I went Milliner. I don't think Fisher is the second best player in this draft. I don't even think he's top 5.

What don't you like about him?

It's not that I don't like him, I just like other guys more. I understand people value OTs higher than most positions, I do not. I value talent first and foremost._________________

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Never said they shouldn't sign a WR in FA, I said they shouldn't have overpayed for Tate. I'll be "that guy" that says I told you so when the defense isn't good enough to get this team into the Playoffs.

Same argument over and over again you don't win Super Bowls with Offense it always comes down to how good your defense really is we need to stop thinking with your OFFENSIVE HEARTS!

I agree with Louis its a DB all the way anything else other then Defense this pick is a wasted pick to me!

We can't keep blowing top 10 picks on OFFENSE year after year and ignore the talent levels on defense we lack!_________________You have to stand bye your convictions, sometimes you might stand alone but when your proven right its a great feeling!

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Same argument over and over again you don't win Super Bowls with Offense it always comes down to how good your defense really is we need to stop thinking with your OFFENSIVE HEARTS!

I agree with Louis its a DB all the way anything else other then Defense this pick is a wasted pick to me!

We can't keep blowing top 10 picks on OFFENSE year after year and ignore the talent levels on defense we lack!

Since 2009 we have spent more top 15 picks on defense then offense.

Why top 15? LK said top 10, and since 2009 we're even 1 and 1 with our picks. If you're going to change the argument, why not 1st round picks? Because it skews your argument?

2009:
1. Matthew Stafford QB
20. Brandon Pettigrew TE

2010:
2. Ndamukong Suh DT
28(?). Jahvid Best RB

2011:
13. Nick Fairley DT

2012:
23. Riley Reiff LT_________________

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Never said they shouldn't sign a WR in FA, I said they shouldn't have overpayed for Tate. I'll be "that guy" that says I told you so when the defense isn't good enough to get this team into the Playoffs.

Same argument over and over again you don't win Super Bowls with Offense it always comes down to how good your defense really is we need to stop thinking with your OFFENSIVE HEARTS!

I agree with Louis its a DB all the way anything else other then Defense this pick is a wasted pick to me!

We can't keep blowing top 10 picks on OFFENSE year after year and ignore the talent levels on defense we lack!

Since 2009 we have spent more top 15 picks on defense then offense.

Why top 15? LK said top 10, and since 2009 we're even 1 and 1 with our picks. If you're going to change the argument, why not 1st round picks? Because it skews your argument?

2009:
1. Matthew Stafford QB
20. Brandon Pettigrew TE

2010:
2. Ndamukong Suh DT
28(?). Jahvid Best RB

2011:
13. Nick Fairley DT

2012:
23. Riley Reiff LT

Or the second round, where the only defensive player we've taken has been Louis Delmas and every other one has been an offensive skill player. For what it's worth, I'd have no problem with that approach if it were producing wins. It worked just fine for the Colts in the 2000's._________________

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Same argument over and over again you don't win Super Bowls with Offense it always comes down to how good your defense really is we need to stop thinking with your OFFENSIVE HEARTS!

I agree with Louis its a DB all the way anything else other then Defense this pick is a wasted pick to me!

We can't keep blowing top 10 picks on OFFENSE year after year and ignore the talent levels on defense we lack!

Since 2009 we have spent more top 15 picks on defense then offense.

Why top 15? LK said top 10, and since 2009 we're even 1 and 1 with our picks. If you're going to change the argument, why not 1st round picks? Because it skews your argument?

Yes it does skew it. Whats your point?

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Never said they shouldn't sign a WR in FA, I said they shouldn't have overpayed for Tate. I'll be "that guy" that says I told you so when the defense isn't good enough to get this team into the Playoffs.

I went Milliner. I don't think Fisher is the second best player in this draft. I don't even think he's top 5.

What don't you like about him?

It's not that I don't like him, I just like other guys more. I understand people value OTs higher than most positions, I do not. I value talent first and foremost.

Sorry to beat a dead horse, but why don't you view Fisher as talented as others? I think in a draft class that doesn't have many elite prospects, Fisher is one of the three.

Not to me. I would take Star, Joeckel, Warmack long before Fisher. They are the elite prospects. After that you have some potential elite guys like Milliner and Jones. Then you have the next tier of guys, the guys who are being hyped up due to the position they play, there you find Jordan, Ansah and Fisher. I'm almost willing to include Vacarro in this group. They are talented, but wouldn't be top ten picks any other year._________________

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Never said they shouldn't sign a WR in FA, I said they shouldn't have overpayed for Tate. I'll be "that guy" that says I told you so when the defense isn't good enough to get this team into the Playoffs.