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Ugh. As prophesied, I was able to return to work yesterday (today, as I write this, ye gods, TIME TRAVEL). Beware this flu strain that’s going around – it’s a fucking monster. But the fever is finally gone, and by the time you read this, I should be 5 by 5 again.

So there’s a new “10 commandments of Gun Control” meme going around. Annoying, really, as it (once again) appears to be written by someone with no clue about how current gun legislation works. Or what a Form 4473 is. But guns is skeery, kids, so better try to outlaw them deadly suckers afore they kills ya!

And then we have articles like this one that I don’t even what the fuck Jesus Christ are you people fucking STUPID? Chicago has STRICT gun control, and HUGE gun death tolls. Dallas, on the other hand…

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One of the victims from last weekend (which is now up to 16 btw, two more died in the hospital) had been shot TWICE before in the last month. Nearly every incident is gang related either shooter, victim or both.

Chicago and Cook County gun control laws are a total joke from a person who lived there and saw when they were enacted by moronic council members who expected the police to be there. When they left office the governors following Jim Thompson, all slashed law enforcement budgets which is why plenty of cops went on strike or just stopped their patrols in neighborhoods.

Barrington was the biggest offender since they were the first to enact gun control laws in Cook County which spread like wildfire because of the same mayor then ran for upper management and comptroller. He helped to push much of the anti-gun legislation as a way to clean up crime figuring to make guns illegal in Cook County while ironically living outside and being a gun owner himself with one of the first “safe rooms” in Illinois owned.

Even more ironic is that the majority of guns that get into Cook County and Chicago were either coming down from Wisconsin. But plenty came up from the rail out of East St. Louis way. Even now criminals use the Amtrak rail system to commit crimes in a sneaky fashion of literally getting on the train going to East St Louis or other cities (like Carbondale) do their deeds and jump back on the rail system to avoid prosecution because of how loose security is around the inner-state train system is. Unlike airports with scanners, etc. Any asshole can jump on with guns in a backpack or hidden in their luggage and simply go where they can to commit crime. Ironically state law enforcement has never really bothered to crack down on this because of inner-state commerce issues. The thing is that I’m not surprised at the least when gun crimes happen in Chicago because anyone can shoot anyone there and the laws take guns out of citizens hands. Hey, but what do I know I lived in Cook County for 18 years and also my parents lived there for 35 years.

At the same time I will point out they repealed the majority of gun laws in Chicago and pissed of the AG “Mad” Madiagan something fierce since she’s trying to get those laws stalled blocked, etc. as wel as get the eavesdropping laws reactivated because of the public catching bad and lazy cops who turn blind eye to crime or worse commit crimes themselves rather than protect and serve. Which is why the gun laws are a joke that need to be revisited and checked to be more anti-crime not anti-citizen leaning.

I’m *pretty* sure Texas and Arizona residents can legally purchase a gun here in New Mexico. (Consult the store owner first. They would know the law better than me.) But they’re not trying to bypass their own laws by doing so. And, of course, they can legally take it back to their own state.

Here’s the deal. The only way to buy a handgun legally in another state is to have the selling dealer ship it to a dealer in your state, who will typically charge you an extra fee for doing the paperwork. That’s federal law for all states. The laws for long guns are looser, depending on the two states involved. Some states allow purchases in immediately neighboring states; some states don’t care. But federal law says the dealer must apply the law of your home state before selling you the gun. Now, lawyers have to pass a bar exam in each state they want to practice in, but the BATF expects gun dealers to understand all 50 if they want to sell long guns this way. Many of them can’t be bothered to assume the liability and ship them to a dealer in your state just like a handgun.

Thank you! I rather thought this was the case. E. G. I can pop up to Cabela’s in Sidney NE from NoCO and buy a shotgun. BTDT. Just always thought that a handgun was a kink of a different color. Now I know.

Regarding the video, It sounds like that gentleman doesn’t have a particularly good understanding of the facts in the Marissa Alexander case: The whole “warning shot” narrative was largely made up by the media to try to imply that self-defense statutes are somehow racist.

That of course ignores reality; Courts have even gone so far as to rule that Florida’s stand-your-ground statute can be invoked by felons who use guns in legitimate self-defense (see: Aaron Little)

Wow. Those 10 commandments are… epic. You have apparent complete ignorance of current gun laws, you get the old guns=cars trope (with corresponding complete lack of understanding of motor vehicle laws), contradictory statements, lack of understanding of liability law, and my personal favorite right up there in #1: “oh noes big guns are scarier than little guns”.

For anybody pro-gun-control who is reading this, a bit of advice: we’ll agree to have government oversight of our guns as soon as you can and do make it absolutely certain that we will never risk having them taken from us unjustly (by our definition of unjust, not yours). Hint: this will never happen and is probably impossible.

I have to laugh at Chicago. They blame everyone else for their problems.

The idiots blame “easy access” of firearms in neighboring states to convince themselves that the laws will work, just that they need to be nation wide. What they don’t get is that those neighboring states with so called “easy access” to guns….. don’t have nearly the amount of problems that Chicago has.

Plus, Chicago PD’s chief is a grade A asshole. Like bloomburg with a uniform.

I’ve been telling them the same thing. “Oh, so Chicago has the right gun law ideas, but their crime rate is so high because everyone AROUND them has loose gun laws?
Then why is the crime rate so low in those surrounding areas? Are THEY surrounded by an even bigger area where guns are banned, again?”

Hopefully the car ride is to a medical test lab where Ms. Sparkledark will be asked to provide a urine specimen. I don’t normally cotton to the idea that your employer has the right to dictate your off the job behavior, but (1) your employer has the right to demand that you show up sober and fit for duty and (2) legally, illegal drugs + guns are really bad ju-ju, as has been noted in these comments before.

It’s a trick of having two cases that meet the criteria: If both were massively illegal, the criteria are met, but also if both are legal. Like when someone says “This unobtanium is so awesome that a cannon will have the same effect on it as a lit match”… Sounds really cool, until you realize that the same thing is true about a dry leaf. Both will destroy it utterly.

Providing firearms to known felons or providing firearms to someone in the knowledge that they will be used to commit a felony is already illegal. I have no idea what you are saying. Have you been riding the magic carpet?

Yeah, I think the old “Places with permissive gun ownership and carry laws have low crime, places with restrictive gun ownership laws or that prohibit gun ownership entirely are cesspits of crime and decay” argument doesn’t really hold water any more. Places like NYC, Boston, DC, and Chicago have improved greatly in terms of crime rate whereas second- and third-tier cities have become much worse as (1

Second- and third-tier cities have become much worse as well-paying jobs have disappeared from those places and they’ve entered the same malaise that the first-tier cities experienced in the 1950s-80s: “brain drain” to more economically-productive parts of the country, an eroding tax base meaning less money for law enforcement and rehabilitative programs, and a lack of legitimate economic opportunities for a lot of people, at least some of whom will resort to non-legitimate ways of making a living.

As to your point, however: It has been reported that there’s a lot of cooking of the books going on. Particularly in Chicago, where serious crimes are being reclassified as lesser crimes to make it look like the administration is being effective at combating crime.

Those 10 commandments are a picture with barely under 400 views. Why are you advertising about it? It has literally received no attention of any significant amount, and it should stay that way. We already know pro-gun control people make no sense, do we need to give attention to any fancy new idea they come up with?