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METS CHAT ROOM: Game #75; it’s not getting any easier.

After being swept by the Yankees the Mets are in Milwaukee tonight to begin a series against the Brewers. It won’t get any easier.

And, it is going to stay rough for a long time because Jose Reyes and Carlos Delgado aren’t back any time soon, and Carlos Beltran could be out a little longer. They simply don’t have any chips to deal.

120 thoughts on “METS CHAT ROOM: Game #75; it’s not getting any easier.”

They have chips, it’s just a question of whether it makes sense to trade them when a.) the aforementioned players are due back this year and b.) the Phils aren’t exactly running away with the division.

To use an analogy, the Mets have several suits at the cleaners; should they buy more in the interim or wait for the others to come back?

Annie, if you ever come on board tonight, note that I just discovered this game is being shown on ESPN (which seems kind of odd, because I thought games were blacked out in the local market, but I’m able to watch it on both SNY and ESPN).

Hi Jeff (2) Surprise for me – ESPN is actually televising this game tonight for my cable station. re: Wright – I heard one of the announcers comment about his high batting average, but not mentioning his low HR production.

Jeff M (9) Of course Ron is better, but without SNY I only see him on PIX. However, I have read his book,”The Complete Game” and a friend has said he will give me his copy to keep. Have you read it? It’s great.

Annie – i wonder how much is jerry poor mgt. compared to players trying to do to much and getting ahead of themselves mind – passes body – in addition to inexperienced players and players out of position – so of these guys have no business in the majors and not only are they key players but their out of position and the regulars who are left are pressing

John (24) Yes, I know, but what I really want to do/see here is WFAN’s coverage and ESPN’s coverage at the same time – however TV operates with a delay that is very annoying when radio gives you the game in real time.

I don’t care what Wright’s average is…I’ll take his previous MO where he hit .300-310 but had more HR’s and, more importantly struck out much less. He flat is a crap hitter right now and his .340 average is the most hollow stat I’ve ever seen.

we’ve lost 10 games this month by 3 or less runs – thats one more bat and we win half those – this is on Omar for his failure to make a deal for the third year in a row – I’m tired of hearing there are no good delas out there while every other team bolsters themselves

(37) they’ll be too far behind by then – this will be over – the time was to make a deal when the braves did when about 10 teams thought they were out of it – the slump the Phillies were in we’d be up by five and could coast when they got hot while we waited for injuries – now there back on track and we have nothing – mark my words I was right that Murphy in left was a mistake and waiting for injuries will be a mistake

Edfever (41): The key thing he should be hammered for is the fact that he didn’t try to improve this offense in the offseason. They had all their “core” healthy and still couldn’t win anything. Take with that the fact that they are going into the most poorly designed playing field and it’s a bad combo. That’s been Omar’s MO since ’06. He tries to fix the previous season’s issue but fails to see the obvious underlying one that was there all along.

Annie (52): I have no problems with how Citi Field is designed. It is the players playing in it that is the problem. Before it is over the power numbers will even out. Don’t forget, much of the Met power numbers are because of Delgado and Beltran being out, and Wright’s swing being hijacked.-JD

(46) I agree Lowe, Hudson, Dunn, Ohman cost him 15-20MM more which is what five home games factoring everything in…those players and were fine despite the injuries.. but he’s enven worse in season – he never makes a trade – he’s living off his expos rep.

John (54) OK, I’m talking about a retractible roof for both Citi Field and the New Yankee Stadium. Remember that 5 hour rain delay at the stadium? and the delays at Citi Field all during the rainy month of June? It just makes sense.

Two runs… that’s probably it for the night. It’s almost time for me to watch The Closer. No, not K-Rod; the one on TNT. But I’ll be checking in to see how many more runs the Mets give up to put it out of reach.

Two runs… that’s probably it for the night. It’s almost time for me to watch The Closer. No, not K-Rod; the one on TNT. But I’ll be checking in to see how many more runs the Mets give up to put it out of reach.”

JD- we have a left fielder and we have enough to make it through these injuries – I’m still fuming that they tried to sell us on Murphy – and before im called a monday morning heres what I said in oct.

this is all on Omar – he’s going to get a passs because of the injury excuse – but this is more then injuries – major league team depth, upper levels of the farm and ability to make inseason adjustments

(97) Yes, DW came through with his first RBI since Beltran went on the DL. And Sheffield came through with a 2-run HR. And Church got a hit. And yet it’s still 10-6, because if the Brewers didn’t have 10 runs they never would have gotten those pitches to hit.

Every good trade hurts both sides – thats just the fact of doing business – you make trades to fill needs and as long as the player you recieve fills that need then you cant complain about the other guy thriving

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Ed
But that is the farm system Omar inherited.
It was horrible.
While they do not go out of slot the spend a lot of money in Latin America. The problem with that is when you sign 16 year olds it takes 5 years before you might even see any results.
Look at F-Mart I believe he was signed in 2005
He is still only 20 and he really does not belong in the majors.

(113) Steve C: No team could withstand the amount of injuries that the Mets have had and still be expected to play winning baseball. Given that ,Manuel is still a lousy manager and nothing is going to change that. It is Omar’s fault too because he doesn’t have the farm system to bring up decent replacements. Instead he has to go with guys like Wilson Valdez, and Argenis Reyes because there isn’t any minor league depth.

Back in april it was stated that Omar builds a team that can withstand ZERO injuries. What a great evaluation. Good orgs like the Sox have something at least average to come up and hold the fort down for a while. The Mets, outside of the so-called “core” is average at best at the rest of the positions and the farm is horrible at best to fill in holes for a while.
And what a field manger, happy to turn all his regulars into opposite field singles hitters…. Result. Wright, 4 HRs and less and less RBIs as time goes by. Church 2 HRs all of 18 RBIs. WOW! Minor leaguer Argenis Reyes batting lead off while professional lead off hitter Castillo sits in 8 hole. Why watch when Manager raises white flag hours before game with his lineup.

(115) Harry: I don’t know of any dumber move than batting Argenis Reyes leadoff. I was watching the movie Slap Shot last night and there was a line that Paul Newman said to the owner regarding the Hansen Brothers which reminded me so much of Omar. “Every piece of garbage that comes into the league you have to pick up.”

I think it’s time to change the manager and at the end of the season the General Manager. Unfortuately, the Wilpons will use injuries as the excuse to keep both of them overlooking the fact that Omar IS a poor talent evaluator and Manuel is an awful tactical manager.

We have dealt with injuries before. I dont want us to be like the Yankees falling back on injuries as a reason for losing.
I have seen some really decent ball, until of course Manuel decides to change the formula. why? i dont know.. if you catcher is hot why take him out? if your fielders are actaully fielding why would you go back to a platoon. Where are the hit and runs?

I tried to like Manuel, but he does nothing he says he will do, he has not rewarded consistently nor has he punished consistently.

He has been consistent at being inconsistent. And Omar needs to take the blame. Poor choices all around and the injuries could have been fixed he he jumped on the players better. as soon as a player looks injured you have him checked out.

You have to have a team with built in redundancies. But this is all 20-20 hindsight.

Manuel has to keep the seasoned guys in the game. and call on some hustle. I wish Wright would turn the bat around but it doesnt appear to happen. :-\

maybe we need keith and Ronnie to really come out of the booth and help save this team. :-\

At least Beltran got some positive news today. The docs didn’t recommend surgery, just rest thru the AS break. You know, sometimes the year isn’t your year. This is one of those for the Mets. In 1972 the team started out 30 and 11 and then got ravished by injuries. Same in 1987 when the entire staff pretty much was out and they weren’t able to come fully back to win. Sometimes, it isn’t your year.

Dont forget in 87 not only injuries but since they were winners, they were being sold off for money! because for some reason the franchize didnt want to win 2 years in a row. I think they had pressure from the Yankees not to win. Yankee attendance suffered that year they were all at shea.