TotalyMeow wrote:Actually, there never was any conclusive evidence that Russia was behind the hacking of the DNC. It's just what some people assumed and the media took up the assumption as useful to their narrative and decided it must be true. Now, everyone just thinks that's what happened.

What sort of evidence are you looking for? The server logs? Probably ain't gonna happen. At very least they won't post them on wnd, breitbart, drudge, infowars, or daily stormer. The cybersecurity firm hired by the DNC found IPs associated with both hacking orgs run by FSB and GRU, respectively. These are established, already known, groups. FBI, CIA, and NSA found same. Or, you know, a 400 pound dude on a bed bc Russian mob money launderer gameshow host foreign intel asset said so. He has the biggest crowds. How can we know anything? It's so hard. That pizza place in dc has child hooker slaves!!!

Evidence sufficient enough to prosecute, something that isn't made up from buzzfeed or CNN/MSNBC. Last I checked niether of those has happened.

yoohoo wrote:What sort of evidence are you looking for? The server logs? Probably ain't gonna happen. At very least they won't post them on wnd, breitbart, drudge, infowars, or daily stormer. The cybersecurity firm hired by the DNC found IPs associated with both hacking orgs run by FSB and GRU, respectively. These are established, already known, groups. FBI, CIA, and NSA found same. Or, you know, a 400 pound dude on a bed bc Russian mob money launderer gameshow host foreign intel asset said so. He has the biggest crowds. How can we know anything? It's so hard. That pizza place in dc has child hooker slaves!!!

Sure, there have been 'anonymous sources' on the Russian connection, and plenty of news reports as well. But there was never anything conclusive. Just like this assassination story has nothing conclusive and nothing but anonymous sources and various news reports that really mean nothing. It seems these days people choose what to believe from the news based on what they want to believe already. You hear something you like, you believe it because you like it, not because there's any proof that it's true. And that trend has just been getting worse in the last few months.

This assassination story is crap. So is the entire Russian collusion narrative that has gone on for months and hasn't actually gone anywhere.

yoohoo wrote:What sort of evidence are you looking for? The server logs? Probably ain't gonna happen. At very least they won't post them on wnd, breitbart, drudge, infowars, or daily stormer. The cybersecurity firm hired by the DNC found IPs associated with both hacking orgs run by FSB and GRU, respectively. These are established, already known, groups. FBI, CIA, and NSA found same. Or, you know, a 400 pound dude on a bed bc Russian mob money launderer gameshow host foreign intel asset said so. He has the biggest crowds. How can we know anything? It's so hard. That pizza place in dc has child hooker slaves!!!

Sure, there have been 'anonymous sources' on the Russian connection, and plenty of news reports as well. But there was never anything conclusive. Just like this assassination story has nothing conclusive and nothing but anonymous sources and various news reports that really mean nothing. It seems these days people choose what to believe from the news based on what they want to believe already. You hear something you like, you believe it because you like it, not because there's any proof that it's true. And that trend has just been getting worse in the last few months.

This assassination story is crap. So is the entire Russian collusion narrative that has gone on for months and hasn't actually gone anywhere.

"Assassination?" Some random dude got shot in America. Have you been here before? That happens every day. There's a decent Wired article about the traces of the DNC hack to Russia. There isn't any controversy about it in the Senate or House or among anybody, really. We do this crap to them, too. It isn't mysterious or unknown. Weird that we were dumb enough to fall for it, but whatever, Murka. Putin isn't a moron teevee host. He's a KGB officer. Let's try harder next time, guys. The Russia investigation is proceeding. Gone on for months? Like the Benghazi investigation?

yoohoo wrote:"Assassination?" Some random dude got shot in America. Have you been here before? That happens every day.

Yeah, that's what I've been saying. Too focused on yourself to pay attention?

There's a decent Wired article about the traces of the DNC hack to Russia. There isn't any controversy about it in the Senate or House or among anybody, really. We do this crap to them, too. It isn't mysterious or unknown. Weird that we were dumb enough to fall for it, but whatever, Murka.

Sure, Russia has been trying their best to interfere with us pretty much since we became a power in the world. We've been doing the same to EVERYONE else. However, no actual investigative agency has found anything solid. At best so far, there is some evidence that Flynn or Manafort might have been involved in some completely different wrongdoing.

Putin isn't a moron teevee host. He's a KGB officer. Let's try harder next time, guys. The Russia investigation is proceeding. Gone on for months? Like the Benghazi investigation?

I'm not sure what you mean. The "Trump is a pawn of Russia" thing has been the narrative being pushed since, what, January? November? There's no evidence of it, but it's still there and being focused on like it's actually a thing. Benghazi was hushed up to the point where you actually had to look for it to have any idea that anything was happening at all and that actually was something, it really WAS a major scandal. But the press so loved Obama that neither he nor anyone on his staff could do any wrong so it was mostly ignored.

yoohoo wrote:"Assassination?" Some random dude got shot in America. Have you been here before? That happens every day.

Yeah, that's what I've been saying. Too focused on yourself to pay attention?

There's a decent Wired article about the traces of the DNC hack to Russia. There isn't any controversy about it in the Senate or House or among anybody, really. We do this crap to them, too. It isn't mysterious or unknown. Weird that we were dumb enough to fall for it, but whatever, Murka.

Sure, Russia has been trying their best to interfere with us pretty much since we became a power in the world. We've been doing the same to EVERYONE else. However, no actual investigative agency has found anything solid. At best so far, there is some evidence that Flynn or Manafort might have been involved in some completely different wrongdoing.

Putin isn't a moron teevee host. He's a KGB officer. Let's try harder next time, guys. The Russia investigation is proceeding. Gone on for months? Like the Benghazi investigation?

I'm not sure what you mean. The "Trump is a pawn of Russia" thing has been the narrative being pushed since, what, January? November? There's no evidence of it, but it's still there and being focused on like it's actually a thing. Benghazi was hushed up to the point where you actually had to look for it to have any idea that anything was happening at all and that actually was something, it really WAS a major scandal. But the press so loved Obama that neither he nor anyone on his staff could do any wrong so it was mostly ignored.

None of this has anything to do with Obama. Full stop.

The Senate has just subpoenaed Flynn, Manafort, and their business records. We know that Manafort was a paid Russian agent. We know that Flynn was a paid Turkish / Russian agent. They all lied about it. Flynn, at the very least, broke the law by discussing sanctions with a known Russian FSB agent. Trump and Manafort both look like obvious money launderers for Russian mob / intel orgs. Investigation is just getting started.

Dude was a Sanders supporter with full access to the DNC, two weeks befor he is to testify to the FBI he is murdered, shot in the back twice with no items including cash and jewelry stolen. Then Wikileaks, literally the only people who actually know who provided the emails that were hacked, releases a reward to any info regarding the murder, says with no confusion that the leak was a worker in the state department. Julian Asaunge then suggests Rich was murdered over what he knew and in top of all that the PI investigateing the murder is saying on air he has a source in the PD that has evidence that Richs laptop had the emails that were leaked. Oh let's not forget that the PD has the entire investigation locked down and hushed up (contrary to normal robberys). If the murder was settled to be a botched robbery why not release the findings to the public I.e. Release his private property.

Btw this is the same corrupt government and association that has been illegally breaking search and seizure laws, cheated during a presidential primary and taken foreign moneys. Yet assasinating a whistle blower is beneath them?

But isn't pretty much all of that just rumors, Lazun? Last I saw, that PI had not actually said any of those things, it was all part of a news report that turned out to be untrue. Unless something has changed again, but it was so as of yesterday.