Sylvester Stallone was on The Tonight Show last night to promote The Expendables III, and he was as charming and clever as ever, dropping anecdotes about his Star Wars audition and the reasons he and Arnold Schwarzenegger hated each other for so long.

After a quick story about his fruitless audition for the part of Han Solo in front of George Lucas, Sly dug into his complicated relationship with Arnold: “Hate is a good word,” he joked before reiterating the story about Arnold cleverly tricking him into doing Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot. The legendary action stars have come a long way since their 1980s one-upmanship was at a fever pitch — their public relationship is now steeped in respect and has a real “We’re not so different after all” vibe. The two are so intertwined that they actually have the exact same voice in foreign dubs of the Expendables films.

One thing that always turned me off about him was the commericals for the first Expendables. It said shit like “Statham…Li…Lundgren…and Stallone.” Really, you’re gonna go the false modesty route and give yourself the “and” credit in a movie you co-wrote, directed, and are the star of? I’m not petty

Arnold also tricked Sly into marrying Bridgette Nieson. Arnold was fooling around with her behind Maria’s back (they weren’t actually married yet), and when everyone told Arnold to ditch Neeson, he set it up in a way so that people got to talking about the 3 of them, and Sly ran in to “take Neeson away’ from Arnie, not realizing that Arnold was actually handing Sly his leftovers he didn’t want lol.

I only just heard about this Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot trickery a couple days ago on some podcast (the Sklars on JV Club, I think), but I don’t know if I believe it. I wish I could hear Arnold comment on it. I mean, I don’t think it’s impossible that he actually did want that role; he did Kindergarten Cop, Jingle All The Way, Last Action Hero — plenty of films that the action-loving portion of his fanbase probably hated.