I was sucked into the new world, the new things to do, the new 'theme' but it wore off incredibly fast. I never felt obligated to work throught the story beyond the first island.

I think the main reason it failed was due to the need to 'update' it. I felt for the series to continue the main focus should have been on the development of missions and story line.

In this, it seems as if that was the last thing on their minds. The missions were crap, infact I never got off the first island. What there was of the story was too '94 IMO. The dialoge was incredibly bad. It was really hard to take serious.

The whole CJ thing ''Im sorry I punked out on you and momz'' thing was like cancer. It annoyed the fuck outta me. That was the whole plot, the main catch phrase... t'was everything.

The innovations were brilliant. They kept me playing the game for a year.

The only way I'd buy the next installment is if they went back to an east coast city with wops.

That's just what grand theft auto is and it was a terrible mistake IMO to buy into this 'urban' fad. It's not because im white and can't identify with it. If they did the rumoured London one, I'd probably not like that either. I'd probably just feel insulted because despite the company being Brits, they'd have to make it for yall and it'd be as crap as the original GTA London.

I hate this whole quest to go 'European' or 'Urban' to keep things fresh. Hollywood buggered it up no end.

Just up the ante with the stories and be fucking creative. Collecting money is the collecting money. No matter what coast you do it on and how bad the dialoge has degraded.

I was near enough alone last time I made this thread, but surely not now.

Well this is more less a duplicate of a recent thread, but im bored, so you get the 2 cents anyway.

Ill just respond to your points with my opinion.

I was sucked into the new world, the new things to do, the new 'theme' but it wore off incredibly fast. I never felt obligated to work throught the story beyond the first island.

The story mode is complete crap, and all the new things to do are crap. I used to do the weight training to get CJ buff, but then I realize, "Hey, this is crap", and I just stopped playing it altogether. Yeah the world was big, but you gotta get through the horrid story mode to access it. Honestly to this date Ive never played in the Las Vegas city without sneaking over and getting 5 stars.

I think the main reason it failed was due to the need to 'update' it. I felt for the series to continue the main focus should have been on the development of missions and story line.

They need to update the world, instead of making it bigger, it was big enough, they need to make it interactive. NOTHING in the world outside cars is interactive AT ALL. So yeah, your in a big enviroment, but 50 percent of the map is buildings you cant enter, and look like shit at that. They need to tighten up the controls, and make it more like hitman too, where your TRULY free. Yeah, the missions are storyline was more of the same too, and some of the missions are rediculously hard when you gotta fight 50 gangstas with shitty controls and limited ammo.

In this, it seems as if that was the last thing on their minds. The missions were crap, infact I never got off the first island. What there was of the story was too '94 IMO. The dialoge was incredibly bad. It was really hard to take serious.

Agreed, and I never got off the first island either, furtherst I got was into the country side. Which I might add, was also crap. I dont care who they paid to do the voice overs, it was all horribly cheesy corny bullshit.

The whole CJ thing ''Im sorry I punked out on you and momz'' thing was like cancer. It annoyed the fuck outta me. That was the whole plot, the main catch phrase... t'was everything.

The innovations were brilliant. They kept me playing the game for a year.

Not me, I thought there was too much to do, and I felt obligated to having to do it, just because its part of the game. I aint tryna play the sims, I dont need to feed CJ or take him for exercise and shit.

The only way I'd buy the next installment is if they went back to an east coast city with wops.

I prolly wont buy it if its not 100 percent accessable enviroment, and the game is seriously reworked. Ive had enough of that boredom.

That's just what grand theft auto is and it was a terrible mistake IMO to buy into this 'urban' fad. It's not because im white and can't identify with it. If they did the rumoured London one, I'd probably not like that either. I'd probably just feel insulted because despite the company being Brits, they'd have to make it for yall and it'd be as crap as the original GTA London.

I hate this whole quest to go 'European' or 'Urban' to keep things fresh. Hollywood buggered it up no end.

Just up the ante with the stories and be fucking creative. Collecting money is the collecting money. No matter what coast you do it on and how bad the dialoge has degraded.

I was near enough alone last time I made this thread, but surely not now.

The other things I feel it needs, is the ability to play as the law, but not on some gay, lets shoot as many gangstas as we can, but to do real enforcement work.
BE MORE LIKE HITMAN. That game is true freedom.
Also needs work on the AI (hitman too). In real life, cops do not shoot people for stealing cars, OR punching citizens. Only real way to get shot up by cops is to shoot at them first. Its too hard trying to evade cops when 30 of them are shooting at you, cause you robbed some old lady with brass knuckles. Not to mention horribly unrealistic.

i played it for about a month, beat the story mode and completed 100%.

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I highly doubt thats possible. You gotta complete all the stunt jumps and everything else...and to do so in a month, just seems impossible. Ive never got 100 percent in any of the GTA games, while I did at least beat 3 and Vice City.

1 City with buildings you can enter, technically is a bigger map. Like you said, big deal, you added some fields, forrests and every city is filled with 5000 buildings you cant enter which take up half of the supposedly massive game anyway.
I think GTA would be awesome if crossed with more Hitman like controls and enviroments.

That shit was a gay waste of time to me. Since then every minute someone trying to steal your territory and you always fighting, and unless you got the cheats in, you cant keep up with the ammo demand for that shit. Now that I think of it, shits mad corny, running up on dudes making a gang LoLoL.

Its funny tho, the game is allowed to show killing of prostitutes, car jacking and all them other felonies, but then they try and shut rockstar down for a fucking hidden porn scene. Its ok to kill kids, but dont be hittin it doggy style...

why is it mad corny tho?
in all GTA's theres gangs, but now that you can run with your own to do territorial shit its corny? i dont get it

anyways, with a next gen console, and the time they are taking (not till late 07) they should have something that will blow our minds, if you ask me.. they have an opportunity to really upgrade the game from whats its been to something great

Yeah, but nothing differentiates them from a regular fight. Shooting fights witha boss are no different that shooting a prostitute. With such loose controls they suck even worse.

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Bosses are always several times tougher than regular people. If I can blast someone in the head for ten-odd seconds with an assault rifle and have him walk away, I consider him a boss. They have attack patterns, hordes of random goon reinforcements coming from different angles and powerful-ass weapons. Boss fights always felt like boss fights to me. There aren't a great many of them for such a large game, but they're there. I'll admit that Ryder wasn't boss calibre by far, but Big Smoke was without a doubt a real boss to me.

What would you change?

I enjoyed most of the gang business, but I'll fully agree that it doesn't tie into the game satisfactorily. Where are my damn props?

i dont understand how a company like rockstar can make Max payne- which has ILL ass controls and aiming...yet they can get it right in GTA...that makes NO sense...killing isnt even fun anymore...its the same shit...

and yeh they need to let u enter all these dam buildings...go in peoples homes without having to get a specific truck..u should REALLY be able to GO anywhere and DO anything...

Well the fact that they are calling it 4, should signify that the game is going to undergo alot of changes. In retrospect, it makes you realize that by naming the other ones San Andreas and Vice City, it was more of a rehash then a new game.

Well this is more less a duplicate of a recent thread, but im bored, so you get the 2 cents anyway.

Ill just respond to your points with my opinion.

I was sucked into the new world, the new things to do, the new 'theme' but it wore off incredibly fast. I never felt obligated to work throught the story beyond the first island.

The story mode is complete crap, and all the new things to do are crap. I used to do the weight training to get CJ buff, but then I realize, "Hey, this is crap", and I just stopped playing it altogether. Yeah the world was big, but you gotta get through the horrid story mode to access it. Honestly to this date Ive never played in the Las Vegas city without sneaking over and getting 5 stars.

I think the main reason it failed was due to the need to 'update' it. I felt for the series to continue the main focus should have been on the development of missions and story line.

They need to update the world, instead of making it bigger, it was big enough, they need to make it interactive. NOTHING in the world outside cars is interactive AT ALL. So yeah, your in a big enviroment, but 50 percent of the map is buildings you cant enter, and look like shit at that. They need to tighten up the controls, and make it more like hitman too, where your TRULY free. Yeah, the missions are storyline was more of the same too, and some of the missions are rediculously hard when you gotta fight 50 gangstas with shitty controls and limited ammo.

In this, it seems as if that was the last thing on their minds. The missions were crap, infact I never got off the first island. What there was of the story was too '94 IMO. The dialoge was incredibly bad. It was really hard to take serious.

Agreed, and I never got off the first island either, furtherst I got was into the country side. Which I might add, was also crap. I dont care who they paid to do the voice overs, it was all horribly cheesy corny bullshit.

The whole CJ thing ''Im sorry I punked out on you and momz'' thing was like cancer. It annoyed the fuck outta me. That was the whole plot, the main catch phrase... t'was everything.

The innovations were brilliant. They kept me playing the game for a year.

Not me, I thought there was too much to do, and I felt obligated to having to do it, just because its part of the game. I aint tryna play the sims, I dont need to feed CJ or take him for exercise and shit.

The only way I'd buy the next installment is if they went back to an east coast city with wops.

I prolly wont buy it if its not 100 percent accessable enviroment, and the game is seriously reworked. Ive had enough of that boredom.

That's just what grand theft auto is and it was a terrible mistake IMO to buy into this 'urban' fad. It's not because im white and can't identify with it. If they did the rumoured London one, I'd probably not like that either. I'd probably just feel insulted because despite the company being Brits, they'd have to make it for yall and it'd be as crap as the original GTA London.

I hate this whole quest to go 'European' or 'Urban' to keep things fresh. Hollywood buggered it up no end.

Just up the ante with the stories and be fucking creative. Collecting money is the collecting money. No matter what coast you do it on and how bad the dialoge has degraded.

I was near enough alone last time I made this thread, but surely not now.

The other things I feel it needs, is the ability to play as the law, but not on some gay, lets shoot as many gangstas as we can, but to do real enforcement work.
BE MORE LIKE HITMAN. That game is true freedom.
Also needs work on the AI (hitman too). In real life, cops do not shoot people for stealing cars, OR punching citizens. Only real way to get shot up by cops is to shoot at them first. Its too hard trying to evade cops when 30 of them are shooting at you, cause you robbed some old lady with brass knuckles. Not to mention horribly unrealistic.

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yea wit the cops shootin u and shit isnt right i think there should other things enforced to make it more real, i think it'd be fun if they made where u go over a certain mileage and the cops see u then they chase u. there should also be more things goin on cops should be chasin people on the streets to show the game isnt revolved around u

Its funny tho, the game is allowed to show killing of prostitutes, car jacking and all them other felonies, but then they try and shut rockstar down for a fucking hidden porn scene. Its ok to kill kids, but dont be hittin it doggy style...

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um its not like that, sex in Rated R movies isnt like hard core porn, if they are fucking in R rated movies its noting like the sex in gta sa(well the gta sa sex was just funny and not sexural)

but i do agree its just sex and the game was M

and yeh they need to let u enter all these dam buildings...go in peoples homes without having to get a specific truck..u should REALLY be able to GO anywhere and DO anything...

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well thats just pointless for that.
how many cars can be on the road at one time( i never seened 15 cars with in the vistion of CJ.
and i get lag on my xbox, if all the buildings are open the loading time would be double.
i got it for PC and my PC was alot better looking and can have more the consoles would have died from the # of people in the game. they say saints row is alot beter with that.

the map was alot bigger then VC but the size wasnt the bad thing the bad think is that you had to do races, and all that thats why im happy that saints row makes it opptional. and all you do on GTA games, is do crimes witch is fun but come on need more other things to do maybe play basketball with someone for money, and other things like that

we aint talkin bout the xbox and ps2...the 360 and ps3 should be able to handle that kind of game homie...plus its not like it wud be cosntantly streaming the data for every store and building in the game...just when u walk in it it'll have a slight background load and boom...u good to go...plus the city can be smaller that way....