A serious question; looking for the best

package holding shorts or bibs, I'm not talking chammy comfort. I mean keeping it in place like a jock strap. I have 7 different brands and only one does the job right, the squadra. On 3-5 hour mtb rides you need comfort.

I'm thinking about going to the 180+ bibs but, I want to be some what sure.

Trial and error is the only way to find what you are looking for. Nobody likes the windshield wiper effect on ever pedal stroke. Maybe drop down a size. I have Pactimo Bibs,Pearls and now my new team kits will be Primal Evo Corsa. They all fit different in that area.