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Pokemon Species: Ho-oh
Nickname: Ho-oh
OT: PPorg
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 25560
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) not EV trained (has all stats raised a bit)
IV's: (if known) Perfect 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Regenerator
Moves: Extrasensory, Weather Ball, Fly, Gust
Level Caught at: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Current Level: 27
Stats: 102, 92, 62, 65, 96, 62
Location Caught: (i'm assuming dream radar)
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: the dream radar pokeball
Any other notes?: I heard you can test if a pokemon is hacked by putting them on the GTS, so i put it on there for a minute and it accepted it, but still not sure if this proves it with previous generation pokemon. I also heard you can catch ho-oh as low as level 5 on the dream radar depending on the number of badges you have.

Pokemon Species: Groudon
Nickname: Groudon
OT: Finom
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 14545
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) slightly in all, bit more in attack and speed, but not EV trained
IV's: (if known) Perfect 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Drought
Moves: Eruption, Rest, Fissure, Solar Beam
Level Caught at: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region
Current Level:100
Stats: 346/345/320/265/221/203
Location Caught: Hoenn
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: haven't put this one on the GTS if that is a way to test it...

Pokemon Species: Ho-oh
Nickname: Ho-oh
OT: PPorg
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 25560
Shiny?: yes
EV's: (if known) not EV trained (has all stats raised a bit)
IV's: (if known) Perfect 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Adamant
Characteristic: Alert to sounds
Ability: Regenerator
Moves: Extrasensory, Weather Ball, Fly, Gust
Level Caught at: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Unova region
Current Level: 27
Stats: 102, 92, 62, 65, 96, 62
Location Caught: (i'm assuming dream radar)
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: the dream radar pokeball
Any other notes?: I heard you can test if a pokemon is hacked by putting them on the GTS, so i put it on there for a minute and it accepted it, but still not sure if this proves it with previous generation pokemon. I also heard you can catch ho-oh as low as level 5 on the dream radar depending on the number of badges you have.

Pokemon Species: Groudon
Nickname: Groudon
OT: Finom
OT Gender: (red=female, blue=male) white
IDno: 14545
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: (if known) slightly in all, bit more in attack and speed, but not EV trained
IV's: (if known) Perfect 31/31/31/31/31/31
Nature: Quiet
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Drought
Moves: Eruption, Rest, Fissure, Solar Beam
Level Caught at: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region
Current Level:100
Stats: 346/345/320/265/221/203
Location Caught: Hoenn
Egg?: N/A
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: haven't put this one on the GTS if that is a way to test it...

Ho-Oh is hacked. Dream Radar Pokemon cannot be shiny, and the only way to get a level 20 Ho-Oh is from the Dream Radar.

I don't know about Groudon, but I am ALWAYS suspicious about shiny 6IV legendaries. They're almost never legitimate.

Ho-Oh is hacked. Dream Radar Pokemon cannot be shiny, and the only way to get a level 20 Ho-Oh is from the Dream Radar.

I don't know about Groudon, but I am ALWAYS suspicious about shiny 6IV legendaries. They're almost never legitimate.

While I don't share your skepticism with regards to 5/6 IV'd legends, you are correct about that Groudon, 31/31/31/31/31/31 Quite is not a valid Gen 3/4 spread.

With regards to the OP of those two pokemon, Dream Radar pokemon can be obtained as low as lvl 5, that is correct. They can be RNGed too. I personally RNGed a few lvl 5 legends from the Dream Radar. With regards to testing the legality of pokemon by putting them on the GTS ... Nintendo sucks at hack checking, don't bother relying on them. I'm not really in the know when it comes to gen 6, but in gen 4/5 their hack checking was laughably depressingly terrible. Like I said, I'm no gen 6 expert, but from what I hear they haven't really improved in the hack checking department (that terribly hacked Ho-oh proves this to be true actually). If a pokemon is rejected from the GTS, then it's a terrible hack ... or failed the ridiculous name filter (can Weedle be offered on the GTS this generation? He was banned in gen 5 for having a "bad name"), but if a pokemon passes the GTS filter, well then you can't really tell if it is hacked or not from that.

So ho-oh definitely but groudon not sure but likely? Thank you for the fast reply

There's no doubt about it, they are both hacked. Like varanus_komodoensis said, Dream Radar pokemon cannot be shiny, and Ho-oh can only have the Regenerator ability from the Dream Radar. Any shiny Ho-oh below lvl 45 (the lowest lvl Ho-oh could be captured at in gen 4) or any shiny Ho-oh with the Regenerator ability are 100% hacked.

Groudon is equally hacked for the same basic reasons. That IV spread and nature combination did not exist in gen 3. There is no official pokemon game in existence that could generate either of those pokemon, and as such, those pokemon can only be generated by unofficial software external to any legit pokemon game. They were created external to the game and are, by definition, hacked.

Thank you so a 6 IV kyogre would fall into that same catagory? Can't believe how much hacking goes on!

Not necessarily. Just because there is a hex-flawless shiny pokemon does not mean it is default hacked. It just so happens that that Groudon was hacked because it cannot legally exist. There are other spreads that can exist and 3 of those spreads happen to have favorable natures for Special attackers. a hex-flawless Shiny Kyorge isn't really all that rare, so long as it has a valid nature that is.

I'm not familiar with the OT (and the pokecheck blacklist of old seems to have either moved or been taken down, either way I no longer have a link to it) but it appears fine on the surface. One possible hack checking thing you could try is to use the mirror and revert it to its original form. If it had its DW ability (Sheer Force) then it's hacked, but if it has its regular ability (Sand Force) then it looks legal on the surface.

Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: Latias
OT: Namie
OTV color: White
IDno:47374
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Appear to be all 0
IV's: x/31/x/31/x/31
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Mist Ball, Surf, Recover, Shadow Ball
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 50
Stats: 145/100/119/130/141/117
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: I'm typically suspicious of anything not from Kalos, due to how easy it was to hack in Pokemon.

Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: Latias
OT: Namie
OTV color: White
IDno:47374
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Appear to be all 0
IV's: x/31/x/31/x/31
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Mist Ball, Surf, Recover, Shadow Ball
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 50
Stats: 145/100/119/130/141/117
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: I'm typically suspicious of anything not from Kalos, due to how easy it was to hack in Pokemon.

1. If it's too good to be true then most likely it is especially if it's from the GTS/Wondertrade it's a popular place for people to get rid of their hacks (I know people that do this).2. Can you tell us it's hidden power so we can calculate it's IVs correctly? Based off the stats it has 10-11/31/28-29/31/12-13/31 but the hidden power will help narrow down the results

Actually, scratch this, I googled it's OT/ID and it belongs to a known hacker, this OT/ID combo was reported on Smogon too.

Last edited by Fissurous; 26th October 2014 at 6:47 PM.
Reason: found hacker on google

Pokemon Species: Latias
Nickname: Latias
OT: Namie
OTV color: White
IDno:47374
Shiny?: Yes
EV's: Appear to be all 0
IV's: x/31/x/31/x/31
Nature: Relaxed
Characteristic: Likes to thrash about
Ability: Levitate
Moves: Mist Ball, Surf, Recover, Shadow Ball
Level Caught at: Unknown
Current Level: 50
Stats: 145/100/119/130/141/117
Location Caught: Seems to have traveled across both space and time in order to reach the Kalos region from the Hoenn region.
Egg?: No
Pokeball Caught In: Master Ball
Any other notes?: I'm typically suspicious of anything not from Kalos, due to how easy it was to hack in Pokemon.

Hacked, OT matches one of the ones used by a fake GTS that used to spit out hacks (before previous generation wi-fi was shut down).

And it's not exactly any harder to hack in 6th gen than it was before, you should be suspicious because it's the GTS, not because it lacks a little blue pentagon.

Level Caught at: egg received 10/1/2014, hatched 10/1/2014
Current Level: 11
Stats: att 29, def, 26, sp att 27, sp def 23, speed 21
Location Caught: hatched Lumiose city
Egg?: yes
Pokeball Caught In: moon ball
Any other notes?: got him in a wonder trade, concerned because it is marked as KOR which I guess means koreana nd I read somewhere that Korean games donbt connect without cheating, but also read that that was for previous gens...

The colored stats just show which stats are affected by the nature and korean games can trade just fine in 6th gen (the issue was for 4th gen I believe), plus you can set your game to a different language than the region you bought it from and still have it count as foreign for Masuda Method. This just looks like a regular bred Lapras.

Hacked, OT matches one of the ones used by a fake GTS that used to spit out hacks (before previous generation wi-fi was shut down).

And it's not exactly any harder to hack in 6th gen than it was before, you should be suspicious because it's the GTS, not because it lacks a little blue pentagon.

Aww, well that's a bit disappointing. And when I said harder, I meant that like there are fewer ways. I only know of the Powersaves device, but even that's really limited. And I do tend to be a bit suspicious really of all online-based trading. Way back when, I used to be all for hacking in Pokemon, but that kind of took away the fun really, so I stopped. I mean this generation, almost my entire Pokedex came from trading, as opposed to cheats in previous generations. It's also in part to competitive now. I prefer taking the time to breed a perfect-iv Pokemon, rather than just pop my game into a device, and select the codes for it.