Re: [UFOnet] Re:Reply.....SINISTER "ALIEN" LOVE BITE

Hi again, Banshee. I have read that the human race has been under the unseen and unknown dominions of aliens since our inception. I do not know that this is

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, Aug 5 10:10 AM

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Hi again, Banshee. I have read that the human race has been under the unseen
and unknown dominions of aliens since our inception. I do not know that this
is true, but if so it would make sense as to why we are continually in strife
with one another. I also read, in the Urantia Book, that this planet and
solar system is actually under the dominion of Satan, called Satania, but did
not start out as a totally negative one, and that Satan was given this planet
and solar system in hopes that he would 'see the light' and come back into
the fold of true and positive beingness. There is supposed to be a
time-element in operation here; of course, I do not profess to know what or
how long it is, but at the end of whatever time that is mentioned in the
Urantia Book, Satan will either 'go with the flow' or perhaps be destroyed.
I'd like to point out that the passages of this book are very many and
diverse, yet seem to coincide with the many passages of the
Bible/Torah/Quran/Buddha, etc. It is a very deep book, and has so much
information that it boggles the mind! One cannot read it all in one sitting,
believe me! It also mentions that the human race has had 'many creators' and
hence that is/may be the reason why there are many types of creations on this
planet, and why we cannot get along with each other, seemingly.

I know that there are other realities far beyond our ken. The human mind
only uses 1/2 of its total brainpower; when the day comes that we can use our
100% total brain power, we will then know and understand the many things that
now elude us.

Blessings,
~Nei

Neiema@aol.com

Hi, Roger ~ The Light I spoke of is an ever-shining Force, and comes from He who created all the Universes, known and unknown. Some might call him, The

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, Aug 5 11:37 AM

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Hi, Roger ~

The Light I spoke of is an ever-shining Force, and comes from He who created
all the Universes, known and unknown. Some might call him, The Supreme
Being, or The Infinite. This is a force that ..... "is, was, and ever will
be ......"

Darkness is an inferior and reflective force of the Light.

Thanks,
~Nei

Banshee

I really DO believe you, why shouldn t I. There are so many different types of aliens, maybe I do not know the evil ones. Haven t heard from abduction with

Message 3 of 23
, Aug 5 11:58 AM

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I really DO believe you, why shouldn't I. There are so many different types
of aliens, maybe I do not know the evil ones. Haven't heard from abduction
with children. It sounds a little like war. But I am not afraid of the dark,
never have been too. I can't do anything about that. It is my feeling and I
can't change my feelings, I'm sorry. I have seen enough and heard enough to
have an opinion about this, but I am thinking it over again because of what
you told me. Not everything we think is the good way, so maybe I am
wrong......I'll think this over, very hard and come back to you. Friendly
greetings, Banshee

Roger Anderton

Dear Nei In other words uses a battery that never runs down. Speculating that such an entity exists, how do we know whether IT is not also the Darkness. Like

Message 4 of 23
, Aug 5 12:09 PM

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Dear Nei

In other words uses a battery that never runs down.

Speculating that such an entity exists, how do we know whether IT is not
also the Darkness. Like ying and yang - appearing as duals, but really being
aspects of the same thing?

> Hi, Roger ~
>
> The Light I spoke of is an ever-shining Force, and comes from He who
created
> all the Universes, known and unknown. Some might call him, The Supreme
> Being, or The Infinite. This is a force that ..... "is, was, and ever
will
> be ......"
>
> Darkness is an inferior and reflective force of the Light.
>
> Thanks,
> ~Nei
>

Roger Anderton

Dear Banshee War is part of Evolution - survival of the fittest. Its a cruel universe. Cheers Roger ... From: Banshee To:

> Hi Roger, you are perfectly right, I forgot that there are poeple
> who have had very nasty encounters with aliens, but for the
> greater part, I do believe alien entities are here to help
and
> their message is Love.....The human race is too suspicious
nowaday'
> s and maybe this is a reason for being so afraid of the dark. People
hate
> and fight eachother, everywhere on earth. Even at your own
home-surrounding,
> there's always anger........you pay attention and you'll notice. And I
> really, really don't see why this is.......My logica is not good I guess,
I
> can't understand why people teach their children to fight in a war, I
don't
> understand War at all. I know humans have been fighting eachother as long
> as humans live.....but why and how this began, I have no clue....I simply
> don't understand. And we have to be afraid of the dark for our own defense
> you say. I agree with you, really, but I don't understand.....I am a
> difficult person I guess, maybe I don't belong here, hahaha. Well.maybe
you
> think now that I am a lunatic, but I assure you, I am not. I hope to hear
> from you again, if you didn't run away by now............Friendly
greetings,
> Banshee
>
>

Roger Anderton

There s nothing on that web site about what you talking about. Roger ... From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 5:52

> Hi, Banshee ... sorry to disagree, but you are very much IN THE DARK
> yourself, as regards to your observations. First of all, Darkness is a
VERY
> REAL FORCE, and it houses very negative energies and entities.
>
> Point in Fact #1 ~ When I was a "Jew By Choice" some years ago, I
celebrated
> Yom Kippur and observed all the dictates of that holiday. Although I had
> become aware back east of the true manner of things, I voluntarily
followed
> the Hebrew religion. I turned all the lights off to fully observe Yom
> Kippur, and began the process of "afflicting my soul". In the darkness of
my
> room, I perceived energies and forces that were not benevolent, but seemed
> bent on either my full destruction, or on disabling me in body, spirit and
> soul. In no way am I intimating that these forces were of Jewish origin;
they
> seemed to be something "other" than of the Jewish way, and so I
immediately
> called upon THE LIGHT of the Most High God, He who created ALL the
Universes,
> both known and unknown (which means those outside of our ken). My spirit
> reached up for this Light, and as I made contact, the Light suffused
around
> me, and I then saw these spirits/entities who were of negative origin and
> demeanor ...... RUN AWAY! They scampered away from the Light and seemed
to
> disappear totally. This is one of the ways of how I know that LIGHT
destroys
> darkness.
>
> Point in Fact #2 ~ Although most people seem to believe that we have only
> been visited by 'good' aliens, there is much proof and contradiction to
this
> fact. Yes, there are 'good' aliens -- those who come from and represent
The
> Light, hence being called "Light Beings". There are very many case
histories
> logged which depict the NEGATIVE aliens as being greys and reptoids, which
> attack people without mercy. A few years ago, I read a very disturbing
> account regarding people, especially children, who had been abducted and
> imprisoned in holding areas, behind bars, for cruel use by the alien
> reptoids, who are of a very negative and menacing manner. I personally
know
> several people who have been subjected to cruel manipulations by these
> atrocious thingies, which are more beast than anything else, but who prey
> upon mankind, most times unseen. There are also many people who,
unknowingly,
> are 'hosts' by alien spirits, whose main goal and purpose is to totally
> hamper, confuse, control, manipulate, confound, dominate and destroy
mankind
> in the long run. Since you, I am sure, will not take my word for any of
> this, feel free to visit www.Nightsearch.com, and visit any and all of the
> sites that are represented there. Of special interest: Eve Lorgen and
James
> Bartley's web pages -- they have many case histories readily apparent for
all
> to read. Of course, it is up to the individual as to whether or not they
> believe in the case histories presented before their very eyes. I,
myself,
> have volunteered some of my experiences with these reprehensible thingies;
I
> am no longer afraid of them, for I know that they fear and are repelled by
> the Light.
>
> All of this only reiterates my original statements regarding Darkness and
> negative alien beings. We must all open our eyes to the Truth before it
is
> too late.
>
> ~Nei
>
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Neiema@aol.com

Are you sure? Did you access Eve Lorgen s or James pages? And there s also other info sites there. If you like, I could send you some info I ve collected,

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, Aug 5 1:18 PM

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Are you sure? Did you access Eve Lorgen's or James' pages? And there's also
other info sites there. If you like, I could send you some info I've
collected, or from my own experiences, that directly correlates to my
previous emails .... let me know.

~Nei

TimeStar

Roger wrote: There s nothing on that web site about what you talking about. Krsanna wrote: Stand back, Roger. I m going through with all my angels in 2012,

Message 8 of 23
, Aug 5 1:27 PM

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Roger wrote:

There's nothing on that web site about what you talking about.

Krsanna wrote:

Stand back, Roger. I'm going through with all my angels in 2012, and some
ET's are right behind us in 2027. I've been 100 year floods over bridges
where firemen and sheriffs stood by to stop travelers turned their backs
when I drove through, and I've been through California's earthquakes on
freeways deserted by other travelers.

> There's nothing on that web site about what you talking about.
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Neiema@...>
> To: <ufonet@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 5:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [UFOnet] Re:Reply.....SINISTER "ALIEN" LOVE BITE
>
>
> > Hi, Banshee ... sorry to disagree, but you are very much IN THE DARK
> > yourself, as regards to your observations. First of all, Darkness is a
> VERY
> > REAL FORCE, and it houses very negative energies and entities.
> >
> > Point in Fact #1 ~ When I was a "Jew By Choice" some years ago, I
> celebrated
> > Yom Kippur and observed all the dictates of that holiday. Although I had
> > become aware back east of the true manner of things, I voluntarily
> followed
> > the Hebrew religion. I turned all the lights off to fully observe Yom
> > Kippur, and began the process of "afflicting my soul". In the darkness
of
> my
> > room, I perceived energies and forces that were not benevolent, but
seemed
> > bent on either my full destruction, or on disabling me in body, spirit
and
> > soul. In no way am I intimating that these forces were of Jewish origin;
> they
> > seemed to be something "other" than of the Jewish way, and so I
> immediately
> > called upon THE LIGHT of the Most High God, He who created ALL the
> Universes,
> > both known and unknown (which means those outside of our ken). My
spirit
> > reached up for this Light, and as I made contact, the Light suffused
> around
> > me, and I then saw these spirits/entities who were of negative origin
and
> > demeanor ...... RUN AWAY! They scampered away from the Light and seemed
> to
> > disappear totally. This is one of the ways of how I know that LIGHT
> destroys
> > darkness.
> >
> > Point in Fact #2 ~ Although most people seem to believe that we have
only
> > been visited by 'good' aliens, there is much proof and contradiction to
> this
> > fact. Yes, there are 'good' aliens -- those who come from and represent
> The
> > Light, hence being called "Light Beings". There are very many case
> histories
> > logged which depict the NEGATIVE aliens as being greys and reptoids,
which
> > attack people without mercy. A few years ago, I read a very disturbing
> > account regarding people, especially children, who had been abducted and
> > imprisoned in holding areas, behind bars, for cruel use by the alien
> > reptoids, who are of a very negative and menacing manner. I personally
> know
> > several people who have been subjected to cruel manipulations by these
> > atrocious thingies, which are more beast than anything else, but who
prey
> > upon mankind, most times unseen. There are also many people who,
> unknowingly,
> > are 'hosts' by alien spirits, whose main goal and purpose is to totally
> > hamper, confuse, control, manipulate, confound, dominate and destroy
> mankind
> > in the long run. Since you, I am sure, will not take my word for any of
> > this, feel free to visit www.Nightsearch.com, and visit any and all of
the
> > sites that are represented there. Of special interest: Eve Lorgen and
> James
> > Bartley's web pages -- they have many case histories readily apparent
for
> all
> > to read. Of course, it is up to the individual as to whether or not they
> > believe in the case histories presented before their very eyes. I,
> myself,
> > have volunteered some of my experiences with these reprehensible
thingies;
> I
> > am no longer afraid of them, for I know that they fear and are repelled
by
> > the Light.
> >
> > All of this only reiterates my original statements regarding Darkness
and
> > negative alien beings. We must all open our eyes to the Truth before it
> is
> > too late.
> >
> > ~Nei
> >
> >
> > UFOnet is an open, international, free news and discussion list
dedicated
> to:
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> > Aerospace Research and Space Flight, Free & New Energy, Exoscience, etc.
> > To subscribe, send a blank e-mail message to:
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> >
> > Website (Dutch only): http://www.ufonet.nl/
> > Messages to the list-owner: jkumeling@...
> >
> > Word voor fl 20,- lid van de UFOnieuwsbrief. Zes maal per jaar in de
echte
> brievenbus het laatste nieuws uit de ufologie, astronomie, ruimtevaart en
> aanverwante onderwerpen. Kijk op www.ufonet.nl!
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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Neiema@aol.com

Hi, Banshe. I know that it is a lot to understand all at once, especially as it pokes holes through the theories we have all been led to believe as gospel for

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, Aug 5 1:52 PM

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Hi, Banshe.

I know that it is a lot to understand all at once, especially as it pokes
holes through the theories we have all been led to believe as gospel for so
long. Don't feel bad if you do not 'get it' at first; it took me a while to
understand the true manner of things, and I am still actually learning and
discovering new things. It's really sad to know that children are the
commodity in many of these disappearances; I won't go into it in detail at
this time, as it is still very distressing to know about, let alone relate.
But it is sadly very true, nonetheless.

I pray that the good aliens will always be around and near you. Knowing the
power of darkness, especially while one sleeps, I would suggest that you keep
a night light on even if you are not afraid of the dark. Those who dwell in
the dark can invade one's spirit, especially as they lay sleeping; therefore,
a small table light beside the bed can help to avert 'nightmares' and the
like. The darklings, as I like to call them, always operate through our own
misunderstandings and ignorance of the Truth. This is how they exert their
control over and through us. I had a Teacher/Guru back east, and the one
thing that always sticks out in my mind is this simple sentence of his:
"Always know which thoughts are YOURS, someone else's, or some outside force
attempting to take control over yourself". I have discovered that this
simple sentence has afforded me much insight and help in gaining true mastery
and control over my being.

I wish the same for yourself, and all others.

Blessings,
~Nei

Neiema@aol.com

Hi again, Roger. Light is a distinctly different force from Darkness. There are energies in both -- positive for the Light, negative for the dark. I have had

Message 10 of 23
, Aug 5 2:03 PM

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Hi again, Roger.

Light is a distinctly different force from Darkness. There are energies in
both -- positive for the Light, negative for the dark. I have had many
years' experience with this Superior Light force, and as previously
recounted, have discovered that only Light can destroy Darkness, and the dark
forces which reside therein. In George Lucas' Star Wars, you will note that
the combative weapon used most successfully was a Light Saber. I have read
somewhere that Star Wars was taken from true accounts, perhaps more ET-wise
than we know, just as Close Encounters and ET, the Exterrestrial, were also
supposedly drawn from life. Just try a simple exercise to see this principle
in work for yourself: Walk into a darkened room with a flashlight (speaking
of flashlights, lol!). When you switch the light on, you will note how the
darkness recedes from the light.

Blessings,
~Nei

"There is no religion higher than The Truth"
-H.P. Blavatsky, The Secret Doctrine

Neiema@aol.com

Dear Roger ~ I just want to comment on this post: ... war is a part of evolution ... sorry, but I do not agree with that; war does exist in the universe, but

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, Aug 5 2:16 PM

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Dear Roger ~

I just want to comment on this post: "... war is a part of evolution ..."
sorry, but I do not agree with that; war does exist in the universe, but it
cannot be observed to be a part of 'evolution'. To evolve, is to grow and to
better oneself and their surroundings. War does not bring evolution, but
hatred, death, misery, alienation, poverty, disease, and many more ills of
humankind. In our universe, and in several others, there is much war and
strife. In the HIGHER astral worlds and existences and in other COSMOS, there
is no war, only the true harmony with THE ONE. War can be likened to the
other negative energies and machinations which bring the eventual collapse
and destruction of the Human Race. There are 'infernal' and negative alien
beings who perpetuate these types of operations, for they know that it is
easier for us to kill ourselves off than for them to attempt to do so. This
has also occurred in other universes, for the battle between Light and
Darkness has been a long, ongoing one. We can best help to avert our own
destruction by rising above and conquering our warlike stances, and by truly
attempting to EVOLVE over our lower, baser urges. In this way, we will be
freeing ourselves from the unseen and often unknown manipulations of those
dark forces which conspire against us, and which wish to bring us to our own
end.

Blessings,
~Nei

Roger Anderton

Dear Nei The theory of Evolution is about accidental mutations from the norm. Those mutations best able to survive against environment and competition tend to

Message 12 of 23
, Aug 7 12:30 PM

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Dear Nei

The theory of Evolution is about accidental mutations from the norm. Those
mutations best able to survive against environment and competition tend to
survive, and those less able die. War is one of the mechanisms of weeding
out those mutations.

There is growth and there is destruction, both are parts of Evolution. Both
are parts of Nature.

As you walk along the grass viewing a lovely landscape on a lovely sunny
day, you might think to yourself how lovely Nature is. I look closer and see
the insects, all eating one another or being eaten. Under the surface of
that beauty is a battlefield of creatures eating or being eaten - 'dog eat
dog'. That is Nature 'red in tooth and claw.'

Nature appears good to the winners - those who have done all the eating, but
evil to those who have just lost and been eaten.

> Dear Roger ~
>
> I just want to comment on this post: "... war is a part of evolution ..."
> sorry, but I do not agree with that; war does exist in the universe, but
it
> cannot be observed to be a part of 'evolution'. To evolve, is to grow and
to
> better oneself and their surroundings. War does not bring evolution, but
> hatred, death, misery, alienation, poverty, disease, and many more ills of
> humankind. In our universe, and in several others, there is much war and
> strife. In the HIGHER astral worlds and existences and in other COSMOS,
there
> is no war, only the true harmony with THE ONE. War can be likened to the
> other negative energies and machinations which bring the eventual collapse
> and destruction of the Human Race. There are 'infernal' and negative alien
> beings who perpetuate these types of operations, for they know that it is
> easier for us to kill ourselves off than for them to attempt to do so.
This
> has also occurred in other universes, for the battle between Light and
> Darkness has been a long, ongoing one. We can best help to avert our own
> destruction by rising above and conquering our warlike stances, and by
truly
> attempting to EVOLVE over our lower, baser urges. In this way, we will be
> freeing ourselves from the unseen and often unknown manipulations of those
> dark forces which conspire against us, and which wish to bring us to our
own
> end.
>
> Blessings,
> ~Nei
>

TimeStar

If you search the literature on evolution you will find that bigger brains and smaller stomachs are the generally accepted indices of advancing hominid

Message 13 of 23
, Aug 7 8:09 PM

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If you search the literature on evolution you will find that bigger brains
and smaller stomachs are the generally accepted indices of advancing hominid
evolution. Based on the size of their craniums, the Grays would probably
have IQ's in the neighborhood of 300 on our scales, according to what Bill
Hamilton of Skywatch once told me. There's not much to say about their
stomachs. The theory of natural selection was written by Charles Darwin's
assistants, and even Darwin had serious questions about it. It still
remains a theory among many theories about evolution, such as Rupert
Sheldrake's morphogenetics.

America is now a sovereign nation because England had gotten so mired in war
for so long that King George just did not have the resources to fight
another war in the the colonies that became America. Historians conclude
that it was logically unfeasible for the underfunded, undertrained colonists
could win a war against England in the 1776. George Washington lost every
battle he ever fought with scraggly Minutemen who had no uniforms and were
hungry most of the time.

Thanks to King George's love of war, the American underdogs gained their
independence.

> Dear Nei
>
>
> The theory of Evolution is about accidental mutations from the norm. Those
> mutations best able to survive against environment and competition tend to
> survive, and those less able die. War is one of the mechanisms of weeding
> out those mutations.
>
> There is growth and there is destruction, both are parts of Evolution.
Both
> are parts of Nature.
>
> As you walk along the grass viewing a lovely landscape on a lovely sunny
> day, you might think to yourself how lovely Nature is. I look closer and
see
> the insects, all eating one another or being eaten. Under the surface of
> that beauty is a battlefield of creatures eating or being eaten - 'dog eat
> dog'. That is Nature 'red in tooth and claw.'
>
> Nature appears good to the winners - those who have done all the eating,
but
> evil to those who have just lost and been eaten.
>
>
> Cheers Roger
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Neiema@...>
> To: <ufonet@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 10:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [UFOnet] Re:Reply.....SINISTER "ALIEN" LOVE BITE
>
>
> > Dear Roger ~
> >
> > I just want to comment on this post: "... war is a part of evolution
..."
> > sorry, but I do not agree with that; war does exist in the universe, but
> it
> > cannot be observed to be a part of 'evolution'. To evolve, is to grow
and
> to
> > better oneself and their surroundings. War does not bring evolution, but
> > hatred, death, misery, alienation, poverty, disease, and many more ills
of
> > humankind. In our universe, and in several others, there is much war and
> > strife. In the HIGHER astral worlds and existences and in other COSMOS,
> there
> > is no war, only the true harmony with THE ONE. War can be likened to
the
> > other negative energies and machinations which bring the eventual
collapse
> > and destruction of the Human Race. There are 'infernal' and negative
alien
> > beings who perpetuate these types of operations, for they know that it
is
> > easier for us to kill ourselves off than for them to attempt to do so.
> This
> > has also occurred in other universes, for the battle between Light and
> > Darkness has been a long, ongoing one. We can best help to avert our
own
> > destruction by rising above and conquering our warlike stances, and by
> truly
> > attempting to EVOLVE over our lower, baser urges. In this way, we will
be
> > freeing ourselves from the unseen and often unknown manipulations of
those
> > dark forces which conspire against us, and which wish to bring us to our
> own
> > end.
> >
> > Blessings,
> > ~Nei
> >
>
>
>
>
> UFOnet is an open, international, free news and discussion list dedicated
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Errata: I should point out that George Washington lost every battle he fought until Valley Forge. At Valley Forge, the top-notch Germany mercenaries had a

Message 14 of 23
, Aug 8 4:18 AM

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Errata: I should point out that George Washington lost every battle he
fought until Valley Forge. At Valley Forge, the top-notch Germany
mercenaries had a beer party at Christmas while George Washington's army was
crossing the river in the middle of the night praying their would be able to
get everyone across the river before dawn.

George Washington's army surrounded the drunken Germans at dawn and, I don't
believe more than 10 shots were fired. The Germans had slept in late and
probably couldn't even take aim to fire a shot in their drunken stupors.

Thus, George Washington's first victory in the revolutionary war had little
to do with military skill, but the Germans just had too much fun at a beer
party at Christmas and Washington's colonists were so desperate that they
were willing to take heavy risks for a victory that the comfortable Germans
did not expect them to take.

Before they marched into the German's camp, George Washington had a vision
of America's future that he wrote down. George Washington, in particular,
had a band of angels riding on his shoulders in the early morning dawn when
the drunk Germans surrendered to him for his first victory in the
revolutionary war.

> If you search the literature on evolution you will find that bigger brains
> and smaller stomachs are the generally accepted indices of advancing
hominid
> evolution. Based on the size of their craniums, the Grays would probably
> have IQ's in the neighborhood of 300 on our scales, according to what Bill
> Hamilton of Skywatch once told me. There's not much to say about their
> stomachs. The theory of natural selection was written by Charles Darwin's
> assistants, and even Darwin had serious questions about it. It still
> remains a theory among many theories about evolution, such as Rupert
> Sheldrake's morphogenetics.
>
> America is now a sovereign nation because England had gotten so mired in
war
> for so long that King George just did not have the resources to fight
> another war in the the colonies that became America. Historians conclude
> that it was logically unfeasible for the underfunded, undertrained
colonists
> could win a war against England in the 1776. George Washington lost every
> battle he ever fought with scraggly Minutemen who had no uniforms and were
> hungry most of the time.
>
> Thanks to King George's love of war, the American underdogs gained their
> independence.
>
> Regards,
>
> Krsanna
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Anderton" <R.J.Anderton@...>
> To: <ufonet@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 1:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [UFOnet] Re:Reply.....SINISTER "ALIEN" LOVE BITE
>
>
> > Dear Nei
> >
> >
> > The theory of Evolution is about accidental mutations from the norm.
Those
> > mutations best able to survive against environment and competition tend
to
> > survive, and those less able die. War is one of the mechanisms of
weeding
> > out those mutations.
> >
> > There is growth and there is destruction, both are parts of Evolution.
> Both
> > are parts of Nature.
> >
> > As you walk along the grass viewing a lovely landscape on a lovely sunny
> > day, you might think to yourself how lovely Nature is. I look closer and
> see
> > the insects, all eating one another or being eaten. Under the surface of
> > that beauty is a battlefield of creatures eating or being eaten - 'dog
eat
> > dog'. That is Nature 'red in tooth and claw.'
> >
> > Nature appears good to the winners - those who have done all the eating,
> but
> > evil to those who have just lost and been eaten.
> >
> >
> > Cheers Roger
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Neiema@...>
> > To: <ufonet@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 10:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: [UFOnet] Re:Reply.....SINISTER "ALIEN" LOVE BITE
> >
> >
> > > Dear Roger ~
> > >
> > > I just want to comment on this post: "... war is a part of evolution
> ..."
> > > sorry, but I do not agree with that; war does exist in the universe,
but
> > it
> > > cannot be observed to be a part of 'evolution'. To evolve, is to grow
> and
> > to
> > > better oneself and their surroundings. War does not bring evolution,
but
> > > hatred, death, misery, alienation, poverty, disease, and many more
ills
> of
> > > humankind. In our universe, and in several others, there is much war
and
> > > strife. In the HIGHER astral worlds and existences and in other
COSMOS,
> > there
> > > is no war, only the true harmony with THE ONE. War can be likened to
> the
> > > other negative energies and machinations which bring the eventual
> collapse
> > > and destruction of the Human Race. There are 'infernal' and negative
> alien
> > > beings who perpetuate these types of operations, for they know that it
> is
> > > easier for us to kill ourselves off than for them to attempt to do so.
> > This
> > > has also occurred in other universes, for the battle between Light and
> > > Darkness has been a long, ongoing one. We can best help to avert our
> own
> > > destruction by rising above and conquering our warlike stances, and by
> > truly
> > > attempting to EVOLVE over our lower, baser urges. In this way, we will
> be
> > > freeing ourselves from the unseen and often unknown manipulations of
> those
> > > dark forces which conspire against us, and which wish to bring us to
our
> > own
> > > end.
> > >
> > > Blessings,
> > > ~Nei
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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If you will allow me to indulge, I would like to point out one more pertinent fact about how George Washington turned the tide in the Revolutionary War that

Message 15 of 23
, Aug 8 4:40 AM

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If you will allow me to indulge, I would like to point out one more
pertinent fact about how George Washington turned the tide in the
Revolutionary War that won America's independence from the England's
mega-power in the 18th Century. As I pointed out, and which is well
documented, Washington's army lost every battle before Valley Force.

The Revolutionary army was hungry, had virtually no supplies, and had been
badly defeated with heavy casualties. Crossing the river at Christmas was
logistically foolhardy at best. His aides did not want to take the chance
on losing everything they had in the river that night.

Washington made the statement, as I recall, that his men had followed him
through many terrible defeats they had suffered in the revolutionary war.
But if Washington crossed the river that night his army would go with him,
because they loved him. This is an obvious paraphrase, but I believe the
sentiment is intact. And it was true.

In this sense, one might say that the risk Washington took to turn the tide
in the Revolutionary War was an act of love in the true sense of what love
is. They certainly did not win the battle with military skill or might,
because they didn't have much of either. But Washington loved the idea of
independence and the army that followed him loved the ideal as much as he
did.

Love was all Washington's army had for their march. Washington's vision
before they marched on the German camp is well worth the reading.

Regards,

Krsanna

> Errata: I should point out that George Washington lost every battle he
> fought until Valley Forge. At Valley Forge, the top-notch Germany
> mercenaries had a beer party at Christmas while George Washington's army

was

> crossing the river in the middle of the night praying their would be able

to

> get everyone across the river before dawn.
>
> George Washington's army surrounded the drunken Germans at dawn and, I

don't

> believe more than 10 shots were fired. The Germans had slept in late and
> probably couldn't even take aim to fire a shot in their drunken stupors.
>
> Thus, George Washington's first victory in the revolutionary war had

little

> to do with military skill, but the Germans just had too much fun at a beer
> party at Christmas and Washington's colonists were so desperate that they
> were willing to take heavy risks for a victory that the comfortable

Germans

> did not expect them to take.
>
> Before they marched into the German's camp, George Washington had a vision
> of America's future that he wrote down. George Washington, in particular,
> had a band of angels riding on his shoulders in the early morning dawn

> > and smaller stomachs are the generally accepted indices of advancing
> hominid
> > evolution. Based on the size of their craniums, the Grays would

probably

> > have IQ's in the neighborhood of 300 on our scales, according to what

Bill

> > Hamilton of Skywatch once told me. There's not much to say about their
> > stomachs. The theory of natural selection was written by Charles

Darwin's

> > assistants, and even Darwin had serious questions about it. It still
> > remains a theory among many theories about evolution, such as Rupert
> > Sheldrake's morphogenetics.
> >
> > America is now a sovereign nation because England had gotten so mired in
> war
> > for so long that King George just did not have the resources to fight
> > another war in the the colonies that became America. Historians

conclude

> > that it was logically unfeasible for the underfunded, undertrained
> colonists
> > could win a war against England in the 1776. George Washington lost

every

> > battle he ever fought with scraggly Minutemen who had no uniforms and

> to
> > > survive, and those less able die. War is one of the mechanisms of
> weeding
> > > out those mutations.
> > >
> > > There is growth and there is destruction, both are parts of Evolution.
> > Both
> > > are parts of Nature.
> > >
> > > As you walk along the grass viewing a lovely landscape on a lovely

> > see
> > > the insects, all eating one another or being eaten. Under the surface

of

> > > that beauty is a battlefield of creatures eating or being eaten - 'dog
> eat
> > > dog'. That is Nature 'red in tooth and claw.'
> > >
> > > Nature appears good to the winners - those who have done all the

> > and
> > > to
> > > > better oneself and their surroundings. War does not bring evolution,
> but
> > > > hatred, death, misery, alienation, poverty, disease, and many more
> ills
> > of
> > > > humankind. In our universe, and in several others, there is much war
> and
> > > > strife. In the HIGHER astral worlds and existences and in other
> COSMOS,
> > > there
> > > > is no war, only the true harmony with THE ONE. War can be likened

to

> > the
> > > > other negative energies and machinations which bring the eventual
> > collapse
> > > > and destruction of the Human Race. There are 'infernal' and negative
> > alien
> > > > beings who perpetuate these types of operations, for they know that

it

> > is
> > > > easier for us to kill ourselves off than for them to attempt to do

so.

> > > This
> > > > has also occurred in other universes, for the battle between Light

and

> > > > Darkness has been a long, ongoing one. We can best help to avert