My daughter's teacher tells the class to pray. - Atheist Nexus2015-03-03T20:08:16Zhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/forum/topics/my-daughters-teacher-tells-the?commentId=2182797%3AComment%3A864344&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noUnfortunately, this is how mo…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-06-14:2182797:Comment:8643442010-06-14T17:03:05.972ZPaul T. Bennethumhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/PaulTBennethum
Unfortunately, this is how most religious people do things. I bet she even calls herself a christian. Meeting face to face might not be a good idea because folks like that will do their best to martyr themselves to make anyone that believes in something they don't look bad. Your daughter could become a target of holy wrath as well. You might have to just grin and bear it for the time being all things considered. I know that sucks but...
Unfortunately, this is how most religious people do things. I bet she even calls herself a christian. Meeting face to face might not be a good idea because folks like that will do their best to martyr themselves to make anyone that believes in something they don't look bad. Your daughter could become a target of holy wrath as well. You might have to just grin and bear it for the time being all things considered. I know that sucks but... If the underdog of the moment…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-06-14:2182797:Comment:8643312010-06-14T16:53:57.771ZAudiodefhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/Audiodef
If the underdog of the moment had been in the practice of keeping a low profile, today's fascism would be Disneyland in comparison to what would have evolved.<br />
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If someone is fundamentally violating your rights, they win by default if you "keep a low profile". That's exactly what they want. Speaking up might get you hurt or worse - but what kind of world do you want to live in?<br />
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I am not just preaching. I'm in a similar position and I take the speak-up approach. I get all kinds of BS in the…
If the underdog of the moment had been in the practice of keeping a low profile, today's fascism would be Disneyland in comparison to what would have evolved.<br />
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If someone is fundamentally violating your rights, they win by default if you "keep a low profile". That's exactly what they want. Speaking up might get you hurt or worse - but what kind of world do you want to live in?<br />
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I am not just preaching. I'm in a similar position and I take the speak-up approach. I get all kinds of BS in the process, but I like who I have to face in the mirror. Being the only few people of…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-06-14:2182797:Comment:8643242010-06-14T16:50:46.980ZAudiodefhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/Audiodef
Being the only few people of any radical difference from the norm is hard. I'm with you in spirit, however you decide to handle this. Maybe try the ACLU? The school is violating your civil liberties to raise your child according to your ethics.
Being the only few people of any radical difference from the norm is hard. I'm with you in spirit, however you decide to handle this. Maybe try the ACLU? The school is violating your civil liberties to raise your child according to your ethics. This is a violation of the fi…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-06-14:2182797:Comment:8643182010-06-14T16:48:39.381ZAudiodefhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/Audiodef
This is a violation of the first amendment. Visit the school, talk to the principal, and tell him or her that unless this changes, you will take legal action.
This is a violation of the first amendment. Visit the school, talk to the principal, and tell him or her that unless this changes, you will take legal action. According to http://www.relig…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-06-05:2182797:Comment:8509092010-06-05T23:42:37.106ZOlga Spelts (Human Bean)http://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/OlgaSpeltsHumanBean
According to <a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/ps_pra9.htm" target="_blank">http://www.religioustolerance.org/ps_pra9.htm</a> you are on the right side of the law and have right to get her to stop. Shes breaking the law. You can sue if she doesnt stop or if she singles your kid out to blame for the lack of prayer sessions going on.<br />
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"The one place where prayer is not normally permitted is in the classroom itself when a class is in session. The latter would violate the principle of…
According to <a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/ps_pra9.htm" target="_blank">http://www.religioustolerance.org/ps_pra9.htm</a> you are on the right side of the law and have right to get her to stop. Shes breaking the law. You can sue if she doesnt stop or if she singles your kid out to blame for the lack of prayer sessions going on.<br />
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"The one place where prayer is not normally permitted is in the classroom itself when a class is in session. The latter would violate the principle of church-state separation which is defined by court interpretations of the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution"<br />
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If this is just between you and the teacher and the principal how can it get out? I'm just wondering. I dont exactly know the sociology of small religious Texas towns or the racial element in them. I live in CO and am all too familiar with the Focus on the Family evangelical nonsense though! You might also want to document the teachers behavior for added proof in case it goes to the court. "Kids, we can't pray, all bec…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-06-05:2182797:Comment:8509032010-06-05T23:35:19.161ZOlga Spelts (Human Bean)http://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/OlgaSpeltsHumanBean
"Kids, we can't pray, all because of Keia"<br />
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I think she can take further legal/policy action-especially if the principal hears about it. If it continues I think she can sue.
"Kids, we can't pray, all because of Keia"<br />
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I think she can take further legal/policy action-especially if the principal hears about it. If it continues I think she can sue. I think you also have the law…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-06-05:2182797:Comment:8508122010-06-05T21:18:59.854ZOlga Spelts (Human Bean)http://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/OlgaSpeltsHumanBean
I think you also have the law on your side. I would be very pissed as well and who hasnt been 'there' when youre about to explode at someones disregard for personal autonomy. You might want to go to the principal or school council as well to get back up. I hate how the Christian fundamentalists feel that they can simply disregard law and respect to students private beliefs to force their religion down innocent childrens throats.<br />
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This site says:<br />
"The one place where prayer is not normally…
I think you also have the law on your side. I would be very pissed as well and who hasnt been 'there' when youre about to explode at someones disregard for personal autonomy. You might want to go to the principal or school council as well to get back up. I hate how the Christian fundamentalists feel that they can simply disregard law and respect to students private beliefs to force their religion down innocent childrens throats.<br />
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This site says:<br />
"The one place where prayer is not normally permitted is in the classroom itself when a class is in session. The latter would violate the principle of church-state separation which is defined by court interpretations of the 1st Amendment to the U.S. Constitution"<br />
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<a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/ps_pra9.htm" target="_blank">http://www.religioustolerance.org/ps_pra9.htm</a><br />
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(you might be able to sue if the crazy fundie doesnt want to stop)<br />
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Maybe to add credence and leverage you can tape it? This can be valuable in court and as evidence to what the teacher is doing. Well being more serious. Brin…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-05-26:2182797:Comment:8354292010-05-26T15:27:23.759ZAbnormalhttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/Dave665
Well being more serious. Bringing this up reminds me of when I went to school in Louisiana and the teacher brought in this guy in a suit pulling red wagon full of tiny bibles. He said he was a member of the Gideon society and he proceeded to ask the class who believed in God. Needless to say all the kids raised their hand I remember I had to think about it because I didn't really believe in God and I was only in 4th grade and kids can be cruel. I ended up raising my hand. He handed everyone a…
Well being more serious. Bringing this up reminds me of when I went to school in Louisiana and the teacher brought in this guy in a suit pulling red wagon full of tiny bibles. He said he was a member of the Gideon society and he proceeded to ask the class who believed in God. Needless to say all the kids raised their hand I remember I had to think about it because I didn't really believe in God and I was only in 4th grade and kids can be cruel. I ended up raising my hand. He handed everyone a copy of the bible.<br />
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The good news I got a bible and even tried reading, but that just helped cement my stance even than that bible is fucking boring and I just don't believe in God. If the principal is now leadi…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-05-25:2182797:Comment:8346492010-05-25T18:12:42.080ZJennifer Nicolehttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/JenniferAnker
If the principal is now leading a campus-wide prayer request or whatever, you need to get the really big dogs involved. They are blatantly ignoring the law. Contact the ACLU as suggested previously. &gt;.X<br />
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I went to a TX high school as well, and was surprised to hear prayers led at the football games.
If the principal is now leading a campus-wide prayer request or whatever, you need to get the really big dogs involved. They are blatantly ignoring the law. Contact the ACLU as suggested previously. &gt;.X<br />
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I went to a TX high school as well, and was surprised to hear prayers led at the football games. "Honor the Texas flag; I pled…tag:www.atheistnexus.org,2010-05-25:2182797:Comment:8346422010-05-25T18:05:19.179ZJennifer Nicolehttp://www.atheistnexus.org/profile/JenniferAnker
"Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible."<br />
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I used to have to say this every day in high school, and yet I had to google it to recall it. XD I've blocked it from my memory somehow.
"Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible."<br />
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I used to have to say this every day in high school, and yet I had to google it to recall it. XD I've blocked it from my memory somehow.