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shamone wrote:their absence did not take anything away from the story, it didnt leave a gap in the story

loads of things are planned in movies but dont happen, arcee was meant to be in the first movie

The Difference is Arcee was cut out in Pre-Production, she was replaced with Ironhide. The Twins were cut out in Post-Production, they weren't replaced, that's why the hangar scene feels rushed. That's also why there's no explanation for a destroyed smart car, and why there's no explanation for pieces of them lying around when Sentinel betrays.

thats just poor editing

the parts remaing should have been removed in post production

they could have cut around the bits to tighten up th scene

well, poor editing or not, It left a big enough gap in the story to make a seibertronian post a thread that got over 6 pages of feedback about it, proving not only is it a "touchy subject", but enough of you guys actually care enough about it to return to this thread and respond to your posts! the question is, in the future, what can be done to prevent this sort of thing?

shamone wrote:their absence did not take anything away from the story, it didnt leave a gap in the story

loads of things are planned in movies but dont happen, arcee was meant to be in the first movie

The Difference is Arcee was cut out in Pre-Production, she was replaced with Ironhide. The Twins were cut out in Post-Production, they weren't replaced, that's why the hangar scene feels rushed. That's also why there's no explanation for a destroyed smart car, and why there's no explanation for pieces of them lying around when Sentinel betrays.

thats just poor editing

the parts remaing should have been removed in post production

they could have cut around the bits to tighten up th scene

well, poor editing or not, It left a big enough gap in the story to make a seibertronian post a thread that got over 6 pages of feedback about it, proving not only is it a "touchy subject", but enough of you guys actually care enough about it to return to this thread and respond to your posts! the question is, in the future, what can be done to prevent this sort of thing?

what i saying is if the smart car had been removed as it should have been in post production and the pieces also would people have complained

shamone wrote:their absence did not take anything away from the story, it didnt leave a gap in the story

loads of things are planned in movies but dont happen, arcee was meant to be in the first movie

The Difference is Arcee was cut out in Pre-Production, she was replaced with Ironhide. The Twins were cut out in Post-Production, they weren't replaced, that's why the hangar scene feels rushed. That's also why there's no explanation for a destroyed smart car, and why there's no explanation for pieces of them lying around when Sentinel betrays.

thats just poor editing

the parts remaing should have been removed in post production

they could have cut around the bits to tighten up th scene

well, poor editing or not, It left a big enough gap in the story to make a seibertronian post a thread that got over 6 pages of feedback about it, proving not only is it a "touchy subject", but enough of you guys actually care enough about it to return to this thread and respond to your posts! the question is, in the future, what can be done to prevent this sort of thing?

what i saying is if the smart car had been removed as it should have been in post production and the pieces also would people have complained

the twins would just have been missing then, like jolt and arcee

Has it occurred to you that it's possible they did the editing as is, on purpose? Get the fans pissed, get the people talking?

Bay wanted them in. People whined and complained and went on and on and he caved. This is why I hate fandoms for the most part. Chock full o' idiots who know nothing.

The movies were for everyone, in general, and didn't cater to a certain group. Oooh. Big whoop. Whiner babies.

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Autobot032 wrote: Has it occurred to you that it's possible they did the editing as is, on purpose? Get the fans pissed, get the people talking?

Bay wanted them in. People whined and complained and went on and on and he caved. This is why I hate fandoms for the most part. Chock full o' idiots who know nothing.

The movies were for everyone, in general, and didn't cater to a certain group. Oooh. Big whoop. Whiner babies.

This. 100 times this. What really erks me is they would have had an honorable death.

Whom ever takes on the next movies is going to do the same thing Bay did. Make them in his/her vision and have it cater to the masses and not the fandom. It will be interesting to see what the next few years holds for TF movies.

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Autobot032 wrote: Has it occurred to you that it's possible they did the editing as is, on purpose? Get the fans pissed, get the people talking?

Bay wanted them in. People whined and complained and went on and on and he caved. This is why I hate fandoms for the most part. Chock full o' idiots who know nothing.

The movies were for everyone, in general, and didn't cater to a certain group. Oooh. Big whoop. Whiner babies.

This. 100 times this. What really erks me is they would have had an honorable death.

Whom ever takes on the next movies is going to do the same thing Bay did. Make them in his/her vision and have it cater to the masses and not the fandom. It will be interesting to see what the next few years holds for TF movies.

well its not exactly like loads of people are talking about it are they

a few guys ona dedicated transformers site isnt going to set the world alight now is it

in general the reviews from the mainstream respected press if they comment on the twins its to be thankful they werent in

just as the marginalised bay haters have little say, the bay lovers have about as much say

Autobot032 wrote: Has it occurred to you that it's possible they did the editing as is, on purpose? Get the fans pissed, get the people talking?

Bay wanted them in. People whined and complained and went on and on and he caved. This is why I hate fandoms for the most part. Chock full o' idiots who know nothing.

The movies were for everyone, in general, and didn't cater to a certain group. Oooh. Big whoop. Whiner babies.

This. 100 times this. What really erks me is they would have had an honorable death.

Whom ever takes on the next movies is going to do the same thing Bay did. Make them in his/her vision and have it cater to the masses and not the fandom. It will be interesting to see what the next few years holds for TF movies.

well its not exactly like loads of people are talking about it are they

a few guys ona dedicated transformers site isnt going to set the world alight now is it

in general the reviews from the mainstream respected press if they comment on the twins its to be thankful they werent in

just as the marginalised bay haters have little say, the bay lovers have about as much say

Autobot032 wrote: Has it occurred to you that it's possible they did the editing as is, on purpose? Get the fans pissed, get the people talking?

Bay wanted them in. People whined and complained and went on and on and he caved. This is why I hate fandoms for the most part. Chock full o' idiots who know nothing.

The movies were for everyone, in general, and didn't cater to a certain group. Oooh. Big whoop. Whiner babies.

This. 100 times this. What really erks me is they would have had an honorable death.

Whom ever takes on the next movies is going to do the same thing Bay did. Make them in his/her vision and have it cater to the masses and not the fandom. It will be interesting to see what the next few years holds for TF movies.

well its not exactly like loads of people are talking about it are they

a few guys ona dedicated transformers site isnt going to set the world alight now is it

in general the reviews from the mainstream respected press if they comment on the twins its to be thankful they werent in

just as the marginalised bay haters have little say, the bay lovers have about as much say

Autobot032 wrote: Has it occurred to you that it's possible they did the editing as is, on purpose? Get the fans pissed, get the people talking?

Bay wanted them in. People whined and complained and went on and on and he caved. This is why I hate fandoms for the most part. Chock full o' idiots who know nothing.

The movies were for everyone, in general, and didn't cater to a certain group. Oooh. Big whoop. Whiner babies.

This. 100 times this. What really erks me is they would have had an honorable death.

Whom ever takes on the next movies is going to do the same thing Bay did. Make them in his/her vision and have it cater to the masses and not the fandom. It will be interesting to see what the next few years holds for TF movies.

well its not exactly like loads of people are talking about it are they

a few guys ona dedicated transformers site isnt going to set the world alight now is it

in general the reviews from the mainstream respected press if they comment on the twins its to be thankful they werent in

just as the marginalised bay haters have little say, the bay lovers have about as much say

Autobot032 wrote: Has it occurred to you that it's possible they did the editing as is, on purpose? Get the fans pissed, get the people talking?

Bay wanted them in. People whined and complained and went on and on and he caved. This is why I hate fandoms for the most part. Chock full o' idiots who know nothing.

The movies were for everyone, in general, and didn't cater to a certain group. Oooh. Big whoop. Whiner babies.

This. 100 times this. What really erks me is they would have had an honorable death.

Whom ever takes on the next movies is going to do the same thing Bay did. Make them in his/her vision and have it cater to the masses and not the fandom. It will be interesting to see what the next few years holds for TF movies.

well its not exactly like loads of people are talking about it are they

a few guys ona dedicated transformers site isnt going to set the world alight now is it

in general the reviews from the mainstream respected press if they comment on the twins its to be thankful they werent in

just as the marginalised bay haters have little say, the bay lovers have about as much say

Autobot032 wrote: Has it occurred to you that it's possible they did the editing as is, on purpose? Get the fans pissed, get the people talking?

Bay wanted them in. People whined and complained and went on and on and he caved. This is why I hate fandoms for the most part. Chock full o' idiots who know nothing.

The movies were for everyone, in general, and didn't cater to a certain group. Oooh. Big whoop. Whiner babies.

This. 100 times this. What really erks me is they would have had an honorable death.

Whom ever takes on the next movies is going to do the same thing Bay did. Make them in his/her vision and have it cater to the masses and not the fandom. It will be interesting to see what the next few years holds for TF movies.

well its not exactly like loads of people are talking about it are they

a few guys ona dedicated transformers site isnt going to set the world alight now is it

in general the reviews from the mainstream respected press if they comment on the twins its to be thankful they werent in

just as the marginalised bay haters have little say, the bay lovers have about as much say

Autobot032 wrote: Has it occurred to you that it's possible they did the editing as is, on purpose? Get the fans pissed, get the people talking?

Bay wanted them in. People whined and complained and went on and on and he caved. This is why I hate fandoms for the most part. Chock full o' idiots who know nothing.

The movies were for everyone, in general, and didn't cater to a certain group. Oooh. Big whoop. Whiner babies.

This. 100 times this. What really erks me is they would have had an honorable death.

Whom ever takes on the next movies is going to do the same thing Bay did. Make them in his/her vision and have it cater to the masses and not the fandom. It will be interesting to see what the next few years holds for TF movies.

well its not exactly like loads of people are talking about it are they

a few guys ona dedicated transformers site isnt going to set the world alight now is it

in general the reviews from the mainstream respected press if they comment on the twins its to be thankful they werent in

just as the marginalised bay haters have little say, the bay lovers have about as much say