It has been reported that Admiral Rogers did not inform his “superiors” of the meeting with President-Elect Trump. President Obama is out of the country. Def Sec Ash Carter and DNI Chair James Clapper, both loyalists to President Obama, do not necessarily align with Admiral Rogers (they would also be the “superiors” per se’).

Many pixels are still needed to bring clarity to the picture. However, reasonable spidey senses indicate the libertarian sensibility side (smaller intrusion of government, less snooping and more freedom liberty etc) of President-Elect Trump (think R and R Mercer here too) is antithetical to those who made the Patriot Act a hammer instead of a scalpel.

As such, the current Pentagon (Ash Carter), and DNI (Clapper), are recommending President Obama to deliver Admiral Michael Rogers a quick exit.

(Via Reuters) The heads of the Pentagon and the U.S. intelligence community have recommended to President Barack Obama that the director of the National Security Agency, Admiral Michael Rogers, be removed from his position, sources familiar with the matter said on Saturday.

The recommendation by Defense Secretary Ash Carter and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, first reported by The Washington Post, was delivered to the White House last month.

Obama chose Rogers to take over at the NSA in 2014 and tasked him with repairing the damage after the huge leaks about its electronic spying program by contractor Edward Snowden.

But there have been other security lapses, the sources said, including the one that led to the arrest of NSA contractor Harold Martin earlier this year. Rogers is being considered as a potential new director of national intelligence by President-elect Donald Trump, a post that oversees all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies.

The Washington Post reported that a decision by Rogers to travel to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday without notifying superiors caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, but the recommendation to remove him predated his visit. The White House, Pentagon, NSA and office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment on the matter. A Trump campaign spokesman had no immediate comment.

The Obama administration wants to split leadership at the National Security Agency and U.S. Cyber Command, arguing that the job of leading two agencies with differing missions is too much for one person. But some members of Congress, led by Republican Senator John McCain, the Senate Armed Services Committee chairman, oppose that plan, saying that Cyber Command needs access to the NSA’s resources to do its job effectively. (link)

It was grossly unfair to put up this link without explaining what it was about. I clicked out it. It turns out that it is totally unrelated to the subject being discussed here; it was put up only because someone thought it was funny. I did not, and it totally wasted my time. I come here to understand the issues, and not to have someone’s idea of fun. Please, if you put up a frivolous link, indicate that it has no relevance to the subject being discussed.

There are three people in my humble opinion who deserve to be pardoned, Assange, Snowden and Manning.What happened to Manning was a huge travesty of justice. If you read what he turned over to Assange it was something that a decent God fearing person would release.He released the torture going on in camps over seas. They had to put them overseas because what they were doing was unconstitutional and really war crimes. The torture they used was beyond the pale. They put “things” up the anus of prisoners, sodomized them, waterboarded them hundreds of time, deprived them of sleep, had them naked for days on end.Bush, Cheney and Rumsfield are guilty of war crimes to put it lightly. We need another Nuremberg trial set up for these criminals. One man, recently in an article on drudge, had to have surgery on his anus. Google Bradley Manning or Chelsey Manning and read what he gave Assange. My father was a American POW of the Germans and was never put thru that kind of brutal treatment. He was starved but toward the end of the war the Germans were starving as well. Prisoners were shot if they tried to escape,but to use perversion in the manner the Bush family is known for is downright criminal. The truth needs to come out about these elites and what they are hiding. I feel confident Trump knows about it. I hope and pray he starts trials for the people involved to let all those in the future who would think they are above the law and can commit these kind of atrocities will think twice before they do it. Our congress had to know what was going on. Civilized nations should never even believe something like this is lawful Manning is serving twenty five years in prison while the Clinton’s and Bush’s walk around free. They are the criminals.

I read a lot about it at the time, too. They were also imprisoning and torturing women and some girls (allowing them to be gang raped, etc). There was a children’s detention center in Baghdad, or around it. The International Red Cross tried and tried to get in to inspect it, but were never allowed in to see the children. The US refused them entry. They are supposed to allow the IRC inspections. The IRC were never able to make a report about what went on there.

Knew some people who went through AIT with Manning…always considered him shady and couldn’t understand how he got in.
I’m not sure I’m at the point of pardoning whatever he calls himself now.

My mother’s cousin was put through pretty brutal treatment by the Germans (his life was saved by some Russian POWs who took pity on him by sneaking him some scraps of food) — I’m not ready to go the moral equivalency route just yet either.

The Clintons, Bushes, and Obamas are evil people, but let’s not let the other side off the hook just yet; they’re not exactly angels.

Probably also time to just put away the notion that there are such things as “a civilized people” when it comes to war…there are individual saints, some significant demons, and a whole lot of ordinary sinners.

Admiral Michael Rogers sounds like a patriot. His meeting with Trump may have been to inform him of Obama’s continued treasonous acts to destroy emails revealing corrupt activities of his Administration.
Before Obama terminates Admiral Rogers, back-up all files before bleaching the drives.

What do you mean, nothing to show for it? Don’t millions of “undocumented immigrants” from Central America and other places unknown, lovingly helped into the country without investigation, and ferried into our communities by bus and plane, in secret and at taxpayer expense, count for something? If only as keepers of soccer balls and teddy bears?

I have hated the DHS since they robbed me of $6k worth of stuff at Washington Reagan airport. I’d bought a big suitcase to bring overseas with me and bring back some of my stuff. I threw one of my carryon bags inside the suitcase so it wouldn’t be empty. When I got to London, there was nothing in the bag except for the mocking “we searched your bag” notification. Long story but nobody helped me try to recover my things (even the airport police would not file a report) and in the end I got a check for about $1500 from United Airlines.

I agree – they have been chomping at the bit to expand TSA to railways and roads, too. And the internal terror is totally a problem that THEY created – intentionally. The scofflaw Obamafeds (featuring Red Diaper Jeh) created the problems by opening up the borders and making the border patrol stand down. Let the terrorists in – more terror – create more police state in response, and then tell the apparatus to stand down to let in more terror. Rinse and repeat.

It’s easy to go back in history now and see how they did it. First the Clintons let all the defenses down, and allowed UBL to fester and grow. Beelzebubba would pretend every once in a while to worry about it, but no – he let it go. Meanwhile his little errand-girl Jamie Gorelick set things up for 9/11, and voila! – planes into towers. Bush gets his security state and off we go, as the border problem continues. Hand-wringing commences, all designed to create more cheap labor and build the federal police state.

The Bush family ties to Hitlers nazi Germany run deep. The things they put in place are very similar to Hitler’s policies. Prescott Bush tried to do a coupe d’etat against the Roosevelt administration by asking a General to take over the government for he and his friends. Read up on it, the info is on the internet. The General went to President Roosevelt and told him. .I have often wondered why Roosevelt didn’t throw Prescott Bush in prison, he the other perps. Had he done it we wouldn’t had a takeover of our government by the Bush/Clinton regime.Thank the Lord for President elect Trump. Justice is finally, hopefully going to be served against these criminal people.

I hope it is all on the table. Hearing too many pontificate on “Trump needs XXX for position YYY, someone who knows how government works.” I just want to scream “HELLOOOO!” Trump won because government DOESN’T work any more. I don’t want any of those folks in the new administration. They either broke it or haven’t been smart enough to figure out how to fix it ’cause they’re not smart enough to see that it is broken.

I kinda agree with you, but also disagree. Before he changes too much stuff around, he has to get it working better the way it is. Like a house repair. If your bathrooms all need fixing, you’re better off making one work with duct tape while you do an actual fix to the rest….or you’re going to end up stinky and peeing in the back yard.

I expect Trump will focus first on Obamacare and jobs. Once he gets those properly fixed, then I think he’ll take off the duct tape and fix the other pieces.

Anytime any government any where in the world starts using terms like MOTHERLAND, FATHERLAND, and now HOMELAND, you know darn well that they are trying to sell you a bill of goods. Specifically FASCISM.

The secret services original job was investigation of counterfeiting and treasury (stock&bonds) fraud. Their mandate dates back to the civil war. They simply were the first federal investigative entity so they did everything federal, including protection of federal officials.

Without checking, something tells me the politician’s were being bought off by the counter-fitters and the whistle-blower politician’s needed protection by federal agent’s not bought off by the counter-fitter’s.

Recall Jim West and Artemis Gordon from “The Wild Wild West” were Secret Service Agents in President Grant’s administration with focus on combating counterfeiting. I suppose I am giving away my age with that reference.

Customs and Border Protection was also under the treasury. That’s because they collected tariff duties and etc. One of the only agencies that was self-funding, and another one that’s been around forever.

listening to anonymous 8chan poster’s (TOR browser, not secure, but that’s another topic), the CIA & NSA are at battle with each other and Snowden was supposedly a CIA attack on NSA that failed to do damage.

Last FBI investigation led to agent’s turning in resignation’s over Comey’s stance on the Clinton’s.

Fake Assange interview via RT. last Tweet by Assange was either attempt to thwart Kerry’s possible death of Assange, or embassy assault and capture of Assange. 8Chan said all WikiLeaks members were captured and their computer equipment seized, forced to sign National security letter’s and gag order’s. DDOS attacks around the world right after, prevented the “dead-man switch” from ever being released.
Data Assange held was more important than result’s of presidential election? Possibly evidence of “shadow government”. All Tweet’s after Assange’s capture were from CIA/NSA, not WikiLeaks, all stuff released afterwards were juicy nothingburgers. Assange said he would release info that would put Hillary in prison. That info was now secured by CIA/NSA?

All of this is interesting conspiracy stuff but not substantiated by any means.

President-Elect Donald Trump is now receiving the highest level security briefings. AND, as part of that architecture, a secure communication network is established within Trump Tower (as it would be with any Presidential communication apparatus)….

Yet, Reuters -using information from those within government- frames Admiral Rogers meeting with Donald Trump as “not informing his superiors”?

Which indicates White House “spin”, or “their admin perspective”, toward such a meeting between Admiral Rogers and the President-Elect.

If the current Admin had no “concern” about the meeting, this would be a nothingburger and never even cross the radar of a media release.

This has been going on since the day after the election. President Obama can say whatever he wants about smooth transition, but he is a part of actively sabotaging Pres-Elect Trump. The thing about Trump wanting his kids to get clearance – where did that come from? What about the leak regarding Trump being overwhelmed about hiring 4000 people?

I would prefer they just steal all the T’s from the keyboards and lift some of the silverware.

In my opinion what they are now doing is treasonous. I for one want the Hillary thing to just go away, but if this stuff gets ratcheted up I hope there is a full investigation and people – no matter how powerful – are held accountable.

They are trying to sabotage our country because they want Trump to fail.

To me it is one in the same. Imagine buying a house to renovate and the previous owner changes all the locks before you take possession. Now you have to go fix the locks before you can even get working on the house itself.

They are just putting up roadblocks. Makes it harder to get where you are going.

Meanwhile he continues to make the media look like fools. I have no doubt Trump is having staffers leak unlikely rumors (such as Mitt for SOS) because they know the media will run with it and look stupid when it doesn’t happen. By the time he gets in office nobody will trust the media because they don’t have any idea what is going on and it shows.

BTW, the total numbers for Trump’s current employees, not including temporary development and construction jobs, has been estimated at 67,000. Each Trump property has between 1000 to 2500 employees. Just sayin’. Each new property takes 1 to 3 years to complete, some longer; however, the hiring of hotel employees normally starts within the last 6 months of a project, some much less.

I work in Trump’s same line of business, so just adding up an average amount of employees per resort or golf course (I count 55 in the portfolio, which was not including branded residential properties), the numbers would be there.

Also and oddly, Money at CNN looked at the ‘multiplier’ figure, which calls some of these out as ancillary jobs so there could be a range from 40K to 60K:

If you add in the consultant and construction teams per project (each with about two years worth of work), the total count would be a lot higher over the years. On a large project, there may be 30 consultants or more and maybe 100 to 200 construction workers, multitudes of vendors…you see how the Trump Organization creates a lot of jobs and work. Not even to mention local continuing tax revenue.

You’re welcome! Sorry to be a bit long winded, but I find most people are unaware at the size and complexity handled by the Trump Organization. This group literally builds and manages little cities all over the world.

I was in construction and the day Trump announced I told DW if Trump is serious he will win because he is a turn-around artist who actually gets things done. From bringing a project up out of the mud to opening day is not for the faint of heart. The toughest part is dealing with all the petty bureaucrats and regs….. a fine place to hone one’s political skills.

All of that information above about his business——is why it irritates me no end when some idiot on MSM refers to him as a “reality TV star”. (which became his side interest after he had finished building his business)

Begin with the end in mind??? The end would be a new president. the end in mind would be a coverup on a massive scale. I am not good at things this complicated…Whatever is actually happening, it stinks… what I don’t understand is why this type of loyalty to POTUS 44? What has he done to earn any of it??

It also demonstrates the worst thing about Globalists.
There IS NO LOYALTY to country.
They’ve decided they know better, so if it comes down to loyalty to party or country OR Globalist agenda, they always pick Globalist agenda.

There is a loyalty factor but a lot of what we are seeing could be people people covering their butts. There has been zero real leadership for 8 years, so agencies have been able to operate without any real oversight.

I also think that Obama has intentionally placed weak people into positions of power to make those agencies ineffective. Some of the people running this country are unqualified to be doing so. Many are out of the league.

Get real leadership in place. Boost moral. Promote the good guys/white hats. Weed out the bad guys/black hats. This is just one of the many ways the swamp will be drained.

Wikileaks is compromised! It is said that one brave soul is trying to activate the ill switch that was set off when Julian Assange was raided and his internet cut off. There is no proof, but this is what I believe via info.

Hope I’m not a fool for believing it, but it make sense. Why didn’t the 33k emails drop? Why haven’t we seen JA? Why has wikileaks been so “different” in their tweets?

This is the article that convinced me that Trump leaked the tax return himself. It makes perfect sense when considering that Trump creates the narrative he chooses and masterfully uses the media to run with it.

“Trump can talk about his comeback story and America’s comeback story while still bashing the hoaxng media for publishing “illegally obtained” or “possibly forged” documents.

Recent polls show that only 29% of people trust fact-checking websites. It’s better to leak documents because you can attack the hoaxing media.

Trump even nodded his head respectfully when leaking his own returns:

The three documents arrived by mail at The Times with a postmark indicating they had been sent from New York City. The return address claimed the envelope had been sent from Trump Tower.

amwick: Obama has done nothing to earn this type of loyalty. In fact, the loyalty is not to Obama, it is to the power structure behind him.

When SD says “begin…with the end in mind” my mind goes to the end I fear most and the end I see as driving President Trump’s biggest foes: globalism. (I am not saying this is what SD means here, but it is where my mind goes.)

Before this election cycle began I told family members that there was only one issue in this election that would matter: globalism vs. sovereignty. There were plenty of candidates – both D and R – who would uphold globalism, I just did not think we had anyone to stand up for our sovereignty.

Then Donald Trump rode down the escalator.

Somewhere during Obama’s terms in office, I realized it was all about globalism. I began thinking and re-thinking everything in politics – and religion – from the viewpoint of globalism as the end game. Boy, did that change a bunch of my thinking.

Anyway, that “end” is the first filter I use to begin interpreting everything that is happening now. Sundance and the Treepers have opened my eyes in many regards that way.

And, as has been said before, we are in dangerous times. May the white hats step forward, even if they must in the shadows.

From Dinesh Desusa———–BTW—Trump had me at the ESCALATOR RIDE. I just sense he was anti-everything that has been happening to my America! NOTHING he said or did on the campaign trail was going to change my mind ! My Brother and sister in law—–staunch old time southern Dems—-were right there with me.

What a ride Mr. Trump has given us all. Pray fervently for his continued safety, people!

“Then Donald Trump rode down the escalator.”….triggered memories of the westerns I grew up watching where the good guy always shows up at the opportune time, usually riding a white horse. Trump just used an escalator. Same hero, same white horse. May God protect President e Trump.

I was thinking the same thing when I saw the pics of the WH staff when Trump came to visit obama after the election. The sadness, the revulsion, the hostility in their faces and body language. Such loyalty to a narcissist I do not understand.

Remember, they were traumatized by a complicit media who had pumped up Hillary’s poll numbers for months. They were taken utterly by surprise when Trump took state after state.

Before election night, many of them thought they were staying, either in their current jobs or different appointed positions, with a Hillary administration. In a matter of a few hours on a shocking election night, they suddenly had to worry about being out of a job with no hope of another political appointment in the next 4 years. Suddenly their mortgages, their kids’ schools–everything–was up in the air. Some of them were smart and had been looking for other positions anyway, often career positions in government. But many of them, certain of a Hillary win, did not. Now they are scrambling to see what is available.

Go read up on “pizzagate” over on Reddit and then you’ll have some answers as to why people who should be protecting our country, the “checks and balances” if you will, have been loyal to a president who is truly not loyal to the citizens of this country or the Constitution.

You can bet nsa has all the emails. People were talking about it on twitter. I really wonder why he went to see trump if he asked him to come. Did they know that obama was getting rid of him….I love spy stuff lol

NSA cannot, by charter, and does not, by virtual holy writ, get involved with anything internal to the US. It’s a DOD branch and posse commitatus applies. Various domestic intelligence and LEO groups have asked for their help over the years and been denied. So even if they scavenged (accidentally) the emails as they were being ferreted out by someone else, they would be constrained to, and would, delete them.

What about if another country had got them? They wouldn’t keep proof? The fbi leaks said that she had been compromised 5 times by other countries. ..what they just keep a record of that? Idk there is really a lot of anger going on about how she got away with so much especially with the pay fo play cf. Just wondering about the white hat /black hat.

Only part of NSA is DoD. You may recollect this after thinking about the recent move by the Obama administration to split off its DoD component (Cybercom). This is discussed in the Adm Rogers post SD put up. Posse comitatus only applies to the DoD piece of NSA.

Posse comitatus: The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States.

NSA does internal surveillance under FISA.

Not arguing w/ you, just clarifying some of the information in your post. NSA is primarily externally focused, as you point out….but the “holy writ” is not entirely correct.

First of all WHY are there 17 Intel Agencies? WHAT are these folks up to? I’ll bet NONE of them are sharing any info or secrets between these agencies and you wonder why events/tragedies happen. Admiral Rogers probably felt the need to inform Trump on covert situations going on within the government that are not for the good of the American people! TREASON, anyone?

There is ample sharing, I’ve worked for 3 of them and all Service Intel agencies report to Defense Intel Agency (DIA) who deals with NSA and CIA. Some roadblocks may exist between Defense Intel and FBI since they are under DOJ, and of course Dept. of State.

Can someone supply a flow chart in the Intel Agency network as to who report to whom? It would be useful to understand the chain of command and which agency reports directly to the President and which agency reports to S of S of Defense.

Watching the redistribution of virtually everyone to either the globalist camp or the nationalist American camp has been like watching an amoeba split in half, or watching the two poles of a magnet brought ever closer to a plate of iron shavings. Fascinating.

Once again, a flag officer on the outs with the corrupt Obama administration is being considered by Trump to lead in his administration.

I have to say, in the course of my military career (11 years, Marine Corps, 1988-1999, started out enlisted got out as a Captain) I don’t remember ever hearing of a flag-grade officer being “relieved for cause”, and I only knew of a single instance where a General fired a Colonel.

Do we not have in our intel services people who look out for our Republic..? Was there not this guy who said they do counter stuff when someone is trying to steal out Republic from us…??? I am so grateful to these heroes and I am sure some pay with their lives and we never know it.
Thank you to all the white hats that keep us save. We will be vigilant to keep our Republic in tact.

There’s been a lot of shuffling and re-shuffling (all the way down to NCO status) since he got in. Not all of it has been good (much was done under the auspices of cutting out deadwood and downscaling, and truly the services had a need for that, but a lot of bad can be done in the name of doing something necessary).
A lot of military folks would say we’ve already had a coup in this country…civilians just were unaware of it.

Per Reuters, Obama is the one who wants to split US Cyber Command from the NSA saying too big a job for one person. I agree. Also… it affords opportunities perhaps to wipe stuff from NSA banks which wouldn’t exist if they were separate?

Our “checks and balances” among just 3 branches of government have failed miserably under Obama’s lawlessness.

The more we fragment organizational structure, the faster we multiply ways to evade accountability, stovepipe information and understanding critical to “connecting the dots” for national defense, expand openings for espionage moles and cybersecurity breaches, and inhibit preventative actions and rapid response to crises.

Obama’s moves to divide security-agency command and control and replace patriots with political operatives reveal his Scorched Earth gameplan to undermine National Security and – as an Alinsky Operative – overwhelm the system to thwart the Trump Agenda.

Romney is also Globalist, ~ & the Powers that Be~~ wanted Obama to do the destruction~here in Our USA~! I think because Obama is Not a Natural Born Citizen {if he is one at all} & could do us IN more easily~!

The impeachment-proof, corrupt Attorney General hack is almost unbeatable – a form of castling. Trump and Congress MUST work with the States to create whatever Constitutional measures are needed to end the hack, and eject the next Eric Holder or Loretta Lynch. If Mark Levin needs to turn his Constitutional mind to it, then he had best get cracking. If we don’t fix it, they will use it again.

Trust that the Chinese have studied and hacked our Constitutional system as thoroughly as they owned OPM and Hillary’s homebrew server. We are not doing our due diligence to keep the commies out of power. The ChiComs probably have a list of 10 pathological federal configurations that they can help their DNC allies drive our government into, to keep Obama-like power in the hands of socialists. We need to find and fix them all.

Real simple. Obama neutered the third branch of government by the color of his skin. It sounds to illogical to be believed, but for what other reason can you and anyone else put forth that would have rendered the entire U.S. Congress impotent and totally unwilling or unable to perform the duties of their office as prescribed by oath to the U.S. Constitution. Please someone give me a reason other than Obama being the first black President. There cannot be one. What a dereliction of duty that Congress has performed these last 8 years. They all should be sent home. They aided and abetted criminality.

Totally agree JF . . . they aided and abetted TREASON . . . . Obama has actively worked against America’s interests for 8 years. He has lied to us, tried to destroy the middle class, bring Socialism to America through healthcare, disregarded the Constitution and brought the enemy into the WH . . . . he has not upheld his oath of office and not one person has tried to hold him accountable . . . . he has been allowed to run roughshod over America and her citizens and they all should be impeached for not honoring their oath to protect us from enemies foreign and domestic.

The majority of people in Congress & Obama & his NWO White House & others Placed in High Office in our Government over the last 40 years or so~~has Corrupted our Government from Within~! Yes Joan~~the NWO Globalist’s in Congress were totally Complicit in keeping Obama in office & themselves & these others in power.

We would be very wise to make sure the Ones that allowed this to occur, as well as the obvious perpetrators are ousted cleanly & completely as possible. That was NOT possible before TRUMP. Now we ALL must be very Vigilant & help get Rid of these Traitors like only “We the People” can do, at the ballot box.

We Must “REMEMBER”~! {Also Stay Aware of the Lying Press, in All forms}

The communists had been grooming Obama for the presidency because of his skin color. They have been playing the long game. Joanfoster I agree with your statement. The left has used the cry of racism to get their agenda done with a black president.

And the left doesn’t give a damn about Obama. He was a useful tool drunken on the elixir of power they put in his incompetent hands. History will show that he was truly a construct of the left from college onward.

W need some surveillance because we brought in so many people who have not been vetted properly. I do not know how it can be done without stepping on our rights.
I do not want another 9/11 or shooting of innocent people by a bunch of Jihadists.
This is a fine line between keeping is safe and our freedom.

The problem I see is the abuse by Obama and also Clinton. I sense that they used the surveillance to blackmail people and gain power. Maybe I am wrong but it seems like it. Why would otherwise good people cave into these evil people…?

Hillary was good at that in Arkansas. During the DNC selection, and over her long tenure. No one can stop her as she is as good as all these Chicago mafia. Pray for Trump and all white hats in government. (Refer to videos by Larry Nichols.) maybe Obama will make her mad.

You Forgot the Bushes~! Abuse was there just the Same as the other two~~but most conservatives had Blinders on because the 2 Bushes were “Republican’s”, All 4 TOOK this Nation Down~~& the Press helped. Obama was able to do the most obvious damage & continues to do so~~but TRUMP has already Unhinged some of the mechanism~~by his Strong Nationalistic presence.

Declare the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization and deport all. (Many in our government already) CAIRE seems to promote this type activity as do certain mosques. Why are they even here unless as KSM of Gitmo fame said to establish a caliphate. Good use of homelandsecurity would be to send all these Traitors to their own country as no doubt they are still citizens in their own country( if not buy an island to place them. Calling on Muslims to overthrow the US government as a CAIRE official from California did is TREASON .(Trump is bad president selection according to him)

Trump as President-Elect would presumably have authority to gain access to the highest-classification materials.

Admiral Rogers has no doubt observed Obama’s withdrawal of both Border Patrol Enforcement and Drone Surveillance from protection of our southern border against the Invasion of Illegals and Infiltration by ISIS.

Admiral Rogers would presumably be honoring President Obama’s commitment to transparency and complete cooperation with the incoming President, by ensuring that Trump had what the NSA had on Obama, his Administration, his Funders, the Congress, the Black Hats, Foreign Leaders, the Clinton Cabal, the Globalist Corporate Racketeers, the Treasonous Tech Titans and the Marauding Media.

IMO there are a lot of sideshows and deliberate obfuscation going on right now to distract the public view from massive cover-up operations, criminality and related in-fighting going on in the government. I have a feeling paper shredders and BleachBit are working overtime in the District of Columbia as we speak!

The reality of the Trump victory is now blooming in the understanding of those in the federal buildings across Washington D.C. For some, possibly many, it is not hard to imagine plans being hatched, if not activated, for the destruction of federal records that may be embarrassing, compromising or criminal. One might imagine, on the night of Tuesday November 8, D.C. office lights commonly unlit, burning throughout the night as operatives cover tracks, clean messes and destroy federal records. Records owned by the people.
Earlier in his campaign future President Trump indicated he would be meeting with department and agency heads to get their assessment of waste within their respective areas of responsibility.
It would certainly be appropriate for him to mention in a closing rally that he will also be asking these department and agency heads if they are aware of any destruction, alteration or unauthorized transfer of federal records in the possession of or under the control of their agency or department. He might also mention that he will ask what steps, if any, were taken, to protect federal records held within the scope of their responsibility during this election cycle and especially from October 30, 2016 on.
Finally, he might point out, in a rally comment, the statutes regarding the preservation of federal records along with penalties for noncompliance. (Rudy to provide)
With trillions of dollars at stake, there is much to hide, cover up and destroy. The rats are already very busy…..

Snowden also linked to a McClatchy story that linked to this piece by Pompeo in National Review http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428822/some-republicans-weak-national-security. It includes disturbing – IMO – comments about Putin’s (imaginary) imperialism and the credulous belief that we can simultaneously topple Assad, oppose Al Nusra and destroy ISIS. Who the hell does he think would be left to govern Syria – the “Free Syrian Army”? Sounds eerily reminiscent of George W Bush thinking he can usher democracy into the Middle East.

After reading this article by Pompeo I think he was a TERRIBLE choice to head up the CIA. What kind of vetting did the transition team do? Pompeo is not very complimentary towards Trump calling his plan to build a wall “tragically naive”.

I agree. It seems Pompeo is for total domestic spying. At least thank goodness, he isn’t heading the NSA. If he really believes what he said in that article, I don’t want him anywhere in our government. He is part of the problem I hoped Trump would eliminate. We’ll see.

That article was the bluster of someone trying to sell himself as the answer for America. He sounds like he is trying to set the stage for a run at the presidency while calling every one else a milquetoast. I would keep a close eye on that guy he has an ego problem.
Looking at the types of ego you have to contend with at this level I can see how Reagan was back stabbed by the Bushes.
I hope I never have to witness Melania hanging on to Donalds’ casket like Nancy did. That broke my heart.
I don’t trust anyone but Don jr., Eric and Jeff Sessions.

President Trump is a man to behold. Just right now on FOX – reporting that he came out the door and asked the press “How are you all holding up? Do you need anything?” The press said “it’s getting cold, How about some hot chocolate?” Within minutes there was hot chocolate, coffee and food for the press.

“…The words “conflict of interest” don’t begin to describe what the Trump administration is shaping up to look like — though there will be plenty of conflicts of interest with administration figures such as Rudy Giuliani, who made millions from foreign governments and corporations, some of which are hostile to the United States. But the real action is going to be in Trump’s own family.

Anti-nepotism laws prevent Trump from giving his family members jobs in the administration. But don’t think that’s going to stop them from being active participants in U.S. government decision-making, or using the fact that Trump is president to keep money flowing in. In fact, we could see the president enriching himself and his family on a scale that we normally associate with post-Soviet kleptocrats and Third World dictators.”

This looks like a story some honest reporter submitted about Clinton (honestly folks, she announced that Bill would be in charge of economy issues!!). Anyway, the reporter was no doubt fired, and then they pulled this story out of the trash bin, and changed Clinton to Trump.

Yes, as far as I can see, there is a revolt in the FBI/CIA Intel agencies as Snowden says. That other ex-Intel person, Steve Piecznik reported the same. Also in the military and Flynn is head of it there I think – so Trump is aware of all this. According to Piecznik, they had a big part in the counter coup against Clintons/Obama re Wikileaks, etc. and have warned them. They also want the investigation into Clinton Foundation done and the guilty indicted. So I have high hopes it WILL be done. Hallelujah!!!

There’s been a revolt ever since Hillary threw the CIA Department under the bus in the first Benghazi hearing.

It may even go as far back as to Snowden’s revolt. MSM has been intertwined in gvmt work for quite awhile now. Patterns emerge.

There was a desperate attempt to paint a portrait of Snowden as a low-level high-school educated “kid”. The revelation tying Snowden to Sweden’s banking industry and a particular banker who’s sitting in a fed pen changed that “painted-picture” real quick. Snowden is a multiplehatter, not to be trusted; instinct-led opinion.

Try further back than that and involving all levels of all our intel and security agencies…things have been percolating for quite some time. Really picked up speed in the last decade (ok, last 8 years), but this isn’t new stuff at all.

I said this back during the finals of the primaries/beginnings of the general: if you want to know what things are going down, observe what the praetorians do. Not a bad idea to keep watching.

Admiral Rogers traveling to NY couldn’t expect to go unnoticed. That’s fine, but I hope other lower level white hats (perhaps even some not known by the black hats to BE white hats) are finding ways to connect with the Trump team that can’t be discerned – avoiding cell phones, email, even post-2005 autos with onboard computers…

Interesting… In this digital age, electrons don’t really disappear. Keep in mind, if you send an email, there are now two copies that exist – the one on the originating machine and the one on the recipient machine assuming it was sent to a single recipient. If the recipient forwarded that email to another single person, there are now 4 copies – the original sender’s outbox, the first recipient’s inbox, the first recipient’s outbox, and now the second recipient’s inbox. Judging by what Sundance is saying, the intelligence community must be one big unstable powder keg about ready to blow apart…

close but no cigar for you…..you forget the ones on the servers your email routed through….NSA and hacker are basically this type as they intercept and deencrypt your email putting it then on their own servers

The Obama Administration has just 62 days to trash all of the evidence of their MASSIVE government corruption which is precisely why the Trump MSM pile-on continues. Think about it, after taking MAJOR losses in subscribers, ratings, and most importantly, profits, places like CNN, The New York Times and The Washington Post continue the same extremely negative and bias coverage of Trump even after, in some cases, making a written acknowledgement that they need to change their political coverage post election!

Obviously the media is never going to be fans of Trump or cover any Republican fairly, but they also don’t want to fade into complete obscurity either. So, with their entire business empire on the line, why the continued pile-on? Well, in my opinion, the answer is simply because the White House needs continual distractions. They need negative Trump headlines to dominate the media to obscure what is actually going on. They are also desperately trying to discredit every single person associated with the Trump Administration so that when truth does get revealed, and criminal charges potentially get filed, it will look like the work of an unstable and vindictive administration fabricating evidence for the sole purpose of seeking political revenge.

The good news is that the MSM has pretty much written their own irrelevance so it will all likely fail in the end. That being said, January 20th cannot come soon enough! 🙂

My mom just said Trump needs to appoint a woman to a Cabinet post. I asked why. She said because if he doesn’t it will give the enemy fodder. I said what Trump does is irrelevant, haters gonna hate whatever. She agreed. I then told her that she was acting like a cuck and if Trump felt the best person for every job was a white man so be it.

But is OK to drone innocent people ? Is ok for mcCain to meet with terrorists but not ok to establish a peaceful relationship with Russia that does not end in Nuke warfare…?
I think Mc Cain lost his mind. Who reelected him again…????

singingsoul, when I voted on 8th, I held my nose and voted for Kirk (Illinois), but I also said a prayer that if we can keep the numbers and cut loose a few losers I would be very grateful. I thanked the Lord on that one and who he chose. McCain was spared. Age? Still a need for him? For the most part , I am just watching and listening.

Great points, singingsoul. The terrorists McCain posed with for photos tortured, maimed, and killed children, women, old men…in horrific ways that sear the imagination. He can pontificate all he wants about our next President and waterboarding. Those photos of him and terrorists erase any credibility he may have once had on the subject.

While I cannot prove it beyond a shadow of doubt, every fiber of my being screams Benghazi was a rendition site.

(There are photos out there of an underground type bunker. I couldn’t verify the location using background in photos. Three sides of the building are dirt. The fourth was exposed. Language barrier ended my search.)

That is such a great point – the sheer hypocrisy of McCain doing all he did to create a million times more death, torture, and cruelty than the small amount of “enhanced interrogation” which went on to prevent – again – millions of times more death, torture, and cruelty.

Hope somebody does some great visual memes of this. McISIS deserves them.

McCain a proven traitor and big time loser. I appreciated his service, but this spoiled brat was evidently a bad soldier, pilot and always out for himself. He still is. So disappointed the good doctor Kelley did not beat him in the primary.

Well, it looked the torture or threat of torture worked on McCain. He told the enemy everything he could about the command he flew out of and the command structure as he knew it. So, I don’t know where he gets the “it doesn’t work” stuff.

The man also has no idea how well the commies learned to push his buttons after his not-so-brief stay in Hotel Commie. He performed exactly as expected in 2008, thanks to his awesome training. And he never really had the slightest idea. Designated failure McCain failed, and designated winner Obama won.

whereas I do not appreciate his service……4 crashed jets and MILLIONS of dollars later he got himself captured and aided and abetted the enemy…….the only thing saving his butt in those days was an Admiral for a father and grandfather…..now he is protected for his globalist and treasonous attitude to America

What’s hilariously ironic is that Trump stole her alleged Main Street agenda, and is looking to actually make good on it. Meanwhile, Wall Street shut her up real good, just like they did Obama, and all Fauxcahontas can do is screech like a harpy!

Consider the fun that’s coming as the Obama administration lefties realize there is too much documentary evidence. AKA the last time the Germans took Paris. The EPA will openly violate air pollution regulations.

One thing is clear to me, the House Committee Rep Chaffetz knows more than he lets on publicly. We’re still dealing with a dog and pony show.

Through the Podesta emails, Justin Cooper is in many as cc’d in. Not only did he work for Pres Clinton, but he worked for Obama too, as his email address indicated. His name was also addressed in the FBI-Clinton released documents Sundance posted here.

Yet, during Justin Cooper’s testimony, and throughout questioning, it was very much a narrow focus kept to Coopers work with and through Bill Clinton’s as BC personal IT guy and the transfer to Hillary’s work server(s) where his work was to have ended and Combetta begins.

Chaffetz purposefully and carefully laid out a very narrow scope of truth.

The Obama Administration still must authorize whom would speak with the Pres-Elect. They did not want the admiral speaking with Trump. Apparently the admiral had not been authorized, but neither had he been prohibited. So he just went on his own. (If he’s going to be canned anyway, what does he have to lose?) He had things he felt the Pres-Elect needed to know NOW. After Rogers is let go, he can no longer present and discuss classified information with Trump because he loses his access. Trump could receive it, but the admiral could not longer give it. Something big is up if Rogers did this.

Who will prevail? Will the most incriminating evidence of the Obama administration be preserved or destroyed? It is still a big unknown how far elitists and globalists are willing to go in their desperation to avoid justice, or in retaining whatever power they can.

When the intelligence is altered to be what I want to hear, it is not intelligence.
Clapper, Brennan, Carter, general’s, admirals, zeros advisors, etc,etc are all complicit in high treason and they know the penalty.
The lsm were fed the false intelligence to feed/sell to us.
If you were a white hat where would you go, your boss or the media or Trump?

That is not a problem. Once Trump is sworn in he can have the WH debugged. If one is unsure if you are bugged or not, then turn on some loud heavy metal music and talk closely with the other person. Another way is to write notes to each other thus no sounds at all. Then burn the papers.

There are too many intelligence agencies and departments with over lapping resposibilities. To drain the swamp everything that was created after 911 needs to be rolled back and cancelled. Just like all the trade agreements have destroyed the US economy these anti terroism laws have caused a loss of freedom.

We also need to simply the alphabet soup of federal law enforcement. Instead of the Secret Service, ICE, FBI, ATF, and on and on there needs to be one Federal Law Enforcement Agency responsible for enforcing federal laws.

I’m ‘on alert’ because after I read this the first time, the name of THIS Mike Rodgers came up on local AM radio news report – I think ‘charges’ of spilling top secret info. Sorry, I did not capture the exact news in documented form, but enough to get the hair on the back of my neck standing up.

Hmmmm is Admiral Michael Rogers , Director of the NSA , where the Clinton emails leaked from ?

The commies never expected Hillary to lose the RIGGED ELECTION . The ENEMEDIA had shown proficiency at convincing ” HIGH INFORMATION VOTERS ” read HIGH PROPAGANDA DISINFORMATION VOTERS see also # Never dupes …..that NOT voting made them “PRINCIPLED ” in the past .

THE MONSTER VOTE is yet to be accurately tallied IMO !!

The likes of CIA operation mockingbird Glenn Beck was SUPPOSED TO … LEAD EVANGELICAL Christians AWAY from voting for anyone not in the establishment .

Mark Levin did his best to assure his capture bonded flock would cast a protest vote or stay home as well …epic fail by both ” GRUBERS ”

All of this …MAY HAVE …made the commie Obammie administration careless and sloppy with their records , emails, and communications . The arrogance and hubris ..after all the MEDIA would cover for just about ANYTHING After BENGHAZI …” it was a youtube video ” sheesh !!

WHITE HATS are coming forward with the goods on the BLACK HATS in the Obama administration .

This is only the beginning !! Did Michael Rogers brief President Elect Trump on matters of National Security concerning CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER …..THE REAL THREAT inside the BELTWAY ?

Trump as President elect …doesn’t he now have security clearances for such briefings ????

I most definitely have settled on January 20th as being the end when Donald Trump is to take the oath of office, and the transfer of power is legally a done deal. I hope. Until then, the Obama administration has the potential to wreck a whole lot of havoc across the land.

Not sure if anyone has posted this. Don’t let the title throw you off, the info pertinent to this post starts about 2;00 in. What Sundance has been saying appears to be 100% true according to this. If what’s being said is accurate we came a hairs breath to having the election stolen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKhGEeZSQs0

Let us not forget…Trump is sending in “Landing Teams” which is a smart move. I am sure they will be watching for any skullduggery going on or any attempt to do so. He needs to get more of them in place as soon as possible.

I am going to put this here. Removing it is ok by me. There was never any path to going after Clinton herself. That path’s end was always Mitch McConnell, who, after becoming Majority Leader of the Senate in 2014, said the Uniparty Senate would never impeach Obama. That path was always closed. The only viable path which did not involve Obama was the path to the Clinton Foundation. Comey is stupid. So is McConnell.

I believe Rogers is a good guy. The list in the Wash Post is a list of Rogers accomplishments following the orders given by Obama, which were “repairing the damage after the huge leaks about its electronic spying program by contractor Edward Snowden.” Anyone from Chicago (or Illinois, or even the U.S.) knows how Chicago politics works. When the recommendation came to remove Rogers from his post at NSA, it became every man for himself. Rogers, abandoned by his current chain of command, went to the next chain of command available to him.

Am I correct? I am very often incorrect, as I am often told. Except when I usually become correct. Whether I am correct or not here, only time will tell. That ending is not up to me.