Just wanted to tell all you young guns who think the CSL is th freaking best gun ever. My friend was like Oh my friend has a dye NT. that's the best fun ever. -__- I actually think the PM8 is better than the geo2. Shot both and honestly think it's smoother. I think the vanguard creed is better than an NT. The NTs just more accurate. That's that.

It's all about personal preference...I love my csl along with my luxe...does that mean you need to like it?...nope...At the end of the day...they all shoot paintballs out and it comes down to the player.

Just wanted to tell all you young guns who think the CSL is th freaking best gun ever. My friend was like Oh my friend has a dye NT. that's the best fun ever. -__- I actually think the PM8 is better than the geo2. Shot both and honestly think it's smoother. I think the vanguard creed is better than an NT. The NTs just more accurate. That's that.

Well without barrels I'm gonna agree.!I had the chance to shoot my creed and my teammates NT. with their stock barrels though the Nt has more of a consistency of the "straight shot" while the creed curves and drops more frequently.

two guns shooting the same paint through the same barrel with the same bore sizing at the same velocity will shoot it the same. Guns don't affect the accuracy of the shot. I don't care what your empirical evidence showed you. The only thing they can even affect would be the consistency of the shot ie: maintaining a shot w/o drop off at a high rof.

Just wanted to tell all you young guns who think the CSL is th freaking best gun ever. My friend was like Oh my friend has a dye NT. that's the best fun ever. -__- I actually think the PM8 is better than the geo2. Shot both and honestly think it's smoother. I think the vanguard creed is better than an NT. The NTs just more accurate. That's that.

Well my personal opinion if your ****ing retarded, FWEAKING, and the csl is an Ego 11 which, is one of the best guns on the market along with the Luxe 1.5, and dye NT11, the bob long series follows right behind it. I own a luxe, have owned an SL94 and ETEK2 and I will say, confidently, that my luxe is the smoothest shooting gun and quietest I have EVER seen, not your PM8. High end guns are lighter, interiorly and exteriorly supreme and have a higher customizable and user friendly region than mid-lower ends. Your friends an idiot if he cant tune a geo2 to shoot like it should.

Just wanted to tell all you young guns who think the CSL is th freaking best gun ever. My friend was like Oh my friend has a dye NT. that's the best fun ever. -__- I actually think the PM8 is better than the geo2. Shot both and honestly think it's smoother. I think the vanguard creed is better than an NT. The NTs just more accurate. That's that.

more accurate ?? and the creed is better than a nt huh . . .sounds like you are a poppit fan and need to shoot a g6r , and by the way all dye guns shoot awesome but are hard to maintain , so im guessing by your statements so far that you or your friends cant properly maintain a paintball marker , try asking your local pbtech for assistance , maybe you'll get lucky and get one who is not a totally

the type of marker is only as good as the one using it. you may have the highest priced marker, but are you good with it? buying the best doesnt mean it will make you better. if you are an awesome player, you will be able to rock anybody with just about any marker out there. thats my opinion.

Highest Price gun is not always the best at all... I sold my Vice to get a pooty modded luxe and let me tell you... That Vice with an OLED board and a few ups was a hell of alot faster, quieter, more efficient and accurate than the luxe.