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As the temperatures in Norway and Poland start to soar to double digits, we’re pleased to release the finalized version of Opera 23 for Windows and Mac.

The most visible change in Opera 23 is the heart icon in the combined search and address bar. Previously, Opera’s heart icon meant “add to Stash”. But, when we talked to users, they told us they were confused about the icons in address bar and didn’t know how to turn on the bookmarks bar.

Now, click the heart and you can decide whether to add the page to Stash, the bookmarks bar or Speed Dial. If you add something to the bookmarks bar for the first time, the bar will be enabled automatically.

Remember that you can right-click on the bookmarks bar to create a folder.
We know that using the heart icon adds an extra click. We’re continuing to refine the heart menu and will add more bookmarking and bookmark management functionality in future releases.

From our discussions, we know that many of you have your browser open all day for email, writing documents, watching movies and playing games. Therefore, it’s vital Opera doesn’t crash just before you kill that alien, dry your eyes at the lovely movie finale (sob) or send that brilliant idea to your boss. So, under the hood, we’ve improved the browser’s stability to prevent crashes if a plug-in freezes or crashes.

Thank you for using our fast, beautiful browser. If you’re anxious to see what’s coming next, by all means download Opera Next or Opera Developer. Opera Next includes all the newest feature that will make it into the stable stream, but may be a bit buggy. With Opera Developer, you get to see and test out all of our experiments as we create them. These builds live side by side with your main browser and won’t overwrite your stable install. Linux users can check out our early Developer version of Opera for Linux.

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About Zhenis

As Opera Software’s Product Manager of Desktop Products, Zhenis is responsible for defining Opera for computers features and strategy. He joined Opera in 2008 and has also worked on Opera Mini for iPhone and Opera’s TV products.

Finally Build 23 goes final ! Thanks.
Now waiting for Opera Next 24 which includes our
Linux fans.

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

For the time being we keep Linux version in the developer channel.

nanana1

Linux users will be very upset if Opera 24 Next excludes the Linux version.

Veger

Not really… As long as there is *any* version available.! Whether it is developer, next or stable does not matter…

And we get updates for it of course!

nanana1

Nice to know….great attitude from a Linux user !

Rafael Luik

Pff. These users would be upset for no reason. Just use Opera 25 Developer for Linux that will come out.
I hadn’t a single crash in 24 Dev in Fedora.

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

I´ve got some site crashes even in the Windows version, so it would be much appreciated if it comes to Next, and eventually to Stable, maybe until 25 or 26, doesn’t matter.

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

As long as it keeps being updated, we don’t care.

Ste

Thx, now w8ting for 24 for bigger changes.

Jonathan Aanesen

wateting? xD It’s w8ing m8
You got lots to look forward to

Ste

Sorry 2 l8, I should edit it

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

If you read out blog, you won’t miss anything

http://zdenekvecera.cz/ Zdenek Vecera

Thanks!

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

Zdenek, thank you for following our blog.

Vux777

I’m having weird freezing with this one… and new tab page get stuck on loading couple of times
just my usual extensions and flags, that work in next without problems

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

We need a few more tips to reproduce it…

Vux777

couldn’t get the cause of it…
maybe baby sickens after first install

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

Let me know if it is still broken.

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

Why would you like to do it?

Rod Corkin

For me, it is mostly that I don’t like to see the word “Google” on my speed dial, even though I use that search engine quite a lot. Is this an Opera browser or a Google browser?? Otherwise I might keep it. Other people might complain about the ‘real estate’ the search bar takes up.

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

Many users love it. If you don’t want then you have the tip from @Vux777:disqus

Rod Corkin

I removed the bar a long time ago, on all three streams.

Rod Corkin

Can you give me one reason why people should use the SD bar in favour of the address bar for a web search?

Marcin Mitek

Some people are just more comfortable with it, it appears as a webpage (well, technically it is a webpage) to them, so it’s more obvious. And it’s big. My mom prefers this one to address field search

Rod Corkin

This I can understand, it is a matter of convenience, but as I mentioned before, the big “Google” seems to be part of the deal with the bar, which is the thing I dislike most about it.

Rafael Luik

Well have you seen what Google Chrome does when you type in the new tab page search field in the most recent versions? It’ll simply vanish and jump to the omnibox, the user maybe starts to understand he/she can use the combined address/search field for that… Let’s hope that means Google will remove the redundant search field from Chrome soon, then suddenly everyone will learn how to use a computer properly.
Somebody gotta start educating them to remove the redundancy and clutter.

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

Believe me, not so many people understand how to search from address bar. Usage stats showing the same. But you as advanced user, can change it as you wish.

monkeyfish

I’ve done it too, as I didn’t like the space it took up, and the main bar is a search bar anyway, so it seemed redundant.

But I don’t really understand why the option has to be hidden with a special code in the first place. When it could be put in the advanced options instead, where it could be found more easily. It’s not like disabling it is somehow going to break the browser.

http://tomdebruijn.com/ Tom de Bruijn

I’d like to see it go as well. I never use it and the address bar functions as a search bar just as well. It just takes up space I could use for speed dials.

http://www.artigste.net/ Michal

What is the difference between the address bar and the search bar? I get redirected to Google using both of them. I don’t really see the point of having a big Google Search box there when the address bar does the same thing.

bwat47

As someone that does tech support I can understand why opera (and also fx and chrome) stick a searchbar on the new tab page, even though it doesn’t appear necessary. Many novice users just don’t understand the concept of searching the addressbar (or even the addressbar period), and instead expect the searchbar to be on the homepage. Opera has a power user option to disable the google searchbar on the sd page anyway.

Since the whole point of putting it on the sd page is for novice users, it makes more sense to have it enabled by default than disabled by default, otherwise it would defeat the entire purpose.

I’d certainly be fine with them doing away with the annoying konomi code method of accessing the power user settings though…

I’m currently on 22, and every time I go to “About Opera”, it’s checking for updates, but I always get an error “An error occurred while checking for updates”. Any tip?

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

What is your localization?

SuuperTommy

Norway. I’m on a stable internet connection, so it shouldn’t be an issue.

Marcin Mitek

Have you restarted Opera since this morning? Please do so and report back to us here.

SuuperTommy

Yes, I’ve restarted several times – every time the error occurred I’ve closed and started Opera over again to see if it fixed the issue. I’m on an Eduroam connection, so perhaps they have some sort of restrictions when it comes to downloads. I’ll try updating to 23 when I’m back home on my own internet later this afternoon. I’ll let you know.

monkeyfish

I have the same issue at work (but not at home), so I assumed it was something to do with the ‘auto-detect proxy’. Do you use a proxy at home? I’ve seen it with every version since v18, so I manually update with major versions (I tend not to bother for the minor increments).

SuuperTommy

Yes, it seems like it’s a proxy issue. Now I know till next time at least! Thanks.

SuuperTommy

Happening at home too. Guess I’ll have to download 23 manually. Can I install on top, or do I have to uninstall 22 first?

SuuperTommy

I installed 23 on top of 22 with the network installer. Updated with no issues, now when I go to “about Opera” it’s checking for updates and I get “Opera is up to date”. So it seems fixed now. Just letting you know.

Omar

Nice. Did you consider possibility to have some kind of bookmark bar hidden until you really need it? Now it takes some space and breaks visually clear UI. What about some side bar, like that which was in good old opera? It would be really great to have vertical list of all my bookmarks and folders, accessible whenever I need it, but not disturbing me during my regular browsing. And if you bring back aliases, Opera will become the best browser on the planet again! However thanks for your hard work.

David

Sidebar for tabs bar or bookmark bar would be a dream. =)

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

I wouldn’t confirm or deny.

ayespy

No need to confirm or deny. Just work on it, and get it done. OK? OK. ;->

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

Yes, we are looking in this area, but we don’t promise to deliver the exact features from the past.

bwat47

As long as there is some sort of solution I’m happy I don’t need a carbon copy of opera 12, but I do want a bookmarks function that doesn’t permanently waste vertical space!

Herr Pietrus

Exactly. Of course we have neater bookmarks from WebStore, but it would be nice to have some kind of bookmarks menu prepared by Opera. I hope they will provide us something like that, working on advanced bookmarks manager is a good sign.

Pesala

Why not allow users (by default, without any secret codes) to remove something that they never use?

The same goes for the Stash and Discover buttons. I never use them, so I don’t need the Speed Dial button either. Why would I need that on the Speed Dial?

There is nothing to cheer about in Opera 23. The heart icon is fine — just like the Star Icon that we had for ages in Opera 12.17, so you finally caught up with one good feature after how long?

My PeaceKeeper results were significantly slower for the latest build than they were for earlier builds of Opera 23. No great importance should be attached to these results, though one would expect a general upward trend as Opera for Blink matures.

Yep, Peacekeeper results are heavily based on the hardware and background processes.

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

Peacekeeper has opted to give a comparisson to mobile browsers at the end of the test, instead of Firefox, Chrome, IE PC versions.

Pesala

Your results are meaningless without a comparison to other versions or other browsers. Obviously, the results are hardware dependent, so you results will be different to mine.

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

Why don’t you use 2 simultaneously?

http://mjmartino.eu mjmartino

None progress on sync password ?

thx for update

153136

when opera next updates to 24 version?

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

In the next few days or weeks.

153136

cool!
thank you)

Veger

lol… or at any other time?

Rinne Tensei

Thanks ! DirectWrite is enabled by default on chrome 37 beta and so will be on Opera 24. Complains about poor fonts will be gone by then.

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

You can enable it in this version and everything looks just fine.

Rinne Tensei

No its not.. It still have problems rendering some font faces implied by CSS & JavaScript (eg. some font faces in dropdown menu, listboxes etc).

SQL

Are those bugs gone in 24 you say? I’ve been using directwrite since O20 or something and its buggy as.. But still using it since most of the fonts look better. Hopefully some of the annoying bugs will be fixed in O24 then

Rinne Tensei

well, almost ! but it is still not as good as IE. as you compare side by side you’ll notice. jolla.com, nokia.com, igyaan.in are some good sites to compare them without going into the depth of codes.

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

If we provide a possibility to change the default engines, then some malware will use it to put their search parameters there. So this income will be simply stolen from us.

Ryuu

Can you at least add DDG as a default engine ?

aminiesta

YES!!!

bwat47

Could you expand the list of default engines at least then? Its missing duckduckgo for instance which has become a popular privacy conscience alternative to google/bing.

Even apple will be including this engine as an option in the next version of osx/safari!

Nekomajin43

Is it so hard to use a keyword? No offense, but you would get used to type a few letters before the search string.

SQL

I’ve heard a very nice suggestion here before, I think it was from Rafael Luik? About storing the default searchengine somewhere safe just like you do with other important data (I can’t really remember what he said but it truly sounded nice)

cgebhard

Are the stored passwords protected in some way from external access (read/write)? If so, couldn’t this kind of protection be used for the search engine parameters? And if on browser start any inconsistencies/manipulations are being noticed, all parameters get restored from a hardcoded template.

SQL

Yeah Rafael’s suggestion was something like that, hope Opera thinks about it

cgebhard

Being able to use this browser for free I do not complain about this way of making money. But I have a question on that matter:

Extensions can alter the http requests sent by the browser am I right? Couldn’t this have the same effect as changing the search parameter in the browser settings?

Rafael Luik

Invalid analogy… Extensions can’t be installed and enabled automatically by third-party software like search engines could be hijacked AFAIK.

cgebhard

Wasn’t meant as an analogy/argument. Just asking if extensions can intercept a search query before any data is sent to the standard search engine.

NoName

I have replaced the default search engines by simply editing a file. Malware could easily do the same?

ooblv

Looking at those Opera for Mac images in this post makes me think.
First of all thanks for working on supporting theme colors on linux.
On linux right now I have grey menus and popovers that looks a bit old. It would be very cool if we could have lighter and whitish menus and popovers, that would look more modern and fresh. It would also be cool if the selection color were full width like in Mac ones. I made a few mockups to explain better:

http://zdenekvecera.cz/ Zdenek Vecera

Tip for the future: The ability to change the order of the extensions (icons). It would be really great!

Thanks again for the new Opera.

Sidney Moraes

And the ability to change the order of the stash items.

P Head

I’m afraid such advanced options might confuse users too much. Imagine if a user changed the order accidentally and didn’t know how to change it back. Disaster!

Sidney Moraes

Ask for help in the blogs or forum

David_Gould

Presto and predecessors were massively customisable and didn’t seem to present many people problems.

Indeed, the options were so well hidden that almost no-one understood how customisable it was.

PS, I still want my tab bar at the bottom of the screen where it was by default in versions 1-11ish and adjustable in 12.x

hspdion

I cannot upvote this suggestion enough. This added feature would be *extremely* useful.

Vux777

there is a way, if you wanna get your hands little dirty
in profile folder, open “Preferences” file, and search for “toolbar”it’s an array of your toolbar extensions, you can reorder them as you wish
(those ID’s can be seen if developer mode is enabled on internal extension page, to know which one is which….but the order is self explanatory on your toolbar)

Chrome natively supports icons DnD, Opera should too

With their “rewritten UI”, they created more mess than benefits

lol…ur name is dinner…just noticed

Herr Pietrus

admittedly, I’m using only few extensions so I;ve managed to arrange my buttons by installing extensions in desired order… but still I think that having an option to move extensions’ buttons is a good idea. You don’t need to reinstall extensions then…

Kirill, you follow our blog, so you know that once it is there, we will let know.

LUPUL

Why all I like in this browser disappear… In ver 12 I like tab stacking and another tings, in the newer version of browser in the flags section was Lazy Session Loading…disappeared… I don’t like Extended lazy session loading… Anybody know a extension for replace lazy session loading???

Nekomajin43

Lazy Session Loading is already in the Settings…

LUPUL

Is not the same. At first lazy all pages don’t reload,just active page was reloaded.

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

That is how lazy session loading works. Its lazy about it and does not load background tabs. For faster start-up times, faster page loads (as everything isn’t loading at the same time), and less bandwidth expenditure when you launch the browser quickly to check something.

dqdb

#session-tabs-serialization and #delay-onload are removed permanently or will be reintroduced later?

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

They were considered blind alleys at this point in time. #delay-onload was an interesting experiment but broke far too many web author expectations. #session-tabs-serialization was broken by this happening at—to the user—random intervals after the browser had started.

dqdb

#tab-hibernation is a cool feature, I’m using it since you implemented it. It is nice to see how it suspends processes in task manager (maybe I’ll write a tool to measure saved CPU time in my usual 30-50 tab session, or at least I’m planning for months to do so ). And the most important effect of this feature is that it helps the virtual memory manager in the OS to decide _well_ which process to write to disk. Instant switch without microfreezes to actively used tabs and a bit slower switch to a long time ago used ones.

#delay-onload seemed pointless to me, I never enabled it.

#session-tab-serialization was a cool feature too, although it cannot be done flawlessly. You can serialize the DOM tree, the internal state of the JS engine, but you cannot save the plugins’ internal state. For the to reload or not reload, to use cache expiration or not to use questions I’d introduce a simpler approach: after browser startup show a simple dialog box on each page to decide whether to use the cached contents or reload it (and put this option into the power user settings).

escruting

For me, the launch of Opera is so slow compared to chrome or IE (i have enabled the background tab delay). This happens specially if i have utorrent or another software that uses the hard drive. Using the computer every day and Opera for browsing its clear that Opera relies a lot on the hard drive, and, being this component the slowest of them all i think this is a big bottleneck of performance.

Please work on improving the boot time of Opera,

Leonardo Gomes

Afaik the behavior is the still the same. Check if you have it enabled on settings: Delay loading of background tabs.

LUPUL

I have, but is not the same thing…Delay loading of background tabs starting load 6 pages or more, with lazy session loading start (from the opera:flags) load one page, the active page.

Rafael Luik

Are you sure you don’t have the flag “Extended lazy session loading” enabled? If you don’t want the other tabs to gradually load you should disable this flag.

LUPUL

In the flag was two functionality of lazy session: 1)Lazy Session Loading; 2) Extended lazy session loading. I need the first (1) not Extended

Rafael Luik

“Delay loading of background tabs” is working like 1 here.
Check if you have any flags enabled… Look for “enabled_labs_experiments” in your Local State file. Delete this file or try a clean profile.

Leonardo Gomes

On my Opera it only loads the active tab if that option is enabled.

https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

Link to changelog

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

Ooops. Fixing now.

https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

“Full changelog is available here.”
Tho missing 23 stable, last one is the next build

Krisztián Lengyel

Thank you for this update, hope to see Opera 24 in Next channel soon.

“We know that using the heart icon adds an extra click.”
This is really true, however Opera Devs, have you thought about assign right/middle click actions for the heart icon? If you are new (or don’t know where to put the page) you can easily open the menu by left click, however if you want to quickly save it (I think for stash or bookmarks) you can just simply right/middle click and with one click the page is saved.
I often use the stash, and a bit boring to use two click to save the page.

http://www.opera.com Zhenis Beisekov

Agree, that’s why it is a starting point for further improvements.

ECLiPSE

I’ve an even better suggestion:
RIGHT CLICK would bring the menu, so you choose where to send the link. That would change the DEFAULT ACTION when you LEFT CLICK (changing between three very distinguishable icons).

That way if you use the Stash a lot, Stash would be ONE CLICK AWAY.
The same if you are a Bookmark/Speed Dial type of person.

Herr Pietrus

Hmm… that sounds interesting and reasonable! But will it be simple enough for beginners if they can’t read pop-ups? I’m afraid that it’s nice but again…. it will be rated as too complicated.

God

I don’t like that i can’t read what i choose :c

romath

Why encourage downloading Opera Next or Developer in this post to see what’s next when there are no new versions?

ABDX

Nope, no problems

Kalo

thx for the new release, really looking forward to the bookmark management as I miss the sidebar from Opera 12 with the bookmarks as a sidebar that can be opened and closed and is nearly invisible.

Nekomajin43

Guys, the hungarian translation of the Settings page is still wrong. I’ve reported it here and via the bug tracker too weeks ago. There are many mistranslated strings. Half of the Settings look like it was translated with Google….

https://myspace.com/bluezzbastardzz Hans-Jürgen Bardenhagen

Is it supposed to update automatically from stable 22 now, or does it take some more time for the rollout? I’m on Windows 7 Home Premium, and checking the version page gives me the old “There was an error…” message again. D’oh, when checking again it tells me I’m on the latest version with 22…

Nekomajin43

I met the same problem a few days ago when the last Dev came out. Then I restarted the browser and it was already updated.

https://myspace.com/bluezzbastardzz Hans-Jürgen Bardenhagen

I see, so you still have to manually restart the browser after it has updated itself automatically. That’s a bit weird if it is the intended behaviour in my opinion, because it confuses users who don’t know about it and only check the version number. I’d prefer a clear instruction to restart the browser like it is with Firefox or at least a hint that the version number is wrong until I restart the browser. The best would be of course that the version number is also updated automatically. Anyhow, thanks for your reply.

Nekomajin43

Not exactly. The updater changes the necessary files, but the changes won’t apply until you restart the browser. So basically you still use the old version (22 now) until you restart.
What you say is a rare problem. An evarage user does not check the version number, but closes the browser often, so he/she may never meet this problem.
Anyway, I agree with you. This method is too silent.

Herr Pietrus

“We know that using the heart icon adds an extra click. We’re continuing to refine the heart menu and will add more bookmarking and bookmark management functionality in future releases”

But why do you need to refine, to work on it… Are the people nowadays incapable of distinguishing three different icons and generally so incapable that they can’t wait for a pop=up with explanation? Thanks to them we’ve got one click more. Wow, extra click, extra, extra!

Sidney Moraes

What is problem?

Herr Pietrus

In extra click for nothing

Rafael Luik

Many changes are coming in the latest Dev builds… The “bookmarks” flag adds an icon beside the heart for example, so it looks like this heart menu is not set in stone or the designers are confused. lol We’ll have to wait for the next builds…

Herr Pietrus

I know, I know.
And I’m trying to help them to find the right way

Rafael Luik

My gosh, you’re right, the icons had tooltips…

Herr Pietrus

Yeah, quite big buttons on speed dial page are also marked with the same icons…

nicks

There is unfortunatelly again problem with youtube player on some sites, belt where is stop/play/volume or other options hiding to fast and can’t do anything. This problem was fixed in previous version of Opera.

When Im trying to drag google maps its freezing the browser for a while ;/

Bob Hendershot

Great browser! Love it!

Trevor Gough

Is this build the same as Opera Next 23.0.1522.58?

Leonardo Gomes

Nope. This one is. 6x (don’t remember now the correct number)

Trevor Gough

ok, thanks.

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

23.0.1522.60

icetom

thanks, however I will have to wait until you refine the bookmark manager of 24 and make that stable. but until then.

eXzentrik

Since 23 Stable, I have to deactivate “EAF” for the Opera.exe-process in Microsofts EMET (Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit). Otherwise, the browser crashes occasionally. Any chance that you can change this in a new version, so the EAF security function can be reactivated for Opera without the risk of crashes?

cgebhard

I’m using this build with EMET and haven’t had any crashes so far. (Win8.1×64)

eXzentrik

I use Win 8.1 x64, too. Have you listed the opera.exe in the apps section of EMET as above? With EAF etc. activated? Otherwise, Opera runs without these extra security functions.

cgebhard

It is listed:

https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

Which Windows version?

eXzentrik

Win 8.1 x64. And EMET 4.1 Update 1.

Mister

Hello. Question to the developers. Please tell me how to properly configure the address bar to enter addresses are not passed on to any server? Search servers, translation, etc.

Rafael Luik

I’m not a developer but disabling the prediction service provider setting should do that.

Except for:
– Fraud/malicious site check after you press Enter.
– Typo in URL, that would search for it in your default search engine.

Mister

OK, thanks, I found this setting.

Shion

They finally updated Chromium to WEBM-problem-free version. After about a month have passed. Well done.

Sidney Moraes

There is a problem: I have to delete old version folder to show 23 in about:opera. FIX THIS!

Leonardo Gomes

No such problem here after forcing an autoupdate.

Sidney Moraes

When I check for updates in opera:about, it was on version 22 and said it was updated, I checked the instalation folder, there was version 23 folder. I deleted the old and everything is fine now.

Leonardo Gomes

Have you restarted Opera after the update has been downloaded?

Sidney Moraes

Acctually no because the download had already been done when I turn on my pc.

Leonardo Gomes

How do you know that? And how the download could be done with the pc turned off?

Sidney Moraes

I didn’t. I checked the installation folder and version 23 was already there. I had this problem with Next and Developer. I had to delete the old version folder to show correctly in opera:about. I restarted the browser both ocassions.

Marcin Mitek

It’s a bug, we are working on fixing it, but… you didn’t have to delete it.

Sidney Moraes

Thanks .

Mike

Background picture is called theme here. And the bookmark bar is just bookmark bar, it’s not bookmark manager. Should I pretending bookmark bar is the bookmark manager just like I pretending the background picture is theme…??

Nekomajin43

Did you see the latest Dev builds?

eXzentrik

Right mouse click on a bookmark folder -> Click on “Open all bookmarks” (not sure if this is the correct english name of the function) -> It opens ALL bookmarks of the root AND the subfolders of a bookmark folder. I suggest that this option should only open the bookmarks of the root folder, as it is the case in other browsers (e.g. Firefox). That would be more convenient.

Nekomajin43

“From our discussions, we know that many of you have your browser open all day for email, writing documents, watching movies and playing games. Therefore, it’s vital Opera doesn’t crash just before you kill that alien, dry your eyes at the lovely movie finale (sob) or send that brilliant idea to your boss. So, under the hood, we’ve improved the browser’s stability to prevent crashes if a plug-in freezes or crashes.”

And what about accidental window closes? I beg for a confirm exit option for month. I’ve just wanted to put aside my notebook. I’ve grabbed the mouse, pressed the button accidentally, and ops, the browser was closed.

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

Please specify how you accidentally quit the browser? Keyboard shortcuts? from the menu? Or what is the situation when you would want a confirmation? We try not to provide better horses but better solutions. Telling us more about the problematic situation lets us achieve this.

The Captain

If I may… When there’s an active download Opera doesn’t shout: “Hey you! You’re sure you want to quit? There’s that half-gig file downloading. You wouldn’t like to loose your progress now, would you?”

SQL

There is a flag that allows you to continue your downloads after stopping them.

opera://flags/#enable-download-resumption

People have reported that sometimes not working tho.

Tarulia

That pretty much depends on the server you’re downloading from. Some Servers block download resumes.

The Captain

Exactly – that’s why I would like Opera to notify me when there’s an active download in progress before I shut down the browser. Old Opera did that.

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

Okay, so the problem is that ongoing downloads are aborted. That is a specific problem we can solve.

Nekomajin43

I’ve just lifted the notebook and the cursor has moved to the upper right corner of the screen. When I grabbed the mouse, I accidentally pressed the left button. The cursor was right above the close button, and suddenly it was closed.

But there is another issue happening to me sometimes. When I have several programs running, my notebook can lag a little. It’s not that bad, only a few moments, but it’s enought for me to click twice on the close button. If the first click was recognised, the harm is done, because the second click applies to the next window, which is quite often the browser.

I know it does not happen often, but it can be really annoying. An opt-in confirm popup won’t hurt anybody. In this case, I think the O12 way is perfect. A confirm popup with a timer, no fancy stuff. It should be turned off by default, but when it’s on, it should work with every closing option to satisfy more users. (Or you can use checkboxes to choose which exit method we want to be confirmed. I know it falls outside the current view of developement, but what are the power user settings for? And I don’t think it’s hard to implement since you already have something similar in the Mac builds.)
Or if you want to reinvent the wheel, it’s fine for me, but please don’t want to target specific usecases! Make a general solution!

Isus

There is a bug with this version of opera (23) on IMDb site. When you click “back”, you get blank page…

eXzentrik

Confirmed (Win 8.1 x64)

http://zdenekvecera.cz/ Zdenek Vecera

Confirmed too. Report it to the people of IMDb

Ariesk47

When will Vine work on Opera?

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

Should work on Opera Developer. So by the next release.

SQL

By developer you mean 24 or 25?

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

I think I mean the 25 release that is right around the corner. Sorry, not 100 % sure about where everything is at right now.

SQL

Am I too far off guessing O25 will come next week? ;P

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

When 24 becomes Next, you will likely see 25 the next business day.

AS

DEAR DEVELOPERS:

1. You don’t fix marked a lot of text, is badly marking a lot of text, you understand?

When you finally clean it up? How can ignore such a little problem? You have a problem with fix it?

2. You don’t fix a bug with copy text of black background to microsoft word program, copied text and pasted text has a form of black marking, you understand? Any other browser hasn’t problem with it, only yours, move for work with it and fix it, understand that is make a big problem when using Opera and paste text into word, which has a black marking, previous to ditch black marking text need to paste in notebook and from notebook paste in word! Fix this!!!

Any developer can confirm accepting these reported bugs and check it and fix it?

Jay

Selection is more of a Chrome problem, it always sucked, but the copy & paste isn’t a bug – just a general wysiwyg annoyance – just “rightclick paste it” without formatting.

Rafael Luik

Man, you don’t really think a cosmetic change (1) and something you can avoid with Ctrl+Shift+V (2) will get high priority in their list of bugs/enhancements to do right? Specially when it’s something inherited from the Chromium the engine…
Posting here a billion times about the same tiny non-issue will not get it sorted out faster.

AS

Man you don’t know what you writing. Shortcut Ctrl+Shift+V isn’t work! Can’t paste text with this combination to microsoft word! First check and then refer to the subject. Only Ctrl+V

And with this combination pasted text save a formatting source! And it shouldn’t be in this way! With right mouse button it is possible to paste text and is normal so here it should be normal too, since it’s inherited from the chromium engine, they should fix it if they know how to do this! I even don’t understand why you reply to me if you aren’t a developer, man don’t concern me your opinion.

SQL

So you seem to think that Opera actually can change whatever they want.. I’m not sure about this but since this has been in Chromium like this for ages, it would be 1. Hard to fix and 2. Not possibly even possible since it’s closely related to decisions that Google’s developers did when they built Chrome in the first place. It could possibly be designed to work this way, who knows? But it surely isn’t worth the effort to go and dig Chromium trying to fix this (and creating lots of other bugs by doing so)

It’s just visual, you know? It doesn’t break any workflow of yours, doesn’t it? Just let it be.

AS

I don’t think like this, I just report what I regard right. You know, would be simple if some developer of Opera just answer me that it will be possible to fix it, and it won’t be possible to fix it because something… it will be simple, I wouldn’t have to repeat it, because every time a latest version of Opera came out I still see what I see and if it isn’t possible to fix this because it’s a bug from Chromium so at least let will fix it marking the text, because is really horrible and I showed on screen from Opera 12 how it should be look like.

Copied text from dark background of site here to the comment on this blog also has this black marked.

SQL

Yeah, I just don’t believe Opera finds explaining these things in detail so nice. Like in Chromium – people have their own shit they’re working on (Opera guys are mostly fixing some specific things, like SVG’s, some memory issues, small bugfixes etc) but fixing this big of a thing just isn’t Opera’s job. Opera has not contributed to this area of Chromium like.. at all? And it’s such a big thing i don’t think Opera even wanna start fixing it. Nor do they wanna explain why they don’t want to touch this area in Chromium. Chromium has their own guys for fixing these bugs, if they aren’t fixing them then they aren’t. Of course you can keep on spamming this blog and hoping for someone from Opera to respond but yeah i don’t think they just want to.

monkeyfish

Ctrl+Shift+V comes after Ctrl+V in MS word 2010 (I can’t check the others) to clear the pasted text of formatting. OR you can right click and select paste unformatted text. OR you can click on the little paste dialogue box that comes up after pasting to un-format the text. OR you can go into words options and tell it to ‘keep text only’ when pasting from other programs. OR you can just paste it into notepad, copy, and paste again into word. How often do you actually paste from a website to word anyway?

AS

So this bug with this text, which is paste with black background need to report to chromium, where I can do this?

Anyway people from the Opera should fix marking text, I showed this on screens and waiting for it, it’s a little detail but important and why they don’t want to fix it?

SQL

The text with black background isn’t a bug. Just general wysiwyg stuff.

They don’t want to fix this because its not something they really can fix. Not their part of Chromium, not their decisions. You’ll be better off just reporting that to Chromium bugtracker (Heck, don’t even bother doing that, I’m sure that bug is well known and can be found somewhere from Chromium bug tracker)

It even has a wrong status. “ExternalDependency” supposed to indicate the issue is inherited from WebKit and should be fixed there, but Google forked and it should be Blink responsibility now. Someone has to contact them…

I don’t think Opera can’t fix it. They have access to the whole Chromium source code and can edit and put into Opera anything they want. IMO it just isn’t worth going deep in the engine code to change this cosmetic issue.

About copying without formatting… In the old Opera where text was copied without formatting and images it was the opposite: there were people complaining it should copy the formatting.

cc/ disqus:AS

SQL

Yeah Opera most definitely CAN try to fix that, what I meant is that nobody from Opera has really touched that area of Chromium (WebKit fork of text selecting) So it’d be better to leave for the guys who know this area better.

AS

It must be a bug because copied text from white background or other isn’t copied with background to microsoft word, just only from black background copied with black color of background. After using a shortcut: Ctrl+V

it works as intended. It takes the text’s metadata information and pastes that to Word. So it will have the black background.

bwat47

I believe this is a chromium problem, same thing happens in google chrome. I agree its annoying.

anony anony

I have been reporting about several missing things in Opera which are native to chromium (bookmark, sync etc). Every time I get the answer that the developer team is working independently off Chromium so it is difficult to incorporate all the things from Chromium (although chromium has only very few things compared to Opera 12). But I wonder why this Bug got implemented in Opera though from Chromium.

#2 is both Word’s fault and as it should be. You can use Paste Special if you want unformatted text.

Dovelove

Had SAME problem…Using Opera Mail have to go to in one Email page TEXT mode to paste then reopen another Email page and copy and paste that to HTML mail page.

ayespy

“We know that using the heart icon adds an extra click. We’re continuing to refine the heart menu and will add more bookmarking and bookmark management functionality in future releases.”

You can avoid the extra click if you just make the menu drop down on hover, with no lag.

Rafael Luik

They were promising an unified favorites manager (Speed Dial, bookmarks, Stash, all in one place). Maybe the star icon from the bookmarks flag in Opera 24+ will rule them all soon.

ayespy

I guess I could care less which icon rules, so long as extra clicks are avoided. A hover drop-down menu is a good idea for whichever route they take, since “bookmarks” is now “every way you can save an address.”

https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

I was told that hover-UIs are generally to be avoided since they don’t work on touch devices, but I guess that current implementation would serve as a fallback so there’s no loss for touch screens here…

monkeyfish

Plus, if you don’t like it, you can disable it in flags to go back to the two/three icons (I use the Add Bookmark extension for bookmarks).

rpsgc

“Remember that you can right-click on the bookmarks bar to create a folder.”

Yes, but when can we right-click INSIDE a folder to create a sub-folder?

ayespy

At the moment, you have to create it on the bar and drag it in. :/

P Head

Thanks I love to click twice as much because 3 icons are too confusing for some people.

Nekomajin43

How many pages do you add to the SD/BB/stash a day?

https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

You can switch off the heart menu in opera://flags

Jademarisa

You could make configuration user-friendly instead of hiding options to users. I’ve tried to access opera://flags and I haven’t been able.

P Head

Thanks.

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

The heart is probably a temporary solution.

Joana Silva

Finally !!! thanks Opera’s guys!!!

http://www.youtube.com/user/max1cp?feature=mhum Maxim

I keep having flash video stutter, but audio keeps working fine. Video stutters for about one second every maybe one minute? (not sure) Does anyone have similar issue and maybe someone knows a fix?

LoverOfLife

I’ve made a simple experiment: Opened 10 bookmarks simultaneously from a folder,10 tabs, Opera (with no extensions installed) crashes when loading them, restart after restart. And then, opened the same 10 bookmarks in Chrome (with 12 extensions installed), no crashes, not to fast but loading smooth. Why ?

I don’t know what EMET is, but in Chrome i don’t have to use any tool to deactivate something. What can i say? Thanks, i think i’ll stay on Chrome, but i’ll come back to Opera from time to time..

https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

It is a tech Microsoft made for Windows to help Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit or make it harder to exploit a bug

https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

I think I remember reading about it in the bug tracking system. Should be resolved soon.

LoverOfLife

Thanks! I hope so

Guest

I just had another look.
The issue has been fixed internally already. You might wanna watch out for DNA-22725 in changelogs

Rafael Luik

I remember a story about a N.D.A…

https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

I’m not disclosing any internal details. I’m just trying to inform people.
I more than once felt ignored and questioned the sense of me writing comments at the Desktop Team Blog.
I’ve seen devs respond in similar ways, so I guess it’s fine?
if this is against the NDA than please advise me otherwise.

Rafael Luik

It was a joke.
But seriously… *Everything* we see there is internal. So, I don’t really know about that either. Let’s wait for a reaction.

https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

Well, I guess we won’t see a reaction anymore since I deleted my comment now as you scared me too much ^^

Rafael Luik

lol…
But I bet we would have seen a friendly reaction.

Would you ask about it, perhaps at Elektrans? Maybe we can talk about little bug reports that doesn’t include new features or changes… (But I can imagine reasons why we shouldn’t talk about them.)

Marcin Mitek

Telling people that the bug is fixed is ok. We do that sometimes by ourselves. This one is indeed fixed, will be available in future update.

Rafael Luik

Thanks!

Vux777

comment still there, and on email subscription your original post with name

reesmichael1

The joys of Disqus and deleting comments

LoverOfLife

I cannot find in changelogs DNA-22725, but if it is, i think that’s not the problem i have. Or maybe it’s a setting disabled in flags, i don’t know, really..Opera should be, or it’s suppose to be, good to go

https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

*internally* means not in a public build yet
I just told you the bug number so you can
1. have a look at future builds to see if it is fixed and
2. tell if this bug should be fixed, but your issue is still happening to you

LoverOfLife

Ok, thank you, i’ll look to that DNA in the future.

Cjcr

I’ve got a lot of crashes with this new version (v23). Everything seems ok with v22 but now … how I can roll back to v22 without do stupid tricks? thanks to auto update I can’t because it will be update again.

The crashes appear when opening some links from QAB and I also see a crash when I click on a extension icon (LinkedNotes)

LoverOfLife

I’m angry because it’s supposed to be STABLE version, but it’s acting like DEV or NEXT.. so why this realease in Stable channel?

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

Please specify whether the renderer (page) or browser (whole program) crashed? Bookmarks is an experimental feature at this time.

LoverOfLife

The whole program crashed and as i said, restart after restart. In my opinion experimental features should be on Next or Developer, not Stable.

Gloriam

Any chance you’ll give an option for the speed dial’s background to not be slightly white at the top?

It’s a bit of a nitpick, but I prefer it to be off.

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

In Opera Developer, you can see what we are working on for the start page under the opera://flags/#experimental-start-page experiment.

Gloriam

Couldn’t find what I was looking for there, using the latest (24.0.1558.3) as far as I know.
I’ll try to restate it a bit better, when you add a background to your speed dial (AKA theme) it’ll add a slight white overlay at the top, I’d like to turn that off.

Thanks again for trying to help.

Alex Parker

Controls of videos don’t work AGAIN, unless you pause the video. I already complained about it, you fixed it, now same thing again:

Someone already reported it in a comment here and it was said that it is already fixed. They are looking if they can get that fix to Opera 23.

aminiesta

I love this new heart icon. It neat and make things more organizeable. I really hate the bookmark icon from the past. It ugly and cannot be hidden.

MarkusMK

In the Bookmarks Bar there are no more generic icons on pages without favicon if the bookmark is in a folder. Can anyone confirm that?

Vux777

confirmed
I’ve been complaining about that bug since it was first showed in developer builds, but no one responded, so I thought it was something on my side

ayespy

I’ll be damned. You’re right!

uzerrr

AFAIK Opera since 23.0.1522.0 automaticly check other browsers for passwords. How to disable that “feature” ?

Rafael Luik

Only Opera 24+ does that auto-import, and only if you have an empty profile.

FelipeVM

Hi guys. In the latest versions of Chrome and Firefox there are localized search engines of Google. Would there be the possibility to change the default Google search engine for localized versions?

Johan Liebert

I want “CONFIRM EXIT”

Nekomajin43

Me too!

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

Could you please tell me when you want it to confirm exit? How is the browser quitting? Did you accidentally hit a keyboard shortcut or quit from the menu? Or what is your use case?

SQL

Sometimes happens for me when I’m moving my mouse to my right monitor (When Opera is opened on the left) And I’m trying to focus the application fast that i have open in my right monitor, so I end up accidentally clicking before I even reach the right monitor with my cursor, resulting in me clicking the exit button top right of Opera.

eXzentrik

In my case, it happens mostly by accident when closing other applications via the X in the upper right corner or when pressing CTRL+SHIFT+X while typing or editing texts in the browser. So it would be really great to have an optional confirm exit function.like in the Presto Opera or in Firefox.

Ry

Any chance you could look at the tab animation? Often on my machine it opens up quite juddery. Most of the time it’s butter smooth. My system is fairly quick.. i5 latest drivers windows 7 etc.. I choose opera cos it looks nice and is quick but I think this area can be improved.. I see it almost every day. I don’t have a ton of tabs open either.

Jademarisa

You’ll have me “cheering” Opera when it is Opera again, not this crappy and unmanageable Google Chrome clon. Meanwhile I stick to the real Opera 12.17.

Jademarisa

I was finally able to access opera://flags, but to no use at all. Options are uninteresting and of dubious use. No classic menu, no proper menus, no chance of hiding the hideous Opera button. More of the same. Still not a fan of Chrome clon

Nekomajin43

Flags is not settings. It’s “experimental features”.

reesmichael1

Was something preventing you from accessing the flags before?

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

Try enabling Tab Hibernation.

Jademarisa

Why? I want tabs

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

You have no idea right? Tab Hibernation puts tabs not being active into sleep mode, so they don’t use RAM until you activate them again.

Rafael Luik

Try entering 2014.

Jademarisa

Sorry but I don’t think that entering a new year in the future should entail going back to time in terms of manageability and user friendilness in a browser. I always thought that the future would bring improvements, not the opposite.

Rafael Luik

Having time to care about a barely used menu and a button, I don’t believe this is 2014’s thing.

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

These are not options. They are experiments.

noemata

Everything behaves very sluggish in this version (same with actual Chrome). After deactivating “hardware acceleration”, the problem is gone (in Opera & Chrome).

NoName

This sounds like a problem with certain hardware.
Which GPU do you use?

noemata

Hi, Ati Mobility Radeon HD 4570. I’m not the only one with this problem, since the actual stable versions of Opera and Chrome are out there. It sounds more like a chromium-bug himself for me..

Some other guy with a HD 5650 also has this.
It could be a AMD thing.
I don’t have any problems on my computers, but I currently don’t have any AMD GPUs.

You could try and update your gfx drivers, and see if it helps.

noemata

After a catalyst driver update, everything works fine, even if hardware acceleration is activated. Many thx nn!

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

Beta? because I´m on the 14.4 version released in April, which is the latest stable from AMD and I’m having this problem too.

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

Too bad my Laptop has APU and I don´t think I can remove that part.

NoName

You don’t need to remove anything.
You can try to update your drivers as noemata did.

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

It doesn’t work either.

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

Disabling HWA made everything worse, tried latest AMD beta drivers no fix, went to AMD CC and set everything low, so I have to say goodbye to Speed Dial, will change every entri into a Bookmark Bar and will survive with that until Bookmark manager arrives.

Herr Pietrus

Maybe I shouldn’t write it here, but it’s always a chance that someone will read it… Could you, Opera team, think about adding some keyboard shortcut for switching between different search engines in omnibox? It’s extremly unhandy doing it with mouse so the only way to use them is using the assigned letters. I think it would be great if we could do it e.g. by pressing shift/ctrl+left/right cursor…

dqdb

Alt+Left/Right

Herr Pietrus

O shit… I see I’m not so inventive… Let’s forget that I’ve written anything here…

Marcin Mitek

Or use the keywords (b for bing for example).

https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

Or add them manually (in preferences). I have 20+ from Opera Presto days (many different sites

Daniel Carvalho

Dear Opera developers. I have come here to tell you I’m tired of your product!

Opera 12.17 was the best browser I have ever had, but the fact you stopped supporting it made it out-of-date, which forced me to upgrade to Opera 22 (or should I say “downgrade”?).

I’m tired of the way you changed Opera.You took all the good things it had, all the things that made it the best browser one cold ask for – being able to recover the tabs you accidentally closed with a simple Ctrl + Z; choose if you want the tabs to open next to or far away from the current tab; option to OPEN your downloads, not only SAVE them; being able to choose if you want that space on the top of the window to be occupied by the tabs or not; preview of the content of tabs when hovering the mouse over them; choosing to open the tab next to the one you closed or the last one active, and not being forced with a single option; having more PREFERENCE options; being able to customize Opera as you wish, and many other important features that made me choose Opera over the popular Chrome and Mozilla browsers!

Opera 22 and above is heavy, the autoupdate keeps hindering my PC, and most of the time it just uses more memory than it should, making my PC slow to the point I either restart the program or just wait hours for it to respond. Today I literally spent ONE HOUR trying to make Opera work until I got tired of it! Opera 22 doesn’t block any pop-ups, doesn’t let me simply OPEN the downloads, is heavy to the point it hinders my computer’s performance of both Opera and other programs, and worst of all, your attitude towards us consumers who have been asking for Opera 12 back for years! And do not think this is a problem of a slow PC, because it only happens with your browser – Mozilla, Chrome and Opera 12 NEVER had any of those problems. I can also run the latest games (that need much more CPU power than a browser) just fine!

I’m moving to Chrome now, as it’s faster, doesn’t freeze my computer, and is basically the same thing as your newest version of Opera – if I’m using the very same thing, I’m obviously gonna choose the version that doesn’t screw up my PC. I will be back to using Opera as soon as you bring back all the functions we loved in Opera 12.17, which I’m sure won’t be a problem for you guys, as the implementation of those features are “blazing fast”, aren’t they? All you have to do is stop “surviving comments like these”, and start attending to the demand of your consumers.

Oh, but don’t worry. I will still use Opera sometimes. Opera 12! Because sometimes I just like going back there and reviving the best browser there is! You may want us to forget about it, but we won’t!

Sincerely, a consumer you have let down for too long!

Unknown

There is a problem with some video player progress bar.
Progress bar hides so fast and doesnt recognize mouse.

https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

Which player? Address?

Dmitry Kirin

I think I’ve seen something like that on Youtube: sometimes, when a video is being played in a container (not full-screen) and the mouse pointer is moved to its lower edge, the toolbox slides in but remains unresponsive: I click the volume slider but it does not feel it and the toolbox slides away. In the full-screen mode, everything’s OK.

http://varabi.ovh.org/ Varabi

I can confirm problem with embedded youtube videos.

Unknown

Liveleak.com

SuuperTommy

Can confirm it happens on Liveleak.com’s media players. Annoyed me all yesterday.

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

O23 is giving me a big lag when opening Speed Dial folders, even those with a few items, 3 or 4. O22 was almost fine, O19 was the last version with no lag at all, then 20 a lil bit of lag, 21 and 22 a lil bit more, now it’s become evident and annoying.

Windows 7 x64.

O24 on Linux no lag at all.

UnHappyGene

Boo Hiss…I want to click the dang heart and make a fave, the sub menu slows me down. Minus & negative to you! Shame on you!

UnHappyGene

Oh, so this is a fanboi page…excuse ME…still – shame on you!

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

I just discovered Maxthon…

Not the end of the road with Opera, but certainly another browser has catched my attention, it’s faaaaast, compatible, stable, full featured, extensible, and whatnot.

Sad thing is the chinese implemented succesfully all the ideas that Opera ditched and was once known for. So all those times you’ve said you’re not aiming to replicate old Opera functionality, think again. Maxthon caused an impression in the last five minutes no other browser has been able to cause for the last 6 years, it even can already switch between Adobe Flash and Pepper with one click and has a full deployed Bookmark Manager, not to mention it has full support for H.264 in Linux, Speed Dial not the same but not bad either. It even suggests key shortcuts for searching text as you type, man I’m gonna spend some time here.

eXzentrik

Has Maxthon still the bug that it doesn’t remember visited links after a restart?

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

I´m not sure, I´m using Opera right now, Maxthon is everything I said, but in Linux, the Windows version is completely different and I didn´t really like it, no adblockers, no Last Pass.

Like if the two were made by totally different companies.

Dmitry Kirin

I did the experimental temporary switch to Maxthon two months ago. I’ve written about it here in the comments. Despite the neater ‘Metro’ UI style and minor useful features available in Maxthon, I’m glad I’m back to Opera. For adblocking, Maxthon has Ad Hunter. It’s activated in the settings or installed somehow, can’t remember.

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

As I mentioned it is a better option in Linux, not in Windows.

kuwem

By the way about Maxthon. Dear Opera developers, why you cant just add button “Recently visited pages” near with “Refresh” instead of “Speed Dial” button? In Maxthon I can open closed pages much more comfortably that I must go to “Opera” for menu. As I understand rightly it’s not big deal to add one button. Just experiment with it in Opera Developer and look how many people will use it.

nicks

Hi, there is a problem with speed dial page too, when i want to open new tab with “+” shows up blank page instead of speed dials

ayespy

This happens here as well, Win 8.1, something less than half the time. “Refresh” always causes the dials to appear.

http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

Click to expand please, these translucent squares appear as the UI lags when I click to open a Speed Dial folder. I tought it was some flag I enabled, so I reset all of them to defaults, but it didn’t solve the problem. O22 didn’t do this.

Win 7 x64. AMD APU Graphics.

Izer0

So stupid unstable unusable version. Sessions gone, thanks to Session buddy to save it, lazy loading disabled and Opera guys … where is DirectX settings?? It’s absolutely unusable right now. Open link in new window don’t work, open links from external application don’t work, open link in new tab work occasionally. Where is DirectX setting to bypass this stupid things? OMG

Pietro Marafiga Monteiro

Thanks for the new version, but

How do I proceed to export bookmarks and speed dial websites?

Do not tell me that the browser still does not have a bookmarks manager and export speed dial?

ayespy

OK. We won’t tell you…

Rafael Luik

LOL.
Well, Opera 24+ has a bookmarks manager…

Dovelove

Scared to ask a simple question Ver. Numbering downloading offline
package. New Stable is 1522.60 but Opera NEXT is 1522.58? Doesn’t make
sense to me..I would think Next would be moved to 24 but nothing
surprises me. This probably will get erased as some malicious question
since some users with Opera since ver. 4 aren’t even afforded an opinion.

ayespy

24 cannot move to Next stream until all it needs is routine debugging. As long as it’s mid-work on a feature, it cannot advance. Therefore, the Next stream, in effect, has no version assigned to it. Its old version, which was abandoned when the last update of Next was fit for Stable, will just have to act as a placeholder until Version 24 is in a fit state to be called “Next.”

There will be times when a build number in one stream might be lower than the next stage

Dovelove

Previous 1522.58 ver. was having terrible memory problems. This stable 1522.60 ver. seem to have solved that problem so far.

https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

I think part of it is some sites can trigger a memory bug in a rendering engine in a browser, it affects all browsers, just takes time to find a page and then it can be tested

dqdb

Do you plan to implement the new zooming features in chrome.tabs API like setZoom and setZoomSettings?

J Mercado

On further bookmark enhancements, will future release include “export” option as with bookmark manager in Chrome browser? Computers crash and a bookmark archive is essential for quick return to all functions.

Rafael Luik

There’s no need for export in this case, what you want is backup just copy favorites.db, Bookmarks, etc…

oic

Two decades of browser development and we still don’t a single click, single file backup feature by any browser. Instead we have to search, find, copy/paste multiple files

Nigdicks

Tab stacking when?????

Shion

God damn it. Can’t you guys fix one thing without wrecking another? WEBM is fixed, but now Flash became unstable. Have two Steam pages open with players working to see focus related problems. Some video flash-players always crash the tab. And yes, the flash version is the latest and is not the source of the problem as it was the of same version when Opera was 22. “Stable” my **s.

And do add a “make all default” button to opera://flags page.

dqdb

> And do add a “make all default” button to opera://flags page

Open file “Local State” in your profile folder, and delete “enabled_labs_experiments” value from the “browser” block while Opera is not running.

Shion

Thank you. Wish they had something like “readme.txt” with stuff like that somewhere.

Vux777

am I missing something, like on other platforms (mac, linux) you don’t have that button?

Shion

Found it. Never noticed it before. One less problem that is.

But the flash is still screwed. Something is wrong with relative position of flash frame, as everything is fine in fullscreen mode, while in “frame” mode mouse-related events are buggy.

https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

Any sites for examples?

Shion

It’s not site-related. It’s flash-reladed. Many people already noticed it (at least 3 comments on this page alone). And they say 24th Opera has it fixed.

Shion

No you don’t. I missed it.

Flash is still screwed though. Problem is mouse-position-related. Ok in fullscreen, glitchy in frame-mode. I hope we won’t have to wait for a fix for a damn month this time.

Make sure you have the current version of Flash Player, and that it is not a damaged install

Calypso

Useless piece of junk. Stop auto-update of the damn thing, let me choose if I want to update it or not. Opera 23 steals the focus and auto-hiding taskbar is unusable as Windows are unable to show the taskbar above Opera window. Just great, it was working fine in ver 22. :/

Calypso

If you didn’t understand what I’m saying – my Opera is now ‘Always on top’ without being able to disable that stupid feature. I cannot move it to the back anymore so taskbar cannot show (auto-hide is enabled), desktop gadget cannot show above Opera, etc.

Resolve it ASAP as I cannot work like this. I’m using Opera since version 5 and would like to keep on using it, but you guys at Opera are really turning the best browser to the useless piece of junk. Please stop doing that and focus more on usability and customizability of the browser.

Also, allow users to disable/enable auto-update. We already experienced some of your great new ‘features’ that made everyone’s life miserable on more than one occasion.

Prevedovich

Opera 22 and 23 downloans something from 173.194.70.* and 74.125.232.* even with TABS CLOSED. It downloads 500 mb then drops connection, then dowloads again and again. What the hell is this?!?! I am completely loosing trust to the product.

Burhan

When I create a new window using javascript, the horizontal scroll bar does not work in Opera 23 (windows 7 64 bit) but, tested ok with other browsers. Anybody else have the same problem ?

I think that might be the Opera cache files, browser cache files can grow big over time

Cjcr

Maybe … but there should be an option to limit it or something. I don’t know if this option already exists.

OldHickory30

Ionically Firefox is much faster and more customizable then Opera 23 while allowing DDG as default search. Maybe I’ll use Opera once again when they allow for some of the most minute custom changes, while not being forced to use predetermined search engines.

http://byazrov.ru/ Bello Russo

From all comments I read I assume I did a right thing breaking my drug addiction of using Opera by switching to Chrome. Damn. it was hard, painful and nerve wracking but I got over it and now I use Chrome comfortably. Sorry for you guys, Opera users, Swedes betrayed us and keep creating unusable monster that unfortunately has less and less good things for people to want to use Opera. Sad story.
Is there a chance Opera re-invent itself and this time in a good way?..

https://myspace.com/bluezzbastardzz Hans-Jürgen Bardenhagen

Are you talking about Ikea?

Faizan Munir Khan Rajput

Is Opera Link in there yet?

https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

It has been in testing for a bit, it is behind a flag right now, tho may not work right

Since I installed this latest update, my taskbar doens’t re-appear from autohide when I mouse over it. It is definitely an Opera problem, since the problem only occurs when I’m in Opera and the screen is maximized. When I minimize the screen or press the windows button, the taskbar appears, but the problem is back when I maximize again.
What can I do to solve this?
I’m on windows 7 64 bit…

fliker

Same to me, on Opera Next 24 the problem is solved.

Herr Pietrus

I’ve noticed huge problemwith some movie players, also with YT player. Navigation elements immediately disappear and when I move the mouse to show them again, they pop-up only for a second. Its impossible to use video players in this state. I’m afraid I have to move to version 22.

blackcoder

Already mentioned here several times and as far as I know it is already fixed in Opera 24.

If I have a basic auth dialog open and I try to move the tab then opera crashes

mizo0070

I am using Windows 8.1, and whenever I drag a tab outside of Opera to the right edge of the screen, it won’t snap. This works only if I drag it to the left edge. Can anyone confirm this?

Shion

Is there any way to make download popup go away in 1-2 seconds after appearing (not the button-click event)? This thing was bugging me since 15th Opera and I’ve been asking about it all this time. Would be nice to know if I’m on ignore-list here too.

Izer0

Will Direct3D back in Opera or last stable and usable version is Opera 22?

A lot of embeds are broken with clicktoplay plug in (mostly Flash Player)

ayespy

For the last two days, I have been getting random Shockwave crashes in this version on Huffingtonpost.com. Impossible to predict – and takes hours to replicate.

Shion

Maybe all this “streams” idea is wrong? No really. I’m entering my ISP’s control panel website and the first message I see is “Your browser is OLD”. It’s a god damned LAST version of STABLE Opera. Even my ISP knows that latest stable Opera has security issues. Why don’t I? Why don’t you? Switching to FireFox for money transactions. Not much longer to a complete browser switch. Faster development my ass.

Evil Lynn

All I want is to be able to bookmark easily and bookmark multiple tabs in one go. The fact that I cant do this means I will stick to Firefox. And no saving your session is NOT the same thing.

how do i turn off the searching with google/bing/whatever? i tried in the settings but it did nothing. the second i try to type in the bar it hangs up, its pretty much unusable. And second, how do i get it to just load a totally blank page? ive tried in the settings but no matter the change,it does nothing. its the mac version im using

Another one build for Opera 23 stable: 23.0.1522.75. I wonder, why again without any changes in the changelog, and lack of the official announcement).

latitude51uk

I had Opera 12.17 and Opera 23 running on my PC. I needed Opera 23 because an increasing number of sites won’t render on Opera 12.17, but they do render in Opera 23. I needed Opera 12.17 because in Opera 23 the smaller images only opened in the top-left corner of the screen rather than in the centre, as in Opera 12.17 where they’re more visible. And large images did not fit-to-screen in Opera 23 so it was impossible to view the whole image at once.

Today I installed PaintShop Pro X6 on my PC. Then I tried to install PaintShop Pro X6 Disc 2 Ultimate Pack. The installation froze, failed to respond, then suddenly it came to life, but my taskbar icon for Opera 23 had changed to the generic “I’ve no idea what this program is” icon.

Opera 23 did not crash. Opera 23 has been wiped from my PC by PaintShop Pro. I had to spend hours and hours customizing Opera 23 because it’s so completely user-unfriendly, but eventually I had achieved an functioning version of Opera 23 that I could work with.

Now all that work has been destroyed and I have to start all over again. OPERA 23 IS NOT STABLE!

I only use Opera because I think it used to be the best browser available and I’ve used it for longer than I can remember. But this has been a very, very bitter experience.

http://iron2000.blogspot.com/ iron2000

The chrome.runtime.onStartup event is not working in Opera 23!

Bill Berry

Anybody remember the days when Opera fit on a floppy drive…ah the good ol days! From time to time Opera still drives me nuts with my college work that they seem hell bent on using IE, but the darn browser is fast and love those extensions.