21 September 2006 3:19 PM

Truth leads to riots

Read Peter Hitchens only in The Mail on Sunday

Budapest burst into flames after Hungary's Prime Minister Ferenc Gyurcsany confessed: "It was perfectly clear that what we were saying was completely untrue and in the meantime we did absolutely nothing for the past four years".

Hmmm. This is rather enjoyably honest. Were the rioters angry with their elected leader for admitting that he had fooled them all? Or were they angry with themselves for being so easily fooled?

I can think of another country where a large chunk of the electorate decided to be the willing dupes of an obviously fraudulent government, and then got angry - with that government, not themselves - after they had endured incompetence, folly and waste for nearly ten years.

Yes, you guessed. It's us. But we have far less excuse than the Hungarians, who had the right to be a bit exuberant and idealistic about their freedom after half a century of Communist dictatorship and iron-booted foreign occupation. We, by contrast, are supposed to be a mature, educated democracy. But it seems to me that the more democratic we get, the more immature and uneducated we become. Honestly, if David Cameron really is the flavour of the future then it will be true to say that we get the government we - richly -deserve.

Fool me once, as the saying goes, and shame on you. Fool me twice, and shame on me.

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You shouldn't be so hard on the Hungarians.

We Americans have always voted for elites. Once it's over, the elites are able to make the few leaders we vote for who DID NOT come from pampered backgrounds seem like horrible tyrants (i.e. hoover, bill clinton.

When the British public is tuned in to the X Factor,Love Island,Big Brother,I'm a Celeb,get me out of here,do they have Brain matter left, that is active enough to know when they have been shafted by Government,then of course there is allways the hatefull left(and there are many of them)in the media,BBC,Sky news,Channel 4,to make certain everthing is dumbed down enough for them,no hope for sure.

And thinking about stone age experiences. So many people are shallow thinkers it would do them well for more to take 4O day and nights in some remote place with a little oasis and a date palm or witchety grubs.
I jest not, the Australian Public Broadcaster are proud of having small audiences of mostly over 60's. If they can catch more then 5% of an audience that's alright, nothing to be ashamed of.
They've been reading Mien Kampf they have about how mediocre people can become powerful real fast if they just put the people to sleep - make them walking deads - docile and indifferent.

Lets get back to the topic - the riots in Hungary. I live in Slovakia. There are 'nationalist' issues between Slovakia and Hungary - word is that the riots in Budapest are 'rentamob', brought in by the Hungarian nationalist party. Actually, no-one is very interested in what was said by the Prime Minister... so he lied, that's what all politicians do.

But as Mr.Hitchens has written before there is a difference between democracy and liberty. I personally don’t believe you can have “democracy” without being allowed by the state to express any view. No one in a democracy has the”right” not to be offended. Only harmful actions should be unlawful.

It's not the fault of the electorate. Most people think more about football or soap operas than about politics. That's not meant as a criticism: most people are either too busy or not intelligent enough to think about these issues. Instead, once every few years during elections they take their opinions ready-made from the media. And that's where your criticisms should be directed.
Since 1997, the UK media has given up its duty to hold the establishment to account. Enormous issues, which would have brought down Tory governments, have been ignored. Issues like- widespread corruption (endemic since the very beginning); conspiring to wage aggressive war (a war crime at Nuremberg); the failure to investigate David Kelly's death (still no coroner's inquest!).
And on a more trivial note, why did no one in the media (with the honourable exception of Mary Ann Seighart) have the guts to out Charles Kennedy as an alcoholic. If you can't take on the Liberals, no wonder the press are so scared of Labour.

The truth always comes out in the wash. In other words, people are not as stupid as they pretend to be. I often wonder why Nu Labour has been alowed to get away with destroying this country without proper investigative and analytical critisism? From the day I woke up to the content of the "Forces of Conservatism" (Tony Blair, Bornmouth 1999) speech, I realised that he meant to eraze the Conservative values from our society permanently.

This of course means wipeing out ALL opposition to his policy decisions and his critics. In a way the overconfidence of the speeches delivery masked an announcement by a British Prime Minister declairing a hate fuelled pogrom against a people simply because of the way they thought. They will not tollerate the treasonous handover of this countries sovereignty to a foreign power. Mr Blair and his conspirators knew this from the start of the "Nu Labour" Project and knew what was involved. The "Project" is all about forcing the UK into European dependancy using stealth, repeated incompetance, communist loyal media elements, smear campaigns on a street level targetting known opponents families, post code health care, wars without end, the smearing of the USA and the destruction of NATO. I have also believed that British involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan was set up to demonstrate a British route/defeat to control public opinion in favour of a European Army loyal to Brussels not the Crown. This is a covert method of removing the Crowns powerbase without openly disbanding the regiments (Black Watch) which would fall into the definition of Treason.

The the on going Iraq/Afghanistan wars is a vital ingedient in the Project for many reasons:
1) By slavishly following Bush into a foolhardy war, Mr Blair plays on the 'Lap Dog' act to make it appear to the British public that he is under the thum of the US. And that the USA is responsible for the carnage that our Forces are suffering, thus turning public opinion savagely Anti-American, and an European alternative would be seen by the public as a 'liberation' from US tranny.

2) Afghanistan and Iraq could have been designed to be used as an example of a British Military defeat as well as generate a genuine terrorist threat in the UK. Also, a prolonged war against an enemy with vastly superior numbers means that the mortality rate will effectively remove all our veterans (laws of averages), again, adding weight to the "We cannot stand alone aguement" and fuelling the Anti Americanism in the UK promoting the European Army as our only alternative.

3) The terrorist threat has empowered a police state with the Crowns forces away to prevent a coup'. With a politicised Police and Civil service we now live in a Soviet styled block of fear, the police have already set the legal precident that state execution of 'terrorist suspects' is acceptable. The innocent Brazzilian could have been anyone of us.

If my suggestions hold merrit then it must be asked how the press has been stealthily gagged by political correctness. But the general vibe of the press has been to put the deliberate and planned actions of Mr Blair and his party of collaborators down to repeated incompetance. I would argue that repeated incompetance that gets the desired 'result' amounts to a deliberate action, and the word incompetance becomes the get out of jail free card for pre-meditated actions. Incompetance has powered a quiet revolution with murderous intent against the indigenous people of this country and has masked acts of Treason. Because to weaken us in time of war and put our people's lives in danger domestically and abroad for an political agenda is treachery.

"Subversion was re-defined in 1984 by the the home secretary, as 'activities which threaten the safety and well being of the State and which are intended to undermine and overthrow Parliamentary democracy by political, industrial or violent means" (quote from Chapman Pinchers Traitors). Almost all the Nu Labour Projects successes has been blamed on stupidity, but from uncontrolled immigration to the NHS, Afghanistan and Iraq etc etc, has been designed to cripple the county and throw us into the EU by force. This brings me to the Dodgy Dossier, Mr Blair personally consented by omission the acceptance of a arguement for war compiled from the Internet. I find it hard to believe that whilst millions of people we marching on parliament protesting the validity of it, that his own security services could'nt see it was bogus? Again, we are expected to believe that incompetance lead to the Iraq War, and not a deliberately fudged action designed to destroy the reputation of HM Forces and destroy NATO as part of European handover of power.
If the public were aware of the motivation behind the Project then there would be riots in the streets. But this is the intended result as once we are destroyed politically, militiarily and industrially, we will have lost the right to self govern.

Dear Mr.Hutchens,
You are right to show the British public the way to vote.However,the British public does not understand that they have voted out the right to vote as a coherent society quite some time ago.Democracy really mean to vote for the guy you personally know and vote for,not for the guy who shall take a considered view as to vote for a guy who promised to elect the guy who may or may not give the guy who actually elect the guy who shall do whatever he bloody likes to the country he rules because they voted for him.Am I making myself clair?
It is not really simple for the people of the country which created democracy, is it? But it must be bloody obvious for the Iraquies,isn't it? Or they are just the bunch of no-good morons hell-bent on killing everyone demanding democracy?
Can we please go back to the simplicity of monarchy?
Do you know what I mean?
No,you probably don't.
But neither do them.

It's funny really. When I heard this news story I started having visions of Blair and other ministers saying something similar while being interviewed by John Humphrys. I could see the government admitting that their whole approach to education, health and law and order had been wrong and misguided for years. I saw them apologizing to the nation and promising to mend their ways. Then the alarm clock went off, I woke up, and saw that nothing had changed.

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