Re: FYI: New SAAS pricing posted

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OpenERP Master

- 07/08/2015 23:24:22

I just checked the new pricing, and it can get high. I think the pricing model isnt quite right. Netsuite charges a license fee per user, but they do not charge a fee per module. They have fixed pricing for extended features. I think if you have only 5 modules and many users, the pricing could get quite expensive. I think there should be a similar approach, base pricing per user and then fixed price per module

Having the luxury of developing on both Netsuite and Odoo, I do agree that Odoo is substantially cheaper than Netsuite, however, at this time Netsuite accounting offering is far superior to Odoo and there is no comparison. Netsuite significantly lacks in warehouse management, and some aspects are a complete joke. Not to derail the conversation too much, but I still think Odoo has a ways to go to compare against that software product.

For 2 big companies, I actually created a warehouse management system for Netsuite using Odoo. It works really great. But Netsuite can't match the flexibility of Odoo in terms of your ability to add features or just make it do something else.

I worked on some Netsuite instances, where the bill for a year was 100,000 usd

On 07/08/2015 09:48 AM, Wouter Tebbens wrote:
> wow, this is surprising! But that's not competitive at all! Hmm, I
> wonder how Odoo SA will be able to sustain itself this way.
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> * strength: from the founders of Odoo and publisher of the Core
> * weakness: most expensive Odoo SAAS offering in the market
I do not agree.
There are only a few ERP SaaS product on the market and most of them are
very lightweight, not comparable with Odoo. The main one, Netsuite, has
prices that are around $120 per user with extra implementation costs.
Most of the time when we are in competition with Netsuite, we have made
offers that are 1/3 of the Netsuite price.
You can find lightweight SaaS product that just do one or two app. But
if you need something complete, Odoo is very unexpensive for the value.
If you need a serious product (magento, sugarcrm, salesforce, ...) they
are usually more expensive than Odoo for just one app!
Don't forget also that our price includes implementation services! A
deedicated project manager, unlimited support, customization of screens,
... For such a service, it's very unexpensive IMHO.
> * weakness: can't integrate community modules
Is it a weakness? Yes and no.
For very small customers, it is not. They prefer stability, low price,
evolution and super clean usability than extra features. Aside for
integrations (magento, shipping connectors, 3PL, payments providers), we
rarely have a customer we can not implement out-of-the-box.
For bigger customers, they need community modules. That's why we think
it's better to address >20 users with partners (on premise) and * weakness: pricing may change - as shown in recent history
It's not a weakness for customers as customers will always benefit from
the pricing they signed for. (unless we decrease our price)
> How can this be related to the licensing changes? Does this feed our
> worst nightmares?
No relation since license change only impact on premise customers and
our price is unchanged for on premise customers.
Thanks,
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Fabien
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> On 08-07-15 18:23, Ray Carnes - Implementation Strategy wrote:
>> I missed that change…
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>> It does seem that “forever” didn’t last as long as many people
>> understand the word to mean!
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>> *From:*Kurt Haselwimmer [mailto:kurt@hertford-developments.co.uk
>> <mailto:kurt@hertford-developments.co.uk>]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 08, 2015 12:12 AM
>> *To:* Community
>> *Subject:* Re: FYI: New SAAS pricing posted
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>> Ray,
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>> apart from the "two users free forever" offer !
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>> Kurt
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>> Dr. Kurt Haselwimmer
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>> Director
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