You used the common dodge of pretending he had said things he never actually said, to distract and cover your ass while you run and hide from any discussion of the facts.

Heh.

You keep bringing up facts Menow.

Show me your so called factual evidence that Nibiru does not exist.I'm not talking about the typical word acrobatics either................facts.

Anyone?

I'll be waiting.........................

~Zeus

Quoting: Zeus2573

Define Nibiru. No one can ever prove that a non-defined object does not exist. Your demand is like me saying: "Prove balflihag does not exist". YOU have to assert that it has defined properties in the observable universe. Otherwise, this is only YOU engaging in 'word acrobatics'.

Zeus2573 was an alter ego that never should have existed in the first place. Therefore, he has been laid to rest, never to return again. Brent has taken his place. ______________________________________God is dead. ~Friedrich Nietzsche - 1882

Show me your so called factual evidence that proves Nibiru does not exist.

Quoting: Zeus2573

If Nibiru existed we would be at the point in the above video where Saturn, the yellow line, is starting to stray away from its normal orbit. The above video shows what Nibiru would do to the solar system as it approached and passed through. The green line at the bottom is Uranus and you can see it "retracing" its orbit early on as it has been altered by Nibiru long before it arrived at perihelion. Due to the way orbital mechanics works, Nibiru would have to be about 10 AUs from the sun right now for a perihelion in december 2012, which as I said is the point at which Saturn starts to be badly thrown out of place. Years pass very rapidly here; saturn's orbit lasts about 30 years and you can see how quickly it moves. Bear in mind, this is if Nibiru is inclined to the ecliptic a full 90 degrees and isn't even the brown dwarf (or accompanied by one) most claim it to be; a brown dwarf would have even more mass and cause even greater disruptions, I low balled it as 20% less massive than a brown dwarf. Even an object 80% less massive than a brown dwarf showed huge effects on the position of Pluto at the distance from perihelion it would be at in its orbit right now.

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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 906644

come on man..have a little class bro.. no need to imply that towards Nancy. Her beliefs in PlanetX are no different then any other belief that someone has in something. Then after you implying it.. you go hide in your hole like a mouse (the smilie you used lol) ...lame bro, real lame.

But seriously .. calling someone mentally ill over something you dont believe in that the person believes in is really wrong but hey..what goes around comes around.

Well they don't fit the four times larger than earth description. Dust and galaxies don't travel around a binary star comets maybe. And don't fit the profile in folklore..

Quoting: Free Store

They don't fit that description because you're wrong about what they found.

Can you find anything of the 9 in particular that may fit a dwarf red star call Nibiru?

Quoting: Free store

No, and since when did Nibiru transform from a brown dwarf to a red one? Do you have any clue how painfully obvious a red dwarf would be if it were anywhere in our solar system, even in the oort cloud?

Lets just say NASA found it and won't tell us.

Quoting: Free store

So you admit your belief in Nibiru AND that NASA found it AND that they lied about it is a gigantic a priori assumption?

Show me your so called factual evidence that proves Nibiru does not exist. I'm not talking about the typical word acrobatics either................facts.

Can you?

Can anyone?

I'll be waiting.........................

~Zeus

Quoting: Zeus2573

You have been told time and again that if anything like that existed, it would be disrupting the orbits of the other planets. That simply hasn't happened as evidenced by the FACT that GOTO telescopes still point unerringly to any object commended using old databases, that eclipses and occultations occur exactly where they should and exactly on time as calculated decades (and sometimes centuries) ago, etc, etc, etc.

So, are you claiming that your imaginary "nibiru" doesn't affect any other planet except earth?

Ok well i just did a quick invesitgating on Nancy.. read some old newsgroup posts and the forums she runs,etc .. i must say she seems rather rude towards some innocent people that dont happen to believe in what she believes in..wow

And some of the things she believe's in are totally hard to believe. Im a pretty level headed guy...while im open minded ..some of these things are just too far out for me to ingest.

Ok well i just did a quick invesitgating on Nancy.. read some old newsgroup posts and the forums she runs,etc .. i must say she seems rather rude towards some innocent people that dont happen to believe in what she believes in..wow

And some of the things she believe's in are totally hard to believe. Im a pretty level headed guy...while im open minded ..some of these things are just too far out for me to ingest.

Zeus2573 was an alter ego that never should have existed in the first place. Therefore, he has been laid to rest, never to return again. Brent has taken his place. ______________________________________God is dead. ~Friedrich Nietzsche - 1882

Lets just say NASA found it and won't tell us. Like everything else that the scientific method can not prove

Why don't you just say ANYTHING, since you don't seem to need evidence to form your beliefs?

And, for the 100th time, you don't prove that things DON'T exist...you prove that they DO. And so far, there is NO evidence, not a shred, that your imaginary "nibiru" does.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 218281

I'm comfortable. I don't know about anyone else but I have stated all my evidence many many many times. My natural record breaking evidence must have gone in one ear and out the other or you don't remember detail very well

Think about it for a change over the six yrs I have been on Nancy's threads 2/3rds of my post are all about natural worldly short comings documented by the media.Yes it's official I don't believe CO2 plant food is causing floods and fire.

Although your video is very compelling and does make a great deal of sense as you do as well, this really doesn't prove anything.

This is mostly all based on "theory" not facts. The key word here is "simulator".

Quoting: Zeus2573

No, it is based on sound mathematical models of gravity as verified by centuries of measurement and observation of the planets' orbits and decades of interplanetary spacecraft navigation.

Now, what is YOUR "theory" based on? Where are YOUR "facts"?

If advanced civilizations existed in the cosmos on other planets(which I believe they do as do many credible scientists)it is very possible that they could have technologies that far exceeds our own?

Yes?

Quoting: Zeus2573

No argument there. Astronomers virtually all believe in the universiality of life in the universe. But what has this to do with the existance, or not, of a rogue planet in our neighborhood for which there is NO evidence?

That being said, in theory, there could be an advanced civilization on another planet(Nibiru) that could have the capability via their superior technology to guide their planet wherever they want it to go?

Quoting: Zeus2573

And YOU condemn us of using a "theory"!? This isn't even a theory since there is NO evidence whatsoever that such a situation exists. It's plain conjecture. How is that more appropo than using a methematical model of gravity using PROVEN equations?

In any case, they still couldn't hide the effects of gravity from their "mobile planet". It's presense would still make itself obvious by its effect on surrounding objects. Or have they also mastered "cloaking" gravity? While you're making wild assumptions and not requiring any evidence, why not throw anything into the pot?

Zeus2573 demands that what others present be factual, yet presents no facts of his own. On the other hand, his own basic premise consists of nothing but an insipid "anything is possible" statement.

How juvenile.

Quoting: Menow 1003573

I never made any demands. Nonsense.

You seem irritated Menow.

Do you need a hug?

~Zeus

Zeus2573 was an alter ego that never should have existed in the first place. Therefore, he has been laid to rest, never to return again. Brent has taken his place. ______________________________________God is dead. ~Friedrich Nietzsche - 1882

Zeus2573 was an alter ego that never should have existed in the first place. Therefore, he has been laid to rest, never to return again. Brent has taken his place. ______________________________________God is dead. ~Friedrich Nietzsche - 1882

Zeus2573 was an alter ego that never should have existed in the first place. Therefore, he has been laid to rest, never to return again. Brent has taken his place. ______________________________________God is dead. ~Friedrich Nietzsche - 1882