This is what i was trying to say , Was callus in my own words , because of situations I am Personally Going through ! I am a Second Generation Mexican American Born in US . you can say White washed in some ways , But still Very Grounded in my roots ,I Personally Felt like i have been stabbed in the back & taken for granted !!! ........... I know Many Undocumented Peeps and many i would trust with my life .............. even the ones i that know the circumstances are embarrassed by their actions ................
Im Done !!!! Getting Too Ugly !

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You should be proud of your culture, yourself and your determined parents who enabled you to live here. You seem to be experiencing something common to recent immigrants - proud of what they achieved and rightfully resentful of being viewed the same as the most recent immigrant. It's not fair, but typical. Jews, Irish, Vietnamese, Japanese, Chinese, and Filipinos can all tell you similar stories.

For example, the first wave of Jews came in the 17th Century, and were mostly Sephardic (Iberian and Dutch). When the Central and Eastern European Jews immigrated in the 19th and 20th Century, they were looked down upon by the more established immigrants. But like all immigrants, they pulled themselves up by their bootstraps, and are actually now the majority of US Jews.

I attended a fancy charity dinner a few years back when I was doing such things, and I met a journalist whose family started here as migrant workers. He observed that the Latino population here will always be perceived as first generation because of the volume of immigration.

This culture treats all immigrants the same: like dirt. It takes at least a generation for each new group to gain acceptance.
Don't worry about it. It will pass, and you are here, part of the dream, and part of what makes this country great.

No one's arguing that non-citizens should get assistance. That's a no-brainer. Emergency medical service is completely different (and off topic). Just a short response to that: we all benefit from illegal immigration, mostly in the form of lower food prices. Why do you think a burrito at Taco Bell only costs $0.99 or a quart of OJ only $3... all thanks to the farmers and growers who are encouraging illegal immigration, their lobbyists, and the government regulators who turn a blind eye. The problem is not the illegals themselves, but our system which encourages them. Unless we start doing something to seriously discourage illegal immigration by cracking down on employers, we have a responsibility to these people because it's US who are taking advantage of THEM.

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This is bunk. I pay whatever it costs for my orange juice (surely not $6 per half gallon, though!) but I do not send missives to the growers/producers telling them that I want them to hire illegals to keep the price down. They decide that on their own, and I as the consumer just pay what it costs for the things that the manufacturers produce. I don't accept your assessment of blame on my part. It's not "US," it's those in positions to be able to take advantage of the illegals, and it's the illegals who are willing to get taken advantage of because it's actually a step up for them from where they came from. But you shouldn't be trying to include "the rest of us" in this blame game. If you feel guilty personally, that's your prerogative, but I don't consider myself culpable for these social ills.

Back to federal assistance programs, while I'm against people who abuse these programs, I think drug testing is a counter-productive way of tackling problems of cost. It's just going to make these programs more expense, and drug tests are notoriously easy to fool, so I don't think the money spent will be worth it. We have far bigger problems than drug users trying to abuse the system... maybe we should start with the banks and companies who are trying to abuse the system.

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It sounds to me like you're saying that they have us over a barrel. It's like the crooked people have gotten lucky in that we actually don't want to go to the expense to see that their wrongdoing is punished. I suppose there has never been a better time to be a leech on the system than right now. :shrug: