which is exactly what the name says it was....

Wouldn't it make sense if it was owned by the Crown?

The building obviously dates back easily to pre-World War I, so wouldn't it make sense if the place was owned by MI5 or some other branch of Army Intelligence in days of yore...?

Any saboteurs or spies would be excellently placed and positioned to monitor the comings and goings of artillery and munitions, and it would be the first sight a thirsty Tommy Squaddie would see right before the ale began to loosen lips.

It MUST be owned by MI5.

I'd be shocked if it hadn't been, at some point.... Especially during World War II.

Here Endeth the Speculation...

Here's what it looks like as you pass through the staging area - it's not obvious from the MSM, but this really is a TINY area we're talking about, here....

Now I do not believe this Pacific Time nonsense, but, for what it is worth and remembering the timescale of events - although muddied - are on most camera shots...https://twitter.com/TfLTrafficNews/statuses/337298621735251969

Paul Coker. There are or were cameras on The Queen Victoria. They can be seen on Google Street View, pictures dated as May 2012. There are/were three of them. One on the grey wood next to the function room sign and directly under a small satellite dish. This one appears to be pointing down the road towards where the incident took place. Another is at the other end of the building on the grey wood near the Free House sign, pointing in the opposite direction. There is/was another camera on the building, round the corner in Rectory Place, looking down towards the shop door.

There is also another large camera on the wall near the barracks back gate, pointing at the back gate. Another camera is situated on the traffic lights at the end of the road pointing up towards the Queen Victoria. Behind that on a pole is another large camera pointing up the A205.

One anomaly that I noticed is that one of the aerial photos shows the tent down near the corner of the A205 on the barracks side instead of up Artillery Place on the Queen Victoria side.

The incident took place very near to a school, between lunchtime and school kicking out time.

Michael 'Toby' Adebowale & Ahmed Ahmed were stabbed during an incident at Verona House on the Larner Road estate in Erith, southeast London, on January 5 2008, which resulted in the murder of Faridon Alizada, of Bexley. Adebowale & Ahmed were reported to be with Faridon Alizada when Lee James came in at 3am claiming to want to buy drugs.

Lee James was found guilty by a jury & convicted of the murder of Faridon Alizada, at Southwark Crown Court on 19 December 2008. Michael Harwood was found not guilty.

Court reports stated that 'the 17 year-old who was stabbed when Faridon Alizada was murdered was sentenced to four months detention and training...'

The incident is linked with the 'Woolwich Boys' stuff of 2008. From the Lee James trial in December 2008, James, who also used the last names Peacock and Cantwell, told people 'he had robbed, murdered and stabbed the occupants of the flat'.

'He told others he believed that the men in the flat were supporters of Al Qaeda and that they had offered him money to act as a suicide bomber to blow up the nearby Bluewater Shopping Centre,' said prosecutor Tony Leonard.'

original report here - no mention of Michael:http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/3994670.ERITH__Faridon_Alizada_murderer_gets_life/

Madeleine Edwards, a family friend who lived in the same block of flats as Adebowale in Greenwich, south London, said he had been involved with a local gang – the Woolwich boys – when he was a young teenager and had been in "some serious gangland trouble".

She said he had been a witness in a high-profile murder trial and that his mother had said he had to "disappear for a while." He left for about a year and when he came back he appeared to have converted to Islam and had become distant. "He could see my disdain at the direction he had gone in," she said.

I've watched all of Morris' videos on this topic and I just don't recall that he ever discouraged anyone from visiting the actual scene. He encouraged people to question and investigate the matter for themselves.

He always pointed out the glaring disparity between the mainstream media official narrative and what was actually at the scene or what could have occurred. He raised lots of questions and proved logically the whole thing was a hoax from the very beginning.

I have to suggest to anyone go to his channel and watch his videos for themselves and decide.