As for the E, for the 20€ I can save it doesn't seem worth the substantial down grade in specs. If it were 99€, that would be a different discussion. But 20€ savings for giving up the 720p display, getting a smaller display, half the cores and no front facing camera? You must really need the mSD slot and like the smaller size to go for that. Reply

As for the pricing situation. I feel like the Moto E is going to end up selling below Motorola's recommended pricing of $129 and the gap in price will end up being a bit larger. If the gap between the G and the E tends toward something like $50-ish dollars there's definitely appeal, especially in emerging markets.Reply

It is wrong because it is not "mSD", it is "microSD". People just understood your "mistake". It is analogous to using "cuz" in instant messaging and I think that's the point prioraodkill is trying to make. Reply

Why is that outside of Apple you have to go big to get high-end internals? Hate that to get a phone in a size I prefer (such as this Moto E) I have to sacrifice features and performance. I'd say 4.3" is about as big as I want to go but could see going for 4.5" if it meant a better phone but nothing bigger.Reply

Honestly people, the Moto G is an excellent phone with only a 4.5 inch display. The only complaint I have about mine is the camera, which is subpar. Everything else is rather pleasant. But, that said, the size of the phone isn't nearly as affected by the size of the display as you think. The Moto X was nearly the same size as an iPhone, and it has a 4.7 inch screen! The iphone has massive bezels.Reply

Yep. If we look at volume, (multiplying out W x H x D and ignoring the curvature, which would only emphasize my point if taken into account), the Moto X is by far the smallest. The Moto X is at least a 10 to 15 percent reduction in volume compared to the other two devices, and volume is what you're gonna feel in your pocket, not screen size. That 4.3 inch screen everyone is pining for is paired with a phone larger in your pocket than the 4.7 inch Moto X.Reply

Because no one wants one that's why. BUT the Sony Experia Z1 Compact is pretty much what those two people that are asking for that kind of phone is. Snapdragon 800 with a 4.3" screen. You're welcome!Reply

Actually, I was torn between a Nexus 5 and a Moto X and the latter's smaller size was a big part of the reason... Ultimately went with the N5 for the newer hardware and Sprint Spark, but it was close.Reply

Actually, it's because no one offers one! You can't buy what isn't for sale.

A lot of people want smaller phones with flagship internals. A lot of people want qwerty sliders with flagship internals. But, nobody offers those, so nobody can buy them, so everyone is forced to settle for either monster phones with skookum internals, or small phones with crap internals.Reply

Ever heard of demand? The phone makers make big screen phones because people WANT them. Screens started small and got bigger and people kept buying. If people wanted small screens, en masse, then the initial big screens would've flopped and the manufacturers would've kept them small. What you say makes ZERO sense.Reply

Anandtech reported that the Moto X' "dual core" beat the quad core flagships at the time in CPU perf. The GPU also did really well thanks to only having to render half as many pixels.Hopefully the updated Moto X will be good as well.Reply

Yes, it's really only the dodgy camera, the slightly questionable battery life, lack of SD card and the uncertain future of support under Lenovo that is holding me back from the X. Otherwise, it has a nice balance of specs, and a sensible form factor.Reply

The 520 isn't big in my opinion. The internals aren't as good as this, but it is much older in terms of Mobile Phone life and the OS doesn't use the resources in the same way as this one. But I know what you mean. Its a shame when Samsung and HTC make "mini" versions of their high end handsets A.) they make the internets subpar to the standard edition and B.) they are the same size as full sized large handsets from a year ago or so (I've never considered a 4.3" ~ 4.5" screen small, unless I've been using a 6" phablet then pick up a 4.5" screened device).Reply

How will Moto E compare to the likes of ZTE Open C ? It has 512 MB more RAM and similar specs otherwise, yet costs whopping 30% more and we don't even know whether the dual SIM version will become available in western markets at all (chances are that - just like Moto G - only single SIM version will be available to most of us).Reply

well, for starters, its a real smartphone with android rather than firefox OS, thats worth the extra alone. but it also comes with a bigger, higher res screen, better battery, more ram, better camera, and you can get it on sites other than ebay. worth the extra 30.Reply

Right, I forgot about the 8GB version that doesn't work on some carriers (even if unlocked), since I'd been looking at the 16GB one (that works on all carriers) for so long. That one's even $200 on Amazon.com (not that Canadians can order from there).Reply

Killing the dumb phone has nothing to do with the cost of phones. Afterall almost anyone can get a smart phone free on contract and low end smart phones of this caliber are easily less than $100 on ebay or craigs list.

The problem is that carriers will not activate smart phones without data plans. So what good is a super cheap smart phone? Reply

From what I can tell (not yet a customer), Republic Wireless carries the Moto G (and presumably will carry the E soon) and has some seriously low cost data plans. $10/month voice only (data from wifi) or $25/month voice & data (throttling after 6G/month data, aggressively uses wifi). Other gottchas:VOIP phone (I expect to see more of this), uses data not voice. Expect some wierdness.Locked phone. Between the voip and the aggressive wifi use, the phone isn't standard. I don't know if rooting it and using CyanogenMod is an option, but I wouldn't count on it.WiFi use. If this is a problem, don't use Republic. The system is built on cheaping out on wireless use, so don't try to get around it. You get certain amount of leeway in the 6G limit, but only so much.

The only other data plan that looks less than predatory is from of all places, Tracphone (I think, might be a walmart specific plan). While there is very little else to recommend about tracphone, they sell data in 2G chunks (which didn't expire the last I looked). The big catch is that while they claim to let you "bring your phone", don't count on being able to find an unlocked *and* *useable* CDMA phone (maybe you can get a moto E CDMA+LTE unlocked and free to use yet, didn't look plausible). Right now they are using phones that just can't compete with the new Moto E&G phones.Reply