I have no idea how to get rid of bindweed, but I doubt mint will make a dent in it. It had a fairly deep and sprawling root system from what I understand.

This is kerrect. Nothing will get rid of bindweed, save for every time you see a bindweed sprout, dig down, and follow the roots as far in every direction as you can (note, this will impact everything growing within a five foot radius of the sprout - you will probably have to dig down a foot or more). Repeat for five years. I actually did this once.

I understand there is another option - the nuclear option: Tear everything out, put down thick black plastic, add new topsoil over the plastic. Supposedly after five to eight years, the bindweed will be dead. But I wouldn't count on it!

Aside from that, all you can do is manage it. If you rip out every sprout that pops up, you'll starve the roots enough to keep them from spreading very much.

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I did that with the Gout/Bishop's weed when we boght our house over 7 years ago. I still find the random peice of it now and then. Haven't managed to kill the roses either.

I just found out that ground elder is the same thing as Bout/Bishops's weed.

And yeah, I have been doing that digging/picking roots out thing. And I broke down and got roundup for the worst areas.

I tried roundup a couple of times. It helped, but didn't elimiate the stuff. Persistance is key.

My poor poor back! I hope my newly-planted fruit trees/bushes are worth it. Right now I just hope they don't die.

And wow, I didn't realize that the currant bushes (more like seedlings), smell like black currants. Really strongly, too. Made my mouth water.

Trying to decide what to plant between the trees. The "classic" look is grass with mulched brown rings around trees. But that is a big pain to mow. Mulch the whole thing and let it be? That's way too much mulch, bc they have to be spaced 5-10 feet apart, depending on which trees/bushes we are talking about. What could be a good ground cover that doesn't compete with the trees and looks good, tolerates walking, and doesn't require mowing? Could I plant some annuals/flowers between the trees for now, since they are really small, and leave mulched paths for walking?

I have a lot of Perwinkle which would fit the bill I think: [image]http://www.finegardening.com/CMS/uploadedImages/Images/Gardening/Plants/vincaminor_markkane_1_lg.jpg[/image]

I'm not sure how much walking you plan on doing, but it certainly tolerates light walking. Only problem is that it isn't a tight ground cover and other plants grown through it fairly easily. Great if you want bulbs and hostas to come up through, bad in the spring pulling out seedlings from the maple keys.

I also have it in almost full sun and esentially full shade, it's pretty hardy and fairly easy to pull out if it starts wandering where it shouldn't. It also has pretty little purple flowers. Oh, and I never water any of it.

i need to tear out a bunch of periwinkle and its a real bitch.

Any that I've taken ot I just tear out. I'm not saying that it's easy to clear out a bunch, just that it's fairly shallow rooted and easy compared to a lot of suff out there.

So I went to view an apartment this morning. I pull up, and it is this older (50s) woman. First thing she does is hand me a picture of Lafayette, and start spraying about how much she loves colonial williamsburg. We go by her truck, which is plastered with Romney stickers and anti-obama stickers, and into the garage which has Bush Cheney yard signs against the wall. She keeps talking about how she is trying to model the place after Williamsburg, and even ordered paints based off of the colonial recipes. My kookdetector is pegged at this point, and we went into the place which reeked of old lady and yankee candle. After repeatedly calling her tenants her kids and telling about how she's in the middle of evicting a family with children, while simultaneously complaining about how the rain has slowed her renovations, I finally managed to bail.

The old doc would have called her a fascist and bailed immediately. I must be getting soft.

The good news is that we found another place that is owned by climbers, has plenty of gardening space and a climbing wall. Probably going to move there.

That's a pretty good story! But yeah, you are getting old and soft in your dotage.

So I went to view an apartment this morning. I pull up, and it is this older (50s) woman. First thing she does is hand me a picture of Lafayette, and start spraying about how much she loves colonial williamsburg. We go by her truck, which is plastered with Romney stickers and anti-obama stickers, and into the garage which has Bush Cheney yard signs against the wall. She keeps talking about how she is trying to model the place after Williamsburg, and even ordered paints based off of the colonial recipes. My kookdetector is pegged at this point, and we went into the place which reeked of old lady and yankee candle. After repeatedly calling her tenants her kids and telling about how she's in the middle of evicting a family with children, while simultaneously complaining about how the rain has slowed her renovations, I finally managed to bail.

The old doc would have called her a fascist and bailed immediately. I must be getting soft.

The good news is that we found another place that is owned by climbers, has plenty of gardening space and a climbing wall. Probably going to move there.

And I realized that the place I'm renting has a bunch of the non-verigated goutweed at the back. Everything I've read has told me that this stuff is was hardier than the verigated stuff (which I had).

Good luck, Lena!

Yep. Mine is non-variegated kind. The areas where I applied roundup consistently every 5-6 days or so, last fall I actually did manage to kill it. But over large areas it is really hard to apply it without missing some parts. So i have been doing a combination of roundup and digging. I hate roundup.

So I went to view an apartment this morning. I pull up, and it is this older (50s) woman. First thing she does is hand me a picture of Lafayette, and start spraying about how much she loves colonial williamsburg. We go by her truck, which is plastered with Romney stickers and anti-obama stickers, and into the garage which has Bush Cheney yard signs against the wall. She keeps talking about how she is trying to model the place after Williamsburg, and even ordered paints based off of the colonial recipes. My kookdetector is pegged at this point, and we went into the place which reeked of old lady and yankee candle. After repeatedly calling her tenants her kids and telling about how she's in the middle of evicting a family with children, while simultaneously complaining about how the rain has slowed her renovations, I finally managed to bail.

The old doc would have called her a fascist and bailed immediately. I must be getting soft.

The good news is that we found another place that is owned by climbers, has plenty of gardening space and a climbing wall. Probably going to move there.

So I went to view an apartment this morning. I pull up, and it is this older (50s) woman. First thing she does is hand me a picture of Lafayette, and start spraying about how much she loves colonial williamsburg. We go by her truck, which is plastered with Romney stickers and anti-obama stickers, and into the garage which has Bush Cheney yard signs against the wall. She keeps talking about how she is trying to model the place after Williamsburg, and even ordered paints based off of the colonial recipes. My kookdetector is pegged at this point, and we went into the place which reeked of old lady and yankee candle. After repeatedly calling her tenants her kids and telling about how she's in the middle of evicting a family with children, while simultaneously complaining about how the rain has slowed her renovations, I finally managed to bail.

The old doc would have called her a fascist and bailed immediately. I must be getting soft.

The good news is that we found another place that is owned by climbers, has plenty of gardening space and a climbing wall. Probably going to move there.

the older doc would have loved her.

Bowchickabowwow

I did not know Blackwater Fascist Doc was into the older racist wimminz. I know she's too young for the doc of a couple years ago.

Planted tomatoes, onions, and peppers today. I got a bunch of russian heirloom varieties for their cold resistance. (In mother russia, Tomato plants you!) Waterwalls are a pain in the balls to fill. My end goal is to be able to make a kickass chili from our community plot, and I put in 4 jalapeno plants, 2 anaheims, a "salsa pepper" of dubious origins, and bell peppers. Should have enough onions and garlic to bludgeon a cat when I am done.

Tomorrow I'm going to attempt to plant a 10x15' three sisters garden. I've got a shitload of squash seeds, and some other heirloom corn and beans. We're probably going to move to a place a bit out of town that has also offered us garden space. Prepare for the vegetapocalypse!

Planted tomatoes, onions, and peppers today. I got a bunch of russian heirloom varieties for their cold resistance. (In mother russia, Tomato plants you!) Waterwalls are a pain in the balls to fill. My end goal is to be able to make a kickass chili from our community plot, and I put in 4 jalapeno plants, 2 anaheims, a "salsa pepper" of dubious origins, and bell peppers. Should have enough onions and garlic to bludgeon a cat when I am done.

Tomorrow I'm going to attempt to plant a 10x15' three sisters garden. I've got a shitload of squash seeds, and some other heirloom corn and beans. We're probably going to move to a place a bit out of town that has also offered us garden space. Prepare for the vegetapocalypse!

Awesome! Did you get Black Krym tomatoes? (that's one of the heirloom Russian varieties I have seen around here)

It's been really chilly and wet here the last few days, definitely not garden-planting time yet. I am jealous! (and baking break in the meantime)

So Nathan just ripped through the neighbour's roses that are between our two houses with the sheers. I'm really fucking pissed right now, he took out a pile of the buds about the bloom and in past experience roses cut back like that just go crazy with foliage. I've been pruning the old canes out of them for the last few years to try to get something that looks like a presentable hedge, but apparently he didn't care for it.

Those of you who have never had to deal with a rose hedge probably don't understand how painful an experience it is to work with. The fucker doesn't even care that I'm upset. Asshole.

Planted tomatoes, onions, and peppers today. I got a bunch of russian heirloom varieties for their cold resistance. (In mother russia, Tomato plants you!) Waterwalls are a pain in the balls to fill. My end goal is to be able to make a kickass chili from our community plot, and I put in 4 jalapeno plants, 2 anaheims, a "salsa pepper" of dubious origins, and bell peppers. Should have enough onions and garlic to bludgeon a cat when I am done.

Tomorrow I'm going to attempt to plant a 10x15' three sisters garden. I've got a shitload of squash seeds, and some other heirloom corn and beans. We're probably going to move to a place a bit out of town that has also offered us garden space. Prepare for the vegetapocalypse!

Awesome! Did you get Black Krym tomatoes? (that's one of the heirloom Russian varieties I have seen around here)

It's been really chilly and wet here the last few days, definitely not garden-planting time yet. I am jealous! (and baking break in the meantime)

No black kryms. I got some Belii Nalivs, some russian reds, some polar babies(alaska), and some extreme northern with a russian name I can't remember.

So Nathan just ripped through the neighbour's roses that are between our two houses with the sheers. I'm really fucking pissed right now, he took out a pile of the buds about the bloom and in past experience roses cut back like that just go crazy with foliage. I've been pruning the old canes out of them for the last few years to try to get something that looks like a presentable hedge, but apparently he didn't care for it.

Those of you who have never had to deal with a rose hedge probably don't understand how painful an experience it is to work with. The fucker doesn't even care that I'm upset. Asshole.

That is correct. Looks like I'll be doing lots of the granite 5.9 with no actual holds thing. Havne't done it in a while, I expect I will find it frightening.

well, that is sad to hear. Crest Jewel, or going to somewhere else?

got a new high point on the drive-by. two bolts closer to the end. unfortunately, there are some pretty tough moves that come right after where I took my hang, gonna be a bitch to get through that clean to the undercling "rest".

So Nathan just ripped through the neighbour's roses that are between our two houses with the sheers. I'm really fucking pissed right now, he took out a pile of the buds about the bloom and in past experience roses cut back like that just go crazy with foliage. I've been pruning the old canes out of them for the last few years to try to get something that looks like a presentable hedge, but apparently he didn't care for it.

Those of you who have never had to deal with a rose hedge probably don't understand how painful an experience it is to work with. The fucker doesn't even care that I'm upset. Asshole.

So Nathan just ripped through the neighbour's roses that are between our two houses with the sheers. I'm really fucking pissed right now, he took out a pile of the buds about the bloom and in past experience roses cut back like that just go crazy with foliage. I've been pruning the old canes out of them for the last few years to try to get something that looks like a presentable hedge, but apparently he didn't care for it.

Those of you who have never had to deal with a rose hedge probably don't understand how painful an experience it is to work with. The fucker doesn't even care that I'm upset. Asshole.