>>119554748Probably by using the other two in the picture somehow. Going to wildly guess someone's using the Baryon Lance, not necessarily Tatsuya, maybe it suits someone else better, like Minoru maybe since it's based off Lina's magic. There is no way Tatsuya is going to remain unknown after this ordeal though.

>>119556196It seems like it sets up the potential for inner clan strife before the 10 MC selection with Tatsuya used as an excuse. Honestly, it was kind of waiting to happen the minute Mitsugu started making side comments about Maya and then his pretentious meeting with Miyuki in Volume 13 just made it seem like not everyone was thrilled by how stuff is going in the clan. At least with the other clans the other families from the same lab have a chance to make the 10 MC on their own since you can have duplicate numbers so it's on them to get more recognition rather than have to undermine the other current lab family.

>>119556357The spy was sent by the 101 or JSDF we have no indication the Yotsuba sent one aside from Minami reporting back and Hayama keeping tabs. I honestly don't get why people insist on the spy theory for her especially since the kanji is also different. I think we know little about her because she's meant to be a background character to support Miki not a spy.

>>119560186He can use ancient and modern magic but is weak physically and sickly at times, missing school and being bed ridden. When he's fine he's top tier on par with the rest of the elites. He's not expected to live as long which is why he studies to be an artificer rather than military route. His father created him from his sperm and his sister's egg in efforts to create an ultimate magician with Kudou genes.

>>119559753He wasn't invited to the party. Blame Mayumi. She wanted to "investigate" with Tatsuya instead.

I haven't seen this posted on here yet, but when Mayumi goes to see Tatsuya at first high, both Miyuki and Izumi get annoyed about it. Izumi calls Miyuki onee-same as opposed to ane, showing much more respect for Miyuki. Tatsuya also turns Mayumi down a few times before agreeing to help her saying he does not have the means and resources to investigate. Mayumi says she suspects her father and can't rely on her clan, this is more of a personal thing for her own self. Tatsuya agrees to help after thinking to himself it coordinates well with the Thesis Competition so both agree to meet again in Kyoto and resume citing the competing as a pretext. When Tatsuya comes back from talking with her, Miyuki is visibly pissed and asks what she wanted. Tatsuya asks Izumi if she cares that he spoke to her sister. Izumi says she doesn't care what her sister does.

>>119562146Zhou has the backing of Black Sage and Tatsuya suspects he will be sending additional henchmen from the mainland as a surprise. Even if they kill Zhou, he thinks someone else will show up right after and he needs support with that. Keep in mind that Tatsuya is hunting Zhou on his own without the 101st and any resources from the Yotsuba since it's a test of loyalty for him. Yakumo snd Miki's clan are busy guarding the thesis hall. Kudou are handling the ancient magicians.

>>119561968 Ichijou has the same task as Tatsuya, to kill Zhou Gongjin. Zhou is now known to have been involved in Yokohama. Since they have the same objective they team up instead. The Kudou have been targets of the ancient magicians.

>>119562840Mari seems to think otherwise too. Besides, Katsuto spoke to Mayumi first when it dealt with her father and the magician propaganda. He's not in it to be a dick which is why he discussed it with her as friends first rather than flat out expose Koichi and make accusations. Juumonji also helped during the parasite outbreak with Lina.

Not saying Tatsuya is unfit for the job but it's pretty obvious there's more to it than just he's competent.

>>119562840She could have told Katsuto or Hattori and it would have been just as discreet. You can't ask personal favors of other clans so it would be her strictly asking the individuals out of friendship. Considering she suspects Tatsuya is an extra from the Yotsuba by your logic she's also giving away family problems for later use to him. If you honestly don't think she picked him for more reasons than to be discreet you are blind.

>>119563628I think she just wants to screw him to screw him, nothing to do with the Yotsuba. Bitch is in denial she's wet for him but she's fooling nobody at this point. She suspects he's a Yotsuba extra (so basically ousted former member that lost the number like Suzune and Nakura) not a Yotsuba. Also, her father's interest in the Shiba siblings makes her have this idea of them being Yotsuba extras.

>>119563608Not to the Chinese, but to the other 10 MC clans for politics. Koichi is in denial if he thinks his daughter is that much of a commodity and bargaining chip. Not seeing any clans jumping on having her except for Mio Itsuwa really wanting her to marry her brother before she dies.

>>119563962I feel bad for Hattori too. Literally nobody wants him and Mayumi used him as a tool whenever she didn't feel like dealing with the SC grunge work. Morisaki has more love than Hattori. Even Shippou almost slept with an actress.

>>119564510Spic translations of the dengeki preview just mentioned Miyuki and Izumi being pissed about it and Miyuki asking Tatsuya what she wanted when he returned from talking to her. Mayumi showing up at 1st high and wanting an audience with Tatsuya caused an influx of rumors and murmurs from other students too. Nothing about actual freezing but that's the usual pattern with Miyuki getting angry in the SC room.

>>119564285Y'know, I think that you're right. I can't think of a single other imouto in this series who doesn't have a complex for an individual who can in at least some sense be viewed as their older sibling.

>>119565493Yeah or even younger brother. His other novel has a onee-san and Kyoko is his favorite here. You can argue there's some chemistry with Kyoko and Tatsuya, if it makes Miyuki raise an eyebrow there's something afoot. Brother complexes all around.

Hey guys I have spoilers for Mahoka vol 15, bad guys show up, onii-sama farts out his new reality warping magic from hiss ass in their general direction and most of them die, the minor characters take care of the leftover bad guys. Onii-sama has saved glorious Japan once again, that was chapter one, the rest of the novel is the whole school schlicking and fapping to onii-sama.

>>119567184You are right. 3d year cant be a president. Miyuki, Honoka and Tatsuya will leave SC next year.>>119567124Anyway its so strange. Mahouka is his single project and he worked on it with sashiko many years. I hope that there will be some news from him or sashiko about project.

Niponese are saying that Mayumi actually found out about Tatsuya and Miyuki being related with Yotsuba main house and confirmed that Tatsuya and Miyuki do not share the same mother and most likely not even brothers .

>>119567898At this point, hope some other translators develop an interest. The series gets such a bad rep on here that not many are willing to spend the time on it. Most things are just glorifying Tatsuya and waifu wars. It's also really technical with the magic.

>>119571569I mean that all the speculation of that 2ch thread comes from those few pages released by dengeki a few days ago. the thread is full of people building shit over an ambiguous line of hayama, some interpreting it as maya being a little dere and some others as tatsuya being closer to her than a nephew. nobody has got his hands on the new volume yet (and the thread doesn't even allow spoilers)

>>119572225It's like /a/ and any major publication we discuss regularly. Goes to show just how massive the actual fanbases are when you've got a few dozen non buyers for every buyer.If only dengeki would put up the goddamm book on digital retailers, but no those Amazon sheckels are far too precious.

>>119572225It's not even noon in Japan. Unless they have 24/7 bookstores with people lined up to buy it, the postman probably hasn't even made deliveries. Give it like 5 hours to start expecting legitimate posts about it.

>>119572129>>119572225those who have it are to probably too busy reading it to post on 2ch. anyway I think someone will open a spoiler thread sooner or later (or maybe use same thread, I think they have a timed period of spoilers ban to observe)

>>119573029She may not want to be head of the Yotsuba if she finds out it's just a gimmick to imprison Tatsuya further and control them. I don't think that would make her happy considering she'd be pressured by the side branches about him and his place. This is irrevalent to the shipping, but Tatsuya and Miyuki might just be better off distancing themselves from the Yotsuba and going away for a while.

What series have you been reading so far? It's ridiculous to say that Tatsuya alone would defeat a clan of mental interference users.... The Yotsuba family have full intel on Tatsuya's abilities, Maya is a sage capable of tracking him and Tatsuya can't be awake 24/7. They would find a way to take him down without a doubt. Sure no one in the clan could take him in a 1vs1 fight but the Yotsuba are assassins not honourable knights that would challenge him to a duel....

>>119573749Tatsuya just needs to use Trident and his new baryon magic and he'll be more than a match to wipe them off. He can also try allying with another clan or organization against them. Like the 101st? Need I remind you he nuked entire fleets of Chinese with one trigger? You are vastly overexaggerating the abilities of the clan as a whole. Mitsugu is weaker than Nakura. Maya is the outstanding one and who knows about the twins if they wouldn't support Tatsuya.

I assume he's talking about a Tatsuya with permanent Third Eye access and in effect the ability to use Material Burst at will.

It's who strikes first, and if Tatsuya had Third Eye and his magic sniper rifle, the Yotsuba estate and anything in the immediate vicinity would cease to exist in a matter of a minute or two.

Of course that would not destroy all of the Yotsuba clan, but it would kill Maya and a lot of her goons.

He's a strategic class magician and a living death machine that cannot die by normal means. Saying that he can't solo Yotsuba is not a lie, but it will certainly be a feat that will be extremely hard to do, even for Onii-sama.

>>119574035You do realise there are several branch families, all of which like have people on Mitsgu/Fumiya's level with unique abilities like the magic that took out all of the military hardliners in volume 13 and miyukis own mental interference magic which is capable of killing Tatsuya.

The Yotsuba are a clan that are spread out with secret identities, Tatsuya can't just nuke them within Japan, don't be retarded. If he does that the entirety of Japan will be after him.

It has been out right stated by Tatsuya that he can't yet move against the Yotsuba family, did you read the untouchable chapter where we got a glimpse of all the unique abilities the clan possesses? Just like Tatsuya has a direct counter to Maya there is bound to be someone capable of killing him. They are out right stated to be above the rest of the master clans, Tatsuya still has to sleep and rest at some point.

Also please stop acting as if the 101st could attack the Yotsuba clan, the master clan system is given privileges by the government themselves. The 101st is a military division of the government, they can't just go around attacking the Master clans directly to help Tatsuya. The Yotsuba clan were stated to be a clan capable of starting a world war, a government doesn't simply move against something like that for the sake of one individual. The 101st couldn't even move against the Kudou directly in volume 13 when they were trying to experiment on high school students, they had to send Tatsuya undercover unreleated to them through Kyoko because they couldn't do anything themselves just against the Kudou and their backers.

>>119574591Source for MI being capable of killing Tatsuya? Never has been been stated in the LNs.

Sakai's group was just regular military, not magicians.

The 101st didn't order Tatsuya to do anything against Retsu, it was the Yotsuba with Saeki's blessing.

The government won't support a clan that is revealed to have dabbled in taboo human experimentation which the Yotsuba have done to a great extent. Once that information is out, Tatsuya is a living example of this, it's likely they would lose their commission. Just like the Ichihana for the puppet terrorists.

Another possibility is by cutting off their sponsor or turning them against the Yotsuba. The Yotsuba aren't going to survive for long without their donors. Nor would they fare well if the other 27 families find out their dealings.

>>119574591>they had to send Tatsuya undercover unreleated to them through Kyoko because they couldn't do anything themselves just against the Kudou and their backers.No need for Tatsuya, just send in Mayumi, the bad guys will stop evil experiments and breed with her instead.

>>119574591The Yotsuba are starting to shit their pants about Tatsuya already. They are doubting his loyalty and are testing waters with him. They fear him already and what it would mean for them if he went unsupervised from them. They probably wanted him to be unknown to the world so that they could keep his power for themselves. Once others have taken note of him, he gains independence and the ability to make other connections and loyalties.

>>119574977"The government wont support a clan that has dabbled in human experimentation" Have you read the series? All of the 10 laboratories are well known to have dabbled in human experimentation, all of them. They don't care. Sakai's military group had magaicians with them.

""Is it gas?"

"No, it's magic!"

The magician accompanying Col. Sakai managed to get right what was behind the thick fog.

However, they only knew that it was magic. Without knowing its effects, they could not make it disappear.

"You have been invited, Col. Sakai and staff."

As they shifted their focus onto the playful voice, they saw a man in his prime dressed in a suit in spite of mid-summer and wearing diagonally a soft hat bowing smartly before them.

"I invite you to the world of dreams."

After that, Sakai's consciousness slipped into the darkness."

Also, yes the 101st dragged Tatsuya into the parasite conflict.

"“Tatsuya-kun. We request your cooperation in stopping the Parasite Dolls from going out of control.”

She did not rise up to bow, as she sat on the sofa with both knees together with her hands on top of them, but Fujibayashi bowed her head down low. She did not call him ‘Special Officer” but “Tatsuya-kun”.

“Cooperation?”

“Yes, this is not an order. This request is not something in the realm of what we can command you to do as your duty. Therefore, this is a plea for your cooperation.”

The 101st asked Tatsuya to interfere because they didn't have the ability/Authority to do so themselves. They can't just go after the 10 master clans directly, they wont be able to help Tatsuya.

It's ridiculous to say that no one in the family will have Mental interference magic capable of taking him down, Tatsuya has his limits as seen in volume 13. He needs to rest like any other human being. If you think Tatsyua is capable of deploying allies against the Yotsuba then imagine how many organisations the Yotsuba could deploy against him.

>>119575387That's not true, the ones that were found out like the Ichihara and Nanakura lost their number. The government cares very much about it.

The magicians that were with Sakai are grunts compared to anyone in the 10 MC. The Chinese had magicians too and they were taken out by high school kids, some not even from the 10 MC. That's not proving the elite level of these Yotsuba branch magicians we just heard about.

The Yotsuba aren't going to be able to take out 9 other MCs. We know that at least the Saegusa and Kudou want to weaken them. If you give the other clans a reason showing the Yotsuba have acted out of self-interest or in a way not beneficial to magicians they might be against it too.

You have yet to cite where in the LNs it is mentioned Tatsuya has problems with MI magic. Weren't the parasites MI users and he took out 13 of them at one location?

>>119575387Okay, are you really trying to argue that 9 MCs + Tatsuya would not stomp on the Yotsuba? Have you been reading the same series? We are 15 volumes in and Tatsuya has curbstomped everyone, including beat Maya in a friendly that is the best Yotsuba has to offer.

>>119575694The Sakura series were from a Yotsuba ancestor, that's about all we know. It is stated that younger generations surpass the older ones as far as magic so I doubt the grandfather is as good as even Maya and Miya.,

>>119575968No way, that Youtsuba main power is only Maya. She is old, i'll bet that someone younger will stronger than Maya. Also we just saw Kuroba and Maya, i dont think that other MF scares by this 2 persons.

>>119575795That's the thing, the 9MC aren't going to side with Tatsuya, they can't. The kudou and Saegusa want to weaken the Yotsuba, yes sure. But they can't legally attack them directly and they wont be able to do so to help Tatsuya. The Yotsuba have far more influence as a whole than Tatsuya ever will. The parasites and mental interference magic users, do you even know what Mi is? It's magic that targets the information dimension directly like Miyukis cocytus and Miya'smental design interference.

Tatsuya's regrowth works by restoring the edios in the real world, while Miyukis Cocytus directly freezes the conscious in the information dimension, Cocytus is a one hit kill on Tatsuya. We have also seen that Miyas mental interference magic was capable of permanently removing Tatsuyas emotions, so it's proven that regrowth doesn't revert mental interference magic.

Anyway here you go: "For now, I still don't have enough power. In a head on situation, there is a possibility I could defeat the 'Queen of Night' Yotsuba Maya. My 'Decomposition' has good compatibility as a counter to her 'Night' after all.

But the me as of now, even if I could beat our Aunt, I can't do anything about the Yotsuba. Force of arms alone, the threat of violence alone is not enough. If I displace our Aunt, another worse manipulator would simply show up in her place. At this moment, I can only follow."

It's out right stated that Tatsuya can't move against the entire clan.

Why do you people keep acting like everyone would just die with a single individual like Tatsuya over the most imfluential member of the master clans. Tatsuya likely has little to no evidence of human experimentation, they can't even view the information dimension to see what Miya did to his mind. There is no evidence of anything that would allow them to move against the Yotsuba openly. In the mean time the Yotsuba would kill him using their full influence that is proven to be on an international level.

>>119575968Tatsuya has a advantage in his match up against Maya and it could hardly be called a stomp. Just like Maya is superior against Tatsuya she is like wise superior against people like Katsuo that he is weaker against. Calling it a stomp is ridiculous.

Like wise here:""……In any case, you must be careful of your surroundings. The Stars are not like the soft opponents you have gone up against until now. If they determine that you are a threat to the hegemony of the United States, it is possible that they have the capability to take you down."

It has been stated that even Stars might have the abilitiy to take Tatsuya down. Keep in mind that this is without any intel on his abilities. The Yotbsuba have international level influence as seen here.

"The Yotsuba of Japan.

For those who walked with magic, this was the untouchable land. Especially for people who wielded magic for military purposes.

They were not like Major Sirius in that one person bore the absolute destructive might to challenge an army.

The existence of the Yotsuba Family lay in the entirely opposite direction.

Right now (at least for now), they were subservient to the Japanese government, but if they suddenly morphed into terrorists, they were held as individuals who could pull the trigger on World War IV.

On the magic side, for such a zealous organization, they were not raised up as something worthy of respect, but of complete and utter fear."

"If she was on personal terms with the "Yotsuba", then she would have more than enough to reclaim her lost position in the military and then some. She had personally tested their prowess the night before.

As usual, the young girl maintained her smile.

After weighing both sides on a scale, logic won. –The side of logic named ambition. "

Who knows what the Yotsuba would be capable of throwing Tatsuyas way, it's quite possible they could go as far as throwing international assassins his way such as stars by leaking Intel...

>>119576786How does Tatsuya know his grandfather's magic when he doesn't really know everything about Yotsuba as stated directly by him in his thoughts where he doesn't believe if he defeats Maya, everything would be over since Maya could be a shadow puppet for all he knows.

And what's stopping Tatsuya from being affected by Genzou's magic when he could get a hacked video sent to his home lab and the hacker has a Genzou clone work his magic on Tatsuya and Tatsuya can't do anything about it since his magic can't work across hologram monitors unlike Genzou's magic.

>>119577792That's not what he says, he says that if Maya would be taken down that wouldn't help any because someone even worse might rise to the top. Such as Mitsugu for instance, if Mitsugu became the head Tatsuya would be locked away permanently.

>>119575968Tatsuya's 14 year old cousin defeated America's best bodyguards guarding the American military person in charge of Lina in Japan and they weren't even intimidated by Elder Kudou in person.

The other 9 Master Clans are barely worth mentioning except Juumonji unless you think Masaki's family that barely qualifies as master clan is worth anything when it is even stated how small their clan is and that their influence is on a small town mayor level.

Meanwhile, Yotsuba are doing black ops special missions and the only clan stated to be capable of starting World War 3.

Also, everyone kisses up to Seagusa clan at parties but no one dares try kissing up to a Yotsuba member if they dare show up at a party.

>>119576611And they can't side with him because? They can also kick out the Yotsuba from the 10 MC if they want at the next selection. Government isn't going to condemn them if the Yotsuba have done questionable things that would put them in a negative light to muggles. What intel leak? We have no source information on the Yotsuba and frankly I don't know where you are spewing all these glorifications about them assuming they have all these greats MI mages yet Miyuki and Fumiya are the only viable options as heirs.

>>119578010The Saegusa and Ichijou are the largest in number mate. Ichijous have influence over northern Japan and took out the Russians in the Sado invasion. Saegusa, Juumonji and Yotsuba have influence over Tokyo and its greater area. The Kudou have influence in the Kyoto area. The Juumonji and Saegusa also handled the parasites and the Kudou have ties to the military. This is all information you can get from various preambles in the LNs. Where is the source for your speculations?

Exactly what black ops have the Yotsuba done that rest or the 101st haven't done?

>>119578093Miyuki and Fumiya aren't the only options as heir candidates. Maya says: "Yes. It's unfortunate for the other children who are candidates, but it cannot be anyone except Miyuki. So that Tatsuya, that monster, will not turn against us." She say's it's unfortunate for the other "Candidates" Implying there are more heir's that will be missing out other than just Fumiya. It seems likely that everyone of the 7 branch families have a candidate just like the Kuroba have Fumiya.

Secondly we don't know how the 10MC selection works, don't act as if they can just be "voted out". It has been specifically mentioned that the Yotsuba act as the special ops of the Japanses government. You can't just replace a position like that.

Why do you keep stating the entire 10MC system will just turn against the Yotsuba, the Saegusa and Kudou have obviously wanted to weaken them for a long time, yet they have failed to do so. They obviously can't just "Vote them out". We have no idea what position the other master clans not yet introduced would take. For example we know the Shippou or at least some of them hate the Saegusa, it's likely the Yotsuba themselves have allies, just like how the Saegusa influence the third military division in secret.

Kudou Retsu himself mentions their unique abilities. "Even in our current predicament, based on the fact that they possess unique abilities unmatched by other families and have a select but extremely powerful group of Magicians, the Yotsuba Family are already a special entity within the Ten Master Clans."

Did you read the untouchable chatper? It show cases at least 3 of their unique mental interference magic users and it was stated back then years ago that the Yotsuba possessed 60 combat magicians, since then they have grown more powerful. Clearly amongst the 7 branches they possess powerful mental interference users. Did you read any of the quotes where even the USNA fear the Yotsuba as "Untouchable"?

>>119576611Just because he can't take down the Yotsuba does not mean he can not terminally cripple them. Anyway, Miyuki is almost assured to be the next clan head so after she is in position taking them down would be extremely easy. Doubt he would care at that point though. Not like he can hold a grudge.

>>119578974Quality: Nakura > Mitsugu and Zhou has no reason to be biased. Who are these supposed quality magicians the Yotsuba have that they fear losing Tatsuya? Source for your claim Yotsuba could incite WW3? WW3 already happened actually.

>>119579083The Yotsuba Clan was weakest when they lost their best manpower in a double kill with China yet even when the Yotsuba Clan was at their weakest, the Saegusa and Kudou couldn't do a thing about the Yotsuba.

>>119578982You do realise Maya leaked the Kuroba intel on purpose to reveal their relation? This was done so that when the Kuroba visited Tatsuya/Miyuki they would be linked to the Yotsuba and thus the traditionalists would attack them. This then lefft Tatsuya with no choice but to go after Zhou to protect Miyuki.

It's never been stated that Mitsugu is the strongest in the Kuroba anyway. Considering Fumiya is the heir candidate and not him it's possible Fumiya is more powerful and Tatsuya has been seen as having a high opinion of Mitsugus abilities, so he can't be weak.

>>119579194>Nakura > MitsuguJust where does he get off acting like he's the shit then if even an extra could take care of him. Of course, I know becoming an extra has no bearing on the strength of the individual but I would have assumed he'd be closer to Maya than to Nakura, who couldn't stand up to Zhou.

>>119579171>can not terminally cripple themThis is the same reason the clans do not fight each other as well. If a clan is left weakened from a fight with another, even after winning, they would lose their position as a best case scenario. Worst case probably becoming servants of another.

>>119579441This. I really hate idiots who take his narration as law. When it has been shown time and time again he is wrong about powerlevels.

>>119579505It was part of a long term plan according to the volume 14 spoilers.

Besides do people not realise how easily the Yotsuba could turn people against Tatsuya? They are the ones protecting him with information control. If they suddenly release the identity of Masherva to the GAA and the strategic class magicians identity to stars and other world superpowers do people not realise how many high level international assassins would be coming his way? They went as far as sending Lina in person to eliminate the magician back in volume 9 without being 100% sure on how dangerous his abilities even are. If they become aware that he could literally end life on earth imagine the effort the world super powers would put into assassinating him so that Japan doesn't have a super weapon...

>>119579377Are you talking about Mitsugu or Zhou? Nakura didn't live up to the expectations his clan had for themselves, sort of like what happened with Tatsuya. He was obviously talented enough to be a main Saegusa body guard. Mitsugu just seems like he's an old fashioned guy that disagrees with Tatsuya because he doesn't meet the clan's conventional path. Basically has a stick up his ass without the skills to back up his superiority. He wants his own son to be heir not Miyuki, at least he's a good father.

>>119579767Are you stupid? You can still have oxygen inside a barrier. His barrier stops missiles, it's described as being impenetrable. Diffusion/dispersal magic is actually known to combat the effects of WMDs and radiation. That's more the Kudou and Ichijou who use dispersal.

>>119580139Source? Phalanx has never been described as actually being transparent. That's just how the anime portrayed it. It doesn't matter if light can pass through it, light isn't going to kill anyone and you have diffusion magic that exists to counter the effects of radiation.

All assuming the Yotsuba will have a random nuke to use just because you want them to.

>>119579681How are they protecting him exactly? Is information control really protecting him or keeping him on a leash for their own benefit? People aren't going to turn against a genius like Silver and if he comes up with that nuke reactor and helps solve people's energy issues they'll be supporting him. George got a ton of recognition for a mere cardinal code and somehow Tatsuya isn't going to get support for his research?

I've been thinking about this scenario for a while now and it still makes me giggle like a chuuni inside:

>Stupid fuckup Shitpou is being even more retarded than usual and decides to tamper with Miyuki's CAD or whatever because jealousy >muh superiority>Gets caught by the disciplinary committee>They're terrified that Tatsuya will delete him if he finds out>Shippou is forced to accept help from the Saegusa clan to cover up the incident

I just want everyone who crosses Onii-sama to be humiliated and degraded. Except Zhou. He can die a good death.

>>119580959Shippou already got his ass handed to him by Tomitsuka. Tatsuya also cockblocked him from a night of fun with an actress. I would say he hasn't had an easy time. He was also forcibly patched up by Kasumi and I assume being touched by a Saegusa gave him bile not a boner.

>>119580506They have helped him out during the stars incident whether you want to admit it or not. Tatsuya is going to be used no matter where he goes. They will never allow a strategic class magician of his level to walk around, the USNA already tried to assassinate him, the Yotsuba then proceeded to take out their command centre and threaten the USNA general in charge to stop interfering with their countries magcians, thus helping Tatsuya avoid further trouble with stars.

Information control is going to exist no matter where he goes, the 101st use him as a weapon, then keep him under constant surveillance and take aprt in information control also. Without the Yotsubas claim on Tatsuya he would likely be taken advantage of by the military to a much higher degree, Tatsuya current position is likely best for him. When he doesn't want to help the 101st he can use his guardian duty to Miyuki to avoid orders and when he doesn't want to help the Yotsuba he uses the Yotsuba/101st contract as a way to avoid it.

As Tatsuya currently stands neither the Yotsuba or Japanese government can entirely control him, which they obviously would if they could. As Tatsuya stated in volume 4, even if he removed Maya a even worse manipulator would probably take over, at least she somewhat seems to care for her Nephew compared to Mitsugu and the Military personnel they probably view him as nothing but a weapon.

Stars has already tried to kill him once, they would likely do so again. The GAA obviously hold a grudge against Masherva for what he did to their fleet in both Okina/Yokohoma and other countries would likely view him as an unacceptable threat also.

>>119581068Yeah that too. One scenario that I've imagined is that Koichi declares war on the Yotsuba and then gets immediately forced to surrender when Maya informs him that his daughters have already been taken hostage.

>>119581252Maya being the devil's advocate it would be much more like her to take care of the "pest problem" by either making Mayumi or her brothers remove him forcibly by presenting them with the evidence and saying that either Yotsuba clean the house or they.

>>119581269>Your face when that sniper was actually the most dangerous opponent introduced so far in the story that was the closest to putting Tatsuya in a permanent death and has yet to be topped by anyone else.

>>119581307That would be a sight to see, or Miyuki baiting him like miss perfect "politician" she is and forcing his hand to, say try to hit her.Like saying how does it feel to have Nakura getting killed by dealing with the people that took your eye from him.Both Miyuki and Tatsuya are quite broken records when it comes to being human and that's the reason I'd love to see them push the boundary more in other ways than masquerading as couple.

>>119581465The question becomes who becomes more valuable/Difficult to deal with, The Yotsuba who stands at the pinnacle of the 10MC, the Yotsuba who provide the majority of the special ops needs of the entire country and the family capable of starting a world war tearing Japan apart or Tatsuya the lone scientist that shares his findings with the entire world? You do realise Tatsuya releases all his research publicly right? Meaning even rival nations like USNA gain from it? Tatsuya doesn't secretly provide his research to the Japanese Military alone. Helping rivals and them advance mutually isn't all that valuable, perhaps if he worked for them exclusively he would be more so but he doesn't.

If Japan started an internal conflict with the Yotsuba mutual destruction is likely guaranteed for all parties. If they decide to wipe out Tatsuya alone they get the swift death of a single individual that would likely be the target of foreign super powers anyway.

>>119581795Well considering them scouting him out at the 9SC venues and him using mostly FLT technology to work his engineering magic, there hardly is any real doubt in what his sponsors and such are.Engineers just don't "grow" during cram school at his level in high school.

>>119581801I would like a little more on the ancient magicians and hopefully less descriptions of the magic science fair. I don't really care about what high schools 1-9 researched when there's an ongoing manhunt for Zhou by the stu brigade.

Would be interesting if Tatsuya actually started acting as the head of Four leaves for awhile. Of course even if he doesn't and is just trying to defend the company, you can bet Sayuri would still be grumpy about him during the whole situation.

>>119582087The only moments they're interesting is when they're interacting or working for their lord as apostles.Erika and Leo still have their uses, same as Miki but I'd rather not see the story focusing solely on their panties in a twist.Either release another side story volume like 5th one was or do it like MIki's brother as short extra.Unless author manages to build Rozen into something more believable than a R&D firm trying to catch Onii-sama to their side and miss all the strings attached to him.

>>119582275>Tatsurou's reaction when Sayuri jumps ships and paws the way for Onii-sama taking over first 3rd R&D Div and then the whole company.Poor man just wanted to dodge a bullet after he figured out he will never make himself big as a magician.

>>119581891Tatsuya can start doing research for the military. He hasn't yet because he's kept on a leash like he's worthless. That baryon lance would be a great military tool. And he didn't actually want to release his flying magic, the 9SC committee did it out of fairness to the other competitors. Also, what is Trident? It's used by the 101st and it's a military CAD kept safe like Brionac.

You act like special ops are the pinnacle of a country's existence and that nobody else can take over that duty. Japan isn't going to crumble over one clan.

>>119582567Can't really blame them, I remember binging on the volumes between 1st and 3rd ep and converting to one true faith with discussion and debates over the scriptures.So little has actually happened on LN front after the anime ended and the wait for v13 translations was mindboggling.

>>119582567part of our problems is BT is stupidly fucking slow on translations so a fair bit of us are still stuck waiting for vol 14 to finish, which is asinine.we are kind of waiting to hear whats up as well, not all of us can read gook.

>>119582618She is like a half-broken record already with her conflicted feelings, she didn't really need more pushing from Miyuki.Or maybe another case of Fomalhaut or whatever the pyro-vampires name was.She has a road still and hopefully author will have some use for him before the series ends.

>>119582223Notice how Tatsuya joins with Minoru and Masaki instead of his friends when he actually wants to get shit done? He has no time to babysit 1st high this time. I have nothing against Leo, Erik and Miki but they do end up being more of a liability than a help most of the time.

True. After Vol 13 just went into snail trail pace translation, things kind of got dead. Hell i remember one anon saying that we will probably get Vol 15 right after Vol 14 is just getting translated. Oh how right he was.

>>119582408The 9SC didn't make him publicly release the flying magic. It was already released a month ago before that, the schools just hadn't got their hands on it so the board released it to them. Tatsuya has also never showed any intent or desire to research for the Military, in fact it was stated that as silver he chooses to publicly release his research.

Dahan crumbled as a price for messing with the very same "One clan". The Yotsuba are stated to be able to create a world war. The Yotsuba identities aren't even publicly known and they can do as they please in the shadows, volume 13 shows how they can attack military personnel such as the hardliners, capture them, interrogate them and who knows what else without consequence.

Tatsuya hasn't been kept of a leash in terms of his research, they are letting him create his new baryon lance without restriction, they let him create his flying magic without restriction, where do you even get this idea?

Trident is just a specialized CAD, that allows him to loop cast his decomposition magic.

>>119582928Why did Drey get so tired of the translations? He seemed to gung ho about it. I see an above post state it was about quality? The Chinese translations he was working from, or the other English translators work? I know sometimes he had to wait for chink translations before he could start doing English ones, and I believe the other translator works on those same chink translations, so maybe he just thought it was a wasted effort on his part?

>>119583136Afaik v13 at first was translated by someone else than the "usual" chink crew and he distanced himself during that time.He came back for v13 end before v14 release and then lost his appetite iirc.Can't fault him if he didn't like the magipolitics but those were the underlaying themes all along, now only raised to the table as major one.

>>119582933He's allowed to create his CADs but not get credit for it or recognition which is what would drive people to support him. Miyuki is upset he's not allowed to register in the Index and be recognized. There's no indication people wouldn't support or recognize him. People at 1st high have done so and even created an engineering class because of him. To say he needs the Yotsuba to protect him from information is ignoring how people react to his feats.

Dahan also killed Yotsuba members and the clan is still dealing with the aftermath of people like Zhou and Black Sage going after them.

It was never stated that Tatsuya refuses or has no interest in designing military CADs. He can work on whatever he wants and he'd get lots of people, whether it be the military or private companies knocking on his door for projects. His CAD for Shizuku was something of a breakthrough when only a prototype existed.

Trident is obviously a little bit more than just a CAD for looping decomposition when it's kept under lock and key. This isn't 9 SC level of peanuts device.

>>119583371Averages 10K per volume. It's not bad but nothing outstanding. Basef on the Madhouse projects for next year I doubt it. The LNs are selling just fine without needing the anime S2 as advertisements.

>>119583427And v6 just got released, v7 will be the end of 9SC arc and that still leaves 3months+ until final volume is released.Publisher/Production Commitee most likely is playing the waiting game and won't do anything until all volumes are out and they see how well the side materials like the Out of Order has sold.

>>119583700looks like they will not move until they finish the volume and troll us for rest of the week. Same question repeating for millionth time. Why wont the authors let their translated work come into picture the same day they release their own. Line webtoons (naver) in order to stop illegal copies of it's webtoons started their own english site where popular webtoons release the same day.

>>119583740I already ordered mine. Waiting for it to arrive, it'll be here some time next week. Thank goodness my country's politicians raised the rates on tax free purchases, or else it would've ended up costing me double of what I' paying for it now.

>>119583314Yet again you keep mixing things up. Trident isn't under lock and key, that's third eye which you are referring to. Trident and third eye are two completely different things, Trident is a decomposition loop cast/ Thrid eye allows him to use material burst over insane distances which is what allows him to nuke the GAA fleet in yokohama.

Zhou has only become a recent problem for them and calling him a problem isn't even really correct. He has done nothing to harm the family despite all his attempts. We don't know of a single situation where he has damaged them, so far all he has done is caused the GAA to get embarrassed and the black sage to lose his Blanche/No dragon head branches located in Japan.

In fact it was stated here that:"If that's the case, even the secret maneuvers of the one called Zhou Gongjin would be convenient. Thinking for Tatsuya-dono's cover-up would be troubling though." The movements of Zhou havn't been a bother for them at all, it's even been stated to be convenient at times.

Organisations outside of Japan would try to kill him, it isn't even questionable, it's an out right fact. Stars has already tried to eliminate him. If his strategic class abilities went public outsiders from Japan would attempt to assassinate him while insiders within the military would try to control/use him.

Tatsuya out right stated that if he removed Maya a worse manipulator would just take her place. He needs the Yotsuba or a similar family to protect him so that the government can't take full control of him and other nations can't just assassinate him. It's not just the Yotsuba that force him to keep secrets, the 101st do as well.

The might of the Yotsuba and the fear of his strategic class magic far outweigh anything that he has accomplished as Silver at this point in time. It has been stated that likely Miyuki alone would stand behind him vs the Yotsuba family, there's a difference between liking Tatsuya and being willing/able to fight for him.

It might take some getting used to with the new guys. Vol 2 was alright for a read, but i believe it can get good as the first series. I just was Izaya back as Kuon has no way to fill in the shoes of Izaya.

>>119584063Zhou hasn't harmed the family thanks to Tatsuya. Need I remind you he almost killed Mitsugu?

Why wouldn't Miyuki fight for Tatsuya? Are we watching the same series, she's unhappy with the Yotsuba because of how they treat him.

There's no reason for anyone to care about the Yotsuba if Tatsuya and Miyuki aren't a part of it. So the GAA will invade? Big deal, 1st high killed a bunch of them alone Yokohama. You forget that the USNA and Shizuku's family wanted to recruit Tatsuya.

If Mitsugu replaces Maya that's even more laughable considering he almost got killed by Zhou.

>>119584617The USNA first tried to recruit him, then tried to kill him when he refused. It was either he join them to take him away from Japan or eliminate him. He almost killed Mitsugu but he had no actual effect, he failed to kill him, then Tatsuya restored his arm. Aka they have achieved nothing against the Yotsuba as an end result.

Volume 13 made it perfectly clear that war would be bad for Japan. As Kyoko said the world is made up of far more than just the two for them, even if they could beat the GAA it would end badly for them.

Look it has been out right stated in the quote I posted before that Tatsuya can't beat them yet. It's not even debatable at this point in time. The Yotsuba have international level influence, they have many mental interference magic users which is the best magic we know of so far for killing Tatsuya, they have the ability to reveal his abilities causing international assassins to come at him.

There's nothing Tatsuya can do at this point in time that would give the other master clans grounds or enough motivation to attack the Yotsuba. We know the kudou want to weaken the Yotsuba not destroy or start a war with them. The Yotsuba are subservant to the Japanese government the 101st and other master clans can't just legally attack them. There's no evidence for any inhuman experimentation on Tatsuya and no one would move against the Yotsuba. Their identities and locations aren't even known if by some miracle they lost their minds and wanted to. It would end with the Yotsuba killing Tatsuya behind the scenes without anyone else being able to interfere.

I'm not saying the situation wont change at some point in the light novel. Tatsuya may at some point in the future find a weak spot or opportunity to expose something about them, but at this point in time as stated in the light novel "He can only obey". Accept it.

>>119585102Why would the rest of the world care that two kids left some clan in Japan, I don't quite follow that. Nor how Japan is weakened by that considering his chain of command is Miyuki then the 101st then Yotsuba so he's still able and ready to defend Japan, that changes nothing. I don't think the Yotsuba would needlessly pick fights with them and risk themselves either.

Tatsuya said he couldn't do anything against his aunt and the Yotsuba in V4 (your quote) and we are at V15, I think some time has passed and enough things have changed in regards to Tatsuya as he is viewed by others that he has more allies and friends than he did in V4. He also did beat Maya. It wasn't all out, but it was a win.

You forget that the Yotsuba are largely the target of Zhou and Black Sage, not Tatsuya. He's a target due to his ties to them.

The story so far has been a path of Tatsuya slowly gaining recognition and allies so that he can be free and stop being a tool for a family that has mistreated him.

Vol 12 was eh to me. Only thing i found interesting was the two Shota worshipers and that Batman thing. Though duel at the end between Tatsuya and Tomitsuka was pretty enjoyable. Miyuki realizing there are people that Tatsuya has to try on was very gratifying.

>>119586010First of all Tatsuya mentions yet again in volume 14 he is still not ready. "Accordingly, Tatsuya judged that it wasn't time yet to oppose Maya. And that call, just because the opponent had behaved like a lamb, won't change" ^ That's a quote from volume 14, he still can't oppose them yet.

I'm not saying the rest of the world will care that "two kids left a clan" they will care that Tatsuya is a strategic class magician and Masherva, thus they will try to kill him. Stars has already tried and GAA will want revenge for obvious reason, I shouldn't need to explain why....

Tatsuya has messed up zhous plans countless times, he also has the same blood relation to the people that destroyed Dahan just as much as any other family member, he is Genzous grandson after all. He is likely just as much of a target as any family member.

It has been stated in the novel that while Tatsuya might not view himself as a Yotsuba the rest of the world does.

>>119586652I don't see anyone going out to bomb Mio Itsuwa out of existence and she's a registered S-class. USNA going after Tatsuya was a bit different situation, it was due to him using MB and the workd being very confused by the magic.

As for your V14 quote, that was in relation to not opposing Maya as far as going after the eliminate Zhou request. Tatsuya has good reason to go after Zhou, independently of whether Maya asked or not. He has been a threat to Miyuki and the students for over a year. That same quote you posted also ultimately says that Tatsuya will oppose the Yotsuba. He seems to have planned out the exact time and manner and is bidding his time, making preparations. Just because the Yotsuba are acting like lambs, Tatsuya will still oppose them sooner or later. He has something in mind.

>>119587223I never said that Tatsuya wont beat the Yotsuba eventually when there's an opportunity. But the fact remains at this point in the story he can't. It was out right stated in volume 4 that he currently couldn't beat them and it's stated yet again in volume 14 that the time isn't right. Tatsuya doesn't even know everything about himself at this point, he couldn't possibly plan everything out at this point without knowing. Maya is still keeping secrets from him.

At this point there's nothing he can do against them. He certainly can't destroy the entire clan by himself like some people in this thread have stated...

>>119587624Please stop taking the narrator's word as law and infallible. It has been proven that he underrates himself and overrates others. Please.

>nothing he can do against themThere is plenty he can do against them, and if he was able to actually do something substantial (which is the only debatable part, because he could hurt them) other people and organizations would try and take the Yotsuba down too. He could easily kill Maya, her guards, butler guy, and whoever else was at her compound without even nuking them. I realize he would fail in an effort to single handily destroy them but he could do possibly unrecoverable damage that would leave them in a weaker position. They have plenty of enemies who hate them enough to try to take advantage of it. Even committing seppuku would lower their ranking since strategic-class magicians obviously raise a clans level up as seen from that cripple-chan.

>>119588225Killing himself would do next to nothing. Barely anyone knows he is related to them apart from the 101st and the Yotsuba are already feared as "Untouchable" without him.

Anyway answer this, how are other organisations going to do anything against them? The Yotsuba identities are unknown to the public and their headquarters and networks are said to have government level + security. Tatsuya himself likely doesn't have a good grasp on most of their identities.

Their other enemies can't just walk up to their home with the big 'Yotsuba" sign on the front door and attack them. That's where the main problem is.

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