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Sunday Live: Human Trafficking

are you playing and welcome to Sunday night right here on this ABC 1 I’m your

host also that become all too weak all the second until the 9th of October 2015 as National Human Trafficking Awareness Week of the crime of human trafficking is being committed in South Africa but you too is hidden nature most organizations have thought it very difficult to quantify the crime but according to a tweet to 127 million people are in bondage across the world with victims as young as 12 years old but up until August 2013 South Africa

could only prosecute for human trafficking with it was sexual exploitation of course for the first time a law is now available providing for the protection of autocratic persons irrespective of age or gender this includes trafficking for labor purposes for the removal of body parts for forced marriages any other form of exploitation stone indeed while before we get into our discussion this evening let’s take a look at this took so much advantage

because they paid for their time two things really hate when they do this today daughters they had a daughter we did I appeared to it and beat up and you know jack daniels on those who is just two years cream we do that to you own daughter to the women kiss you are women and children that woman humanity don’t you see that in me and I may get my question to you this evening is will this new law that we’ve been talking about this new

traffic in law be effective in combating child trafficking or you can sms years on 02 the number three 4065 you can join the conversation on our social media pages on Facebook were sunday live on bbc1 tweet back Sunday live is se VC one of calls and you can treat me personally I T underscore what would want and don’t forget to hashtag sunday life is joining us in our johannesburg Studios is the NPA’s advocate college guy Galaga be senior deputy director of public

prosecutions and in our Cape Town studios we have trafficking survivor result a bomb and from an organization that seeks to abolish the injustice in the 21 century we have corner unit from a 21 and also have an audience of the University of Johannesburg students who together with the International Organization for Migration launched back in 2015 that awareness campaign welcome everyone thank you so much for joining us and thanks to you

capetown studios advocate caller thank you so much free time for anyone who wants to understand what human trafficking is so there could be a part of this conversation constructively what is human trafficking what is it you know sort of like your body human trafficking is a growing global phenomenon where people are being transferred I’ve been sold by being released

being transported from one place to another it can be within the borders of South Africa across boorda this happens through dis leaving those people forced to the end through legal means to get the people from one place to another for purposes of exploiting them for labor chewed by the organized sexual exploitation this also involves the adoption of children for the purposes of exploiting these children are also

entering people into marriages for the purpose of exploiting these people which will of course benefit the particular person was involved in the trafficking or any other person was close to that post these cases in South Africa research shows that you know South Africa’s only ever convicted seven people for trafficking you know since 2009 of the first conviction of course was in 2009 for sexual expectation but since then leading up to 2015 and how

many cases are reported in the country we have about 10 in seven cases there are reported well I cannot say reported specifically because some of them might still be with some switch the National Prosecuting Authority would not have private but the cases that have come through to us have been about 27 cases and offers cases we have about 13 convictions to date other cases are still privately held in we’ve

received two other cases as well in which we have child in accordance with in you know I’m mentioned in my opening that you know there’s a new trafficking law of course since August of this year that’s been introduced by the Indian government take me through the context of the contents of the law basically it’s to realize the rights of people is enshrined in the Bill of Rights to reinforce the

right-to-life the right to human dignity the right to freedom of expression and security of a posting for people not to be treated in a degrading and inhumane manner that is that seeks to be done by the trafficking of persons and also for us to carry out the mandate of the United Nations protocol with South Africa signed in 2004 had made a commitment to prevent and combat human trafficking the grain so now this law is basically to realize that and to ensure

that the citizens of South Africa and even those were transported into South Africa legally for purposes of being exploited they there is protection for the head of an auto market also used to sell to welcome to you once again not you have you know as a very personal story to share with us regarding your experience with a traffic in just briefly tell me you know what traffic was for you enjoy experience these bands of Hurricane you know in that two weeks

I was surprised that it was done through by a friend that I really trusted and secondly that to you xscape was obviously another person had to come into my place and she was much younger so when I got the chance to get out of the house ways of confusion our way should I tend to what should I do because it was at midnight and just being pulled up with drugs because that’s all they fade you is to be so

high so you don’t have the power to fight back of every man that comes in and do whatever they like to you in my two weeks of being there I think the only thing that I could sense with was feeling and smell in a day it would be nine to ten men and and you know coming out from there the first thing I wanted was another pics and from there was from the age of 18 to prostitution and there was no way

to turn to because you you you knew that you go to the police station you come from hands of being explained to try to negotiate police station gonna say that you as young as you are you on the streets at that time of the night in your high they not gonna listen to your story I was never rescued by anybody sadly I had to be rescued by a younger girl which is something I still you know really

and get myself in sometimes when I think about the sound of her voice that i sometimes I wish I could have taken her place and being a survivor of six or seven years out of that it’s it’s it’s hard to see that justice is still not taken in 10 and what we have to be goes through as survivors to get that justice to happen because it’s like you need to still be in the room of air traffic and you still don’t get the assistance from from social justice system that ok you

can certainly be protected you still gonna be rescued in a way of freedom motion really mentally so it is a hi Jamie 4582 to come out of because you know our justice system and rape cases load not just rape cases on its own you walk around community the president raped you still walks around you so for me as a survivor coming out from that it’s like I hope for me to be set free

because you know the acts of justice law in our country doesn’t really its day it’s written it’s it’s a nervous latest rated out of there but it’s not really taking action it’s not it’s not taking action very very keen to know from corner of course when we come back from the break as to why of course this crime is a lucrative sort of commodity we know that after drugs and weapons human beings are actually lucrative commodities fights criminal activities

are concerned in human trafficking but only when we come back and I mean we just want to help you all see the truth Africa that human trafficking is real in the country but after the break I expect to hear more from you call me on 0117 14 8080 sunday live returns you have just joined us we are discussing human trafficking and please share experiences or opinions on this matter on 0117 1488 of course by my

panelists and out to welcome back wonderful yoon Eun ah que tal studios or not before the outbreak I wanted to find a forum view as to why human trafficking as such as sort of a prob profitable legal criminal activity we do understand that is the third most lucrative illegal commodity after drugs and weapons why is that so apparently believe that it’s due to the moment to have someone else’s cell someone for someone else’s personal

pleasure now this thing is with a drug you can actually only sell once and then it’s been used but traffic is see that you know by selling a human being over and over they making actually more than what coca-cola and McDonald’s make in one year so it’s very beneficial or profitable for them and the risk of actually being caught they measure very low compared to the amount of money that they make and also to do to you know younger younger people or the young

learners of today on as educated about human trafficking therefore it’s easy for them to fall prey into this this injustice cool human trafficking according to some of the statistics of refunds on date when one door which is of course the organization that you represent is that you know twenty seven million people in bondage across the world due to human trafficking victims can be as young as 12 years old and he’s wanted two percent of traffic victims

ever get rescued please take me through those steps at the moment due to the month 99% victims never gets rescued because of the drug overdose that they get hardly get any nutrition you know their everyday life to function you have to look at this perspective of the average amount of men a victim has to service is 40 min a day and for someone to go through that physical

abuse their body will more or less and you lost two years and then on the flip side one to two percent of traffickers that ever get sentence is because victims are too scared or survivors are too scared to actually speak up because the traffic will actually threaten their family and their household by forcing or forcing them and saying I will kill your family so it’s it’s a very manipulative industry or crime organized crime that traffickers are involved and so that

makes it more tricky to actually put traffickers into jail if you look at the 27 million there’s more than 27 million in slavery today and others the half the population of South Africa and if you listen to that you need to realize that that is not okay we have to speak for those with no voice and I think it’s one step at a time by making someone else where you can actually prevent someone from being trafficked yes it’s sometimes hard to reach those that are trafficked

at the moment but if you can educate youngsters of today saying hey this is what human trafficking as this is how you can protect yourself and these are the hotline number should confine we already helping someone not being trafficked back to audience members now I need to hear your comments ago views on this matter especially because I’m sure you’ve heard the same ladies and gentlemen that in Africa takes a village to raise a child actors read on one of

those emissions there to your children should just trust anyone but you know we also have this African saying that it takes a village so if a child falls in a random at all can pick them up and we can take that as an adulterer being a parent in that instance but but is this basis to trust today in one with a comment please come into question my name is Linda Lucia edta and strategic communication we worked on the human trafficking campaign

last year and what we found out is there a lot of people knew about human trafficking but they had this perception that would never happen to them so I think that’s the biggest problem that we found that you don’t everything that could happen to you or that it could have been to someone you know that trust issue comes in there where you think everyone has a good person and everyone is trustworthy because it just won’t happen to you I have a Christian Bible

study at the University of Johannesburg strategic communication I have a question for the Advocate was brought in in August to try and come back to all these victimizers anybody’s traffic now my question is what steps are you taking in creating the salinas as I heard you made little mention that this week is to create awareness around human trafficking and the knife et the second in the ninth not many people we

love the salinas it’s not as big as any other like accountant campaigns what steps are you taking for people to be aware of this in order for them to know and how to educate them further basically we’ve got in other provinces as well but I’m going to speak specifically on the housing one because I’m involved in their own way it is amounted to the superior coach we have all organizations and government departments who are involved there on

our weaknesses in campaigns throughout the province surreal and gives people take when finding out that the is this thing of human trafficking around them in the area and also for people to realize that it doesn’t only happen outside but it happens when they are so that is what we have and as well as we got out on radio television and so forth we speak about human trafficking we’ve been involved in

a lot of shows making eyewitnesses on human trafficking a short break and when we can that be engaging one more time of course with our panelists and audience members in solutions to moving forward we already know of a second to the month of october is human traffic awareness week so all South Africans and everyone around the world would be able to you know educate themselves and be aware of this very very real crime I’m keen to know more from 801 and advocate caliber

are barred steps moving far from the npr side and from a 21 is an organisation but we’ll be right back welcome back to Sunday life are here on ABC want my name is duly noted widely and of course we discussing human trafficking am very keen of course you know how you feel hard you you know regard this as even a real issue in the country or not he’s continued of course are posted on our Facebook page we are

sandy levin is ABC 123 Act II underscore hashtag sunday life is and of course engage with us visit missus on 3406 live that to all is a brief comments on this issue especially because you know I know that as you know students of the University of Johannesburg you are involved directly involved in raising awareness in the comments before peace and music from the most people are vulnerable because they are ignoring others are unusually like talked about

this last year when we’re working on this campaign doing research in the townships and everything like when we asked why they know about human trafficking is like it’s something that happens in the movies they don’t really know what is it yeah I think there are like they see things happening around town by bare on talk about that is very important

that’s obviously my name is Ashley save strategic communications doin every investor joins big legacy that based on the research that we did last year will be working with I M I we found out that people some people know about human trafficking especially in a community that I’m living in there was actually a house we people would be taken from their countries like Zimbabwe or Mozambique and the house was just like

it looked like a white elephant house but there were people inside the relieving the PLO passports they know software numbers there’s no less selfish or anything it was men children with 112 RDP house so I’m just thinking that the neighbors knew that something was going on but for them to report a noise with my please we came up with you know what you can save somebody’s life imagine this was your disposal assorted room everybody has a dream you know out

baby I wanna go to the states our love go to the UK so this philosophy a dream that you gonna go to South Africa even aware you gonna be this famous person leaving sent in you know so imagine if you lose your sister who was told that you in a living in New York in the league at the integrated stack why don’t why don’t you just go to like your nearest police station and tell them that something is happening thank you so much and head back to Cape Town

Cornelison environment I just please get your closing comments resolve this stop with you because I mean you have experience in this very sensitive issue but what would join advised be too young people in South Africa preview please my voice would be I know at the age of 12 to 16 we get very excited about what we want to do in our career we get very excited social media has been like their hand of food and everything so youngsters should

be very very careful on social media model agencies and once again you know if government say they are doing this thing I think it’s good for them to partnership with organizations that are doing this that will be doing it in the community has a lot of organizations are in the community most based so being partnership with them would be great again young people your greatest friend would do this to you because

you know jobs are less in in our country now youngsters don’t have jobs are too great to see anybody can come through to them and say listen if you can get me this girl four to five five thousand yeah your friend or anything and just like they drink by taking them any clubbing especially our VIP club would do that okay thank you so much canal very previous office we know that you took a

march as the future also seen on our screens right now where you took him at his age when you wanna fought against us but I’m briefly what is your organization sort of give support systems to the victims of victim once they’ve been rescued and we place them in a safe house where they can actually start their rehabilitation program they can actually get placed back into society they can do their courses on what they’ve wanted to always become we

have many success stories of young ladies that’s been rescued all around the world and they’ve actually now become a nurse or they’ve become a teacher and it’s really empowering them true to be back to life back in society and live the dream that they have so much of a solo homers while the market task to you as well let’s briefly take a look at our poll result we asked you the question do you think for you and law has been introduced of course by

government advocate in to support and protect anyone against human trafficking will be effective while fifty percent of the vote of no and 50% it’s calling a literally in one second your partitions all we want is right communities must stand together report human trafficking the actually makes it an obligation on each and every person to help architects of human trafficking that are happening around them so it is not only on the health of the officials and without the

assistance of the community’s society lives we are unable to do anything even for them to come out and wanted to testify we’ve got all forms witness protection available to protect witnesses who have to testify the table did Department of Social Development his green houses where people are being hidden away from the testicles and it is quite protective so basically we do have protection for people to come

fourth is what I thank you so much thank you to all my case in Cape Town thanks to you our audience members but most importantly thanks to your home for watching until next Sunday

initiation rituals have prevailed throughout the history of mankind and in

many African communities this rite of passage plays a very important role in an individual’s life that practice officer transition from boyhood to becoming a man and its during this period that boys are often exposed to communities customs and traditions but so very often the transition into men who has become synonymous with they’re paying in some cases even torture yet South Africa now from capetown studios we are joined by professor Capano and

expert in violent masculinity professor Capanna thank you for joining us again or even masculinity is always at the forefront of our problems in South Africa isn’t it isn’t it refers to but I wanted to talk about the cultural dynamic around the initiation schools in a death we seeing when we look at cultural when we talk culture culture is quite a a dynamic in living thing surely we can find a balance 22 to curb the deaths of young men in South Africa do

you know you know when I be listening to this morning’s interviews but also thinking about this and really in the newspapers the phrase black lives matter has come into my mind maine’s lives matter just like women’s lives matter and antimatter 30 deaths from what is supposed to be a wonderful experience and experience that Marx once transition from being a boy to a man this is unacceptable I mean basically you know the question that we now ask is is is

this is relevant is this doesn’t mean culture is static they the first the answer to the first question is is of course we’re always being initiated in one way or no education and Western education or education of the evidence was schools is nothing if it’s not the initiation twelve years of initiation sixteen years in some cases when you start with police cool and then you still have to go to varsity

education is about initiating people in particular ways of thinking so initiative schools about that about initiating men in particular kinds of masculinity is so this is always necessary but death death is not necessary why in South Africa do we have to we always seem to have a connection between violence and masculinity it’s a long long history in its history that’s not gone by its very much present today

is because of a host of reasons including a militaristic culture it’s about our histories of violence under the national liberation struggle yes but also certainly under apartheid and colonialism it’s about fractured communities about families don’t have a role models who model peaceful masculinity is it’s about drugs it’s about inequalities about poverty so it’s a whole lot of reasons working at different levels

level 1 course if you study with with the psychologists of this so some people can’t control their impulses they’ve learned emotionally regulators to say in a right up at the top of policies policies that always consistently indicate that violence is not an acceptable way of handling solutions and complex but clearly we live in a world where a number of countries Syria Afghanistan

Iraq a number of reasons all over the world where you see that violence is seen as a way of resolving political problems but also interpersonal problems at this initiation schools we always hear stories of abuse some of them even torture if this is the the process takes you into man who’d be breeding men that that that that except that they have to go into the into their world with a violent outlook there are two possible question one is i mean in any in any

particular structural system like this where where you’re trying to initiate main your fine ass last two times blames all kinds of characters that do not and cannot be entrusted with initiating and men in two men who have that illegal schools that people will torture because they don’t know what they’re doing all they need is to be paid at the end of the day they need money so you have to deal with that you have to do to deal with it but by the way before I continue

have to see this is this particular program this morning is fantastic because you need spaces like this you need space like this when you bring doctors initiate people run schools and people like me who will comment on that from from a perspective masculinity of violence so you need to speak and and deal with people who are hustling because they want money and they are not know no good reason to be to be close to me so that’s that’s that’s the one that

the one particular reason we have we have to underline this and then you have to move for what how do you do you begin to to make the schools what they initially intended to be which is it too much movement in the young man’s young men’s lives into into adult but first I wanna be controversial for the sake of being at but I think we’ve had part of this discussion going forward if you can hear me is it time for us to to to to structure the the process of

of becoming a man in South Africa little bit better and maybe even opening a 22 other races I think it’s a wonderful way to build trust and understanding yes yes I agree I think we spoke about this previously and we have said this earlier when we speak about this particular reason I mean there are things that have to remain sacred I’m I’m as I said I always say that there’s a there’s a good reason to have secrets families have free cigarettes if you don’t have

secrets in the world the world will not function well I’ve said this before but here is this thing that can be beautiful and I have had experiences from maine was the main man from a baby bodysuit mean I’m sort of myself for going through this practice although I have not gone to distract myself because I think somehow I don’t want to put my life in in in the hands of people who don’t know anything about who don’t know to reconcile the the old ideals of

bringing boys into men who with the present ideals that continue no constitution and powers of that part of what you are asking is can’t this be used as a moment where you could you bring different groups different different cultures to to learn from these cultures where where this practice is is is experienced and is engaged yes I think so I think not only people on possible also people who are well-known black can be brought into

into into the embrace of this culture because if you get a good teacher even get a man who has thought about this review reading about some were also working with doctors who have been doing this for two scores of year so an eighty nine men who has never lost a life you need that mean you need to know what they do if I could have a chance to to learn even at this age from men like that i’ll be i’ll be a better man for it so you need men like this but I should

say this again but the question is can you bring these the practice is there the learnings you have initiation schools in into a conversation with the July deals such as I mean fundamentally have you have this thing about equality equality is an important ideal in our country and you need you need you need to bring to bring equality into conversations with what is taught in in this thank you for free runner time looks like you’ve run out of here yet if

you’re hearing aid is well but always fantastic to talk to you part is I think we need to we need to change the way we think about what makes us so that we can within the wider context and suffered thank you as always for joining us at professor akebono right lol talking about of course we were talking about the rite of passage masculinity finalists

South Africa and welcome to Sunday live right here on SABC want my name is

tomorrow more toward riney I am host and sincerely apologize for starting a program late evening however media earlier reported that the deputy minister of higher education and training Minister to do the montana released shocking statistics that revealed that about 31 percent of students in further education and training also known as apt Cottagers were HIV positive when he addressed students the toilet or if you to college

in Luxembourg back in September if the statistics are correct then it means that HIV prevalence rate among students and young people generally would be nearly four times the national estimate of 11.2% over you know is World AIDS Day theme for 2011 to 2015 is getting 20 however this year South Africa will focus on zero discrimination without losing sight of the other 0 such as the road you HIV infections and zero aids-related deaths

that is our discussion this evening before we get into it produces and gives us a glimpse into the lives of those living with HIV and I went to the country issues going every year but I didn’t know what was happening so I found out when I was a great for the meeting to present to the wait is closer to me it was I could say is great for me to understand what was really hav because they tell me about them because I’m not gonna die just

gotta have house that’s when I understood that it means also infected hens reading about HIV in school so it was that had time I that positive and keep in touch is gonna look at me and say I’m gonna die first I didn’t accept it wasn’t until I was great so when I wasn’t great see you then I went to the clinic and they told me that I had to accept before I can go to my parents or anyone else hmmm positive I was right

1998 they called me but I find out what a positive cannot use it anymore said did not go to hospital especially coliform because that time multicolor form and then I went and they test me and that’s when the trial neighborhood teenager and not going to have in their relationship when all those things like

it was painful for me clearly that why does this mean to me this evening is all the hiv/aids prevention campaigns in effective amongst the youth is amazed you’re so no to the number three 4065 can call us live in studio on 0117 1 480 809 you can also engage with us on our social media pages on Facebook we are sunday life honestly BC one you can treat at sunday live SABC 1 or tweet me Act II

underscore quilted lining and don’t forget to hash tag sunday live in studio with us of course is the kind of my body’s senior manager at love life the love life style and school also joined by four you limbs when you who is treatment action campaign provision assistant on status of women were also joined by a studio audience was here with us of course to engage on our topic is almost dead even for joining us thank you so much please welcome to something

like that kind of like to start with you and i want to ask what you think about the poor question do you think that with the high statistics that we have according to the Deputy Minister of Higher Education and Training that reportedly forty-one percent of our students are infected with HIV is a Jew to the ineffective awareness campaigns than we have in the country not exist I think some some of the interventions they do it and they have been waking but

looking at the TV day colleges it has been like more neglected because I can speak from love live side what we’ve been doing it’s what we call you things to browse more of campaigns so is the programs are not so intense as compared to young people within primary schools and high schools so they’ve been that as an additional three young people in the transition transition from primary high school to TV colleges eggs

maybe we have given them the benefit of the doubt to say they know they are like grown grown out sort of but there is still a gap in terms of intervention that a TV technologies and I’m other contributing factors easy access to 222 care treatment and support because most of the typically don’t have the facilities their care facilities within the within these days they area where they’re not figure you are from treatment action campaign and he also

the provincial assistant then you are under you know the status on women we’ve also seen two women sharing you know these a story around how they’re infected and what their life’s journey mean what are some of you know the statistics are on the infections on young women in South Africa as much as we try our level best to educate young women especially own production company got a program which we call it is a rich and fertile reproductive health and

rights retry level business trip election campaign to call over an hour in politics great whereby we educate in-school and out-of-school young women we are with education that we are giving I think we are trying to reach with the high rate of HIV right bad there is a problem because at some point we are faced by our government in terms of prevention the attempts by the US two counts in our local clinics and for people to access both treatment it’s a

challenge because you cannot go to actually treatment that is not pay remember some of those kids are in school in this statement discrimination amongst themselves because in most cases it’s hard for academy to tell your child that she was born with HIV so the indication that we’re giving today let us it’s about to get in and kissed my question to the going is with United’s theme of getting to zero and South Africa’s vision for this year being

there discrimination do you think that’s achievable I think there’s zero discrimination is it is achievable yeah because looking at South Africa from where we are coming from this lot of improvement in terms of stigma and currently when you look at the situation all those think my still day there’s some improvement in different communities way yet people if you are HIV positive is like you should get diabetes or any other chronic conditions

and people love freely interacting with their families and it disclosure is improved people do disclose to their family members yeah yeah and they know ledge on hiv/aids increased in most of the community so they’ve got better understanding to say HIV is not that interesting is not infections like you need to be not sharing it ended with somebody who’s infected you don’t have to share food together so people have

good knowledge and analogous improved although we cannot see we have enough knowledge yeah I don’t disagree with the minute he sees as much as 33 happy simply next week got issues young cute when they have to access the treatment influence the attitude of nasa’s because they had in Vegas program whereby the integration of various within our clinics with my older person should sit next to the other person to relax and it will be hard for the 10% to accurately

treatment because the is integration yes you are correct integration but they separate of rooms also plays a crucial role because when you go to train explosion public clinics will find that the most people who should actually care he’s there is only one room for them if possible all clinics can make sure that you can take in their room you access everything that had the contraceptive in all medication that hype Latin stuff I

think the discrimination while the discussion we are having tonight on Sunday live what we’ve heard of course foreign media reports said 41 percent of all youth and students account of HIV infections of the country’s a Jew to in effect of campaigns going to hear from you 11714 8380 but only when sonya live returns Sunday last night here on CBC one we are talking about the high increase rate of

young for the africans be affected by HIV were asking you the question if you think it’s due to the effect of complaints that we have in the country or is there more to the story will you can assume is yes or no to the number 443 654 qualified live in-studio of course on 0117 148 understand we do a call on the line welcome just lost all corner hi welcome to Sunday life difficult on the line W

you know hello so you comin please welcome to spend a lot of money alright we’re just going to have to cut you off there please make sure that when you do call switch off your TV or turn the volume down so you can hear me on the phone numbers or 114 114 each do it but if we take it back to our audience members is there any question or comment that it would like to think it’s good evening and thank you for the opportunity

my name is Lisa immigrant breakup president I’d like to say that can use not encouraging young girls and young women that there is life after high school because now after that they cannot get into university or tertiary while they struggle with that they feel free to sugar daddies and all the mean paying for whatever it is that they need but they must know that they are organizations like the love life so I for one have been helped by love life

alot in my life so they should know that there is hope there is some way you can turn to you don’t have to go to university or tertiary you have other options you can actually find your passion organizations that create an HIV free generation because at the end of the day these are the people that bring HIV to these young men and a positive on two other young people thank you would like to perhaps comment and also just talking

on white more young people are vulnerable to HIV in the country hi my name is Michael immigrant break and Prof insane I just want to application of the house how rich initiatives can we use to encourage young people to visit clinics I know that is why do you think will work on this on this generation thank you so much Michael for your question just briefly please comment on this because he used an abbreviation its

adolescent a new trend is obviously so loved life’s goal is to work within the system we trained healthcare professionals to understand the young people and also deal with it deals with the issues of blood and belief systems which people in their weight place where you bring your own personal values where you don’t believe it if it comes for contraceptives or HIV test you say you shouldn’t be having sex at this moment you are very young so we train them will

work with them to see how do how can they separate their professional self in the personal self so it does although so we have been waking training providers on that element so we are getting the actual ok let’s take a short break the cycle shop right now when we come back we’re taking our discussion to a conclusion also take a look at your poor result with finding out what the country pays about our poll question

this evening and we also find a treatment action campaign what campaigns they haven’t pleased to assist those affected and infected with HIV movies from Ben regarding our topic this evening in one would like to comment good afternoon everyone my name is process i doing the living my life what Division I motivate young people in terms of people in their self-esteem in sort of what I can see that we as love life we have what we call upon free time

when we engage parents and youth house we feel like parents are not supported Newt enough so we like our courage you down and peres to be together with this point rita is used to develop themselves and again we have this thing called a program where we have these pure education is what he called peer pressure is positive peer pressure is negative peer pressure so this purification what young people to have a good leader and also feel like my

question really wasn’t answered why do you think that young people are vulnerable to HIV infections anyone else that hasn’t spoken before please that would like to take that thank you lady I’m trying to touch on to the top question you asked for and which young people are more vulnerable cause they’re exposed to all these expensive things in which they wanna get you know get their hands on them in there is my sister is mentioned their bodies in there now

edge themselves in the process of all these expensive things and then they end up and say six and exposing themselves all these other things thank you so much for the comment in one else would like to pay for anything anyone else could even my name is this entire life and I am from connexion campaign I am areas such a reproductive health rights means to make Christian is to sister

are like to know what is their life doing in a provincial level in contempt of support in campaign because one of the most challenges there’d organizations that are funded by the government actually do not want to partner with other organizations because they were due to want to bite the hand that feeds them so light snow from cystic along with wada the companies they did you have a slave life and at a professional level which other

organizations are they working with because we know takes a village to raise a child bank is out of the question it also brings me to a question on campaigns which also have specifically provincial community level can talk about the current campaign that we have is called dude I can play which is a word which is derived from there where test meaning we are encouraging young people to know the

details to go for HIV testing and then we’ve got number of organizations that we are working with and we’ve got a number of projects in China which are some additional provision and some are like implemented that close their pools hot Africa and then from there I’m not sure whether I can see from the provincial I don’t bet the demonstrations for me is difficult to say this is a provincial campaign is a national company because it depends

we’ve got multimedia campaigns way you find that all the nine is ABC stations currently they’ll be they’ll be playing the campaign with coaches PSA which encourage young people to take a stand against HIV engle for testing and also we are saying no to stigma so that it’s a national campaign because if we work we also agreed that contain radio stations into community radio stations which we give them content on daily basis besides they they campaign so we

promote HIV campaigns to say we don’t wait for the World AIDS Day so we have been waking up with the continuations throughout the whole year I’m figure what campaigns to have in place and we can people you know excess more information treatment action campaign is not in its original program reply to wreak dialogue since

schools and out of schools educating people and to which meant it when it does that it was that it is difficult but now it has played it the entire how to reply is our main tourism actually used it every time the visiting all locations where they can educate young people and we partner with other organizations so that we can help the community and we are trying our level best like a little now we have to play it is likely to apply now your state has

begun treatment is the treatment so that campaigns that we are doing and other campaigns we are managing to reach the youth well we asked you the question back at home speaking of the use if you think prevention campaigns are ineffective also you can see we do have the reported 41 percent infection rate and voters eighty percent of all voters voted yes they are actually an effective and 20% and vote of no you don’t agree with your comment you agree

ya know and love life programs so we also have schools programme which that our target from the age of 12 to 19 which is their primary end the high school level in our secondary group is a young people between the age of 19 to 24 schools programme of God in 10 schools program like the one that you machine they live in my life which is more of a motivation its focus on personal development and career development so that young people stay focused on what

they want to achieve irrespective of their family circumstances and then we also have a sexual reproductive health program which is called love for life so we try to implement to complement their life orientation so that they can be come more interactive more fun and it’s implemented by our ground breakers lost with special even on the results before it goes directly above the partisan because it is really a certain point so we need to engage ourselves and

our organization for weekend and the inclusion of because we highly appreciate it if they can encourage more as a teacher told you so much thank you again for coming thank you so much for joining us and thanks to all those for those very much valuable input thanks to you at home for watching us right here on a Sunday live we do appreciate the feedback the engagement and social media it’s been amazing so much for also participating an oddball pressure

because I will come to the end of our program children will see you again next Sunday until then

witnessing through television or on radio is not a general situation for the

whole country these troubles are happening in some some areas some neighborhoods of the capital bujumbura which is under camera under international coming under international human rights observers under all kind of kind of observers but more than more than about 99% of the country is peaceful during daytime and nighttime citizen peacefully two weeks after that statement clashes

claimed several lives yet again observers now fear the simmering tensions could lead to civil war however these sentiments are not shared by the vice president the bulletin people have learnt a lot from the bad experience they have gone through so no one is ready to go back to war no one is ready to go back to the to the killings as this happened in the past because the less than the rent is enough for our

people the government has until Tuesday to respond to the AAU after which the peacekeepers will be deployed more than 400 people have been killed since president announced in April that will stand for a third term this despite the president’s re-election in July which was approved by the Constitutional Court the United Nations Human Rights Council once to investigate the ongoing killings while Uganda will restart mediation efforts in desperate effort to avoid an

where do I know you sort of I’ve known you for very long time let me get this right I just found out I’m probably going to die this year and you’re offering me a job I’m not kidding Elizabeth could help so many people aren’t you the least bit curious ok I’ll tell you what let’s spend some time together today introduced you to some incredible experts and some that you already know I’ll share with you the

wisdom of the keys and you’ll come to see how and how much they can help other people so what do you say and since you only have a limited amount of time if you think about this imagine if the time you had was the sand in my hand changing the vibration of my thought really changed the vibration of my energy in my body success no matter what your job or work is there anything else you focus and I

talked to my children I told him there is no way feeling like they’re getting off a third inroads into conviction so having nothing because everything comes out of nothing become in the key is the mission not just knowing the keys to be strong you will not remember anything about I’ll be watching talking to my guess is getting underway getting all the facts I cancelled

African writer and professional life coach K tennison has featured in the movie the secrets of the keys that was launched recently caton international motivational speaker and best-selling author of clear your clutter is renowned for her capability to decluttering lives of the International motivational speakers and doctors featured in this movie was released on the 3rd of December at the Killarney city centre in Johannesburg it’s not available on her

website will find out where else you can download it but joining us in studio of course is good to have you work basically it’s a self-help video but i wasnt with amazing kind of serendipitous bunch of events and I literally make the producer the one in the picture that plays the main character and we had a three minute interaction in the 800 throng training cinema and two days later she found me

interested in all my god I’ve been looking for you for two days and she invited me cuz we all had picture she’s incredible people from around the world are just watching the clip with you people that have been my mentors for twenty thirty years in the self-development genre and so we all assembled in shock the movie in Las Vegas that incredible and what’s the name of it because when I’m gathering is given a year to live and you know suck

the life out of a debt but the get there but that marrow of life but you know talk to me a little bit more about the feeling behind all these different to live and and and you haven’t done most things idea I mean that’s what I’m thinking of right now if you don’t need to be given a diagnosis of your life completely and I think there is my message is how do you live light so that you can live large and I think so often people are hanging on to the wrong

things with its positions or ideas or limiting beliefs or habit or sometimes even people we hang on the wrong people or friends in our lives and how do we become a present and how do we become more popular word is mindful so just a lot more engaged and I love and yes sometimes we do need a slap but I think sometimes if we are a little bit more we can find a way to live a better life now ya know when when you were approached to do this that Living Light with clearly

that the angle that you came in and you’ve got these these amazing books from clear your clutter and and all the other additional glitch is that the message you were trying to put forward a message to each expert headed for a few minutes on screen to portray the character and hear about how to raise your vibration so in the movies 7 keys which are ways to help someone live a better life and we spoke around one key predominately or a couple of other

things happen at the expense of the other one is about preparations talk about how do you increase your vibration and how do you increase the things the things that no longer and that the clatter aspect and when I talk about clatter talk about three types not just about culture that we can see touch and feel in our lives and it’s also emotional baggage so I talked about how our bodies are we stuck 8 I lived with too much stuff

especially at this time of year with Christmas just consumerism acknowledged and then obviously holding onto sometimes things that don’t anymore but the director shouting at me but i’m going to ask you for one message that you can give for south africans going into the new year it’s gonna be a tough year we all know that we’ve all been warned that it is for them to take through this year to perhaps make it a little bit easier what would you suggest

I would say the things that no longer serve you so that you create a little bit of space so that you can manifest something more and better for yourself beautiful 12 pleasure to see you in and and and like I said you have got this book that’s their holiday reading alright you have my word for it clear your clutter anybody right now with review for the kurds whom whatever I’m gonna get that

one to download this video go to kate website it Kate dash amazon.com prepping it might even get there before most beautiful way to start the year alright get there quickly so wonderful Christmas cake that amazon.com a purchase your copy then you can get it to you and lets take a break in a quick shot above