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anyone else having Batman the Animated series flashbacks from the "Legends of the Dark Night" episode and hearing Michael Ironsides voice when u look at that figure? lol...

that episode is based of the DKR this figure comes from so i imagine it would

Originally Posted by Brian Ozone

I have seen it all. But we get screwed again. That's all my point is.

Originally Posted by Brian Ozone

I know. But still that's a $25.00 motuc figure at the end of the day. I'm glad they are cheating. Make no mistake I'm not complaining at it's price. Just saying that's a $25.00 motuc figure.

I do hope to get a Superman, Robin, and a Joker figure as well. Then it would really make it speacil.

No its a DCU figure made in larger numbers, If you buy a can of soda for dollar at a store that has a six pack of soda for 5 you wouldn't say "hey this can should be 83 cents!". the larger the order the cheaper the price, the cheaper they pay to make the cheaper they charge us a consumers.

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Originally Posted by Big Papa

That horrible constipated face on the MOTUC Batman is based on the art work for the Dark Knight Returns, a series originally published in 1986 written and drawn by some guy named Frank Miller.......Probably one of if not the greatest comic series ever published.

I'm beyond amazed at the number of people in this thread the haven't read The Dark Knight Returns...

"Ugly face..."
"Too big..."

I pity your lack of great-comic reading!!

Next, I'm going to find out that nobody has ever read Watchmen...

Originally Posted by Megalodon

What is a Watchman???

Alot of people don't read anymore that's sad...

Originally Posted by Piccolo Daimaoh

Have you guys even read the Dark Knight Returns? He may not have been that ripped but he was definitely that big. Batman was a big, hulking demon in the Dark Knight Returns. Big Country is right, maybe the most important Batman story in the last 30 years and we have people in a Batman thread who have never read it. Yet they feel compelled to let us know how little they know about Batman by dissing how he looks. Boggles the mind.

Originally Posted by musclor

Hands down, the best Batman GN ever published. Excelltent story.

Originally Posted by musclor

Absolutely fantastic stories. Well worth borrowing them from the local library. Well worth buying them in my opinion, but definitely check them out. They are both in my top five graphic novels...

Originally Posted by Lewd_Squirrel

Oh, & I agree with Piccolo, both Lh & DV are GREAT reads, so is the other Batman comic, by them, can't remember what it's called, atm, but I have it, somewhere.

Originally Posted by Big Country

We're all geeks here. And for a geek to have not read THE book that changed comics as a whole is like a preacher saying "Book of Revelation? What's that???"!!! Two comics that did more to change the medium than any other works...pity that they could have been missed out on! They should be owned by everyone that can afford it!

Originally Posted by Piccolo Daimaoh

Absolutely. The first time I read TDKR it blew my mind. It came out in an era when most Batman media was Adam West and Super Friends. It made you wonder how far you could go with a comic book. And to have never read Dark Knight Returns? You'd think after seeing Burton's Batman in 1989 people would have rushed in droves to read it. It's in libraries now for crying in the sand. Saying in defense that this is a He-Man forum really paints a bad picture of He-Man fans. Like we have no other interests. I'm a big MOTU fan but I seem to be able to get out from under my rock once in a while.

Originally Posted by Spyder121

All right... as many have pointed out, Batman's face sculpt is based on Miller's drawings, hence the look. But I'm astounded at how many people on here have not read "The Dark Knight, Returns." Don't get me wrong. Not everything Miller writes is gold. However, a few folks on here seem to qualify all of his work in a less-than-stellar light without ever reading his earlier good stories. "The Dark Knight Returns" is outstanding, as well as "Batman: Year One."

Originally Posted by Robzy

Well, it is a MOTU forum, not a Batman site

I am an unrepentant non-DC and only casual MOTU fan, but even I bought and read The Dark Knight Returns. I heard that it was a masterpiece and bought it to see what the hype was all about. I got to say it was well deserved. I'm one of the last individuals to recommend a DC book but this one is worth at least a read if not a purchase.

As for the figures, as much as I like the story, I don't really feel the need to own the figure. Great for those that want one but it's not for me.

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I am an unrepentant non-DC and only casual MOTU fan, but even I bought and read The Dark Knight Returns. I heard that it was a masterpiece and bought it to see what the hype was all about. I got to say it was well deserved. I'm one the last individuals to recommend a DC book but this one is worth at least a read if not a purchase.

As for the figures, as much as I like the story, I don't really feel the need to own the figure. Great for those that want one but it's not for me..

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OK, so they're making a Dark Knight Returns Batman with a MOTUC buck. OK, Now I want a Dark Knight Returns Superman! with the same use of the MOTUC buck!

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I totally understand economics, supply and demand. I did go to collage.

Ok. I understand it's a dcuc figure higher production lower cost. But it's a motuc buck that would cost the motuc fan $25.00. That's all I'm saying.

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But so would a motuc figure. Find out how many of these are made vs. a motuc figure being made. Hey maybe the production of the motuc is more at a higher cost. I don't know and I know you don't. Cause Mattel dosent kiss and tell. But they already have more then half of this batman finished using motuc parts. So yea that right there can help the cost being lower.

Dude I'm not fighting with you. Im saying my piece and that's the end of my end. You have the right to disagree and please do so. It's your god given right.

But it's still a motuc figure. Buck. Toy. What ever you want to call it.

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So if this can happen, why can't DC budget money or resources be diverted to MOTUC? If DC utilizes these parts then Mattel Management should be finding more ways to do this and justify MOTUC's continued existence. I at first didn't think it was the same until I looked really close and the musculature in the legs and shoulders are identical. I wish they would do more characters in this manner as well.

But so would a motuc figure. Find out how many of these are made vs. a motuc figure being made. Hey maybe the production of the motuc is more at a higher cost. I don't know and I know you don't. Cause Mattel dosent kiss and tell. But they already have more then half of this batman finished using motuc parts. So yea that right there can help the cost being lower.

Dude I'm not fighting with you. Im saying my piece and that's the end of my end. You have the right to disagree and please do so. It's your god given right.

But it's still a motuc figure. Buck. Toy. What ever you want to call it.

There is opinion and then there is the hard reality of production. Factories charge less the more figures are ordered to produce. A figure with higher production numbers is cheaper then one with lower production numbers. Mattel has clearly said many times that the MOTUC figures are their lowest produced figures. So it is safe to assume that a Batman figure sold in stores across the nation has a much larger production number. Therefore they are cheaper.

I like the Dark Knight Returns version, but what about Kingdom Come, Flashpoint, Vampire Batman, and Batman Inc Batman?? Then again, forget the Batmen, I just want my Ras'al Ghul and Talia!!!!! That is all I ask. Give me those two and I will buy every version of Batman Mattel wants to release, even the Adam Fake version.

Nothing would make me happier than to have a super-articulated, 4HM-sculpted Kingdom Come Batman and Bat Knight (possibly a CnC figure?). Why this was never done in the six years we've had the DCSH/DCUC line, I have no idea. Instead we got Sinestro Corps Batman.

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But so would a motuc figure. Find out how many of these are made vs. a motuc figure being made. Hey maybe the production of the motuc is more at a higher cost. I don't know and I know you don't. Cause Mattel dosent kiss and tell. But they already have more then half of this batman finished using motuc parts. So yea that right there can help the cost being lower.

Dude I'm not fighting with you. Im saying my piece and that's the end of my end. You have the right to disagree and please do so. It's your god given right.

But it's still a motuc figure. Buck. Toy. What ever you want to call it.

You are arguing, actually.

"I think that just maybe all of the laws of production and supply and demand cease to exist on the doorstep of the factory in Japan where the MOTUC figures are produces and there, they're produced even more than a retail DC figure for MORE than the DC figure."

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Originally Posted by hauke

There is opinion and then there is the hard reality of production. Factories charge less the more figures are ordered to produce. A figure with higher production numbers is cheaper then one with lower production numbers. Mattel has clearly said many times that the MOTUC figures are their lowest produced figures. So it is safe to assume that a Batman figure sold in stores across the nation has a much larger production number. Therefore they are cheaper.

So if this can happen, why can't DC budget money or resources be diverted to MOTUC? If DC utilizes these parts then Mattel Management should be finding more ways to do this and justify MOTUC's continued existence. I at first didn't think it was the same until I looked really close and the musculature in the legs and shoulders are identical. I wish they would do more characters in this manner as well.

I doubt they would but how do you know that didn't happen? plus DC already gave MOTUC retail shelf time with the two packs (they were DC Universe excluisves, thats how they made it to shops) seems to me Motu owes the DC department more then one buck or a bird