June 30, 2013

That's scores of people shining their lasers up at a military helicopter. Or, as NBC News might say, "two people."

You see that happen in a lot of videos of the crowd, laser light flashing the lens. But this is a pretty wild example of it.

There are some interesting unconfirmed claims. In Muqattem, Egypt, a Twitterer named @sandmonkey I'm told is generally reliable says that gunmen inside a Muslim Brotherhood HQ are shooting at the crowd outside:

Situation in muqattam is hairy. 4 shot so far. Live ammunition from inside the MB HQ. This won't end well.

I've seen some more claims that the MB HQ in Cairo is burning (though we heard similar things on Friday, and it just turned out to be bonfires outside the HQ). I also saw a general claim that as night has fallen on Egypt, "all hell is breaking out."

An odd thing about false information is that it can wind up making itself true -- false reports of shootings can lead to actual shootings, false reports of "all hell breaking out" can lead to riots.

So, a nervous night over there.

The BBC has estimated that this is the largest political protest... in world history. Which seems possible. Have 17 million ever protested a government before?

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I'm picturing this same scenario if we ever get the balls to stand up to this criminal administration.

That being said, I don't see our military turning on the American people.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 02:19 PM (lVPtV)

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I agree with Sandmonkey - this will not end well for them - or for us. As Orwell said, "so much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot."
They had no clue just how hot this was going to be.
KBO

Posted by: Whiskey_Joe at June 30, 2013 02:19 PM (W/Yy+)

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I'm glad to see that Sandmonkey is still going strong. Wasn't there a time there during the Tahrir Square protests when he went silent?

This is the generation of perpetual-pissed-off Muslims that the Muslim Brotherhood and their kind have created.

Mohammed Al-Shelley's Frankenstiens, the current generation of Muslims -- angry at the world, constantly lashing at out at the nearest scapegoat.

As you sow, so shall you reap...

muthafuckas.

-- Book of Soothsayer, Chapter 1.

Posted by: soothie at June 30, 2013 02:21 PM (DlaLh)

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At least tomorrow when the MSM here lie about "more than a million people at Toronto's Pride Parade" I'll be able to link to a photo and reply, "No, this is more that a million people in the streets."

"In an interview with The Guardian published Sunday, Mr. Morsi acknowledged for the first time that he was not told ahead of time about a statement issued last week by the defense minister, General Sisi, in which he urged the president and his opponents to come together before SundayÂ’s protests and said the military would Â“intervene to keep Egypt from sliding into a dark tunnel of conflict, internal fighting, criminality, accusations of treason, sectarian discord and the collapse of state institutions.Â”

Many in the opposition saw the statement as a sign of distance between the generals and the president, or as an indication that if SundayÂ’s protests were large enough Â— or perhaps violent enough Â— the military would take over once again. Cheers rose from the crowd when military helicopters circled Tahrir Square on Sunday. "

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The previous protest they could claim to give Obama credit for it. Since this is now a protest over the results of that previous protest they can't give him credit. Well at least not yet. They need a few days to craft what they think is a credible reason. So they hope to ignore it until then. Just like turkey.

Posted by: Buzzion at June 30, 2013 02:23 PM (ExSBo)

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The Truth does not fit the media narrative so it must be suppressed.

Good luck trying to suppress 17 million people who feel like they are in a corner with nothing to lose because the Morsi MB government has driven them there with inept and intolerant actions.

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'Have 17 million ever protested a government before? So it's strange to me the media gave the Tahrir Square protests such urgent, breathless play last time, when Obama was thinking about giving a speech, and seem to care so little about the biggest protest in history, when Obama isn't thinking about giving a speech.'

Lolz. You shouldn't be surprised by how little the MSM has covered the protests. You should be stunned that it covered them at all. After all, it wasn't too long ago that the MSM was asking questions like these, which were asked by Nick Robinson of CNN:

'What do you have to say to President Obama?'

'Do you want to say thank you to President Obama?'

'Wouldn't you agree that, without President Obama's Cairo speech in 2009, the fall of Mubarak would never have happened?

'Don't you owe President Obama a depth of gratitude?'

The protestors looked at him like he was nuts and said 'President Obama didn't have anything to do with this. This has happened because of the Egyptian people.'

So, because the MSM is so far up Obama's ass and continuously claimed that the Egyptian Spring was the result of his efforts, I'm surprised that they would air anything considering it makes both them and Obama look like complete and utter incompetent fools.

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Apparently, somebody read from the book of "Amun-Ra" ... I hate it when somebody reads from the book of Amun-Ra.
Except for Anck Su Namun ... dagger fighting Rachel Weisz. ... that part's okay.
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As for the demonstrations and riots ... somebody ... somewhere ... is going to get the Jews labeled as the cause. I'm hoping it isn't Ron Paul.
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Posted by: BumperStickerist at June 30, 2013 02:25 PM (19AvL)

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mfm, ha!
I am not sure what the second "m" is for but it certainly is not media, at least not in any way that relates to reporting as journalists.
so when do the talking heads get tired of mouthing everything their producers order them to?
on a similar note, how much is david gregory available for does he do parties? are the blowjobs included in the package or are they additional? does he bring his own cake or do I have to provide a cake?

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Legit question -- where do these people poop and pee? And get food and water? There's no human infrastructure that is meant for crowds that size to last for more than a few hours. Humans literally can't survive long cheek-to-jowl in a horde like ants.
Pics like this always remind how much I hate crowds

Posted by: Flatbush Joe at June 30, 2013 02:28 PM (ZPrif)

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I said it previously, if 17 million is accurate, that's equivalent to 63 million protesting here in the US.
Holy. Fuck.

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you know what would make this all better? obama flying in and giving a speech, having a beer with the protestors and morsi. maybe they could have a summit and obama could bring 17,000,002 beers?
hell obama is in africa and all of his security is in place, what is waiting for? it is the religion of peace and all, what is he worried over?

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 02:29 PM (Z9EHQ)

48the media gave the Tahrir Square protests such urgent, breathless play last time, when Obama was thinking about giving a speech, and seem to care so little about the biggest protest in history, when Obama isn't thinking about giving a speech.
Well, duh. History orbits around Obama, silly ewok. Now if only King Barack would deign to pen a few lines about how He Transformed Egypt, this protest would be instantly The Greatest Thing Ever.

By way of comparison, there were 300,000 to 400,000 at Woodstock and that defined a generation.

No. It didn't.

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2013 02:35 PM (wsMp4)

82Back in February 2009, I said we now have a professional full time rabble rouser as president.

That's all Obama has done -- agitated the rabble -- since 2008. He did it here, first, and then took his show on the road to Europe and the Middle East, ginning up the mobs to channel their self-dissatisfaction towards others. In his wake, rancor, discontent, and violence.

Posted by: soothie at June 30, 2013 02:35 PM (KeJAW)

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So I post to FB about the protests agains the Muslim Bro president that we backed and how doing nothing at this point would be far preferable to the constant clusterfuck of being wrong.
First comment is from a Ron Paul supporter "You sound just like your friend Ron Paul!"
My response, while not profane, probably didn't please him.

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The Egyptians probably watched that dude stand in front of a tank in Tiananmen Square, after which our brave Senators stood in line with Nancy Pelosi and Bill Clinton and gave China permanent most favored trade status, guaranteeing that our economy will tank and that China will bust our balls for a generation or two, and decided to play the same card.
Those who do not learn from history are destined to annoy the ever-living hell out of me.

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Barack Obama never thought that when he went to Africa to promote gay rights, he'd get this kind of turnout.

Heh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 02:36 PM (lVPtV)

87By way of comparison, there were 300,000 to 400,000 at Woodstock and that defined a generation.
No. It didn't.
Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2013 07:35 PM (wsMp4)
Just think of what could have been if Nixon had carpet bombed Woodstock instead of Cambodia...

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I also saw a general claim that as night has fallen on Egypt, "all hell is breaking out."
This is great news, let it burn, let it all burn into bitter ashes in the mouths of the faithful. Allahu Akbar! Burn baby burn.

Posted by: angel with a sword at June 30, 2013 02:36 PM (2y8mE)

92this crowd is only protesting America to the extent they equate us with captain peace prize

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in February 2009, I said we now have a professional full time rabble rouser as president.
That's all Obama has done -- agitated the rabble -- since 2008. He did it here, first, and then took his show on the road to Europe and the Middle East, ginning up the mobs to channel their self-dissatisfaction towards others. In his wake, rancor, discontent, and violence.
Posted by: soothie
ok but obama likes to get everyone all wee-weed up and do his bidding, not go all crazy and go after stuff they want and need.

Just think of what could have been if Nixon had carpet bombed Woodstock instead of Cambodia...

Melissa Etheridge wouldn't have a kid...

Posted by: garrett at June 30, 2013 02:37 PM (wsMp4)

9717 million is 20% of the population of Egypt. I'm tempted to call bullshit.
Apparently, 98% of the population lives on just 3% of the land, mostly up around Cairo. In other words, squalid progressive heaven.

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Totally O/T but a Barky moment in the sands of time: today, his jug-ears silhouetted against the sky in the prison that held Mandela. Kodak moments, y'all. Mooch at his side in PANTS which is (supposedly, have no idea but read it somewhere) disrespectful of culture, looking serious, thoughtful, counting minutes until she guzzles down some primo South African vino. The sands of time in the Reign of Terror which is our lives.

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All those lasers give me an idea.
How about a giant holographic of Barry's head appearing over the square? He crack that beaming smile as he tilts his head to look over the little people. Let it run for half an hour and see what happens.
I'm betting the protest just falls apart!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 30, 2013 02:43 PM (V1ZIU)

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Why can't we get this kind of crowd together to oust the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House?

Posted by: Nunyobidnez at June 30, 2013 02:44 PM (RZvso)

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obama is probably going to fly in and signe everyone up for food stamps and obamacare.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 02:44 PM (Z9EHQ)

119 112 We have reports of more than 30 cases of mob sexual assaults in #Tahrir tonight.Â”
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Good point. That's not just 20% of the population, it's 40% of the men out there on the streets.
Posted by: t-bird at June 30, 2013 07:43 PM (FcR7P)
There are no good guys. In this case, I'm fully on board with LIB.

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>Another depressing question -- what % of the operating budget of the Muslim Brotherhood now comes directly from the US federal govt?
well, we sent them some cool jet fighter planes
smartest foreign policy team ever

Posted by: Jones in CO at June 30, 2013 02:44 PM (8sCoq)

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>Why can't we get this kind of crowd together to oust the Muslim Brotherhood in the White House?
threadwinner!

Posted by: Jones in CO at June 30, 2013 02:45 PM (8sCoq)

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Fox just reported that Barky is now going to use public librarians (all 17,000 of them) to push Barkycare.

I think I know who two of our trolls are. They work in libraries in Kenosha, WI and Mount Prospect, IL.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 02:45 PM (lVPtV)

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http://tinyurl.com/l7xgadd
Here's the link to the group to get involved with the fight in Texas. You don't have to be 100%'pro life to join. You just have to agree with this particular piece of legislation. We're facing down OWS, ACLU, PP, NARAL, Ect. This is a concerted effort from moveon.org and #turntexasblue.

124When in the hell is King Barry going to fly in and calm the masses?

*prays and crosses fingers*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 07:37 PM (lVPtV)

Like all community organizer wanks, they never reap the consequences of their dumbfuckery.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2013 02:45 PM (i+j2T)

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17 million egyptians that are unable to read cursive as a swap for obama? let me think it over.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 02:46 PM (Z9EHQ)

126How about a giant holographic of Barry's head appearing over the square?
Or a giant grinning Obama balloon, like the Joker used in the first Batman movie. Instead of nerve gas it can dispense leaflets of Obama's Cairo speech.

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I believe that it would be better if other countries looked up to and admired the US. Obama sold people the bill of goods that is what he thought, too. But he is just as happy to see us climb down from world superpower status. That is what the people who voted for him wanted.
We really should not be surprised.

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Our son had to take a suspected Tolleeeebon into custody when he was in A-stan. He was so grossed out having to grab the guy's left hand to cuff him, he said he went through a small container of hand sanitizer.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 02:49 PM (lVPtV)

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If that mother fucker gave a bunch of America haters the most advanced helicopter on the planet, he needs to be tried for treason...tomorrow.

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Just so we're clear, this is what Obama's gift of new worldwide respect for America looks like. Smells like, too.

Smells like "fail." Just like Obama.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 02:51 PM (lVPtV)

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Ha. "Rantings of a Sandmonkey" used to be a real thing (maybe still is). I wonder if it's the same guy.
(And I'm glad the Egyptians are proving to be a lot less useless than the Turks.)
Later, all.
God bless. :-)

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I think we are in for a round of this in Libya, too. And Syria.
I think democratizing the Middle East is a good and noble cause.
Instapundit posted a piece where he said that Bush inexplicably abandoned it. Well, it wasn't inexplicable, people called him Hitler for it.
We should have done what all the lefties said we were going to do. Take out Assad in April 2003. Turned over the tyrants then. They would have had that whole Muslim Brotherhood crap out of their system by now.

Posted by: blaster at June 30, 2013 02:53 PM (c28BI)

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"Tonight, an ABC Special Report: Brushing your dog's teeth - how important is it?"

Posted by: En Raged at June 30, 2013 02:53 PM (E8uEF)

157When you disengage and lead from behind you get
thugs running the world. This is a wet fart left over from Obama,
Hillary, and the media.

Posted by: tony redenzo at June 30, 2013 07:50 PM (LwRkC)

Don't leave Reporting for Doody out of the mix. Rodham's four year international happy hour hasn't skipped a beat since that lantern-jawed cocksucker assumed the position of bending over for the world.

Posted by: Captain Hate at June 30, 2013 02:54 PM (i+j2T)

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I'm pretty sure many of the un-educated Egyptians just crap and pee in the alleys.
Which is probably what Barky's poorer relatives in Kenya do.
***
Still beats the hell out of Obama pissing on the Constitution.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 02:55 PM (jjvz+)

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brushing your dog's teeth really is important, though I would not lead with it today.

168138 Our son had to take a suspected Tolleeeebon into custody when he was in A-stan. He was so grossed out having to grab the guy's left hand to cuff him, he said he went through a small container of hand sanitizer.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 07:49 PM (lVPtV)
I would imagine that it takes a lot to gross out a Marine. Don't they have to eat bugs and stuff in survival training?

Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 02:56 PM (sdi6R)

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The American media did their "harumph" for a bit when they discovered Obamapocalypse was snooping. Now that he's back on his global warming-gay marriage jag they're back on the train.

172 163 This is going to end horribly. I'm not sure how, exactly, but let's just say I am not optimistic.
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 30, 2013 07:56 PM (Gk3SS)
It's the middle east. It's a valid assumption.
Nothing has really gone right there since 1967.

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The population of Cairo is 9 million. I'm not buying an 8 million dollar delta from the Egyptian equivalent of the bridge and tunnel crowd.

Posted by: AlReuters at June 30, 2013 03:01 PM (bwrGX)

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>>Instapundit posted a piece where he said that Bush inexplicably abandoned it. Well, it wasn't inexplicable, people called him Hitler for it.
Bush didn't abandon it, Obama did. From fucking up the SOF agreement in Iraq to ignoring the green revolution in Iran to doing the same in Egypt and then Libya, Obama pussied out on helping young and mostly secular voices who just wanted a chance to have some level of freedom. He allowed the most extreme elements to take over but it was never going to last.
The internet, cell phones and even TV have allowed a generation of young people in the middle east to realize they don't have to chose between a strong man or an Islamic theocracy, they actually have a chance to rule themselves. Obama could have helped make this transition smoother but he chose to blame America and Bush.
He chose poorly. And he will be remembered for his cowardice.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2013 03:01 PM (g1DWB)

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as dangerous as everyone says shining laser pointers at aircraft is I am surprised neither chopper has careened out of control and crashed into the crowd.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 03:02 PM (Z9EHQ)

186179 my sources said someone intercepted a message from the kremlin asking "has my superbowl ring been sized?"
Oh how I would love to see Putin pull a similar stunt with Obastard. "Can I see your Rolex, Barack? K, thx, bai."

I think President Obama has decided to be true to himself in his second term. Behind closed doors, his handlers have no doubt been begging him to keep up the act because they're thinking of Hillary, who'll never be able to play to the center in 2016 if the country is roiled in what is essentially a socialist revolution. Besides, no con man can keep up the act forever and, by his lights, Obama's played moderate centrist long enough. His recent decisions, including tacit support of the Muslim Brotherhood and the arming of Syrian extremists, the environmental regulatory regime keeping down domestic energy production, the harassment and persecution of Tea Party groups and prominent Republican donors...what we're seeing is the mask coming off. Personally, I'm grateful. I'd rather we faced the guy we're facing, not some phony baloney cardboard cutout put out there by his flunkies in the press.

Our President hates us, you know. He sees us--you and me--as his real enemies. So how do you suppose a man who made his political bones in the Chicago Machine deals with his enemies?

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Hey, I'm just following orders, putting the MB in charge over there.

Posted by: Buraq Obama at June 30, 2013 03:03 PM (y6Cei)

194In Muqattem, Egypt, a Twitterer named @sandmonkey I'm told is generally
reliable says that gunmen inside a Muslim Brotherhood HQ are shooting at
the crowd outside:

Sandmonkey is a secular, pro-American Egyptian blogger who studied here and had his eyes opened.

Posted by: Tacky Adhesive at June 30, 2013 03:04 PM (Ptv7k)

195185 as dangerous as everyone says shining laser pointers at aircraft is I am surprised neither chopper has careened out of control and crashed into the crowd.
Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 08:02 PM (Z9EHQ)
That's exactly what I was thinking when I first saw the photo.
Also, isn't shining lasers at an aircraft a hostile act? I thought the protesters want the military on their side.

Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 03:04 PM (sdi6R)

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Oh how I would love to see Putin pull a similar stunt with Obastard. "Can I see your Rolex, Barack? K, thx, bai."
Posted by: George Orwell what knows ignorance is
I would love to see him make off with michelle's rhodium ring.

224 *smacks*
You think I don't know that?
*smacks again for good measure*
Posted by: alexthechick - SMOD, you taunty bitch. at June 30, 2013 08:10 PM (Gk3SS)
Ah, so we like the rough stuff?
*smacks back*

225 223 Well, I'm guessing the Maduro will be less strong than the Serie R so Macanudo first.
Posted by: George Orwell what knows ignorance is strength at June 30, 2013 08:13 PM (mCNwt)
Alrighty then. Here we go.

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Ah, so we like the rough stuff?
*smacks back*
Posted by: BCochran1981
I think she is not so keen on getting smacked back as pulled across your knee.

Posted by: yankeefifth at June 30, 2013 03:15 PM (Z9EHQ)

233That's scores of people shining their lasers up at a military helicopter.
There's a lot of good shots down there on the ground. A target covered in green dots can't be that easy to hit with your own green dot.

242
Syrian rebels behead a Catholic priest? Holy fuck!
Posted by: waldo
Well I wonder what Jimmy the Baptist will have to say about this?!
Seriously, what a cruel tragedy. I pray our Lord and Savior takes these people to His heart as the martyrs they are for His Church.

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Report from Cairo: The Egyptian army air-dropped an enormous number
of flags into the crowd from choppers and the roofs of buildings. Every
time, the crowds erupted with approval.
Posted by: Predictable History at June 30, 2013 08:19 PM (qhjtP)
--We should try to persuade our friendly neighborhood minor league baseball teams to ship their T-shirt guns to Egypt.

255 237 So they have these huge crowds and very little violence and vandalism going on. Who the hell do these people think they are, Tea Partiers?
Shit, you can't assemble a crowd of 200 OWSers or union goons here without windows getting smashed and cars overturned.
Posted by: GnuBreed at June 30, 2013 08:17 PM (ccXZP)
Not so much.
@SherineT 2h
Disgraceful RT@OpAntiSH: We have reports of more than 30 cases of mob sexual assaults in #Tahrir tonight.Â”
Retweeted by السيد مانكي
Remember, there are no good guys here.

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Sandmonkey's ties to the right side of the blogosphere go back to the early days of the Bush admin and the Iraq war.

Posted by: alcibiades at June 30, 2013 07:18 PM (Qw2M2)

True dat. I followed sandmonkey back then, he's a true believer in democracy. Was a college student here, came from the aristocracy in Egypt, his grandfather was one of the generals under the last king. He has been tremendously bold in fighting for a free democratic Egypt.

Posted by: The Farmer at June 30, 2013 03:23 PM (eBupg)

257Lasers are okay but what they really need are phased plasma rifles in the 40-watt range.
It always bugs me that 40 watts is in fact very low in power. Like a porch light. Also where is my flying car?

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--We should try to persuade our friendly neighborhood minor league baseball teams to ship their T-shirt guns to Egypt.
***
Those deadly Hello Kitty and Pop Tart guns would be a valuable commodity over there.

For the left I'd say Obuma IS the brown acid! They obviously think everything is groovy when it's NOT!

Posted by: The Farmer at June 30, 2013 03:27 PM (eBupg)

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You know, if our State Dept. had any real Intelligence about the situation, they would have been out today incognito passing out thousands of bottles of water in Cairo.
Nothing major, but it is little things like that which may change attitudes.

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You know the great thing about being over here in Africa? When there's a world crisis I can be in bed eight hours earlier!

Posted by: Baraka Hussein I at June 30, 2013 03:30 PM (FcR7P)

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If the MB is truly shooting out from their HQ, and the Government's helicopters are getting lased from the crowd below, my suspicion would be that the MB is trying to provoke violence from the crowd and a reaction form the military.

278268 You know, if our State Dept. had any real Intelligence about the situation, they would have been out today incognito passing out thousands of bottles of water in Cairo.
Nothing major, but it is little things like that which may change attitudes.
Posted by: Reader C.J. Burch writes more nonsense...... at June 30, 2013 08:28 PM (9bMee)
But if they're incognito, how would the protesters know where the water is from?

Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 03:31 PM (sdi6R)

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Hehehehe.
Lots of my "friends" on facebook posting all this feel good crap about life and inspirational messages and such crap.
I'm breaking out Cochran's Rules of Life.
Sure to be offensive and sure to be the Truth.
Rule #1 is up.

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@268You know, if our State Dept. had any real Intelligence about the situation, they would have been out today incognito passing out thousands of bottles of water in Cairo. Or passing around Sandra Fluke!!11!!heh

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I'll be honest. I thought this was going to be a dud. Obviously, I know there's a ton of discontent in Egypt right now; but I figured the Morsi had far more backers who were more organized and more violent.

It's been good to see this level of turnout.

Posted by: AD at June 30, 2013 03:34 PM (YCDYX)

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>>Remember, there are no good guys here.
Sure there are.
I'd hate to have the US judged by the same standard. Probably get that many sexual assaults on any given game day on college campuses every football season.
Guys like Sandmonkey who went to school at Northeastern are the new generation in the Muslim world. They are a whole lot more interested in building a functional country than they are in going to war with anyone.
If you really think that there is no hope for the middle east then kiss Israel goodbye and get ready for WWIII.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2013 03:34 PM (g1DWB)

288 284 I always wanted to take a Nile cruise and visit the Pyramids. *crosses off bucket list*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 08:33 PM (lVPtV)
I always wanted my children to grow up in a land of freedom and opportunity.
*readies pencil*

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JJ Sefton - I get the impression it was the Coptic old-guard who hated Jews. Pope Shenoute III, for instance; who, assuming there is a Hell, is currently chillin' in the Avignon wing.

The younger Copts are wise to the game. And I've fortunately not heard so much pro-Palestinian crap from whoever the new Coptic Pope is.

Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 30, 2013 03:34 PM (QTHTd)

291280 @268You know, if our State Dept. had any real Intelligence about the situation, they would have been out today incognito passing out thousands of bottles of water in Cairo.
Barack reserves bottled water for those fainting during his divine speeches.

292
This would be a great time for the ancient Pharaohs to rise and storm Morsi's palace, impervious to bullets, mortars, etc.

I'd PPV that shit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 03:35 PM (lVPtV)

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284 I always wanted to take a Nile cruise and visit the Pyramids. *crosses off bucket list*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 08:33 PM (lVPtV)
--I gave up on that two years ago. Now I'm not sure if I'll even get to see Petra.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 03:35 PM (fOFYL)

294Here is a file box full of new pens.
Were going to need a bigger box.

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The younger Copts are wise to the game. And I've fortunately not heard so much pro-Palestinian crap from whoever the new Coptic Pope is.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 30, 2013 08:34 PM (QTHTd)
--Unbelievable that the Copts would ever sympathize with the Paleos since the Copts were the original Egyptians overrun by the A-rabs in the seventh century.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 03:38 PM (fOFYL)

306I always wanted to take a Nile cruise and visit the Pyramids. *crosses off bucket list*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 08:33 PM (lVPtV)

I did that 10 years ago. Other than the day I spent hugging the toilet bowl on the boat it was awesome.

310284 I always wanted to take a Nile cruise and visit the Pyramids. *crosses off bucket list*
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 08:33 PM (lVPtV)-----------------------------------------------------

I've got a picture on my mantlepiece of my mom on a camel at age 70 in front of the pyramids. It is awesome.

312 Our son has experienced a free country, full of opportunity, and now...this. One of the reasons he's getting TFO of the military. Baraky Oblah-blah. CiC.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 08:37 PM (lVPtV)
Btw, do me a favor. Next time you see your son, shake his hand and tell him this Moron is damn proud of him and appreciates his service more than words can say.
My BIL was recently debating whether to stay in or get out of the Navy. His concerns where family based though. He was tired of missing the important parts of his kids' lives.
He ultimately decided to stay in because he transferred to a squadron (Navy pilot) where he won't have to deploy overseas anymore.
He's halfway to his 20 years.

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I did that 10 years ago. Other than the day I spent hugging the toilet bowl on the boat it was awesome.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at June 30, 2013 08:38 PM (jpUgO)
--I fear if the MB holds on they may eventually go Bamiyan on the Temple of Karnak, the Pyramids, and the Sphinx.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 03:41 PM (fOFYL)

315
IQ and Common Sense in the State Department? Going to need a lot of red pens for all those circles.

316
Watched it last night. Wish I could duck tape every LIV/FSA to their fucking chairs, with their eyes forced open with toothpicks, to watch it.
***
I tried to watch it last night while staying active in the threads and couldn't do either.
I'm going to check out and focus on the program when it comes on tonight.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 03:42 PM (jjvz+)

317Unbelievable that the Copts would ever sympathize with the Paleos since
the Copts were the original Egyptians overrun by the A-rabs in the
seventh century.

Well, in the 1950s and 1960s, it could be (and was) believed in upper-crust Arab circles that Islam was kind of an embarrassment, and that pan-Middle-Eastern socialist / nationalist solidarity was where it was at.

Hence, all the Alawites and Christians who joined up with other local minorities to form, say, the Baath in Iraq and Syria. Hence even the PLO and the Popular Front For The Liberation Of Palestine (I think it was called, unless I'm channeling Monty Python). Hence Nasser.

The Ayatollah and Hizbollah killed all that; it just took awhile for the corpse to quit twitching.

"This is tres boring, being the Secretary of State's wife." Sighs, guzzles wine in priceless but disposable crystal, as, "Dahling, I have a bajillion of these flutes*

*throws one in marble fireplace to prove point, where tiny photo of Kerry wearing Telebubbie NASA suit is glued to flue.

"I thought it would be more fun! John said it would be a stepping stone to the White House!" Sighs. Slurps down raw oysters and Russian caviar on endive, her diet of the day.

"I do not understand why I am not in South Africa tonight with the preznit! After all, I went to school in South Africa and familiar with all of the nicest restaurants! I am fluent in English, Spanish, French, Italian, and my native Portuguese! I know wines of each country!"

"We did not even get a new house out of the deal! All we got was the Seal. I thought he meant a SEAL, so I went along with the idea." Rolls eyes.

"I hope he does not expect me, Theresa, to go with him to these third world countries to negotiate whatever. I require sushi-grade tuna daily and my sleep is important. Egyptian, highest thread-count cotton, or no sleep! I am very worried about the exports of sheets from Egypt with the protesting."

"All in all I am not happy." Signals to butler to bring in next crystal flute. This is repeated until she slurs, "He does look a but like Lurch, doesn't he?" and passes out cold on her antique silk divan. Her toy poodle, not to be mistaken with her spouse per pre-nup, excitedly finishes off the champagne.

324
The Marines are losing an amazing, gung-ho young man. And I blame this shitty administration.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 08:44 PM (lVPtV)
It's not all bad. At least we will have good recruits when we battle the Federal brownshirts.

333 His leaving has nothing to do with the possibility of being re-deployed. He's go back if asked to.
He's sick to death with the PC bullshit. I'd say more here, but I'd better not. If you're in touch with EC, he knows the specifics.
The Marines are losing an amazing, gung-ho young man. And I blame this shitty administration.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 08:44 PM (lVPtV)
Oh I get it. Like I said, my BIL has missed some big moments, like the birth of his third child, and just couldn't do that anymore. He didn't really have a problem with the deployments per se, just what it required him to miss.
I do email with EC from time to time. I'll ask him about it sometime.
I've got a buddy in Okinawa right now. His deployment was extended. Made us all nervous when all the Nork shit was going down.

335327 If 17 million Egyptians want any attention from the American Praetorian Guard media, they all need to come out as gay hire Wendy Davis as their spokeswoman.
She would look better in an abaya, too.

Yeah, we had just Skyped our son, and the NORK shit went down, and he was given orders the very next day to go to Korea (his second tour). I literally freaked out, thinking, "Dear God, he survived gun, mortar fire, and IEDs to go to Korea to get blown up?"

Anyhow, he's been there done that in Korea. The one place he'd love to go back to would be Thailand. Even living in non-airconditioned Thai Marine barracks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 03:50 PM (lVPtV)

342
'No good guys? Well, I'm still curious what the
Coptic component of these protests are. Of course, for obvious reasons
the Copts themselves may not want them to be known.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 08:36 PM (fOFYL)'

The administration tried to get the Copts not to participate. It's sort of like FDR asking the Jews to cooperate with Hitler.

348343 So the Egyptians are celebrating gay pride too? From what I understand that's what all the huge crowds are out and about doing this weekend.
I'm celebrating gay pride right now.
*takes long drag off cigar*

Thanks. She's fought the good fight. She's extremely strong, spiritually, and ready to go. Her husband has hospice for her. I just don't know how to say "goodbye" to such a strong, amazing woman. Breaks my heart.

353
Major Bullshit Media reasons for the crowds this weekend in Cairo:
It's the "Taste of Cairo" food festival
Somebody thought there was a World Cup FIFA game in Cairo today.
They thought that Barack Obama was going to speak.

354
Yeah, I may watch that Benghazi special, but if I get to pissed or depressed I'll pop in another video for the babeh. :-|

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 03:58 PM (fOFYL)

355
Thanks. She's fought the good fight. She's extremely
strong, spiritually, and ready to go. Her husband has hospice for her. I
just don't know how to say "goodbye" to such a strong, amazing woman.
Breaks my heart.

358
"Bret Baier's new report on Benghazi airs again at 9:00 "
I don't know if I can handle watching it. I've been wallowing in bitchiness ever since a certain asshole got reelected.
And Predictable History's list of questions that a CNN reporter asked of a protester in Egypt just makes me want to slap a reporter.

363
Fox News poll shows 71% of participants wants the Benghazi investigation to continue.
Who the hell are the remaining 29%?!

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 04:02 PM (jjvz+)

364
"The one place he'd love to go back to would be Thailand."
Heh! What red-blooded Jarhead wouldn't want to back to Phuket & Pattya Beach!?
On another note; I am sorry to hear about your friend Jane; my condolences and prayers for you both.

368 Thanks. She's fought the good fight. She's extremely strong, spiritually, and ready to go. Her husband has hospice for her. I just don't know how to say "goodbye" to such a strong, amazing woman. Breaks my heart.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 08:54 PM (lVPtV)
I lost a cousin at the age of 7. She was the flower girl at my wife and I's wedding. She was diagnosed right before her 3rd birthday.
Not only did she have cancer, but she had such a shitty home life. Her dad, my cousin, is pretty much the biggest piece of shit alive.
But she was beautiful and an inspiration. Mourn for your friend, but celebrate the beauty and light she's brought into your life.

369363 Fox News poll shows 71% of participants wants the Benghazi investigation to continue.
Who the hell are the remaining 29%?!
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 09:02 PM (jjvz+)
They have no idea what "Benghazi" means.

I'm enjoying a Macanudo and some Cabo Wabo. And that's all there is to it

Cherroot not good enough for tequila drinkers?

Posted by: Clint Eastwood at June 30, 2013 04:10 PM (qLYdI)

379 Cherroot not good enough for tequila drinkers?
Posted by: Clint Eastwood at June 30, 2013 09:10 PM (qLYdI)
Quite the opposite sir. I'm not good enough for the Clint Eastwood special.
Although I am sitting with a lot of empty chairs right now.
Hold on....evil idea percolating........

381
>>>I'm enjoying a Macanudo and some Cabo Wabo. And that's all there is to it.
Finishing a pitcher of blueberry mojitos that contained a full fifth of rum. It's only Cougar and I drinking it.
Also, watching the O's beat the Evil Empire. Not a bad way to enjoy The End Of The World As We Know It.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 04:12 PM (jIaZt)

382
It's 3:11 AM in Cairo. Is this still going on? I'm not watching TV.
This is a handy site to bookmark, by the way:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/

Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 04:12 PM (sdi6R)

383
Morsi supporters say their clubs and homemade body armor are just for self defense as protestors in Tahrir Square and across the country demand Morsi to leave office. The death toll is now up to seven, with one American.

Morsi and his supporters are blaming the remnants of the Mubarak regime for sabotaging their efforts in the past year. Why is it do tyrannical regimes always blame someone else? Oh wait rhetorical question.

http://tinyurl.com/nxxhhj4

The tourist city of Luxor is a ghost town. Only five of 320 cruise ships that ply the Nile are still active. The Morsi appointed governor was chased out by protestors because he belongs to the group that attacked Luxor in 1997 killing 58 foreign tourists and 4 Egyptians.

384
Finishing a pitcher of blueberry mojitos that contained a full fifth of rum. It's only Cougar and I drinking it.
Also, watching the O's beat the Evil Empire. Not a bad way to enjoy The End Of The World As We Know It.
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 09:12 PM (jIaZt)
*Looks at calendar*
Ahem...it's only Sunday!

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 30, 2013 04:13 PM (V1ZIU)

385
>>>And judging by your nic, thank you SIR.
Based on what I know of COJ (admittedly, not much), his response will be something along the lines of "don't call me sir, I work for a living"

391
"Paranoid Girl in Seattle,
well the Rainbow Pride types are teamed with OW$....
it's a moonbat twofer"
One of the good things about Michigan. The proportion of hipster douchebags is pretty small.
We have our union thugs and welfare scum, but frankly none of them much like hipster OW$ types.
And when anyone suggests putting some butt ugly windfarm along Lake Michigan most people start hating on the environmentalists.

Posted by: nerdygirl at June 30, 2013 04:16 PM (GzffW)

392
"I'm enjoying a Macanudo and some Cabo Wabo."
"Finishing a pitcher of blueberry mojitos that contained a full fifth of rum. It's only Cougar and I drinking it."
FML...all I have is some Los Reyes brandy and a good Dominican until the shops open tomorrow.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2013 04:16 PM (57bzg)

393
Mourn for your friend, but celebrate the beauty and light she's brought into your life.

400 Finishing a pitcher of blueberry mojitos that contained a full fifth of rum. It's only Cougar and I drinking it.
I....you....my God Jim.
Also, watching the O's beat the Evil Empire. Not a bad way to enjoy The End Of The World As We Know It.
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 09:12 PM (jIaZt)
Now THAT is enjoyable.

all I have is some Los Reyes brandy and a good Dominican until the shops open tomorrow.

How young is she?

Posted by: Bob Menendez at June 30, 2013 04:20 PM (qLYdI)

403
>>>I....you....my God Jim.
Seriously, if you like mojitos, and given your preference for gut-rot hangover-makers I'm sure you don't, give it a shot.
Make pitcher of regular mojitos using whatever recipe you like, add two or three handfuls of blueberries. Perfect poolside drink.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 04:21 PM (jIaZt)

404
They will have to kill all the Imams and burn that damn muslim University to the ground if they ever want to be free of the ignorant savages.
***
I'm no scholar and, in fact, have huge gaps of knowledge re the ME, but this does seem the answer.
Cut the head off the snake.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 04:21 PM (jjvz+)

405
Damn it. Laid the lighter down in a wet spot on the patio table.
Now having to use the grill lighter. Which is like a foot long.
*First World Problems*

406
Son is giving movie reviews to us on Skype. The movies he loves sound sucky.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 04:22 PM (lVPtV)

407
>>>Which is like a foot long.
*Scottish brouge* Some men are longer than others.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 04:22 PM (jIaZt)

408 Seriously, if you like mojitos, and given your preference for gut-rot hangover-makers I'm sure you don't, give it a shot.
I have stated many times that I drink like I'm still in college. And I'm ok with that.
Make pitcher of regular mojitos using whatever recipe you like, add two or three handfuls of blueberries. Perfect poolside drink.
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 09:21 PM (jIaZt)
That's actually doable. I have a couple blueberry bushes in my backyard.

409
Oh God.
After seeing a Libyan officer photographing the compound, Sean Smith sent a text to a friend that said "Assuming we don't die tonight..."

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 04:23 PM (jjvz+)

410
Jane D'Oh, I am so sorry about your friend. You don't need to say good-bye, as you will see her again.

But thank her for her friendship and tell her what a difference she made in your life. This will mean a lot to her.

Prayers for you both.

Posted by: Miss Marple at June 30, 2013 04:23 PM (GoIUi)

411 *Scottish brouge* Some men are longer than others.
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 09:22 PM (jIaZt)
*knocks back a shot*
*Irish lilt*
Aye laddie, and some of us learn to make due with what the Good Lord do be givin us.

In a country where the IRS is targeting groups for their political beliefs, where the government is going after reporters who don't toe the line, where four men were murdered in Libya because the president couldn't be bothered to send a plane from Italy while he was planning a junket to Vegas, where we're all subject to constant monitoring for our "protection," where the stupid party is about to destroy everything on which this country was built by forcing through amnesty for illegal aliens, and where we're likely going to have widespread riots in a bit when Zimmerman is found not guilty of shooting the president's son, all my outrage has been spent here, thanks. The Egyptians will have to take care of things themselves.

Posted by: Palandine[/i] at June 30, 2013 04:24 PM (aBOpX)

414 After seeing a Libyan officer photographing the compound, Sean Smith sent a text to a friend that said "Assuming we don't die tonight..."
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 09:23 PM (jjvz+)
FFS.
*rage meter off the motherfucking charts*

415
>>>That's actually doable. I have a couple blueberry bushes in my backyard.
Add mint, simple syrup, rum and club soda. We might just make a civilized man out of you yet.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 04:25 PM (jIaZt)

416 Add mint, simple syrup, rum and club soda. We might just make a civilized man out of you yet.
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 09:25 PM (jIaZt)
That sounds like a lot of work.
Isn't it enough that I made Tequila Sours?

After seeing a Libyan officer photographing the compound, Sean Smith
sent a text to a friend that said "Assuming we don't die tonight..."

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 09:23 PM (jjvz+)

I know. However, Barry slept like a baby that night, and after a fifth of Scotch, so did Hilary.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 04:26 PM (lVPtV)

418
Well, they must be pretty organized if they all have lasers. That's nothing something the average person has sitting around.

Godspeed to them. I think it will be ineffective, but it's worth a shot. Barky of course will not deign to speak on their behalf. Bunch of Egyptian bitter clingers.

Posted by: PJ at June 30, 2013 04:26 PM (ZWaLo)

419
FFS.
*rage meter off the motherfucking charts*
***
Imagine the terror. They were begging for help.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 04:27 PM (jjvz+)

420
This Benghazi special on FOX is pissing me off all over again. We are being ruled by idiots. Nothing of consequence is going to happen to anyone involved, in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Cankles in the next President. I need to get find somewhere else to live.

Sure. What else u gonna do with expired lemon juice and sugar packets u pocketed from the motel lounge?

Posted by: Cicero Kid at June 30, 2013 04:28 PM (qLYdI)

423
>>>Aye laddie, and some of us learn to make due with what the Good Lord do be givin us.
Several responses:
1) I didn't know the Irish spoke Ebonics. "be given us"? Really?
2) your wimmin folk learn to make do as well, I suppose.
3) I can't believe you missed the hanging curveball I left you with that Braveheart reference. I'm very disappointed.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 04:28 PM (jIaZt)

424 Imagine the terror. They were begging for help.
Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 09:27 PM (jjvz+)
But, according to Drew, there was no help available.
*starts throwing shit*

427
@380 I remember when the MSM paid far more attention to a woman sitting in a ditch in protest than 17 million in Egypt@Thanks for remembering me. The MFM totally forgot about me after that evil Boooosh left office!!11!1!1!1

428
This Benghazi special on FOX is pissing me off all over again. We are being ruled by idiots. Nothing of consequence is going to happen to anyone involved, in fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Cankles in the next President. I need to get find somewhere else to live
***
With all the present scandals, it's good to piss us off and remind us of what's important.

Posted by: Niedermeyer's Dead Horse at June 30, 2013 04:29 PM (jjvz+)

429
So far most of the Benghazi special is review to people like most Morons who were paying attention.
Which is probably how I'm still tuned in and not angry or depressed as hell.

Posted by: logprof at June 30, 2013 04:30 PM (fOFYL)

430
I always am better drunken at writing real well. So there is that.

I forget...whose side are we on?Posted by: ChristyBlinky, radicalized Redneck Queen at June 30, 2013 07:22 PM (baL2B)
*************Saw snippets here and there about possible Admin talks with MB and Morsi re. "moderating" the situation. Hope that is not true. But it is the Obama tactic when it comes to Republicans -- that would be lying of course,or buying them dinner.

Sounds super dumb, but Obama's FP is abysmal- so not impossible.

Posted by: gracepmc at June 30, 2013 04:31 PM (rznx3)

435 Several responses:
1) I didn't know the Irish spoke Ebonics. "be given us"? Really?
Givin, not given. Two different things.
2) your wimmin folk learn to make do as well, I suppose.
There are lots of responses I could make here. Most of them to obscene ever for AoS. Let's put it this way, the wife is very, very happy.
3) I can't believe you missed the hanging curveball I left you with that Braveheart reference. I'm very disappointed.
Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 09:28 PM (jIaZt)
Tequila. Mea culpa.

436
Well DC; you're right, I was an enlisted guy in the Corps.
I would have to say out of respect for the folks who stay home and take care of our families and loved ones: Marines (and all the others) owe you folks equal thanks for your service.
At least we get trained to deal with hardship and suffering to get the job done then we go on deployment to practice that and put it to use.
You poor guys just get OJT; sink or swim...
Thank you for all that you do.

442 Issa has issued more subpoenas, so at least there's that. I want impeachments and perp walks.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 09:32 PM (lVPtV)
I want a rope and a motherfucking tree for whoever said "stand down."

443
The MoBros finally achieve power, and look at what happens. They are unable to run their own country; in fact, it looks like they'll be lucky to be allowed to stay in their own country.
This isn't the end of shari'a, but shari'a is headed towards its end.

Posted by: Arbalest at June 30, 2013 04:34 PM (FlRtG)

444
what if even half of those 17 million had a firearm and could all get on the same page...

Posted by: sound awake at June 30, 2013 04:34 PM (NbUW1)

445
So if Hillary gets elected president can she fall down, hit her head, and then not have to do anything for four years?

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 30, 2013 04:35 PM (V1ZIU)

446
Imagine the two men on the roofs of the (CIA?) building, lighting up the mortars being fired toward them, thinking, "Any minute now, my government is going to take those guys out." And then, BOOM. The last fleeting thoughts in their minds, "They let me die...."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 04:35 PM (lVPtV)

447
>>>I would have to say out of respect for the folks who stay home and take care of our families and loved ones: Marines (and all the others) owe you folks equal thanks for your service.
I always told Cougar the same thing. But she is a hard charger, and said "this is who you are. It's why I married you"
It's also why I got out. Some men can handle the separation, the missed birthdays, anniversaries, holidays. They are better men than I.

Posted by: DC in Towson at June 30, 2013 04:36 PM (jIaZt)

448440
What pissed me off the most, is the LIVs who will never see it, or just won't care.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 09:32 PM (lVPtV)
"Oh, they all do it" is my favorite LIV 'argument'.

Posted by: rickl at June 30, 2013 04:36 PM (sdi6R)

449 445 So if Hillary gets elected president can she fall down, hit her head, and then not have to do anything for four years?
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at June 30, 2013 09:35 PM (V1ZIU)
I am strangely ok with this idea.

When I was a soldier, I came home on xmas leave and, while having dinner with my family, asked my mother to pass the f*cking potatoes. I come from very religious people. Shocked silence ensued. Took me years after I got out of the Service to train myself to stop swearing all the time. I still find myself doing it when I'm tired or upset.

Take no offense. The legal profession has its own language, the medical field has its own language, and the military has its own language. Unfortunately, the language spoken by the military shouldn't be spoken aloud in mixed company.

I spoke to my son yesterday, who's deployed at FOB Apache in Zabul Province, Afghanistan. He's picked up some fairly colorful language himself. I didn't call him on it. How could I?

457
Oh please, Barry, make a visit to Cairo and speak soothing words to the masses.

*cough*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 04:39 PM (lVPtV)

458 Have never called him on his language since joining. However, his dad gently reminded him, "Son, when you get out, you need to work on cleaning it up."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at June 30, 2013 09:38 PM (lVPtV)
My FIL is ex-PG County Maryland LEO. I'm 4th generation Construction Business.
As my wife says, "We're an R-rated family."

459
So I guess I'm agreeing with you.
Posted by: boulder toilet hobo at June 30, 2013 09:38 PM (QTHTd)
Had a friend back in the day who loved the movie "Lord of War", but he took the movie as a straight indictment against gun controllers. He thought Nick Cage was a hero for getting guns into everyone's hands.

464461
They have been protesting our female ambassador there as well and burning her pictures, the American flag, Obama's picture, etc.

If
I were this Ambassador I would be feeling a tad bit nervous as this
admin doesn't have a strong record for protecting our own. I wonder what
her security is like.

Posted by: Cheri at June 30, 2013 09:41 PM (EAgmr)

First of all, Barry's "brilliance" at sending a white, non-Muslim woman as ambassador to a Muslim country speaks volumes about his "world vision" and lack of intellect. Didn't he also send a female to replace Ambassador Stevens? I can't keep up with the stupidity.

467
I don't know any more than anybody else, but from my work experience in that part of the world I know that Egyptians are considered important in part (so the Egyptians tell me - but others as well) due to the antiquity and strength of their civilization. Even though all their real achievements were pre-Islamic. I can't figure it out either.
Anyway, a revolution in Egypt may have major consequences simply due to the high regard in which Egyptian civilization and culture are held throughout the Arab world. We shall see.

Posted by: Skookumchuk at June 30, 2013 04:50 PM (X4XOs)

468
453Â what if even half of those 17 million had a firearm and could all get on the same page...That's the Yemen. Everyone's armed over there. It becomes an ungovernable tribal free-for-all.
of course they would never have anything resembling the 2nd amendment after ruth bader ginsburg went over there and told them when they were writing their constitution to not base it on ours
gee i wonder why...

Posted by: sound awake at June 30, 2013 04:52 PM (NbUW1)

469
There's an opportunity here to break a record set in '45, iykwimaittyd.

Posted by: Xavier at June 30, 2013 04:55 PM (FoLV7)

470
"Some men can handle the separation, the missed birthdays, anniversaries, holidays."
I never saw a single Marine who wasn't happy to be with friends or loved ones on those days. At our place, there was a standing offer to anyone who could not go home for the holidays to come share a meal and libations at our place. My wife used to take goose and sugar plum sauce to the guys on guard duty at the squadron on Christmas eve and on Christmas day. My daughter was 10 before she realized that all those guys weren't her uncles. Heh!
Most non-military people have no idea how meaningful it is when they offer the most simple thanks. I only wish that they knew how hard it is for the families of the guys and gals on deployment.
On the other hand...My oldest boy is scheduled to go to Boot Camp after his 21st birthday in October. He'll be there through the holiday season. Its gonna be really hard on the Grumpy Grandma; I, on the other hand will not be affected.....*cough, cough, sniff*
What goes around comes around. :0

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 30, 2013 04:56 PM (57bzg)

471
My father never lost his colorful language, because when he left the service in '45, he went into construction.

This is why my son, his grandson, piped up one day saying "That isn't worth sour owl shit."

His daughters had a working knowledge of colorful language, too. But my mother, a Methodist and a schoolteacher, schooled us on not using it in public.

Barack Obama sleeps soundly in his bed while hard men doing rough deeds on his behalf die in the night.

Posted by: Esteban10077@sven10077 at June 30, 2013 04:59 PM (LRFds)

473
It's the middle east. It's a valid assumption.
Nothing has really gone right there since 1967. since time began
FIFY

Posted by: gw mclintock at June 30, 2013 05:20 PM (hUAV6)

474
'Approaching 4 hrs of nation-wide live coverge of attacks on #MB
#Moqatam HQ & still no police on site & no reaction from #MoI
#Egypt.

Â— Gehad El-Haddad (@gelhaddad) June 30, 2013

This
concerns the MoFoBrosÂ’ Cairo HQ, which is their main bldg in Egypt. The
protestors set it ablaze and no one from government or the military has
come to help.

Earlier, military helicopters dropped an enormous
number of flags on the crowds, who erupted in approval, police and other
first responders are refusing to act against the citizens and are, in
fact, joining them.

475
This time, Obama's guy is in power, and Obama's party is in power. Of course he's not going to make a speech. Of course he's not going to say "he has to go."

Obama is no Muslim. But if he did favor shariah and Islamic political dominance, would his actions and behavior with respect to the "Islamic nations" (an American president should never use such words without derision and castigation as his intent) be different than what they have been and are? I submit, no, they would not.

Posted by: MeHome at June 30, 2013 05:31 PM (fIkHQ)

476
Sandmonkey is great... I used one of his posts in my class to show my students what free speech really means (it means speaking out against tyrants and dictators and those who would take away their life, liberty, and property).

478
6 months ago a friend of mine, who is married to an Egyptian, made the comment that Morsi was considered by many Egyptians to have stolen the election with a lot of outside help -- and that this, plus the lack of democratic reforms were resented by many and if not addressed would lead to another uprising.
This and the protests in Turkey may lead to other events.

Posted by: citizen of the LoL at June 30, 2013 05:35 PM (DBkD3)

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Conventional wisdom: "If we support the overthrow of Mubarak and his kind the people will probably choose their new rulers poorly"
Reality: "Correct."
Conventional wisdom: "Then all will be lost and these Arab societies will be Shariah states for decades, maybe centuries"
Reality: "Less than correct."