March 15, 2015

On "Face the Nation" this morning, at the very end of the interview, Bob Schieffer asked: "Well, are you satisfied that there's anything else to find out about Benghazi?"

Cummings said: "I don't know. We have been at this now, Bob, since May. And I still don't know the scope of what we're looking for. I think there have been eight investigations. They have been done extremely well. And they — I think they have resolved most of the questions."

He could have said — like many Democratic Party partisans — that the matter has been thoroughly investigated and it's nothing more than partisan politics now. But he said "I don't know." Twice. And then he said "they have resolved most of the questions." Most. Most means not all. So clearly there are questions left.

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It would appear that Cummings is alluding to some very unpleasant revelations are about to come out and that somehow they will make Hillary look very bad and Obama will be portrayed as a 'victim' of her incompetence, mendacity or whatever.

This investigation would be over by now if dirtbag democrat criminals like Cummings weren't stonewalling the inquiries, obfuscating the information, and trying to cover-up the facts. Clearly they haven't buried the truth deep enough and that makes a crook and liar like Cummings unsure of himself.

And how can evolution be true if our rights and human specialness are implanted into embryos at the moment they are fertilized by a sperm?

Questions, questions. They never end. Only an insolent anti-Republican would believe debate to have ended at such crucial times as these. Only a partisan for the other side (not our side) would dare believe that an investigation should ever end. Especially before its political expediency has been exhausted.

So Dragola admits that he's incapable of reading studies. Good to know. And it makes a lot of sense.

Anyway, the subject was on how long to extend politically expedient investigations. But the goalposts of that question are too short for him. He can't deal with it. Oh, the non-partisan-ness of the question! How will he handle it!

Have to say, I find all of this fascinating. If the Obama camp is opening the attack on the Clinton campaign -- if -- then it seems likely they've got someone else in mind. I can't wait to see who that is.

R&B simply won't address the most salient point in evidence at this point regarding Benghazi: That we now know that key communications were hidden/withheld and thus, only a moronic partisan such as himself could argue the investigation has gone on too long.

If the R&B "policy" that the length of time alone is the criteria for ceasing investigations he has, unwittingly to be sure (I sense a theme) has handed the rationale for endless coverups to "run out the clock".

Well played.

I would opt for "red" pill next if I were you. Lets go for some variety.

But thanks for neglecting to deny that you've been misrepresenting me, while implying that I deserve to be misrepresented. I'll take that as a possible admission on your part that you either know you're doing it, or don't mind.

Elijah was is and always will be one slippery weasel. Some of the things he's said and done make a skunk smell good.

But Val Jar And the Lightworker have signaled that it's okay to go after Hillary, who has become the punching bag of the week. So Elijah will step right up and join the parade.

Don't get me wrong. Hillary is no sweet petunia; the stench of corruption, prevarication and all around nastiness hangs over her like the miasma from the Okefenokee Swamp. I wouldn't care if a Democrat partisan steamroller ran over her presidential ambitions.

But Elijah as suddenly ethical White Knight In the immortal words of Ms. Clinton her own nasty self, "That would require the willing suspension of disbelief." That's a bridge just a bit too far for my taste.

Surgeons get made fun of by other medical doctors all the time. You're totally missing the point and showing how stupid and out of your element you are. Go watch the original MASH movie and report back with more ignorance on what you failed to learn then.

If Later R&B were to encounter Earlier R&B, would a matter/anti-matter scenario emerge or has R&B so successfully segregated these "personalities" that they could meet and then go merrily on their way.

I've completed what I needed to do workwise in preparation for this week and this little excursion into R&B fantasy land where apparently it's okay for federal officials to hide/obscure/destroy evidence required under federal law should be shrugged off simply because a sufficient number of calendar pages has fallen off the wall.

I've completed what I needed to do workwise in preparation for this week and this little excursion into R&B fantasy land where apparently it's okay for federal officials to hide/obscure/destroy evidence required under federal law should be shrugged off simply because a sufficient number of calendar pages has fallen off the wall.

I actually asked, when you'll conclude that the specific investigation about Ben Ghazi has completed its course.

But now you bring up the problem of calendar pages. I guess that means decades won't be too long. Perhaps it could be continued after HRC's death, even.

At this point, even the limitation of lifespans might not be any object. There will always be windmills that require tilting.

Enjoy this break from your non-work time. You are much more qualified to answer these questions than me, though. More qualified to even ask them, it seems.

"Surgeons get made fun of by other medical doctors all the time. You're totally missing the point and showing how stupid and out of your element you are. Go watch the original MASH movie and report back with more ignorance on what you failed to learn then."

Actually, MASH, the movie, is one of the very few movies that are fairly realistic. Another is "The Doctor" with William Hurt and yet another is "The Hospital" with George C Scott.

Have to go with Insufficiently Sensitive's comment. Cummings has been stonewalling the whole way through this exercise and his answer is uncharacteristically ambivalent. Trouble is coming and the rats are looking for the exit.

1. The administration helped depose Khadafy in an undeclared unauthorized "kinetic action" and our only allies were European countries that were trying to secure oil supplies for corporate cronies. The result of Obama's war for European oil was a failed state.

2. We know it was al quaeda/affiliate that was thriving in the vacuum of the failed state caused by Obama's war for oil. The Obama administration knew immediately after the attack if not during the attack.

2. The administration chose to allow the consulate to be sacked and stopped the armed forces from interfering.

3. After the attack the administration covered for al quaeda and blamed the attack on a US citizen and a video he made. They did this for 2 weeks despite knowing who attacked the embassy and why.

4. Progressives don't care. Progressives are soulless husks. Hillary hid her email on private servers. Obama and hillary lied to your face for 2 weeks about the cause of Benghazi. They lied to the faces of the families of the fallen in benghazi. You accept this and support them still. Support for Obama amongst veterans is near single digits. There are many reasons we hate you. This is just one.

Oddly enough, I think he was born in the USA. Ergo, I'm not disputing his birth certificate.

Now, how about getting him to release his college records. You don't seal something as innocuous as your college records unless there is something to hide. So what's being hidden? the fact that he didn't get any better grades than W? his financial aid forms? how was his education paid for anyway?

Me thinks this is the result of the left wing of the Democratic party determining that Hillary is not for them. Many of those who have defended her to the death are no longer manning the gate with the same fervor.

Cummings is deeply implicated in several other scandals such as that of the IRS, where it seems likely that he was among those exerting influence on the IRS to operate illegally. The specific and blame-worthy failure of both the administration and the State Department, in the Benghazi matter, leaving aside US-Libyan policy in general, was to consistently refuse security reinforcements to the facility in Benghazi prior to the attack in spite of urgent requests from the ambassador and other informed parties. Problems and delays in the subsequent response are arguable, complicated by fog of war, speed of events, and communications, etc. As usual in these cases it is the role of the men on the spot to use their initiative and make decisions, as they did, and make the best of the situation their superiors have put them in. The Germans have a word for it, "auftragstaktik". This is to be expected in a war. Not every man on the spot will use initiative, but the best will.

But there were specific decisions made, at a high level, about security beforehand, with plenty of time for consideration. At this time it seems that this was decided as a matter of policy. The remaining questions are who decided and why. This was a failure caused by a specific person, in deciding "No".

"And was Obama born in Kenya? And where is his birth certificate? Such is the Republican approach to knowledge"

I have no more doubt that Obama was born in the USA than I doubt that Romney was born in the USA. There are people, doctors, nurses, etc., who assisted in the delivery that are still alive. Mixed black-white babies were not common in Hawaii in 1961.But I actually live in Hawaii. It's a very corrupt state. I also have no doubt that there are people here, born God only knows where, who have official Hawaii birth certificates. People have been caught selling, or forging, virtually every other form of government ID available here. CDL's, building permits, etc. When Obama laughs at the people who say he was born elsewhere, he really has no idea what the truth is. He can't remember where he was born, of course. It's hearsay to him just as it is to everyone else. If my father was a foreign national, and my mother was a globe-trotting anthropologist, I wouldn't have 100% confidence that my Hawaii birth certificate was real. But whatever.We do not Obama lies about his early childhood, for whatever reason. He keeps saying that his father left his mother when he was two years old. An example:"And I say all this as someone who grew up without a father in my own life. He left my family when I was two years old. And while I was lucky to have a wonderful mother and loving grandparents who poured everything they had into me and my sister, I still felt the weight of that absence. It’s something that leaves a hole in a child’s life that no government can fill."https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-a-fathers-day-eventObama was born in August, 1961, and his mother began classes at UW Seattle in Sept. 1961. Obama's father stayed in Hawaii where he attended UH Manoa. No one disputes this. There is no evidence that Obama's mother and father ever lived together as husband and wife.

I suspect there is a rather embarrassing family matter buried with the famous birth certificate. It was an scandalous thing in those days, an unmarried teenage white girl getting in the family way with a black man. The whole business smells like a coverup of something, but its very unlikely to be that B. Obama was born in Kenya, or whatever. People didn't blithely pop off across the world back then, just to start. It could be merely that a rather more acceptable black man (an intellectual young foreigner) was substituted, on paper, for the real one (suspects have been named) in order to limit controversy and damaged reputations all around.Whatever the soap opera premise is, it should not reflect on the child, who was of course innocent of the sins of his parents, and the probable duplicity of his grandparents. It may even be that B. Obama only found out the truth fairly recently. The liars in this case are all long dead.I agree about the corruption in Hawaii. Its long been run by its mafia.

I suspect there is a rather embarrassing family matter buried with the famous birth certificate. It was an scandalous thing in those days, an unmarried teenage white girl getting in the family way with a black man. The whole business smells like a coverup of something, but its very unlikely to be that B. Obama was born in Kenya, or whatever. People didn't blithely pop off across the world back then, just to start. It could be merely that a rather more acceptable black man (an intellectual young foreigner) was substituted, on paper, for the real one (suspects have been named) in order to limit controversy and damaged reputations all around.

The problem has long been that the birth certificate provided the public is demonstrably fake. Why? We don't know, just as we don't know how well Obama did in college, etc. A lot of his background was intentionally, expensively, and laboriously hidden from the American people.

I do think, at this late date, that the reason that a real birth certificate has never been provided is probably closer to what you are suggesting - his paternity. He doesn't look like the rest of the Obamas at all. I suspect, absent a better option, that his transcripts were locked up to obscure biographic information - possibly that he used a different name, or that he claimed to be foreign. Hopefully, someday, we will find out.

I do find R&B's approach interesting. Something akin to shaming. They never address the fact that the birth certificate provided was fake, or that Obama's transcripts were locked up from the public. Rather, we are supposed to feel embarrassed, or some such thing, because we don't accept the official, progressive, line. But, of course, if we did, we would be mindless progressives like R&B.

And, yes, you can see this sort of thing in his, and others, in regards to AGC/AGW/AGCC/Etc. Somehow, we are supposed to be cowed by the suggestion that we have not proven to him that we can read scientific papers. Or, some such mumbo jumbo. Essentially, that we are too dumb to understand the science.

But, for the most part, most of the people that we deal with on a day to day basis (even me, living by Boulder, home of much of the AGW movement, and a kid in the middle of it in grad school) understand less of the science than do many of the cynics. I always found it interesting that the high priest of Global Warming, AlGore, had received a C- and a D+ in his two, bonehead, science classes in college. John Kerry, his understudy, is, if possible, maybe even dumber about science than AlGore is. And, not even sure if Barack Obama II ever took a single science course in college. Maybe required core classes, but unlikely anything beyond that.

The problem for R&B, and his ilk, is that this sort of shaming is starting to backfire. More and more people recognize it for what it is - a refusal to engage on the merits, and a tacit admission that they either don't have the facts on their side, or aren't smart enough to make a compelling argument with them.

No, she didn't. She established an non-independent counsel and appointed Robert B Fiske, Jr., thus getting all investigations of Bill Clinton under the control of a lawyer whom Bill Clinton could trust, as I told Rush Limbaugh on the air, * with the idea that when a real independent counsel was established, the choice would be ratified by the 3 judges.

But they replaced him with Kenneth Starr.

Unfortunately, his ship was sinfiltrated by informers for Clinton (in his tetsimony Bill Clinton was about to refer to Monica Lewinsky's definition of sex, but caught himself - her testimony had not been released to him and he was not supposed to know it.)

I think also that Samuel Dashwas an informant for Clinton.

* I did get the person whom Fiske had protected from Giuliani a bit mixed up because I was speaking from memory too quickly - that was not a deliberate error. I should have said Robert E. Rubin.= and not Altman.

Blogger clint said...Have to say, I find all of this fascinating. If the Obama camp is opening the attack on the Clinton campaign -- if -- then it seems likely they've got someone else in mind. I can't wait to see who that is.

They are probably now thinking Moochelle is the one/won!

Just think if the school lunch program is extended to the general population.

Dustin said..."No, the Kenyan Birth Certificate thing originated during the 2007 democratic primary, and from Hillary's supporters who were upset at the surging Obama."

Specifically, a Pennsylvania lawyer called Philip Berg. And where did he get the idea? John McCain's enemies had tried to torpedo his nomination by claiming that his birth in the PCZ meant that he wasn't a natural-born citizen, a claim that Pat and I debunked thoroughly in three different posts on Stubborn Facts in (IIRC) late spring of that year. Who knows, maybe Berg read us back then. ;)

You seem to be suggesting that the birth certificate presented to the public was a replacement. Or, something like that. Which might be plausible. The problems with it being the original, in my understanding, is that it is a layered PDF, and in color. Layered PDF means that it wasn't scanned. Or, at least some of the layers weren't scanned. And, birth certificates, including in Hawaii, etc., in 1961 were black and white. Possibly the black and white are reversed from what that hospital was doing in 1961.

As I said above, I am not all that wedded to the narrative that the BC presented was fake, so fire away, and you may be able to convince me to the contrary. Some links, if you have them, might be nice.