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tanveer1979 writes "Indian students duped by Tri-Valley University in California have been fitted with GPS devices by US immigration authorities. Scores of Indian students were caught in a scam where the university violated immigration norms and illegally got the students F1 visa and immigration status. To keep a track on the movements of the students, the authorities have fitted them with GPS devices. This is spiraling into a major diplomatic row between India and the USA, with the former calling the practice inhuman and unwanted."

It should never have come down to a controversy over GPS devices because they should have been deported immediately when it was discovered that their visas were fraudulent. Goodbye, sorry about the scam, enjoy your trip back home, the ticket's on us.

Being duped (and their claims of being completely unwilling and unaware participants in the scam are already dubious at best) doesn't mean you get to remain in the country. Once back in India, they can reapply to a real university and get a real visa, if they wish. They can also be sent a refund of any "tuition" left over after this fake school's accounts were frozen. Beyond that, we don't owe them anything.

Correct. Students wanted an American education, students came to America, got screwed. Now comply with the law. Asking to be treated like kings is just plain stupid especially when it was up to the student to verify how legit their "university" is.

The students say they were unaware of the dodgy nature of the university and they were conned. In a petition to the secretary of homeland security and the director of ICE, the affected students said they registered in the university believing it is a "bonafide and legitimate university that had been registered with the Student and Exchange Visitor Information System (SEVIS) database."

SEVIS is a web-based technology maintained by the US to track and monitor schools and programs, students, exchange visitors and their dependents, while they are legally enrolled in the US education system. Indeed, Tri-Valley University is among the SEVIS Approved Schools listed on the US ICE website. Authorities have since shut down the university.

On a side note, I completely understand your feelings regarding this matter.If I was a Navajo Indian, I too would be pissed off by all these immigrant "Indians" coming to my country. Fuckers don't even wear feathers.

It's infinitely more important to nab the university than the kids. If we em' to testify against the university, well shit give em' 5 year work visas conditional upon that testimony. I'd imagine the GPS devices were used to evidence so that INS didn't need to keep them here for testimony. If so, yes that dumb, let earn some money here in exchange for testimony. Don't treat em' like cattle.

INS most likely nabbed them at the border, maybe even planning it when they were in India. INS should've promised t

I'd imagine INS felt they needed more evidence against the university, overboard or not. All these students should be well paid for their time working as informants against the university, keep their work paychecks, and be refunded their 'tuition'. Send them home happy with a "thank you come again", not a deportation stamp. And then extract massive fines from this for-profit university that more than cover these expenses.

I think the government does owe them something - the school was listed as an approved site by the government, after all:

SEVIS is a web-based technology maintained by the US to track and monitor schools and programs, students, exchange visitors and their dependents, while they are legally enrolled in the US education system. Indeed, Tri-Valley University is among the SEVIS Approved Schools listed on the US ICE website. Authorities have since shut down the university.

So they came here, partly because the Government lists them as an approved school. Not their fault that the school is no longer approved.

But sending them home does seem preferable to the electronic-ball-and-chain. But then, American government is fond of the Guilty Until We Decide You're Guilty method...

"American government is fond of the Guilty Until We Decide You're Guilty method"

How's about a show trial where some pusgut, shitspouting, self-important, prosecutorial, pompous little shit, prances, mugs and pontificates, demonizing these or some other poor bastard who for one reason or another just happened to be the sacrificial "goat" to be made into a corpse/example/prisoner so that careers can be advanced and the semi-literate and only slightly/not interested can be (persuaded/lied to) that killing/impr

It appears they were willing to help INS nail their employers and this fraudulent for-profit 'university', therefore thy should be awarded all the usual benefits of police informers, i.e. no deportation stamp in their passport, payment for their services, keeping the gains of their illegal work, etc. At minimum, INS would've given them immunity from immediate deportation in exchange for their cooperation.

If you send some Indians home happy after helping INS nail exploitive employers, you'll get more confes

If you watch the report (yes, yes, I know) you will find that they do face deportation. The GPS tags are presumably to make sure the authorities can find them when the ticket is arranged, and is probably cheaper and more humane than keeping them incarcerated.
There's scope for a further diplomatic row, though, about whether the US did all it could to prevent the scam. Others have said that the students should have checked that the university was legitimate, but it was listed on the SEVIS database as legiti

I second the doubting of the "I didn't know the university was fake" argument:

Investigations by US authorities found that while students were admitted to residential and on-line courses of the university and on paper lived in California, in reality they worked illegally in various parts of the country as far as Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Texas.

"Starting in April, one of student assistants Anji Reddy, who worked in TVU administrative office, teamed with another student Ram Krista Karra, who also has a consultant company, conducting a large cheating scheme by asking students to make tuition payment into Ram Krista Karra's personal account in exchange for student I-20 and CPT approval. TVU has fired these two individuals," the email said.

So we've got a bunch of people who are supposed to be attending university in California but who are actually working in other states (the visa only allows on-campus employment of less than 20 hours per week) and are paying into someone's personal account. Either these students are the most naive, trusting bunch of people on Earth, or some (or more likely, all) of them were in on the scam.

They should be given plane tickets. It should never have come down to a controversy over GPS devices because they should have been deported immediately when it was discovered that their visas were fraudulent. Goodbye, sorry about the scam, enjoy your trip back home, the ticket's on us.

It's the ones under investigation. It would be a bigger crime to round all the students up and put them on a plane, when some of the visas might be valid. Kind of ties into that whole "innocent before proven guilty" thing we like.

Or, perhaps more likely since they're not citizens and we've thrown that out long ago even -for- citizens, it's just that ICE doesn't have the time, money, or competence to put a dozen students on a plane in less than 2 months when there's no actual crime committed and they can't

Actually, giving them a plane ticket home would be better than treating them all like convicted child molesters. If they don't have mens rea (a guilty mind/criminal intent), they aren't criminals. They're people with incorrect immigration papers. So you say, "Gee, it's too bad your papers are screwed up, but you have to go home until you can get them straightened out. We'll give you a reasonable period to wrap up your affairs first of course. The people of the United States wish you well in all your future

If I understand that correctly, these guys really wanted to study, but got duped by a fake university, run by americans. They should not be hassled in any way (like with GPS devices) just because they fell victim to american(!) criminals. Apologize to them for that, give them correct visas and send them to a real uni, what's the problem?

The real reason isn't just about voting blocs, it's about party donors and cheap labor and both parties are guilty of it. Why do you think no serious attempt has been made to punish firms for deliberately employing illegal immigrants.
Americans want cheap goods made in the USA -> largest cost in goods manufacture is labor + Illegals are cheap = Political inaction

Which party is that? The Republicans gave immigration amnesty in 1986 and tried again under Bush, but that failed because of the Democrats. Members of both parties want to do something about it. But the only one that made a massive move to make the illegals legal voters was the Republicans. Though your insinuations I'd take to indicate you are talking about the "other" party as the one catering to non-voters to make them voters.

Republicans strongly want illegal immigrants in the country because it's go

considering that Obama has deported record numbers of illegal immigrants, and of them 70% were convicted criminals, and his administration's audit tactics have been far more effective and efficient at going after the companies that hire and create demand for illegal immigration, i think your comment is uninformed at best.

the republican party likes big showy raids where mexicans get rounded up like cattle and carted off, because that plays towards their base's racist and nationalistic tendencies. however t

Interesting article [economist.com] over at The Economist analyzing how much cheap Chinese imports have saved Americans money by keeping domestic manufacturing in check. Americans like their goods cheap more than they like wage inflation it seems.

I wouldn't be surprised if the US has actually saved $$$ with China poisoning themselves and selling the US cheap stuff.The real problem/question is what did the US do with the savings?

Lots of people like to demonize China. Yes China definitely does lots of evil stuff, but hey if your neighbour worked long hours in unhealthy environments to sell[1] you cheap stuff (which mostly works), whose fault is it if you spend the resulting savings on "more cheese burgers and toys you don't need" or "expensive wars wi

Applying that business perspective, what would make the most sense is to allow massive immigration, to have lots of laborers, and keep it illegal, to have them work cheap. Which is more or less what happens. But I'm sure the dynamics are a lot more complex than that. Even in Italy, where racism and immigrant deportation is much quicker than the US, immigrants are quite numerous. As I see it, many of these countries provide cheap labor, cheap natural resources, etc, which get shipped to another country with

This is one form of agriculture that has avoided mechanization for a long time because of the illegal labor pool. Start throwing farmers in jail and you'll find them willing to either pay reasonable wages or fork over the cash for the equipment. Besides, the illegal immigrants have moved far beyond farms. They've driving packing plant wages to half of what they used to be, make up a large number of construction workers, and are in many other industries. Given the unemployment rates, one would think the

It has nothing to do with political power/votes. It has to do with (1) the cost of sending them back, (2) the potential for them to add to the economy (even if illegally), and (3) the cost to the economy if they all suddenly disappeared.

If the taxpayer were to pay for the rounding up and deportation of everyone in the country illegally, we'd not only have a MASSIVE bill on our hands but a ton of businesses would fail in the following days.

As much as "DO SOMETHING NOW"-sayers like to scream, they just don't want to understand that the nation is built on the exploitation of people desperate to make a living for their children. Gardeners, janitors, textiles, builders, cooks, cleaners, harvesters, etc. -- the "dirty job" industry would quickly collapse, entire crops would rot until reliable, knowledgeable workers can be found and employed; the stock market would drop with it (thanks to interdependent investment); and we'd still have unemployment because there wouldn't be a system in place to give those open jobs to the willing-to-work unemployed.

You're right. It's not about race, but it's not about crime, either. It's about MONEY. And the biggest obstacle to getting a fix through Congress is the "DO SOMETHING NOW" types shooting down pragmatic approaches such as plans that would allow amnesty for select illegal immigrants... like some of the ones in the farming industry.

"NO!!! I want all-or-nothing!! ALL OR NOTHING! DO SOMETHING NOW!"

Note: Semi-automatic just means anything but a bolt/lever/pump action firearm. This can be a simple pistol.

Source? Because I've seen illegals take jobs as cooks, servers, cashiers, maids and lawn mowers and I know plenty of Americans that would love to have those jobs but can't because illegals took them so instead they're still drawing unemployment. Just because we're all very well paid nerds doesn't mean everyone is.

If you want something less anecdotal and more universal, I would like to refer you to federal minimum wage standards, health and safety standards, and the like. American have set standards for themselves and they've been made into law. Others have set further standards and those have been made i

We should not have let that first boatload of you even set foot on our land.

According to a book (Guns, Germs, Steel?), the only reason the Pilgrims could land at Plymouth in 1620 was because the tribes living there along the coast had been wiped out by disease (smallpox etc) brought in by earlier visitors, mostly fishing boats needing fresh water, who were routinely driven away by the natives as soon as they were found. One of these earlier expeditions had kidnapped "Squanto" and taken him back to England, where he learned English well enough to convince later expeditions (the May

to pretend they weren't here first, and weren't divided into various states(groups of tribes), and counties(tribes) is a little bit deceiving. While nomadic they covered certain regions, and in several cases many small tribes came together in one giant tribe of tribes.

You are also forgetting that you maybe a citizen of the USA, but you are also a citzen of the state your in, and a citizen of the county your in, and a citizen of the city/town/village your in. Given the fact that 40% of the population moves

Wow, so natives never fought each other over territory? And our Republic was not modeled after [wikipedia.org] the Five Nations of the Iroquois Confederacy? And you further claim that there was at least some land in the Americas that was NOT claimed by a sovereign nation?

I thought they taught real history in Canada, not the bullshit revisionism they teach here, but I see that, at least on the subject of Native history, you guys lie through your teeth just like we do. I guess when the alternative is admitting that you are d

Of course I read it, and of course the thesis has been challenged. You go around saying the people we stole the land from also taught us a lot about democracy, you won't be very popular. Still, even if they didn't contribute much, they were a democratic nation. They certainly had concept of land ownership. So, even discounting that point (it is contested) my main point still stands, and I think you know it because you didn't even address it. Native peoples had the concept of land ownership and nations.

THANk YOU! Everyone says "Europeans stole the land from Native Americans, they're illegal immigrants too!". Umm.... you do realize "native american" is just a generic term we called them, they were actually set-up into their own tribes and countries and would often fight over territory and if they had ships capable of crossing the Atlantic I'm sure they would have been in Europe taking land too. Everyone wants to blame the victores for being successful, but where would we be if they hadn't? America woul

'After the Iroquoian-speaking peoples coalesced as distinct tribes, based mostly in present-day central and upstate New York, in the 16th century or earlier they came together in an association known today as the Iroquois League, or the "League of Peace and Power".'

So, a mere 100 years after our ancestors got to the continent, some Indians in one part of one state managed to put together an almost-democratic pseudo government. Nice. Thanks for documenting my claims for me.

And that crime group is probably leaving decapitated bodies in the desert?

Where do you live that police won't investigate crime because of semi-automatic weapons? And why do you think that 'illegals' are the only criminals with them? Every US city has an illegal narcotics run by our very own citizens and different members of those groups are packing much worse than semi-automatic weapons. Applying your logic about why the 'Guatemalan burglars' are so successful would imply that crime in the US could be easily cut down by making all semi-automatic weapons illegal, rounding up those guns and preventing the sale further in the US. Personally I am on-board with your idea(and I bet the Mexican government would be as well since most of the guns that are fueling their drug war come from the US.)

Its not immigrants it's about class.

Why do you think crime groups are started in the first place? Do you believe that someone wakes up one morning and says 'I have a good paying job and will be able to provide for my family, but you know, I really want to stick it to whity today so I think I will boost his 31" TV that he is so proud of!' Yes, that must be it.

More than anything else, the US tries to export it's ideal. The two chickens in every pot, a good paying job for all who want one, freedom from civil unrest, and the promise of a better tomorrow for anyone willing to work for it. And you know what? People, some living under oppression; others close to starvation; still more bound by a caste system they will never escape; many who look around at their current community and see no work; all these people and more fall for it! Lured by the ideals enshrined on the Statue of Liberty they see America as a shining city on the hill, a refuge for those who persecuted and want a better life for their families. They leave their loved ones and risk death or enslavement all for the chance to work below minimum wage, at some shit job you couldn't pay a US citizen to do and they have no recourse to report labor violations or crimes committed against them for fear of being sent back to the miserable life they came from.

I have no doubt that some who come here in search of a better life, get a glimpse of what the US really is and out of despair and desperation turn to crime. The doubt doesn't exist because many of our natural born citizens are forced to a path of crime for the same reasons.

You want to curb immigration? Stop talking about the American Dream; Stop writing about it; Stop making movies and TV shows about it; and please stop teaching our children about it. Instead show the images of the poor standard of living that most Americans live under. Write about the crappy health care that most receive(those that can afford to anyway) and how many of those issues are caused by not being able to afford proper nutrition. Rewrite sitcoms to show families that unemployed/underemployed because our primary/secondary education system does a poor job at training people to work in a modernizing world. Teach our children that if you work a 40+ hour a week job(if you can find it) in most jobs you will never be able to comfortably retire without assistance. Make movies where the hero is a middle class salaried employee who can't get ahead and, rather than examine the system that is holding him down, inexplicably blames the lowest class who is suffering a worse fate than he is.

In addition to scaring people away from immigrating to the US you have the added bonus of bringing attention to real problems for this country and not the pretend ones of illegals decapitating bodies in the desert or terrorist anchor babies.

It is common sense to hassle the victims of US criminals? That's a really distorted view! Common sense tells me that a gov't official should apologize to these poor guys and hand them correct visas, so they can go to a real university.

Isn't it nice how the orwellian newspeak [newspeakdictionary.com] keeps creeping into the debate?

The legal term is illegal alien. As in:

- Alien [reference.com]: (n) a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization ( distinguished from citizen).- Illegal: (adj) forbidden by law or statute.

In other words: illegal alien [reference.com]: a foreigner who has entered or resides in a country unlawfully or without the country's authorization.

Yes, feast on the outrage. The hate will make you strong. The fear will keep you sharp. Knowing about the evil conspiracy to take our words makes you better than the sheeple who don't realize that the crypto-fascist-islamist-terrorist-commie-nazi-liberals want to control what they think.

Actually it is a way to subvert the public's knowledge. Calling them "undocumented" implies that the only deficiency with their presence in this country is the lack of some paperwork. The people in question have entered in violation of the law, no amount of paperwork will alter the fact that they are now criminals.

To answer your follow on question, a local radio talk show host doesn't use the term "illegal alien", he refers to them as "criminal aliens", which I think you should approve of, since the answer

The two are not mutually exclusive either. I own a semi-automatic pistol that is also double action - you do not need to cock the hammer (or rack the slide) to fire the first round - it will cock and release the hammer with a trigger pull. Obviously after the first shot the hammer is cocked back when the slide ejects the spent round, so it is double-action on the first shot, and single action on the rest.

Oh noes! Someone on the Internet disagrees with you! They must be nutters. Probably fascists too, am I right? They might even be... NAZIS! I mean, they modded you down for going on an off topic pro-gun rant, that sure sounds like Nazis to me!

This is why you hang out on Slashdot. You have no head for business.:-)

Dealing with heavily-armed criminals is a high-risk, no profit endeavor. Red-Light cameras and speed traps yield literally hundreds of dollars an hour in pure profit, and you get the added enjoyment of tasering senior citizens from time to time.

As I noted, there is some evidence that these weren't just innocent victims. And, even if they were, that still doesn't make their visas (which were awarded under false pretenses by a fake "university") any more valid. This isn't about them being criminals, it's about them needing legitimate visas to stay here. As I noted, they're still free to apply for real ones once they're back home.

Indeed. Even as someone entering on a visa-waiver from a friendly, closely-allied country (such as Australia or the UK) is asked on their visa waiver (I94) form: "have you ever been refused entry to, or deported from, the United States?". Answering 'yes' is likely to make you ineligible to enter again without going through a whoooole bunch of paperwork.

So you really, really want to avoid incorrectly entering the US. They don't forget and they don't forgive;)

It appears that the problem is a staffing shortage at the Federal Government level. If the DOJ, or Immigration, or who ever needs to track folks, is having a problem tracking folks it wants to track, then why not hire folks to track them? Of course there is the concept that this could be out sourced. It appears that there is this need by Corporations, and the Government to outsource millions of jobs, once held by Americans, to the BRIC [wikipedia.org] job sector. I believe that this creates an irony that you just have

The United States does dumb things some times. American attitude: Let's bring over the best and brightest the world has to offer. We'll pay 40000 or more for their education. We'll not spend this money on an American. Then, we'll kick the best and brightest (and know best educated) people in the world out of the country when they graduate.

This strategy will strangle long term growth in the US. Smart and educated people have smart and educated kids who in turn have smart and educated kids. Do you see where this is going?

At my French university you could go study abroad for one year. The US were amongst the choices, you could even go to Berkeley or something like that. The beauty of this system was that you would pay the same tuition fees whether you went abroad or not, so basically you could go to Berkeley for one year and only pay your cheap French tuition fees* . OTOH, US students who came here paid their regular (indecent) US tuition fees...

* about 500€ per year, or even nothing if you have a scholarship, which i

The Rich? um no. The rich simply play more, and can go to collage whether they earned it or not. If you are poor and get good grades you can goto collage on scholarships and financial aid. If you are anyone and get great grades you can goto collage on scholarships alone. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about.

Bullshit. Expensive American education is accessible to the non-rich, primarily through easy-to-get, hard-to-discharge student loans and sometimes grants and subsidies that can result in the students effectively getting paid to attend school.. Whether the non-rich can afford the loans accessible to them is another question

If it ever seems that higher education was for the rich only, it's probably because those smart enough to go to the four year uni

If the parent went to EP or ENS, well those are actually better than Berkeley. lol

Almost all civilized countries have kept university basically free. Do you a realize French doctor charges only $25 for a consultation? Yeah, that's partially cuz med school costs them nothing. Did I mention every French doctor I've ever seen was better every American doctor I've seen? Did I mention those were mostly walkup appointments in France?

You're missing out a couple of vital steps in your logic here: From someone who's done it, it goes more like this:

University administrators: We've signed up 4000 students for intro courses in physics this semester. We need qualified teachers and lab assistants, but are only willing to pay less than minimum wage, an amount for which we can't find any Americans with the qualifications willing to work.

So: Let's bring over the best and brightest the world has to offer. We'll pay them a pittance and claim that '

Uhhh, the United States doesn't pay a penny for education of foreign nationals, private donors do. For undergraduate education, scholarship funds come exclusively from private universities and philanthropists. For graduate education, costs are paid for from departmental funds/the student's advisor's funds. The latter two may partially come from government grants, but you can't interpret this as the US government paying for the students' education, since graduate students are considered to pay for themselves

Speaking as someone who came here to study, and am going back -- sorry, but we pay for our education. Paying three and a half times the in-state rate, I even subsidised a few in-state students. The rules are that no federal or state money can go to foreign students, so if you want to get into a federally funded programme, tough titty. You can get private money, but all but a handful of scholarships and loans are limited to citizens and green card holders. At most you can work for the university you attend,

I thought they used cellphone tracking for these things. Oh well, maybe immigration didn't have access to that data, so they created their own data source. Either way I think this is the future of data. What data is acessible and possible is sought, not what data is legal.

All fees collected by this 'university' should be refunded to the students, along with a nice payment for working as an undercover informant. If the students can gain admission to a legitimate university and can afford it, they should be granted new student visa. Otherwise, they should be given a 90 day visa to wrap up their affairs in the U.S., under the understanding that this might involve continued work, and given a plane ticket home to india. They should not be considered deported if they leave within three months. Send them home happy for helping out INS.

And all these expenses should be recouped tenfold form this for-profit 'university' that obtained their visa.

Sorry, but this will never happen in America. It's too reasonable. It simultaneously punishes a for-profit company (legality of its actions be damned) and doesn't adequately dehumanize the foreigners, who are THE ENEMY for having set foot on American soil (their intentions be damned).

I'm an Indian and am aware about the craze among Indians engineers to go abroad (or get an MBA). Infact I am writing this from Germany. While a lot of Indians have contributed to foreign lands, this doesn't mean all Indians are intelligent or will contribute to economy of whereever they go.The students in this case want India (and the world) to believe that they are harmless victims of the situation, but I am sure they were aware of the scam and hence should have reported this matter earlier. If you don't r

Brother, you were doing so well, but you just had to push the globalism button in the last paragraph. Therefore: you get picked because "you're" cheap enough to make up for a generally mediocre level of post-secondary education, are often times proficient in your colonial overlord's language, and if residing in a host country, easy to exploit and send home.

I'm an Indian [...] if an Indian abroad takes a job from somebody else he does so based on his talents and this is why the company picks him/her over a native. Sorry, today the world works on these terms.... So don't crib about Indians taking your jobs all the time.....there is a reason we get picked over natives.

Um, no. The reason that an Indian gets a job over an American is that the Indian is not a citizen, is here on a work visa, and must leave the country if he does not have a job. His employer usually promises to help him gain a green card through a process that takes years. If the Indian were to lose his job, this process could be screwed up or even reset and he would have to start all over again. All these things make him a compliant employee who is motivated to work hard, take less pay, and is less likely t

"After all, if an Indian abroad takes a job from somebody else he does so based on his talents" Let me fix that for you: "After all, if an Indian abroad takes a job from somebody else he does so based on his talents and, most importantly, the fact he/she will be a virtual slave on an H1B visa and put up with wages and conditions no American that could do the job would tolerate"

I'm curious about your statement, because as an Indian who *is* on an H1B (and with several friends who are on H1Bs), I'm not aware of these "wages and conditions" that you speak of.

Quite honestly, most of my friends and colleagues who are on H1Bs -- Indians, Ukranians, Russians, Spanish, Chinese, or even Canadians -- make well into the six figures, and they've under no duress to work in poor conditions.

I realize that this is anecdotal, but in my experience, I'm yet to come across someone accepting the poor

My experience with H1B workers is not the same. Many are shuttled from job to job, receiving diminishing salaries, some even have had their visa papers held by employers. This puts them at great peril, as they were told they need their papers with them at all times. This is true of not just Indian nationals, but the Asian workers as well.

And their salaries are not six-figures. They are paid even less than I am, and I took a 15% pay cut in 2009.

Then when they graduate they find out that they're competing against folks who will accept take home pay that they could exceed being a school teacher! (One of the most underpaid jobs in America BTW.) If you're a lucky enough American to land a good job in the field out of college, you'll see the other side-effect of these folks... depressed wages.

1) This is what's classically known as free market capitalism. Something you* Americans are famous for trying to spread; if you want a protectionist economy, you really shouldn't demonise it's alternatives. Personally, I'm rather fond of this aspect of capitalism; if I want to do the same job as you and am just as capable, it's your tough luck if I'm willing to do it for a lower wage. However, good luck in trying to spread social democracy amongst the American people, I don't think you'll get far in a count

Even Martha Stewart was wearing one for a few months, the idea here is that the students can still move around freely and be tracked while deportation proceedings are pending, its like prison without walls. It is easy to catch and deport legal immigrants who are no longer welcome. What is funny to me is I have not read similar reports of tagging illegal immigrants with GPS devices even if they were caught, is this coz this might piss off certain chunk of the vote bank?

Why is it even possible in this day to make it through a border crossing with a fraudulent visa? It would be cheap insurance to develop visa documentation with a matrix code that can be verified in a central database to weed out the frauds when they first land in the US. It's amazing that the US can track its own citizens better than the aliens it brings in from outside.

There is no attempt in the US to track visa violations. If you have something that looks real when you come in, you are in. If you have a real visa and overstay, again there is no enforcement whatsoever.

Now if you stand up in a crowded room and scream how you are here illegally you might get some people's attention. They would usher you out and keep you from coming back into that room. If you get stopped by the police... well, they are prevented from doing anything that might lead to some kind of immig

You just have to go an immigration forum dominated by Indians like murthyforum.com and search for TVU. You will find posts as far back as last year where people were discussing TVU as a university which would issue you a CPT (curricular practical training) from day one had no classes and you could start working right away with other people warning this was a fraud. The discussions were long and many people wanted to work from day one. Often it was people who were laid off from their jobs, could not find som