...IF u don't like Canon strategy or product's there is an alternative solutions & it is good as Canon just no need to stick with it & complain how bad they are.

I can complain all I want... and I will give my opinion, and my opinion of your opinion. And I will stick with Canon and the products that make sense and are relatively well priced. This is not it, and I will, as I see fit, complain about it wherever I want!

If you don't want to read my complaints, don't read them, but don't tell me not to complain.Rafa.

those who say canon L glass holds value better... I dont think that is true for new lenses.

when 24-70 II was launched, it was going for around 19K HKD (here in hong kong)Now, it is around 16K HKDDifference is around 390 USD

Difference between launched price and current price of tamron 24-70 is less than 1000 HKD (one third)

Someone who bought new tamron and is not happy and want to switch to canon version now or few months down the road... is better off compared to those who bought new canon after launch.

I wonder how much this one will drop in price and how soon...

True, I already see 24-70 2.8 II used sitting for sale at $1900 which is $500 off the intro price of just two months ago and not selling at even that. Early adopters can expect substantial losses in value with the new products in just a few months. It's not like it used to be.

...IF u don't like Canon strategy or product's there is an alternative solutions & it is good as Canon just no need to stick with it & complain how bad they are.

I can complain all I want... and I will give my opinion, and my opinion of your opinion. And I will stick with Canon and the products that make sense and are relatively well priced. This is not it, and I will, as I see fit, complain about it wherever I want!

If you don't want to read my complaints, don't read them, but don't tell me not to complain.Rafa.

Apparently you are a complainer & you like the useless debates, Complain whatever you want about Canon, me, my comments with yourself but please stop filling the forums with you moaning posts.

I assume this will eventually be a kit lens option for the 6d - we'll see how the price shakes out after that. Current price of $1500? Really? Thats crazy.

Just because you cannot afford it or not willing to buy it at that price now does not mean it is "crazy" ... many of us bought 5DMK III at $3499 ... now the price has dropped, but we bought the camera when we wanted/needed it, so those who bought it at that price are not crazy ... 24-70 f/4 IS too will have many takers who need such a lens now ... generally people who wait for several months or years for the price to drop are the ones who do not really need that product.

Just because you cannot afford it or not willing to buy it at that price now does not mean it is "crazy" ... many of us bought 5DMK III at $3499 ... now the price has dropped, but we bought the camera when we wanted/needed it, so those who bought it at that price are not crazy ... 24-70 f/4 IS too will have many takers who need such a lens now ... generally people who wait for several months or years for the price to drop are the ones who do not really need that product.

I think he is just trying to express himself so no point criticizing him and I feel camera body price drops are not comparable to lens price drop...

I, myself, have bought many products just after release but I think that generally people who wait for whatever reasons (except some constraints due to which they cannot buy)1. may have more patience than me 2. they are better placed than me to buy product with wide reviews/real-life-feedback3. they may even get other options to select from4. price drop is always welcome

...IF u don't like Canon strategy or product's there is an alternative solutions & it is good as Canon just no need to stick with it & complain how bad they are.

I can complain all I want... and I will give my opinion, and my opinion of your opinion. And I will stick with Canon and the products that make sense and are relatively well priced. This is not it, and I will, as I see fit, complain about it wherever I want!

If you don't want to read my complaints, don't read them, but don't tell me not to complain.Rafa.

Apparently you are a complainer & you like the useless debates, Complain whatever you want about Canon, me, my comments with yourself but please stop filling the forums with you moaning posts.

I think his point is that he has every right to post on this forum as you do. But you seem to want to dictate that only posts favourable to Canon and its products and pricing strategy are sanctioned here.

It always amazes me when people would do and say things that are against their best interest. Now, don't we all want high quality, innovative Canon products at the lowest possible prices? Unless you are a Canon employee or shareholder, we should all be on the same side. But think about what you're doing, Canon introduces a lens twice as expensive (current street price) as a similar lens, with less focal length and as yet undetermined quality. When enough people rush in to pay what Canon demands, the bean counters are going to say to themselves: "Hey, we price this thing $400 more than we should, but people buy them anyway. Guess we should price all future lenses really, really high!" On the other hand, if all Canon hears is, as you call it, moans and complains, maybe, just maybe, they will be more realistic next time they try to price their products into the stratosphere.

...IF u don't like Canon strategy or product's there is an alternative solutions & it is good as Canon just no need to stick with it & complain how bad they are.

I can complain all I want... and I will give my opinion, and my opinion of your opinion. And I will stick with Canon and the products that make sense and are relatively well priced. This is not it, and I will, as I see fit, complain about it wherever I want!

If you don't want to read my complaints, don't read them, but don't tell me not to complain.Rafa.

Apparently you are a complainer & you like the useless debates, Complain whatever you want about Canon, me, my comments with yourself but please stop filling the forums with you moaning posts.

So, if someone does not share your unconditional love for Canon products and provides some valid critique, it makes him a complainer?

Having seen Rafa's contributions in other forums, I can testify that he def is not one. He has just as much right to be skeptical about the lens as you may be excited about it. I personally tend to agree with Rafa on his points. Telling him to "stop filling the forums with you moaning posts" is rude, to say the least. I mean, you wouldn't want to be told to "stop your extolling drivel", would you?

From a reliable source - Roger Cicala (lensrentals.com) tests 22 copies, concludes for sharpness the 24-70/4L IS is second to the 24-70/2.8L II of 5 lenses covering that range, and better than the 24-105L, entirely consistent with the MTF charts of the lenses.

He also concludes that the Tamron 24-70 VC makes a lot of sense...

As for the German review site's conclusion, well, their data seem like a steaming pile of...schnitt.

...Canon introduces a lens twice as expensive (current street price) as a similar lens, with less focal length and as yet undetermined quality. When enough people rush in to pay what Canon demands, the bean counters are going to say to themselves: "Hey, we price this thing $400 more than we should, but people buy them anyway. Guess we should price all future lenses really, really high!" On the other hand, if all Canon hears is, as you call it, moans and complains, maybe, just maybe, they will be more realistic next time they try to price their products into the stratosphere.

Yes! +1 ... the market suffers a lot from the unconditional early adopters that will pay whichever price. Mind it, I don't consider early adopters that (as correctly depicted by Rienzphotoz) either want or actually NEED the product (I'm sure it was the case for many with the 5DmIII!) 'crazy', at all!. Every one has their reasons behind their purchases... many would be working photographers that can pay off the higher price tag with a few jobs, others may be really wealthy and price is not an issue at all. But I believe its a fact that introductory prices are over-inflated because of those type of buyers which affects the overall price of the product (and, in some degree, allows for lesser innovation or poorer design as a product will still make a profit and sell like hotcake, be it the next wonder or not).

Thanks friends for all the support! Thanks specially @roguewave ... and, by the way: who are you? (I couldn't find a PM system here to ask privately!)

Best regards,Rafa.ps. It appears the resolution quality of the lens is a bit bellow the f2.8 mII and a good 10% above the 24-105, lets see how it fares in real life pictures, but these early tests do show an improvement.