Video: Mother weeps over family murdered by illegal alien gang member

posted at 6:14 pm on July 21, 2008 by Allahpundit

Her husband? Dead. Two sons? Dead. The suspect? Convicted of two felonies as a juvenile and accused earlier this year of gang membership and weapons possession (the case was never prosecuted), with ICE blissfully unaware thanks to San Francisco’s sanctuary city policy. There’s nothing else I can say to prepare you for it so I won’t try. Except this: The next time you see our pal Spitty or one of his amnesty fellow travelers sniffing at the barest attempts to deport criminal illegal aliens, remember that this is the price he’s willing to pay in the interests of racial solidarity. And any who disagree with him henceforth shall be known as “Uncle Toms.”

Read Cinnamon Stillwell’s piece in the Chronicle for background, replete with procedural context. No wonder Newsom hasn’t contacted Mrs. Bologna; how could he ever look her in the eye? Your quote of the day: “Federal agents told the Chronicle that they were told about Ramos when he was arrested as an adult but did not hold him for deportation proceedings. They can’t explain why.” Click the image to watch.

This woman’s grief broke my heart and I cried as I watch her grieve. I hope she sues SF. Maybe having a huge lawsuit and having to pay out money will be what it takes to make a change. Protecting US citizens certainly doesn’t mean a thing to sanctuary cities.

Gavin, Nancy all of the elite libs are monsters in my book. They really don’t care about the results of the feel-good policies they put in place to remain in power.
I live in the SF burbs,but I say shut that crap-hole down. Disgusting.

Just moved into the Bay Area. The smug level here is enough to choke Zombie Reagan. I would fear for my car if I put a conservative bumper sticker of any type on it. You can read about it, but until you’re here, you can’t get the full effect.

I’d like to think that after this tragedy, the clowns in City Hall will rethink their sanctuary policy… but I know they won’t. They’ll keep finding some (irrational) rationale to justify this b.s. WE might see it for what it is, but we’re just ignorant bigots who can’t empathize with the plight of the downtrodden indigenous peoples, especially the ones that do the assassination jobs that Americans won’t do.

remember that this is the price he’s willing to pay in the interests of racial solidarity.

No, this is the price he’s willing to have the rest of us pay. Geraldo Rivera, Gavin Newsom and the rest of the open borders elitists live in mansions in gated communities or in homes with private security; they get driven around in limos, or have security escorts. They are well protected from scum like this illegal alien sociopath –that’s why they can afford to be so “generous” and “open-minded” — they don’t have to pay the price.

As I understand it, our law enforcement system does not have a legal responsibility to protect the individual citizen from harm. Wouldn’t that be used as a defense by San Francisco against a lawsuit, in spite of the fact the city’s sanctuary policy made her family more vulnerable?

One of the (legitimate) jobs of government is to protect citizens from monsters like that. The boy mayor failed, his policies actually put the citizens at risk, he should be held criminally responsible.

I generally don’t like to see people put on TV when they are in an emotional state, but in this case it is so fitting. Can definitely feel her pain. What a tragedy – compounded because it’s an avoidable tragedy.

No, this is the price he’s willing to have the rest of us pay. Geraldo Rivera, Gavin Newsom and the rest of the open borders elitists live in mansions in gated communities or in homes with private security; they get driven around in limos, or have security escorts. They are well protected from scum like this illegal alien sociopath –that’s why they can afford to be so “generous” and “open-minded” — they don’t have to pay the price.

AZCoyote on July 21, 2008 at 6:42 PM

That, and according to Cinnamon Stillwell, exporting San Fran’s oh-so-benificent problems to the less affluent communities — because, you know, they are so damn open-minded:

Earlier this month, San Bernardino County officials threatened to sue the city of San Francisco for sending a group of Honduran, illegal immigrant, juvenile crack dealers to group homes in the city of Yucaipa without notification. Eight of them simply walked away from the unsecured group homes and only one has been recaptured. Officials later acknowledged that this wasn’t the first time San Francisco had unloaded criminal illegal immigrants onto San Bernardino County. In fact, Yucaipa has seen a rise in violent crime in accordance with the influx of foreign offenders to its group homes in recent years.

As I understand it, our law enforcement system does not have a legal responsibility to protect the individual citizen from harm. Wouldn’t that be used as a defense by San Francisco against a lawsuit, in spite of the fact the city’s sanctuary policy made her family more vulnerable?

a capella on July 21, 2008 at 6:46 PM

I am not sure about this. I would think that the City of San Francisco would have some type of liability for not enforcing laws that would have kept this thug off the streets.

What really irks me about these things is you always get the apologists trotting out canards like ‘Illegal Aliens Undocumented Victims commit crime at a rate far lower than the general population’…Always one of The Spitter’s favs. But the point is, at least to me, if this toilet bug wasn’t here, it wouldn’t have happened. This crime wouldn’t have happened. Maybe the victims would have died in a car crash the next day. Tragic things do happen…but preventable ones…Jesus…

Just moved into the Bay Area. The smug level here is enough to choke Zombie Reagan. I would fear for my car if I put a conservative bumper sticker of any type on it. You can read about it, but until you’re here, you can’t get the full effect.

Buford Gooch on July 21, 2008 at 6:36 PM

I grew up in the Bay Area and moved to Arizona in 1993 (when I was 29) and I can honestly say I don’t miss that area one bit with the exception of its natural beauty and the outdoor opportunities it provides.

I am however concerned as many more from California are moving to AZ they (unfortunately) are bringing their rabid form of liberalism with them.

Also, I don’t know if other HA readers caught the information in the Stillwell piece about SF having a budget deficit of $338 million dollars, I did and it doesn’t surprise me in the least. SF and the State of California in general being an entitlement nanny state are constantly in the red when it comes to their budgets, that’s what happens when you over burden businesses with employee entitlements and play enabler to your citizens instead of insisting they do their part to be productive and law abiding citizens that put into the system instead of sucking it dry.

It’s also proof that socialism doesn’t work, yet the left-tards will never admit it no matter how much reality slaps them upside their empty skulls!

Even on a local level, there’s some indication that people are getting fed up with the city’s insistence on emphasizing ideology over public safety. In a local CBS poll, 79 percent of respondents agreed that San Francisco should “turn over convicted illegal immigrants for deportation.”

At least there’s hope. If 79% of the whackos in San Fran are fed up with sanctuary city policies, then there’s still hope that we can change the system.

I just heard her on the radio — heart wrenching. Unfortunately, I doubt if he will be charged with the death penalty. SF is well, SF. The DA did say she would file cop killers as DP cases but she reneged on that already.

Brit Hume reported tonight that one of the justifications San Francisco has used to become a sanctuary city is that otherwise the illegal aliens of the town would be afraid to call 911 in an emergency for fear of being deported!?! The blood of these three men is directly on the hands of the morons who run that city and their sick, twisted, irrational excuse for logic. Gavin Newsome is either too cowardly to apologize to this poor woman, or he is too evil to realize how at fault he is…

Newsome and the rest of the city stupivisors need to be held and charged as co conspirators & accessories to this triple murder. Or at the very least every mayor or city stupidvisors since 1989 who voted in favor of sanctuary policies should be sued personally so they have to pay out of there own pocket. That means you start with difi that crooked witch and work down the food change.

The next time you see our pal Spitty or one of his amnesty fellow travelers sniffing at the barest attempts to deport criminal illegal aliens, remember that this is the price he’s willing to pay in the interests of racial solidarity.

I’m not in favor of letting criminals off the hook, but I really don’t buy this argument (or headline). That’s like saying, “Mother weeps over family murdered by abused child whose mother wanted to abort him but couldn’t.” Or “Mother weeps over dead son killed by handgun accident.” Or “Mother weeps over son killed by tainted drugs bought illegally.” Just because an “if not for” winds up with someone dead, that doesn’t mean the policy is automatically bad. You could argue for handgun banishment, abortion-on-demand, drug legalization, and drug illegalization with such arguments. Anecdotes, however tragic, shouldn’t dictate policy. Wider trends should.

Just because an “if not for” winds up with someone dead, that doesn’t mean the policy is automatically bad. You could argue for handgun banishment, abortion-on-demand, drug legalization, and drug illegalization with such arguments.

Or, as we’ve all seen the last few years, against the Iraq War. Don’t resort to Cindy Sheehan-level arguments.

Just because an “if not for” winds up with someone dead, that doesn’t mean the policy is automatically bad… Anecdotes, however tragic, shouldn’t dictate policy. Wider trends should.

calbear on July 21, 2008 at 7:54 PM

I see, so when a rapist is released after 1.5 years only to rape and murder a second victim, it is wrong to say that “if not for” the fact that the court system failed to properly penalize the dirt bag for the first crime, the victim would still be alive today. There’s that sick, twisted liberal logic again.

I hold Newsom and the leaders of that rogue city responsible for every murder committed by those criminals they shield from justice. The mayor and his cohorts are just as guilty of murder as that unter-simian gang member. When are we going to stand up for ourselves and stop being such cowards? Until we do that, we are sheep waiting to be slaughtered.

Truly heartbreaking. Ramos should spend the rest of his days at the bottom of a deep, dark, damp dungeon.

As for the spitty link, that clip of Michelle doing the Factor make me long for those days last summer when a real conservative was sitting at a national desk stating her unvarnished opinion. Those days are gone.

I see, so when a rapist is released after 1.5 years only to rape and murder a second victim, it is wrong to say that “if not for” the fact that the court system failed to properly penalize the dirt bag for the first crime, the victim would still be alive today. There’s that sick, twisted liberal logic again.

No. Just because one thing isn’t sufficient for another doesn’t mean they’re mutually exclusive. You might call such logic sick and twisted (because you sickly twist it), but it’s actually basic, elementary logic. And, by the way, not arresting someone for crossing the border illegally is not the same as giving some a light sentence for committing rape. Just so you know.

In the wake of the murder of Jamiel Shaw Jr in Los Angeles, allegedly by an illegal alien gang member, now comes this outrageous news out of San Francisco.

On June 22, a family of three; Tony Bologna (48) and his sons, Michael (20) and Matthew(16)were gunned down in cold blood as they drove home from a bar-b-que. The reason? Their car had momentarily gotten in the way of another car making a left-hand turn. The accused murderer? An illegal alien by the name of Edwin Ramos (21) a native of El Salvador and member of the notorious Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) gang, arguably the most violent and vicious in the nation.

Ramos entered the country illegally with his family when he was 13. In the past 8 years, he has had several run-ins with the law including two juvenile felony convictions. On one occasion, he was busted for his part in a gang assault on a bus. He has also been arrested for the attempted robbery of a pregnant woman.

As Ramos went through the juvenile justice sysyem, he was never turned over to ICE.

Recently, it was disclosed that San Francisco, which proclaims itself a sanctuary city and has spent tens of thousands of dollars to advertise that fact, was shipping juvenile illegal alien offenders out of the city to holding homes-from which they usually escaped-rather than turn them over to ICE.

Bologna’s widow, Danielle, is tearfully begging the DA’s Office to seek the death penalty for Ramos, which is not likely since DA Kamala Harris has publicly vowed never to seek the death penalty for anyone.

So this is San Francisco, under left-wing mayor Gavin Newsome (D), a city that welcomes illegal aliens, but wants no military presence-no recruiters, no Naval ships-nothing. Now the two major cities of California, LA, under Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and San Francisco, under Gavin Newsome, are trying to outdo each other in protecting illegal alien gang members who are murdering their own citizens.

And guess who the two leading candidates are to be the next Governor of California? Gavin Newsome and Antonio Villaraigosa.

I hold Newsom and the leaders of that rogue city responsible for every murder committed by those criminals they shield from justice. The mayor and his cohorts are just as guilty of murder as that unter-simian gang member. When are we going to stand up for ourselves and stop being such cowards? Until we do that, we are sheep waiting to be slaughtered.

DO SOMETHING NOW!

Claypigeon on July 21, 2008 at 8:20 PM

+ 1

I can’t bear to think what this poor woman is going through.
I for one am going to exorcise my 2nd amendment rights and buy a gun and take some lessons. Maybe even get a permit to carry license. As I see it, I am the very first line of defense for my family.

The federalist argument works both ways. Yes, states should get to make laws in those areas where they have traditionally held sway and also those areas where they don’t have much impact on other states. But when the law in question is in areas that have traditionally been held by the federal government and one state’s decision impacts other states, states and cities should not be allowed to be lone rangers. While I usually oppose creating new concepts for the Constitution like the left does, I think it would be appropriate in cases where cities and states attempt to subvert legitimate federal authority as with immigration. Sanctuary city laws could thus be declared unconstitutional.

Wanting Sanctuary city laws to be declared unconstitutional is a more moderate position than my strong support for Baker v Carr, since I’m not sure where the SC got the power to make such a decision from the text of the Constitution. On the other hand, what were the practical alternatives to Baker v Carr–civil war in states? Conversely as Sanctuary City laws became more extreme, they approach sedition and even civil war. In light of the suffering of Danielle Bologna, we may wish to measure SF sanctuary city law against South Carolina’s obnoxiousness in starting the battle of Fort Sumter.

If there is any justice in the world then Gavin Newsom would be found guilty of aiding and abetting this murderer and others, be forced to spend a great many years in prison and be required to watch this and other recordings of the victims that have suffered from a direct result of his actions.

This case had enough death – most of a family of citizens – to bring it to the spotlight. What an incredible price to have to pay for the political expediency of some, and not just Newsom, and not just local to SF.

There are crimes committed by illegals all the time, murders, rapes, assaults, all over this country that never get national attention. In some places they don’t even get much in the way of local attention. Sanctuaries are all the rage right now and its not just the self-proclaimed left that make them possible.

It is not an anecdote. People are dead as a result of an illegal alien being allowed to stay in this country. Fact; illegal alien. Fact; three people dead. Fact; sanctuary city. Fact; illegal alien not deported.
Lock and load.

Newsom is getting remarried to an actress. He’s pursuing happiness, while this lady suffers an uncomparable agony.

If there’s one good thing coming out of this, is that she’s determined. I heard her speak on KFI 640 today and she will stop at nothing. Newsom and Villaraigosa can kiss the CA governorship good bye, if this lady is around.

The mayor and city council of San Francisco,the senators and representatives who allow this so-called sanctuary movement to flout federal laws, and the San Francisco County DA should all do the honorable thing and resign for their failure to uphold and enforce the law. They are clearly incompetent,and should not be allowed to hold a job requiring any greater intellectual ability than shoveling s**t on a dairy farm. The San Francisco mayor and council and their congressional enablers are moral lepers.

My hope is that Mrs. Bologna is able to find a good lawyer, and sue them all into destitution. The thought of Mr. Newsom selling pencils on Fisherman’s Wharf, or pleading for quarters from tourists might giver her some much belated comfort.

Then why are you ignoring it? In fact, you are following my logic in getting beyond the case study of one and citing actual arguments rather than resorting to emotional pleas. That’s all I’m calling for: not for sanctuary cities, but for us not to use the arguments of Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore when it comes to this issue.

I feel for this woman..I can’t even imagine how she feels. I think our nation has lost it’s way to sympathize or even empathize with people like this and do something about it. San francisco is just dead any more. I find it odd people want to even visit it. Of course I live close to it and I see nothing big and when I do, it’s all anti war, naked bicyclers, or folsom street nudest gay porn in the streets. Yeah a great vacation spot to take your family!

People who do the stuff those people did, frankly need to be put away. I don’t understand why we keep letting people out that are dangerous.

Though no federal statistics are kept on murders or any other crimes committed by illegal aliens, a number of groups have produced estimates based on data collected from prisons, news reports and independent research.
Twelve Americans are murdered every day by illegal aliens, according to statistics released by Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa. If those numbers are correct, it translates to 4,380 Americans murdered annually by illegal aliens.

But the carnage wrought by illegal alien murderers represents only a fraction of the pool of blood spilled by American citizens as a result of an open border and un-enforced immigration laws.
While King reports 12 Americans are murdered daily by illegal aliens, he says 13 are killed by drunk illegal alien drivers – for another annual death toll of 4,745.

Just because an “if not for” winds up with someone dead, that doesn’t mean the policy is automatically bad… Anecdotes, however tragic, shouldn’t dictate policy. Wider trends should.

calbear on July 21, 2008 at 7:54 PM

Acutally it does mean the policy is bad because it is directly controverting a policy that is ALREADY in place that would have provided for this scum to be plying his sinsiter trade on streets other than those of the US.

Take note, chief, this isn’t a new and wild thing. This very same thing is played out in cities all over the country every day. I’m not suggesting that illegals commit crimes at a higher rate or that they are more vicious or whatever, but the fact that they are still on OUR streets commiting crimes of any kind because of the government not enforcing laws ALREADY ON THE BOOKS is a complete and utter failure.

If there is any justice, one of the other scumbags in prison will beat and stab Ramos to death his first day in the joint since that is the only way any justice will be done since the Feds and California have no desire to observe the rule of law.

I believe in karma and Newsom will get his day where he will regret all the wrongs he has done to the people of San Francisco.
That guy is a jerk and disgusting member of the human race. Must be the marijuana that people elect this clown.

Then why are you ignoring it? In fact, you are following my logic in getting beyond the case study of one and citing actual arguments rather than resorting to emotional pleas. That’s all I’m calling for: not for sanctuary cities, but for us not to use the arguments of Cindy Sheehan and Michael Moore when it comes to this issue.

calbear on July 22, 2008 at 2:41 AM

So you feel that 20-30% of all inmates are illegal is not a trend?
12 murders a day committed by illegals is not a trend?
Well, if you went to Cal, you never took stats…

Do you think for ONE moment that if you (a legal, law abiding citizen) were caught with a legal firearm, you would be sent back out onto the streets and not prosecuted? They would bury you! Yet they let this scum bag illegal immigrant go after being picked up for felony possesion of firearms.

Gavin Newscum ust be stopped, if he becomes the next Gov of Cali, it will be LOST.