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Pagan in my opinion is not a go to guy. He is simply one of nine. Our problem is that we needed him to be more then he was and he fell victim to trying to live up to our expectations. Is he our leadoff hitter, #3, or 4 hitter? Obviously not in NY. Surround him with talent, hide him in a good lineup, and take away the media hype and you have an above average center fielder who can flourish in the right environment. That said maybe he should accept a 3 year deal with a packed lineup. San Fran suits him, he should take a home town discount and stay.

Pagan in my opinion is not a go to guy. He is simply one of nine. Our problem is that we needed him to be more then he was and he fell victim to trying to live up to our expectations. Is he our leadoff hitter, #3, or 4 hitter? Obviously not in NY. Surround him with talent, hide him in a good lineup, and take away the media hype and you have an above average center fielder who can flourish in the right environment. That said maybe he should accept a 3 year deal with a packed lineup. San Fran suits him, he should take a home town discount and stay.

Pretty much. No way on earth is he the baseball guru we were sold, he's not a guy who is going to turn a garbage org. into a top class one. He does not impress me at all.

Agreed that Alderson is major disappointment. Lots of talk and gets a pass from NY press.

Bottom line is Torres and Ramirez were garbage. Pagan had a very good season. Bad trade.

Capuano?

Signed Franciso. Why? Waste of money ... and you don't have a lot of money. Braxton?

And he got nothing for Reyes. He had to know he couldn't afford him. So you trade Reyes and get some real talent. You have to work at it to be this slow because no one could be this incompetent by accident. Imagine if Alderson had traded Reyes to Angels ...

Agreed that Alderson is major disappointment. Lots of talk and gets a pass from NY press.

Bottom line is Torres and Ramirez were garbage. Pagan had a very good season. Bad trade.

Capuano?

Signed Franciso. Why? Waste of money ... and you don't have a lot of money. Braxton?

And he got nothing for Reyes. He had to know he couldn't afford him. So you trade Reyes and get some real talent. You have to work at it to be this slow because no one could be this incompetent by accident. Imagine if Alderson had traded Reyes to Angels ...

Alderson has been a fail so far, now he's talking about dealing Niese for a guy who is not much good out of his home bandbox.