campaign.senatorjohnedwardswaspickedbyjohnkerryas his running mate that year. he faced off against dick cheney. they met at case western reserve university. this is about an hour 40 minutes. >> good evening from case western reserve university's veale center here in cleveland, ohio. i'm gwen ifill of "the newshour" and "washington week" on pbs, and i welcome you to the first and the only vice presidential debate between vice president dick cheney, the republican nominee, and senator john edwards, the democratic nominee. these debates are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's will last 90 minutes, following detailed rules of engagement worked out by representatives of the candidates. i have agreed to enforce the rules they have devised for themselves to the best of my ability. the questions tonight will be divided between foreign and domestic policy, but the specific topics were chosen by me. the candidates have not been told what they are. the rules -- for each question, there can be only a two- minute response, a 90-second rebuttal and, at my discretion, a

that is not enough. >> stephanie: oh, okay.becausejohnsununusaid he is lazy and stupid. romney walked back his own tax plan telling president obama and the american people he would not support a plan that cut taxes on the wealthy and raise taxes on the middle class -- that is mathematically impossible. as i read the actual -- like thing romney said, he basically just said huh-uh because i say so. >> wow. >> stephanie: he said so there's no economist that says the plan adds $5 trillion if i say it won't. [ applause ] >> stephanie: all right. wow. okay. so and as i was always saying i thought axelrod said it right. he said the strategy was effective in the short-term vulnerable in the long term. romney gave a good performance, the problem is none of it was rooted in fact. he told the debate medicare is -- mr. etch-a-sketch said that was wrong. the romney camp had to send someone in the spin room right after the debate to say, well he can't really do that. as for taxed obama appeared to be caught off guard by the statement that his plan wouldn't increase taxes. much of romney'

much better. >> one of your colleagues,speakerjohnboehnerhad something to say about the race in ohio. i want to get your reaction to it. >> one of the things that probably works against romney in ohio is the fact that governor kasich has done such a good job of fixing businesses in the state and attracting businesses in the state. our unemployment rate in ohio is lower than the national average. i think it's four points lower than the national average. as a result, people are still concerned about the competent and jobs in ohio but certainly isn't like you've seen in other states. >> patti ann: no question, is the paradox here that john kasich the republican governor is helping president obama win reelection? >> you know, paul i think i don't accept that. fact of the matter it's hard to defeat an incumbent president. two, ohio has always been a swing state and number three, in order for mitt romney to do better he has to be here more. the situation is we are doing better here. we went from 89 cents rainy day fund to loss of 400,000 jobs to up 123, so people are feeling better

. >>andjohntravoltaand olivia newtonjohnareswinging together for the first time in 35 years. they are putting out a charity holiday music album titled "this christmas". there are also other guest artists appearing on the album including kenny g. >> that is a who's who of musics will never listen to ever. >> john and olivia do the hits. >> you got it. >> holy cow do i not want to hear that. [ laughter ] >> could turn into a vegas show you never know. >> you never know. thanks dan. go to 866-55-press 866-557-7377. you may have heard yesterday there was a story, peter -- yesterday there was a story. >> yes. >> this story about a former governor a former chief of staff to a former president john sununu has some amazing things to say about the president. >> what people saw last night we saw a president that revealed his incompetence, how lazy and detached he is and he has absolutely no idea how serious the problems of america is. >> he called the president lazy and detached. andrea mitchell tried to give him a way out. >> did you really mean to call barack obama

"magazinejohnheilemann.guys. hi, willie. >> hello. >> it's not as bad as being a red sox fan, but if you're a jets fan right now, holy cow! tebow's like, you know, he's getting ready. >> he should have been ready. i don't know why they kept sanchez in the whole game. 103 yards, less than 50% passing, one interception and frankly wasn't close. it was a strange thing to watch. >> it was absolutely brutal. and then, of course, the yankees, man. that playoff race. >> ooh. >> you remember what i said at the beginning of the year? i said the red sox -- we only want to be ahead of the orioles. we all laughed. it's tied! >> and the red sox have a chance to spoil the yankees' season. so that might be a saving grace, at the end of this miserable year, they have three games in new york, they could ruin the yankees' scene. >> john heilemann, as a fellow red sox fan, you and i would take no pleasure out of the red sox destroying the yankees' season. despite the fact that the yankees -- >> speak for yourself there. >> 7-0. and i just remind any boston red sox that are crawling out of the gutter this m

nationalcorrespondentjohnkingis in denver getting ready for the debate over there. that's the site of the debate. john, take us into these numbers. what are you seeing? >> reporter: well, wolf, i can tell you this, talking to senior officials in the romney campaign, they believe after a tough week or ten days, the last several days, they have a little bit of a breeze at their back. they say the race has stabilized. you dig into the numbers. what is the most important issue in this first debate? the economy. look at this poll. which candidate would better handle the economy? the president, 49%, governor romney, 48%. a dead heat. the president has to defend his record. governor romney not only needs to attack his record but to convince voters he has a better place to take them if he wins the election. and you know this full well, the reason this debate and what both candidates say in the economy is so important is the friday morning after the wednesday night debate, we'll get the latest unemployment report. if governor romney could turn in a strong debate performance and another tepi

. they need to impress undecided votersmost.johnkingis at the magic wall for us. zero in on the stage where the candidates hope to gain grnd. >> the burden you would have to say is higher on mitt romney trailing in the race for the 270 electoral votes. they're debating in colorado, a dead heat. but the president has taken the edge in wisconsin, ohio, virginia and in florida. governor romney e needs to change this dynamic around because if the president were to keep two of those four, he would be almost impossible to stop. >> thank you. let's go to the debate hall where candy crowley is standing by. she's one of the moderators in the 2012 presidential debate series. the focus tonight on domestic issues, especially the economy. >> absolutely. this is parched into six, 15-minute segsegments, if you w. if first three, health care, then government. very broad suggests which would include any number of questions. each candidates gets two minutes to answer and then the rest of the time will be in discussing it. i want to bring in jessica yellin now. i know you've got an exclusive look at how

testimony this week, former u.s. ambassador to theu.n.,johnbolton,toll us today, he happenings the state department needs to listen and learn quickly. >> the state department should not wait for the conclusion of its own administrative review board, which won't report for 60 days, there ought to be an ongoing process to try to enhance the security of diplomatic and other official personnel in the middle-east and elsewhere. >> reporter: at the house oversight hearing, we will hear from sharl eep lamb, the deputy assistant secretary for programs at the bureau of diplomatic security and eric nordstrom, a regional security officer for the state department. >> shannon: thank you very much. some controversial anti-jihad ads in some anti-muslim will go up in the d.c. metro system this weekend, despite concerns about possible violent retailiation. a judge has ruled that the ads have to be up by no longer than 5:00 p.m., the pro-israel ads, jihad, a war between the civilled and the quote savages. counter ads have been taken out. the ads will be side by side in the new york subway system. they can

. president obama is leading in the polls but can mitt romney turn it around? we'llaskjohnkasich.just call him the 10% president. that is what he spiax responsibility for the deficit and libya is still raising more questions for the white house. it could have been stopped? >> paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. you'll eyes were on ohio this week as they both hit the buckeye state hard. hoping to put 18 electoral votes in their col >> paul: politics poll real lot of attention to polls because it depends on what they take and the sample. these guys have been in ohio and they should start paying income tax. this thing is as close can be they both wouldn't be here. i expect this to go down to the wire. we are always a swing state. it will be very close. >> paul: so the democrats are saying one of big things that is helping the spent the auto bailout. is that how you lead to to help the president? >> look, we're up 123,000 jobs over the last year and three-quarters. we're actually according to the bureau of labor statistics down 500 jobs, auto jobs in ohio. the situat

nationalcorrespondentjohnrobertsis tonight. >> ahead of the debate. romney is shifting the focus under a withering critique from fellow republicans he is making the campaign less referendum on the president, more a choice between who has the best policies, to lead the nation in the future. >> i represent a different course. i make sure young people have great jobs tomorrow and bright and prosperous future. that is the difference between us. >> wednesday's debate will focus on domestic policy. romney continues to hamer the president for what he calls a failed foreign policy? an op-ed in today's op-ed journal, romney declared the president is weakening the america's position in the world writing, "by failing to maintain the element of our influence and by stepping away from the allies, president obama has heightened the prospect of conflict and instability. he does not understand in american policy that lax resolve can provoke aggressio aggression. and carriage disorder." after a weekend of debate prep in boston, romney left for denver an wednesday's big event. while the campaign played

republicansenatorjohnmccain,and then the risk of being the frontrunner with obama's senior advisor david axelrod. plus, polls, ads, and early voting. with republican strategist alex castellanos, and cinderella and congressional correspondent dana bash. i'm candy crowley. this is "state of the union." >>> it would not be debate season if the political world and the campaigns didn't play the expectations game. >> the president is obviously a very eloquent, gifted speaker. he will do just fine. >> the president's campaign manager jim mecina called romney a very skilled debater and in an open memo to interested parties, senior advisor david axelroad just as he was in the primaries, we expect mitt romney to be a prepared, disciplined, and aggressive debater. joining me now is someone who knows a thing or two about expectations and debates, republican senator john mccain. a little trip down memory lane there. >> i think both candidates are well prepared, and understandably, you'll see their sur gats lowering expectations. i don't know how our guy will compete, and that's part of the whole rout

and reporters and cnn contributors. a quick reading rightnow.johnking,david gergen. >> look at e-mails, conversations during the debate. twitterverse, republicans very happy, including the top team around mitt romney. liberals complaining about the president's performance. without a doubt, participating in republican primary debates helped mitt romney, the president was rusty. hasn't done this in four years. that's not an excuse as james said earlier. the obama campaign says that mitt romney doesn't care about your job or your community. we didn't hear anything like that from the president. romney at least held his own on the big questions of the economy and role of government. if you are the challenger and hold your own, you walk off the stage happy. >> critics of the president say he's two proffesorial. i think they'll say that tonight. >> and more. we have a horse race. mitt romney's performance was head and shoulders than anything we've seen before. >> you think this was his best debate? >> he drove this debate far more than anyone else imagined. mitt romney seized upon the o

you here. dana bash is back us with. and anna navarro, a republican strategist that workedwithjohnmccainand now a cnn contributor. we're glad you're all with us this morning. richard, you know, we have you here this morning on a day -- >> so good to be here this morning. >> a challenging day for the democrats. you saw the debate. you saw what our polls are saying this morning. >> there was a debate last night? >> yeah. >> did the president lose this? >> you know, i think luckily for me this morning history tells us that we don't know really who won or lost in terms of where it moved -- if it moved any votes until many days later. these things have to set in. but clearly, as you have been reporting already this morning and as the pundits were saying last night, i think that romney had from a theatrical perspective a great night. >> we have to wait to see what history says about who won or lost. the polls are crystal clear. 60% think romney won. on the issues, romney way ahead of the president also. who would better handle the deficit. 16-point advantage. economy, a 12-point advant

johnkingjoining us from denver, the site of the debate tomorrownight.john, you'vetaken a close look at these numbers. are there any nuggets in there that may be good for the romney campaign? because 70% of latinos saying they're likely to vote for the president of the united states, that's pretty bad for romney. >> reporter: wolf, i've scrubbed the numbers, looked at the cross tops and in a word, no, there is nothing encouraging for the romney campaign in the poll of likely latino voters. one way you judge an incumbent president, president obama, you ask people what do you think of job performance? all americans are split on that question. do they approve or disapprove of the president's job performance, but among latinos, nearly 7 in 10, 68% say they approve of the president's job performance. look across looking in here to find some nugget of hope for governor romney as latinos describe themselves as moderates, 76%. conservative latino voters, you would think that would be governor romney's base, 55% majority of conservative latinos plan to vote for the democratic president o

johnelway.it was the only scheduled talk. it was a stealth bomber in the background there. romney tried to tamp down expectations in the back. >> people want to know who is going to win? who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make? in my view, it's not so much winning or losing or even the people themselves. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> playing off the enthusiastic crowd. romney had lines for the base. may even tested out a few zingers we might hear wednesday night. >> this is a home to focus on the family which is committed to preserving the foundation of america. we have to get the pipe laine from canada if i have to build it myself. >> it will kill america's entrepreneurship. >> that's the first time, by the way, romney talked about card check on the stump since the primaries. others call it the employee free choice act. it was a priority four years ago. it never passed because a few democ

's lead in the nationwide polls is narrowing. meantime, romney has pulled even inflorida.johnharwoodis in denver this morning and he will join us in just a few minutes with the other poll numbers and see just exactly how close it is. then we're going to try our own debates. at 6:30 eastern time, we have strategists from both sides of the aisle. democrat jimmy williams versus republican joe watkins. an hour later, former dnc chair and vermont governor howard dean is facing off against ed conard. irene rosenfeld, the ceo of mondolez international. the markets aren't to be forgotten. at 8:30 eastern time, we will be joined by jim grant. we're going to talk about the best investing strategies for the rest of the year with him. first, let's get you up to speed on this morning's headlines. over to andrew. >>> friday we'll get the government september jobs report. could be a game changer for the election. we'll get a hint of what may be to come. the employment report coming at 8:15 eastern time. poll forecasters say the economy likely added 155,000 private payroll jobs this month. we'll br

into being a good debater. the only time i thought he was a superb debater waswithjohnmccain.they really had to knock him out to do that. he is a competitor, he will be back, but romney has done this nsistently through the campaign. he has been a very good debater when he had to be. he had good debates in the primary when he needed to. obama, this was a missed opportunity. looking down all the time was lethal. >> colby, where was the president's fastball? >> he did not have it. he did not have anything. they are dancing in end zone now, the republicans, but we're not even yet at halftime. the esident did not bng his game, and you cannot blame anybody, the moderator, jim lehrer, how he handled it, the remarks of romney. fair warning is fair play. he knew what kind of debater romney was. all he had to do was look at the videotapes from florida, and he did a lot of things wrong, the optics were wrong, looking down, he did not have the responses he should of had. he let romney get away with sayi things, like this comment on medicare, which was not true. >> he never mentioned the opportunity

. the only time i thought he was a superb evader waswithjohnmccain,and they really had to knock him up to do that. he is a competitor, he will be that, but romney has done this consistently brought the campaign. he has been a very good debater when he had to be. he had good debates in the primaries when he needed to. obama, this was a very big missed opportunity. looking down all the time was legal. >> colby? where was the presence fastball? >> he did not have it. he did not have anything. they are dancing in the end zone, the republicans, but they are not even at halftime. the president did not bring his game. you cannot blame anybody, not the moderator, jim lehrer, how he handled it, you cannot blame the remarks of romney. the president, i believe, fair warning is fair play. he knew exactly what kind of the bitter romney was. he only needed to look at the videotape from florida. he did everything wrong. the optics were wrong, looking down, not looking at him in the eyes. he did not have responses. he let mitt romney get away with saying things, like this $716 billion number for medic

in a plane crash over the weekend. 13-year-old kyle morton and his father,48-year-oldjohnmortondied on saturday when his cessna crashed into a trailer park shortly after takeoff from shannon airport. the national transportation safety board is at the crash site trying to figure out what happened. people on the ground say they heard the engine stall in midair. >> you heard the engine. then you didn't hear. it disappeared. then you hear the branches. then you hear just a loud crash. the trailer shook. >> neighbors say john morton had a passion for flying, was a former marine, and worked for an airline that folded. >>> one of the drivers in a fiery crash in northwest d.c. is charged with dui. these two cars caught fire after the crash on georgia avenue in petworth yesterday morning. two people were left with third degree burns. at last check, they're still in critical condition. two police officers were also burned pulling victims to safety. police say more charges could be filed. >>> 6:35 right now. montgomery county police say they now know who tried to kidnap a teenager if a silver

to describe the pathway forward for america we would choose. >> i want to bringinjohnharwoodand e.j. deion, author of "our divided political heart." thank you for coming on. we've been hearing this expectation game being played, the other side trying to make the other one seem as if they are the greatest debater who ever lived. let's start with a reality check and strength and weaknesses of these candidates. let's start with president obama. what is the strength in this debate? >> he's very well informed. he is a fluid speaker. he has served as president. he's got a tremendous amount of information at his command. he doesn't mess up very often. he simply doesn't create the memorable gaffe very frequently, although he's had a couple of things with "you didn't build that" and that sort of thing. >> his weakness? >> his weakness is he can come off as prophesorial and arrogant and long-winded. >> how about you? what do you think about the president? what has he got going for him? >> he should twitter because it would force him into shorter answers. he's got the advantage romney has a bunch of

hadsenatorjohnmccainabout what you need to present to people during debate. we know yesterday you talked about this, which mitt romney will show up tonight? ab is talking about keeping the conservative base fired up or perhaps trying to go after the other people he would need to win here. let me play what bob said on "morning joe." >> i remember in the 1990s once asking john mccain is it possible and he asked -- actually asked the question is it possible to run for president and be true to yourself? he ran for president. a lot of people would say he wasn't true to himself. i asked him a couple of months ago, what's the answer to that question? and he said, i don't know. >> what do you make of that, eugene? even senator john mccain. we saw this. the guy was supposed to be the maverick. he was consumed by the sarah palin hurricane or whatever you choose to describe that event as being what we witnessed. but he did not know or does not know. >> well, this is quite a process isn't it, tamron? >> mm-hmm. >> the environment is such that every -- every step you take, every move you make,

well in the first debate. remember how badly george bush came off in the first debatewithjohnkerryin '04? all of the debates were in john kerry's favor in '04. was it perhaps that president obama wasn't prepared? busy campaigning and did he perhaps let the prep slide? did he go into the debate with a game plan that the best offense is a good defense? finally, can barack obama get back into a winning mode? the polls were looking good going into this, right? you got two remaining debates with romney. we are going to get some answers and smeperspective from charles blow. i read your column and i know how you feel about this. give me the quick one-liner how you thought last night went? >> obama lost. i play basketball in high school and you're not in your best form and you lose it. doesn't mean you lose the election and the other guy is better. just means you danny show up that night and didn't do a good job. go back, look at the tape and practice hard and come back the next time and do a better job the next time. >> he let himself be interrupted. he didn't call out certain kinds of i

. this is a widely debated thing in 1980withjohnanderson,gary johnson. >> sure, but ross perot made a difference. >> sure. >> they think that perot widely lost. >> we don't have a third party candidate anywhere near the name recognition or the popularity of ross perot or john anderson. i just don't see that happening. in fact, i see that it's almost a nonfactor, so i'm not worried about it. >> let me ask you about the new economic figures that came out. unemployment dipped below 8%. something i'm sure republicans celebrate as well. does it not undercut what has been the central theme of the republican campaign which was that he has made the economy worse because we are right down looking at an unemployment rate after a really horrible year which you can't mram president obama for in totality his first year that he inherited this big mess. now it's down to 7.8%. doesn't that show that he is on the right trajectory and kind of undermining the central argument for you? >> oh, i don't think so. you know, it's like this, candy. if you are getting blown out in a football game but you are scoring field

them back to reality. >>senatorjohnmccainis the only man who has debated both of these individuals. he weighed in on the expectations this morning. take a listen. >> serve and provide us -- >> it's not just that they go bankrupt, he doesn't understand -- >> comments that grabbed everybody's attention. because frankly, the candidates are too well prepared. they're well scripted. >> what you did not hear the beginning there, is the senator said i think you're going to see more viewers, than any debate in history. and then he also said he can't remember the last time that any of these things affected the outcome of a presidential race. save 1960 and 2000, have the debates ever really impacted the outcome of a race, chris kofinis? >> it's funny, i hear the debate about debates not necessarily mattering. and i actually disagree with that i think the 1980, the reagan/carter debate. the debates mattered. they matter in every election, they either reinforce a narrative in the election meaning we think we're going to vote for president obama. president obama does well in that debate and it

is really remarkable is how little they changed things. they have little impact. in 2004 everybodysaidjohnkerrygot the best of those. >> he was up after the first one. >> no, he was not. i've got the data right here. the only debate where there was any movement beyond two or three points from the start of the debates till the end was 1976. jerry ford moved ten points, and he made one of the great faux p pases in any debate. it doesn't have the effect that people think that it has. i think there are five things that make a difference. conventions matter a lot. the predicate, where you are in the summer beforehand, the kind of campaign you run and the kind of paid media you have. i think debates are probably fifth. >> boy, mike barnicle, i disagree with it. mark mckinnon disagrees with that. do you think debates don't have an impact, or do you think tonight actually could if mitt romney comes out -- >> i think it will have some impact. >> some impact, but i actually think that's really when the american people, for the first time, see the two candidates and really start to make their minds

was winning independent voters by 13 points. and, in 2008 hedefeatedjohnmccainby 8% with independent smacks so with the admonition of less -- let's wait until the dust has settled and see the polls in the next couple of days i'm going to be looking at the numbers in the other thing very quickly in terms of the minority vote. the other thing about barack obama's election in 2008 was the one something on the order of 43% of the white vote and in most of the national polls that is kind of where he is so that will be another number to look out for. the country is changing and in 2008, three-quarters of the electorate was white which was down from the mid-to high 80s 20 years ago and that number is going to change. and the question is in a very close election i don't think anyone thought it would get seven-point race. i think they thought it would be a two or three-point race. the metrics are there for him to win. speak to me, and i'm sorry to interrupt but to me i wanted to -- to meet the most stunning numbers from 2008, if you take out the 29-year-olds and look at the 30 plus mccain and

of an american president is pretty wonderful thing. that is our show for tonight.i'mjohnstossel.thanks for watching. ♪ >> gregg: i'm gregg jarrett. welcome to a brand-new hour inside america's election headquarters. >> heather: topping the news this hour on the same day that the president attends a private event in california, millions of golden gate state drivers see record-breaking gas prices. we'll tell you why there is so much pain at the pump. >> gregg: george zimmerman goes after a major media company over the shocking edit job on the 911 call at the heart of the case. our legal panel weighs in. >> heather: a young girl tir tied to walk in high school hallways after having problems over a romney-ryan t-shirt. >> gregg: 30 days out from election day, the governor is wrapping up a rally with supporters north of palm beach in what many say has now become a post debate victory tour. john roberts joins us from port st. lucy, florida. what is going on there? >> good afternoon. just wrapped up one of the biggest crowds so far. about 12,000 people here at this town square. where presid

. really from 1858 until 1960, johnf.kennedy versus richard nixon, debates didn't play that big a role in presidential campaigns. there were no presidential debates. but you did have in primaries occasionally, squareoffs going on. interesting to even think about stats from minnesota rarely run for president -- stacken ran for president every four years. kennedy/nixon was the game changer in debate history. people that listened to it thought nixon won on radio but on television, john f. kennedy won. nobody was that happy with the debates. we had no debates in '64 '68 '72. came back in 1976 when jimmy carter ended up doing well because of gerald ford's famous gaffe. that's the big question. can you become gaffe-free? everybody is going to be looking wednesday night to see if there was a mistake made by either person. it puts a lot of pressure on the candidates. >> jennifer: you mention nixon and kennedy and those who saw the debate felt like kennedy won. what do you think is more important? what the candida

darker.johnboehnersays it may not only be tough for a lame duck congress to piece together a deal, it would also be a wrong deal for the country. in the interview, john boehner says about that, it is a difficult thing to do, and frankly i'm not sure it is the right thing to do, have a lot of retiring members voting on big bi bills. johnathan, good day to you. >> good afternoon. >> is this making you angry, leaders thinking we should fall over this fiscal cliff? is that what they want? >> well, the part of this that is new is the idea that he is opposed to any kind of deal in principle, because it occurs after the election, but before the new lawmakers have taken office. we always knew that the two sides were far apart, but you know, now it looks even worse. on the other side you have senator patty murray, saying that she is ready to go over the fiscal cliff in order to secure tax increases on the wealthy, so it does look pretty dire at this stage. >> so januaohnathan, look, john boehner is a seasoned politician, do you think this is the new hand he is using to strengthen their pol

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