360 + Pez Just Got Started

I like what ’60 tries to do. The beat is on some summer niceness that fits Melbourne’s current clime and makes for perfect background music. My gripes are;

1. If you’re going to have a sung hook, get someone who can sing. Might cost a dollar or two more but really, it matters.

2. What’s the point of having a guest/second artist if they add nothing. Srsly, pez could’ve handed the verse back to 360 instead of doing it himself and it wouldn’t have changed anything (I know, you guys had a good follwing off that one track together and could do with cashing in on that again.)

3. Could you not accentuate the last word on every line – or at least the rhyming ones. I get it, it’s rap, it’s supposed to rhyme, there’s no need to emphasize the words that do.

It’ll still do well, get radio play and upset the “rap purists” (which makes everything else forgiveable in my eyes), so well done ’60. And at least you’re bucking the local status quo, doing your own thing, just lay off posting youtube vids when you’ve had a big night on dust, that shit made me shiver.

edit- seems some people are catching feelings ove the heavy sample/appropriating the chorus from a whitest boy alive track.

maino, raps music has been sampling since it’s inception. just cause it’s not a 60’s soul hook doesn’t make it any less valid.

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me and pez always work together, we are a group.. so in a few years and hopefully after a number of successful singles/tours under our belt we plan to drop an album.. its all part of the big plan my bro

also, i sorta dont get what u mean by the accentuating the last word on every line.. ive seen u say it before to.. can you give me an example of a song where a rapper doesnt do that??

I’m not trying to blindly defend 360 but you make some average points,

the second one about Pez, I agree that it doesn’t add much depth to the song (Don’t get me wrong, i love Pez) but theyve done plenty of work together, have you not even heard of the forthwrite mixtape???

while I can agree with you on the chorus to some extent, I still think hes a decent singer, good enough to be singing on his tracks

this is what the reply was on ozhiphop.com
“>> 3. Could you not accentuate the last word on every line

this is about as Australian accent as you can get. ask almost anyone from overseas (especially New Zealanders) & they’ll say this is what they notice about the Australian accent. I didn’t notice it until I moved o/s and every second person pointed it out. now I hear it everywhere.”

it’s something non-australians really notice about australian raps to the point of where it becomes painful.

No offence man, but I have a few problems with this review. If you don’t like the song, that’s fine, but all this really just comes down to is you bitching about the Australian accent (I don’t think he’s over accentuating any words at all but then again I’m Australian. Whatever.), and complaining that Pez was on there – I guess it’s fair to say he doesn’t add a whole lot to the song, but he sure doesn’t take anything away either. I just don’t think either point was very valid or insightful.

Singing is a fair point; if you think he’s not a good singer, then sure, I get why you might not like the song.

my point was that pez doesn’t bring anything new to the track. you concede that point then argue that you didn’t like me saying it, even though you agree…

there is a stress on the last words. particularly the ones i talked about this with ’60, on ozhiphop.com

“around 39-44 secs the words you do that rhyme sound like you’ve made a pointed effort for them to get noticed. pez does it the whole time. figure out/different route being the lyric i remembered from just having it playing in the BG of my new music downloads.”

and the night on the dust thing is in reference to something else. it’s a relatively good natured jibe between the pair of us, don’t lose any sleep over it petal.

Sorry dude, I just don’t think the point you made about pez is relevant – my point is that he doesn’t detract from the song, therefore his verse isn’t a reason to not like the song as a whole. That’s all I really wanted to say, plus I just don’t hear the accented rhymes man, but I guess it’s just me.

Sorry for the misunderstand on the dust comment, obviously I didn’t understand it was a joke.

AaronFeb 04, 2011 @ 07:07:00

I don’t really agree to much with this..

I mean featuring Pez shows exactly what 60 just said, forthwrite!
May aswell see how well each of them will do solo then jump back together rather then ditching after one of them make it!

And I thought rap was about rhyming words,otherwise this song would just be straight up pop!!!

1. 60 sings the chorus and does the song justice.
2. Its a 60 and pez song, they are very similiar, but pez did bring it (no pun intended). Go look up forthwrite y’all!
3. Putting “emphasis” on the rhyming word is all part of the plan, its a technique every single hip hop artist uses.

nah. a lot of people with more relaxed flow don’t put a specific emphasis on rhyme sounds. look at most third coast artists. or a dude like Giggs. that motherfucker has a super relaxed flow.

And there’s nothig wrong with ’60 singing his own hook. fuck, a lot of the artists i like the most do it all the time. i think a different person, with a greater range + ability, would’ve added something to the track, not just by virtue of their prowess but also by breaking up the pez+60 combo a bit. which, to me can be a bit boring as they both sound similar.

dont care what anyone says, sixty always makes me piss my pants laughing. I like this song, just dont turn into one of those mainstream faggots that wears a suit and sunglasses in every clip.haaha…in regards to hitting the dust comment, thats someones personal decision.

quit ya bitching
every song has it’s faults you don’t need to exploit them just to have something to say about the song. there’s nothing wrong with giving feedback but some stronger more valid points would have been better.
dope song 60
peace

Its using a sample from / appropriating a contemporary song that makes it toy,,nothing to do with not having a 60s soul sample or hook or anything. Its cheesy to find a song that just came out and people still know to make the basis of your song. Karaoke shit. For a pop track its ok (better than most shit becauuse most shit is extra shit) but theres no skill or creativity to it. Meh track really.

biggie used the same juicy fruit sample that andre nickatina had already used for juicy. juicy fruit being a cheesy pop song that had just come out. but you already knew that and you hate on him for being a toy for doing that right…?

or maybe your perspective is all fucked up and you’re just being a hater cause it doesn’t fit into the pre-determined formula you have for what rap should sound like.

i bet you subscribe to the narrative that all real hip hop must sound like it’s made 15 years ago in NY.. which is some fantasy bullshit. and it would be tres homo if people just bit that style.

Dont understand whats really wrong with sixty singin on his own track, its showcasing what he can do on HIS song, getting someone else to sing is not showing what SIXTY can do, whether he has a big range or not … its HIS song, he is doing what he wants to do, which he states often and good for him …

Why does everybody want to label rap as pure or not?
60 does his own thing, and is bringing a new name to Aussie hip hop, he makes music, and music that is loved by his fans.
Even at big day out when Bliss and Eso gave shout outs to the aussie hip hop movement, people all around me were yelling “threesixty!” and “forthwrite bitch”.

And as for the “accentuating the last word on every line”, thats our accent, people do it in everyday speech… Its the Australian sound, if he changed where he emphasized, he would be putting on an accent and would be another keynote..

I just feel that this review lacks real constructive criticism, 60 is going places… check back in this time next year and he will be huge

this is a beautiful situation that 360 and pez are in!! having people share there opinions about what they shoulda coulda woulda done !!
AND what this means is 360 and Pez have made it ! They are the real deal !

Having you guys argue over their music this just creates more Buzz for Pez and 60 ! good or bad it dont matter! any publicity is good publicity !