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I didn't think we were talking about the wealthy in congress. I thought it was about the unelected wealthy who are playing puppet master behind the curtain. That is who the blogger in UB's original post wants to protect. He believes that they should be able to pour money secretly into "social welfare organizations" and other tax exempt groups to do their bidding for them.

So Buzz...you are talking about the Union Bosses, Federal Union Leaders (EPA, NEA, IRS, etc.), Hollywood crowd, Billionairs like George Soros , etc.....you are right because these guys have the Democrats eating out of their hands for more money.....and direction on what the should do next...!

How many of these fellow libs are you falling on the sword for, Buzz???? When will you realize you are on the wrong side of history? When the socialists/Marxists come marching into downtown Brookings?

What's happening isn't just about taxes and Obamacare. There's lots of collateral damage taking place that might even effect you.

UB

In a 53-46 vote, the Senate narrowly passed a measure that will stop the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty. The Statement of Purpose from the Bill reads: "To uphold Second Amendment rights and prevent the United States from entering into the United Nations Arms Trade Treaty." The U.N. Small Arms Treaty, which has been championed by the Obama Administration, would have effectively placed a global ban on the import and export of small firearms. The ban would have affected all private gun owners in the U.S. and had language that would have implemented an international gun registry, now get this, on all private guns and ammo.

Astonishingly, 46 out of our 100 United States Senators were willing to give away our Constitutional rights to a foreign power.

Here are the 46 senators who voted to give your rights to the U.N.

Baldwin (D-WI)

Baucus (D-MT)

Bennett (D-CO)

Blumenthal (D-CT)

Boxer (D-CA)

Brown (D-OH)

Cantwell (D-WA)

Cardin (D-MD)

Carper (D-DE)

Casey (D-PA)

Coons (D-DE)

Cowan (D-MA)

Durbin (D-IL)j

Feinstein (D-CA)

Franken (D-MN)

Gillibrand (D-NY)

Harkin (D-IA)

Hirono (D-HI)

Johnson (D-SD)

Kaine (D-VA)

King (I-ME)

Klobuchar (D-MN)

Landrieu (D-LA)

Leahy (D-VT)

Levin (D-MI)

McCaskill (D-MO)

Menendez (D-NJ)

Merkley (D-OR)

Mikulski (D-MD)

Murphy (D-CT)

Murray (D-WA)

Nelson (D-FL)

Reed (D-RI)

Reid (D-NV)

Rockefeller (D-WV)

Sanders (I-VT)

Schatz (D-HI)

Schumer (D-NY)

Shaheen (D-NH)

Stabenow (D-MI)

Udall (D-CO)

Udall (D-NM)

Warner (D-VA)

Warren (D-MA)

Whitehouse (D-RI)

Wyden (D-OR)

Folks: This needs to go viral. These Senators voted to let the UN take OUR guns. They need to lose their next election. We have been betrayed.

I didn't explain myself when I commented above. It turns out that the NYT Editorial Board did it for me in today's paper.

It blows me away that you all seem to think it preferable to live a country whose political system is controlled by a small number of ultra rich sociopaths whose sole goal in life is to collect all of the world's riches for themselves. I'm sure they really care about you, your family, and your country. You all are way more concerned about hundreds of thousands of union members having the ability to pool their individually meager resources to defend their interests in favor of these few ultra rich being able to spend vast fortunes in secret to defend their interests.

From the Tacoma News Tribune, 1-25-2014 an excerpt:

Originally Posted by tnt

You've heard of Karl Rove's Crossroads GPS & other issue advocacy groups that don't have to disclose their donors. They are transforming American politics. These political non profits also exist at the state level. But much of this activity is coming from the left, not the right. & instead of TV ad campaigns, the activity is largely happening online & on the ground. A look at the tenant list of the Vance Building in downtown Seattleis a who's who of
"progressive non-profits", so much so, that you might think of this building as the headquarters of the progressive movement of WA.

Up on the third floor of this building is the most visible member of this network: Fuse Washington. ------------------- Fuse is a 501(c)(4) "social welfare" organization that doesn't have to disclose it's donors. This year they spearheaded the campaign to pass the "Dream Act", next years goal is the defeat of a breakaway Senator who defected from the D's to create a mixed majority. --------------------

There's a whole lot more in the article, BTW on the front page . You can go on with your imaginary ghosts & your quotes from an irrelevant MSM source, the real battle is on the ground & in the hearts of a whole lot of overeducated, politically ignorant & confused folks who think OWS, local Democrats & the POTUS will save them. The days of your family & their unions are not the same days this country faces. You need to put the education you received to better use & realize you are only believing one side opt this discourse when neither side is totally correct but the side you chose has not read the "wealth of nations" or the "intelligent investor'.

The Vance Building is owned by the family of a former prof of mine @ the UW who I told when I was there "the best thing he could do for education would be retire". He was probably 40 at the time. Seattle has a queer Mayor & a avowed Socialist (BTW- an immigrant from India, on a local JC faculty making 140K/year) on the City Council, talking of social justice. Folks are shortly going to realize she should go back where she came from, India has real social justice issues.

How many of these fellow libs are you falling on the sword for, Buzz???? When will you realize you are on the wrong side of history? When the socialists/Marxists come marching into downtown Brookings?

What's happening isn't just about taxes and Obamacare. There's lots of collateral damage taking place that might even effect you.

UB

Astonishingly, 46 out of our 100 United States Senators were willing to give away our Constitutional rights to a foreign power.

While I will let Buzz speak for himself on the issues he has raised, you are a bit off your own topic Bill but then again it is your thread.

I posted a link to the text of the treaty quite a while ago when you raised this issue before and you never responded. Can you please copy and paste the text of the treaty that "gives away second amendment rights?

On Obamacare, what is the issue?. It is the market based approach of competing insurance companies that bothers you? Or, it it the imposition of the individual mandate which was an idea that originated with a Republican think tank?, or it the fact that businesses don't seem to be very concerned about it effects despite right wing rhetoric (see http://www.bizjournals.com/bizjourna...about-fed.html), or the fact that despite the original setbacks that the exchanges are in line to meet targeted sign-up numbers (see http://www.businessweek.com/articles...target-numbers). Which of these are your concern?