"Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard, solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. Nothing pains some people more than having to think."
Martin Luther King, Jr.

What is up with governors from Ilinois? Haven't the last few been suspected of or arrested for corruption? Wasn't Governor Ryan put in prison or something?

Can anyone else think of high-profile people arrested while in office?

Wasn't a Connecticut governor caught taking bribes? Two Arizona governors were convicted of crimes while in office, that I can remember. Some congressman just got jail time for drunk driving.

The last I heard, former Governor Ryan is still, and please correct me if I am wrong here, a resident of Wisconsin (more specifically, the US Federal minimum-security lockup near Oxford, WI).

Yes, it is SOP in Chicago politics, OKA The Chicago Political Machine™.

Am I not the only one in here more than a little bit 'concerned' about the fact that the incoming guy in our nation's top office (yes, (The Nameless One) himself) is cut from that exact same bolt of political cloth?

(And no, I will not 'duck and run!' from this one as I was expressing that exact same concern in these very same forvms before the election.)

Oh yea, former Governor Elliot Spitzer of New York was recently removed from office by the federal prosecutors, too.

Am I not the only one in here more than a little bit 'concerned' about the fact that the incoming guy in our nation's top office (yes, (The Nameless One) himself) is cut from that exact same bolt of political cloth?

Am I not the only one in here more than a little bit 'concerned' about the fact that the incoming guy in our nation's top office (yes, (The Nameless One) himself) is cut from that exact same bolt of political cloth?

I couldn't agree with you more. What more proof does one need that Obama is a criminal?

Another thing - and I'm sure you'll agree with me - Ronald Reagan was a freakin' closet red. I don't care what anyone says, but he emerged (as president of the Screen Actors Guild) from that whole gay/pinko/communist/unAmerican Hollywood bolt of cloth back in the 1950's. The Honorable Senator from Wisconsin around that time shoulda called him to the carpet...

Am I not the only one in here more than a little bit 'concerned' about the fact that the incoming guy in our nation's top office (yes, (The Nameless One) himself) is cut from that exact same bolt of political cloth?

Obama happened to live the last portion of his life in Chicago, yes, but the similarities end there. Obama's not from Chicago originally, and has never shown any tendencies toward Chicago-style politics. If we're going to go with the guilty-by-where-you-work-and-what-others-have-done, I'd be more concerned about Obama's time in DC.

What do you call having all of your opponents kicked off of the ballot in your first ever run for any public office?

What do you call having your thugs strongarm another state into opening your major opponent's legally sealed personal divorce records for use against him, forcing him off of the ballot, in your first run for federal office?

And these are not the workings of The Chicago Political Machine™? GIVE ME A BREAK!

What do you call having all of your opponents kicked off of the ballot in your first ever run for any public office?

What do you call having your thugs strongarm another state into opening your major opponent's legally sealed personal divorce records for use against him, forcing him off of the ballot, in your first run for federal office?

And these are not the workings of The Chicago Political Machine™? GIVE ME A BREAK!

Again, I will not 'duck and run!' from this.

Mike

Has he ever been charged or even reprimanded for any improper behavior/abuse of power during his career as a public servant?

Folks... Go to the Obama thread with these posts, and stay on topic here. This is about a different person, even if they are from the same state.

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It seems every politician or public official has someone accusing them of something. I really meant to start a discussion about public officials actually arrested, charged, convicted, and/or incarcerated for their crimes, while serving in their office. Not just vague accusations, but people actually facing specific criminal charges.

I guess under that standard, even Eliot Spitzer wouldn't count, as he seems to have escaped formal charges.

I remember the brewhaha over Evan Meacham in the governor of Arizona in the 80's, subject to a recall election, impeachment proceedings, and criminal prosecution all at the same time. Think once he was convicted of a felony, he became ineligible to hold office, and the recall and impeachment became unnecessary.

"Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard, solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. Nothing pains some people more than having to think."
Martin Luther King, Jr.

It seems every politician or public official has someone accusing them of something. I really meant to start a discussion about public officials actually arrested, charged, convicted, and/or incarcerated for their crimes, while serving in their office. Not just vague accusations, but people actually facing specific criminal charges.

What do you call having all of your opponents kicked off of the ballot in your first ever run for any public office?

What do you call having your thugs strongarm another state into opening your major opponent's legally sealed personal divorce records for use against him, forcing him off of the ballot, in your first run for federal office?

And these are not the workings of The Chicago Political Machine™? GIVE ME A BREAK!

Again, I will not 'duck and run!' from this.

Mike

You make it sound like only Illinois/Chicago politicians are involved in things like this. Politics is ugly. But there's a difference between ugly politics and criminal activity.

I would vernture to say that 99&#37; of politicians have at some point in their careers done something that to outsiders looks a little wrong. Not criminal, but just not something that probably should have been done.

I was was hoping you could describe what President-Elect Obama's "thugs" did to another state because I'm not gonna 'duck and run' either. So there!

Am I not the only one in here more than a little bit 'concerned' about the fact that the incoming guy in our nation's top office (yes, (The Nameless One) himself) is cut from that exact same bolt of political cloth?

(And no, I will not 'duck and run!' from this one as I was expressing that exact same concern in these very same forvms before the election.)Mike

I believe that a statement by Blago showed that he and Obama were as far apart as vegans and beef. I heard this second hand. So I don't know if the source is reputable.