I jumped straight into stock class, even when I was feeling like I didn't like paintball anymore. Good thing I stuck with both. If you do have an option of trying out a pump gun, do it. Otherwise, take the few hundred dollar risk. If you don't like it, sell the gun to me.

IMO the phantom is good for stock class, but for open class, the tiny phantom looks awkward with a hopper and tank.

Who cares about looks? It's all about performance, and preferred feel. I am so sick of people saying that the phantom isn't a good open class marker, because they are. They are still light (relative to other OC) They are quiet, reliable guns that the pump stroke isn't bad on stock, plus with a UC kit the pump stroke is amazing and 100% good enough to be used for OC. If it wasn't you wouldn't see the picture below

Regardless the fact his is a stock class body, that just proves the pump stroke would be even better for open class... With the right set up, phantoms can be amazing open class markersthrow an under cocking kit on that and you've got a perfectly good open class gun

and if you want to use a bulk tank you can run something like this

There are all kinds of options, check the PHOG they have even more that may be more to your likes, but all of these will be amazing OC pumps

Edited by The-Phantom, 16 June 2009 - 05:42 PM.

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well, if you're talking $200 - then you don't really have the phantom as an option. you can get an open-class back bottle phantom for that price - but at that point you might as well get a Trracer for $50.

Bump that total up to $250-$300 then you can include a nicely set up open class phantom.

well, if you're talking $200 - then you don't really have the phantom as an option. you can get an open-class back bottle phantom for that price - but at that point you might as well get a Trracer for $50.

Bump that total up to $250-$300 then you can include a nicely set up open class phantom.

Thought i was posting in that pump gun for under 300 thread LOL, i was more trying to make the point that phantoms CAN be phenomenal open class markers

and sorry lewthor, but it was in the pump action pics thread and i was only using it for the fact he was pumping with 1 finger

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WARNING RANT [relativity short one]
I am sick of people bitching "phantoms pump strokes are not fast or smooth enough. IT IS A FUCKING PUMP GUN. If you want to play open class and shoot fast get a mech semi. Pumps are meant to slow. A sniper with a AT and a CCM pump kit can be as fast or a little slower that a mech cocker. I play stock class and open class with my phantom. Stock class for speedball and open class for woodsball.
i am done.

If you get tunnel vision, you will be shot. If you focus on a single lane, you will be shot. If you stay still, you will be shot. If you waste paint on a guy dug into a bunker, you will be shot. If you stick out too long, you will be shot. If you give them a foot, you will be shot. If you stick your head out in the same place three times on rhythm, you will be shot.-Bryce LarsonMy Youtube Channel: Shadowsniper11IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING A PUMP GUN TEAM IN DELAWARE CONTACT ME!!

If you get tunnel vision, you will be shot. If you focus on a single lane, you will be shot. If you stay still, you will be shot. If you waste paint on a guy dug into a bunker, you will be shot. If you stick out too long, you will be shot. If you give them a foot, you will be shot. If you stick your head out in the same place three times on rhythm, you will be shot.-Bryce LarsonMy Youtube Channel: Shadowsniper11IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING A PUMP GUN TEAM IN DELAWARE CONTACT ME!!

I agree it is kind of annoying to be told your marker is only good for one thing when you know it's not. If I didn't already have a sniper I would totally buy a Phantom and use it for both OC and SC, I'd probably leave it Modified SC all the time actually. I rarely shoot more then 20 rounds a game and the SC feed I love. I do like a 3.5oz more then 12ies but eitherway I dig it. The phantom is very versatile and reliable.

yeah i don't usually play TRUE stock class i play modified. Stock class 15rds and a bottomline with a 68/4500 [i know it is big but that is what i used when i played semi and to me phantoms are to light so it works for me [and if you don't like the big bottle KISS MY ASS].

If you get tunnel vision, you will be shot. If you focus on a single lane, you will be shot. If you stay still, you will be shot. If you waste paint on a guy dug into a bunker, you will be shot. If you stick out too long, you will be shot. If you give them a foot, you will be shot. If you stick your head out in the same place three times on rhythm, you will be shot.-Bryce LarsonMy Youtube Channel: Shadowsniper11IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING A PUMP GUN TEAM IN DELAWARE CONTACT ME!!

And on the topic of the OP - again, yes, a phantom can be set up for open class - bottom line and all, but with a 45 grip, a bottom line setup etc you're looking at a $300+ gun.

I have not been on here in a while and guess i am used to PBn shit. and i forgot how Cockerpunk and maybe Bryce were the most laid back mod ever

Yeah mine was close to 345 but i got a stock class body and a center feed+an acid wash ano

Edited by shadowsniper11, 16 June 2009 - 11:29 PM.

If you get tunnel vision, you will be shot. If you focus on a single lane, you will be shot. If you stay still, you will be shot. If you waste paint on a guy dug into a bunker, you will be shot. If you stick out too long, you will be shot. If you give them a foot, you will be shot. If you stick your head out in the same place three times on rhythm, you will be shot.-Bryce LarsonMy Youtube Channel: Shadowsniper11IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING A PUMP GUN TEAM IN DELAWARE CONTACT ME!!

CP and bryce are awesome mods, they let a lot of petty stuff go but if there is just ridiculous repetitive BS they step in... i like um the one word i'd say for them is they are reasonable, actually 2 words "very reasonable" with there requests and warnings etc the place is run well.

Then there is Tenacious who comes in and closes threads left and right im JK, it just seems like his threads he closes are totally random that he hasn't posted in and BAM, closed lol... closed for good reason though, like this one may be because i feel it's going to become a rate that mod discussion board, so back on topic?

for under 200, both are great guns and will do what ever you want them to do, some upgrades will make the guns feel better to you if you so please to put them on your gun, personally i prefer a phantom, but to each his own

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If you get tunnel vision, you will be shot. If you focus on a single lane, you will be shot. If you stay still, you will be shot. If you waste paint on a guy dug into a bunker, you will be shot. If you stick out too long, you will be shot. If you give them a foot, you will be shot. If you stick your head out in the same place three times on rhythm, you will be shot.-Bryce LarsonMy Youtube Channel: Shadowsniper11IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING A PUMP GUN TEAM IN DELAWARE CONTACT ME!!

Thats IF you can get past the borders, and once you do I'll send the polar bears and beavers to attack you.

That is the funniest conversation I have ever heard in my entire life im laughing my lungs out right now just ask the phantom. Any conversation that involves moderator rape, beavers, and polar bears is just plain hilarious.

If you get tunnel vision, you will be shot. If you focus on a single lane, you will be shot. If you stay still, you will be shot. If you waste paint on a guy dug into a bunker, you will be shot. If you stick out too long, you will be shot. If you give them a foot, you will be shot. If you stick your head out in the same place three times on rhythm, you will be shot.-Bryce LarsonMy Youtube Channel: Shadowsniper11IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING A PUMP GUN TEAM IN DELAWARE CONTACT ME!!

If you get tunnel vision, you will be shot. If you focus on a single lane, you will be shot. If you stay still, you will be shot. If you waste paint on a guy dug into a bunker, you will be shot. If you stick out too long, you will be shot. If you give them a foot, you will be shot. If you stick your head out in the same place three times on rhythm, you will be shot.-Bryce LarsonMy Youtube Channel: Shadowsniper11IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING A PUMP GUN TEAM IN DELAWARE CONTACT ME!!