Im glad you are so open. Being Christian I'm sure you reconcile its teaching with yourself and understand the struggle some face. Though I'm not calling anyone to embrace bigotry. I'm not sure how you deduce that. In fact, I'm trying to get other people to see the opposite side. Sometimes I feel like we attack our family so hard, we are bigots ourselves.

I see. That sucks. My family and I arrived at a truce as well. I continue to live my life out to everyone but don't share my personal life to my mother. She does not want to talk about it. But I would talk to her about everything else.

It works. Not ideal but it works for now. I hope I'm doing the right thing for all of us. Unconditional love for my mother is a tough thing to give. I don't know if I have it in me for long.

Listen to yourself. This is what we fighting against you sound like a bigot when I suggest that gay is a thing. I'm not asking you to shut up and accept the other side. I merely asking you to "understand" the other side but you already said there isn't an alternative point of view. Not everyone who can't understand you is out to oppress you either.

Now to your question.

I think my point is that while you view your family as the oppressor, it is not the case in the original comment. They merely voted for Trump, and didn't oppress OP directly other than expressing their rights by voting.

We should fight for our rights and against the oppressor. And sure, if you are upset, express it. But before you attack someone, pick the right target. Your parents who voted from trump isn't your enemy. Trump is, the decision makers who hurt you are. Spare your parents.

Your example is boiled down to "my family member believe in something to appalling to my core" and ask "what would I do". Your answer is "cut them off" or will them to submit to you.

Let me ask you to see it from their side. I come out as transgender. This is against my family believes. According to logic above, they should abandon me. That was just and right. Because I would have done the same thing to them.

This is what hurts.

We ask our parents to accept us as we are (gay/queer/Lgbt, etc), and yet we adamantly refused to accept them as they are (christians/conservatives/whatever).

And that their affiliation, believes, and identities do not define them as inherently bad. We want to change them as badly as they want to change you. Now it means war. Either I consume you or you consume me.

Do you see an end? A good outcome?

It is not about "shut up and take it". Continue to have a conversation. Continue fight for your rights. But do so with compassion and kindness. Know that sometimes they mean well and ya hard for them to change. If you can change them, do so kindly. If they refuse, back off respectfully. Defend when they hurt you.

If you seek diversity in the world, and ask that others accept you as you are, you must accept others as they are. Not everyone will accept you or be like you, learn to embrace the difference.

TLDR: I'm sorry about your situation. Even though your family voted for Trump, it comes from the goodness of their hearts, and they are good people. I hope you find trust in them again. Please reach out.

Sorry I ranted.

I'm sorry about your situation. I can't imagine how hard it must be. I can't also imagine the immense fear about the future you are experiencing. Trump presidency gives more than "shock", it instill terror and there isn't anywhere to run. I get that feeling.

From reading your comments, it's seems like your family voting for Trump has deeply violate your trust and respect for them.

This might be strange but I assure you they voted for Trump from the goodness of their heart. They meant well for the world and believed that Trump can bring good, despite how misguided you think they are. You maybe right. But that's not relevant. They are good people even though their choices seems evil.

They didn't know your situation but if they did, their vote for Trump still doesn't mean they hate you. What matters most is that they still love you. President comes and goes, but your family support lasts way beyond that.

I hope you find trust in your family again and reach out to them. Trust me. They are good people. So are you. Their vote aren't their identities.

PS my story, if you care to read

I have come out to my mother, and watching her struggle was very sad for me. She's deeply catholic and she wish that I don't go to hell. She prays for me and wonder if she's a bad person and god is punishing her, and me. If I was angry at her, I would have been mad that she said I was any less and that I'm going to hell. But I have uprooted all that she knows were good and right and all she wants for me is that I'm right with god.

So if you look past the rhetoric, we disagree on our values of live, but we love each other. We may never learn to accept each other (that would require one of us to give up our values and even life choices) but we are still family. I wish you can see that this bond is above opinions, personal views, politics, and whoever is running the government.

I agree with you. The question isnt whether what they do is legal or meet some standard. The question is whether what YOU do is meeting these standards. Im no expert, but doubt it that the law forgives if you break it just because an adversary does as well.

Though. Down the thread, it seems we can record, then transcribe. It might be illegal to record witbout consent but you are not in trouble until you reveal such fact and someone takes action against you.

So record anyway, dont tell. Get a lawyer when you need the recording as evidence. Transcribe if its illegal or listen to your lawyer.

My favorite travelers. Go to Southeast Asia (it's cool now), look for "clubs", to dance and drink, which are entirely Western concept.

It's often the fear of trying the unknown that holds them back, so they do what they know and always have done. Traveling give them the opportunity to break the cycle, but they need to make choices that force them to explore the unknown.

For the poor, the current tax bracket (5 brackets) starts at 10%. Trump plans started at 12%. If you are very poor, you'll pay a little more taxes.

If you make less than 75k, then you'll pay less taxes, up to 5% saving. More than that, up to 225k you are paying the same.

If you make more than around 225k, you have the largest saving. From up to 39% old brackets to 33%.

The largest tax saving is for business. The Trump Plan will lower the business tax rate from 35 percent to 15 percent. Also offshore account will pay only 10% for repatriation (vs. the current 35%). If you are in business, it's a dream.

So, tax is reduced mostly for the higher income brackets, and business

Engineer here. I work various roles as contractor/consultant for the refineries. I do not work as an employee of the refineries. So this is an outside perspective. Your Refinery is called the "Operator" in the industry, and the automation company is called "Contractor" supporting the Operators.

I recommend you look at the compensation packages and compare. Most operators have a much better than other contractors. If I were you and if all things equal, I'll be interested in the Refinery role.

Now, if you work at the refinery, you will be exposed to many roles, and many areas of expertise, depending on the unit you are assigned to. You'll be asked to do things you have no idea what they are. However, the company would offer you a lot of resources, accessibility and best of all, Contractors.

I have worked with lots of engineers from the Refinery. They are switched roles every 2-4 years to keep things fresh. Most of their tasks, they have no deep expertise but manage to accomplish by being proactive and reach the right resources and rely on contractors. If you like learning constantly, don't mind the constant switching of roles and getting into areas you are unfamiliar with, a Refinery role is fun. But that can be stressful for some. The moment you know your stuff? Well, off you go. Interested in one project for 10 years horizon? Nah, good luck. There are also ranking systems (depending on who you know to get promotions, etc.)

Not sure the automation company is like but I bet you will focus on their specific products and expertise. Your role is to find solutions for the operators using the products available to you. Probably do the recommendation, design and installation. In other words, you'll be working for the process engineers at the refinery. So on the food chain, you'll be lower. This has significant impact in your long term career I think. You might be an expert at the topic, however, this can still take you very far.

Well. Look. Dreamers like OP will get shipped back to a country where he does not know. Tough luck right? If we can figure out where to ship these illegals we can figure out how to ship you too. No worries.

I was trying to point out this dissonance. If we require other children to prove themselves, why should our children get a free pass. If our children are free from our crime, they should be free from our fortune as well. Clean slate.

But that's not the point is it? Like you, these illegal immigrants wanted to build a future for their children. Not themselves alone.