Category Archives: Fucking Assholes

The users on FCB have been discussing a lot about the authenticity of the patches from a manufacturer standpoint, and now there are the first evident user created Ultimate patch fakes. Take a look at a few they pointed out, which all are completely scammed by user/fucktard Aruba202.

Here are some other GREAT ones from the same douchebag – ALL FAKE. This is why I tell you to check items for sale/completed auctions. He broke every cardinal rule and people still have paid hundreds for his “masterpieces.” He is making a killing and I feel bad for the people who buy from this fucking asshat. Check these out:

Ever since the fake patch industry exploded, there have been a few people that have always been at the center of it. One of them, shoelessjoejackson has evaded every bit of retiribution, and has continued to process fake after fake after fake. We now know that they are also in cahoots, as the fake rookie premiere autos that have made their way around eBay have popped up on the seller list of just about every single one of these people.

Shoelessjoejackson has since changed his name to peopleschoice7373, and continues to run scams aplenty. He has been known to sell fake patches, trimmed cards, and just about every other scam there is. Wolverine24 is part of this group, selling similar fake patches, as well as the fake Rookie Premiere Autos, which could be being produced by either person, or one of the other six to seven that are involved in the scam. Ebay has expressed NO want to help us take down these assholes, mainly because they are sellers who do thousands in revenue each month.

See, they try to throw you with the whole “sample” label, but im sure this was either a blank card with no swatches, or it was a card that had this sample label printed on it. Hell, the sample lable could be on the holder. We don’t know. What we do know is that no one in their right mind would ever pay for this card.

I cant really think of any other way to bring these people down other than going straight to the card companies. However, they may not be able to do anything either. I encourage you to contact Topps and Donruss (they are prime targets for both sellers) so that all of these guys can be IP banned from eBay for processing fraudulent items.

The one thing I am worried about is that someone had a list of all of the scammers somewhere and has utilized that list to start the RPA fakes. If they continue to band together, the rule of multiples will always hurt people more than we can counteract here. Think about it, if one person is selling the fakes, its an obvious fake to most people because that ONE guy is the one who is making the cards. If ten people are selling the fakes, not only do they become more attractive to idiot buyers because more people have them, but it is harder to pin down who is perpetuating this scam.

A few readers sent in this auction link of a seller who wanted to prove that a recently sold Peterson chest logo SPA Patch Auto was fake. See, of all the patches to fake, I would expect that this one would be the least likely to top the list due to the shear scope of the cost of the card. Then again, we have seen Exquisite Peterson fakes, and other fakes of this SPA card, so the lesson is this:

JUST BECAUSE ITS HIGH END, DOESNT MEAN YOU ARE SAFE.

The too good to be true rules still apply, and basically it comes down to not taking a chance. Yes, it is a cool card, but why risk the fake patch? Why not buy a 3-color for a similar price and be sure it is real. SPAs are frequently faked, though UD has been good about removing the auctions they know to be fake. Some of them will continue to get through as I have mentioned here before, but its still something that needs to be planted in the minds of collectors. Nothing is safe anymore, and if someone can make a buck or two by switching out the patch, THEY WILL. They are fucking scum, and should be castrated to prevent more of them from entering the gene pool.

Listen people, dont be idiots out there, and though there are quite a few people who will continue to be idiots, it does not give you free reign on both ends of this scam.

ADDENDUM: Just because a card is slabbed does not mean it is real, just another way the scammers get you. See, even though Beckett may authenticate the card, there is nothing they will authenticate about a patch. Now, aside from the arbitrary and exceedingly stupid practice of authenticating cards (especially post 1995), the scammers use this available resource as a way to lure you into a dumb purchase. Even if Beckett were to say something is real, a la SPA NFL Logo patches from Tomlinson’s RC year, why would it be in your best interest to believe them? Why are they the preeminent authenticators of patches, especially with all the fakes out there? Yes, yes, I know some are ridiculously obvious, but when it comes to others, they arent necessarily a green smurf in smurfville. I dont put any trust in Beckett either way, but some of you might when it comes to seeing the authentic slabs. In fact, if a card was in an authentic slab, I would AUTOMATICALLY stay away, as it waives red flags all over my alarm system.

I am putting the scam pulled by MelbourneBrokebackCowboy at the same level as this ridiculous auction. This seller is selling his “UNCIRCULATED” Jonathan Stewart UD heroes auto, and I almost want to shoot anyone who even thinks of bidding on this card.

Here are his words:

“08 UD FOOTBALL HEROES- JONATHAN STEWART UNCIRCULATED AUTO RC SP# 158/250! PANTHERS! PERFECT TO GRADE![…]DO YOU REMEMBER A FEW YEARS BACK, TO COLLECT YOUR FAVORITE STAR ATHLETES WAS REALLY FUN? YOU WOULD COLLECT, AND HAVE AS MANY DUPLICATE CARDS AS YOU COULD HANDLE. BUT, IN THE SAME TIME IT WOULDNT PUT A DENT IN YOUR WALLET! (OH YES, THE GOOD OL’ DAYS!) WELL, I AM BRINGING THOSE DAYS BACK HERE AGAIN! WITH ALL NEW AUCTIONS BY TRUBLUE87! ALL OF MY AUCTIONS WILL START OUT AT $0.55! AND I WILL COMBINE ALL SHIPPING COSTS!!!!!! ALL CARDS ARE IN NM-MT CONDITION (UNLESS OTHERWISE NOTED!)”

Good story. Compelling, and rich. Despite all the caps, the stupid concept, and the ridiculous description, there is one simple problem with this auction that most people would spot in a second…

…the card is a UD card in a Topps uncirculated holder.

Good call there chief, really top notch work. On top of all this, the person brings forth a follow up to my post from yesterday, or more importantly brings forth the fucking stupid ass idea of grading an uncirculated card. Why in god’s name would you de-case an already encased card, just so that you can get it into ANOTHER ugly holder with an obvious grade. Stupidity at its finest, I really love these.

A very hot button issue has come up lately on a number of different message boards around the net and I wanted to post about it here. Apparently, a douchebag from Southern California or Mexico has found a way to counterfeit the PSA holders and labels. He has a bunch of fake 1952 Mantle Bowman cards, and is using his “talent” for making the fake holders to sell them on eBay and Craigslist. It may not be easy to spot for the untrained eye, but many people have the cards in hand and know they are fake. Someone even compared bar codes and they all looked eerily similar.

The first time this was put up for auction, eBay removed it after a bunch of complaints came in. There were also four or five collectors from around the net who purchased similar cards from the guy but immediately realized they were fake. I mentioned a few days ago that its becoming very hard to trust any of these people any more, mainly because the scam level is so fucking high. I also mentioned that no matter what the technology is, someone will find a way to take advantage of it. The fucking idiots who throw ethics and the law out the window are the people that have made this hobby one of the least trustworthy pastimes there is.

According to the boards, PSA has been contacted a number of times, but has yet to do anything about it. Typical.

Guys, it comes down to the golden rule of collecting: IF IT SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS.