We were asked to join in 1975 and we've elected pro-EU governments ever since. UKIP, even taking PR into account, is still outnumbered and outvoted. That's not an absolute subscription by any means, but if Britain was that fed up of the EU it has had nearly half a century to democratically oppose it. We've given it our tacit approval, quite clearly.

Even polarised, you can at best, concede between 30-50% of the country wish to leave the union, but we won't know for certain until June. At least for one thing it will finally put it to bed, you'll need to pack in the 'never been asked' stuff afterwards at least.

Don't get me wrong String, I'm not gushing over the EU, there's many issues, and I think we've been owed a referendum for a few years now. I think the having one before/during the Lisbon Treaty would have been right. That was a good point where we could argue the EU had fundamentally shifted enough to warrant a fresh mandate.

However parroting myths and hyperbole over it being a soviet style dictatorship is naive, and it's the exact sort of nonsense that Leave.eu etc have actually been careful to avoid: they know it's easy to disprove, makes eurosceptics look stupid, and basically just undermines their position.

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If it walks like a Nazi,
talks like a Nazi,
salutes like a Nazi,
it's probably an FBIPLANTBYJEWSWHOALSODID911BTW

It wont be put to bed though. You think people like Stringfellow and Enoch will wake up on June 24th and say 'Fairs fair, we were wrong about the silent majority, the people have spoken etc'

Its already started - Enoch suggesting that retards have been implanted into the no campaign to sabotage it. And then it'll be the fault of the media giving a biased view. The output of the Mail, the Sun, the Express and the Times will be conveiently ignored, simply because the Guardian said 'Yes!'....

No books audited for decades...
Unelected president and commissioners (aka soviet style)...
Were never asked to enter the EU (undemocratic-dictatorship)...

Why the unknowns?!

You don't trust them? Xenophobe!!!

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If you look up the definition of community it means a group with shared interests, beliefs and identity. It means having something in common. The very opposite of diverse, which means difference. Therein lies the contradiction of modern society - we celebrate everyone being different and yet are surprised when our sense of community is disappearing.

Not owning myself (ever!), from your lovely Labour MEP:
"According to the European Court of Auditors, around 0.2% of the EU budget may have been subject to fraud. Any amount of possible fraud is unacceptable and needs challenging. But it’s worth noting that the figure of 0.2% is much lower than most national budgets!"

So to me anyway:
- How are these "courts" signing it off when they know a possible fraud has taken place?
- Why is this fraud washed under the carpet by saying it is 'only' 0.2%.
- Why is then the pro-EU MEP trying to justify it?

This is the type of hyperbole the pro-EU dictators get away with, whilst the sheep sleep in their pretty little fields.

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They were no match for the Lady.iCraig's Level of Comprehension: "where was that? do they mean the character?"Chuckles' depth of political insight: "Islamism is basically the same thing as the right wing ideology"

Last edited by Stringfellow Hawke; 26-02-2016 at 14:11.
Reason: Put an E in MP, before fireworks start :P

Oh and PS, care to point out the OTHER points I raised, of course you can't because the dictatorship is in plain sight, but let us address the minor point, more smoke and mirrors for the sheep, baaahhhhh.

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They were no match for the Lady.iCraig's Level of Comprehension: "where was that? do they mean the character?"Chuckles' depth of political insight: "Islamism is basically the same thing as the right wing ideology"

My favourite bit is when he realised that his bombastic claim was completely unfounded, he tried to dodge.

You should be in politics, Mr Fellow...

*n

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They were no match for the Lady.iCraig's Level of Comprehension: "where was that? do they mean the character?"Chuckles' depth of political insight: "Islamism is basically the same thing as the right wing ideology"