White House officials held talks with representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood in Washington this week, as the Islamist group threw itself into the fray in Egypt's presidential election.

The meeting on Tuesday with low-level National Security Council staff was part of a series of US efforts to broaden engagement with new and emerging political parties following Egypt's revolution last year, a US official said.

The White House pointed out that Republican Senators Lindsey Graham and John McCain, and other US lawmakers and officials had also met with Brotherhood representatives in Egypt and elsewhere in recent months.

"We believe that it is in the interest of the United States to engage with all parties that are committed to democratic principles, especially nonviolence," said National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor.

"We believe that it is in the interest of the United States to engage with all parties that are committed to democratic principles, especially nonviolence," said National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor.

Absolutely......so where does the Muslim Brotherhood fit into this?

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posted on 04/04/2012 5:26:42 PM PDT
by Future Snake Eater
(If we had a President, he'd look like Newt.)

“We believe that it is in the interest of the United States to engage with all parties that are committed to democratic principles, especially nonviolence,” said National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor.

LMFAO!!!! The Muslim Brotherhood as “non-violent” Ha that is rich. Are these clown that stupid or is it willful ignorance?

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posted on 04/04/2012 6:08:24 PM PDT
by Wyatt's Torch
(I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)

You left out the rest of the world. These maniacs are an existential threat to life on earth. We want to give them the Egyptian military. We’ve got to win this election. Another 4 years of Obama and you might as well just kick over the lamp yourself.

"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;

...

that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "

"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"

Yeesh, “democracy” and representational government don’t work everywhere, especially in countries that would vote for Islamic radicals.

Instead of pushing for democracy, we should be pushing for the best government possible, no matter what form it’s in. In much of the Islamic world, the best we can hope for is a relatively secular strong-man or king.

This is a continuation since Carter's time... here is what Bill Clinton (few years ago) had to say in a television interview with Charlie Rose:

Iran is the only country in the world that has now had six elections since the first election of President Khatami (in 1997). (It is) the only one with elections, including the United States, including Israel, including you name it, where the liberals, or the progressives, have won two-thirds to 70 percent of the vote in six elections: Two for president; two for the Parliament, the Majlis; two for the mayoralties. In every single election, the guys I identify with got two-thirds to 70 percent of the vote. There is no other country in the world I can say that about, certainly not my own.

Amir Taheri then writes: So, while millions of Iranians, especially the young, look to the United States as a mode of progress and democracy, a former president of the US looks to the Islamic Republic as his ideological homeland.

But who are the guys Clinton identifies with?

There is, of course, President Muhammad Khatami who, speaking at a conference of provincial governors last week, called for the whole world to convert to Islam.

Human beings understand different affairs within the global framework that they live in, he said. But when we say that Islam belongs to all times and places, it is implied that the very essence of Islam is such that despite changes (in time and place) it is always valid.

There is also Khatamis brother, Muhammad-Reza, the man who, in 1979, led the students who seized the US Embassy in Tehran and held its diplomats hostage for 444 days. There is Massumeh Ebtekar, a poor mans pasionaria who was spokesperson for the hostage-holders in Tehran. There is also the late Ayatollah Sadeq Khalkhali, known to Iranians as Judge Blood. -- Excerpt from Amir Taheris 2009 book The Persian Night, worth reading the page

For some reason they mistake "elections" & semblance of democracy for the real stuff. The willful ignorance is astounding!

Instead of pushing for democracy, we should be pushing for the best government possible, no matter what form its in. In much of the Islamic world, the best we can hope for is a relatively secular strong-man or king.

Agreed. And, that king or secular strong-man shouldn't be encouraging islam, instead have programs & introduce initiatives, all around & at all levels, that educate & move people away from islamic this & that, be it gradually.

...Republican Senators Lindsey Graham and John McCain, and other US lawmakers and officials had also met with Brotherhood representatives in Egypt and elsewhere in recent months.

Inquiring minds want to see the recent travel vouchers and logs for Congress the past few months. I want to know who else beside Graham and McCain made these negotiatiating excursions. I know there are some savvy FReepers out there that can find such information or know where to look.

They said McCain was in Egypt, but it appears not all the foreign travel information is available?

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posted on 04/05/2012 3:34:16 AM PDT
by EBH
(God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)

I like how they mention McCain and lindsey graham meeting with the MB. The two least liked Repunblicans by conservatives at large does not mitigate Obama’s actions, it only ADDS to the stupidity of it all.

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posted on 04/05/2012 6:52:27 AM PDT
by Cubs Fan
(if it weren't for double standards the left wouldn't have any standards at all)

This is just the beginning FRiends. If this faction is allowed to infiltrate our government we are in for a nasty future. These are very sneaky deceitful people and they are getting the best of our leaders right now....very disturbing.

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