Thanks again Flav for keeping things rolling all year. Well done as always, with this one obviously being lot less enjoyable to follow and come up with something fresh and new every day at the ungodly hour you do it.

Nice pic too of 2 great guys on opposite side of Cal/Stanford line.
And cracked up over , “I’d love to be Milwaukee.” Even this late in season, nothing getting past Loo.

Enjoyed a nice visit with BF at the track yesterday.
He taught me a few nuggets about the ponies, and a bit on how to bet intelligently. Like most things in life, there’s far more to it than appearances would suggest. My horse experience has been bitten by one when I was 5, getting a sore ass riding one a couple of times, and raiding the bank account for riding lessons for a decade for the older snarkette. It was time yesterday for the equine balance sheet to get an entry on the other side.

I can see now where intelligent people like BF could find an interest in it, along with the spectacle. While the hoi polloi are drinking and betting on the nose and tearing up tickets, he’s got some analytical method working that limits risk, yet could end up in a substantial reward.

Like willied notes above, I congratulated BF yesterday on his work in another outstanding season here. He captained this good ship USS Flap through a season-long mix of bad seas, Roaring Forties, and doldrums. It’s not easy putting out good ledes for this thread on a daily basis under the most adverse team conditions imaginable. We agreed this was the worst season in SF history. This POS squad didn’t quite match the 100 Ls of the 1985 team debacle, but this team was more talented to start, with a payroll that doesn’t even brook legit comparison.

I know it isn’t followed with the same interest, but the number 1 pick would be nice. As Craig pointed out our success with top picks is pretty good. harper, strasberg Posey types are picked #1. It will give us something to talk about next June for sure, when we are breaking down why next years team and complaining that management made no changes, a very real possibility. Either injuries or bad year / high contracts leave Giants with 2 trade pieces worth having. Panik and Mad bum. Can’t see us trading those guys.
Detroit faces Minn with nothing to play for, and throwing Colon. My hope is he pulls a Cain and pitches well in what will certainly be his last ever MLB start considering he is 100 years old and has an ERA north of 6…

Assuming AZ and NY win WC games the playoffs are as interesting as they could possibly be without SF
Az-LA Obvious. How great would it be if AZ won? For 2 teams I dislike a lot i’ll be rooting HARD for AZ to beat the Rockies…
Nats – Cubs a great series with lots of stars and Harper back. Love or hate him ( I LOVE him).
Clev- Houston Boston all intriguing teams with stars and young up & coming players.
Final Four potential of 3 100 win teams. When was the last time that happened?
The WORST Div winners are Cubs and Red Sox..
What series matchup are you rooting for??
I’m up for Clev- Houston winner vs the Nats…

The racetrack is a great place for Flapalooza type gatherings with all the down time between races.
Casual players would rather have fun talking and laughing than burying their heads in the form and staring at the board…

That WAS a cool ending. I’m glad they pulled it out as 99 losses would have really pissed me off.
Any chance that was the last at-bat of Pablo’s career? Unlikely, I know, but I wouldn’t completely rule out that possibility.

the first thing he does is get up, hand over his phone to Sabean, walk out the door….and keep on walking. If this guy is left to try to fix this he’s going to sign 16 *defensive minded* free agents and we’ll be fucked forever.

Booby stepping down would be fine with me.Just don’t believe in Sabean anymore to make a deal worthwhile. He doesn’t have it in him to pull the trigger,though theirs not much bullets in the chamber to work with…
Que up Lyrnard Skyrnrd “Gimme me back my Bullets”

You god damn guineas really make me laugh! First off, Sabean ain’t got that kind of muscle no more.
You wanna talk business? Let’s talk business. We have the 7th highest payroll in all of MLB and are already up against the luxury tax. The only contract coming off the books is Cain’s. We aren’t gonna make any sexy free agent signings. On top of that, we’ve got all kinds of contract issues, so trades aren’t happening either. Several guys are signed thru 2020 and 2021 with limited AND full no trade contracts.
Next year’s roster, outside of some cosmetic tweaks around the edges, is going to be the same as this year’s. That sucks—I know. But its the way it is. Get Used To It.
Maybe some guys stay healthy and we get some bounce back years and we scare .500. If so, great. If not, we suck again and get another high draft slot. Its probably gonna take 4-5 years to turn this battleship around. Its the price you pay for winning 3 rings and I’m fine with that.
Quick fix with a big off season roster make-over can’t happen and won’t happen no matter who the freaking GM is!!!!

Buzz kill. But you’re not gettin’ me down, Diggity. I’m cookin’ up a Posey and Bum to the Braves for like half their team so once I get this on Sabes desk we’ll see if 2018 looks “mostly the same with cosmetic tweaks around the edges…” I am going to trade Bum 37 times this Winter and literally every trade idea I come up with would make us better in 2018. Watch.

Yeah Shanny showed good hands better then his receivers!
Cracked up last week when former coach Brian Billick was on Knbr and they brought up recievers and he said:”Hell I can bring anybody in to camp to drop a ball I need one’s that can ketch one!”

I’ll tell you something else, I’m ready for THIS shit to END. I’ve read enough flowery bullshit from our young players about the babes they’re banging to last a fucking lifetime. NO MORE FLOWERY BULLSHIT! Get better at baseball!

ooh, #6 is Walter Davis. Man before his knees gave out (and other issues we won’t mention) he was fun player to watch for Suns. they had a cool team with Westphal (USC) and Buse at Gs, Alvin Adams as high post outside shooting C and Truck Robinson to set screens and bang inside.

Outside of a Cain in CF or Moustakas at 3b, or as Loo mentioned Carlos Gomez CF, I don’t see earth shattering changes coming either. Chances of Bum or Posey being traded are slim and none; I remember the wsw guy used to complain about “rosterbation.”

. For all Sabes talks of being bold and creative, he always overvalues what he has. Panik isn’t bringing back anything beyond hot prospect material either. Dumping off Span Pence or Belt would require Giants to give back contract dough which they appear unlikely to accept as price to pay.

Take the draft pick, play younger corner OFs, hope for some rebounds at plate from “core” and improved pitching to get nearer .500 and finish ahead of Pads.

Filling CF for a couple seasons has to be move #1 but it is going to be hard. Candidates beyond Cutch and Lorenzo Cain? Kiermaier of Tampa, a team that does deals with Sabes already? Good players seem out of reach, and too many dumpster dive Cameron Maybins out there.

Anybody else want to weigh in on my “that could have been Pablo’s last MLB at-bat” proposition?
Loo thinks he ain’t done. I was totally with Loo all along on wanting him to return and predicting he would return—and I’m glad they did bring him back. And they gave him plenty of opportunities. But, despite that awesome blast today, I think he doesn’t have it anymore.
That would be one hell of a swan song…..a walk off homer at home in the hardest park in the history of the universe to hit homers in.
Loo, what kind of odds will you give me? 10 to 1 and you’ve got a wager.

I don’t know how much he’s got left, but there’s enough low budget teams that would take him on just because he’s cheap and maybe a little bit of a draw. If he’s not a Giant, I would expect him to turn up in Oakland, Miami, KC, who knows? I really think he wants to make good. I gave up gambling, BTW…

They be hosed no matter what. Said it many times this season – Renaissance Period over . . . Now, we are in the wilderness years (or dark ages if you’re preference is the European Renaissance/Dark age metaphor).

Seriously folks, this is a 3 to 5 year make over, especially when you consider the competition in our division. Philly and/or Astros are apt comparisons.

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Timmy is 34 now. And I want to say “only 34”. And he’s been pretty much done for awhile. I can’t really even imagine how that would feel, to be *done* before the age of 35. Because, you know, my career has just been one long upward trajectory with no end in sight…