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When Gohan was yelling at his father inside the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to stop holding back and train him correctly, he knew how important it was to get stronger to fight Cell. He knew he had to become a super sayajin. It doesn't make sense for him to do that, and then not what to fight when it was his turn in the Cell games.

Originally Posted by Jb

He's still referred to as "Teen Gohan" though.

This didn't make sense. He was 9(?) years old, and 11 in the dub, and neither of those ages make him a teenager.

When Gohan was yelling at his father inside the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to stop holding back and train him correctly, he knew how important it was to get stronger to fight Cell. He knew he had to become a super sayajin. It doesn't make sense for him to do that, and then not what to fight when it was his turn in the Cell games.

He did say he was afraid of his power when angered. Raditz and Freeza can certainly testify for that.

By the very end of dbz gohan stopped training so goku might be stronger in his ssj3 form

Maybe when Goku is fighting Uub he's stronger but its not proven that Gohan ever lost his 'Ultimate' state or if you can get even stronger once you past SSJ3... Your power level wouldn't be going up by the millions anymore

Maybe when Goku is fighting Uub he's stronger but its not proven that Gohan ever lost his 'Ultimate' state or if you can get even stronger once you past SSJ3... Your power level wouldn't be going up by the millions anymore

Just throwing this out there:
the poster for the upcoming movie, which is supposed to be canon since Toriyama is working on it and all, Gohan is shown to be Super Saiyan...
So, either Toriyama and company forgot about Mystic/Ultimate (which is entirely possible), or Gohan lost the ability to go that far for some reason

Just throwing this out there:
the poster for the upcoming movie, which is supposed to be canon since Toriyama is working on it and all, Gohan is shown to be Super Saiyan...
So, either Toriyama and company forgot about Mystic/Ultimate (which is entirely possible), or Gohan lost the ability to go that far for some reason

Even though Toriyama is working on doesn't mean it's canon even if it takes place after Buu... A movie is a movie and the canon universe is the manga which Toriyama finished a long time ago. He is more influencing and guiding this project than writing it.

Maybe when Goku is fighting Uub he's stronger but its not proven that Gohan ever lost his 'Ultimate' state or if you can get even stronger once you past SSJ3... Your power level wouldn't be going up by the millions anymore

But even if he didn't lose hus ultimate state. He most likely lost power becasue of 10 years of no training

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I think you mean Bulma. And I don't think the battle would have gone that well. Super Gogeta is strong, but Super Sayian 4 Gogeta is way stronger. If he was Vegito, then it'll be a different story. Maybe he would have won if they were Vegito.

Yea, speaking of which. How do you guys liked Kai compared to the original?

I don't mind Kai. We get to the action quicker, which is always a plus, and the voices are much, much better this time around than with the original FUNimation dub of Dragon Ball Z. Unfortunately, I was exposed to the dub through 4KIDS, so I got to see the monstrosity that is Blue Popo. And it took forever to get past the Ginyu Force, and even then I started to lose interest. Seriously, they started over to the beginning at one point, which didn't help at all. Freakin' 4KIDS...

Shocker: I have of yet to actually watch the Dragon Ball anime. We have up to season six of DBZ, but not Dragon Ball--if only because Mom probably won't be very happy about it than she is with DBZ. I have read the entire manga, though, so that should make up for it.

Also found out about Battle of Gods about a month ago. Once I saw the poster, I said to my friend and brothers, "I call it: the twist is Bills is Monster Carrot who managed to become a god and seek vengeance against Goku." Then I looked it up and realized Bills is based off the sphynx cat, and not a rabbit like I thought he was. Crap, that would've been a neat twist...

Oh well. I'll go ahead and watch the movie when it's subbed/dubbed. Should be interesting to see where they go with it.

I don't mind Kai. We get to the action quicker, which is always a plus, and the voices are much, much better this time around than with the original FUNimation dub of Dragon Ball Z. Unfortunately, I was exposed to the dub through 4KIDS, so I got to see the monstrosity that is Blue Popo. And it took forever to get past the Ginyu Force, and even then I started to lose interest. Seriously, they started over to the beginning at one point, which didn't help at all. Freakin' 4KIDS...

There are Uncut DVDs that are worth the price (if you're willing to pay).

I think i'm one of the few who actually do like dbgt. but it is not canon at all and i heard akira toriyama had very little do do with the production of it as well. It really just depends on the person as with most things, whether it was to your taste or not :P.