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I'm completely disagree with that panel who did pick the model, the CES demo item.

We are, customers, should vote !
Only AFTER first months of using in MASS, not by the "looker" at dish booth.
We are, who are still have problems with 922 (722s), we are who cannot get properly working Sling adapter with Hopper [2000].

I'm completely disagree with that panel who did pick the model, the CES demo item.

We are, customers, should vote !Only AFTER first months of using in MASS, not by the "looker" at dish booth.We are, who are still have problems with 922 (722s), we are who cannot get properly working Sling adapter with Hopper [2000].

We, not they !

1) Pretty much everything at CES is a demo product.

2) It's a best in show award, not a consumers' choice award. How are we supposed to choose best in show for a show we didn't go to?

The postings on this site are my own and don't represent Dish's positions, strategies, or opinions.

Advertisers pay for those viewers to see their ads. Prime Time is the big time for advertisers. So they will reduce their ad fees and to make up for it, the networks will charge DISH higher re-trans fees.

All for just a FEW Commercials skipped.

Seems worth it to me.

My point being, if they pull all programming from Dish, they'll lose all ad revenue based on how many million potential viewers?

Had CBS said, "We won't award the "new and innovative, Share your DISH programming with a Neighbor box, until it's lawsuits from DISH Network and DirecTV are resolved, Charlie would have applauded their actions.

It is not the same thing. CBS is not a party to your theoretical service sharing lawsuit. In that example, CBS would be taking a moral stand to support someone they felt was wronged. Not a self serving decision.

If it's a great invention, it can get an award next year, after the lawsuits are settled.

It isn't new next year ... that award will have to go to the "Hopper 3".

Yep. Yet another example of Charlie poking the very industry he relies on and must negotiate with directly in the eye.

And I find it refreshing. If Charlie didn't push for it, there might not be local-into-local or at the least would have taken longer, no one would carry the Superstations, and no one would advance the technology of commercial skipping or again, would have taken alot longer. Dish has done some dumb things, as most companies at times will do ("New Coke") but they also are the only ones to challenge the concept that the networks or even the FCC will determine what and how we will watch TV.

And I find it refreshing. If Charlie didn't push for it, there might not be local-into-local or at the least would have taken longer, no one would carry the Superstations, and no one would advance the technology of commercial skipping or again, would have taken alot longer. Dish has done some dumb things, as most companies at times will do ("New Coke") but they also are the only ones to challenge the concept that the networks or even the FCC will determine what and how we will watch TV.

Commercial skipping technology is not good. If you understood the correlation between ad revenue and production costs, you would understand that as well. Interfering with a substantial revenue stream for a content owner and then having to negotiate with them for retrans? Idiotic...Charlie...same thing. There is a reason DirecTV had the technology a long time ago and chose not to use. Please, Charlie doesn't do anything for the benefit of the customers unless it happens as a byproduct of his main objective...feeding his own ego.

I might suggest a compromise, DISH disables the feature automatically on shows with 10 minutes (or less) of commercials per hour.

I, for one, can't remember 24 minutes worth of commercials per hour any how. Does the economic model of television fail with 10 minutes/hour of commercials at a prorated $$$ level versus 24 minutes/hour for the same $$$ ?

There, I just fixed the problem. Now, I'm going out and fix Social Security this afternoon . . .

Commercial skipping technology is not good. If you understood the correlation between ad revenue and production costs, you would understand that as well. Interfering with a substantial revenue stream for a content owner and then having to negotiate with them for retrans? Idiotic...Charlie...same thing. There is a reason DirecTV had the technology a long time ago and chose not to use. Please, Charlie doesn't do anything for the benefit of the customers unless it happens as a byproduct of his main objective...feeding his own ego.

You know I completely forgot that your opinion is widely regarded as fact:rolleyes:

Yeah, I think that people are going to one day wish that we were back in the days when commercials were separate pieces from the actual TV shows.

Here's the simple issue: networks get their money primarily from what companies are willing to pay for commercial time. So, let's say consumers have a simple way to skip all commercials and decide to do so. One of a couple of things will happen: the networks will get their funds in some other manner, one of which is what gets charged to providers. Or they will find ways to put commercials in shows in ways we can't skip over. Product placement already occurs, but I would predict what would be more prevalent would be commercials running over the show as the show is playing. We already have the irritating ads for other TV shows running across the bottom of shows; imagine animated ads for peanut butter and pepsi and insurance running over the bottom of every show's episodes.

We won't get away from commercials, so be careful what you wish for. Eliminate what we have today, and it will be replaced with something pretty intrusive.

then I'm envision more and more people will show middle finger and switching to renting or Internet download w/out ads what are ruining pleasure of watching what you want and how you want;
after all it's my TV and it's my time !

I might suggest a compromise, DISH disables the feature automatically on shows with 10 minutes (or less) of commercials per hour.

From the start, I think it's been clear that Charlie sees ad-skipping as a bargaining chip. I don't think he'd be willing to disable it for certain channels, that might upset customers, but he might be willing, for example, to do something like monitor the skipping and pay the stations a bit more based on it. In exchange, of course, for them not suing him and not offering the same deal to others.

And Autohop is not a one time selection, it has to be chosen each time you watch a show. So it isn't as non-obtrusive, nor does it make one not watch ads less than they would if they just did 30 second skips.