IF THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY FOR GOVERNOR NOW LOOKING MORE LIKELY? STATE SENATOR KATHLEEN VINEHOUT ON WHETHER SHE'LL RUN FOR GOVERNOR. GOVERNOR WALKER CALLS FOR A SPECIAL SESSION TO APPROVE A DELAY IN MOVING THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE FROM BADGER CARE TO OBAMACARE. WE'LL HEAR FROM ASSEMBLY SPEAKER ROBIN VOS ON WHETHER ALL REPUBLICANS ARE ON BOARD WITH THE PLAN. PLUS, HOW THE FEDERAL HEALTH INSURANCE UPHEAVAL IS PLAYING OUT IN WASHINGTON -- WISCONSIN RIGHT NOW. [CAPTIONING MADE POSSIBLE BY WISN-TV] CAPTIONED BY THE NATIONAL CAPTIONING INSTITUTE --WWW.NCICAP.ORG-- WE BEGIN TODAY WITH A QUESTION, WILL THERE BE A DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY FOR GOVERNOR IN WISCONSIN NEXT YEAR? CLINICAL INSIDERS THOUGHT IT UNLIKELY. AS STATE SENATOR KATHLEEN VINEHOUT OF ALMOND HAS CONTINUED TO TOUR THE STATE, WISPOLI TICS.COM REPORTERS -- REPORTS THAT SOME DEMOCRATIC OPERATIVES NOW BELIEVE A PRIMARY CHALLENGE IS MORE LIKELY. WE ARE ASKING SENATOR VINEHOUT, WHOSE ON THE SATELLITE FROM OUR MADISON AFFILIATE. IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE PROGRAM. I KNOW YOU SPENT A LOT OF TIME TRAVELING AROUND THE STATE. YOU SAID YOU ARE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL THE FIRST OF THE YEAR TO ANNOUNCE YOUR DECISION. SURELY YOU MUST HAVE A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. ARE YOU GOING TO RUN FOR GOVERNOR? I'M MOVING A LITTLE BIT CLOSER EVERY DAY. I FOUND THE PEOPLE AROUND THE STATE HAVE BEEN VERY POSITIVE ABOUT THE IDEA. PEOPLE ARE REALLY TIRED OF POLITICS AS USUAL, AND THEY WANT THE PEOPLE TO BE INVOLVED IN DEMOCRACY. I HAVE BEEN PLEASANTLY SURPRISED WITH EVERYTHING I'VE FOUND . WHAT WOULD KEEP YOU FROM RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR? PART OF THIS IS PUTTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE AROUND THE STATE. IF I HAD PROBLEMS DOING THAT, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD HAVE TO ADDRESS. IF YOU ARE RUNNING A GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGN, IT'S HIM. -- IMPERATIVE THAT THERE BE AN INFRASTRUCTURE AROUND THE STATE SO THAT WHEN THOSE VOLUNTEERS CALLED AND SAID, I WANT TO HELP, THERE IS SOMEBODY THERE THAT CAN HELP THEM GET STARTED AND BE WITH THEM AND HELP THEM ORGANIZE THEIR COMMUNITY. I'M ASKING PEOPLE IF THEY WANT TO HELP TO SEND ME A NOTE, KATHLEENVINEHOUT.ORG. LET ME KNOW HOW YOU WANT TO HELP, WHERE YOU LIVE, AND WE WILL BE IN TOUCH. BASED ON YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE, ARE YOU PRETTY CONFIDENT YOU COULD PUT TOGETHER AN ORGANIZATION WITH A SUFFICIENT INFRASTRUCTURE? THERE ARE PARTS OF THE STATE I HAVE NOT GOTTEN TO YET HEAR IT -- YET. I DEFINITELY NEED THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS TO CONTINUE MY INTENSIVE SCHEDULE. I CAN SAY THAT WHERE I BEEN SO FAR, PEOPLE ARE READY TO GET TO WORK AND THEY ARE REALLY TIRED OF MONEY IN POLITICS AND POLITICS AS USUAL. THE MELTDOWN IN WASHINGTON CAUSED A CHANGE IN ATTITUDES ABOUT POLITICS. I'VE SEEN A LOT MORE PEOPLE SAY, I'M JUST TIRED OF THE WAY THINGS ARE, AND WE'VE GOT TO GET MONEY OUT OF POLITICS. THE SKEPTICS SAY IN THE RECALL ELECTION IN 2012, YOU RAN IN THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY AND GOT 4% OF THE VOTE. WHAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THIS TIME? WE DID 90 EVENTS IN 90 DAYS. I HAVE DONE 22 EVENTS IN 15 DAYS. THERE IS A YEAR LEFT TOWARDS THE CAMPAIGN. I WAS PLEASED TO HAVE WHAT I CALL A GET-ACQUAINTED CAMPAIGN IN 2012. IT WAS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO GET TO KNOW ME. MANY PEOPLE HAVE SAID, I SUPPORTED TOM BARRETT, BUT I REALLY WANTED TO VOTE FOR YOU, KATHLEEN. PEOPLE WILL SAY, IT'S DIFFERENT -- TIME FOR A DIFFERENT STYLE OF CAMPAIGN. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY WERE CRUSHED BY THE MONEY AND THE BIG SCALE OF CAMPAIGNS TODAY. CAN YOU OVERCOME THAT IF YOU ARE TO RUN? THAT'S A JUDGMENT DECISION I NEED TO MAKE. WE NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO BE ABLE TO START, TO BUILD THOSE RESOURCES LEADING INTO THE PRIMARY. THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT YOU NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY TO GET YOUR MESSAGE OUT. AT THIS TIME , I EMBODY WHAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT APPROACH. WE MAY HAVE SEEN A LOT OF MONEY IN CAMPAIGNS, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO REMEMBER THOSE CAMPAIGNS. CAMPAIGNS THAT PEOPLE DO NOT THINK COULD BE WON. THE STATE RIGHT NOW AND THEN REALLY WANTED A GOVERNMENT OF THE PEOPLE AND BY THE PEOPLE. THAT'S NOT THE BEST GOVERNMENT YOUR MONEY CAN BUY, WHICH IS WHY -- WHAT WERE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW. ON THE ISSUES, ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH WHAT YOU'VE HEARD FROM DEMOCRAT MARY BURKE? A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE ASKING ME SHE HAS NOT BEEN AROUND, WE DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE IS. I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO TO AN EVENT, LISTEN TO HER SPEAK, ASK HER QUESTIONS. THAT'S THE WAY PEOPLE ARE GOING TO FIND OUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HER AND I AND ANY OTHER CANDIDATE. HAVE YOU HEARD ENOUGH, PERSONALLY? YOU OBVIOUSLY FEEL THERE IS A VOICE MISSING IN THE RACE TO EVEN SERIOUSLY CONSIDER IT. I THINK THE CAMPAIGN IS MORE THAN JUST ABOUT JOBS. I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITIES, ABOUT WHAT'S MISSING AND THE OBSTACLES TO CREATING THE KIND OF COMMUNITY THEY WANT TO LIVE IN AND WORK IN. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO OUR LOCAL AND URBAN SCHOOLS, RURAL SCHOOLS. PEOPLE ARE TALKING ABOUT LOCAL CONTROL. THEY HAVE SEEN A STEADY EROSION IN THE STATE WHERE REPUBLICANS AND THE GOVERNOR HAVE PASSED LAWS THAT HAVE TAKEN AWAY LOCAL POWERS. THEY WANT TO MAKE DECISIONS AT THEIR LOCAL TOWN HALL. THEY DON'T WANT MADISON TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS. THESE ARE MORE IMPORTANT ISSUES THAN EITHER REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS HAVE GIVEN THEM CREDIT. GET OUT AND LEARN A LOT. I SAY THAT TO ANYBODY RUNNING FOR OFFICE. YOU ONLY KNOW THROUGH POLLING THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS YOU ASK. AM NOT SURE THOSE POLLS ARE ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW. MIKE TATE WAS ON THIS PROGRAM A FEW WEEKS AGO AND SPOKE VERY HIGHLY OF YOU. HE DEFINITELY STOPPED SHORT OF THE IDEA OF YOU -- -- A FEW BEING A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR. DO YOU FEEL -- OF YOU BEING A CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR. DO YOU FEEL DISSED? THEY ASCRIBED TO A DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY. THE PHILOSOPHY IS THAT THE PRIMARY QUALIFICATION FOR THE CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR AS SOMEONE WHO CAN RAISE TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. I DON'T ASCRIBE TO THAT SAME PHILOSOPHY. GIVE US A FINAL SENSE OF WHERE YOU ARE IN THIS PROCESS. ARE YOU 75% LIKELY TO RUN? I'M COLLECTING DATA POINTS. RIGHT NOW I HAVE A LOT OF THEM. THERE'S A LOT I STILL NEED. THERE'S A LOT OF PARTS OF THE STATE I STILL NEED TO VISIT. MY PLAN IS TO TAKE SOME TIME OVER CHRISTMAS AND MAKE A DECISION AFTER THE FIRST OF THE YEAR. KATHLEEN VINEHOUT FROM ALMA, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. MY PLEASURE. GOVERNOR WALKER IS ASKING STATE LAWMAKERS TO APPROVE A DELAY IN MOVING THOUSANDS OF WISCONSINITES FROM BADGER CARE TO OBAMACARE. WE WILL TALK TO ROBIN VOS ABOUT THE PLAN, NEXT. AND LATER, HOW WISCONSIN INSURANCE COMPANIES CONSUMERS ARE COPING WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE MARKET.