So you think my view here is being clouded by the experience of being in a totally supportive crowd? Which can't always deliver a victory but the players don't walk on the field wondering if the crowd is going to be there for them.

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BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid."
"It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03

If our professional athletes are such mental midgets that they can't overcome booing by the home crowd due to their historically bad play, or even better use it as fuel to improve their play, then **** 'em all.

BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid."
"It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03

If our professional athletes are such mental midgets that they can't overcome booing by the home crowd due to their historically bad play, or even better use it as fuel to improve their play, then **** 'em all.

Do you think that is an inviting environment for potential free agents or coaches to want to come to?

__________________Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid."
"It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03

So you think my view here is being clouded by the experience of being in a totally supportive crowd? Which can't always deliver a victory but the players don't walk on the field wondering if the crowd is going to be there for them.

Again, if they don't like the situation they play in at home, then they should suck it up, get better, and ensure that they don't have to play in a home environment like that ever again.

This isn't hard to figure out. You really are trolling here, aren't you?

Not at all. I think that when a fan base gets the reputation that we've started to get it becomes a concern.

__________________Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid."
"It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03

I'll tell you what gets potential free agents and coaches...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Sure, but do you want to have to throw more money at someone to compensate for the fact that you have a perceived hostile fan base vs. being considered a top notch place to play because of the fans?

__________________Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid."
"It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03

Not at all. I think that when a fan base gets the reputation that we've started to get it becomes a concern.

And what "reputation" is that, exactly? You act as if it's the fans' fault that the team is shit right now. The fans have become what the team has made them, nothing more. And it doesn't work they other way around, since we're the ones that actually pay to watch them.

And what "reputation" is that, exactly? You act as if it's the fans' fault that the team is shit right now. The fans have become what the team has made them, nothing more. And it doesn't work they other way around, since we're the ones that actually pay to watch them.

You're one of those Save Our Fans people, aren't you?

No. I think the fans have the right to boo and organize and do whatever they want at the right time and place. I think that given the fact that we are in December and have suffered some unthinkable tragedy and adversity this season that it's time to call a truce and just support these guys for the rest of the season.

And seeing this team come out yesterday not having to deal with a hostile crowd and playing so well just cemented my view.

__________________Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid."
"It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03

Having the reputation as one of the loudest and most loyal fanbases in the league didn't help positively.

The reputation that counts is a good work environment, and a winning culture.

We have neither.

I think we will. I don't think it will happen before January. So do we continue to pound on and tear down these guys knowing nothing will happen before then?

__________________Meet the new boss same as the old boss.

BigChiefDave:"Anyone who thought we would only be in Iraq for a few years is either stoned or just stoopid."
"It is unknowable how long that conflict will last. It could last 6 days, 6 wks. I doubt 6 mths." Rummy 2/7/03

No. I think the fans have the right to boo and organize and do whatever they want at the right time and place. I think that given the fact that we are in December and have suffered some unthinkable tragedy and adversity this season that it's time to call a truce and just support these guys for the rest of the season.

And seeing this team come out yesterday not having to deal with a hostile crowd and playing so well just cemented my view.