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Trapped These figures grace the bookstore entrance and show school pride. See news page 6 ( v--i r-i ;? " 5 . V , : .J' I - 1 t ' y if o ; n i ri u o iv"f i4 xzJ LJ v: Li Li KJ tzJ LJ - " Wednesday, October 28, 1998 Volume 61 Number 24 Polygamy in Utah focus of discussion By Tanna Barry asst. news editor-The Signpost Women's Studies Student Association sponsored a panel discussion Tuesday about polygamy in Utah which discussed the legal, psychological, feminist, personal and historical perspectives of it. The five panelists included Weber State University faculty Frank Guliuzza, Becky Johns, Maria Parrilla De Kokal, Tom Kuehls and Kathryn MacKay. Each panelist prepared a short presentation that was suited to their designated perspective. After all the panelists discussed their topic in which many questions were raised by students and visitors.Some students were curious whether polygamy encouraged the women to become more involved in same sex relationships inside their marriage, especially since By Julianne Hancock campus affairs editor-ITAe Signpost It is amazing the difference one vote can make. While this point was reiterated many times in the past four weeks of debate on changing the vote to amend the constitution from three-fourths to two-thirds, student senate decided that one vote wasn't enough to align the student senate's constitution with other constitutional models in the United Suites. The final vote was nine nays, six yeas and two abstentions. After an emotional debate on Monday, senate failed a bill that has been described as "pure logic," and at the same time a bill that "promotes sponsor John Shaw's hidden political agenda." In the past weeks, Shaw and his supporters have tried to convince his opponents that the bill was only fair for the minority. Mike Chertudi explained that with the current vote, only five senators can prevent measures from being passed, which produces a hurdle for the minority voice. Black students senator John Shaw began the final debate saying, "It's Ume to listen to the logic, it's time to listen to the majority of students, it's time to stop pretending we're voting for our constituencies, it's time to work together."The main focus of the debate came down to what students want. Many senators said they w ere voting purely in reflection of their constituency. Non-traditional students senator Kelsey Babcock said she was voting against the measure because Shaw's MA there was only one man to many wives. "Logically, one would think that would happen," said De Kokal who explored the psychological aspect of polygamy. Other panelists agreed that it is likely that it would happen, but it wouldn't be sanctioned activity. "It would really be looked down upon," said Johns who explored the personal perspective of polygamy. Johns, a communications instructor, has recorded several oral histories about polygamy. She spent a lot of time studying The True and Living Church, whose headquarters is in Manti, Utah, and its affiliation with polygamy. "They call it a celestial marriage, not polygamy," Johns said. According to Johns, this is an important part of their religion. See Polygamy page 7 4 If if: .A (' 3 i-,f ,.iit hi John Shaw meets opposition to arguments "aren't relative." Babcock responded to Shaw's belief that the Student Senate Constitution should be modeled after the United States Constitution. Babcock said that to amend the U.S. Constitution, the amendment had to be approved by the house and senate with a two-thirds vote, and then raUfied by both legislatures willi a three-fourths vote. Roydon Julandcr, chairman of the political science department, clarified the amendment procedures of the U.S. Constituuon. After passage with a two-thirds vote in both senate and the house, the measure is sent to the states to be ratified. Both legislative houses pass the measure with a simple majority. If three-fourths of the states have both houses pass this, then the amendment is inserted. This just makes the day gloomier - A wrecked car was placed by the Stewart Bell Tower for Red Ribbon Week to show the effects of drunk driving. Though students were usually running to find shelter from the rain, many stopped to check out the damage Tuesday. SI dominates senate Si his bill to change voting on the Babcock said WSU can't be held comparable to the U.S. Constitution. "Everybody is going to be different in their own perspective matter," Babcock said in a later comment When the discussion about constituencies was raised again, social and behavioral science senator Kristi Eversole questioned the validity of the response senators were getting from their area councils. Eversole said she was concerned w ith the way Babcock went to her constituency. Babcock said she told her area council her opinion on the measure and then asked them how they wanted her to vote. Babcock has spoken against the bill since it v,as fu st proposed. LaunoChicano Hispanic students senator Fabian Arpan'lo acrecJ with 1 N bylaws in the senate meeting. Eversole's concerns, as did international students senator Sammy Inkumsah. "Many have had a pre-mindset," Inkumsah said. "Senator Babcock said that she had researched the bill, and if she would have done so in an open mind, she wouldn't have said that we aren't comparable to the U.S. Constitution."If we arcn 't comparable to the U.S. Constitution, than what are we doing here?" Inkumsah asked. In his first remarks in a senate meeting, health professions senator Jeremy Kjar said he presented the pros and cons of the bill, and while his area council noted easy opposition, they w anted the vote to stay at three-fourths. Monday's meeting was well attended, with over 25 sM.'ents who T ' 4 r . 'it) $ came to see the discussion. Many wanted to speak, but Lire senate denied to be opened to a committee of tire whole. After almost 40 minutes of debate, Shaw gave up on further discussion and called for a roll call vote, which would make the record public. Nikki Austin, Associated Students of Weber State University academic vice president, read the rules for a roll call vote, as Shaw sat back in his scat, repeating "omigod" and shaking his head. The room was silent as tire names were called. After the bill failed, the room was silent. Shaw requested time under Announcements in the agenda, and a five-minute recess was called. Students who were prepared to make statements regarding the bill, but were denied permission to do so, left immediately after the vote. Hinckley contacted for availability for commencements WSU President Paul Thompson spoke to the senate body regarding the selection process of commencement speakers and honorary degree recipients. The process begins at a committee from the Board of Trustees, who choose the nominations and narrow them down a year in advance to ensure the availability of the speaker. hi a closed-dixu session, the Board of Trustees then reviews nominations and approves out. 11. e name is sent to Thompson's office, w ho men contacts the speaker to ei; ,u;c they are available for the div. inside post

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Trapped These figures grace the bookstore entrance and show school pride. See news page 6 ( v--i r-i ;? " 5 . V , : .J' I - 1 t ' y if o ; n i ri u o iv"f i4 xzJ LJ v: Li Li KJ tzJ LJ - " Wednesday, October 28, 1998 Volume 61 Number 24 Polygamy in Utah focus of discussion By Tanna Barry asst. news editor-The Signpost Women's Studies Student Association sponsored a panel discussion Tuesday about polygamy in Utah which discussed the legal, psychological, feminist, personal and historical perspectives of it. The five panelists included Weber State University faculty Frank Guliuzza, Becky Johns, Maria Parrilla De Kokal, Tom Kuehls and Kathryn MacKay. Each panelist prepared a short presentation that was suited to their designated perspective. After all the panelists discussed their topic in which many questions were raised by students and visitors.Some students were curious whether polygamy encouraged the women to become more involved in same sex relationships inside their marriage, especially since By Julianne Hancock campus affairs editor-ITAe Signpost It is amazing the difference one vote can make. While this point was reiterated many times in the past four weeks of debate on changing the vote to amend the constitution from three-fourths to two-thirds, student senate decided that one vote wasn't enough to align the student senate's constitution with other constitutional models in the United Suites. The final vote was nine nays, six yeas and two abstentions. After an emotional debate on Monday, senate failed a bill that has been described as "pure logic," and at the same time a bill that "promotes sponsor John Shaw's hidden political agenda." In the past weeks, Shaw and his supporters have tried to convince his opponents that the bill was only fair for the minority. Mike Chertudi explained that with the current vote, only five senators can prevent measures from being passed, which produces a hurdle for the minority voice. Black students senator John Shaw began the final debate saying, "It's Ume to listen to the logic, it's time to listen to the majority of students, it's time to stop pretending we're voting for our constituencies, it's time to work together."The main focus of the debate came down to what students want. Many senators said they w ere voting purely in reflection of their constituency. Non-traditional students senator Kelsey Babcock said she was voting against the measure because Shaw's MA there was only one man to many wives. "Logically, one would think that would happen," said De Kokal who explored the psychological aspect of polygamy. Other panelists agreed that it is likely that it would happen, but it wouldn't be sanctioned activity. "It would really be looked down upon," said Johns who explored the personal perspective of polygamy. Johns, a communications instructor, has recorded several oral histories about polygamy. She spent a lot of time studying The True and Living Church, whose headquarters is in Manti, Utah, and its affiliation with polygamy. "They call it a celestial marriage, not polygamy," Johns said. According to Johns, this is an important part of their religion. See Polygamy page 7 4 If if: .A (' 3 i-,f ,.iit hi John Shaw meets opposition to arguments "aren't relative." Babcock responded to Shaw's belief that the Student Senate Constitution should be modeled after the United States Constitution. Babcock said that to amend the U.S. Constitution, the amendment had to be approved by the house and senate with a two-thirds vote, and then raUfied by both legislatures willi a three-fourths vote. Roydon Julandcr, chairman of the political science department, clarified the amendment procedures of the U.S. Constituuon. After passage with a two-thirds vote in both senate and the house, the measure is sent to the states to be ratified. Both legislative houses pass the measure with a simple majority. If three-fourths of the states have both houses pass this, then the amendment is inserted. This just makes the day gloomier - A wrecked car was placed by the Stewart Bell Tower for Red Ribbon Week to show the effects of drunk driving. Though students were usually running to find shelter from the rain, many stopped to check out the damage Tuesday. SI dominates senate Si his bill to change voting on the Babcock said WSU can't be held comparable to the U.S. Constitution. "Everybody is going to be different in their own perspective matter," Babcock said in a later comment When the discussion about constituencies was raised again, social and behavioral science senator Kristi Eversole questioned the validity of the response senators were getting from their area councils. Eversole said she was concerned w ith the way Babcock went to her constituency. Babcock said she told her area council her opinion on the measure and then asked them how they wanted her to vote. Babcock has spoken against the bill since it v,as fu st proposed. LaunoChicano Hispanic students senator Fabian Arpan'lo acrecJ with 1 N bylaws in the senate meeting. Eversole's concerns, as did international students senator Sammy Inkumsah. "Many have had a pre-mindset," Inkumsah said. "Senator Babcock said that she had researched the bill, and if she would have done so in an open mind, she wouldn't have said that we aren't comparable to the U.S. Constitution."If we arcn 't comparable to the U.S. Constitution, than what are we doing here?" Inkumsah asked. In his first remarks in a senate meeting, health professions senator Jeremy Kjar said he presented the pros and cons of the bill, and while his area council noted easy opposition, they w anted the vote to stay at three-fourths. Monday's meeting was well attended, with over 25 sM.'ents who T ' 4 r . 'it) $ came to see the discussion. Many wanted to speak, but Lire senate denied to be opened to a committee of tire whole. After almost 40 minutes of debate, Shaw gave up on further discussion and called for a roll call vote, which would make the record public. Nikki Austin, Associated Students of Weber State University academic vice president, read the rules for a roll call vote, as Shaw sat back in his scat, repeating "omigod" and shaking his head. The room was silent as tire names were called. After the bill failed, the room was silent. Shaw requested time under Announcements in the agenda, and a five-minute recess was called. Students who were prepared to make statements regarding the bill, but were denied permission to do so, left immediately after the vote. Hinckley contacted for availability for commencements WSU President Paul Thompson spoke to the senate body regarding the selection process of commencement speakers and honorary degree recipients. The process begins at a committee from the Board of Trustees, who choose the nominations and narrow them down a year in advance to ensure the availability of the speaker. hi a closed-dixu session, the Board of Trustees then reviews nominations and approves out. 11. e name is sent to Thompson's office, w ho men contacts the speaker to ei; ,u;c they are available for the div. inside post