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Not seeing a three way happen where we help them get Stanton. Why would we not just go after Stanton ourselves? Our farm is far more loaded than the Dodgers and we have a much better shot at Stanton from them without help from a third team.

another example of why i dont think an ethier trade will happen.

they will only want to deal him if they are clearing room for upton or stanton.... 2 guys that prolly not too available but get talked about bc of their names.... and ms have a need and more specs to land these guys.

didnt think about that... it just seems hard to fathom... dodgers will have to pay $ to move ethier out of town, making bourn even more expensive (a boras client), when they already have the highest payroll? just ridiculous, but im not gonna put it past em.

I thought kemp was a good defender until looking. I was really surprised.

Matt.. that's why defensive metrics.. can be worthless.. Until there is a systematic methodology for defining and measuring defensive ability (there isn't a current that's worth a warm bucket of horse piss).. using defensive metrics to define a players ability, WAR, without the benefit of the 'smell test' or the "eye test" (that is, you actually watch the player play his defensive position), then imparting opinion based on the flawed measure is usually an exercise in futility or an indication of severe bias...

Matt.. that's why defensive metrics.. can be worthless.. Until there is a systematic methodology for defining and measuring defensive ability (there isn't a current that's worth a warm bucket of horse piss).. using defensive metrics to define a players ability, WAR, without the benefit of the 'smell test' or the "eye test" (that is, you actually watch the player play his defensive position), then imparting opinion based on the flawed measure is usually an exercise in futility or an indication of severe bias...

When he has only been postitive in UZR once, and as bad as -25.7 one year. -51 career, its pretty safe to say he is bad

you cannot just deny defensive metrics. UZR takes some time to get a good reading but its legit

UZR takes 3 years to make an accurate "diagnosis" though. Usually the eye test can come to the same conculsion within a couple of months. Then again, thats what UZR is, proffessional eye testers rating fielding.

UZR takes 3 years to make an accurate "diagnosis" though. Usually the eye test can come to the same conculsion within a couple of months. Then again, thats what UZR is, proffessional eye testers rating fielding.