Singlespeed & Fixed Gear"I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five.
Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer? We are getting soft...As for me, give me a fixed gear!"-- Henri Desgrange (31 January 1865 - 16 August 1940)

Ok, so i am in my second year in college in Boston. And I have decided that i need / want to get a fixie. I am on a very tight buget, so keep that in mind. I want the bike to get to classes and to just plain get around the city (and maybe get in shape).

First, my father has 2 or 3 old road bikes (which i should be getting specs on them tomorrow) which he would give me. I am guessing that they are pretty heavy. One is prob 15 years old and never ridden, and the other(s) are prob around 30+ years old. second, i am 5' 11 3/4" tall and have an inseam around 83 cm (33").

So, will one of the *free bikes from my dad work as a conversion bike, or should i get a different used bike? What size should frame should i shoot to get?

Another thing i have heard is since the boston roads are so bad, i need to get heavtier tires...is that true?

Ok, so i am in my second year in college in Boston. And I have decided that i need / want to get a fixie. I am on a very tight buget, so keep that in mind. I want the bike to get to classes and to just plain get around the city (and maybe get in shape).

First, my father has 2 or 3 old road bikes (which i should be getting specs on them tomorrow) which he would give me. I am guessing that they are pretty heavy. One is prob 15 years old and never ridden, and the other(s) are prob around 30+ years old. second, i am 5' 11 3/4" tall and have an inseam around 83 cm (33").

So, will one of the *free bikes from my dad work as a conversion bike, or should i get a different used bike? What size should frame should i shoot to get?

Another thing i have heard is since the boston roads are so bad, i need to get heavtier tires...is that true?

(p.s. this is my first post!)

if you're looking to keep it on the cheap, you might want to consider doing a single speed to start and going fixed at a later time - it's hard to keep it safe if you're on a really tight budget with fixed.

if you are determined to go the fixed route though, you'll need at least a new rear wheel with a cog and lockring, and if the original cranks are cottered, a new bottom bracket, crank set, and chainring. in my opinion, it's not worth your trouble if it has a one-piece crank. make sure the bike has suitably long horizontal dropouts before you invest in anything, and no matter what, expect it to turn into a money-pit. if this sounds confusing, check out http://sheldonbrown.com/ - everything you could ever want to know on the subject.

there are a lot of other boston riders on these forums, so if you want advice on where to pick things up for the best prices, there's plenty of opinions to go around.

if you're looking to keep it on the cheap, you might want to consider doing a single speed to start and going fixed at a later time - it's hard to keep it safe if you're on a really tight budget with fixed.

ps. where do you go to school?

I go to Northeastern. I see a lot of fixed on campus.

What kind of cost coparison am i looking at for a fixed vs. a single speed (i take it a ss is on gear, but can free turn)? what is an avg cost to convert, say i have a bike w/ horizontal? w/ vertical?

a single speed can coast, whereas fixed, the pedals are constantly in motion as the wheels turn.

a bike with vertical dropouts is incredibly difficult to convert to ss/fg without an eno eccentric hub, so i won't recommend just avoiding that altogether, especially since you're on a budget.

here's a breakdown of the different parts you would need to convert the bike you linked to fixed gear:

new rear wheel: probably about $100. (if you're willing to mailorder, you can get a very nice wheel SET for 135)
cog: $20
lockring: $5
chain: $10
probably a new bottom bracket (i can't tell from the picture): $20
new crank set: $40
chainring: $20

so you're probably looking at about 200-250 dollars in addition to the cost of the frame, and you might want to replace things like tires and tubes, re-wrap the bars, etc.

no matter what, don't let anyone talk you into a "suicide hub" - if you go fixed, use a real track hub! sure, it's cheap, but it'll cause problems long-term.

if you wanted to do single-speed instead of fixed, you could conceivably get set up for about 150 dollars with a very solid setup. try someone's bike out to see if fixed is for you.

of course, used parts make everything cheaper, too.

did i answer your question?

oh, and i asked about school since i go to bu - always good to meet more bostonians!

EDIT: i didn't see that second bike you linked to - i can't really tell from the pictures, but it looks like it would be ok. that's the going rate here in boston (i've sold a few similar bikes for similar prices) but to be perfectly honest, it's not WORTH it... hold off and find a bike to convert - you'll learn how your bike works, so you'll be able to fix it when (and i do mean when, not if) it breaks. i mean, you said you're on a budget and shop repairs = $$$

Flip flop hubs are fine. It will cost about the same. If possible, get a fixed/fixed hub. You can run a single speed cog on a fixed thread, but you can't run a fixed cog on a single speed thread. Formula/nashbar/soma/iro/surly are all decent flip flop hubs that aren't too expensive. The suzue basics are also decent, but living in Boston, I would want a sealed hub. The only problem with french (peugot) bikes are that replacement bottom brackets can be expensive. YST just started making a threadless bb that will work for under $20, but I haven't heard how good/reliable they are yet.

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1) It will fit
2) It will work
3) It will have a warranty
4) You won't have to buy tools to convert it
5) You won't have to pay someone to convert it
6) You will be riding *5 minutes* after you buy it. (not 5 weeks)
7) If you leave now, maybe you can make it to the shop before it closes tonight.

If you want it to be unique, just then customize that one.

I know this sounds harsh, but this is sort of like saying, "I saw this 65 mustang. It doesn't run. But, I need a car to drive to work and class an stuff. I don't know much about cars. Should I restore it?"

Restoring it would be great...if it were your second car/bike. If you need to get riding, buy a bike that already does what you want it to do.

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Originally Posted by gtrob

Roadies can run tempo all year as that's what humans were designed for. If you want to be a cheetah, lay around and lick your paws more.

1) It will fit
2) It will work
3) It will have a warranty
4) You won't have to buy tools to convert it
5) You won't have to pay someone to convert it
6) You will be riding *5 minutes* after you buy it. (not 5 weeks)
7) If you leave now, maybe you can make it to the shop before it closes tonight.

If you want it to be unique, just then customize that one.

I know this sounds harsh, but this is sort of like saying, "I saw this 65 mustang. It doesn't run. But, I need a car to drive to work and class an stuff. I don't know much about cars. Should I restore it?"

Restoring it would be great...if it were your second car/bike. If you need to get riding, buy a bike that already does what you want it to do.

1) the vast majority of shops are staffed with incompentent or dishonest ****s. Unless you yourself are knowledgeable there is a reasonable chance you will be sent away with an improperly assembled or ill-fitting bike.
2) If you want to ride five minutes after you get it you will likely have to go to numerous shops, get a bike that is ill fitted or illsuited to your needs.
3) the expertise gained from building your own conversion saves you lots of money and hassle in the future. Why not obtain it right away. Same with tools
4) If you are going to "customize" it you need the tools anyway
5) Making a conversion != restoring anything. You just have to replace a wheel and maybe those parts that are meant to be periodically replaced.

1) the vast majority of shops are staffed with incompentent or dishonest ****s. Unless you yourself are knowledgeable there is a reasonable chance you will be sent away with an improperly assembled or ill-fitting bike.
2) If you want to ride five minutes after you get it you will likely have to go to numerous shops, get a bike that is ill fitted or illsuited to your needs.
3) the expertise gained from building your own conversion saves you lots of money and hassle in the future. Why not obtain it right away. Same with tools
4) If you are going to "customize" it you need the tools anyway
5) Making a conversion != restoring anything. You just have to replace a wheel and maybe those parts that are meant to be periodically replaced.

Dude, are you serious? Did a bike shop beat you up every day and take your lunch money when you were a kid or something?

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Originally Posted by gtrob

Roadies can run tempo all year as that's what humans were designed for. If you want to be a cheetah, lay around and lick your paws more.

Dude, are you serious? Did a bike shop beat you up every day and take your lunch money when you were a kid or something?

no but i have had dozens of experiences with incompetent bike shop employees. To suggest that buying your bike at a shop garauntees any of the things you said it does is absurd. I know you are just a schill for the NBDA but seriously, did a conversion beat you up everyday and take YOUR lunch money or something.