Palmer and Suggs go way back

Try though he may, Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs just can’t escape Raiders quarterback Carson Palmer, when you think it might be Palmer the one trying to get away from Suggs.
They played against each other their entire college careers, Palmer and USC and Suggs at Arizona State. Palmer went No. 1 overall in the 2003 NFL draft to the Cincinnati Bengals. The Ravens selected Suggs with the 10th pick.
Palmer faced Suggs and the Ravens 13 times from 2004-10 — Palmer didn’t play his rookie season — with Palmer beating the Ravens nine times.
“This guy has kind of tortured me through all my college and professional career,” Suggs said in a conference call with Bay Area media Wednesday. “I’m very aware of the talent. I know he can make every throw. If you ask me, he’s very highly underrated. He’s definitely one of the premier quarterbacks in the league.”
Suggs said he doesn’t fear any quarterback, yet “I’m always worried when I play Carson Palmer.”
With good reason, too. Palmer won those nine games against Suggs and the Ravens while having only three passes intercepted. The Ravens intercepted Palmer eight times in the four games they beat Palmer.
Ravens coach John Harbaugh also is quite impressed with the Palmer that he coached against the past five seasons.
“First of all, he’s real smart,” Harbaugh said. “He’s done a great job of reading coverages and knowing where to go with the ball; that’s No. 1. Number two, he’s got this incredible arm. He can make every throw. He’s kind of a fearless competitor. Stands in there tough and he puts it in there, and that’s pretty much the criteria for a great quarterback.”
Suggs is one of the guys Palmer always takes into account whenever he plays the Ravens. That Suggs is playing this season comes as somewhat of a surprise, given he ruptured his Achilles during the offseason.
“It’s amazing he is playing,” Palmer said. “I remember when it happened, I remember thinking, ‘Alright, great, that sucks for Terrell, but he’ll be out by the time we get out in Baltimore.’ Sure enough, he was playing 2 or 3 weeks ago against Houston.
“That’s the type of guy he is. He’s an extremely hard worker. He’s going to come back early, and just when you doubt him, he proves people wrong. I played against him for 15 years now, a phenomenal football player, phenomenal against the pass and phenomenal against the pass–there aren’t a lot of guys who are good at both, like he is. I don’t know if there is another one, as good as he is, at playing them both.”

— The Raiders last played the Ravens in 2008, when JaMarcus Russell was the quarterback, Justin Fargas the primary running back, Javon Walker a starting receiver and so on.
Much has changed in the past three seasons. Yet, one thing remains constant, in Suggs’ opinion.
“Talent,” Suggs said. “Al (Davis) has always done a tremendous job of bringing in the biggest and the scariest guys. They always had tremendous talent, but what (they) have done over there is just stack the talent a little bit more. (They) definitely got weapons that Carson can work with.”
Of the 53 players on Oakland’s roster that day, Oct. 26, 2008, only eight remain on today’s roster, including two that started that game: guard Cooper Carlisle and defensive tackle Tommy Kelly.
The six other players still wearing a Raiders uniform now are: punter Shane Lechler, kicker Sebastian Janikowski, long-snapper Jon Condo, running back Darren McFadden, free safety Michael Huff and strong safety Tyvon Branch.

— The Ravens last lost a regular-season home game late in the 2010 season. Their streak has reached an NFL-best 14 straight regular-season home victories, including a 4-0 mark this season.
To that end, Harbaugh said, the Ravens take the field with an air about them, knowing that good things happen when they play in front of their own fans.
“There is probably a confidence level with that, because we’ve had some positive experiences,” Harbaugh said. “There’s been a lot of big games and tough games in that, that just kind of set that tone a little bit. But every game stands on its own two feet.”
That last sentence is what the Raiders are counting upon, that the previous 14 wins by the Ravens at their place don’t count for much when the Raiders play there Sunday.

— Allen reiterated that he isn’t prepared to make a determination on the status of injured players McFadden, running back Mike Goodson and defensive tackle Richard Seymour until after practice Friday.
None of those three practiced today. Allen said McFadden and Goodson are wearing protective boots as a result of their high-ankle sprains.
Coincidentally, rookie Jeremy Stewart said he is preparing this week as if he is going to be signed from the practice squad and activated for Sunday’s game.
“Yeah, they said it’s a possibility,” Stewart said. “They basically told me to be ready, and we’ll see what happens.”
Stewart said he has taken a similar approach since he signed with the Raiders.
“You have to approach every day like you’re going to be the guy starting. So, since I’ve gotten here I’ve been preparing for my opportunity. So, if it presents itself this weekend, I’ll be ready.”
He rushed for 257 yards on only 55 carries his final season at Stanford. He also scored 10 touchdowns on 62 touches that season.
“I feel like I’m a good finisher,” Stewart said. “I can find the end zone.”
Taiwan Jones and Marcel Reece are splitting the reps in practice this week. Like Palmer, offensive coordinator Greg Knapp said he is eager to see what Jones can do in a game.
“Pure speed, it’s one of the fastest I’ve been around,” Knapp said of Jones, “because he has that ability to burst and separate right away. That trait is not coachable, so he does have that ability to separate real fast which is a unique quality to have.”
Knapp said injuries suffered by Jones this season cost him some valuable practice time, which set him back in terms of getting down his assignments on each play. Ball-security issues also are a concern.

— Right offensive tackle Khalif Barnes said he feels pretty good in his return from a groin injury. Yet, he doesn’t sound overly optimistic about playing Sunday.
“Obviously I’ve got some kinks to get out, but you’ll get those out the more you’re on the field,” Barnes said. “Each day that goes by, the more familiar I get with stuff, the muscle memory starts coming back, and that’s how I’m approaching it.”
Barnes said he feels as if he needs more time to get back up to speed. That’s understandable considering he didn’t practice for more than seven weeks after suffering a groin injury that required surgery.
Allen said Barnes, Willie Smith and Tony Bergstrom are taking reps at right offensive tackle in practice this week. It’s possible that Allen will announce the starter for the Ravens game as soon as Friday.

— Michael Huff is going to remain at cornerback for the Ravens game, Allen said.
Ron Bartell is expected to be activated Saturday and play Sunday for the first time since he suffered a shoulder injury in the regular-season opener.
Allen said the plan is to play Bartell as much as Bartell can handle. With Bartell and Huff at cornerback, that likely means less playing time for Pat Lee and Phillip Adams.

— Allen said Seymour was in no shape to practice Thursday, that Seymour “couldn’t practice today if he had to.”
That means Desmond Bryant, Lamaar Houston and Christo Bilukidi might be in for more playing time inside if Seymour isn’t healthy enough to play Sunday. Dave Tollefson is another player that can move inside for a few downs here and there, if needed.

— The Raiders burned one of their 14 allotted practices in pads Wednesday, Allen said. They did so as a means of working on tackling on the heels of a lackluster performance against the Buccaneers.

Steve Corkran

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DMAC Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
If you come to this blog, only to talk Raider football, than clearly your in the wrong blog.
This is a place where people discuss whatever they want, not just football. (if you haven’t noticed)
Its 2 fk’n funny how so many people get caught up w/ the trolls.
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Some folks here are just so emotional and crave attention like women, Mcfaggen20 and Raider Riff to name a few and it seems Mistic has broken down also.

Dakota

If Jerry and Steve changed this to just a boring football blog where people have to keep to one subject and be nice to each other, this place would die, and one of them would lose their job.

If you don’t like it, find a different blog!

MiamiRaider78

Andrew Luck is incredible. I keep seeing him make perfect deep passes off of his back foot, like nothing.

mcfadden20.

You guys don’t see something is troubling with this

When people say Palmer is better than Campbell

Mistic points out the record and says things like Campbell’s arm open up running lanes for our RB to run through , the reason why we were a good running team

When people go by Mistic’s Record and say things like this

Luck >> Griffin

Now the record doesn’t matter to him , it’s all about some athletic abilities etc etc

Dan78

MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Get Phil some peyote and his special coaching high chair and he’ll come back.
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I’m sure there is a way Jennie can convince Phil to come back 😉

DMAC

Mistic

I’m born and raised in East Oakland.
(Martin and Grant?)
What about the black on black crime?
The Latino on Latino crime? Happens all the time.
I don’t see anyone stepping up the plate and trying to make a difference in the community.

mcfadden20.

eastoaklandraider Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 10:59 am

DMAC Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
If you come to this blog, only to talk Raider football, than clearly your in the wrong blog.
This is a place where people discuss whatever they want, not just football. (if you haven’t noticed)
Its 2 fk’n funny how so many people get caught up w/ the trolls.
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Some folks here are just so emotional and crave attention like women, Mcfaggen20 and Raider Riff to name a few and it seems Mistic has broken down also.

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Some people just can’t take any one disagreeing with them, so they will resort to name calling and other childish stuff to say to the person who’s not on the same page as he is

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

November 9th, 2012 at 10:42 am

Mistic just need to shutup and talk about Raiders, he worry too much about stuff he shouldn’t worry about , he’s all consumed in Palmer hate and his love for “wave of futures”” talk about something else for once, maybe people will start liking you
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“when you throw a stone into a pack of dogs the one that yelps is the one that got hit”

-The Messenger Elijah Muhammad circa 1962

you say this because you have been repeatedly exposed for saying some of the most racist things on this blog. remember saying this?

“black qb’s suck they only win with a running game”

you categorized all black men that play qb into oone group and disparaged them. this clealry why you foam at the mouth any time tp6 rgIII or cam newton come up. You told on yourself.

Dakota

655.Dan78 Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 11:00 am
MiamiRaider78 Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 10:57 am
Get Phil some peyote and his special coaching high chair and he’ll come back.
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I’m sure there is a way Jennie can convince Phil to come back

Luck is running a pro offense not a college one the coach made especially for him. Luck already has the training wheels off the bike while RG111 is still trying to ride it with the training wheels on.

you are dead wrong on that one!

eastoaklandraider

2romes Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 10:51 am
C’mom Eastoak, you came down pretty hard on someone that is trying to do what he can to stop stupid stuff from going on here. This after, this is suppose to be a blog were Raiders fans can agree and disagree about Raider football. He was just trying to keep the Raider fans close to that topic. Peace out Raider brothers and sisters.
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I dont think I came down hard at all, if the mods arent doing anything to change this after all this time how can he or anybody else? I mean just ignore it and move on I think thats what any sensible person would do, but I do understand getting caught up every now and again.

dr_robert

For crying out loud missdick–everything u say is laced with pro-black, anti-white rhetoric. Being a fan is one thing. But how many second and third rate black qb’s gave u obssessed about? Being rabidly pro-black is tantamount to being racist cuz ur so blindly about ur own race, that u can’t see reality.

Kids getting killed by white guys cuz they’re afraid of black people? U think that is like this blog? That’s obscene and u should be ashamed of urself for using a tragedy like that.

And u think everyone here is conspiring to hide the white supremacy? U need to see a shrink man.

mcfadden20.

“black qb’s suck they only win with a running game”

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You have problem with me saying that? well then don’t bring up your BS like “they are wave of the future and don’t be hypocritical like when people say Palmer is better than JC then you point to the record and say JC is better, then when people say Luck is better than Griffin then all of a sudden record doesn’t matter , it’s all about some other stuff”

MiamiRaider78

Stephen A is reporting that the Lakers aren’t ruling out bringing back Phil and that it will either be Phil or Brian Shaw.

Peyote Phil! Fingers crossed

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

DMAC Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 11:01 am

Mistic

I’m born and raised in East Oakland.
(Martin and Grant?)
What about the black on black crime?
The Latino on Latino crime? Happens all the time.
I don’t see anyone stepping up the plate and trying to make a difference in the community.
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what about it? My point is the racism on this blog. I dont see latinos and black calling each other ni@@ers or sp@cs to often, do you?

No this is about people attacking blacks on the sports blag simple and plain.

Just Fire Baby

for the record rgIII is light years better than luck he can do things luck couldnt dream of on his wildest acid trips

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LMAO!!

One is getting better, one has already started to get worse.

RGIII is light years away from being Mark Rypien.

Dakota

November 08, 2012

Alan Alda Replacing Phil Jackson At Schwab IMPACT
In a last-minute development, actor Alan Alda will replace famed basketball coach Phil Jackson as the keynote speaker on the closing day of the annual Schwab Advisor Services IMPACT conference in Chicago next week, according to Bernie Clark, executive vice president, national sales manager of Schwab Advisor Services.

Source: Financial Advisor Mag….

….very interesting….Phil cancels this appearance at the last minute and then the Lakers fire Brown….WOW, I think I just got the scoop baby!

Dakota

LET ME REPEAT:

November 08, 2012

Alan Alda Replacing Phil Jackson At Schwab IMPACT
In a last-minute development, actor Alan Alda will replace famed basketball coach Phil Jackson as the keynote speaker on the closing day of the annual Schwab Advisor Services IMPACT conference in Chicago next week, according to Bernie Clark, executive vice president, national sales manager of Schwab Advisor Services.

Source: Financial Advisor Mag….

….very interesting….Phil cancels this appearance at the last minute and then the Lakers fire Brown….WOW, I think I just got the scoop baby!

MiamiRaider78

Way to go Dakota! =)

dr_robert

Elijah Muhammad? Oh geez. Guess we know where the pro-black anti-white nonsense comes from. Ur living in a dead era my man. There’s a black man running this country. Get with the times. For a guy who talks about the future all the time, ur living in the past. Wake up.

mcfadden20.

Mistic is a hypocrite and he calls other people racists when he is the one racist in here

If I were a GM and had a choice between them, it would be a very difficult decision.

I prefer Luck as a pure passer, but not by much. I think Luck is better in the pocket. RG3, on the other hand, has more intangibles. His ability to extend a play is superb. There’s nothing he doesn’t do well.

I think they’re both great players.

Put a gun to my head and I go with Luck long term.

The reason being that he has better size and may prove to be more durable.

Only wish that a QB of their caliber was available when we had the number one overall.

Instead we got JaMoron.

boss01

Mcfadden and Goodson both out, didn’t make the trip.

Time to see what the Raiders have in Taiwan. He is one fumble away from the Arena league.

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

eastoaklandraider Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 10:55 am

You can just to ignore it that is your right, I choose to call it out. as long as trayvone martin and oscar grant are a reality than when i detect symptoms of this illness it will be exposed.
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Have at it then brah its cool wit me, but dont compare this to Oscar Grant and Trayvone Martin, please.
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you have to bra it is a symptom of the same illness.

were grant and martin viewed as n@ggers by their killers?

Of course they were, that is why it was ok to smoke them in cold blood in their eyes.

remember the N@ggers are not men according to white supremacy, they are not human so you ar free to torture rape, kill or enslave them.

sorry but it is the root and common idea that is shared between those race hating killers, and some of the people that post trash in here.

DMAC

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 11:07 am

DMAC Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 11:01 am

Mistic

I’m born and raised in East Oakland.
(Martin and Grant?)
What about the black on black crime?
The Latino on Latino crime? Happens all the time.
I don’t see anyone stepping up the plate and trying to make a difference in the community.
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what about it? My point is the racism on this blog. I dont see latinos and black calling each other ni@@ers or sp@cs to often, do you?

No this is about people attacking blacks on the sports blag simple and plain.
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You brought up Martin and Grant.
Not I.

Dakota

I doubt the Lakers would fire Brown unless they had a big gun to replace him with right away.

DMAC Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
If you come to this blog, only to talk Raider football, than clearly your in the wrong blog.
This is a place where people discuss whatever they want, not just football. (if you haven’t noticed)
Its 2 fk’n funny how so many people get caught up w/ the trolls.
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Some folks here are just so emotional and crave attention like women, Mcfaggen20 and Raider Riff to name a few and it seems Mistic has broken down also.

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Some people just can’t take any one disagreeing with them, so they will resort to name calling and other childish stuff to say to the person who’s not on the same page as he is
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a lot of people disagree with my liking for Hue but we just disagree and move on and I can name them Duck,Seybush,JFB, but its dumbasses like you that irk me because your just sooooooo dam dumb and your a follower and crave attention you remind of someone who got picked on as a kid in school. couldnt get a date for the prom Mcfaggen20 lol awwwww.

mcfadden20.

dr_robert Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 11:14 am

Mistic– address it!

Jv is better than Palmer cuz of wins.

But rg3 is still better than luck despite record.

Hypocrite EXPOSED!

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Exactly, and he wants to call us racists? LMFAO

DMAC

Dakota Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 11:13 am

I doubt the Lakers would fire Brown unless they had a big gun to replace him with right away.
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DMAC Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 10:54 am
If you come to this blog, only to talk Raider football, than clearly your in the wrong blog.
This is a place where people discuss whatever they want, not just football. (if you haven’t noticed)
Its 2 fk’n funny how so many people get caught up w/ the trolls.
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Some folks here are just so emotional and crave attention like women, Mcfaggen20 and Raider Riff to name a few and it seems Mistic has broken down also.

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Some people just can’t take any one disagreeing with them, so they will resort to name calling and other childish stuff to say to the person who’s not on the same page as he is
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a lot of people disagree with my liking for Hue but we just disagree and move on and I can name them Duck,Seybush,JFB, but its dumbasses like you that irk me because your just sooooooo dam dumb and your a follower and crave attention you remind of someone who got picked on as a kid in school. couldnt get a date for the prom Mcfaggen20 lol awwwww.

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Yet i still respect you in posts and don’t stoop to name calling , but i guess, it must be the norm for grown up adults , to call other guys childish names on a football blog, keep it coming EastOaklandRaider

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

mcfadden20. Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 10:55 am

this is exactly what i mean by subtle racism.

what does pitting rgIII against luck have to do with what i posted above?

You only see race it is your preoccupation.

for the record rgIII is light years better than luck he can do things luck couldnt dream of on his wildest acid trips

luck is also one of my favorite young qbs to watch

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This is what makes people mad, when it comes to Palmer and JC>>> you never admit Palmer is light years ahead of him and can do things JC can’t even imagine in his dreams and you point out to the record ..

yet when some one claims Luck is better than Griffin , the record doesn’t matter all of a sudden
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Luck is running a pro offense not a college one the coach made especially for him. Luck already has the training wheels off the bike while RG111 is still trying to ride it with the training wheels on.

you are dead wrong on that one!

Dakota

686.DMAC Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am

I forgot to thank all Faker fans for sending Jerry West up North.
Thanx fellas
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Eventually he might trade your best player to us for a happy meal and a pair of dirty socks signed by Kurt Rambis…..Jerry West will always be a Laker at heart.

MiamiRaider78

Your welcome DMAC. How many championships have you won since West arrived? lol

Mbenga’s gonna karate chop your neck off!

DMAC

Dakota Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 11:21 am

686.DMAC Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 11:19 am

I forgot to thank all Faker fans for sending Jerry West up North.
Thanx fellas
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Eventually he might trade your best player to us for a happy meal and a pair of dirty socks signed by Kurt Rambis…..Jerry West will always be a Laker at heart.
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You won’t admit it, but West is missed in LA.

eastoaklandraider

you have to bra it is a symptom of the same illness.

were grant and martin viewed as n@ggers by their killers?

Of course they were, that is why it was ok to smoke them in cold blood in their eyes.

remember the N@ggers are not men according to white supremacy, they are not human so you ar free to torture rape, kill or enslave them.

sorry but it is the root and common idea that is shared between those race hating killers, and some of the people that post trash in here.
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Look brah, Martin and Grant are DEAD not coming back, their families will be in mourning until they die. Nobody’s dead on this blog. Dont compare it show some respect for those families.

RAIDERMAN99

The Messenger Elijah Muhammad circa 1962
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Was it the ‘messenger’ that believed the white ‘devil’ was created in a test tube by a brilliant African scientist ? The name Yacub or something like that ?

I’ve heard that some of the ‘messenger’s’ followers believe he is orbiting the planet in a space ship waiting for the right moment to return. Any truth to that ?

inonewordraider

this is exactly what i mean by subtle racism.

what does pitting rgIII against luck have to do with what i posted above?

You only see race it is your preoccupation.

for the record rgIII is light years better than luck he can do things luck couldnt dream of on his wildest acid trips

luck is also one of my favorite young qbs to watch
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you said luck isn’t on the same planet as rgIII so i’m calling you out on it. you’re obviously wrong so now you want to call it racism. if anyone is racist it’s you for saying rgIII is that much better than andrew when when the only glaring difference is wins and skin color. Same thing saying the “new wave” is so much more athletic when #’s tell a different story. Or Jc being better than palmer when eye test and gms tell a different story

mcfadden20.

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 11:17 am

mcfadden20. Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 10:55 am

this is exactly what i mean by subtle racism.

what does pitting rgIII against luck have to do with what i posted above?

You only see race it is your preoccupation.

for the record rgIII is light years better than luck he can do things luck couldnt dream of on his wildest acid trips

luck is also one of my favorite young qbs to watch

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This is what makes people mad, when it comes to Palmer and JC>>> you never admit Palmer is light years ahead of him and can do things JC can’t even imagine in his dreams and you point out to the record ..

yet when some one claims Luck is better than Griffin , the record doesn’t matter all of a sudden
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Ok man, what ever you want to say to make youself feel better , if it doesn’t make you a hyprocrite after saying things like JC is better than Palmer because 12-7 > 7-11 , Griffin is better than Luck , because of some athletic ability , but record doesn’t matter , but it makes me a racist for saying all black qb’s suck , they are nothing with out running game just once after getting tired of you bringing up other qbs we don’t care about because they don’t play for us and constantly degrading everything Palmer does, and if you want me to call racist for it , go ahead, and what ever you say does not make you hypocrite then okay go ahead , believe that too , no body can compete with ignorance

I forgot to thank all Faker fans for sending Jerry West up North.
Thanx fellas
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Eventually he might trade your best player to us for a happy meal and a pair of dirty socks signed by Kurt Rambis…..Jerry West will always be a Laker at heart.
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You won’t admit it, but West is missed in LA.
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Kupchack has not done so bad since West left 😉

Mistic1 Tha Supavillain

Silverandblack666 Says:
November 9th, 2012 at 11:05 am

Luck understands the game at a level RG111 never will.

Luck is running a pro offense not a college one the coach made especially for him. Luck already has the training wheels off the bike while RG111 is still trying to ride it with the training wheels on.

you are dead wrong on that one!
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luck had the benefit of running david shaw/ harbaghs nfl offense throughout his college career. he is as nfl ready as anybody ever has been. the colt offense does many of the same things as luk did in college. luck has reggie wayne, add this to the fact that he is a great player and presto instant impact. The colts have a far better defense and this is why luck has 6 wins.

Griffin runs a totaly differnt offense. he as adapted to the wco incredibly well and is playing excellent football. he has a porous o line in front of him, his top 2 target garcon and davis are out for the season garcon played 1 quarter of football. The redskin defense is awful and has coughed up leads in several games , and that is why griffin has only 3 wins.

griffin has a far bigger arm he is far more mobile and can read a defense jsut as well as luck or peyton manning or tom brady, hence the 3 interceptions.

luck has 15 tds, 16 turn overs

griffin 16 tds 5 turn overs

dont try and make this about race, i am a fan of both

dr_robert

Mistic–ur obscene. First of all u have no idea how things really are. Killings like that come from a deep seated fear of black crime. Not from some cold blooded “I’ll murder him cuz he’s black and no one will care” bull. Ur just a moron. I feel sorry for u. Ur life must be miserable. Ur mind is warped. Too much archaic Malcolm x stuff floating around upstairs. And he was killed by his own people for realizing the militant stuff was garbage.

Plunketthead

#597 eastoak aint that the truth. I am a layabout and worthless in general so I have a good reason for being here 24/7 and not having a life but I admit it.

Many here claim to have a life with accesories like a family and high paying jobs yet they spend more time here then I do.