"When you turn the game off, it runs a simulation. When you turn the game on after some time passes, shit happens that you cannot control. Morale drops, people die, supplies get used up a ton. Its fucking retarded, especially after you play it and enjoy it and when you get back the next day BAM 2 people die and your supplies are dwindling"

I was never aware of this, but now that I know, I'm glad they're removing it.

Whoever thought of that needs to be taking out back and shot.

Seriously stupidest idea ever. Games punishing enough without that bullshit.

Logged

"Dem Undead Gits go down just like any 'umies do, just gotta aim for da 'ead.""Dakkadakkadakka""Nothing like the smell of hot plasma in the morning"

Found about the auto dying first hand, logged in and the dude I spent all last night buffing up to replace Marcus was dead and all his gear gone. Awesome.

And the glitch that boned me in my first game is if you grapple a zombie in the Wilkersons house you apparently have the chance to fall through the floor, insta-die and your gear is unrecoverable.

But seriously, fuck this game. Fuck the brain dead AI partners who beg you to hunt with them then just stand there and watch you do all the work. Fuck the endless treading water side quests that make Roman Bellic look positively good by comparison and fuck whoever thought it was a good idea to create a game where you can lose characters, resources and gear when you're not even playing. This is the first XBLA game I seriously regret buying. Hopefully the patch makes it playable.

Found about the auto dying first hand, logged in and the dude I spent all last night buffing up to replace Marcus was dead and all his gear gone. Awesome.

And the glitch that boned me in my first game is if you grapple a zombie in the Wilkersons house you apparently have the chance to fall through the floor, insta-die and your gear is unrecoverable.

But seriously, fuck this game. Fuck the brain dead AI partners who beg you to hunt with them then just stand there and watch you do all the work. Fuck the endless treading water side quests that make Roman Bellic look positively good by comparison and fuck whoever thought it was a good idea to create a game where you can lose characters, resources and gear when you're not even playing. This is the first XBLA game I seriously regret buying. Hopefully the patch makes it playable.

"treading water side quests"wot?

"Fuck the brain dead AI partners who beg you to hunt with them then just stand there and watch you do all the work."Wait what, the only problem I've had with the AI is that they don't like to sneak, other than that they've been extremely helpful with fighting zombies.

"and fuck whoever thought it was a good idea to create a game where you can lose characters, resources and gear when you're not even playing."This isn't the first game to do this, MGS3 did it, they're removing the part of it where characters can die in the patch. Resources and morale are stuff you can easily get back. The dying characters thing is bullshit though, I'm glad I haven't encountered it yet, when I started up all my characters were back up to full health and stuff, and I barely lost any resources or morale.

Sucks you aren't having good luck with the game, I've been having a ton of fun with it so far.

I park my truck, get out. A feral zombie leaps out of the fucking bushes and proceeds to rape me. By the time I knock him down but before I can stand up again four more zombies show up to juggle me around until the feral zombie regains his feet and then proceeds to get his rape on again until I'm torn in half. Total time elapsed between the point the character I thought was the most badass motherfucker to ever kill a zombie leaves his truck to the time he gets raped, gang raped then raped again? About ten seconds.

This is definitely not your fault. Sounds like stunlocking, and players getting stunlocked is nothing but bad game design. And characters dying in a game like that in between play sessions is probably the most retarded thing I've ever heard of in a game. I imagine it's like turning on XCOM to find that your commander rank sniper is now suddenly dead. If patches fix it, you should give me a heads up, because I've had my eye on it for a while, but now there's a pretty good chance I won't be buying it.

It was the best description I could think of for the endless requests to escort people back home, hunt a special zed with them, do a trade etc etc etc. These side quests spawn so quickly I can very rarely clear them all so I can go do a story quest. And if you ignore them you run a very good chance of getting someone killed, usually one of the better playable characters. Even if they donít die or get horrible wounded you take morale hits or even lose resources. I get that community maintenance is part of the game, and in fact I like that you can build different additions to your base as well as care for the survivors. But I would have thought that the relationship quests of GTA IV would serve as a warning to others, not an inspiration. I don't completely dislike these missions, I just think they spawn way too often.

Wait what, the only problem I've had with the AI is that they don't like to sneak, other than that they've been extremely helpful with fighting zombies.

It started out that way. Even unarmed AI would help grapple them so I could get in a killing blow. But after a while they have completely stopped helping at all on hunts. They spectate and thatís it. Iíve made sure everyone has a firearm, ammo and a melee weapon and it still continues. Itís also extended to defending the home base where no one will man the watchtower and nine times out of ten when I get back to home base itís crawling with zombies and everyone is like, ďhey zombies, whatís up?Ē For other mission types itís a complete crapshoot whether or not they will assist with fighting or be completely passive.

This isn't the first game to do this, MGS3 did it, they're removing the part of it where characters can die in the patch. Resources and morale are stuff you can easily get back. The dying characters thing is bullshit though, I'm glad I haven't encountered it yet, when I started up all my characters were back up to full health and stuff, and I barely lost any resources or morale.

Yea but MGS3 had ways around that (the animal cages for instance). Nothing is sacred in this game and in a game that is meant to be about finite resources itís a douche move. Glad to hear that the game hasnít actively screwed you yet, wish I was there with you. I seriously thought this was the best zombie game ever made for probably the first ten hours I was playing it, but as you can probably tell my opinion has soured significantly. Iíll admit that there is a gem of a game buried under these glitches but the lack of QA before launch REALLY shows. (And thatís not a random bitch, the devs have admitted that they had no QA real program.) But my sympathy for an indie dev team only stretches so far and what theyíve basically done is made us pay to be their beta testers which just flat out sucks, hopefully the patch will make this the game what it had the potential to be.

I've read a few reviews since last night, and most of them are pretty positive. They all mention TLO's gripes with the game, but it sounds like how hard he's been boned isn't particularly common.

I'm not really surprised, that's just the sort of luck I have in general. But there are a few who have it worse. I spent part of my morning cruising the bug board on the State of Decay forum and for example there are players who's entire communities are lost and as fast as they recover them they run off and get lost again. This one might be related to the too many infestations thing the patch is supposed to nerf but no one sounds really sure. At least I've dodged THAT bullet so far (fingers crossed). Others have had mass suicides during the sim portion. Welcome back, pretty much everyone is dead! One thing I don't know whether or not the patch will fix is the NPC habit of eating all my fucking twinkies and drinking all my coffee while I'm not playing. I stockpile that shit for a reason guys, the guns and ammo I expect to be used up, but my junk food? You's is cold hearted bastiches. Seriously I need that stuff for cardio grinding and keeping my A players in the field as long as possible. Who the game then promptly kills when I stop playing...

I've read a few reviews since last night, and most of them are pretty positive. They all mention TLO's gripes with the game, but it sounds like how hard he's been boned isn't particularly common.

Some people have a higher tolerance for this stuff than others... I've been able to ignore the bugs and stuff I've encountered so far, I'm still having a lot of fun with it, even with the issues. What I hope to see is a new State of Decay in the future, improved upon, because this game truly has a lot of potential.

EDIT:Omg. Sony just WRECKED Xbox One's ass at their E3 Conference.PS4 supports used games (Xbox one doesn't), so you can sell your games, let friends borrow games, and keep your game (Xbox one is putting heavy restrictions on this), and it doesn't require online checkups (Like the Xbox One does). Also, Xbox One: $499. PS4: $399.

Beat State of Decay last night (with all achievements, whoo-hoo), I plan on posting a relatively in depth overall strategy piece later. Mainly insights on character builds, how to best defend your resources from the twinkie hogs during the sim stage, some tips on how to exploit your base building and some general guidance on dealing with the undead threats. I do plan on replaying it but not until the patch hits.

EDIT: So I started writing a game guide for State of Decay. It kind of got out of hand... Giant post is giant!

I just bought the newest SSX game... And then returned it 3 hours later.

If you like SSX, this game is FUCKING TERRIBLE. They replaced meticulously crafted mountains with "JESUS CHRIST I'M GOING SO FUCKING FAST I NEED TO DODGE THIS TREE OH FUCK I MISSED A JUMP OH WELL IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE TRICKS ONLY EXIST TO MAKE YOU GO FASTER." They replaced spectacular character customization with "You can buy armor that gives you another health bar! (A FUCKING HEALTH BAR IN MY GOD DAMNED FUCKING SSX? FUCK YOU!) You can buy a board that makes you go faster! You can buy this Head Lamp for snowboarding in the dark! You can buy a wingsuit that COMPLETELY ELIMINATES THE POINT OF MASSIVE AIR."

FUCK. YOUR. SHIT. EA.

It actually made me so angry that there's a path of dead grass from my front door to my Jeep.

OH YEAH, and, because I was looking up how to play the game in a way that would be fun, I went to explore mode, which was recommended to me. I wanted to just snowboard down a mountain and see how many points I could get. Turns out that in Free Ride, it doesn't keep track of ANYTHING, because the entire HUD is replaced with what's supposed to be a camera. Just... Ugh.

And when I brought it back to the store, the guy just kept telling me "YOU JUST NEED TO GET USED TO THE CONTROLS, MAN!" No, fuck you, I picked up the controls within the first two runs. I played Tony Hawk's Underground like it was my fucking job, and then I switched to SKATE. You don't tell me to fuck, pal. Don't you ever tell me to fuck.

I just bought the newest SSX game... And then returned it 3 hours later.

If you like SSX, this game is FUCKING TERRIBLE. They replaced meticulously crafted mountains with "JESUS CHRIST I'M GOING SO FUCKING FAST I NEED TO DODGE THIS TREE OH FUCK I MISSED A JUMP OH WELL IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE TRICKS ONLY EXIST TO MAKE YOU GO FASTER." They replaced spectacular character customization with "You can buy armor that gives you another health bar! (A FUCKING HEALTH BAR IN MY GOD DAMNED FUCKING SSX? FUCK YOU!) You can buy a board that makes you go faster! You can buy this Head Lamp for snowboarding in the dark! You can buy a wingsuit that COMPLETELY ELIMINATES THE POINT OF MASSIVE AIR."

FUCK. YOUR. SHIT. EA.

It actually made me so angry that there's a path of dead grass from my front door to my Jeep.

OH YEAH, and, because I was looking up how to play the game in a way that would be fun, I went to explore mode, which was recommended to me. I wanted to just snowboard down a mountain and see how many points I could get. Turns out that in Free Ride, it doesn't keep track of ANYTHING, because the entire HUD is replaced with what's supposed to be a camera. Just... Ugh.

And when I brought it back to the store, the guy just kept telling me "YOU JUST NEED TO GET USED TO THE CONTROLS, MAN!" No, fuck you, I picked up the controls within the first two runs. I played Tony Hawk's Underground like it was my fucking job, and then I switched to SKATE. You don't tell me to fuck, pal. Don't you ever tell me to fuck.

Man, I haven't played an SSX game since the PSOne but it was awesome. Sorry to hear they fucked shit up. Also it's not the register biscuits job to tell you don't know the controls to the game. It's their job to keep you coming back to the store which usually entails not pissing the customer off more than they already are.

Eh, I go into the store a few times a month, and he usually gives me really straightforward reviews of games. Every once in a while we'll have a light-hearted bicker session about a game, but this time he just refused to believe that I hated it because it was hateworthy. Also, if you ever feel like going old school on PS2 or Xbox and want to have your ass blown off from awesomeness, get SSX 3.