I've been mopping up in a new atheist forum I've stumbled onto. It was being haunted by a few proseltysing fundies and no one was telling them where to go. I have peppered it with a few digs and managed to make some ground, but it could use a few more experienced voices. I invite you to take a look. www.bellaonline.com. go to "forum", "religion and spiritualiy", "atheist". See if you can zero in on a poster called "god_loves_you". A real hard case. Thanks