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--------------------As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know.

I believe r4 can have problems with ATI and other non-nvidia cards - for whatever reason (I'm an ATI kinda person btw). Try dling the latest build on the r4 site: http://r4.rabidhamster.org - might be more stable.

--------------------As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know.

After 10 minutes of loading it ran roughly at 10fps. I couldn't really judge but I like milkdrop better. Milk drop runs at 60fps too. It might be because I have a slow ass computer. I got a pentium 3 450. I got a geforce 4 though...

r4 isn't specifically associated with winamp, so you can use it with other media players or CD input, so this may be the cause of some complications. Milkdrop is better, it's assocaited with winamp, it runs from winamp, and it always runs smoothly.

Holy FUCK. This fucking plugin is BAD ASS this is the best shti I have ever seen, and yes I have Milkdrop. This blows it away. if you have a niceass computer (which I do, I built it myself) capable of running 1280x1024 on 72 FPS straight like I am, this is FUCKING INSANE.

Thank you dude. 5 shrooms.

But im fucking pissed off i cant get the screenshots to work, this could make some SWEET fucking desktops.