Trump DOJ Wants to Speed Up Sales and Transfers of Machine Guns! Oh, And Silencers.

Trump DOJ wants to speed up sales and transfers of machine guns. That’s the incendiary headline hovering over an abcnews.go.com story revealing — eventually — that the Department of Justice wants an additional $13.2m in the ATF budget to reduce NFA wait times. And when I say eventually, I mean after 10 paragraphs of machine gun misegos . . .

After last month’s school shooting in Parkland, Fla., that killed 17 people, President Donald Trump called for a ban on so-called bump stock devices that he said “turn legal weapons into machine guns.”

But at the same time, his administration is quietly pushing for millions more to allow the federal government to speed up approvals for the sale and transfer of actual machine guns . . .

“Our country has seen three dozen mass shootings since 20 children and 6 educators were murdered at Sandy Hook…Rather than focusing on a top gun lobby demand the administration should put money toward ATF to hire additional agents and improve the background check system,” Feinstein said.

Machine gun transfers account for a small percentage of the ATF’s NFA workload. The vast majority of their bureaucratic burden concern silencers. A fact that ABC buries even deeper in their hoplophobic hysteria.

Hysteria that somehow has to take account of these fascinating facts (and thanks for the pic of the ATF’s reference library). . .

The latest 2017 ATF data shows there are more than 630,000 machine guns registered with the ATF and more than 1.36 million silencers registered. Last year, according to ATF, more than 5.2 million weapons were registered under the NFA.

Wow! There are 630k machine guns in the U.S. and there hasn’t been a single post-Prohibition mass shooting with any of them? More than 1.36 million silencers and not a single whisper-quiet assassination?

Speaking of violent crime . . .

According to President Trump’s budget request, the additional funding would pay for 25 more people to “support the timely and effective registration of restricted weapons under the National Firearms Act while upholding the constitutional rights of the American people.”

But current and former ATF officials who spoke to ABC News on the condition of anonymity say reducing the backlog of applications for NFA restricted weapons has little to do with violent crime. “It would have minimal to no effect on combatting violent crime,” one former ATF official said. “It appears to be a compromise for the gun lobby,” the former official added.

They almost said it: machine guns and silencers have no effect on violent crime. Put that in your Second Amendment pipe and smoke it.

“””Wow! There are 630k machine guns in the U.S. and there hasn’t been a single post-Prohibition mass shooting with any of them? More than 1.36 million silencers and not a single whisper-quiet assassination?”””

I don’t know about you??
But I do not want to fill out reams of paper and need the local cops signature, then wait 6 months to just buy a 22 bolt action??

because left leaning crazy libs that grab guns will see your post in their crazy mind —as do this gun control, see it works!

Additional sources at the ATF, speaking on condition of anonymity, also say that ABC can “go screw themselves” ’cause the propaganda arm of the People’s Democratic Party calls for further firearm owner registration and then they complain about the existing registration processes that is required for law abiding citizens to receive their mandated government permission slips.

Since democrats can manufacture SBR’s without paperwork or paying why should the rest of us continue to support the NFA. We need to write our reps and repeal the NFA. If the 2 people that illegally created SBR’s aren’t given first class tickets to club Fed really fast then we shouldn’t have to deal with the NFA either.

Feinstein is clearly ignorant of the process. An increase in funding for NFA processing would in fact be hiring more agents to perform background checks (since that’s supposed to be part of the process). Besides, ATF isn’t the ones doing NICS checks, the FBI is.

““””Wow! There are 630k machine guns in the U.S. and there hasn’t been a single post-Prohibition mass shooting with any of them? More than 1.36 million silencers and not a single whisper-quiet assassination?””””

Nobody has forgotten Mr. Terry. He was murdered by a firearm that was allaowed to be sold to the mexican drug cartels by the Obama Administration including Eric Holder.
To the best of my knowledge that was a semi automatic variant of an AK47. But let’s say I’m wrong and it was select fire. That would’ve had to be done criminally after the purchase. This was not an NFA firearm. Period

I just have a very strong feeling inside, call it the Force perhaps, but I think that an NFA amnesty may very well be coming. We know that a law will probably (hopefully) not get passed with all the deadlock. ATF knows darn well that a bump stock is not statutorily an MG. So, they get told to make a rule. If they are redefined, there are two options: alter it/destroy it or registration amnesty. They (ATF) won’t want a potential few hundred thousand newly defined MGs floating around, so they may say an amnesty is needed. Best have your stuff together and ready, just in case. There really is no drawback for being ready for one.

“Our country has seen three dozen mass shootings since 20 children and 6 educators were murdered at Sandy Hook…Rather than focusing on a top gun lobby demand the administration should put money toward ATF to hire additional agents and improve the background check system,” Feinstein said.
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Isn’t it time for Kalifornia voters to put this old bat out to pasture!

The Department of Justice is writing the ban bumpstock rule, not the ATF
The rule is a ban on possession of any rate increasing device
That includes binary triggers, Gatling guns and anything else that increases rate of fire
No amnesty, no registration, current owners of legally acquired property are required to destroy or discard them
Just like was just passed in Florida
Trump got us NOTHING in exchange for the bump stock ban!

Its interesting how so many people on TTAG and the rest of the so called “gun owners” say a Bump Stock is “not Safe” and bad, and a Machine Gun is better and good!!!

My Bump Stock cost me only $189 instead of $8000 or $45,000 and up for a 40 plus year old machine gun. I understand why the leadership in the gun community is soooooo concerned about making “high end” gun purchases much easier to make.

The ATF has been talking about this for some time. They’ve also recommended removing silencers from the NFA to 1) reduce NFA Branch workload and 2) because silencers are nearly never used in crimes (this apparently, according to the BATFE is true of both registered and unregistered silencers) and therefore they see no point in doing the extra work for something that poses no threat.

They’ve posted a memo and, IIRC, also written to Congress about this topic.

I’ve had this sneaking suspicion the entire time that pistol braces were only given the okay to lesson the paperwork burden. Considering that I am building a 12in barreled AR “firearm” with a Tailhook Mod 2, I’d say JOB WELL DONE! Speaking of the ridiculous NFA stuff, why not reclassify Short Barreled Long Guns as class 1 and silencers as mail-order and then you can actually focus on those nasty machine guns. COurse, with a paperwork that light, we’re going to have ot get those agents something to do, so we should repeal the Hughes Amendment to increase the number of transferable machine guns so that those agents can earn their keep.

How about just abolishing the NFA all together. Anyone who shoots regularly knows it’s a sham. A gangster is not going to be able to control his fully automatic weapon and will soon find out he can afford to keep it full of ammo. The people that want these types of weapons ar collectors of some kind. They aren’t going to risk their collection to committ a crime. The gun control lobby has been on the wrong end of this the whole time. It’s not about stopping death to them, it’s about taking guns. There were a handful of mafia related deaths before thr NFA was past. Now there are multitudes more automatic weapons in circulation, but no death. If they get their way banning the least criminally used gun, the AR-15, we will have just as high of a murder rate and school shootings will increase as children will load up with guns they can hide to do their sick carnage. How about security people? What is the death rate by gun in a place that has armed security?

I’m absolutely cringing at the thought of some incident involving a silencer for the first time ever. I know that legal can owners are more level-headed than most gun owners, but for some reason i’m getting that “its only a matter of time” vibe.

Same here. And while we are at the functionality of the site, where are the arrows to next/previous post? When I comment or reply, I have to hit “back” several times for each comment to get back to main page.
What’s with the pop-up ads on lower right side? They have the “close” button so close the edge of my phone, I can’t reach them over my Ballistic case.