So what is the fucking latest, Hockey Widow? What ya hearin"? Personally, I think Lou is going to Florda, I HOPE HE IS GOING TO FLORIDA. The Panthers have way to many good pieces to dish us in return. The Leafs don't. What about Kulikov? The kid is supposed to be a dynamo? How the fuck did FLA get all these good young players? Well, I know how they got Howden.

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RoyalDude wrote:So what is the fucking latest, Hockey Widow? What ya hearin"? Personally, I think Lou is going to Florda, I HOPE HE IS GOING TO FLORIDA. The Panthers have way to many good pieces to dish us in return. The Leafs don't. What about Kulikov? The kid is supposed to be a dynamo? How the fuck did FLA get all these good young players? Well, I know how they got Howden.

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THE LATEST, WAIT FOR IT, LET ME SEE, ON HOLD, OK, GOT IT.

Sorry, nothing new to report, something about a lockout and an expired CBA.

So, whats the deal with all these rumors flying about that Luongo to Toronto is a done deal? I was all happy that a trade might actually happen until Mr. Happy Mike Gillis poo poo'ed the rumors today, although I ain't too pleased these trade rumors are with Toronto cause there is absolutely nothing I want out of that organization unless it's Morgan Reilly or Jake Gardiner in which I don't think Burkie is that stupid to trade them, ya just know he is trying to flog useless pieces of shit that won't make us any better like Kadri, Colbourne, Lupul, McCarthur, Kulimen etc. I don't mind Biggs or Ashton if they are part of a bigger package but I would certainly need more than just Ashton and Biggs to get all happy like.

That being said, with Gillis track record when it comes to trading, ya just know damn well that trade will suck on all fronts for us.

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I'm warming up to the idea of Colborne becoming a Canuck. The guy's heart, commitment, and toughness have been questioned in the past, but he apparently played through some serious pain last season. Plenty of upside there. I wonder who's the rumored asset that Toronto was unwilling to part with but are now willing to part with. Frattin? Fatty Kadri perhaps?

FAN wrote:I'm warming up to the idea of Colborne becoming a Canuck. The guy's heart, commitment, and toughness have been questioned in the past, but he apparently played through some serious pain last season. Plenty of upside there. I wonder who's the rumored asset that Toronto was unwilling to part with but are now willing to part with. Frattin? Fatty Kadri perhaps?

At least if Kadri came to Vancouver the Canucks could bank on absolute support from Surrey and Pitt Meadows.....

I susepct that either Kadri or Colbourne would be better here than they'll achieve in TO .... IMO, there's an inner pressure on this team to perform. I see Kassian get into the sort of shape he may never have been in for his hockey days. Seems difficult to judge Cobourne he had two torn ligaments and a broken bone in his wrist and yet played out the season. From what I can gather he's a second line player a sort of a poor man's Bjugstad. He's big boy I believe 6' 4" 200 +

Fred wrote:I susepct that either Kadri or Colbourne would be better here than they'll achieve in TO .... IMO, there's an inner pressure on this team to perform. I see Kassian get into the sort of shape he may never have been in for his hockey days. Seems difficult to judge Cobourne he had two torn ligaments and a broken bone in his wrist and yet played out the season. From what I can gather he's a second line player a sort of a poor man's Bjugstad. He's big boy I believe 6' 4" 200 +

Kadri is not my kind of player, I see him having as successful of an NHL career as Josh Holden/Jeff Tambellini did. Comparable type players. I see him as not being of any benefit to this organization, not the type of player this organization needs. Park Colbourne in the same category. Mike Gillis surely has to get a far better return for Luongo than those two meatheads.

He's a big boy Fred (Colbourne) but surely doesn't play big. He's another Chad Kilger type, complete and total meh. This organization is far and away better keeping Luongo instead if that is all that Burkie is offering.

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Gillis has to be asking for Gardiner, a 1st round pick and Ashton or Frattin. That's a fair deal. With the nagging, long term wounds to Garrison and Edler, a quality d-man is almost a must in a Luongo trade.

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RoyalDude wrote:Gillis has to be asking for Gardiner, a 1st round pick and Ashton or Frattin. That's a fair deal. With the nagging, long term wounds to Garrison and Edler, a quality d-man is almost a must in a Luongo trade.

Well I don't think that's going to happen.

If you get a good propspect to get bigger and younger and cheaper then that's whats coming back. Think about this most were in favour for the Bjugstad trade so it's going to be some thing along those lines. On the radio it was reported that TO fans think Luongo is worth a Tyler Bozak so just like the CBA there's considerable difference in thinking in what Luongo is worth.

Kadri has skill IMO he's mssing the brains and the tutoring to bring out the best. I'm betting how Schroeder looks in the next little while is going to impact on what they're looking for in the Luongo trade. MG was pretty keen on Schroeder at the end of last season, if he shows as well or better this season

RoyalDude wrote:Gillis has to be asking for Gardiner, a 1st round pick and Ashton or Frattin. That's a fair deal. With the nagging, long term wounds to Garrison and Edler, a quality d-man is almost a must in a Luongo trade.

Well I don't think that's going to happen.

If you get a good propspect to get bigger and younger and cheaper then that's whats coming back. Think about this most were in favour for the Bjugstad trade so it's going to be some thing along those lines. On the radio it was reported that TO fans think Luongo is worth a Tyler Bozak so just like the CBA there's considerable difference in thinking in what Luongo is worth.

Kadri has skill IMO he's mssing the brains and the tutoring to bring out the best. I'm betting how Schroeder looks in the next little while is going to impact on what they're looking for in the Luongo trade. MG was pretty keen on Schroeder at the end of last season, if he shows as well or better this season

Just thinking that the same tactic that's being used for the lockout would be helpful here with luongo. His value right now or at the beginning of the season is at its lowest, especially in TO, but as the season wears on and they realize that they don't have the goaltending and Burkes position weakens, we'll then it's going be a lot better offer. Listening to Luongo in September it sounds like he is okay with waiting as long as he's paid and get enough a starts to stay sharp. that takes the pressure off Gillis to make a bad deal and puts the screws to Burke or whoever?

If Damien Cox is to be believed, the asking price for Luongo at the draft was Jake Gardiner, Tyler Bozak, Matt Frattin and a first round pick (not specified whether that would have been a future pick or the 5th overall pick that was used to select Morgan Rielly).

If that's true and Burke still wants to talk turkey I'd try to get Bozak and either Gardiner or Rielly, I might settle for Bozak and their 1st in 2013 plus a couple of their decent prospects (Colborne, Kadri, Frattin, etc).

A return including Bozak and Gardiner could be great for this franchise over the long term.