An anti-gun owner initiative considered in Washington could lead to massive civil disobedience and a severe domestic crisis, gun law expert John M. Snyder warned on Friday.

According to confidential information, he said, forces linked with the administration suggest the government classify semiautomatic firearms and multiple capacity ammunition feeding devices as Title 2 National Firearms Act items under the Gun Control Act of 1968.

Americans familiar with federal gun laws understand that under this scenario, semiautomatics and high capacity magazines could be acquired only with great difficulty and at great expense by Americas estimated 100 million law-abiding firearms owners, notes Snyder.

According to Snyder and other gun ownership advocates, the Obama administration long ago realized it would have insurmountable difficulty getting a semiautomatic gun ban, such as that considered by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and others, passed Congress, especially when the House is controlled by defenders of the Second Amendment.

Congressional Second Amendment supporters already are preparing for such a battle. During the Clinton years, Congress enacted a partial, temporary semiautomatic ban but allowed it to sunset after 10 years because of its lack of significant negative impact on crime, according to surveys conducted by the National Association of Chiefs of Police.

The Obama administration, now safely reelected, may order the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to take the classification step. Some gun-grabbers view the designation of Street Sweeper shotguns as Title 2 firearms during the Clinton administration as precedent for such a move.

For several years, various groups and individuals have discussed the anti-gun owner proclivities of the current administration. Obama anti-gun owner activities have involved the promulgation of anti-gun federal regulations, the appointment of anti-gun judges to the federal courts, including the Supreme Court, and the appointment of anti-gun personnel to other high federal positions, including the appointment of an attorney general of the United States who is suspected by many observers of playing politics with the nations law enforcement community.

Its been under this attorney generalship that the infamous Fast and Furious federal gun running scandal involving ATF has occurred, Snyder stated. The administration may feel that a replacement in that office could facilitate a ratcheting-up of its anti-gun activities with announcement and inauguration of the proposed semiautomatic classification/ban.

Such a move surely would galvanize the law-abiding grass roots gun-owning American public into opposition as it never has before. At the very least, it would lead to an action in the U.S. House of Representatives to defund if not eliminate entirely the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives. To what it would lead at the very most is anyones guess, warns Snyder.

A former NRA editor and director of national gun rights organizations, Snyder has been defending the individual Second Amendment civil right of law-abiding American citizens to keep and bear arms for over 46 years. Hes been called the senior rights activist in Washington by Shotgun News. He also serves on the advisory board of the National Association of Chiefs of Police.

The Moral Liberal Contributing Editor, Jim Kouri, CPP, is the fifth Vice President and Public Information Officer of the National Association of Chiefs of Police, has served on the National Drug Task Force and trained police and security officers throughout the country. Contact Jim.

If our side continues to sit on their hands when Obama bypasses Congress, I am out of the party. They were afraid to change the topic from the economy before the election...which I understand, but it backfired. Now it is time to address the overreach. No election any time soon. The average voter never hears of this stuff, and our side never objects. That ends just as we saw it November 6th.

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posted on 11/27/2012 7:04:21 AM PST
by ilgipper
(Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)

A former NRA editor and director of national gun rights organizations, Snyder has been defending the individual Second Amendment civil right of law-abiding American citizens to keep and bear arms for over 46 years.

I wonder where this fellow's head was at when his NRA was feeding campaign money (from NRA dues) to some of the very same stinking Democrat senators who now control the Senate? I don't care what their "grade" is - NRA must send NO MONEY to Democrats!

An anti-gun owner initiative considered in Washington could lead to massive civil disobedience and a severe domestic crisis I doubt that. It'll lead to a lot of talking, though.

The problem is our side is leaderless. When and if this is attempted we will need a national and respected leader to encourage civil disobedience as was done during the civil rights movement. I hope I am wrong but I see this in our future.

I think it is time to lower the Gadsden Flag. Why? It has become apparent to me, that any and all laws pertaining to Americans, identify the man in the street, as the homegrown terrorist. Therefore, it is time to embrace being called ‘terrorists’, but with a slight twist. Instead of the cowering, frightened peoples that Obama hopes to create, it is time to give him, and all his kind, a thumb in the eye, with a smile added to it.

I’m thinking this article is liberal claptrap. The author is a member of a rabid anti self defense organization. The dimocraps migh try some minor infringements, but they have seen what a political disaster messing with the second amendment is. Some of them will even want to keep thier corrupt little jobs after Obama is gone.

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posted on 11/27/2012 7:24:28 AM PST
by Quickgun
(I came here screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)

They’re a single-issue group, not an arm of the Republican party. From the NRA’s point of view, now that the Dems hold the Senate, it’s exactly the time to give some money to pro-gun Democrats, in hopes that they might block some legislation for you, since the Republicans won’t be able to do that. Just hedging their bets.

Libs come in at least two flavors. There’s the partisan hack, who could care less about moral arguments. They support the party because the party supports them. Think Chicago political mafia.

But there are also the lib moralists, who actually consider themselves the moral superiors of conservatives and other primitives. These are the people in your family who argue with you at holiday gatherings, trying to show you are not for equality in marriage, or the rights of a woman to control her own body, or the right of poor people to advanced healthcare and large screen tv’s, or the right of non-anglos to come here and get stuff, even if they have to break the law to do it.

As between the two, I’d almost rather make my case to the Chicago thugs, because they still operate under a principle of self-interest, and that’s something to start with. It’s the real reason the left is so anti-gun. It’s just hard to be dictator when the little folk can shoot back.

Whereas the moralists want to take my guns because they are trying to protect me from myself, primitive creature that I am. And there’s no talking them out of it, except by a miracle. That’s the program they’re running and that’s all there is to it. Even a bad person will withdraw from danger, but a fool rushes in, to everyone’s harm.

And therein lies the problem - our side always talks while their side will mobilize and demonstrate/riot. Can't win a battle if you aren't willing to fight. As Randy Jackson says on American Idol - "You're in it to win it", and that really applies to the other side. We keep standing by our civilized "principles" even when said "principles" are killing us.

As stated in the article, it could mean a defunding of the BATFE in Congress. There are still levers that can be pulled in our favor so long as we control the House.

The BATFE will not be defunded. Pubbies may run the House but the Dims run the Senate. Harry Reid has not let a Budget pass in over three years so we have been running on Continuing Resolutions, CRs, for almost all of Obama's first term.

Since there will probably be no Budget for the next four years the House and Senate will have to fight over the CRs and since the Pubbies have no spine they will not let the Government shut down over this subject. The Dems will not allow a CR through unless the BATFE is fully funded. They know it is the linchpin to the Communist takeover of our Country. The Pubbies will allow the final evisceration of our Constitution by the Communists in the White House and Senate so they will not be painted as the bad guys if the Government shuts down.

It is time for the gun shops, manufacterors, and every real patriot to say "NO" and keep making, producing and selling the guns and ammo and refuse to collect the huge taxes that are sure to come. When the BATFE or IRS agents come to shut them down WE need to literally stand side by side, in the hundreds if not thousands,to stop them at each location. There are not enough Brown Shirts in the BATFE or IRS to stop FREE CITIZENS and they would like to go home to their families.

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more  we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago

This is true. I am not saying is easy, but we have to change our tactics. Relying on the news cycle doesn't get it done. When I say we don't object, I am not saying we don't talk about it on the web, on blogs, on talk radio, etc.

In the past year, as Obama started using these executive decision-making to go around the Congress, our side strategically didn't make a big deal of them (Gays in military, Dream Act, etc, etc), because they specifically wanted to make this election about the economy. You never say Congressional leaders out focusing on executive over-reach. This tactic did not work...clearly.

My main points were: A) We need to start objecting to executive over-reach; and B) We have to start changing our political tactics to battle the opposition throughout the year, rather than jumping in with ads 30 days out from an election. We have to sell our ideas, and why they are better every day of the year, and work around the media through advertising, internet display ads, etc.

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posted on 11/27/2012 9:18:38 AM PST
by ilgipper
(Obama supporters are comprised of the uninformed & the ill-informed)

Well, I respectfully disagree. 10 years ago that might have been the case, but in today's government, good luck on expecting any Democrat to go against the party line when it means a pet Dem issue would be defeated. There are no free-thinkers on that side, and they would be bribed, threatened, or brow-beat until they vote in accordance with their leader.

I think you can forget men of principle - they do not exist in the Democrat party. Witness the process of passing Obamacare.

No - When the NRA helps elect a Democrat based on some grading process (wherein they probably got rolled, anyway), we all get the filth that goes along with the Democrat on every other legislation.

I abandoned the NRA and AOPA for these very reasons. Single-issue advocacy no longer works, because there is no honor on the left in Washington (and very little on the right), only strong-arming, get-your-way-at-all-costs behavior.

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