Kiss Me, I’m Amish Irish

By Paul Lukas, on March 18th, 2008

So last night Kirsten and I are walking to the IFC Center in Manhattan (to see this), and there’s this guy standing there on the sidewalk, wearing one of those cheapo green molded-plastic “Irish” hats, waving his arms, and yelling, “Three-dollar beers! Cheap beer! Three-dollar beers!”

Ah, St. Paddy’s Day in New York — what a total frat party from hell charming ritual. I wore green, naturally. The fact that I also wear green on many — indeed, most — of the other 364 days of the year is of little consequence, for March 17th is a day when we can all embrace our inner drunk Irishman, a day when the world’s most deliciously verdant hue is in gratifyingly ample supply. And nowhere was this more true yesterday than at a few gazillion genuinely awful New York bars in the world of uniforms.

(And yes, smart guy, I realize there are actually 365 non-St. Paddy’s Day days this year, but that just wouldn’t have sounded right in a sentence, y’know?)

Herewith, a survey of the day’s emerald events:

• In San Antonio, the Celtics broke out their green-and-golds again. I refuse to believe Sam Cassell is truly Irish until the DNA tests come back, but it’s still a good look, no? After the game, Paul Pierce treated everyone to a Shamrock Shake at Mickey D’s.

• The Knicks’ St. Paddy’s day uni has always struck me as a bit odd. One the one hand, I love green and orange as a color combo. But it’s an autumnal color combo, and it just doesn’t feel right as we’re moving into spring (except maybe on David Lee, what with his red hair and all). Let’s just blame it on Isiah, like everything else, and go back to the drawing board.

• Did you know that Toronto has a big Irish population? Neither did anyone in Salt Lake City, until the Raptors showed up dressed like this (additional views here and here). And look, they even had celtic dancers on hand, or at least that’s what the AP caption says. I think it’s actually all the wives from Big Love.

• I believe only two teams went with green jerseys: the Phillies and Twins. And after seeing them, the lazy route is looking better all the time, no?

And lest we forget, one team made a very special St. Patrick’s Day gesture: Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the — uh, see for yourself (additional jaw-dropping views here and here).

Uni Watch News Ticker: Tommy Lasorda must’ve read yesterday’s post. He switched to stirrups! ”¦ Really interesting little piece here about how Govs. Spitzer and McGreevey and their respective wives wore virtually identical “uniforms” when announcing their resignations. ”¦ Bill Turianski has created the latest in his series of sports maps, this one showing the location of the NCAA Tournament teams. ”¦ Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: A bunch of new pics from the upcoming George Clooney flick Leatherheads have hit the web, and goddamn do those uniforms look sweet (additional pics here, here, here, here, and here). And check out the refs. ”¦ “I went to the SPHL game between the Huntsville (Alabama) Havoc and the Columbus (Georgia) Cottonmouths on Saturday night and took along my camera to snap some shots of the Havoc’s St. Paddy’s Day uni,” writes Zack Bennett). “Instead, I found Columbus wearing one of the more unique number fonts I’ve ever seen [additional examples here and here].” I think we should get all animal-named teams to go this route — imagine the Dolphins wearing dolphin-patterned numbers. ”¦ Cleveland news from Vince, who says a local radio station is reporting that the Browns will wear white helmets for one game next season, to honor the 1946-49 squads that won the AAFC championship four years in a row. No comment yet from the team. ”¦ Mark Milner sent along some pics of a few vintage curling sweaters and jackets, as seen hereand here. ”¦ Looks like Curtis Granderson was wearing navy tights over black socks the other day (good spot by Christian Bitto). ”¦ MLB umpire Rob Drake has a blog, and this recent entry includes some info on the umps’ uniforms (nice find by David Arnott). ”¦ Reprinted from last night’s comments: Great photo here of Saginaw High in Michigan (here’s the rear view). Now they just need a seven-footer and Spud Webb to complete the effect. ”¦ Would someone please buy this man a regular cap? ”¦ Jesus, just shoot me now and get it over with.

136 comments to Kiss Me, I’m Amish Irish

Jason Axel|
March 18, 2008 at 7:16 am |

i love those celtic gold and green uni’s! Also, I think it should be a league wide NBA rule for everyone playing on St. Patty’s Day to wear green just to give us more to talk about with all the monstrocities that would ensue.

Peter Wunsch|
March 18, 2008 at 7:17 am |

Eliot Spitzer’s lapel pin is half American flag, half New York State flag.

Joe|
March 18, 2008 at 7:21 am |

The Knicks’ St. Pat’s jerseys contain orange because that is a major color of the Irish flag (and has major symbolism for the Protestant faith in Ireland).

Cleveland news from Vince, who says a local radio station is reporting that the Browns will wear white helmets for one game next season, to honor the 1946-49 squads that won the AAFC championship four years in a row. No comment yet from the team.

Will they be wearing Chuck Taylors as well?

Zack Bennett|
March 18, 2008 at 7:36 am |

Thanks for posting my pics, Paul!

DW|
March 18, 2008 at 7:43 am |

Would someone please buy this man a regular cap?
L.P. Berra looks OK in any cap. Glad he’s still with us.

diz|
March 18, 2008 at 7:54 am |

[quote comment=”239987″]The Knicks’ St. Pat’s jerseys contain orange because that is a major color of the Irish flag (and has major symbolism for the Protestant faith in Ireland).

[quote comment=”239998″][quote comment=”239987″]The Knicks’ St. Pat’s jerseys contain orange because that is a major color of the Irish flag (and has major symbolism for the Protestant faith in Ireland).

http://www.thebards.net/music/lyrics/The_Orange_And_Green.shtml“>Orange and the Green[/quote]
I thought it was to keep the design consistent. You know, same template as usual, but predominantly blue green.[/quote]
Strike out the blue, natch.
Anyway, Mr. Lukas, a personal question, if you don’t mind: who’s Kirsten?

[quote comment=”240002″]The Bulls would look way nicer if they used Red instead of the Black.[/quote]

Too Christmasy, and that’s coming from a guy that loves the Bucks unis. But I have to admit, the green Bulls uni’s are one of my favorite uni’s ever. Seriously I love the whole thing, black and all, black is one of their colors, don’t cha know. Maybe it’s because I love Boston’s regular uni’s so much, or because green is my favorite color. That being said, Boston fans should be crossing their fingers that they’d adopt the green/gold look for good, just awesome.

Mike|
March 18, 2008 at 8:10 am |

[quote comment=”239998″][quote comment=”239987″]The Knicks’ St. Pat’s jerseys contain orange because that is a major color of the Irish flag (and has major symbolism for the Protestant faith in Ireland).

Ah, yeh. This way players keep the same shoes and keep the orange there. One pic had someone with the blue and orange as well.

With all the marketing the Red Sox do with the green apparel it seems odd they did not wear it yesterday.

Walaitis|
March 18, 2008 at 8:12 am |

Paul –

I received a book a while back (Cubs Journal – Year by Year & Day by Day with the Chicago Cubs Since 1876) by John Snyder. I believe this is one in a series of similar books about the histories of MLB teams. I was reading through it this to help get in a baseball state of mind, and realized there are two significant areas of interest to Uniwatch readers. One, of course, are the enormous number of uniform images (note, all in black and white). One of the things I noticed: It doesn’t look like the Cubs started up the “long standing tradition” of pinstripes until 1959!

Another area of interest are the different team names that were used (it was explained early in the book that in the early years of baseball, teams didn’t have names. You just had “Chicago” play “Boston”. The newspapers of the day would provide nicknames based on the personality of the team). What I found to be some of the more interesting names connected to the team:

– White Stockings (and eventually: White Sox!) 1876-87, because of the color of … well … their socks.

– Orphans 1898-1901, because Cap Anson was fired after 19 seasons as player-manager, and the players lost their “Pop”.

– Nationals 1905-07, just because of the league they played in.

No, I’m not connected to the book in any way shape of form (other than owning a copy), so I don’t want to sound like I’m advertising for them, but it is a bit of a must read for Cub fans (and other versions for other team fans)! One thing … it was written at the end of the 2004 season, so you don’t get any details beyond that (at least in the edition I received), but since there haven’t been any uniform changes since then, who cares!!!!

LI Phil|
March 18, 2008 at 8:17 am |

[quote comment=”239985″]Eliot Spitzer’s lapel pin is half American flag, half New York State flag.[/quote]

he’s also wearing the standard-issue crooks brothers red-white-blue rep (which i’ll bet is mentioned in the referenced article, and which i did not read)…say what you will about the ex-gov…but his trademark starched white shirts (all he wears) and perfectly matched suits/ties mean his public life was one of perfect sartorial splendor

I work for the Cottonmouths during game days and I love the fact they went back to the snake numbers this year after leaving them for the past 3-4 seasons. The one thing I don’t like is how the 1 turned out on the jersey. If you look at this pic again the guy second from the right is number 21 Ryan Rutz but looks like number 27. To compare the 7 look at the guy third from left (to the right of Dan Leslie and right in front the coach Jerome Bechard) Mark Prentice who is number 37.

Thanks for posting the link to Rob Drake’s blog. Very cool read. I’ve always found umpires nearly as interesting as players.

For the record, my favorites growing up were Dutch Rennert and Eric Gregg.

I even have my own NL umpire’s cap.

Yes, I’m a baseball cap nerd.

Hank|
March 18, 2008 at 8:53 am |

Lasorda in stirrups. I beleive he is wearing them in yesterday’s photo. If you look closely at his right foot toward the heel, you can see a small patch of white which is not part of the golf cart. In that photo, he is wearing those extreme high tops that are blocking the stocking, but in today’s photo, he is wearing traditional low cuts.

Stuby|
March 18, 2008 at 8:57 am |

[quote comment=”239992″]Thanks for posting my pics, Paul![/quote]
Zack, do you live in Huntsville?

Okay, I’ve been trying to find photo evidence of this for awhile and finally have. A friend of mine got his hands on some misspelled shirts from a UCLA basketball camp. They are freakin awesome, especially if you’re a fan of the Milwaukee Beers:

“I’m less fond of the Bulls’ jade attire, mainly because the black trim reminds me too much of those annoying Celtics alternates (which they should just ditch in favor of the green-and-golds, am I right?).”

You are correct. The Celtics should learn green and black don’t match, just as the Mets should learn royal blue and black don’t match.

Matt B|
March 18, 2008 at 9:13 am |

Green is “the world’s most deliciously verdant hue.” You don’t say!

Eddie Jay|
March 18, 2008 at 9:14 am |

Interestingly tho, it seems like the twins green jersey was a regular button up jersey (maybe mesh), but the Phillies was the current spring training jersey in green (As you can tell with he white side panels and its not button up). I always like the phillies doin it, theys hould never stop.

Stuby|
March 18, 2008 at 9:14 am |

[quote comment=”240014″]Lasorda in stirrups. I beleive he is wearing them in yesterday’s photo. If you look closely at his right foot toward the heel, you can see a small patch of white which is not part of the golf cart. In that photo, he is wearing those extreme high tops that are blocking the stocking, but in today’s photo, he is wearing traditional low cuts.[/quote]
Kinda hard to tell in that first shot because Tommy’s “cankles” .

[quote comment=”240020″][quote comment=”240014″]Lasorda in stirrups. I beleive he is wearing them in yesterday’s photo. If you look closely at his right foot toward the heel, you can see a small patch of white which is not part of the golf cart. In that photo, he is wearing those extreme high tops that are blocking the stocking, but in today’s photo, he is wearing traditional low cuts.[/quote]
Kinda hard to tell in that first shot because Tommy’s “cankles” .[/quote]

I am very disappointed. Yesterday, his Nike 5-Tool PE’s were outstanding. A serious downgrade!

Dane|
March 18, 2008 at 9:32 am |

[quote comment=”240022″]
2. There has to be an outsatnding caption for this pic somewhere. My guess is in LI.[/quote]

Alright, guys. This “Freeze Tag” game isn’t funny anymore!

LI Phil|
March 18, 2008 at 9:33 am |

[quote comment=”240017″]”I’m less fond of the Bulls’ jade attire, mainly because the black trim reminds me too much of those annoying Celtics alternates (which they should just ditch in favor of the green-and-golds, am I right?).”

You are correct. The Celtics should learn green and black don’t match, just as the Mets should learn royal blue and black don’t match.[/quote]

but…i gotta admit…this is growing on me a little…only problem is it reminds me of this…which i DON’T like (that should look like this or even better this ting of beauty

Mets/Jets Fan in Chicagoland|
March 18, 2008 at 9:36 am |

[quote comment=”240022″]1. The Celtics Unis are great.
2. There has to be an outsatnding caption for this pic somewhere. My guess is in LI.[/quote]
“…you put your left leg in and you shake it all about….you do the Hokey Pokey…..”

Sorry…someone was going to say it today so I just got it out of the way.[/quote]

Too Funny!

The NOR|
March 18, 2008 at 9:44 am |

I don’t frequent the comments section much so I apologize if I’m beating a dead horse. Last night while watching some Arena football, I couldn’t help but notice that Schutt is a major sponsor, so much so, that palyers wearing Ridell Revolution Helmets, had Schutt nose bumper stickers and rear neck stickers, saying “Schutt”.

I found that interesting because in the NFL Schutt players get the team logo, not the other manufacturers logo.

[quote comment=”240028″][quote comment=”240020″][quote comment=”240014″]Lasorda in stirrups. I beleive he is wearing them in yesterday’s photo. If you look closely at his right foot toward the heel, you can see a small patch of white which is not part of the golf cart. In that photo, he is wearing those extreme high tops that are blocking the stocking, but in today’s photo, he is wearing traditional low cuts.[/quote]
Kinda hard to tell in that first shot because Tommy’s “cankles” .[/quote]

I am very disappointed. Yesterday, his Nike 5-Tool PE’s were outstanding. A serious downgrade![/quote]

I was at the Dodgers game yesterday and when Tommy drove by me in his golf cart outside the stadium the first thing I did was look at his socks…god I’m obsessed. I agree that he could have been wearing stirrups the day before because he shows very little sock.

He gave a nice speech before the game which was the last at Dodgertown for the boys in blue…a shame.

[quote comment=”240006″][quote comment=”239985″]Eliot Spitzer’s lapel pin is half American flag, half New York State flag.[/quote]

he’s also wearing the standard-issue crooks brothers red-white-blue rep (which i’ll bet is mentioned in the referenced article, and which i did not read)…say what you will about the ex-gov…but his trademark starched white shirts (all he wears) and perfectly matched suits/ties mean his public life was one of perfect sartorial splendor

his future dress will not be so colorful…but at least it will match[/quote]

Phil there is no way he’s wearing a orange jumpers… rich people don’t go to jail.

Jeff Scott|
March 18, 2008 at 9:52 am |

“I believe only two teams went with green jerseys: the Phillies and Twins.”

I can’t find a photo anywhere, but according to Derrick Goold’s St. Louis Post-Dispatch blog yesterday, “Green jerseys and hats are hanging at each locker in the [Cardinals] clubhouse.”

Anyone have photos of the Cardinals game yesterday to prove they actually wore the green jerseys?

John T|
March 18, 2008 at 9:59 am |

forget the gren unis, the knicks ugly unis (IMO) and lets remember the Spirit of St. Patricks day.

[quote comment=”240038″][quote comment=”240006″][quote comment=”239985″]Eliot Spitzer’s lapel pin is half American flag, half New York State flag.[/quote]

he’s also wearing the standard-issue crooks brothers red-white-blue rep (which i’ll bet is mentioned in the referenced article, and which i did not read)…say what you will about the ex-gov…but his trademark starched white shirts (all he wears) and perfectly matched suits/ties mean his public life was one of perfect sartorial splendor

his future dress will not be so colorful…but at least it will match[/quote]

Phil there is no way he’s wearing a orange jumpers… rich people don’t go to jail.[/quote]

while im inclined to agree, the sheriff of wall street has pissed off a LOT of people…people who would appreciate payback…big time

im just oozing schadenfreude, i realize…but as they say, ‘it couldn’t happen to a nicer guy’

id give odds he does at least some time

Lexie|
March 18, 2008 at 10:02 am |

Last night I was watching the Jazz/Raptor game and I noticed that TJ Ford didn’t have the Raptor claw on the back of his jersey like everyone else. Sorry I can’t find photographic proof. Anyone have a shot of it?

The Ol Goaler|
March 18, 2008 at 10:05 am |

[quote comment=”240039″]“I believe only two teams went with green jerseys: the Phillies and Twins.”

I can’t find a photo anywhere, but according to Derrick Goold’s St. Louis Post-Dispatch blog yesterday, “Green jerseys and hats are hanging at each locker in the [Cardinals] clubhouse.”

Anyone have photos of the Cardinals game yesterday to prove they actually wore the green jerseys?[/quote]
A-HA! After a little more searching, I found this from the Cards/Braves ST game.

That’ll be the only time you see the Birds wearing the “BP template” for a game… they use their regular-season unis the rest of the time (with the exception of wearing their red caps and batting helmets both at home and on the road.)

And look, they even had celtic dancers on hand, or at least that’s what the AP caption says. I think it’s actually all the wives from Big Love.
the caption was off a little bit. those would be Irish dancers, as opposed to Scottish dancers.

Nate|
March 18, 2008 at 10:22 am |

And I do hope that Y’all know that “Celtic” is pronounced “Keltic” with a hard C. The Boston “Seltics” have it all wrong.

[quote comment=”240052″]And I do hope that Y’all know that “Celtic” is pronounced “Keltic” with a hard C. The Boston “Seltics” have it all wrong.[/quote]

What about Celtic FC? They’ve been around since the 1800s.

Nate|
March 18, 2008 at 10:57 am |

[quote comment=”240060″][quote comment=”240052″]And I do hope that Y’all know that “Celtic” is pronounced “Keltic” with a hard C. The Boston “Seltics” have it all wrong.[/quote]

What about Celtic FC? They’ve been around since the 1800s.[/quote]
They pronouce it “Seltic”? I didn’t know that….

John T|
March 18, 2008 at 11:02 am |

[quote comment=”240062″][quote comment=”240060″][quote comment=”240052″]And I do hope that Y’all know that “Celtic” is pronounced “Keltic” with a hard C. The Boston “Seltics” have it all wrong.[/quote]

What about Celtic FC? They’ve been around since the 1800s.[/quote]
They pronouce it “Seltic”? I didn’t know that….[/quote]

Most sport teams prefer the ‘S’ sound as it is easier on the ears and for new fans (how come it does not begin with a ‘K’?)

John T|
March 18, 2008 at 11:05 am |

[quote comment=”240063″][quote comment=”240062″][quote comment=”240060″][quote comment=”240052″]And I do hope that Y’all know that “Celtic” is pronounced “Keltic” with a hard C. The Boston “Seltics” have it all wrong.[/quote]

What about Celtic FC? They’ve been around since the 1800s.[/quote]
They pronouce it “Seltic”? I didn’t know that….[/quote]

Most sport teams prefer the ‘S’ sound as it is easier on the ears and for new fans (how come it does not begin with a ‘K’?)[/quote]

I also meant to say that neither is wrong, just a different pronunciation.

LouUmp|
March 18, 2008 at 11:17 am |

The Rob Drake blog mentions that – finally – MLB now provides spare unis/equipment for the umps in case of delivery malfunction…wonder if they made a deal with Gerry Davis?

As a softball ump for almost 20 years, it is amazing the change in umpire equipment sales: when I started, you could only buy gear from the Amateur Softball Association, or maybe a few sporting goods stores. NOW there literally dozens of websites/stores that cater to sports officials exclusively. The quality of the gear has improved, also – no more stuff that was just redone catcher’s gear! I help train our new high school umps every year, and we tell them that to be properly equipped will cost them about $500 TO START! Loses us at least one or two candidates each year…

LJ K|
March 18, 2008 at 11:27 am |

[quote comment=”240022″]1. The Celtics Unis are great.
2. There has to be an outsatnding caption for this pic somewhere. My guess is in LI.[/quote]

Gotta say that I like the Knicks’ green-and-orange alts. It doesn’t seem particularly “autumnal” to me, though — at least, no more than any other color combination. As long as the orange isn’t the dominant color, that combo just always works for me.

But that’s probably because it’s the color combo of my alma mater (and current employer), the University of La Verne. Sadly, though, someone over in the athletics department must not be a big fan of orange, though, since it’s been slowly disappearing from the various unis for a a couple years now.

The basketball teams are now left with a sadly generic green-and-white kit: road and home. Soccer and volleyball still have some orange highlights that work. And you’ve gotta love how the baseball team rocks the striped stirrups. (But softball? Eh, not so much.)

j10|
March 18, 2008 at 11:34 am |

LouUmp
I’m just getting into umpiring. I think $500 is a very conservative number, unless you already have some equipment (helmet and shin guards, etc). I think I spent over $800, and did not spend that much. I heard in our annual meeting that college umpires are now being required to wear navy shirts. Very interesting, especially with all of the shirt combinations out there.

Hopefully this works. The UIF Sioux Falls Storm with their St. Patricks Day uniforms.

E_Ro|
March 18, 2008 at 11:38 am |

Re: the Saginaw High Basketball uniforms…

I’m from Saginaw, and every time i’ve seen them in the paper, I thought “i bet uniwatch would get a kick out of them”

TLan|
March 18, 2008 at 11:46 am |

The Yankees are playing at Virginia Tech tomorrow. To commemorate the occasion the VT bookstore is offering these special hats.

AL|
March 18, 2008 at 11:50 am |

[quote comment=”239997″][quote comment=”239987″]The Knicks’ St. Pat’s jerseys contain orange because that is a major color of the Irish flag (and has major symbolism for the Protestant faith in Ireland).

Interesting. I am no trademark expert, but it doesn’t seem like an “Obama” shirt in the Padres colors and using the Padres’ font would be a problem, so long as no logos or the like were used.

I suspect that the proprietor of the site did not have the money to fight MLB on the issue, and therefore decided not to push it.

Jeffrey|
March 18, 2008 at 12:01 pm |

[quote comment=”240015″][quote comment=”239992″]Thanks for posting my pics, Paul![/quote]
Zack, do you live in Huntsville?[/quote]

I do…could there really be three huntsville, ala. uniwatchers on here?

John T|
March 18, 2008 at 12:01 pm |

As we all know, PL has no love for the color purple, I have always wondered where this came from, well after some extensive research, I think I found the moment in time. I warn all those with any sense of taste or fashion to steer clear of this linkEspo & the Rockers

and for those sad souls who deem torture necessary please click here (I haven’t been the same since….)

Interesting. I am no trademark expert, but it doesn’t seem like an “Obama” shirt in the Padres colors and using the Padres’ font would be a problem, so long as no logos or the like were used.

I suspect that the proprietor of the site did not have the money to fight MLB on the issue, and therefore decided not to push it.[/quote]

Just the fact that you referred to the “Padres” Obama shirts is why it is a violation. Everybody here knows why they like the shirts. A navy blue shirt with Obama in non-descript lettering won’t make you buy it. Do it with “Red Sox lettering” and we all want one. Whether we like it or not, such usage is protected under the law.

Zack Bennett|
March 18, 2008 at 12:10 pm |

[quote comment=”240015″][quote comment=”239992″]Thanks for posting my pics, Paul![/quote]
Zack, do you live in Huntsville?[/quote]
I live in Athens, about 15 miles west of Huntsville.

[quote comment=”240080″][quote comment=”240015″][quote comment=”239992″]Thanks for posting my pics, Paul![/quote]
Zack, do you live in Huntsville?[/quote]

I do…could there really be three huntsville, ala. uniwatchers on here?[/quote]

Additional coincidence: As you can see up at the top of today’s entry, last night I saw the film Sputnik Mania, which makes prominent mention of Wernher von Braun, whose rocketry team was headquartered in Hunstville.

[quote comment=”240035″][quote comment=”240028″][quote comment=”240020″][quote comment=”240014″]Lasorda in stirrups. I beleive he is wearing them in yesterday’s photo. If you look closely at his right foot toward the heel, you can see a small patch of white which is not part of the golf cart. In that photo, he is wearing those extreme high tops that are blocking the stocking, but in today’s photo, he is wearing traditional low cuts.[/quote]
Kinda hard to tell in that first shot because Tommy’s “cankles” .[/quote]

I am very disappointed. Yesterday, his Nike 5-Tool PE’s were outstanding. A serious downgrade![/quote]

I was at the Dodgers game yesterday and when Tommy drove by me in his golf cart outside the stadium the first thing I did was look at his socks…god I’m obsessed. I agree that he could have been wearing stirrups the day before because he shows very little sock.

He gave a nice speech before the game which was the last at Dodgertown for the boys in blue…a shame.[/quote]

Agreed.

And speaking of speeches Paul — and in keeping with mid-March traditions — know that at least one of us caught your Ides of March reference yesterday re: Lasorda (“Et tu, Tommy?”).

“We have come to bury non-stirrup wearers, not see them praised!”

Jeffrey|
March 18, 2008 at 12:24 pm |

[quote comment=”240085″][quote comment=”240080″][quote comment=”240015″][quote comment=”239992″]Thanks for posting my pics, Paul![/quote]
Zack, do you live in Huntsville?[/quote]

I do…could there really be three huntsville, ala. uniwatchers on here?[/quote]

Additional coincidence: As you can see up at the top of today’s entry, last night I saw the film Sputnik Mania, which makes prominent mention of Wernher von Braun, whose rocketry team was headquartered in Hunstville.

Good article Paul…thanks for sharing. So since there are three of us…you will come join us right? a uniwatch gathering is in the near future in the rocket city?

trevor|
March 18, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

Anyone else blinded by the glare of the lights off of all of those empty seats in the pics of the Celtics/pacers game? Seriously, both teams could have shaken the hand of every fan at the game in about ten minutes. Course, this isn’t at all unusual, most NBA/NHL games have acres of empty seats. I think both leagues have a majority of teams in serious financial trouble.

LI Phil|
March 18, 2008 at 12:33 pm |

[quote comment=”240083″]Just the fact that you referred to the “Padres” Obama shirts is why it is a violation. Everybody here knows why they like the shirts. A navy blue shirt with Obama in non-descript lettering won’t make you buy it. Do it with “Red Sox lettering” and we all want one. Whether we like it or not, such usage is protected under the law.[/quote]

yeah…um…speak for yourself, larry ;)

lwiedy|
March 18, 2008 at 12:37 pm |

[quote comment=”240100″][quote comment=”240083″]Just the fact that you referred to the “Padres” Obama shirts is why it is a violation. Everybody here knows why they like the shirts. A navy blue shirt with Obama in non-descript lettering won’t make you buy it. Do it with “Red Sox lettering” and we all want one. Whether we like it or not, such usage is protected under the law.[/quote]

[quote comment=”240093″][quote comment=”240035″][quote comment=”240028″][quote comment=”240020″][quote comment=”240014″]Lasorda in stirrups. I beleive he is wearing them in yesterday’s photo. If you look closely at his right foot toward the heel, you can see a small patch of white which is not part of the golf cart. In that photo, he is wearing those extreme high tops that are blocking the stocking, but in today’s photo, he is wearing traditional low cuts.[/quote]
Kinda hard to tell in that first shot because Tommy’s “cankles” .[/quote]

I am very disappointed. Yesterday, his Nike 5-Tool PE’s were outstanding. A serious downgrade![/quote]

I was at the Dodgers game yesterday and when Tommy drove by me in his golf cart outside the stadium the first thing I did was look at his socks…god I’m obsessed. I agree that he could have been wearing stirrups the day before because he shows very little sock.

He gave a nice speech before the game which was the last at Dodgertown for the boys in blue…a shame.[/quote]

Agreed.

And speaking of speeches Paul — and in keeping with mid-March traditions — know that at least one of us caught your Ides of March reference yesterday re: Lasorda (“Et tu, Tommy?”).

“We have come to bury non-stirrup wearers, not see them praised!”[/quote]

Considering that we’re in the middle of March, wouldn’t a quote from MacBeth have been more appropriate?

And as far as the Yanks at VaTech is concerned, I posted pics of these shirts and caps that I found at my local mall on Sunday.

Oops, I mixed up the Ides and those bubble, bubble, toil and trouble witches!

My professors are burning as we speak!

I’ll go sit in the corner of my purple house now!

lwiedy|
March 18, 2008 at 12:42 pm |

[quote comment=”240106″][quote comment=”240093″][quote comment=”240035″][quote comment=”240028″][quote comment=”240020″][quote comment=”240014″]Lasorda in stirrups. I beleive he is wearing them in yesterday’s photo. If you look closely at his right foot toward the heel, you can see a small patch of white which is not part of the golf cart. In that photo, he is wearing those extreme high tops that are blocking the stocking, but in today’s photo, he is wearing traditional low cuts.[/quote]
Kinda hard to tell in that first shot because Tommy’s “cankles” .[/quote]

I am very disappointed. Yesterday, his Nike 5-Tool PE’s were outstanding. A serious downgrade![/quote]

I was at the Dodgers game yesterday and when Tommy drove by me in his golf cart outside the stadium the first thing I did was look at his socks…god I’m obsessed. I agree that he could have been wearing stirrups the day before because he shows very little sock.

He gave a nice speech before the game which was the last at Dodgertown for the boys in blue…a shame.[/quote]

Agreed.

And speaking of speeches Paul — and in keeping with mid-March traditions — know that at least one of us caught your Ides of March reference yesterday re: Lasorda (“Et tu, Tommy?”).

“We have come to bury non-stirrup wearers, not see them praised!”[/quote]

Considering that we’re in the middle of March, wouldn’t a quote from MacBeth have been more appropriate?

And as far as the Yanks at VaTech is concerned, I posted pics of these shirts and caps that I found at my local mall on Sunday.[/quote]

How’s an altered quote by Iago of Othello, for pennance, “I will not wear my ASG patch on my sleeve for daws to peck at”.

LouUmp|
March 18, 2008 at 12:44 pm |

[quote comment=”240070″]LouUmp
I’m just getting into umpiring. I think $500 is a very conservative number, unless you already have some equipment (helmet and shin guards, etc). I think I spent over $800, and did not spend that much. I heard in our annual meeting that college umpires are now being required to wear navy shirts. Very interesting, especially with all of the shirt combinations out there.[/quote]

These are the combinations you can wear as an ASA umpire: the traditional (for softball)powder blue knit pullover with dark navy blue trousers, dark navy blue top with heather grey trousers, and powder blue top/heather grey trousers. You CAN wear dark/dark – but who wants to? Our local association has opted to wear the powder blue/grey combination – it is simply cooler, and the grey pants do not show the shirt as bad. Also because we work many PONY tournaments, and PONY requires the grey.

[…] Paul Lukas wrote a fantastic post today on “Kiss Me, Iâ€™m Amish Irish”Here’s ONLY a quick extractCheap beer! Three-dollar beers!” Ah, St. Paddy’s Day in New York – what a total frat party from hell charming ritual. I wore green, naturally. The fact that I also wear green on many – indeed, most – of the other 364 days of the year … […]

Interesting. I am no trademark expert, but it doesn’t seem like an “Obama” shirt in the Padres colors and using the Padres’ font would be a problem, so long as no logos or the like were used.

I suspect that the proprietor of the site did not have the money to fight MLB on the issue, and therefore decided not to push it.[/quote]

Just the fact that you referred to the “Padres” Obama shirts is why it is a violation. Everybody here knows why they like the shirts. A navy blue shirt with Obama in non-descript lettering won’t make you buy it. Do it with “Red Sox lettering” and we all want one. Whether we like it or not, such usage is protected under the law.[/quote]

Do you know this with certainty, or is this simply your thinking on the matter? I find the issue most intriguing, and if you or someone else can cite to any authorities on the subject, I would like to read them.

Do these teams own the trademark to the fonts, such that no one can use the font for any reason? Or are the fonts protected only in conjunction with the team colors? Or are the fonts not protected at all?

Robert|
March 18, 2008 at 1:30 pm |

It would have been nice if The Smoking Gun article had a link to the cease-and-desist letter from MLB, to see whether it cited any authority in support of its position.

I LOVE the new batting practice caps. Any *NEW* designs are better than OLD designs.

j10|
March 18, 2008 at 2:26 pm |

LouUmp
I’m getting into baseball.
When you think about it, our association doesn’t have us wear same color shirts, so on any given week, we can wear up to five combinations. When you realize all the combinations out there, it gets spendy. I think the shirts we got at honigs were $32. I got four of them, which doesn’t help either. Two pairs of pants, plate shoes and base shoes. Really, the two items that I thought would be the worst weren’t that bad, the helmet and chest protector. Both were under $100. I went full cage instead of old school with just the mask.

I do…could there really be three huntsville, ala. uniwatchers on here?[/quote]

Additional coincidence: As you can see up at the top of today’s entry, last night I saw the film Sputnik Mania, which makes prominent mention of Wernher von Braun, whose rocketry team was headquartered in Hunstville.

[quote comment=”240084″][quote comment=”240015″][quote comment=”239992″]Thanks for posting my pics, Paul![/quote]
Zack, do you live in Huntsville?[/quote]
I live in Athens, about 15 miles west of Huntsville.[/quote]

I went to my very first shotgun wedding in Athens…

LouUmp|
March 18, 2008 at 3:23 pm |

[quote comment=”240125″]LouUmp
I’m getting into baseball.
When you think about it, our association doesn’t have us wear same color shirts, so on any given week, we can wear up to five combinations. When you realize all the combinations out there, it gets spendy. I think the shirts we got at honigs were $32. I got four of them, which doesn’t help either. Two pairs of pants, plate shoes and base shoes. Really, the two items that I thought would be the worst weren’t that bad, the helmet and chest protector. Both were under $100. I went full cage instead of old school with just the mask.[/quote]

Ah – you’re going to be one of those guys we will waving good bye to as we walk off the field, and your game is still going on…

At the risk of sending this thread into a bad direction … who wore those pants that she can get into them?

Stuby|
March 18, 2008 at 3:33 pm |

[quote comment=”240085″][quote comment=”240080″][quote comment=”240015″][quote comment=”239992″]Thanks for posting my pics, Paul![/quote]
Zack, do you live in Huntsville?[/quote]

I do…could there really be three huntsville, ala. uniwatchers on here?[/quote]

Additional coincidence: As you can see up at the top of today’s entry, last night I saw the film Sputnik Mania, which makes prominent mention of Wernher von Braun, whose rocketry team was headquartered in Hunstville.

Fascinating article about Huntsville here.[/quote]
And to put a nice bow on it, the Huntsville Havoc play their games at the Von Braun Center.

Interesting. I am no trademark expert, but it doesn’t seem like an “Obama” shirt in the Padres colors and using the Padres’ font would be a problem, so long as no logos or the like were used.

I suspect that the proprietor of the site did not have the money to fight MLB on the issue, and therefore decided not to push it.[/quote]

Just the fact that you referred to the “Padres” Obama shirts is why it is a violation. Everybody here knows why they like the shirts. A navy blue shirt with Obama in non-descript lettering won’t make you buy it. Do it with “Red Sox lettering” and we all want one. Whether we like it or not, such usage is protected under the law.[/quote]

Do you know this with certainty, or is this simply your thinking on the matter? I find the issue most intriguing, and if you or someone else can cite to any authorities on the subject, I would like to read them.

Do these teams own the trademark to the fonts, such that no one can use the font for any reason? Or are the fonts protected only in conjunction with the team colors? Or are the fonts not protected at all?[/quote]

It is possible to trademark a font assuming you designed it.

Also, just because he pulled the site doen’t mean that he was violating the law. All it means is that it wasn’t worth 100 grand in legal fees to prove he wasn’t violating the law.

Jay|
March 18, 2008 at 3:56 pm |

MLB is likely justified in going after the site in that a tee-shirt in team colors and fonts very likely creates confusion with the trademark.

The name of the group is Uni Watch Readers. i hop Paul endorses this and joins himself. Maybe the winner can get some stirrups! I kid, but seriously, i think we have more than enough readers and fans to make this work

The name of the group is Uni Watch Readers. i hop Paul endorses this and joins himself. Maybe the winner can get some stirrups! I kid, but seriously, i think we have more than enough readers and fans to make this work

Thanks[/quote]

Great Idea…I’m in. One of my female colleagues asked me to help her fill out her brackets,(not an innuendo, don’t worry), and we did exactly what Mark proposed. We chose according to uniforms. UNC wins, even that pool!

The name of the group is Uni Watch Readers. i hop Paul endorses this and joins himself. Maybe the winner can get some stirrups! I kid, but seriously, i think we have more than enough readers and fans to make this work

Thanks[/quote]

Great Idea…I’m in.

One of my female colleagues asked me to help her fill out her brackets,(not an innuendo, don’t worry), and we did exactly what Mark proposed. We chose according to uniforms. UNC wins, even that pool![/quote]

The name of the group is Uni Watch Readers. i hop Paul endorses this and joins himself. Maybe the winner can get some stirrups! I kid, but seriously, i think we have more than enough readers and fans to make this work

The name of the group is Uni Watch Readers. i hop Paul endorses this and joins himself. Maybe the winner can get some stirrups! I kid, but seriously, i think we have more than enough readers and fans to make this work

Thanks[/quote]

Great Idea…I’m in.

One of my female colleagues asked me to help her fill out her brackets,(not an innuendo, don’t worry), and we did exactly what Mark proposed. We chose according to uniforms. UNC wins, even that pool![/quote]

Had my colleague been the girl in the Duck pants, I just might have tried to “fill in her bracket”.

[quote comment=”240159″]Here’s a good shot of the Hokies wearing their VT-colored Yankees caps. It should also be noted that Bobby Abreu was wearing a pair of Mariano Rivera’s cleats.[/quote]

Great pic, Mark. Abreu was wearing very different cleats yesterday, does anybody know what they are?

Joey|
March 18, 2008 at 7:08 pm |

hey does anyone know like a local store to get baseball stirrups? I have always wanted some and now ill be played varsity baseball and I think it would be cool to be the only one out there with stirrups but my local scheels does not carry any. All they have is the fake ones witht are just socks. I know UNI Watch readers will probably know where to get some. Obviosly the internest is easist but I’d rather just buy some normally.

Joe Raskin|
March 18, 2008 at 7:13 pm |

I don’t care if it was St. Patrick’s Day. There’s something about the Knicks wearing Green that violates the time-space continuum.

This season keep getting more and more horrible as it goes on.

Jim W|
March 18, 2008 at 7:45 pm |

A few months ago, Brian took issue with Coppin State’s CSUCSUCSUCSUCSUCSUCSU business – saw a couple of minutes of the “play in game” tonight and they truly are awful.

However, I have to take issue with the “shorts” that Mount St. Mary’s are wearing. A tad on the long side I would say – one dude looked like he forgot to take off the warm up gear. Good grief.

Dave H.|
March 18, 2008 at 7:55 pm |

Rip Hamilton started the Pistons-Nuggets game wearing a jersey that said “Hamiltion”. He switched it for a correct one at the first time out.

There will be a picture moving on the AP wire.

Sam|
March 18, 2008 at 8:01 pm |

[quote comment=”240032″][quote comment=”240001″]“Instead, I found Columbus wearing one of the more unique number fonts I’ve ever seen…

Funny story about #51 on Mt. St. Marys
He usually wears #4 but he actually lost that jersey, so he opted to wear #3 instead, but that jersey didn’t have the official NCAA logo patch, so he had to wear the #51 instead.

is there going to be a wrap up of the seattle uni watch summit? was there one for the annual nyc super bowl uni watch summit?

LI Phil|
March 18, 2008 at 8:44 pm |

[quote comment=”240171″][quote comment=”240159″]Here’s a good shot of the Hokies wearing their VT-colored Yankees caps. It should also be noted that Bobby Abreu was wearing a pair of Mariano Rivera’s cleats.[/quote]

Great pic, Mark. Abreu was wearing very different cleats yesterday, does anybody know what they are?[/quote]

[quote comment=”240202″]WTF???[/quote]
It’s usually a tribute to a newborn child at home with the ricking motions with the arms. Never seen the pacifier before though. Or maybe they are just trying to tell Freddie Adu to f**king grow up.