Murray, that is the Americanized version of Sir Winston Churchill's famous statement, "Asking Great Britain to surrender part of her sovereignty is like asking a maiden to surrender part of her virginity." You have to admit that he really could cork them off! Regards, Walter

P.S. "Live free or die," is the State Motto of New Hampshire, coming down from the American Revolution. I love the sentiment.

Murray, what time is it over there (New Zealand) right now? It is 2:06 A.M., EST. here, in New York State. I believe it is twelve hours difference, right? So that would make it 2:06 P.M., Saturday, January, 24, over there, I think. Regards, Walter