Obama could not have been born at the Kapiolani hospital due to the The “Nordyke Twin” birth certificate numbering curiosity. However, the
form itself indicates that the birth was recorded from outside of Hawaii.
A former clerk whose signature is on Obama’s Long Form Birth Certificate verified that there was zero chance the electronic documented presented
by White House was the original. Many fields were filled in AFTER the original birth certificate had been certified
The State of Hawaii has laws and Jerome Corsi uncovered correspondence confirming that foreign nationals could obtain birth certificates WITHOUT
BEING BORN IN HAWAII. Worse, ANY ADULT – not even one related to the child – could record a “birth” simply by presenting information that
mother or father was a “resident” (not even a citizen) of Hawaii.
The State of Hawaii only will affirm that they have A RECORD OF BIRTH on file, but NOT that the information is accurate.
Hawaii refuses to show it to anyone which violating their own laws, especially when it is being requested by law enforcement of another
jurisdiction.
The State of Hawaii confirms that they did not provide the PDF document to the White House, meaning that what the White House offered as
“proof” was in itself an altered – and illegitimate.
The Kapiolani hospital had a log, right outside the delivery room, that was maintained by a nurse during the time Obama claims to have been born
there. The log is reported to be in the hospital archives, but hospital officials refuse to show it to them. Ironically, those archives are supposed
to be open to the public.

We all knew Obama's birth certificate was a fraud, I was hoping for alot more this time round than Arpaio's last big news on March 1st.

Fact is, fraudulant or not I'm 100% sure Obama's real biological daddy is not Obama Snr and his biological father (and mother) IS in fact a US born
citizen. Now why Obama wants to cover up who is real biological father is, I don't know but I think it might have to do more with Obama's lies
about his past, not his real father.

Originally posted by Carseller4
The founding fathers knew one day a foreigner would try to become President and destroy the country from the inside.

They had the foresight to put in a preventative measure in the Constitution to prevent this from happening.

Then came Barrack Hussein Obama.

The founding fathers tried to protect us, and we ignored them.

Uhh, "Then came the banking cartel with their private central bank" is what I think you meant to say. That is basically a foreign entity that has
been controlling this country. True, not a live person in the regular sense of the word.

I do get what you mean though. I can't remember who sold us out...was it Woodrow Wilson....1913? History was always my worst subject, but I remember
the really important "lessons learned."

If any one is going to be blamed for bringing forth Obma's fraudulant birth certificate......will be none other than 29 year old Alex Okrent.....who
suddenly died at the Chicago campaign headquarters! Right?

Anybody who would take anything coming from sheriff Joe Arpaio at face value should really do some serious soul searching. A little scrutiny is in
order here. I don't like to shoot the messenger but is some instances it is justified and this is one of them.

There are many reasons why you should not trust this man, he has a past and his past actions are reason enough why you should keep your trust in
check,

Do yourself a favor and take an honest look at this man.

Why would you want to blindly trust a man who wiretapped his political opponents?

That is just for starters...just the tip of the iceberg of this sleazy man. Why would anybody want to put their trust in him?

Oh looky, another Arpaio character assassin makes sure to get his meaningless 2 cents in, like he was talking to little babies that have to be spoon
fed Obamaganda 24 hours a day.

Insulting our intelligence with attempted deflection from the evidence. Again. Isn't that trick a little old?

Oh wait... I see. Must work for that same Channel 5 CBS affiliate that tried to ask those kinds of questions at the latest press conference- and who
was swatted like a fly by Joe. That's good. Flies need to get swatted.

Okay, I mentioned this on the previous Arpaio thread, but isn't it a weird coincidence that after Obama became president and had trouble proving his
birthplace, that his mom's buddy, Neil Abercromie runs for and becomes the governor of Hawaii? Perfectly positioned to help his friend's son, Barry,
by producing "proof"? But, strangely, even though Abercrombie campaigned saying he would end this birther stuff "once and for all", a few weeks
after winning the election he says he can't help Barry because the state's privacy laws won't let him?

I am too lazy to look up the links again, but I posted them into the other thread's reply. Hawaii conveniently made a law that allows the state to
ignore requests to see Obama's birth certificate, except for family. Too bad, Governor Abercrombie...I grew up in Hawaii, and I remember Abercrombe:
taxi driver, bald with a long ponytail, and always seemed a bit wild.. He is definitely passionate about wanting to help out Obama. You should see
the videos on you tube. But, having lived there and knowing politicians there personally, I totally believe that a cover-up could be pulled offf. In
Hawaii we are all connected to each other in some way or another...The Democrats own that state. Obama is safe there, even if they don't really like
him they will close ranks whenever necessary.

Yeah like Nixon..."I am Not A Crook" give us a break......
I think its important because i believe Obama is an implant of the shadow goverment.
Hes a cloned politician who has all the right credentials to be electable......If he were to go down in flames, they would just pull another sock
puppet out of the bag and keep the charade right on rolling,(all the while making political and monetary hay out of the good things and the bad things
that happen us all...........)
Obama is a stooge so obviously in over his head that hes treading water....Jeb Bush well theres a chip off the old blockhead there.....Romney too is
only taking orders from higher higher.....
When will the next pres be his own man?
Maybe never again

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Oh looky, another Arpaio character assassin makes sure to get his meaningless 2 cents in, like he was talking to little babies that have to be spoon
fed Obamaganda 24 hours a day.

Insulting our intelligence with attempted deflection from the evidence. Again. Isn't that trick a little old?

Oh wait... I see. Must work for that same Channel 5 CBS affiliate that tried to ask those kinds of questions at the latest press conference- and who
was swatted like a fly by Joe. That's good. Flies need to get swatted.

Whenever you scan a document with OCR software it creates layers as a result of how light reflects off the document. Layers themselves mean nothing.
However what is in those layers does.

I looked at it and I'm no expert but it sure looked fake to me. Like i said, why spend millions to cover up a real birth certificate?

It points to the logical conclusion that President Obama has something to hide.

Whenever you claim a document YOU HAVE NEVER EVEN SEEN is fake, you are an idiot.
I know all about the layers and why they are there.
I also understand that PDF is not the actual birth certificate.
Please tell me how you can call something you have never seen fake?

Plus, you know, there is THIS THREAD.
Sheriff Joe is not claiming that the BC is fake pieced together in Photoshop as proven by layers in a PDF. He is saying the document has super secret
codes on it and only one person in the world knows what those codes mean and that person signed BO's BC and Joe just happened to get the truth from
them.

Soooooo...pick a #ing reality here, birthers.
Is Joe right, or are you all going to stick with that layers BS?

To all of those trying to defend this treasonous criminal..... You look ridiculous.

Its funny how you think its not possible that Obama would cheat- hahahaha.

Hes been a fraud and a phony since day one. You are just too proud to call it what it is.

Try to spin it all you want, its not going to change things.

Get that imposter out of the oval office- he has shamed this country and so have the people who have been hiding the truth or have tried to help hide
the truth. You are all to blame, but you dont care- do you?

Nope- keep those rose colored sunglasses on. It sure is doing you a lot of good.

Personally- I havent engaged in the birther debates because there was no hard evidence.
And at times- I was in denial over some of the reports.

Insulting our intelligence with attempted deflection from the evidence.

What evidence?

He said he’s not questioning Obama’s involvement in the alleged forgery or his legal status but believes a crime occurred.
Hawaii officials have repeatedly confirmed Obama's citizenship, and state officials did again Tuesday.

It also interesting to note:

“It appears that in the case of Hawaii law, any person can obtain a birth certificate if any adult or their parents can prove that they resided
in Hawaii for one year and paid taxes,” he said. “There is no requirement to show that the child itself was actually born in Hawaii or on U.S.
soil.”

So in that case everyone that was born in Hawaii should be viewed with suspicion.

After the investigation, Zullo said the U.S. would have to question the citizenship of anyone with a birth certificate from Hawaii.

Like the "truthers" the "birthers" will twist and fabricate anything to fit their story line. This is almost laughable. What sinister reasons
could their be for Obama to alter or manipulate his S.S.R. card? It beggars the imagination.

Whenever you scan a document with OCR software it creates layers as a result of how light reflects off the document. Layers themselves mean nothing.
However what is in those layers does.

I looked at it and I'm no expert but it sure looked fake to me. Like i said, why spend millions to cover up a real birth certificate?

It points to the logical conclusion that President Obama has something to hide.

Lol the Birth Certificate provided by the White House is 100% Legit.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and
teaching Adobe Illustrator. “You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations. He said the
layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery.

“I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.
Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text.
He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

What do current government officials in Hawaii think about Joes' investigation. It is obvious:

"President Obama was born in Honolulu and his birth certificate is valid," Joshua A. Wisch, a special assistant to Hawaii's attorney general, said
in a statement. "Regarding the latest allegations from a sheriff in Arizona, they are untrue, misinformed, and misconstrue Hawaii law."

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