Admittedly it is dificult to photograph the set, just thought it'd be interesting to make a new comparison. They seem to be on the right color scales now, so all deviations can be due to poor shots. I won't be critical just yet. Really excited to finally get the set and have a look for myself!

Also, the people PMing me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you are, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged me their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you try to hide behind me.

Admittedly it is dificult to photograph the set, just thought it'd be interesting to make a new comparison. They seem to be on the right color scales now, so all deviations can be due to poor shots. I won't be critical just yet. Really excited to finally get the set and have a look for myself!

Also, the people PMing me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you are, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged me their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you try to hide behind me.

Damn I knew something didn't look quite right with the final color of the set when I first saw that picture from instagram. Your color comparison just confirmed my doubt. Oh boy...

Admittedly it is dificult to photograph the set, just thought it'd be interesting to make a new comparison. They seem to be on the right color scales now, so all deviations can be due to poor shots. I won't be critical just yet. Really excited to finally get the set and have a look for myself!

Also, the people PMing me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you are, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged me their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you try to hide behind me.

Damn I knew something didn't look quite right with the final color of the set when I first saw that picture from instagram. Your color comparison just confirmed my doubt. Oh boy...

I hear what you are saying, and trust me I am the first in line to raise doubts if it is justified - but let's not base opinions on a Instagram photo where GMK are clear with that they have difficulties capturing the colors.

I was concerned before in the thread because the accents were on the wrong color scale, something that Jessica cleared up - so let's be patient with this and wait for more photos (some that don't look overexposed like the GMK one), or until we actually have the set. We can confirm that the color scales are at least correct now (accent is green towards desaturated cyan rather than baby blue), so the shade of the color being off is likely due to the photo itself.

Admittedly it is dificult to photograph the set, just thought it'd be interesting to make a new comparison. They seem to be on the right color scales now, so all deviations can be due to poor shots. I won't be critical just yet. Really excited to finally get the set and have a look for myself!

Also, the people PMing me about the instagram photos and how unsatisfied you are, why don't you voice your own opinions in the thread? I won't name anyone, but multiple people messaged me their opinions but want me to get all the pitchforks in their stead after seeing my last posts unfold. Stand for your own opinion instead, it's kind of pathetic that you try to hide behind me.

I can confirm that while that pic looks nice, the colours are not accurate. They're all incredibly washed out, and the pic has a very cool colour temp. I actually turned on a blue light filter on my screen and the colours got a bit closer to reality.

IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself, and if you haven't got a set yourself, people with actually good camera setups will be taking pics

I can confirm that while that pic looks nice, the colours are not accurate. They're all incredibly washed out, and the pic has a very cool colour temp. I actually turned on a blue light filter on my screen and the colours got a bit closer to reality.

IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself, and if you haven't got a set yourself, people with actually good camera setups will be taking pics

For the time being, just look at the pretty novelties

Are you happy with the way they turned out? Looking forward to the set!

I can confirm that while that pic looks nice, the colours are not accurate. They're all incredibly washed out, and the pic has a very cool colour temp. I actually turned on a blue light filter on my screen and the colours got a bit closer to reality.

IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself, and if you haven't got a set yourself, people with actually good camera setups will be taking pics

For the time being, just look at the pretty novelties

Are you happy with the way they turned out? Looking forward to the set!

100% satisfied with the colours of the set. Pictures downplay how pretty this set is.

IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself

Let's be careful with statements like this, as a GB runner you should be careful and take responsibility for promises like this. We saw what could happen when you casually type out something in this thread and then it turns in to the wild west in here.

With that said, you expect us to have the set in our hands within the next week? That's a bold statement.

IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself

Let's be careful with statements like this, as a GB runner you should be careful and take responsibility for promises like this. We saw what could happen when you casually type out something in this thread and then it turns in to the wild west in here.

With that said, you expect us to have the set in our hands within the next week? That's a bold statement.

1. All I'm saying is the set is hard to take pics of. I don't personally have the means to take an accurate picture and GMK went with a more artistic shot rather than accurate when it comes to the colours. So the logical third option is to wait until it gets in the hands of community members with better setups and accurate pictures will make their way around. I really wish you (and I do mean you specifically) would take a moment to properly read my messages, rather than constantly behaving like a child on the verge of a tantrum looking for anything to start screaming about.

2. At the time of me writing that message, that was the estimate; however, there were some delays on the sorting or whatever. It should be shipping out from Germany to distributors "soon", but they didn't give me any dates.

I generally hate all keycaps. Keycaps are for poofs. Real men touchtype on stems. Non-functional artisans are awesome, I use them for the ESC key ... escape is for cowards anyways, real men go frontal assault.

Sorry I just dont understand how theres this much scrutiny, this painfully mypoic behavior against this gb runner for this particular set. If you get the set and you hate it then its certainly the time to discuss it. Not sure what anyone is accomplishing by scrutinizing photos of how the set may look, based on photos, especially since they are shipping soon.

I can confirm that while that pic looks nice, the colours are not accurate. They're all incredibly washed out, and the pic has a very cool colour temp. I actually turned on a blue light filter on my screen and the colours got a bit closer to reality.

IDK how else to put it, but just wait a week and you'll see the set yourself, and if you haven't got a set yourself, people with actually good camera setups will be taking pics

For the time being, just look at the pretty novelties

Are you happy with the way they turned out? Looking forward to the set!

100% satisfied with the colours of the set. Pictures downplay how pretty this set is.

Please keep this discussion respectful and on topic. This thread will be cleaned up if there is any more high-intensity arguments with the group buy runner that are not contributing to the positive progress of this group buy.

I wish I would have cancelled my order when the initial red flags were raised early on in the sample process, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. The accents came out good, I'll admit - but the alphas... you be the judge.

Now huge disclaimer, I am not a good photograph, the photos are not properly white balanced and they are not consistent or perfectly accurate. My point of posting these is to show the difference in alpha color compared to the render (box has the correct color that I compared to as well) - take it however you want.

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It does look like the old render of necro, however, that is not the necro that I was planning on getting when I ordered based on newer renders:

What I, and what I assume the other 4 people buying Necro were purchasing was actually this:

I wish I would have cancelled my order when the initial red flags were raised early on in the sample process, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. The accents came out good, I'll admit - but the alphas... you be the judge.

Now huge disclaimer, I am not a good photograph, the photos are not properly white balanced and they are not consistent or perfectly accurate. My point of posting these is to show the difference in alpha color compared to the render (box has the correct color that I compared to as well) - take it however you want.

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It does look like the old render of necro, however, that is not the necro that I was planning on getting when I ordered based on newer renders:

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What I, and what I assume the other 4 people buying Necro were purchasing was actually this:

I wish I would have cancelled my order when the initial red flags were raised early on in the sample process, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. The accents came out good, I'll admit - but the alphas... you be the judge.

Now huge disclaimer, I am not a good photograph, the photos are not properly white balanced and they are not consistent or perfectly accurate. My point of posting these is to show the difference in alpha color compared to the render (box has the correct color that I compared to as well) - take it however you want.

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It does look like the old render of necro, however, that is not the necro that I was planning on getting when I ordered based on newer renders:

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What I, and what I assume the other 4 people buying Necro were purchasing was actually this:

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Thought I'd hop in and see how it came out in the end and be jelly of you guys's keebs but holy moly I'm glad I didn't cop this:/ sad to see such a good idea come to such a sad conclusion.I just hope all of this can be resolved in rev 2 so I can cop a nice set of necro caps!

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Even my contact at GMK confirmed with me that every one of those colours looks wrong in his photo. Looks like you and GMK just have similar lighting.

I have the final samples right in front of me as I write this, and every single colour in your picture is incorrectly shown. The blue and gray are incredibly overly vibrant, which incidcates to me that green would also be overly vibrant as well.

Yes, the alphas are green. It isn't a vibrant green by any measure, but is still green.

As well, please for the love of God, don't use GMK renders as reference when they aren't even on the group buy thread. GMK renders are notoriously washed out and incorrect, which is why I had Oblotzky do all the renders accurately to the goal. They're almost entirel a formality just to display what keys are included.I am aware the GMK renders are on Originative, but I have told Sheraton to replace those about 15 different times now and he hasn't. Not my website, not in my control. Sorry for that.

Quick side note: "box has the correct color that I compared to as well" The box art is not accurate to the set, I never said it was accurate to the set. It's just a good artistic approximation of the colours.

Now, if you have been looking at the GMK render this whole time (despite my best efforts...), then I guess I'll take the blame for your mistake. You expected keys with nearly no colour and well.. you got keys that have colour.

Feel free to list your set up on /r/MechMarket, because I'd genuinely be really disappointed if you had a product you're unhappy with.

I'm not here to trick people into giving me money , I'm not here to lie about what I'm making. I'm just trying to make pretty keysets, and I promise I do try really really hard.

Write down whatever you wish to write down in the thread in your effort to try and save what little that is left of your reputation as a keycap runner, but you'd have to be conpletely insane out of your mind to think that the alphas are anything close to ANY representation of the alpha color shown during the GB phase. Accurate photos or not (I never claimed accurate photos), I'll let everyone decide for themselves. It literally is INSULTING that you even try to JUSTIFY the alpha color, if you have your set. It is not even CLOSE.

Lessons learned, never trust you. It seems to be the general consensus in general, I am finding out now. I guess I was just too gullible, and well; now I am paying for it.

I'll just leave this here, it's a bit funny now that everything is concluded.

Write down whatever you wish to write down in the thread in your effort to try and save what little that is left of your reputation as a keycap runner, but you'd have to be conpletely insane out of your mind to think that the alphas are anything close to ANY representation of the alpha color shown during the GB phase. Accurate photos or not (I never claimed accurate photos), I'll let everyone decide for themselves. It literally is INSULTING that you even try to JUSTIFY the alpha color, if you have your set. It is not even CLOSE.

Lessons learned, never trust you. It seems to be the general consensus in general, I am finding out now. I guess I was just too gullible, and well; now I am paying for it.

I'll just leave this here, it's a bit funny now that everything is concluded.

I was planning on picking up the set, but now I'm probably out. Jessica, Emir does have a point when he said there's no excuse. The colors of the mods are different. The colors of the alphas are also different. Not just different by a bit, they differ by A TON. Like really. If you don't tell me these are both GMK Necro, I would totally have guessed these are just two different sets. Not that I say the real sample is bad, I feel like this is just a flash back of Solarized Dark when people MIGHT eventually start to grow interest in the set eventually, but saying this was anything close to the render was just not true.

So, to everyone who bought the set who might be concerned about the colours, especially because of the pictures posted, I'd like to give my absolute best effort to clear up how difficult these colours are to capture accurately.

These pictures were taken less than 5 minutes apart, in the same lighting conditions (in my bedroom, natural lighting only), no colour correction, taken with my iPhone 8.The difference is simply the background colour:

I'm not saying my pictures are by any means accurate, these are simply to demonstrate how much variance there is in the exact same conditions, changing literally just the background colour.

And Emir, please never purchase anything I make ever again. It will save both of us a lot of grief. Months of your pedantry isn't worth the few dollars I earn from your purchase. No need to respond to me, please just sell your set in classifieds or r/mechmarket and get your money back, and find a different keyset to use.

Although it's hard to tell true colors from photos and what sets "should" look like from renders I do agree that the colors seem off and for the person running the set to not have one on hand before customers to me speaks volumes of how the QA process was handled. I am hoping when my set comes in I still want to keep it because I was very excited for a long time to get this set based on the renders. I know if I had my name on something I would have a full set and pictures before anyone else receives it. I have never run a set but it just seems like this could have gone smoother. I hope the alphas are a lighter green and the mods are more grey than dark blue but who knows... I know it's not easy running a set but if you take the ownership of the credit you should also take ownership in the mistakes it's really hard to believe Jessica doesn't have a set yet and can't find anyone to take an accurate photo of what she believes to be the actual color.

Although it's hard to tell true colors from photos and what sets "should" look like from renders I do agree that the colors seem off and for the person running the set to not have one on hand before customers to me speaks volumes of how the QA process was handled. I am hoping when my set comes in I still want to keep it because I was very excited for a long time to get this set based on the renders. I know if I had my name on something I would have a full set and pictures before anyone else receives it. I have never run a set but it just seems like this could have gone smoother. I hope the alphas are a lighter green and the mods are more grey than dark blue but who knows... I know it's not easy running a set but if you take the ownership of the credit you should also take ownership in the mistakes it's really hard to believe Jessica doesn't have a set yet and can't find anyone to take an accurate photo of what she believes to be the actual color.

You get sample colours, not sample sets from GMK. Makers get their sets from the production run. That isn't a failing on Jessica's part.

Although it's hard to tell true colors from photos and what sets "should" look like from renders I do agree that the colors seem off and for the person running the set to not have one on hand before customers to me speaks volumes of how the QA process was handled. I am hoping when my set comes in I still want to keep it because I was very excited for a long time to get this set based on the renders. I know if I had my name on something I would have a full set and pictures before anyone else receives it. I have never run a set but it just seems like this could have gone smoother. I hope the alphas are a lighter green and the mods are more grey than dark blue but who knows... I know it's not easy running a set but if you take the ownership of the credit you should also take ownership in the mistakes it's really hard to believe Jessica doesn't have a set yet and can't find anyone to take an accurate photo of what she believes to be the actual color.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but is this what it supposed to be like? Hmmmmm......

This is the setup I used, two studio light stands, white table and a DSLR - note that I am bad at photographing and have no clue what I am doing besides point'n'shoot.

I can confirm that under these light conditions, the "gray" was indeed more towards darker blue in real life - not just in the photos. Been fiddling with the set now in various lighting conditions and BGs, and no matter what - alphas won't even come close to anything that was advertised as GMK Necro alphas.

Don't worry jessica, I would sell it if anyone wanted the set. The original idea did not sell out (it would be interesting to get some real numbers, I have a gut feeling less than 50 out of 250 are sold) - so my chances of flipping are low. You won't have to deal with me for any future sets, I promise, but in every major discord the faith in you is but long gone, so good luck with anything moving forwards with a 2/2 track record.