“The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and body. Hail the Machine!”

I return to steal your thunder! If anyone ever pops in here again, they should join me in playing Injustice. My PSN and Xbox Live names are both Fromundaman, as is my steam name, so you guys should stay in touch.

Actually I moved on to DOTA 2. The HoN community as well as some of the heroes they were releasing pushed me away from the game for good.

That being said since then it's been all fighters and DOTA 2. Might start playing Infinite Crisis (DC's attempt at a MOBA) as well depending on how that game turns out. I signed up for the beta, but I'll have to see how the game ends up playing.

“The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and body. Hail the Machine!”

Forgot how badly balanced some stuff was. (Facing Int heroes with Sigsimund is like laughing all the way to the bank with 600 range 5-6 second taunt)

Also looking back I made horrible mistakes in some heroes, Sicarus having Honour guard and Orbital Bombardment as a Captain..Aun'va makes me cringe seeing him. If I had the chance I'd help remake each hero to how he's supposed to be.

“The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and body. Hail the Machine!”

Yes, but it wouldn't really fit him (Also only Chapter Masters can call down an Orbital strike).

I want to get them closer to fluff, closer to SC's on the tabletop rather then some of the very generic abilities we've got some for some heroes

For example Sicarius has the BattleForged Heroes rule, which grants a squad of Tactical Marines special rules (Counter-Attack, Infiltrate, Scout, or Tank-Hunters). This could be what the Honour Guard is instead changed to, A tactical squad that he leads that he can use an ability on to change their specialty.

Frag Grenade is very generic, instead buffering his capability as a leader he would instead have his special ability Rites of Battle, which on the TT grants leadership to all Ultramarines on the field, which could be a buff based rally cry for armor/damage, or we could instead grant him The Imperium's Sword (which grants him and his unit Furious Charge), where he can take an ally with him for a charge into the enemy. Either a hero, or if that's too much, his tactical squad charge with him.

Now he is to lead from the front, he has a special Armor, The Mantle of Suzerain (Artificer suit with FNP), this would be an armor booster with regen attached, thus allowing for health sustain while leading from the front.

Now for his ultimate he has a special blade, the Talassarian Tempest Blade, which is a power sword with the Coup De Grace ability. He can make a single strike with +2 strength and Instant Death, this ability could deal extra damage to a melee ability, and if they are at a % of health, it will cut them down, but also have a chance to fail, also we could also grant Rites of Battle here, should he manage to finish off a hero with this ability all units are inspired nearby gaining mana/hp regen and attack.

Which is a lengthy post, but it underscores that we need a good design focus "The character", rather then a generic 'give them everything'. I want some of them redesigned because it would make them closer to what we had picked at the time, rather then some of the generic stand in's we had.

You know, I'd love to work on this again. There were a lot of things we could improve on, especially given all the new lore that's come out. It'd also give us a chance to level the playing field again and evaluate the map as a whole.

The problem is where would we do it. x.x

It'd be amusing to pitch it to GW and see if they'd be interested in stepping into the moba arena, but that's highly unlikely.

“The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and body. Hail the Machine!”