Oh ok basically the nasty stuff is was I felt was necessary as the situation I'm in isn't nice I was pumped for information by a guy that was talking to another girl but he was gossiping about me to her so she would know information about me.

How TO I DELETE MY PREVIOIUS QUESTION I JUST REALISED its more trouble then its worth.

I did this spell today. I used one of those disposable baking dishes over the stove I didn't feel comfortable using a pan that I would normally use to cook with. I used fresh and dried pepper flakes, mustard seeds and pepper rolled in a picture of the guy and the girl. I had some old letters from him with his handwriting so I cut letters out and glued them to her picture to read "I hate you" and "break up". When I did the spell every thing started popping inside which I took as a good sign. I said my intentions over it turning the head down letting it cool then starting again. It was smoking and some of the stuff came out I just let it continue but I almost choked on the smoke to the point that I had to stop. Im not sure how to interpret that the relationship is going to be choked or that they are fighting the spell. Any thoughts? Thank you for your help I've been following the forum for a while but just made my account tonight.

I've never done the cig in the pan spell before, but it certainly sounds like the perfect spell to work along side a vinegar jar during those times when you need to add some extra punch to an ongoing spell.

Wondering what the recommendation is regarding my situation.

My ex man is very much controlled by the meddling whore, but her entire family also has a bizarre hold on him - even though he has often told me he can't stand them and I've seen him get upset at them but he never lets them see his anger. Never in all these years! He shouts at me instead about things they did to upset him.

My questions:

1) Would it be okay to use a pic of the family posing together and use that in the pan along with a separate pic of him?

2) Or would it be better to use one of only her (in the pan with him) as she's the key trouble maker that keeps him stuck to her and her family?

3) Or perhaps I should use the family pic, one of her and one of him and turn the heat up on the lot of them in those 3 cigs?

Great if the family ends up arguing with him and among themselves, but my real goal here is for him to argue with the lot of them or at the very least with her.

I will be doing this in about 2 weeks when I know they are in town and my man will be hanging around them like a pathetic groupie (totally messed up family btw).

Word of warning: have a medical mask ready. I'd have choked without it and wouldn't have been able to shout my wish for them to fight. I tried in the beginning without it, but the fumes filling the air really took my breath away.

My real obstacle regarding this curse is that I don't live alone and that sure makes it hard to explain why you have two rolled up pieces of paper heating up in a pan and stinking up the place!

I had to do it when I was alone in the house (which is not often at all) and still have enough time afterwards to let in fresh air to avoid awkward questions.

Although I burned them both nice and dark brown, I was not able to continue this until the cigs had disintegrated (lack of alone time). Actually I am okay with that. I am building up to a week from now when Miss Meddling Whore will return to town.

Afterwards, I took the cigs outside and lit fire crackers around them. Kind of to signal the start of the fighting. Be careful, those crackers explode faster than you might expect.

Since my cigs have not yet disintegrated, I decided to take tin foil and place them in there. I added peppers and also vandal root and Goofer Dust to the foil package. Then I rolled them up nice and tight, shinny side showing towards the cigs. I have placed it in a jar containing nothing but dark vinegar to at least keep them surrounded by sourness. This is not an actual vinegar jar spell. I merely decided it's best to keep them in there until I can remove the cigs and heat them up again once they are in each others presence next weekend. I will finish the spell then. I guess you can say I am forced to work a slower version of the spell.

This was the best I could do given the very limited privacy I get in the kitchen.

While they were in the pan I also worked their vinegar jar. Shaking it and telling them that their anger towards each other is heating up. Then I'd toss the cigs around the pan some more before working the jar again while the cigs heated up again.

Miss Aida that is a great idea about the outside BBQ. There are BBQ areas in the yard, but I can't even use those without attracting nosey attention. The only time is when I have the place completely to myself which very rarely happens. It is so frustrating.

Forced by circumstances and inspired by Conjureman Ali's pan spell, I came up with my own variation.

I went ahead and made the cigs like CMA describes. As stated above I did the pan thing but couldn't keep at it due to my alone time running out.

What I came up with is the following. I make the cigs as CMA instructs (although I added their hair, not sure if CMA spell includes that). Then I place each of them in tin foil with the shiny side on top. I take a red chilly pod for each cig, cut them open at the bottom, remove the seeds onto the foil and then place the cigs inside the pods so that they are incased in them. Then I cover the pod cigs with more chilly seeds, pod pieces and cayenne pepper as they lay on the foil. Also sprinkled with Vandal root. I added hotfoot and Goofer to hers. Speaking my intention the whole time. I then roll the cigs up in the foil, pretty tightly.

The next stage was to boil water in a small pot in the stove. I was able to do this without attracting attention as it is nothing unusual for me to be boiling something on the stove. When it started to boil I placed the cigs in the pot. I imagined them fighting and even throwing gifts away, deleting each others numbers. I kept repeating "You're anger towards each other is heating up, it's boiling over. You're fighting. You're arguing. The anger is too intense, too hot. You hate each other. You're done." I would remove the pot from the plate for a little while and then back on and get the water to boil again while repeating the above over and over.

The cigs actually are cooking inside the foil due to steam. I removed the cigs and stored it in a jar of vinegar (not a vinegar curse jar spell, just plain vinegar) and told them that now that they are fighting their feelings for each other are turning as sour as the vinegar. I placed the jar in a dark corner surrounded on each side by vinegar bottles.

Later I boiled it again. By the time your remove the foil the cigs will basically be pulp like. The things added to the foil would have soaked into the cigs. This makes it quick and easy to bury unnoticed in a cemetery as you won't have to dig as deep as when you go to bury, for example, the contents of a vinegar jar (I have a thing about burying vinegar jar contents very deep). You dig a whole and put the cigs in there and it will quickly disintegrate and mesh with the earth.

Sorry if this question has been asked before: but I seem to remember a vinegar/urine spell that would cause people to "break up" and fight. I'm wanting make sure my boyfriends doesn't have anything to do with the two mothers of his children. One he already hates but one he has a civili relationship with. But this one I feel may be turning the evil eye towards he and I. So I'm doing work in steps. First part being to ensure there's nothing other than coparenting going on. And if they fight and fall out, all the better. I have ordered some items from LM and just waiting on it. Any help or advice would be great.

It was the "cigarette" spell that ConjureMan Ali suggests on the first page of this thread. Some people mentioned that they get nasty fumes; I don't know if from the chillies, the paper or the frying pan itself but, like I said, I didn't get anything like that.

There was some 'smoke' coming from the pan but I think that is normal of all pans when they hit up but nothing that could't be handled.

So now the papers have burnt. It took a while because I was just doing about 5 minutes per day. I have to admit that seeing them burning was very satisfying

What do I do with the remnants now?

Some of the ashes would probably be washed away when I wash the frying pan. But what about the loose ashes and the two little pieces of the cigarettes that are left? I am sure they can't be just thrown away.

We live in different countries so taking them to his house is not an option. Neither keeping them in my house, right?

Also, do I need to start again with two new cigarettes or is the trick done and dusted and I just let it do its thing?

I have done the cigarette paper trick and it has worked very quickly. I baptised and the name papers which I wrote on parchment paper with black pen. Focused anger into my hands on each one. Placed red hot chilli powder; birds eyes chillis, chilli flakes and cayenne pepper into each. Rolled them up and twisted each end. Now the fumes were awful so I got a frying pan and placed a lid over it which kept them smoking and trapped in the heat and anger longer.
I aired my house and cleansed myself and it afterwards and still the smell was catching my breath. Completely take This as a sign of Them arguing about me as during the week they were and I was told they are fighting like mental. I have buried a vinegar jar in the cemetery also with remains of this trick I previously had done within it.
Now il sit back and let it manifest as I have enough negative work aimed at them and am confident it is all working and taking form.
This trick however is fantastic for causing arguments and disputes

I did the Conjureman Ali's "cigarette" trick a few months ago and it took about two weeks before the photos burned on the pan. I did it again today and one of them became ash really quick! The other one burnt fast as well but wasn't ash...very carefully I tried to open a little bit of it with the tip of a knife to see which one it was but it just disintegrated more so I just left it alone.

Next time, I will have to write the name of each person on the back of the photo to see who burns faster!

I know this is an old thread but I have a question(s) - I wanted to do one of these spells (either a jar or something similar) to cause issues between my bf and his ex. Here is the thing: they have children together so I don't want to affect the kids. It's just she (the ex) now realized I guess that using his kids against him works in her benefit - so now she uses the children as a reason to text him at all hours and many times we have found out that the "major situations" she had are just made up to have a reason to text him- then she says it's been handled after she gets him all riled up or away from our evening out, etc. The other concern I have is that I read numerous threads and they all say that they will both become very angry - but I want to cause confusion between them - not for him towards me or in general. So would these confusion spells be appropriate or would something else be suggested?

This is part of the reason I have not done hotfoot because I worry it will push him away as well because he is so close to his children. I did try to do a freezer spell and she is no longer so angry and bitter towards him - but now like I said she calls him for every single little thing at least 10 times a day - and to make matters worse, I have noticed he is now easily irritated when I ask about anything he is doing with/for his kids like he thinks I am trying to keep him from them- which is NOT the case. Any suggestions? Should I keep the freezer spell? Make a confusion jar? Or something totally different? I also read somewhere on here about a cigarette spell to bring him closer to me- but a couple of the threads that I found mentioned that he might get sick or depressed (?). Clarity on these suggestions would be most helpful... thank you!

I used the trick with putting name papers filled with hot peppers, etc., on the stove. I used dried hot peppers, red pepper flakes, black pepper, poppy seeds, lemon verbena, and licorice root. I couldn’t get the packet for person A to stay closed so I pushed 9 tiny nails through it and made sure that the nails kept hitting person B’s packet when I had them on the heat. I did the heating them up and then letting them cool off thing for awhile and then the last time I turned the heat on, the packet for person B just about caught fire! It was smoking so bad I had to take the whole pan outside. Person B has a realllllllly bad temper so I think that’s a good sign?

A couple days later I made a new packet for person B and did the trick again. I kept it from burning so much this time because my house still reeked of smoke from the first time! By the end, the packet for person B was about as burnt as the one for person A. Then I got called out of town for a few days for work and just left everything sitting there. When I got back, I didn’t have the energy to work it and decided to wait another day to rest. I started hearing a weird noise in the kitchen and after awhile realized that the pan was shaking all by itself! The stove had been off for days and it was on the back burner with nothing around it. Has anyone else had that happen?

I did the cigarette rolled up spell and the one without any oil (destructive and jinx oil) just turned black and won't burn down to ashes. The other one without any oil (the man I want to have) burns into ashes quickly. Does oil play a factor in the burning process(sorry, chemistry sucks here) ? How should I deploy just one cigarette rolled up (the woman I need to get rid of)? same as on the deploy page?''

So I just did the cigarette trick for 2 days now. I just wanted to ask how often can I do this trick? Also, not sure if I’m supposed to give it a break in between like every hour, or just take the pan off of the stove to let it cool down for a minute before putting it back on until the roll up photos are all burnt/toasted and had turn into ashes. Lastly, if I can’t dispose the ashes at a crossroad, or their house (I don’t think they live together yet), can I just flush it down the toilet? Sorry if this has been answered already in prior pages, but I appreciate any response. thank u!

thank you so much for the replies. I’ve been doing this since last Saturday. Not sure if im deploying it at crossroads (four way streets) correctly, but yesterday, I overheard the girl saying she’s moody, and that alot has been going on and that she didn’t get a good sleep. I’m not sure if these were due to the spell, as I dont have a way to find out what’s going on with my ex(although I would like to think so). My question is, how soon does this trick take effect? If I don’t deploy it, does that mean it wont work? I had a vinegar jar that I haven’t deployed yet. I’m concern if the spell wont work.

another question.. is there some type of meaning if one rolled up cig. burns faster than the other one? i figured, since theyre put in the pan and heated at the same time, that they’d burn at the same rate. Does that mean the other person is more angry than the other??
Also, if one turned to ashes completely, but the other one is still quite intact, do i just continue with heating the pan up until both turned to ashes?

1- is there some type of meaning if one rolled up cig. burns faster than the other one? i figured, since theyre put in the pan and heated at the same time, that they’d burn at the same rate. Does that mean the other person is more angry than the other?? - It's a very strong possibility, yes

2-Also, if one turned to ashes completely, but the other one is still quite intact, do i just continue with heating the pan up until both turned to ashes?-That is correct.

I love this thread. I have a few questions. My husband and i were in the process of reconciling and working out our issues but there’s some woman hanging around and lingering and I need her to go away. I want them to fight and i want to it be nasty
1) i intend to do CM’s cigarette spell. Did I read that it was okay to put the ashes in a vinegar jar? Or would it be better to toss them in her yard?
Because I intend to buy a fixed break up bottle and just add the 4 thieves vinegar to said jar.
2) I have never done bottle spell and as I said I want to do a break up bottle and add the vinegar to sour the relationship between my husband and this woman. Would I need to add anything extra in the LM break up bottle that isn’t already in there?
3) I want to also ask deacon Millet to reinforce my work by burning candles for me as well. Would this be okay ?
4) is it ok to work these spells in conjunction with healing spells i am working for our relationship ?
5) lastly I know that I need to cleanse after i do this work due to the nature. Would a 13 herb bath be ok or would I need hyssop?

I will answer each question after the queston:
1) I intend to do CM’s cigarette spell. Did I read that it was okay to put the ashes in a vinegar jar? Or would it be better to toss them in her yard? -Either way if fine

2) I have never done bottle spell and as I said I want to do a break up bottle and add the vinegar to sour the relationship between my husband and this woman. Would I need to add anything extra in the LM break up bottle that isn’t already in there? -No, it is not necessary

3) I want to also ask deacon Millet to reinforce my work by burning candles for me as well. Would this be okay ?-That is fine

4) is it ok to work these spells in conjunction with healing spells i am working for our relationship ?-Yes

5) lastly I know that I need to cleanse after I do this work due to the nature. Would a 13 herb bath be ok or would I need hyssop?-]Either is fine. The 13 herb bath does have Hyssop in it

I'm about to do a vinegar jar combined with the 'fighting like cats and dogs' spell. However, I can't for the life of me find a damn cat! When you need them they are nowhere to be found. I have éverything else, just not te cat hair. Is it possible to add the dog and cat hair later on, or it is important to keep the lid closed after the spell is completed?

I can't go to any shelters (closed), nor do people in my circle have any cats. I drove three times around the block where I knów there are cats to be found, and I did find one, but when I turned around it turned out to be Houdini. The damn thing was GONE. Disappeared into thin air. No cat.

I'm doing this tonight since there's a new moon tomorrow. Help would be appreciated.

Oh, also, a fast and simple way to cleanse myself is welcome. I have no bath, nor any special oils, just sea salt, white candles, and meditation. Will that do?

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Thank you for this, and sorry about the new topic, I'll do it properly next time!

Okay, so I'm working on it now for 4 out of 9 days. Afterwards I'm gonna bury it. I'll keep it closed the entire time. However, is it possible for me to add the cat and dog hair to the lid with melted wax? And I mean ON TOP of the lid?

You could try that, but you'd want the name papers to come in contact with those hairs, which they won't do if the hairs are on the lid. So the hairs probably wouldn't affect much. But you could still try it.

Take care.

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2. The pan and lid for the pan caught on fire while working the spell. The lid for the pan is glass; it ended up breaking, and I placed some of the broken glass into the vinegar jar that I am also working on the couple. How can I go about preventing a fire if/when I work this spell in the future?

3. The name papers I used were charred beyond recognition by the end of working the spell, but did not turn to ash. Considering I do not live near a crossroads, I flushed both of the name papers down the toilet with the intent and focus that this would flush their relationship down the toilet and that their relationship would be turned to crap, including the name paper of the man I want to return to me. As I flushed, I chanted a curse for their relationship to fall apart.

Considering that I had to alter some parts, is that okay and is it still possible to yield the results that I want?

I'm not really sure how this caught fire with the three liquid ingredients you used (or why you used them in the pan trick CMAli described), so i'm unsure how to help here, hopefully someone else has insight?

Crossroads are in a lot of places and it doesn't have to be dirt; the problem I see here is you said you flushed the name paper of the man you want to return to you. This signifies to me that hes not worth anything and you flushed him AWAY which is the opposite of what you want to do with him in regards to yourself.

Things are done a certain way because workers have found that "formula" gives the desired outcome. If you start changing the formula, you might get the same result, but you might not.

Just something to think about when you do future workings! Hopefully someone else can help you further.

I just want his current girl out of the picture before I do any reconciliation work for us. I started doing the cig trick today. I’ve already heated the pan 3 times.

1) Once the cigs turn into ashes, can I place them under the door mat at his house (or their house. My ex says they don’t live together but the last time I was there she redecorated and had bags of clothes there)?

2) Also, I saw on this thread about someone buying slippers and putting break-up and confusion powders in it. If I do that on him, will that cause him to be confused towards having a relationship with me too?

3) I was also interested in doing the candle with break-up and confusion oils in it. He loves burning candles so that would be perfect. But again, would that cause him to be confused towards me as well?

4) Or can I just put break-up oil/powder to make them permanently break-up?

There is a piece of the work of magic you have not yet come to understand or experience: You call your desire, wish, command, plea, petition, or prayer into the work as you do it. Thus thinking that it might somehow accidentally affect the wrong people is not a worry. Focus your attention and speak from your heart, and what you call for be granted!

So, one of my ex is currently trying to date another ex of him, who used to be drug addict (on heroine). He told me after one meeting that he is so in love again, bla bla, told all my friends the same. I feel really upset from the whole situation, because I feel it ruins my self confidence as a female. I would accept anyone else, just not that junkie. During the past few months despite being an ex of me I supported and did favours to this guy thousands of times. He even asked me to do a favour to him today! Why he doesn't ask her, instread? I am so pissed off but don't show him. I made a lemon break up spell yesterday and a freezer spell for her, however he wants for us all to meet on Saturday. I am gonna said I am ill abd wouldn't go because I don't want to lose my mind. What else can I do to ruin their date on Saturday?
Believe me, I don't love or want him back, I just don't want that bitch around. I have only her pictures and date of birth without the year. From him getting a personal concern is not a problem - I hold the key to his apartment.

Meet with the girl and put break up oil on your hand and shake her hand. then excuse yourself to the restroom and wash it off. A moving candle spell with two black figures would help break them up. Be patient with the work, it may take a few weeks/months but the end result will be the same. I would take two photos of them one of each person. Dress with break up oil, add poppy for confusion red pepper to fight, alum to shut their mouths up from one another, get a really hot pepper seed to really cause a burning fight. Make a paper packet out of them and toss them on a skillet that is hot while you shake it around and pray to cause fighting and anger and hatred.

Yes, I read the packets trick and I am gonna try it. However, my order is on the way and i don't have the separation products yet. Only Follow me Boy which I use with some success on the guy. Sprinkled some powder in his home and now he is contacting me more than usual. I have his personal concerns (hair, clothes) and a black skull candle. Was thinking to make a poppet and skull candle spell. Maybe I can influence him to leave her? Again, I don't want him back as a lover, neighter I want to harm him bad.

Vida, work with what you have and add the items when they come, or make new ones. Doll babies are a great way to influence, bind or stop a person as well. Miss Aida has a great book filled with ideas on skull candles and working to end relationships.