I know it's a legal matter and the issue is pending, but just apologize for being an immature jackass Rolando.

I don't care what Coach Allen says, McKenzie is looking over FA LBs as we sit here. I have said this before, it's time to cut ties with McClain. He is undisciplined, often out of place, and simply is not a smart football player (at this point of his career at least). I am done with "project" players. Cut this ass and move on.

I have to strongly disagree. You may be done with him, but by no means do I believe the organization should be. I think he needs to have a shot in the new regime with the new coaches and new philosophy. He has raw talent, his play hasn't been horribly bad, and under all the coaching changes hasn't had a real shot at learning a real system. Give the kid a chance to be disciplined and time to grow/learn from it. If he doesn't, then cut ties. People need to get off their moral high horses and stop being so quick to throw others under the bus. I'm not defending his actions at all, I just believe he needs a chance under the new Raiders.

I understand where you're coming from but not for me, he's a shithead. I'm not on a moral high horse either. Just my opinion. What has he done? Pile drive a St. Louis Ram?? I'll be the first to admit I am wrong if he pans out. He's an immature child and for this fan, I don't want him on our team. Not that I have really have a say anyway

I know he hasn't done much, but he hasn't been absolutely piss poor either. I mean realistically, many of our first rounders hadn't/haven't panned out well learning under Davis in his last few years with us. The amount of penalties we've racked up every season speaks volumes as to the lack of discipline these players received over the past few years. So, am I surprised to see the bullshit some of our younger, probably highly misguided youngsters with fat contracts get into? Hell no, I almost expect it. Now that we have leaders in the driver's seat that are willing to put their foot down (McKenzie, Allen) and not play favorites because X player was given a fat check and may be a freak of nature (Davis Sr.), then we see what really happens in the aftermath X player's immature actions. I don't even believe we have the personal to pull off a 3-4, let alone a 4-3 for a whole season, so he must stay until we have a legit replacement and LB corp to keep the opposing RB's at bey. Which we never seem to accomplish.

I know it's a legal matter and the issue is pending, but just apologize for being an immature jackass Rolando.

I don't care what Coach Allen says, McKenzie is looking over FA LBs as we sit here. I have said this before, it's time to cut ties with McClain. He is undisciplined, often out of place, and simply is not a smart football player (at this point of his career at least). I am done with "project" players. Cut this ass and move on.

I have to strongly disagree. You may be done with him, but by no means do I believe the organization should be. I think he needs to have a shot in the new regime with the new coaches and new philosophy. He has raw talent, his play hasn't been horribly bad, and under all the coaching changes hasn't had a real shot at learning a real system. Give the kid a chance to be disciplined and time to grow/learn from it. If he doesn't, then cut ties. People need to get off their moral high horses and stop being so quick to throw others under the bus. I'm not defending his actions at all, I just believe he needs a chance under the new Raiders.

I understand where you're coming from but not for me, he's a shithead. I'm not on a moral high horse either. Just my opinion. What has he done? Pile drive a St. Louis Ram?? I'll be the first to admit I am wrong if he pans out. He's an immature child and for this fan, I don't want him on our team. Not that I have really have a say anyway

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I know it's a legal matter and the issue is pending, but just apologize for being an immature jackass Rolando.

I don't care what Coach Allen says, McKenzie is looking over FA LBs as we sit here. I have said this before, it's time to cut ties with McClain. He is undisciplined, often out of place, and simply is not a smart football player (at this point of his career at least). I am done with "project" players. Cut this ass and move on.

I have to strongly disagree. You may be done with him, but by no means do I believe the organization should be. I think he needs to have a shot in the new regime with the new coaches and new philosophy. He has raw talent, his play hasn't been horribly bad, and under all the coaching changes hasn't had a real shot at learning a real system. Give the kid a chance to be disciplined and time to grow/learn from it. If he doesn't, then cut ties. People need to get off their moral high horses and stop being so quick to throw others under the bus. I'm not defending his actions at all, I just believe he needs a chance under the new Raiders.

I know it's a legal matter and the issue is pending, but just apologize for being an immature jackass Rolando.

I don't care what Coach Allen says, McKenzie is looking over FA LBs as we sit here. I have said this before, it's time to cut ties with McClain. He is undisciplined, often out of place, and simply is not a smart football player (at this point of his career at least). I am done with "project" players. Cut this ass and move on.

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Rolando McClain case is ridiculous and all about money, lawyer saysProFootballTalk.comMcClain’s lawyer says the jury trial will show that no charges ever should have been brought against McClain in the first place...Rolando did very little, if anything, wrong. He certainly didn’t do anything criminal.

McClain didn’t say anything, either at the trial or to reporters covering his trial, to explain how it is that a situation in which he did little if anything wrong led to a judge convicting him of third-degree assault, reckless endangerment, menacing, and unlawful discharge of a firearm. But Steinberg suggested that the man who accused McClain of pulling a gun and shooting it near his head was motivated by trying to get his hands on McClain’s money.

THIS GUY IS PURE PUNK!!!!! HE MUST GET THE HELL OUT OF OAKLAND IF THIS WAS HIS PUNK ASS! WHAT A FOOL AND MORE THAN THAT............ BEATING A SO CALLED FRIEND THAT REFUSED TO FIGHT..... FUCK HIM! IM DONE WITH THIS KIND OF CHILDISH BULLLLLLLSHIT!

The guy (white t-shirt) that is doing the punching isn't McClain. That guy is the co-defendant (Jadoriaus Willingham) who is reportedly going to testify against McClain. McClain is only shown a couple of times in the video, and the only thing it shows him doing is standing around or walking.....except for one part where it says he is "taunting" the beating victim while they are standing inside the front door of the house. McClain is the tallest one, wearing a black hat and silver/black jacket with light colored sweat pants. The video doesn't show McClain doing anything illegal, but it shows that he was definitely hanging out with a bunch of "punks" as you said.Watch the video in this news report, because they explain a lot more during and after they play the video:http://whnt.com/2012/05/16/mcclain-willingham-set-to-stand-trial-in-decatur-on-charges-from-2011-attack/

THIS GUY IS PURE PUNK!!!!! HE MUST GET THE HELL OUT OF OAKLAND IF THIS WAS HIS PUNK ASS! WHAT A FOOL AND MORE THAN THAT............ BEATING A SO CALLED FRIEND THAT REFUSED TO FIGHT..... FUCK HIM! IM DONE WITH THIS KIND OF CHILDISH BULLLLLLLSHIT!

Well, I just watched the video of the McClain *incident*... its submitted anonymously so take that for whatever you want- and Rolando seems to be edited out of most of the video. I wasn't there but here's my take - at first observation I would take these guys for the clowns they are, not the entourage of a starting MLB for the Oakland Raiders. I just have ZERO tolerance for jerk-offs like this. No thoughts to the future, just live in the moment - infantile, juvenile thinking...............My prediction - unless McClain has a MONSTER, and I mean F*N HUGE, season this year, he not only loses his starting spot by season's end but he is GONE...see ya...outta here. I just think he may be gone regardless, they're just waiting for the smoke to clear. From what I've gathered, Reggie and Dennis have little patience for this shit. I for one am glad. I am so tired of fuckheads on our team. McClain is replaceable and he is very undisciplined. More so, he is fucking dumb. His football IQ is shit. Talent can only get you so far, I want guys that have desire/heart as well as athletic skills.

We could shitcan him now and lose the distraction he is bringing. I wouldn't lose a bit of sleep.

His stupid, smiling dumb-fuck face when he was initially arrested was enough for me. Fuck this guy.

Rant over.

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What kind of Raider off-season is this? No crazy draft picks, no arrests (except one -- thank you, DHB), no idiots waking up drunk and beat up in Vegas, no giant contracts offered to crappy players (thank you, Javon, for so many memories), no purple drank ... nothing! All we've gotten are logical draft picks, well-planned signings, and a team that seems to run ... according to plan. That's not the Raiders! I need drama, I need insanity, I need shit to complain about! Even the owner going to a Clippers game got explained away as not a threat that the team would leave. What?? The owner having a nice interview with the local media and saying he wants to stay in Oakland?? God help me. At this rate, we'll start winning, and where's the fun in that? ... no ... wait ... oh yeah, that is fun. it's been a while since i've seen it with any regularity, but i seem to remember it being fun. didn't we used to, like, win more than we lost? that used to happen, right? so ... maybe that could happen again, if this whole "run the team like a professional organization" thing works out? well ... can we still have a little drama? can a player knock up a cheerleader or something? or like in cincinnati, can one of the cheerleaders be a high school teacher who gets busted for having sex with her students? that would be hilarious. please. throw me a bone here.

Hey Robert...the report about Mark Davis being at that Clippers game that you mentioned. I saw a later article where Mark Davis was asked about that, and he said it was completely false. He said he does have season tickets for the Clippers, as well as for the Warriors....but was not at that game sitting with the stadium developer guy. Maybe it was a false report....or maybe our owner was LYING. There's your possible drama!

a raider owner seen out in public? that's already crazy. when was al ever seen going anywhere besides raider HQ and a raider game?

What kind of Raider off-season is this? No crazy draft picks, no arrests (except one -- thank you, DHB), no idiots waking up drunk and beat up in Vegas, no giant contracts offered to crappy players (thank you, Javon, for so many memories), no purple drank ... nothing! All we've gotten are logical draft picks, well-planned signings, and a team that seems to run ... according to plan. That's not the Raiders! I need drama, I need insanity, I need shit to complain about! Even the owner going to a Clippers game got explained away as not a threat that the team would leave. What?? The owner having a nice interview with the local media and saying he wants to stay in Oakland?? God help me. At this rate, we'll start winning, and where's the fun in that? ... no ... wait ... oh yeah, that is fun. it's been a while since i've seen it with any regularity, but i seem to remember it being fun. didn't we used to, like, win more than we lost? that used to happen, right? so ... maybe that could happen again, if this whole "run the team like a professional organization" thing works out? well ... can we still have a little drama? can a player knock up a cheerleader or something? or like in cincinnati, can one of the cheerleaders be a high school teacher who gets busted for having sex with her students? that would be hilarious. please. throw me a bone here.

More scrutiny needs to be pointed at Raiders picking up the JETS Head scout.

Just because someone is from New York, doesn't make him good. This scout must have had rocks in his head to tell Rex Ryan to move up and take Mark Sanchez.

The offseason is certainly a change, But if the quietness doesn't translate to wins (8-8 or better) then I think I'd prefer the roller coaster ride of a turbulent offseason & bring in Character Guys to help us get the wins.