I reviewed the site and found it very similar to a lot of the neo-ninja sites that had popped up over the last few years, but this one has a chinese flavor.

"Blood Matches" and making it to the "Third Circle" (you have 24 hrs to complete this and may try as many times as you wish as long as you can stand and defend yourself) left me with a bad taste in my mouth.

Of couse the site states that chi tao quan is the fastest, bestest and deadliest of all gungfu styles. There are stories that can't be verified and no real concrete infomation, traceable lineages or even a technique or two to take a look at (I presume that this is because they are all too deadly to show to the general public). There's a lot of talk of 'father' to 'son' transmission and sacrificing all for the 'masters', long 'probationary' periods where you must apparently scrape and grovel just to get the oppertunity to become a student. Oy yes, and lest I forget much more scraping and groveling to be done before you are allowed to learn the secret 'internal' styles (another bad sign).

Now remember chitaochuan this is not an attack on you personally, but rather a critique of the information and content of the website that you invited us to view. Good gungfu (as well as bad) can be found all over the U.S. today with little effort and there are some very exceptional internal teachers here as well (Lou De Xiu, Ken Fish, Vince Black, Ed Hampton, Mike Sigman and on and on).

I admit I know nothing of the style of chi tao chuan, but I a bit disturbed by all of the hype of the website. Many of the same claims were made in years past(and still active in small dark places around the country) by the Chung Moo Doe crowd(cult). It would be great if you (chitaochuan) could enlighten us a bit more about the training methods and possibly a little lineage of the Green Dragon Society!

Kempo(spoiling for a good debate)man

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Quote:from the website greendragonsociety.comChi Tao is the name of an art like Gung-Fu which was modernized and refined by the late Grandmaster Ho, who killed his foe in mortal combat numerous times in his youth

Well, it is getting better all the time!

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Quote:These are not like the Shaolin (Buddhist System) but like the Taoist, and do not teach imitations of Animal Weapons, such as mere holding of Tiger Claws, etc. The Animals are not for developing Bones, Muscles, etc....

Really, I'm sure that comes as a suprise to a great many people.

Quote:But through secret Meditation Techniques, the Spirit of the Actual Animal Fills the Mind of the student so He becomes... the Animal itself, in Strength, Action, Thinking, and Spirit.

Quote:The goal of all of these Animals is to become the Tiger-Spirit of the Animal they study (including the Tiger who must "face" himself). Then they become a dragon (master). There are higher and lower types of Dragons (Masters). However, the Eight Animals are all born of the Womb of Woman; the Dragon is born in Heaven, that is to say, Man gives birth to a Dragon in himself

Hunh?

Quote:Most Ranks are not for Forms or Diplomas. They are "Commissions" to execute Power, Command, Authority in the Name and Reputation of your Society and Master, and if withdrawn from you, then you have no rank.

I'm thinking of a word that rhyme's with 'ult'.

And of course the best for last...

Quote:Successful completion of the ITP is by participating in our secret (closed door) Blood Matches which are exclusive to Chi Tao Chuan Gung-Fu for the Instructor Certificate of Rank to be awarded.

Riiiggghhttt...

Quote:However, one may face the Trials of the Three Circles of Combat for the same Certificate. If you elect the "Trials," you have from midnight to dawn to enter the Third Inner Circle; you can try as many times as you like, as long as you are able to get up and defend yourself.

Is there alcohol involved?

Now, I am just having some fun here but there does seem to be a very high level of sillyness to the content of this website.

I have also googled for Grandmaster Ho and Master Tien Chi something-or-other and the only references are on the webpage itself. Now this does not necessarily mean that this is some sort of made up style with no actual lineage to a valid line of gungfu but it ain't helpin' the case either.

A point in their favor is that they at least are advertising that they will be conducting a few seminar's of taijiquan, xingyiquan and baguazhang with mysterious masters from china. Odd that the names of the masters (Yang and Gao) are very famous names of older (and deceased in the case of Gao) internal teachers of these arts.

ie Yang taijiquan and Gao style Baguazhang. Weird.

I would welcome anyone from the website or green dragon society to come by and give us some learnin' about your system and teachers. Otherwise you may be subjected to more of my indellible wit and sarcasm.

Kempo(using the power of the geko)man

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I won't start a argument on this forum with someone as smart as KEMPOMAN.Yes there are blood matches. No GREEN DRAGON SOCIETY is not a cult. NO you don't have to beg or grovel for instruction. KEMPOMAM you insult me and my art and then you want me to explain it to you.You have it all analized and you are free to belive what you want.Oh SANCHIN31 maybe you should reread that funny bs again seeing you got your ass whipped with the system you study.