Sitting in the same boat and brainstorming which hardware is the best way for my pocket. Saw a few videos and I think KNC is safe and nice and they can be delivered at october. Problem with BFL is the delivery. Sure, they say december. But I think it will be more like next year, maybe first or second quarter or so But this PCI card is realy nice... Damn i want that.

Did you checked Hashfasts BabyJets? They also coming in october. 350w for 400G, but price is 5600$.

I wouldn't touch BFL again with a 20ft pole - I placed an order with them over a year ago and i am still waiting for delivery. I expect my 60GH/s miner to be useless by the time it finally arrives. And that is despite paying only $1300 for it.

When you buy a preorder from any one of these companies you are essentially trusting the management skills and organisation of the people at the helm. The only thing BFL have proven is that they are incompetent to the highest degree - with $10m of preoprders they manage to run out of simple components, cases, capacitors etc which are readily and freely available in the market.

I have a KnC Jupiter due for October - if it arrives before Christmas i will be a happy man and KnC would have beaten the pants off BFL.

As was said above, the Monach only exists in their minds. I am sure they think it will be a piece of cake to manufacture and i am sure they will be beset with a multitude of problems that otherwise wouldnt have existed had they stuck with a standalone form factor.

As a mining noob myself, I learned the hard way about the ASIC powered difficulty increase. Since I started with GPU mining in May, I've seen a four-fold increase in hash power at my pool and a corresponding increase in difficulty making ROI all but impossible on my mining hardware (2 7950 GPUs, 35 block erupters and 2 BFL Jallapenos not yet received).

I am now into group buys as this represents the current best GH/s/$ values. The latest one I joined was drillbit system which provides 7GH/s/$100 for October delivery. Personally, I wouldn't touch any October buys returning less than 5GH/s/$100, and I don't care to even speculate on December. Just remember for ROI time = money.

As a mining noob myself, I learned the hard way about the ASIC powered difficulty increase. Since I started with GPU mining in May, I've seen a four-fold increase in hash power at my pool and a corresponding increase in difficulty making ROI all but impossible on my mining hardware (2 7950 GPUs, 35 block erupters and 2 BFL Jallapenos not yet received).

I am now into group buys as this represents the current best GH/s/$ values. The latest one I joined was drillbit system which provides 7GH/s/$100 for October delivery. Personally, I wouldn't touch any October buys returning less than 5GH/s/$100, and I don't care to even speculate on December. Just remember for ROI time = money.

Just to make sure if someone is still in doubt. NEVER BUY FROM BFL.UPDATE: as well as from AVALONsummaring: NO MORE PRE-ORDERS PEOPLEI would buy even from BFL with instant delivery. Fuck no with pre-order.KNC is still unknown thing.

Use money to buy bitcoins and wait the dust ( difficulty ) to settle. After ASIC I don't foresee any new technology on this filed.Probably after some months only the good one companies will survive and prices will adapt to reality

As a mining noob myself, I learned the hard way about the ASIC powered difficulty increase. Since I started with GPU mining in May, I've seen a four-fold increase in hash power at my pool and a corresponding increase in difficulty making ROI all but impossible on my mining hardware (2 7950 GPUs, 35 block erupters and 2 BFL Jallapenos not yet received).

I am now into group buys as this represents the current best GH/s/$ values. The latest one I joined was drillbit system which provides 7GH/s/$100 for October delivery. Personally, I wouldn't touch any October buys returning less than 5GH/s/$100, and I don't care to even speculate on December. Just remember for ROI time = money.