I've come to believe there is this small clique of people who want to see all noted good guys in wow be killed, not because they are badly written (no more then any other character), but simply because such people can't identify with good guy characters and so want them to die.

He's not a leader. At least not yet. He has shown that he will protect his people (destroying the bell) but he still sees the Horde as good. It's a nice change from old Varian and new Jaina. Basically he's the Alliance's new Thrall.

He's not a leader. At least not yet. He has shown that he will protect his people (destroying the bell) but he still sees the Horde as good. It's a nice change from old Varian and new Jaina. Basically he's the Alliance's new Thrall.

Context matters. They wouldn't have been able to get the bell in a frontal attack, so they had to go all sneaky. I'm sure Garrosh would have been perfectly happy to just burn Teldrassil down if he could.
Besides, the Sunreavers didn't get kicked out for that alone.

Also, they weren't just mad that Anduin got injured. That was just the tip of the iceberg. Garrosh did enough other things to ensure that they want to kill him anyway.

You sure have only looking at part of the story down.

The context being that Jaina/Varian/Anduin being painted as "the good guys" and thus being justified in their actions and Garrosh being painted as "the bad guy" and thus indefensible.

I expected to finish the Dominance Offensive with the Alliance holding the clear moral highground, but I found myself surprised that it's delightfully messy. Which it should be.

Your comments are duly noted and ignored.
I punch a hobo every time someone says 'it's not a rotation it's a priority list lol'.

I've come to believe there is this small clique of people who want to see all noted good guys in wow be killed, not because they are badly written (no more then any other character), but simply because such people can't identify with good guy characters and so want them to die.

Originally Posted by Lighto73

I actually really enjoy Anduin, he's one of the few GOOD guys in the story. Most are either evil, or anti-heroes. He's one of the few with no shades of grey on the good guy side.

He's an infant! He's never been in a lose-lose scenario, or forced to make a choice with every option being wrong. Such situations define well-written characters, and one thing I hate about the "good guys" is that they magically avoid such situations all the time, or choose "the right but impossible way" and the miracle happens 100% of times because they believe in themselves and for other utter bulllshit reasons. In all situations that matter, good guys always win with no effort, no sacrifice, just because they are destined by author's dogma to win.

The death of Lothar mattered, because the good guy failed. Arthas purging Stratholme mattered, because it was a lose-lose scenario. Sylvanas using val'kyr to raise dead matters, because there's always an angle from which both raising and not raising dead is absolutely wrong. Anduin magically walking away from Garrosh unscathed doesn't matter because it's about good guy doing good things without a price or consequences, in spite of being obviously damaged.

Originally Posted by Kangodo

You mean... Forsaken Anduin?
Oh Holy Light, that would be awesome!

I suggested they did it to Liam Greymane.

"A NAME IS A CLOAK OF LETTERS THROWN UPON A MAN. IT MEANS NOTHING." - Transcendent One, Planescape: Torment.