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Thanks to Michelle Obams school lunches suck now. I remember when I was going to school in the 1980s and Early 1990s school lunch where like a 5 star restaurant. I loved eating school lunch, doesn't everyone remember how good they where back before Obama took office? It was cheap and it would taste like something you will eat a good restaurant. I remember once I went to a very experience restaurant with my forks and I noticed it tasted like good food. not sure why Michelle changed this or why LIBERALS think its a good idea. but I missed that school lunch they had when I was a kid.

Tax Payer1 Wrote:
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> I will stop NON STOP TO PISSED HIM OFF. I DONT
> THINK IT IS. WE EAT WWHAT WE WANT AINT NOBOY
> STOPING US

Then you must be blind if you can't see how fucking fat we and our kids are compared to the rest of the world. Just think how easy America will fall in the face of a foreign invasion because we're all too fat and out of shape. If you really love America, you'd change your attitude about the obesity epidemic.

I have never understood why the school systems feel the need to serve lunch...

Parents need to send their children to school with a healthy lunch. Those who send their children with an unhealthy lunch or cannot afford to send their children with ANY lunch, will have their children separated from gen pop.

Tax Payer1 Wrote:
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> Thanks to Michelle Obams school lunches suck now.
> I remember when I was going to school in the 1980s
> and Early 1990s school lunch where like a 5 star
> restaurant. I loved eating school lunch, doesn't
> everyone remember how good they where back before
> Obama took office? It was cheap and it would
> taste like something you will eat a good
> restaurant. I remember once I went to a very
> experience restaurant with my forks and I noticed
> it tasted like good food. not sure why Michelle
> changed this or why LIBERALS think its a good
> idea. but I missed that school lunch they had
> when I was a kid.

She came up with these lunch ideas while eating an ice cream come at Marthas Vineyard

What? When I was a student in the 1990s our lunch meals were not fancy. For instance if we had burgers. They were those pre-formed hamburger patties with slight depressions in them from the machinery that made them. There was a healthy amount of soy protein filler in them. We had a little 8 oz. box of 2% milk, some green beans and Maybe half a canned peach for dessert.

Other times it was really greasy baked chicken or cheap whitefish fillets.

Wherever you went to school must have been pretty awesome, at least at lunch time.

I'm just wondering why if people are so pissed about school lunches why not pack your own lunch with what you want in it? It is just kind of odd that so many people buy lunch but at the same time they don't want to government telling them what to do. I get that a lot of the school lunch consumption goes to people getting government assistance but what about the others? Everyone preaching self-reliance should self-rely on their ability to pack their own lunch with the contents of their choice.

Just a thought... Wrote:
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> I'm just wondering why if people are so pissed
> about school lunches why not pack your own lunch
> with what you want in it? It is just kind of odd
> that so many people buy lunch but at the same time
> they don't want to government telling them what to
> do. I get that a lot of the school lunch
> consumption goes to people getting government
> assistance but what about the others? Everyone
> preaching self-reliance should self-rely on their
> ability to pack their own lunch with the contents
> of their choice.
>
> Just a thought not a sermon.

Every school district has a lot of discretion over how it wants to comply with federal laws on school lunches. That's why some people remember delicious school lunches from the 1980s and other people remember brown, greasy mush.

Retired FCPS teachers say that in the 1970s FCPS used to cook its school lunches from scratch, and the food was good enough that many teachers happily ate it. Sometime in the 1980s, Penny McConnell began running the FCPS cafeteria program, and the food quality began slipping. She replaced meals prepared on site with unappetizing frozen food, which the cafeteria workers defrosted in warming ovens.

Warmed-over slop became the typical FCPS meal long before Obama became president. That's why the percentage of FCPS students voluntarily purchasing the warmed-over slop kept declining.

Penny McConnell's reputation might be adversely affected if the data showed a free fall in the percentage of FCPS students buying lunch. So, FCPS propped up its school lunch participation rates a few years ago by offering free lunches to students who only qualified for reduced-price meals. That FCPS policy is running through the school system's dedicated reserves for Food and Nutrition Services, which otherwise could have been used to improve the quality of the food that is served to all students.

Federal law now requires schools to serve healthier food, but doesn't tell school systems how to do that. FCPS could serve delicious freshly-baked whole wheat rolls, or it could serve stale whole wheat bread that never tasted good even when it was first baked. FCPS could serve freshly-washed and cut lettuce, peppers and other vegetables in salad bars, or it could serve pre-packaged salads with wilted and slimy ingredients that have been sitting around too long.

Students who don't like what they are being served should contact Penny McConnell and her subordinates, who run FCPS Food and Nutrition Services. If your school serves you disgusting food, don't assume that it's the fault of the guy who manages your school cafeteria. He is probably just following orders.

When I went to school in the 70's, I must have graduated just before they became 5 star restaurants. I remember the burgers that meat may have been in the room when they were made, and the (in)famous school pizza.

The highlight of the meal was the Charms big pop you got when you returned your tray.

Moron... Wrote:
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> The alternative of every stupid assfuck doing
> whatever he wants is much, much worse. Societies
> are about rule-making, Your job is to obey the
> rules. Get to work!

Herp derp, I should be able to do what I want. I don't need the government to tell me things like I can't steal my neighbor's cable, or rape my niece, or not take a shit on a school playground. Or sell rat meat as chicken breast, or not sell those fake cancer pills: free market, libtards! Stay outta mah life, gubamint!

FCPS Food Wrote:
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> If your school serves you disgusting food, don't assume
> that it's the fault of the guy who manages your school
> cafeteria. He is probably just following orders.

Every item added to the FCPS menu is first taste-tested and rated by hundreds of students and adults at organized tasting parties. Only the good stuff moves along. Believe it or not, these actual trained professionals are smart enough to understand that nothing is nutritious if people won't eat it. FCPS meanwhile serves 140,000 meals per day at 176 different locations. You simply can't accomplish that by making stuff from scratch on-site every day.

Nixon Wrote:
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> Guess I have to blame Johnson and Nixon for my bad
> school lunches. Im sure they were doing it
> because of Obama though tin_foil_hat

I can assure you that Truman and Eisenhower were just as Kenyan as Obama and made school lunches be disgusting even way back then.

7xp3n Wrote:
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> Herp derp, I should be able to do what I want.

ABSOLUTELY NOT, you assfuck sociophobe.

> I don't need the government to tell me things like I
> can't steal my neighbor's cable, or rape my niece,
> or not take a shit on a school playground. Or sell
> rat meat as chicken breast, or not sell those fake
> cancer pills:

The rest of us need the government to keep assfucks like your from doing exactly such things as that. Again, being a part of any society is about surrendering individual sovereignty and following society's rules. If your development ceased at a point where you still childishly fancy yourself as some untamed stallion galloping proud and free across the unfenced sunlit prairies, please do yourself a favor and go book passage of out the country immediately. Nobody wants you here. We put people like you in jail and leave them there for a long time. Consider this fair warning.

abelard Wrote:
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> I've had occasion to see what school kids in
> europe eat and you wouldn't believe it. No wonder
> we eat poorly if we grow up thinking this is what
> food tastes like.

School lunches abroad tend to include a starch and multiple veggies. Animal protein (if any) is more likely to come from fish than meat. The French often get credit for serving higher class school meals, but 5-star affairs they are not.

Clear out while you can Wrote:
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> 7xp3n Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Herp derp, I should be able to do what I want.
>
> ABSOLUTELY NOT, you assfuck sociophobe.
>
> > I don't need the government to tell me things
> like I
> > can't steal my neighbor's cable, or rape my
> niece,
> > or not take a shit on a school playground. Or
> sell
> > rat meat as chicken breast, or not sell those
> fake
> > cancer pills:
>
> The rest of us need the government to keep
> assfucks like your from doing exactly such things
> as that. Again, being a part of any society is
> about surrendering individual sovereignty and
> following society's rules. If your development
> ceased at a point where you still childishly fancy
> yourself as some untamed stallion galloping proud
> and free across the unfenced sunlit prairies,
> please do yourself a favor and go book passage of
> out the country immediately. Nobody wants you
> here. We put people like you in jail and leave
> them there for a long time. Consider this fair
> warning.

Oh, the mindlessness Wrote:
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> FCPS meanwhile serves 140,000 meals
> per day at 176 different locations. You simply
> can't accomplish that by making stuff from scratch
> on-site every day.

Fairfax County schools did at least some of the cooking on site into the 1980s. It can be done, and on the current scale. It would be more expensive to do it that way.

In college I participated in a couple of taste testing sessions. When those same items hit the student serving lines, they were not the same. You are producing on a much larger scale for people who may be served over an extended period of time. When you add the necessity of producing at an alternate location even earlier, and then transporting the food to the site where it is being served, there is even a greater chance for the food to degrade.

I will say this for FCPS. At least they try. Part of the problem is they are producing for a more diverse population. They are also trying to produce and serve foods that some may want, but which are not ideally suited to the production and distribution facilities that FCPS uses.

You're going out of your way by blaming outsiders. Fairfax has its own gang of indigenous foodies who have working for years to turn the school menu into macrobiotic mucilege. I remember being totally bored listening to one of these characters carrying on about the value of organic green beans. As if anyone but a few anorexics would even touch a fork to them. I also remember hearing something about Springfield school board member Elizabeth Schultz wanting all kinds of money to turn a closed school into a test kitchen. That sounds like a guarantee of even more cardboard quality food on the school menu. So, while it may suit your political agenda to bash Mrs. Obama, your real problem lies much closer to home.

Tom_Mason Wrote:
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> As if anyone but a few anorexics would even touch a
> fork to them.

Yeah because eating healthy must mean you're an anorexic. If you're not stuffing McDoubles down your fat mouth, you're not normal... at least that's the way all the fat fucks in the country make it seem.

>School lunches abroad tend to include a starch and multiple veggies. Animal protein (if any) is more likely to come from fish than meat.

Not the ones in Germany - school lunch there means 'meat'. I was there once for a 2-week thing and we ate so much meat at every meal that we finally requested something else. Shameful for an American to admit and it was really good, but I actually had eaten enough meat.

I don't know about Fairfax, but school lunches where I grew up in the 60s and 70s were wonderful. Everything was made from scratch on site - and it tasted GOOD. Plus it was, for the most part, healthy.

I remember the first time I went to an event at my son's Fairfax County elementary school and had lunch. It was inedible. I couldn't believe we were serving our kids this stuff.

You can't teach kids to appreciate healthy, good tasting food if they don't experience it. Yes, parents should teach their kids proper nutrition and serve healthy meals, but a lot of them don't. There are too many obese children in this country to ignore this aspect of their learning.

They always sucked. Im talking from the mid sixtes we used to call the pizza an abortion on a bun and the meat loaf mutilated monkey meat. It all sucked. The spagetti sauce had some kind of cubed soy in it. About the only thing not screwed up was the ice cream sandwiches or cones if you were lucky enough to have a spare quarter. Once in high school a pack of smokes cost the same as lunch and the smokes usually won out.