Yes, the very same young people who ousted a President in 18 days, and a PM in 5, now find themselves at the booted feet of their former protectors,
the Egyptian Army.

During a broadcast of "This American Life," the new regime is exposed for its brutality, its treachery, and its new judiciary, made up of military
forces.

According to the story, "Ali" has posted his story and that of many others, on Facebook. It tells the story of how he came to be identified as a
"thug" and targeted under that assumption, which is a powerful label in any culture, but especially meaningful in Egypt. The youths who worked
hand-in-hand with the Army during the revolution were rounded up, beaten (to attain the thuggish look), and then tried in kangaroo courts broadcast on
television. It is strong proof for his story, and apparently, as many as 7000 of his fellows have also been treated in a similar fashion.

Kind of REALLY makes you think there's no hope for humanity or freedom. Oust one corrupt regime and another one fills its place instantly?
Obviously the system is the real problem, not whatever criminals happen to be in power.

If anyone has any ideas as to how to empower the populace to stop this kind of corruption, feel free to chime in. And don't just say "guns"
because we Americans have them and they aren't doing us any good. I'm thinking something more along the lines of outlawing political commentary in
media, putting all government officials and ceos on camera 24/7 viewable by any private citizen, and we can vote any of them out whenever we want.

I truly hope those of us on ATS who desire violent overthrow of the government will take note of this. It is typical for any coup, almost without
exception, and many of us saw it (feared it) coming.

Most of the protesters are just kids, too. They really saw the Army as heroes, but now are probably going to hate and resist them for life. The
police were the brutalizers during the revolution, but now who will stand against corruption?
All part of the plan, imo.

One thing Egypt is trying (some parts of the government) is to change to a Constitutional court, rather than a military-based one.

This seems vital to me, in light of the inside information and former intimacy of the Army and the protesters. The attacks, imprisonment, brutal
torture, propaganda, and mock trials reek of a simmering hatred. How could the Army have hidden it so well before?

And what other things do they want, if not reform? Just power? Really?

These kids would have idolized them, if this persecution didn't shed light on the military's true attitude and goals.

I truly hope those of us on ATS who desire violent overthrow of the government will take note of this. It is typical for any coup, almost without
exception, and many of us saw it (feared it) coming.

No truer words could be spoken on this subject. Those in the U.S. calling for violent overthrow of the U.S. government seem to miss many vital
points, among them that the government, technically speaking is us as in us, not U.S.

Another salient point missed by the "lock and load" set is that we have in the U.S. regime change nearly every two and four years, of some form or
another. We have peaceful regime changes through an election process. This is not to argue that elections are the preferred method of dealing with
usurpation, however. The U.S. is in some mighty trouble, financially and politically speaking. The blame for these troubles belong squarely on the
shoulders of the American people, of whom far too many would like to point the fingers to some figurehead scapegoat.

The U.S. does not need pouty little protestors, they do not need trigger happy revolutionaries, they need a populace - well armed to be sure - both in
weaponry and intellectually. It is the intellectual disarmament of the American people that has been most dangerous, and the only way to fix that
problem is to keep fixing it through an earnest and dedicated effort to re-intellectualize ourselves, every individual on their own at their mightiest
and quickest pace.

Once this re-intellectualization takes hold, it is only a matter of time before the American people, one individual at a time, begin to truly and
profoundly respect the unalienable rights of all others, and respect the rule of law, which are essentially the same thing.

The English went through a similar situation with some hired mercenaries centuries back, and look where it got them....taken over by those same
mercenaries.

Anytime the people deal from a weak hand, and rely on a stronger one, inevitably it finds its own power irresistible. How I wish things would
surprise us once in a while, lol.

But strength would not be able to submit to rule by what it perceives as weakness, i.e., the army knew the people weren't strong enough to resist the
police on their own, because the army is who helped them.

Now it uses its power, thinking, who will stop us? We already proved we are strongest in the nation of Egypt, most organized, and for a moment, most
popular.

We see how that went, and it alone provides the contrast democracies need to see how blessed, fortunate, and peaceful they really are overall.

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