"Re: BKWSU Male Rape of Shantivan VIP Worker: Police involved", I want to know the reality behind it.It was reported by some local Rajasthani newspaper. People who are in learning stage & are not following values, rather present in BKWSU with some other motives are involved in it.

So, i want to know why BKWSU supported accused?

They should have been thrown out but got saved instead. Someone reported on bkinfo that BKWSU paid police Rs. 4 lacs to shut the case. Now, this is not at all digestible, is it? It is bribing or not.

The culprit served BKWSU for 15 years. And while in custody, they were served with food cooked in BKWSU. This is very much questionable. I think all these incidents are also responsible in devaluation of motive-aim-objective of BKWSU.

Why such bribe given & continuous supply of food to culprit given. I suppose that there is possibility of such people everywhere & to deal with them, strict action should be taken instead of saving them so that they may never repeat it again.

Is it due to their 15 years of service?

Then it again raises cause of concern as many may misuse the protection given by BKWSU for such crimes. Everything is fair in continuing service of God but this is well beyond limits.

A big blow came when a user on bkinfo reported that some senior said that victim is responsible wholly for this incident. Who is ****** & ****** ?? Why are they again back to service???

I am not getting a right understanding of this case.

Who is right, who is wrong, is it safe for our friends to be part of BKWSU?

Its fine if no one wants to speak on this issue. Its neither spiritual nor ethical what happened there. But several questions remain unanswered & then after few years, this incident will be regarded as one that "might not" have occurred ever.(if information is correct, then)

It raises doubts over security. If someone visits Shantiwan next time, what precautions he must take before entering that region? Definitely, everyone there is not like these two but if there are any precautionary measures for visitor like us given by BKWSU, then let us know.

Can one trust a BK who has served there constantly for 15 years? I understand feeling are there within but such burst is not expected in/near a yoga institute, in a yogi who has been in service for 15 years. Indeed that is very long span for one getting totally transformed.

The details bk.info mentioned are right or wrong?? There is an evidence in form of that newpaper snapshot which clearly mentions the incident. I still don't know anything about this case apart from that mentioned on bk.info.

It will not happen ever next time to anyone, can one take it guaranteed?? No BK would like to see that happening to a fellow BK.

So, can we advice our friends who are BK to visit there without caring about their izzat & maryadas as they will find them among brothers, not people who are like accused?

How insane it appears sometime, is it such a yug that we cannot even believe those who appears most sorted & peaceful?

More serious question, if a BK brother or sister is going to completely surrender in service, would it be right for his/her lokik family to oppose that due to all such incidents that they know? Should it be seen as saving their son/daughter or oppressing them?

How BKWSU can put its reputation at stake because of just two three people who did not follow moral & spiritual code of conduct laid by BKWSU? There can be bit freedom given as everyone is a student there, not perfect yet but such cases are test of BKWSU, not students.

Instead it saved accused. Its not benevolence or humility or service toward living being by saving from their deserved punishment, atleast i do not accept it. Rather it makes me think that these two accused must have known something bad going on in BKWSU, that's why they were saved in order to shut their mouths or they would tell everything to world. But few people related to such incidents or similar ones, may say to have faith in system but to what extent. Is it not like playing with life, throwing it knowingly on a mysterious road where accidents happen but cause remains unknown to everyone?

You all have cooperated & remained open in your views. So, it would be nice if everyone give all reader a hint of actually what happened & how BKWSU still can be a safe place for me & everyone.

I first want to thank bkinfo in general, although it is overly negatively slanted, for the effort in ensuring that BK organisations are more accountable when such things are reported / happen.

PeaceOnEarth -- Wait. Where is verifiable info about the claims being made here? (other than the original report in the newspaper alleging this case)? Is all the conclusions based on what someone heard or said? This makes it difficult to talk about when we do not know what is fact and what is not....

Where is verifiable info about the claims being made here? (other than the original report in the newspaper alleging this case)?

The newspaper article based on police records. The BKWSU should itself be seeking to clarify what exactly happened and if a crime was committed they should be proactively doing everything they can to co-operate fully with law enforcement so that anyone who commits a crime faces justice.

The main thrust of responses to these reports on bk.info is that the organisation’s first reaction in such cases is hypocritical, seeking to protect its public image so it protects the culprits from facing charges and denigrate the victims because of the effect on their public image. They only take the ethical steps to proper rectification of wrongs when they have no other choice. The BKs, however they like to think of themselves, are no different to so many other organisations who exist on the basis of offering a ”higher standard” . Funny that.

I came to know about this incident through bk.info. I also got to know about this from a BK who has other explanation. He said that for such cases, BKWSU is not responsible but those culprit are fully responsible. Then a user on bk.info reported news about all that bribe, food supply & treatment of the victim by BKWSU ( that he suffered as result of karmas while the culprits did not followed shrimat etc etc). The BK supported the later part but got stunned (as he is very faithful BK) & was clueless why BKWSU used money power in this.

Whatever be the reality, a snapshot of this reported case in a newspaper is available on bk.info in the same thread, you can take it as an evidence. It is in Hindi & has been translated in English in another post. You may search which newspaper published this report & then contact them for details. And probably if media has also not been bribed, then you may get whole reality of this case [such cases are not published in newspaper without complete information & evidences]. That report also mentions names of some officers, you may contact them also for detailed information.

And few BKs (who do not like to be in the system due to their own reasons) who knew about this case contacted & confirmed through PM on bk.info (i would like to keep their identities anonymous). So, this was another chance for BKWSU to show its support to truth, morality & ethics but they, i think, let this opportunity slip off ( i think, its all because of biased intellect). Why they are not accepting that a BK can go out of rules & commit such heinous crimes. For this, both should have been punished but another post mentions that culprit have been shifted in a luxurious department. So, any BK who is in Shantiwan can contact them personally for information and can know about why they were shifted, is some senior rank BK trying to defame them for power conflicts etc etc.

Anything is possible, i am just a reader & whatever i reflect is result on basis of what i got to know. That piece of paper appears too genuine to ignore.

OK, I found this translation (by "Save Innocents" on the bkinfo forum) of the news article in question.

Abu Road: A 29 year old youngster working in a VIP Bhandara (someone tell what's bhandara called in English, it's basically a "function" where thousands of people eat together at one place to nurture brotherhood) registered a complaint in police for getting forced to have unnatural sex for 4 days by two persons (both male).

On instruction of S.P. , Rajiv Pachaar, Sadar police registered the complaint. According to Kailaashwan, the chief police officer of Sadar circle, victim, living in Shantiwan area, informed police about the incident that happened when Kailashbhai & prakashbhai forced him to have unnatural sex in a room repeatedly from 27 to 30 August. After that, they threatened him & made agreement not to disclose anything. And now they are again pressurizing him for doing same.

Are there any other news articles I have missed? I just want to be sure I have all the most reliable sources in in view before making any comment. I don't see any claim that the police were bribed in the article. Is there another news article or are these further claims only from other forum members?