After Obsessively Attacking Obama for Years, #Breitbart.com Decides He’s “Irrelevant”

For years, breitbart.com editor Joel Pollak has been attacking absolutely everything Barack Obama does, writing hundreds of thousands of words, spending every waking minute watching videos and reading transcripts, looking for any little phrase he can twist and distort, poring over photographs looking for the least flattering ones, in a way that can only be described as manic and obsessive.

The “fiscal cliff” fiasco has made it clear that President Barack Obama is entirely irrelevant to the everyday task of governing.

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He is not interested in it, and he is not good at it.

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But he does nothing positive for the country.

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The deal that took shape on Capitol Hill over the past few days and weeks happened almost without President Obama’s involvement—and despite his hyper-partisan press conference yesterday, which nearly poisoned the entire process.

It is almost impossible to imagine Obama doing anything else except making speeches.

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Even as a symbol, Obama is failing.

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People only like him when they can forget the reality of who he is and what he has done.

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He is King Obama the Irrelevant.

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In his own imagination, he wishes he had monarchical powers.

This is one of the all-time classics of hilarious right wing butthurt, and it’s self-refuting — you can take it to the bank that Pollak will be right back in manic attack mode before the day is over. And by the way, the name “Obama” appears at least 15 times on the front page of breitbart.com today, proving beyond a doubt how irrelevant he is to the Breitbart business model.

P.S. The comments from the Breitbart audience for Pollak’s stupid article are just as vicious and deranged as always.

The CBO scoring is based on the law as in effect. In other words, it's scored based not on comparing the proposed law versus the 2001/2003/2009 tax law, but on the pre-2001 rates which resumed earlier today. Anything that increases spending or reduces revenue compared to the pre-2001 rates results in spending/debt, even if it compares favorably to the 2001/2003/2009 tax law.

The GOP is now using this scoring (comparing the pre-2001 to fiscal cliff deal) as a justification for more cuts? Hypocrisy much?

The CBO scoring is based on the law as in effect. In other words, it's scored based not on comparing the proposed law versus the 2001/2003/2009 tax law, but on the pre-2001 rates which resumed earlier today. Anything that increases spending or reduces revenue compared to the pre-2001 rates results in spending/debt, even if it compares favorably to the 2001/2003/2009 tax law.

The GOP is now using this scoring (comparing the pre-2001 to fiscal cliff deal) as a justification for more cuts? Hypocrisy much?

Apparently tax cuts suddenly cost something when it comes to finding justification to further gut the social safety net.

Pollak and the rest of the Breitbartians think Obama's going to institute a monarchy, govern by diktat, and otherwise take away the guns and impose socialism and communism all at once.

Oh, but he's irrelevant because he's managed to turn the GOP against itself (House and Senate GOP factions can't get a deal done they'd live with), and otherwise changed the conversation on taxes and entitlements.

Well, it looks like Boehner's got two choices: Break the Hastert Rule to bring the bill to the floor and very likely end his speakership or agree to allowing amendments to the bill to go to the floor without any guarantee that even those amendments have enough votes, but with the assurance that if they do and the bill goes back to the Senate, it'll be DOA.

People only like him when they can forget the reality of who he is and what he has done.

Is he saying that people deliberately forget who Obama is and what he's done, in order to like him? Why the fuck would people do that? How strange is your head that you'd think this makes any kind of fucking sense at all?

How can anybody write a sentence like this without breaking down in tears at their own massive failure?

I'm at the point where I can hardly stand to watch media coverage of these kinds of things, because every single channel seems to think it's vital to continue talking and jabbering and saying anything at all with not a single second of silence. It just turns into a wall of noise for me.

The nonpartisan Joint Committee on Taxation estimates that the entire package will increase the deficit by $3.9 trillion over 10 years, with a $280 billion increase in 2013 alone. That’s because the JCT is comparing the deal to what would happen if the entire fiscal cliff were allowed to take effect — about $4.5 trillion in deficit reduction over 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office. It looks worse if you include interest on the debt and the $30 billion in federal unemployment insurance, which is not offset.

The numbers look better if you compare the deal to a world in which we had kept the tax code the way it was in 2012: Then, the package raises more than $600 billion in additional revenue (and cuts interest payments by about $50 billion). But it comes from a far smaller portion of taxpayers than Obama had been hoping for. Letting the Bush tax cuts expire at the $450,000 family/$400,000 income threshold affects just 0.7 percent of all taxpayers, or a little over 1 million Americans, according to Tax Policy Center’s latest analysis.

re: #31 Vicious Babushka
You have a good wok? I had one but my stove just did not make enough heat.
We just finished brunch-Tried eggs Benedict with crepes. Can't remember ever making them before. Came out just a bit bland. But really rich.

Cantor now opposes the bill, which I would assume mean its dead. The Tea Party once again snatches defeat from the jaws of victory. Now having demonstrated the utter unreasonableness of the Tea Party, the President should refuse to sign any deal unless it extends unemployment, the payroll tax holiday, and resolves the the debt limit, and allow the GOP to stew in the mess its made for itself.

So according to Debbie Wassermann Schultz (CNN) the bill was supposed to be a straight up or down vote in the House. That was the deal. The GOP can't keep it's own word for a whole 12 hours. Grrr. Really pissed this morning at this mess.

Notice the DERP, when confronted by a normal person, can't give any examples.

She isn't getting anywhere in our "Obama" phone discussion either, somehow Obama made the Republican majority state legislature of Florida approve the SafeLink program by Tracfone. At least that is what she is trying to make people believe...

Yeah, both are referring to the 10 year timeframe that the JCT or CBO normally do.

When you look at the revenues resulting from the Senate deal, it ends up generating more revenue than the 2001/2003/2009 tax law, but a whole lot less than if the rates/rules reverted to the pre-2001 levels. The GOP is now trying to spin the Senate deal as being bad because it results in a deficit as compared to the pre-2001 tax law, which is hilarious. All of a sudden, the GOP is concerned with cost?

Thing is that most of the 2001/2003/2009 cuts are being made permanent in this deal - all except on those in the top tax bracket, along with the cap gains and deductions changes.

Oh yes, and by the way -- that "OWS terrorist" the morning wingnut wave was yelling about yesterday? He had no apparent connection to OWS at all. He and his girlfriend were just common criminals - both of them had records.

The New York Post totally pulled that accusation out of its right wing ass.

Oh yes, and by the way -- that "OWS terrorist" the morning wingnut wave was yelling about yesterday? He had no apparent connection to OWS at all. He and his girlfriend were just common criminals - both of them had records.

The New York Post totally pulled that accusation out of its right wing ass.

Oh yes, and by the way -- that "OWS terrorist" the morning wingnut wave was yelling about yesterday? He had no apparent connection to OWS at all. He and his girlfriend were just common criminals - both of them had records.

The New York Post totally pulled that accusation out of its right wing ass.

And I noticed how quickly those making that charge stepped forth to admit they were wrong.
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Oh yes, and by the way -- that "OWS terrorist" the morning wingnut wave was yelling about yesterday? He had no apparent connection to OWS at all. He and his girlfriend were just common criminals - both of them had records.

The New York Post totally pulled that accusation out of its right wing ass.

Oh yes, and by the way -- that "OWS terrorist" the morning wingnut wave was yelling about yesterday? He had no apparent connection to OWS at all. He and his girlfriend were just common criminals - both of them had records.

The New York Post totally pulled that accusation out of its right wing ass.

And reported by our esteemed LGF researcher no less. Well I won't say either way, but......

This one is especially amusing given the many conservatives who bemoan the amendment that made the Senate elected by the people rather than the state legislature. It's you, Mr. Fischer who are out of touch.

Oh yes, and by the way -- that "OWS terrorist" the morning wingnut wave was yelling about yesterday? He had no apparent connection to OWS at all. He and his girlfriend were just common criminals - both of them had records.

The New York Post totally pulled that accusation out of its right wing ass.

Not surprised. Bet ya won't see one word of retraction from those who wanted to make them out to be OWS leftists tho because hey agenda.

Yeah, it's a common wingnut tactic - "you're irrelevant and nobody loves you!" A lot of these people seem to have been really stupid schoolyard bullies and never grew out of it. Andrew Breitbart is the classic example.

If they don't have the votes to pass an amended bill, then the only way they're going to bring the bill to the floor as-is will be to break the Hastert Rule. That happens, then Boehner's speakership is over.

ATLANTA--As part of its recent efforts to publicly align itself with fundamentalist Christian values, the Chick-fil-A restaurant chain announced today the debut of its new Queer-Hatin' Cordon Bleu sandwich that would be on sale in all of the company's 1,600 restaurants this Wednesday.

In a press conference to reporters, company representatives said the homophobic new sandwich will include the national fast food chain's trademark fried chicken filet wrapped in a piece of specially-smoked No Homo ham that would be topped with a slice of Swiss cheese and lathered in a creamy new Thousand Island-based Fag Punching sauce.

"The Queer-Hatin' Cordon Bleu is our company's way of showing our firm commitment to strong, Christian family values," said Chick-fil-A spokesman Robert Gary, before adding that the vehemently anti-gay rights sandwich comes served in a combo with waffle fries and a medium soda for just $6.95. "From the very first morsel of this savory meal to the very last bite, customers can envision gays burning in hell with their sodomizing cohorts, and know that our sandwich is on their side."

If they don't have the votes to pass an amended bill, then the only way they're going to bring the bill to the floor as-is will be to break the Hastert Rule. That happens, then Boehner's speakership is over.

Hastert's "majority of the majority" system is the greater threat to the political system than the Senate filibuster, IMO.

You have a good wok? I had one but my stove just did not make enough heat.
We just finished brunch-Tried eggs Benedict with crepes. Can't remember ever making them before. Came out just a bit bland. But really rich.

I have a flat-bottom wok that I use over a gas flame. Just made the egg rolls!

This one is especially amusing given the many conservatives who bemoan the amendment that made the Senate elected by the people rather than the state legislature. It's you, Mr. Fischer who are out of touch.

Bryan can't stop gloating that the House is GOP controlled, so they can block any legislation that Obama recommends. Just because they can.

Every day the GOP base gets smaller so the websites and networks competing for diminishing wingnut traffic have to be more and more outlandish and bombastic to get noticed.

Unfortunately with Obama as President there is, I'm certain, a reliable floor of wingnuts to keep these sites going. It will be interesting to see what happens after BHO leaves office, but for now the wingnut sites will continue to make money for at least the next 3 years.

Unfortunately with Obama as President there is, I'm certain, a reliable floor of wingnuts to keep these sites going. It will be interesting to see what happens after BHO leaves office, but for now the wingnut sites will continue to make money for at least the next 3 years.

Old age is claiming more of the strident GOP base every day. I bet there is a small number of wingnut sites making real money and they are all trying to outkook each other to do it.

The richest people on the planet got even richer in 2012, adding $241 billion to their collective net worth, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index, a daily ranking of the world’s 100 wealthiest individuals.

The aggregate net worth of the world’s top moguls stood at $1.9 trillion at the market close on Dec. 31, according to the index. Retail and telecommunications fortunes surged about 20 percent on average during the year. Of the 100 people who appeared on the final ranking of 2012, only 16 registered a net loss for the 12-month period.

A sharply divided House Republican leadership struggled to reach agreement on a measure to avoid part of the so-called “fiscal cliff,” as key members said they could not support the compromise approved early Tuesday by the Senate.

In a closed-door meeting of Republican House members, Rep. Eric Cantor of Virginia, the No. 2 Republican in the chamber, said he could not support the Senate-passed bill, according to two GOP lawmakers. Other Republicans said the bill would have to be amended and returned to the Senate.

Wait until the power vacuum is filled with... non-wingnut approved actors. To many people in the US think Venezuela is all Chavez-centric, but my read from the outside is that it is a very dynamic country yet even the anti-Chavez group, while not being fond of Bolivarian strong-man tactics, is hardly going to be poster children for the glibertarians over at Reason.

But people who think they can lead when they really haven't got a clue are a dime a dozen. Go figure.

I also object to your assertion running a business is hard. I run a small business myself (I am the only employee) and while it does require some effort, I do not find it overly complex.

Now of course if I expanded and added more workers and increased my investment and so on and so forth then the complexity goes up.

But regardless, running a business in and of itself it actually not too complicated as long as you have some common sense, basic math skills and good knowledge on what you're selling.

Ah, but there's the rub; Common sense isn't all that common and far too many people try to sell without really understanding their product. I can't tell you how many people I've seen come into sales jobs I've also been working only to leave after a few months because they did not really understand what they needed to do to be successful and would learn when those who did know tried to explain it to them (the knowers sometimes included me).

Most of them don't have the ability. Running a business is hard, and most people aren't really able to do it. People able and willing to lead aren't that common.

I understand. my point is that I dispute the notion by the RW that when rich people get richer they automatically use their extra cash to go create jobs. That's not how it works. Business start up and expand to meet growing / changing demand from consumers. If there is not a strong middle class with disposable income to spend, then private sector job creation will not happen no matter if you reduced the tax rate on rich people to 0%.

Ah, but there's the rub; Common sense isn't all that common and far too many people try to sell without really understanding their product. I can't tell you how many people I've seen come into sales jobs I've also been working only to leave after a few months because they did not really understand what they needed to do to be successful and would learn when those who did know tried to explain it to them (the knowers sometimes included me).

Again though there is a distinct difference between running a business and running a business WELL. Simply running a business is not that hard. Running one well? That's the tricky part.

I understand. my point is that I dispute the notion by the RW that when rich people get richer they automatically use their extra cash to go create jobs. That's not how it works. Business start up and expand to meet growing / changing demand from consumers. If there is not a strong middle class with disposable income to spend, then private sector job creation will not happen no matter if you reduced the tax rate on rich people to 0%.

That point you made is one I agree with. The main problem with it is that it takes longer to effectively make it than it someone else to show lurid images and shout slogans. It often loses because its easier to win votes with DERP!.

Researchers looking for a genetic signature of homosexuality have been barking up the wrong tree, according to a trio of researchers in the United States and Sweden. Instead, the scientists posit, epigenetic influences acting on androgen signaling in the brain may underlie sexual orientation. In a paper published last week (December 11) in The Quarterly Review of Biology, they propose a model describing how epigenetic markers that steer sexual development in males could promote homosexual orientation in females, and vice versa. The scientists offer their model to explain both the tendency of homosexuality to run in families, and the fact that so far no “homosexual gene” has been identified.

Sheesh, that makes you like 10 years older than my son. I feel ancient.

November 10th, 1977, two years after the Edmund Fitzgerald was lost, was the day I was born.

November 10th is also notable as the day in 1775 when the US Marine Corps was founded and the day in 1924 when Chicago North Side Gang leader Dean O'Banion was killed in Schofield's Flower Shop on State St.

November 10th, 1977, two years after the Edmund Fitzgerald was lost, was the day I was born.

November 10th is also notable as the day in 1775 when the US Marine Corps was founded and the day in 1924 when Chicago North Side Gang leader Dean O'Banion was killed in Schofield's Flower Shop on State St.

He's decently regarded in the states that border the Great Lakes, mostly for this haunting song about an event that occurred exactly two years before I was born:

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I have a nice signed print of the Edmund Fitzgerald by maritime artist Leo Kuschel. I hung up a painting of a different ship (J W Westcott II) next to the Fitz after we bought the new one at an art fair and a couple months later, that boat sank too.

I have a nice signed print of the Edmund Fitzgerald by maritime artist Leo Kuschel. I hung up a painting of a different ship (J W Westcott II) next to the Fitz after we bought the new one at an art fair and a couple months later, that boat sank too.

November 10th, 1977, two years after the Edmund Fitzgerald was lost, was the day I was born.

November 10th is also notable as the day in 1775 when the US Marine Corps was founded and the day in 1924 when Chicago North Side Gang leader Dean O'Banion was killed in Schofield's Flower Shop on State St.

Libertarians have that rare gift of making me feel like a pragmatist when it comes to politics. I like some of their social policy stuff but their economic views I think are often grounded in fantasy and vacuums.

Damn, I was all hyped up today about a pending business deal but looks like it's not going to happen today. Oh, well. I thought it was kind of odd people wanted to spend the holiday trading phone calls and negotiating. Maybe tomorrow.

Go ahead and hate your neighbor
Go ahead and cheat a friend.
Do it in the name of heaven,
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I first heard that song sung by a cousin of mine, and didn't hear a recorded version of it till years later. It's a favorite of mine and one I've posted sometimes, usually in reply to hateful ideologues who want to turn a country upside down

I never did get around to putting up a Page on the following, the contents of which if you take it seriously are rather disturbing:

More than one-third (36%) of Americans believe that the severity of recent natural disasters is evidence that we are in what the Bible calls the end times. Roughly 6-in-10 (59%) Americans disagree.

Nearly two-thirds (65%) of white evangelical Protestants believe that the severity of recent natural disasters is evidence of what the Bible calls the end times, compared to roughly 1-in-5 Catholics (21%) and religiously unaffiliated Americans (15%).

Four-in-ten (40%) independents, 35% of Democrats, and one-third (33%) of Republicans agree that the severity of recent natural disasters is evidence that we are in what the Bible calls the end times.

When that group who thinks we are in "The End" controls a significant congressional caucus, is there any wonder why we can't have reasonable discussions about legislation for the future?

I never did get around to putting up a Page on the following, the contents of which if you take it seriously are rather disturbing:

When that group who thinks we are in "The End" controls a significant congressional caucus, is there any wonder why we can't have reasonable discussions about legislation for the future?

Evangelical Protestants are usually out of touch with reality in my observations. I'm willing to bet you that they're the reason we have such a high percentage of people who doubt evolution in this country.

Evangelical Protestants are usually out of touch with reality in my observations. I'm willing to bet you that they're the reason we have such a high percentage of people who doubt evolution in this country.

There's no doubt on that, as surveys have shown that to be true.

The point I'm making is that apocalyptic group doesn't really care about "tomorrow", as they think they'll be magically saved from this or that problem.

Sort of the same explanation for why they don't care about climate change. They only care about what affects them right now, not future generations. The willful ignorance is a mask for greed.

I remember a local Democratic politician saying one of the reasons he joined the Democratic party was that in his observations the Democrats were a party that thought more about the longer term implications of policy while the Republicans were more short term in thinking. You can really see that especially in regards to policies especially like Climate Change for reasons you say.

I first heard that song sung by a cousin of mine, and didn't hear a recorded version of it till years later. It's a favorite of mine and one I've posted sometimes, usually in reply to hateful ideologues who want to turn a country upside down

It's a great song insofar as its message goes. Be fair. Do the right thing. Dishonesty, greed, and strife will earn nothing good in the long run. Lessons we all learned in kindergarten, but seem to forget all to often.

Although I like sports. I am glad my Dad was the type that would rather listen to a good CD than watch the big game. Found out about so many good artists through him. Still do. I feel great when I can return the favor for a change. Listening to Ryan Adams right now.

When Jim Croce died I thought it was one of the worst things that ever happened, ever.

Not a big John Denver fan.

I love most of Croce's stuff, but I'm a bit more selective on Denver (my mom prefers Lightfoot, while my dad preferred Croce and Denver); I could listen to "Rocky Mountain High", "Annie's Song", and "The Eagle and the Hawk" all day, but can do without most of the rest of his catalog

I love most of Croce's stuff, but I'm a bit more selective on Denver; I could listen to "Rocky Mountain High", "Annie's Song", and "The Eagle and the Hawk" all day, but can do without most of the rest of his catalog

Heh, I was just listening to "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" a couple of days ago.

The GOP tcot and the rwnj are busy complaining about the House caving, and yet Obama is essentially making permanent the Bush 2001 tax cuts on everyone but those making more than $400k. That's a pretty big accomplishment in a losing argument. They'll treat that as a huge loss, but it's a pretty significant thing.

In fact, if Obama were a GOPer, they'd be touting his latest achievement because it stands on the shoulders of an earlier GOP ideal - the individual mandate that was adopted as part of the Obamacare plan (right before the GOP and right wing turned the individual mandate in to a power grab/overreach argument that failed in the courts).

Indeed, those two particular items rebut any notion that Obama is a radical leftist, communist, socialist, or any other nonsense coming from the right. Far from a radical, Obama is governing from the center-right. Two of his significant legislative achievements (3 if you count the 2009 tax act), have been to extend ideals previously championed by the right.

If you're on the left, it's no wonder they're feeling down. Even when they manage to avert a real fiscal disaster, they see a loss on the long run.

Because prior to Obama, no US president gave any military support to Egypt apparently.

"For each year of 1976-2002, Israel was the largest recipient of U.S. military aid. Egypt was second-largest 1981-2002. Since 2002, Israel and Egypt have remained among the top four annual recipients of U.S. military aid."

It is at this time we should thank the Jewish people who voted for Obama twice. You might well have annihilated your people

This is only one reason the GOP pisses me off to no end. I cannot fathom the lack of perspective and hatred that the Party has evolved into.
It just pisses me off and even if they come up with a good idea every so often I just don't care.

Because prior to Obama, no US president gave any military support to Egypt apparently.

"For each year of 1976-2002, Israel was the largest recipient of U.S. military aid. Egypt was second-largest 1981-2002. Since 2002, Israel and Egypt have remained among the top four annual recipients of U.S. military aid."

Heh, I was just listening to "Thank God I'm a Country Boy" a couple of days ago.

That's the first Denver song I got to know well since the Orioles play it during the seventh inning stretch and I've been going to Orioles games for as long as I can remember. It was funny. I remember being 7 and seeing one of those ads for the best of Denver. I made fun of it because the music sounded tacky to me but it's hit me later that he was a good singer and songwriter. I was watching The Guard and they ended the movie with Leaving on a Jet Plane. Found myself singing- "So kiss me and smile for me, Tell me that you'll never let me go, Hold me like you'll never let go." Can really relate to Take Me Back Country Roads since I live near the Blue Ridge mountains and the Shenandoah.

FYI: If I'm ever in your neck of the woods and come over for pie, I'm bringing all my Gordon Lightfoot, John Denver, and Carpenters songs with me, and I'm going to practically bathe in patchouli. Maybe I'll bring some patchouli incense too. //

We'd just have to ignore that it was the US that helped Israel with funding and development of Iron Dome, and sold them the Patriot systems that are now helping defend against the potential rocket attacks coming from Gaza and/or Lebanon. Casualties in the last round of fighting were lower due to Israel's deployment of Iron Dome. And Iron Dome wouldn't have been possible without US support.

But I guess we have to ignore that. Well, some will in order to advance asinine arguments that Obama=bad.

Because prior to Obama, no US president gave any military support to Egypt apparently.

"For each year of 1976-2002, Israel was the largest recipient of U.S. military aid. Egypt was second-largest 1981-2002. Since 2002, Israel and Egypt have remained among the top four annual recipients of U.S. military aid."

Yep, I like "April Come She Will" a lot too. So much good music out there. It's a pity I won't hear it all. I really envy musicians because I know I'll never be a good one but I am content to be an observer.

Yep, I like "April Come She Will" a lot too. So much good music out there. It's a pity I won't hear it all. I really envy musicians because I know I'll never be a good one but I am content to be an observer.

Because prior to Obama, no US president gave any military support to Egypt apparently.

"For each year of 1976-2002, Israel was the largest recipient of U.S. military aid. Egypt was second-largest 1981-2002. Since 2002, Israel and Egypt have remained among the top four annual recipients of U.S. military aid."

I wonder if she knows that those weapons sales are part of the deal made with Egypt to secure that nation making peace with Israel. I wonder how she'd react if she knew that while some arms sales were made under Jimmy Carter, it was Ronald Reagan who allowed Egypt wider access to American arms, including M60A1 tanks far superior to Egypt's previous Soviet designs, in order to keep Egypt out of the Soviet fold as the Cold War heated up again in the 1980's.

Yep, I like "April Come She Will" a lot too. So much good music out there. It's a pity I won't hear it all. I really envy musicians because I know I'll never be a good one but I am content to be an observer.

That's the first Denver song I got to know well since the Orioles play it during the seventh inning stretch and I've been going to Orioles games for as long as I can remember. It was funny. I remember being 7 and seeing one of those ads for the best of Denver. I made fun of it because the music sounded tacky to me but it's hit me later that he was a good singer and songwriter. I was watching The Guard and they ended the movie with Leaving on a Jet Plane. Found myself singing- "So kiss me and smile for me, Tell me that you'll never let me go, Hold me like you'll never let go." Can really relate to Take Me Back Country Roads since I live near the Blue Ridge mountains and the Shenandoah.

I like one of Denver's recordings of "Leaving on a Jet Plane" (he wrote the song and recorded it more than once, a "slow" version and a more uptempo version; I prefer the "slow" version), but Peter, Paul, and Mary's version is the best, IMO

I like one of Denver's recordings of "Leaving on a Jet Plane" (he wrote the song and recorded it more than once, the "slow" version and a more uptempo version; I prefer the "slow" version), but Peter, Paul, and Mary's version is the best, IMO

Yep, I like "April Come She Will" a lot too. So much good music out there. It's a pity I won't hear it all. I really envy musicians because I know I'll never be a good one but I am content to be an observer.

My parents played music during dinner while I was growing up. Mix of classical, Broadway, and folk pop. So I was exposed to John Denver, Jim Croce, Simon & Garfunkel, plus a lot more from a fairly early age.

NPR had something on the remastered CD of Simon and Garfunkel released a few years ago, so I went out and picked it up. Another group of songs that pop up on my iTunes playlists.

Also heard a Mumford and Sons cover of the "The Boxer" while traveling over the holidays. An interesting variation in giving an Irish folk accent to an excellent song.

FYI: If I'm ever in your neck of the woods and come over for pie, I'm bringing all my Gordon Lightfoot, John Denver, and Carpenters songs with me, and I'm going to practically bathe in patchouli. Maybe I'll bring some patchouli incense too. //

My parents played music during dinner while I was growing up. Mix of classical, Broadway, and folk pop. So I was exposed to John Denver, Jim Croce, Simon & Garfunkel, plus a lot more from a fairly early age.

NPR had something on the remastered CD of Simon and Garfunkel released a few years ago, so I went out and picked it up. Another group of songs that pop up on my iTunes playlists.

Also heard a Mumford and Sons cover of the "The Boxer" while traveling over the holidays. An interesting variation in giving an Irish folk accent to an excellent song.

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That's why I like cover bands at bars. Cool to see people do their own stuff but I like seeing artists interpret the work of others too.

I like one of Denver's recordings of "Leaving on a Jet Plane" (he wrote the song and recorded it more than once, a "slow" version and a more uptempo version; I prefer the "slow" version), but Peter, Paul, and Mary's version is the best, IMO

That's why I like cover bands at bars. Cool to see people do their own stuff but I like seeing artists interpret the work of others too.

My brother and I had a conversation about musical covers over the holidays as well. You need to do a cover "different" than the best known versions since otherwise you are often coming across as a sub-par imitation. And then you get some covers that are coming out of left field as compared to the original (or best known) version. I recall a mid-80s cover of "Kashmir" that was totally instrumental and different tempo as well - but can't recall the band.

That's the first Denver song I got to know well since the Orioles play it during the seventh inning stretch and I've been going to Orioles games for as long as I can remember. It was funny. I remember being 7 and seeing one of those ads for the best of Denver. I made fun of it because the music sounded tacky to me but it's hit me later that he was a good singer and songwriter. I was watching The Guard and they ended the movie with Leaving on a Jet Plane. Found myself singing- "So kiss me and smile for me, Tell me that you'll never let me go, Hold me like you'll never let go." Can really relate to Take Me Back Country Roads since I live near the Blue Ridge mountains and the Shenandoah.

I liked his songs because they were (mostly) cheerful. With a few exceptions, I tend to like stuff that either makes me feel happy or has some kind of meaningful message.

Heh, some years back I was in Jamaica, Queens on a Saturday on a stretch of Jamaica Avenue where there are a bunch of stores, always a lot of ppl walking around, and music is often piped into the street via loudspeakers. "Let's Get it On" came on and everybody just went crazy--there was much dancing & singing along in the street. Gotta love New York--it was one of those New York moments (anyone who's lived in NYC knows what those are).

I liked his songs because they were (mostly) cheerful. With a few exceptions, I tend to like stuff that either makes me feel happy or has some kind of meaningful message.

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Heh, some years back I was in Jamaica, Queens on a Saturday on a stretch of Jamaica Avenue where there are a bunch of stores, always a lot of ppl walking around, and music is often piped into the street via loudspeakers. "Let's Get it On" came on and everybody just went crazy--there was much dancing & singing along in the street. Gotta love New York--it was one of those New York moments (anyone who's lived in NYC knows what those are).

My brother and I had a conversation about musical covers over the holidays as well. You need to do a cover "different" than the best known versions since otherwise you are often coming across as a sub-par imitation. And then you get some covers that are coming out of left field as compared to the original (or best known) version. I recall a mid-80s cover of "Kashmir" that was totally instrumental and different tempo as well - but can't recall the band.

And then there are things like this:

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Yeah that's a good point. I think that's why that Johnny Cash cover of Hurt is so popular because he really did his own thing with it.

I liked his songs because they were (mostly) cheerful. With a few exceptions, I tend to like stuff that either makes me feel happy or has some kind of meaningful message.

Exception #1

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Heh, some years back I was in Jamaica, Queens on a Saturday on a stretch of Jamaica Avenue where there are a bunch of stores, always a lot of ppl walking around, and music is often piped into the street via loudspeakers. "Let's Get it On" came on and everybody just went crazy--there was much dancing & singing along in the street. Gotta love New York--it was one of those New York moments (anyone who's lived in NYC knows what those are).

I made a radio ad for the shop with #3 as the music. Exceeded the 30 seconds, but the station played it anyway.

Iranian scientists, working under orders from the radicals running the Islamic regime, have genetically altered microbial agents in a nightmarish scheme to bring the West to its knees.

According to a source in the Revolutionary Guards intelligence unit with knowledge of Iran’s microbial research and development, the scientists, with Russian and North Korean help, currently possess eight extremely dangerous microbial agents that, if unleashed, could kill millions of people.

As reported exclusively on WND on Dec. 16, the source revealed the existence of a plant in Marzanabad, Iran, where 12 Russian and 28 Iranian scientists are working on microbial agents for bombs. At that time, the source disclosed that Iran was working on 18 agents, with four completed. He has now provided information that with work at two other plants, Iran has created a total of eight microbial agents, with research on insects to be used as the vector to infect the societies of its enemies.

The eight agents are anthrax, encephalitis (the blueprint of this virus, Venezuelan Equine Encephalitis, was provided by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez in an agreement two years ago with the Islamic regime), yellow grain (developed with the help of North Korea), SARS, Ebola, cholera, smallpox and plague.

Whirled Nut has a source in the Revolutionary Guards? I hope they are patriotic enough to share the take with the CIA. Somehow I doubt it though.

Whirled Nut has a source in the Revolutionary Guards? I hope they are patriotic enough to share the take with the CIA. Somehow I doubt it though.

Iran 'leaks' rumors like this, is the more likely scenario. By 'leaks' to nutbars, they can generate more people who will be afraid of war with Iran, which might keep other nations from attacking at all.

The 29-year-old Kulluk conical drilling unit was unmanned when it plowed into rocks on the southeast side of Sitkalidak Island Monday night in Alaska, and there were no major injuries.

But Coast Guard and Shell officials were still battling strong Tuesday to assess the full extent of environmental damage and figure out a plan for recovering the stranded rig.

About 139,000 gallons of ultra-low sulfur diesel and 12,000 gallons of lubrication oil and hydraulic fluid are estimated to be on board the vessel, mostly locked in the center of the double-hulled rig.

So, I guess nuclear weapons aren't scary enough for the wingnuts.
Got to got for weaponized ebola (lol, yeah right) and the like.

Well, weaponized Ebola was part of Iran's plot in the Tom Clancy novel Executive Orders. But in the real world, Iran would much prefer a nuke, since a properly constructed nuke is much harder than a bio-weapon to defend against and is far less of a threat to your own side.

Well, weaponized Ebola was part of Iran's plot in the Tom Clancy novel Executive Orders. But in the real world, Iran would much prefer a nuke, since a properly constructed nuke is much harder than a bio-weapon to defend against and is far less of a threat to your own side.

I bet you a weaponized ebola weapon will kill far fewer people than if those bombs were loaded with HEs.

He forgot that West lost, one of two Democratic pickups in Florida (the other being Allan "Lying Weasel" Grayson).

That's why I wasn't sure if it was serious. Even if West had won though, a second termer who's never even headed so much as a subcommittee running the House? Yeah good luck with that. Cantor would be a train wreck. West would be that times a 1000.

I bet you a weaponized ebola weapon will kill far fewer people than if those bombs were loaded with HEs.

Too many variables would have to be accounted for before the bet could even be made. It could go either way, depending on where and against who the weapons were delivered, their construction and reliability...

There are a lot of conservatives on Twitter saying exactly that. The base isn't happy. AT ALL. 2014 just got interesting if the bill passes the House.

Primary challenges galore. Conservatives are never happy. And it's going to end up biting them in the ass when they become more a minority. It's true that there are more conservatives than liberals in this country but it's also true that there are more moderates than both of them and moderate is arguably closer to liberal these days more and more especially on the hot button social issues.

Too many variables would have to be accounted for before the bet could even be made. It could go either way, depending on where and against who the weapons were delivered, their construction and reliability...

Yes folks, I'm a board gamer.

Which is why you'd wanna go the sure fire route of explosives.
Not many variables there.
And far easier.

Bryan Fischer really believes that Mitt Romney lost because he wasn't "conservative" enough. I arf you not.

Of course he does. There's a lot of people who believe that. They believed it about John McCain in 2008. Makes me wish just once and for all, they'd finally get a nominee they like and then we'd get to see said person landslided and we'd hopefully stop hearing that nonsense. The right wing pundits were really making a lot of hay out of the majority of polled Americans voting saying they preferred less government. This is true but what those pundits were ignoring is people were talking about less government in things like gay marriage, pot legalization, abortion rights, etc. Things that said conservative pundits are just fine with the government being involved in.

That could well be true, but why would anyone be surprised? Barack Obama wanting tilt the nation's political balance to favor his party and his policy preferences isn't shocking, it's normal and to be expected.

One day Santorum will retire and suddenly he'll be, "you see, I'm really an atheist and study Darwin."

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It's going to come out that a lot of them could give two shits about gay marriage and abortion but were using it to get elected. You saw that a lot with Southern politicians who opposed Civil Rights. And frankly, it's just as bad and in some ways worse than sincere opposition.

My brother and I had a conversation about musical covers over the holidays as well. You need to do
Back in the day, we would go to a venue to hear a new band trying out to be signed to our label.
Some of them would make the worst possible showcase mistake of covering song(s) of one of our label's more popular bands.
Instant turnoff to the label executives who decided the artistic viability of the showcased band. a cover "different" than the best known versions since otherwise you are often coming across as a sub-par imitation. And then you get some covers that are coming out of left field as compared to the original (or best known) version. I recall a mid-80s cover of "Kashmir" that was totally instrumental and different tempo as well - but can't recall the band.

And then there are things like this:

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Back in the day, we would go to a venue to hear a new band trying out to be signed to our label.
Some of them would make the worst possible showcase mistake of covering song(s) of one of our label's more popular bands.
Instant turnoff to the label executives who decided the artistic viability of the showcased band.

Have to admit while I am not high on libertarianism. Conservatives thinking that the libertarians will want to work with them is laughable. The libertarians I know pretty much see groups like Heritage and the GOP establishment as totally fucked up. They have no love for Obama but that doesn't mean they'd align with socon nuts simply because of some symmetry on economics.

Back in the day, we would go to a venue to hear a new band trying out to be signed to our label.
Some of them would make the worst possible showcase mistake of covering song(s) of one of our label's more popular bands.
Instant turnoff to the label executives who decided the artistic viability of the showcased band.

Yeah, I assume that when you're scouting talent that you want to hear something unique. Sounds like a neat job.

I doubt that works, even if Cullerton tries it. The same legislature rejected a less extreme bill in the fall. Something may come out of Newtown in Illinois, but it won't be anything moved through THAT fast. And its a rumor, too. I'll keep my eyes open, but until there's a bill its just a rumor.

Ok, that makes sense. It's just that when I think of Bible study, I think of Christian churches and potluck dinners.

Well you're not wrong to sense a disconnect there. The Christian "Bible" and the Tanakh are effectively not the same (no matter what evangelicals tell themselves). Common characters, but different structure, different translations, different interpretations, and of course the Bahble has the crappy Michael Bay-directed sequel tacked onto the end of the interesting-but-flawed Charlton Heston original.

(And before anybody accuses me of starting a holy war... Spare me... I don't care. I'm a hell-bound dirrty kuffar no matter where I go.)

I can't agree with that. Maybe the libertarians I know are more on the left leaning side but I disagree with you. Now that said, libertarian positions on economics and foreign relations suck. They're also a tad unpractical on social issues too.

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