at tomorrow night's debate, wolf. >> we'll have a lot more onwhatjoebidenhasjust said and the very tough reaction coming in from the romney campaign. gloria borger is standing by on that front. both of these campaigns are bringing major surrogates to denver to appear in the so-called spin room after the debate tomorrow night. what are you learning about the romney campaign's people who are coming in? >> reporter: wolf, it's probably no surprise rob portman, mitt romney's chief sparring partner playing barack obama in the debate, he'll be in the spin room. but we've also learned that marco rubio, the rising star, senator from florida who had a prominent role at the republican convention, he will also be in the room. it's interesting to note this comes just as mitt romney's making some new gestures in some outreach, you could say, to the latino community. notable he will be there as well. >> very interesting. thanks very, very much, jim acosta in littleton, colorado. >>> all right. this just coming in to cnn. the results of our brand new poll among latinos all over the united states. certa

. only 30% want the welfare state. >> and republicans are seizing on what vicepresidentjoebidensaidat a campaign event in north carolina. that set off another war of words. >> how they can justify raiding taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last four years. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been "buried." we agree. >> let's bring in the news nation political panel, associate editor and columnist for the "washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene robinson, abby stoddard, columnist for the hill, michael spir mitt romney is con nish, talk show host and chip saltzman, strategist. i would like to start off with you, is it fair to compare the two tape you the president's tape the conservatives were talking about since last night and the video of congressman ryan saying you 30% of people want to live their lives on welfare is it fair to compare these tapes, especially given the president's tape, then-senator obama, was covered by the media then? >> it a beautiful day in denver today, tamron. first of all. >> nice weat

government in our lives. >> we have taken the debates and broken into topicareas.joebidenisout campaigning in iowa. he talked about what he thought the president did last night. >> i thought the president did well. you never know what game that governor romney will come out with. the centerpiece of the economic policies so far has been tax cuts. last night we found out that he does not -- i guess the outdoors that to china -- outsourced that to china. i don't know. i think as time goes on, it will become pretty clear that the governor romney has changed a number of his positions are does not remember his positions. at the end of the day, we have bought two debates coming up for the president, and i feel real good about it. -- we have two the dates coming up for the president, and i feel real good about it. it is easy to say i would have done this or said that, but remember he was in front of many people. all debates are tough. i am looking forward to it. the thing with congressman ryan is that he has been straightforward up until now. there are significant changes he wants to m

they say. nothing could be further from the truth.>>joebidenandpaul ryan will face off in their only debate. you can watch and engage with c- span on our live debate preview starting at 7:00 eastern followed by the debate at 9:00. your reaction, calls, e-mails, and it reads at 10:30. >> in a little more than an hour and a half, a forum on possible tax increases caused by the so- called fiscal cliff after the first of the year. later, the senate debate in the jersey. on washington journal tomorrow morning, we will be joined by ann coulter. we will talk about politics with katrina vanden heuvel, editor of "the nation." washington journal is live everyday at 7:00 eastern. >> americans are not the only people to have a september 11 in their national story. in santiago, chile there was a september 11 even that had a dramatic impact on chilean history and memory. military officers on that day had a full-scale assault on their country. it took over radio stations, police stations, and other centers of power. they stormed the presidential palace, charged through guns blazing. when they were

obamaandjoebidendidis they endangered medicare. they stole money from medicare for amacare, and you see the ads in here and everything they say. nothing could be further from the truth. >> october 11, congressman paul ryan and vice president joe biden will face off in their only debate. abc news' martha raddatz moderates, and you can watch our live debate preview starting at 7:00 p.m. eastern, followed by the debate at 9:00. follow our live coverage on c- span, c-span radio, an online at c-span.org. >> up next, a look at the immediate impact last night's debate had on of voters. charlie cook talked this morning with a republican pollster and democratic pollster. this is about 90 minutes. >> morning, everybody. if i could invite you to take your seats, we are going to go ahead and get started. thank you for joining us live on this rather humid thursday. thank you to everybody joining us on the live stream on nationaljournal.com and those of you viewing and listening on a c-span2 and the voice of america. i'm the senior vice president of national journal, and it is a pleasure to welco

happen to be the words of the distinguished vice president of the united statesmr.joebiden. no,don't boo. he's the best thing we got going, guys. don't boo. because in a moment of clarity, in a brief moment of clarity he just told us what we already knew. >> reporter: romney's aides say they expect the president to call on the gop nominee to offer specifics. >> we're going to limit deductions. >> reporter: but in an interview with the denver tv station, romney began to do just that. >> well, you could do something for instance as an option you could say everybody's going to get up to a $17,000 deduction. and you can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction and you can fill that bucket. if you have a $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number. >> reporter: as for all of that talk about zingers, the romney campaign officials did not exactly say they have a fun one-liners ready to go for tonight. but they did say it won't be difficult to challenge the president's record on the economy. translation, wolf,

bidenandpaul ryan's image. ryan generally, generally has a better image than paul ryan.ifjoebidenisthe answer i don't know what -- want to know what the question is. look, senior citizens, republicans -- the nice thing is we have had decades of dealing with democratic demagoguery on seniors issues whether it be social security or medicare or both. so look we are well aware -- the first stage in a democratic campaign plan is minority turnout plan. the first page and the republicans is, how do we make sure we don't get heard among senior citizens so this is something our campaigns are very aware of. we have messages that we have tested in response. yes it is effective. you test a democratic attack versus a republican response attack and basically it plays to a tie so i don't think it's going to be the game-changer for the house that the democrats you know, think that it is. the one thing to keep an eye on actually more than cedar citizens on this issue are near seniors, those 55 to 64 years old. seniors are getting medicare and getting social security. they know that the rug is no

buried over the past four years, but we need a vibrant middle class. youknow,joebidenwasright, but we have to have a vibrant middle class, and that's what mitt romney has the prescription and knows how to do. >> all right. going to have to leave it there, barbara, thank you for joining us. appreciate it. >>> remember this moment? >> in ohio. 150,000 jobs, and in the great state of michigan, 211,000 good-paying -- >> of course, that's jennifer granholm, former michigan governor rocking the crowd at the democratic national convention. she is rocking it again and is going to talk about how she thinks tonight's debate is going to pan out. we'll talk to her live this hour. also, some republican sources are dredging up video they say is exclusive of president obama speaking to ministers five years ago. praising his pastor at the time. our local political unit found it's neither exclusive nor new. we'll see what all the fuss is about. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] its lightweight construction makes it nimble... ♪ its road gripping performance makes it a cadillac. introducing the all-n

the vice president to show up ready to talk about paul ryan's policies but also barack obamaandjoebiden's policiesover the last four years and where together they want to take this country. now, in terms of paul ryan, you know, he's tried to soften some of his positions and certainly mitt romney's been back and forth about whether or not he supports the ryan budget. >> sure. >> he wrapped his arms around it in the primaries when he was appealing to the base, his republican base. then when he picked paul ryan after calling him the intellectual leader of the republican party, tried to move away from some of those ideas. we know mitt romney campaigned on paul ryan's budget. >> yes, he did. >> paul ryan is paul ryan because of that budget. and, you know, i don't think that there's any chance that's not going to be part of the conversation next week. >> stephanie cutter, thank you for your time tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter and @edshow and on facebook. we want to know what you think.

interest to see how vicepresidentbidenhandlesthe radical paul ryan. >> well, i think you can expect the vice president to show up ready to talk about paul ryan's policies but also barack obama and joe biden's policies over the last four years and where together they want to take this country. now, in terms of paul ryan, you know, he's tried to soften some of his positions and certainly mitt romney's been back and forth about whether or not he supports the ryan budget. >> sure. >> he wrapped his arms around it in the primaries when he was appealing to the base, his republican base. then when he picked paul ryan after calling him the intellectual leader of the republican party, tried to move away from some of those ideas. we know mitt romney campaigned on paul ryan's budget. >> yes, he did. >> paul ryan is paul ryan because of that budget. and, you know, i don't think that there's any chance that's not going to be part of the conversation next week. >> stephanie cutter, thank you for your time tonight on "the ed show." appreciate it. remember to answer ton

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are higherthanjoebidenpaulryan and the republican party in general. it is well known romney's favorability numbers are lower than the president's many believe romney, mega-rich businessman, who once tied the family dog to the roof of his car, doesn't seem able to connect with a lot of ordinary voters out will but less popular than george w. bush, that's cold. for start i, romney and his campaign have done everything in their power to make americans forget about george w. bush in his eight years as president. romney avoids mentioning the form president's name. bush was nowhere to be seen at the republican convention in tampa. that's because for a lot of americans, bush's presidency brings back bad memories of the war in iraq, afghanistan, and the dismal response to the federal government to hurricane katrina, and the conditions that allowed the financial crisis of 2008 to happen, on and on. it is a long list. a few months ago, a cnn poll found bush is the least popular living ex-president. somehow he still gets better favorable ratings than the republican that wants to be our

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