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The second one of that same article is Section 1,
23 pertains to eliminating the Dawes Commission Rolls as the only
24 means of providing -- or approving citizenship and includes
25 such references as those listed in this book right here called
6
1 "Cherokee Proud, a Guide for Tracing and Honoring Your
2 Cherokee Ancestory." This is authored by Dr. Tony Mac McClure
3 (phonetic) and published in 1997. I was talking to a person
4 interested in tracing their ancestory from this, and I counted
5 that they list 38 different ways of which to trace your
6 ancestory. Some of which already may be included in
7 cross-references in the Dawes Commission. I dare to say
8 there's some in here that's not. But why can't we include
9 other references, so long as they're legal references, instead
10 of just the Dawes Commission Roll? And then as we advance in
11 this stage, begin using the legal reference of Nation as
12 opposed to Tribe, such as in Article 5, Section 6, where it
13 uses the word "Tribe." I think there should be consistency.
14 If we're going to be recognized as the Cherokee Nation
15 throughout the document, we should say either Cherokee Nation
16 or Nation as opposed to Tribe, because that is the legal
17 reference in the Constitution.

further comment as you readers may like...

just the messenger..
http://www.cherokee.org/docs/tribalgovernment/executive/CCC/Written.htm

It is very sad that a person such as Tony Mack McClure can do such a great job of researching his own family and then on the other hand, without any research whatsoever, support claims of false Cherokee groups. That, to me, leads to the belief that he has a certain agenda and opinion against the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. In his book Cherokee Proud on pg 17 he states "A few remained and the state recognized 'Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Purchase' tribe listed later is likely made up primarily of their descendants." On pgs 174 & 175 he states "Six other tribes of Cherokee have state recognition; the Northern Cherokee nation of the Old Louisiana Territory has recognition from both Missouri and Arkansas." On pg 204 he includes the Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Territory in a list of tribes with "official" state recognition.
There is no process, that has been established, whereby Indian tribes can be recognized in Missouri and Arkansas. There are no government to government relationships between state governments and state Indian tribal governments in MO and AR. There are no state recognized tribes in MO and AR. They only exist in the pens of people like Tony Mack McClure.

It is very sad that a person such as Tony Mack McClure can do such a great job of researching his own family and then on the other hand, without any research whatsoever, support claims of false Cherokee groups. That, to me, leads to the belief that he has a certain agenda and opinion against the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. In his book Cherokee Proud on pg 17 he states "A few remained and the state recognized 'Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Purchase' tribe listed later is likely made up primarily of their descendants." On pgs 174 & 175 he states "Six other tribes of Cherokee have state recognition; the Northern Cherokee nation of the Old Louisiana Territory has recognition from both Missouri and Arkansas." On pg 204 he includes the Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Territory in a list of tribes with "official" state recognition.
There is no process, that has been established, whereby Indian tribes can be recognized in Missouri and Arkansas. There are no government to government relationships between state governments and state Indian tribal governments in MO and AR. There are no state recognized tribes in MO and AR. They only exist in the pens of people like Tony Mack McClure.

'Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Purchase'
Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Territory

The Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Territory is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization of individuals who self identify as Cherokee but have not been recognized as a government. Members live primarily in Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas, Oklahoma and Texas. The name of the group originated in 1991 describing a portion of the Northern Cherokee Nation's members, along with the "Northern Cherokee Nation of Arkansas and Missouri" in the same year; a separate splinter became the "Sac River and White River Bands of the Chickamauga Cherokee Indian Nation of Arkansas and Missouri", which had its own split producing the "Chickamauga Cherokee Nation White River Band". The original Northern Cherokee Nation claimed to have been organized since the late 18th century. The headquarters of this group is located in Columbia, Missouri.

Relationship with the federally recognized Cherokees
In 2000 the U.S. census report 729,533 people self identified as Cherokee Indian, more than twice the population of the second most populous American Indian group, the Navajo people, who numbered 298,197. This figure is also more than twice the population of current estimates of all three federally recognized tribes combined. The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma issued a statement asserting that some Cherokee heritage groups are encouraged but those that use words that imply governance are not. In 2008 the leadership of the Cherokee Nation and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians signed a resolution to oppose fabricated Cherokee 'tribes' and denounced state and federal recognition of any new "Cherokee" tribes or bands. The United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians did not participate in the resolution.

Recognition status
Federal recognition of an Indian tribe can be achieved in one of three ways; by recognition through the Bureau of Indian Affairs, recognition through Acts of Congress or recognition through Courts of Law. State recognition of an Indian tribe differs from state to state but fall into one of four methods, namely: passage of State Statutes and Acts, recognition through State Regulatory Processes, recognition through Joint and Concurrent Resolutions, and recognition through Treaties, Proclamations and Executive Orders. In both cases recognition is accomplished by meeting the requisites for any one of the relative methods of recognition. That means that the BIA can recognize a group and yield that group recognition or Congress can pass a bill recognizing the group.

The NCNOLT is not a federally recognized Indian tribe but is considered state recognized by way of executive mandate according to some sources however the Missouri American Indian Council asserts "there are no domestic Indian tribes recognized by the state," insisting that an executive mandate does not constitute the appropriate avenue of recognition but that it must be done by the passage of a state law in the state of Missouri. The NCNOLT has attempted multiple times to clarify state recognition in Missouri and Arkansas but have not been successful. They have received three declarations from different state governors acknowledging "Northern Cherokee Recognition Day" and the presence of the Northern Cherokee since the late 18th century in the states of Missouri and Arkansas and one county, Boone County in Missouri. The Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Territory filed a Letter of Intent to Petition with the Bureau of Indian Affairs on February 19, 1992, but as of September 22, 2008, no decision had been reached, because the group has submitted no documentation (as of February 15, 2007).

According to the document signed by Mel Carnahan the Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Territory is the same tribal entity as the Northern Cherokee Nation that was recognized by Kit Bond in 1983 and the original body from which sprang out other splinter groups.

The "Lost Tribe"
The leader of the Northern Cherokee Nation of the Old Louisiana Territory, Beverly Baker Northup, published a book in 2001 entitled We Are Not Yet Conquered and in the first chapter featured an explanation to the origins of the ancestry of the Cherokee people. Northup explains in this chapter that she believes that a group of Middle Eastern people (she suggests they could have been Sicarii and surviving defenders of Masada) crossed the Atlantic Ocean and intermarried with Indian peoples making up the Cherokee. Northup's suggestion of Jewish ancestry for Cherokee people was featured in the book Weird Missouri and was compared to the Mormon belief system;[10] a similar idea also forms part of the beliefs of Christian Identity and British Israelism. The claimed connection between Amerindians and the 10 Lost Tribes has spread on Indian and Israelite oriented websites alike and has sparked disdain as well as approval.[11][12][13][14

1. Dr. Tony Mack McClure A native Tennessean and mixed-blood Cherokee
descendant, is a certified member of the Native American Journalists
Association
2. After learning from Tony Mac McClure, PhD at a seminar held at the
Lawrence County Library about his book, "Cherokee Proud"
3. Amazon.com: Cherokee Proud, Second Edition: Tony Mack MCCLURE, Ph.D.

All that research and publicity and Cherokee-descendancy proofing.
If he's really for real, could someone tell me where and when Tony
Mack McClure got his "Doctor of Philosophy" degree, abbreviated Ph.D.?

the best suggestion is for folks to take their issues of enrollment to the relevant tribal government.

nope aint going to happen due to the woodchunk gringo injuns invent their own chiefs and tribes with paper and smoke and mirriors, you know looney clown outfit makers and would be warriors aka apache shaman gets run out of ohio via the bravehearts thus heck the gringo injuns still want what DINERO or money, but in this day and age anyone can be injun