oh wait there aren't enough real Collts fans to have an actual forum my bad. Ok I guess under the refuge act you can post here, but it's only because your fanbase cares less about the Colts than ours does (which is barely more than zero at this point). Btw, I hate when owners come out and get on former players (no matter how true) just sounds like sour grapes too me

I'm glad that somebody finally said what we've all known all along. Peyton is all about Peyton. Running up scores, artificially padding his stats. Whiny, chokes. Give me Eli over Peyton.

Gimme a glory hog who over performs because he wants the glory and puts too much pressure on himself which leads him to fail over a flukie, lucky moron anyday of the week. The only QBs I would consider over Peyton Manning when starting a franchise are Brady, Brees and Rodgers.

You don't have to like Peyton, but don't insult his talent. Eli Manning sucks.

oh wait there aren't enough real Collts fans to have an actual forum my bad. Ok I guess under the refuge act you can post here, but it's only because your fanbase cares less about the Colts than ours does (which is barely more than zero at this point). Btw, I hate when owners come out and get on former players (no matter how true) just sounds like sour grapes too me

I'm glad that somebody finally said what we've all known all along. Peyton is all about Peyton. Running up scores, artificially padding his stats. Whiny, chokes. Give me Eli over Peyton.

Gimme a glory hog who over performs because he wants the glory and puts too much pressure on himself which leads him to fail over a flukie, lucky moron anyday of the week. The only QBs I would consider over Peyton Manning when starting a franchise are Brady, Brees and Rodgers.

You don't have to like Peyton, but don't insult his talent. Eli Manning sucks.

Peyton does have more talent. I'm talking about winning. I'd rather win ugly than not win. Eli has won games in situations where Peyton has choked.

2. Irsay is a tool and an unprofessional moron announcing his opinion on something that has already happened.

Manning singlehandedly built that new stadium and made Irsay millions he otherwise would have never made in that hokey sports town.

That's a fact. Indy never could attract FAs because no one ever wanted to play there. It was a place of second chances or limited skill cast offs, mixed in with 1st rd busts for years and years until Marshall Faulk and then Manning. Getting Manning, dealing Faulk, was what set them on their course.

Irsay doesn't need to announce what the public already knew about Pay-Me-A-Ton.

Football players go anywhere for money. Basketball players, on the other hand, get their money and their wish to play where they wish if they are good enough.

I cannot remember the last time Indy sought and lost a FA of a caliber/talent that mattered. Given your vast knowledge on the subject, please share with us an example. And give me all of the examples of the 1st round busts you speak of. There weren't many. What there was, was poor front office management.

There is no "war" between Brady and Manning. Each are great in their own right. When you think of it, there will never, ever, be a concensus regarding which QB in all of NFL history is the GoAT. Statistics are one thing, look at Marino with no rings, and he is on the discussion.

Overall, these types of GoAT wars are contrived by the media and propped up by the fans of NFL football.

I'm glad that somebody finally said what we've all known all along. Peyton is all about Peyton. Running up scores, artificially padding his stats. Whiny, chokes. Give me Eli over Peyton.

People here love to say stuff like this, but I don't understand why.

Running up the score: After the teams can come back from amazing deficits. Scoring as many points as you can is generally a good idea.

Padding his stats: When should a QBs stats matter? First half only? Fourth quarter only if behind or winning by less than seven points? If it's seven minutes left in the fourth and they're up by 21, why would a 10 yard pass be artificial?

What I read into "the war of 18-12" is that Mannings # is 18 and Andrew Luck # is 12 ....not Tom Brady 12. They clash this week. The real ? is .....which one is UD6 rooting for?

Have a great day all ....

Of course the troll will be pulling for his hero, Peyton. But, he'll deny it, and say that he's still a Colts fan...that is...until they start losing. The Dog(gggggg) has even less credibility here than a crooked politician.

What I read into "the war of 18-12" is that Mannings # is 18 and Andrew Luck # is 12 ....not Tom Brady 12. They clash this week. The real ? is .....which one is UD6 rooting for?

Have a great day all ....

Of course the troll will be pulling for his hero, Peyton. But, he'll deny it, and say that he's still a Colts fan...that is...until they start losing. The Dog(gggggg) has even less credibility here than a crooked politician.

A crooked politician? Do you mean does this count ..... of course that depends on UD6 angle for starting his thread. Eh?

What I read into "the war of 18-12" is that Mannings # is 18 and Andrew Luck # is 12 ....not Tom Brady 12. They clash this week. The real ? is .....which one is UD6 rooting for?

Have a great day all ....

Of course the troll will be pulling for his hero, Peyton. But, he'll deny it, and say that he's still a Colts fan...that is...until they start losing. The Dog(gggggg) has even less credibility here than a crooked politician.

A crooked politician? Do you mean does this count ..... of course that depends on UD6 angle for starting his thread. Eh?

Is former President Bush giving his opinion on current President Barry, here?

I'm glad that somebody finally said what we've all known all along. Peyton is all about Peyton. Running up scores, artificially padding his stats. Whiny, chokes. Give me Eli over Peyton.

People here love to say stuff like this, but I don't understand why.

Running up the score: After the teams can come back from amazing deficits. Scoring as many points as you can is generally a good idea.

Padding his stats: When should a QBs stats matter? First half only? Fourth quarter only if behind or winning by less than seven points? If it's seven minutes left in the fourth and they're up by 21, why would a 10 yard pass be artificial?

Yes, it is the Offense's job to score points and the Defense's job to keep them from scoring. When the Patriots throw up a 50-burger, Belichick and Brady are piling on, padding numbers. When Peyton does it is a thing of wonder. This is the NFL, everyone should be able to floor it, not just Peyton.