Wow! Thanks for that great tip. However i'm nearly a total noob on bass mods so what is the difference between a normal pot and push-pull? Is it a switch?

I cant wire so how much would it be to get a shop to series my bass?

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a push-pull pot is a normal pot that has a switch attached to it that is activated by a push or pull action...the switch needs to be 2P2T (aka DPDT, double-pole double-throw), but this is typical of push-pull pots.

You could do this with a separate DPDT switch, but then you need to drill an extra hole and everything...this way is MUCH cleaner...I'm ordering one and doing it to my PJ style bass...

there's a huge thread on here in this forum about doing the series mod. do a search.

And i knew the s-1 switch made wiring series, i just cant afford a bass with s-1... but thanx

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Sorry! I misunderstood your question. I have a Jazz with S-1, and the series wiring definitely fattens up the tone. I'm not sure it would be the "bright-fat" you're looking for because the treble gets pulled back, but it's a nice option to have. I think hot J pickups like Quarter Pounders would sound huge in series. Definitely worth a try.

It is OK to have one wife, but having only one bass is simply not generous on your part.

You should wn a J, a P, and a MM (I do), because each is unique unto itself. My J does double duty, because it is a fretless. Both Fenders are MIM, and good players. The cost is low, and I will own both for the long term. My MM is actually a G&L L1500 that was built to my specs, and it is fast becoming my main player.

Thats a great idea to try, but ultimately if you want the sound of a quarter pounder P-bass pickup, you're better off getting a P bass (or PJ). Nothing but a P pickup sounds quite like a P pickup.

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in my experience to date I've found more J's with better P tone in the bridge position than the P's I've had in P position. One of the reasons I haven't done more P reviews is cause I just give up on them from time to time. But I pick it back up periodically cause even though I'm basically a J guy, I like a good P tone and can see no reason I can't have it in a P pup. Over time it became a challenge as much as anything.

There's a lot of variation in tone in P pups just as there is in J's but there are characteristic qualities that are associated to a P tone. A qaulity P tone I associate with the classic vintage Fender P and it's a hard tone to nail the mids on especially. Too boxie, too scooped, not the right mix of mids, have the bottom but too ill-defined on the top half, has the mids but not the thump, not warm enough, whatever. The Dirnt P has been the best to date and it is decent. A Bongo pup in bridge postion puts out a better P tone than most of the P's I've had. There are a lot of variables involved in any tone besides the pup. What you run the pup through has a major impact.

But for whatever reason, I for one have had a harder time finding good P tone in a P pup than elsewhere.

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There's a lot of variation in tone in P pups just as there is in J's but there are characteristic qualities that are associated to a P tone. A quality P tone I associate with the classic vintage Fender P and it's a hard tone to nail the mids on especially. Too boxie, too scooped, not the right mix of mids, have the bottom but too ill-defined on the top half, has the mids but not the thump, not warm enough, whatever.

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I know what you mean. My J is my go-to bass, but I love a good P tone and I'm pretty picky about it. I bought an Am. Series P last year, and it's on its third pickup. The stocker had great tone, but weak output and slightly muddy lows. The DiMarzio Model P had monstrous output and cut and good clarity, but almost no vintage warmth.

Now I have a Duncan SPB-2 Hot for P-bass, which is awesome overall -- hot output, decent vintage warmth, enough thump for me, and excellent clarity. But it's still missing a little something I'd call "grind." I can probably dial in some of that with different strings, so no worries. I had the perfect P tone in a '94 MIJ Foto Flame, but I just didn't dig the feel of the neck, so I sold it.

For a passable P tone from a J bass, I'd think a high output humbucking pickup in the neck position would come closest, something like a Seymour Duncan Hot Stack or DiMarzio Model J. My J gets pretty close on some settings with Lindy Fralin Split Jazz. These are linear humbuckers with coils wired in series, and are thus similar to a split coil P-bass design.

It is OK to have one wife, but having only one bass is simply not generous on your part.

You should wn a J, a P, and a MM (I do), because each is unique unto itself. My J does double duty, because it is a fretless. Both Fenders are MIM, and good players. The cost is low, and I will own both for the long term. My MM is actually a G&L L1500 that was built to my specs, and it is fast becoming my main player.

Not implying any J one up thing by the way. It's all different but to say better is pretty situational. Like Real compared to what?

Getting qulaity J tone (again the classic vintage Fender) has been no easier when it comes right down to it cuase I've gone through at least twice as many (probably 3 x's) J pups to get there as P's.

Regarding addressing the topic and appeasing both corners, fat bright tone to me says scooped and an SD hot P J hot Stack was a stand out winner from the pups I've had. When I first started experimenting I bought a bass with that combo with an Aggie OBP-1 and I'd heard so much about the Aggie I assumed it was the source of the tone. I pulled the Aggie and those Pups sounded exactly the same without it.

Real sweet solo and worked to a fair number of tunes but overall not much variety to tone and limited application - going from memory. The review is in the PJ experiment but the fat/bright aspect was so pronounced that part I remember clearly.