LyricalRico wrote:^ Yes, Abe was the majority owner at the time, but wasn't Ted the one who brought MJ in? IIRC Ted had already bought the Caps from Abe and he was trying to build the Wizards brand in preparation for taking them over upon Abe's death.

But either way, my point was that Phil wouldn't want to be viewed as doing the same thing MJ did with the same team. Maybe he'd do it somewhere else, but not in DC IMO.

I think you are right that it was Ted, which makes it potentially more probable that he would be interested in doing this. Obviously he thinks that way since he did it once before. What I don't know is to what degree Ted was involved in kicking MJ to the curb. If that was more Abe then him, then maybe he would try it again. A lot would depend on how clean Teds hands are regarding the MJ thing.

If he was able to land MJ. Maybe he has the skills to land Phil. I know it is a long shot but it is the hot topic at hand.

There are some similarities between where the franchise was then and now only I think they are in a better situation now then they were then. The have picks and better assets.

EG would get moved into more of a contract guy ala George Allen. Phil would direct the franchise. Phil would be great for Wall and Nene and he has the Trevor A connection. And Phil could help pull in the right coach after evaluating Randy.

This is exactly the kind of splash Ted needs to make to get this thing turned around. Its a long shot but it is potentially doable. The Washington/Baltimore/Frederick/Virginia/DE market is potentially HUGE. I would offer Phil part ownership.

LyricalRico wrote:^ Yes, Abe was the majority owner at the time, but wasn't Ted the one who brought MJ in? IIRC Ted had already bought the Caps from Abe and he was trying to build the Wizards brand in preparation for taking them over upon Abe's death.

But either way, my point was that Phil wouldn't want to be viewed as doing the same thing MJ did with the same team. Maybe he'd do it somewhere else, but not in DC IMO.

In other words, you think he wouldn't do a financial deal in which he stood to make a huge amount of money doing something for which he has demonstrated skills, because he "wouldn't want to be viewed as..." whatever? Really?

Well, I never thought MJ would play for the Wizards, so I guess anything is possible. But I do think that not only do we need a good GM to buy the groceries, we need a whole culture change. Having an established winner like Phil be the president would set the tone from the top down.

Honestly, not even looking at the myriad of basketball reasons Phil would never consider this team, he'd almost certainly reject an offer just based on the fact that our team name is "Wizards" -- what a stupid team name.

miller31time wrote:Honestly, not even looking at the myriad of basketball reasons Phil would never consider this team, he'd almost certainly reject an offer just based on the fact that our team name is "Wizards" -- what a stupid team name.

Why I'm rooting for New Orleans to adopt the team name Pelicans. At least then we'd only have the second dumbest team name in league. The Wizards. We were that obsessed with an alliterative handle that we **** stooped to the Wizards?

Also, count me out in terms of wanting Phil coaching or running this team in any capacity. This team could desperately use the cache his name would bring, but I want a relatively young, highly thought of personnel man that's apprenticed under some executive thats competent in his role with a successful team. I want a dynamic thinker, someone willing to be creative and someone completely consumed with turning the Wizards around and making a name for himself through doing just that.

I think it was Aldridge that reported that agents for myriad candidates that fit that description called Leonsis to inquire about the availability of the job here . Aldridge insinuated that immediately after Leonsis acquired the team, multiple agents saw this as a plum spot for their clients because of the market and the assumed positive thrust of a new ownership group. Remember, this is a huge market, gargantuan if you included what could potentially be in it's purview if this craptastic organization had any appeal to more than just the die-hards in the Wash/Balt region which is the fourth most densely populated region in the country, and that doesnt include what could potentially be within our footprint in central and southern Virginia. The DC market alone is a tremendously affluent market that is growing at an exponential rate, it's a market with cache and pop because of the importance, history and cultural significance of DC to our country and it's a market in which professional basketball should thrive when you look at things from a demographic perspective and the fact that basketball in every level has resonance here. AAU and highschool basketball is terrific here. Georgetown and Maryland are national brands etc.

It's obviously not clear whether or not those agents still view this gig quite that positively considering the **** that has transpired since then, but even if they don't, there are only 30 of those jobs available. It shouldn't be difficult at all to sell someone on this position if Leonsis can convince them that he is truly interested in winning.

Halcyon wrote:Well, I never thought MJ would play for the Wizards, so I guess anything is possible. But I do think that not only do we need a good GM to buy the groceries, we need a whole culture change. Having an established winner like Phil be the president would set the tone from the top down.

GhostsOfGil wrote:Phil Jackson in DC is the epitome of a pipe dream. We all know how Ted is and seeing how he's rejected every sensible move, I doubt he even considers the idea.

Ted wouldn't accept the calls of potential GM candidates who were calling him when Ernie's contract was up for renewal, what does that tell you about Ted?

He wouldnt be the GM. He would be VP and part owner. Or whatever title they wanted to give him. You can add Phil while EG is still living out his two year contract. EG become the fella to works the contracts. More like Allen on the Skins. Then you move him if you want when his contract is up and Phil starts to populate the front office with Phil people.

Wizards is actually not that bad a name. It has grown on me. I like it better then the Bullets. I wouldn't change it if I was Ted. Washington Wizards works pretty good. Specially if they start winning. So much play you can get off of that name. Bullets is kind of lamn if you ask me.

But if they do it, we should definitely go with Washington Beavers. The marketing opportunities are endless.