For the last three tourneys, most people are getting mini overviews that 'SAY' that anyone eligible for Home Guard is a Freshmen. Minis are showing the same thing this time.

While it is possible RSI will raise the line for actual Freshmen, so far the minis are not dependable.

This guy is WAY above what the Freshmen line has been

Street_LegalArchMaster Poster

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Posted:
Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:02 pm

Not that I've been in a tourney for years I have a side question about Hombre's guy. He shows 157 total skills, 31 of which are from the 15 stat trains. Does that still equal out to a 187 (forget the abbreviation used- DI?) or just the 157? If you say have 1 stat train and it's to DF 11, which gives 6 skills, does it count as 6 skills or 6+2 for the stat train? To better quantify my question does his guy have 31 skills from stat trains or 31+30 (15*2) for stat trains?

In case I decide to enter some ADM warriors from my recent, and semi-recent, graduates I'd be interested in knowing.

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Posted:
Tue Jan 08, 2013 9:47 pm

I have always felt the skills plus stat raises time 2 has been suspect since I returned in 2005. In the past year or two it has become totally useless for predicting the Freshman line, because stat raises has been removed from the
equation.

Not that I've been in a tourney for years I have a side question about Hombre's guy. He shows 157 total skills, 31 of which are from the 15 stat trains. Does that still equal out to a 187 (forget the abbreviation used- DI?) or just the 157? If you say have 1 stat train and it's to DF 11, which gives 6 skills, does it count as 6 skills or 6+2 for the stat train? To better quantify my question does his guy have 31 skills from stat trains or 31+30 (15*2) for stat trains?

In case I decide to enter some ADM warriors from my recent, and semi-recent, graduates I'd be interested in knowing.

DI is not an official stat, so there is no rule on how to compute it. That said, the number most people used is Total skills + 2 * trains. It does not differentiate between base, learned, bonus or trained skills. In this case Total skills = 157, 2x trains = 30, 157+30 = 187.

It it a general consensus that DI is less reliable than total skills for determining tourney classification.

If he IS adm, which I also expect, why are the mini's still being sent out this way? Especially after so many people got mad after the last tourney. (The question is rhetorical at this point...) Has anyone been refunded after their warriors fought ADM when they were listed as Frosh?

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Posted:
Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:28 pm

Otto_X wrote:

Street_Legal wrote:

Not that I've been in a tourney for years I have a side question about Hombre's guy. He shows 157 total skills, 31 of which are from the 15 stat trains. Does that still equal out to a 187 (forget the abbreviation used- DI?) or just the 157? If you say have 1 stat train and it's to DF 11, which gives 6 skills, does it count as 6 skills or 6+2 for the stat train? To better quantify my question does his guy have 31 skills from stat trains or 31+30 (15*2) for stat trains?

In case I decide to enter some ADM warriors from my recent, and semi-recent, graduates I'd be interested in knowing.

DI is not an official stat, so there is no rule on how to compute it. That said, the number most people used is Total skills + 2 * trains. It does not differentiate between base, learned, bonus or trained skills. In this case Total skills = 157, 2x trains = 30, 157+30 = 187.

It it a general consensus that DI is less reliable than total skills for determining tourney classification.

That's what I figured on both counts. I know DI is very "iffy" but combining the 2 will sometimes help determine if a guy should be run another fight before it crosses the line or not; giving more weight to total skills of course.

Thanks for the clarification!

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