WE THOUGHT WE'D "GET the BALL[OT] ROLLING" by JUMP-STARTING a DISCUSSION of WHO WE THINK THE LIKELIEST WORST ACTOR CHOICES for 2012 ARE GONNA BE.

BASED on MEMBER POSTINGS HERE on the FORUM, R.T. REVIEWS, BOX OFFICE GROSSES and WHAT WE LIKE to CALL "RAZZIE®PEDIGREE," the DOZEN or SO STRONGEST CONTENDERS as WORST ACTOR of 2012 SEEM to BELONG in 3 GROUPS:

LIAM NEESON, WHO'S CLEARLY the LEAD ACTOR in http://www.razzies.com/forum/forum648.html - , as WELL AS PLAYING PROMINENT ROLES in BOTH http://www.razzies.com/forum/member-discussion-addl-info-on-battleship_forum628.html - andhttp://www.razzies.com/forum/wrath-of-the-titans-discussion-info_forum618.html - (FEEL FREE to DISCUSS WHETHER the LATTER TWO ROLES QUALIFY LIAM as WORST LEAD or WORST SUPPORTING)...

FEEL FREE to LOBBY FOR, DISAGREE and/or DISAVOW ANYONE LISTED HERE -- AS WELL AS ADDING ANY NAMES YOU THINK WE MAY HAVE OVER-LOOKED.

WE CAN'T WAIT to HEAR YOUR http://razzies.com/join.asp - FEEDBACK!

-------------Ye Olde Head RAZZberry

Replies: Posted By: oiram
Date Posted: October 29 2012 at 2:16pm

What about two time nominee Gerard Butler for Chasing Mavericks and Playing for Keeps? He could end up being a potential nominee, though it might not be a guarantee.

Also, John Cusack in The Raven and Kevin Kline in Darling Companion were pretty bad.

As for those already listed: Even though I thought the first trailer for Jack Reacher looked like Generic Action Movie: The Movie, the second trailer looked like there could be some potential, but I wasn't going to hold my breath. I really think we should wait until Jack Reacher comes out before we decide.

I was actually wondering if Lautner could still be considered Worst Actor since this last Twilight movie is his only movie this year. I guess that answers the question.

I think it would be better if Neeson was Worst Actor for just Taken 2 and if he was Worst Supporting Actor for Battleship and Wrath of the Titans, because I believe he has a better chance of winning the latter.

So, I'm guessing you did not think Savages (Taylor Kitsch's third movie) is Razzie worthy?

Lastly, and this is just personal preference, but I feel like Chris Hemsworth should not be punished yet. I'd feel better if he started makng flop after flop after flop, and then I'll think "Okay, consider him." I know you LOATHED the original Red Dawn, but I'd rather have Josh Peck as a Worst Actor contestant instead -- or just see Red Dawn as a Worst Remake/Rip-off contestant.

So, yeah, that's all I have to say. Well, actually, I would like to know if more polls like this are coming shortly?

EDIT: I forgot to mention who would be the "TOP FIVE" and "WINNER"

I think it is a no brainer that Adam Sandler, Eddie Murphy, and Nicolas Cage will be nominated. I believe it will be mostly a race for the last two spots between Neeson, Kitsch, Worthington, Pattinson, Lautner, Perry (for BOTH Alex Cross and Good Deeds), and maybe Stallone.

As for winner, it has to be Cage. This could be the last time he will be eligible, and we don't want him to miss a win, now do we?

I'm SO glad you didn't list any joint nominations! I can't even think of many more plausible nominees than the 12-14 you listed above. However, there are some kinks in the selection of films:

*Even if it's (beep)ing Sylvester Stallone, I wouldn't recommend The Expendables 2 for the nomination ballot until I can remember how the 13 out of 20 approval rating was refuted.

*Liam Neeson should receive one Worst Actor nomination for Battleship, Wrath of the Titans, and Taken 2. That way all 3 films can be RAZZed, plus more room is saved for the Worst Supporting Actor nomination.

*Battleship was Taylor Kitsch's only bad film. I keep forgetting why John Clarter deserves RAZZIE nominations so much apart from the 1/4 Gigadollar budget, and even then I thought I heard somewhere that it grossed more than that on the planetary cinema market. And Oliver Stone's Savages was not an official RAZZIE contender, and had a middling approval rating, so Savages is right out!

*Tyler Perry should probably just be nominated for Madea's Witness Protection and Alex Cross. Otherwise, why didn't you start the forum for Good Deeds back in February if you thought Tyler Perry was worse than Jennifer Aniston?

*Rock of Ages was average, indeed MUCH better than That's My Boy (same release date of June 15), so I hope that doesn't get RAZZed. But Jack Reacher looks far better than This is 40, Parental Guidance, or The Guilt Trip.

*Rock of Ages was average, indeed MUCH better than That's My Boy (same release date of June 15), so I hope that doesn't get RAZZed. But Jack Reacher looks far better than This is 40,Parental Guidance, or The Guilt Trip.

-T. Kitsch in BATTLESHIP, JOHN CARTER and SAVAGES -- While he
was more passable than usual in SAVAGES, he was still weak. And I don't think nominating average movies in acting categories is unfair. That being said, I'm
still against JC for Worst
Picture.

-A.
Sandler in THAT'S MY BOY,

-B. Walker in AL:VH.

Contenders
I know won't make it:

-Gael García
Bernal in A LITTLE BIT OF HEAVEN,

-Tom Hardy
in THIS MEANS WAR,

-Chris Hemsworth in SNOW WHITE AND THE HUNTSMAN,

-Aaron Johnson in SAVAGES,

-Channing
Tatum in HAYWIRE and THE VOW,

-Denzel
Washington in SAFE HOUSE.

My front-runners:

-Nicolas Cage in GR2 and SJ.

-Sam Worthington in MOAL and WOTT.

Although I haven't seen TAKEN 2 yet, it does seem to me a good idea
for Neeson to get just 1 nod for all his titles, even though he barely did anything
in BATTLESHIP or WOTT.

I've said in the past -- that story-line had enough closure in KNOCKED UP. But I don't think it'll be Razzie-worthy (and it didn't sound like GTA thought so either). It'll probably be decent but disappointing, like FUNNY PEOPLE.

OR, if neither one of those two Twilight Boys makes the cut, one of these Runners up:

Channing Tatum (because he is a sucky actor and I don't care what people say how supposedly heartfelt it was, his speech at the end of Magic Mike "B-B-But that is Magic Mike, and this is M-M-Me", did not make me feel the least bit of sympathy for the character).

Benjamin Walker for Abraham Lincoln:Vampire Hunter

BTW: I personally thought Hemsworth was pretty much the only good thing about Snow White & The Huntsman (apart from the dwarves).

-------------

Posted By: MiguelAntilsu
Date Posted: October 31 2012 at 8:20am

I haven't quite narrowed my list down to five, but here are my current Worst Actor prospects:

Robert Pattinson in "Bel Ami" and "The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2"

Tyler Perry in "Alex Cross"

Chris Pine in "This Means War"

Andy Samberg in "That's My Boy"

Adam Sandler in "That's My Boy"

Bruce Willis in "The Cold Light of Day" and "Lay the Favorite"

Sam Worthington in "Man on a Ledge" and "Wrath of the Titans"

-------------

Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: October 31 2012 at 1:00pm

These are the films I'm hoping will NOT be nominated that have already been mentioned in this thread:

Safe House (Feb. 10, 53% approval): No forum. Who keeps bringing this film up?

Tyler Perry's Good Deeds (Fbr. 24, 32% approval): If this was worse than Wanderlust, why didn't Good Deeds get a forum instead?)

Tim & Eric's Billion Dollar Movie (Mar. 2, 38% approval): First a publication on a site I can't remember, now Antilsu! If enough people hated this film, why didn't it get a forum here?

John Carter (Mar. 9, 51% approval): You better make D*** sure this doesn't get on the ballots, especially for Worst Picture!

A Little Bit of Heaven (May 4, 4% approval): There's a small handful of people putting intense pressure on us to RAZZ this, but it must've been quite small to not have gotten a RAZZIE forum. A film this small with so little RAZZIE pedigree doesn't deserve to waste a nomination.

Lay the Favorite (Dec. 7, 26% approval): Though it's a limited release, would you like it to get a forum?

Freelancers and Occupy Unmasked: Extremely small films that absolutely no-one else would recognize, even considering they were limited releases!

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Some of your points above are well taken, but I most enjoy hearing your arguments in defense of JOHN CARTER - A movie frequently cited as among the year's Biggest B.O. Bombs, and one that many of our http://razzies.com/join.asp -

That would be me, but I specified that I knew SAFE HOUSE wouldn't make it onto the ballot...

Originally posted by GTAHater767

Safe House (Fbr. 10, 53% approval): No forum. Who keeps bringing this film up?

At the time it seemed a better idea to choose the movie starring a Razzie nominee instead of a repeat offender who always gets away unharmed.

Originally posted by GTAHater767

Tyler Perry's Good Deeds (Fbr. 24, 32% approval): If this was worse than Wanderlust, why didn't Good Deeds get a forum instead?)

Not enough people hated it; Miguel is the only one who has mentioned it. That's the point.

Originally posted by GTAHater767

Tim & Eric's Billion Dollar Movie (Mrc. 2, 38% approval): First a publication on a site I can't remember, now Antilsu! If enough people hated this film, why didn't it get a forum here?

You mean waste ballot space, right? Because if it does get nominated, it won't be a waste because it means people wanted it to be nominated.

Originally posted by GTAHater767

A Little Bit of Heaven (May 4, 4% approval): There's a small handful of people putting intense pressure on us to RAZZ this, but it must've been quite small to not have gotten a RAZZIE forum. A film this small with so little RAZZIE pedigree doesn't deserve to waste a nomination.

HeadRAZZ said "maybe" (and just in case Cruise sucks in JACK REACHER). He put ROA because, despite not-so-bad reviews, it was one of the biggest box office flops of the year.

WHY not consider A LITTLE BIT OF HEAVEN??? The movie was a total critical AND commercial dud, with TWO previous Razzie nominees (Kate Hudson and Whoopi Goldberg) at the bottom of their game (esp. Kate, who's long overdue for a "win")...

Originally posted by GTAHater767

A Little Bit of Heaven (May 4, 4% approval): A film this small with so little RAZZIE pedigree doesn't deserve to waste a nomination.

The guy plugging Magic Mike? That's me, but it isn't about the movie. It just sucks that Tatum and Pettyfer can't be nominated for WA and WSA just because the movie overall was good -- there can be bad performances in a good movie, and last year we were told even if it they don't end up on the ballots, we can nominate them by write-in votes.

If not, I''d probably say Tatum for The Vow, then (though I haven't seen it).

Originally posted by GTAHater767

These are the films I'm hoping will NOT be nominated that have already been mentioned in this thread:

Magic Mike (Jne. 29, 80% approval): With such a high approval rating, this would be a huge waste of space on the list of finalists!

-------------

Posted By: JoeBacon
Date Posted: November 01 2012 at 6:27am

One "actor" who simply MUST be added to the list: JASON BEGHE for ATLAS SHAGGED!!!!

2) Robert Pattinson for Bel Ami. Robert Pattinson was a terrible casting decision for this movie. As usual he gave a wooden performance. I haven't watched The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn- Part II yet. So on principle I can't nominate him for that movie. However it would not surprise me if he gives a Razzie-worthy performance in that movie.

3) Nicolas Cage for Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance. His performance in that movie deserves a Razzie nod.

4) Oliver Cooper for Project X. As one of the main characters Costa is supposed to be one we can have some sort of sympathy for. He failed to do that. Instead he portrays Costa as someone you would want to punch -- below the belt line.

5) Sam Worthington for Man on a Ledge. His acting should be acknowledged for the next Razzies. He gave a character that I didn't give a $h!^ about. I haven't seen Wrath of the Titans so I'm unable to say anything about it.

I am convinced that Oliver Cooper should be nominated for Worst Actor rather than Worst Supporting Actor. In Project X he's one of the "three amigos". Any one of the three should be eligible for Worst Actor.

No, it should be Thomas Mann as Worst Actor, because he is the main star. Mann also had a big role in Fun Size, and is going to be in two movies next year, one guaranteed to suck (Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters).

I disagree. Many critics have been saying that Oliver Cooper as Costa is one of the three main characters -- Like I said before, this should make him eligible in the category of Worst Actor.

Perhaps Head Razzberry can give us some guidance on whether Oliver Cooper is eligible for Worst Actor (as I think he should be) or Worst Supporting Actor. Unless he insists on Worst Supporting Actor, I'm insisting that Oliver Cooper be considered for Worst Actor, for being the most "punch-worthy" character since Jar Jar Binks!

I would like to throw in another prospect: Johnny Knoxville for both "Fun Size" and "Nature Calls."

-------------

Posted By: travis112096
Date Posted: November 12 2012 at 11:15am

Some other choices for Worst Actor:

joseph gordon-levitt - premium rush

kevin james - here comes the boom

dax shepard - hit and run

bradley cooper - the words

ben stiiler, vince vaughn, jonah hill and richard ayoade - the watch

diego boneta - rock of ages

johnny depp - dark shadows

jason biggs - american reunion

chris pine - this means war

channing tatum - the vow

mark wahlberg - contraband

-------------

Posted By: GTAHater767
Date Posted: November 12 2012 at 11:52am

To Dun-Ida: Do you truly believe Project X has very high odds of making the finalists' cut for any categories?

To Antilsu: Those two are not what I'd consider "official RAZZIE contenders."

To travis112096: I managed to read your all-lowercase post, and NONE of those films are have Official RAZZIE Forums!

To The Larch: If Kate Hudson couldn't even make it as a Worst Actress finalist for Something Borrowed in 2011, how can she possibly be considered a finalist for Little Bit of Heaven?

-------------

Posted By: The Larch
Date Posted: November 12 2012 at 3:21pm

GTA: To answer the second part first - because she was god-awful (even by her "standards") in it (ask any reviewer who has the misfortune to watch A Little Bit of Heaven *more like A Whole Lotta Hellish Torture*)- isn't that what the Razzies should be all about?

Now to answer the first part- go ask HeadRazz WHY she inexplicably didn't make the cut (also "snubbed" for a Worst Supporting Actress nomination- that block of wood who calls herself January Jones for last year's X-Men: First Class) ; my guess is she doesn't go against his political viewpoint ala a certain Worst Actress nominee from Alaska who's not even an actress by trade...

Originally posted by GTAHater767

To The Larch: If Kate Hudson couldn't even make it as a Worst Actress finalist for Something Borrowed in 2011, how can she possibly be considered a finalist for Little Bit of Heaven?

Under the rules of the Academy Awards (AMPAS), Bel Ami and Pattinson in Bel Ami are not eligible due to the film being on VOD PRIOR to its theatrical release. (VOD was May 4, theatrical release was June 8) Films going to VOD are eligible if VOD is the same day as theatrical release or AFTER but not BEFORE. Besides, Bel Ami was also on regular television prior to theatrical release as well.

Originally posted by MiguelAntilsu

Robert Pattinson in "Bel Ami" and "The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn Part 2"

Posted By: oiram
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 6:43am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the same thing happen with Margin Call, which went on to garner an Oscar nod?

Movies are only eligible under Academy rules if VOD availability is on the SAME day (or AFTER) theatrical release -- which was the case with Margin Call. (So the same thing did NOT happen with Margin Call.) With Bel Ami, VOD was BEFORE, which makes it ineligible.

I can provide the link again to their rules if you'd like.

Posted By: mbh
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 7:06am

Calm down! Almost no one has seen Bel Ami anyways. I'd say it's a similar case to Lawrence with House at the End of the Street. Both movies were shot two years ago, and now Bel Ami comes back to haunt Pattz. Whether I'd vote for him all depends on his performance in Breaking Dawn 2.

By the way, why do you always defend him but not Stewart?

-------------

Posted By: MR
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 7:09am

I have defended both Pattinson and Stewart before.

And I agree with you about Lawrence.

Posted By: mbh
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 7:44am

Oh, you did? That's too bad! I thought for a second you might have seen that her performances to date were nothing special. Guess I should have known better...

-------------

Posted By: MR
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 8:08am

Well it was more that I have maintained that Lautner was the weakest actor of the 3 leads.

Posted By: mbh
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 8:37am

So Pattinson & girlfriend are being defended, while Lautner is on his own?

Oh, the logic! However, Lautner will most likely take the fifth spot on my ballot. He might be lucky again this year though -- too many others are way overdue for a razz-ing.

-------------

Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: November 14 2012 at 12:17pm

I've got 3 more suggestions, and they're all from THE WATCH: Ben Stiller, Vince Vaughn and Richard Ayoade* (separately). But not Johah Hill.

*In some of the marketing and the movie's opening credits he's not listed along the other 3, so maybe he would fit more as Worst Supp. Actor?

Liam Neeson is the lead in Taken 2 and a Supporting Actor in both Battleship and Wrath of the Titans...

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: And he will be listed that way on our 33rd Annual Nominating Ballot, which is due to go out later today...

-------------

Posted By: AndP
Date Posted: December 27 2012 at 10:01pm

Someone who really deserves to be shamed here is Ben Affleck in ARGO. I know -- the the movie in general has gotten good reviews. But casting himself as a real life Latino man is unforgivable! This is the same racist crap as John Wayne playing Ghenghis Khan in The Conqueror. And despite whatever ability he has with directing, he's still a godawful actor, giving a horrid performance.

Again, I realize it's highly unlikely he'll be nominated in this category...but I just had to say he should be!

RESPONSE from Head RAZZberry: Sadly, you're right. Ben Affleck being a Worst Actor nominee for ARGO is about as likely as him being elected Senator from Massachusetts (which for about 12 minutes was actually being "seriously discussed" in political circles). If it's any consolation, the "Ben Half of Ben-Iffer" has an extensive history with us, having garnered to date a total of 8 RAZZIE® Nominations (including one as Worst Actor of the Decade) and two "wins." Here's an http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000255/awards - to see what they were for (you'll have to scroll way down the page -- We're listed below "Primetime Emmy Awards").

-------------

Posted By: Vits
Date Posted: December 28 2012 at 8:30am

Affleck didn't make it to the Nominating Ballot, and nobody ever mentioned him on this Forum. The truth is, the world seems split on whether his performance in ARGO was good or not (personally, I agree with AndP: I thought he sucked!).