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Re: SOPA Has Returned

Originally Posted by Yoko Littner

SOPA won't ever pass so why go to the trouble of gathering ourselves an army?

Best to be safe than sorry, I suppose?

They may take it that if the majority of the Internet ignores it and doesn't protest then it's okay for them to pass it. y'know, "Oh, they're not protesting so they're probably okay with it." and all that.

Re: SOPA Has Returned

Originally Posted by Ranshiin

Best to be safe than sorry, I suppose?

They may take it that if the majority of the Internet ignores it and doesn't protest then it's okay for them to pass it. y'know, "Oh, they're not protesting so they're probably okay with it." and all that.

indeed, that's exactly right. people sent a littany of enraged mail to congress, signed petitions, blacked out websites and generally protested the last time SOPA came up. if we don't do the same thing this time, congress will probably be like "they're not rioting. guess they want us to take their internet privelages and privacy away after all."

Re: SOPA Has Returned

Originally Posted by Ranshiin

Best to be safe than sorry, I suppose?

They may take it that if the majority of the Internet ignores it and doesn't protest then it's okay for them to pass it. y'know, "Oh, they're not protesting so they're probably okay with it." and all that.

Yeah thats true lol. I don't see it passing, but if it somehow did that would suck.
Where is that petition thingy?

Re: SOPA Has Returned

Originally Posted by Wio

Meh, UK porn filtering is worse than SOPA. SOPA is an attack on piracy that could lead to censorship. UK porn filtering IS censorship.

UK porn filter isn't worse. If you want, you can get it unblocked on your ip. Just send whoever it is who controlls that stuff a message that you want to watch porn, then you can.
You can't do that with SOPA.

Re: SOPA Has Returned

Originally Posted by Des

UK porn filter isn't worse. If you want, you can get it unblocked on your ip. Just send whoever it is who controlls that stuff a message that you want to watch porn, then you can.
You can't do that with SOPA.

SOPA can be circumvented. You can get around DNS look-ups by looking up IP addresses yourself.

On the other hand tons of people, such as college students in dorms, do NOT have access to their ISPs.

Re: SOPA Has Returned

Example of something that is not SOPA. SOPA blocks DNS lookups, which is circumvented by knowing the IP.

The point is, SOPA can be circumvented in cases where the porn filter can not. However even this point is just a discussing the practical as opposed to the principle. On principle the porn filter is blatant censorship with no assumptions needed, while SOPA is only censorship if you assume that the law would be abused. This isn't to say that SOPA is good, but that P-filter is worse.

Re: SOPA Has Returned

Originally Posted by Wio

Example of something that is not SOPA. SOPA blocks DNS lookups, which is circumvented by knowing the IP.

I know. It was just a demonstration of what censorship in this country is coming to. We got that whole Orwellian thing going on already; even if this new SOPA thing doesn't go ahead our government's already well ahead in putting things in place that are just as bad or even worse.

(I mean I know they're doing this for legal reasons but still, censorship is censorship. Next they'll not let me wear my Parka in the winter >.>)