Step further. Used to like ALL girls that were into me. Now I'm actually really likely to turn girls down if there is something I'm not a fan of.

samema 148

You shouldn't like someone just because you think you can't do better or don't have other options

Mbcameron 55

Exactly. Hence moving on from it now but there were definitely some bad points when I was younger and less confident when that was the case. Including one long term relationship that consequently was the worst of my life.

samema 24

Insecurity is a helluva drug, glad you're out and doing better

DaiManthing 23

Unless you have NO other options. At 23 and 0 dates I'll take whatever I can just to get something to put on my "resume".

Native_Nature 13

Comment of the day. And, I’d add don’t accept being treated like an option. If a girl comes off like she has 5 guys and I’m competing for her, nah. Moving on til I find someone who values me as an equal.

Putting someone on a pedestal or being put on a pedestal are both unhealthy relationship dynamics. Speaking from experience and lessons learned.

PassTheJam 12

Right, 'should'. Unfortunately when you think your alternatives are being lonely and being in a suboptimal relationship, it's not that easy.

anyosae_na 11

You take what you can get, man.

samema 8

You still deserve better :)

OriginalSeraphim 10

Same. Nerdy girl was into me? Guess I like nerdy chicks. Emo chick was into me? Guess I’m into that.

Now I think about what I actually like and want

Guano07 25

This so much! When I was in high school I loved flirting with girls that were out of my league. For some reason it was a huge thrill to me and the few times I got to actually date them were well worth the many many rejections.

Yavin4Reddit 19

I'm going to the gym as often as I can to fix the former because I don't accept the latter. If I'm unhealthy, I attract unhealthy. I can change that.

godless_librarian 14

"In his younger days a man dreams of possessing the heart of the woman whom he loves; later, the feeling that he possesses the heart of a woman may be enough to make him fall in love with her." - Marcel Proust

Zebracak3s 10

I wish there were girls into me.

USCAV19D 5

So your mom and no one else?

dejvidBejlej 3

Same, that's why I don't like any girl now

ParticipashunTrophy 8211 SG

Relying on me for all the answers. Feels great at 20. When you're married, 30, and have kids, you don't need 100 questions about how to find a dentist.

Ihenrywy 2464

My wife's family were kind of overly supportive and answered EVERY little question she ever had which never really made her think critically at home. When we met she had very little DIY skills, and it took a looooong time and a lot of frustrating conversations between us where I would go "babe...please just think about this for a second before asking me" before we made progress in that area

LordoftheScheisse 1578

Oh god. Teach me your ways.

Wait. I'll figure it out.

Cky_vick 105

Did you figure it out yet? Let me know, asking for a friend.

drfarren 144

Positive reinforcement. When she does that you give positive feed back, htuff like how proud you are of her or if it's something big you cook a nice meal or take her somewhere nicer than normal.

You associate her sense of achievement with positive feelings and over time the learning becomes it's own reward.

Just make sure the difficulty scales up. Don't make her do something that's too beyond her knowledge base. My wife was like that with cars, it overwhelmed her. So I started small and would ask her to ID where a sound was coming from, the quality of sound (grind, crunch, click, squael, thump, etc) then she used my repair book to tell me what the part was called and what the part did. Now, if she breaks down she doesn't even call me. She just fixes it on her own and comes home looking happy that she did it without me helping.

Source: I teach music and substitute teach.

Boopy7 13

i can tell you're a good teacher. We need many more of you!

ItsTrue214 13

Can you tell me what repair book you have? I would love to be able to teach myself these things.

AdiaAdia 202

I have a friend like this. He’s in his mid 30s. His employment provides free accommodation, bills etc. He has to ask everyone for every little thing, when a simple google search would give him the answer. I actually put it down to laziness, the guy pretends he’s clueless but has three properties under his belt, mind you, his parents did all the legal paper work and he just signed🤷🏻‍♀️

"For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than search it for themselves."

I have a friend who does the same, and she's starting to get the hint ;)

fettsack2 7

I always wonder what kind of work people like that can do.

xxxhentaiwaifuxxx 92

My mom even when I was young almost always gave me an answer of “look it up” for menial things like “how do you spell faux?” Or “How much is a blockbuster rental?” Stuff like that drove me nuts but I guess I should be thankful.

ikbentwee 6

I was going to say...I thought I was being a lazy Mom but I guess it'll work out

Ghostbuttser 5

No, not really. Parents should teach their kids things, they just shouldn't be doing it for them instead.

karmahunger 67

This is tiring. The amount of people who want to talk ad nauseum about something is unnecessary if they would just finish the thought.

Also, not everything needs to be said. There is such a thing as too much communication.

People need to learn to think for themselves.

throwaway456account 7

my.... my husband does this... is 7 years together too late to say “Babe, please thinks about this for a second before asking me” ?

nderscore_ 3

Glad you survived! That conversation looks like it'll be cited in your divorce application.

emotionontheocean 269

Oh man, I hope my husband doesn’t think this. Granted, he knows how I was raised and knew what he was getting into when he married me. My mom was a total helicopter mom and never let us make our own decisions. I have horrible anxiety and low-self confidence and I used to ask my husband about everything first for fear of screwing it up on my own. I didn’t even know how to cook, he had to teach me from the bare basics. He has been incredibly patient, but quietly encouraging for me to be more independent. And I definitely have improved greatly. But I’m still a far way off of being able to make big decisions without talking with him about it first. He’s never seemed bothered by it, so maybe I just married the right guy. He’s always happy to listen and offer his opinion if I ask, but never pushy or bossy or impatient.

tonybaby 255

So, I need help here. You've just described my 16 year-old daughter and I'm so worried when I send her to college she's just going to freeze up like a deer in the headlights if she has to wake up and figure out where her class is. It's so bad, while I was teaching her to drive, we were approaching a red light and she hesitantly asks me if she should stop. This was not the first time she had driven on the road, including roads with red lights. I wasn't mad, I wasn't disappointed, I was shocked. I looked at her and asked her what she thought she should do. We're getting closer to the intersection, and I'm waiting for her to slow down as she makes a decision. She does not slow down, she refuses to make a decision and keeps her speed constant while looking worried until I have to yell, "for God's sake stop!" I didn't mean to yell, but I was also worried she was about to kill us. She broke down in tears, I felt terrible, but at the same time, horrified at the possibility of unleashing her upon the world. Is there anything besides patience that would have helped you at this point?

Edit: Thanks to everyone for the responses.

She's a wonderful, beautiful, intelligent kid, and I know she can do whatever she decides to do. She's also my oldest, so everything she does is the first time for both of us.

For those saying I probably messed up parenting her, you might be right. It took having my own kids to realize parents aren't suddenly bestowed with perfect parenting knowledge when their kids are born. We're just people, doing the best we can to not screw them up too bad, and usually falling short of our own expectations in the process, but I know I'll never stop trying. And I'll never give up on her.

Ihenrywy 173

I would start with: anytime she asks a question, and I mean ANY question, ask her what she thinks before giving her any answer. This will at least start the gears turning where she understands she can't rely on everyone for answers

BlatantFalsehood 116

As a previous commenter mentioned, ask her what she thinks every time she asks you a question.

If she says, "I don't know," ask her what steps she might take to find the answer if you weren't there.

The first few of times, work through it together. If she says she might look at Google, do it with her so you can talk about how to evaluate credible sources, etc. This will help her build confidences in her ability to find answers on her own.

Stop answering questions for her.

As long as the answers she finds are not dangerous in some way, do not comment negatively on the decisions she makes based on those answers if her actions conflict with how you would do things. THIS IS KEY. Helicopter parenting is about making sure kids do things YOUR way rather than allowing kids to make the mistakes and failures that are the growth enablers.

District98 69

Source: was a sixteen year old girl, have two younger sisters, taught middle school, now teach college students.

I think what’s been helpful to me was the following two things: age appropriate risk and age appropriate responsibility.

When we teach skills (in teacher training the first thing you learn) is the I do, we do, you do model. Teaching skills should culminate in her performing tasks successfully with no adult supervision. That means, at sixteen, y’all are sometimes not home, or she’s taking public transit somewhere to spend time with friends and has to do things for herself in the course of that time. Sixteen year olds are not seven, they don’t need constant adult supervision, and a lot of that independent decision making comes when they screw something up and need to think their way out of the situation for themselves. Note that means with real consequences too - she needs some financial skin in the game - if she bangs up the car, she pays for it.

Having shitty jobs taught me a LOT about responsibility. I worked at target when I was 16, and I was treated like an adult there, I interacted with adults. I recommend that as a shitty job. In contrast the service industry (waitressing) is even more responsibility but it’s also more of a party scene. Retail is pretty tame in terms of your coworkers.

Finally, adolescent girls are not conditioned to fail forward. Read Mindset by Carol Dweck with her. A lot of adolescent women are in a very fixed mindset, they are high performers, they take things very personally when stuff goes wrong. This is bad for independence and it’s bad for the science experiment type process. Allow her to be in situations where there is growth from failure. Make sure you praise her for hard work and risk taking, rather than for inherent characteristics such as beauty and intelligence (“You worked hard to figure that out” vs “you’re so smart”). And you and your wife should be transparently modeling situations where you’ve struggled, or experienced failure, or had to take on risky or hard decisions. 16 is also a good age to start talking openly about family finances, how you budget, etc.

Edit: someday you may be in the situation where your daughter is dating someone who takes on the role you guys have been playing. This may feel like a relief - like you can hand the project of teaching her to be independent off, or like it’s no longer necessary. Do not do that. You will be setting her up for devastation after the breakup and she may stay in the relationship for the wrong reasons.

Edit2: some people are just slower processors - she may need time, may not be great at split second decision making. This is a skill that can be built up, but it also means she may make better decisions with a little time to think than she does when she's panicking.

Source: was a sixteen year old girl, have two younger sisters, taught middle school, now teach college students.

I think what’s been helpful to me was the following two things: age appropriate risk and age appropriate responsibility.

Having shitty jobs taught me a LOT about responsibility. I worked at target when I was 16, and I was treated like an adult there, I interacted with adults. I recommend that as a shitty job. In contrast the service industry (waitressing) is even more responsibility but it’s also more of a party scene. Retail is pretty tame in terms of your coworkers.

Finally, adolescent girls are not conditioned to fail forward. Read Mindset by Carol Dweck with her. A lot of adolescent women are in a very fixed mindset, they are high performers, they take things very personally when stuff goes wrong. This is bad for independence and it’s bad for the science experiment type process. Allow her to be in situations where there is growth from failure. Make sure you praise her for hard work and risk taking, rather than for inherent characteristics such as beauty and intelligence (“You worked hard to figure that out” vs “you’re so smart”). And you and your wife should be transparently modeling situations where you’ve struggled, or experienced failure, or had to take on risky or hard decisions. 16 is also a good age to start talking openly about family finances, how you budget, etc.

Edit: someday you may be in the situation where your daughter is dating someone who takes on the role you guys have been playing. This may feel like a relief - like you can hand the project of teaching her to be independent off, or like it’s no longer necessary. Do not do that. You will be setting her up for devastation after the breakup and she may stay in the relationship for the wrong reasons.

emotionontheocean 26

Start with small things. Have her choose the dinner menu for the week. Build up her confidence that way and gradually have her make bigger decisions on her own. Never ever question why she chooses what she does, just thank her for her decision. If she won’t choose, let her fail. And just encourage her and remind her she can do anything if she tries.

SomeVegetable 13

honestly driving with my parents was so stressful i had panic attacks which decreases the ability to make any decision. I didn’t know what i was feeling at the time because i was 100% stressed all the time but driving while getting yelled at is so much worse. I was able to hide it pretty well too so i never got help until i reached out on my own as an adult.

I think talking about it later, outside the car and maybe do a question like what would you do in this situation might be easier. My parents were frustrated and my mom anxious which encouraged my own anxiety, so it just made the experience horrifying. I passed my drivers test but was afraid of driving until more recently(past five years, im 34) because of a supportive boyfriend.

kasuchans 10

Legitimate question. Is she like that a lot, you said? I'm thinking (like myself, honestly) smart girl, high achieving, high expectations, pretty, generally expected to do well on things? Anxiety. I was the oldest kid and I grew up with so much anxiety. I'm now in my 20s and I still struggle to do things that I don't know how, because of the fear of performing poorly that was drummed into me as a teen to whom many things came easy and/or asking for help. Don't be afraid to suggest maybe some family therapy, I did it right before going to college and it helped a lot.

To the other commentator who said "she'll learn if she misses enough classes", you've clearly never seen someone with a lot of anxiety.

PerfectFaith 11

My wife and I are pretty similar I suppose. I was raised and forced to be independent and do things alone. As far as I can tell my wife has always had her family present to help do stuff and provide for her. I think in this sense we are two different extremes of (arguably bad) parenting.

However I generally have no desire to impose my opinions or tastes on her and of course I encourage her in doing things by herself or making the decisions for us. Sometimes I feel like a lesbian stereotype when we stand and say"no what do you want" to each other over and over through out the store.

Interestingly while my handling of adult stuff and independence is quite strong my house, eating habits etc are subpar. She's much more organized and generally cleaner and healthier and monitors and looks after me. I imagine it's as annoying for her to get me to floss as it is for me to get her to decide what we're having for dinner.

emotionontheocean 10

I’ve always said my husband is the ying to my yang. Where he is so independent and driven, I’m unsure and needy. Where I’m compassionate and thoughtful of others, he is busy and worries about himself. I’m more introverted, he’s more extroverted. He’s very math-brained, I love words and reading. We balance each other well and we are both eager to learn from each other’s strengths.

godjustice 99

This is the best answer by far. I certainly either know the answer, figure it out for you, or you can be a damn adult and figure it out for yourself. (Probably a basic web search will tell you)

youstupidfattoad 12

Yes, I think one of the most - secret - attractive qualities in a woman is self-reliance. I am not interested in going out with a child or a pet.

throwmeawaysimetime 10

I'm experiencing this in my relationship and it's a real pain in the ass. Having to be the only one to have answers to complex relationship questions makes me feel like a fucking creep. It's really hard to tow the line between "this is you wanting me to give you the answer" and "this is me imposing my opinion and world view on you" with the second one being fucking terrifying. That i could inadvertently be seen as manipulating my partners thoughts scares the fuck out of me.

jibbycanoe 4

My ex would do shit like ask me "do we have ketchup?" while making a grocery list, in the kitchen, 5 feet from the fridge, and I was in the other room. It's like she didn't like thinking or you know, doing things on her own.

An0th3r0n37003 2

Ugh, I could never depend on someone so much. Usually I just tell him where to show up for the appointment

ENDofZERO 6743 S

Party girls who really love social media and pop culture.

dtothe 1078

What did you find attractive about that?

Studebakers 1490

The party part

in_the_bubbleicious 1260

For anyone who doesn't know, that means drugs

Jordan-S 1063

And the sex

in_the_bubbleicious 805

while on drugs

DaLastMeheecan 567

Don’t forget sex

ArmyOfOne99 167

What’s the little Reddit icon next to your name mean?

DaLastMeheecan 204

Snoogasm

ArmyOfOne99 269

I won’t even ask what that is

gtzgoldcrgo 27

What is that?

Gillian708 10

From Reddit FAQ:

The icon or text which appears next to people's usernames is called "user flair". Each subreddit has its own, and it is set up by the mods. Some subreddits allow users to set their own flair, some subreddits allow users to select their flair from a pre-populated list, some subreddits allow only moderators to allocate flair to users. Read the sidebar of whatever subreddit you want flair in, to find out that subreddit's policy on flair.

In subreddits which allow users to set their own flair, look in the right-hand sidebar for "Show my flair in this subreddit. It looks like: {{ your username }}". It's small, so it may be hard to find. If there is an [edit] button next to your username, click it to select your flair. (If there is no edit button, then you can only receive flair from the mods in this subreddit.)

Itsallanonswhocares 6

With a side of drugs.

in_the_bubbleicious 2

How many?

bremergorst 5

Yes

DIYstyle 3

Having drugs while on sex

Zenpie_ 3

Let's not rule out the "girls" part...

ENDofZERO 403

Because I was young and thought they were fun and really good looking.

I'm from Toronto and the Raps are raping the whole eastern conference right now so I understand the fear, but what is this comment supposed to mean? Danny Green is who you gotta really worry about, not Leonard. And Steph Curry was sitting on the bench with a suit on yesterday while we picked golden state apart. Is this part of his 4D chess?

Edit: That being said, Kevin Durant is a fucking beast. Jesus Christ he almost single handedly handled our team the same way Lebron used to on Cleaveland. Someone pls take Valanciunas away from us cuz he's our fucking demise.

EnhancedMatter 10

A little pretentious, no?

marrymeodell 5

How about people who say they are boring?

MrsRobertshaw 30

But they were fun and good looking. That was what being young was all about. Now you’re older you need more than that but don’t discount the role those fun ‘party girls’ played in your life.

Reddit91210 7

Hot

facetothedawn 7

The showing of skin part, then it quickly turned from jaw-dropping to classless.

obiwanliberty 3

The trendy part

PinheadXXXXXX 3

They can be very vivacious and fun

mountainredneck 404

This. It’s weird that the girls who are way out of my league and would never date me are the same ones I’d never date and have no interest in. The girl who was the stereotypical “hottest girl in the class” is just not what I’m into anymore.

x86core 384

Unfortunately I married this type of girl. I was 26, she was 28. I was a handsome man with a good job. I enjoyed traveling and adventure sports. I would say that I was half way between an extrovert and computer nerd. She was a socialite with a following. She was hot, extremely good with people, and incredibly fun to be around. I thought she fell for me, but really I fell for her. We visited over 60 countries, I taught her how to surf and snowboard, and she took me to some of the most amazing events I have ever been to.

I thought that we could settle down after marriage, but she wanted to keep the party lifestyle going. I wanted kids, she led me on for years. All the signs were there, but I was absolutely mesmerized by her. She didn’t want to give up her individual identity at all. I thought of us, she thought of herself. In all fairness she wanted me to do the same thing, but I couldn’t do it that way.

All I can say is that relationships can be drastically different once real life hits. Some people aren’t equipped to move onto family life even if they indicate that they want to. I’m not sure if social media obsession was the start of the downfall, but it definitely contributed.

While social media is supposed to connect us, the instagram model persona is making us evermore individualistic and isolated.

EDIT: to answer DMs. No, I don’t have kids and I’m still in my early 30s. I had an absolute blast with her, but I should have realized it would never translate to a happy family life. Don’t rush into marriage and make sure you are on the same page before you tie the knot. GET a prenuptial and setup isolated trusts with a proper estate lawyer!

R0SC_4_Cake 44

It sounds like y'all spoke about the future...

But tbf I don't think "family life" needs to be a necessary "next step" if that makes sense?

x86core 14

Correct. I made it very clear what I wanted. I truly believed that she was on board. Once we got married, she had the ring and also got a severe case of FOMO.

VeryMuchDutch101 33

While social media is supposed to connect us, the instagram model persona is making us evermore individualistic and isolated.

This is so true! I really think that live is better without social media that is focused around a personal account like Facebook/twatter/Instagram etc. Reddit is anonymous enough to not really create this fake world

WorkingISwear 24

Some people aren’t equipped to move onto family life even if they indicate that they want to. I’m not sure if social media obsession was the start of the downfall, but it definitely contributed.

Downfall? Of "family life?" This world has too many people in it, and "settling down" and having kids is not the only next step. It's thinking like this that pressures people in to having kids they don't want or aren't ready for. Stop it. Your way is not the only way.

liminoid_lion 7

This hits too close to home. I just broke up with a girl after 3+ years. I was very concerned about HAL we will function as a couple in the adult world because we have met in college. Our relationship Lasted less than one year in the adult world. Also, I completely understand the part about her wanting to keep the party lifestyle going. She told me for three years that she wanted to settle down and live and adult life, and as soon as her dad died and left her some money, she went right back out into partying, staying out late at the bars, and not wanting to have any responsibility. She was absolutely beautiful. She also did not want to give up her individual identity. I also agree with you about the social media. I feel that it kind of lead her astray And gave her falls conceptions about what is normal, what is important, and how valuable she was.

cosinezero 12

We all kinda reinforced that belief about the "popular girls" in each other, and, well, at least for what I've done in those regards, well... I'm sorry.

FarYouth 45

No one loves social media. Its the fear of not being good enough holding you hostage. Most people want to be free from that

omeladuframaj 30

wooohooo

Gladufoundurangel 19

Now we want the opposite lol

ENDofZERO 30

Yea, after a few times where I was bored out of my mind now. Yea. The fuck I care about what Kim Kardashian says.

ChequeBook 17

Yep, 31 now and I find women in comfy clothing super attractive.

Gladufoundurangel 3

👍

mr_herz 8

Party girls are appealing the ways toys are.
A lot of fun that you'll eventually grow out of.

sargetlost 3

that makes a lot of sense

ENDofZERO 2

that makes a lot of sense

ENDofZERO

that makes a lot of sense

old_gold_mountain 5885

Generally speaking I'm fascinated by how, when I was 16 years old, attractive 18 year old women looked like goddesses, but now that I'm 29, anyone younger than like 23 just looks like an innocent child to me and I wouldn't be able to sexualize them even if I wanted to. I mean obviously that's what's supposed to happen, but it's still an interesting transition to go through.

einzigerai 2763

31 currently and when I go to the bars I see 21 year olds and I just think "You look like my 16 year old niece's friends."

My younger friends don't believe me but I've said the same thing to them, your taste will change as you get older.

old_gold_mountain 1355

Judging by the other replies I've gotten, let's hope their taste changes when they get older...😬

piaknow 424

I know right? Jesus Christ. Two younger female friends of mine have recently been involved in horrible relationships/flings with men twice their age. I’m baffled and angry.

365Blistering 305

Everyone gets older, not everyone matures.

_ug1y 34

This hits hard to home. I’m 22 and when I met my ex I was 18, and he was 35. So knowing he looked at me and thought about how young I looked really grosses me out, because obviously I can’t see how young I look to older men. And the thing is, he was a controlling, abusive man. He wasn’t nice at all. I just think a lot of older men pray on younger girls to use to their advantage 😔 four years wasted of my life

in_the_bubbleicious -10

I’m baffled and angry.

That you can't get in on it?

piaknow 11

Well I won’t say that ego isn’t part of it. It sucks to see women I like date people my dad’s age. But I will say that I talked to both of these people about the men probably not having their best interests in mind, and that they should probably date someone in the same stage of life as them. Of course they told me that I didn’t understand, and gave me 2 renditions of the “age is just a number speech.”

One friend was heavily manipulated and lied to for two years (he turned out to be married), but she got out. The other is still actively involved with the person, and she has broken down many times because of the way he treats her.

Both situations are results of mentor/mentee relationships that moved out of the workplace. It seems like the men, in these situations and others like it, get involved because they get off on naive young women that are easy to manipulate. It’s abusive and it infuriates me.

einzigerai 51

I'd venture to guess most peoples tastes change as they age and even if they don't if it's legal and the two consenting parties are happy who am I to say otherwise.

old_gold_mountain 146

Under the law, the second you go from being 17 years and 364 days old to being 18 years old, you go from being too young to make an informed decision about consent to sexual activity, to being old enough to make an informed decision about consent to sexual activity.

But you and I both know there's nothing magical that happens in your brain in that exact moment. It's actually a gradual progression.

Once you start talking about, say, a 25 year old dating a 65 year old, I would certainly consider that outside the norms for our society but I wouldn't consider it "creepy" the same way I'd consider a 58 year old dating an 18 year old "creepy." Because by 25, by all accounts you are a fully mature adult fully capable of looking after yourself. But by 18, I'm not nearly so confident that's the case based on your age alone.

According to the law, a magical switch flipped when the younger party turned 18, I know that's not actually what happened and it's still completely possible that the 18 year old hasn't matured enough to be able to make this kind of decision rationally. There is a significant life experience/maturity imbalance that leaves far too much room for exploitation for me to be comfortable with it.

jldude84 -9

I just love how our government decides who is old enough to know what they're doing and who isn't based on a single day of age.

old_gold_mountain 36

There does have to be a line somewhere.

DerpTheGinger 9

Exactly. It does feel arbitrary, but so would any other point, and nobody is offering a better solution. While I find "half your age plus 7" a good rule of thumb, I don't think it should be codified into law lol

newpua_bie -10

Under the law, the second you go from being 17 years and 364 days old to being 18 years old, you go from being too young to make an informed decision about consent to sexual activity, to being old enough to make an informed decision about consent to sexual activity.

Under which law? Every country, and every US state, has their own Age of Consent laws, and only about half or so of them have the limit at 18 years.

old_gold_mountain 19

So replace the specific year with whatever it happens to be where you are. The core concept remains the same - the law is written as if there's a magic switch that gets flipped the second you pass the age of consent, but that's not how human development actually works.

If anything, the fact that the legal age of consent can vary so much is just further proof that it's basically arbitrary. It's not like a 17 year old in the UK is physiologically more an adult than a 17 year old in New York. So obviously the law is an attempt to reflect reality, and reality shouldn't be extracted from the law. Something being legal doesn't make it not creepy.

cenebi 3

If your only defense for an action is "it's not illegal" you should probably rethink that action.

newpua_bie 0

If anything, the fact that the legal age of consent can vary so much is just further proof that it's basically arbitrary.

Well yeah, I wasn't disputing the fact, merely passing more accurate information. AoC being 18 everywhere in the US is an incredibly common misconception.

vnovendetta 2

semantics, dude

TemporaryPsychology 25

Older guys hooking up with younger women went from inspirational to creepy.

The first group to lose that 'respect' was the college guys that got the HS girls. It definitely became a WTF scenario about the time I was a Junior.

MrBratton 7

My friend told me girls in her sorority will sign up for a site where older men pay to “hang out” with them. These guys are in their 50-60’s and the girls are sometimes 19.

It seems so disturbing to me.

okilokii -6

Mine have stayed the same since I was twelve 🤫

HereForTheGang_Bang 179

I can’t go to certain bars anymore. Especially when I know half the people there are using fakes. I’m 34, those people are half my age.

Earl_Harbinger 144

I've talked to a lot of older guys (45+) from work, and none of them stopped thinking young developed women were attractive. They just found older women attractive too.

poodlecon 12

Not sure if its kosher for a woman (me) to comment on this, but you got it backwards here. Of course young adults/teens (18 and up mistee FBI) are attractive. They're young and have tight skin and no wrinkles or blemishes.

But thats not the point. Its maturity. All those 45 year olds you know still being into teens are in it for a power trip. Im 27, I cant even be friends with people 5 years younger because while we can find common interests they are so emotionally immature and out of my scope of head space rhat I find myself thinking oh lord, you are so naive.... thats natural. And maybe extreme cuz I GUESS Im still young despite how ancient I feel being near 30, but to get back to my point.

If you are over fucking 40 and into an 18 year old you are a goddamn motherfuckin perv and probably like how easy it is to just lead them and do whatever you want. Granted, its legal, but that doesnt stop your ass from being fucking creepy and Ill judge you all day.

Thanks for listening to my TED talk

-Velvet-Elvis- 21

I feel that. I'm 24 and think a 30 year old girl with her shit together sounds perfect.

iocane_ 15

Lol 30 with her shit together

-Velvet-Elvis- 8

Hahaha true. At least working a career type job and not living at home.

iocane_ 6

Lol

sargetlost 7

33 years old, yeah it does sound perfect. And very difficult to find. Single in your 30s trying to find a 26-35 year old woman, who doesn't have a kid(s), who has a decent job and education, who you are also attracted to and have things in common with, and who checks all the other boxes. Like a unicorn.

Edit: and for me add in *is fit, *doesn't drink / party anymore / wanna go "out" all the time, and ideally is not a vegetarian or vegan, I wanna grill a steak for a girl once in a while is that so much to ask

jewfro667 6

I’m with you buddy. Though I’m in a relationship with a vegan girl right now and while it’s great...I do wish there weren’t so many limits at times on what she can eat. If this ends I will for sure likely not date vegan again.

newata 1

Hello

SweetNSaurSauce

We still exist. Hi :)

TheLivesOfFlies 12

Dawg im 20 and 21 year olds look 16 to me, tho 16 year olds also tend to look 21. It makes who i can hit on very confusing

tomhcrowe 5

I get that. It's a dangerous demographic.

turnpikenorth 6

But 26-year-olds will always be sexy no matter how old you get.

not-nick-offerman 0

I'm 32, I still find 18 year old women attractive, but many of them are so insufferable I couldn't bare being around them long enough to flirt. (Some are more mature though, I'm not painting them all with the same brush)

Shevyshev

There is such a thing as age-appropriate-hot. Sitting here about to hit my late thirties, I definitely notice women pushing fifty that I’m attracted to. Not something I would have even entertained the idea of when I was 18.

jldude84 387

Yep. When my older sister was 28 and married with 2 kids (I was like 16 at the time), I always looked to her like she was a well-adapted adult and had her shit together...

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Now I'm 34, and I view 28 year old girls as...well....basically 22. It's weird. I'm way older than I used to picture an "adult", but at the same time I have the energy and optimism and excitement of a 21 year old and probably always will.

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Just makes me wonder what my 16 year old self would have thought of my 34 year old self...if I had had the slightest clue I was bound to endure the shit I did, go the places I did, do the things I've done...

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I wouldn't have believed it.

teekaycee 301

My parents had me in their late-20s, already having had an established career and having been married for a few years. I’m 25 right now and can’t imagine having a child, much less a family.

infidelalion 112

26 and feel the same way.

Interestingly my old man told me the other day that he wished he'd had kids earlier (he was 32 when I was born).

ikbentwee 9

My parents had me and my bro when they were 22 and 25 and now me and my bro are grown and married with kids and my parents have crazy active social lives and are travelling the world.

I suppose there's something to be said for doing that while you're young (backpacking and the like) but now they actually have the money to go to amazing places and stay in amazing places.

jldude84 36

Yep. I distinctly remember being like 12 and knowing in my gut that I was never gonna get married or have kids. My current girlfriend was pregnant when I met her, so I was there for the birth of her daughter, and it's so weird. Well, not weird I guess, but just surreal since I never thought I'd ever have to raise a child in any capacity. And apparently I'm doing a pretty good job. But I still can't picture ever getting married.

_Risings 5

How pregnant was she? Just curious. It’s reassuring to know I could find a man while pregnant. I am not just a weird thought

DIYstyle 2

How pregnant are you?

_Risings 2

I'm negative 10 years out

wait1minutemyass 7

Hey man just wanna say as a guy that just turned 27 on the 15th. And has a 14 month old. IDK WHAT THE FUCK I'M DOING. That being said I'm on the track of doing well at my job, found out my credit score is not to bad. So I've moved buying a house into the 5yr goal column instead of the 10. By the time I'm putting my daughter in school I'm going to be deciding what district I want to be in. Lol if you asked me 2yrs ago I would have told you me and my SO would adopt when were ready. Now I'm a dad of the coolest mf that ever walked the planet earth. Sooooo yea I'll bet it looks like I know what's going on when she hits 25.....but nawwwwww.

WitchettyCunt 6

A minimum wage job was all you needed to support a family of four back in the day. A career could literally be any job.

amp_it 4

My parents had me in their early 20s, already having been married for a couple years and both into their careers. I’m about to be 32 and this has felt nuts to me for over a decade. Though they were both on their second marriages by the time they were the age I am now, and I’m perfectly content being engaged for the first time.

radicalized_summer 8

I have the energy and optimism and excitement of a 21 year old and probably always will.

LMAO

princessturtlecat 63

I’m really happy to see I’m not alone on this. Anyone below a certain age just becomes impossible to be sexually attracted to because there is just such a disconnect/gap in emotional maturity. It feels very wrong. Like I’m taking advantage of them, know something they don’t. I couldn’t find that attractive even if I wanted to.

Gasifiedgap 21

Which is weird. As you see guys bragging about wanting to date women in their early 20s.

I feel the same, I mean 22 year olds can still be attractive but there is absolutely no connection there at all.

Allwillendsoon 53

That's me now heh... Every actress I used to fancy is now too young or kiddish...
Looking for more mature woman

CannedSoupSurvivor 31

don't they... age also..?

SexWomble 29

I always find it weird that there’s such a big disconnect between the number of men who express this sentiment publicly and the most popular genre (teen) on porn sites. Perhaps it’s just that most of us, who find 18 year olds very hot even though we’re 40 just keep quiet on the subject out of shame and it’s the minority experience one hears.

old_gold_mountain 56

I mean to be fair the "teen" genre of porn tends to feature actresses who are clearly in their mid- to late-20s. Just throw some pig tails on them and give them some "homework" to do and bingo bango, now they're a "teen."

Furthermore, I learned pretty early on that the arousal you feel when watching porn is really different and distinct from the attraction you feel towards someone in real life.

SexWomble 7

I mean to be fair the "teen" genre of porn tends to feature actresses who are clearly in their mid- to late-20s. Just throw some pig tails on them and give them some "homework" to do and bingo bango, now they're a "teen."

True, but the fantasy is that of a much younger woman. They deliberately pick women for that genre who could pass as younger.

Furthermore, I learned pretty early on that the arousal you feel when watching porn is really different and distinct from the attraction you feel towards someone in real life.

True, I wouldn’t want to date an 18 year old but some less restrained version of me from a more misogynistic past would definitely fuck them. I don’t think it’s just porn.

tentacledoll 25

You make this claim like teens aren't also looking at porn sites - probably much more than actual adults. And teens tend to be into, ya know, teens.

XLauncher 13

Personally, I just usually keep quiet on this subject because I'd rather not have people low key imply I'm a pedophile for acknowledging the physical attractiveness of 18-20 year olds, even if I wouldn't actually pursue them. Like, I'm 33. My interest in teenage-early 20 year olds may be gone, but ffs, they still look the same, there's no magic in play here.

crystalistwo 19

For me, in my 40's, it's that those who are that young look and sound like idiots.

I have a friend my age who is dating a woman in her mid-20's. For me, I'd rather find and date a woman who knows who Wall of Voodoo is. He's dating a woman who loved ATC. I have no interest in that gap.

old_gold_mountain 25

Yeah totally. But at least someone in their mid-20s is unequivocally old enough to be considered a mature adult who's responsible for themselves. Too many replies in this thread have been acting like as soon as someone turns 18 it's not creepy for someone who voted in the Bush/Dukakis election to go after them.

totally_jawsome 19

As 27 year old woman I feel that too. Anyone under the age of 22 look like babies. I can't imagine sexualizing them. It's weird because I used to see 20 year old people as sexy. But now they look like little tragic messes.

SpiderPres 12

I’m 20 and I resemble that remark you meanie

GJacks75 19

This is a good thing. I'm glad I remain attracted to my own age group. Old men creeping on twentysomethings is gross.

captainstormy 18

It gets worse. I'm 34 and anyone younger than like 28ish looks like they are in highschool.

Weather53 15

What do you mean that’s what’s supposed to happen? I know 40 year olds who would get with an 18 year old in a heartbeat.

old_gold_mountain 91

Yeah and those people are creeps

whenthethingscollide 5

Folks, this is what jealousy looks like..

old_gold_mountain 22

I'm currently engaged to be married to a beautiful woman 6 months younger than me. Someone I see as my peer and equal.

I absolutely assure you I am not jealous in any way of lecherous creeps going after girls that are way too young for them. And if you're one of those guys, then for the good of everyone around you keep it to yourself and work on developing healthier attractions.

Raenryong

Find some older women who aren't immediately after marriage and kids and who are in very good shape. Until they can provide that...

whenthethingscollide -11

Hey, if you think deciding whether or not relationships that have no bearing on your personal well-being are creepy or not isn't jealous behavior, you're probably a lost cause. You're wrong, but you have every right to be wrong.

old_gold_mountain 15

It doesn't have to affect me directly for me to be opposed to the sexual exploitation of young women.

Let me ask you this, do you believe that statutory rape is morally wrong in cases where there is a large age difference? Assuming yes, do you believe that the reason it's morally wrong is because it's illegal, or do you believe the reason it's illegal is because it's morally wrong?

whenthethingscollide 7

sexual exploitation of young women

Adult women in consenting relationships = exploitation to you?

My friend, do you realize that infantilizing grown women like that is sexist?

And surely you understand that the reason it's wrong isn't because it's illegal, but because it's exploitative?

And surely you understand that that dynamic does not magically cease to exist the second it becomes legal?

There's no magic switch that goes off in a young person's brain the moment they reach the age of consent. Someone who just turned 18 is basically exactly as immature and inexperienced as someone who is about to turn 18. Legality aside, the moral implications of engaging with someone who's 17.9 years old are essentially exactly the same as the moral implications of engaging with someone who's 18 years old.

And yes, entering a sexual relationship with someone who is either 17.9 or 18 years old, when you are much older than that, is exploitative, which is why it is morally wrong.

TheUltimateAntihero

or 18 years old, when you are much older than that, is exploitative, which is why it is morally wrong.

According to you. Now what if she's 30 biologically but is 13 mentally? Then what? And you're also 30. Should you be made to feel awful that you're fucking a kid? Everyone doesn't magically mature at 18. Some mature later than that and some mature quicker than that (oh yes they do). We've not mind readers who can read others minds and know of their maturity. Live and let live. I've seen many 30+ year olds married to 18 or 21 year olds and it's all good. Sometimes it's a problem, sometimes it's not. As long as it's not, why do you care?

MattieShoes -2

What if he's fabulously wealthy and she's looking for a payday?

whenthethingscollide 6

Addressing your ninja edit,

Statutory rape is wrong because it is sex with someone who can't consent. That is wrong at any age difference.

18 year old women can consent. Because they are adults. Thus, it is not statutory rape. Did you not realize this? Why are you even bringing rape into this? Is this the fullest extent of your grasp of logic?

old_gold_mountain 9

You really think there's some magic switch that flips the split second someone turns 18, that imbues their brain with the maturity and life experience to be able to consent?

No. The age of consent is an estimation drawn at a pretty much arbitrary point simply because it must be drawn somewhere.

Physiologically speaking, a 17.9 year old is pretty much identical to an 18 year old, and legality notwithstanding, the moral implications of engaging sexually with either one is basically the same because their maturity, physiology, and life experience are basically the same.

If you actually believe that a 17.9 year old is too immature to be able to consent, not because of the law but because of the inherent properties of being that young, then those moral implications do not magically disappear the day they turn 18. They fade away slowly with time.

Stepping over large gaps in age to engage sexually with someone who is just barely past the legal age of consent is exploitative for the same reason doing it with someone who is about to reach the age of consent is exploitative. Not because of the letter of the law, but because of the difference in maturity, life experience, and capacity to make rational decisions.

whenthethingscollide 8

You really think there's some magic switch that flips the split second someone turns 18, that imbues their brain with the maturity and life experience to be able to consent?

It might. That switch gradually flips over time, sometimes at 18, sometimes before, sometimes after. Maturity and life experience are dependent on the individual person. Some develop this before 18, some long after 18.

the moral implications of engaging sexually with either one is basically the same because their maturity, physiology, and life experience are basically the same.

As is the implications of engaging with someone who's 18 and 18.1. As well as 18.1 and 18.2. And so on, but you slowly realize that with your logic, it's immoral to have sex with anyone at any age, because they're basically the same as they were in the recent past. Surely you see the flaw in this.

If you actually believe that a 17.9 year old is too immature to be able to consent, not because of the law but because of the inherent properties of being that young, then those moral implications do not magically disappear the day they turn 18. They fade away slowly with time.

No, sleeping with someone too immature to consent of any age is morally wrong. A person can be too immature to consent at any age. You didn't tell what "life experiences" are needed to reach the proper moral maturity levels. Are these experiences really shared among all adults?

All you have is a set of nondescript amorphous principles that don't make sense once you step back and look at them. That is, until you realize that you're just being condescendingly sexist towards young women, claiming that they can't possibly have the life experiences and maturity necessary to enter a sexual relationship. You call yourself a feminist? Really? You think you're really a genuine feminist? The fact that you feel the urge to announce it, coupled with your backwards views, suggests otherwise.

danceycat 2

You explained this so well, but the fact that you even have to explain and break it down is really disconcerting to me

YT-Deliveries -6

Eh, they're both adults. Who am I to judge.

old_gold_mountain 51

The age of consent in the UK is 16. If you saw a 60 year old making out with a 16 year old in London would you withhold judgement of the 60 year old's character? I sure wouldn't.

There's loads of perfectly legal things you can do that will still cause me to judge you, and I contend rightfully so.

YT-Deliveries 1

As it is in most US states.

I’d say a relationship with that large an age gap is questionable.

Shaltharis -12

to be fair people are judged for completely asinine things.

old_gold_mountain 23

Yeah and also for completely valid things, which I think this would qualify as.

jldude84 -6

Honestly as progressive and liberal as Europeans claim to be when it comes to morals and sex and nudity and all, I honestly didn't expect some to be so damn judgmental when you bring up a teenager dating a 60 year old.

Shaltharis -5

their secret is they're not that liberal

jldude84 -14

Thinking it is one thing, being a fucking dick about it and voicing it is another.

OnlyReadsFirstLine 10

Being 60 and making out with a 16 year old is more of a dick move

thespookyspectre 11

I can’t believe I’m actually reading this argument right now. Someone is arguing that we shouldn’t judge a 60 year old for making out with a teenager because it’s ‘technically’ legal. What the hell is going on here.

Greyfeld -27

And why wouldn't you judge the 16yo's character? It takes two people to make out, yo.

old_gold_mountain 40

Because they're too young and haven't had enough life experience and haven't mentally matured enough to be held responsible for that decision to the same degree as the 60 year old.

Greyfeld -26

If they're old enough to legally have sex, then they're old enough to be held to the standard of your average adult. 16yo's don't just wander the streets and get randomly scooped up by old perverts dangling candy from the side of their vans. They've made a purposeful decision, and are old enough to be held accountable for it.

There is no magical number where a "teenager" suddenly becomes an "adult" and can "think for themselves." And there are plenty of adults twice that age who shouldn't be trusted to think for themselves. It would be great if we could stop infantalizing people all the way up into their 20's.

old_gold_mountain 24

There's no magical switch in your brain that flips on midnight of your birthday when you enter the age of legal consent. Maturity is a gradual process. Even a 21 year old will be less mature and have less capacity to make rational decisions than a 25 year old. The specific age of consent should obviously be abided to, but the line is arbitrary and you don't get carte-blanche to engage sexually with someone the moment they cross it without opening yourself up to being judged by society, assuming there is a significant age difference between you. Just because it's legal doesn't put you ethically in the clear.

Greyfeld -8

I'm well aware of the fact that legality doesn't necessarily mean people won't judge you. I'm just pointing out that there are two people involved and if you want to crease your brow and wag your finger at one of them, you should be doing it at both.

ProudBlackMatt -11

age shaming

Yikes

old_gold_mountain 25

Nothing wrong with being 40. Still creepy as fuck to be 40 and trying to get with 18 year olds.

GundalfNP 2

using "yikes"

Yikes

ProudBlackMatt 3

using "yikes"

Yikes

Yikes

King_Thor -12

Male Feminists are creeps too so I see why you're an expert in this matter

old_gold_mountain 9

I can't wait to hear all about how believing people should be treated equally regardless of their gender is exactly as creepy as being older than the internet and having sexual relations with someone who was in 1st grade when the iPhone came out.

infidelalion 1

It's just a bit of an odd thing to declare in your tag. Most people believe in gender equality.

I completely agree with your posts btw. I'm 26, 18 year olds look like kids to me and have for a fair few years now.

old_gold_mountain 4

It's highly relevant to this sub because my flair describes my gender and relevant information about the way I perceive and interact with gender.

infidelalion -3

Sure, but most people are 'feminists'. The contention surrounds how 'feminism' has been politicised, so declaring yourself a 'feminist' carries connotations beyond simply thinking people should be treated equally.

Sure, but most people are 'feminists'. The contention surrounds how 'feminism' has been politicised, so declaring yourself a 'feminist' carries connotations beyond simply thinking people should be treated equally.

old_gold_mountain 5

That's exactly why I put it on my flair. I want to disarm and demystify the term by undermining the inaccurate stereotypes that surround it.

I never said it was illegal for a 40 year old to date an 18 year old, I said that if you do that you're a creep.

Weather53 -27

How are they creeps if that’s legal?

old_gold_mountain 36

It's legal to stare at someone on the bus while licking your lips too, and also creepy as fuck.

Weather53 -25

Are you really trying to compare that to a 30+ year old man finding an 18 year old woman attractive? What you’re doing is treating your opinion as if it’s a fact.

old_gold_mountain 33

I see we've gone down from 40 to 30+, and down from "dating" to "finding attractive"

Weather53 -9

I don’t understand why it matters if both ages are older than you, and you at 29 already find it creepy.

old_gold_mountain 28

Yeah I do find it creepy if someone my age dates an 18 year old. The maturity and life experience imbalance creates a scenario rife for exploitation.

Rpanich 3

At the end of the day it means you either have the maturity of someone decade(s) younger than you, or you’re ignoring that level of immaturity because you care more about their physical looks even though you understand that they’re psychologically less mature than you.

cluelessasscarperson 50

My ex is almost 40. He still wears gaming t-shirts and watches twitch all day. For some reason he only goes after women 25 or younger. I was the oldest person he's dated at age 27. I didn't make anything of it at the time. But looking back I think there's some really unresolved issues. Not so much that he's creepy, but he just hasn't realized his own age yet.

Kimpractical 18

I think that’s exactly what it is. It’s like people like that have the same exact mindset at 40 as they did at 20, so they don’t think there’s a difference mentally between them and a 20 year old. I’m 34 and I would not want to date a 20 year old because I remember what I was like at that age and I was too freaking immature to handle anything. I think some people just carry that immaturity with them for the rest of their lives

Raenryong 3

How do you think he should spend his free time?

cluelessasscarperson 4

Taking care of himself. Hands down. I did not mind his hobbies even if they were watching busty women play games. He just did not have his shit together for his age.

JonDoesSomeThings 15

In my personal opinion (and being of that age demographic myself) the majority of college students are just children who have managed to be lucky enough to not die for long enough to be considered legally "ok" for adults to fuck.

RawdogginYourMom 11

Dude come to Florida. So many women here in that age bracket look like they’re over 30. Nobody here believes in sunscreen.

LeprekhaunNL 5

Whats sunscreen?

ThatOneGuy6381 9

I’m only 21 so I can’t really speak on your particular experience, but I’ve thought the same thing as far as high school age experience. When I was a sophomore, I thought I was in school with the hottest women ever. Now that I’m 21, I don’t even know if I’d date under 20. Any number that ends in “teen” is too low for me.

jadamsmash 6

I'm the total opposite. When I was in my teens I had a thing for milfs. Now that I'm in my late 20s I have a thing for girls in the 18-21 range.

deathtoniggers69 6

I don't fuck with anyone over 18.

18-18 is my range

Ghlhr4444 4

You're so full of shit lol

captainstormy 3

It gets worse. I'm 34 and anyone younger than like 28ish looks like they are in highschool.

pr0t0504 3

Eh I'm 31 seeing a 21 and regularly date under 25 not that I'm looking for it but it just happens. Never crazy party girls though always very well spoken and nice women I honestly find it harder to find a 30 something that I get along with.
But to keep with the topic I would say nerdy girls not as in smart because that is something I look for but you know anime, video games and comic types. Although I still look for them 9 times out of 10 they are just bad people with no drive or much intelligence. Sad because I really want someone that's into all that and can keep up with me and the things I want to do. I'm sure I'll find it one day maybe.

Sun_King97 3

I wish men like you were more common.

Chronochrome 2

I'm 26 and I feel the same way. Usually anyone even remotely close to 24 looks like a baby to me.

I'm still attracted to young women but it's muddied by a protective instinct. Like with a 28 year old I don't mind if things go sour because she'll get over it. The risk isn't too high given the reward. But with an 18 year old I would be worried about fucking her up. I'll still go on a date with an 18 year old but I'd only pursue anything further if we fell madly in love. Which hasn't happened so I prioritize older women.

It's interesting that you mention 23 specifically. The past few dates I've gone on were with 23 year olds. What I've actually seen is that I get along decently with them because they have at least one year of real life experience but usually only have one bad relationship as baggage.

erdtirdmans 0

I would just say my tastes have continued to expand. Obviously I have no interest in dating across a sizeable age gap, but porn? Yeah fine. 19, 20. Still hot.

natephant 5425

I don’t think they’ve become unattractive, but they’ve just moved out of the ‘relationship material’ category,

My best friend is a “woo girl” I love her fiercely, but at the same time I hate the “woo’s”

She accepts this, she loves me back, but will still “woo” when drunk. You have to accept a little give and take in a relationship

Loocsiyaj 173

Not as bad as my friend who woos, after like 4 Coronas. He’s kind of embarrassing...

Montuckian 18

Yeah, but there's a line.

TheRealLilGillz14 30

And we draw it at furries.

AMA_About_Rampart 16

And she crossed it! WOOOOOO!!

surgicalapple 17

I’m dumb. Wooo?

ImNotBoringYouAre 48

They literally just yell "Wooo", randomly and loudly, when drunk. It isn't like a meme, or reference, just a natural reaction whenever they get drunk. It is probably something they do to get attention. You know those little kids that scream at the top of their lungs when happy and running around? Imagine those kids grown up and drunk.

sturnus-vulgaris 8

Oh no. I just found out my wife is a woo girl. I knew there was something off for years, but I never had a name for it.

As a nurse, I'm not sure if I should be offended, or if maybe you're actually right.

natephant 202

Well... do you ‘woo’ ?

jojotrain 381

Also nurse, in my younger years... I must admit I was a woo girl but with age I'm all woo-ed out.

UmbertoEcoTheDolphin 14

Wooagra. Get your woo back.

obiwanliberty 52

Asking the real questions

rachanel 76

As a nurse I am offended. All the nurses I know are too cynical for that

avadakesandwich 107

Also a nurse- what nurses have the energy/ability to express this sort of excitement?
Also we hate sudden loud noises?

_-__-__-__-__-_-_-__ 50

Call light sound

avadakesandwich 78

hisses

POSVT 12

*Infusion pump beeping intensifies*

ciestaconquistador 6

Right? Get out of here with your woos.

stegblobirl 5

No, it seems you actually died and the woo’s were really just air escaping from the rolls of fat.

lilmeanie 3

My wife is a nurse. Can confirm woo girls until they settle down. Which just means between wine bottles in this case.

tgwinford 11

It’s definitely the teachers and the nursing students. By the time they become an actual nurse they’re all wooed out.

MinionCommander 4

Mines a teacher

PedanticWiseAss 4

Male teacher here. 3/5 women in my team are Woo girls.

ryno_25 179

Knew it even before I watched it

kinbladez 127

Exactly what I expected, and wanted. Love HIMYM.

redditman1998 30

Until they introduced and killed the mother in a matter of 3 episodes.

perpetualvirgin 20

"How I Murdered Your Mother"

TemporaryPsychology 7

I think how you took HIMYM and the ending depends heavily on your age and life experiences at that point.

I cried hard. Because I had just gotten married, knew people that had lost their first wife and that was my number 1 fear. Some of those people did move on to people in their past.

But the whole series pretty much mirrored my age, dating and life experiences.

MyCatNeedsShoes 98

Oh god, I'm a woo girl. Nooooooooooooooooooooooo

MrsRobertshaw 182

I think you mean
Woooooooooooooooooooooo

iflingshitcoins 64

Omg this is spot on. I even dated one for a minute who actually taught at a Waldorf school.

Kimbrielslice 32

Ay medow saprano I never noticed that was her

brokedman45 11

Meadow out there wildin. She best hope Tony dont hear about that shit.

claytonrex 2

Didn't know what woo girls were, but this is exactly what came to mind.

natephant 349

The kind of girls who yell “woooo” and get sloppy at brunch,

Bxsnia 291 G

oh yeah, yikes

electrogeek8086 261

How the hell did you get gold for this lol.

Brrchuck 43

You can gold yourself

Doigenunchi 44

Yeah go ahead and go gold yourself

Daft-Bastard 9

Shower yourself in gold

Alertcircuit 106

Yeah shrieking definitely goes in the cons category

AstroAwesome 5

Girls that go "woo"

GoddessAvery97 79

Upvote for stellar HIMYM reference.

natephant 12

Don’t. Ive never even seen it until someone just posted it below my comment,

GoddessAvery97 5

Aw :(

natephant -2

I never jumped on that shoes bandwagon And I’m too busy to commit to something like that right now 🤷🏼‍♂️

roachezmo 20

Perfect name for it. Agreed.

toppagelame 16

I’m a recovering woo girl addict. I used to date bar girls often and then I fell in love a woo girl 2 years ago. She was a teacher, my ex wife is a teacher. Teachers are def woo girls. Anyways I’ve moved and let my woo girls go. I’m with a biker girl now, she’s bad ass and is the polar opposite of woooooooo girl!!!!!

DukeInterior 10

My ex is now a bit of a 'woo girl'. She wasn't when we were together, we were quite introverted and quiet but when we split she moved into this house share and went pretty woo.

We're still friends, but it helped a lot in getting over her when I realised I'd find her almost insufferable to date now.

YT-Deliveries 5258

Super high-energy all the time.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a couch potato.

But being with someone who is "on" from the time they wake up to the time they go to bed is exhausting.

HorseMeatSandwich 1331

I'm a highly social introvert, if that makes sense. I love doing social things and hanging out with friends, but I definitely need to recharge by being alone doing nothing for a while.

My first girlfriend was one of the most "on all the time" people I've ever met, and it was SO exhausting, but I just didn't know any better. Once we broke up and I started dating other girls, I realized how much emotional effort I had been putting in and how comfortable a relationship can be.

Mcquiz 136

It definitely makes sense. I need to socialize a lot but l also need to recharge a lot.

princessturtlecat 23

That’s an ambivert :)

JarHeadJoseph 26

Ambivert. That’s what most people are.

HorseMeatSandwich 4

Yes! That’s it. Totally forgot about that term. I know a lot of people who are very clearly one or the other, but you’re probably right that most fall somewhere in the middle.

Unrelated but are you a Marine?

pandabear_jen 3

I've finally found a name for my social habits! Boy do I love me some time alone just chillin. But if I get too much of that, I get stir crazy.

Cajun_Coullion 1

Thank you for giving me a description of my social behaviors... “Highly social introvert” lmao

No12Judge

That probably describes me. I made an effort to be more social but I get panicky if I'm around people for too long.

YourGFsOtherAccount 345

Intro vs extrovert. I used to think I wanted someone extremely outgoing and bubbly to fill the traits I don't excel out but turns out I really need someone who shares a similar level of energy I do. The ability to enjoy nights out on the town, concerts, travelling but not exude this unsustainable level of energy regarding everything.

WhiteMessyKen 77

I need balance. For some reason, it seems pretty hard to find that .. and then you have to hope the person is pleasant.

I don’t necessarily think it’s introverted vs extroverted. I’m a pretty extroverted person and I wouldn’t hesitate to cancel plans and stay in/don’t need to be on all the time.

GundalfNP 91

My girlfriend is always on, it's pretty exhausting. I don't know how much longer I can keep up

BonBon666 49

Do you ever talk to her about it?

axnoa 116

Yeah just tell her to turn off

arcsector2 27

XBOX TURN OFF

KleineSandra 17

I'm an "always on" kind of girl, and though my boyfriend is very sociable, but really needs his "me time" to recharge after social interactions. We agreed very early on that I'd just leave him alone for an hour or more to play computer games, and only bother him if it's important.

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If she loves you, she'll be able to understand. I wouldn't want to feel like I'm draining my boyfriend. I bet that she just wants you to be as happy and bubbly as she is, but she'll have to understand that in order for you to be happy and relaxed, you need time to yourself.

jldude84 66

Everything in moderation. Nothing sucks the energy and positivity out of the relationship faster than a girl who would prefer to sit on her ass and scowl all day while yelling at her 3 year old.

allieggs 43

I don’t think that’s being a homebody as much as it is just plain old negativity though. Lots of people are upbeat but also just plain don’t want to be on their feet all the time.

imhereforthecookies5 16

I’m definitely a homebody, but I think what you described is more like a miserable person, because I’m not that.

AustinA23 2

including moderation lol

Kataphractoi 32

I ser this a lot in dating profiles. "If im at home on the weekend I feel I'm wasting my life" type stuff.

fallout52389 13

Omg this so much. I didn’t know I was an introvert when I was younger and I was attracted to extroverted girls and it would just exhaust me and to the point where I dreaded to try to flirt with them.

Now that I’m more aware I know what it’s like so i try to stick with other introverts as much as I can.

Kracken93 8

I am one of those people that is ON as soon as I wake up until I go to bed. It drives my fiance mad how I can do so much all the time. We just decided that I'm not allowed to wake or bother her until a certain time every morning and I just bring her coffee and back slowly away.

Brisingr097 4

I am a 21yo and I can confirm that I'd love to have someone energetic with me all the time.

that emo/scene/sad girl thing... fuck all that. happy women are more fun

YaBoiTROD 3708 S x 3

But what about big titty goth gfs?

Itsallanonswhocares 2600

Goth is an aesthetic, being a fucking downer is a character flaw.

Cl0ck_F4ce 343

Damn right.

seraphine288 34

And being depressed is a serious condition.

CzarAlexander 32

Or, you know, some mixture of depression and anxiety.

EDIT: Just wanted to say I'm not making any claims about whether one should or shouldn't date when dealing with depression, anxiety, or any other mental illness. All I'm saying is "character flaw" is a bit harsh. You wouldn't call kidney failure or a broken arm a "character flaw."

Am_Snarky 30

Well said!

rawrrawrrawra 2

The worst is a trying to fake happy downer. I had to leave when I realized that she was trying to drown me because she was drowning.

Hmm, this is a touchy one. While I too definitely would prefer the slightly goth-ey, emo-ey type because I'm kinda introverted, I could see how it would be depressing if they were ALWAYS like that. I mean ya gotta laugh and have fun and get excited and smile sometimes...even if you wear all black and have jewelry in your lip.

CelebrityMartyr 298

Bro do I have a chick for you...

Me

J-L-Picard 42

Sub tag checks out, wouldn't be the first time people met on Reddit. You two need to get in touch

CelebrityMartyr 54

I did a quick profile check. He’s taken :(

But for anyone else reading, if you like the original commenters description, I’m your go to girl :)

J-L-Picard 72

Looks like you got comment-zoned

Fingimbog 24

How do you ask someone out through reddit, asking for a friend.

J-L-Picard 16

Probably start with a polite pm, chat a bit, then ask for a phone number. After you text, ask for location, if you're close, meet for coffee or lunch or something. Idk, that's how I'd do it

I honestly enjoy the aesthetic, personally really like wearing black, except it's hot as hell where I live so it sort of sucks. A touch of cynical humor is always fun too.

MintyFreshMetagross 2

Hey there 😉.

But in a not thirsty way, goth aesthetic is life.

The_JEThompson 9

Come on u/jldude84 you gonna ask her out or what? Check the post history, she’s cute!

NAMERTAGG 8

Now we're in love, right? Yeah.. pretty sure that's how this works.

CelebrityMartyr 7

Yes

NAMERTAGG 13

HOLY SHIT... IT'S HAPPENING! Mom!! get the camera!

xxcobroxx 9

I'm comingnfised

Edit:shit it was supposed to say "I'm confused happy and thoroughly amused all at once." but I feel this word describes that well.... Maybe

john_boi 6

Hey it's me, the dude

xsalvaz 3

now kith

roachezmo 146

Still have a thing for the look, though. 05-07 was the sweet spot. Big hair, tight jeans, raccoon eyes. It did it for me, sad to see it Not nearly as prevalent and nearly extinct in my age range (though it makes sense)

f3nnies 52

I married one. Found her in college, was always a loser so never got one in high school. Hung out with them, but I wasn't androgynous so they didn't go for me.

Best decision of my life. If anything, she's hotter now with a matured and thinned face, and then she does the swoopy bangs and the raccoon eyes and I'm swooning like I'm 16 again.

And she was never dramatically suicidal or anything. None of the scene kids I knew had any real issues like the stereotype. Some had depression, welcome to being a teenager, but that's it. It was just fashion and music. We still go to the same concerts and everything.

Bool_The_End 22

You should show this post to your wife, it’s really sweet :)

daddy_fiasco 22

I love the scene girl look, just not scene girls

roachezmo 17

Fair. In my experience (at least back in my day) they were mostly just valley girls playing emotional dress up, which was certainly off putting to me.

I don't mind a girl with daddy issues, but I'm not going to date them... just saying...

hitmynameisbobler 31

So are you gonna date the daddy then?

Marthinwurer 13

My gay friend would.

kkfreak 11

Only if he has daddy issues too. Daddy issues yum.

Broken_Angel- 56

Nah, I like chill people. Happy people are just as tiring as sad people imo.

naked_avenger 81

chill and happy arent mutually exclusive

Broken_Angel- 20

If you describe someone as chill, I think laid back and positive. When you describe someone as happy, I think all smiles, upbeat, and excited.

noBoobsSchoolAcct 9

Came here to say that. I used to love girls with hair dyed in crazy colors, but experience has shown that they have some kind of mental issues that will only turn to drama at some point or another. Now I only look for women who seem honestly happy with their lives and who are working to improve themselves somehow. It's just so much less drama and much more true happy times.

turnpikenorth 1

In my experience, the same could be said about fat girls. At least in their case though they can fix up a mean plate. Content, fit, sweet girls is my bread and butter, but as you get older they become harder to find.

Also agree. Scene chicks used to be my shit back in high school. But as I got older I also realized a big majority of them normally have self esteem issues, motivational issues, and/or family issues. Now it's just more of a "I hope she gets past that phase" kind of reaction when I see them.

greg225 3078 S

For some reason when I was young I had a thing for really thin braids in girls' hair, I don't know why. Think like the kind Monica has in the Barbados episode of Friends, but only having one or two instead of an entire head of them.

hell0neverland 1181

That is so specific and def my favorite answer 😂

stabby_joe 35

Every time I see an emoji on reddit it looks so out of place, as if it's satire (like /r/antimlm usage)

alyaaz 173

That was a trend in the early 2000s so that makes sense

fields4mint 34

I used to do my hair like that when I was a teen. I thought it made me look like a wood elf.

Ill_Silva 15

Padawans. You use to be into padawans.

PompousPontificator 13

What do you know...it’s a treat for the eyes and the ears

beep1994 7

Like in bridge to terabithia?

Blackrain1299 1

I’ve always disliked the braids. Never had a thing for them

AHairyFishsticks 2991 S

My ex wife.

IcePunchGaborade 950

F

Asylumsix 276

F

madmurphywashere 54

F

smilespeace 13

Well it's a fair answer. F

Prestonisevil

F uck that bitch

topcorjor 8

F

dudeleburger 204

Well put. Touché

Brrchuck 10

I also choose this guy's ex wife

I also chose this guy's ex wife

p0tat0nug 3

This man divorces

Suckapunch1979 2814

Girls who like to party and get wasted every weekend. Now I prefer a low key girl that likes to stay home and watch movies or whatever

cbarnes15 721

Can I ask a personal question?

If so, were you in your 20s during the early 2000’s?

Suckapunch1979 605

I was. I graduated high school in 1998

poorstudent2018 4303 G

You mean they partied like it was 1999?

Average_Manners 934

I hate that I physically needed to upvote this.

jbeats1 29

the level of meta and detail +1

MashingDamnPotates 20

HAHAHHAHAHA

cbarnes15 22

Aye cheers. I was 2 years old then but my cousin graduated the same year and he used to love party girls. He would tell me that him and his friends solely went after party girls in their college years.

hillvalleyNov121955 25

Yeah the whole party/getting wasted scene is gone now. Phones killed it. No one wants to let themselves go knowing that 10 ass clowns will film it and post it online. Glad I turned 18 in 2000.

xfactoid 51

I see you haven’t been to college since you finished college.

hillvalleyNov121955 4

Didn't go to college. Just bars and clubs in general are in decline. In the UK anyway.

allhaillordreddit 12

That scene still very much exists, at least currently in college

sulleninseattle 9

Omg all I want is a man who wants that. I’m glad to know they are out there.

SailorLavendoom 5

Same! I’ve never been into clubs or going to bars every night or even every weekend. Going out every once in a while is nice, but I love staying in.

EternalPieMaker 1983

Girls who want me less than I want them. The sex was never worth it in the long-run. Now if a girl isn't super into me, I can't be be bothered to put in the effort I used to make up for that. It just seems sad even if I'm successful in the end. Life isn't a romance movie.

smilespeace 1851 S

"I want you to fight for me"

Said the girl who wouldn't lift a finger to make my life better.

PhillyEagles131 403

Wow that hit close to home

Snaccbacc 45

You just described my ex

IamOzimandias 35

Ugh

Or "What have you done for me lately" . How about destroy my health covering for your bad decisions.

Mrknowitall666 27

This is difft I think, than being into me.

There are girls who thrive on the drama of "fighting for them". One I dated said it was because she liked make up sex and unless we fought we couldnt make up. Which really translated into she craved rough sex every now and again but couldn't get her heard around that and needed the fight before to get her head there.

unicoMEB 18

Uuurrrggg that line.... Why do (some) women use it? Its like if you have to fight for it then its probably wrong.

Had an ex once say "I want us to fight for this" and that worked cause it showed we are both into saving this.

But Fight for Me is just "you do all the work"

FletchForPresident 12

Yeah. She didn't love you nearly so much as she loved the idea of being fought for. I know the type.

DApice135 8

This is a good one. I had a chick that I really liked and found out that there was some other guy at her job that she was hanging out with. I told her

"I will fight for and with you but I will never compete for you."

That has been so helpful through the years when I run into that problem and these days it is every girl but the same works for me too.

slipstream808 6

I HAAATE that phrase. "I want to see yoi fight for me".
I'm like what does that mean? I know it doesn't mean getting fist fight for you. But at the same time why do I always have to fight for you? When do I get to sit there and just bask in the glow of having you? And the enjoyment of that.

littlestminish 44

You know that saying that "if you love what you do you'll never work a day."

That definitely goes for relationships and courtships.

samema 8

Aw so cute

krasavetsa 6

My parents have been married for 30 years and my Mom still greets Dad each time he walks into the door. It’s a small act but really shows how much she loves and enjoys even just his presence.

NDD73 1846

Big silicone boobs.

TinyTinyDwarf 793

Yeah they honestly make me a bit sad. Natural's are so much more attractive.
When my favourite 'pornstar' (not really a pornstar, but it's porn) got implant, I admittedly lost quite a substantial amount of interests.

She's wanted them done since young, which, you do you, but to me, it's not as attractive as it used to be.

the-virgin-sangria 612 S

I miss the old Lana Rhoades too

JaiBlade 370

Lana is one of the most tragic stories you can learn about. Not just because of her transformation but there's actually evidence of when she was asking how to become a movie star. She was young af on yahoo questions asking if she's pretty enough to make it in Hollywood or some shit.

sadwitches 251

you're not that good looking, but decent enough to lick my asshole for $50

MsJenX 40

So she didn’t become an actress?

Mathahunter 29

What's the story behind? I had no idea on how she became a porn star

Moruitelda 38

She posted on Yahoo Answers when she was 14 asking how to become the next Angelina Jolie or something, with a picture of herself (she looked roughly like a naturally-made up 14 year old Lana Rhoades), and got two answers: one saying she's not pretty enough, and another that read like a creep who was trying to sleep with her.

Lol, love how you know the personal life of, and have a "favorite pornstar".

Smaggles_ 43

i think a lot of people do. especially in the age of patreon discord servers chaturbate and premium snapchats.

also who doesnt have a favorite pornstar lmao

Hyper_with_Huperzine -17

Chaturbate?, 😂 don't you have something more productive to be doing.

Smaggles_ 13

are you really laughing at the fact people look at porn right now? i dont think anyone ever looked at any form of porn and went "im being productive right now" chaturbates the exact same as pornhub, just a different pile

Hyper_with_Huperzine -11

I thought there was an implied "chat" while masturbating. Which is hilarious, so correct me if I'm wrong.
I approach sex from two positions (actually there are hundreds ba dum tsss). Either there is an emotional connection with another person involved, or it's just fun, stress relief, mindless fucking.
Either it's oh baby or_I have a busy life... Let me check my schedule to see if you can help me 'fill a hole'.

Kataphractoi 8

Said the person on reddit.

TinyTinyDwarf 12

Well firstly it's an Porn couple. They are 'KinkyCouple111' or something. She recently had a boob-job and commented on the video where she introduced these new tits why she got them, and that she always wanted them.

I don't really much care for the personality of these people. Once I've came they concern me as much as last years snow.

storunner13 1

That was totally going to be my guess. Her natural boobs are more my thing.

WhiteMessyKen 21

I understand why they get them, but I feel the same way....most women I've dated tended to have small breasts but were also a bit insecure about them until I give them attention.

hifeyokidshideyowifi 10

Eva notty.

DEEEPFREEZE 9

Probably will be downvoted for this, but blind attraction to giganto honkers always seemed so barbaric to me — like someone incapable of recognizing or controlling primal urges.

aarontbarratt 4

Miss Sarah Banks pre boob job

Offandonandoffagain 178

I love the way real tits hang and sway, and yes even sag.

ItsPrisonTime 18

They sway much more when they're down by the knees. =]

YT-Deliveries 126

Lots of guys say this, but, honestly, I think all boobs are good boobs and if she likes the way her boobs look with augmentation, more power to her.

PantherEverSoPink 99

I've seen some bad fake boobs. I think we all have.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying women shouldn't get them (although maybe some should give it more thought). There are just some that objectively don't look as good as before being done.

MattieShoes 58

I don't think the two are incompatible. Having preferences doesn't imply having a desire to take away other peoples agency.

HeyyyKoolAid 20

Totally agree. I love boobs. Fake, or real. But if you're going to get them done, get them done right and tastefully.

dutchessofnothing 1

Thumbs up dude

alfredo094 8

I can't see why anyone finds them attractive.

SumoSizeIt 5

There’s something sexy about big, engorged body parts, in the right mood and setting.

ocbay 7

I find it offensive. Au natural baby, that’s how I like em. Swing low sweet chariots.

everythangspeachie 5

I dont understand how ANYONE can find those attractive

anima1mother 5

Cant say as I like the tig ole bittys any more myself

M-em-o 2

Nah big tits are big tits son

asshatnowhere 2

BIG AMERIKAN TITTIES COUSIN!

YOU_PM_ME_BOOBS 1

Boobs.

dombrogia 0

Call me a caveman but that can’t be good for reproductive health. I’m attracted to good genes and health. Fake tiddies don’t reflect that

mallykv -9

Good fa YOU🤑

mablegrable 1797

Skinny dudes with no body hair. Now I prefer chubby hairy guys. Didn’t see that coming.

Edit: oh, just noticed this is Ask Men. THATS why there’s so many comments about women...

Edit: oh shit, just noticed this is Ask Men. THATS why there’s so many comments about women...

Edit: oh shit, just noticed this is Ask Men. THATS why there’s so many comments about women.

RunnyBabbitRoy 693

RIP Inbox

Awkawardsizzle 175

Chubby hairy dude here...so uh hey 👋🏻

AssassiNerd 17

Hi 😁😏

Awkawardsizzle 23

I don’t know what to do with my hands 🤲🏻

AssassiNerd 8

👈😎👉

maggotmolly 7

👉🏼ZOOP👉🏼

Nieben 12

Match made in Reddit.

crybannanna 9

She didn’t say she liked ugly too, so settle down.

cletusvanderbilt 7

I’m hairier than this guy.

eapei 69

I'm over here 😁

izvin 64

Yes! I don't know when I went from liking small-framed skinny guys with little body hair to burly looking guys with chest hair and some extra weight. I feel like I'm in not minority of girls where I live and am really sick of the shed chest Ken doll look.

CantWard 52

Chubby Chris Pratt? Oh yeaaaaaa 😏

Snoochey 44

Lucky for you we are plentiful! Hahah

Pal1_1 19

As a skinny dude with no body hair, I am sad.

tooflyandshy94 16

You peaked in highscool apparently. Hope you lived up to it.

doses_of_mimosas 8

The last 3 guys I dates, all older than 27 are skinny with very little hair. One of them can only grow a neck beard and the other 2 can only grow patchy beards.

I used to like those skinny damaged artsy band guys who smoked and had attitude. Then I met my husband who’s muscular and did manual labor is outgoing and funny and likes cutting the grass and being a family guy. He likes country music too. And at 23 I was trying to decide if that was a deal breaker. I was pretty much obsessed with him tho so we’ve been married 14 years now

fafa_flunky 1519

Very revealing clothing. Now I think a relatively modestly-dressed woman who's wearing something that accentuates her figure but leaves something to the imagination is much, much sexier.

TheDurand90 332

I love a girl in uniform. Like one you know from looking at them. They look beautiful in some terrible clothes and you just know.

Benedetto- 52

Nurses in their overalls. If you see a nurse in overalls and they look attractive then she is very attractive. Like the overalls aren't sexual in any way. I know it's like a common fetish but it's not that. They don't look sexy. They don't have tight clothes that shows off their figure. It's just bland, unsexy, overalls. But my god, if you can pull off wearing that I can't help but think about what they are like in something a little sexier

BigDSuleiman 52

Do you mean scrubs? I've never heard them called overalls and my mother and sister are nurses.

Benedetto- 66

Yeah, I'm just retarded

TheMolecularChef 22

Fucking sweater dresses man.

Peribangbang 18

When it comes to people that fall into the dating category I've alwayd been shut off by overly revealing clothing. I've never been able to pinpoint my reasoning however.

HearTheEkko 7

Agree. Not a big fan of revealing clothing. Especially if they use that kind of clothes very frequently.

808natsu 4

Bless your soul

thegeckomaster 4

This is so true. Modest is hottest

Lucy_fur_ 3

Boo

cheeksarelikepeaches 1383

General airheadedness/ditziness. Loved it in high school. Learned to hate it in college.

Kataphractoi 404

This is my brother's girlfriend. Sweet girl, but damn is she airheaded.

DaughterEarth 19

This is my MIL and sometimes I'm so confused about how you get to 60 without maturing. Then I see everyone around her laughing and aww-ing about her behavior and it makes more sense.

Tatnatnat 367

Always hated it. Started hating it really hard as I got older.

startitrightnow 1246

Narcissists. I used to be captivated by the way they insert themselves in the spotlight and shine. It made me feel boring and inferior. The glitter is gone. Now I can’t stand it. I don’t see the charm anymore, just the vain self centeredness of someone with a desperate need for attention. Trying too hard. Fake. No thanks.

An0th3r0n37003 338

Wow, it's nice to see another opinion of them if even just for a minute. I've usually just hated the bastards

HankeyB 55

Is there honestly anyone who likes a narcissist? Like, after you know how to spot them

LunaBoops 78

I used to glorify narcissistic traits in others cause I felt I was too "soft" and "emotional". Those friends (and partners) did nothing but make me feel less worthy, and I'd try and be good enough for them. Sorta like, if I get this persons approval it really says something about me, because they're so rational. I was raised by abusive narcissistic parents, so that has a lot to do with it. Even after recognising the patterns it took me almost 2 years to not be instantly enamoured with narcissists.

DaughterEarth 61

In my early 20s I was madly in love with a narcissist. That guy described it well. She shone so brightly and it was like the entire world was constantly drawn in to her.

Then she decided she didn't like me, and I learned that vortexes suck everything from you indiscriminately.

WalterBishRedLicrish 15

You sound like John Cusack's character in High Fidelity. I love when he meets up with his ex at her house for a dinner party and all the glitter and charm he used to worship is gone. Now he just sees someone he can't stand anymore.

azraline 12

Truth. Amazing how naive I once was. One day it changed and I started calling people out on their bullshit.

Also known as the vast majority of Zooey Deschanel's characters, Jennifer Lawrence in Silver Linings Playbook, etc.

Onionringsamsquatch 10

“They ALL like The Smiths”

God damn I love this

fzbarbeque 8

Love that video. This one goes a bit further in depth at a similar trope.

TrickyDickFlicks 198

I feel this on soooooo many levels

KalEl-2016 310

I understand 500 days of summer much differently now than I did at 15.

clumpymascara 280

Like how people feel sorry for the guy even tho she never wanted a big serious relationship with him and wasn't who he had built up this dream image (mpdg) of?

SacramentoBrowns 120

He straight up sucks at communicating

yoitsyogirl 95

Man I can relate to Summer in that movie. I had a bf like that. Basically broke up with me because he realized I wasnt a mpdg whos sole purpose in life was to be upbeat and make up for the self confidence he couldn't feel for himself.

caesarfecit 17

Sounds like he gave you a blessing in disguise.

I see this a lot in relationships these days, where people fall for the idea of someone and fall out of love when they're confronted with the reality of someone. And I can't help but feel that intimacy, real intimacy has become a bit of a lost art. Because it's only when you're intimate with someone (emotionally, not physically, in case my meaning wasn't clear) that you see the reality of someone. When you hear their insecurities, their neuroses, their traumas.

To love someone means you have to be able to see both the highest and best version of someone, the reality of them (which often contradicts the ideal version), and help them bridge the gap between the two. After a few years of that, your identity will have changed so dramatically that leaving that other person will become like cutting off a limb.

Contradictions don't exist in reality, but they certainly do exist within people.

AayKay 33

She wasn't a manic pixie dream girl though. That's just how he saw her.

OneGirlFromThatNight 11

That story is my life till this year. 6 months later and I’m standing with some radically altered perspective on how love changes.

violet_anarchy 120

As a woman who often gets put in this category for some reason that's a mystery to me. I have to say this is less about the woman and more about how the man sees the woman. I've even literally said to men...look, I get lumped into mpdg category a lot but you need to realize I'm a real person with real flaws and it hurts being left when things get too real for you so please hear me when I say don't do that!

They nod with starry eyes then a few months later I'm telling them about a work problem or something of that nature and they start to ask me why I'm not fun anymore. Well because crazy person life isn't all about passionate great sex, having spontaneous adventures and giggling in bed at 1am feeding each other chunky monkey. As stated before I'm a real person!

Sorry for the rant a bit but this gets my goat lol

taylor_lee 28

See as a guy that likes to keep it real, the manic pixie fun is a big red flag. Maybe I’m just boring, but when a girl starts talking about work issues or problem that’s when I can relax because they’re secure enough about themselves that they can admit problems and not wear a mask of “fun” at all times. Which creeps me out.

Real recognize real haha

darthanarchist 17

Wow, this really makes me consider some past relationships I've had... I think maybe I've been put a little bit in the mpdg category, i never really considered this as something happening in my relationships or encounters with men. I knew I was "intense" in their eyes, and fun adventurous, hippy, wild blah blah. But I didn't think about that being the only characteristic they see of me, until reality hits. This is something useful for me to analyse future relationships going forward.

KalEl-2016 10

Exactly. This was a phase I was in as a younger man that I grew out of.

violet_anarchy 19

Out of curiosity when you say that what does it mean? Does it mean now you go for quieter and less intense women? I've touched base with old flames of mine and invariably this is what they mean. When I question why they say because these other women are less intense it's easier for them not to fetishize them and to see them as well rounded.

I always tell them the same thing...that's not growth. Growth would be learning to see all women as well rounded people and just because someone made you feel alive they aren't an archetype.

Chronochrome 48

I know several girls who are like this, and now that I'm older, they just annoy the shit out of me. Spontaneity and pretentiousness just piss me off.

KleineSandra 43

Clementine Kruczynski from Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind sums up the whole character type for me, but also makes it so very human. "Too many guys think I'm a concept, or I complete them, or I'm gonna make them alive. But I'm just a fucked-up girl who's lookin' for my own peace of mind; don't assign me yours."

Women who seeks some sort of way out of the mess going on in their own heads seem intriguing at first, and men look for them to save them from their own boring lives or inspire them. But then as they get to know her find someone who's desperately seeking distraction from problems she refuses to share. Ending up sucking life instead of spreading it.

violet_anarchy 18

Clementine was written as the anti mpdg tho. I love that quote.

KleineSandra 7

I know, and that's why I love her.

violet_anarchy 35

I feel like people don't really get the idea behind the mpdg concept. It's not about how the woman looks, acts like or talks. It's about the mindset of the man dating her.

In a previous comment I mentioned how I get put in this category but other than the fact I'm insanely physically affectionate and am spontaneous there's nothing mpdg about me. And even those traits are suspect as being mpdg-ish in my mind. I've even literally had this conversation with men about how to not label me this way but then they end up doing it.

For a while I blamed myself and tried to figure out what I could do to change it. Then on a movie night in I rewatched this movie and I had an epiphany. It's about the view the man has of the woman. It isn't about what the woman is doing.

So I love her too.

KleineSandra 15

My last ex boyfriend put me in that box too. I'd fix him, I'd bring color and love into his life. I was his bubbly ray of sunshine, and he was my grumpy, yet cuddly cat. I embraced it, wanted to save him. I watched ESotSM with him, and he didn't get it. Didn't get what kind of reason Clem could have had to get him erased, didn't get the quote. I didn't think much of it at the time, but it just rings true now.

BPence89 24

Tell me about it. I know from experience that actually having one in your life fucking sucks.

Brisingr097 15

I am 21 and dating one right now. Can agree that I find her attractive AF

brokedman45 13

Manic Pixie Dream mentally undeveloped girls

totally_jawsome 6

I am grateful that is coming to a close as well.

IKnowYouAreReadingMe 5

It's an affectation rather than something genuine, which is, predominantly, why I'm not inclined towards them. It's an act, which is replicated by first seeing it in movies. The characters behaviour garners praise for being a unique personality, and is somewhat unfettered to conventional rules because they aren't "conventional", no of course, they're unique.

The thing about it is, trying to be an archetype isn't unique as it's been done before, and it isn't genuine, as you are acting as someone else. No matter how believable the performance, it'll still always be a performance.

Manic pixie dream girls may like the imaginative, artsy characteristics of the role, perhaps because they share those traits, but it seems like to me that the main reason as to why they assume the part is for the reception. Idealized in movies, adored by fans, it then makes sense, reasonably so of course, that they may want to emulate what's perceived as wondrous and rare, especially if they aren't familiar yet with their own identities, in order to receive the same adoration from friends, family and even themselves.

Benign phase, a stepping stone, in which they learn to differentiate promoted attributes in society from their own disposition.

AngelCrawford

I disagree. I think the manic pixie dream girl is a myth that dudes made up about their crushes while only seeing the manic side of someone with bipolar disorder. Yeah, she’s super fun and spontaneous! -right now, at this indie bookstore with her lizard on a leash. You’re gonna have a great time for the first part of the relationship, but once the depression and impulse control find her not getting out of bed, getting evicted, and sleeping with your best friend, that novelty is gonna wear right off.

NLH1234 5

Thanks for putting the name to the person I was thinking of.

asimplescribe 3

Constant chaos does get get tiresome.

cdj4711 769

Wild "party" girls. I used to love all that craziness and everything that went with it. Now I want to be in bed by 10 and love silence

tommycahil1995 7

You seem fun

cdj4711 17

I used to be. Kids and stress and my mundane existence have sucked all the fun out of me

when_i_die 2

I wanna say something encouraging but that's all I see for my future as well...

bot_bot_bot 5

Being in bed by ten is the best! Read a bit, get cozy and cuddle with my woman. What's not to love? Then wake up refreshed the next day. So much better than drug taking party me who'd sometimes only sleep 3 or 4 hours a night. I think I was mostly search for happiness back then, even though most of it was fun. But now I've found it. :-)

cmcjacob

You posted this at 1am don't lie

yahIDGAF 694

Girls that love the attention with half naked pictures all over social media every chance they get. Like yeah I'll look, but it's a relationship turnoff for sure.

WheresBaeTho 619

“Like yeah I’ll look” Epic.

tcrpgfan 30

In that case it's clearly 'Why buy the cow when ya can get the milk for free.

noyogapants 17

Tbf I'm a straight female and I'll look too.

asimplescribe 21

They often bitch and moan about their shitty relationships. I guess they don't understand they are attracting the use you for sex/parade you around like a trophy crowd and scaring off the settle down/commitment crowd.

Blackrain1299 9

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BEER

When i come for the beer and realize that the advertisement was intentionally misleading im out.

liminoid_lion 13

This was my ex-girlfriend to a tee. She posted pictures of herself on Facebook that we’re really revealing. And on Instagram, they were even more revealing. I actually didn’t mind that aspect to much, I kind of liked it. I’m talking about wearing a straight up thong to the beach and posting it on Facebook. However, all the other male attention she got from it eventually started to eat road my trust in her. Now that we are broken up, she is posting pictures on Instagram of her completely naked with her nipples covered up with little digital flowers. It’s kind of sad. She was really fucking hard though.

40+ year old man now. I find heavier women to be more attractive than thinner women. I also am attracted to attitude much more than appearances.

Much rather be with a 6 in the looks dept. who is fun and eager than a 9-10 in the looks dept. who is just phoning it in.

Edit: Fuck Chris Hansen.

Much rather be with a 6 who is fun and eager than a 9-10 who is just phoning it in.

kerrlybill 319

While I haven't acquired a taste for heavier women I do share some of the same sentiment you do. During my college years, partying lots, I quickly learned it's much more fun to bang a 7.5 who wants to fuck you versus a 9 who wants you to fuck her.

While I haven't acquired a taste for heavier women I do share some of the same sentiment you do. During my college years, partying lots, I quickly learned it's much more fun to bang a 7.5 who wants to fuck you versus and 9 who wants you to fuck her.

2b1uJ4Y2furious 81

for a youngblood like me, can you unpack this a bit

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much more fun to bang a 7.5 who wants to fuck you versus and 9 who wants you to fuck her.

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xHymn 101

They’re talking about a woman’s interest in relation to her ‘outta 10’ ratio.

7.5/10 > 9/10 in looks if the 7.5 is very interested in banging you as opposed to a 9/10 emotionless meh.

Heisenbread77 76

That's only 1.5 points though. I would 10/10 go for the more interesting woman. A 7.5 is still damn attractive.

xHymn 37

Well, we try not to shoot for 5’s son. I aim for at least 7s

Well, we try not to shoot for 5’s son. I aim for at least C’s, I’m not a confident man.

Edit: a C being a 7.5ish

DerthOFdata 28

C is average.

5 is average out of 10.

xHymn 9

I didn’t mean those scales were that linear. I meant American grading scale, which a 75% is a C last I checked, roughly 7.5/10 is 75%.

They’re all superficial numbers anyhow.

DerthOFdata 14

A 5 is "average" on the looks scale. Just because you conflated two unrelated grading systems doesn't change that.

Merl-Haggard 8

I'll take 3 ,3's over a 10 any day

JonSatire 3

It's silly as shit, but I am 100% on your side here. It's a dumb pet peeve when the school system of grading gets overlaid over the 1-10 scale. People don't seem to realize that 7 being average skews the scale horribly and ruins the entire point of using that scale. 4-6 are the varying levels of average (with below and above giving flex room), 7 is good, 8 is really good, 9 is great, and 10 is fuckin' bonkers.

But I kinda could understand skewing girls' numbers high.

xHymn 2

My bad dude, I’ll change it.

Didn’t realize I was gonna be attacked by the math knights on askmen over how hot we rate women 🤷🏼‍♂️

KMelkein

On 4-10 scale, 5 is one point above failed. So 4 is a face only mama would love..and even she'll put a paperbag over her head before giving a good night's kiss..

I mean I bet you’re getting attractive girls but objectively on the attractiveness scale no

mallozzin 1

In my case it's the 6's. However, that's not a 6 for me, just what I've learned is considered a 6 by the majority.

viper2369 73

May or may not be right, but having sex with someone because you want to please them, rather than treating it like “I’m gonna get mine”, is way more enjoyable IMO.

This concept is a 2-way street.

Floodman11 69

Enthusiasm goes a long way in enjoying sex. It's way more awesome to be with someone who's interested and enthusiastic about making sex something you do with each other, instead of someone (who might be more attractive) who makes sex something you do to them.

GinoMan2440 15

My wife's appearances would not be judged by others as very high. But I married her not because she was the most stunningly beautiful woman in everyone else's estimation, but because she completes me, she loves me, she takes care of me and our soon to arrive baby, she respects me, she is responsive and giving as a lover, and her face fills me with joy. Looks matter way less than loyalty and self-giving sexuality, she doesn't just want me to fuck her, she wants to make love to me.

ProDistractor 0

Agreed. I’m late 20s and I think I’d still prefer the latter... maybe that’s my lack of experience and human connection showing.

dombrogia 2

I am in awe of your wisdom.

Trowawaycausebanned4 1

😭

Omnilatent 145

I also am attracted to attitude much more than appearances.

Same. One day I noticed everyone has beautiful parts of their bodys and everyone more or less looks the same. But attitude? There's much bigger differences there

jay76 33

Yeah, it's the rarity of a good attitude that makes it a standout feature.

WhatISayMightBeALie 78

Much rather be with a 6 who is fun and eager than a 9-10 who is just phoning it in.

dammit are we not doing phrasing anymore

Commando0861 36

Yeah all the 9-10 year olds have cells phones these days.

Nuttin_Up 7

Are we talking about Sophia Loren heavy or Mama Cass heavy?

Are talking about Sophia Loren heavy or Mama Cass heavy?

Impossiblerex2 1

Heavier, not heavy.

Loren not Cass.

BillyBones8 5

Felt this way since my mid 20s. Complete opposite from my teens.

marrymeodell 5

I’ve noticed that as well. Older men generally don’t care about a little extra weight.

sorryluckchuck 1

Same.. I told my wife to put a little meat on her bones. she complied and we're both happier :) Agree about the attitude as well..

AlphaWeaboo -9

Much rather be with a 6 who is fun and eager than a 9-10 who is just phoning it in.

I'm a female on this threat reading and you wouldn't believe how hard it is to find a partner who doesn't drink. Everyone my age, men and women included love to drink. I hate it. Messes with my anxiety meds like crazy. Its nice to know that maybe when I get older I will find a guy who doesnt feel the need to get drunk every fucking weekend. And be okay with my non-drinking status.

allgreentome 18

There’s a big difference between social drinking and drinking to get drunk. Be careful singling guys into a category just because they have a beer or a drink in their hand.

IndecisiveAxiom 5

I like a few beers here and there, but rarely do I intend to reach a state one could reasonably call drunk. You're gonna want to look for someone with nerd-like tendencies; they seem to be the ones who abstain from drugs/alcohol, IMO.

AmberStar91 28

I struggle to stand friendships like this too. I like getting drunk once in a blue moon and I don't mind that, but there are so many people who just cannot have a social interaction without getting absolutely hammered over the course of the evening.

They show off how they can drink 4 bottles of red wine and still be ok. That's not a skill, that's a tolerance! Ease off the booze man!!

_1st_ 23

But in Soviet Australia, 18 is that age.

playnbagpipesonatank 589

Being extremely sarcastic. It got difficult to even have actual conversations

Biomechanicsgirl 176

But you can be sarcastic for fun and switch to a more serious mode when the time comes. Then it's just that the person has communication problems in general.

smallest_ellie 42

Same goes for people who're jokesters. Even the ones who are actually hilarious. Some of them just can't communicate in any other way and it's so frustrating.

Carbon_FWB 19

THATS WHAT SHE SA-

ok I see it now, yeah.

Grumpy_And_Old 573 S

I'm 53, for reference.

Big, perky tits. Gimme some saggy 32C's any day.

18 year old girls. Nope, that feels like pedophilia now. My oldest kids are in their 20's.

In the opposite direction: Butts. I love butts now. I was never into butts, and I thought anal sex was fucking gross. Now I eat ass like a Chinese tourist at a crab leg buffet.

Compact athletic booty. I used to think i was weird for liking plump booties when I was in highschool and “forced” myself to find compact asses attractive. I’m so happy big booties are thirsted after now and I can finally lust freely for da booty

thisishumerus 118

When we watch movies and stuff, I'll comment on how an actress is really pretty and bless his heart, my husband will say "really? Ew. She has no butt." Its equal parts his type (he likes big butts too) and him trying to preserve my feelings haha

He did admit Taylor Swift is really "cute."

sesame_snapss 189

I still don't understand the attraction for Taylor Swift. She is the opposite of cute, in fact she looks quite evil to me lol

thisishumerus 121

I think it's her legs, they're like 3 miles long

I-Am-Indifferent 65

They make it easier to hunt her prey.

Kyllakyle 4

Those pins. Knock you off your own feet.

MrsRobertshaw 18

I think so to. That pinched face I think. No softness to it.

Blamblow69times 11

Shes not athletic tho, just skinny white girl

rtjl86 8

Like a wasp

SolarSailor46

I agree. I don’t find her attractive at all.

Fapper_Keeper 20

He did admit Taylor Swift is really "cute."

so are Pomeranians, 8oz cans of soda, and babies.

saying a woman is 'cute' isnt much of a compliment lol

Kanbaru-Fan 30

Complete opposite for me. Since i started working out/climbing six pack and visible biceps are an instant turn on. Used to be mostly into the thicc type a few years ago

seraphine288 9

Athletic booties are nowhere near "small" or "compact".

Fapper_Keeper 6

have you visited the midwest? because you should. its like a secret treasure trove of pawg's

littlestminish 2

I blame the Cheese and the Minneapolis State Fair.

Guardianofthe8thhole 3

Lmao...FAVORITE answer

Merl-Haggard 545

Slutty clothes. Give me something to work with. The women I see now who look less likely to get naked are the ones I want to see naked.

thezac2613 261

One word: Nuns!

MagicBeanGuy 15

Ohhhh man, you just reminded me of the time I went to Bangladesh and met this hijabi girl. In public she was all proper and fully covered up (except her face), but in private, well, it was fantastic

Merl-Haggard 13

Exactly and business women. When they chant "lock her up" I get turned on. Haha

MintyFreshMetagross 8

I too love Hilldog

khaki53 4

But why

TheDOPDeity 525

I'd be lying if I said I hadn't found crazy girls stupidly attractive when I was young.

Now, after having been with too many, that phase is long gone.

MrDobolina12 27

Crazy girls are the best in bed, but they're also the most likely to bite your dick off.

neuk_mijn_oogkas 15

It seems like in many cultures there's no room for "crazy" without violent. My native language has a very good phrase for it which sort of translates to "pleasantly deranged". Tony Stark from the MCU is probably a good example of pleasantly deranged or Jack Sparrow.

Shaken_Vesper 12

I feel the English language is wonderfully creative on one hand, and then on the other hand we only have one real word for "love" and that's "love." No linguistic distinction made between romantic love, love for one's siblings, one's children, one's pets, one's hobbies, etc. Seems like we should have different, if linguistically similar, words for each of those things, but we don't.

neuk_mijn_oogkas 11

My native language in fact has no different word for "friend" and "boyfriend" or "hug" and "cuddle" and there is no real word for "offended" either, but hey there are about 5 different words for "cosy" in it each expressing a slightly different mood.

AedemHonoris 7

You fuck crazy, crazy fucks you

JLD1992 7

Legit got the fridge door slammed on my cock having sex in the kitchen with a crazy. Never again.

eyepeatable 521

Drama.

As a young man, I was subconsciously drawn to women who created conflict and disruption.

Only after several exhausting relationships did I stop and ask myself why all the women I ended up with started out seeming nice, then soon revealed themselves to be disruptive, demanding, and often manipulative. Of course, my choices were the common denominator. I kept mistaking "selfish" for strong and "troubled" for interesting.

I took some time off dating. Got my head in order and the next woman I dated was not like that at all. For the first time, I had a fun relationship with someone who didn't spend all my money, put me down constantly, talk about herself the whole time, create a scene every time she wasn't the center of attention... you get the picture.

Now I can spot the kind of woman I used to be attracted to coming a mile off and I'll walk another mile to avoid her.

Drama.

As a young man, I was subconsciously drawn to women who created conflict and disruption.

Only after several exhausting relationships did I stop and ask myself why all the women I ended up with started out seeming nice, then soon revealed themselves to be disruptive and demanding, and often manipulative.

Of course, the common denominator was me and the choices I was making. I kept mistaking "selfish" for strong and "troubled" for interesting.

Now I can spot the kind of woman I used to be attracted to coming a mile off and I'll walk another mile to avoid her.

DreamsofProphecy 11

Dude I’m currently in this situation with my girlfriend ... sucks . She doesn’t put me down or spend my money but she definitely creates a scene EVERY time she’s not the center of attention.

zeromutt 494

That scene poofy hair thing. Used to think it’s cute now it looks like a coconut

I’m a hair stylist and boy was that era fun! You just took razor to that shit and shredded it. No real rhyme or reason. You just sculpted that shape with a razor. You couldn’t mess up no matter how hard you tried

Edit actually the only way to mess up was not enough razoring to get it to stand up

burnalicious111 12

"Coconut" is fucking hilarious and I'm mad I'm hearing it much too late to get good use out of it

danielsting 9

Also, with black hair they all look like Noel Fielding.

everythangspeachie 7

Wow that was fucking ugly

pieonthedonkey 5

I'm still stick on that. All the women were/are terrible but I'm too attracted to it to quit.

GenKyo 439

There are some interesting answers in here, but after thinking for a good 10 minutes, I can't think of a single thing. Maybe I'm just not old enough.

dombrogia 161

Ok well don’t leave us on a cliff hanger... how old are you?

dam072000 379 S

not enough

nice_disguise 7

*Chris Hansen staring from the dark kitchen *

viper2369 52

I was thinking the same thing. I was never a big party person, so I feel like I just had to wait until they matured enough to be more attractive.

Never been a blonde fan, always a brunette fan.

Never was attracted to skinny women, prefer some shape to them.

Always wanted that person who just likes to hang out. Maybe shoot some pool or ride 4-wheelers. Go to the lake. I’ve partied and been drunk, but never found someone attractive if they had to drink to have a good time.

McNigget 11

Hey maybe that’s a good thing. You know what you want now and hopefully you got it right. It doesn’t have to be an age thing, some people just know.

asimplescribe 3

It's not an everybody thing. This question is not for people like you.

CelebrityMartyr 392

I came to this thread out of pure curiosity. Now I have absolutely no self esteem.

I’m a skinny, punk (ish?) chick with piercings, no tits and dyed hair. Not to mention my height was already a turn off (6’1).

At least I have a sense of humour?

I am going to die alone aren’t I?

TOProMale 716

You'll be fine. Don't use Reddit threads as a basis for your self esteem.

FluffyBlizzard 219

Not to mention my height was already a turn off (6’1).

well some of us men are like 6'4" so thats a turn on for some men.

ydntujsttossme 109

If you two were to have children, they’d be born taller than me! 😂

pseudohim 154

I am going to die alone aren’t I?

No. Don't let anyone here bring you down. When the opposite sex has a space to vent freely, without judgement, it can often be hard to hear. But I'm sure you're a wonderful person who will find love one day - don't give up hope! Hang on in there.

bslankster7583 16

To be fair we all die alone.

Halbertos 13

Not if you lived in Jonestown

KING_CH1M4IRA 74

These are just some people's opinions. It doesn't mean that no one does or would find you attractive.

TBH you sound gorgeous and don't you ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

A girl who can stand her ground in a mosh pit is one of the sexiest most badass things on earth. That and for some reason, even though I'm short, tall girls are the beeeeessssssssst.

MAGICAL_SCHNEK

...don't you ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

I see people with that mentality so often online, and it always makes them seem like horrible, selfish, douchbags...

Seriously, it’s very important to listen to others, even if you don’t agree. I’m not just talking about hairstyles or clothes, it’s about everything in life. Don’t just ignore others because you don’t like what they’re saying.

khaki53 16

Most these comments are guys saying they liked sluts and now they don't like sluts. I really wouldn't worry about this thread too much.

Tatnatnat 14

You’re fine. Big tits isn’t everything. My buddy and I were walking on Clement street years ago and this pretty, tall girl with a dazzling smile was walking towards us smiling and talking to the guy next to her. She had beautiful small breasts. We’re talking don’t need a bra sized. We were both utterly captivated.
“Sorry, forgot what I was talking about.”
“Yep, me too”. We never did pick up the thread of that conversation. She remains one of the most stunning people I’ve ever seen. Mostly because of her presence and attitude.
Tall girls are a huge turn-on for a lot of guys.

SaveTheLadybugs 12

You sound exactly like what I call my SO’s “ideal type,” pieced together through various comments he’s made throughout me knowing him. Double or nothing encouragement: I’m nearly nothing like it. So 1) not only are there people who think you’re hot shit, 2) even if you’re not what someone lists as their “type” they can still find you attractive and want to be with you and love you.

gortwogg 11

Kinda describes my dream girl though, so you got that going for you!

fromnj32 10

Some dude posted "platinum blondes". So, I really don't think we should base our self esteem on this thread. It's just opinions.

CreativeAnswer 7

Probably not, there's likely a guy out there for you

Grumpy_And_Old 7

You're like 10/10 pretty though, you'll be fine.

Unless you've got an absolutely horrible personality. And even then, a lot of dudes will tolerate that for a chick as hot as you.

Not trying to hit on you, you're like my kid's age. Just stating a fact. Your face is top notch.

fappyday 4

Creeped your history. You have a cute cat, just sayin'.

Snoochey 4

I mean, you sound hot to me still and I'm 29.

Moxiecodone 4

You’re 15/16 and I saw your face photo. You will be fine. Life in terms of dating and sex isn’t going to be hard for you. Dive in and embrace your femininity, love your self, and watch what happens.

Actually, i’m STILL into girls that are dark. Lol

Blackrain1299 3

Its okay to die alone. Don’t pretend the success of your entire life is hinged on finding a mate. Most people are shitty anyway so just live YOUR life.

I looked at your pics, relax, you'll be fine. Your height as a girl is also most likely not to ever be a turn-off for any men, the only problem it will cause will be that shorter men will probably not try to approach you as they assume you wouldn't want to be with them anyways, what with the whole women mostly wanting taller guys. Not that this is the case with you, and not that it's the case with all guys, but most guys will not find you being tall as an unattractive thing.

Sun_King97 3

Think of the shittiest person over 30 that you know. They've probably been in multiple relationships and even have been married! You'll be fine.

TheFirstUranium 3

...you'll be fine. According to this thread, you need to be an overweight homebody who doesn't use social media or care about her appearance.

imariaprime 3

Legitimately, the only real offputting thing in this whole description is how negative you sound about yourself. Get that self-esteem back! You sound completely fine.

Konnoke 2

Nah you'll be fine. Plenty of people will still find those attractive :)

PsychologicalAmoeba6 2

like "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo"?

Krazen 2

Just date younger dudes you ole cougar

MetalLava 1

No that's absolutely still in vogue

YMarkY2 -4

Well get rid of the piercings and dyed hair and you'll help your chances.

CelebrityMartyr

Nah

Monbey

Agreed, always depends on the color, if it's sjw type shit, lose it

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CelebrityMartyr

It’s bright red, but I have a normal hair cut, definitely not sjw influenced

PM_ME_YO_DICK_VIDEOS

What is "sjw type shit" in referral to hair dye?

cubanmm

Naaah. You'll be fine.

PalpableMoon 378

Girls acting dumb to be cute.

It’s not cute anymore.

gr8ful123 27

It never was😂

Mackana 14

Agree wholeheartedly on the acting part. That said, a girl in my class way back in high school was genuinely dumb as a rock. But she tried really hard, spent way more of her free time studying than the rest of us and obviously put great effort into learning when in class. Still, she was very dumb and needed lots of help because while she definitely tried her very hardest there was still something lacking.

My point is, that sort of dumb is endearing to me. She couldn't help that she was a bit slower than the rest of us and had trouble piecing one and two together, but she still didn't let that take her down and tried her best to succeed.

But I still agree with you on the acting dumb part, intelligence is sexy so work on that if you got it ladies.

catastic5 6

Agreed its unattractive. I do want to point out that there is enormous unconscious pressure on young women to be this way....ie unitimidating and approachable. Although many girls are not aware of why they do it, is designed to make themselves more available while simultaneously evoking a protective reflex from the people around them. Part of it is genetic programming. The exaggeratedness that is so annoying is the learned (and poorly executed) version of a genetic predisposition to seek help and protection from stronger members of a group.

pizzamergency 376

Perfume/cologne. Used to think it was super sexy. Now I can’t stand it. Probably because pple still put on the same amount as when they were twenty & have no idea how intrusive it is

JeyJeyFrocks_3325 168

I can't imagine why there are so many people who were not taught how to put it on properly, at least as a male. From the day I was 15 and got my first bottle of cologne, my mom taught me that you put a small dab on each of your wrists and a dab on either side of your neck. That's it. You don't need a ton.

pizzamergency 243

Or the Coco Chanel way. Which is spray a mist in front of you & walk thru it. Then get dressed.

Average_Manners 71

This comment. More people need to read it.

Some of us are major league allergic to your perfumes or colognes. A whiff is fine, but if all we can smell is your drenched clothing, we special cases are not going to want to be around you again.

Scratchjackson 57

You may appreciate this... as someone overly sensitive to other people’s cologne/perfume. There was one perfume that always gave me a headache when I smelled it and was always middle aged women wearing it. Finally one day at the grocery store, while the scent was swelling my brain, I nicely walked up to the woman wearing it and asked because I had to know what it was. Fucking “White Diamonds” by Elizabeth Taylor... that was 10 years ago and to this day I can tell the second someone walks into a place wearing it because I get that pain in the corner of my eye close to my nose.... I don’t think it’s even the smell I recognize... but the placement of the pain near my eye that informs me of what smell is wrecking my olfactory. Don’t get me wrong... I love some subtle perfumes/smells. But that white diamonds shit is poison.

Edit: holy crap! I’m shocked to find out I’m not the only person that has these problems with certain smells! Over sensitive smellers of the world UNITE!!

perhippyhaps 21

Thank you!!! I have the same problem with one perfume and never thought to ask directly!

It's always middle aged and older women, and it's a VERY distinct, overpowering, headache/nausea inducing smell. If I'm grocery shopping and a woman is trailing the stink, I vacate the area to let the aisles air out. Even when the odor is barely perceptible it makes me feel sick to my stomach.

One woman I work with reeks of it, and now I'll just ask what she wears for confirmation. I dread the days she's on the schedule.

You are brilliant. Even though we can't scour scents like this off the face of the planet, knowing the name of the enemy helps. This has been a decades long problem for me, and it never occurred to me to just ask wtf they're wearing.

sparkle_bones 15

That makes me curious if the one that bugs you is also white diamonds.

kaoutunu 10

Oh God, this. This should be framed above every perfume counter, and printed in large font on an insert with every bottle.

I love perfume, but some people marinade in it. I do not need to smell your perfume on my groceries a week later, just because you nuked your olfactory senses 40 years ago. I don't want to have to wash the sheets twice every time you stay with me; and frankly if I have to get the duvet dry-cleaned you're staying in a hotel next time. Hurk.

reyuionyts 11

A French woman taught me to only spray the neck twice and that’s it. The wrists lose scent quickly since you wash your hands frequently throughout the day.

tdillard2933 11

I had a guy get into my uber tonight and say, "you might want to roll a window down because I just put on some cologne." The smell filled up the entire car. If you know that you put on so much cologne that a window needs to be rolled down, you should know not to put so much on. Its gross.

catbrannigan 371

I noticed a theme that a lot of men initially attracted to fit/thin girls, are now in later years more attracted to curvey girls. Why is this?

Its just a trend, im mexican and we have always liked thick curvey womem, but now all these famous people are getting surgeries to look like that and now people like it.

egadsby 25

The media part might be a trend, but I don't think the aging part is solely just a trend. I'm Indian, never cared about butts even a little back in high school. I remember seeing twerking vids when I was 16 and I thought it was gross.

I started liking butts in my early 20s, before the whole "thicc" trend really went mainstream. I've asked multiple dudes about this and they've said the same.

Also, for what it's worth, it seems like girls these days have more overtly feminine bodies. I know people are gonna dismiss this as "squats and implants", but I see a lot more tiny waisted frames, and in the 2000s women had a subtler more rectangular torso. It's not really something you can squat or implant your way to, it's structural.

I honestly think this is a case where art imitates life, not the other way around.

KleineSandra 41

It's also something that current day fashion caters to. Good clothes work miracles for the way you perceive someone's body shape. Also many leggings and jeans basically have built-in shapewear that cinches the waist and lifts the bottom. As something that's more evident, it's the main reason many women are into suits, they're constructed to make every man seem broad shouldered with good posture.

Starkpool 14

Did you just put squats and implants into the same sentence?

izvin 4

It's called fat transfers.

ohhitslauraa 148

Child
Bearing
Hips

truckthisfeet 13

Hi Dwight

bunniesplotting 13

When I was in college a woman who thought of herself as my rival (I dated 3 guys she was into but didn't know she was into any of them until she confronted me for "stealing" her crushes) told me I had birthing hips. As an insult. I was so confused. Then she invited the guy I was currently dating to go jet skiing with her as friends. I didn't see her as any sort of threat and we had discussed what he was gonna do if she tried to put a move on him.

When he got back he informed me that he spent the day with her and her entire family, and she introduced him as her boyfriend! He felt so bad and awkward he sort of halfheartedly went along with it then reamed her out on the drive back to the dorms after she tried to kiss him. She angrily confronted ME like I was the problematic psycho and then screamed down the hall about my terrible child bearing hips again as I was trying to disengage and walk away from this banshee. I have an hourglass shape so my guy yelled back that it was better to have a body meant for having sex and making babies than to look like an angry freckled red haired stork (an unkind but fairly accurate comparison, she was very skinny, lacked much of a chin and her nose was on the larger side.)

For some reason, that did the trick and I never had a problem with her again no matter who I dated. I felt bad for her despite her shittiness though, it was clear she was desperate for a boyfriend, and her face when he said that was absolutely brutal.

Milton90 45

Probably because as you grow up sexually, you start to know what you like the most and what you don't care much about. That includes tits and ass, which are pretty hard to find in thin girls, and easy on curvies.

L0sername777 17

Yes. Thin girls feel a little fragile in the hand, and can be somewhat bony in bed. A curvier girl is lovely and soft and bouncy and squishy, with a satisfying heft.

TheOriginal_V1S10N 31

This is me. I used to like 'fit' girls, but honestly they're usually spoiled, and not nearly into me as girls in "worse" shape. Now, I don't care how socially-sexy or promiscuous she is: Is she into ME? And yes, curvy girls/non-fit girls are far more appreciative of genuine attention, and way less draining to talk to...

~

Honestly, for most guys I think it's media:

Your girl has to have DD tits.
GF must have a tiny waist.
Look pretty
Etc.

The fashion arena determines models should be exclusive, and guys should seek out that certain Lisa Cheerleader.

~

It happens with gals too:

Your guy has to be 6 feet tall.
BF must make six figures.
Look handsome
Etc.

The media says all guys should be 10 feet tall with a 24 inch cocks. You need to date Thad Football.

None of those media depictions are a reflection of the reality for most people. Once people realize that, they change their tastes accordingly? I did, and am much happier. I love juicy girls now. But really personality always wins. Looks are a teenager's game.

Eats_Beef_Steak 10

Thad Football

my go-to was always Chad Pecingtins, but I like that too.

Gracefulchemist 23

Woman here: I went through a similar change in my attraction to men. Maybe it is something in human nature, but I think some of it is learning to deifferentiate what society/media tells you is attractive vs what you actually like, and learning the difference between visually appealing and actual attraction. I look at, say, Chris Hemsworth and definitely find him visually pleasing, but I also think my husband (a chubby, hairy bearded guy) is sexy.

MeowAndLater 17

Personally there’s usually less surprises with a thin girl, and after a few relationships novelty becomes interesting. Thickness provides more curves to play with and explore. Also I tend to be more shallow with faces than bodies, and there’s something kinda endearing about a pretty girl with some curves.

samema 13

Bc t h i c c

WritesCrapForStrap 10

For me at least, I stopped caring so much about how women's bodies look and much more about the person.

I wouldn't have given a chubby girl (for instance) a chance say 10 years ago, but over time what I'm looking for has changed apparently.

So I still like them skinny and short and blonde, but shit it's way more of a turn on to meet a funny woman who wants to hang out and take the piss out of shit TV.

I think teenage boys might be shallow.

ReallySickOfArguing 365

Goth chicks. I was really into them back in high school in the 90s, but all the sad sack drama got old. ... Emotional stability in a partner took priority around when I turned 25 and after several loony girlfriends.

samuraizuk 142

THIS. Emotional stability... I think I was in my thirties before I even discovered it was possible. For myself too that is.

tcrpgfan 8

Perky goths are fun, though.

-Ash21- 9

This is the third time I've seen this now. I thought everyone was only into the look? For me that's how it was growing up and that's how it still is. I loved the black, the piercings, tattoos and highlights or hair dyes. I never wanted someone who was legitimately depressed all the time though. Did everyone else want the personality with it?

anto_pty 262

Emo girls with problems, like i tried to be someone who took care of them and have bonding moments and grow together emotionally, financially and academically.

Now i understand that if you're too naive they can bring you down with them.

Kibler_n_Bits 13

I relate wholeheartedly.

kuhzoo 8

grow together emotionally, financially and academically.

That sounds awesome ... as long as both of you are growing. I fear that too often that's not the case.

Nuttin_Up 245

Being ditsy. It was cute at first then it became fucking annoying.

MrsRobertshaw 36

I love my friend to pieces but lord I don’t know how her husband does it. This chick just constantly flakes out on important stuff. Big trip planned for over a year, doesn’t check the passport till the night before the flight. New iPhone through the washing machine. Shuts the garage door on the new car. This is all within the last 8wks.

themoonmonkey 229

I wouldn't say I no longer find things attractive, more that I find more things attractive. Like, I'm at the point where I have friends my age who I find attractive but also find their dads super hot too (something I would not of felt a few years ago).

GundalfNP 124

Sorry for this, but would not have*

MayorMoonbeam 15

Wouldnt’ve

Just to make your head explode

Magikarp_13 39

*Wouldn't've

If you wish to harness the might of the double contraction, get every apostrophe right, lest you lose control.

MayorMoonbeam 12

I love you

themoonmonkey -46

This is informal speech and the rules of such apply here,

sunkenspoon 47

In that case it would have been "wouldn't've." No one is trying to be a jerk, it's kinda like telling someone they have spinach in their teeth. Tell 'em so they can fix it.

themoonmonkey -35

The point of language is to be understood. Did you understand exactly what I meant? Most likely. Is reddit become (all of a sudden) a collegiate, legal, or medical, or scientific document where those things matter? Nope.

Fonethree 28

Hey everybody, look at this nerd trying to help people be more correct!

That's what you sound like.

themoonmonkey -11

Ah, yes. That was precisely my point and not a gross misrepresentation of it. Thanks.

Fonethree 14

I think you'll be happier, overall, if you learn to accept corrections and criticisms and roll with them. Just my unsolicited 2 cents.

themoonmonkey -2

I don't mind getting corrected or criticised in places where it is important.

Imagine being out with friends and you say something that is within common speech but isn't considered proper or formal, and instead of following you up they correct you. You wouldn't just go "oh, thanks :)" and if you say you would I doubt your honesty. You'd probably side-eye them.

Now, if it was a paper in which you were trying to get proof read? Different story. Reddit isn't a paper which I'm trying to get proof read, it's a place where I put in my "unsolicited two cents."

TooSmart4You

Yeah, but it's not like it took time of you to read.
It's seriously a just free tip and you're just being a mean to this guy.

KenxieCuteBunny 14

Dude, just learn to spell and get over it.

themoonmonkey -3

That was a grammar issue, but ok.

catalina-out 3

It's a spelling issue. Instead of "would not've" they said "would not of" because it sounds the same, and they're just not aware that it's incorrect.

"I crossed the rode" is incorrect because "rode" is spelled wrong. It's a spelling error. "Not've" is spelled wrong. It's a spelling error.

ManateeJamboree 14

You misspelled improper*

BlueberryWhisky 227

Women. I am gay and loving it!

cpatrick1983 225

Un-adventurous people. I'm more attracted to someone who's able to have fun and sees humor in unlikely places. That's something I never would have considered before my 30s.

Boring personalities. I'm more attracted to someone who's able to have fun and sees humor in unlikely places. That's something I never would have considered before my 30s.

Krazen 174

Wait, as a young person you actively sought out chicks with boring personalities??!

skaliton 11

I do know a guy like this. He is in his mid 20's (I think 25 right now) and despite going to law school, despite having a wealth of travel experience (his family is well off), and a rather unique life as a whole (I don't want to tell his personal story here)

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he is more interested in a girl who will talk about british politics (we aren't in the UK, nor is it even remotely relevant to our lives) or honestly do nothing, than a girl who has any character. . . he basically wants to be an NPC and date an NPC

ihaveuglytoes 15

I think a girl who likes to talk about another country's politics is not at all boring. But then, a girl who likes to talk about makeup isn't boring either. I think the only boring people are those who don't like anything, but that's just me

Honestly nothing has changed 50-60 has always been my range. I have been jerking off to middle age women my whole life.

dysrhythmic 269

50-60 is a bit more than middle-aged to me but whatever. You do you.

TraditionalHotel 109

bich you dont know the future, i bet these older ladies are gonna BLAST up to age 120 with our future science and u/Pepiopi1981 will still be jerking it to em

Stormkveld 13

That ain't middle age dawg that's someone grandma

YahMahn25 6

Logs IP and runs it through database

everythangspeachie 204

"Bad bitches"

eat_me_now 38

I love bad bitches that's my fuckin problem

diarrhea_syndrome 9

I’m the complete opposite. I used to want the “girl next door” good girl. Now I want the bad girl. I know there’s no hope for a relationship with bad bitches but that poon is so good.

asian_boywonder 172

I lived in a Hispanic neighborhood and I grew up really into chola looking girls with thin eye brows and dark lipstick. I'm an asian.

MsJenX 24

So, you’re not into cholas with thin eyebrows anymore?

Yesm3can 18

chola looking girls with thin eye brows

Had to google. Those are indeed some thin eyebrows.

l00pee 12

I still think they're hot, but they are so much trouble. It will end horribly. Always.

Minds_Sash 160

I used to be attracted to girls with psychological problems or problems in the family. Not drama queens or such, but girls with real problems. I was attracted to the thought of me saving her and her getting attached to me because of that. That thought gave me safety and comfort.

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I know today that I had a skewed perspective on love and relationships and I am gladly over it.

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Oh, also, I am not avoiding anybody in need of help and it is not a red flag for me, I am just not sexually/romantically attracted to it anymore!

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Also, I really liked the wallflower/good-girl-next-door type... Today, not so much. =)

theBMFdad 9

Same. “Saving” people who won’t help themselves is draining.

Budcoffee 145

Being that bad boy kid that skipped class, didn't do him hw cuz I was "too cool" to be bothered with it.

As an adult, that shit is just stupid and immature. It really held me back a bit and i hated it.

As an adult, that shit is just stupid and immature. It really helde back a bit and o hated it.

YahMahn25 15

Had tons of these dudes in classes with me growing up. They were very popular and became very unsuccessful adults. Hope your outcome was different.

Budcoffee 15

I can honestly say I'm in an ok spot. I'm sure I would have been better off if I put effort in school and probably have gotten further in life. But I'm also not flipping burgers and struggling to make ends meet, or stressing out over late rent and bills. I managed to get myself in a comfy position with a lot of hard work and effort.
But I really wished I would have paid attention in school. So whomever is reading this and your still in school, get your shit together. Adulthood is much smoother when you have all the right doors open and opportunities available. Life sucks when you're limited.

Blackrain1299 1

I didn’t do my homework in math for 3 years. I just hated math. Fuck you algebra, geometry, and trig. I started doing my homework in precalc and calc because it actually affected my grade.

BitingInsects 140

That stripper look, or these days every hot girl on Instagram. Now I really don't like the "perfect" look as IMO it shows a lot of insecurity at the surface and usually comes with baggage. Plus they all look like different variations of Kylie Jenner now.

Mrknowitall666 15

As you get older still, you'll realize everyone comes with baggage, since experience (good and bad) comes with life.

The narcissism I can do without

mklmnde1975 118

I was married 20 years when my husband asked for a divorce. Thought oh man, I'm sunk. Was surprised and oh so pleased to find that my enthusiasm and extra curves were pretty desirable over all.

echobox_rex 13

Good for you. 20 years is a long time and you can really go through an identity crisis when you are no longer part of an "us". I'm glad to hear that you are being appreciated.

wgc123 10

Excellent. As an about to be single guy in a similar age group, are you a hot single in my area that wants to meet me? But seriously, it’s always good to hear when things work out better than you fear.

jldude84 110

Shit I can't think of anything...maybe 34 years isn't enough life experience yet lol. Or my standards were low as shit to begin with.

Kiwispam84 12

Or maybe our standards just haven't changed that much (I'm also 34, and feeling the same).

Lazaross24 36

Now kiss

McNigget 7

Or maybe you knew what you wanted when you were you g and you’re still good with that. And that’s a good thing.

BeMySquishy27 104

I always thought shorter girls were so hot when I was a teenager. Would even turn down taller girls. Also I’ve gotten older, I’ve found that I don’t actually mind what height someone is. Short is still cute, but if you are significantly taller than me, suddenly I become the cute one and I just melt.
Beyond that, submissiveness. I used to think girls should rely on me and I should be the big man. Now, I find that relying on me is only good if it’s needed in forms of emotional support, or when they are sick. Meanwhile, I hard working, successful, and independent woman, is the hottest fucking thing!

Obestity 102

I used to like girls, but now I like women

20cansofSpam 91

Clingy women.

samema 10

You're right but I feel like there's a story, spill iiiit

TWWfanboy 90

Seeing 18 year old girls naked on the Internet.

It’s not that they stopped being attractive so much as now, as a father, I just wonder what their parents did that made their daughter crave that kind of validation, and how I can raise my children to not need to debase themselves in such a fashion. Which naturally is the opposite of being turned on.

Not that I’m judging sex workers or exhibitionists. I just don’t my children to go down that road.

Ciertocarentin 14

In general, I don't think it's what their father did or didn't do, it's the affect of Hollywood, BarbieDoll culture and the internet more than anything.

cubiclejockey 81

Successful women who are successful on their own. When you’re young it’s rare that you didn’t inherit success.

That's partly me changing, but more so I think the ubiquity. In 1980, a nose-ring meant one was daring, and that's no longer remotely the case.

Nuttin_Up 28

Tongue piercings... Ugh. I'm glad that fad has run its course.

garbagepunks 11

I completely agree. A nose ring used to be edgy but today it’s a basic fuckgirl thing

dudeleburger 3

Yep. The worst part is all bar one of y friends who got nose piercings turned into exactly that- fuckgirls.

KingJonStarkgeryan1 2

Fuck, it's almost as common as loving Disney for girls nowadays. Which sucks for me since nose rings are a huge turn off for me.

killroy1971 72

Women who want to go out every night
Women with high sex drives

Honestly, I need my rest!

Asylumsix 9

and then you do take a rest and they think you're cheating on them....

AngryPolishManlet 71

Being older than me.

HJuanZeeJuan 39

Ooooh you like them younger chicks? Wait no

CuteCuteJames 68

Recklessness.

It's the Sirius Black/James Potter effect: it's all cool and rad and hot when you're 13, but it turns out, mature me isn't attracted to jackasses.

texas-is-heaven 68

Big boobs, party girls, sluts

ChunkyLoadChad 35

Never wife up a party girl

EndTimesRadio 23

Under no circumstances will I ever wife up a party girl.

texas-is-heaven 2

Exactly

sesame_snapss 2

Can you define 'party girl'? Because I have some married friends and they party quite often (husbands included). Are you supposed to become boring once you get married?

eat_me_now 2

What about a retired party girl? Can you wife those?

Bron_Yr_Aur21 62

Girls that like to party.

nrthrnbr 61

Drunk women. I found it really funny, almost cute in my 20's. Now it's just sad to me

Freevoulous 59

Inexperienced virgins.

Fuck, that, miss me with that shit now. I want mega Sluts with PHD in Cockology

pinpinbo 58

I used to like a plain jane, girl next door, no makeup beauty.

But now I like a tasteful makeup and sexy outfits.

Peribangbang 31

I dont think I'll ever stop liking girls without makeup or a small amount tbh. I've always just found it more attractive for some reason.

Jealous1988 57

Myself

sgfwong 54

Girls that completely shave the lower region. I used to think it was hot when it wasn’t every girl... now I am the opposite.

smallest_ellie 72

I used to shave it all off and now I just... can't be fucking bothered, man. I'll keep everything nice, clean and trimmed - you want to be presentable after all - but no fucking way am I going to, literally, bend over backwards to find every little strand of hair or spend money on brazilians.

It took me a while to accept myself un-shaved. I faked my way through it the first couple of times I was with a new partner, like, "yep I totally don't care that you see me like this", and now I just... honestly don't care.

P. S. It's a free world and I'd never rag on a woman who prefers clean shaven/waxed!

smushedtoast 35

Oh girl I’m with you on this one. You know what’s great? Sex without razor burn.

TraditionalHotel 29

woman here: i have red pubes and have never understood the pube aversion that so many people have. my pubes are fire (no pun), brown pubes look great, too. I LOVE PUBES.

coolgenner 49

Bleach blonde hair.

garbagepunks -21

This has always been nasty 🤢 glad to hear you grew out of it! What’s your preference now, if i May ask?

coolgenner 6

Brunettes funny enough. I always loved blondes, but always dated brunettes. Now married to one.

bulbasaur0427 49

Boobs. I used to like big boobs, now Im only attracted to flat chested women.

samema 38

Small tits deserve love too

Buttism 16

Why not both, I like petite girls as much as I like curvy women, now a petite girl with a killer ass is a combination made in heaven.

samema 36

As long as I like the girl her body is gonna be my absolute favorite

BigChiefW1 46

Used to love clean shaved vags. After I got a daughter, its a major turn off.
Now I like them as hairy as possible.

Caira_Ru 34

Sascrotch?

troweigh 38

Crazy. In a lot of ways.

I used to love wild girls. I used to love girls with problems because I wanted to save them.

Crazy is fucked up and exhausting. I’m all for being there for someone, but sometimes it’s completely draining being with someone with anxiety and depression, particularly when they aren’t great at communicating. You have to do everything sometimes because they have panic attacks. Sometimes doing everything gives them a panic attack, and a downer moment, because they feel like they aren’t doing enough, and that hurts their self-worth. Sometimes everything will be great, and you’ll lay down for bed and the crying starts, and before you know it, you’ve got two hours before your alarm is supposed to go off and she’s finally asleep, and you feel terrible and don’t sleep. Sometimes you’ll get a weekend where you do nothing but work through their emotions. Sometimes every weekend is like that. Sometimes they bite off more than they can chew and it leads to them getting nothing done at all because they feel overwhelmed by everything.

Note: don’t leave someone because they have mental health issues, but know what you’re really getting yourself into if you date someone with mental health issues. Sometimes you give your all and more, and it’s never enough.

UsedRefrigerator3 37

Platinum blonde hair girls.

iamarobotindeed 38

I JUST HOPE SO MUCH I STOP LIKING THEM. THIS HAS GIVEN ME A HOPE, THANK YOU.

Eats_Beef_Steak 5

you'll never stop liking them. He was just weak. Platinum blonde or midnight black hair only. No compromise.

_Spanish_Inquistion 37

I don't think long hair is unattractive, but I did develop a thing for girls with short hair.

kanyeawilo 35

Feisty, fire headed "tough girls".

Now I just want that peace loving empath

zenthrowaway17 35

Nothing has become unattractive.

But lots of extra things have become attractive.

rice_bledsoe 28

Basic white girls

I dated one and realized that a lot of them tend to view me as “exotic” or like im from another world. Not only that, once you’ve dated one basic white girl, you’ve dated them all.

ThatDrunkenScot 16

It's horrible too, because every basic white girl will try to convince you that they aren't a basic white chick because they do (thing they think is unique but every other basic white chick does).

Kill me.

dysrhythmic 2

Does basic mean average?

Chronochrome 27

Airheads. Used to be cute but now they just frustrate me. They're just awful to talk to in every way and I didn't realize it when I was younger because I was stupid too.

Johnnyash 26

Ooo... Mum bods. A ladies body that has been through child birth is just beautiful. Stretch marks... A sag to the boobs.... Its fucking gloriously sexy

Edit: And curves! Hips, tits and thighs.... Fucking yes

Froobyxcube 9

Oh man, I can't help but look at my mum bod and wonder why anyone would be attracted to me once they've got me naked. It's weird!

Do guys really find it attractive? Is it the same as me being attracted to dad bod?

theoatmealchef 25

My ex wife.

DrunkOnThatGoodSushi 25

Sluttiness. When I was young, I ate that up. Now, I cringe. I think, "Whose daughter are you?!" lol

youreallmeatanyway 66

Your fedora will arrive in 7-14 days.

Sorcha16 12

He's already one with the fedora

OGLeonLio 21

I'll be the one that states, they've all fallen off my radar. The entire dating regimen, is such a slippery slope of "impressing" the other that it at it's core, is foolish and undesirable. Ultimately your finding one person you can tolerate whether you realize it or not. Something about them your just living with because the compromise is too difficult for the other party.

I like my own space, my own time.

P.s. However, I wish you all the best luck in finding your S.O. 👍

Asylumsix

would love a week off of marriage just to to lay in bed jerk off and eat some fruit loops. You keep on doing.

PBanon2 20

Large breasts. I used to be so into them that I dated my first girlfriend solely because of her huge boobs. Interestingly enough when I finally saw and played with them I was really disappointed, however I didn't learn much from this and all the women I was into up until my mid-20s or so had large breasts. I'm not sure what changed but I'm just not that into them anymore and sometimes even like tiny breasts. In fact I guess since I've discovered I'm bisexual I even like no breasts.

nicgeorgie 19

Curious as to why “blonde” is on here so many times?

No other hair color has been mentioned, and it’s something people don’t choose (even though I know it’s possible to change) it’s just how you’re born and what hand your dealt.

Where as most other responses are all about things within the woman’s control, ie drinking habits, narcissism, etc.

catbrannigan 25

I think what a lot of people are referring to are the bottle blondes, not necessarily people born blonde.

With that in consideration, people must be feeding into the dumb blonde stereotype, of the hot, beautiful and dumb bunny type girls. Assuming attractive, young blonde girls are dumb. Given that, being blonde is expensive, and a lot of effort. Some girls that want to be blonde, and pay for it are more likely to be conscious of their appearance. If appearance is all they really have as a positive attribute, it may be true that those girls are more likely to invest in the blonde treatment. Making them eye candy, but nothing really substantial. Of course this isn't true for all women.

nicgeorgie 8

Thank you!
That actually makes a lot of sense.

As a natural blonde who tried to be a brunette once I learned the hard way how much blonde roots look like you’re going grey so it peaked my curiosity.

I can completely understand not wanting to be with someone who doesn’t have any substance and only brings their appearance to the table.

demdems74 3

I think it's less about the actual hair colour and more about the associated stereotypes

batmanisfiya 18

I mean I'm only 26 but massive boobs. I used to think if they aren't a G cup, they were small. Now as long as they aren't an A cup, I'm bout it.

Toastwithme 30

are you a guy?

If so, how do you know what a girl’s bra size is?

I’ve always wondered how guys could tell what cup size a girl was (I’m female btw)

shadyladythrowaway 19

They almost never know unless you tell them. Many people have no idea what different bra sizes actually look like.

Ryansbitchasswife 15

Honestly, most can’t. I’ve heard guys say that kind of stuff but also assume my boobs are much bigger or smaller than they actually are. My husband is 30 and didn’t realize my boobs were a D cup. He said they were “huge” and he would have assumed bigger.

Toastwithme 25

Hmm, this makes me curious as to why guys talk about a woman’s bra size when most of them clearly have no fucking clue what they’re talking about lol

It’s nearly impossible to tell what cup size a woman is unless you’re able to actually look at the tag on her bra, which might not even be her correct size anyways.

magusheart 11

I personally don't have a clue about bra size, I just know I tend to prefer smaller boobs.

Red_Brick_Builder

We have an idea because we’re obsessed with boobs. For years and years. Used to be you’d compare boob size by reading Playboy. It lists bra size. Most are 36C but not all.

Tatnatnat

You have no idea the amount of our brains is taken up by looking at and thinking about boobs.

AxeOfWyndham 20

I used to be into bigger, but now I prefer A, B, or C. Even then, it depends on how tall she is and how much body fat. Huge boobs on small framed low fat bodies kind of weird me out compared to when I was younger.

Cthulu2013 17

The sadgirl club, pot head, life is in constant chaos-aesthetic. Black vans/docs, skinny jeans, denim/army jacket with a grey hoodie and a toque. Smokes cheap cigarettes and spends all her money on booze and tattoos.

OK it's still mind blowingly hot but I can't have that shit in my life anymore =(

If your mattress is on the floor I'm out the door.

curves_to_the_left 16

I spent 17 years of my life with a super skinny woman. I used to find women like that super attractive. I thought it was self control that kept them that skinny. Then after all those years, I realized it was self-loathing and drugs that made it work.
Now I'm with a hard working woman build more pear shaped, like my mother is. With that said, I'm happier now, than I have ever been! ❤️

EarningAttorney 16

Girls that wanted nothing to do with me.

Red_Brick_Builder 16

Young women in revealing outfits. Now they’re like daughters and need to put on more layers.

fubooze 15

Fake tatas

samema 6

So true tho

DreadChylde 15

Pierced labia and pierced tongue. Interesting once but now I just think it's annoying.

Yeah partying gets old. I mean I'm no life coach but I dont think cocaine and alcohol make a foundation for a solid relationship.

hugeveinycock 13

I used to like thin/skinny girls who were pretty. Now if I had the choice, I'd take a less attractive girl with thick thighs and ass.

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caiogerman 13

motorcycles. sorry,but too noisy for me

CreativeAnswer 10

What on earth is your issue?

lintboi 10

Motorcycles ! x)

hifeyokidshideyowifi 12

Go with the flow attitude. Don’t get me wrong, I much prefer a chill person to high maintenance, but at least have your shit together.

energeticHSP 7

As a (young-ish) woman who’s last SO broke things off with her because she was “too type A”, I found your post reassuring after some seriously prolonged lurking through this thread. I’m just trying to be the best person I can be and I’m not going to get there without taking charge of my life!

Best wishes to you fellow internet stranger !

chaawuu1 3

This is a good point and helps me out in a way thanks

umdraco 12

My wife

monopolio1789 19

Oof

jebesbudalu 11

F

youreallmeatanyway 2

/thread

roachezmo 11

Ditzy party girls. I thought it meant they were carefree and fun.

Nah. They were usually just kinda dumb and liked free drugs. Not inherently wrong on its own, just pretty much the exact opposite of what I go for these days.

Hysteria113 11

I used to not mind when girls brought up zoadic signs. But now when they do I instantly think less them and their intelligence.

Like sweetie have you never taken/read anything about astronomy?

If anything has changed it’s that I find intelligence in a woman so sexy. Especially when a girl can teach me about things I never knew before.

TabrisThe17th 11

Girls who play games.

If they show interest then revoke it when I recripocate, then return it when I lose interest, I immediately cut contact now. Always manipulators.

blonde girls. they haven't become unattractive by any means, it's just them redheaded ladies are always on mind pretty much all the time.

Newzealot 10

Girls with shaved heads. I guess in the ‘90s it meant fun, alternative and edgy.
Nowadays it means lesbians who would would have nothing to do with me.

I’m not sure if this is a social change or just a personal one.
Maybe a little from column A and a little from column B.

FridgeNOR 9

Mirrors. And their stupid ass reflections.

integral_red 9

I guess "artsy" girls. Invariably they're just narcissists who picked a scene where they could peacock and do drugs, but, you know, like a cool person and not a regular old teenager who's self absorbed and does drugs. You couldn't pay me to hang with a girl with tats, a beanie, and a sternum piercing now.

Kawaii_killer13 11

Lol I think you mean septum piercing

usegao 8

i feel like so many of these are based on specific people.

mikebrave 9

I used to be religious so I went for religious girls who were somewhat prudish sexually, and if they weren't it would have been a kind of turn off.

Now I would rather be with someone who has a dirty sense of humor, who likes innuendos, and who feels free enough to be sexy when she want's to be.

DEEEPFREEZE 9

Party girls. Used to love girls who could hang in with me when boozin. Now, when perusing Tinder, whenever I see a photo(s) of girls double-fisting or shotgunning beers or whathaveyou I’m just like really? That’s the perception of you you want to be putting out to the world?

HernaniStyle 9

I used to like those sad/emo girls and then I grew up with them and realized they were all crazy as fuck. I’ve moved onto girls that aren’t over their ex boyfriends now and let me tell you, that’s a whole different ballpark.

starscreamlover 9

When I was in my early twenties (39 now), I used to love blonde girls that partied as hard as I did. If she could roll a joint while wearing a bikini in the passenger seat on the way to the next party, that was a keeper. Now just give me a burnette with a genuine smile and has a positive attitude about life so we can have good conversations while we're hiking thru a beautiful canyon.

muffin-fucker 8

I used to be oddly attracted to girls who don’t have their shit together. Ones who are kind of a little bit of a mess, with their own forgivable shortcomings and whatnot.

I am no longer into this. No one is perfect, but I’m not going after anyone that can’t live life properly.

busy-at-work 8

I’ve always been into “thicc” girls since grade school really. I find them sexy. I’m even into BBWs.

Now that I’m almost 30, I have no desire to marry a “thicc” girl. It sounds horrible but I’ve gone up and down in weight so often over the last 10 years that I tend to gravitate towards women with a focus on eating healthy.

It’s 100% to try and make up for my own shortcomings but if I’m with a girl that’s down for pizza every night I quickly balloon up in weight because even when I’m not physically with her I tend to eat poorly after already eating poorly in a pretty rough cycle.

CopperKing442 8

Shaven then. Not shaven now.

rhetterb 3

Opposite

lolrightwathever 8

I always fell for the hot crazy bitch types that was unstable, mean and difficult. Now i just want a bestfriend as my partner

atticusgames7 8

Dependency. Nice to have someone who is totally reliant on you and your companionship whilst you guys, but when you get older you want someone who can live life with you not cause of you and who if something happened, can take over in life and be okay.

My sister in law is not like this and my brother has a kid with her, a kid with another woman and he "adopted" her two siblings. She does nothing and is nothing so if he died she would live off welfare and not be able to cook, clean or even drive cause she doesn't have a license at 24 with 4 kids that could need to be driven around

mentalasanything 8

I used to be attracted to women who were outspoken, who appeared to know what they wanted. In other words I didn't have to navigate unspoken cues, or be expected to be psychic.
Later in my life I have come to value a woman who recognises any relationship is a team effort and that its the ability of both parties to compromise that makes it successful. In the early years there appears to be an unofficial need to establish dominance in a relationship, until that is grown out of, or successfully settled, most relationships are doomed to fail.

forever_doomed 7

Fake tits.

I used to think “damn those look amazing, she’s HOT!” Now I think, “Jeez that poor girl must have zero self-esteem to do that to herself. What a mess!”

Kataphractoi 7

Super skinny girls. Today I look at one and all I can think is "damn, you need to eat a cheeseburger or two". Give me a woman with curves anyday.

CelebrityMartyr 24

Well excuse me, I didn’t chose to have a body built like and A4 sheet of paper 😂

termitered 7

Narrower hips. Definitely

Bigger hips. Definitely

TheDanielBaxter 7

When I was a child. I thought ripped, muscular physiques looked so cool (Arnie circa 80's, and Ultimate Warrior). They were the epitome of MAN and in my eyes I thought they were the greatest.

However as I got older, i started to hate that chiseled look and instead found the rugged weathered look to be much cooler. So people like a young Clint Eastwood or Charlton Heston are just the coolest looking guys on the planet.

P.s I'm a straight male. So it's not a sexual thing. It's more like a childlike wonder at things that are "COOL"

CzarEggbert 7

Acting helpless... I had a bit of a White Knight issue in my 20s, now it just makes me think you are a pain in the ass that needs to grow up.

ANoiseChild 7

College girls.

When I was younger, college girls were where it was at! In high school, I wanted some slightly older college girls. In college, hell yeah, right up my alley!

Now that I’m in my 30s, holy hell are they YOUNG - 18 to 23 years old is just a small step above a child with all the realizations of life yet ahead of them, with naivety and immature abounding (I know I know, that’s a gross generalization but still...) Count me out.

hippiejesus420 7

I was into promiscuous girls. That became less and less attractive to me as I began to learn that that kind of behavior usually comes along with a slew of other problems, and will almost never end well if you actually try to emotionally invest in them.

(Not all women; just the majority of those with a certain set of behavior that I have personally observed)

bigjoday 6

Corvettes

mad_bad_dangerous 6

Instagram models. I dated one and it was like being a hall of mirrors all the time.

absentlyric 6

Lower back tattoos.

_BLACKHAWKS_88 6

Girls that I could relate to on the principle that we both just didn’t have our lives together career wise and were carefree.. now that I do.. it’s becoming more apparent I should find responsible suitors.. here’s the catch.. I’m in my late 20s and it’s apparent that nobody really knows what the actual fuck is going on. We are on a mud ball flying through space and our only real source of energy is a star that’s dying and it’s going to consume us anyway. Attractiveness is what society wants you to think it is..

Side note. I found girls who could draw within the lines attractive when I was in 2nd grade. 😂

gayfrogwater

Mugi_Li84 6

Women with sassy attitudes.
I used to get turned on by that sort of aggression from a girl. I usual had the "hood chicks" that liked me or those with serious daddy issues...but now at 30 I want a girl that's emotionally stable and knows how to communicate properly lol

TheMightyTater 6

Big boobs.

I used to absolutely love them, but it's dialed back to a like as I've gotten older.

However, my love for the booty has grown considerably.

metaltrite 6

Used to actually like the party girls who wanted to drink and do drugs and have fun with whatever. It was fun being around them and I ended up having a memorable night with them 90% of the time. Now they’re just fucking annoying and seem so immature. That may have something to do with me not drinking anymore rather than just age though.

Pterodaryl 5

Eyebrow rings.

Trufaldo 5

I'd like to know if I'm alone on this, 'cause I didn't read all the comments, but I started to distinguish between attractiveness, flexible and fit women in my case, and youth. I don't see them as the same concept anymore. In the case most people call 'hot girl', all I see is a not fully developed woman who still has child-like traits in her body. Like, she is thin or whatnot but that's because her metabolism is that of a child, almost, she isn't really fit. And the like.
No objectivization intended, my apologies if it is.

JustMeSomeday 5

Any woman with the personality and behavior of Amy Schumer. Not in a hundred years...or ever for that matter.

Sorcha16 7

So you at one stage found that attractive ?

drakenskar 5

Partners immediately thinking long term. For whatever reason in my teens I loved thinking about marriage, kids, etc. very early into relationships. These days I kind of see it as a red flag.

mitchevic 5

Lesbians

pembunuhUpahan 5

Girls that are beautiful based primarily on looks, e.g supermodel standards like Gigi Hadid, Kylie Jenner, etc but now I'm attracted if that girl may not have those "looks" but their personality is adorable and funny.
Like Ellie Kemper, Vanessa Bayer, Cecily Strong, Tina Fey, Claire from Bon Appetite, etc. Those girls are instant crush for me that my younger teenage me would never consider

azzaisme 4

When I was 16 I had a thing for 16 year olds. That is no longer the case

Boomzy 4

Emo girls. They are hot when you are a teenager but when you become an adult you realize they are almost all insane.

mixmasterpayne 4

Fake barbie porn star looking chicks

JonathanJONeill 4

Not necessarily unattractive but when I was younger, I was really attracted to black and asian women more than white women. Now, not so much. I don't find them unattractive. They just don't have the allure that they used to have.

mythrowxra 3

Girls playing hard to get.

Adult women playing hard to get... when their only companion is a cat.

Skcus_Pmurt 3

Skinny/fit.

zamdev666 3

Party kind of girls.

liamreganfin 3

Girls that smoke

in_Tim_idator 3

Destructive behavior.

Dukeofhurl212 3

Crazy women

Grogegrog 3

Breast implants

RelativeCrab 3

Women with problems.

I wanted to help them fix the problem. But it turns out, you can't fix what's broken if it doesn't want to get fixed. Took me 7 years and 2 women to learn that. I became a sponge for all their day to day problems and nothing else.

I still want to help, but that's only as a friend. Because I've got nothing better to do, but there's going to be a much harder limit to the shit I'll put up with.

krillking 2

Facial piercings and depression

BearerBear 7

I feel attacked lmao

kisubolti 2

When I was in elementary/ middle school, I thought those skinny shorter guys were cuter but now that i’m almost 6’, that just doesn’t work for me anymore hahaha

missing_noway 2

12 year olds

AnonymousTacoUser 2

18 year olds

locnlol 2

Absolutely nothing.

patico_cr 2

Drinking alcohol and feeling like shit in the morni g

wiggywonka 2

Blondes.

Victordj50 2

Really tall women....

Trowawaycausebanned4 2

Cool and objectively attractive girls.

Now I just want the cute sweet ones...

You know having somebody who wants me back for once would be nice.

KarlBlau 2

Tattoos and piercings

RomeTotalWar 2

My wife.

idc1710 2

Girls who party... Girls who get blackout... Daddy issues

Doziness 2

My 21 year-old self.

jbh01 2

Teenagers.

darkstar1031 2

"Party girls". It might have been cool when you were in highschool, but you're 34 now, Helen. Grow the fuck up.

It’s still attractive visually, but personality and other things are significantly more important to me now. The “bro” thing gets really old really quick. The hyper-masculinity usually stems from insecurity and also gets old. Making dumb decisions is just, well, dumb, and is not attractive at all. The partying is fine here and there, but all the time partying and getting with a bunch of people sexually is a huge turnoff. I rather be with someone who saves that for someone special. A shitty boyfriend - I don’t know why this ever was attractive to me, but it’s definitely not now.

Another is mental instability/being problematic. Again, I don’t know why I ever found this attractive. Maybe it was cuz I was going through some stuff at the time. But I always seemed to be attracted to the most problematic, shitty pretty girls. I can’t even stand to be around girls like that now.

cosinezero 1

Crazy.

appleORorange 1

I like tits, very glad they seem to all be bigger the older i am...

shiv_red 1

Blonde.

CommanderDinosaur 1

Sluts

bayer_aspirin 1

I guess chin straps or non-beard facial hair styles. I’m a str8 dude for reference, and ima be real when I was in HS, I couldn’t grow shit. I used to think as I walked by similarly aged folk or anyone older like “damn, when will it be mine turn?” Since I had thin coverage compared to now. Now that I have pretty thick facial hair, I can’t imagine why anyone would shave their mustache and encircle their face with their chin/ jaw hair lol. Whack.

qxangelxp 1

poop
poop used to be awesome in middle school.

BostonBatwanger 1

Anal sex

Sarge-Pepper 1

Myself.

ChunkyLoadChad 1

Older women

daibz 1

Emo girls now being damaged and taking it out on people is not fun

justcallmecam21 1

Crop tops

JD-Anderson 1

Insecurity.

vicvega88 1

Milfs

atheistpk 1

Women my own age.

Ekluutna 1

Guys with long, shaggy hair....

javajam 1

Skinny jeans and basketball sneakers where my thing when I was like 13. These days, not so much.

OPXur 0

17 year olds.

AlphaCatt 0

Shy and quiet women. Loved those type of women. So cute. Now it's a turn off.

Tiderian 0

Drunkenness

bayourouge -1

Tattoos. Uck.

Dog_In_Man_Suit -3

Easy women. When your younger an easy lay sounds really attractive. But as I have gotten older any interaction that starts with let's have sex is so unattractive. It feels sleazy now. If your willing to have sex right off the bat without knowing me ,how many other guys have you had one night stands with?

khaki53 16

If you're willing to have sex with a woman in the first date then how many other women have you had one night stand with ew slut

Hunnybunny6 10

I hope you dont have sex with them so because you'd be a hypocrite if you did.

fromnj32 6

Honestly, as a woman i find this so unattractive on men too. I think it's just growing up and realizing how sleazy some people are.

Victordj50

And that's a question that you seriously do not want to know the answer....

Lotus_towers -4

White Women.

clem-ent -4

sluttiness

JosephMH4 -8

I had an unrelenting thing for Latina women in my 20’s. And not the kind that are incredibly loyal and want to make a house and home, but the hot & sexy, spicy hard-to-get ones. I hooked up with a few, and even married one, but got burned every time. Badly in the marriage. Perhaps I should have enjoyed the rides (no pun intended), but I was always going for something serious. I think the bad end to the marriage finally extinguished the flame of desire I had for the mujeres.

monopolio1789 18

Maybe ...just maybe it had nothing to do with their ethnicity but the type of person they were.

JosephMH4 4

Yeah.. I was a bit apprehensive to post my attraction because of that, but I just rolled with it. I think my judge of character back then was in the shits.

frito_live -15

Yoga pants.. those are just the modern version of trashy sweat pants. Don't want us to stare at your ass? Don't wear underwear in public you filthy whore!

He seems to wants a women whose sex negivate, i assume anyways, since it the opposite of being sex positive. So he probably wants a women that views sex as something gross and shameful.. Etc.
I guess hes not down for women who enjoy sex and aren't ashamed of it.

bikeboiz 3

Gross

dead_pirate_robertz -39

Intelligent, hard-working women with successful careers used to thrill me. Then I married two of them (one at a time!) and encountered the downside of their being able to hire good lawyers and get child support when they divorce me. When my 12-year-old turns 18 or 23, depending on his circumstances, I'll have been paying child support for 22 - 27 years.

Women with lower incomes (1) appreciate their husband's financial contribution more; (2) can't finance their divorce case as well; and (3) will probably have a net reduced income after their divorce, despite their (almost inevitably) winning child support. For high-income women, the child support is extra (for them) money that they don't really need but are eager to receive. It's the same ambition that powered them through school and their career. They really do want it all.

Edit:

Is this ironic? I can't tell. My Dad resented the pressure of being the sole provider, and gave his children the message that we made him miserable because he had to provide for us. When feminism game along, I was an immediate convert. "SHE will get a good job and help support the family? GREAT!" I remain a feminist. I love women (sequentially). I want women to have all the opportunities that men have. The women I married were advocates of and beneficiaries of feminism. I helped both of them in their careers.

It's not just me that suffers from moderne women's success.

In the last '60's or early '70's, there were three sites in the U.S. that conducted "Negative Income Tax" experiments, a Milton Freeman idea that poor people could get out of poverty if income support programs didn't have a point where services dropped severely when income increased to a certain level. The implementation of the NIT inevitably significantly increased the income of the people in the program. The experiments were cancelled when observers saw the divorce rate increase dramatically. Poor women got out of crappy marriages because, with the NIT, they could afford to.

Want a marriage that lasts? Marry a bright, ambitious woman who makes little or no money -- because she will value the money you bring home, and she won't have independent means to leave you.

vnovendetta

Wow.

nerdwerds

Blondes

Pyr0_Brawler-

Tons of makeup.

I used to think it looked cute but what it really conveys is insecurity.

(I'm not trying to hate on people that maybe have image issues or have anxiety so they put on a ton of makeup. I just find it unattractive)

abyrd22

I was big into milfs, no mas

THESthebaker

Katy Perry

sexymurse

Slutty women ... There's an old saying "you can't turn a whore into a housewife". It's true and I should have listened to my grandfather on that one.

Edit - There's no PC way to say that not that I care but Reddit has a meltdown when someone says the brutal truth.

ender_wiggin1988

Small, perky tits.

If they don't fill my hands I feel like a pediphile holding them these days.

NoGatchaNoLife

Braises

Jbpsmd

A lot of makeup. Looked sexy when young. Looks trashy or trying too hard to me now. My wife rarely wears it. Only puts it on if we get a night out and it’s just enough to tell she has something on.

GLASSKNEES42YEARS

MILFS. i used to be into them but now that i’m a little older i prefer not old pussy. i mean when you really think about it, 30 is old in pussy years.

i also don’t believe in marriage so this is just for temporary companionship.

s_team7

Messing around with two girls at once. It sounds awesome and it is, but you soon start to realize and figure out exactly what you want from a person. I want all of your loyalty, kindness, compassion and emotions just for myself and to never share with anyone else.

Cl0ck_F4ce

I used to really like southern farm girls. Now that I'm older I know I would never have been able to keep up with that life.

Now I'm more into women like my fiance who love books, music, and art galleries. A great date would be some nice coffee and cake before a walk or an event. Taking photos or just seeing sights.