PatsAddict wrote:This morning Pete Carroll was on the same radio station that Deion Branch broke the news about Seattle weather. I'm sure many of you know that Pats fans have an interesting perspective on 'ol Pete. His 'rah, 'rah, jacked and pumped style did not play well here. I was always thought Pete would be a great guy to party with. You couldn't ask for a better wingman. He'd sell you to the hottest girl in bar and afterwards she'd feel like she did the greatest thing in the world despite lowering her standards.

And it seems he's still the same guy. He packed in more words during one radio interview than Belichick will speak in one season. He talked alot about having fun. Fun it seems is the ingredient for success. I'll say this, he's in the right spot because of the youth on your roster. That should extend Pete's shelf-life longer than the four years he had in New England. He took over for Parcells the year after the team went to the Super Bowl. They had a lot of veterans on that squad and his personality just didn't gel with those guys. It'll be interesting to see as your team ages, if they start tuning him out.

Most of us here are well aware of Pete's tenure in NE, and it's been pretty well discussed that he did quite a bit of soul searching after that stint and started working on his current ideas and team-building process because of it.

I also think you're underestimating 2 things: Building up trust with the young guys now means they're less likely to tune him out later (because what he said has built up a top 5 defense), and, more importantly, you have no idea how brutal our front office is with players. They look soft and fuzzy and rah-rah, and then they cut players' asses in moments of stone cold brutality.

PatsAddict wrote:Is this true? Deon said it on the local Boston radio station up here and I'm looking for confirmation. It's been raining pretty much every day for the past two weeks in New England and I'm hating it.

So your defense is looking top notch. You guys probably have the biggest CBs in the league. The pass rush seems nasty too, especially at home. I think Aaron Rodgers' counselor was working overtime after that Packers game to help him overcome PTSD (Post Traumatic Sack Disorder).

Things are pretty good here in New England in case your wondering (except for the aforementioned rain). Leaves are turning color, gas is still under $4 a gallon, the Pats are leading the division and the Jets are a wonderful carnival of misfits.

Two warnings: 1. It's kinda long. You could probably finish half your Venti from Starbucks by the time you're done reading it. 2. They seem to have borrowed much of their philosophy from Chip Kelly's Oregon Ducks, so reading it might make some of you Huskies/Cougars fans throw up a little in your mouths.

On the defensive side of the ball, the Pats are better than last year but that's not saying much. They seem to be able to get better pressure on the QB when just rushing four. Secondary is still a concern but no team's perfect. I'm assuming they plan on bottling up Lynch and taking their chances with Wilson beating them.

By the way, I hear that stadium of your is pretty loud. Is it loud like, a wife yelling at her husband to take the garbage out or loud like a wife catching her husband in bed with the cleaning lady?

It's loud like a wife catching her husband in bed with her sister.

It's loud like a wife catching her husband in bed with both of their sisters...and the sisters are both 19.

Right after the husband has just said, "But honey, they're TWINS."

Richard Sherman doesn't just wanna get in your head, he wants to build a vacation home there.

SirTed wrote: You know, I've heard from a number of Pats fans about how poorly Pete's "rah rah" style didn't play up there, and it was only a matter of time before something like that happens here, etc.

I wonder if those years at USC didn't just turn Pete into a better coach. Or maybe his positive attitude just didn't play well on the "win or die" east coast. Because honestly, and maybe I'm alone on this, I can't imagine Pete's style ever wearing on the guys. This is crazy to say, but as much as I liked Holmgren and everything he did for our franchise, Pete is my all-time favorite Seahawks coach.

You like him over Chuck Knox? Poor Chuck. I know he didn't "give good interview" but that cat could coach.

Over Ground "perenially 9-7 and just miss the playoffs over tiebreakers" Chuck? Oh heck yeah!

I've got a soft spot for Patera and his razzle dazzle plays and I always will, but Pete's my favorite coach of all time and I think a lot of fans feel that way about him.

Richard Sherman doesn't just wanna get in your head, he wants to build a vacation home there.

You know what I want to see happen just once, would be on a crucial play in the 4th quarter or something, while the opposing team is in the huddle and the 12s are going nuts, right as they break the huddle, everyone just goes completely and totally silent. All 70k...just....nothing...... it would trip the shit out of the opposing QB, no matter who he was. Then, what would be even better, is if he started calling an audible or something, and on the next play, everyone in the stands as they break the huddle, repeat the audible that the QB said. Word for word. LOL!

I want this to happen so bad... I would be eternally grateful to all 70,000 of you guys if you could pull it off.

chawx wrote:You know what I want to see happen just once, would be on a crucial play in the 4th quarter or something, while the opposing team is in the huddle and the 12s are going nuts, right as they break the huddle, everyone just goes completely and totally silent. All 70k...just....nothing...... it would trip the shit out of the opposing QB, no matter who he was. Then, what would be even better, is if he started calling an audible or something, and on the next play, everyone in the stands as they break the huddle, repeat the audible that the QB said. Word for word. LOL!

I want this to happen so bad... I would be eternally grateful to all 70,000 of you guys if you could pull it off.

Only one way that will happen. They have to run a message on the Jumbotron saying they just ran out of beer. there will be a moment of silence. Then noise.

I think its a trade off. It means more work during the week, mostly more memorization. Memorization is critical with a system like that.

With a traditional west coast system, it seems like once you know it, you know it. It allows for more dynamic play calling with a lot of little variations. However, that is a lot more things that can be heard wrong or otherwise botched on the line.

Id rather do the work during the week than on the line, and I'd gladly sacrifice a little dynamism in exchange for a lesser chance of a communication screw up. Besides, according to that article, you change the plays and the words every week - so you can customize to your opponents and so past footage doesn't give you away.

Say you choose 6 one word plays for a given week. Its not like you are running 6 plays all day. When the clock is stopped you still huddle and can call anything.

I have to be honest, I love what NE is doing. I love the Brady/Belichick tandem. They have my favorite offense in the NFL. However, I happen to enjoy a good defense just as much or more.

My question to you 12's: Do you REALLY think you can all get loud enough that NE's offense wont hear Brady screaming ONE word, say three times, when he only has six possible words and they are all distinct? I don't think that's possible. Maybe if he has to call an audible we can stop that, but it sounds like NE has the perfect counter-attack to our crowd noise. Even in deafening noise, if all I have to do is tell the difference between "ruby" "drywall" and "pivot" i am going to be fine.

EastCoastHawksFan wrote:somebody find that stats of how many times it rained during a game since 2003 . i will put anything on it that its less then 5

You'd lose. What confuses some is the unusual fact that it didn't rain on a game in the first three years (IIRC) of the new stadium. It was quite weird, as the odds of it not raining on any given Sunday afternoon between Labor Day and New Years has to be astronomical. After '04-'05 or so normality returned and we started getting rain several games a year.

As a season ticket holder from 2005-008 or so, I can attest that we got quite a few games where we had rain/weather.

Not sure what the long term forecast is for Sunday yet, but nobody around here trusts any forecast more than 3-5 days out anyway. By Thursday or so, we'll have a better idea of the projected weather.

Incidentally, rain has pretty much zero effect on footing. Sure, the ball gets wet, and we do have some interesting wind affects sometimes, but it's often not that big of a deal.

I think another reason the myth still exists is that rain is hard to notice on television if it's not pooling up, and our field drains so well, you just don't get big pools of standing water when it's raining, so unless you look really closely, you might not notice the rainy days on tv

“You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time”

CaptainSkybeard wrote:My question to you 12's: Do you REALLY think you can all get loud enough that NE's offense wont hear Brady screaming ONE word, say three times, when he only has six possible words and they are all distinct? I don't think that's possible. Maybe if he has to call an audible we can stop that, but it sounds like NE has the perfect counter-attack to our crowd noise. Even in deafening noise, if all I have to do is tell the difference between "ruby" "drywall" and "pivot" i am going to be fine.

People might know what they're having to do on the play; but the noise can play into the snap counts and stuff, ie. false starts. I've noticed the fans usually don't really get going until after the huddle anyways..(sadly)