gdt wrote:Remember how L'Equipe leaked the UCI's 0 to 10 list of probability of doping use prior to the 2010 Tour de France? Here are the people mentioned in this week's news:0 (no suspicion): Michael Barry, David Zabriskie.1: George Hincapie4 (not even half way to 10): Lance Armstrong, Levi Leipheimer, Christian Vande VeldeHmmm.

[quote="der Ungar"]at present, the sport is continually dragged down by scandal after scandal and we don't really know who's riding clean and who's not, which is very damaging to cycling. There is much more mainstream press about doping scandals than events and performances. Permitting doping would level the playing field and provide transparency.

I'm not arguing in favour of doping - I'm saying there's a discussion worth having about whether using performance-enhancing agents is really that much of a leap from, say, using the new Speedo swimsuit at the Olympics, or a more aerodynamic cycling helmet, or a tennis racket with a bigger head and sweet spot./quote]

Hi der Ungar, Re ..." I'm saying there's a discussion worth having"

I reckon that discussion has been had, and it pretty much been agreed that doping is illegal.What I think you are suggesting is that doping be allowed to the top players and presumably by a nominated amount? Then we have to police that nominated amount? Don't make much sense to me .

The Chicken said he did the 2007 TdF on 5 blood bags, 100,000 units of EPO, cortisone and growth hormone. Remember who effortlessly kept up with him in the mountains? Contador. Meanwhile, Evans lost minutes and looked like he was going to die on mountain top finishes (whereas during his mountain bike days the Chicken couldn't keep up).

biker jk wrote:The Chicken said he did the 2007 TdF on 5 blood bags, 100,000 units of EPO, cortisone and growth hormone. Remember who effortlessly kept up with him in the mountains? Contador. Meanwhile, Evans lost minutes and looked like he was going to die on mountain top finishes (whereas during his mountain bike days the Chicken couldn't keep up).

Contador has been amazing in those days but was less than stellar on his return. No surprise there are questions asked.

Biciciclismo report Serebryakov as saying "I, Alexander Serebryakov, wish to clarify the matter of my recent positive doping control. I want to make it clear that the team has nothing to do with this situation, and that it is a personal problem that I will try to clarify in the next few days.

Team Euskaltel Euskadi and its technical, medical and support staff have always emphasized their commitment to zero tolerance with doping, and their work in favour of a clean, transparent and credible cycling. I deeply regret what happened, and I apologize to the team and my teammates for this unfortunate situation."

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