quote:Actually, maybe we need some clarification from the OP. Are we talking about theory or what happened in the 20th century? If the latter, then the OP just asked a clown question.

OP wrote:

quote:Been reading up a lot about 20th century history, and the bits about the October Revolution, WWII's Hitler v. Stalin component, and the Cold War got me wondering about the Poliboard's views on the fundamental problems with communism.

Seems he was not writing and reading about political philosophy but was about history so I'll go with the latter and not the former. latter, base

re: What is fundamentally "evil" about communism IYO?(Posted by RCDfan1950 on 11/20/12 at 6:50 pm to PenguinNinja)

quote:What is fundamentally "evil" about communism IYO?Been reading up a lot about 20th century history, and the bits about the October Revolution, WWII's Hitler v. Stalin component, and the Cold War got me wondering about the Poliboard's views on the fundamental problems with communism. Go.

Uses violent government coercion to confiscate the labors of extra-productive individuals, in order to mitigate the consequences due those who are immoral, lazy, envious and civically irresponsible. Societal prosperity always increases the latter group; as it takes the Collective for them to cut it. Alone, or in small groups...they'd go away. Our get shot trying to steal by their smarter and more industious prey.

The inspired and productive in a Commie system lose their motivation, as they watch the slackers and pack them on their back, and the GNP goes south. And the slackers do what they always will...live poor...and whine about it. Just that they won't have to be envious...since everybody will be equally poor. Until the strong realize they have been duped...AGAIN...and pull the Atlas Shrugged, and get things going again.

Now you can call that cycle "evil", and it would be, on the part of the ignorant and sinful envious who game the system...as well as the narcissist, high-minded, demogougic power mongers who do the same game, but in order to gain 'spiritual' status even while they live above the material *equality* that they deem just for the multitudes. After all, they deserve it...standing up for the 'little guys'.

Of course, you could just call it human societal experimentation. Takes a few reps to get the process down. Then again...Evil narcissists and slackers will be with humanity always. So...enjoy the drama!

"Evil" is about as subjective of a term as the word "greed." What I would say is undesirable for me in communism is complete subjugation to the state. Supposedly Communism is suppose to be a stateless social order, but I've yet to see it, at least on a large scale.

quote:People do things because it gives them pleasure, no other reason.

People voluntarily help other people because it pleases them to do it. People work because it gives them a sense of satisfaction. It's all self interest, but self interest can and often benefits others.

I disagree. It actually is the exact opposite of evil, but that is only in theory.

Human beings are flawed which makes the implementation of communism impossible. It is a utopian dream which is unobtainable, no matter how many times people say, "it just hasn't been implemented correctly."

It cannot be "implemented correctly." It is even more of a pipe dream than a society based upon complete freedom.