Family & Friends of Bipolar Support Group

This community is dedicated to parents, siblings, grandparents, other relatives and friends of someone who is Bipolar. The purpose of this community is to help families and friends develop greater patience and understanding, as well as maintain a positive, caring relationships with those diagnosed as Bipolar.

..Back..etc .. research..

While on my hiatus from BPFF. I received many messages of how much I was missed and etc. It made me stop and realize, I am still needed here I guess for the support and understanding..

While I was on my hiatus, I did some uber researching on many diff disorders. I come to realize my ex isn't bp after all {I think} he more or less fits BPD. as well as [I hate to toss this out there at anyone] but a true Psychopath.. [[ I am out to bash him or belittle him in anyway.. I am only out to try to understand him for the pure sake of our child together.. if it wasn't for us having a child together I wouldn't care to figure him out.. figuring him out is the only way I can learn how to handle him. if you want the history read my back post}}

But, it makes me wonder a lot.. if a mix of bp 1+2 = BPD?
ummm... I will have to dig into more research to find those factors out myself..

Why on earth are you doing diagnosis? A. It's utterly subjective &amp; vindictive in nature &amp; you are completely unqualified. B. It's the job of a pdoc.
Ok, you need support but it's going a little far for anyone to personally conduct an attempt to diagnose their ex partner? Can't you see that.

um, and as for your question..uh, a 'mix of BP 1 &amp; @' does not constitute BPD?? If you were serious?
You know they say people with borderline attract others with the same disorder (true)..so perhaps start with questioning own mental health/obsession with topic.

I think I may have once suggested to you that it seemed more like he had BPD than BP... and yes, he sounds like a true psychopath as well.

But, no, a mix of bp 1+2 most definitely does NOT = BPD.

BP of any version is a genetically predisposed illness of the brain that causes a chemical imbalance that effects moods and behavior. (not unlike type 1 diabetes causing an organ of the body to not process insulin properly, causing an imbalance.) It is NOT caused by, for example, bad parenting... or else there would be many more BPs out there. It is treatable with medication. It is not a &quot;personality disorder.&quot;

BPD is a personality disorder. (from about.com: There is strong evidence to support a link between distressing childhood experiences, particularly involving caregivers, and BPD. The types of experiences that may be associated with BPD include, but are not limited to, physical and sexual abuse, early separation from caregivers, emotional or physical neglect, emotional abuse, and parental insensitivity. Marsha Linehan, the developer of Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) for BPD, believes that BPD is caused by an interaction between biological factors and an &quot;emotionally invalidating&quot; childhood environment (or an environment where the child's emotional needs are not met).
It is important to remember, however, that not everyone who has BPD has had these types of childhood experiences (although a large number have). Further, even if a person does have these types of experiences, it does not mean that they will have BPD. )

I do think you on to something about him possibly being misdiagnosed... keep in mind that BPD does not = psychopath, many people with BPD have a conscience, remorse, etc., where as a true psychopath does not.)

(The only reason I know much about this is that my daughter did an outpatient DBT program for 2 months, 3 days a week, and now in the after care 1 day a week, and they had a weekly family education night, and there was much discussion about BPD vs BP, and as far as treatment goes, DBT can be helpful for both, but the causes are not the same. The DBT helps to break negative and/or suicidal or self harming thinking)

I do not know anything about BPD. I will check this out. That's why I'm here. To learn and understand so I don't end this relationship. I feel like our marriage is bipolar. It is extreme high and extreme lows.

Uh, you don't seem to follow, Classicgirl. A mix of two types of bipolar, an organic illness, does not constitute borderline, a behavioral disorder. Why are you attempting to navigate these ideas when the basics are so clearly unfamiliar to you?

Welcome back, Classic. I, too, don't know what BPD is either--as a few others have posted in their replies to your post above. I'll have to press on the link and find out for myself. I wish you well in your quest for more information and an increased understanding of your ex. This is a great site to vent, share and better understand BP and anything associated with it. Take care of you. (smile)

CG-Thanks so much for coming back. You have been missed. I do believe that Kmom was right on target with what she said and her BPD info, as always with any of her stuff, is spot on. I commend you for trying to reach out and better understand your ex in order to not only help your child you have with him, but to help him as well. Your thirst for this knowledge and understanding equal that of what I have gone/going through and I sympathize with you in trying to better understand our lots in life.
Lou-There's simply no need whatsoever for you to go after someone who is in search of information and knowledge. If you want to help, believe me your opinions are well respected. Having a person who not only has dealt with BP from a family perspective as well as on her own is invaluable. But it is important to remember that this is a place where people should not feel persecuted for asking questions and trying to understand. You may feel that you or your family are slighted b/c of her method of asking, but to my understanding, she simply was trying to better comprehend her situation and make it a better one, mostly for her child. Please notice that she prefaces this with &quot;I think&quot; and is looking for answers some might have to connecting factors. The people that come on here are desperate for help b/c their loved ones are ill and they cannot connect with them as they did before. I have ben there myself when I didn't know where to turn to and what to do. Thank goodness I found this place! There is no harm in someone asking questions. The harm comes when you are blatantly calling people names and persecuting them personally b/c of their illness, or on the flip side, if you are telling them that THEY are ill for asking the question in the first place.
Again, I don't want to ruffle feathers. All I want is to have this be a safe haven where people can feel free to not be afraid to talk about their issues and ask the questions that plague them on a daily basis. There is no need for us to fight amongst ourselves. We are here to work together for better understanding overall and I hope that can continue.

I just want to clarify that BPD and BP have some crossover symptoms and behaviors, it is the root cause of the symptoms (in addition to root cause of possible mania) that is an important difference, because BPD is not so much a chemical imbalance, and as such does not respond to the medications that BP responds to.
It takes a psychiatrist and an extensive family history and delving into family/childhood experiences, as well as noting response to medication or lack of response for a professional to diagnose correctly, let alone for any of us to guess.

well said, Kuup..I do hear you. I guess it's when the idea of bipolar generally being a case of bad not mad is repeatly posited...Or this unsophisticated conflating of bad ex+evil+BP= all bp's could be evil psychopaths? It is going too far is all &amp; fails to recognise that people are themselves &amp; then have the illness..there is a distinction...it's like extrapolating that all vegans are bitches or something..if you get me- silly, tiresome- and when it has been repeatedly hinted at over months- offensive. If you TRULY believe something like that- you really ought to go speak to a Professional &amp; get your misguided opinions sorted out. Mad does not necessarily equate bad.That's all. Enough.

Back atcha Lou. Most of these people are not so much mad at the person, but whatever disorder inhabits them. I love my wife no matter what. I am never mad at the person with the disorder, I am mad at the disorder itself. However, if you make an ass out of yourself and blame the disorder, then you are the one at fault.

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