WTF, this country is moving backwards big time. I'm black, why do we still have to ask for the right to vote? Why isn't our right to vote permanent?
Natural, get the eff out of here. Natural for some I see. Please give me my permanent right to vote.

Who says you have to ask for a right to vote now? Everyone, regardless of color, creed, denomination etc has to REGISTER to vote but everyone has a
right with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions. So, unless you are a convicted felon why do YOU have to ask for a right to vote?

All people!!!! you said it buddy. See my post above about the voting rights act. You tell me if blacks are like equal "people" after reading that.
Or maybe it's nothing and I should just deal with it.

It's not logical because blacks don't vote according to a candidates policy or whatever. They only vote for whom ever is running for their desired
party. I edited my post above this, read it please.

voting for their desired party is not exclusive to blacks.... many whites and hispanics do it too..... ..... you are reaching

But the voting process of an entire state wasn't changed because of anybody else. What say you?
Maybe you didn't read the part in caps where I typed MAJORITY meaning the majority of blacks (conveniently in my post above the post you quoted).
My mother only voted based on party, until I educated her. Education is out there for everyone and it is free. Why some people don't take it is
everybody elses problem because they have to suffer or face the consequences of it.

I am white, proud of it and always will be.My partner however, is black. She is the love of my life, we have a daughter together who is mixed race.
She is neither black nor white.

I'm glad it's working out for you. I went down that road a long time ago and have nothing but bad memories to show for it. I have to stay objective
though and realize that I did what I did for selfish reasons, and that my experience isn't typical. It hasn't burned me from black people, but it's
given me a perspective that's, shall we say, unique.

For myself personally, I'll never go down that road again. Bad memories aren't something I can let go of. I can learn from my mistakes, but there's
always going to be a stigma attached that is going to influence my current decisions. It doesn't make me a rascist, It simply makes me a man that
bases his decisions on what he has learned from the past. And if people don't understand that, they need to focus their attention elsewhere and quit
paying attention to me.

I personally find it odd that you base how you approach all black people on past experiences you have had with other black people. Do you do the same
with white people? Because In essence that theory should apply both ways if there's no racism involved.

For example, a black guy was rude to me in front of my missus once, implying that she should be with a black man because she's a good looking black
chick etc.

Later, me and this guy got into a fight. His friends got involved and I came out worse off obviously as it was an unfair skirmish. This has nothing to
do with black people as a whole. This has something to with a few black people that I had the problems with. The fact they're black doesn't make me
approach all black people with caution, because not everyone is the same. It's pretty simple to me.

I've also had a lot of problem with white guys trying to eye my missus up, this doesn't make me approach white people with caution either, because
not every thinks the same, so why would I alienate a whole race of people from negative past experiences with others that are of that race?

I base my decisions on EVERYONE I meet, not just black people. I don't judge people on the color of their skin. I don't judge 'em at all and I
don't dislike ALL black people. It just so happens that some very negative experiences in my past happened when I was with black people. So sue me.
Just like I don't dislike all white people. Just the type of people who display the same charcteristics of those in my past whom I've learned from
personal experience aren't good for me. Basically, negative people with very narrow viewpoints. And traits like that aren't inclusive to different
skin colors. Trust me, I've been around. I've had my fingers in a lot of different pies and people the world over are essentially the same.

The boat I'm in now is going to lead me to someone who is positive, makes me feel good about myself, is professional, is positive and is always going
to be willing to learn. I'm not saying that it's not possible that the person isn't going to be black. Not just very probable because my sails
aren't set in that direction. The part of the country I live in doesn't have very many black people, if any at all, and I see no point in going out
of my way to find one simply to prove to you or anyone else that I'm not a rascist. I have nothing to prove to anyone. Just the type of woman I want
to attract.

"No nation is born multicultured. Multiculturalism is an unnatural as well as unhealthy condition that can only afflict states in national decline. A
multicultural state carries in it's geneses the seeds of eventual national destruction.

All multicultural nations will be found to be in a state of political, moral, economic and social decay. Greed and corruption will characterize the
government coupled with oppressive measures directed against citizens. Lies and deceit will be stock and trade of media, politicians, and educational
institutions. Such are the bellwethers of a multiculturalist advent.

In modern times multiculturalism is instituted from the top down as an elitist ruling class tool used to play one or more racial or ethnic groups
against another. The ensuing cultural melee serves the political designs..........."

I personally find it odd that you base how you approach all black people on past experiences you have had with other black people. Do you do the same
with white people? Because In essence that theory should apply both ways if there's no racism involved.

For example, a black guy was rude to me in front of my missus once, implying that she should be with a black man because she's a good looking black
chick etc.

Later, me and this guy got into a fight. His friends got involved and I came out worse off obviously as it was an unfair skirmish. This has nothing to
do with black people as a whole. This has something to with a few black people that I had the problems with. The fact they're black doesn't make me
approach all black people with caution, because not everyone is the same. It's pretty simple to me.

I've also had a lot of problem with white guys trying to eye my missus up, this doesn't make me approach white people with caution either, because
not every thinks the same, so why would I alienate a whole race of people from negative past experiences with others that are of that race?

As a "black person" I 100% agree with this statement. The same goes with other "races". Alot of the statements that have been posted are nothing
but fear based race hatred. The fact is we are all humans and to say racism is 100% natural is absurd. Racism is a taught negative reaction toward
another race and hegemony is 100% natural. The fact of the matter is that any race of human can mate with the other which transcends any tradition of
any race.

Originally posted by kimish
TPTB want to annhilate the majority of whites (NOTE I SAY MAJORITY) and they can do this from the inside very easily, through immigration!

And why do they do this? It's because TPTB believe brown people are easier to control then whites and asians. Would it be easier to control a lot of
geniuses or a lot of mentally handicapped people? (not a rhetorical question)

google is your friend and their is more than sufficient evidence to support this all over. Take IQ sample from all over the world for example.

I never accused you of being racist, I hate people who do that willy nilly, I was just trying to get down to the reasons as to why you were wary of
some black people. I understand your reasoning in a way, but I don't subscribe to it. As you're someone who lives in a place with no black people at
all and has actually experienced negative events whilst with black people, but aren't actually racist, well, I take some solace in that at least.

ATS racists are so damn annoying. You are all freaking hypocrites. Most of you would never say this crap in public because you know how socially
unacceptable it is so you come on here to rattle cages. You never dare say what you really think we should do about racial issues. You'll never say
"deport all black people" or anything shocking even if you are thinking it. Just show your true colors and get it over with.

Human capital flight, more commonly referred to as "brain drain", is the large-scale emigration of a large group of individuals with technical
skills or knowledge. The reasons usually include two aspects which respectively come from countries and individuals. In terms of countries, the
reasons may be social environment (in source countries: lack of opportunities, political instability, economic depression, health risks, etc.; in host
countries: rich opportunities, political stability and freedom, developed economy, better living conditions, etc.). In terms of individual reasons,
there are family influence (overseas relatives), and personal preference: preference for exploring, ambition for an improved career, etc.

It has been going on for quite some time...so my question(s) would be: when were those IQ measurements taken? Besides that, what source do you have,
but more importantly what argument do you have, that explains the differences and backs up your statement?

That wiki page is awesome...it goes on to say:

The term brain drain was coined by the Royal Society to describe the emigration of "scientists and technologists" to North America from post-war
Europe.[2] Another source indicates that this term was first used in the United Kingdom to describe the influx of Indian scientist and
engineers.

And

Brain drain is common amongst developing nations, such as the former colonies of Africa,[4] the island nations of the Caribbean,[5] and
particularly in centralized economies such as former East Germany and the Soviet Union, where marketable skills were not financially rewarded.

In the UK, when Jamaicans, Africans and Irish began to flock here in the 60's, 70's and 80's, a lot of narrow minded people would post the
disgusting message "No Blacks, No Irish, No Dogs" in their hotel and bed and breakfast windows.

So the Irish community and the assorted black community would gather together in social clubs where they would often outnumber the racists there. The
Irish, obviously a white race, and the black races generally got on well together and joined as a unit a lot of the time, not caring about skin
colour, but only about integrating cultures and rising up in the decrepit face of racism.

This integration was most prominent in music scenes and lifestyle activities, such as in the UK's first racially mixed football hooligan crew "The
Zulu Warriors".

Now if this isn't proof of why racism ISN'T natural, then I don't know what is.

ATS racists are so damn annoying. You are all freaking hypocrites. Most of you would never say this crap in public because you know how socially
unacceptable it is so you come on here to rattle cages. You never dare say what you really think we should do about racial issues. You'll never say
"deport all black people" or anything shocking even if you are thinking it. Just show your true colors and get it over with.

If a white, hispanic or Asian were to say that to a black they would be jumped. Real life experiences tell me this and I have seen it first hand (not
for a deportation comment but for something trivial) and if a black were to say that to a person of another race the other person most likely would
walk away again real life experiences confirm this. It's the nature of the beast and it is ugly. That is why people come onto boards/threads like
this, to voice their opinions and views because there is a greater chance that the person voicing his/her views/opinions will actually be alive the
next day where if it were to happen face to face there would almost inevitably be some form of violence.

I see nothing wrong with preserving culture so long as it is not exclusionary. Your thread included the color of ones skin as a discription of
culture. One can have any skin color in any culture or many different cultures with the same skin color. The evil arises in considering physical
appearance as a cultural trait when oft times their appearance has nothing to do with their culture. when one is denied participation in any open
activity because of physical appearance, that i s racism.

WTF, this country is moving backwards big time. I'm black, why do we still have to ask for the right to vote? Why isn't our right to vote
permanent? Natural, get the eff out of here. Natural for some I see. Please give me my permanent right to vote.

Who says you have to ask for a right to vote now? Everyone, regardless of color, creed, denomination etc has to REGISTER to vote but everyone has a
right with maybe 1 or 2 exceptions. So, unless you are a convicted felon why do YOU have to ask for a right to vote?

All people!!!! you said it buddy. See my post above about the voting rights act. You tell me if blacks are like equal "people" after reading that.
Or maybe it's nothing and I should just deal with it.

It's not logical because blacks don't vote according to a candidates policy or whatever. They only vote for whom ever is running for their desired
party. I edited my post above this, read it please.

voting for their desired party is not exclusive to blacks.... many whites and hispanics do it too..... ..... you are reaching

But the voting process of an entire state wasn't changed because of anybody else. What say you?
Maybe you didn't read the part in caps where I typed MAJORITY meaning the majority of blacks (conveniently in my post above the post you quoted).
My mother only voted based on party, until I educated her. Education is out there for everyone and it is free. Why some people don't take it is
everybody elses problem because they have to suffer or face the consequences of it.

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What the hell are you talking about??? You are in your own world...Address my point please, point is no other race has to ask special permission to
vote. I could give a damn who votes what party. Did you even read what the link?

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