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I'm one of the few people wh actually liked the movie but I do think it'd been a better movie with the deleted scenes added in. Now that doesn't mean it'd the movie would've done better in the theaters, just that it would've been a better movie.

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I'm one of the few people wh actually liked the movie but I do think it'd been a better movie with the deleted scenes added in. Now that doesn't mean it'd the movie would've done better in the theaters, just that it would've been a better movie.

Not sure they could have kept the original Troi-Riker-Reman scene and remained at PG-13 instead of going to R. The deleted scene presents it as much more of a mental rape.

BUT

It's the last movie. Why not go with an R rating? They were obviously making 'TNG Into Darkness' (for that I beg forgiveness). Why not go the whole nine yards?

I'm one of the few people wh actually liked the movie but I do think it'd been a better movie with the deleted scenes added in. Now that doesn't mean it'd the movie would've done better in the theaters, just that it would've been a better movie.

Not sure they could have kept the original Troi-Riker-Reman scene and remained at PG-13 instead of going to R. The deleted scene presents it as much more of a mental rape.

BUT

It's the last movie. Why not go with an R rating? They were obviously making 'TNG Into Darkness' (for that I beg forgiveness). Why not go the whole nine yards?

I doubt if adding that scene would've gotten the movie an "R" rating. And if it had a respectable box office showing it wouldn't have been the lst TNG either for that matter.

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The greatest science fiction series of all time is
Doctor Who! And I'll take you all on, one-by-one
or all in a bunch to back it up!"
--- Harlan Ellison, from his introduction
to the PINNACLE series of Doctor Who books

Yes it would. The studio didn't really want any more, hell they barely wanted this one. The actors were all calling it day. Berman had to fight for Nemesis. There was a reason it was written the way it was. It was the end of TNG. If it had done well we'd may have got a Voyager or cross-crew film, but full-on TNG was done.

Yes it would. The studio didn't really want any more, hell they barely wanted this one. The actors were all calling it day. Berman had to fight for Nemesis. There was a reason it was written the way it was. It was the end of TNG. If it had done well we'd may have got a Voyager or cross-crew film, but full-on TNG was done.

Yes. Remember that this film was billed as "A Generation's Final Journey". It was the end of TNG before opening day. There was a good DS9 book about the end of the universe (red Bajoran orbs), which would have made a decent feature film. I've forgotten the title (EDIT: "Millennium").

Yes it would. The studio didn't really want any more, hell they barely wanted this one.

Of there had been any real antisipation of additional TNG movies, the script never would have depicted Riker getting his own command.

Sulu also had his own command in the sixth movie and they were able to write him into the movie.

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The greatest science fiction series of all time is
Doctor Who! And I'll take you all on, one-by-one
or all in a bunch to back it up!"
--- Harlan Ellison, from his introduction
to the PINNACLE series of Doctor Who books

Yes it would. The studio didn't really want any more, hell they barely wanted this one.

Of there had been any real antisipation of additional TNG movies, the script never would have depicted Riker getting his own command.

Exactly. Though I always figured giving Riker the Titan was Berman hedging his bets. "Stewart and Spiner might say they're done, but I bet I can get Frakes and Sirtis back". It would also allow a mostly new crew, a direction the studio had wanted to go in.

Yes it would. The studio didn't really want any more, hell they barely wanted this one.

Of there had been any real antisipation of additional TNG movies, the script never would have depicted Riker getting his own command.

Exactly. Though I always figured giving Riker the Titan was Berman hedging his bets. "Stewart and Spiner might say they're done, but I bet I can get Frakes and Sirtis back". It would also allow a mostly new crew, a direction the studio had wanted to go in.

Sounds like Generations all over again, using familiar faces to launch new ones on the big screen. I suspect the odd numbered movie curse would have returned with a 'vengeance' (couldn't resist!)

Though I always figured giving Riker the Titan was Berman hedging his bets. "Stewart and Spiner might say they're done, but I bet I can get Frakes and Sirtis back". It would also allow a mostly new crew, a direction the studio had wanted to go in.

With Stewart and Spiner absent that would have nicely reduced the cost of a follow on movie. If they had been willing to do a lower budget Star Trek (about 25 million) it could have been made to work, even after Nemesis.