I mean, the nat 1 thing's older than I am, I think at one point there was an entire list of potential ******* that can happen on nat 1's. 5e throws that stuff to the players because that's sort of 5e's thing: "we can throw something this absolutely and absurdly watered down and people will STILL play it" I mean, I'm not going to rip on 5e much but I'm not a fan of what they did with it, I can understand simplifying the rules a bit to get new players in, but 5e is just so damn anemic