Exposing the lies in the Official Story

We are constantly told that fuel went down the shafts but what evidence it presented to support the claim? There is some movie that has a blob of
fuel falling down the middle of the shaft. But the horizontal velocity would have to be zero for that to happen. The airliner hit the north tower at
440 mph.The fuel tanks were ripped open. How could the fuel velocity go down to zero to fall down the middle of the shaft?

But if fuel flowed down the sides of the shaft wouldn't it be on fire? How long would it take to reach the lobby?

This 9-11 incident should always remain open, no matter what. There are far too many people that will always be looking for answers, to a question
that has been hidden from us by our superiors. Why take the video tapes and not release any of the footage? why get rid of evidence and send it to
China? why have wargames when we should have been watching our asses?

What files did Cheney burn up in his office and what reason did he have for doing so?

Why report the towers fell in Britain when they clearly hadn't yet? What are all the other explosions and why are there other explosions going on
in the towers? Why are we allowing oil companies to ruin and tarnish our great American culture?

Why do the Israeli's have such close ties with the NSA, CIA and other agencies and allow their computer programs to function in our American system
without any discourse or action being taken into account?

Why did Israel bomb the U.S.S. Liberty and were allowed to get away with it? Why were there Israeli bombers on the bridge in a van packed full of
explosives the day of 9-11? Why were Israeli's clapping, dancing and cheering when the towers fell? Apparently they did not care that many
Americans had just died, is this typical of all Israeli's?

How did terrorists know exactly where the towers were and the Pentagon were out of the blue with no GPS? That would be a feat in itself for a
terrorist to be able to find out how to get to any of these locations, let alone any everyday pilot, without certain training? I'm surprised they
were able to hit both towers on the first try without even missing...?

And to have their passports quicker than # without it being burned up in the blaze was remarkable? here's a new one both planes that hit the towers
somehow ended up crashing into secure computer rooms in both towers?:rense.com...

Flight 11 and United Airlines Flight 175 cross paths in flight before the crash into the trade centers. this just sounds interesting and strange,
sounds like the culprit:These units were bolted to the raised floor which stood about 3 feet above the reinforced 81st floor. Beneath the raised floor
ran the cables and power supply that connected the army of batteries. IT techies had to get down on all fours and crawl around beneath the raised
floor to connect cables.

"The whole floor was batteries," he said, "huge battery-looking things." They were "all black" and "solid, very heavy" things that had been
brought in during the night. They had been put in place during the summer prior to 9/11, he said.

But were they really batteries?

"It's weird," he said. "They were never turned on."

So, what really was on the 81st floor of WTC 2? What was in these heavy "battery-looking things?" Were they batteries, or were they Thermite?

The Bernoulli principle only applies to gases traveling at or near mach speeds. (speed of sound)

You really need to double check your facts.

In fluid dynamics, Bernoulli's principle states that for an inviscid flow, an increase in the speed of the fluid occurs simultaneously with a decrease
in pressure or a decrease in the fluid's potential energy.

You are telling us that aircraft can only fly at or near mach1.

If you are trying to tell us that 19500 cu ft of air passing through the building at 680 ft per second would have no effect ...please say so..... So
we can laugh at you.

I can just picture you looking stuff up and typing furiously, trying to explain how this relatively small amount of liquid found the elevator
shaft, and without clinging to anything, magically descend hundreds of feet, and then ignite in the lobby. I see that you guys have given up on the
premise that you're legitimate truth seekers, and now you just blatantly defend the 'Official Lie' in every instance, no matter how absurd you
look. Maybe Bernouli would tell you about Daltons law of partial pressures? When you're trying to make people believe something as ridiculous as you
are, another scientist might help. See you at the next Mensa meeting.

Originally posted by dillweed
Maybe Bernouli would tell you about Daltons law of partial pressures? When you're trying to make people believe something as ridiculous as you are,
another scientist might help.

Oh this ought to be interesting.

Please explain to us how Daltons law of partial pressures would keep jet fuel from entering the elevator shafts.

Originally posted by dillweed
Maybe Bernouli would tell you about Daltons law of partial pressures? When you're trying to make people believe something as ridiculous as you are,
another scientist might help.

Oh this ought to be interesting.

Please explain to us how Daltons law of partial pressures would keep jet fuel from entering the elevator shafts.

Why would I? My statement has
the same amount of credibility as yours, I just wanted you to have to look it up. Worked too, didn't it?

Yeah, you're right. I don't know what came over me, I have a hard time keeping up with all the science you guys invoke to explain what happened
that day. Here I thought that that big ball of orange flame at impact was jet fuel, but I guess it was office furniture and passports. We're damn
lucky to have such keen analytical minds such as yours, to explain these unbelievable events. The Bernoulli principle, who knew?

I design and manufacture light aircraft. Venturi and Bernoulli are a big part of my day to day life, I don't need to look up their definitions. I not
only knew but understood the principals since I was about nine years old.

Truthers asked how so much jet fuel could of travelled down the elevator shafts so fast. I answered them using my knowledge I gained in aviation and
added the science to back it up.

If you would like to disprove what I presented, using your knowledge of fluid dynamics along with the science to back it up., be my guest.

Battalion Chief Edward Henry and I then entered the lobby of the Marriott Hotel which is situated at the foot of both towers. This became a
staging area where we were assigned to go to the 75th floor of the North Tower.

In this video you will here Jimmy Grillo clearly state."we were supposed to go into building No. 2, the south tower" this indicates he never made it
into the south tower. Jimmy also semiclearly states that he was in the lobby of WTC2 when it collapsed. We know this can't be true because he is
still alive.

Originally posted by thegameisup

even though 'debunkers' like to produce a dubious link stating Ladder 24 were in the Marriott Hotel.

Here are those "dubious" links again so people can judge the dubiousness for themselves.

My name is Tyrone Johnson, firefighter first grade, assigned to Ladder 24.......

Then maybe about five, ten minutes later, we were ordered to go into the Marriott Hotel. At that time the company and three other companies in front
of us went inside the Marriott Hotel......

We went to the Marriott. We got inside the lobby. The chief told us take your gear off, relax, until you find out what you want us to do.
Maybe 10 or 15 minutes later he gave us the command put the gear on because we're getting ready to head upstairs. There were about three companies in
front of us. We were the last company to go up the steps. Maybe about five minutes into the process of going up the steps, that's when the building
collapsed on us.

James Duffy. CHIEF CONGIUSTA: Firefighter third of
Ladder 24 of the New York City Fire Department....

We were told to report to the south tower, but the only way to get to the south tower -- you couldn't walk down Liberty Street to get into the main
entrance because of the jumpers and the falling debris, so we had to go in through the corner entrance of the Marriott, which is on West and Liberty.
We went in there......

over there right next to us. 22 Truck was in the lobby also. Then we were just waiting to go into the south tower. As we were waiting, we looked up
and all I saw was -- I heard this huge noise, and I saw hundreds and hundreds of people running towards us. They were running out of the south tower
to the Marriott, to the lobby.

We just turned. We started to like run also. We got about ten feet before getting blown across the lobby. We got blown across the lobby, just got
covered with debris.

A. Oh, no. I didn't know what it was when we were inside. I didn't know the building had collapsed, actually. I thought it was a bomb. I thought a
bomb had gone off. That's why I really didn't know until after.

Q. Afterwards?

A. Yeah, that that's when it came down. I wasn't expecting that. I thought it was a bomb or something that went off.

Once we reached the doorway I thanked God that we had made it and then entered the hotel lobby. There was a sea of firefighters all waiting their turn
to start heading up. We knew we had to wait a while, so we loosened our coats and put down all our gear so we wouldn't overheat. While we waited, I
noticed Jimmy Grillo, a member of our company, holding a five-gallon bottle of water, filling up cups with water so we would all be properly hydrated.
Standing by, just waiting for our turn, I also noticed a bank of pay phones on the lobby wall. The lieutenant and I approached the phones trying to
get a working line. We had a dial tone but all the circuits were busy. I even attempted to use my cell phone to get in touch with my family, but that
failed. I was concerned about how much they must be worrying about me.

It was our turn to go up.

We started heading to the stairwell when this dark, overpowering shadow started heading toward us. It seemed as if it was in slow motion. People were
yelling to run. My first instinct was to run away from the shadow thinking another plane must be coming in. I made a turn toward another lobby, trying
to get away from the front of the building. Then I felt this force, like being in a massive wind tunnel. Firefighters were getting tossed around like
rag dolls. I found myself being blown across the floor landing into what appeared to be a closet. The South Tower was collapsing.

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