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About this far... ___________________ which is too far for most. But with a fair shot to the right, it would make this hole great. But imho it isn't there yet. I know tom and company is trying to clear it more tho so hopefully it will be there one day.

I played this hole with its new tee pad for the first time at the Club Championship...and I loved it. I have a weenie arm, and with a slight anny with an understable disc, I made it over and had lots of room to spare and landed 75(?) feet past the drop zone. Of course, I had to par it, but I thought it was a great hole.

it's not a bad hole, but not a good hole. throw 300 and you're there. with all those baseball foul poles on site, i'd love to see a legitimate mando somewhere< prob on the right> to really make you plan both your first and second shot. i do love that green.

I played this hole with its new tee pad for the first time at the Club Championship...and I loved it. I have a weenie arm, and with a slight anny with an understable disc, I made it over and had lots of room to spare and landed 75(?) feet past the drop zone. Of course, I had to par it, but I thought it was a great hole.

And 2 others threw into the water on his card......I received my disc back though, thank you very much!

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If you want to see a bad hole go play rosedales new 18 to the left. I love the work steve h does but...

I think that hole is really bad by comparison. The middle and long on that hole are really interesting and, depending on wind conditions, decently challenging holes. It is just a shame to not play either of them.