This is the game we were all waiting for. Your mission is pretty simple:
Before you there is a big text. All you have to do is to start with quoting sentenses from there, arguing with the writer, and then start arguing with what others say.
The best quoting warrior, meaning the one that will fight with the most people and stick in his side creatively, will win a Golen medals. His two most challenging opponent will win Silver and Bronze medals.

Quote:If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college. I speak Spanish to God, French to men, Italian to women, and German to my horse. I am the State. An object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force. Funniest Poster of 2007: ZanJerusalem. I am a moderate Christian.The dinosaurs probably died in the deluge. Noah did not rescue them, perhaps because his arc was to small. I am nice to meet you all! I am the worst member ever. Please Geny silly sentences not confessions. The matter of the mail bomb that had destroyed half of my apartment the following year did cause me to wonder whether the statistical nature of reality might not be under a strain in my vicinity at that season. Namus is the best! How can someone worship a nember who have made only ONE post??? Why did the chicken cross the road? All things are made up of stuff. All things are made up of stuff. You probably thought you weren't gonna die today. Surprise! I love you too. This global warming definitely ain't good for the beer. The answer to everything: 42. Hey that's not silly, I based my entire life upon that philosophy! Ok it's silly. Compairing apples to oranges is bananas. No sideways floors will stop the lord of hellfire. Peanut planters are nuts, peanuts are not. Apples are better than Oranges. I mean, come on, everybody knows that Oranges >>>>>>>>>>>> Apples. Dude, it is not about THAT post, it's about how people find SOMETHING in a post and then start to make FUN out of it. It's not because he made one post doh. I vote for QP! i don't play with cheats, but i know all. Yeah riiight.

Quote:If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college. I speak Spanish to God, French to men, Italian to women, and German to my horse.

Are you saying that your Horse became a teacher at the college and convinced you to try to be his pupil? Hmm, not a bad idea, in fact I know some horses more intelligent than humans myself.

Quote:I am the State.

Now you crossed the line I think. You think that what you learned in a year from your horse (who is 100 times worse than mine, obviously) is so great that you can replace the entire State with your intelligence?

Quote:An object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force.

Wow, you pride yourself with this?!? Sorry to tell you, this is a very basic concept and everybody learns it when they're 3 years old
Your horse is not a good teacher (or you're a bad pupil)

Quote:Funniest Poster of 2007: ZanJerusalem. I am a moderate Christian.

Now your horse also taught you religion? But then again, how can you say that ZJ is a funny posted when you should respect him, because you're a religious fanatic yourself? Beats me...

Quote:The dinosaurs probably died in the deluge. Noah did not rescue them, perhaps because his arc was to small. I am nice to meet you all!

You're nice to meet all dinosaurs? Sorry, but that's a contradiction with your first phrase which says that all dinosaurs died.

Quote:The matter of the mail bomb that had destroyed half of my apartment the following year did cause me to wonder whether the statistical nature of reality might not be under a strain in my vicinity at that season.

Wow, what a long phrase, want a medal for it?

Quote:Namus is the best! How can someone worship a nember who have made only ONE post???

Again, you contradict yourself. You say Namus is the best and then question his almighty-ness.

Not only you talked about peanuts first, but then quickly changed the subject to Apples and Oranges for no apparent reason. And besides, you yet again contradict yourself, saying that Apples are better than Oranges and than saying Oranges >>>>>>>>>> Apples.

Quote:Dude, it is not about THAT post, it's about how people find SOMETHING in a post and then start to make FUN out of it. It's not because he made one post doh. I vote for QP! i don't play with cheats, but i know all. Yeah riiight.

QP? Cheats? Did I miss THAT post or what?

Sorry, but you're too vague... learn to spell and to start a debate if you want to post further in OSM. OSM is a SIRIOUS forum, we don't need your kind around here____________

Quote:If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

Well, hold on to that horse, then.

Quote:I speak Spanish to God, French to men, Italian to women, and German to my horse.

Well, that's how languages are supposed to be used.

Quote:I am the State.

No longer. Louis XIV was misquoted, then. It's best not to say this, since he never said that. Yes, he said something that implied that, but it's not nice to put words in his mouth. And, now, he no longer is the state. 200 or so years ago, the common people had enough, they were angry. They were sick of being used and mistreated. They had come to his very doorstep and... Well, you know, the people of France are free, now. Although, a new emperor would arise in ten years, at least, the people would have chosen this one.

Quote:An object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force.

In english?

Quote:poster of 2007: ZanJerusalem.

He was scary, more than funny

Quote:I am a moderate Christian.

Better than a zealot.

Quote:The dinosaurs probably died in the deluge

. w/e you say, pal.

Quote:Noah did not rescue them, perhaps because his arc was to small.

Or perhaps, Noah didn't wait 7 meter long carnivores in his ship!

Quote:I am nice to meet you all!

Arrogance doesn't suit you.

Quote:I am the worst member ever.

Indeed, everything you say, makes no sense.

Quote:Please Geny silly sentences not confessions.

Is Geny behind all this?

Quote:The matter of the mail bomb that had destroyed half of my apartment the following year did cause me to wonder whether the statistical nature of reality might not be under a strain in my vicinity at that season.

In plain english that means?

Quote:Namus is the best!

He's a'ight.

Quote:How can someone worship a nember who have made only ONE post???

How can someone worship a flying spaghetti monster?

Quote:Why did the chicken cross the road?

There are many many answers to that, pal This are the people I asked:
teacher:
to get to the other side

PLATO:
because of a higher purpose

ARISTOTELES:
It is the nature of chickens to cross roads.

KARL MARX:
This was historically inevitable

SADDAM HUSSEIN:
This was an unheard act of rebellion, so I HAD to use the nerve gas.

MARTIN LUTHER KING:
I had a dream. I dreamed that every chicken could cross the road unquestioned.

MOZES:
And God descended from heaven and said to the chicken: “Thou shalt crosseth streets.” And so did the chicken cross the street en there was much cheering and great joy. And God saw that it was good.

WILLY CLAES:
The chicken did not cross the street, I repeat, the chicken did not cross the street.

FILIP DEWINTER:
No, we did not send the chicken back. It went back on it’s own.

Quote:If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

This proves how patheticc you truly are. You needed a horse to make you go to college. I mean, it's a horse! It has less than half of your intelligence (though I doubt that's high either).

Quote:I speak Spanish to God, French to men, Italian to women, and German to my horse.

You could've saved time and just learned Interlingua.

Quote:I am the State.

Megalomania much?

Quote:An object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force.

And gravity causes things to fall down. New and exciting!

Quote:Funniest Poster of 2007: ZanJerusalem.

There's nothing funny about wanting the Inquistion to return in full force.

Quote:I am a moderate Christian.

If you're a moderate Christian, then I'm Paraform/Wesley/whatever he calls himself these days.

Quote:The dinosaurs probably died in the deluge. Noah did not rescue them, perhaps because his arc was to small.

There's a certain lack of archeological evidence for that. (inb4somebodysayingthatmytrustinmysensesisasgroundlessasreligiousbelief)

Quote:I am nice to meet you all! I am the worst member ever.

You neever spoke a truer word.

Quote:Please Geny silly sentences not confessions.

No, we want him to confess, don't we?

Quote:The matter of the mail bomb that had destroyed half of my apartment the following year did cause me to wonder whether the statistical nature of reality might not be under a strain in my vicinity at that season. Namus is the best!

Typical Namus-lover. I bet you're pro-skub too!

Quote:How can someone worship a nember who have made only ONE post???

Namus's one post is more of a contribution than all of yours.

Quote:Why did the chicken cross the road?

Does the chicken have to justify itself to you? Soon everyone will have to answer for all of their movements, and then they'll start confessing to being enemies of the people. Hello Siberia!

Quote:All things are made up of stuff. All things are made up of stuff.

The very idea of "things" is because we are unable to see things on the "stuff" level.

Quote:This global warming definitely ain't good for the beer. The answer to everything: 42.

The reference is funny, but not enough to stop global warming.

Quote:Hey that's not silly, I based my entire life upon that philosophy! Ok it's silly. Compairing apples to oranges is bananas... Apples are better than Oranges. I mean, come on, everybody knows that Oranges >>>>>>>>>>>> Apples.

You betray a great deal of ignorance in this part.

Quote:Peanut planters are nuts, peanuts are not.

The peanut planters have gone by way of the country squires.

Asheera:

Quote:Your horse is not a good teacher (or you're a bad pupil)

It's a horse. What'd you expect?

Quote:Now your horse also taught you religion?

Neigh, neigh, apparently that same horse taught you reading comprehension.

Quote:You're nice to meet all dinosaurs?

Ah. I see now. He's referring to the dinasaurs of HC, who died in the deluge of spambots.

Quote:Not only you talked about peanuts first, but then quickly changed the subject to Apples and Oranges for no apparent reason. And besides, you yet again contradict yourself, saying that Apples are better than Oranges and than saying Oranges >>>>>>>>>> Apples.

He's clearly conflicted, but with my help, he can get back on the right path.

DagothGares:

Quote:Respect, brotha.

If you don't see the contradiction in this statement, then we're done talking, before we even started.
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@Asheera, the OP was only expressing his opinion. Don't get me wrong but I find your post a little too offensive for that. I know you didn't mean it but try to keep an open mind about it -- ever wondered how most of the things he said can be true?

Quote:Are you saying that your Horse became a teacher at the college and convinced you to try to be his pupil? Hmm, not a bad idea, in fact I know some horses more intelligent than humans myself.

I think you are wrong here. While humans are far more intelligent than horses, the ones you referred to as "less intelligent" are actually not utilizing it and become, what people call, dumb. Note that smartness/dumbness have nothing to do with intelligence (IQ) itself -- they represent how much a certain guy learns how to use that, not only for his self instincts, but on a whole larger scale (such as, but not limited to, planning in advance for OTHERS, or philosophizing about the world, not simply "survival").

What most people fail to realize however is the distinction between these two is big. So big however that intelligence is not even a measure of how much "stuff" or "neurons" (whatever) you have. Can you say that a faster CPU running a much worse software and slower is more "performant"? The system as a whole is not. Intelligence is similar. If you have bad capabilities and algorithms and "imagination" to utilize it, then you're not what we call "intelligent" at all, regardless of your brain size or "brain power" (processing power).

Quote:Now you crossed the line I think. You think that what you learned in a year from your horse (who is 100 times worse than mine, obviously) is so great that you can replace the entire State with your intelligence?

I think what he meant was a state similar to Hitler or totalitarian systems. Every person is his own State, but it is obvious he enlarged it to everyone else (at least in his nation). Don't make mistake, we have to accept somewhat the speeches of Nazis and Hitlers if we want to call our system "free speech"! This does not mean we have to tolerate their ACTIONS, but we can't censor their words if we, at least, do not want to be in the same bowl.

Quote:Wow, you pride yourself with this?!? Sorry to tell you, this is a very basic concept and everybody learns it when they're 3 years old
Your horse is not a good teacher (or you're a bad pupil)

This law, known as Newton's First Law, is valid as much as we have seen. However as Quantum Mechanics combined with some Relativity have shown, the "observer" is relative -- where you observe matters a lot. In fact, everything is relative, and thus absolute knowledge is completely impossible. Calling such a law "3 years old stuff" is quite ignorant of the advanced stuff that we discovered. Most of Newton's laws fail in relativity anyway, because the "information" travelling requires TIME -- they travel with the speed of light.

Now one must put up the question, in a philosophical debate like this, whether such laws are correct, or they can be broken. Is reality all an "idealistic" one where what our subconscious expects matters? Think about it: when you think that you fly, you don't really believe it's possible, and your subconscious doesn't make it possible. When you look at water turning into ice at -20 degrees Celsius, you believe it's possible, and your subconscious does as well, it's why it happens!

All the things that we call impossible, are in fact, things that we do not truly believe they are possible. This is the barrier that prevents us from making them possible. If we can concentrate our minds and subconscious maybe there is indeed, as they say, "No Spoon". Or is it?

Quote:Now your horse also taught you religion? But then again, how can you say that ZJ is a funny posted when you should respect him, because you're a religious fanatic yourself? Beats me...

I fail to see the point in this. There is an axiom, a postulate, that your above posts takes it "for granted". It is called belief in the logic of contradiction. Have you ever questioned it? No, you express yourself arrogantly as to "how can it be" and continue to burrow your head in the sand. Don't expect a serious reply with that attitude.

Quote:You're nice to meet all dinosaurs? Sorry, but that's a contradiction with your first phrase which says that all dinosaurs died.

Meh, he just simply forgot to put a newline, and you attack him for that. How about you take a look at the main point of his text first hmmm.

Quote:You're the worst member ever indeed, just look what you told to Geny

Let's cut the personal attacks shall we?

Quote:Wow, what a long phrase, want a medal for it?

If you are lazy to read phrases that are on topic, then DON'T POST and get out of this thread. No one forces you to read it, and going off topic just because you don't like the subject makes you a spammer. I expect some mod to make order here.

Quote:Again, you contradict yourself. You say Namus is the best and then question his almighty-ness.

See above with the logic of contradiction.

Quote:

Quote:Why did the chicken cross the road?

You tell me, wise guy.

Why do you constantly keep on insulting people and rip their quotes out of their main points?

Quote:O rly? Back up your statement please...

This is a serious topic, not a stupid VW thread. While I agree he did not use arguments, at least don't attack him like that and THINK about it.

Quote:Hmm, love causes death? If that's what you think, you're a twisted individual

LOL what are you, a crusader? You tell him to back his statements, and then you make claims like "You are a twisted individual" just like that and expect a honest response?

Quote:Beer sucks anyway.

Please be more constructive and not spam.

Quote:Who said it's silly? The answer is indeed 42!

Please provide arguments, as you said.

Quote:Not only you talked about peanuts first, but then quickly changed the subject to Apples and Oranges for no apparent reason. And besides, you yet again contradict yourself, saying that Apples are better than Oranges and than saying Oranges >>>>>>>>>> Apples.

It's not his problem that you fail to see the reason there. I don't like to explain stuff 5 year olds already know.

Besides, why would I waste my time arguing with you, when you're too lazy to read? I'm to lazy to write as well

Now you crossed the line I think. You think that what you learned in a year from your horse (who is 100 times worse than mine, obviously) is so great that you can replace the entire State with your intelligence?
-Apparently this one is not versed in famous quotes.

Quote:An object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force.

Wow, you pride yourself with this?!? Sorry to tell you, this is a very basic concept and everybody learns it when they're 3 years old
Your horse is not a good teacher (or you're a bad pupil)
-Someone has a horses fetish Maybe you were the one taught in stables?

Quote:Funniest Poster of 2007: ZanJerusalem. I am a moderate Christian.

Now your horse also taught you religion? But then again, how can you say that ZJ is a funny posted when you should respect him, because you're a religious fanatic yourself? Beats me...
-Insufficient argument, a man can be ridiculous even if he is in the same religious group as you. Some simply are an affront to what you believe in.

Quote:The dinosaurs probably died in the deluge. Noah did not rescue them, perhaps because his arc was to small. I am nice to meet you all!

You're nice to meet all dinosaurs? Sorry, but that's a contradiction with your first phrase which says that all dinosaurs died.
-Someone is missing the whole point. A phrase can be placed in the beginning or the end of an argument as long as there is sufficient explanation, read between the lines.

You're the worst member ever indeed, just look what you told to Geny
-As far as I'm concerned that was a reasonable reply to what Geny said. It pretty much looks like a confession.

Quote:The matter of the mail bomb that had destroyed half of my apartment the following year did cause me to wonder whether the statistical nature of reality might not be under a strain in my vicinity at that season.

Wow, what a long phrase, want a medal for it?
-Ah the typical answer to people who are bored to read more than two lines of text. Did you even read much less comprehend it? Probably too much of a strain for your feeble mind.

Quote:Namus is the best! How can someone worship a nember who have made only ONE post???

Again, you contradict yourself. You say Namus is the best and then question his almighty-ness.
-Obviously the first sentence is ironic, again you fail to read between the lines.

Quote:Why did the chicken cross the road?

You tell me, wise guy.
-That is not an answer, if you don't know why do you even reply?

Quote:All things are made up of stuff.

O rly? Back up your statement please...
-Waait you don't want to talk about stuff? Are you that close minded?

Not only you talked about peanuts first, but then quickly changed the subject to Apples and Oranges for no apparent reason. And besides, you yet again contradict yourself, saying that Apples are better than Oranges and than saying Oranges >>>>>>>>>> Apples.
-Who did what? Don't mix the authors lest you create any simultaneous quote wars.

Quote:Dude, it is not about THAT post, it's about how people find SOMETHING in a post and then start to make FUN out of it. It's not because he made one post doh. I vote for QP! i don't play with cheats, but i know all. Yeah riiight.

QP? Cheats? Did I miss THAT post or what?
-Not just the post ____________
Let us rally an army against fred. Fred prepare for the metallic taste of doom.
-Celfious

Quote:If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.

Bad manners! Bill Gates may look like a horse, but he isn't

Quote:I speak Spanish to God, French to men, Italian to women, and German to my horse.

Jeez, what a snicker.

Quote: I am the State.

Correction. A Megalomaniac Snicker.

Quote:An object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force.

Like your head?

Quote:Funniest Poster of 2007: ZanJerusalem.

Most thought full poster: KD

Quote:I am a moderate Christian.
The dinosaurs probably died in the deluge. Noah did not rescue them, perhaps because his arc was to small.

Does a Nobel Price for unshamefull lying exist or are you just less gifted?

Quote:I am nice to meet you all!

K

Quote:I am the worst member ever.

Someone has to be the worst, none can do

Quote:The matter of the mail bomb that had destroyed half of my apartment the following year did cause me to wonder whether the statistical nature of reality might not be under a strain in my vicinity at that season.

Celpheous? Is that you?

Quote:Namus is the best!

Yeah, right and Skelele is the best poster

Quote:How can someone worship a nember who have made only ONE post???

How can someone worship a member with 5 accounts?

Quote:Why did the chicken cross the road?

OMGWYFBBQ

Quote: All things are made up of stuff.

Even stuff is.

Quote:You probably thought you weren't gonna die today.
Surprise!

Yep, I dediced to cancel that Duel with Asheera anyway.

Quote:I love you too.

I love you too too

Quote:This global warming definitely ain't good for the beer.

What do you call Budweiser than?

Quote:The answer to everything: 42.

Define everything.

Quote:Hey that's not silly, I based my entire life upon that philosophy!
Ok it's silly.

How can you be sure? If all is relative, maybe only the "I" counts and creates everything so to speak. There is no "absolute" Universe, it has been demonstrated, or we are incapable of knowing it -- thus making you have no arguments at all as to why you "think" there is an absolute one, since it is impossible to prove. Everything is my creation, or your creation, etc?? When we sleep, our subconscious expects some things, it's why things happen when you sleep. But is it not all your creation?

Quote:says the guy who says that uniform statistical distrubtion is subjective.

Of course it is, it's a postulate! It hasn't been proven absolutely, it's just what we deduced or assumed about the world!
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The above post is subject to SIRIOUSness.
No jokes were harmed during the making of this signature.

Quote:Are you saying that your Horse became a teacher at the college and convinced you to try to be his pupil? Hmm, not a bad idea, in fact I know some horses more intelligent than humans myself.

I think you are wrong here. While humans are far more intelligent than horses, the ones you referred to as "less intelligent" are actually not utilizing it and become, what people call, dumb. Note that smartness/dumbness have nothing to do with intelligence (IQ) itself -- they represent how much a certain guy learns how to use that, not only for his self instincts, but on a whole larger scale (such as, but not limited to, planning in advance for OTHERS, or philosophizing about the world, not simply "survival").

What most people fail to realize however is the distinction between these two is big. So big however that intelligence is not even a measure of how much "stuff" or "neurons" (whatever) you have. Can you say that a faster CPU running a much worse software and slower is more "performant"? The system as a whole is not. Intelligence is similar. If you have bad capabilities and algorithms and "imagination" to utilize it, then you're not what we call "intelligent" at all, regardless of your brain size or "brain power" (processing power).I respect your opinion about this, but it's completely wrong. It's a know fact that a high speed processor who runs a slow software is more performant than a low speed processor, even though the result is that the software program runs slower. This is a FACT, don't make me tell you why, just use Google. (I'm lazy and it's too long to explain)

Quote:I think what he meant was a state similar to Hitler or totalitarian systems. Every person is his own State, but it is obvious he enlarged it to everyone else (at least in his nation). Don't make mistake, we have to accept somewhat the speeches of Nazis and Hitlers if we want to call our system "free speech"! This does not mean we have to tolerate their ACTIONS, but we can't censor their words if we, at least, do not want to be in the same bowl.

No, you misunderstood him completely. He said *I* am the State, not *WE* are the State

Quote:This law, known as Newton's First Law, is valid as much as we have seen. However as Quantum Mechanics combined with some Relativity have shown, the "observer" is relative -- where you observe matters a lot. In fact, everything is relative, and thus absolute knowledge is completely impossible. Calling such a law "3 years old stuff" is quite ignorant of the advanced stuff that we discovered. Most of Newton's laws fail in relativity anyway, because the "information" travelling requires TIME -- they travel with the speed of light.

You're off my point completely. I didn't say the law is "3 years old stuff", I said that you LEARN it when you're three years old, which means it's very easy to learn. It's completely different from what you said.

Quote:Now one must put up the question, in a philosophical debate like this, whether such laws are correct, or they can be broken. Is reality all an "idealistic" one where what our subconscious expects matters? Think about it: when you think that you fly, you don't really believe it's possible, and your subconscious doesn't make it possible. When you look at water turning into ice at -20 degrees Celsius, you believe it's possible, and your subconscious does as well, it's why it happens!

No, even if I truly believe I fly, I won't fly no matter what.

Quote:All the things that we call impossible, are in fact, things that we do not truly believe they are possible. This is the barrier that prevents us from making them possible. If we can concentrate our minds and subconscious maybe there is indeed, as they say, "No Spoon". Or is it?

Look above.

Quote:I fail to see the point in this. There is an axiom, a postulate, that your above posts takes it "for granted". It is called belief in the logic of contradiction. Have you ever questioned it? No, you express yourself arrogantly as to "how can it be" and continue to burrow your head in the sand. Don't expect a serious reply with that attitude.

I don't really see the relevance of this.

Quote:Meh, he just simply forgot to put a newline, and you attack him for that. How about you take a look at the main point of his text first hmmm.

Great, now you're a mind-reader as well. How do you know he forgot to put a newline?

Quote:Let's cut the personal attacks shall we?

Not before he cuts the personal attacks first. Look what he told to Geny

Quote:If you are lazy to read phrases that are on topic, then DON'T POST and get out of this thread. No one forces you to read it, and going off topic just because you don't like the subject makes you a spammer. I expect some mod to make order here.

I READ that phrase, but it doesn't make any sense. I think he just wanted to show how "smart" he is when it's completely the opposite

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:Why did the chicken cross the road?

You tell me, wise guy.

Why do you constantly keep on insulting people and rip their quotes out of their main points?

He asks an impossible to answer question, intentionally to make fun of smart people, and I'm supposed to reply nicely?

Quote:

Quote:O rly? Back up your statement please...

This is a serious topic, not a stupid VW thread. While I agree he did not use arguments, at least don't attack him like that and THINK about it.

Look who's talking. Your paragraph here is completely useless. At least mine gave the OP some advice (to back up his statements)

Quote:LOL what are you, a crusader? You tell him to back his statements, and then you make claims like "You are a twisted individual" just like that and expect a honest response?

So if I say Hitler and Stalin were twisted individuals, I'm a crusader

Quote:

Quote:Who said it's silly? The answer is indeed 42!

Please provide arguments, as you said.

Everybody knows this. You're either joking or a complete "idiot" (not an insult, people with low IQ are called idiots)

Quote:It's not his problem that you fail to see the reason there. I don't like to explain stuff 5 year olds already know.

As mvass said: "If you don't see the contradiction in this statement, then we're done talking, before we even started."
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Quote:I respect your opinion about this, but it's completely wrong. It's a know fact that a high speed processor who runs a slow software is more performant than a low speed processor, even though the result is that the software program runs slower. This is a FACT, don't make me tell you why, just use Google. (I'm lazy and it's too long to explain)

LOL you tell a HAXXOR what are facts and what are not? A high end processor usually, if built on the same techniques but with more power, uses more energy. This energy, then, is WASTED by the software because it is designed bloated or wrong. It is not only less "intelligent" but also you see, uses a lot more power for the same stuff. In fact, let's say that he not only solves your problem but also gives you heat. Is that ok? Of course it isn't intelligent, since you don't even want heat (it's why you have coolers right?). Therefore, it is less intelligent. And please, if you are lazy to check your FALSE references (I'm a haxxor so trust me but feel free to check), then don't bother replying.

Quote:No, you misunderstood him completely. He said *I* am the State, not *WE* are the State

Hitler said "WE"? I thought he had only one personality

seriously pay more attention to what I say.

Quote:You're off my point completely. I didn't say the law is "3 years old stuff", I said that you LEARN it when you're three years old, which means it's very easy to learn. It's completely different from what you said.

He supplied the law, without arguments, just to remind us. I doubt you would be able to reproduce it word after word, so

Quote:No, even if I truly believe I fly, I won't fly no matter what.

Proof?

I admit, I don't have proof either, but we BOTH make arguments. See? You aren't better than me. While I, however, use philosophical arguments (you can see that from relativity and quantum mechanics, that the "observer" matters!!).

Quote:Look above.

Why did you use 2 quotes then?

Quote:I don't really see the relevance of this.

You use axioms all the time and yet you say to others that they are wrong simply because they contradict your axioms (or shall i say, beliefs?)??????

That's my point but you're too ignorant to see it.

Quote:Great, now you're a mind-reader as well. How do you know he forgot to put a newline?

It's obvious from the point of the thread, if you would be kind enough to read it properly.

Quote:Not before he cuts the personal attacks first. Look what he told to Geny

Maturity notice: Don't attack someone else because he did -- report him to a moderator.

You wouldn't want to get down to his level, would you?

Quote:I READ that phrase, but it doesn't make any sense. I think he just wanted to show how "smart" he is when it's completely the opposite

Arguments?

Quote:He asks an impossible to answer question, intentionally to make fun of smart people, and I'm supposed to reply nicely?

So I take it, you never heard of philosophy, right?

And you know what? You don't like his question, then DON'T REPLY. It's simple really.

Quote:Look who's talking. Your paragraph here is completely useless. At least mine gave the OP some advice (to back up his statements)

Note: another personal attack.

Completely useless? Are you writing just to show off? What is completely useless about giving THOUGHT on a subject before pressing the REPLY button?

Useless? If you see it that way, at least back it up.

Quote:So if I say Hitler and Stalin were twisted individuals, I'm a crusader

Yes, even though most people don't realize it, since "everyone" thinks the same. Try some neutral perspectives will you?

Crusaders were also "the majority" in a given nation as well.

Quote:Everybody knows this. You're either joking or a complete "idiot" (not an insult, people with low IQ are called idiots)

Thank you for your off-the-point response. This is proof how sociable you are. When someone disagrees with you and asks arguments, you insult his IQ. Brilliant! Keep it up.

I have noticed that on you. Please be more constructive.

Quote:As mvass said: "If you don't see the contradiction in this statement, then we're done talking, before we even started."

That's exactly what I said. Where will that get us?

Notes to you:
1) Learn philosophy
2) Study philosophy
3) Understand how to REPLY in a philosophical argument/question/subject.
4) If you don't like a question, DON'T REPLY to it saying how "obvious" it is. Provide arguments
5) Don't insult people when they disagree with you, and ask you for arguments you DON'T HAVE.

Quote:@TheDeath: Bleh, it's completely useless to discuss with you. It's like I'm talking to Fortress Fan He (you) keeps on saying the same stuff no matter how many proofs and arguments someone gives him.

Can you explain to FF that religion is useless? Sure you can, but he won't listen and repeat the same stuff all over again. That's what you do

Do not attac the messenger, but argue against the message. Point out the previous points he made. And say when he's falling into repetition. And we can all grwo out of this____________
If you have any more questions, go to Dagoth Cares.

@Asheera: You're the one refusing to back with arguments and discussions (look at the volume of "paragraphs" I write compared to yours). You only say "it's obvious" or "everyone knows that".

It is you who are close to FF

@Dagoth, first of all this was addressed to Asheera, but anyway:

Quote:I would love too, but that requires time and devotion. The basics I know. Are those enough.

As long as you don't post about stuff you didn't devote to, yes.

Quote:You're falling into repetition.

Learn and Study are two different things. One requires memorizing certain criteria. The later requires forming a model of THOUGHT about it. Learning makes you knowledgable about what others have done and duplicate that. Studying makes you think about it in new ways.

Example: I learned how to spell -- you do what others have already done, and educate yourself.

I study the quantum effects -- you analyze and examine the quantum effects, possibly making a novel theory.

Quote:reply calmly and respectfully, which is advisable in EVERY conversation.

Agreed.

Quote:Enlighten me, please.

If I ask you to supply arguments, you shouldn't reply with "Doh! That is so obvious, everyone knows that!" when in fact, you don't have arguments.

this was talking in general (and Ash) so not about you.

Quote:Do not attac the messenger, but argue against the message. Point out the previous points he made.

Because Lexxan, your points have already been addressed in my posts, since you replied to the OP and didn't actually come up with anything new to the discussion, apart from pointing out how "dumb" he is or "silly" (e.g: he doesn't use cheats).
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Quote:Are you saying that your Horse became a teacher at the college and convinced you to try to be his pupil? Hmm, not a bad idea, in fact I know some horses more intelligent than humans myself.

I think you are wrong here. While humans are far more intelligent than horses, the ones you referred to as "less intelligent" are actually not utilizing it and become, what people call, dumb. Note that smartness/dumbness have nothing to do with intelligence (IQ) itself -- they represent how much a certain guy learns how to use that, not only for his self instincts, but on a whole larger scale (such as, but not limited to, planning in advance for OTHERS, or philosophizing about the world, not simply "survival").

They are both wrong. Asheera's idea makes no sense, because the two sentencens don't follow the same idea. Firstly she informs us that she considers a good move from an unkown guy called Horse (he's not on HC, isn't he) to become the teacher of GL. Afterwards, she told us that she knows horses more intelligent than some people. I can't see the link.
(Asheera, I would really like to play a H5 duel against one of those horses of yours.)
The Death uses too many words. Can we ban him?

Quote:What most people fail to realize however is the distinction between these two is big. So big however that intelligence is not even a measure of how much "stuff" or "neurons" (whatever) you have. Can you say that a faster CPU running a much worse software and slower is more "performant"? The system as a whole is not. Intelligence is similar. If you have bad capabilities and algorithms and "imagination" to utilize it, then you're not what we call "intelligent" at all, regardless of your brain size or "brain power" (processing power).

I respect your opinion about this, but it's completely wrong. It's a know fact that a high speed processor who runs a slow software is more performant than a low speed processor, even though the result is that the software program runs slower. This is a FACT, don't make me tell you why, just use Google. (I'm lazy and it's too long to explain)

Quote:I think what he meant was a state similar to Hitler or totalitarian systems. Every person is his own State, but it is obvious he enlarged it to everyone else (at least in his nation). Don't make mistake, we have to accept somewhat the speeches of Nazis and Hitlers if we want to call our system "free speech"! This does not mean we have to tolerate their ACTIONS, but we can't censor their words if we, at least, do not want to be in the same bowl.

No, you misunderstood him completely. He said *I* am the State, not *WE* are the State

I see the mesage behind your lines, Asheera and I must hereby decree that I agree. But you could have told it in much simpler words: Ilikes cheese .

Quote:This law, known as Newton's First Law, is valid as much as we have seen. However as Quantum Mechanics combined with some Relativity have shown, the "observer" is relative -- where you observe matters a lot. In fact, everything is relative, and thus absolute knowledge is completely impossible. Calling such a law "3 years old stuff" is quite ignorant of the advanced stuff that we discovered. Most of Newton's laws fail in relativity anyway, because the "information" travelling requires TIME -- they travel with the speed of light.

You're off my point completely. I didn't say the law is "3 years old stuff", I said that you LEARN it when you're three years old, which means it's very easy to learn. It's completely different from what you said.

You are wrong, Asheera. Things are a lot more complicated than they look.

An object at rest tends to stay at rest and an object in motion tends to stay in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force.
There are two parts to this statement - one which predicts the behavior of stationary objects and the other which predicts the behavior of moving objects. The two parts are summarized in the following diagram.
The behavior of all objects can be described by saying that objects tend to "keep on doing what they're doing" (unless acted upon by an unbalanced force). If at rest, they will continue in this same state of rest. If in motion with an eastward velocity of 5 m/s, they will continue in this same state of motion (5 m/s, East). If in motion with a leftward velocity of 2 m/s, they will continue in this same state of motion (2 m/s, left). The state of motion of an object is maintained as long as the object is not acted upon by an unbalanced force. All objects resist changes in their state of motion - they tend to "keep on doing what they're doing."
Suppose that you filled a baking dish to the rim with water and walked around an oval track making an attempt to complete a lap in the least amount of time. The water would have a tendency to spill from the container during specific locations on the track. In general the water spilled when:
the container was at rest and you attempted to move it
the container was in motion and you attempted to stop it
the container was moving in one direction and you attempted to change its direction.
The water spills whenever the state of motion of the container is changed. The water resisted this change in its own state of motion. The water tended to "keep on doing what it was doing." The container was moved from rest to a high speed at the starting line; the water remained at rest and spilled onto the table. The container was stopped near the finish line; the water kept moving and spilled over container's leading edge. The container was forced to move in a different direction to make it around a curve; the water kept moving in the same direction and spilled over its edge. The behavior of the water during the lap around the track can be explained by Newton's first law of motion.

See, now repeat after me: "I like cheese...An object at rest tends to..."

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Quote:Now one must put up the question, in a philosophical debate like this, whether such laws are correct, or they can be broken. Is reality all an "idealistic" one where what our subconscious expects matters? Think about it: when you think that you fly, you don't really believe it's possible, and your subconscious doesn't make it possible. When you look at water turning into ice at -20 degrees Celsius, you believe it's possible, and your subconscious does as well, it's why it happens!

No, even if I truly believe I fly, I won't fly no matter what.

Yes you do. I did it yesterday.

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Quote:All the things that we call impossible, are in fact, things that we do not truly believe they are possible. This is the barrier that prevents us from making them possible. If we can concentrate our minds and subconscious maybe there is indeed, as they say, "No Spoon". Or is it?

Look above.

Quote:I fail to see the point in this. There is an axiom, a postulate, that your above posts takes it "for granted". It is called belief in the logic of contradiction. Have you ever questioned it? No, you express yourself arrogantly as to "how can it be" and continue to burrow your head in the sand. Don't expect a serious reply with that attitude.

I don't really see the relevance of this.

You are way to SIRIOUS. Go eat some cheese.

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Quote:Meh, he just simply forgot to put a newline, and you attack him for that. How about you take a look at the main point of his text first hmmm.

Great, now you're a mind-reader as well. How do you know he forgot to put a newline?

It is possible to read someone¡¦s mind by remotely measuring their brain activity, researchers have shown. The technique can even extract information from subjects that they are not aware of themselves.

So far, it has only been used to identify visual patterns a subject can see or has chosen to focus on. But the researchers speculate the approach might be extended to probe a person¡¦s awareness, focus of attention, memory and movement intention. In the meantime, it could help doctors work out if patients apparently in a coma are actually conscious.

Scientists have already trained monkeys to move a robotic arm with the power of thought and to recreate scenes moving in front of cats by recording information directly from the feline¡¦s neurons (New Scientist print edition, 2 October 1999). But these processes involve implanting electrodes into their brains to hook them up to a computer.

Now Yukiyasu Kamitani, at ATR Computational Neuroscience Laboratories in Kyoto, Japan, and Frank Tong at Princeton University in New Jersey, US, have achieved similar ¡§mind reading¡¨ feats remotely using functional MRI scanning.

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Quote:Let's cut the personal attacks shall we?

Not before he cuts the personal attacks first. Look what he told to Geny

Cut, cut, cut. are you emo?

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Quote:If you are lazy to read phrases that are on topic, then DON'T POST and get out of this thread. No one forces you to read it, and going off topic just because you don't like the subject makes you a spammer. I expect some mod to make order here.

I READ that phrase, but it doesn't make any sense. I think he just wanted to show how "smart" he is when it's completely the opposite

I developed a H5 MOD to make order here. VokialBG is delighted, because it can be used in oline matches even if the opponenet doesn't have it installed. This is the secret behind Namus's triumph in ToH.

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Quote:Why did the chicken cross the road?

You tell me, wise guy.

Why do you constantly keep on insulting people and rip their quotes out of their main points?

He asks an impossible to answer question, intentionally to make fun of smart people, and I'm supposed to reply nicely?

Good that you don't try to make fun off me. Wait, you do.. no, i think it's...

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Quote:O rly? Back up your statement please...

This is a serious topic, not a stupid VW thread. While I agree he did not use arguments, at least don't attack him like that and THINK about it.

Look who's talking. Your paragraph here is completely useless. At least mine gave the OP some advice (to back up his statements)

I can move thing with my mind. Wanna move this thread in the VW?

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Quote:LOL what are you, a crusader? You tell him to back his statements, and then you make claims like "You are a twisted

individual" just like that and expect a honest response?

So if I say Hitler and Stalin were twisted individuals, I'm a crusader

I'm Gugu. Nice to mmet you.

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Quote:Who said it's silly? The answer is indeed 42!

Please provide arguments, as you said.

Everybody knows this. You're either joking or a complete "idiot" (not an insult, people with low IQ are called idiots)

The Death, you should't made the meaning of life public. Now, you are not so special anymore.

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Quote:It's not his problem that you fail to see the reason there. I don't like to explain stuff 5 year olds already know.

As mvass said: "If you don't see the contradiction in this statement, then we're done talking, before we even started."

Could you please explain this from the "It's not his problem" thing? Thanks.
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Quote:Because Lexxan, your points have already been addressed in my posts, since you replied to the OP and didn't actually come up with anything new to the discussion, apart from pointing out how "dumb" he is or "silly" (e.g: he doesn't use cheats).

Whatever. It's in my right to reply with things like "silly". But anything new to the Discussion?

Let me add the subject of KD, Global Warming and Beer to the conversation and we're getting started ____________
Coincidence? I think not!!!!

Quote:Because Lexxan, your points have already been addressed in my posts, since you replied to the OP and didn't actually come up with anything new to the discussion, apart from pointing out how "dumb" he is or "silly" (e.g: he doesn't use cheats).

Whatever. It's in my right to reply with things like "silly". But anything new to the Discussion?

Let me add the subject of KD, Global Warming and Beer to the conversation and we're getting started

Compare this to this:

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If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college.
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Well, hold on to that horse, then.

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I speak Spanish to God, French to men, Italian to women, and German to my horse.
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No longer. Louis XIV was misquoted, then. It's best not to say this, since he never said that. Yes, he said something that implied that, but it's not nice to put words in his mouth. And, now, he no longer is the state. 200 or so years ago, the common people had enough, they were angry. They were sick of being used and mistreated. They had come to his very doorstep and... Well, you know, the people of France are free, now. Although, a new emperor would arise in ten years, at least, the people would have chosen this one.

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An object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force.
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The dinosaurs probably died in the deluge
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. w/e you say, pal.
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Noah did not rescue them, perhaps because his arc was to small.
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Or perhaps, Noah didn't wait 7 meter long carnivores in his ship!
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I am nice to meet you all!
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Is Geny behind all this?
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The matter of the mail bomb that had destroyed half of my apartment the following year did cause me to wonder whether the statistical nature of reality might not be under a strain in my vicinity at that season.
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In plain english that means?
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Namus is the best!
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He's a'ight.
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How can someone worship a nember who have made only ONE post???
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How can someone worship a flying spaghetti monster?
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Why did the chicken cross the road?
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There are many many answers to that, pal This are the people I asked:
teacher:
to get to the other side

PLATO:
because of a higher purpose

ARISTOTELES:
It is the nature of chickens to cross roads.

KARL MARX:
This was historically inevitable

SADDAM HUSSEIN:
This was an unheard act of rebellion, so I HAD to use the nerve gas.

MARTIN LUTHER KING:
I had a dream. I dreamed that every chicken could cross the road unquestioned.

MOZES:
And God descended from heaven and said to the chicken: “Thou shalt crosseth streets.” And so did the chicken cross the street en there was much cheering and great joy. And God saw that it was good.

WILLY CLAES:
The chicken did not cross the street, I repeat, the chicken did not cross the street.

FILIP DEWINTER:
No, we did not send the chicken back. It went back on it’s own.

BILL GATES:
I’ve just finished Chicken Office 2000 who will not only cross streets, but will cackle, lay eggs and check your accounting.

DARWIN:
Throughout history, chickens have been selected so that they are genetically predestined to cross roads.

EINSTEIN
Whether the chicken crossed the road or the road was moving under the chicken, depends on your frame of reference.

BUDDHA:
The fact that you’re even asking this question, means that something is lacking in your chicken nature.

ERNEST HEMINGWAY:
To die alone, in the rain.

JEAN-LUC DEHAENE:
Let the beast go

FRANK VANDENBROUCKE: BURN THAT CHICKEN!

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All things are made up of stuff.
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you wouldn't say
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All things are made up of stuff.
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I'll answer that with this:
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I love you too.
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This global warming definitely ain't good for the beer.
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Yes, we all heard that a million times.
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Hey that's not silly, I based my entire life upon that philosophy!
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Well, tough luck, I hope you can evolve in your philosophy as philosophy was meant to be.
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Ok it's silly.
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See? i was right
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Compairing apples to oranges is bananas.
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That's the smartest thing I heard all morning.
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No sideways floors will stop the lord of hellfire.
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Yeah, well, you suck! What if stanley Kubrick made a movie called "clockwork apple? That would've sucked as much as yo momma!
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I mean, come on, everybody knows that Oranges >>>>>>>>>>>> Apples.
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Respect, brotha.
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Dude, it is not about THAT post, it's about how people find SOMETHING in a post and then start to make FUN out of it.
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I'm still dead sirious...
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It's not because he made one post doh.
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Do you speaka da english?
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I vote for QP!
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For me? thanks
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i don't play with cheats, but i know all.
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First of all, you grammar sucks and second of all:
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Yeah riiight.
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Now I hope you understand why oranges are way better than apples.
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