no1

Don't go changing, to try and please me
You never let me down before
Don't imagine you're too familiar
And I don't see you anymore
I wouldn't leave you in times of trouble
We never could have come this far
I took the good times, I'll take the bad times
I'll take you just the way you are

Don't go trying some new fashion
Don't change the color of your hair
You always have my unspoken passion
Although I might not seem to care

I don't want clever conversation
I never want to work that hard
I just want someone that I can talk to
I want you just the way you are.

edit: "Joel wrote this song about his first wife, Elizabeth. He gave it to her as a birthday present. After 9 years of marriage, Joel divorced Elizabeth in 1982. "

Orcrist42

dontwantaname wrote:My mom heard the best the first week.
She hated it and made the audiologist dial it back. The audiologist tried her best to get mom back to that first setting, but it bother mom to actually hear.

That is why I think Poof should go for it. The longer you aren't hearing, the more comfortable you might get with no background noise.

I read as you get older the part of the brain that deals with background noise loses the ability to filter it out.

The whole hearing aids only work a few years and insurance won't pay is bullsh;t. It is the same with eyeglasses, but they aren't anywhere as expensive.

Why should people be disabled for no reason other than price.

It's a balancing act when you first get new aides. She was probably right in wanting to dial it back.

Three things have to happen.

1. You need to adjust the aides to compensate for the exact loss the individual has. It's usually a curve. I can't hear high pitches, some people can't hear low ones, etc. The only way to match that curve is through trial and error.

2. There are a lot of features you can adjust for different situations. You can filter background noise, set them to pick up music, transposition sound (for example, I can't hear high pitches, so the aides take dings and bells chiming and moves it to a lower pitch I can hear). The goal with this step is to bring out clarity of what you want to hear. Making everything louder often simply makes it harder to hear. There are about a 200 things the audiologist can tweak, but it's complicated and involves a lot of back and forth conversation.

3. Every time you adjust something you have to wait for the brain to adjust. That's why they recommend waiting a week between adjustments. The brain has you to get used to both the intensity and the new sounds. It has to place labels on things that you recognize because everything sounds different than it used to. Dialing it all the way up isn't always helpful, but you have to push as far as you can each time. It isn't uncommon to get headaches, I would take tylenol constantly for two days after every adjustment.

Adjusting hearing aides is like smearing colored paint over your glasses a little at a time in order to make everything look like a Van Gogh instead of a grey blob.

pooflady

Orcrist42 wrote:It's a balancing act when you first get new aides. She was probably right in wanting to dial it back.

Three things have to happen.

1. You need to adjust the aides to compensate for the exact loss the individual has. It's usually a curve. I can't hear high pitches, some people can't hear low ones, etc. The only way to match that curve is through trial and error.

2. There are a lot of features you can adjust for different situations. You can filter background noise, set them to pick up music, transposition sound (for example, I can't hear high pitches, so the aides take dings and bells chiming and moves it to a lower pitch I can hear). The goal with this step is to bring out clarity of what you want to hear. Making everything louder often simply makes it harder to hear. There are about a 200 things the audiologist can tweak, but it's complicated and involves a lot of back and forth conversation.

3. Every time you adjust something you have to wait for the brain to adjust. That's why they recommend waiting a week between adjustments. The brain has you to get used to both the intensity and the new sounds. It has to place labels on things that you recognize because everything sounds different than it used to. Dialing it all the way up isn't always helpful, but you have to push as far as you can each time. It isn't uncommon to get headaches, I would take tylenol constantly for two days after every adjustment.

Adjusting hearing aides is like smearing colored paint over your glasses a little at a time in order to make everything look like a Van Gogh instead of a grey blob.

Are you talking about you adjusting it all the way up? I thought most of them now weren't self-adjusting.

Orcrist42

(my laptop has been off for two days, hope you don't mind dredging up an old topic. )

You pay close attention and assume it will take at least 5 visits anyway.

Listen to what you can and can't hear and take notes. Sometimes after I get an adjustment, I would be able to hear Ver1 but not Ver3. Sometimes the TV is incomprehensible and other times less so. Sometimes I can't hear a thing in a loud room or certain sounds are too intense and others are muddled.

If your loss is a straight line (i.e. everything is just quieter), then they can just boost the volume across the board and it might work, but that is barely ever the case. Most people's loss is a curve across the frequencies.

dontwantaname

Orcrist42 wrote:(my laptop has been off for two days, hope you don't mind dredging up an old topic. )

You pay close attention and assume it will take at least 5 visits anyway.

Listen to what you can and can't hear and take notes. Sometimes after I get an adjustment, I would be able to hear Ver1 but not Ver3. Sometimes the TV is incomprehensible and other times less so. Sometimes I can't hear a thing in a loud room or certain sounds are too intense and others are muddled.

If your loss is a straight line (i.e. everything is just quieter), then they can just boost the volume across the board and it might work, but that is barely ever the case. Most people's loss is a curve across the frequencies.

She really only wants to hear the gossip. Nothing else. She never let the settings go back up to being able to hear right.

WE LURV YOU TOO! Dork!!!
No greater love is lost than that not shared.

pooflady

Orcrist42 wrote:(my laptop has been off for two days, hope you don't mind dredging up an old topic. )

You pay close attention and assume it will take at least 5 visits anyway.

Listen to what you can and can't hear and take notes. Sometimes after I get an adjustment, I would be able to hear Ver1 but not Ver3. Sometimes the TV is incomprehensible and other times less so. Sometimes I can't hear a thing in a loud room or certain sounds are too intense and others are muddled.

If your loss is a straight line (i.e. everything is just quieter), then they can just boost the volume across the board and it might work, but that is barely ever the case. Most people's loss is a curve across the frequencies.

I doubt if it's straight line. I can hear high tones much better than low ones. I don't hear the thunder like my husband does. On the other hand, he doesn't hear the turn signal when he's driving, but I do. And a lot of mine is also understanding as opposed to volume.

AZGman

KtCallista

pooflady wrote:I doubt if it's straight line. I can hear high tones much better than low ones. I don't hear the thunder like my husband does. On the other hand, he doesn't hear the turn signal when he's driving, but I do. And a lot of mine is also understanding as opposed to volume.

The understanding is probably because you are missing some of the softer tones, the hearing aids can pick those up a bit once you get them working for you.

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