A Massachusetts politician has put forth a proposal to allow local police to enter homes without a warrant in order to inspect whether gun owners are properly storing their firearms.The idea was floated by Swampsott Selectman Barry Greenfield, who expressed frustration about the Newtown school massacre in the neighboring state of Connecticut and in other cases where people have obtained their parents guns to carry out shootings.

We need the ability to enforce the state law, Greenfield said, according to the Swampscott Patch.

The town of Swampscott reportedly has about 600 gun owners. Under Massachusetts law, it is unlawful to store or keep any firearm in any place unless such weapon is secured in a locked container or equipped with a tamper-resistant mechanical lock or other safety device, properly engaged so as to render such weapon inoperable by any person other than the owner or other lawfully authorized user.

But Selectman Glenn Kessler said there are questions about the constitutionality of the proposal and wants input from law enforcement, legal counsel and town residents. There will likely be a meeting to solicit town input, the Patch reported.

Washington state considered a similar law earlier this year, according to Boston Herald columnist Michael Graham.

Then some lawyer heard a rumor about some Second Amendment thingy and it went away, Graham wrote.

This isnt a Second Amendment issue. Its a Fourth Amendment one  unreasonable search and seizure, Graham continued. If Swampscott residents who dont own guns sit back and allow this to happen, theyll be playing their role in the famous parable of Martin Niemoller: First they came for the gun owners, but I didnt own a gun 

Fourth Amendment: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

It seems to me that an unconstitutional warrantless entry could be met with a hail of lead. Too bad, so sad.

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posted on 11/12/2013 9:40:50 AM PST
by Uncle Miltie
( "I was all for Obamacare, until I found out I was paying for it." - California Girl)

There was an article posted yesterday about provisions in Obamacare allowing for mandatory home visits/searches which was scarier than this article. I’m convinced that if a health care provider asks about guns in the home - just say NO. Any other answer, including “what business is that of yours”, will go down on your records as a “yes”. I also think that seeking any tpe of mental health treatment or even advice in the age of Obamacare is just asking for gun confiscation. Beware.

One has to ccome to the conclusion about liberals, like this. They honestly think this would be a “good” policy; meaning it would actually help people. In which case they are completely disconnected from reality, and should be ignored. Or, that they want people to get killed, because that is the logical outcome of something like this going into practice. In which case, they are psychotic and should be treated as such.

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posted on 11/12/2013 9:44:05 AM PST
by Turbo Pig
(...to close with and destroy the enemy...)

Under Massachusetts law, it is unlawful to store or keep any firearm in any place unless such weapon is secured in a locked container or equipped with a tamper-resistant mechanical lock or other safety device, properly engaged so as to render such weapon inoperable by any person other than the owner or other lawfully authorized user.

Violating my 4th Amendment rights begets the use of my 2nd Amendment rights with weapons loaded and stored ready for use by all members of my household. Massachusetts and much of this nation has lost all sense of freedom and liberty.

In the Peoples republic of Massachussetts all firearms must be registered. Antone legally in possession of a firearm is known. An interesting question here would be if the legislature amended the law to require anyone seeking to possess a firearm to allow police inspection of their homes to see if the law is being complied with. That way, registering your firearm grants explicit consent for police inspections. No 4th Amendment issue.

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posted on 11/12/2013 9:57:01 AM PST
by xkaydet65
(.You have never tasted freedom, else you would know it is purchased not with gold but with steel)

It wasn’t good enough to just attack the 2nd amendment. This way they get to attack the 2nd and 4th at the same time. Question: what happens if they are not prescribed in the appropriate manner (a gun safe that costs hundreds or thousands that’s manufactured by a large onor to the Obama campaign). What will der Fuehrer do then? Consfiscate your guns or write you a citation. I would guess consfiscate your guns because they just can’t leave those dangerous unloaded guns on the top shelf of your closet laying around. They will take your guns, fine you an exorbitant amount that if you don’t pay in a certain time period will become state property to be destroyed, melted down an recycled, or resold .

You have to always question the true intentions, motives, and actions of anyone connected to this administration because they are truly evil. They want us disarmed by any means necessary and will keep strategizing and devising methods of deception until they can find a way to convince the naieve segment of the population that big gov daddy knows best . Be ever watchful. This is just another test of the system to check for weaknesses to exploit.

These politicians probably just think they’re scoring points with metrosexuals and leftcoast women. I don’t think he realizes that for many of us, this is a game changer. If he gets his way, people who have never committed a crime, walk their dog, play with their grandkids, and go to church will become “domestic terrorists”.

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posted on 11/12/2013 10:09:16 AM PST
by demshateGod
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)

Surely he is doing NOTHING...nothing at all to his people to make him come under attack. We all know how the liberals like to create fiction on the fly for the MSM to push agendas. I doubt even one word of it is true.

The birth of our revolution, Lexington and Concord, “Let it begin here!” I wonder what happened. Government started getting too big, socialist immigrants became an influential voting bloc, cities got too crowded, and all who could (producers) moved west?

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posted on 11/12/2013 10:19:11 AM PST
by demshateGod
(The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)

Typical libtard reaction is to target the tools and not the perps. Much of the homeless problem which we have today [not to mention the crazis] can be traced directly to the libtard push for deinstitutionalization which was largely completed by the early 1970s. Crazy people which no longer had a place to go were now out on the streets. But the libtards felt so good about themselves.

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posted on 11/12/2013 10:22:11 AM PST
by Vigilanteman
(Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)

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