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Mark Lim wrote: Can I ask you guys about taping a TV show while you are not home to watch it, so you can wtach it later. Is that illegal? Apparently, my country's Attorney General says it was illegal to copy TV programs so you can watch later. Now he has relaxed the law, so Aussies are O.K. to do this now. That's fine in this country, it's called timeshifting in copyright law and allows you to keep a copy for an acceptable amount of time. If it were illegal then PVRs like Sky+ and that new BBC P2P player wouldn't be allowed.

Mark Lim wrote: Can I ask you guys about taping a TV show while you are not home to watch it, so you can wtach it later. Is that illegal? Apparently, my country's Attorney General says it was illegal to copy TV programs so you can watch later. Now he has relaxed the law, so Aussies are O.K. to do this now. That may be true now but we are still unable to back up DVD's and CD's still

Can I ask you guys about taping a TV show while you are not home to watch it, so you can wtach it later. Is that illegal? Apparently, my country's Attorney General says it was illegal to copy TV programs so you can watch later. Now he has relaxed the law, so Aussies are O.K. to do this now.

Adrian wrote: However, I doubt that anyone would ever be prosecuted under this law if it was solely for personaly usage. As long as you don't turn around and start selling your burned copies or upload and share them on the internet the chances of getting caught for copying your own stuff are next to nothing.

As Matt said above, the very act of copying a DVD is illegal now in the US (though I am not sure that any cases have been tried against it) because of the DMCA. The DMCA made it illegal to circumvent copy protection for any reason. (Which for awhile, I'm pretty sure it was illegal to have a working DVD player under Linux.) You cannot copy a DVD without circumventing the copy protection scheme.

Basically, the DMCA gutted fair use of the copyright law for digital media. However, I doubt that anyone would ever be prosecuted under this law if it was solely for personaly usage.

If you think about it Tony, if you have a backup of your DVD so that say "the kids don't hurt the original" you may be able to get away with it but as soon as you sell the original, then in theory you now have a bootleg copy....

Chris wrote: Tony DeFrancisco wrote: Actually Chris, if you actually purchased the DVDs and then back them up over here, it's not illegal. Only if you back up rented or borrowed DVDs is illegal.

But I don't know what the laws are over in the U.K., they may be different from the ones over here.

You asked him if he had ever thought of 'backing up' DVDs he'd previously bought, implying that he should copy them before selling the originals. Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

Anyway, as Matt said, it is illegal. There was a ruling where it was decided it contravened the DMCA, which is why you can't buy software like DVD-X Copy now.I guess I'm wrong then, I never knew that there was a ruling of it and that's what I've been told about in family discussions about the law (since my parents are lawyers.)

Tony DeFrancisco wrote: Actually Chris, if you actually purchased the DVDs and then back them up over here, it's not illegal. Only if you back up rented or borrowed DVDs is illegal. You're completely wrong about that, Tony. Copying a DVD is illegal whether you own the actual disc or not.

Copyright laws are strict and somewhat stuck in the past in this country, about the only media you are allowed to back-up is floppy disks. You aren't even allowed to encode MP3 files from CDs that you have purchased. The only legal way you can have copyrighted music on an MP3 player is if it was purchased from something like iTunes. It the same with media centres - technically they break the law if they store DVDs in a hard disk. There's talk of possible changes soon but the big industry bodies don't want this and favour an idea of keeping it illegal but instead turning a blind eye to the more accepted forms of copying.

I think there was a recent survey that suggested 55% of the UK population are breaking current copyright laws in relation to copying/transfering/backing-up CDs.

And no, I own all the DVDs I have ever bought. Although the vast majority I have only seen once so recently decided to switch to using online DVD rental and only purchase occassionally.

Chris, the funny thing is that people still listen to old records, 45s, 78,s and such. They're collectible and still in played in listeners homes (my dad, for instance.)

Is anyone gonna miss VHS when it dies? It's almost dead, I know. I've often considered buying the largest VHS collection I can, considering they're very very cheap. Then one day having a room in my house with a vcr, tv, and a million VHS tapes. A VHS room.

I only have a few VHS as I was always holding out for an optical format. The ones I do have are all widescreen stuff like Star Wars, Pulp Fiction, Alien, Aliens, Reservoir Dogs, Trainspotting etc. All of them cost more than the pan and scan versions at the time. Can't believe that VHS used to sell for £14-£15.

I buy far too many DVDs and never sell/trade any of them due to my hoarding tendencies. I did get rid of my complete VHS collection last year though, sold them all to BLockbuster for 40p a piece. The guy behind the desk was a bit surprised when I turned up with 8 bin bags full of vids

Quote: This is gonna cost a bit of money, but ever think of backing up DVDs that you previously bought?

Otherwise known as illegally copying material that you do not own.

I never really sell/trade anything, mostly because I only buy stuff I want now and the older titles are pretty much worthless on the second hand market. I can't stand to sell a DVD I paid a tenner for go for a couple of quid (if that). Plus I'm a hoarder.

I haven't actually boughtt a DVD in a couple of months as there's very little I want. There are a couple that I might pick up, such as Walk the Line, but I have all of the 'big' releases that interest me.

I regularly trade off DVDs every few months at used shops. It feels good to purge a few every once and a while. I'm thinking Braveheart and Curse of the Devil next time around. I just don't picture myself watching those ever again. I like to really keep my collection somewhat essential, though there are a few titles I just hang on to for collection reasons, knowing I'll probably never watch them again, like Once upon a Time in America. That flicks just too long to enjoy on a regular basis, but I could never get rid of it. Besides, it only cost me 4 bucks.

This is gonna cost a bit of money, but ever think of backing up DVDs that you previously bought? Once you buy them, back them up so you'll have another copy. So if you ever have to let the bought ones go, you can have your backed-up copies with you and you won't have to keep on giving up DVDs like that. I know what that's like when I had to give up a few DVDs that I love when they broke.

... your DVDS, I mean. This morning, I had to sell a large portion of my DVDs to be able to live comfortably during the summer. Driving about nintey miles every day to get to school and work. Gas is killing me.

Among those I had to part with were my recently reviewed Batman discs. Didn't feel too bad about that since I won't be re-watching them anytime soon... but I do need to get those back someday.

Anyone else ever have to sell their loved ones to survive? Today was a sad day for me. Updating my DVD Aficionado just rubbed it in.