And, yet, you still posted two more passages that state choices and responsibilities to meet in our continued relationship with the Lord. You keep denying such conditions exist, but keep posting passages that prove my point.

He desires to believe in unconditional salvation, but he has not been able to unlearned the lie of gospel regenerationist preach by those who have embraced another gospel unknowingly! Much like Peter and Barnabas was carried away with people's dissimulation from the gospel of JESUS CHRIST where he alone sits as THE SALVATION OF GOD for the propitiation of our sins before the bar of God.

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4WD was right. Your reformed theology results in your failure to accept faith as a condition on our part for receiving God's gift of eternal life in Christ.

That's a strawman argument that people use when they cannot refute your position. I'm NOT of the Reformed community, many of them bring salvation from sin and condemnation THROUGH THE BACK DOOR, and believe in gospel regeneration~I KNOW, I debate them. They may believe in an unconditional election but quickly deny the same by saying that faith is a gift AND the channel through which God brings them to justification.

I would love to debate you one on one concerning the subject of faith and its place in the gospel. ]]>
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I don't mean to brother, but there is great purpose to us becoming full overcomers as it were, and that is to win Christ. Paul says it best below.Php 3:8 Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,

Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. (How?) Rev 19:8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. (Righteousness here is more appropriately deemed to be good acts or deeds of the saints.)

And, yet, you still posted two more passages that state choices and responsibilities to meet in our continued relationship with the Lord. You keep denying such conditions exist, but keep posting passages that prove my point. ]]>
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Its not a question "if" I believe for I certainly do with all my being, for it is the true gospel concerning Jesus Christ, a gospel that exalts him alone with its truths revealing that no flesh can glory in his presence.

So what? By your own theology, what you believe can have nothing whatever to do with you being saved. Believing is something you do and can not, in your theology, have any bearing whatever on your salvation.]]>https://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/index.php?action=post;topic=98949.0Mon, 19 Mar 2018 12:06:51 GMThttps://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/index.php?topic=98949.msg1055097182#msg1055097182Re: A Sin Unto Death.https://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/index.php?topic=98949.msg1055097179#msg1055097179

You are the one who said that the receiving of eternal life is unconditional. I just responded that it is actually conditional on faith.Now you post passages from Romans that proves my point. A person shares with you what he believes about how a person receives eternal life, stating that it is by believing in (having faith in) Jesus Christ. Then you ask him how he received eternal life, implying that it is somehow other than that faith in Christ?

Eteranl life is a GIFT freely given by grace through the redemption that is in Jesus Christ, based on HIS OBEDIENCE ALONE, not ours. Larry seems to be a good man, yet like many just confused. Faith is the fruit of the INDWELLING Spirit of God. All sinners before regeneration is at enmity against God~NOT just an enemy, which is bad but are AT enmity, which is far worst...it means that all sinners are at WAR with God, until one is given life by the Spirit of God~then and then only will they humble themselves and turn from the wicked ways. ]]>https://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/index.php?action=post;topic=98949.0Mon, 19 Mar 2018 10:25:08 GMThttps://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/index.php?topic=98949.msg1055097179#msg1055097179