Yeah, I used to live in Wales (just across the English border). When I first arrived, it took me a week to learn how to pronounce those first two L's at the beginning of every word. Every road sign for towns looked the same. I lived near Llangollen, Llangadwaladr, Llangedwyn, Llansilin, Llechrydau, Rhydycroesau, and Moelfre... none of which are pronounced like they look.

Memories... sometimes I miss my daily drive-to-work routine of chasing sheep that broke loose down a single lane road with 6 foot hedgerows on both sides, all while dodging oncoming traffic (single lane, remember!).

Yeah, I used to live in Wales (just across the English border). When I first arrived, it took me a week to learn how to pronounce those first two L's at the beginning of every word. Every road sign for towns looked the same. I lived near Llangollen, Llangadwaladr, Llangedwyn, Llansilin, Llechrydau, Rhydycroesau, and Moelfre... none of which are pronounced like they look.

Memories... sometimes I miss my daily drive-to-work routine of chasing sheep that broke loose down a single lane road with 6 foot hedgerows on both sides, all while dodging oncoming traffic (single lane, remember!).

Oooh, Llangollen. They have a kewl Doctor Who museum there, They have the fur-suited, crab-clawed, brain-in-a-goldfish-bowl monster there that scared the crap out of me when I was a kid. Seeing it in real life at 31 scared the crap out of me all over again, I **** you not!

Back on topic, I heard that they were going to officially change Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysilio gogogoch to LLanfair. That would be a bad idea. The only reason we went was to get piccies taken with the sign! There's little enough to do in Wales as it is.

To get the"Ll" at the beginning you simply huck up a greeny from the back of the throat, then for the rest of the word you simply disconnect your brain from your mouth and make a noise like you are trying to tell Groovepuppy about how civilised the scots are. You do this for exactly 3 minutes, and you are done!

North Wales is one of the most beautiful places on earth IMHO. I traced my paternal ancestry to Dolegellau and went for a visit a couple of years ago. I absolutely fell in love with the place.

Yes, it's a beautiful place. But the people can be a bit, well, Welsh. In the countryside, they like to talk English until a foreigner is in their midst, then all of a sudden they start speaking welsh. It's a secret code for them.

To get the"Ll" at the beginning you simply huck up a greeny from the back of the throat, then for the rest of the word you simply disconnect your brain from your mouth and make a noise like you are trying to tell Groovepuppy about how civilised the scots are. You do this for exactly 3 minutes, and you are done!

What gets me is that English was Anglish from the Angles who got jiggy with the Saxons. Then we came over here & said "f this,were gunna simplify this". So we now have UK English,American English,Aussie English. I always find that it's pronounced "heffavitzn",long I,accents on the ts (like the TZ sound in Slovak) & the "n",with no "e" sound. Funny that my dad's side is from wortemburg,upper Bavaria,which is South Central to us,lolz. And I have to learn the pronunskiashkun...