I've never read the comic are the characters as annoying as the show? The only ones I can stand on tv are Glenn and Daryl. If it weren't for those two I'd be rooting for the zombies to wipe out the whole group.

Carth:I've never read the comic are the characters as annoying as the show? The only ones I can stand on tv are Glenn and Daryl. If it weren't for those two I'd be rooting for the zombies to wipe out the whole group.

I've been rooting for the zombies since the first episode. And I'll be rooting for them when zombie apocalypse happens. After my internet goes down, I just won't care anymore.

Carth:I've never read the comic are the characters as annoying as the show? The only ones I can stand on tv are Glenn and Daryl. If it weren't for those two I'd be rooting for the zombies to wipe out the whole group.

The characters in the comic are a lot better. Rick alternates between good protagonist and batshiat crazy. Carl is a badass almost from the beginning. Andrea is a badass sniper. Tyrese (comic version of T-Dog) is more than just a token. Michonne actually has a character.

NeoCortex42:Carth: I've never read the comic are the characters as annoying as the show? The only ones I can stand on tv are Glenn and Daryl. If it weren't for those two I'd be rooting for the zombies to wipe out the whole group.

The characters in the comic are a lot better. Rick alternates between good protagonist and batshiat crazy. Carl is a badass almost from the beginning. Andrea is a badass sniper. Tyrese (comic version of T-Dog) is more than just a token. Michonne actually has a character.

I stopped around Vol. 11 or 12 because the story and characters really wore me down. I am thinking about jumping back in but I am enjoying a bunch of other series too much. I kind of just hope they all die.

Carth:I've never read the comic are the characters as annoying as the show? The only ones I can stand on tv are Glenn and Daryl. If it weren't for those two I'd be rooting for the zombies to wipe out the whole group.

Lori was actually way more annoying in the comics, to the point where you were kind of glad that she got a bullet in her relatively fast. In the TV show at least, they made her a little more likable so by the time she died it was a pretty heart rending scene. Glen is pretty much the same as in the comics, and there is no Daryl, although the comic did have an awesome ex-NFL player named Tyrese who was pure awesome. I'm hoping that they killed off T-Dog in order to eventually bring in Tyrese.

NeoCortex42:Carth: I've never read the comic are the characters as annoying as the show? The only ones I can stand on tv are Glenn and Daryl. If it weren't for those two I'd be rooting for the zombies to wipe out the whole group.

The characters in the comic are a lot better. Rick alternates between good protagonist and batshiat crazy. Carl is a badass almost from the beginning. Andrea is a badass sniper. Tyrese (comic version of T-Dog) is more than just a token. Michonne actually has a character.

Kirkman's saving grace is that he makes interesting, and generally likable characters.

He just has no idea what to do with them and so relies on other people's ideas, cliches, and Deus Ex Machinas to keep the 'plot' going.

NeoCortex42:Carth: I've never read the comic are the characters as annoying as the show? The only ones I can stand on tv are Glenn and Daryl. If it weren't for those two I'd be rooting for the zombies to wipe out the whole group.

The characters in the comic are a lot better. Rick alternates between good protagonist and batshiat crazy. Carl is a badass almost from the beginning. Andrea is a badass sniper. Tyrese (comic version of T-Dog) is more than just a token. Michonne actually has a character.

I've been really disappointed in the TV Michonne. It seems like her only character trait is to frown on people's shenanigans.

NeoCortex42:Carth: I've never read the comic are the characters as annoying as the show? The only ones I can stand on tv are Glenn and Daryl. If it weren't for those two I'd be rooting for the zombies to wipe out the whole group.

The characters in the comic are a lot better. Rick alternates between good protagonist and batshiat crazy. Carl is a badass almost from the beginning. Andrea is a badass sniper. Tyrese (comic version of T-Dog) is more than just a token. Michonne actually has a character.

Glen's basically the same. Daryl isn't in the comics. Dale possibly had a threeway with Amy and Andrea.

I just don't see the point in buying single issues today. Even first-runs are overpriced, and they're going to bind the whole artist/writer run in an omnibus or TP anyway. So why buy the same stories twice?

verbaltoxin:I just don't see the point in buying single issues today. Even first-runs are overpriced, and they're going to bind the whole artist/writer run in an omnibus or TP anyway. So why buy the same stories twice?

The only reason I still buy any single issues is to have them hardbound myself. It's cheaper and I can control the content. Mentally Challenged companies like DC have a history of either not releasing stuff in trade, or skipping issues for no good reason, so binding is a good way to make sure they get nothing for subpar collections.

/plus, after a few months, any backissue is usually easy to find for a buck or less.//But for stuff from Image or other indy companies? Yeah, odds are the issues are released in a TPB a month or two after the arc is over.

FirstNationalBastard:verbaltoxin: I just don't see the point in buying single issues today. Even first-runs are overpriced, and they're going to bind the whole artist/writer run in an omnibus or TP anyway. So why buy the same stories twice?

The only reason I still buy any single issues is to have them hardbound myself. It's cheaper and I can control the content. Mentally Challenged companies like DC have a history of either not releasing stuff in trade, or skipping issues for no good reason, so binding is a good way to make sure they get nothing for subpar collections.

/plus, after a few months, any backissue is usually easy to find for a buck or less.//But for stuff from Image or other indy companies? Yeah, odds are the issues are released in a TPB a month or two after the arc is over.

I'm mostly an Image/Dark Horse guy aside from Batman, so I don't have to suffer DC and Marvel's shenanigans usually.

Dissociater:NeoCortex42: Carth: I've never read the comic are the characters as annoying as the show? The only ones I can stand on tv are Glenn and Daryl. If it weren't for those two I'd be rooting for the zombies to wipe out the whole group.

The characters in the comic are a lot better. Rick alternates between good protagonist and batshiat crazy. Carl is a badass almost from the beginning. Andrea is a badass sniper. Tyrese (comic version of T-Dog) is more than just a token. Michonne actually has a character.

Kirkman's saving grace is that he makes interesting, and generally likable characters.

He just has no idea what to do with them and so relies on other people's ideas, cliches, and Deus Ex Machinas to keep the 'plot' going.

I'm a little tired of the 'oh we're saved by something almost too good to be true' followed by the 'yep, too good to be true, we are worse off than ever' storyline. There's gotta be a more interesting story than just doing that over and over again.

Lumbar Puncture:I'm a little tired of the 'oh we're saved by something almost too good to be true' followed by the 'yep, too good to be true, we are worse off than ever' storyline. There's gotta be a more interesting story than just doing that over and over again.

That's why my favorite arc of the comics is during the prison story. There was a pretty lengthy time between finding the prison and losing it. During that time, the zombies were barely an issue and the main focus was on all of the characters coming to terms with their situation and how they each reacted to it.

After the whole Woodbury story, it seemed to be a constant case of repeating the past of finding a safe haven, turns out it wasn't safe, half the current cast dies. I'm not really sure where the comic has left to go anymore and am thinking it might be time to bring it to some sort of conclusion. Issue 100 was basically just there for shock factor so they could say something important happened.

FirstNationalBastard:verbaltoxin: I just don't see the point in buying single issues today. Even first-runs are overpriced, and they're going to bind the whole artist/writer run in an omnibus or TP anyway. So why buy the same stories twice?

The only reason I still buy any single issues is to have them hardbound myself. It's cheaper and I can control the content. Mentally Challenged companies like DC have a history of either not releasing stuff in trade, or skipping issues for no good reason, so binding is a good way to make sure they get nothing for subpar collections.

/plus, after a few months, any backissue is usually easy to find for a buck or less.//But for stuff from Image or other indy companies? Yeah, odds are the issues are released in a TPB a month or two after the arc is over.

For good comics that are worth the price like Saga, I'll grab the single issues on the day of release via Comixology. Everything else I'll usually pick up on sale for $1 per issue when they run a promo.

Lumbar Puncture:I'm a little tired of the 'oh we're saved by something almost too good to be true' followed by the 'yep, too good to be true, we are worse off than ever' storyline. There's gotta be a more interesting story than just doing that over and over again.

*COMIC SPOILERS*

Ehhh.... it's kind of inevitable in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, and it's only happened 5 times in the 100+ issues: Wiltshire Estates, Prison, Woodbury, Alexandria, Hilltop. That's it. And it doesn't take long to see the critical flaws in places (in fact, now Rick approach them with a ton of skepticism). Far more time is spent on Rick's slow descent as a protagonist.

Really curious what they're going to do with Carl in the current storyline too. If anything will drive Rick over the edge, this is it.

Supes:Lumbar Puncture: I'm a little tired of the 'oh we're saved by something almost too good to be true' followed by the 'yep, too good to be true, we are worse off than ever' storyline. There's gotta be a more interesting story than just doing that over and over again.

*COMIC SPOILERS*

Ehhh.... it's kind of inevitable in a post-apocalyptic wasteland, and it's only happened 5 times in the 100+ issues: Wiltshire Estates, Prison, Woodbury, Alexandria, Hilltop. That's it. And it doesn't take long to see the critical flaws in places (in fact, now Rick approach them with a ton of skepticism). Far more time is spent on Rick's slow descent as a protagonist.

Really curious what they're going to do with Carl in the current storyline too. If anything will drive Rick over the edge, this is it.

Recycling the same plot arc 5 times in 100 issues is more than enough. Like another person wrote, the prison was my favorite of the arcs because they spent more time developing other sub plots. Rick's descent isn't that interesting to me because it doesn't feel like it is going anywhere, except to make him go apeshiat or become more of a douchebag, either way that's not really a satisfying plot resolution.

I'm interested in Carl though, because he seems to have become nearly a sociopath.

FTDA:WTF happened to Carol? Last I saw of her she was running out a door while T-Dog sacrificed himself for her safety. They found her do-rag, and the next week Daryl's putting a Cherokee Rose on a grave?

FTDA:WTF happened to Carol? Last I saw of her she was running out a door while T-Dog sacrificed himself for her safety. They found her do-rag, and the next week Daryl's putting a Cherokee Rose on a grave?

I'm betting it's her on the phone. But yeah, everybody pretty much ignored the fact that she's missing.

SuperChuck:FTDA: WTF happened to Carol? Last I saw of her she was running out a door while T-Dog sacrificed himself for her safety. They found her do-rag, and the next week Daryl's putting a Cherokee Rose on a grave?

I'm betting it's her on the phone. But yeah, everybody pretty much ignored the fact that she's missing.

If they realize she's still alive, do we get a half season of them searching for her?

SuperChuck:FTDA: WTF happened to Carol? Last I saw of her she was running out a door while T-Dog sacrificed himself for her safety. They found her do-rag, and the next week Daryl's putting a Cherokee Rose on a grave?

I'm betting it's her on the phone. But yeah, everybody pretty much ignored the fact that she's missing.

I've also been in the boat of "what about Carol?!" A scrap of clothing does not a dead person make.I've been thinking it was either1) they wanted to spend time showing other stuff rather than a search for her, so just made it assumed they found her, buried, done.2) they didn't look, she's alive, we'll be surprised later3) they didn't look, she's a zombie, we'll be surprised later

I had never considered it might be her on the phone, maybe someone from Woodbury, but that's an interesting thought.... and now that you mention it, that seems more likely than Woodbury, though, I'm thinking it's more likely to be something else entirely.

And yet my entire Arrow/Caliber comics run of DEAD WORLD is still here, bagged and waiting for its day in the sun, along with the signed, hand-drawn X-Mas card Vince Locke sent to me as an early subscriber.

FirstNationalBastard://But for stuff from Image or other indy companies? Yeah, odds are the issues are released in a TPB a month or two after the arc is over.

yeah, its pretty nice to be able to get caught up with the tpb and jump into the floppies to stay current. vertigo pretty much likes to say fark you and make you try and find four or five back issues and by that time the next tpb is out. image has a far more consumer friendly business model.