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So interesting that Hasbro goes shiny chrome and Takara goes old school. I like this version much better and have pre-ordered 2 from TFSource.com. The figures are also listed on BBTS.com and are a dollar cheaper than TFSource. I went for the free shipping when ordering two as it was $151.90 through Source.

I figure this is a solid investment and would rather put my money into a well thought out old school homage than what Hasbro will be giving us. December cannot come soon enough for this great representation!!

Now to Amazon to cancel my Hasbro edition pre-order. Reprolabels could jazz up the Hasbro version but cannot cover up that stupid shiny chrome.

Looks way better than the Hasbro chrome version. But I still cant seem to pull the trigger on this mold. I hate that fake cockpit and stupid out of scale Macross jet mode. Im waiting on that Mech Form Sky Guardian.

Still some great upcoming figures for this year. Why is it that Takara has the better paint schemes then the Hasbro releases? Maybe of course it's because either Hasbro is lazy at times, or they just have some bizarre choices. Still, the US versions of Jetfire and Sky-Byte look decent With a few exceptions, I'm really liking the Generations line this year.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.

See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.

Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........

Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.

See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.

Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........

A pearly white would make Takara Jetfire 100% worth the asking price, IMHO.

Cyberpath wrote:Why is the Takara version much more expansive than Hasbro's?

I actually prefer the Hasbro version this time, it's slightly more cartoon-accurate.

If the stock pics are accurate and not open to further changes it looks like it will follow the exact color apps found in the box art.

See the stripes patterns on both chest panels (R and L)? The apps on his front shins. His sigils now have white borders and the armor have the black paint apps. And it looks like no chrome.

Being Japan bound, maybe this changes are Tomy's justification of a "slightly" higher SRP. He also might have a different colored plastic like the Japanese Drift had a different white from the Hasbro. I said "might" though.........

A pearly white would make Takara Jetfire 100% worth the asking price, IMHO.

I don't know what shade it will be, but I'd bet that the Takara version will use at least slightly different color plastics. They almost always do, sometimes subtly different and other times dramatically so, but it's almost always at least somewhat different.

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Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

I am puzzled as to how each of these Legends toys look to be the same size. Leo Prime and Optimus Primal use the same original molds and original ultra sizes right? So then which mold is that classic optimus from? It looks like the Deluxe Classics Prime but he was much smaller. And the movie optimus looks like the one step optimus but once again that size make me scratch my head as to what toy this is and if it was actually ever released before. Can anyone help?

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william-james88 wrote:I am puzzled as to how each of these Legends toys look to be the same size. Leo Prime and Optimus Primal use the same original molds and original ultra sizes right? So then which mold is that classic optimus from? It looks like the Deluxe Classics Prime but he was much smaller. And the movie optimus looks like the one step optimus but once again that size make me scratch my head as to what toy this is and if it was actually ever released before. Can anyone help?

Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Mindmaster wrote:Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Mindmaster wrote:Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Mindmaster wrote:Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Mindmaster wrote:Generation One Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal, and Lio Convoy are from the Robotmasters line over in Japan back in 2004-ish, and were all scaled to one another. They're roughly Deluxe-sized. The Optimus Primal and Lio Convoy you see in those images are NOT the Ultra-ish figures originally featured in their respective lines, but scaled down versions.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

I'm debating what will be the least "problematic" Optimus Primal to go in my Classics Beast Wars collection. The upcoming reissue of the original Ultra figure, which is bigger than voyager Rhinox, or this reissue of the Robotmasters figure, which is quite a bit smaller than Voyager Rhinox. I'm leaning towards a large figure, which would at least scale Primal properly with Cheetor, but then he'd be too big for Dinobot. Ugh...such a headache.