Your bar would probably work fine for all three kites but might need a little tweaking. The Envy has a one front line flag system where the Renegade has a mini fifth line and the Razor comes with your choice of either a newer version of your bar or a mini fifth set up. To get your safety to work to the kites original design you might have to tweak a few leader lengths for the Razor and Renegade. The Envy might require a little reworking, but I bet it would not be all that difficult and certainly cheaper than a new bar.

Stoked with the Razors so far. A stand out kite for sure and aces in the suits you mentioned.

I have not tried the Razors or even seen one yet. Have ridden the Envy and Renegade. The Envy is more of a park and ride kite. A super wake style kite but I thought it was a little slow on the steering for loops and such. It is though probably the best in stability. The Renegade was the most nimble and fun out of the 2 to me. The 11m Renegade is faster than the Envy 9m. Jumping and hangtime are excellent. It"s also great at unhooked wave riding.

You just need to purchase a 2011 SLE Bar Upgrade Kit to use your 2008 SLE bar with the new 2011 Razor. I have just taken delivery of an 8m (with the mini 5th freestyle bar) Just waiting for the wind to show to get on the water with it!

If your 14M Rise is the kite for your winds, a Razor 12M might be your kite.Razors will be faster turning, better relaunch in light wind, more low end grunt than Rise, still with good boost and float, and still Ocean Rodeo tough construction.

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