A good arguement except for the fact that you are wrong about one thing. The "fact" that it is based on is still THEORETICAL SCIENCE. All based on
theory.

And our theories and beliefs don't belong in this thread. It has nothing to do with the topic.

[edit on 4-4-2009 by Anuubis]

I don't want to get too far off topic but you've dragged it there by posting erroneous information.
Yes it's based on THEORETICAL SCIENCE. You're absolutely correct. Unfortunately I need to explain the definition of THEORETICAL SCIENCE to you.
Here's a wonderful definition for you to choke on

In science, a theory is not a guess, not a hunch. It's a well-substantiated, well-supported, well-documented explanation for our observations.2
It ties together all the facts about something, providing an explanation that fits all the observations and can be used to make predictions. In
science, theory is the ultimate goal, the explanation. It's as close to proven as anything in science can be.

Thanks for agreeing with me

Remember, you said it, "it's based on THEORETICAL SCIENCE". Your own words

Ultimately caves would only be good to hide or for shelter from the elements. Nothing more.

If you were to start a fire for heat, do so near the entrance and don't start a large fire at first. Start a small fire and slowly increase the
amount of wood so the fire heats up slowly thus heating up the rock in the cave ceiling slowly. If you heat up the cave too quickly, you can risk a
cave in or at the very least, rocks falling from the ceiling.

12 feet of earth will shield from all radiation. However it will not protect from radioactive fallout in air and water.

I don't think 12 feet of earth will protect you from a neutron bomb. Neutrons neutral charge allow them to pass easily through dense matter, and lead
is useless as a neutron shield.

Neutrons have an affinity for things with high hydrogen content, like water and human bodies.

On the bright side, most of the direct exposure to radioactive materials which are the secondary killer after the initial burst, occurs to people out
in the open, in the form of an ash fall. Don't go out for the first three days.
Wait for a rain before going out, drink only bottled water. When you do start to drink the water again, filter it through charcoal filters.

Originally posted by Cyberbian
12 feet of earth will shield from all radiation. However it will not protect from radioactive fallout in air and water.

I don't think 12 feet of earth will protect you from a neutron bomb. Neutrons neutral charge allow them to pass easily through dense matter, and lead
is useless as a neutron shield.

Neutrons have an affinity for things with high hydrogen content, like water and human bodies.

On the bright side, most of the direct exposure to radioactive materials which are the secondary killer after the initial burst, occurs to people out
in the open, in the form of an ash fall. Don't go out for the first three days.
Wait for a rain before going out, drink only bottled water. When you do start to drink the water again, filter it through charcoal filters.

Stay out of the ash fall.

[edit on 4-4-2009 by Cyberbian]

Actually the most lethal part of a nuclear detonation is the release of Gamma radiation. No natural matter can block it and it's devastating to
living tissue.

Are caves safe? Probably not. Are they potentially safer than being outside of the cave in some type of major disaster? Quite possibly.

As with anything, weigh the risks and benefits. I, for one, would rather take the chance that a cave might collapse upon me and trap me 100 feet
inside than sit in my house with radioactive fallout falling 10 feet away outside the walls, for example.

depends on the kind of cave and cave material, i know of a few here in north eastern pennsylvania made out of a quartz like granite that are more like
giant boulders that fell in the right spots to form caves rather than actual underground networks but some of them are actually mildly deep and i wont
go in them unless i have a sidearm because of the very acute animal musk smell eminating from them but i do have a very shallow one to serve as a last
resort on the literal top of the low mnt's here

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