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I really believe Fed would like another crack at Nadal on Clay. The problem I feel he has is he's unsure if his knee will hold up on it, and given that he hasn't played on the stuff since 2016, and even then was only playing sparsely due to back trouble, to really get flowing on it he'll need to play a full clay court swing, as in 4-5 tournaments in the space of 10-12 weeks. That runs the risk of him being... less than 100% come the grass court swing. Seems to me that Fed wagers he could do a full season playing a lot of matches, or he could do another 2-4 years playing almost part time and come out with more titles and overall success.

The problem with that is that Fed needs to win most of the tournaments he enters because it's title or bust at this stage, so you could say his Sunshine swing this year was a failure given that he left with no titles from either masters. But he knows that, and he's okay with it I guess, which is why I would expect him to sweep the grass season.

In short, I don't think being afraid of losing to Nadal is a primary factor. I feel like it just takes up so much energy and doesn't give him a slot of about 3 months to just disengage from the game for a while to play it, coupled with the injury risk and frankly I'd be surprised if Fed ever steps foot on the surface again.
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Glad the least interesting part of the season is over with honestly. On both circuits, clay court tennis is such a grind to watch and neither the men's or women's tournaments were very interesting towards the end, I think my highlight was either Schwartzman v Anderson or Kasatkina v Wozniaki of all things.

I really believe Fed would like another crack at Nadal on Clay. The problem I feel he has is he's unsure if his knee will hold up on it, and given that he hasn't played on the stuff since 2016, and even then was only playing sparsely due to back trouble, to really get flowing on it he'll need to play a full clay court swing, as in 4-5 tournaments in the space of 10-12 weeks. That runs the risk of him being... less than 100% come the grass court swing. Seems to me that Fed wagers he could do a full season playing a lot of matches, or he could do another 2-4 years playing almost part time and come out with more titles and overall success.

The problem with that is that Fed needs to win most of the tournaments he enters because it's title or bust at this stage, so you could say his Sunshine swing this year was a failure given that he left with no titles from either masters. But he knows that, and he's okay with it I guess, which is why I would expect him to sweep the grass season.

In short, I don't think being afraid of losing to Nadal is a primary factor. I feel like it just takes up so much energy and doesn't give him a slot of about 3 months to just disengage from the game for a while to play it, coupled with the injury risk and frankly I'd be surprised if Fed ever steps foot on the surface again.
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Glad the least interesting part of the season is over with honestly. On both circuits, clay court tennis is such a grind to watch and neither the men's or women's tournaments were very interesting towards the end, I think my highlight was either Schwartzman v Anderson or Kasatkina v Wozniaki of all things.

He isnt afraid of losing, he knows his odds of winning though are so abysmally low that the risk/reward is awful. I mean prerty much anyones chances of beating nadal in the fo are like nonexistant unless he is hurt.

Best train for grass and hardcourt where he has been beating nadal lately. He is old now after all

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Federer is odds on for Wimby which isnt surprising. Nadal is second which also isnt that suprising. Whats kind of surprising is that the bookies favor Djokovic as the third most likely to win it.

I'm a little surprised Nadal is second favourite. He hasn't had a good tournament since reaching the final in 2011 (lost to Rosol, Darcis, Kygrios, Brown and Müller, didn't play it in 2016). If he got to the Semis I'd be pretty shocked tbh.

He really looked his age in this final though, he no longer seems unbeatable as he used to. If Thiem hadn't missed so much who knows what may have happened. Nadal himself knows that time is running out, that's why he cried in the trophy ceremony. I hope he can still win the FO once or twice more before retiring.

Last 6 GS now have been won by Fed and Nadal, 3 for eachsuccessively (AO 17 Fed, RG 17 Nadal, Wim 17 Fed, USO 17 Nadal, AO 18 Fed and finally this one). I see this streak continuing with this Wimbledon, and Fed winning a 21st GS. We'll see how fit he is with the first grass tournaments he'll be playing in I guess.

He really looked his age in this final though, he no longer seems unbeatable as he used to. If Thiem hadn't missed so much who knows what may have happened. Nadal himself knows that time is running out, that's why he cried in the trophy ceremony. I hope he can still win the FO once or twice more before retiring.

Tbh 80 percent nadal can still squash thiem as evidenced here. Only chance thiem has is if nadal is hurt. Think nadal can easily win many more if he stays healthy.

Yeah, but when you're that old athletes can age overnight and become a shadow of themselves, more risk of injury, etc. He can win is he keeps staying relatively healthy, but will he?

My guess is he'll take like 2 more RG, which would be enormous (well winning 11 times is already more than spectacular, really).

Maybe one USO more but I'm ify on that one, he had quite an easy run last year, Fed was out of form. Now Djoko seems to be coming back to some sort of form, we'll see where Murray's at soon. FOs are his best chances of winning yet some GS titles.