What I like about MfD is that it allows you to add an additional burst into the mix without using dance or blades. Everyone plays Shuriken Toss but I simply love the options with MfD. Focus Kidney Shot without the Redirect GCD and warning sound is also nice.

I havnt played 5.2 yet, but when i played subterfuge I used prem->cs->rupture->ambush/hemo etc... i never felt like spending all my energi for burst during subterfuge since i wouldnt use any cds anyway, and using both Cheap shot and garrote would put your target on DR for both stuns and silence :/ But i can imagine subterfuge being used as a way to burst now with more energi and the mfd talent

My opinion is if you choose Subterfuge you should go for MfD, too. But for example Khuna is using Subterfuge and Shuriken Toss currently. Haven't heard of a top rogue not using Shuriken Toss in 5.2 up until now.

The burst is actually pretty good with this Subterfuge opener, as you have the 10% damage increase from MoS on both Eviscerates and more uptime with Find Weakness. As Engineer you can use the gloves on the openers without dance and blades.

Essentially with Subterfuge your Dance doesn't hit as hard in the first seconds, but if you can stick to the target it catches up. And you have stronger openers when you don't use dance. For PvE Subterfuge is taken over Shadow Focus for DPS reasons.

My opinion is if you choose Subterfuge you should go for MfD, too. But for example Khuna is using Subterfuge and Shuriken Toss currently. Haven't heard of a top rogue not using Shuriken Toss in 5.2 up until now.

The burst is actually pretty good with this Subterfuge opener, as you have the 10% damage increase from MoS on both Eviscerates and more uptime with Find Weakness. As Engineer you can use the gloves on the openers without dance and blades.

Essentially with Subterfuge your Dance doesn't hit as hard in the first seconds, but if you can stick to the target it catches up. And you have stronger openers when you don't use dance. For PvE Subterfuge is taken over Shadow Focus for DPS reasons.

My opinion is if you choose Subterfuge you should go for MfD, too. But for example Khuna is using Subterfuge and Shuriken Toss currently. Haven't heard of a top rogue not using Shuriken Toss in 5.2 up until now.

The burst is actually pretty good with this Subterfuge opener, as you have the 10% damage increase from MoS on both Eviscerates and more uptime with Find Weakness. As Engineer you can use the gloves on the openers without dance and blades.

Essentially with Subterfuge your Dance doesn't hit as hard in the first seconds, but if you can stick to the target it catches up. And you have stronger openers when you don't use dance. For PvE Subterfuge is taken over Shadow Focus for DPS reasons.

Shuriken toss just does to much damage not to get anymore even with the ranged slow gone.