You don’t get this opportunity very often … me debating a productivity giant like Tim Ferriss on one of the most controversial things I write about: having no goal.

Tim and I face off in this no-holds-barred smackdown, and it gets ugly towards the end. I start swearing, and Tim starts crying.

Tim, who just launched his massive new book, The 4-Hour Chef has accomplished an amazing array of goals. He’s a master.

I’ve accomplished a few goals myself, but in the last couple of years have experimented with letting them go. Most people don’t agree with me, and while I’m OK with that, I thought it would be fun to have a debate on the issue.