discmonkey42 wrote:Am I missing something, or have I just not learned to throw the Volt and Shock yet as it was their first day in my hands?

And how do I know if I have a 1st or 2nd run Shock (sorry if I missed that info and question is redundant)?

I would definitely throw them some more and see if the distance gap narrows. I've had PDs that I could throw farther than the Volt in the field, but for fairway driver type golf lines on the course I find them pretty interchangeable. The yellow champystar PDs I've had in my bag the longest do not glide too well, so the MVP drivers are easily as long or longer than those are. Depending on what weights you are throwing the MVP drivers in, perhaps you should go lighter. So far I've been liking their drivers 172-173 more than the max weights.

If your Shock was similar to your Volt then it is probably an early one, if it was considerably more HSS and LSS then it is probably a newer one.

discmonkey42 wrote:Am I missing something, or have I just not learned to throw the Volt and Shock yet as it was their first day in my hands?

And how do I know if I have a 1st or 2nd run Shock (sorry if I missed that info and question is redundant)?

I would definitely throw them some more and see if the distance gap narrows. I've had PDs that I could throw farther than the Volt in the field, but for fairway driver type golf lines on the course I find them pretty interchangeable. The yellow champystar PDs I've had in my bag the longest do not glide too well, so the MVP drivers are easily as long or longer than those are. Depending on what weights you are throwing the MVP drivers in, perhaps you should go lighter. So far I've been liking their drivers 172-173 more than the max weights.

If your Shock was similar to your Volt then it is probably an early one, if it was considerably more HSS and LSS then it is probably a newer one.

Thanks. Yeah, the Shock I have definitely does not fade much more than the Volt and it has high speed turn very similar to my OLFs. Will have to pick one up on line to compare. All 3 drivers I bought are 170, so not a weight issue. I'll definitely throw the MVPs a bunch more and see how the distance gap is. Thanks for the feedback!

I'm finding the Shock to pretty much be MVP's EX. It is faster with a bit more range, but the flight is very similar. The new Shocks are comparable to the older clear KC EXs (overstable but not FB overstable) and the early ones are flying like SEXs.

I've been throwing a pair of 173 shocks for a couple of weeks now. They're more overstable than I thought they would be. Somewhere between a teebird and firebird I'd say, but much closer to the firebird. (It's tough for me to compare to the FB for sure, cause mine is seasoned. I have a new-ish Predator though, and that is certainly beefier than the shock. I can throw the same shots though by simply throwing on a slight hyzer line. I no longer carry the pred.) I throw them forehand, backhand and for thumbers. I thought the shock would flip with a forehand, but they seem to perform well. (I still trust my trident for this shot more.) For thumbers, they fly almost as far as anything else I have, with the exception of the Z flick and the XxX. (I have two champion whippets BTW. They are highly overrated for thumbers IMHO.)

I've just about had it with MVP's discs at this point. I picked up a Shock this weekend to toss around, and the damn thing might as well be a Roadrunner. If this keeps up I won't even look their way again. I was expecting the disc I've seen Mike tossing around, not this flippy heap o crap.

Jeronimo wrote:I've just about had it with MVP's discs at this point. I picked up a Shock this weekend to toss around, and the damn thing might as well be a Roadrunner. If this keeps up I won't even look their way again. I was expecting the disc I've seen Mike tossing around, not this flippy heap o crap.

Yep, first Shock I tried was not stable. Second is a pig. Big difference from first run to second. I wouldn't judge the entire disc lineup on this, though. Not to mention that I think Mike C could post a video of him throwing pretty much any disc and it would make that disc look pretty damn good.

Pick up a Tangent or an Axis (but if you only did one, a Tangent). It will give you an entirely different perception of MVP. Their drivers are nice, and while in my bag now for trial may or may not stay there. Their mids, on the other hand, are pretty much there to stay.

Jeronimo wrote:I've just about had it with MVP's discs at this point. I picked up a Shock this weekend to toss around, and the damn thing might as well be a Roadrunner. If this keeps up I won't even look their way again. I was expecting the disc I've seen Mike tossing around, not this flippy heap o crap.

Yep, first Shock I tried was not stable. Second is a pig. Big difference from first run to second. I wouldn't judge the entire disc lineup on this, though. Not to mention that I think Mike C could post a video of him throwing pretty much any disc and it would make that disc look pretty damn good.

Pick up a Tangent or an Axis (but if you only did one, a Tangent). It will give you an entirely different perception of MVP. Their drivers are nice, and while in my bag now for trial may or may not stay there. Their mids, on the other hand, are pretty much there to stay.

I have probably 30 MVP discs at this point covering every new mold they've released. I have Ions that fly completely different from one another, Vectors that couldn't be more black and white in their stabilities, Amps that range from ridiculously useless to pretty damn nice, and Volts that are money and some that are rollers.

I am annoyed, my patience is thinning. All discs (from all manufacturers) need run #'s in the stamps, from now on.