I might be missing something, but I have a team who won in OT and they were not credited in the Win ("W") column. And while I was able to get the correct "OTL" (OT Loss) column to show the other team's loss, they are not credited with the 1 point for the OTL.

So for hockey, a Win OR an Overtime Win = 2 points and the win is added to the original Win column, not a separate OT Win column. Unless I'm doing something wrong, this may not be working correctly -- looks like the points are working, but not the correct column (as an OT win is not adding a win to the Win column).

But for an OT Loss, you get 1 point and it DOES go in its own separate OT Loss column. The column here appears to work correctly, but not the OT loser getting their 1 point -- is there somewhere to set that which I missed? I see under the Project > Competition tab that I have 2,1,0 for both "Regular points" and "Points after extra time" -- is there something here for OT Losses getting 1 point?

I read your story but dont know what to change yet, because its not really clear for me

CURRENTLY is:when you win, W=1when you loose, L=1when you WOT, WOT=1 , no W=1when you LOT, LOT=1, no L=1when you WSO, WSO=1 , no W=1when you LSO, LSO=1, no L=1

BUT LIKE I ASKED BEFORE, should it be like:when you win, W=1when you loose, L=1when you WOT, WOT=1 , and W=1 ?when you LOT, LOT=1, and L=1 ?when you WSO, WSO=1 , and W=1 ?when you LSO, LSO=1, and L=1 ?

Yeah, I set that way back when hockey OTL stats were scheduled for v1.6 (so I was going to try to use ties/draws as a workaround for giving an OT loser 1 point). But that never quite panned out, and looks like this feature was moved up from 1.6 to 1.54 a couple months ago. Looks like I missed the boat for that testing, but I'd be happy to help out now if I can.

It should be:

when you win, W=1 (CURRENTLY CORRECT)

when you lose, L=1 (CURRENTLY CORRECT)

when you WOT, WOT=1, and W=1(CURRENTLY INCORRECT - an OT Win should also count as a Win)

when you LOT, LOT=1, no L=1 (CURRENTLY CORRECT)

when you WSO, WSO=1, and W=1(CURRENTLY INCORRECT - a Shootout Win should also count as a Win)

when you LSO, LSO=1, and LOT=1, but no L=1 (CURRENTLY INCORRECT - the "LSO=1" and "no L=1" that you have now are correct, but a LSO also qualifies as an OT Loss, so it ALSO needs LOT=1).

So a win is a win, whether it's in regulation time, OT, or SO. No matter what, you still get a "W" and 2 points. In the rankings:W or WOT or WSO = 2 pointsL = 0 pointsLOT or LSO = 1 point (where can this be set?)

timoline wrote:Hi, well lets work in this you can set:(I set drawpoints = 0 ?)-regular points -> 2,0,0-Points after extra time [OT] -> 2,0,1-Points after penalty shootout [SO]->-> 2,0,1

This worked great, thanks! I'm now getting the correct point totals for W-L-OTL in my rankings.

For future reference, what exactly do those three comma-separated numbers mean? 2,0,0 = 2 points for a win in regulation time... 0 points for a draw after regulation time... 0 points for a loss after regulation time? I think I got it, but just want to make sure -- I may re-word this in a "hockey language" extension to be more clear for those of us more familiar with hockey terminology.

timoline wrote:Another question, you think this WOT/LOT/WSO/LSO calculation (not points calculation) is only for hockey , or more sports

Off the top of my head I think it might only be for hockey. But I'm not really familiar with soccer or rugby or other sports where it might be the same. I'm pretty sure the 1 point for an OT Loss is unique to hockey (which you already have in there)... I would think that most sports with overtime would also be WOT = W, where a win is a win no matter whether it's in regulation or OT, and then each sport may just be unique in how it tallies those points.

I've tested the updated point system, and so far it all looks good. I added an OTL column to my rankings -- looks like I'm getting the correct OTL when the team loses in Overtime OR a Shootout, as it should be... they are not given a loss, as it should be... they ARE given the correct 1 point... and the winner is getting a "W" (and 2 points) whether it's in regulation, OT, or SO.

I'll try a few more test scenarios just to change it up and make sure. And I also wondered about playing with some formulas for the rankings, like "Regulation + Overtime Wins" ("ROW" column, which counts all Wins excluding Shootout Wins to be used for tiebreaking purposes... i.e. W-WSO=ROW... did I see somewhere to create formulas for the rankings, or was that just for personal stats?) -- but that's not a big deal, and from what I can tell, looks like it's working great. Thanks for your work on this!

Sorry for digging up this thread again. But exactly what was changed because of MOVs wishes is my problem now. Actually the system in Switzerland is like it was in this files at the begin:

You get 3 points for a win in regular time; but only 2 points for a win in overtime or shootout. So an overtime win is not a win in this case. The points are not the problem 'cause i can set them myself. But now everytime a team wins in overtime the ranking says it is an overtime win AS WELL as a normal win.

hmm, hard to tell,(I mean I know whats changed)Maybe someone (like you) tell exactly whats needed in every situation, then maybe its possible to create this feature for everybody's needs, Its hard to solve for an outsider...

Well I actually dont know how complicated the whole joomleague system really is, but I think complicated enough. So you think there is no possibility to change this on my local files? If it would be just some lines in a file maybe i could manage that when I knew where it is set..