Update 4.5 Economy Preview: new pilot's journey

Author - War Robots

In the update 4.3 we launched a major rebalance. It's been a couple of months since then, and now it is evident that high-level matches became way more varied. Robots like Haechi, Bulgasari and Spectre aren't as dominant as before, yet still popular. At the same time, there are more and more successful pilots on Mercury, Bulwark, Falcon, Hellburner and other robots.

Overall, we are happy with the results — and we hope you are as well! There will be more work on high-level balance in later updates, but at this point, we focus on the opposite side of War Robots — the new player experience.

Tweak: Equipment unlocks in a new order

War Robots has lots of equipment that encourages complex team coordination (such as Lock-down-based weaponry). And yet, for new pilots all this tech unlock way earlier than much simpler point-and-shooters like Magnum, Taran, and Trident.

It's about time we address that.

Starting with 4.5, newcomers will gradually learn all the ropes of War Robots through their robots and weapons. Here's the plan:

Stage 1 (levels 1-7): basics

First, pilots learn to walk, use covers and hold the target using their classic Molots and Punishers.

Then Magnum and Pin appear, and they learn the difference between kinetic, explosive and energy weaponry. Soon after, Gekko and Nashorn help them taste long-range combat.

Stage 2 (8-13): advanced piloting

Here pilots access the trusty workhorses like Orkan and Taran. Also, first support equipment (ECU and Ancile) debuts here.

Stage 3 (14+): expert training

Once pilots get the basics, time to introduce team-focused tactics. We spice up the core principles with new tools: Lock-down, Suppression, and Damage-over-time.

As before, at level 20 pilots have everything unlocked in the store — we only change the order in which the items appear. This way, newcomers will learn about them when they have all the required foundations set.

For robots, there's a similar structure:

First pilots go through the basics on Vityaz, Gepard and Rogatka…

...then we introduce Griffin, Hover and Lancelot and their likes…

...and sprinkle them with Fujin, Hellburner, Weyland, Invader and other robots with complex playstyles and abilities

New order of robots and weapons unlocking. Yellow names for Gold items, blue — for components-based ones.

Note: we temporarily removed Boa and Golem from the store. They don't fit the current meta landscape very well, so we took them back for some modernization. If you have Boas or Golems, they will remain in your Hangar and will be updated once we return them back to stock later in the future.

Tweak: Workshop and Battle rewards are introduced later

In the update 4.2, Workshop received lots of good (and cheap) robots/weapon options. We expected them to help novices learn about Workshop and components. However, later we noticed that 93% of all components are ordered by pilots of level 20 and higher, while for everyone below everything just got very confusing.

To address this, we pushed the introduction of the Workshop up to the level 21 (instead of 12) and left only the later equipment there. Everything we removed from the Workshop, is now available for Gold or Silver.

Note: if you are below level 21 and already have the Workshop open, it will remain open after the update.

For a similar reason, we also pushed further the first Battle Reward by increasing Honor requirements (while, of course, proportionally increasing payouts) and removed Tokens and Black Market keys from Private-league chests that come before Black Market and WR Royale introduction at their respective levels.

Note: in 4.5 Battle Rewards will include components Spark, Exodus, Falcon, and Bulwark

Tweak: Item costs are revised

Along with the new unlock order, we revised equipment costs, aligning items unlocking on the same level closer to each other.

Some Gold and Silver items (Lancelot, Fury, Noricum, Pinata) became more expensive. Additionally, Workshop components now take more silver to produce.

However, in most cases, there's a significant drop either in initial cost, upgrade cost or upgrade time.

Note: these changes will affect all equipment acquired after July 5th.

Comments

Dear Pixonic, We respect you as a developer. And we don't want to insult or boicot your games. But a few months past have been a very hard days for both old and new players. This was caused by your New Economy, please consider to returm to the old economy when only had 3 currencies : Silver,Gold and Workshop Points. Your new economy are killings old players and make new players hate this game. If only you can listen to us and understand, if you estimate the overall time and cost to upgrade, it was unbelievable. We need more than 6 months to just get our things upgraded without spending too much money in the game.

Fix the economy, bring us new innovations that would help make the games becomes more enjoyable and worth to play with. Don't be greedy with us, the community helps the game to evolved into something what it has becomes today. If you still didn't care about us, then we will consider to find a similar game and help them evolved just like how WR evolved but in different ways and not P2W of course!

Let's say one gets 70 Au/day, and they have the time to play EVERYDAY (or at least login and watch ads): 7x70 = 490 Au/week, 490x4.5 = 2205 Au/month -- that's the amount a player can get a month without paying or participating in challenges and winning awards.

10000/2205 = 4.5 months. Meaning in 4 AND HALF MONTHS a player, who plays EVERYDAY, does not spend any Au on upgrades, will ONLY have a hangar consisting of: a Plasma Griffin, Carny with Thunders, RDB Griffin and Punisher Leo.I'll repeat: 4 AND HALF MONTHS!!...

This game used to be fun for the beginners.... Soon, we won't have anyone to play with...

You guys know Pixonic was bought out over a year ago, Mail.ru owns this and they bought to squeeze money until it dies, nothing else. They dont know how to make good games so take over companies with good games but Mail.ru thinks all mobile games fade in a few years so they ramp up monetization as much as they can which is actually what kills games.Things will never be easier to get and free players you guys are boned, they dont give a shit about the people spending big money on the game.They already made the money spent buying the company back so they will ride it till it dies and do it to the next game, fixing shit like MM and tanking cost money and if the game aint broken people would have less reason to spend money so nothing will ever get fixed.

They have known what players want fixed and they ignore it..... I am still not looking forward to the day the service gets shut off

Boring, predictable, BORING!!!! That's what this game has become. Above all else, boring! Merc's with lock down, 'airheads, with magic wands. I mean, this is now so predictable. The Merc is the new spec - great!!! So what. Did Payonic say "rebalance?"

Dash bots are now screwed, everyone still wants a spec but they have been rendered useless in most situations (skilled players excused - all good). And now we have the pantomime bots - "numbnuts" "herpes" & "Airhead". Boring, very very boringgggg............

Payonic, you really have ruined this game. It was a game of skill, it was once rewarding, it was "once upon a time"......

You глупый, глупый people. I see some are calling for a boycott in December, I simply did not play this last weekend and feel much better for it. WR has now become a waste of my precious time. I don't bother picking up the iPad to play anymore.

Yes, Payonic, that's what you wanted of me! I don't pay to play anymore. I have so much to spend, but why would i spend my money on WR given your recent and ongoing actions??? If I pay today, my robot gets bent over and fucked up the ass tomorrow, or the next day.

I no longer have the same performance from those products i spent good money on previously therefore, please explain to the me and the players why we should 'waste' our money on this now boring, predictable game??? An honest and open answer would be greatly appreciated. Yes, i said "honest". Problem here is that you are compulsive liars which you have of course proven time and again.

New players, you will not have noticed how many 'legends' have left the game. It is rather sad that you have begun a journey to nowhere, a journey that will leave you deflated, unhappy and wondering why you wasted so much of your time.

That said, if you want to waste money and lets face it, those who pay to play WR are doing just that, go right ahead, that is of course your choice.

I have a Blitz and and Invader (and Rayker😷) and the decrease in time of the Blitz didn't take effect... Still 6 days to upgrade to a lvl 7... And yet !t invader got the new update... More cost to upgrade.... Plz fix or i will turn my attention to B.O.T... THANK YOU!!!

Moody Stinger , That's not as bad as buying an Exodus, Spark and A Bulwark that were introduced right before the 4.0 economy update, then scare you into obtaining before the econ changes only to have the same fuqin timers as if you purchased them after 4.0!Then to change the timers on those items in this new update for those that got them after 4.0...WTF!

Arslan46, Though I do believe that the “Pay-to-Win” is a true annoyance, I believe that the reality of the situation is that Pixonic just doesn’t know where to go, or when to take a break from the main course: modules. I’ve heard for months that they want these modules in, and the updates have shown this quite clearly.But the last part you mentioned, I wish to answer. That’s your own issue, and I doubt that’s exactly what happens, all the time.

The adjusted percentages for the timers of items obtained after update 4.0 have not been applied to everything. I refuse to upgrade items and waste silver and gold for an inflated upgrade. Please fix this ASAP!

Huh man... Make some weapons available for Ag... Like Taran , because it takes more days to create a taran and I can't play with punisher , molot where many is having advanced weapons... And Match making is not that good... I see many players with more victories and I have just started about 2 months... Please take care of that... Because of that I am loosing my interest in playing the game... Well I love the game a lot... Please please make some good weapons available at stores...

With these you are going to stop the influx of new players that at least were occupying part of the places vacant from oldtimers tired of being mistreated and disapointed at your lack of comunication and perceptivness to all the feedback and info we keep sending you to fix the issues that are destroying the game and making so many thousands or hundreds of thousands of great oldtimers to be temporarily replaced by newcomers that shall shortly go away looking for a game more player friendly. I might say it doesn't affect me but whatever affects the game at the end finally has adverse consequences to all of us who who are not new to the game. And you keep either adding more content to a game that already has way to much that we can't manage to keep up with but also don't do a thing to fix all the known issues that need fixing asap and causing so many to abandon. You need to pay atention to what affects the majority of your player base, not the minority of newcomers neither the minority of real old timers and wallet warriors that are in since it started. It's the 80% of players in between that need urgent changes or otherwise you'll end losing them in a while. Good luck with your choices and decissions, but you are fixing and mending things that that might need fixing but are forgetting the ones eroding the foundations and central core of the game (matchmaking, tankers, VIP 2.0, economy etc).

K.o.0 wr, Thats a tiny tiny tiny advance, 10-20% faster upgrade times in weapons and bots that matter are definetly not enough to bring back any of my friends who left the game (the few i mentioned actually laughed). And i believe its also not enough to really motivate new players. Bringin old players back, now, would demand more than bringin the old economy back. The Brand “war robots” lost so much, people just hate pixo, fairly. People that used to spend are afraid od spending cause they see the free players leaving. Vip service actually got engagement, thanks to upgrade rush. But this rebalance is a positive movement anyway, one among the 20 nwgative movements in the last year, maybe it will make the game last some weeks more. Almost got tempted to upgrade Some old Tridents, but then, trident buff never happened.

That is actually a great update, haters will always say it is bad but in my opinion it's a good step torward a better and more enjoyable game.I'm glad to see that you finally did something for the economy, now it will be possible to upgrade weapons and robots in a more reasonable time and cost.With the economy that came out in july newer players had huge problems and quitted game because of too long times and costs.High end players also had problems because To keep up with meta they need to upgrade stuff to mk2 lvl12, and if it takes 2B silver and 400+ days for a single robot+weapons it is too hard.I'm sure now more players will be willing to play this game and some players will come back, that is good for both players and pixonic.I have a question: does this update affect weapons and robots that got purchased after july 5th? So new economy? If that is true it will be a huge plus to this update, I really hope that's the case.Great job and keep listening to players as you did lately with royale and now with that economy update

hahahah your greedy scumbags always find way to fuck up free to play comunity. hope all these paying retards stop doing it (but it will never happen). every little new bots and equipment so wallet army can demolish battlefield and enjoy their spent money. every so my phone loose connection when i can kill someone who is mk2, after few secondy i got reconnected and lost my bot

WR team this update represents a step in the right direction. Thank you for listening to our concerns. I still feel further adjustment is need and I'll tell you why. Mk2 and multiple hangars. I feel like upgrade times and cost should be set to where a good hard working player could have a max mk1 hangar in a few months. Mk2 by 6 months and there for a second mk2 hangar by 1 year. Keep in mind that's only if they decide on a set of gear and stick to it. Jumping back and forth will take longer. At the current economy level I feel no need to reach for the newest gear because it's so hard to level. Regardless of how good it is I'd rather have a mk2 max old bot like haichi than a level 10 new bot like pursuer. I do recognize the pursuer is better but under this economy I don't even want to try. In closing I think a level 12 upgrade for any bot or weapon should be capped at 35 million and 7 days. This would give us a sense of possibility and that hard work would pay off instead of a feeling that it's never going to happen.

What a load of bullshit you have here. We asked you to REVERT the economy to the old one, not to overcomplicate it. Increasing the tempest costs to 630 million? Are you kidding me? What was your reasoning behind this? You made most items up to 9x harder to upgrade without having us able to voice our opinions. And now, you introduce this bullshit that makes the already expensive items even more expensive and more time consuming? Take the time to think about all the ways you are killing the game before shit out more bullshit items and system changes

Hey dix-i mean pixonic, you made quite a few typos there. The percentages for the tempest, lancelot, and fury seem really big. Maybe you should hire more staff that aren't s trigger-happy on the 0 button

How many short range weapons are there? And how many weapons of long and medium distance are there too many. They should create two game modes, one long and medium distance and one short distance. So we would be happy all

How many short range weapons are there? And how many weapons of long and medium distance are there too many. They should create two game modes, one long and medium distance and one short distance. So we would be happy all

How many short range weapons are there? And how many weapons of long and medium distance are there too many. They should create two game modes, one long and medium distance and one short distance. So we would be happy all

Pixonic... I like that you make little changes, however the most important one for new and old players is “UPGRADE TIMES FOR MULTIPLE ROBOTS AND WEAPONS”. Can’t you see how ridiculous and stupid your upgrading times are? So much brilliant minds in your staff, but little to show for... Come on and allow us to upgrade multiple weapons and robots at the same time and decrease by 75% the times. Costs are OK. I can see you’ve lost players as when I play, I play 3 or 5 times against the same robots. That tells me that you’ve lost gamers against Fortnite!

InFyNyTywar, You need to stop players with mk2 level wepons drop leagues. If you have level 12 bots and wepons we should not be able to drop less than expert league and if we have mk2 no less than master league.

Nice thinking of the new players, but they won’t stick around for long, once they realize how long upgrading a full hangar will take them.

Nobody wants to play a game that takes several months to reach a full level 9 hangar, let alone level 12. And don’t even get me started about MK2.

Nobody has enough Au to MK2 anything. Certainly not if you add aspirations of getting a second hangar.

There have been multiple complaints for several months now about how ridiculous it is to have a currency (Au) so important throughout the game at all levels, with so little ways of accumilating enough to even remotely BUILD A STRONG HANGAR as a free player.

But you guys don’t care about that, do you?

All you care about is how to make the most money of players dumb enough to participate in your stupid ratrace. New robots and new weapons with every update or two.

NOBODY WANTS THE NEW BOTS AND WEAPONS THAT TAKE FOREVER TO UPGRADE.

^ now read that and try and understand it.

Stop ruining the fun in a game with great potential, for both older players and the new players you pretend to care about.

Gokzzoff, Yeah about that, because of this update, ummm... you can actually buy a fujin with Ag.It used to need workshop points, then components/Au ,now umm... u can buy it with Ag.I took advantage and bought 2 fujin😏, and also start saving up for raijin and avengers(means you have to save up for Au) helps alot in the champions league. It destroy an ancilot with tarans in just 4 sec,(including the frontal armour plating shield) I killed the ancilot tarans, with Raijin lvl9 2x avenger lvl 9 &lvl8

Gokzzoff, Yeah about that, because of this update, ummm... you can actually buy a fujin with Ag.It used to need workshop points, then components/Au ,now umm... u can buy it with Ag.I took advantage and bought 2 fujin😏, and also start saving up for raijin and avengers(means you have to save up for Au) helps alot in the champions league. It destroy an ancilot with tarans in just 4 sec,(including the frontal armour plating shield) I killed the ancilot tarans, with Raijin lvl9 2x avenger lvl 9 &lvl8

you said "economy, blah blah blah" but all you care about is money. why? if you made it like before, old WR, then even if it's not so much good equipments or not so much good bots at least it's more people playing so you could earn more money. Is it that you want 25% of the people spent 100,000 dollars with 50% quitting or all players spend money? huh? You bullshit. if you make components easier to buy or easier to earn gold then i would be happy to pool in some bucks, and i'm sure everybody will if you do it like that. Now you are just fucking up your own game and your own money.

fucking pixonic took away all my 1.5k gold for nothing you know how fucking the workshop whatever, 3.0 is? An ion 400 component price before was fucking enough now its 230 for even more price its just loads of bullshit

Where is all my components I have 9800 Doc components , 3200 stalker components , and 3865 Avenger components all missing and no I checked and double checked everything is still missing and not in inventory or hanger . After playing with honor and going on 4 1/2 year's and this is how you repay me . Tks alot !!! so where is my ITEMS this is stupidity on Pixonic part so get off your ass and give me my ITEMS back !

It’s unacceptable that you increase upgrade times on items we already own, especially old economy items. You guys are the worst, I hate mail.ru so much. You don’t give a shite about long-term players and nothing you do is to improve the game, it’s all about milking players wallets and screwing players over to increase your bank account. You guys suck, I’ve never hated a company as much as mail.ru. I just bought premium for first time in 2 years (or however long ago you bought out this great game and whored it out) but never again will you get a cent from me. Hope you go out of business and I’ll be playing Battle Titans exclusively now. Gent bent.

I like Cossack & as long as that tiny bot is in the game I am with the game.

When I saw Cossack on update photo I thought either Cossack & destrier are being removed or there some event for those two or new map for Cossack bot. ^_^. Those are the most ignored bots xD & in game at high level everyone ignore them.

Arslan46, Hahahaha... Even I am a F2P player never paid since i joined this game (2017) & disconnection appens to me all time especially when I launch my lvl 9 aphids on a player who is mk2. I fixed that bug with an ancile shield. It helps to buy some time while it reconnect & manages to kill. I noticed that occasionally lag also occurs when you are about to get hit by some player. May ping latency might be the issue but ancile help me.

Gokzzoff, Yes you are right even I am F2P player & had been playing it since 31 Dec 2016, & I had seen many changes in this but after 13th March update 3.7 match maker changed & got worse after 4.0. Match maker constantly tries to push F2P player to the loser side of the game I feel. Even I feel like uninstalling it but it kill my time so I have kept it. With new weapons in market old workshop points weapons should be cut down to silver in easy to buy & harder to upgrade this will balance the game.

Now as some one old enough to be your dad I'll give it to you straight .you been a bad bad boy you either play nice or you get grounded all toys taken away and no pocket money for a month . What's it to be

I am feeling a bit like I just got screwed. I haven't been playing long. I started getting the hang of stuff. Now I have just been knocked down. And now I am getting smoked fast. This seems to have turned into a pay to play. Since the shortest time for workshop is 1 day. And you only get 80 of 10000. So what it will take me a month to make one weapon

These are not implemented properly as of 11/28 1130a PST. Corona upgrade times/prices did not change, while Shredder changed but not by 33% (50% at low levels and 25% at high levels). Please take a look and fix!

I don't like the fact the bot i was working towards was 400 component for 1.2 credit is now 260 for 950k and the weapon that was 400 for 440k is now 260 for 460k... basically they increased the component requirement to make it longer to get stuff... then the conversion is 500 for 200 which makes it much longer again... the greed of this company knows no bounds.... then buying bots you could easily pay $140 and barely complete one bot... My faith in the company has diminished.

Stupid enter key, I was trying to add that even after the economy changed, after gold was taken from Royale, and the workshop was changed to increase production time and cost I still hung on, but not now. I ground out the silver to get a Lancelot when WS 2.0 first opened and have kept grinding to get it to lvl 8. But now, I have no easy access to WIFI which is how I played the game, and No access to gold (Royale 2500 AU prizes) twice boosted my hangar upgrades) and with the cost increase to upgrading Lancelot, and no way to afford a second Rhino (built with WS1) my hangar is now gutted. I CANNOT play enough to grind out the silver for the new costs, so I NO LONGER HAVE AN INCENTIVE TO PLAY.GOODBYE.

Frankly I am horrified at the changes. Since the economy change in July, I have struggled to keep up. I am homeless, and unemployed, living in a shelter in Knoxville, Tn called KARM (Knox Area Rescue Ministries). Now I will have NO access to Rhino, Galahad or Avenger, just three of the items I had listed for WS 2.0. I have NO income, so short of someone giving me money I will never have 2000+ gold in this game. Thank you very much Pixonic, you just destroyed my favorite game.

WHY???? What do you possibly have to gain by fucking up the beautiful sound and volume of Punishers, while making sure that the totally asshat calling out of "kill, double kill, triple kill, wrampage and godlike is even louder now??? You complete asshats.

I've dealt with tankers, I've dealt with your lies, your slight of hand gimmickery, your complete shame of design in weaponry and the pussy enabling that you insist on doing in order to try to retain the absolute lowest runged mentalitied morons to play your game in order to keep raking in your money...

But it's this... the fucking up of the sound in the game...that has pushed me over the edge.

WHY???? What do you possibly have to gain by fucking up the beautiful sound and volume of Punishers, while making sure that the totally asshat calling out of "kill, double kill, triple kill, wrampage and godlike is even louder now??? You complete asshats.

I've dealt with tankers, I've dealt with your lies, your slight of hand gimmickery, your complete shame of design in weaponry and the pussy enabling that you insist on doing in order to try to retain the absolute lowest runged mentalitied morons to play your game in order to keep raking in your money...

But it's this... the fucking up of the sound in the game...that has pushed me over the edge.

I'd like a Buff from Zenit.I'd like the speed of Natasha, Fury, Griffen, to be late. It is because the advantage of Leo has declined.

Next,Add bonus when purchasing more than half of the components with real money.It means "to raise the initial level from 1".As we are currently asking for too much silver for level up, we will not purchase without waiting with cash "Also, Pixonic said, "I realized that the player who bought 93% of the components was a level 20 or higher pilot," he said.If you purchase in cash you get a bonus, pilots with player level 20 or higher will be easier to buy.In My opinion.However, in the case of offer, we will not attach a bonus.Thank you for your consideration.

In one of my earlier comments, I highlighted my concern on what happens to a component-turned-gold weapon (e.g. Avenger) being made half way in WS2.0 when update 4.5 takes place.

Just few hours ago Android got the 4.5 update. Then whilst browsing other WR forums, I noted one angry poster commented that he lost all his components he build for Gust and Avenger after the update.

I am or going to be in a similar situation whereby I have a GAMEROOM account that as at few minutes at the point of writing this comment yet to to be updated to 4.5. I've already got 2000 comps for Avenger and 1200 comps more on the production slots.

Am I to lose this as well? Or will we receive refunds? The article did not address this issue well. If refund or some sort of consolation is intended or planned, kindly please announce to us.

Anyone know what happens to the components we've produced for bots/weapons that are being removed from the workshop?

Also, Pixonic, it's not surprising that the majority of workshop purchases are done by higher level players. The price you charge for components is outside the price range that lower level players can afford except for gear that they likely already have or don't need. Since you are raising the cost of components yet again, you will likely see the average level of people buying components go up again, or at least that the lower levels will buy less. I personally don't like this trend. It keeps widening the gap that newer players need to cross to catch up to the experienced players who already have high end gear.

I had a taran about a hour from being finished in the workshop and now I have no components and no taran. No one compensated me for anything...will I be compensated ever or are you guys just saying screw everyone who had components for weapons and robots you cant build anymore??? That is somewhat of a irritation seeing as I spent a decent amount of time and silver building that and now have nothing to show for it.

Like the day production of some weapons / robots. don't like the three day production or the fact that they have reduced the amount from 100 to 60 on corona probably others. The length of time need to produce weapons on the game is the big negative. These updates have made this even more so.

I had reached 9900 in product of a taran and lost it due to the update. the real kicker is to be compensated in silver but can only purchase it with gold. First impressions of update are looks good but would agree need more option to buy with silver or in production increase say 300 instead of 100 on some guns

Yay months wasted on components to get a bit of silver back... 9900 taran components... Yep thats right 100 components from getting it completed... Now you cant make taran components so here have some silver... Ohh yea and 1500 gold for ur taran now.. Good luck, or pay 🏧... F you devs...

Yea just did the update... Found out 9900 taran pieces are just going to get a bit of silver back cant make em in workshop now and they caust 1500 gold now gee thx... What a f*ing wast of time... Around a month+ making components to get silver back... Devs really know how to f**k you over dont they...

Dude!!!! Super not cool!! I was within 20 components from having the Orkin rocket launcher. This is total and complete nonsense! Why make this change! You guys change major aspects to advancement that actually set players back, and that is ridiculous! I DO NOT WANT TO BE COMPENSATED WITH SILVER, I WANT THE PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT I WAS DAYS AWAY FROM AQUIRING! Making changes like this ruin the enjoyment of this fun game.

First give me my supply drops due since end of october!I tried all the help options ingame but nobody of you scammers will help me getting them!

Why did you take away my workshop points for my weapons and bots?For example i had like 9300 arbalest points but since my workshop was busy i could not finish it in time. As far as i understand we only get silver back instead of gold. i would suggest give us at least the value of workshop points back in gold so we can buy them in the store!

workshop is getting worst now.. you said in the video that it gonna take a lot less time .. before this 400 components Corona takes 6days12hrs and takes 650k Ag (if i remember correctly/correct me if im wrong ). but now 170 components takes 3days and 570k Ag..so 340 components takes 6days and 1.4millon Ag .. ITS GETTING TOO expensive now and doesnt take less time..it is actually longer ..how stupid you think players are?

Just received the update yesterday, probably the best update you guys made. You took in consideration my idea to indicate a visual difference between aegis and energy shield, you made the battle screen so much cleaner, you remodeled the trident, provided more silver and gold items (there were way too many component items), gave new 30m boosters, and not only did you add component conversion, but you also completely remodeled the workshop 2.0 system! Thank you for not only going above and beyond, but also addressing problems rather than adding equipment that create more problems.

IT SEEMS LIKE THE REST OF THESE PILOTS/ PLAYERS FOR GOT WITH ALL THE WEEKLY CHANGES AND WEEKLY ADDITIONAL ROBOTS AND WEAPONS! PILOTS HELLO,WELL I DIDN'T FORGET THAT YOU ALREADY DID YOUR MODERATION OF.........[ ROBOT----BOA ]----(ABOUT 5 MONTHS AGO)!! SO WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON WITH............. ROBOT. BOA

IT SEEMS LIKE THE REST OF THESE PILOTS/ PLAYERS FOR GOT WITH ALL THE WEEKLY CHANGES AND WEEKLY ADDITIONAL ROBOTS AND WEAPONS! PILOTS HELLO,WELL I DIDN'T FORGET THAT YOU ALREADY DID YOUR MODERATION OF.........[ ROBOT----BOA ]----(ABOUT 5 MONTHS AGO)!! SO WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON WITH............. ROBOT. BOA

Most robots and weapons will take less time and less silver to upgrade...thats nice.But Lancelot and fury +100% time and +270% cost? Why do you make the leveling of these bots so unattractive? What is your aim? To make new players / or free to play gamer loose the interest to these bots and make these user not competitive enough anymore?idk if you recognise that WR needs a lot of free to play gamer to make sure that the matching won't take several minutes. There are enough player who pay. You also got me to pay constantly every month for the new premium with the speed up for leveling up ...its ok because I appreciate a good game and I want to support it by paying money. Its clear that it is absolutely necessary for a company to have good economy ballance. But the matchmaking is mostly unfair: Problem #1 are the league diver which you call "tanker"....they already have everything they need or they buy it with money. It's not enough to donate the players in the uper leagues with more silver, tokens, and parts because the "tanker" don't care about it....the devs should work on a different league/match making system. Examples: player who reached a higher league can't go down more then one league anymore....or certain levels of bots and weapons can't be used in certain lower leagues...or players get matched by the amount of the victories they have/ or by the level of their bots and weapons.....or....or....or. come on its not that difficult to find better solutions for that problem. WR is loosing a lot of free to play gamer because of this probleme....the less gamer are playing WR the higher the matching time and the higher the matching time the more player will loose the interest in playing WR....its a spiral that that goes downwards.KEEP ALL PLAYERS YOU HAVE OR YOU WILL LOOSE EVERYTHING!!!I care about it because I like this game more then every other game and I don't want to miss it.

OK it's good that you guys are catering the game for newcomers. However some of the intended changes makes my head spin.

I have a clarification. For example the Avenger. The table above indicated that the Avenger will available as Gold item with next update. However I didn't see the Avenger in the Item Costs section. Did you guys missed that? Secondly a more pertinent question is what happens to Avenger components that I already have or I'm the midst of building in the workshop when the new update takes place?

P. S. 1500 Au for Arbalest? More expensive than the trusty Orkan? So is there be going to be a buff then?

Please change "Lock Down" to prevent Dash and Jump+Stealth for 5 seconds. The way "Lock Down" works today is a painful gaming experience. There's no need to lock down older or slower robots. Now that "Lock Down" weapons are readily available every pilot has one and the game play suxs on both sides of a battle. To be clear, I have a Strider (lvl 12) and a Spectre (lvl 12) both of which would be effected by such a change.

For dash bots add a 10 second cooldown to the dash ability and 20 seconds before the "Lock Down" can be applied again. If the bot doesn't have available dashes to use stop the cooldown timer for the next available dash by 10 seconds.

For Spectre, Inquistor and Mercury add a 10 second cooldown to the Jump+Stealth ability and the same 20 seconds before reapplication can occur. Similar to the dash bots if any of the Jump+Stealth bots ability is already on cooldown either add 10 seconds to the current CD timer or pause it for 10 seconds.

Hi Pixonic Guys. In game development, the weight of the game against that of the device resources seems to be a little off in favour of the weight. I have played the game for sometime now and even my samsung S8 gets hiccups on a hi speed internet connection. Issues include, on entering a battle, sometimes the robot will not move immediately, occasional poor response to directional control, sticking when battle finished and results posted. It is a good solid game and though top end guys get a walkover occasionally, the little guys pay big time for their success. Perhaps a grading system for the Black Market spinner success may help them? This could be coupled to the level and experience?

This game is super. I used to play the Mechwarriors series some time ago, like the idea of customising the weaponry, but suggest having more customisation of armour. Also silver appears to be a harder to get for upgrades and some purchases.

Hi Love the game, not sure about the 100% increase in upgrade cost and time for basic weapons, pinata and noricum. 260% on Lancelot and Fury for time. This could find these being sidestepped for other more quickly upgradeable ( such as Natasha ) robots for newbies and lower level members.

Well, I'm not sure it's a good idea to increase mercury upgrade time. It's my favourite bot and I was planning to get a 2nd one, but I find upgrade too long soooo...(Probably gonna get a mender instead)Except that, I agree with everything here. Really good to decrease scourge upgrade time and cost, this one was lots too expensive and long.

Yael Thrash, In their updates have as a priority the new pilots and those who already have a lot of time playing we are dissatisfied, we get everything we have with a lot of effort and even paying real money so that after devalue them as specter they took away speed and stealth time they did inservivle and many bought with real money, several veteran pilots with more than 2 or 3 years playing have left WAR ROBOTS For their silly updates How can we improve a weapon and the cost is 43 million Ag when fighting around 200 k of Ag? It will be ruining the game with that kind of updates and soon War Robots will be a game that nobody wants to play

I do not know If I should start to cry or immediately to leave :-((( It will be never ending ...... again economic changes ??!!! I spent my time, money for items...uprgraded for millions of silver ...now new pilots will have it cheaper, can upgrade cheaper items what are for me unreachable upgrades by to incredible high price ...levels 10 and more fo everything new.....

Pix, why you increase Invader's upgrade cost? Actually Invader is not the top tier robot, slow speed,weak firepower, four long legs, no stealth... Although it has the highest hp in game but when it jump to sky all enemy will shot it, a perfact target... Currently no more players like it, less opportunity to see them in battlefield.Invader's upgrade cost won't match its ability after this coming update. So please buff its speed, firepower, and add stealth and helldive ability like mercury.

Omar Gonzalez, I agree, only stepping it up to a 5x upgrade time reduction. It actually kind of makes sense, as for most other games upgrading something from first tier to second tier usually takes only 30 seconds or a minute, sometimes as little as 15 seconds! But in War Robots the fastest upgrade is 5 minutes, not to mention that it will take nearly 2/3 of a year just to upgrade something like a bulwark. On top of it, if you want to fill in all five hangar decks, it will literally take 25% of your lifetime, 20 years, to do so. This game probably won't even be around in such time.

One more thing, WHY TF ARE THERE LIGHT WEAPONS THAT ARE GOING TO COST 5000 GOLD?!?!?!?! WE GET IT THAT LOCKDOWN WEAPONS ARE GOOD BUT WHO WOULD PAY AS MUCH AS THE COST OF A LANCELOT/FURY FOR A SINGLE LIGHT WEAPON??? THANK GOD THAT THEY WILL STILL HAVE A CONPONENTS OPTION, BC EVEN WORKSHOP TAKES LESS TIME THAN OBTAINING 5k GOLD FREE TO PLAY

Why are gust and storm so pricy?!? Does pixonic realize that they are making them the cost of a decent mid-game medium robot [GALAHAD]. Other than that I like the update, the ups in upgrade time and money for Lancelot and fury are pretty stupid but it isn’t the worst group of bots that could have been nerfed in such a way. Component conversion will definitely be a fun and helpful system to aid players in getting the new and current meta much quicker! Overall good update purely for the reduction of MOST upgrade times and costs, and the conversion system. But WE ALL WANT TO KNOW WHEN THE UPDATE IS COMING OUT!!!

If you're gonna abduct Golem and Boa at least give us back Schutze, you guys still haven't given a solid reason why it was removed in the first place, and if you strip away Golem's unique quality of having all 3 hardpoint classes, you're only gonna cause an uproar.

You said that silver rewards will be double but its has actually reduced to 1/3, while upgrade cost increased to 4x... Robots and weapons Cost is not the problem, the problem is battle rewards,, i started playing this game 2 and half years back.,i occasionally used to make 1 million silver from one battle, but now even with silver booster i get only 350k-400k,that too when im on top.. You think we forgot what you said? You said we will get more silver per battle, where is it? We all know why you are doing this, so that we can pay for premium... After all greedy is all you have been..

If you're gonna abduct Golem and Boa at least give us back Schutze, you guys still haven't given a solid reason why it was removed in the first place, and if you strip away Golem's unique quality of having all 3 hardpoint classes, you're only gonna cause an uproar.

If you're gonna abduct Golem and Boa at least give us back Schutze, you guys still haven't given a solid reason why it was removed in the first place, and if you strip away Golem's unique quality of having all 3 hardpoint classes, you're only gonna cause an uproar.

If you're gonna abduct Golem and Boa at least give us back Schutze, you guys still haven't given a solid reason why it was removed in the first place, and if you strip away Golem's unique quality of having all 3 hardpoint classes, you're only gonna cause an uproar.

Please Put gold back in Royal Pixonic. I do spend money here and there a bit to upgrade. But it seems you guys making it too much costly to play. Don't make this game totally for pay to win. Make it reasonably good at least.

Please Put gold back in Royal Pixonic. I do spend money here and there a bit to upgrade. But it seems you guys making it too much costly to play. Don't make this game totally for pay to win. Make it reasonably good at least.

Thank god you guys are looking into upgrade times... There's 1 more concern that now most of the equivalent is available for gold but how would they get that gold to buy new equipment. I am in expert league but still not able to unlock 5th slot bz gold no longer available in royal and hanger cost still the same. Its very rare.

Interesting... Sounds like 4.5 will somewhat be returning to what a pre-league, equipment-based (Walking) War Robots looked like... I'm assuming also that this means if you field certain Models i.e. tebuchet-Armed Butch, that you may not face Pilots below Level 8; THAT is a good thing!

The accessibility of Boa and Golem is puzzling though... Being a long-tine player myself, I think the Pulot Levels should have been increased... Taking the number of Robots available, adding several more (3-5) levels to that total fitting-in models like Schutze, Boa and Golem.

Anytime a new Robot is introduced to the game, it should "fit" into vavailability; I remember a tine when EVERY piece of equipnent had its tine with every Pilot and it's great to see WR getting back to that rather than everyone screaming about how the Vityaz or other Robots need to be given a special ability!

I have a new account already level 30 and it’s insane that it is almost diamond League 1 with workshop level 12. I do not have a single taran on my account yet. The magnum and taran are basic energy weapons yet the 200/400 component builds in WS2.0 are not unlocked until WS level 23+. That has got to be a huge oversight. Orkan is available in quantities over 100 components early on, but not taran. I have kept my WS bust since it was opened, but it is to the point that I have to build things I don’t even need, just to level the WS. And it levels so slowly now due to the huge increase of WS times we have now. Please look into this and make weapons available in 100/200/400 component batches at appropriate levels.

WTF??? Why increase the cost and time of the Lancelot to such impossible levels? Why???? It is already hard to upgrade it past lvl9.. Will be impossible now. 20M just to get it to lvl10 and then almost a week to wait???