We all know that the HS isn't close to meeting its sales goals, but its pretty cool that it isn't affecting the IS And ES Sales. Just another 1000 or sales to add to lexus total. Might seem like major overlap to sell 3 sedans all ranging from 30k to 45k(even though they all have different approaches, comfort, sport, and hybrid), but it seems to be working for them so far.

We all know that the HS isn't close to meeting its sales goals, but its pretty cool that it isn't affecting the IS And ES Sales. Just another 1000 or sales to add to lexus total. Might seem like major overlap to sell 3 sedans all ranging from 30k to 45k(even though they all have different approaches, comfort, sport, and hybrid), but it seems to be working for them so far.

Very good point there. Lexus has stated they want to continue to diversify their lineup as the RX used to account for more sales in regards to %. What we have seen is the RX continue to lead in its class and Lexus sell more cars so the RX% has decreased which is what Lexus wanted. Lexus offers a lot of carsCurrent
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SCComing
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Sold had a huge sales lead last month and again, they have gotten a lot of bad press. People believe in the brand and the product in bad times, which really shows how strong the brand is.

I am sure even Lexus is stunned at how well the RX is doing. They predicted sales around 80k and sales are constantly at pre-recession levels at 100k.

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^ The real question is: Would an IS and/or ES hybrid have more appeal?

My guess is yes.

I think to some but it seems people like the HS being quirky as well. As I've stated my wife and I want to love the car but ended up just liking it and styling took it off any potential list. (oddly I kind of want one as a nice lil daily).

The 3/RX amazingly are selling at pre-recession levels here and sell more than many entire brands. Next we see the E-class sedan/coupe selling more than ANY entry level vehicle and they the next class up in size/price. You can see Volvo really needs their new S60 to add some much needed volume.

Porsche will of course be at the bottom in sales as they are they are the most expensive brand here. In regards to the Panamera I am sure their transaction prices are higher than the competitions. The challenge will be will they stay at this sales pace for a couple of years.

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This is pretty amazing as it is crystal clear import "muscle cars"/coupes simply do not come close to them in sales. 370Z, Genesis Coupe, RX8, etc all sell far below these vehicles. These vehicles have their core audience as well as have improved significantly where it attracts new buyers. So whomever argues people don't want coupes needs to look at this segment. People do buy coupes.

The top six sellers(E, C, M, GLK, GL, and S) of Mercedes-Benz accounts for 94.16% of their total sales in May 2010, that is, 17464 out of 18548 vehicles sold. The remaining seven models combined were outsold by S-class itself.

The top six sellers(E, C, M, GLK, GL, and S) of Mercedes-Benz accounts for 94.16% of their total sales in May 2010, that is, 17464 out of 18548 vehicles sold. The remaining seven models combined were outsold by S-class itself.

^ The real question is: Would an IS and/or ES hybrid have more appeal?

My guess is yes.

I agree with you as well. I think an IS hybrid (IS 450h) and especially an ES hybrid (ES 450h) would definitely bring more buyers to Lexus.

The ES alone with no other variations still outsells the IS with three variations. Adding an ES hybrid would increase sales of the ES...Toyota does have a Camry hybrid and an RX hybrid which all pretty much shares the same platform.

IRVINE, CA - June 2, 2010: Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) today reported a 35.2 percent jump in sales for May 2010 with 22,605 vehicles sold. Through the first half of the year, MNAO has sold 97,481 vehicles and is outpacing last year's sales at this time by 12.5 percent.

MAZDA3 (up 53.8 percent) and CX-7 (up 55.2 percent) both more than doubled in sales when compared to last year with 11,537 and 2,513 units sold, respectively. CX-9 celebrated its best-ever May with sales of 2,518 units, accounting for a 41.1 percent increase over last year, while MAZDA6 (up 29.9 percent) and MAZDA5 (up 19.0 percent) also posted strong gains.

Rounding out the North American market, Mazda Motor de Mexico (MMdM) posted a 52.0 percent increase in sales versus May 2009 with 1,803 units sold. This boosts MMdM's year-to-date sales to 9,185, accounting for an increase of 18.0 percent versus the same period last year. Mazda Canada Inc. (MCI) reported a 1.0 percent increase over last year with 8,051 units sold, which raises its year-to-date total to 33,641 units, good for a 5.0 percent increase.

Celebrating its 40th Anniversary in the United States in 2010, Mazda North American Operations is headquartered in Irvine, Calif. and oversees the sales, marketing, parts and customer service support of Mazda vehicles in the United States, Canada and Mexico through nearly 900 dealers. Operations in Canada are managed by Mazda Canada, Inc., located in Ontario; and in Mexico by Mazda Motor de Mexico in Mexico City.

It's a good thing that Ford finally is doing away w/ Mercury b/c Lincoln is in serious need of fresh product (w/ more differentiation from Ford products, esp. w/ regard to sheetmetal).

Buick + Caddy make GM the "luxury" leader; expect that lead to grow w/ the Regal hitting the dealer lots (and once Caddy gets an STS replacement, as well as a Lambda crossover, GM's "luxury" divisions will make Lincoln an afterthought).

I don't know why that would really matter for Infiniti. The Genesis costs 10-$25K less than the M so they really aren't direct competitors.

Exactly. The Genesis V-6 3.8 starts at $33,000. That is actually below the 335, IS 350, ES 350, HS 250 in price (as well as others).The V-6 M37 starts at $46,250.

The V-8 4.6 starts at $39,000. The V-8 M56 starts at $57,500. That is almost 20 grand more.

The Genesis was launched in a slowing economy so the modest 20k sales goal is a huge miss especially considering its price. There is also a nationwide $399 lease for it being advertised nationally.

Now I am not sure if people see the value in the new M37/56 when it is no longer cheaper than Lexus or the Germans and you do have cars like the Genesis and MKS etc who do offer value. So far M37/56 sales have been pretty dismal. They better hope Nissan provides some new lease backing as it seems without it the vehicles don't sell. Surely they don't expect the car to sell 25k a year like the last model in its peak years but I don't think they want to sell 15k either.