I'm not saying Siege is crap. I'm saying Ubi is crap because they did as little as possible to make a profit here, and it's pathetic, particularly when they used a beloved franchise (one of many they possess) to do it. It's a waste of resources. That's the sales prop you are defending. Don't like my opinion of it, too bad.

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Agreed. Siege could have been so much more.

I hope they are just testing the water with this title in order to see whether ppl are still interested in the series and then come out with SP story stuff in the next release? One can only hope, but would be reasonable from a greedy publisher's standpoint.

I hope they are just testing the water with this title in order to see whether ppl are still interested in the series and then come out with SP story stuff in the next release?

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With the success the past titles enjoyed?

Unless their sales analysts are all idiots or their own past records were lost in a fire, they damn well better know that there is a market for the series, specifically on the PC, but on consoles as well.

Unless their sales analysts are all idiots or their own past records were lost in a fire, they damn well better know that there is a market for the series, specifically on the PC, but on consoles as well.

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I am not arguing with you, but I think for some reason, they would only be interested in a title that has the potential to have some crazy success. Seems like they are trying to hook into some kind of competitive e-sport thing with the sales those succesful games have (i.e LoL, CS, Dota, CoD, etc..). I don't think they believe a single player tactical game is going to ever have that kind of appeal. That's just me speculating though. I am sure a single player rainbow 6 would make money, but I am also pretty sure it would never have the "potential" to make that kind of money. there has to be a reason they quit making actual tactical single player games back in 2003, if they made that much money they would still be milking that cow (this is ubisoft we are talking about).

Its still not worth the asking price, not even if you buy it from CDkeys and mosdef not in UK. You keep saying that it has all the free maps and operators to come blah blah, they are not here on day one though are they ?

You are paying the cash for whatever is presented to you at the point of sale. The rest is the same old PRE-ORDER BS that has stung me multiple times this year, I have decided to never pre-order anything again, its totally upto UBI to then keep their promise or not, you already parted with the cash, you are being taken for a spin and that is just plain dumb.

I mean the old fool me once saying has to make sense here? The game is a B-grade title no more no less (at this point in time), if UBI wanted the e-sports community interested this would have been free-to-play/freemium or a sub 20£ title.

^ pretty much true. This is like chaos theory -> blacklist as I said earlier. You can either take it, or leave it. People don't realize how much worse this game could have been.

Although coming from battlefield I would enjoy more players and larger maps, especially maps with more vertical (3+ floor buildings). Given all the future content is free, I hope we see something of the sorts.

I can understand people hating the game for its 60$ price tag, which they should.

We had another failed terrorist hunt on realistic yesterday. This is serious business. I think there's a 50% chance that a flashbang wont work, we couldnt even get through a door most of the time due to intense resistance. xD

patch fixes a lot of stuff. that infuriating hitreg from player positioning "lag" that caused you to get shot behind cover, hitreg on guys rappelling, hitboxes on shields rappelling...theyre even currently raising tickrates - experimenting with their server hardware to see if they can handle ~100tic