Originally posted by ecapsretuo
There is a big error here, people. I went to the site to find that this program is a SIMULATION tool designed BEFORE the actual land. Therefore the
images are NOT from Curiosity, and are not purported to be. Copy and pasted, indeed, by guys intending to roughly simulate the rover's future
landing. The You Tubers here are trippin.mars.jpl.nasa.gov...

Originally posted by Panic2k11
If there isn't a note on the software indicating that it does not represent reality and the intended use of the software is to depict it then the
data is of scientific interest, therefore scientific.

No. That is exactly wrong. You do not assume some data is an accurate representation without explicit information. I can't believe you're even
making this claim.

Google search is also a scientific tool, they provide enough information about how they collect and rank the data. Care to elaborate how you
distinguish if data is scientific or not ? (That would be interesting even if futile)

Google search is not a scientific tool as they transform their input data in a secret way before outputting it. Scientific data is calibrated and with
known attributes. It has to be explicitly released with specific criteria. Not just a picture taken off a website.

The idea that NASA would just copy and paste data in 2012 when apparently they can fake the moon landing in the 60s is laughable. If you did the
tiniest bit of research into this you'd understand why, but apparently you prefer to believe in speculation.

Originally posted by wildespace
Please enlighten us. I'm not a conspiracy believer, but seeing this obvious repetition of imagery I also have to ask, why is it so?

Pretty much all of these cameras in satellites, rovers etc are designed to take fairly close up images to get maximum detail. To produce larger images
they take tens to hundreds of images and then overlap them so they produce a bigger image.

This is why you see triangular sections of pixellation, it's higher resolution images mapped over lower resolution ones. This is also why you often
see duplication at the seams of joining, because the automatic matching algorithm has picked an incorrect point.

This happens with panoramas taken on Earth all the time, especially if they are not correctly processed before joining.

It's nothing to do with the rover's landing. They could have used the images from various orbiters and stretched them over an elevation mesh. I'm
sure Mars Reconnasaince Orbiter has hi-res images of that area. There's no reason to "invent" the view of the crater.

I, and all the "public" want and pretend THE REAL DATA, and THE REAL Hi-Res Image till centimeter of that Area.

How could NASA land the billions dollar rover Curiosity on that surface if NASA don't know the surface of the landing site till to centimeter?

Of course NASA have all these data. And I and all the "public" want and pretend to see that! And NOT photoshop, CGI, or Cartoons!

Originally posted by ecapsretuo
There is a big error here, people. I went to the site to find that this program is a SIMULATION tool designed BEFORE the actual land. Therefore the
images are NOT from Curiosity, and are not purported to be. Copy and pasted, indeed, by guys intending to roughly simulate the rover's future landing.
The You Tubers here are trippin.mars.jpl.nasa.gov...

edit on 22-9-2012 by ecapsretuo because: (no reason
given)

WE WANT REAL DATA AND REAL IMAGES! CGI, CARTOONS, and PHOTOSHOP ARE NOT ALLOWED FOR THIS AGENCY!

Ok, so it is blatantly fake, now what? what do we do now that we have obvious proof?
Do we start a petition? Do we bring it to the attention of some politician? No politician will put his name behind a conspiracy theory no matter how
good your proof is...well maybe Kucinich?
What about a petition drive? if we had a million signatures??

It's nothing to do with the rover's landing. They could have used the images from various orbiters and stretched them over an elevation mesh. I'm sure
Mars Reconnasaince Orbiter has hi-res images of that area.

We want the REAL images of the whole area, till to centimeter from JPL/NASA. And not fakery like real!

There's no reason to "invent" the view of the crater.

Well, my friend, there is a very good reason for this and of "National (World) Security".

It just upsets me how we are not deemed clever, simple or rich enough to be told the truth. Why the secrecy! All that money and technology wasted on
more false images.....
NASA tell us the TRUTH. We can handle the truth!!!

Does anyone know Moot at 4chan? they made gangam style video go world wide and mainstream by posting it on /b/ for a couple of days, if they did the
same for one of these videos NASA couldn't hide anymore, they would have to explain their blatant lies.

Originally posted by Thunderheart
Does anyone know Moot at 4chan? they made gangam style video go world wide and mainstream by posting it on /b/ for a couple of days, if they did the
same for one of these videos NASA couldn't hide anymore, they would have to explain their blatant lies.

Except nobody seems to be able to show "blatant lies" by NASA. In fact all they can show is that they don't even understand how to find original
images.

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