“The industry has brought this strange situation upon itself by not seeking damages. Being forced to pay damages would have set a precedent and discouraged them from being so brazen.”

“Now get rid of Megauploader – they are busy making money off fansubs!”

“Manga is wasted on foreigners. Those outside Japan should stick to reading manhwa!”

“With a billion page views they must have been rolling in it. Best to sue them.”

“The reason it came to this is probably because this content is only that of the yellow races. They should have sued first like Nintendo. They’ve probably got used to scanlation so it’s no good now.”

“Good move. Now do it more with music and movies too.”

“It’s the fault of those idiot publishers for doing nothing. Whilst Hollywood was busy protecting its copyrights they just let it slide. You reap what you sow.”

“With the strong yen they are probably aiming to curb Japanese copying.”

“The disease has spread too far – the market seems to be collapsing like that of anime. It’ll be layoffs and bankruptcies from here on.”

“They enjoy making scanlations – it’s like a club activity to them.”

“It’s like that for fansubs too, but they’re all saying they are helping propagate them. Even the guys writing ero-doujinshi don’t think like that.”

“If you don’t release simultaneously with the Japanese release they will pirate them. They are that committed.”

“They get them even faster than the Japanese regions do. It’s too much…”

“What a bunch of crooks. They make a fortune off donations and advertising revenue. They pretend they are creators and heroes. I want to watch Hollywood movies and American dramas at the same time as their US release. Of course, for free.”

“Overseas manga is ridiculously expensive, so that’s probably behind One Manga’s popularity. However you look at it, ¥2,000 for a single volume is way too much.”

“If the prices drop they’ll just start using censorship as an excuse instead.”

“They wouldn’t buy even if it were cheap. Their anime is far cheaper than in Japan and they still won’t buy.”

The indignation of Japanese anime and manga fans who see themselves having to support an audience of freeloading international fans unwilling to support creators, whilst themselves paying top dollar to ensure even niche audiences can have their needs met, is perhaps not unreasonable, however unsightly its manifestation may be at times.

I certainly wouldn't mind paying for anime and manga IF IT WAS AVAILABLE. Unfortunately, most of what I read and/or watch just isn't available in the Western world. How about these companies actually license/publish in English and I'll shell out the cash.

It just comes down to the fact that a lot of anime is worth checking out but not necessarily worth paying for. Lucky for us, streaming is becoming a major thing now and it's opening up a lot of windows for people who simply can't afford to spend hundreds of dollars on a single series anymore.

Riiiight.
Because 2ch scum doesn't illegally download any western games/movies/music...

Almost everyone with access to a computer has at one point broken copyright laws. People who post their "morally correct" views on how it's bad to steal online are hypocrites with superiority issues.

The only ones who actually haven't ever "downloaded illegally" are the people without access to computers, those too old or too young to use them, etc... The kinds of people that you wouldn't find posting their moral shit on forums.

Industries just need to get over "illegal digital distribution". They need to start viewing that as free advertizing. Quality will always make money.

Quality movies keep on breaking records in sales (yes, even when you inflation adjusted). Music will always make money through live concerts and licensing fees. Plenty of people will even buy the stuff just because they like it (movies, games, music).

Industries are just too greedy to see that almost all of these "illegal downloads" aren't lost revenue. They are a market that doesn't exist. Average person with average downloading habbits (let's say 4 movies, 4 games, 100 songs a month) in reality cannot afford to buy them all. If downloading wasn't an option he might go see 1 movie, buy one game and 20 songs. Or maybe not. Maybe he would borrow cds from friends.

On the other hand let's take a shameless example of a pirate who downloads anything and everything just for the sake of it. Eventually he will play a game or see a movie that really blows him away and will want to buy it.

“What a bunch of crooks. They make a fortune off donations and advertising revenue. They pretend they are creators and heroes. I want to watch Hollywood movies and American dramas at the same time as their US release. Of course, for free.”
I don't know how they equate movies and manga; the former costs (hundreds) millions of dollars to produce, latter is pieces of paper. If they absolutely wanted to see movies when they came out in USA, they could watch shitty cam-rips, just like how people in the Weest have to watch shitty cam-raws of movies that come out in Japan.

Dramas, well they CAN watch them online for free like everyone else. They have google, they can find links just like everyone else.

I use another site and know another where people can read manga. I never liked One manga and never really used it. If manga was released quickly and completed as soon as possible, I would have no problem with buying them but unfortunately that's not the case. I won't make excuses for reading manga online though. It is wrong... but with this new age, it's not very hard to do SOMETHING that isn't cheating creators.

In the world I see everyone has an E book reader like kindle or Ipad or at least "gasp" a computer.
New mangas come out and you get to read the first chapter or whatever for free.
Then it gives you info like released weekly, bi weekly, monthly.
$ per chapter or volume.
Then you can auto subscribe like internet, tv or cable and on the release date you can either have it set to auto download and bill you credit card or other payment method, or have an email alert letting you know your new download is ready.
This would be worth it to me just so I don't have to keep checking to see when new chapters are out.
No scouring the nets for old "out of print" stuff.
Its such a easier business model then, having heaps of stuff printed, delivered, unsold copies disposed of etc.
The current business model sucks.
Overcharge for lots of extra costs, lose money to piraters, higher big money lawyers to chase them.

I used to legally purchase all my manga and I still prefer having it on paper and officially. Unfortunately, many of my manga aren't worth paying money for only a week after release given how impossible it is for me to dodge spoilers (both online and offline).

LOL What a bunch of hypocrites. My ass they don't download free stuff all the time acting like they're high on the moral ground. Then again it's 2chan, what's to be expected? I really hope someone somewhere in japan posts OUR responses back to them though.

On a side note, I'd like to give a middle finger up to whoever said people should stick to manwha. Manwha is great too, and just because it's korean doesn't make it genetically less superior to japanese manga. All manga in the world deserves to be read and no amount of whiny ass generic internet losers no matter how much they complain will keep and prevent such freedom of expression to expanding from the outside world.

On a closing note, if you're STUPID enough to pay 5000 yen for an anime DVD that's basically the same episode just because you're a fan (i'm talking about the Haruhi Endless summer videos) and eat any shit the corporations feed them they deserve paying over the top and being robbed.

This isn't the last wave my friends, It's the FIRST. Get use to it because the battle for scanlations have just begun.

CAN THE 2-CHAN !@#$ERs COME OVER TO MALAYSIA AND SEE HOW THEY GODDAMN DUB ANIME AND MANGA?!!! AND I MEAN DUB AND TRANSLATE!!! CAN'T EVEN GET DECENT RAWS FOR A DECENT PRICE!!! IMAGINE HAVING TO PAY 3 MONTHS WORTH OF UR POCKET MONEY JUST TO BUY A SET OF ANIME WITH ONLY 10 EPISODES INSIDE FOR ALMOST A 100 BUCKS!!! AND AFTER SO !@#$ING MANY YEARS THE ANIME OR MANGA HAS FINISHED AIRING!!! WITHOUT EVEN A DECENT TRANSLATION OR SUBTITLE FOR ITS PRICE!!! AND NOW THEY'RE BITCHING ABOUT HOW FOREIGNERS SHOULD JUST !@#$ OFF AND GO BACK TO MANHWA?!!! AND DUN !@#$ING GET ME STARTED ON CENSORSHIP!!!

You ignorant foreigners admire our culture and copy all we do (from cosplay to our food). This website is the real proof you envy us. It shows your inability to create things. At the same time you dare to insult us and to call for war. It's outrageous.

You just copy and steal without paying anything. Onemanga was scanned by japanese and you weren't able to hide this website. You don't deserve this generous help anymore. It's your own fault, if it dissappeared. We have to pay for your stuff, you will have now to pay for ours.

You even stole our Godnesses from our own board without being generous and thanking us. It's a lack of respect. And you wish to have sex with our girls and lolis. You are western perverts and paedophiles. You won't have them, no foreigners allowed. Japanese girls for japanese men only. Your IP will be reported to our countries police. It's despictable and demonstrates how low you are nowadays. Do your own mangas, respect us and stop stealing our girls and culture.

We won WW2 after all. You are now our slaves and admirers. Respect us or bow to us. We closed Onemanga, we will close all websites stealing our culture, admiring and hating us at the same time, even our US copied board. You lack respect, we won't have respect anymore.

I really fear that otaku are becoming too consumerist and materialistic in their beliefs. How much money you spend doesn't determine how much of an otaku you are. What makes an otaku is passion, not what material possessions you own or how much money you have.

wow that is sad, when i was over there ever one was downloading american tv shows ect, that right there make me think they are all jerks. lol well nothing going to stop they from scaning them and post them any way =^_^= more power to us

This type of sentiment is what stopped a lot of the fansubbing groups that used to jap-sub popular english shows for them from continuing.

The group I was part of a couple years ago that did CSI (yes, japs love CSI) stopped doing it because all we had were ungrateful bastards that complained that we should be doing it faster and more shows because they provide us with anime.

Pff the japanese don't even cater to any market but their own, they can't lose money on something they don't even send any on. So if they are failing in sales it the japanese them selfs that are responsible for it.

I watch fansubs and buy dvds of the one's I like, I don't have the luxery of watching it on TV like they do. So they can go cry me a bloody river for all I care, besides downloading movies and tv series for personal use is legal here. And if they want me to support them, they should support the forgein markets more and provide more international releases so we can buy and support them directly. And the dvd's I do buy are all US releases since the EU get pretty much no love at all.

I am sick of the attitude of these americans! From now on I'm going to pirate all american music, movies and software. I'm only going to buy entertainment in japanese. They have no remorse... even after doing illegal things they still feel that they are right. Since american media doesnt get released everywhere instantly might as well pirate it all.

I'm American and I don't have a problem with you pirating things that don't get released instantly in Japan or old things that are impossible to find off the internet. (I was downloading TV rips of Patalliro before the DVD set came out because there was no place else to get them.)

I go to see movies and buy American books because it's easy for me, not because I love the companies. I buy a lot of Japanese manga because I have a lot of Japanese bookstores where I live. But I download shows from the UK and Australia that will never come over here too.

If you can't get it, you can't get it. I don't take it personally. Watch what you like and if it's good enough then buy it when it comes to Japan. No problem?