There seems to be emotions running over this new build in the cavern. People are practically screaming about the
POSSIBLE loss of the combo jumps and skydiving abilities.

1. and I will capitalize this THESE COMBO JUMPS AND SKY DIVING ABILITIES AND COLLISION WALL CLIMBS WERE NEVER INTENDED TO BE PART OF THE OFFICIAL GAME PLAY.

The new build was intended to improve game performance,and fix other issues from what I gather. This may affect the know game GLITCHES(combo jumps and climbing). Some have expressed leaving Moula because their Sky Diver friends have left because of losing some of their marker games and abilities already, or ceasing their donations.
These marker games and abilities of climbing are fun and challenging, I have enjoy--ed< them and have made a few myself . If that is all that kept these players (skydivers and others) in-cavern then they were going to leave any way,because lets face it,the game does have an end point.
It is up to us the players to create new and fun events/games/venues to do. We have a lot of things available now such as DMR,random DJ,language lessons,storytelling,age tours, glyph tours and more. So loosing (if it happens) Precious(LOTR) will not be the demise of our game world, unless we choose it to be
Those that have left for Second Life, There and other places aren't going to come back for what ever reason, oh ..well, now if they appear in-cavern I will greet them, treat them as my friends as I have always done.
Well to get off my soap box, loosing the combo's and zips isn't the worst thing to happen so I ask my fellow explorers to chill and let us see what works for us.

It's really annoying when people complain that their exploit-based metagame is broken by truly excellent updates that bring more interesting things, like native Mac and Linux clients ever so slightly closer.

Just the thoughts of the guy who has been told he knows nothing and is quite stupid.

There seems to be emotions running over this new build in the cavern. People are practically screaming about the POSSIBLE loss of the combo jumps and skydiving abilities.

1. and I will capitalize this THESE COMBO JUMPS AND SKY DIVING ABILITIES AND COLLISION WALL CLIMBS WERE NEVER INTENDED TO BE PART OF THE OFFICIAL GAME PLAY.

The new build was intended to improve game performance,and fix other issues from what I gather. This may affect the know game GLITCHES(combo jumps and climbing). Some have expressed leaving Moula because their Sky Diver friends have left because of losing some of their marker games and abilities already, or ceasing their donations. These marker games and abilities of climbing are fun and challenging, I have enjoy--ed< them and have made a few myself . If that is all that kept these players (skydivers and others) in-cavern then they were going to leave any way,because lets face it,the game does have an end point. It is up to us the players to create new and fun events/games/venues to do. We have a lot of things available now such as DMR,random DJ,language lessons,storytelling,age tours, glyph tours and more. So loosing (if it happens) Precious(LOTR) will not be the demise of our game world, unless we choose it to be Those that have left for Second Life, There and other places aren't going to come back for what ever reason, oh ..well, now if they appear in-cavern I will greet them, treat them as my friends as I have always done. Well to get off my soap box, loosing the combo's and zips isn't the worst thing to happen so I ask my fellow explorers to chill and let us see what works for us.

I don't know what is the fuzz you are talking about because for me it's business as usual...

Today, I'm doing combo jumping, zip launching, & double jumps, it will be just the same in a month from now. I've worked extra hours these past weeks & I have still plenty to do to bring something to the skydiving & afficionados community. I'm still donating money & with the way the server is NOW really stable enabling myself to work these extra hours efficiently, I may...when my bank account will stack up a little...money vanished suddenly from it LOL like chocolate in my house donate new money for the server stability.

If someone is panicking, tell them to contact me, I'll try to explain the situation. Yes there will be a different client to use, except that's not a biggie... I'm not green with purple dot because I'm using a different client than everybody else, no one can tell anyway (...that i'm using a different client to make a precision LOL)

And let's face it: give me one good reason to develop a quest on the normal client which will change in a near future and then re-change and then re-re-change...etc. and with all the kneeling & breaking... no way! For climbing/skydiving/glitching, the best is the skydiving client and it's a simple easy affordable solution that changes absolutely nothing except giving us extra ability to do some tricks.

I can understand the point of view of some people, but those can they understand that this game needs players?
Current players form communities, such as Skydivers for example.
If the king (the game) doesn't respect his kingdom (the players), how can the king hopes that his kingdom respects him?

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I dislike the argument that Uru should be left as it is in order to retain the current crop of players because it completely dismisses an entire segment of the community: people who have been here for 5-10 years, stayed with it and remained active in the community even when Uru wasn't online, and have spent countless hours working to fix things so that the game would work the way it was intended to by Cyan.

You may not see these people in the cavern on a regular basis, but that doesn't make their vision for Uru any less valuable than yours. They're not in MOULa because they're elsewhere, working on fixes, developing new content, and making other contributions to the community.

What do you tell them? Thanks, but no thanks? We don't want the fruits of your hard labor? We don't care about seeing Cyan's vision?

I dislike the argument that Uru should be left as it is in order to retain the current crop of players because it completely dismisses an entire segment of the community: people who have been here for 5-10 years, stayed with it and remained active in the community even when Uru wasn't online, and have spent countless hours working to fix things so that the game would work the way it was intended to by Cyan.

You may not see these people in the cavern on a regular basis, but that doesn't make their vision for Uru any less valuable than yours. They're not in MOULa because they're elsewhere, working on fixes, developing new content, and making other contributions to the community.

What do you tell them? Thanks, but no thanks? We don't want the fruits of your hard labor? We don't care about seeing Cyan's vision?

Well said. :) Uru needs to be flexible in order to survive, like branches of a tree spreading out.

Well, Ly has been generously giving of his time to allow people the choice of using vinyl or utilize the modern tech available to us...

...However, we seriously need improvements, updates/upgrades, and also bits of new content as stepping stone towards the future...

...In other places, there are such discussions going on. As such a "minor" new content idea, what abotu soem sort of "welcome" letter on the Relto bookshelf...or in on the classroom desk?

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Who are you guys arguing with. I get that us skydivers are unwelcome here and our opinions don't count.
I have not seen a single post arguing with any of the changes this time. I even read a post from the most outspoken of all of us. Requesting any skydiver to contact her in an attempt to stop this argument before it starts. But nobody seems to care. So yea I get it. I'm an **** for beaing a skydiver. The hundreds of hours I spent building new adventures here count for nothing. The only comment I have made about these updates was directly to the writers. Told them I'm on full support of what thay do. Only se it as an improvement. And would attempt to rebuild something when the time is right.
But o well. My opinions are wrong even before I state them. How fun. Ill go away now bye.