As I've said before, I have seen major problems with both games, but when someone vehemently bashes one while making the other seem godly, it just annoys me. Both games have huge downfalls in completely different departments. In WoW, I was scared of missing a raid because things moved so fast that you might miss a raid, lose DKP and be dropped from the "lotting position" of the item you wanted. When I raided, you needed TONS of pots and flasks to do it. Running around getting world buffs that were taken in to account when the bosses were designed. Original Naxx was almost impossible without at least 50-60g a night in flasks and pots, and 1 hour of running around and getting the 3 world buffs (Thrall, Nef/Ony, and ZG) and hoping that no one pissed in your cheerios by turning it in moments before you got there and also hoping you made it back before trash respawns messed up the times and your attempt at the boss... And wiping to the boss made it all that much worse with the buffs because you needed items from certain events and you only get the buff once every two hours (If someone turned in the items, they get the reward, but no buff).

Hyan

2009-02-28, 08:00

Well, she/he didn't say that SE doesn't have the same issue... from all we know she could think the same of SE, but just took Blizzard as an example.. but yeah whatever lols

altwight

2009-02-28, 08:10

Let's settle this really quick.

Best MMO customer support and dev goes to WoW

Shittiest goes to NCsoft and SE. While both seem to be making great changes to the way they do things they still fail pretty bad.

Furthermore we all hope NCsoft handles their grand MMO well as it seems they are doing so already. Let's hope it carries over to our side of the world.

Enough of this Blizzard SE NCsoft chat.

Okan

2009-02-28, 09:35

Uhh... K?

OzzofAsura

2009-02-28, 10:06

I don't think anyone was defending SE. I don't think anyone could play FFXI for anyone considerable amount of time and defend SE.

Also, I even doubt NCsoft is anywhere near as bad as SE. They have done some ridiculously stupid things, not even in the context of MMOs but also in games alone. Who wants to do the exact same shit for years with no change?

Hyan

2009-02-28, 10:27

Well, if the US version gets simultaneous updates with the korean version, and not a year later, then that statement might be true.

OzzofAsura

2009-02-28, 11:01

I'm sure it will be a staggered release schedule. Otherwise, we'd be getting an update right after release. As long as it's not a year, it's cool.

[Cookies]

2009-02-28, 18:13

Hopefully it won't be a year, looks really good from some of the videos i've seen and it'd be nice to try something new.

Eanae

2009-02-28, 22:17

The NA/EU updates will be behind Korean updates most likely due to translation of the content. NC NA and NC Korea work completely separate from one another, so NC Korea would not develop all languages into the original patch. It's up to NC NA to do that.

OzzofAsura

2009-03-04, 00:59

Korea-based NCsoft announced on March 3rd, 2009 via the official Aion website that that they permanently banned 70415 aion accounts which had been confirmed to use bots in Aion. Although in the past, NCsoft has also taken action to ban accounts confirmed to use bots in Aion, it is the first time that NCsoft banned accounts on such a large scale.

Holy shit... and we thought SE was hardcore about that stuff. Though, these were known bots.

Halion

2009-03-04, 04:36

I think the relationship between ArenaNet and NCSoft is more like what it is between FlyingLab and Sony. I don't know about NCSoft customer support but ArenaNet is great and GW2 will be the next big thing to look forward to when Aion gets boring. Maybe T.E.R.A. too.
I hope Aion support is like GW support.

OzzofAsura

2009-03-04, 12:20

I think the relationship between ArenaNet and NCSoft is more like what it is between FlyingLab and Sony. I don't know about NCSoft customer support but ArenaNet is great and GW2 will be the next big thing to look forward to when Aion gets boring. Maybe T.E.R.A. too.
I hope Aion support is like GW support.

I'm glad to hear that because I just started playing GW.

OzzofAsura

2009-04-03, 00:43

Bump!

List of words censored in Aion... funny how some of the censored words got censored, but you can use a bit of imagination... some of these are lulz and require creativity:

And, here's a video with some demonstration and explanation of the game:

Gamereactor TV (http://www.gamereactor.no/grtv/?id=4305)

Eanae

2009-04-03, 01:49

Should probably spoiler that list. >_>

Lebzile

2009-04-03, 02:40

Zyklon?

Also, Chinese OB for Aion is coming up, you can ragister and play, but if you don't upgrade to an "adult" account with a CSSN and CellPhone number, you can't pickup items or trade. In others words, you'd be stuck with Lv1 starter gear the whole length of the game if you're not chinese.

Played the open beta for a little while. Was really nice aside from it being in chinese. Graphics were off the w00t and gameplay was so smooth. Then it got really congested about 15minutes after beta started and I had to log due to all the lag.

Scroll down half way to "Guide to Chinese Open Beta" follow the instructions to download the client register your account and register it for the open beta. All information is on that link so I will not be answering any questions.

http://download517.mediafire.com/5k5mm2zvz29g/diwmvojdnmm/ENU.pak

Once you've FULLY installed the game and updated the client and you are able to log on Aion and play the game (it will be in chinese) download the link above. Once you've downloaded the ENU.pak go to your Aion/L10N directory. You'll see 2 things here. A folder titled CHS and a CHS.pak. First you will copy the CHS folder where it is and rename it ENU. Then you will put the ENU.pak inside L10N folder. After doing all this your L10N folder should contain 4 files. CHS ENU folders and CHS ENU.paks. Now you're done.

Load up Aion and enjoy it in FULL english.

Purrrfect

2009-04-08, 22:43

Been downloading this this evening after a guy I met on aionsource msn'd me about it. Protip: USE THE TORRENT. The site links on the client download are horrid. First started dling them and they were capped at 200k/sec then dwindled down to like 50, and then after a few hundred meg they all crapped out. The torrent is running good, not blazing balls fast but its consistent.

Just to reiterate as they have been saying on the aion boards, this english patch is not 100% production yet, so if something is wierd it'll probably get fixed. Just so ppl don't QQ all over it cuz they didn't like the wording in a quest's beta dialog...

And I read some know-it-all "my pc is faster than light speed" guy crying about some texture glitch saying it was the game then later saying that running in vista with dx9 rather than dx10 on his shiney toy made it better. Incase someone has issues. It was an nvidia card too... Maybe ATI should change their slogan to something like "We run MMOs better than the other guys..." lol

altwight

2009-04-08, 22:54

Anyone complaining about Aion is obviously a noob.

Lebzile

2009-04-09, 01:12

I used the DDL links Purr and had no problems, then again I started it when I knew I wouldn't be home for another 6 or 7 hours, haha.

Finished the DL and installing now then I'll do the english thing.

Also, friend of mine got into the OB and said he didn't register with a CSSN and he can pick up items, but don't know about trading.

Also, friend of mine got into the OB and said he didn't register with a CSSN and he can pick up items, but don't know about trading.

I thought it was after a certain amount of hours? 6, maybe?

Lebzile

2009-04-09, 03:46

I thought it was after a certain amount of hours? 6, maybe?
No idea, just going by what he said.

And I keep getting some freakin error when trying to install. And even though I got the language installed on the comp the chinese characters aren't showing up and are nothing but a bunch of alt code characters so I can't screenshot it and ask "what the hell does this mean?" Lol

Fayttt

2009-04-09, 06:21

Yeah, I got an error too.
It was something to do with data.zip that was missing that took forever to download and I ended up cancelling it.
Can't figure out how to register an account either.

Been sick as fuck though so I played a grand total of 5 mins yesterday. :P

Lebzile

2009-04-10, 06:40

Lol I'm going to have to start beating my sources, got 1 side saying it's p2p now and other saying it isn't.

Kitha

2009-04-10, 07:04

Lol I'm going to have to start beating my sources, got 1 side saying it's p2p now and other saying it isn't.

The payment method for retail wasn't confirmed until yesterday. Chinese Open Beta, which is obviously free, will run through until the 16th, when it will have its retail release in China. That's when it'll be p2p.

Played long enough last night/this morning to finish the Daeva quest and become a templar. It's that super sexy blend of FFXI & WoW I've been wanting for a looooooong time. Since I have the day off, I'm almost tempted to drive up to Seattle to talk with the NCwest community team since they have a booth at SakuraCon.

richardd

2009-04-10, 08:53

The payment method for retail wasn't confirmed until yesterday. Chinese Open Beta, which is obviously free, will run through until the 16th, when it will have its retail release in China. That's when it'll be p2p.

Played long enough last night/this morning to finish the Daeva quest and become a templar. It's that super sexy blend of FFXI & WoW I've been wanting for a looooooong time. Since I have the day off, I'm almost tempted to drive up to Seattle to talk with the NCwest community team since they have a booth at SakuraCon.

damn you know i gotta get this now.

LM-17s unite!

Purrrfect

2009-04-10, 10:40

The english patch works surprisingly well. There are a few things they could polish up, and unfortunately I think they might be minor enough to fly under the radar and never get fixed though... I will say I was late for werk today cuzAion. ;;

Fayttt

2009-04-10, 11:08

Shit, I didn't know there was a guide to installing it. Totally gonna get this tonight. Been needing something online to play for so long now :X

Rulke

2009-04-10, 12:31

Its nice to see people on this site getting access to OBT in china. More info has been flooding out in reguards to AION lately and its really helping wipe away some of the doubts I had about the game. I need to build a while new machine to even play it so until then Its nice to get reliable info from people who are.

Duwie

2009-04-10, 13:43

anyone have a link to the torrent site or w/e for this? >.>

Purrrfect

2009-04-10, 15:43

anyone have a link to the torrent site or w/e for this? >.>

Was posted a page or 2 ago in this thread by altwight or similar I believe.

Duwie

2009-04-10, 16:08

ahh yeah, i missed it thinking it was just an explanation and the english pack thing.. thx!

Scroll down half way to "Guide to Chinese Open Beta" follow the instructions to download the client register your account and register it for the open beta. All information is on that link so I will not be answering any questions.

http://download517.mediafire.com/5k5mm2zvz29g/diwmvojdnmm/ENU.pak

Once you've FULLY installed the game and updated the client and you are able to log on Aion and play the game (it will be in chinese) download the link above. Once you've downloaded the ENU.pak go to your Aion/L10N directory. You'll see 2 things here. A folder titled CHS and a CHS.pak. First you will copy the CHS folder where it is and rename it ENU. Then you will put the ENU.pak inside L10N folder. After doing all this your L10N folder should contain 4 files. CHS ENU folders and CHS ENU.paks. Now you're done.

Load up Aion and enjoy it in FULL english.

I'm trying to add the Adult ID thing.. but the IDs aren't working. Know how to create one or obtain another?

Edit: Nevermind. Created a new account and the ID worked. Apparently I used a minor's ID and was locked out from entering any other.

Fayttt

2009-04-10, 23:42

This is such a pain in the balls.
I installed the game, and then the shortcut on my desktop uninstalled it.
I reinstalled it, patched it, got a gameguard error.
Switched to Vista, still got some error (Was previously on 7)
Went back to 7, read online to change the chinese characters in the folders to English (really imo I don't think it should matter - I set my PC locale to Chinese before I downloaded it so I wouldnt have to worry about things like that), and still getting an error.
Reinstalling for time #3 now, sigh.
About to install XP to see if maybe that'll fix it, but I don't know.

sekaran

2009-04-11, 00:10

Got mine working.. having fun. :D

Level 4 Scout.. mohoho.

KuaiEQ

2009-04-11, 00:31

this game runs surprisingly well on my 8800GT. got to lvl 10 and into the first big cities and then a giant crab came up and one shotted me.

Siya

2009-04-11, 01:37

Is there another place to DL the english patch? for some reason the link posted earlier isn't working for me

altwight

2009-04-11, 01:43

this game runs surprisingly well on my 8800GT. got to lvl 10 and into the first big cities and then a giant crab came up and one shotted me.

rofl that fucker crab 1shot me. 750 damage some little bubble ball he shot at me after i aggro'd and ran away.

OzzofAsura

2009-04-11, 02:53

This is such a pain in the balls.
I installed the game, and then the shortcut on my desktop uninstalled it.
I reinstalled it, patched it, got a gameguard error.
Switched to Vista, still got some error (Was previously on 7)
Went back to 7, read online to change the chinese characters in the folders to English (really imo I don't think it should matter - I set my PC locale to Chinese before I downloaded it so I wouldnt have to worry about things like that), and still getting an error.
Reinstalling for time #3 now, sigh.
About to install XP to see if maybe that'll fix it, but I don't know.

Gameguard is supposedly not going to be compatible with W7 and some versions of Vista (not sure about the Vista part) until the NA/EU release.

sekaran

2009-04-11, 03:46

Gameguard working fine on Vista Ultimate 64bit.

Anyone know what mobs drop decent leather body armor?

OzzofAsura

2009-04-11, 04:50

Gameguard working fine on Vista Ultimate 64bit.

Anyone know what mobs drop decent leather body armor?

Yeah, I think it's busted on W7.

Fayttt

2009-04-11, 07:25

Okay.
I hope I have vista 64, not even sure at this point heh.
Guess I'll finish patching on 7 and then check.
Edit: Okay, vista ultimate 32 worked.
Pretty awesome game so far.

Maguspk

2009-04-11, 15:59

Need to get a running list of who's playing, I'll update this post or something, just list your name. I am assuming everyone is choosing the second server as the guide instructs.

Me either...on Justile as Reimi though. If there's a ton of people who started on the second server I'll just restart..only level 6 atm.
Edit: Was there a patch earlier? Was on around 1pm and was fine, 8pm now and its dling CHS.pak 4.zip...hope english patch still works..
Also, is anyone else playing an elysian (I think..the "good/pretty" people) Scout?
Between the lag pining to china and how shitty this class is I've started to die like every 3 minutes. Really really really pissing me off.

sekaran

2009-04-11, 21:32

I started off as an Elysian Scout.. Only died once during a quest, didn't know the clothes for a nymph were on the rock and well.. it one-shotted me. I'm always fighting mobs my level or 2 higher without much of a problem. Currently a lv13 Assassin.

I can't remember what server I'm on (I'd have to log off and fight getting back in..) but it starts with a K.

Fayttt

2009-04-11, 21:37

I'm gimped to shit. Like seriously, I barely can kill 1 mob.
Are you using swords or daggers?
Idk, I can't think of anything I'm doing wrong..my damage is fine really, I just get the everloving shit kicked out of me really really fast. Not to mention how tough it is to make money, and all these deaths seriously arent helping.

Marcin

2009-04-11, 22:06

I'm playing it, pretty fun so far and the graphics are amazing. I can definitely see myself playing this for a very long time, but i'll wait til the retail version is out before I actually make any real judgments and decide.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn168/Marcin_turbo08/Aion0000.jpg

Spliffy

2009-04-11, 22:35

I can't wait for this game to come out!... anyone know how much the monthly fee is?

Maguspk

2009-04-11, 22:38

level 10 Sorceror currently on the second server in "Tiamat"

Character: maguspk
Server: second on list then 'Tiamat' (the only busy one)

It's pretty fun, the combat system is pretty bland though at least to start I guess. My thoughts so far:

Can't zoom out far enough, very annoying I like being able to see around myself not like 5 feet around my body.

WTF are the power shards for? I've got like 25 of them and I can activate/deactive the 'golem' whatever the fuck that means, but it does nothing.

Why can I only fly on a downward slant and only after jumping off a ledge? Where can you fly if not in the main city or in the outlying areas? Always says "Can't fly here, lolz" when I try to fly anywhere.

I'll add more if/when I think of them. Probably not going to get back on unless other people are on Tiamat too, just going to wait for US release. Overall, more dissapointing than anything. It didn't feel great, it felt average.

Marcin

2009-04-11, 22:43

People who play WoW or Warhammer orwhatever other mmo's used the same/similar combat system will feel right at home with Aions.

altwight

2009-04-11, 22:51

Yea my bro installed and said "wow I move exactly the same as in WoW."

richardd

2009-04-11, 23:07

what similarities does it have with FFXI as far as controls go? if anyone knows

sekaran

2009-04-11, 23:12

I use dual daggers. Use Swift Edge > Soul Slash, Evasion > Counterslash, and I typically started off fights with Surprise Attack. I agree money is hard to come by :/ Gets a bit easier once you can use the AH.

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/968/aion0002p.jpg
Graphics are great too! And runs fullscreen pretty well (1920xwhatever) with a 8800GT.

Omnipotent

2009-04-11, 23:12

what similarities does it have with FFXI as far as controls go? if anyone knows

Not just controls but just general FFXI? I'm interested in this too.

richardd

2009-04-11, 23:14

good god, look how gorgeous that SS is... i need a quad core cpu with a 512 videocard nao. my old ass flinstones PC aint gonna run this in full :(

Maguspk

2009-04-11, 23:25

Nothing about this game is similar to FFXI, it's just like WoW if you've played it...with gliding wooo?

Marcin

2009-04-11, 23:27

There really are no similarities to FFXI controls. Pretty much like I said, WoW style. You'll wanna learn to move with the mouse because i'm assuming it'll be just as important as it is in WoW pvp. Throw abilities in your quickbar and keybind them, move with the mouse and use whatever keys are to set to whatever abilities. Or you can move with the keyboard but you'll be slow in pvp.

richardd

2009-04-11, 23:30

gotcha, thanks for the input. looks like i got some practicing to do.

im still going to have my little habits, like CTRL R for reply or /sea all "etc"

i gotta get passed that D;<

Marcin

2009-04-11, 23:31

Well the small things like CTRL+R for replys is pretty much a standard in any mmo that i've played>_>

richardd

2009-04-11, 23:35

Well the small things like CTRL+R for replys is pretty much a standard in any mmo that i've played>_>

really? <_> not in the one im playing now lol.

i cant decide if i want to tank or be a DD :(

altwight

2009-04-11, 23:47

Yea the game has no similarities with FFXI. However if anyone wants to argue that this game is basically the same as wow they can go ahead and fuck off.

This game isn't "basically" WoW but the similarities are there. You can't deny that if you wanted to. However, it isn't just WoW like your wow nabs would claim, alot of mmo's use this style of controls, because it's convenient and easy unlike FFXI's retard bullshit where you have to open 14,000 menus to get to where you want to be. And yes I agree, not having Nickelodeon graphics for a change is nice.

Fayttt

2009-04-12, 00:22

I use dual daggers. Use Swift Edge > Soul Slash, Evasion > Counterslash, and I typically started off fights with Surprise Attack. I agree money is hard to come by :/ Gets a bit easier once you can use the AH.

Graphics are great too! And runs fullscreen pretty well (1920xwhatever) with a 8800GT.

Hmm, thats the same thing I do/use =\
Maybe it's just the lag kicking my ass..I dunno. Hopefully it'll get better tomorrow...just need to do the last mission and I can get to the Sanctum (I'm assuming) and hopefully will get better or something.

Wow the character models in this game are amazing... is the Beta worth starting now since it ends in a few days, and I wouldn't even be able to start DLing until monday? I've been semi-following this for a while but didn't know the Beta was so soon :(

Also, do the male characters look as cool? Because the female's look downright sexy lol.

KuaiEQ

2009-04-12, 02:28

Only thing so far I dislike is the fact that I can't swivel my camera around midfight since left click moves you and even if its disabled you still can't do it. Also 2k people Qs but lol china.

If you're European, you need to change the windows regional settings to American, or the english patch won't work :p

Its a very nice game so far, the lag from china is killer though. It will be nicer when its on dedicated NA or EU servers.

Fayttt

2009-04-12, 10:22

Finally got to be a ranger and got to Sanctum. Having no problems killing anything anymore, lol.

Aro

2009-04-12, 10:47

Just played the game after the Torrent download took like 50hours ;-;.

I have to say it does have a WoW/War ish feel, but I hope it's extremely different in terms of actual content and difficulty since both of those games only lasted me about 1~2months before they got boring. Good news is I get very little lag so far and the game runs smoothly for me, unlike WAR.

Cat

2009-04-12, 11:26

Are you not getting any ability lag at all?

My abilities all take 1-2s to fire off after pressing them, and randomly get 5s DC spikes :<

Eanae

2009-04-12, 11:30

Wish my college connection had the power to download this. :(

Really can't wait to try it.

Aro

2009-04-12, 12:21

Are you not getting any ability lag at all?

My abilities all take 1-2s to fire off after pressing them, and randomly get 5s DC spikes :<

Yeah it surprised me as well, my Laptop is about 1yr old and I was playing just fine. I mean I only played like 40ish min and was exploring/fighting/looking through menus. I'll play some more today if I can figure out why the English patch is not working.

Kitha

2009-04-12, 14:00

After playing the Chinese OBT until the wee hours of Friday morning and finishing the Daeva quest and checking out Sanctum (capitol city of the Elyos), I said "ah hell, why not" and decided I was going to go to SakuraCon. Two days, 400 miles, a lost drivers license, and a few other ordeals later, here I am. I'll probably make a new thread here as I don't have the time right now to go into all the details. I also got to start an epic Broken Picture Telephone w/ a few random people, Gabe & Tycho (http://www.penny-arcade.com), Greg Dean (of Real Life comics (http://www.reallifecomics.com/)), and Liv (http://www.aiononline.com/us/community/development_team/meet_liv.html) (Aion's community manager).

I got to speak with Liv and Stefan (QA Lead @ NCwest) and ask a bunch of questions that they actually answered as best they could without breaking any NDAs. It was so refreshing to actually have this sort of interaction and discussion unlike the robotic non-information that SquareEnix consistently vomits up for us. Here's a short and sweet recap of the Aion info!

Things are moving along smoothly, they recently started the Friends & Family alpha.

Originally NCwest was saying there would be "Preview Events" but no closed/open beta. I'm going to email Liv later to double check if I can spill the beans, because both she and Stefan said that starting this summer there would be a series of closed betas with an open beta nearing release.

NCwest, the folks producing the game for NA/EU, have a LOT of control over various aspects of the game. They're making sure everything is well-balanced for NA/EU players.

NCsoft is excited and committed to making the game experience the best for everyone who plays. Liv was saying that NCsoft said they were going to be introducing a minor patch soon. Liv and everyone at NCwest was expecting the typical 'minor' changes; some bug fixes, class tweaks, etc. What they got was a completely brand new zone!

Regarding endgame, yes there are some world spawns. No, they won't be the only way to get good gear. Itemization is such that things are going to be spread out amongst the PvPvE abyss dungeon raids, crafting, world spawns, and abyss control NPC merchants (kinda like faction quartermasters in WoW).

I'm probably forgetting a few things as I didn't grab my notes out of my bag since I'm in a bit of a hurry getting ready to go out soon.

Cheers!

Kellen

2009-04-12, 15:03

Are there any good guides on how to setup an account to play this? I tried the one on page 11 (I think) but it didn't seem to work.

吴春雨 210303198508131214 broke my entering of an adult ID (so I had to recreate), so do not use that one. I believe it is a child's ID.

Edit: Hit lv17.. I broke the lv17 mission cause I died.. leaving me without the quest items since I used them.. and the NPC breaks on me. Blaah!

Was it the Slacy slime or whatever? I ended up having to kite the fucking thing for 10 minutes since I couldn't get rid of its coating thing anymore.

sekaran

2009-04-12, 15:55

Was it the Slacy slime or whatever? I ended up having to kite the fucking thing for 10 minutes since I couldn't get rid of its coating thing anymore.

Yea, it was Slacy slime. So you just used arrows and what not for 10 minutes while kiting? Maybe I'll try that then.

Foras

2009-04-12, 16:41

Once you installed the game, how long did it take for patching? I've been patching for about 2 hrs now...

KuaiEQ

2009-04-12, 16:56

Yea, it was Slacy slime. So you just used arrows and what not for 10 minutes while kiting? Maybe I'll try that then.

no im a sorcerer so i just kept up my 2 dots and ran back and forth on the road.

Aro

2009-04-12, 17:27

Once you installed the game, how long did it take for patching? I've been patching for about 2 hrs now...

It took about 20minutes for me. Also, so far playing this game has impressed me, I eagerly await the release! Although so far it seems almost identical to WoW it is really blowing me away how beautiful the game is and how smoothly it runs on my pc.

sekaran

2009-04-12, 17:32

no im a sorcerer so i just kept up my 2 dots and ran back and forth on the road.

Ah, okay. Impossible to do via arrows. lol. :(

Foras

2009-04-12, 17:37

It took about 20minutes for me. Also, so far playing this game has impressed me, I eagerly await the release! Although so far it seems almost identical to WoW it is really blowing me away how beautiful the game is and how smoothly it runs on my pc.

I have no idea why its taking so long. Did you do any port forwarding or disable your firewall(s)? Did you torrent the installer files or get them off the official site?

Fayttt

2009-04-12, 20:17

Lol, for some odd reason I took really good screenshots of this game so I made a sig.
How terrible does it look?
(haven't made a sig in a couple years, heh also yay 10 minute paint.NET jobs)

Vandole

2009-04-12, 20:26

downloading it now

OzzofAsura

2009-04-12, 22:49

Lol, for some odd reason I took really good screenshots of this game so I made a sig.
How terrible does it look?
(haven't made a sig in a couple years, heh also yay 10 minute paint.NET jobs)

It could use some more text and such, but the motion blur and picture are awesome. Can't wait for this game.

Maguspk

2009-04-12, 23:17

Does Sorcerer get more fun? It felt like everybody went Spiritmaster on my server but I went the Sorcerer route because I don't care about having something to take aggro, I am precise enough to solo shit on my own with the Restrain/Ice Chains.

sekaran

2009-04-13, 00:56

I'll probably go Sorcerer once it hits retail I think. I just created a Mage and am having a ton more fun with it, and plan to go the Sorcerer route for the same reasons you pointed out above. Hopefully I can try it out a little before the beta ends.

KuaiEQ

2009-04-13, 01:14

I like sorcerer cause I dont wanna micro-manage shit. getting 2 mobs on you at once sucks though if stoneskin isnt up.

Maguspk

2009-04-13, 01:25

Yeah, I think it'd also be nice if we could control whether or not we wanted to chain skills. I hate the fact that I can't keep casting Flame Arrow/Burst without activating the chain and doing the insta cast. It's not so bad with Ice Chains since I only cast that once, but sometimes I just want to save the chain skill for later like on my second mob and not use it on the first and have to wait on a freaking cooldown.

Siya

2009-04-13, 02:21

Does templar get any better at higher levels? >.> At 14 now and rather disappointed, figured I'de get cures n such but only got bandages and herbs (which share the same timer ; ; ) so far I'm kinda regretting picking templar over gladiator

Fayttt

2009-04-13, 08:05

There, I shopped the text a little bit at work today, lol.
Edit: I just realized I'm rather obsessed with this game seeing as how I made an avatar too, roooofl.

Aro

2009-04-13, 08:20

Look good, I think I'm going to make one as well ;3

Also Foras, I did not do anything special and I do not have my ports forwarded. The torrent took me about 48hrs to download... so I don't know what your problem could be :(

Purrrfect

2009-04-13, 09:43

gotcha, thanks for the input. looks like i got some practicing to do.

im still going to have my little habits, like CTRL R for reply or /sea all "etc"

i gotta get passed that D;<

They do let you bind most everything. I set reply to ctrl-r on mine. ;) And I'm pretty sure a quad core isn't gonna help, I can't recall for sure but I'm fairly certain it was only using 1 on my duo core. Game runs pretty good a hair down from maxed on my older 1.86ghz core2duo, 8800GT.

The couple people I've told about the game all say it looks like wow too... I don't see how people can say it looks like wow. The game play is quite similar, a bit slower combat than warhammer, not as slow as ffxi. Controls are very similar to non-SE mmo games.

On the flying thing, you can only fly in a select few zones (namely the Abyss), in the others all you can do is glide.

Marcin

2009-04-13, 09:47

Remade my character, loving Assassin. As long as the higher levels keep me interested as much as the lowbie levels this'll definitely be my mmo of choice. I really hope it has PVE raids because I read it has world spawns-_-

Got my wings too, hell ya.

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn168/Marcin_turbo08/pen.png

Finally decided on a character model I liked, too.

Purrrfect

2009-04-13, 09:58

Oh and if you're having money troubles, bazaar stuff over night in your private shop. I made like 14k in just one night selling a couple drops I couldn't use in the starting town.

Fayttt

2009-04-13, 11:08

How long does it take in-game for the auto-kick out to take effect?
I know there is one because I got kicked when I went to sleep at the character selection, but never got one when I was just sitting in town in-game, lol. Wonder if there even is one if your actually in-game.

Katlan

2009-04-13, 12:36

Anybody know of a store that allows pre-ordering or going to sell the China retail version? I've looked around online but haven't been able to find anything yet. Figured there will be an NA community for the Chinese retail, similar to how FFXI had a NA community in the JP release (since NA won't have exclusive servers)

Eanae

2009-04-13, 12:44

Chinese retail will most likely require a CSSN so it'd be identity theft to play it.

Ksandra

2009-04-13, 12:45

Honest question. Could someone explain the differences between this game and Lineage II (from people who played LII extensively)?

Game looks pretty but Lineage II was pretty for it's time (made by same company), but was just an overall grindfest, with little else to do. Just curious if the looks are just another illusion or not.

Eanae

2009-04-13, 12:46

Honest question. Could someone explain the differences between this game and Lineage II (from people who played LII extensively)?

Game looks pretty but Lineage II was pretty for it's time (made by same company), but was just an overall grindfest, with little else to do. Just curious if the looks are just another illusion or not.

Less Grind.
No free-for-all (WoW like factions)
Flying
No castle sieges that I know of

Ksandra

2009-04-13, 12:53

Less Grind.
No free-for-all (WoW like factions)
Flying
No castle sieges that I know of

hmm looked up more, turns out they made guild wars, city of heroes, and Tabula Rasa...maybe I'll wait till after it's been out 6 months to see what people's reactions are. XD (never liked any of those games. :/)

Eanae

2009-04-13, 13:03

hmm looked up more, turns out they made guild wars, city of heroes, and Tabula Rasa...maybe I'll wait till after it's been out 6 months to see what people's reactions are. XD (never liked any of those games. :/)

Seems like a good idea. Warhammer disappointment syndrome etc. :(

Edit: It's been released in Korea since November.

Ksandra

2009-04-13, 13:16

Seems like a good idea. Warhammer disappointment syndrome etc. :(

Edit: It's been released in Korea since November.

ya the guild I joined we got to the point we were rading IC on a daily basis. :/ so basically did everything there was to do in the game. ><; still waiting for them to release more.

Purrrfect

2009-04-13, 13:20

Seems like a good idea. Warhammer disappointment syndrome etc. :(

Oh SE, when will your next MMO come out? I think Aion will have more stuff than Warhammer, but it will be quite some time before it can rival FFXI or WoW in variety. Hopefully they get the pvp abyss stuff done and implement some pve type things like ToAU or something.

Aro

2009-04-13, 14:13

Seems like a good idea. Warhammer disappointment syndrome etc. :(

Oh yes, what a disappointment that was.

After playing this game for a while (like all of today, and yesterday evening) I can say that it is pretty much a WoW copy, with it's own little twists. I definitely hope it gets more in depth that simply quests and grinds (which I don't mind all that much, but there is a limit).

However, like I've said before (I think in this thread) the game is very beautiful, the way the world interacts with your character is amazing. I was standing in a river idling a bit while I went to get a drink and when I came back my character was on his knees in the river trying to catch some fish with his bare hands (and he did whoo!).

The flying is a nice touch, and I think everyone wants their character to look "Cool" or "Cute" and the character creation allows for that.

I will probably pick it up when it's released. I did enjoy the beta and I had like a little "Mini-Raid" with a few Chinese players. We got to what looked like an instanced portal, but it wouldn't let us in. I was thinking it would open if the energy thingamabobers activated in the room (kinda like lamps in Nyzul) but the language barrier was there so I couldn't voice my idea :(.

All in all, I think the game is beautiful, but the comparison to WoW cannot be denied.

Can't wait for release, but at least I'll have my screenshots from BETA to keep me company :princess:

http://i44.tinypic.com/242vivs.jpg

Fayttt

2009-04-13, 14:27

The beta ends on the 16th, right?
It won't let me log in..keeps saying cannot connect to the authorization server - Servers down or something?

Maguspk

2009-04-13, 14:27

So does anyone...

Know what the power shards do?
Know how to not continue a chain to level two and instead cast the level one again?
How to collect after becoming a Daeva (are the materials seriously only collectable by <10 characters?)

Katlan

2009-04-13, 14:33

The beta ends on the 16th, right?
It won't let me log in..keeps saying cannot connect to the authorization server - Servers down or something?

happened a few times to me yesterday, just try again and u will get in. And yes, Aion become P2P on the 16th for China (somebody did the calculations and it turns out to be like .7 cents a min at roughly 50$ per month if u never logged out. But dunno if ur charged while bazaaring since that kinda defeats the purpose of afk-store)

Aro

2009-04-13, 14:34

Know what the power shards do?

you equip with your weapon and activate them using a bound key that activates "Golem" when you activate it it does the added affect described. The only ones I've used are +10 dmg ones, and I'm assuming they mean +10 dmg/hit for 1shard/hit.

Maguspk

2009-04-13, 14:58

happened a few times to me yesterday, just try again and u will get in. And yes, Aion become P2P on the 16th for China (somebody did the calculations and it turns out to be like .7 cents a min at roughly 50$ per month if u never logged out. But dunno if ur charged while bazaaring since that kinda defeats the purpose of afk-store)

you equip with your weapon and activate them using a bound key that activates "Golem" when you activate it it does the added affect described. The only ones I've used are +10 dmg ones, and I'm assuming they mean +10 dmg/hit for 1shard/hit.
I am pretty sure I activated the golem and didn't see my power go up at all, nor did I lose any on an attack. Maybe they only work for physical attacks? Can anyone report them actually doing anything that isn't just conjecture?

Katlan

2009-04-13, 15:07

Uh...

I didn't do the math myself, was just something i found out as i considered purchasing the China retail version... but hell no at those rates. will just wait for NA release where we get our monthly option.

and if anybody has tried a Chanter, do you know where you get those shards (called Margalor stone or something) to use your non-mp based cures and stuff?

Akanei

2009-04-13, 15:15

It's cost you 54 bucks, roughly, to be logged in all day everyday, a month.

.15 cents (1 yuan) for 2 hours * 12 = 1.80 a day

1.8 * 30 = 54
-----------------

Anyway, shards don't work on spells, afaik. Only melee and ranged attacks. You can't repeat a level 1 in a chain; you have to wait on the cooldown.

Lastly, servers are under maintenance from 2-8AM CST. Still have another 4 hours.

Fayttt

2009-04-13, 15:34

Wait a sec..payment will be based on how often your logged in and not a solid monthly fee? o_O

Akanei

2009-04-13, 15:40

For the Chinese retail, yes.

It's not like it's anything new for them, or Korea.

Fayttt

2009-04-13, 15:41

Hmm...
Also, is anyone else on server 2 like not able to get on? Seriously, I keep getting a red error message and I was able to log on just fine on another server.

Akanei

2009-04-13, 15:58

Again, all of the servers on the north region and the following servers in the east region are under maintenance until 8AM CST (5PM PST 8PM EST):

内尔图斯, 沙克密斯, 帕西美达斯, 埃乌梅洛斯, 奥尔达易斯, 布尔卡奴斯, 德莫托克斯, 爱普罗西尼

Fayttt

2009-04-13, 16:09

Oh, that explains it then. Didn't see it, sorry.

Lebzile

2009-04-13, 16:12

Haven't they been doing subscriptions like that to cut down the play time anyways? Least that's what I heard because Koreans/Chinese don't have self-control and play non-stop and been so many deaths related to the grindage. Lol

Akanei

2009-04-13, 16:21

That's part of it.

Also, most of the people who play MMOs over there do so from LAN centers, so I think plans like that support that sort of time commitment.

Aro

2009-04-13, 16:22

Haven't they been doing subscriptions like that to cut down the play time anyways? Least that's what I heard because Koreans/Chinese don't have self-control and play non-stop and been so many deaths related to the grindage. Lol

I heard that as well, but the same is true for some NA players. I think it's just a dumb solution to a even dumber problem. goo communism :justasplanned:

Marcin

2009-04-13, 16:54

Oh yes, what a disappointment that was.

After playing this game for a while (like all of today, and yesterday evening) I can say that it is pretty much a WoW copy, with it's own little twists. I definitely hope it gets more in depth that simply quests and grinds (which I don't mind all that much, but there is a limit).

This isn't ment to call you out or question how you feel so don't take a defense stance, but, elaborate on how this is pretty much a WoW copy, please. Because of questing? UI? Movement? The system WoW uses (and I guess you'd be surprised other mmo's before WoW used a similar system!) is convenient like I stated previously. Sure there are similarities but that's hardly a copy. Questing, i'll give you that. But questing works. I much rather quest than form a 6 person party with unbearable retards and kill the same fucking crab for 3 levels before being able to move onto rabbits for 3 levels.

As far as Ksandra's question goes. I played Lineage2 and wanted to gouge my eyes out at the grinding. Gaining levels in Aion is done through quests and missions(actual storyline missions which are pretty awesome and the cutscenes are nice.) and the time flew by. I didn't feel a grind at all, it was just one awesome enjoyment that I couldn't put down, and that's saying a lot because newb levels are usually something you want to move out of asap. Can't really discuss what the game eventually develops into but as of right now it looks promising (but hey so did Warhammer.) since they seem to be taking the best of every mmo and sticking it into one.

As of right now i've had more fun with Aion than I did any MMO I played previously. (L2, FFXI, WoW, Warhammer etc) but I guess we'll just have to see how the actual endgame is. Alsooooo, the ability chaining system in Aion is something I like and ends up making combat feel faster.

Akanei

2009-04-13, 17:19

There isn't really much of an endgame content, right now, what with the level cap being 50 and all...

Most of it's pvp.

Eanae

2009-04-13, 17:23

Everything is a WoW copy even though you know, Lineage 2 came out before WoW and this made by the same people. Yep.

Akanei

2009-04-13, 17:30

Since when did people ever make any goddamn sense?

Marcin

2009-04-13, 17:41

Everytime someone says an mmo is a wow copy I get furious. :(

Fayttt

2009-04-13, 17:51

Seriously, if everything is a WoW copy, then everything including WoW is an EQ/EQ2 copy!

OzzofAsura

2009-04-13, 18:27

Your sig and avatar look awesome now.

Purrrfect

2009-04-13, 18:33

Everything is a checkers copy. You heard it here first.

Fayttt

2009-04-13, 18:47

Your sig and avatar look awesome now.
Thanks, worked on it a bit in work and class today =D
Photoshopped the text and luckily had a zoomed out version of the same pic as my sig, lol.

Vandole

2009-04-13, 19:24

i'm trying to register.. but i can't get a name to register working :[

Aro

2009-04-13, 19:36

Everytime someone says an mmo is a wow copy I get furious. :(

Honestly I'm just talking about MMOs I've played, I thought WoW started it off but I guess I was mistaken.

I never really played MMOs before FFXI, and I never played any Lineage or looked into it at all.

I guess we need a politically correct term for games in WoW/WAR/L2's style.

Also the "Does not feel like a grind" thing is something I always get when I start an MMO. I got that feeling the most when I played WAR. I LOVE PvP. It's my favorite part of any MMO. But I'm sure anyone who played WAR can agree, the PvP... was just too much. A game focused on PvP was a great idea, but ultimately I got bored. I played during release and about 2 months after and then quit, don't know how much better it has become.

The connection I was really making was that, games in that style lose my attention after the first few weeks. I quit WoW in about 1 month, and WAR in about 2. I just hope Aion is not the same. A Pretty game is nice. But an amazing pretty game is better.

Maybe I'm just strange :( I've been playing FFXI for 5 years and the leveling style never really bothered me. It has become even better with level sync. Where you can skip all the crap camps and just SMN burn/dunes burn/Ronfaure Burn and get to ToAU nicely.

Fayttt

2009-04-13, 20:14

Is there a OST out for this game yet? The music is really really stunning and some of it reminds me of FF4 (The Exalted Path in the Sanctum is one of those areas)

Kitha

2009-04-13, 20:14

happened a few times to me yesterday, just try again and u will get in. And yes, Aion become P2P on the 16th for China (somebody did the calculations and it turns out to be like .7 cents a min at roughly 50$ per month if u never logged out. But dunno if ur charged while bazaaring since that kinda defeats the purpose of afk-store)

That was me on Aion source, and it's not .7 cents, it's 7 cents... slight difference. This really doesn't mean anything since NCwest is more likely than not going to follow with the standard monthly fee common in most (if not all?) western MMOs. Here's a copy of the original post.

For simplicity, ~50 USD for a full months (720 hours) worth of playtime.

50 / 720 = ~7 cents an hour.

Lordwafik

2009-04-13, 21:57

Is there a OST out for this game yet? The music is really really stunning and some of it reminds me of FF4 (The Exalted Path in the Sanctum is one of those areas)

Yes I got the OST ages ago, too bad I completely lost interest in the game though, music is stunning.

Fayttt

2009-04-13, 22:11

Awesome, looking for a torrent now then.

Marcin

2009-04-13, 23:18

I have the OST but the one I have is only 22 tracks, i'm pretty sure a lot of the music in the asmodian areas isn't on it. If you find a download that has all the tracks in the game, PM me!

Fayttt

2009-04-14, 05:03

Yeah, I ended up getting the one with 22 tracks....has all the songs I wanted though. I'll keep an eye out for a bigger one.

Katlan

2009-04-14, 10:52

That was me on Aion source, and it's not .7 cents, it's 7 cents... slight difference. This really doesn't mean anything since NCwest is more likely than not going to follow with the standard monthly fee common in most (if not all?) western MMOs. Here's a copy of the original post.

Ahh yes, my skill in reading comprehension goes way down when I only get 3 hrs of sleep lol.

killerc4

2009-04-14, 11:54

you guys can come play on the korean servers with me for 25$ a month (300hrs) =)

Purrrfect

2009-04-14, 12:19

I'll be waiting for us retail unfortunately. The english patch on the chinese client works well enough to play, but I felt bad having to keep declining party invites cuz I couldn't talk to peeps. cue cue

Fayttt

2009-04-14, 13:00

I actually accepted invites anyway. I would assume they know you wouldnt be able to speak chinese if you have a name in English. When I was in a few parties (A mini-raid too) nobody even really said anything, lol.
But I did get a couple friend requests, i accepted those too though I personally don't see the point of them if the person you put on your friends list doesnt speak your language.

Kellen

2009-04-14, 14:27

I was finally able to get it working, turns out I had originally installed the English client from Aiononline.com when I needed the Chinese client. Once I did that, I followed those instructions and got it working fine.

I'm really liking this game so far. Graphics are very soothing, good game play, great music, and nice looking game interface. Can't wait for the US retail.

Fallyn

2009-04-14, 15:03

I actually was fairly disappointed with the game; got to lv7 and was just bored. In my opinion even WAR had a better start and curve than this does, which is a shame because I was really looking forward to this game. :(

Aro

2009-04-14, 16:11

WAR had a better start and curve than this does

That's a scary thing to say

Marcin

2009-04-14, 16:27

I actually was fairly disappointed with the game; got to lv7 and was just bored. In my opinion even WAR had a better start and curve than this does, which is a shame because I was really looking forward to this game. :(

I don't agree but you're entitled to your opinion. Lv7?! Bleeblah. Get 2 more levels and ascend!

Fayttt

2009-04-14, 16:31

I don't agree but you're entitled to your opinion. Lv7?! Bleeblah. Get 2 more levels and ascend!
^
It gets a hell of a lot better when you get to pick your "real" class and see the Abyss and such.

Edit: Oh god, 666 posts.

OzzofAsura

2009-04-14, 16:45

I actually was fairly disappointed with the game; got to lv7 and was just bored. In my opinion even WAR had a better start and curve than this does, which is a shame because I was really looking forward to this game. :(

You're the only person on 3 forums I've heard say that, and I wouldn't judge any professional MMO at level 7, but to each their own.

/ma "Barsatan" <me> ^

Now your 666 posts has no effect on me. Go ahead and respond, and lose all your evil.

Fayttt

2009-04-14, 17:12

Hurray~
It wore off =P

altwight

2009-04-15, 02:00

Fuck that to each his or her own opinion. Saying a game sucks with only a level 7 is just a dumbass thing to say. Instead correct yourself and say "I wasn't smart enough to experience the game play cause I noob'd out at level 7"

Switching subjects.

I noticed the game gets a bit harder after level 12 or 13ish. The amount of quests available kinda dwindles down. I believe that was the first time I actually had to go searching for quests. Unfortunately the beta ends later tonight and I was only able to reach level 15.

Really wanted to see what the Abyss was like. Only one person out of 20 or so in my english legion made it to 25. Never really talked to him about how it was.

After playing assassin to 15 and then making use of my bow I picked up from a quest I found out that you can shoot while running. That kinda makes me want to level a ranger when NA version comes out.

Fayttt

2009-04-15, 05:07

What the hell, I was never able to shoot while running, I always had to use snare shot / sniping, keep my distance, and when it got close just didn't move because it would always interrupt my bow lol.

Fallyn

2009-04-15, 08:57

Fuck that to each his or her own opinion. Saying a game sucks with only a level 7 is just a dumbass thing to say. Instead correct yourself and say "I wasn't smart enough to experience the game play cause I noob'd out at level 7"

About a dumbass thing to say as anything you have spouted in this post. I may have "noobed it out", but the fact is that I found it a rather boring to start to a game.

That being said, it might have been because the game wasn't truly in english; I'd probably appreciate it more if it we're, in the fact that I might take the time to read all of the text instead of just text or whatever.

You're the only person on 3 forums I've heard say that, and I wouldn't judge any professional MMO at level 7, but to each their own.

Hmm, I just noticed that I put "with the game", maybe I should've edited it to say "start of the game". I'm in no way judging the whole game as being the same as the first 7 levels (obviously that would be a retarded statement by any means, on any game) I guess I was just hoping to be more enthralled by it than I was.

Anyway, dumbass post, etc.

Akanei

2009-04-15, 09:01

I noticed the game gets a bit harder after level 12 or 13ish. The amount of quests available kinda dwindles down. I believe that was the first time I actually had to go searching for quests. Unfortunately the beta ends later tonight and I was only able to reach level 15.

Wait until you get into your late teens.

Almost ALL of your quests and missions from 17-20 that give the most exp/reward are group required. You have to face off against (for lack of a better term) elites for the requirements. Healer necessary, tank necessary.

sekaran

2009-04-15, 09:22

Noticed the group requirement when I got eaten by Turrins over and over.. haha. :[

Rulke

2009-04-15, 11:11

So four of my freinds and I will probably play this game, giving us a static group of 5 people. Would 1 tank, 1 healer, 3 DDs sound like a fair (if challenging) shot at the game for overall content?

Purrrfect

2009-04-15, 11:50

New update went live today on the korean servers. At least one new instanced zone was added (2 I think) and they reduced the time to wait between instances. Some beautiful screenshots were had. 1.2 LIVE + Spectacular screenshots! - AionSource.com (http://www.aionsource.com/forum/general-discussion/12983-1-2-live-spectacular-screenshots.html)
looks hawt, hope it is ready for the us version when it comes.

killerc4

2009-04-15, 12:43

Fuck that to each his or her own opinion. Saying a game sucks with only a level 7 is just a dumbass thing to say. Instead correct yourself and say "I wasn't smart enough to experience the game play cause I noob'd out at level 7"

Switching subjects.

I noticed the game gets a bit harder after level 12 or 13ish. The amount of quests available kinda dwindles down. I believe that was the first time I actually had to go searching for quests. Unfortunately the beta ends later tonight and I was only able to reach level 15.

Really wanted to see what the Abyss was like. Only one person out of 20 or so in my english legion made it to 25. Never really talked to him about how it was.

After playing assassin to 15 and then making use of my bow I picked up from a quest I found out that you can shoot while running. That kinda makes me want to level a ranger when NA version comes out.

It's basically tiered zone with fortresses you can take control of (legions). I actually spent quite a bit of time leveling here, as you got abyss points for killing the mobs as well as exp. You can trade in points for pvp gear.

the bottom zone has the asmodian and elyos bases on opposite ends and its basically free for all pvp (other than bases)

altwight

2009-04-15, 13:01

So four of my freinds and I will probably play this game, giving us a static group of 5 people. Would 1 tank, 1 healer, 3 DDs sound like a fair (if challenging) shot at the game for overall content?

You will destroy everything until later teens apparently. Two people partying is enough to own every quest up to 15 easily. As someone said quests and missions become group required in the late teens.

That being said, it might have been because the game wasn't truly in english; I'd probably appreciate it more if it we're, in the fact that I might take the time to read all of the text instead of just text or whatever.

You've me confused with this part. Not truly in english? I'm assuming you're referring to the english patch being a translation? Or did you use the english patch at all? The game became really 'boring' for me at first because it was in chinese and I didn't know wut I was doing basically.

Vandole

2009-04-15, 17:00

ugh. my school has the ports blocked and i can't connect to the servers.

Fallyn

2009-04-15, 17:37

You've me confused with this part. Not truly in english? I'm assuming you're referring to the english patch being a translation? Or did you use the english patch at all? The game became really 'boring' for me at first because it was in chinese and I didn't know wut I was doing basically.

Yeah I used the patch, but I didn't take the time with it like I would if i bought it off the shelf. (Although the english patch was fairly awesome, im not knocking that) I jsut wasnt as excited about playing the game as I was wanting to play the game.

Katlan

2009-04-16, 12:04

Yeah I used the patch, but I didn't take the time with it like I would if i bought it off the shelf. (Although the english patch was fairly awesome, im not knocking that) I jsut wasnt as excited about playing the game as I was wanting to play the game.

English patch was near perfect until lv about lv 25, since that's about as far as they currently are w/ the last release. Yeah a few minor details here and there, but quest/mission stories were translated near flawlessly and didn't detract from the game feel at all imo

Fallyn

2009-04-16, 18:22

Like I said; the patch was great, I guess it's just personal preference and maybe I was wrong with what I said, but personally I don't think I'm gunna pick it up.

Ohaigaiz

2009-04-16, 19:12

Anyone have an alternate download link with all the files in one zip? Also is this even worth the time of 6gigs?

avelle

2009-04-16, 19:44

I think beta is over already no?

Ohaigaiz

2009-04-16, 19:50

Oh, right

OzzofAsura

2009-04-16, 21:56

Yeah, ended today, I believe. You can P2P if you like though.

Siya

2009-04-17, 02:22

Where are people P2Ping from? >.>

crazyrabbit

2009-04-17, 04:54

japanese beta was anounced, pre-open beta in june (dunno if closed or only family&friends) and open beta starting 12th of july
still no word of us/eu though :/

OzzofAsura

2009-04-17, 06:26

Where are people P2Ping from? >.>

For the Chinese or Korean versions.

Katlan

2009-04-17, 12:06

Actually, the ENU patch is a leaked/lifted version of the NA/EU Friends & Family beta. It's near perfect until mid 20's where it dies off (as far as they have gotten w/ the leaked version - so I'm sure it's much further now), but it shows how far they have come. So the ENU.patch is from NCwest... so if you say it "deters" from the experience then dunno how the NA release will be any diff from you aside your QQ'ing just to QQ. Only diff from the NA vs China retail will be : Localization (fully complete), change of a few key China folklore quests to fit westernization, CS's will be in a more western format, and things like that. If anything, the reason why the translation may seem a "little" misplaces at times it's because we are using a China UI where window's and stuff aren't made for NA release.

And for those who want to continue in P2P - here is a link to how to do that from a trusted source. I take no credit for all the info, just spreading the info on how to play for China retail. You don't need a registration key or any of that, its just Pay to Play. Remember if your using an Adult ID you alrdy are using the info of some person (lol), and i guess P2P doesn't require a reg code. Still doesn't make sense that they don't charge you for the game, but you can buy it from a gaming store so maybe just those who DL/ torrented the client got lucky :P

japanese beta was anounced, pre-open beta in june (dunno if closed or only family&friends) and open beta starting 12th of july
still no word of us/eu though :/

NCwest is dealing w/our version of the game and their time table (from what I understand) has no bearing on the JP version of the game since each country is a diff team (NCjapan / NCchina / ect... afaik). Our version is slated for release sometime around July - Sept (according to dev post), and you can expect a small beta between that time also

Purrrfect

2009-04-17, 12:15

Fuck the ob... I was doing a fine job of ignoring before that came along, now i fucking want this game again asap. ><

OzzofAsura

2009-04-17, 12:31

Our version is slated for release sometime around July - Sept (according to dev post), and you can expect a small beta between that time also

I think our release is September-October and from what I've read, no beta for us, just the "preview events" which will include a very limited number of people.

Lordwafik

2009-04-17, 12:51

Just got my Aion family and friends test code / install file (I got a buddy working in NCsoft).

Still highly skeptical about it considering it's an asian MMO, but I will install and dick around.

Rulke

2009-04-17, 14:54

FFXI is "asian" too, and you liked it. I'd suggest just going into it with an open mind. Since you are able to test it for free, you dont have to worry about the pressure of "I paid for this?!" whether its a good or bad feeling.

Fallyn

2009-04-17, 15:09

Actually, the ENU patch is a leaked/lifted version of the NA/EU Friends & Family beta. It's near perfect until mid 20's where it dies off (as far as they have gotten w/ the leaked version - so I'm sure it's much further now), but it shows how far they have come. So the ENU.patch is from NCwest... so if you say it "deters" from the experience then dunno how the NA release will be any diff from you aside your QQ'ing just to QQ.

Like I said; the patch was great, I guess it's just personal preference and maybe I was wrong with what I said, but personally I don't think I'm gunna pick it up.

I'm not QQing, I'm just saying that I didn't like it after all the hype I gave it I guess.

Lordwafik

2009-04-17, 18:17

FFXI is "asian" too, and you liked it. I'd suggest just going into it with an open mind. Since you are able to test it for free, you dont have to worry about the pressure of "I paid for this?!" whether its a good or bad feeling.

I liked it too while I was playing and paying , when I got banned I could look back and see the flaws of it as an unpaid customer vs other mmos and holy shit grindfest XI + shitty drop rates on everything + world spawns on anything worth a crap and long respawn timers = no thanks ever again. I'm not being a bitter HURRRRRRRRR SE HURRRRRR, but I can see the style between an east vs a west mmo and the difference is significant in my eyes.

Asian MMOs make you grind mobs for exp and never try to hide it in quests or such (until now with Aion really). I think the shitty drop rate thing is just a SE flavour since all the other ones I tried out after FF had high drop rates for a lot of things, but whatever I'm very skeptical of them.

Krandor

2009-04-17, 18:51

Just got my Aion family and friends test code / install file (I got a buddy working in NCsoft).

Still highly skeptical about it considering it's an asian MMO, but I will install and dick around.

I'll see you there Waffles!

Purrrfect

2009-04-23, 14:44

There is going to be some kind of free Aion on the chinese servers April 30-May 15 I think. There is a thread about it in the news section on aionsource.

And JP beta later July or something.

Falisa

2009-04-25, 17:25

If anyone is interested in playing on the Chinese retail version and being an asmodian, a friend and I are playing together on the northern China servers, Ciel server. :)

Gokulo

2009-04-27, 00:39

I was playing on the Berita server in the 4th region, but atm it seems dumb admins on the campus decided to put some stupid firewall or something blocking ton of things, and I can't connect.... ; ; Damn and just as I was having so much fun with my Fire Spirit.

One of few SS I saved(not much of a photo-snapper):
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/295/aion0000zjh.jpg
Was really surprised to see the mobs fighting themselves :D

Aro

2009-04-28, 16:32

If anyone is interested in playing on the Chinese retail version and being an asmodian, a friend and I are playing together on the northern China servers, Ciel server. :)

Should move to Region 4 Bertia server ;3 !

Rulke

2009-04-28, 16:34

Ive noticed in numerous screen shots, like the one Gokulo posted, that there seem to be plenty of monsters for people to level up on. Is this usually true? I heard early rumors that it was hard to find any due to swarms of people running all over and killing mobs, which lead to mob stealing et.

Fayttt

2009-04-28, 22:06

It really wasn't too bad. The respawn rates were really quick; the mobs were somewhat abundant. It was more fast-ass respawn rates that helped out.

Aro

2009-04-30, 19:39

Ive noticed in numerous screen shots, like the one Gokulo posted, that there seem to be plenty of monsters for people to level up on. Is this usually true? I heard early rumors that it was hard to find any due to swarms of people running all over and killing mobs, which lead to mob stealing et.

It's alright, some popular grind spots have less mobs, but that can be compared to two camps partying together in FFXI. Although it can usually support around 3-5 people depending on the camp. Ksing is actually sort of a problem right now, since drops on monsters are decided on who did the most % dmg.

Imagine, Faf spawning and all the alliances fighting to see who gets the highest damage to get drops.

Falisa

2009-05-01, 19:35

There are several things about the claim system and mob mechanics that really bother me. Certain things make it so easy to MPK or steal another person's monster. There are so many times my friend and I were killing some elite monsters for a quest drop and some person thats about 5 levels higher than us walks up and decimates the monster, getting the drops.

Its also extremely easy to MPK anyone you wish, as there is no..i guess you could say wait period between deaggro and aggroing you. As soon as a monster pops, if you're next to it, it will aggro you. Or if someone brings about 5 monsters and dies next to you, they immediatly aggro you when the person dies. If you know from FFXI, the mosnters kind of wander around a bit on pop before they are aggroable, gives you time to run out of aggro range. Hope they fix these issues sometime in the future, and I just hope theres no world spawns, I havent exactly looked into the endgame of Aion that deeply. :P

Purrrfect

2009-05-02, 21:22

There are several things about the claim system and mob mechanics that really bother me. Certain things make it so easy to MPK or steal another person's monster. There are so many times my friend and I were killing some elite monsters for a quest drop and some person thats about 5 levels higher than us walks up and decimates the monster, getting the drops.

Its also extremely easy to MPK anyone you wish, as there is no..i guess you could say wait period between deaggro and aggroing you. As soon as a monster pops, if you're next to it, it will aggro you. Or if someone brings about 5 monsters and dies next to you, they immediatly aggro you when the person dies. If you know from FFXI, the mosnters kind of wander around a bit on pop before they are aggroable, gives you time to run out of aggro range. Hope they fix these issues sometime in the future, and I just hope theres no world spawns, I havent exactly looked into the endgame of Aion that deeply. :P

I hate that about monster spawnings being active off the bat. And the people dropping a train on you sucks too, particularly because unlike FFXI where mobs would walk back at a slow pace, these run back at full speed so you don't have much chance to avoid them or get out of the way. Fortunately it hasn't happened much, and as this game doesn't seem to be much on the whole "find a campsite and kill shit" it might not really be much of an issue.

richardd

2009-05-02, 22:06

despite that, ill still pick it up as my next main MMO.

im upgrading my PC for the pure reason of playing it at full specs <_>;

i agree with wafic. after looking at FFXI at a non-paying customer POV, i never realized how much other MMO's had to offer as far as versatility in comparison to grindfesting so much. I cant wait till Aion hits the shelves. My old crew is gonna gather on there as well.

Kitha

2009-05-03, 15:37

despite that, ill still pick it up as my next main MMO.

im upgrading my PC for the pure reason of playing it at full specs <_>;

i agree with wafic. after looking at FFXI at a non-paying customer POV, i never realized how much other MMO's had to offer as far as versatility in comparison to grindfesting so much. I cant wait till Aion hits the shelves. My old crew is gonna gather on there as well.

word :>

Falisa

2009-05-03, 19:46

Time to make a legion on Aion NA called BlueGartr!

I really do like the game though. :D

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/2866/aion0027p.jpg

Ragnus

2009-05-03, 20:46

Is there a Beta out or something? Wikipedia says the game isn't coming out until fall. I'd gladly join Bluegartr Aion though.

Halion

2009-05-03, 21:03

Yeah if you google the Chinese OB there's a bunch of threads with instructions how to do it and common errors you encounter.
Can anyone here that reads Chinese help me change the game resolution from the launcher please? It defaults in one that my monitor doesn't support, I'm so emo ;;
I clicked the only button that looked like it could be options in the top right corner and I played with like every check box there to no avail.

Eanae

2009-05-03, 21:08

I'll most likely be sticking with my guild since I've put a lot of work into it already, but if a guild under the BG name does get started, I would definitely roll on the same server as BG people.

Koul

2009-05-03, 23:19

for the people playing the beta-

if I played and really enjoyed WoW, would this be a good one to hop into as soon as it comes out?

or should I hold out and see if people hate the game. ala AoC and Warhammer(somewhat)

Falisa

2009-05-03, 23:27

I don't know anything about WoW, but just so you know, the beta ended about two weeks ago now. The chinese version went into retail, so you have to pay to play now. Its very cheap though.

Halion

2009-05-04, 00:16

Certain regions still have free play until May 16th.

Krandor

2009-05-04, 01:25

Is there a Beta out or something? Wikipedia says the game isn't coming out until fall. I'd gladly join Bluegartr Aion though.

Speaking personally I'm in the friends and family alpha for the US version, but I haven't touched it for awhile since the 3.1 patch in WoW has kept me occupied with my video game time.

Aro

2009-05-04, 20:15

for the people playing the beta-

if I played and really enjoyed WoW, would this be a good one to hop into as soon as it comes out?

Hmm, well so far in China there is a fair bit of grinding once you pass lvl 20ish since quests aren't as common. I can't be sure if you'd like it. What do you look for most in a MMO? This game has a strong PvP focus, while doing PvE stuff is starting to get bigger and bigger as they add updates.

Purrrfect

2009-05-05, 08:59

for the people playing the beta-

if I played and really enjoyed WoW, would this be a good one to hop into as soon as it comes out?

or should I hold out and see if people hate the game. ala AoC and Warhammer(somewhat)

I didn't play wow much, only to 25 or so. I liked the game, but I couldn't stand blizzard's art direction in the game and the engine was just lulz. That said I like Aion much better. I don't know if I like it better than FFXI though, we'll see in 5 years. I'm anxious for them to add more PvE content, specifically stuff like assaults or limbus. It is pretty much PvP at endgame from what I understand. If you aren't worried about dropping $30-40 on the game I would pick it up, the best time to play even if it doesn't last would be when everyone starts up. I don't think it will be as big as wow, unless they refine it a lot before US release, and even then you have the shit ton of wow fanboys that won't even listen when you mention another game.

Yeah if you google the Chinese OB there's a bunch of threads with instructions how to do it and common errors you encounter.
Can anyone here that reads Chinese help me change the game resolution from the launcher please? It defaults in one that my monitor doesn't support, I'm so emo ;;
I clicked the only button that looked like it could be options in the top right corner and I played with like every check box there to no avail.
Send me a pm if you're on msn or aim and I'll hook you up.

Is there a Beta out or something? Wikipedia says the game isn't coming out until fall. I'd gladly join Bluegartr Aion though.
No beta for US release. There will be a beta for the japanese release in July sometime, and there is the mention free time on china's new server groups until middle of the month.

Gulkeeva

2009-05-05, 10:15

Is there a list of what you should have for max settings?

and yeah I kind of want to try the game out when not doing too much in wow, I'm nearly at the limit for max characters on 1 account, and all of them are max level basically ;/

Weltall

2009-05-05, 11:17

rich, count me in to whatever guild you are joining/creating XD It would be fun to get a BG group going for Aion.

This is absolutely my next major invested MMO.

Katlan

2009-05-05, 11:32

should join up for the China retail weltall since no "real" US date yet and it may be a good many months away, game is awesome. Only "real" gripe I have w/ the game is the "claim via dmg done" system. Basically there is no "mob claim," instead as many ppl can atk crap and the person/ (or party of ppl) who does the most dmg gets the loot. Will be interesting for world bosses if they are designed around this way to be zerged by multiple legions at once... but for farming NM's it sucks to be a healer :x

for the people playing the beta-
I've been playing in China retail ever since it went live... Yes, Aion has characteristics of other mmo's (obviously)... I mean I get a FFXI vibe from it, I get minor WoW vibe from it. You can lv solo if you want, but you will be forced to group for a good amount of missions/quests throughout the game. These are designed well in that there are TONS of group quests/missions in "X" area. So you will have to revisit "X" area multiple times to complete all the stuff. This is nice because you can group w/ ppl on later quests/missions (in the same area) and still complete yours (vice versa).

While you can theoretically lv the entire way to 50 solo, you will be rly gimped in the access to gear and other stuff since you need to complete missions to get access to other areas/aspects of the game. These group missions/quests give a strong FFXI vibe because XP is great while you do them also. Kinda feels like FFXI party'ing and made me want to make a rly good PT to chain mobs lol.

When you die you lose XP (you don't down-lv), but you can purchase your xp back for gold. Game's economy seems rly nice... you will be AH camping at times to find good deals on stuff. Money is kidna odd in the game since there is only "kinah" and you just get tons of money at times so prices will seem a bit escalated early on from what your used to from other mmo's.

at 20 you get access to the stigma system w/ is kinda like a talent system w/a twist. You can only hold so many stigma's and some are obtained via quests, some via NM's, other's rare world drops, ect... You can change them up as necessary (you lose the stigma stone when you do this), but they are the way to make one "priest" diff from the next "priest" for ex

Game is a lot of fun, but if your used to completing everything solo or killing mobs fast (ala WoW) it isn't gonna be your cup of tea. I mean i don't feel weak vs mobs, but mobs don't die like candy either and take effort. You will die, you will die lots (lol)... it's just that its a harder game then ppl who are used to WoW are familiar w/.

Oh yeah... crafting is time consuming but more in line w/ what you expect in FFXI then WoW. You can only craft at your crafting center, and you can lv up your craft early on by just work orders. But you will have to do some intensive farming for mats and it takes a lot of money. And it reminds me more of FFXI in that... for ex: crafted gear is some of the best end game gear you can get atm (alongside PvP gear), but lets say you get a "white item" recipe. If you Crit (HQ) that recipe you will get the higher green version of it. But if you double crit the recipe (crit off of the crit) then you will get a "blue item" (naming is diff, but explaining it in WoW terms). You can also desynth your old items (lv of desynthed items depends on what you desynth) and apply the raw material to your gear to +1 it. can do it multiple times to +2, +3, ect... but if you fail at applying the raw materials your item will go down a lv (if higher then +1). Oh yeah, crafting builds on lower recipes... aka: making low lv ignots for higher lv recipes.. and if you fail a synth get rdy to lose your mats lol

OzzofAsura

2009-05-05, 11:38

should join up for the China retail weltall since no "real" use date yet and it may be a good many months away, game is awesome. Only "real" gripe I have w/ the game is the "claim via dmg done" system. Basically there is no "mob claim," instead as many ppl can atk crap and the person/ (or party of ppl) who does the most dmg gets the loot. Will be interesting for world bosses if they are designed around this way to be zerged by multiple legions at once... but for farming NM's it sucks to be a healer :x

I think being ex-FFXI players is gonna end up being a big advantage to things like this though. The difficulty and intricacy from XI will probably translate to quite a bit in most other "less-challenging" MMOs.

Lordwafik

2009-05-05, 11:44

for the people playing the beta-

if I played and really enjoyed WoW, would this be a good one to hop into as soon as it comes out?

or should I hold out and see if people hate the game. ala AoC and Warhammer(somewhat)

I am in the NCsoft friends and family beta, and as someone who's played both WoW and Aion, Aion to me feels like yet another WoW clone (yeah yeah). Walking past the Training dummies made me cringe on the inside, I thought there'd be some more originality. Hell I typed "/who" out of habit and got a search list. Went and found flight paths, and talked to my trainer to level up my class, and then went to my delivery box and found it was another write/send system.

Here's some screens to show you what I'm talking about :

http://wafiks.com/images/Aion0004.jpg

http://wafiks.com/images/Aion0012.jpg

http://wafiks.com/images/Aion0013.jpg

http://wafiks.com/images/Aion0020.jpg

http://wafiks.com/images/Aion0021.jpg

This is a good and bad point, obviously the game later branches out in different directions, but at the core I felt like I was playing gothic-fantasy WoW. I'm not of any level to raid or anything so I can't comment on that, the exp is kinda fun, there's something similar to Skillchains (more like self skillchain), they're combos that you can use moves in succession to make more powerful.

If you're not a competitive player, this game is not for you (unless you like to just stand around and roleplay and craft).
You're gonna hate exping here if there's assholes playing on your server because first person who tags the mob doesn't get the loot, it's the person who does the most damage. This game is made for competetiveness at heart, later on after lvl16 I think it was, you are sent to pvp, and the rest of the game dabbles in pvp and pve for questing and exping, later on quests die off, so it's not really a choice, it's more forced. PVE exp becomes grinding (like a merit party):P. Later on there's a zone called the Abyss, and that's the heart of the current game (think of it as Campaign, but other players instead of monsters for FFXIers, and Wintergrasp for WoWers), there'll be castles for guilds to capture, and you will have access to NPCs and Vendors specially for you, you can also earn abyss points and buy gear from pvping people, some of the best gear comes from this. If another faction has a castle, you can then fight their castle to take over it after a few hours have passed (it'll become open for attack).

The good point to this is it's extremely familiar for anyone who's played WoW for a few weeks, the down point is people who are looking for something different might be annoyed at the similarity.

A few people who have been playing Korean ver on message boards say that the game was overrun with gilsellers and the AH / money is a big issue in this game. I dunno if that got patched yet or not.

Music is spiff, love it a lot, the people who worked on the music for this game deserve an award, it just flows so beautifully through the whole game, it doesn't sharply cut off or start anywhere, it all flows into itself, graphics are ok too.

Ex-FFXIers will definitely have an advantage as they're used to Asian RPGs (grind grind grind repeat repeat repeat), but I think the advantage is going to be from people who are used to playing a PVP game (Warhammer, Conan, PvPserver WoW, etc) Ballista doesn't count because ballista is a joke.

Despite what I said, this is my own review of the game, I don't enjoy it more on the sense that it's not offering me something fresh. Everyone has their own opionion, try it when it comes out to find yours :)

Gulkeeva

2009-05-05, 11:56

mmm "who does most damage" exp/loot eh, reminds me of RO... it at times really sucked, when you find a rare mob and you are semi struggling with it and some guy comes by higher level and just massacres it.

The combo system thing isn't "too bad" i've done it before, only thing that may suck is if the mob does some attack to move you or it moves, or someone taunts it etc from you and messes you up... or you lag etc ;/

Katlan

2009-05-05, 13:07

The combo system thing isn't "too bad" i've done it before, only thing that may suck is if the mob does some attack to move you or it moves, or someone taunts it etc from you and messes you up... or you lag etc ;/

Combo system is done well.. You have a grace period to enter the next command. I've started a combo before where the next part in the chain is on CD for 5 more seconds and still was able to pull it off. And combo's aren't limited by the mob - you could essentially do it FFXI style and start your chain on "X" mob to use your finisher on "Y." Getting stunned out of your chain is the main thing that will stop you. That and getting a resist/miss.. resists/misses don't progress your chain

Weltall

2009-05-05, 14:25

I'll look over this thread later, but I am kind of busy right now. How can I get the Chinese retail version up and going? :)

Conformity

2009-05-05, 15:31

I'll look over this thread later, but I am kind of busy right now. How can I get the Chinese retail version up and going? :)

Talk to my nigga qui-jin over in shanghai. I just went to his factory to check on a prototype, he told me that alot of people are playing on his server from america. PM me and I will send you his details.

Akanei

2009-05-05, 16:15

I thought there'd be some more originality. Hell I typed "/who" out of habit and got a search list. and then went to my delivery box and found it was another write/send system.

Blah blah neither of these are WoW firsts, blah blah.

Seriously, you can only do so much with a mundane system. I don't see why this is even brought up when people review games.

Weltall

2009-05-05, 17:07

It seems they have taken things that work from various games. Why reinvent something that already works well? We have seem companies try this with newer MMOs (Age of Conan / Warhammer) and the conclusions have not been pretty.

Olo401

2009-05-06, 08:39

Hm.. downside is graphically it looks eerily like WoW with an upgrade and that's gonna be a turnoff. But the GUI looks more polished like WAR.

Blabj

2009-05-06, 08:52

I think the reason that it's quite similar to WoW is because WoW's UI is better than FFXI's and the like... It's more intuitive anyways, FFXI always seems so limited.

It looks decent but I don't think I'm going to have the time to play an MMO anymore, not with Modern Warfare 2 being released around the same time. It'll be interesting to see if they can make anyone jump ship from FFXI etc.

Purrrfect

2009-05-06, 13:56

Hm.. downside is graphically it looks eerily like WoW with an upgrade and that's gonna be a turnoff. But the GUI looks more polished like WAR.

I cannot understand how people can make this statement. Must be more subjective than I figured cuz I can't stand the look of wow but I love this game.

@Wafik, are those shots of an actual F&F event or using the english patch on another version? I was hoping they'd get the text clipping fixed on the quest dialog windows. My legion is scheduled to participate in some upcoming F&F events been details haven't been released yet.

I do hope they fix a few things before a US release, which I fully would not expect before Oct.1 personally. I think they know they have to have shit spot-on to be successful here.

@Katlan, You can HQ the white recipes and get greens from them? I though the greens only came from green recipes and the blues were HQ of the greens. I read on aionsource some guy was saying that craft level has no effect on HQ rate, which I have a REAL hard time believing.

Man I love Gulk's sigs. Need to visit that site again...

Halion

2009-05-07, 04:49

I cannot understand how people can make this statement.

I do hope they fix a few things before a US release, which I fully would not expect before Oct.1 personally. I think they know they have to have shit spot-on to be successful here.

Agreex2.
Seriously, WoW-like graphics? Seriously? Seriously dude? Seriously?
Main issues for me atm are looting is down right annoying and the last two pages of a quest dialog often feel redundant. Click click click click. Sometimes I randomly stop auto-attacking after using an ability which I assume is a bug as well as gathering too soon after last gathering will make you start for a split second then stop again and emote. Early releases are probably always like this though because companies want out get their game out making money instead of polishing it off with what ends up being about the first years worth of updates, adjustments and bug fixes.

Thanks to Purrrfect <3! I got to play some and I'm not sure yet if I'll be buying it when it comes out but I do like things about it. It's not as Guild Warsy as I was idly hoping it would be but it does enough common MMO elements right that just the setting, graphics and music are strong reasons to play over another game. I need to do the Elyos ascension quest now but I find it interesting that Asmodians consider them the evil faction and if anything they said in the Asmo ascension quest is true then they pretty much are. Maybe not "evil" exactly but not the perfect Angels their looks want to make you believe they are.

If I do buy it I also need more RAM c.c

Hyan

2009-05-07, 04:59

Yar I think the graphics are more like FFXI upgraded which is a huge plus to me, too bad I won't be playing this. But I don't think they're anywhere near WoW.

DnightX

2009-05-07, 06:18

It seems they have taken things that work from various games. Why reinvent something that already works well? We have seem companies try this with newer MMOs (Age of Conan / Warhammer) and the conclusions have not been pretty.

Warhammer was bad because of end game in my opinion, when you hit lvl 40 ( when i was playing) you had the best pvp area to play in.... but after that there wasn't much to it which made me really sad ;(

Pooky

2009-05-07, 06:47

Warhammer was bad because of end game in my opinion, when you hit lvl 40 ( when i was playing) you had the best pvp area to play in.... but after that there wasn't much to it which made me really sad ;(

That and the total lack of polish (due to EA's pressuring to release) were the worst things about WAR. Once you hit 40 there's *nothing* to do but grind RP, which as a Zealot means outside healing in SC's forever -.-;

I started playing the Chinese release of Aion last week, and I absolutely love it. The Exp grind is really not bad, a bit steeper than WAR, nowhere near as punishing as FF though. There are a few minor things that bug me, (Lack of UI customization, no dual targeting) but on a whole its a really good game so far, I'm really having fun with it.

Conformity

2009-05-07, 08:59

Warhammer was bad because of end game in my opinion, when you hit lvl 40 ( when i was playing) you had the best pvp area to play in.... but after that there wasn't much to it which made me really sad ;(

God damn that game pissed me off. YAY UR IN TOP TEIR NOW U GET TO GRIND THE SAME PVP INSTANCES 4EEEVVVEEEERRRRR!

I wish they made pvp consequential, like losing exp and/or one item loot like back at rallos :(

Purrrfect

2009-05-07, 09:08

Sometimes I randomly stop auto-attacking after using an ability which I assume is a bug as well as gathering too soon after last gathering will make you start for a split second then stop again and emote.

Lots of people have the auto-attack turn off issue. Personally I think it comes from lag/server and client getting something out of sync. For the gathering thing, some have said its to allow others to use the gathering node, others have said its to keep macro bots from spamming the right-click. Either way if you wait a few seconds between gatherings it seems to not happen.

I need to do the Elyos ascension quest now but I find it interesting that Asmodians consider them the evil faction and if anything they said in the Asmo ascension quest is true then they pretty much are. Maybe not "evil" exactly but not the perfect Angels their looks want to make you believe they are.

If I do buy it I also need more RAM c.c

I have heard that if you read the lore for both sides it looks like the Elyos are the reason the Asmodians are stuck in the ice world they have, so they are right bitter. I haven't read for myself yet. From my systems 1gb is really doingthe game an injustice (it swaps tot he pagefile so much the game really suffers), 2gb of ram runs pretty ok, 4-6gb means it loads stuff once and thats it.^^

I started playing the Chinese release of Aion last week, and I absolutely love it. The Exp grind is really not bad, a bit steeper than WAR, nowhere near as punishing as FF though. There are a few minor things that bug me, (Lack of UI customization, no dual targeting) but on a whole its a really good game so far, I'm really having fun with it.

Yeah grinding is quite a bit faster than FF.^^ I did that last night thru lv13 since I was on a dry spell of quests I could solo and was done in no time (like <30mins I think, as a healer/support class).

BTW, so up until 14 at least my chanter would kick my templars ass all day long and twice on sunday. Hoping the templar picks up at some point.

Koul

2009-05-07, 10:16

mmm... that monster tagging system is lame....

I don't know. I kind of want to play this in a casual mindset but I don't think I could lol.

meh, I'll wait and see what becomes of it.

Pooky

2009-05-07, 10:36

Yeah grinding is quite a bit faster than FF.^^ I did that last night thru lv13 since I was on a dry spell of quests I could solo and was done in no time (like <30mins I think, as a healer/support class).

BTW, so up until 14 at least my chanter would kick my templars ass all day long and twice on sunday. Hoping the templar picks up at some point.

It does, around 20. Dueled one the other night on my chanter, and actually timed out of the duel because I just could not kill them. All the templar had to do was wait until I ran out of mp and kill me lol; he killed me twice then on the third I got off a mana treatment and timed out -.-;

Jaybar

2009-05-07, 10:43

After reading most of this thread (well, post page 11..) I really want to get this game now. I lost my feel for MMOs after FFXI and briefly AoC/WAR, but I feel like I might like this one a lot better. Of course, now I need to get a PC to play since my laptop is now completely outdated.

Ragnus

2009-05-07, 10:54

The game looked a lot better in the class demo I saw on youtube...

Katlan

2009-05-07, 11:35

If you're not a competitive player, this game is not for you (unless you like to just stand around and roleplay and craft).
You're gonna hate exping here if there's assholes playing on your server because first person who tags the mob doesn't get the loot, it's the person who does the most damage. This game is made for competetiveness at heart, later on after lvl16 I think it was, you are sent to pvp, and the rest of the game dabbles in pvp and pve for questing and exping, later on quests die off, so it's not really a choice, it's more forced. PVE exp becomes grinding (like a merit party):P. Later on there's a zone called the Abyss, and that's the heart of the current game (think of it as Campaign, but other players instead of monsters for FFXIers, and Wintergrasp for WoWers), there'll be castles for guilds to capture, and you will have access to NPCs and Vendors specially for you, you can also earn abyss points and buy gear from pvping people, some of the best gear comes from this. If another faction has a castle, you can then fight their castle to take over it after a few hours have passed (it'll become open for attack).

Not to sound like an ass wafik, but i think ur looking too hard for reasons to not enjoy the game. And I learned that while mobs loot is based on a "total dmg" system, healing counts towards that also so healers arent SoL. And frankly I think the game is more familiar to FFXI then WoW. Saying the game feels like WoW just makes very little sense to me because the only thing similar to WoW is questing... and that's not even original to WoW. You want a party grind system? That will never happen in another mmo like it did in FFXI, so unless a new lv'ing system is created I don't see a diff trend happening. There is no talent tree, there is very little similar to WoW imo. But to each there own.

There is an abundance of quests if you like to PvP and go into the Abyss. At lv 25 your encouraged to go to the Abyss... and if you decide to PvE all the way to 50 you will run dry of quests, its just how it works in Aion. But if you PvP & PvE you will very rarely run out of quests unless your skipping stuff along the way because you can't find groups and stuff. I dunno how crowded the F&F Beta is, but on my China server it's easy to find groups for anything you need.

@Katlan, You can HQ the white recipes and get greens from them? I though the greens only came from green recipes and the blues were HQ of the greens. I read on aionsource some guy was saying that craft level has no effect on HQ rate, which I have a REAL hard time believing.

I'm currently lv 132 Armorsmith and I've been taking the easy route to lv up off of Work Orders. So I can't say for certain on HQ and HQ +1. But some of the best PvE end game gear is crafted via HQ +1. You know when you gather how you get a crit that pushes the bar forward at a further rate? Thats a single crit... A double crit is when you get the purple gathering bar that is an instant win lol. Now I'm not sure if you need to "end" the synth/craft w/a finishing crit or double crit to get HQ/HQ+1 results (since I haven't tried yet) or if it just needs to happen w/in the crafting process. Hope that makes some sense.

And yes, high lv's does make crit'ing lower lv recipe's easier. If you have ever gone back and tried to gather a lower lv node you will know what I mean. What maybe took you 10 seconds before is usually insta crit and takes like 2 seconds to gather. It's not always the case, but it's definitely an enhanced rate. I don't think the system of crit'ing lower lv recipes is as deep as FFXI's as you still have a good chance to single crit equal lv recipes (double crit is just plain luck and may be harder on lower lv recipes since you finish them faster w/leads to less "chance" - but I may be wrong since I haven't gotten to indepth yet).

BTW, so up until 14 at least my chanter would kick my templars ass all day long and twice on sunday. Hoping the templar picks up at some point.

at 30 Templars/Guardians become a beast. They are kinda lacking compared to assassins/rangers earlier on... but if you keep up w/your Templar you won't be disappointed later on. Templars kinda seem to get the shaft early on as they are like Cleric's and get their "dps" abilities later on compared to other classes. Prolly has to do w/ them getting more "tank" oriented stuff as an earlier priority and how cleric's get their healing stuff as a priority

OzzofAsura

2009-05-07, 12:21

Today at 7PM EST Liv will be interviewed live (!) on "Loading...", Ten Ton Hammer's weekly live podcast. She'll be answering questions too, so definitely get in on this!

I'm looking to make this the next MMO I try as WAR and AoC and WotLK-WoW have all failed to keep me longer than 1-2 months.

Aside from questing/PVPing for leveling how are the other areas of the game? Crafting was abysmal in WAR and AoC, is it better here? I guess what I'm asking is aside from the normal old questing and level grinding what else is there? I always thought WoW had great atmosphere/casual content like the exploration, fishing, rep grinds and want a new MMO that can provide a similar variety of things to do if you don't just want to grind.

Aro

2009-05-07, 17:09

I would say EXP wise Aion is pretty demanding, comparable to FFXI for sure. At least in patch 1.0. If you find the *best* grind spots you can maybe get a lvl from 30+ every 3-4hrs. And no doing quests is not more efficient.

Koul

2009-05-08, 02:56

Hmmm... interesting. I'm in the same boat as some people. Lost my WoW spark 2 months into WoTLK. If it's more like FFXI but not... it... then I might actually enjoy it more. Kinda excited for it now.

How is the PvP?

does shit break with crafting?

I lvl'd BRD and WHM in FFXI and holy pally/priest in WoW so slow soloing/questing is fine with me.

Purrrfect

2009-05-08, 09:17

Yes you can fail a synth in Aion. I'm not sure if it is just some possible loss or 100% loss on materials though. And the crafting is a lot more like FFXI. You can level up a craft by making stuff per usual, or the guildmaster will give you a quest where you have to make X of an item, and the guy gives you one of the ingredients and you find the rest (these are quest recipes so you don't learn them and you can't make them without having the quest, but you can't uset he result item anyways). The downside I've seen (only up to 62 armorsmith) is that for every single synth through the guild quests you have to buy an item, so it does cost munies. Of course the things to buy are rather cheap. When crafting its like gathering where you have to progress bars, one success and one failure, and the one that fills first is the result. If you HQ a craft after the success bar fills you get another pair of bars to determine something, I've only done it once and don't know if its just hq-success/hq-fail or hq1/hq2. They also have an option to set how many of a synth you want to do and a synth all (teh awesome). Oh, and you get exp for synthing, albeit very little.

Akanei

2009-05-08, 13:02

You fail, you lose everything.

Aro

2009-05-08, 17:27

PvP is alright, so far on my server Elyos almost always win (due to uneven numbers) and there are usually gank parties roaming the Abyss. One thing I love is "Mini-pvp Arenas" and duels anywhere. So if you like PvP, you will probably like this game. One other thing is how they take it to a 3rd dimension (flying) and it offers a whole other opportunity to strategize.

Halion

2009-05-08, 20:47

All this comparing to FFXI or WOW seems mostly from people who never played one of the 5 billion free MMOs out there. If you've ever played a Korean MMO at all you will recognize Aion as Korean MMO-like, but there are plenty individual things to appreciate even if they are not "unique". The "FFXI-like" and "WOW-like" elements are MMO elements. Each game has a similar but not quite the same take on the same things. It's like arguing over Halo v CounterStrike v Socom. Realism v Fantasy, First person v Third person, Flying v Vehicle Combat, blah blah blah.
I love the setting in Aion, it has a realistic feel with the environment, medieval style castles and housing, and beautiful fantasy armors and monsters. However just like every other MMO you are killing beefed up version of the same Spriggs you killed for your first quest at lv40.
The main reason however to choose one MMO over the other is PVP. If you want the PVE to be the main focus of the game Aion isn't for you. They may add a lot of side things to do like FFXI has now but at the moment you aren't going to have much to do if you try to avoid PVP altogether. Personally I don't like how PVP is in WOW where Aion seems to have a better take on it. Despite being able to use wasd and skill bars in the same way I also find it much easier to maneuver and kite in most Korean MMOs I've played where I simply cannot get used to doing it in WOW and pretty much flail around until I get killed whenever I'm faced with an opposing faction member. Aion also doesn't want you to choose one or the other, they want PVP and PVE to be commonly accessible and enjoyable to everyone.

I have 1 GB of RAM and it takes being in a city for about 30 minutes before I can actually make an attempt to run anywhere with a hint of smoothness. I have everything turned down as low as possible including muting the sound. I close every background app on my computer. It was OK until I got into Pandaemonium and then Altgard. I can't have weather but I can turn the detail up and the music on outside of the cities. I don't have lag problems in WOW for the most part on ~medium settings unless I try to go to Dalaran. Max settings on a beefy system on this game could be breathtaking.

Kitha

2009-05-09, 08:09

After reading most of this thread (well, post page 11..) I really want to get this game now. I lost my feel for MMOs after FFXI and briefly AoC/WAR, but I feel like I might like this one a lot better. Of course, now I need to get a PC to play since my laptop is now completely outdated.

Yes come Jay, join the dark side! Pee on laptops while FLYING!

MisterBob

2009-05-09, 19:20

Is there any negative to playing the China retail? If the NA version came out, would I have to restart to play on NA servers?

Purrrfect

2009-05-09, 20:13

Is there any negative to playing the China retail? If the NA version came out, would I have to restart to play on NA servers?

The negative would be you can't understand 99% of the players? When the NA version comes you will have to start over, and you will be on a different server so no transferring anything.

Vail

2009-05-13, 21:57

nothing much to add other then I'm greatly waiting for this game to come out state-side, it'll be nice to play a single class game again