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Any lawyers on the thread? It seems that Spanier, Curley & Schultz are "accessories" to the crimes that Sandusky committed. Isn't that the correct term for knowing that a crime is being committed and then "asssiting" by not stopping the crimes and allowing more crimes to be commited?
And for not reporting a crime that you are directly aware of? And that you allowed by allowing the criminal to use your facilities even though they knew that crimes might be commited again?
As such, don't they face the same charges as Sandusky?

I really hate to say it, but Joe Pa would have to be included in the same group since he apparently was aware of the crimes and did not stop them. It sounds like he was even an active part of making the joint decision to not report the crimes to police when they first were aware that they were happening.

I really do hate this whole stinking mess! But yes, I agree that the JoePA legend is tarnished and that the statue should come down. He did many good things for Penn State and the athletes, but you could also say that Sandusky also did many good things for the football team and the school. Doing good things one day does not make you less of a criminal when you do such heinous crimes the next day.

I used the bike lane once and was almost killed. The bike lanes get squeezed out by turn lanes and the cars park further away from the curb than 6". I will only use bike lanes weekend off hours, but with the new bike laws, I may just ride out in the street and legally block traffic - smile.
I have seen the bike lanes being used by motorcycles and people in electric wheelchairs. Is that what they are to be used for?

I wonder if the workers at Giant or Weis Markets get those great union benefits. Amazing that they can survive with tax payer provided lifetime pensions. They work just as hard as the State store employees, and they're not paid to go sample wines and liquors on in a private lounge.
I wonder if those Giant workers could possibly add stocking wine and liquor on the shelves with the other groceries like they do in most of the US.
No, Pennsylvania workers who touch wine bottles need to have union protection.
I think I'll pass on drinking that Kool Aid.

Ask the workers at the former Caterpillar plant in York, or at Carlisle's Masland or Carlisle Tire and Wheel what happens when another state offers tax incentives and a non union work environment to companies that want to build manufacturing plants. All of those jobs are gone and PA doesn't get income tax, property tax or any other benefits.
Tax incentives build factories and create jobs. So yes,Vote Democrat if you want jobs and all of the benefit of having thousands of paid workers work in a state other than PA.

Let's look at this from a different angle- Lottery money. The lottery advertises proudly that lottery profits benefit Senior citizens in PA. But the lottery commission sure has a LOT of very high paid workers and a huge organization that eats up a lot of "overhead" dollars before the funds get to the counties to help fund Senior programs. How about an audit of the Lottery Commision. I'll bet there is a lot more than $100k in waste that could be used to fund more senior programs. BTW, I'm a senior who doesn't get a penny from the county or the Lottery. So they should advertise that they support a very small percentage of programs for Seniors in a very limited demographic region of center city Philadelphia.

How many senior citizens have computers or computer skills to order groceries? And who will put the groceries away for the senior? Look hard at your own 90 year old Grandma and tell me she has the skills to order groceries on line. That is what the grocery service provides. And if spending this amount of money to help them with groceries means they can stay in their own homes, then the cost is worth it. If they have to move to a nursing home, the government will end up paying thousands per month for the nursing home.

I absolutely agree that we need the change in beer sales and that distributors should go the route of buggy whip manufacturers. Smart businessmen/distributor owners would be looking for the new opportunities that the change will bring. Instead they re following the path of the Harrisburg school children and are jumping on the bus to protest.

What academic subject will the Harrisburg District use to identify the time the students were out of class to protest yesterday? Is "Protesting" one of the new academic subjects the Harrisburg District wants to teach or is it consdiered a sport? Was there an alternative class or home room for those students who did not want to protest? I absolutely support FREE Spech, but to load school kids up on the bus and take them someplace and tell them "Children, Today we are going to protest. So Shandra, you hold this sign, and Tynell, you give a speach. If you do your protest chants really good, you'll all get As for the day and we'll stop at Dairy Queen on the way back to school" is not free speech. It is a waste of a LEARNING day in a school district that is already failing. And if the District can't afford buses, then how did the students get to the Capital?? So the Distrcit also increased it's expenses to participate in a mandatory student protest. With that type mentatlity in the School Administration, it is no wonder the District is experiencing both academic and financial failure.

Ericblair,
So you know, Carlisle does have many programs for homeless people including CARES and SHARE. The homeless are allowed to sleep and use facilites inside certain churches each night. Some of the bench people are there awaiting the appointed hour when they are allowed into the churches for the night. Carlisle has many services and shelters for homeless people and as a result, some homeless people from other areas come to Carlisle to take advanatage of those services.
I have lived in Carlisle for over 40 years and the town has spend an immense amount of money and time to improve the appearance and safety of downtown. I understand the situation that some of the bench people are in, but if they are (and they are) abusive to pedestrians on the street, then they need to learn some manners. And they need to appreciate the bounty of good services that Carlisle provides.
I agree that the benches are needed but I believe that vagrancy type laws do need to be enforced. If a person is sleeping on the bench then wake them and take them to one of the shelters.
I do not think that this is "hiding" the problem, but is a way of making certain that the streets are safe for all.

It was no problem at all. I pulled out my Pennsylvania drivers license to show them and then voted.
I had my PA license to carry firearms, my U S Passport, and my Department of Defense ID card also available if needed. I was glad to show them proof of who I am and there I live. I only vote at one precinct and I only vote one time for each election. That is the reason for the law.

Verytrue,
Who left the borough? I've lived in Carlisle 40 years and there are VERY few empty lots left in town to build a house. Empty lots get turned into multi family buildings. The population has gone UP!
SO who has left? Maybe someone who wanted to build a new house and couldn't find a lot in town - so they moved to North Middleton, Middlesex or South Middleton townships and still have a Carlisle address. No - I do not believe that anyone is moving away from Carlisle because of the threat of crime. I am tired of the front page coverage of minor crimes in Carlisle when there are more serious crimes happening in Harrisburg and other places. Could it be that the media wants to take the focus off of Harrisburg's crime? I'll take Carlisle ANY day!

The BOT members will say or do anything to deflect any negative press away from themselves. They do not care about PSU or it's reputation or legacy!
The word "slimeballs" comes to mind when I think of the BOT members.

Convenient poor memory by you Edward T Hunter. The price of gas in November of 2008 (the election - REMEMBER) was $2.07 per gallon (source - Consumer Reports). And what is it today? $3.69 and going up! Go ahead and blame Bush. That is typical of people who voted for change that year.

I would love to see some accounting on how much money the PA Lottery does give "for Senior Citizens" and where the money goes. I know that the county aging offices get some money for seniors but that comes from the state budget. And you have to be eligible for welfare before they can even give you any of that money.
I did not have to be on welfare to buy a lottery ticket so I thinek the money should go to support ALL PA senior citizens!
So how much is given and where does it go? Does anyone know the answers??

Have you ever hear of "Let your Money do the talking?". You can also do that with votes.

Make a statement - Do not donate money to Penn State alumni funds until either the Board resigns or until they make an apology that the Paternos and you can live with.
Contact your State Senators and Representatives and the Governor and tell them that you want the Board replaced. It is a state funded universtity and they are the state. You are the voters who put them in place.
Make your statement for JoePa!

Sounds like Gary E. is now a poster on Pennlive. There is a reason that Gary E. did not get the most votes - he was a proven stuborn, inflexible, authoritarian "I'm in charge " freak. And that is not an "I hear" from unnamed people allegation.
It sure can't get any worse than it was with him in charge. Thank God and Cumberland County voters that he is no longer the Chairperson.

I'lll take Carlisle ANY day over the 'Burg. Yes, there have been a few Carlisle stories that have made the news over the past couple of weeks. But, I can walk in any neighborhood in Carlisle any time of the day or night and I don't need to carry. You will never eliminate the domestic issues in any community. Some just don't make the news.