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Trade Talk Rd5 – PART TWOp

Written by Schwarzwalder on April 17 2019

With so many trades in hand and plenty of slow-burning rookies, Coaches are becoming very creative in their trade plans. But a little creativity might just give you the edge over the next few weeks. So who is in this week? Who is making way?

Looking at going gibbons to obrien via setterfield/bines. Opens up the dpp mid swing which is nice.
I think the Jacobs injury will cause him to miss for a couple of more weeks. And evenif he’s back next week, surely the crows keep obrien in? Hes playinh well enough, and they need to try something different!!

Trade Gibbons to a fwd by selecting the S on W Setterfield thus switching him to the midfield and allowing you to select a forward. Due to Bines possessing forward eligibility press S on Bines to switch the fwd to a ruck. This will allow you to select O’Brien thus replacing Gibbons and in the process moving W Setterfield to M11 and P Bines to F8.

Traded out hore the other week for duursma. But his BE is tasty.. do i trade him in for burgess for some better cash growth?
Other defender rookies are scrimshaw, duursma, clarke and collins so the slow burn of burgess isnt all bad.

T/u quick cash the better choice
T/d plenty of other rookies there, slow burn will do

That age factor is different for different players mate. We saw both Hurn and Westhoff have career best seasons last year. They’re well into their 30s. Mundy is one who from memory had a 110 avg season at the age of 30. Simmo: avged 105 at an age where he should’ve been in a nursing home. I get that these players are the exceptions rather than the norm, but I believe there are far more important factors to consider when picking players than age (role, team success, uninterrupted pre-seasons etc) and that players are perfectly capable of playing close to their full potential right up until the age of 34/35. This scoring streak from Boak has shown that he’s still capable of scoring like a premo if he has an inside mid role, in spite of his age, and that whilst it’s unreasonable to expect him to keep pumping out these scores, he could finish the season averaging 105 quite comfortably.

Why is everyone so set on ditchint butters? Had one god arwful score but he is a rookie, gonna happen. Before last week he had put up very decent scores and fit very well as a mid 8 for now. Personally unless he is dropped, im gonna start him on the field this week and save a trade

williams is loos’n pts to whitfield ,scoring @ his price point now , might aswell hold unless u get a flyer you can jump on
dunkley is loos’n pts to libba , will only drop another 50k ,
better off holding both now & hoping for injuries in the dogs midfield or GWS 1/2 back line

i think last year bont played fwd because they had no goal kickers
this year the dogs recruited fwds & their existing fwds are more experienced
bont isn’t required as a fwd now & is instead in the middle beating dunkley to the ball & the CP’s
roll changes taking another scalp

Everyone (premos) is over-priced at the beginning of the year because of the way that the pricing / scoring system works. So at his starting price, you’d have expected around 90-95 average. He’s at 82, so realistically, he’s only dropped 32-52 points (depending on anticipated average). Not worth losing your mind over, unless you see no way for him to get closer to that 90-95 range.

I have $314k in the bank. 29 trades left. Decided to forgo downgrading – Stack and Ross’s JS is not really inspiring. Currently liking the looks of Sicily (would be D3 behind Lloyd and Whitfield, Smith at D4)to upgrade to, from Butters.

T/U: Do it (23k + 28 trades left)

T/D: Hold, Boak and Neale more important/Butters still more to make/insert other reason in comments

Thats an excellent point – after reading your reply, I had a look at the fwds available and the fallen premos article… Sicily is in my opinion a top 6 defender, while I can’t really place the fwds, but Billings is throwing up the sort of disposal numbers that virtually guarantee at least 80 every week, so he’d be my pick for the fwds, which leads me to my next question: For Butters,

Looking to upgrade to Tim Kelly and Clayton Oliver in the next few weeks whilst their prices are low. Tim Kelly’s got that 39 from last week, so that score will give him a high break-even for the next 2 rounds. Oliver’s price is also likely to drop more, and should still be a top-8 mid.

Thats a banging midfield – you’ll likely be killing it later on when they all click! I guess with your team its all about finding the moneymakers or in-form premos, so I’d say Whitfield and perhaps ROB (via a Bines swing) might be two good trades for you to look at? Good luck!

Mulling Oliver to Yeo…netting 70kish. Concerned about Oliver’s crazy high BE and remits by Yeos relatively low BE as he seems to be moving into some decent form. Risky trade…agreed. Is it worth the punt?

I think the ROB trade is a good one and would do that this week.
Not sold on Dunkley out just to bring in Kelly next week. My reasoning is: (1) Kelly is set to lose more money over the next two rounds than Dunkley is (40k versus 25k) so it will be cheaper to get Kelly in 2 weeks from now; (2) it gives you a chance to see if Dunkley can turn it around a bit against Carlton / Fremantle before you pull the trigger, (3) cows will have fattened a bit more so another option might present itself to get Kelly in, and (4) gives you a chance to see if Kelly’s ankle is still bothering him.

Looking at my team & wishing I’d left myself a nice & handy $100k in the bank at the start of the season, as would love this week to get rid of 2 rookies and do an upgrade, but don’t have any cash to spend. So probably no trades again, still have 30.
Although I could trade out J Clark & Butters, and via some DPP, trade in Stack & R Marshall as F4 (who I know nothing about but seems to going well – anyone offer any insight?)

TU: Out – Clark & Butters, In – Stack & Marshall
TD: No trades – as it still leaves me with no cash for future upgrades.

Toying with the idea of trading Goldstein to Mumford and Bines to O’Brien.
If Mumford continues as he has started they should average roughly the same and I make some money for an upgrade elsewhere. O’Brien is a handy back-up who will make money if he plays or a loop-hole like Bines if he doesn’t.

Goldstein to Mummy could be considered an unnecessary trade. I vote no.

If you want to bring on ROB, swing Bines forward. Chillo, RooBloke, AS, or someone else mentioned this in a thread on the site. This type of lateral thinking is much more effective in getting the ca$h gen and keeping your sides flexibility.

Really like Mummy as at least a stepping stone to eventually Grundy and i think he has 200k in him. O’Brien number one ruck for 6 weeks has over 200k also. I believe Boak is at least a top 6 fwd all year and is crushing it atm… torn. I have 316k banked and used one trade (Greene to Parker so far).
Thanks guys

With the news of Jacobs being out for 4-6 weeks, is it worth a straight swap now Sweet to O’Brien purely for cash generation? Still have 30 trades remaining and Setters as a captaincy loophole the next two weeks
TU: Yes
TD: No

Looking at trading sweet for O’Brien. For this to happen I need to trade gibbons. What I can’t decide is should I trade gibbons for stack or roll the dice and trade in Ross (rich) with just one game under his belt?

Then I might possibly go Setterfield/Parker up to Marshall. This would use all my bank which is a risk so I’m tempted to hold fire and keep generating cash to let loose on some falling premo’s in the coming weeks.

T/D – English > ROB
– upgrade Burgess or parker to premo in defence or attack (400k left after english trade)
This will leave me with not much money in the kitty

I want to get on the rocky train before it is too late but I am thinking my midfield is very strong already and happy to keep leaving walsh and constable on the field. Whereas my backline especially is quite weak with sicily, witherden, williams, smith, scrimshaw, hore (clark, burgess)
And my forward line is quite thin as well with Danger, heeney, kelly, moore, drew, parker (setters, fettucine)
Thanks for the help and RIP timmy english 🙁

2. Considering trading Goldstein for O’Brien in order to bring in Whitfield/Lloyd, this would also send Moore FWD leaving only one on field FWD rookie. Essentially I will be fielding O’Brien instead of a FWD rookie and Whitfield/Lloyd for Goldstein.

Bit of a crazy idea with Goldstein playing well enough but I figure I’ll be going to Grundy at some point anyway.

Gibbons -> O’Brien (Setters to the midfield, Bines to the forward bench)

Just too much money to be made in O’Brien with Sauce out to pass it up, and I’ve got a sneaking suspicion Gibbons might come out of the Carlton line-up. And struggle to break back in. Also works well to keep Bines on the forward bench for some loopholing, and when O’Brien is ready to go he can be replaced with a forward or midfield bubble boy via DPP, giving me more flexibility than if I didn’t have a ruck DPP.

Depending on selections, I’m also eyeing off Burgess to either Hore or Rotham. Most likely Hore. I know these guys aren’t guaranteed good job security, but the fact that they’re “next in line” and performing well when selected makes me think they’ll get games. Only need them to play 3-5 games and they’ll make $150-200k.

If you haven’t had to burn a bunch of other trades already, and you don’t have any other pressing concerns, I think it’s a reasonable move to make. Swap out a player who will not make any money at all, for one who makes north of $200k if he continues on his current average for 4-6 weeks (which is supposedly how long Sauce is likely to be out for post-surgery).

Backline is fine I think it is the most reliable line to field 3 rookies.
as for Westhoff hes spewing cash u might be better off to field Bines onground instead bahaha. On a serious note u have a solid defense structure, really good mids & optimum rucks! do you still see Westhoff as top 10 even if port get the reliable Dixon or Marshall back fwd ??

Positives:
200 K in the bank for future upgrade
Upgrade O’brien in the future for a fwd & return Bines to Ruck loop enabling dp link with Lobb
Creates ruck coverage for regular season & the byes even if Obrien is traded prior
its different, not many teams structures would allow it
good cash generation from O’brien & likewise Mummy (est: 400-500k)
my team is already sucking a fat one may aswell take a risk

Negatives:
Its 2 trades for very small points gain (est 10-20)
plus another trade to upgrade/downgrade O’brien in the future
Mummy isnt reliable & im kinda banking on him to be a keeper if i do this trade…
weekens fwd line rookie coverage
Setterfield is not plump for the cull
I still dont have Grundy……damn u & your big toe!!!!

TD: Dont even think about it…your a penut
TU: Do it…your still a penut

what u say makes a ton of sense from a point gain & onfield structural view infact it all makes perfect sense & is the right trade……..but oh my do I love Mummy’s big man boobs covering me during the byes………(big) if he stays on the park & lets face it thats the problem with my double dp sausage trade….think I might have myself a nibble

Gday guys, I’m having a bit of a mental blank atm. I usually trade earlier in the week but this week I’ve had to do it later, which leads me to my question. Can I reverse my trades after tonight’s game (as long as it’s not a Pies or Brissie player) or can I not reverse trades full stop once the first game of the round starts?

Have 30 trades and 210k in bank.
Looking to trade polec for either bont or Libba. Polec doesn’t look like averaging over 100 and his price is dropping. Libba is on the up so I’ll make some money from the swap. Bont will be a top mid
TU bont
TD libba

I Have all 30 trades I think it’s time
to use one! I will bring in ROB
I probably want to keep Bines as
my permanent loophole.
The candidates to get the boot
would be Gibbons, Setterfield or
Parker.
Tu: Gibbons
Td: Setterfield
Comment: Parker.

…a few years ago i started with Witts and it proved to be a successful move….i know there are a lot of “what ifs” and pro’s and con’s…but trading Gawn to ROB nets me a war chest of $650k to use next week on two premiums

my major concern is trading ROB when he his fully fat to the most inform Ruck at the time but with baby cows being born each way i think it can be managed

if i make the trade and with cows fattening i can then snag another two premos next week with a further two over the following fortnight..

Hey guys. Just had 2 late drop outs from one of our $50 cash leagues, so 2 spots left to fill if anyone is interested. Email me at supercoachwithdr@outlook.com if you would like a spot. Would love to get this filled! Cheers. DR

In all seriousness COVID should at least be some consideration for team composition. Spread the risk and expect outs – avoid too many players on a single team and job security is a key factor for rookie cover. Unless whole league shuts down…