Comments on Ending State violence against women in prostitution in San Franciscoofficial state media for a secessionist republic of one2015-02-06T17:51:26Zhttp://radgeek.com/gt/2008/10/24/ending_state/feed/WordPressBy: Rad Geek People's Daily 2012-12-17 – December 17th is the International Day to End Violence Against Sex WorkersRad Geek People's Daily 2012-12-17 – December 17th is the International Day to End Violence Against Sex Workershttp://radgeek.com/gt/2012/12/17/december-17th-end-violence-against-sex-workers/tag:radgeek.com,2008://geekery_today.20081024092006#comment-784562012-12-17T18:10:50Z2012-12-17T18:10:50Z[…] GT 2008-10-24: Ending State violence against women in prostitution in San Francisco […]
]]>By: Rad Geek People’s Daily 2008-12-11 – In which I court public opinionRad Geek People’s Daily 2008-12-11 – In which I court public opinionhttp://radgeek.com/gt/2008/12/11/in_which/tag:radgeek.com,2008://geekery_today.20081024092006#comment-47342008-12-11T22:18:52Z2008-12-11T22:18:52Z[…] GT 2008-10-24: Ending State violence against women in San Francisco […]
]]>By: Rad Geek People’s Daily 2008-11-10 – On sound and furyRad Geek People’s Daily 2008-11-10 – On sound and furyhttp://radgeek.com/gt/2008/11/10/on_sound/tag:radgeek.com,2008://geekery_today.20081024092006#comment-44502008-11-12T20:26:11Z2008-11-12T20:26:11Z[…] crew to confine themselves to offering help to those who are looking for help, rather than having a dangerous street gang grab people off the street for their own particular […]
]]>By: pgpgtag:radgeek.com,2008://geekery_today.20081024092006#comment-44072008-11-04T19:52:27Z2008-11-04T19:52:27ZState-run prostitution only makes the state the pimp. Test the johns, arrest the johns and pimps, enforce the existing laws against rape and assault (even if it’s a prostitute “no human involved” that is raped or assaulted), and help the prostitutes that want out get out.
]]>By: Being Amber Rhea » Blog Archive » Covering Prop KBeing Amber Rhea » Blog Archive » Covering Prop Khttp://www.beingamberrhea.com/2008/10/31/covering-prop-k/tag:radgeek.com,2008://geekery_today.20081024092006#comment-43962008-11-03T18:43:39Z2008-11-03T18:43:39Z[…] Rad Geek: “Ending State violence against women in prostitution in San Francisco”: While I certainly agree that coerced sex trafficking is an evil that needs to be seriously […]
]]>By: "Nick Manley" - The Curious "Deviant""Nick Manley" - The Curious "Deviant"http://www.lifeloveandliberty.com/tag:radgeek.com,2008://geekery_today.20081024092006#comment-43832008-11-02T17:50:33Z2008-11-02T17:50:33ZProudhon is a real irony. He’s the godfather of classical anarchism.

This is his famous declaration:

“Another famous quote was his “dialogue with a Philistine” in What is Property?:

“Why, how can you ask such a question? You are a republican.”

“A republican! Yes; but that word specifies nothing. Res publica; that is, the public thing. Now, whoever is interested in public affairs – no matter under what form of government – may call himself a republican. Even kings are republicans.”

“Well! You are a democrat?”

“No.”

“What! “you would have a monarchy?”

“No.”

” A Constitutionalist?”

“God forbid.”

“Then you are an aristocrat?”

“Not at all!”

“You want a mixed form of government?”

“Even less.”

“Then what are you?”

“I am an anarchist.”

“Oh! I understand you; you speak satirically. This is a hit at the government.”

“By no means. I have just given you my serious and well-considered profession of faith. Although a firm friend of order, I am (in the full force of the term) an anarchist. Listen to me.”

This is the first time that anyone declared themselves a serious political anarchist.

The irony is that the same guy who said the above is also a traditionalist moralist Christian patriarch.

Here are quotes that will make any anarcha-feminist cry scoundrel:

“Between man and woman may exist love, passion, the bond of habit, whatever you like; there is not true society. Man and woman are not companions. The difference of sex gives rise between them to a separation of the same nature as that which the difference of race places between animals. Thus, far from applauding what is now called the emancipation of woman, I should be much more inclined, were it necessary to go to this extremity, to put woman in seclusion.”

“This signifies that woman, by nature and by destination, is neither associate, nor citizen, nor public functionary.”

I am studying French in college right now. I’ve not been the best student, because of my depression, but I am pulling myself together in pursuit of beauty again. It’ll be cool to read Proudhon in the original French.

]]>By: Anon73Anon73tag:radgeek.com,2008://geekery_today.20081024092006#comment-43792008-11-02T09:06:08Z2008-11-02T09:06:08ZBy the way, apparently prostitution was somewhat well-tolerated in many ancient civilizations, and in Europe until the rise of STDs in the 16th century:

In the 19th century, legalized prostitution became a public controversy as France and then the United Kingdom passed the Contagious Diseases Acts, legislation mandating pelvic examinations for suspected prostitutes. This legislation applied not only to the United Kingdom and France, but also to their overseas colonies… A similar situation did in fact exist in the Russian Empire; prostitutes operating out of government-sanctioned brothels were given yellow internal passports signifying their status and were subjected to weekly physical exams.

]]>By: Anon73Anon73tag:radgeek.com,2008://geekery_today.20081024092006#comment-43782008-11-02T02:27:45Z2008-11-02T02:27:45ZI’m sure there was some figure like Proudhon who said we can’t articulate exactly what a free society will be like since the one we have is so mired in statism; I sort of get the feeling we’re arguing over how many angels (prostitutes?) can dance on the head of a pin. As Marja notes, given the right conditions perhaps both prostitutes AND johns will be tested in a free society.
]]>By: MarjaMarjatag:radgeek.com,2008://geekery_today.20081024092006#comment-43772008-11-02T00:20:06Z2008-11-02T00:20:06ZOkay, that was garbled. Unscrupulous clients might pay extra for prostitutes to leave the tests unstamped, and other parties might do the same to see which prostitutes take the extra money and …
]]>By: MarjaMarjatag:radgeek.com,2008://geekery_today.20081024092006#comment-43762008-11-02T00:17:42Z2008-11-02T00:17:42ZI remember asking the same question.

There tend to be fewer prostitutes than clients - regardless of the habits of individual johns or janes - so it’s easier to test all the prostitutes than all their clients.

However, it may be more effective to test clients. e.g. prostitutes could charge more for clients who have older STD test records, or refuse service entirely.

You can probably imagine more detailed systems including watermarked test records, prostitutes stamping records before sex (so other prostitutes know if their client has had professional encounters since his/her last test). Then unscrupulous clients might pay extra for prostitutes to leave the stamps unchecked, and another part might do the same to see which prostitutes take the extra money and …