Mister Freeze wrote:I've had to use both primaries snd rechargables: on the fly, sometimes you just have to get some off the shelf. I found the Ultrafire ss host for $24, so cheap enough to be worth it.

If you dont like the shininess you can send the host to me and I can throw it in my media tumbler and give it a nice tumbled finish? Its great to hide scratches. I have about $800 bucks in different tumbling media...

Yeah, Mike. I'm thinking, just get the 18650 for the big lights, and say screw it on the rechargeable batteries for the TLR-1s. They don't recommend them and it just isn't worth it to risk overloading the light though Streamlight was great about fixing it the last time it broke due to recoil. I'll just buy regular CR123A's.

Do you know if the Ultrafire already has an aspherical reflector in it? I'm no expert and can't tell from just looking.

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Ok, Mike. I went out and read a bunch of info on aspheric lenses. I guess the conundrum comes down to if the measurements are right, so that the lens can actually focus the light and not make it fuzzy. So far, this is my understanding of it, so if I'm wrong, please correct me.

Based on this, I realized that the smaller light that I used for caving had an aspheric lens in it. I think. When you push the head out, the light focuses into a tight beam, and projects the LED (it looks squarish and lego-like) onto the surface.

I'm going to get the battery. Should be able to take this light outdoors, in the future, for longer reach.

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The shooter will always matter more than the gear ever will.
Stop relying on others to do the work for you.
Shoot more, worry less.

MikeSantor wrote:You have it exactly right blue. Ash's kit screws onto the pill of a drop in so it can be focused. The beam is the most focused when the square projection of the LED is the most crisp and clear.

Ok, Mike, so what do I have to do to get this bad boy to be the best long ranger thrower I can get it.

Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity.
The shooter will always matter more than the gear ever will.
Stop relying on others to do the work for you.
Shoot more, worry less.

MikeSantor wrote:You have it exactly right blue. Ash's kit screws onto the pill of a drop in so it can be focused. The beam is the most focused when the square projection of the LED is the most crisp and clear.

Ok, Mike, so what do I have to do to get this bad boy to be the best long ranger thrower I can get it.

Freeze is right. He is building a pretty bad ars thrower. You would be doing EXTREMELY well getting what he is getting.

Mister Freeze wrote:From what I've seen, don't most of these LED's have some sort of bubble lens directly on them? What kind of beam would they have without that?

Host ordered. Aspheric kit ordered. Up to $80...

The LEDs come with a dome. You can De Dome them and get a little more throw but the led CAN burn out suddenly and it WILL shorten the life of it. A lot of people De Dome the SST90 LED. They actually just made a De Domed SST90 called the SBT90. Another really good LED for throw. Lots of heat through. Not too good in the small form factor of the p60.

OK battery questions. My Sparker came with a single 18650 and an adaptor for 3xAAA batteries. From what I understand, 2xCR123's= 1x18650. Does that also mean 2xcr123=3xAAA? I have several 3xAAA lights (cheapies w/30x conventional LED's); can I put 18650's or CR123's in them?

Rapier1772 wrote:Whatz the best flashlight for taking out bear & cougar?
I go out hiking in the mountains & there is a chance I could ran across them. I needz to be ablez to fryz them in a momentz notize.

Do you mean either or? Like one at a time, either a bear, or a cougar? Or both at once, like a bear from the left and a cougar from the right? Or them together, like a Bougar (TM) or maybe like a totem pole where the cougar is on the bear's shoulders? We can't help if you aren't specific.