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Ginn needs to be more involved. He by himself isn't that great but he can be great in this offense. The problem isn't Steve or LaFell. Sure they dropped the ball in crucial times however we weren't moving the ball at all on several series. Seeing Ginn getting taken out and put on the sidelines is disheartening. He is what can make everyone else open.

I'm also pissed that we put so much faith in a guy like Armanti and we don't target him at all. If he sucks he sucks. But at least put your money where your mouth is and give him a chance to suck ass.

Also what about Brandon Williams, the potential stud? What do we have to lose in playing this guy? I'm sure he has a few routes down by now and throw him some passes.

How about the fact that Rivera makes Alexander inactive when he knows that Hardy can't go 100% due to illness?

your last part is another thing i questioned, even with him playing why activate Fua if you could just move hardy inside like last year on certain plays and Frank at de certainly better then giving fua any playing time whatsoever

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Besides a cb and maybe a OLB(depending on how blackburn plays) I'm all for drafting offense pure offense,enough is enough the d is where it needs to be besides cb play, would not be mad if the draft started off OT,WR,OG or WR,OT,WR

Yup, offense, offense, and more offense. We'll have to draft two receivers. Throw in a TE too.

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Ginn needs to be more involved. He by himself isn't that great but he can be great in this offense. The problem isn't Steve or LaFell. Sure they dropped the ball in crucial times however we weren't moving the ball at all on several series. Seeing Ginn getting taken out and put on the sidelines is disheartening. He is what can make everyone else open.

I'm also pissed that we put so much faith in a guy like Armanti and we don't target him at all. If he sucks he sucks. But at least put your money where your mouth is and give him a chance to suck ass.

Also what about Brandon Williams, the potential stud? What do we have to lose in playing this guy? I'm sure he has a few routes down by now and throw him some passes.

How about the fact that Rivera makes Alexander inactive when he knows that Hardy can't go 100% due to illness?

Yes, all of these things. The only thing I sort of refute is that Smitty and LaFell aren't a problem. Smitty shouldn't be a problem because we should've built a WR corps around him, but we didn't. He's simply no longer a #1 WR. LaFell is a problem at #2. I defended him and held out hope, but the writing is on the wall at this time. He should be a 4th or 5th WR.

All the other stuff, dead on the money.

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Yes, all of these things. The only thing I sort of refute is that Smitty and LaFell aren't a problem. Smitty shouldn't be a problem because we should've built a WR corps around him, but we didn't. He's simply no longer a #1 WR. LaFell is a problem at #2. I defended him and held out hope, but the writing is on the wall at this time. He should be a 4th or 5th WR.

All the other stuff, dead on the money.

I still disagree about Smith. I believe he can still play at a high level. He had 60yds which isn't being shut down at all. If he has that TD pass and refs don't cheat him out of that 15 yd catch that's an 80 yd game.

People just like to panic and say he's not good anymore because Peterson is the young stud who made a nice pick on an under thrown ball. Old Steve wouldn't have done anything different on that play.

I'm not saying LaFell is a #2 WR but the teams know what they have in him. We can all speculate how good he is on the forum but the Panthers know who the hell LaFell is. They don't have the excuse that he isn't a good enough #2 because they put him there. And if he's not we don't seem to be doing anything about it. We aren't getting other guys involved. Hell fuggin Barner didn't even get a carry yesterday.

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I'm not saying Smith is no longer good, I'm simply saying he's no longer a guy who can single handedly carry the weight for the entire WR corps. That's the role he's played nearly his entire career and he's just not up to it anymore. He's even said so himself the last few years.

We haven't had a legit #2 WR in YEARS. We haven't done poo about it.

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smith is fine just like cam will be it's one bad game there human it will happen once in a while, dwill had one at the beginning of the season although not a bad game, along with luke against buffalo, no not a bad game by him but a crucial bad play.

the other guys like lafell,bell,fua,armond smith have consistently week in and out play bad but still get PT these are the guys who should be getting demoted

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I still disagree about Smith. I believe he can still play at a high level. He had 60yds which isn't being shut down at all. If he has that TD pass and refs don't cheat him out of that 15 yd catch that's an 80 yd game.

People just like to panic and say he's not good anymore because Peterson is the young stud who made a nice pick on an under thrown ball. Old Steve wouldn't have done anything different on that play.

I'm not saying LaFell is a #2 WR but the teams know what they have in him. We can all speculate how good he is on the forum but the Panthers know who the hell LaFell is. They don't have the excuse that he isn't a good enough #2 because they put him there. And if he's not we don't seem to be doing anything about it. We aren't getting other guys involved. Hell fuggin Barner didn't even get a carry yesterday.

He only needs to average like 63 yards a game for a 1k season, which is pretty darn good for a 34 yr old.

Ginn and LaFell are both ok receivers, not superstars but both bring something to the table. I say offer them both around the same as Jacoby Jones got 2yr 6.5 mil whichever takes the offer first gets to stay. Or have them fight in the thunderdome for a contract...

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smith is fine just like cam will be it's one bad game there human it will happen once in a while, dwill had one at the beginning of the season although not a bad game, along with luke against buffalo, no not a bad game by him but a crucial bad play.

the other guys like lafell,bell,fua,armond smith have consistently week in and out play bad but still get PT these are the guys who should be getting demoted

Smith struggles against top CBs....bc he is no longer a #1.

The issue isn't Smith's game....bc he is old. He is suppose to be losing multiple steps. Issue is we never replaced him (his role) and his is still a #1.

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The issue isn't Smith's game....bc he is old. He is suppose to be losing multiple steps. Issue is we never replaced him (his role) and his is still a #1.

i disagree he's still a number one just not an elite one, he still gets open but Cam doesn't lock on to him he's usually scanning the field or giving other receivers chances. Lafell is not the anwser at the 2 spot we need to draft a guy to eventually take smith spot this upcoming draft