yeah sure but he held the job for 4 years. Everyone eventually gets fired in the NFL. Picking Geno at 1 (a player that no one has rated as the top prospect) and throwing him to the wolves is a good way to get fired quicker than 4 years.

No it's not...

Drafting a qb gets you 3 years of time to develop him. Reid will have at least 3 years to rebuild this team regardless of whether he took Geno or not.

Success dictates your staying power. Whether they draft Geno or not, if he doesn't win within 3 years he's probably fired. If he does, he can stay a little longer.

Passing on Geno to take Smith does not buy Reid any more time with the organization.

I think it speaks volumes on what they thought of the QB class, Alex Smith will be ok as long as they keep the Oline in tact and continue to add pieces. I said it before I think Jamaal Charles is going to be the key to keeping this offense going regardless of QB.

I think the compensation was a little high, so I expect the Chiefs to try to move the number one overall pick to recoop some of that value. By picking up a second or drafting late in the first they might snatch up EJ Manuel as their developmental QB of the year.

I think it speaks volumes on what they thought of the QB class, Alex Smith will be ok as long as they keep the Oline in tact and continue to add pieces. I said it before I think Jamaal Charles is going to be the key to keeping this offense going regardless of QB.

I think the compensation was a little high, so I expect the Chiefs to try to move the number one overall pick to recoop some of that value. By picking up a second or drafting late in the first they might snatch up EJ Manuel as their developmental QB of the year.

Andy Reid had Brian Westbrook and Shady McCoy, and didn't use either of them as much as he should have.

yeah sure but he held the job for 4 years. Everyone eventually gets fired in the NFL. Picking Geno at 1 (a player that no one has rated as the top prospect) and throwing him to the wolves is a good way to get fired quicker than 4 years.

Matt Cassel held the job for 4 years because of Pioli and Pioli only. Pioli went all in on Matt Cassel. Never once bringing in anyone to challenge him for the spot. And minus 2010 when he had an offensive wizard in Charlie Weis calling plays, Matt Cassel has been average at best. Pioli never brought in competition for him. Cassel was Pioli's boy and Pioli did everything he could to keep him in place. And most here in KC knew Cassel wasn't starting material before we hit the 4 year mark. Unfortunately the Pioli thought otherwise.

This isn't about Geno, bitonti. I certainly haven't mentioned anything about definitively taking Geno #1 overall. For me, this is about how this organization goes about doing business with the QB spot. 1987. Do you have any idea why that is significant? I'll tell you. It was THE last year a QB drafted by the Chiefs won a game. Doesn't that mean something, particulary for a franchise who hasn't had a long term starter at QB in forever and hasn't really even tried to draft and develop their own QB since 1983?

I think it speaks volumes on what they thought of the QB class, Alex Smith will be ok as long as they keep the Oline in tact and continue to add pieces. I said it before I think Jamaal Charles is going to be the key to keeping this offense going regardless of QB.

I think the compensation was a little high, so I expect the Chiefs to try to move the number one overall pick to recoop some of that value. By picking up a second or drafting late in the first they might snatch up EJ Manuel as their developmental QB of the year.

I agree, it is quite obvious now just how weak this QB class is, however trading out of the top spot in a draft where where the 8th pick has similar talent to the 25th pick will be almost impossible. This draft is so deep that teams will be very reluctant to give up picks to move up.

predicting the draft is not about what you or I would do. I posted in this thread with the agenda of getting the first pick in the draft settled so the mock would stabilize and we could move on to Jacksonville. Im sorry to the KC fans who are disappointed. But don't be mad at me, i'm not Andy Reid. im just trying to make a decent mock draft. Smith at 1 never really made sense.

This isn't about Geno, bitonti. I certainly haven't mentioned anything about definitively taking Geno #1 overall. For me, this is about how this organization goes about doing business with the QB spot. 1987. Do you have any idea why that is significant? I'll tell you. It was THE last year a QB drafted by the Chiefs won a game. Doesn't that mean something, particulary for a franchise who hasn't had a long term starter at QB in forever and hasn't really even tried to draft and develop their own QB since 1983?

I see this argument and it's a shame for KC fans there wasn't an Andrew Luck in this draft. Maybe next year fellas.

predicting the draft is not about what you or I would do. I posted in this thread with the agenda of getting the first pick in the draft settled so the mock would stabilize and we could move on to Jacksonville. Im sorry to the KC fans who are disappointed. But don't be mad at me, i'm not Andy Reid. im just trying to make a decent mock draft. Smith at 1 never really made sense.

It's easy now. Branden Albert will not be retained. And you can rest easy that Joeckel will be the pick at 1/1.

I see this argument and it's a shame for KC fans there wasn't an Andrew Luck in this draft. Maybe next year fellas.

The Chiefs will be "better" next year. It's difficult to only win 2 games. So the Chiefs will be "better" next year. The problem is getting the Chiefs to the point where they have a long term starter at the QB position and an annual participant in the playoffs with the chance to move on. Problem is that they'll probably end up with 6-8 wins next year and out of the running for anything good coming out at QB next year. Oh well...the life of a Chiefs fan :(

So you don't think Reid is an upgrade over Crennel??? You don't think Smith is an upgrade over Cassel? I think they have a realistic shot at 8-10 wins.

Reid is definitely an upgrade over Crennel. Smith and upgrade over Cassel....maybe. But if he is it's not by much, IMO. The Chiefs would be wise, IMO, to still try to draft his eventual replacement in April.