The Hall of Fame would be missing out on a golden opportunity to have one of the best induction classes in recent memory. A class of Biggio, Maddux, Glavine, and Thomas would be one talked about for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Horsemaster Fred

This is the major leagues so get it how you live and letís fight tomorrow.

Frank is an elite hall of famer. It would be ridiculous if he doesn't get in first ballot. However, it wouldn't surprise me since the Hall Of Fame is ridiculous. Santo is in, and Thomas would miss the first year. Crazy stuff.

I hope Frank gets more votes than Glavine because Glavine was very critical of Frank's public stance against PEDs when Glavine was Player's Assoc. President.

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Bagwell over Frank is just trolling. I always thought of Mussina as very good, but not dominant. He seems like Hall of Very Good.

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Originally Posted by shoota

I'm not counting this homerun or his 3 RBI from today's game because of the game situation. I'm not counting his pinch hit solo homerun in a blowout win in Colorado. In my book, Crede has 2 less home runs than his statistics show, 4 less RBI, and one less walk (the one where he pinch hit for Uribe after coming in with a 3-0 count and taking one pitch).

If Mussina played his whole career in Baltimore, would he get any attention for the Hall? I would be willing to bet not.

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Originally Posted by TaylorStSox

Bagwell over Frank is just trolling. I always thought of Mussina as very good, but not dominant. He seems like Hall of Very Good.

1) Check the numbers. Mussina and Glavine are near-identical.

2) I personally wouldn't put Bagwell over Frank, but it's a lot closer than you think. Bagwell was a very good baserunner and fielder. Retired earlier than Frank so his counting stats don't quite match up, though.

It's hard to believe that both Bonds and Clemens are getting in this year.

They're not, I was wrong in posting that link; it appears to be a fictional ballot of people associated with that website. The NBC Sports link above shows the most updated results (as of yesterday, Bonds and Clemens are nowhere close).