I'm assuming they'll explain how they have access to a kind of teleportation technology that doesn't seem to exist in the future so it's either banned or causes everyone who uses it to die horribly in which case bad times for Micheal. I like the show but that aspect will take some explaining.

I know this is stupid but during the fight scene in the galley my immediate thought was "Serves you right for switching Sci-Fi shows" as the 3 other convicts were all from The Expanse. Get back to your own Sci-Fi universe you traitors.

What was Saru's reaction about as the shuttle left?

Was he sensing death? Did Lorca kill the shuttle to hide Micheal coming on board?

Still liked that - but a bit too the the dark/grim side. Think is swung more to BSG than Star Trek in this

I'm assuming they'll explain how they have access to a kind of teleportation technology that doesn't seem to exist in the future so it's either banned or causes everyone who uses it to die horribly in which case bad times for Micheal. I like the show but that aspect will take some explaining.

I know this is stupid but during the fight scene in the galley my immediate thought was "Serves you right for switching Sci-Fi shows" as the 3 other convicts were all from The Expanse. Get back to your own Sci-Fi universe you traitors.

What was Saru's reaction about as the shuttle left?

Was he sensing death? Did Lorca kill the shuttle to hide Micheal coming on board?

Still liked that - but a bit too the the dark/grim side. Think is swung more to BSG than Star Trek in this

Yeah I thought that

it implied either the shuttle crew was about to be killed as a cover up after they left (btw why was Michael not arsed about the shuttle pilot dying at the start if the whole thing was set up by the captain?) or he sensed them bringing the monster alien from Doom 3 on board.

I do hope they concentrate more on the science and discovery stuff rather than the war against the Klingons.

I'm assuming they'll explain how they have access to a kind of teleportation technology that doesn't seem to exist in the future so it's either banned or causes everyone who uses it to die horribly in which case bad times for Micheal. I like the show but that aspect will take some explaining.

I know this is stupid but during the fight scene in the galley my immediate thought was "Serves you right for switching Sci-Fi shows" as the 3 other convicts were all from The Expanse. Get back to your own Sci-Fi universe you traitors.

What was Saru's reaction about as the shuttle left?

Was he sensing death? Did Lorca kill the shuttle to hide Micheal coming on board?

Still liked that - but a bit too the the dark/grim side. Think is swung more to BSG than Star Trek in this

Yeah I thought that

it implied either the shuttle crew was about to be killed as a cover up after they left (btw why was Michael not arsed about the shuttle pilot dying at the start if the whole thing was set up by the captain?) or he sensed them bringing the monster alien from Doom 3 on board.

I do hope they concentrate more on the science and discovery stuff rather than the war against the Klingons.

I'd assumed they'd picked up the pilot and not mentioned it - it was only the tether that broke.

Plus who was flying the shuttle at the end? Can't see Lorca giving them a loaner pilot

Other thing - they make a big point of Discovery being a new top of the line ship, but then wave off blowing up the Glenn quite quickly. Not even slight talk of salvaging? Or a throw away line?

I'm no Trekkie (the first Abrams movie is EXCELLENT I tell you) but I'm really enjoying this. It's far from perfect, but I've liked the set-up so far.

Having the opening two-parter act as a separate prologue was smart, and having the third episode feel entirely different was smarter still. They've done an amazing job setting up Michael, who is a very interesting lead, and there's potential among the supporting cast. Doug Jones is great in the kind of role he has here. Thankfully the special effects have been pretty good too, really feels big budget.

Yup, the opener wasn't a fluke and this is a genuinely great so far. (Hello to) Jason Isaacs is perfect as The Illusive Captain and there's a great feeling of mystery and tension that plain wasn't present in the other series. Great stuff.

Much like the reboot movies, I am enjoying this as a piece of entertainment but I don't feel it's very good Star Trek. Where is the optimism, the exploration, the diplomacy?

Seems to me like Starfleet has all the same morally dubious solutions to their problems that we do now, which doesn't befit a vision of a future in which humanity took World War 3 and subsequent first contact as an opportunity to 'grow up.'

Karl wrote:Much like the reboot movies, I am enjoying this as a piece of entertainment but I don't feel it's very good Star Trek. Where is the optimism, the exploration, the diplomacy?

Seems to me like Starfleet has all the same morally dubious solutions to their problems that we do now, which doesn't befit a vision of a future in which humanity took World War 3 and subsequent first contact as an opportunity to 'grow up.'

I'm still not through the pilot but I was kinda baffled by that. It seemed more like a super on the nose allegory for US imperialism than anything else.

I have to be honest, stuff like DS9 and TNG took a while to actually get any good. There are a lot of crap episodes you can skip in their earlier seasons. I feel like Enterprise suffered from this too.

This show needs to hit the ground running. I'm cautiously optimistic about it.

I agree that TNG takes a season to warm up - and I agree that this would be cancelled if it did the same - but I don't think a show has to be edgy and grimdark to hit the ground running. I'd go as far as to say that it's a lazy shortcut to being taken seriously -- you see it in gaming too, where the more blood and dead-eyed gruff marines a game has the easier it is to convince people that it's 'cool' in some sense.