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enTue, 31 Mar 2015 20:59:47 GMTTue, 31 Mar 2015 20:59:47 GMTRev946-46-1Coffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesThe people over at the Visual Studio Blog have posted an update describing changes to the Visual Studio interface in the soon to come first release candidate.

My reaction:

I really don't get why Microsoft feels the need to change to a monochromatic UI theme in a developer tool just because the next version of Windows has monochromatic tiles and icons. I also don't understand why Microsoft feels compelled to MAKE TEXT ALL CAPS IN AREAS just because the next version of Windows might do that in places.

Visual Studio 2010 or even 2005 icons were sufficient and I didn't hear anyone complain that the run triangle button was green or the terminate square was red. Note the "adjusted the grays within the icons to eliminate any fuzziness or halo effect". Ugh.

Newsflash to Microsoft, software developers don't care about an IDE which matches the newest Windows themes. We want the UI we use at all day to be as clear as possible, neat, organized, to the point, NOT OVERLY LARGE IN PLACES, something which fast feel snappy, is bug free (as possible), and importantly comes with great features.

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Tue, 08 May 2012 17:47:53 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/fab327d91155409c8813a04b01254e15#fab327d91155409c8813a04b01254e15sysrpl46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/sysrpl/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesThe RC looks a lot nicer. I like it.]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/d2f400ad70194093b035a04b0129df6f#d2f400ad70194093b035a04b0129df6f
Tue, 08 May 2012 18:04:31 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/d2f400ad70194093b035a04b0129df6f#d2f400ad70194093b035a04b0129df6fTony Fabian46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/fabian/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio Updateseugh... all caps on the menus. What were they smoking?]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/faa00237c00d4b619cfda04b012a5473#faa00237c00d4b619cfda04b012a5473
Tue, 08 May 2012 18:06:11 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/faa00237c00d4b619cfda04b012a5473#faa00237c00d4b619cfda04b012a5473GoddersUK46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/GoddersUK/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesFor RC the only UI area where we will be using All Caps titling is for top level menu titles.

Blech!

So CAPS are going to be more common with METRO?

What user experience drove this decision?? !None => speak!

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Tue, 08 May 2012 18:13:29 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/43a94a57295648d9883ca04b012c5622#43a94a57295648d9883ca04b012c5622JohnAskew46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/JohnAskew/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesDon't know if this is an improvement over VS 2010, but it's a definite improvement over the beta. More color in the icons, solution explorer and intellisense is always better. I hope the icons are clearer too: I still have no idea what the "comment selected lines" icon is supposed to be in the beta.

It's weird that they made the menu titles all caps but removed the caps everywhere else. Although I have to say, I didn't even notice the caps in the beta anymore after about a day.

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Tue, 08 May 2012 18:19:41 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/0bfa271a06ee44f3997ca04b012e0a3e#0bfa271a06ee44f3997ca04b012e0a3eBas46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Bas/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesA definite improvement for me, I was finding it hard for example to find the .sln file in windows, or differentiating files in the IDE.

All in all, I have nothing to complain about, the CAPITALS ARE A DESIGN DECISION, SO WE WILL HAVE TO STICK WITH THEM, IF I AM HONEST, I QUITE LIKE THEM, AND THINK THEM VITAL TO THE METRO LOOK, AS IT ISN'T TOO MUCH

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Tue, 08 May 2012 18:43:05 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/2d0dbb15628e439cae5aa04b01347718#2d0dbb15628e439cae5aa04b01347718Vesuvius46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/vesuvius/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio Updates@vesuvius: BUT VISUAL STUDIO ISN'T A METRO STYLED APP. MICROSOFT STATING IT IS DOESN'T MAKE IT SO. IF IT WERE METRO STYLED IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THE ZUNE CLIENT. I WONDER WHAT OFFICE 15 IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? SAME ALL CAPS MENU? I HOPE NOT. IN ANY CASE I HOPE MICROSOFT IS MAKE A DESIGN DESCISION ACROSS THE BOARD. THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE DESKTOP APPS IN W8 AS WELL. ALL CAPS IN THE EXPLORER, THE LOSS OF THE RIBBON, ETC.

IF I WERE DISHONEST I'D SAY I LOOK FORWARD TO METRO-STYLING MY CODE TOO; TYPING IN MIXED-CASE IS SO OVERRATED AS PROVEN BY THIS SPECTACULAR POST. IT ALSO AVOIDS UNNECESSARY SPELL CHECKING. GREAT IDEA MICROSOFT!

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Tue, 08 May 2012 18:50:44 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/5d54bb7d80c444c9928fa04b013690cc#5d54bb7d80c444c9928fa04b013690ccDeathByVisualStudio46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/DeathByVisualStudio/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesI don't really understand the ALL CAPS thing, it's not actually that Metro* and I'm not convinced it actually helps in solving the issue that there are so many menus that it looks too busy with normal text. They do seem to have done a much better job with the use of colour though, that's starting to look like a big improvement over VS2010.

*Although to be entirely honest, the VS UI is so far away from what Metro is all about that I can't see why pretending to embrace some aspects of it is necessarily a good thing at all.

It never fails to amaze me how much people hate change. Doesn't matter if the change is necessary, for the better, etc. It's change, and therefore EVIL!

The only change in the RC that I truly think is an improvement is the custom chrome. The rest is minor and subject to personal preference, not for any quantifiable usability reason. Adding colors back? I'm glad they've remained minimalistic. It's pleasing in the toolbar. I think it's distracting in Solution Explorer, to be quite honest. Change to the ALL CAPS headers? Meh. That's a preference thing. I could care less one way or the other. The all caps menu items? I don't prefer it and it seems like a strange decision in conjunction with removing all caps from titles, but it honestly doesn't make any real difference.

The really important stuff was done in the beta and remains and even was enhanced in the RC. Reduction in clutter and an emphasis on the code. A simplification of the interface, which is always a good thing.

When arguments come down to the color of the bike shed, I'm sorry it is just "RESISTANT TO CHANGE." The closest anyone has come to a valid argument in any of these threads is that the monochrome icons make it harder to distinguish between them. Of course there's no data to back that claim up, but it at least sounds like a valid usability concern. Everything else said, over and over again, beating the dead horse into the ground, is nothing more than "I don't like change." It's boring enough to hear this the first time. Did we really need a new thread to say it all again?

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Tue, 08 May 2012 19:26:02 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/f3c5f78a2e844639810ba04b0140432c#f3c5f78a2e844639810ba04b0140432cWilliam Kempf46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/wkempf/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio Updates@wkempf: You must have had an encounter with the Borg. Do those implants itch? I'm just curious. ]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/ae624d9adf6e42319a34a04b01416b08#ae624d9adf6e42319a34a04b01416b08
Tue, 08 May 2012 19:30:14 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/ae624d9adf6e42319a34a04b01416b08#ae624d9adf6e42319a34a04b01416b08DeathByVisualStudio46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/DeathByVisualStudio/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesI LIKE IT!!

THAT'S JUST AS BAS AS "PEOPLE THAT DON'T LIKE MY IDEA MUST BE RESISTANT TO CHANGE."

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Tue, 08 May 2012 20:07:40 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/b48d85a8cf2944a6a90ea04b014bb217#b48d85a8cf2944a6a90ea04b014bb217Soe Tun46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/stun/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesI bet the only reason they put the all caps in menus is so people would have something obvious to complain about that overshadows any other complaints they might otherwise have, and which they can trivially revert for RTM. I've heard of this technique used by designers to manage their bosses/clients' need to feel like they're putting their stamp on the project, they will deliberately put something obvious in that they know their boss won't like so that when he comes over to do his obligatory bikeshedding it won't be anything else the designer cares about.

Personally I thought the way caps were used in beta worked just fine, whereas I don't like them in the menu bar at all, go figure. Maybe they're trying to be semi-consistent with Office 15?

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Tue, 08 May 2012 20:27:18 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/84341bacf09149dd99fea04b015116dd#84341bacf09149dd99fea04b015116ddcontextfree`46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/contextfree`/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio Updates"MAKE TEXT ALL CAPS IN AREAS just because the next version of Windows might do that in places."

Where does Windows 8 use text in all caps? AFAICT Zune and Windows Phone may use all-lowercase and all-caps in places, but Windows 8 uses sentence case (normal first-letter capitalization) everywhere.

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Tue, 08 May 2012 20:30:06 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/ec25e2b17e524663a971a04b0151db8d#ec25e2b17e524663a971a04b0151db8dcontextfree`46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/contextfree`/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesThe all-caps menus look a little strange, but I can see why they did it given that they made the color of the window title bar identical to the window frame. It would be difficult to tell what are menus otherwise. However, in making the title bar blend in with the window frame to give this pseduo-chromeless look, they actually REDUCED the surface area of the window's client area. WTF?]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/75cd4e7b0aa04d468d01a04b0154d4a1#75cd4e7b0aa04d468d01a04b0154d4a1
Tue, 08 May 2012 20:40:55 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/75cd4e7b0aa04d468d01a04b0154d4a1#75cd4e7b0aa04d468d01a04b0154d4a1cbae46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/cbae/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio Updates

The all-caps menus look a little strange, but I can see why they did it given that they made the color of the window title bar identical to the window frame. It would be difficult to tell what are menus otherwise. However, in making the title bar blend in with the window frame to give this pseduo-chromeless look, they actually REDUCED the surface area of the window's client area. WTF?

I'm not sure they have, although at first glance it does appear that the menu now takes more space. If you look at the actual space available for code in the 2010/Beta/RC side-by-side comparison image the RC definitely dedicates more vertical space to the code view than the others.

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Tue, 08 May 2012 20:50:50 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/a107ea3885a94080a194a04b01578e2c#a107ea3885a94080a194a04b01578e2cAndyC46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/AndyC/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesWhen all you've got is bamboo and palm fronds you make do. MS wasn't about to rework the VS in true "Metro Style", so instead they slap some funky typography on an arbitrary bit of the existing UI and call it "Metro". Be thankful they didn't ALL CAPS the window content. Personally I liked the ALL CAPS pane titles better. The rest of the changes are a good improvement. That shade of gray is much less dreary.]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/78d0bb86da7041048399a04b015c8278#78d0bb86da7041048399a04b015c8278
Tue, 08 May 2012 21:08:53 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/78d0bb86da7041048399a04b015c8278#78d0bb86da7041048399a04b015c8278DCMonkey46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/DCMonkey/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesIt still feels stupid to have the menu inconsistent with other applications in Windows.

"File" has been capital first (originally with an underline), lower-case after ever since the dawn of time. Putting it all in caps just feels wrong.

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Tue, 08 May 2012 21:37:15 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/9d75ca3fb3b54dceb0c9a04b01644df6#9d75ca3fb3b54dceb0c9a04b01644df6evildictaitor46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/evildictaitor/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesNOT SURE WHAT THE ALL CAPS THING IS. I'LL ASK SOMEBODY IN VS TO GET SOME INSIGHTS NEXT TIME I SEE ONE OF THEM WALKING DOWN THE HALLWAY.C]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/1af99a05c51140ca9beea04b0164fec9#1af99a05c51140ca9beea04b0164fec9
Tue, 08 May 2012 21:39:46 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/1af99a05c51140ca9beea04b0164fec9#1af99a05c51140ca9beea04b0164fec9Charles46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Charles/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesAll-caps menus is probably the only solution once you decide to merge the titlebar thus removing all the separators and chrome that keeps the window title well distinct from the menu bar. All the other common solutions (adding white space, changing font size, style or color) are probably worse in this scenario.

Personal tastes aside (for the record, I think it looks good), I believe it's a terrible idea: localization can expand text significantly and all this capitalization on a very busy menu bar can constitute a serious problem.

NOT SURE WHAT THE ALL CAPS THING IS. I'LL ASK SOMEBODY IN VS TO GET SOME INSIGHTS NEXT TIME I SEE ONE OF THEM WALKING DOWN THE HALLWAY.C

I RELABELLED MY CAPS LOCK KEY AS :::METRO:::

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Tue, 08 May 2012 23:59:46 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/e010c621c9184c329b78a04b018b724d#e010c621c9184c329b78a04b018b724dblowdart46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/blowdart/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesI would like to point out again that the Windows 8 version of Metro does not use all-caps text (or all-lowercase text) anywhere AFAICT.]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/1940e579466348be824fa04c00011afa#1940e579466348be824fa04c00011afa
Wed, 09 May 2012 00:04:01 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/1940e579466348be824fa04c00011afa#1940e579466348be824fa04c00011afacontextfree`46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/contextfree`/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesOH MAYBE WE SHOULD WRITE METRO APPS IN "C# METRO" LANGUAGE WITH ALL CAPS KEYWORDS ? VB CAN ALREADY DO THAT, JUST LIKE QUICKBASIC RIGHT ?]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/24fdd6da0f4e4f7cb8bba04c000a3ba0#24fdd6da0f4e4f7cb8bba04c000a3ba0
Wed, 09 May 2012 00:37:15 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/24fdd6da0f4e4f7cb8bba04c000a3ba0#24fdd6da0f4e4f7cb8bba04c000a3ba0felix946http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/felix9/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesWhat bothers me more is that this is pretty much the same tired old user interface that debuted in 1995, which was 17 years ago.]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/70bf15119f3d41988d27a04c00103d73#70bf15119f3d41988d27a04c00103d73
Wed, 09 May 2012 00:59:07 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/70bf15119f3d41988d27a04c00103d73#70bf15119f3d41988d27a04c00103d73Joe Chung46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/joechung/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesI just thought I'd point out that nowhere in the Metro design guidelines does it ever advocate using all caps for anything:

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Wed, 09 May 2012 02:04:13 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/0bac76c426a843c88815a04c00221e9d#0bac76c426a843c88815a04c00221e9dfelix946http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/felix9/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio Updates@evildictaitor: The phone design guidelines, not the desktop ones, call for all caps titles.]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/60c314822afe49e28134a04c0023cfe4#60c314822afe49e28134a04c0023cfe4
Wed, 09 May 2012 02:10:23 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/60c314822afe49e28134a04c0023cfe4#60c314822afe49e28134a04c0023cfe4Joshua Ross46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/JoshRoss/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio Updatesthat's it. i've had about enough of this nonsense. ]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/4da170826c4242dcb6cea04c003cb741#4da170826c4242dcb6cea04c003cb741
Wed, 09 May 2012 03:41:03 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/4da170826c4242dcb6cea04c003cb741#4da170826c4242dcb6cea04c003cb741cbae46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/cbae/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesI agree with C yu that the caps help distinguish the title bar text from the menu text and also help it look a bit cleaner because the equal height of the letters give it more visual contrast with the rest of the interface.

Taste aside, I'm not sure why people would get so irritated about this as a design choice. You know how many websites use uppercase for top-level menu titles? Just look at Channel 9.

BROWSE FORUMS CODING4FUN EVENTS

onoz Channel 9 is yelling at us

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Wed, 09 May 2012 04:01:50 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/e8aa13bd70584d018fb1a04c00426bf0#e8aa13bd70584d018fb1a04c00426bf0brian.shapiro46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/brian.shapiro/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesIt's definitely an improvement. But, like so many others here, I think the menu titles in all caps is stupid.

I'm also allergic to applications with custom window frames. I hate custom window frames. I rejoiced when Messenger and WMP finally started using normal window frames again. And now Visual Studio of al things is using a custom one? I AM UNHAPPY!

They should use all caps for error messages. My old Roland E-96 keyboard did that (mainly because its low resolution LCD display couldn't really do lower case). It was always funny that when you hit play without a disk in the drive it would yell at you "INSERT SONG DISK AND PRESS PLAY". Always felt like there was an implied "NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, YOU BLITHERING IDIOT!" after it.

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Wed, 09 May 2012 04:40:49 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/572f9f70581740658d5ea04c004d21e5#572f9f70581740658d5ea04c004d21e5Sven Groot46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Sven Groot/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesIF THE VISUAL STUDIO DESIGN TEAM AUCTIONED EVERY COMPLAINT IN THIS THREAD WE WOULD END UP RIGHT BACK WHERE WE STARTED

edit, MAYBE FEATURE CREEP IS UNAVOIDABLE, AND A MENU OPTION TO HAVE NORMAL CAPS IS THE WAY FORWARD FOR THE DISSENTERS

It was always funny that when you hit play without a disk in the drive it would yell at you "INSERT SONG DISK AND PRESS PLAY". Always felt like there was an implied "NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND, YOU BLITHERING IDIOT!" after it.

They probably observed that most people would be wearing headphones in that case; speaking up was the sensible thing to do.

They probably observed that most people would be wearing headphones in that case; speaking up was the sensible thing to do.

I hope you realize it was all caps text; the thing didn't actually yell at you.

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Wed, 09 May 2012 14:19:51 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/ac5b1e0cd95f4969b20aa04c00ec2aec#ac5b1e0cd95f4969b20aa04c00ec2aecSven Groot46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Sven Groot/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio Updates@Sven Groot: I believe in the conservation of smileys. I'll be less parsimonious from now on. ]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/e9ca661481274b18a30ea04c00f1efd4#e9ca661481274b18a30ea04c00f1efd4
Wed, 09 May 2012 14:40:51 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/e9ca661481274b18a30ea04c00f1efd4#e9ca661481274b18a30ea04c00f1efd4Blue Ink46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Blue Ink/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesMan, this thread is already more tiresome than the all caps menus in Visual Studio.]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/73819ca4d88748639ebaa04c00f7c0fd#73819ca4d88748639ebaa04c00f7c0fd
Wed, 09 May 2012 15:02:02 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/73819ca4d88748639ebaa04c00f7c0fd#73819ca4d88748639ebaa04c00f7c0fdBas46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/Bas/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesThe RC is definitely an improvement over the Beta BUT there still isn't enough colour in the icons. You often can't tell what they represent without looking at the tooltip.Whoever decided that monochrome icons were a good idea was wrong. Making them three colours (grey, dark grey and a single highlight colour, on some icons, makes them only a little better.)

ALSO the ALL CAPS menus are very much harder to read. The blog posting made no attempt to justify the ALL CAPS menus. Please can someone on the VS design team tell us the reason - then perhaps we will understand.

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Fri, 18 May 2012 18:42:01 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/b1900dd63528422d9016a05501342c2b#b1900dd63528422d9016a05501342c2bJuan Zamudio46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/JuanZamudio/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio Updates@brian.shapiro: Why would they use an older version?]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/8868bad028b44750ae5da0550145d823#8868bad028b44750ae5da0550145d823
Fri, 18 May 2012 19:46:21 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/8868bad028b44750ae5da0550145d823#8868bad028b44750ae5da0550145d823ZippyV46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/ZippyV/Discussions/RSSCoffeehouse - Visual Studio UpdatesCould the lack of color in the Beta and RC just be a more extreme version of WPF's Sketch Flow skin?]]>http://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/7a6b6eb6dcc941eda340a05a0158d599#7a6b6eb6dcc941eda340a05a0158d599
Wed, 23 May 2012 20:55:30 GMThttp://channel9.msdn.com/Forums/Coffeehouse/Visual-Studio-Updates/7a6b6eb6dcc941eda340a05a0158d599#7a6b6eb6dcc941eda340a05a0158d599Adam Speight46http://channel9.msdn.com/Niners/AdamSpeight2008/Discussions/RSS