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Re: Brutality of Syrian Rebels Posing Dilemma in West

Originally Posted by Montecresto

My point being that he is the lesser of two evils, he's not our evil, just a few short years ago Pelosi, Kerry and Clinton were singing his praises. Did we see Kerry and his wife sitting down with an Islamic extremist jihadist that pulls your heart out and eats it, or chops your head off. No, he's eating dinner with Assad, "the reformer"!

Mornin Monte. Well Mr. Graham Crackers did come out and tell everybody. That if they could not see this issue being attached to Iran. They were blind. So half of the Repubs and Dems are all for this. Nor do they care what the Rebels do.

See Kerry was able to answer back being questioned by a Junior Congressman. I would have told him.....look here Buddy I don't Care about your past record or any of the BS. When you are on the World Stage and going Emotional.....You make us looks bad. You make us look like we don't know what we are talking about.

Re: Brutality of Syrian Rebels Posing Dilemma in West

The amazing part is that the dismal attempt at sugar coating the situation on the ground in Syria by Kerry is at odds with the intelligence community! Intelligence reports in EU and US show the beheading, brutalizing, heart eating Islamic Jihadis are the muscle of the Syrian rebellion!

Re: Brutality of Syrian Rebels Posing Dilemma in West

"The prisoners, seven in all, were captured Syrian soldiers. Five were trussed, their backs marked with red welts. They kept their faces pressed to the dirt as the rebels’ commander recited a bitter revolutionary verse.

“For fifty years, they are companions to corruption,” he said. “We swear to the Lord of the Throne, that this is our oath: We will take revenge.”

The moment the poem ended, the commander, known as “the Uncle,” fired a bullet into the back of the first prisoner’s head. His gunmen followed suit, promptly killing all the men at their feet.

This scene, documented in a video smuggled out of Syria a few days ago by a former rebel who grew disgusted by the killings, offers a dark insight into how many rebels have adopted some of the same brutal and ruthless tactics as the regime they are trying to overthrow."

There are no good actors there. If our goal was to save the people of Syria it would require boots on the ground and a take down of both sides in this bloody war. But protecting the civilian population simply opens our soldiers to endless attacks by militants posing as civilians. Americans are done playing that game.

We will be assured that those are not the "main" rebels (freedom fighters?) but for "security reasons" we can not be told who the "good guys" that we wish to support actually are - lest they be sought out and killed by the evil Assad's forces.

National security is a wonderful thing which allows we the sheeple to be told by "our representatives" to simply shut up and just trust us. USA, USA, USA...

“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

Re: Brutality of Syrian Rebels Posing Dilemma in West

There should be no dilemma. Aiding either side in Syria's sectarian conflict won't materially benefit American interests. Moreover, the anti-Assad forces have shown little regard for civilian protections. They are not "good guys."

From the UN's report earlier this years:

Anti-Government armed groups have committed war crimes, including murder, torture, hostage-taking and attacking protected objects. They continue to endanger the civilian population by positioning military objectives inside civilian areas. Where armed groups carried out bombings in predominantly civilian areas, it had the effect of spreading terror and amounted to the war crime of attacking civilians.

Re: Brutality of Syrian Rebels Posing Dilemma in West

Originally Posted by ttwtt78640

We will be assured that those are not the "main" rebels (freedom fighters?) but for "security reasons" we can not be told who the "good guys" that we wish to support actually are - lest they be sought out and killed by the evil Assad's forces.

National security is a wonderful thing which allows we the sheeple to be told by "our representatives" to simply shut up and just trust us. USA, USA, USA...

Got that Right Ttwtt.....General Keane has been making the rounds on the Radio Shows. Plus Hugh Hewitt is telling people to Call their Congressman and vote for a Strike.
Keane has been saying the Bad Rebels are up North. That The FSA are the good guys. Despite him knowing they are backed by the MB and Salafists. Despite them going after Christians and others.

Re: Brutality of Syrian Rebels Posing Dilemma in West

Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon

Who is less bad and why?

Assad is less bad for LOTS of reasons. One, that's what the Syrian citizens themselves say (according to NATO and others). Two, Syria is a sovereign country who's government IS recognised by many countries as legitimate, countries who have embassies, trade ambassadors and trade goods and services, regardless of US's opinion of it. THAT, cannot be ignored. Iran has a mutual defence treaty with Syria and is obligated to defend their ally. Assad and Putin both have made clear (for the objective who don't have their fingers in their ears) that Assad is fighting a war on terror against Islamic extremists and jihadists that are terrorising his people/country and the US is interfering with his war on terror, arming and training the ones that were our enemy when they were operating in A-Stan and Iraq. And then there is the lengthy list that I have posted Sooooooo many times of the insurgents/terrorists crimes against civilians. And there's more reasons than that, but if that's not enough, then there is no enough.

Re: Brutality of Syrian Rebels Posing Dilemma in West

Originally Posted by MMC

Got that Right Ttwtt.....General Keane has been making the rounds on the Radio Shows. Plus Hugh Hewitt is telling people to Call their Congressman and vote for a Strike.
Keane has been saying the Bad Rebels are up North. That The FSA are the good guys. Despite him knowing they are backed by the MB and Salafists. Despite them going after Christians and others.

And despite the UN's deliberate and clear classification of the FSA as an al Qaida affiliate!