Like when he orchestrated stealing the Focusing Iris and blowing up an antire Alliance town, ridding the world of red-haired abomination, leaving the Blue Aspect guessing how the hell that could happen. Any imbecile could do that, they blow up enemy cities all the time.

My guess is the Sunreavers did all the planning. Garrosh just said "Get that thing so we can blow up Theramore" and nothing more, kind of like the whole Divine Bell thing.

If there's one thing World of Warcraft players hate more than people who don't play, it's people that do play but not as much as them.

Yeah, right, deny all success to the character you don't like, that'd be objective. Because villains are supposed to be bad at literally everything and have all bad qualities combined to be realistic.

I just have seen no evidence of him being cunning like that. If you have any, let me know. He uses coercion a lot to get things done. Is it not possible he used coercion on a few Blood Elves to get the Focusing Iris?

If there's one thing World of Warcraft players hate more than people who don't play, it's people that do play but not as much as them.

I just have seen no evidence of him being cunning like that. If you have any, let me know. He uses coercion a lot to get things done. Is it not possible he used coercion on a few Blood Elves to get the Focusing Iris?

And have you seen evidence of him being stupid like you want him to be?

"A NAME IS A CLOAK OF LETTERS THROWN UPON A MAN. IT MEANS NOTHING." - Transcendent One, Planescape: Torment.

during that flight to the twilight highlands when he sent the fighters away from defending the zepplins...

Then he just hacked and slashed his way out of situation like any true orc should. Besides, we all saw how "effective" those primitive aeroplanes are against twilight dragons. Heck, he might've saved them by sending them away from an already doomed fleet.

"A NAME IS A CLOAK OF LETTERS THROWN UPON A MAN. IT MEANS NOTHING." - Transcendent One, Planescape: Torment.