COUTS

A Quarterly Newsletter for the
Descendants of the Couts Family #16
A SPECIAL THANKS TO EVERYONE
WHO SENT A COPY OF THE ARTICLE!!!
THE PASSING OF A CALIFORNIO
Submitted by Sue Blass
In today's San Diego Union there is
quite an article about
the death of W. R. Couts,
believed to be the oldest living
descendant of the pioneer
Couts and Bandini families of
Old Town and North County.
He died on Friday (Mar. 31)
in a Long Beach hospital after
a short illness. He was 94.
He has a grand-nephew,
John Daley, in Oceanside, who
commented, "It is important
to note his passing because
he was our link to the Californios
period of Southern
California history." The Californios
were property and business owners
who owned the land before California
became a state.
Couts' great-grandfather was
Cave Johnson Couts, who married
teenager Ysadora Bandini in Old Town.
His grandparents were William
Bandini Couts and Cristina Estudillo.
His father, William Bandini Couts,
Jr., wife Adele Veal, was born in
the Estudillo home in Old Town.
He ran a store in Pala and owned property
there, including the land on
which the Pala mission was
built. He gave that site to
the Roman Catholic Church.
W.R. Couts was born March 4,
1906 in Oceanside. He was preceded
in death by his first wife, Georgia Hughes
of Oceanside and his second wife,
Maybelle Walsh of Los Angeles. Besides
John Daley, he leaves nephews,
nieces and cousins throughout
California including Bill and Dolly
Daley, Arthur Couts, Dianne Price,
Kathy Kelley, Joan Dahl, Bernaradine
Rink, Barney Holloran, Terri Ekval
and Linda Randall. Burial will be
in Calvary Cemetery in Los Angeles
where several other Couts and
Bandini family members are buried.
You may already have this info.
but thought it appropriate
for your records. I still have not
been diligent enough to dig into
a connection with my immediate
family but perhaps when life slows
down and I am more stuck to
my computer I will find something.
Thank you for your efforts. Sue Blass
W. R. COUTS, 94; MEMBER OF PIONEER FAMILIES
This article appeared yesterday in the
San Diego newspaper and thought I
would share it with you for your next newsletter.
Summitted by Kevin Currin
San Diego Union-Tribune - April 3, 2000
William Reid Couts, believed to be the oldest living
descendant of the pioneer Couts and Bandini families
of Old Town and North County, died Friday, March
31st, in a Long Beach hospital after a short illness.
He was 94. Mr. Couts was also related to the
Estudillos of Old Town.
"The great part about my uncle was he was
related to everybody," said Couts' grand-nephew,
John Daley of Oceanside. Daley noted there
weren't that many families here in the early 1800s.
"It is important to note his passing," Daley said,
because he was our link to the Californios period
Southern California history."
The Californios were property and business owners
owned the land before California became a state.
Many of them, such as Couts' great-grandfather,
Cave Johnson Couts, owned huge Mexican land
grants including both Rancho Guajome, in Oceanside
and Vista, and Rancho Buena Vista in Vista.
Cave Johnson Couts had come to California with the
U.S. army in 1849, married teen-ager Ysadora Bandini
in Old Town and received Rancho Guajome
as a wedding present.
The old Bandini home has become a popular
Old Town restaurant.
Mr. Couts' grandparents were William Bandini
Couts and Cristina Estudillo of Old Town. Mr.
Couts' father was born in the Estudillo home in
Old Town. It has been restored as a visitor
attraction in Old Town State Park.
Mr. Couts' parents were William Bandini Couts,
Jr. and Adele Veal, whose father, William, ran
a store in Pala and owned property there, including
the land on which the Pala mission was built. He
gave that site to the Roman Catholic Church.
Mr. Couts was born March 4, 1906 in Oceanside.
As a youth, he hunted, fished, and rode horses
on the Old Rancho Guajome, memories he recalled
for a cable-television special titled, "Cadillac Of the Adobes."
Mr. Couts donated original documents signed by
Presidents Polk and Tyler and a letter from California
Gov. John Bigler to the San Diego Historical Society
and gave other original documents of the era to the
Oceanside Historical Society.
He had lived in Long Beach all his adult life, visiting
Oceanside often. Daley said he drove Mr. Couts out
to Rancho Guajome, now a county park, about once
a year to relive his memories. "He was true to that
era, no question about it," Daley said.
He said Mr. Couts was in good health
all his life and drove himself from his Long Beach
home to Oceanside early last month to celebrate his
94th birthday. His death, of heart disease, came after
only a few days of failing health, Daley said.
Mr. Couts was preceded in death by his
first wife, Georgia Hughes of Oceanside
and his second wife, Maybelle Walsh of
Los Angeles. Besides John Daley, he leaves
nephews, nieces and cousins throughout California,
including Bill and Dolly Daley, Arthur Couts, Dianne
Price, Kathy Kelley, Joan Dahl, Bernardine Rink,
Barney Halloran, Terri Ekval and Linda Randall.
Funeral services are expected to be Thursday, April 6th,
but final arrangements are still pending. Burial will be
in Calvary Cemetery in Los Angeles where several other
Couts and Bandini family members are buried.
CHRISLEY COUTS SR.
Has anyone found any more information on Chrisley Sr.
or gotten copies of any of the following information?
Let me know, please. If anyone has information on
Chrisley's wife Sarah Wright, who married William
Collins, we would appreciate it.
Chrisley Couts, His Deed and covenant for 320 acres of
land on Sulphur Fork of Red River Tennessee County
Sworn by the oath of Jacob Pennington as inscribing
Witness at Term, Territory of the United States South
of the River Ohio:
Tennessee County September 24th day 1792, This Indenture
made the fifth day of October in the Year of our Lord One
thousand Seven hundred and Ninety, Between Mathew
Mouldin of the County of Lincoln and State of Virginia
of the One part and the heirs of Chrisley Couts of Tennessee
and the State of North Carolina of the other part Witnesseth
that for and in consideration of the sum of five hundred pounds
to the said Mathew Mouldin in hand paid by Chrisley Couts
the Receipt and payment where of is hereby acknowledged hath
granted, bargained, sold, aliened, conveyed and confirmed and
by these presents Doth Grant, Bargain, Sell, Alien, Convey and
confirm unto the said heirs of Chrisley Couts their heir and
assigns forever a certain tract or parcel of land containing
three hundred twenty acres be the same more or less lying
and being in the County of Tennessee on the Sulphur Fork,
a branch of the Red River, Beginning at a black oak Jacob
Pennington Corner, thence North one hundred and sixty poles
to a black oak and hickory thence West two hundred and
twenty poles, twenty poles to the Beginning being part of a
tract of Six Hundred and forty acres granted to the said
Mathew Mouldin by the State of North Carolina Grant being
dated the tenth day of July Seventeen Hundred and Eighty
eight and numbered two hundred and seventy three with the
appurtenances with their and every of their Rights, members
and appurtenances whatsoever and every part and parcel
thereof and all Rents, dues, Services and profits to them or
either of them belonging and appurtaining to have and to
hold the said land and premises hereby granted with the
appurtenances unto the said heirs of Chrisley Couts their
heirs and assigns to the only proper use and behoof of the
said heirs of Chrisley Couts their heirs and assigns forever
and the said Mathew Mouldin for himself and his heir
Executors and administrators doth hereby promise covenant
and agree that he shall and will at all time here after warrant
and forever defend the said land and premises to the said
heirs of Chrisley Couts, their heirs and assigns against all
lawful Claims and demand whatsoever whereby the above
mentioned premises may be affected or incumbered contrary
to the true intent and meaning of these presents. In witness
whereof the said Mathew Mouldin hath hereunto set his
hand and affixed his seal the day and year first above written.
Signed dated and delivered in presence of Andrew Thompson,
John Couts, Jacob Pennington. Signed Mathew Mouldin,
his seal affixed. Test. Hugh Lewis P.R.T.C.
Robertson County Tennessee Deed Book J Page 121-
August 14, 1811 John bought the above land.
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THE PETERSBURG PRESS~ APRIL 25, 1963
James A. Couts, a resident of this city, passed away Friday,
April 19, at 5:08 a.m. at the Good Samaritan Hospital in
Vincennes. He was a retired coal miner. Mr. Couts, the
son of James M. and Mary (Connor) Couts was born May
27, 1887 and was 75 years of age at the time of his death.
Surviving is the widow, Mrs. Flora Couts; two sons,
Aaron Couts, Petersburg: D. Lawrence Cuts, Littleton
Colo: two daughters, Mrs. Ruth Yarber, La Puente, Calif.
Mrs. Alice b. Yeager, Lawrence, Indiana: four brothers,
Emory V., Vincennes; Wilford H, Beecher City, Ill; Cecil
and Henry, both of Evansville, two sisters Mrs. Edith Harris,
Evansville, Mrs. Ella E. Allen, Finley, Ohio; 15 grandchildren
and eight Great-grandchildren. Funeral services were conducted
Monday, April 22, at 2 p.m. at the Harris funeral Home with
the Rev. Wilkes W. Ragsdale officiating. Burial will
be in the Walnut Hills cemetery.
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ARTICLES FROM THE SAN DIEGO
UNION AND OCEANSIDE BLADE
June 11, 1874 SAN DIEGO UNION Col. Cave J. Couts,
of Guajome, in this county, died at the Horton House shortly
before twelve o'clock last night. Col. Couts had long suffered
from aneurysm of the aorta, and only recently visited San
Francisco for medical counsel there. On his return to the city,
some two weeks ago, he was attacked with a violent paroxysm
of the disease, and has been lying at the point of death ever since.
Col. Couts came to California as an officer of dragoons in
1849. He had charges of the military party which conducted
the survey of the boundary line between California and Mexico.
Resigning from the army he made his home in this county,
where he has continuously resided since 1849. He married
more than twenty years ago Theodora, a daughter of Don Juan
Bandini, a lady whose nobility of character and Christian graces
are known throughout this section of the State. This devoted wife
and eight children now mourn the loss of a kind husband and
indulgent father. Col. Couts was a native of Tennessee. He was
a graduate of West Point Military Academy,
and served through the war with Mexico.
March 21, 1896 OCEANSIDE BLADE
Willie and Tinie Couts got up a surprise party on their mother
last Friday night, the 13th, which was a success in every
particular. Games and dancing was the program carried out,
beside, there was a banquet of "good things" furnished by
the surprisers. Among those present were Mrs. Gauld, the
Misses Della and Allie Stearns, Allie Tuttle and Vallie
Jones, and Messrs. Melville Goetz and Bert Wilbur.
January 23, 1897 OCEANSIDE BLADE
Mrs. Y. B. de Couts is again quite ill at her fine home at
Guajome. W. B. Couts went out to San Luis Rey Mission
and Guajome Wednesday with a party consisting of Mrs.
E. L. Johnson, Eliza J. Merrick, M. D., and Miss Irene
Merrick, guests of the Mira Mar, and coming from Cleveland, Ohio.
March 27, 1897 OCEANSIDE BLADE
Sued for Divorce. Cave J. Couts, one of the best known
residents of San Diego county, and whose work as a
civil engineer and later as the owner of the rich Ranchita
gold mine at Banner has made him prominent, was
yesterday made the defendant in a divorce suit instituted
by his wife, Elizabeth B. Couts. Mr. Couts is at present
stopping at the Brewster hotel, where the summons was
served upon him. The complaint is said to be based upon
somewhat sensational grounds, it being alleged, among
other things, that incriminating letters from a fair lady
friend were found in Mr. Couts' pockets. The charges
were numerous, and while no co-respondents are named,
the allegations are set forth at some length, and the case
will naturally attract considerable attention. Mrs. Couts
also prays for custody of their only child, Cave J. Couts,
Jr., about eight years old. She is at present with the boy
on a visit to relatives at St. Louis, Mo. Before her marriage
some years ago to Mr. Couts she was Miss Elizabeth Clemens,
daughter of Bryant Clemens, who was a brother of the late
Jere W. Clemens of this city. Mrs. Couts inherited a snug
sum from her uncle's estate. --San Diego Union.
May 22, 1897 OCEANSIDE BLADE J. F.
Couts returned from Los Angeles Thursday, where he
had been for a week at the bedside of his mother.
Parker Dear, of Escondido, a son-in-law of Mrs. Y. B.
de Couts, who is lying critically ill at Los Angeles,
returned from the latter place Thursday afternoon, on
his way homeward. He reports that there is no hope of
her recovery. She is suffering from a surgical operation
performed for the removal of a corn and also from diabetes.
June 19, 1897 OCEANSIDE BLADE Couts Divorce Case
The divorce case of Elizabeth B. Couts vs. Cave J.
Couts came to a close in the superior court, when Judge
Hughes rendered a decree in favor of Mrs. Couts on
account of trouble between herself and husband at the
Bella Vista boarding house in this city on December 10
and 11 last. The community property is to be equally
divided between the parties, but no decree was made
in regard to the custody of the nine-year-old son of Mr.
and Mrs. Couts. If they fail to agree on the question of his
custody, the court will take a hand in the matter. Evidence
during the trial based upon the allegation in the complaint
that "other ladies" had acted indiscreetly toward the
defendant showed conclusively that the "other ladies"
had upon no occasion acted in any such manner, and
Judge Hughes stated that their character and conduct
were above suspicion. --San Diego Union.
November 7, 1897 OCEANSIDE BLADE
Richard Egan, Herbert Crouch and Samuel Hunting have been
appointed referees to make a partition of the property
involved in a dispute in the case of Couts vs. O'Neill.
The property in the case is a portion of Guajome ranch.
November 20, 1897 OCEANSIDE BLADE
J. F. Couts was in from Guajome Thursday and was
seen leaving town with a carriage load of friends. A
stipulation has been signed and filed by the attorneys
in the case of Risdon Iron Works vs. Cave J. Couts
and Lillie B. Couts by which it is agreed that the plaintiff
take judgment for $1000 against each of the defendants,
but that no allowance be made for attorney fees or costs
of the suit and that all execution be stayed for ninety days.
December 25, 1897 OCEANSIDE BLADE
Elizabeth B. Couts has transferred to Cave J. Couts five
acres of land in this city, with other property.--National
City Record. The referee's report in the partition suit of
Susie G. Couts against Richard O'Neill et al. was confirmed
Saturday by Judge Torrance, and a final decrees was ordered.
The property involved embraces the Guajome
ranch and other property. October 29, 1898 OCEANSIDE BLADE
Judgement for the plaintiff has been rendered in the case of
C. M. Winston vs. Ysidora Couts Gray an action to foreclose
a mortgage on lot 3 on Guajome ranch.
February 4, 1899 OCEANSIDE BLADE
Harry Couts met with a serious accident Wednesday.
He and a schoolmate, Charlie Wentworth had returned
from hunting and were sitting in the office at Coleman's
livery stable talking. Mr. Coleman started to open the
office door which stuck and in jerking it open Wentworth's
gun which was standing outside jarred down and discharged,
the contents passing through the door and entering Harry's
left heel and right leg. Mr. Coleman picked the boy up, who
made no sound and seemed dazed or unaware of his injury,
and obtained medical aid immediately. He was taken to San
Diego that night, where at last accounts he was doing
well, and will be around again in two months.
February 11, 1899 OCEANSIDE BLADE
The Guajome homestead of 100 acres has been
sold to C. J. Couts for $4,500.
February 25, 1899 OCEANSIDE BLADE
Cave J. Couts as administrator and Dora Grey have filed
an objection to the petition of J. F. and R. L. Couts for
the sale of real estate belonging to the
estate of Cave J. Couts, deceased.
March 4, 1899 OCEANSIDE BLADE
Judge Torrance has granted the motion of Cave J. Couts
and Dora Gray to dismiss the proceedings and deny the
application of John F. and R. L. Couts for the sale of
real estate belonging to the estate of Cave J. Couts, deceased.
SOUTH-CENTRAL-KENTUCKY-request@rootsweb.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 12:16:38 -0600
From: Mark Lowe marklowe@nc5.infi.net Subject: Re: [SCKY]
land grants, Warren County & Ky
The land "South of the Green River" was originally reserved by
Virginia as bounty land for its military. Until 1797 no one
could enter a survey within this reservation except a soldier.
When Kentucky took charge of her own vacant lands, they
passed new legislation which opened up these vacant lands
to any person over the age of 21 who had a family. These
individuals were entitled to not less than 100 acres nor more
than 200 acres, but they must live on the land for one year
before they became the actual owner. The surveys for these
grants are in the Ky Land Office and copies are in the Ky
History Center Library. There was also the "Kentucky Land
Warrants" which provided for the sale of vacant lands by the
state between 1816 and 1873. The lands were offered to any
resident of Kentucky for $20.00 per 100 acres. The purchaser
received a land warrant from the Ky Land Office, which
authorized the owner to locate and survey a particular acreage.
When completed and returned to the land office, a land patent
would be issued to the owner. Source: Jillson, Willard Rouse,
Originally published as Filson Club
Publications, Number 33, Louisville, 1925, (Genealogical
Publishing Co. Inc: Baltimore, 1971) Reprint 1994.
Mark Lowe, 505 Josephine Street, Springfield, TN 37172\
marklowe@nc5.infi.net Biography of Allen County, Kentucky
http://www.starbase21.com/kybiog/allen/barton.js.txt
Kentucky: A History of the State, Battle, Perrin,
& Kniffin, 3rd ed., 1886. Allen County. JAMES S. BARTON
was born July 14, 1839, in Barren County, Ky., and is one
of the representative farmers of Allen County. He is the
third of three boys and two girls (two boys and two girls
lived to be grown) born to Caleb and Sarah (Siddnes)[sic]
[Siddens] Barton, who were born and reared in Barren
County, Ky. Caleb was a farmer, a son of James Barton,
who was born in Virginia and of English descent. He was
a farmer and came to Kentucky about 1800, and settled in
Barren County. His latter days were spent on a farm of 600
acres on the banks of Barren River in Allen County. James
S. Barton's mother was a daughter of William Siddnes
[Siddens], who married a Miss Housewright. Mr. Siddnes
[sic][Siddens] had owned about 900 acres of land, where
our subject now resides, but which he sold before his death.
James S. was but five years old at this father's death. He
remained with his mother, who had married, until he was
thirteen years old, when he lived with his brother-in-law
and others and in this way
secured a sufficient means to attend school after he arrived
at the age of eighteen. After attending school for several
months he engaged at farming where he now resides,
and has lived ever since, with the exception of three years
during the war, which he spent in Monroe County. He is
the possessor of 340 acres of excellent land on the south
banks of Barren River, 200 of which are cleared and in
a fine state of cultivation, improved with a good residence.
He has been successful in life, acquiring what he has by
his own efforts. He married in January, 1860, Sarah Jane
Howard, of Monroe County, Ky., a daughter of Clemons
and Phebe (Chism) Howard, who were born and reared
in Monroe County, of English descent, the father a farmer.
To Mr. and Mrs. Barton nine children were born: Mary E.
(Bradburn), William T., Sallie C. (Hudson), John C., Phebe
E., James M., Caleb H., Fannie P. and Lucy B. Mr. Barton
and wife are members of the Baptist Church. He was formerly
a Granger. In politics he is a Democrat and case his first
presidential vote for Stephen A. Douglas. Barton Bradburn
Chism Douglas Housewright Howard Hudson Siddens
Siddnes = Barren Monroe VA
http://www.starbase21.com/kybiog/allen/stark.txt
Kentucky: A History of the State, Battle, Perrin,
& Kniffin, 3rd ed., 1886. Allen County. THE STARK
FAMILY may justly be numbered among the pioneers
and influential families which have been identified with
many of the best interests of Allen County. Jeremiah
Stark, the progenitor, emigrated from Virginia to
Warren County (now Allen), Ky., about the beginning
of the present century. He purchased a large body of
land, upon which he settled with his children. He was
an extensive planter and an active member of the Baptist
Church, building for that denomination the church at
Gainesville, where it now worships and where his
remains are interred. His children were James, Daniel,
William, John, Bashaba (Morehead), Elizabeth (Godley),
Jesse, Raleigh and Thomas. James Stark, a native of
Culpeper County, Va., born in 1776, was an active
politician; owned sixty-five slaves at the time of his death;
lived sixty-three years with his wife, Elizabeth Duncan
Stark, who survived him three years, and died in 1860.
His children were Theophilus, Charles C., Dillard G.,
Frances (Kelley), Emily (Pulliam), and Maria D. (Richey).
Charles C. Stark was born May 21, 1804, in Culpeper
County, Va; removed in 1808 with his parents to Allen
County, Ky., where he now resides. His wife, Lucy S.,
daughter of George and Mary (Taylor) Green, of Hart
County, was born in 1807 and died in 1867. Their
offspring are as follows: James T., Elizabeth F. (Grubbs),
Maria E. (Spillman) and John W. James T. Stark was born
May 17, 1833, in Edmonson County, Ky., and in 1844
removed with his parents to the northern part of Allen
County, where he has since resided. He secured a good
education at Camden Seminary, and engaged in teaching
ten years. His first wife, whom he married April 11, 1861,
was Fannie, daughter of Bradford and Fannie (Pulliam)
Dodd, of Barren County (born 1845; died March 20, 1863);
and to them was born one child, Charles B. February 23, 1864,
Mr. Stark married Mary J., daughter of Hon. Thomas J. and
Nancy P. (Lewis) Morehead, of Allen County (born July 14,
1843), and their union has been favored by the birth of Thomas
J., John C., Nancy E., George R., James G., Leon, Karl and
Fay G. Mr. Stark's possessions are the result of his own efforts.
He has served as school commissioner of Allen County two years,
and was twice elected sheriff, filling the position four years. He is
a farmer by occupation, having 345 acres of productive and well
improved land in a good state of cultivation. He is a member of the
Masonic fraternity; in religious belief he is a Baptist and in politics
is identified with the Democratic party. John W. Stark was born
October, 18, 1841, near Rocky Hill Station, Edmonson Co., Ky.,
and in infancy removed with his parents to Allen County, locating
at Gainesville, where he has since resided. In 1861 he enlisted in
Capt. Ridley's company of "Buckner's Guards," remaining in that
service until the disbandment of the company at Corinth, in 1862,
after the death of Gen. Alert S. Johnston. He was by the side of Gen.
Zollicoffer when the latter was slain at the battle of Mill Spring.
Mr. Stark obtained a good business education, and is a man well
versed in standard works and the current literature of the day.
October 16, 1867, he married Eliseph C., daughter of James M.
and Frances (Jewell) Stark, of Barren County (born December 10,
1848), and to them were born Charles C., John W., James D.,
Claire, Elizabeth, Nettie and Katie R. In the commencement of his
business career, aside from his own exertions, Mr. Stark frequently
had the assistance of his father's endorsements, by which means
he was enabled to establish a successful business. He commenced
merchandising February 10, 1874, in Gainesville and his venture
has prospered. He also owns about 800 acres of good farming land,
which he is having cultivated to advantage. He is a Royal Arch
Mason, and in politics affiliates with the Democratic party. He has
been postmaster since the establishment of the office at Gainesville.
Stark Dodd Duncan Godley Green Grubbs Jewell Kelley Lewis
Morehead Pulliam Richey Ridley Spillman Taylor Zollicoffer =
Corith-MS Culpeper-VA Barren-KY Edmonson-KY
Hart-KY Warren-KY Allen-KY
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INTERNET RESEARCH
From: ChazTuna@aol.com Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 18:32:30
EST Subject: Counts - Kouts
Hi Barbara, Here is an exert from the book, "The Armentrout
Family History 1739 - 1978" by, Russell Armentrout. I got a
copy through the interlibrary loan from the Sutro Library in
San Francisco, Ca. Any Armentrout researcher should obtain
a copy of this reference. It's a fabulous piece of work. I have
ran across more on the is Kouts connection but I didn't file
any of it. Try one of the Family Tree Makers family disk.
Probably vol. 1, 2, or 3, There
are Armentrouts/Ermantraudts in Vol. 1 and 3 for sure.
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"The Armentrout Family History 1739 - 1978" Some time
after Johannes' death, his widow Anna Elizabeth married
Johannes Kouts who for a time lived in the Adam Hedderich
household. However, after a time Kouts forced his wife to
demand an administration and settlement of the estate of her
former husband. Apparently, through these efforts Kouts
was appointed by the Augusta County Virginia Court as
executor of Johannes Ermentraudt's estate. With this
accomplished Kouts, assumed control of the combined
estate and the mortgage bond in Pennsylvania. This
combined with other obnoxious behavior proved too
much for Adam and he forced his new son-in-law
and wife to leave his home. In August 1760 Adam
Hedderich brought a civil suit in the Augusta County
court against Johannes Kouts to recover his half of the
combined estate and the 2/3 of Johannes Ermentroudt's
half for his 2 grandsons. Enjoy, Charlie
Subj: Couts Family Line Date:2/5/00 6:04:38
PM Pacific Standard Time From: Nthornt
I am wondering if our lines of Couts may be related
although my line is spelled Coots/Koots. My ggg-grandmother
was Jestern Coots. Born March, 1816 in Tennessee. Can you
give me any information to say - yes related or no not related?
I can provide other information if you think there may be a
connection.
Thank you for your assistance. You can e-mail me at
nthornt@aol.com Nancy Sears Thornton
Subj: Re: Couts Date: 2/10/00 8:42:00 AM Pacific
Standard Time From: Phalynx50
Dear Barbara, I feel like it's Christmas. I'm new to computer
& have just started with my family tree maker. I just read in
book about gedcom . That would be wonderful. I feel like I
can't reciprocate though. I'm so excited I'm probably not
making much sense either. What a blessing you are. You
know that feeling when you are just stuck & have used all
your knowledge & then the door opens. WOW. I noticed
too, I didn't have some of the children of John. My husband
got me a scanner for Christmas & hopefully I did this right.
I am enclosing the only piece of info I have which is a
guardianship of John's children. I have the census & marriage
on children as far as I knew. Please let me know about gedcom
& please let me help you in any way I can. My husbands family
is from Olney Ill. His grandma was a Wilson daughter of
Andrew Wilson whose mother was Rhoda Fleener. Rhoda's
mom was Eliza Couts. I have always wondered about a William
Couts who lived with Thomas Fleener & Eliza in 1850. He was
19. I thought he was a brother, but is not mentioned in these
guardian records. Then I thought he might have been a son
Of Eliza's before marriage. We knew nothing about the Couts
side except what little I found on my own. Thanks so much
again Pat Now that I know this I can't wait to see what else we
can find. Let me know if there is anything on my side you might want.
Subj: (no subject) Date: 2/10/00 12:38:01 PM Pacific
Standard Time From: Phalynx50
Barbara, It's me again. Was reading 2nd newsletter & discovered
Nicholas Couts. I have a Nicholas Koontz in Jefferson Co. Ky.
His daughter, Elizabeth married Martin Potteroff, or many other
spellings, who had son George, daughter Mary Ann that is
ggranmother on our Stanley side. Nicholas is buried in Nicholson
cemetery in Washington Co... Ind. We have a note that says he
was born in Maryland. WOW.
I really am a mature adult, just can't contain myself. I haven't
started my Stanley side on the computer yet, but I've got our line
on him in notebook form. Maybe I can reciprocate. Pat
Subj: Re: Couts
From: Phalynx50
Dear Barbara, I have sent, I hope my file on Couts.
This is my first attempt, I hope I did It right. There
are some differences. My reference was census on
children. Also, some of the Fleener children associated
with Thomas are his grandchildren. I read all you sent
last night & what a pleasure to see someone use reference
points. I have looked at other web pages, contacted these
people to ask about documentation & was told they had
it from good sources. That's scary. I never put anything
into tree till I can prove it or use a preponderance of evidence
when it gets so far back. I also looked at 1840 census on
Eliza & Thomas & there is a male child between 5-10, being
William Couts. They married in 1835 sooo he is either born
out of wedlock or she was married to a Couts & not her maiden
name! I go back up north in Nov. to visit husbands family
& will make a special trip to the surrounding counties to hopefully
clarify this matter. The gedcom on John direct would be most
helpful. Can I get copies of all the newsletters? I was at Warrick
several years ago & found in grantee-grantor books references to
deeds for John. It was book A. They could not locate Bk. A .
There were several deeds recorded. I hope this was OK to send ,
I don't want to overburden you with info. Let me know about
the rest of newsletters they are a wonderful source of info. Pat
Subj: Alvis Couts Date:2/12/00 From: ave.lee@excite.com (Lee Averett)
Hello, I am writing to see if you could please send me a GEDCOM
file for the Christopher Chrisley Jr. Couts(b. 1780) line. I am a
descendent of Alvis Couts and I would actually like to make the
connection to *all* of the rest of the Couts line and the descendents
thereof, from my line. I would welcome all the information
which you could provide, including sources of information.
Thanks Lee Averett Son of Richard Averett(a past
contributor of information)
Subj: Re: Couts Date: 2/14/00 From: Phalynx50
Barb, According to my records: Levi is married to Eleander
in 1850 & age 34. Born 1816. Census shows Levi & first
wife with Allen W. age 5 & Alvin R age 2. I sent
a Gedcom to Family tree. I haven't done one for me yet.
I'll work on that today. Sooo glad my report went through.
My program kept telling me to send it in Email form & it
looked like a mess. Which one came through right? The
formal report or the e-mail version? Pat. There is also a
William Couts marrying Charlotte Thompson 1856.
Subj: [Fwd: [Fwd: Couts]] From: marilyn ainsworth
mains@ipa.net Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 Hi Barbara,
Here's a little info from Lafayette County, MO.
Not my family - just a hobby for me.

That's all I can find and hope it helps a little. Marilyn
Subj: Re: You didn't tell me that you were on
line!! Date: 2/14/00 From:
mkmiddleton@juno.com
I have alot of info to send to you. I'm coping Aaron
Couts Probate Record in Morgan Co, Mo and also his
son Commodore Perry Couts. I just got online after
Christmas .I have been finding info on Genforum.
I hope you are doing well, tell everyone hello for me.
How is your brother Bo getting along? So if you
need anything email me. Your Cousin Michael Middleton
Subj:Teter Kautz Family Date:2/17/00 From:
Bboopbeard Barbara I received your address from
Earl Kesling. You probably already know I descend
from Teter Kautz Sr.'s sister who married Christopher
Kesling. I descend down through Teter Kesling, John
Kesling, Susan Kesling & George Blin, Adam Blin,
Oda Blin & Edward T. Beard, Millard Beard & then me.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks very much. Ethel Beard Simons
From: Launa genealau@sbceo.org Subject: Couts,
Holt Co., MO 1920 Census
Barb, Just got back from a couple of weeks in UT.
Only got one day in the Library. Darn! Will be
going back in June/July and also in Sept. Hope for
more days then. Ran across these while look for Birds
---20 of them in this Co. census along with Couts.
I don't recognize any of them off hand. How's school
going? Only 4 more months until the are out.
Catch ya later. Launa

Subj.: Barton - Graham From: Deno_47@hotmail.com
(Brad Green) Hello, my name is Brad Green and I descend
from Bavester Barton. I was wondering if you knew
anything about Bavester's parents or Berry Barton's wife
Barbara Graham? Also, I would be happy to share
any information I have on my family.
Subj.: Couts family From: marcia@inficad.com
(Marcia Shaulis) Hello, My name is Marcia Stalker
Shaulis, my Mothers name was Clarice Eugenia Couts
from Van Wert, Ohio. We are from Clarence Beers Couts
line. I have a slew of info about this family. Let me
know if you want it and will send it to you. thanks, Marcia
Subj.: Re: Check out Ancestral File Frame P.S.
From: Caroleing Subj: Barton/Wiseman
My grandmother is Nancy Emeline Barton-Wiseman.
Called Emma. Date of birth 1 Nov. 1861 place Paris
Tennessee died 31 Oct. 1942 Milwaukie Oregon Married
1879 to Joseph Acey Wiseman date of birth 09 Oct. 1857
Tuscumbia Missouri Died 02 Jun 1946 Milwaukie Oregon.
Link Church of Jesus Christ of later Day Saint. Family Search
Internet genealogy serve. Emeline is show to be Nancy J.
Barton. I have the names of Emeline & Joseph's 11 children,
some of grandchildren. I am trying to link Emeline with
Elizabeth Couts. date of birth about 1760, and Bavester
Barton, but reach lots of dead ends. Sincerely, Carole
Wiseman Curtis. P.S. Harold L. is my father, and his
middle name is Jackson not L. Carole
Hi there. No, the LDS ancestral files were already on the
LDS site. I have never sent them anything. So you too
believe there is a connection. That is good news. As I
said. I just started to look for Nancy Emeline Barton a
little over a month ago. The Wiseman link has been
on the LDS web site for over a year that I know of. Carole~
Subj.: Couts family in Missouri From: accent@asde.net
(Accent Printing) I will attempt soon to put together
all the information I can regarding my family. Believe
this branch of Couts' were in Gage County Nebraska
late 1800's, to Holt County in Missouri in about 1900.
I am 51 and dead-end in tracking back at my great-grandfather.
Maybe, when I get things together, you can help me bridge
the gap to Couts' in Tennessee or North Carolina or Germany
or somewhere. I just located you on the internet. Will do
my best to try and put things in some sort of logical sequence.
Is there a boilerplate or format which is standard in which I
can begin with myself and work backwards? If so, is it
available on line or in a program I can buy or acquire
somewhere? Please help.
I may be your long-lost cousin! Thanks, Rod Couts
(Yes, James F. Couts, Nebraska)
Subj: Couts in Missouri From: accent@asde.net The
information you forwarded me this morning was indeed
the break I was seeking. Solomon Byron Couts is my father,
William Barton Couts my grandfather and William Solomon
Couts my great-grandfather. That was as far as I could go
back. Do your records go back farther than 1870? Am I
German, Scotch or what? Thanks for the wonderful
information. You've whet my appetite to fill in the gaps.
Perhaps doing genealogy stuff would be cheaper than
prowling around at night on e-bay. From the auto date-
time record on your e-mail message to me, I guess I should
also thank you staying up late to locate the information
I requested. I will attempt to document and bring up to
date my generation of this chart and will try to get a
program which would allow me to forward it to you in a
form which could be added to your good work. Thanks
again and be assured I've added you to my list of favorites
on the net and to my e-mail address book. Rod Couts
Subj.: Couts website From: niterider@janics.com
(Steve Couch) To:bevans@coutsfamily.com
Hello, this is Willard Couch, of Joplin, Mo., and came
across your website of the Couts family. My uncle and
an aunt done the Couch family genealogy about 10 years
ago, now both are gone, I was left all of this hard work
that they had spent long hard hours searching. Our earliest
Couch, was a Jacob Couch, believed to have been born
around 1734 in Virginia, he died in 1797 and buried in
Greene County, TN. We can't find anything on him any
earlier. By accident we located some pay receipts from
the Revolutionary War, (30) to be exact for a Jacob Couts,
many people in those days could neither read or write or
spell, we believed this to be the same person. He served
in the 12th, 8th, and 4th Virginia Infantry Regiment, I
suppose soldiers had to enlist every 30 days. We have
no record of his father, mother, or wife, or any sibling,
we do have information on his children. Please get back
with me even if you have nothing. I'm kinda new at this,
and I do have a lot of trouble Thank You, Willard Couch
Subj: (no subject) From: Teresataylor Barb,
My name is Teresa Taylor and through my maternal
grandmother's line, we are connected to William H.
Farmer and I think Elizabeth Couts. I am somewhat
confused and hesitate to say I am definitely from the
Couts line because I can't prove it. Here is my situation
and maybe you could clarify for me. First of all, in one
of your newsletters you stated that all the Couts had left
the area of Robertson County, TN, which is where my
people are from. From what I have found, I know a
William H. Farmer married Elizabeth Couts on Feb. 24, 1840
in Robertson Co., TN. But the 1850 census is what
confuses me. There is a family of William H. Farmer
listed with wife Elizabeth, age 32, and several children I
ncluding Julia, which is my gggrandmother, and a Martha
J. There is also a different listing in the household of
Nancy Conts, an Elizabeth, age 25, with daughter
Martha and son Willis I believe. Both households
have daughters Martha J. of the same age. So my
thinking is, "Did one census taker take info at
William Farmer's address, then Elizabeth go to her
mother's home when Martha became ill, and take
Willis with her, and then after Martha died, go back
home to William?????" This Martha J. and Elizabeth
are buried in the same cemetery with Nancy and
William Couts. I can find no other record of a William
Farmer marrying another Elizabeth, but I don't want to
just assume that my Elizabeth is definitely a Couts
without proof. I just wondered if you could verify this
for me or see if any of your readers could tell you
anything about it. If, in fact, Elizabeth Couts is my
ancestor, I have lots of info I could give you about her
descendants in middle Tennessee. Thanks for the help!!
One little tidbit of info: I recently tried to visit the Couts
graveyard (but couldn't get to it because of snow and it is
back behind a stand of trees near the corn fields) but the
owner of the land (recently bought from a Couts descendant)
thought the graves were of slaves of the Couts. He said that
even they didn't realize that their ancestors were in the
graveyard. It's sad that this was not passed down. I can't
imagine having relatives buried on my land and not know
they were family, especially when one was the sister of a
State Representative and Postmaster General. Anyway,
thanks again and I hope to hear from you. Teresa
Subj: Caldwells From: slohi1964@crosswinds.net
(Sylvia Douglass) I am really impressed with your accounting
of the Caldwell family. According to what I just read, my
Caldwell ancestry must come from one of
those 3 or 4 men. My Great grandfather's name was Samuel
(Paul) Caldwell supposedly born in Ohio. His father's first or
middle name was Levi, and he had 2 brothers-Marion (or Merrian),
and Frank, and a sister named Amy. He changed his name
to went to Washington state, changed his name and married
in 1860. Do you have any idea which Caldwell family he
might be descended from? Sylvia Colwell Douglass
Subj: Barton From: a0007864@airmail.net (Barton/Jarvis)
Hi, I was looking at you webpage, http://www.syix.com/
bevans/barbara/barton.htm and began to make some possible
connection. Do have any information as to Bavester Barton's
siblings. There are several distinct lines of Bartons in the early
history of Henry County, Tennessee. With the small
number of white families in Henry County in the 1820's,
it would be odd for these families not to have been related.
In Henry County there are 3 lines: Joseph Barton, James
Barton, and Bavester Barton ((possibly the one on your
webpage)). Perhaps the three are brothers because they
are of the same generation and it would make historical
and genealogical sense.
My Joseph Barton was married in Trigg Co KY with
his second marriage to Sophia W. Goode on 21 Dec 1833.
Joseph's first 3 children were born in Christian Co KY
(Martha, Sophia, and Benjamin J.) I do not know where
the 4th child, John David Wood Barton, was born but it
was 1 Dec 1835 and died 20 Mar 1900. Benjamin J. Barton's
children were born in Henry Co TN. Looking at your
webpage, I see that the first children were born in SC
and then in KY and then some of their children were in
Henry Co TN. If I could only connect Bavester and Joseph.
If you have information outside your webpage, I would
love to hear about it. Walt Barton
Subj: Barton Family From: wolffcreek@netscape.net
(Sharon Wolff) To: bevans@coutsfamily.com
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I found your web site
last night and couldn't believe I found my elusive Charity
Barton. I have been searching for any info on her for a long
time. I knew she was my ggggrandmother but all I knew
was her maiden name was Barton and I knew nothing else.
No date of birth or place of birth or parents names. What a
find when I found the info you had on her. I am descended
through her son Bluford Carrol Rose. I am confused about
one thing, on your info you list Willoughby as her second
husband ( I was not aware of any other spouses for her)
however your site doesn't show a 1st husband. Is this possibly
a mistake? Thanks again, and if you have info on a first marriage
I would love to know about it. [Sorry, only one]
Record 145 Name: B. Prendergast Referred by: Just
Surfed On In From: Massachusetts Comments: I read
your page with much interest and pleasure. Your attention
to detail, the clarity and the content made it so easy to follow.
We descend from the William Cout Family, or perhaps
spelled Couts, out of the Shelbyville, Bedford Count, and
Nashville, TN area. Our William Cout had three daughters
Rebecca, Latitia and Easter.(maybe Esther). His daughter
Rebecca, married William Hooser. William's and Rebecca's
daughter Latitia Morton Hooser, married Robert Thompson
Cannon. Their daughter Rebecca Mary, married Robert
Emmit Fay, etc. I have the hope that my Cout/Couts(?) family
may be connected to your Couts family. Do you think that
this is a possibility. Will be anxious for your reply.
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