Ima4nic8or:I have no real opinion on the "art" but wonder whether the painting was approved. If not then they are just idiot crims who belong in jail. If it was officially sanctioned then more power to them.

If only there were a news article about this that said something like, "The ship's owners have given their blessing to the pop art collective's project." Too bad there's nothing like that available.

jtown:Ima4nic8or: I have no real opinion on the "art" but wonder whether the painting was approved. If not then they are just idiot crims who belong in jail. If it was officially sanctioned then more power to them.

If only there were a news article about this that said something like, "The ship's owners have given their blessing to the pop art collective's project." Too bad there's nothing like that available.

tillerman35:The ship's owners have given their blessing to the pop art collective's project.

Doesn't that automatically make it not worth bothering with to graffiti artists?

Spoken like someone who has no clue what the graffiti culture is about.

You have two main groups, taggers and artists. Taggers just want to spray their ridiculous, illegible scrawl wherever they can. Artists actually want to create art. Public graffiti walls are quite common and have amazing art, since the artists don't have to watch for cops. The rules are basic: Don't mark on someone's piece, and don't spray your tag on buildings around the wall. Every few weeks, whoever owns the building paints the wall over, and it starts agin.

If I hadn't dropped out of film school early, my documentary was going to be on the art in graffiti vs. the garbage of the straight taggers. I was even going to shoot the art on film stock, and the tagging on a shiatty video camera to create the mood I was going for.

Ima4nic8or:I have no real opinion on the "art" but wonder whether the painting was approved. If not then they are just idiot crims who belong in jail. If it was officially sanctioned then more power to them.

Maybe you should try reading TFA. It's all of 15 sentences long...

The ship's owners have given their blessing to the pop art collective's project.

Mikey1969:You have two main groups, taggers and artists. Taggers just want to spray their ridiculous, illegible scrawl wherever they can. Artists actually want to create art. Public graffiti walls are quite common and have amazing art, since the artists don't have to watch for cops. The rules are basic: Don't mark on someone's piece, and don't spray your tag on buildings around the wall. Every few weeks, whoever owns the building paints the wall over, and it starts agin.

Correct. We have some warehouses close to the train line that I take to get into NYC that paint and repaint their walls all the time to encourage good street art.

I'm not going to judge its value as art; just because it's not to my personal taste, that doesn't mean it's not art to somebody.

However, one thing it's assuredly not: graffiti.

Graffiti is, by definion, applied without consent of the owner of the graffitied object. This was done with the consent and, it seems, encouragement of the owner. (And they stand to profit from it, should it garner sufficient press, so that's not surprising.)

gweilo8888:I'm not going to judge its value as art; just because it's not to my personal taste, that doesn't mean it's not art to somebody.

However, one thing it's assuredly not: graffiti.

Graffiti is, by definion, applied without consent of the owner of the graffitied object. This was done with the consent and, it seems, encouragement of the owner. (And they stand to profit from it, should it garner sufficient press, so that's not surprising.)

Well it's better than anything Jackson Pollock ever produced. I can admit that much.

I know this thread is "old" now by Fark standards, but if anyone is interested in "Banksy" or if you simply don't understand the reference, there is a very interesting documentary(?) called "Exit Through The Giftshop". Produced by Banksy...kinda sorta. NetFlix has it available for streaming.Once you're done watching it, there's a couple of ways to interpret what it was about or what it's actual purpose is.

/I like movies that aren't always cut & dry, no pun intended with this being a "street art" topic.