thats because the hip hopers havent mooved to ableton live yet.. and in general ther is more money in hip hop because normal people buy that stuff while hosue techno is only bought by dj´s.. so how many dj´s you have within 100 people? 20? 30? ..ok.. thats the berlin figure,.

in the rest of th eworl its 1 or 2,.. or less

more money for the production => better sound

and in the low end.. slower speeds make a better lowend ..

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Originally Posted by msl

Can't be bothered reading all the posts, got half way though, sorry.

To the op, loads of hi-quality mixing and production around, you just gotta know the right ones.

I also don't like the modern 'pop' sound, all mid range and too damn loud.

I do love lots of hip-hop production though, Dre, Wu Tang, etc.

I like things deep, especially bass.

Look in the end of the day we all different in what we like......
In terms of sonics, width and depth!

I absolutley mean to not offend the house and techno headz by my thread.
I love House Music, and respect it and push the genre hard!!

Sure we cannot compare house to pop or rock or hip hop.

Like I said before It is very hard to say what I mean and feel via the Internot!
This guy as an engineer I do like, be it he is doing a band I dont like very much!

Checked out those tracks. They all sounded horrible to my ears, particularly the Nicky Romero and the Knife Party tracks. Horrible mid-rangy distorted sounds, no warmth or anything ear-pleasing anywhere. If they played stuff like this at clubs I'd leave immediately, there's no way I'm listening to stuff like that loud on a decent PA, it'd destroy my ears.

This is what I prefer my house to sound like. Sounds great in clubs. And home too, of course.

See, in contrast I found that absolutely terrible, monotone, and easily replicated. The same straight flat drum loop repeats through the whole thing with little else going on and a chord stab repeated in the most uninteresting way. This sounds like 90s house.

People got different tastes I suppose... I personally can't stand that distorted mid-range lead that's so prevalent in dubstep and electrohouse right now. It's probably the ugliest sound I've ever come across. It literally hurts my ears.

I'd like to see you replicate a track like those though. Loopy, minimal house is EXTREMELY hard to get right, because the loop has to be so perfect. It sounds easy, but it isn't.

@barfunkel - I have a feeling that first track was made by someone who didn't have a very notable music career. The second one is entirely different and I know well the type of crowd and venues it caters to and the market for it. It's successful for what it is, to the crowd it's meant to appeal to. Ultimately that's what matters. Skrillex isn't targetting deep house fans, John Digweed isn't targetting the D&B crowd, and Katy Perry isn't making music for headbangers. Part of being successful in this industry is being aware and in touch with the world around you.

That is no doubt ridiculous. Presets have been in use as long as they've existed. Not every person with a good musical vision is a great sound designer. In the same token, the ability of a violinist to put on a good concert does not rely being able to build a violin.

Ultimately it's one person and one person only who is at fault if you're not able to find good tracks. Hint: he's the guy who greets you in the mirror when you brush your teeth.

It's made by Blaze. 6 albums, 72 singles, 278 remixes according to Discogs. And that's just under the alias Blaze, if you include his other aliases and projects the numbers something like double.

Huh? Black Rascals is Blaze? I used to have Blaze - Lovely Dae on vinyl in the 90s and played it out a few times. I remember it well. That Black Rascals track sounded terrible though. Let's be honest, if I posted that in the work-in-progress forum asking for feedback it wouldn't be pretty.

edit: I see that Black Rascals is Blaze without Herbert. Any way.. MUCH better: