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Re: 31% of mass shootings...

There are parallels to other countries. In Japan, there was a mass knife attack that killed 19 people. Should we use this as a reason to stop eating meat and ban knives as they are both harmful? Statistically, it would appear there are more knife attacks in Japan than there are in the US. I would also be willing to wager Japan leads the world in attacks by sword, which is nearly unheard of in the western world. Very interesting...

Re: 31% of mass shootings...

And it's even easier to kill larger numbers of people with bombs than it is with guns. Look at all of the bombs in the Middle East. How many bomb attacks do we have in the US? Are there lobbies to protect bomb owners and hobbyists?

Btw, have you heard about all of the massive truck and van attacks in Europe by jihadis, or as they say "dark skinned Europeans"? Germany is working hard to invest in special concrete that is impervious to being rammed by tractors. I hate to break it to you but the single common denominator in all of these attacks is people with murderous intent. If we could find a way to ban these types of people, I would be in agreement.

The only reason there are 300 million guns is because of the power of the NRA

All I can say, dude, is I'll bet you have never been in a gun shop or gun show or shooting event in the United States. Everyone in the room would set you straight in a heartbeat, especially the veterans and police. There's a reason we had massive gun sales and ammo shortages when Obama was elected and even the US .gov buying ammo to keep it out of private hands and it had nothing to do with the NRA. Many gun owners feel the NRA has betrayed them.

Re: 31% of mass shootings...

Originally Posted by Ross

300 million guns in circulation in the USA is absurd. Period.

There is nothing particularly absurd about 300 million guns in circulation in the USA (with an approx. human population of 300 million). Maybe it's just me, Ross, but I tend to see absurdity in things that are totally unanticipated, not in things that are reasonably expected.

Your wording is silly. Provable proven false flag? ok, while a 'possible' false flag, nothing has ever been proven, in any way shape or form.

Proof is in the preponderance. Not in mainstream media accounts. Not in establishment rubber-stamps. Not in wishful minds immune to the dark reality of the pyramid power structure with its hyper-concentrated control of natural and human resources, to the benefit of the very few and the abuse of the very many ... a reality of lies, deceptions, assaults, murders, rapes, pillages, and of course, false flags, etc. Not even in Zook's, Ted's, or Ross's opinions.

Proof is in the mathematics of preponderance. All the provable facts of Port Arthur, taken together, point to an unassailable conclusion that Port Arthur was a state-sponsored terrorist event. Reasonable conjecture beyond this conclusion can then append reasons as to why. Gun control being the leading explanation.

Pax

ps: For the same reason (the mathematics of preponderance), we can also safely conclude that Man never landed on the Moon. I will provide more evidence for this on that other thread.

ps2: Here, it should be noted that eternal vigilance is a must and intellectual laziness is a slick road to pratfalls. I'm not immune to pratfalls myself, as attested by my intellectual laziness when I unwittingly posted a fake Stanley Kubrick video. In the end, being wrong is not a sin. Refusing to correct one's error, OTOH, can be. Being on the outside looking in through a foggy window pane, we are expected to make mistakes. Being truthseekers, we are expected to correct our mistakes. That said, I wish you would revisit all the mass shootings in the past decade or so, in the USA and outside, and see if you can actually find one that is genuine. Unless you find the energy and stomach to do that, it's a waste of time for anyone - much less me - to tell you that you are indeed propagating the error.

ps3: The "Stanley Kubrick" fake video to throw truth hounds off the track (and other mischievous attempts by those set against the truths) notwithstanding, the mathematics of preponderance exposes the reality of an untramped Moon, at least wrt man's footprints.

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Re: 31% of mass shootings...

Originally Posted by sjkted

All I can say, dude, is I'll bet you have never been in a gun shop or gun show or shooting event in the United States. Everyone in the room would set you straight in a heartbeat, especially the veterans and police.

The same crop who voted in a moron?

Ted, no matter how you try to explain your position on gun ownership...the numbers of guns = madness.

Re: 31% of mass shootings...

Ted, no matter how you try to explain your position on gun ownership...it's madness.

Kind of a stupid statement. When you have two morons to choose from and have to choose one, you end up with a moron.

It is not just my position. It is the position of practically all of the owners of the aforementioned 300 million guns. I have been at those gun events and you will find extremely little difference of opinion on what the right to bear arms shall not be infringed means. Kind of like preaching to the choir so to speak. I honestly think there is a cultural divide you absolutely cannot understand until you experience it. It is vastly different on the ground so to speak than what you would get from reading the media.

Edit: Since you probably can't visit, here is a random video with some Q&A from a show in Missouri. Listen to what all of the people are stating on the video and listen to how that contrasts with your ridiculous statement about the NRA.

Re: 31% of mass shootings...

All the provable facts of Port Arthur, taken together, point to an unassailable conclusion that Port Arthur was a state-sponsored terrorist event.

Here you go again, there is zero proof only conspiracy and conjecture. You've done the same with Sandy hook, moon landings and Fukushima...we can offer possibility, we can offer anomalous accounts but by and large the bulk of them are easily explained. Now I'm not saying false flag events don't occur, they indeed do, but not all events are FF...

anyways...the OP stat is still an interesting one compared to countries that do not have the same gun numbers per capita equating into mass shooting events.

Re: 31% of mass shootings...

Originally Posted by sjkted

It is not just my position.

It would be very interesting if we could take out the politics, the NRA, the 2nd amendment and other profit driven enterprises and allow all citizens in the USA to hold an unbiased, above board referendum on the current status quo of gun ownership.