Agreed - to everything you said. I'm disgusted with American politics - today, Thursday May 28. Tomorrow? Who knows.

It's very scary indeed that so many people out there just want a Democrat in the WH at any cost. At this rate Pee Wee Herman could have been the nominee as long as the message of "Hope and Change" was adopted and funded so vigorously by the Soros cabal.

And you can sincerely state that the THREE times the US has waterboarded, has affected your conscience so greatly that you believe the only salve is to try members of the Bush administration for war crimes?

And you truly believe that an enemy combatant, that admitted he personally beheaded an innocent American citizen, sans anethesia - (I'm sure Daniel Pearl suffered much less pain than waterboarding) is of such a delicate nature that the USA inflicted such an agonizing pain via waterboarding, yet miraculously he continues to live to this very day - in no pain whatsoever.

My conscience is very clear. An absolute degenerate murderer is devoid of any physical pain, so waterboarding an animal such as KSM is not even close to torture.

My conscience might start to bother me when factual proof by other than unamed "highly placed sources" indicates the US has used waterboarding more than, oh maybe 10000 times.

I say the next stupid liberal whining about waterboarding gets his head slowly sliced off with a rusted serrated knife - won't be any begging for mercy will there?

Is that so wrong?

Just for everyone's info: Rethug is also a lover of sock puppets. He posted the same comment three times under three different names. Evidently, on his planet they've never heard of "comment moderation."

Well, we have three morons already scaling the cables of the Golden Gate Bridge in protest - wait till you see it on TV - pretty amazing the lengths sdomeone will go to - they have put many lives in danger by this stunt - someone not paying attention to the road below them may end up crashing - one of them might fall off the cable onto the road or water below...Just another Monday morning in SF.

"The good news is that one way or the other, a year from now—Obama or McCain—this humiliating, shameful period in American history, will be at an end"

Oh really? And you think Obama or Hillary's first tasks will be to roll-back executive power?

Well I guess we will just see how soon they get that done.

OTOH - The "torture" debate will never be decided in favor of one side (non-believers) over the other (believers) because as fabulous as we humans are, we cannot predict the future. It is impossible to assume what a prisoner/terrorist is thinking, it is impossible to assume that a certain, more/or less humane technique will work with every terrorist/prisoner every time.

The only solution is to allow EVERY technique imaginable to break a person's will. Start at the least inhumane and end at the most hideously inhumane.If a terrorist chooses that lifestyle, and knows the consequences of capture, they have agreed by proxy to be tortured. There is not, and should never be - empathy for terrorists. They show no empathy for American or coalition soldiers. It does not make America a more shameful country if we choose action over empathy. That is a myth borne by pacifistic surrendercrats that sucked down too much LSD in the 60's in an effort to tune in, and essentially surrendered any resemblence of cognitive thinking.

I daresay reading and deciphering a memo 5 years later, without having been a party to, or in any of the meetings that led up to the drafting of said memo is a great topic for discussion, but nothing more. We weren't there, and we don't know.