On 28/09/2012 IdratherbeclimbingM9 wrote:>I went climbing last weekend and my climbing partner managed to sit on>his phone at the top of the climb.>His screen broke.>>That has never happened to my paper guide.

Well if you are carrying your phone up a climb around Sydney you are doing something wrong. Although I did manage to swing leads on an obscure 15m route at Cranberry crags last Sunday, you would have liked it M9. This multi pitch adventure included route finding challenges, occasional loose rock, top-outs, and no bolts!

In the US I got into the habit of carrying either a point and shoot digi camera or a phone with camera up multi pitches. Just take a photo of the page of the guide before you leave the ground. So you have camera and guide in the one toy, and no skanky guide thrown down the back of your shirt.

On 28/09/2012 Superstu wrote:>Well if you are carrying your phone up a climb around Sydney you are doing>something wrong. Although I did manage to swing leads on an obscure 15m>route at Cranberry crags last Sunday, you would have liked it M9. This>multi pitch adventure included route finding challenges, occasional loose>rock, top-outs, and no bolts!>
Sounds like modern day Nth Head except for the length!
Heh, heh, heh.

>In the US I got into the habit of carrying either a point and shoot digi>camera or a phone with camera up multi multi pitches. Just take a photo>of the page of the guide before you leave the ground. So you have camera>and guide in the one toy, and no skanky guide thrown down the back of your>shirt.>
Are you suggesting the new app is skanky?
Nah, seriously, I reckon that last idea has merit!
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I know you've mentioned where the data comes from before (Sydney Rockies, yeah?), but it's tricky to keep track of how all the sites interchange data. Does stuff on climb.org.au get added, or should I move the Motherlode data somewhere else?

Hoping to tick the last two projects soon, and get some photos to draw lines on.

On 29/09/2012 Dr Nick wrote:>I know you've mentioned where the data comes from before (Sydney Rockies,>yeah?), but it's tricky to keep track of how all the sites interchange>data. Does stuff on climb.org.au get added, or should I move the Motherlode>data somewhere else?

Data for the app comes from sydneyclimbing.com, formerly sun surf sandstone until it got a makeover, which is currently hosted on the sydney rockies server. Same shit as goes in the printed guides.

As far as i know the only site data interchange was a one off dump from climb.org.au to thecrag.com. I haven't figured out if those sites sync on an ongoing basis or not.

For sydneyclimbing.com, a few devotees just add stuff now and then from various sources or our own fieldwork. Its open to everybody to contribute I just mould things a bit to keep coherency and completeness. I've looked into merging the sydney guide into one or the other websites, but never proceeded to because it would limit what i could do with it without much benefit. Plus, hegemony is the death of all art.

Sorry i forgot to answer your question. Yeah i can add the motherlode from what youve entered on climb.org and then you can either flick me a note when you add more stuff or just update the rockies site directly, either way it will then magically appear in the app and the printed guide. I can drop by and take photos and build topos at some stage, i like exploring that area.

The only trick with photos is that there's a narrow ledge running along the base which makes it hard to get an overview. I keep meaning to take a zoom over to the other side of the valley and get some wider shots.

How wide is the ledge? I initially had a lot of trouble getting photo topos until I bought myself a 9-18 lens, now I can usually get a good photo from the base. (Its not a fisheye though, they make awful photo topos.)

I think Simon Carter takes topo shots from afar, and his Bluies topos are excellent. I'd expect his tele lenses would be worth a fair amount tho. I've never been able to successfully do photo topos from across a valley, trees always seem to get in the way.

Between 1 and 3m depending on where you are. I've played with an 11-16 lens and got some OK shots, but I'd need to go back and do the whole crag (not that hard really, it's only short). For an overview I think it might be better to go to Crosslands Rd on the far side with about a 300 zoom and shoot across the valley (That's how I found the crag!). Because of the ledge the only tree which would really interfere is a large casuarina in front of Induction at the left end of the crag.

And I think one of the shops is doing RC helicopters with a "720p" camera for under $100. Probably IR control which means it wouldn't work to well in daylight. Maybe I should nick my brother in law's quad rotor FPV thingie and crash it into either the cliff or the river!

Actually you were right. I took an 18mm lens last time, but today got out there with an 11. A bit of stitching (the worst blemishes hidden by one of the routes!) and cropping, a bit of time copying and pasting, and I've saved you some work (I hope). Let me know if there's anything glaringly bad I can help fix up.

On 3/09/2012 bw wrote:>stu, awesome work - just a q, not a whinge; is an android version likely?

Almost two years later it turns out...

I'm currently looking for a handful of people to help me out with some alpha testing of the Android version. You'll need to have a google account, but given you'll need an Android phone that probably isn't a huge ask.