What is this is all just to throw is off the trail? Opinions please. Also, if kinect is built it, it must have a wide angle lens because it depends where the xbox is put.. Whats the difference from xbox always being online to being online anyway when you sign in? Do people mean always be on? (like iphone). Right now M$ just has me confused atm.

-8GB RAM -500GB HDD -Kinect in everybox and required to be on at all times. -360 controllers won't work with it -It can run multiple games/apps at once -Blu-ray is included but it can't play games, only install them. Every game must be run off the HDD (must be an anti-piracy thing)

SuperDAE is well known as a legit source. Multiple sources backed his spec of nextbox dev kit and of his evidence. The only difference is he tried to sell it on ebay.

Usually Dev kits are only given when non-disclosure agreement(NDA) has been signed by devs and publishers. In America, the violation of such is a serious offence. The fact he even was able to sell a dev kit is quite a mystery and let alone illegal but multiple sources have admitted the dev kit is the real deal.

And anyone who violates the NDA can have their life made pretty unhappy. SuperDAE may be laughing about the FBI and police in his house now, but wait until he gets the bill for the raid... plus whatever damages lawyers can milk out of him. We will not be hearing from him for quite some time, if ever again.

Solid he tried to sell one on ebay but the purchased was blocked from what I read in a previous article. Anyway this guy is dumb for even trying to sell in first place. Another thing does anyone know if the SuperGae guy is a developer? I'm trying to know how he got his hands on not just one but two dev kits!!

The FBI have agents posted all over the world ( http://www.fbi.gov/contact-... It's not unheard of for the FBI and Australian Federal Police to work together. The two countries are close allies after all.

This wasn't a move made by Australian law enforcement...America has Embassies all over the world, regardless of this, when you have a multi-billion dollar company involved, they can get any government to do anything.

It'd be news over here (Australia) if the FBI did a raid - it's pretty unusual - the Kim Dotcom thing was all over the news for days, and he was in NZ. And there's no way the FBI could do a raid without the Australian Authorities - that would be all kind of illegal, and an international incident (imagine if the Australian Police were doing raids in the US!)

Axe99 is completely right, even though FBI have agents all around the world working on embassies (just like every other federal police from any country), they will only work on foreign cases under special circunstances, one always being the local government agreeing with the action (in this case, a raid) and, usually, said government controlling the operation, not USA government.

Going against it isn't a simply violation of jurisdiction, it's a violation of sovereignty, i.e. can be technically ruled as an act of war depending on local legislation.

That said, in the Twitter it's said he had 1 FBI Agent and 7-8 other police officers raiding the house, he never said there were a bunch of FBI agents, so if those other police officers are australian it's actually possible. In fact I suspect the protocol would be along those lines, Aussie government and police would agree, excecute and comand the action asked by US government, which would designate one FBI agent to oversee it, represent US in the warrant and report back.

But I too agree with Axe99 that this kind of action would generate quite a media fuss. Also we would of had some evidence on the internet.. I mean, your neighbour just got raided by FBI in Australia? Come'on, that's youtube material right there!

Well if that is a Very "Big if" He was in fact raided, it could have been for many thing's besides this, but the fact that" the warrant only really mentions "Microsoft", "eBay", "Paypal".

If that is the case it's Most likely about the information that was released to public more than anything, the Dev kit is one thing but releasing Info to the public that you are under NDA not to disclose unless under perjury to do so is like privilege!

However, when you have several sources confirming the devkit details were not bogus, it typically means his house was raided because he really did have a devkit and really did try to break the law by selling it on ebay. They obviously didn't care so much about the leaks as much as they did him trying to profit from them, hence why Ebay and PayPal were cited on the warrant. Him trying to profit from it is where he crossed the line. The idiot should have known better.

I'm normally against police raids of any kind, but this guy took something that (legally) wasn't his and tried to sell it. I can't sympathize with that.

Except SuperDae could be in some seriously deeper shit than he expected Viper7! haha. He broke the NDA so that right there has some HUGE consequences, not to mention trying to sell the dev kits ON TOP OF THAT..Not using their head very well I would say...how stupid is he/she?

You can always tell how close to the truth you are by how people in power react. If they pay it no attention it means they know better, if they go after that person it means they've gotten too close to the truth.

Dam a lot of people in here still wishing these specific rumors are not true trying trying to make a mountian out of a mole hill.

This BS about Kinect always being on as an excuse to cover up what they're really mad about which are the specs themselves is ridiculous. KInect cameras have settings which can stop using the video or set to not share online.

This myth of KInect always spying sending video to others and MSFT is an ignorant at best and slander at worst.

Godmars290 You are upset the dude said the xbox was an impressive graphical powerhouse and you stir up mondane sh!T to draw the attention from the stuff xbox owners really care about.

Not sure where you got that info. Wii U's GPU still gets smoked by both "Durango" and "Orbis". According to the leaks Durango's GPU is a bit weaker than PS4/Orbis... lacking 2 shader cores and 4 compute cores if I remember right (I think Durango has 12 and orbis 18). Maybe even a slower clock speed as well, but I don't remember the specifics.

Edit: Looks like I was right. From Eurogamer:

"Here's where we see our first point of divergence: GPU rendering is all about spreading the computational load across many cores and we find that the new Xbox has 12 of these "Compute Units" (CUs), while Orbis has 18 - a 50 per cent advantage. "

Better specs are better. End of story. If 'modern methods' of making games makes better use of tech then it can apply to Sony as well as MS so? you end up with EVEN better games again (on PS4) if the tech is 'better'.

That is, given the same game and each system pushed to it's max capabilities.

And these are games consoles. This gen has been a long drawn out one, and with all the casual stuff and tablets/phones taking over a lot of core gamers are once more ready for a PROPER focussed games console with raw power. There is never any way that 'less power' is better when it comes to gaming, if so we'd have stuck with the SNES or AMIGA or PS1 all these years.

We need/want more power onwards and upwards until games STOP looking like cartoons and start feeling like real experiences, so jaded gamers can start feeling excited again. There's only so many varieties of games and things you can do within them, until tech changes/advances, and we should always be keen to see that happen!

The stock version of the WiiU gpu scores a massive 5870 in mark vantage thats proper perfomance ie testing on games ect,and this is higher than a HD4850 which has the same terraflops as the 720 chip ? Nintendo will make the E6760 more efficient lower the clock speed a little but with on board EDRAM ect ect it's basically a Memory heavy E6760 that will score alot better in its modified form.

720 has a HD6670 go look it up all i know is if devs dont try u will get the same performance but the E6760 is better.

Actually I've never looked at that GPU being a problem, if there is more than one. I believe the next Xbox will heavily rely on HSA. That GPU has Accelerated Parallel Processing. I believe it is just the foundation for Microsoft engineers to build their own GPU. They will use updated modifications to get a ton of power from it and their advancements in HSA will allow them to get better efficiency out of having several CPUs and GPUs. It will all equal a very powerful console.

"His leaks were pretty accurate and he also had almost 90 pages of documentation, which clearly shows that he violated the NDA and used it to make some money. This raid is a clear indication that Microsoft isn’t happy with all the leaks, and it remains to be seen what happens."

"'Cos they're butt hurt poon pops... Microsoft and Apple are both crybaby pearl snorklers. As I said, Micro is just mad because now we all know they have the inferior console when stacked up to sony's, but more importantly Sony themselves now know it, too. This makes Micro look even more foolish and pathetic than they already are"

Really? come on the same thing was said about Sony and George Hotz, When you get a game system Developer or no developer reverse engineering the software or its security is a no no . The reason is because it not only protects your end but also the companies ability to make a standard playing experience across each and every sysyrm. if you break that chain it causes disruption to not just one part it can cause disruption to every system in the chain.

Hey if it's just your self that's one thing but as soon as you go public its going to effect everyone else. Because of his leak that may in fact be real, Microsoft's protected information about such product is no longer under that Aegis, So in effect it could damage the trade secret that was not ready to be disclosed thus the expense of product's for its security can prematurely be compromised thanks in part to someone who did it under NDA not to do such action's THAT IT IS WHY YOU SIGN SUCH CONTRACTS IN THE FIRST PLACE! you are under oath to keep your mouth shut.

its his own fault, or does the rules not apply to him?

this is not "i can do what ever i want" mentality this is reality, this is a legal binding contract you do something to void that and you will have to suffer the results for such action's.

He knew what he was doing was not a smart thing to do , but yet he did it anyway. if this is in fact true once you break NDA's no other company i doubt very much would ever want to work with him again. That is the least of his problems at this point.

If you understood what he released on a deeper level you might be able to figure out things about the hardware that Microsoft wasn't ready to reveal yet. No one really knows what the parts in the next Xbox or PS4 can do yet. Chip makers assume a lot of things that time proves are wrong. But releasing specs and identifying parts will make Sony look at those parts and start trying to figure out why they chose those specific parts. And using that and other information you know about Microsoft could lead to figure out more about their machines potential.

And common sense should tell you that if it was so unimportant, both Sony and Microsoft would just release all of the informtion on all of their parts.

WEAK specs? Those specs were impressive hense the reason it's got you guys trolling so much angry and nervous voting these specific rumors as fake on N4G front page compared to other rumors showing weaker specs LMAO. You suckers are in denial.

This Kinect always being on is causing gamers to be willfully ignorant.

@DigitalSmoke #23.2.2

That's because pro Sony media used the best PS4 rumor specs and the worst 720 specs to apoint PS4 as the winner. PS3 fanboys and pro Sony media ignored the leaked doc specs and and tried to dismiss katoku specs which showed the same very impressive specs the first leaked docs showed.

PS3 fanboys tried to mix and match rumors to confuse gamers and to attack the 720. The specs of the 720 are impressive which is why the spin campaign started with anti MSFT people looking for the worst 720 rumor specs they could find to compare the best PS4 rumor specs.