I've always done what I could over the years, with what I've got, to help warn our beloved peoples about the German threat to world peace.

Whether by ads or articles or letters to the Editor of newspapers and magazines, since every little bit helps with God's blessing upon it, I do my best to warn the world.

While doing what I can to help warn the world, I've always encouraged the Sabbath-keeping Church of God to do more, to go public and step away from behind the podium (preaching to the choir), to get the Word out and let our God-given message become a household word, known and debated and discussed everywhere. Our God-given message must reach those high and low, rich and poor, regardless of race or religion or we will have failed our God-given mission.

The Greater Toledo, Ohio area has received the lion's share of my efforts, since that's where I'm from, although I've also reached out to Judea, Jerusalem, New York and elsewhere.

As I've been told on occasion You've got to pick your battles, and I am seeing that trying to reason with Carl/David is a lost cause. Questions are answered with question, and some with mindless, disconnected drivel.

Madjack, BrianVero, historymike and chris: while this board of for sharing ideas and debate, here is one guy - Carl/david that is so closed minded that attempting to ask questions or enter an intelligent, informative debate is about as productive as tits on a bull.

David/carl apparently thrives on flaming - lives to anger others, and why would any of the rest of us intelligent, educated individuals want to go along with his mindless drivel is beyond me.

Let's not tell Carl/David that we're ending our battles with his nonsense. Let's just tell him we've had an 'epiphany' and we agree 100% with the crap he's putting out there and be done with him.

I for one am not going to debate this fool anymore, nor am I going to read any of his posts! I wash my hands of his crap.

carl-david ben something: Hey, you're right, dude-wad! After a night of thinking, I'm in complete agreement with you! Damn them anit-white suckers! Send all those types back to their homeland but sink the boat in the middle of the ocean!

I wish I could join your forces David Ben Carl, but my employer has transferred me to the tiny Aleutian Island of Gofugyerself, and it apparently has no internet service, so I'll be unable to use my computer for the next several millennia. Good luck to ya boy!

not launch an attack on the US. I also can't follow your proof or your case, only a bunch of disjointed sources tossed together to make it appear credible, but that is the benefit of the Internet, you can find anything you want. And you can run an ad in the Auto Trader to get the words out on the street. America is great :)

There are definite political and religious reasons to believe Germany would betray US. The ample sources I cite are not "disjointed" but are rather consistent in revealing why I believe the things I do, having a strong politico-religious basis to do so, and are most credible, even if incredulous to skeptics who vainly imagine the United States is invincible.

Consider Luigi Barzini's reference to “The mutable Germans” in The Europeans where he questions: “Which is the shape of the German Proteus this morning? Which will be its shape tomorrow? Johannes Gross thinks his countrymen wear a mask. 'But the day may come when someone lifts the mask,” he wrote. “The face that appears may be less full-cheeked and rosy than today's... So long as we wear the mask, we remain hidden and continue to conceal the situation from ourselves.'”

Ron Fraser (Is a World Dictator About to Appear?) exposes: “Although Germany is the prime mover in all these [European unification] efforts, in order to dispel any idea that the country may have expansionist intentions, these initiatives have generally been made under the cloak of being for the common good of the European Union.”

This sentiment concurs with Bismarck, who wrote in his diary (Nov. 1876): “I have always heard politicians use the word “Europe” when they were making requests to other powers which they did not dare formulate in the name of their own country.”

What is Germany hiding?] Nuclear weapons? Who would be so foolish to imagine Germany without their own nuclear weapons when they were ahead of us in developing them? Certainly the grand design Franz Josef Strauss had in mind (with much at his disposal as Federal Minister of Nuclear Energy, and later Defense Minister) demanded independence from the United States. And Germany's Dolphin submarines delivered to Israel, equipped to handle nuclear weapons, underscore German military capabilities, yet the United States continues to blindly promote their control of the European continent, oblivious to The Dangers in US-German European Policy.

How many German plants in America are serving the interests of Germany's budding Fourth Reich? It's not only German factories and German businesses in America proving “that basic thoroughness of the orderly German” (Johannes Gross), since the secret Nazis had predetermined such a strategy, but bought and paid for American prostitutes in diverse and perverse positions of power aid and abet them! They expose our country to danger and will leave us infected as a nuclear wasteland!

Ah, the return of noted site-pimper David Ben-Ariel, who wants to spread his bizarre vision of a racist Christian Zionism while pimping his unreadable book. Ben-Ariel's thesis seems to be that the Vatican and some heretofore overlooked Nazi cabal are conspiring to take over the world. Oh, and he believes the Lost Tribes of Israel are actually northern Europeans, who are the Chosen Race, unlike all those dangerous Africans, Mexicans, and anyone darker than Arnold Schwarzenegger.

BTW, David: does this drivel make sense to you on the days when you swallow your Lithium pills, or just when the voices in your head are barking?

So you're not aware that the precious truths contained within Beyond Babylon: Europe's Rise and Fall are available to read online for FREE? That Beyond Babylon is priceless - at least to those who, unlike swine, appreciate the plain truth of the Bible and history.

I don't enjoy the woeful/willful ignorance I behold. I find it appalling and indicative of our proud and stubborn people, sheeple, who will soon be slaughtered. It grieves me to see such inexcusable attitudes that condemns our country to national captivity.

As a Bible-believer, a Christian-Zionist (one who believes the Prophets foretold the restoration of Jews first of all Twelve Tribes of Israel to the Promised Land of Israel before the end of this world as we know it), I oppose such a hateful misrepresentation of Zionism.

...for Germany to attack the U.S.? After all, if the German government is suicidal what better way is there to end it all than to attack the nation with the largest nuclear arsenal in the world? And using nuclear weapons will clear a lot of lebensraum (although who will be able to live there raises all kinds of comic-book possibilities). .

After WWII ended in 1945, victorious Russian and American intelligence teams began a treasure hunt throughout occupied Germany for military and scientific booty. They were looking for things like new rocket and aircraft designs, medicines, and electronics. But they were also hunting down the most precious "spoils" of all: the scientists whose work had nearly won the war for Germany. The engineers and intelligence officers of the Nazi War Machine...

If the Germans actually possessed nuclear weapons, I might be inclined to worry about them, though not as much as I do about rogue nuclear powers Israel, Pakistan, India, North Korea, and perhaps some day Iran. However, they have no nukes, unless you count US nukes on bases in Germany, and the Germans have even been trying to get US nukes removed.

Of course, for conspiracy kooks like David Ben-Ariel, facts are not a problem, and hey - why let factual information get in the way of a wacky theory?

At least you're finally expressing some sense in recognizing that a nuclear Germany is cause for concern. Now if you would wake up to the fact that Germany is nuclear and will betray US... Sadly, many will die in their sleep, refusing to believe what they don't want to even consider, as it truly is that horrible and more but shielding one's eyes from this harsh reality will not make it go away, but makes us more vulnerable and exposed to danger and leaves us unprepared and an easy target.

And shouldn't we be more concerned about rogue nuclear states like Israel, Pakistan, and India - who actually possess nuclear weapons - than a country like Germany, which disavows the use of nuclear weapons?

BTW - quoting nineteenth century Prussian PM Otto von Bismarck as a means of making a 21st century case about possible German nuclear ambitions is like blaming Ulysses S. Grant for our current financial crisis, unless you are trying to show some sort of Sonderweg parallels.

Personally, I don't buy into arguments like "Germans are inherently warmongers" any more than I do "Africans are inferior," "Anglo-Saxons are the Chosen Race," or any other form of ethnic determinism. There are geniuses and dolts in every ethnic group, and sociopathic killers can be found in every ethnicity.

If the Israelis are such a "rogue nuclear state," why do they continue to tolerate the Nazi Muslim capitals that routinely threaten them? With the push of a button, those threats could quickly become history, so much dust in the Middle East.

Thankfully, in God's good time, all vain opposition against the British-Israelites and Jews will literally melt away.

LimeDrops! I knew it, I just knew it. LD is back under a different nom de guerre.

Ok, so if the rest of you guys are so smart explain why Mexico is in the early stages of planning to attack Canada. You think those troop movements in Acapulco are just for show? Go on, explain that one if you can.

tricked us already ! David, I looked at your website hoping to see your photo there, so that if I see you at the Save a lot store , I could tell you a bible verse I know just to show off that i know one too.

Germany started WWI, Germany started WWII, and Germany will ignite WWIII.

My website doesn't have my photo, but my blogs do and even include many pictures from the kibbutzim where I studied Hebrew and served as a volunteer.

If you think any biblical references I offer is to "show off," you really need to think again. There will always be somebody who knows less and somebody who knows more (so what?), but the important thing is to continue to live and learn, eh?

David Ben-Ariel has been around for a while, though I'm not sure how long he has called Toledo his home. He lived in Bowling Green for years before changing his name from David Hoover. I recall reading that he lived in Israel for some time. He came into my radar in 2005 when he penned some strange racist ramblings about the supposed inferiority of African Americans, using the North Toledo riot as "evidence" of the racial superiority of whites (never mind that blacks, whites, Hispanics, and probably a few Asians were in the mob that day).

His combination of millennialist religion and racist politics is hard to characterize; he views the Jews returning to Israel as fulfillment of revealed prophecy, and therefore holds them in some higher esteem than most racialists, but he also views them as doomed unless they convert.

His writings frequently blast those of darker skin colors than his, being typical of racists who tie racial inferiority to certain passages in the Bible, like when Ham saw his father Noah drunk and naked (Genesis 9:20-27).

He was affiliated with the Philadelphia Church of God sect, though he appears to have had some falling out with PCOG founder Gerald Flurry, and he seems to spend a great deal of time in cyber-wars with Flurry and his followers.

Not sure what he actualy does when he's not in full-out spam mode - the Intarwebs are filled with Net drama featuring Ben-Ariel and his virtual enemies.

All in all - a very strange dude who seems to do little beyond trying to promote his book and pimping his websites.

It's amazing how some who set themselves up as "experts on David Ben-Ariel" love to indulge in disinformation. Granted, a few are just careless and confused about their "facts" but others are clearly obsessed (and possibly dangerous) like this disturbed person who has started an internet campaign against me: Steps to Ban "David Ben Ariel"

I was born in Bowling Green, Ohio, and donated a copy of Beyond Babylon to the Bowling Green library, but I have never lived there. BG, to their credit, does look like a rather nice place to live.

Facts are racist? I'm a realist. That's why I wrote, in Black Mark on Toledo that you referenced, "Toledo blacks gave Bill White's best sermon." That's the plain truth. Why deny it? Afraid of being called "racist"? (And where in the world did you get any mention of "racial superiority" in that article? You didn't, as any objective reader could easily conclude).

Is that racist? If it's racist, is it wrong? If it's wrong, says who and why? Didn't president-elect Obama faithfully attend an Afro-centric church that believes the same, as well as Louis Farrakhan and many other black brothers? (Even though they apparently don't like to practice what they preach).

That comment was based upon New Orlean Mayor Nagin's comment about his city being a "Chocolate City." Was that racist too? Oh my! Where's your outcry? Do you exercise double standards? Are you racist against whites to prove how you're not racist to non-whites?

Only in our White Israelite nations. Haven't they proved it's necessary? Are you in denial of this plain truth? It's unnatural for blacks to rule in White Israelite inheritances, whether it's South Africa (going to hell in a handbasket) or raped Rhodesia now Zimbabwe ruins or Obama, that fraud and foreigner, about to occupy the White House. Think about it and be honest with yourself.

Furthermore, have you visited South Africa or "Zimbabwe?" I was blessed to visit South Africa and "Zimbabwe" before the ANC rot begin to set in and the famine struck occupied Rhodesia (due to racist theft of farms from the whites who worked them and produced food), spending three of my seven weeks in Africa with colored friends in Cape Town.

I used the word "rogue" to describe Israel's recalcitrance about its nuclear program. The Israelis refused to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT) and steadfastly refuse to allow UN inspectors to examine suspected nuke facilities.

You know, the kind of stuff that gets other countries invaded or sanctioned. Somehow the Israelis do not have to follow the same rules as the Iraqis, the Iranians, the North Koreans, or other "evil" regimes.

Also: ask the Palestinians just how "democratic" the state of Israel is.

BTW, sir: the world is a lot more complex than "liberals" vs. "conservatives." I ascribe to neither label, though the concept of independent-minded thinkers might be beyond your ability to grasp.

Oh, and he believes the Lost Tribes of Israel are actually northern Europeans, who are the Chosen Race, unlike all those dangerous Africans, Mexicans, and anyone darker than Arnold Schwarzenegger.

So, Mike, are you outraged that the Tribe of Judah (the Jews) believe they are God's Chosen people? Do you understand the DIFFERENCE between their view of themselves as the "Chosen People" vs Germany's concept of the "Master Race"?

Do my posts or articles even hint that I need anybody to take up my banner? I don't play such games, and the fact you would even entertain such a foolish thought doesn't speak well of you and your reading comprehension or character judgment.

In the real world Mike, there are folks who recognize the plain truth of the Bible and history that I dare to share and a few will even speak up, but most have been cowed by the PC fascists to keep quiet. All the more reason I have to pick up the slack. ;-)

Clearly some fail to grasp the big difference in attitude and agenda between Jews, Israelites and those with a Nazi mentality. As Beyond Babylon mentions, the "Master Race" didn't want any competition from the Chosen People and sought to eliminate them.

The spirits that inspired the Nazi movement know the British Israelites and Jews are destined to rule the world, which is why the Assyrian Germans are insanely jealous and murderously hateful and will seek to take us out, like Herod with all the children two years old and under.

In response to your earlier coment impugning my supposed reputation as an "expert" on all matters DB-A:

I answered Pete's question off the top of my head, and did not claim to be any sort of "expert." In fact, I hadn't thought of your writings for at least a year until you showed up on this site in full-blown spam mode. However, here is an excerpt you wrote about yourself that implies you spent a fair amount of time in Bowling Green:

I was born David A. Hoover on January 10, 1960 in Bowling Green, Ohio. However, I legally changed my name to David Ben-Ariel (with the help of my Jewish lawyer) during the Spring of 1989. It cost me $300.00. It also required that I take out a small ad in a newspaper announcing my intentions 30 days beforehand. I placed my ad in the Bowling Green Sentinel.

While there are few things in this world that interest me less than the residency history of David Ben-Ariel, I think that a reasonable person might conclude from the above that you spent at least some time in Bowling Green, if only to climb from the womb, petition for a name change, and place an ad in the Bowling Green Sentinel.

However, in the interest of accuracy, I concede that you may indeed have spent only minutes of your life there.

Your assumptions about me were harmless, as far as living in Bowling Green. I mean those who really hate me accuse me of far worse things (not that living in BG is bad!) and are way off base. You were close, but no cigar.

I could care less what any sect or cult believes about themselves, so long as they keep to their own little warped world. However, when people begin to insist that their status as a Chosen People means that other ethnic groups should be deported, enslaved, or exterminated, then yes: I have a problem with their claims.

As far as Jews and their "chosen" status: when the Jews worship Yahweh and hold fast to their beliefs in this special position in the eyes of their God, more power to them. However, when Zionist Jews declared that their "chosen" status means that Palestinians should get screwed out of land, treated like second-class citizens, and be subjected to state-sponsored terrorism, then I take issue.

And before you jump in and attack me for not blaming the Palestinians for regional violence, understand that I am fully aware of the atrocities against innocent Israelis committed by the likes of the PLO, Hamas, and Hezbollah. Radicals on both sides have engaged in reprehensible political violence.

Personally, I don't buy into arguments like "Germans are inherently warmongers" any more than I do "Africans are inferior," "Anglo-Saxons are the Chosen Race," or any other form of ethnic determinism.

Could you please enlighten me as to the contributions to the world made by ANY African nation? Maybe the computer I'm using? Maybe the toilet I just flushed? Maybe the abundance of agricultural produce? My car? Medicine? The airplane?

Please Mike, help a brother out! What HAVE African nations contributed to the world??

Carl, I'll preface this by saying that you are not only ignorant, but you are also a racist. You ask what African nations have contributed to the world. You should study a little history.

Egypt, whose written civilization goes back to before 3,000 B.C. when your ancestors and mine were living in European hovels scratching out stone implements, had developed a high art of astronomy, geometry, sculpture, painting, medicine, and so forth, all of which was the envy of the "civilized " world at the time.

I can't and won't argue with irrationality. I will leave you with this: the ancient Egyptian language is classified as Semitic only because cunning linguists are not really sure where to put it because it shares important characteristics with the mainstream Semitic tongues, but also has characteristics of Berber and other non-Semitic languages.

But don't confuse linguistic provenance with genetic provenance. Whatever language stem we classify Egyptian language into, the fact that they were an genetic intermixture of black, Near Eastern, and north-west African is pretty clear from their paintings and sculptures. Or don't you believe your eyes?

They don't look like white men, do they? I won't continue debating you. You are a True Believer and I make it a policy to avoid nut cases.

the greatest remark was that "As I mentioned earlier, Africa's contribution to Western Civilization cannot be overemphasized." yet it still doesn't say WHAT contributions they've made.

I think ANY attempt to offer ANY contribution is overemphasizing. Sorry if my opinion offends, but if you can't show me the error in my thinking without resorting to name-calling, then you haven't changed any minds.

He has stated some facts (a courageous thing to do among PC fascists) and asked some legitimate questions and gets attacked. It's clear to me who is being narrow-minded. If only Carl would get in line, and stop exercising independent thought, nobody would be agitated and everybody would stagnate. Lovely swamp...

Even if it were true, where did they go wrong? How did they sink so low? How did the Dark Continent fail to continue to shine? Are facts racist? Does the plain truth make you uncomfortable?

Speaking of racists, and practices of discrimination, did you know the Sphinx Organization is racistand discriminates against children of white color? The Blade (surprise, surprise) failed to share the information I provided them after they published an article on that hateful group supported by your tax-dollars (and yet continues to discriminate!).

Yes, Blacks/Negroes/Coloreds (take your pick) in White Israelite America have been blessed to create some things, partaking of our blessings, but haven't you noticed they fail to accomplish anything in Africa? In Black-ruled places? Why is that?

If you're a good reader Helen, and not afraid to consider facts, read what this Black Uganda wrote and wonder:

http://www.answers.com/helen
n. Greek Mythology.
The daughter of Zeus and Leda and wife of Menelaus, considered to be the most beautiful woman in the world. Her abduction by Paris caused the Trojan War.

I enjoyed visiting Greece several times, but the Greeks are too riotous now and considering it's Hanukkah and the Hellenists were under their evil influence... beauty is only skin deep.
Not worth going to war over is it?
Carl would have been too serious of a name for you. ;-)

Well, David, I happen to be a "good reader;" it's part of my business to be a critical and analytical reader.

So, I followed the link to your blog, where you had pasted the piece "Why Black People Have Remained Backward." I found that it is actually titled "Uganda: Why Black People Have Remained Backward."

I read the piece by Elias Birayabarema (sp?), which you present as evidence, "facts," that Africa contributes nothing to the world. First of all, the piece is printed out of context in your blog, but I quickly discerned that this is an opinion piece responding to some other writing that appeared in the Kampala Monitor sometime in early 2007. That is hardly factual. What is does tell me is that at least one Ugandan man feels that his nation should be accomplishing more and is restricted from becoming all it can be for a number of reasons. I know a lot of Americans that feel that way, too. It does not logically follow that because one American feels that their nation is not accomplishing what it could, that America is a failure.

Believe what you want to believe. With the magic of the Internet, you can draw on limitless texts (and pull pieces of texts, some facts, others fictions) to support your theories.

Science has already established that the origins of humankind were born out of Africa. (Here is a credible source: NOT a blog, or an opinion piece, but Scientific American: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=the-migration-history-of-humans)
"...in 1987, Rebecca L. Cann and Allan C. Wilson of the University of California, Berkeley, published a groundbreaking paper based on analyzing the DNA of mitochondria, the cell’s energy-producing organelles, which are passed down through the maternal line. They reported that humans from different populations all descended from a single female in Africa who lived about 200,000 years ago—a finding that immediately made headlines trumpeting the discovery of the “Mitochondrial Eve.”

So, the FACTS show that YOU and I both sprung from the loins of Africa!

I followed the link to your blog, where you had pasted the piece "Why Black People Have Remained Backward." I found that it is actually titled "Uganda: Why Black People Have Remained Backward."

Is that supposed to be earth-shaking or what? It's titled that at my site, by my choice, since I chose to call it that title since it was from an Ugandan newspaper. So what? You're missing the point. Purposely? Diversionary tactics?

I read the piece by Elias Birayabarema (sp?), which you present as evidence, "facts," that Africa contributes nothing to the world.

If you were so analytical in your thinking, you would understand the article from the Black African raises legitimate questions about why Black people have remained backwards. If you're honest, consider them. What else explains the miserable failure of Black Africa to contribute anything to current world civilization? They appear to be the most degenerate of our human family, contributing the least and demanding the most!

Concerning your theory of our origin in Africa, even if it were true - so what? That begs the question: Does one have to leave Africa to become civilized and a productive member of the world society? Instead, Black Africa continues to be a Black Hole (that the White countries continue to dump money into). Why remain in denial?

Hmm..
Submitted by HelenWheales on Mon, 2008-12-22 15:56.
Have any potato chips ? Eat Peanut Butter ? Have a blood transfusion? Stop at a Traffic light?

All were invented by African Americans. There are plenty of others, but I won't continue because I can tell you aren't a good listener.

(THIS from someone who BELIEVES I axed what African-Americans have INVENTED (I DID NOT!)

Isn't Carl an old German name? I'm certain it is.

I DIDN'T ask what Africans have invented in America, I asked what have African NATIONS contributed to the advancement of civilization. IF your weren't all so caught up with your damn liberal guilt, you understand I'm talking about AMERICAN/Western European CULTURE vs the primitive culture of Africa.

The PLAIN TRUTH is that Africans are BLESSED in this nation of Joseph and share in Joseph's prosperity to the degree that they submit to our AMERICAN culture and abandon their backward African culture

Actually, "Carl" is British (which I be). Karl is German and they have different meanings.

could care less what any sect or cult believes about themselves, so long as they keep to their own little warped world. However, when people begin to insist that their status as a Chosen People means that other ethnic groups should be deported, enslaved, or exterminated, then yes: I have a problem with their claims.

I've noticed that you don't rant and rave that the Japaneese would NEVER consider you as a white European, JAPANEESE, simply because you're not RACIALLY Japaneese. That's true of almost EVERY culture in the world EXCEPT the descendants of Jacob (Israel). You see, Mike, Satan HATES Israel and the PROMISES God is fulfilling in the people of ISRAEL. It is his (Satan's) mission to thwart God's work thru the nationS of Israel (America, Britain, Israel, and the countries of NW Europe).

Here's the problem. Someone posts an HONEST (politically incorrect) question, and when your feeble attempts to answer it fail (because it's based in political correctness), you resort to name calling. Cries of "RACIST!" are surely the last refuge of scoundrels.

If I'm in error, simply ANSWER THE QUESTION. If you're unable, maybe YOU should be bold enough to rethink your position.

(Knowing the above post isn't directed at me....) I too am looking for the answer to a post you made: You honestly don't know of ANYTHING that the African continent contributes to the rest of the world?

It very well could have been, but I was re-phrasing a question you put to Mike on Sun, 2008-12-21 at 19:55hrs. It appears in part here: "Carl" here Mike, with another question:

Could you please enlighten me as to the contributions to the world made by ANY African nation? Maybe the computer I'm using? Maybe the toilet I just flushed? Maybe the abundance of agricultural produce? My car? Medicine? The airplane?
Please Mike, help a brother out! What HAVE African nations contributed to the world??

What I was doing was attempting to verify that you knew of nothing - no product, no goods, no exports - that come out of the continent of Africa. Answering my question - or really your question - with a question would indicate you're either not aware of what is exported out of Africa or you hope that no one else knows, thereby supporting your stand that Africa is 'useless. If that is the case, then that makes your 'theory' moot - useless, as it were.

Would I be correct in assuming that if I told you of the products that do come of Africa, you would somehow refute them and say they were of no 'real' use to mankind?

David/Carl - or whatever identity you use - Your point - based on your question is attempting to support your position that Africa contributes nothing to the world, thereby negating Africa as 'useful'. Am I correct in this interpretation?

historymike/GraphicsGuy (or whatever identity you're using at the moment

What I was doing was attempting to verify that you knew of nothing - no product, no goods, no exports - that come out of the continent of Africa. Answering my question - or really your question - with a question would indicate you're either not aware of what is exported out of Africa or you hope that no one else knows, thereby supporting your stand that Africa is 'useless. If that is the case, then that makes your 'theory' moot - useless, as it were.

Would I be correct in assuming that if I told you of the products that do come of Africa, you would somehow refute them and say they were of no 'real' use to mankind?

I DIDN'T aske what African nations EXPORT to the world. ANY European nation (or America) can go to Africa, set up shop and produce things to provide low wage jobs for the Africans. And they certainly do have great national resources to EXPORT "stuff" to to rest of the world (with the help of WESTERN work ethic).

But what I asked (that no one dares answer) is what CONTRIBUTIONS have the nations of Africa made to the rest of the world?? (for the 30th time)

Could you please enlighten me as to the contributions to the world made by ANY African nation? Maybe the computer I'm using? Maybe the toilet I just flushed? Maybe the abundance of agricultural produce? My car? Medicine? The airplane?

How about spices?

More important, how about diamonds? Without diamonds, much of what we enjoy, live in, drive, drive on, and yes, even the toilet you flush would not be possible without diamonds! (Used in cutting and drilling)

Now, while it's possible you didn't know about the vast quantities of spices that come from Africa, I'm SURE you knew about diamonds! You know - the Kimberley Mine? Much cocoa comes from Africa also. Coffee. Fruits & vegtables....so your question about "the abundance of agricultural produce" would be a "Yes"

You CAN'T be this stupid GraphicsGuy/historymike (or whatever identity you're using at the moment)!

ONCE AGAIN, I'm NOT axing what RESOURCES they export. Neither am I axing what inventions Africans have come up with while living in the BLESSED AMERICAN culture (though this is CLOSER to what I am axing.

I am axing what INVENTIONS, or great IDEAS have come from the NATIONS of Africa.

GG: This is David, apparently Carl is another great thinker and honest contributor. The world needs more people like him!

I have honestly questioned what Black Africa has contributed to world civilization and you've still failed to answer it, your response is irrelevant. You don't even get to appear on Final Jeopardy now.

Regardless, the German-Jesuit EU will soon seize Africa, as well as the spoiled British-Israelite countries, and make slaves of many without discriminating against color or creed.

Were you aware that Germany is making serious inroads in South America and in Africa?

When the German-Jesuit EU nukes our major cities, they won't care if they're cleaning out the ghetto or taking down penthouses; whether they strike rich or poor, black or white, gay or straight.. We're all equal in being sinners in need of repentance and fast, or we'll suffer serious consequences (Dan. 9:11).

Submitted by David Ben-Ariel on Mon, 2008-12-22 20:29.
1. David Ben-Ariel calls for racial segregation and for blacks to return to Africa

Why just the blacks? There are so many other 'races' in this country - in the US of A - why shouldn't the Asians, Mexicans, French, English, Cubans, Vietnamese, etc. go back to their 'homeland'?

If all who 'don't belong here' go back, then the only people that would be left would be the Native Americans - the original people of 'Turtle Island'. (Now, 1/3 of me is all for that, being of Tsa La Gi heritage - but that'd mean that my Scotish and Irish sides have to return too!)

If 'racial purity' is what the Great Spirit has called for, then ALL must return to the Motherland.

But why just the blacks?

Might I add here - speaking as a 'racist' as it were - look at what the whites have done to the indigenous peoples of Turtle Island! Look at the deaths-the exterminations - the attempted genocides caused by the white man upon other humans in other areas of the world - areas that were occupied by 'non-whites'. And what the white man continues to do to the Native.

But I digress - why not 'TRUE' racial segregation? Where does it say in your Bible that it's only the blacks that need to be segregated?

"Think about it: We went into slavery pagans; we came out Christians. We went into slavery pieces of property; we came out American citizens. We went into slavery with chains clanking about our wrists; we came out with the American ballot in our hands... Notwithstanding the cruelty and moral wrong of slavery, we are in a stronger and more hopeful condition, materially, intellectually, morally, and religiously, than is true of an equal number of black people in any other portion of the globe." – from Up From Slavery by Booker T. Washington

The leading evolutionary theory is that the human race came from common origins in the African continent. So that's probably a pretty big contribution, at least in anthrocentric terms. I mean, without us to invent stuff and then write about it, how would this posting on this blog exist?

The Moors (originally from Northern Africa) kept alive arts, sciences, philosophy, etc. during the Dark Ages, preserving and adding to it. Imagine where we would be without this cultivation of hundreds of years of knowledge.

I'm not even sure why the question about what the African Nations have added to the world is even asked? Do you mean how have the nations impacted YOUR life? The world? Do you mean in the last fifty years - that seems pretty short-sighted. Is there an implication that one must contribute gadgets like the Flobee to be counted as worthy or legitimate, that they are not inherently worthy for just being on their own terms?

Between below and what is documented above, we owe a lot of OUR CULTURE to advancements that came out of Africa, from technology to linguistics. The inventions you talk about may never have come to be, or at least come to be by now, without the basis upon which they are built.

Some valid links and points made there, Wombat, but you're trying to show a map to a blind man.

Do you honestly think he's going to accept those facts as the truth and apologize for being wrong? NO! He'll come back with some kind of excuse that makes those items 'unacceptable' - invalid.

Why debate a deaf man? He's sunk his claws into these unreasonable and hateful views, preaching them as 'The Gospel', and there's not a man in the world that can convince his undeveloped mind otherwise. If you have any knowledge of the bible, you might be familiar with the warning of Satan masquerading as an angel of light.

White South Africans are familiar with Seer van Rensburg and some trust in his prophecies that Germany will save them from Black Marxist rule (like we're about to suffer), but I've tried to explain it could be like the Russians "saved" Eastern Europe only to enslave it to their system. The German-dominated Europe could do very many good things with their power, but the prophecies indicate they'll abuse their powers and serve Satan and his Vatican, not the God of Israel that the ethnocentric Bible reveals.

On another column on this blog, David Had Ben Carl 'contributed' (and I use the term loosely) this bit of information: "I've known Carl for years, we both believe the teachings of Herbert W. Armstrong... " but in another column states "apparently Carl is another great thinker and honest contributor.

Apparently. "Apparently Carl is another great thinker..."

Is it my police background that is hearing this as suspect, or does anyone else see something 'hinkey' in saying "I've known Carl for years..." and then saying "Apparently...."?

I'm not convinced David Ben is not Carl Had Ben - a.k.a. 'The Prince of Darkness'

('course, I guess it could also be explained by Dissociative Identity Disorder)

The president usurper, the fraud and foreigner, is doing all he can to destroy the United States, due to his irrational hatred of white people and capitalism, a curse upon our beloved country, and Europe will simply finish what he has started, destroying our body to "save our soul."

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