man..murray with strong game so far but that goal was weak..his glove hand!

Yeah, that's always going to be his achilles heel, it seems.

I had trouble handling that wrister from Ovie in the first that nearly led to a goal, too. I know Ovie has a helluva shot and all, but if you're an NHL goaltender and the puck hits the inside of your glove, it absolutely can't come back out.

I had hoped last year's problems were from a the rumored hand injury, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Still, though, the rest of his game is great enough that I'll take that one weakness.

Pens look faster than last year and I think that is for two reasons: McKegg is always moving and he is faster than Bonino and Cullen. Secondly, Hagelin is healthy.

Hags has caused them all sorts of problem this game. Just been everywhere. Reminds me of why I laughed when some people claimed he's overpaid.

He might be our best asset for a trade though.

That would be a big mistake considering the increased penalties this year.[/quote]

This roster is far from set. There are holes on the fourth line and Sullivan has been hesitant to use that line much so far. McKegg, while a nice piece is not cutout for full time duty on the third line. Have to factor in that either Sid or Geno are going to miss time and you have to have someone who can take up the minutes. We don't know if McKegg can do so.

If you examine the roster for pieces to move you have to account for what they bring and what their salaries are. IMO Hagelin is the best piece to move. We know what he brings, we know what he can do but you have to remember that he isn't a youngster that has upside. While a good player he is expandable more so than say Guentzel or Sheary. Plus Hagelin would bring more than Sheary could ever hope to.

The Pens will upgrade the center position eventually,when the buying price is in the range that Rutherford feels is right and one piece towards that will be Hagelin.

This roster is far from set. There are holes on the fourth line and Sullivan has been hesitant to use that line much so far. McKegg, while a nice piece is not cutout for full time duty on the third line. Have to factor in that either Sid or Geno are going to miss time and you have to have someone who can take up the minutes. We don't know if McKegg can do so.

If you examine the roster for pieces to move you have to account for what they bring and what their salaries are. IMO Hagelin is the best piece to move. We know what he brings, we know what he can do but you have to remember that he isn't a youngster that has upside.While a good player he is expandable more so than say Guentzel or Sheary. Plus Hagelin would bring more than Sheary could ever hope to.

The Pens will upgrade the center position eventually,when the buying price is in the range that Rutherford feels is right and one piece towards that will be Hagelin.

Not necessarily....The Pens have about $2m in Cap space available. You can find a bottom 6 Center for right around that price without having to give up much salary (Kevin Hayes, Jay Beagle, that Latvian guy in Buffalo).

Although Hagelin's salary plus their available Cap space would be enough to sign Joe Pavelski or John Tavares (not that it will ever happen). If they give up Hagelin, they better get a stud in return.

This roster is far from set. There are holes on the fourth line and Sullivan has been hesitant to use that line much so far. McKegg, while a nice piece is not cutout for full time duty on the third line. Have to factor in that either Sid or Geno are going to miss time and you have to have someone who can take up the minutes. We don't know if McKegg can do so.

If you examine the roster for pieces to move you have to account for what they bring and what their salaries are. IMO Hagelin is the best piece to move. We know what he brings, we know what he can do but you have to remember that he isn't a youngster that has upside.While a good player he is expandable more so than say Guentzel or Sheary. Plus Hagelin would bring more than Sheary could ever hope to.

The Pens will upgrade the center position eventually,when the buying price is in the range that Rutherford feels is right and one piece towards that will be Hagelin.

Not necessarily....The Pens have about $2m in Cap space available. You can find a bottom 6 Center for right around that price without having to give up much salary (Kevin Hayes, Jay Beagle, that Latvian guy in Buffalo).

Although Hagelin's salary plus their available Cap space would be enough to sign Joe Pavelski or John Tavares (not that it will ever happen). If they give up Hagelin, they better get a stud in return.

That's it. I'm officially beating the drum for Hagelin, Jarry and a first for Tavares as our 3C. The STK Line (with no Sid The Kid required). Make it happen GMJR!