Tuesday, June 10, 2008

Cardstock Testing, and a bit about Copic

I've promised for a while that I would talk about good papers for coloring on and good inks to use, so finally here I go. Today is cardstock and tomorrow is inks. But I need your help. Let me know your favorite paper and inks to use with Copic markers. Leave a comment on today's post with either what has worked or what hasn't worked, or why you like Copics. All this feedback will help everyone before they get more frustrated. On Friday, at 11:59 (or so) I will pick a winner from the comments for our neato Blog candy. Next Monday I'll publish the favorites.

Blog Prize: A Copic Sketchbook and a cute, zippered pouch filled with an assortment of Copic markers & pens.

A little bit about Copic- Copic markers were developed about 25 years ago in Japan for fine artists, designers, and comic artists (Japanese comics are called Manga). These are professional grade markers designed to last forever (unless you run over the marker with your car). These markers have been in the U.S. for almost 10 years. When we first brought them across the ocean it was to a happy crowd of mostly teenagers who followed Japanese Manga. Slowly the fine art stores and schools figured out what the rest of the world had discovered- that Copic markers made amazing artwork. About 2 years ago the stamping/papercrafting audience found these markers and fell in love.

All that means that when I talk about things on this post I will be sharing tidbits with an appeal to lots of different end-users, from Stampers to Architects, 'cause who knows who out there in blogland is reading.

What makes a good marker paper?

Copic markers, if you haven't noticed, aren't like the cheap rainbow markers you would get as a kid (you know, 36 markers for $3, wow, what a deal!). They can make beautiful work if all the parts are working together, meaning your paper works with your ink, works with your marker. 95% of the people out there are using the markers on paper (the other ones are writing on autoparts, airbrushing teddybears, making fishing lures and crazy stuff like that), so about 95% of you are dying to know what paper is best.

Alcohol markers have a few important qualities we can't forget-

1. They bleed through almost any paper that isn't coated or is a special marker paper

2. They tend to feather easily (feathering is when you color up to a line but the ink keeps flowing beyond the line)

3. They blend better on some papers than others

4. They give better special effects on some papers than others

Papers come in many types, but for simplicity I'm going to start with cardstock, since many of you following this blog are stampers.

I'm going to show you how I test a good matte cardstock(not glossy or coated), then I want you to go through your papers and tell us which ones work best. You may want to try this on a paper that lots of people have already recommended so you see how the marker should work. Remember to work with clean scratch paper under ANY paper type, even if it is a special marker paper- you never know what will bleed.

1. Take a pencil and draw a circle about a half-inch across - we use a pencil so we don't get hung up on ink types yet, we'll talk about those in the future.

2. With a middle/light colored marker color in the circle a little slower than usual - this allows us to clearly see the pencil line but also it saturates the color more when you go slower. Color right up to the line, not over it.

Does the ink seep past the pencil line?No- Proceed to step 3. Yes- if you think it's too much feathering you can stop and try another paper. If you are testing a paper that other people have said works great then you might be coloring too slowly. See step 3 to check.

3. Flip it over- Does the ink seem even where you colored?Yes- then you're doing an accurate job of "real life" testing. No- it may be an extra thick paperstock, or it might be that you need to try soaking the paper more to get an accurate read. Some thick cardstocks have a secret clay coating, so inks won't make it through the paper. Some clay coated papers leave a slight residue on your marker tip that isn't good, so try to avoid clay coated papers.

4. Take a second color, slightly darker than the first and layer it in Do this while the first color is still a little damp. Again, don't go over the line. Does it feather out now? Think if this is a picture that you're coloring and you're blending in a couple colors. Any feathering will be magnified. No Feathering or if you are comfortable with it go to step 5. Yes, there's a lot of feathering- you might consider a different paper.

5. Go back over the darker color a few times with the first color. How well did those colors blend into each other? You might want to try this with a few different color combos on the same paper to make sure it's not just your color choices that are messing you up. If the the second color just sits there, no matter how much you soak it and it won't blend then this isn't the best choice for blending (watercolor paper does this- it works beautifully, right up until you try to get a blend with this technique- see the example- it just won't blend).If it seems to blend well then go to step 6.

6. Take a colorless blender to a dry, colored spot on the paper. Touch straight down, hold it for a second and repeat in a few places. Where the lighter area meets the color, is it really subtle and soft, with very little definition? This is a great paper, but you'll have a hard time getting special effects. If it gives you a clean, crisp line where the light meets dark then congratulations! Your paper passes all my rigorous standards.

Paper is also a matter of what you are comfortable with. Many good cardstocks will fail one of these areas, but if you're still happy with the results it gives you, then this is the right paper for you. My favorite, easily available cardstock is the Neenah Classic Crest Solar White. However, even this doesn't give me quite as crisp a results as I like from my Copic Sketchbook. Trouble is, the Copic Sketchbook is bound together, and it's not a vibrant a white, so it looks a little strange when turned into a card.

For Fine Artists and illustrators who like to work on heavy, smooth papers you should test different Bristol papers. I tested one while preparing this post and it failed miserably. I have used some that work very well however. For Comic arts, I suggest the Manga Illustration Paper Natural White (Copic). Canson makes some nice FanBoy Comic Papers, but I find these a little soft for effects and their surface is not as smooth as I like for inking, though you can use them on a light table.

I have not personally tried all the other paperstocks out there that people recommend using with Copics, but now that you know what to look for, YOU can judge if they are good or not, or what quality in them is lacking. Then leave a comment today to get entered in the blog candy drawing on Friday. Next week I'll talk about some other paper types, I just don't want to confuse anyone by posting it here.

342 comments:

Another wonderful blogpost! I started with Staz-on and actually it worked IF the ink was completely dry..but I quickly found out that I had more success if I use a pigment ink, like Brilliance. So I use that now, but I actually like the staz-on stamp (not colored) look..it looks more black to me! About papers..I have tried millions of papers! Bazzill cardstock, sketch paper, water color paper and now I have just bought Copic Marker paper (haven´t had a chance to use it yet though). I like the different looks I get with the different kinds of papers - so I will keep changing them depending on what I need!Thanks for making this blog, I have it in my Google Reader..it is so cool!

I am using Papertrey White cs and Georgia Pacific cs with great results. I too have just bought some copic marker papers and need to try them out for card making purposes. As for black inks... I have used Versafine, Palette, Adirondack and Brilliance - because people on the forum said they work well with copics lol! I am still planning on buying the memento ink but I am looking forward for your review on inks. :)

I tested 5 kinds of cardstock: PaperTrey Ink's Stamper's White Select, Christine's C.C. Designs White, Stampin'Up!'s Whisper White, Stampin'Up!'s Confetti White, and Cryogen White. They all did well but on the final test with the Copic Colorless Blender, Stampin'Up!'s Whisper White and PaperTrey Ink's Stamper's White Select gave the cleanest results. I'm always surprised at how much Copic ink the papers can hold without "pilling". Great test. Thanks, again for more helpful info.

Thankyou so much for sharing your knowledge with the rest of us! I am about to order my first Copics (I am a stamper) and need all the help I can get to be able to use them to their full potential.

I tried to buy them here in Australia and can you believe they want $247 for a set of 36 markers, and I can get them from the U.S for $115 (for the same set!) needless to say I am ordering them from the States, but will just have to wait a little longer to play with them :)Plus I can get two sets for the price of one here.So I will anxiously look forward to the next part of your blogposts on using the copics!

Thanks again :)PS: if you have great tip on the best place to purchase the markers online it would be much appreciated!

I just found your blog tonight and I am so glad i did. I use Papertrey Ink's White cardstock. I have found that it works the best out of any I have tried and believe me I have tried tons. I like watercolor paper for flesh tones when i am watercoloring. I use markers for the flesh. I don't like SU whisper white at all it smears but it has like a coating on it. For Inks i use Palette Hyrid Black Noir or Versafine Onyx black. Both of those have minimal smearing but i try not to go over the ink if at all possible.

I can't tell you how pleased that I am that you are blogging us into Copic knowledge! I've learned so much already. I haven't tried the Neenah Classic Crest Solar White, but I will for sure. Currently, I'm using Papertrey Stamper's Select white because it doesn't pill no matter how many time you lay on color.

Thanks so much for the chance to win this fabulous blog candy! You ROCK!

Marianne, I am so thrilled that you have a blog now! So far I've only used Georgia-Pacific cardstock (it's what I've had on hand)--I like that it's not too thick and doesn't take much for the color to saturate. For ink, my preference is Brilliance Graphite Black. I've found that I don't even need to heat set it like others have mentioned.

I recently received a handful of Copic markers as a gift. I love them! I've been practicing with them on Papertrey's Select White with my Black Adirondak ink. This blog is absolutely wonderful and full of helpful hints and information. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and helpful hints with us. Inky Hugs,Renee V. (happystamper05)

I've only been playing with my copics for a little while so I love the fact that you started this blog with such great information. I have not had time to try your test yet but have been using Papertrey's stampers select white card stock and Brilliance black ink that is heat set and it seams to be working well. Can't wait to see what you tell us next about ink.

I'm VERY new to the world of Copics. Literally....I only have one! (so the blog candy would be fantastic!!) I read on another blog that Georgia Pacific at Walmart is good paper to use, and economical. I plan on trying that first.

I am new to the Copic revoulution, but I am gradually building my stock!! I like to use Stampin up's whisper white...also I like to you Staz-on ink...so far it has worked pretty well for me...but I am always up for some new suggestions!! So glad that you made this blog!! I need some Copic help!! Erin

I've been using Georgia Pacific cardstock. At first, I had quite a bit of bleeding out of the lines, but the more I practice, the better it gets. I'm pretty new to Copics, but I'm having fun with them! I think I might try the Neenah paper that you like, I just need to find out where to buy it...

I'm really glad your giving of your time. I just purchased a few markers. I think I should have started out with lighter colors. I have to sit down and try the different papers and can't wait until tomorrow to see your suggestion on inks. Would love to see a list of some colors that we should start out with. Thanks so much! :)

I use Georgia Pacific white, I buy this in reams in WalMart with StazOn ink, I seem to have pretty good luck working with these two with my copics. Thanks for this blog it is so informative and helpful. You are so kind and generous to share you knowledge with those of us in blogland.

This is such a fantastic Blog! I can't tell you how long I have wanted to have something like this. Most of my work has been trial and error, lots of practice and hunting out any info I could find. My favorite CS to use are Neena, PaperTrey Stampers Select, and occasionally SU Whisper white if I am not going to layer to much because to many layers cause the image to shine. I find with the SU the ink sits on the top so that I can blend with no lines which is similar to painting ( which I love doing), but it is only rarely that I want that effect.

I am truely enjoying this blog and the information tha you give to us. I use the Papertrey Stampers Select White as well and the Palette Noir Ink. I also sometimes use the Georgia Pacific paper but really like the Papertrey White. Thanks again for the very useful information.

I have heard others say that they don't like using the Stampin' Up! White paper but I used it for some images that I printed out and it worked wonderfully for straight coloring. It dosn't work well for blending colors though. The colors seemed to just sit where I put them. So if you are just doing one color on each part the SU paper works fine. There is my two cents. :)

I am new to using the copics and I appreciate the great advice you give. I have only tried the Georgia Pacific 110lb white cardstock. If works great and is very economical however it isn't as bright white as I usually like. Thanks for the tips.

Thanks so much for all the great info on your blog! I have some copics but haven't had much luck with them. I've used cardstock from Michael's but it bleeds and doesn't blend well. I don't have access to Georgia Pacific so I'm still trying to find a good cardstock!

I have tried several cardstock and ink combos. At this time, my favorite items to use are Papertrey's White with Pallet Hybrid Black Noir. I do heat set it or let it set over night because I hate when my image bleeds. I plan to purchase Neenah Classic Crest Solar White soon. I'm looking forward to your discussion on inks. My goodness....I have SO much to learn. Thank you for starting this fabulous blog!!

My VERY favorite Paper is the Neenah Classic Crest...I have tried several and it seems to work best for me!As far as ink goes...i was using the adarondak but am now totally hooked on the Memento inks....Love them!!Am Loving your blog and all the informationn...Thank You!

I am enjoying your blog so much! Thanks for all the wonderful info! I use Papertrey SS, as well as Cryogen White, and Poison Ivy, and occasionally Georgia Pacific. The only inks I've tried are Adirondack and Brilliance and I've been happy with both.

Thank you for another wonderful tutorial. While I haven't actually done the testing of cardstock as you have explained, I have been using both Georgia Pacific and Xerox 110# Cardstock. Both have worked beautifully with my Copics. I liked the Georgia Pacific better than the Xerox, but I'm not able to get the Georgia Pacific in my town any more, so the Xerox will have to do. Thanks again for all the wonderful information!

Thanks so much for helping all of us learn more about and how to use the Copic markers. I just LOVE mine. Currently I use Papertrey and Stampin up white paper. I have the most success with Brilliance ink. It will be fun to test other papers using your techniques.

I'm still pretty new to Copics... still adding to my collection. I took a class specific for these at my LSS and mat-coat paper/cs was recommended, but everyone else seems to be using a non-coated paper. I'm confused. I've tried SU white, GP white, Neenah something? (have to check the package). I figured the less than satisfactory results were my lack of skill, not the paper! Guess I need to do some testing. I've been using Adirondack pitch black ink.

What an invaluable resource your blog is! I have already learned so much, it's almost as good as having you in my house teaching! I have the most success with Papertrey's White cardstock and Georgia Pacific. I have also had success with Cryogen White. The GP does feather, but I just don't color all the way to the edge. My favorite ink to use is Palette Hybrid.

I am so glad you will be posting this info - maybe I can ease up on Obi Cami Kenobi (my copic go to girl! lol)with my questions! Woohoo for a Copic blog! I only have SU! paper, and it seems to be okay. The SU! Shimmer White has worked the best so far - but I am open to trying other papers cuz I want to make sure I get the absolute best for my Copics! :) I first tried StazOn but didn't really like it. I ordered several other inks to try, and the pigment inks seem to work the best (Brilliance & Adirondack are what I've tried) I've also tried Tim Holtz Distress Ink, Adirondack Dye Ink and India Ink (dye) with decent results. It seems the lighter colors of Copics still seem to much in the black no matter which ink I use, so am careful coloring by the lines. I am so excited there is a Copic Certification coming to Chicago and I hope to attend!

Hi, Marianne! I am a Copic-Newbie, and bought my first 120+ sketchers last month, with another 25+ coming this week! I am in love! I have never taken a class, but have just been taking sound advice off of blogs and YouTube Tutorials. I have had great compliments, so I must be doing something right, ha ha!

OK, as for cardstock, I have been using this huge stash of Making Memories cardstock that I found at BigLots last year at a pack of 50 (or 100?) sheets for $2.00!!! I have been getting pretty great results (but have nothing to compare it to since I haven't tried anything else) and I have been trying new things on my own to see what my limits are with these wonderful tools.

I started with Brilliance, then went to a Crop and think it got lost or stolen, so then tried Stazon and am happy with that, too.

I saw a YouTube Video where a gal colored a poster image on COPY PAPER, and she actually recommends using THIN paper, what are your comments on that?

Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us, we appreciate YOU! Nicole

I am currently using Neenah Classic Crest Solar White in the 110# cover weight. Are you using that weight or the 80# cover? I'm not sure if there would be much of a difference or not. Inks I have tried are Palette Noir (some bleeding) and Brilliance Graphite black heat set (love it, no bleeding/smearing). I can't wait to try the new Memento ink. Thanks for putting this blog out! What a great resource. Casiedu

Hi Marianne! I am mostly using the Neenah classic crest cover for paper and Palette Noir black or umber ink. I tried the Adirondack black and it smeared but I am going to try that again after seeing so many have success with that. I appreciate all your information!

Right now my favorite combo is Whisper White Cardstock from SU, Versafine Black Onyx Ink heat embossed with Clear Embossing powder. I also have had good success with Palette Noir or Brilliance Graphite Black & Georgia Pacific.

The paper I am using now is Neenah Classic Solar White. I like it, but it is not really perfect. I would like it to be more glossy, images to be crispier. But it is OK.I have tried several inks (Adirondack, Brilliance, Memento, Stampin'Up!, Memory, Versafine, Distress...), and the only one that up to now is working all the time is Memento. Adirondack and Brilliance are great too, but I don't know what, some days they are not working (I think this has something to do with humidity). Distress Ink is also working, but I find stamped images are not crisp enough, as if the ink is too liquid and bleeding a bit in the paper. I can't wait to see what is working for others, and to see your post next week about other types of paper.

OK, I thought my comment posted but I guess not! I took a Copic class at Creative Pals ~taught by Kathy Sanders who's been using Copics FOREVER!! They sell a coated paper called MatteKote that is the best & easiest to work with. For non coated my first choice is PaperTrey white ~ nice & thick :)

Your blog is fantastic! I am a Copic newbie myself and just finished getting Box A and am estatic!!

My favorite papers to color on at the moment is Papertrey White and Paper Accents Pearlized Cardstocks. I also use Stampin' Up! Whisper White but I prefer the heavier cardstocks when I'm using my Copics.

I just love the look of Copic markers. I am looking forward to trying them out. I need to buy some, but haven't been able to shell out the bucks needed to get a basic set, and I'm the kind of gal who wants it ALL! I'm sure your blog will tempt me into making the plunge.

Papertrey Stamper's Select White is what I use if I am belnding colors. SU Whisper White for just plain coloring. I am still playing with inks though ebcaus ei have yet to try one that is not smearing all the time. I see alot of Palette ones here so may have to try that one next.

Your blog is awesome and I appreciate all the wonderful info you're providing!

I use Georgia Pacific CS and I love it. It works great for me and I've never had any problems. For the ink I've recently discovered Memento ink by Tsukineko. It doesn't bleed and you can color right away.

wow- I think i will learn a lot here... I only have about 15 colors- I typically use them on my CTMH white daisy cardstock... at first it bled too much but after playing with them I've realized I need a little softer touch and no more bleeding. They blend really well on that paper too. I have the Papertrey ink cardstock but haven't even opened it yet to try. I use the palette noir ink - haven't had much luck with staz-on although i'm usually too impatient to wait for it to sit or heat set before coloring.

I've had limited success with anything that I've tried, but I think that was mostly due to not stamping with the right ink, not the paper. I don't actually know the brand of the paper I used, just a very heavy smooth cardstock that I have had around for a long time. I am curious what you have to say about Judikins Matte-Cote cardstock though.

Thanks for yet another informative post! I am loving the Memento ink with the Copics because it dries quickly and doesn't require heat-setting. For paper, I've mostly been using Papertrey's Stamper's Select White. Thanks for the chance at some Copic goodies, Marianne!

I use Georgia Pacific, only because it's the most economical and I haven't ordered PTI's yet! :) I found that Pallete Hybrid (Noir), Brillance (heat set) and Ranger Adirondak work great for inks. I want to try the Memento inks though..

I just got my markers yesterday, and I have only tried it on two types of paper. 1-regular ink jet paper and 2-GP Cardstock (Walmart). I would not recommend a "regular" sheet of paper...too flimsy and pills. I am liking the cardstock so far. I will be reading the comments to see what others are using.

Wow, your blog is SO helpful. I am also pretty new to Copics and so far have only used the SU whisper white card stock. I definitely plan on trying the different card stocks mentioned. Thanks for the chance at blog candy too!

I love your blog. It has helped me so much to understand Copic Markers and their many uses. I tried your test on the three main papers that I use, Bazzil, Papertrey Stamper's Select and Xerox Premium Multipurpose White. Of course, the cardstocks (first two) had the best results with no feathering at all. The paper did well, as far as feathering, but didn't blend well. Thanks for sharing such a simple test. I look forward to reading your blog each day. Can't wait to see what you have to say about inks... I'm still learning with those as well.

I am currently using Paper Trey Inks paper with Brilliance ink. I am anxious to try Neenah paper. I am loving all of the information you have on this blog. WOW! I feel like I am way behind the times but trying to catch up fast! Thanks for such great information

I was using Georgia Pacific Paper but it's not white enough for me. I then went to Wasbau white and liked it. I just bought the Neehah cover and really like the way it works. I have not had any luck with the Brilliance Ink heat set or not. I just bought the Memento ink Saturday and I finally don't have any smearing! So for now it's Neeha and Mememto.

I am learning so much from your blog. I was very frustrated because everyone is raving about the Copics and I wasn't getting the results. Your information has been invaluable and now I can enjoy the Copics and really get the craze.

I have only tried SU whisper white CS so far so I can't compare the others just yet. As for ink, my favorite is Brilliance or Palette Noir. Since so many of you like the Neena white paper, I just might have to order some of that. Thanks for enabling me :) Also a big thanks for starting this blog Marianne.

I use either Georgia-Pacific cardstock or Stampin' Up! Whisper White, but I don't have an educated opinion yet as I'm pretty new to Copics, but I do love them! I just need more time to practice! I am SO, SO, SO happy that you started a blog for us!

I have found I like Curious Cryogen White the best. I get excellent blending results without having to totally saturate the area. And the shimmer of the cardstock can be seen right through the ink which is a nice feature. Because this paper is not a true white, you should make up a color chart to see what each color will truly be. I have also used PaperTrey Select White with success, less bleeding on this paper but it does not blend as easily as the Cryogen. As to inks, the new Tsukineko Memento Tuxedo black ink is by far the best. You get a nice crisp image and can immediately add color with your Copics with no feathering of the ink. It is fabulous and I love that I do not need to heat set it as I did with my previous favorite, Brilliance Graphite black. I have been learning so much from your blog and am thrilled that you are taking the time to share with us.

I was introduced to Copics by the wonderful ladies at A Muse. I love how i can shade things and that I never end up with the straks I always ended up with using other markers. I love your blog and can't wait to learn more about this wonderful product.

I like using Georgia Pacific and Adirondack ink with my Copic markers. Thanks for the great blog. I'm always talking about my Copics so it's nice to have a place to direct my friends for more information.

I've been using the Georgia Pacific from Walmart and have had pretty good results. I do get alittle bit of bleeding by the edge but I'm thinking that is just too heavy of a hand. I'm loving all your imformation.

GREAT information! My favorite paper is Papertrey Ink's Stampers Select White. My absolute favorite ink for everything EXCEPT images I want to color with my Copic markers is VersaFine, but I'm too impatient to wait for it to dry sufficiently before coloring, so it smears. I have been using the new Memento ink and it is fabulous for this purpose! It dries quickly and there is no smearing whatsoever.

Your blog posts are so wonderful and informative. Thank you so much for sharing all that you know about Copics with us rookies!

My favorite paper right now is Stampers Select White from Papertrey Ink. I love that it doesn't break down as I layer the ink. As for inks, I am LOVING the new Memento Tuxedo Black ink. It dries speedy quick, I don't have to heatset it, and it doesn't blur when used with the Copics. I also like the Brilliance Graphite Black ink and use that on occasion. I just don't like that I have to heatset it or wait for it to dry. I'm way too impatient for that. Karolyn L. (garkarlon@msn.com)

I love to colour. I've tried several different media but have never really been satisfied with the results. The closest I came was with coloured pencils and stump blending - until I read about Copics. I hesitated to get any because of the price and because they are difficult to get in Canada and I had to add shipping to the already costly price. I AM SURE NOT SORRY I got some. The first attempt thrilled me. Now with the help of your blog I'm approaching sublime. Thanks sooooo much - Nimmy

This blog is amazing! I have to confess that I don't own any copics "YET". I am still trying to decide which to start with. I will be using papertey CS to begin with because I have it on hand. Thanks for all you do to get us informed about these wonderful markers.

Another newbie here ... only have 3 Copics as hard to find in my area ... I'm working on it!! I use Papertrey White and Palette Noir ink. Thanks for sharing your talents with us! I've learned so much in just a few posts!! Karen

I have a few Copics (just adding to my collection a little at a time) & have tried watercolor paper, Georgia Pacific white & SU! Whisper White. So far I really like the results I get from the Whisper White. The colors even blend well for me. Thanks for the great tips! Looking forward to the ink comparisons. So far I've only used Staz-on & Su! Classic Black. They both work fine if they are dry before coloring in.

I bought a Magna cardstock pad at the UofO bookstore for relatively cheap. It's 110lb cardstock and colors with the Copics awesomely (I swear that's a word). I also use Brilliance ink. Thanks for starting a blog! We all really appreciate it!

Great post!! I am SO glad you started this blog. You have no idea how much I needed it. I have tried Georgia Pacific paper and Paper Trey Ink. At first the PTI seemed not to work but when I tried again it worked. Don't know what I did the first time. When I did a chart on both, the colors came out much sharper and cleaner on the PTI paper. As for inks, I've used Brilliance and Adirondack and both work great so far.

Thank you so very much for putting together all of this great info in one spot! I am a new copic owner and still trying to figure them out. I just wish that I would have read your blog BEFORE I bought a bunch of random colors lol!

I can't tell you how excited I am to see that you are blogging. I appreciate every little tidbit that you share on using the copic markers. Thank you so much! I've used both Papertrey Ink's white cs and Stampin' Up!'s whisper white cs with the Palette Noir ink all with great results! Thanks for the chance at winning some blog candy!~Crystal M.

I use Pitch Black Adirondack ink. There is no drying time or smearing. Right now I use either Stampin' Up! Whisper White or Papertrey's Stamper's Select. I LOVE your blog and find it extremely informative! Thanks for your hard work! Jackie

i don't have any copics so i can't respond to the question - does that mean i can't play? :) i have a pad of Canson 90# watercolor paper [bought @ LSS] and i just love it for the OMS technique. i'm guessing it would work well with copics too.

I have the Neenah but haven't actually tested it yet. So far my fave paper is the Georgia Pacific 110# cardstock from Walmart - cheap, but gives great results. It does tend to feather a little - but it's not too bad. It could also be a little whiter, but again, it's not so bad.

As for ink, *hands down* Graphite Black Brilliance Ink. I have tried LOTS of different black inks and none can compare to the Brilliance. As long as you keep it well inked, it gives the richest, cleanest black lines. I've tried the Memento and the lines are not crisp and the ink even looks a little gray next to the Brilliance. I've also tried the Adirondack and after running over the dried ink with the colorless blender, it ended up with sort of a brown haze. The Nick Bantok ink also had a little brown haze, although not as much as the Adirondack. Also, both of them being dye inks, the lines were also fuzzy and not as rich. Palette and Versafine both did terribly - both smeared when colored with the blender.

When I ran the blender over the Brilliance (once thoroughly dried) there was absolutely no smearing and browning. I love it and won't use any other ink with my Copics!!

Thank you so much for these posts. I have just recently started with Copic markers, and the learning curve is large. I have learned, however, that I should turn mistakes into lessons learned, and carry on trying. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and lessons learned.

WOW!! This was great!! I have been using cheap white cardstock from Joann fabrics and wondered why everything bleeds soo much. I am copic challenged but bought them b4 I figured it out. I think reading your blog will help me get out of my copic funk and start working. Thanks bunches for a great tutorial!

Love your blog! Through trial and error (and error, and error, and error), I've found that Neenah & PTI work the best for me in terms of paper - there is minimal feathering, and good blendability. For ink, I've had the best results with Brillance pigment ink, Palette hybrid ink, and Memento ink.

Sadly, I cannot leave a comment about which paper I like using with Copics, because I've yet to get some Copics! I know, sad, huh? I am soaking up your info. regarding Copics as they are something I'm just aching to own. Your blog is so great and it is definitely educating me as to what to buy first and then how to use them. This is such a terrific blog and idea for the blog! Thanks! Rae C.

My favorite paper is the Copic sketchbook paper. I mainly use multiliners and the 12 neutral grays, and the sketchbook gives me really good tonal separation between all 12 colors.

The paper I use the most, though is in my everyday sketchbooks - Ampad gold fiber project planners. The multiliners work fine on that paper, but the darkest tones of the neutral gray 12 pack have minimal color separation - so I usually just use my N0 to N5 markers. Those 6 lighter tones are not as well seperated on the ampad paper as on the Copic, but they work well enough for coloring the best of my my doodles and thumbnail drawings.

Neither of my sketchbooks are not used for final art. The stuff in the Ampad get redrawn in Illustrator - but the stuff in the Copic sketchbook often gets scanned and the wokred up further in Photoshop.

I do keep thinking about saving up and just switching over to the Copic sketchbooks entirely once I finish up the last 4 blank ampad books I already have. The Copic paper is much more fun and enjoyable.

I am so happy I found your blog! I haven't bought any Copics yet, but plan to real soon. I love the Papertrey white cardstock, and it sounds like it works well with the Copics. Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge! I wish I could attend one of your certification classes!

I just love following this discussion.... I have not tried my markers on many different papers yet, mostly just Georgia Pacific. I was not happy the first time I tried it out, but that was because of the ink I was using. I'll be anxious to read your post on that subject! Now that I see your samples on the blog, I'll test the paper again and see how it fares. Denise Bryant

You are a wealth of information! I just recently started to collect my copic markers and have been using them on light weight (65lb) cardstock. No it doesn't work well, but the colors where great. Now that I have a cardstock name to look for, I will try out some better cardstock. Thank you for starting this blog!

thank-you for an awesome site! i have recently purchased a bunch of copics (Cami's blog talked me into it:))and I absolutely love them!! but of course I am still learning/experimenting with them and your site is such a help! I am using Georgia Pacific cardstock and both memento and palette ink with great results. keep up the great job!!

A great Blogspot! I learned a few things and can't wait to try them out. I use believe it or not just plain cover card stock from Staples and use two different inks depending on what I am working on. I use graphite black/Brilliance. and Pitch black/ adirondack. Keep up the grrrrreat job.Lesa

I am learning so much from your blog, thank-you! I get good results from Brilliance Graphite Black or Adirondack Pitch Black ink. As for cardstock, I like the Stamper's Select from Papertey Ink. Thanks again!

well I know this is terribly bad to say - but I with my job (insurance ..oy) I only have access to regular bright white 11x14 legal paper during the day - and with a couple of sheets underneath to allow for soak through it works pretty well for blending especially since its so easy to get that thin of paper soaked thru - I did this drawing at work and it came out pretty well considering I used awesome markers on jo-shmo paper. http://oyasumiyumiko.deviantart.com/art/Copic-Girl-74381837

weeeee I hope I get picked, you should really do a copic certification in Atlanta - dont forget us southerners!! ;D

To be honest with you, I have yet to pick up a Copic marker. I am relatively new to stamping/paper crafting and started building my marker collection with LePlumes. Now that I am reading all about the Copic markers, I am eager to try them. I have yet to find a store in my area that sells them, but have a few more to search through.

This is the best and most informative blog I have found. I am learning so much about these markers, I have set D and love them and now I am collecting set A. I love how they blend, no lines.I appreciate them so much more, now that I am learning the right way to use them. Thank you again for making this such a great tool for us all.

I am so glad I just found this blog, I got a Set A of Copic markers a few weeks ago...the white cardstock that I have been using is a Paper pack from the Paper Studio (HL brand). It works ok for me, but I am open to try other brands. I will do the "test" on this Cardstock.

This is just the blog I needed! Thank you! I have found that Stampin Up's dye ink does not work well with Copics--it bleeds. I've only used Stampin Up's whisper white cardstock, and it seems to work fine for me. I'd like to try different papers, but I have so much of the Stampin' Up paper, so I want to use that up first.Thanks for all the great tips--they are a tremendous help!

I have been using Papertrey white with great results (better than Neenah, which I also tried). Recently I bought some Canson Fanboy from Stamping Bella and had fantastic results. A little different feel than using the papertrey which I was used too. It seems to bleed a bit faster, so you need to use less ink, but it blends much better. I think with a little practice, it will become my paper of choice.

Thank you for starting this blog!! Fabulous information....I sit glued to the computer waiting for an update!! I use Papertrey Stamper's Select white, it works great and doesn't pill or bleed. The ink I use is Brilliance - it doesn't smear or run for me!

I generally use Close To My Heart's Daisy White cardstock or Papertrey's white cardstock. My ink of choice is Memento. I found the Copic Ciao markers a little over a year ago and haven't looked back. Sure, they mighty pricey, but there is NO comparison to anything else I've used!!

I'm so happy I found your blog! I have tried Palette ink on Georgia Pacific Paper and get a fair amount of feathering. I am waiting for my order from Paper Trey to try their white. Thanks for all the tips!

What an AWESOME BLOG!!!! I've heard such wonderful things about the class you taught in Eugene and soooo wish I could have attended - I'm hope to see you in the future - in the meantime - lovin your blog. Paper - I have used several and my two favorite are Papertrey Ink' White or Neenah Solar White..... will be back for the ink post and will let you know what has and has not worked ink-wise.... until then. Enjoy and Create

I am so happy that you are using this blog to educate all of us on the many wonders of Copic markers. I am very new to using Copics so I don't have alot of great advice to add. I have only tried SU's Whisper White and Georgia Pacific cs. I think I like the Georgia Pacific the best. I have also been using Brilliance ink. That seems to work well when heat set. I am very eager to learn everything I can. Hopefully that will somehow justify the money I have invested in my collection of markers. Please don't tell the husband!!

So glad I found your blog! I personally use Neenah Classic Crest Solar White, which I can find locally. Depending on the type of stamp, rubber I use Adirondack Pitch Black ink, or acrylic I use Brilliance Graphite Black.

I am so thrilled to have found your blog! I have quite a few Copics and am always looking for information on how to use them to their full potential. I mostly use Hammermill Color Copy Cover paper and find that it works pretty well. The inks don't bleed outside my image and they blend fairly well, too. I have tried the cheap stuff and the markers bleed outside the lines every time.

Great information!! I've tried several but haven't found a fav yet - the GP doesn't work for me - feathers way too much. The Papertrey is better but I'm having blending trouble - although that may be ME! :) I want to try the Neenah next.

Loving this blog! Limited useage of different papers - I currently use SU whisper white and GP cardstock I picked up at Sam's. As far as markers, I've been using SU's markers and have a limited set of Prismacolor markers - but just drooling and pining over the Copics! Thanks for sharing your knowledge . . . I've been learning a lot reading this new blog! Kudos! And thanks for the chance to win some awesome blog candy!Chris Weiss audris_mom@yahoo.com

I love your blog - thanks for sharing all of your valuable information! I just recently got my copics and am anxious to learn as much as I can. I have tried the Georgia Pacific cardstock from Wal-Mart with pretty good success. I look forward to seeing what everyone else's favorites are to try them also!

Yet again, another great tutorial! You do such a beautiful job explaining these wonderful markers! For paper, I use either Neenah Classic or PTI stampers select (I have heard that these are actually the same paper- they do act similarly.) I, also, like to use the Curious Iridescent Crycogen White and Poison Ivy when I won't some shimmer. As far as inks go, there are several that I might choose, each having different pros and cons. Rangers Adirondack is good in that I have not had smearing problems with it but it doesn't always stamp a dark, crisp image. Memento works well and has a good image but I seem to have some smearing especially when trying to remove color with the colorless blender. I love the crips, clean looks I get with Brilliance and Versafine but they must by heat set before coloring. Thanks for this awesome opportunity and for your wonderful blog!

wow just found you blog and I'll be bookmarking it so that I can refer back to it! I am still working with them and trying to get them to cooperate with me (which may happen now that there's this blog) but the thing that I love about them are all the different colors and the ease it should be to shade. Thanks for the chance!

My new favorite blog! (Next to my DIL's with news of my sweet GD-of course) Thank you! I've already learned so much! I'm marveling at my cute gray shadowed flowers. The flower and the jeans samples have inspired me in another way-I don't need to use a stamp for everything-I can draw and I can letter.

I'm happy with the GP cardstock (I like the weight) and have switched from Adirondack Pitch Black to heat set Brilliance Graphite Black because of feathering with the Pitch Black.

I've been trying all sorts of papers lately. And I have 203847209384 gajillion inks that I try too. I am happiest with my Georgia Pacific cardstock (from Walmart) and my Brilliance Graphite black ink.)

I still want to try MORE and different inks but my DH will kill me if I buy ONE. MORE. BLACK. INK. hehe

I just got my copics for mothers day and wow so much to learn so far I have used CTMH white daisy cs and I also have used georgia pacific that I get in bulk at sams cuz the price is right. I love that you have a blog cuz beleive me I really need all the help thanks soooo much I will definatley try the neenah brand..thanks tu amiga kat..

I am thrilled you have started a blog about Copics!! I currently use Papertrey Stamper's Select White with Memento Tuxedo Black ink. Love both. The PTI paper NEVER pills and the memento ink gives a beautiful crisp BLACK line and does not need to be heat set like Brilliance Graphite Black.

I use Georgia Pacific CS it is the cheapest at Walmart, believe it or not. I also got a ink pad recently from Michaels, cost $10.00 and it is a no name, but it is a permenant ink. The ink pad comes with a rubber bottom, so when it is sitting on the table it doesn't move and that is very nice. I love your blog, as I am new with copic markers and am learning alot from your blog.

I am using Neenah Classic Crest Solar White paper. I did use Versafine, but tried Adirondack and I like it better. I am planning on picking up some Memento as everyone seems to love it and I want to try it out. I love your blog and I'm learning so much. I definitely need to get a couple of gray Copics!! Thanks so much for the blog candy!

I just started using Neenah Classic Crest Solar White and it works great. Before that I was using GP. It works good too. I was using Adirondak Black, but now I'm using Memento. I'm really liking the Memento. I haven't had any problems with it smearing. Thanks for all the great info!

I just love your tips and techniques. So much so, that I print them, place them in protective page covers and put them into a binder which stays next to my craft desk. Thank you so much, you are making my colouring life much easier!!

Thanks for such an informative blog. I have sure learned a lot already and look forward to future posts. I am still searching for the best cardstock. I have tried several and like Papertrey Inc Stampers Select white the best so far but find it a little thick. I haven't tried the Neenah Classic Crest but have ordered some that will be here in a couple of days and look forward to trying it.

I just found your blog this morning--love it! I actually don't own any Copics (*GASP!*), yet anyway! After seeing this, I need to go get them right away! I'd LOVE to win this sampling to get me started in the land of possibility! Thanks for the chance to win!

Just to let you know that i LOOOVE the Canson Manga Sketch book for my paper to copic and stamp on.. LOOVE IT.. the colours "melt" together.. the colour of the paper is not a true white which I LOOVE also.. Hope this helps. I use Brilliance Graphite Black ink to go with my paper

I truly appreciate you willingness to educate all of us on COpics. I am so excited to use mine, but am intimidated by all the potential and details. I was at Michaels and found Canson Fanboy Manga Drawing pads on CLEARANCE! It passed the test with FLYING COLORS! I haven't played with inks, but I will be trying Palette and Stazon.

I've had the best luck with Paper Trey Ink's Stamper's select white. It's the only paper I use now with my Copics, though I haven't tried the Neenah Classic Crest Solar White........yet. For ink, I like Brilliance black ink. I'd also like to try the Memento ink at some point. Love your blog, there is so much great info!

Marianne, I like to stamp with Brilliance Graphite Black ink (let it dry over night or use a heat gun) on PaperTrey Ink white card stock. I'm still experimenting with different inks and papers, but that's my favorite so far.

I am a new Copic user and loving them! Most people I stamp with are unfamiliar with Copics. I look at the blog each morning first thing! I have been using Georgia Pacific paper with great success. I also have used Versafine and Staz-on inks. Thanks for sharing your talents.

Thank you so much for the Copic Education, Marianne! My coloring is improving already! I have been using the Memento inks with PTI Stampers Select White cardstock, Cryogen White and Poison Ivory cardstocks with great results.

Thanks again for all the great info and the opportunity to win the Copic Candy!

I seem to get minimal feathering with paper rocks 110lb bright white and adirondack pitch black. The brilliance is fine but not as "black" as the adirondack. Looking forward to the certification next week. Thanks!

Well.... I'm so new to copic markers, I don't even own one! I'm lucky to have found your blog, it's so informative!I have found and will soon be about to order a 72 copic sketch set. I used to use different markers at college and we used drawing ink pens and marker pad!

Your posts have been very helpful. I wish I could take one of your classes, but they are all too far away. I teach at my LSS and would love to teach a class on the markers. Maybe after studying your posts I'll be able to do that.

I LOVE your blog! I use primarily Stampin' Up! Whisper White cardstock because I am a stamper - and that is what I have on hand. However, I am just learning how to use Copics, so I am very interested in finding out what papers work best. Thank you for all the tips and lessons. This is really invaluable. If you ever come south for a certification course, I'll be there!

i am soaking up all your info! thank you! i'm experimenting now ~ and taking in all the tips my good friends mishie & ellen have recommended. so far i like the adirondack inks, but i'm still playing with all my paper choices. :)

I am loving your blog. I have learned so much already. I have been using Papertrey stampers select white and Palette Noir ink. So far, I have had good results. I am still new to the Copic markers and have alot to learn.

I'm also very new to Copics - only have 4 so far, but I do love them! I've only tried using them on Stampin' Up whisper white, which looked good, but I didn't do a lot of detail work so I can't comment on the paper pilling. I also used SU! chocolate chip dye ink with the markers and they looked great together. I'm looking forward to using these markers more and more!

Good luck with your blog! You're starting with a wonderful following already!

First I have to say that I love your blog and learn something new every time I come here..........thank you!

I have only used SU Whisper White but have been looking for Georgia Pacific to try. I am going to do the test to see how it stands up though. For inks I have used Brilliance, Ancient Page and Adirondack with ok results with all of them.

Great info! I haven't yet tried your tests, but from my own testing my preferred combination is Papertrey Ink white cardstock and VersaFine black ink. I've tried the Adirondack and even Distress Ink as someone suggested but I don't find them dark or juicy enough.

I am a new Copic user...imagine being a stamper and just learning about this wonderful medium! The first time I colored with my markers, I wasn't concerned about the ink or the cardstock...what a mistake!! Because of your blog, I can now stamp and color with confidence. I currently use Adirondack ink and PaperTrey cardstock.

I've had my Copics for a week now & have been experimenting on various surfaces (acetate, acryllic, glass & paper. I did the paper test & was impressed with the different looks on different papers. I'm just having way too much fun with my Copics. I'm so thankful you have this blog & I am learning so much here.

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I am the North American Product Director for Copic Markers, working at Imagination International, Inc. I have written 4 books on coloring with Copics in conjunction with Colleen Schaan. I used to design stamps for Our Craft Lounge. The things I post on this blog are my personal opinions or techniques I have come across over the years- I will try to give credit where credit is due. These ramblings do not necessarily reflect the general opinions of Copic Markers/Imagination International Inc.
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Copic Glossary

ABS/Airbrush System- Copic Airbrush System. Works with either a compressor or Copic aircans. Uses either Sketch or Copic Markers. 1234TroubleshootingAlcohol Markers- Copic markers are alcohol (ethanol) based dye markers, that are known for being low-odor and giving smooth, vibrant colors. Since they are a dye, they will fade in bright lights, but they are acid free on most surfaces. Anything with alcohol in it will react with these inks. Any Copic marker type is refillable with replaceable tips. They will not cause paper to pill when going over it many times, nor will they dissolve photocopies.

Color Saturation- This is the first digit on a color name. Colors that are 00's, 10's, or 20's will be more vibrant (B05, G16, R29), while colors that are in the 70's, 80's or 90's have more gray added (B95, BG78, G94) and are closer to the neutral/earthy end of the color spectrum. Note: E (Earth) markers don't necessarily follow this rule.

Color Group- A sequential group of colors within one color family with the same first digit (i.e. E30, E31, E33, E34, E35, E37, E39) where numbers ending in 0 are the lightest and 9 is the darkest, also called Natural Blending Group

Copic Certification- These are classes for teachers, store owners, or designers who want to learn techniques and advanced tips on using Copic markers, Airbrushing, etc. for papercrafting. Each class is about 7 hrs, and will be held regionally. Check here for listings of upcoming classes.

Spica Glitter Pens - also called atyou Spica pens. These fun, pigment based pens are filled with micro glass flakes, giving a very subtle, elegant sparkle. Keep stored flat, though if they are giving you troubles, try storing them point down overnite.

Various Ink- Also called Refill Ink or Re-inkers. Each bottle holds 25 cc's of ink. 322 colors available, empty bottle for mixing custom colors also available. Great for making alcohol ink effects, such as Faux Stone or covering large areas. When you see streaking in your work it's time to refill. You can refill directly from your bottle of ink, or you can use a booster needle. Try not to overfill.For refilling dry markers:Ciao- add 1 to 1.5 cc's ink Sketch- 2 cc's Copic 2-3 cc's Wide 3-4 cc's

Using this site for Classes

The content from each post is intended as tutorials and directions as well as useful information. If you would like to use these tutorials in a workshop you are more than welcome to, just give credit to this blog site and other suppliers mentioned in each post.

Thank You!

Marianne

Color Disclaimer

Colors on the screen do not match colors printed in color charts, and neither will match the marker colors in real life. To get a feel of what the colors will look like it's best if you get an actual color swatch.

To request a printed color chart, general catalog, Stamping with Copic Brochure, or Airbrushing with Copic Brochure you can e-mail orders@copicmarker.com (remember, printed charts aren't accurate)

Save a tree, get it digital!For digital copies of the above brochures please look through the Copic Library. Don't see what you need? e-mail me at marianne@copicmarker.com

Check the library also for refilling guides, airbrushing set-ups, and other useful literature.

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Books by Marianne Walker

These books are stand alone guides for anyone who wants to learn more tricks for coloring with their markers. All images to color are in the back of the book, along with color charts and guides. Each book is printed in English and Español SRP $9.95

Shadows & Shading: A beginner's guide to lighting placementThis book is for teaching you where to accurately put shadows and highlights when coloring with any medium. Includes clear lighting guides to help you plan where to place your shadows & highlights. Distributed by Copic/Imagination International, Inc.