that's ridiculous. osu wasn't a good team this year but conference usa? we might not have gone undefeated but we would've won that silly conference. losing close games @miami, @michigan, @nebraska, vs michigan state, vs penn state, and @purdue is one thing. losing against the likes of southern miss, memphis, marshall, uab, and tulsa is another. it is laughable to compare houston's schedule to a big ten or acc or pac 12 or big 12 team's. the cougars probably win 7 or 8 games tops in one of those leagues.

1) You barely beat Toledo, who couldn't win the MAC.

2) You lost to Purdue, who lost to ******* Rice, one of the worst teams in C-USA.

the losing to a team who lost to a team argument has always been a fallacy in college football. there was no game this year ohio state played in that they didn't have a chance to win in the 4th quarter. i never said osu didn't have a ****** year, but comparing the Big Ten to CUSA is a ******* joke. just because minnesota is CUSA quality doesn't mean the rest of the league is.

the losing to a team who lost to a team argument has always been a fallacy in college football. there was no game this year ohio state played in that they didn't have a chance to win in the 4th quarter. i never said osu didn't have a ****** year, but comparing the Big Ten to CUSA is a ******* joke. just because minnesota is CUSA quality doesn't mean the rest of the league is.

Good. I was waiting for the lame Minnesota reference. I actually grew up in Ohio, but decided I didn't want to be another Wal-Mart Buckeyes fan.

You're missing the point, which isn't a surprise, you almost always do.

The Big Ten was clearly a superior conference, but that doesn't make every team in the Big Ten better than every team in CUSA. Ohio State sucked this year, far more than Houston and Southern Miss.

You lost to Purdue. A team that loses to Purdue isn't going to run the table in any half-decent conference.

The real point was that Houston's schedule this year was awful and not comparable to Penn State's schedule. They lost to Wisconsin, Alabama, and Nebraska. The best team Houston beat was 6-7 UCLA. Ohio State sucking this year had a lot more to do with playing a tough schedule than Southern Miss and Houston being good this year had to do with them having really talented teams. They were basically Northwestern and Iowa type teams playing inferior competition. You replace Nebraska, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, and MIami with Marshall, UAB, Tulsa, etc. and the team wins ~10 games and all of the sudden they don't suck b/c they played a weaksauce schedule? It's a total joke.

Losing to Purdue is one thing. Having to play teams as good as or better than Purdue every single week is different. Ohio State lost to an even worse Purdue team in 2009 and then we went on to win the Rose Bowl and Big Ten Title that year.

I respect you guys, and love OSU too, but you sound like wannabe SEC homers right now. We were not good the first half of the season. Like, at all...

EDIT: By the way, I'm not meaning to imply that we couldn't have won Conference USA; I'm simply saying that the way you both are dismissing those teams as if it would be a forgone conclusion is a mistake.

I'm not dismissing them, I do think it a bit far fetched to say we couldn't have won the conference, would we have definitely? No. Probably? Yes.

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1) You barely beat Toledo, who couldn't win the MAC.

2) You lost to Purdue, who lost to ******* Rice, one of the worst teams in C-USA.

Listen to your own fans and stop being arrogant fools. Ohio State sucked this year, and there's no way they could have put together an 11-1 season, even against lesser competition.

I think that we all need to calm down here first of all...

Second, we did lose to Miami in a bad game (I think I broke out the Captains before the start of the fourth quarter)

The Purdue loss was not pretty, we should have scored more and our D should have played better but in the end it came down to execution on special teams not blocking for an extra point. It's not excusing the loss but I wouldn't exactly see C-USA teams keeping it as close as they did.

Toldeo was not pretty either but in the end it was a win and thats all I'll say

With the coaching we might have struggled in C-USA, I don't think it would be a foregone conclusion that we would lose though

The real point was that Houston's schedule this year was awful and not comparable to Penn State's schedule. They lost to Wisconsin, Alabama, and Nebraska. The best team Houston beat was 6-7 UCLA.

The best team they beat was Tulsa. But even more importantly, they won 11 games, which is difficult to do no matter your competition. Ohio State, given their performance throughout the year, could not have pulled that off.

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Ohio State sucking this year had a lot more to do with playing a tough schedule

No. Ohio State lost to numerous mediocre/bad teams, and they barely beat Toledo. Also, of the 6 games they won, only one of them was against a top team, so you could flip your argument and say that the only reason Ohio State managed to win 6 games is because they beat easy teams.

A team like Ohio State or Florida who won 6 games and was bad this year by Big Ten, SEC power conference standards being able to win 10 or 11 games with the same weak schedule Houston played is very debatable.

You can talk all day about who we beat (wisconsin was a great win), but the fact is OSU beats Michigan if Miller doesn't overthrow Posey on the last drive, OSU beats Purdue if they don't get the XP blocked, OSU had a big lead on Nebraska before Miller got hurt. They had a chance to beat Penn State. They lost to MSU at home by 3. What is Houston's record if they have to play @Michigan, vs Michigan State, vs Wisconsin, vs Penn State, @Purdue, @Illinois, @Miami this year? They don't win 11. They might win more than 6, but no more than 7 or 8.

The fact is that we aren't in C-USA and will never know. It would have been very up in the air, we could have won and we might not have. I'm not exactly proud of that and would really like to just forget this season and move on with Meyer.

just b/c they could have won 7 games in the Big Ten doesn't mean Ohio State couldn't win 10 or 11 games in CUSA though. OSU easily could have won 2 more games this year. Two plays were the difference between 6-6 and 8-4 for them this year between the missed TD pass to Posey in Ann Arbor and the blocked XP against Purdue.

The fact is that we aren't in C-USA and will never know. It would have been very up in the air, we could have won and we might not have. I'm not exactly proud of that and would really like to just forget this season and move on with Meyer.

I agree. If I was an Ohio State fan I wouldn't waste much time arguing about the degree to which my team sucked this year (because no matter how you break it down, they sucked).

Man stinking is an understatement we sucked more black **** than a ******* prostitute in vegas dude.

Our run defense gave up like 25.4 yards per carry and our secondary at times looked straight up tarded. In addition to extreme inexperience at WR, and QB. what the **** everyone would expect this year? ohh... NATIONALZZZ TITLEZ CUZ ITS OSU!!1111

On a side note, and this does not include you lime - I think it's hilarious how so many ohio state fans get so hostile when someone says they blow. It's like they cover their ears and start going "LALALALALA" I can't hear you! but you?! whoever your team is, they suckzzz. osuzz plays the best footballzz evrrz.

Man stinking is an understatement we sucked more black **** than a ******* prostitute in vegas dude.

Our run defense gave up like 25.4 yards per carry and our secondary at times looked straight up tarded. In addition to extreme inexperience at WR, and QB. what the **** everyone would expect this year? ohh... NATIONALZZZ TITLEZ CUZ ITS OSU!!1111

On a side note, and this does not include you lime - I think it's hilarious how so many ohio state fans get so hostile when someone says they blow. It's like they cover their ears and start going "LALALALALA" I can't hear you! but you?! whoever your team is, they suckzzz. osuzz plays the best footballzz evrrz.

I'm so ******* sick of how spoiled our fanbase has become.

/end rant.

I really hope your not pointing at me here, I like to think I am a realist when it comes to the Buckeyes... I don't even think we should be in a bowl game this year...

I really hope your not pointing at me here, I like to think I am a realist when it comes to the Buckeyes... I don't even think we should be in a bowl game this year...

I'm not pointing at you. Or anyone off the top of my head. My family is a bunch of the traditional fans. By that I mean they're all wearing scarlet glasses. BP has massive homers. ******* massive. Like I said, wasn't pointing at you man. I was just ranting and I guess that conversation just sent me over the edge. It seems like when someone says osu blows the fans have an immediate reaction to be like **** you, we're ohio state, rather than just suck it up and agree.

Jeff Demps and Rainey are going to make us look so ******* stupid. ****.