Jeane:After that first segment of a dream (see To Have and To Hold), I remember a few images from another dream. I’m not sure of the sequence, but in one part I’ve gone to a resort. It’s in the countryside, and to get a spa treatment you have to go outside to another building and down some steps.

There’s a deep green hot pool with women there, and that’s where the massage takes place – underwater. I dip once in the pool, after a couple had gotten a treatment, but I don’t want the full treatment because I don’t like the idea of the treatment being underwater.

That’s one part of it.

John: What you’re describing is an image that comes back into Creation because there’s something apparently that’s needed.

This inner process is like a swinging pendulum and the object is to be right over the top of something, but in a grounded way. If it swings up to where it gets too far off the ground, then as it comes back it doesn’t stop right on the ground, it swings further into the unconscious (the hot pool in the dream).

In other words, your earlier image showed you rising up off the ground among the structures, and now you’ve swung back from that elevation back down into your unconscious. The degree to which you traveled off the ground (gaining insight) becomes the degree to which you go back into a greater veiling (the unconscious). This is a process of testing to what degree you can be open and receptive to something in a greater aspect of the masculine, which is represented by your swings off the ground.

As you lift off the ground, you start to sense imbalances there – as opposed to a wholeness. Then the pendulum swings back, as a way to return to groundedness. You can visualize this pendulum as the out-breath of something coming down, which is masculine, and the in-breath as something coming back, creating a linkage (feminine).

When you’re on the up slope of the pendulum, you’re off the ground and feeling what the structures are like and you only go so far before you realize that you need to come back down. But you don’t come straight down into Creation.

The degree to which you struggled with something on the up slope, or didn’t accept it, you swing back past the original point and down into the unconscious. To the same degree that you go into the unconscious, you realize that you have erred in the other direction. You don’t like that, and you have to try to come back.

In other words, you have a similar reaction in the unconscious where you notice that things aren’t quite balanced and you want to come back to that one particular point.

The pool is green, right?

Jeane: Yes.

John: Which is Creation. I’ve never thought of it like that, but it’s true. That’s what happens and you go back and forth.

In the spiritual path you try to learn how to put something in perspective. You’re hearing something from the rootedness and the groundedness, and then you have subtle inner nuances that arise that swing you out, and you’re trying to let those go, or to relate to them and pull them back to the rootedness.

So, in having to contend with yourself, you find you now have to take in a bigger picture in terms of the inner levels. Thus the statement “As above, so below”: the deeper you’re able to go into yourself the more you’re able to break through the barriers, or the hiddenness, that lock you away or that keep you separate from a greater reality.

Now, the outer and the inner are supposed to come together in the human, so the first phase of development requires going into the depths of yourself. As you do this, you’re getting more energy. You’re redeeming yourself.

As you redeem yourself, you have some freedom which can start to swing up and take on more of the masculine that had previously been too much in your nature because you’d gone astray from your God connection. When this energy is astray, it loses its power, its recognition, and its place – you’re out of balance.

So as you start to face this part of yourself, you have more energy and freedom so you tend to indulge (which is a return to an ego-based separation from the whole). So you swing back to see if you can function more in the spirit energy.

When you awaken the spirit energy that lies within, and it becomes more visual to you, that is the more masculine energy. So, the degree to which you can go into this depth is the degree to which you can face your unconscious, and is the degree to which you can take on a certain element of the masculine that touches the world.

Jeane:I was dreaming a lot, but the motion of the dream made it hard to pull out certain aspects of the story. There was a dynamic going on where it felt like I was in a canyon area where the rocks were all red.

I was trying to climb up high. There were even some people there who were very tall and thin, like Wilt Chamberlain. I kept climbing up high on the rocks, and then I would go down very low, beneath the earth.

At the same time there seemed to be a very slight circular motion going on at a horizontal level. When the dream had people in it – with dialogue and a story line – that seemed to be happening on the horizontal level – in a linear way.

So there was something that was so interesting about going way up on the craggy red rocks and then way down, below the earth, and then also experiencing a little bit of circular motion.

I wasn’t able to pull out the dialogue or the storyline with people, though. It felt like I was trying to hold too much all at one time.

John: The theme last night had to do with being able to put oneself into the flow; of becoming part of the unfolding that is a natural design of life. The images you’re describing are expressing an attitude that seeks to relate more with what is rooted in Creation, represented by the red rocks. You have, by delving into Creation, gone to a greater depth within.

However, that depth within you tends to have spirit energy that is frozen, or confined. So the rising up has to do with something being awakened inside, because something has touched it. That’s where you get the circular motion of rising up and down.

The linear motion – what is occurring on the horizontal plane – is an indication that you (as a human being) are caught trying to personally cope with this awakening. But that’s the wrong approach.

A person who functions at such a personal level can never, ever know what’s really going on because everything they do is reflection of, or a reaction to, what is unfolding. They have limited themselves to understanding only through their senses and then their brain. In doing it that way, they aren’t in touch with, or in tune with, what is unfolding from the standpoint of human nature that is designed to be entwined with and part of the flow of Creation.

This is similar to the idea that total openness – or vulnerability, or surrender – is actually where it’s the safest. That’s because it means a person is connected and entwined with everything; it’s when we are in alignment with Creation that we are most protected. That’s where a human being can function joyously with what is unfolding all around them.

So in your dream we see that you’re looking at the variables. Part of you is still trying to reconcile what is going on. Part of you can see yourself in this linear mode, which is the human being who goes laterally in relationship to life. You might say that is traveling east/west, so you open up a little, and close down a little, but it’s a lateral motion.

Then there’s the part of you that has opened up to the greater dynamic of north/south – going high up to something, and then going down into the depths of something. As a consequence, there is the circular motion you feel.

So it’s a matter of perception. Most of us have become limited in our perception to only one axis – and it’s the one experienced through an ego-based view of life – when we think that we are the center of our own universe, and everything that happens, happens to “us.” Yet if we expand our perception to a fuller view – east/west and north/south – we begin to experience our life as an integral part of all that exists.

It’s our defense mechanisms, personal psychologies, and belief systems that protect and deepen the grip of the linear, east/west motion, and that keep us from being able to grasp the up and down, the inner and the outer, which makes up the wholeness.

The north/south motion enables us to awaken, from within, the imbedded spirit energy that comes from the divine. That process then enables the connection to the divine will, which can guide us through what is always unfolding.

As we become guided, we actually gain access to a subjective quality inside us that is not readily heard because the chatter in the brain can drown it out. But if we connect to the subjective side in our nature, it puts us in touch with, and in synch with, that inner part that’s created in the image of the divine, or from the thought of God.

We can’t catch up with the true nature of life through the east/west axis, we can only “cope” with life. We catch up with it by following the north/south, up/down aspects as well.

You might say the east/west motion is the senses that probe and poke around and do their best to understand the way things are outside of us, with the sun rising and the sun setting. The north/south motion means that you catch up with both the sun side and the moon side of yourself at great heights and depths, which is in tune with the cosmos or the universe to which we’re entwined.

Your dream is looking at these components – by breaking them into separate parts – and seeing how it requires a state of total surrender or openness.

Jeane: I couldn’t pull out most of my dreams last night, and I think it’s because I’m already beginning to contemplate setting up the condo. One thing I remember is an image I had while still awake.

I was seeing with my eyes shut as clearly as I do with them open. I was seeing a room that was filled with marble and polished oak – it was an unusual room.

It’s not a room I’ve seen in real life, but I felt as though I was actually seeing it. There was marble and oak, and even some columns. There was a polished marble table that came out in a curve, and marble floors. The walls seemed to be mostly marble and solid oak. It was a pretty room.

John: So, what was your attention drawn to?

Jeane: I just saw it. I saw it while I was still awake. My eyes were shut, but I saw it as clear as day – that’s why it threw me.

John: Did the marble have a polish to it?

Jeane: Oh yes, the whole room was polished.

John: So, you’re seeing yourself holding, or preserving, a space that is polished like that?

Jeane: I guess so. At least I was seeing it.

John: You weren’t looking out from it, though?

Jeane: No, I was looking in at the room.

John: Just looking in at the room. That’s very grounding isn’t it?

Jeane: Yes.

John: Well, what I think you’re doing is that you’re looking at a polarity.

In other words, this is an aspect through which something is pulled into a base or a state. That base position or state is something that grounds you in a way, which then lets you reach out and explore from there.

You have to develop the auric quality of the vibration of this particular polarity. Then you still have what is yet to unfold, because that requires the energy to be grounded first. Whatever that energy is, it can then project or extend out from this grounded base. It needs to be centered in itself in this way.

If you were to try another way to portray this, it’s like the condo we are considering. The way it is situated, it accentuates something that lies beyond it – it pulls it in, so to speak – almost like into an energetic vacuum.

It’s almost like this polished space you describe, which works in a capacity that can pull into itself, or can contain, by its energetic magnetism, whatever image extends out from this point (of the dream). It can pull it all together into something that’s as solid as marble and oak.

Oak is something very old, marble is something that’s very set and, when it’s polished, it glistens. What exists, beyond what you’re literally looking at, is likely to be of a more temporal nature that comes back to this space as its base.

In other words, the other energetic is in need of something that roots it. So you’re looking at a polarity, or an aspect of what is rooted, which is a reflection of what is occurring in our outer life with the Las Vegas condo.

The image of what we see out the picture window of the condo, in terms of all of the lights of the Strip in Las Vegas, is pulled together, consolidated, harmonized, and balanced out. As the image shows, it’s brought into a polarity that has something to do with holding a quality of rootedness, founded in something old and magnificent with both the naturalness of oak, and the hardness and beauty of ancient marble.

So, that is one aspect of the imagery, of having to see yourself, or something about yourself, in terms of holding a space that is one point of a polarity with something else. So, what does the other aspect look like?

In other words, you’re holding that as half of a component, as a grounded component that provides a base so that something meaningful can be instilled. So what does the other half look like?