Re: So Now Political Debate Is Sexual Harassment According To Socialist Ocasio-Cortez

Just a recap on her platform.......

Medicare for all

Fully funded public schools and universities

Cancel all student debt

Universal jobs guarantee

Housing as a human right

Abolish ICE

Justice-system reform

"New Green Deal" to combat climate change

Quoting: ~kpm~

The first 3 aren't really bad ideas in general(medicare for all would be for the most part cheaper than our current setup, no real reason not to fund our schools sanely for either side, and student debt has become a ponzi scheme by liberal universities at this point making that argument ironically work against her masters) but are completely undoable without completely sealing the borders, mining it, building the wall and treating anyone after a certain period as a invasion force with the treatment such a thing would require (aka shoot first ask questions later).

"universal jobs guarantee"...why not just ask for universal basic income at that point, it would be alot more doable than the bureaucratic nightmare that would cause, and even then the only way you could do that is to force companies to hire people, which is arguably the most anti-capitalistic action you can do, i mean i hate both capitalism and socialism but if i gotta choose one or the other i'm choosing capitalist because that's what the country was founded on and i'd fight to the death to keep the country as it's supposed to be.

"housing as a human right"sounds good on paper, but i'd rather own my land instead of leasing it from the gov tyvm, not to mention alot of people who don't have a home now don't have one thanks to obama's "wonderful" financial policies.

"Abolish ICE"Might as well abolish the united states at that point, no, just no.

"Justice-system Reform"The only part of our justice system that needs reform is the copyright and public domain laws, most of the rest of the laws are fine, the problem is they aren't enforced, such as the laws that provent monopolies like google coming about.

"New green deal"You could easily work out a new green deal without destroying us industry, but where's the money in that?Vertical farms not only produce more food, but also sequester tons of carbon, why not fund that, or better yet, why not fund things like trump's space force which not only gives us a stronger military, but also gives us a reason to industrialize space, something we should have done 40 years ago.

This is me being nice to her goals, if i was a bit more cruel well...Point is she's a idiot who's never seen what it's like to be poor and thinks she know's the plight of the poor while walking around in 500$ designer suits, damn champagne socialists.

One who chooses selfish actions has their reward, one who chooses selfless acts, also have their reward.

Re: So Now Political Debate Is Sexual Harassment According To Socialist Ocasio-Cortez

Just a recap on her platform.......

Medicare for all

Fully funded public schools and universities

Cancel all student debt

Universal jobs guarantee

Housing as a human right

Abolish ICE

Justice-system reform

"New Green Deal" to combat climate change

Quoting: ~kpm~

The first 3 aren't really bad ideas in general(medicare for all would be for the most part cheaper than our current setup, no real reason not to fund our schools sanely for either side, and student debt has become a ponzi scheme by liberal universities at this point making that argument ironically work against her masters) but are completely undoable without completely sealing the borders, mining it, building the wall and treating anyone after a certain period as a invasion force with the treatment such a thing would require (aka shoot first ask questions later).

"universal jobs guarantee"...why not just ask for universal basic income at that point, it would be alot more doable than the bureaucratic nightmare that would cause, and even then the only way you could do that is to force companies to hire people, which is arguably the most anti-capitalistic action you can do, i mean i hate both capitalism and socialism but if i gotta choose one or the other i'm choosing capitalist because that's what the country was founded on and i'd fight to the death to keep the country as it's supposed to be.

"housing as a human right"sounds good on paper, but i'd rather own my land instead of leasing it from the gov tyvm, not to mention alot of people who don't have a home now don't have one thanks to obama's "wonderful" financial policies.

"Abolish ICE"Might as well abolish the united states at that point, no, just no.

"Justice-system Reform"The only part of our justice system that needs reform is the copyright and public domain laws, most of the rest of the laws are fine, the problem is they aren't enforced, such as the laws that provent monopolies like google coming about.

"New green deal"You could easily work out a new green deal without destroying us industry, but where's the money in that?Vertical farms not only produce more food, but also sequester tons of carbon, why not fund that, or better yet, why not fund things like trump's space force which not only gives us a stronger military, but also gives us a reason to industrialize space, something we should have done 40 years ago.

This is me being nice to her goals, if i was a bit more cruel well...Point is she's a idiot who's never seen what it's like to be poor and thinks she know's the plight of the poor while walking around in 500$ designer suits, damn champagne socialists.

Quoting: Tatsuya

Not to highjack this thread...but you want to solve the student loan issue? Allow them to get rid of it in bankruptcy. That would force everyone to be responsible.

Re: So Now Political Debate Is Sexual Harassment According To Socialist Ocasio-Cortez

Just a recap on her platform.......

Medicare for all

Fully funded public schools and universities

Cancel all student debt

Universal jobs guarantee

Housing as a human right

Abolish ICE

Justice-system reform

"New Green Deal" to combat climate change

Quoting: ~kpm~

The first 3 aren't really bad ideas in general(medicare for all would be for the most part cheaper than our current setup, no real reason not to fund our schools sanely for either side, and student debt has become a ponzi scheme by liberal universities at this point making that argument ironically work against her masters) but are completely undoable without completely sealing the borders, mining it, building the wall and treating anyone after a certain period as a invasion force with the treatment such a thing would require (aka shoot first ask questions later).

"universal jobs guarantee"...why not just ask for universal basic income at that point, it would be alot more doable than the bureaucratic nightmare that would cause, and even then the only way you could do that is to force companies to hire people, which is arguably the most anti-capitalistic action you can do, i mean i hate both capitalism and socialism but if i gotta choose one or the other i'm choosing capitalist because that's what the country was founded on and i'd fight to the death to keep the country as it's supposed to be.

"housing as a human right"sounds good on paper, but i'd rather own my land instead of leasing it from the gov tyvm, not to mention alot of people who don't have a home now don't have one thanks to obama's "wonderful" financial policies.

"Abolish ICE"Might as well abolish the united states at that point, no, just no.

"Justice-system Reform"The only part of our justice system that needs reform is the copyright and public domain laws, most of the rest of the laws are fine, the problem is they aren't enforced, such as the laws that provent monopolies like google coming about.

"New green deal"You could easily work out a new green deal without destroying us industry, but where's the money in that?Vertical farms not only produce more food, but also sequester tons of carbon, why not fund that, or better yet, why not fund things like trump's space force which not only gives us a stronger military, but also gives us a reason to industrialize space, something we should have done 40 years ago.

This is me being nice to her goals, if i was a bit more cruel well...Point is she's a idiot who's never seen what it's like to be poor and thinks she know's the plight of the poor while walking around in 500$ designer suits, damn champagne socialists.

Quoting: Tatsuya

Not to highjack this thread...but you want to solve the student loan issue? Allow them to get rid of it in bankruptcy. That would force everyone to be responsible.

Quoting: Dudeashaneo

I mean i don't disagree, i'm just saying that considering most college loans these days are rigged from the start, not to mention the document being worth less than the toilet paper in your bathroom, something really should be done, that said i like your idea a bit better, but considering these schools are more like reeducation camps these days (which is where these communists are being pumped out lately), i'd rather it just be completely wiped clean and remake the university system from scratch.

One who chooses selfish actions has their reward, one who chooses selfless acts, also have their reward.

Re: So Now Political Debate Is Sexual Harassment According To Socialist Ocasio-Cortez

Just a recap on her platform.......

Medicare for all

Fully funded public schools and universities

Cancel all student debt

Universal jobs guarantee

Housing as a human right

Abolish ICE

Justice-system reform

"New Green Deal" to combat climate change

Quoting: ~kpm~

The first 3 aren't really bad ideas in general(medicare for all would be for the most part cheaper than our current setup, no real reason not to fund our schools sanely for either side, and student debt has become a ponzi scheme by liberal universities at this point making that argument ironically work against her masters) but are completely undoable without completely sealing the borders, mining it, building the wall and treating anyone after a certain period as a invasion force with the treatment such a thing would require (aka shoot first ask questions later).

"universal jobs guarantee"...why not just ask for universal basic income at that point, it would be alot more doable than the bureaucratic nightmare that would cause, and even then the only way you could do that is to force companies to hire people, which is arguably the most anti-capitalistic action you can do, i mean i hate both capitalism and socialism but if i gotta choose one or the other i'm choosing capitalist because that's what the country was founded on and i'd fight to the death to keep the country as it's supposed to be.

"housing as a human right"sounds good on paper, but i'd rather own my land instead of leasing it from the gov tyvm, not to mention alot of people who don't have a home now don't have one thanks to obama's "wonderful" financial policies.

"Abolish ICE"Might as well abolish the united states at that point, no, just no.

"Justice-system Reform"The only part of our justice system that needs reform is the copyright and public domain laws, most of the rest of the laws are fine, the problem is they aren't enforced, such as the laws that provent monopolies like google coming about.

"New green deal"You could easily work out a new green deal without destroying us industry, but where's the money in that?Vertical farms not only produce more food, but also sequester tons of carbon, why not fund that, or better yet, why not fund things like trump's space force which not only gives us a stronger military, but also gives us a reason to industrialize space, something we should have done 40 years ago.

This is me being nice to her goals, if i was a bit more cruel well...Point is she's a idiot who's never seen what it's like to be poor and thinks she know's the plight of the poor while walking around in 500$ designer suits, damn champagne socialists.

Quoting: Tatsuya

Not to highjack this thread...but you want to solve the student loan issue? Allow them to get rid of it in bankruptcy. That would force everyone to be responsible.

Quoting: Dudeashaneo

I mean i don't disagree, i'm just saying that considering most college loans these days are rigged from the start, not to mention the document being worth less than the toilet paper in your bathroom, something really should be done, that said i like your idea a bit better, but considering these schools are more like reeducation camps these days (which is where these communists are being pumped out lately), i'd rather it just be completely wiped clean and remake the university system from scratch.

Quoting: Tatsuya

Your comment made me think of a scene I saw in a show.

The kid needed like 10 grand to get back into college so he went to all the credit card kiosks on campus and signed up for instant cards.

You’re right about them being re-education camps!

You hit the nail on the head with that comment!

That’s why they are so willing to hand out so much money they know they aren’t getting back!

I know a couple, 50 years old, that are still paying their loans.....they never made enough as teachers to pay it off.....pretty sad.