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Re: BA's Untouchable Prospects

Originally Posted by TRF

You mean he had power in college with metal bats? That almost never happens. Just like it almost never happens that a college power hitter has trouble adjusting to wood bats, or better pitching. You can say all he needed was just 1 HR to make his power numbers spike. Well, he didn't hit that 1 HR. He got hurt. So there is no way to say he'd have hit that HR the next day or a week after.

And don't flatter yourself. I don't call you out. I call them out... the player and the organization. They owe us far better than we have been given.

The guy is slugging .470 this year after spending 90% of it in the Florida State League (where he slugged .503 BTW). How many Reds prospects, or prospects in general have gone through the FSL and slugged .500? Its not a really long list. You are making BIG assumptions based on an extremely small sample size with Alonso's power and yeah, you did call me out on it. When you say

the results say Alonso doesn't hit LH pitching, hasn't produced any real power after leaving the league that suppresses said power, remember, like you said with Stubbs? We were supposed to see this spike in his power once he left the FSL. Never happened.

That is calling me out. And sure, we will never know what would have happened because of the injury, but the sample is so small that 1 simple at bat has the potential to swing a guys Isolated Power over 30 points. So to suggest it 'never happened' based on less than 1 months worth of at bats is not a good argument.

Re: BA's Untouchable Prospects

Todd Frazier is probably not a future Red now that hes probably going to be blocked by Rolen. I like Frazier a lot as a 3rd baseman. LF not really so much.

If we were looking to trade Harang and Arroyo what were the Reds back up plans? They surely didnt expect to go into next year with a rotation of Volquez (coming off who knows what type of injury) Cueto, and Bailey. Its clear Stewart was all but gone so I guess they think Maloney and Wood are options. They would have had to at least sign one starter.

What does this mean for Stubbs. Its pretty likely he wont be seeing the majors any time soon given the big time love for Taveras they currently are showing. Same with Heisey.

It certainly makes you wonder if we thought this farm was growing into a nice little factory or if they are going to continue to just toss out prospects like its candy when it comes to trades.

Re: BA's Untouchable Prospects

I'm not sure about the conclusions suggested above about Frazier and/or Stubbs or Heisey. One prime candidate for the LF spot was moved in the trade--EE, so that moves Todd Frazier up the list of possible LFers. People in the FO may, for all we know, rate him more highly than some here; he may be opening day's LFer next year. I also read the trade as Jocketty's just coming to the end of his willingness to deal with certain players, and he may very well come to the same point with Taveras, who still looks suspiciously to me a lot more like a Dusty Baker than a Walt Jocketty style player. I look for Taveras to be next year's 5th outfielder, if he makes the roster. And if, as I suspect, Stubbs is right now beginning to make his final minor league push, he'll be opening day CF in Cinti.

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