A lot of people dropping Haden's stock because of a 4 game suspension I see?

When players are this evenly matched, it happens. All three are fantastic like that, so SOMETHING has gotta give. In this discussion, it's Haden's suspension.

For me, it's:

1. Joseph
2a. Webb
2b. Haden

Hard to really figure out what makes one better than the other, to be honest. Haden is probably the most physical of the group, Webb has the most athletic skill, Joseph is the most technically sound. Not saying that Webb and Joseph aren't physical, not saying that Joseph and Haden don't have as much athletic skill, not saying that Webb and Haden aren't technically sounds...just that the leader in their respective category has a slight advantage._________________

A lot of people dropping Haden's stock because of a 4 game suspension I see?

When players are this evenly matched, it happens. All three are fantastic like that, so SOMETHING has gotta give. In this discussion, it's Haden's suspension.

For me, it's:

1. Joseph
2a. Webb
2b. Haden

Hard to really figure out what makes one better than the other, to be honest. Haden is probably the most physical of the group, Webb has the most athletic skill, Joseph is the most technically sound. Not saying that Webb and Joseph aren't physical, not saying that Joseph and Haden don't have as much athletic skill, not saying that Webb and Haden aren't technically sounds...just that the leader in their respective category has a slight advantage.

Joseph is by far the most athletic of the group. He has legit 4.3 speed and has a 37 inch vertical.

A lot of people dropping Haden's stock because of a 4 game suspension I see?

When players are this evenly matched, it happens. All three are fantastic like that, so SOMETHING has gotta give. In this discussion, it's Haden's suspension.

For me, it's:

1. Joseph
2a. Webb
2b. Haden

Hard to really figure out what makes one better than the other, to be honest. Haden is probably the most physical of the group, Webb has the most athletic skill, Joseph is the most technically sound. Not saying that Webb and Joseph aren't physical, not saying that Joseph and Haden don't have as much athletic skill, not saying that Webb and Haden aren't technically sounds...just that the leader in their respective category has a slight advantage.

Joseph is by far the most athletic of the group. He has legit 4.3 speed and has a 37 inch vertical.

Cool it. Even if Joseph is the most athletic of the group, it is not by far._________________All that is gold does not glitter,
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A lot of people dropping Haden's stock because of a 4 game suspension I see?

When players are this evenly matched, it happens. All three are fantastic like that, so SOMETHING has gotta give. In this discussion, it's Haden's suspension.

For me, it's:

1. Joseph
2a. Webb
2b. Haden

Hard to really figure out what makes one better than the other, to be honest. Haden is probably the most physical of the group, Webb has the most athletic skill, Joseph is the most technically sound. Not saying that Webb and Joseph aren't physical, not saying that Joseph and Haden don't have as much athletic skill, not saying that Webb and Haden aren't technically sounds...just that the leader in their respective category has a slight advantage.

Joseph is by far the most athletic of the group. He has legit 4.3 speed and has a 37 inch vertical.

That was six years ago when he timed out/measured out to all of that. Given his injury history in Cincy, I'd state that some of it's diminished. Not by some GREAT amount, but enough to say that Webb (4.35, 36.5) has taken the mantle._________________

A lot of people dropping Haden's stock because of a 4 game suspension I see?

When players are this evenly matched, it happens. All three are fantastic like that, so SOMETHING has gotta give. In this discussion, it's Haden's suspension.

For me, it's:

1. Joseph
2a. Webb
2b. Haden

Hard to really figure out what makes one better than the other, to be honest. Haden is probably the most physical of the group, Webb has the most athletic skill, Joseph is the most technically sound. Not saying that Webb and Joseph aren't physical, not saying that Joseph and Haden don't have as much athletic skill, not saying that Webb and Haden aren't technically sounds...just that the leader in their respective category has a slight advantage.

Joseph is by far the most athletic of the group. He has legit 4.3 speed and has a 37 inch vertical.

I wouldn't say "by far" at all.

Here's a comparison of combine results to Webb:

40
Joseph: 4.31
Webb: 4.46

3-cone
Joseph: 6.94
Webb: 6.77

Vert
Joseph: 37.0
Webb: 36.5

20 yard shuttle
Joseph: 4.27
Webb: 4.10

Broad Jump
Joseph: 123.0
Webb: 121.0

So, I'd definitely say Joseph is more explosive than Webb and faster straight line speed, but I'd argue that Webb is definitely just as, if not more, athletic in terms of COD and acceleration as evidenced by the 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone drills._________________

A lot of people dropping Haden's stock because of a 4 game suspension I see?

When players are this evenly matched, it happens. All three are fantastic like that, so SOMETHING has gotta give. In this discussion, it's Haden's suspension.

For me, it's:

1. Joseph
2a. Webb
2b. Haden

Hard to really figure out what makes one better than the other, to be honest. Haden is probably the most physical of the group, Webb has the most athletic skill, Joseph is the most technically sound. Not saying that Webb and Joseph aren't physical, not saying that Joseph and Haden don't have as much athletic skill, not saying that Webb and Haden aren't technically sounds...just that the leader in their respective category has a slight advantage.

Joseph is by far the most athletic of the group. He has legit 4.3 speed and has a 37 inch vertical.

That was six years ago when he timed out/measured out to all of that. Given his injury history in Cincy, I'd state that some of it's diminished. Not by some GREAT amount, but enough to say that Webb (4.35, 36.5) has taken the mantle.

Webb doesn't run a 4.35 though, not even close. He ran a 4.46 which I'm pretty sure Joseph could beat that time with relative ease. On the field you could see how fast Joseph is. He almost never gets burned which was demonstrated in the playoff game against the Ravens where he was matched up with speedster Torrey Smith. I doubt he lost his speed especially considering IIRC he didn't have any major injuries. On his worst day he probably still runs a 4.4 flat. Either way there's probably no point in arguing considering the big picture is that he's the best cornerback of the three regardless of athletic prowess.

A lot of people dropping Haden's stock because of a 4 game suspension I see?

When players are this evenly matched, it happens. All three are fantastic like that, so SOMETHING has gotta give. In this discussion, it's Haden's suspension.

For me, it's:

1. Joseph
2a. Webb
2b. Haden

Hard to really figure out what makes one better than the other, to be honest. Haden is probably the most physical of the group, Webb has the most athletic skill, Joseph is the most technically sound. Not saying that Webb and Joseph aren't physical, not saying that Joseph and Haden don't have as much athletic skill, not saying that Webb and Haden aren't technically sounds...just that the leader in their respective category has a slight advantage.

Joseph is by far the most athletic of the group. He has legit 4.3 speed and has a 37 inch vertical.

Cool it. Even if Joseph is the most athletic of the group, it is not by far.

A lot of people dropping Haden's stock because of a 4 game suspension I see?

When players are this evenly matched, it happens. All three are fantastic like that, so SOMETHING has gotta give. In this discussion, it's Haden's suspension.

For me, it's:

1. Joseph
2a. Webb
2b. Haden

Hard to really figure out what makes one better than the other, to be honest. Haden is probably the most physical of the group, Webb has the most athletic skill, Joseph is the most technically sound. Not saying that Webb and Joseph aren't physical, not saying that Joseph and Haden don't have as much athletic skill, not saying that Webb and Haden aren't technically sounds...just that the leader in their respective category has a slight advantage.

Joseph is by far the most athletic of the group. He has legit 4.3 speed and has a 37 inch vertical.

I wouldn't say "by far" at all.

Here's a comparison of combine results to Webb:

40
Joseph: 4.31
Webb: 4.46

3-cone
Joseph: 6.94
Webb: 6.77

Vert
Joseph: 37.0
Webb: 36.5

20 yard shuttle
Joseph: 4.27
Webb: 4.10

Broad Jump
Joseph: 123.0
Webb: 121.0

So, I'd definitely say Joseph is more explosive than Webb and faster straight line speed, but I'd argue that Webb is definitely just as, if not more, athletic in terms of COD and acceleration as evidenced by the 20 yard shuttle and 3 cone drills.

A lot of people dropping Haden's stock because of a 4 game suspension I see?

When players are this evenly matched, it happens. All three are fantastic like that, so SOMETHING has gotta give. In this discussion, it's Haden's suspension.

For me, it's:

1. Joseph
2a. Webb
2b. Haden

Hard to really figure out what makes one better than the other, to be honest. Haden is probably the most physical of the group, Webb has the most athletic skill, Joseph is the most technically sound. Not saying that Webb and Joseph aren't physical, not saying that Joseph and Haden don't have as much athletic skill, not saying that Webb and Haden aren't technically sounds...just that the leader in their respective category has a slight advantage.

Joseph is by far the most athletic of the group. He has legit 4.3 speed and has a 37 inch vertical.

That was six years ago when he timed out/measured out to all of that. Given his injury history in Cincy, I'd state that some of it's diminished. Not by some GREAT amount, but enough to say that Webb (4.35, 36.5) has taken the mantle.

Webb doesn't run a 4.35 though, not even close. He ran a 4.46 which I'm pretty sure Joseph could beat that time with relative ease. On the field you could see how fast Joseph is. He almost never gets burned which was demonstrated in the playoff game against the Ravens where he was matched up with speedster Torrey Smith. I doubt he lost his speed especially considering IIRC he didn't have any major injuries. On his worst day he probably still runs a 4.4 flat. Either way there's probably no point in arguing considering the big picture is that he's the best cornerback of the three regardless of athletic prowess.