I don't want to start a poll yet, but I'm wondering what you guys think about the patch adjuster.
I like the function but I find it really annoying that you can't lock modules when you use it
This makes it almost impossible to use it without destroying a diy-circuit.

Do you think we also should have an "exclude from patch adjuster" like we have the
"exclude from mutation" option? I think this would make the patch adjuster even more usefull.

Surely assigning a patch adjuster control to a knob or MIDI CC and then excluding the controls you don't want to change is not a million miles away from what you can easily do already - i.e. just assign all attack times (or timbre, mod rate or whatever) controls to a knob?

Yeah, sure. But its way more usable, and the idea for the feature is to let people tweak existing patches and not look for all the attack knobs.

The Nord Modular is not easy for all of us. And also, each of us is very different as a nord user, and not all of us can understand each other's patches, so this feature has merit. Me included.

It is a 10 minute, 30 lines of code feature to write. (I'm guessing, as a former VB6/C# GUI developer)

Now, I wish you could create your own group. The ones they have are nice, but I wish to be more specific about which types of controls to include. This is more a vertical way of tweaking, a neat concept. Nice one, Clavia.

I just created a prf2 in 43 minutes (from scratch, with an idea of what I wanted, but this is not what happened in the end). That's a new record! It's called NAMM_DZ.

Next one will include a neat idea I have been thinking about. New ideas, all the time. Back to patching.
/Dasz

Hmm. Curious as to why they didn't include this feature in 1.4 given that it's evidently so easy to implement. It's not like they didn't think of it because the manual makes specific mention of the fact that it's not an available feature!

My estimate is in VB6/C#. You know, go through a collection of modules, find all the commonly named parameters. Add a pointer to each unique one to a collection of collections (one per type of parameter). Each time a module is added or removed it is added and removed from this 2d collection. Then it is a matter of assigning all the common parameters to a morph.

I would just suggest having an option on the patch adjuster added to the editor. You right-click on a patch adjuster knob and you have the option of assigning it to a morph group.

I find it useful and convenient that page E on the front panel is usually used for effects. I can often quickly adjust the reverb parameters, even on patches that are otherwise unknown to me if the patcher respects this convention.

It's usually really hard to adjust some of the other things that the patch adjuster identifies. I'd love to have the attack/release times brought to the front panel on many polyphonic keyboard style patches. Just jumping to Page C rarely does the job as there are usually several EGs in the patch. Oh, happy happy joy joy indeed.

I would think the code is small, but for having it built in to the Nord, requires a bit more patience and care in coding....memory limits, performance issues, etc.

I think howard is right though, it wouldn't be a difficult request for the editor. The question though, is how is this handled in the Nord itself? Do you use Morphs? Because that would break some patches (s would auto-assigning MIDI controls to many knobs). Do you have this almost as a second set of morphs? That might blow up the bandwidth that exists for all the processors to communicate with each other and how the system was originally designed.

I'd suggest some combination...a quick key stroke puts the keyboard in "patch adjust" mode, which is much like the "global" mode for performances...something that uses the front panel, but is a seperate mode. THough if it is up to the user to assign what knob groups mean what, is that stored with the patch, or as a system setting (so YOU always get to see the patch through your own perspective). The first method sounds alot like morphs, but less manual.

I don't think it requires a change on the G2 at all. My suggestion is just to make it convenient to assign these control to a morph group. You's have to edit any patches you'd want to use it with._________________--Howard
my music and other stuff

I just discovered this thing after having had the G2 for years now (I'm not a manual reader)

if you have a graphics tablet like a wacom etc. (which I use all the time for patching - much more versatile than a mouse) you can really play with it - alas you need the patch window open so it might look a bit email check onstage but you can give the knobs a good wanking that way with great results (especially with the timbre knob - sounds positively sick!)

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