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MGTOW The ultimate thot bait.

Women in their "natural", unattented state have some hyperpgamous instincts. And attraction is based and maintained on the polarity of gender dynamics. Masculinity and femininity. Along with other things that depend on the individual.

What happens with us MGTOWs is that in your effort to find peace and quietness you also manage to achieve exactly the opposite!

PUAs, players and soybois, have been long ago exposed in the conscience of women as beta simp tryhards in disguise.

MGTOWs on the other side provide a new challenge. They provide an indomitable will, and a problem for women to solve. They are the men women missed for so long while they were being drunk with the insanity of the stream of undeserved rights and servitude that came at their feet.

The amount of female youtube channels preaching MGTOW content is a ridiculous sign of our times. True MGTOWs shouldnt even watch them as women have nothing to offer us that we cant theorise better and smarter. If they want to contribute they can simply repent and change themselves. But baiting for views and semi-simps' compliments is nowhere near a revolution.

On the other hand, we also see women swarming in chatrooms and social media to seek MGTOWs but for the most corcerning of reasons. They think they will find a sadistic dark triad daddy to kick their butt and tell them how useless they are. Be warned, only the most toxic of thots will approach MGTOW by this angle. If someone approaches you with this vibe, know that its a huge red flag and you should "run for the hills" aka ghost. The rage in them when they discover you are just another human with empathy and normal feelings is entertaining and very telling of the bullet you just dodged by avoiding her.

If women need to aid the MGTOW cause, they must not even like MGTOW for the false reasons. Or else it becomes just another means to please their ego. If they don't see they have to repent, they are not ready to go near MGTOW even with a 10 feet pole.

Re: MGTOW The ultimate thot bait.

Originally Posted by Morlock

Everyone wants to believe they can have something they can't have. It's a challenge. Women love trying to change men.

Never take something for granted. They are like this because we allowed this. And they personally allow themselves to end up like that. The repented person changes her/himself not trying to play powergames with others or play the doctor and character sculptor.

Re: MGTOW The ultimate thot bait.

Which explains why they lose interest after you've given in. Another reason not to even bother.

If women need to aid the MGTOW cause, they must not even like MGTOW for the false reasons. Or else it becomes just another means to please their ego. If they don't see they have to repent, they are not ready to go near MGTOW even with a 10 feet pole.

If women agree with the complaints MGTOW lays at the feet of the society they've helped create, then it's not us who've left the table that they need to pander to. We've said "the rulebook you wrote is not worth playing by. Goodbye." - so unless the rulebook is rewritten, there is no point to even try. You can signal being sympathetic by actually advocating for changes internally. A countervoice to toxic femininity. And above all: Action. Because words are cheap and pointless. Trust is lost, and will not be regained by "voicing sympathy".

Incidentally, I'm keeping an eye on mgtow content at youtube (searching for keyword "mgtow", timespan one day, daily sweep). I'm not seeing a significant amount of female content creators. There's a few, but aside from one selfproclaimed thot (Rose Blades) there aren't any serious content creators out there from the female side. What I do see is a sharp rise in german, spanish and eastern european (cyrillic, but I can't say which language it is exactly) language content creators, suggesting MGTOW is taking off in other parts of the world now. So far not much in the way of arab content.

Shame is a womans primary weapon. Watch for it, and call it out wherever you see it. Few women know how to handle a man immune to shame.

Re: MGTOW The ultimate thot bait.

Originally Posted by AeternusDoleo

Which explains why they lose interest after you've given in. Another reason not to even bother.

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If women agree with the complaints MGTOW lays at the feet of the society they've helped create, then it's not us who've left the table that they need to pander to. We've said "the rulebook you wrote is not worth playing by. Goodbye." - so unless the rulebook is rewritten, there is no point to even try. You can signal being sympathetic by actually advocating for changes internally. A countervoice to toxic femininity. And above all: Action. Because words are cheap and pointless. Trust is lost, and will not be regained by "voicing sympathy".

Incidentally, I'm keeping an eye on mgtow content at youtube (searching for keyword "mgtow", timespan one day, daily sweep). I'm not seeing a significant amount of female content creators. There's a few, but aside from one selfproclaimed thot (Rose Blades) there aren't any serious content creators out there from the female side. What I do see is a sharp rise in german, spanish and eastern european (cyrillic, but I can't say which language it is exactly) language content creators, suggesting MGTOW is taking off in other parts of the world now. So far not much in the way of arab content.

Exactly and since you mentioned eastern women, lets debunk this trope we see floating around, which implies they are less westernised. Feminism is global. And its to a degree innate as well. So it takes effort to rewire it.

Re: MGTOW The ultimate thot bait.

I don't think rewiring it is necessary. Hypergamy is part of the female instinct, and has been an evolutionary advantage - that's why "feminism" is global. Because what more is feminism then a bid for removing the negative consequences of hypergamy? You can't change a beastie's nature, it is what it is. What you can do is ensure there are consequences for negative (and positive) expressions of it. Right now the negative aspects of it are being reinforced and celebrated, which is why we're saying "have fun with that alone" and are just leaving the lasses behind. If women want to be able to break away from a partner, and monkeybranch up, so be it. But at that point in time severing ALL ties, including the financial ones, needs to be available. So that the risk is hers to carry.

I don't see that happening any time soon. Just as I don't see the marriage and birth rate rising again any time soon. Which means demographic and cultural shrinkage will continue at a steady pace.

[Edit] Guys, friendly request. Can we stick to attacking points rather then the person? Take it up with a mod if you got a problem with someone. Personal attacks are in my opinion a sign of weakness, and annoys the crap out of me. I don't agree with MWC's content in the past and put that content on blast for what I felt was a misrepresentation of MGTOW. But going personal is crossing a line. Knock that shit off or take it up with the mods. We're not a bunch of SJWs that can't tolerate anyone but their own, right?

Shame is a womans primary weapon. Watch for it, and call it out wherever you see it. Few women know how to handle a man immune to shame.

Re: MGTOW The ultimate thot bait.

Originally Posted by MenWithoutChains

Never take something for granted. They are like this because we allowed this. And they personally allow themselves to end up like that. The repented person changes her/himself not trying to play powergames with others or play the doctor and character sculptor.

You are very good at using lots of words and still not saying anything.

Re: MGTOW The ultimate thot bait.

There is nothing inherently attractive to women about MGTOW, and if you are ghosting properly they will never even notice you. What women are attracted to is wealth, and MGTOW tend to build a lot of wealth and accumulate it rapidly, since they do not have a woman wasting their time, energy, and money. There are a lot of incredibly successful MGTOW out there.

Make no mistake, these women do not give a shit about the man himself, in fact they don't give a shit about any man. They all want to think they have the magical golden V that will take a man who has sworn off women and render him completely under her spell. Her reward will be access to his finances, and after she has emasculated and financially gutted this man, she will discard him like used toilet paper without a care in the world.

Re: MGTOW The ultimate thot bait.

Originally Posted by Opaque

This post seem less hostile to MGTOW. Change of tunes. You play both ropes very well Mr. Chained.

Yes. Quite a change. From saving women and society from themselves to this:
"What happens with us MGTOWs is that in your effort to find peace and quietness you also manage to achieve exactly the opposite!"

But something is not right. If one achieves the exact opposite of what he seeks (peace and quiet), then he is doing it wrong.

So, I am unsure of the message. Is it a threat or wishful thinking?

The threat would be: go MGTOW and women will go after you.
The wishful thinking would be: if I go MGTOW, them women will go after me.

Either way is not very MGTOWesc.

It doesn't look like positive advertising for me, just more psyops.

Can you imagine going to a AA meeting and claim people in AA getting more free drinks instead of getting rid of booze?

Re: MGTOW The ultimate thot bait.

I'll bite MWOC.

The women you speak of.. the mainstream women who have been exposed to MGTOW and are somehow interested in engaging with them... These women are rare to three places on the wrong side of the decimal point. 99.999% of women feel entitled to men's attention, that more is better, and the bar STILL needs to be raised for us, while the bar is below grade level and falling for most women.

I'm a MGTOW ghost. I find about ZERO women per year are interested in me being MGTOW. Why?
I'm a MGTOW ghost.

Women may stop - for a second - and think "Why do NONE of my mind fuck tricks work on this guy?"
And then they IMMEDIATELY move on to a man who they think WILL be influenced by their mind-fuck tricks.

Women only engage with me if I engage with them.
Women only have power over me if I offer some of my power to them.

Sure, I have the odd quirky conversation with a woman, leaving her confused or perhaps baffled.

But that's as far as it goes.

That's where it ends.

- Feminism is Cancer.
- Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
- NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

Re: MGTOW The ultimate thot bait.

Women wanting MGTOWs and seeing us as a challenge? Sounds cool don't it, but that'll be the day. Even after being around for years, I doubt half the women have ever heard of us, and we're still cranks and basement dwelling losers to those who have. We're plenty safe.

Re: MGTOW The ultimate thot bait.

The opposition you see only exists online because simply, put, they're offended. Women are offended that a man would choose to go his own way when he could be with her. It's insulting to her. To her, only the top 5% of men exist. So, in her mind, if these guys are the ones going MGTOW, then she is offended because one of these tall, handsome, rich, smart, athletic guys should have been hers.

In reality, none of us actually belong to the 5%. We maybe do in one or two qualities but not all and that makes us average and thus invisible. So when they see us, they don't care. Your interactions with them will determine where you stand and how hard you need to ghost to get rid of them.

If you believe everything you hear is a lie, you have a 100% lie detection rate.
The opposite holds true but I would rather be surprised by the truth than a lie.

Re: MGTOW The ultimate thot bait.

Let me add to what Juggernaut's comment. If you clearly don't meet even two of the standards that these thots demand, you can ghost just fine. Since I am of only average height, all I need to do is wear old, worn clothes and drive a old truck and I am invisible. I'm probably of only average appearance so I have that going for me as well. So being sure to miss on three of the requirements makes one almost redundantly invisible. Or "Failsafe invisible" ghosting with a safety margin.