[15:11] FireFox Bancroft: Izzie over there is a good demonstration, she's still (Loading...) to me

[15:11] JS Streamwechsler-HUD: whispers: Warning, it appears that the land here is owned by someone else, or group owned. You will need to use the subwoofer, deeded to a group, to use the Radio TV on group land.

[15:22] Kelly Linden: I personally think if the impact is low - if it is rare - we should ship with the bug then ship the fix the following week. But that is just my opinion and a big "if" which is what I think Oskar is asking for help on judging.

[15:22] Oskar Linden: Iwell it's our decision to make. I'm asking for your input on the depth of this bug

[15:23] Oskar Linden: if you guys can help me with that great, if you want to argue on the point of shipping it you're not helping e

[15:38] Latif Khalifa: proposal 1) make a phase 2 sim, 2) make open enrollmnet group for it, 3) shoot an email to scriptiers and openource mailing list explaining the pitfalls and what should be tested. My guess is that most imporant testing would be mobing between legacu <-> phase1 makes no problems, and phase1 <-> phase2 the same.

[15:50] Jonno Stromfield: I'm having problems keeping up with changes - even though I'm online most days, hit the forums regularly and try to turn up to these shindigs on occasion (not as often as I'd like).

I was flying around Burning Life and hit a no fly region 10.10.25 IIRC - and I crashed. New behaviour isn't it, forcing an already flying av down. I can't find it any release notes, but I may have missed it.

Is this a "bug fix" or a bug? And what does a body need to do to keep up these days? is there somewhere specific I can go to see all upcoming issues ahead of time?

[16:00] TankMaster Finesmith: in vwr 1.23, if you have the admin menu open, you can fly anywhere also

[16:00] Kallista Destiny: Considering that ALL new users gets Viewer 2 shoved down their throat, I'm not surprised. Many people find the V2 userinterface to be very painful (e.g. the little icons in the local chat window )

[16:00] Flynn Tigerpaw: the dim menu text makes is so hard on the eyes... ouch!

[16:01] Jonno Stromfield: As soon as they get rid of the right hand panel - I'll migrate permanently

[16:01] Oskar Linden: you have two choices then, try to help make vwr 2 better or use something else which ensures vwr 2 won't get better

[16:01] SHAMUS Carter: the mesh client is not that bad they did atleast fianly add the docable tags and swapable side on the side bar

[16:03] Marigold Devin: But if everyone was forced to user viewer 2 for a week, it would be interesting to see the feedback and statistics

[16:03] Latif Khalifa: Oskar, I have been on since pre-alpha in sept last year. Issues pointed out by that test groups are still not adderssed, and every day incredible stubbornes of LL is showing. So take that "not helpful attitude" moniker and keep it for your self.