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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 590 Discussion and 591 Predictions

This chapter really brought it home with me. Seeing Itachi going from this cold-hearted character to a loving brother. I love the dynamic between Sasuke and itachi were Sasuke went from being good to evil and Vice Versa with Itachi. This chapter fuels my hatred for Danzo even more now. Thank god he's dead. Overall very nice chapter and closure between the brothers. Where do we go from here? Honestly I don't know. Right now we have Suigetsu and Jugo floating around. The Kages are on their last breath and Naruto, Guy, and Kakashi are up against tobi. So much is happening who knows whats going to happen next.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 590 Discussion and 591 Predictions

Wha's killing me more than anything else is WHO THE HECK IS ZETSU?! I've been wondering that ever since he poked his head at the Final Valley, and we still have absoultely NO background on him. Even TOBI has more back-info than he does. I'm more eager to learn about Mr. Aloe Vera than Tobi. After all, Tobi has been narrowed down to like 6 ppl (Kagami, Izuna, Elder Brother, Obito[I don't believe it for a second] or some random stranger that we don't know about). There are dozens or more of theories about Zetsu, any which could be true. Perhaps HE is the main villain of the series!! And we thought Kishi pulled a fast one when Tobi was revealed to be pulling the strings. That would be really cheap (yet really awesome) if he does it again with Zetsu.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 590 Discussion and 591 Predictions

In regards to the infamous mask man i think we need to pay attention to a small detail that Tobi himself said awhile back..."Im NOBODY...i just want the moons eye plan". Ive been reading the small hints that it might be the nobody ninja named Kagami Uchiha who served under TOBIrama (the 2nd...who used space time jutsu). Kagami had fought alongside the first great wars, was old enough to have met Madara Uchiha and even Izuna (to devise a later plan which madara hinted "hes not following the plan"),the only thing that would need to be explained is his hate for the Uchiha? But that could be tallied to their complacency with being 2nd class citizens (assuming Kagami conversed/shared ideals with Madara). Tobi has one eye as well.....who's to say Danzo didnt take his at some point in time after TOBIrama chose his successor??

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 590 Discussion and 591 Predictions

Originally Posted by eyesofthekyuubi44

Okay let me rephrase my next statement.

This chapter in my eyes is next to the chapter that Killer Bee forgave Motoi and saved him from the squid, Kushina saying her goodbye to Naruto (during the Kyuubi attack and during the meeting in his mind), and Zabuza dying for Haku's memory.

This is where Kishimoto shines. He created characters so complex that you understand how they feel. He made an anime that is not only empathetic, but inspiring because of the way he writes about indications on your life path. In the dramatic world of ninjas where is isn't okay to show emotion, he's made his characters rebuff that and give us readers insight as to how even people that are seen as terrible like Fugaku can have a human side.

I was amazed that his parents were so forgiving. I was amazed at the forsight Danzo gave in terms of talking about what Sasuke will become.

I would be even MORE amazed if Sasuke switched it around and went back to Konoha, but I doubt it. Hell, this probably fueled his revenge enough to run the planet because he keeps on twisting things to his advantage when most would have given up by now.

^exactly. Chapters like this are what make Naruto what it is. The scene with his parents accepting his choice was, imo, the most emotional scene yet. And the parallel at the end with Itachi accepting Sasuke's decision, even if it goes against what he sacrificed everything for ... well, that was just brilliant. And it further illustrates Itachi's change of heart since he died and was revived -- his original plan, after all, was to brainwashing Sasuke to protect Konoha, effectively denying any choice in his "path".

I don't really see Sasuke turning good after this. I think you're right in that this probably fueled his revenge even more. Sasuke eludes me; he's irrational and emotionally unstable (typical teenager, I guess). That said, this is probably the closest I've come to understanding/sympathizing for him; at the very least, the rest of the world needs to know that Itachi wasn't the villain he pretended to be.

Originally Posted by ghostsoldier3

It takes supremely disgusting comments to lure me out - and you sir congrats have done it...Fine have ur opinion but really? okay let's see yes DUUHHHHHHH the story didn't quite move along the way we expected which in a particular way sucks - yes we knew the backstory (but as everyone said) not from the itachi perspective as this - though not lengthy it afforded more information which people wanted. If you even think bout it Danzo didn't wanna kill sasuke just becuz - but cuz he knew that he'd want revenge if it happened another way - (he's still a prick though). Anyway...if ur chipping away from story progression fine -- the fact that its info we know fine -- but it was a damn good way to close off itachi and will be a defining moment for sasuke -- for those reasons, at worst this deserves a 3. I don't think ur just a blow up everything action person either - if it was regurgitated flashbacks i'd understand ur hissyfit but this doesn't fit the bill. Well let me hear your reason for the 1 sir...hmm? only 3 intelligent people i never *sighs*

lol. You tell 'em! Seems like many people around these parts have the reading comprehension of an 8 year-old.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 590 Discussion and 591 Predictions

-think about the only person known to all peeps (manga-readers) who was part of past and kinda present to know and see all the actual main chars of the Leaf's story and its surroundings.
-think about the Uchiha rebellion
-think about that NOT all Uchihas shared the opinion to support the rebellion
-think about a secret pact between Danzo and this "Tobi"
-think about that at the end Tobi's idea and final goal "has to prevail" by all means, and that's why he has awesome knowledge about the Uchiha's and the Leaf's behaviour and for this Tobi needs an ally (Danzo temporarily gets some Uchihas eyes as reward and a possible Hokage title, but Itachi doesn't know about Danzo's pact with Tobi)
-think about Danzo would have never let accomplish Tobi's plan (who would like to be ruled by a Genjutsu in eternity ? ), so he was in the way and had to be eliminated by Tobi (using Sasuke for this killing)
-think about a father who would NEVER let down his sons
-think about Itachi's former teacher
-think about the only person Itachi wouldn't suspect ever to betray even the Uchiha
-think about Tobi's personal defense jutsu (becoming temporarily incorporeal)
-think about Kishi wanting to show you all the Itachi's sword penetrating his fathers body from behind
-think about Itachi's father and mother knowing Itachi's intentions already when Itachi shows up behind them and his father is still "proud" of him and then he cheats death with his ability

----> think about

Tobi = Itachi's father

ok, maybe it's absurd but I think it's not that far away considering that Itachi's father could have a split personality and being able to be in 2 places at the same time (knowing "Tobi's" power).

sorry for the wall-of-text as my first post

discuss

Last edited by sugar4free; 06-22-2012 at 08:03 AM.
Reason: I like water bubbles xD

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 590 Discussion and 591 Predictions

Tobi is deffinetly not an uchiha and nagatos eyes are not his own. After sasuke got ems from itachis eyes we have seen him able to unseal his sharingan, but when have we ever seen tobi's eye unsealed? As for nagato we saw madara change his sharingan into the rinnegan. Could it be that the rinnegan could also be unsealed?. This might prove tobi's story about him giving the rinnegan to nagato.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 590 Discussion and 591 Predictions

That was an awesome chapter...
Itachi is always the best...
Now the million dollar question is WHO IS TOBI???????
My guess is tobi is the younger brother of Madara...
It is never mentioned that he died after his eyes were removed...
So he might be able to use a jutsu similar to that of orochimaru...transferring himself to another vessel time by time...
that explains the hairstyle at different times...
And the eyes of Tobi...
The space-time jutsu is similar to that of Kakashi's(That spiral form taking to another dimension)...
So he might have got the other eye of Obito...
According to the flow these are probable...
But who knows wat Kishi thinks...I guess Kishi follows all the forums debate and come up with an idea no one had ever come up with..:D
Lets see how he s gonna take the story from now on...

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 590 Discussion and 591 Predictions

i think this is a gr8 chapter. I love how Itachi finally revealed the truth by letting Sasuke see for himself the choices he had to make just to protect him. Now his hatred has no basis and i wonder what he is going to do now. My best guess is he will join the Leaf to crush Tobi. But ofcourse it wont happen in one chapter if you know Kishi...lol

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 590 Discussion and 591 Predictions

Probabaly for the 1st time since Naruto part 1 that I can't figure out what kishi next plan is, since sasuke got his answer nobody what direction he is going to go. Edo madara is hanging around. If I want to guess I would say kishi would stall for time and deny us Naruto vs tobi and have him try and contact black zetsu, remember tobi asked if he put the spores on him I guess to track his movement so I think tobi would realize that both zetsu are died and go rescue kabuto and fight sasuke