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First off many of you know I am not beyond violence. I am for true anarchy (not blowing crap up but instead not having da man tell me what I can and can't do) Violence has it's place.

Without violence we the U.S. would still be under British/Spanish/French rule.

Without violence we might still have slavery (Yes I know the civil war was not about slavery, however slaves fought and earned some freedom and respect)

Without violence other violence goes without consequese.

Back to the sniper. Now say this person wants to stop gas consupmtion (seems to favor gass station shootings) fine. People don't listen. Death scares people. I don't agree with the means but I can see a crazy kind of logic there.

The bastard shot a kid. 13 year old kid, blew his back out. He is fireing basicaly an M-16. Same rounds. Must be using a scop.

The day he shot the kid he left the death tarrot card with a note on it.

"Hello Mr. police officer, I am God"

This fucker shot a inocent kid. He kills about 5 a week. 2 weeks now he has not killed or tryed on the weekend. This tells me he has

a.) a Familyb.) A brain and knows more traffic on the weekendc.) something preventing him.

He undertands one shot and leave. He only takes one shot then bails. This tells me he is trained somehow. Most people would take a second shot if the first isn't fatal. He has a spoter to confirm kills. The news. More on that.

He has the ability to make a sht in a crowded area and escape without anyone seeing..... A couple people have lived, He is shooting center mass. That is both what hunters and soldier do. Snipers take head shots. Pro's take 2 shots. one head one center mass.

Now with the news. This guy is not your typical postal worker. What I mean is he is playing chess. He makes a move, watches the board (news). Then he makes adjustments. The news says he will not venture outside a certain mile radius. Next day a person is shot outside that radius.

To target kids and unknowing bystandars.. That is a coward. One man was talking to his wife in the car at the passenger window. She saw his chest explode onto her and the car. The kid was at school. That means he targeted a school. And Goddamnit he just shot a woman in Fairfax Va.

I just found out. If he makes it to the weekend watch. He will not kill on Saturday or Sunday. I find this to be a major clue.....

i really think you made a somekinda logic outta this all, i mean he really seems like playing chess, he must have some way or something about how he choses his VICTIMS right ??? He's probably not after revenge to someone or anything as i can tell by your post, but i think he's mad as hell about something or he's tryin to prove something.He must be a Pro or something or maybe ex-soldier, ex-cia or dunno... or somekinda killa.

One thing i can say for sure is that this guy has no fucking Mercy. to kill a 13 years old kid ? ohh damn that's so fuckin terrible. And yeah i think you made a really good point when you said that he watches the news and makes adjustments, thats probably what he does, he goes kinda STEP by STEP. I think that in the end of this all we'll just have one crazy motherfucker and the police will say that he's a serial killer and blla blla shit like that. He ain't doin this for funn probably, it just doesn't make any sense.

Btw, as these kinda peoples usually do, he probably has a way to choose his next victims, he shot kids, a man and so on... hmmm this makes me think a lot.

The motherfucker is after kids, the police should be more around schools and shit, but since he' shots from sniper and he's damn good.. i really dunno what the hell is gonna happen. But this for sure got me interested so please learner keep me notified about this whole thing ok.. i really wanna know what happens later.

P.S. Snipers fascinate me... i'm crazy about them, if i had one i'd maybe become like the guy we're talkin about !!! (but never shoot kids).

The sniper's eighth victim was a 13-year-old boy who was shot in the abdomen after his aunt dropped him off to start the day at a middle school in Maryland's Prince George's County on October 7.

His aunt, a nurse, rushed him to a local hospital. He was airlifted to a Washington hospital where doctors removed his spleen and parts of his stomach and pancreas. He was in critical but stable condition and was on a ventilator.

holy shit, in CNN i found lots more as you said learner... damn it's interesting...

btw: i read that the boy is dead anyway...

Listen now some of my own fuckin theories.

I was looking at the Interactive: The Sniper's Trail

in the CNN website, and i found some interesting things, i was checking in the maps and reading about the victims who they were and how it happen tryin to get to some point...

He isn't choosin they're victims from the same place, profesion or something, one of em was a program analyst, the other one a carpetner, the other one a cab driver... and so on.. it doesn't make any sense, but there IS something that makes sense .. listen..

If you read good you'll realise that most of his shots happen when the victims were in the parking lots or filling up cas or something, i could read that about 5 of em were shot to death while doing such things, i mean they were near the gas stations or so when they got shot. So this would be correct if his next victim is shot near the gas station again ... gotta wait and see.

and one more terrible thing..

Could this guy maybe be a member of AL QAEDA ?

i hope he's anyone else but a member of that, that would be really terrible, coz this all seems like a revenge in innocent people, AL QAEDA did this once so i would't be surprised if they do it againt, damnn... it's so fucken interesting..

------------Screen speculationAttention has turned not only to video games but also to movies in an attempt to find clues to the killer's behavior. In "Malice," a 1993 thriller which aired October 3 on the TBS cable network -- a sister AOL Time Warner company with CNN -- Alec Baldwin plays a surgeon who comes under fire during a legal deposition.

"You ask me if I have a God complex?" Baldwin's character says. "Let me tell you something: I am God!"

The film's broadcast several days before the inscribed Tarot card was discovered near a Maryland school where a 13-year-old boy was shot was enough for some to conclude that it might be related. (About Tarot cards)

The theories didn't stop there. The buzz surrounding Tarot was so intense as a result of the sniper case that the American Tarot Association posted a page of "fast-facts" on its Web site.

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you see the thing that baldwin said in the movie "I am God!" << now that's something pretty much same as the note that the killer left...

Well I think gas station and parking lot is just an easy shot. He also shot a guy moving his yard. I mean when you pump gas what are you doing... Standing still. Parking lot too. it you are loading a car with bags you are in one place for a few minutes.

There are theories about AL QAEDA but dosen't seem thiere style. They usaly attack many people at once to cause terror. This is too.... slow and puney to be thier style.

I think this is a Hunter that wanted to hunt bigger game. Or something along those lines.

First of all, I think pretty much anyone who kills when it is not out of necessity, has a type of Christ complex. Come on, it is only natural to get an adrenaline rush and feel like God. It is about as close as one can come. So I don't think that is a big deal.

I believe there are two. Sounds like there is a driver in a cream colored van/truck. I am sure he must signal to the shooter. They also think they alternate.

Odd thing. They found a van fitting the description. They find a rifle, ammo same as sniper, sniper manual, tarot card, a sign that's message hasn't been made public, and a sign on dashboard saying "Gihad in America" (Think means holy war). And they say it isn't the guy. Sounds like the guy to me or atleast one of the guys. However there was an incident that took place while this guy was being questioned. So perhaps the 2nd guy acted alone?

If he gets caught it will be1] on his own terms2] coincidence(see Ted Bundy)

I am sure he must communicate somehow with the driver to know when is a good time to take a shot and who. So the police should be attempting to figure out how this is done. Unfortunately no matter how they communication, its too large a radius to realistically monitor.

I think he scouts locations and doesn't plan on victims. Its just whoever happens to be their during his window of opportunity.

He knows enough to know that if you have a pattern, it will lead to you getting caught, so he is trying to mix it up also. He doesn't care. A life taken is a life taken.

Obvious he is sick b/c he shot the child in front of the person dropping him off. I believe he did this on purpose and he felt more powerful by taking a kids life. And his latest dealt with shooting a woman while her husband was less than 3 feet away. So I expect children and women to become his targets from now on probably.

"Gihad in America" << if it's correct this thing that you said, that i'm telling you the situation will be fucked up, Gihad i heard this word somewhere, i know it pretty good from somewhere i just can't recall in the moment damn, but i'm sure that's something related to avaganistan and so on.. i told ya guys, AL QAEDA slept it's fingers in whole this deal, the guy is problably one of em, or i hell dunno. i'll search a bit.

You said they found the rifle, a van that fits the description, some ammo and so on, he could maybe leave fingerprints or maybe no...

i'm sure police knows how to do this better than us, that's for sure, all we can do here is talk, suggest, think of possiable theories that might lead to something.

I don't know about women but as i said above too, i think he's after kids, lets wait till his next target which i truly hope there wont be any.

Yes i agree with you on that too, lets not foget we're talking about a seriall killer here. I don't know learner but i think it's spelled GJI HAD, maybe we're spelling it in the same way but we're writting it differently.

check it out people....this shit actually affects me. i live all of 12 miles away from DC, the last guy killed was at the Home Depo a couple miles away. its crazy as hell. everybody is all freaked out and edgy. (i was right) 10 shot, 8 dead, 2 seriously wounded. hes soposidly driving around in either a chevy white astro van with west VA tags or a white box truck. i think 2, maybe 3 kills ago a cop was near by givving some guy a ticket and the cop hear the shot and saw the person fall all of 50 yds away from him. hes starting to get sloppy. still no one saw the killer but people have seen the astro van at many of the killings. many major highways have been shut down for miles and DC already had one of the worst traffic situations in the country. the cops were getting hundreds of calls yesterday every time a car back fired or a window broke. people are saying that there are 2 people, one shooting, one driving. odds are that there going to go down fighting. theres what i know, from someone in the neiborhood. half the people killed have been at places i have been to before.

if this continues, there going to cancel my schools football season, last game was canceled because of it.

lets not get stuck on the fact that he shot a kid, to turn this lets look at all the incidents of children commiting murders and such

he's just saying, that regardless of race, age, or sex you could be a target.

now lets also not get hung up on the fact that these people could be nice or that they're kids or whatever. I keep seeing these people sobbing on tv about how some guy that took one to the kidneys was such a nice guy...blah blah blah shut up!

I mean honestly, HE'S PICKING THEM AT RANDOM he doesn't care how high your karma is, you get in his crosshairs you die. End of story. Media's just hungry for sound bites

now to learners comment about a scope, so far he's been hitting people at like 150yrds

now with a .223 you could probably do that open sights with a spoter, and being a decent shot...that would explain why he's taking body mass shots

oh, and last night he got a women in the head, moving target

I'm not really convinced it's Al-Quida, in fact I hope it's not...Bush and his Thugs could jump right on gun control bullshit if it was

But lets consider the posiblity of Al-Quida, could this be the next step in their plan? Snipers in range of the major cities around our country? doesn't seem like a bad idea to me....

the logic of the gas stations could make sense, but I think the idea that they're standing there for some time makes more sense. Just like the women he got on the bench

Quote:

Members of the Guardian Angels and the New Black Panther Party are on the pump patrol this morning. Members of the volunteer public safety organization are pumping gas at stations near the beltway off Route 1. Four of the 10 sniper attacks have taken place at gas stations located within feet of an interstate or major roadway.

anyway, all in all I'm kinda in awe of this guy, finaly a serial killer that doesn't just muder in some sloppy, messy way, then hit as many and as fast as he can...get his serial killer title and then get caught

he's playing it quite well, watching his ass, and watching the media work for him...."loose lips sink ships"

I seriously doubt it is a he as much as a them. To clear out this many times this soon he has to have help. I agree it is random. The kid leads me to think it is noe Al-Quida. Reason is killing kids will not help thier cause.

Al-Quida claim to represent a religious world. Killing kids would do nothing but pull support away from that. Now I know kids died on 9/11 but they didn't target them. Ever hear of a terrorist targeting a school? How much security is in a school. It would be an easy target.

I agree more gun controll will probably come out of this... Shame realy. Another thing about Al-Quida is I think we would have heard something by now. I mean they usally claim thier work. Even if subtle. Like see what happens to infedles.

I doubt they would claim to be god. Of course I'm sure I could be wrong. I am stuck on the kid because he went out of his way to target a kid. He was targeting a school...

As for the sloppiness of a cop being right there, I am sure that was intentional. There was also a cop present by the Home Depot shooting. He is looking for a higher thrill. That is why I suggested kids and women. Now he may not target them, but he will surely try to up the adrenaline rush. I don't know how much more he can do before it controls him.

Seriously how long can he increase the rush he gets by using just one bullet and one person.

Also, I wasn't sure where the Tarot card was placed, but it was evidently very close to near where the boy was shot. Yet another example of needing a bigger rush.

Also the Home Depot intersection was supposed to be one of the busiest in that area.

May sound sick, but I am very interested to see how this "sniper" ups the ante.

Bush commented that no new gun laws will become of this.

Quote:

The president also questions the need for new gun laws in general, Fleischer added.

"How many laws can we really have to stop crime if people are determined in their heart to violate them no matter how many there are or what they say?" he asked.

lol, very sick...i cant wait either...who knows, maybe he'll show up at my school and pull out an asult rifle...you all talk but it dosnt effect you at all...if someone i know gets shot im gonna be pissed. on the other hand, im still rooting for the killer. im always on the bad guys side.

Hmmm I have always had great interests in Serial Killers and I am personally still searching for info as most of the information posted here is from CNN :-P and I aint the biggest fan of CNN.

But well some intresting theories, will "participate" soon!

The use of "hacker" to mean "security breaker" is a confusion on the part of the mass media. We hackers refuse to recognize that meaning, and continue using the word to mean, "Someone who loves to program and enjoys being clever about it."--------------------"Its not a bug, its a feature" (Epic Games)

This guy will eventually let himself get caught. Yes, let himself.He loves the rush, he loves seeing his exploits in the news, he loves the guessing. Eventually the only way tpo "up the ante" will be to let people know who he is. What's the point if you never get credit for it?

As for what he does next . . . the media says what he's never done, what he can't do, he does it. Probably get's great kicks from it.

Anyways, I'm willing to guarantee that he does, sooner or later, let himself get caught. (he's already leaving more evidence, makes the chase more exciting.)

"There is no end. There is no beginning. There is only the infinite passion of life." --Fellini

i gotta disagree with you TBG. I think hes gotten into this so much that theres no way hes just going to let it end. when they catch him, and they will catch him unless he stops killing,and we all know that will not happen, he will kill as many cops as possible before they kill him. hes gonna go down fighting.

interesting facts about his random victims: lady killed survived cancer...you cant excape death. she was also involved with the FBI and she was shot in a stationarry car. a black guy killed had 6 children, one of which was albino. so hes a really really white black guy. "see that freckle? thats my real skin color. really I'm black. what, you dont believe me?"

They now have 2 descriptions of the killers van, one is a chevy astro van with a roof rack and a brocken left tail light, the other is a dodge van with a roof rack

I was over by 7 corners(place of most recent killing) on saturday....im there all the time

and i hell agree with you ohfuk, he's in deep shit by now, and he probably ain't even thinking about giving up.

damn i'm just still thinking to come to a close conclusion about this guy or something, too many theories, i don't know, but most of his victims are killed in standing position i think, and most of em close or in their cars. But one thing i don't undestand is, why kids damn, why kids ?

Now lots of people everywhere are making lots of good theories and analysis about this case but still there isn't so much stuff to lead to the serial killer.

And now i'm wondering, in the beggining he just left a note, than he was leaving no evidence and now he start leaving em, well maybe as TBG said he's trying to make the case more existing. But hell yeah now i'm really convinced that someone is helping him, even if not in killing, probably on escaping or something (i'd say the van he's using is the dodge one with a roof rack ohfuk).

What do you think guys, does he have a specail method or something to choose his victims or he just gets out for hunting and shots the first one he sees ? i think he has a way or something how he selects his next victims... what do u think ?

Last nite i saw a movie pretty much like this one, there was this fucking crazy serial killer, he was killings women, he was choosin his victims by bussiness cards and the motherfucker than killed them, after he killed em he was dressing them pretty good to make em look like someone dunno old special dolls, and he was leaving them in parks and so on in a sitting position, the motherfucker was trying to transform them to his favourite dolls, damn such crazy shits ...

well i kinda got outta topic, sorry for that.

see ya

P.S. hope they'll get this motherfucker soon.

oh and yes, ohfuk if i were in your place man i'd get the fuck outta there, 7 corners away, are you fuckin crazy ???