Looking in the archive, it seems this video hasn't been posted yet which seems surprising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgNne2zlVBQ

Homura is pretty gay for Madoka. Madoka just interacts with Homura slightly. Sayaka is evidently still bitter over Kyousuke, but is fairly cheerful and energetic despite that. Kyouko is still extremely innocent and shooting herself in the foot earnestly trying to help Sayaka(she stalks her apparently though). Mami's just sort of there playing a mom.

>>100874261
Sometimes I wish I was an OP anime character so I could kill all the "gods" and OP characters in anime, and crown myself king of OP.
Dokes and Homu of course, Haruhi, Demonbane, etc.
I guess the only one who can do it is Power Man.

>>100874127
It seemed like the OP meant for it to be general anime powerlevels, but he miscalculated the fact that the most immediate answer is basically Homura directing it back at the Madoka series itself.

>>100874861>ugly
Objectively not true>emo
Emos complain and don't solve their problems, Homura solves her problems.>bitch
Meh, what she did to Madoka was for Madoka's sake but wrong to do. In the end Madoka will forgive Homura so I can forgive as well.

>>100874985>>100875044
There's just something about her I don't like. Maybe lesbian? The hairband or stockings? I can't put my finger on why but I really want to punch her face in. Maybe it's the smug, evil side of Homu.

>>100875237>doesn't like your shitty sadistic waifu>faggot>>100875266
She's probably messy and slimy as fuck down there. Madoka's doing the right thing staying away. If I was in her position I'd run away.

>>100875179
I understand what you're feeling anon, really even now it's hard for me to set up absolute feelings about Homura now. I will say that when I first watched Rebellion I was angry at her and her actions.

Discussing my problems with her here helped level my feelings and now I think that her motivation was good but that her actions broke Madoka's trust in her and I expect some kind of consequence in terms of Magical Girls in general.

Now I don't hate her, I think her intentions were good but her actions will have consequences. The one we already know being that she now has even more self-hatred issues than before.

>>100875682
Have you seen the MadoHomu ending? The lewd is off the charts. Madoka suggests they take a bath together but writes it off as 'just kidding' when Homura is shocked. Then while they're in bed together staring into each other's eyes while holding hands, Madoka asks if she can stay at Homura's place next time... where they will be alone.

So from what we know: Homura's Universe is only "better" for the 6 main girls in that characters who are dead are alive now (Nagisa/Sayaka) and those who were alone are now with someone (Mami, Homura, Kyoko). However for Magical Girls in general its not any better than Madoka's world because they still have to fight wraiths to receive purification.

What we theorize: The afterlife that Madokami created was only possible because of Madoka's humanity. Otherwise we suspect that goddess Madoka only does what Madoka wished for; which is destroying witches before they are born. Human Madoka is the one who changed things so that magical girls have an afterlife and learn to accept their witch nature-gaining dominance over it. With that in mind Homura's world would actually be worse since now we have no idea what happens to Magical Girls' souls.

>>100876512>So from what we know: Homura's Universe is only "better" for the 6 main girls in that characters who are dead are alive now
Not really, the only one who truly has a better life is Madoka, all the other girls have to keep fighting for the rest of their lives in danger of dying at any time, for everything else, yes.

>>100876512>Homura's Universe is only "better" for the 6 main girls...

Homura's Universe is better for everyone.
Everyone can prosper in Homura's Universe.
Life is better in Homura's Universe.
Praise be to Homura.Homura's Universe is better for everyone.Everyone can prosper in Homura's Universe.Life is better in Homura's Universe.Praise be to Homura

>>100876580
I seriously question the common interpretation of that. We see Ai in her packaging right before Homula rides the gondola. Can't "Love has yet to arrive" be interpreted as how Homura had yet to awaken to the reality of her situation? This makes sense when you consider that Ai is Homura, and that Homura is figuratively the last person to show up to her own funeral procession--every one of her familiars was already aware of it, only Homura needed to 'arrive'.

>>100876665
If that's the case then doesn't that mean the audience has no reason to support whoever (most likely Sayaka) tries to give Madoka her memories back?

Actually it reminds me of Watchmen where Rorschach telling the truth about Ozymandias's giant squid would threaten the world peace Ozy had artificially created. Most of the "heroes" support keeping it quiet so peace can reign, and among the audience only moralfags would side with Rorschach thinking that the truth has to be revealed at any cost.

>>100876665
Madoka wish: "I wish to erase all witches from existence before they're even born. Every witch in the universe, from the past and the future, with my own hands"

Nowhere does it say anything about giving eternal salvation to magical girls or Yuri Valhalla, that was something that Madoka created with her magic independently of her wish, like the muskets of Mami, the Law of Cycles can't create it in her own because she don't have independence or free will.

>>100876512
Except Homura means to destroy the wraiths. In Madokami's world, she could do that no matter how hard she worked, but now she can actually succeed in doing what she meant to do in the first place.
If what you theorize is true, there is no reason for Homura to assure Sayaka that she only took an insignificant portion of the Law of Cycles.

>>100876881>Ai is Homura
Ai is not Homura, there is a scene where we see Ai with the magical outfit of Madoka and the gothic loli outfit, and considering the other Clara Doll Ai represents how Homura is not capable of love herself.

>>100877159>What I snatched away, was just a small fragment.>From before Madoka came to no longer be Madoka, just the record of her as a human.
Why would LoC lose her free will because of that?
Also, heaven belongs to Gretchen.

>>100877479
Are you daft anon? Explain the meaning, the symbolic significance, if you are right and Ai is wearing Madoka's clothing. You can't, because that's stupid.

One doll is Homura and the other one is Madoka. That they're both in their packaging is reference to how both their powers are sealed at that point in the movie.
Clear evidence of this is that Homura's doll has the runes on it and the nutcracker hand crank (Why would she have a handcrank if she isn't Homulilly?), while Madoka's does not. The third line of Ai's runes say 'oniai', which suggest that she complements something else in a par--it's what you would typically see used to advertise two toys that can go together as a pair.
Obviously Homura and Madoka make a complementary pair.

The imagery here is simple to decode. I can't believe how many people are on the wrong track.

>>100878392
It's not a heavy reference to anything, it's just foreshadowing Homura's true nature. The booklet throws people off because it says "Love has yet to arrive" in present tense, and the reader assumes that it refers to their present time. It actually refers to the present time within the fake Mitakihara.

>>100878470
This argument pops up a lot, and it's retarded. The driving point behind speculation is that you can't prove a negative assertion, so you can't simply write off someone's theorizing without evidence. The only thing you can do is offer up an equally valid positive assertion.

So, if you want to refute someone's interpretation of symbolism, come up with your own way of connecting the dots. Again, go ahead an explain the significance of the notion that the pink doll is simply Ai in Madoka's clothing. What does it mean, anon?

>>100878513>and the reader assumes that it refers to their present time. It actually refers to the present time within the fake Mitakihara.
In case you have not noticed, you also are assuming they are only referring to fake Mitakihara

>>100878695
No no. Someone reading the wiki who has seen Rebellion thinks of the entire movie as having taken place in the past, when in reality the booklet was given out to people with their tickets. It's an introduction to the cast, not an explanation of their status after the movie has ended.

>>100878831
That's not an assumption, that's how the Clara Dolls are described within the booklet. >The children of the false city. They play the role of mourners. These dress-up dolls fake crying in order to liven up the funeral procession. The dolls present are Arrogance, Sadsack, Liar, Coldheartedness, Selfishness, Slanderer, Dunce, Jealousy, Lazybones, Vanity, Cowardice, Fool, Bias, and Obstinance, while the last one, Love, has yet to arrive. "The depths of this world, born of form and without void, are our stage," and their power is a match for Magical Girls.

>>100879119
Again, its written as a cast introduction. >They play the role of>"are our stage"
All of Homulilly's familiars are described according to the role they play within her labyrinth. Homura herself is 'unopened', so to speak--as is Madoka. >>100879202
I have IRC but I've never familiarized myself with it. Whenever I log onto a channel, it's just 300 people who aren't talking. It's weird.

>>100879374
It's not fake, it's the real world wrapped inside Homura's kakera. Also, the post-rebellion world doesn't involve a funeral procession. It's quite clear that the booklet describes all of Homura's familiars' roles as they play them within the isolation field, where Homulilly's neverending funeral is to be held.

There is zero mention of what they do in Akuma Homura's labyrinth.

Also, you conveniently dropped the subject of "Ai in Madoka's clothing." We can admit that's bullshit, then?

>>100879439>I have IRC but I've never familiarized myself with it. Whenever I log onto a channel, it's just 300 people who aren't talking. It's weird.
If you're willing to connect to EFnet you can message me there I guess
Rizon is a no I'm banned from there

>>100879419
If you've been on /a/ for a duration longer than the human gestational period, you should know that threads about an anime are not reliable indicators for whether you will enjoy that anime or not.

>>100880053
There's no proof of anything. That's the entire premise of implicit messages.
The problem lies with the fact that one theory presented considers a variety of points and tries to link them all together--the setting, the scene the dolls appear in, the crank, the runes, etc.
Other theories seem unfounded in comparison when the only points presented are "Ai has yet to arrive" and "Ai is wearing Madoka's oufit", with no effort spent on explaining just how those two points relate to each other or the movie.
Right now those points seem awfully non-sequitur because nothing has been established that connects them to the plot.

>>100882923
It's a bigger tragedy to me that we never see Bowmura in action. How strong is she? Did she lose her way, or did she master her despair? I need to know.>>100883049
I haven't seen it since I could count my age on my hands, but... the smoke coming from the bulldozer, right?

>>100883682>Clara dolls playing under the table
that's so adorable. I can't wait for BDs so we can all frame-by-frame every single moment. There are tons of details the camrip misses that we're aware of, so there must be all that much more that we don't know of.

So where did the idea that Madoka's powers only work on witches come from? Kyouko's powers as a magical girl seems to work pretty well on Sayaka when they were fighting. Madoka's wish doesn't have anything to do with fighting witches, it has to do with removing the possibility of witches being born. She still has her powers as an ordinary magical girl, only on steroids due to Homu going back so many times, not due to her wish.

>>100885555
Madoka can only interact with the world directly when a magical girl's Soul Gem reaches maximum contamination. Well, she may also have been able to appear to her little brother, but that would have been bending the rules.

However, now that Homura rewrote reality, that's no longer necessarily the case. If Madokami reconnects with human Madoka, she'll probably be able to use her powers in the physical world as much as Homura can.