Now that the validators are running again I thought this would be worth another mention.

With the new installer you will] see many more inconclusive results. This is okay because the new app is a lot more accurate than either stock or older opt-apps. Because of this you will give a result that is probably only weakly similar to those other results. They will validate, you just have to wait for an extra wingman to report.

I thought I would put this here in a new thread so we wouldn't clutter up the 0.38 problem threads since this is really not a problem.
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Now that the validators are running again I thought this would be worth another mention.

With the new installer you will] see many more inconclusive results. This is okay because the new app is a lot more accurate than either stock or older opt-apps. Because of this you will give a result that is probably only weakly similar to those other results. They will validate, you just have to wait for an extra wingman to report.

I thought I would put this here in a new thread so we wouldn't clutter up the 0.38 problem threads since this is really not a problem.

Don't mix Windows Installer V0.38 with x38g_cuda32 app.. ;-)

AFAIK, only the new x38g_cuda32 app is now more accurate..

If this new CUDA app is now the wingman of the opt. CPU apps of V0.38 installer & stock CPU apps (and all other stock/opt. CUDA apps out there) it could happen that a 3rd result is needed ((and all 3 results get the Cr.) except, of course, an error happened during calculation).

No Helli, it means that you will have to wait for another wingman to complete before you get credit.

I should also mention this inconclusive doesn't happen on all tasks just a lot more than we were seeing before. Many do validate on the first try. Again, so long as there is no problem with your rig and you have been turning in good results, you will get your credit. It's just that the new App is giving a bit different result from the other apps. Not enough to cause it to not validate, just enough to cause it to give an inconclusive.

Sorry Sutaru, it's early here and I've been thinking about this all night. I'm sure everyone will get the idea though.
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So far, on all mine that have validated with extra wingmen, all three (or four) have received credit except of course for those that would not have validated anyway. Like people running the old V12 app on Fermi cards or just plain bad results. The new app is not that far off from the others, just enough to cause another look at it.

I was teamed with Jason G in a situation like you describe. It took four results before it validated but all four got credit.
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Probally happen as often as you get stuck with a wingman running a V 12 ap with a fermi card, and then it gets sent to another wingman running a fermi card and v12 to. It validates. And you get squat. Until things get sorted out, It could happen.
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Old James

Yes, i don't say we will see this rare Situation often. But could this
Situation happen?

Helli

Hi Helli,
While theoretically possible, I have only seen so far legacy clients 'gang-up' on the new boy in a couple of (rare) cases, resulting in no credit:
- stock GPU's that get '-12's' while we process fine finding nice looking triplets. The server gets 'too many errors' and throws out the task with 'Can't validate', granting no-one credit.
- Some spikes or other low level signals possibly in a noisy workunit, sometimes with -9 overflow results where the wingmen were running CPU apps. That possibility actually applies to legacy Cuda apps anyway, is actually a precision issue in the CPU apps, and usually results in all three getting credit anyway, usually (but not always) uses hardly any runtime, and is addressed in coming V7 spike & autocorrelation CPU app code.

HTH,
Jason
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"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change."
Charles Darwin

Well, I finally got mine uploaded and reported. Still no errors but still getting a bunch of inconclusives. I figure out of a couple of hundred reported I was about half and half as to valids and to pendings. Those that went to pending had a whole bunch of inconclusives. Hope the next guys are fast.

doncha just love these exact figures? I'm too lazy to try to count them all up. This new app is fast!! :-)
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Quick question, what does " Legacy setiathome_enhanced V6 mode." mean? Or does it mean anything?

It means that the application detected that the task is a 'normal' seti@home enhanced mutlibeam version 6 task, rather than the upcoming V7 variety which involves extra searches using autocorrelations for looking for periodic patterns in the data.
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"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent that survives. It is the one that is the most adaptable to change."
Charles Darwin