Re: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices

From: "Andrew Kerber" <andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx>

To: piontekdd@xxxxxxxxx

Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:03:36 -0500

We are discussing it also. The note seems to say that the OCR and Votedisk
are both going to be supported within ASM. I will really be interested to
see if that is actually the case.
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Bradd Piontek <piontekdd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> is it a long way out? I was having the discussion with a team mate this
> morning after I read the article on metalink. If it is such a small thing,
> why announce it so far out? Is Oracle prepping customers well in advance of
> the desupport (couldn't find any other 12g references on a quick metalink
> search) to give them time to prepare for this?
>
> Is 11gR2 going to be announced at OOW this year?
>
> Bradd Piontek
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>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:24 PM, jason arneil <jason.arneil@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> Oh, I don't know about pushing OCFS/OCFS2, I think ASM is where the big
>> push from oracle is.
>>
>> You are right, about this chicken and egg syndrome, but 12g is a LONG way
>> out.
>>
>> We are still waiting 11gR2, right?
>>
>> jason.
>>
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>>
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 8:01 PM, Bradd Piontek <piontekdd@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> I would think storing the OCR and voting disks in ASM would be an issue,
>>> as ASM is just another cluster resource and is generally brought up by ASM.
>>> My guess is they'll be pushing the use of OCFS/OCFS2 a bit more.
>>>
>>> Bradd Piontek
>>> Oracle Blog: http://piontekdd.blogspot.com
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Matthew Zito <mzito@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We were discussing this over here, and the big question we came up
>>>> with is:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Does this mean that simply raw devices a la old school Red Hat
>>>> (/dev/raw/raw1) are desupported, or that all character/non-buffered IO
>>>> devices are desupported (a la /dev/rdsk/c0t0d0s2 or /dev/sda2 with
>>>> O_DIRECT)?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If the former, it's a non-issue for most environments, if it's the
>>>> latter, it opens up a host of questions around what will be supported.
>>>> Effectively, it requires that people have a clustered filesystem to use, or
>>>> somehow Oracle jobbies up ASM such that you can put OCR and voting
>>>> internally and making ASM a dependency for CRS to run.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>>> oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *dba1 mcc
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:30 PM
>>>> *To:* oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; hkchital@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* Re: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Redhat RHEL 6 will also NOT support raw device.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On *Thu, 8/7/08, Hemant K Chitale <hkchital@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>>>>
>>>> From: Hemant K Chitale <hkchital@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: 12G Desupport for Raw Devices
>>>> To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 11:02 AM
>>>>
>>>> For those using Raw Devices (wether for Redo Logs in non-RAC or for
>>>>
>>>> Database Files as well in RAC),
>>>>
>>>> see MetaLink Note#578455.1 "Announcement of De-Support of RAW
>>>>
>>>> devices in Release 12G "
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hemant K Chitale
>>>> http://hemantoracledba.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "A 'No' uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a
>>>>
>>>> 'Yes'
>>>>
>>>> merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble."
>>>>
>>>> Mohandas Gandhi
>>>>
>>>> Quotes
>>>>
>>>> : http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/m/mohandas_gandhi.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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