Originally posted by detachedindividual
ATS is on a "hate all the Muslims and Blacks" crusade at the moment

Truth is not hate speech. If there are negative things said about people who happen to be black, or negative things about the Muslim faith,
that doesn't equate to 'hate all the Muslims and blacks". Truth is truth.

Or are you just not happy with the fact that some people here decided to wait and see what the police in Florida came up with as far as evidence
against Zimmerman instead of grabbing the torch and pitchfork? Is that what you mean by hating on blacks? Being anti-vigilante somehow means also
being anti-black? Or is it something else?? care to point it out to all of us so-called haters of Muslims and blacks?

Which begs the question .. what to do with this crap if it's in your mailbox? Will Germans have a mass throwing out of the propaganda? Will there
be radicalized muslims looting and 'carrying on' because their so-called holy books are in the trash?

You won't find it in the trash if you use it as a fire stater for your fireplace or use it on your charcoal barbecue to cook steak, ribs, weenies,
hamburger or chicken ;-) But you have a valid point, those without barbecue's and fireplaces might be in for a little retaliation considering the
nature of some of these fanatical nutbars.

I am a Muslim, a part of the majority Sunni group (the largest denomination), who are predominately spiritual, focusing on being humble and following
pursuits of the intellect.

You hit the nail on the head, and it's about time people ATS and wider realised the real problem.

The modern Salafi/Wahabi group is a major thorn in the side of Islam now and contrary to what people think they know, is/was heavily funded by
government and/or other agencies in the west (and Middle East).

These people are literalistic, they take a very hard lined and ignorant view of religion and the world as a whole and are the major cause for many
problems right now.

I support kicking out these people from countries like the UK, like Abu Qatada, I just wish the UK government would grow some balls and deport him but
they are probably worried their dirty secrets will come to light.

Have you ever read the Tulmud/Torah/Tanakh. I confess I havent but I have read enough to know there is some pretty messed up stuff in there. They dont
seem to scare everybody.

Im sure you could take the Bible the wrong way if you wanted to.

"Tulmud=Thamud/Torah/Tanakh"after reading up on these religions I saw nowhere that they have ever spoke of killing people that don't change
to there way of thinking unless it was the Thamudaei, they are a form of Islamist dateing back to 715BC that worshiped Allah.

There is no fear of Islam unless it bothers you that the Quran and most all Muslims that are not afraid to speek the truth of there beliefs want to
force Islam and Shirah law on the world.

I don't know maybe you like to be dominated and treated like sheep if your a woman.

Here is a quote from the Quran, tell me if you hear of any other (current day) religion preaching "Jihad"

"Allah is our objective;the prophet is our leader;the Quran is our law;Jihad is our way;dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope." I don't think
this scares anyone, its just good to know your enamy and how he thinks.

I can't wait to see how these people react when they see there Qurans in the trash by the millions after how they reacted in Afghanistan over those
Qurans being destoryed the wrong.

Do you believe that this small number of Muslims can distribute 25 MILLION free Koran's throughout Germany? Do you know how much it would cost to do
that? Set a minimum cost of production per book of $2 - that's $50 million, bare minimum. With NO return, as they are given out free of charge.

And that doesn't take into account Austria and Switzerland, as mentioned in the article.

The more i see or read about this type of encroachment, the more i think about Hitler wanting to do something similar.... did he not come back as a
Muslim? Its possible and now he is on the crusade again but only this time its not a german white guy, its a muslim from the ME and they are attacking
from inside!!

I could be wrong but wasnt WWII fought to stop this kind of domination, one rule, one belief thing?

Hitler had a close relationship with muslims and was instrumental in supporting one of the people whose actions contributed greatly to today's strife
in the balkans and the middle east.

In fact Hitler played a large role in supporting and collaborating with the very people that inspired or whose organizations today engage in genocidal
terror and the muslim invasion of Europe.

You cannot understand the current problems in the Balkans, Caucasus, and Middle East without learning about Amin al-Husseini.

Here's Husseini reviewing Bosnian Muslim SS troops he personally helped recruit for Hitler. They went on to slaughter nearly the entire Bosnian
Jewish population as well as other non-muslim populations, helping further establish the deadly enmity that exists to this day between muslims and
non-muslims of that region:

Once in Berlin, the Mufti received an enthusiastic reception by the "Islamische Zentralinstitut" and the whole Islamic community of Germany, which
welcomed him as the "Führer of the Arabic world." In an introductory speech, he called the Jews the "most fierce enemies of the Muslims" and an
"ever corruptive element" in the world. Husseini soon became an honored guest of the Nazi leadership and met on several occasions with Hitler.

He personally lobbied the Führer against the plan to let Jews leave Hungary, fearing they would immigrate to Palestine. He also strongly intervened
when Adolf Eichman tried to cut a deal with the British government to exchange German POWs for 5000 Jewish children who also could have fled to
Palestine. The Mufti's protests with the SS were successful, as the children were sent to death camps in Poland instead.

One German officer noted in his journals that the Mufti would liked to have seen the Jews "preferably all killed." On a visit to Auschwitz, he
reportedly admonished the guards running the gas chambers to work more diligently. Throughout the war, he appeared regularly on German radio
broadcasts to the Middle East, preaching his pro-Nazi, anti-Semitic message to the Arab masses back home.

To show gratitude towards his hosts, in 1943 the Mufti travelled several times to Bosnia, where on orders of the SS he recruited the notorious
"Hanjar troopers," a special Bosnian Waffen SS company which slaugh-tered 90% of Bosnia's Jews and burned countless Serbian churches and villages.
These Bosnian Muslim recruits rapidly found favor with SS chief Heinrich Himmler, who established a special Mullah Military school in Dresden.

Don't forget that beyond those three reasons (those are only reasons for shedding the blood of a fellow muslim), there are regular witch burnings in
all the countries you stated, The Koran also says it's perfectly OK to kill anyone refusing to convert to islam, non-muslims are less than animals
and nay be treated as such, slavery is fine, beating women is all the rage, and being gay is an instant death sentence also...

Christianity hasn't burnt a witch in over 400 years...lol

Yup Islam is a religion of peace and love (but only if you are a muslim and even then you can still die for the stupidest things)...lololol

I can't open a drawer in a hotel room without finding a Gideon Bible, so I see nothing defferent about what these people do. In fact, like a
well-known comedian said, I expect you to proselytize if you have faith in a religion.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
How about one of every religious text in every house. How else would you be able to defend yourself against mass delusions and cult like
behavior?

Excellent. Let me take inventory .... We have the Qu'ran ... a Qu'ran commentary ... The Bible (catholic edition) .. another bible (King James
edition) ... a bunch of bible commentaries ... the Gnostic bible (called 'the other bible") ... some Summerian stuff ... Buddhist teachings ... but
nothing Jewish ... Guess I'll have to see about getting some Jewish 'holy books' in the house.

If you have a Bible (Catholic or King James), then you DO have Jewish holy books, dude. The entire first half of the Bible is Jewish (it's the half
with all the violence, sex and filth in it.)

"Tulmud=Thamud/Torah/Tanakh"after reading up on these religions I saw nowhere that they have ever spoke of killing people that don't
change to there way of thinking.

Well, isn't that pesky Flood in the Old Testament part of the Judaic tradition? I could well be wrong, but...

Well didn't that pesky post of mine mention current day religions or did you miss that.............just saying.

One would hope by now that humans would be a little more civil in there religious beleifs and how they force there will on others.

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ALL of the OT is in the Jewish tradition. The Old Testament is Jewish, and the New Testament is Christian. All the filth and crap in the OT is JEWISH,
not Christian. Read the two the Jews' god and Christ's God are two totally separate beings. The Jews worship the god of this world, which is why the
OT is full of nothing but bloodlust and violence.

After all the critics you have given here, im beginning to think that they bullied you out of the 'salafi-crew' instead that you left them... I can
almost smell your frustrations lol

You can not refute any facts I supplied in this thread so you resort to character attacks.

It takes more strength and courage to become an apostate and outspoken critic of Islam... rather than to lead a community of Fundementalists yelling,
"Behead the kafiroon (disbelievers)! Allahu Akbar!"

I face death threats because of my writings and work against radical Islam, and I keep on going.

What do you do for the sake of Peace where you knowingly face harm and death?

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