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Ladies PLEASE jog with a companion you cannot trust anybody these days. If they cannot jog get them a bike.

Ladies PLEASE jog with a companion you cannot trust anybody these days. If they cannot jog get them a bike.espanuel

Ladies PLEASE jog with a companion you cannot trust anybody these days. If they cannot jog get them a bike.

Score: 21

ToastyTea says...9:47am Mon 20 Jan 14

Awful. You'd be safer walking through Central Park in NYC at 3am these day than going through our parks during the day.

Awful. You'd be safer walking through Central Park in NYC at 3am these day than going through our parks during the day.ToastyTea

Awful. You'd be safer walking through Central Park in NYC at 3am these day than going through our parks during the day.

Score: 16

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...9:52am Mon 20 Jan 14

ToastyTea wrote…

Awful. You'd be safer walking through Central Park in NYC at 3am these day than going through our parks during the day.

much higher crime rate than liverpool,fact.

[quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote:
Awful. You'd be safer walking through Central Park in NYC at 3am these day than going through our parks during the day.[/p][/quote]much higher crime rate than liverpool,fact.WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.

ToastyTea wrote…

Awful. You'd be safer walking through Central Park in NYC at 3am these day than going through our parks during the day.

much higher crime rate than liverpool,fact.

Score: 1

lofty1990 says...10:00am Mon 20 Jan 14

Again!! How maney more times!!

Again!! How maney more times!!lofty1990

Again!! How maney more times!!

Score: 9

KA says...10:16am Mon 20 Jan 14

What time did it happen?

What time did it happen?KA

What time did it happen?

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ilovelamp says...10:19am Mon 20 Jan 14

espanuel wrote…

Ladies PLEASE jog with a companion you cannot trust anybody these days. If they cannot jog get them a bike.

Not just ladies men aswell. Southampton is fast becoming the rape/assault capital

[quote][p][bold]espanuel[/bold] wrote:
Ladies PLEASE jog with a companion you cannot trust anybody these days. If they cannot jog get them a bike.[/p][/quote]Not just ladies men aswell. Southampton is fast becoming the rape/assault capitalilovelamp

espanuel wrote…

Ladies PLEASE jog with a companion you cannot trust anybody these days. If they cannot jog get them a bike.

Not just ladies men aswell. Southampton is fast becoming the rape/assault capital

Score: 20

SotonLad says...10:36am Mon 20 Jan 14

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe.
Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.SotonLad

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

Score: -47

gingerella01 says...11:02am Mon 20 Jan 14

SotonLad wrote…

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment. How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.

[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote:
Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe.
Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.[/p][/quote]You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment.
How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.gingerella01

SotonLad wrote…

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment. How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.

Score: 52

SotonLad says...11:35am Mon 20 Jan 14

gingerella01 wrote…

SotonLad wrote…

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment. How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.

True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.

[quote][p][bold]gingerella01[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote:
Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe.
Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.[/p][/quote]You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment.
How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.[/p][/quote]True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.SotonLad

gingerella01 wrote…

SotonLad wrote…

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment. How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.

True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.

Score: -23

camerajuan says...11:51am Mon 20 Jan 14

SotonLad wrote…

gingerella01 wrote…

SotonLad wrote…

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment. How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.

True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.

I'm pretty sure its more to do with the amount of sick twisted morons in the city than lack of "proper precautions" as you put it. People should not fear being attacked anywhere in broad daylight on a well trodden path. It's not right and it has to stop.

[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]gingerella01[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote:
Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe.
Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.[/p][/quote]You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment.
How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.[/p][/quote]True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.[/p][/quote]I'm pretty sure its more to do with the amount of sick twisted morons in the city than lack of "proper precautions" as you put it.
People should not fear being attacked anywhere in broad daylight on a well trodden path. It's not right and it has to stop.camerajuan

SotonLad wrote…

gingerella01 wrote…

SotonLad wrote…

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment. How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.

True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.

I'm pretty sure its more to do with the amount of sick twisted morons in the city than lack of "proper precautions" as you put it. People should not fear being attacked anywhere in broad daylight on a well trodden path. It's not right and it has to stop.

Score: 34

gingerella01 says...12:26pm Mon 20 Jan 14

SotonLad wrote…

gingerella01 wrote…

SotonLad wrote…

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment. How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.

True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.

what do you term a 'basic precaution'? not running in a public area? So everyone should stick to treadmills? It is still happening because of the sickos who do it, not because of the victims' behaviour!

[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]gingerella01[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote:
Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe.
Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.[/p][/quote]You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment.
How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.[/p][/quote]True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.[/p][/quote]what do you term a 'basic precaution'? not running in a public area? So everyone should stick to treadmills?
It is still happening because of the sickos who do it, not because of the victims' behaviour!gingerella01

SotonLad wrote…

gingerella01 wrote…

SotonLad wrote…

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment. How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.

True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.

what do you term a 'basic precaution'? not running in a public area? So everyone should stick to treadmills? It is still happening because of the sickos who do it, not because of the victims' behaviour!

Score: 21

Mckinkle says...12:54pm Mon 20 Jan 14

This particular road has LONG been known as a dangerous place to be; I was aware of it back in the 70's and it doesnt seem to have changed at all. Surely the policing of it is not adequate for it to have such a bad reputation for 40yrs? Avoid the area if alone, it is as simple as that imo.

This particular road has LONG been known as a dangerous place to be; I was aware of it back in the 70's and it doesnt seem to have changed at all. Surely the policing of it is not adequate for it to have such a bad reputation for 40yrs?
Avoid the area if alone, it is as simple as that imo.Mckinkle

This particular road has LONG been known as a dangerous place to be; I was aware of it back in the 70's and it doesnt seem to have changed at all. Surely the policing of it is not adequate for it to have such a bad reputation for 40yrs? Avoid the area if alone, it is as simple as that imo.

Score: -3

sotontotty says...1:06pm Mon 20 Jan 14

If I knew an area was renowned for attacks I'd simply avoid it!

If I knew an area was renowned for attacks I'd simply avoid it!sotontotty

If I knew an area was renowned for attacks I'd simply avoid it!

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Mary80 says...1:06pm Mon 20 Jan 14

As i keep saying just nuke the entire common its the only way t obe sure

As i keep saying just nuke the entire common its the only way t obe sureMary80

As i keep saying just nuke the entire common its the only way t obe sure

Score: -12

Huey says...1:09pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Ahhhhh what a place

Ahhhhh what a placeHuey

Ahhhhh what a place

Score: -1

gilbertratchet says...1:31pm Mon 20 Jan 14

camerajuan wrote…

SotonLad wrote…

gingerella01 wrote…

SotonLad wrote…

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment. How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.

True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.

I'm pretty sure its more to do with the amount of sick twisted morons in the city than lack of "proper precautions" as you put it. People should not fear being attacked anywhere in broad daylight on a well trodden path. It's not right and it has to stop.

But isn't it idiotic to take no preventative measures against the sick, twisted morons? THAT is his point. People ShOULDN'T be attacked. No. People also SHOULDN'T be starving. But they are, and insisting that they shouldn't achieves nothing whatsoever. We don't live in a world of should, we live in a world of is.

[quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]gingerella01[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote:
Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe.
Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.[/p][/quote]You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment.
How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.[/p][/quote]True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.[/p][/quote]I'm pretty sure its more to do with the amount of sick twisted morons in the city than lack of "proper precautions" as you put it.
People should not fear being attacked anywhere in broad daylight on a well trodden path. It's not right and it has to stop.[/p][/quote]But isn't it idiotic to take no preventative measures against the sick, twisted morons? THAT is his point. People ShOULDN'T be attacked. No. People also SHOULDN'T be starving. But they are, and insisting that they shouldn't achieves nothing whatsoever. We don't live in a world of should, we live in a world of is.gilbertratchet

camerajuan wrote…

SotonLad wrote…

gingerella01 wrote…

SotonLad wrote…

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment. How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.

True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.

I'm pretty sure its more to do with the amount of sick twisted morons in the city than lack of "proper precautions" as you put it. People should not fear being attacked anywhere in broad daylight on a well trodden path. It's not right and it has to stop.

But isn't it idiotic to take no preventative measures against the sick, twisted morons? THAT is his point. People ShOULDN'T be attacked. No. People also SHOULDN'T be starving. But they are, and insisting that they shouldn't achieves nothing whatsoever. We don't live in a world of should, we live in a world of is.

Score: -1

gilbertratchet says...1:32pm Mon 20 Jan 14

SotonLad wrote…

gingerella01 wrote…

SotonLad wrote…

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment. How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.

True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.

For the record, I agree with you. Were it not for the seriousness of the subject matter, I'd be amused at the thought that Echo readers could prevent rape by down-voting your posts.

[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]gingerella01[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SotonLad[/bold] wrote:
Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe.
Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.[/p][/quote]You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment.
How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.[/p][/quote]True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.[/p][/quote]For the record, I agree with you. Were it not for the seriousness of the subject matter, I'd be amused at the thought that Echo readers could prevent rape by down-voting your posts.gilbertratchet

SotonLad wrote…

gingerella01 wrote…

SotonLad wrote…

Basic crime prevention - would you leave a laptop on your car seat with the window open? No. So why jog in these areas that are unsafe. Due to the government cuts there are not enough police to deal with the crime reports let alone be free to be a proactive detterant so we have to take responsibility for our own safety and be sensible.

You cannot compare a person to a laptop, what an idiotic comment. How is it not sensible, she was jogging in the morning, not late at night, it should be safe! Typical ignorant victim blaming.

True, it's SHOULD be safe, but it's not. And we know it's not, we read about it weekly so why is it still happening? Because people are not taking basic precautions.

For the record, I agree with you. Were it not for the seriousness of the subject matter, I'd be amused at the thought that Echo readers could prevent rape by down-voting your posts.

Score: -3

Hampshire Hog says...1:39pm Mon 20 Jan 14

It seems unfortunately the sign of the times. As much as we have the right to walk jog run etc.....when and when we want life really instant as straight forward as that. Due to too many potential attackers around. and many that haven't been caught. Then those that are get off so lightly they probably go out and do it again. Personally i would love to walk in many remote places like woods, fields etc..... but i'm afraid i just won't do it unless i was in a group of people. The victim is in no way to blame and it must be a terrible thing to happen to a person. One thing i always take on board as my late father always taught me." Never think it can't happen to you and it's always other people" as that's just not the case. Hope they catch the attacker SOON.

It seems unfortunately the sign of the times. As much as we have the right to walk jog run etc.....when and when we want life really instant as straight forward as that. Due to too many potential attackers around. and many that haven't been caught. Then those that are get off so lightly they probably go out and do it again. Personally i would love to walk in many remote places like woods, fields etc..... but i'm afraid i just won't do it unless i was in a group of people. The victim is in no way to blame and it must be a terrible thing to happen to a person. One thing i always take on board as my late father always taught me." Never think it can't happen to you and it's always other people" as that's just not the case. Hope they catch the attacker SOON.Hampshire Hog

It seems unfortunately the sign of the times. As much as we have the right to walk jog run etc.....when and when we want life really instant as straight forward as that. Due to too many potential attackers around. and many that haven't been caught. Then those that are get off so lightly they probably go out and do it again. Personally i would love to walk in many remote places like woods, fields etc..... but i'm afraid i just won't do it unless i was in a group of people. The victim is in no way to blame and it must be a terrible thing to happen to a person. One thing i always take on board as my late father always taught me." Never think it can't happen to you and it's always other people" as that's just not the case. Hope they catch the attacker SOON.

Score: 7

gilbertratchet says...1:48pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Why is it only in the case of sexual assault that everyone assumes that preventative measures are an acceptance of responsibility? If someone suggests locking your front door, we don't accuse them of "victim blaming". We don't say "You should be free to leave your front door open as you see fit". So why sexual assault? Why can't we suggest preventative measures for sexual assault without being shot down in flames and accused of victim blaming?

Why is it only in the case of sexual assault that everyone assumes that preventative measures are an acceptance of responsibility? If someone suggests locking your front door, we don't accuse them of "victim blaming". We don't say "You should be free to leave your front door open as you see fit". So why sexual assault? Why can't we suggest preventative measures for sexual assault without being shot down in flames and accused of victim blaming?gilbertratchet

Why is it only in the case of sexual assault that everyone assumes that preventative measures are an acceptance of responsibility? If someone suggests locking your front door, we don't accuse them of "victim blaming". We don't say "You should be free to leave your front door open as you see fit". So why sexual assault? Why can't we suggest preventative measures for sexual assault without being shot down in flames and accused of victim blaming?

Score: 0

ArchersRoad says...1:53pm Mon 20 Jan 14

I'm sure the person in question is chastising themselves enough about not taking enough precaution when jogging without having moronic comments posted by the likes of 'gilbertratchet' inferring that the person is an idiot. Try showing some empathy regarding an upsetting situation rather than criticising the unfortunate sole who was attacked. And if after that you still have a burning desire within you to criticise something, then may I suggest you direct it towards the council and authorities who have failed to make safe what should be a pleasant and relaxing area.

I'm sure the person in question is chastising themselves enough about not taking enough precaution when jogging without having moronic comments posted by the likes of 'gilbertratchet' inferring that the person is an idiot.
Try showing some empathy regarding an upsetting situation rather than criticising the unfortunate sole who was attacked. And if after that you still have a burning desire within you to criticise something, then may I suggest you direct it towards the council and authorities who have failed to make safe what should be a pleasant and relaxing area.ArchersRoad

I'm sure the person in question is chastising themselves enough about not taking enough precaution when jogging without having moronic comments posted by the likes of 'gilbertratchet' inferring that the person is an idiot. Try showing some empathy regarding an upsetting situation rather than criticising the unfortunate sole who was attacked. And if after that you still have a burning desire within you to criticise something, then may I suggest you direct it towards the council and authorities who have failed to make safe what should be a pleasant and relaxing area.

Score: 15

gingerella01 says...2:01pm Mon 20 Jan 14

gilbertratchet wrote…

Why is it only in the case of sexual assault that everyone assumes that preventative measures are an acceptance of responsibility? If someone suggests locking your front door, we don't accuse them of "victim blaming". We don't say "You should be free to leave your front door open as you see fit". So why sexual assault? Why can't we suggest preventative measures for sexual assault without being shot down in flames and accused of victim blaming?

Because you can't compare leaving a door unlocked to running through a public park! One is clearly asking for trouble and a basic thing to do, the other is a common daily occurrence which people have the right to do without fear of attack! I agree with being cautious to an extent, such as not going to the common alone after dark, but in broad daylight, it's ridiculous to say she shouldn't have done it!

[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote:
Why is it only in the case of sexual assault that everyone assumes that preventative measures are an acceptance of responsibility? If someone suggests locking your front door, we don't accuse them of "victim blaming". We don't say "You should be free to leave your front door open as you see fit". So why sexual assault? Why can't we suggest preventative measures for sexual assault without being shot down in flames and accused of victim blaming?[/p][/quote]Because you can't compare leaving a door unlocked to running through a public park! One is clearly asking for trouble and a basic thing to do, the other is a common daily occurrence which people have the right to do without fear of attack!
I agree with being cautious to an extent, such as not going to the common alone after dark, but in broad daylight, it's ridiculous to say she shouldn't have done it!gingerella01

gilbertratchet wrote…

Why is it only in the case of sexual assault that everyone assumes that preventative measures are an acceptance of responsibility? If someone suggests locking your front door, we don't accuse them of "victim blaming". We don't say "You should be free to leave your front door open as you see fit". So why sexual assault? Why can't we suggest preventative measures for sexual assault without being shot down in flames and accused of victim blaming?

Because you can't compare leaving a door unlocked to running through a public park! One is clearly asking for trouble and a basic thing to do, the other is a common daily occurrence which people have the right to do without fear of attack! I agree with being cautious to an extent, such as not going to the common alone after dark, but in broad daylight, it's ridiculous to say she shouldn't have done it!

Score: 7

gilbertratchet says...2:18pm Mon 20 Jan 14

ArchersRoad wrote…

I'm sure the person in question is chastising themselves enough about not taking enough precaution when jogging without having moronic comments posted by the likes of 'gilbertratchet' inferring that the person is an idiot. Try showing some empathy regarding an upsetting situation rather than criticising the unfortunate sole who was attacked. And if after that you still have a burning desire within you to criticise something, then may I suggest you direct it towards the council and authorities who have failed to make safe what should be a pleasant and relaxing area.

You're actually making my point for me. I'm quite specifically NOT saying the victim is at fault. I'm saying it's impossible for anyone to suggest pre-emptive measures, without being accused of, well, exactly what you're accusing me of. By the way, I imply. You infer.

[quote][p][bold]ArchersRoad[/bold] wrote:
I'm sure the person in question is chastising themselves enough about not taking enough precaution when jogging without having moronic comments posted by the likes of 'gilbertratchet' inferring that the person is an idiot.
Try showing some empathy regarding an upsetting situation rather than criticising the unfortunate sole who was attacked. And if after that you still have a burning desire within you to criticise something, then may I suggest you direct it towards the council and authorities who have failed to make safe what should be a pleasant and relaxing area.[/p][/quote]You're actually making my point for me. I'm quite specifically NOT saying the victim is at fault. I'm saying it's impossible for anyone to suggest pre-emptive measures, without being accused of, well, exactly what you're accusing me of.
By the way, I imply. You infer.gilbertratchet

ArchersRoad wrote…

I'm sure the person in question is chastising themselves enough about not taking enough precaution when jogging without having moronic comments posted by the likes of 'gilbertratchet' inferring that the person is an idiot. Try showing some empathy regarding an upsetting situation rather than criticising the unfortunate sole who was attacked. And if after that you still have a burning desire within you to criticise something, then may I suggest you direct it towards the council and authorities who have failed to make safe what should be a pleasant and relaxing area.

You're actually making my point for me. I'm quite specifically NOT saying the victim is at fault. I'm saying it's impossible for anyone to suggest pre-emptive measures, without being accused of, well, exactly what you're accusing me of. By the way, I imply. You infer.

Score: 0

ArchersRoad says...2:36pm Mon 20 Jan 14

I would suggest that saying 'But isn't it idiotic to take no preventative measures ' is implying (thank you for the correction) that you are calling the victim an idiot. My point stands. Show some sympathy and class rather than criticising the victim, who for all you know could be reading your misguided comments.

I would suggest that saying 'But isn't it idiotic to take no preventative measures ' is implying (thank you for the correction) that you are calling the victim an idiot.
My point stands. Show some sympathy and class rather than criticising the victim, who for all you know could be reading your misguided comments.ArchersRoad

I would suggest that saying 'But isn't it idiotic to take no preventative measures ' is implying (thank you for the correction) that you are calling the victim an idiot. My point stands. Show some sympathy and class rather than criticising the victim, who for all you know could be reading your misguided comments.

Score: 2

Huey says...2:48pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Quality bickering as usual, ladies. Keep it up. This site wouldn't be the same without it.

Quality bickering as usual, ladies.
Keep it up.
This site wouldn't be the same without it.Huey

Quality bickering as usual, ladies. Keep it up. This site wouldn't be the same without it.

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Mary80 says...2:59pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Men and women should be allowed to jog no matter the time without some utter scumbag attacking them. It was during the day how on earth can the victim "protect herself", friggin arm herself with stun guns and mace? This is Southampton not South Central Los Angeles

Men and women should be allowed to jog no matter the time without some utter scumbag attacking them. It was during the day how on earth can the victim "protect herself", friggin arm herself with stun guns and mace? This is Southampton not South Central Los AngelesMary80

Men and women should be allowed to jog no matter the time without some utter scumbag attacking them. It was during the day how on earth can the victim "protect herself", friggin arm herself with stun guns and mace? This is Southampton not South Central Los Angeles

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FemaleJogger says...3:21pm Mon 20 Jan 14

To ANYONE criticising MY actions whilst out running yesterday, in broad daylight with many other joggers, dog walkers and general public around like there is every day in Southampton Common, I hope to god that this never happens to any of you or your family because it is a horrific incident that NO ONE should have to encounter. Whether that be in a busy city centre or a public park at any time of day. Save your ignorant comments on here and take your suggestions to your local MP or police stations instead of making a mockery of MY situation. THIS DOES NOT WARRANT A REPLY! I forgive those who trespass against us. I do not fear this man, I pity him. I am a better, stronger person.

To ANYONE criticising MY actions whilst out running yesterday, in broad daylight with many other joggers, dog walkers and general public around like there is every day in Southampton Common, I hope to god that this never happens to any of you or your family because it is a horrific incident that NO ONE should have to encounter. Whether that be in a busy city centre or a public park at any time of day.
Save your ignorant comments on here and take your suggestions to your local MP or police stations instead of making a mockery of MY situation.
THIS DOES NOT WARRANT A REPLY!
I forgive those who trespass against us. I do not fear this man, I pity him.
I am a better, stronger person.FemaleJogger

To ANYONE criticising MY actions whilst out running yesterday, in broad daylight with many other joggers, dog walkers and general public around like there is every day in Southampton Common, I hope to god that this never happens to any of you or your family because it is a horrific incident that NO ONE should have to encounter. Whether that be in a busy city centre or a public park at any time of day. Save your ignorant comments on here and take your suggestions to your local MP or police stations instead of making a mockery of MY situation. THIS DOES NOT WARRANT A REPLY! I forgive those who trespass against us. I do not fear this man, I pity him. I am a better, stronger person.

Score: 23

espanuel says...3:39pm Mon 20 Jan 14

ToastyTea wrote…

Awful. You'd be safer walking through Central Park in NYC at 3am these day than going through our parks during the day.

We have done that. Beautiful city, been there many times.

[quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote:
Awful. You'd be safer walking through Central Park in NYC at 3am these day than going through our parks during the day.[/p][/quote]We have done that. Beautiful city, been there many times.espanuel

ToastyTea wrote…

Awful. You'd be safer walking through Central Park in NYC at 3am these day than going through our parks during the day.

We have done that. Beautiful city, been there many times.

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gilbertratchet says...3:43pm Mon 20 Jan 14

ArchersRoad wrote…

I would suggest that saying 'But isn't it idiotic to take no preventative measures ' is implying (thank you for the correction) that you are calling the victim an idiot. My point stands. Show some sympathy and class rather than criticising the victim, who for all you know could be reading your misguided comments.

I AM NOT CRITICISING THE VICTIM! Good god you people are thick sometimes.

[quote][p][bold]ArchersRoad[/bold] wrote:
I would suggest that saying 'But isn't it idiotic to take no preventative measures ' is implying (thank you for the correction) that you are calling the victim an idiot.
My point stands. Show some sympathy and class rather than criticising the victim, who for all you know could be reading your misguided comments.[/p][/quote]I AM NOT CRITICISING THE VICTIM!
Good god you people are thick sometimes.gilbertratchet

ArchersRoad wrote…

I would suggest that saying 'But isn't it idiotic to take no preventative measures ' is implying (thank you for the correction) that you are calling the victim an idiot. My point stands. Show some sympathy and class rather than criticising the victim, who for all you know could be reading your misguided comments.

I AM NOT CRITICISING THE VICTIM! Good god you people are thick sometimes.

Score: -6

gilbertratchet says...3:44pm Mon 20 Jan 14

FemaleJogger wrote…

To ANYONE criticising MY actions whilst out running yesterday, in broad daylight with many other joggers, dog walkers and general public around like there is every day in Southampton Common, I hope to god that this never happens to any of you or your family because it is a horrific incident that NO ONE should have to encounter. Whether that be in a busy city centre or a public park at any time of day. Save your ignorant comments on here and take your suggestions to your local MP or police stations instead of making a mockery of MY situation. THIS DOES NOT WARRANT A REPLY! I forgive those who trespass against us. I do not fear this man, I pity him. I am a better, stronger person.

Nice try, troll.

[quote][p][bold]FemaleJogger[/bold] wrote:
To ANYONE criticising MY actions whilst out running yesterday, in broad daylight with many other joggers, dog walkers and general public around like there is every day in Southampton Common, I hope to god that this never happens to any of you or your family because it is a horrific incident that NO ONE should have to encounter. Whether that be in a busy city centre or a public park at any time of day.
Save your ignorant comments on here and take your suggestions to your local MP or police stations instead of making a mockery of MY situation.
THIS DOES NOT WARRANT A REPLY!
I forgive those who trespass against us. I do not fear this man, I pity him.
I am a better, stronger person.[/p][/quote]Nice try, troll.gilbertratchet

FemaleJogger wrote…

To ANYONE criticising MY actions whilst out running yesterday, in broad daylight with many other joggers, dog walkers and general public around like there is every day in Southampton Common, I hope to god that this never happens to any of you or your family because it is a horrific incident that NO ONE should have to encounter. Whether that be in a busy city centre or a public park at any time of day. Save your ignorant comments on here and take your suggestions to your local MP or police stations instead of making a mockery of MY situation. THIS DOES NOT WARRANT A REPLY! I forgive those who trespass against us. I do not fear this man, I pity him. I am a better, stronger person.

Nice try, troll.

Score: -14

espanuel says...3:58pm Mon 20 Jan 14

FemaleJogger wrote…

To ANYONE criticising MY actions whilst out running yesterday, in broad daylight with many other joggers, dog walkers and general public around like there is every day in Southampton Common, I hope to god that this never happens to any of you or your family because it is a horrific incident that NO ONE should have to encounter. Whether that be in a busy city centre or a public park at any time of day. Save your ignorant comments on here and take your suggestions to your local MP or police stations instead of making a mockery of MY situation. THIS DOES NOT WARRANT A REPLY! I forgive those who trespass against us. I do not fear this man, I pity him. I am a better, stronger person.

A lot of the comments are not ignorant. The problem these days is that a lot of the time you cannot go outside home or a recreational area without some prat wants to interfere whether you are two or ninety two. I am not making a mockery of your situation. At the end of the day it is better to be safe than sorry. You never put yourself in a situation that you could be molested it is the world today that allows this to go on, Suggestions to MPs or the police will not solve the problem, the law is too lenient to the offenders. No person needs to be ridiculed because of an attack on he or she until they know all the circumstances. FemaleJogger take care.

[quote][p][bold]FemaleJogger[/bold] wrote:
To ANYONE criticising MY actions whilst out running yesterday, in broad daylight with many other joggers, dog walkers and general public around like there is every day in Southampton Common, I hope to god that this never happens to any of you or your family because it is a horrific incident that NO ONE should have to encounter. Whether that be in a busy city centre or a public park at any time of day.
Save your ignorant comments on here and take your suggestions to your local MP or police stations instead of making a mockery of MY situation.
THIS DOES NOT WARRANT A REPLY!
I forgive those who trespass against us. I do not fear this man, I pity him.
I am a better, stronger person.[/p][/quote]A lot of the comments are not ignorant. The problem these days is that a lot of the time you cannot go outside home or a recreational area without some prat wants to interfere whether you are two or ninety two. I am not making a mockery of your situation. At the end of the day it is better to be safe than sorry. You never put yourself in a situation that you could be molested it is the world today that allows this to go on, Suggestions to MPs or the police will not solve the problem, the law is too lenient to the offenders. No person needs to be ridiculed because of an attack on he or she until they know all the circumstances. FemaleJogger take care.espanuel

FemaleJogger wrote…

To ANYONE criticising MY actions whilst out running yesterday, in broad daylight with many other joggers, dog walkers and general public around like there is every day in Southampton Common, I hope to god that this never happens to any of you or your family because it is a horrific incident that NO ONE should have to encounter. Whether that be in a busy city centre or a public park at any time of day. Save your ignorant comments on here and take your suggestions to your local MP or police stations instead of making a mockery of MY situation. THIS DOES NOT WARRANT A REPLY! I forgive those who trespass against us. I do not fear this man, I pity him. I am a better, stronger person.

A lot of the comments are not ignorant. The problem these days is that a lot of the time you cannot go outside home or a recreational area without some prat wants to interfere whether you are two or ninety two. I am not making a mockery of your situation. At the end of the day it is better to be safe than sorry. You never put yourself in a situation that you could be molested it is the world today that allows this to go on, Suggestions to MPs or the police will not solve the problem, the law is too lenient to the offenders. No person needs to be ridiculed because of an attack on he or she until they know all the circumstances. FemaleJogger take care.

Score: -1

Mary80 says...3:59pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Who the **** keeps downvoting EVERY SINGLE POST i make? Get a **** life whoever you are

Who the **** keeps downvoting EVERY SINGLE POST i make? Get a **** life whoever you areMary80

Who the **** keeps downvoting EVERY SINGLE POST i make? Get a **** life whoever you are

Score: -26

LaurenG90 says...4:07pm Mon 20 Jan 14

As a very close friend of the victim in question, I am absolutely disgusted to the core reading some of these comments. If you are more interested in trolling this article with personal opinions on 'basic crime prevention' than helping find the sick twisted pervert that attacked my friend, I suggest you take your comments elsewhere. For those of you who are interested, my friend was running at 8:30am in daylight amongst dog walkers and runners alike. In the world we live in, attacks can happen anywhere, in a club, on the bus, at work, the list goes on. If you developed an attitude to avoid these areas 'just in case' I'm **** sure you would lead an extremely lonely existence. Blaming a victim in a case like this is the first step of ignoring the problem. Call me Einstein, but the more drains of society that are removed off our streets, the less crime we will see like this.

As a very close friend of the victim in question, I am absolutely disgusted to the core reading some of these comments. If you are more interested in trolling this article with personal opinions on 'basic crime prevention' than helping find the sick twisted pervert that attacked my friend, I suggest you take your comments elsewhere. For those of you who are interested, my friend was running at 8:30am in daylight amongst dog walkers and runners alike. In the world we live in, attacks can happen anywhere, in a club, on the bus, at work, the list goes on. If you developed an attitude to avoid these areas 'just in case' I'm **** sure you would lead an extremely lonely existence. Blaming a victim in a case like this is the first step of ignoring the problem. Call me Einstein, but the more drains of society that are removed off our streets, the less crime we will see like this.LaurenG90

As a very close friend of the victim in question, I am absolutely disgusted to the core reading some of these comments. If you are more interested in trolling this article with personal opinions on 'basic crime prevention' than helping find the sick twisted pervert that attacked my friend, I suggest you take your comments elsewhere. For those of you who are interested, my friend was running at 8:30am in daylight amongst dog walkers and runners alike. In the world we live in, attacks can happen anywhere, in a club, on the bus, at work, the list goes on. If you developed an attitude to avoid these areas 'just in case' I'm **** sure you would lead an extremely lonely existence. Blaming a victim in a case like this is the first step of ignoring the problem. Call me Einstein, but the more drains of society that are removed off our streets, the less crime we will see like this.

Score: 25

Mary80 says...7:45pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Mary80 wrote…

Who the **** keeps downvoting EVERY SINGLE POST i make? Get a **** life whoever you are

and my point stands downvoted for NO REASON WTF is wrong with people

[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote:
Who the **** keeps downvoting EVERY SINGLE POST i make? Get a **** life whoever you are[/p][/quote]and my point stands downvoted for NO REASON WTF is wrong with peopleMary80

Mary80 wrote…

Who the **** keeps downvoting EVERY SINGLE POST i make? Get a **** life whoever you are

and my point stands downvoted for NO REASON WTF is wrong with people

Score: -19

gilbertratchet says...9:00am Tue 21 Jan 14

Mary80 wrote…

Mary80 wrote…

Who the **** keeps downvoting EVERY SINGLE POST i make? Get a **** life whoever you are

and my point stands downvoted for NO REASON WTF is wrong with people

Who cares? They're meaningless internet points.

[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote:
Who the **** keeps downvoting EVERY SINGLE POST i make? Get a **** life whoever you are[/p][/quote]and my point stands downvoted for NO REASON WTF is wrong with people[/p][/quote]Who cares? They're meaningless internet points.gilbertratchet

Mary80 wrote…

Mary80 wrote…

Who the **** keeps downvoting EVERY SINGLE POST i make? Get a **** life whoever you are

and my point stands downvoted for NO REASON WTF is wrong with people

Who cares? They're meaningless internet points.

Score: 2

Happyface says...9:24am Tue 21 Jan 14

The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.

The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.Happyface

The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.

Score: -4

gingerella01 says...9:31am Tue 21 Jan 14

Happyface wrote…

The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.

sorry, how do you know she wasn't sexually assaulted? Were you there? If so you should call Crimestoppers!

[quote][p][bold]Happyface[/bold] wrote:
The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.[/p][/quote]sorry, how do you know she wasn't sexually assaulted? Were you there? If so you should call Crimestoppers!gingerella01

Happyface wrote…

The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.

sorry, how do you know she wasn't sexually assaulted? Were you there? If so you should call Crimestoppers!

Score: 0

Happyface says...9:46am Tue 21 Jan 14

gingerella01 wrote…

Happyface wrote…

The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.

sorry, how do you know she wasn't sexually assaulted? Were you there? If so you should call Crimestoppers!

Hampshire Constablary Website have have appealed for witnesses to an indecent assault, her breast and arm were grabbed and believe me an indecent assault is worlds away from a sexual attack or rape but as I said still a very frightening experience for the person in question.

[quote][p][bold]gingerella01[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Happyface[/bold] wrote:
The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.[/p][/quote]sorry, how do you know she wasn't sexually assaulted? Were you there? If so you should call Crimestoppers![/p][/quote]Hampshire Constablary Website have have appealed for witnesses to an indecent assault, her breast and arm were grabbed and believe me an indecent assault is worlds away from a sexual attack or rape but as I said still a very frightening experience for the person in question.Happyface

gingerella01 wrote…

Happyface wrote…

The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.

sorry, how do you know she wasn't sexually assaulted? Were you there? If so you should call Crimestoppers!

Hampshire Constablary Website have have appealed for witnesses to an indecent assault, her breast and arm were grabbed and believe me an indecent assault is worlds away from a sexual attack or rape but as I said still a very frightening experience for the person in question.

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gilbertratchet says...11:28am Tue 21 Jan 14

Happyface wrote…

gingerella01 wrote…

Happyface wrote…

The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.

sorry, how do you know she wasn't sexually assaulted? Were you there? If so you should call Crimestoppers!

Hampshire Constablary Website have have appealed for witnesses to an indecent assault, her breast and arm were grabbed and believe me an indecent assault is worlds away from a sexual attack or rape but as I said still a very frightening experience for the person in question.

Indeed. We need to stop hysterically labelling all of these things as "sexual assault", it actually diminishes the perceived severity of an actual sexual assault. Like you say, it doesn't diminish how horrible the incident was for the victim, but let's not insult rape victims by saying someone grabbing your breasts fleetingly is basically the same thing as rape.

[quote][p][bold]Happyface[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]gingerella01[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Happyface[/bold] wrote:
The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.[/p][/quote]sorry, how do you know she wasn't sexually assaulted? Were you there? If so you should call Crimestoppers![/p][/quote]Hampshire Constablary Website have have appealed for witnesses to an indecent assault, her breast and arm were grabbed and believe me an indecent assault is worlds away from a sexual attack or rape but as I said still a very frightening experience for the person in question.[/p][/quote]Indeed. We need to stop hysterically labelling all of these things as "sexual assault", it actually diminishes the perceived severity of an actual sexual assault. Like you say, it doesn't diminish how horrible the incident was for the victim, but let's not insult rape victims by saying someone grabbing your breasts fleetingly is basically the same thing as rape.gilbertratchet

Happyface wrote…

gingerella01 wrote…

Happyface wrote…

The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.

sorry, how do you know she wasn't sexually assaulted? Were you there? If so you should call Crimestoppers!

Hampshire Constablary Website have have appealed for witnesses to an indecent assault, her breast and arm were grabbed and believe me an indecent assault is worlds away from a sexual attack or rape but as I said still a very frightening experience for the person in question.

Indeed. We need to stop hysterically labelling all of these things as "sexual assault", it actually diminishes the perceived severity of an actual sexual assault. Like you say, it doesn't diminish how horrible the incident was for the victim, but let's not insult rape victims by saying someone grabbing your breasts fleetingly is basically the same thing as rape.

Score: -2

gingerella01 says...12:35pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Happyface wrote…

gingerella01 wrote…

Happyface wrote…

The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.

sorry, how do you know she wasn't sexually assaulted? Were you there? If so you should call Crimestoppers!

Hampshire Constablary Website have have appealed for witnesses to an indecent assault, her breast and arm were grabbed and believe me an indecent assault is worlds away from a sexual attack or rape but as I said still a very frightening experience for the person in question.

It doesn't say on there that her breasts and arms were grabbed. I don't think nit picking over the words used is helpful. they aren't 'worlds away', one could easily lead to the other. Why are you trying to diminish what happened, have some respect and common courtesy for the poor woman! why are so many of you commenters on here such insensitive cretins!

[quote][p][bold]Happyface[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]gingerella01[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Happyface[/bold] wrote:
The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.[/p][/quote]sorry, how do you know she wasn't sexually assaulted? Were you there? If so you should call Crimestoppers![/p][/quote]Hampshire Constablary Website have have appealed for witnesses to an indecent assault, her breast and arm were grabbed and believe me an indecent assault is worlds away from a sexual attack or rape but as I said still a very frightening experience for the person in question.[/p][/quote]It doesn't say on there that her breasts and arms were grabbed.
I don't think nit picking over the words used is helpful. they aren't 'worlds away', one could easily lead to the other. Why are you trying to diminish what happened, have some respect and common courtesy for the poor woman!
why are so many of you commenters on here such insensitive cretins!gingerella01

Happyface wrote…

gingerella01 wrote…

Happyface wrote…

The jogger in question was indecently assaulted not sexually assaulted or raped, still a very frightening experience and one that would have shook her up and frightened her but I have to agree with previous comments, unfortunately the area is known for these attacks at various times of the day. It shouldn’t happen but it does and I think prevention is essential together with police investing more time to catch the scum that lurk.

sorry, how do you know she wasn't sexually assaulted? Were you there? If so you should call Crimestoppers!

Hampshire Constablary Website have have appealed for witnesses to an indecent assault, her breast and arm were grabbed and believe me an indecent assault is worlds away from a sexual attack or rape but as I said still a very frightening experience for the person in question.

It doesn't say on there that her breasts and arms were grabbed. I don't think nit picking over the words used is helpful. they aren't 'worlds away', one could easily lead to the other. Why are you trying to diminish what happened, have some respect and common courtesy for the poor woman! why are so many of you commenters on here such insensitive cretins!

Score: 0

Happyface says...1:08pm Tue 21 Jan 14

I actually know as fact via a friend of a friend with regard to what took place. As a rape victim myself I know whole heartedly that a grabbing of an arm and breast is worlds away from what this young women experienced. I and my friends have been in town of an evening and disgustingly had men grope and grab us while waiting at bar, walking past them or on the dance floor, this is not classed as sexual assault but is the same type of incident. Again I reiterate no doubt the women in question was shook up and frightened but I think the facts of the incident need to be correct from the onset, her arm and breast were grabbed as she jogged past, this is not the same as a sexual assault or rape. Clearly this man needs to be caught as he may very well progress to further stronger attacks and it was the right course of action reporting it to the police but as gilbertratchet states it diminishes the perceived severity of an actual sexual assault or rape. Surely the facts of an actual incident to be correct in the first instance and not be exaggerated? This is not “picking over words” it is simply using the correct terminology when informing the public. No has been insensitive in the comments they have made, they have simply stated their opinion with regard to prevention measures that as people we can take to look after ourselves, like wearing a seatbelt or a crash helmet .

I actually know as fact via a friend of a friend with regard to what took place. As a rape victim myself I know whole heartedly that a grabbing of an arm and breast is worlds away from what this young women experienced. I and my friends have been in town of an evening and disgustingly had men grope and grab us while waiting at bar, walking past them or on the dance floor, this is not classed as sexual assault but is the same type of incident. Again I reiterate no doubt the women in question was shook up and frightened but I think the facts of the incident need to be correct from the onset, her arm and breast were grabbed as she jogged past, this is not the same as a sexual assault or rape. Clearly this man needs to be caught as he may very well progress to further stronger attacks and it was the right course of action reporting it to the police but as gilbertratchet states it diminishes the perceived severity of an actual sexual assault or rape. Surely the facts of an actual incident to be correct in the first instance and not be exaggerated? This is not “picking over words” it is simply using the correct terminology when informing the public. No has been insensitive in the comments they have made, they have simply stated their opinion with regard to prevention measures that as people we can take to look after ourselves, like wearing a seatbelt or a crash helmet .Happyface

I actually know as fact via a friend of a friend with regard to what took place. As a rape victim myself I know whole heartedly that a grabbing of an arm and breast is worlds away from what this young women experienced. I and my friends have been in town of an evening and disgustingly had men grope and grab us while waiting at bar, walking past them or on the dance floor, this is not classed as sexual assault but is the same type of incident. Again I reiterate no doubt the women in question was shook up and frightened but I think the facts of the incident need to be correct from the onset, her arm and breast were grabbed as she jogged past, this is not the same as a sexual assault or rape. Clearly this man needs to be caught as he may very well progress to further stronger attacks and it was the right course of action reporting it to the police but as gilbertratchet states it diminishes the perceived severity of an actual sexual assault or rape. Surely the facts of an actual incident to be correct in the first instance and not be exaggerated? This is not “picking over words” it is simply using the correct terminology when informing the public. No has been insensitive in the comments they have made, they have simply stated their opinion with regard to prevention measures that as people we can take to look after ourselves, like wearing a seatbelt or a crash helmet .

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wilsoncastaway says...4:39pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Someone I know was once sexually assaulted in the grounds of a hospital.It can happen anywhere.I don't understand how people can state the obvious with all the could of..should of's..wheres the sympathy for the victim?. Blame the perpetrator.Not the innocent person simply going about their day.

Someone I know was once sexually assaulted in the grounds of a hospital.It can happen anywhere.I don't understand how people can state the obvious with all the could of..should of's..wheres the sympathy for the victim?. Blame the perpetrator.Not the innocent person simply going about their day.wilsoncastaway

Someone I know was once sexually assaulted in the grounds of a hospital.It can happen anywhere.I don't understand how people can state the obvious with all the could of..should of's..wheres the sympathy for the victim?. Blame the perpetrator.Not the innocent person simply going about their day.

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