Wait, you can object to those class action settlements and get paid to withdraw your objection so the big defendant can get off light and the class plaintiff lawyer can get a big payday? Where do I sign up for this brilliant form of parasitizing the parasites?

Well I guess when your earnings take a hit from the Copyright Troll game, it's always nice to have another way to make some quick cash, and apparently being an objector in a class action is a good way to make up those much need funds.

I guess one scheme is as good as another when your looking to score some easy cash. The fact that they got hung out to dry in the one instance I am where of was when they were looking for a 30k donation ( and I used the word donation loosely ) to drop their objection to another class settlement and the lawyer involved on the other side called them out for it as did the Judge over seeing that case as well.

Much like the Prenda saga, these guys seem to have all sorts schemes to get easy cash, and even though they have been chastised in class actions and in the copyright trolling cases they show no real signs of stopping any of their activities, of course this is my opinion but sure seems like an accurate perception of things.

Does Hansmeier have any objector to a class action that isn't related to anyone involved with Prenda law? If I recall right this Padraigin Browne is his wife? Wasn't she his so called "client" in the 30k shakedown -er- I mean objector in the other class action settlement, I am sure this was the case.

Does anyone know by chance how long they have been Objectors in the class action lawsuit game. I have a funnt feeling this is not just the second one, and they may have been doing this for sometime (of course this is just my opinion)

The gall these guys have to keep on participating in activities that in my opinion are questionable seems to know no bounds, and it seems that the more you peel the onion back the more it stinks.

If I also recall right wasn't Gibbs involved in that earlier class action with the 30k demand as well? I could swear I read that.

Why does it seem the usual cast of characters keep popping up in these various cases, as much as they all seem to say, "well I know nothing of this", and "don't know that person" or "have any history with such and such", it always seems to be that no matter where you look they are all entangled together in some capacity.

I really do have to wonder just how many class action suits they have been Objectors in when they involve large settlements. There must be a way to find out through some filing or through the filed documents to the payees of class action settlements.

I would suffice to guess in my opinion that this little money making venture has been going on quite a while and that they have been using this objector status to ring up some quick cash to not file an objection.

Of course this is a little bit speculation and opinion on my part but I wouldn't doubt the class action settlement objector and the copyright troll game have been their only avenues of money generation, I am sure there are more that we aren't aware of just yet.

I am amazed the way these guys operate, it almost seems like they know every way possible to make a quick buck..my opinion of course

The pain begins here. Now we get to see the impotent whining as they lose the ability to use the courts as intimidation tools. Fines and sanctions won't stop these asshats, losing their law licenses will.

Wait, you can object to those class action settlements and get paid to withdraw your objection so the big defendant can get off light and the class plaintiff lawyer can get a big payday? Where do I sign up for this brilliant form of parasitizing the parasites?

Maybe he should have tried the "California judges are crazy so you should ignore Judge Wright's orders" defense before the 9th circuit. Of course, said circuit does cover California so it probably wouldn't have played out well there either.

It is great to see the sanctions having immediate consequences, it restores some faith in the judge system.

I'll be the first to admit that I didn't know how the 9th Circuit would respond to Judge Wright's sanctions on these clowns, but damn, this is awesome.

I believe that the 9th Circuit Court where they filed there appeal has denied Paul Hasmeier's request for an emergency stay of Judge Wright's order. See Below

Courtesy of Jim Tyre: ( in his comment at Popehat)

Before: O’SCANNLAIN and CALLAHAN, Circuit Judges.

Appellant's emergency motion for a stay of the district court’s May 6, 2013 sanctions order is denied without prejudice to renewal, if necessary, upon the filing and disposition of such request in the district court. See Fed. R. App. P. 8(a)(1).

Part of me was hoping for a longer order explaining why they were denying the request. But I still take satisfaction with just a straight up short and sweet "denied" order.

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I'm hoping we soon get to see some actions against Steele. He seems to be the one who truly organized all members involved, and really got the wheels rolling.

Well the $81k is due very shortly now, and all the participants are on the hook jointly and separately for it, including Steele. I'm guessing that if he is the ultimate mastermind behind this, all the rest of them are looking at him to pay up. They might be going cannibal on themselves in short order, now that they're seriously required to write a check.

So I see in a comment at Popehat that Padraigin Browne is Paul Hansmeier’s wife: ( the proposed client who Paul Hansmeier was trying to file a notice of objection in the Groupon settlement which is what this story is about )

How damaging is appealing to the wrong court to one's professional reputation?

Who does the assclown blame for the failure of that bit of procedural brilliance?

They appealed to the right court. The appeals court just denied the motion, and told him that he could ask Judge Wright to review his own order. Basically, the appeals court didn't find anything procedurally wrong with what Wright did. So if Prenda wants a delay in having to pay, they're going to have to convince Wright. And yeah, good luck with that one.

"...denied without prejudice to renewal, if necessary, upon the filing and disposition of such request in the district court..." means the appellate court denied the motion because it should have been filed with the lower court and ruled upon there, before being filed with the appellate court."

IANAL and please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that's saying the motion was denied because it should have been filed with the district court first and ruled upon there before being filed with the appellate court. Once it has been propertly filed and ruled upon by the district court, the motion can then be renewed, if necessary, with the appellate court.

The way I read it, the denial wasn't based on the merits of the request at all, but rather on following proper procedures for filing the motion in the first place.

How damaging is appealing to the wrong court to one's professional reputation?

Who does the assclown blame for the failure of that bit of procedural brilliance?

They appealed to the right court. The appeals court just denied the motion, and told him that he could ask Judge Wright to review his own order. Basically, the appeals court didn't find anything procedurally wrong with what Wright did. So if Prenda wants a delay in having to pay, they're going to have to convince Wright. And yeah, good luck with that one.

No, no, they went one level too high. They need to ask the district court first. For a last minute EMERGENCY filing, major blunder.

How damaging is appealing to the wrong court to one's professional reputation?

Who does the assclown blame for the failure of that bit of procedural brilliance?

They appealed to the right court. The appeals court just denied the motion, and told him that he could ask Judge Wright to review his own order. Basically, the appeals court didn't find anything procedurally wrong with what Wright did. So if Prenda wants a delay in having to pay, they're going to have to convince Wright. And yeah, good luck with that one.

No, no, they went one level too high. They need to ask the district court first. For a last minute EMERGENCY filing, major blunder.

IIRC It was not so much a blunder as they claimed to have moved up to the higher court early because Judge Wright was being nasty to them!

How damaging is appealing to the wrong court to one's professional reputation?

Who does the assclown blame for the failure of that bit of procedural brilliance?

I would guess that was an attempt to not have to take their appeal before Judge Wright in the District Court, I am sure they knew then weren't going to have any success with it before him

Although in my hypothetical scenario of them trying to appeal before him for a stay, Judge Wright falls out of his chair and starts rolling around on the floor laughing hysterically along with everyone in the gallery and then after the 10 minutes of hilarity he slams his gavel down and say's "DENIED"

Of course we then see the Prenda gang out front of the court house hats in hand asking people for spare change!

Two appellate judges signed this order, and it gives Hansmeier the option to make a plea for delay with the district court judge. That would be US District Judge Otis Wright, the judge who sanctioned Hansmeier in the first place.

Ha-ha! It's always fun to see judges display a keen sense of humor, though I imagine the joy of this joke is lost on Hansmeier, et al. There is also something profoundly poetic in watching scum-ball, racketeering lawyers meet unseemly ends--something really exhilarating about watching their relentless drives toward self-destruction. It's like watching salmon swim upstream only to die, and sobering to think these people aren't salmon!

Part of me was hoping for a longer order explaining why they were denying the request. But I still take satisfaction with just a straight up short and sweet "denied" order.

Actually, the explaination is there, if you know how to read between the judicial lines.

The 9th Circuit told Hammy, "You have to ask for the stay from the District Court (Wright) first. If he doesn't give you one, then, and ~only~ then, can you come ask us."

Which is why they also said "without prejudice".

Does the 9th Circuit expect Wright to stay the fines/penalties? No idea. All they're doing here is saying that he has to go through the (required) step of asking there, before he's allowed to appeal to them.

They're doing this because they don't want to see their workload increased unnecessarily.

How I wonder what the Prenda gang will do, there request for an emergency stay having been denied and they only have till the end of today to pay the Sanctions order.

I am going to believe they will follow in the steps of another famous copyright troll Steve Gibson and Righthaven. If you recall some of the RIghthaven case they were fined 5k in a sanction motion and I believe to date they have not paid that sanction order from that Las Vegas Judge.

I would think much like Righthaven, Prenda will not pay the sanction under the poverty line and let the dice roll. These guys have shown an apathy for following the Law and the courts directives and orders, so it wouldn't surprise me at all that they would avoid paying this.

I guess we will have to watch and see if they pay up, but lord knows I wouldn't count on it. I wonder if they will go to the slammer for not paying it and following Judge Wright's order ( God, please let that be true )

How I wonder what the Prenda gang will do, there request for an emergency stay having been denied and they only have till the end of today to pay the Sanctions order.

I am going to be the will follow in the steps of another famous copyright troll Steve Gibson and Righthaven. If you recall some of the RIghthaven case they were fined 5k in a sanction motion and I believe to date they have not paid that sanction order from that Las Vegas Judge.

I would think much like Righthaven, Prenda will not pay the sanction under the poverty line and let the dice roll. These guys have shown an apathy for following the Law and the courts directives and orders, so it wouldn't surprise me at all that they would avoid paying this.

I guess we will have to watch and see if they pay up, but lord knows I wouldn't count on it. I wonder if they will go to the slammer for not paying it and following Judge Wright's order ( God, please let that be true )

From what I understand, this posse rake in several hundred thousands of dollars with their industrious scheme. While not pleasant, 81K will not bankrupt any of them. The only question is just how liquid their assets in the cayman islands are.

I simply cannot believe that Hansmeier didn't see this coming. Whenever an attorney is being investigated in relation to a crime or misconduct in the state they are practicing law in, judges have removed those attorneys from any and all cases until the investigation into their alleged misconduct or crime is resolved.

Simply put, it creates not just a conflict of interest but also can be used by the plaintiffs or defendant they represent to petition for a mistrial and/or a retrial. When Judge Otis Wright referred each of the active participants in Prenda Law, it effectively rendered every individual involved in Prenda Law as impotent as an infertile man or woman.

This is going to affect everyone who is involved in Prenda Law and prevent them from bringing forth any further court cases until all matters referred by Judge Otis Wright are resolved by state and Federal courts. What's funny about this is that this affects everyone involved in Prenda's scam.

the Gaelic alphabet has if I remember right, 16 letters, c`s being hard k's and other fun foibles, listening to fluent speakers on the radio, to the non speaker, often sounds like someones had a bit too much to drink and is busily trying to get into a fight. Like language, like nationality it seems.

How damaging is appealing to the wrong court to one's professional reputation?

Who does the assclown blame for the failure of that bit of procedural brilliance?

I would guess that was an attempt to not have to take their appeal before Judge Wright in the District Court, I am sure they knew then weren't going to have any success with it before him

Although in my hypothetical scenario of them trying to appeal before him for a stay, Judge Wright falls out of his chair and starts rolling around on the floor laughing hysterically along with everyone in the gallery and then after the 10 minutes of hilarity he slams his gavel down and say's "DENIED"

Of course we then see the Prenda gang out front of the court house hats in hand asking people for spare change!

If Judge Wright really wants to be mean, he'll wait until 4:59pm to make his decision.