As you transition from the second to third rollover, it should be all in the wrist. Personally, as I go into the third rollover I also use my thumb to help push the rollover, it sort of looks like I'm making a thumbs up for a second. That's what works for me.

To learn it well enough to be able to do it, it took maybe a few weeks. Not counting the time it took to learn the y2k which is a prerequisite. But to actually refine the helix and be able to do it with speed and consistency it took several more months. And with the last challenge I did here, where people told me to work on using my wrist more, helped me improve it further. The wrist motion is important, I thought I was already using my wrist enough but I wasn't. Going into the last rollover you have to flip your wrist up and towards you, it almost feels like you're throwing the balisong into yourself. I also think me using my thumb to push the balisong as it rolls helps too, I use my thumb to push during behind the 8-balls as well.

There's learning a trick and then there's refinement which is an ongoing process. To get to the point where you never drop it, can do continuous helixes and still have it be fast, etc. There is never really a limit to how good you can become at a trick. I don't really pay attention to how long it takes me to learn tricks I just flip for the sake of flipping.

took my 3 months to finally get my helix smooth. once i got it tho i instantly figured everything else out...... but when you transition from pointer to thumb try to touch them together like your making an "OK" sign then just lift your hand momentum alone will do the trick for you

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