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French site claims 7,5cm GebK 285(j) to be Schneider gun and 7,5cm GebK 258(j) as Skoda M.28. However, there is also GebK 285(i) - Skoda M28 mountain guns captured by Italians in Yugoslavia, later to be seiyed by Germans!

New lists from Jos clearly marks GebK 285(j) as Skoda M.28 guns.

I know TWO Skoda M.28 GebK versions existed in Yugoslav armament, M.28 and M.28A, so two codes are maybe in order (but... ). However, where we lost Schneider piece?

French site claims 7,5cm GebK 285(j) to be Schneider gun and 7,5cm GebK 258(j) as Skoda M.28. However, there is also GebK 285(i) - Skoda M28 mountain guns captured by Italians in Yugoslavia, later to be seiyed by Germans!

New lists from Jos clearly marks GebK 285(j) as Skoda M.28 guns.

I`m quite sure the French page mixed up the numbers 258 & 285.....
That would leave the GebK 285(j) as Skoda M28 guns, and the GebK 258(j) as the Scheider gun???

Anyway, here is a ammunition sheet for GebK 285(j) with "Skoda M28" written all over the place

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First two of your pictures show Schneider Mle 1919 - no doubt about this.Problem is - I really have no source at all about this type in Yugoslav armament.From the list Erik posted, Germans didn't capture these guns in Yugoslavia in 1941 - undoubtedly not in signifacant number to alocate them beute number right from the start.(Yes, this "брдских топова" is very confusing - this is Yugoslav designation, although grammaticaly incorrect )

Also, most suspicious is the lack of beute number for the same guns with "(g)" designation, because Greece definitely had these mountain guns.

Next (third) of your picture is Skoda M28 - standard mountain gun of Yugoslav Army. From previous posts it was cartain that GebK 285(j) IS its correct number. Now we can be 110% sure for that.

Great data Sir! - I certainly have some data on the 7,5cm Geb K 258(j) "stinker" but I will have to check on the (g) pieces for you this evening - my main area of interest is large calibre KuK and German guns but I will see what I have for you.
regards

jopaerya wrote:Hello AllThere were only 3 guns 10,5 cm K. 336 (i) ( 105/40 ) in German service in 1944 .The 10,5 cm K. 340 (g) is also called the 105 m.m. Mod. 1927 .Not much but all little thinks helps .Regards Jos

Quite contrary, it heps a lot. I was affraid that K340(g) might turn to be yet another designation for Schneider L13S.

In this case, my theory would have serious flaw, because I assumed that Greek L13S are put into K338(j) label. If K340(g) is Interwar (1927) model, obviously different than WWI-era Yugoslav (and Greek) L13S guns, specific beute number is mandatory.

Cheers, Edge

PS - Info from Adolpheit: only 8 pcs of K336(i) used by Germans. These were actually test-series production guns (after few prototypes) so its not surprising that only 3 is still "fit for duty" in 1944.