With friends like India, who needs enemies! Americans will see this as a hand given in friendship returned with a punch to the nose. Thanks India.

8:01 pm September 20, 2010

ruthpul wrote:

The question now is this, "How can we trust anything the Indians offer or agree to now?" President Obama should cancel his trip!

9:39 pm September 20, 2010

Padmakumar Rao wrote:

@ruthpul
Isnt't it already a gesture of "friendship" to let go scot free the perpetrator in the Bhopal case, who happens to be a US citizen?

9:57 pm September 20, 2010

Sadasivan wrote:

The US demand shows a lack of confidence of the vendors in their equipment and technology and a certain meanness,as Humanitarian considerations are concerned.How can India trust the USA after the 1984 Bhopal gas Tragedy,which is also suspected to be cruel depopulation ploy?
It is noteworthy that the USA has a very huge problem with its Nuclear Waste Disposal,which shows that its technology is not good,and that it has MORE Coal Fired Power Plants than Nuclear ones.This shows,the USA has some reluctance and reservations with regard to the use Nuclear Power.

9:59 pm September 20, 2010

Sadasivan wrote:

Correction:
1.Please read "as far as Humanitarian...."
2.with regard to the use "of" Nuclear Power.
Another point is the Gulf Of Mexico Oil Spill.The Indian Bill will ensure that the US Cos WILL NOT compromise on safety aspects as BP seems to have done.

10:12 pm September 20, 2010

ruthpul wrote:

I should have known that the "ghost of Bhopal" and the conspiracy theories attached to it (i.e. cruel depopulation ploy) would be used as an excuse for India's continued protectionist economic policies. How long will this tragic event be used by India as an excuse to not follow international economic norms for free markets. India wants to have its cake and eat it too. It wants access the the global market place without giving in return. Enough with the excuses!

3:14 am September 21, 2010

Satish Chandra wrote:

I am India's expert in strategic defence and the father of India's strategic program, including the Integrated Guided Missile Development Program. I stated the objections to the nuclear deal in my blog titled 'Nuclear Supremacy For India Over U.S.' which can be found by a Yahoo search with the title, going to profile page and clicking on blog title, as follows:-
1) The first and a fundamental objection is spending untold billions of dollars on imported reactors instead of ploughing the money into India's own nuclear power program more advanced and more capable (thanks to its nuclear "isolation" and apartheid) than that of the United States in important ways. It can be expanded 10 or 20-fold so India becomes one of the world's biggest EXPORTERS, not an IMPORTER, of the world's best and most economical reactors with the shortest time for installation (all this is true of Indian reactors even at this moment). There is significant demand for Indian reactors from other countries. This by itself is enough reason to summarily and totally reject the nuclear deal. Indians, such as the head of the Nuclear Power Corporation of India, S. K. Jain, say they will not export them unless they receive permission from the white master. In an act of treason, the National Security Adviser M. K. Nayanan has said that importing uranium from non-NSG countries -- the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG) is a cartel like OPEC -- will be against “international law”. Similarly, in another act of treason, External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee during his recent visit to Egypt said that India cannot engage in nuclear trade with other countries because it is not a signatory to the Non-Proliferation Treaty. These statements have gone unchallenged in India’s media controlled by CIA-RAW. India can extract an unlimited amount of uranium from sea water for which the Japanese demonstrated the technology and economic viability decades ago and for which India’s Department of Atomic Energy has developed indigenous technology but the United States has been suppressing this option because it will subvert its attempts to bring and keep countries like India in slavery and Indian politicians and scientists, bought up by the United States, are keeping quiet about it.

2) The second objection is that the imported reactors will be light water reactors. These will not only make India dependent in perpetuity on imported fuel and vulnerable to all kinds of pressures but, even if an unlimited amount of fuel was somehow magically guaranteed, it will fatally injure both India's 3-stage nuclear power program and its nuclear weapons program. This is so even if there was not an upper limit of 20% enrichment while reprocessing the waste fuel from the imported reactors. Light water reactors are inherently "proliferation-resistant" (that is, it is difficult to get bomb-grade material from them), though not "proliferation-proof". In any case, the 20% cap on enrichment (weapons and certain types of reactors require around 95% enrichment) cripples India's strategic (nuclear weapons) program-- because parity with or supremacy over the United States requires at least ten thousand nuclear warheads-- and ensures permanent slavery to the white man and permanent serfdom to India.
When the Russians offered the two light water reactors, now under construction in India at Kalpakkam, the Department of Atomic Energy had strongly opposed it correctly saying that it will only benefit the Russian nuclear industry and light water reactors will break India's control over the nuclear fuel cycle and subvert India's 3-stage nuclear power program as well as its nuclear weapons program. But Vajpayee shoved it down India's throat on the instructions of the C.I.A. which calculated that there will be less resistance to such a disadvantageous deal with the Russians and once a couple of light water reactors have been brought in, it will set the stage for a full-scale American assault to subjugate and disembowel India's nuclear program. A bought up Kakodkar is now lying and saying that importing Russian reactors was always in the plans. Press reports at the time of Manmohan Singh’s visit to Washington in July, 2004, during which he signed the joint statement of July 18, 2004 with Bush about the nuclear deal, etc., had said Kakodkar had strenuously objected to the deal but was silenced by the traitor ambassador of India in Washington by saying the Prime Minister had to have a “successful” visit. After he was bribed, Bush asked Kakodkar, during his visit to New Delhi in March, 2006 if he was happy now.
3) Then there are the various requirements in the July 18 '05 joint statement such as separation of civilian and military reactors, IAEA inspections on the civilian reactors including all imported ones, the necessity to get Nuclear Suppliers Group approvals, etc. which cripple India's nuclear program as a whole and bind it hand and foot to the United States.
4) Then there is the blizzard of demands and restrictions in the Hyde Act and previous U.S. legislation including the prohibition of testing (the latest 'concession' by the U.S. on testing simply says that, rather than a test resulting in automatic return of all imported U.S. equipment, the U.S. president may ALLOW India to conduct a test at his pleasure if India begs and convinces the White Master) that make India a total slave to the United States which, even under the documents, will be able to do any damn thing it wants to India in all its internal and external affairs-- a serfdom that is comprehensive and complete.
5) Then there is the United States' propensity and certainty of doing things to India-- once it has India dependent on U.S. reactors, fuel, permissions, etc.-- to arm-twist, blackmail and invade if the lesser breeds don't do everything it wants them to do-- the kind of things it has done and is doing to Iraq and will certainly do to India, including its complete nuclear disarmament, participation in U.S.-led military campaigns against other countries, the total colonisation of its economy and manpower to serve American needs, etc.
Indians on the C.I.A.'s payroll have been pushing this deal which should have been and was instantly and totally rejected, not just by me. The BJP/Vajpayee came out with a written statement rejecting the deal within a couple days of the joint statement of July 18 '05 (before the Hyde Act, the 123 agreement, etc.) but they have been yielding to the transgressions of Manmohan Singh progressively and now Advani says everything is fine so long as India can conduct nuclear tests in a Pokhran III! This is extremely stupid, to take the most charitable view of him. [Since I wrote the above, it has become clear that the BJP's Jaswant Singh had made the deal with the U.S. in his numerous meetings with U.S. State Department official Talbott and subsequently, because of which he later congratulated Foreign Secretay Menon for having done a "superb job" of negotiating the 123 agreement and still later said there will be no major changes in the nuclear deal if the BJP returns to power. The BJP's show of opposition was to throw dust in the eyes of the people; see my blog for how, after British rule, India has been under C.I.A. rule].

Getting India's nuclear facilities under IAEA safeguards, whether or not India imports American reactors, has been a prime American goal because at least 75% of the damage to India's nuclear program would have been done once the facilities are placed under IAEA inspections, even if nothing further is done and no nuclear deal with the United States is finally signed and no foreign reactors, from the United States or from Russia or France, are bought. Any move to put Indian nuclear facilities under IAEA safeguards, beyond the ones under IAEA inspections at present, is a grave injury to the nation and an invasion of India like the American invasion of Iraq and deserves a response appropriate to an invasion. If the nuclear deal with the United States is abandoned but IAEA inspections are brought in on the pretext that they are needed to import reactors and fuel from Russia -- one prong of the American strategy and the Americans’ Indian collaborators has been to get the IAEA inspections in place without completing the nuclear deal with the United States and buy Russian reactors instead of American ones, to begin with -- the import of Russian reactors instead of pumping the money into the indigenous nuclear program will be an additional injury. I have said India's nuclear program should be designed and operated so that electricity is a byproduct of producing material for making weapons rather than material for making weapons being a byproduct of producing electricity. Manmohan Singh is still starving the Indian nuclear program of funds and still blocking the option of getting uranium from non-NSG countries, if necessary, though simply exploiting the uranium reserves in the country already known -- at present only 300 tons per year is mined though the known reserves are over 78,000 tons not counting the extremely rich deposits recently found in Ladakh -- is quite enough for India's needs. It is a lie to say that India's nuclear power production cannot be expanded beyond 10,000 MW on domestic uranium, though the production of electricity must be a byproduct of producing material for making weapons. A country that has ten thousand nuclear warheads and the means to deliver them to the continental United States cannot be restricted from importing, without IAEA inspections, etc., however much uranium it wants from wherever it wants by the United States or any other power; the power of nuclear weapons is what India needs; electricity can be produced in numerous other ways for the time being. Agreeing to even talks on new inspections with the IAEA -- an instrument of American imperialism -- are acts of treason and deserve punishment as severe as for the rest of the nuclear deal.
Nuclear sup

3:15 am September 21, 2010

Satish Chandra wrote:

(Continued)
Nuclear supremacy over the United States has to be India’s national objective and its one point agenda (see my articles ‘What is nuclear supremacy?’ and 'Why nuclear supremacy?' in my blog). The nuclear deal is totally incompatible with nuclear supremacy over the United States and deserves to be summarily rejected without going into any details. This is the most fundamental objection of all.
I have repeatedly said there will be no nuclear deal and described in my blog steps I have already taken to enforce this by the nuclear destruction of New Delhi and then the coast-to-coast destruction of the United States by India with 5,000 nuclear warheads and extermination of its population.

6:12 am September 21, 2010

Sadasivan wrote:

@ruthpul
First of all "free market",has nothing to do with the subject under consideration,whatever its merits or demerits be.I am no admirer of the so called "free markets".But as I said this not relevant to the topic.
A nuclear disaster will be much more dangerous as the accident site will not be hospitable for centuries to come,apart from the colossal damage it will cause to Humans,animals and the environment.Even DU is causing so much problems.

9:29 am September 21, 2010

user 9999 wrote:

@ satish ...dude i think totally agree with you ...there is no need to create law according to the US companies....Unless we are slaves to them. Look at the new bill passed by congress "BUY ONLY MADE IN AMERICA " . This is totally ridiculous !!

10:57 am September 21, 2010

Dinesh wrote:

@satish .......well done!! make castles in air. But dont forget to get enough sleep!!

11:01 am September 21, 2010

Dinesh wrote:

I think USA is still shakled by its imaginary ethical standards, which are not good for business. Are these standards are realy useful, even lesser and lesser people care for them as the days go by?

3:06 am September 22, 2010

Praveen Kumar wrote:

ruthpul: if Obama cancels India trip US wont even get goodwill.

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