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In reality, ATS has softened edges, which is a cause of major complaint among many Cadillac (and mostly CTS) drivers. They view such move, which will happen for the 2014 new and bigger CTS, Cadillac's attempt to cater to the Chinese market.

The early results are far from conclusive, but according to Cadillac, they enjoyed some really nice sales increases last month, and 77% of the ATS takers are new to Cadillac brand. So the fans of the sharp-edged Cadillac design may be unhappy about the softened look, but such new look may be welcomed not just by the Chinese

I find it hard to believe though those 77% of ATS buyers new to Cadillac were all C class or A4 or Buick drivers. There just weren't large enough number of ex-Buick drivers out there to make up for such stats

The thing that many drivers of such cars want is that not only is their car recognizable from quarter mile away, but also at night. Face it, you know a BMW behind you from a quick glance in the rear view mirror and the unmistakable headlights Twenty years ago, a Cadillac and Buick nearly looked the same. Today, you can tell a Cadillac from a Buick or Chevrolet for that matter.

That being said, I think the increased sales are from some pretty cheap leases. I see base Caddies for under $300 and a grand down. So what would you choose, base Cadillac or a fully equipped Taurus for the same money? As for me, I like the look of the ATS , but I love the look of the new F30!

The thing that many drivers of such cars want is that not only is their car recognizable from quarter mile away, but also at night. Face it, you know a BMW behind you from a quick glance in the rear view mirror and the unmistakable headlights Twenty years ago, a Cadillac and Buick nearly looked the same. Today, you can tell a Cadillac from a Buick or Chevrolet for that matter.

That being said, I think the increased sales are from some pretty cheap leases. I see base Caddies for under $300 and a grand down. So what would you choose, base Cadillac or a fully equipped Taurus for the same money? As for me, I like the look of the ATS , but I love the look of the new F30!

From discussions by early ATS buyers, none of them ordered the base 2.5L. I can see those who move up from Chevy or Ford go for the base model, but the ones migrate from the European brands are not going to be happy with the 2.5L. I do think the ATS lease deals have the potential to heat up a lease war in this segment.

Saw my first ats on the highway on Saturday night. Black without the lighting package. Did not have any presence on the road and looked like any other American sedan. Only thing i did like was the exhaust. Even a base model f30 has more presence on the road than this ats did.

Saw my first ats on the highway on Saturday night. Black without the lighting package. Did not have any presence on the road and looked like any other American sedan. Only thing i did like was the exhaust. Even a base model f30 has more presence on the road than this ats did.

You are begging for door dings parking that close to the car on your right.

Understand completely.

But my baby didn't want to be close to that Cimmaron I can tell you that. I tried to park a little more leftwards, she wouldn't let me. It's that electronic power steering, the computer has a mind of its own and can do what it wants.

You are begging for door dings parking that close to the car on your right.

Very un-Bimmer driver like, a total lack of precision, more like how an old Cimmaron driver would have parked At least the K-Mart parking lot is a bit upgrade from the Wal-Mart parking lot. BJ will still find single moms with kids in tow, and the moms will look a tad more attractive.

Very un-Bimmer driver like, a total lack of precision, more like how an old Cimmaron driver would have parked At least the K-Mart parking lot is a bit upgrade from the Wal-Mart parking lot. BJ will still find single moms with kids in tow, and the moms will look a tad more attractive.

MY eyes work just fine, since I am able to see that BJ is well within his spot...it's the car to his right that is close to the lines. Also note, it's the perspective that distorts how close he is to the car on the right.

Wow, my reply indicates I have taken all this which is in jest way to seriously.

MY eyes work just fine, since I am able to see that BJ is well within his spot...it's the car to his right that is close to the lines. Also note, it's the perspective that distorts how close he is to the car on the right.

Wow, my reply indicates I have taken all this which is in jest way to seriously.

No, he's too close to the car to the right which is parked on the line. BJ needs to spend more time scoping out suitable safe parking spots or risk having his car impounded by the BMW Stadtpolizei.

Very un-Bimmer driver like, a total lack of precision, more like how an old Cimmaron driver would have parked At least the K-Mart parking lot is a bit upgrade from the Wal-Mart parking lot. BJ will still find single moms with kids in tow, and the moms will look a tad more attractive.

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Originally Posted by Jamesonsviggen

MY eyes work just fine, since I am able to see that BJ is well within his spot...it's the car to his right that is close to the lines. Also note, it's the perspective that distorts how close he is to the car on the right.

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Originally Posted by beden1

No, he's too close to the car to the right which is parked on the line. BJ needs to spend more time scoping out suitable safe parking spots or risk having his car impounded by the BMW Stadtpolizei.

Having just completed Season 1 of "Heroes" with my son I need to help you all better understand the parking situation this morning. I leave you with this clue:

Obviously it did not, since BJ admitted he wasn't able to handle his L328i correctly. It appears he missed the apex before coming out of that turn and into the parking spot. What is very un-Bimmer driver like is that he should have parked right between two spots, with the white lines smack under and along the center of his car, so that even if that car came later, it would have to continue to circle the lot until it found another spot further away from the store.

Yes. I don't know how to break it to my son because he is so enthralled with Season 1 (rightfully so) and Hulu Plus gives us all 4 seasons and I have no intention of suffering through the last 3 even though I never saw the last 2.

I am trying to distance myself from that whole family lol. Oh the stories I can tell.

I know the product, my friend/business partner sells them(His office is at Telebrands, but sells for all the major As Seen on TV companies).

Telebrands has always had successful direct response items and I thought their sales were still going strong?

I was just about to place an order for a Christmas gift for my wife. Do you think she would like the Royal Heirloom Ring™? It looks so much like the ring that Kate Middleton now wears that I can't believe they are able to sell it for only $19.90 plus S&H.