Here's how you stop and deter Putin. it is how George Bush got the job done in 2008 in Georgia.

Bush started out by talking to him face to face in Beijing and letting him know, man to man, that it was not going to go as Putin imagined.

Bush faces down Putin at Beijing Olympics over Georgia

We had military advisors already on the ground there. Bush immediately expedited the return of 2,000 members of Georgia's 31st Light Infantry Battalion who had been fighting beside US Marines in Afghanistan.

He then sent in more US personnel and material on C-130s and C-17s...direct to Tiblisi and immediately (which is what we should be doing right now to Kiev). When those US C-17s and C-130s went in, they had a lot of US personnel on them in addition to the supplies and material...and that was in addition to the military personnel we already had there.

Bush did not pull those out...he added more to it and made it clear to Putin that a push into and through Tiblisi was going to put the US Military in the line of fire and that Putin DID NOT WANT TO DO THAT.

In addition, in short order, three US warships and three NATO warships entered the Black Sea. Some brought supplies, others stood by and defended them. The three NATO warships and one of the US warships were top of the line surface combatants with two AEGIS vessels and two other guided-missile vessels.

Putin knew that Bush meant what he said. He had seen it already time and again over the seven years prior. He consiodered the cost of rolling over those US personnel and what the consequences would be, and he knew there would be very severe consequences with a heavy interest payment.

The following are all pictures from the events of the day, during the Georgian crisis, of us material, more advisors, equipment flowing in. Of US advisors already on the ground and training Georgian forces immediately prior to and during the crisis, and US and NATO warships all sent into the Black Sea during the crisis.

US C-130 Aircraft being off loaded at Tiblisi

US C-17 Aircraft being off loaded at Tiblisi

US C-17 Aircraft departing Ramstein for Tiblisi

US Advisor congratualting Georgian soldiers

US Advisors training Georgian soldiers

US Advisors training Georgian soldiers

US Advisors training Georgian soldiers

US General congratualting Georgian soldiers

Georgian soldiers returning from Afghanistan

Georgian soldiers being blessed by Orthodox Georgian Priest on returning from Afghanistan

US Naval personnel offloading material

US Coast Guard Cutter arrives and cosk at Georgian Port

US Coast Guard Cutter entering the Black Sea

US Navy Command Ship enters the Black Sea

US Navy AEGIS Destroyer enters the Black Sea

Spanish AEGIS Destroyer enters the Black Sea

German Guided-missile Destroyer enters the Black Sea

Polish Guided-missile Frigate enters the Black Sea

Bush drew a stark line in the sand...and he did it with the US military even as the Russian forces were nearing the capitol...and Putin paused, and then stopped, and negotiated.

Now THAT'S how you deter a man like Putin. Stop talking and start acting.

We need this type of leadership niow...or we may see first the Ukraine, and then the Balkans, and later mopre of Eastern Europe descend back into Russian denomination, which could start a truly major war. Stop him now...it will not get easier later.

That won’t happen with Obama and his military advisors who know what is what have all been replaced by PC toadies. None of them would read this post and feel anything but disgusted with such maneuvers.

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posted on 03/01/2014 10:46:11 PM PST
by GeronL
(Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)

Georgia/Грузя is one thing, the Ukraine is something else. Vladimir Putin is NOT going to just sit there and let George Soros, Monsanto, and the US state department walk off with the Ukraine. Once Putin stopped the Georgian invasion of autonomous South Ossetia, he had no other really pressing business in Georgia.

That would indeed work. The question is why? The first maidan movement was turned violent by Nazi quoting Right Sector types who violently overthrew the seat in Kiev. They did it without the slightest proof they represent a majority. They were just more violent.

So why should we risk war with Nuclear Russia for people who are enthusiastically supported by the MSM, Kerry, McCain, Hillary, Obama, and the EU leadership?

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posted on 03/01/2014 10:50:21 PM PST
by DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)

B) That number is an microscopic fraction of the Ukraine’s population. The occupy crowd was just as numerous and more widespread.

C) The Nazi sympathizing factions took over that square with an iron fist by mid december.

D) The actual Nazi party was very very small in the beginning, but nobody dared stand against them. Just like radical islamists, they don’t need to be the majority to call the tune. Their violent nature makes others afraid to oppose them.

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posted on 03/01/2014 11:05:21 PM PST
by DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)

Bull. Apart from breakaway regions Georgia had a stable pro-American government. In Ukraine you don’t have any stable government but uncontrolled armed groups of whatsoever affiliation running wild with all kinds of weapons. Kiev doesn’t control a thing there as far as a dozen Russians arrives at major airbase and captures it without a shot fired. And Ukrainian naval flagship flies a Russian St.Andrew.
Not even a Ukrainian military decided which is their side, let alone Ukrainian people and you want to intervene, on part of whom?
Imagine a US warship sunk or aircraft shotdown. Whom will you blame for it? Russians, Muslims, Nazis, Anarchists, Isolationists?

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