Former U.S. Marine hopeing for release from Iran prision after 2yrs.

www.abc12.com... Mothers letter to her son hopes the new political regime in
Iran will favor a pardon for her son, who was visiting an ill Grandmother.

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Maybe Iran should send there equivelent in and bust the wrongfully held people out of guantanimo!

In the letter, dated Feb. 18, he said that maltreatment in the notorious Evin Prison is such that his eyes “get blurry, my body does not have the
strength to walk, and my steps become very weak and shaky.”

No you sleep deprive, waterboard, sexualy abuse and tie prisoners up in painfull postition for hours on end in there own excrement.

Yeah Gitmo so much better

And you hold those people there indefinatly without any trial even though some have been found to be inocent and victims of Bounty hunters wanting a
quick buck or dumb CIA/MI6 agents who pick up the wrong man.

No you sleep deprive, waterboard, sexualy abuse and tie prisoners up in painfull postition for hours on end in there own excrement.

Yeah Gitmo so much better

And you hold those people there indefinatly without any trial even though some have been found to be inocent and victims of Bounty hunters wanting a
quick buck or dumb CIA/MI6 agents who pick up the wrong man.

The emotional conditioning
is strong with this one.

I understand that it has been trendy in the west for two generations
to equate our leaders and prisons with their leaders and prisons,
but
we are talking about a part of the world where

if we try to irrigate the desert and make it green they will shoot us
if we look at their girlfriend they will stab us
if we say the name Jesus they will hang us
and if we say "no secret executions" they will call us naïve

You really think we are loosing on a moral level, somehow?

I think this is a sign of suffering from enlightened projection.
Because a person views themselves and their own culture as enlightened,
they project the same level of reasonableness onto other cultures.

Nothing to do with emotion. Just logic.
If your going to demand a wrongfully imprisoned person who is likley being totured to be released then you should look at your own house too and
release some of the wrongfully imprisoned people your holding and being totured.

It hypocritical to ask one country to do one thing when your doing it yourself!

Originally posted by mikegrouchy
we are talking about a part of the world where

if we try to irrigate the desert and make it green they will shoot us
if we look at their girlfriend they will stab us
if we say the name Jesus they will hang us
and if we say "no secret executions" they will call us naïve

If you dont like it dont go there. End of. I dont like it so Tehran is not on the top of my places to vist.

Originally posted by mikegrouchy
You really think we are loosing on a moral level, somehow?

Not on the whole but you are when it comes to imprsioning innocnet people and totureing people. You cant condem Iran when your doing it yourself.

Sort Gitmo out then start asking for your own people back.

Originally posted by mikegrouchy
I think this is a sign of suffering from enlightened projection.
Because a person views themselves and their own culture as enlightened,
they project the same level of reasonableness onto other cultures.

No idea what point your makeing here. Just sounds like yanky doodle bull crap .

Maybe Iran should send there equivelent in and bust the wrongfully held people out of guantanimo!

In the letter, dated Feb. 18, he said that maltreatment in the notorious Evin Prison is such that his eyes “get blurry, my body does not have the
strength to walk, and my steps become very weak and shaky.”

I agree, Gitmo is a much better place than Iranian prisons. At least Gitmo prisoners get to be force fed and commit suicide due to unprovable
incriminate detention and no hope of a trial. Just think, with the new National Defense Act, any American can be indefinitely incarcerated without a
trial on the accusation of being a terrorist. If the Iranians could only be like us.

Only the lowest scum governments kidnap civilian hostages.Though many here aren't intelligent enough to distinguish between them and armed
battlefield combatants we do.Kidnapping civilians who don't even cross their poor or unmarked borders,THEN threaten life in prison or execution.We
should have wiped these barbarians out along time ago starting with the supposed holy mullahs!

Originally posted by TDawg61
Only the lowest scum governments kidnap civilian hostages.Though many here aren't intelligent enough to distinguish between them and armed
battlefield combatants we do.Kidnapping civilians who don't even cross their poor or unmarked borders,THEN threaten life in prison or execution.We
should have wiped these barbarians out along time ago starting with the supposed holy mullahs!

Sorry, but I didn't get the message. Would you mind elaborating with specifics?

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