The Nuketown 2025 zombie map that was a bonus for preordering Call of Duty: Black Ops II has been pulled from the playlists for public servers for the shooter sequel, though it is still available to play in custom games with friends. Treyarch Game Design Director David Vonderhaar tweets the news: "Double XP weekend is official over. That means Nuketown 2025 / 24-7 is as well. I know. RIGHT? Don't kill the messenger," following with: "Nuketown 2025 / 24-7 will be back for special events. You can always play it with your friends in Custom Games." For the record, the Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 NUKETOWN 2025 FAQ does not make any reference to this turn of events. Mltiplyr notes another tweet about this we cannot locate in David's timeline (who knew Twitter was so complicated?) where someone asks "Will Nuketown 2025 be available in the regular playlists?" David replies: "Yeah. Probably eventually. We are talking that over internally."

I don't own the game but the guys here in the office are telling me that the nuketown2025 map is a multiplayer only map. it has nothing to do with zombies. also it was available only to those who preordered the game. in addition to the map, it was also a double xp weekend and the moshpit option was the only way to get the double xp. now that the weekend is over, the moshpit option is gone. this is the normal process every time they have a double xp weekend. nothing new or special here.

Beamer wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 00:29:Not sure the anger/surprise. They didn't take the map away from anyone, they just took it off public matchmaking rotation.

Which makes sense - only people that preordered have this map. There's no solution possible without fractioning the community far too much (as right now you can bet about 75%+ of players have that map.)

I'd guess it'll be included in the first map pack. Then there can be separate public matchmaking for people that buy that pack without splintering the community too much.

It's somewhat a sign of it being dumb to offer a multiplayer map as a preorder, but it isn't like they're rendering its value zilch.

I guess that sort of makes sense, but why was it in the rotation for the first week (give or take a few days) then? Didn't it fracture the community the same way?

I just never makes sense to me why devs seem to think that taking stuff away from their playerbase, in any way, shape or form, makes sense. Because it doesn't.

Creston

I don't have the game, and someone already corrected me a bit, but my assumption is that the vast majority of early buyers have this so it wasn't a big deal for launch week.

Someone said it was a special playlist, though, which is what they do for map packs, too. And it's zombie-only, too, which I didn't realize.

Regardless, this is why maps are probably not a good thing to give as a preorder bonus. Skins, solo play stuff, whatever, but not maps.

Beamer wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 00:29:Not sure the anger/surprise. They didn't take the map away from anyone, they just took it off public matchmaking rotation.

Which makes sense - only people that preordered have this map. There's no solution possible without fractioning the community far too much (as right now you can bet about 75%+ of players have that map.)

I'd guess it'll be included in the first map pack. Then there can be separate public matchmaking for people that buy that pack without splintering the community too much.

It's somewhat a sign of it being dumb to offer a multiplayer map as a preorder, but it isn't like they're rendering its value zilch.

I guess that sort of makes sense, but why was it in the rotation for the first week (give or take a few days) then? Didn't it fracture the community the same way?

I just never makes sense to me why devs seem to think that taking stuff away from their playerbase, in any way, shape or form, makes sense. Because it doesn't.

Creston

I don't have the game, and someone already corrected me a bit, but my assumption is that the vast majority of early buyers have this so it wasn't a big deal for launch week.

Someone said it was a special playlist, though, which is what they do for map packs, too. And it's zombie-only, too, which I didn't realize.

Regardless, this is why maps are probably not a good thing to give as a preorder bonus. Skins, solo play stuff, whatever, but not maps.

Beamer wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 00:29:Not sure the anger/surprise. They didn't take the map away from anyone, they just took it off public matchmaking rotation.

Which makes sense - only people that preordered have this map. There's no solution possible without fractioning the community far too much (as right now you can bet about 75%+ of players have that map.)

I'd guess it'll be included in the first map pack. Then there can be separate public matchmaking for people that buy that pack without splintering the community too much.

It's somewhat a sign of it being dumb to offer a multiplayer map as a preorder, but it isn't like they're rendering its value zilch.

I guess that sort of makes sense, but why was it in the rotation for the first week (give or take a few days) then? Didn't it fracture the community the same way?

I just never makes sense to me why devs seem to think that taking stuff away from their playerbase, in any way, shape or form, makes sense. Because it doesn't.

Creston

I don't have the game, and someone already corrected me a bit, but my assumption is that the vast majority of early buyers have this so it wasn't a big deal for launch week.

Someone said it was a special playlist, though, which is what they do for map packs, too. And it's zombie-only, too, which I didn't realize.

Regardless, this is why maps are probably not a good thing to give as a preorder bonus. Skins, solo play stuff, whatever, but not maps.

Fibrocyte wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 10:26:Look, I get it. You're a hardcore PC gamer and you get weirdly jealous when a game designed for consoles gets a lot of attention. Hell, you're so hardcore that you post your gaming rig details in your signature. That's HARDCORE! Speaking of bullshit, did you actually buy two GTX680 cards and SLI them?

Heh. Yeah, it's best not to take me seriously... I say a lot of random shit.

Beamer wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 00:29:Not sure the anger/surprise. They didn't take the map away from anyone, they just took it off public matchmaking rotation.

Which makes sense - only people that preordered have this map. There's no solution possible without fractioning the community far too much (as right now you can bet about 75%+ of players have that map.)

I'd guess it'll be included in the first map pack. Then there can be separate public matchmaking for people that buy that pack without splintering the community too much.

It's somewhat a sign of it being dumb to offer a multiplayer map as a preorder, but it isn't like they're rendering its value zilch.

I guess that sort of makes sense, but why was it in the rotation for the first week (give or take a few days) then? Didn't it fracture the community the same way?

I just never makes sense to me why devs seem to think that taking stuff away from their playerbase, in any way, shape or form, makes sense. Because it doesn't.

Fibrocyte wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 10:26:Look, I get it. You're a hardcore PC gamer and you get weirdly jealous when a game designed for consoles gets a lot of attention. Hell, you're so hardcore that you post your gaming rig details in your signature. That's HARDCORE! Speaking of bullshit, did you actually buy two GTX680 cards and SLI them?

Heh. Yeah, it's best not to take me seriously... I say a lot of random shit.

Fibrocyte wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 06:15:I found it there, too, just a short while ago and couldn't help but smile after all the BS posted in this thread.

The only bullshit in this thread is you admitting that you actually bought this game.

Actually, I bought it for my son. I'm terrible at console games but I've been dabbling with it over the past few days. I've also heard that I'm not the only one to buy it - but maybe that is just a rumor.

Look, I get it. You're a hardcore PC gamer and you get weirdly jealous when a game designed for consoles gets a lot of attention. Hell, you're so hardcore that you post your gaming rig details in your signature. That's HARDCORE! Speaking of bullshit, did you actually buy two GTX680 cards and SLI them?

Beamer wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 00:29:Which makes sense - only people that preordered have this map. There's no solution possible without fractioning the community far too much (as right now you can bet about 75%+ of players have that map.)

A problem created by the idiotic decision to offer a map only to pre-order customers.

I'll never get why people quote me and say what I said, but leave the part where I said it out.

Ventura wrote on Nov 20, 2012, 05:42:Apparently they've thrown Nuketown back into a new "fast-action playlist" in the Bonus category. It's called Chaos Moshpit, and it also has Carrier, Cargo, Express, Hijacked, Slums and Standoff in the rotation.

Predictably, most of those that have bagged Treyarch here won't post again once this news hits.

I found it there, too, just a short while ago and couldn't help but smile after all the BS posted in this thread.

Apparently they've thrown Nuketown back into a new "fast-action playlist" in the Bonus category. It's called Chaos Moshpit, and it also has Carrier, Cargo, Express, Hijacked, Slums and Standoff in the rotation.

Predictably, most of those that have bagged Treyarch here won't post again once this news hits.