I am having trouble figuring out what the first wrong was, much less a second one. Cross-referencing and verifying information (your terms) is how
investigations are conducted.

The first wrong was committed when she published a video documenting a license plate... that was tied to two faces with names who identified
themselves as an FBI agent and a Federal Marshal. The second wrong was committed when you published personal information that could be
cross-referenced as to who the owner of that license plate was.

The information I "published" was public record. It sounds like you have more of a problem with FOIA and with what is available to the public than
you do with me.

A PI also has access to that information... but you won't see him/her publishing it on the internet... because it's supposed to be a professional
tool to be used discretely for investigative puposes only... not to be abused... and doing so is a violation of ethics.

Apparently you've never had some nutjob come knocking on your door after somebody's posted personal information about you on the internet. I have.

Thats exactly why im wondering if this video is even real. This guy doesnt come off as an agent for the government. Hes not clear and concise, he
stumbles over his "lines". He doesnt really present the questions the way he should, He just doesnt present himself as such

Im just not convinced

The video was probably made to show at one of her Hippy Protester Video nights, whilst eating Hommus and Naan Bread.

"Look Guys! This happened to me! Really! Now we can hate the Government more!"

I posted a name (and a very common one at that) associated with a license plate. I did not post the address associated with it. That would have been
wrong and your argument would have a leg to stand on, but I didnt do that. Anyone could have got the info that I posted just from what was on the
youtube video in less than five minutes, just like I did. As I said, your argument is with the FOIA or with the woman who posted the video. Not me.

I am repeating myself now. It seems that we are now going in circles and getting bogged down by semantics (what is a wrong) and general retardedness
(calling me a terrorist), so I think I am done with this. Have a good night.

I posted a name (and a very common one at that) associated with a license plate. I did not post the address associated with it. That would have been
wrong and your argument would have a leg to stand on, but I didnt do that. Anyone could have got the info that I posted just from what was on the
youtube video in less than five minutes, just like I did. As I said, your argument is with the FOIA or with the woman who posted the video. Not me.

I am repeating myself now. It seems that we are now going in circles and getting bogged down by semantics (what is a wrong) and general retardedness
(calling me a terrorist), so I think I am done with this. Have a good night.

Well guess what? It took me less than thirty seconds to find a current address and telephone number for the information you posted.

I have a question. Are those postulating that this video was a fake asserting that the people in the video are imitating law enforcement officers, or
that the woman who created the video knew of real law enforcement officers with ties to the FBI and/or JTTF and simply falsely inserted their names
and IDs into the video?

I ask this because in this post which no one seems to have noticed or
commented on whatsoever, I linked to evidence that the female officer at least is a police officer, and a JTTF liaison to the FBI.

If I am wrong or the evidence is false, I sincerely apologize. I'm just trying to find the truth, as are we all.

Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
Though her constant references to her mother and her job were not for the investigator's benefit; that was to provoke sympathy in whomever watches
the video, trying to instantly cast the investigators as bad guys.

Again, I don't think she has any intentions to harm anyone. I think she was just trying to use the incident to score political points and generate
sympathy for her cause.

I think it is both.

Then again, that could just be my normal suspicion of humanity talking.

She certainly went to length to deflect the question before refusing to answer it.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
One big happy family around here Nikolam. Pass the gravy would ya?

Except everyone is the crazy uncle who believes in conspiracy theories.

Nikolam, all that means is that you fit right in. You're not really a member of ATS until you're accused of being a terrorist or disinformation
agent or just brainwashed in general.

I've been accused of being all 3... all 4 if you count "crazy uncle" too! I don't think I'm very far from Nikolam. It might be we're ALL like
that 'round here...

I dropped the name he gave through a wringer that churns out Nursing License holders in Texas, and only came up with a "Susan Marie Roberts" in
Coleman, TX, and a "Susan Melanie Robertson" in San Antonio. Neither much fits. Could be that she was licensed in a state other than Texas, but with
a reciprocity agreement.

It might be worthwhile for Nikolam to plug the address into Google Earth, and see if anything resembling the camera view shows up. Might be a street
view available, and she DID chase them all the way out to the car for a fair view of the neighborhood.

The information I "published" was public record. It sounds like you have more of a problem with FOIA and with what is available to the public than
you do with me.

A PI also has access to that information... but you won't see him/her publishing it on the internet... because it's supposed to be a professional
tool to be used discretely for investigative puposes only... not to be abused... and doing so is a violation of ethics.

Apparently you've never had some nutjob come knocking on your door after somebody's posted personal information about you on the internet. I have.

[edit on 13/6/2010 by Hedera Helix]

Unless I miss my guess, the information came off of the internet to begin with. Why is it a problem to take something from one part of the 'net, and
drop it onto another part of the 'net? I mean, after all, Nikolam DID scrub the address out of it. The other part of the 'net didn't even do
that.

I dunno. If folks don't want their name transported across the internet, they ought to scrub it off of there to begin with. Since it IS already
there, no additional harm has been done.

You guys in America are lucky , you still live in a democracy , if this would have happened in other countries in Europe it would have been a crime (
exposing the identity of an agent , she even filmed thier badges , not only their faces )

But i like the attitude of the agents ( thou it must have been because of the camera , as i am under the belief that most are arrogant and have a
sense of being superior generated by all those james bond movies...)

if her Neighbors did not report her in Especially if they see a Palestinian flag
in Her Front Side Window ? and for the First thought is Terrorist instead of Freedom Fighter Depends what side your on and how much BS you have
Seen

is becoming a reality when i see the Freedom of Knowledge & Information
is limited to even Shut Down as we see it now happening on Youtube (Violation Violation ) among others Will We be like the Book 1984 and see
someone Winston Smith (media) with his duty of Historical Revisionism

when we see more of this WE Are In the Negative Utopia World as George Orwell 1984 Portrays

The Perfect example of a Country that Plays Like the Book 1984 Would be ................. North Korea

I remember the Apple Computer Company Vision before the Internet
A Computer for Freedom to exchange Vision and Ideas Net Work linking
Not Until 1994 as the internet as we know it GUI Mosaic Gopher to the WWW became a reality

That lady was clearly picking a fight for youtube-cred. Yeah it's completely ridiculous that the friggin FBI came to her door, but just answer the
stupid question and tell them that it's ridiculous! Who cares if you're a mother of five children? So what? Mothers with children can't/have never
comitted acts of violence? Please. She said that like twelve times. I wonder if she yanks the video camera out around Halloween and tries to rile up
the kiddies for more youtube cred. "5 YEAR OLD DRESSED AS SPIDER MAN SPITS ON MY LAWN!!!OMG I'M A MOTHER OF FIVE FROM TEXAS!"

Sorry, this video is completely bogus, on so many levels it's not even funny.

This is merely an A.C.L.U. propaganda piece, it even states at the end it is by the A.C.L.U.

Has anyone claiming this is an actual interview actually watched the entire video?

If they even had an inkling about how the F.B.I. and or J.T.T.F. functioned, they would know this video isn't even believable, nor would it convince
anyone with half a brain.

1) F.B.I. and or J.T.T.F. will not allow themselves to be videoed, while interviewing someone.

2) F.B.I. and or J.T.T.F. do not dress in shabby clothing like that, they dress in suits.

3) F.B.I. and or J.T.T.F. conduct themselves more professionally than those obviously paid actors, who are illegally portraying themselves as Federal
Agents.

They are about as bad actors as those from the television show, "Criminal Minds".

4) F.B.I. and or J.T.T.F. do not ask you if you're planning on committing, or know of someone committing something, based upon a protest, they
conduct investigations, via speaking with your neighbors, your friends, your employers, past relationships, and anyone else, other than you.

5) F.B.I. and or J.T.T.F. do things quite a bit differently than portrayed within this video.

I am going to recommend a few books, and possibly someone within this thread might learn a thing or two, about how the F.B.I. actually does things,
based on real information.

Easy-to-use and fantastically inclusive, this is the book on private investigation, whether you want to establish yourself as a professional or just
use some of the tools of a P.I. for your own business.

You’ll get the low-down on pre-employment research, tenant screening, adoption searches, safeguarding yourself from investigation, and much more.

—Completely revised with all-new chapters on skip tracing and due diligence searches

"In the three years following the September 11th, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Federal Bureau of Investigation hired 2,200 new Special Agents.

But that was out of more than 150,000 applicants, and you can be sure the successful candidates had not only relevant backgrounds, but also
determination and a genuine desire to embark on one of the most coveted, rewarding, and challenging careers in the world.

The FBI Career Guide spells out exactly what the Bureau is looking for in Special Agent candidates, and how to maximize your chances of being selected
from the huge applicant pool.

Joe Koletar, whose own blue-ribbon career at the Bureau is second to none, shows how to get the job—and how to thrive once you’ve got it.

His inside look at the real FBI reveals:

* Smart educational and career decisions to improve your odds of being hired

* How to meet and network with current FBI agents

* What Special Agents do, day-to-day, in different roles and environments

* How undercover investigations, SWAT team operations, and specialty assignments work

* What agents earn, and what benefits they receive

* The prospects for advancement, and some typical (and not so typical) career paths

* How the job may affect your personal and family life

And much more

The FBI Career Guide also reveals the common mistakes applicants make, and shows how to avoid them.

And it gives you detailed information on excelling in the Agent Training Program.

Finally, the book offers profiles of real agents who have gone on to successful post-FBI careers, and will help you lay the groundwork for a rewarding
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I own all three books above, and have studied Government, Law Enforcement, Military, you name it, all about how investigations, the inner-workings,
and elements of what these people do, throughout my "conspiracy theorizing".

The above thread speaks on J. Edgar Hoover in regards to the political blackmail he conducted, as one of the most famous people I know of to have
committed blackmail.

While I am not necessarily defending the F.B.I., neither am I attacking them, but this video is the biggest piece of crap I have ever seen, and this
thread is based on a video which is a lie, completely, nothing against the original poster.

I thought that according to the video the license plate belonged to federal agents? That would mean it is a state vehicle, not personal. We have every
right to look up things like that. If it is a personal vehicle, they were not agents, the video is fake, and they all deserve what they get for trying
to fake that crap. If the plate is real, what are you afraid of? Someone going to a US Marshall office and vandalizing the parking lot?

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