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SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Steven Brooks. And Steven, you like to teach on the anointing.

STEVEN: Yes.

SID: What is the anointing?

STEVEN: Sid, the anointing is the power of God’s Holy Spirit to remove burdens, destroy yokes and do it in a way that seems easy. The anointing, when we think of anointing we often think of oil, of somebody being anointed with oil, but that that oil is slippery. And God can do things that we can never do. We might struggle to get it done, but God can come in one second with that anointing. It’s slippery, so fast, so easy, often times the miracle is done and we’re puzzled just trying to figure it out because it happened so easy. Many times it just flows just like oil does.

SID: What happens when you teach on it? Give me a specific.

STEVEN: What happens is those burdens, many times the burdens rest on a person’s shoulder, tries to weigh a person down. The burdens begin to get lifted.

SID: It’s almost like the oil causes it to slip off.

STEVEN: It slips off. Then there’s the yoke. The yoke goes around the neck. The yoke is that last thing that the enemy tries to have on a person to hold them down. But that anointing snaps that yoke. That yoke is not only broken, it’s absolutely destroyed and that’s why when a person receives God’s healing power or that anointing of the spirit they can stay healed. That thing can be destroyed and gone from their life forever.

SID: Tell me about that person with the spine that was bad.

STEVEN: Well I was ministering down a healing line, Sid, and just ministering in that healing and anointing, and the anointing makes it easy for me to minister. There’s no strain. And so often times I don’t have to just really hit somebody or lay hands on them strongly. I always try to use a gentleness. But often times I just touch a person. And recently I just gently touched a lady and she was absolutely healed of a major degenerative spine problem, just instantly healed just by very simple touch. That’s how powerful the anointing is.

SID: I’ve got to hear about when he is speaking about the anointing in the Himalayas and the golden raining came down. Tell me what happened.

STEVEN: Sid, that was a powerful meeting up in the Himalayan mountain region. We had about 400 young people in the meeting, most in their late teens, some in their 20s, up to the age of 29. And the anointing was so strong in the meetings, first of all, the fragrance of the Lord just blew through the room and yokes began to be absolutely destroyed off of people’s lives. And some of these young people, Sid, had heavy addictions with backgrounds in drug usage or tremendous sexual abuse, or sexual morality, and this tremendous freedom began to come to the place, and God began to deliver the young people, and it looked liked if you were to just walk into the meeting you would have thought a bomb went off. It was one of the most drunken services I’d ever seen in my life, even some of the grown adults, spirit-filled believers for years where their assistants were wiped out by the spirit. One man that weighed over 200 pounds, very dedicated worker in the Lord’s ministry, had to be carried out of the meeting, and he had to be carried one mile back to the lodge where he was staying at. Just powerful, powerful–

SID: Just overcome with the presence of God.

STEVEN: Just tremendous overcome. And overcome, not for 20 minutes, all night long for six

or eight, or even 10 hours just people got moved.

SID: Why does God do this when you’re teaching the anointing?

STEVEN: It’s the teaching anointing mixed with the hunger. Those two things come together. There’s a catalyst of people wanting to be set free. The Lord wants them to be set free, and so that anointing hits their faith and it causes the chain reaction in the spirit realm.

SID: Tell me in India about the person with the chunks of flesh.

STEVEN: I was ministering in India last year, Sid, and when I went to the meeting to minister there were no easy cases. It was all hard cases. There were no headaches or no little arthritis in the elbow. It was major diseases. Either it was leprosy, people with body parts missing, people with chunks of flesh falling off. Tremendously hard cases. And I began to pray for some of the Christians first, “God, begin to heal them.” The Hindus saw that. The Hindus came to the meeting with no faith in Jesus as Messiah, but they saw the miracles, and they came and when they saw what God was doing they jumped up in the healing. God began to heal the Hindus. Many of them just gave their hearts to the Lord there on the spot. But Sid, even as I was ministering there was a young woman in her early 20s. I could see her. She was laid out on the front row. They brought her to the meeting. They literally carried her into the meeting. She was blind, paralyzed and demon-possessed. God did an incredible miracle with her. They carried her up into the line and I laid hands on her. I knew the anointing of Jesus went enter her body, but they carried her off. When they carried her off she looked almost exactly the same as she did before I prayed for her. But the next morning the crowds had swollen. We’re well into several thousand people in the meeting now. At the height of the praise and worship when everybody had had their hands raised worshiping Jesus, in walked that young woman absolutely totally healed. All the paralysis gone, her eyesight restored, and she had given her heart to Jesus and rays of light were literally streaming out of her face. Everybody saw it. The church almost fell out. It absolutely shook the church. It shook the community. I just returned from India. She’s still saved today. She was a Muslim. She gave her heart to the Lord and she’s saved today.

SID: Now when you speak all sorts of supernatural things occur, especially when he teaches on the anointing. And we were talking about the affect of this golden rain in the Himalayas. What did it look like?

STEVEN: Sid, you could literally look up, lift your face up and look up, and you could literally feel liquid drops of rain falling on your face. It felt like rain in the natural, but it was golden, and it would just splash all over your face and give you the most uncontrollable laughter. You would just laugh and laugh. It doesn’t matter how difficult life was or what kind of discouraging experiences you may have had. When that golden glory hit you and that rain just went all over you, you just would laugh uncontrollably. I was laughing uncontrollably. I was just so full of the joy of God that it just makes it all worth it.

SID: Steven, I feel the rain. I feel the presence. Would you pray for those that are watching right now?

STEVEN: You know, some of you are watching me. You’re discouraged. You’re discouraged about your finances. You’re discouraged about your body. You’re discouraged at your children not serving the Lord. Just let God refresh you right now. Come on and just look up to the Lord. Raise your hands. Father, I pray that you rain, refresh and bless your people right now because God says it’s gonna be all right. God wants to wipe away your tears right now and it’s time for you to smile. You’ve come through your season of the storm. Now the clouds are parting. Now the sun is shining, and now God is wanting to bless you because you’ve honored Him through this whole thing. You’ve praised Him and now it’s time for your reward. So lift your eyes up and look into the Lord Jesus Christ. For your faith shall not become site, and you will see the blessings of God overtake your life. Glory to Jesus. Just receive his golden rain now.

Steve: Sid, I’ve had this dream over 100 times of a gigantic tidal wave. When I began to have this dream about 20 years back I didn’t understand it. It would almost terrified me. But a gigantic wave breaking over America, breaking over the nations of the earth. And what I’ve come to understand that this is, is a great End Time outpouring of God’s spirit that’s going to break over the church and God’s going to beautify His church, and we’re going to see the glory poured out upon His people like we’ve never seen before. The greatest miracles we’ve ever seen are yet to come. We’re going to taste them. We’re going to experience it. We’re going to walk in it and live in God’s glory.

SID: Did you get that? A tidal wave is coming. You don’t want to be on the sidelines when this happens. You want to be a participant. There is no close second to the excitement of having intimacy with God knowing that God loves you, knowing that you weren’t an accident, knowing there is a destiny for your life, knowing that if God is for you who could be against you. The only way you can know this is not through religion, not through tradition, but by knowing God for yourself. The only way to know God is to know that God came in a human form, Jesus, who lived among us as a man guiding your place, and by his blood your sins will wash away. It’s as if today is the first day of the rest of your life. What are you going to do about it? Do you want this new beginning? Do you love the way it is? Are you saying there must be something more? There is. In your own words, I mean, I got a simple prayer, “Jesus, help.” Transformed my life, my marriage, my mind, my health, everything. It’s time for you to have that transformation. The rain is falling right now, the golden rain. With your own mouth, out loud, make Jesus your Messiah and Lord. Do it now.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here with Steven Brooks. Steven is living in a cardboard box. His car isn’t working. He’s got no money. He gave his last few dollars away in an offering. It’s cold as 18 degrees. You’re living off of food in trash cans. It can’t get much worse and then it does. It rains and he’s got a cardboard box he’s living in. You must have been cold.

STEVEN: I did. And also I had a budget cardboard box. It was the one that didn’t have a roof on top. It just had four walls and a bottom. So I got rained on. I was freezing. But, you know, I gave that $4 offering, Sid. And before I knew it, a whole week had gone by and it rolled back around to that mid-week service, and the Holy Spirit prompted me again to get ready and go to that meeting.

SID: But your car isn’t working.

STEVEN: I explained that to the Lord. He said, “You get ready. I’ll take care of the car.” And I said okay. And so again, the car would not start. I tried to start it during the week and it would not start.

SID: That same thing happened to you the first time you went it didn’t start, but it started. So you went the first time.

STEVEN: That is correct. So right before that meeting I tried to start the car up and it started up. And so I drove to the meeting as fast as I could, definitely didn’t want to stop. And so I got to the meeting, went inside, sat down. But Sid, I had been going through this for quite some time now. I felt like a rubber band mentally had been stretched and I felt like I was about to snap. I felt like I had fallen off the side of the world and nobody had known about me. And so when I went to that meeting–

SID: And nobody cared.

STEVEN: That’s what I felt like and the enemy was trying to really enforce that. So there was despair. There was a hopelessness. So I sat down that night and that minister came out that evening and he just put his hand on my shoulder and I felt a heat go all through my body. I grabbed him and I said, “I need to talk to you.” He said, “Come to the back room.” We went to a back room and just began to weep and cry. I told him everything I had been going through. He said, “Steven, if you go out here and tell the people what you just shared with me,” he said, “I believe God will do a miracle for you.” And I said, “Okay, I’ll do it. Will you stand with me?” He said, “Yes.” And so we walked back out to that room and he told everybody, “Steven has something he would like to say.” And I just looked at the people and, Sid, I told them I had been living out of a cardboard box. I had been eating out of trash cans. I just broke with great weeping and balling, and crying. And a young woman in the group that night, she just popped up. She said, “Why don’t we receive an offering for Steven.” Everybody said yes and they all just joined in and they put me in the middle and began to toss money at me and financial gifts. And after it was all over, me and that minister, we gathered it up, went in the back room and began to count it. We poured all the money out on the bed. We started counting $20, $60, $80, $200. He stopped and said, “This is a pretty good offering for a small group.” But we kept on counting. $300, 320, 360, 400. We stopped counting at $418. And he got very serious, Sid. He looked me. He said, “I want to ask you a question and you tell me the truth.” I said okay. He said, “Did you give four $1 bills in the offering last week?” I said, “I did, but I didn’t think anybody saw.” He said, “Well my wife saw you do that.” He said, “Do you know what this is?” I said, “No.” He said, “This is the one hundredfold return. And Sid it was. That night I had literally 100 times given back–

SID: Steven, it was better than a hundredfold return because someone gave you a room to sleep in. Someone gave him a bed. Someone gave him a job. And now as I said at the beginning of the telecast, he is married, has a daughter. The family travels the world telling people about the goodness of God. But I have to believe it was in those times of nothing to do but pray and read the Bible that it made you who you are today. Something amazing is happening with him. When he speaks often times there are supernatural fragrances. Not just one person smells it. Many people smell it and one of the more familiar smells is antiseptic.

STEVEN: Yes.

SID: Explain that.

STEVEN: Sid, many times when I minister in the meetings there are people with infections or diseases, infections of the natural that even natural antibiotics can’t knock out. And so often when I begin to minister the fragrance of the Lord will come into the meeting and there’s a fragrance that’s known in the Bible as Anika. Anika was one of the key ingredients that was used in the holy incense that we read about in Exodus, Chapter 30. And many times this fragrance of Anika will begin to manifest in the meetings. And in the natural Anika is a very powerful antiseptic. It’s very expensive, very hard to find. But that same fragrance, which is an attribute of the Lord Jesus, begins to manifest in the meetings and people with some of the most horrendous infections and skin diseases–

SID: Give me one specific one, and I know it happens often. But give me one specific one.

STEVEN: We haven’t had it happen in America often, but just recently when I was in India, a lady with a tremendous sinus infection with uncontrollable drainage, severe pain, she was completely healed in the meeting when that beautiful fragrance of the Lord began to go across the room. Hundreds of people smelled it. And her sinuses in her nose was instantly, absolutely, totally healed. She was overwhelmed with joy. The pain was all gone. All the drainage was gone. We see this often in meetings.

SID: The thing that’s even more overwhelming to me is that it not only happens in the meetings, but you were, I believe, in Israel and they were televising it, and someone in, I believe it was China.

STEVEN: Yes.

SID: Tell me about that.

STEVEN: Well we were doing a conference on the top of the Mount of Olives. And Sid, as I was ministering the beautiful fragrance of the Lord came in so strong you literally would have thought somebody took gallons of perfume, broke bottles and just threw it all over the room. Hundreds of people smelled it. It was waves of God’s glory going back and forth through the meeting. God began to heal people. Also, people that were watching by live streaming and by satellite broadcast began to shoot in emails, and they were saying they were also smelling the fragrance there in their rooms. And this was people in China, people in Indonesia, people from all over the world that were smelling it there in their room and also experiencing God’s healing power.

SID: We’ll be back right after this word. And I want to hear about the golden rain that came down in the Himalayas. Be back right after this word.

SID: Hello. Sid Roth here. Welcome to my world where it’s naturally supernatural. It’s hard for me to believe. I look at my guest, Steven Brooks, I’ve met your wife, I’ve met your daughter. You have a worldwide ministry, signs and wonders, you prophecy, the prophecies come to pass. You’ve prophesied over me and it’s come to pass. So I know you hear from God. But it’s hard to believe, Steven, that 20 years ago, it’s hard for me to believe when I look at Steven now, 20 years ago he was single, he lost his job, and you couldn’t go to your parents. Why?

STEVEN: Well Sid, it was a tough situation all around. I had just recently received the baptism in the Holy Spirit at that time of my life. I began to speak in tongues. I was introduced to a church that believed in these types of things. I was totally unaware of it before. So it was all brand new to me. And I went back and I told the old denomination that I came out of that miracles are still happening. God still is doing miracles today. These things are real. And when I joined the church they gave me the right hand of fellowship, but when I told them that they gave me the left foot of fellowship. I was on the way out. My family didn’t understand me. They had been raised in this certain denomination all their life that did not believe in miracles. And so when these things happened to me a lot of my family and close friends did not understand what I was going through. So when I was in a time of great need they did not want to help me. They thought it was some type of judgment upon my life.

SID: And so you got two months behind in rent and he does the honorable thing. He says, “I’m not gonna get into debt any more.” He doesn’t have a job. He looks for a job. You can’t get a job and so he gets in his car, he’s driving out of town and he sees a cardboard box. Why would you grab that cardboard box? What did it look, by the way?

STEVEN: Well it was a large cardboard box, Sid, not your normal cardboard box. It looked like somebody had taken a refrigerator out of it, unpacked it and just threw the box aside. And something told me that I was going to need that. So I stopped my car, popped the trunk and folded that big box up and shoved it in the back of the trunk, because I didn’t know where I was gonna live at, and I drove about 12 miles out of the town and found a place off to the side of the road that I just pulled off to the side, and literally took that box out of the trunk of my car, set it up, and I thought I’ll only be here a few days. It probably won’t be too long. And I begin to live out of that box.

SID: Did you ever in your wildest imagination think that you would live in a cardboard box?

STEVEN: No. The whole time this was going on I kept thinking, why is this happening to me? I was crying for help. I actually went by a church that I was belonging to at that time and I asked them for help and I explained my situation, and they basically replied and said, “You’re going through some type of Job experience. You need to just go ahead and go through it.” And I didn’t understand really it was the enemy trying to destroy my life. And so every time I tried to get help it seemed like it just reinforced the difficult situation I was already in.

SID: Okay. And your car stopped working, so you couldn’t go in your car at night and warm up with the heater. You didn’t have money for gas. How cold did it get?

STEVEN: It got real cold. You know, Sid, when I parked that car I thought I’ll be leaving in a few days. I’ll get out of this mess, but the start stopped working. And before I knew it, it rolled into the winter times and the temperatures began to drop. And one night it got down to 18 degrees, which is considerably below freezing, and that was one of the toughest nights I had.

SID: Now I’m reminded of the time that you said, “Lord, it can’t get any worse.” And then what happened?

STEVEN: Well I was laying in that cardboard box and I was hungry. I had not eaten in four days and things were just difficult. There was stress and pressure. But I said, “Lord,” one night while I was laying in the cardboard box trying to keep from freezing, I said, “Lord, it just cannot get any worse than this.” And when I said that, Sid, I literally felt something wet begin to fall on my face and it started to sprinkle. It started raining. And I said, “Lord, it did get worse.” And so I hit the rock bottom that night.

SID: Well there was something that happened, though. He had a post office box and he got an unexpected check for $400. Had you been eating much?

STEVEN: No, hardly eating anything.

SID: Where did you get food?

STEVEN: Well it was depending on what was available in the trashcans. I found out that some of the local pizza companies, if they didn’t sell all their pizzas at night, they would just throw them away. So if there was something in the dumpsters I ate. If there was not then it was another night of prayer and fasting.

SID: So what did you do with that $400 that came down unexpectedly?

STEVEN: Well it was a shock. It did come unexpectedly. But I remember that I had that friend that I had never paid the back rent on. So I went back and I said, “Listen, I know your dad is the landlord. I want to give you that money so you can take it to him.” And I gave him the money.

SID: Why did you do that? I mean, it’s the right thing to do. But here it’s 18 degrees, it’s raining on you. The cardboard is soggy. Your car isn’t working. You’re eating out of trash cans. $400, Steven. How could you do that?

STEVEN: Well I really wanted to go to the grocery store, but I knew enough having been brought up in a Christian home that there are certain things you need to do in life that were the right things to do. So I took that check and I cashed it at one of these check cashing places, and I took the money over to my friend. He took it to his father, and his father was absolutely shocked that somebody would do that. I just wanted to honor the Lord.

SID: You did have a few dollars cash that you kept. How much?

STEVEN: I kept four $1 bills that I had never spent.

SID: Okay. Get this. He remembers a Bible study that he went to a couple of times. So he goes to that Bible study and they take up an offering. This is a guy that only eats out of trash cans and does a lot of prayer and fasting because he doesn’t have any food, and he puts the $4 in the offering. How could you do that, Steven?

STEVEN: Well there was a guest minister that night. He said, “I’m going to travel down to South America. I want to take medical supplies. I want to receive an offering.” So they begin to pass the offering basket around the room. And I’m sitting there in that room, Sid, and literally a conversation began to go on each side of my shoulder. It felt like an angel was sitting here and an evil spirit was sitting over here. And I heard God just so strongly talked to me and said, “Give your last $4.” And I thought, “Lord, I’m gonna starve.” And I heard a voice on this side say, “If you give that you will starve.” And I thought just for a moment, and the whole time the basket is getting closer to me. And I thought, you know, I’m already starving. I might as well just give it and obey the Lord. And right when I decided to do it, I pulled the money out when the basket showed up. I just threw those four ones into the offering plate, and it went around and vanished, and the meeting was over.

SID: And so you went back to your box and your no food, horrible weather.

STEVEN: Yes.

SID: You think it’s gonna get any worse? Wait ‘til you wait what happens next week. Be right back after this word.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth, your investigative reporter here with Tom and Ginny Hauser. What happens when corporate America decides to through in the towel and go into ministry? Now Ginny, if someone had told you that you would be going to Brazil casting demons out of people, being a nice corporate wife, living the good life, husband making a quarter of a million dollars a year, never would you, would you?

GINNY: Oh my goodness no. No, I’m just a typical person.

SID: Tom, did you believe that there were really demons? The truth.

TOM: Honestly no. I knew that men were capable of evil, because you can see that, very rational. Someone had told me that the Lord was going to pull my shirttail out, mess up my hair, and mismatch my socks, and I got that word and said – But he’s done all of that and some. I used to think that the demons, the devil, the horns, all that was Hollywood stuff to sell movies…

SID: Okay. I’m going to take you two to Brazil the first time you had an encounter with demons. Tell me about it.

TOM: That was really amazing. We were with a ministry, Global Awakening, Randy Clark, and there was only thirteen, fourteen, of us on that trip, eleven of them are from out church and I’m supposed to be the pastor who knows everything.

SID: Of course.

TOM: Protect them, and we’re in a ministry meeting, the church is filled, we’re in a very poor section of Brazil, and there was a word given for those who were terminally ill. And Randy said I’m going to preach, the team needs to take the terminally ill to the back and pray for them. So we go back, and I’m telling you Sid, it was a sight; it was just a sad sight. There were many dying of aids, there were those in wheelchairs, it was a sad sight. My wife started – I was praying for a woman with aids, and my wife started to pray for a woman, her name was – Priscilla.

GINNY: It was Priscilla. I had interviewed her as we’re told to do and find out the details, and of course you are working through an interrupter.

SID: Right.

GINNY: So it takes a little time. But I was finding that I was getting nowhere as far as praying for her, and it wasn’t happening, and the more questions I asked through the interrupter I found out that she had been involved in, had a family history of curses put on her, witchcraft, and this is prevalent in Brazil, it’s you know. So I said stay right here with the interrupter, I’ll go get my husband, he’s good at that stuff. So I went and got TOM, he had finished praying for the other woman.

SID: He’s the expert in demons; he doesn’t even believe they exist.

GINNY: Yes, he’s the expert. Well anyway, we together ministered to this woman named Priscilla, and she was, I’ll let Tom share, it was just really precious how – she had a deformed leg from a curse put on her, believe it.

SID: How deformed was it?

GINNY: She could not walk.

SID: That’s deformed.

GINNY: She could not walk without a huge limp, and you could see it was curved.

TOM: The foot was ninety degrees out, at one year old, her father had made fun of a neighbor child who was crippled and in Brazil there is a group called the Mucumba witchcraft people, and he had a curse put on his family from what happened. At one year’s old this Priscilla’s foot turned out, she had nine surgeries. She came crippled, her back out of alignment, and when she started to tell us about this I said, okay. Well, I read the book, and the Bible talks about demonization. At that point my wife and I we went through our first deliverance with this woman, taking authority, not knowing well, we’d read a lot of key books at that time.

SID: Now had you read this book at that time.

TOM: Yes, yes. Derek Prince.

SID: I knew him personally and he said that when he was writing this book that he and his wife had had the toughest time. This is so valuable, it tells it all. But go ahead.

TOM: So it was a pretty graphic deliverance for us. I won’t give you any details of it but you can imagine some of the Hollywood stuff, and I’m thinking wow. Every time I used the name of Jesus the demonic realm would respond, and they would have to listen and behave and go and leave. So at that point after about two hours of this graphic deliverance Priscilla turned to us through the translator and said, I believe I can walk. And with my wife on one side of her elbow, and me on the other, as she walked across the room, her ninety degree foot turned straight.

SID: Really

GINNY: Straightened out.

TOM: Her back came into alignment…

SID: could you actually see this?

GINNY: You could see it. It wasn’t complete at that time, but she definitely started walking with more strength, less of a limp, and she was filled with joy.

TOM: I wondered why God – and here the engineer kicks in – why is there only five percent of this not complete God? The next night she shows up, and I’m like excited I got – I just saw this thing, you know the rational mind, so at that point I had her come and we prayed that the Holy spirit would finish the work. And Sid she, during the midst of worship, it was as if she had grabbed an electrical line, started shaking, she hit the ground, I pushed through the crowd, and her husband looked at me, he was very happy, because he had a crippled wife the night before…

SID: Right.

TOM: He doesn’t – they have a one-year-old child and they are worried

GINNY: That she’s going to be cursed as well.

TOM: And in the midst of that, I said to him, and I felt the spirit in me, and I didn’t know how to Portuguese, but I said this. Be healed in the name of Jesus. And right before my eyes her leg went completely straight. And he looked at me like, did you see that? That night the husband, Priscilla, and their one-year-old, finish the story honey, walked up to us. She gave us that…

GINNY: Oh she gave us a letter, which I thought you would bring. But anyway she signed it I love you, thank you so much, Priscilla. And he has it in one of his Bibles. We should have brought it, but it was such a precious testimony of the love of Jesus.

SID: The two of you have ministered to a lot of people in deliverance, but you mention something called curses. What could some of the symptoms be, if people are viewing us right now have curses, what would some of the symptoms be?

TOM: Torment, such that at night you are unbelievably tormented and lack of peace. Strongholds, where you are doing things you know you do not want to do but there just seems to be…

SID: Compulsion.

TOM: Compulsion that I cannot stop. It can be drugs, it can be alcohol, it can be pornography. There is a place where you opened that door that it’s almost a place where you invite in a presence. No one wakes up and says I’m going to be a drug addict or an alcoholic, or I’m going to be someone who overeats, or I’m going to be in some bondage to pornography. But we have done ministry now in all of those cases and that stronghold gets a hold and invites that darkness in.

SID: Tom could you pray for people and break the curses because I understand curses can go back four generations, break up to four generations of curses right now over people.

TOM: I believe there is someone here tonight, you’ve tuned in, and I believe this is a divine appointment. It’s a point where you’ve come. I want to pray now this bondage that you’re in. In the name of Jesus we come and we take authority over all the curses, generational curses that have been placed upon you, that which has visited not by your choice. And then those who are stuck in bondages who have opened the door to sin, and you are now in a place where you cannot seem to get free, in the name of Jesus Christ, we break that authority off your life, we ask that you would come, and you’d run to the foot of Christ and you’d throw yourself at his feet and he will set you free. In Jesus name.

GINNY: It’s done in Jesus name.

SID: Now you sound like you’re sure of that.

GINNY: I’m sure of it because I’ve seen it, and God’s word will not return and not do its work.

SID: Tom, you prayed for one more deliverance, tell me about it?

TOM: Probably the one that was very dramatic, we had a doctor degreed, she’s in my church, she’s been in my church, doctor degreed UNCW professor, I’m going to call her name Sally, 20 years as a Christian, had gone to psychologists, many, many psychologists. She’d spent thousands of dollars to psychologists trying to get trying to get free of torment and anger towards her husband who was a non-believer. She came to me and she said there’s something really wrong, when I start to pray, I begin to curse my God. And she said…

SID: Hum. I’d say something’s wrong.

TOM: I know this is not good. So she set up and she came in, one of my associates was with me, my secretary from church. And we began to pray, she went through a list of prayer that we do, and in the midst of this, dramatically, again this is the left brainer, I used to think, man this is dramatic, I’m just telling you as it happened. In the midst of praying she renounced witchcraft, she’d been involved in the occult, she had been to mediums, to psychics, her mother was a shaman, a psychic, and she realized that she’d ask to be forgiven of that, but never renounced the generational curse of that. When she spoke the words I renounce the generational curse of witchcraft, she got up in a violent state, and in a male voice, this is a young, short woman, spoke in a male voice and said, you can’t have her, she’s mine and I’m high level. Something rose up in me. I hate the enemy, I just do. The enemy of your soul that is out to destroy people, and I said I know someone higher level than you and his name is Jesus Christ. You do not have authorization to her, and it says, the spirit started to cry, and it said well where will I go? And I said go to the place of the dryness that Jesus created, and it said all right. And instantly she came, and the personality of the woman came forward and she said, it’s gone, I sense it’s gone. Now that was two and a half years ago, she has come before our church giving testimony. She even brought a large sum of money to bless the church because she said; I have spent thousands and thousands of dollars with secular counselors. You cannot counsel a demon. Jesus made it clear in the Bible, he didn’t counsel them; he cast them out.

SID: Well you know Derek Prince personally said to me, God does not set you free of your friends; he sets you free of your enemies. And these demons are enemies. But I want you to capture this vision, the devil is say, the size of a human, God is the size of the Washington Monument. I mean give me a break, when you say the name of Jesus all the forces of God come against those demons. The demons are actually more afraid of you than you are of them. Perfect love cast out all fear, and love has a name. His name is Jesus and boy does he love you. You just reach out to him.

SID: Hello, Sid Roth, your investigative reporter here with Tom and Ginny Hauser. Now Tom is making a quarter of a million dollars a year as a nuclear engineer, his wife gets radically saved and experience with Jesus, then they see their daughter healed, and his engineering mind goes tilt, and he also becomes radical for Jesus, even to the point of speaking a language his brain had never been taught, the Bible called it unknown tongues, or unknown languages, and Tom, you were growing dissatisfied being a nuclear engineer but then you get this radical idea of going into ministry. Tell me about that?

TOM: I had gotten transferred from the nuclear site in North Carolina, and ended up in Georgia, and we were in a Vineyard church in Georgia. And at that point I’m really dissatisfied, I’m really getting to the top of my game, I’d been promised a very large promotion, and at that point I said this isn’t it, this is not – you’ve answered my prayers, but this is not it. So I tell my wife I believe the Lord’s calling me into full time ministry…

SID: And Ginny, what did you think about that?

GINNY: Are you nuts?

SID: What do you mean; are you nuts? First you want him to become a believer in Jesus and now he’s going a little too far. You liked the quarter of a million?

GINNY: But I was, you know, the hair done, the nails and all that stuff. And we loved Jesus the whole time. I mean in the corporate world…

SID: So why won’t you let him become…

GINNY: Because I had this idea in my mind, oh Lord I would never want to be a pastor’s wife.

TOM: You’ll send us to Africa or something.

GINNY: Yeah. I just thought you know they were some weird breed.

SID: So how did you change your mind?

GINNY: Well I went to bed asking the Lord and praying and saying oh my Lord could this be you? Where are you giving my husband this idea? And all night he played this song, like this spoke to me all night, and said, won’t you trust me? Won’t you trust me? So sweet, the Holy Spirit spoke to me. And I got up, woke up in the morning and the Lord reminded me of a sort of impression in 1989. We had just moved into a brand new house, and we had the whirlpool tub and all that, and I felt like there was this spirit saying, well enjoy it now, because within ten years your whole life is going to change and be different. And I said boy I must be just dreaming I’m enjoying – and the Lord brought that to my remembrance and here it was the year 1990…

TOM: It was within six months of that one.

GINNY: Eight. So it’s almost like ten years and so I said, could – is this the, is this the,

TOM: Fulfillment of…

GINNY: Fulfillment of what I felt the spirit was speaking to us and he said yes. And so I said – and he kept saying won’t you trust me, and I said yes, I will trust you Lord. And I told Tom and he goes what?

TOM: Now she’s scared me!

SID: Now you’re the one that’s scared.

GINNY: Now he’s scared again.

TOM: I had three fleeces before the Lord, I don’t know about, but I had asked three things of the Lord, I said Lord you’ve got to give my wife the same heart, because I won’t go into ministry without it. And then send me two people that don’t know anything and let them speak to me about this. So that night a woman from our church came up and said you need to come be a pastor in our church and I argued with her. We drove back to Georgia, and a man called us up, his wife called us up and said we need to come over tonight. And I said not tonight, we’re tired. And she was kind of forceful which was not like her, they came over and we were speaking and in the middle all of a sudden the man said I see a big cymbal with a General Electric sign on it with a red line through, you’re not working for General Electric anymore, you’re going to be a pastor in a large church, and I said oh.

GINNY: Well we looked at each other and said that must be…

TOM: That’s it.

GINNY: Conformation of the Lord.

SID: Yeah, but Ginny you are a nice executive’s wife, living the good, the nails and everything

GINNY: But I was still going to be the executive’s wife, see.

SID: Okay. Did you every in your wildest imagination could see yourselves…

GINNY: No, no.

SID: Casting demons out of people in foreign countries like Brazil? Ever, Ginny?

GINNY: Never in a million years, but you know its God doing it.

SID: How do you like the word that Ginny had, can you trust me? Watch what happens when two people say yes God, I can trust you. We’ll be right back and find out about the most amazing people being set free of demons. Don’t go away.