In Response to Re: Pat's release Haynesworth.... : Clearly, a regular season win is far more important to you. I'll tell you what. You can have this one next week on your way to one and done AGAIN... maybe not even one.Posted by JetMangione

Sure, we will take it. I brought up this year and you brought up the past.

Revis gets away with more contact after 5 yards then any player in the league. Watch him play and you will see, constant contact after 5 yards. Pretty much every pass his way could get called for illegal contact after 5 yards.

In Response to Re: Pat's release Haynesworth.... : 2 more sacks, better against the run than the Pats and the Jets have only had one bad game against the run. Aside from the Raiders game, Jets give up 3.5 ypc. I'll take that. It's tough replacing a few DL probowlers in the same year and starting a rookie on the line. It's paying off now, though.Posted by JetMangione

Keep telling yourself that, and why ur at it, tell the world that this is the year you will win a superbowl.

I strongly suspect that Albert was Pepper Johnson's science project from Day#1 and it was his ... on the line too. One of our less successful reclamation projects I guess..... What else are you gonna do if the guy doesn't want to compete?Posted by threejak

Somehow I just don't believe Belichick gives his minions that much rope. This was a belichick risk call same as the other before Haynesworthless.

In Response to Re: Pat's release Haynesworth.... : 2 more sacks, better against the run than the Pats and the Jets have only had one bad game against the run. Aside from the Raiders game, Jets give up 3.5 ypc. I'll take that. It's tough replacing a few DL probowlers in the same year and starting a rookie on the line. It's paying off now, though.Posted by JetMangione

We're talking about the DL dumb@ss not the entire defense. Mark Anderson and Andre Carter individually have more sacks than your entire DL combined. Your evidence for how they are better than the Pats against the run is subtracting one of the games where they got absolutely run over (hint hint the Raiders didn't do the same thing to NE).

Of course now you'll bring up some non-sequitur about the Pats secondary or the Jets' linebackers, but I tried...

Beyond Andre Carter's productivity, plans for the D-line this year really haven't panned out. Shaun Ellis has had health issues, Haynesworth is cut, and Myron Pryror and Mike Wright are both on IR.

I hope Belichick is ready to really invest in the trenches in the next draft. Other than Big Vince, that unit has needed an overhaul for the past two or three years. Instead, it's been a patchwork of vets on one-year deals, or late-round/undrafted guys like Pryor, Deaderick, and Kyle Love.

It's time to stop using a slew of top picks on CBs and spend a first-rounder on a talented young DE/DT. Quinton Coples is going to be out of reach without giving up a boatload of picks (see Jones, Julio & Atlanta Falcons), but I don't think a Jerel Worthy (Mich St.) or Brandon Thompson (Clemson) would be out of reach. You can probably also get Jared Crick (Nebraska) later in the first round due to the torn pectoral.

Sorry if this has been said earlier in the thread already -- I did not have time to read all four pages.

In Response to Re: Pat's release Haynesworth.... : Oooh, I see. You want to compare the DL sacks on a team that plays almost exclusively 3-4 to a team that plays mostly 4-3. Should we compare passing yards for a team that throws 60% of the time with one that throws 50% of the time? Weren't you wondering why your NT has been in the flat? Wait, you don't actually watch football, do you?Posted by JetMangione

YOU were the one that brought up sacks moron. I was the one that pointed out that the Jets DL is not anywhere near the top of the league in sacks. YOU were the one that tried to compare the Jets team sacks to the Pats team sacks as evidence that the Jets DL has more sacks. I was simply pointing out the idiocy of your viewpoint. A common theme in most of your posts.

Look who I was quoting when I mentioned the Jets DL has almost no sacks. Surprise Surprise it was you saying the Jets DL was up there in sacks. You really are the dumbest person I have ever encountered on a message board.

In Response to Re: Pat's release Haynesworth.... : If not, here's one... Jet's DL has much depth, is up there in sacks, QB pressures and is 50% of that top 10 Defense. Pats defensive backfield blows, like maybe worst ever. Maybe you should have taken Wilson instead of McCourty. Posted by JetMangione

This roster has little chance of winning the SB,.........Posted by rameakap

With 8 games to go, I hope you eat your words. How do you think this fan base felt in 2001 after 8 games and we all know what happened in that season!!!!! "Ya never know until the fat lady sings so don't jump ship too quickly. I am certain the players appreciate your confidence!!