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Antiques, Art and Collectibles - What's it Worth? | WorthPointMon, 25 Jul 2016 05:28:49 +0000hourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.6.1By: icetrouthttp://www.worthpoint.com/blog-entry/ivory-ban-prove-problematic-executors-dealers-collectors/comment-page-1#comment-674008
Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:23:57 +0000http://www.worthpoint.com/?p=2518728#comment-674008ivory ban dose nothing to stop root cause of the “6th Extinction” HUMAN OVERPOPULATION…
]]>By: kiff!http://www.worthpoint.com/blog-entry/ivory-ban-prove-problematic-executors-dealers-collectors/comment-page-1#comment-22394
Thu, 20 Mar 2014 22:31:35 +0000http://www.worthpoint.com/?p=2518728#comment-22394Fossilization implies that the organic material has been replaced by mineral matter, as you previously stated with a petrified tree. There is no actual wood left in a full-petrified tree, the wood having been replaced by quartz or other silicate, via perminerialization. Mammoth ivory is simply old, well-preserved tusk material that retains its original, organic matter.
]]>By: Wayne Jordanhttp://www.worthpoint.com/blog-entry/ivory-ban-prove-problematic-executors-dealers-collectors/comment-page-1#comment-22393
Tue, 18 Mar 2014 15:07:51 +0000http://www.worthpoint.com/?p=2518728#comment-22393You’re right about enforcement being a problem, Rick. I agree that the severity of the problem called for action, and this ban certainly sent a strong message. I admire your willingness to put principle over profit and remove the ivory from your shop.
]]>By: Rick Bevilacquahttp://www.worthpoint.com/blog-entry/ivory-ban-prove-problematic-executors-dealers-collectors/comment-page-1#comment-22392
Mon, 17 Mar 2014 19:38:08 +0000http://www.worthpoint.com/?p=2518728#comment-22392I think it’s about time that a more strict approach was taken. With all the news, articles, pleas etc, US auction houses are still loaded with obviously new ivory, no questions asked. It still comes down to making a quick buck, no matter who suffers from it. I think pushing the ban to older items and musical instruments is ridiculous and unenforceable, but I think putting that fear out there may eventually do some good. ( Wouldn’t it be easier to audit the instrument makers rather than chase after individual instruments??) I’m just glad something has been done, even if it appears over the top. Modifications can be made over time so that enforcement becomes more practical. I sell ivory in my shop, but will cease immediately. I own 19thC ivory that I will keep and enjoy. That’s why I bought it, not as an investment. For those who did buy as an investment, it’s like any stock market pick – no guarantee it’s going to go up in value. Company’s go bankrupt everyday and their stock becomes worthless. And I really feel sorry for anyone who can’t afford to go to Africa to shoot an elephant. I guess that’s why there will never be peace on earth – human’s just have to kill something. Sorry for going off topic there.
]]>By: Susan Busahttp://www.worthpoint.com/blog-entry/ivory-ban-prove-problematic-executors-dealers-collectors/comment-page-1#comment-22391
Wed, 12 Mar 2014 02:36:59 +0000http://www.worthpoint.com/?p=2518728#comment-22391I recently saw something on 60 Minutes about ivory in China. They are the ones that are causing all the slaughter, but it was stated that 70% of the Chinese population doesn’t know where it comes from! I think the Chinese government needs to educate their consumers before all these creatures are gone. Something that is not taking place at the moment.

As for obvious antiques, anyone in the business can tell what is and what is not. Just walking a field in Brimfield last fall I saw a guy trying to sell one of two statues he had to an Asian women. They were NOT antiques. But as for the those that are, should this history also be wiped out as if it never happened? What about the talent of our ancestors (from whatever country)? It was the material available at the time, and used by many talented artists. Shouldn’t that be preserved? I would hope that those on this side of the fence would put up a fight in the courts for common sense to prevail.

Certainly the Orient is the greatest offender of the trade. The crackdown should concentrate there on three fronts: the procurement, the production, and the export of the new ivory.

However, there are objects that are of unquestionable age and their ban is absolutely ludicrous; e.g., the rule and scientific instrument trades that used ivory up until ca. World War I.

To name a few notable companies, Stanley in the US and Negretti&Zambra in the UK produced all sorts of ivory rules, and all of its manufacture can be traced to a time long ago. Over time, their production of ivory products decreased significantly perhaps due to the difficulty of obtaining ivory or due to a public that no longer wanted such items. Both firms ultimately dropped that material from their production during the 1920’s.

There is no good reason at all to ban such items, produced by manufacturers with detailed histories as it’s known exactly when they stopped the use of ivory.

What good does it do for these items to be seized and destroyed other than to produce a temporary sense of ‘feel goodism’?

re: your children to see elephants in the wild, no argument there.

But, do you lament the fact that your children can’t see saber tooth tigers here in North America? There are more species extinct than there are alive now, and how many of those do you miss?

]]>By: Wayne Jordanhttp://www.worthpoint.com/blog-entry/ivory-ban-prove-problematic-executors-dealers-collectors/comment-page-1#comment-22387
Fri, 21 Feb 2014 19:25:17 +0000http://www.worthpoint.com/?p=2518728#comment-22387I agree, Maggie. I wouldn’t want to appraise any ivory, either. The ban will also make it more difficult to appraise ivory-trimmed musical instruments and paraphernalia. I’ll be watching vintage guitar dealers to see how they handle this.
]]>By: Ross L Younghttp://www.worthpoint.com/blog-entry/ivory-ban-prove-problematic-executors-dealers-collectors/comment-page-1#comment-22386
Fri, 21 Feb 2014 18:14:09 +0000http://www.worthpoint.com/?p=2518728#comment-22386The Federal Government under the guise of the Department of Fish and Game
has once again took away and eroded are individual freedoms.
This act is both ludicrous and hypocritical as this banning of elephant is not evenly enforced and the exceptions give are to the rich hunter as stated in National Strategy for Combating Wildlife Trafficking.

Support Limited Sport-hunting of African Elephants: We will limit the number of African elephant sport-hunted trophies that an individual can import to two per hunter per year.
What this means in my opinion is that if I am wealthy enough to go the Africa, This individual can kill two Elephants a year and bring there tusks back.
Where as I being a person with more limited funds can’t own a ivory tea pot unless I can somehow prove it’s antiquity.
This is wrong and Very Socialistic.