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View Poll Results: Which one is better? Secondary thing is which one do you like more?

i love rafrag, i like all the songs, nothingtown is pretty out there but its ok, but yeah rise and fall, i tried to play it last night on guitar and i was just playing american idiot one step higher.... i was playing it kinda wrong, but thats cause all i hear is american idiot, but the album as a whole is pretty amazing!
i love kristy, dont get the hate, but i guess it would stand out as weird if it was on ignition or smash, but i really like it

Just wanted to pop in to say "Fix You" is probably my second or third favorite song on Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace. To me, it's a masterpiece. And while "Kristy, Are You Doing Okay" is by far my least favorite, it is one of the best songs to hear live.

As for Splinter, the one-two punch of "The Noose"/"Long Way Home", then the other one of "Never Gonna Find Me"/"Lightning Rod" can't be beat. To me, this is the album that proves album track order is an art in itself. Everything is right where it should be. Also I loooove "Worst Hangover Ever".

Songs on Splinter I would take the time to listen to while browsing YouTube:
The Noose
Hit That
(Can't Get My) Head Around You
Never Gonna Find Me
Da Hui
Spare Me The Details (I actually really like this track)

Songs on RAF, RAG I would take the time to listen to while browsing YouTube:
Half Truism
Trust In You
You're Gonna Go Far, Kid
Hammerhead
A Lot Like Me
Takes Me Nowhere
Stuff Is Messed Up

So It's basically 6/12 vs 7/12 tracks that I love on both albums.
Rise and Fall, Rage and Grace takes the edge in that way.

Now we shall compare the songs I don't like as much on each album.

On Splinter, Lightning Rod, Race Against Myself, and Long Way Home all kinda sound the same to me, and don't really offer anything special. On RAF, RAG it's the same with Nothingtown, Let's Hear It For Rock Bottom, and Rise and Fall. I don't really like any of those songs more than the others and they're pretty equal for me.

For okay songs, there's Kristy, Are You Doing Okay? on RAF, RAG.

Now it's time for the songs I don't like. On Splinter there's Neocon, Worst [Song] Ever, and When You're In Prison . On RAF, RAG there's Fix You.

Nothing against Splinter: as i mentioned in the other thread, with a bit of editing it would have made an awesome EP. But the first half of RAFRAG is pretty damn close to perfect, You're Gonna Go Far, Kid has become one of my favorite songs from the band.

And the latter half is a lot better than most give it credit; sure Fix You isn't exactly the band's finest hour, though i did appreciate them trying to branch out a little bit. Stuff Is Messed Up and Nothingtown make up for any faults.

Originally Posted by Tom Gabel

Adrenaline carried one last thought to fruition.
Let this be the end.
Let this be the last song.
Let this be the end.
Let all be forgiven.

I think the good songs on Splinter are better than the good songs on RAFRAG. Splinter has some of the darkest songs the band has ever made, and Da Hui is one of Offspring's best songs of all time.

Splinter also contains masterpieces "THE NOOSE", "LONG WAY HOME"," RACE AGAINST MY SELF", "CAN'T GET MY HEAD AROUND YOU"," NEVER GONNA FIND ME",and "LIGHTING ROD".....SPARE ME THE DETAILS has got a beautiful lyrics as "LIGHTING ROD" and "RACE AGAINST MYSELF"