"Who is going to save our Church? Not our bishops, not our priests and religious. It is up to you, the people. You have the minds, the eyes, the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that your priests act like priests, your bishops, like bishops, and your religious act like religious." - Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, 1972

Tuesday, August 11, 2015

ALL ROADS LEAD TO ADRIAN

"On Thursday, July 9th I talked to him (Apuron) about why renaming the chapel would be problematic. He reassured me that he understood the issue and that it is not his intention to rename the chapel. The archbishop told me that he had talked to Fr. Adrian about this problem but for some reason it was not immediately resolved. He assured me that it would be corrected."

I then noted two problems:

1. Apuron said it was "not his intention to rename the chapel", though on July 5, Apuron published the following in the U Matuna:

In virtue of canon 1223 of the Code of Canon Law and by reason of my authority as Archbishop of Agaña, I hereby erect the PÅLE’ JESUS BAZA DUEÑAS ORATORY at the Father Dueñas Memorial School in Ta’i, Mangilao....This instrument revokes the previous decree, Protocol Number 2014-022, formerly establishing the ‘Boys Chapel’.

2. Apuron "talked to Fr. Adrian about this problem but for some reason it was not immediately resolved."

Both of these problems point to a single red flag: APURON IS NOT IN CHARGE.

Now, we already know this, but most of us are still scratching our heads over why Apuron would so docilely let Adrian run things - even forcing Apuron to sign a decree against his will as evidenced by the above!

Up till now, I have allowed for two possibilities: 1) Apuron is mentally ill; 2) Gennarini and Pius are pulling all the strings and Adrian is their puppet.

However, I have never really believed that Apuron was mentally ill (I only permitted that out of charity), and the Gennarini-Pius puppet master scenario, while true, did not seem complete.

Why?

Adrian (for a variety of reasons including his history) is vicious and vindictive. The docile puppet role did not quite fit him. He seems to be much more in charge.

But because I could not figure out how Adrian could get Apuron to obey him like a well-trained dog (sorry if you're offended by that, but what else can we surmise when Apuron says it was "not his intention" yet he signs a decree with that exact intention), I had to figure that Adrian's power over Apuron came from his alliance with Gennarini and Pius, two people we know that Apuron submits to.

However, I received a bit of intel a couple weeks ago that makes the pieces fit better. And it also sheds more light on Apuron's threat to John Toves.

As I've share before, threatening Toves makes no sense. He was already written off as a nut case; the media had stopped paying attention to him; and it was quite clear that no "victim" was going to come forward.

So why the threat to Toves?

Well, let's back up to the intel I received.

The intel suggests (alleges, actually) that Adrian has the "dirt" on Apuron. And being that Apuron is "short," Adrian formed an alliance with Gennarini and Pius and used the "dirt" to shove Apuron out of the way so Adrian could set himself up as the next bishop - permitting the NCW to remain in power on Guam for a very long time.

In fact, the intel suggests even more. It suggests that Adrian's "dirt" on Apuron was used to blackmail Apuron into permitting the NCW to come to Guam and set up shop in the first place.

It was a perfect storm.

The NCW needed a bishop they could control in order to manufacture their presbyters which they could peddle to bishops worldwide in order to buy influence. Adrian - as per the intel - with his "dirt" on Apuron, offered Guam - which had the added benefit of a mostly unquestioning and non-confrontational laity who were conditioned to welcoming foreign clergy and coughing up big bucks.

The informant believes that Apuron's passing over Adrian but raising two of his contemporaries (Quitugua the VG and Benavente) to the "rank" of Monsignor, was Apuron's way of getting back at Adrian.

As we know, Adrian soon left Guam for a multi-year hiatus under the guise of going "on mission". However, the fact that Adrian was immediately appointed to the position of Chancellor upon his return, points to the continuation of the original Gennarini-Pius-Adrian scheme to sideline Apuron and run things through Adrian, setting him up to be the next bishop so that the NCW could continue unabated.

This explains why Apuron is simply a rubber stamp for Adrian's ugly designs. All roads lead to Adrian. And Apuron's amazing admission that he did not intend to sign the decree changing the name of the FD chapel, and that he would have to check with Adrian tells us all we need to know.

But back to Toves.

Though it makes no sense for Apuron to try to legally shut Toves up, it makes complete sense for Adrian to do it. And just as we now know that Apuron did not author the decree to change the name of the chapel and that Adrian did, we can be just as sure that Apuron did not order the threat on Toves...and that Adrian did.

But NOT to shut Toves up. It was to shut Apuron up.

Adrian knows that Apuron does not want to be deposed. Adrian also knows that John Toves is the last person who will be shut up by a threat. The idea was to "get the dog barking" loud enough again so that Apuron would stay in his hole where he would be made to continue to sign the letters and decrees Adrian obviously (and now prove-ably) writes.

Toves has released a letter telling Apuron to come and get him and has also continued his allegations via You Tube and his Facebook page. He apparently also intends to make the allegations in writing complete with names and send copies to the media.

Thus Adrian - with Toves' help - has Apuron exactly where he wants him: checkmate.

If Apuron proceeds with legal action against Toves, Apuron will be deposed and he knows he can't let that happen. If he does nothing - now that he has threatened action - then he will be seen as a coward or even guilty.

There are those who believe I make too many assumptions. However, all my "assumptions" have turned out to be proved true.

In the Fr. Paul case, I had "assumed" that there was an ulterior motive for his removal. This was proved true when we found out that Apuron had permitted the same man he accused of being a danger to Fr. Paul's parish to work in the same parish in the same capacity 13 years earlier.

In the Msgr. James case, I had "assumed" an ulterior motive and I was proved correct when all of the allegations against Msgr. James were refuted by financial professionals and the archbishop admitted (privately) that he did not know if the allegations were true.

In the RMS scam, long before the secretly recorded deed was discovered, I filled this blog with "assumptions" about the scam which of course were proved true when the deed was discovered and an opinion of counsel on the legal status of the property was obtained.

In the Aaron Quitugua saga I had "assumed" that there was an ulterior motive for not permitting Aaron to study at a legitimate diocesan seminary. My assumption was proved true when it was discovered that - in the words of Adrian - "In the Archdiocese of Agana, the diocesan priesthood is no more. There is only the Neocatechumenal Way."

In the FD chapel renaming scam, I told Fr. Jeff point blank that he had been lied to. Fr. Jeff then told me I make too many assumptions. I don't fault Fr. Jeff for that. By nature he wants to think the best of everyone. But to this day, the promised "fix" for the name of the FD chapel has never materialized, despite Adrian telling Fr. Jeff that it would be.

Shall I go on?

All roads lead to Adrian. Let's make sure all eyes lead to him too.

P.P.S

This also explains why Apuron appears clueless whenever he is asked about the division he is causing, and why he continues to blame Rome for not being able to do anything. He really can't do anything, but it's not because of Rome.

58 comments:

Adrian has always been an evil man with his own agenda. But Apuron was told to get rid of Adrian and the VG - replace them with trustworthy advisors. He failed to do so, and so the evil saga of Adrian the Evil Puppeteer continues. Everyone suspected for a long time that Adrian knew something and was using it to his advantage. If this deceitful, scheming man could outright lie to the Nuncio and the Apostolic Delegation, then nothing will stop him from doing further harm to anyone. He wants to wear that mitre and will do anything and everything to get it. He takes advantage of that "white collar". Beware Archbishop. Your right hand man is the cause of your downfall.

If the NCW has manipulated, exploited, threatened and pushed Apuron aside, then why does he continue to sing the praises of the "Way?" Except for money and trips to Kiko's place in Israel I don't see what he gets out of it. Wouldn't just being left a powerless figurehead be humiliating and painful?

How does a conniver like adrian ever become a priest? We are done for if he succeeds the arch. I always suspected someone had the goods on the arch to make him bend to the NCW will. What an insidious group the leaders of the NCW are! Thank you, Tim, for keeping us informed. Eileen Benavente-Blas

Cristobal is NOT clever enough to have thought up this conspiracy. Not nearly. Apuron not the only puppet here. The arrow points somewhere else. Apuron and Cristobal dummies at best. Being seriously controlled every step of the way. And Rome just watching it play out. And Rome very much supporting NCW. Sad, sad, sad.

Well, then, we best be looking at Plan C (exposing Cristobal for what he truly is) and getting ALL the goods on him and laying it out for all to see. Surely someone knows/has pics...for sure, for sure! Otherwise, our Catholicism passed onto us by our sainas will be lost forever should Cristobal succeed AAA. Teneki måkpo' Guam! Biba Katoliku!

@anon 11:36 : no one can take your Catholicism away from you except by your allowing it. the saints and martyrs through the ages have taught us as much. it's still august 10th here where i'm at, the feast of st lawrence. he allowed no one to take the faith away from him. pray that we all have the courage to do the same. fortes in fide.

During Adrian's high school days at FD, he was always picked on by his classmates. I recall those days when they would tease him behind his back.

Now that Adrian is a priest, he is taking advantage of his position and the situation to advance himself to higher chair! I personally think that Adrian is doing all this to get back at all the prople that made fun of him during the yesteryears!

I don't know this adrian but he appears to be unfit as a spiritual leader. His ambitions seem more secular than spiritual. If he is the role model for the RMS seminarians more bad things will result.Eileen Benavente-Blas

Could it be that since Toves and Adrian knew each other during their seminary days, Adrian also knows the details about the allegations brought out by Toves against Apuron? Didn't Toves state at one point that the other seminarians knew about the accusation? Could this be the dirt Adrian is using to blackmail Apuron? If so, Adrian really needs Toves to shut up about Apuron because if Toves exposes Apuron, then Adrian can no longer use this dirt for his blackmail scheme. So am I even close Tim, or way way off?

Adrian most definitely knows it. In fact, it's hard to find someone in the clergy who doesn't know it. In fact the hardest thing for me is to accept how much everyone seems to know about everything but don't want to say anything. Reminds me of the MAD policy on the Cold War: Mutually Assured Destruction. Nobody talks because everybody has something on everybody. Pretty frustrating. If I was getting paid to do this is have quit long ago.

Anonymous 5:16 pm and Tim, So why would Adrian pressure Apuron to have his lawyer threaten Toves? Because if there is a court case and all is revealed, then what would Adrian have to hold over Apuron then? I would think Adrian would want Toves to keep quiet so Adrian could keep holding the threat of exposure over Apuron as a backup plan. And wouldn't things come out about Adrian also?

1. Adrian did not need to pressure Apuron. He just made Apuron sign the letter to the attorney.2. There's not going to be a court case because there was no intention to follow through.3. The idea was to checkmate Apuron with Toves' help.

now we know who Diana is!!! lol omg she is a man.... lol Adrian you sly dog..... do you dress the part also??? omg I can't wait to let my neo friend know their leader is a (her) in the virtual space he's probably scared to come out of the closet afraid apuron would have some dirt on him... Adrian no wonder why you look so beautiful when yor mad... you have the hormones of Marilyn Manroe... oh well atleast we know now when Adrian is upset give him some chocolate, lol it's that time of the month. aye Adrian.

I received a comment saying that Tim Rohr did refute my statement. Apparently, the anonymous commenter above copied and pasted only a part of Tim Rohr's statement. Tim Rohr further stated on his blog:

"As for Apuron putting in the NCW after Cottman pounded her fist on the table, he certainly could have. But Apuron doesn't call the shots in the Archdiocese. Gennarini and Pius do. And they are much smarter than Apuron. They know they have to sneak in the NCW lest we detect their evil intent."

My response to this is........OH REALLY?? If it was Father Pius and Gennarini who call all the shots, then whose decision was it to put Father Bien (a "non-Neo" priest) to replace Father Paul on July 17th, which is the very next day AFTER Father Paul was removed????????

If the goal was to install the NCW into the Dededo parish, and Father Pius and Gennarini call all the shots as Tim Rohr claimed, then why didn't they take the opportunity to replace Father Paul with an RMS priest? That would have been the smart move. In fact, that would have been the golden opportunity to "sneak in the NCW."

well I tried to comment but I guess the ncw can't handle the truth

the word (SNEAK) is exactly what they did of course they didn't take the opportunity at first because it would have been an obvious decision that is why they waited until later to replace the position with a neo presbyter with the ideal that no one would notice. sneaky yes cmon you know better than I do that this is all a plot for something greater not for the benefit of others but for the leaders of the ncw... why is the ncw being fully funded while the schools shut down, and we don't see any of that money being contributed to a cause? better yet no transparency? and why is it evertime something happens in the church someone has to be blamed for it? and you don't see any of the church leaders taking any responsibility for their actions, like Adrian? or quitagua? or apuron? lol is the ncw that low, that it will take an incredible priest and publicly humiliate him and throw aside as if he were a piece of rag? you speak highly on this blog about the great thing the ncw has to offer but that's a practice we don't see publicly in church or out of church. I bet you won't even post this comment here your to afraid to let these people see the truth about what destruction the ncw has caused the families and the relationship between friends better yet the financial well-being for both the church and families that have sacrificed there hard earned money to contribute for a cause for something greater than a profit and here on your blog you talk about doing great thing when all we see is people being told to sign over their inheritance if they love god... not know that it's going to leave their family devastated financially. if you are that great have apuron meet with the CCOG publicly or is the ncw to great to do the right thing? have apuron bring this to and end or does the ncw have to much to lose? call your leader archbishop Anthony apuron and tell him to bring unity to the church or is that not what the ncw wants?

DIANA SAYS: If the goal was to install the NCW into the Dededo parish, and Father Pius and Gennarini call all the shots as Tim Rohr claimed, then why didn't they take the opportunity to replace Father Paul with an RMS priest? That would have been the smart move. In fact, that would have been the golden opportunity to "sneak in the NCW."

LOL.

How are you going to “sneak in the NCW” by putting in an RMS priest? That’s a contradiction in terms since RMS priest = NCW. But then that’s Diana. Stupid.

right either way which is why we shared it because Diana "Adrian" would ask that stupid question knowing there is an rms even if back then they didn't take the opportunity knew they were going to get it in somehow.

The Archbishop does not need to SNEAK any priest. He already have the authority to put in any priest he wants in the Dededo parish. If it was his intention to put in an RMS priest at Santa Barbara Church, he did not need to sneak one in. He would simply do it.

my response:right that's exactly the contradiction because you knew the ncw doesn't have to try because the plot has already been set to demolish the church. and your doing a good job might I add. but it's contradicting because you said tim was wrong about Pius and Gennarini well somehow some way right it happened so tim was not wrong it may have not been exact but it did happen. yeah if it were tony's intension but it did have to start with fr. paul didn't it he was the obstacle, but why fire him? I still don't understand that and that's a big why... why couldn't they just transfered him? put him on suspend him or something but not fire the guy all that practice thrown away in one day. tony should know that...he must feel like a king? he had now remorse for the poor guy, and is that what the ncw is all about beating up priests ?

§ 1. The pastor/parish priest and the presbyters carry out the pastoral care (see c. 519 CIC) of those who go through the Neocatechumenal Way – also in the light of what is indicated in art. 5 §2 and 6 §2 – and exercise “in persona Christi capitis” their priestly ministry by announcing the Word of God, administering the sacraments and, as far as possible, presiding over the celebrations of the first or of other neocatechumenal communities in the parish.

the word presbyter is another word for pastor which is the term used in the protestant church because a pastor in the protestant church is a person/priest in this matter can wed and have children, with the privilege of pastoring that flock in which serves. doesn't sound catholic to me...

Yes, notice how it says the parish priest AND the presbyters (because they are not always priests). Again, a repost from the Sacred Congregation for Divine Worship"

"Prominent among the problems is the decision of the translators to break with common Catholic usage and translate the Latin "presbyteri" into English not with "priests" but with "presbyters". This cannot meet with the Holy See's consent since it risks being misunderstood by the people and represents an unacceptable theological tendency. In particular it constitutes a retreat from a term that carries a sense of sacrality, that carries with it the history of the development of the faith in favor of a term which does not."

The presbyter in Agat denied Mass and burial services on a Saturday to an Agat resident who lived there for over 50 years. Reason given is that it's the Neos' day of worship. This policy started with Barrigada. Can't believe the people Agat can continue putting up with this Neo BULLSHIT.

You bring up a good point. The bottom line is that the Neo's are overrunning the parishes because in fact the people are willing to put up with their BULLSHIT. So long as that is the case then there is nothing Rome, or the CCOG, or I can do about any of this. So long as the local people are afraid to do anything, the Neo's will conquer.

Meanwhile, I would like for someone to give me something in writing and signed by the person who heard it, the reason this idiot presbyter gave for not permitting the funeral on Saturday.

unsubstantiated and uncorroborated stories from anonymous people are exactly why the neocats continue to thrive on the island.

yeah, people know it's bullshit, but by acquiescing, they're telling the kikobots that it really doesn't bother them all that much. quiet whisperings won't get you very far. the kikobots know this, and, as tim noted above, they've been taking full advantage of it for years.

@anon 2:55, please provide proof. if you don't wish to publicize it on the blog, at least email tim.

so how did this story turn out? did the 'presbyter in agat' postpone the Mass and burial services to some other day? or did the family just go elsewhere?

i don't know if it violates canon law, but i do know that denial of a Christian burial without just cause is, at the very least, uncharitable and unpastoral.

stop the money. start going to a non-neocat parish. practice your faith more strongly. document the wrongs and speak out against them.

The reason I want it in writing is for further proof that the Neo's are not Catholic and maybe not even Catholic. Sunday is the Christian day of worship. Mass after sundown on Saturday evening is considered Sunday. So if the presbyter said that Saturday during the day is the Neo's "day of worship", then we have proof that the Neo is not Catholic. That's what I want.

3:51. I don't know what it says on "the paper" since I've never seen one. All I know is what the Vatican stated officially:

"Prominent among the problems is the decision of the translators to break with common Catholic usage and translate the Latin "presbyteri" into English not with "priests" but with "presbyters". This cannot meet with the Holy See's consent since it risks being misunderstood by the people and represents an unacceptable theological tendency. In particular it constitutes a retreat from a term that carries a sense of sacrality, that carries with it the history of the development of the faith in favor of a term which does not."

There has been several families told that they can't have their funeral masses on Saturday because they have baptism scheduled but, funerals masses usually are no later than 1PM. The families usually go to Piti. there is one scheduled for next week Saturday. Sad thing is the spouse is a choir director. She was even turned down in Santa Rita. I know that Alberto doesn't like to be questioned and leaves it up to the parish Secretary to tell the families. Sad, Sad.

adrians way of control when I read this comment on "DIANA's" blog I was hurt by the way our priests are being treated idk if this upsets you, but just goes to show that these men can't fend for themselves due to the oath they have taking. right now they are being taken advantage of and no one not even rome has something to say or do about this? this comment was posted by an anonymous person could be Adrian himself... but even if it were a member of the faith is this how people treat a priest? notice it says "DON'T THESE PRIESTS" plural with an (s) how that statement alone shows that the ncw has no respect for the catholic faith and uses the abuses the priests the were ordained catholic (not presbyter) are used as their personal punching bags. sad how you would see that and not see the ncw make fun of one of their own "presbyter/pastor".... and Adrian "DIANA" think he "SHE' is so smart all of this for personal gain? how low? how sad? how indecent? DECIDE AND TAKE ACTION PROTECT YOUR PRIEST, AND PROTECT OUR CHURCH...

AnonymousJuly 31, 2015 at 10:04 PM

Don't these priests ever obey the bishop? Hello! Didn't they make a promise of obedien when they were ordained? Fr Gofigan and Benavente needs to 'man-up' if they really are 'men' and obey! Perhaps they Are not men but just a bunch of wooosess.

FROM DIANA’S BLOG: “Don't these priests ever obey the bishop? Hello! Didn't they make a promise of obedien when they were ordained? Fr Gofigan and Benavente needs to 'man-up' if they really are 'men' and obey! Perhaps they Are not men but just a bunch of wooosess.”

Fr. Paul did obey. Apuron gave him a choice to resign immediately OR face “a more arduous and painful closure to his assignment.” Apuron gave him the choice and he chose the latter. Meanwhile, Apuron acted ILLEGALLY by removing Fr. Paul as pastor without the due process as prescribed in Canon Law. So it was Apuron who was DISOBEDIENT to the CHURCH.

In the Msgr. James case, Msgr. James DID OBEY. He was removed from his positions and ordered to St. Anthony’s. Msgr. James is at St. Anthony. If Apuron had simply reassigned him there would have been no problem. But Apuron DID NOT just reassign him, he published - several times - a list of accusations against Msgr. James. Msgr. James has only asked for an opportunity to address those charges - which is his canonical right. Apuron didn’t give it to him so Msgr. James filed an appeal to Rome - which is his canonical right. Once again, it was Apuron who was DISOBEDIENT to the CHURCH for denying a priest his canonical rights.

Actually friends, this goes back a bit further before the Neocatechumenal Way landed on Guam. It goes back to the first appointment of Adrian to the Carhedral Basilica as its rector. You all need to pay attention to when Adrian was moved from Maina okay. Remember who Adrian took over the Rector position at the Cathedral Basilica. It's since that time period that this blackmail began and remember friends, Adrian threatened the Archbishop to Ordain him because he was rejected by a unanimous vote at St. Joseph's College faculty of non-continuance. So friends, beware of this wolf in sheep's clothing. Indeed, many are called and the few who are chosen sometimes bullies.

so @anon 5:52, you're alleging that adrian's very own ordination was the result of his "dirt" on apuron?? i suppose anything's possible, from what we've seen happen the past two decades. and that's an even more serious allegation than introducing the ncw into the island. i don't remember, was adrian ordained by apuron?

@5:52 this seems to make a lot of sense. We can't know for certain, but would SEEM not the caliber for ordination. But that's not a concern during APURON's vast wasteland. Was with a couple of friends when we read this. They're aghast at the remote idea Cristobal would be ordained bishop. Won't happen, but he's doing plenty of harm without crosier.

To the author who posted on Diana's pitiful blog, you will experience a painful and arduous existence. I will make sure. Remember, I can find you, and my swarm of mosquitos can make your life miserable. Tim and Father Mike are well protected. I do have my thug side as well as my tech side.

If in fact, Adrian coerced or blackmailed Apuron into ordaining him then the validity of his orders is in question. In order for any sacrament to be valid, their must be right intention. If Apuron did not intend to ordain Adrian but only went through the motions then Adrian is not a priest and all the sacraments administered by him may also have to be questioned including all marriages, confessions, baptisms, etc.

He did. I attended every mass including the Santa Barbara procession and the December 8 procession. I sat in the very front pews and walk by him outside of his bodyguards. He knew I was there and had his idiot NEOs as bodyguards to buffer him.

I did approach Vicar General Quitugua inside the cathedral and reached out to shake his hand at the alter. Talk about "a deer in headlights." Cowards and evil men...