I don't understand how a someone could not vote for Craig Biggio this year, then vote for him next year. I mean, they're either worthy of the HOF or they're not, the statistics and accomplishments aren't changing.

pfim wrote:I don't understand how a someone could not vote for Craig Biggio this year, then vote for him next year. I mean, they're either worthy of the HOF or they're not, the statistics and accomplishments aren't changing.

Isn't it because they love the "first ballot" distinction? Bonds and Clemens will make it next time, they just wont let them have the first ballot.

pfim wrote:I don't understand how a someone could not vote for Craig Biggio this year, then vote for him next year. I mean, they're either worthy of the HOF or they're not, the statistics and accomplishments aren't changing.

Isn't it because they love the "first ballot" distinction? Bonds and Clemens will make it next time, they just wont let them have the first ballot.

I bet Bonds and Clemens won't make it next year. Too many voters won't vote for anyone linked to steroids. I think it'll be closer to ten years before any of them get in.

Other players definitely get the "first ballot" shaft. Even a guy like Rickey Henderson didnt get in first ballot, Biggio will get in next year.

I think it's not a good thing that the writers consider themselves judges of morality as well. Clemens didn't pitch against only clean hitters, Bonds didn't hit off only clean pitchers. MLB could have taken their names off the ballot and didn't.

ulf wrote:I think it's not a good thing that the writers consider themselves judges of morality as well. Clemens didn't pitch against only clean hitters, Bonds didn't hit off only clean pitchers. MLB could have taken their names off the ballot and didn't.

Bingo. This will be more and more ridiculous each year. Vote them in, mention it on the plaque if you want, and move on.

I don't know if Biggio will get in soon. Too many people look at him as just a regular star. His longevity is getting held against him. Next year is gonna be tough with Maddux and Glavine both being first ballot.

Grunthy wrote:It is still ridiculous that Pete Rose isn't in the hall.

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