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Oh, About That “New” Healthcare Plan Push…

In effect, Sundance is saying even Rand Paul, Mike Lee and Ted Cruz are OWNED by K-street. President Trump HAD TO KNOW THIS even before he ran. Question is, what does he have up his sleeve to get around these constituent-haters?

Personally, I say do nothing. LET IT FALL IN ON ITSELF! That way, President Trump can start over from scratch.

Until 'whatever' happens, we need to stop bashing our heads against the wall.

There are many people rightly concerned about legislative issues seemingly stuck in the mud. However, what many of those same people seem to forget is the basic reality of President Trump’s America-First agenda being opposed by professional republicans even more than it is opposed by professional Democrats. DC is a UniParty.

Republican and Democrat political leadership, the UniParty writ large, have been paid to protect the legislative priorities of the multi-billion lobbying group known as K-Street.

The fallacy of false choice lies behind the concept of controlled opposition.

Prior to Donald Trump there was only one political party in DC, the Uniparty. President Trump represents the alternative; the second party.

For almost five years we have been pointing out the construct. The UniParty have three unwavering primary objectives as purchased by the lobbying groups: 1) Retention of Obamacare; 2) Budgetary spending to retain growth of government; and 3) comprehensive immigration reform to include amnesty.

These three primary legislative issues are not up for debate, modification or discussion. The legislative outcomes have been purchased, multi-million-dollar investments made, and the interests behind the legislative constructs will not allow any elimination or concession.

Beyond that reality, the rest is simply political optics and gamesmanship. If you refuse to accept this baseline, you will continue to find yourself frustrated as you try to reconcile what is not happening.

Congress, as salesmen for the interests funding their activity, does that which is important to it; and congress does not do that which is antithetical to its pre-purchased interests.

President Trump, through his proposed policy objectives, is antithetical to those interests.

FULL STOP.

Essentially, President Trump has requested the following:

A budget with actual baseline reductions in spending. Where Trump’s cabinet, individually and collectively, will actually reduce scale, scope and reach of federal government.
Healthcare reform to include the elimination of ObamaCare and a return to free market principles to drive down the cost of insurance products.
Funding funding to enhance enforcement of existing immigration law and a border wall to ensure the long-term reductions in the ease of illegal, unauthorized migration.

All three of those requests are opposed by Republicans and Democrats in congress. You can beat your head against the wall in frustration, but the reality doesn’t change. The big money interests who write legislation have paid all members of congress to block these basic principles of President Trump policy.

EXAMPLE – You might remember seeing Senator Rand Paul on TV for 10-consecutive-days (March), proclaiming that RyanCare must be defeated. Toward that end Senator Paul put on a tuxedo went to the House of Representatives, lobbied them personally, and handed out instructions and books telling Hillary’s Favorite Caucus (HFC) if they simply blocked President Trump and Secretary Price he (Paul) would, within two weeks, provide a clean repeal bill from the Senate. Senator Rand Paul said he and Senator Ted Cruz and Senator Mike Lee already had the legislation written for the clean repeal. Senator Paul stated if the House members simply followed his plan he would guarantee the “repeal only” bill would advance within two weeks.

Remember that?

Well?…

This is the same UniParty that approved Trade Promotion Authority, a Republican Bill, that allowed President Obama to construct TPP and congress reversed the threshold for approval – making it necessary for two-thirds of the Senate to oppose passage to stop it, instead of two-thirds necessary to approve passage. Why would a republican controlled congress make it easier for Obama-Trade to pass and make it harder to stop?

This is the same UniParty that has refused to accept the ‘Notification of Intent’ letter from Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross permitting him to renegotiate NAFTA. Why would a republican controlled congress block President Trump from re-negotiating NAFTA?

Go back and look at the lobbying money spent by the U.S. CoC.

You see, this is where CTH refuses to be co-dependents in our own abuse. We fully understand, and more importantly ‘accept’, the DC UniParty congress has no intention of: Providing a budget to lower spending; repealing and replacing ObamaCare; allowing enforcement of immigration law to include deportation and a southern border wall.

It can be difficult to accept these realities. It can be difficult to confront your abuser. However, until the larger electorate understand the structural concept of the UniParty, there will be hours-upon-hours of talking in circles, and tens of thousands of column inches typed in an effort to reconcile the irreconcilable and avoid accepting the diagnosis:

OK, so what! What now?
Anybody that has been reading here for the last 2+ years knows all this. There is nothing really new in this article. So for the next two years, nothing will get done, except what PDJT can do with EO’s which is minimal. We’ve done everything these bastards said they needed in order to change government and they fricking lied again. That ain’t new either. Anybody here thinks that the knuckleheads in Arizona, Wisconsin are gonna vote out Flake or Ryan are kidding themselves. The only way to stop these leeches in Washington is to stop sending them our hard earned money or get out the pitchforks, tar, feathers, and rope and march on Washington. Otherwise, two years from now we will read the same thing, they will promise the world, and we will be snookered again; except PDJT will get blamed for not delivering on his promises, the “resistance” will most likely deliver the House and/or the Senate to the socialists/commies and all the fricking hard work over the last few years goes down the crapper!

fleporeblog says:
April 20, 2017 at 3:59 pm

Steve in Lewis I feel your frustration believe me. I wrote the following last night and stand by it because this is the one arena these bastards can’t stop our President. This is where he will outlast all of them. What he will do internationally will be breathtaking and not just Americans but the world will thank him for it for years to come. The man has the will and desire for his domestic agenda. The issue is that these bastards have the ability to stop him.

Thank you SD for connecting some of the dots for us! It is truly amazing how much our President has done in such a short period of time. It is also amazing to watch his cabinet positions work so naturally with one another. Egos are checked at the door in order to MAGA.

The respect that President al-Sisi has shown our President is breathtaking. Over 8 times between the meeting in the Oval Office and his interview with Bret Baier he called our President “Your Excellency”. There is no way in hell that President al-Sisi would have ever called Obozo that.

I have no doubt he will be able to bring all of this together with peace between Israel and Palestine, China will get NK to denuclearize, ISIS will be destroyed across the world, all NATO countries will pay their 2% by the time the 12 month window closes. Syria will finally have stability. This will all get done in the first 4 years. The reason I believe this is because Congress can’t get in his way. He has incredible men and women in his administration that have control of these outcomes.

I knew a thread like this was coming! I sit here so frustrated that these morons have total control of the outcome to healthcare, funding and decisions to cut gov’t waste. Our President has and continues to do everything humanly possible to help our country. He is being totally honest that he needs healthcare taken care of because of the cost benefit associated with it (close to $900 billion dollars). Without that piece, the overall tax cuts will be a fraction of what he would hope to get done for us.

The GOPe played their hand recently with the 6th congressional district in Georgia. They were hoping and praying that the democrat would crack the 50% marker needed to win and not have a runoff. Notice how Senator Jodi Ernnst decided the morning of the election to state that she wished our President would spend less time at Mar-a-Lago. She was praying for the democrat to win because she would have been seen as a hero and a possible presidential candidate in 2020.

Tuesday night scared the crap out of all of them. Cracking 50% would have been their leverage to say that Americans are sending a message that they are tired of the clown show and want change as quickly as possible. Our Lion in a handful of tweets and robocalls neutralized 8.3 million dollars and the Uniparty dreams. Reality hit them square in the face. Our President is not being blamed for the healthcare fiasco. #Buildthewall is trending on twitter.

At this point their dream scenario has come and gone! We will win all remaining congressional races prior to 2018. Lou Dobbs shared the other night that 8 Democrat Senators up for reelection in 2018 have approval ratings less than 50%. Paul Ryan’s approval rating was 29%. Lower that Bohner (36%) and Pelosi (35%) at the same time when they were the Speaker of the House under a new administration. Our President is only getting stronger and what he is about to accomplish in NK, Syria and Israeli/Palestinian relations and peace will blow the country away. He will be a hero to the world and many more Americans.

Katrina Person and her pack are running $3 million dollars worth of ads supporting 12 republican congress members that have shown they have our President’s back. I can go on and on but my blood pressure is resigning because I don’t see how we can overcome these POSs!

I am beyond disgusted with Joni Ernst. What a disappointment she has turned out to be. Ted Cruz was chiming in with his criticisms of POTUS on the very same day the Ernst statements were made public. She is such an idiot. When will she learned those individuals at the town halls are paid by Soros to be there. I doubt the true Iowan constituents are that upset about POTUS’ trips to Maralago. They should have to answer for the frequent vacations they are taking and the lack of getting anything done. One R senator, I believe it was Lankford who was chiming in with the dems on POTUS’ releasing his tax returns of all things.

We need to clean house folks!

Red says:
April 20, 2017 at 3:54 pm

What a sorry bunch and just think of it, we pay their salaries, fly them home every weekend, they wine and dine on our money, live their fine fancy lifestyles, and always wheel and deal behind our backs.

All the while we keep our noses to the grindstone struggling to make ends meet paying bills, medical expenses, taking care of elderly parents who can barely afford to pay their bills. We try to give what we can to charitable organizations and try to do the right thing for our families, friends, neighbors and communities.

If the Republicans want to ensure solid wins in 2018 & 2020 they need to put in a Medicare for all type plan. Going backwards such as they appear to be doing will prove to be a disaster for them. Most of the voting public are middle of the road people. The far right does not represent them, no more than the far left does.

Republicans (spit) do not want to win because then they would have to take responsibility and actually GOVERN.

They had rather be the losing party because then all they have to do is bitch about the Dhimmicrats. And JOIN THEM.

The wonder of our time isn’t how angry we are at politics and politicians; it’s how little we’ve done about it. - Fran Porretto
-http://bastionofliberty.blogspot.com/2016/10/a-wholly-rational-hatred.html

I doubt there will be anything better in the future. It's one big joke actually.

This. There is a uniparty, that's for sure, and Trump has successfully convinced many people that he is not one of them. He was groomed for this position at this time, craftily used psychological tactics and propaganda to convince many that he is for the people, and the election was rigged to get him in. He was groomed for many, many years.

There is a lot of proof of this, but people are choosing to look the other way. Pretty soon, there will be nowhere else to look for a pretty view.

“My religious belief teaches me to feel as safe in battle as in bed. God has fixed the time for my death. I do not concern myself about that, but to be always ready, no matter when it may overtake me. That is the way all men should live, and then all would be equally brave.” - Stonewall Jackson

I just cannot understand why these paid protesters were allowed to happen! How hard would it be to say "Folks, we have had too many townhall meetings taken over by outside interests. To make sure people from your district get a chance to talk to your representatives and have you voice heard, we are limiting admission to people actually residing in the district. Appropriate I.D. Will be required to make sure your district gets a voice. We regret so many disrupters and paid protesters have been utilized by those who wish to wish to force their own agendas. We have decided to use a method that the DNC convention and many other elected officials (name the democrats who have used this technique here) have found to weed those outside the district from causing these problems. Until this problem has been solved, this is the safest and best way to make sure your voice is heard."

It can't be racist if the left did it. And, yes! Require voters I.D. If they are not interested enough in voting, please don't waste those who actually do vote time or space allotment at these meetings. They don't deserve a voice if they choose/chose not to participate!

Thinking it out, I suppose I answered my own question. Nothing happens by accident.

By having the paid disrupters, it took the pressure off the representatives having town halls. They didn't have to explain their reluctance to repeal Obamacare. No angry voters trying to hold their feet to the fire. La Voila! No need to worry about angry constituents, who now had a new focus to channel their anger at - the paid protesters.

Elected officials never intended to reverse it in the first place, and now had a ready made scapegoat to deflect angry voters.

holecare is here to stay, too much money and power over the people for the uniparty to end it. Communism plain and simple.

The obvious reasons a government should never be involved in health care will begin to made apparent soon enough if you are in pain.

Wa state and it appears it is going federally, has banned all pain killers unless you have cancer, are in hospice (euthanasia) or post op 7 days only. My doctor told me, they are kicking in doors of doctors/pain clinics here, taking away their license to practice. This is on the heels of the fake news reports of the opiate death crisis sweeping the nation. People like myself that take no more than 3 5mg tabs a week have been lumped in with overdosing heroine addicts.

My doctor said people such as veterans in constant pain are now killing themselves, are forced into the streets to fine heroine and some are dying from the deadly fake pain killers. Lidoderm patches that cost $10 5 years ago now cost $300. medicare will not pay for them. They are killing us off folks.

"His golden colored hair and beard gave to his appearance a celestial aspect, His eyes grey clear. He came from racial lines which had blue eyes and golden hair. This granted unlimited freedom provoked the Jews, Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the Jews."http://www.thenazareneway.com/likene...ur_saviour.htm

If the Republicans want to ensure solid wins in 2018 & 2020 they need to put in a Medicare for all type plan. Going backwards such as they appear to be doing will prove to be a disaster for them. Most of the voting public are middle of the road people. The far right does not represent them, no more than the far left does.

Although I am fiercely against a Medicare-for-all plan.... that is the only remaing path. Even insurance co's will support this, as the govt simply subcontracts that plan to multiple insurers, region-by-region, which is what Medicare already does, plus allow pvt insurers to subcontract with their own Medicare Advantage plans, which they already do. Insurance cos make profits off govt payments for this. It is like they are still an insurance co but without risk.

Everybody wins... except the public-patients, who then become a well-herded commodity and a herd to be strictly control by their govt overseers, like is being done to Medicare patients now. And all the healthcare providers become defacto govt employees. Once all private practices are starved out, them hospital employees will become actual govt employees forced to pay union dues to support legislators and forced to vote for those candidates that protect their jobs with pitful allowances.

A govt takeover of 20% of our total economy is much more than sociazed medicine. If govt is paying for your healthcare, then the people must do as govt requires to protect their "health". I now have patients bitching because their medicare advanatge plans are pushing hard to schedule "home visits" by nurses employed by the insurer to assess the health and safety of the home setting. It is coming, people.

and who is doing this,

is it local cops doing the raiding , dea dip sticks, or what, this is getting to be a real touchy subject, cause so many people being denied meds when they are really hurting,(everyday topic anymore) are ready to go ballistic on these people
who are taking away any pain relief from those who really need it,

like many are starting to say, if it gets bad enough to think of suicide from the pain, they are going find a few of the assholes who made their life miserable and take them with them

Wa state and it appears it is going federally, has banned all pain killers unless you have cancer, are in hospice (euthanasia) or post op 7 days only. My doctor told me, they are kicking in doors of doctors/pain here, taking away their license to practice. This is on the heels of the fake news reports of the opiate death crisis sweeping the nation. People like myself that take no more than 3 5mg tabs a week have been lumped in with overdosing heroine addicts.

My doctor said people such as veterans in constant pain are now killing themselves, are forced into the streets to fine heroine and some are dying from the deadly fake pain killers. Lidoderm patches that cost $10 5 years ago now cost $300. medicare will not pay for them. They are killing us off folks.

is it local cops doing the raiding , dea dip sticks, or what, this is getting to be a real touchy subject, cause so many people being denied meds when they are really hurting,(everyday topic anymore) are ready to go ballistic on these people
who are taking away any pain relief from those who really need it,

like many are starting to say, if it gets bad enough to think of suicide from the pain, they are going find a few of the assholes who made their life miserable and take them with them

Yes, The DEA is now telling the government doctors how they can treat pain for their patients.

"His golden colored hair and beard gave to his appearance a celestial aspect, His eyes grey clear. He came from racial lines which had blue eyes and golden hair. This granted unlimited freedom provoked the Jews, Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the Jews."http://www.thenazareneway.com/likene...ur_saviour.htm

just got back from my coffee shop/rant/gripe place,

showed the guys, this thread, the level of anger went thru the roof, but one person really made a point, and all of us agreed on it,

these dea turkeys, we will pray for them, for them to be afflicted with the pain from those they have denied relief , and may death run away from them, so they may lie in the torment until the almighty says enough,

and if enough people pray , maybe all these people who are so hip in making people suffer, end up hurtin more , with no relief might have a change of heart

hopefully those enforcers read this, and their joints and backs start hurting right away,

showed the guys, this thread, the level of anger went thru the roof, but one person really made a point, and all of us agreed on it,

these dea turkeys, we will pray for them, for them to be afflicted with the pain from those they have denied relief , and may death run away from them, so they may lie in the torment until the almighty says enough,

and if enough people pray , maybe all these people who are so hip in making people suffer, end up hurtin more , with no relief might have a change of heart

hopefully those enforcers read this, and their joints and backs start hurting right away,

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