Post by tkasper01 on Nov 19, 2017 7:23:56 GMT -5

Trade up if you have to, we have to leave the first round with a fucking QB.

100%.

He looks spectacular today.

Of course they are making a deal of his sideline antics, grabbed his crotch and cursed at the Kansas sideline.

The fucking Kansas players refused to shake his hand before the game at the toin coss.

I HAPPY he's doing that.

Fuck you, you disrespect me and I will skull fuck you and puss in your corpse.

Oh I want this guy.

He's been incredibly accurate and he's shown great touch too.

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I agree 100% Kansas should stick to basketball. They started it and then he completely dicked'em in the ass and let the crowd know it. Moxie I called. We are out of the Rosen and Darnold sweepstakes. We can win with this kid and keep most of our picks.

Post by Sonny Werblin on Nov 19, 2017 9:59:09 GMT -5

Rosen and Darnold will be going 1 and 2. Unless the jets trade up, we're looking at Jackson or Mayfield. If you go Jackson, you've got to throw out the playbook and create a new one around his talent. If he fails, you've screwed the team for at least 5 years. I think it's going to be Mayfield unless we figure out how to get to 1 or 2.

Post by JStokes on Nov 20, 2017 10:58:50 GMT -5

Rosen and Darnold will be going 1 and 2. Unless the jets trade up, we're looking at Jackson or Mayfield. If you go Jackson, you've got to throw out the playbook and create a new one around his talent. If he fails, you've screwed the team for at least 5 years. I think it's going to be Mayfield unless we figure out how to get to 1 or 2.

I think I'm Darnold 1A and Rosen 1B only because of durability issues. I think both are fantastic. IMHO Rosen is a better pure QB but Darnold seems to have better mobility (as weird as that sounds) and as a bigger guy may have a longer career/be better equipped to take the pounding. And some if his throws are incredible.

Mayfield has rocketed up to the third QB I want.

Not sure on Jackson and and if Allen is the pick I'll root harder for him than our last 2 fuck ups Geno and Hack, I just won't have much confidence.

Post by apdz on Nov 21, 2017 22:24:11 GMT -5

Is it really possible that every other Division 1 program -- I'm talking teams like Rutgers, Temple, Connecticut, etc... thought he could never be successful in college because of his was under 5'10"? It makes absolutely no sense to me.

Flutie was the same height - and had a pretty solid last year at BC in '84. And obviously he went on to have a top-shelf career in CFL. I think the big knock on a short QB - espy nowadays - is that you get more batted balls, fewer throwing lanes, etc. Flutie was a bit of an interception machine his whole career and his comp% was always middling. Oddly, the ceiling is low for short QBs.....

Post by Paradis on Nov 23, 2017 23:28:16 GMT -5

Is it really possible that every other Division 1 program -- I'm talking teams like Rutgers, Temple, Connecticut, etc... thought he could never be successful in college because of his was under 5'10"? It makes absolutely no sense to me.

Flutie was the same height - and had a pretty solid last year at BC in '84. And obviously he went on to have a top-shelf career in CFL. I think the big knock on a short QB - espy nowadays - is that you get more batted balls, fewer throwing lanes, etc. Flutie was a bit of an interception machine his whole career and his comp% was always middling. Oddly, the ceiling is low for short QBs.....

I think if we're going to have a group called "short QBs" then Brees has to be lumped in there, and he's had HOF career. Wilson on his way to be talked about in the same manner. It's possible to be short and good, it's just a lot harder. I think Mayfield could be one those type of guys. Wouldn't say i'm absolutely certain per say, but the recipe is there.