Wednesday, November 21, 2012

Logoshad a busy booth at SBL showing off their new Logos 5 running on a variety of platforms. I had a couple questions about the new collections and an export option, and I'm waiting to hear back from them. Specifically,

I was wondering about their suggested replacement in Logos 5 for the "Original Languages" library in Logos 4. The new collections advertised on the web site don't have anything comparable. OTOH, the Logos display did include the new Verbum libraries. "Verbum is a cross-platform Catholic library." ("Catholic" here means Roman Catholic.) The "Scripture Study" looks close, but it lists at $890.

I am trying to figure out how to export a condensed list of Bible references returned by a search. (I.e., I want something like "Mt 15:32; 20:34, 36; Mk 1:41, 6:34; Lk 10:37") Logos returns those verses but with their text. The closest I can get is a 'compact passage list,' but that still lists each reference in a separate line that can't be exported (as far as I can tell). My search on the Logos forums indicates that I'm not alone in looking for this option.

I did find out that one of the resources that was simply listed in the original list of new material--Lexham Hebrew Septuagint Reverse Interlinear: H.B. Swete Edition--is still coming. I.e., you get the license for it now, and the content will be available later. That will be interesting. I'm guessing that it is basically is using Tov's Hebrew-Greek Parallel Aligned Text and then using Logos' new way of incorporating reverse interlinears as applied to the Septuagint text. This will be very helpful.

Logos has now also also made the "minimal crossgrade" available for current Logos users. Its cost depends on what collection you are crossgrading. A crossgrade, as the Logos site says:

A bare-bones crossgrade to Logos 5. The Minimal Crossgrade includes all the new Logos 5 features and datasets, plus a small collection of resources that equip you to use them.

UPDATE: In the comments, Mark Barnes corrects the information about cross-/up-grading. He states:

The seven core datasets are included in the Core Datasets module, which costs $70. The minimal crossgrade module includes all ten datasets, plus a number of other resources and costs $160.

The core datasets are:

Bible Facts:Events

Referent Data

Phrase Concordance

Preaching Themes

Reported Speech

Thematic Outlines

Timeline

You will need todo the minimal crossgrade of your Logos 4 to also get the Bible Sense Lexicon and Clause Search functionality and other features. The free Logos 5 engine upgrade (which would not include any of the new datasets) will likely be released in the first quarter of 2013.

5 comments:

I stopped by the Logos booth and was inquiring about version 5 upgrade options also. Apparently there is a "biblical languages" pack that is the version 5 equivalent of the older "original languages" pack. But, it's not being advertised on the website. You have to call in to order it.

Regarding "I am trying to figure out how to export a condensed list of Bible references returned by a search. (I.e., I want something like "Mt 15:32; 20:34, 36; Mk 1:41, 6:34; Lk 10:37") " - this is easy to do in Logos 5.

Go to Documents/Passage List, and create one that has your desired list of scripture references. Click on "Compact" in the upper right corner to get just a list of the verses without text. The click the Blue Ribbon in the upper left corner of the pane, click Print/Export, and you will see the list of verses visuall ypresented along with many options (down the right hand side) to print/save/export them to various formats.

@Dominick: Thanks, but that still just gives me the list of verses with each reference on a single line. E.g., I just did a Bible search of the NRSV for "Jesus AFTER Christ." I can create the Passage List, then do the Print/Export, but I get:Acts 24:24Romans 3:24Romans 6:3Romans 6:11Romans 6:23... for all 84 hits.What I want is: Acts 24:24; Romans 3:24; 6:3, 11, 23; ...(Further, you can't even create a Passage List using the Basic or Clause search.)

Sorry to keep on about the LXX ;-), but it's worth mentioning that Logos already has an LXX Greek/Hebrew reverse interlinear - the Logos LXX with Morphology. This uses Rahlf's, rather than Swete, so is probably more useful. Click the display menu in the resource to turn the interlinear lines on or off.

You've also misunderstood the minimum crossgrade options. The seven core datasets are included in the Core Datasets module, which costs $70. The minimal crossgrade module includes all ten datasets, plus a number of other resources and costs $160. That means you don't need to upgrade to get Bible Sense Lexicon and Clause search, the crossgrade will be sufficient.

They have the tov database already. Their interlinears are created in house. I certainly hope Logos creates the kind of search ability and functionality that the MT/LXX parallel database has in Accordance