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Five days after Rolling Stone broke the news about Kamala Harris’ new VoteSafe Act of 2020, designed to give states $5 billion to expand voter security and access to ballots in this year’s general election, the junior U.S. senator from California and member of the Senate Intelligence Committee joined me for a wide-ranging interview.

Harris, who I profiled last year during her presidential candidacy, spoke about her bill, as well as the coronavirus pandemic’s disproportionate impact on black Americans, the pressing need to protect small businesses, and the role of the vice presidency, since she is often mentioned as a potential running mate for presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden. The senator also had some sharp words for President Trump regarding his incompetent response to the coronavirus crisis. “He knew. He knew,” she said regarding the president receiving advance warnings about the possible severity of the pandemic. “We could talk about ‘We knew.’ He knew!’ ”

However, when asked what her Democratic Party can do to reassure voters in this moment, Harris again brought up the election in November. “It’s critical,” she said. “We’ve got a president of the United States who is so obsessed with what is in his personal best interest … to the pain and the demise of the people who he is in office to represent. So, we need a new president. There is no question about that.”