Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

I was eating a nice juicy pear and then I spat it all over myself reading this. Thanks Alveus.

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But it had not been in Tess's power - nor is it in anybody's power - to feel the whole truth of golden opinions while it is possible to profit by them. She - and how many more - might have ironically said to God with Saint Augustine, "Thou hast counselled a better course than thou hast permitted."

But it had not been in Tess's power - nor is it in anybody's power - to feel the whole truth of golden opinions while it is possible to profit by them. She - and how many more - might have ironically said to God with Saint Augustine, "Thou hast counselled a better course than thou hast permitted."

Yes, this is true. It's called Cloud Theology. Sort of like Cloud Computing for Seminary grads.

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If you will, you can become all flame.Extra caritatem nulla salus.In order to become whole, take the "I" out of "holiness". सर्वभूतहितἌνω σχῶμεν τὰς καρδίας"Those who say religion has nothing to do with politics do not know what religion is." -- Mohandas GandhiY dduw bo'r diolch.

It appears that the controversy over the nature of clouds was a side issue during the great Palamite debates about created vs. uncreated grace. The matter was overshadowed by the more pressing questions and was never resolved; to this day, nubes ex deus remains a viable theologoumenon.

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But it had not been in Tess's power - nor is it in anybody's power - to feel the whole truth of golden opinions while it is possible to profit by them. She - and how many more - might have ironically said to God with Saint Augustine, "Thou hast counselled a better course than thou hast permitted."

It appears that the controversy over the nature of clouds was a side issue during the great Palamite debates about created vs. uncreated grace. The matter was overshadowed by the more pressing questions and was never resolved; to this day, nubes ex deus remains a viable theologoumenon.

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I hope the "overshadowed" wasn't unintentional because that was brilliant.

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“There is your brother, naked, crying, and you stand there confused over the choice of an attractive floor covering.”

Has anyone heard of this teaching? I heard from a guy that the clouds are made of God. Is this Orthodox?

Clouds are made of water vapor. If you worship water, I suppose one could be justified making that argument. IIRC, the Syrian Bardaisan made taught that God was water. St. Ephraim the Syrian quipped that Bardaisan had water where his brains ought to be.

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If you spend long enough on this forum, you'll come away with all sorts of weird, untrue ideas of Orthodox Christianity.

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I would suggest most persons in general avoid any question beginning with why.

But it had not been in Tess's power - nor is it in anybody's power - to feel the whole truth of golden opinions while it is possible to profit by them. She - and how many more - might have ironically said to God with Saint Augustine, "Thou hast counselled a better course than thou hast permitted."

On further investigation, it seems the idea cited in the OP was voiced by Abp Petrosian.

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But it had not been in Tess's power - nor is it in anybody's power - to feel the whole truth of golden opinions while it is possible to profit by them. She - and how many more - might have ironically said to God with Saint Augustine, "Thou hast counselled a better course than thou hast permitted."

The term planet earth is an innovation which has arisen in recent centuries with the error of heliocentrism.

If one wants to confess a pure doctrine of Orthodoxy, they should be careful not to refer to the earth as a planet, unlike the current Pope as well as Patriarch Kirill and Patriarch Bartholomew, who regularly speak in error when they refer to our planet earth.

I really wish that this thread would have resulted in painfully in-depth analyses of historical, scriptural, and patristic texts. You disappointed me with your mostly stupid and cheeky responses, OC.net.

I really wish that this thread would have resulted in painfully in-depth analyses of historical, scriptural, and patristic texts. You disappointed me with your mostly stupid and cheeky responses, OC.net.

Patience, my son. Soon enough, wgw will appear and give us a doctoral thesis on this issue.

The term planet earth is an innovation which has arisen in recent centuries with the error of heliocentrism.

If one wants to confess a pure doctrine of Orthodoxy, they should be careful not to refer to the earth as a planet, unlike the current Pope as well as Patriarch Kirill and Patriarch Bartholomew, who regularly speak in error when they refer to our planet earth.

We should see more of these as we head into another mini-ice age called a maunder minimum.

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Also known as "nacreous" or "mother of pearl" clouds, icy PSCs form in the lower stratosphere when temperatures drop to around minus 85ºC. That's how cold it has to be for ice crystals to form in the very dry stratosphere. High-altitude sunlight shining through tiny ice particles ~10µm across produce the characteristic bright iridescent colors by diffraction and interference. ...

"Polar stratospheric clouds far outshine and have much more vivid colours than ordinary iridescent clouds, which are very much poor relations and seen frequently all over the world," writes atmospheric optics expert Les Cowley. "Once seen they are never forgotten."

The memory of God should be treasured in our hearts like the precious pearl mentioned in the Holy Gospel. Our life's goal should be to nurture and contemplate God always within, and never let it depart, for this steadfastness will drive demons away from us. - Paraphrased from St. Philotheus of Sinai Writings from the Philokalia: On Prayer of the Heart,Translated from the Russian by E. Kadloubovksy and G.E.H. Palmer, Faber and Faber, London, Boston, 1992 printing.