the shape they have, sitting "stuck" in the ear , i feel that will be bothersome for me . same goes for the meelec m6

I would still recommend the W1. You'd be surprised at how comfortable 'form-fitted' IEMs can be. Failing that, I'd go with the A151 or PL50. A151 has less of a midrange emphasis than the PL50/W1 but very good isolation with the right tips. PR401 is not really something to get specifically for vocals - the Silver Bullets would be more like it.

the shape they have, sitting "stuck" in the ear , i feel that will be bothersome for me . same goes for the meelec m6

I would still recommend the W1. You'd be surprised at how comfortable 'form-fitted' IEMs can be. Failing that, I'd go with the A151 or PL50. A151 has less of a midrange emphasis than the PL50/W1 but very good isolation with the right tips. PR401 is not really something to get specifically for vocals - the Silver Bullets would be more like it.

thanks joker

my pl50 are already on their way (been ordered i few weeks before) , but it seems they'll take a while more than expected.

but from you say, the pl50 should match my needs similarly like the w1/a151.

about the silver bullet, to be honest i dont like the design. yes, i know it's a silly reason but still....

i guess the sunrise xcape wont meet my needs too?

and about "form-fitted" i dont want to take a risk for that price , but i may consider trying first the m6 only for comfort matter and then reconsider the W1

anyway. what about the DBA-02 , Brainwavz B2 and triple10 i mentioned before?. the B2 preorder seems really a good deal and i dont want to miss it. but im not sure which to get (if any)

i think the B2 and DBA-02 wont be so different , like the t10 will. but i want to know which ones will match my tastes

the shape they have, sitting "stuck" in the ear , i feel that will be bothersome for me . same goes for the meelec m6

I would still recommend the W1. You'd be surprised at how comfortable 'form-fitted' IEMs can be. Failing that, I'd go with the A151 or PL50. A151 has less of a midrange emphasis than the PL50/W1 but very good isolation with the right tips. PR401 is not really something to get specifically for vocals - the Silver Bullets would be more like it.

Then again, if the "form" doesn't fit your ear it's just a big pain. I discovered that my old M6 had a shell that was too big for my ears, which caused discomfort. No wonder I never liked IEMs, what with my first two experiences being the ear-raping iM716 and the too-large M6.

my pl50 are already on their way (been ordered i few weeks before) , but it seems they'll take a while more than expected.

but from you say, the pl50 should match my needs similarly like the w1/a151.

about the silver bullet, to be honest i dont like the design. yes, i know it's a silly reason but still....

i guess the sunrise xcape wont meet my needs too?

and about "form-fitted" i dont want to take a risk for that price , but i may consider trying first the m6 only for comfort matter and then reconsider the W1

anyway. what about the DBA-02 , Brainwavz B2 and triple10 i mentioned before?. the B2 preorder seems really a good deal and i dont want to miss it. but im not sure which to get (if any)

i think the B2 and DBA-02 wont be so different , like the t10 will. but i want to know which ones will match my tastes

Production versions of the B2 and DBA-02 should sound quite similar. TF10 is very different and there was a thread somewhere with TF10/Fischer comparisons.

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Any progress on the MC5's? I'd like to see how they stand up to RE0s.

MC5 review is finished and should be posted later this week.

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Then again, if the "form" doesn't fit your ear it's just a big pain. I discovered that my old M6 had a shell that was too big for my ears, which caused discomfort. No wonder I never liked IEMs, what with my first two experiences being the ear-raping iM716 and the too-large M6.

W1 is significantly smaller and slimmer than the M6 which is why i was wondering.

my pl50 are already on their way (been ordered i few weeks before) , but it seems they'll take a while more than expected.

but from you say, the pl50 should match my needs similarly like the w1/a151.

about the silver bullet, to be honest i dont like the design. yes, i know it's a silly reason but still....

i guess the sunrise xcape wont meet my needs too?

and about "form-fitted" i dont want to take a risk for that price , but i may consider trying first the m6 only for comfort matter and then reconsider the W1

anyway. what about the DBA-02 , Brainwavz B2 and triple10 i mentioned before?. the B2 preorder seems really a good deal and i dont want to miss it. but im not sure which to get (if any)

i think the B2 and DBA-02 wont be so different , like the t10 will. but i want to know which ones will match my tastes

Production versions of the B2 and DBA-02 should sound quite similar. TF10 is very different and there was a thread somewhere with TF10/Fischer comparisons.

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Originally Posted by Aflac

Then again, if the "form" doesn't fit your ear it's just a big pain. I discovered that my old M6 had a shell that was too big for my ears, which caused discomfort. No wonder I never liked IEMs, what with my first two experiences being the ear-raping iM716 and the too-large M6.

W1 is significantly smaller and slimmer than the M6 which is why i was wondering.

yes. i checked that thread just now. and from what i've read the triple f10 dont seem to be for me. i'll double check your own review of the b2.

any picture comparing the m6 and W1 ?

algthough from your multi-review, the sound points of the W1 are lower than the Dba-02. should i take that on count for my signature tastes.

since you mentioned the W1 "shine" with vocals, i really wanted 'em.... but as i mentioned i'm afraid of having comfort issues

I just got a pair of A151s from the Amazon deal for $50. However, I'm having trouble getting right fit and isolation. I use Sony hybrids with my M6s and they fit really well. Any advice on a pair of tips for the A151s?

yes. i checked that thread just now. and from what i've read the triple f10 dont seem to be for me. i'll double check your own review of the b2.

any picture comparing the m6 and W1 ?

Sorry, no such photo that I'm aware of.

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I just got a pair of A151s from the Amazon deal for $50. However, I'm having trouble getting right fit and isolation. I use Sony hybrids with my M6s and they fit really well. Any advice on a pair of tips for the A151s?

Hybrids should work with the A151 as well - the notch on the nozzle keeps them very secure - unless yours are stretched out by larger earphones already. Other tips that fit are Phonak silicone tips for the PFE and Monster Supertips. Probably some Complys, too, though I don't know which size.

No, Joker listened to Pianist and has decided to stop posting reviews.

Definitely thought about it.

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joker,

if u dont mind, can u help list me out 5 dynamic iems, within the $200 price bracket, that have a balance sound like sm3, of slightly more bassier.

1. smoothest sound, zero harshness.

2. widest extension, lower freq is more prioritized than high freq.

thanks

Wait, you want all of those in one earphone? RE262 or MTPG would probably be closest but the latter cannot compete with the SM3 in resolution and the former has arguably less bass (or at least less impact) than the SM3. The VSonic GR07 probably has the best top-to-bottom presence but it is definitely not emphasized down low and also not the most inoffensive set in terms of harshness/sibilance. The DDM is another one with emphasized bass but it has other issues...

then i said sound balance like sm3, i was more referring to the quantity of lows, mids, and highs, not detail or resolution. specifically i wanted to know what single dynamic driver, with open acoustic, that doesnt lack in terms of quantity, and have a good extension especially at the lower end. Iem that does 'complete' bass is something like vb or ddm, but vb is harsh and dry sounding, ddm is 2 soundstage position issue.

so anyway lets list out 5 of whats u think is smoothest sounding single dynamics that is not offensive, and vented.