Prime time before Select was used for extra touches and a few teams that liked the location. After Select started it was a league for those that did not qualify into a league. Plano as a rule was mostly teams that did not qualify into LH or felt LH was too much. It used to have a qualifying tournament too but I don't think they have one anymore. I would definitely chose Plano over Primetime. .

played in both this season. Primetime was run much better than Plano from a fields, reffing, and scheduling standpoint. The fields Plano uses are pretty much always in bad shape. Primetimes fields are a little more spread out, but I dont remember any of them being in rough condition. Reffing was much more consistent at primetime. the competition level in Plano was more consistent, as Primetime (US CLUB) allowed players from other clubs / leagues to play. They also allowed 5 top (will be D1 LH) 07' teams to play in the spring against the 06's. those games were a little lopsided and made the experience in the Spring much worse than in the Fall. if Primetime can fix the competition level and even it out, it will be a much better run league.

We played in both leagues as well. Field conditions for Primetime are much better. My daughter refers to Carpenter as the field with all the rocks. I keep in touch with our team manager quite a bit and know that Primetime worked their best to reschedule any conflicts vs Plano was non-negotiable. The only decided edge I can offer Plano is the consistency of always playing in 1 location.

leagues competing for your businesses could improve the overall standard i.e. Flexible scheduling, Field conditions, and works well with a referee assignor to get the correct crews together, refereeing at the correct level, last but not least, fee reduction. Me personally, I like to see well maintained playing fields when my DD plays.

Our team played in Plano last year but plan on playing Primetime this year. The fields in Plano are horrible the refs were inconsistent but the take it or leave attitude of the folks running the league is the deal breaker. I went to the coaches meeting and knew right then we had made a mistake. The way some of them talked down to those of us attending was rude and unnecessary. We made it through the season but not doing it again. Its nice to have choices.

select_newby wrote:The way some of them talked down to those of us attending was rude and unnecessary.

Same for us with parent meeting in Lake Highlands a few years ago. Very condescending and we pretty much left with the impression we are just to sit back, pay our money and let the league and officials do their thing.

I will say, at least in Plano they take care of the flags for you ;-). Gotta be worth something, right?

RightWingDad wrote:The way some of them talked down to those of us attending was rude and unnecessary.

EXACTLY! Condescending and rude! I have nothing at all postive to say about our experience in Plano, and I would not recommend them to anyone. The entire year was a beating. The fields were a joke, we have better fields at the YMCA. The main objective of the meeting was to tell us all the things we could be fined for, funny one was for parent walking across the field...I think that was because they didn't want to get sued when someone twisted their ankle in a hole.

The refs are lazy, and just didn't want to call anything. When a player on the opposing team broke her arm, there was no trainer or protocol in sight to get her the attention she needed.

If you want to move a game, it is $250 and no guarantee, I mean SERIOUSLY?! Even though we requested no games on a certain date ahead of time? Games were scheduled during tournament times like President's weekend, and there was no consideration for change, even with many weeks notice (the day the schedule came out). We had games scheduled at times on weekdays when we physically couldn't get there in time because we had players coming from Fort Worth, Kennedale and Mansfield...they knew this ahead of time, and didn't care. Other closer teams did not have games at those times.

select_newby wrote:I will say, at least in Plano they take care of the flags for you ;-). Gotta be worth something, right?

Yep that's about it....

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Zizou wrote:leagues competing for your businesses could improve the overall standard i.e. Flexible scheduling, Field conditions, and works well with a referee assignor to get the correct crews together, refereeing at the correct level, last but not least, fee reduction. Me personally, I like to see well maintained playing fields when my DD plays.

If you think that refs get better with league change you are an idiot. LH has the same refs as Plano or JDL or whatever. They all have their issues as do the cheap leagues that play on crappy fields with crappy teams.

KeeperCommander wrote:If you think that refs get better with league change you are an idiot. LH has the same refs as Plano or JDL or whatever. They all have their issues as do the cheap leagues that play on crappy fields with crappy teams.

As do the out of state tournaments we've been to. Hard to find quality CR/AR's all over the country. Have to wonder what the ref crews are like at ECNL Nationals this week?

KeeperCommander wrote:If you think that refs get better with league change you are an idiot. LH has the same refs as Plano or JDL or whatever. They all have their issues as do the cheap leagues that play on crappy fields with crappy teams.

As do the out of state tournaments we've been to. Hard to find quality CR/AR's all over the country. Have to wonder what the ref crews are like at ECNL Nationals this week?

True, but Im sure many dont want the abuse parents dish out, pay not that good.

Right, what is it, $35 for a CR LH game...maybe $20 for AR? I still think they need to be able to run to get into position to see the play, 80% or more don't.

But there is that parent issue to and there are a lot of parent jerks out there screaming stuff they know nothing or little about. So I do get some of the resentment towards all the sideline "refs" and "coaches".

RightWingDad wrote:Right, what is it, $35 for a CR LH game...maybe $20 for AR? I still think they need to be able to run to get into position to see the play, 80% or more don't.

But there is that parent issue to and there are a lot of parent jerks out there screaming stuff they know nothing or little about. So I do get some of the resentment towards all the sideline "refs" and "coaches".

Uh, ya mean "handling"? Funny we were told at that parent meeting it's called handling not hand ball "you goofy parents". And yet when I watch NBCSN EPL games even guys like Arlo White (one of my favs btw) call it hand ball. And ya think they should know....they fricking invented the game.

Primetime is the better choice.1. better fields and location for us on the west side2. competition is good, many teams- we had 40 teams in our age group and it was select age3. refereeing was 10 x better4. fields- we chose home field as Money gram- great fields5. all games were on Saturday and they worked around us if our coach had another team.6. all games were on the weekend so no games during the weeknights so we didn't miss practice or had to rush to make a game bc of work and traffic during the week.7. we also had officials marshals and a trainer if we needed one8. games were on time and we had benches to sit on, flags and nets were always up and we can also walk across the fields.9. fees were the same or even cheaper10. we also get a discount to all their tournaments