Gen 3 RoA CCaT Cycle 1: ADV OU - Mission Aborted

Residents of Jinsy, stand by your tesselators, and sing, sing, sing *coughs* because the inaugural RoA CCaT is here!

OK - Jelli gave me permission to host this CCaT in whatever gen and tier I wanted, and I chose ADV OU. (as the tiers change in future CCaTs, so will the hosts probably). I am nicking these rules, steps, and guidelines from Pocket's OU CCaT, just with some adjustments, to suit ADV OU better.

Step 1: We are going to start by picking which forgotten Pokemon (and set) we are going to be basing the team around. This does NOT mean the Pokemon has to be the late game sweeper, it means the team will be built around that Pokemon, whatever role it plays. This thread is for nominating Pokemon to be added to a poll (Pokemon that you think fit the description of a "forgotten" Pokemon). Once enough Pokemon are in the poll (around 12 optimally but it depends), I will select which Pokemon are going to be in the poll that will be posted after we decide on a list of Pokemon. This means you have to convince me, and others, that your Pokemon is worth being put in the vote.

Note: A "Forgotten Wonder" is something is less used then the average ADV OU Pokemon / set, but is still powerful enough to be used in the standard metagame. Just use common sense for this one.

Step 2: We select what style of team we want to make. For example, team playstyles include Balance, Stall, Semi-Stall, or Bulky Offense.

Step 3: We select Pokemon that work well around our chosen Pokemon and fit the team style and test it. we are at this stage

Step 4: We fine-tune the team based on our experiences in test-driving the team on the ladder if we can (but it's difficult due to the lower activity levels on the ADV ladder). We will also probably do some form of challenge system within #ruinsofalph but I'll figure that out better at that stage of the process.

Step 5: We finalize the team and write up a 5-star RMT!

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Begin suggesting pokes and sets for the team - as I mentioned earlier, use common sense and this will work great with enough activity. remember - don't theorymon - use tested sets.

Good luck and have fun!

THE CURRENT TEAM:

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Chaosbreon! It's a pretty mean strategy; Mean Look, Taunt, and Baton Pass to a counter - rinse and repeat. It also doubles up as a Wish passer ;d This Umbreon is usually paired with Perish Song Celebi.

All vets use CB King, lol. It's pretty hard to make a team around this mon, so it will be a good challenge, imo. Whenever I make a CB Slaking team, they always end up defensive. Focus Punch is great to nail Skarmory and Forretress, but Fury Swipes is useful to break Substitute.

Metal Sound Zapdos :d I have used Metal Sound Magneton to great success, and can only imagine Zapdos pulling it off much better. Most Zapdos are specially defensive, so this would be a nice take of this Pokemon.

I almost lost to this thing - it can be quite scary once it gets going. Not sure what the EVs were. With Snorlax and especially Tyranitar being so prevalent in this metagame, it should not be hard for Machamp to find an opportunity to start bulking up.

Dragonite has been overshadowed by Salamence, but it does have some perks, such as being pretty sturdy on the specially defensive side - iirc with those defensive EVs, it has no problems surviving non-STAB Ice Beams. Enough Speed to outrun CB Dugtrio after a DD. Thunder does hefty damage to Milotic (38~45%) and Suicune (39~47%) and obviously Skarmory and Gyarados. Double-Edge, however is better against Swampert and Zapdos. A double-dragon may not be a bad concept here.

Electabuzz has that nifty Speed and great coverage to be a surprisingly viable mon, imo. Ice Punch is nice to nail Salamence and Celebi, while Cross Chop punishes Magneton, Blissey, Snorlax, and Tyranitar. Not many Pokemon enjoys taking STAB Thunder from this thing. Substitute is to ease prediction and to prevent revenge-killing from Dugtrio. Bulky mons like ZAPDOS, Swampert (without HP Grass), Celebi, and Snorlax are still hard to take down with Electabuzz's offense, but with some offensive partners and lures Electabuzz can pull some mid- late-game sweep.

Floppy's nomination

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Toxic and Thunder Wave immunity, pretty nifty STAB combo #Poison actually gels well with Ground#, spreads status #albeit an inferior one# with both Poison Point and Sludge Bomb, and access to Megahorn. Beats most Zapdos, checks most Raikou, but in general just gets free switches and hits things hard. On paper this looks totally unsuited for OU since Psychic, Surf, Ice Beam and EQ weaknesses rolled into one is absolutely awful, but I've been playing with this and its been pulling its weight just fine. It will need support dealing with Skarm and Pert though.

Use in conjunction with Celebi or Heracross #or even both). If Duggy comes in to revenge, set up to +6 and revenge it back. Also a good SkarmBliss counter, and its not totally useless when theres no Duggy to trap.

my nominations

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An interesting offensively oriented Zapdos designed to lure in Celebi and damage it with Drill Peck. With Spikes support, this set could really be interesting and fun to use due to its wallbreaking prowess. The EVs are simple - max attack with a boosting nature and enough Speed to get the jump on the admittedly rarer Jolly Heracross. The rest is just dumped into Special Attack. There are some other (bulkier) spreads I have in mind, the spread is very flexible.

In contrast with the last set, an offensive take on a defensive Pokemon, this is a defensive take on an offensive poke. Like GSC Raikou, this set's focus is special walling. It's one of the best Gengar counters there is, due to no longer fearing Hypnosis, and also unlike RestTalk Zapdos, not being weak to Ice Punch. It makes a top-notch switchin to Bulky Waters as well, and with Roar it's also the game's best counter to all forms of Suicune, and a decent one to CM Jirachi. It's also a great Zapdos check. However, Dugtrio really does make this dog's day a misery, in that a Hidden Power from this EV spread is unable to KO it.

Umby's nomination

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Works well if you can remove Celebi and perhaps Gengar. Leech Seed and Spore are incredibly difficult to play around, and Focus Punch hits anything that isn't immune pretty hard. Spikes are useful because it forces tons of switches.

Somewhat like Subcune in that it can set up on Blissey and beat it 1 on 1. However, instead of being able to set up on bulky waters, Entei is more suited to taking advantage of things like Celebi and Jirachi. Unlike Raikou, Entei can actually hit and OHKO Dugtrio with STABed Fire Blast, so it can't come in while you Sub and survive your attack to KO you. Probably would benefit from Wish support so it can keep coming in on Celebi and whatnot. Not the best Pokemon by any means but it certainly seems like it'd be fun and challenging to build a team around, plus it looks really cool.

Encore Zam is one of the most annoying pokémon to face. It can easily switch in on moves like Substitute, Recover, Wish, Heal bell, Swords dance etc. use Encore en start setting up Calm Minds. Imo its one of the best special sweepers in the game.

Chaosbreon! It's a pretty mean strategy; Mean Look, Taunt, and Baton Pass to a counter - rinse and repeat. It also doubles up as a Wish passer ;d This Umbreon is usually paired with Perish Song Celebi.

All vets use CB King, lol. It's pretty hard to make a team around this mon, so it will be a good challenge, imo. Whenever I make a CB Slaking team, they always end up defensive. Focus Punch is great to nail Skarmory and Forretress, but Fury Swipes is useful to break Substitute.

Metal Sound Zapdos :d I have used Metal Sound Magneton to great success, and can only imagine Zapdos pulling it off much better. Most Zapdos are specially defensive, so this would be a nice take of this Pokemon.

I almost lost to this thing - it can be quite scary once it gets going. Not sure what the EVs were. With Snorlax and especially Tyranitar being so prevalent in this metagame, it should not be hard for Machamp to find an opportunity to start bulking up.

Dragonite has been overshadowed by Salamence, but it does have some perks, such as being pretty sturdy on the specially defensive side - iirc with those defensive EVs, it has no problems surviving non-STAB Ice Beams. Enough Speed to outrun CB Dugtrio after a DD. Thunder does hefty damage to Milotic (38~45%) and Suicune (39~47%) and obviously Skarmory and Gyarados. Double-Edge, however is better against Swampert and Zapdos. A double-dragon may not be a bad concept here.

Electabuzz has that nifty Speed and great coverage to be a surprisingly viable mon, imo. Ice Punch is nice to nail Salamence and Celebi, while Cross Chop punishes Magneton, Blissey, Snorlax, and Tyranitar. Not many Pokemon enjoys taking STAB Thunder from this thing. Substitute is to ease prediction and to prevent revenge-killing from Dugtrio. Bulky mons like ZAPDOS, Swampert (without HP Grass), Celebi, and Snorlax are still hard to take down with Electabuzz's offense, but with some offensive partners and lures Electabuzz can pull some mid- late-game sweep.

Toxic and Thunder Wave immunity, pretty nifty STAB combo (Poison actually gels well with Ground), spreads status (albeit an inferior one) with both Poison Point and Sludge Bomb, and access to Megahorn. Beats most Zapdos, checks most Raikou, but in general just gets free switches and hits things hard. On paper this looks totally unsuited for OU since Psychic, Surf, Ice Beam and EQ weaknesses rolled into one is absolutely awful, but I've been playing with this and its been pulling its weight just fine. It will need support dealing with Skarm and Pert though.

Use in conjunction with Celebi or Heracross (or even both). If Duggy comes in to revenge, set up to +6 and revenge it back. Also a good SkarmBliss counter, and its not totally useless when theres no Duggy to trap.

An interesting offensively oriented Zapdos designed to lure in Celebi and damage it with Drill Peck. With Spikes support, this set could really be interesting and fun to use due to its wallbreaking prowess. The EVs are simple - max attack with a boosting nature and enough Speed to get the jump on the admittedly rarer Jolly Heracross. The rest is just dumped into Special Attack. There are some other (bulkier) spreads I have in mind, the spread is very flexible.

In contrast with the last set, an offensive take on a defensive Pokemon, this is a defensive take on an offensive poke. Like GSC Raikou, this set's focus is special walling. It's one of the best Gengar counters there is, due to no longer fearing Hypnosis, and also unlike RestTalk Zapdos, not being weak to Ice Punch. It makes a top-notch switchin to Bulky Waters as well, and with Roar it's also the game's best counter to all forms of Suicune, and a decent one to CM Jirachi. It's also a great Zapdos check. However, Dugtrio really does make this dog's day a misery, in that a Hidden Power from this EV spread is unable to KO it.

You have 24 hours before nominations close and the voting process begins. Now is your chance to post that surprisingly good set you made. Now is the time for you to raise our awareness of an underrated Pokemon with a niche in the ADV OU metagame. Now is the time to nominate a set that you feel that it would be really fun for the community to build a team around. Guys, get nominating and enjoy yourselves!

Works well if you can remove Celebi and perhaps Gengar. Leech Seed and Spore are incredibly difficult to play around, and Focus Punch hits anything that isn't immune pretty hard. Spikes are useful because it forces tons of switches.

Somewhat like Subcune in that it can set up on Blissey and beat it 1 on 1. However, instead of being able to set up on bulky waters, Entei is more suited to taking advantage of things like Celebi and Jirachi. Unlike Raikou, Entei can actually hit and OHKO Dugtrio with STABed Fire Blast, so it can't come in while you Sub and survive your attack to KO you. Probably would benefit from Wish support so it can keep coming in on Celebi and whatnot. Not the best Pokemon by any means but it certainly seems like it'd be fun and challenging to build a team around, plus it looks really cool.

Encore Zam is one of the most annoying pokémon to face. It can easily switch in on moves like Substitute, Recover, Wish, Heal bell, Swords dance etc. use Encore en start setting up Calm Minds. Imo its one of the best special sweepers in the game.

Gentlemen, the voting process is now upon us. The rules are simple. One man, one vote. In theory you can vote for your own nominated sets, although that's just narcissistic. It's democracy with Leftovers. The sets eligible to be voted on are the following:

Make sure you post your vote in bold. The exact sets are listed in Post 2, except for Kevin Garrett's two nominations, but we'll presume that theose sets are as they are in their respective on-site analysis. The process lasts 48 hours - after 48 hours I will count the votes up and we will have our first "Forgotten Wonder".