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my mistake with the yardage, still though it is the NFL and these guys do have pride as well. im sure the pack isnt going to come out there and gift him that record, and if they have a good game, he probably doesnt make it to 2k. then what? still a great season, but not even in the top 5 all time? it doesnt mean anything really, he's still badass. just not that big a gap. i dont really watch that much viking football, but against the texans he did nothing in the air. is he one dimensional? a complete back? i mean people just on a whim throw him on the pedestal, and wow how amazing, his knee is bionic he healed in 2 weeks. i mean take it easy.

steven jackson with a decent offensive line would be lethal i agree he's got plenty of tread left. he made a crappy line look decent for a long time too, i guess he's one of the few greats in the history of the game

There's this fallacy that you can just "plug in" HBs from lower rounds and have them do as good as guys in higher rounds that turn out to be good. While some do, it is no less/more possible with HBs than any other position in Football.

Here are the Top HBs this year by yardage and what round they were drafted in:

How you could even compare CJ2K and him is ridiculous. No doubt CJ had a historic season, but AP has been on top every year he has been in the league. Well You could give a damn good arguement. He's been the est for several years so hes nothing like cj2k, AP continues to dominate.Your acting like this is his first year on top. And what exactly is your criteria to get into the hall, to say that more of the top running backs this year will get in. The Hall is the best of the best, and yeah AP deserves to be in it, but as of right now we cant tell who else will be because of people like CJ2K. We need to see continued dominance as AP has done. And this is coming from a bears fan. AP is a machine.

chris johnson can be compared to adrain peterson. they both have finished in the in the to p10 in most in yards almost every year they have played except for one. peterson is very explosive but not more explosive than johnson. At this stage in their careers I would have to take johnson as the better blocker and receiver. both have produced with no production from the qb. people forget that when johnson ran for 2000 kerry collins and vince young split time , there was no 1000 yard receiver and teams constantly stacked the box. the titans finished 8-8 also(not a losing team).he set the single season yards from scrimmage record. Chris johnson got no mvp votes for gaining over 2000 yards. That never happened in nfl history before. That year's mvp voting showed that the media should have no involvement in the process

Lets look at some of the worst backs in the league. Like Trent Richardson for example. The gap between him and AP is a lot smaller than the gap between Rodgers and Gabbert. QB's just have a larger range of performance. AP might gain 5.0 yards per carry for his career. A marginal back might gain 3.7

Aaron Rodgers will put up 45 to 6, 39 to 8. Tom Brady will put up 50 to 8, 36 to 4. What do some of these sorry azz Cardinals QB's put up? I'd imagine it's horrid.

Rodgers and Brady are miles ahead of the competition compared to AP being ahead of the backs.

Lets look at some of the worst backs in the league. Like Trent Richardson for example. The gap between him and AP is a lot smaller than the gap between Rodgers and Gabbert. QB's just have a larger range of performance. AP might gain 5.0 yards per carry for his career. A marginal back might gain 3.7

Aaron Rodgers will put up 45 to 6, 39 to 8. Tom Brady will put up 50 to 8, 36 to 4. What do some of these sorry azz Cardinals QB's put up? I'd imagine it's horrid.

Rodgers and Brady are miles ahead of the competition compared to AP being ahead of the backs.

Yes. He might be the worst featured back in the league. To average 3.6 yards per carry is terrible. He has no explosion what so ever. Still the gap between him and AP is much smaller than the one between Rodgers and Gabbert.

how close? how much of a gap? would arian plus a 1st round pick equal peterson?

just curious

The gap is pretty big because of the versatility.

He can run over people, he can outrun people, he can make people miss, he can block and hes got decent hands, is so-so with ball security. Only other top RBs I can think of that can do all those things well are MJD and Ray Rice but neither do of those many (if any) of those things better than AP. All the other talent backs in the league are very strong in an area(s) but are less than stellar at other attributes.

Yes. He might be the worst featured back in the league. To average 3.6 yards per carry is terrible. He has no explosion what so ever. Still the gap between him and AP is much smaller than the one between Rodgers and Gabbert.

3.6 yards per carry isnt terrible at all... That in theory means that in 3 carries youre averaging a first down. Here are some all time great RBs who had around the same YPA in their career:

Jerome Bettis (HOF)
John Riggins (HOF)
Eddie George
Rudi Johnson

Also, the Browns have a non-threatening passing game allowing opponents to stack against the run. Not to mention they have issues at both Guard spots. Trent Richardson is hardly one of the worst featured back in the league. He had a very strong rookie season.

Starting RBs worse than Richardson:
Anyone on the Colts roster
Anyone on the Pats roster
Anyone on the Packers roster
Anyone on the Broncos roster
Anyone on the Lions roster
Anyone on the New Orleans roster
Anyone on the Jets roster
Anyone on the San Diego roster
Anyone on the Carolina roster
Anyone on the Miami roster
Anyone on the Buffalo roster
Anyone on the Pittsburgh roster
Anyone on the Bengals roster
Anyone on the Arizona roster
Anyone on the Giants roster
Anyone on the Dallas roster

Yes it is. It's gotta be one of the worst in the league for a featured back. Might be.

Good job, you managed to reply to roughly 1/3 of the argument presented to you.

Also Michael Turner and had the same average and Darren McFadden had a worse average. Thats 2 feature backs worse statistically, despite the fact that they both have better OL and have many more years of NFL experience

Good job, you managed to reply to roughly 1/3 of the argument presented to you.

Also Michael Turner and had the same average and Darren McFadden had a worse average. Thats 2 feature backs worse statistically, despite the fact that they both have better OL and have many more years of NFL experience

Michael turner average the same ypc. Congrats T-Rich 1 featured back this year was worst than you.

Michael turner average the same ypc. Congrats T-Rich 1 featured back this year was worst than you.

Did you mean worse? And did you miss the Darren McFadden part?

And since when is YPA the only way to evaluate if a RB is any good? Are you going to tell me that Michael Turner and Darren McFadden (when healthy) are the worst 2 RBs in the NFL? And are you going to say that CJ Spiller is just as good as Adrian Peterson? Or that the backups for Baltimore and Philadelphia are better than Ray Rice and Lesean McCoy?

Again, I provided numerous pieces of evidence and your argument revolves around you ignoring most of them...

Youre either trolling or have the mental capacity of an autistic goldfish

And since when is YPA the only way to evaluate if a RB is any good? Are you going to tell me that Michael Turner and Darren McFadden (when healthy) are the worst 2 RBs in the NFL? And are you going to say that CJ Spiller is just as good as Adrian Peterson? Or that the backups for Baltimore and Philadelphia are better than Ray Rice and Lesean McCoy?

Again, I provided numerous pieces of evidence and your argument revolves around you ignoring most of them...

Youre either trolling or have the mental capacity of an autistic goldfish

No ypc is probably the best way to evaluate runners. That and total rushing yards. Efficiency flat out matters. Yes as a pure runner Pierce is better than Rice. He is faster and stronger. More explosive. Rice starts though because of his exceptional durability, receiving and blocking and he's a great runner too. Pierce however is the type of back who given his chances can go over 1600 yards.