How Jerry Seinfeld’s Position On Political Correctness Is Critical For Comedy’s Future

Jerry Seinfeld has been active and successful in comedy on both stage and television for over 30 years now. I’m sure those of you who follow social media have seen his recent interview about his position on stand-up comedy, which is critical for the future of free speech and comedy for several reasons.

First, he has had a relevant and strong position in an industry he helped to bring into the mainstream through the 80s with his stand-up and TV role, as well as with Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee. It is important to note that he hasn’t just followed suit in societal trends—he finds something funny and goes with it, and that is all that matters.

The Seinfeld decree

Jerry does not care. In 2014 when asked about the lack of “diversity in comedy” he responded with:

For anyone who is working their way through the industry, those were probably heartening words. More recently, the toxic elements are complaining about what he said this month:

“Don’t go near colleges, they’re so PC.’ I have no interest in gender or race or anything like that,” Seinfeld said. “But everyone else is kind of, with their calculating—is this the exact right mix? I think that’s—to me it’s anti-comedy. It’s more about PC-nonsense.”

It’s the same refrain of past comedians when social justice began to bleed into everything in entertainment. The old Opie and Anthony Show (and now both separately), and the late and great Patrice O’Neal were outspoken proponents of free speech in comedy.

Patrice’s stance on comedy and fake outrage at non-PC joke material’s most well known incident probably stems from his 2007 appearance on Fox News when he called out a shill (and subsequently was never invited to Fox News again).

The difference today is we have one of the most famous comedians of all time stating as such, with no sugar coating. When #1 says you are wrong, have been wrong, and what you’re doing is also destructive to the craft—you’re done. In stand-up comedy especially, which is truly an American form of art, you are down and out for good.

Jerry has FU money and he is still one of the most influential comedians of his generation, if not the most influential according to many people in the industry. He does not care about your feelings, and comedy shouldn’t either. Comedy will let comedy decide what is funny or not. It is a self-critiquing process.

The new generation of PC

I am far removed from my undergraduate days, but from what I have seen today, I would not survive. Stifling conversation and debate because it hurts someone’s feelings, or the shocking non-satirical suggestion that instead of clapping people ‘wave jazz hands’ to prevent triggering people?

I also remember that when I was in school, big name people would stop by and tour our auditoriums regularly. We had greats such as Lewis Black and George Carlin come through, and it’s a sad state that it’s such a hostile environment that Jerry Seinfeld—or anyone of his caliber—won’t tour colleges. When you make an echo chamber you end up with the terrible Western women colleges have been pumping out for a while now, and the emasculated beta males that follow them.

Jerry’s remark to the matter is stark naked truth, something public discourse needs these days, and it is important that he said it. Seinfeld’s criticism may mark the beginning of people getting up and walking away from the bullshit and echo chamber of PC nothingness. This is vital, because there is a real fear these days among comedians that what they say will be used against them to destroy them because it hurt some obscure demographic or someone’s idiotic sensibility.

Fear stifles creativity, but maybe with Jerry’s comment it’s time to stop being afraid, and just ignore this incredibly small, yet shrill and blustering minority. Maybe if we begin to say it in other fields, people will stop being afraid and we can have an honest discourse about the issues of today again—instead of just categorizing the 50 different ways you can offend someone pretending to be a victim.

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Comedy will not die even if SJW’s act like petulant children and demand that it be eradicated from the soulless, humorless equalist utopia they want to create. In fact, SJW’s themselves are laughing stocks that are frequently ridiculed by people who can recognize useful idiots when they see them. What these imbeciles don’t realize is that suppressing and regulating ideas or concepts simply leads to them proliferating and propagating faster. Also, Seinfeld was well aware of this bullshit way back in the day and had no qualms about mocking it.

It would be interesting to see if other comedians follow suit in calling out the PC garbage, since comedy (especially stand-up) has been historically and notoriously blunt and honest regardless of the “feels.”
Maybe Stephen Lynch can write a song about it. And should PC go the way of the dodo, SNL could even make a comeback or we could see the return of MADtv.

It’s not fun, it’s hard not to be angry. But I’ve gotten better at frame control, not letting the fact that swaths of pussies exist affect me too much. At least I have the opportunity to affect those around me by being the alpha cock that I am.

It has it’s benefits, women still inherently crave Masculinity, just being a Masculine 25 yr old in a world full of non confrontational pastel colored shirt wearing betas means less competition and greater abundance and selection for the top pick women.

My son has made such an observation as well. Also, I have noted similarly except that I see a lot of Millenial chicks targetting older men, like men in their 40’s like me, way more than I used to see young women go after older men.

Kuz a lot of millennials are still broke… I’m living below my means for example so I can make decent investments in the future.
You’d be amazed how often I see guys my age blowing a week’s worth of pay on the weekend trying to impress the ladies with bottle service.

A friend of mine was joking how every weekend if he has a dime left over from that weeks paycheck he’s doing good, I thought to myself wow man why the hell are you blowing all your cash? Some people just have no concept of the Future.

Yes, around 8% is the long term average for stocks, and less than that if you are mixing stocks with other investments (CDs, savings account, etc.). But that was the best I could find with a quick google search–the principle is valid.

8 Years of savings when you are young is worth hundreds of thousands more dollars than *40* years worth of savings when you are old.

I told one of my friends that he should open a Tax Free Savings Account and put some money into it from every paycheck instead of blowing it all on frivolous shit. When I explained to him what a TFSA was he looked shocked as fuck and told me that he didn’t even know that such a thing even existed. This generation is fucked.

Women want Men who act like Men, if they can get that from an older guy , or if they can get it from a 25 yr old, the age doesn’t really matter, the males with the Phony attempts at masculinity with those beta “Man beards” after awhile just don’t cut it anymore.

Maybe it’s just the area I live in, in flyover country, but they don’t even give much in the way of shit tests to me. Not that I’m trying to pick them up, being, you know, married and shit, they just approach with a boldness I can *never* remember from my days of dating and practically fling themselves at me. I’d like to think it’s because I’m Superstud MacGiantcock, but they do it to a lot of 30+ men I know as well. Show up, be in shape, don’t be PC and don’t act like a beta wuss and you can write your own ticket it seems.

I think there is a default shit test that they all subconsciously use and a conscious shit test that they individually refine to an art whenever they want a Man or want a Man to approach them. That’s just their nature.

What you said about 30 something Men is true. I’m in that category. Dude, i live near a college and i sometimes go jogging there in the morning before work. The clothes these girls wear nowadays is way different from the clothing girls wore in my day. The behavior is different too. I’ve never been as used to being approached as i am now, in fact i don’t think i’ll ever get used to it because i’m an old fashioned Man who is used to the traditional gender roles in that respect. Getting cat called definitely makes one stop and pause, and of course smile lol

All i’m going to say is, it’s getting harder and harder to stay faithful to the lady i’m with now.

A good friend of mine, after a rough breakup, told me to just wait, once you hit 30 (I was almost there) things get easy and women start throwing themselves at you. It came true pretty soon after my birthday, and has remained so for a while. I’m not saying it’s easy to meet women–it’s still work and finding a decent one that meets my standards is nigh impossible in the west, but yes, attractive 20-26 year old women will throw themselves at you and that would NEVER happen before when I was their age.

“and finding a decent one that meets my standards is nigh impossible in the west”

Indeed. This is a sentiment i share. To speak metaphorically for a moment, just because there’s lots of drinking fountains to drink from it doesn’t mean i want to put my lips near all of them, given the possibility that they’ve all likely been touched by lots of Men before me.

The rust factor is also an issue 😉

Being a 30 something masculine Man gives me the sophistication not to want to dip my pen into just any available ink, basically.

“and that would NEVER happen before when I was their age.”

Same here. I never really had to work hard to get females when i was younger (i shit you not) but i never did as well as i did when i hit 30. I had the option of going with older AND younger females, for example.

I think this speaks to the fact that younger guys are such hopeless mangina twats that these hetero females feel like they’re lesbians by association, and they naturally grow disgusted.They crave a real Man and the Alpha phallus that comes with him.

There is a torrent around with all episodes. I highly recommend everyone to listen to that. It’s like an audiobook but be careful on public transportation not to burst out laughing. I speak from experience.

I might have to revisit that some time.
But yeah I feel the same way, his death was a loss for humanity. The man was a true philosopher, a great debater, a pimpalicious playa and the best comedian ever.

I think that’s a mistaken perception. The old conservatives were defending (for the most part) standards of conduct and restraint that had historical kept societies from degenerating into what we have now. This was Morality A, which was at least in the West, broadly Christian in tone and content. What the Left now promotes, is in effect Morality B, absolute freedom and equality, based in the values of the Enlightenment. The equality bit is straight forward enough, but how you say, does restricting speech lead to greater freedom?

Well, when this transition started 50+ years ago, the argument wasn’t made “Morality A is bad, Morality B is better.” That would never have worked. No, instead it was simply said, “if it feels good, do it,” “do your own thing,” “old standards of the past are passe, and out of date,” “we should be free of oppressive standards of morality,” etc, etc. What was being offered was tolerance; nothing’s better or worse than anything else, just do as you will and life will just go on.

The problem with this is that “tolerance” isn’t and can never be an absolute moral value, without in practice it becoming just as restrictive as any other moral standard. Not every issue in life is of such menial importance as choosing what toppings go on your pizza, where one choice is as good as another, and “Vive les differences!” In issues of that kind, we can have tolerance for different choices. But on issues which draw into question what it means to be human, which are fundamentally moral in nature, tolerance is an illusion. Societies must choose where they stand. Either they are in favor or it, or against it. All societies have a generally accepted standard of morality at any given point in time.

For instance, whereas 50 years ago homosexuality was not just culturally/socially shunned, but religiously condemned, and technically illegal, with the transition to a more heterosexually “free” society which began to arise in the Sixties, society couldn’t maintain that sort of restrictive treatment of homosexuality any longer. This was so because to justify promiscuous heterosexuality, “free love” was deemed natural and healthy, and any restrictions upon it were deemed not just unnecessary, but actively oppressive because they limited natural human expression. So if promiscuity among heterosexuals was natural, and “love” was natural and good, why would a different expression of human sexuality and “love” be treated any differently? Was not homosexuality love as well? As natural as well? If it were, then speaking against it and treating people differently because of it, was no different than speaking against and treating people differently because of race, as it too was just a natural part of being human. Whatever was deemed natural then, was a positive good, and any restriction upon it, was oppressive and itself harmful, if not entirely based on irrationality.

So “tolerance” of a behavior of this kind, necessarily transitions into forced acceptance of it, because the mere act of tolerance bestows a frame of natural expression upon the behavior. Because for it to be tolerated in the first, it must first be deemed natural, healthy and not harmful to society. This in turn, leads to a forced acceptance, because in the Left’s conception of the human nature, what is natural, is right. The one leads to the other. Restrictions on what is natural, are themselves unnatural and thereby, oppressive.

Either homosexuality corrosive to the health of a society, or it’s not. If it’s not, then it’s perfectly fine, and if it’s perfectly fine, then people who continue to treat it as corrosive are being irrationally hateful, and they themselves should be opposed by any ‘moral” person in society. Which is exactly the way in which SJWs approach the issue. It’s fundamentally a moral issue for them. Homosexuality is a healthy, natural expression of human sexuality, which itself is perfectly natural, and should be allowed without limitation. Anyone who opposes it then, must do so for hateful, irrational reasons, and should be condemned and driven from public life in the interests of a moral society.

Tolerance is an obtuse and disingenuous value. Passive tolerance (I don’t like it, but I won’t restrict it) in time will necessitate active acceptance on issues which define what it means to be human and to be free. To be fully “free” is to live in a world without restriction on living as a natural human would live. To restrict “hateful” intolerance, is to increase the feeling of freedom one has in living as a natural human being, unhindered by societal restrictions of all kinds.

People like Seinfeld were a part of a generation that helped to trash Morality A, in the interests of short-sighted selfishness. They weren’t consciously trying to rework the moral framework of society, they just wanted to fuck like rabbits and tell crass humor without being judged for it. To justify their self-indulgence in private life and “freedom” from good taste in public life, they adopted the “if it feels good, do it” mentality of tolerance. What they didn’t count on, was where this would eventually lead. Which is to a society that makes “tolerance” of all behaviors a moral issue in and of itself. In this world, continuing to point out differences which are now thought of as backwards, irrational, and entirely make-believe, only serve to perpetuate feelings of judgment against homosexuals. This increases their sense of unequal treatment and “otherness” which SJWs call “micro-aggressions.” If you’re a moral person who opposes this kind of “oppression” then condemning someone like Seinfeld who continues to perpetuate it, knowingly or not, is the moral thing to do.

Good exposition. However the word tolerance has been misappropriated and subverted by utopians. You’re referring to their definition of tolerance, which like ‘diversity’, the rainbow as a gay symbol, ‘equality’.. these words or symbols are benign or even uplifting/righteous, so people find it difficult to dispute them, though what they’re actually tagged to might be very morally questionable. It’s a classic communist technique: good is bad, and bad is good.
Tolerance at a societal and political level is also different to tolerance at an individual level. Tolerance is the ability to take pain, for the greater good. So, for example, a decent man will tolerate/endure the mental pain of his envy for another man’s wife, because he knows acting upon his lust will have consequences for the children of that family, as well as for the local community. Tolerance is bearing the pain of life rather than leaning on intoxicants to catch a buzz, which destabilises people, predisposing them to anger, etc, etc. Tolerance is actually self-control, and is a self-imposed virtue.
As you mentioned, societies dictate policy in the interest of fairness, ‘inclusiveness’, etc, but the laws become restrictive when everyone is ‘owed’ a seat at the table. In the past, societies had demarcations of what would be tolerated from their citizens. These were imposed for the greater good, as people testing the limits of what’s acceptable will destabilise a society. People look to the ruling powers/policies for guidance, and when anything goes, there’s very little need to practice self-control. A tolerant person is a good citizen, but a tolerant society isn’t a good thing, because then that citizen will be expected to tolerate beyond what is reasonable for a human being (for example being required by law to raise another man’s child, watch violent thugs make his community unsafe, etc, etc).

The explanation is that they universally attack the West; this includes attacking Christianity, because traditional Christian is part of the basis of Western society, and attacking Israel, because Israel is the one free and democratic state in the entire Middle East.

Has more to do with how the GOP is supporting Israel because real nationalism is all but verboten these days, so the GOP uses Israel as a surrogate nationalism. The Left is simply anti-civilization and anti-anything Republicans and patriots stand for.

You sure that’s how you feel? Or are you simply wanting it all to collapse because modern civilization is anti-civilization? True civilization is patriarchy and male-oriented values. The Establishment today is a Death Cult. The Egalitarian Death Cult, to be precise.

Great. A few articles on Israel I’m talking about the same type of articles where they attack Judaisn like they attack Christianity.

While we have to admit some of the followers of Christianity can be quite stupid so can people that follow Judaisn.

The real hypocrisy is some people of Jewish faith endorse beliefs they themselves don’t follow within their community. Just like everyone else. If you do so you are branded an Anti-Semite. Which is weird that Anti-Semites can be and have been Anti-Semitic against Arabs and Palestianians.

@advancedatheist:disqus Alternet is higher-level controlled opposition in that it does indeed criticize Israel, but always from the Soviet-era stance that “Israel is just a tool of the big bad US” (when really, especially in mideast affairs, banking, and immigration policy, it’s the other way around)

Jews are the Caucasians who originated in East Europe or West Asia both original homelands of the White race.They and the other clans of white men migrated south during the Ice Age into the empty Middle East 10k years ago.

You missed the point. Jews are a “protected group.” White men are not a protected group. Leftists refer to Seinfeld as “white” when they want to attack him, but if the news wanted to defend him they’d refer to him as a Jew, because that label would give him instant protection from criticism.

Jews are white-passing at best. They don’t think of themselves as white goyim but will sell themselves as such when it is beneficial; otherwise they play the Jewish victim card. Not to mention that their social and ethnic networks are vastly different from the average white person; they have the highest median income in the United States.

Well, every time a brown person treats me as a white, or a white goy as a white, should I correct them and tell them “I am not”? I don’t feel non-white either, or at least I don’t identify with most non-whites. I can often identify with a white or jewish fellow ROKer than a liberal kike or liberal wasp. Ethnicity matters, but so does ideology.

Being a Christian, I can Relate to the old Testament and I feel a kinship with the Jews, I don’t really understand the Jew bashing or “Jew Conspiracies” on this Site sometimes, but I agree, it’s the Man’s Ideology and Character that should determine approval or disapproval, color or ethnicities shouldn’t be sole judging factors for a Man’s Quality.

The Jews of the Old Testament are dead and gone. No Jew reads the Old Testament they read the Talmud and the Torah. This is why the Jews of today have nothing in common with the Old Testament. The only exception would be the Ethiopian Jews who still read the Old Testament and reject the Talmud.

It’s not bashing when you point out what they control in the US beginning with the media, entertainment, the Judiciary, finance, and elite education. They have taken over the key components of our culture and our economy and when someone calls them out on it they get called anti-Semite. They create their own ethnic tribal system of networking and if anyone else does the same thing they get called racist.

Actually you are wrong. Your comment shows that you don’t know anything and use some rumours as your source. Or maybe you’re motivated by hatred or something to spread those lies.
The Torah consists of five books and it’s considered to be the holiest book for the Jews.
Your “old testament” is actually a Christian version of the Thanah which consists of 3 parts: the Torah, Neviim and Ketuvim. Jews read and study the Tanah EVERYDAY in synagogues and Eshivots.
Talmud is a philosophic interpretation of the Mishna which is the written version of the Oral Torah which according to a tradition was given to Moses along with the regular Torah in the Sinai mountain. Thus, they can’t deny either of them.
“Ethiopian Jews reject the Talmud…”- what a joke. Any proof for that? Actually, it’s not the Ethiopians but a sect called “Keraim”. They follow only what was written in the regular Tanah, not the old testament.
Next time, don’t write such bullshit.

“It’s not bashing when you point out what they control in the US beginning with the media, entertainment, the Judiciary, finance, and elite education.” –
In other words you are saying that 20 million people rule over the world (7 billion people). I guess these 7 billions are full retards. It’s also means that Jews are a true nation of Alphas while the rest of the world are pussies 🙂
And again:
Next time, don’t write such bullshit.

I’m not sure if you are a member of the tribe or not, but the Talmud which is one of the important books read by Jews is filled with insults about Jesus. They regard Jesus as a false profit who used magic tricks, they regard Mary as a whore. Even Muslims who persecute Christians have nothing but respect for Jesus, but Jews have nothing but contempt. That being the case, the only option for Jews is to either convert or they can leave the US. They are currently in control of many of the critical elements of the US economy and culture, this you cannot doubt. They are a hostile elite.

You claiming the the 7 billion people of the earth are retarded only proves the point of the utter contempt of Jews have towards the rest of humanity.

There is a silver lining to all this and that is that most Jews are not reproducing at the rate of replacement. They have become so consumed by greed and material pursuits they forgot what is important. The only exception are the Orthodox Jews, but they don’t hold positions of power in the US or anywhere else. Soon this evil tribe will be cast back into the ghettos where they belong.

“I’m not sure if you are a member of the tribe or not” –
Jesus was also a member of the tribe 🙂

“but the Talmud which is one of the important books read by Jews is filled with insults about Jesus.” –
Oi Vei. There’re maybe 2-3 sentences about the alleged Jesus. It’s funny because Christians have prosecuted (burn alive, murder, torture, boil, rob etc.) jews for 2000 years and they’re the only criminals just because they “insult” Jesus? Double standard?

“They regard Jesus as a false profit who used magic tricks” –
And what’s wrong with that? So they don’t accept Jesus. Deal with it. Do you regard Muhammad as a prophet too? No? You insult Muslims!

“Even Muslims who persecute Christians have nothing but respect for Jesus, but Jews have nothing but contempt.”-
What do you prefer?
“Behead this Kafir, rape his wife, sell his daughters but respect Jesus”
OR
“Jesus is a false prophet and uses tricks and magic etc.”.
Words against blade. It seem your hatred fucked your mind and logic.

“That being the case, the only option for Jews is to either convert or they can leave the US.” -Why the only option? What’s the alternative? Half of them are atheists anyway.

“They are currently in control of many of the critical elements of the US economy and culture, this you cannot doubt.” –
Again. Read my previous comment.
Wait, most of the engeeniring schools and universities are flooded with Asians/Hindus. Does it mean there’s a conspiracy too? Or it just means that american population slowly degenerates? Maybe in 20 years from now people like you would cry that their government is filled with too many Asians.

“You claiming the the 7 billion people of the earth are retarded only
proves the point of the utter contempt of Jews have towards the rest of
humanity.” –
No, it’s another interpretation of your theory. If 2 people can successfully outfight 10 guys, those 2 are good fighters.

“There is a silver lining to all this and that is that most Jews are not reproducing at the rate of replacement.” –
Israel is the only western country in the world to reproduce above this line. Today 3 and not 2 kids are considered a standard by secular Israeli jews. The fertility rate is 2.91.
You don’t believe me? Google it. Ah, I almost forgot… Google was invented by 2 programmers with jewish ancestry 🙂 Use another search engine. And maybe your computer is filled with bunch of jewish patents. Now, remind me the reproducing rate in US?

I see you are a member of the tribe and you admit the ugly things that Jews say about Jesus. This easily explains why TV shows and movies mock Christians because they are controlled by Jews. In fact the TV show Seinfeld, the four main actors were Jewish yet Elaine and George are playing Christians. Elaine plays the promiscuous whore and George the dim witted cheapskate. Yet their characters actually are more similar to Jewish stereotypes, I wonder why Jerry Seinfeld could not allow those characters to play the role of Jews. Why was the main cast was made up of Jews, is there a shortage of Christians in Hollywood? Is there a single show on TV where the White Christian male is portrayed as a competent moral man? Has there ever been a TV show or movie where the Jew was portrayed as the villain and the Christian the hero? This is an example of a hostile elite they seized the entertainment industry and do everything they can to mock the whites and the Christians.

“I see you are a member of the tribe and you admit the ugly things that Jews say about Jesus.” –
You are right. Every time our family gathers together (by the way, my mom is not jewish), our grandparents preach us about Jesus the magician or Jesus the deceiver.
Look. Nobody cares about Jesus. I don’t have any reason to insult him either. I have many Christian friends (including members of the Jehovah’s witnesses cult) and we have never discussed religion dilemmas nor who has the “largest” one. I even attended some of their religious rites (such as Christmas).

“This easily explains why TV shows and movies mock Christians because they are controlled by Jews” –
Who cares man? Do you watch TV shows? Me neither. Except for couple of TV shows such as “Game of Thrones”, “Spartacus”, “Boardwalk empire” (where Jews are portrayed as criminals = the bad guys) and maybe 2-3 new movies there’s nothing watchable.

” I wonder why Jerry Seinfeld could not allow those characters to play the role of Jews.” –
Maybe because the audience is more interested in these type of characters (random Americans) rather than watching Jewish gisheft? Think about it.

” Why was the main cast was made up of Jews, is there a shortage of Christians in Hollywood?” –
Perhaps they were friends and you know, friends help each other. And how many movies do you know where no blacks were involved? I can name you at least 2: Game of thrones and The lord of the rings). Are they racists? No.

“Is there a single show on TV where the White Christian male is portrayed as a competent moral man?”-
Yes. Hannibal Lecter or Magneto from X-men 🙂

“This is an example of a hostile elite they seized the entertainment
industry and do everything they can to mock the whites and the
Christians.” –
Yeah. When I wake up, the thirst thing which comes to mind is: “How can I hurt more Christians?”.

You don’t have any solid argument nor counter one. You just express you feelings or emotions. Sorry, but I will not reply to you anymore.

Very true. I’ve pointed this out many times before, especially to some people in my family. Of course, I was laughed at, asked where i got my information from, looked at like I was f’in crazy, and told to go find my tinfoil hat.

I just simply told them to prove me wrong. They could not and didn’t even attempt to.

Hebrews were just the White people living in N Africa and the mid East who invented this new Yahweh cult. The area began to change with negro migration about 3k years ago and the whites didn’t mix. Read that Bible carefully kid.
The Hebrews were thrown out in 600BC and then again by the Romans so they didn’t have a chance to mix with the new people. Those who did are called Semites(Arabs)
The few Jews left behind are now Arabs who believe in the Yahweh cult and are called Sephardic.The white clans of the Hebrew group went from Europe to Mid East and then back to parts of Europe.

The authors of this site, with one notable exception who shall remain unnamed, come across as well balanced people. Sadly, the same cannot be said of many of the regular commenters, who come across as hateful bigots. If you’re a Jew, and on the internet, I suppose you’ve already developed a thick skin anyhow.

So you relate to Abraham pimping his wife Sarah for oxen, Lot sleeping with his daughters, David killing his most loyal soldier so he wouldn’t find out David slept with/impregnated his wife? Do you relate to Joseph and his mom tricking his old blind dad so he could swindle his brother Esau out of his inheritance? Or how about when Joseph warned the people of Egypt of a great famine, and then took their grain stores and conspired with the pharaoh to turn them all into slaves?

You’re absolutely spot on. The Jews have successfully painted themselves as the perpetual victim. They even have a name for that ‘ANTI SEMITE’. Their subtle onslaught against the Whites, Christians in particular has been astounding. From promoting unchecked immigration under the guise of multiculturalism to encouraging a climate of Christianity bashing, the Jews are relentless is this pursuit.

There was an episode of Seinfeld where Jerry’s Jewish Uncle Leo would complain that any misfortune in his life was because of Anti-Semitism, even the diner cook that overcooked his hamburger. Jerry’s character then went on to mock Uncle Leo for that in his talk show set.
Seinfeld- Jewish, but willing to call out other Jews for their victimhood addiction.

I’d never heard of him. I don’t think you should feel that way just because of some comments. I’m not white (I’m mixed race) but I can appreciate that since the 60s at least, being a white heterosexual male has meant taking an increasing amount of flak from an increasingly ascendant leftist political establishment, while at the same time presumably having to try to balance a positive sense of white heterosexual male identity. Its not unreasonable in itself to observe that jews have played a sometimes quite prominent part in that establishment (less or more so depending on your point of view) and that comments sometimes reflect that. In other words in some ways you’re finding yourself in an analogous position. Not necessarily such a bad situation if you respond to it constructively.

I think you’re quite wrong about the analogy though. This article for a start is lauding a jewish man, in the context of probably the most successful sitcom of all time – which was entirely jewish. Some of the most popular commenters have been jewish – (remember John) just as there have been those who have been let us say ‘more critical’. That’s just balance. Red pill takes no hostages, and calls out what it sees. Criticism, prejudice etc, fair or foul, is a part of that.

Also remember what Roosh says about being ‘anti-fragile’. Sounds like sound advice to me.

Funny how that works isn’t it? Everybody the Left villifies they first transform into a Straight White Male. I can’t wait to see how they pull this off if Oprah ever leaves the Leftist plantation, talk about doing some major concept reinventions!

That’s unbelievable, if there was one comedian that the whole world knows is Jewish, it’s Seinfeld. Hell, even his name looks jewish.

I’m rooting for Jerry to create a comedy show about PC bullshit. That would be an ultimate fuck you to these miserable cunts. Oh, and he HAS to get Kramer to star in it, would be hilarious, especially after that whole nigger thing.

The Jews rooted in Borscht Belt humor, going back to Groucho, will never succumb to the social demands of the petty masses. Most recently Woody Allen and Larry David have made careers of subtly ripping “causes” & “movements”.

Dr. Tim Hunt’s witchhunt for making a quip about women in science labs hit critical mass… I obviously think that his joke is completely true, but maybe my experience was the anomaly. Kinda doubt it though, there’s enough written about women’s games in the workplace.

I agree with Jerry, you should be free to deliver your material without the so called “P.C.” Police. However I think there is the issue of the joke being delivered with “taste,” and timing and “awareness.” For example making a joke of September 11th that is tasteless right after it happened I think most would agree is not wise, and will not result in laughs. You can make a joke about Religion, Feminism, Politics, Race, Poverty, but the delivery is the key. Also if you deliver a joke and it makes people THINK as well as laugh it is comedy gold! It is also about your audience and who makes up your audience which can determine how “funny” your joke is. If you can deliver a funny joke to a wide audience then you are especially skilled.

Also a key and very important factor is the persons own Background and Perspective who is consuming the comedian’s joke. People who are conservative and or Caucasian (among others) for example dislike comedian Nazeem Hussein, a South Asian-Muslim comedian in Australia. He mentions the fact that white people don’t like Blacks telling jokes about whites and they feel that the white comedian can’t do the same…an argument I see posed on this site for example…then he breaks down why that is in a funny way. However while I may find it funny some others do not find it funny as evidenced by comments online for example. So those people in reality were also “triggered.” Or for example I myself do not like conservative comedian Dennis Miller and I do not find him “funny.” However many conservatives do find him “funny.” Another perspective is that I find John Stewart funny but many conservatives may NOT find him “funny.” This means that it’s not only the people who are supposedly among the P.C. crowd who get angered, but it can easily be people who are thought of as being outside the “P.C.” crowd who get angered/triggered as well!

But also very important and very skilled comedians can deliver a joke that does NOT agree with your world view/perspective and background but you can STILL find it funny. For example Tosh.0 makes very Non- P.C. jokes that will offend people of different races and nationalities among other Socio-economical backgrounds, but in my OPINION he delivers them in a way where the offense is dampened. Personally for me the mitigating factor is he jokes about everyone equally. Sometimes he can annoy people I admit that, but that is how I generally feel. Others may disagree but this is just my opinion.

In conclusion, funny is not absolute it is relative. Funny is what YOU find “funny.” Personally its easy for me to find Lewis Black, Chris Rock, George Carlin, Paul Mooney funny because they share the general perspectives I have. But other comedians from other perspectives I might find “funny” depending on their delivery and style. Laughter serves a great purpose, relieving stress, a form of expression, and a unification tool across all people no matter race, class, or perspective (if done right!).

As for Jerry Seinfeld…. he is a great businessman and makes great points, but I never found his stand-up or his show Seinfeld “funny.” But it’s all a matter of what you find “funny” anyway.

His being funny, or not funny, isn’t really relevant, the point he’s making is that any kind of comedy is being destroyed by the drab, gray jumpsuit wearing PC drones that seem to have their hands on the wheel of society. That applies as much to him as it does any other comedian these days. It has nothing to do with “taste” and more to do with the snarling “attack! J’accuse!” idiots on all of their witchunts these last few years.

Yeah I agree, I was just stating an opinion at the end. I was also addressing the “triggering issue” and Comedy determines whats funny or not. I also wrote to say that while “P.C.” has handcuffed comedy there also might be a “natural border” preventing comedy from “taking it too far” as well (determined by how it is “received” or how “funny” it turns out to be. This is beyond the “P.C.” regulations.

Just because someone considers themselves anti PC doesn’t mean they are being hypocrites for being angry about double standards. PC is a form of control and repression and gives certain groups more freedom than others, so being angry that someone can be protected by PC but do the same thing to another group while being protected is reason to be angry. I do agree that comedy that makes people think is the best comedy.

God bless Seinfeld for saying what he did. The nation needs more like him: successful men of all sorts willing to flip the bird at political correctness, the social justice warriors, and the entire gaggle of their mascot groups — and to do so cheerfully.

Jesus I didn’t know. Some research took me to a youtube clip with him and le wife. Never read the word cunt in a comment section that many times. Completely justified I might add. I just lost all respect for that guy, thanks lol

I just consider that he died. His stuff is great, and stands on its own, no matter who said it or why, it’s true, and it’s funny. Plus there is a good chance he will be resurrected from death some day ! (At which time he will need to work triple time to earn the alimony so we will be seeing a lot of him, with increased bitterness and cynicism).

I don’t get how people can do this, but I don’t understand a lot of human behavior, like how a masculine Olympian one day decides its better to be a menopausal woman.

You know you live in a Marxist socialist prison society when Jerry Seinfeld is no longer PC enough for the powers that be.

Standby for even more fascistic restrictions on the few freedoms that are left coming soon. We are at the end line of the Long March.

As when catching a bus, better to leave an hour early than be a minute late. The Red Brigades that have been on display in Ferguson and Baltimore are coming soon to a city in a once great nation turned cesspool near you.

It’s the old socialist Liberal trick, call it Political Correctness and people won’t take much note of it, call it Limiting the 1st Amendment or Censoring Speech and people will start protesting, ( though I have my doubts people would protest with how Apathetic this Nation has become). PC and Limiting the 1st Amend and Censoring speech is all the same thing, but PC is just packaged a little differently and so it’s Insidious intents may lead some astray into believing it’s not harmful, but when a Man can’t speak his mind on a Topic because the PC Moral Authority’s are sharpening their knives should the Man stray from their PC Narrative, than what good is it to have Freedom of speech? Wasn’t the 1st Amend created to protect against Unlawful and Unjust Oppressions like PC?

Nice. Comedy is an art form, just like movies, music, paintings, and video games. Breaking the mold and making people feel something new is the point of it, not to conform to people’s beliefs. I gladly offend whiny little cunts daily, it’s extremely satisfying to see a pc baby squirm.

I agree with you. The group of sensible, normal people that can recognize this nonsense is just going to get smaller and more amazed with the idiocy of the leftist juggernaut. I’ve seen eight year olds on facebook wearing shades and holding up that version of pseudo-heroic sign akin to “Bring back our girls!” The kids being raised by tv today won’t magically become John Wayne again. The brainwashing is far too comprehensive.

RooshVForum has a thread on the genius of DuckMan.
Just watched this episode and it has an unexpectedly powerful ending.
Can’t tell if the ending is red-pill or blue-pill… Or if things have just really changed this much since the 90s…

For the sake of sourcing and journalism, the Seinfeld quote about not performing at colleges came from an ESPN radio show called “The Herd” with Colin Cowherd. Cowherd interviewed Seinfeld for 25 minutes on a variety of topics not necessarily about sports but about life.

One topic they touched on was how climate of political correctness among young people, especially college students, is the reason why comedians, like Chris Rock and Larry the Cable Guy, don’t want to perform on college campuses. BTW the quote in this article is inaccurate (I’m not blaming you Gardner, just the guy you got it from). Here’s the real quote, which aired Thursday last week on the Herd”

” I hear that all the time…I don’t play at colleges, but I hear a lot of people tell me ‘don’t go near colleges, they’re soo PC. Here, I’ll give you and example. My Daughter’s 14, my mother, my mother? (freudian slip), my wife says to her, ‘well, in the next couple of years I think you’re gonna be wanting to hang out in the city more on the weekends so you can see boys.’ You know what my daughter says? ‘That’s sexist!’ They just want to use these words, ‘That’s racist, that’s sexist…that’s prejudice!” They don’t even know what they are talking about. Does that hurt comedy, yes it does!

I want to mention that the quote and Collins question, is bookended by the Caitlyn Jenner story and how commedians have gone on the defensive because of the criticism they are getting for joking about Jenner’s transition.

I’d say things started to change around 2005 or so for tv comedy.
Comedy Central was my favorite channel by far. Shows that ended that year include Tough Crowd with colin Quinn, The Man Show, Chappelle Show, Insomniac with Dave Attell among others- what have they put out since then? It sucks.
All of these shows would be pulled off the air within a matter of weeks now- even Chappelle.

I read an article here once (I think from Roosh) about how an episode of Seinfeld is part of his pre-game routine to get pumped up to go out with girls. Never thought about him that way before, but it’s true–Jerry is smooth and good with the ladies, even though he is not what most guys here think of when they say “alpha”

Yeah absolutely, but I am built like him, and most people here picture an alpha looking more like Hulk Hogan. I need to work out more, I enjoy it and like how it makes me look and feel, but I don’t think it’s the most important aspect of personal development.

You can also rebuild muscle and bring back your body pretty quickly, as long as you don’t become fat, but it is much more involved process to develop internal game.

He married in 1999, I guess soon after dating that 18 year old. The wife is thin and attractive, but nothing like the 18 year old he was banging months before. Also, this should have really scared him:

Several months before the wedding [to Nederlander, another husband], she met Jerry Seinfeld at a Reebok Sports Club. After returning from an Italian honeymoon with Nederlander, she took up with Seinfeld; Nederlander filed for divorce in October 1998, only four months after marrying. Sklar and Seinfeld became engaged in November 1998, and were married on December 25, 1999

I mean I guess when you are Jerry Seinfeld, you are not too worried about losing out because the wife found a better opportunity, but who would want to raise a family with someone like that?

Conservative college kids need to become more radical, and develop an “in your face” attitude to the Left. We did it, before Reagan, and when he got elected his successful policies only reinforced our positions. Gloves off!

You know what music, comedy, porn and girls all have in common: I like what I like, I don’t like what I don’t like. Don’t try and tell me what I like and don’t like. I thought Eddie Murphy was hilarious, and I thought Andrew Dice Clay was a wanker. If I liked you, I’d watch you on t.v. and maybe watch the commercials in between. If I really liked you, I would give you my money. Why is this so difficult?

Great topic. P.C has ruined society and comedy. This really needs to be addressed. I like Seinfeld the show, Comedians in cars getting coffee and I liked Curb your enthusiasm even more. These are guys dont give a fuck if you like them or not. Jerry brings the issue up a little in Comedians getting coffee about p.c and what its done to comedy. He bings up and addresses this current zeitgeist of humorless , pretentious, hipster p.c play it safe society where people are afraid of laughing at something if its not p.c. Part of what makes something funny is because its not p.c!!
I cant tell you how many times Ive had to do a transaction with a trendy hipster guy with their posuer beards and they ALL act like someone took a shit on their fixie bike and pissed in their pretentious cold brewed hand squeezed artisinal coffee. Dont let the beard fool you. under that hair face hides a beta pussy beaten into submission by their beta pussy “guy” friends and feminazi female friends. They’re so sullen and serious because they havent got laid in years despite all their pussy iphone dating apps.

My guy friends dont seem to be hip to the manosphere or neomasculinity/ red pill movements. They look at me like I have two heads when I bring up S.J.W’s yet they dont know why or have a clue why society has become so fucked and corrupted. You can lead a beta to the rabbit hole but you cant make them think.

i gotta say i am very surprised about this discussion. i don’t watch tv and i don’t read newspapers and this is just ridiculous. unbelievable. i had some pretty low lows in the past two years and these chicks are complaining about stupid fucking rape jokes. my god. makes me want to kick them in the ass until some real shit comes out of their mouth.

sometimes i think you guys are exaggerating cultural decline. meh. stuff like this makes me think you are making understatements.

Comedy and books are the last source of mainstream entertainment that is allowed to be free. I hate seeing that they are trying to destroy comedy. Once that and books freedom of speech is completely gone, we will have a “Demolition man” society.

Watch that movie and see how close we are getting to becoming that. Its eerie how many things that movie in the 90’s predicted.

Surprised this wasn’t in the article, but in the interview, Jerry reveals the following about his daughter:
“My wife says to my daughter, ‘In the next couple of years, I think you’ll want to be hanging around the city more on weekends, so you can see boys.’ You know what my daughter says? ‘That’s sexist.’ ”

“They just want to use these words. ‘That’s racist.’ ‘That’s sexist.’ ‘That’s prejudiced.’ They don’t even know what they’re talking about,” Seinfeld said.

So this is a girl raised in a family by a non-PC no nonsense guy, who really hasn’t been that busy in the past 10 years, and was able to devote a lot of time to be her father. And this is how she ends up. It’s the culture. This is why I don’t have kids in America, and won’t. Sure, some guys here have done so, and been successful. But I’d say there was a lot of luck involved there. Between the government, the prison industrial complex, the immoral culture, the state of sexuality and relations between the sexes, everything is stacked against you raising children in a positive environment. Miley Cyrus is the role model today–how much more degenerate will the role model be in 15 years, if I had a kid today?

Already the daughter doesn’t have any use for the modern man. I had a conversation with some girls I went out with tonight, and they made similar statements. Men can’t do much for them, and they see marriage as a net negative. Setting aside the amount of money and resources they can extract from men, they have a point. It’s a toxic environment for social relations today in the west.

“Seinfeld’s criticism may mark the beginning of people getting up and walking away from the bullshit and echo chamber of PC nothingness.”

It’s already starting. Most guys know feminism and PC-ism is bullshit, but they go along with it either to appease their female overlords or to put on a front like they’re actually good people. But in the past year I’ve been surprised to see relatively average guys posting things from Manosphere sites on Facebook. Many of them aren’t your typical libertarian or overly political types, either, they’re just logical thinkers who see through the bullshit.

I’ve also never met a SJW in real life. All their power comes from their keyboards, and in real life they’ll be too afraid to confront you. That’s why the “problem” of manspreading, which could easily be stopped by the offended person asking the spreader to close their legs, is instead dealt with by having the “offender’s” photo posted online or having some passive-aggressive think piece written about the issue after the fact.

I know a fellow who is very un-PC and makes rape,pedo, and murder jokes, and super PC SJWs swoon over him and even join in the fun. But if a non-charismatic comedian at amateur night makes a light-hearted fat joke or a joke about womens’ double standards, the same women get butt-hurt about misogynistic patriarchy sexualizing women. Meanwhile, the charismatic un-PC fellow gets laughs from the same SJWs when he jokes about babies getting raped and other gruesome stuff.

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