We dont need another weather thread for the same event.That being said, the armys job is to not to clear the streets as this would be competing with local businesses and taking away their financial opportunities.

While I appreciate the good humour in it all, lets be real, when Toronto called in the army, it was for good reason. Unlike small town somewhere, Toronto doesn't have anywhere to put the snow. It has to be trucked out. It doesn't have wide open, empty streets, that plows can just fly up and clear, they are narrow, and most plows, when the street doesn't have vehicles on them can barely get past. I know, its fun to joke, but, he did the right thing back then. No TTC, no clear streets, means this city grinds to a halt. Warehouses don't get the food / product shipments out, people cannot get to work, businesses were closed. It was a very real situation. I actually remember a small town grocery store calling our distro office because they were running out of supplies, and we couldn't get our trucks out, because our employee's couldn't get to work to load the trucks quick enough.

This province has an abundance of cities and towns with downtown cores that replicate Toronto's but on a smaller scale and they don't run to the army.

That abundance of small towns and cities don't have move millions of people across town to work, they don't have a transit system that provides another 1/2m or so rides a day.--No, I didn't. Honest... I ran out of gas. I... I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake.......

Yeah, with a population of 100 000 people, not 3-4 Million, plus another 1 million trying to come into the city. Comparing a small town to Toronto is silly in so many ways. However, you are right, next time, maybe we won't call in the army, and we can let small town Ontario go without supplies for a week.

While I appreciate the good humour in it all, lets be real, when Toronto called in the army, it was for good reason. Unlike small town somewhere, Toronto doesn't have anywhere to put the snow. It has to be trucked out. It doesn't have wide open, empty streets, that plows can just fly up and clear, they are narrow, and most plows, when the street doesn't have vehicles on them can barely get past. I know, its fun to joke, but, he did the right thing back then. No TTC, no clear streets, means this city grinds to a halt. Warehouses don't get the food / product shipments out, people cannot get to work, businesses were closed. It was a very real situation. I actually remember a small town grocery store calling our distro office because they were running out of supplies, and we couldn't get our trucks out, because our employee's couldn't get to work to load the trucks quick enough.

Um....no. Not the case at all. Toronto dumps snow all over from the few areas that they remove it. Toronto has very few areas where they actually do snow removal, mostly it is just ploughed and ploughed. As Elwood mentioned, one of the places is the Don Valley. It is right off the on and off ramp for Bayview and Bloor. They rotate the locations around and do not use the same one every year.--The irony of common sense, it is not that common.I cannot deny anything I did not say.A kitten dies every time someone uses "then" and "than" incorrectly.I mock people who give their children odd spelling of names.

That is my point, its put into dump trucks, and carted away. I didn't say where they put it. I was saying that they just don't drive a plough down the street, and dump it at the end of the street, where it will stay for the entire winter. Unless of course, its a mild winter. Just look at most of the side streets around us, they never get ploughed, a truck can't get down most of them in downtown and center town Toronto.

In a bad winter, I have seen them cart away from almost every major artery in the city, not counting the hi-way of course.

That is my point, its put into dump trucks, and carted away. I didn't say where they put it. I was saying that they just don't drive a plough down the street, and dump it at the end of the street, where it will stay for the entire winter.

I think the Metromelters are gone, I've not seen one on the road in years. What i do see is bob cats and front end loaders scopping up the snow at the side of the road and trucking it away, faster and more efficient then the MetroMelters.

Yeah, with a population of 100 000 people, not 3-4 Million, plus another 1 million trying to come into the city. Comparing a small town to Toronto is silly in so many ways. However, you are right, next time, maybe we won't call in the army, and we can let small town Ontario go without supplies for a week.

Nicely said! Any significant snow over Toronto affects millions of people, millions of vehicles, and thousands of major businesses. The logistics of what it takes to coordinate life in a big city like Toronto or New York is just astounding if you actually look at the flow of goods and people, and it takes relatively little to throw this fine-tuned orchestration into chaos, and the impacts are felt far and wide. Comparing it to snow over some rural backwater is just silly.--"The promoters of the global economy see nothing odd or difficult about unlimited economic growth or unlimited consumption in a limited world."-- Wendell Berry

While I appreciate the good humour in it all, lets be real, when Toronto called in the army, it was for good reason. Unlike small town somewhere, Toronto doesn't have anywhere to put the snow. It has to be trucked out. It doesn't have wide open, empty streets, that plows can just fly up and clear, they are narrow, and most plows, when the street doesn't have vehicles on them can barely get past. I know, its fun to joke, but, he did the right thing back then. No TTC, no clear streets, means this city grinds to a halt. Warehouses don't get the food / product shipments out, people cannot get to work, businesses were closed. It was a very real situation. I actually remember a small town grocery store calling our distro office because they were running out of supplies, and we couldn't get our trucks out, because our employee's couldn't get to work to load the trucks quick enough.

Correct.

There are more people in my ward than city of peteB. So we can understand why they care so much about Toronto. So its either Toronto or Toronto Maple leafs.

If Montreal, on an island, can find places for snow removal, Toronto, not on an island, definitely can.

As for that lady pushing a stroller through the snow... in Montreal, in that scenario, you would see a parent pulling their kids on a sled... Do people in Toronto not have sleds?--Developer: Tomato/MLPPP, Linux/MLPPP, etc »fixppp.org