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4052 Zahn- C 2073 Q Ten or fifteen or twenty years ago? A Yes. Q You were still retaining your interest in the property when you made these visits, I mean by interest, concern in it? A The property was the property of the family, my mother's; I was the outside man, took care of the outside property for the family. Q Do you and your family still retain your interest in those claims? A Yes. MR. FARNSWORTH: That is all. MR. BLACZMAR: That is all, Mr. Zahn.