How on earth can you call a manager that has won pretty much everything shite? I hate Mourinho because he's a cunt but I can still appreciate that he is good at his job. Same with Ferguson. Fucking hell Benitez must have really annoyed you for you to be that blind.

It's not 2006 anymore sunshine. Look at his last year at Liverpool and then his embarrassing reign at Inter. I know you're a Liverpool fan, therefore you love to live in the past (oh yes, I went there), but you're only as good as your last game. Fuck knows when Rafa's last game was, but it obviously wasn't good cause he got the sack.

Hopefully he's out before Xmas. C'mon Roman. Do what you do best. Beat your record Roman. Sack him just before the game tmomorrow!

People still calling rafa a bad manager? He won the champions league with a horrible team. Got us top 4 most seasons as well. He failed in his last season and did a bad job at inter but to call him a shite manager is stupid. He is a good tactician and will get Chelsea 3rd spot. Nothing more nothing less league wise. You might get a cup run as well.

It's not 2006 anymore sunshine. Look at his last year at Liverpool and then his embarrassing reign at Inter. I know you're a Liverpool fan, therefore you love to live in the past (oh yes, I went there), but you're only as good as your last game. Fuck knows when Rafa's last game was, but it obviously wasn't good cause he got the sack.

Hopefully he's out before Xmas. C'mon Roman. Do what you do best. Beat your record Roman. Sack him just before the game tmomorrow!

We won the CL in 2005. I'm suprised you don't remember us knocking you out of it.

Anyway, just wait and see. I can almost understand your point, he has been out of the game a couple of years but I wouldn't take his Inter period seriously. He didn't want to be there. He was sacked for giving Morretti shit publically for not stick his hand in his pocket. He goaded Morretti into sacking him. The FSG gobshites took over from the other two cunts at us and I think he thought he would walk into the job once Hodgson was inevitably sacked for being fucking useless. Dalglish got it instead and since then he's not really known what to do, turning down most offers (including yourselves last season) because he thought we may come knocking. He wasn't even considered by The FSG gobshites so is now just taking his chances.

As I said, wait and see. There is no better coache in football. Mourinho may be better at getting his players believing in themselves and Ferguson may have better scouting but Rafa knows football inside and out. He'll sort your defence and you'll challenge for the title. Which, luckily for everybody else, will somehow manage to piss your support off more.

If he does get sacked it'll probably be for calling Abramovich out on something. He's got form for having murder with owners so don't think he won't.

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if you're as good as your last game then di matteo fucking sucked and jose mourinho can't beat midtable spanish teams. he had a team full of players at inter that were infatuated with jose and acted, really like a bunch of cunts. and their board weren't much better. he's ruthless, but you can't argue with his results outside of inter.

It's not 2006 anymore sunshine. Look at his last year at Liverpool and then his embarrassing reign at Inter. I know you're a Liverpool fan, therefore you love to live in the past (oh yes, I went there), but you're only as good as your last game. Fuck knows when Rafa's last game was, but it obviously wasn't good cause he got the sack.

Hopefully he's out before Xmas. C'mon Roman. Do what you do best. Beat your record Roman. Sack him just before the game tmomorrow!

People still calling rafa a bad manager? He won the champions league with a horrible team. Got us top 4 most seasons as well. He failed in his last season and did a bad job at inter but to call him a shite manager is stupid. He is a good tactician and will get Chelsea 3rd spot. Nothing more nothing less league wise. You might get a cup run as well.

King Kenneh won the Premier League title with Blackburn. Is he a good manager in 2012?

Anyway, just wait and see. I can almost understand your point, he has been out of the game a couple of years but I wouldn't take his Inter period seriously. He didn't want to be there. He was sacked for giving Morretti shit publically for not stick his hand in his pocket. He goaded Morretti into sacking him. The FSG gobshites took over from the other two cunts at us and I think he thought he would walk into the job once Hodgson was inevitably sacked for being fucking useless. Dalglish got it instead and since then he's not really known what to do, turning down most offers (including yourselves last season) because he thought we may come knocking. He wasn't even considered by The FSG gobshites so is now just taking his chances.

It's best not to take his Inter stint too seriously, as all he was trying to do was prove he was better than Mourinho by trying to change EVERYTHING Mourinho had in place. And we all know he failed. Silly man.

As I said, wait and see. There is no better coache in football. Mourinho may be better at getting his players believing in themselves and Ferguson may have better scouting but Rafa knows football inside and out. He'll sort your defence and you'll challenge for the title. Which, luckily for everybody else, will somehow manage to piss your support off more.

If he does get sacked it'll probably be for calling Abramovich out on something. He's got form for having murder with owners so don't think he won't.

If he is the best coach in football, why was he always so far off first position bar 2008-09? Why did it take him all the way until 2009 to challenge for the title after winning the Champions League in 2005?

Rafa may know football inside out (right), but it seems he has trouble getting it across to his players.

if you're as good as your last game then di matteo fucking sucked and jose mourinho can't beat midtable spanish teams. he had a team full of players at inter that were infatuated with jose and acted, really like a bunch of cunts. and their board weren't much better. he's ruthless, but you can't argue with his results outside of inter.

Man management is part of the job. If you want to come in saying much how better you are than Mourinho, then you best prove it to your players before changing everything that made them successful.

It takes a real special man to mess up such a successful team. Chelsea players also had a boner for Mourinho. Didn't stop a talentless hack like Grant coming in and leading us to the final day of the Premier League where we could still win the title and the Champions League final.

Oh and I can argue his time outside of Inter. I can argue that he was never close to winning the Premier League bar 2009. I can argue that he won nothing at Liverpool after his second year. I can argue that he came a shcoking 7th after coming close to winning the title the season before.

It's best not to take his Inter stint too seriously, as all he was trying to do was prove he was better than Mourinho by trying to change EVERYTHING Mourinho had in place. And we all know he failed. Silly man.

He didn't though, he saw that a pretty old squad (Mourinho doesn't do youth) needed certain parts replacing but wasn't given the money to do so. Unlike Mourinho.

If he is the best coach in football, why was he always so far off first position bar 2008-09? Why did it take him all the way until 2009 to challenge for the title after winning the Champions League in 2005?

Rafa may know football inside out (right), but it seems he has trouble getting it across to his players.

Well we finished on 82 points in 05-06. We finished in the CL Final in 06-07. We didn't do much in 07-08 although we got to the semi's of the CL. 08-09 you mentioned. 09-10 we did awful in the league although we did get to the Semi-Finals of the Europa League So how far away from major trophies were we? Well, not very. With a side constructed on average money he was able to be challenging for something in May of every year he was with us. Frankly that's what I'm after from a manager.

Man management is part of the job. If you want to come in saying much how better you are than Mourinho, then you best prove it to your players before changing everything that made them successful.

It takes a real special man to mess up such a successful team. Chelsea players also had a boner for Mourinho. Didn't stop a talentless hack like Grant coming in and leading us to the final day of the Premier League where we could still win the title and the Champions League final.

I like that you think Benitez gives two fucks about Mourinho. Mourinho may care about him but Benitez doesn't give a fuck. He took the Inter job because they were the European Champions and offered him it. That's how shit he is by the way, after finishing seventh in the league with us the Champions of Europe wanted him.

Oh and I can argue his time outside of Inter. I can argue that he was never close to winning the Premier League bar 2009. I can argue that he won nothing at Liverpool after his second year. I can argue that he came a shcoking 7th after coming close to winning the title the season before.

He also won the Spanish League with a team not called Barcalona or Real Madrid. Twice. And the UEFA Cup. And the World Club Championship.

But carry on with the Mourinho love in. As I said, when he does well with you it'll wind you up even more which will actually be enjoyable. Also get ready for some of your players to say how much he has made them better players. That happens a lot.

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man management is part of the job, but success is a bigger part. success at tenerife, valencia, liverpool + individual awards outweighs his poor run at inter, while he still won a couple of cups. he fucked up, and i'm sure he'd admit it, but that doesn't make him a terrible manager.

it's such a fine line. if rafa had come in and improved inter even more, people would be hailing what a genius he was at taking a great team and making it even better. instead the inter players resisted change (sound familiar joel?) and everything collapsed underneath him. players like materazzi (john terry) were complete tools and inter fell apart. hell, they still haven't recovered properly, they're on the up but rafa wanting different players wasn't the most ridiculous thing ever. full of old players on big wages. sound familiar again?

you can argue his time outside inter. you could argue taking tenerife and extremadura up to the top division. you could argue him winning 2 league titles with valencia. you could argue his champions league win. you could argue his numerous cup wins. you could argue his numerous personal awards. you could argue how he brought suso, sterling, shelvey and completely changed the liverpool academy. see, it's easy to pick and choose certain parts of his career to suit other arguments too.