Ummm! So what are those in pix? Sometimes on epay, look for jrhaines postings. Mission in IN might have. Some of those bands are like these, others have the loops on both ends, so there are diff ones, watch the pictures. Think the 4" is common size. If you have good steel bands yet, you can get them re-lined at a brake or clutch shop. I've had small tractor ones done and not that expensive.