So what you are basically saying is that obama's new tax on stupidity is affecting his minions and they are dumbfounded. Seems about right.

I think what they're saying is that the social security tax break, meant to be temporary, expired, but the rest of the temporary bush tax breaks were
renewed, temporarily. Lots of temporarilies in there. They get to keep toying with us. The Reps make it seem like they're for tax cuts for all, but
that just means more debt, as we saw during the Bush years, leading to a weaker dollar, leading to less purchasing power despite tax breaks. The Dems
make it seem like they're for the middle class, but just like Reps, they like to spend like mad, plus a bit more, offsetting their higher taxes on
the wealthy.

There is one cure for it all, and it was the American Way, even when the top tax tier was 90% - a booming, strong economy. Such an economy increases
wages relative to costs, lowers the debt to GDP ratio, and all is well. The question has never been IF it will ever happen again, its *when*. People
need to view our charts and history. Things are not as out of balance as people would like to believe.

Why, oh why people still doesn't get it, the government propaganda of nick picking the news that are delivered to the public works so
well that it doesn't matter how much we tell people the reality of the present administration they still do not see it, even defend what is been
going on

Let me spell it for you people, the pay roll taxes are not the only tax heading our way under Obama

This were the plans since he took office, And this taxes are just on top of the new one that the Fiscal Cliff added

Starting with Obamacare, since the beginning the aiming to the rich was nothing but propaganda we All be hit with new taxes

Note that these taxes are both "progressive" (aimed at rich people) and "regressive" (aimed at the middle class and poor people). The big
ones--the 3.8% investment income hike and the Medicare tax increase--only hit you if you're making more than $200,000 a year. The rest hit you no
matter how much you're making.

While the propaganda tells that this will only affect the rich, is not so, How about getting your taxes raise in the 77% of households because the
truth is that the 23% actually doesn't work so anybody with a job regardless of income will get taxed under Obama.

Obama's $264 Billion Tax for 2013 May Spark New Recession,

Despite President Obama's promise during both of his campaigns not to raise taxes on middle-income wage earners, The Tax Policy Center reports taxes
will go up for over 77 percent of American households.

[snipped] will have a lot more to crab about once the obamacare taxes - yes, taxes - get going.
I am amazed by people's stupidity in voting for such an obvious fraud and crying like a bunch of babies as their paycheck shrinks. What did they
think was going to happen? Santa Claus not coming to town? No Robinhood?
That's right, get ready to hand over everything to your socialist prez as he uses your tax dollars to party the night away.

If the premise of your thread is the social security payroll tax going up, then you have started a pointless thread. Anyone who has taken evan a
small amount of time to pay attention, and who has any sort of memory at all, will realize that President Obama actually reduced the payroll tax to
help out during the worst of the recession. He renewed the reduction for a second time last year. Now, though, it has went back to the previous
levels; not an increase, just going back to the previous levels (as he has always said it would).

He is dismantling your military,increasing taxes. Trying to disarm your citizens. Providing your state of the art war planes to his Muslim
brotherhood. Brought down your economy and takes no personal responsibility for HIS ACTIONS. Fast AND FURIOUS. Is he a Teflon Don err President? He is
dismantling America. And no one does anything. But watch and cry. How pathetic is that. Impeach!

this reply is to a comment u made to me in a previously shut down thread.

i did say the government isnt willing to control its spending, we also as individuals need to learn to control our personal spending! we cant always
blame everything on the government just as we shouldnt expect the government to do everything for us. ask not what the government can do for you, but
what you can do for yourself.

the majority of people voted for obama because they wanted change and were sick of 8 years of bush. truth is 9/11 truly did what they wanted to do
which is hit us where it matters most, our wallets. trillions of dollars are being thrown at the fight on terrorism. they succeeded at putting us at
each others throats. it took a while but its really starting to become obvious, every year it effects another level of society. first it was the
poorest of the poor, then the working class and now the middle class is starting to feel it hard. pretty soon no one will be spared once inflation
hits so hard it will be cheaper to wipe your butt with dollar bills than with toilet paper. lets hope it doesn't get that bad!

Remember we the hard working class do everything for the government as the government do not earn a darn thing they just take what they want from the
working class, the rich will only lose what they want and always get it back in doubles.

Is never been what we can do for government is always what the tax payer can do for the corporate dictatorship that has taken over the nations
government.

I was one of the dumb ones that felt for Obama first round of change you can believe in and hope you can trust, but soon after election I saw him for
what he was, another wolf wearing sheep clothes to entice the gullible and desperate, gullible I am not, but desperate I was.

do you have any sense of personal responsibility or is EVERYTHING obama and the governments fault? things are tough but u can still make it happen if
u really want. there is no stopping any of us from getting 2 or 3 mcjobs if thats the last option, saving our pennies and getting ahead in life. never
give up hope.

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