If you take guns out of the hands of people that obtain them legally, have all the proper licensing, etc...that takes guns out of homeowner's hands. Thus, it reduces their ability to protect themselves and their families.

The ones that obtain them illegally for things such as home invasions are still going to get their guns on the black market. If there is a massively reduced threat of facing a gun upon entering someone's home, it makes it that much easier to invade people's homes without fear of them being able to retaliate.

I mean, think about this, k-rod was telling me about a country over in europe (switzerland maybe?) that issues ar15's to all citizens and trains them on how to use it. Tell me you'd want to go over there and break into someone's house if you knew chances are you'd be starting down the barrel of an assault rifle.

I am indifferent on the gun issue in thinking on it. However I do wonder what the hell is the point of having an AR-15(or its variants) for hunting or personal protection purposes.

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There really isn't one unless it gets to the point where the majority of criminals are using ar's. And hunting with an ar is illegal in most states afaik-at least, it definitely is in PA. Otherwise, yeah, i don't see the need either for anything more than a pistol or home defense shotty.

I'm a firm believer that stricter gun laws only serve to keep them out of the hands of people that would legitimately, legally use them, such as for hunting or home defense.

I mean, for the most part, if someone is going to kill someone in cold blood with a gun, they're going to obtain it illegally. Wanna make it tougher on them? They'll just use something else.

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I am indifferent on the gun issue in thinking on it. However I do wonder what the hell is the point of having an AR-15(or its variants) for hunting or personal protection purposes.

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It's not. Its for the event that there is a civil war or revolution that requires we defend ourselves from our government. Im not gonna mince words. Will that happen?...maybe maybe not. Would I rather be prepped for it? Yep.

Big thing to note is that AR's that are privately owned will be grandfathered in. Meaning people can keep them if they already own them

So if we were looking at a civil war i think they'd be trying to seize them

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Watch the video I posted above. AR's are not the problem. There is so little crime committed with them, it can be counted as noise on the national level. The problem is there was a few shootings this past few years that made fantastic news, so everyone is jumping on the gun regulation ban wagon.

Google "number of children killed in bus accidents" you will find many stories about kids being killed in school bus accidents. WE NEED TO GET REGULATIONS ON THESE BUSES NOW!!! STOP THESE HIGH OCCUPANCY BUSES BEFORE THEY KILL MORE KIDS!!!

That's just a very small example. It can go on and on. The FBI estimates there are over 200 million guns in the USA, imposing regulations that restrict future purchases of firearms will make no difference on crime and murders. Think about that number for a while, 200 million and we get a story once or twice a year. If we outlawed everything that has killed a group of people once or twice a year, well you get the idea.

I'm a firm believer that stricter gun laws only serve to keep them out of the hands of people that would legitimately, legally use them, such as for hunting or home defense.

I mean, for the most part, if someone is going to kill someone in cold blood with a gun, they're going to obtain it illegally. Wanna make it tougher on them? They'll just use something else.

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I am indifferent on the gun issue in thinking on it. However I do wonder what the hell is the point of having an AR-15(or its variants) for hunting or personal protection purposes.

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It's not. Its for the event that there is a civil war or revolution that requires we defend ourselves from our government. Im not gonna mince words. Will that happen?...maybe maybe not. Would I rather be prepped for it? Yep.

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Hate to break it to everyone, if our government went to war with its people, it would win without breaking a sweat...We are not living in the 18th Century any more. Also people are too ignorant, lazy and apathetic to actually do anything about their government. They just care when the next iPhone launches or their next big mac...Be afraid of the ill informed and the ignorant more than your government, because it is them that is the cancer that needs to be removed from it for it to do its job correctly.

I am indifferent on the gun issue in thinking on it. However I do wonder what the hell is the point of having an AR-15(or its variants) for hunting or personal protection purposes.

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It's not. Its for the event that there is a civil war or revolution that requires we defend ourselves from our government. Im not gonna mince words. Will that happen?...maybe maybe not. Would I rather be prepped for it? Yep.

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Hate to break it to everyone, if our government went to war with its people, it would win without breaking a sweat...We are not living in the 18th Century any more. Also people are too ignorant, lazy and apathetic to actually do anything about their government. They just care when the next iPhone launches or their next big mac...Be afraid of the ill informed and the ignorant more than your government, because it is them that is the cancer that needs to be removed from it for it to do its job correctly.

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Way to generalize and stealth insult americans. Just because our gov't sucks doesn't mean every single person is happy about it.

I am indifferent on the gun issue in thinking on it. However I do wonder what the hell is the point of having an AR-15(or its variants) for hunting or personal protection purposes.

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There really isn't one unless it gets to the point where the majority of criminals are using ar's. And hunting with an ar is illegal in most states afaik-at least, it definitely is in PA. Otherwise, yeah, i don't see the need either for anything more than a pistol or home defense shotty.

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I would say the opposite Pens, it's legal in most States but not all. I know IL doesn't allow hunting with rifles (one must use a shotgun to kill a deer ) But I've hunted with an AR15 in several states. It is, without a doubt, my favorite gun to shoot.

It's not. Its for the event that there is a civil war or revolution that requires we defend ourselves from our government. Im not gonna mince words. Will that happen?...maybe maybe not. Would I rather be prepped for it? Yep.

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Hate to break it to everyone, if our government went to war with its people, it would win without breaking a sweat...We are not living in the 18th Century any more. Also people are too ignorant, lazy and apathetic to actually do anything about their government. They just care when the next iPhone launches or their next big mac...Be afraid of the ill informed and the ignorant more than your government, because it is them that is the cancer that needs to be removed from it for it to do its job correctly.

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Way to generalize and stealth insult americans. Just because our gov't sucks doesn't mean every single person is happy about it.

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Not referring to America there. referring to the entire world, ignorance knows no borders. Nor do I think that ever single person is happy about it. I don't like words being put in my mouth, especially when I do my best to try and talk big pictures in anything politically driven. Also if I wanted to insult an entire country, I would come out and say it. What I was saying, even if such a revolution started going by the track record of the US abroad, they are pretty good at slaughtering thousands with a single JDAM bomb or Hellfire missiles. In such a case guns will do jack shit to help anyone.

I am indifferent on the gun issue in thinking on it. However I do wonder what the hell is the point of having an AR-15(or its variants) for hunting or personal protection purposes.

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There really isn't one unless it gets to the point where the majority of criminals are using ar's. And hunting with an ar is illegal in most states afaik-at least, it definitely is in PA. Otherwise, yeah, i don't see the need either for anything more than a pistol or home defense shotty.

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I would say the opposite Pens, it's legal in most States but not all. I know IL doesn't allow hunting with rifles (one must use a shotgun to kill a deer ) But I've hunted with an AR15 in several states. It is, without a doubt, my favorite gun to shoot.

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I did not know that. I'm in the wrong state lol. You can use bolt-action rifles to hunt deer with in pa, but nothing semi- or fully-automatic.

Hate to break it to everyone, if our government went to war with its people, it would win without breaking a sweat...We are not living in the 18th Century any more. Also people are too ignorant, lazy and apathetic to actually do anything about their government. They just care when the next iPhone launches or their next big mac...Be afraid of the ill informed and the ignorant more than your government, because it is them that is the cancer that needs to be removed from it for it to do its job correctly.

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Way to generalize and stealth insult americans. Just because our gov't sucks doesn't mean every single person is happy about it.

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Not referring to America there. referring to the entire world, ignorance knows no borders. Nor do I think that ever single person is happy about it. I don't like words being put in my mouth, especially when I do my best to try and talk big pictures in anything politically driven. Also if I wanted to insult an entire country, I would come out and say it. What I was saying, even if such a revolution started going by the track record of the US abroad, they are pretty good at slaughtering thousands with a single JDAM bomb or Hellfire missiles. In such a case guns will do jack shit to help anyone.

There really isn't one unless it gets to the point where the majority of criminals are using ar's. And hunting with an ar is illegal in most states afaik-at least, it definitely is in PA. Otherwise, yeah, i don't see the need either for anything more than a pistol or home defense shotty.

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I would say the opposite Pens, it's legal in most States but not all. I know IL doesn't allow hunting with rifles (one must use a shotgun to kill a deer ) But I've hunted with an AR15 in several states. It is, without a doubt, my favorite gun to shoot.

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I did not know that. I'm in the wrong state lol. You can use bolt-action rifles to hunt deer with in pa, but nothing semi- or fully-automatic.

Way to generalize and stealth insult americans. Just because our gov't sucks doesn't mean every single person is happy about it.

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Not referring to America there. referring to the entire world, ignorance knows no borders. Nor do I think that ever single person is happy about it. I don't like words being put in my mouth, especially when I do my best to try and talk big pictures in anything politically driven. Also if I wanted to insult an entire country, I would come out and say it. What I was saying, even if such a revolution started going by the track record of the US abroad, they are pretty good at slaughtering thousands with a single JDAM bomb or Hellfire missiles. In such a case guns will do jack shit to help anyone.

I would say the opposite Pens, it's legal in most States but not all. I know IL doesn't allow hunting with rifles (one must use a shotgun to kill a deer ) But I've hunted with an AR15 in several states. It is, without a doubt, my favorite gun to shoot.

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I did not know that. I'm in the wrong state lol. You can use bolt-action rifles to hunt deer with in pa, but nothing semi- or fully-automatic.

Not referring to America there. referring to the entire world, ignorance knows no borders. Nor do I think that ever single person is happy about it. I don't like words being put in my mouth, especially when I do my best to try and talk big pictures in anything politically driven. Also if I wanted to insult an entire country, I would come out and say it. What I was saying, even if such a revolution started going by the track record of the US abroad, they are pretty good at slaughtering thousands with a single JDAM bomb or Hellfire missiles. In such a case guns will do jack shit to help anyone.

I am indifferent on the gun issue in thinking on it. However I do wonder what the hell is the point of having an AR-15(or its variants) for hunting or personal protection purposes.

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It's not. Its for the event that there is a civil war or revolution that requires we defend ourselves from our government. Im not gonna mince words. Will that happen?...maybe maybe not. Would I rather be prepped for it? Yep.

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Hate to break it to everyone, if our government went to war with its people, it would win without breaking a sweat...We are not living in the 18th Century any more. Also people are too ignorant, lazy and apathetic to actually do anything about their government. They just care when the next iPhone launches or their next big mac...Be afraid of the ill informed and the ignorant more than your government, because it is them that is the cancer that needs to be removed from it for it to do its job correctly.

It's not. Its for the event that there is a civil war or revolution that requires we defend ourselves from our government. Im not gonna mince words. Will that happen?...maybe maybe not. Would I rather be prepped for it? Yep.

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Hate to break it to everyone, if our government went to war with its people, it would win without breaking a sweat...We are not living in the 18th Century any more. Also people are too ignorant, lazy and apathetic to actually do anything about their government. They just care when the next iPhone launches or their next big mac...Be afraid of the ill informed and the ignorant more than your government, because it is them that is the cancer that needs to be removed from it for it to do its job correctly.

I am indifferent on the gun issue in thinking on it. However I do wonder what the hell is the point of having an AR-15(or its variants) for hunting or personal protection purposes.

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It's not. Its for the event that there is a civil war or revolution that requires we defend ourselves from our government. Im not gonna mince words. Will that happen?...maybe maybe not. Would I rather be prepped for it? Yep.

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Hate to break it to everyone, if our government went to war with its people, it would win without breaking a sweat...We are not living in the 18th Century any more. Also people are too ignorant, lazy and apathetic to actually do anything about their government. They just care when the next iPhone launches or their next big mac...Be afraid of the ill informed and the ignorant more than your government, because it is them that is the cancer that needs to be removed from it for it to do its job correctly.

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if the US government can't even subdue the Taliban, what would make you think it could subdue its own people?

It's not. Its for the event that there is a civil war or revolution that requires we defend ourselves from our government. Im not gonna mince words. Will that happen?...maybe maybe not. Would I rather be prepped for it? Yep.

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Hate to break it to everyone, if our government went to war with its people, it would win without breaking a sweat...We are not living in the 18th Century any more. Also people are too ignorant, lazy and apathetic to actually do anything about their government. They just care when the next iPhone launches or their next big mac...Be afraid of the ill informed and the ignorant more than your government, because it is them that is the cancer that needs to be removed from it for it to do its job correctly.

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if the US government can't even subdue the Taliban, what would make you think it could subdue its own people?

It's not. Its for the event that there is a civil war or revolution that requires we defend ourselves from our government. Im not gonna mince words. Will that happen?...maybe maybe not. Would I rather be prepped for it? Yep.

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Hate to break it to everyone, if our government went to war with its people, it would win without breaking a sweat...We are not living in the 18th Century any more. Also people are too ignorant, lazy and apathetic to actually do anything about their government. They just care when the next iPhone launches or their next big mac...Be afraid of the ill informed and the ignorant more than your government, because it is them that is the cancer that needs to be removed from it for it to do its job correctly.

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if the US government can't even subdue the Taliban, what would make you think it could subdue its own people?

it doesn't matter, the Taliban are a small small organisation compared to the masses of the US populous.. and it's not like there would be no organisation in the US populous to compare to the military knowledge of the Taliban

not to mention the fact that the Taliban does not pay for the US military

it doesn't matter, the Taliban are a small small organisation compared to the masses of the US populous.. and it's not like there would be no organisation in the US populous to compare to the military knowledge of the Taliban

not to mention the fact that the Taliban does not pay for the US military

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Yep easier to kill than a few guys hiding in rag tag groups in the worst terrain imaginable for recon...

it doesn't matter, the Taliban are a small small organisation compared to the masses of the US populous.. and it's not like there would be no organisation in the US populous to compare to the military knowledge of the Taliban

not to mention the fact that the Taliban does not pay for the US military

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Yep easier to kill than a few guys hiding in rag tag groups in the worst terrain imaginable for recon...

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but for every US citizen they kill, they are killing future funds for their own military.. not to mention the soldiers' will to fight against a group of people that would likely include their own family

the US government is not immortal, they are just as vulnerable (if not more) as the Roman empire.. civil war is probably the worst thing imaginable for an empire's stability.

there's also the line in the Art Of War which states the number one principle to winning a conflict is "that which puts the people in complete accordance to their leader so they may follow him undismayed"

it doesn't matter, the Taliban are a small small organisation compared to the masses of the US populous.. and it's not like there would be no organisation in the US populous to compare to the military knowledge of the Taliban

not to mention the fact that the Taliban does not pay for the US military

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Yep easier to kill than a few guys hiding in rag tag groups in the worst terrain imaginable for recon...

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but for every US citizen they kill, they are killing future funds for their own military.. not to mention the soldiers' will to fight against a group of people that would likely include their own family

the US government is not immortal, they are just as vulnerable (if not more) as the Roman empire.. civil war is probably the worst thing imaginable for an empire's stability.

there's also the line in the Art Of War which states the number one principle to winning a conflict is "that which puts the people in complete accordance to their leader so they may follow him undismayed"

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If it got to that stage, money wouldn't be an issue. Violent revolution rarely ends in what people want. Also the Roman Empire is only around in a spiritual sense in the Catholic Corporation. No outcome of this will benefit people as a whole.

What's so bad about the second movie, assuming that's not a major spoiler point? The first one was so good.

And I might have to look into that game, I'd be interested in seeing how it plays. Actual voice actors, or doubles?

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They did a MOTW for the second movie, which I suppose would've been okay except that the "MOTW" sucked, too. I would've rated it a sub-par episode if it was incorporated into the show as part of the series itself. I did enjoy the MS moments, but it's pretty difficult not to.

The actual actors did voice work for the game, which was awesome. There are some extras on the game menu with some behind-the-scenes stuff that's pretty great.

They did a MOTW for the second movie, which I suppose would've been okay except that the "MOTW" sucked, too. I would've rated it a sub-par episode if it was incorporated into the show as part of the series itself. I did enjoy the MS moments, but it's pretty difficult not to.

The actual actors did voice work for the game, which was awesome. There are some extras on the game menu with some behind-the-scenes stuff that's pretty great.

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Gotcha. I'm coming up on the end of the seventh season soon...I'll have to decide if I'm going to continue. I'll check out the second film, regardless, though I've only heard awful things.

I just looked up the game on Amazon. Honestly, it seems kind of cool, especially for a licensed game. You can pick between the characters; Mulder's episodes are more action-oriented, Scully's are more problem-solving. That's pretty neat, I think, especially since the voice work is original.

Anywho, it was super cheap used, so I picked one up with a copy of the Fight the Future blu ray. Time will tell.

If it got to that stage, money wouldn't be an issue. Violent revolution rarely ends in what people want. Also the Roman Empire is only around in a spiritual sense in the Catholic Corporation. No outcome of this will benefit people as a whole.

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that depends on how much power the people actually have in the revolution

the US revolution could have ended in catastrophe, people were actually holding riots against colonist courthouses.. the end result was our constitution

They did a MOTW for the second movie, which I suppose would've been okay except that the "MOTW" sucked, too. I would've rated it a sub-par episode if it was incorporated into the show as part of the series itself. I did enjoy the MS moments, but it's pretty difficult not to.

The actual actors did voice work for the game, which was awesome. There are some extras on the game menu with some behind-the-scenes stuff that's pretty great.

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Gotcha. I'm coming up on the end of the seventh season soon...I'll have to decide if I'm going to continue. I'll check out the second film, regardless, though I've only heard awful things.

I just looked up the game on Amazon. Honestly, it seems kind of cool, especially for a licensed game. You can pick between the characters; Mulder's episodes are more action-oriented, Scully's are more problem-solving. That's pretty neat, I think, especially since the voice work is original.

Anywho, it was super cheap used, so I picked one up with a copy of the Fight the Future blu ray. Time will tell.

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My main gripe with the game was the controls, alongside some POV weirdness and clunkiness. It was like poor Resident Evil controls.