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Fri, 09 Dec 2016 14:29:07 GMTOpen Water Workouts - by Charlotte Brynncbrynnhttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27125-Week-50-December-12th-17thrussian swimming - just part of their big time dopinghttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27124-russian-swimming-just-part-of-their-big-time-doping&goto=newpost
Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:52:46 GMThttp://www.cnn.com/2016/12/09/sport/wada-russia-doping-mclaren-report/index.htmlhttp://www.cnn.com/2016/12/09/sport/...ort/index.html
]]>General Swimming-Related Discussionssunruhhttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27124-russian-swimming-just-part-of-their-big-time-dopingWorkouts - Wk of 12/05/16http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27123-Workouts-Wk-of-12-05-16&goto=newpost
Thu, 08 Dec 2016 19:50:43 GMTHigh Intensity Training - by Retta RaceBoomeranghttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27123-Workouts-Wk-of-12-05-16Auto Refinancehttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27122-Auto-Refinance&goto=newpost
Thu, 08 Dec 2016 03:43:04 GMTHi. I have a friend in the US who just gave birth and asked for my help to find a good company to refinance her car. She doesn't have much time to do it so here I am. I have found a few online but I'm not really sure if it's reliable. Any recommendations?
]]>NSR: Non Swimming-Related DiscussionsLyn Maconhttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27122-Auto-RefinanceGet meet over or get it right?http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27121-Get-meet-over-or-get-it-right&goto=newpost
Wed, 07 Dec 2016 01:07:36 GMTI attended the SPMA zone meet December 2nd 2016 in Commerce Ca.
I only swam day 1, 1500 free, 200IM, 100 free and 200 Back. I was on 800 free...I attended the SPMA zone meet December 2nd 2016 in Commerce Ca.

I only swam day 1, 1500 free, 200IM, 100 free and 200 Back. I was on 800 free relay at end of day 1 as well.
I arrived at meet at 8:10 am just as heat 1 of 12 for 1500 started. All my events went well and was headed for the starting blocks early and my mind froze. Earlier I knew I was in heat 3 lane 5, but somehow I thought heat 3 lane 3. When they called up the teams, there was another swimmer and referee came over and said it was Rose Bowl lane 3. I was still uncertain and then looked what and I saw empty lane 5, I headed over and the starter called up the swimmers and started they race, I was frantically waving my arms and asking him to stop. The heat left and my team mates told me to go, so I did and the team completed the relay. We were disqualified, I felt terrible. This was about 5 pm. I was exhausted and disappointed and hoped the points lost wouldn't change anything. Unfortunately at end of the meet my team was 3rd overall by 4 points. We would have scored 16-18 points in that event. So extra time is given to get swimmers out of the pool at end of races, why don't starters help get swimmers to the right blocks. I wear bifocals, was in low light indoor pool, I was tired from the long day my mind wasn't 100%. It would have been 10 more seconds to get us in right lane why the hurry? If they don't want to get the swimmers in right spot why have the meet. They were determined to get meet over. Very disappointing officials, no objectivity obviously there was some confusion and an open lane. They were determined to finish the meet and if you needed a little extra help, no way....
]]>Officials and OfficiatingViva O Fearhttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27121-Get-meet-over-or-get-it-rightFirst Meet Questionshttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27120-First-Meet-Questions&goto=newpost
Tue, 06 Dec 2016 21:08:35 GMT:dunno: I recently registered for my first swim meet and I have a few questions:
1. I signed up for the 1000yd and 500yd free events....:dunno: I recently registered for my first swim meet and I have a few questions:

1. I signed up for the 1000yd and 500yd free events. I am wondering how many times will I have to swim those distances in the meet? Once or twice?

2. As this is my first meet, I do not have any prior race times. I filled out the event sheet with my estimated times for each event. Was that correct or should I have left the times blank?

This event is not USMS sanctioned or recognized.
]]>Illinoisbucketheadhttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27118-Tri-Right-Masters-Swim-A-Palooza-100-x-100Getting Older,Getting Slowerhttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27117-Getting-Older-Getting-Slower&goto=newpost
Tue, 06 Dec 2016 01:25:54 GMTI just got back from the SPMS meet and I am in a funk. I have talked to several of my contemporaries who share my dysphoria at getting slower. From...I just got back from the SPMS meet and I am in a funk. I have talked to several of my contemporaries who share my dysphoria at getting slower. From age 50-62 I slowed down very little. Ages 63 and 64 were one injury or illness after another, but at least there was a cause and I felt I would do better. Age 65 I aged up and for most of the year was healthy. That was a great year,but my times were all significantly slower than at 62. Since then it is very unusual to have one swim that is faster than I did the previous year.At 67(almost 68) I am notably slower than at 65. I have seen the graphs of how times slow with age, intellectually, if I am staying at the same rate of decline as my peers I should accept it, but I don't like it. I know most forumites are much younger and what I am saying may seem like something natural that I should just acknowledge and go on, that is what I thought until I was 63. I know that our having age groups every 5 years is a partial solution to the problem, but there is more difference between a 65 year old and a 68 year old than between a 40 year old and a 50 year old, in my experience. How do the other older swimmers out there cope and have a good attitude? The common saying in Masters Swimming is that "you are only competing against yourself",but my slightly younger self is kicking my butt and I am tired of it.
]]>General Swimming-Related DiscussionsAllen Starkhttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27117-Getting-Older-Getting-SlowerDec 5 – 11, 2016http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27116-Dec-5-–-11-2016&goto=newpost
Sun, 04 Dec 2016 17:17:27 GMTTriathlon Training - by Scott Hoftiezershoftiezerhttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27116-Dec-5-–-11-2016What do your coaches do?http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27115-What-do-your-coaches-do&goto=newpost
Sat, 03 Dec 2016 15:06:24 GMTGood day.
For any who can take two seconds, can you please reply and let me know about your coach your practices?
For example, does your coach...Good day.

For any who can take two seconds, can you please reply and let me know about your coach your practices?

For example, does your coach put up a workout and just let you swim without any feedback whatsoever?

Or does your coach provide you with corrections, tips or pointers to improve your swimming? I am trying to get a sense of how coaching is handled by other groups.

I swim, both for the love of it, but principally as an aid for weight loss. I'm a 53-year-old male, 5' 11" tall, otherwise in good health but rather heavy. At present I'm 246lb. I never swam competitively in the past. I've been losing weight at around 2lb-per-week for the last 17 weeks, with the odd blip, using the 5:2 diet. I swim in a 25 metre public pool three-times-a-week, for a minimum of 2 hours each session. I've lost 21lb in those 17 weeks and reckon I'll be able to continue at the same rate for at least another 36lb. After that I suspect the low-hanging fruit will have gone and it will be a fight to get the remaining pounds off. The target weight is 189lb, and I aim to hit that by Q3 2017.

At present I'm 'clinically obese' having been 'morbidly obese' in the past, although as 'morbidly obese' I could a run <7 minute mile (go figure) though anything over 3 miles distance was beyond me.

I swim (only) freestyle and I've switched to that stroke only in the last three years. Before I only swam breaststroke and two lengths of front-crawl would have left me with tunnel vision (so I didn't do it!) Swimming initially with my son I made an effort to switch to the front-crawl and after six months I could finally swim a mile (64 lengths) with no difficulty, though not necessarily all-that-fast. Since then the speed has improved, but only recently have I seen a step-change, coinciding with a relatively small weight loss.

I don't dive-in and don't do any flip turns (my substantial buoyancy tends to make these difficult!) I use a Swimovate Pool Mate Live Swim Watch and I have a Finis TT Pro. I'm not a club member and generally swim alone. My swimming technique follows TI, but I've not received any formal coaching.

As my weight has reduced recently, my PB's have improved, some markedly in just the last month-and-a-half.

As the weight drops-off I'm finding that my general speed is improving. For instance a month-and-half-ago most of my 200m swims were 3:40-3:45, even though my PB was 3:25 (set in June 2015). Now all my 200 metres are sub-3:30's and the Xmas target is 3:15. I rarely swam a sub-7:40 400m but in the last fortnight every single one has been sub-7:15 and many 7:01-7:02. So things have improved and improved consistently.

You might note that I swim the 1500m quicker than the 800m, but that's likely to be addressed in the next few weeks!

With all of the above, I have some queries.

* For the specific purpose of losing weight, what swimming regime should I follow? Sprints (50m-100m) or longer-distances? I swim 'sets' but I will reach a physical limit at my current weight a little quicker than I would if I was lighter. At present 4 x 200m all @<3:30 with a 1:45 rest is about my limit; after the 4th one my times drop off and so does my technique.

* Can I expect performance to continue improving as I continue to lose more weight? I imagine that introducing flip turns will contribute perhaps 2 secs/length but I don't think I'm going to be able to perform a reliable turn until I get down to at least 224lb. I've read various estimates; such as that losing 14lb will contribute 5 secs off every 100m, but I suspect that say between say 224lb and 210lb the difference will be marginal. Someone who has lost a substantial amount of weight might be able to answer this.

Any advice will be gratefully received!
]]>General Swimming-Related Discussionsavalon222http://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27111-Losing-weight-amp-getting-fasterIce swimming in Lesothohttp://forums.usms.org/showthread.php?27110-Ice-swimming-in-Lesotho&goto=newpost
Fri, 02 Dec 2016 08:24:27 GMTJust saw this for the first time, do not know how old the report is. This is truly extreme sport.
...Just saw this for the first time, do not know how old the report is. This is truly extreme sport.