I've read reviews on Novedex XT, but I'd rather here it from people on the forum as to whether this product will be beneficial during my PCT after a cycle of Havoc?

Any thoughts would greatly be appreciated.

Honestly, I recommend a SERM, such as tore. at 90/90/60/60 with Stoked starting the third week at 4 caps a day.
Tore. 90/90/60/60
Stoked 4/4/4/4
Next time for future reference, post a question regarding hormones in the steroid section, so that your question be answered quicker.

You are??? Based on what?! ...Please don't give advice regarding hormones unless you ABSOLUTELY know what you are talking about. Your advice could really screw up someone up for the rest of their life!!!

I've read enough over the past week to know that I will need a SERM for PCT and I appreciate the comments regarding looking out for my health (anyone for that matter).

Back to my original question though; should I just disregard using Novedex XT in my PCT all together or use it in combination with a SERM?

Secondly, is Nolva, Tomax and Torem OTC or by prescription only? And if by prescription, how the heck do you get them?

Hate to sound stupid, just trying to gain as much knowledge and get all my supps in order prior to starting my cycle and be safe as I can be.

Thanks in advance!

Nolvadex and toremifine are prescription drugs.

I did A LOT of research when considering a PH run, but I definately don't have enough real-world experience to give you any advice in pct.

What I can tell you is this:

Do a TON of research. Although a lot of it may seem redundant, you will NOT stop finding new info. Make sure you read a few of the horror stories and logs by guys who ran into problems using PH's and notice how quickly things can go from "making great gains" to "oh sh*t!!! what do I do???"
Be EXTREMELY CAREFUL in who you take advice from, and don't take it soley from one person, no matter how smart they sound. IMO 80% of the people who advise on this stuff have little to no credentials to do so, but they make observations based on other people's post and then offer their own advice.
Altering hormone levels can be very powerful and quite impressive, and in the same sense just as dangerous.

I did A LOT of research when considering a PH run, but I definately don't have enough real-world experience to give you any advice in pct.

What I can tell you is this:

Do a TON of research. Although a lot of it may seem redundant, you will NOT stop finding new info. Make sure you read a few of the horror stories and logs by guys who ran into problems using PH's and notice how quickly things can go from "making great gains" to "oh sh*t!!! what do I do???"
Be EXTREMELY CAREFUL in who you take advice from, and don't take it soley from one person, no matter how smart they sound. IMO 80% of the people who advise on this stuff have little to no credentials to do so, but they make observations based on other people's post and then offer their own advice.
Altering hormone levels can be very powerful and quite impressive, and in the same sense just as dangerous.

Thanks for the reply. I am surely doing a ton of research. I think I've used Google more in the past week than I have in months.

If I may ask, after all the research you did, did you decide to a PH cycle? And if so, how did you obtain a SERM? I mean, do most people just go to their doctor and advise him/her what they are doing and openly discuss the topic? Seems like a difficult thing to get a hold of (a SERM).

nolvadex and clomid are prescription drugs but they arent a controlled substance like vicodin or something else like that... the FDA says its legal to purchase a non-controlled substance without a prescription and have it shipped to the u.s. but u can only buy up to a 90 day supply...this is what i read...but i would still look into it.

To answer your question mate if you added it in, it wouldnt hurt and would only make a little differance although better than nothing. Also for the other people tamox and torem are the same thing. torem is just a differant brand name for tamox which is nolvadex.

To answer your question mate if you added it in, it wouldnt hurt and would only make a little differance although better than nothing. Also for the other people tamox and torem are the same thing. torem is just a differant brand name for tamox which is nolvadex.

why do you guys always recommend serms? it bind to the estrodiol receptors to keep any estrogenic hormones from binding, but what happend when you come off? You get a receptor flooded with estrogen because it still converts through aromatase even though it can't bind to the receptor yet. Run an AI, not a serm, start high then taper down on the doseage, because it prevents gyno on rebound from the source, being more proactive than a serm.

why do you guys always recommend serms? it bind to the estrodiol receptors to keep any estrogenic hormones from binding, but what happend when you come off? You get a receptor flooded with estrogen because it still converts through aromatase even though it can't bind to the receptor yet. Run an AI, not a serm, start high then taper down on the doseage, because it prevents gyno on rebound from the source, being more proactive than a serm.

first you should normalize your estro values , only then take an ai, that's why you should do a serm first before an ai or you`re risking a possible delayed estrogen rebound with gyno as bonus

nolvadex and clomid are prescription drugs but they arent a controlled substance like vicodin or something else like that... the FDA says its legal to purchase a non-controlled substance without a prescription and have it shipped to the u.s. but u can only buy up to a 90 day supply...this is what i read...but i would still look into it.

I did A LOT of research when considering a PH run, but I definately don't have enough real-world experience to give you any advice in pct.

What I can tell you is this:

Do a TON of research. Although a lot of it may seem redundant, you will NOT stop finding new info. Make sure you read a few of the horror stories and logs by guys who ran into problems using PH's and notice how quickly things can go from "making great gains" to "oh sh*t!!! what do I do???"
Be EXTREMELY CAREFUL in who you take advice from, and don't take it soley from one person, no matter how smart they sound. IMO 80% of the people who advise on this stuff have little to no credentials to do so, but they make observations based on other people's post and then offer their own advice.
Altering hormone levels can be very powerful and quite impressive, and in the same sense just as dangerous.

Not even for use with a SERM as an AI? Cause I've heard from people that have used it and said it's worked well, just not to take too much.

Have you personally used it yourself?

Thanks for responding.

i don't like the fact that gaspari has named this product with a name so close to the prescription drug nolvadex for starters and this has caused a lot of confusion from what i've seen with people buying novedex xt thinking it was a legal form of "nolva" they hear and read about as being a pct must have

as an A.I, there are far better supps outhere like nutra's ATD, inhibit E and rebound XT.

i personally would favour running a trans-reversitol based supp for pct with a serm on hand if needed

why do you guys always recommend serms? it bind to the estrodiol receptors to keep any estrogenic hormones from binding, but what happend when you come off? You get a receptor flooded with estrogen because it still converts through aromatase even though it can't bind to the receptor yet. Run an AI, not a serm, start high then taper down on the doseage, because it prevents gyno on rebound from the source, being more proactive than a serm.

because evrybody likes to go with the flow and say the same thig evry body els is sayin cuz they think its right no u dont ALWAYS need a SERM

because evrybody likes to go with the flow and say the same thig evry body els is sayin cuz they think its right no u dont ALWAYS need a SERM

It's always good to have one with a compound that is already active, if we are talking about a product like 1-androsterone, then it is different, AI could do the trick, but I always recomend a SERM for epistane, then again everyone responds differently to different to certain compounds.