Epidemic? I wonder what percentage of American kindergarten students made it home alive yesterday.

I think mass shootings are an epidemic. There have been 9 in the US, I think since 2007, 4 this year. The next highest number for another country is 2 in fifty years. When these things start happening with such frequency, I think some action needs to happen. I don't know what, but I don't think the answer is to do nothing.

I think mass shootings are an epidemic. There have been 9 in the US, I think since 2007, 4 this year. The next highest number for another country is 2 in fifty years. When these things start happening with such frequency, I think some action needs to happen. I don't know what, but I don't think the answer is to do nothing.

I think mental illness and improper treatment is the epidemic.

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I'm assuming we have a morbidly high rate of gun attacks in this country?

no, per capita where higher than average but only about twice as much as canada and Serbia but about 1/5th the numbers of El Salvador and Jamaica. However the US and Switzerland are topping the list of suicides by firearms. Homicides alone we're still too high, but only about three times higher than Canada and there are still a dozen countries much higher.

Mass shootings in the U.S. in 2012 - a couple of these I hadn't heard of. I guess the body count wasn't high enough to give our beloved media shitbags a great big bloody woody. But here they are, taken from this site: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...ine/?mobile=nc

December 11, 2012. On Tuesday, 22-year-old Jacob Tyler Roberts killed 2 people and himself with a stolen rifle in Clackamas Town Center, Oregon. His motive is unknown.

September 27, 2012. Five were shot to death by 36-year-old Andrew Engeldinger at Accent Signage Systems in Minneapolis, MN. Three others were wounded. Engeldinger went on a rampage after losing his job, ultimately killing himself.

August 5, 2012. Six Sikh temple members were killed when 40-year-old US Army veteran Wade Michael Page opened fire in a gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Four others were injured, and Page killed himself.

July 20, 2012. During the midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, CO, 24-year-old James Holmes killed 12 people and wounded 58. Holmes was arrested outside the theater.

May 29, 2012. Ian Stawicki opened fire on Cafe Racer Espresso in Seattle, WA, killing 5 and himself after a citywide manhunt.

April 2, 2012. A former student, 43-year-old One L. Goh killed 7 people at Oikos University, a Korean Christian college in Oakland, CA. The shooting was the sixth-deadliest school massacre in the US and the deadliest attack on a school since the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre.

Okay, that's 42. Add to this the 27 from yesterday, and you get 69. Eight incidents.

Mass shootings in the U.S. in 2012 - a couple of these I hadn't heard of. I guess the body count wasn't high enough to give our beloved media shitbags a great big bloody woody. But here they are, taken from this site: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...ine/?mobile=nc

December 11, 2012. On Tuesday, 22-year-old Jacob Tyler Roberts killed 2 people and himself with a stolen rifle in Clackamas Town Center, Oregon. His motive is unknown.

September 27, 2012. Five were shot to death by 36-year-old Andrew Engeldinger at Accent Signage Systems in Minneapolis, MN. Three others were wounded. Engeldinger went on a rampage after losing his job, ultimately killing himself.

August 5, 2012. Six Sikh temple members were killed when 40-year-old US Army veteran Wade Michael Page opened fire in a gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Four others were injured, and Page killed himself.

July 20, 2012. During the midnight premiere of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, CO, 24-year-old James Holmes killed 12 people and wounded 58. Holmes was arrested outside the theater.

May 29, 2012. Ian Stawicki opened fire on Cafe Racer Espresso in Seattle, WA, killing 5 and himself after a citywide manhunt.

April 2, 2012. A former student, 43-year-old One L. Goh killed 7 people at Oikos University, a Korean Christian college in Oakland, CA. The shooting was the sixth-deadliest school massacre in the US and the deadliest attack on a school since the 2007 Virginia Tech massacre.

Okay, that's 42. Add to this the 27 from yesterday, and you get 69. Eight incidents.

The same style of fearmongering was used when I was a kid about child abduction. Adam's law made every parent fearful of their kid playing outside because every ice cream truck was truly a windowless van with unnamed puppies waiting inside.

The fact turned out that the vast majority of children abducted, more than 97%, were displaced relatives - not leather wearing monsters in dungeons selling children on the black market.

What direckshun is doing here is no different.

__________________How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words!
Samuel Adams

We aren't staring at a bombing epidemic in this country. We're staring at an epidemic of people using an underregulated weapon to murder people.

I think my Obama loving liberal credentials are well known on this board. I've never owned a gun and never will. But, we are on opposite sides of this issue. Surely you realize the constitution is clear. As the base of how we chose to govern ourselfs as a society is the constitution. It doesn't say anything about regulations of guns.

I'd be okay with banning gun ownership for those certified as mentally ill, have threatened or committed violence against others. Banning personal ownership of automatic weapons, bullets that penetrate bullet proof vests. Do a background check to verify that those reasons listed above are not applicable to the gun applicant.

Thats as far as I'm willing to go to support regulating guns. If someone wants to buy 100's guns, 1000's of rounds of ammo that's their business and the constitution says that right shall not be infringed upon. I will stand with them in support of their rights at the ballot box.