As a follow up, I don't know if Carrie is soliciting articles, but I heard through the grapevine she might be. So, Tim, you might consider putting this information together and submitting it. I agree with Peter that it really would be a great Journal article. (Mods, stop me if I'm overstepping). And I know for a fact Coach and Lauren pay people to write their articles. If nothing else, maybe a free T-shirt?

Just out of curiousity, does the MEBB article have more information than the article in Performance Menu vol 1 issue 3 (April 2005)? I have that issue, I'm wondering if my $2.50 will get me more than that article had or if I'd be re-buying something I already own.

I have some questions about laying out a ME/DE template, but before that I want to make sure I've got all the MEBB information I need.

Just out of curiousity, does the MEBB article have more information than the article in Performance Menu vol 1 issue 3 (April 2005)? I have that issue, I'm wondering if my $2.50 will get me more than that article had or if I'd be re-buying something I already own.

I have some questions about laying out a ME/DE template, but before that I want to make sure I've got all the MEBB information I need.

The meat of the Black Box is in the issue you have, ME Blackbox Part I. The micro/meso/macro cycle that I reference is from Part I, also called "XYZ" Blackbox. The four part article linked above has additional templates for athletes and masters, also a five day rotation template, 5x5/5x3/5x1 days, and a case study.

The meat of the Black Box is in the issue you have, ME Blackbox Part I. The micro/meso/macro cycle that I reference is from Part I, also called "XYZ" Blackbox. The four part article linked above has additional templates for athletes and masters, also a five day rotation template, 5x5/5x3/5x1 days, and a case study.

Here's my preliminary layout. I'm not trying to hijack your thread. But I figure if I lay out what I'm thinking of you can both help me out and figure out how to head off these kind of questions in your article.

My concern laying out a schedule was how to mix in ME and DE work on a single exercise, but still be able to repeat that exercise often enough to make and build on gains. I'm thinking of a split of exercises that's basically legs or full-body/push/pull:

My thought is that I should do whatever exercise I do for ME the same week for DE, rotating exercises for each week. So if week one is Deadlifting, I do an ME day Monday, DE Thursday, at 5-5-5-3-3-3 the first time it comes up, 3-3-3-1-1-1 the next time it comes up, the difference between ME and DE being the weight and thus bar speed. The problem is the number of exercises...if I do, say, Deadlifts, Shoulder Press, and Weighted Chinups, each will be 3 weeks apart from the previous cycle, and after 2 cycles (5-5-5-3-3-3 and 3-3-3-1-1-1) I'll change exercises and not DL, SP, or do WCs for 6 weeks. That seems like a long layoff - I'd do a total of 2 ME and 2 DE days per exercise in a 6 week period, and then not do that exercise again for 6 week cycle. That's really the snag that hit me when I first tried to lay out a ME/DE mix in the first place. I've got a restricted schedule, I wasn't sure how to mix it all in there productively.

Peter, I'll take a closer look tomorrow when I'm more awake, but here's my quick take on it.

I would recommend trying to weight train Mon/Weds/Fri, but sticking to your parameters I would either do:

Yeah, M/W/Fri is just too hard to manage, too few weights and too many people using them. I've managed to stake out Monday and Thursday by virtue of seniority, precedent, and showing up before anyone else. Wed/Fri the weights are in use when I can go.

Thanks for the two breakdowns. I may change the exercises a little, or swap them to Monday Push/Pull and Thursday Squat/Legs because of time factors, but it is tremendously helpful to have a concrete set of suggestions to work from. Thank you.