Battalion board: 06/15/16. My recruiter told me that one of the officers on board did not like one of my answers. I passed the board, but I never actually saw any score. I do know that it was a vote of 2-1 though.

LORS:

-USAF f-100 pilot who was a POW for 5 years in vietnam.

-4 Star USAF General(Retired).

-A Navy f-4 pilot, lieutenant colonel(retired).

-An f-15 Lieutenant Colonel with the ANG.

-My flight instructor from my PPL.

-A current Congressman

OTHER INFO: No prior military experience; No waivers needed.

Selection Boards: July 18-22nd, 2016 // Selected: Found out the 20th.

***I understand its going to be an insane amount of work but I couldn't be more excited to have been selected. I'm ready to work and can't wait to fulfill my dream of becoming a military aviator.

These percentages only reflect the AD boards. The WOFT board, which is strictly the civilian route, has percentages ranging from 90-100% consistently. Though these boards are technically for the same program, they are still two separate sets of parameters when it comes to selection.

As much as I really can't stand the way the Army does this, one thing is quite certain regarding the WO Aviation programs : Active duty applicants have a harder time during selection than civilians do. There are reasons such as end strength goals, level of importance of current MOS and other career issues that face AD Soldiers during application.

Even with this in mind, a 73% selection rate still means for every 10 soldiers applying, more than 7 out of 10 get in. Keep filling out those packets, the odds are in your favor!

These percentages only reflect the AD boards. The WOFT board, which is strictly the civilian route, has percentages ranging from 90-100% consistently. Though these boards are technically for the same program, they are still two separate sets of parameters when it comes to selection.

As much as I really can't stand the way the Army does this, one thing is quite certain regarding the WO Aviation programs : Active duty applicants have a harder time during selection than civilians do. There are reasons such as end strength goals, level of importance of current MOS and other career issues that face AD Soldiers during application.

Even with this in mind, a 73% selection rate still means for every 10 soldiers applying, more than 7 out of 10 get in. Keep filling out those packets, the odds are in your favor!

What's the difference between AD board and the Civilian board? I was under the impression that they were both WOFT but that they kept civilians and in-service members separate during the selection process.

What's the difference between AD board and the Civilian board? I was under the impression that they were both WOFT but that they kept civilians and in-service members separate during the selection process.

The Term "WOFT", "Warrant Officer Flight Training" is a civilian 'only' program. Civilian can include separated prior service. As far as the difference, refer to the thread you just quoted me on.

I guess I was just confused on the whole process. I was putting in a WOFT packet before I enlisted and now I'm doing a packet as enlisted and it all just seemed to be the same. I'm clearly wrong I just wish someone would have corrected me on my "PFC to WOFT" thread because now I feel pretty dumb.

I guess I was just confused on the whole process. I was putting in a WOFT packet before I enlisted and now I'm doing a packet as enlisted and it all just seemed to be the same. I'm clearly wrong I just wish someone would have corrected me on my "PFC to WOFT" thread because now I feel pretty dumb.

Really its all interchangable terms. Everyone refers to it as WOFT when dropping a warrant flight packet.

Really its all interchangable terms. Everyone refers to it as WOFT when dropping a warrant flight packet.

That is quite true unless we are referring to the selection rates & different requirements between the civilian WOFT program and the AD 153A program. Then program terms matter.

Just because "everyone" incorrectly refers to something, doesn't mean everyone is correct. Confusing the terms for newcomers is a short sighted case. These terms are classified in Regulations, that in turn have specific rules & requirements attached to them.

Forgive me if I am pencil pushing here but if the WOFT program has once set of requirements to fulfill and the AD 153A has another unique and different set to fulfill, why umbrella them under the same term?

That is quite true unless we are referring to the selection rates & different requirements between the civilian WOFT program and the AD 153A program. Then program terms matter.

Just because "everyone" incorrectly refers to something, doesn't mean everyone is correct. Confusing the terms for newcomers is a short sighted case. These terms are classified in Regulations, that in turn have specific rules & requirements attached to them.

Forgive me if I am pencil pushing here but if the WOFT program has once set of requirements to fulfill and the AD 153A has another unique and different set to fulfill, why umbrella them under the same term?

You think telling a qualified newcomer that he isnt ready, isnt short sighted all because he used the term WOFT? Cmon now...

Hey everyone, I'm really happy to have found this site. It's provided a lot of what I hope is good insight into the process.

I've seen some post allude that having a physical waiver is a pretty big deal. Anybody know anything more specific? I have an approved waiver for my elbow and my ankle. The ankle has a non-removable pin and the elbow had a scope done after a sports injury. Currently waiting on my flight physical from Fort Rucker. I took the second part on November 17th.

You think telling a qualified newcomer that he isnt ready, isnt short sighted all because he used the term WOFT? Cmon now...

If the qualified new comer is compiling their packet according to the WOFT program procedures instead of the AD to 153A procedures then no, I don't think its out of line to get the terms straight. It just seems people end up getting confused, twisted and turned around on requirements and steps because they are looking at the wrong info.