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WASHINGTON, DC -- Catholics are more supportive of gay and lesbian rights than the general public and other Christians, according to a new report released today. The new report, which is the most comprehensive portrait of Catholic attitudes on gay and lesbian issues assembled to date, also finds that seven-in-ten Catholics say that messages from America's places of worship contribute a lot (33 percent) or a little (37 percent) to higher rates of suicide among gay and lesbian youth.

"It may come as a surprise to many that rank and file Catholics are more supportive of rights for gays and lesbians than other Christians and the public," said Dr. Robert P. Jones, CEO of Public Religion Research Institute. "But the best data available paints this consistent portrait across a range of issues, including same-sex marriage, workplace non-discrimination, open military service, and adoption rights for gay and lesbian couples."

Among the key findings:

* Nearly three-quarters of Catholics favor either allowing gay and lesbian people to marry (43%) or allowing them to form civil unions (31%). Only 22% of Catholics say there should be no legal recognition of a gay couple's relationship.

* Nearly three-quarters (73%) of Catholics favor laws that would protect gay and lesbian people against discrimination in the workplace; 63% of Catholics favor allowing gay and lesbian people to serve openly in the military; and 6-in-10 (60%) Catholics favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to adopt children.

* Less than 4-in-10 Catholics give their own church top marks (a grade of an A or a B) on its handing of the issue of homosexuality; majorities of members of most other religious groups give their churches high marks.

* A majority of Catholics (56%) believe that sexual relations between two adults of the same gender is not a sin.

"The strong evidence of Catholic support for gay marriage highlights the growing acceptance in American culture of the normalcy of same-sex relationships, and further showcases ordinary Catholics' dissent from official church teaching on sexual morality," said Dr. Michelle Dillon, a panelist on the call releasing the report and chair of the Sociology Department at University of New Hampshire. "Most American Catholics believe that one can be a good Catholic and disagree with the Vatican and the bishops on issues of personal conscience; gay-marriage has clearly become another issue, along with artificial contraception and divorce and remarriage, which Catholics believe is not core to what it means to be Catholic."

The survey also found that if the pollsters specified that same sex marriage would be defined as a civil marriage (“like you get at city hall&rdquo, support among Catholics increases to 71%. As well, the survey indicates that Latino Catholics, the fastest growing part of the Catholic population, are even more supportive of gay rights than their Anglo co-religionists.

“American Catholics will be surprised by these findings,” said Professor Stephen Schneck on a press call organized by PRRI. Schneck said the results rebut the “stereotype that Catholics are more conservative on social issues.” He noted that a “striking feature” in the report is the higher interest in civil unions among Catholics. “Catholics seem to like civil unions as an alternative to same-sex marriage.” This is true even more among those RCs who attend Mass regularly.

Schneck also expressed surprise at the higher levels of support for same-sex marriage among Latino Catholics. He noted the “prevailing understanding is that Latino Catholics are much more supportive of traditional Catholic teachings on social issues.” He called the polls findings on Latino Catholic attitudes an “eye opener.”

As in most surveys, those who attend religious services more regularly tend to take more conservative stands on gay rights issues. This tracks with data that shows higher rates of church attendance among older sectors of the population and attitudes towards gay rights are hugely conditioned by age, with younger people much more accepting of gay rights.

Professor Michelle Dillon of the University of New Hampshire, who was also on the press call, said, “Catholics, even frequent Mass attenders, make up their own minds on these matters.” Dillon noted that many surveys have indicated that, “for Catholics, same sex issues are seen as personal matters of morality. Just as Catholics have made up their own minds about divorce and contraception, they view this issue in that arena of socio-sexual issues.”

Robert P. Jones, the president of RPPI, noted that in a 2008 survey, Catholics were asked, “Can you be a good Catholic even if you disagree with official Church teachings?” Eighty percent responded in the affirmative.

Look, this is kind of a duh. Roman Catholicism is pagan, and thus will conform to paganism like sodomy.

What would Jesus Bomb? He would bomb fags in a city (Genesis 19:24). That's why so many fag priests were out there, you ought to have been a priest you pervert.

The DSM Manual 3rd correct of 1987 says you have a disorder. I know they changed it because fags like you had temper trantrums, but it still stands.

You do have a mental disorder.

Praise God there is a hell for people like you.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.

The DSM Manual 3rd correct of 1987 says you have a disorder. I know they changed it because fags like you had temper trantrums, but it still stands.

You do have a mental disorder.

Says the sociopath, which last time I looked, IS A MENTAL DISORDER!

"This may shock you, but not everything in the bible is true." The only true statement ever to be uttered by Jean Chauvinism, sociopathic emotional terrorist.
"A Boss in Heaven is the best excuse for a boss on earth, therefore If God did exist, he would have to be abolished." Mikhail Bakunin
"The means in which you take,
dictate the ends in which you find yourself."
"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme leadership derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!"
No Gods, No Masters!

Look, this is kind of a duh. Roman Catholicism is pagan, and thus will conform to paganism like sodomy.

What would Jesus Bomb? He would bomb fags in a city (Genesis 19:24). That's why so many fag priests were out there, you ought to have been a priest you pervert.

The DSM Manual 3rd correct of 1987 says you have a disorder. I know they changed it because fags like you had temper trantrums, but it still stands.

You do have a mental disorder.

Praise God there is a hell for people like you.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

The catholic church is as pagan as the Calvinistic/protestant churches. You do know that Moses is based on the Egyptian myth Mises, Jesus has a lot of elements from Greek, Roman and Egyptian mythical figures (Horus, Midas) and Mary, the virgin birth and similar traditions, that Calvin adopted, are all pagan, right?

Look, this is kind of a duh. Roman Catholicism is pagan, and thus will conform to paganism like sodomy.

What would Jesus Bomb? He would bomb fags in a city (Genesis 19:24). That's why so many fag priests were out there, you ought to have been a priest you pervert.

The DSM Manual 3rd correct of 1987 says you have a disorder. I know they changed it because fags like you had temper trantrums, but it still stands.

You do have a mental disorder.

Praise God there is a hell for people like you.

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

Wow! Sounds like a nerve has been touched. I guess he gets pissed off when he finds evidence that his own outdated views are on the way out. It's okay Jean. Just sit on my lap and I'll make everything better.

Look, this is kind of a duh. Roman Catholicism is pagan, and thus will conform to paganism like sodomy.

What would Jesus Bomb? He would bomb fags in a city (Genesis 19:24). That's why so many fag priests were out there, you ought to have been a priest you pervert.

The DSM Manual 3rd correct of 1987 says you have a disorder. I know they changed it because fags like you had temper trantrums, but it still stands.

You do have a mental disorder.

Praise God there is a hell for people like you.

Thunderios wrote:

The catholic church is as pagan as the Calvinistic/protestant churches. You do know that Moses is based on the Egyptian myth Mises, Jesus has a lot of elements from Greek, Roman and Egyptian mythical figures (Horus, Midas) and Mary, the virgin birth and similar traditions, that Calvin adopted, are all pagan, right?

Thunderios, you do know that the sociopath's response will be the written equivalent to shoving his fingers in his ears and yelling "la la la I can't hear you!", which is the traditional theistic response to reality. Ahh... the things in life you can count on.

So Jean, you done dodging the questions about the obviously incorrect statements in the "Holy" Babble or are you going to pull the fingers in the ears game again?

"This may shock you, but not everything in the bible is true." The only true statement ever to be uttered by Jean Chauvinism, sociopathic emotional terrorist.
"A Boss in Heaven is the best excuse for a boss on earth, therefore If God did exist, he would have to be abolished." Mikhail Bakunin
"The means in which you take,
dictate the ends in which you find yourself."
"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme leadership derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!"
No Gods, No Masters!

This just goes to show how some religious institutions, to survive, have taken on more secular values because of the people within them. The more the people within those institutions interact and live within the larger society, the more likely they are to adopt values from the larger society. I just feel bad for the kids born into the especially cut off groups that try to isolate themselves from the dangers that free thought and open inquiry pose to their belief system/s. A lot of those kids never even get a chance in the formative years to get any other information then dogmatic bullshit, which is worse then no information at all in my opinion.

"This may shock you, but not everything in the bible is true." The only true statement ever to be uttered by Jean Chauvinism, sociopathic emotional terrorist.
"A Boss in Heaven is the best excuse for a boss on earth, therefore If God did exist, he would have to be abolished." Mikhail Bakunin
"The means in which you take,
dictate the ends in which you find yourself."
"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme leadership derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!"
No Gods, No Masters!

I'm not upset. Look, you atheists are all perverts like that fag on here. Anyway, you guys ought to stop watching Zeitgeist so much and get back to being an atheist by committing crimes and such. That movie has been refuted so badly, the producer of that movie can't open his mouth to eat his brownies because he is still shocked from his beatings,

To say Moses is based on such and such is a logical fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc. There is no evidence.

second, moses is based on the revealtion of Yahveh. He write the first 5 books of the Torah. Though Job is the oldest book in the bible (and the world).

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

A Rational Christian of Intelligence (rare)with a valid and sound justification for my epistemology and a logical refutation for those with logical fallacies and false worldviews upon their normative of thinking in retrospect to objective normative(s). This is only understood via the imago dei in which we all are.

I'm not upset. Look, you atheists are all perverts like that fag on here. Anyway, you guys ought to stop watching Zeitgeist so much and get back to being an atheist by committing crimes and such. That movie has been refuted so badly, the producer of that movie can't open his mouth to eat his brownies because he is still shocked from his beatings,

Where did the Zeitgeist movie come from? I've never seen it, personally, so I can't say anything about it.

But without irony you then say:

Jean Chauvinism, sociopathic emotional terrorist wrote:

To say Moses is based on such and such is a logical fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc. There is no evidence.

(emphasis added)

Jean Chauvinism, sociopathic emotional terrorist wrote:

second, moses is based on the revealtion of Yahveh. He write the first 5 books of the Torah. Though Job is the oldest book in the bible (and the world).

I would say the same thing to you!

"This may shock you, but not everything in the bible is true." The only true statement ever to be uttered by Jean Chauvinism, sociopathic emotional terrorist.
"A Boss in Heaven is the best excuse for a boss on earth, therefore If God did exist, he would have to be abolished." Mikhail Bakunin
"The means in which you take,
dictate the ends in which you find yourself."
"Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government! Supreme leadership derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony!"
No Gods, No Masters!

Japs are commies "fags" too and anyone who doesn't bow to Jean's god is a "fag" and Jews are "fags" too because they haven't "perfected" like our boy wonder Jean has.

I hope for Jean's sake he never ends up in prison, a pretty boy like him would have a huge problem with the "fags".

Not that he would know that prison sex is about power and control, not sexuality. Who else is into power and control? Jean's god. I could see what he claims as a god in prison raping other prisoners, so they "know their place".

Nothing wrong with being gay dip shit and your attempt to use it as a slur here makes you look like a retard.

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I'm not upset. Look, you atheists are all perverts like that fag on here. Anyway, you guys ought to stop watching Zeitgeist so much and get back to being an atheist by committing crimes and such. That movie has been refuted so badly, the producer of that movie can't open his mouth to eat his brownies because he is still shocked from his beatings,

To say Moses is based on such and such is a logical fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc. There is no evidence.

second, moses is based on the revealtion of Yahveh. He write the first 5 books of the Torah. Though Job is the oldest book in the bible (and the world).

Respectfully,

Jean Chauvin (Jude 3).

And you are so jealous that you can't do any of it...oh wait, you can. We have to worry about being accountable to the laws of men. Thanks to Paul, yo don't have to be accountable to the laws of man or God. If you're one of the elect none of that applies to you.

There is less evidence for Moses being the revelation of Yahweh so you can eat the fallacy you served up. It is far more likely (and there is more evidence) that the author of the Torah was Ezra or that the books were cobbled together from at least two manuscripts, neither written by Moses..

"I do this real moron thing, and it's called thinking. And apparently I'm not a very good American because I like to form my own opinions."
— George Carlin

And you are so jealous that you can't do any of it...oh wait, you can. We have to worry about being accountable to the laws of men. Thanks to Paul, yo don't have to be accountable to the laws of man or God. If you're one of the elect none of that applies to you.

There is less evidence for Moses being the revelation of Yahweh so you can eat the fallacy you served up. It is far more likely (and there is more evidence) that the author of the Torah was Ezra or that the books were cobbled together from at least two manuscripts, neither written by Moses..

What are you talking about? I just saw a movie with Moses setting a bush on fire, he was a striper from L.A. and this MILF had an itchy bush... well you can use your imagination, but to say that there's less evidence for Moses? You can probably catch his shows every weekend at 7 PM... check mate atheist!

"Don't seek these laws to understand. Only the mad can comprehend..." -- George Cosbuc