Im with you 🙂 (well actually Im with everyone voting how they feel they should). I don’t take this as an ‘endorsement’ as is being proclaimed, just as I said last night an acceptance of ‘the lesser of two bad choices’ and a vow to fight for better ones going forward.

You’re right, it isn’t an endorsement in the traditional sense but very little Bernie has done in this campaign has been traditional. It’s why I have the utmost respect for the man and his courage, it’s why as I sort out my feelings this morning after seeing him live on MJoe, I’m left with an overwhelming sense of melancholy for what might have been.

I knew this day would come, and maybe it’s just a step in the disappointment process we all have to go through but I don’t feel like saying much more today.
My apologies to nomandates, I tipped and rec’d where I could but that place is NOT where I want to be today. Today is my day for quiet reflection, so I’ll catch everyone here tomorrow. Love this place, Peace.

I didn’t know this day would come, dear occupant. And for me it has not come – at least not yet.
Bernie is a once in a lifetime candidate.
He’s “the best, Jerry, the best”.
There are two realities (probably many more than that).there’s Bernie’s reality which is that because of selfishness and greed and shortsightedness of the current powers that be, our economy is only working for the top.
That’s the truth whether or not the people who, through political corruption pull the strings, accept it or not.
That’s the reason, IMO, Brexit succeeded because these huuuuge transfers of wealth are apparently happening in Europe too.

The people who work in the media are by and large ignorant of economics. And say stupid things.
They can’t understand that Bernie has fought for and will continue to fight for what he believes in.
When Bernie was on Morning Joe this morning, a highly paid MSNBC person said that Bernie and Donald Trump have the same views on TRADE. That simply is not true,
This lady on MSNBC said both Trump and Bernie would slap tariffs on imports.
Bernie would not do that. He understands that tariffs were partly responsible for the great depression.
Bernie would support fair trade agreements in which the differences in wages between developed countries and developing countries wouldn’t be arbitraged by companies who move to capture and profit from the difference between a $15.00 per hour wage here and a $2.00 wage somewhere else.
There are ways to write trade laws so that those differences are not stolen by the “shifty” companies who want to take advantage of it.

Bernie is so remarkable. He really doesn’t care about himself in this and in spite of the idiocy of some of those interviewing him, he carries on.
I too, don’t go to that other web site.
I dared to point out a few days ago some unfortunate truths about their favored candidate’s foreign policy and I was flagged.
I won’t acknowledge the flag by clicking on the “I was bad and I acknowledge it box”, so they can keep their alternate “reality”.

Others can carry the burden of speaking for Bernie there.
But I’m out 🙂

And there’s no reason for you to have to endure them either.

I will be calling candidates who Bernie supports.

I take heart from Nina Turner and Tulsi Gabbard and others with so much courage.

It makes me feel good to talk to people in upcoming Congressional races and find so many people who love Bernie and are disgusted with the Democratic establishment.

I misspoke in the comment above when I said Brexit was about the angst over globalization – it was – but it was pushed by the right wing over immigration and probably succeeded partly on that basis.
But it is also a wake up call that the left has not yet clearly articulated, apparently, according to an article that was linked to today on TPW. That neoliberal globalization has devastated working people across Europe just like here.
And I hope that the left takes the lead on articulating the way forward in Europe rather than allowing the right wing to push their anti immigration memes which is dangerous…..

I read that Corbyn might be forced out because of this. Wouldn’t that be a kick in the ass, if he has to take the fall for EU policies that he opposed, and the New Labour faction that supported them was able to get back into the party leadership as a result?

EXACTLY, I DO NOT EQUATE “I WILL VOTE FOR HER” WITH “I ENDORSE HER”. I HAVE NOT YET HEARD THE LATTER PASS HIS LIPS, MUCH AS MSNBC TRIED TO CORRAL HIM INTO THIS MORNING, AND IT SURE SEEMED HE WAS ANNOYED AT THE CONTINUED EFFORT TO PUT WORDS IN HIS MOUTH. PLEASE PROVIDE A LINK IF I HAVE MISSED SOMETHING. I CERTAINLY IN ANY OTHER CIRCUMSTANCE VOTE MY CONSCIENCE, BUT WITH TRUMP AND SCOTUS ON THE LINE, THAT IS NOT A LUXURY I FEEL CAN BE ENJOYED.

HE IS A WISE MAN AND AS WAS SAID YESTERDAY, AN EXCELLENT POKER PLAYER. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING, AND AS THIS EVOLVES IT MAY WELL BE THAT HE WILL WIELD MUCH MORE POWER IN THE SENATE THAN AS POTUS, WITH THE ADDED BONUS OF BEING A VERY FIERY THORN IN QUEENIE’S GREEDY ENTITLED PAW.

MY CONCERN IS HER CHOICE OF VP, SHOULD SHE BE INDICTED AND CONVICTED WHICH IS LOOKING MORE AND MORE POSSIBLE. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE WARREN STAY EXACTLY WHERE SHE IS, THINGS CAN FLIP ON A DIME, BUT SHE REALLY HAS NOT SHOWN MUCH INTEREST, AND WE NEED A VOICE AGAINST WALL STREET THAT CANNOT BE MUZZLED.

A DAY OF SOLEMN REFLECTION IS CALLED FOR, THEN LET’S GET BACK TO BERNIE’S PLEAS TO KEEP UP THE OUTRAGE. I’M SURE “NOT READY TO MAKE NICE”.

I WISH I COULD, I KNOW IT IS DIFFICULT ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE READING ON SMARTPHONES.

THOSE WHO RECOGNIZE ME FROM DKOS, WERE AWARE THAT I HAVE VERY LOW VISION, ACTUALLY LEGALLY BLIND, AND I HAVE TO ZOOM 400% IN TO JUST READ EVERYONE ELSE’S POSTS, BUT I CAN’T POST IF I CAN’T SEE WHAT I AM WRITING, IF I THEN MAKE TYPOS, THE GRAMMAR POLICE ARE ALL OVER ME.

SO, PLEASE FORGIVE ME, IT IS A DISABILITY ISSUE AND THE ONLY WAY I CAN PARTICIPATE. I AM VERY ILL, WITH MANY GENETIC PROBLEMS ON HOSPICE, BEDBOUND AND THE PHONE/INTERNET IS MY ONLY LINK TO THE WORLD. I UNDERSTAND NETIQUETTE AND AM NOT SHOUTING.

Thanks for overcoming all the obstacles and staying involved @milagro1313! I am still try to darken the text on the comments box so hopefully that will make a difference. If you have any suggestions I would love to hear from your viewpoint how we could make the site more accessible for you!

VERY NICE SITE! I TOO AM A FAN OF VAN GOGH. I’VE BEEN THINKING OF SOME IDEAS IN THIS REGARD FOR ALL “DIFFERENTLY” ABLED PERSONS TOO. HOW BEST CAN I COMMUNICATE WITH YOU ABOUT THESE MATTERS, I STILL AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO NEGOTIATE THE SITE….

HI MILAGRO
THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. I TOO WILL ANSWER IN ALL CAPS ANYTIME I WRITE. WE WANT YOU CONNECTED HERE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL NEST OF HOPE. ONE SILLY QUESTION-WHICH TYPEFACE WORKS BEST…SANS SERIF OR SERIF FOR EASE OF READING?

THANK YOU RAGGEDY ANN, CHASING ORION, AND ALL WHO ARE HELPING ME FIND A NICE POLITICAL HOME. I APPRECIATE THE CAPS AND THE QUESTION OF SANS OR SERIF. FOR ME, MANY AGING BOOMERS , MOST VISUALLY IMPAIRED PERSONS AND DISABILITY ACTIVISTS I KNOW RECOMMEND SANS, CLEANER AND LESS DISTRACTING. I DO HAVE MY INCOMING MAIL SET FOR A GOOD FONT STYLE BUT ALAS, IT WON’T LET ME SET THE SIZE. IT WAS A GOOD QUESTION. USUALLY IN INITIAL POLITICAL, BUSINESS AND PERSONAL CONTACTS I EXPLAIN FIRST, THIS TIME I FORGOT. I KNOW THIS SITE IS A NEW AND EVOLVING PROCESS, AND THAT MORNING I SIGNED UP THE REGISTRATION PROCESS WAS NOT WORKING WELL FOR ME, BUT THANKS TO KIOWA, THAT WAS PROMPTLY RESOLVED, HOWEVER DISTRACTION IS NOW A CONSTANT COMPANION. I DO BEAR RESPONSIBILITY FOR PROVIDING EDUCATION TO ENGENDER UNDERSTANDING AND THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR KIND PATIENCE.

YES, THE CONVERSATION IS DECADES OLD… WHEN I WAS IN HEALTH CARE ADMINISTRATION, SANS WAS THE SET FONT COMPANY WIDE. I THINK MANY PEOPLE FROM A CERTAIN GENERATION LEARNED TO USE TIMES NEW ROMAN AS STANDARD, (OLD TYPEWRITER KEYS I LEARNED ON COME TO MIND) IT IS A HARD HABIT TO BREAK. WE ALSO WERE TOLD WE COULD NOT CORRESPOND WITH SUBSCRIBERS AT OVER A 7TH GRADE READING LEVEL… NOW ONE SHOULD CONSULT AN ATTORNEY TO READ A MEMBER POLICY MANUAL OR BENEFIT STATEMENT. FOLLOW THE MONEY. BUT, THAT IS ANOTHER POLITICAL POLICY DISCUSSION FOR LATER, PERHAPS.

I agree. I watched Cenk interview Van Jones and it was quite fascinating. I could see both of them and their principles very clearly. Van Jones feels like Bernie about Trump. He feels that movements need to gear up and get into the streets to push Hillary. He said that Obama DID react to the pressure in his later years (the first years he had none.) But when they DID gear up it was after the repubs had had their own “street actions” (tea party) and the REPUBS have responded to that astro turf base.

I like Bernie’s idea of pushing people into the political world and making a difference in the future.

Regardless it looks like the street will be the place to be for the next decade at least and maybe by then we will all understand that politics is about forever not just elections.

It is unnerving watching the way his statement about voting for her is being contorted into something that has cosmic significance…the sheer desperation in the media and within the ranks of her disillusioned supporters is palpable…

As it stands now the choice is between Hillary or the crazy guy…what exactly was Bernie supposed to say exactly? Any of us who still only have that choice in November may be forced to vote for her even though we detest her policies. Is that an endorsement?

And I will be honest: I most fervently wish Bernie had not said he will be voting for Hillary Clinton.

He did not really have to say it; and it took more wind out of my sails from previously supporting everything about a candidate in a way no Hillarybot has ever been able to do.

I’m neither naive, nor a purist. But I will never compromise my principles or conscience by voting for someone like Hillary Clinton, and I admit that I am very disappointed Bernie felt any need to say – especially right now – that he is going to vote for her.

Thanks for the clip, LD. I stayed up late watching Brexit news (and checking my retirement plans), so I forgot to watch Morning Joe.

I would imagine TOP heads exploding because Bernie hasn’t followed standard procedures. It’s clear to us he’s not running for POTUS actively as much as he’s not employing much staff, not taking reporters everywhere with him, et, but instead trying to get colleagues in Congress and other places to stand up, take a risk, and get real stuff done.

When there are fascists about, it’s the job of everyone on the left to join together into a Popular Front to defeat them. As a good socialist, Bernie understands this.
Just ask the communists and anarchists in Spain, or the Abraham Lincoln Brigade, members of which did not, in fact, spend the years before the Spanish Civil War lauding the Spanish monarchy.

Something else to remember: the chances of the Democrats taking the Senate is deeply tied to Hillary Clinton’s performance at the top of the ticket in November.

And if the Democrats take the Senate, one Bernie Sanders (I-VT) becomes the Chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee. The level of influence he would have over federal policy from that seat would be vastly greater than anything he has been able to do so far.

Bernie Sanders is a real pro as a legislator, and it’s what he’s dedicated his adult life to doing. Does Bernie Sanders want to be the Chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee? Oh hell yeah he does!

I grew up in SE Mass myself, but the other, northern end of Bristol County. Interesting place – culturally, linguistically, and geographically closer to Rhode Island than to Boston. Ever see this American English Dialect Map? You can see how Bristol County is in with Providence/the North instead of Boston/Northern New England.

Most of my growing up was in Somerset, across the river from Fall River. Yes we spoke Providencese rather then Bostonish. No final Rs but also none of those broad As. Our “Parking Cars in Harvard Yard” sounds quite different

The reason for that is pretty clear, if you think about it: Bristol County faces the Narragansett Bay. The first settlement was on the Taunton River, which drains into the Bay. Transport was much more by ship than overland in that era, so communities that shard a water body were much more connected. And since the area was part of Plymouth Colony rather than Mass Bay Colony, there wasn’t a strong political connection to Boston.

Sorry to say I’m not getting why Trump is necessarily a “Greater Evil” than Hillary Clinton, or why embracing yet again the demonstrably failed voting strategy of lesser-evilism is something I should support. Peter Gaffney’s outstanding essay, posted this morning on Salon, provides a compelling argument as to why progressive voters should resist Bernie’s call to rally round the Demo flag.

I would never vote for a sad, corrupt to the bone, barely non-Trumpian Demo compromise like Hillary Clinton – especially not when that vote would only help perpetuate the fiction of difference, vs. protest voting the reality of real revolution.