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I think that even if the TL check is done by J-E, it is absolutely not foul proof. I personally think there is an obvious chance there will be missing subtilities etc, but since they are aware of this problem and that they are exposing it, there is no real worry about that.

Wow that entire 5th chapter was so unexpected! Maou and his crazy plans, I love it, lol.

Anything related to Kyouhei pretty much sums up what made the game worthwhile for me. Maou and Haru outwitting each other back and forth, that was some good stuff!

With that said, I couldn't really get into the romance plot in Haru's route. Not really sure why, I never found her character attractive; I guess I let my bias get the best of me, lol. This is why the romance scenes and the epilogue kind of killed it for me.

Note: And here it is, much belated. Tsubaki Patch translates the entirety of Chapter Two, that being the Main Route segment and Tsubaki Route. Two elements of the configuration menu haven’t been edited, but it wasn’t worth holding up the release. Japanese walkthrough can be found here.

Please report errors in the G-Senjou no Maou Topic at the Amaterasu Forums, at #Ammy on Rizon, or email me directly at neko7363x at gmail.com. Enjoy.

Hell yeah, these are the best news I could hear. *Off I go to read some mindf*ck.*

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I remember chapter 2... Made me want to set the protagonist on fire -.-;

Spoiler for chap2:

I can't hate him anymore than I dislike Taichi from Cross Channel .
At least Kyousuke is taking everything seriously (unlike Taichi in the first half of the whole game), even if he's definitely not an angel, and he has really selfish (albeit IMO understandable) reasons.
It's kinda strange the game wants to convince, that Maou and Kyousuke are the same persons as if some sort of alter-egos or MPD entities (that'd also explain what might be the role of the psychologist's), but currently I reckon he and Maou might be some long lost brothers or something. So far I know they have the same Father, and at night they can be easily confused (since the grey haired girl confused them).
However I'm still at the earlier parts of the whole game, so I'm fairly sure both of these possibilities are wrong though, and the reason has to be something more complicated and twisted.

(But damn how I enjoy that VN, it sucks me in completely. It's like there aren't many boring parts in it, whereas my attention would wander somewhere else.)

Well IMO Tsubaki's route was surprisingly "romantic". I probably even enjoyed it more than the VNs where such romance is in the main focus.
I certainly didn't expect Tsubaki to go through that level of character development, after seeing the first chapter. Her character changed so much while remaining logical, understandable and not cliche-ish, that I couldn't help but be fascinated by their relationship and its complexity due to Kyousuke's unique circumstances.
Soon after following that touching event (I almost baaawed) the table turned, she goes back to being the usual, and then Kyousuke falls for her and he gets developed (I was a bit surprised how honest he was with himself about his own feelings, how quickly he noticed that fact, and he wasn't really trying to convince himself about the opposite). The very last part with the diary was heart-touching, I felt so warm and fuzzy.
But man, Gonzou is one of the most terrifying characters I've seen for a long time. He is portrayed perfectly, and even his voice actor matches the way it should be. I was really surprised about the latest twist when Kyousuke alone managed to keep Gonzou in chess, and earn a good result from that position.
I was also fascinated by Haru's reasoning when she found out how and when the money went missing. I can certainly see why her route is considered the best.
How enjoyable is Kanon's route next patch by the way?

^ That's great you enjoyed Tsubaki's route like this.
I personally ranked it the second best (just closely after Haru's) but I'm always wondering if it was because Tsubaki never bothered me (despite her archtype might revulse many for being too... "perfect" "airhead" etc... a bit like Nagisa in Clannad).
That said, her development is huge, perhaps the biggest among the heroines.

Gonzou is... the grizzly () but unfortunately not as awesome as Sharin's Houzuki.

As for Kanon... that is... really difficult to say.
For starters, Kanon's route just sidetrack completely Maou's matter. However, while in Tsubaki's, it was just on the background and Haru was still on his track, in Kanon's route, the reason is lame.
It really depends how you are fond of "family" drama, because Kanon's route can be considered as the worst or as ok/good. But generally speaking, the setup of this route is really awkward.

Well they are not saving it deliberately for last, but the game itself is built that way, that her route is the third among the heroines, as far as I know. Next patch will contain Kanon's route (as of writing 353/777kb [45.4%] is translated), and chapter 4 patch will contain Haru's.
How did you like Tsubaki's route?

As much as I didn't want it to end, I knew Maou's, and by extension, Haru's involvement would end sometime within the latter half of the route. Still, I was going "This patch, is the best patch" during that whole kidnapping plot.

Also....question. If this gets an anime, how will they handle the voicework for Kyosuke and Maou? How will they do it without......I don't know how to explain it, but here are my views.....

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Spoiler for My take while going through Tsubaki's route. Please do not take as gospel:

Currently, I'm under the assumption that Kyo and Maou are both sides of the same coin. Initially, I did believe that they were seperate persons, even long-lost siblings just right up to the point where I saw Maou's face for the first time, and the subsequent perspective change. So, if they were one and the same, would the production company hire someone else to handle Kyo, or would they have Jun Fukuyama voice both roles and potentially ruin the surprise?

And it's because of this game that I have Schubert's "Der Erlkonig" stuck in my head for quite a while.

I actually remember reading some rumors that someone was planning an anime for G-sen and Sharin but I don't remember by now where, and how trustworthy it was.

Spoiler for chap2 spoilers:

Yeah I also enjoyed the kidnapping event with the chase (It's great that I wasn't the only one feeling excited). I really didn't expect that actually the fake-police are the one stealing the money from the case. Of course it's pretty clear that Tsubaki route isn't about Maou, so I didn't really mind that they were absent there, because it'd have a different impact then.
Of course, chap2 indeed tries to heavily imply in multiple points that they are supposed to be like the same person and/or different MPD entities. But I'm doubting it exactly for that reason.
There are plottwists everywhere in the game, so if they start hinting something so early and so openly, it's bound to be a decoy or something, because they are too deliberately trying to make it that obvious by mouth-feeding the reader to think that.
I'm not sure who exactly Maou is though, as there wasn't enough info to figure it out yet.

About voice actors, well I reckon Fukuyama-san could do even Kyousuke's voice appropriately. Even if he can't, the story is still far more epic and might still contain more plottwists than any other anime out there yet AFAIK, so not producing an anime only because of one voice actor difficulty is kinda a weak reason IMO.

Also, Tsubaki's voice just seems quite different from Miki Ito's other roles that I have heard (eg. Takano from Higurashi, Asa from Shuffle). Wonder how I'll react when I get to Minerva Zabi's first apperance in ZZ Gundam....... (I'm at episode 2 right now).

Speaking of voice roles, I simply COULD NOT resist calling Maou Lelouch/Zero every time I heard Fukuyama's voice. It's as if he has voice geass, making people obey him through voice alone, like Rai from CG Lost Colors.

I apologize for anyone coming into this thread that doesn't follow along. I simply love actor allusions.

Hm. Where did you hear it from that Tsubaki is voiced by Miki Itou? I did a few searches on google and none of them seemed to confirm it.
The most accurate site I could find with game seyjuu's is that site, and on G-Sen it says that Tsubaki is voiced by Kanzaki Chirou. Murasakibana Sumire is her other name she seems to use for game-roles, and AFAIK that's the name in the credits too (usually quite a few Seyjuu's use a different name sometimes).
She was the one who voiced Bunshū/Iishe in the Koihime series, Rinrin in Sister Princess, and several other roles (here's the ANN article about her).

I can't help but think of Lelouch too, every time Fukuyama-san / Houdenteirappa (one of his other names, and that's the one he seems to used here) speaks in his "theatrical" voice.

edit: By the way does Gonzou's voice actor have any other role in other games/anime? I can't seem to find much about him unfortunately, besides a role in "Trample on "Shatten"!!". His name is Iguchi Denemon in romaji (according to some sites I've found), and his name in kanji supposed to be 居口伝衛門 .

Even though I'm late to the party, I'd still like to share some of my thoughts on the game, which I just finished the other day. Well, not all of it, I started with Tsubaki's route (which I already like a lot) and then went for Haru's (which left me awestruck). I don't think I'll read the Kanon and Mizuha endings any time soon, even more so now seeing that everyone here is saying that they're very flawed.

Spoiler for more:

I didn't expect the maou and Kyousuke to be the same person, until the game "revealed" it. From then on, I never doubted that they are indeed one and the same (that I played Tsubaki's route first helped there) - until it was made clear that they are in fact not.
When the maou called Kyousuke after their father had been released and talked to him as if he were prepared to die, I believed him - right up until the moment Haru stepped in. Etc, etc.
Long story short, I fell for every single plot-twist and for everything the maou set up. And I loved the game for it.

After I had finished Tsubaki, I also got into Haru's story really... unprepared. While it should have been obvious that her story was the main dish, I somehow expected it to be of similar length, and of similar content. Dang, was I wrong. When the terrorist incident went down I was really shocked for a moment, that absolutely crushed what I had imagined.
What really fucked me up though was the epilogue. I had a feeling that there was going to be SOME sort of epilogue, even when the credits already rolled. But what I thought it'd be like was more along the lines of "kono go no tanoshii seikatsu no ichinichi"....something like that.
As you know, that couldn't have been further from the truth. Damn the writer who came up with that evil, evil conclusion (even though it admittedly did still end on a happy note). I don't think I've read a VN before that messed with me as much as that final chapter did. Just thinking about it I still get upset.

There are really few things I would criticize....in fact, I can come up with three right now: for one, the hostage-incident. While I really enjoyed the chase around town when the exchange should take place, there's something I can't come up with a decent explanation for: if the money was already taken, why did the maou take the unnecessary risk of going for the empty suitcase in the end? Just to "play" with Haru a bit? It just doesn't make sense.
Then, the scenes where all girls dropped by in order when Kyousuke was in prison. I was not only kinda predictable, but also a tad over the top, I feel.
And finally, by far my biggest complaint: why; why the hell didn't we get to see haru in the final CG? Goddamnit!

All in all, it was more than worth my time. As said above, I thoroughly enjoyed Tsubaki's route while the main one deeply impressed me. It surely is one of the best VNs I have read to date and actually comes very close to my personal #1 spot.