I think it's more to do with preferring your own kind to others. You can love your own kind and not care about the others. If you want a WN nation, it will be at the expense of non-whites residents. In short, it's because you don't tolerate the presence of non-whites. So many will view it as hatred/intolerance towards non-whites.

Also, there are many pro-whites who don't necessarily want segregation/seperation for example.

The trouble is that two races that live in the same space will always tend to mix and erode the Ethnic Genetic Interests of the two previous races.

It isn't about tolerance or intolerance, it's about wanting our race to continue to exist, among other things, and acknowledging certain facts that pertain.

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Nothing is wrong with being pro-white (loving your race, preferring your culture and raising racial awareness among your kind) but when it infringes on the rights of others (non-whites) then surely anyone can see why many equate it to hatred towards others.

In other words, we're allowed to love our race, we just aren't allowed to protect it.

Sandee, I feel certain we've had this conversation before, but I'll try to get through again.

First of all, the redress of grievances often involves the ostensible violation of rights. When one puts someone in prison for committing a crime, for example, one could argue (disingenuously) that his rights are being violated.

More to the point, rights are constantly violated in the public interest. When a new road or bridge or other public work is to be built, if citizens are in residence on the land involved, they are involuntarily moved out of the way and paid market value for their property. They have no say in the matter once the courts have decided.

The white race's rights have been violated from day one by white elites. When blacks were emancipated from their white minority elite ownership and freed into the general population, white rights were violated en masse; the white population was never consulted on having its living space invaded by huge numbers of blacks. Don't bother with the slavery line - setting the slavery issue right would've been better served by returning the slaves to their points of origin than by simply turning them loose in the country where they were held.

Similarly, the 90% white population of 1965 America was never once consulted about the demographic changes that were about to be unleashed upon them by open-borders immigration, much less honestly informed about the intent or effect of the impending legislation. I'm 100% certain that this skullduggery was essential to getting the legislation passed; if white America had been asked, she would've said no.

Similarly, the all-white populations of Europe were never asked about the opening of their borders to the third world and Muslim immigration, or even told of the event. Had they been asked, they would've said no too.

Even now, decades of multicult propaganda later, the white populations of America and Europe would end mass non-white population if asked, and would do so resoundingly if they had a clue about the realities well-known to WNs.

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But if the majority were for segregation for example, I'd see no problem with them having their own seperate state/nation.

That's easy for you to say here and now, since the media forbids discussion of the matter and so the majority is deprived of the right to even hear a discussion of the matter.

I'm here to tell you, if there was such a discussion whites would be in favor of it (after a sufficient hearing, since they've been getting decades of one point of view, a totally hostile one, for years from their teevees and magazines and books and radios).

Nonsense. We're taxed to pay for welfare, education, and health care for mestizos and blacks. That sounds like oppression to me. We're taxed (causing us to be less able to sustain families) so mestizos and blacks can sustain families. That sounds like oppression to me. We're discriminated against by policies with Orwellian names like "affirmative action" and "anti-discrimination law." That sounds like oppression to me. We're preyed upon by the mestizo and black criminal classes. That sounds like oppression to me. We're told who we may choose to live among, send our children to school with, do business with, go to church with, etc. That sounds like oppression to me. We're sold out by our elites to a mestizo and non-white invasion on a massive scale (contrary to monolithic public opposition), by elites who don't and won't live near the invaders they allow in. That sounds like oppression to me. We're forced to listen to endless propaganda about how the white man is the source of all evil in schools funded by our tax dollars, in advertisements and television programs and movies paid for by our disposable income, in workplaces run on our sweat, in churches paid for by our tithes. That sounds like oppression to me. We've been ethnically cleansed from our own cities. That sounds like oppression to me. Then we have to hear schmucks like you come in here and tell us we're whiners for not sucking it all up like good little saps. That sounds like oppression to me.

Imagine that within the current borders of America a WN state is created. Apply "Ceteris Paribus" across the board; in other words, this WN state is exactly like "old" America except it's for whites only.

The rest I'll leave to your imagination. How many white Americans would move there, over time?

I think it would be quicker to count how many wouldn't move there, or maybe to calculate the carrying capacity of its area because it would fill up quickly.

Whites would move there in the millions. Maybe 10-20% of the white population, tops, would refuse to move based on moral qualms. I think that's a high estimate.

Of course, your soccer-mom types would be the first ones to fill up their minivans and burn rubber.

... (ceteris paribus) the vast majority of white people would flock there in droves, pack it full to the gills. They'd all be singing kumbaya and "we're all equal" the whole way there, friend. They'd be thinking the exact same sorts of things they think while engaging in white flight:

"well, I'm not a racist, but there's the whole crime issue to think about, and I want a safe place to raise my kids";

"well, I'm not a racist, but I'd like to be able to do business in English, to bring my kids up in a school where English is the undisputed language, where they can learn about their own ancestors instead of the ancestors of alien peoples, where they don't have to hear how evil Europeans are";

"well, I'm not a racist, but I'd like my children to be able to get a scholarship, where they don't have to worry about being held down so a less qualified person can be lifted up just to fill a quota";

"well, I'm not a racist, but it'd be nice to have freedom of association back";

"well, I'm not a racist, but it'd be nice to not have to worry about offending people by simply speaking the truth";

"well, I'm not a racist, but it'd be nice to not have to hear "Allahuakbar" blaring out from those loudspeakers";

"well, I'm not a racist, but it'd be nice to live where we can celebrate Christmas, and Easter, and every other Christian holiday in public without worrying about offending some New York Jew";

"well, I'm not a racist, but it'd be nice to just GIVE UP the whole racial spoils game, the whole 'I love diversity, even the kind that eats dogs, kamikazis skyscrapers, rapes kids to cure AIDS, insults my kids for doing their homework, stones women for having sex, etc.,";

"well, I'm not a racist, but it'd be nice to live where my insurance premiums aren't jacked up to cover the costs of uninsured mestizo drunk drivers, potential discrimination lawsuits, etc.,";

"well, I'm not a racist, but it'd be nice to live where I can keep the money that now comes out of my check to go to pay for black and mestizo failure and black single mothers";

"well, I'm not a racist, but it'd be nice to live in a society where black malfeasance isn't the unspoken excuse for gun-grabbers everywhere, where the mean IQ is high enough and the mean testosterone level is low enough that young bucks won't be wacking one another at epidemic levels."

Much ado about nothing. As a long as there is an earth to stand on there will white people, as well as other races. Deal with it. Mixing, though it happens, is comparatively little in light of the billions of humans. If perchance it WOULD happen, which it never, ever, ever will, it would not be within the lifetime of even your great-grandchildren.

The little mixing that is happening today hasn't been the least bit quilched, despite all the planning, bravado and grandstanding that goes on here and there since the first white man thought it necessary to occupy his time worrying about it. OMG what a massive, tremendous (and expensive) waste of time. The grand obsessive compulsion.

The fact is, there will always be white people who prefer to stick and stay with whites whether...you tell them to or not.
And there will be mixers who don't give two flips in the wind what your arguments and statistics say. And the "we have to kill everyone unlike us, we have to get away from everyone unlike us" we need our own country" mentality is a MOST convoluted, rediculous notion the world will ever know, and look back on with trepidation. The earth will stand forever, you know. You have your countries, and this one is fashioned to be what it is. No use shutting the barn door after the horse is out. If you have to see white as far as the eye can see, go to lands of sunless winters and be happy there.

After all, whites are the ones who keep running hither and yon, like startled birds in a field. Stand your ground and you don't have to bemoan the loss of your precious enclaves you were all too eagar to leave at the drop of a hat just because one black person comes around. So what about property values! If it's where you want to live-LIVE THERE THEN, and don't leave a vacancy for a black perosn to buy, for goodness sakes! It's so simple.

Complain, complain, complain. This movement has built monuments to white dispair and sadness, and fear. Oh, and let's not forget rabid, violent, virulent anger, which you waste away on, while everyone else, who couldn't care less, lives happily in the land of plenty. Some of you are so profane, and hateful you're monsterous faces are twisted and beet red all the time. It would be laughable if it weren't so pitiful.

I heard of a woman spewing hatred with such vehemence she made herself sick and vomited in a gutter. And for all that, things changed anyway.

The only constant is change. But this site sits, more antiquated everyday, preaching to the choir, as the world goes by.

And a common misunderstanding of antis is that somehow, disagreeing with separation means you hate yourself and your race.

So you don't want to separate?
Big deal.
If we are able to separate, Whites who don't want to will be free to continue to live amongst non whites/in a muliCULTural society as long as the non whites allow it.