Full comic nerd rant mode: Comic villains have a legacy that go back decades. Use Brian Banner, Zzax and Absorbing Man separately if you want to use them all. Don't scrunch them all into one character, make him Bruce's father and call him "David Banner" because awww... TV series nostalgia!

No Ang Lee, don't fall on your sword. For what you knew at the time this was a decent effort. Just because people loved fun Avengers Hulk doesn't mean he could have carried a whole movie back then. That hulk has the advantage of short doses and no real story to tell on his own.

Decillion:No Ang Lee, don't fall on your sword. For what you knew at the time this was a decent effort. Just because people loved fun Avengers Hulk doesn't mean he could have carried a whole movie back then.

Decillion:No Ang Lee, don't fall on your sword. For what you knew at the time this was a decent effort. Just because people loved fun Avengers Hulk doesn't mean he could have carried a whole movie back then. That hulk has the advantage of short doses and no real story to tell on his own.

Sooo what about 'The Incredible Hulk' with Norton? That was a 1000 times better than Ang Lee's version.

scottydoesntknow:Decillion: No Ang Lee, don't fall on your sword. For what you knew at the time this was a decent effort. Just because people loved fun Avengers Hulk doesn't mean he could have carried a whole movie back then. That hulk has the advantage of short doses and no real story to tell on his own.

Sooo what about 'The Incredible Hulk' with Norton? That was a 1000 times better than Ang Lee's version.

Watch it again. Norton is an improvement as well as the Hulk CGI (but not quite right yet) Betty and Thunderbolt are a step down. Better villain too, I'd say. At best, it's a B- where Hulk is a C-.

Guess I'm in the minority here, but I thought Ang Lee's Hulk movie was fantastic. The character was explored better than any time before or since, and the drama between he characters was truly touching. Plus it was hilarious to watch all the moms who'd brought their young children have to jump up and leave with their kids when it got too intense.

CygnusDarius:Am I the only farker that actually like The Hulk movie? It was good, c'mon!.

It looks like there's a few of us here. I haven't seen it since release, but I liked it at the time and don't get all the hate. But I'm not an obsessive comic book fan. I liked the Norton movie, too, but it felt redundant and unnecessary in the same way the new Spider-Man movie feels redundant and unnecessary.

Decillion:scottydoesntknow: Decillion: No Ang Lee, don't fall on your sword. For what you knew at the time this was a decent effort. Just because people loved fun Avengers Hulk doesn't mean he could have carried a whole movie back then. That hulk has the advantage of short doses and no real story to tell on his own.

Sooo what about 'The Incredible Hulk' with Norton? That was a 1000 times better than Ang Lee's version.

Watch it again. Norton is an improvement as well as the Hulk CGI (but not quite right yet) Betty and Thunderbolt are a step down. Better villain too, I'd say. At best, it's a B- where Hulk is a C-.

Umm, no.

The CG of the original Hulk film is quite good, once you get over the color (he actually has pores!). The Norton one has better color but is very plastic looking and doesn't blend as well. Lee's Hulk is too bright green but he still looks like he's actually there on location.

And as ridiculous as the concept it, the CG hulked-out Poodle's animation is very well done.

I didn't think it was awful and I enjoyed the scenes with Hulk tearing it up in the desert quite a lot. The two two big problems with The Hulk:

1. They should have began the movie with the Hulk and then told the rest through flashback. Takes WAY too long to get to the big guy and I would rather have a good scene, maybe with him partially shadowed to reveal more later, but a good action scene, or at least a little tease with the Hulk to get the mood going.

2. The poodle. Come on.

If you think you can't tell a good story with the Hulk, ask Peter David. I'd personally love to see a movie featuring "Mr. Fixit" some day.

But there he went, making the Absorbing Man Hulk's father somehow? That was just guaranteed to piss off the only built-in audience, plus it made no goddamn sense whatsoever and diminished the whole drama of Banner vs. Hulk vs. Humanity.

It was a badly conceived college film class quality story, which is unforgiveable since there was so much source material already there for him to use.

Come to think of it, there's really good story potential in a movie where Hulk somehow in the course of the movie gets some of Banner's smarts. What he'd do with that power. And, like all comics, they could bring back the rage monster at the end.

Here's the thing about Ang Lee Hulk. When he's in the desert and a helicopter shoots a missile at him and he catches the missile and throws it back at the helicopter and it explodes you hear a crackle of radio static and a voice saying "we're ok."