Comments on British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In LondonTypePad2013-01-02T17:55:29ZAndy Towlehttp://www.towleroad.com/tag:typepad.com,2003:http://www.towleroad.com/2013/01/british-archbishop-puts-kibosh-on-gay-mass-in-london/comments/atom.xml/Diogenes Arktos commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c355ef6b3970b2013-01-06T17:19:55Z2013-01-06T17:19:55ZDiogenes ArktosThe good news is that the Jesuits (of all people) are opening one of their parishes to allow this mass...<p>The good news is that the Jesuits (of all people) are opening one of their parishes to allow this mass to continue. The LGBT RC activists are pleased with the new digs.</p>
<p>BTW - This process is well-known. Many things operate in Roman circles under the radar or with tacit approval, until there are problems - such as the Pope.</p>DC Arnold commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d3f77e4fb970c2013-01-04T02:25:59Z2013-01-04T02:25:59ZDC ArnoldGlad I'm a lapsed Baptist. I learned recently that the church of my youth was paying it's pastor 3 grand...<p>Glad I&#39;m a lapsed Baptist. I learned recently that the church of my youth was paying it&#39;s pastor 3 grand a month and I remember this guy from the clubs I snuck into.</p>Douglas commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee6e65f4c970d2013-01-03T12:26:16Z2013-01-03T12:26:16ZDouglas May the Catholic Church continue to rot from the inside out. The sooner it's dead, the better.<p>May the Catholic Church continue to rot from the inside out. The sooner it&#39;s dead, the better. </p>Out of Date commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c3542017e970b2013-01-03T09:46:46Z2013-01-03T11:25:22ZOut of DateThe UK likes to think it's so hip and cool, but the truth is they are still living in the...<p>The UK likes to think it&#39;s so hip and cool, but the truth is they are still living in the past and are behind the times compared to other countries like Spain, Denmark, Sweden, the Netherlands, etc.</p>EchtKultig commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee6e4decf970d2013-01-03T08:10:01Z2013-01-03T11:25:22ZEchtKultig"Isn't it ironic that a church like the Roman Catholic church governed by so many closeted homosexuals is so anti-homosexual."...<p>&quot;Isn&#39;t it ironic that a church like the Roman Catholic church governed by so many closeted homosexuals is so anti-homosexual.&quot;</p>
<p>Not really!<br />
</p>andrew commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c3540baf3970b2013-01-03T06:06:23Z2013-01-03T07:21:11ZandrewIsn't it ironic that a church like the Roman Catholic church governed by so many closeted homosexuals is so anti-homosexual....<p>Isn&#39;t it ironic that a church like the Roman Catholic church governed by so many closeted homosexuals is so anti-homosexual. I remember watching in the late 1960&#39;s and the 70&#39;s,and into the 80&#39;s a large number of heterosexual priests leaving the priesthood to date and marry. Leaving behind a priesthood populated by a majority homosexual population who had, sadly, no place to go.</p>Mike P commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee6e38f54970d2013-01-03T04:20:39Z2013-01-03T07:21:12ZMike P For the past two papacies, the official policy of the Catholic Church towards its gay and lesbian members can only...<p>For the past two papacies, the official policy of the Catholic Church towards its gay and lesbian members can only be described as a purge. </p>bravo commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c353f3252970b2013-01-03T01:53:08Z2013-01-03T01:53:08ZbravoI'm not sure how the gay masses ever got started. Same-sex activity will always be sinful in the eyes of...<p>I&#39;m not sure how the gay masses ever got started. Same-sex activity will always be sinful in the eyes of the RC Church. Gays cannot act on physical attraction - per the church, they are called to chastity. If they do have same-sex activity, they must confess it as a sin. It is such a self-loathing mindset. I just hope that those who no longer find comfort in the RC Church find it in a gay-affirming church or elsewhere and not drown in despair. </p>matt commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d3f6df4a6970c2013-01-03T01:18:25Z2013-01-03T01:18:25Zmattthe same thing happened at st. francis xavier in greenich village. they had a mass that focused on gay parishioners,...<p>the same thing happened at st. francis xavier in greenich village. they had a mass that focused on gay parishioners, but the higher ups shut it down. still that&#39;s a very gay friendly parish.<br />
i think this &quot;shut down the gay mass&quot; scenario also played out in dc, either at st. matt&#39;s (the cathedral off dupont circle, which also has loads of gay parisioners) or one of the other downtown dc catholic churches.<br />
it&#39;s a load of crap. the catholic church regularly aims masses at particular groups: teen-agers, blacks, latinos, military personnel, etc.<br />
but not for gay people.<br />
read: you&#39;re not welcome here if the word gay is part of the way you define yourself.</p>EchtKultig commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee6e23967970d2013-01-03T00:38:15Z2013-01-03T00:38:15ZEchtKultig"Gay Catholics" are better off realizing that their church hates them, and what they stand for.<p>&quot;Gay Catholics&quot; are better off realizing that their church hates them, and what they stand for.<br />
</p>BobN commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d3f6d83c4970c2013-01-03T00:07:03Z2013-01-03T00:07:03ZBobNInteresting that gay-friendly masses in the UK lasted this long. JPII put an end to them in the U.S. in...<p>Interesting that gay-friendly masses in the UK lasted this long. JPII put an end to them in the U.S. in the 70s.</p>jamal49 commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c353e6e77970b2013-01-02T23:50:06Z2013-01-02T23:50:06Zjamal49And the hate goes on....<p>And the hate goes on....</p>Dan Cobb commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d3f6c50fc970c2013-01-02T21:13:08Z2013-01-02T21:13:08ZDan CobbIf the Catholic Church had REAL governmental power --a vile snoot like this cleric would be burning us at the...<p>If the Catholic Church had REAL governmental power --a vile snoot like this cleric would be burning us at the stake. Whenever the Catholic Church has had actual power, it has been savage.</p>
<p>Fight and resist this evil organization!</p>Bob commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d3f6c2311970c2013-01-02T20:55:04Z2013-01-02T20:55:04ZBob........And, as one gay friend who keeps hanging in there told me, "They will take communion away from me when...<p>........And, as one gay friend who keeps hanging in there told me, &quot;They will take communion away from me when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.&quot;</p>
<p>GUESS WHAT? IF YOU ARE PRESENT, YOU GIVE THEM AMMUNITION -- you are simply being selfish and lazy if you are not raising a huge fuss<br />
</p>Damien commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee6e07dfc970d2013-01-02T20:25:32Z2013-01-02T20:25:32ZDamienI once attended an (illicit) Dignity Mass in Washington, DC, where the liturgy was celebrated with full participation, where everyone...<p>I once attended an (illicit) Dignity Mass in Washington, DC, where the liturgy was celebrated with full participation, where everyone knew and sang the hymns with faith and fervor, where the Word of God was reverently read and wisely expounded, where the sacrament was celebrated in a dignified and fitting manner. There was nothing offensive to taste or to the dogmas of the church, and if there were, it was no more than you would find in most suburban parishes where the wealthy and self-centered gather each Sunday to congratulate themselves on their prosperity and on not being like other folks, you know, like those publicans and all. (Has anyone bothered to read the Pope&#39;s words about unregulated capitalism?) </p>
<p>I left thinking that the celebration had been what I imagine the Roman liturgy expects: prayerful, reverent, joyful, contemplative, communal. And yet that Mass was one that the cardinal would not permit to take place in a Roman Catholic building. The faithful, however, -- God must love them and wonder why on earth they put up with his so-called followers -- went ahead and celebrated anyway in a Protestant building that offered them welcome, a bit like a certain inn offered shelter to a pregnant woman and her spouse some years ago. You may have heard the story.</p>
<p>They celebrated because the Mass does not belong to the cardinal nor to the Pope nor to the local homophobic pastor. The Greek word from which &quot;liturgy&quot; derives means &quot;work of the people.&quot; It belongs to the people of God and to God. And, as one gay friend who keeps hanging in there told me, &quot;They will take communion away from me when they pry it from my cold, dead hands.&quot;</p>
<p>I cannot join them, but I do not see any reason to mock them. I think they know exactly what they are doing and why. And it is not bowing to the powers that Don&#39;t Be, but to the Power they seek to know beyond those false powers, the Power that exists to free and empower the weak, not to oppress them. Whatever they want to call it, whatever I want to call it, whatever anyone wants to call it, that is worth seeking. IMHO.</p>JM commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c353cfa6b970b2013-01-02T20:11:55Z2013-01-02T20:11:55ZJMUngodly, unchristlike, and a betrayal to those who would like to remain part of the RC church, it's time for...<p>Ungodly, unchristlike, and a betrayal to those who would like to remain part of the RC church, it&#39;s time for those of you who still give the RCs support, to wake-up! This disgraced, thoroughly shamed and vicious institution deserves zero support. From the days of John Chrysostom (4th c.), the first homophobe who equated homosexuals with murderers and as a vicious anti-semite coined the term &quot;Christ-killers&quot; for the Jews &amp; made it stick, to later &quot;doctors&quot; of the church such as Aquinas who called homosexuality &quot;unnatural&quot;, the war against gays has continued unabated. The Roman Catholic Church is a cursed institution. It&#39;s time to marginalize it for good.</p>danswon commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee6e069c2970d2013-01-02T20:11:19Z2013-01-02T20:11:19ZdanswonThis guy is a total d**khead. And probably a paedophile.<p>This guy is a total d**khead. And probably a paedophile.</p>John Normile commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c353ceffa970b2013-01-02T20:04:50Z2013-01-02T20:04:50ZJohn NormileWhy even bother with the blood on their hands Catholics.... Londoners can always go here and ALWAYs be accepted...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Community_Church_London<p>Why even bother with the blood on their hands Catholics.... Londoners can always go here and ALWAYs be accepted...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Community_Church_London</p>Bob commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee6e0531c970d2013-01-02T19:56:05Z2013-01-02T19:56:05ZBobwho still attend this evil church are who still attend this evil church are getting the point<p> who still attend this evil church are who still attend this evil church are getting the point</p>trees commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d3f6bc2a4970c2013-01-02T19:49:53Z2013-01-02T19:49:53Ztreeshttp://www.towleroad.com/2011/06/tina-fey.html#commentsI wonder why this priest does not try to emulate the life of Jesus? Would Jesus slam the door in...<p>I wonder why this priest does not try to emulate the life of Jesus? Would Jesus slam the door in the face of anyone?</p>don't let the door hit you on the way out commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017c353cd543970b2013-01-02T19:47:29Z2013-01-02T19:47:29Zdon't let the door hit you on the way outSo the few sycophants they could count on for support have now been kicked in the ass! Take the hint...<p>So the few sycophants they could count on for support have now been kicked in the ass! Take the hint fellas and move on.</p>
<p>(I suppose the closeted clergy are getting very nervous about where all this gay acceptance is going to lead. They want to keep their closet nice and cozy, just the way it is, no girls allowed, except to do the cleaning and cooking, a boys club, but the first rule is nobody admits they are gay, not in public, never in public.)</p>ratbastard commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d3f6b83d9970c2013-01-02T19:10:39Z2013-01-02T19:10:39ZratbastardLadies and gents: We've ALL been BRAINWASHED from birth by by various means ['education', ideological parent[s], etc., and for many,...<p>Ladies and gents:</p>
<p>We&#39;ve ALL been BRAINWASHED from birth by by various means [&#39;education&#39;, ideological parent[s], etc., and for many, myself included, this included organized dogmatic religion. Simply wash your hands of them. Excommunicate THEM from your life...they [and by they I mean ALL organized so-called religions, Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc., they ALL hold BIZARRE and IRRATIONAL beliefs] have caused and continue to cause great emotional, psychological and even physical suffering and death down through the centuries. I hope I live to see the day men and women everywhere finally recognize these frauds for what they are.</p>
<p>Remember, it&#39;s all about $ and control.</p>Matt26 commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee6e00dc6970d2013-01-02T19:09:26Z2013-01-02T19:09:26ZMatt26His message is clear and very sad. It is "stay away". I'm not Catholic (I'm Lutherian), but I still feel...<p>His message is clear and very sad. It is &quot;stay away&quot;. I&#39;m not Catholic (I&#39;m Lutherian), but I still feel The Catholic Church is taking steps to the wrong direction.</p>JackFknTwist commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017ee6dfeb0e970d2013-01-02T18:47:16Z2013-01-02T18:47:16ZJackFknTwisthttp://blogspot.comMy point being that the catholics have kicked away the ladder by which they climbed to accepance....and don't want others...<p>My point being that the catholics have kicked away the ladder by which they climbed to accepance....and don&#39;t want others using it.....least the sinful gays.</p>Vint commented on 'British Archbishop Puts Kibosh On Gay Mass In London'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341c730253ef017d3f6b3aec970c2013-01-02T18:24:08Z2013-01-02T18:24:08ZVintI don't think there's any linkage to "Catholic Emancipation". The established Church of England isn't doing any better in terms...<p>I don&#39;t think there&#39;s any linkage to &quot;Catholic Emancipation&quot;. The established Church of England isn&#39;t doing any better in terms of inclusiveness for interested gays and lesbians.</p>
<p>They&#39;re all just being &quot;Christian&quot;.<br />
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