Well, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em. I'm goingto give the in-line muzzle loader a try. I have been looking at a lot of different ones and I want the Triumph.Actually I want the Bone Collector but I'm getting a brand new Triumph for near nothing.

It's a done deal, I've made up my mind. What I was looking forwas some insight from people that have shot this or the Bone Collector. I have heard that it's finicky with primers.I can't use Sabots for hunting in MT. Any suggestions on the next best thing. Just looking to save a couple bucks instead of investing in a lot of stuff I'll only partially use.

What I'm not interested in is, whatever brand of Muzzleloaderyou have or like or think is better. I don't care, start your ownthread on how great YOUR ML is. I do thank in advance thosewith some first hand knowledge that are kind enough to share.

Top, I hunt with a TC Renegade in.54 Cal and have killed deer and elk with a round ball. I have also used a Minie' in appropriate diameter. The old stuff really works just the same as it did in the "olden days" with the same yardage restrictions. Just think of your muzzle stuffer as a bow that goes bang.Waynein MT.

I had to go check my loads for the .54. Most accurate to 50 yards, not for hunting larger game, 55gr FF .530 patched round ball.Hunting deer same ball 90gr FF, and elk 110gr FF. The grains are in black power (loose) by volume. I can't help with pelletized power, would like to try some some day when my supply of Goex runs out. Hope this helps.