I think most people have just outplayed wow and they don't care if they get banned or not,, there is so many botting their ass's off, if they get away with it. they get gear and will do some bgs fully geared.. if they get caught and banned they just say fuck it and quit,

Very short term way of thinking. Bots = More frustrated players = people taking to botting themselves or canceling their subs = Less people, longer waiting times, people seeing less of an reason to keep playing = even less players.

Bots are capable of killing a game because they take the fun out of it for everyone not botting. There's no point in playing with bots at all. Just had an AB where about 12/15 - 13/15 people were bots. The other side was horrible equipped, had no coordination and played abysmal but they still won because those bots simply ran around as one big group zerging a single base.

there is another true story and maybe more relevant : ppl who are losing their BGS always say "its full of bot"....

Im doing pvp since two years, almost only pvp, I do lot of random BGS with friends and without them, I see more ppl QQ for bottting than bot.

And if bot are so many, you should have approximately the same % on your team as in the opposite team.

On last 2/3 mounth, I enjoy writing on every BG chat (at the start) "say 111 if you are not a bot" (or something similar) 10ppl/10ppl write 111 and.....suspance...10 min after (with the same players)there is always someone QQing because our team is full of bot....lolz

play with premade of 5 friends
queue 10m bg (usually cta)
have fun
win every bg
have more fun

Because there's always 5 people around and having to be forced to queue with others constantly to be able to play is fun.

Originally Posted by strangerdanger

I don't see many bots. There are still a LOT of bad players. Might as well be playing with bots.

How about you actually pay attention? No idea if it is worse on the European realms but the last !7! games I might aswell not have played because from the very beginning I never stood a chance at winning them. We're queueing with two people currently and at times we're the only ones who aren't bots.

Playing Warsong when only two people actually make it out of the flagroom isn't fun. Knowing that 8 people stand around at the exit mounting up with 1-2 minutes delay and you might aswell look for a cozy corner to hide in till the game is over.

Playing Silvershard Mine with 7 Bots, none of them above 300k hp getting farmed by the Alliance 5 man group in the middle isn't fun either.

Losing Arathi twice in a row because you don't have enough players to put at least one at each base with the rest being a giant zerg ball.

Up to MoP I had victory rates of around 70-80% on some maps random. Now I'm down to 60% and it will soon plummet further because I'm losing one game after another because of bots. These aren't bad players, they're bots. They obvious as hell and people denying their existance either get kicks out of getting wins thrown at them because they're lucky or are botting themselves.
Even a horrible, horrible player will in most cases contribute more to an game then a bot does. The only battleground where bots are even remotely usefull are capture the flag ones because they're destroying everything as a giant zerg ball because they all have the exact same target value thus tunneling a single target into the ground if they're decently equipped.

I'm playing since end TBC. I've had quite a few pauses for different reasons but this is the very first time I'm completly fed up with the game and can't eat as much as I want to puke. Getting the Bot banned by making it illegal isn't good enough, these people need to lose their accounts once and for all. Nothing short of that is going to stop them from botting in the future once the next bot pops up.

I've seen quite a few people call out people in my BGs for being bots. It usually follows with the accused person making a snarky comment.

There are quite a few bots, but not as much as people make it out to be. Of course the OP's post is an extreme case.

Regardless, Blizzard needs to step up bot prevention. I think a scare tactic would be the best thing to do. Huge ban wave that goes public. Kind of like in mid-Cata, and all of Arena Junkies exploded with QQ posts.

there is another true story and maybe more relevant : ppl who are losing their BGS always say "its full of bot"....

Im doing pvp since two years, almost only pvp, I do lot of random BGS with friends and without them, I see more ppl QQ for bottting than bot.

And if bot are so many, you should have approximately the same % on your team as in the opposite team.

On last 2/3 mounth, I enjoy writing on every BG chat (at the start) "say 111 if you are not a bot" (or something similar) 10ppl/10ppl write 111 and.....suspance...10 min after (with the same players)there is always someone QQing because our team is full of bot....lolz

While Bots are annoying, they should be evenly distributed among the two factions, so if you are constantly losing it probably isn't due to bots.

However, PVP in general has become much less enjoyable with the sheer amount of CC in the game now. If often seems like I spend more time out of control of my character than not. I realize my DK is often the first kill target so that may contribute somewhat, but I also realized that I don't have fun in random BGs anymore and end up logging off more angry than I was before I started playing.

I've seen quite a few people call out people in my BGs for being bots. It usually follows with the accused person making a snarky comment.

There are quite a few bots, but not as much as people make it out to be. Of course the OP's post is an extreme case.

Regardless, Blizzard needs to step up bot prevention. I think a scare tactic would be the best thing to do. Huge ban wave that goes public. Kind of like in mid-Cata, and all of Arena Junkies exploded with QQ posts.

Sorry but no, these people aren't bad players or come up with snarky comments, they are bots plain and simple. It's not people zerging somewhere in the middle simply being brain dead they're genuine bots. They always behave the same, they do the exact same thing every single bg, they are obvious as hell if you look at a few things that give them away right away and make a clear distinction between an bot and someone simply being bad.

Originally Posted by Skarssen

While Bots are annoying, they should be evenly distributed among the two factions, so if you are constantly losing it probably isn't due to bots.

No bots aren't destributed evenly amongst the factions, first of all you're assuming both factions do have even numbers when BG queue times clearly show they don't. Also they're mostly distributed at random, you might have 9 or 0 in your team, it is completly up to (bad) luck.
When playing my Alliance rogue for example I do have some, but by far nowhere neat the numbers I encounter on my Horde shaman. Invite times for my rogue are pretty much instant, my shaman has to wait between 5-10 minutes.

Basically when I do battlegrounds, the following happens. A lot of undergeared, bad or just bots join the team. I cap 3 bases solo in AB for example and do top damage etc. What happens? because of those bots, noobs and undergeared we lose 2 bases. Now you would think that if I went back and defended 1 base and stayed there we would be fine, right? NO, what happens is that if I leave a base it's get capped behind back and if I stay we lose other bases.

The above example is of AB and it's not a joke. multiple times in AB this happened to me. Bots ruin random battlegrounds and I don't bother to qeue for them anymore (rbgs for the win). Isle of Conquest is a joke. if you qeue up in the night your guaranteed to have 70 bots in that battleground and ofcourse the downvoting system doesn't work so you get dumped in that battleground regardless of downvoting it.

Sorry but no, these people aren't bad players or come up with snarky comments, they are bots plain and simple.

Bots that talk? That's a new one!

All I'm saying is that I've seen countless people claim that another person is a bot in a BG. Almost every time the accused person talks back. They obviously aren't bots. But because of people's lack of observation, they are over-exaggerating the bot problem.

I've done over two hundred BGs this expansion, and have yet to count more than 2 bots. Perhaps I'm one of the lucky ones that have good queues.