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Definition(s) of 'allegation'.
(law) a formal accusation against somebody (often in a court of law); "an allegation of malpractice" statements affirming or denying certain matters of fact that you are prepared to prove wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
An allegation (also called adduction) is a claim of a fact by a party in a pleading, which the party claims to be able to prove. ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegation
An assertion, especially an accusation, not necessarily based on facts; The act of alleging en.wiktionary.org/wiki/allegation
A statement of the issues in a written document (a pleading) which a person is prepared to prove in court. www.id.uscourts.gov/terms-ab.htm
the assertion, declaration, or statement of a party to an action, made in a pleading, setting out what the party expects to prove www.accidentattorneys.com/glossary.cfm
allegations - The claims or charges against the other person which are made in a lawsuit. www.para-legals.com/Glossary.html
something that someone says happened. www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/kidspage/glossary.html
Now, where have I done any of these things?
Can you understand the difference between an allegation and an observation? It is a fact, I repeat, a fact, that what happened would have been a good way to set up an assassination. That last statement is an observation, not an allegation. Furthermore, in case it isn't clear, to anyone so divorced for the common usage of the English language as to suggest that such an observation constitutes an allegation, such a set up would not require the connivance of any of the officers participating in the actual operation on site. This last point is exactly why it would be such an effective way to murder somebody.
I should point out, for those who may be hard of understanding, none of the foregoing is an allegation that such a thing happened.
Nevertheless, in common with the coroner, I think it right to query why a police operation was mounted in such a fashion that it almost guaranteed the man's death.

Care to point out where this allegation is made?
You should at least allow me my previous history, and acknowledge that if I wanted to allege such a thing I would have left no room for doubt what I was saying. Much as you are making yourself abundantly clear in you allegation.

Firstly, I don't believe I have ever said that I could have done it better. Just that I believe it could have been done better. FWIW, the coroner didn't seem to impressed either, and he had access to the full information.
The rest of your post seems to suggest that in matter police, we should adopt the attitude "Don't fret dear. Mummy knows best."Shootist2009-10-03 14:23:31

Were you were a Tac Adviser' date=' a Bronze, Silver or Gold commander when you were in the job? [/quote']
No but he knew a man who was
No, I wasn't.
Neither can I play the piano, but I can tell when a pianist hit's a bum note.
Just how much training do you need before you are capable of working out that a man in very genuine fear of his life, who has felt the need to carry a firearm because of that risk, and who sees a couple of cars coming towards him in a deserted area, one with it's lights out, might just think that the cars contain the latest attempt.
Come on, tell me what golden insights, possessed by Tac advisers, or whatever, will allow that such a reaction from him as being of low risk? I mean, did they know he was really a Vogon mind reader? Or perhaps they thought he was also in possession of a policeometer, but the battery was flat. Some things just ain't rocket science.

I do see the careful planning here. Previous, obviously accurate, intelligence about him and his firearm, plus his location. OK so far.
A planned operation to take a firearm off the street and if the target is arrested, then that's a bonus. Well, that's management b****cks. did they think the gun might walk out of the restaurant on it's own to see if the coast was clear?
OK then, a couple of cars with firearms teams on board. Better make them unmarked. Police uniforms might stand out in unmarked cars, so better put them in plain clothes. OK, ready to rock.
Now for the approach. Remember, this is a man has had two (at least) previous and recent attempts upon his life, in which firearms were used, and his assailants were still at large. So, what we'll do is drive up to him slowly, when he's alone, out back of a restaurant. One of the cars had better keep it's lights off, or it might alarm him.
The risk to Mr Nicholas was minimal, after all. It said so in the risk assement, so it must be true.
Then it all goes wrong. He panicks, thinking there are two car loads of assassins about to try a third attempt. Now how stupid is that? Ignoring, for the moment, the police aversion to anyone defending themselves, if you have a gun, which you might have though could even have been a good idea (there is actually a case that someone under threat in northern Ireland was found NG of possessing a firearm unlawfully, IIRC) you might just think that these circumstances are a good time to waft it about a bit, until you realise that the people in the cars were police officers, which I doubt he had time to do before he died.
But, of course, anyone can trump this argument. Mr Nicholas was clearly a career criminal intent on serious crime. Probably nailed a few people himself in his time, so nobody will miss him. That's OK then.
And let's not forget, such operating styles have good precedent. Mainly in Rio de Janeiro, sadly.
OK, he might have been a scrote, and the marksmanship sounds excellent, but don't try and tell me this was a good operation.
In case you think this is yet another anti police post, I should go on record as saying I think the decision not to take any action against the police officers involved in the Jean Charles De Menezes is the correct one. I speak as I find.

Of course. Providin the wrapping isn't cresed a few times where the label was stuck on, that the adhesive hasn't further distorted the view by smearing the test, and the text is in a font so small only superman could read it with unaided vision.
There has to be an easier way. But there you go, blaming the victim again.

Just had a bit of a moody and sent this email on their website.
Dear Sir / Madam,
I know that Asda prides itself on helping the less fortunate, and the disadvantaged when it comes to employment opportunities. I do wish, however, that you had employed someone a bit brighter to design some of your labels. I recently purchased, for a change, a value product, rolled breast of lamb, and today came to cook it. How entertaining it was to find that the preparation instructions were on the back of the price label, which was affixed to the covering of the product by some apparently industrial strength adhesive previously developed for space craft or similar.
Try as I might, this label was impossible to remove without completely destroying the label, and also, therefore the instructions. As a pensioner, I have been knocking around long enough to realise that basically all I need to do is get it hot enough for long enough and I will probably survive the experience, and may even like it.
Please, try and do better.
Regards

Before we laught too loud, think on about what happened to Sharon Beshenivsky.
I still look back with a shudder on the number of times I would attended a bandit alarm at a bank, and actually run inside to see if there was a robbery in progress. Even later in my service, I couldn't get anyone to take these things seriously. I feel sure that much the same is still happening in at least some forces somewhere in the country.
Before someone makes a deteined effort to misunderstand my intentions on this post, there is no criticism in any way of Sharon Beshenivsky, but of the lack of training and procedures, not to mention the, in my experience, unwillingness of the banks themseves to takes these things seriously.