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- Need to improve consistency week in and week out, like it was said in the article we would ping-pong between wins, and losses and no one was sure which Saints team would show up on Sunday.

- Special teams breakdowns, and Defensive lapses late in games killed us. Have to close out games, and execute better in the 4th quarter when the game is on the line.

- Because of the Defensive miscues, and lack of a consistent running game Brees ended up passing the ball way too many times due to situations of us having to play catch up, even though he passed for over 5,000 yards there was the 17 interceptions. I think even though we are a strong passing team, if the Defense improves, and we can develop a better running game we can improve our record and we won't have to pass as much.

I think the key factor for the Saints this season is whether or not the Defense will be improved. They've made some changes, Greg Williams being brought in as Defensive coordinator, signing Greer, and Sharper, drafting Jenkins. Adding some depth at DE. Personally I think there will be some improvements... Will it be enough to make a substantial difference in the outcome of games? I'm not sure we'll have to wait and see.

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I will agree that 10-6 may not be enough to win the NFC South this year. This season hinges on one thing imo, can our defense do enough to keep us from losing games as well as our offense does to help us to win them.

2 C 5:6-8 Jakob Murphy aka themaninblack

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mickey loomis thinks we will have both chip vaughn and thomas morstead signed before training camp, doesnt think we'll have jenkins signed (and basicly I dont care, he isnt gonna start anyway in his first year)

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Love hearing the reports out of camp about the aggressiveness the Defense has shown thus far. Seems like Greg Williams has changed the attitude of the Defense, they are going hard and hitting the Offensive players every chance they get in the contact drills even in the First two days of camp, he's making them go after every single loose ball, and forcing them to swarm to the ball carrier.

Now hopefully this translates when it matters in the regular season but I'm optimistic they are developing the physical habits needed to be a more tough, and aggressive Defense that pressures Offenses into mistakes.

Here's an article about the Defense frustrating some of the Offensive players early in camp. Link

METAIRIE, La. -- The shift in persona of the New Orleans Saints -- considered more finesse and fun than anything close to intimidating in the past -- took place early during team drills Saturday. Tailback Reggie Bush took a handoff and ran off right tackle. He was then stood up by defensive end Charles Grant and taken down with the help of middle linebacker Jonathan Vilma.

The rough stuff didn't stop there, as defenders continued to swarm, pop and, more than not, physically have their way with the offense. That defenders were allowed to tackle players, especially so early in camp, is a rarity with any team. That New Orleans' defenders did so with such routine gusto is a sign that things could be different for a playoff-caliber team that has failed to get to the postseason the past two years because of its defensive shortcomings.

In the afternoon practice, it got to the point where the offense was so fed up with the defense's over exuberance that two fights broke out on one play after a defender tackled a running back when the team was not in full gear.

New defensive coordinator Greg Williams built his reputation as an aggressive play schemer and play caller but players said his biggest impact, thus far, has been changing the unit's mental approach.

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I'm not really one to get too hyped over the off-season, but I feel really optimistic about this season. If everything comes together I see no reason why this can't be a 10,11 win team. I can't find any major weaknesses in their Off-season strategy given what they had to work with.. I would've liked for them to do a little more at the OLB spot, and add more depth at DT, but you can only do so much... and the Secondary additions should provide the upgrades we've missed the past few years in that area.

The Defense is the key and from every report I've seen Greg Williams is the man who can right the ship on that side of the ball. He's bringing an aggressive nature to the Defense; and it seems like the players are really buying into his approach. I'd like to see it on the field though.. interested especially in the snaps our 1st team Defense will take against the Bengals on Friday.