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njroar wrote:

With Carroll taking over and most likely rebuilding, I doubt they're gonna trade away picks to grab 1 player. Unless they feel their close to competing. They need alot of pieces too.

I agree. If the Seahawks were only a piece or two away, I'd say they might be interested in the deal, but only to get that one missing piece. But the 'hawks have many needs: A future QB, a RB, a LT, DT, DE, S......way too many things they need to retain their picks for.

Okung will be off the board at #6, but I can see them taking their future QB at that spot, and then using #14 on either Anthony Davis or Brian Bulaga to get their LT.

If the Rams take a QB first, Seattle might trade up......but likely with Tampa Bay, not the Lions. Unless, of course, the Bucs refuse to move down.....which I would doubt they'd do. They'd take the deal and slide down.

January 11th, 2010, 6:17 pm

njroar

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Yup, the only reason i'd see them try to trade up is if Carroll has alot of pieces fall together prior to the draft. A Palmer trade, Bush or Lendale White being released and other FA signings to fill gaps could make them a viable team in an uncapped year. Even if all that came together, i still doubt Carroll would toss away his chances to draft and rebuild smartly. Even if Allen has more cash then Snyder, I think Allen is alot smarter in recognizing building with youth instead of names.

January 11th, 2010, 7:38 pm

Wayne Fontes

Color Commentator - John Madden

Joined: January 19th, 2007, 3:21 amPosts: 1920Location: A2

I don't necessarily think that Carroll will want USC guys. If the opportunity presents itself for him to upgrade a position with someone who went to USC then he'll do it, but I dont' think he'd do it just because they went to USC. It's not like he's going to take Frostee Rucker and declare him as the starter. The Palmer trade idea is ludicrous. Bush and White... possible.

I can't see him trading two picks because he falls in love with one player. He's got a chance to bring in "his guys" ala Marinelli. He can bring in two top flight guys and could set up a potential QB & LT situation if the cards fall right. I'd love to have that situation as an incoming coach/gm.

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January 12th, 2010, 11:56 am

DJ-B

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Wayne Fontes wrote:

I don't necessarily think that Carroll will want USC guys. If the opportunity presents itself for him to upgrade a position with someone who went to USC then he'll do it, but I dont' think he'd do it just because they went to USC. It's not like he's going to take Frostee Rucker and declare him as the starter. The Palmer trade idea is ludicrous. Bush and White... possible.

I can't see him trading two picks because he falls in love with one player. He's got a chance to bring in "his guys" ala Marinelli. He can bring in two top flight guys and could set up a potential QB & LT situation if the cards fall right. I'd love to have that situation as an incoming coach/gm.

We did. We just chose the TE over the LT.

January 12th, 2010, 1:24 pm

Wayne Fontes

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Joined: January 19th, 2007, 3:21 amPosts: 1920Location: A2

DJ-B wrote:

Wayne Fontes wrote:

I don't necessarily think that Carroll will want USC guys. If the opportunity presents itself for him to upgrade a position with someone who went to USC then he'll do it, but I dont' think he'd do it just because they went to USC. It's not like he's going to take Frostee Rucker and declare him as the starter. The Palmer trade idea is ludicrous. Bush and White... possible.

I can't see him trading two picks because he falls in love with one player. He's got a chance to bring in "his guys" ala Marinelli. He can bring in two top flight guys and could set up a potential QB & LT situation if the cards fall right. I'd love to have that situation as an incoming coach/gm.

We did. We just chose the TE over the LT.

And we'll see how this turns out in the long run... Pettigrew Vs. Michael Oher.

Falcons win final Combine coin flipPosted by Mike Florio on February 26, 2010 9:01 AM ETThere were actually three coin flips this morning in Indianapolis to determine the order of the picks in the first round of the draft.

This time around, the Falcons trumped the Texans for the 19th pick. Houston will select at No. 20.

The Falcons have announced the outcome of the coin flip.

Surely, there has to be a better way to break these ties. For playoff positioning, up to 12 steps are used. For draft order involving teams from different conferences, a tie when it comes to strength of schedule results in a coin flip being used.

Then again, if a Super Bowl ever is tied at the end of regulation, a mere coin flip will be used to determine the team that gets the first crack at the ball in sudden-Lombardi overtime.

Titans win coin flip for 16th pickPosted by Mike Florio on February 26, 2010 8:56 AM ETThis year, the Underwear Olympics have adopted a new event. The coin flip.

Twice this morning a two-sided metal disc was thumb-popped into the air to determine round-one draft order. The first flip went to the Jaguars at No. 10; the second was won by the Titans at No. 16.

Specifically, Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean reports that the Titans prevailed over San Francisco in the process that determined which of the two teams will pick at No. 16, and which will pick at No. 17.

And as to the lower spot in the round, it's actually a victory for the Titans -- especially since the 16th pick is the last one for which a six-year contract may be used. From picks 17 through 32, the maximum contract length is five years.

That said, few if any contracts in the teens now entail a six-year contract. But if a team chooses to insist on a six-year deal, there isn't much a player can do about it.

Jaguars "win" coin flip for tenth pickPosted by Mike Florio on February 26, 2010 8:47 AM ETThe Jaguars and the Bears were tied in the 2009 standings. Because they had an identical strength of schedule and since they don't play in the same conference, the tie was broken by a coin flip held this morning in Indianapolis.

The Broncos were keenly interested in the outcome because the Broncos own the Bears' first-round pick, thanks to the Jay Cutler trade from last April.

Mike Klis of the Denver Post reports that the Jaguars won the flip, giving them the tenth pick. The Broncos will select eleventh.

But we're not sure it's really a victory for Jacksonville. As Klis points out, they'll spend at least $2 million more in guaranteed money in the ten spot, and with this year's draft pool regarded as a deep one, the Broncos will still be able to get a guy who potentially could become a good player.

Since the comp picks have been announced, we finally know which picks the Lions have. They are:

2
34
66
100
133
214 (from Cleveland)
255 (Supplemental)

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March 22nd, 2010, 5:40 pm

Wayne Fontes

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Mr. Irrelevant, alright! This is the second time in a few years now; Ramzee Robinson was the first. I'm going to take the high road here and not say that anyone who the Lions draft will be irrelevant because, hey, Matt Millen isn't here anymore.

It's hard for me to fight the urge of cynicism when talking about the Lions draft because of "The Dark Years". I try my best to keep telling myself "New GM, New GM, New GM" or "There's hope, There's hope, There's hope".

Lions fan's show that they are truly resilient, and with that resilience I want to see the city of Detroit follow suit and become a much better place then it is now. I'm waxing, sorry. Go Lions!