*Socially manufactured in every society that has survived the millennia. Ergo there may something to this concept. It's frustrating for us males, but that doesn't mean it's frustrating the survival of the fittest. The town bicycle has also stood the test of time, but could be on its way out if Earth becomes a caliphate as present demographic paces portend.

Women may be more sexually omnivorous than men, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're as hungry.

In other words, your wife wants sex. Just not always with you. Sometimes, with the sausage you just snarfed down. Or the babysitter. Or the dog. And the gardener. And, or, probably all of them, but not at the same time. Not like you.

Women are hypergoumuse by nature. They want better than themselves and the established norm. If you make $140,000 a year she will want to fark a guy who makes $150,000. You have a house she wants a mansion. You have a boat she will want a yaught, and so and so on.

Hell look at the results of the survey at ok Cupid. Women stated that 80% of men are of below average attractiveness. That is mathematically impossible yet here we are.

Don't waste your time on them, focus on your career, your goals and your happiness. Women are like buses, there is another on in 10 minutes.

Hey_shut_up:Women are hypergoumuse by nature. They want better than themselves and the established norm. If you make $140,000 a year she will want to fark a guy who makes $150,000. You have a house she wants a mansion. You have a boat she will want a yaught, and so and so on.

Hell look at the results of the survey at ok Cupid. Women stated that 80% of men are of below average attractiveness. That is mathematically impossible yet here we are.

Don't waste your time on them, focus on your career, your goals and your happiness. Women are like buses, there is another on in 10 minutes.

What I find funny on online dating sites is how it makes the unattractive women feel so attractive (due to the ratio of men:women on those sites). The sea mammals with 4 kids even have profiles saying they want a tall, rich, athletic, good looking guy. Makes me laugh hard, because a fat ass should not be demanding an athletic guy.

*Socially manufactured in every society that has survived the millennia. Ergo there may something to this concept. It's frustrating for us males, but that doesn't mean it's frustrating the survival of the fittest. The town bicycle has also stood the test of time, but could be on its way out if Earth becomes a caliphate as present demographic paces portend.

Or Emily Esfahani Smith could just be wrong. There's that.

In every "society that has survived the millennia" widespread infidelity has been the norm as well.

The whole monogamy argument that people put forward about if it's natural, or a construct, or male dominated, or whatever is all bullshiat. Anyone with half an ounce of introspection would understand a couple of fundamental truths.

1) We all want to experience different sexual experiences.2) We all hate the idea that someone we find sexual appealing would choose to have sex with someone other than ourselves.

#1 is why we cheat, #2 is why we try to be monogamous.

People are intrinsically selfish. Just look at what has happened now that women are earning more money in society - they are starting to cheat just as much as men and it's likely because they feel just as entitled as men do because of economic security to sleep around and go after those varied sexual encounters. Still, at the end of the day, it'd be a RARE woman or man who didn't get all butt hurt when their sexual partner gives them a pass to go and sleep with someone else.

If anything monogamy is likely a construct put in place by human beings (both genders) to avoid the emotional damage of sexual rejection since for our species, sex is tied very closely to emotional well being and sense of self.

Btw, I am not the first person to dream this up or speculate on it. In fact, it's widely accepted that the above IS the reason for monogamy as a social construct. However all the stupid articles we see are just the sensationalist bullshiat that papers love to print because it sells (or gets page views).

Same here. We've been married for 25 years and we have sex at least 2 or 3 times a week. If anything it's actually more often now than it was 10 years ago. We've even had it 3 or 4 times in a single day during the last few months.

TwistedFark:The whole monogamy argument that people put forward about if it's natural, or a construct, or male dominated, or whatever is all bullshiat. Anyone with half an ounce of introspection would understand a couple of fundamental truths.

1) We all want to experience different sexual experiences.2) We all hate the idea that someone we find sexual appealing would choose to have sex with someone other than ourselves.

#1 is why we cheat, #2 is why we try to be monogamous.

People are intrinsically selfish. Just look at what has happened now that women are earning more money in society - they are starting to cheat just as much as men and it's likely because they feel just as entitled as men do because of economic security to sleep around and go after those varied sexual encounters. Still, at the end of the day, it'd be a RARE woman or man who didn't get all butt hurt when their sexual partner gives them a pass to go and sleep with someone else.

If anything monogamy is likely a construct put in place by human beings (both genders) to avoid the emotional damage of sexual rejection since for our species, sex is tied very closely to emotional well being and sense of self.

Btw, I am not the first person to dream this up or speculate on it. In fact, it's widely accepted that the above IS the reason for monogamy as a social construct. However all the stupid articles we see are just the sensationalist bullshiat that papers love to print because it sells (or gets page views).

Yeah, I don't understand people.

Sure, being selfishly possessive of another human being is a good short-term strategy, but it really only lasts for a fraction of a single person's lifetime. In the long-term, society is a damaged vindictive mess because of that possessive attitude.

And people wonder why people are mean to each other. Well, look to yourselves.

The DBS:We've been married for 25 years and we have sex at least 2 or 3 times a week. If anything it's actually more often now than it was 10 years ago. We've even had it 3 or 4 times in a single day during the last few months.

Uh huh. Sure. If you count brushing her arm while folding the laundry, maybe. Other than that, you're like a poster child for Middle Age Delusional Syndrome.

Quantum Apostrophe:The DBS: We've been married for 25 years and we have sex at least 2 or 3 times a week. If anything it's actually more often now than it was 10 years ago. We've even had it 3 or 4 times in a single day during the last few months.

Uh huh. Sure. If you count brushing her arm while folding the laundry, maybe. Other than that, you're like a poster child for Middle Age Delusional Syndrome.

Hey_shut_up:Hell look at the results of the survey at ok Cupid. Women stated that 80% of men are of below average attractiveness. That is mathematically impossible yet here we are.

It's impossible that 80% of the men on ok cupid are below average median attractiveness of the men on ok cupid. However, they 80% could be below average of the general population, if ok cupid attracts particularly unattractive men.

Tyrone Slothrop:Hey_shut_up: Hell look at the results of the survey at ok Cupid. Women stated that 80% of men are of below average attractiveness. That is mathematically impossible yet here we are.

It's impossible that 80% of the men on ok cupid are below average median attractiveness of the men on ok cupid. However, they 80% could be below average of the general population, if ok cupid attracts particularly unattractive men.

OKCupid has a unique situation... More men than women and the men are the chasers. What this means is that even the real unattractive women get quite a few messages, so they think they are hot shiat. So they get unrealistic expectations and every man that isn't Brad Pitt is below average.

Hey_shut_up:Hell look at the results of the survey at ok Cupid. Women stated that 80% of men are of below average attractiveness. That is mathematically impossible yet here we are.

Just what I thought. Women's expectations are way too high. Yes, we all want to fark the hottie. I want a lingerie model, and she wants Thor. At least I know I won't be getting a lingerie model. She still thinks she can get Thor.

Hey_shut_up:Women are hypergoumuse by nature. They want better than themselves and the established norm. If you make $140,000 a year she will want to fark a guy who makes $150,000. You have a house she wants a mansion. You have a boat she will want a yaught, and so and so on.

Hell look at the results of the survey at ok Cupid. Women stated that 80% of men are of below average attractiveness. That is mathematically impossible yet here we are.

Don't waste your time on them, focus on your career, your goals and your happiness. Women are like buses, there is another on in 10 minutes.

The DBS:Quantum Apostrophe: The DBS: We've been married for 25 years and we have sex at least 2 or 3 times a week. If anything it's actually more often now than it was 10 years ago. We've even had it 3 or 4 times in a single day during the last few months.

Uh huh. Sure. If you count brushing her arm while folding the laundry, maybe. Other than that, you're like a poster child for Middle Age Delusional Syndrome.

Sure, whatever makes you feel better.

Just put that guy (') on ignore, he's a troll, who is obviously in an unhappy marriage and wants to make everyone else miserable.

"Bergner thinks that monogamy is society's way of constraining female sexuality. "

Oh dear, we've stepped outside science and are now into feminist theory that assumes that society evolved in an unnatural way, rather than based on the general desires of many members of the group.

The reason that women are more monogamous than men (and just because women get the hots more doesn't mean they are acting on it) is based on biology. They have 1 womb that can produce approximately 1 child per year. A man can father (potentially) hundreds of children per year.

We have women now who are multimillionaires, but none of them, despite the fact that they can tell society to go fark itself, have a harem of men. They have one partner.

And the reason for society's different standards is this: a man who puts it about is successful, spreading his seed. A woman who puts it about is saying that she isn't too choosy about whose baby she gets in her womb.

Now, things like the pill should change this. Women should be into more recreational sex. But the fact is, we've got 100,000+ years of this being our biology and about 50 years of the pill.

Years ago, the wife and I decided that even though we don't always agree, we'd never use sex to control the other. If one of us wants it, the other one gives it. That works out to a lot of sex even in our 40's.

All kidding aside, that's real advice for anybody that doesn't want to end up as one of those bitter middle aged people complaining about a lack of romance in the home.

I feel like 90% of everything written starts out with someone who says to themselves, 'I know I'm right about X and I'm going to show everyone that my *opinion* is right.' So, the author says, 'Female sex drive is strong, I *know* it! I'll convince you'.

A study that shows women want to have sex less frequently? Well, that's just evidence of SOCIETY telling women they shouldn't have sex. So, their natural level must be higher! And society lowers it! But clearly, I'm CORRECT!

Also, an unrelated tidbit about monkeys? Well clearly, that's the same thing. It doesn't mean that 'When watching monkeys have sex, women exhibited a 20% greater increase in blood flow to sexual organs' it means *WHATEVER THE AUTHOR WANTS* - because, if someone likes monkey sex, it MUST mean that they have a stronger sex drive!

Bacontastesgood:Medic Zero: Just put that guy (') on ignore, he's a troll, who is obviously in an unhappy marriage and wants to make everyone else miserable.

Troll would be if he was bullshiatting. I think he's a genuine loser at life. But fundamentally your advice is sound, life is too short for whiners of that magnitude.

Where's the whining in my post? I'm simply stating that you don't have to be unhappy in your marriage if you're willing to work at making it a success. I know a lot of people my age (45) that are absolutely miserable in their marriages and I don't understand why they don't do anything to fix it other than to complain about how it's their spouse's fault.