They've been mostly focused on talking about mechanics and when I gave them the opportunity to talk about people, they avoided it and said they didn't want to single anyone out.

At the moment this could just be a nervous new townie or newbie scum keeping their head down. This is exactly how I played Cluedo as newbie scum. I stayed mostly quiet and if anyone asked me anything, I either stayed vague or repeated what someone I knew to be town was saying.

I'm open to change this if Serious starts giving answers and offering opinions on other players.

I've calmed down on the Godfather issue and it's either one of 2 things:

He had to leave and was trying to get as many votes to work off of as he could. This still reeks of selfishness because we can't just write off the rest of the day because godfather isn't going to be here. Isn't necessarily a scum move though.

Or, he's scum and was trying to push people into panic voting, knowing that they'd switch around once they'd formed actual opinions and he could jump on this switching.

I haven't played with godfather before, I don't know how typical this behaviour is but not listening to what people are saying and just yelling "Why do you all hate voting" is not productive.

And following up on his Muffin vote after a scum list that did not include Muffin also does not look good.

I'm not going to vote for godfather right now, especially since he isn't here to defend himself (and I want to hear from Serious). But I'm going to be watching this attitude for the rest of the game.

saenima: I've got a town-lean read on him at the moment for reasons previously stated, not sure why they think I've given them a strong town read (I don't think I'm prepared to give anyone that kind of faith at day 1) but they haven't done anything to go against my read yet, interested in people who have gut scum reads on him to expand their views, I may be missing something.

BronsonLee: Lots of memey fluff posts, I've seen them around forums before and this seems like their standard, but that might be just trying to keep up appearances, vote tracker is down but I think they have a vote on Zipped(?) and while I don't remember it being backed up particularly well I don't like how that lead in votes just crumbled away, so towny points there maybe? I'm keeping you at your word to take them down if they just increase the fluff posts tommorow though.

WhySoDevious: Out of them all my strongest scummy vibes (mostly based of a fallacy that at least one of us 'has' to be mafia) hasn't seemed to have talked much outside of mechanics and otherwise coasting, seems close to what I had planned to do if I was scum, if we do goto dark room tommorow, I'd definitely keep an eye on them.

I don't know if you've mentioned this but what are your feelings on us spring chickens?

Bear of Love

Re: Godfather and not voting immediately - it's consistent with his past behaviour as town. He always pushes for everyone to have active votes at all times. While I agree with the sentiment, I don't think not having D1 immediately is a scumtell by itself. I don't think his actions today have been scummy per say, but it's not a huge towntell either.

You, and B-Dubs, have pointed at people and said they must have power roles. Not just zipped who hemisemidemi almost softclaimed sorta and then walked it back, but randos like godfather. I thought a third person did too but so far search is just showing you 2 with the words i remembered.

Bear of Love

To be fair, Dubs has done reads of other people based on his experiences with them outside the games. Pretty sure he read me as town in another game because 'well he is acting like he does outside the game, so that must mean he is town'. It's... flawed logic.

Bear of Love

I was going to say that her inactivity read to me more as uninterested/too busy player than laying low scum, so I wasn't having a good feeling on the votes, but then she subbed out, so we may never know.

Bear of Love

He feels genuine in the game so far, which makes me town read him. That said, he could lean into the 'I am new, I have no idea what is happening" narrative that newbie scum usually use, which gives me pause. He is still a town read for me though (cue FEP stomping in ;) ).

Bear of Love

Today has been difficult to gauge because lot of the main topics on contention have been things that don't give me much intel in terms of potential alignments. They mostly feel NAI at this point.

1. The room discussion could be easily scum fake contributing, but there may be town interactions there as well.
2. The Zipped room voting is largely MIA. My vote for him isn't the best, but it's the best I've been able to gather in terms of potential alignment intel thus far.
3. Godfather's 'everyone vote now!!!' stance has gathered some ire from players, but I've seen him done it so often that I don't see it as a scumtell.
4. And lastly, the melon vote was lazy at best. There may be scum voting there.

Bear of Love

I wouldn't be against lynching a coaster today - Someone who isn't dead in terms of activity like Melon, but someone who is laying low on purpose, while still giving out the aura that they are reading the thread - a common scum tactic. These players can easily coast until endgame and then win as scum.

I would agree it's not a scumtell itself, but it has allowed him to post a lot without giving many reads.

Strip out the posts about the importance of voting - since we agree they're NAI - and there's not a lot left. Certainly less than I would expect from a player with Godfather's unparalleled experience. He's spent more time telling others how to play than playing himself, and it's not beyond his ability for that to be an intentional ploy to sidestep day one discussion.