Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

Era wrote:I'm still fairly new on here, but I know who Lore is! Then again, I got sort of obsessed with everything Paladin when I was "building myself up" to become a high-end tank, and at the time (WotLK, yeah I'm a Wrath-baby) Lore was a well known name.

My amusement of the day; you still consider yourself fairly new around here, and are all the way back from wrath - the first expansion where a paladin tank was more than higghly situational (I remember having a paladintank i tbc who's sole job was grabbing the .. murlocs?.. on the giant in SSC and then being the aggro target for waves in MH, while we "proper tanks" (druids) tanked the bosses or wen't dps on the go when not tanking)

Era wrote:I'm still fairly new on here, but I know who Lore is! Then again, I got sort of obsessed with everything Paladin when I was "building myself up" to become a high-end tank, and at the time (WotLK, yeah I'm a Wrath-baby) Lore was a well known name.

My amusement of the day; you still consider yourself fairly new around here, and are all the way back from wrath - the first expansion where a paladin tank was more than higghly situational (I remember having a paladintank i tbc who's sole job was grabbing the .. murlocs?.. on the giant in SSC and then being the aggro target for waves in MH, while we "proper tanks" (druids) tanked the bosses or wen't dps on the go when not tanking)

so, since I feel similarly to Era... this made me look at at *my* join date

0.o

But like a friend said once: you gotta wait at least an expansion or two before you can start complaining/praising the days of the expansion you started in

Nooska wrote:My amusement of the day; you still consider yourself fairly new around here, and are all the way back from wrath - the first expansion where a paladin tank was more than higghly situational (I remember having a paladintank i tbc who's sole job was grabbing the .. murlocs?.. on the giant in SSC and then being the aggro target for waves in MH, while we "proper tanks" (druids) tanked the bosses or wen't dps on the go when not tanking)

Well, everything is relative, right? ^^ I guess I just see all these old names from way back to Classic times and just feel like I haven't been around for very long. And yeah, I do feel like the expansion I joined in (WotLK for reference) was the best one. Dungeons were easy, normal raids were normal, and HC raids (or equivalent hard modes) were hard. Or at least that's the way I remember feeling!

Of course, I'm a huge fan of the Arthas-storyline, so that might've helped colour my opinion just a slight bit!

"Ask stupid questions. Growth is fuelled by desire and innocence. Assess the answer,not the question. Imagine learning throughout your life at the rate of an infant."

Era wrote:Well, everything is relative, right? ^^ I guess I just see all these old names from way back to Classic times and just feel like I haven't been around for very long. And yeah, I do feel like the expansion I joined in (WotLK for reference) was the best one. Dungeons were easy, normal raids were normal, and HC raids (or equivalent hard modes) were hard. Or at least that's the way I remember feeling!

Of course, I'm a huge fan of the Arthas-storyline, so that might've helped colour my opinion just a slight bit!

Yep - I feel the same way about the names and dates here. I mean, I came here because this was *the place* for pally tanks.

I actually joined so late in wrath, and so me 5-mans was all I could do except the odd VOA run I got lucky and made it into. My memories of wrath are more about the learning curve of a new player, then the learning to hate PUGs from LFD (and being the worst geared person in my guild for a long time because of it). I do recall thinking that while the leveling content changes were mostly welcome in cata, the way they went crazy with flightpoints in the old world and how rail-road like zones became wasn't. I (and my guildmates) also welcomed the new hard heroic 5-mans, after the gogogo zergathons that were wrath heroics (this is also my main issue with most LFRs since the attitude never seemed to have gone away even if content changed). I did like the Lich King as a villian, far better than Garrosh/the Sha or Deathwing.

For me, it was the night before cata dropped, and I remember saying to this person (she'd played back in vanilla and TBC, then quit for awhile): "so, can I talk about Wrath as being 'back in my day' now?"

Her answer was "No, you have to wait through one full expansion first."

Gruul I just sort of sat there hitting the thing while our war and druid did their thing. RoS in BT pretty much required a warrior tank for spell reflect in P2 I think. One of the bosses in hyjal with the periodic silence hurt my feelings.

But it was all ok when we got to illidan and I was like "Shear? I'm a pally. Combat table coverage, I got dat."

i started playing just before wrath, and joined here when i was just starting to level my paladin, who was my first tanki now have all 5 tanking classes, with 3 90 tanks (my 90 druid is kitty/heals) back when i first joined MTadin, i barely knew how to play, and compared to some (most) of the posters here i still suck...

honestly, i have to say i dont agree wrath as a whole was the best...parts were awesome but others werent so goodpersonally i hated leveling a new tank because it was annoying getting to 535 def just to do heroics and not be squishy

honestly i think i would have quit if i had started playing during BC though, based on my first 2 80s being my hunter and paladin

i also didnt realize i joined MTadin before someone i remember seeing on here for ages...Bene!

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

By "threat problems" you should mean "we did so much threat that warriors and druids couldnt remotely hold aggro off us provided we had the mana for it"

I was one of the very first Paladins progression tanks, I believe I was the third to progression tank Illidan and one of the first handful to successfully tank Brutallus (see guides in the Archive ). What really sold me convincing our GM to let me take the Main Tank role when our warrior tank quitted shortly after Sunwell release, was the fact that all of our DPS team was excited to be able to go all out without having to watch KTM (who remembers it??), while with our warriors (which were quite good even) they had to use threat dumps, misdirects and what not all the time to not overaggro.

Memorial image from the good old time to give a idea of what I mean by "insane TPS".

DafuqshituiIhad?

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

Bare in mind the top DPS in my group were all pushing over 2k DPS in Sunwell.

And that's nothing, in farm runs I even had started using SP flasks and SP pots ^_^ Also being the MT also allowed me to stack my group with caster buffs ...

I should have some pictures of Brutallus somewhere...

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

Brekkie:Tanks are like shitty DPS. And healers are like REALLY distracted DPSAmirya:Why yes, your penis is longer than his because you hit 30k dps in the first 10 seconds. But guess what? That raid boss has a dick bigger than your ego. Flex:I don't make mistakes. I execute carefully planned strategic group wipes.Levie:(in /g) It's weird, I have a collar and I dont know where I got it from, Worgen are kinky!Levie:Drunk Lev goes and does what he pleases just to annoy sober Lev.Sagara:You see, you need to *spread* the bun before you insert the hot dog.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

My amusement of the day; you still consider yourself fairly new around here, and are all the way back from wrath - the first expansion where a paladin tank was more than higghly situational (I remember having a paladintank i tbc who's sole job was grabbing the .. murlocs?.. on the giant in SSC and then being the aggro target for waves in MH, while we "proper tanks" (druids) tanked the bosses or wen't dps on the go when not tanking)

Hilariously, we were pretty much the best theoretical tank for Tidewalker himself, more so than Warriors and Druids.

I've now found myself in 3 guilds (ended up joining the guild I raided with last tier with one of my alts, may do a toon shuffle to bring my main in there if we start raiding again)... says the guy who back in dragon soul was worried about leaving his friends and family guild

My amusement of the day; you still consider yourself fairly new around here, and are all the way back from wrath - the first expansion where a paladin tank was more than higghly situational (I remember having a paladintank i tbc who's sole job was grabbing the .. murlocs?.. on the giant in SSC and then being the aggro target for waves in MH, while we "proper tanks" (druids) tanked the bosses or wen't dps on the go when not tanking)

Hilariously, we were pretty much the best theoretical tank for Tidewalker himself, more so than Warriors and Druids.

But the difference between paladin tanks and other tanks was even greater when looking at the murlocs (it was murlocs, wasn't it?) - hence "paladin tanks the adds" (well combined with our RL having switched to a druid tank shortly before we got that far in SSC, having been geared in our alt runs in Kara, and him wanting to lead while tanking as it was "easier" (I think it was).)