The whole credibility of Matt's argument I think was hurt by RAW this week. Kane is getting over as a face with this angle. Lita is basically coming off like a whore, Matt just looks whipped, but Kane is cool. Kane saves it. And that's bad news for Lita and Matt, who will probably never be the same on the other end of this angle. I can't imagine anyone rooting for them to be together after this.

And in the blatantly homophobic and vaguely misogynistic world of professional wrestling, once you get labelled a whipped bitch, you're not gettin' over. Say what you will about Austin and Rocky and any number of guys who were portrayed badly but went on to stardom, none of them were ever portrayed as neutered girly-men sharing labia with necrophiles.

And no, I am NOT just agreeing because I was quoted at the beginning of the article. Though I'm sincerely grateful anyone finds me remotely intelligent

If the WWE think they can drag this angle out the full nine months without the fans pelting the ring with their half-eaten nachos every time it's brought up they must be shroomin'. Kane's good but he's not THAT good, hell, no one is that good.

This angle needs to end soon, and then Matt needs to move on and never associate with Lita again. If that happens his career might become something, but that ain't gonna happen. So Matt's career will continue to amount to nothing until Vince decides to bring back Jeff.

Shame too, coz Matt could have really been something. He had one of the best tv matches of 2003 (vs Benoit in the US Tourny Semi-Final).

Originally posted by Metaphysical JesusShame too, coz Matt could have really been something. He had one of the best tv matches of 2003 (vs Benoit in the US Tourny Semi-Final).

Benoit can carry pretty much anything, yes anything, I daresay he could do a *** match with a Lay-Z-Boy Loveseat. Hell he could carry me in a match, and I'd look fuckin' brilliant when it was all said and done. Mind you my offense would consist of nothing but head locks, and punches so weak Billy Gunn would envy them.

But back to the thread's topic, cause... um we never stray here. What, never? NO! Never! I agree with Asteroid Boy, at least for the general theme. Let the two people behind the "characters," and for one of those people I use that word VERY loosely (I'll leave Trish to regale us with an appropriate euphemism), do what they will. Not like we can tell them otherwise, well we can, but any expectation of them listening to us is stupid. But both Amy Dumas, and Matt Hardy need to go somewhere else with their characters. Specifically, as far the fuck away from each other as the WWE's wacky take on physics will allow. And Amy needs a Heel turn, and maybe some time studying Regal's mic time so she can maybe pic up his Mad Mic Skillz... or not. I mean what the WWE writers do to "liven" wrestlers up is basically make them do the same thing, only with air fresheners hanging around their necks.