Over the last year, AMD executives have been abandoning ship for rival Nvidia, and according to a new lawsuit, they took confidential information about the Xbox 720 and PlayStation 4 with them. Engadget reports that AMD has filed suit against four ex-employees, claiming that the executives absconded with thousands of confidential documents, including sensitive information about technologies at use in next-gen consoles. As our well-placed sources told us last year, custom silicon based on AMD's A8-series APU and HD 7670 GPU will be used in the PlayStation 4, while the Xbox 720 will combine an IBM PowerPC CPU and a custom version of AMD's 6670 GPU.

Eew. I know you squeeze more out of closed-system architecture, but both those GPUs are crap by any modern standards. I don't understand the point of next-gen consoles if they'll be offering low-mid range PC graphics. That's what the current ones do now.

"7670 GPU will be used in the PlayStation 4, while the Xbox 720 will use a 6670 GPU."

If the rumors are true and it's looking like they are then the PS4 will have a higher clocked CPU, beefier GPU and faster ram than the next Xbox. Yikes! I hate to say but it looks like those whispers of MS abandoning the core and focusing mainly on the casual market may have been true. D: If I'm wrong on this then please feel free to correct me on this.

which might explain comments like these that have been trickling in from devs lately.

Right....that may be true just like last gen but as long as sony has alienating hardware to develope for compared to pc and xox360, multi platform games will look better on next gen for xbox just because it will be easier to develop for.....besides,both of them are kinda weak in my opinion,so i dont know why stupid fan-boys like you are arguing over which console is less shitty lol..

You're basing this all on the hopes that Sony will go with proprietary set up? Sorry my friend but they've decided on AMD hardware for that very reason of making it easier on the devs. Aww so much for that little theory of yours. *sadface*

Then again it could work out for Xbox 720 with AMD Trinity + Mid power GPU + PowerPC CPU from IBM for Xbox 720. Say Power7+ at 32nm + AMD Trinity + GPU.

That's pretty big speculation and would lead one to think Sony might have a setup like that as well since they filled a patent for Dynamic context switching they could have an upgraded Cell or Power7 setup to emulate a Power series/Cell 2 like CPU + AMD Trinity/Kaveri + GPU.

Then again all of that seems like a little bit of a stretch. Could be a new trend with co-processing and big/little processing plans. Possibly with HSA making it all work in unison. If true.

@thegamerdood the GPU in the ps4 is garbage.the 7670 is just a re-branded radeon hd 6670 with a few enhancements on it thats it. that gpu is garbage and not powerful at all. its a low end GPU. if you think that the ps4 will be better than the 720 graphically because its using the 7670 you're sadly mistaken . again the 7670 is the 6670 but re-branded and a few new features thats all. no difference.

@happytrigger I also hear it will have a separate sound to take off even more work off the cpu, on the 360 the sound processing took over most of one of the cores on the 360, and some other things to help the gpu out

I seriously hope this isn't true. I hope they go with the 8000M, because if they don't I'm building a new PC this year, and I'll wait for these consoles.

There are too many rumors floating around, and I have to say I'm more willing to believe IGN's, now that there are lawsuits going on between AMD and former AMD employees who now work for NVIDIA (their enemy).

However, it has been stated numerous times that there have been multiple SKU's and these could have been some of the older SKU's, and things could have gotten better.

If not it's PC for me, until I see a library of games for the consoles.

That's the "better" card in the PS4 - supposedly. Look at the 3D Mark and Vantage scores. Those are tests that indicate the rough graphical capabilities of the cards. Just to give you an idea, my Sager laptop (680m) has a 3D Mark score of 7000. On a LAPTOP, with an OS hogging resources. The 7670 gets up to 2000 max. Higher is better.

A 7670 is not a good video card. That is a fact. It is mid to low tier. They are budget cards and you often see the mobile versions crammed into $399 laptops. They only saving grace would be if Sony double GPU'd it, because the functionality is better in that case - but still not up to anything remarkable.

I knew the jump was going to be small but NOT THIS SMALL!! I was expecting 800 pipelines minimum but only 480? That's like a 40 dollars card for god's sake! These next gen consoles CAN'T cost more than $300 I tell you if not then that's a rip-off just like the Wii U. ;______;

An APU (which has super weak CPU processing that can't even compete with the Xbox's CPU) paired with an HD 7670m... That's waaaayyy too weak!

Performance wise it is. It has less than 25% of the stream processors of a 7990 (2048). I'm not sure by what standards you think that isn't mid>low, but it is. Unless you know nothing about PCs. Plus the RAM clocks are miserably low. And by winter 2013, a 7670 will will certainly be outdated.

shit, everyone expecting NEXT GENERATION cpu,gpu,higher clarity graphic's and what not. seem to me if everyone wish came true SONY-MICROSOFT console would be 1200.00 or more. average consumer not able to afford it at the present economy time, just appreciate what we can get ps4 -720 probably be tweeked enough for illusion of 4k resolution.

it is only REAL to the mind that believe in the delusion of a illusion.

"Eew. I know you squeeze more out of closed-system architecture, but both those GPUs are crap by any modern standards. I don't understand the point of next-gen consoles if they'll be offering low-mid range PC graphics."

so what? the question is whether it's better than what current gen consoles have. if the answer is "yes", then who cares...

and stop comparing what goes into a console with what goes into a high-end PC because they're not the same thing, nor will they ever be the same thing.

I am not going to bother wasting my money the next gen why ? Well when you look at it the next gen is about 20 % more powerful than the wii u , you are not going to notice it at all and i have a wii u .

My laptop has a 5870M in it, pretty sure it's more powerful than the mid end cards they will be using in the consoles.. but then it's not much a surprise.

My desktop has the 5870 in it which is even more powerful than the mobile version.. probably walk all over these consoles.

On my laptop i can play Black Mesa full settings 1080P and the most it drops to is around 40FPS and is usually a nice 60+. Very good for a laptop, but i doubt consoles will handle that and 60+FPS constant.

It doesn't surprise me. I and many others have called this. Its silly to think when development costs get higher and higher you can keep expanding on power. What people want is more RAM.

I think next gen engines will be made to be more flexible. And I am not convinced Wii U would suffer much even if the consoles significantly outclass it. It will rule the Japanese market so developers there would naturally go there by default and its been proven all too often that power actually proves to slow down your console sales due to being more expensive.

if it was about power PS1 would not have outsold N64. PS2 would not have outsold Xbox and Gamecube. PS3 would not have fallen so far behind like it did at the start of this gen. PSP would have outsold DS. And Vita wouldn't be struggling as much as it is at the moment. So is there any real sense making the kind of leap we had before? Especially when you are bundling Kinect 2.0 in.

It would mean more expensive games (the kinds of prices we paid for N64 games £70), more re-releasing and DLC nickle and diming and more developers closing down so it just isn't worth going through with to please a small group of graphics lovers.

What bs . I guess you miss the constant graphics comparisons articles where console fanboys argue about minimal graphic differences. Not to mention the everytime a gow, tlou, or beyond article come up most of the comments are people gloating how beautiful the game looks.

Diablo, wow, Starcraft, ect ect ect sold millions of copies and I wouldn't say games like those would be a graphic whores wet dream.

I was a console only owner up until a year or so ago, and I thought just like most of the console only chumps on this site. I WAS WRONG! Pc gaming has opened my gaming tastes much wider. Apparently I'm not a gamer anymore though lol.

If this rumor is right, then next gen will be weak, and all the People shit talking the wii u will have to eat some crow. Looks like no 4k @ 60 fps with 3d after all, if this is true.

Obviously these specs will change, this was mentioned back in Jan 2012 possibly 2011. I will bet that Sony nor Microsoft will use these specs. So fanboys should stop boasting what will be the better console due to rumored specs. http://www.enstarz.com/arti...

its custom hardware people... the specs/benchmarks that many have gathered on 6670 and 7670 are almost irrelevant.... The ps3 had a modified nvidia 7800 in it for christ sake(!!) and some games on ps3 still look pretty damn good in my opinion.

are people forgeting that the APU has GPU capabilities as well? meaning the A8 can co-work like cross-fie with the 7670. Compared to a PC the PS4 would still be mid range, but because its a console and not a PC games are gonna be specifically tweaked for it to look there best, not to mention its gonna consumes way less resources then typical mid-high range PC.

So in other words the new xbox will be a weak POS.........great going MS. Will wait for E3 before i start planning on whether or not i should invest my money on the PS4 rather than an a casual gaming POS console

You can't say that, my advise is wait and see because all of this could just be bogus .

I am just gonna throw this out there. Do either MS or Sony have a track record for putting out "weak" hardware or do they both tend to be on the higher end. I will maintain both tend to be on the higher end of things. I have yet to see Sony put out devices (in the gaming world at least) that are considered weak going into a generation. And the same can definitely be said for MS. Look at their track record... Xbox was definitely on the higher end of things for consoles that gen. Xbox 360 we all now know was indeed a beast of a machine. Their surface tablets are nothing to sneeze at either.

I am confident both companies are going to release machine that will make any owner/fan proud.

i cant take these rumors anymore.. I just want to see finalized & official specs when they reveal them.. These new consoles may not be super power houses because they will have some type of casual gimmick involved too.. Who knows? Cant wait til summer! No matter what power PS4 has, i know ill get exclusive games that look beautiful from them.. Im looking forward to the games releasing this yr so i know nx gen games will make me even more excited