Comments on: The people of Cooperstown are not happy with the shutouthttp://mlb.nbcsports.com/2013/01/10/the-people-of-cooperstown-are-not-happy-with-the-shutout/
Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball.Tue, 20 Mar 2018 02:26:11 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: louhudson23http://mlb.nbcsports.com/2013/01/10/the-people-of-cooperstown-are-not-happy-with-the-shutout/#comment-425217
Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:08:20 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425217That was my thought as I read the comments. If everyone is so concerned about the merchants in Cooperstown,then this year would be a most excellent time to go.Otherwise,I assume this year’s excuse for not going will be remarkably similar to all the previous years excuses. And for those who have visited,congratulations. I have never been ,but still hope to do so. However,I do not blame the lack of inductees this year for the fact that I have never been in my life.
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Fri, 11 Jan 2013 09:02:12 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425216Quite amusing to see the phrase “level playing field”,all things considered. Maybe next time you can fit in “swollen heads”….
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Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:33:56 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425207Given the nature of the responses to your “joke” I suggest you use “Sarcasm Font” next time.
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Fri, 11 Jan 2013 03:31:39 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425169You’re wrong, lots of people would show up for Bonds, Clemens, Sosa, and McGwire. Probably more than a few in order to boo. That’s beside the point,though.

Biggio, Bagwell, Raines, Trammell, Martinez, Schilling and Piazza got hosed, and they are not “known cheaters.” All 7 should absolutely been in. Along with them, Cooperstown gets hosed too.

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Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:27:56 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425154@Bigsuede – Maybe so, but do you really think MLB cared in 1998 when Sosa and McGwire were chasing the record? Highly doubtful. It was pretty obvious what was going on, and no one said peep until the moralists became holier-than-thou. Bonds’ juicing was the most painfully obvious example in history, but did MLB start sniffing around before he broke the record (and made them a ton of money)?

I’m not saying that what they did was right, but it definitely wasn’t a secret. People like us never left baseball after the strike, but a lot of casual fans did. Not only did the players that juiced see an increase in money, but MLB and everyone involved did so as well. And after these guys broke the records, made a boatload of money for everyone involved, and left the game, they were outed by many of the same people who quietly condoned their actions in the first place.

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Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:23:06 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425152Analogy? I was making fun of Craig for stating the obvious….that of course losing money sucks.
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Fri, 11 Jan 2013 02:21:58 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425150You see, these are what are known as “jokes” – i.e. why wouldn’t someone be upset about losing money.
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Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:41:55 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425131If they wanted to salvage the weekend, they’d figure out how to get Pete Rose an honorary mention or something like that and let him and several other former on the outs players to sign autographs for free.

Or Bonds, McGuire, Rafi, and Sosa together again would be fun…….

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Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:36:59 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425128Steroids were prohibited in baseball by faye vincent back in 1991. There is a reason the steroid cheats hid the fact that they used steriods.

Players knew they were cheating and didn’t care- they wanted to get paid.

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Fri, 11 Jan 2013 01:00:29 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425105Good answer.
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Fri, 11 Jan 2013 00:14:30 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425086Cheaters break rules. There were no rules against steroids in the era in question. Bonds, Clemens and the others did not take drug tests, therefore did not fail drug test. Therefore they did not “cheat.” All that there is to denigrate these players is hear-say, innuendo and accusations after the fact.

Some enterprising scribe should sit down over the summer and investigate all the saints currently enshrined in the hall and make a list of those that truly belong and those that do not add up to our present day Victorian attitudes towards moral and ethical behaviour. Those that do not make the cut should be thrown out.

Another avenue to discuss is setting up another HOF, who is to say there is not room on the planet for a HOF that enshrines players based on their careers and not their morality?

So if the BBWAA doesn’t care about the people of Cooperstown and the fans of Major League Baseball, then wtf are they doing purporting to care so damn much about about Hall of Fame?

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Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:26:51 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425028Inducting a bunch of cheaters isn’t exactly going to get the masses to turn out either.
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Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:25:17 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425026I’m sure the BBWAA knew, but I doubt they cared. Fostering the economy of Cooperstown, NY is not part of their job.
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Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:21:38 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425024How can someone with the handle “BigBeachBall” call anything gay?
It just doesn’t add up.
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Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:20:20 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425023That’s a terrible analogy. The Cardinals haven’t gone to the World Series every year for many, many years, and there’s no good reason to think they would. Whereas the BBWAA has elected someone to the HOF every year for many years, and there are plenty of good reasons to think they would keep doing so. So yeah, local business owners in Cooperstown absolutely are entitled to be upset; they’re not crappy businesspeople or lazy whiners. It was perfectly reasonable for them to plan on having a bunch of tourists show up for the HOF induction ceremony. Whereas it is not reasonable for St. Louis hotel owners to assume before the season even starts that the Cardinals will make the World Series.
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Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:20:10 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425022Don’t sweat it 42. You get a birthday every year. Just go next year.
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Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:19:45 +0000http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=284838#comment-425021Obviously with already dwindling attendance numbers, it is a great time to visit Cooperstown. Avoid the crowds.
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