playing Saba from Duke in the opener down in FL - if he takes down Saba i'd be willing to pretty much agree with dad that ALL college coaches would be interested in him at this point - Saba is a fighter and won't be handing the match away just because it's an unimportant fall tourney - he doesn't like to lose, period

so we'll see - i'm definitely interested in the result - i'd put heavy money on Saba

similar scoreline to DB vs Redlicki at the zoo...DB puts a nice set together but not competitive in the 3rd

ronnie schneider with a nice straight sets win for USTA, not too surprising, he may go to war with Mengel also

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Mike Redlicki going three sets with Lederman is rather interesting. Redlicki was hailed as the best possible recruit of the new season. Yonger Redlicki lost rather easily to a number 5 or 6 Cal player. Schneider, as usua, competes very well every match. Mengel beat him in tight two.

DB losing to Saba in three is just about right. Interesting that DB is beginning to be more included in the USTA events. I guess the tension between the parties is gone.

Mike Redlicki going three sets with Lederman is rather interesting. Redlicki was hailed as the best possible recruit of the new season. Yonger Redlicki lost rather easily to a number 5 or 6 Cal player. Schneider, as usua, competes very well every match. Mengel beat him in tight two.

DB losing to Saba in three is just about right. Interesting that DB is beginning to be more included in the USTA events. I guess the tension between the parties is gone.

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Tenniscp will post video for u to look at, after 6 or 7 bad line calls ,being overruled 3x by ref and the having his own coach tell him to "knock it off" was pretty clear this kid went right to survival mode to deal with being pushed all around the court by the Jr, after a bad call early in the 3set you could see DB come off the pedal ,yes Saba won but what a pathetic lil girl he is and embarrassment for Duke tennis.

I rarely think line calls can effect a match but this was ridiculous !

Tenniscp will post video for u to look at, after 6 or 7 bad line calls ,being overruled 3x by ref and the having his own coach tell him to "knock it off" was pretty clear this kid went right to survival mode to deal with being pushed all around the court by the Jr, after a bad call early in the 3set you could see DB come off the pedal ,yes Saba won but what a pathetic lil girl he is and embarrassment for Duke tennis.

I rarely think line calls can effect a match but this was ridiculous !

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kind of embarrassing to admit DB tanked the 3rd set - one might describe that as lil girl like!

Tenniscp will post video for u to look at, after 6 or 7 bad line calls ,being overruled 3x by ref and the having his own coach tell him to "knock it off" was pretty clear this kid went right to survival mode to deal with being pushed all around the court by the Jr, after a bad call early in the 3set you could see DB come off the pedal ,yes Saba won but what a pathetic lil girl he is and embarrassment for Duke tennis.

I rarely think line calls can effect a match but this was ridiculous !

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Then DB needs to cope better with bad line calls. Just another thing to learn in the Education of a Tennis Player.

Then DB needs to cope better with bad line calls. Just another thing to learn in the Education of a Tennis Player.

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I agree , he should have aimed everything at the middle of the court to overcome this position he was in , I spoke with him about how temperamental some of these college players can be such as Saba and that losing to a 16 yr old fair and square is out of the question for them.

He was raised to play fair so when he sees a kid that's at a D1 school like Duke I think he was expecting integrity but that wasn't to be found and his responce to it was immature .

#1 coach,
If you get a chance, watch this guy, Jerzey Janowicz, 6ft 8 playing in semi against Simon now on Tennis Channel ATP masters 1000 Paris indoor. Big serves, often over 200km/h but with great touch, disguised drop shots, all court play ...great athlete, great game in addition to his power.
He is 21, ATP ranked 60+, came into this Masters 1000 via qualifying and beat Andy Murray, Tipsarovic in prior rounds.
Maybe something you and DB can look at.

I've never seen him before but thinking this 6ft 8 guy is more athletic than Raonic, Isner, Querry, Del Pot. Take a look.

I agree , he should have aimed everything at the middle of the court to overcome this position he was in , I spoke with him about how temperamental some of these college players can be such as Saba and that losing to a 16 yr old fair and square is out of the question for them.

He was raised to play fair so when he sees a kid that's at a D1 school like Duke I think he was expecting integrity but that wasn't to be found and his responce to it was immature .

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Saba overruled by the refs more than 3 times and nothing was done? Strange that Saba would dare to make so many bad calls in front of his coach and many other spectators! Usta people were there, other college coaches, kids and the spectators. Either he does not care and is really a bad seed, or I think that maybe the story is not very accurate. Would be interesting to hear the other side or a third party account.

I agree , he should have aimed everything at the middle of the court to overcome this position he was in , I spoke with him about how temperamental some of these college players can be such as Saba and that losing to a 16 yr old fair and square is out of the question for them.

He was raised to play fair so when he sees a kid that's at a D1 school like Duke I think he was expecting integrity but that wasn't to be found and his responce to it was immature .

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You won't find integrity from a duke player. At least, not a male duke player. Mikej is typical of their temperament lately.

You won't find integrity from a duke player. At least, not a male duke player. Mikej is typical of their temperament lately.

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haha, not exactly

team is led by one of stan smith's sons - both of whom won sportsmanship award at the zoo during their junior career - that probably gives you a better idea of the way those guys compete than the way a former student posts on the internet

ps assistant coach stokke also won the award in 2002

don't be fooled by a blowhard dad who takes cheap shots at guys half his age every time his son fails to produce the goods

#1 coach,
If you get a chance, watch this guy, Jerzey Janowicz, 6ft 8 playing in semi against Simon now on Tennis Channel ATP masters 1000 Paris indoor. Big serves, often over 200km/h but with great touch, disguised drop shots, all court play ...great athlete, great game in addition to his power.
He is 21, ATP ranked 60+, came into this Masters 1000 via qualifying and beat Andy Murray, Tipsarovic in prior rounds.
Maybe something you and DB can look at.

I've never seen him before but thinking this 6ft 8 guy is more athletic than Raonic, Isner, Querry, Del Pot. Take a look.

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Heard about this kid ,would love to see him , no TennisChannel right now , but thanks for the update, gonna study this kid heard from someone else the same report .

You won't find integrity from a duke player. At least, not a male duke player. Mikej is typical of their temperament lately.

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I agree but you can guarrentee that when most of the present team graduates they will have nice uniforms to wear when they are teaching lessons at their local park , they do have nice colors.

I like the "cheap shot " statement but I was very clear at telling Saba what a pus#%y he was and of course he did nothing , just like I expected. But to cheat on a court where you know you are safe and then have to man up when and old man says something to you and you just look at the ground every time he passed me just showed me whAt he was made of !

I agree but you can guarrentee that when most of the present team graduates they will have nice uniforms to wear when they are teaching lessons at their local park , they do have nice colors.

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hmm, i know a lot of recent duke tennis grads on wall street and in law and med schools, not many teaching at local parks

confusing things with your son's future? or just lashing out since there are now two duke tennis players that own your son (redlicki / saba) and three if the younger redlicki joins the team in the near future?

hmm, i know a lot of recent duke tennis grads on wall street and in law and med schools, not many teaching at local parks

confusing things with your son's future? or just lashing out since there are now two duke tennis players that own your son (redlicki / saba) and three if the younger redlicki joins the team in the near future?

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Guys that are 3 and 4 years older having to go 3 sets and Saba having to cheat to win not my idea of owning but then again when DB plays someone that much younger it is usually a golden set and always in straights , I guess our definitions are quite different .

why do you continually bash these kids on an online tennis forum? even if what you say is true (which is may not be. I'd like a 3rd party account to hear what really happened) there's nothing to gain from what you're doing. why don't you just let your very talented son play tennis and you need to stop with the shenanigans online.

Guys that are 3 and 4 years older having to go 3 sets and Saba having to cheat to win not my idea of owning but then again when DB plays someone that much younger it is usually a golden set and always in straights , I guess our definitions are quite different .

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"usually a golden set" haha - care to name some players your son has gotten a golden set off of in competition? how about just one?

as usual, just a total bs response

one more year til your son is 17 1/2 and one of the older guys still competing on the junior circuit...how sad that will be when you can no longer deflect all his losses with misdirection about his age

unfortunately the ATP also doesn't pay for losses against older players...you have to get the win no matter the age difference

why do you continually bash these kids on an online tennis forum? even if what you say is true (which is may not be. I'd like a 3rd party account to hear what really happened) there's nothing to gain from what you're doing. why don't you just let your very talented son play tennis and you need to stop with the shenanigans online.

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keep letting him burn bridges with the top college coaches, limiting successful options for his son in the future

to date he has knocked at least two of the top ones out of the picture - USC (by insulting the way steve johnson acts on the court) and Duke (by attacking redlick and saba publicly after losses)

think those are the only top coaches that have put an 'x' through his name? nope, word gets around in coaching circles

why do you continually bash these kids on an online tennis forum? even if what you say is true (which is may not be. I'd like a 3rd party account to hear what really happened) there's nothing to gain from what you're doing. why don't you just let your very talented son play tennis and you need to stop with the shenanigans online.

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If this guy has the audacity to step out in public and start making these kind of calls on court then I will be happy to point it out on any forum , just to give you the heads up as soon as I get home and transfer the video I will post it to YouTube under his name and you can see for yourself , pretty pathetic but to sit back and say nothing that is what these guys exspect , sorry not me bud.

If this guy has the audacity to step out in public and start making these kind of calls on court then I will be happy to point it out on any forum , just to give you the heads up as soon as I get home and transfer the video I will post it to YouTube under his name and you can see for yourself , pretty pathetic but to sit back and say nothing that is what these guys exspect , sorry not me bud.

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great, let us know where to find the video once it is up, i would love to see it

Tenniscp will post video for u to look at, after 6 or 7 bad line calls ,being overruled 3x by ref and the having his own coach tell him to "knock it off" was pretty clear this kid went right to survival mode to deal with being pushed all around the court by the Jr, after a bad call early in the 3set you could see DB come off the pedal ,yes Saba won but what a pathetic lil girl he is and embarrassment for Duke tennis.

I rarely think line calls can effect a match but this was ridiculous !

If this guy has the audacity to step out in public and start making these kind of calls on court then I will be happy to point it out on any forum , just to give you the heads up as soon as I get home and transfer the video I will post it to YouTube under his name and you can see for yourself , pretty pathetic but to sit back and say nothing that is what these guys exspect , sorry not me bud.

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I think everyone would be interested to see some proof of the bad calls. Until that is up all of your posts just look like sour grapes.

...But to cheat on a court where you know you are safe and then have to man up when and old man says something to you and you just look at the ground every time he passed me just showed me whAt he was made of !

Pretty classy to see you guys trying to shame a guy who cheats or quits by calling him a girl? I'm proud to say that the many boys have have competed against my daughter have learned a lesson that is lost on you guys: That a girl can be as tough (and certainly as fair) of a competitor as any boy. And my daughter has certainly never tanked a match because she was being cheated, thank you very much TFL77...

Pretty classy to see you guys trying to shame a guy who cheats or quits by calling him a girl? I'm proud to say that the many boys have have competed against my daughter have learned a lesson that is lost on you guys: That a girl can be as tough (and certainly as fair) of a competitor as any boy. And my daughter has certainly never tanked a match because she was being cheated, thank you very much TFL77...

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Some of these posters are wannabe tough guys, not real tough guys. I have known lots of real tough guys and they don't pick on people, threaten, hit children, or threaten parents over a tennis match. They don't brag about using violence or care too much about what someone says.

Some of these posters are wannabe tough guys, not real tough guys. I have known lots of real tough guys and they don't pick on people, threaten, hit children, or threaten parents over a tennis match. They don't brag about using violence or care too much about what someone says.

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agreed with you on that .. those real martial arts people who can put you down in a second are real calm ..similar to the Steven Seagal character in the movies.. but what does all this have to do with tennis ?

agreed with you on that .. those real martial arts people who can put you down in a second are real calm ..similar to the Steven Seagal character in the movies.. but what does all this have to do with tennis ?

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Hoperfully nothing. But if you follow this thread you will see posters who want to turn tennis into some kind of macho violent contest. Sometimes against kids or their parents. I'm saying these "internet tough guys" are frauds. Let's get back to reality.

Hoperfully nothing. But if you follow this thread you will see posters who want to turn tennis into some kind of macho violent contest. Sometimes against kids or their parents. I'm saying these "internet tough guys" are frauds. Let's get back to reality.

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I'd say the internet tough guys are not as bad as the tough guy parent frauds that pop up all over the place at junior tournaments.