Half-elves are listed under Dilettante as being able to choose an at-will power from a class different than the characters. Does that include, say, At-Will prayers such as the paladin's Holy Strike?

I'm pretty sure that's the one WotC recommends that the Half-Elf pregen cleric from Keep on the Shadowfell take (as they forgot to add it). Hmmm, it wasn't Holy Strike it was Bolstering Strike (don't have my books handy so can't comment on Holy Strike). From the FAQ:

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4. Why doesn't the half-elf cleric have another class's at-will power as an encounter power?

The power was removed for space, if you would like to include one, we recommend Bolstering Strike.

Edit: Ok - I looked up Holy Strike. You could take it, but since a cleric can't mark then you wouldn't get as much benefit from Holy Strike as Bolstering Strike.

Half-elves are listed under Dilettante as being able to choose an at-will power from a class different than the characters. Does that include, say, At-Will prayers such as the paladin's Holy Strike?

I'm pretty sure that's the one WotC recommends that the Half-Elf pregen cleric from Keep on the Shadowfell take (as they forgot to add it). Hmmm, it wasn't Holy Strike it was Bolstering Strike (don't have my books handy so can't comment on Holy Strike). From the FAQ:

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4. Why doesn't the half-elf cleric have another class's at-will power as an encounter power?

The power was removed for space, if you would like to include one, we recommend Bolstering Strike.

Edit: Ok - I looked up Holy Strike. You could take it, but since a cleric can't mark then you wouldn't get as much benefit from Holy Strike as Bolstering Strike.

Actually, I'm a fighter.

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Half-elves are listed under Dilettante as being able to choose an at-will power from a class different than the characters. Does that include, say, At-Will prayers such as the paladin's Holy Strike?

I'm pretty sure that's the one WotC recommends that the Half-Elf pregen cleric from Keep on the Shadowfell take (as they forgot to add it). Hmmm, it wasn't Holy Strike it was Bolstering Strike (don't have my books handy so can't comment on Holy Strike). From the FAQ:

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4. Why doesn't the half-elf cleric have another class's at-will power as an encounter power?

The power was removed for space, if you would like to include one, we recommend Bolstering Strike.

Edit: Ok - I looked up Holy Strike. You could take it, but since a cleric can't mark then you wouldn't get as much benefit from Holy Strike as Bolstering Strike.

Actually, I'm a fighter.

Oh, sorry, I thought you were making the cleric, sorry. I guess it would work, I'm not sure it's intended to work on other types of marks (I don't think I'd allow it - just the way I envision the powers working, but with the way it's written it's legal and it's not like a fighter would have a huge WIS bonus)

I'd like to make a suggestion. You took Holy Strike, but since your Wisdom modifier is 0, it's not actually doing anything. Your Charisma is high so Enfeebling Strike would give you a benefit, or, since defenders are supposed to be surrounded by attackers, Valiant Strike. Also, my experience is a defender will be taking a lot of damage and since you're wearing heavy armor you might want to switch your Con and Dex around so you end up with 16 Con and 12 Dex. Also, as a heavy blade fighter I think you'll be using more Con based powers than Dex. Of course, you might have some roleplaying reasons or other plans for your character that I'm not aware of at this point so feel free to ignore.

Just got home and will look at suggestions soon, but yes, mine was from the for pay site Icebear mentioned. It was the first I found. I like autocalculating because it helps me figure out what is going on at first.

Okay, I'll ask questions and look stupid now and hopefully avoid that for later. On p 92, Paladins, Holy Strike talks about (as many other places do) the [W]. Hit: 1[W] + Strength modifier radiant damage.... What does the W mean?And I'm not sure where Wisdom applies to the Holy Strike. I'm NOT saying it doesn't but I'm not grasping it. I liked the thought of Holy Strike because the Undead really, really annoy me! And my character as well.

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Ok, the [W] is a placeholder for your weapon's damage. So if you were using a longsword you'd replace [W] with 1d8 and if you were using a shortsword you'd replace it with 1d6.

Holy Strike states that it does 1[W] + Str modifier radiant damage. It also states that if you marked the target you do extra damage equal to your Wis bonus (0 in your case). You make a good point about it doing radiant damage and undead are vulnerable to it, but you have to be fighting undead to get the bonus and you can only use it once in a fight for basically basic attack damage.

If you took Valiant Strike then you could use it in any fight whenever you are surrounded and really need to hit something (as you get a bonus to hit the more opponents are next to you).

Enfeebling Strike would do one point of damage less than Holy Strike (it uses Cha mod instead of Str) but then any marked opponent would be at -4 to hit.

You did make a good point about radiant damage and undead, just not sure how often it would come up

Also, I cannot stress enough that as a fighter you should be marking a target every turn. That means they'll be taking a -2 penalty to hit if they attack someone other than you, and you get to make an opportunity attack if they attack someone other than you. This tends to mean that the monsters will be attacking you more (which is good - that's your job) but it also means you'll need more hp (which was why I was suggesting moving Con and Dex around)