Putin always seemed very Scorpionic to me. He is boiling below the surface but cool and calculated at the top. Of the signs I have known, it is the earth signs + Scorpio that seem most capable of being ruthless and getting their way in the end. Virgo surprises because it seems so charming and innocent.. until it isn't. Virgo dark side seems like all of the characters in the movie "Sin City" , especially the character played by Elijah Wood, Kevin, and his counterpart Marv played by Mickey Rourke. Mickey Rourke is a Virgo, Elijah Wood has very Virgo-like traits. Barack Obama is definitely a Leo- he has very Leonine tendencies and characteristics. If Putin is Virgo in Vedic astrology, he fits my perception of the darker manifestation of Virgo. Virgo as a quiet leader with a spine of steel. I'm a fan of Putin's :).

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24536143

Well Putin is an INTJ personality, he is a strategist. INTJ do not have many emotions, they are rational and use logic. Virgo are pandentic, like to have everything perfect or theres trouble. Funnily enough I am also an INTJ and can vouch for this type of what people think as "ruthless" person, when in fact I am logical and get the job done. No need for pussy footing around situations if you have an important job to do.

Do you not think Obama is too "snarky" to be a leo? He seems to me like a bitchy version of a Leo, bad at open confrontation, more likely to do behind the scenes deals. Two faced, thats what I mean! lol

I'm a fan of Putin too, I'm a fan off anyone doing an efficient job to be honest! :)

Whats your sun, moon and ascendant sign? Do you know? I find the subject really interesting!

I'm Sag sun, Libra moon, Gemini ascendant!

Quoting: PallasAthene

Obama seems to me as a bitchy Leo as well! Very prissy and in need of much stroking to be effective! This is why I lack confidence in him- too much neediness and too little extroverted energy. I haven't looked at the rest of his chart. It is interesting that his spouse is Aquarius- opposite sun sign to Leo. She is so much stronger than him.. perhaps she should lead the country? I like the Enneagram explanations you gave. I am also INTJ and would not expect Putin to fit this but it works I suppose.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24536143

another INTJ! I can't believe my luck, are you a woman? I'm not feeling so odd on this thread now! Yes, that's why I'm saying Obama is a cancer sign, emotionally needy insecure and then turns his lack of popularity into bitchiness. His wife seems smart, I'd say she wears the trousers in that relationship. Well before becoming a politician Putin was an academic, studied law, then became an agent, regarding the legal point, lots of INTJ's are in academics, classic introvert employment, and as for his agent role, he had to think strategically, being somewhat unemotional, being rational and calculating risks, all things INTJ's do very well. He is in my opinion a classic example of an INTJ, doesn't say to much but he's always thinking and calculating. He's even got the classic INTJ "death stare" I have it too. lol