I've done a fresh install of 0810alpha2 following the wiki and installed the pluto-zwave-lighting package, however neither my usb-uirt nor Intermatic HA-22 stick are recognized and used. Both work plug and play in 0710 (after replacing the ZWave driver) however I can't even add them manually in 0810. A thumb drive with a movie on it was detected and used automatically so HAL seems to be working. Surely someone else with a usbuirt or zwave stick has done a fresh install with the new alpha and either gotten these working or run into a similar problem?

I've done a fresh install of 0810alpha2 following the wiki and installed the pluto-zwave-lighting package, however neither my usb-uirt nor Intermatic HA-22 stick are recognized and used. Both work plug and play in 0710 (after replacing the ZWave driver) however I can't even add them manually in 0810. A thumb drive with a movie on it was detected and used automatically so HAL seems to be working. Surely someone else with a usbuirt or zwave stick has done a fresh install with the new alpha and either gotten these working or run into a similar problem?

jhammond

Hi,

Well this is an Alpha... and the purpose of Alpha builds is to allow these types issues to be caught. If you choose to install the Alpha's then you will bump into this kind of 'gap'... our hope is that some of you will fix the issue and then post the fix to the Forum.

If you can't fix it yourself or do no have the time... then you'll just have to put up with these issues until someone else fixes them.

totallymaxed, I'm aware that this is just an alpha and that there are issues with it, which is why I'm posting this in the first place. Asking around in the irc channel, everyone is saying that both the usbuirt and zwave stick should be pnp in 0810 (they both are in 0710), however, I can't seem to get them to even work manually.

So, since no one else has complained about this and I've experienced it on several installs with different hardware: ISSUE: Caught.

Now, if someone with more experience than I wants to help me track down why this is happening, I'd love the help.After a fresh install of kubuntu 8.10, I do:

apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgradethen reboot, which gives me an updated system running the 2.6.27-11-generic kernel. After the reboot, I install the nvidia 180.44 drivers from the nvidia site, then follow the alpha wiki:

However, before rebooting, I install id-my-disc from 0710, along with pluto-mythtv-player, pluto-mythtv-plugin, libdvdcss2, w32codecs and pluto-zwave-lighting. Following another reboot, the system starts the A/V Wizard, then the house setup and will eventually get to the lmce main screen. Media works just fine (about the only thing I've really messed with at this point).

Now, in 0710 (once I replaced the ZWave driver), both the USB-UIRT and my Intermatic HA-22 Zwave stick trigger alerts on the orbiter and walk through the setup. However, when I plug either in in 0810, nothing happens. I can plug a thumb-drive in and it's recognized and I'm asked if I want to use it, so it looks like HAL is running. Here are the relevant portions of the logs:

There is nothing about USBUIRT or ZWave in Wizard->Devices->Interfaces or in the device tree following a quick-reload of the router and running UpdateAvailableSerialPorts.sh, so my next step is to try adding them manually. If I go through Wizard->Devices->Interfaces and add either the USB-UIRT 0038 or USB-UIRT Embedded Transmit, the "Device Data" section is blank. This prevents me from putting in the Com Port and the device working as it should. I did just notice that even if I add the device via the Wizard and the "Device Data" section is empty, if I go through the Devices Tree and to the USBUIRT as a child of the Core/Hybrid, the "Device Data" section is available.

totallymaxed, I'm aware that this is just an alpha and that there are issues with it, which is why I'm posting this in the first place. Asking around in the irc channel, everyone is saying that both the usbuirt and zwave stick should be pnp in 0810 (they both are in 0710), however, I can't seem to get them to even work manually.

So, since no one else has complained about this and I've experienced it on several installs with different hardware: ISSUE: Caught.

Now, if someone with more experience than I wants to help me track down why this is happening, I'd love the help.After a fresh install of kubuntu 8.10, I do:

apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgradethen reboot, which gives me an updated system running the 2.6.27-11-generic kernel. After the reboot, I install the nvidia 180.44 drivers from the nvidia site, then follow the alpha wiki:

However, before rebooting, I install id-my-disc from 0710, along with pluto-mythtv-player, pluto-mythtv-plugin, libdvdcss2, w32codecs and pluto-zwave-lighting. Following another reboot, the system starts the A/V Wizard, then the house setup and will eventually get to the lmce main screen. Media works just fine (about the only thing I've really messed with at this point).

Now, in 0710 (once I replaced the ZWave driver), both the USB-UIRT and my Intermatic HA-22 Zwave stick trigger alerts on the orbiter and walk through the setup. However, when I plug either in in 0810, nothing happens. I can plug a thumb-drive in and it's recognized and I'm asked if I want to use it, so it looks like HAL is running. Here are the relevant portions of the logs:

There is nothing about USBUIRT or ZWave in Wizard->Devices->Interfaces or in the device tree following a quick-reload of the router and running UpdateAvailableSerialPorts.sh, so my next step is to try adding them manually. If I go through Wizard->Devices->Interfaces and add either the USB-UIRT 0038 or USB-UIRT Embedded Transmit, the "Device Data" section is blank. This prevents me from putting in the Com Port and the device working as it should. I did just notice that even if I add the device via the Wizard and the "Device Data" section is empty, if I go through the Devices Tree and to the USBUIRT as a child of the Core/Hybrid, the "Device Data" section is available.

jhammond

Well you could do an lsusb find the manufacturer/deviceid for the HA-22 then look at device template 1754 and see if the HA-22 is one of the listed, and therefore detectable, devices...

The top device is the Intermatic Stick, which is included in the PNP section of the ZWave driver (#1754). To me, from looking at the logs, it looks like the device is seen by HAL and DCERouter, but I don't know enough to figure out where the next place it could fail is. I also saw events being added to the PnpQueue in pluto_main, but I'm not sure what to do with that info.

The top device is the Intermatic Stick, which is included in the PNP section of the ZWave driver (#1754). To me, from looking at the logs, it looks like the device is seen by HAL and DCERouter, but I don't know enough to figure out where the next place it could fail is. I also saw events being added to the PnpQueue in pluto_main, but I'm not sure what to do with that info.

jhammond

Which ZWave driver binary are you using? The original LinuxMCE-0710 ZWave driver or the newer Open ZWave driver by Hari?

It is the newer, open, ZWave driver included in 0810, however, I don't think that it's specifically a z-wave problem since the USBUIRT isn't recognized either. Honestly I don't know nearly as much as I'd like to about things in general, but in my mind, both the HA-22 and USBUIRT are USB devices with serial converters and there's not a lot of similarity between them other than that, so, it seems to me that the problem is with recognizing Serial->USB connections (there's a trac ticket about devices with multiple serial interfaces only recognizing one, but I don't think it's the same thing).

I've seen this behaviour since I started messing with 0810, so at least since alpha 2.2

A little off-topic, but would be helpful regardless: is there a chart showing data-flow through LMCE in regards to DCE and all of it's devices? I guess I'm asking for something that would allow me to visually trace what happens when I plug in a new device, regardless of what it is, or say, execute a scenario from an orbiter.

I just saw that. Yeah, it can be hard to get responses here for the alpha releases, but, this at least tells me that there is a problem. I've been holding off of filing a bug (this is a release-stopper if multiple people can't get 2 of the most common interfaces to work), but I might have to just go ahead and hope someone else deals with it. I'd be happy to help anyone who wants to work on this and Thom has given me some advice, but other than yourself, no one else seems to have this issue. Can you try installing with the 0710 release and verifying that both your usb-uirt and MS MCE dongle work as they should? Also, can you post the syslog from when you plug in both devices? So far, the only thing I can find in common between my devices that aren't working is that they use a USB-SERIAL converter. My pure usb devices (mouse, keyboard, thumbdrive) all work without an issue, so I'm still of the belief that it has something to do with the USB-SERIAL conversion.

Surely somebody else has to have done a fresh install using the 0810 scripts and come up against this?I fully understand that there is no support for the alpha releases, but I've seen multiple people trying to help the effort shut-down with "There is no support for the alpha"-type answers when they bring up issues. I don't think rodercot and I are having "You didn't follow the instructions"-problems, as I'm positive that I have followed the instructions to the letter. However, 2 of the devices that are supposed to be plug and play (and control a good bit of the impressive features of LMCE) are not. Don't take this as bitching or whining, I'm just trying to sort out an issue that is very frustrating to have everyone else say: "Well, it should work" only for it to not work. It worked in 0710 and I've managed to get it going, with the same hardware as I'm trying to use now, so, the only difference is 0810. I don't doubt that other people have them up and running, however, I'm wondering if anyone who does, has done a fresh install from one of the recent builds, or if they started an install a while back and have tweaked it to work over time.

on my alpha install that i installed a couple weeks ago, usbuirt and my MCV zwave stick isnt recognized. On previous alpha tries usbuirt and intermatic ha22 didnt work. i just wrote these items off as being an alpha release and byt time it gets to beta, if it still didnt work ( which is when all installed features should be mostly working as most release cycles go) I would speak up.

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rodercot

I just saw that. Yeah, it can be hard to get responses here for the alpha releases, but, this at least tells me that there is a problem. I've been holding off of filing a bug (this is a release-stopper if multiple people can't get 2 of the most common interfaces to work), but I might have to just go ahead and hope someone else deals with it. I'd be happy to help anyone who wants to work on this and Thom has given me some advice, but other than yourself, no one else seems to have this issue. Can you try installing with the 0710 release and verifying that both your usb-uirt and MS MCE dongle work as they should? Also, can you post the syslog from when you plug in both devices? So far, the only thing I can find in common between my devices that aren't working is that they use a USB-SERIAL converter. My pure usb devices (mouse, keyboard, thumbdrive) all work without an issue, so I'm still of the belief that it has something to do with the USB-SERIAL conversion.

Surely somebody else has to have done a fresh install using the 0810 scripts and come up against this?I fully understand that there is no support for the alpha releases, but I've seen multiple people trying to help the effort shut-down with "There is no support for the alpha"-type answers when they bring up issues. I don't think rodercot and I are having "You didn't follow the instructions"-problems, as I'm positive that I have followed the instructions to the letter. However, 2 of the devices that are supposed to be plug and play (and control a good bit of the impressive features of LinuxMCE) are not. Don't take this as bitching or whining, I'm just trying to sort out an issue that is very frustrating to have everyone else say: "Well, it should work" only for it to not work. It worked in 0710 and I've managed to get it going, with the same hardware as I'm trying to use now, so, the only difference is 0810. I don't doubt that other people have them up and running, however, I'm wondering if anyone who does, has done a fresh install from one of the recent builds, or if they started an install a while back and have tweaked it to work over time.

jhammond

Sorry J I was away. I actually scrubbed the install directly after that thread. So I did not have the system up to give you feedback. The devices ofcourse do work in 7.10 just fine for me but again I do not have that machine in service right now, I just plug in the harddrive when I want to try something. I am working more and more with Moblin-Image-Creator for ume devices and i386 generic platforms so my focus has not been on this at all.