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Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

^ Super SUPER SUPEER THANK YOU!!

I added in your corrections, re-worded just a teeny bit of them (if you don't mind >.<), and made my responses to your T/Ns over there. In example: The 知ってる one. That's a really long explanation for a simple sentence. Haha.. ^^; This has been a great learning experience. Especially with informal/colloquial Japanese that I'm not use to.

I think a lot of your explanations for the grammar are more helpful than たくさん websites/textbooks combined. Appreciate them all. Just need to get the kinks of understanding できたんだよ a little bit more. ^^;

As for my picture, I don't know what your hair looks like so.....yeah. Sorry... I'm afraid of drawing the wrong hair-style on you. If you could describe it to me, I can make an upgraded version of that picture the next time I come back on here if you want? Edit 3: I just noticed a big huge error with my picture, so I will definitely have to change it anyways. >_< I made that image in a hurry so I'll make a new one. I thanked you in French. I wasn't thinking again. I got to respond back a "thank you" in Dutch. *bangs head*

And thanks!! Not perfect, but thanks to you, I feel a bit more confident now. I'm saving all your correction notes for the future. Mwahahahaha...

Edit because I need to respond before hitting the sack. 3:30 some a.m. over here, but I had 10 hours of sleep last night.

Originally Posted by Jaymie

The Order is chaotic good and the Noah are lawful evil. It's easy to mix up chaotic/evil and lawful/good, but I think it's still clear who's good and who's evil. The difference is that the Order has no standards and will resort to anything if it's for the greater good, while the Noah only commit bad deeds when it's absolutely necessary to their mission. Remember, the Noah are still trying to end the world and the Order is still trying to save it.

Is it that simple though? *rubs chin* True, the Order would resort to anything if it's to "save" the world, but within the Order, to do something beyond "anything" doesn't go under a good label to me. Even if it's "chaotic good". And if someone, in the Noah, decides to flip sides and join good, then they're all not entirely black and white to me.

(I have to wonder what would happen if the "Don't forgive the Innocence" spiel was disconnected from all Akuma? Food for thought here?)

Originally Posted by Bloomerwedgies

I admit, I facepalmed a bit at Kanda's reaction there at the end. Really, Kanda? Really? You don't think you might want to get a bit more info on the subject first? I know Nea gave Johnny a depressed skull fracture and everything, but Johnny's ok now, and don't you imagine that Nea has the DL on some pretty important intel? Hint: signs are pointing to 'yes'. Tiedoll, please make Kanda's Generalship conditional upon his acquiescing to a "questions first, slicing second" policy regarding all information-gathering events.

Yep. Yep. I like how you put it too. >D Although, I thought it would be "slice first, questions second while the victim is bleeding"??

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Originally Posted by tgirl

^ Super SUPER SUPEER THANK YOU!!

I added in your corrections, re-worded just a teeny bit of them (if you don't mind >.<), and made my responses to your T/Ns over there. In example: The 知ってる one. That's a really long explanation for a simple sentence. Haha.. ^^; This has been a great learning experience. Especially with informal/colloquial Japanese that I'm not use to.

I think a lot of your explanations for the grammar are more helpful than たくさん websites/textbooks combined. Appreciate them all. Just need to get the kinks of understanding できたんだよ a little bit more. ^^;

As for my picture, I don't know what your hair looks like so.....yeah. Sorry... I'm afraid of drawing the wrong hair-style on you. If you could describe it to me, I can make an upgraded version of that picture the next time I come back on here if you want? Edit 3: I just noticed a big huge error with my picture, so I will definitely have to change it anyways. >_< I made that image in a hurry so I'll make a new one. I thanked you in French. I wasn't thinking again. I got to respond back a "thank you" in Dutch. *bangs head*

And thanks!! Not perfect, but thanks to you, I feel a bit more confident now. I'm saving all your correction notes for the future. Mwahahahaha...

You're welcome <3
Japanese has so many grammar kinks which textbooks don't explain orz. I remember struggling a lot with -てんだよ in the past and then I googled it in Japanese and everyone's like, "oh, that's just the same as -ている"

Haha don't worry, I was just joking about the hair No need to make a new one, it's a cute pic <3 But if you want to, I'm a brunette with chin-length hair and side bang~

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Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

This looks like a really good chapter from what I can tell by looking at the raws. I haven't really read any of the translations of the text spoilers, however, because I don't like to give that much away before getting to read the translation as a whole with the images. I don't mind looking at the raws since I think that it's interesting to experience the manga with just the images at first. It helps me appreciate the art more and since manga is very art-driven anyway (at least in Hoshino's case for sure).

But I still want to say thank you for helping translate, you guys!

I'm disappointed that we didn't get to see what's happening on Allen and The Earl's end, but I think the follow up with Kanda makes more sense at this point anyway. God to finally see Teidoll again, too! I wonder what that substance was that disintegrated Timcanpy. I'm not worried about Tim's revival though, because I'm confident this isn't the end of him! ...Or maybe I'm just in complete denial.

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Originally Posted by verduister

You're welcome <3
Japanese has so many grammar kinks which textbooks don't explain orz. I remember struggling a lot with -てんだよ in the past and then I googled it in Japanese and everyone's like, "oh, that's just the same as -ている"

Haha don't worry, I was just joking about the hair No need to make a new one, it's a cute pic <3 But if you want to, I'm a brunette with chin-length hair and side bang~

Yep. Gotta really drill them into the head. It looks simple, but for me, I really do need to practice on this. ている＝てんだよ The textbook definitely doesn't explain this well. I've read the Google explanations in the past, but I never really connected the dots between both of them. (There should actually be a textbook all about informal Japanese somewhere in this world.)

And ok. Thanks for the minor detail info! ^^; I still would love to make one, but probably when I have more time.

Originally Posted by Naomidee

This looks like a really good chapter from what I can tell by looking at the raws. I haven't really read any of the translations of the text spoilers, however, because I don't like to give that much away before getting to read the translation as a whole with the images. I don't mind looking at the raws since I think that it's interesting to experience the manga with just the images at first. It helps me appreciate the art more and since manga is very art-driven anyway (at least in Hoshino's case for sure).

But I still want to say thank you for helping translate, you guys!

I'm disappointed that we didn't get to see what's happening on Allen and The Earl's end, but I think the follow up with Kanda makes more sense at this point anyway. God to finally see Teidoll again, too! I wonder what that substance was that disintegrated Timcanpy. I'm not worried about Tim's revival though, because I'm confident this isn't the end of him! ...Or maybe I'm just in complete denial.

And I'll say this on behalf of verd, "you're welcome!!" ^___^ Even if you don't look at the translation, it's okay.

I'm also fully confident that Tim will come back. In order to find out what caused Tim to be in that state, we'd have to take apart the Apo guy. *starry eyes* Dissect the guy until he cries for mercy. *evil grin*

As for getting Tim back to normal, Allen/Nea is the key to all this. The question now is whether, or not, Allen is conscious with Johnny. (And the Earl must still be around.....)

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Dammit, Hoshino. We know already, did you need to go there again? Sadist.

Apocryphos has harvested Kanda's memories but he looks a little distracted

"Dude...my hands are huge. Oh, and Howard Link is alive. Judging by his expression, he wasn't in the mood to take any more of Kanda's shit"

"Bitch, please; like this is the first time I've been on the business end of a sharp object. Wait...why is my hair blowing around dramatically like this in your memory, Kanda? This isn't a windy night, WTF"

Link sees the Cardinal/Apocryphos and is appropriately horrified...

"It's a good thing I found this scrap of burlap in the gutter; no one could possibly recognize me now"

And on to the unfurling:

Muffled Handel's Hallelujah Chorus playing in the distance

"Woah, I can like, hear my skull"

This guy looks like he's enjoying it a bit too much

And then Jasdevi shows up. Can't tell if their Noah garb is more or less slutty than their street clothes; not that it matters, neither ensemble leaves much to the imagination and we wouldn't want it any other way

It takes a brave soul to be seen in white PVC after Labor Day

Wait, what the

Okay, now I'm just tripping balls

Moving right along, Kanda's had better mornings

My advice for hangover avoidance: just stay drunk

"The fuck did I do last night"

Of course, Hoshino has to traumatize us along with Kanda, using this imagery again:

OMG why would you do that

Okay, this is all the Allen adorableness you are going to get this month. And it's a false memory to boot. Enjoy!

Aww.

Did you like that? Good, because now weeeeraaaaawwwwwnnngraaaawww

Don't look at it directly. Your mind is your own worst enemy. Especially if you're Kanda.

Yes, yes...we know Kanda was a beautiful child; thanks for the reminder

Maybe someday we'll get to see Link as a kid, outside of a few hazy flashback panels and one sketch in an artbook; meh, who am I kidding. I'm not holding my breath

Woah, holy shit

His hands are huge. He wasn't just stoned out of his gourd

And now Kanda's totally freaking out

Quick, Tiedoll, get him to the chill room and pump some Gatorade into him

Still don't know WTF the killcanpium is

I agree: "!?"

And yet again, in case you missed it and/or it didn't destroy your emotions enough the first dozen times, here is Timcanpy's current condition

Curse you, Hoshino, seriously. He's falling apart now, wonderful.

Not even Philbert Travers-Moremont can keep a stiff upper lip in the face of these emotional odds, and Timcanpy ate his brother.

Wait, Kanda....what are you

Pfffft this is one for the family album. You are adorable

Tiedoll tried to keep a straight face but it wasn't happening

And onward into the future

Philbert is going to ride that fame train for all it's worth. Don't mind the hangers-on, Kanda; they come with the territory. Just make sure to stand to the right for group photos so your name comes first in the caption. You'll be fine

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Do not look at Link's ear. Do not. I made that mistake and now I can't stop looking at it. Seriously what is that. Is it an impressionistic moon with a scrunchy face? Is it a really awful maze where you have to help the golem find the Innocence? WE WILL NEVER KNOW.

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Originally Posted by Bloomerwedgies

Oh, no! I wonder why they dropped it? Jeez, that was quick...
I'm so glad that tgirl and verduister do translations here for us.
Welcome aboard.

I don't know:.. Maybe they are with a lot of projects or its just because of DGM's inconstant releases D:
Yeah tgirl and verduister are the greatest help here to keep us calm till the chapter xD thank u girls !!

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Can't unsee the ear, ffffffff-. It's like the weird shading Hishino does around mouths sometimes. Once you notice it's super distracting.
I'm going to lol if Kanda takes "filling Cross's seat" literally. Like he tries to be like Cross but sucks at it.

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Do not look at Link's ear. Do not. I made that mistake and now I can't stop looking at it. Seriously what is that. Is it an impressionistic moon with a scrunchy face? Is it a really awful maze where you have to help the golem find the Innocence? WE WILL NEVER KNOW.

...That... Is one horribly drawn ear.

It reminds me of when Hoshino draws arms in long sleeves or legs in pants - the folds in the sleeves make it seem like there's no arm in side. Or no leg inside the pants. And I can not not pay attention to those details >.<''

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

A random colored panel (warning: kinda disturbing)
So the max number of Generals is 4 now, not 5?
And how did Kanda hide himself being a critical point breaker when if one appear, the cube inside Hevlaska will react?

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Originally Posted by Mango-chan

...I'm going to lol if Kanda takes "filling Cross's seat" literally. Like he tries to be like Cross but sucks at it.

Hmmm, that would be an interesting thought. Given his current attempt to escape the order, he might become another Cross, but I'm not sure if he would suck at it. I think that the order wants to make him a general because they need to find one to replace Cross, and Allen is considered to be a Noah. They might also use Kanda to keep track of Allen for them since Allen's innocence was prophesied by Helveska to be the Destroyer of Time.

Re: DGM Chapter 217 Spoiler Thread

Originally Posted by non-chan

A random colored panel (warning: kinda disturbing)
So the max number of Generals is 4 now, not 5?
And how did Kanda hide himself being a critical point breaker when if one appear, the cube inside Hevlaska will react?

What I think is that the process of synchronizing with innocense is very bit different than the typical perception of getting stronger via physical training. Synchronizing with innocence deals with the level of physical, mental and spiritual connectivity an exorcist has with his/her innocence. Therefore, like the process of noahfication (Tyki for example) it is possible for an exorcist to prohibit their synch with the innocence by not fully accepting the sole mission of the innocence entirely (like Kanda). Also remember that Kanda does not rely entirely on synchronizing with his innocence and instead utilizes the taboo seal's power to strengthen himself and mugen in exchange for his life force. Maybe Kanda purposely suppresses his synchro-rate in order not to be detected by Hevlaska. Maybe Hevlaska even suspects this but keeps quiet about it until an exorcist truly purges the critical mark.