Full video of the woolwich killer interview

There is always a point in a killing depending the person is sane, or not, but the truth is people do die day, after day.
My question do you turn a cheek, when both have already been slapped, or will slapping them back make them realize that it hurts, and when do we
forgive the person who started this slap off.

That is disgraceful. He has just chopped off a young mans head and has blood dripping down his arms and you get all cuddly and reasonable and say '
well he has a point'. No he DOES NOT he is an evil murdering monster - I feel sick at what you have just said.

I thought some people might make knee-jerk reactions, such as yours, to what I posted.

What the man did was wrong and it was grossly violent and disturbing. I already alluded to this in my statement. I shouldn't have to post it again,
but here it is:

I strongly condemn the fact that he had to murder someone to make his point. Violence begets violence. It's just wrong.

People are not born evil and to suggest that those two men are just "evil" and to leave it at that, is to miss the bigger picture.

To be frank, you may as well bury your head in the sand. If you continue to take the line that these men are just evil and they just decide to do
these things for no reason whatsoever - then the cycle of violence will continue.

The security services had warned that continued British involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq would inevitably result in such home-grown attacks. To
acknowledge such a fact isn't disgraceful - to me it's common sense.

You obviously read my first comment and you've twisted what I said in your hysterical outburst. Quite sad that you had to do that instead of trying
to have a rational discourse with me.

You and he are apologists for his actions - just by what you have said. Make no mistake.

Furthermore, I could use your line of reasoning and say you're an apologist for the governments of the UK and USA and how they killed many hundreds
and thousands of innocent men, women and children in Afghanistan and Iraq.

In fact I could say you're complicit in the deaths of all the UK soldiers who have lost their lives in such a futile conflict.

You see, this tragic murder is showing up the myopic and hypocritical views of many in UK society. But it also shows one thing clearly. That the
people in the Middle East, whether it be Afghanistan or Iraq have become dehumanized to us.

It seems to hardly register at all to us when we kill innocents in drone strikes for example. I've already pointed out in another thread the U.S.
policy of double-tap when it comes to drone strikes. Whereby people are blown up by a drone strike and when rescuers arrive to help they too are
deliberately attacked and blown up. Where is the difference in barbarity?

Is a British life somehow superior to an Afghan life? Are we not able to show compassion for all innocents who lose their lives in this never-ending
saga of violence?

you have out right supported this man, the monster. At least you are open and admit it.

Please point out to myself and other members where I have supported the vile actions of those two men?

You guys ARE the problem - your MESSAGE and apologies ARE the problem. Yes your apologies and validation of his ' message' make me sick to my
stomach.

Most people don't find it a problem when they discover that other people might have differing opinions to their own. Other than just repeating what
you have previously said, do you wish to elaborate on what you said above, so we might be able to understand your position better?

It is true this vile act might never have happened if coalition forces weren't occupying Muslim lands.

It does not justify the actions of these two men though, neither does their actions justify the backlash on the Muslim community, it makes me ashamed
to be British.

Helen, just like other members of the BNP/EDL (amongst other people) refuse to see the bigger picture because they can't see past events in this
country, and to be honest, you can't blame them for that, even if you disagree with their flawed logic on the matter, what took place would turn even
the hardest of mens/womens stomachs.

If we want this kind of thing to stop, we do need to stop sticking our noses into other countries affairs, but then who would defend the innocents
being killed for the sake of religion?

Wow, so by this guy's logic : "The gov killed people in the middle easy, so I'm gonna kill this guy." It makes no sense. I get why he did it in
principle, I guess... But, what I don't get is how these guys never thought "This could be bad for the other Muslims in the UK."

Eye for an eye only leaves half the world blind. The worst part is this dumbass' actions could cause a lot of hardships for the Muslims in the UK who
are just trying to make a life for themselves.

The thing that grates with me in all of this is that it's the wrong people who are suffering.

Innocent people in Afghanistan, etc, and innocent people over here when "terrorists" attack.

I was thinking about the people who actually benefit from all of this, who get rich from the oil we steal etc - I can imagine the Rothschilds sat at
home eating their £1500 per tin caviar and £10000 per bottle champagne, and while we're all shocked by this they'll just shrug their shoulders -
"so what, one of the plebs died."

We're all fighting each other while the orchestrators are sat in the lap of luxury getting richer from it all.

If a rich man was a tyrant to the people what good would it do for the slaves to start attacking each other, he wouldn't change his ways.

But if they started attacking him he might.

It's the only way to effect change - go after those responsible rather than those who can change nothing.

Yes this guy has a point I just didnt like the way he got it across. The media are making a big deal of the dead soldier and how upset his family an
friends are. If the same media had of made a big deal out of the Iraq war then perhaps thousands of people across the world wouldnt feel the same way.
Which was an ilegal war. Isnt it about time we convicted the criminels who sent the troops there? Perhaps then people wouldnt need to stoop to this
level to make a point about it.

Originally posted by Kram09
It's interesting that this full video hasn't been shown in the media (correct me if I'm wrong).

The fact is, I agree with what he said - but I strongly condemn the fact that he had to murder someone to make his point. Violence begets
violence. It's just wrong.

That is disgraceful.

He has just chopped off a young mans head and has blood dripping down his arms and you get all cuddly and reasonable and say ' well he has a
point'.

No he DOES NOT he is an evil murdering monster - I feel sick at what you have just said.

I imagine that the citizens of Iraq,Pakistan and Afghanistan who have seen innocent loved ones blown to pieces by a "surgical" drone strike feel
pretty sick too.Having said that,I agree that this was a sickening barbaric act.

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