for all intensive purposes, every single last damn record in that book he holds is out, give them back to Price, Daughtery and Z.

Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

I hope someone else comes out wearing #23 to start next season. I don't even care who, just give someone whom they acquire #23 and move away from that turncoat. Seeing a picture of him hamming it up in a Heat jersey at that ridiculous victory parade those asses are doing down there almost made me puke.

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Swerb wrote:Go start a blog if you want to tell the world your incomprehendible ramblings.

Cerebral_DownTime wrote:I have a big arm and can throw the ball pretty damn far...... maybe even over those moutains. The Browns should sign me, i'll let you all in locker room to drink beer. Then we can all go out the parking lot to watch me do motorcycle stunts.

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For next season have clothing drives at the gates. Ask fans to bring an article of clothing to be donated to the poor in NEO. For ever person that brings in a LeBron shirt, jersey, etc they get a free pop or hot dog.

A) it is for a worthy legit cause in clothing the needyB) it is for a worthy legit cause in getting LeBron stuff out of circulation in NEO.

I am not even joking.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

LeBron finally decided to join Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh with the Miami Heat . It’s his determination,, just hope he will have a better future. The website are updating many jerseys for Lebron.For more information, just log in [url]www.jersey-boys.com

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This might be the stupidest thing ever. What's done is done. So if Neil Armstrong was the biggest asshole ever he never landed on the moon?

If I had to e-mail a suggestion to that address it would be "shake yourself"

Embarrassing sour grapes are never good.

And to answer the question, probably not in my lifetime, but with his HS # retired, his Heat number retired and a jersey in the Hall, I'm sure he'll be over not hanging next to Bobby "Bingo" Smith.

The faster you say fuck him and let it go, the better you come out of all of this. It's a forgiving world. Northeast Ohio will be the only ones that keep the hate. To claim he'll continue to be hated (if he ever was) in New York is prepostorous. He'll bounce that orange around a few times, make some astonishing dunks and passes and arenas will be filled with cats ticklin' his balls in no time.

If your hot girlfriend kicks you to the curb, that doesn't make her any less hot, and telling your boys otherwise makes you look pathetic. Saying the records never happened is pretty much the same thing.

FUDU wrote:I don't see a thread on it but I have to assume somewhere in here we are discussing/laughing at Gilbert lowering LeBron Fatheads to a price of $17.41, the birth year of Benedict Arnold.

How very droll

I love him (Gilbert not Arnold)

You should LOVE Arnold, BP...he did try to help your side win afterall.

As funny as the $17.41 IS, comparing Lejerk to Benny is a major afront to Benny's legacy. Without him we may not be the USA, and might still be worshipping a king...or a queen. He was instrumental in the Battle of Saratoga that turned the tide of the war, not to mention some other heroic deeds.

In the end, good old Benny was a victim of his own ego, some poor treatment by the higher ups in the Continental Army and of course he got involved with a woman who influenced him in a negative way...come to think of it, maybe they ARE an excellent comparison.

FUDU wrote:I don't see a thread on it but I have to assume somewhere in here we are discussing/laughing at Gilbert lowering LeBron Fatheads to a price of $17.41, the birth year of Benedict Arnold.

How very droll

I love him (Gilbert not Arnold)

You should LOVE Arnold, BP...he did try to help your side win afterall.

As funny as the $17.41 IS, comparing Lejerk to Benny is a major afront to Benny's legacy. Without him we may not be the USA, and might still be worshipping a king...or a queen. He was instrumental in the Battle of Saratoga that turned the tide of the war, not to mention some other heroic deeds.

In the end, good old Benny was a victim of his own ego, some poor treatment by the higher ups in the Continental Army and of course he got involved with a woman who influenced him in a negative way...come to think of it, maybe they ARE an excellent comparison.

Well yes

"There is but one thing of real value: to cultivate truth and justice and to live without anger in the midst of lying and unjust men"

I woke up to one of my friends bragging on facebook that he had to work this weekend. I thought it was odd until I read the rest of his status and saw he's taking down the James banner. Knowing him, my guess is that the thing gets pissed on in the process.

David St. Hubbins: I think the problem was that there was a Stonehenge monument on the stage that was in danger of being crushed- by a dwarf.Derek Smalls: Can I raise a practical question at this point? Are we gonna do "Stonehenge" tomorrow? David St. Hubbins: *NO*, we're not gonna fucking do "Stonehenge"!

I voted yes. 10-15 years down the road, no one will have touched any of his records. Right now none of us can remember past last Thursday, but time heals all wounds, and we're all gonna remember how he gave us a sports boner like no one else ever has or will.

CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:I voted yes. 10-15 years down the road, no one will have touched any of his records. Right now none of us can remember past last Thursday, but time heals all wounds, and we're all gonna remember how he gave us a sports boner like no one else ever has or will.

Yeah, time heals all wounds. Just ask Modell.

NFW this guy ends up in the rafters if the status quo extends indefinitely. Meaning something other than time passing will have to happen to help heal the wound.

The difference being that Modell was never really that well liked, whereas LeBron was loved, adored, deified, worshipped for 7 years. He contributed at least half of the moments in most of our own personal Top 10s.

CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:The difference being that Modell was never really that well liked, whereas LeBron was loved, adored, deified, worshipped for 7 years. He contributed at least half of the moments in most of our own personal Top 10s.

Sincerely,Jim Thome and his rock

Again, if you don't understand, you never did and you never will.

"The fucking Who...... If I want to watch old people run around ill go set fire to a nursing home." - CDT

No idea what that means. The understanding part, not the Thome part. Thome I dont think is a fair comparison either cuz he never really reached Top 5 favorite Indians (at least for me, he was behind Kenny, Belle, Manny, Omar, Sandy, Baerga, El Presidente, probably others).

My level of hatred for LeBron can not be measured right now. No vulgarity even exists that can describe it. But just as with the girl you loved who dumped you inspiring degrees of hatred you never thought imaginable a week earlier, yet years down the road you pine for her, that's what will ultimately happen with LeBron. Not in 5 years. But it will happen eventually.

CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:My level of hatred for LeBron can not be measured right now. No vulgarity even exists that can describe it. But just as with the girl you loved who dumped you inspiring degrees of hatred you never thought imaginable a week earlier, yet years down the road you pine for her, that's what will ultimately happen with LeBron. Not in 5 years. But it will happen eventually.

Pine for her? You're out of your mind.

Fuck that bitch. I hope her husband gets aids on a "business" trip to Tailand.

Much like with the Tribe subsequent to the departure of some of its select stars, I expect to see some roster fill rockin' #23 for the Cavs this season.

"At least the Scots didn't have to tune in with the rest of the country and watch their women get plowed by Longshanks and his men."~Commodore Perry on the difference between baseball's flawed economics : Indians :: prima nocta : Scots

CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:No idea what that means. The understanding part, not the Thome part. Thome I dont think is a fair comparison either cuz he never really reached Top 5 favorite Indians (at least for me, he was behind Kenny, Belle, Manny, Omar, Sandy, Baerga, El Presidente, probably others).

My level of hatred for LeBron can not be measured right now. No vulgarity even exists that can describe it. But just as with the girl you loved who dumped you inspiring degrees of hatred you never thought imaginable a week earlier, yet years down the road you pine for her, that's what will ultimately happen with LeBron. Not in 5 years. But it will happen eventually.

Really? Thome wasn't one of the 5 most popular Indians from that time, let alone of all time?

I know more about pizza than you. Much more in fact. - Cerebral_DownTime

Really? Thome wasn't one of the 5 most popular Indians from that time, let alone of all time?

I dont know, I gave you my personal list which would have him at best at #9. I can see you arguing a bunch of those guys, but Kenny, Omar, Manny, and Sandy are pretty much most people's concensus Top 4 from that era. At least in my circles.

CAVSTRIBEBROWNSin07! wrote:My level of hatred for LeBron can not be measured right now. No vulgarity even exists that can describe it. But just as with the girl you loved who dumped you inspiring degrees of hatred you never thought imaginable a week earlier, yet years down the road you pine for her, that's what will ultimately happen with LeBron. Not in 5 years. But it will happen eventually.

It will never happen. And the fact that LeBron was the "hometown kid" will lengthen the backlash indefinitely.

I'm in favor of the opposite. I'd wipe away any evidence of LeBron James's existence from the Cavalier record books altogether. I'd do what the White Sox do with the 1919 World Series- pretend it never happened.

Really? Thome wasn't one of the 5 most popular Indians from that time, let alone of all time?

I dont know, I gave you my personal list which would have him at best at #9. I can see you arguing a bunch of those guys, but Kenny, Omar, Manny, and Sandy are pretty much most people's concensus Top 4 from that era. At least in my circles.

Not saying I agree with it, but he'll get some kind of recognition down the road. Time will pass, people will start to feel nostaglic about that era of Cavs basketball, and it will happen.

Hell, what Thome did may have been worse and there were people who wanted him back this year when he hit FA. Sure, Thome wasn't a hometown kid, but he spent from 1989-2002 in the Indians organization. The team had a chance to trade him, he balked and gave every indication that he'd return, and had exchanged parameters of an extension. Then the Phillies swoop in, make a stupid offer for an extra year, his wife is his rock and he's gone. No legit compensation for the Indians, only 2 compensatory picks (turned into Brad Snyder and Adam Miller).

Maybe it was just me. I felt just as angry when Thome left as I did on Thursday night. I'm not going to force anyone to go over that debate again because I'm sure all of you have had it, but my personal reaction to it was similar. FTR, if the front office didn't want him back then they should have just traded him.

Reason it rang true for me was that he, like James now, claimed the move was about "winning", which was not really true. It was about the extra guaranteed money, just like James' move was done so that Wade can carry him to some titles. Entirely their right to move on, just don't blow smoke up our asses about it.