19:29:07 mrsdurff - there is a beta version?
19:29:16 dgoodman - wow, gotta try that
19:29:27 mrsdurff - I have 3.8
19:29:28 dougsymington - @Cathy hey, I resemble that comment
19:29:31 Ben Hazzard - loving the forms
19:29:40 mrsdurff - you resemble?
19:29:46 mrsdurff - or ?
19:29:57 dougsymington - click once, an then r-click to add to conference
19:29:58 mrsdurff - resent?
19:30:00 dougsymington - I think
19:30:11 Ben Hazzard - using google spreadsheets with form embedded in a webpage to take RSVPs for my inlaws anniversary
19:30:14 dougsymington - oh no, it's resemble :)
19:30:23 mrsdurff - i think there i am disruptive
19:30:27 dgoodman - maybe mark can demo that for us
19:30:40 Cathy E - pdtogo.com
19:30:46 Ben Hazzard - Also great for collecting open ended response
19:31:01 etalbert - 21classes looks interesting!
19:31:08 Ben Hazzard - Too kind
19:31:20 Ben Hazzard - thanks!
19:31:35 Ben Hazzard - not true... we get multiple takes!
19:31:39 etalbert - Finally got sound! This is pretty cool!
19:32:12 dgoodman - is it frieda making a list
19:32:42 ballardfr - yes
19:32:45 kingre - Yes......Freda is making tthe list
19:33:02 dgoodman - You are welcome to use my wiki I created for a conf - http://ncaect07.pbwiki.com[7]
19:33:14 ballardfr - great, thanks
19:33:34 dgoodman - I met her cathy - she attended the Geocaching training
19:33:37 dougsymington - Cheryl Oakes had a great post today about UDL as well
19:33:41 dougsymington - brb with a link
19:33:59 dgoodman - I agree with cathy
19:34:07 mrsdurff - food? did someone mention food?
19:34:34 mrsdurff - i'll take the vegan portion please
19:34:50 dougsymington - http://www.techlearning.com/blog/2008/07/assistive_technology_goes_main.php[8]
19:34:58 dgoodman - I think with any project-create a rubric so students know exactly what is expected and then grade accordingly
19:35:31 dgoodman - fizz is great - just joined today
19:35:31 mrsdurff - on blogs - have them write blogs, and grade online
19:35:53 jepcke - @dgoodman That is very important for the teacher too. Many don't know what they expect fromt he kids with regard to tech projects
19:35:54 etalbert - Wiki study guides - sounds good!
19:36:03 dgoodman - we are having someone in in a couple weeks to do training and then well have our own environemnt
19:36:20 mrsdurff - for audio podcasts - have them create according to rubric and have them grade each other's work
19:36:33 mjsamberg - https://www.fi.ncsu.edu/fizz/[9]
19:37:08 dgoodman - getting students use to reflective writing is great -will pay off as they get to higher grades - blogs are great for this
19:37:27 dgoodman - having srudents to respond to blogs first before writing their own
19:37:54 etalbert - Good point about wikis.
19:38:20 dgoodman - it has certainly made me look at roadkill in a diff light
19:38:43 dgoodman - dont you try to identify it
19:38:43 mrsdurff - roadkill? gross!
19:38:47 etalbert - Roadkill?
19:38:53 mrsdurff - yuckoo!
19:38:54 sheila A - http://www.ryejrhigh.org/roadkill[10]
19:39:01 mrsdurff - not me thanks
19:39:12 dgoodman - h come on durf
19:39:16 sheila A - high roadkill # indicates # population
19:39:22 mjsamberg - Fizz sample sites: http://www.fareel.com[11], www.ccreel.com[12], hctube.hertford.k12.nc.us
19:40:22 dgoodman - @mark first two links didn't work
19:40:35 Ben Hazzard - Did you discuss the 3 things that are web 2.0 (and popular) that should not be shared with newbies?
19:40:53 mrsdurff - hi mjsamberg
19:40:56 mjsamberg - @deborah - they worked OK for me. www.fareel.com[11] and www.ccreel.com[12]
19:40:59 jepcke - @ben Really good idea!
19:41:07 etalbert - Newbie kids or newbie teachers?
19:41:26 Ben Hazzard - Newbie teachers (I think) but both would be appropriate...
19:41:35 dgoodman - its very busy for newnies
19:41:36 mrsdurff - i use jott for that
19:41:37 jepcke - @ben What are you're 3?
19:41:52 mrsdurff - on speed dial on the cell phone
19:41:53 Ben Hazzard - Twitter
19:41:58 mrsdurff - yup
19:41:59 dgoodman - links worked that time mark
19:42:03 dougsymington - funny
19:42:05 etalbert - It is the purpose not the tool.
19:42:06 mrsdurff - yes
19:42:23 dougsymington - was going to say the same thing--yes, Twitter has a tendancy to overwhelm
19:42:40 etalbert - I wouldn't pick Twitter first for any teacher.
19:43:08 Ben Hazzard - microblogging sites, animoto, wikis/blogs
19:43:11 dgoodman - so many people tell me that they just dont get twitter but after they get more comfy with web 2.o in general they go bacl and look and get it
19:43:36 sheila A - That was me Deborah!
19:43:42 Ben Hazzard - microblogging = too confusing and don't know the noise to vitamin ratio is too small
19:43:48 etalbert - I like twitter if we tweet mostly about professional matters.
19:44:02 dgoodman - its al in who you follow
19:44:04 Ben Hazzard - animoto - cool but shiny and not as well understood
19:44:06 dougsymington - Twitter makes perfect sense the first time you use it to find an answer to a particular question
19:44:21 etalbert - I wold start teachers with an igoogle page and go from there.
19:44:50 Ben Hazzard - blogging and wikis - without a good idea of the possibilities it is not going to take hold
19:44:59 dgoodman - same as you cathy
19:45:25 etalbert - This is definately where web filtering policies come in.
19:45:40 Ben Hazzard - My question when picking what people should do first: what do they already do in real life?
19:45:53 etalbert - A lot of what we are mentioning are blocked in my state in Oz.
19:45:58 dgoodman - gotta check out animoto more closely - have heard it mentioned quite a bit lately
19:46:13 Ben Hazzard - Do they have a digital camera? Then picasa, Flickr!
19:46:23 dgoodman - how about flip video camera
19:46:36 mjsamberg - What about the flip?
19:46:44 jepcke - Don't think I'd show a newbie Second Life.
19:46:45 mjsamberg - Really cool piece of hardware.
19:46:49 mjsamberg - No.
19:46:58 dgoodman - no no no second life for newbie
19:47:15 etalbert - Media creation and sharing appeals to teachers and kids.
19:47:23 dgoodman - @mark loving the flip
19:47:25 Ben Hazzard - jepcke - excellent! stay away from SL... back up from the mouse!
19:47:33 jepcke - We are having great success with newbies and Moodle
19:47:41 etalbert - moodle is becoming popular here too.
19:47:43 jepcke - Newbies to tech that its
19:47:44 Ben Hazzard - loving the flip as well
19:47:45 mjsamberg - A few tools - I worry sometimes that we overwhelm teachers by showing them a ton of tools so that they dont' know where to start.
19:47:51 jepcke - and we have an inhouse Moodle expert
19:48:00 dgoodman - @mark I agree
19:48:34 etalbert - Identify the purpose and learning need and then pick tool, product etc
19:48:38 dgoodman - highlight a few at a time-show real application o the tool and then move on
19:48:48 Ben Hazzard - @mjsanberg - a multitude of options does not overcome knowing the professionals we work with. INstead of rapid fire do the more individualized approach
19:49:05 jepcke - show them a site/tool that will help them solve a problem
19:49:16 mjsamberg - I'm going to do new teacher training differently - separate them by discipline and grade level to work with them in a less general setting.
19:49:30 Ben Hazzard - As what do you want to know? What do tools do you use in your personal life?
19:49:32 jepcke - differentiate for techers too
19:49:46 Ben Hazzard - amen jepcke
19:50:00 etalbert - Yes, relevance to teaching subject is important.
19:50:17 jepcke - many mid-range tech users get turned off when things are always so basic
19:50:37 jepcke - and the hig-end users just check out
19:51:03 etalbert - The late majority need coaxing! What's in it for me!
19:51:03 sheila A - Years ago, we used a rubric for our technology skills. Is there anything out there that has Web 2.0 concepts on rubric/continuum
19:51:10 jepcke - Some teachers think I've taught with it for so many years so I don't need it now
19:51:14 sheila A - for staff
19:51:21 dgoodman - good discussion as usual -thanks cathy
19:51:26 jepcke - @etalbert Very true
19:51:36 dgoodman - Intel has a datbase of rubrics for blogs, wikis, etc
19:51:47 dgoodman - its been great
19:51:59 mrsdurff - I did nothing
19:52:06 mrsdurff - but it was fun
19:52:11 sheila A - Thanks!
19:52:20 jepcke - @durff your presence is always reassuring
19:52:27 mrsdurff - coolcatteacher has good rubrics
19:52:31 kingre - Thanks Cathy!
19:52:44 ballardfr - Thanks everyone!
19:52:49 Ben Hazzard - Thanks!
19:52:53 sheila A - thanks for the rubric leads!
19:52:54 etalbert - Bye all!
19:53:01 mrsdurff - i was trying to re-attach a resume to an email
19:58:46 dgoodman - I heard about that at NECC
19:59:46 mrsdurff - audio gone - anyone else or just me?
20:00:03 dgoodman - i still hear
20:00:29 dgoodman - i think teachers teaching teachers discuss that last week
20:00:34 mrsdurff - then i need a browser restart-thanks
20:01:01 dgoodman - i am
20:01:03 Cathy E - http://flickr.com/photos/23754355@N08/sets/72157605880686325/[13]
20:01:45 dgoodman - he is a great presenter