Update 2:Noktah Hitam posted the videos of the debate on his blog. Please check it out. I post part 1 of 5 as a teaser for everyone 😀 Check out these bloggers for their comments on the debate: chanlilian.net, KNizam, RockyBru and more blogs here.

ps: I just realised I spelled his name wrongly.. it should be Cheek instead of Chik, so amended the boo boo. Uh, there’s really a name ‘Cheek’ after all. Very cheeky..

Update 1: Astro Awani is carrying out the analysis on the debate. Very interesting. As usual they called up some ministers from both sides – Pakatan Rakyat and BN to get their comments on the debate. BN ministers never fail to amuse me, it is damn obvious the Information Minister has nothing, zilch facts when debating but still arrogantly said ‘Anwar Ibrahim has no facts, only rethorics’. Ha! Ha! Ha! You be the judge, please watch the debate video when it is out in the internet. I believe a video with complete subtitle will be out soon. Stay tune for that 🙂

Shabery Cheek obviously a lousy debater. He was often beating around the bushes and not to the points or questions raised. He was too emotional in making his points and focused too much on attacking Anwar Ibrahim’s past rather than debunking the points raised by him.

1. When talking about why Anwar insists to pursue his ambition to be the Prime Minister of Malaysia in order to reduce the fuel price and why can’t it be done with him outside the government.

Anwar chuckled and said that was why he was there for the debate and added that he is currently not in the govennment and his future is still uncertain but he felt compelled to make his points in this debate. Anwar openly said he and Pakatan Rakyat has no problem if the current government take into consideration his idea and implements it for the good of the people, and Pakatan Rakyat will support the good move and work with the government. The only question is whether the current government is willing to work with this idea? Will BN/UMNO listen and carry it out.

Shabery Cheek, while he supposed to answer that question (we would think an honest and good government that put the people’s interest will surely consider any good idea that will benefit the people), instead attacked Anwar – relating his past with Tun Razak and Mahathir and went on his ‘syok sendiri’ (self ego masturbation) mode on how Petronas under BN/UMNO rule is the best, how people can never deny that it is BN that efficiently manages the petroleum company. Typical BN/UMNO ‘syok sendiri’ and out of reality talk. How ridiculous!

2. Anwar explained in simple term how savings can be done from revising the lop sided agreements between the government/TNB and Independent Power Providers (IPPs), savings from corruption and wastages, then lastly using some profits from the increased revenue of Petronas to help reduce the burden of the people. His point is actually very simple – we need a good, wise and prudent management of government resources and efficient econonomy planning. He was entirely right when he focused his point on poor management of the country resources and wastages and trained his gun on the real cause of this whole issue – the government! The main issue is accountability and transparency of the government! Not Petronas, unlike the clueless Information Minister keep harping on!

But Shabery Cheek keep harping on why we should not use Petronas money to reduce the fuel price, comparing Venezuela, Iran and Saudi Arabia low fuel price but high inflation rate!! The guy just totally disillusioned and like I said was in his own ‘syok sendiri’ mode. To the point bro, Anwar already made a concrete stand when he said he supports Petronas and will not irresponsibly use Petronas as cash cow to solve the problem. As usual, Shabery just continued the often repeated, recycled points used by the government to justify the fuel price increase – it is a global issue, it is global issue, it is a global issue and it is a global issue. Yes that is all his points. Oh he had more points, mostly points on Anwar’s past, keep digging the dirts. Typical BN style, always resort to personal attacks when you are out of ideas. Any BN guys that can debate rationally?? Please?? Or their supporters???

3. Nordin Kardi, being a Vice Chancellor of Universiti Utara Malaysia (UUM) just made a fool of himself when he questioned Anwar’s points on IPPs agreement revision when the topic was on fuel. Then he mentioned something on why Anwar chose to talk on fuel price, saying he was fishing for popularity. Hey you dumbass maggot, IPPs are subsidized by the government to produce electricity lah!!! They get subsidized diesel to produce electricity and sell it at high price to TNB as agreed in the lop sided agreements signed during Mahathir time. Then this is a debate on fuel price, hence we talked about the price lah!!! Bodoh!! Dungu! Otak kat lutut ke?? Entah macam mana ko boleh jadi Naib Chanselor UUM. Muahahahahahahahaha!

4. It is quite obvious who is the better debater, one that consistently making personal attacks and dishing out many often irrelevant, confusing and meaningless points and another one that kept his cool and explained in clear flow his proposal and future planning if he is given the chance to efficiently manage the country and subsequently reduce the fuel price. Shabery started his debate with personal attacks against Anwar where he brought up the incident when Anwar was still a student leader leading demo against Tun Razak in 1974, in the middle of the debate again brought up the incident, mentioned something about IMF and dragged Anwar’s name in it and lastly concluded his debate again with personal attacks on Anwar Ibrahim and sempat this fella said the government was being generous in allowing the debate. Bah! What a sore loser???

All said, I must commend BN government under Pak Lah for allowing this debate to be carried out. Under the rule of Mahathir this debate is almost impossible to realised. It is a start. We must have an open policy on politics, let the people make their noise heard and decide for themselves what is right and what is wrong, what is true and what is false. Our political landscape is changing and it is for better, I hope.

ps: I was distracted and quite disturbed by the foaming mouth of Shabery Cheek. For a while I thought he would passed out, foaming fatally because he probably realised he was making no sense in any of his points. So distracting.

This is probably the kind of blog that is a total waste of time.
Missed last night’s debate and wished to catch up.Stumbled upon yours as the first on the internet and checked. Sorry to say, really two cents worth,nothing informative as you were not able to articulate yourself properly and all that came out from your comments were total gibberish. My two cents’ is : If u are malay,don’t be like our other peers who are quick to criticise other people and yet don’t realize or care of your own weakness in your inability to explain yourself properly.Even your opinions are not properly worded out.Sorry; that was my two cents’ worth.

Oh, I’m very sorry you have problem understanding my poor, gibberish English 🙂 Perhaps, you can share with some pointers on how to be more articulate in my writings and explain things more properly for YOU?

I can’t really explain myself more clear to a smart man like YOU, do I? Anyway, thanks dude, I appreciate your two cents.

I watched the debate with my dad last night, and while I am fluent in both Malay and English, I did find that your two cents coincided with mine (including the bit about his foaming mouth – I thought this government dog was rabid 😛 ).

Your English isn’t perfect, and you weren’t covering the debate point-by-point, hence the general overview, but you did articulate some good points.

Shabery def side-tracked when queried about the savings from last year’s 30 sens hike, that were supposed to be pumped into public transportation…….

And how about him missing the point made by DSAI that the key to keeping petrol price and inflation down is thru a combination of Petronas profits and proper governance….

I’m glad that this debate was held in BM….we would have been the laughing stock if the international community understood what was being exchanged…….our Information Minister and his aide was a total embarrassment, but must give it to Shabery for having the guts to be gutted on public television.

i must say he got balls standing up to Anwar, a well known great orator and that’s the point that the mainstream media is carrying out today. haha! they really made Shabery a hero and reported in the way that shabery who was considered the under-dog against such an experienced orator, managed to be outstanding and outshine anwar!! 😐 😐

DSAI didn’t table a solid formula on how to get the fuel price lower than what it is now. IPP is one of the area he’ll be looking at should PR get his hand on power at but we (rakyat) know it’s not that easy.

Did our dear Information minister better him on this area?. He should justify why there is an increase (should be easy, look at the world, it’s obvious) and why it’s on such high percentage, 40% (did he?). Where’s the fact and figures?

The mechanism that DSAI put on the table may be weak but the way he put it make it looks convincing. What facts have our dear minister tabled to obsolete what ever it is that DSAI threw? I remember he said a few things here and there but what was it about?.

For 50 minutes, this pattern goes on and on and at the end of the day, to me at lest, contents of the debate is not important anymore.

Both of them failed to address it well, especially you, dear minister sir, but this debate has revealed another thing, which is the level of professionalism.

Professionalism. And for someone who being elected as representative of rakyat to parliament obviously, our dear minister have literally humiliated the party that he represent (government) on National TV (which ironically, falls under his p.folio, Menteri Penerangan).

I’m going to vote on the next coming opportunity. If I were to vote on two idiots, I rather put my vote to the one whom at least, can be more professional on being one.

Ahh, that Nordin Kardi. Watching his antic that night made me remember a quote from RPK “If he is an academician, then Madonna is a virgin”.

Talking about how to play smart haha, the joke was on him. Does everyone who involves in counseling have this kind of antic? I remember my previous school counselor does. Hate that guy.

DSAI did not make one concrete point on how to bring down oil prices. Although a lot of you would say that he won the debate but under what merits?
Kalau kita cakap pasal cara bercakap memang DSAI no 1, aku rasa tak de sapa boleh challenge dia.
Tapi isu yang pentingnya kawan2 ialah sama ada dia beri kita ulasan cara2, langkah2 untuk menurunkan harga minyak, jawapannya sama sekali tidak!

Well we can’t expect him to table a solid formula in that debate and wasted the precious time given to him. I don’t expect many Malaysians will understand if a solid and comprehensive formula is presented to them. Heck, many still clueless about IPPs agreements, or what IPP is. Ask people around you and gauge the response.

Of course it’s not easy to revise the IPP agreement, it’s a very delicate matter and one must honor the agreement made. That’s something to ponder if DSAI decides to stay true to his words.