♦ Considering Hillary Clinton travels with a 24/7 press poll: If Secretary Clinton was diagnosed on Friday with pneumonia, when and where did the X-Ray take place?

♦ Considering Hillary Clinton was in the care of Dr. Lisa Bardack all day: Why would a doctor diagnosis of Bacterial Pneumonia (variant treated with antibiotics), and then after collapse allow patient to engage with children? Campaign reports Mrs. Clinton played with her grandchildren while recovering at Chelsea’s apartment.

♦ Considering Secretary Clinton was diagnosed with Pneumonia on Friday, and after a collapse, why wouldn’t immediate hospitalization be the course of care?

♦ Considering Doctor statement includes patient suffering “severe dehydration”, which led to collapse, wouldn’t iv fluids be the primary treatment? How possible at Chelsea’s apartment?

Dehydration has been named before as the catalyst of serious health issues. She was supposedly dehydrated when she fell and struck herr head, which caused the clot in her brain. She may be dehydrated, but in addition to another condition.

This is as clever a lie as wiping the server with a cloth and taking a hammer to a sensitive Blackberry.

She reappears after on the streets of Manhattan. Do we know it is her ? Her insistence for years that aids and security not look at her, stay so many feet away etc. – does she use doubles ? It has been done before …

First thing, where is SS security as she exits, where are the doctor(s) that were with her earlier constantly. OPTICS, for the media, balderdash I say. SService lets her walk out of the building into a crowded street, and no one is seen scanning. The doc with the ” pen is not there. Only security is the doorman and a street patrol beat cop it seems.

Optics for a photo op so no security is there. Sure plenty of protocol for that (sarc). They let a girl come up to her out of a crowd for a photo op. She bends over with no issues and places her hands on the girls shoulders and applies no weight to her.

Before she would be allowed to exit SS would have been outside long before and would then have been close by to provide a shield if an alert was given. I watched several Times and its like a daily stroll for an ordinary person.

Love that female backup GAFL. Women grow up studying other women and see the details. If I had to guess, I would say they sent out a false flag. If she was so peppy leaving the apartment why cancel her appearances etc. Also note the fall she took trying to enter the vehicle. She fell flat and down. At her age that will leave brusing and most likely abrasions maybe to her face. No such thing apparent. Taking a fall like that with her weight and KNEES, I doubt she would or even be able to walk. That was a severe fall. My mon lives in an assisted living facility. If someone there takes a fall like that, its an ambulance call and they have to go to the hospital, mandatory. I doubt Chelsea’s apartment has a xray machine much less a scanner of any sort for looking for damage. Sum ting wong, wei tu low, must be at the controls again.

I watched meet the press on delay to see the Browkaw conversation, and looking at the video when she is leaving Chelsea’s apartment in HD, I think the nose looks different because she bumped it in the fall and it was swollen. They used make-up to camouflage it, but it looks too light and matte to be her skin. It is beneath the glasses frame on te bridge of the nose. I think that’s why the face looks different. Maybe that’s why they kept the cameras so far away too, so no one saw the injury.

Also, does she keep extra pair of shoes everywhere so if she loose one someplace she can replace them fast? Wait! May be the police brough it fast, right? I never saw her with a purse before. Look at the early pics. That woman is a look alike.

I did not understand that she fell and hit the ground at all. the close up video only shows her being dragged so that means the bulk of her weight is being transported up right to the car. Don’t think she hit the ground. She, no doubt, would have fallen if not surrounded by everyone. I do believe there is something to her walking out onto the street afterward with NO Secret Service, no people at her elbow. That IS strange. that does not happen. Maybe a double. Definitely a candidate for seizures with her past head injury. that is just a fact.

I don’t even know if at that time the collapsing video had surfaced yet, so they were going with the “everything is fine” story. They did not show that video on MTP even though they broke into the show to discuss her leaving the 9/11 event and then again to show her leaving Chelsea’s.

Not in the video I watched, can you post a link to that. She walks past the van and I see no one open the door. She just passes the bumper and is gone. How can you see him, he is on the other side of the camera’s across the street.

you must be referring to the video when she falls that morning. We are discussing the woman that afternoon who exits Chelsea’s apartment.

I noticed that a picture of Hildabeast before the departure from the 911 session, had her carrying her purse on her left side and then the ‘ Hildabeast’ who came out with the little girl photo op carried the purse on her right side. Now we women tend to have one side for purse carrying and using the side is highly UN comfortable. This has to be a body double….she got her shoe back that was left on the pavement when she was loaded into the SUV…..CURIOUSER AND CURIOUSER. I pray protection for DJT

Obama was there. Given the problems with the SS, they still were committed to protecting him and her early departure was not in the gameplan. My guess is Hillary is wearing some type of device/apparatus.

Hillary Clinton at Ground Zero today before her collapse:
media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09’AP_16255490864313-420×315.jpg
Hillary Clinton after Chelsea’s apartment today after her collapse:
media.breitbart.com/media/2016/09/GettyImages-602406270-640×480.jpg
In my opinion, the second image IS NOT Hillary Clinton. Too many physical differences between this and before her collapse. Possible body double was “inserted” during that 90 minute gap before the press corps knew what happened and certainly before “Hillary Clinton” exited her daughter’s apartment.

Just to be clear, that dude is using photos from eight or more years ago to compare to todays photos. He has a caption “last democratic debate” which was at least 8 years ago. Not a fair comparison by any means. Those are the photos he is using isn’t it from a debate with Obama not even the general election, well over eight years ago. Like showing a girl at 12 then one at 20. Same thing happens in the latter years also.

The link to the twitter account of the person who posted that photo has a photo of the real shoe she was wearing it appears. It appears to be someone try to muck up the waters posting that photo of a blue “slipper”. If you click on the twitter link for that photo someone posted what they claim is the real shoe, high heel multi color big dollar type of thing.

The pics Sundance has posted at the top of some of the threads for Crooked’s “incident” today show she was wearing solid black flats at the 9/11 Memorial. So, not sure what’s up with the odd shoe pics.

Look at the picture of Hillary walking with her doctor by her side that was taken before the motorcade pictures. Her shoes look to be solid black flats with no basket weave design or animal print. Her suit looks like a light navy compared to her Doctor’s and some of the men’s darker navy clothes. The Hillary that came out of Chelsea’s apartment the suit appeared very dark navy or black. It was not tight on that woman like Hillary’s was in earlier pictures. The motorcade picture had the suit looking very dark also.

Puts on tinfoil hat here. The lady getting into the motorcade and coming out of Chelsea’s apartment was not Hillary but a decoy. I believe Hillary was swept away secretly to the hospital and is in much worse shape than collapsing at the motorcade. The shoes was the first thing I noticed then the shade and fit of the jackets. They are different imo. Don’t laugh, I’m serious here.

I’m not laughing, girlfriend. From my point of view, we’ve entered the twilight zone.

I’m not one who generally comments on people’s appearance, but looking at Crooked and the women with her is always puzzling. How do women spend so much money on clothes and look so unkempt? Seriously. The women with Crooked today even had on dresses and still managed to be unkempt. How does that happen?!

Appearing neatly and appropriately dressed is called class. My dad always told me class had nothing to do with money. It had to do with morals and pride in one’s appearance and they way you present yourself. I have seen poor people with lots of class and rich ones with none and vice versa. The Clintons have no class. The Trumps have gobs of class.

I’ve seen it too, but take a look at the words they use…”May”…”Might”. I’d believe it more if they said, “Will”. Will be meeting not might be meeting.

hc is real good with playing on words. She doesn’t apologize, she regrets, and so forth. With all of the lies and so many people wanting to be the first to say so and so, I don’t trust any of them. With these guys actions are stronger then words. I will wait and see what happens. For now I believe hc is in a bed somewhere being treated. I cannot imagine her jumping up and smiling like that after what she had gone through, but then she also wants this presidency like nothing else. Who knows, it could be a double, I wouldn’t put it past them. I’m more worried about the SService, they seem to have low life expectancies when working for hc. Take a gander on the internet. It will shock you.

They’re going to have to pry the nomination from Hitlery’s cold dead hands. She is NOT giving up because becoming President means massive $$$$ for the Clinton Foundation as scum from around the world pay to play.

I’d like to know why the heck is she supposedly dehydrated so much? And if she is, her med team must be on the look out for it and try to prevent it. Now if she was sick since Friday, put on antibiotics and known to have a specific illness, why weren’t they making sure she wasn’t going to get dehydrated before she ever went to that event? They could have given her fluids via IV before she ever set foot outside her door. C’mon people, there are so many holes in this lame excuse for her medical issues. I call B.S. on all of this.

The other thing is that considering all the flack she was getting last week over her coughing fit, if she really was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday, you’d think they would have put that out there to explain-away her coughing fit.

Unless you’re “powering through” an illness that gets worse unless you take it easy. Then “powering through” is just stupidity because you’re destroying your own health. Geez, do none of these people have any sense at all?

Congestive heart failure–cause undetermined.
I’ve watched for weeks/months as her abdomen kept swelling (fluid build up), face puffy, breathlessness, covered swollen, ankles, weak and tired. All symptoms of CHF,
The last day or so, her abdomen bulge disappeared—diuretics? Bad move if that was the case.

I would not be surprised if she has already passed, or will do do so in the next few days/weeks.

Coughing is also a sign. Most people WANT to attribute it to a cold/flu/bronchitis —no.

Of course, I may be wrong, But I lived through this exact thing with my late spouse.

Fluid retention of undetermined etiology. Most people are familiar with CHF. I’m more familiar with people who have destroyed their livers with alcohol. There is a huge circulation loop going through the liver. If the liver is damaged it plugs that circulation, eventually leading to jaundice when the bile can’t go anywhere except into the blood. But before the yellow-marker color there is a long period of round tummy due to fluid in the abdomen. It can lead to general edema too. And by that time such a patient is not in the best mental state either. Since Hillary is well known to tipple I’d say the problems started there. The Parkinson’s sounds very plausible too. It’s entirely possible that she has multiple systemic problems and they are synergistic, putting her on a fast downhill trajectory.

Ok, here’s some food for thought. Early voting has already started. So, even if Democrats replace Hillary, all those early votes for her are effectively wasted and are votes lost for the new Dem candidate.

Also, how many states are already past the deadline for getting on the ballot? If they wait much longer, it may be legally impossible for them to place the new candidate on ballots, meaning they would have to be written in.

It’s not going to “work”, in that it’s not going to get her votes. But, if the UniParty does steal the election, they can make this a story: the American people voting for someone heroically tumbling into a van.

Here is another angle. It is reversed from the mirror image use of a dual camera cell phone. YOu can see more though than this angle. She wobbles and falls flat is easily seen. Almost like they let go or her weight was so great they couldn’t hold her up with the momentum.

Also I believe there is a step up bar/step below the entrance main step on the floor board, almost a given on large vehicles of that kinds. Its below and appears to be silver from the light reflection.

They are obviously using the Steel cylindar she is propped up against as a way to keep her upright. Its appears to be a car barrier used to deny entrance, so it is solid, its not a cigarette can.

Why does these videos cut off after this, is Youtube doing it? We see her fall in all I have seen and then POOF

Even the Pharaohs were not immune from illness and death. They were considered gods and yet had to face illness and death. Hillary is facing a reality that she cannot undo. She cannot evade serious illness and death, no matter her wealth and ambition.

Interesting that the “birther Issue” was raised in the FOX segment. I think there are a lot of media types and politicians who are very nervous about this issue. Trump KNOWS that the birth certificate that obama produced is DEFINITELY a forgery. He is a for the time being staying away from the issue but not refuting any of his prior statements. I think if he gets elected he might really expose obama and his felony forgery and identity fraud. Witness Joe Arpaio at his side from the beginning and how obama used his bully pulpit to try and shame Trump during the White House correspondent dinner back in 2012. There are a lot of politicians on both sides of the aisle and the entire MSM who are very nervous about this issue as they are all culpable in the coverup..

I know, I was thinking the same thing. I watched a 9/11 show on CNN and then their news reporting came on, they were discussing Hillary’s health problems but for some reason the guest kept bringing up Trump. They just cannot help themselves I guess, they are so accustomed to attacking Trump 24×7 they don’t know how to not do it.

It has to do with the media lying to protect their ineligible (Obama) or unfit for office (Hillary) candidate. The birth certificate issue was a lot more complex and easier to obfuscate than a candidate collapsing on the street.

What was the first report of Clinton’s exit from the memorial? It looks like initially her campaign said that she left early because she was feeling overheated and so left to go to her daughter’s apartment and that she was feeling better now. But I believe that the person who took the video of Hillary’s nearly collapsing on the sidewalk threw a monkey wrench into their plans to hide what really happened, for they probably weren’t aware of the video at the time. I believe if it wasn’t for the video, her campaign would have stuck to the story that she left only because she was feeling overheated and it was no big deal. With the video, they no longer are able to keep that lie. The video shows there is more to the story than only a little overheating.

Yes, but pray for his safety. He identified himself of twitter, and originally was I think attempting to sell rights. Someone took it, then the wildfire started. Last night at approx 10pmCST even the NYTimes had it on their site! Roughly a 12 hour saturation. That’s amazing!

Hillary’s health narrative changes direction faster and more smoothly than a school of fish.

Hillary is in EXCELLENT health
Except for the allergies.
And the cough, which is, of course, allergies.
Which have nothing to do with why she stumbled.
She was just overheated. Her feet were hot, that’s why she took off her shoes. Shoe.
Actually, we meant she was dehydrated.
And by dehydrated, we meant to say pneumonia.
Still to come:
Turns out it’s aspiration pneumonia, to be precise.
Well, yes, that is a symptom of Parkinson’s Disease.
Which, um, she has. But it’s not that-
All right, it’s pretty bad. But that doesn’t mean she can’t-
So, anyone have Bernie’s number?

Chelsea lives at The Whitman, on 26h Street. It’s not close to the WTC site which I assume is where the memorial was held. Someone who couldn’t walk, who with the help of 3 adults STILL FELL walking 2 feet to the SUV, who was accompanied by her physician … was taken to Chelsea’s apartment??? Does Chelsea have a defibrillator and a stockpile of meds in her apartment or something???

I agree. Some people who have seizures have an aura that starts just before the seizure and usually acts as an early warning sign. People with seizures, depending upon severity, are usually up and around and back to normal within a few hours. At leaset in my experience.

Did Hitlery ever admit to having a stroke several years ago? Let’s say she had one. I was just reading that people who have had strokes are more susceptible to having seizures, around 22% of stroke sufferers have seizures. There is also some question of whether or not Warfarin (which she is taking) causes them. Someone in her state should never be President.

While Hitlery was having another health crisis, Trump was looking super healthy at the event, shown in this video with Giuliani and Michael Clark (you see him at :28+), Christie (who looks slimmer than ever!), and other dignitaries. Just another crisis-free day in DJT’s campaign life. 🙂 So glad our guy is strong.

Hitlery again at 10:15+. Looking just fine there. And what was that BS about being jammed in with a bunch of other people at the event? She was in the front row! Plenty of air. I think she was in the shade too. The high temp in NYC was 84.

I can’t say for sure but I would bet it was cooler at the time Hillary was there. In the early morning the temps are usually a few degrees cooler and I have read on different sites there was a gentle breeze blowing.

http://www.healthline.com/health/aspiration-pneumonia#Causes2
Aspiration pneumonia is more likely to occur if something is preventing your normal gag reflex. This can be due to a brain injury (which can occur due to stroke or trauma), medical conditions such as myasthenia gravis, Parkinson’s disease, dementia, multiple sclerosis (MS), and amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS or Lou Gehrig’s disease), or even excessive use of alcohol, prescription, or illegal drugs. Aspiration pneumonia can also be associated with esophageal disorders, anesthesia, and dental problems that interfere with chewing or swallowing. Sometimes, the swallowing muscles can become weak with age or inactivity, for example, a patient who is on mechanical ventilation for several days or longer. Finally, persons with normal swallowing and a normal gag reflex can aspirate and develop pneumonia if their food or drink simply “goes down the wrong way.”

This was taken when she was bolting from the event. Her doctor has a firm grip on her arm, and Hitlery has her hand up to her chest …. was it hurting her? The claim was that she was overheating and dehydrated but there’s no water in sight and her jacket is fully buttoned. The Clintons are the most corrupt liars ever! Even the doctor is lying. UNFIT FOR OFFICE.

The body double is not conspiracy theory or tin foil hat. Everyone has a double.
Clinton and the DemonCraps knew of her health problems. To prepare for any
forsee able issues they hired a body double for occasions such as today.

No security around her, she smiles and waves saying she feels great, energetic, a little kid walks up to her… staged, body double.
Unless she was high on speed or steroids, and lots of fresh makeup.

And that is the reason why there were no Secret Service guys around the body double because they would be fired if it was known they participated in this fraud. They were either at the hospital or her house guarding the real Hillary which they are sworn to do.

A couple things to consider: Hillary was not only the only one wearing shades while it was overcast and temps were around 78 degrees – hardly hot enough to faint. Secondly – the blue glasses she wore were anti-seizure shades as Danger and Play explained on his blog.
Then we have the lie about Hillary having pneumonia: Having had lung cancer where much of my left lung was removed I have struggled with pneumonia’s so often that is has become a new normal for me and always expected.
Hillary here displays someone frozen, stiff like seizures can cause but far removed from pneumonia that does not carry such side effects or total collapse. Her head falls back, her legs are dragged losing a shoe and totally collapsed right at the moment she gets put into the van by her Epi-Pen doc. She totally lost control of limbs and/or body movements including keeping her head upright.
Why go to Chelsea’s apartment rather than a hospital? Because her ailment/disease is known and her new normal despite being heavily medicated at times that can be seen in various speeches and donor attendance. To me – it is their way to ‘make her last without incident’ and not draw attention to her failing health while she collect millions in donor settings. She could have donors that could/would be taken aback if they saw her seizures or other symptoms involved.
She is being propped up with medications in hope that no voters/supporters notice enough and start to draw back ergo her various different demeanors/behaviors when given speeches.
The US Pravda yesterday were told they could not film after she had to leave the 9/11 memorial and they obliged. The questions now become: Can they continue this fassad or shirade to continue? The answer most likely is ‘No’ due to the pending and upcoming debates where fluffy pillows and comfy chair to assist will add even more to the already bad optics.
All we can do is observe what they come up with next. She is not able to withstand hours of debates moderated while pressure will be enormous to her and unable to tolerate or get through.
The most sad thing in all of this is the continuous entitlement of Hillary as well as a lifelong lust for power to return to the white house as president. She will never give that up – that is unless she dies before it happen.