How important is it for us to include a download link? Do people come here to get OOo? I don't see how that would be very likely.

I honestly never even noticed that that was a download link, even after RGB brought it up the other day--I couldn't find what he was referring to! I never noticed the text, and I assumed that the birds-logo was just a link back to the project page. So, at least, a download link could be more self-explanatory than the current one.

When forum users complain about a bogus download site, we usually give them a link to the main site, and I don't remember anyone suggesting that they use the download link on the forum page.

Do we have a link to the main project page? Would that be a better choice here?

How important is it for us to include a download link? Do people come here to get OOo? I don't see how that would be very likely.

In view of the number of bogus downloads we see, the more "good" download links the better, even if they only refer to the download on the main page (that should make them "maintenance free", which is a Good Thing [refer: Sellar and Yateman, "1066 and All That"]

Just to be clear: I have no problem at all with us having a download link.

If it is there, it should be more evident, both to its presence and its purpose, and less maintenance is always better. Re-using the download graphic would seem to do all that. There are already translations of "Get OOo" in place, so there's no need for text in the graphic.

Edit: PS:

Hmm, I guess that text has to change, no matter what we do, since "OpenOffice.org" is no longer correct.

Do we have to say "Apache Open Office" or can we just make it "Get OpenOffice"?

Edit: PPS:

While we're making the change, why don't we eliminate the text altogether and just use the icon? The feather on the left is already text-less, and the "get AOO" icon is pretty self-explanatory. Clicking "blind" shouldn't be a problem, either--it's not starting a download or anything bad.

acknak wrote:When forum users complain about a bogus download site, we usually give them a link to the main site, and I don't remember anyone suggesting that they use the download link on the forum page.

Personally, I always tell them to use the button bottom of the page!I also use it myself sometimes.

The mere icon is not enough IMHO, would be quite small and could get unnoticed. At least having "Apache OpenOffice" would be clearer. And no translation needed then.Why not replace the birds of the banner logo proposal and remove the "community forum" text?

I quite like Hagar's proposal, but will everybody understand the meaning of the green arrow? On the LibreOffice website a green up arrow is used as a navigation tool, so the down arrow might be misread for something else.

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We should keep the small text above the logo (for the moment "Get OpenOffice.org").It requires less work than customizing different NL logos.

kingfisher wrote:I would also lose the green arrow and put a link to the download page below the logo, not in it.

The green arrow downward is often used in the sites where you can download freewares and sharewares IIRC. Users are used to click those big buttons, it would be strange to have to click a small hyperlink and have a big button that is not interactive.

Seems that my proposal is fine (see replies to my ML post). Is it ok to replace the OOo logo and modify the text?I'm clearly against the feather in the logo. It's not a requirement and many other ASF products don't have that feather.

Down arrow seems rather standard for the download action (also used in the download buttons of LibO BTW).

If no big objection within few days, I'll PM this topic to imacat for implementation.

Hagar Delest wrote:Seems that my proposal is fine (see replies to my ML post). Is it ok to replace the OOo logo and modify the text?I'm clearly against the feather in the logo. It's not a requirement and many other ASF products don't have that feather.

Down arrow seems rather standard for the download action (also used in the download buttons of LibO BTW).

If no big objection within few days, I'll PM this topic to imacat for implementation.

+1 !!!

There are two types of people: those who believe that there are two types of people and those who do not.

Good one! The download link doesn't work for the Dutch forum either. And "Haal OpenOffice.org op" could read just as well just "Download" - because I feel that mentioning Apache OpenOffice twice is rather redundant.

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The misalign between "Get OpenOffice" and "Get OpenOffice.org" among languages is purely my mistake. The Chinese forum does not use a seperate term, so I thought that every forum is using the English text message. This is fixed. All "OpenOffice.org" are to "OpenOffice" (besides in the meta keywords for historical reason, where "OpenOffice" is added instead of replacing "OpenOffice.org").

RGB wrote:The ES forum is one of those: instead of "Obtenga OpnOffice.org" it should say "Obtenga Apache OpenOffice".

The download text on the Spanish (Español, ES) forum is updated as "Obtenga Apache OpenOffice" per request. Is this OK? Or should I align with others as "Obtenga OpenOffice"?

floris v wrote:Good one! The download link doesn't work for the Dutch forum either. And "Haal OpenOffice.org op" could read just as well just "Download" - because I feel that mentioning Apache OpenOffice twice is rather redundant.

The download text on the Dutch (Nederlands, NL) forum is updated as "Download" instead of "Haal OpenOffice.org op". I'm not sure if this is OK.

imacat wrote:The download text on the Dutch (Nederlands, NL) forum is updated as "Download" instead of "Haal OpenOffice.org op". I'm not sure if this is OK.

Excellent. Please note that .org in OpenOffice.org was added to the name to avoid confusion with a Dutch product of that name (but with a space). There's no confusion possible in the full name Apache OpenOffice, but abbreviating that to just OpenOffice would get you back to the original situation.

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[list][*] The misalign between "Get OpenOffice" and "Get OpenOffice.org" among languages is purely my mistake. The Chinese forum does not use a seperate term, so I thought that every forum is using the English text message. This is fixed. All "OpenOffice.org" are to "OpenOffice" (besides in the meta keywords for historical reason, where "OpenOffice" is added instead of replacing "OpenOffice.org").

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RGB wrote:The ES forum is one of those: instead of "Obtenga OpnOffice.org" it should say "Obtenga Apache OpenOffice".

[*] The download text on the Spanish (Español, ES) forum is updated as "Obtenga Apache OpenOffice" per request. Is this OK? Or should I align with others as "Obtenga OpenOffice"?

No volunteer from Poland is currently involved in the AOOo project. Hence (1) it has no Polish l10n, and its usability for Polish-speaking users is rather limited; (2) pl.openoffice.org is not maintained by anyone.Most people in Poland use the LibreOffice suite, and there are some volunteers. I have even recently added Get LibreOffice entry to our first contact forum. However, it might be not reasonable to point LO in official site link at bottom of the page.We still consider that keeping PL forum at Apache site makes sense, according to extended formula present in the current banner of the forum.

No volunteer from Poland is currently involved in the AOOo project. Hence (1) it has no Polish l10n, and its usability for Polish-speaking users is rather limited; (2) pl.openoffice.org is not maintained by anyone.Most people in Poland use the LibreOffice suite, and there are some volunteers. I have even recently added Get LibreOffice entry to our first contact forum. However, it might be not reasonable to point LO in official site link at bottom of the page.We still consider that keeping PL forum at Apache site makes sense, according to extended formula present in the current banner of the forum.

I see. We still hope that there will be more people using OpenOffice that can hold the community. Many thanks, though. ^_*'