Yes, the most famous shootouts were probably in 2009 Heineken Cup semifinal between Leicester and Cardiff:

However, in Brazilian Super 8 final the shootout was by drop goals. They played 80 minutes + 2 extra times (without scoring!) and then kicked the drop goals (5 each side... loads of errors, making it dramatic). Here the video my website did:

Brazil will keep its green shirt as the alternative kit after CBRu promote a public poll about this. In the poll the public decided between green and blue.

Blue is the alternative kit of the football and volleyball teams. Basketball is usually green, but sometimes white or blue too, while handebol uses green. Of course yellow is the colour for the main kits in all sports.

I prefer green. I don't like the idea to look like the football teams. In fact, I don't like our current blue shorts. It would be better to go back and use green shorts in the main kit IMO.

In fact, I would love to see Brazil using a yellow and green striped shirt. A green and yellow Pumas-style shirt would be awesome.

The 2017 Men's Super Sevens (Brazilian Sevens Series) will have 2 tournaments: the Qualy Tournament, in São José dos Campos, on February 19th and 20th, open to all clubs interested in the competition, and the Final Tournament, in Niterói, on March 19th and 20th.

The Final Tournament will have 12 clubs: the 6 state champions and the 6 best clubs of the Qualy.

The 6 states organized their sevens championships between november and december and the champions are:

Clubs from other states must take part in the Qualy tournament to be able do play for the national title. The Qualy is also open the other clubs from the 6 states. In 2016 São José won the Men's Super Sevens, but SPAC beat them last month in the São Paulo Sevens Championship final. CBRu gave São José the host of the 2017 Qualy. Fair.

Worth to note that Brazilian15-a-side season starts in March with the State Championships. Most of them will probably start the weekend after the Super Sevens.

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The Brazilian Rugby season has just ended and here you are the complete list of all champions in Brazil! Well, I expect to have not missed anyone. I listed the champions of all competition organized by national or local unions (associated or not to CBRu) + local independent leagues. Men's and women's, senior or junior, XVs or 7s. I haven't listed minor sevens tournaments, trophys between two clubs, any rugby below U15, beach rugby, touch rugby or tag rugby.

The Brazilian Rugby Union (CBRu) unvailed the new model for the Brazilian top flight.

In 2017 the Super 8 will be reduce. The competition won't have the current 14 rounds anymore. It will be just 7 rounds, due to costs, with each facing all the others just once. However, the playoffs will start in the quarter finals. Yes, ALL clubs wiil qualify (I believe without relegation)

The reason is 2018. As CBRu can't anymore afford all those transportation costs (until 2016 CBRu was paying transport for all clubs) they will change the model to a regionalized competition, with more clubs, split in regional groups. They are still studying how it will work. More rational and realistic now with less money.

The other new development for 2017 is that CBRu will lounch an Interacademies competition, with 3 rounds, TBC soon. CBRu now runs 3 high performance academies for top players, in São Paulo, São José and Florianópolis. This is to secure that top players won't be damaged by the smaller Super 8 next year. This experiment can lead to regional teams in the future.

It is worth to note that different from other big Southern nations Brazil DOESN'T have regional representative teams! Our rugby is made JUST by amateur clubs. It will be a new thing.

victorsra wrote:The Brazilian Rugby Union (CBRu) unvailed the new model for the Brazilian top flight.

In 2017 the Super 8 will be reduce. The competition won't have the current 14 rounds anymore. It will be just 7 rounds, due to costs, with each facing all the others just once. However, the playoffs will start in the quarter finals. Yes, ALL clubs wiil qualify (I believe without relegation)

The reason is 2018. As CBRu can't anymore afford all those transportation costs (until 2016 CBRu was paying transport for all clubs) they will change the model to a regionalized competition, with more clubs, split in regional groups. They are still studying how it will work. More rational and realistic now with less money.

The other new development for 2017 is that CBRu will lounch an Interacademies competition, with 3 rounds, TBC soon. CBRu now runs 3 high performance academies for top players, in São Paulo, São José and Florianópolis. This is to secure that top players won't be damaged by the smaller Super 8 next year. This experiment can lead to regional teams in the future.

It is worth to note that different from other big Southern nations Brazil DOESN'T have regional representative teams! Our rugby is made JUST by amateur clubs. It will be a new thing.

Yes, a lot. Usually in a friendly way, but not always. Many regional differences and rivalries (and prejudice too). I think it is just like Australia.

In football's amateur era (until the 1930s) the state teams were in fact very popular in football (São Paulo vs Rio was huge with deep political tensions.. Minas Gerais and Rio Grande do Sul always powerful too). And rugby also had the São Paulo vs Rio representatives anual match. But with football turning professional this was lost. In rugby's case, the state teams ended when in the 1960s São Paulo was virtualy the only state with rugby. It took until the 2000s to see SP with not much more than half of the national championship clubs. Still in 2017 4 of the Super 8 clubs are from São Paulo state. But in 2016 for the first time the big Super 8 final had no SP club (which is good!).

victorsra wrote:Yes, a lot. Usually in a friendly way, but not always. Many regional differences and rivalries (and prejudice too). I think it is just like Australia.

In football's amateur era (until the 1930s) the state teams were in fact very popular in football (São Paulo vs Rio was huge with deep political tensions.. Minas Gerais and Rio Grande do Sul always powerful too). And rugby also had the São Paulo vs Rio representatives anual match. But with football turning professional this was lost. In rugby's case, the state teams ended when in the 1960s São Paulo was virtualy the only state with rugby. It took until the 2000s to see SP with not much more than half of the national championship clubs. Still in 2017 4 of the Super 8 clubs are from São Paulo state.

That's interesting to learn and could mean this move toward establishing a more regional league could have a future. I think it's a positive move in terms of providing higher quality competition.

victorsra wrote:The Brazilian Rugby Union (CBRu) unvailed the new model for the Brazilian top flight.

In 2017 the Super 8 will be reduce. The competition won't have the current 14 rounds anymore. It will be just 7 rounds, due to costs, with each facing all the others just once. However, the playoffs will start in the quarter finals. Yes, ALL clubs wiil qualify (I believe without relegation)

The reason is 2018. As CBRu can't anymore afford all those transportation costs (until 2016 CBRu was paying transport for all clubs) they will change the model to a regionalized competition, with more clubs, split in regional groups. They are still studying how it will work. More rational and realistic now with less money.

The other new development for 2017 is that CBRu will lounch an Interacademies competition, with 3 rounds, TBC soon. CBRu now runs 3 high performance academies for top players, in São Paulo, São José and Florianópolis. This is to secure that top players won't be damaged by the smaller Super 8 next year. This experiment can lead to regional teams in the future.

It is worth to note that different from other big Southern nations Brazil DOESN'T have regional representative teams! Our rugby is made JUST by amateur clubs. It will be a new thing.

Do Brazilians actively relate to which state/regions they are from?

Always.

State identity is truly strong here. People feel proud of their states, we've a lot of inter-state rivalries, etc. Despite this, national unity is solid.

A Brazilian feel himself, first of all, as a Brazilian. Then, as a Paulista/Amazonense/Mineiro/etc (state). And nothing more. We don't feel a Latin American identity, e.g (which is sad).

edit: The people from the 9 Northeastern States have also a very strong and historical regional identity as Nordestinos. For example: if someone from São Paulo offends the state of Ceará (which belongs to Northeast), a listener from the state of Paraíba (idem) will certainly fell offended too.

Working Class Rugger wrote:That's interesting to learn and could mean this move toward establishing a more regional league could have a future. I think it's a positive move in terms of providing higher quality competition.

Of course

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victorsra wrote:The Brazilian Rugby Union (CBRu) unvailed the new model for the Brazilian top flight.

In 2017 the Super 8 will be reduce. The competition won't have the current 14 rounds anymore. It will be just 7 rounds, due to costs, with each facing all the others just once. However, the playoffs will start in the quarter finals. Yes, ALL clubs wiil qualify (I believe without relegation)

The reason is 2018. As CBRu can't anymore afford all those transportation costs (until 2016 CBRu was paying transport for all clubs) they will change the model to a regionalized competition, with more clubs, split in regional groups. They are still studying how it will work. More rational and realistic now with less money.

The other new development for 2017 is that CBRu will lounch an Interacademies competition, with 3 rounds, TBC soon. CBRu now runs 3 high performance academies for top players, in São Paulo, São José and Florianópolis. This is to secure that top players won't be damaged by the smaller Super 8 next year. This experiment can lead to regional teams in the future.

It is worth to note that different from other big Southern nations Brazil DOESN'T have regional representative teams! Our rugby is made JUST by amateur clubs. It will be a new thing.

Do Brazilians actively relate to which state/regions they are from?

Always.

State identity is truly strong here. People feel proud of their states, we've a lot of inter-state rivalries, etc. Despite this, national unity is solid.

A Brazilian feel himself, first of all, as a Brazilian. Then, as a Paulista/Amazonense/Mineiro/etc (state). And nothing more. We don't feel a Latin American identity, for example (which is sad).

Very similar to here in Australia. We're Australian first but we all do identify via our states domestically. Then oddly enough where we are from in those states such as I'm from Sydney as opposed to Wollongong or Newcastle etc.

I can tell better about São Paulo state. Here there are many intercity rivalries too. And the classic opposition Capital vs Country (we call São Paulo City as "Capital", because it is the state's capital).

When São José Rugby Club (from São José dos Campos, an important city 100km from São Paulo City) wins against a "Capital" club they sing a song calling themselves as "Mighty Caipiras". "Caipira" is a name that Capital people use to offend those from the other cities of the state (except the coastal cities), more or less in can translate it as "redneck". But São José sing it in a proud way, like if they were "defying" the capital.

This capital vs country rivalry is common in almost all states.

Another interesting situation is Rio Grande do Sul, that has perhaps the strongest regional sentiment at the point that some more radical people there beleve they could be an independent nation. It is usually treated more as a joke, but in the past they fought for independence indeed. There they have an unique Latin American cross border identity, because many areas in Rio Grande do Sul have strong ties with Uruguay and Argentina.

Note: In all sports São José's rivalries are against the other Vale do Paraiba (Eastern São Paulo state area) cities, usualy Taubaté city, that is not strong in rugby. However, with Jacareí (a city close to São José) growing in rugby we are already seeing an aditional and very interesting regional good rivalry in rugby there.

I can tell better about São Paulo state. Here there are many intercity rivalries too. And the classic opposition Capital vs Country (we call São Paulo City as "Capital", because it is the state's capital).

When São José Rugby Club (from São José dos Campos, an important city 100km from São Paulo City) wins against a "Capital" club they sing a song calling themselves as "Mighty Caipiras". "Caipira" is a name that Capital people use to offend those from the other cities of the state (except the coastal cities), more or less in can translate it as "redneck". But São José sing it in a proud way, like if they were "defying" the capital.

This capital vs country rivalry is common in almost all states.

Another interesting situation is Rio Grande do Sul, that has perhaps the strongest regional sentiment at the point that some more radical people there beleve they could be an independent nation. It is usually treated more as a joke, but in the past they fought for independence indeed. There they have an unique Latin American cross border identity, because many areas in Rio Grande do Sul have strong ties with Uruguay and Argentina.

Note: In all sports São José's rivalries are against the other Vale do Paraiba (Eastern São Paulo state area) cities, usualy Taubaté city, that is not strong in rugby. However, with Jacareí (a city close to São José) growing in rugby we are already seeing an aditional and very interesting regional good rivalry in rugby there.

WR has stated they are going to bring Brazil into their HP systems. Which would be great if it involves either one of two outcomes in my opinion. Either the ability to establish more HP academies allowing for this structure to grow or setting up some kind of Sth American 'Super Rugby' like competition.

Working Class Rugger wrote:Very similar to here in Australia. We're Australian first but we all do identify via our states domestically. Then oddly enough where we are from in those states such as I'm from Sydney as opposed to Wollongong or Newcastle etc.

Typical characteristics of continental countries (literally, in Australian case)

Working Class Rugger wrote:WR has stated they are going to bring Brazil into their HP systems. Which would be great if it involves either one of two outcomes in my opinion. Either the ability to establish more HP academies allowing for this structure to grow or setting up some kind of Sth American 'Super Rugby' like competition.

It's very interesting, but IMO the Brazilian priority should be expand the sport inside the country, strengthen clubs and expand competitions (today, Super 8 only acepts clubs from 6 states in 27!).

Is relevant to remember the Brazilian tradition of sport CLUBS, not franchises. I really don't know if a franchising competition of a minority sport like rugby could work well.

Probably a 'Libertadores' (the football south american champions league) like competition should work better.

Awesome news from São Paulo city. A young club called São Bento Rugby Clube, that is currently playing São Paulo Championship second division, transformed an abandoned area in a small park located in an important central neighbourhood into a rugby-only field, partnering with local sub-municipality. They got highlights in major newspapers for this. Now we have another rugby field in São Paulo City, that has many clubs, but few good areas do play.

And another rugby field can be reopened soon. Bandeirantes Saracens (Brazilian Saracens' partner) is working to make their field, also located in one of the best São Paulo city areas, suitable for official matches. Its dimensions are not big, but they are working on that. They have a long partnership with the University of São Paulo's Law School, that owns a alumni club and rented its field to Bandeirantes, that transformed it in a rugby-only field. Let's wait.

São Paulo City has other 3 rugby-only fields: the historic São Paulo Athletc Club field (SPAC), the São Paulo Rugby Union public field (located in a park in Tatuapé district, Eastern São Paulo) and the University of São Paulo rugby field (that has now permanent rugby posts and lines).