This all has an overtone of how" wonderful this will be for the nation"But the undertone of "you must do this" doesn't seem american.Rember you're freedoms will be CHIPPED away not taken away.This is a good way to judge if a law or "plan" is a good one.Take the law to one extreme like say the ACLU would and then take it to the other extreme and if it works at both extremes then it's a good idea.Not to many modern policys will cut the mustard if you use this standard.DON

This is how a leader would encourage young people to serve our country:

"In the long history of the world, only a few generations have been granted the role of defending freedom in its hour of maximum danger. I do not shank from this responsibility - I welcome it. I do not believe that any of us would exchange places with any other people or any other generation. The energy, the faith, the devotion which we bring to this endeavour will light our country and all who serve it -- and the glow from that fire can truly light the world.

And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country."

Excerpt from "Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You" speechInaugural Address by John F. Kennedy - January 20th 1961

snooze913 wrote:Looks like Acorn just got a whole bunch of new volunteers

Good one! Makes you think don't it? I wouldn't put it past him to have that in mind in the first place. Bet you a bag of coal all the little munchkins from middle school & high school will be running around signing up drunks, bums & welfare cadets for the "one" in 4 years.

CoaLen wrote:And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country."

Excerpt from "Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You" speechInaugural Address by John F. Kennedy - January 20th 1961

In a truly free society your nation asks nothing of you, or you of it. And the draft is nothing more than the country claiming ownership over the populace. If a war must be fought to save a nation worthy of being saved then the populace will gladly drop their lives and volunteer rather then be drafted as chattel.

snooze913 wrote:If this program is institued with Manditory Community Service for students how about Manditory Service before a person recieves a Welfare Check?

An excellent idea. I have found that the people of the rather poor community I live in, abhor "welfare slackers" or "welfare rats" as they call them. Those who know the welfare recipients best know who does and does not deserve the assistance. I would be in favor of peer review for welfare. I would also be in favor of peer review as one aspect of worker's comp and disability review in addition to medical review.

Rights come with responsibility. I don't think it is unfair to ask those on welfare not to add to the taxpayer burden by having more children. While I am repulsed by the idea of force, incremental assistance in exchange for having tubes tied should be an option.

There is little follow through on re-establishing need and on seeking a way out of poverty. While many will remain on the rolls due to real indigence and ignorance, many could better themselves and this must be addressed meaningfully. Society has been much too easy on far too many. Pestering them with a community service requirement will quickly establish who truly wants to improve their conditions and who does not.