2008.10.31 07:00 - Fish

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Wol Euler was guardian this morning, filling in for Quen Oh. Wol's computer didn't record the Japanese characters properly, if anyone has these in their log please replace the gibberish that's here.

We were discussing the autologging system as the gong went.

Wol Euler: hello moon

Fael Illyar: rehi Moon :)

Moon Fargis: hi :)

Fael Illyar: I was trying to get started when you mentioned it last and then someone called me and made sure I need to do something with the Windows installation on exactly the system I had all the things ready for advancing autologger.

Wol Euler: hmmmmm

Wol Euler: well, I don't have any spare time or protection from RL distractions to offer ...

Wol Euler: (not time that I could cut off and send to you)

Wol Euler: you know more about it now than I. Is the job splittable, sectionable?

Fael Illyar: no, it's quite simple and straightforward.

Fael Illyar: well, except ... someone could do the UI part and someone else the part that posts

Wol Euler: does it need a UI? do we not use the normal Deki wiki for editing?

Wol Euler: oh, asking for a title.

Fael Illyar: well, when it's on the Deki, all the lines are part of the history.

Wol Euler: mm?

Wol Euler: oh, you want the GoC to edit the database before it gets posted?

Wol Euler: that is a bottomless pit (I write database UIs for work)

Wol Euler: let's just auto-post and edit on the wiki, please.

Wol Euler: we can add cleanness and politeness in version two.

Maxine arrives and we begin to discuss PaB.

Wol Euler: hello maxine

Moon Fargis: hi maxine

Maxine Walden: hi Wol, Moon, Fael

Fael Illyar: Hi Maxine :)

Maxine Walden: how the jetlag, Fael?

Maxine Walden: have an idea you all were in another conversation. If so, please carry on

Wol Euler: just geeking about the autologging before the hour. we can ove on to PaB

Maxine Walden: what's the big box?

Wol Euler: I guess it's the shipping crate the model came in.

Maxine Walden: hmmm

Fael Illyar: well, jetlag is probably gone by now but my sleep rhythm is still a bi late :)

Maxine Walden: can imagine, Fael

Wol Euler nods sympathetically.

Fael Illyar: well, I used to have a late rhythm :P

Maxine Walden: ?

Fael Illyar: it was moving closer to normality but now it's back to rather late :)

Maxine Walden: oh, could feel like a setback.

Wol Euler: "diffferently normal" perhaps.

Fael Illyar: well, just mildly inconvenient, really :P makes it difficult to wake up for my 1AM slots in time.

Maxine Walden: ah...

Adams joins us.

Wol Euler: hello adams

Maxine Walden: here comes Adams

Wol Euler: glowy adams, another new look?

Maxine Walden: perhaps a Halloween ghost?

Adams Rubble: Hello everyone :)

Moon Fargis: hi adams

Fael Illyar: Ah, Hi Adams :)

Adams Rubble: I came on last night and got a notecard about some free stuff and went and came up with these :)

Fael Illyar: new look :)

Wol Euler waits patiently for rezzing.

Fael Illyar: oh, traffic lights necklace :)

Adams Rubble: How is everyone?

Wol Euler: quite well, thanks. and yourself?

Moon Fargis enjoys his tea and cookies

Maxine Walden: been fine

Maxine Walden: and you, Adams?

Adams Rubble: I am finding out why i have been sleepless finally but don;t know yet what to do about it. I had two dreams last night that pointed to my "selves"

Wol Euler: ah!

Maxine Walden: oh?

Moon Fargis: adams

Moon Fargis: simple try out to sleep other way around

Adams Rubble: The labyrinth I was in last weekend is connected but now I eem to be going back through fomrer selves

Adams Rubble: haha Moon

Fael Illyar: I'm well :)

Moon Fargis: also itm ight work to turn your sleeping position about 180 degrees

Moon Fargis: so you sleep where your feets normally are..

Adams Rubble makes note of Moon's suggestion

Maxine Walden: I'd be interested in the dreams if you wished to tell them, Adams

Fael Illyar: Ah, give your mind other things to worry about that are more imposing but less disturbing?

Adams Rubble: The second one is rather complex and might be better read...it is on my blog today

Adams Rubble: before I went to sleep last night I asked for a clue to my sleepless ness

Wol Euler: hello gaya

Maxine Walden: hi, gaya

Adams Rubble: In my first dream, I was guardian and asked what everyone would like to talk about

Adams Rubble: Hi Gaya

Adams Rubble: I got an IM across my chat log from someone who wanted to talk about "selves"

Moon Fargis: hi gaya!

Wol Euler smiles.

Fael Illyar: Hi Gaya :)

Maxine Walden: (dreams are so communicative)

Wol Euler: did you pursue it?

Adams Rubble: yes Maxine

Adams Rubble: No I woke up there from that one but I knew that was my clue

Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_

Adams Rubble: In the second dream I seem to be liviong through former selves

Adams Rubble: I am wondering about the fish. they seem so important but so out of place

Wol Euler: "fish"?

Fael Illyar: "thanks for all the fish" :)

Maxine Walden: maybe the importance of the 'so out of place feeling self'?

Wol Euler: fish out of water

Adams Rubble: maxine?

Gaya Ethaniel smiles. yes, thanks for all the fish now I'm off

Maxine Walden: sometimes that 'feeling lost, out of place' is a diffficult self to appreciate, integrate

Fael Illyar smiles.

Maxine Walden: but if we sprun it, that lost feeling self can feel in outer space, rejected ...

Fael Illyar waves goodbye to Gaya.

Maxine Walden: spurn

Faenik: why not?

Wol Euler: bye gaya

Fael Illyar blinks, did she misunderstand the "I'm off" statement

Adams Rubble: bye Gaya

Maxine Walden: bye gaya

Fael Illyar: oh, apparently not.

Maxine Walden: (just to mention this is my early morning, have to leave in about 5 minutes)

Wol Euler: ok, no worries.

Adams Rubble: Thanks for the warning Maxine

Adams Rubble: I can relate to the lost part, wondering about the rejected part

Fael Illyar: wb Gaya :)

Maxine Walden: I find, Adams, that when I have trouble accepting a part of myself I am rejecting that part and I dimly feel rejected...

Gaya Ethaniel smiles. didn't hurt much, falling down from the sky

Fael Illyar finds it somehow warming to have another with these wings sitting next to her.

Adams Rubble: Ah

Adams Rubble: Hello Pema

Maxine Walden: so that I feel the sense of acceptance or rejection that I impose on myself

Fael Illyar: Hi Pema :)

Wol Euler: oh, interesting.

Wol Euler: hello pema

Moon Fargis: hi pema!

Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_

Maxine Walden: hi, Pema

Pema Pera: Hi everybody!

Adams Rubble is thinking about maxine's statement

Pema Pera: Hi „Éï„Ç°„Ç®„É´„Å°„ÇÉ„Çì^^

Wol Euler wonders: will Pema close the circle by sitting at hte corner, or re-enforce the ring by sitting between maxine and moon?

Pema Pera is still rezzing . . .

Wol Euler smiles

Maxine Walden: about to have to leave...so Pema may reshape the circle...oh there he is

Faenik: indeed?

Maxine Walden: Adams, maybe we can continue this aspect of the conversation, about accepting or rejecting aspects of our selves and thus feeling accepted or rejected...

Maxine Walden: continue it at another time...

Gaya Ethaniel: _/!\_

Adams Rubble: Yes, thanks maxine. Have a good Friday :)

Wol Euler: bye maxine, enjoy the rest of the day

Maxine Walden: sorry I have to leave, see you all later. Yes Happy Halloween, all

Adams Rubble: We were discussing the fish in my second dream which has inspired Fael

Adams Rubble: Maxine thought that may have to do with accepting or rejecting my self

Adams Rubble: The main point is that I am having issues with my selves both in RL and SL

Adams Rubble: The seocnd dream suggests I may be working my way backward

Fael Illyar: inspired me?

Adams Rubble: visually Fael

Fael Illyar: oh :)

Wol Euler: I find it interesting that thees were both SL dreams: PaB, IMing, camming about ... Were you Rubble or Dubvrovna?

Adams Rubble: I felt more the RL me

Adams Rubble: The avatars don;t sem important now in what is happening now

Adams Rubble: Obviously there are references to paB and SL but I think that is more from the framework of what is happening than my avatars

Adams Rubble: It is the GROUP which is important

Adams Rubble: I think :)

Adams Rubble: The RL part seems very serious stuff to me

Pema Pera: Overall, I'm very glad to see so many things moving for you, Adams; the exploration itself is wh is far more tricky. I look forward to talking with you in two days in RL, with you and Stim and Pia, over brunch!

Faenik: indeed?

Pema Pera: ah, something dropped again. Correction:

Pema Pera: the exploration itself is what is most important. Interpretations are far more tricky

Pema Pera: (sorry, my computer keeps freezing up and dropping parts of what I write)

Adams Rubble: oh my

Faenik: could be

Adams Rubble: So just let things play out then?

Gaya Ethaniel: true Pema re: interpretations

Pema Pera: stay with the energy of the dreams, and try to be open to what it wants to tell you