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Chairman Ernie Pyke has blamed a change in players’ attitude for the declining number of teams. Absolute rubbish Ernie Pyke is living in the past in an archaic time warp. “They don’t want to get up on a Saturday morning and play because they have been in nightclubs until the early hours or have work". Another load of rubbish from him. The reason why the Kidderminster and District Football League is in demise is because the teams that once supported it were mainly made up by local industries. They are no longer there, destroyed by Margaret Thatcher & her Tory Government. Come on Ernie wake up to reality and stop living your dreams of the past. The who! "The kids are alright".

Chairman Ernie Pyke has blamed a change in players’ attitude for the declining number of teams. Absolute rubbish Ernie Pyke is living in the past in an archaic time warp.
“They don’t want to get up on a Saturday morning and play because they have been in nightclubs until the early hours or have work". Another load of rubbish from him.
The reason why the Kidderminster and District Football League is in demise is because the teams that once supported it were mainly made up by local industries. They are no longer there, destroyed by Margaret Thatcher & her Tory Government. Come on Ernie wake up to reality and stop living your dreams of the past. The who! "The kids are alright".Skijumper

Chairman Ernie Pyke has blamed a change in players’ attitude for the declining number of teams. Absolute rubbish Ernie Pyke is living in the past in an archaic time warp. “They don’t want to get up on a Saturday morning and play because they have been in nightclubs until the early hours or have work". Another load of rubbish from him. The reason why the Kidderminster and District Football League is in demise is because the teams that once supported it were mainly made up by local industries. They are no longer there, destroyed by Margaret Thatcher & her Tory Government. Come on Ernie wake up to reality and stop living your dreams of the past. The who! "The kids are alright".

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Dave Donut says...1:44pm Sat 17 May 14

So Maggie has been out of power for 25 years, senile for many and dead for one - and it is her fault the Kiddy League (Saturday) has folded?! lol. The Kiddy League has always had teams from pubs and clubs - not 'mainly works teams'. The decline is much more social than industrial. On top of the reasons Ernie gives, there are many more students doing part time work at weekends, many more people work in retail parks and many more on zero-hour contracts who have no idea until the phone rings whether they are needed or not and thus cannot commit themselves. (If you are socialist/trade unionist and want to be militant, get over your grudges from the past and make a stand against zero-hours contracts. The reason the trade union movement was started was to fight against issues such as this.) Young men have more money, and more options than a generation ago. Clearly not many fancy playing on a Saturday afternoon - and who can be blame them. The pubs are open all day, they have cars to get about in and Sky TV has matches on back to back. Many watch the local teams or travel to watch Man Utd or whoever. The Sunday League has 7 Divisions I believe - which I find a miracle in itself.

So Maggie has been out of power for 25 years, senile for many and dead for one - and it is her fault the Kiddy League (Saturday) has folded?! lol.
The Kiddy League has always had teams from pubs and clubs - not 'mainly works teams'.
The decline is much more social than industrial. On top of the reasons Ernie gives, there are many more students doing part time work at weekends, many more people work in retail parks and many more on zero-hour contracts who have no idea until the phone rings whether they are needed or not and thus cannot commit themselves.
(If you are socialist/trade unionist and want to be militant, get over your grudges from the past and make a stand against zero-hours contracts. The reason the trade union movement was started was to fight against issues such as this.)
Young men have more money, and more options than a generation ago. Clearly not many fancy playing on a Saturday afternoon - and who can be blame them. The pubs are open all day, they have cars to get about in and Sky TV has matches on back to back. Many watch the local teams or travel to watch Man Utd or whoever.
The Sunday League has 7 Divisions I believe - which I find a miracle in itself.Dave Donut

So Maggie has been out of power for 25 years, senile for many and dead for one - and it is her fault the Kiddy League (Saturday) has folded?! lol. The Kiddy League has always had teams from pubs and clubs - not 'mainly works teams'. The decline is much more social than industrial. On top of the reasons Ernie gives, there are many more students doing part time work at weekends, many more people work in retail parks and many more on zero-hour contracts who have no idea until the phone rings whether they are needed or not and thus cannot commit themselves. (If you are socialist/trade unionist and want to be militant, get over your grudges from the past and make a stand against zero-hours contracts. The reason the trade union movement was started was to fight against issues such as this.) Young men have more money, and more options than a generation ago. Clearly not many fancy playing on a Saturday afternoon - and who can be blame them. The pubs are open all day, they have cars to get about in and Sky TV has matches on back to back. Many watch the local teams or travel to watch Man Utd or whoever. The Sunday League has 7 Divisions I believe - which I find a miracle in itself.

Score: 13

Skijumper says...4:01pm Sat 17 May 14

The Kidderminster Company I worked at had 4 football teams on a Saturday + Sunday teams + mid week teams along with many others from the wyre forest area. All these industrial firms had their own grounds staff and kept immaculate pitches & changing facilities. Sorry can't remember any pubs or clubs in our divisions and they would not have had their own sports facilities as mentioned above unless they hired them. Young men have less true value money in their pockets in my opinion. I was fortunate in 1971 to get married and take out a mortgage, raise a family of 2, run a motor car, have my wife at home to look after the home & family without her working all on £33 pound a week. Try asking any of today's generation to equal that. How can you possibly delude yourself into thinking they have more money than even a generation ago absolute rubbish!

The Kidderminster Company I worked at had 4 football teams on a Saturday + Sunday teams + mid week teams along with many others from the wyre forest area. All these industrial firms had their own grounds staff and kept immaculate pitches & changing facilities. Sorry can't remember any pubs or clubs in our divisions and they would not have had their own sports facilities as mentioned above unless they hired them. Young men have less true value money in their pockets in my opinion. I was fortunate in 1971 to get married and take out a mortgage, raise a family of 2, run a motor car, have my wife at home to look after the home & family without her working all on £33 pound a week. Try asking any of today's generation to equal that. How can you possibly delude yourself into thinking they have more money than even a generation ago absolute rubbish!Skijumper

The Kidderminster Company I worked at had 4 football teams on a Saturday + Sunday teams + mid week teams along with many others from the wyre forest area. All these industrial firms had their own grounds staff and kept immaculate pitches & changing facilities. Sorry can't remember any pubs or clubs in our divisions and they would not have had their own sports facilities as mentioned above unless they hired them. Young men have less true value money in their pockets in my opinion. I was fortunate in 1971 to get married and take out a mortgage, raise a family of 2, run a motor car, have my wife at home to look after the home & family without her working all on £33 pound a week. Try asking any of today's generation to equal that. How can you possibly delude yourself into thinking they have more money than even a generation ago absolute rubbish!

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Dave Donut says...4:03pm Mon 19 May 14

Sounds like you are living in the past! Most of the big firm's sports and social facilities you are referring to closed down years ago. As I said, the decline in numbers of teams on a Saturday is much more social. Local firms closing is not the only reason. Ernie must be knocking on a bit by now, but he still has more of an idea about young people than you. Young people aren't as active as they were because there are lots of other options than playing football or cricket . Many have sedentary or no jobs and have become lazy. Fast food is cheap and easily available. That is why there is an obesity epidemic. There are as still many divisions on a Sunday now as there were a generation ago. Can your industrial decline due to Maggie explain that? Googling average incomes over the years, it appears you were lucky enough to be on an above average wage in 1971. It would equate to about £40k now. Certainly possible to do as you did on that - although you may have to rent instead of buying due to crazy house prices - but, of course, there are 21st century standards of living and expectations of consumer items, social life, hobbies and holidays that you couldn't have imagined.

Sounds like you are living in the past! Most of the big firm's sports and social facilities you are referring to closed down years ago.
As I said, the decline in numbers of teams on a Saturday is much more social. Local firms closing is not the only reason. Ernie must be knocking on a bit by now, but he still has more of an idea about young people than you. Young people aren't as active as they were because there are lots of other options than playing football or cricket . Many have sedentary or no jobs and have become lazy. Fast food is cheap and easily available. That is why there is an obesity epidemic.
There are as still many divisions on a Sunday now as there were a generation ago. Can your industrial decline due to Maggie explain that?
Googling average incomes over the years, it appears you were lucky enough to be on an above average wage in 1971. It would equate to about £40k now. Certainly possible to do as you did on that - although you may have to rent instead of buying due to crazy house prices - but, of course, there are 21st century standards of living and expectations of consumer items, social life, hobbies and holidays that you couldn't have imagined.Dave Donut

Sounds like you are living in the past! Most of the big firm's sports and social facilities you are referring to closed down years ago. As I said, the decline in numbers of teams on a Saturday is much more social. Local firms closing is not the only reason. Ernie must be knocking on a bit by now, but he still has more of an idea about young people than you. Young people aren't as active as they were because there are lots of other options than playing football or cricket . Many have sedentary or no jobs and have become lazy. Fast food is cheap and easily available. That is why there is an obesity epidemic. There are as still many divisions on a Sunday now as there were a generation ago. Can your industrial decline due to Maggie explain that? Googling average incomes over the years, it appears you were lucky enough to be on an above average wage in 1971. It would equate to about £40k now. Certainly possible to do as you did on that - although you may have to rent instead of buying due to crazy house prices - but, of course, there are 21st century standards of living and expectations of consumer items, social life, hobbies and holidays that you couldn't have imagined.

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Skijumper says...7:04pm Mon 19 May 14

Dave Donut wrote…

Sounds like you are living in the past! Most of the big firm's sports and social facilities you are referring to closed down years ago. As I said, the decline in numbers of teams on a Saturday is much more social. Local firms closing is not the only reason. Ernie must be knocking on a bit by now, but he still has more of an idea about young people than you. Young people aren't as active as they were because there are lots of other options than playing football or cricket . Many have sedentary or no jobs and have become lazy. Fast food is cheap and easily available. That is why there is an obesity epidemic. There are as still many divisions on a Sunday now as there were a generation ago. Can your industrial decline due to Maggie explain that? Googling average incomes over the years, it appears you were lucky enough to be on an above average wage in 1971. It would equate to about £40k now. Certainly possible to do as you did on that - although you may have to rent instead of buying due to crazy house prices - but, of course, there are 21st century standards of living and expectations of consumer items, social life, hobbies and holidays that you couldn't have imagined.

Sorry you cannot keep blaming and discrediting youngsters for being lazy and not wishing to partake in football or cricket. As soon as they can sit in front of a TV from an early age they become the target and eventually the products of the mind programming systems set up by huge businesses, manufacturers, etc. All with a vested interest in exploiting them for maximum gain, for example fashion, entertainment, fast food, mobile phones, computers, gymnasiums and many more businesses of course. All modern and must haves, but more importantly turning in billions in profits. No they are not lazy they have been conditioned by the all powerful system for the system's benefit.

[quote][p][bold]Dave Donut[/bold] wrote:
Sounds like you are living in the past! Most of the big firm's sports and social facilities you are referring to closed down years ago.
As I said, the decline in numbers of teams on a Saturday is much more social. Local firms closing is not the only reason. Ernie must be knocking on a bit by now, but he still has more of an idea about young people than you. Young people aren't as active as they were because there are lots of other options than playing football or cricket . Many have sedentary or no jobs and have become lazy. Fast food is cheap and easily available. That is why there is an obesity epidemic.
There are as still many divisions on a Sunday now as there were a generation ago. Can your industrial decline due to Maggie explain that?
Googling average incomes over the years, it appears you were lucky enough to be on an above average wage in 1971. It would equate to about £40k now. Certainly possible to do as you did on that - although you may have to rent instead of buying due to crazy house prices - but, of course, there are 21st century standards of living and expectations of consumer items, social life, hobbies and holidays that you couldn't have imagined.[/p][/quote]Sorry you cannot keep blaming and discrediting youngsters for being lazy and not wishing to partake in football or cricket. As soon as they can sit in front of a TV from an early age they become the target and eventually the products of the mind programming systems set up by huge businesses, manufacturers, etc. All with a vested interest in exploiting them for maximum gain, for example fashion, entertainment, fast food, mobile phones, computers, gymnasiums and many more businesses of course. All modern and must haves, but more importantly turning in billions in profits. No they are not lazy they have been conditioned by the all powerful system for the system's benefit.Skijumper

Dave Donut wrote…

Sounds like you are living in the past! Most of the big firm's sports and social facilities you are referring to closed down years ago. As I said, the decline in numbers of teams on a Saturday is much more social. Local firms closing is not the only reason. Ernie must be knocking on a bit by now, but he still has more of an idea about young people than you. Young people aren't as active as they were because there are lots of other options than playing football or cricket . Many have sedentary or no jobs and have become lazy. Fast food is cheap and easily available. That is why there is an obesity epidemic. There are as still many divisions on a Sunday now as there were a generation ago. Can your industrial decline due to Maggie explain that? Googling average incomes over the years, it appears you were lucky enough to be on an above average wage in 1971. It would equate to about £40k now. Certainly possible to do as you did on that - although you may have to rent instead of buying due to crazy house prices - but, of course, there are 21st century standards of living and expectations of consumer items, social life, hobbies and holidays that you couldn't have imagined.

Sorry you cannot keep blaming and discrediting youngsters for being lazy and not wishing to partake in football or cricket. As soon as they can sit in front of a TV from an early age they become the target and eventually the products of the mind programming systems set up by huge businesses, manufacturers, etc. All with a vested interest in exploiting them for maximum gain, for example fashion, entertainment, fast food, mobile phones, computers, gymnasiums and many more businesses of course. All modern and must haves, but more importantly turning in billions in profits. No they are not lazy they have been conditioned by the all powerful system for the system's benefit.

Score: 3

Dave Donut says...11:50am Tue 20 May 14

I am not blaming or discrediting youngsters. The point is that they don't want to play like we did. They have other interests. It is not that the facilities don't exist. Youth football is much better than when I was a kid. Better organised, better facilities. Coaching of childrens teams which are organised into leagues, girls not just boys playing, Harriers run clubs during school holidays at many local venues. I would have loved that. Artificial pitches…Five a side leagues.. And I agree with a lot of what you say. Its called Capitalism! Similar to what allowed you to earn that much money in the 1970's. And am glad to see that you are thinking into the varied reasons why youngsters don't just want to kick a football around rather than make a political point and blame everything on Maggie and the decline of local manufacturing.

I am not blaming or discrediting youngsters. The point is that they don't want to play like we did. They have other interests.
It is not that the facilities don't exist. Youth football is much better than when I was a kid. Better organised, better facilities. Coaching of childrens teams which are organised into leagues, girls not just boys playing, Harriers run clubs during school holidays at many local venues. I would have loved that. Artificial pitches…Five a side leagues..
And I agree with a lot of what you say. Its called Capitalism! Similar to what allowed you to earn that much money in the 1970's. And am glad to see that you are thinking into the varied reasons why youngsters don't just want to kick a football around rather than make a political point and blame everything on Maggie and the decline of local manufacturing.Dave Donut

I am not blaming or discrediting youngsters. The point is that they don't want to play like we did. They have other interests. It is not that the facilities don't exist. Youth football is much better than when I was a kid. Better organised, better facilities. Coaching of childrens teams which are organised into leagues, girls not just boys playing, Harriers run clubs during school holidays at many local venues. I would have loved that. Artificial pitches…Five a side leagues.. And I agree with a lot of what you say. Its called Capitalism! Similar to what allowed you to earn that much money in the 1970's. And am glad to see that you are thinking into the varied reasons why youngsters don't just want to kick a football around rather than make a political point and blame everything on Maggie and the decline of local manufacturing.

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