(08-01-2017, 06:43 AM)rudidur Wrote: All other theories created by religion (mass schizophrenia)

Thats an interesting diagnosis. How does it work? Because as far as I know there has never been any suggestion that mass schizophrenia exists beyond your post. So I would be most interested to hear your evidence for such a diagnosis.
For example how do explain mass schizophrenia in pre teens? As schizophrenia is extremely rare in that age group.
Also what is your diagnosis criteria?

I cannot speak for our friend, and I cannot link yet, but google this university professor's vid ---- Professor Sapolsky Explains the Origin of Religion Part 1/2 ----- and you will get the answer you likely do not want.

Truth is not likely what you want.

If you want to see how it is inflicted by the abuse of children then google ----- Jesus Camp 1of 3 .

(08-01-2017, 06:43 AM)rudidur Wrote: All other theories created by religion (mass schizophrenia)

Thats an interesting diagnosis. How does it work? Because as far as I know there has never been any suggestion that mass schizophrenia exists beyond your post. So I would be most interested to hear your evidence for such a diagnosis.
For example how do explain mass schizophrenia in pre teens? As schizophrenia is extremely rare in that age group.
Also what is your diagnosis criteria?

The human being --- the being of light --- the short life span.

The paranormal being --- the oldest form of positive energy with the center of intelligence.

Any religion --- the wrong definition - seen from the angle of view, which is observed by the paranormal being.

Religion --- misinterpretation --- the life of the being of light and the life of the paranormal being, both on the border, but the contact is impenetrable until they change sides!

Religion --- a godly desire of illusions, a yearning for the salvation of any kind that religion gives for the time of physical life.

Alzheimer's disease, seen from the life of a paranormal creature ----- Early abandonment of intelligent energy from the old body.

Paranormal energy can move its dead body from one point to another ----- the legend of Christ.

(08-03-2017, 01:24 PM)crossbow Wrote: and you think contemporary American Christians hold similar views to WWII Nazis. You poor thing, you are so confused.

I would not use the term "contemporary American Christians." Most of the worlds Christians are not hate fuelled, so I would use the same terminology that I would use to describe other religious or political zelots. As I see no difference between the hatred espoused against the targets of modern hate filled Christian extremists, with the hatred, espoused by the Nazi's or the likes of Isis. They are all hate filled & willing to use violence against others & they are all at the extreme end of their own belief system.
The best way to marginalise the hate filled is to call them what they are "Extremists."

It is difficult to answer someone whose questions are loaded with suppositions.
There are many presumptions and precepts that you don't know to be true, but they are loaded into your question on universality. There are more options where you assume only two are possible. There is such a tangle that one must undo before stating again. I suggest you read through it thoughtfully, sentence by sentence, consider each presumption, what you know and don't know, that there may be more,... or less,... there may be unknown qualities, purposes, eventualities, ... that things may fit together in ways you have not thought of,... Clean the blackboard and start afresh. Things might come clearer.

And by the way, I am not interested in bullying you so don't fantasize that I am. Insecure victim mentalities take imagined offences over nothing, then retaliate with out of proportion reactions to gain a sense of being in the right. Give it up.

Crossbow. Define what you mean by knowing. It's an important concept.
You seem to be suggesting that because I am suspicious & do not believe what you do, then I cannot understand what you mean.
Consider the above concept it's vital to reality.
One of the first principles of evidence is that it should stand up to scepticism & enquiry.
Let me explain. I do not need to believe in motor vehicles to learn that standing in the middle of the M25 is bad for my health. I do not have to believe in John Logie Baird to watch TV, or in gravity to hang myself. As all are real concepts.
Your belief system is a lot younger than the M25, motor vehicles & Television, yet it is unproven. To accept what you say you claim needs faith. So you are asking people to suspend reality in order that they can accept an unprovable concept.
You & you kind often talk about what you know, yet always fail to be able to prove what you know. As it is not what you know that you are talking about. But, instead what you want to believe, that you are defining as knowing.
A delusion is a mis-held belief, that is held with absolute conviction. You know not because it is so, but because it cannot be questioned in a sceptical way. You fear questioning & evidence & you have to discount those who do not follow your misheld belief as non believers & attempt to hide behind words that you cannot defend, such as knowing.
Faith is good. I have no issues with anyone believing anything. And religious faith should make the world a happier & better place. That word should is again important, as faith should not include a way of defending bigotry.
Faith should allow people to say they know something greater than themselves yes. But they should also understand what real truth & misheld belief is too.
Sadly many people who talk about faith & the truth have very rigidly adhere to such thought patterns & fail to apply normal standards of logic to their thought patterns & that is when faith becomes unhealthy.
Call faith a concept of reality, or a theory of reality & it is healthy & no less real than evolution, gravity or nuclear physics. Call it "The" truth & say I am sceptical there fore I cannot understand unless I start thinking like you & you clearly have a issue.