You know what I mean, they would be in so much trouble if they really stopped it. After all, it's not illegal.

Apple explicitly wanted the DMCA to apply to jailbreaking so they could pursue and attack the groups that gave the ability to people. They fought the EFF so they could send takedown notices and sic the FBI on the developers and make them stop.

We should find out this month if jailbreaking will remain exempt, or if Apple will begin a campaign of DMCA takedowns and siccing the FBI on everyone's favorite hackers. Just remember: if you jailbreak, Apple hates you and wants you to go away.

Well, about as hard as my continued non purchase of their hardware. But people shouldn't kid themselves by saying "Apple doesn't care." They do, and will jump on it the first chance they get.

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On a more serious note, my understanding is that the exemption, all smartphones BTW, will be widened to include stuff like Windows 8's secure EUFI boot.

If it's approved. I'm sure Apple's been putting a lot of money and effort into trying to tilt it the other way. But it's the wrong solution to the problem, people shouldn't have to bank on security holes and a stupid cat-and-mouse game with the two 800lb gorillas in computing.

Galaxy S3 fans have one more thing to lord over iPhone 5 owners: a superior display.

That's according to a study from IHS, which concluded that Samsung's flagship phone had a screen that was both thinner and had a wider color gamut.

The Galaxy S3's display is just 1.1 millimeters thick and offers the full color gamut of the NTSC standard. In comparison, the iPhone 5's display is 1.5 millimeters thick and offers 72 percent of the standard color gamut.

With consumers increasingly concerned with the minute details and specifications of their mobile devices, the results are a win for Samsung, and further illustrates the point that Apple no longer leads when it comes to adding the latest and greatest technology. That was already highlighted by the fact the iPhone 5's two biggest new features -- a bigger display and 4G LTE -- have long been found in Android devices.

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Another study done by DisplayMate, which conducts testing for manufacturers, found that the iPhone 5's display was "state-of-the-art accurate," and only fell short to the new iPad in terms of accuracy and contrast.

DisplayMate president Raymond Soneira blasted the study, arguing that the color gamut test IHS conducted was based off of an old standard that has led to incorrect conclusions.

Jakhanwah declined to comment on the new standard or Soneira's comments.

The article is pretty self-explanatory. For those who are not aware, increasing the color gamut of a display does not automatically create improved image quality. In fact, if you display a source with a more limited color gamut than what your display expects and it doesn't correct for this, the result is always characteristically oversaturated colors. A display which is capable of 100% NTSC will oversaturate colors if you are looking at a source which is outputting sRGB, which has a limited gamut compared to NTSC. This is one reason why it's more complicated than people expect to properly set up a HTPC to connect to an HDTV. It's also why the professional wide-gamut LCD displays require proper setup and calibration when connecting to a PC.

So, the GSIII really does oversaturate colors compared to the iP5. It does this because it's Super AMOLED HD display has a superior color gamut to the iP5's display. This doesn't mean a whole fucking lot when you are looking at the UI, but it does technically mean that if you actually copied a ripped Blu-ray to your phone (LOL) and watched it, and if Samsung's video player plays it back properly, you would get a superior quality image from your movie on the GSIII's screen compared to the iP5's screen.

The GSIII unfortunately suffers from a distinct green push, a result of uncalibrated PenTile display. Samsung never calibrates their phone screens unfortunately. However since the Galaxy Note II uses a non-Pentile RGB Super AMOLED HD screen, it should have better native color accuracy and still offer a superior color gamut. Plus the GNII has a 5.5" screen which is actually big enough for people to watch videos on comfortably.

HONG KONG - Chinese mobile phone and telecoms equipment maker ZTE Corp will report a loss of as much as 1.75 billion yuan (S$341.2 million) in the first 9 months of 2012, it said in a preliminary results announcement on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange on Sunday.

The Shenzhen-based company has suffered as a slowing economy has hurt sales and margins have come under pressure. ZTE said its loss will be between 1.65 billion yuan and 1.75 billion yuan. That could be a fall of more than 260 per cent compared with the same period last year. Basic earnings per share will be a loss of between 0.48 yuan and 0.51 yuan.

The company is due to report final results at the end of the month.

China is a cutthroat market, the competition from low cost no name OEMs in the region is fierce.

HONG KONG - Chinese mobile phone and telecoms equipment maker ZTE Corp will report a loss of as much as 1.75 billion yuan (S$341.2 million) in the first 9 months of 2012, it said in a preliminary results announcement on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange on Sunday.

The Shenzhen-based company has suffered as a slowing economy has hurt sales and margins have come under pressure. ZTE said its loss will be between 1.65 billion yuan and 1.75 billion yuan. That could be a fall of more than 260 per cent compared with the same period last year. Basic earnings per share will be a loss of between 0.48 yuan and 0.51 yuan.

The company is due to report final results at the end of the month.

China is a cutthroat market, the competition from low cost no name OEMs in the region is fierce.

Or they get into a price war to get rid of inventory and sell at loss.

A price war is actually quite likely at this point of the market development. In tablets especially (less true in phones but still there), getting established is the important bit. To be followed shortly by the "go big or go home" phase.

ZTE's practically an established premium brand by Chinese standards. There's an incredible amount of competition in China, companies like OPPO, Jiayu, Star, Xiaomi are leapfrogging one another on an almost weekly basis, and I dare say that is only scratching the surface of what is going on.

It seems highly likely that there will be a shake out of the Chinese manufacturers, a lot of companies will disappear, but those that survive will probably become global players.

But who watches full-length movies on a phone, especially when you can get a 7-inch tablet for $200?

galaxy S3 looks great.

Who tries to read on a 3.5-4" screen?

I do.

Ditto. I actually enjoy reading the forums on my new iPhone 5. I'm at the point where I kinda-sorta need reading glasses but can still fake it by taking my regular glasses off and holding things close. A device with tiny sharp type like the iPhone 5 is great for that -- more comfortable than holding something far away with my regular glasses on.

Yes, developers should have the PR interests of Apple in mind as the first priority when creating an app.

What a fantasy world you live in.

Pardon me? What the fuck has my play on words, and pedantry, got to do with your misguided reaction? The post you're misreading is a criticism of Apple and the general-dumbing down that it has been partially responsible for.

But who watches full-length movies on a phone, especially when you can get a 7-inch tablet for $200?

galaxy S3 looks great.

Who tries to read on a 3.5-4" screen?

I do.

Ditto. I actually enjoy reading the forums on my new iPhone 5. I'm at the point where I kinda-sorta need reading glasses but can still fake it by taking my regular glasses off and holding things close. A device with tiny sharp type like the iPhone 5 is great for that -- more comfortable than holding something far away with my regular glasses on.

You should try it on a 4.7" screen. It is pretty sweet. I would post more from my phone but I still don't like the soft-keyboard. It is just way to big of a tying speed hit for me.

But reading on it is very nice. Plus since it has deeper blacks, it seems even nicer.

And, dude, I feel your pain. My eye doc said basically I would have to get bifocals next time. He said I was right on the edge and could go either way this time, but if my eyes change one more "level" then I wouldn't have a choice. Naturally I chose to skip them at this point because only OLD people have bifocals.

But who watches full-length movies on a phone, especially when you can get a 7-inch tablet for $200?

galaxy S3 looks great.

Who tries to read on a 3.5-4" screen?

I do.

Ditto. I actually enjoy reading the forums on my new iPhone 5. I'm at the point where I kinda-sorta need reading glasses but can still fake it by taking my regular glasses off and holding things close. A device with tiny sharp type like the iPhone 5 is great for that -- more comfortable than holding something far away with my regular glasses on.

Ditto. And, um, everyone really. Unless all you do on the internet is look at pretty pictures.

But who watches full-length movies on a phone, especially when you can get a 7-inch tablet for $200?

galaxy S3 looks great.

Who tries to read on a 3.5-4" screen?

I do.

Ditto. I actually enjoy reading the forums on my new iPhone 5. I'm at the point where I kinda-sorta need reading glasses but can still fake it by taking my regular glasses off and holding things close. A device with tiny sharp type like the iPhone 5 is great for that -- more comfortable than holding something far away with my regular glasses on.

Ditto. And, um, everyone really. Unless all you do on the internet is look at pretty pictures.

I'm not reading Proust, but I am definitely reading blogs and forums.

I get that you read on teh phone--when I say that, I meant precisely reading Proust (or any book--long reading)

Galaxy S3 fans have one more thing to lord over iPhone 5 owners: a superior display.

That's according to a study from IHS, which concluded that Samsung's flagship phone had a screen that was both thinner and had a wider color gamut.

The Galaxy S3's display is just 1.1 millimeters thick and offers the full color gamut of the NTSC standard. In comparison, the iPhone 5's display is 1.5 millimeters thick and offers 72 percent of the standard color gamut.

With consumers increasingly concerned with the minute details and specifications of their mobile devices, the results are a win for Samsung, and further illustrates the point that Apple no longer leads when it comes to adding the latest and greatest technology. That was already highlighted by the fact the iPhone 5's two biggest new features -- a bigger display and 4G LTE -- have long been found in Android devices.

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Another study done by DisplayMate, which conducts testing for manufacturers, found that the iPhone 5's display was "state-of-the-art accurate," and only fell short to the new iPad in terms of accuracy and contrast.

DisplayMate president Raymond Soneira blasted the study, arguing that the color gamut test IHS conducted was based off of an old standard that has led to incorrect conclusions.

Jakhanwah declined to comment on the new standard or Soneira's comments.

The article is pretty self-explanatory. For those who are not aware, increasing the color gamut of a display does not automatically create improved image quality. In fact, if you display a source with a more limited color gamut than what your display expects and it doesn't correct for this, the result is always characteristically oversaturated colors. A display which is capable of 100% NTSC will oversaturate colors if you are looking at a source which is outputting sRGB, which has a limited gamut compared to NTSC. This is one reason why it's more complicated than people expect to properly set up a HTPC to connect to an HDTV. It's also why the professional wide-gamut LCD displays require proper setup and calibration when connecting to a PC.

So, the GSIII really does oversaturate colors compared to the iP5. It does this because it's Super AMOLED HD display has a superior color gamut to the iP5's display. This doesn't mean a whole fucking lot when you are looking at the UI, but it does technically mean that if you actually copied a ripped Blu-ray to your phone (LOL) and watched it, and if Samsung's video player plays it back properly, you would get a superior quality image from your movie on the GSIII's screen compared to the iP5's screen.

The GSIII unfortunately suffers from a distinct green push, a result of uncalibrated PenTile display. Samsung never calibrates their phone screens unfortunately. However since the Galaxy Note II uses a non-Pentile RGB Super AMOLED HD screen, it should have better native color accuracy and still offer a superior color gamut. Plus the GNII has a 5.5" screen which is actually big enough for people to watch videos on comfortably.

See that section I bolded, "superior quality image"? That is absolutely and unequivocally wrong. A wide gamut display that is wider than the source material, or not colour corrected will inherently be worse than a screen that his a more balanced gamut to source material and colour calibration. "Superior" doesn't mean shit if it's over saturated garbage.

I love how I actually addressed that point in the paragraph above the one you bolded a few words from and you apparently didn't even read that before replying.

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Don't the pentile screens render text poorly?

Not at 300+ ppi they don't. My Galaxy Nexus is 361 ppi, at that pixel density PenTile makes just about no difference at all.

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But who watches full-length movies on a phone, especially when you can get a 7-inch tablet for $200?

I got my 10" HP Touchpad for $150 last year during the fire sale frenzy but I can't exactly tote that around in my pocket. My next phone will be Galaxy Note II and at 5.5" it's close enough to a 7" tablet that it's pretty much a wash, for portable video viewing it will be just fine.

I love how I actually addressed that point in the paragraph above the one you bolded a few words from and you apparently didn't even read that before replying.

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wco81 wrote:

Don't the pentile screens render text poorly?

Not at 300+ ppi they don't. My Galaxy Nexus is 361 ppi, at that pixel density PenTile makes just about no difference at all.

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But who watches full-length movies on a phone, especially when you can get a 7-inch tablet for $200?

I got my 10" HP Touchpad for $150 last year during the fire sale frenzy but I can't exactly tote that around in my pocket. My next phone will be Galaxy Note II and at 5.5" it's close enough to a 7" tablet that it's pretty much a wash, for portable video viewing it will be just fine.

I read it, but it was like reading a communist capitalist manifesto - filled with conflicting points to the point of stupid.

I got my 10" HP Touchpad for $150 last year during the fire sale frenzy but I can't exactly tote that around in my pocket. My next phone will be Galaxy Note II and at 5.5" it's close enough to a 7" tablet that it's pretty much a wash, for portable video viewing it will be just fine.

Heh, in 2 years when I get a new phone it will be on the Galaxy Note 4. and i agree. 5.5" would be close enough to render 7" tablet useless, imo.

I love how I actually addressed that point in the paragraph above the one you bolded a few words from and you apparently didn't even read that before replying.

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wco81 wrote:

Don't the pentile screens render text poorly?

Not at 300+ ppi they don't. My Galaxy Nexus is 361 ppi, at that pixel density PenTile makes just about no difference at all.

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But who watches full-length movies on a phone, especially when you can get a 7-inch tablet for $200?

I got my 10" HP Touchpad for $150 last year during the fire sale frenzy but I can't exactly tote that around in my pocket. My next phone will be Galaxy Note II and at 5.5" it's close enough to a 7" tablet that it's pretty much a wash, for portable video viewing it will be just fine.

Galaxy OG (Epic 4G slider) at 232 PPI, pentile display = not as good in terms of crispness as an iPhone or S3, but not a problem, either.

I love how I actually addressed that point in the paragraph above the one you bolded a few words from and you apparently didn't even read that before replying.

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wco81 wrote:

Don't the pentile screens render text poorly?

Not at 300+ ppi they don't. My Galaxy Nexus is 361 ppi, at that pixel density PenTile makes just about no difference at all.

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But who watches full-length movies on a phone, especially when you can get a 7-inch tablet for $200?

I got my 10" HP Touchpad for $150 last year during the fire sale frenzy but I can't exactly tote that around in my pocket. My next phone will be Galaxy Note II and at 5.5" it's close enough to a 7" tablet that it's pretty much a wash, for portable video viewing it will be just fine.

I read it, but it was like reading a communist capitalist manifesto - filled with conflicting points to the point of stupid.

When the other person resorts to straight insults on the Internet, I know I've won the argument. Feels good man.

I read it, but it was like reading a communist capitalist manifesto - filled with conflicting points to the point of stupid.

Is it really necessary for you to be such a ass over such a simple disagreement on terminology? Seeing as you both essentially agree, a simple "yes, however I think that ..." would probably be more productive.

Yeah I read that Verge post and the Butterfly J looks fantastic. I have been a bit of a PPI skeptic but looking at those photos it does appear that 400+ ppi is indeed a significant improvement.

It would be great if HTC can have a big success with this phone. The GS3 is still going strong and the GNote 2 is fantastic but Android needs a non-Samsung hero phone this holiday season. Sony and Motorola haven't stepped up. The Optimus G looks good and if there is a Nexus version as rumored it will be a heavyweight contender. The Butterfly J looks great but I have to wonder whether HTC will be able to execute well enough to create a genuine hit. It is already a bit late in the day and there is no word of a global release. HTC will also have to deliver in areas like battery life and camera quality.

I have a feeling that HTC will fall a bit short and it will be Samsung yet again which will nail 1080P with the GS4 next year. Hope I am wrong.

I think in the long term we might as well have insanely high resolution displays. Makes the software easier, and if the technology can do it at acceptable power levels, might as well. Probably allows for better font rendering, or at least simplifies AA. Not sure about LCD, since I suspect the light efficiency isn't great at high PPI, but for AMOLED I don't see why you couldn't have very efficient 1000 ppi displays.

That said, at 2 arcseconds visual acuity, 400 ppi means you have to be about 10 cm from the display. Thats really close. Closer than the resting focal length of the human eye. Middle aged people probably can't even focus their eyes that close, and while I'm fairly young, there is definitely more than a little strain if I try. At a more comfortable 20-30 cm the pixels are way smaller than they need to be.

From what I've read, the average human has a 20/14 visual acuity up until their 60s, at which point the average human has 20/20 vision:Unsourced PDF.

However you can in fact find the actual studies by Elliott, De Haan, Portnoy, etc. About 100 years ago De Haan was criticized for being inaccurate, that human visual acuity was much better and declined much slower than he reported.

So, yeah, more pixel density is better until the market decides they cannot see any difference. Let the pixel density wars begin!

"It turns out that there is a magic number right around 300 pixels per inch that, when you hold something around 10 or 12 inches away from your eyes, is the limit of the human retina['s ability] to differentiate the pixels."

Steve Jobs aka Jesus.

And that would be correct....if the the majority market for Apple products are in the geriatric phase of their life. Maybe it's true? All the 60 and 70 year olds who get confused by them Windows doohickies can just get an Apple device and stop thinking.