First I'd like to thank leo for hosting/posting this little bz. Second, good luck to my opponent Supermutie. Lastly good luck to me.

Since this bz is only a 4 post max, I'm going to get right to the point and avoid adding too many fillers here.

Most of you already know Nova Prime and some of his exploits. I'll leave it as that in regards to him, but will slowly uncover his capabilities as this thread moves along.

My character opponent is Monica Rambeau. Aka Spectrum, Photon, Pulsar, and even Captain Marvel. She is superfast, manipulates various forms of energy along the electromagnetic spectrum, can go intangible in light form, etc., etc. For those of you unfamiliar, here's more backup info.
http://www.comicvine.com/monica-rambeau/4005-11337/

She is one tough cookie. However having said all that, she will not win here. For all her power and versatility, she is tailor made for Nova Prime.

Prep
Not much here as per the agreed upon prep allowance. Gravimetric shields max! Let's say a full body grav shield and the option to expand after prep. Here's a little taste of NP's shielding capability.
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Plan
Due to prep, grav shields to max are up as soon as I'm in the battlefield. I'm then instantly tracking my opponent via WM, speeding around the planet(Mogo is battlefield) at my maximum flight speed while keeping as much distance away from my opponent. From this position, I have multiple options and combos to take her down. Grav pulses, energy absorption, grav bubble/node...

Multitasking
Now it all comes down to multitasking. With my grav shields up, I'm prepared for anything she throws at me and I have a whole host of options she has no counter for. It's all about multitasking, multitasking, multitasking.

How? Worldmind. With WM directly feeding into my cerebellum, I can target, scan, calculate, perform tactical analysis at supercomputer speeds. And Worldmind is virtually second to none as supercomputers go in the Marvel U.
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Speed
Now couple my brain which is now virtually a working super duper uber computer, to my speed.

First, here is a detailed look of how even a rookie Nova is able to comprehend his surroundings when moving at incredible speeds. Keep in mind though this is Sam Alexander, at super speeds this is a great example of what any Nova sees.
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Note: Space Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, and the Speed Force is allowed provided that the drafted characters are low herald and below.

Functional Immortals are Banned: Functional immortals such as Lobo, Mr. Immortal, Deadpool are disallowed or voided.

Standard Gear Rule Character comes in with what he is historically known for caring.

Non standard gear must be created you NOT grab it from your lab, and equip yourself with it.

BFR is banned.

Self BFR is only good for phasing.

Good for 1 second.
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Celey has a former tourney winner and a top pick at this tier (if not above) in Nova Prime.

So this should be quite a match-up, Celey is definitely gonna see the light after this one.

Meanwhile I have the Hottest chick in the game with the nicknames.

So Judges you can vote for Photon, Pulsar, Captain Marvel, Spectrum, Day Star, Lady of Light, etc as long as you vote for Monica Rambeau.

And here's why you should vote for her:

1. I'm sure my opponent will raise shields. I will counter that by instantly going into energy form when the bell rings, and split my energy form into several miniature energy forms that are under my mental command.

As you can see each miniature MR (Monica Rambeau) is able to react and fly at light-speed against "a thousand attacks at lightspeed." They are also intangible and doesn't cause MR any strain. She was able to quickly break free of the force field. Also note how this super genius monkey created by Red Ghost designed the force field to shift at random wavelengths and still it wasn't enough to hold MR.

Like with Alternate Kang's shields and the real Kang even states that "she'll overload my shields in moments. And we all know that Kang's tech is more advance than Nova's being from the future and all that.

I have no reason to ever come out of my intangible energy form meaning Nova Prime will not be able to touch me or blast me or trap me. Meanwhile I fry/shut down his systems, blast him with intense heat radiation, and absorbs his energy, enough of which to give me the win.

Supermutant

1st Post

Great match-up. Since my ability to phase through and disrupt advance alien tech systems is key here, allow me to re-emphasis and add some details from my OP.

The scans below show how Servitor Robots were giving Thor all kinds of trouble, with their ability to regenerate and multiply. MR was able to phase thru and drain it's extra dimensional energies, ultimately destroying it in one shot.

Furthermore, she just starts showing off as below she instantly goes from light to radio waves, to cosmic waves, to electricity, to radiant heat, to x-rays, to gamma waves, and even hard radiation. Without the slightest strain or any showing of fatigue.

So there goes Nova's supercomputer along with its targeting, scanning, and multitasking. And given the fact that most of her energy forms are invisible and intangible, Nova will literally never see MR coming.

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Combat & Maneuverability Speed

Nova has great travel speed, but tends to get outmaneuvered in close quarters.

Even with a fully functioning Worldmind, Nova would not be able to keep pace with MR reflexes and combat speed. His attacks would be dodged if they could harm her, and she has dodged a thousand light speed attacks in a confined area as shown in the very first couple of scans. But, Nova doesn't have the close quarters speed feats to evade MR's light-speed phasing attacks.

Energy Absorbtion

Celey's scan shows Nova being in significant pain from just absorbing the gun blasts of some cannon fodder. It definitely did way more harm to him than his enemies.

In the very next scan Nova has Koed himself while Gladiator is in decent shape. Also Gladiator was holding back as this was a test for Richard. Anyway MR would be more than happy to help Nova knock himself out by donating a little heat vision to him.

Celey Post 1
So the basis of my plan was pretty straightforward.
Plan
Due to prep, grav shields to max are up as soon as I'm in the battlefield. I'm then instantly tracking my opponent via WM, speeding around the planet(Mogo is battlefield) at my maximum flight speed while keeping as much distance away from my opponent. From this position, I have multiple options and combos to take her down. Grav pulses, energy absorption, grav bubble/node...

Now let's see why it is virtually a foolproof plan.

For all Monica's power, she has some glaring weaknesses when it comes to an opponent like Nova Prime.

One of which is her susceptibility to energy drain and weakness from energy drain.

In the very next scan Nova has Koed himself while Gladiator is in decent shape. Also Gladiator was holding back as this was a test for Richard. Anyway MR would be more than happy to help Nova knock himself out by donating a little heat vision to him.

That version of Nova had just a miniscule portion of the Nova force compared to Prime levels which pointed I already pointed out in my original scan. Him having trouble with absorbing energies was due to the fact that he was still in the beginning stages of using that ability. Both instances happened in one issue. Keep in mind also he does not have the benefit of WM assisting in any way when using his absorbing abilities. As the series went on, he made huge strides with his ability to absorb energies including ones that were incredibly exotic.

Absorbs the Deathstorm energy(stated to have properties that throw the laws of physics out the window). It's immense surface size was big enough to encircle the earth many times.
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Let's put this idea to rest that he won't be able to absorb the types of energy she can transform into.

Now lets move on to Worldmind and tracking. I firmly believe she has no real option against the type of opponent that Nova represents. At the onset of the battle, I'm already zipping around the planet at my top flight speed, while calculating and tracking her every move at supercomputer speed due to WM directly feeding info into my brain. Basically we are of one mind.

His plan:
Originally posted by leonidas

And here's why you should vote for her:

1. I'm sure my opponent will raise shields. I will counter that by instantly going into energy form when the bell rings, and split my energy form into several miniature energy forms that are under my mental command.

As you can see each miniature MR (Monica Rambeau) is able to react and fly at light-speed against "a thousand attacks at lightspeed." They are also intangible and doesn't cause MR any strain. She was able to quickly break free of the force field. Also note how this super genius monkey created by Red Ghost designed the force field to shift at random wavelengths and still it wasn't enough to hold MR.

Also notice she destroyed that force field after being weakened from energy draining. And this force field easily held up against Wakandan tech.
Btw she did not break out quickly. She was a prisoner for some time. She was not able to beat the changing energy pattern, but instead took advantage of a tiny weakness by testing the integrity of different points of the sphere. And she was not significantly drained since the monkey specifically stated that he wanted to drain her slowly.

I will know her approach and know what kind of energies she is using. How you say? Through my extensive scanning abilities. That knowledge will give me an incredibly huge advantage with counters like energy drain and straight up gravimetric pulses.

Like with Alternate Kang's shields and the real Kang even states that "she'll overload my shields in moments. And we all know that Kang's tech is more advance than Nova's being from the future and all that.

Shields against Blastaar amped by cosmic control rod.
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It's debatable that she can even bypass Nova's gravity powered shields considering it's not your traditional energy based ones.

For example she has found problems with exotic fields and shields. Sometimes outright stopped.

Annihilus's tech based null-field has given her a hard time. She only pierced it later in the issue by travelling as far as the sun then sling-shotting back with the aid of a star-core satellite.
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Just because someone is from the future, it doesn't mean they have better tech.

She bypassed that planet shield by destroying one of the satellites which was a part of the "tapestry" making up the entirety of the shield. Like pulling a card out of the base if a house of cards. Not that impressive.

Monica did not absorb extra-dimensional energies with the Servitor. She simply blew it up from the inside. And Thor having trouble with them is laughable since he literally just destroyed a whole army of them with a huge lightning shot.

I have no reason to ever come out of my intangible energy form meaning Nova Prime will not be able to touch me or blast me or trap me. Meanwhile I fry/shut down his systems, blast him with intense heat radiation, and absorbs his energy, enough of which to give me the win.

You're not seriously comparing these weak feebs to Nova Prime are you? Even I don't think you believe he can overload Richie.
Check out the Deathstorm scan again to refresh your memory. You know... Surface big enough to encircle the earth many times. Since I can smell you coming a mile away, you are liable to be energy drained or just flat out eat a gravimetric pulse. Or both. Take your pick.

celeyhyga17

Celey Post 2

I've already shot down your Servitor scans and my supposed weakness after absorbing blasts from alien weaponry and Gladz's laser vision... Now on to more important things.

Originally posted by Supermutant

Once MR bypass his shield as mentioned in OP, Nova doesn't have any defense to a light-speed phase of electromagnetic radiation/energy frying and/or overloading of his circuits.

Nevermind the Worldmind

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As you can see from the above

Even if you do bypass my grav shields(doubtful), I've already prepared a foolproof plan that will easily take you out. My options are endless and detrimental to your supposed attack plan. I will sense your energy signature and will see you coming from miles away. Your plan directly puts you in danger of a whole host of combination tactics.

a) Energy drain process will have started which will most likely weaken you and pop you out of light form. I can reach you anywhere on the planet with my absorbing ability.
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Then simple ko through grav pulse, energy blasts, or punch to the noggin if you believe you wouldn't just straight up pass out.

b) Or I can just blast you silly with one hell of a gravimetric pulse when close enough in proximity.

Lobotomizes Ego with a gravimetric pulse that was "off the scale"(as per WM).
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c) Grav node or bubble, then you know the rest.

My initial plan simply allows for just so many options. Flying at my top speeds, shielded, and scanning the heck out of you. Thank you WM.

Speed:
Not arguing that she is faster in maneuverability. But the idea that he tends to get outmaneuvered in cqc is false. You took one crappy showing and ran with it? Come on brah...

Seems slow here.
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Or here when he punks a speedster(Speed Demon).
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Or when he outquicks a guy who has reaction time in the nanoseconds. Might as well consider Gladz a slow brick the way Nova was slipping in and out of sight.
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How about dancing around multiple blasts with ease?
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Extremely close quarters and virtually unseen in his blitz.
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But all of that is moot. I'm not here to dance around with you in close quarters having a blast fight. My plan is basically goading you to come at me with all you've got. And right on cue you pretty much indulged me judging from the basis of your plan. With my setup, you basically walked into trap that only ends in one way. Your @$$ getting whupped!

It's mainly my travel speed which is a strength of mine that I'll be mostly utilizing. Remember my set up. Fight starts....
I'm already at max shields as per prep. I reach my top speeds zipping around the planet, keeping my distance, and all the while scanning for your approach so I can spring my counters. Thus ending your initial plan of attack. You were doomed from the start.

And for good measure... Here's more of my flight/travel speed w/o stargates.

But first a refresher.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17

Speed
Now couple my brain which is now virtually a working super duper uber computer, to my speed.

First, here is a detailed look of how even a rookie Nova is able to comprehend his surroundings when moving at incredible speeds. Keep in mind though this is Sam Alexander, at super speeds this is a great example of what any Nova sees.
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Immediately accelerating to 0.4 light speed just after reaching real space from a stargate.
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Now some reinforcements.

Earth to outer space in two panels. Nothing outruns a Nova. Not even an evil Quasar.
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From earth to the sun in two panels, then back to earth.
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A couple of points.

Originally posted by Supermutant

Nevermind the Worldmind

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As you can see from the above

One guess as to who can

Not sure why you think you can achieve what a babel spire did to countless victims. Phalanx/transmode virus attacks would take down virtually anybody considering what they achieved in Annihilation Conquest. You don't have that power period...
Keep in mind also Richie was not prepared for such an assault. He was traveling to Hala thinking he was needed to help. Here I have max shields up. Plus WM tanked that attack and was functional again immediately.

Same with this other scan of yours.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/23656269/novaforceabsorbed.jpg.html

You are not a trans level character capable of what Annihilus can do. Annihilus would eat even high heralds during Annihilation. What's worse is your reliance on energy based attacks. Heck you turn into forms of energy yourself. Imagine if MR was in that situation. She wouldn't even have been able to resist as long as Richie did. Quickest snack for Anni if I ever saw one.

Supermutant

2nd POST

Instead of replying directly quote for quote alot, I'm going to address all issues with a simpler format and quote key information as needed. Hopefully this will make everything easier to follow along for readers, b/c this post is quite the game changer.

1. In the words of MC Hammer, You can't touch this.

Celey relies on this and gravimetric shielding as his only defenses to my intangibility and phasing.

Here's the problem for him, Harrow the name of the psionic entity broke free of Nova's grav node as soon as it change its pattern.

So a weaken entity that can become intangible, can easily escape Nova grav node as soon as it decides to change its pattern. And Nova couldn't capture it again.

Meanwhile MR can change energy patterns and wavelengths at will to bypass shields. Even the shields of Thanos ex-ship Sanctuary II. Changing from light to radio waves and still keep shifting frequencies to break through.

3. As far as Nova trying to absorb MR which is the only prayer he has- it took Stark in his most advance armor (Endo-Sym) combined with the probability altering powers of the Scarlet With to accomplish it, with prep.

All absorbing MR did for Ironman was give him a bfr for one or two minutes. MR comes back in perfect condition even causing Tony's suit some problems in the process. And its not a trick that will work twice.

So yeah even if Nova was to absorb her, that would just allow her to be in his suit messing stuff up. And he definitely would not be able to keep her for any length of time, as already proven Nova can't trap those who can alter their patterns.

4. Worldmind is done, he is weak to that radiation as previously shown. WM went offline and had to reboot, with my light speed reactions that's all I need. A second or less mess up your systems. Plus there's nothing you can do to stop me from hitting with that radiation over and over again and at point blank range. Remember what WM got was just a faint dose over thousands of miles away if not more. Nova was still 6 mins away from Hala even with his travel speed.

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MR is coming at Nova with lightspeed with a hundred or some mini intangible mrs at point blank range. WM will be rebooting every second, meanwhile MR is phrasing and blasting Nova to a ko or death.

5. Speed--none of your speed feats shown the kind of light speed 360 degree reflex movement that I have already shown for MR.

I will touch on some scans you showed w/o beat a dead horse. All your Monica scans shows a much less experience, less powerful and not upgraded version compared to what Spectrum is currently.

Basically Kang can get any tech from any time from any timeline. So whatever he does shielding/trapping wise is far out of the capacity for Nova. And MR has had success against his shields and tech anyway. MR was able to overload the Wrecking Crew and destroy the device that was siphoning away her powers. So thanks for showing that. Quasar was also drained from those energy vampires who also use a gas substance. Don't see how that helps Nova.

You brought up the old nova scans, then complain when I showed the correct context.

Don't know why you continue to reference Gladiator. This is what happens when mohawk man doesn't hold back against Nova Prime and the Nova Corps.

Yeah that's right they surrender, the ones that are still alive that is.

What have we learn today kids?

-Nova Prime cannot trap a intangible being that can change wavelengths, nor shield against them.
-His shields are susceptible to energy and force attacks especially in combination.
-MR reaction speed is light speed capped, Nova is at Quicksilver's level.
-Worldmind is weak against radiation which MR can produce in spades.
-Nova Prime's only change if everything goes his way results in a temp bfr and there is no bfr in the match.
-MR has been substantially upgraded as current Spectrum with the power to destroy a planet just with force, speed, hard light combo.

Meanwhile I have adapted to what suits my character best, and proven how effectively it will be done.

celeyhyga17

Celey 3rd Post
Phew.. Judging from the last few days, I thought this was going to be a cakewalk. At least now I know I'm in a dog fight.

shifty

Well let's get to it.

Originally posted by Supermutant

Celey relies on this and gravimetric shielding as his only defenses to my intangibility and phasing.

Here's the problem for him, Harrow the name of the psionic entity broke free of Nova's grav node as soon as it change its pattern.

Also Harrow becomes cold and weaken from not possessing someone.

So a weaken entity that can become intangible, can easily escape Nova grav node as soon as it decides to change its pattern. And Nova couldn't capture it again.
Harrow did not easily break free from a low level gravity node. It learned while it was detained. It wasn't until much later that it started killing again. And the idea that Nova could not capture it again is false. In fact it's more likely he was going to capture it again with a more powerful gravity node if not for one of the fleeing starships drive ignition interrupting him from doing so.
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And the idea that Harrow becomes "weakened" is a bit puzzling to me. Not sure why you would think that just because it felt "cold" and wanted to "snuggle" in another host. Harrows statement was a whole lot of nothing. Did you forget that it psionically feeds on pain, fear, and terror? It's like you read a totally different comic. If anything it was extremely powerful since it was feeding on a whole planet full of people who were experiencing such pain, fear, and terror. You know... The whole Galactus eating their phukkin planet!

Originally posted by Supermutant

Meanwhile MR can change energy patterns and wavelengths at will to bypass shields. Even the shields of Thanos ex-ship Sanctuary II. Changing from light to radio waves and still keep shifting frequencies to break through.

But wait its gets better, below Nebula has the shields at full power.

MR stills breaks through by turning into a huge electromagnetic storm.

Even the Herald Firelord couldn't break through them and avoid the countermeasures.

Sanctuary II shields are so strong that the ship is fully protected against the explosion of a planetoid by an anti-matter torpedo at close range.

"Compared to this reaction a thermonuclear bomb is like striking a match."

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I mean can there be any doubt that Thanos ex- command ship shields at full power are so much more stronger than Nova's.

Furthermore, I challenge Celey to produce any scans of Nova being able to permanently trap or shield from any intangible being especially one that can change its pattern.

Nova does not use standard energy shields. He uses gravimetric shields. Going by feats, at max levels I'm more inclined to bet on them keeping her out. At the very least long enough to severely weaken her with energy drain or disrupt her form with a powerful gravimetric pulse.

And btw your Firelord scan... Through sheer power, he helped buckle the shield with his onslaught. It is a shared feat for Monica since he attacked while she was producing the electric storm ultimately overloading the shield. It's more than once now I've corrected you on some of your interpretations.
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I already gave you my thoughts regarding intangible beings and my gravimetric powers.

Originally posted by Supermutant

2. Nova's defenses and Shields have been breached by energy and force.

The Drive Blast of a single ship knocked him out.

Energy lasers from Gamora and Drax will kill him "quickly and for nothing," as stated by Worldmind.

Energy barrier leaves him burnt to a crisp and moments away from death.

Supernova who at the time wields the Nova Force, get hurts and knockdown by Firestar's blasts.

And wow at some of these scans.. Citing drive engine and what not. For one, he wasn't at max shields there and was caught off guard.

Drax and Gamora? Should I even bother? Here's also a tidbit about that scene. You do know he only had access to 17% of the Nova force due to the phalanx transmode virus right? You also just cited one of the best durability feats ever in a comic. The next few pages has him diving straight into a neutron star causing a massive gravity quake for crying out loud! At 17 phukkin percent capacity! Are you serious?
hysterical

Energy levels too great? Worldmind burnt out? He was in one of Galactus's energy siphons for crying out loud again! One's that he uses to male snacks out of whole planets. Gah-lak-tuus! On top of that he survived the incredible gravity pull of one of Big G's energy larders. Again you keep citing tremendous power showings that would wreck almost anyone. Why?

Energy barrier that leaves him burnt to a crisp? I give up.
At this point I have to start thanking you for bringing up Nova's feats. Same energy barrier was so powerful and so immense it covered all of Kree space. Kree space spans multiple solar systems. Lets not also forget he hit the damn thing at multiple speeds of light and severely hindered by the Phalanx transmode virus. Really says a lot about his auto-shields. I mean who would survive that kind of thing. Sigh...

Shields.
Let's talk about Nova's shields since you love to downplay it so damn much. Aside from those massive feats you already showed to the judges(a big thanks btw :lol, I think it's about time I put this subject to rest.
Before I gave you a taste. Then I gave you a spoonful. Now here's some that you can choke on!

Shield's against a reality warper who had not one, but two all powerful(and magical) Ka stones.
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I'll shed more light on your scan. His shields held up long enough for him to survive this.
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And if that wasn't enough. "Herald my rage!" Wait did I get that right? It spanned multiple star systems destroying everything including a Watcher?
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And to answer to question...

"I mean can there be any doubt that Thanos ex- command ship shields at full power are so much more stronger than Nova's."

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Originally posted by Supermutant

Meanwhile thanks to recent upgrades MR has the power to destroy a planet with her combo of speed, energy and force.

The Maker (Ultimate Reed Richards) confirms she has this level of power.

Power enough to fight against a cosmic reality warper, and hold him against his will.

Suffice to say that her current power level is enough to ko Nova.

Same threat level as Blue Marvel according to Superior Ironman.
Hmm...

Originally posted by leonidas
this would be pre-upgrade monica i assume--not the one who could supposedly destroy a planet...correct?

in any event, LET THE GAMES COMMENCE!

figure out rules, pm me OP's and i'll open the thread.

should be an interesting match up!

Originally posted by Supermutant
Nova Prime- a very tough and popular choice. I wasn't aware that she received such an upgrade.

Originally posted by leonidas
happened in the last couple issues of avengers just prior to the secret wars bullsh!t that is taking place. you're fine so long as you don't reference those last couple months scans. i think, iirc, it happened when blue marvel healed her, or changed her, or something or other. she's a great pick and the VAST majority of her history will be available. send in write ups when you gottem and i'll open it up in the bz forum when i get both.
Just sayin... Anyways you can have planet busting Monica. Just wished you would have given me a heads up.

celeyhyga17

Post 3 Cont...

Now back to the match...

Reality warper? I guess I already showed you my reality warper. I also would like to add that though it was a great feat, it was BM's son who's been trapped outside the omniverse who beat Quantrell. She was more a distraction than actually fighting him. Didn't want anyone to get the wring idea.
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Sure she can ko Nova Prime. Provided she doesn't get ko'd first. Seeing as she has a shiet ton of obstacles... Shields, energy drain, grav pulse, etc....

Originally posted by Supermutant

3. As far as Nova trying to absorb MR which is the only prayer he has- it took Stark in his most advance armor (Endo-Sym) combined with the probability altering powers of the Scarlet Witch to accomplish it, with prep.

All absorbing MR did for Ironman was give him a bfr for one or two minutes. MR comes back in perfect condition even causing Tony's suit some problems in the process. And its not a trick that will work twice.

As a matter of fact when she comes back along with Blue Marvel, Tony and his Axis Avengers realize they can't win, so they turn tail and retreat after making up a lame excuse.

So yeah even if Nova was to absorb her, that would just allow her to be in his suit messing stuff up. And he definitely would not be able to keep her for any length of time, as already proven Nova can't trap those who can alter their patterns.

I'm sorry, but endo-syn armor is no Nova Prime both in power and in capability. It's just not.

And I'm not here to "absorb" Monica in her entirety. I'm here to drain her so as to weaken her enough for my finishing moves. And if I was to absorb her fully, you think that will stop Richie considering what he has been able to go through? All the stuff he has been put through? Heck if the Phalanx couldn't take him, you think she can mess him up internally? That's a resounding no.

Energy Drain
Like I said, the idea that he can't drain her is silly. Energies from the electromagnetic spectrum is child's play to what he's absorbed.

Absorbs energy from the mystical Ka stone the returns the favor to the Sphinx.
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4. Worldmind is done, he is weak to that radiation as previously shown. WM went offline and had to reboot, with my light speed reactions that's all I need. A second or less mess up your systems. Plus there's nothing you can do to stop me from hitting with that radiation over and over again and at point blank range. Remember what WM got was just a faint dose over thousands of miles away if not more. Nova was still 6 mins away from Hala even with his travel speed.

MR is coming at Nova with lightspeed with a hundred or some mini intangible mrs at point blank range. WM will be rebooting every second, meanwhile MR is phrasing and blasting Nova to a ko or death.
Fain dose??? Again. Are we not looking at the same comic here? Worldmind went off line and the briefly at that from a "radiation pulse of astonishing magnitude" as per the comic. You don't have that kind of power. Unless you're telling me you're a babel spire that can produce impenetrable shields that encompass multiple star systems and enslave countless powered individuals along with billions upon billions of civilians, you will not duplicate such a feat. Let's not forget Richie was taken by surprise thinking he was needed to help the Kree. He didn't expect an attack from their capital. In this scenario Nova is ready for you with max shields on.

Originally posted by Supermutant

5. Speed--none of your speed feats shown the kind of light speed 360 degree reflex movement that I have already shown for MR.

Micro-second reaction, thinking, and process time.

Allow me to quote Leo again who has already won a tourney with Nova and is going up against Nova currently.

So yeah nothing you have shown negates that. Even with WM my reflex/reaction speed which is mainly what matters here, is light-speed where yours is Quicksilver level.

For giggles Nova telling Northstar, "I don't have that kind of speed."
Nice of you to quote leo. I guess...

Again I'm utilizing mainly my travel speed here. I am not looking to trade in close quarters combat. I'm doing my best to keep some distance to set you up for my attacks and counters.

Speed.

Refresher...

Detailed look of how even a rookie Nova is able to comprehend his surroundings when moving at incredible speeds. At super speeds this is a great example of what any Nova sees.
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Immediately accelerating to 0.4 light speed just after reaching real space from a stargate.
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Earth to outer space in two panels. Nothing outruns a Nova. Not even an evil Quasar.
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From earth to the sun in two panels, then back to earth.
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And since you like to mudsling like a politician , I'm certainly not above that. That's Quicksilver level speed there brah.
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Originally posted by Supermutant
2 Continued
I will touch on some scans you showed w/o beat a dead horse. All your Monica scans shows a much less experience, less powerful and not upgraded version compared to what Spectrum is currently.

Basically Kang can get any tech from any time from any timeline. So whatever he does shielding/trapping wise is far out of the capacity for Nova. And MR has had success against his shields and tech anyway. MR was able to overload the Wrecking Crew and destroy the device that was siphoning away her powers. So thanks for showing that. Quasar was also drained from those energy vampires who also use a gas substance. Don't see how that helps Nova.

You brought up the old nova scans, then complain when I showed the correct context.

Don't know why you continue to reference Gladiator. This is what happens when mohawk man doesn't hold back against Nova Prime and the Nova Corps.

Yeah that's right they surrender, the ones that are still alive that is.

Well Monica may have been "upgraded", but evidently you have proven that she is still susceptible to being manipulated through energy drain as per your scan with Iron Man.
There's also that instance in which she was totally phukked up by Proxima Midnight in her energy form. When facing an opponent like Nova Prime, her energy form is more a detriment to her than an advantage.

We go by feats here. Kang can get the most advance tech in the universe, but if it does jack shiet how impressive could it be?

You showed context that was somewhat irrelevant since Nova at that time literally just tried absorbing energy on those two instances(literally issue #1 of that run).. Which I alluded to by the way before you even showed your "context". I even followed those up with an absorbing feat that was so far and away more impressive so as to show his growth in that ability.

All those scans were to show that energy drain is a very real threat to her.
To drive that home to the judges, here's even more examples.

Iron Man has messed her energy form more than once.
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Good job on showing Gladiator beating up on a rookie Nova Prime who's not even Richie. You do know that Malik Tarcel was barely even a Nova let alone a Prime? Richie has no problems going toe to toe against Strontians.

Here Richie is in complete control against Xenith until he gets distracted. Xenith thinking she now has the upper hand doesn't realize that Richie was consulting his "Novapedia" to end the fight quickly ffter learning his brother was alive after all.
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celeyhyga17

Post 3 Cont...
Sorry for the extended post.

Originally posted by Supermutant

What have we learn today kids?

-Nova Prime cannot trap a intangible being that can change wavelengths, nor shield against them.
-His shields are susceptible to energy and force attacks especially in combination.
-MR reaction speed is light speed capped, Nova is at Quicksilver's level.
-Worldmind is weak against radiation which MR can produce in spades.
-Nova Prime's only change if everything goes his way results in a temp bfr and there is no bfr in the match.
-MR has been substantially upgraded as current Spectrum with the power to destroy a planet just with force, speed, hard light combo.

Basically we learn that Spectrum wins.

One more thing since Celey loves Nova's shields so much.

Add force-field suffocation to the list of the way she can beat Nova.

One more, more thing --keeping a fail planned = failure not success.

Meanwhile I have adapted to what suits my character best, and proven how effectively it will be done.
facepalm
Your scan shows the energy she already hit him with before Mar-vell was able to erect his shield. It's right there in your own scan. I won't have that problem since my shields are at max levels from the get go.

-Richie has trapped intangibles and can trap them again with increased power grav nodes.
-His shields can tank attacks with amped reality warpers and enraged cosmic powerhouses.
-Nova's flight speed even though is capped at light can actually go superluminal with utter ease.
-Worldmind can be briefly knocked off-line by incredibly powerful radiation waves from power sources that can shield multiple star systems.. Don't know how that's a positive for you.
-Nova has multiple tools in his arsenal in which he can use to ultimately take you out.
-Planet destroying hard light won't do much when it crashes into shields that make planet busting mere child's play.

Now we've got all that out of the way. Now comes the double left hook you never saw coming...

Left Hook #1

a) Monica has no real defense vs tp attacks.

Tp'ed by one of Maelstrom's goons.
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Marvel Girl in cocoon was making her loose concentration.
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Super Adaptoid using Mentallo's power strikes her with a tp bolt.
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b) Monica still harbors a strong fear of her near death experience. This happened when she dispersed too much of her energy against a leviathan(Marrina)
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That fear is evident in her own book.
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And in a more recent series with Capt./Ms. Marvel.
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c) Now why in the world would I bring up these two points when Nova is not a telepath you ask? Correct he is not. However the Worldmind gives him an ability that will give what I feel a useful advantage in this fight. He can instruct WM to peer into Monica's mind and even glean a lifetime of memories which he will then use for the sole purpose of distraction. Say a very distinct fear for example. I will bombard her with memories of that fear. Between two really fast characters, causing someone to lose focus even for a few moments can be dangerous.
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But wait, there's more....

Left Hook #2

You already know my multilayered plan of defense then attack. Here's another layer as there weren't enough already.
Let's say you survive being energy drained. (doubtful)
Let's say you survive being dispersed with a gravimetric pulse.(doubtful)
With WM taking care of all scanning and calculating trajectories directly feeding into my cerebellum, I will have already calculated a mini stargate that I can employ if you for some unbelievable reason survive my multilayered assault.
You will be transported a few hundred yards away in the air virtually helpless.
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This will be the end result leaving you vulnerable to even a gravimetric sneeze.
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As per bz rules this should be legal.
Note: Space Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, and the Speed Force is allowed provided that the drafted characters are low herald and below.

so i saw mutant on the other day and he never posted here or pm'd celey, so i'm going to go ahead and officially call this match. judges can either post rulings right here, or pm them to me directly. whoever the judges are...?

One_Angry_Scot

Originally posted by leonidas
so i saw mutant on the other day and he never posted here or pm'd celey, so i'm going to go ahead and officially call this match. judges can either post rulings right here, or pm them to me directly. whoever the judges are...?

Don't worry I'm one judge. I'm working on my writeup. Like mentioned to you via PM. I'm working on it each day.

leonidas

lol i know you're a judge. not sure who the other 2 were supposed to be.

LordofBrooklyn

Supermutant ran off because he was facing the overwhelming genius and style of my Nova campaign!

When treachery isn't at hand, NO ONE, can overcome my Nova Prime in a Battlezone.

Celey, you're welcome.

leonidas

so i got one vote in already. who are the others? i thought i saw bw? and was kris the other? he's gone MIA again though. i guess i could vote if we are desperate. let me know. be nice to get this one in the books.

celeyhyga17

We originally had Kris (mia), One_A_Scott, BW, and deathslash.

Since kris is mia, I guess those 3. I've pm'd all..

Of the 3 scott and deathsl replied back. BW has read my pm.

leonidas

cool. scot has told me his vote is almost done. i got death's. if they are the same, i'll post and save bw the time. cool?

Blair Wind

That works for me If not, I have some free time today to actually give it my full attention. Sorry for the holdup.

leonidas

maybe weigh in anyway then? guess it's better to have all votes in if all are available.

Blair Wind

Originally posted by leonidas
maybe weigh in anyway then? guess it's better to have all votes in if all are available.

158 lbs.

(I'll get it in an hour or so).

leonidas

got 2 votes in. will wait for scot since i know he put in a lot of effort putting his vote together...

leonidas

leonidas

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leonidas

sooooo....congrats to celey for the unanimous victory, and thanks to teh judges for chiming in and giving your thoughts. celey has earned himself a shot at the low herald title, should he wish to exercise said option at a some future time.

****i didn't think i could just copy and paste scot's links, hence the reposting of the links. turns out the copy/paste worked just fine....

i think we can all acknowledge that scot has taking judging to the next level.

One_Angry_Scot

Originally posted by leonidas
sooooo....congrats to celey for the unanimous victory, and thanks to teh judges for chiming in and giving your thoughts. celey has earned himself a shot at the low herald title, should he wish to exercise said option at a some future time.

****i didn't think i could just copy and paste scot's links, hence the reposting of the links. turns out the copy/paste worked just fine....

i think we can all acknowledge that scot has taking judging to the next level.

I was really happy to be considered for it. I may have gone a bit indepth but I will try and not to go so far into it I guess.

leonidas

better too much my friend.

LordofBrooklyn

Originally posted by leonidas
sooooo....congrats to LordofBrooklyn for providing the brilliant template that led to the unanimous victory, and thanks to teh judges for chiming in and giving your thoughts. celey has earned himself a shot at the low herald title, should he wish to exercise said option at a some future time.

You're welcome, Celey!

celeyhyga17

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You're welcome, Celey!
Thanks bro. You really are the true ruler of the House of El. Never let anyone tell you different..

Btw thank you judges for your time. And wow. One_Angry_Scott's ruling was a battlezone unto itself.

leonidas

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
You're welcome, Celey!

i stand suitably chastised.

celeyhyga17

Originally posted by leonidas
i stand suitably chastised.
I can't fraternize with the enemy. That will be you in the near future. Pretty soon I have to plan out our low herald bz. Sorry brotha...