I've tried several bottles of Pump Spray and really didn't notice anything but a little better vascularity. I wouldn't buy again. And UR Spray I thought wasn't much better. After going through 5 bottles, I wouldn't buy that again. Also gets expensive when one bottle only last 2 weeks and can be a PITA when you should apply twice a day. Meh. I am a fan of the Pat's other products though, including PN COP.

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Ursolic acid looks great on paper. Even though some things look great on paper doesn't mean they will always work out in real world application.

Ursolic acid looks great on paper. Even though some things look great on paper doesn't mean they will always work out in real world application.

I have had pretty damn good results with UR-Spray. Got size, strength, fat loss. Not so much with pump spray. I think UR is very finicky about dosage being above a certain threshold because that extra little bit made all the difference

I have had pretty damn good results with UR-Spray. Got size, strength, fat loss. Not so much with pump spray. I think UR is very finicky about dosage being above a certain threshold because that extra little bit made all the difference

What was your dosage? I was doing 50 sprays 2x a day. I immediately noticed more sweat during workouts but also notice the same when I drink liquid carnitine. I ran 5 bottles straight and while I may have lost a little fat, didn't notice any size or strength gain. I don't think the product is a bust but just didn't think enough of it to want to buy more bottles. I was getting 2 weeks to a bottle and at $40 a rip, I just didn't think it was worth it. Perhaps the TAA caps will be worth trying but I also have my doubts. That being said, I'm going to try them when they do become available.

I thought this would be an interesting way to kick things off. Everyone has their favorite 1-2 products (from any era) that they just responded exceptionally well to. Post your products here and we will discuss how and why these products worked so well for you from a scientific standpoint. I have a feeling we will see a lot of consistencies in terms of mechanism of action on a category by category basis.

Creatine and cop. May not be flashy but these blew me away.

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Xenadrine RFA-1 the original formula with Ephedra was my favorite! I lost a ton of fat and had crazy energy! Fat burners just aren't the same anymore! I just can't seem to find a legit ephedra product anymore

What was your dosage? I was doing 50 sprays 2x a day. I immediately noticed more sweat during workouts but also notice the same when I drink liquid carnitine. I ran 5 bottles straight and while I may have lost a little fat, didn't notice any size or strength gain. I don't think the product is a bust but just didn't think enough of it to want to buy more bottles. I was getting 2 weeks to a bottle and at $40 a rip, I just didn't think it was worth it. Perhaps the TAA caps will be worth trying but I also have my doubts. That being said, I'm going to try them when they do become available.

Wasn't counting sprays but I'd cover as much area as I could 2x daily. A bottle would last me 2 weeks as well. I didn't notice any fat loss until about week 3. Strength came about week 2 as did increased pumps. Nothing mind blowing strength wise but a definite noticeable increase. More reps and more weight. Been really wanting to run 8 weeks straight but it hasn't been in stock.

Also, both times I ran it I recall thinking it was a waste fat loss wise and wasn't doing anything for my waist line. Then out of nowhere I would have more visible abs and my muscle separation was much more apparent

I've tried several bottles of Pump Spray and really didn't notice anything but a little better vascularity. I wouldn't buy again. And UR Spray I thought wasn't much better. After going through 5 bottles, I wouldn't buy that again. Also gets expensive when one bottle only last 2 weeks and can be a PITA when you should apply twice a day. Meh. I am a fan of the Pat's other products though, including PN COP.

I concur fully with you comments on Pump Spray and UR Spray. I do like Pat's COP stacked with TCF-2. Add a little creatine and a decent AI and you have one of the best natty stacks on the market.

the original stimulant x...not any of the 'new and improved versions'....the original!!!

now that was a stim!!!

Dude I alpha tested that shyte before they released it. They cut the dose in half based on feedback. I was up almost 27 hours on one dose of that stuff. Wicked strong. LOL

Anyway someone already mentioned it but Syntrax Adipokinetix was the ****. For a reason as most of you probably know. LOL I have a lot of favorites though. Prohormones and prosteroids were game changers obviously. Designer Supplements original Superdrol was crazy.

Sleep aides, stims and pump products are about the only things I can actually notice I'm taking. I have yet to find my perfect sleep aide, but L-Dopa and magnesium seem to work well. I have enjoyed sleep from OG Endosurge and iForce Lights Out.

I wish I could say I've had an amazing experience with a "natural anabolic" or test booster, but I haven't yet. . I've wasted quite a bit of money on nootropics as well.

Sleep aides, stims and pump products are about the only things I can actually notice I'm taking. I have yet to find my perfect sleep aide, but L-Dopa and magnesium seem to work well. I have enjoyed sleep from OG Endosurge and iForce Lights Out.

I wish I could say I've had an amazing experience with a "natural anabolic" or test booster, but I haven't yet. . I've wasted quite a bit of money on nootropics as well.

CM is a great staple - cheap and effective if taken regularly. It is part of my 2-3 times a day BCAA and other things concoction. It does not blow you away, but the long term results and ultra low price - blow me and many others way....

CM is a great staple - cheap and effective if taken regularly. It is part of my 2-3 times a day BCAA and other things concoction. It does not blow you away, but the long term results and ultra low price - blow me and many others way....

First time I took EAS phosphogen (creatine) my bench wench up quite a bit. 40 bucks for 200 grams.

NYC or adipokinetix. Norephedrine was the bomb. Supposedly easier to make meth from so it is gone.

Anabeta elite/Erase Pro - Was very skeptical of anything outside the basic creatine/citrulline/beta alanine supps. Not anymore. Just put together a 24 week run of Prime/anabeta/erase pro. Not all at once though.