Jezuz....... and I just noticed they now have the dogma with an aero shaped seatpost... so how do you actually tell the difference now?? Frankly I couldn't tell the difference for that Time. It shouldn't be suprising... they have fake SOUL bikes in China...

True dat. Pretty much every frame on ebay listed as OEM is a fake. I find it odd in a way that people fall for it - why on earth would the factories release frames as OEM at a small fraction of their normal price? It would make no business sense whatsoever.

You know how you can tell that it's fake, all TIME bikes have an integrated QUICKSET headset, I don't know how to describe it but Time is the only brand that does not need a compression wedge for the carbon fork. Well i'm talking about the 2011 & up models.But the lower ends back in the day need a compression wedge.

Also, base on the shape of the seat post does the chinese frame also come w/ the mold to cut off the seat post in the frame?

Yeah I had one of those, you crew it on with two needles, sort of a smart version of threaded headset.

Re fakes, it would be naive to think the "Fake dogma has round seatpost" rule will hold for long. Fakers are not that dumb. In the past it was time and cost barriers, but now as this business takes off like the fake LVs, they will soon have enough resources to crank out new models in no time (no R&D, just mock the moulds and it takes a few weeks at most).

In fact, I would not be surprised if a drill is CNC'ing the shape of a P5 into a block of metal mould at this very moment.

Frankly, if I could reach 1/3 of Yong's volume in my own real Falco frames, then I'd be really really happy.

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You know how you can tell that it's fake, all TIME bikes have an integrated QUICKSET headset, I don't know how to describe it but Time is the only brand that does not need a compression wedge for the carbon fork. Well i'm talking about the 2011 & up models.But the lower ends back in the day need a compression wedge.

Also, base on the shape of the seat post does the chinese frame also come w/ the mold to cut off the seat post in the frame?

it's surely a fake time， i know the manufacturer and i visit his factory when i was high school student， but i didn't love the manufacturer， nobody love the manufacturer in our country.let me tell you ， you can see fake“look” in no time， why？“look”is this manufacturer most interesting

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