In Miami, some doubt Peyton wants to play with Marshall

Posted by Michael David Smith on March 12, 2012, 1:38 PM EDT

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Peyton Manning will surely want to play with talented receivers wherever he signs. But he’ll also want to play with reliable receivers who can be counted on to consistently meet his expectations. And in Miami, some doubt that Brandon Marshall fits that bill.

When Manning visited the Cardinals’ facilities on Sunday, Larry Fitzgerald didn’t only join the meeting because he’s a talented receiver. He also joined the meeting because he’s widely known as a congenial guy who works hard and gets along with his quarterbacks. That’s the type of person Manning will want to play with, and it’s fair to ask whether Marshall can be that kind of person.

Meanwhile, as everyone obsesses over Manning in Miami, things are changing by the minute. Sun Sentinel columnist Dave Hyde wrote on Twitter on Monday afternoon that the “Dolphins are out of the running for Peyton Manning, a source said.” After six minutes of furious re-tweeting around the NFL Twitter world, Hyde tweeted again, “Strike that: They are NOT out of the running. Dolphins are in the running.”

Expect the Manning stories to continue to go back and forth until he signs his name on a contract.

Here goes the media sabatoge again. Putting words in Peyton Manning’s mouth. And trying to cause a rift between 2 guys who have probably never met.

Just let the man visit, do his thing. The media won’t be making any decisions for Peyton Manning.

Obviously you people don’t have enough work to do. Stop speculating on every move. As for Marshall, has he not improved, straightened up? Surely Peyton has played with ‘difficult’ people over 14 seasons.

Every fool on twitter thinks he’s a reporter. Invent a story and say you have it from your ‘sources’. Your tweet will be retweetet by Breer, La Confora and other guys and then you are their ‘source’ and they repeat that s$#* on NFL Network.

Not that shocking. Manning wanted Harrison out of Indianapolis because he deemed him too narcissistic and a hinderance to their offensive scheming because he always wanted the big touchdown pass. That’s why noone else took a chance with Marvin- he was an introverted T.O./Randy Moss. If Marshall is just as bad, Manning won’t go there.

i dont think money is whats driving peyton….he’ll be getting paid wherever he goes, so a few million more or less wont be the determining factor. the guy knows the end is near and wants to win…..that probably wont happen in miami.

Like most, I was enamored with the idea Manning, but the truth is we need a young franchise type QB. Give me Matt Flynn to run Joe’s offense and the Bronco’s can have Manning. The two Matt’s in Miami are good enough for me…. GO DOLPHINS.

Arizona makes more sense to me the more I think about it. Denver has lots of money to spend, but something about working with the best receiver in the game, who’s also a great guy, with just enough gaps on the team to where several of his old crew from Indy could slot in, seems like a smart move. Add the dome and weather, and it looks like a good quality-of-life choice – surely an aspect of what he’s concerned about.

Some have said Manning wouldn’t want to be in the same conference as Eli, but in this case, why not? So they wouldn’t have to play each other in a conference championship? Better than the two of them playing in a Super Bowl, and just as unlikely.

Who knows? We’re all guessing, media guys included. On paper, just about any team makes sense (including teams like Texas, which already has a franchise QBs and shouldn’t be mentioned at all). Money probably won’t be meaningfully different, so it’ll be intriguing to see what matters most to Manning.

Welp, there goes any logical reason for him to go to Miami then. Come to KC where you have two beastly provenrecievers in Breaston and Bowe and one on the rise in Baldwin. We will take care of our o-line with our first round draft pick and Carl Nicks (crossing my fingers)

Marshall has BPD which has behavioral features like refusal of responsibility, compulsive pleasure seeking, tantrums caused by lack of ego support, delusional perception of his own behavior, and not being treatable with medication… so…..

that being said, I’m sure the Phins would let Peyton call the shots with receiver acquisition… however, if he goes to AZ… there is no issue to begin with….

Marshall difficult to deal with? Only if you are his wife and you stabbed him in the stomach. Oh, also if you are a QB and just hit him in the hands with a football and he dropped it. Oh, also if you quit throwing to him because he leads the league in drops. Oh, also if…. never mind, I guess he may be a problem after all.

Of course Peyton wouldn’t play with Marshall. Manning’s favorite target has to have shot someone. This story is pathetic. Meanwhile Vjax is gonna get a huge contract despite endangering people’s lives by driving drunk…twice.

Berardino’s column is garbage. What basis does he have for saying that is a factor in Manning’s decision? None! Just making stuff up as usual. Not worth wasting your time reading it. With garbage reporters like this covering the Dolphins, why would anybody want to come here…

Don’t be too picky, Peyton. Not every team in the NFL is going to bend to your every whim to surround you with top-notch talent the way Indy did (at the expense of their defense). Brady got stuck with schmuck receivers for years, then had his best season throwing to the biggest diva WR of all time.

Sure Marshall rubs people the wrong way but if you can’t work with him you can’t call yourself one of the best to play the position. Show some leadership.

Peyton doesn’t want to go to a team desperate for him, with tons of cap space, only to blow it all in free agency and have to develop chemistry on the fly. Go to a team with an established coach (Whisenhunt), an established #1 WR (Larry Fitz), and maybe one or two pieces away from seriously being a contender (if we add Manning that’s a left or right tackle).

Think about this: Peyton signs with Denver, media frenzy ensues, Tebow is traded/cut, Broncos spend big in free agency and basically have a completely new offense.

Whereas he can go to a media deprived team (not a bad thing in this case) like Arizona, relax in the warm weather, play in a dome, throw to the best WR in the game, and maintain and develop the relationship he already has with Larry and Whiz. It just makes too much sense and really, I’d be shocked if he goes anywhere but Arizona.

It might sound good to him at first sight, but in hindsight the most stable, best fit for Peyton Manning is in Arizona.

If the Dolphins truly want Manning, three people above and beyond the Coach/GM/Owner need to reach out to him. Those three people are Don Shula, Jake Long and Brandon Marshall. Marshall has a reputation that only he can dispel. He should be involved in a meeting and he should honestly discuss his “chemistry” issue. If he can show that he is motivated and excited by the prospect of playing with a great QB (without throwing his previous QBs under the bus) it will go a long way towards easing any reluctance Manning may have. I’m not saying he can do it; only that the chances are slim without it.

What is it with you guys? F Kevin Kolb.. you know what.. show up next year and play better.. Same with Alex Smith or Tim Tebow.. these GM’s and Coaches are about putting the best on the field not kowtowing to some sad ass signal caller’s feelings..

It was a typo u dumb writer! He meant to put “still” and stead typed “not” haven’t u ever typed the wrong thing…if u were a good investigative reporter u would have known it was a mistake…not the circumstances changing fast and furious like ur article reads….:-( bad reporting!

Didn’t they hang out at the superbowl together? Does anyone remember last month?

Also Marshall might have problems which he has admitted to and is working on everyday but Marshall has problems with some q.b.’s because believe it or not Marshall has a very high football intelligence. He knows defense and know what routes should be run against coverages.

Doesnt anyone here know anything about negotiations? Do you think if Peyton went straight into Miami without visiting anywhere else stating, “I only want to play for the Dolphins” That Ross would have to open his checkbook very far? He already said he doesnt like to play against Eli in games that could keep Elis team from getting to the super bowl. So going to the Cardinals is nothing more then the cheerleader who is looking to up her value for prom. Brandon Marshall talks are stupid. He was a great citizen last year, was a beast when needed, sure we havent forgotten what happened in the Probowl already when top QB’s look his way. The media is trying to let Ireland know that if they dont sign Manning that they will have had 3 failures in a row. (I dont count Fisher as a failure as hell he had so many losing seasons as a coach) If they do lose Manning or the Broncos drive up the price on him too high, so be it. you have to get a guy like that at the right price. You dont want to be paying for Peytons neck surgeries for the rest of his life after getting knocked out in game four. It is all so speculative that everyone needs to set there clocks back a day and just let it play out.

Arizona has one of the worst LTs in Levi Brown and he may soon be released. Unless they seriously upgrade the line Peyton will be on IR as the rest of the NFC West contains hard hitting physical defenses that can get to the passer. Kolb kept getting hurt because the pass rush got to him

Maybe I’m the only one but I think Manning is the one with the problem on his hands. I think his plan of setting teams up against each other is back-firing!!! If Denver and the Cards are the 2 teams you liked from the jump then whats with all the secrecy and confusion. Realistically the Cards team is not a QB away and they still have to deal with a tough 49ers team and they would be in the NFC like Eli. Denver has a great fan base but it drops off after that….what on earth could Elway tell Manning to make him go to a Denver team that doesn’t really have a legit #1 or even a legit #2 (Decker is too young to be considered a solid option) and did I mention NO legit rb(Mcgahee is on his last leg and moreno is still proving himself). Not only that you would have to deal with Tebow backlash as well as having the same agent in Tom Condon. If Peyton goes to either team he would have been better off retiring or staying with the Colts.

I just thought this would change the landscape of football, Peyton doesn’t look too cerebral right now. There has to be a dark horse out there and P needs to find them quick. Going to the Broncos or Cards is basically an irrelevant move.

Wow, I use to come to this site for football news, granted that is would come with bias opinions but at least you got some inside scoop. Now PFT is is trying to create a story off of speculation of some beat writer. How disappointing is that?! Would think that PFT would hold themselves to some kind of standards.

I’m not sure how you can say Denver has bad WR’s. How would anyone know? They’ve had Orton and Tebow throwing to them the past few years.

Fitzgerald is one of the best, but how about that OL? Manning has been under constant pressure pretty much since Tarik Glenn retired after the ’06 season. I imagine he would like to get a little protection. Denver and Miami both have better OL.

As a dolphin fan can we just have the dolphin brass shutup and stop the games. You want this guy bad enough set up a friggin meeting tell the “@&$) media and end this crap!! Sick of Denver this Ariz that Miami isn’t getting him now they are back in the running. Like a bunch of kids with this!! Finish this get him in or out and move your damn franchise on already!!

FinFan68 says:
Mar 12, 2012 2:03 PM
If the Dolphins truly want Manning, three people above and beyond the Coach/GM/Owner need to reach out to him. Those three people are Don Shula, Jake Long and Brandon Marshall. Marshall has a reputation that only he can dispel. He should be involved in a meeting and he should honestly discuss his “chemistry” issue. If he can show that he is motivated and excited by the prospect of playing with a great QB (without throwing his previous QBs under the bus) it will go a long way towards easing any reluctance Manning may have. I’m not saying he can do it; only that the chances are slim without it.

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It is not Marshall, Marshall already met up with Manning just before the SB. I seen one report saying that Manning prefers being with an established coach and owner. Miami has neither.

Newsflash: Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison hated each other…it was no secret so why does his relationship with his top WR matter? Marvin was on the record as saying he and Peyton never spoke outside the locker room but before every game they would practice the route tree..its all about professionalism. This is all just speculation and something to talk about…

As much as i DESPISE Brandon Marshall, his problems never came on the field or with his players. He just needs to keep his hands OFF women!

Manning was just seen boarding Ross’s yacht along with Marino, Philbin, Ireland, and of course, Ross. It’s been said they were going to “work outside the box”. They’re not going to the facility since the Colts used it during their SB appearance in Miami.

skiier4384 says:
Mar 12, 2012 1:52 PM
Not that shocking. Manning wanted Harrison out of Indianapolis because he deemed him too narcissistic and a hinderance to their offensive scheming because he always wanted the big touchdown pass.

If you were any more off base with this comment you’d be back on base. Marvin lost it – nobody else signing him is proof. Harrison was one of the most humble people in the history of the league who wanted NO attention.

@skiier4384
Can you name your source on Peyton wanting Harrison out of Indianapolis? Narcisistic? Marvin Harrison!? You’re worse than the media fools with your make believe stories. Peyton and Harrison were one of the best qb/wr combos to ever grace a football field. Why would Peyton want him gone? Why did no other teams bring Harrison in for a look? Possibly because of the shooting at his carwash in Philly? Research, think, post. In that order next time and you’ll save the internet from your garbage spewing.

I’m a Dolphin fan, but this whole thing is ridiculous.
There is no other conversation around, except where Manning is going. Can we get over it and move on, if he’s not coming here that’s fine.
Go and get someone else. It’s not as if this team stinks. I’m sure Matt Flynn and the Coach could get on just fine, and he’s much younger and healthy too.
No one has a clue if Manning is ready to do anything, because it’s all so secretive.

Is it just me or is Peyton about to become the new Lebron James, going from most liked to one of the most hated athletes because he feels he is bigger then the game with all his demands. He better hope whomever gets him he can deliver, fans a fickle.

marshal is a beast… he is the only top reciever besides fitz in all teh teams that are chasing manning…
cap space is a big issue in arizona so realistically he is the best target man available to manning…

manning can take car e of divas… i dont think that would be a problem for him…

Woudl manning want to play in same div as brady though? fighting for wild card every year…

I find this odd, as most camp and practice reports generated by the dolphins beat writers note that Marshall works as hard as anyone on the team. He often stays late to get in some extra time on the jugs, especially when he had the case of the dropsies. He Manning turns down Miami, it’s not because of Marshall’s lack of work ethic.

So just so I’m clear; Peyton Manning doesn’t want to play in the NFC, much less the NFC East, and he would prefer the perfect owner/organization/GM. Okay. Oh, and he doesn’t want a lot of media coverage bothering him in the area and there had better not be any ‘divas’ or players with BPD on the team. Got it. Oh, and he’s probably going to need you to tailor the offense or let him be his own OC on the field. Sounds pretty reasonable don’t ya think?

jfibertkc says: Mar 12, 2012 1:57 PM
Welp, there goes any logical reason for him to go to Miami then. Come to KC where you have two beastly provenrecievers in Breaston and Bowe and one on the rise in Baldwin. We will take care of our o-line with our first round draft pick and Carl Nicks (crossing my fingers)

Beastly proven receivers Breaston and Bowe and Baldwin on the rise?? Wow, I have officially heard it all

Bottom line is no one on here or even the blessed Bloggers ( new name for Reporters) know a damn thing. It is ALL speculation! The only thing that does make sense is Flynn and Henne will be signed quickly and that will mess the dynamics of the whole PM drama. Money is not the issue because every Team will pay him what he wants. Some have to work more creative Cap financing than others. Quite frankly the only Teams that really make sense are the 49ers and Texans. Neither has much interest. Denver would be OK, but not enough weapons and AZ makes sense until you figure it is just Larry Fitz and no one else and no Cap money left for balance and protection, in factthey have to dump Vets to make room for PM!

This reminds me of when Joe Montana went to the Chiefs. It is kinda sad. I wish him well, but no matter where he goes it is going to be a struggle to get to the Super Bowl. Any real contenders have solid QBs already and not desperate for 1 piece of the puzzle except Houston and SanFran. Case Closed!