“Every politician cites education as his or her top issue, but we’ve really given a lot more rhetoric and a lot more verbosity to it than we have any action,” Ford said.

Bold TV’s David Grasso caught up with Ford at Anthony Scaramucci’s SALT Conference and asked him what he thinks of the current “socialism versus capitalism” debate that has sprouted due to policies like free college and the Green New Deal. Ford told Bold TV that he does think capitalism should be “reimagine[d] and reinvent[ed],” but he said he doesn’t think Medicare for all or the Green New Deal are the right answers.

Ford said, “It’s important for those of us who have differences with those policies — we gotta offer better ones. We gotta offer ones that are more appealing without just saying ‘you’re a socialist,’ without engaging in the name-calling both sides are unfortunately enormously guilty of.”