Grabovski is a much better center and we could get him for horcoff money, several others as well. I don't get why Dallas made this deal, they are getting a very diminished talent.

The difference is that Horcoff was had $4 million and $3 million left on his contract. Grabovski had four years of $5 million plus left on his contract. If Dallas wanted him, the could have picked up his contract from waivers for free... and they didn't.

The difference is that Horcoff was had $4 million and $3 million left on his contract. Grabovski had four years of $5 million plus left on his contract. If Dallas wanted him, the could have picked up his contract from waivers for free... and they didn't.

I speaking of Grabovski as a Free agent now, I would have not taken that contract as well. What do you think he will get now as a free agent ?

We'll see tomorrow after they fail to replace Horcoff and sign a couple desperate over the hill guys & fringe players while owner pockets the cash. They go into the season at least $10 million under cap. No legit UFAs sign with Oilers. Name 1 in the last 20 years beside Souray and didn't that turn out swell

We'll see tomorrow after they fail to replace Horcoff and overpay a couple over the hill guys & fringe players while the owner pockets the cash. No legit UFAs sign with Oilers. Name 1 in the last 20 years beside Souray and didn't that turn out swell

Umm... Justin Schultz was probably one of the most significant UFA signings in the last few years. 30 teams were after him.

We'll see tomorrow after they fail to replace Horcoff and overpay a couple over the hill guys & fringe players while the owner pockets the cash. No legit UFAs sign with Oilers. Name 1 in the last 20 years beside Souray and didn't that turn out swell

you don't need a legit player to replace Horc, he became useless. Andropov would be better and cost less money.

We'll see tomorrow after they fail to replace Horcoff and sign a couple desperate over the hill guys & fringe players while owner pockets the cash. They go into the season at least $10 million under cap. No legit UFAs sign with Oilers. Name 1 in the last 20 years beside Souray and didn't that turn out swell

I actually think we should've made a push for Seguin, but oh well. You can party in Edmonton, but it's not as crazy as out East I think and he'd get over it after maturing.

Mac T did good by clearing out Horcoff, but now the hard begins in actually bringing in players that can contribute and help the team. We've been able to clear "house" several times already.

We don't have an Eriksson to trade away though. They'd want one of the big 4, and I don't think it's worth it. Not to mention they also got Joe Morrow. So we'd have to give up Klefbom, Nurse, or Marincin.

It really relates to what role he's going to play. Is he a genuine second line centre? If so, is he better or worse than Bozak who is asking for near $5 million per year?

If the Oilers didn't sign gagner, then I could see the Oilers have interest in him as a 2nd line centre for Yakupov.

That thought has crossed my mind too ! Gagner is too soft and had a good year (contract year) but how many people on this site complained about his play for a few years now. Even this year, he sucked a lot of times. The problem with him is if he's not going 110%, he is bad.

Not to change the subject with Gagner (too late i guess) but this upcomming contract has me a little worried...

You should check out some of the highlight reels and scouting reports that were posted here when he was acquired. He looks like a real gem just entering his prime, and one with a helluva toolbox. The history of players like him who came over to the NHL late in their career and flopped is long, so I think expectations are being held to reasonable levels, but he should make the team and I don't think many would be flabbergasted if he's playing in the Top 4 (and playing well) by Christmas.

Thanks. I missed when the Belov signing was announced and the thread discussing it quickly disappeared but has returned to front page now. Good to hear we've retained another D that could be seeing the lineup. I've looked through more of the info. Still the big question of how the player adapts to the NHL game.

Don't get why so many people are raging about missing out on Seguin. First of all, there's nothing to say definitively that we didn't try.

Secondly, if we're looking at a comparable return from our side (keeping in mind Boston wants to win now) it's pretty much...

Eberle <= Eriksson
Musil < Morrow
Pitlick <Frazer

So just going with direct comparables, we can say it would have been Eberle + Musil + Pitlick + 2nd or something, but problem is, Eriksson makes $4.25M and is more proven than Eberle, who makes $6M. Boston needs to cut cap. So we would have to send back another cheap player to make up the cap difference, someone like Paajarvi, and we would have to add to make up the current difference between Eberle and Eriksson, and that's even if we could get the cap to work out. More likely, we would have needed to give up a player like Yakupov, and then some.

How many people really wanted to give up something like...

Yakupov + Musil + Pitlick + 2014 1st
for
Seguin + Peverley

And I wouldn't be surprised if it would have cost us even more as the gap between Yakupov and Eriksson is huge right now.

in return hfor horcoff when both parties needed to go seperate ways to remain healthy.

WOW.

Cap space doesn't play hockey very well.

That said Horcoffs days were done in Edmonton. Its unfortunate but professional sports are an entertainment and players are affected by ignorant fan behaviours.

One has to wonder who is going to get the gears now... seeing as Gagner is sorry Horcoff is gone, one suspects Gagner is now thinking its going to be him. Good luck signing any players to a deal seeing as all they can expect to get from Edmonton is disdain.

That said Horcoffs days were done in Edmonton. Its unfortunate but professional sports are an entertainment and players are affected by ignorant fan behaviours.

One has to wonder who is going to get the gears now... seeing as Gagner is sorry Horcoff is gone, one suspects Gagner is now thinking its going to be him. Good luck signing any players to a deal seeing as all they can expect to get from Edmonton is disdain.

Yeah I've been aware of this team for the past 20 years, thanks for wanting to clear that up with me. Im glad we got that settled.

I'm sure there's an upgrade out there somewhere. Be it free agency or trades.

Off season just started. I'm a broken record; basically you guys are disliking the trade because it makes a hole that is not filled immediately.

Give it some ****ing time. Jesus.

Some really intelligent moves by MacTavish today. Trading Horcoff to free up cap space and acquire a skilled, young right handed defenseman in Larsen is a coup imo. Adding Ference, Gordon, Labarbera, Joensuu without subtracting from the line up is fantastic. MacTavish does need to make one or two more deals to shore up the remainder of the roster some more, but today has been very successful in adding useful players from free agency. MacTavish has the rest of the summer to help some other teams with cap space issues move players.

Steering clear of most of the big name free agents makes sense, since they usually require significant over payments and long terms that often don't make a whole lot of sense. Still, I'd like to see MacArthur become an Oiler.

as long as we dont go into "tard" mode tomorrow, the 'tar will be likely changed this weekend.

if offended i suggest those people dont look, or move to a country not practicing free speech, expression. I am not here to appease you.

you're being pretty ignorant to a guy who was just hoping you'd explain why you have an avatar that shows hatred to the oilers.
he didn't say you couldn't. maybe he too was just using his free speech.
geeze, pal.

anyway, so far so good for MacT. let's see how the gagner negotiation goes.
hopefully the free agent season has given them a better indication of his value.