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There’s Something Strange On The Moon

[disinfo ed.’s note: Jay Weidner, described by Wired as an “authority on the hermetic and alchemical traditions” and “erudite conspiracy hunter,” will be interviewing former NASA consultant Richard Hoagland for Gaiam TV Wednesday, May 16th at 7 p.m. EST. Here he describes his feelings about Hoagland’s work.]

I have to tell you from the beginning that I am somewhat prejudiced about the subject of Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA, the bestselling book by Richard C. Hoagland and Michael Bara. My own investigation of the high strangeness that exists on the lunar surface began in 1992 and dovetails with Hoagland’s search for answers.

In the mid-sixties, before the Apollo missions, NASA compiled a report of astronomers from the past who had witnessed anomalous activity on the surface of the moon through their telescopes. Titled R-277 and found here, each page of this report is filled with weirdness. Flashing lights, moving objects, even clouds are seen on the moon by astronomers as famous as Messier, Herschel, and Bianchini. These compiled reports go all the way back to 1540.

My own interest in the moon initially came from the moon symbol on the Cross of Hendaye mentioned in Fulcanelli’s mysterious book Mysteries of the Cathedrals. I vowed to myself in 1986 that I would examine every facet of this mysterious monument rightly believing that it held many answers to the mysteries of our world. Through the course of my initial investigation I discovered the aforementioned NASA document. After reading it I knew that something odd was on the moon.

I first interviewed Richard C. Hoagland on my public radio show “Mind Over Matters” in 1992. At the time he had been combing through many NASA photographs which showed the weird anomalies that are apparently all over the moon’s surface. We spent many hours examining these photographs and discussing the implications involved with their discovery. The conclusion that we reached was that NASA had found something of such importance that it had to be covered up. It could be one of the greatest discoveries of all time. But what were they? How had they been built? And by whom? These were the questions that vexed us all those years ago. I watched as Hoagland developed a brilliant theory that explains most of the curious things that Apollo found on the moon.

In Dark Mission we get Hoagland’s blow by blow account of NASA’s discovery and subsequent cover up of this most astonishing find. This book courageously reveals the unexplainable anomalies that have been found all over the lunar surface. Well written and exciting, Hoagland and Bara have made an important contribution.

Isaac Asimov once said that the weirdest object in the universe is the moon. He didn’t know how right he was. Dark Mission successfully leads the reader down the rabbit hole and into the labyrinth of evidence of humanity’s real past and the promise of our destiny.

In Stanley Kubrick’s film, 2001: A Space Odyssey, NASA discovers a mysterious black monolith, obviously intelligently designed, buried a few feet beneath the lunar surface. The monolith is a device left there millions of years ago waiting to be discovered by us when we are finally advanced enough to find our way to the moon. According to Hoagland, Stanley Kubrick’s fable is the real history of NASA.

It is probably just a strange coincidence that Kubrick was making his film during the same years that NASA was planning and executing the Apollo missions. Or maybe not.

If one comes away from Dark Mission unconvinced all I ask is that you look at the evidence for yourself. Ask yourself how there can be objects and refracting light sitting above an airless lunar surface? Ask yourself why NASA never tries to explain this? Ask yourself why the Apollo 11 original video tapes have mysteriously disappeared?

When the ships from Europe first arrived on the shores of the Americas over 500 years ago the native people didn’t understand what they were seeing. It wasn’t until they were taken aboard the ships by the Europeans that they came to understand what the ships actually were. Because they had no context, European technology seemed alien and strange to them. When looking at the evidence of anomalous lunar objects, try not to make the same mistake that those Native Americans made so long ago. When looked at with new eyes, one can only reach the conclusion that Hoagland is right and there is something very strange about the moon.

I’m getting the distinct pleasure of having another thought-provoking conversation with Richard C. Hoagland tomorrow, Wednesday, May 16th at 7 p.m. EST on Gaiam TV. We’ll be talking about the rare solar eclipse that will take place this Sunday, followed by a lunar eclipse and the Transit of Venus. We’ll explore if these eclipses could these reveal the secrets of 2012. Tune in to see this free interview here.

This is scattered all over the place. This article went completely nowhere. What was the point trying to be made? that theirs something ‘weird’ happening on the moon, and that’s it? the article goes NOWHERE. And then it goes onto 2012 bullshit. WTF, why is disinfo posting this stupid shit?

Dc

It makes no mention of 2012.

http://www.facebook.com/patrickdwyerprobablyhatesyou Patrick Dwyer

“We’ll explore if these eclipses could these reveal the secrets of 2012.” It’s the second to last poorly written sentence of the article.

Calypso_1

why? because if it wasn’t the people who need a nazi space monkey fix would be bitching about some other post.

Paul Suliin

This is a bit sad. Hoagland’s “photographic proof” is obtained (by his own admission) only by heavy digital manipulation of lunar photographs. As for the “anomalies” seen by astronomers centuries ago, the simplest explanation seems to be mediocre lenses and the fact that telescopes were still in their infancy.

For pity’s sake, Hoagland insists that none of the astronauts who have actually been to the moon report seeing his “structures” because their memories were edited by hypnosis. Every criticism of his work is met by another untestable conspiracy theory.

This is nonsense.

http://profile.yahoo.com/FRJD66AT6LQ6CZZ46XJO43A4FM Artor

As soon as you mention Hoagland, any credibility you might have had evaporates. The man is as absurd as David Icke!

JohnFrancisBittrich

Gotta say, I always chuckle at people who read posts like this one and use it to question disinfo’s “credibility”. WTF do you even mean by credibility? Disinfo has always been about the cray-cray, the occult, the weird, the unpopular and the unproveable. It’s up to us as the readers to “see the fnords” as it were. Active, engaged reading and critical thinking, not passive acceptance of facts. Dig?

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7NSDHXZVKAFK4SVLFWIQQDXURI Dirk Johnson

With all due respect, no one is as absurd as David Icke.

Lakota

Its actually easier to prove why the moon shouldn’t exist than how it came to be. Subjects like possible intelligent life elsewhere is often considered hogwash. But its a HUGE universe. Its entirely possible. Honestly do you think that the american government would tell its people if they discovered something like that? There’s a reason there is a no fly zone over the moon lol. Who knows what that reason is. Could be true. I’m curious to see what he’s got along the lines of evidence. I’ll make my decision based on that and not what i think should be true

Redacted

A “no fly zone” over the Moon?

Camron Wiltshire’s Screen Name

Yar, heard something about that, to preserve our precious landing sites integrity. We feel obligated to preserve the patterns of dust we imprinted, from the erosion of time, stellar wind, cosmic ray bombardment or pesky skeptical satellites the US does not own. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/21/opinion/that-old-heritage-moon.html
Yar.

Camron Wiltshire

the captcha was “use rpills” no bullshit.
Awesome, even random captchas are reflecting reality. Or are they Random??????? ARRRRGGGHGHHHHHGHGHHHHHHHH!! GAMMA RADIATION! MUTATING ME!!!!!! Fukushima is noticeably absent from the collective conversation…

I don’t think the subject of possible extra planetary intelligent life is considered bullshit, it’s only rational to think we’re not alone in this expanding universe. Saying you know there’s ET’s on the moon so you better grab your al-foil hat, on the other hand…

Camron Wiltshire

864.000 ÷ 2160 = 400
93,000,000 ÷ 232,500 = 400

What are the odds?

“All explanations for the origin of the Moon are improbable” -Harold Urey Nobel prize winning chemist.

Check out “Who Built the Moon” by Alan Butler and Christopher Knight to understand the unlikelihood of the given theories for the origin of the Moon as well as some very speculative and engaging one’s which require imagination and flexibility with existing paradigms.

Loved Alchemical Kubrick by Mr. Weidner as well. Also lots of evidence that at least the first moon mission was hogwash. How many people have seen this clip?

http://krishnatube.com/video/4…I would suggest watching from ~30:00-45:00 to see what I think is the most obvious evidence of manipulation of footage. Here we have evidence of Nasa Astronauts manipulating the apparent distance of their craft from the Earth. What could possibly explain this obvious slip up outside of obfuscation of the full truth of the Mission. If you respond be sure to reference the above clip and portion first. No red herrings please.Like
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JoiquimCouteau

That video couldn’t possibly be less related to your post.

Camron Wiltshire

Why?

JoiquimCouteau

Click it and you’ll find out.

Camron Wiltshire

Circular logic fallacy. You’ve said nothing. Anyone who wants to see a mind blowing release, follow the directions above, watch that particular portion and tell me NASA isn’t lying to your face about the first Moon landing.

JoiquimCouteau

Not circular logic, please click the video you posted.

Camron Wiltshire

My apologies Joiquim, I thought you were being dismissive. It appears I either posted the wrong link or they are not hosting the video there. This is the video I meant to share. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC3va3fCLpA Please watch all the way through. This is the most telling evidence I have seen regarding the first landing being a hoax at least. Best wishes.

The diameter of Earth is conspicuously absent from your equations, but don’t let that stop you. Throw the masses of all three bodies in there and I’ll be forever impressed.

Camron Wiltshire

1/400th the size and 1/400th the distance. What are the odds of this miraculous occurrence?

Andrew

100%

Camron Wiltshire

So the Moon just so happens to be in an orbit where it is 1/400th the distance between the Earth and Sun and it’s body is 1/400th the size of the Sun and this is just coincidence right?

Liquidself

Has your alias been vetted through review?

Indrid C.

The universe is already beautiful. Stop making it into stupid sci-fi fanfic.

Sand Dog

the tapes disappeared because the people that had real work to do didn’t make sure the tapes were properly kept. Back then people were happy enough to have seen it once they didn’t think it would matter again and again thought the next one is going to be so much better. You did it with your VHS in the 80s

StillAtMyMoms

NASA COINTELPRO, anyone?

Redacted

Yeah. NASA hires COINTELPRO to hang around Disinfo.

Sand Dog

Humans are so young and are technology is a joke at 150 years young. Imagine you’re the universe first intelligent being. You are 7 billion years old and you poke around here unnoticed all the time. We would never know unless they wanted us too. It’s humans that do passive aggressive.

JaceD

A 7 billion year old sentient species? Nah they would have sublimed by now. Unless they’re the Culture.

http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/RWWAEM343UIK2IBZB3OXQZTQXM SPET67

I agree with most of what you said.

Most scientists agree that it’s likely that there is other life in the universe. It’s easy to imagine that there are species that are a little older or a little smarter than us & that their technology blows ours out of the water.
But, regarding the passive aggressive stuff, it may not be passive aggression. If there is/was a superior species watching us, their ethics may call for them to watch us, but not to interfere. Or alternately, there are people who claim that we’ve been openly visited & taught by “space brothers” in the past. Some even claim that they are influencing us today, from behind the scenes. I consider these theories speculative and unproven. But, that doesn’t mean they’re wrong.

Morgan

“Stanley Kubrick’s fable”? Ever heard of a guy named Arthur C. Clarke? True, that one was written in collaboration with Kubrick, but it was also based on Clarke’s earlier work that well pre-dates the Apollo program.

http://twitter.com/TAWardrope T.A. Wardrope

As interesting as the theories are to speculate about, all this piece does is drop suggestion after suggestion like it is some sort of book teaser. Unfortunately, none of these suggestions connect and mostly contradict one another.

“I first interviewed Richard C. Hoagland on my public radio show “Mind Over Matters” in 1992. At the time he had been combing through many NASA photographs which showed the weird anomalies that are apparently all over the moon’s surface”

What anomalies? Is there such a thing as a “normal” anomaly?

Nameless

You should have interviewed Don Ecker instead.
At least he doesn’t photoshop the shit out of his photographs.

Richard Hoagland is just plain nutz.. However, since 8th grade I was under the impression that there was a base on the moon. At the very least there is ancient structures and remains from other civilizations. The original NASA audio tapes proved that the astronauts did see structures there which could not be explained away. I also like to look at the moon mosaics and see the airbrushing, it means they really are trying to hide something. So for me, there is proof something is up there, I just don’t know what specifically.

jon

Isn’t this Hoagland guy the same guy who claimed comet Elenin was a pyramid from another world to share a wealth of unknown knowledge?

BrianApocalypse

Yes, him. He made a massive deal out of Elenin and when nothing happend just brushed it under the carpet like he never said anything.

Calypso_1

Hoagland would claim that corn nuggets in his poo were hyperdimensional space gems.

Gotta say, I always chuckle at people who read posts like this one and use it to question disinfo’s “credibility”. WTF do you even mean by credibility? Disinfo has always been about the cray-cray, the occult, the weird, the unpopular and the unproveable. It’s up to us as the readers to “see the fnords” as it were. Active, engaged reading and critical thinking, not passive acceptance of facts. Dig?

Jack In Box

Have any of you tried to Reverse Engineer any Nasa Photos yourselves to see if there’s really nothing there?

Indrid C.

“Reverse Engineer” a photo? I don’t think those words mean what you think they mean.
Regardless, there would be no reason to cover up stuff in a photo; you could just make an entirely fake one with nothing in it. Probably got the technology FROM THE ALIENS.

simon hoare

I think that people that ‘ Vow’ To do something have no real idea what the word means . . ….

moongrim69

I’ve noticed from Hoaglund, over the years, a complete lack of interest to do anything resembling actual work.

IF, and only IF there are said anomalies on the Moon, then such should still be observable even now. Especially now- what with the the advances in technology in photo optics and computer controller imagery.
To wit- ante up Hoaglund! Purchase yourself a fine telescope that can be found in the pages of any science magazine ads and start spending a lot of sleepless nights doing some actual research, and documentation of every ‘anomaly’ you actually observe.
Take R-277 and run with it. After all- you too could start seeing ‘anomalies’.

Or would that take away too much of your time that could be better spent griping about what the Big Bad Boogyman (N.A.S.A.) isn’t doing?

Liquidself

Well here it is. There has been robot mining going on on the “dark” (far_+) side of the moon. We didn’t make these robots. The answer is actually so mind numbingly prosaic as to be stupefying. I recently read an article which claimed that ” there are no minerals worth processing on the moon…”. Ridiculous.

Established Poster

I just researched this for about 30 minutes and agree with you guys. Screw those guys who don’t agree with us. Right guys?

https://twitter.com/#!/MiddleAmericaMS MiddleAmericaMS

I was a fan of Hoagland for years, but he sees anomalies way too often in tons of photos where no one else sees them, then says you have to be a trained photo analyst to see them (even though they’re enhanced).

On rare occasion he does come up with something interesting, but most of the time its just nothing. Then he invents wild theories that are way way way out there, even for conspiracy theories. He’s fun if you don’t take him too seriously, but many do.

Take him with a grain of salt, but who knows? He may find something amazing.

Peter Turner

I have found many anomalous object’s on the moon,but especially mars.I made a facebook page to show my pic’s (Satellite Imagery of our Solar System).I use nasa’s version of ‘google earth’, “World wide telescope”