This app would be amazing

I fear there is something seriously wrong with the mobirise. What is the point in making update without fixing the bugs in the previous versions first? Ijust can't get my head around it - this app would be amazing if it actually worked! Please just get a perfectly working stable version. i would pay good money for it if you did!

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Can only imagine what circumstances made this ALL CAPS !!! statement take place.

Well @ianmyers2008 I think you're wrong and most respectfully will tell you why:

First of all - I'm not a part of the Mobirise Builder Development team but just a regular user like you but the Builder has taken my ass from so many situations I just can't stand silent. Let me tell you:

I found this thing about an year and a half and it was doing nothing but simple sites with single level navigation and only the most commonly used blocks. The version was early v2 and my knowledge in web design was just a bit over the ground level - I was coming from the world of print.

Still I managed to accomplish quite a few with the limited capabilities The Bulder had back then, got myself out of the very first of the situations I've already mentioned and just like you I spotted the great potential it has I was however patient enough to consider it as is - a constant work in progress - always something getting done and improved. And as I'm sure you've noticed as well - when you are making something of a kind from the scratch there inevitably are some fallbacks

In time I saw the app grow and become what it is now. Not sure how many hours you've spent with Mobirise Builder but I must share figuring out the cool CSS snippets giving me the desired appearance without breaking the block's parameters (versions 2 and 3) payed off twice - with both the desired appearance and gaining some more styling knowledge.

I do think instead of being aggressive we should appreciate these guys efforts and show them our support since in my humble opinion the capabilities of the Builder from the time I'm observing its growing have increased at least 30 times - that's for the short time of year and a half! Not to mention how many decent people from all kinds of spheres I've met around which without much technical knowledge got themselves good websites - with this very same software you're calling crappy in caps.

Yes, the sites they got might have been differing slightly from what they have initially got in mind or on their sketches (if any) due to the idea having to fit the provided blocks library but still - this does not erase the fact these people got working solutions and made their lives better!

Additionally - this very same tool gathered around the Community in this forum. A community which I found many friends in, helped and got help from them facing different cases with the builder using calm language and friendly tone and without giving good money for that

Of course the block list is limited - it always will be for someone. No way figuring out all the possible appearance each and every user will ever need. Of course - there are still some glitches - the work goes on and just because you or somebody else doesn't see a particular point taken care of this does not mean it's been forgotten. But let me ask you - once more - most respectfully - have you not done by yourself but even been a part of a project so vast and innovative? Have you tried out building something not done before from nothing and being brave enough to present it to the public?

If not - what gives you the right judging and being rude?

Do you know how many sites have been done by people like us not throwing tough words in all caps but putting their minds to making things work?

Do you think all these guys:

were forced to say what they said about the Builder?

So my friendly suggestion to you is - please try being a bit more constructive and a bit less emotional. I know sometimes the last one is a bit hard to accomplish but I also know being taken by emotions one sometimes says and does stuff he later on regrets. And I think if you just cross the lines over the Builder the loss will be only yours .

Is there a manner to block all those rude and selfish yelling people? They bother me more than any bug.

I left caps lock on to make a pertinent point. Not. shout or be rude. My point was fairly clear. I was expressing my opinion that I don't see the point making an app that does not work properly.

This app could be superb. It just needs to be more stable and stop breaking all the time.

My frustration is surely justified given I have spent money buying extras that don't work properly. Then I finally get to somewhere near decent looking site and after uploading it the colours are wrong and the page speed score is Zero.

If you go into a shop to buy a product that doesn't work as it should you get your money back right? You buy a Blue car from a dealer and he gives you a red car with faults you question the guy who took your order. Right?

I think its rude to take money for a product that does not work. I know the base app is free but the extensions are not!

All I am asking for is a stable version that's reliable for making basic websites and that I am (and surely thousands of others would also) happy to pay for it.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but each time thinking the outcome will somehow be different.

WASTE OF TIME!For me it was and it has been a pleasure to use this software, yes, indeed it has some bugs ( a lot, if u prefer), but who's perfect? I enjoy it, and it keeps me busy, I have to learn new things (HTML, CSS,JS,JQ) and this is the charm of the life using Mobirise!I climbed up on the webdesing's stair step by step, I remember old times with HTML 4 transitional and strict rules, when I made small site w/o any software, I used a lot of nested tables to get my design as I wanted to be, when flash was the king, and so on.... Now, with some patience, alot of work, amazing things can be done with Mobirise!I don't want to migrate to Wordpress, Joomla, MS Frontpage, Macromedia and so on, because I want to learn and to get ready made!

U saidYou buy a Blue car from a dealer and he gives you a red car with faults you question the guy who took your order. Right? My response, and please, don't kill me!!!Why did u accept red color iof blue?Berfore to buy Mobirise full package some time ago, I red this forum, I saw all the problems, and I said OK, I would be in! Why?JFK (Rest In Peace) said on September 12, 1962, before a crowd of 35,000 people in the Rice University football stadium.We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win My dear friend, please excuse me and forgive me, but this my opinion, from now on it is up to you if u want to use Mobirise or not.....Have a nice week-end!

Ianmyers2008 - I've built many websites with this software and have nothing but praises. Yes, it has some issues as ANY software does. I just completed a 15 page site with v4 which many say it's so full of bugs it can't be done. - Sorry oh doubters from the dark side. -

But with some time and patience I've been able to work around it. I'm not a programmer, I'm not interested in learning to code (except on occasion when need to which isn't very often) then I figure it out. Heck, my daughter, who just started a new business, had NEVER built a website did it with using SpaceM, and all her friends and associates couldn't believe how professional it was. You just figure out what works and go with it.

I see that others have tried to help and offer some encouragement, but your response is 'yawn'? Wow...so disrespectful and rude!

It's a hard world there in cyberspace, from trolls to hackers to spammers. But, there are some good corners, and Mobirise (it's free) even with no paid extensions fills a void in the dev industry that is so handy. I tried to get my head around CoffeeCup's Responsive Site Designer and Foundation Framer, (having bought them) but I still don't have a working website or much of a clue even after watching a few videos. Excellent software, but aimed over and above "little old me doing voluntary work for the local community" - so that's where Mobirise came in. Simple, elegant, and yes, still on a journey of development. But, of the numerous websites built in v3 and now the first one in v4, http://imc.cog7.org I'm not complaining, just working through any issues, studying its progress, and pleased to report a much better release now than some weeks ago.

It's a hard world there in cyberspace, from trolls to hackers to spammers. But, there are some good corners, and Mobirise (it's free) even with no paid extensions fills a void in the dev industry that is so handy. I tried to get my head around CoffeeCup's Responsive Site Designer and Foundation Framer, (having bought them) but I still don't have a working website or much of a clue even after watching a few videos. Excellent software, but aimed over and above "little old me doing voluntary work for the local community" - so that's where Mobirise came in. Simple, elegant, and yes, still on a journey of development. But, of the numerous websites built in v3 and now the first one in v4, http://imc.cog7.org I'm not complaining, just working through any issues, studying its progress, and pleased to report a much better release now than some weeks ago.

Excellent website, John! I found it fast loading, easy to navigate and view. Amazing what a little work and inspiration can do. Congrats!

I am using version 4 for managing my old sites and making new sites. Few sites are online. Faced issues but could manage. I am a strong lover of mobirise. I point out issues for developers to identify and correct. Sometimes i blame them like anything. Its cos am a part of mobirise family and want it to be the best. @filyov, @steveriches are few good friends in this family

@ianmyers2008 take your time kido, you will get to this conversation in a few years (maybe) and see what the rest of us meant - eventually.

All the rest of you guys - let's admit it - a kid shouting aloud foolish offenses actually managed to do (without any sign of intention) something really good. This all caps comment lacking much sense and argumentation managed to get us all share the way we see things and maybe, just maybe - made us think about that for a while - like for many of us the Mobirise Builder has become a significant part of our workflow, so significant we sometimes just don't notice its there and just go on and use it for whatever we need to be accomplished at the moment.

And now this comment made us think for just a bit ad realize how precious the tool is. Furthermore - the ignorance of the kid made us share the way we actually think regarding the app.

I think this is good. I think we all made what was initially foolish and hatefull (maybe even payed attack - do not know) into something having actual value - being provoked we gathered some honest feedback from real life people using the thing in their everyday work.

So now the very next new user coming around wondering if the Builder is actually worth investing both time and funds will have some material to think over.

I guess that's one of the reasons I'm so glad and proud being a part of this Community.

@ianmyers2008 do note - if you're a real person - each and every member sending a word here did not use any loud tone or offensive language. I'm pretty sure we all do have this little moments when we first spoke and thought later. And just because you decided, maybe driven by an emotional moment, to spit some dirt that does not mean you will be rejected by the Community. The decision to go on with this tool or move on offending another is entirely up to you. But if for a reason things happen thins way that later on you need some help with the Mobirise Builder - do write here and I'm pretty sure someone will try giving you a tip pretty soon.

As @dentaura said - that's what means being a part of the Mobirise family

Whoa. Sorry other people's opinions bother you guys! Just because *some* of you LOVE the program doesn't mean it isn't frustrating for a lot of us. I WANT (sorry I'm "shouting" ) to like this program. I would also pay more money for more features and options. However, this program has A LOT of issues still for many of us. So, let the person express their frustration without being all snotty and saying they are "emotional". I guess all of you on your little high horses NEVER get frustrated. Life must be just dandy for you

My problems with this1) endless updates and no way of getting them automatically....or knowing about them. 2) this program doesn't work in IE like it should3) I emailed support twice a month ago. I have received ZERO response. And I paid the 130 bucks for the blocks so I kinda feel like support SHOULD respond.4) the forums are full of know it alls like everyone who jumped on someone for being LEGITIMATELY frustrated...get over yourselves!!!!!5) I have asked questions on this forum without any response or resolution.

. I tried to get my head around CoffeeCup's Responsive Site Designer and Foundation Framer, (having bought them) but I still don't have a working website or much of a clue even after watching a few videos. Excellent software, but aimed over and above "little old me doing voluntary work for the local community"

I tried those too. Not easy, very difficult for an average person to figure out!

Not to rain on anyone's parade. I gotta say I really like the (concept of the )software .... but I have to agree with @Annmarieitalia and @Ianmyers2008 .

It can definitely try one's patience. The issue with v4 is in crafting anything with any certainty with the software. Or discovering after a great deal of work, the next update breaks all of one's previous work. Also as one who has been involved with the development of custom software, V4 should never have been released to anyone (especially in the early days) until better testing was done by the developers. The daily issues just simply wear one down when it comes to using this software with ease and in the manner it is intended.

My concern is that there were so many complaints by users as to when the next version was going to be released that the developers threw up their hands in frustration and released things early just to quiet the masses down.(I dont hear any anyone complaining about the next release now - cause everyone is too entrenched with figuring out where the bugs are in the new version.)

BTW - dont get me wrong. I appreciate the developers effort. And I believe they are on to a very serious product - if they can just refine it a bit more and improve their backtesting. Also realize they are a small team. But some of these issues simply point to a serious lack of testing before sending it out to the user base.

In the meantime - the product has not been stable or fit to be released with so many bugs - and a clear lack of back testing by the developers. Imagine Wordpresss, Microsoft, or Apple releasing programming with so many issues. There are many issues with v4 still - and there is little integrity in the software because it has not been thoroughly tested. Guess we are the guinea pigs for this experiment. And that is why v3 is just a better option - and even it still has a few issues that have been ignored - even though it is far more stable than v4.

Can't read this crap from the experts anymore.Are we here now a religious community? The maker of Mobirise is a tough businessman who is only interested in profit. Any criticism of this software is rejected. Some comments are confusing in their choice of words, but they do touch the problem of mobirise. Mobirise has bugs without end. Bugs are taken from one version to another and not fixed.New bugs are added.And what does this community do - it cheers.Just as a reminder: Mobirise is free of charge - the extensions are not included. The support (probably one person) is overwhelmed.

@simonchang1108 Re: Google, MS, Apple, FB. Think you missed my point. Big or small team - there are base line standards for back testing that should be met when putting product in the marketplace that should assure a chance of the product working properly. It feels that changes are made and no testing is made to assure that the update changes do not conflict with the overall operation of other processes. There is plenty of great product in the marketplace produced by teams of less than 5-10 developers - with no where near the buggy nature. Unfortunately - v4 is two steps forward and one step back. Sometimes two steps forward - and three steps back. V3 sites still do not integrate into v4. Not good - not good at all. After how many releases?

As I said - appreciate what the team is doing. Also the product has a modest price tag - so personally I (and I believe others) do not have terribly high expectations. The product has great potential. Clearly the developers are very gifted. ANd no one is looking to demean their talents. But it is also important that users clearly communicate their concerns when the work is has issues. That is the only way the development team improves. I think this is why so many are frustrated. They see the potential - and would like to be able to implement for commercial projects - without all the hassles. If this is a commercial venture - I believe many here would believe this to be a reasonable expectation.

We are lovers of mobirise doesnt mean that we are fully happy with the unprofessional way things are heading. The developing team should take things seriously and clear bugs before going for new features. New releases with more new bugs is what is worrying at the moment. Its getting 2 years and still the software is going in beta.

But when the software started and the current situation of the software is great. The development team need to be appreciated about the concept. Bugs are annoying us. They will help us clearing it and i expect them to do it in a more professional and responsible way.

Is there a manner to block all those rude and selfish yelling people? They bother me more than any bug.

I left caps lock on to make a pertinent point. Not. shout or be rude. My point was fairly clear. I was expressing my opinion that I don't see the point making an app that does not work properly.

This app could be superb. It just needs to be more stable and stop breaking all the time.

My frustration is surely justified given I have spent money buying extras that don't work properly. Then I finally get to somewhere near decent looking site and after uploading it the colours are wrong and the page speed score is Zero.

If you go into a shop to buy a product that doesn't work as it should you get your money back right? You buy a Blue car from a dealer and he gives you a red car with faults you question the guy who took your order. Right?

I think its rude to take money for a product that does not work. I know the base app is free but the extensions are not!

All I am asking for is a stable version that's reliable for making basic websites and that I am (and surely thousands of others would also) happy to pay for it.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but each time thinking the outcome will somehow be different.

I hear where you're coming from - it can be frustrating for sure as with any buggy software so here's some feedback that may help you.

First, if you're using Windows 7 or higher you shouldn't depend on Mobirise as your only design building solution - you should use Dreamweaver CS6 or CC and or Pingrow 3 - and always back up your work from the AppData local folder - the name of the folder in the local folder is called Mobirise.com - always back that up to avoid losing any work.

You will need to backup all of your Mobirise work via the AppData local folder - then uninstall the latest version and then make sure to re-install version 4.1.7 - this should fix whatever issues you are having.

Lastly, I think Mobirise will evolve into something much better and as I mentioned in my previous post Mobirise is great for creating website Mockups designs - but for finishing touches on any of my web design work I use and recommend Dreamweaver CC and or Pinegrow 3+ I have both - Mobirise is a great complimenting design tool for any web design project. It is very promising. I also purchased all of their themes/kit etc. and I was frustrated too but Mobirise Support was very helpful - so if you have any issues just reach out to support - they're attentive to their customers.

Ps Don't expect perfection with anything - even big companies from Apple iOS to Windows and every other software out there have their share of bugs and problems.

I have been using Mobirise for almost a year now and built about a dozen or so websites with it. So far, I have found it to be fairly reliable. Yes, it DOES have its foibles and occasional outright bugs, but I'll say this for the support - they DO respond to issues posed and evidently are doing their best to get through all the issues discovered. I suspect their team is not massive, and they must surely run on a tight budget, but I actually do have faith that they will continue to deliver a quality product - albeit with our help.

So it doesn't help to jump on and rant. You're much better off DOCUMENTING the issues you're facing and then reporting them both to the forums and to support via the app.

Also, it would pay you more - however frustrating your situation may be - to remember you're always dealing with people and so treating them with politeness and civility will always get you further.

I have been using Mobirise for almost a year now and built about a dozen or so websites with it. So far, I have found it to be fairly reliable. Yes, it DOES have its foibles and occasional outright bugs, but I'll say this for the support - they DO respond to issues posed and evidently are doing their best to get through all the issues discovered. I suspect their team is not massive, and they must surely run on a tight budget, but I actually do have faith that they will continue to deliver a quality product - albeit with our help.

So it doesn't help to jump on and rant. You're much better off DOCUMENTING the issues you're facing and then reporting them both to the forums and to support via the app.

Also, it would pay you more - however frustrating your situation may be - to remember you're always dealing with people and so treating them with politeness and civility will always get you further.

if u edit mobirise after publishing then u cant bring back that site to mobirise. Mobirise had a disadvantage with the code editor usage with old versions. But with M4 , code editor is in a way it is accessible without unlocking. You can edit the codes like anything, provided you know coding. If you know coding, u can customize sites and make beautiful ones. Wait and see, if the bug side is cleared by the developers this software is going to be the best.

I have used softwares like pinegrow. It is an excellent software but not a simple one, you need to really learn. Mobirise doesnt have that learning curve. If you know basics of coding and real designing taste you can edit existing blocks in mobirise. Moreover now blocks of M4 from other themes can be saved and used in ur project.

otherwise a person like me who doesnt have time will not stick with mobirise for 2 years. Cheers mobirise

Yes, Dentaura is correct. You need to know how to use Dreamweaver CS6 - CC and Pinegrow 3+ to really take advantage of their benefits when designing any site. Again, Mobirise is a great Mockup design tool even if it's a bit buggy - Once Mobirise takes its platform to the next level with a stable version that can easily compliment other widely used programs like Dreamweaver and Pinegrow 3+ then Mobirise will be in a class by itself - it's a promising software and happy to give it my support.

You should ask for a refund considering you paid a ton of money for the Mobirise builder.

Oh wait, you didn't.

Well then, knock it off. Immediately.

-RB

PS - I'd highly recommend that you learn how to code and author a competing product. If you can produce 1/2 of the features I'll pay. Yes, pay. Not only will I pay, I'll pay annually for your bug free software that implements 1/2 of the Mobirise builder features. My offer is $5 per year. YES, FIVE DOLLARS A YEAR.

Is there a manner to block all those rude and selfish yelling people? They bother me more than any bug.

I left caps lock on to make a pertinent point. Not. shout or be rude. My point was fairly clear. I was expressing my opinion that I don't see the point making an app that does not work properly.

This app could be superb. It just needs to be more stable and stop breaking all the time.

My frustration is surely justified given I have spent money buying extras that don't work properly. Then I finally get to somewhere near decent looking site and after uploading it the colours are wrong and the page speed score is Zero.

If you go into a shop to buy a product that doesn't work as it should you get your money back right? You buy a Blue car from a dealer and he gives you a red car with faults you question the guy who took your order. Right?

I think its rude to take money for a product that does not work. I know the base app is free but the extensions are not!

All I am asking for is a stable version that's reliable for making basic websites and that I am (and surely thousands of others would also) happy to pay for it.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over but each time thinking the outcome will somehow be different.

I'm shocked at how many people are complaining. Folks, this is a FREE tool. If you don't like Free then buy something else. We are also Weebly resellers and the majority of our clients prefer Mobirise. And guess what, Weebly also has bugs. Nobody is forcing anyone to purchase any of the upgrades, stay free but don't Shout, CAPitalize your complaints, make rude and insulting comments...just Go Away.

that is life.... but before to write some posts here, I strongly recommend to many users around here to read about html, css, js, web design, ux/ui, there are tons of free stuff.....such as w3schools, developer mozilla, css-tricks, and so many others!!! also some time spent on bootstrap page (v 4 alpha and v 4 beta) is very indicated to be done!last but not least, a lot of work is needed to achieve the desired resultsto drive a car u need some driving hours, some theory, and then u get the driver licence, u are a driver.....but there are drivers and drivers!! (and so many different cars.....)

Awesome software and it has great potential as a product for developing mobile responsive websites easily. I used Mobirise to create my web designing business side (http://www.emhwebs.com). I plan to start a small business and operate on a part-time basis.

Also, I hope Mobirise can offer some templates/extensions for the restaurant industry. I would certainly purchase.

this small site of yours looks pretty cool - it's quite clean and simple, laving plenty of space for building it up once the situation requires it and of course - when you manage to find the time for it

The las one is being said from personal experience since no matter how many ideas and content I do have for uploading on my own website which was done in ancient history - even before I have discovered the Builder - there always is something a bit more urgent than that

Anyway - it's a cool site and I hope you got a lot of success in this undertaking

Now to the point ( there is actually a bit more than just wishing you luck here )

I'm pretty certain I've seen around a third party restaurants and cafes reservation service integrated with a Mobirise Builder project and it wasn't just working successfully but blended quite nice as well. It was v3.12 as I recall but that's not a thing to worry about at all - on the contrary - with the v4 all the code is entirely accessible so you could just place the embed code wherever you find it to be fitting nicely

It took me a while to dig it up since as you will see it's from the beginning of the summer and I'm really glad I managed to find it after all:

the external service is called Open Table - not pretty sure if it's applicable / popular in the part of the worls you're creating for but still - it is a start and of course - you can integrate any other with pretty much the same approach - the good old but golden iframe

Haven't played around with placing embed scripts right inside a block since then so I can't really tell if it's going to work now if you paste a script version of the embed instead of including the reservetion in an iframe. I however tried referencing a script file earlier today and kind of failed, so my suggestion is - go for the embed

And a simple alternative solution - there is a pretty cool online forms generator which comes with a simple admin panel as well where you can login and track the form submissions (reservations, orders etc) along with being notified by email each time a form gets submitted.

we've talked about it a bit more in detail - I hope you'll find it useful. Yep, it requires a bit more time for initially constructing the forms which will work best for you but hey! - no better way of having something exactly fitting your needs than making it yourself - everything else will be more or less a compromise

Hope this helps - pls make sure you write back if you need some extra help on whatever