"All you have to do is to look at Northern Ireland, [...] to see how seriously the religious folks take "thou shall not kill. The more devout they are, the more they see murder as being negotiable." George Carlin

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Librium Arcana, Where Gamers Play!
Nitram, slightly high on cough syrup: Do you know you're beautiful?
Me: Nope, that's why I have you around to tell me.
Nitram: You -are- beautiful. Anyone tries to tell you otherwise kill them."A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" -- Leonard Nimoy, last Tweet

A minute's thought suggests that the very idea of this is stupid. A more detailed examination raises the possibility that it might be an answer to the question "how could the Germans win the war after the US gets involved?" - Captain Seafort, in a thread proposing a 1942 'D-Day' in Quiberon Bay

I do. The vampire template can only be applied to creatures with at least five hit dice, and that's not going to be most random dwarves.

Technically those could be spawn, it's not like the current party would have the knowledge to tell the difference between true vamps and spawn at a glance. Ironically, Durkon might have had this knowledge and been useful here.

Is it me, or did the priest's hammer do nothing but annoy the vampire spawn?

Librium Arcana, Where Gamers Play!
Nitram, slightly high on cough syrup: Do you know you're beautiful?
Me: Nope, that's why I have you around to tell me.
Nitram: You -are- beautiful. Anyone tries to tell you otherwise kill them."A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" -- Leonard Nimoy, last Tweet

Turning in 3.5E does have a d20 roll to see how powerful (in hit dice vs. cleric's level) the turned undead may be, but a 20 isn't "automatic success", in the sense you're thinking, Ralin. The problem is that the table ranges from cleric's level - 4 HD (at a roll of 0 or lower) to cleric's level + 4 HD (roll of 22 or higher). The cleric isn't high-level, so even with a nice 20, with a stereotypically mediocre charisma modifier (she's a dwarf), she's still only going to turn 6 or 7 HD of vampire spawn. They have 4 HD each. Not a winning strategy when surrounded by at least 14 vampire spawn.

Let them kill one of the others for levels, turn more vampires and then revive the fallen?

A minute's thought suggests that the very idea of this is stupid. A more detailed examination raises the possibility that it might be an answer to the question "how could the Germans win the war after the US gets involved?" - Captain Seafort, in a thread proposing a 1942 'D-Day' in Quiberon Bay

Interesting note, this Forcecage looks to be ~20ft square. The spell rules for 3.0 and 3.5 allow a 20ft cube of half-inch spaced bars, or a 10ft solid one, so it seems like OOTS-verse uses a slightly different version of the spell. Otherwise picking the spawn off through the barrier would be fairly trivial.

Interesting note, this Forcecage looks to be ~20ft square. The spell rules for 3.0 and 3.5 allow a 20ft cube of half-inch spaced bars, or a 10ft solid one, so it seems like OOTS-verse uses a slightly different version of the spell. Otherwise picking the spawn off through the barrier would be fairly trivial.

They would turn to mist and go through the bars, and then they'd have the exact same problem.

Interesting note, this Forcecage looks to be ~20ft square. The spell rules for 3.0 and 3.5 allow a 20ft cube of half-inch spaced bars, or a 10ft solid one, so it seems like OOTS-verse uses a slightly different version of the spell. Otherwise picking the spawn off through the barrier would be fairly trivial.

V and others have used Force Cage before in the strip, and it's been different for each situation, IE: during V's Temptation To Darkness, the Black Dragon trapped V in a small, one-person 'cage'. So, So I'm guessing Force Cage falls to "will of caster" in Stick-Verse.

Librium Arcana, Where Gamers Play!
Nitram, slightly high on cough syrup: Do you know you're beautiful?
Me: Nope, that's why I have you around to tell me.
Nitram: You -are- beautiful. Anyone tries to tell you otherwise kill them."A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP" -- Leonard Nimoy, last Tweet

Interesting note, this Forcecage looks to be ~20ft square. The spell rules for 3.0 and 3.5 allow a 20ft cube of half-inch spaced bars, or a 10ft solid one, so it seems like OOTS-verse uses a slightly different version of the spell. Otherwise picking the spawn off through the barrier would be fairly trivial.

They would turn to mist and go through the bars, and then they'd have the exact same problem.

Can Spawn do that? I was under the impression from #1085 that not even all the full-blown Vampires could do that, or at least only one had tried.

Interesting note, this Forcecage looks to be ~20ft square. The spell rules for 3.0 and 3.5 allow a 20ft cube of half-inch spaced bars, or a 10ft solid one, so it seems like OOTS-verse uses a slightly different version of the spell. Otherwise picking the spawn off through the barrier would be fairly trivial.

V and others have used Force Cage before in the strip, and it's been different for each situation, IE: during V's Temptation To Darkness, the Black Dragon trapped V in a small, one-person 'cage'. So, So I'm guessing Force Cage falls to "will of caster" in Stick-Verse.

Good point. My only memory of the black dragon instance was something spherical, maybe, or something.

Interesting note, this Forcecage looks to be ~20ft square. The spell rules for 3.0 and 3.5 allow a 20ft cube of half-inch spaced bars, or a 10ft solid one, so it seems like OOTS-verse uses a slightly different version of the spell. Otherwise picking the spawn off through the barrier would be fairly trivial.

They would turn to mist and go through the bars, and then they'd have the exact same problem.

Can Spawn do that? I was under the impression from #1085 that not even all the full-blown Vampires could do that, or at least only one had tried.

Vampire spawn can take gaseous form as a standard action, at will, and moving with perfect maneuverability. They can also use domination as a standard action (probably no good against the PCs' will saves, but possibly bad for the dwarf NPCs), and have fast-healing (+2hp per round, automatically assumes gaseous form on 0 hp). All assuming standard 3.5E. These may not be that, as the vampire spawn that made it in is clearly reduced to 0 hp, but does not assume gaseous form. However, vampires have the same ability (automatic), so maybe it was bypassed by Roy's special attack. Ordinarily, vampires/vampire spawn can only be destroyed by sunlight, stake, running water, or esoteric ritualistic stuff.