ok so these two hands were pulled from my most recent session right after a big loosing session where I had KK get beat 3 times. so I guess you could say I was playing my pairs quite differently than I normally would..

A pretty big fish opened the pot to .30, 3 callers, I 3bet to $1, everyone comes along (if done again I would have made my 3bet bigger, by the time It got to me the pot was already 1.35, making my $1 3 bet pretty small)

Flop

the flop was wet. a lot of straight draws, flush draws, possible sets, possible 2 pair. at this point the spr was quite low though. I was the first to act and for some reason I just said F it and shoved.

Not a lot of thought was put into it and even after reviewing the hand im still not sure whether or not it was the right play..

Hand 2

Preflop

I was dealt aces utg so i opened for what i think was pretty standard size and got 2 huge fish to call behind.

Flop

The flop came decent nothing that could really scare my aces, it was checked to me and I made a huge over bet (honestly don't remember doing this, probably wouldn't have done this again. instead I would have just potted it.) Luckily I'm dealing with a huge fish and he calls, the other villain folds.

Turn

Turn card wasn't great but again this was a huge fish so I just shoved

I ended up getting all of villain's chips but I still don't think this was the right line to take.

I want your guys thoughts on how you think I played the hands and how the correct way to play them would have been.

For the first hand you’re right the 3bet pre was definitely small. would have made it 2-2.20 or so after so many callers. reason is there’s already a lot of money in the pot and since no one behind you 3 bet already you can pretty much rule out AA, KK and maybe AK out of the callers ranges. you want to fold out or heavily charge Ax and Kx hands that may out flop you. in your position i would have a pretty wide 3bet squeeze range if the table you’re playing at often goes very multiway after an Ep open. It just means people are calling much looser and you can steal dead money in the pot pre flop, or take it from a sizable Cbet on the flop since you have a heavy range advantage as the PFA. As for the shove, it worked out this time but i think as you move up in stakes or find tougher tables it probably isn’t ideal. if i was playing i wouldn’t be able to call with anything that you’re beating, i’m folding anything less than 2 pair of MAYBE. straight +flush draw. your opponents definitely have 77, 66, and some TT in their range. after a few pre flop callers and small theee bet they also have 98s, 67s, maybe T7 or T6s as well. while you will most likely fold out over cards or weak draws i think to extract value more often the two improvements would be to 3 bet bigger pre, and then a 3/4pot bet on flop would be solid recommendation. tough for your opponents to profitably float over cards in a big pot like that when they aren’t very deep. would love more input/critiques on my thoughts from others as well though.

For your second hand the same flop issue occurs. Your 3.5x overbet on the flop is normally folding out a lot of the villains continuing range when i think to get more value you should be betting to keep worse hands in. something like 3/4pot - pot should suffice since the board is wet. when the king comes on the turn now there are a lot of two pairs that get there and it completed a possible OESD. the way i think about hands as i play is to imagine the hand happening 1000 different times and finding ideal situations to perform all different actions. this run out isn’t great for aces and getting multiple streets for value will be tough. so if it was me i think i’d 3/4 flop bet, check turn and evaluate river (where i’d mostly likely have to check call on the offsuit 9).

that’s my two cents but i’m by no means a pro, hope my thoughts helped or can bring some conversation. cheers.

Last edited by ozeeum; 09-19-2018 at 05:12 PM.
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please next time when you put the hands put 1) and your thought of the hand because, i was writtin a lot and then i saw you make a description of what you though lol.

1) ye, the sqz was small. and its seems you were really tilt, because you shove. I dont know what to say about the hand because there is no more analysis lol.

2) why bro, you seems like a completly creazy fish ( its what i thought i was playing on your table), ofc you are not a fish, but idk why you do that, you seems you have os many troubles controlling your mindset, i recommend you, to breath deep when you get a cooler, or you loose some hand, im a completly TILT guy who loose a lot of money cause of it. about the hand, when he calls he had complelty a FD, fish cant fold a FD. its okey your shove ott, and he calls is bad ofc.

Im not judging im trying to help you, you are going to loose a lot of money because your tilt issues. And im only saw 2 hands.