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I've been trying really hard to reproduce the Cinnamon freeze in my machines but I had no luck, so I feel a little frustrated of not being able to help.But using a little logic I came up a little experiment that might be worth of trying:

Save it, restart your system and log in Cinnamon. Then do the usual stuff that induce a freeze.Any changes?

The logic behind the code:Than environment variable forces Cinnamon to redraw the full stage every time some part of a what is visible changes. That's not the default behaviour. Normally, only the part that changes is redrawn (in Clutter terminologý, that part is "damaged") and the redrawing is done by sending a "signal" to the 3D driver to manage it. And it seems that some proprietary drivers have problems with that scheme of operation. Let's say that some drivers don't know what to do when they find a lot of redraws of some seccion of the desktop and they enter an unstable state. More simply: they get confused and stuck. On the other hand, the signal to redraw the full stage (all that's visible at the desktop) is managed primarily by the kernel, not directly by the driver.

If you notice some change in the freeze bug using that workaround, please report it.

Last edited by esteban1uy on Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I've loaded Maya/Mate with the default MDM on my Thinkpad R61 that exhibited the Cinnamon freezing problem and so far no freezes at all. I'm not too sure then what the problem is for those who also use Maya/Mate who are also experiencing freezes. Everything is pointing towards a separate issue than what is affecting Cinnamon. The next step when I have time is to reinstall Maya/Cinnamon and compile Cinnamon from Git as others have done and see if that solves the problem for me. I seem to have the right laptop for testing this problem out.

"Humph. Choice, it is the quintessential Linux delusion, simultaneously the source of it's greatest strength, and it's greatest weakness." (All apologies to The Architect)

esteban1uy wrote:I've been trying really hard to reproduce the Cinnamon freeze in my machines but I had no luck, so I feel a little frustrated of not being able to help.But using a little logic I came up a little experiment that might be worth of trying:

Save it, restart your system and log in Cinnamon. Then do the usual stuff that induce a freeze.Any changes?

The logic behind the code:Than environment variable forces Cinnamon to redraw the full stage every time some part of a what is visible changes. That's not the default behaviour. Normally, only the part that changes is redrawn (in Clutter terminologý, that part is "damaged") and the redrawing is done by sending a "signal" to the 3D driver to manage it. And it seems that some proprietary drivers have problems with that scheme of operation. On the other hand, the signal to redraw the full stage (all that's visible at the desktop) is managed primarily by the kernel, not directly by the driver.

If you notice some change in the freeze bug using that workaround, please report it.

Good suggestion! As soon as I have Maya/Cinnamon reloaded on my Thinkpad I'll give it a try.

"Humph. Choice, it is the quintessential Linux delusion, simultaneously the source of it's greatest strength, and it's greatest weakness." (All apologies to The Architect)

Penurious Penguin wrote:Not I; but 'tis an unpredictable and inconsistent bug for me.

Though I have suggested the same and use Mate myself, it seems this thread is hellbent on ignoring anything but Cinnamon. I also agree that it is graphics related and predict many of those who've reported success, to return eventually with complaints of the same bug. I can only hope enough un-spiced penguins will stray hither and receive due attention, some day.

beThe thread is not actually hell bent on ignoring anything but Cinnamon, this thread is about freezing problems in Cinnamon only as the title suggests. Meaning that this particular freezing problem some users are experiencing is related to Cinnamon 1.4 in Maya. Testing has just about proven this is a Cinnamon problem. For myself, Maya/Mate runs fine with no freezes on a laptop that experiences freezes using Cinnamon so my suggestion is to start another thread about freezes in Mate and then we can keep a close eye on how both threads are progressing. If we should find a common element then great otherwise we really shouldn't mix up both DEs in one thread since we might end up pursuing two different problems and that can get confusing.

"Humph. Choice, it is the quintessential Linux delusion, simultaneously the source of it's greatest strength, and it's greatest weakness." (All apologies to The Architect)

Point well taken, but I am tired of it all for now and will let someone else open the thread. I shan't post here again.

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having similar issues. Have had quite a bit of the ol' cinnamon session glitching up, mouse works, no other input. Now, I wanted to clean up my disk, so used bleachbit. I didn't tell it to kill my firefox bookmarks, but they're now corrupted/gone, and when I open up Chromium-browser, my entire user session crashes and logs me out!

Not much else to go on as far as I can see with the /var/logs. I wish I had some more suggestions or diagnostical data for everyone, but at least I'll +1 for yet another person having the issue at hand.

esteban1uy wrote:I've been trying really hard to reproduce the Cinnamon freeze in my machines but I had no luck, so I feel a little frustrated of not being able to help.But using a little logic I came up a little experiment that might be worth of trying:

Save it, restart your system and log in Cinnamon. Then do the usual stuff that induce a freeze.Any changes?

....If you notice some change in the freeze bug using that workaround, please report it.

NO changes! still freezing, for now all we can do is suspect. I have the bug as soon as I start firefox (predicatble), and as soon as I open a link from outside firefox (i.e. the firefox browser is in not the current active app). I only have it on this old machine. 8400MG laptop, 2GHz intel centrino duo T7300 with 4G of ram.

OK, my case is even a little different. I'm running Mint 9 on a Gateway laptop and it's more or less rock solid as long as I don't tinker with it. Mint 10 Live, Mint 11 Live and Mint 12 Live works fine from the DVD without any lockups at all. Mint 13 ... both Maya and Cinnamon will occasionally lock the system up so that I have to do a hard reboot. There doesn't seem to be any reason for it. I'm offline when running the Live versions of Mint 13 from the DVD so Firefox doesn't have anything to do with it. It has happened when I run Libre Office, OpenShot and other similar programs. In each case, I lost the work I was doing. I do almost always have music playing in the background, either through VLC or Gnome MPlayer.

Does this ring a bell with anybody?

I want to do a new install of Mint 13 when I replace the HD in the Gateway but there's no way I'm going to do that with this problem running wild. Until it gets solved, I'm stuck.

I'm successfully fix this freeze in Cinnamon for couple of week with another java engine, using Oracle 1.6.0_31/32/33 (Ggl for "Flexion Java Git" and then tottally uninstalling OpenJDK) and found the bug return when trying different Gtk engines/themes are installed (like Equinox) and go away uninstalling them.

Pls if someone can confirm this we can mark the rigth way for developers.

Why is this thread marked [solved] when it isn't? Yes, most things point to Cinnamon 1.4 as the problem but that isn't firm yet and no real fix has been offered via a package download or an update. Compiling Cinnamon from Git solved the problem for some, changing Java solved it for others, replacing MDM with another display manager still solved it for another set of users. Nothing is firm and this thread should not be marked solved.

"Humph. Choice, it is the quintessential Linux delusion, simultaneously the source of it's greatest strength, and it's greatest weakness." (All apologies to The Architect)

kmb42vt wrote:Why is this thread marked [solved] when it isn't? Yes, most things point to Cinnamon 1.4 as the problem but that isn't firm yet and no real fix has been offered via a package download or an update. Compiling Cinnamon from Git solved the problem for some, changing Java solved it for others, replacing MDM with another display manager still solved it for another set of users. Nothing is firm and this thread should not be marked solved.

OP marked the topic solved, so apparently it is solved for OP. As this topic has a lot of history of things tried and investigated, and the solutions provided have worked for some but not for all (clouding the analysis of the remaining issues), I suggest one user still having problems creates a new topic. I'll lock this topic and link to the new topic, where analysis of the issue can continue.

I suggest the first posters on the new topic include a summary of the steps from this topic tried, that failed to resolve the system freezing issue.

Vincent Vermeulen wrote:OP marked the topic solved, so apparently it is solved for OP. As this topic has a lot of history of things tried and investigated, and the solutions provided have worked for some but not for all (clouding the analysis of the remaining issues), I suggest one user still having problems creates a new topic. I'll lock this topic and link to the new topic, where analysis of the issue can continue.

I suggest the first posters on the new topic include a summary of the steps from this topic tried, that failed to resolve the system freezing issue.

Works for me.

"Humph. Choice, it is the quintessential Linux delusion, simultaneously the source of it's greatest strength, and it's greatest weakness." (All apologies to The Architect)

I'm using default Gtk engine, i try for ie Equinox and the freeze back, so uninstalled and using the defaults.

About having 2 java engine, simply remove all about OpenJDK and IcedTea plugin, thats its all (easy from Synaptics). For a long time testing I've to install Linux in a new one work box (I3 3gz 2GB MSI board all in one) and installed Mint, is running non stop since friday 6pm (Argentina) without freeze with Cinnamon.

To trigger the freeze I've used JDownloader, when run this app all systems I've Mint installed get frozen but when I install Oracle Java (always 1.6.0_x versions) the issue go away and JDownloader run fine.

I know the default version of java, but I saw that LibreOffice can be configured to use any of the installed java versions, so I wondered if cinnamon was the same. Deleting the old version would be an option, but I wanted to be able to switch back and forth in case the problem returns.

I have had no crashes since installing Oracle Java, which I know is being used by LibreOffice and I think is being used by cinnamon.