It seems to be more used in the U.S. thankfully than the U.K. and for those who do not know, the initials stand for Person of Colour.

My feeling is that it is racist, or...it is used by idiots in a way that makes racist

My reasoning why...unlike many of those who use this term, I have travelled beyond my keyboard. I have worked and travelled in/to places where seeing a white person is like a lottery win, a very rare thing.

Two points if I may, I would not go to a country such as the Sudan, Bangladesh, Burma and start saying "hey, I am white, I am a minority, you need to accomodate me or I will start shouting you are racists" or "you use black, brown, yellow privilige", one it's stupid and you sound like a child, two it would be incorrect and three, well it would be just simply rude

The second issue I have with POC is that those who use it, do not see white as a colour, they simply refuse too. So if someone refuses to recognise colour, are they racist ?

The way round this is to be honest and say "I am racist because I refuse to accept white is a colour"...or...simply just stop using a stupid word that enables division by colour rather than cohesion.

I edited that to show where I think you hit the head on the nail Nancy

Both you and I are old enough where we fought to remove labels and see people as people. My freinds weren't my black friends or my asian friends or my chinese friends ....they were my freinds at school

I do remember and I have bored people with this before, when I was in infant school it was unusal to see coloured people because of where I lived and this was in the late 60's, come the 70's and sure more different people started to live where I lived.

Then in senior school (age 11-16) they were our friends who happened to be northern, asian etc etc and when the national front started using protests trying to influence the young, in many schools in our area we told them quite politely to "f*ck off"

This wasn't "the white man with privilige".. I was 13 ffs and came from a poor family and all of us.... of ALL.... colours, stood to refuse racism in our schools, we didn't need a particular colour or label to know it was wrong. As friends we simply said NO

Now, apparently people are smarter, they use smart phones, more people than ever are going to college and uni .....and yet it is almost as though we have gone full circle to the 50's and 60's, where some still use terms of colour to divide us but now it's for no other reason to receive "likes" on our social media feeds as to make them feel personally good about themselves being an "activist"

Terms like POC are the politics of stupid racist people who need to keep us divided for their own agenders...as you rightly say Nancy...maybe we should just refer to people simply as...." people"

It was racist now it's not I guess? The term colored people is racist, put poc isn't? It's so goddam confusing. I feel I cringe everytime I have to use it in a sentence because it's such an outdated term. Isn't ethnic minorities/racial minorities better? I mean as a half jew I feel absolutely excluded by modern pc movement because we're basically white people and they don't consider whites a real oppressed group. It's like what are we? You're white but a minority. I remember coming across someone on reddit calling us Schrödinger's Jew because it's like we're in some purgatory according to modern politics. If your skin ain't brown, you ain't oppressed.

Lord Grep wrote:OH crap, am I going to get in to trouble on post number two?

No worries. You would have to do something pretty horrific to get in trouble here at Apositive. Worst case - I will edit posts that cross the line and then PM the member to explain what I did and why. I ban spammers, not members.

Excuse me, you are British person from one of the biggest imperialist, thieving powers on the planet and you are actually trying to argue that non-whites are the racists and moral transgressors?

Wat...

I took history class and i'm sure everyone around the worlds been racist and conquering civilizations since the dawn of time. Racism stems from protecting/seizing territory and fear of the unknown, which animals do all the time. Basically what i'm saying is everyone is capable of bigotry because fear, mistrust and hatred been around for eons.

Ciri , I was told you were member4445 and all the evidence showed you were the same person , in a single thread with you and myself in AVEN, you said you were called Claire by a workmate, but you said you were not Claire . You said your boss has started calling you Claire . I called you Claire in another later thread and you called me Bob. LOL So I know you are not Claire.DON'T take Greps threat to go to a meet-up too seriously, unless you held it in his town, he is restricted to a mobility scooter. So we all have problems.I have a problem with being told what to do and say, this is because I spent 11 years in the Military so you conform, anyone can do that if they pay me. But in private, I bristle and revolt. This is not personal. DON'T set rules and I'm fine and civil. To be perfectly honest, in AVEN meet-ups the subject of Asexuality has never been raised or even mentioned, ever.