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Cakku의 댓글

With my mutilate build (41/20/0) it takes about 10-13s to get 5 cb and then SnD, meaning this trinket would be active 90% time. Can't wait to test if it has hidden cd similar to hourglass, allthough it shouldn't because it clearly states it has 100% proc chance with 5cb.

FallingDown의 댓글

Actually with 5 cps you got a (1 - 0.8^5) = 67% procc-chance.

zushiba의 댓글

I think it use to be calculated that way but was changed when other percentage based calculations were changed. Pretty much like how it effected Relentless strikes, which use to proc all the time now it has a much lower proc rate.FallingDown could easily be correct. It would roll a 20% chance for each combo point not add them together.

pinch999의 댓글

As a Mutilate Rogue, I would be able to keep this up the entire time on a boss fight. Looks great!

MrGerbz의 댓글

*drool*

6,5% (or something close to that) free crit after kidney shot.

swirlyeyes의 댓글

best used on a 41/20 build. no contest.

skwrlform의 댓글

Hemo. 31/0/30 FTW.

Lane4의 댓글

A decently geared mutilate rogue should be able to keep this proc up at least 80-90% of the time during sustained dps.

So, getting a nearly permanent 145 crit rating increase from a trinket is just insanely overpowered when compared to trinkets with static stats.

Hai2u의 댓글

Ok so to recap: 5 combo points = 100% chance to proc....assuming it follows the same mechanics as relentless strikes "Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to regain 25 energy"....EVERY rogue knows if you have relentless strikes talent and land a 5cp finishing move you ALWAYS regain 25 energy and I am betting this effect is the same - 5cp = 100% chance to proc.

morw의 댓글

..And to recap again to what the poster above said. I can _confirm_ 5 combo points = 100 % chance to proc and it does follow the same mechanics as relentless strikes. I would estimate with my combat sword build I kept this trinket up 75-100 % of the time depending on luck with combat potency procs (ie more energy to build up 5 combo points for an eviscerate / rupture / slice n'dice).

It isn't as good for fast-killed thrash (for combat ss rogues) since you need a full slice n'dice cycle (unless you're lucky and proc it off the first 1 pt slice n'dice you do) before you can focus on keeping this trinket up, but in longer fights this trinket is gold for combat ss rogues. Also this would be gold worth for mutilate-rogues both in PvE as well as PvP with their insanely fast cp-gen.

It should be noted this trinket relies more towards mutilate / sinister strike rogues than backstab dagger-rogues due to using finishing moves more frequently and having a higher combo points-generation, just like the deathmantle set-bonuses.

Wakako의 댓글

it means that if u have one combo point u have 20% chance to get the buff but the 5 means u will get it always! any rogue can get 5 combo points easy. just have a dagger in your offhand use shiv and you will rack up the points easy.

Rusi의 댓글

Doesn't work with Kidney Shot in live but will be fixed in 2.2.

Rainfall의 댓글

Confirmed, fixed to work with Kidney in 2.2.

kargathia의 댓글

Another reason why this actually works very nice for mutilate rogues is find weakness, this already makes it a bit of a requirement to use a finisher every 10 seconds roughly, and in practice it's quite possible too, save for dodges/parries on mutilate (no, don't flame with "you can't dodge from behind", I go mutilate something from the side and after a while I get a dodge, this is a very old point)I assume that every rogue who is exalted with ashtongue will have enough hit to never miss abilities

brighteye의 댓글

When this first came out, I thought to myself, "Wish I had done Aldor." Then when I heard that it'd been changed... I was kinda irked.

If 100 crit rating is overpowered, let me show you something.

Band of the Eternal Champion, like the Aldor version of the trinket, has a 45-50-second cooldown to their proc. The Hyjal ring gives 160 AP, not 200, and its ilvl is 152.

The Ashtongue Talisman of Lethality gives a rogue a 20% chance per combo point of getting 145 crit rating for 10 seconds. It's a pretty good trinket, isn't it? Its ilvl is 141.

Crit is an iffy stat, unlike AP. Even if you proc the Ashtongue trinket and get 35-50% crit, you're still likely NOT to crit. Aldor folks got the stuff that's for sure; Scryer people chose the less sure path, the iffy path, the crit path. Aldor people laughed when more and more players stacked resilience; Scryer people started farming basilisk eyes.

In my opinion, the "nerf" to the Scryer version of this trinket was uncalled for. All that we know of these combat ratings and stats is that the 16 AP gem is, for itemization purposes, equal to 8 crit rating. 2:1. In this case, 200 AP = 100 crit rating.

That someone farming Shattered Sun rep should be able to obtain a neck piece with a better proc than the exalted Hyjal ring is very cool. But to remove from the Scryer neck 100 crit rating, which doesn't even compare to how often you can maintain +145 crit rating with the BT trinket, which is ilvl 141, is kinda like it's Opposite Day or something. Is it Opposite Day today? Sorry, I forgot to wear my shirt inside-out.

Nerf the Aldor version or revert to the original Scryer version.

dentargfurby의 댓글

This trinket is very solid for mutilate, most likely the best trinket in the game for the spec. If this trinket didn't exist I wouldn't go mutilate. The crit increase is insane and with seal fate you get tons of points.

Ramona의 댓글

145 crit strike rating = 6.56% crit chance, and its buff is up almost all the time. If you have enough +hit, it's propably one of the best trinkets you can get.

ajdook의 댓글

Ok guys can someone explain it good is this trinket better then evry other exept one from SWP ofc? Thanks

Kahzee의 댓글

The best mutilate trinket.

Ptimerofl의 댓글

Rogues using this should alter their normal 3s/5r rotation to 5s/5r, in order to get the most out of this trinket.

villainae의 댓글

This is no longer the best assassination trinket, for anyone looking at it now. Dragonspine Trophy is much more valuable, as is Blackened Naaru Sliver.

Casn의 댓글

Just another example of how Blizzard messed up stats squish. Trinket was giving 145 crit rating before squish, and gives 419 crit rating after squish. So 'squish' nearly tripled it, making it quite decent trinket even at early lvl100.

nalfer의 댓글

This trinket is Almost as good as 아자켈의 피의 인장/blood-seal-of-azzakel&bonus=521 , still tiny bit lower in value, yet almost as good for a level 80 trinket. get your alts in BT and get exalted with the rep in order to buy it. and it will be Useful to you till you reach level 95 :P.

Jagi79의 댓글

Interested to hear how this trinket fares in BC Timewalking. Anyone?

Aeryndil의 댓글

At level 100, this is showing me 419 crit.... but it scales way down for TW........ interesting....

I think it's bugged and it is scaling up to level 100. Or it did it not get stat squished properly?