1.) The crazy biatch had pictures she inadvertently took while killing him. (She tried trashing the camera in the washing machine. Digital cameras, FTW!) Seriously creepy to see a picture of Alexander posing in the shower, and, like three minutes later, she's dragging his bloody body across the floor. These were taken several hours after they took nekkid pics of each other after sex. So she bones the guy, packs her shiat to leave, and kills him while he's cleansing her stank off him.2.) First, it was ninjas/people dressed in black. Then, she fessed up that she killed him in self defense - 29 stab wounds, slit his throat, and shot him in the head. But it was self defense!3.) She rents a car, carts several gas cans to AZ with her, changes her hair color before going, shuts off her cell phone, and mucks up the license plates before showing up to his place....but it wasnt anything she 'planned.'4.) biatch can remember what she ordered from starbucks...but killing him is all 'foggy.'5.) She spent the longest time on stand of any murder defendant in history - and believe me - it was an exercise in crazy lying.6.) I don't even wanna know what they did with the pop rocks and tootsie pops, but I'm guessing she had the worst yeast infection in the history of EVER!7.) She claimed he broke her finger and she caught him crusing kiddie porn...but there was no record of it on his computer and she never came up with any evidence of medical treatment for said finger (she said Travis bandaged it.)

biatch is weapons-grade crazy. Glad she's gonna fry. Can't wait to hear what she says when she makes her jury statement.

Jodi Arias is a murdering psychopath, though I would like to say that the bolded parts aren't actually inconsistent with the proposition that she as an abused woman who killed in self-defense. No, I'm not saying she was an abused woman who killed in self-defense. I am saying that:

1) An abused woman who killed in self-defense might be overtaken with emotion at the time of the killing, and unleash her pent up frustration and anger on her abuser's body.

2) Even an abused woman with a terrific memory who killed in self-defense might suppress the memory of the killing, which would surely have been a traumatic experience for her.

1.) The crazy biatch had pictures she inadvertently took while killing him. (She tried trashing the camera in the washing machine. Digital cameras, FTW!) Seriously creepy to see a picture of Alexander posing in the shower, and, like three minutes later, she's dragging his bloody body across the floor. These were taken several hours after they took nekkid pics of each other after sex. So she bones the guy, packs her shiat to leave, and kills him while he's cleansing her stank off him.2.) First, it was ninjas/people dressed in black. Then, she fessed up that she killed him in self defense - 29 stab wounds, slit his throat, and shot him in the head. But it was self defense!3.) She rents a car, carts several gas cans to AZ with her, changes her hair color before going, shuts off her cell phone, and mucks up the license plates before showing up to his place....but it wasnt anything she 'planned.'4.) biatch can remember what she ordered from starbucks...but killing him is all 'foggy.'5.) She spent the longest time on stand of any murder defendant in history - and believe me - it was an exercise in crazy lying.6.) I don't even wanna know what they did with the pop rocks and tootsie pops, but I'm guessing she had the worst yeast infection in the history of EVER!7.) She claimed he broke her finger and she caught him crusing kiddie porn...but there was no record of it on his computer and she never came up with any evidence of medical treatment for said finger (she said Travis bandaged it.)

biatch is weapons-grade crazy. Glad she's gonna fry. Can't wait to hear what she says when she makes her jury statement.

how do you inadvertently take pictures?

My guess is that she had the camera on a wrist strap, and, while she was getting stabby, she hit the button on the camera. I think she tried deleting them before she ran them through the washing machine, but AZ computer forensics guys were able to retrieve the data.

BeatrixK:My guess is that she had the camera on a wrist strap, and, while she was getting stabby, she hit the button on the camera. I think she tried deleting them before she ran them through the washing machine, but AZ computer forensics guys were able to retrieve the data.

Is there anyway to destroy a hard drive so forensics guys can't retrieve the data? It seems like they are always able to get something.

I knew nothing about this till last week when my sister came to visit. She watches this stuff incessantly. Complete with her own running commentary. I'm sickened by the whole thing. Yes, it sounds like Jodi is a pschopath or sociopath or something, and I'm sure she's guilty, but the HLN coverage is sickening. Nancy Grace is a vulture and Jane what'shername is repellant in her own right.

I try to find lots of other things to do, in other parts of the house, while the tv is on.

CynicalLA:BeatrixK: My guess is that she had the camera on a wrist strap, and, while she was getting stabby, she hit the button on the camera. I think she tried deleting them before she ran them through the washing machine, but AZ computer forensics guys were able to retrieve the data.

Is there anyway to destroy a hard drive so forensics guys can't retrieve the data? It seems like they are always able to get something.

corq:I read true crime news as an armchair hobby, and most crimes of jealousy are weird enough. However before the trial even started, the squick factor of this case surpassed even my elevated thresholds.

Boys, if this isn't enough warning to never stick your d*ck in teh crazy, I don't know what is.

Mind sharing a decent link for those of us who are just hearing about this today but would like to get into the gory details?

CynicalLA:BeatrixK: My guess is that she had the camera on a wrist strap, and, while she was getting stabby, she hit the button on the camera. I think she tried deleting them before she ran them through the washing machine, but AZ computer forensics guys were able to retrieve the data.

Is there anyway to destroy a hard drive so forensics guys can't retrieve the data? It seems like they are always able to get something.

CynicalLA:Is there anyway to destroy a hard drive so forensics guys can't retrieve the data? It seems like they are always able to get something.

I think if you overwrite it enough times with the random garbate, that works, or at least will stop anyone short of the NSA. DBAN is a popular tool for that. Total destruction of the drive platters will work for sure (thermite is what the military uses for that purpose).

Jodi Arias is a murdering psychopath, though I would like to say that the bolded parts aren't actually inconsistent with the proposition that she as an abused woman who killed in self-defense. No, I'm not saying she was an abused woman who killed in self-defense. I am saying that:

1) An abused woman who killed in self-defense might be overtaken with emotion at the time of the killing, and unleash her pent up frustration and anger on her abuser's body.

Not ONE of his ex GF's testified to anything regarding a past history of abusive behavior from Alexander. Now, while I don't think the guy walked on water - he certainly had no history of physically abusive behavior. Also...hard to understand how he got so many knife wounds on his back, plus the whole practically decapitated part if she was 'deathly afraid' of him/he was menacing her? Also - why even make up a story of the black-clad intruders: If it was self defense, why bother calling his phone and leaving him voicemails after she knew she'd just left him lumped in his shower? Why try to cover her tracks so well and feign ignorance?

2) Even an abused woman with a terrific memory who killed in self-defense might suppress the memory of the killing, which would surely have been a traumatic experience for her.

I'm sure it was very traumatic for her: She had a shiatton of lying to do, and she killed in a state with a death penalty. I'm sure that would fog up her memory moreso than any 'trauma' from her made up abuse. I think it was far more traumatic for her that he thought of her as a fark buddy and wasn't going to change his mind and take her to Cancun - and that he didn't appreciate her recording phone sex to use against him. If anything, given what we know about the case - it seems more thaat Alexander was a DA victim at her deeds and actions prior to the murder.

She did too many things before the visit to suggest she had something in mind - and I think self defense was the only card she could remotely play in hopes for getting that one juror. Thankfully, she was a HORRIBLE liar and couldn't make up a remotely convincing story. But how DARE she claim 'domestic abuse' in light of how many people actually suffer through it every day.

Sass-O-Rev:I knew nothing about this till last week when my sister came to visit. She watches this stuff incessantly. Complete with her own running commentary. I'm sickened by the whole thing. Yes, it sounds like Jodi is a pschopath or sociopath or something, and I'm sure she's guilty, but the HLN coverage is sickening. Nancy Grace is a vulture and Jane what'shername is repellant in her own right.

I try to find lots of other things to do, in other parts of the house, while the tv is on.

/sis is going home on Saturday.

I couldn't avoid watching a bit about this trial the other week, and during the show they did a man on the street interview that perfectly summed up everything wrong with celebrity trials, criminal justice, and our culture as a whole. The reporter goes out to the line to ask some people how long they've been waiting to get inside the courtroom, chats with a few people, and then this woman says "I record this every day. I never miss an episode!"

You never miss... an episode? For fark's sake, America, get it together.

CynicalLA:BeatrixK: My guess is that she had the camera on a wrist strap, and, while she was getting stabby, she hit the button on the camera. I think she tried deleting them before she ran them through the washing machine, but AZ computer forensics guys were able to retrieve the data.

Is there anyway to destroy a hard drive so forensics guys can't retrieve the data? It seems like they are always able to get something.

I would guess putting it next to a magnetic source - or throwing it wherever she tossed the gun and the knife, both of which were never found.

However, we do now know running it through the wash cycle with bleach won't destroy it!

Prank Call of Cthulhu:I hadn't been paying any attention to this case, didn't know anything about it, until the other day when I saw some news headline about testimony regarding kinky sex at the trial. So of course I clicked on it, and it turns out that "kinky" means oral, a little buttsexing, phone sex, and role playing.

Some people have a COMPLETELY different view of "kinky" than I do.

But then I read the folks involved were Mormon, and it made a bit more sense.

CynicalLA:BeatrixK: My guess is that she had the camera on a wrist strap, and, while she was getting stabby, she hit the button on the camera. I think she tried deleting them before she ran them through the washing machine, but AZ computer forensics guys were able to retrieve the data.

Is there anyway to destroy a hard drive so forensics guys can't retrieve the data? It seems like they are always able to get something.

Generation_D:Flatus: Meanwhile, zero Fark threads about the damning testimony on Benghazi, today. It's funny how you liberals bury your heads in the sand.

That the crap John Bolton was slinging? Look bushie, you are lucky you aren't under indictment. Go pound your crap up your a-- over in Huckabee-land. People with a semblance of brains don't give a crap what you people are slinging, and hopefully won't again.

TommyDeuce:CynicalLA: BeatrixK: My guess is that she had the camera on a wrist strap, and, while she was getting stabby, she hit the button on the camera. I think she tried deleting them before she ran them through the washing machine, but AZ computer forensics guys were able to retrieve the data.

Is there anyway to destroy a hard drive so forensics guys can't retrieve the data? It seems like they are always able to get something.

Drill the platters, then thermite, just to be sure.

//Industrial cross-shredder is acceptable as well.

The camera supposedly has 32MB built in. I doubt it is rotating memory.

I think it's have been amusingly stupid if the pictures were going to a SD card she could have just removed and tossed in a microwave.

/Guy spent at least $1,499.99 on a camera to take nekkid pictures of a girl, and they call her crazy

The Dog Ate My Homework:I still don't understand how this became a national story. It's just one of countless murder trials that go on all the time literally everywhere around the country.

My guess is the '48 hours' interviews they did with her during the 'ninjas broke in and killed Travis and I escaped when the gun misfired' portion of her story a month or so after the killing put it in the national spotlight. then, the follow ups when it turned to 'oh nos - self defense'. Plus, the circumstances are seriously effed up: The guy was dead for 4 or 5 days in his shower, had roommates who apparently were in the house during the time he was dead, (the shower/his bedroom suite was on the second floor - how they didn't begin to notice a smell was beyond me.) and the coont who murdered him was sending him emails/vmails after she knew she'd killed him. Oh, and she tried to bone a prospective new BF the day after she offed Travis. A recorded phone sex session and the nekkid pics also helped ramp up the publicity.

There was also some weirdness with her initially wanting to represent herself, but screwing that up royally where the court pretty much said you have to have some public defenders.