Took off at 18.25 Hrs. from RAF Snaith joining 733 aircraft to bomb the ball bearing factories - this follows another raid by American B-17's the previous night.

33 Aircraft were lost on this raid which had been split with a 2 hour delay between the first stream and the second, with the majority by the Luftwaffe night fighters hitting the first stream.

Halifax LV778 Shot down at 22.56 hrs by Ofw. Kurt Karsten of Luftbeo Staffel 7/NJG6 following engagement at 6.000 mtrs. over Belstein near Heilbronn. It is thought that Ofw. Karsten survived the war after being injured on the 19/20th October 1944 after running out of fuel and crashing near Sinsheim - he was credited with 8 kills making him an "Ace".

Above right: Fl/Sgt. John Arthur Lloyd Carmichael - photograph discovered in August 2013 by Sandra Colley and original grave marker

Crew grave photographs (courtesy David Franklin - who has provided us with permission to supply any of the relatives with a copy of the original photo at full resolution free of charge) With regret the pilot's grave, P/O. Jackson, was under restoration at the time. Burial details: Crew Initially buried in Beilstein cemetery on 25th February 1944. Removed and re-interred in the British Cemetery at Bad Toelz, Durnbach 1948.

Fl/Sgt. Leslie Noel Atkinson. Durnbach War Cemetery 9.E.21. Son of Noel Furniss Atkinson and Ruby May Atkinson, of Taumarunui, Auckland, New Zealand; husband of Joyce Atkinson, of Moston, Manchester, England. (1) Leslie was born 1914 in Auckland and had been a Bushman before the war. He travelled from his hometown of Taumarunui to the United Kingdom early in the war 1940/1941 with the NZEF (New Zealand Expeditionary Force) Sapper Leslie Noel Atkinson 34429, 15 Forestry Company, New Zealand Engineers. In October 1941 he transferred to the Royal Air Force and two years later transferred to the RNZAF. He had completed part of his training at No 24 OTU and No 10 OTU (Operational Training Unit) and No 1652 HCU (Heavy Conversion Unit) Posted to No 578 Squadron and then to No 51 Squadron. He had completed 460hrs operational flying before being killed on active service. Leslie Noel Atkinson is remembered Waiuku High School. In 1946 a row of 15 totara trees was planted in front of the school. A memorial plaque was placed at the foot of each tree in memory of the eleven past students, one to honour each of the three armed services, and one as a tribute to members of the home services

Fl/Sgt. John Francis Brown. Durnbach War Cemetery 9.E.23. Son of Mr. and Mrs. J. Brown, of Sunderland, Co. Durham, England.

Fl/Sgt. John Arthur Lloyd Carmichael. Durnbach War Cemetery 9.E.28. Son of Arthur Russell Carmichael and Ellen Carmichael, of Tamworth, New South Wales, Australia.

Fl/Sgt. John Cameron Harthill. Durnbach War Cemetery 9.E.24. Son of James Falconer Harthill and Isabella (Bella) Harthill of Stotfield, Lossiemouth, Scotland. His brother James Cameron Harthill also fell. (2) John (Ian) Cameron Harthill was born in Rock House 26 May 1919 in Buckie, Banffshire. John completed part of his education at Elgin Academy after the family moved from Buckie to Lossiemouth. Before enlisting John worked for the Lossiemouth electricity department. His service with the RAF began on 16 February 1940. John completed part of his training at Ground Armament and Gunnery School, No 410 Squadron, No 19 OTU and No 10 OTU (Operational Training Unit) and No 1652 HCU (Heavy Conversion Unit) John was posted to No 51 Squadron 25 July 1943, RAF Snaith, Yorkshire. John (Ian) Cameron Harthill was promoted to Flight Sergeant 21 February 1944

Report of Encountering an Enemy Aircraft

On the 16/17 September 1943 John Cameron Harthill and John Arthur Lloyd Carmichael were part of the crew of Halifax JN899 on an operation to Modan. The aircraft was returning to base when it was attacked by a German JU88 night fighter. Rear Gunner Sgt Harthill and Mid Upper Gunner Sgt Carmichael both opened fire at same time and the JU88 dropped back. It came in for a second time to 400yds when both engines on enemy aircraft burst into flames and then dived steeply into the ground and exploded. No damage was done to own aircraft. Gunnery Leaders Comment: An excellent combat on the part of both Gunners. Good shooting caused certain destruction of enemy aircraft although Rear Gunner was handicapped by the fact his turret had to be rotated manually. A very good show

Left: John (Ian) Harthill Centre: 1947 Bella Harthill visiting Ian's grave for the first time. Right: The cherished flowers taken from his grave in 1947 as they are today in 2016 (courtesy Kate Tame)

John (Ian) Cameron Harthill and brother James (Hamish) Cameron Harthill are remembered on the Lossiemouth War Memorial, Morayshire Scotland

For Pam Bossick, niece of P/O. Rohrer and for all the relatives of this crew.