Principia Discordia

Title: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: ChaosAdvocate on September 11, 2015, 04:03:59 pm

Most orderly place in the world, why? Compared to all other nations there have been no civil wars, major revolts or armed rebellions, significant change ever in history there. Only the expansion/establishment of more order. Even when its people get very frustrated with their government they have never revolted there bigly aside from a few strikes easily broken using military workforce in the past. Any idea why? Is it like the stronghold/headquarters of order or something? Maybe thats why it was also seen as the "dumping ground of choice"/containment facility of choice to British authorities for those who were more chaotic or defy the order.

Its what makes it extremely boring, needs more discord + chaos. If anybody is looking for a concentrated headquarters of order to bombard with chaos in workings, here is your best choice. Feel free to pump as much entropy/chaos as you want if any of you know how to do that. A mass murder of boredom occurs.

1) You're only counting the white settlers' history.2) You're only counting the white settlers' conflicts with other white settlers.3) Australia as you understand it has existed for a much shorter time than literally any other human-occupied space, since you're not counting the actual history of all human occupation of the continent.4) You're ignoring Canada.

The Australian frontier wars were a series of conflicts that were fought between Indigenous Australians and European settlers that spanned a total of 146 years. The first fighting took place several months after the landing of the First Fleet in 26 January 1788 and the last clashes occurred as late as 1934.[citation needed] The most common estimates of fatalities in the fighting are at least 20,000 Indigenous Australians and between 2,000 and 2,500 Europeans. However, recent scholarship on the frontier wars in what is now the state of Queensland indicates that Indigenous fatalities may have been significantly higher. Indeed, while battles and massacres occurred in a number of locations across Australia, they were particularly bloody in Queensland, owing to its comparatively larger pre-contact Indigenous population.

Also Australia has had several significant periods of political unrest and rebellions, and is a country where bushrangers, ie highwaymen and outlaws, are such a large part of the national culture that the government has banned films about them in the past and exerted pressure on publishers of literature related to them.

1) You're only counting the white settlers' history.2) You're only counting the white settlers' conflicts with other white settlers.3) Australia as you understand it has existed for a much shorter time than literally any other human-occupied space, since you're not counting the actual history of all human occupation of the continent.4) You're ignoring Canada.

This though for Canada?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebellions_of_1837

The Australian frontier wars were a series of conflicts that were fought between Indigenous Australians and European settlers that spanned a total of 146 years. The first fighting took place several months after the landing of the First Fleet in 26 January 1788 and the last clashes occurred as late as 1934.[citation needed] The most common estimates of fatalities in the fighting are at least 20,000 Indigenous Australians and between 2,000 and 2,500 Europeans. However, recent scholarship on the frontier wars in what is now the state of Queensland indicates that Indigenous fatalities may have been significantly higher. Indeed, while battles and massacres occurred in a number of locations across Australia, they were particularly bloody in Queensland, owing to its comparatively larger pre-contact Indigenous population.

Also Australia has had several significant periods of political unrest and rebellions, and is a country where bushrangers, ie highwaymen and outlaws, are such a large part of the national culture that the government has banned films about them in the past and exerted pressure on publishers of literature related to them.

Weren't the frontier wars more of a result of colonization though? One country invading another thus a war caused by another country and not a conflict from within? And now most adays though they have draconian gun laws and this (http://theaimn.com/the-slide-away-from-democracy/) which just will not budge no matter what .

I was more referring to armed rebellions like the French Revolution or similar.

I like how he didn't address the fact that his questionable observation hinges on an inherently racist worldview.

Nope I'm saying that it was an invasion, a war done by one country on another. It was caused by outside factors and was not a rebellion war from within. You misunderstood and jumped to assumptions of what I'm trying to communicate, in this thread I was referring to conflicts that happen within and not an imperialist invasion ignited by one nation against another. Infact many have issues interpreting what I try to communicate but its not my fault.

Its not my fault if I do not have much knowledge on the history prior but what I do know is they lived pretty simple(not necessarily in a bad way). Was not taught much in my education aside from the fact the natives were invaded and are the rightful heirs of the land. They lived in tribes governed by the eldest people so there was very little need to revolt, they managed to get their system right before invasion.

And WTF directing this statement towards someone who would love to see racists shot at or punished for their beliefs? About the racism: Racism and Nazism are inseparable. To fight racism is to fight the exact same enemy defeated in the second world war. The approach to racists must be war-like as much as possible, even if it means deploying the entire ground and air forces of a military to eliminate them or capture their land(property they live on). People with those beliefs do not equal "human" and should not be allowed to even have them as an opinion. Having racism/racist ideology as an opinion should = state of war.

You are only counting "disorder" as conflicts between people who look the same. You are assuming with no evidence that the locals lived in some kind of pre-contact utopia without major conflicts.

If you don't understand how these two things are racist, your definition of racism is broken and you need to educate your dumb ass.

Not really racist if my intention isn't racism, infact "race" is a social construct and does not exist. I count disorder as whenever a "social order" breaks down and there is a revolt against a government. Racism is to intentionally hate/discriminate somebody for the colour they were born with.

You are only counting "disorder" as conflicts between people who look the same. You are assuming with no evidence that the locals lived in some kind of pre-contact utopia without major conflicts.

If you don't understand how these two things are racist, your definition of racism is broken and you need to educate your dumb ass.

Racist if my intention isn't racism, infact "race" is a social construct and does not exist. I count disorder as whenever a "social order" breaks down and there is a revolt against a government.All racists should be lined up and shot or punished.

Are you saying you need help getting lined up and shot? I'm having issues interpreting what you're trying to communicate.

Nope I am not racist in intentions actually, all humans are equal. Just because I do not know some history does not make me "racist". What about you? Do you know their history?

Disorder in this context refers to a breakdown of a social order, a revolt from the inside of ANY social order.

You are only counting "disorder" as conflicts between people who look the same. You are assuming with no evidence that the locals lived in some kind of pre-contact utopia without major conflicts.

If you don't understand how these two things are racist, your definition of racism is broken and you need to educate your dumb ass.

Racist if my intention isn't racism, infact "race" is a social construct and does not exist. I count disorder as whenever a "social order" breaks down and there is a revolt against a government.All racists should be lined up and shot or punished.

Are you saying you need help getting lined up and shot? I'm having issues interpreting what you're trying to communicate.

Nope I am not racist in intentions actually, all humans are equal. Just because I do not know some history does not make me "racist". What about you? Do you know their history?

Disorder in this context refers to a breakdown of a social order, a revolt from the inside of ANY social order.

So your a murderous totalitarian in a purely egalitarian sort of way?

Go fuck yourself.

I was just expressing my anger of how I feel for them, because it is greatly offensive to associate me with those who are against what I stand for. Its like saying "go die in a hole" but to someone else in a conversation. In practice I believe hate speech isn't free speech and should just be charged with fines/jail time.

2nd type of people I dislike just below that are staunch traditionalists who try to bring back rigidness of some of the old ways socially.

Oh! If I sell a bunch of turquoise jewelry and prayer wheel art and feather headdresses and talk about how perfect native american spirituality is without actually knowing anything about the history of native americans, I'm still not racist?

Mongolians are all really good at fighting, I bet! I mean, I don't know anything about Mongolia besides Ghengis Khan was one, but I'm sure that one example totally applies to everyone who lives there now. That's not racist, right?

Oh! If I sell a bunch of turquoise jewelry and prayer wheel art and feather headdresses and talk about how perfect native american spirituality is without actually knowing anything about the history of native americans, I'm still not racist?

Not being intentionally racist but atleast you could just walk up to someone who does it and tell them what they should change in order to not offend others instead of bashing them and treating them like they are intentionally being hateful.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 11, 2015, 07:50:57 pm

You are only counting "disorder" as conflicts between people who look the same. You are assuming with no evidence that the locals lived in some kind of pre-contact utopia without major conflicts.

If you don't understand how these two things are racist, your definition of racism is broken and you need to educate your dumb ass.

Racist if my intention isn't racism, infact "race" is a social construct and does not exist. I count disorder as whenever a "social order" breaks down and there is a revolt against a government.All racists should be lined up and shot or punished.

Are you saying you need help getting lined up and shot? I'm having issues interpreting what you're trying to communicate.

Nope I am not racist in intentions actually, all humans are equal. Just because I do not know some history does not make me "racist". What about you? Do you know their history?

Disorder in this context refers to a breakdown of a social order, a revolt from the inside of ANY social order.

So your a murderous totalitarian in a purely egalitarian sort of way?

Go fuck yourself.

I was just expressing my anger of how I feel for them, because it is greatly offensive to associate me with those who are against what I stand for.

Oh! I see.

So you're a limp-dick with murderous fantasies of totalitarian authority.

That or you're backtracking like crazy so you can continue your ridiculous race baiting and pretentious historical speculation in comfort.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Hoopla on September 11, 2015, 07:52:58 pm

Oh! If I sell a bunch of turquoise jewelry and prayer wheel art and feather headdresses and talk about how perfect native american spirituality is without actually knowing anything about the history of native americans, I'm still not racist?

Not being intentionally racist but atleast you could just walk up to someone who does it and tell them what they should change in order to not offend others instead of bashing them and treating them like they are intentionally being hateful.

Definitely shouldn't offend racists. You're right about that.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 11, 2015, 08:16:55 pm

This thread really cleared up why the whole "drop the soap" joke got so elaborate so quickly. Chaos Advocate possibly has a subconscious power fixation and is probably "anti-racist" , despite apparent total ignorance, in order to seem egalitarian and acceptable to others.

I mean that's possible. What I think is really going on here is newspag be like

This thread really cleared up why the whole "drop the soap" joke got so elaborate so quickly. Chaos Advocate possibly has a subconscious power fixation and is probably "anti-racist" , despite apparent total ignorance, in order to seem egalitarian and acceptable to others.

I mean that's possible. What I think is really going on here is newspag be like

I'M NOT RACIST!! :treefucker:

Nope, I hate it because it goes against my beliefs. Anti-Racism is part of my ideological beliefs. Racism = Nazism. Fighting against it = A Sacred War. NOBODY wants to be discriminated on the basis of what looks they were born with, anybody who does is stupid so why would I?

This thread really cleared up why the whole "drop the soap" joke got so elaborate so quickly. Chaos Advocate possibly has a subconscious power fixation and is probably "anti-racist" , despite apparent total ignorance, in order to seem egalitarian and acceptable to others.

I mean that's possible. What I think is really going on here is newspag be like

I'M NOT RACIST!! :treefucker:

Nope, I hate it because it goes against my beliefs. Anti-Racism is part of my ideological beliefs. Racism = Nazism. Fighting against it = A Sacred War. NOBODY wants to be discriminated on the basis of what looks they were born with, anybody who does is stupid so why would I?

And yet you say that "race is a social construct." Which it may be to YOU. To people on the pointy end of the pitchfork, it's very real indeed. You're basically saying that all the shit that happens to them isn't real.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 12, 2015, 05:04:25 am

This thread really cleared up why the whole "drop the soap" joke got so elaborate so quickly. Chaos Advocate possibly has a subconscious power fixation and is probably "anti-racist" , despite apparent total ignorance, in order to seem egalitarian and acceptable to others.

I mean that's possible. What I think is really going on here is newspag be like

I'M NOT RACIST!! :treefucker:

Nope, I hate it because it goes against my beliefs. Anti-Racism is part of my ideological beliefs. Racism = Nazism. Fighting against it = A Sacred War. NOBODY wants to be discriminated on the basis of what looks they were born with, anybody who does is stupid so why would I?

And yet you say that "race is a social construct." Which it may be to YOU. To people on the pointy end of the pitchfork, it's very real indeed. You're basically saying that all the shit that happens to them isn't real.

Right fucking on!

There is a sort of racism that is on the other end of the spectrum called "universal integration" among other things by its detractors.

The "liberal" formula of racism is seen by many minorities to basically be an attempt to dilute the meaning of race and culture and make it all a nice homogeneous construct, the white man's nice, homogeneous construct.

Where one extreme tells you that your race and cultural heritage makes you an inferior, the other extreme tells you those things aren't really real and once you accept that you may now get on the bus. Both are horseshit and so is your "anti-racism" Chaos Advocate. You just don't see it because it seems reasonable TO YOU.

This thread really cleared up why the whole "drop the soap" joke got so elaborate so quickly. Chaos Advocate possibly has a subconscious power fixation and is probably "anti-racist" , despite apparent total ignorance, in order to seem egalitarian and acceptable to others.

I mean that's possible. What I think is really going on here is newspag be like

I'M NOT RACIST!! :treefucker:

Nope, I hate it because it goes against my beliefs. Anti-Racism is part of my ideological beliefs. Racism = Nazism. Fighting against it = A Sacred War. NOBODY wants to be discriminated on the basis of what looks they were born with, anybody who does is stupid so why would I?

And yet you say that "race is a social construct." Which it may be to YOU. To people on the pointy end of the pitchfork, it's very real indeed. You're basically saying that all the shit that happens to them isn't real.

Right fucking on!

There is a sort of racism that is on the other end of the spectrum called "universal integration" among other things by its detractors.

The "liberal" formula of racism is seen by many minorities to basically be an attempt to dilute the meaning of race and culture and make it all a nice homogeneous construct, the white man's nice, homogeneous construct.

Where one extreme tells you that your race and cultural heritage makes you an inferior, the other extreme tells you those things aren't really real and once you accept that you may now get on the bus. Both are horseshit and so is your "anti-racism" Chaos Advocate. You just don't see it because it seems reasonable TO YOU.

And what happens if we dismantle even the current culture? Dismantle all cultures and create a completely new one meant for all? Destroy/smash the old world, its ways and ways of thinking completely.

Finished school already* + planning on joining in any protests within the future. I consider myself a freeman/sovereign. Here we do not have libertarians but luckily we have libertarian/democratic-socialists and anarchists who are just like Australia's equivalent of libertarians in the U.S.

Which doesn't explain actually because I've always had issues with authority as long as I have been alive. I have just gotten more stealthy and found ways to make sure I never get caught everytime I do some "mischief" when in school for example. Analyze personalities/emotions of people in it to collect info > Check surroundings to make sure its clear > Do. I've remained the same and will hate authority figures as always. What I am disgusted at is the fact they put order above personal freedom, disarmed people into a nation of victims. Current system sucks like shit and I'm especially glad its economy is going downhill, hope it collapses. Even if it means possibly becoming like Somalia.

Freedom of the press, freedom of movement, freedom to privacy, free speech and freedom to bear arms is gone. Fascism is here in all 1st world countries:

And promise me when you get your dumb ass shot you'll do it on camera. And make sure to get some blood splatter on the mask, too. It's no good for the propaganda machine if you don't get the mask bloody.

And promise me when you get your dumb ass shot you'll do it on camera. And make sure to get some blood splatter on the mask, too. It's no good for the propaganda machine if you don't get the mask bloody.

Turn off corporate media and tune into InfoWars.com, X22 Report, on youtube and WhatReallyHappened.com

This thread really cleared up why the whole "drop the soap" joke got so elaborate so quickly. Chaos Advocate possibly has a subconscious power fixation and is probably "anti-racist" , despite apparent total ignorance, in order to seem egalitarian and acceptable to others.

I mean that's possible. What I think is really going on here is newspag be like

I'M NOT RACIST!! :treefucker:

Nope, I hate it because it goes against my beliefs. Anti-Racism is part of my ideological beliefs. Racism = Nazism. Fighting against it = A Sacred War. NOBODY wants to be discriminated on the basis of what looks they were born with, anybody who does is stupid so why would I?

And yet you say that "race is a social construct." Which it may be to YOU. To people on the pointy end of the pitchfork, it's very real indeed. You're basically saying that all the shit that happens to them isn't real.

Right fucking on!

There is a sort of racism that is on the other end of the spectrum called "universal integration" among other things by its detractors.

The "liberal" formula of racism is seen by many minorities to basically be an attempt to dilute the meaning of race and culture and make it all a nice homogeneous construct, the white man's nice, homogeneous construct.

Where one extreme tells you that your race and cultural heritage makes you an inferior, the other extreme tells you those things aren't really real and once you accept that you may now get on the bus. Both are horseshit and so is your "anti-racism" Chaos Advocate. You just don't see it because it seems reasonable TO YOU.

And what happens if we dismantle even the current culture? Dismantle all cultures and create a completely new one meant for all? Destroy/smash the old world, its ways and ways of thinking completely.

How would you propose to "dismantle all cultures"? Cultures are composed of people and their ways of life. Are those not then what you must seek to "destroy/smash"?

Do people not have the right to their culture in your mind? Have you managed to experience ALL cultures to the point of expertise sufficient to judge and compose a replacement that all would willingly accept? If they won't accept it would you impose your vaguely imagined, but somehow universally acceptable, replacement against their will?

I'm guessing that you're Australian from your other jabber. I'm also guessing you don't spend a lot of time with people of the remaining indigenous population. You're simply proposing what they, and uncountable other cultures, went through on an absurdly large scale. Ask them about it mate.

Also...

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Current system sucks like shit and I'm especially glad its economy is going downhill, hope it collapses. Even if it means possibly becoming like Somalia.

For real? Your rape jokes are in better taste. :kingmeh:

You surely don't realize it, but you're an ignorant fool and as programmed as the people you look down upon for being programed.

This thread really cleared up why the whole "drop the soap" joke got so elaborate so quickly. Chaos Advocate possibly has a subconscious power fixation and is probably "anti-racist" , despite apparent total ignorance, in order to seem egalitarian and acceptable to others.

I mean that's possible. What I think is really going on here is newspag be like

I'M NOT RACIST!! :treefucker:

Nope, I hate it because it goes against my beliefs. Anti-Racism is part of my ideological beliefs. Racism = Nazism. Fighting against it = A Sacred War. NOBODY wants to be discriminated on the basis of what looks they were born with, anybody who does is stupid so why would I?

And yet you say that "race is a social construct." Which it may be to YOU. To people on the pointy end of the pitchfork, it's very real indeed. You're basically saying that all the shit that happens to them isn't real.

Right fucking on!

There is a sort of racism that is on the other end of the spectrum called "universal integration" among other things by its detractors.

The "liberal" formula of racism is seen by many minorities to basically be an attempt to dilute the meaning of race and culture and make it all a nice homogeneous construct, the white man's nice, homogeneous construct.

Where one extreme tells you that your race and cultural heritage makes you an inferior, the other extreme tells you those things aren't really real and once you accept that you may now get on the bus. Both are horseshit and so is your "anti-racism" Chaos Advocate. You just don't see it because it seems reasonable TO YOU.

And what happens if we dismantle even the current culture? Dismantle all cultures and create a completely new one meant for all? Destroy/smash the old world, its ways and ways of thinking completely.

How would you propose to "dismantle all cultures"? Cultures are composed of people and their ways of life. Are those not then what you must seek to "destroy/smash"?

Do people not have the right to their culture in your mind? Have you managed to experience ALL cultures to the point of expertise sufficient to judge and compose a replacement that all would willingly accept? If they won't accept it would you impose your vaguely imagined, but somehow universally acceptable, replacement against their will?

I'm guessing that you're Australian from your other jabber. I'm also guessing you don't spend a lot of time with people of the remaining indigenous population. You're simply proposing what they, and uncountable other cultures, went through on an absurdly large scale. Ask them about it mate.

Also...

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Current system sucks like shit and I'm especially glad its economy is going downhill, hope it collapses. Even if it means possibly becoming like Somalia.

For real? Your rape jokes are in better taste. :kingmeh:

You surely don't realize it, but you're an ignorant fool and as programmed as the people you look down upon for being programed.

For the Somalia part it is honestly better than living under Fascism or Corporate totalitarianism because you could still do what you want. Fact is we are becoming Fascist/Totalitarianism and the cause is that there is too much order. Things like the TPP, mass surveillance and etc are all coming in and not enough are doing anything against it.

Not suppressing but through mob/riot rule, cultural revolution. Create an attitude in many people or sponsor it of destroying everything old and replacing it with everything new. Possible take the best parts from all cultures and put them together with beneficial values?

I'm hoping a counterbalance will occur and the pendulum will swing so far in the other direction that we get total entropy/chaos for a time, enough to also nourish my emotional hunger(growing impatience) to see something really big occur with huge changes. Something new rising to take the old's place. Hope this period of order hurries up and die already. It really feels restless/extremely boring and meaningless that nothing big has happened yet. Maybe if trump(I oppose his political view but his a nice puppet for entropy to generate from) wins being radical enough, he does not seen to be the type who would be afraid to start/escalate to a WW3/Great War 2 or gets overthrown in a revolution anyway after messing up his country's economy enough. Fear of a WW3 happening declines as unmanned warfare and technology to nullify nukes develops.

Also there are not many you can meet at where I live, they are very rare but their culture is taken into account. So obviously I have no idea, people are a product of the conditions they live in.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 12, 2015, 04:48:53 pm

I'm kind of bummed that the Saturday I'm finally back in the country and we get a world-class moron is also the day that for some reason I volunteered to dress as a pirate and entertain small children all day at the watershed.

And promise me when you get your dumb ass shot you'll do it on camera. And make sure to get some blood splatter on the mask, too. It's no good for the propaganda machine if you don't get the mask bloody.

And nope in the case of a war I would be doing hit and run. The source of many problems today is that there is too much "order"/stability in the world. Get rid of it and many problems will be fixed by themselves. Fortunately trump is radical enough to not be afraid of escalating to a WW3/"Great War 2" or end up getting overthrown then starting a chain of puppet/friend powers getting overthrown when he destabilizes his country more if he wins. This time of stagnation needs to end and hopefully the pendulum swings in the other direction as much as possible when a counterbalance occurs in response to the unnaturally long period of stability.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 13, 2015, 07:15:23 am

And promise me when you get your dumb ass shot you'll do it on camera. And make sure to get some blood splatter on the mask, too. It's no good for the propaganda machine if you don't get the mask bloody.

And nope in the case of a war I would be doing hit and run. The source of many problems today is that there is too much "order"/stability in the world. Get rid of it and many problems will be fixed by themselves. Fortunately trump is radical enough to not be afraid of escalating to a WW3/"Great War 2" or end up getting overthrown then starting a chain of puppet/friend powers getting overthrown when he destabilizes his country more if he wins. This time of stagnation needs to end and hopefully the pendulum swings in the other direction as much as possible when a counterbalance occurs in response to the unnaturally long period of stability.

Why the edit? Did you drop your "sovereign citizen" status? Or is that one of your state secrets? Edited spagpost was an inside job!

And promise me when you get your dumb ass shot you'll do it on camera. And make sure to get some blood splatter on the mask, too. It's no good for the propaganda machine if you don't get the mask bloody.

And nope in the case of a war I would be doing hit and run. The source of many problems today is that there is too much "order"/stability in the world. Get rid of it and many problems will be fixed by themselves. Fortunately trump is radical enough to not be afraid of escalating to a WW3/"Great War 2" or end up getting overthrown then starting a chain of puppet/friend powers getting overthrown when he destabilizes his country more if he wins. This time of stagnation needs to end and hopefully the pendulum swings in the other direction as much as possible when a counterbalance occurs in response to the unnaturally long period of stability.

Why the edit? Did you drop your "sovereign citizen" status? Or is that one of your state secrets? Edited spagpost was an inside job!

Editation can't melt steel beams you know.

I saw the truth,and your cover-up.

That was terribleand so very, trulyreptilian of you.

It was irrelevant to the post and also it means you are someone who chooses not to consent to the state machine/corporation. They are a corporation and not run by the people/direct democracy. Its supposed to be optional to consent but these thugs won't allow it and can unlawfully break into your car for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsoUArgpo9s

How am I in "school" if I already no longer go there? Also its technically not called "sovereign citizen" but "freemen on the land". We are separate from the "sovereign citizen movement". Being someone who recognizes the fact that the government is a corporation registered in the U.S(http://www.peoplesmandate.iinet.net.au/Government_as_Foreign_corporation.html) and should not be able to force itself on us. Instead of libertarians like in the U.S you have libertarian/democratic-socialists and anarchists and they support gun ownership/closest to those who support it while the right-wing(Howard) are anti-gun and pro-surveillance. If it was libertarians I would also support them but they are even smaller and do not organize activism. The Far-Left of Australia pretty much fight for rights/act like U.S libertarians. They are Australia's equivalent of the U.S's libertarians, only difference that they believe in different things but both are pro-gun/close to pro-gun and anti-surveillance which is good anyway.

It was traditionally the far-left that was/is supposed to be pro-gun starting from the 1800s.

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; Any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated by force if necessary." -Karl Marx(https://defacingcurrency.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/marx_gun_control.jpg?w=620)

Says the weak little coward who has stockholm syndrome with your government/authority and fears change? I honestly cannot wait to see how people like you would react when the time the pendulum swings far to the other side were to happen(counterbalance against the big period of stability we've had).

Already celebrated the ukraine crisis happening, hope it escalates more. Planning to get confetti and organize a party for the next big thing that happens.

Says the weak little coward who has stockholm syndrome with your government/authority and fears change? I honestly cannot wait to see how people like you would react when the time the pendulum swings far to the other side were to happen(counterbalance against the big period of stability we've had).

Says the weak little coward who has stockholm syndrome with your government/authority and fears change? I honestly cannot wait to see how people like you would react when the time the pendulum swings far to the other side were to happen(counterbalance against the big period of stability we've had).

No opportunity to do so because people are all pacified cowards who have stockholm syndrome for their gov as of right now. Not caring even if all their freedoms were taken including the right to elect your oligarch. Maybe they would do something if their providers lost access to super-profit sources(third world sweatshops/resources) that allow them to afford stuff for them which make them comfortable without losing too much money.

I honestly cannot wait to see how people like you would react when the time the pendulum swings far to the other side were to happen(counterbalance against the big period of stability we've had).

Already celebrated the ukraine crisis happening, hope it escalates more. Planning to get confetti and organize a party for the next big thing that happens which will put an end to the stability age.

Says the weak little coward who has stockholm syndrome with your government/authority and fears change? I honestly cannot wait to see how people like you would react when the time the pendulum swings far to the other side were to happen(counterbalance against the big period of stability we've had).

No opportunity to do so because people are all pacified cowards who have stockholm syndrome for their gov as of right now. Not caring even if all their freedoms were taken including the right to elect your oligarch. Maybe they would do something if their providers lost access to super-profit sources(third world sweatshops/resources) that allow them to afford stuff for them which make them comfortable without losing too much money.

I honestly cannot wait to see how people like you would react when the time the pendulum swings far to the other side were to happen(counterbalance against the big period of stability we've had).

Already celebrated the ukraine crisis happening, hope it escalates more. Planning to get confetti and organize a party for the next big thing that happens which will put an end to the stability age.

You've had no fewer than nine chances to at least contribute.

If you're looking for something local to you, the Malaysians could sure as shit use some help stirring up shit with China.

Sorry ChaosAdvocate, I assumed you were a teenager because you whined about school in another thread and, well, to be honest it was the more charitable explanation than you being a moron.

It was intended to be a joke, not a "whine". I was not sure which thread to post it on since there is no option to do it on peanut gallery anymore.

And I am actually somebody who takes pleasure in some unusual or very radical change occurring. I find it extremely boring/unresting that none has occurred and it makes me more impulsive and more rabid in behaviours everytime I am not exposed to it within long periods of time. Eventually probably ending up in trying to stir something up. This is just how I am and its always been this way in my life.

Nope I simply hate all stability and tradition/things that try to tell me what to do. Everytime I see it I really do feel like tearing it apart which was the reason why I spontaneously cause trouble on purpose within my whole lifetime on some occasions. I want a stability/tradition-free society.

All tradition/order was made to be destroyed. Maximilien Robiespierre in the French Revolution hated order/tradition too and made a good effort in maintaining chaos/change and preventing stability from taking place. He did not give 1 fuck about what the side effects of the instability/"terror" on people were, focusing only on the change occurring.

Everytime there is a change I inherently find it entertaining or hilarious and it bores me that no radical change takes place still. I literally do take great pleasure and addiction in change/chaos occurring. Its more fun than watching sport or a WWE certainly. It IS a game/sport and the most fun one so far since history began, infact chaos/change is very addicting and makes you want to keep craving more. It creates adventure and meaning in everyone's lives, leads to progress and all problems being fixed.

What I am really annoyed is at the fact some people disagree that this world needs less order. That is the ONLY part I am "mad" about at some people. I hate oppositions to change that try to keep stability. Supporting those who want to ruin the fun, why not make the world a more interesting place?

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 13, 2015, 05:59:22 pm

See? A keen eye, some fortunate timing, a quick poem, and look how much more shitty the ignorant little racist motherfucker got.

Plenty of recruiting stations in Russia for people to go join the fighting in the Donbass. Hell, there's even one in London. And the counter-Russian militias aint exactly picky either (not when they're using people who idolise Oskar Dirlewanger).

Even easier to go to Syria. The Turkish border is so pourous it may as well be a sponge. From there you can pick up with any group you like, from the western-aligned FSA, to the recently betrayed YPG to the Islamic Front, Jabhat al-Nusra and of course ISIS.

Cain, this is most definitely the user we knew as "Lies" or "Lys". Check both IP addies. I think you'll be amused.

It is indeed our favorite meth-addled racist, back with a new mania.

Conspiracy theories again?

Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit. Until it causes living conditions in the first world to plummet to a point where people have trouble getting food or a house again, widespread starvation and poverty. One day mass strike in India already occurred. Collapse of the "Roman Empire 2", can't wait to see. Ironic how you as proclaimed "discordians" hate change and love order, despite the fact that Eris/Discordia is there when any war, revolt or conflict occurs.

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

Doubt the French Revolution and 1917 Revolution were. All sudden and highly unexpected and a mix of dozens of different factions. And also WW1 was horrible for the powers' expansion of their foreign markets. The British empire nearly collapsed cause of WW1 and the Austro-Hungarian empire fell. Many empires fell or lost grip on lots of territory like Germany did.

In the Russian revolution soldiers suddenly + unexpectedly revolted and went rebel, shooting their own officers and being tired of getting bossed around. The officers were shocked when they refused to obey after being ordered and seeing their own subjects point their guns to them to shoot.

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

Unionization.

Well, you'd better get started then. You know, organizing.

Well Chaos and Discord are two different things are you believe. Chaos to have some temporary destruction to have something new emerge. Essentially it means change and unions are a machine of change which will make the CEOs lose more money. It's also more alikeable to a democratic revolt inside an environment against a class of people with autocratic power who are even more orderly(bosses).

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

Unionization.

Well, you'd better get started then. You know, organizing.

Well Chaos and Discord are two different things are you believe. Chaos to have some temporary destruction to have something new emerge. Essentially it means change and unions are a machine of change which will make the CEOs lose more money. It's also more alikeable to a democratic revolt inside an environment against a class of people with autocratic power who are even more orderly(bosses).

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

Unionization.

Well, you'd better get started then. You know, organizing.

Well Chaos and Discord are two different things are you believe. Chaos to have some temporary destruction to have something new emerge. Essentially it means change and unions are a machine of change which will make the CEOs lose more money. It's also more alikeable to a democratic revolt inside an environment against a class of people with autocratic power who are even more orderly(bosses).

Yep. Great. Let's see some results. Chop chop.

There already are and right now with some movements I endorse being involved. Quite recent too:

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

Unionization.

Well, you'd better get started then. You know, organizing.

Well Chaos and Discord are two different things are you believe. Chaos to have some temporary destruction to have something new emerge. Essentially it means change and unions are a machine of change which will make the CEOs lose more money. It's also more alikeable to a democratic revolt inside an environment against a class of people with autocratic power who are even more orderly(bosses).

Yep. Great. Let's see some results. Chop chop.

There already are and right now with some movements I endorse being involved. Quite recent too:

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

Unionization.

Well, you'd better get started then. You know, organizing.

Well Chaos and Discord are two different things are you believe. Chaos to have some temporary destruction to have something new emerge. Essentially it means change and unions are a machine of change which will make the CEOs lose more money. It's also more alikeable to a democratic revolt inside an environment against a class of people with autocratic power who are even more orderly(bosses).

Yep. Great. Let's see some results. Chop chop.

There already are and right now with some movements I endorse being involved. Quite recent too:

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

Unionization.

Well, you'd better get started then. You know, organizing.

Well Chaos and Discord are two different things are you believe. Chaos to have some temporary destruction to have something new emerge. Essentially it means change and unions are a machine of change which will make the CEOs lose more money. It's also more alikeable to a democratic revolt inside an environment against a class of people with autocratic power who are even more orderly(bosses).

Yep. Great. Let's see some results. Chop chop.

There already are and right now with some movements I endorse being involved. Quite recent too:

I do not have the opportunity due to the sociopathy of first world people but I will soon once I get it and finish whatever I am busy with now. It's also difficult if I do not live with them but hopefully their unions can establish an easier way to communicate/make contact with their first world supporters soon. What I have done so far is condemn the first world for its crimes against the third world, hypocrisy and freedom. Also creation of thought-forms, research how people react to certain things and learned about event/situation-creation or how to control fate/influence or create events through the right actions. Shedding light on the tens of millions killed by preventable disease and mass starvation by first world corporations holding back the third world's right to economic independence.First world mainstream people are part of the elite which is why they are so sociopathic now, third world people are now the new common class to work with. I feel less empathy for people in the first world because many are sociopaths incapable of caring for freedom.

What I can tell you as well is that the "terrorism" that our government claims to be fighting occurred as a result of corporate colonialism/globalization on the countries of their origin. The first world destroyed the economy + conditions of poorer countries and made people hate them and some wanted to hit back.

I do not have the opportunity due to the sociopathy of first world people

Good thing you and I aren't those nasty first world people.

Most* There will be some abnormalities in the first world who will work against the order/colonialism.

All the apathetic ones who do not care about their freedom and only their selfish material interests. The sociopathy was created by these spoiled conditions and lack of contact with the third world instead of them being born with it.

Most. So, of the billion people - give or take - who live in the first world, how many are sociopaths?

All the apathetic ones who do not care about their freedom and only their selfish material interests. The sociopathy was created by these spoiled conditions and lack of contact with the third world instead of them being born with it.

In numerical terms. You seem to be operating under a hypothesis here, and we ought to test that, yes?

All the apathetic ones who do not care about their freedom and only their selfish material interests. The sociopathy was created by these spoiled conditions and lack of contact with the third world instead of them being born with it.

In numerical terms. You seem to be operating under a hypothesis here, and we ought to test that, yes?

Yep. History of human behaviour has proven that revolutions or civil disobedience often occurs in impoverished conditions where people see revolution as a means of survival. The peasant revolts of medieval times occurred for similar reasons when their previous system(Feudalism) was declining.

All the apathetic ones who do not care about their freedom and only their selfish material interests. The sociopathy was created by these spoiled conditions and lack of contact with the third world instead of them being born with it.

In numerical terms. You seem to be operating under a hypothesis here, and we ought to test that, yes?

Yep. History of human behaviour has proven that revolutions or civil disobedience often occurs in impoverished conditions where people see revolution as a means of survival. The peasant revolts of medieval times occurred for similar reasons when their previous system(Feudalism) was declining.

You still have not offered a numerical value on the percentage or absolute numbers of sociopaths among the billion people inhabiting the "first world".

All the apathetic ones who do not care about their freedom and only their selfish material interests. The sociopathy was created by these spoiled conditions and lack of contact with the third world instead of them being born with it.

In numerical terms. You seem to be operating under a hypothesis here, and we ought to test that, yes?

Yep. History of human behaviour has proven that revolutions or civil disobedience often occurs in impoverished conditions where people see revolution as a means of survival. The peasant revolts of medieval times occurred for similar reasons when their previous system(Feudalism) was declining.

You still have not offered a numerical value on the percentage or absolute numbers of sociopaths among the billion people inhabiting the "first world".

That percentage is all the selfish apathetic people who do not care for their own and others' freedoms. They also are mostly apathetic to third world suffering due to hidden intentional racism and a feeling of superiority over them due to their privilege. The corporate colonialism is also intentionally racist in nature in that it's targetted to hold back the economy of countries with people of different complexion.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 14, 2015, 03:08:21 am

All the apathetic ones who do not care about their freedom and only their selfish material interests. The sociopathy was created by these spoiled conditions and lack of contact with the third world instead of them being born with it.

In numerical terms. You seem to be operating under a hypothesis here, and we ought to test that, yes?

Yep. History of human behaviour has proven that revolutions or civil disobedience often occurs in impoverished conditions where people see revolution as a means of survival. The peasant revolts of medieval times occurred for similar reasons when their previous system(Feudalism) was declining.

You still have not offered a numerical value on the percentage or absolute numbers of sociopaths among the billion people inhabiting the "first world".

That percentage is all the selfish apathetic people who do not care for their own and others' freedoms. They also are mostly apathetic to third world suffering due to hidden intentional racism and a feeling of superiority over them due to their privilege. The corporate colonialism is also intentionally racist in nature in that it's targetted to hold back the economy of countries with people of different complexion.

Again not a single number. Closest you got was using the designation third to describe the world of all those good folks you've endorsed and described yet know almost literally nothing about.

What I am seeing here is a completely unsupported argument. Just another arrogant first world fuck who is DIFFERENT, who is gonna be the GREAT WHITE FATHER to all those poor 3rd world types, because God knows they can't do it on their own.

All the apathetic ones who do not care about their freedom and only their selfish material interests. The sociopathy was created by these spoiled conditions and lack of contact with the third world instead of them being born with it.

In numerical terms. You seem to be operating under a hypothesis here, and we ought to test that, yes?

Yep. History of human behaviour has proven that revolutions or civil disobedience often occurs in impoverished conditions where people see revolution as a means of survival. The peasant revolts of medieval times occurred for similar reasons when their previous system(Feudalism) was declining.

You still have not offered a numerical value on the percentage or absolute numbers of sociopaths among the billion people inhabiting the "first world".

That percentage is all the selfish apathetic people who do not care for their own and others' freedoms. They also are mostly apathetic to third world suffering due to hidden intentional racism and a feeling of superiority over them due to their privilege. The corporate colonialism is also intentionally racist in nature in that it's targetted to hold back the economy of countries with people of different complexion.

Again not a single number. Closest you got was using the designation third to describe the world of all those good folks you've endorsed and described yet know almost literally nothing about.

Because I cannot 100% calculate the percentage of all the abnormalities and privileged racist pro-colonial sociopaths. You make an estimation, for the percentage of the sociopaths use any who can be classified as those who are apathetic for their and others' freedoms + the wellbeing of the third world nations.

What is literally happening here and has happened is a second holocaust on the third world populations by a nazi parent-corporation masquerading as a "government"(The U.S, Canadian and Australian governments are registered as corporate entities). Hence they do not obey common laws or the constitution and can break them, they have hijacked us.

They should not have to be obeyed if they are a corporate entity, the constitution and common law for example does not say it's illegal to travel without a license. But the corporation masquerading as a government says you can't travel using a car without a license. It's technically not illegal. But they will use payed thuggery who can kidnap you to enforce it(police). Example of thuggery and kidnap by the corporation ruling us: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsoUArgpo9s

What I am seeing here is a completely unsupported argument. Just another arrogant first world fuck who is DIFFERENT, who is gonna be the GREAT WHITE FATHER to all those poor 3rd world types, because God knows they can't do it on their own.

Doubt so if it's something called "Solidarity". "Great white"? I'm only half/part "white".

I am officially calling bullshit on your no opportunities defense. By the time Julian Assange was your age (a fellow Aussie, btdubs) he was breaking into NASA.

Yeah but he knew how to hack already, and anybody in the first world can have access to the tools to do it. I would expect a more physical or strategic role if I was in one.

So what's stopping you?

There is no revolution occurring that I can hop in and assist physically or strategically. The closest you can get here is to participate in a protest.

So what's stopping you?

There is no revolutionary situation occurring.

So what's stopping you?

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 14, 2015, 03:29:40 am

I see that we have another hero of the downtrodden masses here, ready to lead "strategically", if he can find a ride to the revolution. Lovely. First rate. The huddled masses of the little people must be breathing a sigh of relief.

I do agree with our new hero on one thing. Violence, and lots of it.

But I think I would start with Chaos Advocate. As Cain says "Always kill the mouthy ones first."

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 14, 2015, 04:50:17 am

Chaos Advocate...

RUN YOU SILLY RACIST AUSSIE FUCK!!!

I know you won't, but by properly warning you I feel better about what is about to happen.

*washes hands, gets popcorn*

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 14, 2015, 05:43:07 am

I know you won't, but by properly warning you I feel better about what is about to happen.

*washes hands, gets popcorn*

Balls. I am just a humble country preacher-man. Nothing at all to worry about. I just stopped in to admire Chaos Advocate's unfailing support for Those People, who need his assistance to throw off the yoke of the oppressor. Even his NAME implies that he is, in fact, an advocate for those darling little people who need his lily-white guidance.

You and I both know that while the oppressed masses may be strong, they're clearly not mentally ready to raise themselves up, so naturally that means that Good People like Chaos Advocate must step up to the plate. If they can arrange transportation to the struggle. He can't reasonably count on being able to borrow his mother's SUV at any time, and who can say when the time for revolution will come?

Now, what a savvy young man in his position should do is start a gofundme or indiegogo, to obtain some reasonable transportation. As the Generalissimo can tell you, you must arrive to the struggle in style, or you're letting the side down. Perhaps a hummer. Or even, dare I say it, a vintage Land Rover?

There's no point in being shabby about this sort of thing. The downtrodden masses will not be properly inspired by the white savior, and may fail to acknowledge his strategic genius. I have no idea which war college he attended, but he says he is the strategic type, and who am I to doubt him?

However, the aforementioned Indian union organizers should cease their activity. They are jumping the gun, and without Chaos Advocate to help them, they will inevitably mess it up, as Those People will.

Once, the Generalissimo was just little baby maggot like Chaos Advocate... only want to help help help all the stupid peoples. Peoples, they are full of dumb. You can put that on bumper sticker, buckie, believe Enrico when he toss truth nugget at you. Peoples, not just some of peoples, no; all peoples; peoples, they do not know what they want, or know what they need. They do not know what decisions they should for make. They do not know what road to take.

For that, they need Papa.

Papa know you lust for subjugation, how else can peoples explain adoration of Donald "Onion Loaf" Trump? He is the New Papa, the Papa these times have demand.

Smile, maggot. You love us.

Like Krazy Kat love little monster mouse Ignatz, when he toss brick after brick at her face, so you love Papa too as he slowly step sole of his boot down on you face, crunch satisfyingly into flesh and bone. You love us. You need us. Papa is firm, but is out of love. You strong, you pretty, but you dumbs. Papa know.

Enrico has see future, glorious faggots, it is: A bucket of Napalm above every door. To keep you on you toes. Papa teach. Discipline is no cheap, but is necessary. Enrico know think for peoples is most caring thing he can do, is why he invent pre-filled ballot card. Why stress the maggots? Papa know best. Decision is for adult to make, not all the little ones, running around while place bets on feud of Nicki Minaj or Miley Cyrus.

Embrace reflection, Chaos Advocate... you are dictator too, just like Papa.

I know you won't, but by properly warning you I feel better about what is about to happen.

*washes hands, gets popcorn*

Balls. I am just a humble country preacher-man. Nothing at all to worry about. I just stopped in to admire Chaos Advocate's unfailing support for Those People, who need his assistance to throw off the yoke of the oppressor. Even his NAME implies that he is, in fact, an advocate for those darling little people who need his lily-white guidance.

You and I both know that while the oppressed masses may be strong, they're clearly not mentally ready to raise themselves up, so naturally that means that Good People like Chaos Advocate must step up to the plate. If they can arrange transportation to the struggle. He can't reasonably count on being able to borrow his mother's SUV at any time, and who can say when the time for revolution will come?

Now, what a savvy young man in his position should do is start a gofundme or indiegogo, to obtain some reasonable transportation. As the Generalissimo can tell you, you must arrive to the struggle in style, or you're letting the side down. Perhaps a hummer. Or even, dare I say it, a vintage Land Rover?

There's no point in being shabby about this sort of thing. The downtrodden masses will not be properly inspired by the white savior, and may fail to acknowledge his strategic genius. I have no idea which war college he attended, but he says he is the strategic type, and who am I to doubt him?

However, the aforementioned Indian union organizers should cease their activity. They are jumping the gun, and without Chaos Advocate to help them, they will inevitably mess it up, as Those People will.

In any case, stop hounding the lad. He's a hero.

Nope I've never said they absolutely "require me". Your assuming again/got me wrong again. I'm saying they should go ahead and keep doing what they are doing. But do you have any idea what solidarity is? Solidarity does not infringe on independence in any way.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 14, 2015, 04:45:43 pm

Nope I've never said they absolutely "require me". Your assuming again/got me wrong again. I'm saying they should go ahead and keep doing what they are doing. But do you have any idea what solidarity is? Solidarity does not infringe on independence in any way.

You implied that you should be used for strategy. Don't wimp out on me now.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 14, 2015, 05:02:45 pm

It occurs to me that Australia has a few racial issues of her own.

Why are you not fighting those? You know, the gangs of assholes "getting all the ethnics off the beach"? You could do something about that, surely.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 14, 2015, 05:25:13 pm

I know you won't, but by properly warning you I feel better about what is about to happen.

*washes hands, gets popcorn*

Making death threats behind a screen?

Not sure how you got a death threat out of that... I was trying to help.But I see now that you're more important than any of us could have realized, an Australian John Conner here to save the 3rd world from The Machine.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 14, 2015, 06:27:16 pm

I know you won't, but by properly warning you I feel better about what is about to happen.

*washes hands, gets popcorn*

Making death threats behind a screen?

Not sure how you got a death threat out of that... I was trying to help.But I see now that you're more important than any of us could have realized, an Australian John Conner here to save the 3rd world from The Machine.

Then what? Sounded like you were saying that some people on here who are pissy will come after me or stalk me irl, in that case I would anticipate for it. I never said I was "more important". What we have now here is terrible, that's all I'm implying. When some discord happens and we can get something better hopefully I can hop in for non-financial mercenary reasons, infact there would be mutual gain for all, not just me(we may get freedom + guns or a system where all people have access to welfare housing and employment, as well as guns). I want to get my share/piece too. Many are in deep financial crap right now and it's too expensive for hardly anyone to buy a home of their own, only rent. Secondly more oppressive. Is it the case at where you live? A move towards Great Depression 2.0 and oppression? I'm just saying that I hope the system causing all these problems goes soon. Have some understanding of our situation.

I know you won't, but by properly warning you I feel better about what is about to happen.

*washes hands, gets popcorn*

Making death threats behind a screen?

Not sure how you got a death threat out of that... I was trying to help.But I see now that you're more important than any of us could have realized, an Australian John Conner here to save the 3rd world from The Machine.

Then what? Sounded like you were saying that some people on here who are pissy will come after me or stalk me irl, in that case I would anticipate for it. I never said I was "more important". What we have now here is terrible, that's all I'm implying. When some discord happens and we can get something better hopefully I can hop in for non-financial mercenary reasons, infact there would be mutual gain for all, not just me(we may get freedom + guns or a system where all people have access to welfare housing and employment, as well as guns). I want to get my share/piece too. Many are in deep financial crap right now and it's too expensive for hardly anyone to buy a home of their own, only rent. Secondly more oppressive. Is it the case at where you live? A move towards Great Depression 2.0 and oppression? I'm just saying that I hope the system causing all these problems goes soon. Have some understanding of our situation.

I understand. Paranoid schizophrenia with delusions of persecution is a real bitch.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Hoopla on September 15, 2015, 06:39:56 am

I know you won't, but by properly warning you I feel better about what is about to happen.

*washes hands, gets popcorn*

Making death threats behind a screen?

Not sure how you got a death threat out of that... I was trying to help.But I see now that you're more important than any of us could have realized, an Australian John Conner here to save the 3rd world from The Machine.

Then what? Sounded like you were saying that some people on here who are pissy will come after me or stalk me irl, in that case I would anticipate for it. I never said I was "more important". What we have now here is terrible, that's all I'm implying. When some discord happens and we can get something better hopefully I can hop in for non-financial mercenary reasons, infact there would be mutual gain for all, not just me(we may get freedom + guns or a system where all people have access to welfare housing and employment, as well as guns). I want to get my share/piece too. Many are in deep financial crap right now and it's too expensive for hardly anyone to buy a home of their own, only rent. Secondly more oppressive. Is it the case at where you live? A move towards Great Depression 2.0 and oppression? I'm just saying that I hope the system causing all these problems goes soon. Have some understanding of our situation.

I understand. Paranoid schizophrenia with delusions of persecution is a real bitch.

Not persecution. Just that some of you might be so mad that you might try something irl.

I know you won't, but by properly warning you I feel better about what is about to happen.

*washes hands, gets popcorn*

Making death threats behind a screen?

Not sure how you got a death threat out of that... I was trying to help.But I see now that you're more important than any of us could have realized, an Australian John Conner here to save the 3rd world from The Machine.

Then what? Sounded like you were saying that some people on here who are pissy will come after me or stalk me irl, in that case I would anticipate for it. I never said I was "more important". What we have now here is terrible, that's all I'm implying. When some discord happens and we can get something better hopefully I can hop in for non-financial mercenary reasons, infact there would be mutual gain for all, not just me(we may get freedom + guns or a system where all people have access to welfare housing and employment, as well as guns). I want to get my share/piece too. Many are in deep financial crap right now and it's too expensive for hardly anyone to buy a home of their own, only rent. Secondly more oppressive. Is it the case at where you live? A move towards Great Depression 2.0 and oppression? I'm just saying that I hope the system causing all these problems goes soon. Have some understanding of our situation.

I understand. Paranoid schizophrenia with delusions of persecution is a real bitch.

Not persecution. Just that some of you might be so mad that you might try something irl.

It was your mind that went there bruh. Pretty sure you're unable to truly anger a single soul involved in this thread. You're projecting, deluded, and paranoid. For real. Seek a councilor and be honest at your appointments.

I know you won't, but by properly warning you I feel better about what is about to happen.

*washes hands, gets popcorn*

Making death threats behind a screen?

Not sure how you got a death threat out of that... I was trying to help.But I see now that you're more important than any of us could have realized, an Australian John Conner here to save the 3rd world from The Machine.

Then what? Sounded like you were saying that some people on here who are pissy will come after me or stalk me irl, in that case I would anticipate for it. I never said I was "more important". What we have now here is terrible, that's all I'm implying. When some discord happens and we can get something better hopefully I can hop in for non-financial mercenary reasons, infact there would be mutual gain for all, not just me(we may get freedom + guns or a system where all people have access to welfare housing and employment, as well as guns). I want to get my share/piece too. Many are in deep financial crap right now and it's too expensive for hardly anyone to buy a home of their own, only rent. Secondly more oppressive. Is it the case at where you live? A move towards Great Depression 2.0 and oppression? I'm just saying that I hope the system causing all these problems goes soon. Have some understanding of our situation.

I understand. Paranoid schizophrenia with delusions of persecution is a real bitch.

Not persecution. Just that some of you might be so mad that you might try something irl.

It's not like I'm bombarded with idiocy every day on my Twitter feed from my insane followers. Or from the people I work with. Or my students.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 15, 2015, 10:48:23 pm

I'm pretty sire he's assuming that he is somehow pissing in the cheerios of the Illuminati directly just by watching Alex Jones and imagining himself free of The Black Iron Prison.

Tell you what Chaos Advocate, if you ever do manage to infuriate me sufficiently to desire your harm you will know. I promise to curse you in such fashion that you grow taste buds on your rectal sphincter. It will be unmistakable.

If things start tasting sweaty and tangy no matter what you eat it's only fair that I warn you that it's a sign to stop eating for a long while.

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

Your talking about the wilderness which hasn't been tamed yet. The soil there is some of the oldest in the world, still remaining which is why it has nutrient issues with growing anything. Dude hardly anybody lives on those areas or want to. The majority of the population live in highly urbanized areas including myself, aside from a few parks with birds. I mean the places inhabited by most of the population.

Why are you not fighting those? You know, the gangs of assholes "getting all the ethnics off the beach"? You could do something about that, surely.

Antifa and anarchists are doing that and militantly. Last time it nearly escalated into a punch out or fight between Antifa and racists but the police just had to ruin the show.

So what's stopping you?

I am beginning to suspect he may be all talk.

Whaaaaaaat? An internet anarchist who's all bark and no firebombs? That NEVER happens!

There is nothing sadder - in a funny sort of way - than a wannabe Discordian guru. He came here looking for an audience, for followers.

:lol:

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Never claimed to be any of the above? "Followers"? Why need any? It makes it less flexible if you do and raises your profile. I'm better off described as mercenary minded.

Then, again, why aren't you in Syria? Plenty of mercenaries there!

I do not literally mean mercenary. I am referring to a type of merc mindset. I also support something if I believe it is good for me to live in which is the benefit gained.

I would support the libertarians because I would gain freedom, privacy and ability to have firearms again. I would also support the second wave far-left in order to have absence of authority figures such as bosses because I hate being trampled on by anyone, the social security which is a solution to financial issues now and ability to own firearms(democratic/libertarian-left should be soft on firearms). It depends who is more likely to win out of those two, the second has more numbers.

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

Your talking about the wilderness which hasn't been tamed yet. The soil there is some of the oldest in the world, still remaining which is why it has nutrient issues with growing anything. Dude hardly anybody lives on those areas or want to. The majority of the population live in highly urbanized areas including myself, aside from a few parks with birds. I mean the places inhabited by most of the population.

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

And blatant unapologetic racism.

Just cause I don't know every single thing doesn't mean I am "racist". I would know all stuff if I was a deity but I'm not. Also I lean more onto dark humor(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHMnU9X6NXA), the intuition of you guys is just probably not very good or intuition does not work on somebody who is fickle alot like me.

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

Your talking about the wilderness which hasn't been tamed yet. The soil there is some of the oldest in the world, still remaining which is why it has nutrient issues with growing anything. Dude hardly anybody lives on those areas or want to. The majority of the population live in highly urbanized areas including myself, aside from a few parks with birds. I mean the places inhabited by most of the population.

Wow, I clearly underestimated your level of butthurt. I suppose that's what I get for skipping most of the thread.

You didn't answer me question/proof, what about the urbanized areas? Also it was only cause some were not willing to have any constructive discussion. I had to make my point, I'm not some kind of deity or deity incarnate who knows every single thing about this world. If I was, different story.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Hoopla on September 17, 2015, 04:00:24 pm

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

And blatant unapologetic racism.

Just cause I don't know every single thing doesn't mean I am "racist". I would know all stuff if I was a deity but I'm not. Also I lean more onto dark humor(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHMnU9X6NXA), the intuition of you guys is just probably not very good or intuition does not work on somebody who is fickle alot like me.

Well, I was talking about Australia as a whole, so it looks like someone is getting a little self-conscious. Good, that's the road to recovery.

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

And blatant unapologetic racism.

Just cause I don't know every single thing doesn't mean I am "racist". I would know all stuff if I was a deity but I'm not. Also I lean more onto dark humor(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHMnU9X6NXA), the intuition of you guys is just probably not very good or intuition does not work on somebody who is fickle alot like me.

Well, I was talking about Australia as a whole, so it looks like someone is getting a little self-conscious. Good, that's the road to recovery.

And I was talking about in terms of inside the civilization there. Self-conscious? What about others' self-consciousness on this thread + judgmental behavior? And I also have a emotional defense mechanism on which clouds/scrambles me in which I will not act 100% my real self until I can better predict the behavior of others I just come into contact more hence irl people find me "weird/mysterious" til they get to know me more.

As for when I present my interpretation to the other guys you could have just given me yours too. Also how does danger necessarily equal discord/chaos? There is one highly dangerous marine-life that can sometimes be found in rockpools close to cities which will kill you in minutes/seconds if you are unlucky enough to touch it called "blue-ringed octopus". The majority of the population/civilization are confined to one city in each state.

Btw dark humor does not necessarily mean you will always find it funny in reality but you can find it hilarious in theory which is often the case.

Anyway wouldn't a deity, especially something so different from anything most likely have a different perception on "morality" from their position? What we as people find repulsive/dark/annoying, somebody else very different or somebody like Eris/Discordia could find hilarious? This is my theory for the "darker" side of chaos that comes along with it sometimes when Eris/Discordia brings it.

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

Your talking about the wilderness which hasn't been tamed yet. The soil there is some of the oldest in the world, still remaining which is why it has nutrient issues with growing anything. Dude hardly anybody lives on those areas or want to. The majority of the population live in highly urbanized areas including myself, aside from a few parks with birds. I mean the places inhabited by most of the population.

Wow, I clearly underestimated your level of butthurt. I suppose that's what I get for skipping most of the thread.

You didn't answer me question/proof, what about the urbanized areas? Also it was only cause some were not willing to have any constructive discussion. I had to make my point, I'm not some kind of deity or deity incarnate who knows every single thing about this world. If I was, different story.

You didn't ask a question. Also, what the fuck are you talking about? Are you confusing me with someone else in this thread?

I know you won't, but by properly warning you I feel better about what is about to happen.

*washes hands, gets popcorn*

Making death threats behind a screen?

Not sure how you got a death threat out of that... I was trying to help.But I see now that you're more important than any of us could have realized, an Australian John Conner here to save the 3rd world from The Machine.

Then what? Sounded like you were saying that some people on here who are pissy will come after me or stalk me irl, in that case I would anticipate for it. I never said I was "more important". What we have now here is terrible, that's all I'm implying. When some discord happens and we can get something better hopefully I can hop in for non-financial mercenary reasons, infact there would be mutual gain for all, not just me(we may get freedom + guns or a system where all people have access to welfare housing and employment, as well as guns). I want to get my share/piece too. Many are in deep financial crap right now and it's too expensive for hardly anyone to buy a home of their own, only rent. Secondly more oppressive. Is it the case at where you live? A move towards Great Depression 2.0 and oppression? I'm just saying that I hope the system causing all these problems goes soon. Have some understanding of our situation.

I understand. Paranoid schizophrenia with delusions of persecution is a real bitch.

Not persecution. Just that some of you might be so mad that you might try something irl.

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

Your talking about the wilderness which hasn't been tamed yet. The soil there is some of the oldest in the world, still remaining which is why it has nutrient issues with growing anything. Dude hardly anybody lives on those areas or want to. The majority of the population live in highly urbanized areas including myself, aside from a few parks with birds. I mean the places inhabited by most of the population.

Wow, I clearly underestimated your level of butthurt. I suppose that's what I get for skipping most of the thread.

You didn't answer me question/proof, what about the urbanized areas? Also it was only cause some were not willing to have any constructive discussion. I had to make my point, I'm not some kind of deity or deity incarnate who knows every single thing about this world. If I was, different story.

You didn't ask a question. Also, what the fuck are you talking about? Are you confusing me with someone else in this thread?

I know you won't, but by properly warning you I feel better about what is about to happen.

*washes hands, gets popcorn*

Making death threats behind a screen?

Not sure how you got a death threat out of that... I was trying to help.But I see now that you're more important than any of us could have realized, an Australian John Conner here to save the 3rd world from The Machine.

Then what? Sounded like you were saying that some people on here who are pissy will come after me or stalk me irl, in that case I would anticipate for it. I never said I was "more important". What we have now here is terrible, that's all I'm implying. When some discord happens and we can get something better hopefully I can hop in for non-financial mercenary reasons, infact there would be mutual gain for all, not just me(we may get freedom + guns or a system where all people have access to welfare housing and employment, as well as guns). I want to get my share/piece too. Many are in deep financial crap right now and it's too expensive for hardly anyone to buy a home of their own, only rent. Secondly more oppressive. Is it the case at where you live? A move towards Great Depression 2.0 and oppression? I'm just saying that I hope the system causing all these problems goes soon. Have some understanding of our situation.

I understand. Paranoid schizophrenia with delusions of persecution is a real bitch.

Not persecution. Just that some of you might be so mad that you might try something irl.

doesn't even live in a real country. Nobody cares enough.

In a country-to-be that is ruled by foreign corporate imperialism and a puppet to them since the 1970s coup.

Can you give us literally one way in which you have been or have concrete plans to be an advocate for chaos?

You missed this post.

Yes, but with many different paths to the same plans. I would want to be in one where I would succeed or be part of a success in it.

Are Australian schools really that bad?

I am not talking about schools, I am already out of it. I am talking about the society in general and its politics. For example it only takes one person to misuse one thing for an instant ban to occur from government and nobody cares if it happens.

Can you give us literally one way in which you have been or have concrete plans to be an advocate for chaos?

You missed this post.

Yes, but with many different paths to the same plans. I would want to be in one where I would succeed or be part of a success in it.

Are Australian schools really that bad?

I am not talking about schools, I am already out of it. I am talking about the society in general and its politics. For example it only takes one person to misuse one thing for an instant ban to occur from government and nobody cares if it happens.

No, I'm asking you if the Australian schools are really as bad as your reading comprehension skills would lead me to believe. Your inability to answer (or perhaps comprehend) a simple question is astounding.

Can you give us literally one way in which you have been or have concrete plans to be an advocate for chaos?

You missed this post.

Yes, but with many different paths to the same plans. I would want to be in one where I would succeed or be part of a success in it.

Are Australian schools really that bad?

I am not talking about schools, I am already out of it. I am talking about the society in general and its politics. For example it only takes one person to misuse one thing for an instant ban to occur from government and nobody cares if it happens.

No, I'm asking you if the Australian schools are really as bad as your reading comprehension skills would lead me to believe. Your inability to answer (or perhaps comprehend) a simple question is astounding.

Also how can I directly just do it if I have no opportunity to do it? Especially if it would be a losing fight? Its IMPOSSIBLE to succeed with no revolutionary situation happening. First world people are not going to rebel when they can so easily get a roof over their heads and enough income to eat everyday. All that can be done is promote ideas, solidarity or create thoughtforms. The second I will be involved in asap when I get the time. For protests I could bring a mask or something incase one day they become fascist. More recently I have contributed to denouncing neoliberalism and the elites incharge. Also did some of the "go dark" campaign against surveillance.

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

Your talking about the wilderness which hasn't been tamed yet. The soil there is some of the oldest in the world, still remaining which is why it has nutrient issues with growing anything. Dude hardly anybody lives on those areas or want to. The majority of the population live in highly urbanized areas including myself, aside from a few parks with birds. I mean the places inhabited by most of the population.

Wow, I clearly underestimated your level of butthurt. I suppose that's what I get for skipping most of the thread.

You didn't answer me question/proof, what about the urbanized areas? Also it was only cause some were not willing to have any constructive discussion. I had to make my point, I'm not some kind of deity or deity incarnate who knows every single thing about this world. If I was, different story.

You didn't ask a question. Also, what the fuck are you talking about? Are you confusing me with someone else in this thread?

I said to explain these issues/criticisms in the links.

I didn't click them because I didn't your response to my original post also didn't make sense. I literally have no fucking clue what your beef is. You're posting in a purely reactionary fashion at this point.

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

Your talking about the wilderness which hasn't been tamed yet. The soil there is some of the oldest in the world, still remaining which is why it has nutrient issues with growing anything. Dude hardly anybody lives on those areas or want to. The majority of the population live in highly urbanized areas including myself, aside from a few parks with birds. I mean the places inhabited by most of the population.

Wow, I clearly underestimated your level of butthurt. I suppose that's what I get for skipping most of the thread.

You didn't answer me question/proof, what about the urbanized areas? Also it was only cause some were not willing to have any constructive discussion. I had to make my point, I'm not some kind of deity or deity incarnate who knows every single thing about this world. If I was, different story.

You didn't ask a question. Also, what the fuck are you talking about? Are you confusing me with someone else in this thread?

I said to explain these issues/criticisms in the links.

I didn't click them because I didn't your response to my original post also didn't make sense. I literally have no fucking clue what your beef is. You're posting in a purely reactionary fashion at this point.

You said "An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.". The increase in order already happened in the densely populated areas and I was referring to them. Extreme information censorship/anti-whistleblower laws, mass surveillance and etc.

Quick and successful stamping out of anything that interrupts the stability/non-change there including in 19th-20th century history. The strike of 1949 would have marked the end of this period of stability/non-change but it was quickly suppressed/snuffed out. It was the closest thing that came close to successfully defeating it.

So why is there no extreme disorder in response there yet in those places aside from skyrocketing housing price inflations/prices all going up which makes it near-impossible for the non-upper class to buy a house? No collapse of gov and all out-revolution? No? Its government has also never failed to suppress any sources of change/chaos that break out ever in history and they even brag about doing so in celebration days telling you to be grateful for the "peace/stability ensured".

Out of all countries its authority is literally the best in preventing chaos/radical change from taking root and happening. There are no other authorities that have rivaled it ever in that. The such effective ways it somehow prevents any change from occurring is probably close to rival the power/strength of Eris/Discordia herself, thats what I can say from research on them.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 17, 2015, 06:13:06 pm

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

Your talking about the wilderness which hasn't been tamed yet. The soil there is some of the oldest in the world, still remaining which is why it has nutrient issues with growing anything. Dude hardly anybody lives on those areas or want to. The majority of the population live in highly urbanized areas including myself, aside from a few parks with birds. I mean the places inhabited by most of the population.

Wow, I clearly underestimated your level of butthurt. I suppose that's what I get for skipping most of the thread.

You didn't answer me question/proof, what about the urbanized areas? Also it was only cause some were not willing to have any constructive discussion. I had to make my point, I'm not some kind of deity or deity incarnate who knows every single thing about this world. If I was, different story.

You didn't ask a question. Also, what the fuck are you talking about? Are you confusing me with someone else in this thread?

I said to explain these issues/criticisms in the links.

I didn't click them because I didn't your response to my original post also didn't make sense. I literally have no fucking clue what your beef is. You're posting in a purely reactionary fashion at this point.

You said "An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.". The increase in order already happened in the densely populated areas and I was referring to them. Extreme information censorship/anti-whistleblower laws, mass surveillance and etc. Quick and successful stamping out of anything that interrupts the stability/non-change there including in 19th-20th century history. The strike of 1949 would have marked the end of this period of stability/non-change but it was quickly suppressed/snuffed out. So why is there no extreme disorder in response there yet in those places aside from skyrocketing housing price inflations/prices all going up which makes it near-impossible for the non-upper class to buy a house? No collapse of gov and all out-revolution? No? Its government has also never failed to suppress any sources of change/chaos that break out ever in history and they even brag about doing so in celebration days telling you to be grateful for the "peace/stability ensured".

You don't understand because you won't listen. You won't listen because you can't listen.

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

Your talking about the wilderness which hasn't been tamed yet. The soil there is some of the oldest in the world, still remaining which is why it has nutrient issues with growing anything. Dude hardly anybody lives on those areas or want to. The majority of the population live in highly urbanized areas including myself, aside from a few parks with birds. I mean the places inhabited by most of the population.

Wow, I clearly underestimated your level of butthurt. I suppose that's what I get for skipping most of the thread.

You didn't answer me question/proof, what about the urbanized areas? Also it was only cause some were not willing to have any constructive discussion. I had to make my point, I'm not some kind of deity or deity incarnate who knows every single thing about this world. If I was, different story.

You didn't ask a question. Also, what the fuck are you talking about? Are you confusing me with someone else in this thread?

I said to explain these issues/criticisms in the links.

I didn't click them because I didn't your response to my original post also didn't make sense. I literally have no fucking clue what your beef is. You're posting in a purely reactionary fashion at this point.

You said "An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.". The increase in order already happened in the densely populated areas and I was referring to them. Extreme information censorship/anti-whistleblower laws, mass surveillance and etc. Quick and successful stamping out of anything that interrupts the stability/non-change there including in 19th-20th century history. The strike of 1949 would have marked the end of this period of stability/non-change but it was quickly suppressed/snuffed out. So why is there no extreme disorder in response there yet in those places aside from skyrocketing housing price inflations/prices all going up which makes it near-impossible for the non-upper class to buy a house? No collapse of gov and all out-revolution? No? Its government has also never failed to suppress any sources of change/chaos that break out ever in history and they even brag about doing so in celebration days telling you to be grateful for the "peace/stability ensured".

You don't understand because you won't listen. You won't listen because you can't listen.

Same with you. I was talking about in certain areas, the urbanized places where most of the concentration of the population are. Why is it that their authority has been undefeated for 100-nearly 200 years in snuffing out all sources of disorder or chaos(radical change)? The 1949 miners strike was the only thing that came close to defeating them in their attempt but it was easily snuffed out eventually, in other countries like the U.S it would have crippled the period of non-change or dealt a heavy blow to it. Read the edited version also.

From this estimation of their nearly unstoppable power to snuff out any chaos and its sources, more effectively than even the U.S government. This authority and whatever thoughtform they is probably close to rivaling Eris/Discordia's strength herself.

Can you give us literally one way in which you have been or have concrete plans to be an advocate for chaos?

You missed this post.

Yes, but with many different paths to the same plans. I would want to be in one where I would succeed or be part of a success in it.

Let me give you the babies guide to spreading chaos>put googly eyes on posters>put coppies of dojin in the religion section of your local library>buy 50 gold fish, pass them out to random people you see out at 3am, give one to the cop who asks what you're doing. Put one in a mail box, propper postage.>put stickers everywhere

Go do those things, unless you're a pussy who can't handle REAL CHAOS.

Can you give us literally one way in which you have been or have concrete plans to be an advocate for chaos?

You missed this post.

Yes, but with many different paths to the same plans. I would want to be in one where I would succeed or be part of a success in it.

Let me give you the babies guide to spreading chaos>put googly eyes on posters>put coppies of dojin in the religion section of your local library>buy 50 gold fish, pass them out to random people you see out at 3am, give one to the cop who asks what you're doing. Put one in a mail box, propper postage.>put stickers everywhere

Go do those things, unless you're a pussy who can't handle REAL CHAOS.

Can you give us literally one way in which you have been or have concrete plans to be an advocate for chaos?

You missed this post.

Yes, but with many different paths to the same plans. I would want to be in one where I would succeed or be part of a success in it.

Let me give you the babies guide to spreading chaos>put googly eyes on posters>put coppies of dojin in the religion section of your local library>buy 50 gold fish, pass them out to random people you see out at 3am, give one to the cop who asks what you're doing. Put one in a mail box, propper postage.>put stickers everywhere

Go do those things, unless you're a pussy who can't handle REAL CHAOS.

Shit, just do something.

Following the wise words of the church of go the fuck outside is always good

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 17, 2015, 07:14:21 pm

An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.

Since we see neither, we can conclude that Australia has not much of either Order or Disorder, and instead is full of poison, dingos, spider, and poisonous dingo-eating spiders.

Your talking about the wilderness which hasn't been tamed yet. The soil there is some of the oldest in the world, still remaining which is why it has nutrient issues with growing anything. Dude hardly anybody lives on those areas or want to. The majority of the population live in highly urbanized areas including myself, aside from a few parks with birds. I mean the places inhabited by most of the population.

Wow, I clearly underestimated your level of butthurt. I suppose that's what I get for skipping most of the thread.

You didn't answer me question/proof, what about the urbanized areas? Also it was only cause some were not willing to have any constructive discussion. I had to make my point, I'm not some kind of deity or deity incarnate who knows every single thing about this world. If I was, different story.

You didn't ask a question. Also, what the fuck are you talking about? Are you confusing me with someone else in this thread?

I said to explain these issues/criticisms in the links.

I didn't click them because I didn't your response to my original post also didn't make sense. I literally have no fucking clue what your beef is. You're posting in a purely reactionary fashion at this point.

You said "An increase in Order results in a corresponding rise in Disorder. If Australia was a seat of extreme Order, you would see extreme Disorder in response.". The increase in order already happened in the densely populated areas and I was referring to them. Extreme information censorship/anti-whistleblower laws, mass surveillance and etc. Quick and successful stamping out of anything that interrupts the stability/non-change there including in 19th-20th century history. The strike of 1949 would have marked the end of this period of stability/non-change but it was quickly suppressed/snuffed out. So why is there no extreme disorder in response there yet in those places aside from skyrocketing housing price inflations/prices all going up which makes it near-impossible for the non-upper class to buy a house? No collapse of gov and all out-revolution? No? Its government has also never failed to suppress any sources of change/chaos that break out ever in history and they even brag about doing so in celebration days telling you to be grateful for the "peace/stability ensured".

You don't understand because you won't listen. You won't listen because you can't listen.

Same with you. I was talking about in certain areas, the urbanized places where most of the concentration of the population are. Why is it that their authority has been undefeated for 100-nearly 200 years in snuffing out all sources of disorder or chaos(radical change)? The 1949 miners strike was the only thing that came close to defeating them in their attempt but it was easily snuffed out eventually, in other countries like the U.S it would have crippled the period of non-change or dealt a heavy blow to it. Read the edited version also.

From this estimation of their nearly unstoppable power to snuff out any chaos and its sources, more effectively than even the U.S government. This authority and whatever thoughtform they is probably close to rivaling Eris/Discordia's strength herself.

Can you give us literally one way in which you have been or have concrete plans to be an advocate for chaos?

You missed this post.

Yes, but with many different paths to the same plans. I would want to be in one where I would succeed or be part of a success in it.

Are Australian schools really that bad?

I am not talking about schools, I am already out of it. I am talking about the society in general and its politics. For example it only takes one person to misuse one thing for an instant ban to occur from government and nobody cares if it happens.

No, I'm asking you if the Australian schools are really as bad as your reading comprehension skills would lead me to believe. Your inability to answer (or perhaps comprehend) a simple question is astounding.

Also how can I directly just do it if I have no opportunity to do it? Especially if it would be a losing fight? Its IMPOSSIBLE to succeed with no revolutionary situation happening. First world people are not going to rebel when they can so easily get a roof over their heads and enough income to eat everyday. All that can be done is promote ideas, solidarity or create thoughtforms.

So you're not doing anything because of lack of opportunity, and because it would be a losing fight. But everyone else isn't doing anything for far less noble reasons you have ascribed to them in your own head, making you better and smarter than they are.

Do I have this right?

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The second I will be involved in asap when I get the time.

Oh, that and also you don't have time. Gotcha.

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For protests I could bring a mask or something incase one day they become fascist.

Wait... you could? Am I to take this as it sounds, which is that you don't even attend protests? And you accuse people here of doing nothing?

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More recently I have contributed to denouncing neoliberalism and the elites incharge.

Oh, how nice, you've talked about stuff on the internet. That must feel very productive.

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Also did some of the "go dark" campaign against surveillance.

Oh here, this finally sounds like an actual thing! An actual action taken of some kind! So what part of the campaign were you responsible for?

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 17, 2015, 10:11:59 pm

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

This guy edits himself more than a DPRNK newspaper. After trying to hide his sovereign status I can only wonder what else he's hiding. I won't though. So far it's all too boring to bother with.

Total control freak this "Chaos Advocate".

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 18, 2015, 12:09:37 am

So you're not doing anything because of lack of opportunity, and because it would be a losing fight. But everyone else isn't doing anything for far less noble reasons you have ascribed to them in your own head, making you better and smarter than they are.

Do I have this right?

Nail/head. He wants to preach, but he feels he must preach down, because we aren't special snowflakes like he is.

So you're not doing anything because of lack of opportunity, and because it would be a losing fight. But everyone else isn't doing anything for far less noble reasons you have ascribed to them in your own head, making you better and smarter than they are.

Do I have this right?

Nail/head. He wants to preach, but he feels he must preach down, because we aren't special snowflakes like he is.

So he found a forum full of people he doesn't know at all, and commenced preaching at them on the assumption that, like him, they aren't actively involved in any subversive movements or efforts to change the status quo?

So you're not doing anything because of lack of opportunity, and because it would be a losing fight. But everyone else isn't doing anything for far less noble reasons you have ascribed to them in your own head, making you better and smarter than they are.

Do I have this right?

Nail/head. He wants to preach, but he feels he must preach down, because we aren't special snowflakes like he is.

So he found a forum full of people he doesn't know at all, and commenced preaching at them on the assumption that, like him, they aren't actively involved in any subversive movements or efforts to change the status quo?

BRILLIANT. This kid is going places. :lol:

I am kind of in love with the fact that he latched onto the idea that I'm an order-loving Stockholm Syndrome to the government case.

Just a tip, kid: if you wait for opportunities to enact change to come along, you'll wait your whole life. You have to make your own opportunities, and while they might not align with your grandiose visions of leading the charge to sack Rome, if you try, you might find that you actually can make incremental differences that lead in the right direction. Systems don't just collapse, like they seem to in books and fantasies; they erode, and they change. I live in a place with legal marijuana, marriage equality, the right to die, free two-year college, and socialized health care. Tell me the people who made those things happen sat back and waited for an opportunity to enact change to just come along.

Go on, tell me.

Because then I'll just laugh in your face and go on doing what I'm doing in my spare time when I'm not learning to be a competent neurobiologist, which is working to incrementally increase public access to fresh, nutritious, free food, which I believe is a basic human right that should be guaranteed to everyone via the social contract.

So get off your lazy, whiny, entitled son of a Colonial ass and get out there and DO SOMETHING, or SHUT UP.

So you're not doing anything because of lack of opportunity, and because it would be a losing fight. But everyone else isn't doing anything for far less noble reasons you have ascribed to them in your own head, making you better and smarter than they are.

Do I have this right?

Nail/head. He wants to preach, but he feels he must preach down, because we aren't special snowflakes like he is.

So he found a forum full of people he doesn't know at all, and commenced preaching at them on the assumption that, like him, they aren't actively involved in any subversive movements or efforts to change the status quo?

BRILLIANT. This kid is going places. :lol:

I am kind of in love with the fact that he latched onto the idea that I'm an order-loving Stockholm Syndrome to the government case.

So you're not doing anything because of lack of opportunity, and because it would be a losing fight. But everyone else isn't doing anything for far less noble reasons you have ascribed to them in your own head, making you better and smarter than they are.

Do I have this right?

Nail/head. He wants to preach, but he feels he must preach down, because we aren't special snowflakes like he is.

So he found a forum full of people he doesn't know at all, and commenced preaching at them on the assumption that, like him, they aren't actively involved in any subversive movements or efforts to change the status quo?

BRILLIANT. This kid is going places. :lol:

I am kind of in love with the fact that he latched onto the idea that I'm an order-loving Stockholm Syndrome to the government case.

It's downright AMAZING. :lol:

And, of course, I'm a staunch Eisenhower-era traditionalist.

I just horked coffee.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 18, 2015, 04:01:09 am

So he found a forum full of people he doesn't know at all, and commenced preaching at them on the assumption that, like him, they aren't actively involved in any subversive movements or efforts to change the status quo?

BRILLIANT. This kid is going places. :lol:

Yeah, some of us have been swinging this club since the Reagan days. But we're not in prison. Might be a reason for that.

Oh, yeah. We let the loudmouth guy with the pierced cranium take the blame.

So he found a forum full of people he doesn't know at all, and commenced preaching at them on the assumption that, like him, they aren't actively involved in any subversive movements or efforts to change the status quo?

BRILLIANT. This kid is going places. :lol:

Yeah, some of us have been swinging this club since the Reagan days. But we're not in prison. Might be a reason for that.

Oh, yeah. We let the loudmouth guy with the pierced cranium take the blame.

And he's always happy to, for some reason...

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 18, 2015, 04:30:24 am

So he found a forum full of people he doesn't know at all, and commenced preaching at them on the assumption that, like him, they aren't actively involved in any subversive movements or efforts to change the status quo?

BRILLIANT. This kid is going places. :lol:

Yeah, some of us have been swinging this club since the Reagan days. But we're not in prison. Might be a reason for that.

Oh, yeah. We let the loudmouth guy with the pierced cranium take the blame.

This guy edits himself more than a DPRNK newspaper. After trying to hide his sovereign status I can only wonder what else he's hiding. I won't though. So far it's all too boring to bother with.

Total control freak this "Chaos Advocate".

I didn't try to "hide" it. I reposted about it in another reply to not mix up a discussion, I already admitted I am the type called "Freemen on the land"(http://www.fmotl.com/) and a biased page by wikipedia on us: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land

Just a tip, kid: if you wait for opportunities to enact change to come along, you'll wait your whole life. You have to make your own opportunities, and while they might not align with your grandiose visions of leading the charge to sack Rome, if you try, you might find that you actually can make incremental differences that lead in the right direction. Systems don't just collapse, like they seem to in books and fantasies; they erode, and they change. I live in a place with legal marijuana, marriage equality, the right to die, free two-year college, and socialized health care. Tell me the people who made those things happen sat back and waited for an opportunity to enact change to just come along.

Go on, tell me.

Because then I'll just laugh in your face and go on doing what I'm doing in my spare time when I'm not learning to be a competent neurobiologist, which is working to incrementally increase public access to fresh, nutritious, free food, which I believe is a basic human right that should be guaranteed to everyone via the social contract.

So get off your lazy, whiny, entitled son of a Colonial ass and get out there and DO SOMETHING, or SHUT UP.

The economy is going into a recession and donald trump in the U.S is about to win who will mess up the neoliberal system big time(The EU don't like him, China doesn't like him, etc) and he is willing to go "hitler" in order to try to to prevent the U.S from losing superpower status which could lead to a "The World vs The U.S" scenario if far enough. And also I am not "preaching" this to you but discussing but isn't this a sign that eris/discordia will soon make a harvest of chaos out of the instability leaks? It kind of resembles before the roman empire collapses. Now how did they fall plus with the people being incharge of it having a dislike for Eris/Discordia? They lost to her influence(chaos) when the discord/disharmony within the empire grew.

Also I am not interested in pushing for reform but rather in the system collapsing and a revolutionary situation occurring. A total overthrow is what I would like to see. One of the best ways to do this is to vote for somebody who will be stupidly/arrogantly self-destructive enough to wreck the economy and nation.

Can you give us literally one way in which you have been or have concrete plans to be an advocate for chaos?

You missed this post.

Yes, but with many different paths to the same plans. I would want to be in one where I would succeed or be part of a success in it.

Let me give you the babies guide to spreading chaos>put googly eyes on posters>put coppies of dojin in the religion section of your local library>buy 50 gold fish, pass them out to random people you see out at 3am, give one to the cop who asks what you're doing. Put one in a mail box, propper postage.>put stickers everywhere

Go do those things, unless you're a pussy who can't handle REAL CHAOS.

Shit, just do something.

Well, a hunger strike in protest of the draconian gun control/gun bans by the fascist authoritarian-right winger(John Howard) is already planned and the reformist social-fascists that support gun control who call themselves the mainstream "new left" such as greens who will in reality not change anything. There are two main factions dominating what they call "mainstream politics" here, neoliberal fascists or social-fascists both of whom are anti-gun. Anti-Gun "Leftists" = Soft-core Fascists.

Will have to get the idea of the hunger strike around first then come together with those who want to talk about it to join in the discussion. Mostly consist of libertarians or "classical left". I've been helping spread the ideas of a pro-gun + pro-violent revolution classical left also elsewhere.

So you're not doing anything because of lack of opportunity, and because it would be a losing fight. But everyone else isn't doing anything for far less noble reasons you have ascribed to them in your own head, making you better and smarter than they are.

Do I have this right?

Nail/head. He wants to preach, but he feels he must preach down, because we aren't special snowflakes like he is.

I'm not even trying to "preach". The paranoia, I'm trying to discuss why there is so much non-change in the world and stagnation in order to come up with a reason as to why. Maybe Eris/Discordia could step in for us to get rid of it sooner?

So he found a forum full of people he doesn't know at all, and commenced preaching at them on the assumption that, like him, they aren't actively involved in any subversive movements or efforts to change the status quo?

BRILLIANT. This kid is going places. :lol:

Yeah, some of us have been swinging this club since the Reagan days. But we're not in prison. Might be a reason for that.

Oh, yeah. We let the loudmouth guy with the pierced cranium take the blame.

And he's always happy to, for some reason...

He's like a schmoo. He doesn't do anything, but he'll take the blame.

Already planning a hunger strike against the inhumane draconian right winger/neoliberal gun bans. Gun control is also one of the worst forms of torture. Without guns/weapons its like merely existing and not living.

So he found a forum full of people he doesn't know at all, and commenced preaching at them on the assumption that, like him, they aren't actively involved in any subversive movements or efforts to change the status quo?

BRILLIANT. This kid is going places. :lol:

Yeah, some of us have been swinging this club since the Reagan days. But we're not in prison. Might be a reason for that.

Oh, yeah. We let the loudmouth guy with the pierced cranium take the blame.

And he's always happy to, for some reason...

He's like a schmoo. He doesn't do anything, but he'll take the blame.

Already planning a hunger strike against the inhumane draconian right winger/neoliberal gun bans. Gun control is also one of the worst forms of torture. Without guns/weapons its like merely existing and not living.

So he found a forum full of people he doesn't know at all, and commenced preaching at them on the assumption that, like him, they aren't actively involved in any subversive movements or efforts to change the status quo?

BRILLIANT. This kid is going places. :lol:

Yeah, some of us have been swinging this club since the Reagan days. But we're not in prison. Might be a reason for that.

Oh, yeah. We let the loudmouth guy with the pierced cranium take the blame.

And he's always happy to, for some reason...

He's like a schmoo. He doesn't do anything, but he'll take the blame.

Already planning a hunger strike against the inhumane draconian right winger/neoliberal gun bans. Gun control is also one of the worst forms of torture. Without guns/weapons its like merely existing and not living.

So you're not doing anything because of lack of opportunity, and because it would be a losing fight. But everyone else isn't doing anything for far less noble reasons you have ascribed to them in your own head, making you better and smarter than they are.

Do I have this right?

Nail/head. He wants to preach, but he feels he must preach down, because we aren't special snowflakes like he is.

I'm not even trying to "preach". The paranoia, I'm trying to discuss why there is so much non-change in the world and stagnation in order to come up with a reason as to why. Maybe Eris/Discordia could step in for us to get rid of it sooner?

Except that you're wrong, change is everywhere all the time. You're just amazingly stupid and can't see beyond your bedroom in your mommy's house.

Just a tip, kid: if you wait for opportunities to enact change to come along, you'll wait your whole life. You have to make your own opportunities, and while they might not align with your grandiose visions of leading the charge to sack Rome, if you try, you might find that you actually can make incremental differences that lead in the right direction. Systems don't just collapse, like they seem to in books and fantasies; they erode, and they change. I live in a place with legal marijuana, marriage equality, the right to die, free two-year college, and socialized health care. Tell me the people who made those things happen sat back and waited for an opportunity to enact change to just come along.

Go on, tell me.

Because then I'll just laugh in your face and go on doing what I'm doing in my spare time when I'm not learning to be a competent neurobiologist, which is working to incrementally increase public access to fresh, nutritious, free food, which I believe is a basic human right that should be guaranteed to everyone via the social contract.

So get off your lazy, whiny, entitled son of a Colonial ass and get out there and DO SOMETHING, or SHUT UP.

The economy is going into a recession and donald trump in the U.S is about to win who will mess up the neoliberal system big time(The EU don't like him, China doesn't like him, etc) and he is willing to go "hitler" in order to try to to prevent the U.S from losing superpower status which could lead to a "The World vs The U.S" scenario if far enough. And also I am not "preaching" this to you but discussing but isn't this a sign that eris/discordia will soon make a harvest of chaos out of the instability leaks? It kind of resembles before the roman empire collapses. Now how did they fall plus with the people being incharge of it having a dislike for Eris/Discordia? They lost to her influence(chaos) when the discord/disharmony within the empire grew.

Also I am not interested in pushing for reform but rather in the system collapsing and a revolutionary situation occurring. A total overthrow is what I would like to see. One of the best ways to do this is to vote for somebody who will be stupidly/arrogantly self-destructive enough to wreck the economy and nation.

What you want isn't a total overthrow. What you want is for YOU to be in charge, in a fascist dictatorship in which you can put women in breeding camps and perform torturous human experiments. Fortunately, you're just some moronic pissant teenager typing fantasy stories from mummy's house in a non-country, so that isn't a real concern.

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

"Hi, I want the overthrow of the government so that I can build breeding camps for genetically engineered babies, and I'm going to skip dinner until you give me guns".

:lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

I'm not sure if motherfucker just doesn't understand the term "stillborn" or if he's really all for women spending decades in fruitless pregnancies while they "work the kinks out" on impossible feats of genetic engineering.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 18, 2015, 05:18:47 pm

So you're not doing anything because of lack of opportunity, and because it would be a losing fight. But everyone else isn't doing anything for far less noble reasons you have ascribed to them in your own head, making you better and smarter than they are.

Do I have this right?

Nail/head. He wants to preach, but he feels he must preach down, because we aren't special snowflakes like he is.

I'm not even trying to "preach". The paranoia, I'm trying to discuss why there is so much non-change in the world and stagnation in order to come up with a reason as to why. Maybe Eris/Discordia could step in for us to get rid of it sooner?

You weren't "discussing" anything. You were here to tell us all why we're DOING IT WRONG, and we laughed at you, which made you tell us even HARDER, but we just laughed at you more.

You're not communicating. That's your fault, not ours. I'd explain, but the problem with a lack of communication is that I can't explain, because you can't or won't listen past your arrogance and your butthurt. This is why you are - at this moment - a DUMBASS.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 18, 2015, 05:21:34 pm

Already planning a hunger strike against the inhumane draconian right winger/neoliberal gun bans. Gun control is also one of the worst forms of torture. Without guns/weapons its like merely existing and not living.

Already planning a hunger strike against the inhumane draconian right winger/neoliberal gun bans. Gun control is also one of the worst forms of torture. Without guns/weapons its like merely existing and not living.

Newsfeed? Because this looks like newsfeeed.

That might be newsfeed. Some of the earlier butthurt might be worth harvesting, too.

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

Unionization.

Well, you'd better get started then. You know, organizing.

Well Chaos and Discord are two different things are you believe. Chaos to have some temporary destruction to have something new emerge. Essentially it means change and unions are a machine of change which will make the CEOs lose more money. It's also more alikeable to a democratic revolt inside an environment against a class of people with autocratic power who are even more orderly(bosses).

Yep. Great. Let's see some results. Chop chop.

There already are and right now with some movements I endorse being involved. Quite recent too:

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

Are you coordinating with an existing group, or recruiting on your lonesome?

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

:lulz: :lulz:

It's been real guys but the work day is ending and I've gotta home and thought-form up something to do my laundry for me while I go on a hunger strike and wait for the revolution to bring me a gun.

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

:lulz: :lulz:

It's been real guys but the work day is ending and I've gotta home and thought-form up something to do my laundry for me while I go on a hunger strike and wait for the revolution to bring me a gun.

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

Unionization.

Well, you'd better get started then. You know, organizing.

Well Chaos and Discord are two different things are you believe. Chaos to have some temporary destruction to have something new emerge. Essentially it means change and unions are a machine of change which will make the CEOs lose more money. It's also more alikeable to a democratic revolt inside an environment against a class of people with autocratic power who are even more orderly(bosses).

Yep. Great. Let's see some results. Chop chop.

There already are and right now with some movements I endorse being involved. Quite recent too:

This guy edits himself more than a DPRNK newspaper. After trying to hide his sovereign status I can only wonder what else he's hiding. I won't though. So far it's all too boring to bother with.

Total control freak this "Chaos Advocate".

I didn't try to "hide" it. I reposted about it in another reply to not mix up a discussion, I already admitted I am the type called "Freemen on the land"(http://www.fmotl.com/) and a biased page by wikipedia on us: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freemen_on_the_land

Freemen on the land are assholes. Not sure if that news has hit Australia yet...?

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Hoopla on September 18, 2015, 10:40:25 pm

Meanwhile, back in reality, ISIS is testing chemical weapons on captured Kurdish fighters.

That can't be nearly as bad as gun control!!!

Those Kurds have it pretty good compared to ChaosAdvocate. They only get locked up in prisons where they are beaten, cut open, electrocuted, burned and sexually violated for the heinous crime of suggesting the Kurds as a people actually exist and have a culture, or have lunatics like ISIS treat them as literal guinea pigs for their forays into WMD tech. They have no idea how privileged they are compared to an 18 year old Australian who's not allowed access to guns.

I haven't read a thing you've said, but from responses, you've got some problems, you're one of those weirdo punks who is a complete asshole about it.

You can be nihilistic, but part of nihilism is you're shit too. You can be revolutionary, but fucking you need people for that, and you can't get people on your side by being a dick. Even if you get people on your side you're getting people who are angry on your side. Which angry people are prone to just sit and talk bullshit instead of doing anything.

In conclusion. Listen to some crass, some AJJ, some pat the bunny, and a smidgen of jeffery lewis.

Meanwhile, back in reality, ISIS is testing chemical weapons on captured Kurdish fighters.

That can't be nearly as bad as gun control!!!

Those Kurds have it pretty good compared to ChaosAdvocate. They only get locked up in prisons where they are beaten, cut open, electrocuted, burned and sexually violated for the heinous crime of suggesting the Kurds as a people actually exist and have a culture, or have lunatics like ISIS treat them as literal guinea pigs for their forays into WMD tech. They have no idea how privileged they are compared to an 18 year old Australian who's not allowed access to guns.

Meanwhile, back in reality, ISIS is testing chemical weapons on captured Kurdish fighters.

That can't be nearly as bad as gun control!!!

Those Kurds have it pretty good compared to ChaosAdvocate. They only get locked up in prisons where they are beaten, cut open, electrocuted, burned and sexually violated for the heinous crime of suggesting the Kurds as a people actually exist and have a culture, or have lunatics like ISIS treat them as literal guinea pigs for their forays into WMD tech. They have no idea how privileged they are compared to an 18 year old Australian who's not allowed access to guns.

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

Are you coordinating with an existing group, or recruiting on your lonesome?

Yes, libertarian organizations and also anybody who hates gun control.

Just a tip, kid: if you wait for opportunities to enact change to come along, you'll wait your whole life. You have to make your own opportunities, and while they might not align with your grandiose visions of leading the charge to sack Rome, if you try, you might find that you actually can make incremental differences that lead in the right direction. Systems don't just collapse, like they seem to in books and fantasies; they erode, and they change. I live in a place with legal marijuana, marriage equality, the right to die, free two-year college, and socialized health care. Tell me the people who made those things happen sat back and waited for an opportunity to enact change to just come along.

Go on, tell me.

Because then I'll just laugh in your face and go on doing what I'm doing in my spare time when I'm not learning to be a competent neurobiologist, which is working to incrementally increase public access to fresh, nutritious, free food, which I believe is a basic human right that should be guaranteed to everyone via the social contract.

So get off your lazy, whiny, entitled son of a Colonial ass and get out there and DO SOMETHING, or SHUT UP.

The economy is going into a recession and donald trump in the U.S is about to win who will mess up the neoliberal system big time(The EU don't like him, China doesn't like him, etc) and he is willing to go "hitler" in order to try to to prevent the U.S from losing superpower status which could lead to a "The World vs The U.S" scenario if far enough. And also I am not "preaching" this to you but discussing but isn't this a sign that eris/discordia will soon make a harvest of chaos out of the instability leaks? It kind of resembles before the roman empire collapses. Now how did they fall plus with the people being incharge of it having a dislike for Eris/Discordia? They lost to her influence(chaos) when the discord/disharmony within the empire grew.

Also I am not interested in pushing for reform but rather in the system collapsing and a revolutionary situation occurring. A total overthrow is what I would like to see. One of the best ways to do this is to vote for somebody who will be stupidly/arrogantly self-destructive enough to wreck the economy and nation.

What you want isn't a total overthrow. What you want is for YOU to be in charge, in a fascist dictatorship in which you can put women in breeding camps and perform torturous human experiments. Fortunately, you're just some moronic pissant teenager typing fantasy stories from mummy's house in a non-country, so that isn't a real concern.

Nope, for a better off society that will solve our current problems. Making up conspiracy theories on me again? The scientific part does not have to be done after a revolution, I could try it myself right now in the CURRENT society if I somehow managed to buy all the materials and a place to do it. Maybe it would work even better in the current society pre-revolution compared to the direct democracy the far-left revolutionaries want in that it would attract the attention of CEOs, mad scientists or military officials to sponsor and support it. Infact the U.S government may already be doing some experiments without public knowledge(A very unusual creature that looked like a mixture of different animal traits once washed up on a shore from an island where they do experiments). I have widespread interests and the scientific one would be done by myself with the resources and not using any political power. It can be done both before or after revolution, infact it would be harder after a far-left direct democracy revolution since if you anger/offend the masses they can stomp on you in such a society which means storm the said lab with guns after finding out if they don't like the idea.

And nope I specifically said for the scientific community cloning/transgenic modification part that it will NOT use a human or living host. You do NOT have to be incharge to do it but get the money to perform it yourself and buy the materials to experiment INFORMALLY. Instead it will be a class container where you feed the cloned living thing nutrients and have temperatures that simulate that of the host. Why are you so opposed to change if it will not hurt anyone? It will use an ALTERNATIVE way instead of a host, a container that will simulate the conditions of a host.

And its not merely "fantasy". It is a projection of exactly what I would do if I had the resources for it.

Also Australia is officially classified as a "country" even by the U.S government though I consider it a satellite state of the imperial/globalist powers. It can be a military superpower(If they built nukes) because it has a massive uranium/mine supply which can be used to build heaps of nukes to take out any current superpower fairly quick.

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

I haven't read a thing you've said, but from responses, you've got some problems, you're one of those weirdo punks who is a complete asshole about it.

You can be nihilistic, but part of nihilism is you're shit too. You can be revolutionary, but fucking you need people for that, and you can't get people on your side by being a dick. Even if you get people on your side you're getting people who are angry on your side. Which angry people are prone to just sit and talk bullshit instead of doing anything.

In conclusion. Listen to some crass, some AJJ, some pat the bunny, and a smidgen of jeffery lewis.

I am acting "asshole" a bit because of the rudeness of some of the posters on this thread. Eye for an eye.

Meanwhile, back in reality, ISIS is testing chemical weapons on captured Kurdish fighters.

That can't be nearly as bad as gun control!!!

Those Kurds have it pretty good compared to ChaosAdvocate. They only get locked up in prisons where they are beaten, cut open, electrocuted, burned and sexually violated for the heinous crime of suggesting the Kurds as a people actually exist and have a culture, or have lunatics like ISIS treat them as literal guinea pigs for their forays into WMD tech. They have no idea how privileged they are compared to an 18 year old Australian who's not allowed access to guns.

I meant worst form of psychological torture, it takes way your ability to defend yourself. And attacks my sense of identity.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 19, 2015, 02:51:13 pm

Infact the U.S government may already be doing some experiments without public knowledge(A very unusual creature that looked like a mixture of different animal traits once washed up on a shore from an island where they do experiments).

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

Are you coordinating with an existing group, or recruiting on your lonesome?

Yes, libertarian organizations and also anybody who hates gun control.

Okay, I'm a little confused by this answer. Is there a specific libertarian group or groups that you've started talking with about this? Or are you just assuming all these people will materialize when you announce your awesome idea because of how cool and smart you are?

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 19, 2015, 06:54:26 pm

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

We have a rule about proxy IPs.

>he doesn't have two computers, one for illegal shitOne for games and internet

And nope I specifically said for the scientific community cloning/transgenic modification part that it will NOT use a human or living host. You do NOT have to be incharge to do it but get the money to perform it yourself and buy the materials to experiment INFORMALLY. Instead it will be a class container where you feed the cloned living thing nutrients and have temperatures that simulate that of the host. Why are you so opposed to change if it will not hurt anyone? It will use an ALTERNATIVE way instead of a host, a container that will simulate the conditions of a host.

When you are starting with the presupposition that you are doing genetic engineering experiments on humans, what the fuck do you think a "cloned living thing" IS?

And again, not even starting on the fact that "splicing wings into human beings" is just not how genetics works, it's not how biology works, it's not how genetic engineering works.

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

Trolllolololo

:troll:

Well played, you had me going for a while there.

Stop saying he's a troll.

I haven't ate all his bait yet.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Wizard Joseph on September 19, 2015, 10:24:37 pm

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

Trolllolololo

:troll:

Well played, you had me going for a while there.

Stop saying he's a troll.

I haven't ate all his bait yet.

Stop chewing and just gobble it down then. Christ Poptart, you used to be so much faster.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 19, 2015, 10:29:54 pm

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

Trolllolololo

:troll:

Well played, you had me going for a while there.

Stop saying he's a troll.

I haven't ate all his bait yet.

Stop chewing and just gobble it down then. Christ Poptart, you used to be so much faster.

What if he says more stupid shit?

Who will be there to call him autistic once you label him a troll and ignore him?

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

Are you coordinating with an existing group, or recruiting on your lonesome?

Yes, libertarian organizations and also anybody who hates gun control.

Okay, I'm a little confused by this answer. Is there a specific libertarian group or groups that you've started talking with about this? Or are you just assuming all these people will materialize when you announce your awesome idea because of how cool and smart you are?

If I told you how do I know you will not use it against me/us or do something to bring harm? I can tell you though that both Libertarian-Capitalists and the Libertarian/Democratic-Left(socialists) are in favor. They are nearly indistinguishable aside from different groups and economic beliefs. There is one new political party which has already been registered a few months ago that closely resembles the French Revolution ideology.

Infact the U.S government may already be doing some experiments without public knowledge(A very unusual creature that looked like a mixture of different animal traits once washed up on a shore from an island where they do experiments).

Skull island?

Long island*. This specimen here looks to be a combination of human genes and another animal or something else entirely, the shore was also close to an island used for biological experiments by the U.S government: http://weirdthings.com/2011/02/creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

We have a rule about proxy IPs.

>he doesn't have two computers, one for illegal shitOne for games and internet

I don't need any government in my life that treats all people as criminals, fuck the corporate government, their corporate puppet-masters and all authority figures(bosses). Look at how people in France deal with them, if only we were like them. I do not need their "protection" and I do not want them to do ANYTHING for me, I demand the right to defend myself. It is not a democracy:

Fact is I do NOT consent and do not want to consent. It is illegally invading my right to privacy and democratic rights. It is STALKING and illegal invasion of my privacy. I do not consent to their data retention. I will resist Fascism with all my might. The fact I am not carrying out commerce with this computer should also give me the right to not consent to illegal stalking and spying on me. The government could also be a corporation in disguise as it is registered as one in Washington D.C, hence it does not obey the democracy + common law(eg. committing thuggery and kidnap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsoUArgpo9s) and does not act like one. Its also not illegal to use a proxy.

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

We have a rule about proxy IPs.

>he doesn't have two computers, one for illegal shitOne for games and internet

I don't need any government in my life that treats all people as criminals, fuck the corporate government, their corporate puppet-masters and all authority figures(bosses). Look at how people in France deal with them, if only we were like them. I do not need their "protection" and I do not want them to do ANYTHING for me, I demand the right to defend myself. It is not a democracy:

Fact is I do NOT consent and do not want to consent. It is illegally invading my right to privacy and democratic rights. It is STALKING and illegal invasion of my privacy. I do not consent to their data retention. I will resist Fascism with all my might. The fact I am not carrying out commerce with this computer should also give me the right to not consent to illegal stalking and spying on me. The government could also be a corporation in disguise as it is registered as one in Washington D.C, hence it does not obey the democracy + common law(eg. committing thuggery and kidnap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsoUArgpo9s) and does not act like one. Its also not illegal to use a proxy.

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

Are you coordinating with an existing group, or recruiting on your lonesome?

Yes, libertarian organizations and also anybody who hates gun control.

Okay, I'm a little confused by this answer. Is there a specific libertarian group or groups that you've started talking with about this? Or are you just assuming all these people will materialize when you announce your awesome idea because of how cool and smart you are?

If I told you how do I know you will not use it against me/us or do something to bring harm? I can tell you though that both Libertarian-Capitalists and the Libertarian/Democratic-Left(socialists) are in favor. They are nearly indistinguishable aside from different groups and economic beliefs. There is one new political party which has already been registered a few months ago that closely resembles the French Revolution ideology.

I am interested in activism tactics regardless of how fucking stupid the cause is. Obviously if there's something where posting it online will spoil the fun then don't, but this seems pretty straightforward and not like the government can a) arrest you for planning it or b) stop you from doing it with advanced notice.

You have two large(?) political groups that are in favor of gun rights, and a third recently established political party that thinks the reign of terror is a pretty good idea? Have you talked with leadership or influential members of any of these parties about the feasibility of a hunger strike as part of your campaign, and what were their responses? What I'm trying to get at with these questions is do you have a plan or just an idea?

For an Australian, it sure is funny how your IP shows you to be in New York

Its called VPN because I am in the "Go Dark" campaign you see? The mass surveillance laws are psychological rape: https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/digital-freedom-and-privacy/go-dark-against-data-retention/go-dark-against-data-retention

We have a rule about proxy IPs.

>he doesn't have two computers, one for illegal shitOne for games and internet

I don't need any government in my life that treats all people as criminals, fuck the corporate government, their corporate puppet-masters and all authority figures(bosses). Look at how people in France deal with them, if only we were like them. I do not need their "protection" and I do not want them to do ANYTHING for me, I demand the right to defend myself. It is not a democracy:

Fact is I do NOT consent and do not want to consent. It is illegally invading my right to privacy and democratic rights. It is STALKING and illegal invasion of my privacy. I do not consent to their data retention. I will resist Fascism with all my might. The fact I am not carrying out commerce with this computer should also give me the right to not consent to illegal stalking and spying on me. The government could also be a corporation in disguise as it is registered as one in Washington D.C, hence it does not obey the democracy + common law(eg. committing thuggery and kidnap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsoUArgpo9s) and does not act like one. Its also not illegal to use a proxy.

So, if I understand this correctly, Chaos Advocate's one thing is that he's planning a hunger strike for gun rights? Can you elaborate on your methods? You already covered your reasons.

In the near future me and all pro-gun people will come together and agree to refuse to eat for a certain amount of time in some time. Then announce that a hunger strike is being done to protest against draconian gun control, to demand that it be abolished or loosened.

Are you coordinating with an existing group, or recruiting on your lonesome?

Yes, libertarian organizations and also anybody who hates gun control.

Okay, I'm a little confused by this answer. Is there a specific libertarian group or groups that you've started talking with about this? Or are you just assuming all these people will materialize when you announce your awesome idea because of how cool and smart you are?

If I told you how do I know you will not use it against me/us or do something to bring harm? I can tell you though that both Libertarian-Capitalists and the Libertarian/Democratic-Left(socialists) are in favor. They are nearly indistinguishable aside from different groups and economic beliefs. There is one new political party which has already been registered a few months ago that closely resembles the French Revolution ideology.

I am interested in activism tactics regardless of how fucking stupid the cause is. Obviously if there's something where posting it online will spoil the fun then don't, but this seems pretty straightforward and not like the government can a) arrest you for planning it or b) stop you from doing it with advanced notice.

You have two large(?) political groups that are in favor of gun rights, and a third recently established political party that thinks the reign of terror is a pretty good idea? Have you talked with leadership or influential members of any of these parties about the feasibility of a hunger strike as part of your campaign, and what were their responses? What I'm trying to get at with these questions is do you have a plan or just an idea?

I'm still waiting currently, also its better to have the element of surprise. I am very secretive in nearly everything I do so whoever I am up against cannot predict my moves. Also its risky in that if a revolution does break out they would know who to go after/target in order to weaken the people doing it.

The previous prime minister in power and financial guy messed up Australia's economy pretty badly apparently but they lost the leadership election before they could throw more monkey wrenches to clog the system. Unemployment percent that has overtaken the U.S by nearly 10x more in 1-2 years, ridiculously expensive housing bubble for first home buyers that exceeds the U.S and multiplied debt rate. The failed chocolate factory tour and upgrade deal also contributed.

Also its not one or two but a network of micro/minor parties up against the corporate funded 3 parties(Labor, Liberal and Greens who are all neoliberal, only difference is hardcore to most softcore). It works with a two party system("Two party preferred) identical to that of the U.S. The most funded parties get the highest change of taking power. The grassroots campaign is to first raise awareness in all people about this issue.

I also have my own methods. Encourage people to vote for somebody who is extremely stupid enough to be or will be a monkey wrench to the system + its foreign globalist/neo-colonial policies. Rand Paul/Trump are potential good candidates for the U.S as a monkey wrench to corporate globalization and Tony Abbott for Aus though I hope the Malcolm guy will also be a monkey wrench to the current system and mess it up.

From what I've read about chaos theory, chaos also is related to many different things going in different directions. In the "change" type of chaos, it requires a combination of many different factors. It might become possible soon since Australia's economic crisis severity has overtaken the U.S, possibly turning it into another "Greece" or perhaps even India/Africa(Economically and work rights due to lack of union militancy to defend from neocon attacks on it) if allowed to continue down that path. Hold the pendulum in one direction back enough for it to swing back violently.

Infact the U.S government may already be doing some experiments without public knowledge(A very unusual creature that looked like a mixture of different animal traits once washed up on a shore from an island where they do experiments).

Skull island?

Long island*. This specimen here looks to be a combination of human genes and another animal or something else entirely, the shore was also close to an island used for biological experiments by the U.S government: http://weirdthings.com/2011/02/creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

Infact the U.S government may already be doing some experiments without public knowledge(A very unusual creature that looked like a mixture of different animal traits once washed up on a shore from an island where they do experiments).

Skull island?

Long island*. This specimen here looks to be a combination of human genes and another animal or something else entirely, the shore was also close to an island used for biological experiments by the U.S government: http://weirdthings.com/2011/02/creature-washes-up-on-long-island/

Oh, you mean the thing that resembled exactly what a dead raccoon would look like after a few days in the ocean?

Also, anyone who considers the French Revolution an ideal model for political change is either trolling or monumentally stupid. Possibly both!

The French Revolution(1789-1790s) created a culture of anti-elitism, spitting on authority figures and constant protesting/rioting which still exists today. It led to the June Rebellion of 1832 and also to the first attempt at anarchism/social anarchy(Paris Commune 1871): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAn8SB-BbdE

People today there still being fiercely defensive of their rights and reacting very aggressively such as blocking off tunnels or throwing molotovs when they are made to give up 1 or two freedoms/rights today there because of that revolution. The French Revolution was the first revolution where the general people slew the elites that held them back, the new replacing the old. So isn't that also kind of chaotic(From what I have learned about it so far because I am new to it)?

I hate the elites for holding us back including from any potential discovery of the unusual through coverups, I wish they all got guillotined too someday.

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

Unionization.

Well, you'd better get started then. You know, organizing.

Well Chaos and Discord are two different things are you believe. Chaos to have some temporary destruction to have something new emerge. Essentially it means change and unions are a machine of change which will make the CEOs lose more money. It's also more alikeable to a democratic revolt inside an environment against a class of people with autocratic power who are even more orderly(bosses).

Yep. Great. Let's see some results. Chop chop.

There already are and right now with some movements I endorse being involved. Quite recent too:

And then Napoleon showed up, completely re-ordered the society, and got loads of French common folk slaughtered in wars that were mainly won by having more bodies to throw away than the other guys.

Things fall apart and then immediately get put back together. A massive push towards disorder led to a brutal and deadly backswing into order.

Also, most of the major French Revolutionaries got themselves killed. So, you know, if you aren't actually planning to LIVE in the world after turning it upside-down, then go for broke, I guess.

Oh, ok. Well I meant the original intention of the revolution and what it accomplished/used to be before it was crushed, where even starving homeless people bravely rose up against the elite etc. Maximilien Robiespierre made a great effort in trying to catch people like Napoleon that would re-order it but using his influence to start a reign of "terrorism"/"entropic chaos" known as "the great terror", he did go over the top a bit. It both started with him and ended with him too(If you know what I mean). It gave inspiration for other revolution attempts such as the June Rebellion(1832) or the Paris Communard Revolt(1871 and first attempt at Anarchy/Social Anarchy).

Also just to let you know I am new to chaos theory but I am using what I know so far. As of right now I lean more towards the "disorder/entropy" aspect because I believe we are in need of it more than the order part and are out of balance.

.Btw I've found a solution to start destabilisation. Get third world sweatshops to rebel first or do mass strikes so first world corporations lose access to what allows them to afford good conditions for first world citizens without losing too much profit.

Great, great. And how do you plan to do this? Specifically, I mean. Concrete steps to attain this initial goal?

Unionization.

Well, you'd better get started then. You know, organizing.

Well Chaos and Discord are two different things are you believe. Chaos to have some temporary destruction to have something new emerge. Essentially it means change and unions are a machine of change which will make the CEOs lose more money. It's also more alikeable to a democratic revolt inside an environment against a class of people with autocratic power who are even more orderly(bosses).

Yep. Great. Let's see some results. Chop chop.

There already are and right now with some movements I endorse being involved. Quite recent too:

Okay, okay, I know I'm like 8 pages back (hey I was gone for a week - live the chaos!) but.... :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz: :lulz:

I missed it COMPLETELY. :lol: I bet he does sigils, too. Because he's a mover and a shaker.

:lol: :lol:Every successful revolution needs a strategic sigilist. He's doing his part, it's EVERYONE ELSE that needs to get off their asses and reap the benefits of his thoughts.

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

The idea of "perpetual revolution" that the leaders of the French Murderpalooza advocated was unsustainable and also stupid. People don't like living in abject fear for their personal safety, and a state of affairs in which anyone who didn't like you could get you executed is pretty unsafe. Things had to change, and part of that change included slitting Marat's throat in the bathtub.

Also, the perpetual revolution concept is not exactly different from the state of perpetual war that governments like to use to justify extraordinary powers. Fear and instability makes people knuckle down and find ways to impose order.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 21, 2015, 05:49:46 pm

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 21, 2015, 05:57:15 pm

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He does not know that chaos theory is math.He does not know the difference between strategy, tactics, and IMT.He does not know about thermal imaging being cheap and available.

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos>organize a hunger strike>organize

Take the real American routeBuy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each. Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns. Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention.

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He does not know that chaos theory is math.He does not know the difference between strategy, tactics, and IMT.He does not know about thermal imaging being cheap and available.

He is perfect.

Yeah, it's just... amazing. The Dunning Kruger effect is really an understatement with this one.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Good Reverend Roger on September 21, 2015, 07:05:19 pm

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He does not know that chaos theory is math.He does not know the difference between strategy, tactics, and IMT.He does not know about thermal imaging being cheap and available.

He is perfect.

Yeah, it's just... amazing. The Dunning Kruger effect is really an understatement with this one.

Exactly that. But guys like him can provide an evening's entertainment when they grow a pair.

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He's too fragile to organize a revolution, but if someone else organizes one, he can probably like, hold real still or something.

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He's too fragile to organize a revolution, but if someone else organizes one, he can probably like, hold real still or something.

He's like those people who use guns to make themselves feel powerful and in control. Only he doesn't have a gun. And never has. He just thinks it might work if he had one and the government is TERRIBLE PEOPLE for not letting him have his penis substitute.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Hoopla on September 22, 2015, 06:08:12 am

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He does not know that chaos theory is math.He does not know the difference between strategy, tactics, and IMT.He does not know about thermal imaging being cheap and available.

He is perfect.

Yeah, it's just... amazing. The Dunning Kruger effect is really an understatement with this one.

Remember how I used to complain about how depressing it was to begin to realize that you're kind of dumb?

I don't feel so dumb anymore. Thanks, CA.

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Hoopla on September 22, 2015, 06:08:38 am

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He's too fragile to organize a revolution, but if someone else organizes one, he can probably like, hold real still or something.

1) Scrap what you've come up with and start over. You have absorbed bad data and are getting bad results.

2) The road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

3) Chaos Theory is about math. Discordianism is Chaos Theology.

Chaos theology then* I used that term cause I also see it as something metaphysical. There are times or places where change is more or less constant.

Also what about Maximilien Robespierre's efforts to prevent the French Revolution from being re-ordered and brought under another elite? Any idea what wrong wrong?

Murdering everyone who disagrees with you is imposing your own order.

"Reign of terror" was the name for the time period. He did not officially implement it himself, only used influence and words to create such a situation where people suspected of trying to re-order things were eliminated by the crowd.

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He's too fragile to organize a revolution, but if someone else organizes one, he can probably like, hold real still or something.

He's like those people who use guns to make themselves feel powerful and in control. Only he doesn't have a gun. And never has. He just thinks it might work if he had one and the government is TERRIBLE PEOPLE for not letting him have his penis substitute.

Being able to protect yourself does not equal "in control". What you say can rather be applied to the people who take it away from you. Also I'm not necessarily saying that is 100% what Eris/Discordia might stand for but ironic how you oppose war/battle culture being a proclaimed follower of her when in history she's known as a war goddess who goes alongside Aries and Enyo(A goddess that relished on blood + slaughter of wars). I simply enjoy a militaristic/war lifestyle, many more people during the old days did too.

The naive pacifists without firearms would not survive in any real conflict. Gun control also killed millions by disarming holocaust victims, the Nazis took away their guns allowing them to be killed and not fight back. If they all had guns they would have fought back like in the Warsaw Uprising and the holocaust may have never happened. In every conflict scenario the people without the guns are always the ones who get sent to concentration/labor camps to die or get executed/beheaded. 100% of the civilians beheaded/executed by ISIS either surrendered and gave up their firearms or refused to own them.

If I were allowed to have firearms for defense I would prefer to get an AK(47 edition).

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He does not know that chaos theory is math.He does not know the difference between strategy, tactics, and IMT.He does not know about thermal imaging being cheap and available.

He is perfect.

And you do not know about what EMP does to thermal imaging and ways that can interfere with it(http://modernsurvivalblog.com/security/how-to-block-ir-infrared-thermal-imaging/). During an armed revolutionary conflict the armed parties involved send certain people to do scouting and use guerrilla warfare occasionally.

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos>organize a hunger strike>organize

Take the real American routeBuy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each. Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns. Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention.

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.

More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Being able to protect yourself does not equal "in control". What you say can rather be applied to the people who take it away from you. Also I'm not necessarily saying that is 100% what Eris/Discordia might stand for but ironic how you oppose war/battle culture being a proclaimed follower of her when in history she's known as a war goddess who goes alongside Aries and Enyo(A goddess that relished on blood + slaughter of wars). I simply enjoy a militaristic/war lifestyle, many more people during the old days did too.

The naive pacifists without firearms would not survive in any real conflict. Gun control also killed millions by disarming holocaust victims, the Nazis took away their guns allowing them to be killed and not fight back. If they all had guns they would have fought back like in the Warsaw Uprising and the holocaust may have never happened. In every conflict scenario the people without the guns are always the ones who get sent to concentration/labor camps to die or get executed/beheaded. 100% of the civilians beheaded/executed by ISIS either surrendered and gave up their firearms or refused to own them.

If I were allowed to have firearms for defense I would prefer to get an AK(47 edition).

No, you think you would prefer that culture, but you don't know because you've never lived it.

And if you think this place is for Historically Accurate Eris, well shit you're even more lost than I thought.

Being able to protect yourself does not equal "in control". What you say can rather be applied to the people who take it away from you. Also I'm not necessarily saying that is 100% what Eris/Discordia might stand for but ironic how you oppose war/battle culture being a proclaimed follower of her when in history she's known as a war goddess who goes alongside Aries and Enyo(A goddess that relished on blood + slaughter of wars). I simply enjoy a militaristic/war lifestyle, many more people during the old days did too.

The naive pacifists without firearms would not survive in any real conflict. Gun control also killed millions by disarming holocaust victims, the Nazis took away their guns allowing them to be killed and not fight back. If they all had guns they would have fought back like in the Warsaw Uprising and the holocaust may have never happened. In every conflict scenario the people without the guns are always the ones who get sent to concentration/labor camps to die or get executed/beheaded. 100% of the civilians beheaded/executed by ISIS either surrendered and gave up their firearms or refused to own them.

If I were allowed to have firearms for defense I would prefer to get an AK(47 edition).

No, you think you would prefer that culture, but you don't know because you've never lived it.

And if you think this place is for Historically Accurate Eris, well shit you're even more lost than I thought.

Just stating what I know so far. That culture is about defending yourself and standing up to any who try to trample on you. The people who have lived that culture were the ones that ended up forming guerrilla resistance forces in WWII against the Nazis.

Being able to protect yourself does not equal "in control". What you say can rather be applied to the people who take it away from you. Also I'm not necessarily saying that is 100% what Eris/Discordia might stand for but ironic how you oppose war/battle culture being a proclaimed follower of her when in history she's known as a war goddess who goes alongside Aries and Enyo(A goddess that relished on blood + slaughter of wars). I simply enjoy a militaristic/war lifestyle, many more people during the old days did too.

The naive pacifists without firearms would not survive in any real conflict. Gun control also killed millions by disarming holocaust victims, the Nazis took away their guns allowing them to be killed and not fight back. If they all had guns they would have fought back like in the Warsaw Uprising and the holocaust may have never happened. In every conflict scenario the people without the guns are always the ones who get sent to concentration/labor camps to die or get executed/beheaded. 100% of the civilians beheaded/executed by ISIS either surrendered and gave up their firearms or refused to own them.

If I were allowed to have firearms for defense I would prefer to get an AK(47 edition).

No, you think you would prefer that culture, but you don't know because you've never lived it.

And if you think this place is for Historically Accurate Eris, well shit you're even more lost than I thought.

Just stating what I know so far. That culture is about defending yourself and standing up to any who try to trample on you. The people who have lived that culture were the ones that ended up forming guerrilla resistance forces in WWII against the Nazis.

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos>organize a hunger strike>organize

Take the real American routeBuy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each. Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns. Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention.

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.

More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Oh, I see. You're more of an "idea guy."

I mentioned Marat some posts back. He was an idea guy, and look where that got him. Got his throat slit in the bathtub, is where.

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos>organize a hunger strike>organize

Take the real American routeBuy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each. Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns. Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention.

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.

More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Holy mother of Zod I missed this one.

You do realize you are bringing literally nothing to the table, right?

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos>organize a hunger strike>organize

Take the real American routeBuy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each. Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns. Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention.

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.

More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Oh, I see. You're more of an "idea guy."

I mentioned Marat some posts back. He was an idea guy, and look where that got him. Got his throat slit in the bathtub, is where.

Well what kind of fool lets literally anybody into their bathroom anyway? I am personally suspicious/fearful about letting any strangers into my private space. Especially when thats the most defenseless time and you for the sake of privacy? This is why its important to especially keep a gun if your involved in change, even moreso when being confronted by people of it. If they pull a knife, jump back and quickly draw your pistol. An armed person who knows how to fight in order to protect themselves heavily involved in a movement/time of change would be as difficult to kill as a military general. Or just wear a stab/projectile proof body armor underneath. Anybody who wants to assassinate/kill you would think twice if everybody knew you were a person often heavily armed who knows how to fight in order to protect themselves(Be somebody who is known to be extremely difficult to take down physically).

Also if your an idea person what happens if nobody but those within the circle know that its you doing it?

You don't want Maximum Eris. There is a reason Discordians do not worship. It is much too dangerous.

What stuff does Maximum Eris do, especially to worshippers and any hosts used for her Chaos(Radical Changes)?

Serious question, kid. Have you read the Principia Discordia?

Yes, I've read some of it. But I've never come across any parts that mention a "Maximum Eris"? That may have been the type/aspect I've been looking for but unsure if it is ideal or not. But I did hear that Maximum Eris is good for anti-authority stuff or things that involve rebelling, revolutionary wars etc.

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos>organize a hunger strike>organize

Take the real American routeBuy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each. Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns. Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention.

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.

More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Holy mother of Zod I missed this one.

You do realize you are bringing literally nothing to the table, right?

Actually I am in a form similar to how Jean-Paul Marat did as the guy on this page says. His efforts may have also led to the creation of an egregore(s) which was carried on during the June Rebellion of 1834 and the Paris Commune in 1871. Then eventually used for unionism, etc. The French Revolution occurred partly because of him, it just depends to what degree of publicity or level you carry it out.

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos>organize a hunger strike>organize

Take the real American routeBuy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each. Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns. Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention.

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.

More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Holy mother of Zod I missed this one.

You do realize you are bringing literally nothing to the table, right?

Actually I am in a form similar to how Jean-Paul Marat did as the guy on this page says. His efforts may have also led to the creation of an egregore(s) which was carried on during the June Rebellion of 1834 and the Paris Commune in 1871. Then eventually used for unionism, etc. The French Revolution occurred partly because of him, it just depends to what degree of publicity or level you carry it out.

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos>organize a hunger strike>organize

Take the real American routeBuy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each. Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns. Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention.

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.

More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Holy mother of Zod I missed this one.

You do realize you are bringing literally nothing to the table, right?

Actually I am in a form similar to how Jean-Paul Marat did as the guy on this page says. His efforts may have also led to the creation of an egregore(s) which was carried on during the June Rebellion of 1834 and the Paris Commune in 1871. Then eventually used for unionism, etc. The French Revolution occurred partly because of him, it just depends to what degree of publicity or level you carry it out.

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos>organize a hunger strike>organize

Take the real American routeBuy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each. Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns. Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention.

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.

More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Holy mother of Zod I missed this one.

You do realize you are bringing literally nothing to the table, right?

Actually I am in a form similar to how Jean-Paul Marat did as the guy on this page says. His efforts may have also led to the creation of an egregore(s) which was carried on during the June Rebellion of 1834 and the Paris Commune in 1871. Then eventually used for unionism, etc. The French Revolution occurred partly because of him, it just depends to what degree of publicity or level you carry it out.

No you're not.

Well then howcome this guy did nothing but write, write, write and managed to contribute to the French Revolution plus influence the events within?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Paul_Marat

Well what kind of fool lets literally anybody into their bathroom anyway? Especially when thats the most defenseless time and you for the sake of privacy? This is why its important to especially keep a gun if your involved in change, even moreso when being confronted by people of it. If they pull a knife, jump back and quickly draw your pistol. An armed person who knows how to fight in order to protect themselves heavily involved in a movement/time of change would be as difficult to kill as a military general. Or just wear a stab/projectile proof body armor underneath. Anybody who wants to assassinate/kill you would think twice if everybody knew you were a person often heavily armed who knows how to fight in order to protect themselves(Be somebody who is known to be extremely difficult to take down physically).

Also if your an idea person what happens if nobody but those within the circle know that its you doing it?

Ok, so wear armor in the bathtub and carry a gun. Got it.

Also totally tangential to the point.

Pro tip: living in that state of personal insecurity causes people to seek a more orderly way of living. Aneristic Escalation.

And if you're an "idea guy" and no one outside your circle knows about it, you're circlejerking.

You don't want Maximum Eris. There is a reason Discordians do not worship. It is much too dangerous.

What stuff does Maximum Eris do, especially to worshippers and any hosts used for her Chaos(Radical Changes)?

Serious question, kid. Have you read the Principia Discordia?

Yes, I've read some of it. But I've never come across any parts that mention a "Maximum Eris"?

http://principiadiscordia.com/book/19.php

Wouldn't Maximum Eris be good if you want to destabilize things though? Especially when there is too less disorder? I theorize that the amount we often think as "too much disorder" will balance out perfectly with the amount of its opposite we have here.

Well what kind of fool lets literally anybody into their bathroom anyway? Especially when thats the most defenseless time and you for the sake of privacy? This is why its important to especially keep a gun if your involved in change, even moreso when being confronted by people of it. If they pull a knife, jump back and quickly draw your pistol. An armed person who knows how to fight in order to protect themselves heavily involved in a movement/time of change would be as difficult to kill as a military general. Or just wear a stab/projectile proof body armor underneath. Anybody who wants to assassinate/kill you would think twice if everybody knew you were a person often heavily armed who knows how to fight in order to protect themselves(Be somebody who is known to be extremely difficult to take down physically).

Also if your an idea person what happens if nobody but those within the circle know that its you doing it?

Ok, so wear armor in the bathtub and carry a gun. Got it.

Also totally tangential to the point.

Pro tip: living in that state of personal insecurity causes people to seek a more orderly way of living. Aneristic Escalation.

And if you're an "idea guy" and no one outside your circle knows about it, you're circlejerking.

Nope not armor in a bathtub but NEVER let random strangers into your personal space. An instinct I have had my entire life. Possibly wear body armor and carry a gun during high profile activities or when talking to a stranger.

Also I meant what happens if you publicly credit somebody else as the "idea" guy who does everything for you?

Title: Re: Australia: The World H.Q of Order?
Post by: The Hoopla on September 22, 2015, 04:14:22 pm

Agreed! I've learned SO MUCH about how to fight now thanks to Chaos Advocate that I don't even need my easily acquired AND satisfyingly large AMERICAN GUNS anymore. I'm going to be an idea guy now! Eris Maximum better get ready for this shit!! I'm going to conquer Australia with muh words and motherfuckin' fists bro!

I said nothing about wearing body armor and carrying a firearm in a bathtub. Only that I would not let any random strangers into my private space and am fearful of allowing it. Always having this natural instinct.

But during very high profile activities or alone meetings with a suspicious stranger, possibly have them.

Well then howcome this guy did nothing but write, write, write and managed to contribute to the French Revolution plus influence the events within?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Paul_Marat

If you think what he did was analogous to what you're doing right now, you don't understand what he did.

Its the world wide web, everybody can see what you write. Including denouncing and etc. Some of it has been used/put into the articles of several micro-parties that I work with's newspapers. I might start my own but idk.

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He does not know that chaos theory is math.He does not know the difference between strategy, tactics, and IMT.He does not know about thermal imaging being cheap and available.

He is perfect.

And you do not know about what EMP does to thermal imaging and ways that can interfere with it(http://modernsurvivalblog.com/security/how-to-block-ir-infrared-thermal-imaging/). During an armed revolutionary conflict the armed parties involved send certain people to do scouting and use guerrilla warfare occasionally.

Pro-tip dumbass. The militaries of the western nations have spend the better part of a decade doing military operations against guerrilla warfare etc etc etc.

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He does not know that chaos theory is math.He does not know the difference between strategy, tactics, and IMT.He does not know about thermal imaging being cheap and available.

He is perfect.

And you do not know about what EMP does to thermal imaging and ways that can interfere with it(http://modernsurvivalblog.com/security/how-to-block-ir-infrared-thermal-imaging/). During an armed revolutionary conflict the armed parties involved send certain people to do scouting and use guerrilla warfare occasionally.

Pro-tip dumbass. The militaries of the western nations have spend the better part of a decade doing military operations against guerrilla warfare etc etc etc.

What about in an economic collapse in which the entire nation including military budget has gone broke, with some people in the military experiencing starvation? Especially if they lose access to sweatshops in the third world?

Or: if there is another country sending soldiers to aid the rebel forces, some of the people in the military join them within the revolution(If its an armed one)?

You don't want Maximum Eris. There is a reason Discordians do not worship. It is much too dangerous.

What stuff does Maximum Eris do, especially to worshippers and any hosts used for her Chaos(Radical Changes)?

Serious question, kid. Have you read the Principia Discordia?

Yes, I've read some of it. But I've never come across any parts that mention a "Maximum Eris"?

http://principiadiscordia.com/book/19.php

Wouldn't Maximum Eris be good if you want to destabilize things though? Especially when there is too less disorder? I theorize that the amount we often think as "too much disorder" will balance out perfectly with the amount of its opposite we have here.

Actually, no.

Do you want the people in your life to die? Because that's what Maximum Eris means. Your powers of self defense are like a tinfoil shield against a Howitzer. You do not play chess with goddesses.

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He does not know that chaos theory is math.He does not know the difference between strategy, tactics, and IMT.He does not know about thermal imaging being cheap and available.

He is perfect.

And you do not know about what EMP does to thermal imaging and ways that can interfere with it(http://modernsurvivalblog.com/security/how-to-block-ir-infrared-thermal-imaging/). During an armed revolutionary conflict the armed parties involved send certain people to do scouting and use guerrilla warfare occasionally.

Pro-tip dumbass. The militaries of the western nations have spend the better part of a decade doing military operations against guerrilla warfare etc etc etc.

What about in an economic collapse in which the entire nation including military budget has gone broke?

A oh look at this dumbass, totally unaware oh how much loyalty agents of a state will hold to their state, or at least their small microcosm of it.

Also, you're ignorant and weak. You are not unique, or even slightly exceptional. People like you are a dime a dozen. The Internet is crawling with people who think the way you do.

You wield no power. None.

Actually I managed to use what I have learned from human emotional reaction to cause an entire community of people(made up of hundreds-thousands) on another site to be completely toxic to a certain far-right ideology and some even going personal on people who believe in it. Excessively harassing and weeding out those that are even suspected of following it. Not mentioning for privacy reasons. I need to keep homing this skill until it can be used in bigger areas.

I am probably bad at organizing and do not have the energy for it, it is too draining for me. I become exhausted or overwhelmed + no private time. So have to form a circle of people to divide all responsibilities out to. If I were to do it, it would have to be behind the scenes.

I will however assure that I will play a more direct role if a revolution does break out(conditions that make it possible might be coming soon). That being physical(volunteer army) or strategic like scouting out an area. Pretty sneaky myself irl. Its also hard for people to notice when you stay very still and especially have something that blends you in with your background.

Fucking hell I missed this gem in all that multiquote.

Go home. The Revolution is not for you.

He does not know that chaos theory is math.He does not know the difference between strategy, tactics, and IMT.He does not know about thermal imaging being cheap and available.

He is perfect.

And you do not know about what EMP does to thermal imaging and ways that can interfere with it(http://modernsurvivalblog.com/security/how-to-block-ir-infrared-thermal-imaging/). During an armed revolutionary conflict the armed parties involved send certain people to do scouting and use guerrilla warfare occasionally.

Pro-tip dumbass. The militaries of the western nations have spend the better part of a decade doing military operations against guerrilla warfare etc etc etc.

What about in an economic collapse in which the entire nation including military budget has gone broke?

A oh look at this dumbass, totally unaware oh how much loyalty agents of a state will hold to their state, or at least their small microcosm of it.

Did you ever read about the Russian Revolution civil war, the Egypt and Thailand military coups? Also what happens if its during an economic collapse in which things are in nearly total disorder?

How the Roman Empire fell?

Btw you should know China is becoming more aggressive towards the first-world nations and have been funding + training any rebels secretly in places like India or the Philippines. Maoists(especially in young adults or teens who will be future politicians of it) are also making a return. If any revolution turns into an armed conflict as a result of authorities attempting to suppress a peaceful one they could potentially send their army to fight with them. Russia too. It would be similar to how the German empire in WWI aided the bolsheviks.

Also, you're ignorant and weak. You are not unique, or even slightly exceptional. People like you are a dime a dozen. The Internet is crawling with people who think the way you do.

You wield no power. None.

Maybe in certain areas* I am not omnipotent you know and a master in every single tiny area? Those I all know irl and elsewhere say quite the opposite, even being amazed/impressed at me only with some criticizing me for "refusing to use potential outside areas of interest". I have widespread interest and know more about the areas I have selectively chosen to be interested in, so there is bound to be some gaps.

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos>organize a hunger strike>organize

Take the real American routeBuy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each. Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns. Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention.

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.

More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Oh, I see. You're more of an "idea guy."

I mentioned Marat some posts back. He was an idea guy, and look where that got him. Got his throat slit in the bathtub, is where.

Well what kind of fool lets literally anybody into their bathroom anyway? Especially when thats the most defenseless time and you for the sake of privacy? This is why its important to especially keep a gun if your involved in change, even moreso when being confronted by people of it. If they pull a knife, jump back and quickly draw your pistol. An armed person who knows how to fight in order to protect themselves heavily involved in a movement/time of change would be as difficult to kill as a military general. Or just wear a stab/projectile proof body armor underneath. Anybody who wants to assassinate/kill you would think twice if everybody knew you were a person often heavily armed who knows how to fight in order to protect themselves(Be somebody who is known to be extremely difficult to take down physically).

Also if your an idea person what happens if nobody but those within the circle know that its you doing it?

He had a skin condition. He had to take a lot of baths. But yeah he totally should of had an ak on him at all times. Aren't you the one who made a french revolution thread? Isn't he atleast a foot note when they teach about it in highschool?

Also, you're ignorant and weak. You are not unique, or even slightly exceptional. People like you are a dime a dozen. The Internet is crawling with people who think the way you do.

You wield no power. None.

Maybe in certain areas* I am not omnipotent you know and a master in every single tiny area? Those I all know irl and elsewhere say quite the opposite, even being amazed/impressed at me only with some criticizing me for "refusing to use potential outside areas of interest".

Also, you're ignorant and weak. You are not unique, or even slightly exceptional. People like you are a dime a dozen. The Internet is crawling with people who think the way you do.

You wield no power. None.

Maybe in certain areas* I am not omnipotent you know and a master in every single tiny area? Those I all know irl and elsewhere say quite the opposite, even being amazed/impressed at me only with some criticizing me for "refusing to use potential outside areas of interest".

I'm sure they do, mate. I'm sure they do.

Go talk to your average mainstream person, thats who they are though I do not interact with them much cause I don't like small talk. I have widespread interest and know more about the areas I have selectively chosen to be self-interested in, so there is bound to be some gaps. Gaps from only jumping on areas of interest does not equal ignorance. Howcome when I present some of the areas I have most interest in that I've done more research on they are impressed?

Are we still talking about a hunger strike, or have you wandered off into revolutionland again?

BOTH. Just as chaos(From what I've learned so far, I'm new to this) goes in both/many directions as its said? Hunger strike would open possibilities for people to make revolutions or protests easier.

>wants chaos>organize a hunger strike>organize

Take the real American routeBuy as many mosin nagants as you can. Theyre like 150$ each. Set up a gun safety and training course in an area that is scared of guns. Everyone who passes the course gets a free moist nugget.

Don't even advertise anywhere with multiple mosins firing is sure to attract attention.

Makes more sense then a fucking hunger strike.

More like spread/propose the idea and those who can do it will organize*

Oh, I see. You're more of an "idea guy."

I mentioned Marat some posts back. He was an idea guy, and look where that got him. Got his throat slit in the bathtub, is where.

Well what kind of fool lets literally anybody into their bathroom anyway? Especially when thats the most defenseless time and you for the sake of privacy? This is why its important to especially keep a gun if your involved in change, even moreso when being confronted by people of it. If they pull a knife, jump back and quickly draw your pistol. An armed person who knows how to fight in order to protect themselves heavily involved in a movement/time of change would be as difficult to kill as a military general. Or just wear a stab/projectile proof body armor underneath. Anybody who wants to assassinate/kill you would think twice if everybody knew you were a person often heavily armed who knows how to fight in order to protect themselves(Be somebody who is known to be extremely difficult to take down physically).

Also if your an idea person what happens if nobody but those within the circle know that its you doing it?

He had a skin condition. He had to take a lot of baths. But yeah he totally should of had an ak on him at all times. Aren't you the one who made a french revolution thread? Isn't he atleast a foot note when they teach about it in highschool?

Yeah but he could have arranged a schedule/time to talk when he wasn't talking a bath and there were plenty of times when he didn't.

Assumption* I once slid into a pool a metre(s) deep without a second thought just for thrills, even though I couldn't swim. Managed to still pull myself to the edge, I got persistent/nearly unbreakable endurance. Before all of a sudden deciding to go again with same effect and survived. I NEVER go down in anything without a struggle/fight.

You don't want Maximum Eris. There is a reason Discordians do not worship. It is much too dangerous.

What stuff does Maximum Eris do, especially to worshippers and any hosts used for her Chaos(Radical Changes)?

Serious question, kid. Have you read the Principia Discordia?

Yes, I've read some of it. But I've never come across any parts that mention a "Maximum Eris"?

http://principiadiscordia.com/book/19.php

Wouldn't Maximum Eris be good if you want to destabilize things though? Especially when there is too less disorder? I theorize that the amount we often think as "too much disorder" will balance out perfectly with the amount of its opposite we have here.

Actually, no.

Do you want the people in your life to die? Because that's what Maximum Eris means. Your powers of self defense are like a tinfoil shield against a Howitzer. You do not play chess with goddesses.

The people in my life are few and very resourceful, all know how to survive if a revolution broke out. Also it does not have to be an armed one but it can end up as one possibly. A revolution(Even the ones brought by Maximum Eris) do not always kill many people besides the ones who are involved in it if armed. The fall of the Roman Empire involved Maximum Eris and it wasn't all that bad?

Well whatever happens bring it on Maximum Eris I say, bring forth true democracy/rule by the general populace. Just topple neoliberalism, oligarchy, and corporate rule + the empire asap please. Let the masses hate and trample on the corporate elites + their puppets.

Assumption* I once slid into a pool a metre(s) deep without a second thought just for thrills, even though I couldn't swim. Managed to still pull myself to the edge, I got persistent/nearly unbreakable endurance. Before all of a sudden deciding to go again with same effect and survived. I NEVER go down in anything without a struggle/fight.

HOLY SHIT, you got into three feet of water? A THREE FOOT DEEP POOL OF WATER???

I said nothing about wearing body armor and carrying a firearm in a bathtub. Only that I would not let any random strangers into my private space and am fearful of allowing it. Always having this natural instinct.

But during very high profile activities or alone meetings with a suspicious stranger, possibly have them.

:lulz: :lulz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvhwMeHp1Yg

Besides, wouldn't your natural instincts and thought-forms warn you about having alone meetings with suspicious strangers? It seems counter to all these revolutionizing tips you've been handing out. If anything, wouldn't you just send your thought form to meet with the suspicious stranger?

What if I'm on the phone with a suspicious stranger? Should I let them know I am currently brandishing a weapon? What if it's a conference call, so then I wouldn't be alone?

Assumption* I once slid into a pool a metre(s) deep without a second thought just for thrills, even though I couldn't swim. Managed to still pull myself to the edge, I got persistent/nearly unbreakable endurance. Before all of a sudden deciding to go again with same effect and survived. I NEVER go down in anything without a struggle/fight.

HOLY SHIT, you got into three feet of water? A THREE FOOT DEEP POOL OF WATER???

You... you... you... THRILLSEEKER, you!

:lol:

Pfft that's nothing. A few weeks ago I was feeling dangerous so I stood in a 3-foot pool of water, except that sometimes there were WAVES and I got splashed all the way up to my shoulders!! Totally ready for war.

Given most people in the western world talking about revolution are about on a level with the OP, both intellectually and morally...well yeah. I can shoot myself in the foot just fine, I don't need others to do it for me.

You know, for all the semi punk anti the machine TM discordianism, this group at least, isn't very revolutionary.

Revolution isn't my bag; too many people dying. I'm more of a cultural shift kinda girl.

I mean, we didn't get same-sex marriage, socialized medicine, assisted suicide, municipal composting, free community college, and legal marijuana via revolution. I'd personally like to work it out so that we keep all the good things about our governmental infrastructure and eliminate the bad things as much as possible, rather than scrap the whole thing and start over, which often as not just results in a different shitty overlord the same as the last one.