The cat and mouse game has been going on for years. Old habits die hard and it is deemed good training to revisit old haunts. The Russians already
announced that they would resume long-range submarine patrols after years of inactivity. They are regarded as necessary training.

Russia’s TU-95MS and the United States’ B-52 strategic bombers will exchange visits next July under a bilateral agreement, Commander of the
Russian Long Distance Lieutenant General Anatoly Zhikharev has told reporters.

Originally posted by pacifier2012
There is an American sub hiding right now off someone else country.
So does that mean that the USA is ready for WW3 as well? The answer is all big nations are ready/
Sorry to put it this way, but your post is sensationalism at best.

Where do you see sensationalism in my post? (unless you meant someone else on this thread?).

I think thats just one of the angle though true that technology is only good as the users of it make it to be

Ofcourse be it a Geo Metro or a
Mercedes Benz

A B-2 Stealth bomber today costs just over a billion dollars per aircraft.
State of the art, top of the line etc etc etc....
Can be brought down by a .22 caliber bullet with one lucky shot...
The definition of "close enough for government work " -
Measured with a micrometer, marked with a crayon and cut with an axe...

So do you think it was possibly equipment malfunction/failure/glitch/hiccup/gremlins in the naval systems and/or human error?

This I've heard as well. That only indicates faulty sensors which obviously needs to function flawlessly to feed the right information. Would
love to know more about the type of naval systems used in the gulf region to monitor the undersea traffic.

Originally posted by peter_kandra
Maybe it's possible the US Navy did know they were there and simply wanted to test our tracking capabilities? I would find it odd if all the
military planners hadn't envisioned scenarios like this and planned accordingly. I also suppose it's possible that oil spill a few years ago and
the resulting cleanup and chemicals damaged any sonar devices in the Gulf of Mexico.

Naw, fake news. The US knew the Russians were there all along. How else would they know "afterwords" that they were there, after they were gone? Did
they leave an oil slick or something?

Most likely, they watched, and did nothing. And not wanting the Russians to know that they could see and monitor their sub all the time, they planted
this story in the news media to fool the Russians into thinking Russia had so advanced a technology that the US couldn't track them. Well, if it were
true, what happened to all that UFO reverse engineered tech the US is supposed to have? Don't believe what you hear in the news for one minute.

Everything put out by the military, to be published in the news, is put there for a clandestine reason.

Originally posted by peter_kandra
Maybe it's possible the US Navy did know they were there and simply wanted to test our tracking capabilities? I would find it odd if all the
military planners hadn't envisioned scenarios like this and planned accordingly. I also suppose it's possible that oil spill a few years ago and
the resulting cleanup and chemicals damaged any sonar devices in the Gulf of Mexico.

Naw, fake news. The US knew the Russians were there all along. How else would they know "afterwords" that they were there, after they were gone? Did
they leave an oil slick or something?

Most likely, they watched, and did nothing. And not wanting the Russians to know that they could see and monitor their sub all the time, they planted
this story in the news media to fool the Russians into thinking Russia had so advanced a technology that the US couldn't track them. Well, if it were
true, what happened to all that UFO reverse engineered tech the US is supposed to have? Don't believe what you hear in the news for one minute.

Everything put out by the military, to be published in the news, is put there for a clandestine reason.

Originally posted by hp1229
Cry for more budget or truely a flaw in the anti-submarine warfare systems?

A Russian nuclear-powered attack submarine armed with long-range cruise missiles operated undetected in the Gulf of Mexico for several weeks
and its travel in strategic U.S. waters was only confirmed after it left the region, the Washington Free Beacon has learned.

In various military tactical theories, one that is often considered is to let your enemy believe he has one up on you. This leaves them vulnerable
when it comes down to a war. If your enemy is confident that they can get away with something, then they will become arrogant and proud of themselves
for doing so, and that is the fatal mistake.

At no time was the submarine not detected or not under surveillance. We needed to know it's capabilities, it's sound wave patterns, it's water
displacement, and all the rest that goes with it. It would be stupid for the Russians to believe they fooled the United States in such a way as this.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
Makes This Thread seem a lot more plausible though doesn't it!! People think the
mainland US is invincible, but our government is so inept and caught up with politicking and in-fighting that an invasion seems like it could happen
pretty easily. There are a hundred different plausible scenarios in that thread, and none of them include a Nuclear Sub in the Gulf of Mexico!! That
was thought to be impossible.

Rome thought it was invincible.

Although I don't think the Romans had the TSA sexually assaulting people at their airports, so you might be ok

It definitely sounds like they are testing their limits as to setting up their naval base back up in Cuba. Wonder if the US intentionally turned off
intercepting methods prior to them making the run into the gulf. I also wonder if Russia will be the "false flag" everyone is waiting for..

Then again I'm a newbie here and maybe I'm way off topic lol

Think about it, we are all wondering about the gun control and whether or not it will be foreign troops to do the confiscating and such. Possibly if
they send a nuke our way, it would be reason for Obama to declare martial law on the US and since half our troops are over seas anyway, we would throw
up a white flag and the NWO would commence.

I really don't know what I'm ranting about.. Lol but good fun in theory

one sub does not make an invasion force. This thing is very high tech and very quiet. If it did intend to attack us it could have fired a few nukes
and devastated a few cities... But not all of them. And we would have countered. It would have been a devastating blow to the U.S. much worse than
911 or Pearl Harbor. But it would not have crippled us. We have quite a few high tech subs, stealth aircraft of our own. We have been quietly
flying over and around Russian Airspace and sailing into Russian Waters for years... We just don't brag about it. I bet there are two U.S. subs in
the Sea of Okhotsk meandering about at this moment...

I wonder how many times our stealth bombers have flown over Russia undetected?

so is this a first? or the first it's been confirmed?? what systems do we have in place to make sure this doesn't happen? i've seen a few
mentioned, but are they 100% systems, obviously not since we're talking about it right now.

what systems do the Russians have in place? I'm sure we have done the same to them.

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