emotion and some feeling or some fun like we always rememberfromronaldreagan. thereyou go again. i'm not going to use the age issue against you. just a little thing like that can make you human. >> just show a little bit more personality. i take it that's what you're saying. he's got the facts. he's got the background, the skill, but has to show more personality. is that right? >> yeah. on the facts, on the logic, he's going to be powerful. and the second part is the part people are waiting for, they're looking for. and i think he can accomplish it. and i think if he does, he will then win the debate in a bigger sense. >> how did you prepare for these debates against him? >> well, of course it wasn't just against him it was against as you remember because you moderated some, it was eight, ten people. it was really -- part of what you saw there was everybody was fighting for time. they're not going to have that problem. they're all going to have an equal amount of time. you're not going to see as much personal interchange with people kind of breaking into each other to try to get so