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16:22 #navit: < NavitLogger> test
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16:59 #navit: < Mineque> hello
17:03 #navit: < jandegr> Hi Mineque, do you want to test the new PL map (with city boundaries) ?
17:05 #navit: < Mineque> if you tell me how, and if it possible to test only with demo vehicle
17:06 #navit: < Mineque> because i dont have special device to perform live tests
17:06 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, ^
17:06 #navit: < jandegr> the download link is https://db.tt/oZO2V84t
17:07 #navit: < Mineque> how big?
17:07 #navit: < Mineque> nvm
17:08 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, what do you want to test?
17:08 #navit: < jandegr> can be tested with demo vehicle, it's 345MB
17:09 #navit: < jandegr> it's search related improvements and displays province as well, but I understand no PL'ish
17:19 #navit: < Mineque> damn
17:19 #navit: < Mineque> some download eeror
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17:20 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, ok i'll let you know
17:24 #navit: < jandegr> thx Mineque, the difference is most clear when you serach for a street in a city
17:25 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, how i worked before and how suppossed to work now after fix?
17:25 #navit: < Mineque> i'm not using navit so i might miss the difference
17:27 #navit: < jandegr> choose a town, you should now also see the province it is in, you can tell us if that looks good, it did not show the province before
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17:36 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, ok i will
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17:48 #navit: < bafplus> someone any ideas about opening a external webpage?
17:48 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, ?
17:51 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, district are fine but why i cannot scroll result list?
17:52 #navit: < Mineque> when i choose display results on map i see 30 Piaseczno city in the poland, but can choose only from three on the list
17:52 #navit: < Mineque> ah
17:52 #navit: < Mineque> so for that is down arrow button ;]
17:53 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, so i guess it is working :)
17:54 #navit: < Mineque> working nice
17:54 #navit: < Mineque> i'm impressed about map quality
17:54 #navit: < Mineque> in poland
17:57 #navit: < bafplus> Mineque, i'm making a OSD button that opens the traffic onfo on a website, so i need to make a "link" fromn an OSD button to a website that when clicked the browser opens on that website
17:58 #navit: < Mineque> spawn("command" arguments...) Spawns an external command. Since r4459.
17:58 #navit: < Mineque>
17:58 #navit: < Mineque> i guess you need that
17:59 #navit: < Mineque> and add browser --new-tab url
17:59 #navit: < Mineque> sth like that ;)
18:00 #navit: < tryagain> Are you comfortable in choosing the right Piaseczno city from the list of 30 ones, given the information navit provides in the list. Do you need some additional administrative divison info to distinguish cities?
18:01 #navit: < Mineque> not really
18:01 #navit: < Mineque> because i have in the list 3 piaseczno from one disctrict on top
18:02 #navit: < tryagain> Do you know if we could get some info from osm to distinguish them?
18:02 #navit: < Mineque> seeing commune would nice
18:02 #navit: < Mineque> not sure if right word
18:03 #navit: < Mineque> wait not
18:03 #navit: < Mineque> *no
18:03 #navit: < Mineque> i meant county
18:03 #navit: < Mineque> commune would be bad bad first of all county
18:04 #navit: < jandegr> Mineque go to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative
18:04 #navit: < Mineque> commune wouldn't be bad but first of all county
18:04 #navit: < tryagain> can you point admin_level value from the http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Admin_level#11_admin_level_values_for_specific_countries table
18:04 #navit: < Mineque> sure
18:04 #navit: < Mineque> lvl 6 counties
18:05 #navit: < tryagain> iirc jandegr said they are duplicated
18:06 #navit: < Mineque> i see many pois even tripled
18:06 #navit: < tryagain> ah, "some cities have county status - in OSM their borders have both relations - one as a city and second as a county"
18:06 #navit: < Mineque> yes
18:07 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain without some input from local knowledge I would not have mapped those, that's why we can use local knowledge
18:08 #navit: < tryagain> sure. And that's why i did not included default mappings for all countries two years ago :)
18:09 #navit: < tryagain> "i see many pois even tripled": do you have only one map enabled? Otherwise i'm curious why not all POIS are multipied
18:10 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, single mapset from jandegr
18:10 #navit: < Mineque> but some with different name
18:10 #navit: < Mineque> bad input but osm editors
18:11 #navit: < Mineque> damn wtf with my spelling today
18:11 #navit: < Mineque> *from osm editors
18:12 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, lvl 7 would be also nice if it still be readable in search results
18:12 #navit: < Mineque> municipalities
18:13 #navit: < Mineque> but we could start with just lvl 6 for testing purpose
18:14 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, do you need any other local info? ;)
18:14 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, does spawn works for you?
18:14 #navit: < jandegr> Mineque you 1 item left you can choose, either lvl 6 or 7, you have local knowledge, from the description of 6 or 7 I get not wiser
18:14 #navit: < tryagain> KaZeR read mail
18:15 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, you mean we can choose only one?
18:15 #navit: < tryagain> I guess 3s5cmM could be a solution for Poland
18:16 #navit: < Mineque> tryagain, ?
18:16 #navit: < bafplus> Mineque, not yet...first i have to find the path to explorer or chrome...but there are spaces in foldernames, navit can't handle that
18:17 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, even with escaping slash?
18:18 #navit: < bafplus> yes... /program files/ has a space between the 2 words,....
18:18 #navit: < bafplus> maybe search for some simple snad-alone webbrowser that i can put in the navitfolder...
18:19 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain m is for display only like s and c or does it have an improvement in the search like M as well ?
18:19 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, what abbout quotation marks?
18:19 #navit: < bafplus> same, had the same problem before when using vlc from the program files folder, had to put the stand-alone exe in navit and call that...
18:20 #navit: < Mineque> spawn("'c:\program files\sth\sth.ex' --newtab")
18:20 #navit: < Mineque> yep would work there is already two different quotation marks
18:20 #navit: < Mineque> bafplus, make shortcut at root dir
18:20 #navit: < bafplus> i will test it later, maybe i did domething wrong in the first place...
18:21 #navit: < bafplus> make shortcut and place it in the navit folder and call that to spawn?
18:21 #navit: < bafplus> does that work?
18:21 #navit: < bafplus> hmm...
18:24 #navit: < tryagain> bafplus are you sure navit wont handle spaces? iirc, on desktop windows these shouldn't be a problem (on winCE it seems to be impossible to qoute parameters)
18:24 #navit: < bafplus> i will test later today...
18:28 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr Capital letter will both create a place polygon and set a muniipality name attribute, small letter only set municipality name.
18:28 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, ?
18:30 #navit: < tryagain> Mineque code 3s5cmM means take state name from name of admin_level 4 relation, county name from admin_level 6, municipality name from admin_level 7 and convert admin_level 8 boundary to city boundary
18:32 #navit: < Mineque> uh, ok :)
18:33 #navit: < Mineque> that needs navit change or maptool?
18:33 #navit: < jandegr> mineque it's a maptool change
18:35 #navit: < Mineque> ok, so let me know after new generation of map i'll test it
18:36 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain what is next for poland now, another testmap or do you commit it right away ?
18:38 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr I'm not sure what will happen in case of conflict with m and M suggested municipality name. Will read code a bit...
18:41 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain I will build a new map with 3s5c7M for starters,
18:45 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, maybe we could try with smaller piece that country
18:48 #navit: < jandegr> mineque build of new map is already running, only have PL as a complete pbf
18:49 #navit: < Mineque> pbf?
19:06 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr combining m and M is not a good idea, as then there would be duplicate municipality attribute. I guess we should use different letter for Poland admin_level 8 to be able to use m for admin_level 7 at the same time
19:07 #navit: < Mineque> mPL
19:07 #navit: < Mineque> ;]
19:07 #navit: < Mineque> or have to be single?
19:07 #navit: < Mineque> nvm single only
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19:08 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain I have a 3s5c7M map ready in a few minutes, we can wait then untill mineque tested the new map
19:10 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, i'll around a while so no problem with testing
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19:14 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr this patch (untested) could be the full solution for PL. http://pastebin.com/gw2L1CEv
19:16 #navit: < bafplus> Mineque, spawn doesnt work...don't bother...was just a small idea and way to much fuss to get it working for such a "small" feature...
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19:19 #navit: < jandegr> tryagain I will try it but won't be today
19:19 #navit: < tryagain> ok, np
19:31 #navit: < jandegr> mineque poland3s5c7M.bin https://db.tt/NrhAuTs3
19:32 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, downloading
19:33 #navit: < jandegr> mineque we will try with the patch from tryagain if you need even more levels
19:33 #navit: < Mineque> we'll see with above
19:48 #navit: < Mineque> jandegr, nice!
19:49 #navit: < Mineque> now it's easier to different results
20:11 #navit: < jandegr> Mineque I will try to build another one with the patch from tryagain in the next few days and then tryagain can commit the chosen one.
20:12 #navit: < Mineque> sure, just let me know when you'll have new bin
20:17 #navit: < jandegr> we are still looking for tester for austria, luxembourg, iceland and ireland see https://db.tt/9yKhzHwe for download links of testmaps
20:34 #navit: < Mineque> i guess someone for germany could know sth about austria and luxembourg
20:35 #navit: < Mineque> afair here is sb from ireland
20:39 #navit: < jandegr> that's all for today folks, bye
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