You're right, I'm upset at anyone who claims they can answer questions about the Bible and not even mention the name of Christ. You are a gross
dereliction of the facts about Our Father in Heaven first of all. Jesus Christ second.
And thirdly the Bible.

"The true story behind the Bible" You claim authority without even saying it. There is no factual truth to one damn thing you say. Don't expect me not
to be bent at your attempts to pull people away from the truth. Ya it phizzez
me off. Cause you have no idea.

If bigotry is identifying lies about the existence of Christ. Then I'm the biggest bigot you will ever know.

Of course it pains me to know what he went through at Calvary and listen to your lies about him. That is only natural. Bigot it is. But you are still
a liar. Not a judgement either. Judgement carries a sentencing. I'm merely stating a fact.

1. John 8:23- And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

2. John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

3. John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be
delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

4. Romans 12:2
And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and
perfect, will of God.

5. 1 Corinthians 1:20
Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

6. 1 Corinthians 2:6
Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:

7. 1 Corinthians 2:8
Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

8. 2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of
God, should shine unto them.

9. Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against
spiritual wickedness in high places.

Sorry, I got carried away

would you explain to me how these make sense in the theory you described? Thank you.

I came to this conclusion myself. Zeitgeist says nothing about Lucifer, Eden, heaven, nor hell. I only watched zeitgeist after I made these
connections myself. Me watching it was a result of my curiosity after making my own connections.

When he says 'this world' he means Earth, which is hell because we have turned it into hell with our greed and corruption and destruction of mother
Earth. Heaven is above us, meaning space, the rest of the universe.

I'm also new to ATS and I wanted to share a video that I came across a while ago on youtube. In case some of you don't have time to watch this 3
part video, it talks about how all religions are similar and all stemmed from Ra, the Sun God from the ancient Egyptian days. If you have the time I
strongly suggest you take the time and watch these videos. It's very interesting and makes you wonder about your own religion.

You have it backwards, religion is the one that lies, not me. How could I be lying if I truly believe what I say? You are being a pompous bigot right
now yet you do not realize it because you truly believe what you are saying.

I'm not calling you a liar even though I disagree with your worldview because I do not judge others and condemn to eternal torture just because I
don't agree with them.

You have it backwards, religion is the one that lies, not me. How could I be lying if I truly believe what I say? You are being a pompous bigot right
now yet you do not realize it because you truly believe what you are sayin

I think you're looking like the ass. By this you just admitted you're a liar and called yourself a bigot.
You can believe your own lies and still be the biggest liar on the planet. Never called any one on these boards a liar before. but you take the cake
pal. You yourself are the worst kind of religion. Kool aid drinking cults come up under people just like you. Dudette !

I never denied the existence of a man named Jesus from that time. If he truly did exist, he was not god in the flesh as the bible puts it, he was a
regular man no different from you and me.

I just find it hard to believe since there is no historical accounts of this Jesus until 100 years AFTER his death. If he was such an important person
and truly did do the things the bible said he did, why did no scholars from his time mention him? You don't find that a little strange?

Out of all the non-Christians on this board, I am the first you have called a liar? Thank you for affirming to me that my theory threatens your
beliefs so much that you must resort to attacking my character.

If you want anyone to take you seriously try to refute my claims instead of attacking me. Thank you.

religion was\is nothing more then a manipulation of various teachings designed to keep the upper crust upper and the rest of us at the bottom in
fear.

"Fear no evil". I guess you need to know the difference between good and evil is to understand.

ome metaphors, some not, some just the language of the time and much has been removed in order for there to be houses of worship and manipulation,
which leads to finding salvation through men and their building's/teachings the only way to find said heaven, oh and please make a donation before
you go. i like your train of thought and just posting my views on the same problem

Much has been removed?

Don't you think if there was a God, He would be quite capable of getting his message to those who seek it? Believing
that one must depend on salvation by what a another man teaches, in a world of manipulation and control doesn't sound very reasonable does it?

Why would you trust a man...might it not be more rational to seek the Creator of Heaven and Earth yourself? It is an interesting thread isn't it

I find it to be a miracle that he was remembered at all. It would truly be a miracle to have one person remember him and believe on him. I find the
fact that billions believe on him just little bit stranger then what you bring to the table in your feeble mindedness.

See how you are the one who is all backwards assed ?

He died in obscurity in a backwards time. Yet billions believe he was the Son of God. Much more than a metaphor.

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