I caught just 10 minutes in the middle of an episode last night and thought it was pretty good. The tie-in to TFL just makes it more appealing.

One of the characters was going around to garage sales (its the episode where one of the garage sales was being hosted by a Jack Sparrow pirate look-a-like) and all the garage sales had guns . I guess that's common in Alaska, sure isn't the norm here (Minn.) I thought it was interesting.

If the universal background check comes about I guess garage sale guns will become a thing of the past even up in Alaska. I admit I'm still a little confused on the universal background check issue .

Ok that sounds trite. So a .500 Nitro can be a anything you want it to be; varminting round, a plinker, a self-defense rifle? Come on. Explain to me then how a 6lb rifle makes sense for a classic elephant/buffalo cartridge? Would you take that rifle hunting for grizzly, elephant or buffalo? Does it have any of the nostalgia of "just like the famous hunter so and so?" No, it moans "dork."

The young man who bought it did not seem to enjoy getting his shoulder banged up with just one or two shots. That was really an inappropriate platform for that cartridge and it is silly to try to pretend otherwise. I guess you could make a .223 into a 10lb double rifle but why? That would be just as ridiculous.

The cartridge's history means absolutely nothing. The intended purpose and desires of the shooter are all that matter. If you don't like it, that's fine; but your opinion is not the only one that matters.

Being from Oregon, I would expect you to understand the merits of having a lightweight rifle in the mountains. Hiking the back country in Alaska, or even just pursuing Elk in the Rockies, shaving a few pounds off your rifle can make a huge difference. And, if you know the rifle and your quarry well enough, you should only need one shot. If a single-shot rifle isn't good enough for dangerous game, I have no idea how humans ever survived westward expansion of North America during the 1800s, with all the bears, wolverines, wolves, big cats, and angry bison; or how dangerous game hunters ever came home alive from their African hunts with black powder rifles and muzzleloaders....

And, last time I checked, there still weren't wild Buffalo or Elephant in Alaska.

Nostalgia? Since when can we only use cartridges based on their nostalgic appeal and original intent? Again, we'd have a pretty big problem with .30-06... Owners would only be able to have original battle rifles, and proper 'nostalgic' use would require shooting at "Japs", Germans, and Koreans.
.45-70 would take a pretty big hit... Being limited to trap door, rolling block, and falling block rifles, with their primary targets being 'Indians' and Bison.
And, the list goes on...

An "inappropriate" platform to one man, is a perfect platform to another.
On this very forum, we have several owners of 10+ lb .22 LR falling block rifles, we have several members that have Weatherby rifles but only shoot substantially reduced loads in them, we have at least two members that own single-shot TC handguns in .444 Marlin and almost exclusively only shoot shot shells in them, we have several members with TC Encore handguns wearing 10-14" barrels in 7mm Rem Mag(!), we have a couple dozen owners of .50 GI 1911s, we have multiple owners of Coonan 1911s, we have a few dozen people that shoot "dangerous game" cartridges in rifles that weigh as little as 5 lbs, and we have a few hundred owners of Taurus Judges, S&W Governors, and Rossi Circuit Judges.

There are many members that think any one of those is a stupid idea, but the owners have a different opinion. For them, it fulfills a need that no other rifle/cartridge combination could compensate for in a satisfactory manner.

Nostalgia and a cartridge's classical use have very little in common with what it is actually capable of, or what a shooter may want to use it for.

If they get in over their head with excessive recoil, they either didn't do their homework or have poor technique.

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PHRED PHRED PHRED....
If the only personality on the show were Mr.Phred (Wifey reads this forum at times ) i wouldn't miss an episode... Otherwise... I watched 2 or 3 episodes back to back and got all of the show I ever need or want...

She could call me chopped liver chop suey and I would be okay with that... 'cuz she is such a great ambassador of the pro gun world...
(howzs that for a quick save of a train headed right off the tracks)...

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They can't show what really goes on every day up here.
I walked in on a garage sale, next to downtown Fairbanks
and they had ammo and a few guns among all the junk
furniture. The owner was handing out caribou jerky and
muktuk to everyone. Things get even stranger as you get
out of town.They also had an old float plane parked in the
backyard that they had pulled up out of the river. I wouldn't
want to live anywhere else.

__________________NOTICE: Persons attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot.

BY ORDER OF THE AUTHOR
Per G. G., Chief of Ordnance

"If you think it's wrong to kill someone who is about to kill you, you are too stupid to be allowed to vote"

An "inappropriate" platform to one man, is a perfect platform to another.
On this very forum, we have several owners of 10+ lb .22 LR falling block rifles, we have several members that have Weatherby rifles but only shoot substantially reduced loads in them, we have at least two members that own single-shot TC handguns in .444 Marlin and almost exclusively only shoot shot shells in them, we have several members with TC Encore handguns wearing 10-14" barrels in 7mm Rem Mag(!), we have a couple dozen owners of .50 GI 1911s, we have multiple owners of Coonan 1911s, we have a few dozen people that shoot "dangerous game" cartridges in rifles that weigh as little as 5 lbs, and we have a few hundred owners of Taurus Judges, S&W Governors, and Rossi Circuit Judges.

I see 3 guns that I or my wife shoots on that list.

__________________Shot placement is everything! I would rather take a round of 50BMG to the foot than a 22short to the base of the skull.

all 25 of my guns are 45/70 govt, 357 mag, 22 or 12 ga... I believe in keeping it simple

I have become a fan of the show. The characters are a hoot. Old man here really enjoys looking at Phred. They had another girl on who bought a rifle. She was so cute my knees got jelly shaky.
The guns are interesting but not insane fakes like the American Guns show.
I'm curious about their (proprietary?) .457WWM. They sell it in a take down lever job. One model is probably the legal minimum for length. It is a guide easy carry back up.
I wonder how it compares to 30-06, .300 mag., .338 win mag., etc. for grizzly stopping.

Their website used to show ballistic data on the 457wwg, haven't checked it though in a few years.

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Funny thing...was watching the repeat of the swear job episode, and my sister, who says she can monitor the amount of reloading I've gotten done based on the amount of "damns" says she intends to insitute that policy.

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Me: "Controlled burn?"
LadyFriend: "I forgot my Boy Scout turned into an infantry officer."

Ken was a very smart and colorful member here. It's a shame he got booted from the forum...

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I think that one of the notions common to the anti-gunner is the idea that being a victim is 'noble'; as if it is better to be noble in your suffering than disruptive in your own defense.

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