SwaggWagg wrote:We'll not get a player anywhere near that talented anytime soon. Fans of this team being this absurdly picky is ridicuous considering our history.

That's true, but unless we're contender's , i don't care because our roster isn't talented enough with gay and that's not a knock on him! we're just not in a position to be adding high priced players to a mediocre roster at this point.

Harry Palmer wrote:25% at potential greatness seems awesome, considering you can reset on failure and in contrast with the 0% we have been practicing.

25% at best. It's not like tanking until the ping pong ball bounce in your favor is a viable long term strategy. Just look at SAC; no sign of progress after years of drafting in the top 5.

The reality is this team's floor is probably 5th worst at the moment. Besides, after watching "franchise" players like Dwight Howard, Carmelo Anthony, Lebron James, Kevin Garnett, Deron Williams etc leave their teams, do you honestly think that simply drafting a blue chip prospect is progress? Especially under this FO?

I don't get why we're trying to lowball them with Ed Davis and Calderon. They're just going to go with the Phoenix trade while we get stuck with nothing. If BC could put his ego aside and throw in Bargs we'd have a serious offer for them.

The Flyest wrote:you lament this FO, but at the same time pine for mediocrity by the same FO? Child please. Make up your mind

Eric Gordon didn't stop NOH from getting the 1st pick, and he isn't stopping them from getting a top 5 draft pick this yearNeither did Brandon Royor Chris Bosh

Keep an open mind; TOR can still collect a talent like Gay and compete in the Wiggins/Parker sweepstakes; just need to weed out mediocre players like DD, Calderon, Bargs, etc who may never be as good as Gay (funny as that sounds) and streamline the team.

Utah needs a SG, so Ross would undoubtedly be of interest: cheap, young and good potential. Would we do it though?

The above lineup is pretty good and is definitely a win-now team, apart from Jonas. That's putting a lot of pressure on him, which frankly I don't think he can handle right now. He's not ready to play NBA playoff ball and we'd be disappointed with the results. On the other hand, if we're confident he can produce at a starting center level next year, then we'd have to be confident we could re-sign Milsap, and we'd have to get approval from ownership to not worry about going over the luxury cap down the road.

That's a team with 3 borderline All-star level guys in Lowry, Gay and Milsap in their prime (26-27 years old), plus 2 very young guys with (the dreaded word) potential. It isn't the worst way to go, as rebuilding thru the draft is a total crap shoot and you're never remotely confident of first, getting into a position to draft a potential star and second, picking a guy who ends up being better than Lowry and Gay and Milsap.

C_Money wrote:I don't get why we're trying to lowball them with Ed Davis and Calderon. They're just going to go with the Phoenix trade while we get stuck with nothing. If BC could put his ego aside and throw in Bargs we'd have a serious offer for them.