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Hi Guys, Sorry for being OT. A quick question though . I have a 11.2 Channel Yamaha Z11 AV Amplifier . Will it make sense to go for the latest receivers just for the sake of Atmos and DTS X . Thanks in advance.
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No Bluray is "Mixed" to any sound format. Once you rip and encode then you can do all this stuff, but that also no one dose. If a move has 5.1 soundtrack on Bluray, rippers do not upmix to 7.1, that's practically ruining the sound stage. Today most of the movies are 7.1 DTS-MA or DD-THD. And many movies are coming with Atmos, which is growing day by day. Also all movies which are released in Atmos will almost always have DTSMA or THD 7.1 track

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Hi Guys, Sorry for being OT. A quick question though . I have a 11.2 Channel Yamaha Z11 AV Amplifier . Will it make sense to go for the latest receivers just for the sake of Atmos and DTS X . Thanks in advance.
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1. Less titles are in True Atmos ATM, almost every movie is in 7.1 these days.
2. Surround back channel has the more or less same information as overhead channels in terms of effects
3. bipole speakers not for filling gap, and should be avoided at all costs, unless huge space constraints for the Surround and S.Back speakers
4. yes, but when it comes to "immersion" 2 Atmos speakers paired with 4 surrounds gives a better experience
5. same as 4
6. same as 5
7 same as 6.

And this is by my personal experience, as a Home Theater enthusiast and installed couple personally by me I can vouch..... 7.1.2 gives more immersive experience than 5.1.4

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Okay... I am a little confused with the Dolby speaker placement guidelines. I am attaching a few pics of my Living room , i intend to go full 7.1.4 Atmos. The guidelines just give a side profile of the overhead speakers and tell that the top speakers should be 45 degree ahead and top back should be 45degree behind the listener.

I have a false ceiling that juts about 2 feet into the room .. you can see in the attached pics.

My question is :

Would it be possible to install some in-ceiling speakers into this false ceiling or would i need to attach them on the bare concrete ceiling?

There is no requirement for them to be "looking into" / tilted to the listener , right? they could be just downfiring direct speakers?

Since you are seated close to the back wall, it looks like you'll have to install the rear height speakers in the false ceiling. The front heights location will likely be on the concrete ceiling (assuming you want to place them at the Dolby recommended locations).

There is no requirement for them to be "looking into" / tilted to the listener , right? they could be just downfiring direct speakers?

I wanted something small, good looking, highly resolving speakers, which can be easily wall mounted and I went with this..Monitor Audio MASS 5.0
They do not go below 80 hz, and I didn't expect them to. I'll be anyways using LFE+ to route all LF response to subwoofer, which is specifically designed for that purpose. I'm pretty happy with the performance of these. You can get them at 70k for 5 speakers. If you can get from UK each will cost around 10k from Amazon UK.

Getting a big sound, and better Low end punch from small speakers is a biggest challenge for speaker designers, and it's never adequate. A DIY with full range speakers from Fostex can be attempted to fulfill your needs.

Get as close as possible with the Top Rear (mount them as far back as you can). Even with the Top Rears not at 45 degrees elevation behind you, the benefits are still worth it. 2 speakers overhead let you hear left vs right movement. 4 speakers overhead let you hear left vs right AND front vs back movement.

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Get as close as possible with the Top Rear (mount them as far back as you can). Even with the Top Rears not at 45 degrees elevation behind you, the benefits are still worth it. 2 speakers overhead let you hear left vs right movement. 4 speakers overhead let you hear left vs right AND front vs back movement.

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I wanted something small, good looking, highly resolving speakers, which can be easily wall mounted and I went with this..Monitor Audio MASS 5.0
They do not go below 80 hz, and I didn't expect them to. I'll be anyways using LFE+ to route all LF response to subwoofer, which is specifically designed for that purpose. I'm pretty happy with the performance of these. You can get them at 70k for 5 speakers. If you can get from UK each will cost around 10k from Amazon UK.

Getting a big sound, and better Low end punch from small speakers is a biggest challenge for speaker designers, and it's never adequate. A DIY with full range speakers from Fostex can be attempted to fulfill your needs.

Yes you can mount them close to where the false ceiling meets the wall but you would have to bring your surrounds down.
If possible move your seating a bit forward and take the height speakers to the ceiling.
You can have rear ceiling speakers close to the wall.

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After reading the whole thread,i have come to conclusion that 7.1.2 (with single or 2 subs) or 7.1.4 (with single or 2 subs)
is the winner to experience true surround/atmos effects,but you also need atleast 3 to 6 feet from sitting position to the
rear wall in order to install rear Surrounds.

The sweet spot position also depends on how big is the screen size is,after deciding this then comes the option of
6th and 7th rear channel whether it can be implemented or not,atmos spks (2 or 4) is of no issue in any room as it goes
in the ceiling.

i have a room size of 11x22 which can be extended by 5ft,so 7.1 is an easy option for me.