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[10:03] yay, in the top 2000 largest primes :-)
[10:03] good morning all
[10:04] good morning roy.
[10:04] and congratulations.
[10:04] thank you, don't congratulate me, thank my processor ;-)
[10:05] hrm, I have installed a new printer and it has some quite interesting print behaviour.
[10:05] Huh? what kind of behaviour is that?
[10:06] for some printjobs it will just throw out a blank paper for each printed one
[10:06] but not for all.
[10:07] and if the printjob is multiple pages. it will throw out the pages alternating between top heading or bottom heading
[10:07] Yes, that is kind of odd
[10:08] it needs a new color cartridge.
[10:08] $$$
[10:08] Those things are very expensive :(
[10:09] I like this printer. it is quite fast for an inkjet
[10:09] and new enough to have automatic paper detection
[10:10] Nice... I don't print anything at home, far to expensive, I just do it at work ;-)
[10:10] :)
[10:12] Did you read that slashdotted article of a mouse-scanner? :)
[10:12] That is a cheap solution
[10:13] mh no
[10:14] is it a recent article?
[10:17] http://www.kaufmann.no/roland/dvorak/
[10:22] I'll google it for you
[10:22] http://sprite.student.utwente.nl/~jeroen/projects/mouseeye/
[10:26] More fun with pc hacks:
[10:26] http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/
[10:30] Some people are so original with their pc's...
[10:43] well
[10:44] In that programming dvorak the { and } seem unlogical... I'm now wondering if I should make my own layout..
[10:44] tempest..
[10:44] * brx checks
[10:45] ah you are right
[10:45] I don't need the {} though
[10:46] lisp, ruby, haskell. c only if necessary.
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[10:48] But still, maybe you don't need it doesn't feel logical, something like: ( [ { } ] ) looks more logical
[10:48] Placed in the middle they are also out of the way
[10:50] I don't think that is the main criterium
[10:50] s/criterium/criterion
[10:50] but I got you the first time you said it
[10:51] it's probably because you don't usually have to press { } in close succession that they are together
[10:51] whereas ( ) for example you use for expressions etc
[10:51] and [ ] for array etc subscripting
[10:51] thus I think it is alright the way it is
[10:52] Thats true, but I just rather use something that feels logical ;-)
[10:52] if I take on they kbd layout with that mindset I would be extremely unhappy with the three main rows
[10:52] s/take/took
[10:52] s/they/the
[10:54] first row with "- 9 7 5 3 1 0 2 4 6 8 +" looks better to me too :-)
[10:55] Hi.
[10:55] :)
[10:55] hi datagram
[10:56] Sup
[10:56] I fail at participation in CW : /
[10:57] 11:56 < datagram> Sup => being boring and consequently bored with myself
[10:57] All forgery
[11:03] Boredom is the force that runs the world, everybody does it :)
[11:27] 11:56 < datagram> I fail at participation in CW : /
[11:27] what is that supposed to mean?
[11:45] I haven't made a warrior since the tournament lol
[12:03] make one together with roy, you might learn a few things and it should motivate you again :)
[12:03] Heh
[12:03] I can make my own now, even with custom scripts I wrote to optimize things like qscan...
[12:04] but just no time : /
[12:04] if you'd use the time it takes for your paintings to dry..
[12:26] Heh, remember, I use that time to paint other paintings that finished drying : )
[12:30] you should rethink that. so you don't mess up your paintings' feel
[12:30] I'm painting this hobo
[12:30] back
[12:30] It's fucking sweet.
[12:30] spent only 163e, not bad
[12:31] for what again?
[12:31] toy soldiers =p
[12:31] or toy monsters, to be exact
[12:31] .. mizcu banzaaaai!
[12:34] Haha
[12:36] C x.nc.k. ekrpat co a lacb cb yd. aoo ,cydrgy a irre t.;xrape
[12:42] brx is flipping like a ninja?
[12:45] learning dvorak
[12:49] Lol
[12:49] hehe
[12:49] it is not funny
[12:49] it is!
[12:50] when we make you angry you'll type all that swearing and you want to do it right so we can read it thus learning it better
[12:51] I have the layout written in emacs
[12:51] Emacs ewwwwwww!
[12:51] * datagram leaves
[12:51] if
[12:51] D>:!
[12:51] ;rg ugjt.e gl aoodrn.
[12:51] .majo prjto
[12:51] ...
[12:53] this is torture
[13:04] it should be possible to seemlessly switch back and forth between those layouts lateron
[13:05] Hehe, _should_
[13:05] Night all!
[13:05] bcidy
[13:05] night
[13:10] night!
[13:11] You should just spend 100 hours typing dvorak and then you can (I think) automaticly switch back to qwerty
[13:17] the plan is using dvorak till I can work with it
[13:18] i am allready playing a typing game
[13:18] *already
[13:18] annp.ae;
[13:19] alltready
[13:19] thats better!
[13:19] I agree
[13:20] though it is allready working well
[13:20] anp.ae;
[13:20] already :P
[13:20] yoo, thank you
[13:21] the game is irritating though
[13:29] i am no extraordinary typer anyway, using qwerty I reach a meager 4.693 cps
[13:50] how many wpm?
[13:55] cps - characters per second
[13:57] And how much are you getting with dvorak now?
[14:03] just finished another run
[14:03] 0.743 correct cps
[14:05] (I have no dvorak kbd yet0)
[14:05] 7. 167 brx ADP-Pro 0.743 0.867 14.29% Pencil
[14:05] 8. 142 brx ADP-Pro 0.622 1.107 43.79% TypOmatiC 9. 115 xpq ADP-Pro 0.587 1.108 47.06% TypOmatiC
[14:06] the % shows typo percent
[14:13] it supports network play
[14:17] heh odd...
[14:18] the multiplayer?
[14:22] lets see how long this is going to take
[14:47] aarghrghrghrghrg2;LIRH EDRG !
[14:47] (NOT writing dvorak, just pure anger)
[14:49] what happened?
[14:49] MSG:
[14:49] aha
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[15:13] * Roy is back
[15:14] The problem: two guys at work made some changes in our program yesterday, both spend the whole day changing code, and finnaly they overwritten (not a new version) the original
[15:14] And this morning I found out it isn't working at all..
[15:15] So > spend the whole day reconstructing everything while they where working on some paper and didn't know what they did and don't want to help...
[15:15] The problem is I'm going to get a grade for this work, they are leaving this friday :-@
[15:18] :)
[15:18] that sucks
[15:18] http://gigliwood.com/abcd/abcd.html
[15:18] I know, I was just about to lose it
[15:20] Heh you have a problem, the B and X are the last letters, it'll take a while before you can spell your name ;-)
[15:20] they are leaving?
[15:20] brx
[15:20] leaving > they are also on intern and they finish this week
[15:24] why did they change the programL
[15:24] ?
[15:27] Well, because its not finished yet (making a mobile-game)
[15:29] And they thought is would be a good idea to rewrite some classes a bit.. but they forgot some stuff and because of that I had to turn everything back... thats not my biggest issue, but they didn't want anything to do with it afterwards, thats what annoyes me
[15:29] If I make a mistake I can always undo it... but I'm not going to let somebody who had nothing to do with it waste a days work
[15:30] but hey, its working now :) even improved something else... and I found a big prime last night, I'm happy again now
[15:32] good, the happy roy is preferable
[15:33] happy brx too?
[15:34] is that multiplayer typing game avialable for windows? then I might try it at home? :)
[15:34] Then I'll try out qwerty/dvorak/programmers dvorak/my logical kb
[15:35] not sure
[15:35] it is called typespeed
[15:36] that webpage is boring me to death
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[15:38] Tina is on hiatus instead
[15:38] The statue is sent to Santa Anita
[15:41] hrm, this website with typespeed online showed my speed is 225 in dutch and 180 with english text :(
[15:41] 220 cpm
[15:42] 3,75 cps..
[15:43] gotto go, get some revenge on the fussballtable :)
[15:43] rta;
[15:43] MSG:
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[15:43] &m. ,ak.o
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[15:46] Hi
[15:48] hello metcalf, kauka.
[15:57] Hmmm... I'm just about to bid on a sword on ebay.
[15:57] I fancy taking up dueling
[15:59] as in fencing?
[15:59] No, that's the wimpy version
[16:01] do you have a link?
[16:02] No, because I've decided against that one
[16:04] not to the sword, but rather to a page about duelling
[16:04] me google-
[16:08] No, I just thought I'd get a sword and give it a go
[16:09] I assume it is a sport
[16:11] I've just watched highlander
[16:12] :)
[16:16] so you are buying a katana, I take it
[16:16] No, I don't like those
[16:17] I can't find one I like today :-(
[16:17] I think I'll bid on some fencing foils however ;-)
[16:19] greets met
[16:20] hrm... violent movies have been getting to met..
[16:20] Hi Bvowk
[16:20] interesting.
[16:20] :-)
[16:20] I like Highlander. I also like Edward Scissor Hands
[16:21] I've just watch Equilibrium. I'm into Dystopian novels, I'm just looking for some new ones now
[16:21] equilibrium was cool..
[16:22] * bvowk is a big fan of christian bale..
[16:22] well. katanas are expensive anyway.
[16:22] anyone who can lose like 1/2 his body weight for a movie and then play batman a few months later is pretty impressive.
[16:22] Here is something everyone must have. Phil, if you haven't got one, here's your chance http://tinyurl.com/ay6rv
[16:24] tinyurl is a weapon!
[16:25] :-(
[16:25] bathtub...
[16:25] But I didn't send you anywhere bad did I? :-P
[16:25] no..
[16:25] Bathtub?
[16:25] well.. you did send me to ebay.. which is a place that gets me into trouble with the wife..
[16:25] It shouldn't have been a link to a bathtub.
[16:26] (*another* computer?!)
[16:26] people used to send tinyurl links pointing to tubgirl pictures.
[16:26] You can get a (only useful for decorative) katana under 100 eurobucks.
[16:27] I have one of those badges already. I had some programs published in the magazine
[16:27] and even "real ones" cant take punishment
[16:27] Mizcu: that's quite incorrect
[16:27] Mizcu: katanas belong are among the most durable swords
[16:27] -belong
[16:28] Ninja-movie crap
[16:28] brx.. thats not true..
[16:28] Katana cant take a good blow against say, Broadsword
[16:28] Mizcu: it is true. the blade is quite flexible.
[16:28] the only swords in japan that lasted a single battle were the cerimonal ones..
[16:28] there was a reason blacksmiths were so prized in japan, because they needed to reforge all the blades used in the battle
[16:29] bvowk: katanas were able to cut through body armour.
[16:29] especially given the intense hardness of the cutting edge..
[16:29] yes, because most of the metal in japan was in the weapons not the armour.
[16:29] well, the edge chips, true enough. the blade doesn't break though because of the flexible metal used for the rear side
[16:30] brx: are you hitting things with one, or hitting it with something else?
[16:30] it easily cuts through bones while being nicely balanced and light enough to handle easily.
[16:31] Metcalf: me? neither.
[16:31] not even zweihander goes through bone easily
[16:31] nothing goes through bone easily..
[16:31] Mizcu: have you ever seen a bamboo cut test
[16:32] brx watches too much tv..
[16:32] bamboo is reinous collection of fibre, not a solid block of calcium.
[16:32] and the katana is a slashing weapon.
[16:32] bvowk: the strain put on the sword is similar though.
[16:32] Aha, I've found an interesting page on Wikipedia (for me at least) - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dystopian_literature
[16:33] well bullets may get through bones easily, but thats another topic ...
[16:33] bvowk: greek shortswords have been proven to cut through a pig's body with about two slashes given enough momentum and even in untrained hands
[16:33] (btw: hello everyone!)
[16:34] brx: yes, assuming you pass between the bones of the spine and not hit the spine.. if you hit the spine.. its two chops.
[16:34] even axes have a hard time with bone
[16:35] especially fresh bone, the stuff bends
[16:36] It is a commonly-encountered article of faith that katanas are intrinsically superior to European swords. This belief is frequently bolstered by roleplaying games that assign superior statistics to katanas, and also by many movies. However, these claims are largely based on misunderstandings about the manufacture and role of European swords, and comparing the schools on their worst examples instead of their best.
[16:36] - wikipedia
[16:37] brx: I grew up on a farm doing butchering, and I've had a hobby of blacksmithing knives and swords since I was a kid, trust me, its not like TV. Even my katana I made out of intensly high carbon steel that was hardened to glass didn't cut through bone worth a shit.. the thing would easily chop phonebooks, bundles of rope, hardwood..
[16:38] springroll(s) and chinese noodels <3
[16:41] hey met.. did you hear that the 10M digit prime money is still up for grabs?
[16:42] I didn't know there was a potential candidate
[16:42] bvowk: was the entire blade made of that hard material?
[16:42] yeah.. they found one that was reportedly 10M digits dec 15..
[16:43] Oh, a false positive.
[16:43] The false positives are interesting. They are rarer than primes
[16:43] no, it was realy, but the final tally ended up at 9.5M of so
[16:44] Ah yes, I knew about that one. Where was it reported as 10M digits?
[16:44] brx: I've made a few, some completely out of spring steel, a couple with bearing steel, a few with a high carbon steel edges and a mild steel or wrought iron spine..
[16:44]