French Presidential Candidate: Islamic ‘Preachers of Hate Should Be Expelled, Their Mosques Closed’

PARIS — French presidential candidate Marine Le Pen told reporters on Friday that the country should ban Islamic hate preachers and close their mosques in light of the most recent terror attack in the nation.

“Our country France has once again had the barbarity of a terrorist assault in the heart of our capital,” she said. “Once again it was the police who were targeted and paid for the fight against radical Islam with their blood. It is a monstrous ideology which has declared war on our nation, on our reason, and on our civilization.”

“The Islamist, Salafist ideology has no right to be in France and should be banned. Preachers of hate should be expelled and their mosques closed,” Le Pen declared.

On Thursday, Karim Cheurfi, 39, who had previously been convicted of attempted murder, opened fire on a police van with a Kalashnikov, killing officer Xavier Jugelé, 37. Police became involved in a shootout with Cheurfi, which resulted in the terrorist’s death. Two officers were injured during the confrontation.

According to the Associated Press, Cheurfi carried a note in his pocket during the Paris attack that expressed support for ISIS. The terrorist organization has also claimed responsibility for the violence.

President Francois Hollande condemned the shooting as a “cowardly killing,” advising that he was certain it was an act of terror.

“We shall be of the utmost vigilance, especially in relation to the election,” he stated.

But Le Pen, the Front Nationalist leader, said that the French government has not been hard enough on Islamic militants. She put forward that the nation should expel those of dual nationalities who are considered to be a terror risk and give “immediate administrative or criminal attention” to Frenchmen “known for their support of an enemy ideology.”

She also recommended that Islamic hate preachers be deported and their mosques shut down.

“This war is asymmetric and revolutionary. It is a war in which all the population, all the country is targeted. It is obviously a war we cannot lose,” Le Pen said.

French Prime Minister Bernard Cazeneuve, however, criticized her statements, opining that she was needlessly causing fear and division.

“The Front National candidate, just like every attack, seeks to divide and manipulate. She is shameless trying to exploit fear and emotion to exclusively political ends,” he claimed. “We must not give in to fear, intimidation, manipulation and not fall into division and extremes … tolerance must win, unity must prevail.”

According to Reuters, “France has lived under a state of emergency since 2015 and has suffered a spate of Islamist militant attacks mostly perpetrated by young men who grew up in France and Belgium and that have killed more than 230 people in the past two years.”

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Amos Moses

so looking at the photo above …… kind of looks like she has blood running from the corner of her mouth …… its just a shadow of the microphone …….. but ………… vampiric ……….

Robinske2

For the “Islam is Peace” believers- can anyone show by using Koranic scripture that Islam is peaceful and these murders throughout the world are condemned by Mohammad and the Koran?
I’ve been asking for this book to be written by an Islamic scholar(s), but nothing yet. There is, however, a lot of material using Koranic scripture that murder is encouraged by the Koran and was practiced by Mohammad himself. The entire Islamic religion needs to be evaluated and perhaps classified as hate speech.

Svens Naumočkins

How can people even consider it as a religion

I will say it directly: It is a guide for killers and for rapists, and nothing else

Chris

“…can anyone show by using Koranic scripture that Islam is peaceful and
these murders throughout the world are condemned by Mohammad and the
Koran?”

“… do not take the life God has made sacred, except by
right. This is what He commands you to do: perhaps you will use your
reason.” (6:151)

“We decreed to the Children of Israel that if anyone kills a
person – unless in retribution for murder or spreading corruption in
the land – it is as if he kills all mankind, while if any saves a life
it is as if he saves the lives of all mankind.” (5:32)

Hope that helps. I’d suggest if you’re really serious about your question you ask it in an Islamic forum. You’d be far more likely to find someone knowledgeable to provide the info than you will asking your question on a Christian site.

Robinske2

I looked up these scriptures to see the context they were taken from- especially 5:32 since I was aware that is sometimes used by Islamic apologists (and liberals) to prove Islam condemns murder. 5:32 leaves a lot open since it says “except if mischief is spread”. Check out 5:33 to see what is to be done by who spreads mischief:

“Indeed,
the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and
strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed
or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides
or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in
this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,”

And on 6:151, I do not get any warm feelings that this verse is not allowing murder since you happened to leave out the part about “murder by legal right” whatever that means.

Say,
“Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited to you. [He
commands] that you not associate anything with Him, and to parents, good
treatment, and do not kill your children out of poverty; We will
provide for you and them. And do not approach immoralities – what is
apparent of them and what is concealed. And do not kill the soul which
Allah has forbidden [to be killed] except by [legal] right. This has He
instructed you that you may use reason.”

Chris

If your point is that there are verses which seem to accept violence then I would agree. Just like there are in the bible. And like the bible there are also verses which condemn violence in the Quran.

If you’re saying we should consider the Quran an incitement to violence because of select verses then we should do the same with the bible.

Robinske2

OK- In the new testament, name a verse that incites violence. As far as the Koran is concerned, you offered 2 verses, neither actually is as strong as “Thou shalt not kill” or “Do good to those who despitefully use you”. Koranic verse 5;32 & 33 actually incites murder if it’s deemed the guilty are spreading mischief. 6:151 is confusing at best, but certainly seems to allow for murder if it’s by legal right- perhaps that’s the reason for fatwas. Pretending Islam is equivalent to Christianity and advocates peace without any basis in the Islamic holy book is not addressing the issue on why about 99% of the terrorist attacks are by Muslims.

Chris

“OK- In the new testament, name a verse that incites violence”

Strange how it’s got to be just the new testament & not the whole bible. But ok. In a parable Jesus is portrayed as ordering the deaths of those who refuse to acknowledge him as king Luke 19: 27

“As far as the Koran is concerned, you offered 2 verses, neither actually
is as strong as “Thou shalt not kill” or “Do good to those who
despitefully use you”.”

Yep. And yet the God of the Old Testament ordered genocide. Strange how there are exceptions to that don’t kill rule.

Chris

Here’s what experts say about the violent verses in the bible.

“Scholar Nur Masalha writes that the “genocide” of the extermination commandments has been “kept before subsequent generations” and served as inspirational examples of divine support for slaughtering enemies.

Arthur Grenke claims that the view of war expressed in Deuteronomy contributed to the destruction of Native Americans and to the destruction of European Jewry.

Niels Peter Lemche asserts that European colonialism in the 19th century was ideologically based on the Old Testament narratives of conquest and extermination and that some radical Zionist groups have brought the same idea to bear in Israel.

Scholar Leonard B. Glick states that Jewish fundamentalists in Israel, such as Shlomo Aviner, consider the Palestinians to be like biblical Canaanites, and that some fundamentalist leaders suggest that they “must be prepared to destroy” the Palestinians if the Palestinians do not leave the land.[39] Several scholars draw similar conclusions.

The Book of Revelation has been used to justify Christian hostility, Christian imperialism and Christian sectarian violence

Musky

OK, she’s right.
But… the Russians have tagged Jehovah’s Witnesses as “extremists,”
and most progressives in America also tag evangelical Christians as “extremists” and “bigots” and “Talibangelicals.”

You see how this works, folks? Once a government takes a notion to suppress “preachers of hate,” they end up going after “preachers WE hate.” We’ve already had that vile lesbian mayor in Texas who believed she had the power to censor sermons.

Robinske2

You bring up some good points- once the government is given the power to determine what hate speech is, it’s only a matter of a few years before some Democrat will use it to start closing churches that won’t perform gay marriages, support abortion on demand, and so on.
Maybe the way to address Militant Islam is to simply not consider it a religion, but a political party. That way they aren’t entitled to have Islamic chaplains in prisons, the military, schools, etc. We also ought to be able to tell the Saudis they can’t build mosques in America so long as Churches aren’t allowed in SA.

Sisyphus

So, you’d be cool with American built mosques? I’m sure the folks developing a tri-faith center here in Omaha will be relieved at your anamorphic sense of tolerance.

michael louwe

The fact that nearly all terrorists today are Muslims and not Christians seems to escape you.
……. It is also a fact that some of these Muslim terrorists were incited to hatred by a few Muslim preachers in mosques.

Do you wanna allow communism and the Mafia to run riot in USA.?

Michael C

The Russian government has banned an entire religion and has seized all of their property.

In our country, we’re guaranteed the freedom of religion. Some people criticize other peoples’ religion, but that’s also protected by our Constitution. Those who you refer to as “progressives” may be critical of the actions of your church, but I imagine there are some in your church who are critical of the actions of some other denominations or religions. This is hardly persecution. I truly don’t understand your attempt at a comparison between what’s going on in Russia to “progressives” here in the U.S. hurting your feelings.

We’ve already had that vile lesbian mayor in Texas who believed she had the power to censor sermons.

It appears you have been deceived. This never happened. It never happened. After some pastors sued the city, the city’s lawyers requested the transcripts of any public statements the pastors may have made concerning the subject of the lawsuit. After a deceptively orchestrated public uproar, the city dropped the request.

No one ever attempted to censor any sermons. It just never happened. The fact that you think it happened only shows how deceptive some organizations and individuals (ADF, FRC, Todd Starnes) can be.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

False. That’s just the God-haters spin on it. Thankfully, you’ve just made yourself look like a fool again because anybody who wants to take the time can go check it out for themselves.

That regurgitated pablum is just the typical Liberal modus operandi. It’s as old as Satan himself and just like him.

Michael C

You have the opportunity here to correct anything that you may believe I have misstated.

Johndoe

He won’t.

Amos Moses

the sole and only purpose to ask ….. WAS INTIMIDATION ………… to BULLY …….. to SILENCE them ………

Royce E. Van Blaricome

Matt. 7:6 & 10:14

Johndoe

Prove him wrong.

Royce E. Van Blaricome

TROLL ALERT!!!!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ TROLL ALERT!!!!!!!

Typical Troll behavior. By very definition.

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.

From Psychology Today: “Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists. An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.”

Johndoe

LMAO! Royce sticks fingers in ears and yells Na Na Na Na Na!

Royce E. Van Blaricome

TROLL ALERT!!!!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ TROLL ALERT!!!!!!!

Typical Troll behavior. By very definition.

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion,[3] often for their own amusement.

From Psychology Today: “Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists. An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.”

Amos Moses

“In our country, we’re guaranteed the freedom of religion.”

they are guaranteed that freedom in Russia also ……. and in other “Republics” ….. means nothing to those in power ……

“It never happened. After some pastors sued the city,”

AFTER …. operative word ….. so IT DID HAPPEN …… amazing denial and LYING …..

Michael C

AFTER …. operative word ….. so IT DID HAPPEN …… amazing denial and LYING …..

Reading comprehension.

No, …… IT DIDN’T HAPPEN ….. ….

No, no sermons were ever censored. No church was told what they can or cannot preach. It didn’t happen. I described what actually happened. No censorship of any kind was involved.

Amos Moses

michael ….. you and your LGBLTQQP? friends can tell any lie you want to ….. does not make it the truth ….. they ATTEMPTED …. that means they DID …… whether they succeeded or not is not relevant …… they THOUGHT they had the authority to do it …… and it was a homofascist move …….. they DID IT …….

Michael C

….. they ATTEMPTED …. that means they DID …… whether they succeeded or not is not relevant …… they THOUGHT they had the authority to do it …… and it was a homofascist move …….. they DID IT …….

Did you read my comment? No, they never ever even attempted to censor sermons. They never ever even thought they had the authority to do so.

Nobody ever tried to censor pastor’s sermons. It never happened.

Amos Moses

“Did you read my comment? No, they never ever even attempted to censor sermons. ”

they asked for their sermons …… they had NO AUTHORITY to EVEN ASK ……. THEY ASKED ….. it is the first step …… WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE of asking for something they had NO AUTHORITY to even ask to be given ……… you are a LIAR ………..

Sharon_at_home

There was something called the Johnson Amendment that was signed in the 1950’s and was never removed that did censor Pastor’s speeches by the IRS. There is a bill that they are putting through that will remove/replace it so there is no censorship.

I googled Pastor’s sermons censored and got many hits that showed this same topic.

Maybe the one about Texas wasn’t true – I didn’t look farther for it. But sermons have been censored.

Michael C

I apologize. I thought it was clear that I was addressing the matter brought up by Musky but I understand how you may have thought I was speaking more broadly.

The Johnson Amendment does not censor speech. It regulates tax code. It prohibits tax-exempt organizations like charities, universities, and churches from engaging in political campaigning using their tax-free donations. If any of these organizations would like to engage in political campaigning, they’re free to do so. These totally-still-legal activities will probably change their tax status. From my knowledge, no church has lost their 501(c)(3) status on the basis of their pastor endorsing a political candidate from the pulpit.

I also performed the same google search that you mention above and found no instances of government censorship of sermons (within the first half-dozen or so pages).

Do you have any actual instances of censorship that you’d like to share?

Louie

Be careful what you wish for

Sisyphus

Anyone seriously interested in maintaining a pluralist democracy in France should be very concerned about the prospect of LePen as President. Fortunately, she would have little power in the French government relative to Parliament and the Prime Minister.

Amos Moses

diversity + proximity = chaos

Sisyphus

How anti-american of you. When are you emigrating back to the land of your ancestors?

Amos Moses

when are you …….. strawman argumentation again …….. and it is not anti-american ….. that is just epithet and ad hominem attack …………. it is the fact of the matter ……

Sisyphus

The real fact of the matter is your yammering with no connection whatever to logic or reality should, in no way, be taken as comprehensible discourse.

Amos Moses

again ……..epithet and ad hominem …… is all that you have ….. and where is the “logic or reality ” or “comprehensible discourse” in that ……… self contradictory garbage and nonsense ………..

Sharon_at_home

How rude!
Amos Moses is here to discuss Christian Faith with others of the same faith. You come in to disrupt our ability to discuss things Christian by taking over the comments in arguments.
This isn’t a “let’s try to prove the Christian Faith wrong” comment board, it’s a Christian board.
You don’t understand Faith so you can’t understand how Christians think.
I think we all get that.
Insulting a person is not something we really want to read about while we are on our board.

Sisyphus

Can you cite one specific instance wherein I have tried to prove faith wrong? Faith has given me the power to stop sticking needles in my veins, so I know full well the power of faith in things that cannot be objectively proven. I’m sorry if you were offended, but I do know your friend Amos is quite capable of defending himself, even if we don’t agree or I consider a comment to be unsubstantive.

Trilemma

Sounds like the Trump approach to winning an election.

Weary Warrior

Yeah, tolerance for terrorists is a great idea, Cazeneuve. smh

Robert

No just tolerance for the preaching of hateful Islam This way people can easily compare the true un muzzled Islam to Christianity.

michael louwe

When Christian-based Westerners abandon God’s Law of NI4NI for liberal political-correct vote-pandering and appeasement policies, you get more Westerners murdered by Muslim terrorists.

Chris

I know right. God’s holy law that mandates death for those who have any other religion, all wiccans, even children who speak back to their parents.

sammy13

Le Pen makes sense to me. When you allow or permit ‘citizens’ to live outside the law in the name of diversity; when you have neighborhoods that police are not welcome in or are afraid to enter; when you allow anarchy in the name of freedom; you allow trouble.

Sisyphus

Toleration of lawlessness in the name diversity has never been an argument, and her claim to the contrary is political dishonesty. Apparently she is trying to resolve her daddy issues by becoming as hateful and ethnocentric as him.

Grace Kim Kwon

The Muslims have to change their doctrines on the Non-Muslims and women and children to co-exist with others peacefully. The Westerners must stop racism and stop putting the colored people and the sexually depraved people in the same category to rant equality. Skin colors and sexual sins are two different things. People have rights to morality.

Grace Kim Kwon

Secular West is aged and not-determined for self-preservation. Kids are not one’s own and every grown-up worries about how to spend the retirement years comfortably although anyone commits suicide easily in the rich secular nations. This is what immorality really does to a society. Loss of the will for self-preservation, though stupidly greedy on money. Pagan men view women and children as a mere possession, secular men do not care about anyone’s safety, but the Christian men are too few and being ridiculed. The West needs Christian virtues for the meaning of life. Prostitution brought only depair. The Westerners, like all others, need Jesus for salvation and meaning of life.

Nidalap

You can call them “moderate” all you want.
If a mosque lists terrorists as “martyrs”, it is a terrorist recruiting mosque.
If it has a fund set up to send money to the families of the “martyrs”, it is a terror funding mosque.
100%…

Robert

What Russia did with The banning of JWs I think was good do to Jw,s Trying to appear as a Christian religion when there not. Muslims don’t do that let them preach true to their religion . In stead of making them appear christian. When its so easy to tell there not when there left alone.

Robert

A muzzled wolf that every one is taught is now friendly is way worse. Muzzle fall off instead Take the muzzle off Islam so they can preach there hatred and the world would be safer. Be cause they will know what there really like.

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