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No, absolutely not. It depends on the individual, anatomy and many factors Geoff. The same amount of coordination and strength from you and me, may not produce the same distortion. Distortion is hard to pin down collectively. It is very much a personal thing in terms of when, where, how and what kinds of distortion anyone can produce. Some people can't do it at all. Others can't get away from it.

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No, absolutely not. It depends on the individual, anatomy and many factors Geoff. The same amount of coordination and strength from you and me, may not produce the same distortion. Distortion is hard to pin down collectively. It is very much a personal thing in terms of when, where, how and what kinds of distortion anyone can produce. Some people can't do it at all. Others can't get away from it.

I agree that everyone produces a different sound/type of distortion. Even if similar to others, theres always some unique spin on it due to the reasons you mentioned. I'm also still in the, admittedly perhaps naive, opinion that anyone can train just about anything, barring a medical issue keeping them from it. The more I've been studying the voices of particular singers, the more I reinforce that belief.

The right vowel, on the right note, with just the right amount of sob, can produce that natural distortion heard around the one-minute mark in the first video. I think that differs a bit from person to person, but I do believe overlay distortion can be trained regardless. Some may sound harsher than others, but the grit, rasp, and fry screams can still be taught. I've had some students who got it in two weeks, and it took others 6 months to a year, but they eventually were able to do it. And I've also had some who, like you said, couldn't get away from it. They had a naturall tendency to add sob and bleed the glottis just right for distortion. They had to spend a LOT of time learning to lift the voice better, even in their everyday speaking voice. Eventually, they were able to sing very clean.

I think the biggest factor I've seen in learning it either way was determination. And I don't mean pushing through it until you get it. Rather, I've had students who saw speech therapists, ENT doctors, relentlessly expirimented with every instruction about distortion they could get their hands on, and didn't give up until they got the sound/effect they wanted and could relax into it.

No, absolutely not. It depends on the individual, anatomy and many factors Geoff. The same amount of coordination and strength from you and me, may not produce the same distortion. Distortion is hard to pin down collectively. It is very much a personal thing in terms of when, where, how and what kinds of distortion anyone can produce. Some people can't do it at all. Others can't get away from it.

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I'm confused, Robert. Why does this guy's technique sound night and day different to yours???

?? Many reasons that are obvious and many that are not. His "techniques" ... what are they? How are they being executed? what is he working on in my program?... this could go on forever... his age? His anatomy for singing? His native language influence? ... I am barely grasping the point of your question... just because someone buys my program and trains with me, it doesn't mean they start sounding like me. Steve is a metal belter, I am more of a clean singer... the techniques don't necessarily give you a sound or style, they just make you strong and build motor skills... the sounds you produce after that could be very different then the person that taught it to you... And let's hope so... everyone should use the techniques to find their OWN voice.

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This lady is super popular on youtube with her singing lessons but ima beggineer so im not really sure if what she is saying works. loved to hear from other people trtying to learn to singjust like i am, http://go.singingedu.info/vocal-range-increase