This is a discussion on VPN, to use or not to use, thats the question... within the online poker forums, in the Online Poker section; Residents the australian continent cannot play poker. Is it possible to get around the ban by using special software?

If you read the T and C you will most likely find that deal with it very badly, even going as far as banning the account and keeping the money! (dont know this for a fact, but have read about some of it on PS atleast).

#3

September 12th, 2017, 4:25 PM

pokerfishnet

Posts: 21

VPN, to use or not to use, thats the question...

(one last try, now with maybe a more engaging "tiltle")

Hello, pokernauts!

Here is the reason of "the question".
I live in a country where poker online as to much strict laws not allowing me to play in the sites that offer better deals and with a good enough player pool. So for what I know I have two options: leave my country or use a vpn. I searched a lot about the use of vpn for poker online and i didnt found something that really assured that it was safe so i started to look for countries where i could move to. The thing is that i have 2 little children and of course i dont want to leave them even if it is "only" for 2 years, which is the maximum i think i would stay abroad.

Given this, I want to give it a try again to the use of vpn or something else that works to be able to stay in my country close to my children.

So, can you give me some kind of support about this telling me trough here or personal message what you know through experience that works or doesnt work?

Thanks in advance!

#4

September 12th, 2017, 4:31 PM

kozong

Online Poker at: Home

Game: Freerolls

Posts: 1,096

using VPN to play internet poker is not a wise choice IMO

most popular sites forbid it IIRC, relocation is the better choice im afraid

#5

September 12th, 2017, 5:15 PM

paipingprung

Poker at: Poker stars

Posts: 170

Verification verification verification

#6

September 12th, 2017, 10:33 PM

Melbell

Posts: 464

Most sites have rules about VPN, and also if you live in a strict county the sites you want may not offer you service in those areas anyway

#7

September 13th, 2017, 12:04 AM

sryulaw

Poker at: Pokerstars

Game: Holdem

Posts: 916

re: Poker & VPN, to use or not to use, thats the question...

I think it's possible, yes, the problem is how long you could use VPN to circumvent the system! difficult situation friend

#8

September 13th, 2017, 12:12 AM

MikeCarasone

Online Poker at: ACR

Game: Holdem

Posts: 474

It's a big risk if you win and they confiscate your funds. The sites must have software designed to detect such behavior.

#9

September 13th, 2017, 12:15 AM

Diegol

Game: Hold'em

Posts: 484

Yes ir's possible players like papigto(joey Ingram) do it from time to time in the USA

#10

September 13th, 2017, 1:11 AM

TheNutz4You

Online Poker at: ACR/BETONLIN

Game: NLHE

Posts: 1,466

it's possible, but not worth the chance of losing all your funds in the account if you are caught.

#11

September 13th, 2017, 12:36 PM

Vilgeoforc

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: 8-game

Posts: 427

Yeah. So it's possible. I am interested in the precedent. How rooms relate to caught players? Freeze all funds or part? Prohibit access to the game? Or transmit information to the authorities? I think Australian players would be interested.

#12

September 13th, 2017, 1:03 PM

paipingprung

Online Poker at: Poker stars

Posts: 170

Originally Posted by Vilgeoforc

Yeah. So it's possible. I am interested in the precedent. How rooms relate to caught players? Freeze all funds or part? Prohibit access to the game? Or transmit information to the authorities? I think Australian players would be interested.

I just keep the bare minimum in my account, using an e-wallet as a middle man..I do 10-12 transactions a week..

Ps. It's 100% legal to play online poker in the united states, it's also 100% legal to use a vpn to access poker sites that don't except usa players.
TOA to play is a different story.

#13

September 13th, 2017, 1:23 PM

Zorba

Game: nudetwister

Posts: 34,376

Originally Posted by Vilgeoforc

Residents the australian continent cannot play poker. Is it possible to get around the ban by using special software?

I'm in Australia and I am still playing online poker at sites that are still offering services and will continue to offer services, the only sites that have pulled out are 888 Poker, Party Poker, and Poker Stars.

To play using a VPN with sites that don't offer services will not work when it comes time to withdraw.

#14

September 13th, 2017, 1:25 PM

redmast

Posts: 928

re: Poker & VPN, to use or not to use, thats the question...

You will not succeed. The politics of poker rooms adhere to the laws. They have software that you will find. If not immediately, then later. There is one idea, but it is untested and probably will be difficult.If through your computer and the Internet beat home and manage (there is such a function in Windows) and play on another computer that is in another country. The difficulty in starting and maintaining another computer. Here, relatives or friends can help. The idea may seem crazy to you. You decide.

#15

September 14th, 2017, 3:50 PM

Vilgeoforc

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: 8-game

Posts: 427

Originally Posted by Zorba

I'm in Australia and I am still playing online poker at sites that are still offering services and will continue to offer services, the only sites that have pulled out are 888 Poker, Party Poker, and Poker Stars.

To play using a VPN with sites that don't offer services will not work when it comes time to withdraw.

If you play on Pokerstars for money, and the ban is already in force, means the room is breaking the law or he is given time to deal with the players? How are you going to play next?

#16

September 14th, 2017, 7:18 PM

SlavaUa

Online Poker at: Poker Stars

Game: Holdem

Posts: 1,057

Originally Posted by Axboy

If you read the T and C you will most likely find that deal with it very badly, even going as far as banning the account and keeping the money! (dont know this for a fact, but have read about some of it on PS atleast).

Thank you i also do not know about it, but never use VPN)))

#17

September 14th, 2017, 9:54 PM

paipingprung

Poker at: Poker stars

Posts: 170

One time I was in new jersey at the borgata and when I tried to log on to partynj I got a pop up saying they detect a vpn contact support..
So I assume there is vpn detection software

#18

September 14th, 2017, 11:03 PM

C3H6S

Online Poker at: pokerstars

Game: nl holdem

Posts: 326

i dont think a be good idea...pokerstar banned

#19

September 16th, 2017, 2:57 PM

paipingprung

Poker at: Poker stars

Posts: 170

I think this is a case of the site programmed in certain common ISPs and blocked them.
It's biwin and I tried several ISPs and they all came up blocked..so what they've done I assume is block all the addressses in this VPN

#20

September 16th, 2017, 4:15 PM

pokerfishnet

Posts: 21

I think this is a case of the site programmed in certain common ISPs and blocked them.
It's biwin and I tried several ISPs and they all came up blocked..so what they've done I assume is block all the addressses in this VPN

Which vpn service(s) you tried?

#21

September 16th, 2017, 7:55 PM

Pokerguy6666

Poker at: Party Poker

Game: holdem

Posts: 590

re: Poker & VPN, to use or not to use, thats the question...

I would definitely not use a VPN.

#22

September 18th, 2017, 8:15 PM

pokerfishnet

Posts: 21

I think this is a case of the site programmed in certain common ISPs and blocked them.
It's biwin and I tried several ISPs and they all came up blocked..so what they've done I assume is block all the addressses in this VPN

@paipingprung [87], which vpn(s) service(s) you tried in bwin?

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#23

September 18th, 2017, 10:49 PM

canabero

Poker at: 888poker

Posts: 944

sure that you'll have problems when you they ask documents to verify you could play but to withdraw it looks very hard, plus poker rooms are always trying to find an excuse to not paying you.

Don't VPN as you will get caught and they will ban from that room. You may have to play live poker instead.

#26

September 19th, 2017, 10:35 AM

fa1920

Online Poker at: All sites

Game: Holdem

Posts: 711

If it is possible in softwares not so recognized, in pokerstars I do not recommend it

#27

September 24th, 2017, 5:11 PM

Rational Madman

Poker at: PokerStars

Game: HE NL always

Posts: 2,479

I pay for 2 year hotspot shield service (so cheap if u pay the 2 year package). Lets me view some netflix stuff etc from other country or who knows what else I can do.

Look, I am just saying, it is possible to use and hotspot shield best prices for decent service. On the other hand, your bank account, the one that they pay TO when you take money out is where you will get caught. You can deposit anonymously but you can't take money out anonymously and that is how they catch you. They read their outgoing finances and compare to the country the account is in.

#28

September 25th, 2017, 6:19 AM

Zorba

Game: nudetwister

Posts: 34,376

re: Poker & VPN, to use or not to use, thats the question...

Originally Posted by Vilgeoforc

If you play on Pokerstars for money, and the ban is already in force, means the room is breaking the law or he is given time to deal with the players? How are you going to play next?

If you read my post correctly you would have seen that I am no longer playing at Poker Stars, 888, and Party.

There are still many sites offering services to Aussies.

#29

September 25th, 2017, 8:31 AM

Vilgeoforc

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: 8-game

Posts: 427

Originally Posted by Zorba

If you read my post correctly you would have seen that I am no longer playing at Poker Stars, 888, and Party.

There are still many sites offering services to Aussies.

Now it is clear. I thought that you continue to play on PS.

#30

September 25th, 2017, 10:20 AM

tysfm

Online Poker at: SB

Posts: 35

I wouldn't. Many games use software that identifies proxies and VPNs by IP. You might succeed by using a cheap VPS for a VPN, or a remote desktop located in the state. There are some VPNs like HMA that shut off an app's access to the Internet if the VPN goes down. And you can hook up your VPN to a Tomato or DD-WRT router. It's still a risky proposition.

#31

September 25th, 2017, 12:32 PM

AndreyS

Poker at: PokerStars

Game: holdem

Posts: 78

Hi. I installed an Open VPN server on a hosting service of different countries to bypass restrictions. I had problems at 888 - account was blocked and support asked to verify my identity. After sending the scan of the passport and the check for utility payments all again earned. Pokerstars and Partypoker everything was fine. But I would not risk using public services VPN, since their IP addresses can be entered in the database of poker rooms and can be blocked.

#32

September 25th, 2017, 12:33 PM

doom

Online Poker at: 888 poker

Game: holdem

Posts: 503

yes but then better use cryptocurrency for deposit withdraw

#33

September 26th, 2017, 8:42 PM

Sherzod

Poker at: pokerstars

Game: holdem

Posts: 13

There are also many free VPN services, but I don't trust them.Much better to play whith out it!!!IMO

#34

September 27th, 2017, 4:55 AM

Rational Madman

Online Poker at: PokerStars

Game: HE NL always

Posts: 2,479

You guys still don't get it... When you pull money out of your pokerstars account or 888 account or whatever it pays TO A SPECIFIC ACCOUNT IN A COUNTRY and this is how they can tell where you really live. The only reason to ever use a VPN is if your bank account is in the same country your VPN is rerouting through. That can successfully trick a poker site.

No other method will work.

#35

October 1st, 2017, 5:50 PM

pokerfishnet

Posts: 21

re: Poker & VPN, to use or not to use, thats the question...

Hi. I installed an Open VPN server on a hosting service of different countries to bypass restrictions. I had problems at 888 - account was blocked and support asked to verify my identity. After sending the scan of the passport and the check for utility payments all again earned. Pokerstars and Partypoker everything was fine. But I would not risk using public services VPN, since their IP addresses can be entered in the database of poker rooms and can be blocked.

Hi!

Can you tell me how one can install an open vpn like you mentioned?
And about the problem with 888, you fixed it? And if so, how? You were able to give proof of residence from the country of the vpn? And if so, how?
Do you think poker rooms also can discover dedicated ips?