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Saints 35, Bucs 28

October 21st, 2012

Once a upon a time this season, the Bucs were supposed to be the most physical football team around, a team that would impose its will behind beastly offensive linemen. The New Schiano Order would tolerate nothing less.

That wasn’t the case today.

If you can’t score from 1st-and-goal from the 1 yard line on the Saints, then you deserve to lose. And that’s what happened to the Bucs today, as Tampa Bay blew a 14-point lead and got manhandled often after the first quarter by the suspect Saints defensive line. The 1-4 Saints, now 2-4, outscored the Bucs 35-14 to close out the game on the Tampa turf.

There was some questionable efforts by the Bucs’ offense, and eye-opening Bucs coaching calls on both sides of the ball.

The Bucs took a step backwards today, no matter how close the game was. There’s no way to sugarcoat it.

From the rule book:
A receiver running a downfield pattern can not intentionally go out of bounds and then come back into the field of play to catch the football. If this occurs, the catch will be negated by the official, who will call a penalty for illegal touching. However, if the receiver gets bumped out of bounds by a defender, he can re-establish his field position by getting back into the field of play as quickly as possible. He must also step in bounds with both feet before he catches the pass. The official must determine that the receiver was indeed shoved out of bounds, and that he got back into the field of play as fast as he possibly could.

“Forward pass is first touched by eligible receiver who has gone out of bounds and returned: When an offensive player leaves the field of play (even if he’s shoved out), returns inbounds, and is therefore an ineligible receiver.”

Pretty straightforward. If it happens while the ball is in the air it’s pass interference. That’s not what happened to Williams, though. If you don’t like it don’t let the DB manhandle you on your route. Simple as that.

Anyway even without that last call the Bucs made so many huge errors today I couldn’t even keep track of them all. This should’ve been at least a 14-point win for the Bucs but they blew it big time.

@FLBoyindallas if thats the case receivers would NEVER be able to make catches in the back of the end zone. Might as well shove them out of bounds EVERY SINGLE TIME. Its not legal to TOUCH the receiver after 5 yards!

One of the worst thing about losing is watching all the haters come out and post BS, as if the other team isn’t payed to win games as well. We just didn’t make the plays we needed to make to win the game, plain and simple. I don’t care what their record is, that’s a good team (coming off a bye) that we just lost to. Mistakes were made by both players and coaches, but bottom line is that we just made less play that we needed to. This one stings, but I don’t feel the need to point the finger at who is to blame. I’m pretty sure I won’t have a lot of company in feeling that way.

What is up with free he keep playing the clock down to 1 sec. what the heck is that. was it becuase the pay call wasn’t getting to him on time and if that is the case then coach need to coach his coaches on the damm clock. free needs to get his act together. He is better then this for sure..

I guess the important part of the rule that needs interpreting by the officials is the part that reads, “legally forced out of bounds”. What’s the difference between being legally and illegally being forced out of bounds before the pass is thrown? That’s the core issue here.

It’s not illegal contact pushing him out of bounds because Freeman was outside of the pocket. I guess the reasoning is because Freeman could run and the defense could be potentially fighting off a block. I don’t like it either, but that’s the stupid rule.

Optimis I guess you’re right if Freeman wasn’t starting to scramble. If he was still in the pocket and Williams was intentionally shoved out of bounds it should’ve been called illegal contact on the Saints and the Bucs given the option to decline the penalty and take the TD.

I also think we got screwed on the 15-yard penalty on what would’ve been a 51-yeard FG attempt by the Saints. The DL can stunt or re-position sideways before the snap and it isn’t a penalty. Only if they fake jumping forwards towards the OL in order to intentionally draw them into a false start is it a penalty on the DL. They didn’t do that. They simply adjusted sideways by a single gap at the last second. Schiano was absolutely livid about that.

The officials are going to get some horrible reviews of their performance after this one. Still, though, the Bucs killed themselves in this game far more than even the officials did. Shame.

Freeman took too much time off the clock? We went damn near 80 yards with less than 2 minutes left and no timeouts and he took too long? We had 3 plays inside the 10 yard line (4 if you count the spike). It’s fine if you don’t think Freeman is a good QB (you are well within your right to feel that way as he has done plenty to justify that belief), but to say he didn’t have a great game is biased beyond words. I’m not sure what game you were watching, but we have NEVER had a QB that was able to make those types of throws. It’s not his fault we can’t get a yard on 4 tries, or V-Jax runs as fast as Brian Price.

Yes the Bucs left points on the field today but the officials stole 7 points from them and incorrectly gave 7 points to the Saints on that ridiculous non-penalty penalty on their FG try, so it’s about even.

It was because Freeman was OUT of the pocket when he threw the pass. It was the proper call. Stop crying. Their defense did what they had to to stop our 1 TD. Blount, Martin Freeman Noone was getting in. Maybe pass was a better option. Put this on the damn DC and defense where it belongs. NOT just the pass defense. You put no pressure on Brees with our “STUDS” and rush 3 all day he will pick you apart. He did. The offense did enough that should win point wise.

Eric, Put pressure on him and get him on the ground he does not put 35 on the board. Don’t give me the BS we could not have done it. There was no pressure on him all day. Look what Freeman did when he had all day to throw.

I stil can’t get over the fact that these bucs, in almost every game, play 2 wonderful quarters (today first and fourth) and 2 where its like they were these really bad tem with no will to win at all. It’s been like this on EVERY GAME (though i couldn’t watch the KC game, not counting that one on this). Panthers: First half. NYG: First half. Dallas:Most of the game. Redskins: 2nd half. I strongly feel this is a coaching problem, as the issue clearly shows on a simple strategic analysis. Feel like they could easily have 4-2 record at least.

Everyone in the media, including Mike Pereira, are saying Freeman was outside the pocket and therefore illegal contact does not apply. You can legally shove a WR out of bounds once the QB is outside the pocket as long as the ball isn’t in the air yet. This is exactly what happened on this play so I have to say the final answer is that the Bucs did NOT get screwed on this play and the officials were actually correct.