Been looking around and I see a few sites but the gun shops I've been to dont seem to carry them. ANy ideas?

Spetsnazos

02-19-2011, 12:41 AM

lol nevermind this thing is like $2k+

ugh :(

Penguin4091

02-19-2011, 12:45 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSL_%28rifle%29

You could get one of these. I have seen them at gun shows for around $899. They look the same but I think they are slightly different somehow.

Toast

02-19-2011, 1:01 AM

PSL is AK based and not as large as an SVD. It'll get you 95% of the fun at much less cost though.

JeffM

02-19-2011, 1:05 AM

PSLs are no longer being imported.

Penguin4091

02-19-2011, 1:25 AM

Isn't someone making them from kits still in the U.S. I never really looked into it I'm more of an AR guy.

joelukehart

02-19-2011, 1:41 AM

Dragunov/SVD's/Tigrs are on the banned list in CA. Move to a free state and watch gunbroker.com. I got my Romy PSL through Henderson Defense. Atlantic Firearms might still have them as well.

Penguin4091

02-19-2011, 1:50 AM

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct938.aspx

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct938.aspx

throw the skeleton stock on one of these and a bullet button and you're good to go.

*edit* here is the California legal version http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct957.aspx

nick

02-19-2011, 1:53 AM

An SVD/Norinco NDM-86 would cost you upwards of $4K.

That being said, I don't see SVD, Tigr, or Norinco NDM-86 on the Kasler list. I see Norinco 86 (all) on it, but if it's marked NDM-86, it ought to be fine.

You'll still need to take care of the thumbhole stock and flash hider, or lock the mag though.

nick

02-19-2011, 1:55 AM

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct938.aspx

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct938.aspx

throw the skeleton stock on one of these and a bullet button and you're good to go.

*edit* here is the California legal version http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct957.aspx

This is a PSL, not the same animal. It uses an AK action and stamped receiver (I believe, SVD has a milled receiver), and there're multiple other differences.

Penguin4091

02-19-2011, 1:58 AM

This is a PSL, not the same animal. It uses an AK action and stamped receiver (I believe, SVD has a milled receiver), and there're multiple other differences.

I know its not the same thing but its the closest we can get isn't it? I was under the impression that the dragunov's were on the ban list.

Merc1138

02-19-2011, 2:20 AM

I know its not the same thing but its the closest we can get isn't it? I was under the impression that the dragunov's were on the ban list.

They are on the ban list.

And while the PSL is the "closest we can get", it's still a different animal and should not be confused with a dragunov.

ElvenSoul

02-19-2011, 3:13 AM

Well you can turn a 20" Saiga 7.62x39 into a Tabuk...not a SVD but a lot of fun and cheaper to shoot...you won't feel the let down of a PSL.

MrPlink

02-19-2011, 4:27 AM

lol nevermind this thing is like $2k+

ugh :(

2k+ for a real SVD?

PM ME WHERE !
;)

god I wish....

C.W.M.V.

02-19-2011, 4:38 AM

Well you can turn a 20" Saiga 7.62x39 into a Tabuk...not a SVD but a lot of fun and cheaper to shoot...you won't feel the let down of a PSL.

Christ, I never though of that!
Tabuk is what 23-24 inch barrel? So 20 inch Saiga with correct FSB/FH should be about right, right? Then just yugo handguards and the stock...oh damn it.

offrdmania

02-19-2011, 7:13 AM

If you look hard enough you can find Tigers somewhat cheap, one just sold on ARFcom for 1500 and they are on the Broker all the time in the 2500 range for an unconverted Tigr. But then you will spend another 1000 to convert it from sporter into military spec.

jaustin612

02-19-2011, 7:39 AM

I've seen nmd-86s go for about 5 grand on gunbroker. I've only seen one or two adds ever for a no crap KBI imported Dragunov, asked about 12000 for it.

tigers can go from 2500 to 3500.

Too much money honestly.

2600fromAtari

02-19-2011, 8:12 AM

Not an SVD, but you get most of the looks for the PSL's price (+ some extra change). Should be about in a few months.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80849

Blitzburgh

02-19-2011, 9:19 AM

I wanted an SVD but instead opted for the PSL. Bought it from Atlantic a few years back and have just recently found out that they are not being imported anymore. Should have bought 2. (Why do I always realize that when it's to late?).

I have seen rebuild kits being sold for them, less receiver. So they can still be had at a decent price for those of you with tools and the skills to use them.

But for the most part it stays at home on range day. It's big, clunky, heavy, magazine changes with the Radlock are a pain, and jumps all over the place with every shot. Typical Russian/Romy weapon. It does pack a heck of a wallop being it's 54R and the "wow" factory at the range is high, but for the most part it's a job to shoot.

What's that old line about "If you've held your rifle down with your boot and used a hammer to fix it - it's Russian? (in this case Romy).

C.W.M.V.

02-20-2011, 9:15 AM

That's strange, cause mine is a pretty dang good shooter. I'm no good with optics, but with the irons I can hit pretty much whatever I aim at consistently. As far as the radlock, I just filled in the stock so its featureless.
My PSL is the only one that ALWAYS goes to the range!

TeckLancer

02-20-2011, 10:00 AM

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/tecklancer/2010-11-02_12-03-17_616.jpg i love mine shoots great very very accurate

darkest2000

02-20-2011, 11:07 AM

Dragunov/SVD's/Tigrs are on the banned list in CA. Move to a free state and watch gunbroker.com.

Wrong. Dragunovs, Tigers and Chinese NDMs are all off list. You just gotta cough up the dough for one of these.

The SVD's (left) influence can be seen in the Iraqi Al Kadesih (center) and Romanian PSL (right).

Here is the sight: http://www.snipercompany.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=91

Chad

berg

02-20-2011, 10:14 PM

Why are people saying they are on the "ban list"? That's completely false.

BTW there is someone making an SVD-like PSL that looks interesting.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80849

Click the link above

http://comblocarms.com/PIC1a.jpg

darkest2000

02-20-2011, 11:05 PM

Why are people saying they are on the "ban list"? That's completely false.

Well I guess it's a nice little secret for those in the know, keeps the already high price from getting higher due to sudden demand from CA buyers...

MrPlink

02-20-2011, 11:43 PM

Why are people saying they are on the "ban list"? That's completely false.

BTW there is someone making an SVD-like PSL that looks interesting.

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80849

Click the link above

http://comblocarms.com/PIC1a.jpg

hmmmm, "group Sub-moa from factory guaranteed." with an MSRP of only 750?
I usually dont trust statements like this, but if its true Im very interested.

C.W.M.V.

02-21-2011, 2:07 AM

I would take that with a few grains of salt. What ammo are they guaranteeing it with? There is soooooooo much 54R on the market these days.
regardless $750 isn't a bad price for any PSL lately. Id jump on it if I could.

MrPlink

02-21-2011, 2:16 AM

regardless $750 isn't a bad price for any PSL lately. Id jump on it if I could.
well, Id take the price AND the ETA with a grain of salt

jaustin612

02-21-2011, 6:59 AM

every psl I've owned has been about a solid 1.75- 2ish moa gun.

Granted, I was always shooting the crappy bulgarian milsurp ammo that everyone buys, so maybe with some really nice handloads...

motorhead

02-21-2011, 9:57 AM

take out a second for a real one. only 100 or so were imported before the door slammed shut. TIGR or NDM are the closest knockoffs, both also big bucks but nothing like a real drag.
assault weapons of ohio is building m-76's on the remaining stock of ORF recievers.
http://www.assaultweaponsofohiollc.com/

darkest2000

02-21-2011, 2:34 PM

take out a second for a real one. only 100 or so were imported before the door slammed shut. TIGR or NDM are the closest knockoffs, both also big bucks but nothing like a real drag.
assault weapons of ohio is building m-76's on the remaining stock of ORF recievers.
http://www.assaultweaponsofohiollc.com/

The Chinese NDM-86 is the closest to the original 60's military SVD one can buy. From the receiver lightening cuts, to full length barrels, bayonet lugs and flash hiders, to the military issue scope and laminated wood furniture.

Typical Tigrs with their sporting iron sights, cheesy furniture and shortened barrel don't even come close to being a real SVD, aside from being Russian made. IMO.

Even the KBI imported SVDs have the post 1993 slab side receivers, which differs from the original SVDs from the 60's era.

Also for what it's worth, real Russian SVDs are C&R eligible, so those that have a C&R license can have one shipped to their house directly!