another filler IMO! little finger wants Sensa for himself, but I hope she gets some courage.. the whole BRAN thing is annoying I don't want Hordor to be hurt who does that??? BUT the WW baby-thing was on point I always thought they just ATE the babies who knew?

If the past 2 episodes are filler episodes to you then I'm not sure how you made it 4 seasons.

I'm reading the books. It's interesting to read the thoughts of people in certain situations. Like I knew Sansa and Arya did not get along but their relationship was more strained than the series shows. Ned was actually working my nerves a bit. He was a seasoned warrior but so naive. There's a time to be honourable and then there's a time to do what might not be honourable to protect your family.

I just watched last weeks episode. I loved the scenes with Jaime and Lady Brienne. There was so much said with just the eyes...and not just on her part. She would be so good for him...and she looked so dashing and courageous in her armour. I hope she and Pod work out. I really want him to stay in the series.

I did laugh when Lady Olenna was talmbout she had that good good and her sh*t was yankin' for the Gods which is how she got her husband.

I was disappointed there was no Arya in this ep. I'm a little annoyed with Bran's storyline right now, hopefully he will show some strength soon. Oh and the leader of the group of deserters reminds me of the guy that was torturing Theon.

Speaking of... Do you think Theon is broken permanently? Or will he regain some sort of pride?

I feel bad for Theon but then I don't. It made me think tho...in terms of family. Why was it so easy for Theon to turn on the Starks? In his position...would u choose blood or the people who raised u? Especially since going to war meant that your blood family would have to fight your surrogate family. Iono...I still marinate on it. I also think that Theon's father might have respected him more if he stood up to him. *sighs* He didn't have to take Winterfell like that but he let that dude he was travelling with get in his head. But then Theon was a spoiled boy that thought only with his dicc.

I was disappointed there was no Arya in this ep. I'm a little annoyed with Bran's storyline right now, hopefully he will show some strength soon. Oh and the leader of the group of deserters reminds me of the guy that was torturing Theon.

Speaking of... Do you think Theon is broken permanently? Or will he regain some sort of pride?

I feel bad for Theon but then I don't. It made me think tho...in terms of family. Why was it so easy for Theon to turn on the Starks? In his position...would u choose blood or the people who raised u? Especially since going to war meant that your blood family would have to fight your surrogate family. Iono...I still marinate on it. I also think that Theon's father might have respected him more if he stood up to him. *sighs* He didn't have to take Winterfell like that but he let that dude he was travelling with get in his head. But then Theon was a spoiled boy that thought only with his dicc.

iono.

I don't think it was necessarily easy, just seemed like the most practical thing to do. Theon is a Gregjoy and the heir to the Iron Islands. He was taken away by the Starks and could have been killed by Ned at any time, so even though he was treated fairly, he was still an outsider and would always be an outsider. Siding with the outsiders had dead end potential, where siding with his house at least actually offered the potential of inheriting his fathers kingdom.

I was disappointed there was no Arya in this ep. I'm a little annoyed with Bran's storyline right now, hopefully he will show some strength soon. Oh and the leader of the group of deserters reminds me of the guy that was torturing Theon.

Speaking of... Do you think Theon is broken permanently? Or will he regain some sort of pride?

I feel bad for Theon but then I don't. It made me think tho...in terms of family. Why was it so easy for Theon to turn on the Starks? In his position...would u choose blood or the people who raised u? Especially since going to war meant that your blood family would have to fight your surrogate family. Iono...I still marinate on it. I also think that Theon's father might have respected him more if he stood up to him. *sighs* He didn't have to take Winterfell like that but he let that dude he was travelling with get in his head. But then Theon was a spoiled boy that thought only with his dicc.

iono.

I don't think it was necessarily easy, just seemed like the most practical thing to do. Theon is a Gregjoy and the heir to the Iron Islands. He was taken away by the Starks and could have been killed by Ned at any time, so even though he was treated fairly, he was still an outsider and would always be an outsider. Siding with the outsiders had dead end potential, where siding with his house at least actually offered the potential of inheriting his fathers kingdom.

see...and that's why i'm torn. I thought he was sent to be "fostered" by the Starks because of that war situation. Ned would not have killed Theon especially since he was child at the time. I'm not gone say he raised him like his own son but he did raise him alongside his son's in the sense he was taught to fight, treated well and had access to the same privileges the Stark boys had access to.

Tho I wonder...when was he to go home? Was he allowed to go home and chose not to? He only went back when he did because Robb sent him so ...was he or was he not a prisoner? If he was a threat wouldn't the Starks have kept him separated from their own kids? Just watching the show they treated him like a cousin. I know he had to be fighting within himself. I don't know. He wanted his fathers respect but to fall in line IMO was not the way to get it. He needed to toughen up but that was his own personality. Robb was his age but showed more maturity.

Like Bran asked him...did he hate them the whole time? I could respect his taking of Winterfell if he felt that's what he needed to do but he did that sh*t wrong and killed unnecessarily IMO. He had uncontrollable men but at the same time...those dudes knew he was weak.

His father tho...how he expect Theon to know the ways of Iron and Salt if he was not raised in it? His father and Yara had the right of it that he's immature and ridiculous but come on man. Tho I will say Neds ways did not rub off on him either. I'm torn on Theon like I'm torn on Jaime.

OT: i'm kinda crushing on Yara. she don't look like nothing but I love women warriors.

When Theon's father attempted to make the Iron Islands independent of the 7 Kingdoms, Ned and Stannis put an end to the rebellion and forced Theon's father to surrender Theon (his only male heir).

If Theon's father would have rebelled again, Ned absolutely would have killed Theon, child or adult. That's the entire reason they took him, as a deterrent so that Theon's father wouldn't rebel again. That was one of Theon's internal struggles, knowing that if his father acted up, Ned would behead him as punishment. He was essentially a hostage, even if he was treated fairly.

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