That's what I meant about the GOP prioritizing political goals over policy goals. I am certain that there was a time when the Democratic Party did the exact same thing, but right now, the Republicans are not about governing at all, but power for power's sake.

I'm afraid that it is going to get a whole lot worse before it gets any better. In terms of government policy, what I want personally is a vigorous competition between solutions from the two parties where there is room for independent voices and the best ideas win out in compromise. What I see now though is a Democratic Party that does its best to hold a coalition together by covering all of the bases liberal and conservative (poorly) and a Republican Party that is unserious at best about doing anything that might just turn off a bunch of idiots on Social Security and Medicare who complain about creeping socialism.

Edit: I know that last bit seems harsh, but these are the kinds of caricatures that are the life blood of our politics today. Everyone here and everyone I know is caught in the middle of this mess.

what I want personally is a vigorous competition between solutions from the two parties where there is room for independent voices and the best ideas win out in compromise.

Cough cough.. hack hack...wheeze. Pop!

I almost fainted... from laughter.

I think you're describing a Democracy.

I don't think it is a democracy - it is a dumb arse 2 party system that we have.After all , all they do is agree to disagree between the Dems and GOP based solely upon party mantra.

I think dogma is the word you want.

Actually, most dems are trying to work like a democracy. The republicans have adopted the idea that they want the "democracy" that Saddam had in Iraq. Remember, "You're either with us, or against us?" They believe that they are the only rightful rulers of the USA. They are always right and everyone else is always wrong in their mindset.

I don't think it is a democracy - it is a dumb arse 2 party system that we have.After all , all they do is agree to disagree between the Dems and GOP based solely upon party mantra.

The U.S. isn't a democracy.. it's a Republic.Remember..."and to the republic for which it stands"

We are a Democracy only in an ill-defined way that is a far cry from the wishes of the Framers of the Constitution and this is the problem with ahhhh....forget it... I'm not going to get drawn into another head -slamming-against-the-wall debate with you. They are pointless.

Like Dave said in his post the GOP Party just bitches constantly and does nothing important to try to establish some kind of plan they have at all. There is no one decent running so far in 2012 I see.

I agree.

Originally Posted By: jerryfox3

I am curious to see what will transpire in the fall.

Yeas, i wonder if Obama will need a primary. He already said he's running again. Maybe he'll need at least one challenger to keep his name and candidacy visible while the Republicans fight it out in theirs [primary, i mean].

I'm still struggling with a few of his policies... for example 'all military trials at Guantanamo must stop but can carry on' and 'Israel must stop occupying Palestinian land but can carry on occupying it' - they're a bit confusing.

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