I have been a Burner for 4 years now. This year will be my 5th Burn.I think sparking ideas in the community will be the best way to get the event to continue to grow. I want to share my ideas and hopefully get discussion going on ways that we can expand.

I feel Burning Man has seemingly outgrown Black Rock city. We need to find a way to expand beyond the border of the Black Rock desert. I think this can be done by purchasing an island.

I imagine BMORG purchasing a desert island off the coast somewhere. We could then use that land to host our city and event.The island should be deserted with no indigenous people. Lush plant and animal life is necessary since us Burners are used to the barren lake bed.According to http://www.privateislandsonline.com/ there are numerous islands that are available for sale.

If necessary BMORG, couple build some permanent infrastructure like a seaport and an airport. I think it would be essential for the growth and maintenance of the community to have as little permanent infrastructure as possible so there is room to development adapt and change and the community continues to grow.

The event could still embody leave no trace. Everything could be packed in and taken out by the participants of the event.

I think we have a large enough community that participants could develop transportation plans.

I think the logistics would be much more difficult than you think. First getting across the country to near the island, then getting from the gigantic car park, unpacking your stuff from the car then packing it back up again on a boat and going across water and unpacking your stuff again when you get off. Transportation will actually be more difficult and more of a bottleneck than it is now. We've already out grown that island. How many people do the NYC and Seattle ferries move in a week? How much infrastructure does that take? What is the cost?

And that's before some drunk or high person starts climbing cliffs or falling into the water...

The Lady with a Lamprey

"The powerful are exploiting people, art and ideas, and this leads to us plebes debating how to best ration ice.Man, no wonder they always win....." Lonesomebri

it'd all be solvable, Fishy, with a fleet of Simon's "hover bikes"........maybe we could train ex-Navy dolphins as "water sherpas" to get our stuff across, and, get a contingent of Mormons to pray for pelicans, to bring extra water in those big beak sacks?

Of course, it'd be all vegan cuisine, except for "New Guinea native night".

Ygmir is gunner and Throttle Molly is throttle operator. She will be along shortly to discover her duty in this conflict. Golficus Carticus has a hand throttle and brake. It is necessary to have a throttle operator so that the driver can hold a beer and steer with one hand.

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motskyroonmatick wrote:Ygmir is gunner and Throttle Molly is throttle operator. She will be along shortly to discover her duty in this conflict. Golficus Carticus has a hand throttle and brake. It is necessary to have a throttle operator so that the driver can hold a beer and steer with one hand.

While I try to think of a snappy reply to that, I have this picture that somehow came to mind after reading the original post. No real relevance -- I just have not had an opportunity to use it for a while.

motskyroonmatick wrote:Ygmir is gunner and Throttle Molly is throttle operator. She will be along shortly to discover her duty in this conflict. Golficus Carticus has a hand throttle and brake. It is necessary to have a throttle operator so that the driver can hold a beer and steer with one hand.

and the other hand, then, does what?

Clarification: The driver steers with one hand and the other hand holds an ever dwindling beverage that can be replenished from the on board cooler. Due to the fast pace the driver must at least steer.

Black Rock City Welding and Repair. The Night Time Warming Station. iGNiTE! Bar.

Card Carrying Member BRCCP.

When you pass the 4th "bridge out!" sign; the flaming death is all yours.-Knowmad-

motskyroonmatick wrote:Ygmir is gunner and Throttle Molly is throttle operator. She will be along shortly to discover her duty in this conflict. Golficus Carticus has a hand throttle and brake. It is necessary to have a throttle operator so that the driver can hold a beer and steer with one hand.

and the other hand, then, does what?

Clarification: The driver steers with one hand and the other hand holds an ever dwindling beverage that can be replenished from the on board cooler. Due to the fast pace the driver must at least steer.

ok, thanks..........I was having questions, and not pretty pictures*, in my head.

motskyroonmatick wrote:Ygmir is gunner and Throttle Molly is throttle operator. She will be along shortly to discover her duty in this conflict. Golficus Carticus has a hand throttle and brake. It is necessary to have a throttle operator so that the driver can hold a beer and steer with one hand.

ygmir wrote:and the other hand, then, does what?

Clarification: The driver steers with one hand and the other hand holds an ever dwindling beverage that can be replenished from the on board cooler. Due to the fast pace the driver must at least steer.

ygmir wrote:ok, thanks..........I was having questions, and not pretty pictures*, in my head.

depending on anyones POV of course

I assure you that it's a very natural and beautiful part of the desert biosphere . . . the flowing tide of Tecate. The roar of the Throttle. The smell of Danger. The barking of C187.