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Re: Impact of Cam Newton Scandal

I'm not saying he is dirty but I notices Chizzle is already publicly stumping his integrety.
In my 50 years of experience when an individual has to tell me how moral, ethical, or religious he is, that is a huge red flag that they are not what they claim to be. Just saying. FWIW

Re: Impact of Cam Newton Scandal

Originally Posted by intrepid27

I'm not saying he is dirty but I notices Chizzle is already publicly stumping his integrety.
In my 50 years of experience when an individual has to tell me how moral, ethical, or religious he is, that is a huge red flag that they are not what they claim to be. Just saying. FWIW

And the angrier and/or more insistent the person is.........

This is going to go down hard. Just a matter of how and when it finally has its full explosion.

Re: Impact of Cam Newton Scandal

"Anyone that knows myself, my wife, my family, they know that we are firmly entrenched here in Ames," Chizik said. "We love this university. We love who we work for. We love this football team. We love this community."

We all know this is a man of character. He would never lie about something...

Re: Impact of Cam Newton Scandal

The only problem with this ordeal is that you need some hard evidence that Cam's father actually solicited funds from Miss. State.

At this point it sounds like Miss. State was jilted. Just a lot of hearsay. If Cam is guilty, then he is guilty. But it seems really strange that all these allegations are coming out AFTER he has had all this success. Hell, signing day was way back in Feb. so I am wondering why something didn't surface last spring.

Call me skeptical. But if the allegations are indeed true, then Miss. State was agreeing to pay money and got outbid for Cam's services by Auburn. If that is the case then they should produce the evidence of it, instead of just accusations.

Re: Impact of Cam Newton Scandal

Originally Posted by Stormin

The only problem with this ordeal is that you need some hard evidence that Cam's father actually solicited funds from Miss. State.

At this point it sounds like Miss. State was jilted. Just a lot of hearsay. If Cam is guilty, then he is guilty. But it seems really strange that all these allegations are coming out AFTER he has had all this success. Hell, signing day was way back in Feb. so I am wondering why something didn't surface last spring.

Call me skeptical. But if the allegations are indeed true, then Miss. State was agreeing to pay money and got outbid for Cam's services by Auburn. If that is the case then they should produce the evidence of it, instead of just accusations.

Sports Illustrated actually did an interview with the Newton family a couple of weeks before this news broke and it quotes Cam as saying he wanted to play for Mississippi State, but he let his father decide which school he should play for and his father picked Auburn. If you connect the dots, that's why the figures make some sense, since Cam wanted to play for Miss. State, they would have to pay $180,000 and why Auburn would pay $200,000.

Re: Impact of Cam Newton Scandal

He makes a good point that the NCAA will have little choice but to act at some point because of the future implications of failing to act.

This is why I dislike the media. This guy is clueless and is making accusations into fact. Wait until the FACTS are out. Right now here is what is out

Newton commits to Auburnon 12-31-09 after a final three of OU, Auburn and MSU

MSU turns in allegations of misconduct to the SEC in January not long after they lost out on Newton. The SEC reviews the claims and the SEC didn't feel the info was credible

MSU turns in more information in June and then the SEC turned the info over to Auburn and the NCAA.

NCAA pursues an investigation a month later

IMO- few things could have happened...1) Newton was down to OU, Auburn and MSU. One of those teams doesn't fit and it is possible that Newton or his dad said the only way he would go to MSU was for $$$. 2) MSU lost out on a recruit and have sour grapes so they took a rumor and ran with it. 3) Newton pimped himself out to the highest bidder and Auburn won. None of those three would surprise me at all.

Personally, I think it is odd that MSU turned in info in January and then came back 6 months later with more info. Did they have the info in January and withheld it or did they investigate further? Why the 6 month lapse? It is also intersting to me that this just got leaked a few weeks ago after Auburn had some success.

In any event, the FBI is now involved so there will actually be a legit investigation and not a sweep under the rug by the NCAA.

Re: Impact of Cam Newton Scandal

This is why I dislike the media. This guy is clueless and is making accusations into fact. Wait until the FACTS are out. Right now here is what is out

Newton commits to Auburnon 12-31-10 after a final three of OU, Auburn and MSU

MSU turns in allegations of misconduct to the SEC in January not long after they lost out on Newton. The SEC reviews the claims and the SEC didn't feel the info was credible

MSU turns in more information in June and then the SEC turned the info over to Auburn and the NCAA.

NCAA pursues an investigation a month later

IMO- few things could have happened...1) Newton was down to OU, Auburn and MSU. One of those teams doesn't fit and it is possible that Newton or his dad said the only way he would go to MSU was for $$$. 2) MSU lost out on a recruit and have sour grapes so they took a rumor and ran with it. 3) Newton pimped himself out to the highest bidder and Auburn won. None of those three would surprise me at all.

Personally, I think it is odd that MSU turned in info in January and then came back 6 months later with more info. Did they have the info in January and withheld it or did they investigate further? Why the 6 month lapse? It is also intersting to me that this just got leaked a few weeks ago after Auburn had some success.

In any event, the FBI is now involved so there will actually be a legit investigation and not a sweep under the rug by the NCAA.

Because Urban Meyer is a very petty man and doesn't like seeing other SEC teams have success.

Re: Impact of Cam Newton Scandal

You really need some hard evidence. Just "hearsay" is inadmissible IMO.

Let's say it is true, then the truth will come out eventually and you take the Heisman away from Cam and Auburn forfeits all their games.

But what if these allegations are all false? And Miss. State just has sour grapes about being jilted. Then a young man's entire career and reputation is ruined over a baseless allegation.

Sorry. But I refuse to convict an innocent person on hearsay. I want hard evidence. If Cam got cash, then there is a paper trail somewhere.

And if Auburn didn't pay but Miss. State was planning on paying, then Miss. State should show their own paper trail. Of course, Miss. State would then indict themselves on NCAA infractions as they are then a dirty program.

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