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Wednesday, September 22, 2010

Now Sarah claims to have given birth to Trig in Anchorage. What is wrong Sarah can't keep the lies straight anymore?

There are numerous lies in this clip. From Sarah's claim to have "caught" a caribou (when as we learned from Malia Litman's blog she would have been breaking the law to have done so), to claiming that there were "half a million people" at Glenn Beck's KKK rally, to Palin's biggest lie about giving birth to Trig.

If you don't want to listen to the whole clip that is fine and I certainly do not blame you, after all it is mostly the same cookie cutter speech she always tells,

However I would like you to listen to the portion that starts right around 14:38. This is the beginning of her ever evolving tale of the birth of Trig Paxson Van Palin. She brings up the "sourdoughs" that she felt would belittle her pregnancy. She mentions that she hid it for seven months (listen for the audible gasp that emanates from several women), and that it was easy to hide because of the layers of clothes that she was able to put on due to the weather. She again mentions that her staff were too nice to mention her getting "chunky". (I addressed many of these lies in my post from Saturday) Then she makes fun of the bloggers who still challenge her birth story (The "haters" she calls us).

Then she adds a new wrinkle to her mythology when she nonchalantly mentions that she and Todd flew home ("Can't have a fish picker born in Texas") and had the baby in ANCHORAGE!

IS it possible that Sarah Palin FORGOT one of the important elements of a story that she tells over and over again?

Did she confuse Trig's birth with the birth of another of her children? (Unlikely as I believe ALL of her children were born in the Valley.)

Or is she subtly changing the story, one detail at a time, so that it does not sound so insane when it gets reported during her run for the Presidency in 2012? (That will some trick since there are hundreds of news reports and blog posts that lay out all of the details of her "Wild Ride" and miraculous delivery in Wasilla. Not to mention on pg. 195 of her own book.)

That seems like an awfully big detail to get wrong to me.

Get the baby's birth weight wrong, I can see that. Forget the time you delivered, could happen to anybody. But forget which hospital you "gave birth" in, after telling the story a hundred times, and writing a book about it?

154 comments:

Excuse me: Why, oh WHY, is she talking about this??? Does this make any sense to anyone??? Did someone ASK about Trig's birth? If I didn't know better I'd say a certain Quitter Queen is nervous about something. After two year, who is she still trying to convince?

She is trying to change the narrative because she is understanding that most women aren't buying her tripe. Once a woman hears about the wild ride, they immediately become skeptical of her "story"; the same reason she is changing her story about 7 1/2 months. Its bad enough to try and pass off a lie that you "hid" the pregnancy from your entire family and staff, but add all the other details and she is finding that women aren't going to buy it. Hard mopping up isn't it Sarah? All those lies floating around out there. Pretty soon, as you are already becoming aware of, they start bumping into each other. Tsss Tsss

I, too, think she changed the birth to occur in Anchorage because she does not think anyone will fact check her should she run for President. If people 'sort of' remember hearing her story of the supposed birthing, Anchorage is where the better care was for a child 'like' she was suppose to deliver. This woman amazes me and is such a fraud. I so hope this birthing process falsehood gets out in the media, as it will be what brings her down...that or an IRS or FBI investigation.

i am just glad that the trig birth story is still getting air-time. it is an important falsehood that surprisingly few people know about or believe, even if they've heard it. my sister despises SP, but she was scorning the trig-truthers until i took her through it.keep the stories coming, Gryphen, because new readers of your blog are new to the info.

Like anyone would really believe that a DS baby born at seven and a half months would be released after a normal hospital stay and his mother would take her premature DS baby out right away with her to work where he could be exposed to germs that could cause a life-threatening infection or illness. Where I come from, premies have an extended hospital stay until they have reached an acceptable weight and are healthy enough to go home. And these babies don't have complications from DS!

"Subtly changing the story" is about right. Most of the people in this country haven't even heard about the "wild ride". Looks like she's working to tone it down by eliminating the Ice Road Trucker haul from Anchorage to Wasilla.

Also, working on blurring the edges, making the story even more fuzzy around the edges. Much harder for your opponents to refute six or seven very slightly different stories than one consistent one.

That, or someone with some sort of credibility is finally getting ready to state loudly and clearly that Trig was not born at Mat-Su, and this is preemptive. (but I don't really put much hope in that possibility).

Sorry, I didn't listen to the clip, but I'm wondering about Sarah "catching" a caribou. How did she do that...with a big cage?? Then did she take it home for Piper to play with?? I thought the correct term was "shot a caribou."

She may very well, as you've suggested, be rewriting history here for when somehow some part of the truth involving the birth of this child is revealed. For some reason, the place of his birth may come to light.

It is also possible that the new place of Trig's birth could be a red herring. Sarah may have intentionally thrown in that detail to keep us guessing to throw us of track of the real story which is perhaps potentially on the cusp of breaking.

God, she is just so insane!!

It seems our modern day Shakespeare has forgotten the lessons of the weaving that tangled web.

Nope, it will evolve to how the sourdoughs and liberal pro-Abortionists (as if they exist) wouldn't have approved of her servants heart aching to adopt an unwanted and unplanned DS child from the native community while she was just a newly elected, young Governor.

So she had to concoct a pregnancy to justify keeping a child with special needs when she already had so much on her plate.

Oh how her supporters, especially the pro-lifers will swoon with her selfless dedication! Saint Sarah, bless her heart.

Then us liberal haters will cite Andrew Sullivans blog on Why Trig Matters - it wasn't to be a loving adoptive mother. It was a gimmick to perpetrate an audacious, devious self-serving ploy to catch the attention of a GOP Presidential run weak on front runners looking for such a poignant narrative (to make up for such a lame resume and other worldly qualifiers.)

Sarah knew she didn't have the credentials of her own merit, she needed a Trig, to prop up her image so that she could parade that fragile prop to the rapturous conservative base. It was cunning, it was brilliant. But no wonder she is losing her hair, her weight. The tension and fear of exposure is tearing at her nerves.

So she prowls the blogs, the bellweather of the topical MSM nipping at her naughty monkey heels. This is why she rages a daily assault on the press, to discount them for when they finally deep throat this cover up. It will shock the world and bring Sarah down, but she'll still have that hero status to the Christian pro-life base. And she can always grift. She just can't rule the U.S. America the way the Tea Party wants her too.

CGinWI: "That, or someone with some sort of credibility is finally getting ready to state loudly and clearly that Trig was not born at Mat-Su, and this is preemptive. (but I don't really put much hope in that possibility)."

Yeah, that's what I considered when SP did her do-over of the ultrasound session. No longer a tech telling her the horrible news, as of course no tech ever would. Now it's a doctor. I suspect some ultrasound tech--perhaps one CBJ has always referred her patients to--made noises about Palin being full of shit.

Behold Sarah Palin, the comedian, the laugh riot, the stretchin'-the-truth, holdin' for applause monologist, winkin' at Texans and riffin' as she goes. What crazy thing will she say tonight? All hail Sarah Palin 3.0, as that other Perry guy said: "The Entertainer." She's the next Courtney Love. Soon theaters across America will be booking her as a one-woman show (but not comedy stores.)And now her daughter is, also too, a dancer...Hey ,Michael Palin, watch out. Them Wasilly Todd Palins are encroaching on your legacy...

I noticed that she never pointed out that people accuse her of not BIRTHING Trig, not that he is not her son. She never mentions giving birth, just that he is her son and she had him. Yea, when someone puts him in your arms, you have him. I also thought her going on and on about herself, (as per usual), was really weird. You can tell when she lies, her voice gets really high and shrill and is seems like she is about to explode. I really think someone may be about to blow the lid off of this plot.

You know she also glosses over Track HAVING to go in the military, like he enlisted and like he is still there. I don't know why I have never heard why he is home so soon. I was thinking he could make some serious money by writing a "Mommy Dearest" and he would be able to sit around do drugs and never have to work.

Trig's birth is not registered in the daily birth records of the Mat Su hospital anyway...never was, never will be. Anyone can check it. Those records were posted on one of the Alaska blogs months ago, and a little poking around should easily bring it back up.

She keeps it up because it's the only way she relates to the world, or apparently, her family or anywhere/anyone else. At the least I'd go for a diagnosis of Antisocial Personality Disorder, which is characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for the rights of others; in APD patients lie to get what they wish – usually money, sex or power.

If not that, then a dx of full-blown sociopath, which is where she really fits the pattern better; she uses anyone she can, including those supposedly dear to her, for her personal gain regardless of the fallout on the victimized person (and I'm not talking about her there!) and when she's ruined one "excuse" after another, leaves them lying in the dust. Or in this case, under the bus. Both disorders involve compulsive, chronic lies.

No mother of normal intellect forgets when her baby was born, nor where, and many mothers without normal intellect don't forget either.

Either someone is threatening to come forward with the real story, or Palin's trying to ease her fans into the real story herself. At any rate, she's going to have to put this story to rest if she's going to make a run for 2012.

For certain, the folks who think she's fabricated a story are NOT going to let it go. Ever.

Somebody in Alaska should report Sarah Palin's poaching since she did not have a license. There is a list of licese winners for Caribou on this website. I don't see any Palin on it, but I don't understand if there would be other lists for other herds?

Great photo, Amy 1, and well-timed. Always happy to see your byline. And there in the accompanying article: "born at Mat-Su Regional." Oh, well. I've almost given up on the power of facts, these days. As if facts mattering are an archaic notion. since palin will never be before a journalist, no one can ask for a clarification or answer. She is free to ride roughshod over us all.

I have to agree with laprofesora. Why does she keep bringing this up? She must feel that alligators are nipping at her heels or she would not be talking about it. The only place I ever read anything about babygate is here and on related blogs. It's certainly not in the MSM. That is why it is so odd that she is talking about it. SHE is now the one adding fuel to the fire.

That bogus ultrasound tech story, yeah, she had to switch the way she 'learned' of Trig's DS diagnosis.

When I started dilating at the beginning of my third trimester, my OB/GYN ordered a surgeon to perform an emergency cerclage. It was uncertain if my water actually broke anyway and the ultrasound tech was sent in to check on the baby and the amniotic level.

She was Russian, stoic and hard-lived, you could tell she's seen it all. Nevertheless, she cried silently as she took the baby's measurements and other data. But she didn't and couldn't say a word to me about what she was seeing. As is procedure, the doctor had to tell me that this healthy, normal but still developing baby wasn't going to make it.

Her and Todd eloping to "save on money," the Wite-out story, the wild-ride, . . . out of all her outlandish exaggerations regarding her family planning style (fast and lose) the only thing I find credible is her paddling furiously in her canoe to induce a 4th of July baby. She is a wild and irresponsible baby-maker and a pathological liar.

Ok, big vent coming up. I can't understand how someone who constantly recycles the same old, tired sound bites over and over again (God, Trig, attack critics, attack LSM, etc., except "do you loooovvee your freedom" is now "restoring America's honor" and the "Beck assocition" is added) in speech after speech has to refer to notes. A one-trick pony. But I think she is working on her delivery to minimize the word-saladiness, also, too.

So she now was going "into labor in Texas"? "I think I am" [to Gov. Perry]! Anchorage!

The sad thing is that she talks about Trig in utero basically every time she gives a speech, yet he has not been seen since when, the beginning of this year? You would think that she could, and would talk about how he is now and how he is growing and developing and how she and her family are addressing any challenges. Which makes me wonder if he is out of the picture, a discarded and thrown away prop. Do her fans not pick up on this glaring omission? Don't they wonder why she never talks about how Trig is now? Or her constant reference to her sister (never her) as the nuturing mother? Or that she is very seldom home?

Finally, once again, the conservatives lie and misrepresent legislation to scare the hell out of the base. Either she is reciting a talking point in her notes or she again is demonstrating her lack of knowledge of anything. Or both. The Hyde Amendment, prohibiting federal funding of abortions (except as allowed per US Supreme Court rulings), is alive and well. To get health care reform passed, President Obama signed an Executive Order confirming this, and confirming that the Hyde Amendment applies to the new insurance exchanges. The abstracted references may be too long to post, but I will try. Yet she tells the crowd that federal money will be used for abortions under the new health care law. Oh, that's right, rape and incest and endangerment of the mother's life now doesn't matter to the far right. Who cares if there is no mom to take care of the baby?

Does she not understand that the new health care reform law also includes funding for ABSTINENCE education? So she wants FUNDING FOR ABSTINENCE EDUCATION repealed too? In't ABSTINENCE education Bristol's job now (well, one of them)? Doesn't her daughter get PAID for that message by Candie's? Me thinks Palin is only able to recite a bullet-point policy talking point. Nothing more.

The White HouseOffice of the Press SecretaryFor Immediate Release March 24, 2010 Executive Order -- Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act's Consistency with Longstanding Restrictions on the Use of Federal Funds for AbortionEXECUTIVE ORDERENSURING ENFORCEMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF ABORTION RESTRICTIONS IN THE PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE CARE ACTBy the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" (Public Law 111-148), I hereby order as follows:Section. 1. Policy. Following the recent enactment of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (the "Act"), it is necessary to establish an adequate enforcement mechanism to ensure that Federal funds are not used for abortion services (except in cases of rape or incest, or when the life of the woman would be endangered), consistent with a longstanding Federal statutory restriction that is commonly known as the Hyde Amendment. The purpose of this order is to establish a comprehensive, Government-wide set of policies and procedures to achieve this goal and to make certain that all relevant actors -- Federal officials, State officials (including insurance regulators) and health care providers -- are aware of their responsibilities, new and old.The Act maintains current Hyde Amendment restrictions governing abortion policy and extends those restrictions to the newly created health insurance exchanges. .......

The White HouseOffice of the Press SecretaryFor Immediate Release March 24, 2010 Executive Order -- Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act's Consistency with Longstanding Restrictions on the Use of Federal Funds for AbortionEXECUTIVE ORDERENSURING ENFORCEMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF ABORTION RESTRICTIONS IN THE PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE CARE ACTBy the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the "Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act" (Public Law 111-148), I hereby order as follows:Section. 1. Policy. Following the recent enactment of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (the "Act"), it is necessary to establish an adequate enforcement mechanism to ensure that Federal funds are not used for abortion services (except in cases of rape or incest, or when the life of the woman would be endangered), consistent with a longstanding Federal statutory restriction that is commonly known as the Hyde Amendment. The purpose of this order is to establish a comprehensive, Government-wide set of policies and procedures to achieve this goal and to make certain that all relevant actors -- Federal officials, State officials (including insurance regulators) and health care providers -- are aware of their responsibilities, new and old.The Act maintains current Hyde Amendment restrictions governing abortion policy and extends those restrictions to the newly created health insurance exchanges. .......

I'd say she is slowly changing her story to cover her ass as her lies are being exposed piece by piece.

Now it's a doctor who did the ultrasound rather than a tech (because a tech would never deliver any news about the fetus). Who cares that it's nearly impossible to imagine that she would getting that identification wrong so short a time after it happened?

Now it's anchorage instead of mat su because it's slightly less crazy to think that she would stop at a hospital with a nicu rather than drive the extra hour plus to get to her small town medical center. Who cares about all the previous reports (including those from her own mouth and pen) of Trig's delivery at Mat Su?

And, of course, she's already planted the seed of an (albeit ridiculous "wite out") explanation should anyone suggest she had an abortion between Track and Bristol.

"She brings up the "sourdoughs" that she felt would belittle her pregnancy." ..... so Saint Sarah who ran as gov'r in order to clean house and to kick out the Corrupt Bastards club, who presents herself and an independent, self sufficient ruff and tuff Alaskan who has no fear of hunting ferocious animals and standing up for herself, who has Toad run interference for her for any perceived confrontation, doesn't listen to her advisors or handlers...wimps out and is so concerned about what others may say about her being pregnant? Is Sybil in the house? All her ruff and tuff personas that she tried to cultivate since bailing on her 1/2 governorship, like the pit bull with lipstick, mamma grizzlies, 'don't run but reload', 'don't sit down and STFU' .... is all hot air from a coward. Your explanation of hiding your pregnancy doesn't jive with your orchestrated tough girl image. And we really know that both are a facade.

Something is up. Two speaches in a row where she is shreaking about the Trig myth. Somebody is very close or ready to spill the beans. She seems twice as amped up as normal. Stay tuned this is gonna get good.

To everyone who thinks BRistol is Trig's biological mother, remember Levi went on the record in a video interview stating she is not AND he claims the retarded baby statement. Levi is pretty careful not to disrepect Bristol, aside from a couple statement. For Levi to make the retarded baby statement (I'm 100% sure its not true tho) Trig cannot be his babymama's child. That would eternally piss her off and he would never see Tripp again.

My only question now is, if the triggybear pics were indeed taken May 3rd (?) and that baby looks like the Trig we know today, who gave birth to him around that date?

My other observation: Ivy Frye's tweet that discussed Sarah at the GOP convention in early-mid March 08 and Andrea McCleod "jumping her". She then states "a week before Trig was born" which would make his birthdate in the third week of March. If Trig was due in May, THAT would be 7.5 months right?

Trig looks too much like the family to be adopted and that takes a length of time. I don't think Bristol is his mom because of references to her in interviews with Sarah (Elan Frank). In Oct 07, she doesn't look pregnant.

Why did Sarah take her to NY? probably to get her away from Levi. I don't buy into the intense fighting. She looked content at the 2009 summer picnics and the last fairbanks speech. Her and Todd appeared congenial. Right up until the resignation, and around July 4th, they all seemed happy and on the same page.

Only now it's out of date already -- the following lies need to be added: 7.5 mo gestation or 8? amnio technician or amnio MD? Matsu hospital or Anchorage? It's just so hilarious (if it weren't so sad) that NONE OF THE ABOVE ARE CORRECT. Because of course SP was not pregnant then.

I'm not sure if you will let this through but I found this comment posted anonymously on another blog on July 21 very interesting:

"From deep inside political contacts - sorry, I have to remain anon:

Sarah is working on a redemption arc to sell to the media re: the real birth origins of Trig. Bristol's "marriage/non-marriage" is getting in the way at the moment, because Sarah wanted the next big story about her to break to be a big, loud payday of "I raised my daughter's child to prevent him from being aborted, look at me, I'm pro-life, vote Republican in November." Her handlers are still going to work this angle before too long, definitely before the elections. They're still testing out which outlet to sell this to, preferably an hour long talk show format with a friendly hostess. If only Elizbeth Hasselback had her own show - she's the type that they want to feature it.

Alternately, she's looking for a big magazine to break it - along with a fee of $250,000 for an exclusive. This is the starting amount for the negotation. Bristol's little melodrama is detracting from her plans and also lowering her asking price considerably, since People, US, et al are starting to weary of the Palin family saga.

Just when things quiet down again, look for the Trig story to break. It might be very late into the fall, mid-October, right before elections - Rove and company are pushing to help with a November Republican sweep."

Sorry to repeat myself. A good liar needs an excellent memory. Sarah should take a lesson from the late Jan Berry of Jan and Dean. Jan nearly died in a car accident. With the help of Dean and a strong will to recover, he was able to tour until he passed. Due to the brain damage, before every performance he listened to cassettes to relearn the songs he wrote. Palin need to relearn the stories she wrote before every screech, er speech.

I still don't get why she would create a fake pregnancy in the first place. She was nowhere on the VP radar at that point, and if memory serves, McCain's staff had to Google a name of a female office holder and she popped up. No one really knew much about her at that time.

As much as I despise this woman, I still do not have a clear picture as to why she would create a fake pregnancy in the first place.

No! Not for one second will I ever believe that Mrs. Todd Palin...commonly known as SARAH...is changing her story because other women recognize the basic errors in her story....hilarious! Like Scarah cares about what people think about her? Of course, she does. But that concern does NOT illicit honesty. History has shown that Scarah chooses to 'shred' anyone that disagrees with her.

But melt down has begun!

She has gotten so over confident in her fame....and/or the lies have become so conveluted....she has no clue of what she is saying.

But I am willing to bet that this is the truth. The real Trig was born in Anchorage at the Alaska Native Service Hospital. As the child of a Native Alaskan, the birth of this child - him or her - was paid for by the American tax payer. Why would the grifter pay for anything that she could get for free?

So the question still remains was this child Bristol's or Diana's? That seems to be the question.

Trig, a special needs baby, was born at 7 1/2 months and she returns to the work 3 days later with him in her arms? Is this the story now?

A baby born prematurely, and certainly having the difficulties associated with his handicap, is discharged 3 days later from the hospital and brought to work? But wasn't she also breast feeding as well? Where did the milk come from?

OK, my take on it is that Trig may have actually been born in Anchorage and there is documentary evidence of his birth there. This will explain the lack of docs in Mat-Su Clinic. And the reason for the confusion is because the mother's name on those docs is not Sarah Palin. Wasn't Bristley in Anchorage around that time attending school?

4:48, Not only did Sarah need a Trig to give her authenticity, she needed a Trig as a defense shield. With Trig in tow, Sarah Palin is not just any ordinary mama. She's the mama of a special-needs child, the highest of all pedestals, liberating Sarah from criticism.

5:17, When you've stated in speeches that your baby was born in Wasilla, when you've written it in your book that your baby was born in Wasilla, when Wasilla is practically a household name in the country, YES it is exceedingly odd to start saying your baby was born in Anchorage. I can land in Love Field and drive 40 minutes to where my child was born, but I do not say my baby was born in Dallas. Sorry, it makes no sense.

Jezebel.com has their weekly roundup of tabloid stories out today and #10 is a tabloid (not sure which one) that has a story from Mercede Johnston regarding why Bristol would not come into the Johnston home for Christmas celebrations in 2007. Apparently she had just had a "boob reduction" according to Mercede but Bristol told Levi to say that "she had a zit" and was too embarrassed to see anyone.

Link (it is story #10):http://jezebel.com/5644993/this-week-in-tabloids-david-beckhams-call-girl-tells-all/gallery/10

I think that she had a giant zit, in her abdomen and didn't want for anyone to see her in her 5th to 6th month of her pregnancy with Trig.

Mercede has spoken of Bristol hanging out in Levi's room and not letting anyone else see her, during this same time period.

So much does not add up about Bristol's mono and absence from the Palin family home during the critical months of Trig's gestation.

Also, why would the Palin's send their child, with Mono, to live with Aunt Heather in Anchorage who has at least a few children of her own that most likely should not be exposed to this illness?

It's becoming so much more apparent that Bristol gave birth to Trig, at some point between Feb and April of 2008. There is just no other explanation, unless Trig is Willow's and Bristol is being used as a red herring because it would be even worse for Willow at age 13 to have birthed a child. (BTW, my friend's child had an abortion at 13, so it does happen, youngsters can also give birth to Down's babies.)

7:43, Palin had already been contacted by others in the Religious Right movement well before the 2008 primaries.

When the McCain camp Googled her, why do you think she was so attractive compared to others who were more well-known? The story was already set in motion. It had to be. The announcement of her pregnancy the day after McCain's win created "fresh" news that trumpeted the very thing that gave Palin a calling card.

Anon@7:45PM, I'm going to believe Gryphen and Mercede and say that Trig is not Bristol's child. Stupid question, though. Who is Diane?

Also too, I think Sarah is so over-confident that she doesn't care about lying; I think she knows exactly what she's saying. There seems to be a growing population that have no qualms with blatant contradictions. Any statement of easily verifiable fact which casts a tea bagger in a negative light is called an "attack".

You can bet your bippee the Palinbots will be saying "The haters are viciously attacking Sarah. She only said Anchorage because no one ever heard of Mat-Su Valley". When I'm out of state, I'll say I'm from Worcester-ish. But then again, if I had as many adorers as she, I wouldn't need to name the nearest large city.

What really disturbs me is how the audience laughed at the "haters" every time she contradicted herself. I think she's quite pleased with herself that she can say the sun is the moon and she's got a growing army (well armed, I'm sure) that will defend her if anyone calls her a liar.

I can't see any way Sarah's changing the narrative of where Trig was 'born'. She's losing it and really messed up throwing the Anchorage bit into her Trig comedy routine. She's gone off the deep end -- marginalizing the press and now, for the first time at her paid appearances, the Trig Truthers.

But she also legitimized the TT's by explaining the reason the pregnancy and birth are questionable. On the other hand, everyone's been warned they'll be part of the haters club if they question her strange and humorous tale.

Can we figure out what triggered Sarah's ramped up fear of the Trig Truthers?

I enjoyed reading the great comments and funny ones here. I laughed loudly of the idea SP is testing which version of her lies she'll go with lol. Maybe she is simply testing to market her alleged born child so she can win an election. That sounds like something a sick and twisted person might do.

Excellent points though as to why she is still talking about this. I think that by bearing the cross of a DS child Palin suffers delusions she can manitain martyrdom and sainthood which automatically qualifies her to lead a nation i.e. she is nutty as a fruit cake.

I do think Sarah Palin is guilty of a hoax. As a psychopath (whatever her condition) I doubt she feels guilt. It is hard to say what all her screech problems are. She may also be a substance abuser of many years, that would mess with her brain. Trig is a valuable prop and I can see why she keeps bringing him up, that is what her crowd wants to hear. Doesn't she pretty much give the same talk each time? It is crazy that she would make such a blunder. Was she reading from notes, the palm of her hand or other?

As a mother of three there is no way in hell that I would forget where my children were born.---------Exactly! My three are all grown up now, and I remember exactly where they were born. I also know where my granddaughters were born. Moms and grannies remember those little details.

Excellent Gryphen! And I am not going with the idea that she is trying to fix the story up a bit to make it more believable. She wouldn't have the gaul to try to change such an important detail.

This is a break! This is something that can be taken to the public and with a little gentle persuasion it can be talked about to the media. Now don't let go of it until it falls off the rails completely. We knowing now that attacking motherhood is not working, this is one of the best hopes of bringing this lying bitch's deception to the public's attention.

And why does she bring any of it up right now. Obviously because she is afraid of her lies coming back to haunt her somewhere down the road to the presidency.

After reading the posts here i have also come to the conclusion. This United States of America could only be run by "sick,bigoted,delusional,amoral,narcissistic,evil,conceited,liar's and criminals. Lady's and gentlemen i give you the government of the United States of America. Sarah is just looking for a crowd she can hang with.

It's interesting to me that the audience chuckles at the "funny" story of Todd and Sarah Palin attempting a mad dash back to Alaska while she is in labor with a six week premature Downs baby who was not only quite premature, but had a 50% chance of being born with a heart defect.

The woman certainly has a talent. Not sure what it is, but it does kind of remind me of a certain former German Leader.

PS Do Real Alaskans ever use the term "Sourdough" (outside of something like "Hey, you wanna meet at the Sourdough Mining Company for brunch?) in this day and age? I'm pretty sure that if I made a comment that included the word Sourdough in it, my friends and family would all burst out laughing at me.

Keep pointing out the cracks, Gryphen. Of course, she wouldn't have forgotten where her baby was born, but neither would she have flown from Dallas to Anchorage after her water broke -- with Todd's cooperation, no less.

At this point, I don't believe she shot a caribou. I don't believe she graduated from college. I don't believe a G--D-- thing this woman says.

Either somebody witnessed the then Governor Sarah Palin of the Great State of Alaska giving birth in a Anchorage hospital or Sarah the Great White Illegal Caribou Hunter squatted down with a piece of bark in her mouth next to a runnin' crick shaded by the big tree with its limbs reaching out to nurture the Palin preemie. Sarah, it is just a matter of time before somebody comes forward.

Dorian M, I hear you. The lies seem way too blatant; almost intentional. I thought the same thing about the most recent Bristol pregnancy rumors. I was wondering if the rumors were spread by Sarah and/or Bristol themselves, so they could prove that rumor wrong, thereby "proving" every other rumor wrong. Kind of like how Bristol's pregnancy with Tripp supposedly proved Sarah gave birth to Trig.

Anon 7:43PM, you asked why would Sarah fake the pregnancy in the first place. I'm just guessing but here goes:

I believe that the national underground religious mafia (Focus on the Family, Franklin Graham, et. al.) were grooming Sarah for a future in government to enact whatever moral laws they wanted enacted. This underground religious club helped her become mayor and governor.

When Sarah was Governor, Bristol turned up pregnant with a Down's Syndrome baby. Palin didn't want the shame since she had plans to advance her career riding on a platform of family values. Since Bristol/Levi were too young to care for the child, Sarah decided to adopt it but make the deal worth her while. She hid Bristol away from the public so no one would know she was pregnant. Sarah pretended to be pregnant when Bristol was almost due. Sarah didn't bother to fake it "too much" before the announcement because Bristol's baby might not have come to term. Once Sarah announced she was pregnant, Sarah used a pillow and made her cover story reasonable by occasionally getting photographed "pregnant".

Bristol gave birth unexpectedly while Sarah was in Texas so Sarah and Todd had to run home. Sarah made up an heroic story (stories) to wow her fans and boost her image in the religious mind-set (choosing to save her Down's Syndrome baby; what a wonderful, selfless mother; she can handle being a governor and mother at the same time; etc.). Well, she had bigger things in mind than the measly old governorship of Alaska.

But, Sarah shouldn't have let Levi sleep over because Bristol got pregnant again (It happens more often than you'd think.). Sarah must have hit the roof because now she was in the very same position as before with people possibly criticizing her lack of family values and parental oversight. No way to cover it up this time.

Enter John McCain and the rest of the story is well documented. Sarah's medical records consisted of a single letter from her doctor which I don't believe was actually signed. The doc stated that she delivered Trig.

Belated thought: Sarah complicated her story by definitively saying that labor started in Texas. Her other accounts backed off from saying that it was real labor to avoid criticism for taking the flights back to AK.

Here she emphasized labor: shortened her speech (the important one she was so determined to give); rushed out of the conference at the end of her speech; Todd's hurrying her; she tells Perry she's going to have the baby.

Many women go on bedrest to attempt to prevent a preterm delivery; Sarah could give a care. So much for her deep love for the baby. She can't even make up a story that shows love and responsibility.

Gryph - It's being reported by commenters on PG that the video of this speech being shown at C4P has now been "cleansed" of the "born in Anchorage" comment. Isn't that pretty damning evidence that they know their Queen just screwed up royally? But the best part is they are the ones who aired the video in the first place! "Hoisted by her own petard", so to speak. I refuse to go over there, so I can't verify the "erasure" personally.

This isn't about Sarah having a bad memory - it's about the power trip she's on. She has gotten away with virtually every lie she's told, and is especially proud of the deception she pulled off when she faked Trig's birth. She knows no matter what she says, no one in the media will challenge her. She is getting more bold and cocky all the time. She keeps talking about "the wild ride" like she's rubbing it in "the haters" faces.

Just a couple of things--1. Sarah is not a detail person. This is obvious by her physical appearance (the unkempt hair & wildly varying personal styles she presents), and her speeches & television appearances. She speaks in generalities, & it's easy to see that details are not important to her, so she will probably not even address the discrepancies in her birth story. They do not register with her. 2. Sarah never admits to being wrong or making a mistake. Every time she has been called out on a lie, she doubles down. She was found to have "abused power" in Troopergate, but according to her, she was "exonerated" and "there was no abuse of power." She claimed the exact opposite of what the report said, and totally got away with it. Same for death panels. Same for the bridge to nowhere lie. She just keeps repeating the lies, even when they have been pointed out. 3. She used to carefully parse her words with the Trig story, but after she fully committed to it, no holds barred. It used to be "of course I'm Trig's mom", but she has now doubled down on the birth story. 4. For anyone who thinks she was "off the radar" for the VP nomination, one of the first things she did once she became governor was to hire a PR firm to give her a national presence. Her nomination was in the works for a long time, even though most of America didn't know who she was. This is someone who told people as far back as 1996 that she wanted to be President.

These are things a mother (or father) doesn't forget. The hospital you had your baby in, or the city...And, what is with the retelling of this story over and over again? I have done a great deal of sharing (speeches, visits to groups, writing) about having a son with a disability and cannot once recall adding the fact that he was born in a state of emergancy snow storm to the story. What does the snowstorm have to do with the disability? Nothing. She keeps telling it because she knows it's a LIE. A big fat LIE that she cannot get out of her gulity mind, so it's always there, the paranoia that someone is questioning and doubting so she has to keep retelling and reassuring... I think her pants are on fire. Again.

Perhaps someone could request a list of all doctors on duty in the early morning hours of April 18, 2010 at Mat Su. It is a publicly funded entity and therefore subject to POIA and Alaska Public Records disclosure.

Such a list is arguably not invasive of the privacy of a single individual. (Medical records are exempted under the APR Act.)

That way we would know exactly which category of medical specialist was active and on duty that night/day.

To ad to my former comment- Why doesn't she address her sons special needs? What are they? What services does he require? Things like that... that's what parents talk about when they are the "face" of some disability or another. And what mother has a baby at 7.5 weeks, brings him home and goes back to work? Even if she did have the child, what loving caring parent would do that?

I think Sarah is finally starting to come clean, at least partially. Trig may have been born in Anchorage, a few weeks or months before, the Texas repugnant governor's oil conference, before Sarah starting faking the pregnancy. Sarah couldn't bring Trig out into the world until AFTER that important Texas meeting. Soon she will confess that she had to make that meeting so she could save the world, so she kept the birth a secret. She'll note that Trig was in ICU, anyway, and that's why she made her Texas stay as brief as possible. (What a heroine!) As a result of this confession, Trig's date and place of birth will match that of the one on his birth certificate. (If adopted, parent's names will also match.)After this "Checkers" speech the ony issue left will be is Sarah the birth mother and is Todd the father.Brilliant strategy!Not only that, but this will explain why she was never at work during this time.

I think the VF article re: baby in carriage not being Trig and further information about this adopted child has opened a window. Adoption..and maybe Native Alaskan Indian babies are funneled thru a Church oriented adoption agency.

So Trig "...came so early at 7 1/2 months ... and she had him in Anchorage". And then she drug a premature, DS baby, who was jaundiced and had a whole in his heart, born at 7.5 months to her office on the third day.

I think she's just messing with folks now. She believes no one will call BS on the story nationally, and she likes making heads spin. Someone's checking the blogs for her today, and they're laughing at people's reactions. Yes, she is that sick.

She thinks she's gotten away with it---whatever "it" winds up being. I don't know what the truth is, but there was NO WAY she was in labor that day.

Putting on a coat & other winter clothing makes a pregnant woman look even BIGGER. The only women who can successfully hide pregnancies are women who are naturally large anyway. Palin does not fall into that category. She looked no different in a coat (or with no coat) than any other non-pregnant woman!

This woman just cannot help but take her biggest lie (the dog that should be left sleeping) and run it up the flag pole again,and again, so as to rub the fact in our faces that she can with impunity lay it before us again and again,and not suffer for it.It has been put forth many times that the key to blowing up this perpetual story surrounding the birth of this child, exists somewhere in Alaska.My question to whoever holds this information is this."How much damage are you willing to allow this woman to do to the political system in our country, before you decide to come forward and release us from this treachery?Do you not realize the stakes? Are you so scared, and/or selfish that you are willing to allow her to destroy the system? Where is your conscience? Where is you patriotism? Please,come forward, for all our sakes."

I've read the Trig stories for so long my head is spinning (which puts me in the same boat with Sarah and that is not where I want to be).

If we assume Bristol did not give birth to Trig, is it still possible that she was sent away to recover from her mono (who does that, by the way...send a sick child to a relative...seriously?) i.e. hide a pregnancy of another baby. Suppose Sarah already concocted the DS baby story and her hidden pregnancy and when Bristol's baby sadly did not survive, Sarah found another baby to "have" as her own?

I had a 9lb 2oz baby who didn't look as chunky as Trig's "just born premie" photo.

I think someone is putting pressure on Sarah's story. It would not surprise me if she planned the whole "coming out" party so that she will look like the martyr...pretending to have a baby to protect him from being aborted. She was desperate and had no choice is what the bots will claim and she'll be held in higher esteem for it. Sick stuff we're dealing with...

I don't think we've seen Trig because he has grown and no longer looks "his age"...whatever that may be in the storyline.

Even in a Sarah friendly crowd of blue-haired pro-lifers, there were very notable gasps when Sarah claimed she hid her pregnancy for seven months.

I've got to think that there are a few grandmas in that audience that must think that's a little far fetched. As this fairytale gets embellished, little by little, more and more of her disciples MAY begin to realize Sarah might be a crazy liar...we can only hope.

I agree with the other posters...why doesn't Sarah ever talk about the joys and challenges of being a parent of a DS child? Why doesn't she speak for DS foundations, charities or special needs schools and learning programs?Most likely because she really doesn't parent him at all.

Her handlers and inside pollsters have told her that she needs to try and convince people of her story, because what they've done so far isn't working. It is obviously becoming more of an issue that even a billion Koch dollars can't fix. ps: why is the RNC paying the flea for sarah's legal bills from her ethics complaints? I thought she had some super-legal super fund to help with that. Any idea Gryphen?

Since she keeps bringing Trig up, it begs the question as to how life for a busy VIP family handles the special needs of a growing DS child.

When an earnest question came from a bot supporter on RAM's forum, RAM asked her what she was insinuating. That's pretty defensive for what is being paraded as a self-less and sacrificing mother.

It's a valid question, especially since Sarah bragged to the pro-life world that being a special needs mama made her an expert on the special needs community. How? She hasn't created a non-profit advocacy organization. She's donated a paltry $1,000 (from her PAC no-less, not even her own pocketbook?) let a special needs clinic shut down in her own home-town, how involved is she in Trig's treatment and care?

Remember that ridiculous interview on the bus of her book tour where the camera 'happened' to catch her just sitting there reading a large book to Trig - just throwing the pages so fast that she wasn't even reading? It was a pathetic act, "Look how involved I am with my son. . ."

The point is, even with the parents of the Alaskan special needs community were skeptical and critical of Sarah's touted virtue of being a SN advocate when she was just a newbie in the field, not even challenged with the care, hurdles and education yet.

But that is Sarah for you, expertise by association. Even if she did just adopt / inherit the baby for the invaluable exploitable benefit.

As with her acceptance to the VP running-mate position, she had no idea what she was getting herself into - consequences be damned. I think many of her decisions on the record alarmed many insiders, especially what she kept from her family.

That she plays this, a family who prays, fasts and decide together act is nauseating - being that she kept her pretend pregnancy a secret for as long as seven months (because Trig's arrival / birth date was acknowledged and her plan was hatching?) to not only her family but her staff and constituents, and the fact that he was DS, accepted McCain's offer without pause or telling her family. . .

I think it's a deliberate attempt to redefine her narrative as she prepares to run in 2012. And I'm sure the bots know all the stories related to the miraculous birth of Trig, but they seem to willingly accept tweeks/lies to the story. It's because the Palin myth isn't about truth for them. I am sure we'll start hearing tweeks about Tracks service, Bristols babies, Willows issues, and Piper the honor student.

I think Mittens will eat her alive. In addition to having crap loads of money for research and palin dirt digging, Mitt as a father of five would obviously know that the wild ride story is a bunch of bullshit.

I agree with some of the posters above that no real damage would be done if it was revealed that Bristol is Trig's biological mother. The Fundies would eat that shit up and elevate Sarah to their version of sainthood.

The real issue would be if Trig belonged to someone else, and was "appropriated" to create the perfect prop child for Miss Thing to haul around the campaign trail like a sack of potatoes. If so, who/where is his real mother? Anchorage? Has anyone checked the birth records at that hospital?

I think if she was covering for Bristol, she would have admitted it already to great fanfare, and the sheeple would be falling at her feet in a worshipful frenzy.

The thing that's notable about this speech is not that her facts keep changing (7.5 months, Anchorage), but how well crafted it is. Listen to it (if you can). It's professionally written speech. The line about Abraham and Sarah, for instance, is genuinely funny.

So Palin is delivering a neatly packaged stump speech, geared toward a hard-right, Christianist audience. One she absolutely did not write herself. That's not surprising. That's politics.

What's weird -- really weird -- is that she's transformed the story of Trig -- the surprise pregnancy, the Wild Ride -- into smooth patter, played for laughs. Listen to the line about the Trig Truthers: "They don't believe Trig is my baby because I was only pregnant for two and a half weeks." Badda bing. Badda boom. She's finally telling something like the truth, but she's playing it for laughs. It's like she's detoxifying the damning truth by turning it into a Toastmasters version of a stand-up routine.

Some days I lose hope anyone will ever take her down. Like "Dick" Cheney, she can lie with a straight face - even when she is presented with recorded evidence that she said one thing, she claims she never said it or just makes it into something it's not.

Crosses fingers, asks the Universe for some help in stopping the Scarah train and hopes for the best.

IF ... and I still say it's a big IF ... she has does attempt to run in '12, she will not even make it out of the starting gate. Too many powerful conservative groups are already done with her, and since the bloggers have DONE ALL THE WORK, she will be taken down in a matter of minutes.

of course, she'll dangle the carrot of the presidential run for as long as it brings in cash.

here is my theory...Bristol had her baby early, say, Jan/Feb, this is the baby (finally released from the hospital) in the kitchen photos with Mercede, and at the shower (which was held earlier than stated.) The baby pictured with the Heaths at the hospital is much larger than the "kitchen" photos, just look at how many hands long each is. Perhaps someone can get a clear close up of the calendar on the cabinet in the background, of the photo with the footprints on it. This baby looks to be FAS, and has a distinct ear deformity. I don't believe this baby is the Trig we know today, and is not a child Bristol gave birth to. It seems probable that he was ready to be presented and Sarah thought a middle of the night "delivery" wouldn't be questioned. Sarah wanted to adopt baby 1, and Bristol and Levi were not in agreement. When something happened to/with baby 1, Sarah and her Christian mafia found a substitute, maybe from the same agency as her friends who adopted a DS baby? Bristol had her first baby commandeered from her, so she got pregnant again, which was when Levi was living at the Palin's.What happened to baby 1? Who gave birth to Trig? We'll probably never know. I believe the current strategy has been in place for a while, hence the intentional verbal mis-steps, "blurring the edges..."thx CGinWI. Sarah (Lady Blah Blah) will finally admit the "truth" and spin it like cotton candy. She will say Trig was Bristol's and she did what any mother would do. The truth, then must come out so we can finally prove she took possession of this child (Trig) as a strategy crafted by the Christian mafia to enthrall and engage her pro life base.

Could we not take the matter to a court and file a charge saying that we believed that Sarah Kidnapped her Trig; and then she will have to go to court and perform a DNA test to prove that she is the mother of Trig.

The evidence we would have is what is being said on all the blogs.

We could make a case on behalf of Trig; we suspect that he is a victim of kidnaping.

We have to prove our case, and she will have to prove her case as well.

Star magazine is running a story in this weeks edition about Bristol possibly having a breast reduction. Obv taking this with a grain of salt bc it is STAR, but I am more concerned with the “before” pic. They say, perhaps they are just comparing a pic of a pregnant Bristol with a pic of non-pregnant Bristol; problem is the “before” pic is their Christmas card outside taking in the fall of 2007…where she is wearing the black dress.

She didn't just change her story about the place of birth, she also stated she keep putting on more coats. Her usual story was she wore scarf's to cover because she was not very big. I think Bristol gave birth in December because if I remember Patrick said she went back to school in January after her 5 months of Mono, to a very premmie baby. The baby being Trig, was in the hospital until April 18th and was released. That is when Sarah became the mother.

Normal gestation is 40 weeks, with a range of 38 to 42 considered normal. Anything before 38 weeks is considered premature.

According to CBJ's letter, Trig was born at 35 weeks. That would make him 8 months along, instead of the 7 1/2 months that Sarah is now claiming. And, it certainly makes him premature. He always was considered a high risk baby because, according to Sarah, he had been diagnosed with DS before birth.

It 's strange that Sarah even got the hospitals where Trig was born mixed up. The papers reported Wasilla. And, a premature infant is not released after 3 days, and taken to an office full of people.

Maybe Sarah forgot her own true story, which is unbelievable in itself. It is the only thing that defines Sarah and spells out her right-to-life credentials. To go into labor at 7 1/2 months, leaking amniotic fluid, is even more risky that her version at 8 months.

When there are too many versions of a story that never made any sense in the first place, then the story cannot be believed.

I think that something happens to compulsive liars when they start telling their wild tales. When the audience gasped at Sarah's latest version of hiding her pregnancy until 7 months when she announced it, Sarah needed to keep juicing up the story to get a bigger reaction from the crowd. She lost control; she needed a bigger gasp and more oooohs and applause. She may have overblown an already unbelievable story to the point of ridiculous. With premature high risk babies, there is a big difference between 7 1/2 months and 8 months. She want to get an even bigger gasp, so she over played her hand. She can't help herself. Her "brand" is build on a tissue of lies.

If Trig was a 7 1/2 month premie, with DS, He would have been about 2or 3lbs at birth. The baby gain their weight during the 8th month. Trig would had stayed in the hospital for a least a month before going home. I believe Trig was born around 1st or 2nd week in March 2008 and had to stay in the hosital for about 4 or 5 weeks before going home. So, Bristol may have given birth to Trig...

I believe someone at Mat Su Regional hospital is about to expose Sarah. They know Trig was not born in their hospital. So now she have to think of another place. Trig, could have been transfer to Mat Su Regional from Anchorage after he was born,to be closer to home, but wasn't born there. It also explain why Sarah had to rush home from Texas to AK. The baby was ready to go home and she had to be there to take the baby home from the hospital.

The truth will come out and remember I was the one who told you :=) LOL

When all this comes out, Sarah will definitely play the "I was only trying to protect my daughter and save Trig from being aborted" card. She will play this card whether or not Bristol is the mother of Trig because it's the one that will give HER the most sympathy (who cares that she will be throwing her daughter to the wolves).

And there will be people who will continue to support her, even those who will love her MORE because of it.

But, sane people will realize that this is a woman who LIED to the state of Alaska (not to mention the country) about being pregnant and giving birth. She wore a fake belly, she pretended to breast feed, she snarled at anyone and everyone who doubted her, all the while letting the world believe that her amazing pregnancy and delivery story and her motherhood made her some kind of superwoman.

This is a woman who only months after "delivering" Trig (to protect her daughter, she will say), trotted her pregnant daughter literally onto the national stage.

This is a woman who milked her pregnancy, labor, and delivery for everything it was worth to gain sympathy, take pot shots at everyone else, and make A LOT of money (not to mention to shield her from any and all criticism).

This is a woman who claims to be a great mother, yet will ultimately admit that her teenage daughter got pregnant TWICE in rapid succession. This is a MOTHER who didn't even blink" when asked to join McCain on the ticket and exposed her troubled daughter to the scrutiny of the world at a time when that daughter needed the emotional support of BOTH of her parents. (of course, in true Palin-Heath form, Bristol is now exploiting her own pregnancy and baby).

Rather than keeping her mouth shut and letting it remain a family matter, Sarah shrieks her story from the rooftops every chance she gets. She will do the same thing when she is exposed as a liar and a fraud. She will get sympathy from some people, but there will be way more people who see her as the hypocrite and horrible mother we all know her to be.

I had a kid who was born one week early. She weighed 6 pounds 15 ounces. I, however, had gained a whopping 50 pounds. Maybe Sarah has the ability to control baby weight gain. Maybe she's a walking miracle. She was probably able to will her body to gain weight only in her stomach five days before Trig was born. And when her water broke in Texas, she was able to Kegel her way back to Alaska, and no one was the wiser.

I was pregnant during the winter in the Northeast. Not as cold as Alaska, granted, but cold enough that I had to wear a heavy down coat. I'm 5'8", slender, and only gained 17 pounds (because I had daylong sickness nearly the entire pregnancy). I also delivered 3 weeks early and it was my first pregnancy. I'm an athlete and have very tight abs. :-)

I can assure you that even with my height, relatively minor weight gain, and heavy coat, I looked VERY pregnant for the last several months of pregnancy. People opened doors for me and smiled at my belly. Once, a man behind yelled out "I'll get that!" and grabbed the door. I was curious so I asked him how he knew I was pregnant when he was behind me. He said, "You walk like you are." And that was when I was only 6 months along.

I don't buy for a second that SP's co-workers would not have guessed she was pregnant if indeed she had been.

And no adult in her right mind giggles over hiding a pregnancy. Sheesh.

Baby Saby. Who can count them all? Sure the truth will come out but not in our lifetimes. Lighten up on you future prez wannabee. It is time to dance and ponder when Bristol had best reduction surgery and how she parlayed that into a fake job.

Anon 3:25 AM, you suggested that someone could request a list of all doctors on duty in the early morning hours of April 18, 2010 at Mat Su...

That ain't gonna be easy 'cuz Wasilla ain't a normal place.

Let me try and describe that Dreamland. First, realize there is an ever-so-real, tight-knit group of religious warriors who live there. They're everywhere and nowhere. They are Sarah's people. There is a definite sense of "us" and "them". The communal aim is to get the "us" into political positions of power. The ends justify the means.

When Sarah was Mayor, she controlled everything and everyone. When Sarah was Governor, she controlled everything and everyone.

She surrounds herself with her people. They're family, friends, church-goers, Governor, Attorney General, many city and state employees, the Republican candidate for US Senate, board members of the Mat-Su hospital, judges, people at the local newspaper, etc. She had a hand in or directly placed her people in their positions. She blatantly gave jobs to her unqualified friends. They had to be religious and pro-life. She fired anyone she didn't like. Her people are still there in those positions.

Her people are loyal to her and do not offer information or, if they must, give the minimum amount possible.

Sarah had power and she used it to her personal advantage. That included: trying to fire her ex-brother-in-law; making certain documentation "disappear" like birth certificates*; making records inaccessible that described her kids' (Track/Bristol/Willow) bad behavior (vandalism/drinking/sassing teachers/drugs/choice of Army or jail); making public documents that dealt with her personal exploits "government-sensitive" so they still cannot be released or are so redacted they cannot be read; etc.

If you asked to see that Mat-Su doctors on duty list, you'd likely get a sideways glance with eyes that squinted at you. You'd probably leave empty-handed and Sarah would find out about it. Not worth trying.

Get the picture?

Some of her people are now under the bus. We're hoping they'll spill the beans at some point. It would be worth a lot of money to publishers.

*When Trig was born the state wanted his birth certificate for insurance reasons. After repeated requests, Todd "called", gave the birth info over the phone, and that verbal info was evidently accepted by the state.

Anon 3:25 AM, you suggested that someone could request a list of all doctors on duty in the early morning hours of April 18, 2010 at Mat Su...

That ain't gonna be easy 'cuz Wasilla ain't a normal place.

Let me try and describe that Dreamland. First, realize there is an ever-so-real, tight-knit group of religious warriors who live there. They're everywhere and nowhere. They are Sarah's people. There is a definite sense of "us" and "them". The communal aim is to get the "us" into political positions of power. The ends justify the means.

When Sarah was Mayor, she controlled everything and everyone. When Sarah was Governor, she controlled everything and everyone.

She surrounds herself with her people. They're family, friends, church-goers, Governor, Attorney General, many city and state employees, the Republican candidate for US Senate, board members of the Mat-Su hospital, judges, people at the local newspaper, etc. She had a hand in or directly placed her people in their positions. She blatantly gave jobs to her unqualified friends. They had to be religious and pro-life. She fired anyone she didn't like. Her people are still there in those positions.

Her people are loyal to her and do not offer information or, if they must, give the minimum amount possible.

Sarah had power and she used it to her personal advantage. That included: trying to fire her ex-brother-in-law; making certain documentation "disappear" like birth certificates*; making records inaccessible that described her kids' (Track/Bristol/Willow) bad behavior (vandalism/drinking/sassing teachers/drugs/choice of Army or jail); making public documents that dealt with her personal exploits "government-sensitive" so they still cannot be released or are so redacted they cannot be read; etc.

If you asked to see that Mat-Su doctors on duty list, you'd likely get a sideways glance with eyes that squinted at you. You'd probably leave empty-handed and Sarah would find out about it. Not worth trying.

Get the picture?

Some of her people are now under the bus. We're hoping they'll spill the beans at some point. It would be worth a lot of money to publishers.

*When Trig was born the state wanted his birth certificate for insurance reasons. After repeated requests, Todd "called", gave the birth info over the phone, and that verbal info was evidently accepted by the state.

"As much as I despise this woman, I still do not have a clear picture as to why she would create a fake pregnancy in the first place."

it's very simple. Her 16 year old daughter had a baby. This would not sit well with the 'abstinence only' crowd. She knew people were talking about it and was afraid people might see the baby at the castle. She invented her pregnancy story to deflect.

Group photo of a Fly Catcher Convention in Wasilla! Posted by Mark Ballas. He is also shown with that lady that doesn't comb her hair and sleeps in her clothes. The Greta interview must have taken it's toll on her. Yesterday Wasilla"Bristol and Mark speaking to the crowd and the media"I had no idea how HUGE this is for Alaska. "Bristol and Mark speaking to the crowd and the media"From the album:Dance Bristol Dance #2 Sept 22, 2010 by Dance Bristol DanceMost of the girls attend the dance studio where Bristol and Mark were practicingPhotos: Julie Gillette

This is called "how to frame a story" or "getting in front of a story" or in this case "how to get in front of a lie". Prime example "the David Letterman sex scandal".

Visiting Iowa, political speeches with all the same talking points, bashing our president at every opportunity, limiting media access, etc. is all leading to an announcement of something. If that something is a presidential race then framing the lies out there is very important.

Have you seen the new pictures of Bristol with her dancing partner up in Alaska? Bristol's stomach is suddenly MUCH flatter--it looks as if she's lost 20 pounds of stomach flab since her appearance last week. WTF is up with these Palin women and their shifting stomachs?

If Gryphen and Levi are right and Trig is not Bristol's baby, then what did happen to Bristol's first baby? (the one whose delivery gave her instant "Breast reduction surgery") Did it die? Did it have FAS, thus making it impossible for Sarah to claim as her own?

Right now, I'm thinking that Sarah announced she was pregnant in order to cover for Bristol's pregnancy, but then either Bristol's baby was born with FAS, or died. By that point Sarah was already launched into her fake pregnancy. She then gets the great idea from her friend "Dr." Gina Whatshername to adopt a DS baby, only she'll go one better and pretend to give birth to it, thus spinning the whole "I chose life and didn't abort this baby" angle for all it's worth.

The problem I see with this scenario, however, is that Trig has Sarah's weird right ear, which means that the baby must be related in some way. Surely there weren't two Heath babies floating around at the same time?

Gryphen, any chance that your source simply isn't in the know, even tho he might think he is? If Bristol's baby were born very premature, that might be part of the explanation. Then the baby could be Bristol's, and the DS simply wasn't discovered until shortly before it was released from the NICU.

She is a liar. My children are 29 and 35. I remember where they were born, how much they weighted, what hospital, ( different ones), and the time of each of their births. Liar! When will she be called out? Even if she had the baby which I don't believe, her story of the wild ride was irresponsible.

With so much for you to do as it is, I hate to bring this up, BUT. Some of the topic (I'm kidding, almost all of the topics) you post bring about responses that I would really like to be able to make comment on directly. Further down the thread posting the time stamp doesn't quite get it. So my question is this; What is the prospect of you enlisting the services of some computer nerd (and I mean that most respectfully) to set your site up so as to be able to accommodate such a set up?I think if people could comment directly, especially when trolls do show up, the banter on the site would be even more entertaining.That's my two cents, Thanx.If anyone else agrees, by all means post your thoughts. Same goes if you don't.

About being born early, my child was born at 36 weeks (6 pounds, 7 ounces) and had trouble eating and regulating his body temperature--and he was (and is) a perfectly health child. We spent 4 days in the hospital, and he lost a whole lot of weight before we went home. We were told to be careful and to only take him to the doctor because he shouldn't be around people until he was older (I think when he was about a month old). And remember, this was a healthy child.

Because he had trouble eating, we had to take him to the doctor several times the first few weeks to make sure he was gaining ok. Also, because he was early, he had issues with colic and sleep. The kid didn't sleep and he cried constantly. This has to do with being outside the womb too early--usually goes away once they hit their due date. He didn't really stop crying until he was about a month old. You don't know exhaustion until you are breastfeeding a baby who takes 45 mintues to eat (feeding problems) and has to begin to eat a meal every 2-3 hours. On top of that--the crying. I got NO SLEEP in the first months and I wasn't able to take the baby to go out and visit people even if I had been allowed to.

On the ultrasound issue: I'm an older mom (in the mid-30s) and was considered high-risk. I had a super-duper ultrasound in a special center where they went over EVERYTHING that could be wrong. I had both a tech and a doctor. The doctor was a specialist at reading high-risk ultrasounds. I'm just an "average-joe" and I'm sure this is standard. I tell you, when somebody asks me about ultrasounds, I talk about this one and how much they tried to scare me--it was way different than the normal ultrasounds in the way they checked and rechecked everything and in how they counsel you before the exam (and scare the crap out of you).

Also, I tried to hide the fact I was pregnant until after the first trimester (we were worried because I was older), but anybody who saw me guessed--it was, way obvious. Most people told me what gave it away was my boob size. I was large to begin with, but when I first got pregnant, they really swelled up.

I can't think of any woman who'd be back to work with a three-day-old premature, sickly baby in tow. By day 3, you're still giving your bottom Sitz baths. Breast-feeding is still hit or miss and moms are encouraged to nap when the baby naps. Sore breasts, sore bottom, breastfeeding every two hours, poor sleeping habits (for mom and baby)... Again, what woman in her right mind is carting around a 3-day-old premature baby in the workplace?

Her Long Con is to keep spewing lies so that it will confuse everyone, hence the mainstream media too fearful to investigate and expose 'babygate'...and all the other 'gates'..."They are attacking me on personal issues, not the REAL issues"yadayadayada. When really, they are crooks/cons of the lower echelon, aka white trash, thinking, hey if all these old white guys can get away with it, I can too!!! Unfortunately, it is working so far! We cannot get rid of these 'fucking retarded' women hijacking the GOP (and the GOP deserves it for thinking with their 'little' heads).

Shit, only Bristle and Willow are Todd & Scarah's...

So she is Sarah Health Menard Palin Hanson as far as I can tell...

She is lying her ASS OFF everyday and laughing all the way too the bank.

You made your bed GOP: Now you lie in it. I can only HOPE this sends the Independents voting with the Dems come election time.

My 7 and a half month preemie weighed in just under three pounds and was "appropriate for gestational age." In other words, my "appropriately" sized preemie weighed less than half of Tri-G's alleged birth weight.

My child was in the NICU for 2 1/2 months afterward which is typical for a baby that premature. Our homecoming pictures look similar to the pictures of "Ruffles." (BTW, I doubt that "Ruffles" died -- he (assuming it's a "he") actually looks strong for a preemie just home from the NICU.

If she had the baby in Wasilla when she said and she wasn't actually pregnant, that and other details we all have discussed, including the false id for the Amnio and what that means to physician and hospital records, then St. Sarah the Grizzley of False Witness has put her Wasilla physician, and hospital in a really terrible position.

If she wasn't pregnant and did not give birth in Wasilla (incidently the birth cert will tell which hospital, date, physician etc.) but her physician says she was pregnant and did give birth and those entries either are in or are not in Sarah's medical records the physician who falsified those records is looking at a serious possible medical malfeasance charge and lose of license.

Same for the hospital, the Amnio clinic, reference lab, lab techs, the nurses etc. So maybe Sarah thinks she can defect pressure from her local Md and hospital to the bigger institution with an unnamed ER physician.But all the same problems remain.If she was pregnant she behaved in ways that endangered the fetus, if she wasn’t then the hospitals and Mds cannot back her up and she is a big fat liar.

In any case, I guarantee, she did not get the Amnio done under a false name unless the test was ordered under the name Sarah Heath, and that would make the ordering physician complicit in falsifying medical records. Unless she got the order from someone other than her Wasilla Md. and that Md. did not know she was Sarah Palin governor of Alaska.Either way the Amnio story goes, Sarah lied about it.

If you keep pushing this story there is the probability that Sarah will eventually have to back out of her lies, because so many professional people are implicated in the lies, but who are not implicated if there was no pregnancy and no delivery. Sarah puts those people’s professional reputations and possibly their careers in jeopardy with her lies.

Those in the medical community who might know are probably being asked, and offered money to tell, over and over, and will continue to be as long as Sarah is a national figure. Eventually one of more of them is likely to come forward and say No Sarah did not have a baby on the date claimed. I (We) have not records of a birth or pregnancy.

That, I believe, would not be in violation of HIPAA laws, as it does not reveal personal medical information, as it would not claim either that she was or was not pregnant and delivered at that institution by that physician, only that she did not come to that institution and was not a patient of that physician on that date.

If you keep pushing this story there is the probability that Sarah will eventually have to back out of her lies, because so many professional people are implicated in the lies, but who are not implicated if there was no pregnancy and no delivery. Sarah puts those people’s professional reputations and possibly their careers in jeopardy with her lies.

Those in the medical community who might know are probably being asked, and offered money to tell, over and over, and will continue to be as long as Sarah is a national figure. Eventually one of more of them is likely to come forward and say No Sarah did not have a baby on the date claimed. I (We) have not records of a birth or pregnancy.

That, I believe, would not be in violation of HIPAA laws, as it does not reveal personal medical information, as it would not claim either that she was or was not pregnant and delivered at that institution by that physician, only that she did not come to that institution and was not a patient of that physician on that date.

I just had a thought that never occurred to me until now. Humor me by entertaining this...Bristol was said to have been sent to Aunt's house to live, right? What if AUNTIE was pregnant with a special needs child/high risk pregnancy and needed help with her other child/ren and Sarah wanted to adopt this child so she sent Bristol there to go to school and help out auntie? Am I waaaay too out there? Couldn't that also explain Bristol's comment about being a "mother hen to that duck"?JillinOH

It makes absolutely no sense to me that she would be saying she deliberately hid a pregnancy, which I'm sure in pro life circles is the proudest of moments, because somebody out there wouldn't approve. People hide things because of shame. Or fear. Or both shame AND fear.

Sarah's got big problems in the head, is all I can say. And on her good days, she must be on her corrective meds, which is why she sometimes talks a mile a minute. If this child really is hers, if she really was pregnant, then there could be other explanations for her paranoid behavior, such as Todd not being the father. I mean, maybe his is, but it's possible she had an affair and she's not positive he's Todd's. That would explain the shame, anyway. But the source of that could be any number of things. For an unwell person, you just keep reliving the same nightmares over and over, and new people in your life trigger them, and life events like birth, death, divorce, etc, trigger them also.

LOL now I am laughing at myself... I meant "mother duck to that baby" and after further thought I have more.Could Bristol have been pg, sent to Auntie's house because Auntie was also pg? So there were two babies, one with FAS (B's) and one with DS (Auntie's?) and SP swooped in to save the baby? I'm just trying to speak out instead of just simmering my own thoughts.

PS I have a 10yo daugther with DS so I know for a FACT that SP is not the mom, she has NO CLUE what she is talking about when she speaks about him and if he was truly hers she would be shouting from rooftops every time he met a milestone. National platform, not using it, does not compute to a REAL MOM with a special needs kid. We learn REALLY fast that we need to speak up/out/often!

Ok here's my version. Sarah is governor with three minor children and she gets pregnant.She is a high risk mother at age 43 or 44 and the amnio shows a serious genetic defect.

The story of Sarah sneeking into a clinic as Sarah Heath is when Sarah got her abortion. That clinic would accept her as Sarah Heath since no records of the abortion would be sent to Sarah Palin's physician.

Months later she as Gov and sex pot and far right pol gets the attention of people like Kristol, and the Gritch.

Esther can become queen if she plays it right.

Right doesn't include an abortion.The rest is BS. She and Todd hurriedly shop around and find a young unmarried girl and make a verbal agreement to adopt the child at the hospital the day it is born.The girl is about 6 months along and Sarah has to make herself look pregnant. Being vain she doesn't want to look bloated so the effect isn't convincing.

The reason she told no one she was pregnant, was because she had an abortion. Then she had to cover it up by producing a baby, on the chance someone might find out about or suspect the abortion.

The young mother gives birth to a DS child that is adopted basically sight unseen by the Palins.

@JillinOH: I have been thinking the same (I believe it was 'mother duck to that baby'), also considering that:

i) Mercede doesn't remember seeing Bristol pregnant at the time in question;ii) Bristol doesn't really look like a new mother in those Triggy-bear pics to me;iii) there was an anonymous comment here on IM a while ago that said that SP only wanted everyone to believe that Bristol is Trig's mother when in fact she isn't;iv) both Gryphen and commenters on other blogs said that the real story behind Trig is very sad;v) someone commented several times on Weigel's blog at The Washington Post that SP had a hysterectomy after Piper;vi) there are at least 3 babies involved--the original Trig, and the 2 DS babies (campaign and book-tour).

So, here is my theory: the original Trig (Triggy bear a.k.a. 'ruffled ears') was born to a member of SP's (extended) family as a result of something tragic and/or horrible. SP had to take care of the child because of the connection to her and decided that Bristol should be the 'mother duck'. But then she realized that this provided her with a great opportunity to prove her conservative family values. So, Bristol got off the hook and her mother took over (hence the 'short' pregnancy). But original Trig turned out to be very sick and too weak to be paraded around, plus if he really is a FAS baby many people would soon have recognised the signs and asked unwelcome questions. So, they had to look for a special needs baby she could use as a prop during the campaign. Original Trig is probably still part of the family, but still not doing too well (my guess, based on the lawn photo from those hacked emails).

So, sooner or later she will have to come clean about what really happened, at least in part, because she can't 'borrow' another DS baby simply because that baby would be too old for her to carry around and 'show off'.

Can someone explain why this issue makes one scintilla of a difference about anything for any reason? Geesh, it's like the flippin birthers on the other side.... But in this instance WHO CARES???? and why are you people harping about it this far after the fact?

If you don't like her politics or her stand on (real) issues -argue that - there's plenty of fodder there. This is just stupid.

maybe you don't have a problem with someone who fakes a pregnancy, but obviously there's a lot of people who do. it says a lot about someone's character that they would be willing to pull a hoax like that, and continue to tell lies about the circumstances of it. only a very sick person would do such a thing. that's why it matters.

The creepy thing about the birth of Trig is how early he was born. Six weeks early! My goodness we have come a long way since the days when babies born this early — especially boys — died. Jackie Kennedy gave birth to a premature son six weeks early and he died. Now I guess babies are sturdier. After all, Tri-G went to work with Sarah three days later!!!

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