(Original post by EC)
I don't find it just as easy to say it's rape as you do apparently.

Because most of us know the definition for the UK. Fitting your scenario to the law, then it clearly meets the requirements and as has been pointed out all the other details show it would be pronlematic if it ever came to a prosecution.

So if you look at the definition they key point is whether A believed at the moment he penetrated B. What B thopught after is immaterial for whether it was rape or not. That is why you can read your post and call it rape quite clearly without worrying about the rest. Its less complicated than you make out. It might have a bearing on whether there was any action ever taken, but that is a different matter.

If person A didn't want to do it in the beginning then it's rape and due to his behaviour before hand it probably means he would end up doing it again and controlling her more and more to a point where she would get no enjoyment and it would defiantly be rape and an abusive relationship

(Original post by EC)
I don't find it just as easy to say it's rape as you do apparently.

But it -is- very easy. Let's turn the scenario on its head:

Person B has consensual sex with person A. It turns out to be disappointing and she doesn't enjoy it and does feel let down and angry with the person she had consensual sex with.

Is that rape?

Because if it -isn't- rape, then you have a de facto case for saying that there is no after-the-fact rule with regards to rape. If someone says no, they mean no and regardless of how they feel about it afterwards, it fits the definition of rape.

However, it would be very difficult to bring charges in that case. Not least because the girl herself wouldn't press charges in all likelihood.

(Original post by 999tigger)
Because most of us know the definition for the UK. Fitting your scenario to the law, then it clearly meets the requirements and as has been pointed out all the other details show it would be pronlematic if it ever came to a prosecution.

(Original post by EC)
LINE 2 WOULD BE "Person B does not allow Person A to leave, which" and basically she could defend herself.

...Don't yell.

Also, no...I get that she could have defended herself, he, whoever. But it turns out they didn't, as most people probably wouldn't get away. But I see now that you're the type who strictly puts the blame on the person: "she got violently raped. But meh she could have defended herself so who cares."