"Genius is not replicable. Inspiration, though, is contagious, and multiform — and even just to see, close up, power and aggression made vulnerable to beauty is to feel inspired and (in a fleeting, mortal way) reconciled."
--David Foster Wallace, () "Roger Federer as Religious Experience"

It doesn't hurt either and you cut off the part about him having 3 years of coaching experience on top of the 15 years of playing experience.

I didn't. Acknowledged it in another post. Only pointing out that a number of posters have defended Robin solely because he played the game for many years. By that logic, a ton of players with years of service are "qualified."

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Ridiculousness across all sports:

(1) "You have no valid opinion because you never played the game."
(2) "Stats are irrelevant. This guy just doesn't know how to win."

Almost 100 games below .500, I'm surprized it wasn't worse. Point is that many managers who were good during playing yrs make lousy managers and vice versa...I know in my business some say the same about me.

As I see it, Robin had one good yr and one bad one. Let this yr be the tie breaker.

Almost 100 games below .500, I'm surprized it wasn't worse. Point is that many managers who were good during playing yrs make lousy managers and vice versa...I know in my business some say the same about me.

As I see it, Robin had one good yr and one bad one. Let this yr be the tie breaker.

I really don't understand the Robin hate. He almost won the division his first year and had a bad second year. There have been plenty of marquee managers that do well in one city and are dismal in other cities. Most of the time, it's the players rather than the managers.

I really don't understand the Robin hate. He almost won the division his first year and had a bad second year. There have been plenty of marquee managers that do well in one city and are dismal in other cities. Most of the time, it's the players rather than the managers.

I agree, he is a respectable, classy guy that handles the media well. In the two years here, I have not heard any personnel issues with him and the players. With the number of coaches employed these days, a manager doesnt need to be a great teacher or strategist. The key is to have the right staff. I dont think Ventura is hiring the staff so if there is deficiency in those aspects, the blame should fall on the ones who hire the staff.

I really don't understand the Robin hate. He almost won the division his first year and had a bad second year. There have been plenty of marquee managers that do well in one city and are dismal in other cities. Most of the time, it's the players rather than the managers.

Bingo. This isn't said nearly often enough on fan message boards.

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"We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the (bleeding) obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." — George Orwell

He almost won the division his first year and had a bad second year. There have been plenty of marquee managers that do well in one city and are dismal in other cities. Most of the time, it's the players rather than the managers.

Carrying out this logic, the position of manager is fairly insignificant.