Ex_Mil8 saidDid he say anything about this murdering US citizen having exercised his constitutional right to arm himself to the teeth? I bet he didn't.

The Boston Islamic Killers used bombs.

On 9/11 they used airplanes.

And yet:

Couple of points.

1. Your chart compares EVERY US CITIZEN with EVERY TERRORIST IN THE US. That's like comparing people killed in moving cars, to people killed by carbon monoxide poisoning inside garages. Totally irrelevant comparison.

2. How much good did the tough gun laws do in Paris?

Hmmmm????

3. Do your figures include.....- Stolen and black market weapons (guns laws no good)- People shot in self-defense and by police. (guns laws lead to MORE deaths)- Gangs and criminals (guns laws no good)- Suicides (guns laws no good)

....didn't think so.

4. Another liberal who assumes...- Criminals will obey gun laws- Black markets won't form.- Terrorists will not find another way to kill.

EVERY LEFT WING REGIME DISARMS ITS CITIZENS.....AND WHEN THAT DOESN'T WORK....TAKE YOUR FREEDOM TO SPEAK & ASSEMBLE.

1. Your chart compares EVERY US CITIZEN with EVERY TERRORIST IN THE US. FYI...it's like comparing people killed in moving cars to people killed by carbon monoxide poisoning inside garages. Totally irrelevant comparison.

2. How much good did the tough gun laws do in Paris?

Hmmmm????

3. Do your figures include.....- Stolen and black market weapons (guns laws no good)- People shot in self-defense and by police. (guns laws lead to MORE deaths)- Gangs and criminals (guns laws no good)- Suicides (guns laws no good)

....didn't think so.

4. Another liberal who assumes...- Criminals will obey gun laws- Black markets won't form.- Terrorists will not find another way to kill.

EVERY LEFT WING REGIME DISARMS ITS CITIZENS.....AND WHEN THAT DOESN'T WORK....TAKE YOUR FREEDOM TO SPEAK & ASSEMBLE.

Okay, if you want to ignore kids accidentally blowing their own brains out etc, let's look at homicides only. Terrorism murders still pale into insignificance when compared with firearms murders. Of course, it's a great distraction to focus on the foreign-inspired terrorism threat, while ignoring the reality of gun "terror" on your own doorstep.

And if you want to make the comparison between the gun toting "freedom-loving" US and gun-controlling "nasty liberal Europe":

1. Your chart compares EVERY US CITIZEN with EVERY TERRORIST IN THE US. FYI...it's like comparing people killed in moving cars to people killed by carbon monoxide poisoning inside garages. Totally irrelevant comparison.

2. How much good did the tough gun laws do in Paris?

Hmmmm????

3. Do your figures include.....- Stolen and black market weapons (guns laws no good)- People shot in self-defense and by police. (guns laws lead to MORE deaths)- Gangs and criminals (guns laws no good)- Suicides (guns laws no good)

....didn't think so.

4. Another liberal who assumes...- Criminals will obey gun laws- Black markets won't form.- Terrorists will not find another way to kill.

EVERY LEFT WING REGIME DISARMS ITS CITIZENS.....AND WHEN THAT DOESN'T WORK....TAKE YOUR FREEDOM TO SPEAK & ASSEMBLE.

Okay, if you want to ignore kids accidentally blowing their own brains out etc, let's look at homicides only. Terrorism murders still pale into insignificance when compared with firearms murders. Of course, it's a great distraction to focus on the foreign-inspired terrorism threat, while ignoring the reality of gun "terror" on your own doorstep.

And if you want to make the comparison between the gun toting "freedom-loving" US and gun-controlling "nasty liberal Europe":

^^^^^ Charts above perfectly illustrate how LIBERALS LIE and DECEIVE.

Here's how....

1. Out of hundreds of countries, you cherry pick 11 to make it look like a problem.

2. What happens when Mexico is added? Mexico gun murder rate is 5x HIGHER than the US.

4. Illegal drugs kill more people than guns.. Government can't control Drug Dealers on every corner....how will they control the Black Market that will develop if guns are banned? Honest citizens will fear breaking the law....but criminals won't. Bad combination.

1. Terrorists are trying to kill more of us, cars and cigarettes aren't. That chart could easily read 3 billion if they got their hands on a deadly virus or a stock pile of nukes.

2. Yes idiot faux liberals are sacrificing gays and women's rights and free speech on the altar of multiculturalism because they are dumb and don't even know what liberalism is.

3. Republicans are anti-gay. Even if idiot fake liberals aren't fighting for gay rights hard enough abroad, that doesn't change the fact the republicans would be outlawing homosexuality if they thought they could get away with it.

When you write something like "democratic left is dishonest and anti-gay" it's clear you are trying to make some distinction to the values of the right. The right is perpetually dishonest and anti-gay on virtually every issue the requires honesty and equal rights.

4. Illegal drugs kill more people than guns.. Government can't control Drug Dealers on every corner....how will they control the Black Market that will develop if guns are banned? Honest citizens will fear breaking the law....but criminals won't. Bad combination.

I didn't "cherry pick" the countries set against which the US has an appalling gun murder rate. The countries were listed in their order of ranking on the OECD Human Development Index, where they rank near the top of the "very high" category. In other words, they are all countries with very similar levels of of life expectancy, education, and income per capita. Mexico doesn't even feature on the "very high" list.

You were criticizing me for using the stats for all gun deaths in the US and now you're trying to fall back on deaths by "falling", "traffic accidents" and "drug overdoses". Make your mind up.

As usual, conservatives - like you and Trollo Yiannopoulos - want to bitch about Muslims and Europe and anything else that will distract from the shitting elephant in America's own front room - the problem of gun violence.

4. Illegal drugs kill more people than guns.. Government can't control Drug Dealers on every corner....how will they control the Black Market that will develop if guns are banned? Honest citizens will fear breaking the law....but criminals won't. Bad combination.

I didn't "cherry pick" the countries set against which the US has an appalling gun murder rate. The countries were listed in their order of ranking on the OECD Human Development Index, where they rank near the top of the "very high" category. In other words, they are all countries with very similar levels of of life expectancy, education, and income per capita. Mexico doesn't even feature on the "very high" list.

Mexico is our neighbor. The border is very open. Guns are very easy to get there. Black markets grow in proportion to the illegality/unavailability/demand of an item. Do the math. Who will be most negatively impacted by more gun laws....law abiding citizens needing self-defense, or criminals?

You were criticizing me for using the stats for all gun deaths in the US and now you're trying to fall back on deaths by "falling", "traffic accidents" and "drug overdoses". Make your mind up.

The US has the 3rd highest death rate from drugs in the entire world. Drugs kill more people than guns, and drugs are illegal....which raises serious questions about the effectiveness of contraband laws.

Its the FBI who does gun purchase background checks. Why didn't Obama issue an Executive order requiring the FBI to flag anyone who has already been investigated for terrorism in the event they make a future gun purchase?

Perhaps Obama was too busy signing a law to give himself armed Secret Service protection for life or too busy giving his "Good Friend", the Sultan of Brunei (who stones gays to death) a free trade deal.

mx5guynj saidIts the FBI who does gun purchase background checks. Why didn't Obama issue an Executive order requiring the FBI to flag anyone who has already been investigated for terrorism in the event they make a future gun purchase?

Perhaps Obama was too busy signing a law to give himself armed Secret Service protection for life or too busy giving his "Good Friend", the Sultan of Brunei (who stones gays to death) a free trade deal.

The FBI director opposed such an action, because the denial of a purchase in the absence of other factors would let the purchaser know that he was on some sort of restricted list.

This would interfere with an active investigation. The buyer now keeping a low profile and would stop communications with others who the FBI might be interested in.

The Loretta Lynch head of the DOJ, a political appointee, overruled this.

Probably not, which doesn't alter the fact that gun homicides in the UK, where gun controls are among the most stringent in the world, are a fraction of those in the US, where gun possession is a "constitutional right".