okcanuck wrote:I see the NRA is back on facebook today. Fucking cowards went off it since saturday because they knew they couldn't come up with any excuses for their stance on the right for everyone to own any weapon they want including automatic weapons. Morons.

okcanuck wrote:I see the NRA is back on facebook today. Fucking cowards went off it since saturday because they knew they couldn't come up with any excuses for their stance on the right for everyone to own any weapon they want including automatic weapons. Morons.

Why are they required to host a forum for the anti gun nuts to vent?

Anti-gun nuts might be a bit highly sensitive of you Topper. They are just people who want better gun control, especially on the human killing machine firearms. Better screening and education to would be buyer. Most of these people have no issues with gun ownership for sport of the TRUE gun enthusiast. It's incidents like the Conneticut one where a mother buys 4 highly powerful human killing firearms and is completely fucking irresponsible on the security of them. It's because of the irresponsible ownership of these guns, the black market trading of them is why BETTER GUN CONTROL IS FUCKING IMPORTANT.A son with mental health issues just had to open up a cubboard, load up, pop a bullet in her mom while she sleeps, drives to a school and goes on a rampage. It's that simple, the Americans have displayed with they yearly statistic averaging 10,000 deaths by guns that they do in fact need proper, stricter rules just to protect them from themselves. The lax gun control rules down in the states is the only real threat and terrorist to the Homeland of America.

"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? - Plastics." - The Graduate

I cannot for the life of me understand why every one is not behind this gun control. So much pain and anguish, loss of children's life and then to insult them and suggest things are OK as they are is unfathomable. People putting their own needs before the desire to protect the children and indeed any one

I watched Pier Morgan last night and he had a chap on that was supporting more guns, including arming teachers, and the first thought that went through my mind was how come this guy passed the test allowing him to carry a gun. He was a live example of a failure of the system.

Another chap, same program, raised the point of Israel. A country in the very midst of terror and blood shed has a far far more serious gun licensing system. To carry a gun there needs to be a psychiatric test, a 60 day delay and then you're given 60 bullets and that's it for life .... 60 bullets! one gun. Heck you can only use one at a time.

Now i know the hunters are going to say what about us, but if you want or need to hunt, and why not. to save lives could you not just fore go the need to have the gun in your home and have it in a central lock up. I new a girl that had the side of her face blown off when she was about 12, her and her friend just "Looking at Dads shot gun" Well Dad had forgotten to take the shells out. It shouldn't happen, it was an accident but you try going through any day and see how many mishaps you have. The problem is a mishap with a gun can be fatal... and for what ?

Fred wrote:The problem is a mishap with a gun can be fatal... and for what ?

To protect themselves from tyranny as bestowed in the Bill of Rights.

You never know when the government will be spying on them, increasing taxes to much, starting wars without a declaration, give unreasonable searches at places like airports. Imagine if the government gave the president the power to kill US citizens or detain them without trial?

If the government ever did these things, then the gun owners would rise up and overthrow them and put a new government in place. An armed assortment of random individuals militia protects the citizenry.

Fred wrote:The problem is a mishap with a gun can be fatal... and for what ?

To protect themselves from tyranny as bestowed in the Bill of Rights.

You never know when the government will be spying on them, increasing taxes to much, starting wars without a declaration, give unreasonable searches at places like airports. Imagine if the government gave the president the power to kill US citizens or detain them without trial?

If the government ever did these things, then the gun owners would rise up and overthrow them and put a new government in place. An armed assortment of random individuals militia protects the citizenry.

Fred wrote:The problem is a mishap with a gun can be fatal... and for what ?

To protect themselves from tyranny as bestowed in the Bill of Rights.

You never know when the government will be spying on them, increasing taxes to much, starting wars without a declaration, give unreasonable searches at places like airports. Imagine if the government gave the president the power to kill US citizens or detain them without trial?

If the government ever did these things, then the gun owners would rise up and overthrow them and put a new government in place. An armed assortment of random individuals militia protects the citizenry.

Sure let them tell that to the parents who will not have their children around this Christmas, or the girl that spent years going through plastic surgery after plastic surgery .... well your "inconvenience is all for the good " just in case we need to rise up and rid our self of tyranny. There are better more effective ways to deal with tyrants then resorting to shoot the mudder fukka.

I have to say I was a big fan of George Carlin and now Bill Maher. Carlins said how come in the USA if we have a problem the only discourse we can have is by declaring war on it. The war against drugs, the war against crime and as george say it's the only country that has mention of rockets and bombs in it's national anthem.

RoyalDude wrote:Anti-gun nuts might be a bit highly sensitive of you Topper. They are just people who want better gun control, especially on the human killing machine firearms. Better screening and education to would be buyer. Most of these people have no issues with gun ownership for sport of the TRUE gun enthusiast. It's incidents like the Conneticut one where a mother buys 4 highly powerful human killing firearms and is completely fucking irresponsible on the security of them. It's because of the irresponsible ownership of these guns, the black market trading of them is why BETTER GUN CONTROL IS FUCKING IMPORTANT.A son with mental health issues just had to open up a cubboard, load up, pop a bullet in her mom while she sleeps, drives to a school and goes on a rampage. It's that simple, the Americans have displayed with they yearly statistic averaging 10,000 deaths by guns that they do in fact need proper, stricter rules just to protect them from themselves. The lax gun control rules down in the states is the only real threat and terrorist to the Homeland of America.

Y'know Dude,I weep for the children of Sandy Hook, but good gawd man YOU are coming across as a blubbering pussy.

There is a reason boatloads of soldiers have not yet landed on north America ..pretty large army lives here. If not, children and innocence would die in that sceario also..government has to respect its citizenry or else it wouldn't..

RoyalDude wrote:Anti-gun nuts might be a bit highly sensitive of you Topper. They are just people who want better gun control, especially on the human killing machine firearms. Better screening and education to would be buyer. Most of these people have no issues with gun ownership for sport of the TRUE gun enthusiast. It's incidents like the Conneticut one where a mother buys 4 highly powerful human killing firearms and is completely fucking irresponsible on the security of them. It's because of the irresponsible ownership of these guns, the black market trading of them is why BETTER GUN CONTROL IS FUCKING IMPORTANT.A son with mental health issues just had to open up a cubboard, load up, pop a bullet in her mom while she sleeps, drives to a school and goes on a rampage. It's that simple, the Americans have displayed with they yearly statistic averaging 10,000 deaths by guns that they do in fact need proper, stricter rules just to protect them from themselves. The lax gun control rules down in the states is the only real threat and terrorist to the Homeland of America.

Y'know Dude,I weep for the children of Sandy Hook, but good gawd man YOU are coming across as a blubbering pussy.

The National Rifle Association of America is made up of four million moms and dads, sons and daughters – and we were shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news of the horrific and senseless murders in Newtown.

Out of respect for the families, and as a matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer and a full investigation of the facts before commenting.

The NRA is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again.

That's quite strking, 4 million members, heck in the great scheme of things that's nothing ...probably more Boy Scouts. How do they hold the entire country hostage, how can they afford such a strong lobby to pull the strings. That's surpised me !

Fred wrote:That's quite strking, 4 million members, heck in the great scheme of things that's nothing ...probably more Boy Scouts. How do they hold the entire country hostage, how can they afford such a strong lobby to pull the strings. That's surpised me !

Thats right Fred . 4 million members in the NRA represents 1.2 % of the population, yet their lobbying with the politicians is one of the best in Washington. It takes a shit-load of money to accomplish that . Where do you think a majority of that money comes from? Thats right the weapons manufacturers. The NRA lobby in Washington has more to do with the almighty dollar than it has to do with their 2nd amendment rights.

The fact that the NRA decided to shut down their web-site and facebook page tells me that they cant stand the heat when they are being criticized about their stance on assault rifles . I'm not one of those crazy anti-gun people either. I've bagged my share of moose and deer. Assault weapons with 30-100 rounds of ammo are not needed to protect yourself.

okcanuck wrote:Assault weapons with 30-100 rounds of ammo are not needed to protect yourself.

No, they are needed to killing the most amount of people you can in the shortest amount of time. That's why it makes total sense to sell them to the public.

Ya just know that the Gun Control System is completely flawed and in need of stricter liscencing when gangsters with rap sheets longer than the Great Wall China somehow miraculously are always in possession of the latest and greatest assault weaponry. Geez, how did they get them?

"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? - Plastics." - The Graduate

LMAO...are those crocodile tears Doc. Doc, we all know you pretty good now, you are the resident John Wayne, Pat Buchanon, Pat O'Reilly of the CC, with the blue suit, red tie, white shirt standard Republican get up. We all know you would have gone down on Charlton Heston in the day if given the opportunity. If it came down to a choice of you saving a child or protecting the act of the right to bear arms, we all know what you'd protect.

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"I just want to say one word to you. Just one word. Are you listening? - Plastics." - The Graduate