The 8300 isn't out yet so I doubt that you can find one. As for the 8800, it is only out on the Cingular network. You can always buy the device and then unlock it yourself, however, it will have the Cingular branding on it.

As for buying on Amazon, I think you have o buy a service plan as well.

The 8300 isn't out yet so I doubt that you can find one. As for the 8800, it is only out on the Cingular network. You can always buy the device and then unlock it yourself, however, it will have the Cingular branding on it.

As for buying on Amazon, I think you have o buy a service plan as well.

Have you looked on eBay?

I haven't. Is it reliable? Can I have a cingular phone without a voice plan?