In Peter Hook's new memoir Unknown Pleasures (out now on It Books), the bassist is honest and forthright about his days spent in Joy Division. Recently, Hook stopped by Hive studios, where he expanded on these candid moments. "[It] was the only time I truly felt comfortable," he tells Matt Pinfield on this week's episode of The Hivecast. "When Ian died, it felt like the balance was off."

Hook and Pinfield also reminisce about old Joy Division and New Order tunes, bass lines that Hook reused, and why "Regret" was the last good New Order song. For this and much more, stream the new episode below. [Download and Subscribe to the Hivecast via iTunes.]