Comments on: Second look at gay marriage and legalizing weed?http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/11/16/republicans-in-a-changing-country/
Headlines from the Hot Air authorsSun, 02 Aug 2015 20:23:12 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.5By: nokarmaherehttp://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/11/16/republicans-in-a-changing-country/comment-page-2/#comment-2192203
Sat, 17 Nov 2012 04:49:23 +0000http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=228945#comment-2192203It may be rude to repeat myself but I will because no one has addressed:

Rather than get upset about gay marriage why not just remove the government’s incentives to “marry”? The gay issue comes about because the government recognizes and provides privileges to a subset of the population based on marital status. The government discriminates against people who are “single” to encourage marriage for the purpose of procreation and the sustainability of the population. There is no reason to allow this favoritism to attach to the religious concept of marriage. Marriage needs a divorce from government. Let the gays contract between each other for whatever sort of things they want to contract for. If the government doesn’t get involved in marriage i.e. it is a contractual matter then religious freedom is preserved.

To add on, gay marriage is something that was propelled mostly by the dysfunctional employer based healthcare situation we have now. Conservatives are good at tracing government disincentives as well as the relationships between the letter of law and the law of reality. Gay marriage is a fundamental blind-spot. If you see gay marriage as a religious abomination then oppose it by removing any incentive for gay people to marry.

Why is it that gay-sex liberal bigots like yourself won’t actually help gay people? Why do you have to use us as excuses for your proxy war against Christians, bigot?

northdallasthirty on November 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Sex has nothing to do with anything. Why are you even going there?

I have nothing at all against Christians; don’t put words in my mouth. I do have something against bigots and not all Christians are bigots. Somewhere around 70% of the people under 34 are in favor of gay marriage (and are all gay themselves according to some of the more embarrassing things thrown out in this thread so far) and I’d bet a majority of them are Christians. I have no problem whatsoever with them or their faith. Where I do start to take issue is with people who don’t believe in the Constitution that I cherish and revere, or who only believes in it when it’s convenient for them. The United States is a Constitutional republic and not a theocracy yet some people appear to be in favor of throwing the Constitution out the window if it says something that runs counter to their personal religious beliefs. It doesn’t work that way.

Your whole premise is based on your personal, arbitrary definition of what is deviant, unless of course you want to get really liberal with what “deviant” means.

alchemist19 on November 16, 2012 at 10:29 PM

Actually, it is not. Check a dictionary.

If you were a patient in a hospital you could be bothered if a lesbian couple were allowed to spend time together before one of them died? How do you have that kind of time in your life that you can worry about things like that?

Even if I accepted your “most likely” premise, which I do not, even one example would be too many.

alchemist19 on November 16, 2012 at 10:32 PM

It doesn’t matter what I want or find objectionable – it’s about whether medical staff finds certain behaviors inimical to the well-being of their patients. Like I said, it’s up to the hospital. Nobody needs to specify their relationship to a patient in order to visit the patient. The only time there might be a problem is when the visitor is trying to do something other than visit.

And I’m glad one is too many for you. Neither of us is king so we don’t get to say. BTW, Sutherland’s Statutory Construction will teach you how to read the law and Restatements will teach you what the law is.

Funny how libertarians rail on about how there is no difference between the democrat party and the GOP, then in the next breath demand that the GOP adopt the democrat’s social platform in it’s entirety.

Funny.

Rebar on November 16, 2012 at 10:32 PM

I have a very strong libertarian streak (obviously) but I see plenty of difference between the Democrat Party and the GOP. The Democrats are full blown Loony Toon socialsts, the GOP just needs to apply the limited government concepts they say they believe in. That’s why I vote straight ticket Republican. And from the looks of things you guys need all the help you can get.

Red herring! Hospitals are private property and can deny access to anyone they want. Especially if not excluding someone would disturb the other patients.

Plus, your dying partner is most likely in a hospice already and every hospice that caters to “gays” already has arrangements with hospitals that will admit loved ones.

Grow up and stop lying.

platypus on November 16, 2012 at 10:27 PM

If you were a patient in a hospital you could be bothered if a lesbian couple were allowed to spend time together before one of them died? How do you have that kind of time in your life that you can worry about things like that?

Even if I accepted your “most likely” premise, which I do not, even one example would be too many.

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Sat, 17 Nov 2012 03:32:03 +0000http://hotair.com/headlines/?p=228945#comment-2192122Funny how libertarians rail on about how there is no difference between the democrat party and the GOP, then in the next breath demand that the GOP adopt the democrat’s social platform in it’s entirety.