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Right now I'm kind of stuck between the Denon and Onkyo. The Onkyo has wifi which would make it real easy to stream music. It also decodes quite a few more formats, but I've seen more negative reviews. Not a ton but moreso than Denon and I have seen a few people who reviewed both consider the Denon a tad better on sound. I think Onkyo sells a lot more which would reflect a few more negative reviews when put in context. However, the Denon has an ethernet and no wifi, and that would require me running an ethernet cable under the house or buying one of those expensive ethernet into WiFi adapters.

Both are pretty good. I personally have more experience with Denon and have found the clarity and evenness of the sound to be excellent. Of course, this all does depend on the speakers. What speakers will you be running this through?

Right now I'm using an older Yamaha through some Definitive Technologies speakers.

Thanks for your thoughts. Right now I'm using a pair of old AAL's I bought at the same time I bought the Kenwood receiver. They are over 20 years old and still sound pretty decent. Right now I just want the best bang for the buck on a receiver and hopefully closer to black friday and Christmas I can possibly upgrade on the speakers. First things first...I hate watching football without good sound.

When you're ready to upgrade speakers, let me know. I design home theater speakers from scratch. With $150, I can absolutely destroy anything you find retail for $1000 or less. That is, if you don't mind doing a little bit of work yourself.

Most Class A/B receivers will sound pretty similar. Ignore the power output ratings; they're complete BS. You'll probably get about 75-80W RMS x 2 channels on either of those.

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"When freedom is at odds with government policy, one of two things eventually happens: Either freedom is crushed, or political leaders are forced out in disgrace and replaced with guardians of individual liberty."

"...the Supreme Court has ruled that the right to keep and bear arms exists independently of the Second Amendment...the Bill of Rights is a reminder to the government, not [an] authorization..."

When you're ready to upgrade speakers, let me know. I design home theater speakers from scratch. With $150, I can absolutely destroy anything you find retail for $1000 or less. That is, if you don't mind doing a little bit of work yourself.

Most Class A/B receivers will sound pretty similar. Ignore the power output ratings; they're complete BS. You'll probably get about 75-80W RMS x 2 channels on either of those.

You have piqued my interest for sure. I would definitely be interested. Are you talking about making the boxes and assembling them at home?

You have piqued my interest for sure. I would definitely be interested. Are you talking about making the boxes and assembling them at home?

I was more referring to using a proven design by a well-engineered speaker. There are many such designs available for free, where the schematic is provided for you. You can even buy very nice pre-made cabinets on partsexpress.com, and all you'd need to do is find someone with a router to route the mounting holes. The rest is simple soldering of large parts according to a schematic. Quite a lot of fun, and the results blow away anything you find in a store.

"When freedom is at odds with government policy, one of two things eventually happens: Either freedom is crushed, or political leaders are forced out in disgrace and replaced with guardians of individual liberty."

"...the Supreme Court has ruled that the right to keep and bear arms exists independently of the Second Amendment...the Bill of Rights is a reminder to the government, not [an] authorization..."

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