The VectorLinux team is proud to announce VL-Light Beta 5.VL-Light turns an aging PC into a usable computer again. Living up to the VL motto of "When Choice Matters," we give you lots of choices in a small package. We have included JWM and Fluxbox Window Managers, xfe and pcmanfm File managers, Opera, Dillo and lynx Web Browsers, Xine, MPlayer, and XMMS for Multimedia and Abiword and Gnumeric for office tasks. Come Discover the Difference that VL-Light will show you.We have reached B5 status. In this release we have added the LXDE desktop, and upgraded vburn, which was developed by Nightflier. We need your feedback on them so Please test and let us know how it goes.

What a wonderful job you have done, i've been waiting for years - YEARS for an OS that would run cleanly and fast on older hardware.Current install of b5 on a Dell Latitude CPx. 500mhz / 64meg / 15gig.Just keep in mind while wylie coyote is DSL or puppy. Vector Lite is like Road Runner.

It's clean, it's simple, it's faaSSST.

This light desktop stuff i've not heard of, my preference over the years has been ICEwm for various / obvious reasons.You've just changed my preference. I looked around for other distro's that had this LXDE and none of them are as updated.Really i'd prefer this to be a debian base as i'm a big ubuntu fan (debian before that). ie ifconfig is not there :S

Couple of points1) Can i add other apps?2) Speaking of - where's Firefox? (yeah i know i know, but apart from IE, compatibility wise FF is all you should need or use.)2a) EDITED =-= vpackager found - although gentoo wasn't what i had in mind ;p3) How do i order the Menu bar - it's not alphabetised or nothing.

Yes i did like Opera when it came out, when i used windows, once i started using Linux, Opera became, well, the IE of linux.

Brilliant, Brilliant, Brilliant.

Notice i had to add numbers for various non-points.That's because there's nothing else to say. There's nothing wrong with it. I can't believe i'm saying this.I've never said thisThere is NOTHING wrong with it.

ifconfig is right there, in /sbin , but as regular users do not have /sbin in their path, you should run it with the complete path. If you're running as root, ifconfig is in the path, so no problems...

slapt-get is your friend. it's our apt-get like package manager. We have vpackager, that can use cruxports. Moe is doing a great job with it. (thx M0E, btw)

There's no firefox because firefox is not that 'light' (opera is really lighter and faster than ff, at least firefox 2.X). You can get firefox through slapt-get, or gslapt (slapt-get front-end)

No idea on the menu issue. I haven't used any menus for 2 years.

Cya around, and welcome to VL. If you found the distro amazing, you gotta see what community we have here

1) Yes, of course. You can add:- VL packages (through slapt-get or gslapt). VL packages are .tlz - the same as Slackware .tgz packages, but with lzma compression instead of gzip- Slackware packages (VL5.9B5 is based on Slack 12 toolchain) - you download them and installpkg package-name.tgz or add Slack rep to slapt-get/gslapt (check /etc/slapt-get/slapt-getrc)- compile programs yourself 2) Firefox is too big and mem-hungry. slapt-get --install firefox should ease the pain .3) The LXDE menu bar or when you right click on desktop menu?

ohh too much to take in vpacker - installing firefox ;pslapt-get - will look into - sounds fab, does that mean no building?

firefox might be memory hungry. but no slower than Opera IMO.

3) The Menu menu Bar - i have not got the right click WM function for desktop - so i just get the 3 little desktop icons.So yeah - the 'Start' menu, i want to sort them in order i want - or alphabetise them..

The start menu in LXDE is dynamically created each time you start, don't know of a way to manually edit it. The JWM and Fluxbox menus can be controlled by editing text files (link to files are on the respective menus).

I have a question though how can one setup a program in JWM to run automaticlly on boot up?

Glad to hear it!

In your home folder find the file .jwmrc. Open it in a text editor and find the block:<StartupCommand> ...snip... </StartupCommand> You will see "pcmanicons on" in there. Add your commands within that block.

Thanks Nightflier.it works sort of. I'm trying to get wbar /vlbar to auto load , when I edit the file if will come up on logon but then disapear when I hit any function and the normal desktop come back with no wbar. must have to write a script or something.Dave