kmmontandon:Who's going to protect the children from the Catholic Church?

We need to find a fine, upstanding woman of good moral character that's been proven in her willingness to fight for the sanctity of marriage. And of course she must be a Christian, the more fundamentalist, the better.

Prejudice is bad enough, but I hate when people aren't honest about it and resort to Newspeak. "I'm not discriminating against gays, I'm just protecting traditional families."; "I'm not Islamophobic, I just don't want a mosque in our town."; etc.

If you call yourself a catholic, I openly think less of you. It's not bigotry when I judge you on the choices you make, and you choose to align yourself with horrible people with horrible beliefs. If you are a catholic, you suck.

Let me be clear. I support your right to believe whatever you want, but you need to understand that the only appropriate response to your beliefs is ridicule and derision. Fark off. Read a book.

Grand_Moff_Joseph:Perhaps France can set a new precedent then, and realign that 75% tax to fall directly onto the gilded altars that the Bishops use every Sunday.

Would that be the gilded altars that were built before the existence of the current republic, or the ones built before France was a republic? When you never sell anything, or get it confiscated, you tend to accumulate a lot of goodies. Of course getting 10% of all the practicing Catholics' incomes in France doesn't hurt either, even if that guy in the Vatican is taking a cut.

I have held for some time now, at least here in the US, that legal unions of people are a civil matter and that they are separate from the sacred rite of marriage as defined by the Church, whether the Church is Catholic or of one of the many Protestant sects. It is entirely possible for someone to get married in holy matrimony within the Church and not have it recognized by the state simply because the proper paperwork wasn't turned in/signed off on. Conversely, a ship's captain can perform marriages in many locations--and having known a few, they were hardly holy men. A judge can pronounce people to be wed without having even gone to any church, temple, or mosque.

The bottom line is that if Bob and Fred want to get married in front of a judge and get it legally recognized as such, that should not be taken as offensive by church going types, any more than if an atheist puts up a Christmas tree. Believers are the only ones who can get married in the Church (or Synagog, etc.) and have it counted as a sacred rite in the eyes of God. No one is trying to mock you, honest.

I agree with the Catholic Church on this one. Look at Sweden, for example. They legalized same-sex marriage and now the country is in shambles. Major cities like Stockholm and Malmö are nothing but piles of smoking ruins. Roving bands of gay vikings terrorized the countryside, descending on villages and raping the men folk. Famine and pestilence are rampant. The same is also true (except for the vikings, of course) of those states in America that have legalized it. They lie in ruins. Torn apart by the evil, horrid, homosexual monsters! In Maine women have ceased to give birth to straight babies anymore. They are all being born gay! And the worst part about all of this is that the homosexual jewish-controlled media is covering it all up! We must stand up to the homosexuals and tell them, "No way to gay!" If not, the world will fall into total ruin and every single straight man alive will be gay-raped, repeatedly, by Satan's monsters.

Right now, marriage in France is restricted to heterosexual couples. However there is also a civil union (PACS) which is open to all couples, including same-sex couples, but with fewer rights (esp. regarding children).

The newly elected government wants to introduce same-sex marriage, and apparently some people have a problem with this.

Mock26:I agree with the Catholic Church on this one. Look at Sweden, for example. They legalized same-sex marriage and now the country is in shambles. Major cities like Stockholm and Malmö are nothing but piles of smoking ruins. Roving bands of gay vikings terrorized the countryside, descending on villages and raping the men folk. Famine and pestilence are rampant. The same is also true (except for the vikings, of course) of those states in America that have legalized it. They lie in ruins. Torn apart by the evil, horrid, homosexual monsters! In Maine women have ceased to give birth to straight babies anymore. They are all being born gay! And the worst part about all of this is that the homosexual jewish-controlled media is covering it all up! We must stand up to the homosexuals and tell them, "No way to gay!" If not, the world will fall into total ruin and every single straight man alive will be gay-raped, repeatedly, by Satan's monsters.

Lesbianism, however, is still OK.

What the fark, we don't get gay vikings in the US? fark that. fark it all.

Please tell me we at least roving gangs of lesbian Amazons. I need some hope here.

crazyeddie:If you call yourself a catholic, I openly think less of you. It's not bigotry when I judge you on the choices you make, and you choose to align yourself with horrible people with horrible beliefs. If you are a catholic, you suck.

Let me be clear. I support your right to believe whatever you want, but you need to understand that the only appropriate response to your beliefs is ridicule and derision. Fark off. Read a book.

Muslims and Hindus, too? Or is this one of those Deep South "Baptists are the only way to Christ, Catholics wear dresses" kind of hatreds?

Alone in the Snark:Right now, marriage in France is restricted to heterosexual couples. However there is also a civil union (PACS) which is open to all couples, including same-sex couples, but with fewer rights (esp. regarding children).

The newly elected government wants to introduce same-sex marriage, and apparently some people have a problem with this.

How many people? Well, enough to put 300,000 to 800,000 people on the streets of Paris this afternoon.

Most of it seems to be driven by an ickiness about same-sex parenthood rather than the marriage itself. But yeah, the remnants of the Catholic electorate were also out in force.

What_Would_Jimi_Do:Alone in the Snark: Right now, marriage in France is restricted to heterosexual couples. However there is also a civil union (PACS) which is open to all couples, including same-sex couples, but with fewer rights (esp. regarding children).

The newly elected government wants to introduce same-sex marriage, and apparently some people have a problem with this.

How many people? Well, enough to put 300,000 to 800,000 people on the streets of Paris this afternoon.

Most of it seems to be driven by an ickiness about same-sex parenthood rather than the marriage itself. But yeah, the remnants of the Catholic electorate were also out in force.