“I’ve seen this man’s home, I’ve seen where he lives. You can’t tell me you don’t have $50,000 you can pay out of your own pocket.” ... New Light also owns a Hawker jet valued at $2 million and an aviation hangar valued at $3 million.

Praise the lard.

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There is no opinion so absurd that a preacher could not express it.-- Bernie Katz

Didn't the Catholic Church have trouble with this long ago with selling indulgences? Bottom line...why pay for it yourself when the sheep will gladly do it. Incredible how stupid some people must be. What does a preacher do with a helicopter? Does he shoot wild hogs from it in Texas for fun?

Gotta side with MM on this one, Neo. The issue wasn't just that they were making a tower that supposedly could get to heaven. It was that they were making the tower in order to do so. The (im)practicality of making such a tower isn't the point; the point is that Jealous couldn't abide by anyone else presuming to rise to His level.

"He was afraid of a stone tower being built... no way he wants people flying around in machines"

That is not in agreement with what I said.

In the story, Jealous didn't particularly care about the tower itself (ie. the accomplishments of Man). It was the fact that Man was trying to become god-like in some way. It was the intent of Man that he was punishing, not the accomplishment itself. So unless we're flying around in machines in order to become like 'ol Jealous, they two situations aren't really analogous.

the point is that Jealous couldn't abide by anyone else presuming to rise to His level.

Geez, you make it sound so petty.

Perhaps the most petty aspect of it all was ensuring that from that point on, it would be increasingly unlikely that anyone would be able to read and learn about Christianity from the original documents, but would have to rely on translations that may or may not have errors in them.

Kind of a weird thing to do for a god that wants us all to find him and worship him in the correct way.

Since this has derailed into a discussion on the Tower of Bable, how come in Genesis 10 (5, 20, 31), everyone had languages according to their own tribe, but by Genesis 11-1 "...the whole world had one language and a common speech…" which Yahweh had to un-do?

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There is no opinion so absurd that a preacher could not express it.-- Bernie Katz

the point is that Jealous couldn't abide by anyone else presuming to rise to His level.

Geez, you make it sound so petty.

Perhaps the most petty aspect of it all was ensuring that from that point on, it would be increasingly unlikely that anyone would be able to read and learn about Christianity from the original documents, but would have to rely on translations that may or may not have errors in them.

Kind of a weird thing to do for a god that wants us all to find him and worship him in the correct way.

Well, Anfauglir, if you think learning Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic will give you a kick start towards faith in God I sincerely promise to pay for lessons.[1]

Since this has derailed into a discussion on the Tower of Bable, how come in Genesis 10 (5, 20, 31), everyone had languages according to their own tribe, but by Genesis 11-1 "...the whole world had one language and a common speech…" which Yahweh had to un-do?

Since this has derailed into a discussion on the Tower of Bable, how come in Genesis 10 (5, 20, 31), everyone had languages according to their own tribe, but by Genesis 11-1 "...the whole world had one language and a common speech…" which Yahweh had to un-do?

Perhaps the most petty aspect of it all was ensuring that from that point on, it would be increasingly unlikely that anyone would be able to read and learn about Christianity from the original documents, but would have to rely on translations that may or may not have errors in them.

Kind of a weird thing to do for a god that wants us all to find him and worship him in the correct way.

Well, Anfauglir, if you think learning Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic will give you a kick start towards faith in God I sincerely promise to pay for lessons.

So there are NO differences between the original versions of scripture, and (let's say) a Chinese Bible? Not one single nuance that will be lost? Any Bible, in any translation, is just as good as any other?