SA did have a good team-bonding camp where 28 players were chosen and it was all about fitness really and no cricket. Former SA cricketing legends then joined up for a golf day.

Mate, how does the third seamer scenario look like in South Africa? From where I stand, there seems to be too much reliance on Steyn and Morkel. Do you think there's some promising young speedster who should do well in test cricket?

Mate, how does the third seamer scenario look like in South Africa? From where I stand, there seems to be too much reliance on Steyn and Morkel. Do you think there's some promising young speedster who should do well in test cricket?

Tsotsobe seems to be their chosen one (failed in county cricket, sent home with bad attitude allegedly) but then there appears to be Theron and young bucks like Alexander. Even Donald admitted though if they lost one of their best two they'd been in trouble. Their other interesting selection poser would be Alviro Petersen/Prince and Duminy fighting it out for two spots.

Tsotsobe seems to be their chosen one (failed in county cricket, sent home with bad attitude allegedly) but then there appears to be Theron and young bucks like Alexander. Even Donald admitted though if they lost one of their best two they'd been in trouble. Their other interesting selection poser would be Alviro Petersen/Prince and Duminy fighting it out for two spots.

Don't write off Tsotsobe too quickly. He lacks pace but he has height and can hold up and end and get important wickets while possibly Tahir will play as another attacking bowler. Tsotsobe did Ponting in the ODI he played against Aus on the pull shot and he skied it, he has the ability to change it up in pace. Philander could be another line bowler chosen and he hits the seam a lot and he has been doing well on 'A' tours and is maturing and can hold the bat down the order. Parnell and Alexander are other attacking options for 140kph plus bowling with swing.

Prince will keep his spot, hasn't done anything wrong and has scored runs against Australia when chips are down before.

The interesting selections will be Petersen or Rudolph to open and Tahir or Harris as the spinner probably.

Tsotsobe seems to be their chosen one (failed in county cricket, sent home with bad attitude allegedly) but then there appears to be Theron and young bucks like Alexander.

Originally Posted by SeamUp

Don't write off Tsotsobe too quickly. He lacks pace but he has height and can hold up and end and get important wickets while possibly Tahir will play as another attacking bowler. Tsotsobe did Ponting in the ODI he played against Aus on the pull shot and he skied it, he has the ability to change it up in pace. Philander could be another line bowler chosen and he hits the seam a lot and he has been doing well on 'A' tours and is maturing and can hold the bat down the order. Parnell and Alexander are other attacking options for 140kph plus bowling with swing.

Thanks! Would be interesting to see how some of them go. Tsotsobe looked steady and not too threatening when the Indians toured. Although, as you mentioned, he has the ability to unleash a heavy ball every now and then. Hits the seam from a good height, so I cannot say I am too displeased with the basics.

Look folks, I am not against Hauritz's selection. But the issue is that by dumping Lyon at this stage, the Aussie selectors will be making the same mistake that they've been making since Warne's retirement.

What a young spinner needs is a conducive environment for his art to blossom. The knowledge that your skipper and selectors believe in your ability and are looking to groom you overtime is an immense confidence-booster. True, Hauritz was given a raw deal and must figure in the scheme of things for future. But, let's not be intent on ruining another young off-spinner's confidence.

Look folks, I am not against Hauritz's selection. But the issue is that by dumping Lyon at this stage, the Aussie selectors will be making the same mistake that they've been making since Warne's retirement.

What a young spinner needs is a conducive environment for his art to blossom. The knowledge that your skipper and selectors believe in your ability and are looking to groom you overtime is an immense confidence-booster. True, Hauritz was given a raw deal and must figure in the scheme of things for future. But, let's not be intent on ruining another young off-spinner's confidence.

Lyon will definitely be in the squad, but there's a fair chance of Hauritz or possibly even O'Keefe being picked too. And once they're in the squad there's always the possibility they'll outbowl Lyon in the warm up and sneak into the test side ahead of him.