i'm not worried about cancer from it, i mean i'm not the greatest scientific mind around but something tells me that there cant be too much of a risk, the "waves" are out there bouncing off of everything, my phone is just an antenna and a speaker for converting them into sound, so i should be exposed to the same amount of radiation with or with out the phone.

Exactly. Cell phones have been in heavy use for, what, about 15 years? If there was any significant risk of brain cancer we would have already seen an increase in cases. This fear isn't much different from the 80's when people were afraid to buy microwaves. And yet people think nothing of going out in the sun wearing next to nothing!

"To reach beyond fear and danger we must sharpen and widen our vision. We have to pierce through the deceptions that lull us into a comfortable complacency, to take a straight look down into the depths of our existence, without turning away uneasily or running after distractions." -- Bhikkhu Bodhi

"No man ever steps in the same river twice, for it's not the same river and he's not the same man." -- Heraclitus

My partner is anything but a light sleeper--so no problems for me there! I use a recording of the Burmese bell/gong (downloaded from some Buddhist website) as the alarm ringtone. I like it, reminds me of being on Goenka retreats. But the vibration of the mobile starts before the ringtone comes on. The sound of it vibrating on the bedside table is enough to wake me up--if only to hit the snooze button (again and again....)

My mother is a shift worker. She works varying shifts at all kinds of ungodly hours.

Before she goes to sleep, she says to herself, 'I will wake up at 1am', and she concentrates very hard on it. She's never used an alarm in her life to my knowledge, and she tells me she's accurate, often to the minute. She says it just takes practice.

I know this works because I used to do it myself, back in the days when I still had something resembling a circadian rhythm. If you always go to sleep and wake up at the same time, it becomes an easy habit without an alarm.

Try it!

I'm not very good at right speech, although I try, so please guide and correct me if necessary so I don't make bad kamma for myself and cause others to be annoyed. (=

I actually use a Dawn Simulator which is basically a dimmer on a timer which is programmable to gradually brighten a lamp at a specific time. (I've got it set for 7 AM.) http://www.lighttherapyproducts.com/sun_up.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You wake up naturally when it gets full-bright, no need for beeps and vibes. However, you have to get used to waking up at the same time every day. If you set it to some odd time when you don't usually wake up, you'll probably be waking up late.

joelop wrote:
How do you -who share room with a partner who does not want to be awoken 1h earlier- solve this problem? Is there any device out there for these cases? I've been thinking that an ankle bracelet which vibrates with no sound when the time is right would be a good idea if it's not invented yet

They have vibrating alarm clocks for the deaf. Get one and some ear-plugs.

joelop wrote: I want to start again my morning meditation sessions before doing anything else for the day, the problem is that, if I set up my alarm to get up earlier than usual, I'll wake my partner up who shares my bed.

Ignore what I said above. I wasn't paying very good attention to the original post.

Joelop, if you don't have the resources to do daily sitting meditation, you should not abuse yourself and others for the sake of some formal practice. Getting a vibrating alarm clock might work, or it might also wake your partner up too when your wrist or ankle starts jiggling. You do not have to go to such extreme measures.

Instead, I am sure that there are other moments during the day when you have a quiet space.

Examples:
-When you are showering
-When you are walking out the door and to your car
-When you are in public transportation (bus or train)
-When you are on your lunchbreak
-When you eat dinner
-When you are doing chores, such as dishes, walking the dog, emptying the cat box, etc..

You could do sitting meditation at the end of the day. But even if you don't have the time, then (plus you might be tired?), you can instead seize the moments above as an opportunity to be particularly mindful, to reflect on your immediate surroundings, observe your own mind, and reflect on how your present actions have impacted yourself and others.

Spiny O'Norman wrote:

joelop wrote: I want to start again my morning meditation sessions before doing anything else for the day, the problem is that, if I set up my alarm to get up earlier than usual, I'll wake my partner up who shares my bed.

Convert your partner to Buddhism.

Spiny

What if his partner is a Christian or Muslim? Perhaps they should convert him.

I apologize if I am leading this thread off topic, but I had to post a reply after reading a few remarks. As a previous poster stated, cell phones and any / all radio/elctromagnetic frequency tools should be used very mildly , not only for the case of future "cancers" , but most importantly to persons in this forum because they will disrupt your own bodily in-tunement , be it while just sleeping, or trying to meditate . Microwaves are a whole other story, I am shocked that any Buddhist would even own one.

As to disturbing the spouse, try going to bed a little earlier, and you will wake up a little earlier with no need of an alarm.

timmbuktwo wrote:I apologize if I am leading this thread off topic, but I had to post a reply after reading a few remarks. As a previous poster stated, cell phones and any / all radio/elctromagnetic frequency tools should be used very mildly , not only for the case of future "cancers" , but most importantly to persons in this forum because they will disrupt your own bodily in-tunement , be it while just sleeping, or trying to meditate . Microwaves are a whole other story....

Unsubstantiated new age rubbish. If you are going to make claims like the ones above, kindly support those claims with peer-reviewed scientific evidence.

timmbuktwo wrote:I am shocked that any Buddhist would even own one.

Get over it!

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

I do. The great thing about practicing Buddhism is that, at least for me, given me a highly sensitive BS detector.

timmbuktwo wrote:thank-you for helping me with that .

No problem. I hope that you remember next time to supply supporting evidence for any claim you make here.

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

That is not for you to decide.
As I said, if you wish to make a claim relating to the health or any other negative impacts of mobile telephone radiation, then it is up to you to provide unequivocal scientific evidence that supports those claims.

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

timmbuktwo wrote:If scientific evidence is what you need then I am part of an in-apropriate website that deals with Buddhism.

I suggest you stop your eel-wriggling and produce the evidence.
The Buddha never suggested that anything, including what he taught, should be the object of blind belief.
Where is your evidence of the health and other negative impacts of mobile telephone radiation?

“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

timmbuktwo wrote:If scientific evidence is what you need then I am part of an in-apropriate website that deals with Buddhism.

I suggest you stop your eel-wriggling and produce the evidence.
The Buddha never suggested that anything, including what he taught, should be the object of blind belief.
Where is your evidence of the health and other negative impacts of mobile telephone radiation?

I can help, I have some studies by Dr Magda Havas for both cell phones and wifi routers

On a personal level, I have had CatScans, and when I asked the doctor about the side effect of CT radiation, he said that the side effects normally show up anywhere between 10-30 years down the road. WIFI Routers are only about 10-12 years old, and every year they get stronger and stronger from G to N routers. We will only see the health effects 10-30 years from now. Just as I'm typing this and looking at my Laptops wifi, I can see at least 10 other wifi signals from other routers in homes nearby. Doesn't that scare you in the least bit?