But just listening to him, he is an awful. He said if you think eli is great then you are looking througb giants colored glasses and you just dont know anything about football, then goes to commercial for 10 mins. Then he claims because he is a diehard fan his say is better then any random fan on the radio. F him.

You never realize how much better wfan is on its regular schedule, even if you have bad opinions of the normal hosts, until you hear the awful replacements during vacation

the 0-6 start ,the 7-9 record ,being shut out 3 times in one year in today's nfl with a franchise qb (week 15 last year ,week 3 and week 15 this year ).Not being able to win a crap division where the winner had a rookie head coach while we have a 2 time super bowl mvp and a hall of fame head coach ? Cant take him seriously he is on the Giants payroll ..

the 0-6 start ,the 7-9 record ,being shut out 3 times in one year in today's nfl with a franchise qb (week 15 last year ,week 3 and week 15 this year ).Not being able to win a crap division where the winner had a rookie head coach while we have a 2 time super bowl mvp and a hall of fame head coach ? Cant take him seriously he is on the Giants payroll ..

If you listened to his comments, it sounds like everyone takes the hit. You can look at everyone and point out mistakes and miscues. Questionable coaching moves, questionable personnel moves, questionable player effort and decisionmaking.

Everyone on BBI has to listen to that interview. Wish Pappa would post here on BBI. Great, logical explanation why Fewel is back, Gilbride is back, and defense of Eli.

What I found most interesting, however, is what questions Pappa was asked. Sid asked very straight, tough questions about:

1. Both Coordinators
2. Reese
3. Manning.

Not one question about - nor one mention of - Coughlin. Almost as though it was agreed, as part of Pappa coming on live, that he would only agree to be on if there was no questions about Coughlin. Otherwise how do you do an interview where you question the Coordinators, the GM, the QB and not even mention the head coach by name even once the entire interview? How does that happen? It had to be intentional and agreed upon ... which means what exactly?

Sintim - Coughlin and Sheridan
Petrus - Flaherty went on how this guy was a steal
Barden - Mike Sullivan
Beckum - Gilbride and Pope
JJ - Sullivan and Coughlin
Herlizch while not drafted John Mara. Please stop with the BC and ACC love.

You can blame Reese and his front office for cockblocking JJ with Cruz.

Most of his sacks came in two games. He generated very little pressure for most of the season. He's got a place in a rotation given his strong run defense but they need someone to generate more pressure.

These are my favorites - the Eli booster club, which consistently pisses on "stats" as the measure of QB performance.....consistently uses stats to claim that Eli was so much better than Simms, ignoring a)the very different nature of football today from the football of 1979-93 b)the fact that Simms never had remotely the kind of receivers Eli has had.

The very best receiver Phil Simms ever threw to was a half-season of Mike Sherrard in 1993. Eli's had a half-dozen receivers better than that (Toomer, Plax, Smith, Cruz, Nicks, Manningham). Quarterbacks are also far more protected than they used to be and defenders are given much less leeway by officials than they were in Simms' day.

I don't think BBI collectively likes ANY sports show host on WFAN.. Sid's problems aside and his bashing on ELI gets annoying but at least he talks about the Giants. Everyone brings up Sirius like it's some superior product, I happen to think it's pretty boring listing to the NFL sirius crew with the exception of a few. oh and BTW, I also enjoy francesa, joe and evan and Boomer and carton so I guess Im in the minority because I find WFAN to be very enjoyable.

I don't think BBI collectively likes ANY sports show host on WFAN.. Sid's problems aside and his bashing on ELI gets annoying but at least he talks about the Giants. Everyone brings up Sirius like it's some superior product, I happen to think it's pretty boring listing to the NFL sirius crew with the exception of a few. oh and BTW, I also enjoy francesa, joe and evan and Boomer and carton so I guess Im in the minority because I find WFAN to be very enjoyable.

It's because nobody talks about the Giants on that station. Everyone's a Jet fan or Francesa, who doesn't bother with it.

Sid talks Giants, but he's a lunatic, and it's a stupid discussion. He's still talking about the same topic (and congratulating himself) he brought up EIGHT SHOWS AGO.

at least you get Giants talk. Just be happy they're discussing the Giants at all because when he hosts a show it's pretty much all Giants talk. He likes to bust balls a lot re Eli.. I love Eli but he deserves some bashing this year, I'm sure if he played well next year Sid would be praising him. I know plenty of Giants fans who have been bashing Eli this year, he does not get a pass at all. Next year around Christmas Sid will be discussing how amazing Eli played, but at least he will be discussing it.

But he's far more interesting to listen to than 99% of the radio hosts on the WFAN and ESPN radio. He might be a degenerate off the air and he is clearly a self promoter on the air but I would love to see him come back to the NY area. I know he's posted on BBI but does anybody know what his screen name is and has he posted in awhile?

These are my favorites - the Eli booster club, which consistently pisses on "stats" as the measure of QB performance.....consistently uses stats to claim that Eli was so much better than Simms, ignoring a)the very different nature of football today from the football of 1979-93 b)the fact that Simms never had remotely the kind of receivers Eli has had.

The very best receiver Phil Simms ever threw to was a half-season of Mike Sherrard in 1993. Eli's had a half-dozen receivers better than that (Toomer, Plax, Smith, Cruz, Nicks, Manningham). Quarterbacks are also far more protected than they used to be and defenders are given much less leeway by officials than they were in Simms' day.

Greg, Simms was (and always will be) my favorite Giant and football player of all time. And he would be in the HOF right now if he was the starting QB in 1990 SB (although I think it's fair to question if Giants win that game without Hostetler's mobility) ... but Simms gets very little credit by Giants fans and, while I get that for fans who didn't see him play, I never understand the lack of respect for those that did. He was one tough as nails SOB and a perfect fit for those Giants teams. And, I've always said, I wouldn't have traded him for anyone, especially Mr. dink and dunk himself, Joe Montana.

Joe and Evan do talk Giants with those guests but way more Jets talk all year regardless of what is happening and they even drag Banks into Jets talk as well. It's not even close the percentage of Jets to Giants talk.

I can understand they will talk more about the jets. But in a 3 hour show I think they cover pretty much every team. And they actually arent giants haters like the clowns before them. Thats usually the only show i get to listen to during work and Im glad its them.

These are my favorites - the Eli booster club, which consistently pisses on "stats" as the measure of QB performance.....consistently uses stats to claim that Eli was so much better than Simms, ignoring a)the very different nature of football today from the football of 1979-93 b)the fact that Simms never had remotely the kind of receivers Eli has had.

The very best receiver Phil Simms ever threw to was a half-season of Mike Sherrard in 1993. Eli's had a half-dozen receivers better than that (Toomer, Plax, Smith, Cruz, Nicks, Manningham). Quarterbacks are also far more protected than they used to be and defenders are given much less leeway by officials than they were in Simms' day.

Greg, Simms was (and always will be) my favorite Giant and football player of all time. And he would be in the HOF right now if he was the starting QB in 1990 SB (although I think it's fair to question if Giants win that game without Hostetler's mobility) ... but Simms gets very little credit by Giants fans and, while I get that for fans who didn't see him play, I never understand the lack of respect for those that did. He was one tough as nails SOB and a perfect fit for those Giants teams. And, I've always said, I wouldn't have traded him for anyone, especially Mr. dink and dunk himself, Joe Montana.

Yep. Simms gets treated like just some random schmuck by quite a few around here. He was a damned good QB who was utterly fearless and who succeeded despite playing with mediocre offensive talent and a prohibitively conservative offense.

Bill Walsh only drafted Montana because the Giants picked Simms first. The Niners didn't have a first round pick in 1979 because they traded it for OJ Simpson, but they had the first pick in the second round. Walsh told Simms at their last workout before the draft that they were certain no one was going to take him in the first and that he would be their pick in the second. Had Simms been a Niner, I don't know that he would have been as great as Montana but he'd be viewed a hell of a lot differently today.

Sintim - Coughlin and Sheridan
Petrus - Flaherty went on how this guy was a steal
Barden - Mike Sullivan
Beckum - Gilbride and Pope
JJ - Sullivan and Coughlin
Herlizch while not drafted John Mara. Please stop with the BC and ACC love.

You can blame Reese and his front office for cockblocking JJ with Cruz.

So Jernigan has two decent games playing out the string and now he should ave been ahead of Cruz all along? Sorry, he still sucks. Too small, not talented enough.

... Had Simms been a Niner, I don't know that he would have been as great as Montana but he'd be viewed a hell of a lot differently today.

And I don't think Montana would have necessarily fared nearly as well as Simms had Montana found himself playing with the 1979-1986 Giants. No Jerry Rice. Roger Craig. No passes for 2 yards turning into 60+ yard TDs. Nope. Stand there, throw the ball, and watch from the ground to try to see if it was complete. That was the life of Phil Simms. And was great at it.

no one worth a shit puts Simms in the "random schmuck" category. Both QBs were special in their own right. You want to tell me Simms would be the better QB for this Giants team? I can't argue with that. But Eli does have the bigger and flat out better body of work. He never misses games and he did lead the Giants to two complete super bowl titles. Simms threw a sweet ball and was as tough as a boot. Eli and Simms brought different strengths and weaknesses to the field. Both might have played better with more talent or in a different system but we can only go by wins losses and stats, do a degree. No harm in liking one over the other. But Eli has the bigger body of work. It is what it is.

with someone questioning Eli's value or potential going forward even if some of the doom and gloom is probably a bit far fetched, but I can see how a Giants fan would be a little nervous about 2014 and beyond. But Sid is a fuck wad when he disparages Eli's accomplishments through the 2012 season. The guy hasn't been perfect but you can't take his legendary play in 07 and 2011. And he's been solid throughout most of his career period. You can't take that away. Sid is a troll. Fuck him and fuck anyone who goes the Eli got lucky route. That's just terrible stupid talk.

It's perfectly valid to make a case for Eli over Simms. What bugs me is the dismissive tone some people take in those discussions, though, as if it's lunacy to suggest that Simms might have been the better QB.

Me? I'm a Simms guy all the way, but I don't discount my own biases and I'm plenty willing to concede that you can convincingly argue the other way.

I'm not going to ever argue that. I wasn't comparing Eli and Simms (Montana and Sims, yes, but not Eli)... It took me a long time to accept Eli but I got past that before he won his first SB ... for me it's been all gravy ever since ... fact is that it took 20 years to replace Simms and it will probably take as long, if not longer, to replace Eli. Most Eli bashers don't seem to understand that.

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