Monday, 14 September 2015

Will Corbyn swear the oath?

The leader of the opposition has always been invited to join the Privy Council, if not already a member. But taking the title 'Right Honourable' also involves a solemn undertaking. Will Corbyn be prepared to swear the oath, or will he try to lead the opposition from outside the Privy Council? Today may tell.

I do swear by Almighty God to be a true and faithful Servant unto The
Queen’s Majesty as one of Her Majesty’s Privy Council. I will not know
or understand of any manner of thing to be attempted, done or spoken
against Her Majesty’s Person, Honour, Crown or Dignity Royal, but I
will let and withstand the same to the uttermost of my power, and
either cause it to be revealed to Her Majesty Herself, or to such of Her
Privy Council as shall advertise Her Majesty of the same. I will in
all things to be moved, treated and debated in Council, faithfully and
truly declare my Mind and Opinion, according to my Heart and
Conscience; and will keep secret all matters committed and revealed unto me, or that shall be treated of secretly in Council. And if any of the
said Treaties or Counsels shall touch any of the Counsellors I will
not reveal it unto him but will keep the same until such time as, by the
consent of Her Majesty or of the Council, Publication shall be made
thereof. I will to my uttermost bear Faith and Allegiance to the
Queen’s Majesty; and will assist and defend all civil and temporal
Jurisdictions, Pre-eminences, and Authorities, granted to Her Majesty
and annexed to the Crown by Acts of Parliament, or otherwise, against
all Foreign Princes, Persons, Prelates, States, or Potentates. And
generally in all things I will do as a faithful and true Servant ought
to do to Her Majesty so help me God.

"defend all civil and temporal Jurisdictions, Pre-eminences, and Authorities, granted to Her Majesty and annexed to the Crown by Acts of Parliament, or otherwise, against all Foreign Princes, Persons, Prelates, States, or Potentates."

.. has already been broken by Heath, Thatcher, Blair, Cameron. The irony is the Queen has comitted treason against the country by signing the EU bills herself. So not great shakes if Corbyn doesn't accept the oath. AT least here ould be honesty.

My first reaction was no Corbyn won't. But then he has been duplicitous about his contacts with/support of IRA, Hamas, Hezbollah and varied anti-Israel and holocaust denying extremists, so yes he will be two faced and take the oath, but not mean it.

viscFUCK OFFOur Gracious Majesty, by long custom & practice (note) will not oppose or refuse to sign any passed-by-both-houses Bill set before her.No monarch since Anna has done so.NOW GROW UP.

As for the possible or actual treason of some of theppast PM's that is another matter.(note: i.e. It is part of the Constitution she is sworn to uphold, fuckwit. )

Actually, I hope he sticks to his guns & refuses ... because he's screwed, at that point & onwards.He will be "Out of the loop" - & that is vitally important.I do note that an atheist is allowed to take the oath, by varying the last words, as one can in a court of Law, & I am glad that it is so, speaking as an atheist Monarchist.HINT: The system ain't broke - don't fix it

Tingey.Your gracious majesty took a very similar oath regarding upholding the laws and customs of her realm against foreign powers and she has broken that oath. She could have refused to sign without an honest vote by her subjects. She knew what she was signing then when none of her subjects had been given the real information.Now do try to be polite. You only make yourself look a twat with all the shouting and swearing.

Mr TingeyIf that's the way you respond to people with whom you disagree then I suggest you are the one who needs to grow up.For what it's worth, I agree with Mikebravo. Whilst no monarch has refused to sign an Act of Parliament since the reign of Queen Anne, our present Queen could have used her (supposedly) considerable influence on successive prime ministers to encourage a referendum.