Odoo V10: +1 Get rid of the Old API, while keeping
code in Python2.7.x

V11+ Python 3.x

..

I don't get why people is getting annoyed by this guy
Andreas the violinist, It's like listening to my 6 year
old son... more he screams, he just wants attention, I
just ignore his Spam, ... scroll fast!! voila!!

Where is an
official statement?
where is your
resource simply make
it not to difficult
to find. It would be
nice if you could
provide the link
thanks.

Fir sure this was
a decision before
the fact that major
OS distributions
like Ubuntu changed
their focus future
oriented to Python 3
with just released
16,04.

Therefore ir
would be advised to
overthing/ rethink
the decision to make
version 12 a python
3 version and
releasing it already
in 2 years from
now!!!

Not even 10 is
out and not sure
when it would be out
and second question
when wil be modules
be migrated to such
a 10 than 11 and
than 12 version.

Review the
existing process and
customers would know
that earliest in
2022 to 2024 they
would have a first
usable Python
version.

I would recommend
them to switch to
Tryton or another
System in that case
even I love Odoo a
lot. This is suicide
and waste of time
and resources for
all customers who
will intend to wait.

Much better would
be like Graeme also
meanwhile mentionned
to make Odoo 10 the
python 3 version as
Odoo S.a. already
stated that most of
their modules are
already ready and I
think the core will
be it too.

In parallel
extend the support
for version 9 at
least until 2020 and
all old API devs and
all 2.7 fans will be
having enough time
to prepare and test
their sites on
Python 3 Odoo 10.

All new sites
will be for sure
Version 9 with new
ApI and all modules
developed from the
point if releasing
the first Odoo 10
Python 3 Version
running and getting
tested on it.

As the last year
has shown that only
a few modules of OCA
seem to be on real
use for customers we
should no more wait
and switch to Python
3 this year with a
first dev release of
the core.

Very sure Indian
and other Asian
companies will start
developping
immediately on
Python 3 without
wasting any more
thoughts on backward
compatibility stuff
to 2.7. Allready
many of them focus
on verticallisation
packages i.e for
schools and
universities. and
ideal place to
recrute new
developers which
would start with
Odoo 10 and in its
Python 3 Version.

We are NOT
looking for an Eric
Caudal statement but
for a clear
statement of Odoo
S.A. which has been
released AFTER the
fact that one or
even the most Server
OS provider
announced their 100%
focus on Python 3.

Please Fabien
make an official
statement to the
timeframe and
roadmap and their
milestones

Probably you
are drawn in so
many
email/thoughts
but that
information has
been provided by
fp a long time
ago: Odoo will
be migrated to
Python 3 the
latest for v12
meaning 2018.
How do we have
to tell you?

Please stop
flooding this
mailing list
with non sense
and questions
that people have
answered you 10
times.

So what is
the timeframe
and the
roadmap with
milestones for
Odoo running
Python version
3.

Why do you
not answer
simple the
question which
has been
pisted in this
thread first
by Mister
Rottermann.
Instead it
looks like
that all those
who complain
about Python 3
Odoo that they
don't want
answe to this
question.

You are
also absolutly
right that
customers are
looking
usually for a
vertical
solution with
some often
quite specific
changes. This
is also our
experience why
we focus in
providing easy
to handle
package
solutions
which lateron
can be also
easily be
maintained and
updated to
future
versions.

Respect
would be at
first place to
answer simple
questions
concerning the
roadmap and
timeframe for
an Odoo
Version
running on
Python 3.

Well expell
if you like
than we need
to discuss
this matter
publicly
instead of the
mailinglist as
at least our
customersand
As you could
read here
already also
others like to
get a clear
answer to this
important
question
before they
will decide if
they invest
again or at
all in Odoo.
No one is
interested in
a product
which gets
just
deprecated
just after you
have got it!

Again
answer the
question to
stop that
people adk for
an answer!

Simply try
it!

By the way
we run als
Servers at
Hetzner and
all of them
run with
Postgres and
Ubuntu 14.04
and Odoo 9
without any
problems. We
have people
who know to
manage a
dedicadedserver
or cloudserver
since 2002 and
have a look
for what
customers we
provided that
service
already often
for many years
until they
were able to
manage many
things by
themselves as
we provide
training to
our customers
too. Help to
do it myself -
Concerning the
German
translation
there is only
a problem if
you are using
the Odoo S.a
Version
perhaps you
should switch
to use the one
from myodoo.com which is
properly
translated and
gets
constantly
updated and
improved ;-)

By the way
an Open Source
community
needs people
like you who
are no
developers but
perhaps can
help to sell a
product like
Odoo and it
needs
developers who
write code
others for
testing and
giving
feedback and
it needs
trainers which
train
developers
and/or
customers. You
will find a
lot of people
in that
community
which won't be
able to write
a single line
of code and
you will find
some who can
write a lot of
code which is
useless for
customers or
not
userfriendly.
For customers
important is
absutly not
the single
line but a
project
manager who
fights for
their
interests and
who has great
connections
and does a pre
evaluation if
the dev is
writing nice
or not so nice
code ;-)

Our typical
customer wants
to have a
product he can
easily learn
how to manage
things by
himselves
and/or with
professional
guidance.

They are
NGOs ( in the
past years we
worked for i.
e. Unesco,
East West
Center and
others
migrating
their sites
and doing lots
of other stuff
for them )

They are
usual business
customers like
one of the
bigest dive
center
providers from
Europe. but
also lots of
smaller
businesses
which are
currently
watching
what's going
on with Odoo
and Python 3
before they
will make
their decision
to use Odoo
with its
websitebuilder
for future
projects
instead to
have several
applications
to do their
necessary
administrative
jobs. Also at
least about
400 churches
are looking
towards the
answer to the
question -
when will be
Odoo running
on Python3 be
available in a
dev version so
their
developers can
migrate and
develop
modules for
it. Some Lions
and other
clubs are also
quite
interested to
get an answer.
In most of
those churches
and Lions
Clubs are
sitting lots
of business
people who
also would
like to get
such a
combined
solution for
their other
businesses.

Please
Fabienne what
is the
timeframe and
when will be a
first Odoo
core Version
on Python 3 be
released and
under what
license will
it be
released?
Thanks -
Looking
forward for
that answer

Right now
we only want
an answer to
the question
Mister
Rottermann has
posted. Thanks
for
understanding!

1. During evolution of mankind a concept became successful, the concept
of "Community". A basic principle of "Community" is to give AND take.
Communities need and try to expell members, which do not respect this
basic principle in order to be successful.
A proper balance of give and take creates respect and respect is
necessary in order gain influence in the community. Respect is also owed
to the contributors to the community.
Open Source is based on and relies on the community principle.
I could not find a single line of code provided to the community from
Andi, I could not find a single translated word from Andi, the time it
needs to write one of his endless posts is sufficient to translate a
complete module. I do not remember having Andi seen in Odoo's help forum
providing support to others.
2. I'm not a developer, but I do understand that migrations such as
Python 3 are necessary, it is a question of priority, timeframe and
efforts needed. I'm very sure that everybody in the community is aware
of that and the discussion started already long time ago before Andi
jumped on the bandwagon. So there is no need to endlessly beat a dead horse.
3. In order to stress his own agenda and priorities, Andi seems to me
pretending an image of Odoo customers, which is more than strange to me,
atleast I have never found such a customer.
According to Andi's posts, the typical Odoo customer:
- urgently needs Hetzner Hosting (and therefore can not use Postgres)
- is dependent on Python 3 in order to avoid bankruptcy of his business
- will depend on any other technical preliminaries, which will come up
at any time.
My typical customer is looking for an attractive, affordable and usable
360° business vertical solution which helps him improve his business
competitiveness. My customer does not ask for Python 3, but he asks for
example if it is possible to change side dishes on the fly in the
restaurant POS, because this is a necessity for his business.
Just my 2cents, but enough said, sorry for this long post....
On 12.05.2016 07:12, robert rottermann wrote:

>> wrote:
>>
>> Generally it is larger integrators and developers with larger
>> customers funding those who don't want to pay for anything. Their
>> migration timelines are naturally slower than the little free
>> bunch who want everything for nothing yesterday. If there are
>> modules you need migrated, either fund it or do it. Complaining
>> is pointless.
>>
>>
>> THANKS!
> I do not like to read the andis longish rants very much.
> But nevertheless i believe the above is a stupid, community unfriendly
> argumentation that goes very much against the gist of open source.
> I am still a freshman so my impression might be due to my ignorance. But
> I fail to find a strong community of developers that together with a
> "benevolent dictator" (aka fabien/odoo sa) analyzes the needs of the
> market and *collectively *create the needed tools.
> It is an ESSENTIAL part of the open source philosophy, that you can
> benefit from its wealth WITHOUT contributing to it.
>
> This said, I believe that the andis of this world are an important part
> of both the OO- and the odoo-community.
>
> robert
>
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