I would have thought there would have been more leaks by now. Usually, Gamescom info leaks beforehand.

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It really is amazing when you consider how bad Sony was with leaks for nearly the entire PS3 generation, but somehow with the PS4, they've been Fort Knox at keeping stuff secret. MS on the other hand has been leaking a lot.

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I would like to hear about Agent and it would be awesome if they take back the whole paying to play online thing!

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Having that lineup would make Gamescom perfect. Especially The Last Guardian. I don't want them to take away pay to play online, though, because I'm liking all of the streaming capabilities and better infrastructure. That money has to come from somewhere.

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I would like to hear about Agent and it would be awesome if they take back the whole paying to play online thing!

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Having that lineup would make Gamescom perfect. Especially The Last Guardian. I don't want them to take away pay to play online, though, because I'm liking all of the streaming capabilities and better infrastructure. That money has to come from somewhere.

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I would like to hear about Agent and it would be awesome if they take back the whole paying to play online thing!

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Having that lineup would make Gamescom perfect. Especially The Last Guardian. I don't want them to take away pay to play online, though, because I'm liking all of the streaming capabilities and better infrastructure. That money has to come from somewhere.

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You don't need PS Plus for those features though, so why?

Anyway, I agree, that line up would be amazing!

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This is true, but why do you think we need to pay? Where do you think that money is going? Servers, Gaikai, game streaming, faster and improved infrastructure... We have to pay for these services. PSN was very bare bones. With more capabilities come cost. I don't mind paying for it. Hell, I had PS+ on PS3 just for the games and deals.

I will eventually get PS Plus, but because I want but rather because it is the only way I could play my darn games online, I hated Xbox Live for the same reason, the fact that I couldn't play online kind of forced me into getting it, and I feel forced to do so again...

If Sony fumbles at this show they could potentially lose their lead. Microsoft has confirmed they are showing more games and as of now they have shown more than Sony.

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So, because Microsoft says they are showing more games you believe them, Sony says the same thing and you doubt them. What exactly has Microsoft done to make people have that much faith in them after E3? I'm excited to see what Helldivers is, and hopefully some Order gameplay as I have high hopes for that game.

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All I am saying is Sony has shown less games than Microsoft but claims to have more in development. Now is the time to show it. The one thing Microsoft has come through on so far is exclusive content. Sony can seal the deal now.

If Sony fumbles at this show they could potentially lose their lead. Microsoft has confirmed they are showing more games and as of now they have shown more than Sony.

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So, because Microsoft says they are showing more games you believe them, Sony says the same thing and you doubt them. What exactly has Microsoft done to make people have that much faith in them after E3? I'm excited to see what Helldivers is, and hopefully some Order gameplay as I have high hopes for that game.

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All I am saying is Sony has shown less games than Microsoft but claims to have more in development. Now is the time to show it. The one thing Microsoft has come through on so far is exclusive content. Sony can seal the deal now.

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One thing Sony has is a library of games. Sony has teased Deep Down, The Dark Sorceror, DriveClub, Infamous Second Son, Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack, The Order 1886, and The Witness. That might not seem like a lot of games, but it's a good start off and enough to get somebody excited. They say that got more, then I pretty much believe them. You're speaking as if Sony isn't going to come prepared at all and just say PS4 announcement, we're done.

So, because Microsoft says they are showing more games you believe them, Sony says the same thing and you doubt them. What exactly has Microsoft done to make people have that much faith in them after E3? I'm excited to see what Helldivers is, and hopefully some Order gameplay as I have high hopes for that game.

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All I am saying is Sony has shown less games than Microsoft but claims to have more in development. Now is the time to show it. The one thing Microsoft has come through on so far is exclusive content. Sony can seal the deal now.

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One thing Sony has is a library of games. Sony has teased Deep Down, The Dark Sorceror, DriveClub, Infamous Second Son, Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack, The Order 1886, and The Witness. That might not seem like a lot of games, but it's a good start off and enough to get somebody excited. They say that got more, then I pretty much believe them. You're speaking as if Sony isn't going to come prepared at all and just say PS4 announcement, we're done.

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Keeping my expectations in check so I won't be disappointed. I never know what to expect with Sony. Plus they only have an hour to talk about 3 platforms. Unless the ignore one or two of them then they don't have enough time to announce all the stuff you guys are predicting.

All I am saying is Sony has shown less games than Microsoft but claims to have more in development. Now is the time to show it. The one thing Microsoft has come through on so far is exclusive content. Sony can seal the deal now.

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One thing Sony has is a library of games. Sony has teased Deep Down, The Dark Sorceror, DriveClub, Infamous Second Son, Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack, The Order 1886, and The Witness. That might not seem like a lot of games, but it's a good start off and enough to get somebody excited. They say that got more, then I pretty much believe them. You're speaking as if Sony isn't going to come prepared at all and just say PS4 announcement, we're done.

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Keeping my expectations in check so I won't be disappointed. I never know what to expect with Sony. Plus they only have an hour to talk about 3 platforms. Unless the ignore one or two of them then they don't have enough time to announce all the stuff you guys are predicting.

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Trying to find some conformation, but some places are reporting that Sony's conference is 3 hours long.

One thing Sony has is a library of games. Sony has teased Deep Down, The Dark Sorceror, DriveClub, Infamous Second Son, Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack, The Order 1886, and The Witness. That might not seem like a lot of games, but it's a good start off and enough to get somebody excited. They say that got more, then I pretty much believe them. You're speaking as if Sony isn't going to come prepared at all and just say PS4 announcement, we're done.

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Keeping my expectations in check so I won't be disappointed. I never know what to expect with Sony. Plus they only have an hour to talk about 3 platforms. Unless the ignore one or two of them then they don't have enough time to announce all the stuff you guys are predicting.

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Trying to find some conformation, but some places are reporting that Sony's conference is 3 hours long.

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That would make sense since someone else said they heard this is sonys last big ps4 conference before launch. Plus if they ignore vita again then they will get a lot of flack.

Not expecting much in terms of new games. Maybe Media Molecules new game, maybe something else.

But looking forward to seeing how some already announced games have progressed, looking forward to seeing the OS more hands on (hopefully), obviously psyched for a date (hopefully October as has been rumored).

Not expecting much in terms of new games. Maybe Media Molecules new game, maybe something else.

But looking forward to seeing how some already announced games have progressed, looking forward to seeing the OS more hands on (hopefully), obviously psyched for a date (hopefully October as has been rumored).

EDIT: FAlse Alarm, the conference is tomorrow!!

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I'm with you on the date and hoping it's October. Would be nice to see the OS being used to get more of a look at it. I'm expecting at least 3 new games to be announced. (Possible surprise launch title)

You just don't get it. For about 5 days I've thought the presser was on Monday.....so I've been trying to make it through the weekend, and my hype is at max capacity......and Kyle killed it with one post.

I really don't expect too many new games if rumors from Gaf are true. Maybe a couple. But I heard we'll get a good look at the OS, and that's a big one for me.

Not expecting much in terms of new games. Maybe Media Molecules new game, maybe something else.

But looking forward to seeing how some already announced games have progressed, looking forward to seeing the OS more hands on (hopefully), obviously psyched for a date (hopefully October as has been rumored).

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We differ. I think Sony needs to show lots and lots of games. They only showed one new exclusive at e3

You just don't get it. For about 5 days I've thought the presser was on Monday.....so I've been trying to make it through the weekend, and my hype is at max capacity......and Kyle killed it with one post.

I really don't expect too many new games if rumors from Gaf are true. Maybe a couple. But I heard we'll get a good look at the OS, and that's a big one for me.

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Least you only have a day to go instead of another week. This time tomorrow, you can get that hype bar right back up and get them fingers ready to post, read, and watch. I've been craving a release date more than anything. Been thinking about it all weekend. My girl is sick of me saying, "You know what day Tuesday is don't you, the day I find out when the PS4 is coming out."

Not expecting much in terms of new games. Maybe Media Molecules new game, maybe something else.

But looking forward to seeing how some already announced games have progressed, looking forward to seeing the OS more hands on (hopefully), obviously psyched for a date (hopefully October as has been rumored).

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We differ. I think Sony needs to show lots and lots of games. They only showed one new exclusive at e3

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Prepare for disappointment. E3 is the place for big game reveals. However, we are supposed to see Media Molecules new game.

I really don't think we need to see a ton of games. At launch you'll have the few Sony exclusives, plus Ass Creed, BF4, COD Ghosts, Fifa14 and Watch Dogs. That is games enough to last until inFamous. I do agree they could at least announce a game or two to show the legs going beyond inFamous. But there is still TGS, and Spike Video Game Awards where Naughty Dog likes to announce stuff.

I'm more interested in getting a more intimate intro to the system with Gamescom.

Not expecting much in terms of new games. Maybe Media Molecules new game, maybe something else.

But looking forward to seeing how some already announced games have progressed, looking forward to seeing the OS more hands on (hopefully), obviously psyched for a date (hopefully October as has been rumored).

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We differ. I think Sony needs to show lots and lots of games. They only showed one new exclusive at e3

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At the time they didn't need to do much more being what Microsoft had done to themselves. All they had to say is NO DRM and it was over. Things have changed since then, but seeing what the PS4 can do is still something that needs to be laid out tomorrow. I want to see the no loading times, the interface switch between screen, and a more dimensional layout since it's getting really close to launch.

Not expecting much in terms of new games. Maybe Media Molecules new game, maybe something else.

But looking forward to seeing how some already announced games have progressed, looking forward to seeing the OS more hands on (hopefully), obviously psyched for a date (hopefully October as has been rumored).

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We differ. I think Sony needs to show lots and lots of games. They only showed one new exclusive at e3

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Prepare for disappointment. E3 is the place for big game reveals. However, we are supposed to see Media Molecules new game.

I really don't think we need to see a ton of games. At launch you'll have the few Sony exclusives, plus Ass Creed, BF4, COD Ghosts, Fifa14 and Watch Dogs. That is games enough to last until inFamous. I do agree they could at least announce a game or two to show the legs going beyond inFamous. But there is still TGS, and Spike Video Game Awards where Naughty Dog likes to announce stuff.

I'm more interested in getting a more intimate intro to the system with Gamescom.

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I am going to be very disappointed if that's the case. Sony is seriously slacking in this department which is not like them at all. They have the price but the competition has more games shown. They need to show more games and finish the task.

I am going to be very disappointed if that's the case. Sony is seriously slacking in this department which is not like them at all. They have the price but the competition has more games shown. They need to show more games and finish the task.

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Sony owns a lot more first party studios than MS, so I wouldn't worry about games not being made.

If you're Sony, who has what is said to be a HUGE lead in pre-orders based on what's already known and will more than likely release first, you don't blow your load announcing all your games early like MS did. There will be a time after the holidays where sales and hype will start to decrease, so what do you do to keep people interested? Announce games when that happens to get the hype back up.

And MS showing more games is kind of misleading considering Halo and Project Spark won't be out for another year or more (all they showed was a CG trailer of Halo), and Titanfall probably won't hit till tail end of Q1 2014. And Black Tusk game longer than that.

MS blew their load right off the bat by pretty much announcing everything they have. Sony will have legs.

EDIT: THat's not to say I wouldn't like to see more games announced like you want, I just don't expect it, nor do I think they need to right now.

I am going to be very disappointed if that's the case. Sony is seriously slacking in this department which is not like them at all. They have the price but the competition has more games shown. They need to show more games and finish the task.

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Sony owns a lot more first party studios than MS, so I wouldn't worry about games not being made.

If you're Sony, who has what is said to be a HUGE lead in pre-orders based on what's already known and will more than likely release first, you don't blow your load announcing all your games early like MS did. There will be a time after the holidays where sales and hype will start to decrease, so what do you do to keep people interested? Announce games when that happens to get the hype back up.

And MS showing more games is kind of misleading considering Halo and Project Spark won't be out for another year or more (all they showed was a CG trailer of Halo), and Titanfall probably won't hit till tail end of Q1 2014. And Black Tusk game longer than that.

MS blew their load right off the bat by pretty much announcing everything they have. Sony will have legs.

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We will see. I think Sony is too comfortable riding on microsofts mistakes. Having good legs is very important but outside of infamous they are kinda lacking. We will see tomorrow I guess.

Aye, most of Microsoft's exclusives are through partnerships, not their own studios. So even if Dead Rising 3 is X1 exclusive, there's no guarantee DR4 won't be multiplatform. Also, unless Ryse performs well, it'll probably be a one-off with Crytek being mainly a multiplatform developer. Meanwhile, almost all of Sony's exclusives are being made by studios they own, so even if met with moderate success, we'll still see more potentially great exclusives from those studios.

I'm not even sure why they showed the Black Tusk thing. Looked like a 10 second clip from Splinter Cell. If that is all they had to show it definitely has to be early in development.

I am going to be very disappointed if that's the case. Sony is seriously slacking in this department which is not like them at all. They have the price but the competition has more games shown. They need to show more games and finish the task.

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To be fair if they had went the way MS went with 360 and gave very little first party support for PS3 this year, there launch line up would be better. They could have easily held back GoW:Ascension, Beyond Two Souls, Dragon Crown, GT6, Ni No Kuni, Sly Thieves in Time and even the Last of Us. Just one or two of those would have made a big difference in how people see their launch line up.

We will see. I think Sony is too comfortable riding on microsofts mistakes. Having good legs is very important but outside of infamous they are kinda lacking. We will see tomorrow I guess.

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I'm not gonna pretend I know Sony's mentality. I don't think they were expecting MS to just gift wrap them a successful launch which they did.

Anyways, I'm with you. I hope we see more than 1 or 2 games announced (like I said, we'll see MM new game for sure)......but I'm just saying, don't expect it. I guess the only thing we differ on is that you think Sony need to show more games now, and I don't. They already have huge momentum on stuff they've already shown.