Will we actually see IronHide and Ratchet Fight This Time.

Only Bumblebee and Optimus really fought for the Autobots in ROTF. I hope to see the other Autobots actually fight on screen for longer then 10 seconds in Transformers 3. What do you guys think the other Autobots will do?

Well the Twins fought Devastator...kinda. Apart from that, all we got in ROTF was Ratchet shooting, Sideswipe being AWESOME for 10 seconds and then shooting later on, and Ironhide helping to bring down Demolishor. With those exceptions, I actually can't think of too many other examples.

Yeah, we need to see more Autobot fighting in TF3. Like Jazz taking on Brawl and then Megs in TF1.

Nah, it'll be lots of Sam in extreme close-up, Optimus and Bumblebee in the background, and then everything else barely visible in the far distance. With maybe the occasional stream of urine broken up by a gust of fart joke.

Ratchet and Ironhide won't even make it out of alt mode in the next film, much less do anything as interesting as fight.

While it may not have been up to everyones time standards, just about every bot was fighting in the ROTF.

Ironhide was popping off shots during both the end of the forest fight, and during the desert.

Ratchet, is making an effort in shooting at bad bots, so that counts.

The Arcee Triplets had plenty of hits on Sideways.

Sideswipes fight time was all he needed to fil his fight in the movie, I mean, he took down 3 hours worth of fighting and nailed it down to looking hardcore in taking out Sideways. AND, to top it off with "Damn, I'm good."

Ok but when you see Ratchet Firing his gun, you see no one return Fire. I want to see Ironhide firing his cannons and maybe a decepticons dodging and shooting back. and then show Ironhide shooting again. And im pretty sure IronHide has other weapons beside his cannons he needs to use them.

Ok but when you see Ratchet Firing his gun, you see no one return Fire. I want to see Ironhide firing his cannons and maybe a decepticons dodging and shooting back. and then show Ironhide shooting again.

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In other words, you want an actual shootout. Not the comically random mess of the last movie. They really need to get some inspiration from westerns, like how George Lucas was inspired by WWII battles.

In other words, you want an actual shootout. Not the comically random mess of the last movie. They really need to get some inspiration from westerns, like how George Lucas was inspired by WWII battles.

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Oh wow. Westerns. That is a damn good idea, actually. I mean, a film like The Wild Bunch or For a Few Dollars More had some excellent choreography to the gun fights that made you feel the fight itself was progressing in some direction.

In other words, you want an actual shootout. Not the comically random mess of the last movie. They really need to get some inspiration from westerns, like how George Lucas was inspired by WWII battles.

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Given Ironhide's personality in the films it might be cool if they could take a few nods from one of the Clint Eastwood westerns for him. The gun fight flow from the really great westerns might translate into better action for the robots. The robots are larger than life characters so they need larger than life action you get from westerns over the random chaos of some modern war movies.