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What makes you say that Danzo descended from the Senju? There is nothing in the manga that hints to to that.

He was considered as a hokage candidate, that already means he is closer to Senju than Uchiha.

The same way with Kakashi, as his father was The White Fanga (his lineage was a very important factor, more than his fame), with means he was closer to Senju than Uchiha as well, then we have Jiraya, Tsunada, Oro and all dead hokages.

He was considered as a hokage candidate, that already means he is closer to Senju than Uchiha.

The same way with Kakashi, as his father was The White Fanga (his lineage was a very important factor, more than his fame), with means he was closer to Senju than Uchiha as well, then we have Jiraya, Tsunada, Oro and all dead hokages.

Danzo is NEITHER Senju or Uchiha. Everyone from Konoha isnt a part of one of those clans. In fact most of Konoha are normal ninja that are not descended from the rikudou.

does naruto still retain all this power while in his new kyuubi-mode, and commanding basically all the chakra of the kyuubi itself???

My Answer will be NO HE DOES NOT (sort of)!

Why, you ask?

answer 1).....Naruto is a doofus ninja with no talent, the mooves you saw were being done by the Kyuubi itself
answer 2).....Kishimot (an Mangas in general too) is not consistent (love you Kishi, but it's true).

I am not perfect andI defy you to prove otherwise Growing Old Gracefully is an Oxymoron ... Mostly Moron !

answer 1).....Naruto is a doofus ninja with no talent, the mooves you saw were being done by the Kyuubi itself
answer 2).....Kishimot (an Mangas in general too) is not consistent (love you Kishi, but it's true).

I believe that Naruto has the Potential to do some of these things. However, note that he cannot use all the power of the Kyuubi because of the two way chakra flow problem.

In other words, Naruto cannot as of yet do the things that the Kyuubi could do by itself. I don't expect to see Naruto using such overpowered moves, at least not until he learns to combine Sage mode with Kyuubi mode. And even then, he just won't have the savagery of the Kyuubi to enable him to Rip that much power.

I am not perfect andI defy you to prove otherwise Growing Old Gracefully is an Oxymoron ... Mostly Moron !

The problem I see is that Kishi seems to have decreased the Kyuubi's own power-level... at the moment, Naruto seems amazing in his Kyuubi Mode, but not that far beyond Sage Mode.

It seems a common problem with Mangas. Kishi has not been entirely consistent with the QB's power levels, but the Work-Around is that Kyuubi in the past was using his own power (through Naruto), so he could use it to the Max available, and with his own combat experience.

I am not perfect andI defy you to prove otherwise Growing Old Gracefully is an Oxymoron ... Mostly Moron !

does naruto still retain all this power while in his new kyuubi-mode, and commanding basically all the chakra of the kyuubi itself???

To be more accurate he does but he can not tap into it because as it was explained by KB since Naruto has not yet Tamed the Kyuubi and it does not cooperate with him and when he goes Rikudo mode and borrows the Kyuubi chakra he has to shelf his own chakra which the Kyuubi steals.

The same reason he can not transform into Kyuubi mode as I think using all that dense concentration of energy like that in wild form requires Kyuubi cooperation. He can however tap into a fraction of that with his new Rasengan-bomb.

Danzo is NEITHER Senju or Uchiha. Everyone from Konoha isnt a part of one of those clans. In fact most of Konoha are normal ninja that are not descended from the rikudou.

Konoha was the first ninja vilage. The two heads of the strongest clans (Uchiha and Senju) gathered all ninja clans in their reach and created Konoha. Almost all people in konoha have a ninja lineage and probably about a 1/6 has a pretty long one (the 3 clans, Senju, Uchiha, Hyuga etc.).

Example of a ninja without any lineage, is Lee (but who knows ? xD). His ninjutsu skills are close to none, if he we wasn't an extremly, beyond reasoning, hard working character, then even gening level could be out of reach. Normal humans, wouldn't probably go beyond chunin, most would be just a genin.

Most of the ninja clans are tied to Rikudou (most of the lineage is watered down), it's just like this in this manga, he is like Noe to the ninja world.