Moran cleverly turns one of society's lies on its head, namely that men are the 'realists' while women are oh-so-romantic. Quite the contrary!

When it comes to affairs of the heart, women all too often demonstrate that they have no heart, that ice water rather than blood runs in their veins. Witness a woman's propensity for cold, callous behavior during divorce proceedings, for instance. She thinks nothing of divesting the man of a great part of his wealth, as well as the opportunity to see his children (assuming that he is the one who sired them) on a regular basis.

He is the one who is driven to despair while she ruthlessly plots his demise; he is the one who is reduced to poverty while she spends whatever money he can send on herself, on top of whatever funds she is able to leech from either the state or her new boyfriend; he is the one whose lifespan is cut horribly short, while she moves far less than gracefully into middle age and beyond, knowing that, no matter what ails her, real or perceived, there will always be those who stand ready to assist, and always at someone else's expense.

It took me two broken hearts and a major depression to realize this truth which has been concealed carefully from us (to make us bit the bait of marriage). The truth that men are romantic and women are not. That when you say "I love you", you are full of romantic feelings about her. When they say "I love you", they are full of romantic feelings about the future lifestyle they dream of (house, children, economical status, etc) not about you. Men love women and women love their lifestyle and their children.

In fact, since men provide for women, women are more physically dependent of men that the other way around. So nature has levelled the field making men more emotionally dependent of women. If it is not were this way, women would have not survived and human race would have been extincted.

The relationship between men and women mirrors the relationship between women and children. Women really LOVE children (the same way men love women). Children love their mothers (the same way women love men) but this love is much smaller than the other way around. Since children are physically dependent of mothers, nature has made women emotionally dependent of children. Otherwise, children would have not survived. So we can say that children are parasites of their mothers.

The same way, women are parasites of their men and a man cannot expect that a woman would love him the same way he loves her, the way he wants to be loved. This is a truth which is hard to accept because men are full of romantic feelings toward women.

If we can cut the number of donors down enough to drive the clinics to start paying them exorbitant fees, this will then foster an image of sperm donation as a greed-driven and hence less-respectable activity.

The idea works on a principle discovered by blood donation campaigns, namely that altruism is a more powerful motivator for donorship than money. Thus, the key method of dropping donation numbers is to disassociate philanthropy from sperm donation.

If we can argue against sperm donation on the basis of it creating a number of social ills and cases of emotional turmoil, then we have a viable platform for creating this disassociation.

I'm not completely sure of the demographics of sperm donors, but I would assume that they are mostly liberal males of graduate level education who have been deluded into thinking that they are performing some kind of social service. If we can show them the disconnect between their intentions and the reality of their actions, we will have created a powerful social idea that will put reproductive control back into the hands of men.

Coupled with the impending advent of male birth control, this meme will have a devastating effect on the status, legitimacy, and power of the single motherhood lobby.

Agreed. Lack of reproductive rights for men is probably #1 on my own list. The male pill will change EVERYTHING.

No more being stitched up for life by one stupid indiscretion at a party. No more being lied to by women who want to get pregnant so that they can quit the game for good.

Best of all would be the legal right to on-demand paternity testing so that there'd be no fun and games with cuckolding, but this is probably just a dream. (As a side note about this, every proud mother I've seen for the last year is at pains to point out the child's resemblence to its father - and they've been right. The kids DO look like the guy who they're married to or living with).

As a further side note I saw a woman just yesterday who was FUCKING GORGEOUS and who I tried getting some eye contact going with. Then I saw the pram, the kids, and the husband!! Oops. I stopped right there. Good luck to the both of them.

Tonight's TV fare: Runaway Bride about a totally annoying, heartless bitch who dumps her bumbling men at the altar until Richard Gere sweeps her off her feet. One scene had her showing off her many engagement rings to Richard Gere where she recollects only a name with the ring and how that schmuck proposed to her. Actually I could only take a total of about 30 minutes of that shit. Switch the channel to the Princess Diaries which wasn't even worth trying to figure out. Women love this crap and actually believe it will happen to them. Some Richard Gere will come along and romance them and send them to heaven, in other words to a huge house in a swanky part of town. Any movie with the word Princess should be banned.

The world has become absolutely crazy. In the good old days one married a young virgin, had many children with her, fed and protected her knowing very well that she was unable and unwilling to do it herself.

Check out this post regarding Amani Toomer of the NY Giants recent divorce from his wife, he alleges that she had up to four abortions that he opposed and refused to bear his children. This despite him giving her a lavish lifestyle and paying for her education.

I may be the last person to know about this in the US. New England Patriot superstar quarterback Tom Brady broke up with movie actress Bridget Moynahan last year and then later found out she was 3 months pregnant by him. The bitch knew he was leaving her pulled a fast one on him. And everybody thinks she looked fabulous pregnant. She's a dirty slut. Tom Brady should have known better, though.

This is a transcript of text messages between a married couple, the husband is a wealthy hedge fund manager who died mysteriously, maybe the wife killed him. The wife is threatening, extremely violent, the husband (Sneffer) is calm as men are usually.This is why men should not marry, you cannot expect decency anymore even if you are a hedgefund manager and your wife has the best life.

Because it got published on a site for hedgefunds, hopefully more rich people will wake up.

Ash emerged with the allegation Filomena murdered Seth, claiming she drugged Tobias then led him into the swimming pool of his Florida mansion, where he drowned. The testimony of Ash surfaced amid a pending legal battle between the Tobias family and Filomena over the $25 million estate of Circle T founder Seth Tobias. The transcript has been proffered in support of the contention that Filomena killed Seth.

So far, no ruling has been made in the death of Tobias. He died in September at 44.

Below is an edited version of the transcript with the time of each individual text message removed to make for easier reading:

Ftobias8: I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT U HAD SEX WITH HER!!!!!! STOP LYING TO ME YOU ARE ONLY FOOLING YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U STILL LIED, YOU STILL DECEIVED ME AND YOU DESTROYED OUR MARRIAGE!!!!!! YOU ARE A LYER, AND YOU DECIEVED ME!! YOU ARE AN ADDICT, AND SICK, SICK, SICK I HOPE YOU DROP DIED

Ftobias8: YOU ARE A SICK FUCK, A REALLY SICK FUCK I HATE YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO ME…………YOU WILL PAY FOR IT, THIS IS MY DEATH WISH TO THE END………………………………………………………

Ftobias8: YOU WILL PAY. I PROMISE YOU THAT…………I WILL NOT HAVE PEACE TILL YOU PAY FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE TO MY HEART…YOU ARE EVIL

Ftobias8: THE DEVIL IN DISGUISE THAT’S YOU…YOU KNOW IN YOUR HEART YOU DID THIS. YOU ARE SICK AND I PITTY ME FOR BELIEVING YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ftobias8: I HOPE ONE DAY WHEN YOU ARE DRINKING AND BLOWING COKE UP YOUR NOSE THAT YOU DIE

Ftobias8: U PATHETIC, SICK, FUCK

Ftobias8: HOW CAN YOU LOOK AT YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR………YOU ARE SOOOOO EVIL AND SICKKKKK

Ftobias8: YOU HURT ME AND MY INNOCENT BOYS ROGER AND JACOB BECAUSE OF YOUR SICK, SELFISH PATHITIC AND EVIL SELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sneffer: please stop

Ftobias8: DID YOU STOP LYING AND TELLING ME I WAS CRAZY WHILE YOU WERE DECIEVING ME???????????????????????? DID YOU> WHILE YOU DESTROYED ME AND MY BOYS FUTURE AND LIVES

Ftobias8: YOU SICK PATHETIC FUCK, YOU ARE AN ADDICT AND SICK AND I AM GOING TO MAKE YOU STOP ONCE AND FOR ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ftobias8: I REGRET GIVING YOU MY HEART AMD SOUL……YOU DID NOT DESERVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!! U WERE THE DEVIL IN DISGUISE……YOU ARE EVIL AND SICK, SICK, SICK I HATE YOU FOR DESTROYING MY SPIRIT

Sneffer: calm down

Ftobias8: MY CHILDRE DID NOT DESRVE IT EITHER!!!!!!!!!!!!! MOST OF JACOB’S ISSUES ARE BECAUSE OF YOU!!!!!!!!!!

Sneffer: he had issues prior to me

Sneffer: you can’t blame me for all of this

Sneffer: we are both at fault

Ftobias8: YOU ADDED TO IT……MY THERAPIST WILL TESTIFY THAT ……YOU’LL SEE WHAT YOUR IN FOR

Ftobias8: THE WAR JUST STARTED AND YOU STARTED IT……………I AM WARNING YOU………………

Sneffer: stop being angry and take a breath

Sneffer: are u threatening me?

Ftobias8: YOU MADETHE FIRST MOVE AND I WAS ONLY TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF MY MIND AND MY CHILDREN

Sneffer: no u went nuclear a while ago

Ftobias8: I AHVE MANY MANY MANY PEOPLE TO TESTIFY

Ftobias8: U MADE TOO MUCH DAMAGE

Sneffer: i’m sure you do…but why get nasty?

Sneffer: it will only harm both of us

Ftobias8: BECAYSE YOU DESERVE IT FOR WHAT YOU DID TO US

Ftobias8: WHAT YOU MADE ME FEEL LIKE AND THE DAMAGE TO MY CHILDREN, MY REPUTATION AND MY DREAMS

Sneffer: the kids do not need that…i don’t…and you don’t

Sneffer: all i wanted was to move forward

Ftobias8: YOU DID IT, THE NEGLECT AND THE ABSENCE AND THE EMPTY PROMISES TO ME AND THEM

Sneffer: you kept going backwards

Sneffer: i am seeing my therapist tues

Ftobias8: YOU DID U SICK FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!HOW CAN U MOVE FORWARD WHEN YOU STILL HAD THE PAST IN OUR LIVES AND IN OUR BED

Sneffer: that is a lie

Sneffer: lie

Sneffer: lie

Ftobias8: YOU ARE A LIE

Ftobias8: SICK LIER

Ftobias8: EVERYTHING YOU DO AND SAY IS A LIE

Sneffer: all i wanted to do was be happy with us

Sneffer: i told you I would work on us

Ftobias8: YOU WERE NOT CAPABLE YOU ARE NOT HONEST YOU ARE EVIL AND SICK

Sneffer: amazing when u think back to one year ago

Sneffer: i am sad about this

Ftobias8: YOU WERE NOT CAPABLE OF BEING HONEST, OR A GOOD HUSBAND, OR A GOOD STEP FATHER

Sneffer: I wish we worked out

Ftobias8: YOU ARE NOT CAPABLE OF STOPPING TO DRINK, OR DOING YOUR COKE OR BEING HONEST

Ftobias8: ALL I WANTED WAS FOR YOU TO BE HONEST AND NOT DECIEVE ME

Sneffer: it’s never too late

Ftobias8: ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS LOVE ME

Ftobias8: BE HONEST AND STOP

Ftobias8: YOU KEPT TELLING ME I WAS SICK IWAS NUTS……………………YES YOU MADE ME NUTS

Ftobias8: BUT YOU ARE SICK

Ftobias8: YOU’RE A SICK MANIPULATING LIER

Ftobias8: YOU ARE AN ADDICT, NEVER TRUST AN ADDICT……………

Ftobias8: YOU ARE SICK

Ftobias8: I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL YOU SICK FUCK

Ftobias8: AFTER THIS LAST HURRAH ENJOY YOUR SICK PATHETIC LIFE……IN YOR RAT HOLE HOUSE WITH YOUR DRUGS AND ALCOHOL…I HOPE YOU GET AIDS WITH ALL THE WHORES YOU FUK TOO

At that point, the exchange is ended, only to resume later that day.

Sneffer: Please understand that i do love you

Sneffer: and i am sorry

Ftobias8: YOU ARE A SICK LIAR, AN ADDICT AND A SELFISH SCUMBAG!!! A CHEATER AND ABUSER……YOU OPENED THE BOX, NOW WATCH ME DESTROY YOU!!!!!!! YOU FUCKED WITH YOUR MATCH

Ftobias8: I HATE YOU FOR WHAT YOU DID TO DESTROY EVERYTHING……YOU ARE EVIL AND SICK YOU ARE SICK YOU ARE SICK AND A SELFISH PRICK

Ftobias8: I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!

Sneffer: no you do not

Ftobias8: DROP DEAD AND ROTT IN HELL…I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SAVE YOU AND US BUT YOU DESTROYED THAT TOO……ROTT IN HELL SETH

Sneffer: take a breather

Ftobias8: I BELIEVE YOU WHEN YOU CAME BACK TO MARRY ME…ALL YOU HAVE DNE SINCE THEN IS LIE, LIE LIE YOU DECIEVED ME IN MORE WAYS THAN ONE……

The sperm donor shortage will accelerate research into cloning. The next generation of career women will not only have handbags that match their shoes, they will soon have designer babies to match themselves.

Continuing her investigation into Britain's adultery epidemic, Angela Levin talks to professional women who have affairs to bolster their marriages - and revitalise flagging sex lives.

"There's no reason why a multitasking woman can't handle extra-marital relationships in a similar way to a man. I multitask to an astonishing degree in my business life, and all I am doing is taking that ability into my personal life. It isn't a big deal.

One of the men I admire most was my sergeant in the first Gulf war. Thanks to him, I'm still alive to sit here with a beer beside me. We're still in touch, the sarge and me, and I visit him at least once a year. He's not in a nursing home, he lives alone and gets about on two sticks because of a back injury.

His back isn't the worst of his problems, though. When we returned from the Gulf, he couldn't wait to get home to his wife. His wife gave him a surprise present when he got home. She gave him the clap. When he finally realised what he had and reported sick, he was sent to the genito-urinary clinic. That's where they told him she had also given him genital warts.

The clap cleared up with antibiotics treatment but the warts keep coming back. He gets them in the urethra, that's the tube leading down from the bladder through your dick. The pain when he pisses is excruciating. He says it makes him cry some days. Believe me, that must be some fucking pain if it makes him cry.

He's been reamed out three times and the hospital say they won't do it anymore. Next time he gets completely blocked up, they're going to put a tap in his belly so that he can piss through that into a jug. Meanwhile, he forces a catheter into his dick and up to his bladder every day to try to keep the piss flowing.

When the divorce came through, she got the kids and the house. The kids don't speak to him anymore. Under the new law here in Britain, she can claim half his pension.

Interesting that you all want to put an end to sperm donations...but what are you all doing to make marriage more desirable to both men and women?

Translation from women-talk to English: If ending sperm donations prevents some women from having kids, what are you all doing to make these women able to have kids in other way (i.e., marriage)?

Nothing. The fact that some women want to have kids and cannot, IT IS NOT OUR PROBLEM. It's these women's problem.

Women are so used to give men the responsibility to solve their problems that this broad asks all us to solve women's problems. All this after three decades of labelling men as oppressors and women as victims.

Sorry, it's not going to happen. When women do something to end the legal rape which is divorce and allow divorced dads to keep their assets and their children, we men will do something about spinsterhood.

"What are you going to do to make marriage more desireable to men and women?"

Personally speaking; nothing. I don't give a shit anymore.

I've grown nothing but increasingly cynical in the last few years and, to be honest, I'm more and more motivated in staying single not so much by the hope of avoiding the horrors of divorce, but rather by the laughs I get from watching previously empowered men-hating fembot women watch the world from a dusty shelf, brushing the cobwebs from their twats and mourning for the time when men looked at them, rather than just looked through them.

I'm more and more motivated in staying single not so much by the hope of avoiding the horrors of divorce, but rather by the laughs I get from watching previously empowered men-hating fembot women watch the world from a dusty shelf, brushing the cobwebs from their twats and mourning for the time when men looked at them, rather than just looked through them.

Duncan, you are a genius.

@woman with a question

Interesting that you all want to put an end to sperm donations...but what are you all doing to make marriage more desirable to both men and women?

There are countless ways a woman WILL screw up your life, but one of the most horrifying to me is the FACT that the vast majority of western women have HPV, and usually they have multiple strains- both cancer and wart varieties.

You can NOT safely have sex with or without a condom these days. As my mother used to say:

"If a woman will go to bed with you without the benefit of marriage, you aren't the first and you won't be the last."

Men are so easily flattered by attractive women who are willing to go have sex with them. This is foolish. Virtually ALL women in their twenties and thirties have at the very least HPV, and probably genital Herpes, as well. Pretty much all of these beautiful women that men lust after are infected. It's a rare exception that isn't. Even worse, most women will knowingly infect you anyway.

They're just that mean.

A woman's vagina is a cesspool of filth and disease. Only a fool will stick his Willy into such a sewer.

just the fact that 30% of all paternity tests show that the father who thought he was the father is not the father, plus the abortion statistics prove to me beyond ANY and ALL arguments that the vast majority of women in the western world are absolutely positively evil whores that are worse than animals and not even worth gutter trash. I cannot believe that no matter where you turn today, the message in society is that women are princesses and men are disgusting pigs that don't deserve anything. When pig evil women meet the grim reaper in hell and they realize their soul will spend the rest of eternity there, I hope they think of me laughing my ass off.

Woman who does not like work, who wants to save her?she wants to do graphik design, I hope she will get married before her looks fade. She seems so depressed, how depressed will she be, when she is old?

ester Villar and Erin Pizzey were both women who received death threats from feminists while being feminists themselves.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey

According to many webpages, Pizzey has said, or has been quoted as saying[2]: "Men are gentle, honest and straightforward. Women are convoluted, deceptive and dangerous." Contrary to what it may seem from that popular quote, she has not promoted a stance that most women are violent or that women are more violent than men. Her view is opposed by those who placed the blame solely upon "prevailing patriarchal attitudes." She lamented that the movement she started had moved from the personal to the political.

In her book Prone to Violence (full text available online) she propounded the theory that many of the women who took refuge had a personality such that they sought abusive relationships. The book contains numerous stories of disturbed families alongside a discussion of the reasons why the modern state care-taking agencies are largely ineffective (one extreme situation was when a woman in the refuge bit off a top of another woman's finger).

Some internet sources make the claim that Prone to Violence was suppressed by feminists (a search of all libraries in the world that could be accessed from the US Library of Congress through the Inter-Library Network in 1996 revealed a total of only thirteen listings in the worldwide).

After death threats made by feminist activists against her, her children, her grandchildren, and the killing of her dog,[3],[4] Pizzey left England for North America. She returned to London in the 1990s where her insights were sought by politicians and family pressure groups.

Carrie Jones hasn't had sex with her husband Hal, a City banker, for the past four years. Nor does she want to. Sex is something she can no longer summon the effort to endure - with the man she married, at least.

She admits she stays in her sexless relationship for the sake of her children, aged nine and 11, and will remain celibate until the day they are grown up and she feels able to leave. At which point, she confesses, she will probably abandon her husband and begin a sexual odyssey to find the satisfaction that eludes her.

HE IS VERY FRIENDLY:

"I'd flipped from wife to mother, and it gave me excuses - often genuine - to cold-shoulder my husband's sexual advances. He knew I was tired from the children and was always very understanding. He's an unusually kind and tolerant man."

SHE WANTS TO LEAVE HIM:

Unbelievably, her poor, unsuspecting husband is not only unaware of her plans to leave him.

AND HERE IS THE PROBLEM: SHE IS NOT USED TO FIDELITY.

So what of her sexual history? It seems that Carrie wasn't always this uninterested in sex. She admits to having 23 lovers before she married.

"Ten were proper boyfriends," she recalls. "I regretted having sex with six of them, loved three of them but only one of the 23 ever gave me an orgasm.

"Only an affair with a married man called John bucked the trend. But that was doomed by its very nature."

Five years ago, Carrie almost cheated on her husband after regaining contact with an old flame on the website Friends Reunited.

"I nearly lost my virginity to Mark when we were 17, but my mother arrived home as we enjoyed a fumble in my bedroom," she recalls.

"He was gorgeous, looked like a man even back then in his school uniform, and remained in my consciousness for all those years.

"When I looked on Friends Reunited, it was an enormous thrill just to find Mark's name. I e-mailed him immediately. He replied with an update on his life and said he was single - I was intoxicated.

Never believe that women want a career, they want prestige and money but they certainly do not want the stress and risk that is associated to a career.Karoshi is called the death that goes with too much work in japan.

Feminism is a great danger for civilization:http://dontgetmarried.proboards75.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1201282697"The first males were mutants... the male sex represents a degeneration and deformity of the female. MAN: ... an obsolete life form... an ordinary creature who needs to be watched ... TESTOSTERONE POISONING: ... Until now it has been though that the level of testosterone in men is normal simply because they have it. But if you consider how abnormal their behavior is, then you are led to the hypothesis that almost all men are suffering from "testosterone poisoning".[1]"NOW is the time to drop a boot heel in the groin of patriarchy. NOW IS THE TIME TO FIGHT BACK. NO GOD. NO MASTER. NO LAWS" [2]"Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is, if you don't like it, bad luck - and if you get in my way I'll run you down". [3]

For instance, Martha Burk who is the president of the Center for Advancement of Public Policy in Washington DC, and editor of the Washington Feminist Faxnet has proposed that men's fertility be controlled. How? By mandatory contraception beginning at puberty: men would be forced to have contraceptive implants along with compulsory DNA fingerprinting. Doctors would have to report a man who refused the implants or sought medical attention after trying to remove them himself. [5] This is not sci-fi; this is now.

Interesting that you all want to put an end to sperm donations...but what are you all doing to make marriage more desirable to both men and women?

--woman with a question

Absolutely nothing. Women blew it. You can marry each other for all I care. The solution for men is to simply never marry. The poor and stupid will carry on the race just fine without able men committing themselves to servitude to appease the whims of a woman who simply wants more. Men don't dream of houses and families, women do....we dream of adventure and loyalty...2 things women are unable to provide.

Sorry, it's not going to happen. When women do something to end the legal rape which is divorce and allow divorced dads to keep their assets and their children, we men will do something about spinsterhood.

Until then, you can buy some cats."

LOL, that was funny. But don't need a cat or a puppy as I have a way to get the real thing. Guess it kills you that there are guys out there willing to "give it." Funny there are plenty of men and women who are quite happy in relationships. Then there are men like those who frequent this bored that do nothing but complain. If you've had too many bad experiences with women, time to look in the mirror. I say the same to women who do nothing but complain as well.

But don't need a cat or a puppy as I have a way to get the real thing. Guess it kills you that there are guys out there willing to "give it."

Maybe you are able to get the real thing (one never knows because we don't know you personally). There are always men fool enough to give up their freedom, assets, happiness and peace of mind to support a nagging fatty. But we won't be caught in this trap. Each men free from the charade of marriage is another women having to bear spinsterhood.

With 20% of American men who are not wanting to marry anymore (and the number is raising every day), there are other women that cannot say that. And their number is increasing every day (not only in America but in the rest of world also). This is why women don't stop complaining "Where are all the good men gone?"

I live in a small city in Europe. There is two female friends of mine whose biological clock is ticking and they are desperate for me to ask them out and be their boyfriend. One of them is desperate enough to have made her mother tell my mother that "she will be delighted to be my girlfriend" (literally). Of course, I have a Ph. D. and an amazing job. Bad luck. You can keep studing your university (she is in the early thirties) and support yourself.

Funny there are plenty of men and women who are quite happy in relationships.

I know hundreds of married men and their happiness status goes from "Complete desperation", and "I would divorce but I don't want to hurt my kids" to "I wouldn't do it again but where am I going to do?"

Of course, most married men hide their unhappiness from their wives. And women love deluding themselves thinking their husband is so happy.

Then there are men like those who frequent this bored that do nothing but complain.

I'm sorry you don't want us to complain. Get used to it. After three decades of women complaining while men stayed silent, it is our turn to complain.

Of course, women don't want us to complain because a good slave suffers in silence ("takes it like a man") and only listen to the complaining and nagging of WIMMIN.

If you've had too many bad experiences with women, time to look in the mirror.

Typical shaming language. You don't know us and you don't know whether our experiences had been good or bad.

Even if our experiences had been bad (as in my case), this wouldn't invalidate any of our arguments. Since women can disprove our arguments, recur to "ad hominem" attacks.

Fool me once, shame on you...Fool me twice, shame on me...

You are right. This is why I avoid women except for sport-fucking. I won't be fooled again.

Women are sweet and kind in the beginning of the relationship and they end up being harpies.

LOL, that was funny. But don't need a cat or a puppy as I have a way to get the real thing.

Well, dear, I was not specifically referring to you. I guess you know the word "you" is singular and plural in the English language. I was talking about "you women who use sperm banks and who can have inconveniences because of these banks's closing". I assumed that this was obvious from the context of my message and the discussion about sperm banks. But maybe I wasn't clear enough. So I am glad to make this thing clear.

Furthermore, I want to comment your words:

LOL, that was funny. But don't need a cat or a puppy as I have a way to get the real thing... there are guys out there willing to "give it".

Well, perhaps you are right. But, as Clark Gable said in "Lost with the wind", "Dear, I don't give a damn". I don't care about your personal life. I am speaking about women in general.

The evidence of the fact that many women have not a way to get the real thing and that many men are not willing to "give it" is the following piece of news.

'Career women' empty nation's sperm banks "The demand is incredible and continually rising," said John Braine, from Fertility East in Bondi Junction.

The most surprising trend has been a 40 per cent rise in the number of single women seeking sperm donors.

"These are women, aged from 35 to 40, who are single, attractive career women, who cannot find a man to have a baby with," he said.

So there are a lot of women who can't find a man willing to "give it". But they always can buy a cat. A cat is a loving companion and it never complains.

This is why I plan to invest in companies who produce cat's food. Demand is raising and shares are a good investment.

As a woman, you've probably never sat on the other end of the calculating BS that women will dispense to get attention, fed, children, decorative objects, or, basically whatever they think they are entitiled to in order to funish the little Barbie playhouse that some fo them live in, all on their terms.

It ain't a contest, gals.

You think there's some motherf*cker with a white suit and a sepia parchment at the gates of the marble orchard who says "You took more than you gave! You win!"

"With 20% of American men who are not wanting to marry anymore (and the number is raising every day), there are other women that cannot say that. And their number is increasing every day (not only in America but in the rest of world also)."

According to the 2006 U.S. Census, about 1/3 of American men will never marry. The U.S. figure now equals the Australian figure which is surprising giving America's greater religiosity and more conservative culture.

What you all are not realizing is that there are men who want to do this. They are not interested in marriage or commitment to a woman, but still want to be fathers. So if you think you can stop this, you are chasing a wild goose. Also, it isn't just college kids donating sperm (to sperm banks). Some donors are men (30ish) do it because they want to reproduce and like the idea (as conceited as it is) of spreading their seed. To each his/her own.

As for complaining, it is really getting tired. I don't like people complaining when all they need to do is make neccessay changes within themselves. If you were jaded by a number of women, then STOP CHOOSING THE WRONG ONES. It's that simple, LOL.

What you all are not realizing is that there are men who want to do this.

We fully realize that. When we are talking about 30% of men not wanting to be marry, we are fully aware that they are 70% who still want to marry, as foolish as this is with the current marriage laws. This is why you will find here people who are talking constantly to awaken the men and things like that.

But, it is not an all-or-nothing question. If there are 30% of people who don't marry, this causes 30% of spinters. And this causes 30% of men being free of an ever-nagging woman. And this causes that the remaining 70% of women see their choices reduced (Like my cousin, who being a professional career woman and wanting to marry a rich man, had to accept a man who has not a career nor a job because she was in her mid-thirties - while professional male friends of her remain single).

So if you think you can stop this, you are chasing a wild goose.

Well, not really. Christendom started being 13 people (12 apostles plus Jesus) and they are billions today. Communism started being an only man (Karl Marx) and they end up being billions. Feminism started being a handful of women (Betty Friedan and people like them).

50 years ago, the percentage of straight men wanting not to marry and have kids was probably below 1%. 10 years ago, the percentage was maybe 5%. Now, they are probably 30% and they increase every year. Do you see a tendency?

This is because marriage has not the incentives it used to have for a man and men are slowly awakening to that. Of course, cultural tendencies like that are slow to change but we are not in a hurry. While the tendency remain clear, we only have to wait.

And by the way, if you think our efforts are useless and we are chasing a wild goose, what do you bother? Why are you so dissatisfied with what is said here if we are doomed to failure?

As for complaining, it is really getting tired.

Well, if you are tired, you can leave this group. Nobody called you. You are entitled to express your points of view and the same applies to everybody else. You are not entitled to make all shut up only because you are tired.

I don't like people complaining

You are entitled to your likes. We have the right of complaining whether you like it or not.

This is a free country and we have freedom of expression. Get used to the fact that men have their own opinions and don't have to do whatever you want them to do.

If you don't like us to complain, you can leave. Men have been silent for decades, unable to express their problems and their grievances (while women complained and complained everywhere). Even today, most men cannot express their dissatisfaction with women, because this can have serious consequences in their works or their personal lives. This is one of the places when we can be ourselves with total freedom. Do you want us to shut up? Sorry, it is not going to happen. Get used to that.

when all they need to do is make neccessay changes within themselves. If you were jaded by a number of women, then STOP CHOOSING THE WRONG ONES. It's that simple, LOL.

A lot of things. I do not know where to start.

1. What makes you think we have chosen "the wrong ones"? You do not know us. In fact, most men try to choose "the right one". We were not chasing bimbos. We were looking for a "good woman". It's another business that the so-called "good woman" degenerates into a harpy when she has not everything their way (like you, that when we do not agree with you, tell us "gay" and "woman haters" - in the other thread).

2. You are supremely arrogant. What makes you think you know what is best for men better than men do? Women tell over and over again how men have to do but they do not accept the other way around. How makes you think you have a clue what is to be a man?

3. What makes you think that you can control our behaviour? Are you our mother? Do you think we are your husband and you can nag us and tell us what we should/must/have to do, as women say every time? You are in the wrong forum. Try in manginas.com.

This is why I have avoided women for a longtime. The only way to be at peace with a woman it is doing whatever they wanted us to do (and, even that, they are always complaining because we don't do it the exact way they want us to do). I prefer not to be a slave.

I had the misfortune of finally scoring with this hot looking 24 year old chick i had been after (after i said the right things about where i saw myself in five years lol). Well to make a short story short her fucked-out pussy couldn't have been filled by an elephant cock, and it was obvious though she denied it that she had at one time given birth. I still have nightmarish visions of that destroyed cunt with huge flappy lips, and OOOOOH THE SMELL or should i say REEK rather lol. Anyway when i left her place i just felt pity and disgust and didn't look back; when she called me 3 weeks later it took me almost 2minutes to recognize who i was talking to even after she had told me her name lol, i chatted with her for about 10 seconds and told her i would call her later that evening.......YA RIGHT i would have stabbed myself in both eyes first lol Gerald Montreal

LOL, that was funny. But don't need a cat or a puppy as I have a way to get the real thing. Guess it kills you that there are guys out there willing to "give it." Funny there are plenty of men and women who are quite happy in relationships. Then there are men like those who frequent this bored that do nothing but complain. If you've had too many bad experiences with women, time to look in the mirror. I say the same to women who do nothing but complain as well.

LOL, that was funny. If any of that was true online dating sites would not be swarmed with all the desperate women. There wouldn't be news articles about where all the men have gone.

Woman with a questionable intellect wrote:"So if you think you can stopthis, you are chasing a wild goose.Also, it isn't just college kidsdonating sperm (to sperm banks).Some donors are men (30ish) do itbecause they want to reproduce andlike the idea (as conceited as itis) of spreading their seed."

What is it with women that they always confuse their wishful thinking with reality?

Since the Blair (spit) government abolished anonymity the sperm banks have dried up:

This trend will continue around the world because of the importance of genetics when it comes to health matters. The child will have a right to know his or her genetic heritage and that will scare off men like it has in Britain.

Men! Wise up...you are beginning to sound pathetic. What we have now isn't a world of Men vs Women, but one of the Wise vs the Foolish, and we better all start finding ways of judging who we bring into our lives, way before we start indulging the little hair trigger in our hearts. Whoever said 'men don't dream of houses and families, women do....we dream of adventure and loyalty' must be a deeply unfulfilled person. I have plenty of adventure and loyalty AND I want be part of a loving home for my children. It is to your detriment to start finger pointing towards womankind. Extreme feminism found it's biggest enemy in liberal feminism, not the extreme men's rights lobby. Conduct yourself with honesty, integrity and grace, not anger, name-calling and tit-for-tat reprisals.

Dylan Moran is a genius and it feels good to laugh along with a man saying 'women have no feelings' but taking this as a launchpad for serious resentments against women in general is unbalanced at best.