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Gaiman worked on the original 1602, which had a follow up entitled "The New World" by Greg Pak, who did the Phoenix: Endsong. Personally? I'm not familiar with Gaiman's work, but for the most part, people are saying that his 1602 isn't up to par, and from my own (extremely high) standards, I'd have to agree.

Right now, he's busy with Eternals, featuring Sersi, mind you. Number one came out this month, and number two is shipping this week. I'm getting my copy tomorrow. If you don't have it yet then maybe you can just back-order. It's not all that great, but my bro really digged it, so he'll be the one spending the cash.

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I'm still a little stuck on buying everything that Brian Vaughan ever wrote. Plus collecting Fables on trade is taxing my wallet Besides, I did a short read once, cuz a lot of my friends were Gaimanoholics, and I really wasn't as involved in it as they were.

By the way, read Ultra: Seven Days by the Luna Brothers. It's like Sex and City meets Marvel, totally rocks

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Those of you familar with the game City of Heroes may remember a gay team called PRISM. Well, a number of the original members of the team (me included) have banded together to start a comic series.
I serve as an adviser to the comic. My hero, Lightspot, appears in the series. Please stop by the above site, check it out, and visit the forums to learn more about the book, which will arrive this fall.

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They're watching me? They must be bored out of their minds then. Anyway, I guess the only reason I don't like libraries is that I never see a remotely attractive person in any a 'em. Gym is much better

Tony really *IS* a tool...

Originally Posted by luminum

That's because Tony's a tool in every sense of the word. His powers are tool-based and he's a tool in general.

If by 'Tony', you're referring to none other than Tony Stark aka Iron Man, I couldn't agree with you more. One of the earliest significant memories back in my hey-day when I had barely collected comics more more than a year, was Iron Man #228, and after what he did to Steve 'Captain America' Rogers (The way I just did it; it's for the newbies; obviously not the seasoned comic pros, natch) in that ish, I never really liked him. I even did some fan fic/a prospective script for Marvel (that I actually sent to them) where I made Iron Man into a rabid homophobe, and although that didn't ever make it into a comic, I have an idea that Kurt Busiek may have gotten his hands on it, and some point, and 'organically' inserted his interpretation into one of his books, and though Iron Man wasn't portrayed as anti-gay, he did make a comment 'bout him being racist; the exact (if I've got the scumbag title right, anywayz) quote was "Now that I've come across as the Imperial Grand Wizard of the KKK...".

Big points to any real geeks who can name me the V. and issue # where Tony the Tool said that...

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Originally Posted by Scruffy88

hmm, we should start different threads for DC and marvel. Cause I don't know what the fuck is going on in Marvel right now (by default, im a dc fan) Civil war seems awesome, but i am so far behind, i cant get into it. i missed too much. If its anything as big as infinite Crisis at DC then it must be awesome

Don't feel bad, I'm buying most of the Civil War stuff and I feel so far behind myself. Some of it just isn't making any sense... I think part of it is the way the books are scheduled to come out.

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MunSimpson: Hey bro, glad to see another BR fan here. (Thought I was the only one...) The manga's awesome, way more than the film version since the movie never got to flesh out the students like the comic did.

Mitsuko is awesome. She's gotta be the most creative killer out there.

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Yeah, censor nuts should have a field day with it. It's way more freaky than Kill BIll 'cuz those are actual 15 year olds playing 15 year olds who are stabbing, shooting, and maiming each other.

But it's way tame comapred to the Manga version. There we get brains, guys getting uzi-ed in the crotch, Mitsuko raping a guy to death, and other scary shit that some of my badass straight friends can't even stomach.

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Did anyone read Nick Fury? I just saw that there is a movie announced for 2008. My thing is that I never read the original S.H.I.E.L.D. series from the 60's (I wasn't born) but I became interested when I saw a parody of it done in a Simpsons comic. It made out that it was all kinda weird 60's psychadelic in style (by Streranko) and I love all that kinda stuff so I was trying to look out to buy some of the old versions. BUT i know that Hollywood will just modernize the story in another generic factory superhero remake, which I am so sick of! They did the same with Fantastic Four. I wanted them to do a jokey, camp 1960's version like the original (kinda like Incredibles did), but I suppose that would be unmarketable.

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Beafous: The only Nick Fury that I read, and in my opinion, the only one that matters, was Nick Fury MAX. It's pretty old, and it's written by legendary gore guru Garth Ennis. Check it out.

MunSimpson: Yeah man. The way she got KO'd in the manga was just too fucking much. I went like 'oh shit' and just stared at the splash page. I preferred how she got killed in the movie version, because there she was a hellcat...in the manga they took the more sympathetic route. Hmm, then I again, I also preffered the movie's lighthouse scene since it's choreography was just unbelievable.

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I'm fairly certain that you can get a DVD off of E-bay. I really didn't have much of a problem snagging a copy since, well, piracy isn't legally frowned upon in my country. In the movie, you'll really want to kill Yuko yourself, especially when you see how the girls react to when the fat one got poisoned.

The manga and novel versions didn't have a fight between Mitsuko and Kiriyama; it was more like a huge pity party where we just want 'Mr.-I-just-got-shot-in-the-face-but-I-still-won't-die' to finish her off for the sake of our sanity. In the movie on the other hand, we get, in a span of five minutes: shooting, stabbing, screaming and some slight electrocution in a ware-house battle that will make you holla.

On a side note, I myself haven't read the novel version. How exactly did she die there? I heard her face blew up like a cherry bomb.

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No, she was pimped out by her mother in the movie. Or at elast, he tried and she pushed him down the stairs and killed him.

See, everyone is so dazzled byt he art is Endsong, but it's really not that good. The coloring is all way too air brushed and the poses really aren;t that good. They're all stiff and if you notice, he has one pose he really likes for his women (chest out, chin up, hip to the side in some swanky style) and a lot of his body drawings aren;t so great. In fact, most of the time, his women look like strippers and hookers.

The thing that really gets me, though is that the faces are so dead and unexpressive when they need to be really emotive. I don't get the sense of energy or action such as when the cuckoos scream 'watch out' or god forbid that panel where emma yells 'there!' in the danger room. It looks like she's reaching out to grab a baton in a moment of charismatic glee.

He's just good at making people look pretty (and all his blondes look the same) and lifelike (which isn't surprising since he uses live models) but not active or convincing.

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At least he draws a gorgeous Scott Summers. I really like Greg Land, and yeah, all of his blondes look alike, but I appreciate the odd sense of realism he gets. Besides, his Doctor Doom is freaking awesome.

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Hmm, Utsumi, the leader of the lighthouse girls. She was the last of them to die after the gunfight, and before she passed on, she angrily shouts at her friends' dead bodies, something like: "We could have all made it... stupid, we're so stupid!" I went, 'holy shit'; then 'I hope you die Yuko!!!'.

In the movie, Takako pretty much brutalizes Shiida, which is the exact opposite of what happened in the Manga. She lunges at him with a knife, drags him down, then stabs his balls The Japanese are crazy.

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Yumiko and Yukiko, the hilltop girls. The one in the manga where they were asking for Shuuya almost made me cry Kiriyama is a ratfink.

Hiroki was the most different, since in the movies he didn't know jack about martial arts, or the act of self-preservation for that matter.

Also, it's fun (geeky) to note that in every medium, that stupid-ass kevlar gets to save Kiriyama's life. In the film it saves him from Mistuko, while in the manga, from Hiroki. God I wanted him to die so bad.

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Finally some interest in comics on a forum that isnt full of ubergeeks

Off topic, I bought the Decimation M Set from Marvel and cant put down Generation M. Good graphic novel and the whole story was intriguing. As soon as a part ended I linked it to various aspects of differences. ie Blob now thin, yet in Uncanny he isnt

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Is your friend for real? God, I hate the idea, not because I'm some underground freak or whatever, but odds are, the US version is gonna' just fill the screen with beautiful 25 year olds from the WB. Hell, I can just imagine the cast of the O.C. killing each other...hmm, which admittedly isn't all that bad.

But BR is supposed to be social commentary, and a Japanese-centric one at that. What's the US message gonna be, 'it's hard to be a kid'?

What the hell, I hope they don't butcher it. AT least not like they will 'The Descent' from what I hear. God that is such an awesome movie.

At any rate, since I'm bored, I'm gonna start up with a US cast for the thing. The instructor needs to be Paul Heyman. Or quite possibly Elton John!

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I just think they won't be able to pull of the context and the culture commentary either. The movie is surreal in that Japanese kids 'don't do that' and yet they very much do. This would totally just be seen as 'kids today are violent' if it was American-made.

It's going to suck and it's going to be bikini babes with guns, basically.

I don't identify with 'geek'. I think I'm a 'dork'. Plus, I know how to make myself look good and I've got the tude to pull it all off. Geeks wilt, I trample through.

BTW, I'm almost done reading all of The Sandman and it is sooooo good. I think I might actually buy all of the trades.

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Excatly. That's the way i am too. I don't know why, but maybe my brain just decided to adapt and make as many connections as possible and it came out as sarcastic rapid-fire witicisms...

But I digress.

If we're going into manga, I have to say that I'm a romantic sucker for Naono Bohra's stuff. She's fantastic Maki Murakami, unfortunately, has gone nuts. At least she pushes the envelope...in weird ways.

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Haha, BR is the only manga I read, I am in no way an Otaku.

And actually, I never talk about comics outside forums like these, or with my elder bro. I don't have any friends who read comics, partially because I don't associate myself with the 'Spider-man fought Frank Castle in this issue and specific panel' crowd.

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Effortless: I dunno man, Darryl's a little too masculine to be an Emma Frost. In a perfect world, It'd be Charlize Theron, since in that world, Scarlet Johanssen is also gonna play Susan Storm - - but that's just me And like Mun says, one of BR's strengths is that you knew that those were 15 year olds on screen, getting stabbed, shot, and pummeled to death. I don't think a lot of backstage moms are gonna allow their little up and comers to go through that.

Mun: Oh yeah, I actually loved Eli Roth's direction of Hostel (Cabin Fever sucked mind you). There's even some homage to the Japanese film Suicide Club (excellent movie) in there, most notably the train scene. And Kou SHibasaki, known otherwise as Mitsuko SOuma, was actually too BUSY (she's a top face in Japan) to take the part that tarantino offered. Haha, take that America!!

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Can't really say exotic because I'm Asian...anyway if you blonde Angelina up, maybe she could do an Emma Frost. Actually, I want Luminum's side an who Frosty should be since over all of us here, he's the one who loves here the most

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You know, I always wanted Michelle Pfeiffer to be Emma. But now, Michelle's a bit too old...though I never say she isn't a bombshell, because she is. She's what I imagine her voice to sound like, not too deep but not too high and her eyes are a piercing blue.
I mean, TELL me that isn't The White Queen right there?

But I guess if we had to go with younger actresses, I'd say...well I have no idea, really.

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Originally Posted by MunSimpson

Michelle is so pretty and I think she is totally fitting (even though I really have no idea who Emma is, lol.) Michelle though is sexy for her age, and she's SUCH a talented actress. Her in White Oleander (sp?)... omg, I loved her.

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Okay, yes to the last one, but let's face it. Daryl really hasn't looked that good for a while. Even in her younger years, she would be too doe-eyed and sweet to be a convincing diamond sharp Emma. I think she has this look that's a bit too hard for the sharp and fine-faced Emma. Given, Daryl does look like Cassady's take on her (Astonishing) and it's almost uncanny (no pun intended) but I think that Michelle has that sharp, piercing look and that sinister sneer and wicked glint in her eye.

Mind Fucking You.

"I don't need to watch you, Frost. I can smell you."

Hard as diamonds.

A delicious thought we both can share...

As Headmistress of the Xavier Institute for Gifted Youngsters...

With Sophie.

There's that knowing gleam. She probably knows what you're thinking...

Oh wait, now she DOES know.

So tell me more, Scott, about the fascinating world of celibacy...

As child psychologist House of M Emma...

There can be only one...

By the way, have you guys read New X-Men # 28? Holy shit! Marvels. You were right! Emma is now my voice and my champion! She said everything I felt and she did it the way I would have. She bitch slapped that Carol danvers ( I love her, though) with her smoldering rage. I love you Emma!

Tony's still a tool. ;P

I'm also glad that the YA's and hopefully the Runaways are on our side.