“There will be more Kids See Ghosts albums. Kanye already told me he wants to start working on the second one,” Cudi said. “We had a discussion where he said he wanted to make a spiritual album and I told him, ‘Great. That’s what I do. I would love to do that, something I can sink my teeth into.’ So there will definitely be more.”

Kids See Ghosts debuted at No. 2 on the Billboard 200 albums chart, moving 142,000 copies in its first week. Its popular single, “Reborn,” peaked at No. 39 on the Hot 100 chart and was eventually certified Gold.

Although Kid Cudi is no longer signed to Kanye West’s G.O.O.D. Music, the two remain close after several years of rocky relations. Cudi explained to Complex that he was hesitant to have Kanye West too involved in the projects he released on the label because he wanted to make sure he stood out as an artist.

“Early on, I could have had Kanye more involved in my album, but it wasn’t about that at all,” he said. “It was about me telling my story and me getting my sound out there. I had my single with ’Ye, but ultimately my albums were all me… People that are really eager to do collaborations, that’s a certain type of person. You could probably get your collaborations off, but then, when it comes to your own shit, you’re probably—.”

Kanye appeared on both of Kid Cudi’s G.O.O.D. albums, contributing verses to “Make Her Say” off Man on the Moon: The End of Day and “Erase Me” from Man on the Moon II: The Legend of Mr. Rager. However, he has just two production credits on Cudi’s first album, and none on his second. Kanye wouldn’t appear on another Cudi album until Kids See Ghosts, although Cudi has been featured on every Kanye West album since 808s & Heartbreak.

Cudi said he shared advice about being wary of reliance on collaborations with Jaden, whose been close with Cudi since childhood:

I remember Jaden [Smith] and I were talking about collaborations years ago. This was early on; Jaden was, like, 15 or 14, something like that. I was telling him that maybe it’s best that you don’t collaborate with anybody, that you just make your songs and do that for a little bit, and then eventually you’ll find somebody you wanna collaborate with. But right now, you need to develop your sound and focus on that, and then collaborations will come when the time is right. The way the game is right now, everybody’s big on collaborations, and that’s cool—there’s a lot of great songs that come from collaborations. But we can’t forget about making an album that you wanna hear from beginning to end with no skips."