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Contrary is kind of gimmicky though. I don't know how well it will function with Topsy-Turvy or whatever the hell it's move is called. Hopefully it'll get something similar to Serperior's Leaf Storm so it can make good use of Contrary.

Contrary is kind of gimmicky though. I don't know how well it will function with Topsy-Turvy or whatever the hell it's move is called. Hopefully it'll get something similar to Serperior's Leaf Storm so it can make good use of Contrary.

aren't most abilities gimmicky?
Topsy-Turvy would be an interesting one. Maybe to counteract moves that would otherwise be bad for Contrary users like Charge Beam to make it still give you that positive effect

Look at that awesome Hentai Dominator POKEMON!
It's freakin' Dark/Psychic! Not even a Squid with a Water typing!
And its evolution method involves flipping the 3DS over!
So with the speculation:
Good Specially Defensive with High Special Attack might fit it. Speed may not be a high stat for it though, probably base 75 Spe.
There is a really good move known as Psycho Boost. It has 140 Att power and harshly reduces Attack and Sp.Attack stats when used.
Imagine a Contrary Pokemon like Malamar abusing Psycho Boost, boosting the move's power everytime. It's Attack and Sp.Attack are raised by 2, so other moves can be boosted. However, I don't think Malamar should be given this move so easily.
The reason why its given to Deoxys is because it is a final resort move. I think Inkay should get this move at a high level (Lv 60) and make it exclusively a pre-evolution move so that Wi-Fi battlers must work towards attaining the move before they flip the 3DS and evolve it into Malamar.
Hopefully, it gets some Rock and Fire moves to cover its high Bug weakness (4x). With its beak, I believe it can use Drill Peck or some pecking move at least. I do not see Malamar getting moves like Heat Wave and Leaf Storm because then it would be broken. Solely one move that can benefit Malamar from Contrary and that's it.
Volcorona and Scizor will be definite counters, along with Pokemon that can utilize X-Scissor well (Terrakion, Samurott, Weavile, Escavalier, Toxicroak, Armaldo, etc.)
So my initial placement for it would be the Borderline 1 tier.

Borderline? You can't place stuff in borderline like that! I'm guessing it will be RU.

Good analyses, considering we don't know anything about it yet. I'm hoping Scizor and some of those others drop to UU for some reason or another.

>.> No. Scizor will always be the king! Hail to the King!
TBH, I don't think Scizor will drop to UU anytime soon. Fire types are very common in higher tiers, yet he still hasn't been scared from his throne.

Look at that awesome Hentai Dominator POKEMON!
It's freakin' Dark/Psychic! Not even a Squid with a Water typing!
And its evolution method involves flipping the 3DS over!
So with the speculation:
Good Specially Defensive with High Special Attack might fit it. Speed may not be a high stat for it though, probably base 75 Spe.
There is a really good move known as Psycho Boost. It has 140 Att power and harshly reduces Attack and Sp.Attack stats when used.
Imagine a Contrary Pokemon like Malamar abusing Psycho Boost, boosting the move's power everytime. It's Attack and Sp.Attack are raised by 2, so other moves can be boosted. However, I don't think Malamar should be given this move so easily.
The reason why its given to Deoxys is because it is a final resort move. I think Inkay should get this move at a high level (Lv 60) and make it exclusively a pre-evolution move so that Wi-Fi battlers must work towards attaining the move before they flip the 3DS and evolve it into Malamar.
Hopefully, it gets some Rock and Fire moves to cover its high Bug weakness (4x). With its beak, I believe it can use Drill Peck or some pecking move at least. I do not see Malamar getting moves like Heat Wave and Leaf Storm because then it would be broken. Solely one move that can benefit Malamar from Contrary and that's it.
Volcorona and Scizor will be definite counters, along with Pokemon that can utilize X-Scissor well (Terrakion, Samurott, Weavile, Escavalier, Toxicroak, Armaldo, etc.)
So my initial placement for it would be the Borderline 1 tier.

That's what I'm trying to say. Contrary and Topsy-Turvy do similar things so I wonder if there is a combo of the two that could make a great strategy.

Btw, my birthday is in like four days. July 23rd!!!!! I'm so excited! And I think Norn's birthday is tomorrow....a big birthday week at THT!

Guys I just saw the best abuse if rhyperior's base 140 attack stat. It was just omfg.
So basically. It requires a double battle. Rhyperior knows protect and earthquake and cressilia knows trick room and swagger.
Cressilia has levitate and rhyperior is holding a Lum berry. First turn rhyperior uses protect and cressilia uses trick room. Then on the next turn cressilia uses swagger on rhyperior. Lum berry heals it. Rhyperior goes on an earthquake rampage.