Easy way of getting KDE 4 is to use Lighthouse Pup by Tazoc. LHP is based off the latest official Puppy release 4.3.1, with some very cool touches. My Puppy of choice currently.

Kdenlive is a free open-source video editor for GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, which supports DV, AVCHD (experimental support) and HDV editing. Kdenlive relies on several other open source projects, such as FFmpeg and MLT video framework.

The software was designed to answer all needs, from basic video editing to semi-professional work.

If you just wanted to test this SFS, I'd suggest testing on a pupsave you don't really care about because I think SFSs replace stuff when they're mounted and when they're unmounted the stuff they replaced is will no longer be there. I need to clarify on that point because right now I'm pretty lost on the whole making pets and SFSs game.

One more thing, feel free to rename the SFS as I stupidly named it "SFS" and only noticed after it was uploaded. If folks are using a Full installation, I've uploaded the pets too, just haven't written down the links, there are loads of dependencies.

Ok. To tell the truth I have double motives in posting this SFS. The first thing folks who know what they're about are going to notice is this SFS is unnecessarily big. On the plus side, if ya ever wanna compile anything you've got all the headers. But I know this is quite a disgrace to Puppy as the in thing is small as possible. I mean, it makes sense and I have no problem with that, but er, I need help. I have no idea what I'm doing when it comes to packaging stuff. Could someone who knows what they're doing when it comes to SFS download the giant and tell me what's safe to delete? Also it would be great if someone could explain the whole stripping packages deal. I tried doing it for my Cinelerra package, but I ended up with loads of dependency errors, so I just uploaded the pets without being stripped.

Sometimes I remove the demos, docs and man files, especially gtk-doc but they weren't large enough to matter on this one. Often packagers will separate the /usr/share/locale localization files into a separate package but here again it wasn't large enough to do that.

I read something about stripping on Barry's Blog but I don't remember what he said. /usr/bin was 44M uncompressed. I just stripped /usr/bin/kdenlive from 20M down to 2.7M and the app still runs with no errors in a terminal, but I didn't actually open/edit/save a vid yet.

Looked like /usr/lib was the biggest piece, 116M, maybe some of the libs are in LHP but might need your versions anyway.

Nothing like a good stripping and sounds like it needs it.
I usually use strip without any options and avoid using it on kernel modules.
With a kde setup the program itself was pretty small and so is the mlt it runs on.
Someone cut kde libs down to 10MB for running k3b on here.

Its that 'oh look how tiny it is ' satisfaction that makes us think size is important.

I think openoffice weaned me of being minimalistic.

I just need to spend time getting the hang of transitions and outputting to a format I want

Thanks for the thumbs up Dave and Tazoc, glad to hear it's working. Thanks for the mirror too Tazoc, it's an honor to be on LHP's site

Don't worry Mike, I won't leave Kdenlive as it is, I know it still needs a lot of work, but now I've actually made a successful SFS I think I'm feeling a bit more confident to give it a good stripping and shrinking. I like it how Puppians go to the effort to make things small, I feel it's one of the things that help us differ from the crowd in that we actually care about size.

Ok, here's my latest offering. I had ago at stripping the Kdenlive sfs. 42MB. Somehow I'm not pleased. I guess I wanted it smaller still. Kdenlive seems to be a very big package. Let's see what did I remove?

Got rid of the documentation in /usr/share. 5MB
Got rid of /usr/include/ and any folder titled "man". 3MB
A folder called in /usr/share called "locale" 2MB

The whopper slice was mostly from stripping the bin folder, but now what? It's still huge and I haven't even tried adding KDE libs to make it a standalone package like K3B. I suppose from what I've heard, I think it was what Ttuuxxx said, the next thing to do is to go around deleting everything and seeing if there's an error... But man! That sounds tedious. I might leave it as is. Hopefully I'll be content at sweeping off 30MB. Hopefully. I'll probably go and work on my Cinelerra SFS.

When I was putting together kde desktop/koffice this sort of size was to be expected but once done adding kde apps is just like puppy...eg k3b adds just 2.8 MB, khexedit less than 1MB.
One big puppy bonus is that kde/qt4 runs much faster due to the absence of the countless background daemons running...some distros are as bad as vista.

I think getting kdenlive running on nimblex was about an extra 4-5 MB...those core libs are the main bulk.

Actually, most of my Roxapps, including Kdenlive are big... they do not contain the headers or dev stuff, but they have all the dependencies self-contained (or at least they try to). That was my intended goal, however. Minimally packaged apps are for people who are more experienced with linux and puppy. My roxapps are aimed at those without such experience or desire to be always tweaking their systems. It's all a matter of preference, really.

Thank you for providing Kdenlive.pet package. However, I regret to inform you that kdenlive is not working. I try to launch through command live by typing kdenlive and reports that "error while loading shared libarires : libneponuk.so.4 ". etc. kindly lookinto this and provide working pet package.

Thank you for providing Kdenlive.pet package. However, I regret to inform you that kdenlive is not working. I try to launch through command live by typing kdenlive and reports that "error while loading shared libarires : libneponuk.so.4 ". etc. kindly lookinto this and provide working pet package.

Thanks once again

Hey Rameshiyer,

You're missing KDE4. I'd recommend using LighthousePup if you're not using it already. No one has come up with a stand alone KDE4 package yet. I was thinking about it, but I don't see any point as LighthousePup comes with it anyway.

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