i dont think the job is *** i think the af is kinda feminan and let me be clear i have nothing against *** people i believe that they should be able to get married and all of that fun stuff but SE really should have added a more gender neutral job.

i dont think the job is *** i think the af is kinda feminan and let me be clear i have nothing against *** people i believe that they should be able to get married and all of that fun stuff but SE really should have added a more gender neutral job.

i prefer dancer job to look *** "something like Pup af" rather then erotic

im already gonna have nightmares of peoples stupid dance macro and all the manthra saying their hawt and l33t and stupid people who gonna be saying "omfg mithra are so hawt when they dance they gonna make me bust a nut"

those are gonna #1 thing people will be thinking of dancer and theirs no #2 thing because #1 is gonna be so big of a problem #2 will be forgoten in the first sec of the job coming out

Considering, most of the people, as I said, WERE indeed NA players, it's safe to say, there's some hidden standard with NA gamers where things will look "***" or will "not look ***".

And where is your research that shows that most of these people are NA? Regardless, your blanket statement does not hold up. There are a fair number of posters in this thread that are NA and defending dancer and not having to be *** to play it, including myself.

Considering, most of the people, as I said, WERE indeed NA players, it's safe to say, there's some hidden standard with NA gamers where things will look "***" or will "not look ***".

And where is your research that shows that most of these people are NA? Regardless, your blanket statement does not hold up. There are a fair number of posters in this thread that are NA and defending dancer and not having to be *** to play it, including myself.

Exactly why I said, most, and not all, now did I? Again, think before you post.

Exactly why I said, most, and not all, now did I? Again, think before you post.

In this thread, most support it. Actually, I would say its safe to say, the largest portion of this site is from NA and I don't think that atleast 51% of them are going around saying Dancer is ***. When a forum is dominated by one group, its going to seem like there's a larger amount of them bashing something, even though they dominate the other group that's supporting it and make up an equally dominate group in the pro side. I'm not failing to think before I post. you're failing to see the larger picture and being very narrow minded in your approach and stereotyping.

Hmmm, I didn't think Pup looked ***, a bit weird, but not ***. As for BRD AF, it doesn't look like anything to me, in fact, I wish it had more of a "Wandering Minstrel" type deal, but meh. And I've never looked at WHM AF and thought "***", it's White and RED, not white and PINK, RED, like BLOOD. lol People call DRG AF ***, I don't know why, where I come from, purple = pimp... I don't have a problem with weird outfits, I'm a renaissance man. Not saying I go to renaissance fairs and dress up that way, but I do enjoy the culture and understand it, and don't freak out about it. I have no problem with outfits, unless they look REALLY weird. Like an above post about a male dancer looking like a matadore, all cool, but you have those things coming out of your head... Or like, a man wearing a Speedo thong, it just... doesn't look right. I like the way certain Japanese bands look when they look all effeminate and whatever, weird, but not TOO weird. Bishounen, I think they're called. Anyway, I'm NA and Bisexual >.>

ok, I have a deep belief that SE will hear the cries of the mass's...believing that Dancer will be ***, and in an effort to make another job more MANLY have decided to go ahead and disclose the next new job,it will be SO.....PIMP they will come with theyre own vehicle,to mow over the mobs, yes thats right here comes the Trash Man,with all new JA's like Circle of Repulsion, which is AOE disgust where all mobs start to puke HP, wait, theres more, JA Stinkfist, a POWERFUL H2H attack that leaves a smell that devours HP.

and last not but not least a whole new armor set that includes a dirty raggedy t-shirt, that boosts CHR, and dirty ripped up jeans, that not only look cool and smell bad, but boost Offence..

and because we know how important abbreviations are, i simplified that as well...we will be known as TRM.... HMMMM now THATS FUNNY...

I bet that the af for males is modified. They have to know how scared American males are of looking effeminate.

it's not really a question of being "scared". not every man in america is homophobic or scared of their feminine sides as you seem to be implying.

some of us just aren't into dressing up as chicks is all. even virtually. which is why i really doubt i'll be playing dancer, if i'm even playing ffxi at all when the expansion is released.

as far as Dancer AF looking "***" i think a couple people in this thread need to realize that the term "***" has become (for better or worse) part of our cultural discourse and does not always mean "homosexual" or "happy" anymore.

can i know? the moment a guy plays this he will be branded *** and from that point on all *** people can hit on him freely and w/o fear for he is ***.

as long as i'm telling people what i think of them, you're also pretty retarded.

now it's one thing to have issue with a new job whose gear seems gender-biased. it understandably limits the choices of players who prefer their avatars to exist within the traditional boundaries of gender.

but the statement you just made is 100% classic homophobia and honestly makes you sound like you're afraid that deep down, maybe, just maybe, you like the ****.