What did al-Jazeera report after the attack? Did they check their sources before broadcasting al-Qaeda's claim of responsibility? Has the claim ever been retracted? Or are both organisations also part of the same conspiracy, along with Israel and the US?

God has the right to remain silent. For His advocates, however, each resigned shrug is a missed opportunity to win new converts.

Ron,
fact is something science can prove, in this video science is proving that what happened could not have happened with what was available there according to the official statement.
You are telling me the governments don't lie to their people? Our government never lied to us?
There is more to it, and to get to that truth, we need to reopen this case and find the truth independently without any influences for any side except the truth.
Hasan

Edited by honeto - 18 October 2012 at 3:34pm

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

What did al-Jazeera report after the attack? Did they check their sources before broadcasting al-Qaeda's claim of responsibility? Has the claim ever been retracted? Or are both organisations also part of the same conspiracy, along with Israel and the US?

I do not know, I do not watch Al-Jazeera.
Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

Ron, fact is something science can prove, in this video science is proving that what happened could not have happened with what was available there according to the official statement.

If there is any actual science in this video, I wish you would tell me about it. So far all you've told me are a number of unsubstantiated claims. I'm still waiting for you to offer the name and credentials of a single one of the so-called "experts" in this video. Without that, it's not science, just hearsay.

You are telling me the governments don't lie to their people? Our government never lied to us?

I'm saying that our/your government never killed thousands of its own citizens simply to score some kind of cheap propaganda victory, and even if it did there is no way such a thing could be kept secret. What you are suggesting is not only enormously evil, but as far as I can tell pretty much pointless and not worth the risk.

I'm also saying that in order to present a convincing alternative theory, you need to show that it is more plausible the conventional explanation. So far all you have done is to nitpick tiny details of the official version, while totally ignoring the huge logical and logistical improbabilities of your own.

Ron, fact is something science can prove, in this video science is proving that what happened could not have happened with what was available there according to the official statement.

If there is any actual science in this video, I wish you would tell me about it. So far all you've told me are a number of unsubstantiated claims. I'm still waiting for you to offer the name and credentials of a single one of the so-called "experts" in this video. Without that, it's not science, just hearsay.

You are telling me the governments don't lie to their people? Our government never lied to us?

I'm saying that our/your government never killed thousands of its own citizens simply to score some kind of cheap propaganda victory, and even if it did there is no way such a thing could be kept secret. What you are suggesting is not only enormously evil, but as far as I can tell pretty much pointless and not worth the risk.

I'm also saying that in order to present a convincing alternative theory, you need to show that it is more plausible the conventional explanation. So far all you have done is to nitpick tiny details of the official version, while totally ignoring the huge logical and logistical improbabilities of your own.

Ron.estion
the answer to your first question: It is in the video, watch it, and then tell me if that's not science.

Government not killing its own people, a separate issue but you did not answer my question, does our or any Government ever lies to its people?

And I am not presenting any theories as I stated before, I am only questioning official theories.
Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

the answer to your first question: It is in the video, watch it, and then tell me if that's not science.

If what is not science? No, a video is not science. If you think the video contains science, then tell me what. Don't expect me to go hunting for it.

Government not killing its own people, a separate issue but you did not answer my question, does our or any Government ever lies to its people?

Of course it does, when there is a strong motivation to do so and and fair probability that they might get away with it. But neither of those contingencies applies here. Calling them a "separate issue" does not answer them.

What you're implying would require the coordinated activities of literally hundreds of truly sick minds, to slaughter thousands of their own citizens for no compelling purpose that I can see. One or two I could easily believe, but hundreds? And even if they existed, how could they identify one another and coordinate their actions without anyone else finding out?

And I am not presenting any theories as I stated before, I am only questioning official theories. Hasan

And that's the problem. Whatever nitpicking objections you might want to suggest, the "official" theory remains the most likely explanation unless/until you can offer a better one.

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