Attempted to avoid ITV commentary by going to the Lass o Gowrie in Manchester which advertised football in your own language. Sadly we got a seat in front of the big screen which they put ITV on but they had Spanish tv on a smaller screen which was 4 seconds ahead of ITV so everytime anything interesting happened the reaction of the other half of the bar told us what had happened before we saw it. Left at half time. WAFD

What a silly idea, the TV's in the Lass are really close together to IIRC, big screen hangs down near the toilets, pointing towards the bar, then 2 yards away (though pointing back down the pub) they tended to have the other. Chaos if your trying to show 2 different things.

Mind you, organization and the Lass do not go hand in hand. Quiz night in there invariably ends up in disaster.

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Put it on mute and go and do something else or change the channel whilst the ITV pundits are on tbh. Can't stand Chiles, find Southgate to be annoying and talk a load of rubbish, can't listen to Carragher's voice, Vieira doesn't seem to be paying attention half the time, Keane also annoying. Strachan not bad. Bring back Robbie Earle imo.

Being sober for an England match, I actually listened to the commentary, and honestly how ****ing embarrassing is Clive Tyldesley. His jingoistic outpourings, his fanboyism (Scott Parker was **** last night Clive, not some sort of demi-god collossus), and his just totally wrong reading of the game in England's favour. It made me relieved when Andy Townsend was talking, and god that takes some doing.

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Very well then I contradict myself,
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I think it says something about how bad the BBC are when it comes to football coverage that ITV are blowing them out the water despite the presence of Adrian Chiles and Andy Townsend in their team.

Yeah, indeed. BBC have been shocking. Endless cinematic montages as well, all of which are totally pointless.

So annoying that the BBC pundits change their tune every ten minutes as well. At the start of the Spain/Croatia match they said how Spain would walk it, then at half time they said "Spain a pale shadow of the team they were two years ago", before then at fulltime saying how great they were again.

Yeah, indeed. BBC have been shocking. Endless cinematic montages as well, all of which are totally pointless.

So annoying that the BBC pundits change their tune every ten minutes as well. At the start of the Spain/Croatia match they said how Spain would walk it, then at half time they said "Spain a pale shadow of the team they were two years ago", before then at fulltime saying how great they were again.

It's because none of them have a clue about any football that's not played in England, and quite obviously don't bother themselves to actually do any research.

Yeah, indeed. BBC have been shocking. Endless cinematic montages as well, all of which are totally pointless.

So annoying that the BBC pundits change their tune every ten minutes as well. At the start of the Spain/Croatia match they said how Spain would walk it, then at half time they said "Spain a pale shadow of the team they were two years ago", before then at fulltime saying how great they were again.

What's not to love about cinematic montages? Love 'em personally

Originally Posted by Jono

Mitch Johnson is ****ing awesome for cricket.

Originally Posted by pasag

Ponting's ability to ton up in the first innings of a series should not be understated. So much pressure, so important. What a great!