Shock2k wrote:Hogster, wait a minute did we play already? I must have missed that. There is nothing to prove. Not because of history, because there is no precedence for this Seahawks team right now, so no way to compare them to anything.

The game will settle this debate for sure. And, no I'm not relying on the past. That's the Cowboys fan base. What I'm saying is that you can't ignore the fact that your team--in this season--with these players, has looked like a totally different team than the one that has gone 8-0 at home.

That's relavant because this game is on the East Coast. It's not just the fans, it's the travel, time difference, climate etc. Just like if this game were in Seattle, your prior 8 wins wouldn't matter, but it would be relevant to what impact your crowd or sound guy or stadium has on games/

I will definately take the loss against the Dolphins, we spent 6 minutes driving down the field and left Miami 1:40 to drive down and kick a field goal. The other 4 road losses were all pre-full Offense.

By the way, you shouldn't think this is some epiphany that only Redskins fans know about. Personally I've suffered through 30 years of bad road teams. Here's the rub though, this is the first team that doesn't worry me on the road. It's litterally a Seahawks team I've never seen before. I know you guys see this as overconfidence, but you misunderstand, Shanahan is a smart coach, I'm sure he's going to put together a good game plan. That along with a lot of "on the field" factors will come into play to determine the end result.

But don't hang your hopes on the old "Seahawks are bad on the road." For this game it's good we lost those 5 games, as it may mean the Redskins may just sleep on the Seahawks a little.

As somebody who had RGIII, Pierre Garcon, and Missed Alfred Morris by $1 fantasty trade dollar, I know how good your team is. I know how amazing RGIII is. So don't think I have some "haze" about this game. I'm pretty crystal clear.

Decimation wrote:Nobody is laughing. Only YOU delusional redskin fans are. You bring up the road woes that we've had in the past.. but to be honest, what has your team amounted to in the past twenty years? Oh that's right, NOTHING.

We have the best fans in the NFL. I guarantee you won't see more than a handful of Seahawks fans in our stadium. And, if you're going to talk about history & relevance, try winning something first. Your team has been chained up in the dungeon of struggle since your franchise was born. Your team switched from the AFC to the NFC and nobody noticed or cared. If your losing tradition continues, you'll be in the Pac 10 looking for a BCS bid.

Decimation wrote:Nobody is laughing. Only YOU delusional redskin fans are. You bring up the road woes that we've had in the past.. but to be honest, what has your team amounted to in the past twenty years? Oh that's right, NOTHING.

We have the best fans in the NFL. I guarantee you won't see more than a handful of Seahawks fans in our stadium. And, if you're going to talk about history & relevance, try winning something first. Your team has been chained up in the dungeon of struggle since your franchise was born. Your team switched from the AFC to the NFC and nobody noticed or cared. If your losing tradition continues, you'll be in the Pac 10 looking for a BCS bid.

Well at least this team could win a BCS Championship.................

If nobody cared about the Seahawks why do we still hear people crying about Tates catch against Green Bay ?

Only Redskins fans can take pride in being called Swine, were fixin on having a bar b que after the game, I'm sure there will be plenty of meat for cooking after this game, were all fans of Pork Ribs.

To Be P/C or Not P/C That is the Question..........Seahawks kick Ass !!!! Check your PM's, Thank you for everything Radish RIP My Friend. Member of the 38 club.

The Hogster wrote:Trust me, we know. We hear all of the experts picking you guys. And, we hear the trash your players are talking. And, it's irritating because your team simply isn't impressive on the road. It's not a prayer, it's a fact.

You all should take it as a compliment. Your home advantage is probably the biggest in the league. But, the fact remains that the same team that can beat SF 42-13, got beaten by the Dolphins.

It's as if the "experts" heard: Seattle vs Washington in Washington and thought that meant Washington state.

Or maybe they just realized you aren't very good at defending your home field. Whether it's due to fans that don't make much noise, or a team the "experts" just think is kinda fluky, your three loss home record makes it seem like FedEx is a great place for us to go to pick up a road playoff win.

By the way, that's a nice trophy Griffin is holding in your avatar. Is it made out of papier mache?

Decimation wrote:Nobody is laughing. Only YOU delusional redskin fans are. You bring up the road woes that we've had in the past.. but to be honest, what has your team amounted to in the past twenty years? Oh that's right, NOTHING.

We have the best fans in the NFL. I guarantee you won't see more than a handful of Seahawks fans in our stadium. And, if you're going to talk about history & relevance, try winning something first. Your team has been chained up in the dungeon of struggle since your franchise was born. Your team switched from the AFC to the NFC and nobody noticed or cared. If your losing tradition continues, you'll be in the Pac 10 looking for a BCS bid.

And yet here you are, on this board, telling us how little you care about us. So we are relevant to you, the Hogster, and isn't that all that really matters?I hope we win the Lombardi and still remain irrelevant. I like people wondering who that team was that just kicked their team's ass.

The Hogster wrote:I keep hearing Seahawks fans get annoyed when people say that your stadium is a mystical place where noise seems trapped in the matrix. You say you're a good team, better team etc. Yet good teams aren't so schizophrenic. 8-0 at home. 3-5 on the road.

No road playoff win in 29 Years.

29 Years Ago,

Regan was PresidentJim Zorn was your QBMichael Jackson's Thriller had just come outE.T. was in theaters.

That's a long time to not be able to win a playoff game on the road.

You think any of the players on the Seahawks care about that? Quick, someone tell them they aren't supposed to win on the road! What a joke.

It is a joke. And, the rest of the league is laughing.

You know what the real joke is? That a Seahawks fan would have been banned for saying any one of the things you have here (except from the Seahawks side) on extremeskins. Talk about thin skinned in denial fans.

Decimation wrote:Nobody is laughing. Only YOU delusional redskin fans are. You bring up the road woes that we've had in the past.. but to be honest, what has your team amounted to in the past twenty years? Oh that's right, NOTHING.

We have the best fans in the NFL. I guarantee you won't see more than a handful of Seahawks fans in our stadium. And, if you're going to talk about history & relevance, try winning something first. Your team has been chained up in the dungeon of struggle since your franchise was born. Your team switched from the AFC to the NFC and nobody noticed or cared. If your losing tradition continues, you'll be in the Pac 10 looking for a BCS bid.

Best fans in the NFL that didn't jump on the wagon until the end of the year, barely at that. 86.9% of full attendance isn't that good buddy.

Decimation wrote:Nobody is laughing. Only YOU delusional redskin fans are. You bring up the road woes that we've had in the past.. but to be honest, what has your team amounted to in the past twenty years? Oh that's right, NOTHING.

We have the best fans in the NFL. I guarantee you won't see more than a handful of Seahawks fans in our stadium. And, if you're going to talk about history & relevance, try winning something first. Your team has been chained up in the dungeon of struggle since your franchise was born. Your team switched from the AFC to the NFC and nobody noticed or cared. If your losing tradition continues, you'll be in the Pac 10 looking for a BCS bid.

Best fans in the NFL that didn't jump on the wagon until the end of the year, barely at that. 86.9% of full attendance isn't that good buddy.

You have no clue what you're talking about. I've been a fan since 1980.

Decimation wrote:Nobody is laughing. Only YOU delusional redskin fans are. You bring up the road woes that we've had in the past.. but to be honest, what has your team amounted to in the past twenty years? Oh that's right, NOTHING.

We have the best fans in the NFL. I guarantee you won't see more than a handful of Seahawks fans in our stadium. And, if you're going to talk about history & relevance, try winning something first. Your team has been chained up in the dungeon of struggle since your franchise was born. Your team switched from the AFC to the NFC and nobody noticed or cared. If your losing tradition continues, you'll be in the Pac 10 looking for a BCS bid.

Best fans in the NFL that didn't jump on the wagon until the end of the year, barely at that. 86.9% of full attendance isn't that good buddy.

The Redskins have a consecutive sellout streak that dates back to 1966, including preseason games and are in the top 10 in highest ticket prices. They are currently the 3rd highest valued team in all of sports worldwide according to Forbes. They have the largest seating capacity in the NFL. The Seahawks are 21st in stadium capacity. The Seahawks are also 20th in average tickets and could not sellout Husky stadium prior to Qwest opening to avoid several tv blackouts with the extra 5,000 seats in that stadium.

Redskins fans support the team in good and bad times and sellout the stadium regardless of the quality of the team. That is not the case with the Seahawks. Seattle sports fans only support winners. That is also why the Super Sonics now play in Oklahoma. It would be hard to find a fan base with more bandwagon fans in the NFL. To your credit, you do generate a lot of noise at the stadium in the years you decide to show up.

The Hogster wrote:We have the best fans in the NFL. I guarantee you won't see more than a handful of Seahawks fans in our stadium. And, if you're going to talk about history & relevance, try winning something first. Your team has been chained up in the dungeon of struggle since your franchise was born. Your team switched from the AFC to the NFC and nobody noticed or cared. If your losing tradition continues, you'll be in the Pac 10 looking for a BCS bid.

Best fans in the NFL that didn't jump on the wagon until the end of the year, barely at that. 86.9% of full attendance isn't that good buddy.

The Redskins have a consecutive sellout streak that dates back to 1966, including preseason games and are in the top 10 in highest ticket prices. They are currently the 3rd highest valued team in all of sports worldwide according to Forbes. They have the largest seating capacity in the NFL. The Seahawks are 21st in stadium capacity. The Seahawks are also 20th in average tickets and could not sellout Husky stadium prior to Qwest opening to avoid several tv blackouts with the extra 5,000 seats in that stadium.

Redskins fans support the team in good and bad times and sellout the stadium regardless of the quality of the team. That is not the case with the Seahawks. Seattle sports fans only support winners. That is also why the Super Sonics now play in Oklahoma. It would be hard to find a fan base with more bandwagon fans in the NFL. To your credit, you do generate a lot of noise at the stadium in the years you decide to show up.

What the hell do you know about the Sonics? We're the ones who stand up for what's right and stick it to the owner when he acts like a petulant child. While you, on the other hand, go and pay $25 for preseason parking and don't give a damn that your owner sues Grandmas.

Actually, Clay Bennett stole the team. You have no clue about the situation and you're being extraordinarily ignorant and have no idea what you're talking about. If you're going to post such nonsense, then take it to the shack. A LOT of Seattle sports fans would LOVE to have the Sonics come home in a new arena, idiot.

That's why Redskins fans are the best in sports or at least the most loyal. Unconditional love for the team. Principles and stands take a backseat to supporting the team. $25 parking even for preseason is a deal at FedEx.

la_nfl_fan wrote:That's why Redskins fans are the best in sports or at least the most loyal. Unconditional love for the team. Principles and stands take a backseat to supporting the team. $25 parking even for preseason is a deal at FedEx.

And yet their attendance is way under 100%...something is not adding up.

la_nfl_fan wrote:That's why Redskins fans are the best in sports or at least the most loyal. Unconditional love for the team. Principles and stands take a backseat to supporting the team. $25 parking even for preseason is a deal at FedEx.

Saying you guys have the best fans in sports is like saying the Cowboys, Steelers, and the 49ers have the best fans in sports.

la_nfl_fan wrote:That's why Redskins fans are the best in sports or at least the most loyal. Unconditional love for the team. Principles and stands take a backseat to supporting the team. $25 parking even for preseason is a deal at FedEx.

And yet their attendance is way under 100%...something is not adding up.

They have a sell out streak since 1966. Every seat is sold. The no show rate may fluctuate week to week but with the largest capacity in the NFL it happens.

la_nfl_fan wrote:That's why Redskins fans are the best in sports or at least the most loyal. Unconditional love for the team. Principles and stands take a backseat to supporting the team. $25 parking even for preseason is a deal at FedEx.

Saying you guys have the best fans in sports is like saying the Cowboys, Steelers, and the 49ers have the best fans in sports.

A lot of bandwagons in that list. I would put Redskins fans and Packers as the top two based on year after year of support in good and bad times.

It must be a blast watching Kevin Durant and the Thunder dominate the NBA from Oklahoma City this year.

All eyes on D.C. The real Washington. The capital of this great nation, and a city where people actually prefer their football with beer & wings, not pumpkin spice latte's and biscotti. The 12th man = your sound guy. That's why you're a fraud away from Century Stink Field.

la_nfl_fan wrote:That's why Redskins fans are the best in sports or at least the most loyal. Unconditional love for the team. Principles and stands take a backseat to supporting the team. $25 parking even for preseason is a deal at FedEx.

And yet their attendance is way under 100%...something is not adding up.

The tickets are sold, but the actual attendance varies based on a variety of factors. If you ever lived in a real east coast city, you'd understand. But, whatever. When you live in a big city and your stadium seats almost 100,000 you understand this. I could see how a Seattle fan wouldn't get it.

la_nfl_fan wrote:That's why Redskins fans are the best in sports or at least the most loyal. Unconditional love for the team. Principles and stands take a backseat to supporting the team. $25 parking even for preseason is a deal at FedEx.

And yet their attendance is way under 100%...something is not adding up.

They have a sell out streak since 1966. Every seat is sold. The no show rate may fluctuate week to week but with the That many lame fans in the NFL it happens.

Fixed it for ya.

Seriously, and the no show rate dropped after Schneider got rid of huge block of bad seats. Your team leads the league in tickets given to politicos, lobbyists, and corporate slackies. Which accounts for the library level noise.

Seriously, and the no show rate dropped after Schneider got rid of huge block of bad seats. Your team leads the league in tickets given to politicos, lobbyists, and corporate slackies. Which accounts for the library level noise.

Snyder never gives anything away. Premium seats are not shared revenue with the opposing team. The general admission seats are. Skins have the most premium seats in the NFL because of the demand from lobbyists etc.

There has only been 1 playoff game at FedEx. I was there in 1999. Louder than RFK. With the drought in playoff games, bitterness at being home underdogs and general dislike of the Seahawks based on recent history, the stadium will be rocking tomorrow.

Just dropping in to say I have huge respect for your team and expect only the finest Redskin effort, plus a break or two, will be able to swing the game our way. RW is amazing, Lynch is a true beast and that D is quick and powerful. Should be a fun game and perhaps just the first in a series of playoff matchups between these exciting young QBs. Best of luck to y'all.

We played the equivelent to a play off game last week at home, many of our players have playoff experience, the hardest aspect of a game to pick up is that it ramps up another level, refs tend to let guys play more. Fletcher and Moss can help a lot but until they start playing you can't understand it by hearing players interview after their first game. In short many of our young guys know what it's like to play in the playoffs, Redskins will have to pick up on the fly.

I think Seattle has this advantage and having played the knock the snot out of you style all season may be more comfortable starting out.

To Be P/C or Not P/C That is the Question..........Seahawks kick Ass !!!! Check your PM's, Thank you for everything Radish RIP My Friend. Member of the 38 club.

chris98251 wrote:We played the equivelent to a play off game last week at home, many of our players have playoff experience, the hardest aspect of a game to pick up is that it ramps up another level, refs tend to let guys play more. Fletcher and Moss can help a lot but until they start playing you can't understand it by hearing players interview after their first game. In short many of our young guys know what it's like to play in the playoffs, Redskins will have to pick up on the fly.

I think Seattle has this advantage and having played the knock the snot out of you style all season may be more comfortable starting out.

Not sure I agree with this. The following players on the Redskins have playoff experience.

Ummmm, how long has it been since you skins were a playoff team? Seems to me with all those guys you listed you're team is old. And playoff experience is overrated for us as PC and JS only select and sign players who are not intimidated by a big or bigger stage.

Not Smadk talk? Hawk fans can't take it? Please. Let's reference the thin skinned, totally defensive minded folks at ERTEMESKINS. The stuff we tried to post there isn;t even to the level you are going and WE WERE BANNED, so stop being a hypocrite. This is our board. This is our house. If you want friendly banter. Fine, but dont come into our house with your sliding to sh@t attitude

What's the difference between Politians, MSNBC, Fox News and Reddskin fans? NOTHING. Spin and deflect is all you do.

In 2007, the Redskins had a 5-7 record and looking at missing the playoffs. Your godfather, legendary head coach Gibbs is looking at a pink slip from your bozo owner ...ours has more class in his pinky ....but, oops, I'm pulling an extremeskin move....DIGRESS!

Anywho, the Redskins win 4 straight games and get into the playoffs. Todd Colins throws for 240+ yards, Clinto Portis runs for over 100 yards against the Cowboys in week 17. The fans and players are riding an emotional high.

Sound familar?

2007 playoff game results: Seahawks 31, Redskins 21.

But, in classic DC style, let's deflect. Oh, those Seahawk fans were mean to me. They are the worst fans in the world. Who the fu@k cares.. Again, let's focus what happened on the field.....You lost!!!

And, the Redskin fans were at it prior to the game....we bad. We'll beat the Seachickens...Let me spin up some stats to show you we will beat you. blah, blah....Oh sh@t. We lost...let's not talk about the score....let's cry about the abuse we took at the stadium.

The polictians are not the only ones who are messed in DC.

Cant wait for the game to begin and can't wait for the spin from Redskin fans when they lose. Seems like that's one thing you guys are good at.

truehawksfan wrote:Ok. I've been lurking in this thread and at this point I've had it.

Not Smadk talk? Hawk fans can't take it? Please. Let's reference the thin skinned, totally defensive minded folks at ERTEMESKINS. The stuff we tried to post there isn;t even to the level you are going and WE WERE BANNED, so stop being a hypocrite. This is our board. This is our house. If you want friendly banter. Fine, but dont come into our house with your sliding to sh@t attitude

What's the difference between Politians, MSNBC, Fox News and Reddskin fans? NOTHING. Spin and deflect is all you do.

In 2007, the Redskins had a 5-7 record and looking at missing the playoffs. Your godfather, legendary head coach Gibbs is looking at a pink slip from your bozo owner ...ours has more class in his pinky ....but, oops, I'm pulling an extremeskin move....DIGRESS!

Anywho, the Redskins win 4 straight games and get into the playoffs. Todd Colins throws for 240+ yards, Clinto Portis runs for over 100 yards against the Cowboys in week 17. The fans and players are riding an emotional high.

Sound familar?

2007 playoff game results: Seahawks 31, Redskins 21.

But, in classic DC style, let's deflect. Oh, those Seahawk fans were mean to me. They are the worst fans in the world. Who the fu@k cares.. Again, let's focus what happened on the field.....You lost!!!

And, the Redskin fans were at it prior to the game....we bad. We'll beat the Seachickens...Let me spin up some stats to show you we will beat you. blah, blah....Oh sh@t. We lost...let's not talk about the score....let's cry about the abuse we took at the stadium.

The polictians are not the only ones who are messed in DC.

Cant wait for the game to begin and can't wait for the spin from Redskin fans when they lose. Seems like that's one thing you guys are good at.

Enough!

You lost me at ExtremeSkins. I didn't even read the rest of your speech. FYI - the true Skins fans are members of other sites like http://www.thehogs.net

Harperville wrote:I'm glad our moderators aren't so girly that they ban you even though it's clear you're just trolling. I'd like to see if you come back once your team loses.

Sensitive much?? It's not trolling. It's football. It's what men do. Talk trash. What do men in Seattle do for football games ??

Nevermind I don't want to know.

First we are a bunch of thugs then we are sensitive. Talk about being a bunch of over sensitive fans, the "official" Redskin forum has fans with such a thin skin, they almost immediately ban any fan of any other team for really nothing at all. You would have been banned there (if you were a fan of another team) for your first post alone. Yup, that is men being men. I guess men in the DC area hide behind their mommy's aprons while clinging to their skirts.

Harperville wrote:I'm glad our moderators aren't so girly that they ban you even though it's clear you're just trolling. I'd like to see if you come back once your team loses.

Sensitive much?? It's not trolling. It's football. It's what men do. Talk trash. What do men in Seattle do for football games ??

Nevermind I don't want to know.

Hogster, this is the one warning you get to keep the smack in the smack shack and out of the main forum. Frankly I should have already given you one. Head to the shack where the rest of your buddies are hanging out.