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I think the Lerner's have been good owners from the stand point of being willing to spend (well up until recently any way). The new owner is an unknown quantity, at this point we really don't know if he will be better or worse than the Lerner's have been. We can only hope that he will be better.

As for Mr Lerner, I know what he can do with all that new found money... he can pry our Cleveland Indians out of those cheap hands of Dolan. I would love to see Dolan sell the team to someone that really desires to win, or is at least willing to spend some money in order to increase our chances of winning.

This is the age of kids that don't like water. They grow up drinking all kinds of beverages EXCEPT for water. As a result, they get dehydrated and pull muscles. Also, they don't bother to properly stretch, adding to the problem. They don't see the importance of those 2 things.

The Browns should have absolutely taken Stephen Hill in the 2nd round. At 6'4" he had blazing speed with a 4.36 40 time, and the height you want at WR. Hill did not get targeted often, solely due to the type of offense he was in. So his total production wasn't high, however, he was the most productive player on a per target basis. When the ball went his way, he produced. He was also considered a smart kid with good character. I think the Browns will regret not grabbing one of the WRs that was available in the 2nd round, either Hill or Jeffrey in particular.

As for Gordon, he is basically the size and speed of Greg Little, although perhaps not quite as strong, but with better hands. Absolutely worth a 3rd round pick... but because there is some risk, I think a 2nd rounder might be too high.

@halfwayhouse: "It's funny that Colt would have been a likely fourth round pick or lower had Holmgren not pulled the trigger on him, the national media consistently wrote of Colts limitations and how he would never be an elite qb especially in the daunting AFC North"

How about some facts to back that up? How about a dose of REALITY! McCoy was projected to go in the end of Round 1, not the fourth round. He was considered a bargain in the 3rd round, and that is why H&H snatched him up. Here is an example: http://cfn.scout.com/2/856941.html

After McCoy was injured in the national championship game, then his draft projection got some uncertainty, and he was projected to go between end of first and 3rd round.

Weeden, on the other hand, was project to go late 2nd or early 3rd round by most draft sites, mostly due to his age. ESPN had him ranked #48, which is a lower ranking than their final ranking of McCoy who they had a final ranking of #42.

So what is actually funny (or sad) is so called "fans" that make up crap and spew it as fact.

Weeden SHOULD have been a 3rd round pick, definitely no higher than 2nd round. Just because a team reaches and grabs a QB in the first round doesn't mean that he will succeed. So if the Browns had reached for Cousins and taken him in the 1st round instead of him going in the 4th, Cousins chances at success would have also been higher?

An interesting fact on Holmgren is that when Kurt Warner went undrafted, Holmgren invited him to Green Bays training camp for a tryout. I don't know how you evaluate this... on one hand, he saw enough talent in Warner to invite him for a tryout, but on the other hand he also cut him.

#6, 2 future #1's PLUS ADDITIONAL PICKS to move up 4 spots!!! That is INSANE! There were really only 2 teams in the running for RG3 and those were Cleveland and Washington. So Cleveland should have offered Washington the #4 pick for much less than what the Rams wanted. Cleveland probably could have gotten their 1st rounder this year, 3rd this year, and a 1st next year and it would be a much better deal for Washington. Then if worse comes to worse, Cleveland could have used that extra 1st rounder next year if needed to go after Barkley.

If Washington really gave up that much, don't you think they should have gone after Luck instead?

Colt McCoy was listed at 6'3" in college, and measured in at 6'1-1/4" at the combine.

ESPN has RG3 listed at 6'1-1/2", and I have heard the same thing from people that have seen him in person, that he is barely over 6 feet tall. I expect that he will measure in at about 1" shorter than his listed height. To me, RG3 just does not have the elite size that you want in a QB that is going to demand such a high draft pick.

I can tell you that I was impressed with Cam Newton. I was not impressed in the same way by RG3. At one point on most big boards, RG3 was the #4 QB behind Matt Barkley and Landry Jones, before they decided to return to school, so that does say something.

If RG3 was the same size as Cam Newton, then I would be more impressed. Ideally, you want an NFL QB to be 6'4"-6'5" and about 245lbs. RG3 is currently listed at 6'1-1/2" and 218lbs, and I have seem some reports that suggest he might measure in an inch shorter at the combine. So he is no bigger than McCoy. Also, McCoy has a slightly higher completion percentage over his 4 years in college compared to RG3, was within a fraction of a yard in yard/attempt, and had nearly the same passer rating. All that considered, RG3 does not sound to me like enough of an upgrade over McCoy and not worthy of such a high pick, let alone BOTH first round picks. The Browns simply have too many needs to fill, and QB is not at the top of that list.

Jeffrey's stats were a bit low this year because of poor QB play. But I believe he had only 1 drop this year, so he has the better hands, and as you pointed out the better size. I think their speed is about the same. Blackmon however is better at making the athletic catch and has better body control in the air.

But, if you take Trent Richardson at #4, and get Alshon Jeffrey with the other 1st rounder, I think you are better off with that pair, instead of Blackmon and RB Lamar Miller.

Alshon Jeffrey might be the better bet, even if we need to move up a little from that #22 pick. Jeffrey dropped what, 1 pass all season? Plus Jeffrey has the height you want in a WR, at 6'4" (compared to Blackmon at 6'1"), and has about the same speed.

That would be great to get Billick, but do you really think he would settle for a coordinator position? He is more qualified to be HC than Shurmur or anyone else in the organization other than Holmgren.

You can find the sports science show where they measured McCoys throwing velocity, and he throws the ball at 56MPH. By comparison, thats the exact same speed the Cam Newton throws at, and they showed Brees throwing the ball at 52MPH. The typical NFL QB throws the ball at 50-60MPH. Velocity = arm strength.

The other components to throwing the ball are angle, spin, release point, and footwork. Those are all mechanics, and mechanics can be worked on.

The average NFL QB gets 3-5 seconds before the pocket collapses, McCoy was getting 1.5 seconds less than average. That does not leave enough time for the WRs to run their routes (part of the reason why they can't get open, and part of the reason why they drop the ball because they are not ready for it), does not leave enough time for the QB to survey the defense, or plant his feet and have a good throw. Also, having your #1 RB injured most of the season made matters all the worse.

Fixing the line, getting a #1 WR, and getting a starting RB will do much more for the offense than simply plugging in a new QB can ever do.

How is RG3 a "franchise QB"? What makes you so sure about that? If you can get Luck, then its a much safer bet.

RG3 just does not have the size you want in an NFL QB, especially in the AFC North. He is NOT taller than McCoy and is about the same weight. Did you know that McCoy actually had a higher completion percentage in college than RG3, their yards per attempt is nearly the same (within a fraction of a yard), and their passer rating is nearly the same. I think its also fair to say that McCoy had to face tougher defenses in college as well. RG3 is faster, but you don't want your QB relying on his feet too much, thats how you get a career ending injury in the AFC-N

The Browns have too many holes to fill to risk such a high pick on RG3. The QB crop will be much deeper in next years draft.

Carmona's issues are all mental. You can see it in his face and posture when he doesn't get the call he is expecting, or when makes a good pitch that gets hit. He then gets angry, frustrated, and loses focus, and as a result he tries to throw the pitch harder and it loses its sink or he misses his target... then things can snowball out of control.

Victor Martinez understood this very well, that is why he constantly was motioning him to calm down. What the tribe should do is find out which catcher he is more comfortable working with, and then have that catcher look at how Martinez handled the situation, look for things that sets Carmona off and for signs that he is getting frustrated, and then find the best way to work with him to keep him focused.

I don't think Carmona is having any physical issues, they are all mental, so I really don't see any reason that he can't have a great year with an ERA in the 3's, so long as they can keep him focused.

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