Witches of Eastwick is not a phenomenal program for Mirai imho. She can skate to anything, but whomever is choosing her music is not doing it right, choose something that will blow everybody else away. Dang it, she HAS the goods, but what she needs is the right piece of music, and this year's programs just don't cut it imho.

I would LOVE to see Mirai skate to the "White Swan" for the SP, and then turn it on for the FS and skate to the "Black Swan". Show off her versatility! S-H-E can skate to anything!!!!

But here, she was just okay, which is saying alot because no matter what she has the look. Still, if you don't bring it you don't get the marks, as it should be. She's got to skate clean with no bobbles and little glitches here & there. Therefore, I'm not surprised that Rach came ahead of her, as it should be.

People underestimate Rachael imho, she's got joie de vivre to the stars!!!!! And she skates with lots of passion, conviction, soul. Also, her jumps are getting better & better, must be from training alongside Agnes Zawadzki whom pushes her & vice versa, now Rachael's 3lutz is BIG, as well as her 3F!

She just keeps getting better & better & better, working at it, just like Miki has, proving it's never too late to improve and become the best that you can be.

ITA about Mirai. I think she sold the music well tonight but I've always said she deserves something much more inspiring. And yes, I think she can skate to anything if pushed.

If Miki skates tomorrow like she did in nationals, she will score over 130, based on what she got today in the SP(she got 64 for her SP at nationals, which was clean, like the one she did today. Here she got 66.)

If Miki skates tomorrow like she did in nationals, she will score over 130, based on what she got today in the SP(she got 64 for her SP at nationals, which was clean, like the one she did today. Here she got 66.)

Good point. I can see her getting a 130+ if she skates clean and gets the GOEs she got today!

Why are the judges so in love with Ando? She has nothing but jumps going for her. In between her jumps she does nothing no interesting choreography nothing. I guess reputation still means a lot in this sport.

Why are the judges so in love with Ando? She has nothing but jumps going for her. In between her jumps she does nothing no interesting choreography nothing. I guess reputation still means a lot in this sport.

Well not really, she didn't really do that well last season. While she won her grand prix events and placed second in GPF, she was only 4th at Japanese nationals, Fifth at the Olympics and Fourth at Worlds, so clearly the "reputation" did not help her there.

That said, she has been the most consistant skater this year, save her GPF SP. You may say she only has the "jumps" but I think she deserves those +2 and +3 for those jumps . I guess the PCS is debatable, but I don't really feel like Miki is getting titles by reputation.

And the fact is today, she and Rachael were the only ones in the final group to come away without any URs or edge calls or negative GOE.

Why are the judges so in love with Ando? She has nothing but jumps going for her. In between her jumps she does nothing no interesting choreography nothing. I guess reputation still means a lot in this sport.

I know. The scoring of Ando this whole year has been a joke. It it things like Miki Andos scores this season which erodes any credability of the sport. No wonder figure skating is almost dead, since even a casual observer can see the farce of it sometimes.

What! You two are always Debbie Downers when it comes to Miki & Rachael, you guys just won't give them a chance, you've already tried & convicted them without a fair trial imho.

Have either of you even bothered to see the new & improved Miki at 4CC? Hmm, I thought not, otherwise you two wouldn't be saying such things...Miki was honestly sublime...her posture, fingers, hands, arms were amongst the best of the best tonight, as well her jumps are always BIG & HUGE....so no surprise there. But she's also improved her spins ~ lovely, low to the ground, elegant. That's what she's become now, an elegant young lady, no longer just that jumper from the past when she first started out. Now she is an honest to God all-around skater!

And Rachael, OMG, Rachael, she makes me cry with her joie de vivre, especially tonight! When she's on she's in another world, a mythical magical creature, free & unrestrained! And her jumps, OMG, her jumps are truthfully twice as big as they used to be, most likely from training alongside Agnes Zawadzki. Complete, fully rotated, correct technique, right now amongst the very best of the American woman. And that's the truth! Well deserved scores!

What! You two are always Debbie Downers when it comes to Miki & Rachael, you guys just won't give them a chance, you've already tried & convicted them without a fair trial imho.

Have either of you even bothered to see the new & improved Miki at 4CC? Hmm, I thought not, otherwise you two wouldn't be saying such things...Miki was honestly sublime...her posture, fingers, hands, arms were amongst the best of the best tonight, as well her jumps are always BIG & HUGE....so no surprise there. But she's also improved her spins ~ lovely, low to the ground, elegant. That's what she's become now, an elegant young lady, no longer just that jumper from the past when she first started out. Now she is an honest to God all-around skater!

And Rachael, OMG, Rachael, she makes me cry with her joie de vivre, especially tonight! When she's on she's in another world, a mythical magical creature, free & unrestrained! And her jumps, OMG, her jumps are truthfully twice as big as they used to be, most likely from training alongside Agnes Zawadzki. Complete, fully rotated, correct technique, right now amongst the very best of the American woman. And that's the truth! Well deserved scores!

I totally agree with you, but I find it pointless to try to debate/argue/discuss with people who have already made up their minds.

That said, I totally agree with you with Miki. Her jumps were solid and her spins were very much improved. And I sense a fire/passion in her that I didn't see from her last year.

Did you even bother people to watch her? Her spins are way better then they were in the past and deserved those high GOE, not to mention her jumps which are always high and big. And she actually skated this program artistically well too. She deserves avery single GOE she's been getting this season but that's true that PCS are a bit too high.

Did you even bother people to watch her? Her spins are way better then they were in the past and deserved those high GOE, not to mention her jumps which are always high and big. And she actually skated this program artistically well too. She deserves avery single GOE she's been getting this season but that's true that PCS are a bit too high.

I think the PCS was pretty close here, not like Japanese Nationals where she was like five points higher....I would say maybe down a point or two. But I think she still deserved to be first on TES alone.