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Joining the jetpacks corps, why people should stay quiet if they're going to abuse Autopilot in their Teslas, a robot movie star, eSports at Blizzcon 2015, and discussing "The Autobiography of James T. Kirk" with author David A. Goodman.

46:48 / 13 November 2015

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On today's show we deep dive into jetpacks, Tesla's autopilot limitations and a Japanese actress who just happens to be a robot.
We also talk to author David Goodman about his new book the autobiography of James T.
Kirk only one of the greatest starfleet captains of all times.
And also Jeff and I take a trip down to BlizzCon 2015 to check out the e-sports scene.
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Alright guys, let's hit the headlines.
Obviously number one story of the week for me is jetpacks.
Well any time we can talk about jetpacks is a good time as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah and this is good jetpacks.
Yeah, I've seen jetpacks before and most of the time when you see a jetpack it's the size of a small car.
And very loud and noisy, and very impractical.
And it's not the jet pack dream that we've all had.
No.
Which is easy, and compact, and rocketeer like.
Yeah, and rocketeer like.
And that's, for me, why I was so excited to see the JB9 from Jetpack Aviation, so here it is, you're looking at it.
That is the inventor and CEO, David Mayman, he's taking a spin He's fighting crime.
I think he's fighting crime.
Is that what he's doing?
I like to think that that that is he's probably what he's did later that night in New York City in Manhattan Gotham if you will.
I think that's probably what needs to happen.
He's just patrolling the city for super villains right now, but none of the super villans have his awesome jet backpack yet.
Yeah, and no one's coming to attack the Statue of Liberty yet fortunately.
And he flew around the Statue of Liberty.
That thing looks really agile.
Rad.
Look how amaze.
Look that's amazing.
That is the dream.
That is the dream, guys.
That is the jetpack dream.
I love the fact that i'm hearing about this on our show, and our audience is hearing about it on our show.
But I kinda wish I heard about it by just being in New York, and seeing him fly around.
Freaking out.
Just being like there's a man.
Look, up in the sky.
It's a bird, it's a plane.
No, it's a dude in a jet pack.
Amazing.
Okay, so let's discuss the JB9.
Because I think this is worth some discussion.
He says that they flew this thing very conservatively.
So they can unleash this thing to go about 160 miles an hour.
How much do we have to pay him to unleash it?
He says he won't because he's like, I'm too scared to do it.
But he said you could.
Theoretically you can totally open it up.
There's somebody gonna do it.
Oh I'm sure.
Like me.
[LAUGH]
Look at that Felix Baumgartner guy who jumped out of the, he jumped out of space.
Yeah, he'll do it.
Let's go get that guy.
That guy's nuts.
He would totally do it.
I bet Red Bull could pay him a lot of money to do it.
I think I would do it.
So the flight time's at ten minutes depending on the weight of the pilot.
That's not a lot of time to fight crime in.
No, that's a very quick crime fighting flight.
And then to me the issuing thing is they're already working on a JB10.
And a JB10 they said can go over 200 MPH.
Right, because nobody will go as fast as this one will go so let's make a faster one.
Yeah, yeah exactly let's make it quicker.
And also This is my favorite, total favorite part of the story.
He says that, someday, okay, so, he doesn't want the jet pack to end up in the wrong hands.
And he means that from a safety perspective.
He means that from a super villain perspective.
Let's be honest.
[LAUGH] No, no.
I promise, safety.
[LAUGH]
Yeah.
Safety.
Safety from super villains.
So I'm assuming that's correct.
So he says, I don't want it to get into consumers hands too soon because, this is a direct quote which is my favorite he is like, I want to feel like we Have an infrastructure to train them.
We could technically just send them te unit in a box and say good luck.
Jet pack core.
I know I know.
I want to be part of the jet pack core.
He said but it's not necessarily going to end well if you're doing 200 kilometers an hour five feet off the ground.
You know, like you have no idea what you're doing.
Right.
Yeah.
That is not going to.
We have to be a trained super soldier program.
Yeah.
Of jetpack core.
But we should cal it the Rockateer University.
I'm ready.
I'm ready.
Please sign me up.
My favorite thing about this.
You told me about it that.
It's actually powered by kerosene, which seems a little steampunk to me.
Okay so they actually are calling this, Jetpack Aviation is calling this a true jetpack.
And the reason why is because it uses turbine engines, that's what powers it.
There are competitors, like the Martin jetpack.
This is just the enormous one.
That's the really big one.
And the Martin.
Jetpack uses a piston engine, so it drives a bunch of fans.
It's not really a true Jet pack.
Right.
It's a fanny pack.
It's a fanny pack.
Yeah, really, it's a fanny pack.
Also, it's huge, and this particular jetpack, the JB9, is able, he said you could store it in the back seat of a car.
You strap on the bag, it's an actually backpack.
Right, cuz you don't want to drive to your jetpacking location.
No, no, no, you don't want to do that, cuz you're defeating the purpose.
[LAUGH]
Yeah, you're completely defeating the purpose.
But he says, and then also the guys in Dubai who do the jetpack flying, have you ever seen those videos?
No, but I'm gonna be searching for them as soon as I get home.
Yeah, they're amazing.
So these guys do flyover Dubai, which we've seen on the show.
Before, they used turbines, but they don't use them for hovering, they actually just use them for thrust.
So they have wings that they use.
Right.
They look like flying squirrels.
Yeah.
They fly around and stuff, but they use turbines just for thrust, to go forward, not hover.
So this guy can fly.
He can hover, he did a little pirouette in front of the Statue of Liberty.
When can I buy this?
He says not yet, but the [UNKNOWN] gonna go on sale next year for $150,000.
Ooh, I gotta start saving.
[LAUGH] Gotta start saving for that.
So start putting away that cash.
That's a lot.
That's more than I anticipated.
He does say these two things before we move on.
The next thing, he says some day they wanna get to a point where You're going to be able to put on a pack, push the green button and immediately hover.
Suspended hover.
Oh, for naps.
I just want to hover and take a nap.
Just like, how comforting would that be.
Naps.
You only get a ten minute nap.
I can do that.
And then, he says he also wants to put together
Jetpack races.
I know, that's the face everyone's making right now.
Come on.
I would.
Jetpack races?
Forget horse racing, let's just get rid of that.
It's literally the luge of the sky.
I know.
So I think, ABC should really pick up on this and we should have battle bots Paired up with jet pack racing in the Summer programming schedule.
The only problem is the massive death count that jet pack racing is undoubtedly gonna yield.
Listen, they know the risks.
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That's all I'm saying.
I have another story for you.
Okay.
There is- one of my favorite things.
I'm ready for this as much as I'm ready for jet packs, I'm ready for self-driving cars.
Everyone in LA is ready for a self-driving car.
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I don't understand people that say, no, I don't want a self-driving car.
Give it to me, I'm ready.
One of my really close friends is leasing a Tesla.
Oh, jealous.
And he has the autopilot feature.
He showed it to me, it's amazing.
I'm ready for this, this is amazing.
But, just like everything else on the Internet The auto pilot feature is getting ruined by people on YouTube.
Maybe abusing the privilege of having auto pilot.
Yeah, it turns out that Tesla is gonna have to do some sort of management of this.
Because people are posting videos of themselves doing some really Reckless thing.
I saw a variation video, it's this one right here.
This is Estonian Anonymous, which I'm assuming is a cousin of Kale, Kale Anonymous and Estonian Anonymous.
This guy from the Netherlands, he climbed into his backseat and let his Tesla drive him around.
I kinda love this.
Seems like a really bad idea.
But I don't like the fact that it's on YouTube.
He's ruining it for all of us.
Yeah, don't publish this on YouTube.
Cuz now Tesla's like, hey we're gonna limit this.
But it's awesome!
That's what I want.
I want to be able to just hang out in the back seat.
And let it drive you.
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And lay down.
You wouldn't be able to do this?
Okay.
I feel like this is the first major move forward in technology that is That scares me as an old person.
[LAUGH] I know that's a crazy thing to say.
Yeah, it's out of your comfort zone.
But it's out of my comfort zone.
So this is the first bit of technology where I'm like, I would genuinely be terrified.
Maybe because I'm a control freak, that's probably why.
Yeah.
I'd be terrified to give up control of my car, because
Car culture is so big in LA.
Like I live in my car, I mean like.
But you know what's better than driving cars than you?
Computers.
Robots, yeah totally.
And so I get the value of it but I'm really scared of the idea.
Like it's gonna take some getting used to it.
It's like give up control in a car and be like.
Okay, okay Siri take me home and Siri is like, I got you You.
And texting mom.
I'm convinced that our kids' generation and their kids generation are going to be mystified that we ever let humans drive cars.
Oh.
Why did we let people drive anything?
Wow.
People drove?
Did anybody die?
Oh, yeah.
Lots of people died all the time.
It's gonna be like-
Horrifying.
hearing about leeches in the Middle Ages or something.
I agree.
It will feel insane.
I think we just need to get Cars are the fourth biggest killers of humans.
Yeah.
IF somebody came to you and said, I have the solution to the fourth biggest killer of humans, you'd go let's do it, sign me up.
Yeah, or the fifth, like if they said hey listen, we've figured out heart disease.
It involves dropping a little robot to clean up your arteries.
All you gotta do is release a little control in your life.
Yeah, see, that's hard for people.
They don't like that.
And I think it's tough for some people who have driven cars their whole lives.
I'm a lifer in the commuter sense.
I've always driven.
Yeah.
And for me, it's scary.
It's really scary.
What do you think they're gonna do to curb this?
The problem is now that it's on YouTube.
I don't think they should stop it.
I think this is what we wanna get to.
I wanna be able to take a nap.
Pandora's box.
But I think that's probably gonna have some sort of requirement that you have to stay in the seat.
You probably have to keep you hands on the wheel.
Yeah, there's just some lane assist stuff that disengages when you let go.
I think BMW does that.
Yeah.
And, but that's a bummer to me.
Because I think what we really need to have more controls on is YouTube.
Yeah.
So YouTube is what's ruining it for everybody, it's not the autopilot that's the problem, it's the **** who's putting it on the web.
Yeah, there should be an autonomous robot in YouTube's algorithms that refuses to let you upload [UNKNOWN] autopilot videos.
Yes.
Just don't tell Elon Musk, guys.
Yeah.
Don't tell your mom.
You'll ruin it.
This is the kid who is like, oh we totally partied last night until 3 AM!
I know!
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You're like, shut up!
Shut up, you're ruining it for everybody!
Everybody's having a good time right now!
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Everybody's making it work right now!
But there have been some close calls, though.
People went, oh gosh, [UNKNOWN]
Right.
But they're using it wrong.
They're using it too fast.
But the system can't correct in time.
I would guarantee you that there's gonna be more problems from the people over-correcting than it is from a computer.
Well no, that's why they said we're gonna limit this because people have been letting them drive hands free at 90 miles an hour.
And then when it hits a curve, It hit the curb, and it goes the wrong way.
Or it starts going into oncoming traffic, not good.
Minor details.
We're gonna start [UNKNOWN], mark my words, friends.
We're gonna start seeing some very serious accidents with Teslas unless people start being responsible.
Sign me up, I'm ready.
Ready to be irresponsible?
I'm ready to be as irresponsible, I'm just pushing myself into the future one irresponsibility at a time.
Fair enough.
All right, I like that.
We should have a t-shirt that says that.
Pushing ourselves in the future one irresponsibility at a time.
Let's talk about [UNKNOWN].
Okay.
Robot actress this is pretty exciting stuff.
I find this super fascinating.
Geminoid F is a robot that was built by Hiroshi Ishaguraw who is a roboticist in Japan.
I'm sure you've seen this guy on like Discovery Channel, Science Channel.
He's the guy who built the robot.
He's older, Japanese guy.
And the robot looks just like him.
Yeah, it's a little disturbing that you would build a mini-me.
Yeah, it's not even a mini.
Yeah, full size.
Full size me.
A robot me.
So he also made Geminoid F. And so Geminoid F is in this movie Here's a, this is a trailer for it.
From Phantom Film, called Sayonara.
It premiered at the Tokyo Film Festival and the story is like really sad.
It's about a radiation plagued Japan and everyone has to leave Japan.
They all have to leave and go to other countries.
And everybody in the country gets a number.
That assign them a priority level, and so this woman who the robot acts opposite of is stuck in her very rural countryside location waiting for her number to come up, and she's getting sicker and sicker.
The radiation sickness basically is making her very sick.
So.
Still, still moe compelling than Nicolas Cage, this robot.
But not as compelling as, I know I was going to say, slighty more, slightly more emotional than Kristin Stewart.
Has the robot been on camera yet, I haven't been able to pick out the robot.
Well that, she was there.
Yeah.
It's she acts as her, like I guess her life long, kind of care giver
And so Leona is a robot.
Is that her?
There she is right here.
Yeah that's her.
And so she is INAUDIBLE] yeah right there.
That's her acting.
And apparently she is supposed to be her caretaker like a robotic caretaker who is in a wheelchair.
And because the robot can't walk.
So they had to think of a story device to like put her-
Put her in one of these robot in the movie.
I guess so.
But it's really interesting to me that on the web site Insight, they treat her like she's a real actress and she's born in 2010 or 2012 or something like that.
It was really funny.
Huh.
And she's got a whole bio up on the fan film web site.
First they come for our assembly line jobs.
Then, they come for our actors.
Then, they come for our acting gigs.
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Some people I think
I think would probably prefer it was the other way around.
How do you feel about this?
I, you know, I like that she is a robot playing a robot.
Like I think if she was actually a robot meant to be a person.
LIke oh it's my friend.
That's not believable.
That would be weird like that would be kind of weird.
This friend is so stiff.
I know.
It would be like bicentennial man like it reminds me of that.
But, yeah, I think it's so Japan, guys.
It's so Japan.
And of course it's in Japan, but I love that we are finding new creative ways to put humanoid robots into features.
I think that's really cool.
Let's say Star Trek The Next Generation was coming out today.
Would you want Data played by an actual robot?
Not yet because it seems like the robot can't really express emotion the way, obviously, a person can.
Well, I mean, the whole point with Data couldn't have emotion.
I don't know.
If it was a really cool robot, I think I might say yes.
[LAUGH]
Sorry, Brent I feel really bad about that.
I don't know about this.
I think this is a little bit gimmicky and it's silly.
I would love to see the movie and see how it feels because maybe in the context of it all.
See, to me, the idea
It makes a little sense in context.
Feels a little premature.
I feel like we're still so far in the uncanny valley that it doesn't, but it's supposed to look like a robot, it could be a robot.
Supposed to be a robot, yeah.
See that's what I'm saying.
If it's playing, a robot playing a robot, that seems okay.
Yeah.
That seems all right.
Yeah.
But, I mean, what, do we think that maybe there are actors already out there that have been replaced with robots?
Because actually.
Oh, maybe.
Maybe we have all been watching movies Maybe Mark Wahlberg has been a robot the entire time.
I'm just saying, I mean, listen guys.
Julia Robot, Cyberg Bullock.
[LAUGH]
Get out.
Julia Roberts!
[LAUGH]
Julia Roberts.
Yeah.
Oh boy.
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Welcome back to the show.
The gentleman we are about to talk to has a pretty fancy pedigree.
He has written in television for 26 years, and has written for shows that you love.
Family Guy, Futurama,
Star Trek Enterprise.
Now, he's got &amp;nbsp;his second book out, and we're gonna talk to him about it.
The book is called, The Autobiography of James T. Kirk, which we love.
And the author is David Goodman.
Thank you for being here.
Thank you so much for having me.
I'm so excited.
You are our very first guest on the New Long Show.
I think that's somehow
Sad.
[LAUGH] We think it's awesome, because you [UNKNOWN] super welcome.
Maybe someone out there is crying.
[LAUGH]
Like oh, this is the worst.
How does someone get to write the autobiography of James T Kirk and not be James T Kirk?
You know, he is a fictional character, that's true.
So he did not write the book, but it was the idea of the book.
Was this idea that he's writing it in his own voice, he's towards the end of his life, he's looking back and I got to write it.
I had written another book, another Star Trek book before and a friend of mine named Dave Rossi who it was.
Worked on a lot of the Star Trek shows as well.
This was actually his idea and he thought I would be the right guy to write it.
And I was very nervous at the beginning to write it because.&gt;&gt;I can imagine.&gt;&gt;Star Trek fans are very passionate And if you get it wrong they don't forgive you.
How do you know--
Even if-
They tell you, yeah.
How do you know if it's wrong?
Even if you get it right, they'll tell you it's wrong.
Well, I am the biggest Star Trek fan.
There's really no way to.
Prove otherwise.
Also ladies and gentlemen, we are talking to the world's greatest and biggest Star Wars fan.
Biggest.
Oh okay.
I forgot to mention that in the honor [CROSSTALK] segment.
Star, Star Trek.
Star Trek, I'm sorry.
I don't think I'm really good at Star Wars.
I like Star Wars.
Yeah.
But not, yeah, Star Trek.
My bad.
But I've watched all the episodes, I've watched all the movies and it became a bit of a puzzle, like what do we know about him?
And what needs to be filled in.
Yeah.
And it's, there's lots, whole swathes of Kirk's history that have not been written about.
Did you get to make it up?
I essentially made it up.
[LAUGH]
How do you get to be able to make it up?
Is there like some sort of Core group of people that maintains a more.
Yeah is there a James T.
Kirk or Star Trek council?
Yeah.
Like a lore master?
No.
Okay, would that be you?
Maybe it's you now.
Maybe it's me now, maybe it's me now with the book, but the, I'm holding it up again.
But the, Mike and Denise Okuda, I don't know if you're familiar with their names.
Sure.
They've been involved with Star Trek for a long time, and
They wrote a chronology which ends up being kind of a source for me and in this chronology they place all of the events of Kirk's life from the series, so I know where all of th gaps are.
Yeah.
And the guy at CBS consumer products, named Jonathan Sitters, big Star Trek fan, I had to basically clear everything through him.
Okay?
But
I'm as big a fan as he is, so it's not like we had any disagreements.
But what about, can you say something like, Kirk hates sushi?
Or can you make up little details, or.
So personal details, yeah.
I mean, I could.
[LAUGH] I didn't do that unless I felt that it sort of sold [CROSSTALK]
But would there be somebody that would be like no, no, no.
He loves sushi?
[LAUGH]
Well, you could say that, cuz I don't think they every showed him eating sushi.
So if I said it then.
The canon would support that potentially.
It wouldnt contradict it.
It wouldn't contradict it.
Right fair enough fair enough.
As long as canon doesn't contradict it.
Fascinating.
But, is it?
I think I really do.
Yeah.
But, the thing that the job of the book was to sort of.
Find the things that we haven't said about Kirk, but are there anyway.
So for instance, we know Kirk had a son.
We find they out in Star Trek Two The Wrath Of Khan.
And if you do the math of how old that son is, looking at the chronology Kirk was a dad the whole time he was captain of the Enterprise.
Which is a big deal.
Absentee dad.
Absentee Dad.
Oh.
So what does that say about a guy who's well, choosing work over family.
So that becomes-
Five year mission's gotta be away from his kid.
Five year, a whole career away.
Yeah, that's true.
He never saw the kid.&gt;&gt; Yeah.
So that's a guy making a decision.
The guy never had Never could seem to keep a girlfriend.
Now people might say oh, he was having fun.
But there were all sorts of things in the original series that implied that Kirk was very lonely.
If he's lonely and he's a good looking, charming guy, what's the problem?
So these are all sort of things that I was playing with without contradicting things we'd seen already.
Is there any comedy in the book?
Is it a straight, legit autobiography of Kirk?
It is straight, but like Star Trek, which always had moments of humor, there is moments of humor, so
For instance, there's a Star Trek episode where Spock is getting married.
And at the end of that episode Dr. McCoy thinks Kirk's dead in front of one of the leaders of Vulcan.
And so I have a scene later on where This leader of Vulcans basically says what [BLEEP].
Can I curse?
No.
[LAUGH]
We'll bleep that, don't worry.
We'll bleep that, that's fine.
[LAUGH]
[INAUDIBLE] Family time.
What the Kirk?
What the hell?
What the Kirk?
What the hell?
Yeah.
Yeah.
What the hell, you said you were dead, what happened?
And then she also maybe says he's put on some weight.
[LAUGH]
So there are sort of moments, and then the way I deal with some episodes which I felt were somewhat ridiculous, a reader reading it might see that
I have that attitude towards that episode, but I'm not dismissing it at all, that episode.
Right.
Yeah, so in terms of technology, I mean obviously, you've written for a lot of shows that have-
Right
Futuristic technology in them, and many of them are very optimistic about the future, so for you, what is the most exciting technology that exists right now?
I think it's the technology that made that Star Wars robot toy.
The BB8?
Yeah, that's pretty good.
It's just amazing to me that
They made that, that is a practical sense of the movie.
But then also the toy exists.
How cool is that?
And it's right there, and we can play with it.
That's amazing to me.
I think that that's sort of a comment on the kind of technology that we sort of take for granted, that can make this
Completely accurate toy, which if I was a, when I was a kid that toy would be incredibly disappointing.
It would have two wheels underneath and you wind it up and it would go like this you know, and in fact, now kids get to have that toy.&gt;&gt;So what you're saying is,&gt;&gt;Don't put words in my mouth.
As the author of the autobiography.&gt;&gt; [LAUGH] I think he's about to.
James C Kirk.
Star Wars is more exciting than Star Trek.
I-
Your words.
I do not believe I said that at all.
That was, it doesn't contradict the [CROSSTALK]
There is no Star Wars without Star Trek.
Yeah, that's a really good point.
I've worked with George Lucas.
He is a big Star Trek fan, and he took lots of things.
And also there's lots of parallels between How Star Trek was originally produced.
The technology that they had to create for the spaceships week in and week out is very similar to the technology that Luke has had to create to make Star Wars.
They were both groundbreaking properties and they both created a world that fans love to live in.
So there's lots of similarities.
And,
Yeah.
Another similarity is we're getting a new Star Wars but it sounds like we're getting a new,
[CROSSTALK] Star Trek.
Very exciting
What are you looking forward to for that, what do you hope that it is?
I hope it's smart.
I'm very excited because it's clear that CBS sees this as something they want to be big and succeed, and so it'll be big.
To me, Star Trek is always about the writing, and the Star Trek shows that I have loved are written by people who are
Much smarter than me.
Right.
So I hope they find somebody much smarter than me who writes this show well.
That's about all.
Do you think if you-
Even if it's terrible I'm gonna watch.
So beware.
Yeah, yeah.
Of course.
Yeah, no we will too.
If hypothetically speaking, let's say someday you become the show runner of this new Star Trek universe
Or if we just, they just said, okay.
They call you tomorrow and they say whatever you want to make it.
Would you make it something, or would you prefer to see something that already exists in Star Trek canon?
Or would you rather see something brand new?
Like a new crew on a new ship?
I think it's new crew, new ship.
I think that you said it, further in the future.
I think Star Trek to me is always about the time in which it was made.
Mm-hm.
So they're always commenting on things that are happening right now.
And to me you want that show to feel like it's in a different era, it's in our new era.
And it's reflecting politics, social mores, who we are.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
I'm cool, I agree.
I think it's science fiction in general, but specifically Star Trek.
Well also I think that's the thing that Roddenberry did so well.
this template that he created to do a show that could be this action adventure thing but also.
Have social commentary.
If you look back in 1966, and what was on television at that time, it's an amazing accomplishment.
Completely different.
That was the time of all of the-
Western.
The Dukes of Hazzard, and you had-
Well even before this, it was like western.
[INAUDIBLE] Green Gables.
I think Man from Uncle.
Man from Uncle.
Lots of westerns.
The man's Gunsmoke.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
So, take it into outerspace.
Before you guys were born, I have a feeling.
Oh yeah, it was definitely me yeah.
[LAUGH]
I was not born then.
So, what are some of the adventures that Kirk gets into in the book?
Is it stuff from the series and beyond?
I'm filling in his life, so I'm sorta showing how he becomes the Captain we know.
So, life on the farm, he was born in Iowa.
Life on the farm, who is parents were.
His connection to Star Fleet.
And then how he gets into Star Fleet Academy.
I just, I wanna show you guys really quick.
If we take this.
That there are some great pictures in here.
I love that they're actual
Yeah, yeah.
There's some amazing photos of when he graduates the academy and oh, here's him and Spock together.
It's pretty great and you should, there's so much great stuff in here.
Right.
And so it really his adventures leading up to the adventures that we know, how he becomes a star ship captain, that we're familiar with, and then trying to find ways to talk about the adventures we're familiar with in a new way.
Whenever I'm summarizing events we're familiar with
I'm injecting a new perspective or some detail that connects to something else later on or earlier on in his life.
And then, really just trying to create a story of a guy who becomes this hero but is also Tragic in some ways as well.
He was never really fully happy, yet makes a difference in this world.
So very last question.
When can Jeff and I buy tickets to see the Oscar-winning biopic in theaters?
[LAUGH]
Yeah, there you go [CROSSTALK]
Well, that's gonna be up to you guys.
That seems right for a biopic.
[LAUGH] You're gonna have to get this made.
And I'm leaving this on your plate.
Yeah, you know I will definitely start a production company right now.
Get going.
All right, so guys the book is The Autobiography of James T. Kirk.
Here it is, we'll show it to you, show you this lovely cover right here.
The Autobiography of James T. Kirk, you don't want to miss it, especially if you're a Trek fan.
But even if you're not a Trek fan, get into it because there's gonna be a new Star Trek soon.
And you're gonna want to know all about James C Kirkland, the OG captain of the Enterprise.
[LAUGH]
Right.
OG?
OG, I guess it was OC?
Original captain?
Original.
Original gangster.
See, I don't know all those human terms, I'm sorry.
[LAUGH]
[UNKNOWN]
Actually, that term isn't very young anymore.
No, it's not.
We're old.
We're old, too.
That's much older.
Thanks for being here.
Thank you so much for coming in.
Well thank you so much for having me.
This was so much fun.
David A. Goodman, if you wanna look him up online, and thank you so much.
And hopefully, we will have you back when you write your next book.
I would love to write another book and come back.
The autobiography of [UNKNOWN] Let's see that one.
Well, fingers crossed.
I'm into that.
All right,
[UNKNOWN] book.
Yeah, [LAUGH]
[LAUGH] Yeah, yeah.
Very [UNKNOWN] All right guys, we will be right back.
We're gonna take a quick break then we're gonna talk about some BlizzCon 2015.
So don't click away, it's Tommorow Daily.
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Welcome back to the show.
That was a delightful Interview.
It was delightful.
He was great.
And speaking of stuff that's great, we were down in Anaheim this weekend checking out BlizzCon 2015 and specifically looking at the e-sports phenomenon.
Check it out.
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If you haven't been paying attention, e-sports is a huge industry.
Some analysts are predicting it will net over $600 million World wide in 2015, and it's only growing.
At this year's BlizzCon, Blizzard's annual fan convention, eSports proved to be one of the show's biggest draws.
The Olympic games of eSports is happening here.
Four world championships at BlizzCon.
Four, and it's super exciting, everybody here is really, really thrilled
To check this out and see who the champions are going to be.
Most game studios involved in e-sports have a single game in competition.
As we mentioned Blizzard has 4. Starcraft 2 uber popular real time strategy game of that pits terrans, protoss and zurg against one another in a military sci-fi epic, mega MMO World of Warcraft arena championships.
Featuring PVP teams duking it out for glory.
Blizzard's newest game, Heroes of the Storm, a free to play multiplayer online battle arena starring playable characters from every game in the company's arsenal, and Hearthstone, the collectible card game for PC, smartphones, and tablets, that lets players build custom decks and face off against local or online opponents.
They're four very different types of games, and even though every game's dev team knows the ins and outs of each one, e force players always make it interesting.
Somehow they always surprise us.
They are always doing things at a level of play that is so far beyond what any of us are capable of.
Whose going to deal all the damage for cloud 9?
[APPLAUSE]
[INAUDIBLE]
All those people cheering?
They're cheering for a game that just came out in June.
Starcraft 2 has a longstanding, even bigger fanbase.
With even more intense fans.
[APPLAUSE] So exciting.
It's amazing to be able to watch that.
Especially in person, and to see your favorite person.
I'm still trying to get [INAUDIBLE] autograph.
Favorite players and teams are a staple in the e sports community.
Just like traditional sports.
Blizzard is well aware of that fact.
And when its developers work on games with potential e sports components, they definitely like to keep players and spectators in minds.
Those values that we've kind of instilled to make the play experience better for the player hopefully will be valuable for someone who's watching the game.
And speaking of valuable, those winners aren't just walking away with pride.
The prize pool across all four championship series at Blizzcon 2015 was $1.25 million.
We are in the wrong business and need to get better at video games.
It's obvious that eSports is huge even if you've never seen a match.
Yeah, the whole convention is built on passion, passionate fans, passionate creators.
And eSports themselves I think just builds that passion and builds on that passion.
And it's only going to get bigger from here.
True.
And you know.
Who knows.
Maybe we'll see one of you here playing some world championship specs here.
[MUSIC].
Blizzcon was.
Was so good that moment, that moment where the player from cloud nine takes the the mer key.
The whole crowd just went ballistic.
It was such a favorite moment.
Yeah you see it in the package we just showed.
That moment.
Their team composition was so bizarre.
They had one warrior, who's kinda the tank.
They had two healers and two specialists, Merky and Abither bizarre team com.
No assassins on the team.
And yet they made it work.
They won the game.
It's that kinda thing I think that makes this an exciting spectator sport.
Yeah.
I mean, it's funny, I was watching some of the stuff I missed.
At Blastcon I was actually like watching on my tv last night.
I would pull up on YouTube.
Yeah.
And check it out, and I turned to my husband and I was like, is this who I am an?
I'm a sportsman
Yeah.
I'm a E sportsman addict now.
I'm like honey, the game's on, I'm watching Hero's of the Storm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Shush.
That's what it felt like last night.
It was amazing.
It's pretty cool.
I've become so addicted to Hears of the Storm.
But people have the same feelings about League of Legends and DOTA.
MOBAs in particular are capturing this feeling.
But I think Also it's manifesting in stuff like Games Done Quick.
Yeah.
When you see these guys do speed runs.
Who trick the game into doing things it wasn't intended to do.
The idea of watching someone else play a game at a high skill level I think is so.
It's catching on, and it's so compelling.
Yeah.
It's compelling.
You want to see it, because if you're any kind of gamer.
Regardless if you're casual or really into gaming like.
To see people play at that level is really impressive, like even, I mean I play a lot of video games but I, to watch somebody play something.
Splitoon is a good example.
So I play a lot of Splitoon.
We knew this.
To see people play at really high levels is so impressive to me.
Yeah.
And sometimes we come up against these people with, you know, with a specific weapon where they're using it in a way, that I'm just like, I can't
Get around this guy.
I don't know how he's doing it, and I wish I could re-watch those for my own value.
But, so it really speaks to the value, again, of spectator for all of these games.
This is really fun.
The only thing I can equate it to is playing pickup basketball and then going home and watching the NBA.
It really is that same experience, and I think that For this entire generation, we're gonna grow up and it's just gonna be normal and it's just only gonna get bigger and more televised and more prominent.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
And both [UNKNOWN] was just so much fun.
There was costumes you guys.
[LAUGH] Yeah.
Amazing.
And then of course they have all the games.
We got to play some Overwatch, that's like, we played a lot of that, it was great.
We had such a good time and we highly recommend you check out some esports.
Whatever game it is.
Yep.
We specifically we were at Apple, it's kind of they happened to have four championships so we checked those out.
But it's definitely worth your time to just watch a match, see if you like it cuz I feel like Some of you will really enjoy it.
And speaking of stuff we enjoy, I think it's time to talk about Into It.
[MUSIC]
All right, so I'll let you go first.
This is your first time on the long show.
Thank you.
So please tell me what you are into this week, I can't wait.
Well, I think you know this about me.
I am a gigantic hobby board game player.
There.
The-
I slightly knew this.
The designer board game movement, the European style of board games.
If you think board games are just Monopoly and Parcheesi and Clue, there's an entire-
You're wrong.
Giant, giant, massive cool industry.
Mystery happening.
And my in to it is a board game that I Kickstarted that I got recently and it is now available anybody can buy it, it's called Steampunk Rally.
Okay.
I think this is right up your alley.
My Steampunk Rally?
Yeah.
So you play as one of the great scientists of history and the only way these scientists can decide whether or not they, who's the best scientist, you got Einstein and Tesla and Madame Curie and all these The only way they can decide who's the bes is they get together and have a race on machines that they've built.
And it's this cool steam punk giant machine.
So, as you play, you select one of those scientists constructing this machine around you in this desert environment.
I already like this.
It's incredible.
So you're literally drafting cards and placing them down in front of you, and you have to fit them together to make this machine work.
And then you roll dice and assign the dice to certain parts of the machine, that make it do certain other things.
To create more dice, to be able to roll those, to then propel your machines through the race.
So you're really trying to build this perpetual motion machine With all the different parts that it's making and the dice that you're rolling.
It is extremely fun, my wife really dug it.
I, it's one of my favorite games that I've gotten recently and it's about 40 bucks, you can buy it now.
Okay.
I really, really like it.
This is, you're a huge nerd.
I'm a huge nerd.
I'm finding this out today.
Was there any doubt?
That;s how I got the job.
I kind of knew, but I didn't know the depth.
The depth of the nerditude.
Is it nerditude?
Nerdtosity, whatever.
Nerdtosity?
We'll take it.
But yeah, no, this is great.
This looks really fun, I feel like I wanna try it.
It's cool because it can play from two to eight players, and there's very few games nowadays that can play up to eight, which is really cool.
It's like two to four, or four to eight, like there's-
Yeah, eight is a lot of number of people-
Good range.
And if you have a big party, you can still play this game and it doesn't
Slow it down.
Cuz you're all drafting at the same time.
Yeah.
And board games are great.
You know.
I love video games.
But there's nothing like sitting across the table and being social with someone.
Having drinks.
Having some food.
And playing a physical thing.
I love board games.
I get it.
Check out Steam Punk Rally.
Steam Punk Rally.
Okay.
Cool.
Well, I have something completely.
[INAUDIBLE] But it's really, really fun and it's super weird you guys, of course it is.
In 1977, this guy, his name is Peter Stoney Emshwiller, Emshwiller is his last name.
He interviewed himself, in 1977 using at that time state of the art equipment.
And he is calling it Later That Same Life.
Okay?
So here he is.
That's him, that's good old Stoney.
He's 18 years old in this shot, this is in 77.
He put together this sizzle reel.
And he went to [UNKNOWN] and said hey listen, when I was 18 I filmed myself asking myself a whole bunch of questions about my life.
Like how my life turned out, like who did you marry, you look really Just Aaron basically, totally going post on himself and interviewing him about the feature.
He also filmed fake answers.
Like uh-huh.
Oh my goodness.
Responses.
Yeah.
He filmed responses and he was like Oh.
Oh.
That's That's really disappointing, Mike, it's upsetting.
Yeah, he basically gave himself a toolkit for later in life to fill out a-
To fill in this kind of a video journal of his life.
It's really impressive.
It's sort of like you know those journals where you fill out like questions and you answer them and then you go back three years later and you answer them again.
Kind of like that.
But instead of a couple years, 38 years.
So.
What's so crazy to me about this story, is that if I had done that in my early 20s or late teens when he's in this video?
I would have done this way sooner.
Sooner, he waits will he's 50 something years old.
Well, I think he said in the crowdfund website, he had said he had a minor health scare.
Oh.
And it made him realize, ooh, I should do this, I really should absolutely do this.
So he went to crowdfunding, he asked for $10,000.
Right now, there's six days left, he has $22,000.
People really like the idea.
If he gets to $25,000, which I really hope he does, he is going to digitally remaster the old footage.
He is going to rent a professional soundproof black cube to film his responses in.
He used to make films when he was a kid, so some Star Trek.
A lot of Star Trek on the show today.
He did a little bit of it that you see in the Crowd funding video.
Yeah.
And it is, I'm fascinated by time,
Yeah.
And the ravages of time.
It's amazing.
And you see, even, it really drug the stark contrast, like
How we change as people.
It's a beautiful thing.
He asked him, how did you meet your spouse.
I mean It's great.
It's really really great.
It's hilarious.
It looks really interesting, and also very poignantly.
Like you said, there's some really deep kind of ideas here.
But he's here in Los Angeles so I feel like we-
Oh, we should get him.
should try to get a hold of him and bring him on the show.
How do you have the forethought to do this when you're young?
I don't know.
I wish I had had that kind of
Forethought, because I don't think about myself old when I'm in my teens.
I vote let's track him down, let's interview him, and get some answers.
Let's see if he could figure out a way to interview me when I was a kid.
Maybe he has a time machine, that would be great.
[LAUGH] That would be awesome.
All right guys, it's time for our very last thing in the show, which is always our phonetographer of the day.
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Our phonetographer of the day today is Gerald.
Gerald took this ridiculously amazing picture.
I want to go to there.
On his iPhone 5S and wrote us an email and he says, this is a photo I took on my iPhone 5S in May 2015 it's at Kayangan Lake, Coron, Palawan, Philippines.
I took it while on a 20 day vacation in Philippines and Singapore.
Which we are supper jealous of.&gt;&gt;Yeah.
Look at that.&gt;&gt;The sun was right and the water so clear.
It is unedited and straight from my phone.
I thought it was a beautiful and surreal photo of paradise on earth.
You have my permission to use it if you like.
P.S. Love the show.
Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
Well, Gerald, we are super jealous
Yeah
that you went on that vacation.
Also, I agree with Jeff.
I want to go to there.
[LAUGH]
and never come back.
Yeah, what a what a gorgeous spot.
Like the water is so clear looking.
Oh my goodness.
Literally everybody who sends in pictures, I think to myself, like, all right, I'm just gonna add that to the places I will probably never get to in my life.
I would like to visit.
I just write that down, and then I kind of just sadly stare at your pictures, and go, I'm hopefully, I'm never gonna go there.
I'm really sad.
Super amazing Gerald, really great job.
If you guys wanna submit your phonetography, you can email us, tomorrow@cnet.com, that is our email address.
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Yeah.
We'd love your feedback, really.
And also, please tell us what you took the photo on and give us permission to use it in the show.
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Really?
Well, I don't know.
At some point, Genghis is gonna have an algorithm that can figure out your phone number, but we don't know when that'll be.
He has more functionality than I anticipated.
It's a secret.
So, yeah I know, please share the show, tomorrowdaily.com.
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So please don't hesitate to share those things with us.
Yes please, and if they're bad comments or negative feedback, please write us a letter.
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[LAUGH]
That's how to give us negative feedback.
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You should definitely go talk to him on Twitter.
And that's it for the show.
We'll be back on Monday with a short episode.
Yeah.
One of us will be hosting it.
Who knows?
Tune into to find out who-
And we're not having a long episode next week, right?
We are.
Actually, you know what, I lied, we do not have any shows next week cuz I'm gonna be in San Francisco.
[LAUGH] So this is a one up.
Sorry.
So it gives you plenty of time
To decide how you feel about this episode, maybe watch it a few times.
Watch this week's show, just all four episodes back to back a lot next week.
And then think about it.
And send us some feedback.
And so we can build on this as we move into December.
Right.
We're gonna have short episodes the week of Thanksgiving.
But we will not have a long show.
Obviously Thanksgiving's on a Thursday.
So we'll be back the first week of December.
So we apologize for the interruption in programming.
We just really want to get this going.
We don't wanna wait 'til December.
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So that's it for the show today.
Please find us online, let us know what you think of thank you for listening and watching and we will see you guys next time.
But until then And be a good human.
Bye.
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