At first I thought these were undiscovered features of Ableton lol. Great ideas and very well presented. And to the guys giving him stick find something better to do he's being constructive and conveying his point in a very detailed and thorough manner.

rich garside wrote:Great ideas and very well presented. And to the guys giving him stick find something better to do he's being constructive and conveying his point in a very detailed and thorough manner.

Seconded,

I pay particular notice to the date and time of the original post, and just hope the Ableton's Product Managers and Dev's are by now fully aware of how useful these additions would be.

It would be great to change the whole key of a song with one click. Often I've gotten to the point where's I've found a perfect sound but the highest note sounds a bit off on that instrument, but perfect if the song was two semitones lower. Or to be able to change instantly to fit a singer's range. And some songs just sit right at a different key. A million uses.

Changing the piano roll colouring to alternating black and white lines for drum editing would be great.

Also, it would be great if there was a row of buttons in the midi editor for all sorts of view toggling, e.g. to keep all drums showing, to fill in every other note, to fill in all notes, show/hide volume, randomise, etc. etc. Also the whole area at the bottom half of the screen should be worked on, e.g. put the Clip pane on top of the Notes pane to optimise space or just merge them into the midi editor. The improvements would be about accelerating workflow and optimising space.

I Hate how BIAB looks and the workflow is not something I would like to see for Live. HOWEVER, I fully support any addition that makes Live a bit more clear in the songwriting section; like Cubase, where you can notate Key of your song, harmonic progression etc.

I don't get the allergic reaction often being displayed here when it comes down to anything to do with music theory. It won't hurt you you know. And if you insist on not utilising it then don't. But your music is still explainable in terms of music theory wether you want to or not. Same as the whole world is still there when you close your eyes, whether you want to or not

I think as a minimum, they should allow you to swap the compulsory sharps to flats in the midi editor. As it is, working in keys that have flats means you have to do extra thinking converting the scale to a sharps equivalent.

LFO8 wrote:
I don't get the allergic reaction often being displayed here when it comes down to anything to do with music theory. It won't hurt you you know. And if you insist on not utilising it then don't. But your music is still explainable in terms of music theory wether you want to or not. Same as the whole world is still there when you close your eyes, whether you want to or not ;)

This reasoning has nothing to do with applying potentially useful tools in the belief that as long as you stay within the scale the track must be "good". Knowing music theory prevent misuse of such tools of course and to some extent makes these unnecessary outside of being a learning aid and automation.

I'd be more open for tools that acknowledge the role "bad" notes can have in musical works. As long as that is built-in I think tools for Chord structuring, Key handling, Scale handling could be very useful.