The group isn't the first to express its disapproval of Archie Comics and the Kevin Keller character specifically. In 2012, One Million Moms threatened Toys 'R' Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carried the controversial Archie Comics issue in which Keller tied the knot in a same-sex wedding.

Umm...One Million Moms is the AFA.

But I will enjoy watching some of the posters here explain why this isn't bullying, but posting a business' "we don't serve gays" policy on Facebook is.

Diogenes:The group isn't the first to express its disapproval of Archie Comics and the Kevin Keller character specifically. In 2012, One Million Moms threatened Toys 'R' Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carried the controversial Archie Comics issue in which Keller tied the knot in a same-sex wedding.

Umm...One Million Moms is the AFA.

But I will enjoy watching some of the posters here explain why this isn't bullying, but posting a business' "we don't serve gays" policy on Facebook is.

By the way, I take a particular interest in this story because I collect old bubblegum records - the Archies, the 1910 Fruitgum Company, Josie and the Pussycats; that sort of thing. If these knuckleheads think the Archies are gay and satanic, the Banana Splits would make their brains melt.

I am always fascinated by Archie comics. They are light-hearted stories set in a "we should go back to a time that never existed vibe" and based around strong morale values. It looks like the kind of thing conservative parents would give kids to keep them away from the corrupt rest of the world. The reason it all works, however, is those strong values include forgiveness and charity to those who have made mistakes or don't have the same advantage, and everyone is valued and deserves an equal place at the table no matter their race, religion, orientation, ability, hamburger addiction etc. That the "values" groups lose their shiat over those ideas has always amused me.

Diogenes:The group isn't the first to express its disapproval of Archie Comics and the Kevin Keller character specifically. In 2012, One Million Moms threatened Toys 'R' Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carried the controversial Archie Comics issue in which Keller tied the knot in a same-sex wedding.

Umm...One Million Moms is the AFA.

But I will enjoy watching some of the posters here explain why this isn't bullying, but posting a business' "we don't serve gays" policy on Facebook is.

Apparently it's OK to boycott big businesses for daring to acknowledge that gay people exist, but it's not OK to boycott small business owners for discriminating against gay people. Because big businesses can take it because they're big, while the poor, downtrodden small business owners will be forced to go out of business and live on the street. Or something.

RedPhoenix122:"I know I sound like an old crank," Vitagliano said, "But when kids grow up being fed lies, why should we surprised if they believe lies? "

Isn't that the AFA's whole business model?

I'm surprised that they don't see the irony.

Reminds me of this conversation I heard some of my co-workers having. One guy is a dad of 2 little kids and very, very Christiany who is telling the lady next to me about maybe possibly the kids figuring out the truth about Santa Claus. He says, "what if they start questioning if other things aren't real, like the Easter bunny or the tooth fairy?" It took all the reserve in my arsenal to keep from blurting out "....or Jesus?" Cool story, brah.

I mean, how do these people just not see the irony?

I grew up with supposedly Christian adults telling me that rock music was from the devil and if you played records backward and that that an upside down peace sign was actually a cross upside down(!) and these people earnestly believed these things and told these kinds of things to people and pass it off as truth who were young and impressionable to scare them, I guess? At least Archie comics is fiction. No one has ever tried to pass anything in Archie comics off as truth. (Or Harry Potter, or any of the other things these cranks like to complain about.)

Needlessly Complicated:RedPhoenix122: "I know I sound like an old crank," Vitagliano said, "But when kids grow up being fed lies, why should we surprised if they believe lies? "

Isn't that the AFA's whole business model?

I'm surprised that they don't see the irony.

Reminds me of this conversation I heard some of my co-workers having. One guy is a dad of 2 little kids and very, very Christiany who is telling the lady next to me about maybe possibly the kids figuring out the truth about Santa Claus. He says, "what if they start questioning if other things aren't real, like the Easter bunny or the tooth fairy?" It took all the reserve in my arsenal to keep from blurting out "....or Jesus?" Cool story, brah.

I mean, how do these people just not see the irony?

I grew up with supposedly Christian adults telling me that rock music was from the devil and if you played records backward and that that an upside down peace sign was actually a cross upside down(!) and these people earnestly believed these things and told these kinds of things to people and pass it off as truth who were young and impressionable to scare them, I guess? At least Archie comics is fiction. No one has ever tried to pass anything in Archie comics off as truth. (Or Harry Potter, or any of the other things these cranks like to complain about.)

fiddlehead:Diogenes: The group isn't the first to express its disapproval of Archie Comics and the Kevin Keller character specifically. In 2012, One Million Moms threatened Toys 'R' Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carried the controversial Archie Comics issue in which Keller tied the knot in a same-sex wedding.

Umm...One Million Moms is the AFA.

But I will enjoy watching some of the posters here explain why this isn't bullying, but posting a business' "we don't serve gays" policy on Facebook is.

Apparently it's OK to boycott big businesses for daring to acknowledge that gay people exist, but it's not OK to boycott small business owners for discriminating against gay people. Because big businesses can take it because they're big, while the poor, downtrodden small business owners will be forced to go out of business and live on the street. Or something.

It's not okay to boycott big businesses for discriminating against gay people, or at least for giving money for anti-gay legislation. Remember Chik-fil-A? No, the real test here, as it should be for all business decisions, is whether or not it's Christian. Not Christ-Chrisitan, mind you, American-Christian, which leaves out most of that pesky red letter part of the Bible.

Needlessly Complicated:RedPhoenix122: "I know I sound like an old crank," Vitagliano said, "But when kids grow up being fed lies, why should we surprised if they believe lies? "

Isn't that the AFA's whole business model?

I'm surprised that they don't see the irony.

Reminds me of this conversation I heard some of my co-workers having. One guy is a dad of 2 little kids and very, very Christiany who is telling the lady next to me about maybe possibly the kids figuring out the truth about Santa Claus. He says, "what if they start questioning if other things aren't real, like the Easter bunny or the tooth fairy?" It took all the reserve in my arsenal to keep from blurting out "....or Jesus?" Cool story, brah.

I mean, how do these people just not see the irony?

I grew up with supposedly Christian adults telling me that rock music was from the devil and if you played records backward and that that an upside down peace sign was actually a cross upside down(!) and these people earnestly believed these things and told these kinds of things to people and pass it off as truth who were young and impressionable to scare them, I guess? At least Archie comics is fiction. No one has ever tried to pass anything in Archie comics off as truth. (Or Harry Potter, or any of the other things these cranks like to complain about.)

The annual Rock The Universe (aka Jesuspalooza) is coming up at Universal. I always find that curious. Jurassic Park, Harry Potter, Halloween Horror Nights...shouldn't they be offended?

fiddlehead:Diogenes: The group isn't the first to express its disapproval of Archie Comics and the Kevin Keller character specifically. In 2012, One Million Moms threatened Toys 'R' Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carried the controversial Archie Comics issue in which Keller tied the knot in a same-sex wedding.

Umm...One Million Moms is the AFA.

But I will enjoy watching some of the posters here explain why this isn't bullying, but posting a business' "we don't serve gays" policy on Facebook is.

Apparently it's OK to boycott big businesses for daring to acknowledge that gay people exist, but it's not OK to boycott small business owners for discriminating against gay people. Because big businesses can take it because they're big, while the poor, downtrodden small business owners will be forced to go out of business and live on the street. Or something.

I am always fascinated by Archie comics. They are light-hearted stories set in a "we should go back to a time that never existed vibe" and based around strong morale values. It looks like the kind of thing conservative parents would give kids to keep them away from the corrupt rest of the world. The reason it all works, however, is those strong values include forgiveness and charity to those who have made mistakes or don't have the same advantage, and everyone is valued and deserves an equal place at the table no matter their race, religion, orientation, ability, hamburger addiction etc. That the "values" groups lose their shiat over those ideas has always amused me.

It's the old "Do as I say not as I do" dodge. You'll rarely find the "values" groups actually going through with any of the tolerance and acceptance they preach non stop about, and that Archie comics stresses the importance of actually following the morals you teach probably makes their little heads pop like balloons.

DeaH:fiddlehead: Diogenes: The group isn't the first to express its disapproval of Archie Comics and the Kevin Keller character specifically. In 2012, One Million Moms threatened Toys 'R' Us with a boycott because the toy chain is carried the controversial Archie Comics issue in which Keller tied the knot in a same-sex wedding.

Umm...One Million Moms is the AFA.

But I will enjoy watching some of the posters here explain why this isn't bullying, but posting a business' "we don't serve gays" policy on Facebook is.

Apparently it's OK to boycott big businesses for daring to acknowledge that gay people exist, but it's not OK to boycott small business owners for discriminating against gay people. Because big businesses can take it because they're big, while the poor, downtrodden small business owners will be forced to go out of business and live on the street. Or something.

It's not okay to boycott big businesses for discriminating against gay people, or at least for giving money for anti-gay legislation. Remember Chik-fil-A? No, the real test here, as it should be for all business decisions, is whether or not it's Christian. Not Christ-Chrisitan, mind you, American-Christian, which leaves out most of that pesky red letter part of the Bible.

Good point! It's OK for Christians to use their moral code to boycott businesses, just like it's OK for Christians to use their moral code to discriminate against gay people!