Missing Since: July 25, 1984 from San Francisco, California Classification: Endangered Missing Date Of Birth: November 30, 1950 Age: 33 years old Height and Weight: 5'4, 107 pounds Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair, brown eyes. Deborah has a tracheotomy scar on her neck. Her maiden name is Nourse. Deborah's ears are pierced. Some agencies may spell her last name "Dubbs." Clothing Description: A white blouse with red horizontal stripes, dark-colored slacks, sandals or brown loafers, a wedding band and a silver watch with a leather strap. Medical Conditions: Deborah was pregnant at the time of her 1984 disappearance. ​

Sean and his parents, Harvey Dubs and Deborah Dubs, lived in San Francisco, California in 1984. Harvey was selling video equipment in July of that year and placed an adverisement in a local newspaper. Deborah was speaking on the telephone to a friend on July 25 when the doorbell rang at their family's apartment. Deborah told her friend that she had to end the conversation, as two men who were interested in the items had arrived at their home. Deborah, Harvey and Sean have never been heard from again.

One of the Dub family's neighbors saw an Asian man leave their residence with a box later in the day. The same neighbor observed an unidentified vehicle drive away from the Dubs's apartment on July 26, the day after the family disappeared. The neighbor attempted to follow the car, but she lost the vehicle in traffic.

A man identifying himself as Jim Bright called Harvey's employer shortly afterwards and claimed that the family moved to Washington. The unidentified man terminated the conversation when Harvey's employer became suspicious.

Authorities believe that the Dubs family were victims of serial killers Charles Chitat (occasionally spelled "Chat") Ng and Leonard Lake. Photos of Ng and Lake are posted below this case summary. The men reportedly met through an advertisement in a survivalist magazine in the early 1980s. Lake was a former United States Marine and a Vietnam War veteran. Ng was a citizen of Hong Kong and falsified American citizenship documents in order to enlist in the Marines. Ng was charged with stealing weapons from the military in 1982 and was apprehended on Lake's property in California later that year. He was sentenced to 18 months in prison and should have been deported to Hong Kong after completing his sentence, but a bureaucratic error allowed Ng to remain in the United States.

Ng was released in 1984 and moved on to Lake's ranch in Wilseyville, California. Lake was a survivalist and the residence was stocked with weapons, explosives and provisions. Ng and Lake began using the ranch as a veritable sex slave compound shortly thereafter. Authorities believe that the men found their victims at random, as in the case of the Dubs family. The female victims were often videotaped and forced to perform sexual acts for Ng and Lake prior to their murders. The male victims and children were usually tortured before their deaths.

Investigators apprehended Lake after he and Ng were caught shoplifting from a San Francisco hardware store in 1985. Ng fled from officers, but Lake was taken into custody. The men were driving a vehicle owned by a missing person, who was later determined to have been one of their victims. A pistol and a silencer were discovered inside the car. Lake swallowed a cyanide capsule he taped to the collar of his shirt while in custody. He reportedly told authorities that Ng was his partner prior to his death several days later. Investigators searched Lake's property and uncovered the remains of several victims. Many of the bodies had been dismembered and burned, making identifications of the victims difficult or impossible.

Ng was apprehended in Canada later in 1985. He was convicted of eleven murders in California in 1999 after 14 years of legal wrangling and stalling. Ng's trial was one of the most expensive in California history. He claimed Lake was the actual murderer and has never accepted responsibility for the murders. A receipt in Harvey Dubs's name was discovered at Lake's compound, but the family's remains have never been recovered. It is believed that the Dubs family was forcibly abducted from their home and murdered at the ranch. Ng and Lake are also believed to be responsible for the 1985 disappearances of Jeffrey Gerald and Clifford Peranteau, both of whom vanished from San Francisco and have never been located.

Gerald was last seen in San Francisco, California on February 24, 1985. He has never been heard from again. Authorities believe that Gerald was a victim of serial killers Charles Chitat (occasionally spelled "Chat") Ng and Leonard Lake. Photos of Ng and Lake are posted below this case summary. The men reportedly met through an advertisement in a survivalist magazine in the early 1980s. Lake was a former United States Marine and a Vietnam War veteran. Ng was a citizen of Hong Kong and falsified American citizenship documents in order to enlist in the Marines. Ng was charged with stealing weapons from the military in 1982 and was apprehended on Lake's property in California later that year. He was sentenced to 18 months in prison and should have been deported to Hong Kong after completing his sentence, but a bureaucratic error allowed Ng to remain in the United States.

Ng was released in 1984 and moved on to Lake's ranch in Wilseyville, California. Lake was a survivalist and the residence was stocked with weapons, explosives and provisions. Ng and Lake began using the ranch as a veritable sex slave compound shortly thereafter. Authorities believe that the men found their victims at random, as in the Gerald's case. The female victims were often videotaped and forced to perform sexual acts for Ng and Lake prior to their murders. The male victims and children were usually tortured before their deaths.

Investigators apprehended Lake after he and Ng were caught shoplifting from a San Francisco hardware store in 1985. Ng fled from officers, but Lake was taken into custody. The men were driving a vehicle owned by a missing person, who was later determined to have been one of their victims. A pistol and a silencer were discovered inside the car. Lake swallowed a cyanide capsule he taped to the collar of his shirt while in custody. He reportedly told authorities that Ng was his partner prior to his death several days later. Investigators searched Lake's property and uncovered the remains of several victims. Many of the bodies had been dismembered and burned, making identifications of the victims difficult or impossible.

Ng was apprehended in Canada later in 1985. He was convicted of eleven murders in California in 1999 after 14 years of legal wrangling and stalling. Ng's trial was one of the most expensive in California history. He claimed Lake was the actual murderer and has never accepted responsibility for the murders.

Authorities believe that three members of the Dubs family -- Deborah, Harvey and Sean -- were victims of Ng and Lake. The men are also believed to be responsible for the 1985 San Francisco disappearance of Clifford Peranteau. None of the presumed victims have been located.

[indent][size=3][color=black]Peranteau was employed at [i]Dennis Moving Company[/i] in San Francisco, California in 1985. Witnesses told authorities that he often argued with one of his co-workers, Charles Chitat (occasionally spelled "Chat") Ng. Peranteau was last seen in San Francisco on January 20, 1985. He has never been heard from again. Several of Peranteau's personal belongings were discovered shortly afterwards in an apartment owned by Ng, as well as in the cabin Ng frequented with his friend, Leonard Lake.

Authorities believe that Peranteau was a victim of Ng and Lake, serial killers who operated in the San Francisco area in the 1980s. Photos of Ng and Lake are posted below this case summary. The men reportedly met through an advertisement in a survivalist magazine in the early 1980s. Lake was a former United States Marine and a Vietnam War veteran. Ng was a citizen of Hong Kong and falsified American citizenship documents in order to enlist in the Marines. Ng was charged with stealing weapons from the military in 1982 and was apprehended on Lake's property in California later that year. He was sentenced to 18 months in prison and should have been deported to Hong Kong after completing his sentence, but a bureaucratic error allowed Ng to remain in the United States.

Ng was released in 1984 and moved on to Lake's ranch in Wilseyville, California. Lake was a survivalist and the residence was stocked with weapons, explosives and provisions. Ng and Lake began using the ranch as a veritable sex slave compound shortly thereafter. Authorities believe that the men found their victims at random. The female victims were often videotaped and forced to perform sexual acts for Ng and Lake prior to their murders. The male victims and children were usually tortured before their deaths.

Investigators apprehended Lake after he and Ng were caught shoplifting from a San Francisco hardware store in 1985. Ng fled from officers, but Lake was taken into custody. The men were driving a vehicle owned by a missing person, who was later determined to have been one of their victims. A pistol and a silencer were discovered inside the car. Lake swallowed a cyanide capsule he taped to the collar of his shirt while in custody. He reportedly told authorities that Ng was his partner prior to his death several days later. Investigators searched Lake's property and uncovered the remains of several victims. Many of the bodies had been dismembered and burned, making identifications of the victims difficult or impossible.

Ng was apprehended in Canada later in 1985. He was convicted of eleven murders in California in 1999 after 14 years of legal wrangling and stalling. Ng's trial was one of the most expensive in California history. He claimed Lake was the actual murderer and has never accepted responsibility for the murders. Authorities believe that Peranteau was murdered as a result of his disagreements with Ng. Peranteau's remains have never been located. Ng and Lake are also believed to be responsible for the 1984 San Francisco disappearances of [url="http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dubs_deborah.html"][color=#800080]Deborah Dubs[/color][/url], her husband [url="http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dubs_harvey.html"][color=#800080]Harvey[/color][/url] and their young son [url="http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dubs_sean.html"][color=#800080]Sean[/color][/url], as well as the 1985 disappearance of [url="http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gerald_jeffrey.html"][color=#800080]Jeffrey Gerald[/color][/url].

I watched the episode of American Justice about Charles Ng and it sickened me. The things he did to these people and the children and the fact that he totally abused the justice system for years is disgusting. I hope he goes straight to hell after he is executed.

I was living in California at the time and this was a huge story, Ng and Lake are considered the worst serial killers in CA history and that in a state that has had more than its fair share of such "celebrities". Unfortunately, it is unlikely that Ng will ever be executed, as he was extradited from Canada -after serving a sentence there for attempted murder- under the condition that he not be put to death because Canada has a law on its books that makes it illegal to extradite suspects to jurisdictions where they might be executed, apparently most countries who have abolished the death penalty have such laws. For the sake of good relations with Canada Washington is pressuring Sacramento to keep its word even though I doubt most Canadians would give a damn if Ng is executed. That and the fact that California rarely executes death sentences to start with probably means Ng will die of natural causes while incarcerated.

I'm confused. I thought the Dub family was found at the Lake/Eng cabin at Wilseyvlle.

One has to wonder why DNA testing isn't done on the remains found in Wilseyville in order to put this to rest. I realize there were a lot of remains found but who knows how many missing people could be identified if DNA testing were done.

I'm also a bit disappointed on the info available on the victims, yet so much on Lake & Eng.