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Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

1. Really tell that to Mandrigan and all the other majorly successfull cooperateives.

Mandrigan? I binged it but all I got was "did you mean mondrian" and a bunch of hotels named Mondrian. Must not be that successfull if they don't show up in a simple one word search.

Originally Posted by RGacky3

2. THey close up shop because they still want to make money.

I'm going to assume that you meant to put the word "don't" in there because otherwise it doesn't make sense. If that is what you meant then I agree. But it does prove a point doesn't it? If they closed up shop then 1.4 million people would be without a job and making NOTHING. So obviously they're more important than you think.

If however you actually meant that the way you worded it, please expand.

Also I would like you to answer a question that you did not answer before. If the Walkers jobs are so unimportant and anybody here on these forums could do them...why don't you have a similar buisness making the same amount?

I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

Originally Posted by Bobcat

Do you want the govt to set a cap on CEO pay? CEOs sole function is making the company survive and make money for the shareholders. In the Hostess case they decided it was better to close the doors than to have a company losing money due to union demands. Thats exactly what would have happened to GM if obozo had not bailed them and the UAW out with OUR money.

Nope. But with a stronger worker voice, they might see one isn't any good without the other.

And what Hostess did was poor management. They decided to pay high CEO pay, likely with a good golden parachute, and not tie it to results. This guy made a fortune and saw the doors close. Odd how some see bad workers and not bad management.

AUSTAN GOOLSBEE:I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

Originally Posted by Kal'Stang

Not with a minimum wage we couldn't. Not to mention we have government entitlements up the wazoo.

Oh, but many fight the idea of minimum wage. Rush does a great job on this. And absent what you call entitlements, and if we were actually socialist, or communist, or whatever buzz word Obama haters are using this week, we could have low wages and no regulations in a heart beat.

AUSTAN GOOLSBEE:I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

Originally Posted by Deuce

Many Wal-Mart employees qualify for food stamps. You and I are subsidizing their employees.
You mention "medical" but strangely left out the details. Details like how the company will strategically schedule employees to fall just below the threshold of being eligible, or the fact that you're not eligible at all for the first two years of employment. Or the premiums.

Only about half of Wal-Mart's employees get healthcare through the company. You and I pay for the other half.

Bold: This never happened with me (not saying it doesn't happen...just that it doesn't happen with every employee)...which brings me to the red...

Red: That is straight up false. They offer both medical benefits and stock options after having worked there for 3 months. I declined the medical benefits and took the stock option. I worked there for 6 months.

I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

Originally Posted by Boo Radley

Oh, but many fight the idea of minimum wage. Rush does a great job on this. And absent what you call entitlements, and if we were actually socialist, or communist, or whatever buzz word Obama haters are using this week, we could have low wages and no regulations in a heart beat.

Rush is an idiot. Don't listen to him myself.

I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

Originally Posted by Boo Radley

Nope. But with a stronger worker voice, they might see one isn't any good without the other.

And what Hostess did was poor management. They decided to pay high CEO pay, likely with a good golden parachute, and not tie it to results. This guy made a fortune and saw the doors close. Odd how some see bad workers and not bad management.

Its also odd how some don't see the Union bosses fault in what happened with Hostess.

I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

Originally Posted by Boo Radley

Nope. But with a stronger worker voice, they might see one isn't any good without the other.

And what Hostess did was poor management. They decided to pay high CEO pay, likely with a good golden parachute, and not tie it to results. This guy made a fortune and saw the doors close. Odd how some see bad workers and not bad management.

Bad management, unions have been losing membership for decades, I call that bad management of unions.

Tie the golden parachute to results, I like that idea of ting pay to results, such as teachers and any worker for that matter. And further being able to fire a bad teacher. Interesting how you want to hold CEO's feet to the fire, but a bad sucking union teacher can't be fired. Even teachers who are molesters can't be fired.

Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

Originally Posted by Kal'Stang

Its also odd how some don't see the Union bosses fault in what happened with Hostess.

No because it's always the business owner, the CEO, the rich bastard, can't be because of that stupid union manager that doesn't know dick about economics. And they wonder why they have been losing membership for decades. Union manager stupidity.

Re: Walmart workers demand better wages

Originally Posted by Bobcat

would you prefet to pay for those things through higher prices for everything you buy? thats the only other alternative.

So what you're saying is that by government (you and me tax payer) subsidizing retail, we have an distorted view of capitalism by way of maniuplation. Good intentions or not, capitalism, and free markets correct themselves when left alone. When muddled with, complexities arise causing myopia in every direction.

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