Nostrom0

crazypigeon wrote:Radar detectors are not directly illegal, but they are cause they attach to your windshield. My dad got pulled over because he had a gps on his windshield once. Look here:

http://dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/d12/vc26708.htm

That being said, I'd rather get pulled over for having something on my windshield than speeding :D

As of January 1, 2009, you can have a GPS

(12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted in a 7-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver or in a 5-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest to the driver, if the system is used only for door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated and outside of an airbag deployment zone.

Nostrom0

Headparot wrote:everyone (Americans anyway) is born with the right to vote at the age of majority, you have to pass a test to be allowed to drive. just because something can be taken away doesn't mean it isn't a right. you have the right to be free but you can be imprisoned for commiting a crime. lots of rights can be taken away. the difference is that priveleges are earned then lost for cause. rights are preexisting conditions.

Waaaaay of topic now, but only felons on parole can't vote. After that, your voting rights are returned.

norm401

Seriously though, my apologies if I assumed you were under thirty. It's just that your comments "fit" the typical stereo type of an under thirty driver (in other words...stay out of my way and get off the road"). Again I paint with a very broad brush. Now, that's not to say you are nut case or un-caring, and I'll bet you are a nice guy, but the nicest guys and gals I know are hell bent when they get behind the wheel.

I used to be one of those guys to some degree. When I met my wife over thirty years ago I thought I was a good driver. Until she set me straight (she was (and still is) a qualified New York State driver ed instructor and at one time I believe the 1st and only female instructor). As she has pointed out the vast majority of people do not know proper driving rules. Case in point are those drivers who turn into the opposite lane they are coming from! Then they wonder why they get the finger!

To get back on topic, I use my radar detector as an aid or reminder to watch my speed and slow down when it goes off (even on false positives).

TJMaximus

I'm sure it's been said a few times by now over the course of eight pages, but with radar detectors you really do get what you pay for. All a $40 radar detector buys you is a false sense of security. Save up and get a V1 or an Escort 9500, folks.

Lomky

I've got an idea! How about you CALL your local court and listen to the list of offenses (it's a Sunday, it'll be a recording) for driving, and check if radar are illegal before posting your state?

As of Tuesday, Jan 22nd, the Commonwealth of Virginia will fine you for having a radar detector. One specific county's charge is approx. 90 dollars.

Also: attempting to hide Anything after the cop has pulled you over? Not so good an idea, methinks. They do have the right to search your vehicle (except for a locked, unaccessable trunk; as of my driver's ed 4 years ago) without giving just cause.

Shadowbat

I love w00t for these philosophical discussions as much as for the merchandise. It is true that driving on state or federal owned roads is a privilege, not a right. If one were to build one's own road I don't think anyone would care what speed one was driving. Heck, you could probably be drinking a cold one while spinning around as long as it was on private property.

That being said, it is absolutely wrong to nuisance another driver regardless of what speed he is going. I have read the DMV manuals for only two states, CA and UT. Both advised the driver to move to the right and not try to enforce the speed limit. If I were to drive below or exactly at the speed limit in the passing lane and someone was trying to pass then I would be guilty of obstructing traffic.

Courtesy is key to safe driving. Let people pass. An angered driver is not a safe driver.

yeawuteva

I don't know about where you peeps are from, but out here in Missouri these radar detector's are about as useless as color on a baboon's booty. For one, every time you pass a strip center (especially when there's a wal-mart in said strip center) the detector lights up like a Christmas tree, for two, it doesn't amount to a hill of beans when the 5-0 is pacing behind you, without the use of radar, and for c) it don't equal diddly squat when you are flying by, and your friendly neighborhood donut eating cop flips the on switch and catches you speeding before you realize you need to slow down. Now, don't get me wrong, these work great in other cities where the pigs, er I mean cops have no clue as to how to catch a speeder, but here they all have their GED's and know ALL the tricks of the trade. My advice to you is two words: learn to frickin' type, cuz this spending $40 bucks on a radar detector and spending another $5 on shipping where it most likely only costs about $2, is a total waste of money. I highly, highly recommend yous to overcome the economy, save your money, and slow the poop down. Got it?

norm401

Shadowbat wrote:I love w00t for these philosophical discussions as much as for the merchandise. It is true that driving on state or federal owned roads is a privelege, not a right. If one were to build one's own road I don't think anyone would care what speed one was driving. Heck, you could probably be drinking a cold one while spinning around as long as it was on private property.

That being said, it is absolutely wrong to nuisance another driver regardless of what speed he is going. I have read the DMV manuals for only two states, CA and UT. Both advised the driver to move to the right and not try to enforce the speed limit. If I were to drive below or exactly at the speed limit in the passing lane and someone was trying to pass then I would be guilty of obstructing traffic.

Courtesy is key to safe driving. Let people pass. An angered driver is not a safe driver.

Sincerely......Batty

Now that's using common sense. Good for you.
I also try to move over or drive in the right lane when keeping my speed within the limit. But if I find myself slowing traffic down because I'm driving within the limit then I speed up a go with the flow. There have been many instances when a police cruiser got on my bumper waiting for me to get out of the way. They don't give me the lights or horn, they just wait until I realize they need to get by. By the same token I've done the same thing to them as long as I'm within the legal speed limit. Never a problem.

RainKingKC

moufsnafa wrote:It doesn't matter. There is no excuse for endangering the lives of others.

That said, it's a bad idea to purposefully mess with these idiots. You're only making the situation worse. Drive defensively.

And for those of you buying this thing: slow down you fragging odoriferous voids!

There are certain areas where the projected speed limit is drastically lowered to increase revenues for cities by catching speeders. I don't think anyone uses detectors for flying 75 through residentials...

norm401

RainKingKC wrote:There are certain areas where the projected speed limit is drastically lowered to increase revenues for cities by catching speeders. I don't think anyone uses detectors for flying 75 through residentials...

Use your melon. Pft.

I can a test to that. At one traffic court that my wife had to go to (yes that's right the driving instructor) the magistrate (not a judge) actually stated that this was a speed trap intended to increase revenues for the town of Depew, NY

xiaoqt

mohavemarv wrote:It's me, the officer again. You might have talked a judge into tossing the ticket. However, there is a default speed limit in most every state of 25mph in a residential area. Was it a residential area?

Thanks. It is residential area. I have already paid the fine. Otherwise, I have to take one day off to go to court, spend time there, then at the end, if the officer doesn't show up, I have 2 choices, reschedule or pay the fine. It is NJ. So, I paid the fine to avoid all the trouble and buy back one or two days of my life. It is weird here at NJ, the Judge can reduce the points, but raise the fine. So, it is like you buy back points with your money, I consider it a kind of government corruption.

Lesson learned, I will pay more attention to the speed. I didn't look at the dashboard at that time. But the officer said my speed was 49. Later I tried it again and found it is almost impossible for me to get to 49 at that place, as that was a sharp right turn that I almost have to make a stop to make it, and then it goes uphill and I am not a person go heavy on gas. It was $4/G at that time.

tdcrump

Not illegal in CA. I have the same model (wooted for $10 more back in Dec). Works very well on Ka band (always lights-up for the stupid radar speed limit signs on Pacific Coast Highway). K band triggers all the time in town, so I usually run in Highway mode. Haven't had the fun of a laser detection yet, so can't tell you anything there.

Shadowbat

Too easy. No it is best that everyone buy one of these doohickeys and thereby stimulate the economy. Everyone should set their's to detect X band so they will slow down more often, especially around convenience stores. People will slow down, save lives, and get better fuel economy, ridding America from the yoke of imported oil. It is a win-win scenario.

zpqian520

in for one...
for all the people who firmly believe in keep right pass left, god bless you. i do on average of 75 on open roads from time to time and hate when some jackass on the left lane decides to follow the speed limit, regardless if theres a car next to him on the right lane or not. it's still a annoyance just to have to pass him on the right just to get back on the left.
if you want to do the speed limit or close, STAY ON THE RIGHT, get on the left to pass if neccessary.

norm401

Shadowbat wrote:Too easy. No it is best that everyone buy one of these doohickeys and thereby stimulate the economy. Everyone should set their's to detect X band so they will slow down more often, especially around convenience stores. People will slow down, save lives, and get better fuel economy, ridding America from the yoke of imported oil. It is a win-win scenario.

Sincerely......Batty

Batty, Batty, you seems to make logic, but we are not in a logical society. Everyone, should buy these and then try to speed like crazy, thereby getting caught and adding to the local coffers. Then with increase revenue the towns can give raises to the politicians, hire more police and generate more fines and thereby stimulating the economy!

JBlakeRamey

JohnnyLemonhead wrote:they are not at all illegal in CA. not at all. VA and DC are the only illegal places.

yeah... VA... got a ticket (almost a felony for going 80 in a 65 and the radar)... kept me from getting two badass jobs fresh out of college. so watch out... i didn't even know anything about it... cop was a complete prick.

riverbend

Shadowbat

norm401 wrote:Batty, Batty, you seems to make logic, but we are not in a logical society. Everyone, should buy these and then try to speed like crazy, thereby getting caught and adding to the local coffers. Then with increase revenue the towns can give raises to the politicians, hire more police and generate more fines and thereby stimulating the economy!

Do you see the errors of your thinking?

Gee, I did miss that point. Silly me, thinking Reaganomics was right but simply pointed in the wrong direction. Why not use the "trickle up" theory? Lower taxes means I, the commoner that I am, have more money to burn. I go buy a Slurpee. Every day. I email 7-11 about how courteous Gladys, my Slurpee supplier, has been to me and she gets a raise. With that recognition she becomes even more dedicated to her job and becomes manager. With the new position she can now afford a new car and eventually a new home, further stimulating the economy. She can now afford to go back to school, earning her BA in business administration and eventually owns a string of convienience stores. One day she decides to start a new business. It takes off and her business creates thousands of new jobs. And to think....it all started because I had a little extra cash to buy a Slurpee.

hinsonbids

zpqian520 wrote:in for one...
for all the people who firmly believe in keep right pass left, god bless you. i do on average of 75 on open roads from time to time and hate when some jackass on the left lane decides to follow the speed limit, regardless if theres a car next to him on the right lane or not. it's still a annoyance just to have to pass him on the right just to get back on the left.
if you want to do the speed limit or close, STAY ON THE RIGHT, get on the left to pass if neccessary.

Amen brother. I wonder if people realize that staying to the right except to pass is not just a courtesy but a law in most states.

alco251

caffeine_dude wrote:I believe we, as American citizens have a right to receive all singles through the airwaves, seems odd that some states can prohibit this. Last I remember that is a federal law and i'm too, lets say, out of it to look it up.

FCC law says you cannot receive signals "for personal gain" i.e. avoiding a ticket. It's a stretch, but that's why there are lawyers.

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