Looks like a great ibra set. I don't know about ACC.. he is so hard to rate in this regard imo... incsositent. About passing... I like the idea and it's the same I had.. but I'm never really sure on it. As while he is a great technical/vision passer, he does miss place a lot of passes. But the quality of his passer are over and 84. About tech.. I really don't see the need for the drop.. I fully belive hes very close to 97. Just the other day vs bologna he made some crazy control inside the box like it was nothing... I don't think anyone in esle in europe other than messi can make traps like he can.

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LeMisérable wrote:im not mad, why should I be mad just because of you, your nothing, 1 in 7 billion, i mean dude

like i said regarding ibra, this is what i'm testing currently in my OF and i just decided to post it as there was some discussion in Ibra's thread that the current set plays badly. i've used KONAMI's as a benchmark and just slightly tweaked certain stats which i feel were correct and included some of my ideas in it (like BB, passing, ACC, RES, TW) and i've left TECH on the default value as i'm not quite certain of him deserving an 97, but he's up there all right, i've not been overly amazed by his trapping this season (by his standards that is) but he's still a red there for sure, i'm really not sure what to assign to him there thus i've decided to stick with the 94. about passing, you're completely right, you never now what to expect of him, but then, out of nowhere he does one of his magnificent passes splitting the defence, i.e. vs Cro a few months back, the ball for R. Elm was absolutely magnificent, he was surrounded by three Cro players on around 30 meters diagonally right from goal (from his perspective) and he just stood there and just toe poked the ball and put Elm one on one with the keeper and he scored. there's a zillion of examples like that of his passing, he's truly magnificent, but as you said inconsistent...as for ACC, well i really can't find to be over a 78, all he does is those short i can't even call them bursts as he moves about three meters tops before passing after it, it's somewhat implemented in his play style...

Fixer wrote:No wonder there's a 'penetration' stat, all of them players look like rapists

Well I have a few comments, the values that are wrong IMO are TEC DA and WFA, 5? are you sure about it? I think his ST is fine, but his passing is a bit overrated 84 would suffice, but the rest is fine

i wouldn't dare say that values are "wrong" like you implied. it's the Alternatives thread.

i've already explained TECH.

DA, he doesn't display anywhere near orange DA at all, why give him something which he doesn't display?

WFA 5? what's wrong with that? the way he uses his left foot and with which consistency and accuracy, 5 is enough to replicate that, and going on a 6, he'll start to dribble more than often with his left which simply isn't the truth.

passing was already discussed and said that he shows that kind of quality albeit inconsistently, actually inconsistently isn't quite the correct word to describe his passing abilities.

Fixer wrote:No wonder there's a 'penetration' stat, all of them players look like rapists

He misplaces a lot of easy passes, and I watched every Milan game this season, anyway I think 5 for WFA is low, he's scored quite a few left footers at milan (palermo, Lecce) and I think you can't do that with 5 (in pes 2012)

oh you're more than capable of scoring with a 5, especially with the stats Ibra has...i played PES more than half a decade with KONAMI default stats and quite a lot of 3's and 4's coupled with green or even gray values for shooting and never found it quite too hard (of course in normal circumstances, not extreme ones) to score inside the box.

Fixer wrote:No wonder there's a 'penetration' stat, all of them players look like rapists