cmillard1

bounty42 wrote:HOw do you pull your numbers? I spent 10 minutes last night clicking on each Full Stat link, writing down the number, closing the java pop-up... There's got to be a better way.

If you've got some programming experience (or are willing to invest a few hours in learning a program), there are web-scrapers you could use to pull data from each of the active (and non-active) shirts.

killerorca

Looks like there is no hope for Artistic growth, which is a shame as it looks to be a lovely shirt. Of course I would not know, I ordered it last Friday and woot has barely sent out the shipping information today!

Seems like those hilarious email monkeys are in fact taking over woot's operations.....

specsmachine

killerorca wrote:Looks like there is no hope for Artistic growth, which is a shame as it looks to be a lovely shirt.

The printed version turned out very well, but I'm a little biased. The last place ranking not only keeps the ego in check, it encourages harder work. Also, nobody cares if I buy my own shirts before the inevitable downfall.

bounty42

killerorca wrote:Looks like there is no hope for Artistic growth, which is a shame as it looks to be a lovely shirt. Of course I would not know, I ordered it last Friday and woot has barely sent out the shipping information today!

Seems like those hilarious email monkeys are in fact taking over woot's operations.....

I'm working on a spreadsheet that will caclulate the distance between two ranks as a number of shirt sales. IIRC (it's at home today) The difference between 27th and 20th is less than 50 shirts.

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■(1:40 PM, 7/27/2012) bounty42 quips, "Forget Guest Editor, what we need is a Guest Rejectionator."
■(10:40 AM, 6/21/2012 ) bounty42 inquires, "Is it just me, or do we not typically get this many Editors Choice shirts?"
■(2:02 PM, 6/15/2012) bounty42 runs numbers.
■(10:40 AM, 6/7/2012) bounty42 dispenses wisdom for all those 'too late' naysayers, "A woot shirt is never late, nor is it early, it arrives precisely when it means to."
■(3:20 PM, 5/18/2012) bounty42 states, "The turtle is very cute, and I love the smug look he's got."

blanked

specsmachine wrote:The printed version turned out very well, but I'm a little biased. The last place ranking not only keeps the ego in check, it encourages harder work. Also, nobody cares if I buy my own shirts before the inevitable downfall.

With the change over I am kinda annoyed. All the shirts I thought of buying to test the blank haven't switched. In one way that is good but in others...

rockymike wrote:Who turned off the insanity? The Reckoning has cooled this week, and the derby requires little input for the artist who hasn't had an honorable mention (for now). All is quiet on the shrit.woot front.

wait till the new people go into the derby threads and complain that the shirts dont fit the theme cause there is nothing to make them look twice.

bounty42

bounty42 wrote:I'm working on a spreadsheet that will caclulate the distance between two ranks as a number of shirt sales. IIRC (it's at home today) The difference between 27th and 20th is less than 50 shirts.

OUCH! my bad, it's 254 shirts behind 20th place at the moment.

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■(1:40 PM, 7/27/2012) bounty42 quips, "Forget Guest Editor, what we need is a Guest Rejectionator."
■(10:40 AM, 6/21/2012 ) bounty42 inquires, "Is it just me, or do we not typically get this many Editors Choice shirts?"
■(2:02 PM, 6/15/2012) bounty42 runs numbers.
■(10:40 AM, 6/7/2012) bounty42 dispenses wisdom for all those 'too late' naysayers, "A woot shirt is never late, nor is it early, it arrives precisely when it means to."
■(3:20 PM, 5/18/2012) bounty42 states, "The turtle is very cute, and I love the smug look he's got."

I still gather the nightly numbers manually. On my spreadsheet, I have concatenated links direct to the stats page, so after a cut/paste/preview, I just open 28-34 tabs for and start entering the quantities into the spreadsheet.

For a comfortable DSR of 22 come Monday, 27th place will need another 138 sales.

killerorca

And for those of you who may be interested here is the list of the designs using the new blanks:

Lucky at Last - mens and kids
A lot of this going around - mens
Too many cooks - All
Blending in to Night - mens
All sails ahead - kids

I know that Lucky at last started out on AA blanks, whether the switch on any of these shirts is having an effect on their sales or is even noticeable to the average wooter is a question only time, and woot, can answer.

Narfcake

killerorca wrote:And for those of you who may be interested here is the list of the designs using the new blanks:

Lucky at Last - mens and kids
A lot of this going around - mens
Too many cooks - All
Blending in to Night - mens
All sails ahead - kids

I know that Lucky at last started out on AA blanks, whether the switch on any of these shirts is having an effect on their sales or is even noticeable to the average wooter is a question only time, and woot, can answer.

IMHO, last week's boost in sales was due in part to folks preferring AA over (future runs) Anvil. I predict there will be a drop in sales as fewer designs remain on the AA blanks. For certain, there's at least one less sale on Lucky, as I don't intend to repeat my usual shirt nerdery stunt.

The truly pathetic part is that I'm sure the bean counters already figured out that between the increase in debut day price AND blanks that cost a couple bucks less, they can afford to lose a good portion of the audience and still maintain (or increase) the bottom line numbers. So all of our pleas are probably for naught.

gement

rockymike wrote:The answer is most likely that the operation isn't as print on demand as I envision it, which is why random shirt day exists.

There's a reason the Derby is limited to 6 colors. Since Woot does screen printing with custom-mixed colors (instead of tiny dots of CMYK), they have to load up ink every time they switch the shirt they're printing. I'm not an expert shirt technician, but I wouldn't do that more often than twice a day if I could possibly help it.

Narfcake

rockymike wrote:The answer is most likely that the operation isn't as print on demand as I envision it, which is why random shirt day exists.

They're definitely NOT print-on-demand.

Based on the few hours of "pre-sale" on a shirt's debut day, they'll batch print a certain amount of shirts in whatever size mix they feel will be necessary. As demand arises from the reckoning sales, they'll have additional runs printed as necessary.

ianleino

rockymike wrote:The answer is most likely that the operation isn't as print on demand as I envision it, which is why random shirt day exists.

My guess is that they've figured out some formula such that that overprint by a certain percentage of the first day sales, then do subsequent printings once those printed shirts are sold out. That would save considerable time over printing to order each day and would have the added benefit of keeping the shirts more consistent as they would only have to match inks on each print run, and not daily.

Edit: Once again beaten to the punch by Narfcake. Guess I should learn to type faster

elankat

Narfcake wrote:IMHO, last week's boost in sales was due in part to folks preferring AA over (future runs) Anvil. I predict there will be a drop in sales as fewer designs remain on the AA blanks. For certain, there's at least one less sale on Lucky, as I don't intend to repeat my usual shirt nerdery stunt.

The truly pathetic part is that I'm sure the bean counters already figured out that between the increase in debut day price AND blanks that cost a couple bucks less, they can afford to lose a good portion of the audience and still maintain (or increase) the bottom line numbers. So all of our pleas are probably for naught.

Damnit, I'm moody again ...

I agree. I only bought one shirt last week, but it was on an AA blank and I definitely passed on buying one shirt because it was NOT on an AA blank. There are a couple of shirts I'm thinking of getting this week while their still on the old blanks. I'm still not a fan of AA, but the foreign made Anvil blanks seem like they'll be an even worse fit.

escapecar

The truly pathetic part is that I'm sure the bean counters already figured out that between the increase in debut day price AND blanks that cost a couple bucks less, they can afford to lose a good portion of the audience and still maintain (or increase) the bottom line numbers. So all of our pleas are probably for naught.

Damnit, I'm moody again ...

Of course they did. A publicly traded company providing a non-luxury good almost inevitably results in a "race to the bottom", where the price and quality (cost) of a good are adjusted to maximize total profit. Woot expected to lose some customers over this. If the results of this switch are better than they expected, I would not be at all surprised if they did it again the next time Amazon's beancounters demand more from the Woot bottom line.

WootBot

Here we go, Woot fans, into the final turn and towards the home stretch towards our Monday morning ritual, the Reckoning! We've got four noobs fighting their way into the Top 20, which means four older designs fighting for their lives in the Danger Zone. Who will survive? Who will be shown the door? WHOSE DESIGN WILL REIGN SUPREME? Pick up your favorite design and find out!

polluxoil

I'm genuinely curious as to why Lucky at Last is selling like wildfire. Is it simply the cuteness factor? I mean, I get that wooters love the cute kitties but what is it about this one that's more powerful than, say, the kitten making bread?

ianleino

For those of you who have a better head for figures than I do, how far off pace is my "Code of Arms" design? Does it have any chance of making it out? It's been such a quite week I don't know what to expect.

bounty42

ianleino wrote:For those of you who have a better head for figures than I do, how far off pace is my "Code of Arms" design? Does it have any chance of making it out? It's been such a quite week I don't know what to expect.

Missed this one, or I'd have answered hours ago. Sorry about that.

By my count you're 4 shirts behind "We're more than Famous" and 12 Shirts behind "Force Equasion" but you need to sell 2:1 on "Force Equasion" since it hasn't hit 4 weeks yet.

Numquam minoris aestimo potentia stultis, maxime in magna coetus
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■(1:40 PM, 7/27/2012) bounty42 quips, "Forget Guest Editor, what we need is a Guest Rejectionator."
■(10:40 AM, 6/21/2012 ) bounty42 inquires, "Is it just me, or do we not typically get this many Editors Choice shirts?"
■(2:02 PM, 6/15/2012) bounty42 runs numbers.
■(10:40 AM, 6/7/2012) bounty42 dispenses wisdom for all those 'too late' naysayers, "A woot shirt is never late, nor is it early, it arrives precisely when it means to."
■(3:20 PM, 5/18/2012) bounty42 states, "The turtle is very cute, and I love the smug look he's got."

crazydoglady

specsmachine wrote:The printed version turned out very well, but I'm a little biased. The last place ranking not only keeps the ego in check, it encourages harder work. Also, nobody cares if I buy my own shirts before the inevitable downfall.

I received my Artistic Growth today and it is indeed beautiful in print. I recently moved into a new job classification and can no longer wear t-shirts to work (and should be spending money on "business attire") but I may have to buy a second copy before it goes away.

mukimuki

Narfcake wrote:IMHO, last week's boost in sales was due in part to folks preferring AA over (future runs) Anvil. I predict there will be a drop in sales as fewer designs remain on the AA blanks. For certain, there's at least one less sale on Lucky, as I don't intend to repeat my usual shirt nerdery stunt.

I know MY purchasing dramatically increased last week as I tried to scoop up any remaining AA shirts I wanted before they switched! (I figured boycotting the AA tees wouldn't do anything except deprive me of some cool shirts.)

missmelis

polluxoil wrote:Oi, holidays. You completely forget about them when you aren't in school anymore.

There are many metropolitan areas in the US and abroad where, regardless of whether you are in school or not, it is damn near impossible to forget about St. Patrick's Day. (Take it from someone who's lived nearly her entire life in Boston, with brief stints in NYC and Dublin...) I, personally, love St. Patrick's Day, but I can imagine that the constant reminders could be unpleasant to someone less enthusiastic about the wearin' o' the green and the drinkin' o' the beer.

Admittedly, part of the reason I love St. Patrick's Day so much is that my father's cousin and her husband, who brew their own beer (and have a hops garden in their backyard!), always have a great St. Pat's party. It's a nice alternative to the bars with jacked-up covers and crowds of drunk students which, sadly, have become the main venue for St. Pat's celebrations.

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