<quoted text>No, it wasn't. It is the embracing of "true equality", at it's basest level. The final breakdown of the centuries of refinement that we have striven for. It's no excuse, it's the arrival at the final destination that SSM is driving at, whether they like it, or not. If we lower the bar for them, then we must lower it all the way. Remove it completely. Else, we are taking half steps. Saying that"Group A can have what it wants, but not Group B". Where is the equality in that ?

Only lying Rose said she supported gay rights because of "equality" and nothing else. Try again!

<quoted text>And, what does it matter if "they" have their reasons for for believing that incest and polygamy are wrong ? We heterosexuals had our reasons for believing that SSM is wrong, but "they" have told us to go to hell. "They" decided that what "they" wanted was OK, but now, "they" wish to say that what others want is not ? Unacceptable. Prejudicial and discriminatory, as "they" were whining about, only yesterday, "unfair" "they" said, but now, it is fine for them to set the bar against others ? No sir, if we allow any changes at all, then why waste any more time with silly standards ?

I never said they matter. Those people are very trivial and insignificant and worthless! I was simply pointing out how flawed that statement was and how it seemed like you were using an excuse and to prove you weren't really loyal to God by supporting monogamy! And why not say that to mikey as well? He also supports gay marriage, but not polygamy!

<quoted text>If you are here to further the ends of Christianity, you are in the wrong place. I feel no targeting, merely point out that you seem to have no specific aim, except preaching the good word.

It is to hold people who say they are believers but aren't to account, just like the proud church of ephesus did!

<quoted text>He and I have been getting along the whole time that we have been posting, not arbitrarily picking when to agree. He has adopted the same position that I have, re you. Letting you have your way, as long as it provided the amusement that we all in here for. Like the Springer Show. You have started to post against him, and he has checked you, when necessary. Pick your targets better, and I am sure he will allow you to exist peacefully. Snap at the time, and in the wrong direction, and you will be kicked.

So he's the boss round is he eh? He doesn't point out any errors or mistakes, but just laughs at them? He sounds like the devil who is in charge of hell scoffing at the tortured souls!

<quoted text>Of course. But some pro gay fools don't see that it isn't marriage, due to their own folly. Some fools think homosexuals are able to get in a proper marriage, so they still support polygamy. Polygamy and homosexuality are still not proper marriages but for completety different reasons. You should have saw this, so I believe in fact you are lying to cover it up!Some however aren't like this, and simply allow it for the sake of "equality", like rose!

You said you were addressing people who supported gay marriage simply illogically because of "equality", but yet don't support polygamy. But only Rose did that, so you were obviously only making excuses. Try again? Another excuse will it be?

<quoted text>I never said they matter. Those people are very trivial and insignificant and worthless! I was simply pointing out how flawed that statement was and how it seemed like you were using an excuse and to prove you weren't really loyal to God by supporting monogamy! And why not say that to mikey as well? He also supports gay marriage, but not polygamy!

You are mistaken to state that they are "trivial and insignificant and worthless", they are not. They desire something that they do not rate, but to claim that is completely off the mark. Who appointed you the arbiter of who is worth something and who is not ? Whoever told you that YOU were worth anything ? And claiming that I do not support God by supporting monogamy is also a mistake. You must have meant to say "I do not support God by supporting polygamy" would be a bit more accurate, wouldn't you agree ? Regardless, I do not support polygamy, incest or gay marriage. I DO, however, support the idea that all should receive the same benefits, resultant from the tampering with the Constitution. You, on the other hand, seem unable to grasp the innuendos and subtleties involved in this forum. May I suggest a nice game of Tiddley-Winks, instead ? Perhaps Snakes and Ladders ? You are way past the mark to claim that anyone is "trivial and insignificant and worthless"(except for Chongo, but that is another issue), because you have been treated more than fairly, by both sides of this forum, people that have not mocked you as much as you deserve to be, and if you persist in acting as if you are the only righteous poster in here, I will enjoy watching you be made a mockery of. Who the hell do you think you are ? The only perfect one in here ? Just a silly git, without a clue, that's what you are. Now, be off with you, on yer bike, lad. And if you wish to cite history, then, fer Gawds sake, learn some first. You are an embarrassment to me, and all the people of the Isles. You've shown yerself to be thick, uninformed, narrow minded, uneducated, pompous, and in every way substandard. Plus, as your tag shows you to be from Wrexham, an interloper with no stake in this issue. Who the f**k asked you, anyway ? Go try your "A" levels again, you must have been absent when they were teaching, and you are in sore need.

A scoffer! Do you think God being proud of you for your intelligence not being a sheep(God wouldn't really be proud of someone like you)will be worth burning in a firy lake of misery? You laugh at people when yet the bible condemns the scoffer! Looks like he won't be pleased with you after all!

<quoted text>No it doesn't dummy. But it's a step forward towards true equality.Prop 8 defined marriage as a man and a woman effectively banning poly too.It's one less legal restriction on marriage. Including poly. Glad you don't like it hypocrite.

Excuse me. Polygamy was banned WAY BEFORE Prop 8 and it will continue to be banned after Prop 8 is overturned.

<quoted text>You are mistaken to state that they are "trivial and insignificant and worthless", they are not. They desire something that they do not rate, but to claim that is completely off the mark. Who appointed you the arbiter of who is worth something and who is not ? Whoever told you that YOU were worth anything ? And claiming that I do not support God by supporting monogamy is also a mistake. You must have meant to say "I do not support God by supporting polygamy" would be a bit more accurate, wouldn't you agree ? Regardless, I do not support polygamy, incest or gay marriage. I DO, however, support the idea that all should receive the same benefits, resultant from the tampering with the Constitution. You, on the other hand, seem unable to grasp the innuendos and subtleties involved in this forum. May I suggest a nice game of Tiddley-Winks, instead ? Perhaps Snakes and Ladders ? You are way past the mark to claim that anyone is "trivial and insignificant and worthless"(except for Chongo, but that is another issue), because you have been treated more than fairly, by both sides of this forum, people that have not mocked you as much as you deserve to be, and if you persist in acting as if you are the only righteous poster in here, I will enjoy watching you be made a mockery of. Who the hell do you think you are ? The only perfect one in here ? Just a silly git, without a clue, that's what you are. Now, be off with you, on yer bike, lad. And if you wish to cite history, then, fer Gawds sake, learn some first. You are an embarrassment to me, and all the people of the Isles. You've shown yerself to be thick, uninformed, narrow minded, uneducated, pompous, and in every way substandard. Plus, as your tag shows you to be from Wrexham, an interloper with no stake in this issue. Who the f**k asked you, anyway ? Go try your "A" levels again, you must have been absent when they were teaching, and you are in sore need.

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