Since when did one's ethnicity mean you had to be expert at everything in that society? It's the 24th century for fuck's sake. How many of them, d'you think could fly fish, imitate barn owls or woodpeckers to fool the authentic bird, run a red light without causing a pile-up or get served at a 6 deep bar 2 minutes before the bell?

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They are all pathetic and can't do anything thanks to replicators, holodecks, transporters and too much evolved humanity for their own good.

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They can explore space and have created a society where there is no oppression, no poverty, no starvation and no greed. A lot of good things accomplished compared to 21th century pathetic humans.

I think there were some visuals which would point them to South America but I don't recall what (other then the definitely not North American foliage). Which makes the rubbing together with two sticks thing even more dumb as that is not a South American stereotype. I think it ended up a grab bag of cliches to which the word indian was attached.

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"Tattoo" places Chakotay's heritage firmly in Central America.

Which is part of North America.

Which has a subtropical climate.

Where there are palm trees & rubber plants.

Hell, there are even native palm trees in California, which is not tropical or subtropical.

Meanwhile, I'll let my Mayan friends know that they aren't real Indians because Australians don't think they are and therefore they are not. They're really Spaniards. Guy decreed that, even though it's painfully obvious that he has no clue as to the demographics of Mexico, Central & South America.

You remember Cortez? I didn't say that South American Indians ain't Indians, I said that the conquistadors who got off the boat from Spain 500 years ago to rape and pillage south America are not Indians nor are their descendants as indigenous as they claim they are after ONLY 500 years.

If your beef is "Rob claimed" well then that's just because whatever he said off camera as a private citizen is not canon, because whatever "Rob claims" the writer/producers could have made an episode that contradicted his claims at any point in the series run.

If Rob wanted to do more than "claim" then he should have written an episode about Chakotay like Bob did about the Doctor. It's not impossible to be heard when you're that close to the heart of the matter.

I checked with Google on Tropical plants and the Rubber tree. Outside of a greenhouse the website I breezed through claimed that they weren't native to or happy if some idiot tries to plant them in North America.

You remember Cortez? I didn't say that South American Indians ain't Indians, I said that the conquistadors who got off the boat from Spain 500 years ago to rape and pillage south America are not Indians nor are their descendants as indigenous as they claim they are after ONLY 500 years.

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Most indigenous in the Americas have some degree of white ancestry.

So, since you're making yourself the arbiter of this, how would you define an Indian? Is it by bloodline? By being raised in that culture?

By your comments, I'm not indigenous--even though I am recognized as such by both the US government & my tribal government.

Sorry, dude. You do not have the right to determine that for someone else, simply because they don't fit your romantic stereotypical notions.