violent lol I . I could go out all . right every night and not have any trouble. it is far from violent. the reports are all from the same council estates reporting when they have a little scrap with each other 10 Times a day. usually two druggy friends scrapping over the £1.20 the other took.violent crimes against regular folk is non existent.burglary and car crime a different story. I live in one of the roughest town's in the most violent (apparently) part of the UK. I've got a £3000 push bike in the shed no one has ever tried to steal. even though I'm surrounded by jobless drug dealers who fight each other all the time they have never even looked at me funny.all bs

You get higher in the thread yet, or you care to keep rehashing something we've already gone over?

I have posted two bits of info one from the UN website that states that these crime figs from different countries are very unreliable for the use of country to country comparison, due to the different way each country classifies certain crimes and compiles their figs.

The UN website claims that homicide figs are one of the safer for drawing accurate comparisons as there is very little difference how different countries classify this crime.

You can see straight away from the fact that South Africa is apparently less violent than the UK that any comparisons on those figs are completely flawed. Only an utter moron would believe that the UK is more violent than the SA.

If one country has a much higher murder rate than another you can bet your bottom dollar it will also be an all round more violent country. The US has a far, far higher murder rate than the UK.

Lol some fucking stupid folk in this thread, as I'm sure I said about a month ago, those brit stats are based on reported crimes, and the way their grouped.

You guys are the definition of fucking stupid, your actually putting effort into these posts while, being so fucking oblivious to the obvious. If you seriously think violent crime is anywhere, possible, ever, approaching the issues in SA, you must be living in the 13 th century or some shit because your beyond retarded.

Guns escalate violence it's a fucking fact, well established one.

You're in no position to make fun of anyone you ignorant fucking douche.

I have posted two bits of info one from the UN website that states that these crime figs from different countries are very unreliable for the use of country to country comparison, due to the different way each country classifies certain crimes and compiles their figs.

The UN website claims that homicide figs are one of the safer for drawing accurate comparisons as there is very little difference how different countries classify this crime.

You can see straight away from the fact that South Africa is apparently less violent than the UK that any comparisons on those figs are completely flawed. Only an utter moron would believe that the UK is more violent than the SA.

If one country has a much higher murder rate than another you can bet your bottom dollar it will also be an all round more violent country. The US has a far, far higher murder rate than the UK.

Larger and more diverse than the countries being compared. Something like comparing a small town to the big city.

Guns are banned in Russia and Brazil and they're homicide rate is much higher.

I never mentioned guns but I would guess Brazil and Russia are overall more violent countries than the US, but I would also bet your murder rate would be much more in line with western europe if you had similar gun control laws.

I never mentioned guns but I would guess Brazil and Russia are overall more violent countries than the US, but I would also bet your murder rate would be much more in line with western europe if you had similar gun control laws.

Plus Russians hunt with arrows because guns are banned

Plus presence of North Caucasus with islamist militants doesn't have anything to do with those Russian figures - which are btw about twice the rate of USA whereas USA has around 4-times the rate of EU-countries.

I have posted two bits of info one from the UN website that states that these crime figs from different countries are very unreliable for the use of country to country comparison, due to the different way each country classifies certain crimes and compiles their figs.

The UN website claims that homicide figs are one of the safer for drawing accurate comparisons as there is very little difference how different countries classify this crime.

You can see straight away from the fact that South Africa is apparently less violent than the UK that any comparisons on those figs are completely flawed. Only an utter moron would believe that the UK is more violent than the SA.

If one country has a much higher murder rate than another you can bet your bottom dollar it will also be an all round more violent country. The US has a far, far higher murder rate than the UK.

The chickens came home to roost, plain and simple. Poor minorities who's countries have been completely fucked up by hundreds of years of British colonialism came to the U.K for a better life.

Poor people are the one's that commit the most crimes even in countries that are homogenous. Any "liberal guilt" the British may have causing them to deal with the problem less severely is well deserved.

Historically, Great Britain has a lot to answer for and if karma does exist things will get worse for them before they get better.