Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

Originally Posted by elcherino

Even during the jummah khutba.

:salam:

to my knowledge, you pray the 2 rakat no matter what. However if you enter a masjid and they are already praying in jamaat, you are obligated to fall in and pray in jamaat immediately because when you fall behind the imam, u are under the imam's jurisdiction.

Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

According to Madhab of Imam shafiee , Imam Ahmad ,Ishaq and hadith scholars when you enter the masjid while imam is givng khutba it is mustahabb to pray 2 rakaats.It is makrooh to sit down without praying the 2 rakaats.Madhab of Imam Abu hanifa you do not pray during the khutba.the last part i can not translate it properly.sorry

Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

Salaams

tahhiyatul masjid

This is something that is prayed upon entering the Masjid, it is very recommended. So as long as the fard salah has not started you should pray it, not only is it a right of the Masjid but also much benefit to you. Each and every place you pray and prostrate your head it will seek forgiveness for you and be a witness on that Day.

We should get in to a habit of it as it does not take long but the effects and rewards are much.

If the person delivering the Friday sermon (Khateeb) is on the pulpit (minbar) then one should still pray the 2 units but they should not be lengthy. After this you should sit and listen to the remainder of the sermon.

And Allah (swt) knows best.

Wa salaams

Your bro

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Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

Originally Posted by abdalmajid

Salaams

tahhiyatul masjid

This is something that is prayed upon entering the Masjid, it is very recommended. So as long as the fard salah has not started you should pray it, not only is it a right of the Masjid but also much benefit to you. Each and every place you pray and prostrate your head it will seek forgiveness for you and be a witness on that Day.

We should get in to a habit of it as it does not take long but the effects and rewards are much.

If the person delivering the Friday sermon (Khateeb) is on the pulpit (minbar) then one should still pray the 2 units but they should not be lengthy. After this you should sit and listen to the remainder of the sermon.

And Allah (swt) knows best.

Wa salaams

Your bro

Ibn Muhammad Shafi

Ahki

“Allah does not place a burden upon a person except that which he is capable” (Al-Baqarah: 286)

If the person delivering the Friday sermon (Khateeb) is on the pulpit (minbar) then one should still pray the 2 units but they should not be lengthy. After this you should sit and listen to the remainder of the sermon.

The Nabi (saw) has commanded us to remain silent and listen attentively to the Khutbah. From what I have read one should not be praying during the Khutbah. In fact it has been said that if a person is already praying then they should finish at that rakah and remain silent and listen attentively. This is what my local Imaam says as well.

Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

Originally Posted by elzaeed

The Nabi (saw) has commanded us to remain silent and listen attentively to the Khutbah. From what I have read one should not be praying during the Khutbah. In fact it has been said that if a person is already praying then they should finish at that rakah and remain silent and listen attentively. This is what my local Imaam says as well.

This makes sense. Imagine if the majority of the brothers walked in late during Jum'a and the Imam had already began his Khutbah. I would think it a little 'disruptive' to have people praying whilst he was talking.

And if you go by the thought it's OK to pray even when he's talking, I wonder if you'd still receive the Ajr of attending Jum'a.? My understanding is you lose the Ajr when you speak when your Imam is speaking. Allahu a'lim. Tricky one.

And for the brothers reading this...for the love of Allah swt, dress nicely on this day. I see way too many brothers looking a little worse for wear on this day. Jum'a is a special day. Make the effort. Iron your clothes, and for Allah's sake, take a shower that morning and put some nice perfume on. I'm coming THIS close to taking a brother aside and telling him he smells and that it's not on.

You can be the most gorgeous brother in the world, great beard, chiselled jawline, great abs. But if your underarms stink, forget it mate. Ain't no sister going to want to share her private quaters with you, guaranteed!

If someone praises one of them (the believer), he says, "I know myself better than others [know me], and my Lord is more knowledgeable of me than myself. O Allah! Do not take me to task for what they say, and make me better than what they think of me, and forgive me for those sins which they are unaware of."

Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

Originally Posted by Songbird

And for the brothers reading this...for the love of Allah swt, dress nicely on this day. I see way too many brothers looking a little worse for wear on this day. Jum'a is a special day. Make the effort. Iron your clothes, and for Allah's sake, take a shower that morning and put some nice perfume on. I'm coming THIS close to taking a brother aside and telling him he smells and that it's not on.

You can be the most gorgeous brother in the world, great beard, chiselled jawline, great abs. But if your underarms stink, forget it mate. Ain't no sister going to want to share her private quaters with you, guaranteed!

lol

You've got a point though Sis.

BROTHERS LISTEN UP YEA!!

Listen to the Sisters word and act upon them for tonight is Thursday so get out the Iron and iron that shirt Bro, take that shower tomorrow morning and make an effort for Allah ta'ala

“Allah does not place a burden upon a person except that which he is capable” (Al-Baqarah: 286)

Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

Originally Posted by elcherino

It is better to apply it whether you come to pray or not.see it as right of the masjid upon you.

UNLESS!.... the prayer has already commenced, it is not permissable to pray tahiyyat al masjid while the obligitory prayer is commencing or has already started, and if one beggins to pray the tahiyyat al masjid and the iqama is called one should leave the tahiyya and join the obligitory salat. the prophet (saw) used to seem like he didnt know anybody when the iqama was called rawahu bukhari and also a congrigational prayer is 25-70x the reward of a person who prays alone rawahu bukhari.

Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

Does this apply to when one is entering a Masjid to pray Salah OR does this apply to one who enters a Masjid at any time for any activity?

anytime. when we went for umrah, and visited different mosques, the ullama advised the mosques have rights, and they are not just a sight seeing building, so to prevent it, you must read tayatul masjid

Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

what if you running a little late...and you enter the masjid lets say for Zuhr...you know you have just enough time to pray the 4 sunnah before the 4 fard behind the imam - what takes precedence - the 2 rakats for entering the masjid or the 4 rakats sunnah offered before Zuhr namaaz?

Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

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Originally Posted by elzaeed

The Nabi (saw) has commanded us to remain silent and listen attentively to the Khutbah. From what I have read one should not be praying during the Khutbah. In fact it has been said that if a person is already praying then they should finish at that rakah and remain silent and listen attentively. This is what my local Imaam says as well.Please have a look at some articles on IslamQA on this subject; http://www.islamqa.com/en/search/pra...AllWords/t,q,a

Ma'aSalaama

Brother, your words are in contradiction with the rulings on this matter.

One should pray two short rakaat of tayatul masjid upon entering EVEN if the khateeb is on the mimbar.

Here is the daleel on which to follow:

The hadeeth of Jaabir ibn ‘Abd-Allaah who said: a man came whilst the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was addressing the people on the day of Jumu’ah. He said, “Have you prayed, O So and so?” He said, “No.” he said, “Stand up and pray two rak’ahs.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 888; Muslim, 875)

Fuqaha have recognized this to be general command- not specifically for So and So (unmentioned companion).

What your imam was mentioning may have been in reference to praying two rakaat of nawafil while already in the masjid, waiting for the khutbah. As the time to do nawafil salaat is NOT during the khutbah as the zuhr adhan on Jumuah day is the sabab (reason) for sitting quietly in the masjid.

However, the time to perform tayatul masjid salaah is upon entering the masjid even if the khateeb is on the mimbar as 'entering the masjid' is the sabab for the tayatul masjid salah.

Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

Originally Posted by belal1

:salam:

to my knowledge, you pray the 2 rakat no matter what. However if you enter a masjid and they are already praying in jamaat, you are obligated to fall in and pray in jamaat immediately because when you fall behind the imam, u are under the imam's jurisdiction.

but you should check and verify that...

:salam:

can be a better way to explain it, and btw it is what i have been taught aswell

Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

I don't but I see other people that do. Lots of Muslims come in and do this extra salah on Friday before the khutbah starts and even some do it during the khutbah, I actually don't know how many rakat it is but I don't do that either.

:S And my friend doesn't do it and he's knowledgable about Islam- more than me and says that he gets looked at for not doing it. Ever since he said this, it's made me so darn paranoid.

Re: Praying 2 Rakats when entering a Masjid

It's just something I found new and strange because I've never done it before... :S

It's the same thing when I went to the university mosque and saw people praying salah slightly differently and I was like woah what is going on because the Muslims in the mosque I know don't do this- they pray all the same so I thought every Muslim in the planet prayed the Hanafi way!!!!!