but apart from disfear/discharge not many bands that you see referred to as d beat actually do the kick snare kick kick snare thing very much. it's all a big jumbly genre mess and i try to get my pre-emptive ignorance stike in very early so as to avoid ''i would argue that some of the bands youve listed arnt dbeat but whatevs.''/having discussions about what constitutes a genre. it's not working very well.

it's deffo all about the slightly off-kilter drumming, other than that it has a lot in common with crust punk in my opinion. then there's the whole japanese scene hardcore/crust/crashcore/japcore (I think these are real genres anyway...?)
Bands like- Battle of Disarm, Collapse Society, Destroy and Crocodile Skink. Kind of my favourite nation for this kind of thing as it just sounds so brutal. The blog I posted up thread has some really great stuff archived so check it out if you're interested...

Seems to be more prevalent in dance/electronic music but when it comes down to it being 'all about the off-kilter drumming' it just seems kind of ridiculous. If a band's drummer gets better at playing does that mean they change genres? Nonsense.