Newt Gingrich compares 'Ground Zero mosque' backers to Nazis

By Matt DeLong

Updated at 1:08 p.m.

Last week, Washington Post columnist Charles Krauthammer likened the opposition to the planned construction of an Islamic center near ground zero to when Pope John Paul II prevented a group of nuns from opening a convent near the site of the Auschwitz concentration camp.

He was in no way devaluing their heartfelt mission to pray for the souls of the dead. He was teaching them a lesson in respect: This is not your place; it belongs to others. However pure your voice, better to let silence reign.

Today, former House speaker and possible 2012 GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich went with a slightly different Holocaust metaphor when he compared the people behind the proposed mosque, whom he referred to as "radical Islamists," to "Nazis" during an appearance on Fox News.

"Nazis don't have the right to put up a sign next to the holocaust museum in Washington," Gingrich insisted, speaking of the museum where just a year ago a guard was killed by a white supremacist trying to enter the building with a gun.

Gingrich then went on to claim that "we would never accept the Japanese putting up a site next to Pearl Harbor."

...There are over a 100 passges in the koran, hadiths, and their suras calling for fighting and killing infidels. This is EXACTLY like their terrorist/pedophile founding prophet, their 1,400 years of history and yes, their ACTIONS!!...
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Do you also condem ALL Christians because the Holy Bible avocated kidnapping, human sacrifice, rape, slavery and murder? Just because something is written the holy books of Muslims or Christians, does not mean that all the members of those religions practice them.

...There are over a 100 passges in the koran, hadiths, and their suras calling for fighting and killing infidels. This is EXACTLY like their terrorist/pedophile founding prophet, their 1,400 years of history and yes, their ACTIONS!!...
Posted by: zakgold
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Do you also condem ALL Christians because the Holy Bible avocated kidnapping, human sacrifice, rape, slavery and murder? Just because something is written the holy books of Muslims or Christians, does not mean that all the members of those religions practice them.

...There are over a 100 passges in the koran, hadiths, and their suras calling for fighting and killing infidels. This is EXACTLY like their terrorist/pedophile founding prophet, their 1,400 years of history and yes, their ACTIONS!!...
Posted by: zakgold
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Do you also condem ALL Christians because the Holy Bible avocated kidnapping, human sacrifice, rape, slavery and murder? Just because something is written the holy books of Muslims or Christians, does not mean that all the members of those religions.

Let’s look at today’s situation: Americans are protesting the building of mosques, not only at “Ground- Zero”, but in many states throughout our country. A pastor has set a date for a “Koran Burning”. A Muslin-American has tried to bomb Times Square. We are hoping a constitutional government will form in Iraqi. In Afghanistan, it is clear we will need moderate Muslins to create a nation free of terrorists’ training camps. All of these called for our president to reaffirm that America’s ideals of religious freedom are applicable to Muslims. Was it a dangerous thing for Obama to do politically? Maybe! Did it show needed leadership? I think so. In time people will be calmer and more able to think clearly on this issue. But for now people are angry. Let’s look into the future.
Years from now, visitors looking for the proposed “Mosque” at “Ground Zero” will have a hard time finding it. Assuming funding can be found for the Islamic center, it won’t be visible from hallowed ground. One will need to have a bird’s eye view from the “Freedom Tower” to see it. The proposed site is two and a half blocks away on a side street. I envision visitors to the 9-11 attack site looking out from many stories up. They will probably need to have a local guide to point which of the neighborhood buildings is the “Mosque”. Some visitors will disapprove, some approve, but most will simply see the Islamic center as one of many features of a diverse city. In other words, people will be calmer.
But for now people are angry. There are many reasons: First; Many believe the proposed construction is at or overlooking “Ground Zero”. It is not. Second; The New York site of the 9-11 tragedy has long been an open wound. Soon, ten years after the 9-11 attacks, a proper memorial might finally be finished. That hopefully will bring closure for many victims’ families. Third; we will, in time, remember what President George W. Bush tried to teach us about the Islamic faith. After 9-11, Bush pointed out al-Qaeda has perverted Islam. True Muslims condemn Islamic terror and have been most of its victims. Lastly; as people calm, it will be harder to score political points with their anger.
Obama has tried to remind all Americans that we really believe in our constitution. Obama has tried to assure Muslin-Americans that they have the full rights of citizenship. Obama has tried to increase the number of Muslims willing to ally themselves with us in instead of supporting al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups. Will Obama’s message be heard? Maybe it will heard when people are calmer and less angry.

Perhaps a little perspective, and some reality are missing here. There is a Buddist Temple in Honolulu, that is on the National Historical Registry. I do not see News coverage of unhappy Pearl Harbor familys about the existence of this Temple. Mr. Gingrich is, at best, uninformed.

Opening a mosque at or near Ground Zero would be no differant than if Nazis opened a gift shop next to Auschwitz as both idealogies deal with hate, intolerance, and death. What the PC culture will not report is this is really a war against an idealogy. Face some facts..the word Islam itself means “peace” IF (and this is a huge IF) when one “submits and surrenders” to their faith and (sharia) way of life. Otherwise, there is NO peace.

There are over a 100 passges in the koran, hadiths, and their suras calling for fighting and killing infidels. This is EXACTLY like their terrorist/pedophile founding prophet, their 1,400 years of history and yes, their ACTIONS!!

The evidence – the only evidence – proves beyond any doubt that “good” Muslims are in fact enemies of the free world is because Muhammad, Islam’s lone prophet and Allah’s singular voice, was a ruthless and dedicated terrorist/pedophile himself! Islamic militants, which are called ‘insurgents’ today by appeasers/apologists of Islam are actually ‘good” Muslims, not bad ones. The jihadists haven’t corrupted Islam, hijacked their religion, nor interpreted it incorrectly, and therefore they aren’t radicals.

Islam isn’t a peaceful religion; it is a declaration of war against all mankind. While bad Muslims can be moderate and peaceful, they have no influence because the koran tells good Muslims to kill them.

How is it that you muslim apologists and appeasers are so ill-informed about the ROOT cause of this terrorism that political, religious, academic, financial, and media leaders get away with such errant proclamations that islam is “peaceful”??

Wake up people…it is NOT a country we are fighting against, it is a idealogy that we have to fight because their teachings and history are VERY CLEAR on the subject!!

Actually the more APT logical inference would be to make the connection between GINGRICH (and by extension all the OTHER ideological idiots who "make political hay" out of this whole NONSENSE "issue") and the ghost of the "Nazi" mindset. For BOTH groups of FOOLS capitalized on the simplistic attitudes of evidently the SUBSTANTIAL PREPONDERANCE (~72% or so?) of "We the (small) People" --- who simply seem not to be happy unless they can conjure up some boogeyman.

Of course perhaps that is just a diversion away from the REAL, SERIOUS problems we all collectively face --- "bread and circuses" to divert the attention of the masses. Instead of facing up to actual ECONOMIC difficulties, let's all "go off on a toot" getting exercised about HOKUM, whipping up emotions about the supposed, merely SYMBOLIC significance of how the deck chairs are arranged aboard the Titanic. BRILLIANT, people!

The far right needs demons in order to maintain their hold on the flock. The Soviet Union was the the demon for 40+ years. Now they have Islam and it's pursuit of thought control. Islamic thought control is contrary to Christian thought control and thusly we have a conflict that may be constitutional in scope. Where do we draw the line on freedom? On that note; Gingrich should be stifled.

What on earth was President Obama thinking? Did his advisors actually tell him to go “Pro Ground Zero mosque” with 90 days until the midterms when Democrats are about to get sliced up like a Hibachi Steak at Benihana?

Did someone on his team point to Iran and said, “Don’t worry Mr. President, we can win with 32% of the vote, Ahmadinejad did it, so let’s go pro Ground Zero mosque today?”

I had relatives who were killed and maimed by the Southerners who took up arms and waged violence against the United Stated of America during the Civil War. Curiously enough we still tolerate certain States and citizens who continue to fly the Stars and Bars, a most vivid symbol of domestic terrorism and human abuse. There are organizations that perform reinactments of that crime of treason. Even southern women have an organization called the Daughters of the Confederacy that promotes the merits of that terrible war. Newt is from one of those States where people are still insistant on the rightousness of that event. He has no room to be critical of Muslims who I don't believe are even attempting to make hay from the mosque construction. And what if they were? The ability to stand on principles, even if we disagree, and still live peacefully side by side, is what makes America great.

Newt Gingrich is a Christian Bigot ... pure and simple ... nothing new here ... his mother should have used the morning after pill ... unless it were the immaculate conception ... in which case he must be forgiven ... for he doesn't know what he's saying ... or doing ... eli eli lama sabachtani ...

Newt Gingrich is a Christian Bigot ... pure and simple ... nothing new here ... his mother should have used the morning after pill ... unless it were the immaculate conception ... in which case he must be forgiven ... for he doesn't know what he's saying ... or doing ... eli eli lama sabachtani ...

Newt Gingrich is a Christian Bigot ... pure and simple ... nothing new here ... his mother should have used the morning after pill ... unless it were the immaculate conception ... in which case he must be forgiven ... for he doesn't know what he's saying ... or doing ... eli eli lama sabachtani ...

Newt Gingrich is a Christian Bigot ... pure and simple ... nothing new here ... his mother should have used the morning after pill ... unless it were the immaculate conception ... in which case he must be forgiven ... for he doesn't know what he's saying ... or doing ... eli eli lama sabachtani ...

Anyone catch Newt's wife interviewed the other day? Her comments were that she is terrified of the man , afraid of his mental stability...that he lives in a world he's made up since the ethics charges against him happened.....what a scary, scary creature.

"Nazis don't have the right to put up a sign next to the holocaust museum in Washington." Any poster insisting that Gingrich is thereby calling pro-mosquers, or anyone, for that matter, a Nazi can neither read nor think.

Newt is right on the mark; radical muslims have a long history of ties with the Nazis and in many ways share similar beliefs, namely racial/ethinic superiority, mass exterminations, formation of a Caliphate, etc.

In fact in many ways fundamental Islamism is just another hateful "ism". Like Nazism, Communism, etc. radical islam will be defeated by Democratic forces. People just need to wake up and realize who these people are and what their goals are.

Even if he hadn't cheated on both of his first 2 wives and served one of them with divorce papers while she was in the hospital battling cancer, I still would think Gingrinch is so despicable an excuse for a human being that words fail me. He is scum whose entire career has been built on inciting hatred.

I am to the right of Genghis Kahn on my politics, but this is a country of laws, not demagogues. I guess Gingrich thinks a Platos Retreat would be a better use for the property? How 'bout a therapy center for lying, cheating, hypocrite ex-speakers of the house? The site is under utilized now and a church, no matter what denomination, is a better use.

Newt Gingrich is an old southern bigot who blows the dog whistle for other bigots and discriminators whenever he thinks there is blood in the water. Bigots who burn with racist hate 24/7 like Newt Gingrich have a very difficult time covering up the racist hate. They are driven by their racist hatred. They burn with racist hatred 24 hours a day.

Just another old bloody-jawed southern bigot spewing racist hate and giving the shout out to other racist bigots to crawl out of America's toilet of racism, bigotry and discrimination.

I'm sorry, but why does Matt DeLong report this without pointing out that Newt's statement is wrong? Leaving aside that the situations is not at all analogous to what is happening in lower Manhattan, Nazis would absolutely have the right to buy ad space from a willing partner near that Holocaust museum.

The rest of us, of course, could denounce it and encourage the landowner not to deal with them, but there is no question at all that they have the right to do it, and that the government, under the First Amendment, would not be able to stop them.

Notice how right-wingers always manage to work the word "Nazi" into a conservation. Its almost like a mantra to them. What is so scary, though, is so many of them act just like them. They have made this country look so much like 1930s Germany it is enough to scare the pee out a rational human being of any political persuasion.

Gingrinch is not even his real name! "Newt Gingrich was born Newton Leroy McPherson, on June 17, 1943, in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, to nineteen-year-old Newton Searles McPherson and sixteen-year-old Kathleen Daugherty, who were married in September 1942.[3][4] His mother raised him by herself until she married Robert Gingrich, who then adopted Newt" Leroy McPherson, hein?

This whole discussion is TOTAL BS!! You're an idiot of you think this project has ANYTHING to do with Ground Zero. Here are the FACTS--The "Park51" project, as it's officially named, is planed for a site fully two blocks from where the World Trade Center towers fell, amid other lower Manhattan establishments whose names have never featured the words "Ground Zero." If built, the community center and mosque project will be one of hundreds of buildings located within blocks of Ground Zero — a densely populated area that ALREADY includes a couple of mosques, along with less-"hallowed" institutions likes strip clubs, bars and Off Track Betting operations. Time to stop the hyperbole and ranting folks.

In July 1863, hundreds of Christians destroyed blocks of property in midtown Manhattan because the opposed the American way of life and refused to allow the draft of soldiers entering the civil war. Now, what stands less than a block from the spot where these Christians beat people and destroyed buildings in their anti-American frenzy? A YMCA - a Christian activity center. Why don't the politicians stand firm and demand that the YMCA tear down this buildng and instead have a mutlifaith center built in its place?

Please demonstrate where gingrich suggests federal control of the issue?

I think he just wants logic to dominate the discussion.

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I'm foolish? I hate to think of what that would make you. Tell me when any rational discussion was ever advanced by name-calling. In fact, name-calling is taught in many college composition courses as a logical fallacy.

I think reasonable people realize that building a Muslim community center within a few blocks of ground zero might be tasteless and inconsiderate (or, as we say in the south, tacky) but there's no prohibition on tacky. And only the New York authorities can issue the necessary permits.

We'd all get further if people on the conservative end of this discussion and others quit using name calling as their strategy of choice and tried to address issues and facts.

This is Newt Ginrich; one whose character has been exposed and opinions are not relevant. Ginrich is yesterdays tabloid news.

However, one is reminded once again of the dangers that lurk under slime covered rocks and in the dark corners of a hateful mind.

This voice from the right wing does ring clear however, reminding us that the threat of this warped thinking is why we find ourselves struggling today and why we should do everything to prevent it from happening again.

Our constitution allows all types of voices to express their opinions, but American's have the right to turn them off too.

Hey Newt, Karma is going to get you baby. No, I will probably not see it, or even know it, but you will. It's just math, nothing personal, Newton said it all in his 3d Law....Many of us now simply say "what goes around comes around". So you see it is not about my wanting or not wanting it to happen to you...again its just the math. Frankly, I don't care, but as one who has gotten my paybacks, just thought I would warn you. By the way, all these other yokels Posting garbage and spewing hatred, you too are in direct line of fire. Hell, if you are at least twenty-five you should have experienced one of those "what the f... moments by now". Before leaving this, Karma is really cumulative and so the more pain you cause others the more you receive exponentially. Got to go folks...look alive.

Hey Newt, Karma is going to get you baby. No, I will probably not see it, or even know it, but you will. It's just math, nothing personal, Newton said it all in his 3d Law....Many of us now simply say "what goes around comes around". So you see it is not about my wanting or not wanting it to happen to you...again its just the math. Frankly, I don't care, but as one who has gotten my paybacks, just thought I would warn you. By the way, all these other yokels Posting garbage and spewing hatred, you too are in direct line of fire. Hell, if you are at least twenty-five you should have experienced one of those "what the f... moments by now". Before leaving this, Karma is really cumulative and so the more pain you cause others the more you receive exponentially. Got to go folks...look alive.

we have catholic churches built in nyc after the draft riots resulted in the death of hundreds of african americans, you have baptist churches all over the south were lynchings occured for decades but 15 wacko muslims means a religion is restricted from where it can locate houses of worship. hatred reigns. a greedy ships captain caused the drowning death of hundreds of free union prisoners after the ciivil war but his name appears on the memorial. i wonder if spain should outlaw catholic churches becauses of the excesses of the inquisition. aren't there christian churches in new england towns where the "faithful" drowned and tortured "witches."

Not really. If we cared about innocent lives lost we'd be having tougher and more restrictive traffic laws.

For many American's 9-11 is no more than a reason to foster hate. Yet many American's refuse to step up to the plate and join the military services. So far the hate is just about ready to destroy the US Constitution. That is hate turned against self. Sick! We even have many a dork politician signing up for the hate brigade. Unamazingly stupid people!

Maybe ground zero should be converted into a center for religious acceptance and celebration:
build a mosque at ground zero
build a catholic church at ground zero
build a mormon temple at ground zero
build a jewish temple at ground zero
build a congregational church at ground zero
build a budhist temple at ground zero
build an athiest hall of meditation at ground zero.

Someone needs to tell Newt the G man that the Nazi's persecuted, torchered, and slaughtered innocent jews in Germany and elsewhere. Muslims did not persecute or murder anyone at Ground zero...it was Al Qaida. So here Newt is basically persecuting Muslims in total when a small extremist group was the guilty party. Isn't Newt really the one who seems to be the Nazi like party in all of this?

Hitler blamed all jews for the greed of the German bankers.... So Newt is blaming all Muslims for the heinous bombing of the world trade center.

Newt is thinking like a Nazi....not the Muslims who want to build a mosque 2 full city blocks from ground zero.

Thanks for that amazing display of ignorance. Thanks for showing us you have no idea about this mosque or what it stands for. And Thanks for showing how ignorant Fox and its followers (yes you) are when it comes to adult matters. Maybe you should look up the term radical islam, since you dont understand the difference between peaceful Muslims and radical muslims. So let me try to explain it to you, in the early 1900's thru the 1970's you had a terrorist group called the Klu Klux Klan, who killed blacks because and they said it was gods will. Now do we in this country not allow churches to be built? Even though more blacks were killed in this period than people we have lost to all terrorist acts? Are there churches next to the Murrah building in OKC? Or how about the Olympic bomber who was deeply religous? Or the religious nut that killed the doctor in Kansas? All religions have nuts. What is your excuse?

Just another dumba## part of the left wing colluding media that doesn't understand the analogy here. Radical Islam terrorists blew up two major US buildings killing 3000 plus Americans and they want to put up a victory symbol next to their victory site 9/11 site.

Congratulations Gingrich for making a good analogy. Delong deserves a swirly for his propaganda and stupidity.

Well, here's my opinion. No Armed Muslim ever planted a CROSS on my front lawn, set it on FIRE, and then called for my parents to come out of the house. I guess you know where I stand on this matter. 40% of the Muslims in America are African-Americans. It's the same old RACISM dressed up in different clothes! Why can't they build their COMMUNITY CENTER on the other side of the tracks!

BUILD A CHRISTIAN CHURCH NEXT TO MY HOUSE? OH NO YOU DON'T!
Army of God attacks abortion clinics. 1996 Olympic Park bombing tied to the Christian movements. "Concerned Christians" deported 1999 from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem. Anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdered Dr.George Tiller. Dennis Rader,the BTK killer, was a Deacon of Christ Lutheran Church. And on and on and on..

BUILD A CHRISTIAN CHURCH NEXT TO MY HOUSE? OH NO YOU DON'T!
Army of God attacks abortion clinics. 1996 Olympic Park bombing tied to the Christian movements. "Concerned Christians" deported 1999 from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem. Anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdered Dr.George Tiller. Dennis Rader,the BTK killer, was a Deacon of Christ Lutheran Church. And on and on and on..

BUILD A CHRISTIAN CHURCH NEXT TO MY HOUSE? OH NO YOU DON'T!
Army of God attacks abortion clinics. 1996 Olympic Park bombing tied to the Christian movements. "Concerned Christians" deported 1999 from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem. Anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdered Dr.George Tiller. Dennis Rader,the BTK killer, was a Deacon of Christ Lutheran Church. And on and on and on..

BUILD A CHRISTIAN CHURCH NEXT TO MY HOUSE? OH NO YOU DON'T!
Army of God attacks abortion clinics. 1996 Olympic Park bombing tied to the Christian movements. "Concerned Christians" deported 1999 from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem. Anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdered Dr.George Tiller. Dennis Rader,the BTK killer, was a Deacon of Christ Lutheran Church. And on and on and on..

Hey Newt, Karma is going to get you baby. No, I will probably not see it, or even know it, but you will. It's just math, nothing personal, Newton said it all in his 3d Law....Many of us now simply say "what goes around comes around". So you see it is not about my wanting or not wanting it to happen to you...again its just the math. Frankly, I don't care, but as one who has gotten my paybacks, just thought I would warn you. By the way, all these other yokels Posting garbage and spewing hatred, you too are in direct line of fire. Hell, if you are at least twenty-five you should have experienced one of those "what the f... moments by now". Before leaving this, Karma is really cumulative and so the more pain you cause others the more you receive exponentially. Got to go folks...look alive.

BUILD A CHRISTIAN CHURCH NEXT TO MY HOUSE? OH NO YOU DON'T!
Army of God attacks abortion clinics. 1996 Olympic Park bombing tied to the Christian movements. "Concerned Christians" deported 1999 from Israel on suspicion of planning to attack holy sites in Jerusalem. Anti-abortionist Scott Roeder murdered Dr.George Tiller. Dennis Rader,the BTK killer, was a Deacon of Christ Lutheran Church. And on and on and on..

Wait, the only Newt Gingrich I know voted against the Clinton budget in 1993 (said it would wreck America), cheated on his wife who had cancer at the time, shut down the federal government because he didn't get a primo seat on Air Force One, and basically oversaw the impeachment, which was wildly unpopular with voters (and during which he was having yet another affair). He resigned in 1998 after the republicans saw the worst mid term defeat in 64 years by a party not holding the white house. The Post certainly most be posting comments by some other Gingrich -- because the one with the history listed here clearly has nothing worth sharing (personally, politically, or intellectually).

Newt's mother was a manic depressive who he was told was his elder sister. Something tells me that the apple hasn't fallen far from the tree. Here's a quote from VANITY FAIR from his 2nd wife:
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He asked her to just tolerate the affair, an offer she refused.

He'd just returned from Erie, Pennsylvania, where he'd given a speech full of high sentiments about compassion and family values.

The next night, they sat talking out on their back patio in Georgia. She said, "How do you give that speech and do what you're doing?"

"It doesn't matter what I do," he answered. "People need to hear what I have to say. There's no one else who can say what I can say. It doesn't matter what I live."
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Well said Newt. Fortunately, not all of us are the mindless idiots you think us to be.

So when they finally re-build an office building on this "sacred space", will Mr. Gingrich lead the fight to have that temple of capitalism torn down? The convent at Auschwitz is in no way on point and it is plain stupid to compare the Holocaust to this terrorist attack. My Fox News zombie co-worker is the widow of a former Luftwaffe officer who made his home in America and built a life here. I asked her how she would have felt if he had been persecuted and denied the right to live here because he once was our enemy. And of course she has no answer, because Fox News doesn't hate white Protestants.

This is just the kind of opportunistic logorrhea you would expect from Newt Gingrich.

Years ago, when he held some power as Speaker of the House, he referred to himself as an academic. His view of what constitutes an academic is a teaching position in a local university. I don't believe he ever was peer-reviewed, and his statements would not pass muster in any reputable university. In this, he reminds me of what he is accusing these people of being--Nazis. I remember Dr. Joseph Goebbels--the Reichspropagandaminister--was also an "academic" by virtue of his doctorate.

Gingrich and Goebbels are spouting the same type of toxicity, albeit using different names. But in both worlds--what currently passes as the GOP and Nazi Germany--the politics of exclusion are paramount. To garner support from ignorant people, they demonize one particular group of people and tell their supporters that getting rid of these people will make everything peachy. When this doesn't work, they find another group of victims (never themselves), and so on.

When the GOP trots out comparisons to the Nazis, they are looking into the mirror at their current behavior--including the "teabaggers"--people who are too stupid to realize that their name is slang for a sexual behavior that they condemn as being "against nature."

My family survived Hitler, and, with a bit of luck, will survive Gingrich, Palin, and the other ignorant/hatemongers.

and Gingrich is wrong on another count. If there were any private property next to the Holocaust Museum, a Nazi group could build a center for the appreciation of Hitler. But since there isn't, they would have to be content with carrying signs on the federal park land across the street, which would also be protected by the First Amendment, which Gingrich seems to have forgotten.

Do you think that the First Amendment requires that the government allow Japanese-Americans to float a house of worship the exact same distance (two blocks) from the USS Arizona Memorial?

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it's navigable water, so you can't float anything on a permanent basis, but if it were otherwise private property, that's exactly what the First Amendment requires. There is absolutely no legal basis for preventing a private landowner from building anything otherwise in compliance with local zoning laws, including a shrine to the pilots of the Japanese planes.

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Why go that far? Just ask our allies who rounded up their own citizens and sent them to death camps,and those who did the killing. None of them it appears, was a Muslim country or faith. That too, my dear, is part of a well documented chapter of world history.

Newt is running hard for prez. I can't say I'm a bit surprised that this odious slug would make the most outrageous statements to pander to his base. Someone with a PhD in history should know how distorted such statements are. These statements shouldn't be explained away or otherwise excused as mere overheated rhetoric during a political season. They are factually wrong, he knows it, and he is morally culpable for making such statements.

May he NEVER regain power.

[For the record, I think the proposed Islamic center is an enormous PR mistake on the part of its promoters. But Newt's recent piece about it was WRONG on so many accounts, including constitutional ones. And he wants to be prez. Ugh.]

The surest way to lose any argument is to compare your opponent or his or her motives to Nazi Germany. There was one Nazi Germany and one Hitler, and there simply is nothing in America that compares to what they did. And Gingrich wants to be president? Never!

First of all, thanks, Mr. Gingrich, for reminding me how I should always use the Holocaust and Nazis for analogies.

I've been thinking how strikingly comparable Fox News and people like you are to Nazi propaganda. Both spew hatred and fear with constant reminders that someone else (usually a minority group) is to blame for their hardships. Just like the Nazis blame the Jews for everything; Fox News and people like you blame the President and minorities (cleverly disguised using terms like socialism and illegal immigrants and include a few Whites like Pelosi and Reid so that it is not too obvious that they are racists) for every hardship that we face.

For the record, I do not believe the mosque should be built near Ground Zero but I plead with Fox News to give us a break and not use the Holocaust and Nazi analogy for everything. Also while I am at it, please do not associate what you have to say with Christianity. Christ wants us to look after the poor, and the weak - what you people detest and frown upon. Please remember the beginning of the Lord's prayer:
Our Father who art in Heaven, hallowed be Thy Name.

A Muslim: a person who will kill another person if that other person is not a Muslim. A Moderate Muslim: A Muslim who will use a sword and one swift chop to cut off a person's head. Most Muslims prefer the slower and more torturous sawing like motion using a carving knife as their preferred method of beheading. Islam: the religion of peace, made up of Muslims.

Let's start a list of Nazis somewhere, and send it to Gingrich so he can round them up when the time comes:
President Obama
Mayor Bloomberg,
The Iman that the State Department sent to represent our country
All the Muslims
All the non-Muslims who believe in our constitution,
Know anyone to add to this list?

What is with the republicans and this NAZI stuff? Every time they get upset over something they start calling people NAZI's.
Gingrich is such a self serving hypocrite, blow hard. Having him run for president would be as big a joke as Palin.

Gingrich just doesn't get it. He's supposed to believe in local control--but he wants to make a local zoning/land use issue a national matter. Will the mosque be offensive? To some people it surely will be, but if there were a law against giving offense Gingrich would be doing hard time.

Harry Reid's words don't usually resonate with me, but in this case, I believe he said all that needs to be said on the issue of the mosque:

"If the Republicans are being sincere, they would help us pass this long overdue bill to help the first responders whose health and livelihoods have been devastated because of their bravery on 9/11, rather than continuing to block this much-needed legislation."

If there is something that needs to be moved to show respect for those who died and were injured at Ground Zero, it is the bill to help first responders.

Not everything done in a democratic republic, like America, is in good taste. Freedom should mean something. It does seem that only a partial truth is known about the Islamic center. As for me, I guess I would prefer that my neighborhood be all progressive Democrats like I am so that I can feel comfortable with all of my neighbors. Personally, our freedoms have been paid for with the sweat and blood of a very diverse group of patriots - pick just about any any ethnicity and you will find it represented.

Just like the original Patriot Act was anything but patriotic, this recent flare up does not reflect well on an open and free society.

Newt is showing by his rhetoric that he is anything but a historian. Newt - like Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, and Rush - is just a puff of hotair and has no clue what being a real American is all about.

Exactly how far from the site does the mosque need to be to appease these fear-mongering haters? Is five blocks far enough? How about ten? Maybe just through the forest and over the woods would be okay.

What if, instead of a mosque, it was going to be an ethnic supermarket that catered to muslims? Would that still be "offensive" to the poor families of the 9/11 victims? Why are the stripclubs and the pornshops in the area not "offensive" to this "sacred, hallowed ground"?

Or is it possibly all just a bunch of contrived B.S. for the right-wing haters to be angry about. At what point are we all human beings, rather than liberals vs. conservatives, republicans vs. democrats, Americans vs. foreigners, lovers vs. fighters?

So sad that in the 21st century we still can't get along. It seems the right-wingers would all like us to revert back to the 1950's with seperate lunch counters and water fountains - Their motto should be, "If we were all white, we would be all right". But don't dare to call them rascist just cause they hate immigrants and muslims, cause these same people claim to be good, conservative christians. Never mind the fact that Jesus taught to love our neighbors (ALL of them). Never mind that He taught us to "turn the other cheek".

What an absolutely ridiculously made-up bunch of nonsense to rile up the mean-spirited, hateful, angry right. Like it or not, Karma is real, and it will be coming back around to bite this same right wing eventually.

Another attempt by the NO brain Republicans to create a social issue that will split people away from the main issues. Attempting to tie the Democrats to Nazi's is pathetic since Newt more represents a Despotic, deposed King who is trying to get a better job.
He and his ilk did more to control free speech, thwart the Constitution and try to govern by not upholding the law than any group of politicians since McCarthy. I would not be surprised if Newt starts wearing Brown Shirts.

And one last bit from Mother Jones:
In July of 1983, Gingrich made a name for himself in the House by demanding that Representatives Daniel Crane and Gerry Studds be expelled for having affairs with House pages. "A free country must have honest leaders if it is to remain free," he proclaimed.

"We are in deep trouble as a society. . . . People are looking for a guidepost as to how they should live, how their institutions should behave, and who they should follow.

"Our decisions are not made today about two individuals; our decisions are made today about the integrity of freedom, about belief in our leaders, about the future of this country, about what we should become."

For many in Carrollton, the hypocrisy of these statements was too much. "I understood totally that in my hometown and among people who knew me, there would be a lot of people who would be very cynical and would say, 'Who does he think he is?"' Gingrich admits today. "And part of my conclusion is the same one I'm sure you run into. If the only people allowed to write news stories were those who had never told a lie, we wouldn't have many stories. If the only people allowed to serve on juries were saints, we wouldn't have any juries. And I thought there was a clear distinction between my private fife, and the deliberate use of a position of authority to seduce and abuse somebody in your care. And I would draw that distinction.

"I would say to you unequivocally--it will probably sound pious and sanctimonious saying it--I am a sinner. I am a normal person. I am like everyone else I ever met. One of the reasons I go to God is that I ain't very good--I'm not perfect. "

From Mother Jones:
When I asked Gingrich about this, he did not deny it. "I'm not going to get into those details or the questions about 1974. 1 think there is a level of personal life that is personal. . . . I had married my high-school math teacher two days after I was 19. In some ways it was a wonderful relationship, particularly in the early years. . . . But we had gone through a series of problems--which I regard, I think legitimately, as private--but which were real. There was an 11-year history prior to my finally breaking down, and short of someone writing a psychological biography of me, I don't think it's relevant."

Private behavior becomes relevant, I suggested, when it contradicts the rhetoric on which a public official has been elected. "Looking back, do you feel your private life and what you'd been saying in public were consistent?"

"No," Gingrich answered. "In fact I think they were sufficiently inconsistent that at one point in 1979 and 1980, I began to quit saying them in public. One of the reasons I ended up getting a divorce was that if I was disintegrating enough as a person that I could not say those things, then I needed to get my life straight, not quit saying them. And I think that literally was the crisis I came to. I guess I look back on it a little bit like somebody who's in Alcoholics Anonymous--it was a very, very bad period of my life, and it had been getting steadily worse. . . . I ultimately wound up at a point where probably suicide or going insane or divorce were the last three options."

I so sincerely hope Newt runs for President in 2012. I am so looking forward to watching this smug liar have to swallow his pride and offer his "gracious concession speech". Nothing would put a smile on my face like watching a racist Georgia redneck like Newt concede that he lost to a black man, and try to look classy while doing it.

Barack Obama has more political talent in his big toe than Newt has in his entire body. Newt would lose by 40 points. GO NEWT!!

He wasn't much of an historian, not much of an academic, as it turned out he was a pretty lousy Speaker of the House. And of course, he was an equally lousy spouse. All in all he just sounds pretty lousy.

The comparison to Nazis is more accurate than you think. If the Washington Post would provide it's readers with historical documentation and photographs of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and his complicity with Hitler many would understand, However, I doubt this newspaper will do the politically incorrect research, so folks do you own. Everything from the "final solution", to the building of Auschwitz, have the Grand Muftis fingerprints

Oh yeah, that's right, it is the NAZIs who said that people should be able to do whatever they want with their private property and it was the NAZIs who said we need to be tolerant of other religions. You know, I sure am glad that Newt, the former History Professor, was able to put into perspective what NAZIs really stood for. Thank you NEWT!!!

Oh yeah, that's right, it is the NAZIs who said that people should be able to do whatever they want with their private property and it was the NAZIs who said we need to be tolerant of other religions. You know, I sure am glad that Newt, the former History Professor, was able to put into perspective what NAZIs really stood for. Thank you NEWT!!!

Oh yeah, that's right, it is the NAZIs who said that people should be able to do whatever they want with their private property and it was the NAZIs who said we need to be tolerant of other religions. You know, I sure am glad that Newt, the former History Professor, was able to put into perspective what NAZIs really stood for. Thank you NEWT!!!

Oh yeah, that's right, it is the NAZIs who said that people should be able to do whatever they want with their private property and it was the NAZIs who said we need to be tolerant of other religions. You know, I sure am glad that Newt, the former History Professor, was able to put into perspective what NAZIs really stood for. Thank you NEWT!!!

Oh yeah, that's right, it is the NAZIs who said that people should be able to do whatever they want with their private property and it was the NAZIs who said we need to be tolerant of other religions. You know, I sure am glad that Newt, the former History Professor, was able to put into perspective what NAZIs really stood for. Thank you NEWT!!!

The only Nazi here is Newt Gingrich who conveniently forgets he supported the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA) sponsored by RepublicanT Orin Hatch and unanimously passed by Congress in July 2000.

This act alone makes it illegal for New York City to deny the requisite zoning permits for the proposed mosque near Ground Zero.

Now don't get me wrong. I think the choice of this site was incredibly callous and insensitive. But that is NOT a legal basis for denying its zoning permits.

"No government shall impose or implement a land use regulation that discriminates against any assembly or institution on the basis of religion or religious denomination."

The only reason anybody opposes this center is that it is Muslim -- a religious denomination -- and a chance to score political points. As a long-time zoning attorney and city planner, it's extremely clear to me that denial would be a blatant violation of this federal law that these same Republicans wrote and unanimously approved ten years ago.

Newt -- you don't get to pick and choose which laws you obey. That's what the Nazis did.

Newt -- you don't get to rewrite history. That's what the Nazi's did.

Newt -- you don't get to be a political demagogue without eventually paying the price. That's what the Nazis did.

And that same fate shall eventually befall you when the American people realize you and the RepublicanT Party are taking them for a ride down the path to friendly fascism once again.

Gingrich is morally bankrupt, a complete sellout and only interested in his own advancement. Stating that an African American and a Jew are like Nazis is beyond absurd. The guy has a great sense of proportion.

Tee it up fritz. Can't resist. Hope you have big hand and lots of fingers as Congressman Sestak has about thrity years all by himself. Then of course there are Senators Webb, Kerry, Reed, Harkin, Dodd, Inouye (a medal of honor winner) along with over a dozen representatives all who served or are serving. Now contrast that with this list:

McConnell, Kyl, Cornyn, Ensign (only action he saw was with buddy's wife), Boehner, Blunt, Giuliani, Romney, Armey, Hastert, Cheney (remember him), Santorum, George Allen, Karl Rove and good old Newt. What do they all have in common? Yeah, they never served a day in uniform and in many cases went out of their way (Cheney seven times) to avoid service. So please save the Dems can't talk about military service wouldya? It belittles my own 24 years in uniform and I have been a Democrat all my life.

Just like Newt; hyperbole and zero substance. Congressman Sestack, Sen Reed from RI, Sen Kerry, Congressman Murphy, Congressman Rangel just to name a few off the top of my head. Hope you have large hand with many fingers as Sestack alone had about 30 years of service?

Gingrich is the poster boy for hypocrisy. I hope he is dumb enough to run for President and I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to make him their nominee. Today's conservatives seem to hate the constitution, and hate freedom, so Gingrich would be the right man to lead them to oblivion.

"So lets take this a step further and ban Christian churches from the vicinity of every location where the KKK once burned a cross or someone was attacked as part of a hate crime. Don't like that? It's the same thing."

Posted by: Tudorn | August 16, 2010 3:05

Agreed. Do these right-wing constitution-haters oppose building a Christian church near the site of the Oklahoma City bombing, which was committed by the right-wing Christian fundamentalist Tim McVeigh?

There must come a time, in a thinking society, when mothers and daughters and sisters are put beyond the wiles and whims of the lawyers and the law makers... A time when we and our leaders, both collectively and individually, have the intestinal fortitude to put what is 'right' before what is merely 'legal'.
Perhaps that time is now?

One question for the media: Why do you continue to give this man a platform? He has, time and time again, shown himself to be a complete joke. Yet, you keep him on the stage of public opinion. It's time to get the hook and have an involuntary stage left. And I mean "left" as a definite pun.
One question for Newt: How many wives have you cheated on? Actually answer that question and I will begin to listen to you.

So lets take this a step further and ban Christian churches from the vicinity of every location where the KKK once burned a cross or someone was attacked as part of a hate crime. Don't like that? It's the same thing.

Seems there is nothing a Republican hates more than the U.S. Constitution. And as any conservative will tell you, that pesky First Amendment and those socialistic protections of property rights need to be done away with ASAP - especially when they can be applied to non Christians who might not be entirely white.

"We wish to offer both foreigners and Japanese a warm welcome. Hiroshima Union Church is an evangelical, English-speaking church serving the international and local communities in the Hiroshima, Japan area. We seek to provide a place of worship and ministry for those coming to Hiroshima for a shorter period of time as well as for long-term residents of the area. We enjoy the diversity of the different nationalities, denominations and traditions represented within our group.
We are a group of Christians gathered together to provide a place of understanding, hope and renewal in a continuously changing and uncertain world. We work together to experience and share the benefits of the Christian faith with others - and invite you to discover the acceptance, love, and life that we have found in Jesus Christ.
HUC seeks to serve you in a variety ways by addressing the personal, cultural and spiritual needs that we all encounter in our lives."

Directions:
HUC is held in the main sanctuary inside "The Church of the Resurrection". It is a brown brick building on Jonan Dori, diagonally across from the Royal Host restaurant. Take the #9 streetcar (Hakushima Line) to the Jogakuin stop and walk East 5 minutes along Jonan Dori. The church is on the left-hand side, before the bridge to Hiroshima Train Station.

Newt also had to take over the DEMOCRAT run DC government and fix it ..........too.

Newt's a conservative.......and so he will be mock and smeared for that......

But he did bring us the budget surpluses....PERIOD

Posted by: allenridge

No, No he didn't. He is mocked and smeared for being a hypocrite: trashing Clinton about Lewinsky having disposed of his first wife for a newer model - while she was in the hospital, going after a Democrat Speaker of the House for behavior he would engage in himself. Face it, Newt has no moral compass other than himself. To boot his has at best a third rate intellect. I recall him proposing that we turn the Space Station into a burn unit, mind you he completely ignored how we were going to get the burn victims up there. He is a power hungry pol who serves only himself. I wouldn't even call him conservative - if you mean as defined by William Buckley. He is at best a tinpot dictator without a country to run.

"Do you think that they would let Christians build a church next to Mecca?"

Yeah, that's the difference between the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, we offer freedom of religion and they don't. You want to restrict rights granted by the Constitution? Go live in a country other than the United States of America.

I wasn't aware that this Islamic group actually owned the land already. In that case, other than asking nicely, there isn't anything anyone can legally do to stop them from building a mosque on the site.

"We wish to offer both foreigners and Japanese a warm welcome. Hiroshima Union Church is an evangelical, English-speaking church serving the international and local communities in the Hiroshima, Japan area. We seek to provide a place of worship and ministry for those coming to Hiroshima for a shorter period of time as well as for long-term residents of the area. We enjoy the diversity of the different nationalities, denominations and traditions represented within our group.
We are a group of Christians gathered together to provide a place of understanding, hope and renewal in a continuously changing and uncertain world. We work together to experience and share the benefits of the Christian faith with others - and invite you to discover the acceptance, love, and life that we have found in Jesus Christ.
HUC seeks to serve you in a variety ways by addressing the personal, cultural and spiritual needs that we all encounter in our lives."

Directions:
HUC is held in the main sanctuary inside "The Church of the Resurrection". It is a brown brick building on Jonan Dori, diagonally across from the Royal Host restaurant. Take the #9 streetcar (Hakushima Line) to the Jogakuin stop and walk East 5 minutes along Jonan Dori. The church is on the left-hand side, before the bridge to Hiroshima Train Station.

No one is saying to round up Muslim Americans into internment camps (a DEMOCRAT did that to Japanese Americans BTW). Do you think that the First Amendment requires that the government allow Japanese-Americans to float a house of worship the exact same distance (two blocks) from the USS Arizona Memorial?

"We wish to offer both foreigners and Japanese a warm welcome. Hiroshima Union Church is an evangelical, English-speaking church serving the international and local communities in the Hiroshima, Japan area. We seek to provide a place of worship and ministry for those coming to Hiroshima for a shorter period of time as well as for long-term residents of the area. We enjoy the diversity of the different nationalities, denominations and traditions represented within our group.
We are a group of Christians gathered together to provide a place of understanding, hope and renewal in a continuously changing and uncertain world. We work together to experience and share the benefits of the Christian faith with others - and invite you to discover the acceptance, love, and life that we have found in Jesus Christ.
HUC seeks to serve you in a variety ways by addressing the personal, cultural and spiritual needs that we all encounter in our lives."

Directions:
HUC is held in the main sanctuary inside "The Church of the Resurrection". It is a brown brick building on Jonan Dori, diagonally across from the Royal Host restaurant. Take the #9 streetcar (Hakushima Line) to the Jogakuin stop and walk East 5 minutes along Jonan Dori. The church is on the left-hand side, before the bridge to Hiroshima Train Station.

I don't have to "outbid" them (they already own the land). MY First Amendment right includes speaking out against it and picketing them too. There are other ways we can try to convince these Muslims how insensitive it is. Do you think that they would let Christians build a church next to Mecca?

Bigoted Republicans should do the same thing my bigoted Mormon neighbors did when they found out a black family was buying a house in our neighborhood - get together and buy the property first. I'm sure the seller won't mind the extra payoff.

I don't have to personally try crack cocaine to know it's bad for you.

Posted by: clawrence12 |

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I'm not on crack. I am on a natural high, if you know what I mean and I am highly serious.

I am not sure who you are, or what political party of the spectrum you belong to; however, I CANNOT stand Extremist of any kind, which is what the Extreme Right Wing is. How in the world do the Extremist on the Right side of our Democracy, believe that they can just go around taking people's rights away just because they say so.

If there were any mention of taking Free Speech or Gun Rights, or All of those Rights that the Right-Wingers advocate with all of their mean spirited souls there would be a CIVIL war in this country.

Therefore, we are NOT about to start allowing the Right-Wingeeerrrr', or any other Wingerrr's to begin "dismantling" our Constitution just because of their bigotry and racist hate towards others who don't look like them or think like them.

Is the plan to build a mosque near the Sept. 11 site in poor taste? You bet! Is it their right? Absolutely, unless you don't believe in the First Amendment and the free-market economy.

If Newt and other neo-cons are so vehemently opposed to the project, buy the land. They could use the space to construct a museum honoring the music of Lee Greenword or the films of Ronald Reagan. Put your money where your mouth is and stop this project the best way a free-market economy can; out bid them.

Don't go looking for government to step in and stop it. That is not government's role, federal, state, or local. Anything short of out bidding the group seeking to build a mosque is simply an attempt to make political hay out of nothing.

Gringrinch fits right in with his newly found American Catholicism whose leader Bill Donohue called child rape victims of pervert priests "gold diggers."

Meanwhile, old white joedumbass can't recognize this whole bru-ha-ha as a Rovian ploy to exploit another religious and racist wedge issue.

Thank God we at least have a President who knows and respects Constitutional law even while his balless Democratic colleagues run and hide in fear of the 25% of Americans who can only slurp up Limbaugh and in fear of RNC Fox News.

Sorry, but with all the bigotted and racist comments I had to go back and check that I hadn't accidentally logged onto FOX. I just wonder how many of these boneheads got their racist ideas from their Sunday sermons. As for Newt, he's just using the old republican misdirection ploy - paint your enemy in the colors you least like about yourself and maybe it will rub off. You can keep scrubbing, Newt, but nothing will ever wash the filth from your hands. Oh, and who are you divorcing this week, family values man?

lcarter0311 wrote:
he believes he can demagogue this issue to hell and back and win the support of the Extreme Right-Wing
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64% of the country is "Extreme Right-Wing"?

lcarter0311:
No. I asked because you claimed "If I am a Nazi, then there are millions of other American Citizens that I would suppose are also Natzi's [SIC]" when Speaker Gingrich simply said that the "radical Islamists" behind the proposed mosque are acting like Nazis. If you are not a radical Islamist, don't worry about it.

Posted by: clawrence12

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And I suppose Gingrich has spoken directly to these Radical Islamist; otherwise, how would he know that they are (1)radical, and (2) acting like Natzi's, or is it (3) he believes he can demagogue this issue to hell and back and win the support of the Extreme Right-Wing, so that he can make a decision on whether to run for office in 2012.

calif-joe wrote:
he has no moral capital left to say anything, he's a lying adulterer, a failed human being, I wish he could still be stoned to death for his many mistresses.
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You are talking about Bill Clinton, right?

Newt and his pals believe in the strict interpretation of the Constitution, except they would like to rewrite the 1st, 10th, and 14th amendments! The guy has been married 3 times, cheated on his wife and divorced her while she was in the hospital with cancer, and at the same time castigated Clinton for his affair. What a good Christian!

No. I asked because you claimed "If I am a Nazi, then there are millions of other American Citizens that I would suppose are also Natzi's [SIC]" when Speaker Gingrich simply said that the "radical Islamists" behind the proposed mosque are acting like Nazis. If you are not a radical Islamist, don't worry about it.

clawrence12
Let me put it straight to you about your "ifs": Gingrich will not be elected President of our country. You can use of the "ifs" that you want, nothing will change the reality. This man is unelectable, period.

Why is it Republicans always compare themselves to Christ and their opponents to Hitler/Nazis? Are they not aware of any other historical figures?
Anyway, it's unfortunate how the loud ones proclaiming how much they love America truly don't understand its basic tenets.
Posted by: sarahabc
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Well you should google "Bush Hitler" sometime and see how many people compared Bush and Cheney to Hitler and the Nazis. Bottomline bad comparison by Newt but good one by Charles Krauthammer.

"He was in no way devaluing their heartfelt mission to pray for the souls of the dead. He was teaching them a lesson in respect: This is not your place; it belongs to others. However pure your voice, better to let silence reign."

uche05 wrote:
One of the newest members of the Catholic Church...calls supporters of building the NY mosque "Nazis"?
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Where? Care to read the article before commentin?

One of the newest members of the Catholic Church - he of questionable moral values (how many times married? how many times philandering?) - calls supporters of building the NY mosque "Nazis"? So, Newt, as a supporter of the Catholic Church, that must make you a Pedophile Apologist.

One of the newest members of the Catholic Church - he of questionable moral values (how many times married? how many times philandering?) - calls supporters of building the NY mosque "Nazis"? So, Newt, as a supporter of the Catholic Church, that must make you a Pedophile Apologist.

Speaker Gingrich didn't just use the example of Nazis. Do you think that the First Amendment requires that the government allow Japanese-Americans to float a house of worship the exact same distance (two blocks) from the USS Arizona Memorial?

Comparison is not reason. Not only is this irrelevant individual mixes apples with oranges, he does so deliberately in order to induce others into error. The Japanese case does not belong in here. A country (Japan) attacked our Nation in Pearl Harbor, did a religion attack us on 911?

My hypothetical question is not about anyone who has tried and failed. Given your comment, I thought that it was a very relevant question. If (there's that word again) you'd rather not answer my question, that's fine by me.

We hired the man to uphold the Constitution and he's doing exactly that. It's not always popular and you leave yourself open to jackals like Gingrich. But he's doing EXACTLY what the job description says.

I have no idea how this turned into him comparing New Yorkers to Nazis. The only people being compared are the Muslims that want to erect the center, not people who either support or do not support it's creation.

I think people just like to feel like they have something to be offended over.

The first amendment should never be restricted to appease "the feelings" of others. If others ave a problem with it, they can exercise their first amendment rights like any other citizen rather than trying to repress the legal rights of others. To support Gingrich's viewpoint would be to support a tyranny of the majority in which an majority has the power to suppress the legal rights of any minority they have a problem with - that's no way to run a "free" society.

A society that tolerates the Westboro Baptist Church should be able to tolerate a mosque near the WTC. If all it takes to get people to restrict the first amendment is hurting the feelings and sentiments of others than I seriously, seriously question most people's commitment to the first amendment and to private property rights.

The United States Supreme Court sympathized with the Skokie residents, but allowed the National Socialist Party to march anyway. The Court ruled that the use of the swastika is a symbolic form of free speech entitled to First Amendment protections and determined that the swastika itself did not constitute "fighting words."

IS THIS WHAT YOU BELIEVE? DO YOU BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH WHEN CRITICIZING THE VIOLENT TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD?

DO YOU BELIEVE WOMEN SHOULD BE BEATEN BY THEIR HUSBANDS?

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT HOMOSEXUALS SHOULD BE KILLED?

DO YOU BELIEVE PEDOPHILIA IS "ACCEPTABLE" BECAUSE MUHAMMAD DID IT?!

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT ANYONE WHO DENOUNCES ISLAM AND BECOMES A SECULAR PERSON OR CONVERTS TO ANOTHER RELIGION SHOULD BE MURDERED - AS REQUIRED UNDER ISLAMIC LAW, WHICH WAS BASED ON THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD?

IF YOU BELIEVE THESE THINGS, THEN YOU ARE A FOLLOWER OF MUHAMMAD AND YOU WILL BE ON AN INEVITABLE PATH TO VIOLENCE AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SUBSCRIBE THE PRINCIPLES OF FREEDOM - EVER.

IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN THE TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD, THEN YOU MUST DENY ISLAM AND BECOME A SECULAR PERSON OR CONVERT TO A PEACEFUL RELIGION.

it is borderline humorous to see all of these hate mongers describing Islam as a religion of hate - if it were as bad as most of them say I am amazed they are not Muslims themselves. Gingrich doesn't seem to know the religion of the Nazis was Christianity, but based on his blaming the religion of hate groups rather than the members I am sure he is opposed to building an churches in Europe since they would be monuments to those hateful Christians that killed millions all over Europe.

Uuhh... Gingrich is supposed to be a historian. Either he's never read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" or he's conveniently turned a blind eye to the many parallels between Nazi political theory & strategy and the GOP of the last quarter century.

I really, really wish the mainstream news media would recognize and apply Godwin's law so that the next time some U.S. politician makes some absurd Nazi/Hitler comparison the media will repeat the comment as stated and rather than provide any sort of commentary. analysis or counter-point would simply say "Godwin's Law Invoked, (name) automatically concedes defeat. Argument officially over"

If they were to do this we could put an end to these asinine and laughable comparisons once and for all.

I AM A NEW YORKER. HOW DARE HE COMPARE ME TO A NAZI, this useless piece of garbage who should keep his opinions about New York to himself. I would suggest to Mr. Gingrich that he NEVER visit New York because I know that if I see him, I will spit in his face. He could, however, visit Staten Island, which has a huge trash dump, which is where Newt Gingrich belongs, along with the rest of the garbage.

I am insulted, disgusted, and sick and tired of people who do not even live in New York giving opinions about New York. It is none of your business, Mr. Gingrich, so shut that trap you call a mouth.

I love Newt's straw man. He knows the dimwits he's trying rrile up and hoodwink are too stoooopid to see the difference between a hate group like the neo-nazis and the legitimate religious organization that is building the Mosque.

Newt doesn't give a rat's patootie about the Mosque, but he does see an opportunity to rile up the nitwits in the Fox News audience. And a riled up moron is an easily manipulated moron.

If we don't allow a mosque near Ground Zero, we should probably tear down the two churches across the street from the Oklahoma City Bombing Memorial. Don't want to send a message that Christian Fascist violence is okay...and its pretty equally insensitive. We are not a nation of hypocrites, are we?

I know Gingrich is one of the most cynical political operatives out there but this is completely idiotic.

Why? Imagine this. There is one group, composed largely of members belonging to majority groups in America (whites, Christians) who refuses to allow Muslims, a very small minority group in America, to practice their religion near the WTC. What you have hear is a frightened, somewhat xenophobic majority trying to, out of fear, angrily repress the legal rights of a minority.

If anyone is behaving Nazi-like in this ordeal, it isn't those in favour of the mosque...

I'm continually amazed at how angry, ultra-militaristic nationalistic xenophobes who seem to consider all homosexuals, Hispanics and Muslims mortal enemies of America based on ignorance and ham-fisted demagoguery and propaganda fail to see the irony when they accuse their enemies of being Nazis. Look in the mirror.

I know Gingrich is one of the most cynical political operatives out there but this is completely idiotic.

Why? Imagine this. There is one group, composed largely of members belonging to majority groups in America (whites, Christians) who refuses to allow Muslims, a very small minority group in America, to practice their religion near the WTC. What you have hear is a frightened, somewhat xenophobic majority trying to, out of fear, angrily repress the legal rights of a minority.

If anyone is behaving Nazi-like in this ordeal, it isn't those in favour of the mosque...

I'm continually amazed at how angry, ultra-militaristic nationalistic xenophobes who seem to consider all homosexuals, Hispanics and Muslims mortal enemies of America based on ignorance and ham-fisted demagoguery and propaganda fail to see the irony when they accuse their enemies of being Nazis. Look in the mirror.

Please...Islam is a religion of HATE...always has, always will be. Anytime you open up a mosque, you are opening up a HATE center....I just can't understand why the media is so afriad to investigate the hate that is causing over 99% of today's terrorism.-zakgold
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Perhaps you could lead the charge to repeal the 1st Amendment.

Ya gotta understand Newt. He gets on TV and says asinine things for one reason. It gets a bunch of buck-toothed idgits to give him more money that he uses to live in luxury and fly around the country, where he can say more asinine things, getting more donations, etc.

Please...Islam is a religion of HATE...always has, always will be. Anytime you open up a mosque, you are opening up a HATE center....I just can't understand why the media is so afriad to investigate the hate that is causing over 99% of today's terrorism.

Now use some logic and a little history...

The very word "Islam" means "peace" IF (huge 'If' here) when you "submit and surrender to allah and their way (sharia) of life". If you don't, all bets are off and there is NO PEACE. Never has and never will be. History is clear on this.

The evidence - the only evidence - proves beyond any doubt that "good" Muslims are what we in the West deem as "terrorists" that hate anything to do with freedom and liberty is because Muhammad, Islam's lone prophet and Allah's singular voice, was a ruthless and dedicated terrorist/pedophile himself. Islamic militants, which the PC crowd deems as "insurgents" today, are actually GOOD Muslims, not bad ones.

Where are the women's groups? Where is the main stream media? Islam is a religion that even treats women like DOGS. Shoot...even the koran instructs husbands how to BEAT THEIR WIVES (4:34). You just can't make this hate up!!

The jihadists haven't corrupted Islam, hijacked their religion, nor interpreted it incorrectly, and therefore they aren't radicals. Again...Islam isn't a peaceful religion; it is a declaration of war against all mankind. It has been that way since their prophet wandered out of his cave proclaiming he spoke to allah and now must fight for him. While bad Muslims can be moderate and peaceful, they have no influence because the koran with its 100's of passages of hate tells good Muslims to kill them.

You just can't make this stuff up. See it in their koran, their Hadiths and Sura's and the religion of islam is indeed a religion of hate against all that are NON-Muslims!

Posted by: zakgold | August 16, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

I've tried to be resonable but people like this and Gingrich aren't. Flips you both the bird. Stay out of my City. It's clearly too dangerous for you. Leave what we do in NYC to New Yorkers. We'll manage to live with the muslims your both so terrified by. Crawl back under your rocks where it's safe.

So Newt compares mosque supporters to Nazis? I thought Newt was a student of history, I must be mistaken. Nazi Germany selected one religion for special persecution, they closed synagogues and convinced their citizenry of unwarranted hatred and suspicion of Jews. Similar to what he ane his crowd now are doing to law abiding Muslims in this country. I would argue that quite the opposite is true Mr. Gingrich, you and your like have decided that all things Muslim are hated and to be despised. The our Bill of Rights, like the existing German laws of the 1930's don't really apply to this one selected religion. You Mr. Gingrich are far closer to the Nazi's and their philosophy of hatred and persecution focuses on a single religion than any right thinking American. Mr. Gingrich should be saying "I have met the enemy, and he is us".

Ah, it's the same Newt from days of old. Always happy to blow things out of proportion, whip people into a frenzy over nothing, and puff out his chest as though he were the smartest man in the room. He's learned nothing in the intervening years, has he?

Please...Islam is a religion of HATE...always has, always will be. Anytime you open up a mosque, you are opening up a HATE center....I just can't understand why the media is so afriad to investigate the hate that is causing over 99% of today's terrorism.

Now use some logic and a little history...

The very word "Islam" means "peace" IF (huge 'If' here) when you "submit and surrender to allah and their way (sharia) of life". If you don't, all bets are off and there is NO PEACE. Never has and never will be. History is clear on this.

The evidence - the only evidence - proves beyond any doubt that "good" Muslims are what we in the West deem as "terrorists" that hate anything to do with freedom and liberty is because Muhammad, Islam's lone prophet and Allah's singular voice, was a ruthless and dedicated terrorist/pedophile himself. Islamic militants, which the PC crowd deems as "insurgents" today, are actually GOOD Muslims, not bad ones.

Where are the women's groups? Where is the main stream media? Islam is a religion that even treats women like DOGS. Shoot...even the koran instructs husbands how to BEAT THEIR WIVES (4:34). You just can't make this hate up!!

The jihadists haven't corrupted Islam, hijacked their religion, nor interpreted it incorrectly, and therefore they aren't radicals. Again...Islam isn't a peaceful religion; it is a declaration of war against all mankind. It has been that way since their prophet wandered out of his cave proclaiming he spoke to allah and now must fight for him. While bad Muslims can be moderate and peaceful, they have no influence because the koran with its 100's of passages of hate tells good Muslims to kill them.

You just can't make this stuff up. See it in their koran, their Hadiths and Sura's and the religion of islam is indeed a religion of hate against all that are NON-Muslims!

Why is it whenever this faction of the GOP finds something they dislike, they trot out the old Nazi comparison? And why is this even being debated in the national press? This was a local zoning issue that has already been decided by the neighborhood where the community center/mosque/whatever the hell it is will be located.

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