GAT_00:Is this another thread where we pretend that there wasn't an armed security guard at Columbine who actually shot at the gunmen there?

Use it however you want. Just don't pretend that this story will be given the same coverage as the tragic ones. My guess is that this school's choir doesn't get invited to sing at the Superbowl next year.

Anderson's Pooper:GAT_00: Is this another thread where we pretend that there wasn't an armed security guard at Columbine who actually shot at the gunmen there?

Use it however you want. Just don't pretend that this story will be given the same coverage as the tragic ones. My guess is that this school's choir doesn't get invited to sing at the Superbowl next year.

When was the last time that a thwarted mugging was given a lot of coverage on the news?

austerity101:Anderson's Pooper: GAT_00: Is this another thread where we pretend that there wasn't an armed security guard at Columbine who actually shot at the gunmen there?

Use it however you want. Just don't pretend that this story will be given the same coverage as the tragic ones. My guess is that this school's choir doesn't get invited to sing at the Superbowl next year.

When was the last time that a thwarted mugging was given a lot of coverage on the news?

"Next on 11 Breaking News: Tonight, over three hundred million Americans did not die in violent gun attack. More details after the break."

They should count the good guys, but there is no possible way. A great majority of "good" gun encounters are the kind where the good guy shows his/her gun and the bad guy just backs off; no report is ever made.

It's not a gun control problem; it's a people control problem. Until someone figures out how to either control humanity or breed violence out; we will be a small people; a silly people; barbarous and cruel.

Seems like there is a difference here. Those two guys intended to rob him according to the article. That strikes me as a little different situation than "two guys bent on killing people for shock value".

pedrop357:AverageAmericanGuy: Carrying a gun into a school should be a federal offense.

Why?

What part of the Constitution gives the government the power to make such a law?

The Constitution can be amended. The rules written by a handful of rich, white, racist slaveowners 200 years ago can be changed, and should be changed if they fail to keep up with fundamental changes to our American culture.

It can't be denied that people are outraged and horrified at the sheer volume of gun violence news these days.

austerity101:When was the last time that a thwarted mugging was given a lot of coverage on the news?

That's my point. News stories where guns are used responsibly and effectively are typically ignored by the press. If they treated the tragic stories the same, perhaps we wouldn't see as many copycats. I blame the 24/7 news cycle for extending the life of a lot of these stories.

It's not a gun control problem; it's a people control problem. Until someone figures out how to either control humanity or breed violence out; we will be a small people; a silly people; barbarous and cruel.

The fact that someone tried to put this story up as an example of the "Good Guy With a Gun" lie only shows how desperate for actual examples they are.

iheartscotch:It's not a gun control problem; it's a people control problem. Until someone figures out how to either control humanity or breed violence out; we will be a small people; a silly people; barbarous and cruel.

AverageAmericanGuy:The Constitution can be amended. The rules written by a handful of rich, white, racist slaveowners 200 years ago can be changed, and should be changed if they fail to keep up with fundamental changes to our American culture.

It can't be denied that people are outraged and horrified at the sheer volume of gun violence news these days.

In other worse, we amend the constitution to allow the government to make it a federal offense to possess a gun on school grounds?

That sounds like a good idea, and should definitely show those school shooters.

Anderson's Pooper:austerity101: When was the last time that a thwarted mugging was given a lot of coverage on the news?

That's my point. News stories where guns are used responsibly and effectively are typically ignored by the press. If they treated the tragic stories the same, perhaps we wouldn't see as many copycats. I blame the 24/7 news cycle for extending the life of a lot of these stories.

Even *successful* muggings are given virtually no air time. This story will be largely ignored not because it isn't tragic, but because it isn't as compelling a story as a larger crisis such as a school shooting.

If a school shooting were stopped by a guy with a gun, we'd hear about it. Sadly, that doesn't happen very often, if ever.

Anderson's Pooper:That's my point. News stories where guns are used responsibly and effectively are typically ignored by the press. If they treated the tragic stories the same, perhaps we wouldn't see as many copycats. I blame the 24/7 news cycle for extending the life of a lot of these stories.

87 people were killed by guns yesterday (and today, and tomorrow, and...) and I don't recall seeing a front page, 30-point font headline on CNN.com about any of those either.

They should count the good guys, but there is no possible way. A great majority of "good" gun encounters are the kind where the good guy shows his/her gun and the bad guy just backs off; no report is ever made.

Maybe you should be encouraging your fellow "good guys with guns" to report crimes to law enforcement, so that you'd have something other than a bare assertion pulled from your ass.

austerity101:If a school shooting were stopped by a guy with a gun, we'd hear about it. Sadly, that doesn't happen very often, if ever.

Well, given that CCW holders can't carry in schools in 46 or states, and most schools don't have even a single armed resource officer/security guard/police officer, I suppose that's why it doesn't happen.

Why did he shoot the unarmed kid? Is it legal to shoot an unarmed person in Michigan because they were with an armed person attempting to rob you? When I took the class for my CCW here in Cali, we were told we couldn't shoot people who were unarmed and/or posed no immediate threat. We have to BE threatened, not simply FEEL threatened.

pedrop357:Well, given that CCW holders can't carry in schools in 46 or states, and most schools don't have even a single armed resource officer/security guard/police officer, I suppose that's why it doesn't happen.

So the tens of millions of people in those 4 states isn't a large enough sample size for you?