We have very interesting results of one Dragiçeviq from the tribe of Piperi. Dragiçeviq belongs to haplogroup R1b-L23>BY611>Z2705>Y32147, the difference between Dragiçeviq (Piper) and Agoviq (Kelmend) is GD= 15/111. Editors from the Forum of Poreklo believe there is some connection between the tribes of Piperi and Kelmendi.

We have very interesting results of one Dragiçeviq from the tribe of Piperi. Dragiçeviq belongs to haplogroup R1b-L23>BY611>Z2705>Y32147, the difference between Dragiçeviq (Piper) and Agoviq (Kelmend) is GD= 15/111. Editors from the Forum of Poreklo believe there is some connection between the tribes of Piperi and Kelmendi.

We have very interesting results of one Dragiçeviq from the tribe of Piperi. Dragiçeviq belongs to haplogroup R1b-L23>BY611>Z2705>Y32147, the difference between Dragiçeviq (Piper) and Agoviq (Kelmend) is GD= 15/111. Editors from the Forum of Poreklo believe there is some connection between the tribes of Piperi and Kelmendi.

I just saw on Poreklo that Dragiceviq tested negative for Y32147, though he is Z2705+ and BY38894+. This would debunk the theory that they are connected to the R1b found among Kelmendi tribesmen which is Y32147+.

I just saw on Poreklo that Dragiceviq tested negative for Y32147, though he is Z2705+ and BY38894+. This would debunk the theory that they are connected to the R1b found among Kelmendi tribesmen which is Y32147+.

Yes, his results were published on the Yfull tree. Most editors from the forum Poreklo thought Dragiçeviq would belong to the branches of Y32147+, Y82919 as Agoviq from Bihor, but there was a reversal. I compared my markers with markers from Dragiçeviq GD=7/37, that's a markers:DYS390, DYS459, DYS447, DYS576, DYS570, CDY, DYS442. According to Nevgen, me and Dragiçeviq had a common ancestor about 45 generations ago.

Yes, his results were published on the Yfull tree. Most editors from the forum Poreklo thought Dragiçeviq would belong to the branches of Y32147+, Y82919 as Agoviq from Bihor, but there was a reversal. I compared my markers with markers from Dragiçeviq GD=7/37, that's a markers:DYS390, DYS459, DYS447, DYS576, DYS570, CDY, DYS442. According to Nevgen, me and Dragiçeviq had a common ancestor about 45 generations ago.[ig]https://i.imgur.com/WdMKRvt.jpg[/img]

I see. I would say that the R-Y32147 Kelmendi samples may turn out to be R-Y82919 like Agovic, this is based on the how the Agovici believe to originate from Selce in Kelmend. The R-Y32147 guy from Nikc has taken a Dante labs test so we will see if they are Y82919 like Agovic.

I see. I would say that the R-Y32147 Kelmendi samples may turn out to be R-Y82919 like Agovic, this is based on the how the Agovici believe to originate from Selce in Kelmend. The R-Y32147 guy from Nikc has taken a Dante labs test so we will see if they are Y82919 like Agovic.

They should belong to the same branch as Agoviq, because Agoviq and Muriq from Rugova differ only on one marker of 37 markers GD=1/37.