Hey all, got a weird issue I just noticed so I thought I'd ask around here, see if anyone knows this to be a thing or what.

My PS4 is running 5.0 software. I have it set NOT to automatically download system updates. I hate when my devices update themselves without me explicitly knowing about it.

Just now I fired it up, and got a notification that software 5.01 was now available - AND DOWNLOADING!! I scrambled to check my settings and sure enough - the option to automatically download system updates is DISABLED. So WTF!?!?! The download completed and it was "preparing to install update" at which point I powered down, but it appears to be trying to finish the installation first. I yanked the ethernet cable in the hopes that this will at least stop it from completing an install before I understand why it's ignoring the settings.

Anyone else seeing their PS4 system update when it's been explicitly told not to? I see lots of people on the web talking about how it auto-downloads game updates, but I'm specifically talking about system updates, not game files. Thanks!

So according to Reddit, it's because I auto-login to PSN on startup. Apparently any attempt to log into PSN will automatically force installation of any pending system updates. Then why give the option to deactivate them?!?!? GRRRRRR.

Why wouldn't you want to update to the newest update? It fixed some issues in the 5.0 update.Plus you cannot get online for anything. Also, even tho the system downloads the update, it WILL not install it until you click on the waiting to install thing. So if you don't click on it, it will not even actually update.

Yeah I finally figured out that while it did the download, it didn't install without my permission. That was what had me so pissed off. Since the feature is specifically called "Automatic Downloads" and I explicitly UN-checked "System Software Update Files", I would expect that it would not automatically download system software update files. Full stop. "Do not download" doesn't mean "Download but don't automatically install". Anyway, ultimately I can live with it the way it is... but the menu labeling is deceptive.

It's not that I wouldn't update, I almost certainly will (and absolutely will the next time I want to go on PSN). But I don't *ever* want my devices updating without my knowledge or express consent at the time of the update. Tell me it's available, and let me push the button to do it. Downloading against my express instructions, is not cool IMO.

> Why wouldn't you want to update to the newest update? It fixed some issues in the

> 5.0 update.

> Plus you cannot get online for anything.

> Also, even tho the system downloads the update, it WILL not install it until you

> click on the waiting to install thing. So if you don't click on it, it will not even

> actually update.

You can still play online in some cases I guess. For example, system update 5.01 had downloaded for me weeks ago, but only a couple of days ago did I realize it and allow it to install. I had been playing online and using Share Play in the mean time. I think if I had let it get to like 2 updates behind, then maybe it wouldn't let me connect anymore (I think 3DS does that too).

Oh interesting... I thought it was more draconian than that. Good to know! I've learned the hard way over the many years, NOT to update my devices (including computers) just because there's an update available. Unless there is a compelling feature/bug fix that I need and care about, I don't risk messing up what works.