Ed Jovanovski

If we could also sign Hamhuis, I'd pill the trigger on this deal for sure. Wouldn't mind seeing both Bieksa and Obrien gone. Adding Jovo + Hamhuis, both players that PK would be huge. Then Jovo and Salo come off the books in 2011 and we go shopping.

With my reading of the math, we could get Jovo, but not Jovo and Hamhuis, even if we dump Bieksa, O'Brien and Bernier.

If we could also sign Hamhuis, I'd pill the trigger on this deal for sure. Wouldn't mind seeing both Bieksa and Obrien gone. Adding Jovo + Hamhuis, both players that PK would be huge. Then Jovo and Salo come off the books in 2011 and we go shopping.

I'm sure we could re-sign Jovo for cheaper but as good as Salo is he's just injured way to damn much. I know Jovo get injured a lot too but Jovo is a game changer Salo isn't but he is a good top 4 D.

Speak for yourself. I've always lamented letting Jovanovski go the way we did...I would have rather done what it took to retain him and let Naslund good, TBH.

Jovanovski is certainly capable of playing defense first, it depends on how the coach decides to utilize him. But with that said, his offensive skill usually dictates an offensive role, and that's not the type of defensemen we need--one who plays a set role to a T. We need a guy who can fluidly shift from one end to the other(a la Niedermayer) or a defense-first defensemen(Mitchell/Hamhuis).

I love Jovanovski, would welcome him back, and I'm not even that concerned about his salary. My concern is just that he's not what this team needs at this time.

Here here... Jovo is the one player I see that I HATE to see in another uniform. His heart, passion and commitment to his teammates were above and beyond in Vancouver.

Jovo had no interest in waiving his NTC when Phoenix was scraping at the bottom of the barrel, now that they are ready to potentially contend why would he leave now?

He is a big part of the team's veteran core, has played much better under Tippett and is very settled in the Phoenix area. I don't imagine he has any interest in leaving, nor would Phoenix have any interest in moving him.

Jovo had no interest in waiving his NTC when Phoenix was scraping at the bottom of the barrel, now that they are ready to potentially contend why would he leave now?

He is a big part of the team's veteran core, has played much better under Tippett and is very settled in the Phoenix area. I don't imagine he has any interest in leaving, nor would Phoenix have any interest in moving him.

Jovo, Cooke, Cloutier, even Morrison, really....for all their technical flaws, all those guys made it real easy to believe they bled for this team.

I miss that.

The problem with Cooke was that other guys on the Canucks were forced to bleed for his antics. If there is one ex-Canuck I will never miss it is Matt "The Turtle" Cooke. Gutless is a kind description. I abhorred his game while he was Canuck and was never happier than when he was traded.

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Perhaps the last straw for Cooke as a Canuck occurred Nov. 8, 2007 in the Saddledome. In the second period of a 3-2 Vancouver win, Cooke ran Daymond Langkow into the boards and put the Flames centre out of the game. (Sound familiar?) Dion Phaneuf made a beeline for Cooke, who was typically taking refuge behind a cluster of bodies, and Mattias Ohlund wound up entangled with Phaneuf in the melee.

Here's how hockeyfights.comdescribes Phaneuf's subsequent pummelling of Ohlund, who was among the most important Canuck players at the time:

"Ohlund throws two rights and a body shot. Phaneuf ties Ohlund up and then connects with three straight lefts. Ohlund misses with a right cross. They exchange short rights before Phaneuf unleashes a flurry of eight unanswered uppercuts and overhand rights."

Happily for Ohlund, he survived. But you can bet head coach Alain Vigneault and assistant Rick Bowness were appalled at seeing one of their top defencemen having to fight another of Cooke's battles.

"That's why Matt Cooke is no longer with this team," said Canucks tough guy Darcy Hordichuk, who wasn't a Canuck then but has obviously heard the story.

^ There were quite a few stories about how much Cooke's teammates despised him. He was known as a coward (and rightfully so).

I always disliked Cooke for this reason. I used to take major flack from posters that loved the guy and didn't understand how his type of behaviour can hurt a locker room. I used to recieve threats on CDC from some broad who claimed to be his cousin or aunt or something - pretty much death threats - every time I said something negative about him.

Agree about next season as well... after that though, I'd love to have him back. Also... don't you mean Winnipeg would match?

No disrespect to Winnipeg, but in all seriousness, if Winnipeg does get the franchise, I have got to believe this will make it easier for us to get any of their UFA's that are available. How do I be polite about this, but, um, I think Vancouver might be a more attractive location to live in than Winnipeg.

In all seriousness, I'm not trying to be a jackass about Winnipeg, but honestly...

The problem with Cooke was that other guys on the Canucks were forced to bleed for his antics. If there is one ex-Canuck I will never miss it is Matt "The Turtle" Cooke. Gutless is a kind description. I abhorred his game while he was Canuck and was never happier than when he was traded.

Nobody likes Cooke, that is sort of the point with this sort of player.

Jovo was good here, in that era. Losing him was a drag. One thing about him, was that he could clog the crease at one end and clear it at the other. This sort of guy would have helped a lot this last season, but why bother?

Sorry, that's trolling. Accurate, but trolling.

If the Canucks really want to move forward it would be easier winning with a GM, rather than in spite of him. Until Gillis drops his wierdness or the Canucks drop him they won't move forward. Given that, I expect Gillis to continue his policy of signing the aged heroes of yesteryear. Why not Jovo? Or Niedermayer? I'd like to see Blake.

If the Canucks really want to move forward it would be easier winning with a GM, rather than in spite of him. Until Gillis drops his wierdness or the Canucks drop him they won't move forward. Given that, I expect Gillis to continue his policy of signing the aged heroes of yesteryear.

Nobody likes Cooke, that is sort of the point with this sort of player.

The point is, many of his *teammates* don't think much of him either. I doubt it bothers Cooke though - after all, he doesn't have a problem hiding behind a one-eyed player and let him fight his battle for him.