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Well I'm panicking about having the time to pick up all the Arceus I have sitting in various DW accounts before they take it down and I can't get them out. So I've set myself up to RNG them and I forgot just how hard entralink RNg really is
Plus as smogon is down I can't even reference the guide!! So can someone remind me how to use the eontimer (ie at which points do I press buttons etc on the 3 stage timer?)
As far as I remember, I start the timer at the same time I set my DS clock which is x minutes before my desired seed (x being the number eontimer tells me), this timer should finish at the time my Nature seed is so I press my relevant buttons and hit A to start game at that exact moment (if it's a little off I go by the Nature seed time). This starts the 2nd timer, now here's where I forget . . do I get to the menu to enter game and wait there til 2nd timer finishes then press A to enter game letting the c-gear turn on? This starts the 3rd timer at which point I am in game and get to the point where it says x warped to the entralink, I now wait and as 3rd timer finishes I hit A to go in, then catch my Arceus, check it's IV's to see how far off I was and adjust eontimer accordingly etc etc.

Someone please confirm, Thanks

At the end of the first timer you launch the game from the main menu (or SR if you prefer), at the end of the second timer you hit a to warp to the entralink from the "____ warped to the entralink" dialogue box (this is also the time at which you need to start the third timer) and finally, you hit A to start the battle at the end of the third and final timer. You should talk to the pokemon and select "Yes" when it asks if you want Arceus to join you at the end of the third timer.

Remember, do NOT turn on the C-gear until you are in game. The PID frame will start to advance as soon as it is on so you want to minimize the advancements it does before the final timer starts. The C-Gear will not advance the frame at the "____ has warped to the entralink" message so you need to turn on the C-gear in game and get to that point as fast as you can.

At the end of the first timer you launch the game from the main menu (or SR if you prefer), at the end of the second timer you hit a to warp to the entralink from the "____ warped to the entralink" dialogue box (this is also the time at which you need to start the third timer) and finally, you hit A to start the battle at the end of the third and final timer. You should talk to the pokemon and select "Yes" when it asks if you want Arceus to join you at the end of the third timer.

Remember, do NOT turn on the C-gear until you are in game. The PID frame will start to advance as soon as it is on so you want to minimize the advancements it does before the final timer starts. The C-Gear will not advance the frame at the "____ has warped to the entralink" message so you need to turn on the C-gear in game and get to that point as fast as you can.

Thanks Dewey, just needed that clarification, right off I go to get the first Arceus . . . this could take a while lol

Sorry Dewey me again, on that 3rd timer I get to Arceus, do I stand next to him letting him move then hit A when timer finishes, or do I talk to him straight away and get to the Arceus wants to join you team screen then hit A on yes at end of timer?
Thanks again

or do I talk to him straight away and get to the Arceus wants to join you team screen then hit A on yes at end of timer?
Thanks again

This. Any pokemon that move are WNPCs and they will throw off your PID frame. If you have more than just the pokemon you are RNGing in your forest, move them to the deepest clearing so that only your target is left there. Talk to it as soon as you get there to stop it from moving too much and hit A to select "Yes" at the end of the third timer. Don't worry if you have more than one pokemon in the forest and need to move them back, you can always move your next target out again when it is time to RNG them.

This. Any pokemon that move are WNPCs and they will throw off your PID frame. If you have more than just the pokemon you are RNGing in your forest, move them to the deepest clearing so that only your target is left there. Talk to it as soon as you get there to stop it from moving too much and hit A to select "Yes" at the end of the third timer. Don't worry if you have more than one pokemon in the forest and need to move them back, you can always move your next target out again when it is time to RNG them.

Thanks again, that's what I thought, only had 2 other event pokes in forest (Lucario and Porygon) and I'm not bothering to RNG them anyway so I'll take them out completely to make sure.
Had a couple of goes and been couple of seconds and frames out so need to do a bit of calibration, hopefully won't take me too long I need to do 2 Arceus a week to get them all done in time!! lol

Thanks again, that's what I thought, only had 2 other event pokes in forest (Lucario and Porygon) and I'm not bothering to RNG them anyway so I'll take them out completely to make sure.
Had a couple of goes and been couple of seconds and frames out so need to do a bit of calibration, hopefully won't take me too long I need to do 2 Arceus a week to get them all done in time!! lol

It's not like the PGL going down and switching over to gen 6 will remove the pokemon from your game or anything you know. As long as you have them in your game and not sitting in PGL, you can take as much time as you need.

It's not like the PGL going down and switching over to gen 6 will remove the pokemon from your game or anything you know. As long as you have them in your game and not sitting in PGL, you can take as much time as you need.

That's the problem, they are all sitting in the PGL. I created a load of dummy accounts to get 17 Arceus (one for each type) and I have a spare White cart which I've been playing through to the point I get c-gear, RNG it and then reset to do the next account. So I've gotta hurry lol

thnx for the help

Originally Posted by dewey911p

For the PIDRNG you really should just use a frame of 1. It is really easy to find a low delay on frame 1 that matches all of your criteria so there really is no need to use a frame any higher. If you want to use a higher frame, however, you can either call Joey or reject the egg. For example, if you want to use an egg frame of 3, you could either call Joey once (make sure he isn't waiting to rebattle you and remember that Joey will advance the RNGs by 2 frames, not one) and then generate the egg, or you can generate the egg, reject the first egg, generate the second egg, reject the second egg, and generate the third egg. That will be the egg you save and collect. It is recommended that you hatch the egg first to verify that iut is shiny, right ability, nature, gender, etc, that way you don't waste time hitting an IV delay to realize you missed the PID, but that isn't necessary.

As for the IVs, the process is the same. Hit delay, verify using Elm calls (Joey calls will work, but bear in mind that they advance the frame by 2, not 1, and they cannot be verified like Elm/Irwin calls can) collect egg and hope that one NPC didn't screw you over. Also, bear in mind that because of that one NPC, your starting frame might be higher. It is advisable you use a frame of 10+ for IVs so you have enough frames to verify your seed without passing your frame.

That's about it, pretty straightforward once you can hit a delay.

There is an updated version on Smogon ... but that isn't really an option at the moment. What I do is just find the pokemon I want and check the locations on Serebii's pokedex. For example, say you want a Magnemite and you see that they are catchable at locations 46 and 47. Go to the dex and go to the detailed page of Magnemuite locations (it looks like this) and you see the areas Magnemite is available are Virbank complex inside and outside. To find which is 46 and which is 47 you would go back to the encounter table and look at the levels. Location 46 has a lvl 10 and lvl 11 Magnemite and location 47 has a lvl 10 and lvl 12 Magenmite. Since the dex says Magnemite can only be caught at lvl 12 in the insiode portion of Virbank Complex, you now know location 46 us Virbank Complex outside and location 47 is Virbank Complex Inside. Ergo, Magnemite is on slots 3 and 7 for the outside portion of Virbank Complex (location 46) and slots 1 and 7 for the inside portion (location 47).

This may not always work with all locations, but you should be able to find one location for each pokemon, if not all of the locations, this way.

So when smogon gets going again I'll be able to find a updated Version of the black 2 encounterc table Correct?

For the PIDRNG you really should just use a frame of 1. It is really easy to find a low delay on frame 1 that matches all of your criteria so there really is no need to use a frame any higher. If you want to use a higher frame, however, you can either call Joey or reject the egg. For example, if you want to use an egg frame of 3, you could either call Joey once (make sure he isn't waiting to rebattle you and remember that Joey will advance the RNGs by 2 frames, not one) and then generate the egg, or you can generate the egg, reject the first egg, generate the second egg, reject the second egg, and generate the third egg. That will be the egg you save and collect. It is recommended that you hatch the egg first to verify that iut is shiny, right ability, nature, gender, etc, that way you don't waste time hitting an IV delay to realize you missed the PID, but that isn't necessary.

As for the IVs, the process is the same. Hit delay, verify using Elm calls (Joey calls will work, but bear in mind that they advance the frame by 2, not 1, and they cannot be verified like Elm/Irwin calls can) collect egg and hope that one NPC didn't screw you over. Also, bear in mind that because of that one NPC, your starting frame might be higher. It is advisable you use a frame of 10+ for IVs so you have enough frames to verify your seed without passing your frame.

That's about it, pretty straightforward once you can hit a delay.

There is an updated version on Smogon ... but that isn't really an option at the moment. What I do is just find the pokemon I want and check the locations on Serebii's pokedex. For example, say you want a Magnemite and you see that they are catchable at locations 46 and 47. Go to the dex and go to the detailed page of Magnemuite locations (it looks like this) and you see the areas Magnemite is available are Virbank complex inside and outside. To find which is 46 and which is 47 you would go back to the encounter table and look at the levels. Location 46 has a lvl 10 and lvl 11 Magnemite and location 47 has a lvl 10 and lvl 12 Magenmite. Since the dex says Magnemite can only be caught at lvl 12 in the insiode portion of Virbank Complex, you now know location 46 us Virbank Complex outside and location 47 is Virbank Complex Inside. Ergo, Magnemite is on slots 3 and 7 for the outside portion of Virbank Complex (location 46) and slots 1 and 7 for the inside portion (location 47).

This may not always work with all locations, but you should be able to find one location for each pokemon, if not all of the locations, this way.

So I take it that I have to stop advancing the frames right on the desired PID frame and that it's the same for the IVs?

So I take it that I have to stop advancing the frames right on the desired PID frame and that it's the same for the IVs?

Always stop 1 frame before your target. Generating the pokemon/egg/anything makes a call to the RNG and advances it by one. If you need frame 10, stop on frame 9 and generating the Egg/pokemon will make a call to the RNG and return the value for frame 10.

Always stop 1 frame before your target. Generating the pokemon/egg/anything makes a call to the RNG and advances it by one. If you need frame 10, stop on frame 9 and generating the Egg/pokemon will make a call to the RNG and return the value for frame 10.

Hi, I'm trying to RNG a Entralink DW Piplup I got a long while back that is still sitting in my extralink. Can any of you send me a link for the timer used to entralink RNG in Black 2 and what settings to imput?

Hi, I'm trying to RNG a Entralink DW Piplup I got a long while back that is still sitting in my extralink. Can any of you send me a link for the timer used to entralink RNG in Black 2 and what settings to imput?

sadly smogon is still doing matenence :/ once they get back up and running we can give you a site lava im getting a we will be back shortly notice at the moment still...they got hit with that same hacker as us...

Hi, I'm trying to RNG a Entralink DW Piplup I got a long while back that is still sitting in my extralink. Can any of you send me a link for the timer used to entralink RNG in Black 2 and what settings to imput?

Eon timer. You just need to hit your seed, then when you warp to the entralink you put the time displayed in RNGr's main window under PIDRNG --> Entralink into Eon Timer. The time will be displayed next to the frames, so just pick a frame you want, and use the time next to it.

Hey Dewey, need some more assistance lol
So I'm aiming for a delay of 3737, I've just hit 3740 amd then 3739 so I'm getting closer. But what I've noticed is I'm hitting the IV's 1 after those I need on these frames.
In other words my list of IV's is y y y 31,30,31,31,31,31, y y y y y so there are 5 more after the ones I want to hit, but on the 2 previous tries I've only had 4 more IV's after those I've hit.
Where am I going wrong on hitting the right IV's? What do I need to adjust? My frame is 21 and I have only 1 poke in my party and I easily get to Arceus before 128 steps pass. I'm sure I remember something about when the step count begins and how to reset it would that be my problem?

sadly smogon is still doing matenence :/ once they get back up and running we can give you a site lava im getting a we will be back shortly notice at the moment still...they got hit with that same hacker as us...

I just checked too and yeah I got the same message. It's funny (in an annoying sort of way) cos in the last few days it was like Smogon dropped of the face of the planet, the site wouldn't come up in any of my searches. So we have a new forum now. I wonder if this means that our post count and everything will be reset? I'd just created a trade shop on Smogon with all of my best RNGed pokemon before it got hacked.

Hey Dewey, need some more assistance lol
So I'm aiming for a delay of 3737, I've just hit 3740 amd then 3739 so I'm getting closer. But what I've noticed is I'm hitting the IV's 1 after those I need on these frames.
In other words my list of IV's is y y y 31,30,31,31,31,31, y y y y y so there are 5 more after the ones I want to hit, but on the 2 previous tries I've only had 4 more IV's after those I've hit.
Where am I going wrong on hitting the right IV's? What do I need to adjust? My frame is 21 and I have only 1 poke in my party and I easily get to Arceus before 128 steps pass. I'm sure I remember something about when the step count begins and how to reset it would that be my problem?

Since you have only 1 pokemon in your party, and since your IV frame is advanced by 1, it's obvious that you are tripping the step counter on your way to Arceus. Just run around for about 50 or so steps, save the game, and go from there. That should take care of the issue. If you are still tripping the step counter, take a few more steps, save, and repeat.

Since you have only 1 pokemon in your party, and since your IV frame is advanced by 1, it's obvious that you are tripping the step counter on your way to Arceus. Just run around for about 50 or so steps, save the game, and go from there. That should take care of the issue. If you are still tripping the step counter, take a few more steps, save, and repeat.

I thought that's probably what it was, thanks again. Getting there slowly lol

Hey Dewey, yes it's me again!! So I'm now hitting the right IV's the right time etc consistently but my delay is oh so slightly out just keep going over I'm aiming for 3737 but I keep hitting 3738-3743. I don't want to keep adjusting the eon timer cos I find that messes me up completely so I'm assuming hitting A a fraction earlier on one of the timers will get me the right results but which timer 2nd (to warp to entralink) or 3rd (to encounter Arceus). I was thinking 3rd which is what I'm trying but would like clarification. Thanks.
Then it really is just down to how quick my fingers are!!!

Hey Dewey, yes it's me again!! So I'm now hitting the right IV's the right time etc consistently but my delay is oh so slightly out just keep going over I'm aiming for 3737 but I keep hitting 3738-3743. I don't want to keep adjusting the eon timer cos I find that messes me up completely so I'm assuming hitting A a fraction earlier on one of the timers will get me the right results but which timer 2nd (to warp to entralink) or 3rd (to encounter Arceus). I was thinking 3rd which is what I'm trying but would like clarification. Thanks.
Then it really is just down to how quick my fingers are!!!

The second timer. The third timer is just for the nature so you can time how long the C-gear is on, but the first two stage timer is to hit the C-gear delay.

I have a question regarding TID SID abuse in HG. My usual delay is 495 so I chose a TID SID which had a similar delay, that is 499. So I currently have both the calibrated and target delay set to 499. Should I choose a higher/lower delay for this kind of RNG cos atm I can't get it to work. Also apparently the 2nd timer is supposed to end at the screen where Oak says "I'll see you later" the timer always ends way before that, help please?