YodaBlues:weave: Meh, I have them both (Verizon on new iPad, AT&T on my iPhone 5) and I find them pretty even.

The one difference that really pissed me off about Verizon on iPad is, they don't allow one to buy international travel on it unless you are also a regular contract customer -- ie, not just buying data on the device.

With my older AT&T iPad if I went overseas I could just pre-buy a bucket of data to use on it.

Don't believe that? Go into a Verizon iPad with cellular and try and buy an international data package.

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Because Verizon uses cdma, which is pretty much US only. the rest of world uses gsm. your Verizon iPad lacks the necessary radio for overseas use.

The Verizon iPad has a GSM/HSPA quad band radio in it that works just fine domestically and internationally. A properly built HSPA network is plenty fast.

For comparison I've been running an AT&T SIM in mine. Verizon's network is far better in my area as far as VZ LTE coverage versus AT&T faux-G.

Still not giving up my unlimited international data so I will be with AT&T as long as they don't take that away.

Oh, and did any one mention this article is written by a troll or moron? Maybe even one in the same.

So the whole point of the "divorce" was because AT&T broke their contract and gave him a limit on a previously unlimited data plan, but he's never gone over the limit because (like most of us) he's usually connected to a wifi signal?

I wonder what silly thing an Android phone did that sent him in a huff about that too. Seems like there really was never a problem to begin with, and it doesn't sound like he's ever used any other mobile device but Apple.

I have a Verizon connected iPad and an AT&T connected iPhone 5 and I think I'd have to get pretty petty to come up with a complaint for either device or carrier.

xenovalent:Of course that'll never happen. He's already decided that Apple is, like, totally the BEST, so he doesn't see any need to compare a recent offering from an Android manufacturer to Apple's latest because he's already reached his conclusion.

I think in a voice assistant to voice assistant matchup between Google Search and Siri, Siri will always lose due to the implementation Apple decided to take. Siri takes the voice data and sends it across the web to the servers that run Siri, which then run voice recognition software and try to parse it into a query. That means it's sending a lot of data to get the command. Google Search has offline voice recognition engines built into Android, so the only thing Google Search sends across the web is a text query to the Google servers.

avalanche:FTFA: sorry Android users, your iPhone ripoffs are still stuck in 2009 and you got played by the salesgeek

Stopped reading right there.

Once he said he was texted saying he was being capped on data I quit taking him seriously, he's full of shiat since that didn't happen until a long time after T-Mobile merger died. And they cap unlimited users a lot higher than new users, his android crack just showed he was childish since Samsung phones have been proven superior for a while now.

Verizon is just as bad, it took ATT and their shiatty customer service to get people to forget how bad Verizon's was.

slykens1:YodaBlues: weave: Meh, I have them both (Verizon on new iPad, AT&T on my iPhone 5) and I find them pretty even.

The one difference that really pissed me off about Verizon on iPad is, they don't allow one to buy international travel on it unless you are also a regular contract customer -- ie, not just buying data on the device.

With my older AT&T iPad if I went overseas I could just pre-buy a bucket of data to use on it.

Don't believe that? Go into a Verizon iPad with cellular and try and buy an international data package.

Reference

Because Verizon uses cdma, which is pretty much US only. the rest of world uses gsm. your Verizon iPad lacks the necessary radio for overseas use.

The Verizon iPad has a GSM/HSPA quad band radio in it that works just fine domestically and internationally. A properly built HSPA network is plenty fast.

For comparison I've been running an AT&T SIM in mine. Verizon's network is far better in my area as far as VZ LTE coverage versus AT&T faux-G.

Still not giving up my unlimited international data so I will be with AT&T as long as they don't take that away.

Oh, and did any one mention this article is written by a troll or moron? Maybe even one in the same.

Sooooo what area do you live in that has Verizon 4g but no att 4g?

LTE is in every major city for ATT and unless you live in one of those you aren't getting LTE. Not even Verizon gives real LTE in a lot of areas, they just prep towers with the hardware.

But when the iPhone 5 arrived, it had a legitimate 4G LTE antenna in it, one which merely used a normal amount of battery life, and thus it became the first "4G LTE" phone which actually used 4G LTE.

Nope the Vivid and the Skyrocket were the first on ATT's network for LTE support. Ask him to switch jobs with me so he can find out how "great" the Iphones 5's battery life is.

You see, AT&T cheats and displays "4G" in the menubar when you're using what it used to call its "3G" network.

Apple pushed un update out that made the phones say 4g on the 3g before even had an LTE phone on the market. Which is my many Apple users call their 4 and 4 s "4g" it was subterfuge by apple to call attention away from them being late to the game with 4g.

The antennas used so much battery power that phones would only have lasted twenty minutes or so, and so these Android phones which claimed to be 4G LTE were actually just running 3G, with the 4G LTE antenna inside sitting there doing nothing, and the "LTE" in the menubar technically just an advertisement.

Just an outright lie. Tell that to my S2 Skyrocket that I get two days of charge out of even when I am literally sitting next to a tower, 40 feet away for at least 8 hours a day.

He is of the typical 90% iphone users, blind faithin a product that they know nothing about, nor know how to use, and then pulling facts out of his ass to prove a point, that is a lie.

fluffy2097:theflatline: As an ATT employee, I will never own an Apple product after my wifes Iphone dies. Speaking with Apple users when they get escalated to me are the worst entitled SOBs in the world.

If I paid $600 for $200 worth of phone, I'd think I was owed something too.

/a swift kick in the nuts for wasting money most likely.

I got an escalation for an iphone 5 activation because the customer, who had owned all previous versions of the iphone was mad because when asked to hit the home button on the phone, he said the rep was not specific enough. I asked him to hit the home button and he told me to be more specific, and I said "the round depression at the bottom of the screen, the only button the phone has" and he said i was a smart ass. How can you be more specific? farking George Jetson syndrome most iphone users have.

i had another customer who was sold a used iphone 5 as new in an apple store, and it was defective, i figured out what had happened, even talked to the previous owner, and I got apple to replace the phone, though the customer said it was ATT's job to replace the phone because he didnt feel like traveling back to the apple store. And I told him that he bought it there, he had to return it there and that he should be livid with Apple not ATT. He refused to beleive Apple had done no wrong. Cause you know shrink wrapping a return and reselling it is ok.

But when the iPhone 5 arrived, it had a legitimate 4G LTE antenna in it, one which merely used a normal amount of battery life, and thus it became the first "4G LTE" phone which actually used 4G LTE.

Nope the Vivid and the Skyrocket were the first on ATT's network for LTE support. Ask him to switch jobs with me so he can find out how "great" the Iphones 5's battery life is.

You see, AT&T cheats and displays "4G" in the menubar when you're using what it used to call its "3G" network.

Apple pushed un update out that made the phones say 4g on the 3g before even had an LTE phone on the market. Which is my many Apple users call their 4 and 4 s "4g" it was subterfuge by apple to call attention away from them being late to the game with 4g.

The antennas used so much battery power that phones would only have lasted twenty minutes or so, and so these Android phones which claimed to be 4G LTE were actually just running 3G, with the 4G LTE antenna inside sitting there doing nothing, and the "LTE" in the menubar technically just an advertisement.

Just an outright lie. Tell that to my S2 Skyrocket that I get two days of charge out of even when I am literally sitting next to a tower, 40 feet away for at least 8 hours a day.

He is of the typical 90% iphone users, blind faithin a product that they know nothing about, nor know how to use, and then pulling facts out of his ass to prove a point, that is a lie.

There is something about AT&T labeling their 3G as 4G on some phones. My Lumia 920 displays LTE for LTE, 4G for 3G, and E for Edge on AT&T. It never really bothered me that much, but yeah it happens.

steamingpile:Sooooo what area do you live in that has Verizon 4g but no att 4g?

LTE is in every major city for ATT and unless you live in one of those you aren't getting LTE. Not even Verizon gives real LTE in a lot of areas, they just prep towers with the hardware.

State College, PA.

We've had Verizon LTE for over a year but only HSPA from AT&T. To that, AT&T has only recently (last six months or so) started filling in the surrounding areas with HSPA. It used to be ten minutes out of town was 2G only. Rumor has been AT&T is going to launch LTE at any time - don't really care - HSPA is fast enough for me and the network only gets overloaded here on football Saturdays.

I don't know if it is the iPhone 5 or Verizon, but the call quality is not as good as when I had an iPhone 4 on ATT. 1 month after switching to Verizon ATT flipped on their LTE and right now it is much faster than Verizon's. I assume that is because they don't have as many users on it at the moment. I'm happy enough with Verizon and they do seem to have better signal in around where I live, but I think when my contract is up I will likely switch back to ATT. I really miss being able to look something up while talking on the phone.

Litterbox:I was a diehard iPhone user for a long time. Then I got Android and never looked back. Even on ATT, the phone is much more reliable and I rarely get dropped calls.

Where do you people live? I have NEVER had a dropped call unless I was travelling between towers in the boonies. I have ATT, and anywhere (literally) in Texas, it works fine. The data may suck when I'm out in BFE west Texas (where Odessa is a 'big town') or on the lakes in deep east Texas, etc. but I've never had a dropped call on flip phones or iphones.

theflatline:You see, AT&T cheats and displays "4G" in the menubar when you're using what it used to call its "3G" network.

Apple pushed un update out that made the phones say 4g on the 3g before even had an LTE phone on the market. Which is my many Apple users call their 4 and 4 s "4g" it was subterfuge by apple to call attention away from them being late to the game with 4g.

. Here you choose your phone first, carrier second. And since the iPhone is the only smartphone even worth considering (sorry Android users, your iPhone ripoffs are still stuck in 2009 and you got played by the salesgeek).....

its hard to understand phone snobbery, if the other phones were crap, logically no one would buy them, because smartphones have been around for years now and ppl arent that stupid.

I buy android because it does the essentials and its fun to tinker with. My kid would rather have an iphone because the app library is larger including many games he plays that may not have an android version. In android you can make your own app literally on the phone; on an iphone its difficult to do much of anything outside of a store app. At least thats how it used to be. Apple has that sucker way too locked down.

I use at&t/iPhone for work and Verizon/Droid for personal use. I like my Droid better than the iPhone but it is only really a personal preference. I like to fiddle with my phone, my wife just wants it to work, she has an iPhone, I have an Android.

For work I can see the benefit of both carriers. In my (very large) work area at&t has more towers dispersed out to the fringe areas, and Verizon has better connections in the cities and high traffic areas (freeways). So it is at&t for the coverage of fringe areas, Verizon for the quality. I use to say I never use the surf/talk feature of at&t but then once I did.

For personal use without a doubt it is Verizon. 95% of the time when I use my phone I'm in areas where I get better reception with Verizon. The price is about the same for both carriers, but at&t is almost always my second choice. at&t customer support use to really suck, but now it has improved to simply worse than Verizon (this may also because I have had a business relationship with at&t for years now).

CSB:There is one thing that has followed me with at&t bill I have ever received (in the last 20+ years). Eventually (sooner than later) they will bill you for something that they shouldn't. This has been true with business bills (to a tune of ten's of thousands of dollars) to personal bills of all sorts; DSL, uverse, landline, cell service, you name it, I have tried it. With the same results. DSL almost doubled my bill, uverse added $2 two months into a 12 month contract, landline would get phone numbers we never called (when switching carriers the mysterious phone numbers never showed up again) etc... I had to create a database and script to check every at&t bill at work because they charged my company $20,000 in unknown charges in 6 months. Of course now that we have been verifying each line of each bill the mysterious charges are gone (and they paid us back for the mystery charges). In my personal at&t bills I have had things like cancelling my landline service when I moved, then getting sent to collections four months later with incorrect charges (services that would not work because I cancelled my landline), without ever getting a bill from at&t (they had my email address and my mail was being forwarded). I could go on, but it is pretty much the same story with EVERY bill I have had with at&t.

Personally I have not had the same experience with Verizon. In general Verizon bills are easier to follow and contain no mysterious charges and I have had no issues cancelling services when needed. I keep saying "Never Again!" with at&t but they are the biggest game in town, it is hard to avoid them.

Switched from AT&T to Verizon for the iPhone 5. LTE is so bad I usually force it to stay on 3G. My coverage at work (Times Square area) just sucks in general. Not that AT&T was any better (and I don't have enough experience with their LTE to compare), but I was hoping Verizon would be their usual superior-NYC selves.

Even though I'm disappointed, it's worth it for free tethering alone. I'm not surprised that now that Verizon has had the iPhone and iPad for a while, they're having just as much trouble with congestion on their data network.

I kept waiting for there to be a point to that article. It seems like he traded some reception in his living room for the ability to surf while talking and a throttled unlimited data plan. Depending on how bad the reception was in his house, that seems like a wash at best.

Animatronik:its hard to understand phone snobbery, if the other phones were crap, logically no one would buy them,

I would say most people that have a preference don't honestly believe the "other" phone is crap, it's just not really as good as their choice, and tbh, for some people the reasons they have to like "their" phone can be totally legit, and for them "their" phone actually may be better. I personally go with Android, and will never get an iPhone as long as you have no option to throw in more memory, or be able to swap a battery when needed.

because smartphones have been around for years now and ppl arent that stupid.

As an Android user, I have to admit I am sometimes jealous of the app selection available on the iPhone. Not to mention the media selection built in (Google Play has no music store in Canada, and their movie, book, and magazine selection leaves much to be desired).