I don't see how a guy complaining about getting friendzoned is being manipulative.

It depends on to whom he's complaining. If he's doing it to a lady (or, er, complaining to a lady because they're not doing it), it's manipulative. If he's complaining inside his head, probably not. Either way, he's upset about something that doesn't exist._________________"Worse comes to worst, my people come first, but my tribe lives on every country on earth. I’ll do anything to protect them from hurt, the human race is what I serve." - Baba Brinkman

... So as to avoid any personal responsibility for not hooking up/going out/whatever._________________"Worse comes to worst, my people come first, but my tribe lives on every country on earth. I’ll do anything to protect them from hurt, the human race is what I serve." - Baba Brinkman

As someone whose done a fair bit of arc welding, I just wanted to point out that lifting your welding mask while welding is a great way to do some serious UV damage to your eyes. Especially if you're doing stick (not so much for MIG because the nozzle tends blocks your view of the arc somewhat).

Unless she's doing OxyAce welding, and those goggles/safety glasses are at least shade #5, in which case it's fine.

Having had "friends" completely up and disappear without word because I had the audacity to date somebody not them (keeping in mind, none of 'em asked me out) really crashed my self-esteem at one point.

I'm not the prettiest girl in the world, but I definitely won the genetic lottery in that I'm skinny with big eyes and lips. I was thoroughly convinced for the longest time that my looks were the only reason dudes would ever talk to me. It wasn't narcissism. I thought I was so awful and impossible to deal with that as soon as they -actually- got to know me they'd book it.

So you know what? Fuck this idea that being 'friendzoned' is the WORST FUCKING THING that could possibly happen to you. And seriously, fuck anybody who's decided a girl (any girl) is only worth their time if there is some hope they'll get to fuck her later. And none of this bullshit about love, if she isn't worth their time as a friend then they're obviously just making up excuses to expect sex._________________Samsally the GrayAce

I dunno about you guys but I just count myself lucky to even be in a so called "friendzone". You can never have enough friends.

Although I tend to think of myself more as that friend you know who helps you with stuff (moving heavy stuff, helping with chemistry work) than as a serious romantic interest. This is probably a bad thing._________________Whatever happened to the heroes?