Is it me, or do most liberals have their heads stuck so far up their asses that they won't even consider any of their thoughts could be wrong, and that they're somehow magically more educated than everything else. I'm very conservative in many ways, but I'm at least willing to hold a civil, intelligent discussion about issues.

A couple of assholes (politically, at least) I know become pretty high and mighty whenever political issues come up. Any point you bring up, they don't have intelligent responses to, other than veiled insults like "just more conservative brainwashing" or "you aren't very well read, are you" (having no way of knowing how much I actually have read). Then they self-congratulate themselves by gloating to each other.

I've also observed that most liberals seem to feel it's their right (or even mission) to impose their thoughts upon others, whereas conservatives tend to be more laid back and reserved and keep their damn mouths shut unless they have something worthwhile to add.

Are my observations wrong? Does this shit piss you guys off as much as it does me? Like I said, I'm all about intelligent discussion, but immediate dismissal of legitimate opinions as unintelligent without proof just seems fucking stupid.

Also, I tend to notice that these loudass liberal folk tend to be losers in their own right. One of these guys is stuck in some backwards ass 3rd world city in India, because he can't get H-1B here after schooling was completed, and the other makes very little money, and relies upon his wife for most of his income. That's even more annoying to me.

A couple of assholes (politically, at least) I know become pretty high and mighty whenever political issues come up. Any point you bring up, they don't have intelligent responses to, other than veiled insults like "just more conservative brainwashing" or "you aren't very well read, are you" (having no way of knowing how much I actually have read). Then they self-congratulate themselves by gloating to each other.

I have this problem with right wing conservatives. An easy example is Mr Toes on this board. Some people just spout off whatever they have been taught or heard by the watercooler and claim it for their own thought, without ever really looking into it.

I have this problem with right wing conservatives. An easy example is Mr Toes on this board. Some people just spout off whatever they have been taught or heard by the watercooler and claim it for their own thought, without ever really looking into it.

I'm cracking up right now.

Your the guy that sticks his foot in his mouth every time you open it with complete and utter unsupported liberal communist anti American chicken shit bullshit.

I guess I can make the presumption that you are in fact one of the liberals refered to. A guy that will vote a straight Democrat party ticket even if Hitler was the candidate. A sheep actually, one that can't think for himself but has to have some type of club, or organization tell him what he thinks. You are every dictators dream, as is true with most liberals. Spinless gutless unpatriotic bloodsuckers that will never make a single sacrifice for anybody but themselves.

Yeah, I know exactly what you are talking about. And Mike, It's true that most groups have these kind of people. But from what I've experienced, At MSU, is that most liberals are like this. Maybe the laid back, Think before they talk, People just don't get a Chance to say anything because the "liberal" can't shut his mouth. But, I do know more that are the Sterotypical Liberal then a Laid back one.

I saw this as a Bumper sticker once:
"Liberal - A person so open minded that thier brain has fallen out"

Your the guy that sticks his foot in his mouth every time you open it with complete and utter unsupported liberal communist anti American chicken shit bullshit.

I guess I can make the presumption that you are in fact one of the liberals refered to. A guy that will vote a straight Democrat party ticket even if Hitler was the candidate. A sheep actually, one that can't think for himself but has to have some type of club, or organization tell him what he thinks. You are every dictators dream, as is true with most liberals. Spinless gutless unpatriotic bloodsuckers that will never make a single sacrifice for anybody but themselves.

You go girl !!!!!!!!!

I can always count on you to prove my points better than I can myself. See post #3.

Yeah, I know exactly what you are talking about. And Mike, It's true that most groups have these kind of people. But from what I've experienced, At MSU, is that most liberals are like this. Maybe the laid back, Think before they talk, People just don't get a Chance to say anything because the "liberal" can't shut his mouth. But, I do know more that are the Sterotypical Liberal then a Laid back one.

I saw this as a Bumper sticker once:
"Liberal - A person so open minded that thier brain has fallen out"

I guess that's kinda my point. I'm definitely not saying that all liberals are this way, I'm saying the proportions of loudmouths to quiet ones seem to be way out of wack on the liberal side of things.

I guess that's kinda my point. I'm definitely not saying that all liberals are this way, I'm saying the proportions of loudmouths to quiet ones seem to be way out of wack on the liberal side of things.

Ahhhhh, You don't get it. Most conservatives Are just that, Conservatives. Toes is a General Exception that proves that most groups have a few loudmouths. Liberals just seem to have a Larger number of them. Just think about all the "anti- Bush" stickers. Then When/If a president that Liberals support gets in office, see how many "anti (Insert name here)" Stickers you see.

Ahhhhh, You don't get it. Most conservatives Are just that, Conservatives. Toes is a General Exception that proves that most groups have a few loudmouths. Liberals just seem to have a Larger number of them. Just think about all the "anti- Bush" stickers. Then When/If a president that Liberals support gets in office, see how many "anti (Insert name here)" Stickers you see.

I kinda thought I was more of a spokesman. lol

A problem with the conservative side is they don't speak out, as such there are numerous things that the liberals voice thier opinions on that go unchallenged and evenually become accepted as the opinion of the general public, conservatives included.

I don't think the liberals have a monopoly on being annoying. Just as some liberals will lecture about their environmental beliefs and try to impose them on everyone there's conservatives that will try to do the same with their religious beliefs. Just as some liberals will accuse people who disagree as "not being well read" theres conservative that will tell you that unless you've read books by Ayn Rand you can't possibly understand how capitalism is supposed to work.

I think that at the root of the problem is that we've largely given over all discussion of issues to the extremists on both sides while those of us with moderate views sit quietly on the sidelines.

I don't think the liberals have a monopoly on being annoying. Just as some liberals will lecture about their environmental beliefs and try to impose them on everyone there's conservatives that will try to do the same with their religious beliefs. Just as some liberals will accuse people who disagree as "not being well read" theres conservative that will tell you that unless you've read books by Ayn Rand you can't possibly understand how capitalism is supposed to work.

I think that at the root of the problem is that we've largely given over all discussion of issues to the extremists on both sides while those of us with moderate views sit quietly on the sidelines.

I don't think the liberals have a monopoly on being annoying. Just as some liberals will lecture about their environmental beliefs and try to impose them on everyone there's conservatives that will try to do the same with their religious beliefs. Just as some liberals will accuse people who disagree as "not being well read" theres conservative that will tell you that unless you've read books by Ayn Rand you can't possibly understand how capitalism is supposed to work.

I think that at the root of the problem is that we've largely given over all discussion of issues to the extremists on both sides while those of us with moderate views sit quietly on the sidelines.

Did you cry when you typed that. You should have because thats a sad statement, true but sad.