The flu thing isnt really apples and oranges. You cant control or legislate stupidity. stupid people shouldnt be allowed to talk or procreate but they still do, and we the taxpayers end up paying for it one way or the other. I was just talking about the financial load on society. they also have a needle exchange program for druggies. this I dont agree with but it cuts the cost of caring for them because we have universal health care. Maybe in the good ol USA the insurance companies should give them out. they should get proactive about saving money.

i don't like schools or government giving out "free" contraceptives either.
1. they are not "free"
2. schools should be teaching not parenting
3. doing it without parents knowledge or consent abridges the parent's responsibility and roll as THE parent
4. how can we be sure the give isn't doing it to protect their own sexual advances to the receiver?
5. again there's no guarentee that the receiver is going to use it.
6. does the term "under age" mean anything in these situations?
7. yada yada

The flu thing isnt really apples and oranges. You cant control or legislate stupidity. stupid people shouldnt be allowed to talk or procreate but they still do, and we the taxpayers end up paying for it one way or the other. I was just talking about the financial load on society. they also have a needle exchange program for druggies. this I dont agree with but it cuts the cost of caring for them because we have universal health care. Maybe in the good ol USA the insurance companies should give them out. they should get proactive about saving money.

Please explain how it is not apples and oranges.

Flu:

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Typically, influenza is transmitted through the air by coughs or sneezes, creating aerosols containing the virus. Influenza can also be transmitted by direct contact with bird droppings or nasal secretions, or through contact with contaminated surfaces. Airborne aerosols have been thought to cause most infections, although which means of transmission is most important is not absolutely clear.[8] Influenza viruses can be inactivated by sunlight, disinfectants and detergents.[9][10] As the virus can be inactivated by soap, frequent hand washing reduces the risk of infection.

Pregnancy:
Last I checked you couldn't "catch" a pregnancy bug by walking through the mall......

apples.

Oranges.

Now, if you want to go into further detail and say that the government being proactive and handing out free birth control may lower unexpected pregnancies thats fine, I get your point. But it does nothing for personal responsibility and it is not providing a service to prevent something you can't already prevent on your own. It's providing a service you should be responsible enough to try and prevent on your own.

Now, if you want to go into further detail and say that the government being proactive and handing out free birth control may lower unexpected pregnancies thats fine, I get your point. But it does nothing for personal responsibility and it is not providing a service to prevent something you can't already prevent on your own. It's providing a service you should be responsible enough to try and prevent on your own.

If you read the article it will tell you that the doctors push for the type that is implanted and lasts five years witch is far more effective than any other type. Condoms break, women forget to take thier pill, implants are once and done.

If you read the article it will tell you that the doctors push for the type that is implanted and lasts five years witch is far more effective than any other type. Condoms break, women forget to take thier pill, implants are once and done.

Are you suggesting that Steveo's title should be Obama of GL4x4 and Kickstand's should be Romney of Gl4x4?

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Originally Posted by steveo

That for a small amount of money and a simple procedure you can slut it up worry free for 5 years. Why are we fighting? This is a God damn miracle Chadwick. We should be celebrating.

If it's the implant I'm thinking about it can lead to problems with women down the road. Like the inability to have kids. And we 'get' to pay for that blessing as taxpayers. I'm not for that. I'd rather see self control emphasized more. That's one of the reasons our country is in the mess it's in right now. We, as a nation, have no self control. We buy what we want, even if we don't have the money; we do what we want and try and pawn the consequences on other people instead of taking the responsibility. It's gross. This idea just continues this HORRIBLE idea.

I'm not against Birth control, I'm against the idea of not teaching our kids responsibility for thier actions. If we could legally make those who get pregnant get married that would probably have the same effect As the Birth control.

I have to side with steveo. Ideally, people should take responsibility. That isn't how the real world works. If welfare, food stamps, and all that government safety net shit didn't exist, I'd be against paying for free birth control. However, we do. So if I had the choice, I'd rather pay for a relatively inexpensive pill as compared to paying for someone to be on government assistance their whole life.

I have to side with steveo. Ideally, people should take responsibility. That isn't how the real world works. If welfare, food stamps, and all that government safety net shit didn't exist, I'd be against paying for free birth control. However, we do. So if I had the choice, I'd rather pay for a relatively inexpensive pill as compared to paying for someone to be on government assistance their whole life.

I think they should incentivize women not in a position to have kids to get norplants. Give them a 50 dollar walmart giftcard or an ipod to get the norplant.
I hear people who say oh it causes sickness or whatever, but for the 99% that come out ok, it's money well spent. I hate the idea of the government funding but it sure could cut the number of single mothers on welfare.