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What are you? American? Of course you need to clean those damned M16A2/M4A1/M6A2/M249/ etc's

They jam!
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We really (in a war perspective) need a new standard rifle for our infantry. The M4 series is just becoming to outdated compared to the world. Isreal with their Tar-21's. Russian AN-94's. It goes on.

My husband is an active duty Marine with two combat tours in Iraq under his belt, and wholeheartedly agrees with your take on the M-4! He has mentioned that the military is looking hard at the FN SCAR series (especially the "H" version) and the HK 416,417.
He said anything would be an improvement, especially something in 7.62 NATO!

Now, is it me, or are silenced weapon not actually to silent in real life? I've seen quite a few snipers on Future Weapons with a silencer, and the shot sound was still quite loud. Was that just the silencer, or are they just overexaggerated in movies and such?

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Originally Posted by Lost Cause

My husband is an active duty Marine with two combat tours in Iraq under his belt, and wholeheartedly agrees with your take on the M-4! He has mentioned that the military is looking hard at the FN SCAR series (especially the "H" version) and the HK 416,417.
He said anything would be an improvement, especially something in 7.62 NATO!

The FN Scar series did manage to make it as SOCOM's main weapon, but...

H-Scar, 416, and the 417 all went head-to-head with the XM8, which proved to be a beauty, but the US canclled it's implimenation. Such a shame.

Same with dragonskin; it provides exponentially higher defence to its wearers, but our damned US gov't bannored it!!!
Likely because of $.

Also, the reports on the gun testing also surveyed the soldiers, in which most said they were "satisfied" with the M4 anyways.

I think that was before we got into Iraq or Afganistan right? In which case they (the Army) had figured we'd never get into a war where long range fire might be needed from other than snipers! Witness if you will to reissue of old M-14s to engage targets beyond 500 yards.
Secondly let's go back 40 years and remember how the Army screamed bloody murder about dumping the M-14 for the M-16! The 'History Channel' had a great show about this!

Either that or the bureaucrats figure it's "good enough" or "hey it's worked for this long why change it" atitude! They'll spend billions on carriers or new fighters but not one red cent on a new rifle, the very basic weapon used in a fight! Plus new tech manuals, training, and equipment.
Here's a new one. Which do you prefer; Semi automatic pistol or Revolver for general use and self defence?