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Re: Do you really want the Biscuit to step in?

Originally Posted by Captain Silver

Sorry ESMD, but at this point, firing Cam and letting Caldwell and Flacco come up with any game plan is better than letting Cam damage this team's record anymore. This isn't going to get better or fix itself.

Sorry ESMD, but at this point, firing Cam and letting Caldwell and Flacco come up with any game plan is better than letting Cam damage this team's record anymore. This isn't going to get better or fix itself.

Who knows...you may be right. I doubt it, but that could be true. Ain't gonna happen though.

"On their way to the podium, the Ravens FO is going to collectively step over my dead body and select...Breshad Perriman." -- Me, the day before the Draft

Re: Do you really want the Biscuit to step in?

Originally Posted by saintmatthew

You have to wonder though if Matt Cavanaugh wasn't the problem an maybe, say Kyle Boller was...

Isn't Cavanaugh the OC for the Jets? Sanchez has regressed badly this year, so that would mean that either Sanchez was never that good either, or that Cavanaugh couldn't develop two first round pick QBs.

Re: Do you really want the Biscuit to step in?

that really worked out for NO didnt it? Having no OC and allowing your Elite QB (which Flacco isnt) to run the offense, and a highly talented team/scheme at that, led to a lot of wins.

I think if we were going to fire him, after houston would have been the latest to do it. 4 games left and in playoff position, all we can do now is cross our fingers and hope for the best this season and that he finally gets canned afterwards.

Re: Do you really want the Biscuit to step in?

Bisciotti is not going to do anything until the off-season. These last few weeks and (hopefully) the playoffs will have as much (or more) impact on people's fates (players and coaches) as to what has happened up to now.

Re: Do you really want the Biscuit to step in?

And I know nobody wants to hear this, but with that defense, I wasn't exactly bullish on our SB chances anyway. Anything can happen, and still can, but with the guys we're running out there every week, even if the offense was doing well, it would still be a long shot. This season has been a struggle from the start with offseason losses, injuries to key players, some young players regressing (Cody, McPhee, Jimmy Smith, etc). This offseason will be a big one. They need to make some tough choices, hope some of these young guys step up, and again, a good draft is vital. They've had some misses recently.

Never get in a fight with a pig; you both get muddy, and the pig likes it...

Re: Do you really want the Biscuit to step in?

One thing that has bothered me is the defensive play this season. I never thought we'd see such terrible defensive play. I understand that a new DC is in and we've had a lot of injuries, key guys who are out or playing through stuff. The most frustrating thing however is that it feels almost like we have neglected that side of the ball and instead have tried to build this dynamite offense through the draft and FA. We also have had some misses lately too which obviously hasn't helped. Pitt still has a pretty strong defense, other teams like SF and Houston have strong defenses. The even more frustrating part is that we don't have a dynamite offense. We're right where we usually are, in the middle of the pack. I think we have built a talented offense, but we just don't have the driver to guide it.

So now, we have not as talented of a defense with an offense that hasn't displayed a whole lot with the talent it has. I hope we can really restock defensively and get back to playing Ravens defense.

Re: Do you really want the Biscuit to step in?

Originally Posted by Jsmoove

they should at this point , thiS play not to lose shit is down right fucking ridiculous, this shit has to get some people fired how the fuck does piss pees not blitz a 38yr old QB? you have your corners playing 15yrd off the fucking ball? Pees should be fired after that bullshit, fuck even mattison did better than that. Then you got killa cam yeeeaahhhhhh!!! fuck him he needs to go this fucking loss was embarassing to say the least A 38YR OLD FUCKING QB WHO CAN'T THROW SHIT OVER 20YRDS???? SOMEONE SHOULD BE MADE AN EXAMPLE FOR THIS BULLSHIT.

I like a man who can express himself and capture the feelings we were all having while watching that craptacular excuse for a defense. Not blitzing batch was inexcusable. both co-ordinators have to go.

Re: Do you really want the Biscuit to step in?

Kevin Gilbride was the QB's coach for 2 or 3 seasons before taking over in 2007...the year that they won the SB. Before that it was John Hufnagel, who did "ok" with Eli, but Eli didn't start reaching his potential until Gilbride took over the offense.

Re: Do you really want the Biscuit to step in?

Originally Posted by esmd

Good lord, you guys must have huge dentist bills as much as you gnash your teeth. Look, Cam is going to be gone this offseason. He hung on because they didn't want to make a change during the lockout and then last year they were a dropped pass away from the SB, and he got a reprieve. Harbaugh is NOT going to throw him under the bus publicly to satisfy you all, nor is he going to fire him during the season. Nor should he, on either count. Yeah, I know, 2006. One time it worked. Doesn't mean it would work here and now.

I'm not saying Harbaugh is perfect, because he's not. None of them are. Billick wasn't, Ozzie isn't. But he's a good coach. They're running the worst defense we've had since '02 or '98 out there every week, Cam is a problem, and yet they're still 9-3. Christ, you'd think we were rooting for a team in Ohio or something.

It's going to have to happen before I believe it. There have been a few in the media who have been asked if Cam would be fired after this season. Their response, "not unless the Ravens lose out". Now normally I wouldn't put a lot of stock in what media heads are saying. The difference here is we have the media reporting this AND we have history supporting this. If he hasn't been fired before what makes people think they'll suddenly see the light and fire him now?

The answer is they won't. Bisciotti doesn't have the tamper-with mentality that Angelos has. If Ozzie hasn't changed his opinion on Cam over the last 4 years then his opinion won't be changed. Harbaugh is loyal to a fault and won't get rid of him.

The only way I see him being fired is if the organization is publicly embarassed by losing 4 in a row, blowing the division lead and/or losing in the first round of the playoffs.

It's kinda sad. I certainly don't want to root for the Ravens to lose just to get rid of Cam but on the flip side I definitely don't want to keep Cam either. That's a huge dilemma that a lot of fans are facing right now. It's a catch-22 situation.