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Little quick to accuse him of shill bidding on his own items there. 30 day records show that the buyer bid 1 time on another of his items and it looks like he incrementally increased his bid on this item to reach his own max buy price. I've bid 5-10 times on one item doing the same thing, trying to get it as cheap as possible before reaching my max bid. It may still be a shill bid situation, but I might give the benefit of the doubt on this one. If he had bid on more of the sellers items, it might make me think differently.

Little quick to accuse him of shill bidding on his own items there. 30 day records show that the buyer bid 1 time on another of his items and it looks like he incrementally increased his bid on this item to reach his own max buy price. I've bid 5-10 times on one item doing the same thing, trying to get it as cheap as possible before reaching my max bid. It may still be a shill bid situation, but I might give the benefit of the doubt on this one. If he had bid on more of the sellers items, it might make me think differently.

Oh no I'm not accusing him *yet* I was just letting everyone know because 1. The price seemed high. 2. It looked suspicous and it was a board member.

you arent accusing them, but the title to your post is that one of the members here is a shill bidder. He bid on 2 items from the seller. If you looked at my ebay account and bidding history, it might appear that i am a shill bidder because i bid on a lot of cards that the owner of my lcs lists because i dont have to pay for shipping.

Add to it the fact that the current max bid is $22 more than the potential shill bidder's high bid. Not sure about the shill bidders you've seen in the past, but I would think they would shill it up when the item was getting close to finishing to drive the price up to higher than it should be. Not bidding when there is a group of bidders that are easily willing to surpass that early bid.

why not ask the board member through a PM FIRST before you took it upon your self to start a thread about it?

Why would I pm him and ask him if he was a shill bidder? Because even if he is he is going to tell me no. And I was waiting for his response so im not accusing him quite yet.( you know what I mean.) If he backs him self up I would assume he is or isnt depending on the type of his response.

Why would I pm him and ask him if he was a shill bidder? Because even if he is he is going to tell me no. And I was waiting for his response so im not accusing him quite yet.( you know what I mean.) If he backs him self up I would assume he is or isnt depending on the type of his response.

this is what you do through PM's first before ACCUSING him......... and in your thread title, you accused him............

Why would I pm him and ask him if he was a shill bidder? Because even if he is he is going to tell me no. And I was waiting for his response so im not accusing him quite yet.( you know what I mean.) If he backs him self up I would assume he is or isnt depending on the type of his response.

The more you "explain yourself" the worse you look. Again:

HOW IS THIS NOT ACCUSING HIM OF SHILL BIDDING?????

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Why would I pm him and ask him if he was a shill bidder? Because even if he is he is going to tell me no. And I was waiting for his response so im not accusing him quite yet.( you know what I mean.) If he backs him self up I would assume he is or isnt depending on the type of his response.

So if he doesnt defend himself to a false accusation to your liking, that makes him a shill bidder? wow, im glad the legal system doesnt work like that.

Ok guys chill out. I was trying to help you guys of what might be an auction you wanted to avoid. Jeez findizzle your probably a 30 something waiting to make fun of a 15 year old kid. You must feel pretty cool man. Pretty cool....

Yes its over with. But for me just getting on and reading this...your not questioning anything, with the title and your text, your flat out blaming someone for something that may or may not be true. In the real world this would be slander and you'd better have an attorney.

you should give people respect because they are upstanding members and arent going around accusing people of unethical behavior with little evidence. And fish is correct, you could be sued for slander based off of what you said.

you should give people respect because they are upstanding members and arent going around accusing people of unethical behavior with little evidence. And fish is correct, you could be sued for slander based off of what you said.

Trust me I cannont be sued. And If it doesnt involve you dont post. I swear a new person calls someone out. And all you "Vets" Hop on his dick enough is enough seriously. The anything people talk about is the new annoying kids. Seriously guys were you once 12-14? Their new to the hobby and as you guys being " Vets" should help them out with pointers and such not make or post Obnoxious pictures saying schools out ect ect. Really guys if you think about it your what 30-40 years old and are picking on middle school and highschool kids. Then you guys call them Immature? Ok I get it the Buy my Dontrelle Willis Base card for 100$ gets annoying but just let it slide by... No need to put stupid things on their threads. Pm them and teach them. Just for you "vets" have a little respect for the new people. I'm here to have a good time as is everyone else.