I think there is more to Oak Island than even to those who are there now working it. From the items I have read about people finding there and what it shown on the TV show I have come to the conclusion that there is MORE THAN ONE "treasure" hidden there. The object(s) that they are seeking in the "money pit" I feel are different from the supposed "pirate" treasure. From the coins that have been found to the inscriptions on the missing stone found at the 90" level.

Something is not adding up,, to me anyway. Like I said, I feel there is more than one hidden "treasure" there. You know the feeling,,, a "gut" feeling that there is more to the story.

Hey Robot what do you think of a member of the Grand Lodge stating that he thinks the treasure is of Templar origin? That kind of undermines your theory doesn't it?

Not at "All"

As long as he is not inferring that the 14th Century "Templars" buried it!

My "Theory" has the 18th Century Freemasons burying all the "Treasures" entrusted to them over Centuries: Shakespeare's manuscripts, Francis Bacon's written knowledge, Historical documents, Knights Templar treasures, and the gold, silver, and jewels from the sacking of Havana.

As long as he is not inferring that the 14th Century "Templars" buried it!

My "Theory" has the 18th Century Freemasons burying all the "Treasures" entrusted to them over Centuries: Shakespeare's manuscripts, Francis Bacon's written knowledge, Historical documents, Knights Templar treasures, and the gold, silver, and jewels from the sacking of Havana.

My "Theory" it was slowly plundered from the club houses by members &
sold off or destroyed as the
plunderers themselves died & their families got rid of it.
and in some cases fires destroyed things.
and small Museums got some which they threw in Boxes till they Rotted etc.
from floods & time too

As long as he is not inferring that the 14th Century "Templars" buried it!

My "Theory" has the 18th Century Freemasons burying all the "Treasures" entrusted to them over Centuries: Shakespeare's manuscripts, Francis Bacon's written knowledge, Historical documents, Knights Templar treasures, and the gold, silver, and jewels from the sacking of Havana.

Actually brother Roy of the Grand Masonic Lodge's exact words were "I personally feel that the money pit is probably Knights Templar.". He looks pretty old too so he is probably fairly high ranking.

As long as he is not inferring that the 14th Century "Templars" buried it!

Actually the 14th century Templars did bury it, but not on Oak Island. They buried it at Charing Cross (new Ross) about 20 miles from Oak Island. Scott Wolter didn't find it because it was moved in the middle of the 15th century across Nova Scotia to a site near Annapolis Basin.

“Clairvoyance” and the “Fanny Young Shaft”

"The Fanny Young Pit: The 1890’s prospectus of the Oak Island Treasure Co (6), which was the syndicate digging for the treasure in the late 1890’s and early 1900’s, refers to the Fanny Young Pit dug close to the Money Pit in about 1850 in these words:
“....Mr Isaac Blair....states: ‘you asked me to tell you what I saw when the old Pit (or what is called the treasure pit) on Oak Island caved in, while the men were tunnelling through from what was then called the ‘Fanny Young Pit’ (so called from a clairvoyant who had been consulted on the subject). That was in 1850 and the fact of the pit being named for her would indicate that it was dug at that time. The probability is that it was, and afterwards deepened in 1861. To the believers in clairvoyants and spiritualism many interesting things as told by Miss Young and others of the same faith can be related and when they struck the old pit they said the earth there had been dug over’.”
Mormon Church founder Joseph Smith (1805-1844) practised treasure digging when a young man. His 34th and last wife was Fanny Young (1787-1859) a sister of later Mormon Church leader Brigham Young (57). We do not at the present time have any direct evidence that the Fanny Young associated with Oak Island was the same person as Joseph Smith’s 34th wife, but if they were different women, then it is a most remarkable and singular coincidence that the 34th wife of a known treasure digger and prophet had exactly the same name as a “clairvoyant” who was consulted on digging for the Oak Island treasure. The coincidence is heightened when we note that Joseph Smith’s 34th wife was still living when the Fanny Young Pit on Oak Island was dug about 1850, when Joseph Smith’s 34th wife was once again a widow (Joseph Smith having been her third and final husband) and it is therefore plausible she would have reverted to her maiden name of Fanny Young at that time. If the Fanny Young Pit on Oak Island was named after Joseph Smith’s 34th wife, then the links of Oak Island to the widow of a known treasure digger does nothing to enhance the credibility of the Oak Island Legend.
We know from the historical record that Brigham Young's sister was named Fanny, and that she was also the 34th "celestial" wife of the younger Joseph Smith. The available biographical information suggests she was not on Oak Island in 1850, but the writer quoted above says only that he was on the island in that year. He does not state the clairvoyant was consulted during that period, so it is possible the site of the "Fanny Young Pit" was selected years earlier. The prospectus may or may not refer to Smith's wife, but a relationship between those involved in early activity on the island and the early Mormon community seems to be supported by other genealogical evidence.

It is also worthy of note that Joseph Smith was distantly related by marriage to Antony Vaughn who was reputedly one of the Money Pit’s three initial excavators in the late 1700’s (58).
Private communication to the writer from British researcher John Bartram. The prophet Joseph Smith (1805-1844) was a second cousin once removed to Sophia Mack (1822-1901) who in turn was sister-in-law to Joseph Crandall who was the great grandnephew of pit excavator Antony Vaughn (1751-1835). To put this in another way, the prophet Joseph Smith was the second cousin-in-law (once removed) of Joseph Crandall, a great grandnephew of Antony Vaughn who was one of the three initial excavators of the Money Pit."
THE OAK ISLAND LEGEND: THE MASONIC ANGLE
By Dennis J King
May 12, 2010

Source? I'm not disagreeing with this as it sounds perfectly reasonable. I'm just curious.

Of course, that brings us to auxology, which is a fascinating topic in its own right and one that I've done a bit of reading about. For a very long time, everyone was quite sure that genetics played the dominant role in human height. As the 3rd World became the 2nd World and the 2nd World became the first, we saw that diet played a far "larger" (har har) role than had been previously thought. This shouldn't have come as a surprise, though; continental nobles were not uncommonly quite a bit taller than the masses, although they were genetically similar. What was different was their diet and standard of living. The industrialization of South Korea made things painfully clear more recently. The North and South Koreans are genetically the same, but South Koreans are several inches taller on average. The difference is the diet.

I ate enough calories when I was growing up, so I grew up tall. My brother and father (both genetically very similar to me) are significantly shorter. The difference is that they both wrestled in high school, while I ran cross country. I ate as much as I wanted. They starved themselves to cut weight. Think about how many people you know that wrestled in high school, and how few of them are tall. It really is the diet. We're not genetically any different from folks back then, not to any meaningful degree. As a case in point, King Henry VIII was even taller than I am, and that was five centuries ago. He reportedly ate very well.

Slightly off-topic, but I read an article not too long ago about the new challenges facing the PLA in China. One of the pressing issues is that the conscripts are too damned tall to use Soviet equipment! The soldiers are simply too big to fit into those tiny little Russian tanks. The Chinese view (and one that I share) is that China's improved economy has elevated many lower class families into the middle class, and their children are eating suitably better and are becoming too tall as a result of it. Everything from the vehicles to the rifles may have to be rescaled to the new Chinese soldier. First World problems, right?

So was a man of my size common a few hundred years ago? Of course not. But it was certainly not unheard of, particularly among the wealthy, and some men of history were quite a bit larger than I am. Such a man would not have been a medical mystery. He merely would have been uncommonly tall, and probably from a wealthy family.

This is assuming, of course, that the shoe in question was worn by someone with feet that were proportionately sized with regard to the rest of their body, and that can be a big assumption. I work with a guy that has ape arms. He's 5'10" or so and has a reach of 86" or something stupid like that. (In comparison, I have an unusually long reach of 84" and I'm a few inches taller than he is.) When he buys long sleeve shirts, he has to buy them several sizes too large and then have the sleeves hemmed, as when he wears shirts that are his size the sleeves barely come past his elbows.

Why did those shoes supposedly wind up in the ground? Were they lost or left? What size was the other shoe? Was the big shoe from a big guy, or from a regular guy with big feet? It's dangerous to assume too much from small things.

Could UFO’s also be Treasure Hunting for Golden Treasures or the Ark of the Covenant?

Witnesses “spotted something unusual above and in front of their car. A large object flashing four sequential lights, amber coloured descended at a modest rate of speed at an angle of approximately forty five-degrees. From their vantage point it looked like the object was going to go down into the waters of the Harbour.”
“Air Desk in Ottawa, that sector of the Royal Canadian Air Force responsible for the gathering and investigation of UFO reports, tagged the sighting as the crash of a UFO and in other reports refer to it as a "dark object". The RCMP in their reports refers to the craft as a UFO. They had no choice for all other explanations for the event did not fit the scenario.”
“One thing is for certain. This event was probably the most documented case of a UFO crash in the history of UFO crashes.”
Officials stated that “we are certain that what happened at Shag Harbour was only the tip of the iceberg and the beginning of a seven day adventure involving two objects, the navy and air forces of two countries and NORAD.”

Was "Oak Island" built because of a "Relationship Gone Bad"?

The 4th Earl Ferrers, descendant of an ancient and noble family, was the eldest son of Hon. Laurence Ferrers, himself a younger son of the Robert Shirley, 1st Earl Ferrers-a descendant of Robert Devereux, 2nd Earl of Essex

It was said that there was insanity in his family, and from an early age his behavior seems to have been eccentric, and his temper violent, though he was quite capable of managing his business affairs. Significantly, in 1758, his wife obtained a separation from him for cruelty, which would have been extremely rare for the time. She was said to be extremely pretty and clearly did not appreciate her husband's drinking, womanizing and the fact that he had a mistress and children.

The old family steward was murdered, it would seem, because he may have given evidence on Mary's behalf and was afterwards taxed with collecting rents due to her.

On 5 May 1760, dressed in a light-colored suit embroidered with silver (the outfit he had worn at his wedding), he was taken in his own carriage from the Tower of London to Tyburn and there hanged by Thomas Turlis.

There are several illustrations of the hanging. It has been said that as a concession to his order the rope used was of silk.

Two weeks after the execution of his brother, Laurence Shirley, 4th Earl Ferrers in 1760, Washington Shirley took his seat in the House of Lords (as the new Earl Ferrers).

Ferrers was appointed a deputy lieutenant of Staffordshire on 28 August 1761.

In 1763, George III granted him the family estates, previously forfeit by his brother as a felon (much to the surprise of Casanova, then visiting London) and he began to transform the family seat of Staunton Harold in Leicestershire.

He was later promoted as a Rear Admiral in 1771 and Vice-Admiral in 1775.

In 1762 "Washington Shirley" had become the "Grand Master of the Freemasons of London" and his "Vendetta" against "King George III" was to be the instigation of the transfer of all the "Freemason’s Treasures" to the “New world”.

Actually the 14th century Templars did bury it, but not on Oak Island. They buried it at Charing Cross (new Ross) about 20 miles from Oak Island. Scott Wolter didn't find it because it was moved in the middle of the 15th century across Nova Scotia to a site near Annapolis Basin.

I was wondering where you had figured out that it had been moved to a location near the basin?

But he who knows forms, is able to grasp the unity of nature beneath the surface of materials which are very unlike. Thus is he able to identify and bring about things that have never been done before, things of the kind which neither the vicissitudes of nature, nor hard experimenting, nor pure accident could ever have actualized, nor even human thought dreamed of. And thus from the discovery of the forms flows true speculation and unrestricted operation.