Originally Posted by Nameless one
HoI 3 and EU 3 had similar problems, they both where messes on initial release, they both lived up to their potential after 2 expansions.Luckily Victoria II, CK II and Sengoku where pretty clean on release so I am confident EU IV will be too.

Yeah, definitely. I remember being vaguely disappointed by EUIII, but the expansions really brought it together. On top of that, CK2 just blew me away. CK1 was cool in theory but just wasn't put together right. CK2 really brought all of Paradox's experience and resources together and hit it out of the park. It looks like EUIV will do likewise!