I have a 2cm long, rather deep between bows-frown lines. strange that it has never been in existence until the beginning of this year, when I have turned 40 and after an emotional trauma. Ok, it makes me look aged and worn-out, since then, i have tried dozens of products like,Sisley, Shiseldo-future solution for eyes, IS Clinical active serum, Perfect Complexion HA SOYLIFT, ADCE, PSF-BROWTOX, to name just afew of the so called lifting and anti-aging products. But, SAD----- , NOTHING SEEMs TO WORK - on the curing or cumulative result. The line seems to strike back with a vengeance, each time that it has disappeared for an overnight i.e. deeper and more obvious. I am reluctant to try out injections, botox and the likes, for the moment. Any one out there have any goodies to "cure" this problem?

Im like you, have frown lines that i just cant seem to get rid of. Ive actually been using frownies and do find that these are helping. I think it may have something to do with the fact that im probably not frowning so much. I put one on at night before i go to bed. However, i do notice when i dont use them so its not a permanent effect. I think the other ladies on here will probably be a lot more helpful than me

Question about the Frownies: Do you need to put them on absolutely clean (no product at all) skin? I tried them a couple of times but they didn't seem to do much b/c they didn't stick. Then you have the added issue of not being able to use any product at nite

The skin just needs to be relatively dry (not overly moisturized or oily). And you should soak them off with a warm washcloth in the morning, not just rip them off. I speak from experience!

No topicals work for me there either. Botox is all that really works, and Frownies are partially effective. Using surgical tape and similar things don't work for me, because my glabella muscles are too strong. I get away with 15 units of Botox there every 4 months or so. That's about $150. It's not perfect, but it keeps permanent lines away. Everybody's different as far as what they need.

I put n my moisturizer or whatever after cleansing my face etc. I dont actually put my frownies on until i get into bed and am just about to turn the light off. In the morning I soak them off with warm water and a washcloth

Does this 11 lines something to do with age? Nowadays, i m kind of obssessed with finding out about this by observing people of different age. But, still no conclusion as my mum of 68 years old doesnt have any 11 lines at all. She never have any botox or similar things of any kind and use even minimal anti-aging skincares. But, my 11 lines only appear very recently but it is so prominent! Why? I m just 40.

Skinmelon, it mostly has to do with how much you use those muscles. Some people get lines on their foreheads because they raise their eyebrows all the time. I don't do that, and I have no lines on my forehead. I use the muscles between my brows more. I have worked hard to train myself not to do it, but I still do sometimes.

Skinmelon, do you squint a lot? I do especially in the bright daylight. So now I make sure I have sunglasses everywhere I go, even in the car. I don't want to do botox. I hope to be able to use topical creams to get rid of them, but my 11 lines aren't always there. Some days they show up but some they are nowhere to be found. I have no idea why. I was chosen to be a tester of Kim's new products that contains Matrixyl 3000. I have only started using it for 1.5 weeks. It looks promising. However, I also use Super CP serum at night and C serum in the morning. I also try to moisturize the forehead area very well. It seems to work for me. I think it depends on how deep your lines are, too, for how long it will take to correct them. My lines are very shallow when they show up. They used to be deeper a couple of years ago, and I really got worried then. When I remember, I also try not to frown. My eyes are pretty sensitive to light, so frowning is automatic. Botox may end up being the solution, but I try to resist it as long as possible.

Like Sherrin, I use surgical tape which I get at the drugstore for around $6 - lasts for months!
It's called "3M Transpore" and has a low "tack", so its easy to remove and doesn't leave any residue. I can tell it works, since I previously had to dig out creams, lotions etc. with my fingernail and now I don't have to anymore. I also use it on those awful lines around the mouth. BTW, I sleep alone

Skinmelon, do you squint a lot? I do especially in the bright daylight. So now I make sure I have sunglasses everywhere I go, even in the car. I don't want to do botox. I hope to be able to use topical creams to get rid of them, but my 11 lines aren't always there. Some days they show up but some they are nowhere to be found. I have no idea why. I was chosen to be a tester of Kim's new products that contains Matrixyl 3000. I have only started using it for 1.5 weeks. It looks promising. However, I also use Super CP serum at night and C serum in the morning. I also try to moisturize the forehead area very well. It seems to work for me. I think it depends on how deep your lines are, too, for how long it will take to correct them. My lines are very shallow when they show up. They used to be deeper a couple of years ago, and I really got worried then. When I remember, I also try not to frown. My eyes are pretty sensitive to light, so frowning is automatic. Botox may end up being the solution, but I try to resist it as long as possible.

Oh, good, really open my eyes as to new topicals to use. I am currently waiting for Candy's Matrixyl 3000 to arrive at my door. Thanks for giving me new hope for non-Botox method for my frownies! Thanks, girls out there who post for this topic.

Like Sherrin, I use surgical tape which I get at the drugstore for around $6 - lasts for months!
It's called "3M Transpore" and has a low "tack", so its easy to remove and doesn't leave any residue. I can tell it works, since I previously had to dig out creams, lotions etc. with my fingernail and now I don't have to anymore. I also use it on those awful lines around the mouth. BTW, I sleep alone

oh, so funny, i cant stop when i tried to imagine one with tapes in between brows, around mouth .. Thanks for sharing, anya.

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Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:24 am

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