Let’s vote Mitt off the Island. I mean it. Really.

Margaret, with a natural disaster as big as Sandy, chances were pretty good that a Republican foot was going to end up in a mouth declaring that God was punishing liberals in blue states. Imagine my surprise when instead Governor Chris Christie decided to put partisan politics aside and work with the President to help citizens in need. I wonder if other Republicans were paying attention?

Unfortunately they were, but the lesson was clearly lost on them. Many suggested that Christie has eyes for a Presidential run in 2016 which can’t happen if Romney wins. Others offered that Christie was seeking revenge for not being selected as the Vice Presidential candidate.

Our favorite big-footed gal suggested that Christie “is hoping to use Obama to plug a dike.” Do I really have to attribute that quote to Ann Coulter or could you just tell by the fifth-grade mentality?

But in the ultimate pot meets kettle moment, Rush Limbaugh called Christie “fat and a fool” saying the New Jersey Governor “doesn’t know what he is talking about.” Oh Rush Limbaugh you fat, fool – heal thyself.

The Republicans are upset, of course, because one of their own was breaking ranks and actually suggesting that Obama isn’t the devil. And to make it worse, Obama was showing the country how a well run government can and should handle a crisis which only reminds Republicans of just how bad the last Republican President had been.

But never fear. The Republican candidate for President would not be denied his moment to shine and prove himself “presidential”. While the Christie-Obama love fest was going on, Mitt Romney took the opportunity to show what kind of President he would be:

Margaret, I bet Mitt made a spectacular Prom King. And if I was thinking about putting on a show in the barn… Oh, who the hell am I kidding? Mitt Romney is a moron. If I had my way, we’d vote him off the island. He is dishonest as the day is long, and he will say anything to become president. And while those remarks might cause some to label me a partisan during this time of bi-partisan unity, you might be surprised just how bi-partisan my statement actually is:

“Mitt Romney will lie to you to become President and he will lie to you when he becomes President… Mitt Romney will do and say anything to become President. Anything.” – Newt Gingrich

“I don’t know how to respond to Mitt Romney because his position may change tomorrow.” – John McCain

And Mike Huckabee on Mitt Romney – “If a man’s dishonest to get a job, he’ll be dishonest on the job.”

Here’s hoping that the east coast rapidly recovers from the most recent tragedy. And here’s to hoping Obama gets re-elected so that America can continue to recover from the tragedy that was the last Republican presidency. I mean it. Really.

Responses

Oh Sam, you’re so cute. It’s warms my heart every time I see some ass-hat trolling a blog because it shows several things.
A. You obviously have nothing better to do with your time than whack it to the sound of Bush’s drum.
B. You’re just crazy.
C. That even though you say what you say, Obama still won, and he’s still president and that just means that you lost.
Awwwww….poor Sam. It’s okay…maybe next time…good luck with that. Oh and get bent. Thanks!

Hey Gato – hmmm I don’t see where I used those words in my post – idiotic, uninformed…?? But if the shoe fits…..
And again – no intelligent response from you. I’ll rest my case now –
Talk to me again in four years. Lets just take the wait and see attitude – this country is doomed. And in the next four years – if unemployment hits another all time high – same with gas prices, groceries, etc…you will all still say that Obama is The Chosen One. Because we can still blame it all on Bush – LOL –

Hey, JC – That’s what I was getting at it. You were a good bit more specific. Thanks! And, yes; evidently, they can change their names, but not their protocol… I hope to hell these people at least get paid for all the annoying they try to do…

Sam – “Bashing you personally” (you poor sod) is no different than your calling an entire group of people idiotic, uninformed, and whatever else.

The reason no one wants to “address your issues” is BECAUSE WE’VE ALREADY HEARD, OVER AND OVER AGAIN, EVERY PIECE OF RIGHT WING DELUSIONAL CRAP FOR MONTHS ON END AND HAVE NO INTENTION OF “ADDRESSING” ANY OF IT ONE MORE TIME, ESPECIALLY NOT TO ANYONE WHO HAS NO INTENTION OF REALLY “DISCUSSING” ANY OF IT.

And you sound goddamned familiar, I must say… With that question after question routine.

So, from now on, pal, it’s DELETE for you. Give it up. Go try to make yourself useful somewhere. Don’t you have some yams to burn or some such thing…?

I’m so glad Obama won the election. But the most fun is yet to come. That will be when we see who Obama blames from the last term. Oh wait – I think I know! I bet it will be Bush still! Don’t you know it’s going to take more than 8 years to get out of this mess? Do people know that this ‘mess’ we are in was all made from a Democrat led House and Senate? You’re right about one thing – Bush was at fault. He was at fault for not using his veto power enough. Oh yes – then there’s the war. Bush started the war? Really? I believe the entire House and Senate once again voted and everyone agreed to go to war. Again – the majority of the House and Senate were Democrat. I truly wish Democrats would realize its more important to vote based on the economy of the country instead of gay rights and women’s rights. Really people? You really think anyone is trying to take women’s rights away? If you do believe that, then you really did OD on the Obama koolaid big time. But I have to hand it that administration. They really did get a lot of people to believe that. They needed single women’s votes. And they knew just what is would take to get them. I wish a democrat realized its really OK to think gays should get married, or a woman’s right to an abortion, and STILL be conservative. Think of the word. CONSERVATIVE. Does anyone know what that means? It means not spending more than you take in. It means not allowing people to suck off the Government when it is CLEAR they can work. I am conservative. But I don’t believe in all of the things conservatives usually stand for. The shape my country is in is more important to me than the other issues. And it should be to you too because when our country goes down the tubes what will we have? Nothing. We will be a third world country – a fraction of our former self. Something to ponder……

UAW
Your comment about taxing Universities shows how far out of touch you are with reality. I’ve been associated with several top tier universities and each one of them paid large payments to the local community “in lieu of taxes”. But they also had substantial payrolls which circulated money through the communities which also collected property and sales taxes from those who worked and lived there. Businesses were also set up to accommodate students and parents and relatives of students. A substantial number of businesses were also set up to service the universities, and the communities often used the names of the universities to bring credit and attention to the town or city. If you think they’re getting a free ride somehow, it’s time to rethink your narrow-mindedness.,

Claudette honey, just skip em and trash em, they’re not worth the powder to blow them up anyway. The guy’s so dumb he thinks Glen Beck is a credible source! And I’m canceling his vote for Romney at 7 am tomorrow! Can’t wait!

uaw – you really shouldn’t talk about dense. I’ll break it down for you, so you can understand. Churches don’t pay property taxes in my state.
and neither do the libraries or schools……..
or to paraphrase Gato….one half of a country that fears and loathes the other…..

iris …didn’t you bring up tax exempt and taxes????????……just wondering how far we should go…..
hey….should professors be allowed to drive on campus??????how about universities loosing their tax exemption if they have a political rally!!!!!!!

uaw – you really shouldn’t talk about dense. I’ll break it down for you, so you can understand. Churches don’t pay property taxes in my state. We have no sales tax. About 80% of our city’s budget comes from real and personal (for business) property taxes. So our payment for new roads or fixing old roads is garnered through property taxes. Emergency services – the funding is also raised through property taxes. Libraries, city, county services, sewer and water main maintenance, traffic lights, street signs, sidewalk strip tree maintenance/removal all of those and more are funded by property taxes. Let me know if you are still having problems with the concept, ‘k?

Robert – I agree. I have a feeling there is going to be trouble with people not being able to vote or absentee ballots getting lost/changed, wrong information, voter ID, results not adding up properly etc. Perhaps people will take a stand and demand changes to voting, campaigne finance, election fraud, churches, Election Day a National Holiday, prosecuting the guilty…the whole ballgame. I think we can all agree what is going on really sucks! It is not American. We need to make our voices heard!

hey gato…I liked the part about a country run by a government who fears and loathes at least half of its citizens,….kind of like here at M&H…just depends what side your on…..
just think…this time tommorow….OOPS….and a few hours extra the silly season will be over……

Hey Robert, I don’t really even care if M & H are not really 80 year old ladies or not. The point of the blog is to get the political message out there and I have fun reading their posts and most of the posts of the people who contribute here. But, for the record, I do believe that M & H are real. I’m just a cockeyed optimist and very naive.

WTF Irus…churches still pay for services(electricity,fuel,water)….the parishioners still pay gasoline taxes……are you actually saying that if you go to a church you should not be able to drive…..are you that dense!!!!

I have heard rumors this is fake blog….but does it really matter whether they are two women friends or a group of writers. I often wonder if it is an experiment to see how people respond to each other on an unmoderated blog. Either way it gives us a place to “talk” to others of like thinking, gain knowledge, share our stories fromr all parts of the world and find friendship. Who gives a good flying fig leaf about who writes it. I have no problem with Helen and Margaret, real or fake.

Don’t know why their having problems …here in MI.(other than absentee) we have one day to vote(tommorow) and show an ID when you get there…..works here…….sometimes the family forgets about things(or needs to know the laws)….the 94 yr old could have gotten a ride to town and voted but the ride would have been painful for her…..the rules aren’t meant to stop people from voting…their meant to stop people from voting multiple times ……

Hey Sus – Maybe exemption from income tax is ok, but why shouldn’t they be liable for property taxes in their own communities? We have dozens and dozens of churches where I live and they do not pay any property taxes – that’s insane.

The tax exempt for Churches doesn’t bother until they start lobbying for laws like not wanting gay marriages (Mormon’s efforts to defeat it in California) and not wanting women’s health services included in the HHS Mandate (Catholic Church). If they want to do that BS, then they should not be tax exempt.

Hey, Robert – Why worry about that for one nanosecond? It really is possible that some great grannies are rising up and saying, “Enough of this crap.” Bottom line… Does what they’re saying make sense to you? Does it ring true? If so, it doesn’t matter from whence it comes. Quite honestly, if it comes from a bunch of 22-year-olds, I’d be equally glad, because those kids are our future. And if they’ve decided to speak as old women, god bless ’em. They’re pretty smart!

I’m loving being here on the porch with M&H, and you. Get out there tomorrow and VOTE!

Hi Robert: I’ve never understood why churches are tax exempt. Separation of church and state doesn’t really apply when churches are part of our tax payer paid infrastructure. Emergency services are still available to them. Their parishioners drive on roads to get there. They are hooked up, usually, to city/county water/sewage systems. Why are my taxes subsidizing organizations that promote my oppression and want to take away my rights? Very strange.

Gato, I have to admit, sometimes I wonder that too, about M & H. I’ve always wondered if they might be some creative character creations by some Hollywood screenwriters having fun. Has anybody ever seen them? Have they ever appeared anywhere? Oprah, The View, FOX News?

Cynthia, what disgusts me is the DOJ seems frightened to respond to the blatant actions by the Florida governor to discourage voters. The other thing that disgust me, are these churches that are going against the IRS guidelines and talking politics in the church and during the service and going as far as saying who to vote for. Tax them, Tax all the churches as far as I’m concerned. The IRS is afraid to go after them, although GW’s IRS had no problem going after some Black churches when Bill Clinton came and spoke to the congregation. It seems the laws are administered pretty much like many of the churches preach biblical doctrine, they treat the laws and bible verses like a buffet, they go after or invoke those that support their prejudices.

Hi, Cynthia – I’m not sure what good it does to reply to UAW. He thinks M&H are a bunch of kids, somewhere, doing this, faking themselves as Grannies? I doubt it.

I just got myself together to do another post, myself, on my own blog. It’s not as elegant as I wanted, but it’s from the heart, at http://www.partyandsoul.com. Politics is such a small part of what we should be about, but – at the moment – it seems really important. Maybe tomorrow, it won’t be. But I just can’t imagine Romney and Ryan in charge of this country. Going to vote first thing tomorrow. I mean it. Really.

Perhaps I misunderstand your answer. Of course you will continue here if Obama wins, that is a given IMO. I asked will you be here if Romney wins?

There are many people in Florida and Ohio and elsewhere who would like to vote as well but are having a difficult time making that happen because of new regulations by GOP Governors designed to discourage/prevent voting. (Although Christie is making attempts to help those in NJ vote and deserves credit for doing so. And NY as well.) But it is ELECTION FRAUD at its best brought to you by the party that loves America best. Right!

OH Cynthia…the potatoes are canned and going into pantry……the grapes went to the wine press…..no cherries this year(late frost).(or apples or pears)……
Tomorrow I have to cancel my girlfriends vote………maybe I’ll be pissed and deny her the short soft thing……that will fix her…….

Teri in NY, re your questioning UAW about his disdain for “community organizer” and “college Professor”-he DOES seem to think they are dirty words! And this coming from a guy who uses terms such as “butt f@ucked” and refers to comments here that don’t agree with him as “circle jerks” on a blog written by 2 women of 80+ years-and moderated by one’s grandson! Yes, I know M & H can hold their own, but I do wonder if UAW would use that kind of potty mouth around his own mother or grandmother.

yes Cynthia…If Obama wins I’ll keep coming back here to remind you that if the right does something that the left does then their either both right or wrong…..or if the left does something the right does……can’t have it both ways….
How’s the most transparent Prez doing…….

copying this from a friend facebook……
So, I ask, how far would you go to make your mother happy? I visited mine yesterday at the nursing home and she was very disappointed as she was told that she would not be able to vote tomorrow. Now this woman has voted in every election since she was old enough. Her pastor & wife came to visit and we got talking. They made a few phone calls and then called me with information. This morning I got my sister on the project and after two & 1/2 hours on the phone, the awesome lady at Northwoods went in to tell my mom that they were taking her to fill out her absentee ballot this afternoon….the deadline is 4:00 pm. When Mindy told my mom, she cried. It’s the simple things in life that a 94 year old woman can be brought to tears! She will cast her ballot today. Love you mom! You are my hero! The staff a Northwoods is the best!

uaw – Democrats win by uniting the citizens??????????.WTF………..actually…ROTFLMFAO
Have you been paying attention to the Republicans dividing! What are you doing with those potatoes, canning or brewing?? And the Washington Times…..for a source!!

If Romney wins will you be sticking around here?? You know “kicking tires” and all that. I am really interested to see how you will defend him.

UAW, what I don’t understand is why wasn’t the right as adamant about who failed the country when the 911 attacks occurred? We never saw an ounce of contrition or introspection from the right, about the major failure in responding to repeated warnings an attack was imminent. This is why I don’t respect the right. Total hypocrisy.

PS – I like Chris Christi because he is authentic and as opposed to the human calculator, Romney. Doesn’t mean I will ever vote for him though, because Critis will lose that quality if he is elected and will carry the party line, especially if the far right remain in control of the republican party, which I see only growing stronger and deeper if Obama wins.

uaw – Perhaps he assumed he knew what happened that day. You know what happens when you assume….you make an ASS out of U and ME. Perhaps he spoke to people who knew the facts of what took place that day. But then….maybe….Obama had his homeboys hold a gun to Wolfowitz’s head and told him to change his story or else. If he had waited until the facts were learned he wouldn’t have had to change his opinion. You know – don’t rush to judgment…..well unless you are a Republican.

By: uawtradesman on October 31, 2012 at 9:19 AM
will Obama be BENGHAZI’D?????????
inquiring minds want to know……

‘In a blog post posted in American Enterprise Institute (a conservative think-tank), Paul Wolfowitz a Republican and a former deputy defense secretary wrote that US did almost everything possible to protect our people once the attacks had started. Contrast this with what Romney and his campaign have been saying about U.S response and it looks to me that they did not dig deeper and kept attacking Obama to score political points.”http://ohnomitt.blogspot.com/2012/11/paul-wolfowitz-on-benghazi-us-did.html

An inquiring mind wonders if “inquiring minds want to know” will even read this article and if he is willing to “kick” these fu*king tires??? Nay, why wait for the facts when it is way too much fun finding fault to flavor his big bowl of hate and anger every morning.

UAW…..maybe you got something there. My tax dollars were taken from me to save your pension fund and health benefits. Had it gone into bankruptcy that would of been gone my friend. And just to think, you were offered a job, you had the option to work, buy no…..you decided to mooch off of hard working tax payers like me. I don’t have a union pension, so why should you? At least the republicans agree with you. Just think if the auto industry starts to sink under a Romney presidency, no more help from the government! You just pull up those GOP bootstraps and your on your own. No money for your pension or benefits? Too bad my fellow American, you should of been born rich.

Jeez, since when did “community organizer” and “college professor” become dirty words? Nate Silver uses little things called “math” and “statistics.” Whenever the right doesn’t agree with someone, they accuse them of bias. They never let facts get in the way of their propaganda. In order to believe in right wing ideology, you have to ignore facts, math, science and education. And you need to believe every stupid conspiracy theory dreamed up by Fox News. Yeah, UAW, what happened with Fast and Furious and Benghazi? You have no effing idea. Stop trying to create scandals where none exists. If you haven’t noticed, this country needs to solve some major problems. I wish people would get their heads out of their asses and stop halting every attempt made at progress. Enough with the nonsense.

Jeez Gato…and a gardener also!!!!!!!
a lot of people here are mad at the Tea Party but if you look at the pictures(not those on stage) you see middle class,work shirt wearing, typical people……people that worked their ass off making a living(and paying their bills)………just tired of “others” saying we need to pay for their stuff…..I’ll give you the shirt off my back if you really need it but kick and gouge if you try to take it from me…….
just an opinion from me……

2. Has already helped 5.6 million seniors
and people with disabilities
better afford prescription drugs,
and 17 million children with pre-existing
conditions will no longer be denied
coverage.
R/R: Privatize SS, Medicare, cut
Medicade totally. Who cares about
children with disabilities. We only
care about the fetus

3. Women’s Health choices are personal
decisions, best made with her doctor-
without interference from employers
or politicians.
R/R: Rape is God’s will and comes with
a gift. Women are of no consequence
to us

4. Brought a responsible end to the war
in Irag & brought Osama bin Laden
to justice.
R/R: We Love war and the money our
rich friends make off if it

5. Doubled the funding for Pell Grants
and established a college tax credit
which helped more than 9 million
students and families save money for
tuition last year
R/R: Ask your daddy for a loan.
No tax credits for anyone
but the billionaires

6. Signed 18 tax cuts for Small
Businesses and supported loans
to help 150,000 small businesses
R/R: Let them fail and then our
billionaire business owners
can snap them up and send
those jobs to China

7. Rescued the auto industry from the
brink of collapse, saving more than 1
million jobs.
R/R: Let them fail! Buy majority shares
of stock in Delphi, sell when
the auto bail out makes them
profitable and make a boat load of cash,
fire the employees and send those
jobs to China. Don’t declare the income
you made from Delphi and refuse
to disclose your 2009 tax returns.
In Oct, 2012, lie about auto plants
closing in Ohio. Nov 1, 2012 be
brought up on ethics charges

8. Cut taxes by 3,600 for a middle class
family making 50,000
R/R: Cut taxes for Billionaires
Raise Taxes for Middle Class

10.Established historic fuel efficiency
standards, which will save families
$8,200 at the pump per vehicle
R/R: This has to do with Science
and air quality. We don’t
believe in Science. We want
people to pay through the
nose at the pumps

11. Signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay
Act to help women fight back against
pay discrimination in the workplace
R/R: Women are of no consequence
to us and are certainly not as
smart as men.

My prediction for the election: Obama will win. The right will go ballistic, blaming the media, the storm, voting procedures; anything but their pissant candidate. They have never been willing to accept any blame for the problems they have caused this country. For the past four years, in the middle of a economic crisis for the U.S., the GOP decided to sit on their hands and do nothing. They put their party first; along with their hatred of Obama.

I’m posting this link to a stock related new release by a popular stock market blog, Seeking Alpha. You don’t have to read the whole thing, just the first few paragraphs. I think it says something when people who cover the stock market make such comments. They ain’t bet’n on Romney.

Hi, Claudette – I think I live in this relatively small place because I like connecting with people, and it’s easy here… We have people showing up at our door each morning, with their coffee pots, while the power it out. And that’s fine with me. Maybe the same reason I post here so often (now that my internet is finally available again!) My Mom was born in Great Falls, so I think she understood the beauty of space, as do you.

It is small here, and close… And sometimes I just go out back and don’t talk to anyone for a couple of days. I also lived in NYC for about twelve years, when I was a young whipper-snapper. Couldn’t have been a better place for a young white woman to be getting the hang of things.

I think we are a communal species, whether our spaces are close, or far apart. We will always reach out to each other. You will think of NY and NJ, just as I have thought of New Orleans and Haiti, and we will do our best to lift each other from misery…

HTG, UAW… Somebody’s really been screwing you over. You’re obviously a person who puts up his own potatoes, takes care of his GF when she hurts herself, and that’s all good stuff. All admirable, for sure. In that sense, you’re my kind of guy.

But look really hard at who’s getting what from screwing you. Just a thought… I think we all need to do that. It ain’t the black guy; it ain’t the government… It’s the Big Money People. That’s my thought. They don’t give a shit about you or me, when it comes right down to it. Doesn’t matter if we’re conservative or liberal; whatever we are, we don’t matter. You and I will be eating your canned potatoes, and I’ll be putting a poultice on your GF’s hand, in front of my woodstove. and tucking her into a warm blankie. (Maybe you, too, if you’re nice.) Also, I’ve still got some stuff happening in my greenhouse… Late lettuces, salad turnips, pea shoots, and a few radishes… And I’ve just brought in the herbs, because it looks like a hard frost coming tonight, here in just post-Sandy world… Just what we need.

Gato-I had no idea you lived in CT. The heart and courage you describe is wonderful, and yet so typical of Americans that still remember how to take care of one another in times of crisis.

Having never visited the East Coast it’s hard for me to imagine so many people living in such a small area-I’m from Montana, for Pete’s sake! Yet the news stories and photos just make my heart ache. I saw one photograph of a lone swan floating up a darkened, deserted street and it seemed like an apocalypse was upon you. I surely hope you never have to experience anything like this again.

I cannot send money, but I have been sending prayers and am recommitting to the climate change activism I have been doing.

Thank you for all your wonderful comments, and those of others in a similar vein-and also, those of differing views. I have learned to keep paper towels handy if I read M&H while I drink my coffee, if you catch my drift.

There’s such an incredible empowerment that comes with expressing your truth and commitment that I see everywhere on this blog, and I feel such gratitude to have found it. And at 70 years, I am not a novice. Thank you all.

We are on the brink of a sea change, and it’s exciting to be an instigator and a witness.

Hey Claudette…you mentioned my local(local 699)….which is now Nexteer and owned by the Chinese….and building the same fine parts
as far as the union and the election…just what do you expect the union to say…..try asking the workers!!!!!!!
I’ve been asked to go back……either hourly our consulting…..f%ck’en…..

Yeah…Robert…..been there……don’t know how many union meetings I went to and the usual topic brought up was what did we have to give away to get that a$$hole back(and back again…and again….and again)…..Usually we ended up giving away some health and safety issue to get an “employee” back……..
don’t get me wrong…unions(collective barganing) is great…..the abusers should be buttf%cked……..the international included……
most of my increases in pay was cost of living increases(at least in the 70’s and 80’s)….a lot of places closed up instead of paying that…..

Hey, Mageen – Yes; the “gift of community” has worked well around here for us Sandied people. (My husband and I didn’t get whacked much at all, but plenty of our neighbors did.) People are going door to door to see if anyone needs a warm place to sleep, or a hot shower, or a place to recharge their whatevers.

Power just came back on tonight, almost seven days later. Heck; after last year’s October snowstorm, we were out for eleven. As I’ve mentioned, we have a generator, so we’re among the Action Centrai people. And danged grateful to be so. Nobody here is calling their parents for a bailout… Au contraire, we’re looking to make sure everybody else’s parents are okay, and doing what we can to help.

Robert, I seem to remember the off-shoring stuff starting with Reagan. Even have a friend who interned at the W.H. at that time and can fouch for that. Yes, once it got started it opened a floodgate and as I recall it was after the deluge began that CEO’s began getting pay and bonuses with more zeros than anyone has ever seen. And now they will never give that up. Yes, they can take all their money and live on an island where they can manufacture their own lifestyle but in doing so they totally discard the gift of community. And please don’t tell me that one plutocrat would take a bullet for another or help out a plutocrat who suddenly loses every cent. They don’t believe in “victims” and people “who won’t take responsibility for their own lives”

I’m so sorry for you people that were in harms way of Sandy and still are without power. Gato, I just had to laugh outloud though when I pictured Mitt wiping the sweat from his brow as he began the process of cleaning off that football field. I wonder if God allowed Sandy to happen so that some people would have no power and be saved from the last few days of the Repub’s propoganda. Suddenly, people who have never watched the news before are convinced that Obama went to Benghazi and committed those murders singlehandedly.

I can sort of see rich men voting for the R/R. team. Sort of. But women? Well, it is sad that so many women subscribe to the fact that their rights are worth nothing. Even if they believe that Romney’s plan to resurrect the failed Bush policies might work this time, I can’t get past the fact that women aren’t standing up for their rights and those of their daughters/granddaughters. In addition to Romney supporting the Blunt Amendment, wanting to defund Planned Parenthood, and his other extreme views against women, Ryan co-sponsored Todd Akin’s Sanctity of Human Life Act (legitimate rape law), voted SIX TIMES against gender equality in pay, and AGAINST expanding PROTECTIONS FOR BATTERED WOMEN. These guys DETEST WOMEN!

From the information I have researched on Mormons, they truly believe that women are second-class citizens. Many misogynistic men have apparently joined the church just so that women will be subservient to them. This pretty much explains Romney’s inability to take women’s issues seriously. Not sure what Ryan has against women yet, but he is definitely not for them. Since Mitt had to come up with a binder full of women to work for him as governor, wouldn’t you think that a businessman like himself would already know a qualified woman or two? Guess not.

Mageen, I don’t disagree that unions provided some great benefits, I hope I showed that. And I won’t disagree the balance between pay levels is way skewed these days too. Just saying the demands of the unions became just as extreme as the disparity we now see in pay levels. Big business said we’ve had enough and used their influence to buy off the politicians. Their access through lobbyist, made it favorable for the corporations to seek better conditions off shore. You can thank Bill Clinton and the Republican congress of the 90s for opening that door.

Not only did Bill Clinton open the door for corporations to move manufacturing off shore (remember when Ross Perot invoked that term, a big sucking sound?), Clinton also relaxed the rules for media corporations to consolidate and for the banks to do what they did during GW’s term and create products that during were made illegal after the last depression.

I hope people realize just because were voting for Obama doesn’t mean things are going to change in any major degree. As I mentioned in a previous post, he’s going to lean towards who dangles the biggest incentive. That is why I invoked what FDR told his supporters, make me.

PS – The most opposition I’ve ever received for my lack of enthusiasm about the Democratic party, has come from the people on the left. The Occupy Movement is the closest thing the Democrats have to making the Democratic party politicians do the right thing. Do you see any big names getting out and leading them and funding their movement, like we see in the Tea Party? The answer is no. Why do you think that is? Why was Obama and the democratic party hierarchy absent during the rebellion by the various unions in Wisconsin? Just don’t get upset with me because I point out what people on the left refuse to see.

Hi, Easier, and fellow porch dwellers – Yep; we’re basically okay here in CT, although plenty of our neighbors suffered major property damage to their houses and cars. Mercifully, nobody was injured, and we’ve all been looking out for each other. We have a generator, so we’ve had plenty of morning visitors showing up for their necessary pre-work caffeine fixes.

We still have no power (this is Day Six), and the internet just came back on line as of last evening. I have an iPad, but it would only work when I drove a couple of miles to sit in a nearby mall parking lot – and, even then, it was only sporadic, since so many other people were doing the same thing!

Now catching up on more than eight hundred (!!!) emails, and the election “news”… Loved the Romney/Walmart “storm relief event” in Ohio, and his pointing out how he understands what people are going through, since he and some prep school classmates “had to” clean up some rubbish off a football field once. Wonder how that would go over with our friends who had a three-foot-diameter tree go through their roof, take off the front third of their house, and smash both their cars…?

Sadly, Sandy didn’t blow away any of my neighbors’ FIVE Romney/Ryan lawn signs, all of which I see out my living room window. But, on the plus side, it didn’t budge my “Obama/Biden 2012” sign, either!

Robert, my father’s union membership saved his life and my mother’s. They had a cracker jack medical coverage unobtainable by working people anywhere else. The heart surgery both of them underwent prolonged their stay on this mortal coil so I could have more time to continue to tell them I loved them. I also recall that there seemed to be a better balance between the wages for union members and what the CEO of a company got paid. The gulf between these two levels was not that amazing It even seemed bridgeable. Not like today where the top dogs pull in so much that its as if they exist in another solar system and never the twain shall meet.

JC, Easier, and EABlair, don’t worry. Those of us in the ESA will honor your passports. Even vouch for or sponsor those who have trouble getting them.

I do have a soft spot in my heart for Texans, South Carolinians and Alabamans, having lived in those states way back when. My very bestest friend ever for over 50 years lived in Mississippi and we visited back and forth often. True Southern hospitality was alive and well in those days. Warm and gentle people. My mom was born and raised in Louisiana but horrors! Ran off and married my dad, a damnyankee from the Wild and Wooly West. Her mother NEVER forgave her for that but her siblings did.

UAW, When I was in my early 20s (mid 1970s), I worked in the aerospace industry in So CA. It was UAW shop. Made great money. Raises quarterly and every 6 months, plus cost of living adjustments. What I remember most about the union was how it allowed people with bad work habits to never have to suffer the consequences. They could be as burly as they wanted and never lose their job.

The same happens here at the ports today. If people saw how their new foreign cars were driven off the ships, they’d never buy them. I think unions served a purpose at one time, but they’ve become power and money hungry, just like the corporations they hold/held hostage in many cases. I have to believe the rise in the cost of living and how much more cars cost these days (as well as the cost of public education), is more due to the fact that people had to be given raises for not really being any more productive or broad in their skill base, but just because it was in the contract. That business model of giving raises just for time on the job became why the cost of living rose and became the standard all non union industries had to follow, to attract desirable labor.

I think unions played a big role in the direction that corporations took to get out from under their control. Wouldn’t it be nice if life was fair and neither labor nor business took advantage of each other. Right now the corporations have the upper hand. Manufacturing and good paying middle class jobs won’t come back to the USA until we can compete with the new economies in foreign lands. Those countries will have to deal with the same issues that labor and mgmt in the USA had to deal with over the last century, but they have the model the USA provided to show them how to handle the needs of both parties better I hope.

JC you tickle my funny bones. Don’t know about the IQ and education level thing but hubby is an educator and maybe he might want to still be involved in that area if we should move. Yes, we watched the game. That last touchdown that was taken away was the deal breaker. Oh well, another day another time! We shall return! 😉

There are worse places I am sure! And we have Gilberto Hinojosa as chair of the state Dems and the Castro brothers, who are fine young men in EVERY sense of the word! Juanita Jean says we are going to flip, and it can’t come a moment too soon for me! I’m sure your return would raise the state IQ and education level, and I’m with you on the BBQ! We would welcome your return – and please tell your hubby that we’uns are very sorry that the Red Raiders did not beat the ‘sips😦 !!

JC, I did live in Texas in the early 80s. Husband went Texas Tech. Moved away in 85. Came back three times since, on short visits. Yes, that mesquite flavored barbeque is to die for. None other like it in the country. We might just move back after retirement. Who knows?

My god UAW you are a sad angry little man. For someone who goes on and on about self reliance you sure are pIssed about all the stuff that was owed to you. And if I’ve got that wrong, then maybe you should rethink the way you communicate here.

Well JC, you are lucky, out of all the red states, if you have to be fenced in, Texas might be the more pallatable choice, regardless of their politics. You will still have Texas barbecue. Am I a sellout to think Texas barbecue is something to stay in a fenced Texas for?🙂

I was curious what UAW’s local was saying about the election, so I googled their on-line newsletter, uaw699.net, in Saginaw MI.

Posted 11.02.2012: Days before election, US jobs report shows another gain for workers.

Detroit-Today’s better-than-expected jobs report shows how far we’ve come climbing back from the economic devastation that gripped our country four years ago, before President Obama was in office.

U.S. payrolls grew by 171,000 jobs last month, and by almost 2 million over the past year. The private sector has now been adding jobs for 32 consecutive months.

Four years ago, we were losing hundreds of thousands of jobs a month.

UAW members are proud to be part of this turnaround, and grateful for President Obama’s leadership in saving GM and Chrysler from liquidation during the industry’s crisis. Thanks to the successful rescue of the domestic auto industry, employment in U.S. factories making motor vehicles and parts, and in the dealerships that sell them, is now more than a quarter of a million jobs higher than it was in June 2009.

“While President Obama was working to save the U.S. auto industry, Mitt Romney was opposing the rescue of one of the nation’s most important manufacturing sectors and building his fortunes off the misfortune of others by closing plants and destroying communities across the country,” said UAW President Bob King.

The UAW and a coalition of labor and good government organizations filed an ethics complaint yesterday with the U.S. Office of Government Ethics calling for an investigation into Mitt Romney’s noncompliance with the Ethics in Government Act to compel him to either disclose his investments or divest them.

The coalition believes that Romney’s undisclosed stock holdings create serious conflicts of interest. They point to the auto loans as a key example. The Nation recently reported that the Romney family personally profited by at least $15.3 million from the auto loans of 2009. Yet Romney’s June 1, 2012 Public Financial Disclosure Report to the Office of Government Ethics did not reveal this windfall because he did not disclose the underlying holdings of the private equity and limited partnership funds.

Romney profited from his family’s investment if Delphi Corp. at the expense of the Delphi workers. Other unreported investments that could create conflicts of interest include controversial holdings in Sensata and Global-Tech.

“We know that much more remains to be done. Far too many Americans are still struggling to find good jobs to support themselves and their families. We’re hopeful that Tuesday’s election will send a strong message to Congress that they need to drop their policy of obstructionism and quickly pass President Obama’s common-sense proposals to create millions of jobs,” King added.

Cladette……
when Gear(local 699) was at its biggest it had appx 10,000 hourly employees……out of that there was 212 Millwrights there(my trade)….we were the people that told the engineers what parts/supplies we needed to do a job and then did it……100 degrees and on the roof or -15 and in the snow……if it was impossibe it took 10 more minutes to do than really difficult…..
I personally believe it was a 10 year plan by GM to get rid of the pensions and the unions……does that mean that the union didn’t get “bought out” by GM….NO……the retirees gave up 37 billion in estimated health care costs……and thats costing me every month…….and where in the hell is my free Viagra……@23.90 a pill(i checked)

well Claudette….not everyone has an I-phone…….I can’t afford it….(not one of the 1%ers)
and I survided the Delphi bankruptcy(Saginaw Steering Gear)……as for the union they did nothing but tell us to retire now(may of 06)…I could have worked another 6(or more)years…….(about $600,000 before taxes)…..
are there things that I am angry about ….sure…..did I pick up some more insite about what happened….yes…..am I still pissed at the screwing the UAW gave me…..yes….am I still pissed about the stupidity of the people running GM and driving that great company into bankruptcy….yes……..
should you be pissed that Obama gave Romney $50 million…yes…..

Hi Robert, I don’t have the slightest difficulty believing that; I know some of those people myself! One of the funniest books I have ever come across is “The Yankee Chick’s Survival Guide to Texas” which kept me in stitches for days! Lotsa that sort of stuff in it and great fun!

way to go Batya…people helping themselves and not waiting for someone to hold their hand….great….this is what I talk about…..being responsible for oneself…….I just canned 14 qts of potatoes for the pantry….didn’t have any help peeling the 20 lbs of potatoes needed……
took homemade split pea soup to my mother-in-law today…..
and people in the storm area are arming themselves against looters….great…..

UAW, you’ve been uncharacteristically silent in regard to your union and their charges of profiteering against Romney. As a UAW union member and Romney supporter, perhaps you are conflicted? But then again, you probably have an explanation. Let us hear it!

good one waialeale but IMHO Detroit(and Lansing) would be in for some serious hurt if they pissed off the rest of the state…….even Terry Brown(D) owns a gun…..
Wisconson!!!!!!!…..how’d that recall thing go???????OH YA…..

Sorry UAW, but even without power, many / some people still had Internet access. We did for a long while. Our Ipad was charged up and worked for 3 days before we needed to charge it again. By then we had friends with power and there were charging stations all over the area. Other people we know had Iphones, etc. with Internet access. Those of us who had it, helped those of us who did not. That is the way the world works. We help each other. So, President Obama was not so wrong in saying to use the Internet. Whereas, Mitt Romney is just an out of touch idiot!

Here in goofy Texas, Easier, they talk about building two fences: one for the “illegals” (!) and the other to keep all the “dam’ Yankees” out! I have always hoped they’d give enough notice that I could get myself together and get the hell out – and I damned well wouldn’t let it hit my backside on the way out either!!

38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals than we lefties.

Not to mention:

Red states will get the people who think the moon landing is fake but “professional” wrestling is real, and their law enforcement agencies will have a harder time because so much of their citizens’ DNA is the same.

Auntie Jean, I live in a red state and possibly cannot imagine what such union would be like. What a depressing thought! Hope if that should come to play that our generous friends in the E.S.A. will lend us a hand and give us the opportunity to opt out. Are you in JC?🙂

I very sincerely hope you are wrong Sid! Our area still has some lingering issues from Ike but NOTHING like the devastation in New Orleans! I feel very strongly that New Orleans was allowed to languish for some reason (I have various suspicions myself) and that a timely response would have made a huge difference there. With the proactive measures the federal emergency response team put into effect for Sandy, aid was at the ready and they began mobilizing before the storm hit! Galveston did much the same during Ike and you can bet your boots that even the anti-fed red state moron Gov Rick “Goodhair” Perry had his hand out and ready to accept declarations of disaster and any other form of aid offered by anyone! He had no damned choice! The situation in New York and New Jersey is worse because the sheer numbers of persons affected are overwhelming! And that doesn’t even count the trouble in states further west that “only” had wind or snow damage: you hardly hear about them because the surge damage and coastal flooding was so catastrophic!

I am very damned sorry about your friend. My father was a victim of Rita (stroke from a blood clot) but he largely reaped the reward of his own poor decision: neither he nor my mother really wanted to leave, and my sister was worse and they would not leave her behind. Love is a funny thing. Your poor friend was the victim of other people’s poor planning, like so many others in the whole Katrina disaster.

Note: Any of you pseudo-Christians that feel inclined to weigh in on this are hereby invited to shut the hell up and take your drivelling about God somewhere else; go back and read the story of Noah and the flood and leave me the f–k alone already. If Jesus Christ showed up tomorrow you would never recognize him and just try to kill him again

“He (Romney) says it is immoral for the Federal government to give money to the states after disasters.”

Hmmmm…..wonder if he knows where that money CAME from??? Does he think the Fed pulled it out of their collective asses??? Oh wait, I get it. Because it isn’t the private sector they aren’t MAKING money off these disasters…..THAT’S what he thinks is immoral!

If Mitt Romney had his way, there would be no FEMA and Federal aid to states that have disasters. He says it is immoral for the Federal government to give money to the states after disasters. He told one woman whose home was destroyed after a hurricane, last year, to go home and call 9-1-1. The problem was, she had no home to go back to to make the call. He just doesn’t get it. I guess he thought she had a second or third home to go to and that calling 9-1-1 would fix her destroyed home. What a ninny!

JC, we lost an old friend to Katrina. He was old, bedridden sick and had to wait until a nursing home in northern Louisiana was located that took people with his type of illness. He was the last one out of the N.O. nursing home and he could hear the storm chasing the ambulance. It was too much for his heart. The moment his stretcher was wheeled into the safe nursing home, he died.

Look how long it is taking N.O. to get back on its feet, totally. It will take just that long if not more to resurrect New Jersey and all the other areas that were bombed by Sandy. No one in their right mind should eventually hear themselves say that if they were in charge it would have been completed already. That would just be an exercise in cruelty.

I don’t usually forward political e mails, but I can’t resist this one. With all the grim news going around, maybe a little levity is in order.

Please!!!!! Do get out and vote!!!!!

Dear Red States:

We’re ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and politics and we’ve decided we’re leaving: “Legitimate rape.” is almost reason enough!

We in New York intend to form our own country and we’re taking the other Blue States with us. In case you aren’t aware that includes California, Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois and the rest of the Northeast.

We believe this split will be beneficial to the nation and especially to the people of the new country of The Enlightened States of America (E.S.A).

To sum up briefly:

You get Texas, Oklahoma and all the slave states.

We get stem cell research and the best beaches.

We get Andrew Cuomo and Elizabeth Warren. You get Bobby Jindal and Todd Akin.

We get the Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand.

We get Intel and Microsoft. You get WorldCom.

We get Harvard. You get Ole’ Miss.

We get 85 percent of America’s venture capital and entrepreneurs.

You get Alabama.

We get two-thirds of the tax revenue. You get to make the red states pay their fair share.

Since our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition’s we get a bunch of happy families.

Please be aware that the E.S.A. will be pro choice and anti war and we’re going to want all our citizens back from Afghanistan at once. We wish you success in Afghanistan, and possibly Iran as well, but we’re not willing to spend our resources in these sorts of pursuits.

With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the country’s fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95% of America’s quality wines (you can serve French wines at state dinners) 90% of all cheese, 90 percent of the high tech industry, most of the US low sulfur coal, all living redwoods, sequoias and condors, all the Ivy and Seven Sister schools including Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cal Tech and MIT.

With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all obese Americans and their projected health care costs, 92% of all US mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, Rush Limbaugh, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia.

We get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you.

38% of those in the Red states believe Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, 62% believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the death penalty or gun laws, 44% say that evolution is only a theory, 53% that Saddam was involved in 9/11 and 61% of you crazy bastards believe you are people with higher morals than we lefties.

Yes, Sidney, Jersey is really on the ropes. Glad to hear your family is ok. It is just hard to see the devastation on TV. My nephew’s girlfriend lives there and has been unable to leave, since public transportation has been grounded. Her neighborhood won’t have lights for another week they were told. I lived through Katrina, further up than New Orleans but devastating to us also. I do understand what they are going through, just a little.

Here is hoping that the right won’t begrudge them the gas the Department of Defense is sending up there to help. They like to label everything as politics when all people are doing is trying to relieve human misery and to help in any way possible. I applaud the Federal government for everything it is doing to help.

Alicia scoured Seabrook, Texas (where I grew up) in 1983, and then Ike smacked it again in 2008. We could not leave during Alicia (out of town guests thought it was “exciting” !!! ) but I got my parents out for Ike, thank God. These pictures of people’s ruined lives always break my heart, and I have wept over some of them. Nothing compares to the lack of response -even now!- to Katrina and the hardships faced by the poorer people of New Orleans. I am not a big one for conspiracy theories; Occam’s razor should always be applied! But if what happened to New Orleans was the result of neglect by those who were charged with public responsibilities for partisan motivation – well, I just hope there really is a God that can bring those responsible to book, that’s all. I can’t believe Michael Brown had the colossal nerve to open his mouth and remind us of his existence at this time of crisis, and I am damned glad that Mr Obama has made the shattered Eastern Seaboard his first priority! Please donate to the Red Cross if you can, they provide the best in disaster relief, whether it is small local single family losses or cataclysmic disasters that affect millions.

Easier……I have a lot of family in jersey. They are ok but much of jersey is destroyed and it will be years before we see it come back. I was raised there, and when I see what the shore looks like, it feels like a death in the family. I’m a Floridian now, lived through hurricane Andrew and saw how painfully slow the reconstruction was.
Thank god that there is a democrat in the whitehouse who knows how to run the government agencies.

Mageen….my father was also a union man, he appreciated the union, all his friends were union men, and I can tell you UAW is no union man. I believe that I would see a fairy riding a unicorn come out of my butt before I would believe that UAW is a member of the UAW.

Gato and Terri in NY, hope you are doing ok and were not affected too much by the hurricane. I was franctic about my nephew who lives in NY City. Finally heard from him today. He had some horror stories for me. He got his lights back last night and his phone is finally working. Hoping that our brothers and sisters in the Northeast are able to put this storm behind them soon.

Colorado Blue, right on as usual. “We the people” are our brothers’ keepers. We progressives understand that concept. We might be more evolved on the human evolution scale than our teabagger brothers that may be all. It is not so hard to understand why we should be our brothers’ keepers. But some have raised selfishness into an art form. The Federal government, which represents “we, the people” takes on that mantle when necessary to make sure the greater good is served.

Sidney, Colorado Blue; my father was a union man when he worked in the auto plants in Detroit. He would take one look at UAW and eat him for lunch. Could be that is what really scrapes his hide. He’s uptight cuz someone knows the difference between calling yourself a union member and actually being one and sees right through him.

UAW…..You and your republican friends are really on my last nerve. You like Romney? Great. Vote for him.
But you really don’t like Romney do you? You just hate, hate, hate Obama? Why? Because you are a gullible, easily lead person. (fool, racist?)
There is nothing that Romney and his republican friends can do that you won’t excuse. Nothing.
And for those of us with eyes to see and ears to hear, we find that unbelievable. Absolutly unbelievable. But then you post something ridiculous and ignorant like a link to some newsbusters bullshit and we realize that we haven’t even scraped the surface of the ignorance that is sprinkled throughout this country.
Do you imagine the thrill of kicking the BLACK man out of the white house? Is that what drives you? Oh the shame, the embarrassment he would feel?
Bullshit. Obama would be fine. Just fine. He has a beautiful wife that loves him and He loves back. He has two wonderful daughters who will give him great joy as he watches them blossom into intelligent young woman. Oh, and he will be rich? RICH. The only people who will be crushed are the 99%. What is the biggest travesty is that you and your kind will deserve the kind of government that a republican government is going to give you.
The rest of us don’t.

So disappointing when it’s all UAW spewing right wing claptrap that I just trash, sigh. You are so right Blue! Where are these asses gonna be when there are no more
Unions, their religion is not the darling of the State, their kids are working at age 8…blessed are the wombs that never bore and the wombs that never nursed, indeed! I hope to at least have someplace my kids (and theirs!!) can land when the party is over, provided I am not murdered for it, which will be all too likely, I’m afraid. I ran across a David Brooks comment that enchanted me: the Rebublican party is “the receding roar of white America as it pines for a way of life that will never return”. But a dying beast is frequently at it’s most dangerous!

Even though Halloween is over and Thanksgiving and Christmas are yet to arrive, I have a between holidays’ wish for all the Tea Baggers out there and most especially those of you who bring your ignorant hate spew to this awesome website.

I hope that some day you and yours have to experience the loss of any one of the many human rights’ benefits that you rail against every day. You have parents and/or grandparents who are Seniors and perhaps you yourself get Medicare, Social Security and Medicade for long term elder care. I am sure you know someone who bravely served this country who gets VA benefits, a person who has taken out a student loan for college, has lost a job and had to find a new one, trusted the stock market to build a portfolio, had a life saved by early cancer detection, was raped, or had insurance coverage canceled for pre-existing condition. Some day you will need one or all of these things and The Tea Party will have destroyed it along with the Democracy in this country. It will have been replaced by an Oligarchy. Unless you are a billionaire, the Republican Tea Baggers despise you and have used you shamelessly to carry their bogus message.

The ignorant screaming at Governor Christie from the Tea Baggers is beyond belief. He was their “darling” during the Primaries. They would turn on their own mothers. I don’t care for Christie, personally, but when the chips were down for his state he stood up and asked for help from the federal government, got it and appreciated it. He was intelligent enough to understand that the problems were too overwhelming and the costs to great for his state alone to bear. That is why we have government. It is for the people, by the people. Something the Baggers refuse to accept. Something the baggers continue to scream about—–“to hell with them, why should we help them” ( wonder where in the Bible they found that !!!!!) This attitude is why so many of the RED states have recovered so slowly: they refused the help.

Red States, it is your governors and our Tea Party congressional members who have caused what you want to blame on our President and the Democrats. Tea Party obstruction and filibustering has run rampant since 2009. They made their mission perfectly clear, destroy this presidency and to hell with this country and its’ issues. Tea Baggers have made an art form of lying and hating. The biggest liars and haters of them all are Romney and his simpering, arrogant wife.

The bottom line for all of youTea Baggers is simple: a bi-racial man is in the white House, our country is in the best shape it has been in since 1999 and you can’t stand it. TEA BAGGER REPUBLICANS fight against “we the people”. DEMOCRATS fight FOR “we the people”.

Dems, get out and vote. If you experience any voter fraud at all contact your state Dem headquarters. There are poll watchers and lawyers on the ground, know who they are. If your county election office asks who you are voting for BEFORE they will give you voting locations, hang up, Call a friend or ask a neighbor, call your Dem hdgtrs. This very thing is happening in counties in Ohio— voter fraud at the Republican commissioners’ offices. Your vote is private and you do not have to tell anyone what it is. And Seniors, no one can come to your door, tell you that all you have to do is tell that person ( always a Republican canvasser) who you want to vote for and they will write it down and turn it in. That is voter fraud and your vote will not count. This is happening in Florida.

They are desperate and will stop at nothing. Their lies are monumental. Romney opens his mouth and a lie comes out. Go to his website…..you can clearly see that he has no plan. All The Tea Party wants is someone with enough digits to hold a pen and sign his name to their already planned legislation………don’t let them have that.

sidney-
No- the flying monkeys are distinctly different critters than the anon . They showed up well before anon here.
However, ignoring them is still the best idea.

Thank you Helen and Margaret for almost all of us in🙂
And yes, I’m all for voting Mr Romney off the island and requiring him to take the Bobs and Beths with him.

Thank you jonah! Keep up the great work!
And thank you to all those in swing states who are working so hard to get out the vote for the Pres. Dear friend in Miami is knocking on over 100 doors a day- long, long days- and getting a pretty positive response.

The spammer who on occasion floods this site is nothing but an immature asswipe, who is trying to screw with our heads. It is most likely one person signing under multiple names posting nonsense just to get a reaction from one of us. My guess would be that it is the poster formally known as anonymous. Let’s just ignore.

I used to comment on this blog as Beth, but I see that someone else is using that name and I don’t want to confuse anyone or be confused with her, especially in light of the fact that she and I are diametrically opposed in our opinions, etc.

Thank you M & H for another wonderful post. Romney should indeed be kicked off the island. I hope the recent events of Sandy do not have a negative effect on the elections. Every eligible voter should be able to vote. I fear that with all the power outages, gas shortages and transportation problems here in the aftermath of Sandy there are people who will not be able to vote!

Yes, cuckoos have shown up here. I have been unable to post. They can’t string two thoughts together and think they have it all figured out. They definitely can’t reason some of their positions. The fetuses defenders seem to forget that fetuses become babies.

Hiya M&H!
Been reading your fabulous blog since dear sister Sarah came on the scene in 2008, and lovin’ every post! It’s because of people like you that I’m working my tail off to re-elect a great president in the great swing state of Ohio, in the great swing county of Hamilton, in the great swing city of Cincinnati! We’re going to win it, ladies, if I have anything to do with it!!!

Romney’s closing statement boils down to this. If you vote for Obama the GOP is going to continue obstructing and nothing will get done. But if you vote for me the obstruction will stop. What is that called???

However, Romney’s secret plan is to buy up the government, skim off all the assets, break it up and sell off as much as we can to the highest bidder, steal your pension plan and healthcare and let the rest going into bankruptcy. And he will be off shore watching through heavy glasses.

OOOOhhhhhh, Beth! OOOOOhhhhhh Bob! So sad. You know what I thank God for? I am thankful I don’t have to live in your house or neighborhood, or area or city or…! Cuckoo birds, both of ya! May our paths never cross.

While I believe Beth had pure intentions, she appears to have poor communication skills. Praying for the souls of others is a kind and selfless act especially if those souls are about to put themselves in harm’s way like many of you will do when you vote for a man who has misled the people of this country which was blessed by God. Obama comes from darkness and God sent us a light in Romney to lead us to his safety. We can no longer murder babies and waste our resources on false profits like Obamacare. We can no longer turn our backs on the evil in the middle east simply because we have grown tired of the fight. Sometimes God brings war to lead us forward. That has been written many times. There is a spot between the ball and the hole and that spot must recieve the appropriate amount of attention so that the evil on the east can be destroyed. We drill to find the riches that God has given for us all to use. We drill to seek his very blood which light our way. I join Beth in praying that you will see the light and vote for Romney and Ryan who both know that abortion is evil and that God knows rape and sometimes in his plan for all there must be dark times for his children so that something as beautiful as life can be created even when evil exists. Pray with me as I pray for you. God’s love shines down on us all. Vote for Romeny and Ryan to restore goodness to the country which God had blessed. Peace and amen and forgiveness be yours. I am the reflection of his light only. Pray for Ann Romney that she will be still. Pray for Paul Ryan’s wife that she may move. Pray for all who seek his wisdom. Pray. Love. Light. Warriors in God’s army are you. United you stand under the floating pears. Pray and paint the light of the lord in your kitchen and he will warm your whole house. Pray.

“FYI – Ann’s “blind trust” bought the stock at $0.67 and today it closed at $32.56, which means that the stock is worth 48.6 times more than it was in 2009. Since her trust invested at least $1M (possibly much more), this means that the Romneys turned $1M into $48.6 million in three years.”

In Houston there is this artist who paints naked fruit all day. Naked fruit paintded by a naked fruit I tell you. He lives in a Beacon of Evil. Let us all pray that he will be saved from the first of hell for what he does to the doctor after drilling for more oil. Lo on to him who profits from the ruination of the earth that God created for us. He floats the apple that Eve offered to Adam.

Beth: Have you forgotten that Jesus and his disciples, etc were Jews. Also, You do realize that the US supports Israel. Guess what? They are a Jewish nation founded by Jews for Jews.
You Beth are no “follower” of Christ even though may think you are. Jesus, the Jew loved all of us and he even loves you although I think he may be disappointed in your behavior.

Beth, you are one of the many ignorant, ill-informed Limbaugh listening fools. God does not care about poitical candidates or football games. He does have something to say about haters, liars and cheaters……..

Romney’s crap continues and now he is getting caught: what a POS this guy is

Thursday, 01 November 2012 02:41
UAW Charges Romney With Profiteering From Auto Bailout
Toledo, Ohio – Wednesday Evening October 31, 2012
For Mitt Romney, it’s one scary Halloween. The Presidential candidate has just learned that tomorrow afternoon (November 1) he will be charged by the United Automobile Workers (UAW) and other public interest groups with violating the federal ethics in government law by improperly concealing his multi-million dollar windfall from the auto industry bailout.
At a press conference in Toledo, Bob King, President of the United Automobile Workers, will announce that his union and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) have filed a formal complaint with the US Office of Government Ethics in Washington stating that Gov. Romney improperly hid a profit of $15.3 million to $115.0 million in Ann Romney’s so-called “blind” trust.
The union chief says, “The American people have a right to know about Gov. Romney’s potential conflicts of interest, such as the profits his family made from the auto rescue. It’s time for Gov. Romney to disclose or divest.”
“While Romney was opposing the rescue of one of the nation’s most important manufacturing sectors, he was building his fortunes with his Delphi investor group, making his fortunes off the misfortunes of others,” King added.
The Romneys’ gigantic windfall was hidden inside an offshore corporation inside a limited partnership inside a trust which both concealed the gain and reduces taxes on it.
The Romneys’ windfall was originally exposed in Nation Magazine (and reposted on Truthout,) Mitt Romney’s Bail-out Bonanza after a worldwide investigation by our crew at The Guardian, the Nation Institute and the Palast Investigative Fund.
The full story of Romney and his “vulture fund” partners is in the New York Times bestseller, “Billionaires & Ballot Bandits,” available from Truthout with a contribution by clicking here.

According to ethics law expert Dr. Craig Holman of Public Citizen — who serves as an advisor on the charge — Ann Romney does not have a federally-approved blind trust. An approved “blind” trust may not be used to hide a major investment which could be affected by Romney if he were to be elected President. Other groups joining the UAW and CREW include Public Citizen, the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), Public Campaign, People for the American Way and The Social Equity Group.
President Obama’s approved trust, for example, contains only highly-diversified mutual funds on which presidential action can have little effect. By contrast, the auto bail-out provided a windfall of over 4,000% on one single Romney investment.
In 2009, Ann Romney partnered with her husband’s key donor, billionaire Paul Singer, who secretly bought a controlling interest in Delphi Auto, the former GM auto parts division. Singer’s hedge fund, Elliott Management, threatened to cut off GM’s supply of steering columns unless GM and the government’s TARP auto bailout fund provided Delphi with huge payments. While the US treasury complained this was “extortion,” the hedge funds received, ultimately, $12.9 billion in taxpayer subsidies.
As a result, the shares Singer and Romney bought for just 67 cents are today worth over $30, a 4,000% gain. Singer’s hedge fund made a profit of $1.27 billion and the Romney’s tens of millions.
The UAW complaint calls for Romney to reveal exactly how much he made off Delphi — and continues to make. The Singer syndicate, once in control of Delphi, eliminated every single UAW job –25,000– and moved almost all auto parts production to Mexico and China where Delphi now employs 25,000 auto parts workers.

Louis Ferrakhan asn’t said much that I agree with, but one quote attributed to him that I can get behind is this: “When a man kneels to pray, he’s putting himself in the perfect position for someone to come along and kick him in the ass.”

If Ryan/Romney are elected, I will peobably not survive to vote again in 2016.

And pray that those who kill babies suffer in the fires of hell. We have found where the head baby killer lives. He lives in one of the fancy high tide condos with all the Jews. We all figured out which balcony is his and we are send prayers to that balcony so that he will be stopped. And if it is not his balcony then maybe put prayers will help the Jew who does live there.
Romney 2012!!

All you people need to know that our Lord has sent these fine two gentlemen to us to save our country from the tailspin to destruction that the Obama Man has created for us.
Romney and Ryan will save us. All you people need to pray that they are elected.

The “relief” scenario Romney did in Ohio was all staged. His staff spent $5000 at Walmart for supporters to pick up at the door, pretending they brought in those donations for Sandy relief. Shameful and exploitive. Those donations couldn’t even be brought into NY. What is needed more is $ and blood.

Shaun, the damage to the economy was done before President Obama took office. He’s been mopping up the mess for the past 4 years and could have accomplished far more if he’d had just a little help. All things considered, he’s done a phenomenal job!

Freaking out about the supertight presidential race and the near-daily barrage of polls suggesting that Obama—no, wait, Romney—could, maybe, possibly, eke out a narrow victory? Sick of empty punditry and craving data-driven electoral analysis? Are you unafraid of mysterious nerdy things like math?

Don’t worry, once he loses, Romney will vote himself off the continent and on to a small island in the caymans. That way he’ll be close to his wealth and will be able to tally his tax savings daily as well as review the exponential growth of his 401K.

You make my day, although I am sure Obama will be re-elected. I just can’t fathom how Mitt Romney can mislead so many people. He’s going through the Teflon phase; nothing sticks to him just like a former president, the one who DID fool all the people all the time.

Helen there is not much point responding to each of your points as it wouldn’t be a conversation that would ever change your opinion. Suffice it to say I hope Romney is elected especially to save you from the damage our economy has suffered under the O.

Here’s another “octo” on the bandwagon. I have to admit that I miss Molly Ivins but Helen is as close as one can come to her. Witty, pithy, and always to the point, her comments are a joy to behold. And its always nice to see so many positive comments on the first couple days after her posts because you know that the uglies will be out in force by the third day.

I’m SO glad you retold the football field story. I thought I was the only person who heard it or who was totally disgusted by it. Mitt Romney could not relate to hardship if it hit him upside the head!

Just wonderful !!!! I always love your humor and wish I’d written that. You are fantastic. Keep on proving that not all Octogenarians are senile. We fellow ‘Octo’s’ appreciate you more than you will never know.

“The truth is, the next election has already been decided. Obama is going to win. It’s nearly impossible to beat an incumbent president. What’s actually at stake right now is whether or not he will have a third-term.”
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LOL…and Mitt is lying about cleaning up the football field as well. At Cranbrook, students would never be asked to do such menial labour. They had staff to do the work. Just like in “real life” for people like Mitt.

Good jobs report! The economy is picking up steam. I hope Obama gets re-elected to keep the momentum going and enjoy the fruits of his hard work. The last thing we need is the Bush-policies reprise that is being proposed by Romney and Ryan. And by the way, where is Ryan? I think he is so unpopular they put him in the witness protection program. Go Obama/Biden!

Obama has always tried to have compromise and work bipartisan .
Such a shame that the radical right wasted our tax payers dollars
Funding a senate and congress that sat on their hands and did nothing to prove their power.
Make your votes count to help our president in his second term.

Ladies, as usual you have said it all. But remember, dear voters, that we are the losers if Romney is elected. He is the biggest liar around. The people of Massachusetts found out the hard way that he had lied his way to governor. Please, please, reelect President Obama. He is a good decent TRUTHFUL man. He will pit this great country back on track. All Romney cares about is Romney, he’s a bored, liar who decided to buy the presidency. Please sho him some things are NOT FOR SALE!

Wild willy……..already done. I waited in a 2 hour line on the very first day of early voting in Florida. There are many irregularities concerning early voting and mail in voting already being reported in this state and they are all damaging to democrats.

I wish we could also vote Ann Coulter off the island. I’m tired of hearing her nastiness. And before we get all sweet on Christie, NJ was given $300 million to assist homeowners against foreclosures and Christie has only used $4 million to help homeowners. Por que?

I like Gov. Christie he shoots and talks straight. What he’s doing now is getting help for his devastated state. I’ve never liked Romney and he was governor of my state. Didn’t vote for him then, won’t vote for him now.

Whenever I see Romney talking at a campaign event, I look at the faces of those who went to see him, the ones applauding and holding Romney signs, and the only conclusion I can come to……..wealthy?……Racist?…….stupid?
WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?

Ahem. He went to Cranbrook, a very prestigious deep pockets private school for boys where, as I recall, the grounds were ALWAYS immaculate. Putting those boys to work and getting their hands dirty? Unlikely!!! They had more than enough money to employ a maintenance department which would have cleaned up with machines. Again, another lie.

As for Governor Christie, he always had a streak of renegade in him. Note his “Shakesperean” use of language in his many dealings with the public. Renegade. Not “maverick”. Big difference. His response to the situation is proof that you do not fool with Mother Nature. Mayor Bloomberg of New York City also praised Obama, but heck, Bloomie was himself once a Democrat and switched parties. Hey, Bloomie, the door swings both ways! You would be welcomed back.

Quite amazing how Rmoney remembers having to clean up a football field but seems to have no recollection of seeking out, holding down & cutting the hair of a fellow student who he (Mr. Important indeed!) deemed to be inappropriate.
It goes without saying that comparing the cleanup of a venue to cleaning up the debris from one’s home, if there is indeed a home left…or the cleanup of a city…is beyond comprehension to most people.
This man is a narcissist through & through.

Well, I never thought I’d have anything nice to say about Chris Christie – the man just irritates me every time he opens his mouth. However, this week I’ve been impressed with his focus on doing the right thing and having the guts to ask the President for help and to thank and praise the President for the strong job he is doing in this disaster. And I was glad to see the President return the compliments to Christie. They have both shown all of us what we should expect (and what we used to have) from our elected officials.

Ladies, thank you for your insight and words of wisdom. I especially liked the quotes from republicans about how untrustworthy and unqualified Romney is to be president. Romney is not only unqualified to lead our country, he is downright scary.

And really? That goofy story about cleaning up after a football game? We had 5th graders who knew how to clean up a whole 20 acres of woods after day camp was over. I can’t believe it took him that long to learn that lesson. But more to the point – it’s hardly anything like cleaning up after Sandy.

I like your idea of voting Mitt off the island – I already mailed in my vote and he didn’t get it.

I say keep Mitt on the island – provided that he’s tied to the pier at the low-water mark for the next storm. Just deserts for the man who wanted to turn disaster managment over to the private sector. If you want a look at what that would be like, read Carl Hiaasen’s novel “Stormy Weather”.

His ridiculous comparison of an “example” may be the first time he didn’t try to hog credit. AS if some messy football fans equals the devastation we’ve seen on TV and the loss of life!! What a douche he is.

I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone could vote for Romney…ever! It is obvious to everyone the many lies he has told, how can they even consider trusting him. Great post girls, you are more bipartisan than I ever could be…….Obama 2012

Looks to me like our President can and will work with a Republican for the benefit of American citizens. He does need a partner who puts the constituents ahead of the party. Governor Christie makes the “NEVER let Obama achieve anything” Congress look like selfish and spiteful trolls.

I’d bet Romney wasn’t in charge of cleaning the field. He was the whiner. Where was Romney in the aftermath of Sandy. Oh, yea he had that photo of him help load boxes of supplies in the midwest to send to the victims. He hasn’t showed his face within 1000 mines of the devastation. He’d have to ruin a perfectly good suit & pair of shoes. Hey Mitt. That would be a donation. You could take it off your taxes.