Moreover, you can get it riced out from the factory. I'd rather drive a 30 year old minivan.

"Riced" is debatable. Toyota does offer a pretty extensive range of performance parts available as dealer add-ons, which isn't unlike the Mini...you wouldn't call that riced would you?

Also a 30-year old minivan? Don't kid yourself.

QUOTE(caster @ Apr 2 2009, 08:10 AM)

Its a decently priced cool coupe for those who first get their cars. My friend has a cleanly modded one with Rays G-Games wheels, hotchkis springs, shocks and sway bars, plus a couple of other mods, and his car actually handled very decently. Toyota offers a supercharger that adds a little more power, but if you're driving a stick a stage 0 turbo (or supercharger, my friend always talks about it) on this car is pretty quick and they can make some decent power. I agree with everyone that Toyota should actually make FUN cars to drive, but for what it is, this car is pretty cool..

In bold is the fundamental flaw in your argument. It is cool for what it is, which happens to be a Toyota...who haven't made anything cool (IS-F excepted) since the Celica and MR-S went out of production. In fact, the only thing it happens to be cool as, is a current Toyota. As anything else, it's just horribly bland and generic in every way.

The cool wall doesn't, IMO, take into account "cool for what it is," it's more of a "is it cool" in general. Also, we're looking at the stock car here, not your friend's modified car. Hell, TG proved you could modify a Lada and make it cool.