In the second episode of The Creative Agency Podcast, Chris interviews Patrick Ezell co-founder of the award winning design and interactive agency, Copious. Patrick talks to us about making the transition from a coder who actively works on projects to a CEO who hires creatives and coders that do that work for him. Patrick’s passion for learning new things and hiring talent that have skills and knowledge beyond his own has made Copious an incredible success.

Patrick shares tons of great tips and advice for agency owners. Don’t miss his takeaways at the end of the show.

Learn more about Patrick and his current efforts on his website ezell.io