That price would be inflated. $6500 w/o 'cede and pwm is $5500 w/o turbo which is a lot of money for a manifold and some misc bits. Again, these turbos are readily available starting at $8xx.

Maybe the cheaper budget version of the turbo will cost that much, but Shiv is using the ball bearing version which lists for twice as much. I don't see him cutting corners on this kit. From what I've seen in Creaminz thread everything is fully legit and the performance of Shiv's car shows the value of doing things right. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=692883

Maybe the cheaper budget version of the turbo will cost that much, but Shiv is using the ball bearing version which lists for twice as much. I don't see him cutting corners on this kit. From what I've seen in Creaminz thread everything is fully legit and the performance of Shiv's car shows the value of doing things right. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=692883

Hince the use of "starting." you are right the BB versions are about $1500, which still leaves the same $5500 for manifold and misc bits.

Did you guys look at the Dyno? less torque and hp than stock below 4k. I'll stick with the drivability of the stock turbos. My tires already get ripped loose from full boost I imagine this car has no traction without slicks on full boost.

Did you guys look at the Dyno? less torque and hp than stock below 4k. I'll stick with the drivability of the stock turbos. My tires already get ripped loose from full boost I imagine this car has no traction without slicks on full boost.

I'd sacrifice down low power to be able to have that insane torque curve pull you towards redline! Just me though

I'd sacrifice down low power to be able to have that insane torque curve pull you towards redline! Just me though

Funny that these types of comments are always coming from people who haven't driven or even ridden in one. Using a dyno as a reference, they are able to discern the drivability with 100% accuracy.

I actually gave up quite a bit of torque under 2800 when I switched from my COBB pro tune to Procede + FlexFuel, but ended up with more torque and much, much more power above 4k and it has never felt better. Acceleration is much smoother and it rips until redline.

Not to mention that one of the biggest benefits of the single is how it just keeps going until redline, it does not taper off like stocks or even RBs. But if you're a low-end torque junky and you need 400+ lbs at 2500 rpm, it probably isn't worth debating. I've been there and I didn't like the jerkiness at times, nor did I like worrying about breaking something with that much power from a dig.

If you talk about losing traction on stock turbos and assume the single results in no traction at all, why do you need that much torque in a range that you aren't going to be racing in?

Did you guys look at the Dyno? less torque and hp than stock below 4k. I'll stick with the drivability of the stock turbos. My tires already get ripped loose from full boost I imagine this car has no traction without slicks on full boost.

Maybe you need to watch my video. I think you will realize everything you said is not accurate. I don't have slicks and dead hook second.

Did you guys look at the Dyno? less torque and hp than stock below 4k. I'll stick with the drivability of the stock turbos. My tires already get ripped loose from full boost I imagine this car has no traction without slicks on full boost.

Maybe you need to watch my video. I think you will realize everything you said is not accurate. I don't have slicks and dead hook second.

Totally agree with FBis.

I spin out less with my single than with the Cobb 2+ I was running both with LSD ... and then the car just keeps going and going.

U need to drive one of the single turbos to really understand it!

With the Cobb 2+ and FBO I was still rummaging for more mods and surfing the boards. Since going single ... I just drive and drive, as every drive is just way too fun. After 3 months still isn't old.