“I expressed our concern about the situation,” Deshchytsia told CNN’s Fred Pleitgen, sitting in for Christiane Amanpour. “I also warned him not to use any military force to protect Russians in eastern Ukraine, since we have enough power to protect Russian-speaking [people].”

“We both agreed that we have to deploy all necessary means to deescalate [the] situation.”

Ukraine envoy details talks with Russia

Pro-Russian protesters have seized state buildings in several eastern Ukrainian cities, prompting accusations from Kiev that Moscow is trying to "dismember" the country and carry out a replay of Crimea.

Pleitgen pushed Deshchytsia on what he thought Russia’s game plan was.

“Don’t you think that this is something that the Russians are stage-managing here,” he asked, “and doesn’t it look awfully a lot like the blueprint that they used in Crimea?”

“It looks very much the same scenario,” Deshchytsia said.

According to Deshchytsia, Lavrov told him that Russia was partially withdrawing from the border.

But Deshchytsia said that according to Ukraine’s intelligence, Russia is replacing those troops with “more dynamic and more modern [military deployments near the] eastern borders of Ukraine.”

“The best way is to keep dialogue,” Deshchytsia said, saying that the two sides “need to talk.”

But “if Russians will not hear our arguments, then the next steps of sanctions and next steps of other means of pressure on Russia needs to be deployed.”

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Ukrain puts Putin into difficult position. If Right Sector and BlackWater mercinaries will attack Russian-speaking population in West Ukrain Putin will have no choice but to use force. Maybe just enter and put these extremists out, maybe go further like in Crimia.

Alexey is obviously promoting obvious lies from the putinist "talking points" given out daily to Russian bloggers and rubber-stamp "journalists." Unfortunately, this messageboard does not allow for URLs as scans of these have popped up on the web; they are real and they are shameless in the lies they push.

Any reasonable human being knows that Alexey is talking nonsense and completely mischaracterizing the security situation in Ukraine and inventing enemies from thin air as a pretext to invasion.

The greatest irony, of course, is that his lies will ultimately lead to Ukraine joining NATO. Exactly the phantom that he is basically railing against will come true as a result of his paranoid lies.

April 8, 2014 at 2:48 am |

aleh

Steve is in no doubt works for official US propaganda machine . He is too far from Ukraine and obviously doesn't know the
truth . He just repeats ideas prompted by many official news channels . By criticising Alexey he is not only shows his complete disregard for the truth but adds more points to the view that his primarily task is to suppress any opinion that differs from official .

April 8, 2014 at 3:24 am |

lutaa

Putins Russians you should occupy Ukrain and send Ukrain people to Siberia if it possible then finish them there like what you have done in the past for other Russian ethnics 40M is not that big number any more now because you have a nuke

April 8, 2014 at 4:05 am |

Ruslan

Alexey is very right, all the western media is feeding all of you nonsense, Pro-Russian protesters who are they made out of ? Yes Russians, but there are huge numbers of Ukrainians who are tired of being rulled by Criminals who have unlawfully got into the power in the first place. Now Ukrainian government are playing world political games, acting as if they are victims of the the whole situation, because the people are no longer want to be silenced like they always were. People in all the cities are coming out for a peaceful protest asking for a referendum and diplomatic voting for the people. Ukraine are now putting forces into place in order to suppress the people saying that they are terrorists and using force against them, there are special fascist groups in Ukraine who are always trying to sabotage peaceful meeting in order to provoke violence and make it seem like Russia are the one who are behind it , but its Ukraine the criminal government who are doing it all. Majority of Ukrainian people are standing up for Russia and asking to make it their main language. People just use more than one source of information to base your opinion on because alot of what we are fed is not true and bias. And in regards to this Minister of Foreign Affairs loool with his knowledge of English he probably wouldn't even be able to spell everything he said properly, let alone have serious discussions with the world.

April 8, 2014 at 5:44 am |

desertvoice

Putin is realizing the Russian policy over vodka. He is thus endangering the entire world. Putin should be removed from power if there are anymore threatening episodes!

April 8, 2014 at 7:47 am |

Roger

The real threat is the prorussian terrorists and the russian killers Putin have send over to Ukraina to start a civil war. Ofcourse the only intensions Russia have is to invade and do another landgrab. I hope Ukraina fight back this time. Othervise Russia will probably occupy the whole country.

April 8, 2014 at 8:42 am |

Vasya

Russian lies become more and more pathetic. Greystone/Blackwater in fact works in Russia – look it up on their web site. They also publicly called Russia liars for suggestions that GS was in Ukraine.
As to the armed terrorist mob occupying the Gov buildings, they need to be dealt with swiftly and forcefully. As they will be

April 8, 2014 at 10:40 am |

K24

If Russia invades they should be nuked! Putin is a bully and needs to be PUT-in his place, he is a corrupt relic of the USSR.
As for the single braincelled Russian citizenry, that support him, they should get what the ask for, an isolated, third world Russia, let em live in the poverty and under the dictatorship they ASK for.

April 8, 2014 at 11:20 am |

Igor

This is sheer pro-Putin propaganda. That guy, psychologically an adolescent full of complexes, is trying to prove everybody how macho he is, how strong and entrepreneural. For some of his likes, there was the Norymberg tribunal. For him, I guess, it will be the Hague.

April 8, 2014 at 3:18 pm |

Bx

If Russia suspects there are WMDs in Ukraine, or they're not really sure of the intelligence that says WMDs may or may not be there, are they justified in invading? Were have I heard that rule before.... hmmm..?!

Actailly ukriane gave up its wmd on the promise that russia and the us would protect it boarders. Do some research before you post something so stoopid.What a miserable failure you are.

April 8, 2014 at 7:32 pm |

bert

these guys are making a movie here. if they had a real intention to start a war, they would have already. the real war here is a tug-of-war between the EU, U.S.A. AND RUSSIA, with Nato in the middle. Nato has to re engineer its leadership, in order to keep everyone true and honest, including Russia, who is gambling on teasing NATO using Crimea and Ukraine as spearheads. There´s no doubt that Russia, if wanted, could wipe out Ukraine in battle, but that's not the goal here. The goal is getting diplomacy on the table with the correct focus on the main consideration affecting all parties involved and work out the problems each block has as far as politics, commerce, military balance of power in the region and addressing unsolved aspects that remained not credited to Russia and /or vice-versa to NATO (if any) after WWII.

Poor Russian govt. is forced by hindu Indian govt. to sign a secret deal by which hindu india will get Russian military hardware at a cheaper rate but enough to keep the Russian economy floating. So Russians are slaves of hindu Indians. In this way or in some other clever way, we shall enslave the Americans and Europeans also.....Losers

Siva`s marriage is still a few days away, but you have already consumed a lot of Vhang.

April 8, 2014 at 1:41 pm |

Hussain

Dont listen to your neighbors uncle he is a liar.

April 8, 2014 at 4:46 pm |

Jv

Until then you will continue to be our slaves. Now go take a shower,because you smell very bad.

April 8, 2014 at 7:35 pm |

Gene

It doesn;t seem either CNN or BBC channels show the real situation.. Thousands Ukranians who want the referendum for Ukraine Federalization they show us as "hundreds of protesters". Where are the interviews with them? Where are translations? Russian TV shows everything – both sides of conflict – real independent TV in compare with your yellow pages.

Since the demonstrators seem to love Russia so much, it would be poetic justice for the Kiev authorities to bus them to the border, take their Ukrainian passports, and have them walk over over the border into the nation they seem to love so much: Russia.

Did the tatars "vote" to be deported and freeze and die during the stalin regime ? And what of the Holodormor upon the people of ukraine by russia ?

This Ukrainean foreign minister is incompitent.
No foreign diplomat can use the term "warning" to Russia and Think he has common sense.
It was the Obama's bostfull warning to Putin that facilitated the Crimea annexation otherwise Putin had no intention to absorb Crimea

The Cremea referendum is not annexion, military support was necessery to neutralize ukranian soldiers, more than 10 000 of which were deployed in Cremea. The absolutely peaceful development of situation in Cremea and more than 90% of votes for unification with Russia is the clear answer to the question is Cremea Ukranian or Russian. Having this there is no ways back to Ukraine for Cremea

Yes, you right, , Darian. Russian is powerful and flexible language, unfortunately it won't help you. You have never been in Ukraine but I was born there. Unlike you I visited many places of ex-USSR and many other countries. When you repeat my way you will understand a little about global politics.

April 8, 2014 at 5:23 am |

battlepod

What world are you living in? If Russia seized Crimea because Obama warned them not to then they have simply proven they are the most immature nation in the world. It's time we all take a step back and grow up, it's time to understand that power and aggression are tools of the past, weapons of men who let their emotions dictate what they do and accomplish rather than logic and reason. The west makes plenty of poor choices, but that is no excuse to barge into another nation, welcomed or not, and impose your rule. Time and time again we make the same mistakes and we never learn. Truly man is the most foolish creature on the face of this planet. There is a whole universe out there waiting for us and yet we cannot stop beating one another into the ground. If Putin really wanted to show the world he was a strong leader there were plenty of other options out there. This is simply posturing for future aggression on both sides. Someone should step up and be the bigger man, it's sad that they would all rather sink to the level of children fighting over toys, the big difference is they are fighting over innocent peoples lives.

Russia did not "seize" or "annex" Crimea. For example of ACTUAL "seize"/"annexation" look at Hussein's failed attempt to annex Kuwait.

People waited to reunited with their homeland very long, and finally their will was heard (yes, the referendum was not rigged in any significant degree: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=10541 - field reports from over 2000 journalists and observers from 23 countries show no significant abuses) .

April 7, 2014 at 8:07 pm |

Olga White

The people of eastern Ukraine fights fascist junta that seized power in Kiev. As you do not understand? If the EU and the United States did not support the Nazis in Kiev, in the Ukraine for a long time there was peace, and the Crimea would have stayed to Ukrainian territory.

April 8, 2014 at 2:58 am |

Olga White

At 2014 Nazis in Kiev called Bandera hero. 1943-1945 Bandera killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, one hundred fifty thousand Poles and hundreds of thousands of Soviet soldiers. His gang killed tens of thousands of children.Thereafter as Kiev junta declared him a hero, people of Crimea could no longer stay on Ukraine. They expressed their will in a referendum 16 March. And it's legitimate right.
PS Historical Background. Ukrainian Khrushchev unlawfully annexed Krym to Ukraine in 1954.

April 8, 2014 at 3:41 am |

Olga White

The worst thing is – is that the EU and the U.S. is now support the Nazis in Ukraine. Lessons of the Second World War did not teach them anything. the people of Europe have to say "no" fascism in Ukraine and help in the fight against fascism Eastern Ukraine.Speak in their respective countries against the fascist junta Kiev. Together we can confront him. Now for some reason, only Russia has a tocsin about fascism in Ukraine, and the EU and the USA pretend that Ukraine does not have it.

April 8, 2014 at 5:56 am |

shedman

You are definately right, people should know that gone are the days when the weak countries are overrun by the mighty. Putin,put are stop to this.thanks

April 8, 2014 at 7:39 am |

Lithuanian

Olga, it's like de ja vu from the 60th
A guess Putin has brainwashed another generation with his propaganda in Russia
What is it called know – new free Komsomol or plain old Komunist.
I am surprised how Russians do not change over time. It must be in their genetics now.
I hope the history does not repeat however with the new USSR in the 21st century

April 8, 2014 at 2:59 pm |

Ruslan

Lithuania, The whole of your country was built by the Russian USSR why are you complaining?

April 8, 2014 at 5:05 pm |

Darian

Is Olotato an African name? You sound like you just came out of the bush, as ignorant as a Pygmy.

Darian. Shame on you. Do you even know where Africa is? You still think Africa is a Jungle. Do your research and wise up.

April 8, 2014 at 2:40 am |

sam

Darian, what has African name got to do with this? in any case, let's see the WDM from Iraq and I will belief everything the EU/US coalation is saying about Russia.

April 8, 2014 at 6:28 am |

badblack ldp

How does Africa come into this?

April 8, 2014 at 7:04 am |

Nabapin

Darian, better to come out of the bush than to come out of your own ass, because that's what you sound like.

April 10, 2014 at 6:38 am |

Alexey

"Russia do not invade". This is Maidan in the opposite. In Kiev they hold protest, In Kharkov and Donetsk they also hold protests against Kiev. Is Russia involved? That's a mute queston. People of Ukrain are involed.

Agreed, Ucranian people don't want to be under facist rule. These facist currently in power now they want to bring to justice for terrorists those ucranian people that are against them, but they did the same thing against the previous freakin president

Alexey, I can't decide whether you're completely brainwashed or work for Putin's propaganda ministry. To say that western media are the tools of the governments is really the pot calling the kettle black. Western media may be far from perfect but it is not controlled. I doubt very much if this comment column would ever be printed in Russia.

News in Russia is inverted in comparition with USA news. Russian(USA) news say:
– Obama(Putin) wants to run the world!
– Russia(USA) is the world agressor!
– Foreign military troups of Russians ("Black water") are in Ukraine!
– New(old) government of ukraine are corrupted and not legitimate!
– Russian(USA) help protesters!
– Pro-russians (pro-EU) demonstrations and building occupation are out of law.
But there is some things in wich news are similar:
– new government are neo-nazi and nazi.
– new government drive Ukraine to crisis and default.
– new government don't want to federalize Ukraine
– new government has support of USA and Germany.

About these referendums mentioned above. How can you not understand that the results are fake similiar to North Korea. Russians went abroad to Crimea and voted even they do not live there. Why do you think russians (green peaple with weapons from local pet shop) didn`t allowed people from Europe to come and check the referendum?

Nothing to do with North Korea; read actual field reports: http://www.bradblog.com/?p=10541 - no significant abuses were found by over 2000 journalists and international observers from 23 countries. International media had hard time finding people would would vote against reuniting with Russia: https://twitter.com/nickschifrin/statuses/445211707729014784, https://twitter.com/lindseyhilsum/statuses/445173047998562304

We have many friends and relatives in Crimea. Most of them are ethnical Ukrainians or they belong to mixed families. ALL of them support the unification with Russia. This is not only because Russia is very attractive to them, but also because of the fact that Ukraine is definitely a failed country. People are happy to escape - better with their own houses. 🙂

If the west is so unconvinced by the overwhelming vote by Crimeans to "seccede" (Spe) why not call for another referendum instead of calling it a sham. My guess is the result shall be more shocking to the west. These people do not want to be part of Ukraine.

Give me a break! This is like the 1955 show The Mouse That Roared when the Duchy of Grand Fenwick declared war on the United States! Ukraine you would have little to no chance – warnings are about as worthless when Britain and France warned Hitler not to invade Poland – that sure stopped him good. If Russia wants Ukraine they will do it without a shot being fired – it will be similar to what the CIA does to other countries in fomenting revolution and placing puppets in power after the dirty deed is done. Be careful what thou speaks in public!

USA already has put its puppets - coup d'etat was co-managed and co-financed by Department of State neocon maniacs. Russia has lost the coup thing (you can not compete with USA who has made over half hundred coup d'etats).

And what happened with russians in baltic states? The ones who wanted freely could get and still can get citizenship. The ones who are born there can get citizenship and all the benefits automaticly.

April 8, 2014 at 2:17 am |

Lithuanian

Where do you live Svetlana? If you are not happy there – go home, get a job in Moscow and get over with that pro-Russian chandra of yours
In Baltics we did not make the mistake that Ukraine did
So we are NATO and Ukraine is facing civil war because of Russians there
Russians go home!

April 8, 2014 at 2:50 pm |

Lithuanian

There is no dual citizenship in Lithuania.
And that just does not allow the Ukrainian scenario there

Will it be you personally who will be drawing a red line around Russia? Well, take my advice then – get about a 1000 pairs of boots, since our border is way too long and it's a long walk. As to a no-fly zone... In your dreams, dude.
The US and its allies cannot do anything abouth North Korea, and it's about 20 times smaller than the region of Russia I live in. They should try imposing a no-fly zone down there first.

April 8, 2014 at 12:30 am |

Alex Brushman

Russians (Americans) think: world without war is world without America (Russia)
he-he-he, Putin(Obama) zombies

Perhaps the U.N. should have a referendum in Chechnya without Russian guns, military & bombing that reduced the cities into rubble & the killing of many civilians. Putin is a war criminal & should be arrested & hauled into an international jail cell, when he ventures outside his country. Perhaps a warrant for his arrest...........

U.S.-NATO control of Ukraine and the pipelines that supply the EU with much of its gas from Russia is merely a step to weaken Russia. The next objective is the removal of the Russian Naval Fleet from the Black Sea, effectively making it into a NATO lake. The final U.S. goal is to encircle Russia with anti-missile batteries, which could down any Russian missile, thus allowing the possibility of a NATO nuclear first-strike. And for those who still believe U.S. leaders have concern for anyone but themselves, a moment’s reflection on Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland’s recent expletives concerning the EU should dispel any such notion.

And they (the junta) are only that spreading the word war every day on tv, radio, media, etc. prohibited russian media. they are a group of really stupid puppets cheated a country that now in awaikening

well if Ukraine has enough force to deal with those fascist elements, mauling Russian speakers then what this force was doing earlier. Now there seems to be a tide of 'Rossia' has started in the Russian speaking areas which is the outcome of hatred generated by Tymoshenka's and other Ukrainian politicians who openly spoke against Russians and Russia. We must realize one basic fact that Ukrainian army was one time colleagues of Russian army during the Soviet days and they share a very close cultural link since centuries. West must understand to take a more cautious policy towards this region and try not flare hatred rather discourage this. For the Ukrainian politicians it is must that they should approach the Russian speakers themselves with an open arm otherwise another part of Ukraine will be in trouble. We can feel that Ukrainian authorities seem to have taken too extreme steps in dealing with Russian speakers. Ukraine should solve its problems directly with Russia not via any threat of NATO or EU sanctions which does not work with strong Putin Govt. It is the common people who suffer in Ukraine whether Ukrainian speakers or Russian speakers. We have to realize a basic fact that Soviet Union was an integrated society which had worked on the merging of nationalities so many Ukrainian are settled for over fifty years in the Russian Federation and the CIS countries what about them. I observed similar happening when Georgia crises emerged and poor Georgians living in Russia had to suffer but now the story is different and there is wave of sympathy today for Russia in Georgia. West should understand Soviet Union was dismembered physically but it is morally alive even today. Russia does reserve her right to protect her interest like the USA does in any part of the world – So better talk instead there are other problems in this world alienation will not work and it is not common sense

generally speaking you are right but take into consideration that Ukraine itself is now, and it was during soviet era a divided country in terms of ideology, western ukranians are considered false and the goverment sitting now is a junta western product, so why will we accept them? never!

Svetlana: "Russia is democratic" HAH! You gotta be kidding..... Best laughs ever!
Have you, Svetlana, happened to notice how good care Russia takes of it's own people IN its own country? HAH!
I'd rather stop amassing new land and focus on the current ridiculous 17 000 000 km2 and it's people.
Russia is a developing country, only exception being the insane amount of cash spent for military expenses, bullying and being a thug and a crook.

Well, Olga if you happened to have a look at the comparison table of the military expenses of the US and Russia, you'll see that the American taxpayers are practically living to "feed" the American army. That figure IS insane. And the fact they are present in a great lot of countries in Europe. THAT IS insane. Why would they do that if they were nt planning to bomb anyone? So they are.... who knows which country is next...probably depending on Obama's mood...

There is too much wishful thinking in your statements. Facts are. Ukraine is a failed country from the moment they departed from the Union. Wellfare of people was constantly on decline for that very moment NO MATTER of pro-Russian or pro-West government.
Common people of Ukraine got robbed by everysingle government they had with nothing to show for it.
Until rest of the world stops interfering with Ukraine's internal affairs by supporting the Thiefs that run that country, nothing will improve for common people.
This is why any kind of referendum or opinion poll on national scale will be suicidal for US/EU interests, because none wants to live in that dirt hole Ukranian government officials have been and are creating.

“Don’t you think that this is something that the Russians are stage-managing here,” he asked, “and doesn’t it look awfully a lot like the blueprint that they used in Crimea?”
If you ask me, what is happening in eastern Ukraine doesn't look like what happened in Crimea as Pleitgen is trying to portray, instead it looks like what happened in Keiv, stage-managed by the US and EU. The Russians are just taking it from the west's playbook

Exactly. The "west" set an example with what happened on Maidan in February, so why can't other regions follow this example now? With the only exception , these people in the eastern regions have not been paid by the US 5 bln USD to organize that, and the protesters were not paid 30 EUR per day to protest.
Only the dumbest people still can't understand, that there are at least TWO nations living in Ukraine. And it's stupid to try to push it. The "west" should live Ukraine alone and let it deal with this problem, and NOT PUSH it to choose sides. They will never succeed. They have already contributed enough to this mess. The day they finally get it, the situation will start to calm down.

Russia has every right to annex crimea to the russia.because it was historically part of it. Also it has right to annex central asian countires.because they diidnt want independence at 1991.those r part of russia at past. i dont think as as result of collapse of soviat union,russia should loss its territories. it is hush.i love soviats.and russia.Hope come again to balance world power.
Dilan-Sri Lanka

Russia "borrowed" Crimea from Turkey 250 ears ago during hundreds years of wars with Osman Empire and created everything what currently exist in Crimea: industry, sea ports, curorts, agriculture, education, culture ets , because Russian Empire was much more developed than Osman Empire. The current crimean population which exceeds 2 millions is mostly russian one and is not related with Turkey.

America, you are the sole super power in the world, but when a leader does not take action, some of your wards will bully the weaker ones such as what is happening with Russia & Ukraine. America, the world is waiting on you. Take action

If you remember Ukraine appeared in 1991 after collapse of Ukraine appeared in 1991 after collapse of USSR. The independent ukrainian state never existed before, so that ukrainian boundaries are absolutely arbitrary and artificial. Easter and Southern Ukraine have always been territories with mixed russian and ukrainian population. What is going on in Ukraine is a consequence of the fact that one ( nationalistic) political group seized power with help of western countries. However they do not have support in Eastern and Southern Ukraine. If Kiev's "revolutionary" power continues its current politics it will break the country because of its own mistakes rather than Russian efforts.

America,standup now and act over the Ukrainian issue. not when the Russians have invaded eastern ukraine. If you still want to retain your global military might,standup now and stop the Russian marauders.

Americans orchestrated the coup d'etat in Kiev that took their PAID PUPPETS to power...

Now they accuse Russia of orchestrating the revolt at Russian majority regions on Ukraine.

Americans are SUPREMELY, EXCEPTIONALLY HYPOCRITE!

For them the COUP that ousted Ukrainian elected president is AN ACT OF FREEDOM by the hands of the people and Russian resistance to let Russian communities in Ukraine to fall under the rule of American supported AGITATORS is not?

The FACT is it is going to be HARD for SELFISH DISHONEST Americans expect the WORLD to believe their "GOOD" intentions!

Steve, that proves absolutely nothing. In fact, that looks like me, my mom and my daughter-in-law when we are settling accounts. Seriously, you don't what you're looking at. Whereas this:

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2fYcHLouXY&w=640&h=360]

And this:

[youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIvRljAaNgg&w=640&h=360]

Add up like 2 2=4.

Note Chevron and Exxon Mobile logos on either side of the podium in the first video. Speaks volumes doesn't it?

I would also remind you that the Maidan protestors had to be supported in some way or other while they camped out for months on end. News flash. Activists survive by contributions.

Perhaps Russia is sending them money for food and if they are then so what? You don't really expect Mr. Lavrov to stop by and pass out cookies now do ya? Why that would be an outrage wouldn't it? Gosh, I wonder if the Russkies are on the phone now deciding who will represent the various regions once Ukraine becomes a federation, lol.

It seems pro-russian commentators has stepped up their activity in order to try to control information everywhere. Is it on Putins orders? Given that the try picture of the events is almost impossible to understand I still think the process in crimea and possibly the recent ones in east Ukraine follows the m o of the german expansion in 1936-40. Step 1. destabilize the interior, step 2. stage a bloody event, step 3. invade under the pretext to protect, step 4. Take what you want and dispose of the opposition.

I'll tell you what, if I was Russian, I would hightail it for the border! FYI, I am of Ukrainian descent. My grandparents were from Halychyna (western Ukraine). I worshipped my grandfather but I will tell you he had a true hatred of all things Russian. My grandmother was a good deal softer on this and taught me that the Ukrainians in the east were like Russians and that we were more like Polish. Ah, now it all makes sense.

I would not describe myself as "pro-Russian," more like pro-self-determination, pro-independence if that's what it takes. I would like to see Ukraine split peacefully. It's not like there isn't any precedent for that.

Ask yourself, why can't the people in eastern Ukraine have their referendum? Cui bono? Who benefits from forcing them to honor a false unity where ethnic tension and hatred will surely continue to grow and sprout horns. Answer: Those who want to profit and/or those who want to stick it to Russia. Those who want to govern eastern Ukraine without the consent of her people do not have noble intentions.

BTW, democracy is not about overthrowing democratically elected governments. It's about having a vote in a representative government so as to preclude any such violent anarchy and disorder. I'm very disappointed that our government thinks it is okay to promote activity that they would never allow here.

There are always jokers around who lighten the atmosphere. See the quotes below.

shedman
"America,standup now and act over the Ukrainian issue. not when the Russians have invaded eastern ukraine."
menesino
"Perhaps a warrant for Putin's arrest......"

In reality quite a few things have happened.

1. Crimea has joined Russia. Permanently
2. The US has appointed an (acting) Ukrainian Prime Minister
3. The Ukrainian Prime Minister is powerless.
He cannot have NATO, he cannot join the EU, he cannot cause unemployment in Eastern Ukraine, he cannot take Crimea, he can only agree to stringent conditions for loans and higher prices for gas
4. Future?
Putin would want it to stay as now. The oligarchs will get richer still, corrupt jokes as politicians etc, But the Eastern Ukrainians might be irked by 20 year-old Lvivian Fascists around them, high domestic gas prices, loss of jobs. Putin might have to take Eastern Ukraine if only to bring some order.

YaPIDo, shhh, I need to whisper because I don't want the 100,000 Russian troops to hear this and have one of them step over Obama's red line and start WWIII but there really isn't any border.

Did you know that Luhansk, Donetsk and Kharkiv all speak Slobozhan which is a transitional dialect. So do their don cousins across the way in Vornezh and Belgorad regions of Russian. Yeah, they do. And did you know that Svobodan Oleh Tyanybok once interrupted a Russian speaking MP with shouts of "Speak Ukrainian!" Under the Soviets, all Ukrainians had to learn Russian. So now Svoboda would like to return the favor. Do you see where I'm going with this?

But just to be sure, let me check with Vicky.

"Hi Vicky. I've been thinking. I don’t think Tyhanyboy should go into the government. I don’t think it’s necessary. I don’t think it’s a good idea. Yats is the guy, don't you think? ...Yeah, I'm really glad he said what he said too."

You are kidding or lying. First of all there is no clear boundaries between russian and ukranian languages. Because the rules of Ukranian language did not exist for a long long time meanwhile population speaked some local versions of mixed Russo-Ukranian language i.e. any regoin has its own "Ukranian". Thus, Ukranian language can be considered as a dialect of Russian one. Actually Ukrainian language slowly changes from Eastern Ukrainian boundary to western one from russian-like style to polish-like one. I should tall you clealy that (1) during 20th of XX sentury Bolsheviks pary condacted politics of "korenisation", and specially supported local languges, added some theretorries with mixed russo-ukranian population as Kharkov and Donetzk to Ukraine (Lenin) and forced citizens of these territories accept themselfs as ukranians. (2) In late Soviet Union theaching and learning of Ukranian was absolutely free and open everywhere over Ukrain as well as Russian. Ukranian was a subject of any secondary school in Ukraine. The number of classes of Ukrainian was equall to that of Russian. No any restrictions on Ukrainian language existed in USSR. Actually those who speaks Russian can learn spoken Ukranian during a months and vise versa. There are lot of shows on Ukranian TV where paticipants speak both Russian and Ukranian.

They are millions of Chinese in East of Russia and we are worried about their security and rights.
We might need to protect them and if they make a referendum, we will not hesitate to free Siberia, which was annexed
by Imperialist Russia from us. Siberia, the vital space for 1,6 billion Chinese is now occupied by barely 96 million Russians( actually successors of Ginghis Han, as the Russia disappeared in 1240 )

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