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Wednesday, July 12, 2017

A Chinese wishful thinking! China can desire lots things that it wants from its neighbors but Indians are not to pushed over because China becomes stronger. If push comes to shove, India should use its lethal nukes to make sure that 1962 scenario does not repeat itself this time. Would China want to loose it all? I don't thinks so. India should work with Japan and makes sure they get the nukes too.

Is there real benefits knowing what Omar did or did not 1500 years ego? Did it benefit mankind or even the followers of Islam? History of Islam tells me, it is soaked with blood and conflict from the beginning of Islam, till today. All we see, where there is Muslim, there is problem, including the birthplace of Islam. Sorry, to disappoint many of you, who love to talk about Islam all day and night.

Story of savages with knives, daggers and swords! Is that the history of glorious Islam? Has it changed any bit since 7th century? Why discuss these Arabic savages than looking into our own past and be proud of own Sindhu/Indus heritage? Are Bangladeshi Muslims Arab descendants? Can people be so idiotic that they do not see any good in their own past but see greater glory with sword wielding Arabs and Bedouins? What a shame!

( When all decent muslim adhere to verse La Ikraha Fiddin, when Omar despised it enough to behead for demanding the rights from that edict.Because it unequivocally mandate freedom of beliefs, so with all with others that corroborates)

Hate to break it to you, but find zainul pretentious. He sugar coat katmullah position, just to get people drop their guard, exploiting people's good heart. From there it gets lot easier for katmullahs work on people. In short , he essentially belongs to the same pod as katmullahs.

I am secured in my position on Islam. And Willing not sell any garbage as God's word. Omar who was a drunkard himself for many years, claims to beheading his teen son, when was he the one who exposed son to that . If he really killed or spread the lies to create image that to impress, either way it was pungent , to say the least..

Prophet on his dead bed warned Omar against the lies he was spreading about him and religion. Omar was spreading , the kafirs belief of immortality as islamic. Prophet refused to appointment him or others to succeed, because Islam is not political decree to grab power, Allah doesn't need anybody to expand rule. As it is,everybody is already under his rule. It is kafir like thinking to demand one religion is must to make easy for God to rule. This rejection of verse La Ikraha Fiddin, in favor of kafir mandate of enforcing one belief , unfortunately pretty wide spread. No one is more responsible for that is Omar and his admirers.

Omar begging for his life to his slaver who turned on him for mistreatment. Slavery is affront to the notion of equality which is bedrock decree of Islam and any decency. So is concubine, but he flaunt these ethics, if your neighbor own slaves and concubine, would you ever consider approving any of family members marrying in n that family or that guy, if no, then it so divine practice for Omar.

Omar treated Jews better than others in later of life. He personally chased christaians away in Jerusalem, and participate personally in taking out garbage to make path for jews to go and pray. But by then not tolerating different beliefs became so big part of religion that still is plaguing it, giving upper hand to not so sophisticated on religion, and it benefited them at expense at expense of greater community.

Assalamu Alaikum, I do not reply to the pseudonyms because of their Satanic activities in disguise. I told once this KO that I will not reply to his retorts thogh sometimes look good. He had a dubious role at the beginning (sometimes good, sometimes bad). He once invited one bro. to contact him personally so that he can do some personal favor! Now, this KO has made it clear that he is someone who knows everything bad in Islam! I add: Hazrat Omar (RA) was so straightforward and uncompromising with Satanic matters that if Satan saw Omar (RA) coming, Satan ran away from that area! Zainul Abedin

Ranu Bhai, AWRB. Thank you for your valuable inputs. First of all, all the four Khalifa was closet friends of Prophet (SAW) and praised by Allah(SWT) for their honesty and integrity. So we no one to judge them. Besides as you mentioned, Omar (RA) was very straight forward and honest ruler. He was very hard working. There are numerous incidents, because of his humbleness, people embraced Islam.

Whatever little I know of Islamic history, Umar Ibn Khattab, the Second Caliph of Islam, was once a fierce opponent of Muhammad (SM) and his new faith (Islam). He was very literate but violent in nature and did openly whatever he believed in. Brandishing his sword, he was on his way to kill the Prophet. On the way, a friend informed him that he should first fix his house because his sister and her husband secretly embraced the new religion. Umar turned back and rushed to his sister, who and and her husband along with a few new converts, were reciting a newly revealed verse ( Sura Taha 81:1) at that moment. After a dramatic entry into the house, Umar demanded and listened to the verse, and his heart melted instantly. He rushed back to the Prophet, still with sword drawn, and declared his allegiance to the new faith. Umar's conversion to Islam was as dramatic as it was a new found strength among the Muslims. Unlike others, Umar made no secret of his conversion, and nobody dared to challenge him, mainly because of his nature and high family connections among Quraysh.

Though a little short tempered and strict ( he bet his own son to death for drinking wine), Umar was the most capable administrator among the Khulaf-e-Rashedeen. He is credited for maintaining unity within Islam, at times using autocratic measures, in the face of a growing factionalism within and outsied. Islamic empire saw huge expansion under his command, time, thanks mainly to a great general like Khalid Ibn Walid (whom he later fired suspecting his popularity and a threat in him). His greatest success was the breakup of Persio-Roman alliance and conquest of Persia. However, distractors found him to be very strict and unkind.

If some one fear Allah (swt) doesn't mean One have to sing praises for cruelties that Omar committed. When 1971 is so far off, then how narratives, supposedly from 1400 year ago are so authentic, is it because narrated in Arabic.

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Asian Human Rights Commission on Friday questioned the whole episode of abduction and rescue of poet, writer and researcher Farhad Mazhar, taking him in law enforcers' custody and the investigation and suspected that India's hand was in the abduction.

In a statement on Friday, the Hong Kong-based international rights organisation said, 'Farhad's abduction and attempted disappearance is a shocking example to the extreme level of threat to persons who dare to challenge the incumbent regime and India's role in Bangladesh's internal affair.'

AHRC raised seven questions and said that if the case was not investigated properly and the findings were not made public, 'this case too will remain as yet another proof to the allegation that it is not Dhaka that is in control of the affairs in Bangladesh, but it is New Delhi.'

AHRC also said that the detectives interrogated Farhad during which he was slapped, starved and was denied the presence of his lawyer.

'Despite the authorities been able to track Farhad's movement early on what prevented them from rescuing Farhad for 18 hours and until he was taken 300 kilometres away towards the Indian border,' AHRC asked.

'If Farhad's abduction was in fact carried out by some criminals, how was it possible for them to avoid RAB and police check points that are omnipresent in the country? Does it suggest that in fact the RAB or the police was behind the abduction', it said.

'Were the Indian agencies responsible for this abduction, as is believed by a substantial section of the country's population,' AHRC said.

AHRC said the statement by the home minister expressing concern about Farhad's case also suggests that the government of India was behind this case.

Is there real benefits knowing what Omar did or did not 1500 years ego? Did it benefit mankind or even the followers of Islam? History of Islam tells me, it is soaked with blood and conflict from the beginning of Islam, till today. All we see, where there is Muslim, there is problem, including the birthplace of Islam. Sorry, to disappoint many of you, who love to talk about Islam all day and night.

Story of savages with knives, daggers and swords! Is that the history of glorious Islam? Has it changed any bit since 7th century? Why discuss these Arabic savages than looking into our own past and be proud of own Sindhu/Indus heritage? Are Bangladeshi Muslims Arab descendants? Can people be so idiotic that they do not see any good in their own past but see greater glory with sword wielding Arabs and Bedouins? What a shame!

( When all decent muslim adhere to verse La Ikraha Fiddin, when Omar despised it enough to behead for demanding the rights from that edict.Because it unequivocally mandate freedom of beliefs, so with all with others that corroborates)

Hate to break it to you, but find zainul pretentious. He sugar coat katmullah position, just to get people drop their guard, exploiting people's good heart. From there it gets lot easier for katmullahs work on people. In short , he essentially belongs to the same pod as katmullahs.

I am secured in my position on Islam. And Willing not sell any garbage as God's word. Omar who was a drunkard himself for many years, claims to beheading his teen son, when was he the one who exposed son to that . If he really killed or spread the lies to create image that to impress, either way it was pungent , to say the least..

Prophet on his dead bed warned Omar against the lies he was spreading about him and religion. Omar was spreading , the kafirs belief of immortality as islamic. Prophet refused to appointment him or others to succeed, because Islam is not political decree to grab power, Allah doesn't need anybody to expand rule. As it is,everybody is already under his rule. It is kafir like thinking to demand one religion is must to make easy for God to rule. This rejection of verse La Ikraha Fiddin, in favor of kafir mandate of enforcing one belief , unfortunately pretty wide spread. No one is more responsible for that is Omar and his admirers.

Omar begging for his life to his slaver who turned on him for mistreatment. Slavery is affront to the notion of equality which is bedrock decree of Islam and any decency. So is concubine, but he flaunt these ethics, if your neighbor own slaves and concubine, would you ever consider approving any of family members marrying in n that family or that guy, if no, then it so divine practice for Omar.

Omar treated Jews better than others in later of life. He personally chased christaians away in Jerusalem, and participate personally in taking out garbage to make path for jews to go and pray. But by then not tolerating different beliefs became so big part of religion that still is plaguing it, giving upper hand to not so sophisticated on religion, and it benefited them at expense at expense of greater community.

Assalamu Alaikum, I do not reply to the pseudonyms because of their Satanic activities in disguise. I told once this KO that I will not reply to his retorts thogh sometimes look good. He had a dubious role at the beginning (sometimes good, sometimes bad). He once invited one bro. to contact him personally so that he can do some personal favor! Now, this KO has made it clear that he is someone who knows everything bad in Islam! I add: Hazrat Omar (RA) was so straightforward and uncompromising with Satanic matters that if Satan saw Omar (RA) coming, Satan ran away from that area! Zainul Abedin

Ranu Bhai, AWRB. Thank you for your valuable inputs. First of all, all the four Khalifa was closet friends of Prophet (SAW) and praised by Allah(SWT) for their honesty and integrity. So we no one to judge them. Besides as you mentioned, Omar (RA) was very straight forward and honest ruler. He was very hard working. There are numerous incidents, because of his humbleness, people embraced Islam.

Whatever little I know of Islamic history, Umar Ibn Khattab, the Second Caliph of Islam, was once a fierce opponent of Muhammad (SM) and his new faith (Islam). He was very literate but violent in nature and did openly whatever he believed in. Brandishing his sword, he was on his way to kill the Prophet. On the way, a friend informed him that he should first fix his house because his sister and her husband secretly embraced the new religion. Umar turned back and rushed to his sister, who and and her husband along with a few new converts, were reciting a newly revealed verse ( Sura Taha 81:1) at that moment. After a dramatic entry into the house, Umar demanded and listened to the verse, and his heart melted instantly. He rushed back to the Prophet, still with sword drawn, and declared his allegiance to the new faith. Umar's conversion to Islam was as dramatic as it was a new found strength among the Muslims. Unlike others, Umar made no secret of his conversion, and nobody dared to challenge him, mainly because of his nature and high family connections among Quraysh.

Though a little short tempered and strict ( he bet his own son to death for drinking wine), Umar was the most capable administrator among the Khulaf-e-Rashedeen. He is credited for maintaining unity within Islam, at times using autocratic measures, in the face of a growing factionalism within and outsied. Islamic empire saw huge expansion under his command, time, thanks mainly to a great general like Khalid Ibn Walid (whom he later fired suspecting his popularity and a threat in him). His greatest success was the breakup of Persio-Roman alliance and conquest of Persia. However, distractors found him to be very strict and unkind.

If some one fear Allah (swt) doesn't mean One have to sing praises for cruelties that Omar committed. When 1971 is so far off, then how narratives, supposedly from 1400 year ago are so authentic, is it because narrated in Arabic.

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