Jacobs blocked the road before more wild bison could be loaded onto trailers destined for slaughter facilities. Jacobs handcuffed himself to a hunter orange 55-gallon barrel filled with concrete, and wire-mesh webbing spanning the entrance to the roadway. Photo credit: Deby Dixon/ BFC

Jacobs was charged with three offenses: disorderly conduct, breaking a closure and interfering with a government operation. He was offered a plea bargain: if he pleaded guilty he would be charged $1,000 in restitution, be placed on unsupervised probation for five years and be banned from Yellowstone National Park for five years.

Jacobs did not accept the plea bargain, as he is awaiting further legal counsel. There will be a continuation of his arraignment on April 2. If Jacobs chooses to go to trial, he will be tried by a judge and not a jury of his peers.

Comfrey’s action demonstrated strong public opposition to the buffalo slaughter and has drawn an incredible amount of media and public attention to the issue. The day following Jacob’s blockade, Yellowstone National Park issued their only press release for this year’s controversial bison operations, announcing that the Stephens Creek bison trap was empty and Yellowstone had no further plans to capture this season.

“My action raised enough public awareness that Yellowstone announced a cease to their operations the following day,” Jacobs said.

This was the first time a citizen exercised civil disobedience at Yellowstone’s Stephens Creek bison trap. Yellowstone National Park initiates a seven-mile public access closure surrounding their Stephens Creek bison trap while highly controversial bison management activities are underway. Members of Buffalo Field Campaign (BFC) were present to document and lend support.

Comfrey told Buffalo Field Campaign, “I have no regrets. I accept all the consequences of my actions and hope it raises awareness on this issue.”

Since Feb. 7, approximately 450 wild buffalo have been captured in Yellowstone National Park’s Stephens Creek bison trap, located in the Gardiner Basin. 318 were shipped to slaughter or research facilities and some were released. Additionally, more than 270 wild bison have been killed by state and treaty hunters just outside Yellowstone’s boundary in Montana.

Perfectly formed and only six weeks away from being born, a buffalo calf, still attached to the womb, is discarded in his mother’s gut pile. Adult female buffalo are taking the brunt of the killing through hunting and slaughter. Photo credit: Stephany Seay/ BFC

Through hunting, slaughter and consignment to research, more than 600 of America’s last wild, migratory bison have been eliminated this year, marking a decimation of the world’s most significant bison herds.

“Comfrey Jacobs is a hero,” said BFC’s Executive Director Dan Brister. “His actions speak for thousands of people who are upset by the slaughter of America’s last wild buffalo.”

Yellowstone and its partners in the Interagency Bison Management Plan (IBMP) have set an arbitrary population target of 3,000-3,500 bison, yet a Yellowstone bison carrying capacity study has determined that the Park can sustain upwards of 6,200 wild bison. Additionally, there are tens of thousands of acres of public lands surrounding Yellowstone that could sustain thousands more.

“The IBMP’s population target is totally driven by politics with no basis in science,” said Stephany Seay, a BFC spokesperson. “Wild American bison are ecologically extinct throughout their native range, and while they have no federal protections they certainly warrant Endangered Species Act protections.”

The zero-tolerance bison politics of Montana’s livestock industry are driving the policies that are pushing these significant herds back to the brink of extinction.

To speak out against the IBMP’s slaughter visit the Buffalo Field Campaign’s page and take action.

Visit EcoWatch’s BIODIVERSITY page for more related news on this topic.

Comments

Kathryn Erskine

This man is right in what he has done. It is really evil and sinister to kill them off like that, completely unacceptable and must be stopped. They have the right to life like anyone else does. It is immoral to kill them off like that, innocently living and then taken to an evil killing place, well there is clearly no morality in the USA! and it all started this way when they killed the native americans, and now are killing off the native Buffalo. These stupid men in charge” must be stopped. How on earth do they get positions of power to do stupid things like this, when they are clearly too stupid to rule wisely! Let this hero go free without fines as he represents the wishes of the public and ha done a great service to humanity with his selfless act.

During times of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth becomes a Revolutionary Act” George Orwell.

I grew up on a farm/ranch and I will be the first to tell you the meat tasted a heck of a lot better when it was raised right. We had chickens in big pens out on pastures, the pens we moved so they always had fresh ground to pick through. This also meant instead of feeding them every day we just moved a cage that was on wheels about 20 feet.

Cows, yea we had those too. We also hunted dear, rabbits, squirrel, and various types of birds. The food was unlike any other I have found in this world. Other then in remote parts of the world where big corporations don’t control everything about food consumption. When you are outside of it and then get shoved into it. You have no idea what the real monster is until you are to deep in it to turn back.

We had huge gardens as well, I can’t explain how much different it is to go out and pick fresh mustard greens off the plant and cook them up fresh with a little butter and salt. The only thing you find on the store shelf is canned precooked mush. I thought about putting food or something there but there is no comparison….

Meat, is a big different as well. Frozen or even just “freshly placed” meats taste worlds apart! It is incredible we have come from eating food and instead we are just eating… I don’t wanna hear “Where is the Beef” or “Got Milk” cause unless you are from a place where I come from. All you have is processed and injected chemicals that taste like something we once knew called food.

Bison, have you ever eaten bison? It is an amazing meat, no I don’t believe what they are doing in this article is right, and I agree with the outcome of his actions. I hope they realize they are being dumb and let this man go.

As for the Bison, they should be hunted in moderation by people who will use everything possible from the meat to the skin and bones. There are tons of uses for every part of an animal. You learn things like that when you are taught to respect your surrounding and only take in moderation and give back in excess. That way you will always have enough for everyone you come in contact with and may the day come where you are every in need. Many will be there to reach out as you did for them.

-Tim

ivonne

Tim, animals are not food or slaves to humans. The right thing to do is to go vegan and leave all animals in peace.

terryr

Ivonne, sorry to inform you, but animal are food( for humans ad also other animals) work animals and clothing. It has been that way from the beginning of man.

Emily

It was that way back in the beginning because humans didn’t have many other alternatives. Now we do, and we really have no leg to stand on in terms of excuses or reasons why we should still be eating animals today.

J

Steve Jobs. One of the richest in the world. Vegan with Vegan chef following him all around the world. Steve Jobs with his diet and all the money one could have didn’t save him. His diet (other factors we could argue all day over) killed him. Vegan diet does not equal longevity.

MrJenssen

That’s a dumb thing to say. “His diet killed him”. Steve Jobs drove a Mercedes. And because he drove a Mercedes, and he died, then that must mean there’s a connection. Clearly there is a connection. He drove a Mercedes, and he died. Him driving a Mercedes was what killed him. The evidence is indisputable.

… What I just said makes just as much sense as what you said.

Divuthen

It did kill him. But he wasn’t vegan he was fruititarian. All he ate was fruit. While researching the role of playing jobs, kutcher adopted his diet. He ended up in the hospital with an acute version of what killed jobs. Vegetarian good, fruititarian not so good.

MrJenssen

He died of cancer, you know. Not bananas.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Ah Bananas the super food. If you ate, fish and Bananas all your life and picked some berries and ate those from time to time you would be very healthy.

LoriSlisher

It’s not about longevity. We are all destined to die. It’s about discrimination. If you want to be considered human, then you discriminate differently than an animal. Your taste and pallet don’t determine your diet, your mind and heart do. Steve Jobs could have eaten anything, ANYTHING he chose with his money. People eat the most disgusting “exotic” foods when they have a lot of money. But Steve Jobs chose to discriminate, taking only those foods which exercise compassion and restraint from violence. That makes a man human. It’s what makes us ALL human.

Donna Mae Lober

Maybe someone should throw your ass across a grill…you are meat too!!!

wrymind

You’re in favor of wasting protein?

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Aight, some people in the world wouldn’t have a problem with that. If you have a problem with it well… I mean technically its a waste to just let people die. Why not recycle them before its to late to get anything useful….

Ugh gross, just making a point the thought of being a cannibal sickens me.

Donna Mae Lober

It was NOT that way since the beginning of time!! Not until man’s fall into sin!!

wrymind

Oh, please. Participating in the planet’s ecology is “falling into sin?”

Donna Mae Lober

In the Garden of Eden there was no eating of flesh!!!

wrymind

Any direct evidence of that?

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

The Bible, if you believe it. Not my place to push my belief on anyone. I live my life the best I can and ask for forgiveness for when I fail.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Then SIN… there was NO EATING OF FLESH, there is now things changed. Not to mention if you are talking about the Garden of Eden then you must also know about God talking to Abraham and telling him to eat the animals and that if they were offered by God himself would that not make them clean?… Just saying you obviously aren’t up to par with your knowledge in this matter to even have a stand here.

Donna Minion Olsen Lober

There were provisions made for sinful, hateful man to consume animals…just as there were provisions made for man’s hardness of heart to obtain a divorce. It was most certainly not something in high approval by God, it was only to pacify hateful humans.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

It is way to early in the morning for me to be back on here but oh well…

Genesis says “Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

So you obviously are one of those people that pick apart the Bible and pull out what they want. Your kind makes me sick as you twist the words of others in order to best benefit yourself.

Donna Minion Olsen Lober

And you make me sick also, Timothy Bohrer, because you will not open your eyes! God commanded us to be loving CARETAKERS of the earth and the animals…GOOD STEWARDS…that does not include abuse!!! We are supposed to know better than them, yes!! Humans started out in the Garden of Eden where they were commanded to eat of the fruit and vegetation…there were animals there, but everyone was happy and enjoyed each other…animals did not have to fear for their lives!
If you think I am picking everything apart, try reading PROVERBS 12:10 in the New King James Version Bible…”A righteous man regards the life of his animal, but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.” (I don’t have to pick it apart, it’s all there…and God would NOT approve of blatant abuse of his animal kingdom)

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

I never said abuse was acceptable. I guess you didn’t even pay attention… just like you don’t in the Bible. All living things were put on earth by God for HIS GLORY… Humans, we made in his image and we are “care takers”. I agree with you in the sense that this world knows little about how to properly care for the animals we eat. I tell you what though, when I had to kill an animal that I raised myself because I knew that I needed to eat it. I have to tell you, it can be kinda a thinking process. It also gives you a new sense of respect for the animals life.

If you buy meat at the grocery store… then woman, “It would be better for you to tie a millstone around your neck and be thrown into the ocean” as you are only leading people astray. “A righteous man Regards the life of his animal, but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.” I don’t know how you got that its not okay to eat animals, or that it isn’t okay to round up a head and kill them for meat. I don’t think that they should be tortured or abused before their death. Yet, in that verse it clearly says the word “regard” which I am assuming you pulled all that nonsense out of. Regard means to: “consider or think of (someone or something) in a specified way”. So, if I think of a plant a tree, then I regard it as a tree. So, what the Bible says in that verse, pertaining to animals is that even a righteous man thinks about his animal in a certain way”

Would that not mean nothing about treating them badly? Unless you are talking about the 2nd part of the verse, which that makes no sense to me as it has nothing to do with animals as Jesus was teaching in parables.

I have no idea what you think you know about the Bible, but heed these words… You are spreading fowl and misleading lies you Hypocyte.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Haha this made me laugh.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

If you believe in what you just said then you also believe that God once presented animals to Abraham and told him to eat them… not killing and eating animals is something made up and has nothing to do with sin or god. Please keep God out of your idiotic rants. It makes you look like a lunatic…

Donna Minion Olsen Lober

I know just as much about what I am talking about as any of you!! You are all displaying your own ‘rants’!! You are a fool if you think that God does not care about animals, and I can quote scripture to prove it!!

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Well this is just a bunch of crap… God made humans to be better then everything else in creation as well as to rule over them. God gave us power… BEFORE SIN. After sin that power remains and it is up to us to govern and control. Yet we abuse this right and it makes me sick, the right is still there.

How can you be so blind?

Donna Minion Olsen Lober

You are the blind one Timothy Bohrer…God does not say mankind should massacre everything and chew on it’s flesh…he commanded us to be loving CARETAKERS of the earth and the animals…GOOD STEWARDS…that does not include abuse!!! We are supposed to know better than them, yes!! Humans started out in the Garden of Eden where they were commanded to eat of the fruit and vegetation…there were animals there, but everyone was happy and enjoyed each other…animals did not have to fear for their lives!

Donna Minion Olsen Lober

You’re an idiot…every time I hear that “animals have been food since the beginning” it makes me wanna barf. THE GARDEN OF EDEN!!!! IT SURE AS HELL WAS NOT SO THERE!!! Humans became sinful…THAT is when it started!!!

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

You quote the Bible and are a hypocrite as you do not follow the Bible just simply pull it apart and pick it apart to use it how you see fit…

You are not only a waste of time but a waste of a soul.

smadding

Absolutely. Most of what Tim says doesn’t even take into account the fact that humans do not have the rights to harm anything and everything on this planet just because it tastes good, feels good, looks good, it makes our lives easier, or simply because we want to.

1smartcanerican™

Seems to me that the cave men/women killed animals for their hides, maybe more than for food, so that they could have hides to keep them alive in the cold climates. The meat may, or may not, have been secondary. Animals were used as beast of burden in the warmer climates. Again, maybe the meat was secondary.

That said, this planned killing of animals while not even using any of it for the benefit of others is plain idiocy. Kudos to this young man for his stand to save the bison. I am definitely on his side in this fight!

Taraveah

If you knew any of which you rant and rave 1smartcanerican, then you would know that many of the buffalo culled went to tribes for CONSUMPTION! Interesting that you can so easily gloss over historical fact that animals were most definitely used for meat! This was not a secondary thought. I would love, love, love to see you in a survival situation where you weren’t literally dying for protein, which in the wilderness is mostly meat, unless you prefer to eat insects, if you can find them. Half the plants in Yellowstone will kill you btw and have been the death of many unfortunate souls.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

There is a difference in pets and food, I love my dogs and loved the goats I had as well. When you have something as food though (goats, pigs, chickens) if they are pets then there is a bond built there. If that bond is there, hell do they taste good? No I am not saying go eat your best friends family because you don’t know them as well as your best friend but what I am saying is just because you have some animals in your house that you are attached to doesn’t mean others have to be the same way.

I have had snakes as pets, I would never hurt that snake or want to eat that snake. Yet I am here to tell you that deep fried snake is amazing… and Alligator oh my!

I would never eat a dog, I have shared to many brotherly bonds with these types of animals to ever think about eating them. I just have to understand that in other parts of the world this isn’t so and people do partake in eating dog, this would also go for horses, and many other pets you would say are “American Pets”.

wrymind

Meat is a much more condensed source of energy and was decidedly NOT secondary. Wasting protein was probably the closest real thing to “original sin.” Our initial diet as humans was closer to salad and roadkill than anything on offer today.
The notion that animals should be spared while we eat only veggies has always seemed a peculiar animal-centric conceit. A redwood is certainly a more noble “beast” than the average rodent.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

The health facts in meat are outstanding. I would love to know more about the best types of meat and where to get the most nutrients. I mean kill what you need but why kill more? Especially if there was more benefits in killing specifically for the taste/benefit.

Jeff

Meat is not necessary to sustain human life or health, period. We can get everything we need from plant sources, and perhaps someday from biotech.

Jeff

Humans do not need to eat meat, period. The lives belong innately to our victims and as we do not need meat to sustain life or health, we have no reason to slaughter anything to merely satisfy the desire to celebrate our status as apex predator.

The issue is sentiency. If another can feel pain, then we have no right to inflict our will on it, especially to harm or kill it. One doesn’t have to kill a plant to eat its parts. An apple doesn’t die or suffer when we eat its fruit and a lettuce plant doesn’t die or suffer when we pick a few leaves to eat in a salad.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Finally, the first sane person to comment on this… I might have to keep reading these.

Jeff

We are modern humans and what was once done is not a reason to continue it. We have the moral obligation to not harm those we don’t value and defend them in law.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

So how do you move around? Are you telling me that you never kill any animals? I mean ever? You NEVER EVER KILL ANIMALS! I mean why would you you just said and I quote “Absolutely. Most of what Tim says doesn’t even take into account the fact that humans do not have the rights to harm anything and everything on this planet just because it tastes good, feels good, looks good, it makes our lives easier, or simply because we want to.”

Just in case you are to delusional to even understand what you just said… as in if you have ever killed a bug, or insect, or any other type of animal then you are not only a liar and what you said has no merit but its delusional… well never mind you obviously are delusional. Read the post I posted before this…

MrJenssen

Animals are not food, Ivonne? Are you kidding? That’s the only thing they are. Everything is food for something else. No wild animals just die of old age. Walk into a big wild forest on your own, and see how long you last before you’re something’s food.

Animals kill each other in the most brutal ways. Snakes devour animals whole, sometimes alive. Crocs tear animals to shreads while they’re alive. Some animals break their prey’s legs so they can’t run off, and then the predator lets the prey suffer for hours or even days, before the predator finally feels hungry and comes back to eat the prey. And plenty of animals kill each other for fun, sport or practice. If you’ve got a cat, then I can promise you it has already killed plenty of birds and mice. It’s what animals do. And we are animals.

That’s how it works. We eat animals. That’s just something you’re going to have to accept. But the brutal and inhumane treatment of animals in pens and so fort is NOT something we should accept. Animals treat each other with brutality, but we’ve evolved enough to be smart enough to find other ways. We have a responsibility, being at the top of the food chain – and pretty much “unbeatable” at this point – to do things right. Animals shouldn’t have to suffer their entire lives because we want some more meat or bacon on our hamburgers. That just isn’t right.

… But going vegan? Jesus, you’re ignorant.

Herbert Napp

She’s a spoiled lunatic probably on the east or west coast.

Donna Mae Lober

What a drama queen you are, and also a fool. It is only in the natural world that animals must do what they need to survive, you have absolutely no good reason to exploit them.

MrJenssen

A drama queen? I don’t even…

And I suppose you missed the part where I said “Animals shouldn’t have to suffer their entire lives because we want some
more meat or bacon on our hamburgers. That just isn’t right.”

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

I whole heartely agree, most of the animals we had were in huge pastures and did what they wanted and were well fed and housed.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Exploiting Animals? Please… if anything animals exploit humans. Not to mention their hard work and dedication.

Animals trample gardens all the time… gardens that “vegans” must have. If a vegan wants to be a vegan then they should try growing their own everything without killing any animals. Hahahaha, I would love to see that happen with ALL vegans.

LoriSlisher

So, what you are saying is that you want to be compared to an animal. You think like an animal, you act like an animal, and you eat like an animal. You have the intelligence of an animal, the mind of an animal, and the compassion of an animal. Why then, should anyone value anything YOU say? You are just a dumb animal. There is no question of “humane” treatment by an animal. According to your thinking, there is no real separation or distinction between people and animals. What is this “responsibility” you talk about? Animals bear no responsibility. What is the meaning of your evolution, if you still behave exactly like an animal? Worse, in fact, because animals don’t maintain huge slaughterhouses and attempt to manufacture other beings just for the purpose of murdering them. You make no sense.

MrJenssen

Of course there is a distinction. Of course there’s real separation. But you draw the distinction between “animal” and “human”. That’s assinine. The line is drawn between each species. A crab will not behave the same way as a monkey does. A worm will not socialize. Chimps have social meet-ups, they organize. They have societies. Hell, different monkeys act in different ways. The chimp and gorilla have both shown tendencies and behavioral patterns that remind us of ourselves, moreso than many other species of monkeys and apes.

Do you treat your cat or dog the way you’d treat a worm? No, of course you don’t. But worms and dogs are both part of animalia. They’re both animals. So saying that “we’re not animals because we don’t behave like *animals*” is just incredibly dumb, because no two animals behave exactly the same. You can’t just say “behave like an animal” and push every single species that ever existed into the same group and say “they’re all the same, and we are different from them”.

Trying to discredit my arguments by saying “you consider yourself an animal, so why should I listen to you?” is just… Wow. And this you said here: “What is the meaning of your evolution, if you still behave exactly like an animal?”… So you think the “meaning” of evolution is for animals become humans? You do realize how illogical that sounds, right? And not to mention that you’re talking about the MEANING of evolution. Evolution has no implicit meaning. It has no GOAL. It just is. It just happens. We humans give it meaning based on our own interpretation, because we love to rationalize things, to “figure things out”. And please don’t come here and say “Hah you said humans! you proved that we’re not animals!” – because that’d be like saying crabs aren’t animals because they’re called “crabs”.

Taraveah

Do you not realize Mr. Jenssen, that you just laid out a very good case for humans as the master species? lol

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Holy crap you type a lot. I think we are on the same page though. Read other replies I guess.

unity100

Are you a fuckin animal, jennsen ? Are you living in amazon forest, with a loincloth on your ass ?

Are you ?

If you arent, shut the fuck up with ‘animals live like this in the wild’. for you are NOT an ‘animal’ anymore, and you are NOT living in the ‘wild’ anymore, and you can bring no justification for behaving like them, in your advanced state of evolution.

if you oppose, take all your clothes out, put a loincloth up your ass, take a stick and haul your ass to amazon.

Herbert Napp

If he opposes, he will continue to kill animals and you won’t do a fucking think about it. Fuck fuck fuck. Is this getting through to you since I’m cursing? Wheere does modern technology / civilization / infrastructure start and end for you where you can hunt for your own food? I really want to know. Try to quantify it specifically without flowery vague language with a few curse words sputtered out. This isn’t tumblr or instagram.

unity100

Herbie, herbie herbie ….

Lets see.

Cattle farmers in midwest are complaining that ‘them vegetarians are killing the industry’.

Vegan/vegetarian options almost in every restaurant in modern, civilized big cities.

Increasingly stronger animal protection laws being made.

Factory farming sociopathy being exposed every other day.

There are a few species which are left to be massacred for enjoyment what is called ‘hunting’.

I pretty much think that he will eventually have to stop behaving like a caveman at this rate.

As for where does ‘modern technology/civilization/infrastructure’ starts and ends – with the current technology, it NEVER ends anywhere. Agricultural and distribution technologies are way past the point mankind would ever need to kill an animal, leave aside hunt, long ago.

The only reason we have famine in various parts of the world is that, the farm produce of those localities are being ferried to cattle industries in foreign countries to feed cattle there, turning more food into less food. Case in point – famine in africa being caused by cattle industry in usa buying up all the farm produce by strong arming the african nations through proxy regimes and military might of u.s. government. needing $38 bn in taxpayer subsidies every year in order to stay afloat in the process of course – for, turning MORE food into LESS food is something VERY expensive. So that people can be sold $4 shit called burgers.

You really wanted to know ? Well, now you do.

Herbert Napp

This didn’t refute anything regarding someone hunting and killing an animal to eat it. I’m sorry you wasted so much time.

unity100

if logical arguments and facts do not change anything for you, i wish you well in your lala land.

Taraveah

logical arguments and facts unity100? Where? LOL You must live in a city oh civilized you. bahahahahahahaha

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

I was born in the south and raised on one of the biggest farms in the area.

I know live in Colorado and am out of the Agriculture business and industry but have worked with the High Lonesome Ranch and know many people who work there including the main ranch managers and many of the hands. I am here to tell you the ranches are hurting because of the economy and unless you are eating fine dining and not fast food… then I assure you the meat you are eating does not come from American Ranches/Farms.

djlangel

I think this guy Jenssen is a vivisectionist, a real piece of apathetic shit!!

Taraveah

Then you think wrong djlangel and should probably stick to terms of which you really know the meaning lol

MrJenssen

Why thank you. You shound like a real nice person yourself.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Haha, I can beg to differ. Everyone says stupid shit at some point in their life.

gertrude

Unity 100 – That kind of language is not acceptable in a logical/intelligent discussion. You sound totally ignorant because you can’t get your point across without your trashy language. Give it up and go to another cause where this language is acceptable. You sound like you grew up in a gutter!!

unity100

What’s wrong with ‘growing up in a gutter’ then. Are you discriminating against low-income class people.

Donna Minion Olsen Lober

HaHa…good one…I understood your point completely! A human acting like he knows exactly what is going on in the wilderness, like he is swinging from a tree, is just ludicrous

bertha17

Wtf?? Like it’s clothes or “living in the wild” that makes humans animals? By your logic, the Amazon tribes are animals, yet you, although human, are not. That makes you about as ignorant as the early Europeans who called the Natives “savages”. I bet you think Africans are still monkeys as well. There’s something called biology asshole; and apparently it’s something you need to educate yourself on. Humans, like any other mammal, are part of Kingdom Animalia, you fucktard.

MrJenssen

So let’s see. An animal is defined by that of it living in the amazon rainforest, with a loincloth on its ass. That’s what defines an animal, huh? Living in the wild is what dictates whether you’re an animal or not? So your housecat isn’t an animal, is it?

Of course we’re animals. We’re animals that have evolved enough to have cognitive abilities. We’re able to reason, and to some extent even deny our instinctive urges. But that doesn’t change the fact that we’re animals.

… But even that, it’s completely beside the point. The point is that animals are being tortured to death, killed by other animals in the most gruesome ways. And those that aren’t killed by others – predators like the polarbear for example – often end up starving to death instead, in the search for food. Starving to death. I don’t think you can even imagine what intense suffering that is. THAT is my point. Animals suffer their entire lives. They’re put under enormous stress for their lives, from the moment they are born. Pain and suffering is not something we have inflicted upon them as a first, they’re quite “used” to it.

… But does that mean we have a right to do the same? Of course not. As I’ve said, we’re cognotive creatures. We’re capable of rational thinking. We have established moral laws for how we treat each other. So of course psychotic people who kill animals for fun, or farmers that lock their cattle in pens their entire lives shouldn’t be excused.

unity100

You know, actually it DOES. In ALL species that are increasingly higher in evolutionary pyramid, you see increasing ability to manipulate their environments and better their physical sustenance through that ability. From primates to cetaceans.

And, the evolutionary history of this current version of primates, homo sapiens sapiens, demonstrate that – go back in time and you will see decreasing ability to manipulate environment, and worse conditions accompanied by WORSE behavior – in between the species AND towards outside.

As species evolve, their ability to manipulate their environment AND their attitude among themselves and towards each other IMPROVE.

So, claiming that it is ok to keep behavior patterns that pertain to 10,000 bc, is flat out contradictory with evolution.

jesus put 420 for me to?

Well im going to speak 4 mr Jensen when I say yes he is an animal….. as u and I both are. All you eco crazed people need to get a grip and life…lol now don’t get me wrong they shouldn’t be slaughtered on a grand scale but god did put everything here for us
All of us to use. So stop writing miles of stupid babel and go take action like Steven did!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MrJenssen

God doesn’t exist.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

yea, so what I said before stands.

unity100

“god put everything here for us”…….. says WHO……. f’king nomadic arab tribes in freaking middle east, 3000 years ago…….. let that sink in. f’king ARAB tribes, in MIDDLE EAST DESERTS, 3000 years ago….. there is NO such thing in ANY other ‘religion’ on earth, ANYWHERE else.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Anyone using a computer is killing MILLIONS of animals with just the technology they are using… bugs are killing with electric every year and computers use electric… so if you are a thinking person like I am then you would assume they pay their electric bill therefore supporting the zapping of millions of bugs. Not to mention executions by electric, oh wait… watter boarding torture. Let me get into their use of water. I bet they have nice lawns and the drown ants every day.

DawnMarie Custer

Then I would suggest you hunt it and eat it raw. But most human’s do not eat animals raw other than maybe sushi but then it is usually consumed with fermented foods, to aide digestion.

Jen Bannister

Animals are food. Yet, we should leave the bison in this park.

MrJenssen

I agree. There isn’t exactly a plethora of bison left on this planet.

smytor

If you want to consider yourself to be an animal, that’s ok with me, but don’t include the rest of us. We are something more than animals, for better or worse. That should be obvious. Do you think the computer you are communicating with was designed and built by animals? When’s the last time you saw animals making fabric and wearing clothes? Driving a car, or flying an airplane? Shall I go on?

Your argument that animals (carnivores) are brutal, so we should be too, since we are animals, fails to consider the difference between instinct and conscious thought. Your sentiments as regards the suffering of animals are interesting, in that otherwise, I get the impression that you eat meat. Perhaps you are striving to convince yourself to cut back. Careful, you might end up being a vegan like I have been for about 30 years. For me, the health and longevity benefits are well worth it.

I might add that killing and eating animals is cruel, since animals are sentient beings, and will fight for their lives if given a chance. They are no match for us, with our guns, fences, slaughterhouse tools and equipment, etc.

There is also the issue of human overpopulation, wherein meat eating is very inefficient, since it takes quite a lot of animal feed, some of which humans could be eating, to bring a ‘meat’ animal to the table. We can live long, healthy lives with very little if any animal protein, and overpopulation would be much less of an issue. The crops we grow to feed animals could just as easily feed us, and it would be far more efficient to do so.

MrJenssen

Clearly, you haven’t read anything I’ve written. I am not arguing that we should be brutal because predators are brutal. In fact I argue the opposite. Because we are more intelligent, because we are at the top of the food chain, we have a responsibility to NOT be brutal. All I said was that animals are “used to” dying in brutal ways. It’s how it WORKS. But I’m not saying that’s how we should do it. We should find humane ways to do it.

And don’t flatter yourself. You haven’t exactly invented anything important, have you? I bet you can’t even explain how electricity is produced, how it ends up in your light switch, and what happens when you flip the switch and a light bulb pops on in your ceiling. Yes, HUMANS have invented many great things. That’s because we are more intelligent than most animals, AND we have a thumb sticking out in a different direction from the rest of our fingers. But just because we can do more than most animals, doesn’t mean we’re something more than animals.

That’d be like saying a monkey isn’t an animal, because a raccoon doesn’t know how to use a stick as a tool, but a monkey does. What makes something an animal, is NOT defined by “how good it is doing”, or “what it can do”. Many animals have the capability to think, to rationalize, to remember. Many animals exhibit personalities, and things they learn in life that is not based on instincts. Hell, my cat even learned to use a loose metal rod on the balcony door as a doorbell to let us know she wanted to come inside. When she had three cubs, she taught this to them. We kept one of the cubs and gave two away. The one we kept, used that doorbell his entire life.

Many animals learn and think. We’re just better at it than most. And as a result of our technological strides, we have left our instincts further back in our minds over the past few dozen millennias, because they are of less need to us. But every day you hear about it in the news, someone doing something seeminly irrational in a fit of rage or fear, demonstrating that we haven’t left our animal instincts behind entirely.

It’s funny, you’re talking about animal cruelty, but you really sound to me like some sort of hippie. You’re willing to talk about what’s right and what’s wrong, but you don’t exhibit much knowledge about animals in general, and you seem to think we’re something faaaar greater, so much greater that we can’t even be compared to other animals. You seem to think that we’re the only animal capable of learning, thinking and rationalizing. “Let the elephant out so it can be free!”. Yes I agree, keeping an elephant in a circus is just cruel. But make no mistake, once you let it out in the wild, it’s not automatically just gonna become happy and live life to its fullest. It’s likely going to die a violent and brutal death, because that’s how nature works.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

I love this post!

Thank you for taking the time to post it first off. I honestly don’t think I could of said much anything else better.

SeaLion

Plants are living things too. Don’t be a pseudo-pious hypocrite. Life feeds on life.

wrymind

Yes! Is it somehow “better” to level an old-growth forest to grow your GMO corn?

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

USA is about the only country that even allows GMOs. Most other countries that had them now have them banned. Your info is whacked if you think other wise.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Circle of Life, its kinda obvious even if people can’t see it.

anemic-carnivore

Vegan life will kill me. In my eyes my life is more important than any animals that includes yours. Don’t push your belief system on others if you don’t expect to be eaten for it. You are just a salad to me.

LoriSlisher

In your eyes your life is more important. But why should I accept what you see as the truth? A blind man may refuse to accept the fact of the sun, but his refusal does not prevent the sun from rising. You have accepted ridiculous nonsense as truth. Being anemic is no barrier to vegetarianism. There are many, many foods that contain the specific proteins and iron to correct your condition. Better in fact, than contaminated, toxic meat. Educate yourself instead of making excuses.

sick of it

Can anyone say “lunatic fringe”? It is really rather entertaining however, Lori Slisher – you talk in circles and make absolutely no sense. Your brain cells are probably starving. Ah, so entertaining. Wouldn’t last one second in a survival situation in the wilderness.

Guest

YOU are a fool!!!! Animals are BETTER than the likes of your sorry ass!!

Ben Franklin

No that’s just you being judgmental of others. Animals are food. They are food to people and food for other animals. That is a fact. The right thing to do is to allow those whom job it is to manage the herd since it is their job.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

I don’t see the need to NEVER kill ANYTHING… If we did that, the world would surely become over run with things out of out control. As humans, isn’t it our duty to help govern and maintain the world? We are by no means doing this, but I see animals as our allies in taming the world we live on. I see them as more then food, in most cases they are companions, pets, guides, teachers, hunters, builders, survivalists, and much much more. If you don’t first respect what something is then how can you ever understand what it is used for? If something is in question then forcing your opinion on someone is never the answer. If you believe that no one should ever kill anything then good, actually very good for you. As I know there are 100 more people out there the opposite as you, that are killing for fun, and forgetting the meaning of life. Respect for life is something of the past and one thing I do admire people who share your opinion is the very strong will to preserve life. I would also agree with you in the sense that Abortion is very wrong, as taking a human life is another matter. As, unless you believe that humans are just another animal on this earth, you have to realize that animals are here to assist us, just as much as we are here to assist them. I am sure you can agree with at least some parts of what I am saying here.

MrJenssen

For millions of years, nature has remained “stable”, without any one species of animalia ending up on top and dominating everything else. The world has never been overrun.

… Until now, that is. We humans overrun the planet. Don’t say that if we humans don’t kill animals, then the world will be overrun by animals. Because it’s not ever going to happen, even if we try and let it. Nature balances itself out. If there is more prey, then predators have more cubs that grow up and kill more prey. Then the amount of prey is decreased, it gets harder for predators to find prey, so they raise fewer cubs. Then the amount of prey increases as there aren’t as many predators anymore, so the predators have it easier finding prey, so they foster more cubs again. And around and around it goes.

The only thing really destroying this balance, is us humans.

wrymind

As “Predators-In-Chief,” we DO “govern and maintain the world,” whether consciously and actively or unconsciously and passively. We just need to accept it and get over ourselves.

Donna Minion Olsen Lober

The world is OVERRUN WITH HUMANS

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Stupidest thing I ever heard… move to a remote location.

Oh wait, if it is overrun then you should just kill yourself…

winonesoon

Vegans are the cause of more animal deaths than meat eaters. Farmers, in preparing fields, kill nesting birds, gophers, mice and any other animal that happen to take up residence there.

Leah Fresh

Yeh and where exactly do you think animal feed comes from? The same fields where birds and mammals are killed, not to mention the acres and acres of rainforest that are destroyed to make room for animal feed crops. So what you just said is completely idiotic.

Many vegans try to eat as much local, small-scale organic food as possible from farms that participate in agri-environment schemes to protect local wildlife. It’s a better diet for your body, for the animals and for the environment and if you dispute any of those facts it only takes a little research to uncover plenty of journal articles to back it up.

Not being able to do everything is not an excuse for doing nothing. At least we are trying.

winonesoon

I would prefer to being a little more mature than what you are portraying yourself to be. If what I said was incorrect than don’t get yourself in a childish tantrum and tell me what I said wasn’t correct and the reason why. I dispute none of your so-called facts and neither should you dispute my FACTS! Now I am sure I could go journal for journal with you telling the pros of Meat.

Essloyd

You have an opinion and I strongly disagree with it.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Haha you are a nut job. So you are telling me that you never kill ants? Bugs? What about abortion? You against that too, I am just curious if you are. What about free will, and human rights.

Are you actually telling me that you believe that we as humans are supposed to not do anything sit around and let the trees grow and animals live in peace. I mean technically, if we aren’t allowed to harm animals how would we build shelter? I mean I am sure even building a simple shelter to live in or even taking a cave would either put an animal our or the movement would obviously kill something in the process. Not to mention bacteria? What do you think about germs, has it been proven that they don’t think or have brains or functions, I mean I know a virus knows to attack to a weak host and there is war inside your body every day on a cellular level.

How could you say “The right thing to do is go vegan and leave all animals in peace” I mean you did say “ALL ANIMALS” did you not? No of course you did, its in black and white. If you truly believe this then okay you are obviously insane and need to be put into a nut house.

Thanks and well, everyone commenting on this in support of it is just as crazy as you are. Why waste the time on something so obviously stupid…. what a waste of time and nonsense. Good luck wasting your life imma go forget about this again and probably not come back… wow how many people actually care about this??? Obviously a lot… so my bad I know I just pissed like 1000 people off in the world. Good thing there is another 6.8 BILLION people in the world that don’t give a shit if I kill 1000 cows and make sloppy joes or eat lettuce and tofo (I love tofu btw) the rest of my life.

If this is you fine, its crazy and messed up to me… I hope you are happy. If you aren’t check your life!

-Tim

tina

Ps we are slaves to animal I believe in butchering and eating what I raise goats are for milk and meat sheep are meat for me and my dogs chickens are for eggs and meat the cattle are for milk and meat my horses and dogs and cats are for me to sleep with and protecting the livestock no way would I ever change but its not right for the buffalo to get slaughter ed but it is not pumped full of steroids like most meat in the markets

Glenna Hayes

You have your justifications and excuses to make you feel better about your actions. When the true reality is, you USE these animals for your own purpose, which is NOT why they are put on this Earth. There is an eco system to balance and capturing, breeding, and slaughtering animals by the millions is NOT how it is meant to work. Have you not looked at the Earth lately? We are over populated, over consuming parasites on this planet.

sick of it

so interesting people like you that refer to human kind as parasites, just short of mentally challenged, certainly delusional. I’m sure then that you live in a hut or a den and scratch in the dirt for your food, right? Grubs anyone? What a joke.

Glenna Hayes

I know how to live off the land in my local region, I don’t see that as a negative. We are parasites, we are taking over the Earth and sucking it dry of it’s resources. Not all humans are bad, but the majority do not care about the life surrounding them unless they can benefit from it. So you tell me how we are nothing like parasites and maybe you will change my mind. Your insult was a joke, just like your life.

sick of it

This is has been so entertaining! Thank you all for your oh so enlightened responses. Links anyone to back up you flimsy, ludicrous claims? We are NOT parasites Glenna for several reasons. I don’t care to change your mind. Apparently it is firmly entrenched in bitterness for your very own species. Like I said, delusional but extremely negative outlook at the very least Glenna. Enjoy your carrots. hahahahahaha And I’m sure you live completely independent of ANY modern conveinences – yea right.

Glenna Hayes

I don’t think anything I mentioned is ludicrous, research how much of our natural resources are left on this planet and the current population growth. It is all there, just ignored. We as a species over consume and are running out of time and resources to back up our consumption. Modern conveniences? Yea I do in some cases because I do not have a bunch of farm land or equipment to make a lot of things, however I stick to a clean healthy diet of just local foods and resources if I cannot make/grow it myself, I never once claimed to live independently of any outside resources. I simply claimed if needed, and when needed, I know how to live off the local region. I do have a negative outlook at humans, can you please enlighten me on some positive ones? because all I see is destruction and disregard to all living beings on this planet but our own. I am very happy with my veggies and my health, 25 with the healthy age of a 18yr old and was once 300lbs and now a healthy 140. So go choke on a hamburger, no one will miss your selfishness.

sick of it

clap, clap, clap Glenna Hayes…too bad you have the name of an 80 year old, sure could of fooled me. A 25 year old with a negative outlook on life because she is a self hating human. I certainly can’t change that for you. You choose to see what you WANT to see. Might as well be 80. Enjoy your carrots!

Glenna Hayes

Hahah you seriously have no knowledge or facts to back up anything that is spewed from your ignorant mouth. Get an education, it might help you open your mind to other things in the world BESIDES YOURSELF.

sick of it

Is that the pot calling the kettle black? Have you ever bothered to research wildlife management in Yellowstone Glenna? …..I have

Mike Fleming

You think humans are not parasites? Just look around you at the world today..No creature on this planet has done as much damage as the human race…. Pollution, destruction of insect species that are vital to food production and wars that leave scars on the planet that may never be reversed…. Cut down your coffee intake junior…. This much hatred over a mans decision to do what he felt was right is pathetic…What did you do today except take a crap and vent at others..

Parasitic lifestyle

Its true, we are parasites. Not that i care much, I am what i am, and im either for the total extinction of man or the total annihilation of this earth. Whichever comes first, We will bring it on!!

IF you dont like being Human, i suggest killing yourself and starting a new life!

Mike Fleming

Judging from your reply my guess is that you are one of those people that was picked on all through grade school… You are pathetic…. Telling someone to commit suicide because they do not agree with you is such a pussy response from a mad little boy…… As for not caring about the destruction of mankind, you seem to be the only one that negative …. The rest of the people here at least make adult comments….If I were a religious man I would pray for you….

Mike Fleming

Do not misunderstand me… I love meat…I ate deer for lunch today that I killed and dressed myself…. I am not a vegan but respect their life choice….. If it came down to an animal or me the animal would not be the one I would bet on…. Food is survival but the mass thinning of the herd is not necessary…. War is thinning our herd daily…. Your comment would indicate that you agree that it is good that humans die daily…. If so, take one for the team…..I doubt anyone would miss you..

sick of it

Sorry Mike, you are extremely easy to mis-understand since you talk in circles and seem to have great difficulty with reading comprehension and inferrence of any kind. That’s great that you respect “choice”, can you say the same about half the vegans and eco religious fanatics posting on this site? Are they respectful of other’s choices? Maybe you should read all the posts before just jumping on the “I hate humankind bandwagon?” Just a thought….

sick of it

I for one do a lot of good for others in this world, and I embrace humanity, and life in general. I am happy. We live in a beautiful world and I aim to enjoy every second of it! Today I am sick, or else I wouldn’t spend 10 seconds with the lot of you. BTW, I have never said anything about Comfrey except to praise him for standing up for his convictions. I however, take deference with most of the completely narrow minded, bigoted, hateful and arrogant posts on this thread. I am not a parasite and neither are the conservationists charged with the responsibility of wildlife management. You wouldn’t have the balls to do what needs to be done to be a real steward of wildlife. And, I think it is very sad that there are so many self-hating humans posting here. It can only be described as a mental disorder. I choose to enjoy life and the people in it.

Glenna Hayes

I think it is sad you think HUMANS are some kind of MASTER SPECIES that can CONTROL NATURE.

sick of it

I think that is a FACT Glenna (only no, we don’t control nature – just one reason why global warming is such a fantastic hoax)

Dustin Tapp

We are not the master species…bees and ants are far more masters of this world than us. We rely on them for our survival, for the fruit that sustains a thriving body and the rest of the eco system. You remove them and everything is done, you remove us and everything benefits.

sick of it

Wow, just wow Dustin – But thanks for yet another validation of the sheer insanity of people like you.

Dustin Tapp

To be a bee would be amazing. Complete flight control, see the world from a new micro-macro perspective, be incredibly impervious to most anything in your environment, and best of all complete synchronicity among your species, something humanity is incapable of.

Please be more detailed in your accusation and labeling of me? What particularly is ‘insane’ about what I said? I might have to suggest you are appearing rather insane. I will also suggest why – you are aggressive and violent with your speech and make vague generalizations and accusations, most of which you don’t even bother to indicate why you feel that way. Though I wouldn’t actually call you insane, I’d say you exhibit sociopath traits based on what I just described. This isn’t a judgement, this is a very candid observation.

Donna Mae Lober

I’m not sure if he’s a sociopath or a psychopath, but he likes to make fun of others, while hiding behind a ridiculous name!!

sick of it

Please see my comments above Donna Mae Lober, one of the most hateful, vitriolic Mysanthrope’s on this thread

sick of it

You would really rather be a bee, if given a choice, than a human Dustin? That is the question I posed. Not a bee for a day, but a bee for the entiretly of your life, Instead of a thinking, living, human being?

If you would rather be a bee and live for maybe 140 days without the ability to create any meaningful relationships, without the ability of indpendent thought and free agency, then yes, I think your statement borders on insanity. Not to mention your assertion that the earth would be better off without our species completely! If not insane. then it is rather short sighted, and at the very least a completely misanthropic comment.

Have you seen pictures of the west from the 1800’s? It was primarily a wasteland. It was OUR species that turned deserts into a viable, thriving, productive eco-system – not bees. Before man cultivated the land, it was barren and mostly uninhabitable.

Are bees and ants necessary? Absolutely. Are they masters at what they do, of course. Are they the master species? Hardly. To say humans have absolutely no place on earth? What else would you call that except an insane comment, especially since we ARE here and we aren’t going anywhere, not to mention, on what evidence can you possibly make that assertion?

Man also has the incredible ability to create, to think independently and have free will. We are not driven soley by instinct. We are also EXTREMELY adaptable and we survive even in the most extreme conditions. Bees can’t do that – We also create, manage and yes, we dominate. Not necessarily a bad thing, especially when considering self-preservation. All species do the same, to the extent they are capable.

And even with that all said, man cannot control the elements/nature, which is FAR and ABOVE more destructive than man could ever be, especially if you consider viruses and disease a part of nature. However, man is the only species that is even able to combat disease and solve problems, which has not only saved multiple lives, it has benefited lives of animals as well. So it becomes a matter of attitude and perspective and Misanthropy (the hatred of humanity, which is the vitriole on this thread) has at it’s roots the same roots as sociopath’s and psychopath’s (Donna) which in part is anti-socialism, isolationism and hatred, including, as Plato put it, “an excessive naive optimism”. Regardless, this “condition can arise partly from dis-like and partly from ill-will” which can definitely be labeled as insanity, which is merely the deviation of normal thought (most people are not self-hating, and would rather NOT be something like a bee).

It is not me that is shouting from the top of my lungs any hatred for humanity (Donna), that would be just about every Misanthropist on this thread and has at it’s roots hatred, ill will, distrust and the same naive optimisim found in any religious fanatic, and is most certainly a deviant behavior, disdainful and an extremely negative characteristic.

And yes Donna, I will definately call out people that hate their own species. There is no real thought process behind your assertions – especially those of you calling for the death of another human being because you don’t agree with their wildlife management policy’s. You (collectively) are completely unable to see the point of view of anyone else because you have let hatred and disdain for humanity completely cloud your vision, which again, is the definition of a mysanthrope, which closely share the traits of a sociopath and psychopath for that matter, which can all be called insane, Dustin!

You asked for my reasons, you got it

Dustin Tapp

Bees think. Yes I’d rather be a bee for 140 days. You are suggesting you somehow experience a more rich life than a bee because you are human. I don’t imagine you to be very imaginative.

Unsure I agree with whatever comparison to 19th century to now. We’ve killed off more of nature by our presence in the last 200 years than probably took place in the last 2,000 years. You are looking at it from an anthropomorphic perspective that somehow barren land is ‘bad’ when in fact it is only barren to us. Plenty of life lives even in a desert.

Lets even assume what you said is right. The only reason we ‘pioneered’ the west was by war and feuding with our own species that already existed here, relocating and exterminating most of them. During the same process we brought slaves of our same species from another continent not of our own origin either and used them to ‘pioneer’ the new land. Then we again used the chinese from a whole new land to build the railway system. The list goes on and on. We didn’t even have equal rights for women for the overwhelming majority of our small existence here.

We are so young and extinguishable. Many of the oldest life forms on this planet are 100-1,000 times more ancient than us.

You do realize that most disease is man made and that nearly all maladies humankind suffer from is diet related? Creatures in the wild, in comparison to humans and their domesticated pets and livestock suffer no where near rates of disease or illness like we do.

Can you name some redeeming qualities about humankind that you can provide as evidence that I or anyone should not detest the greater majority of our species? I would prefer you use yourself as an example since you are so fervent in this stance. What sort of philanthropic pursuits and altruistic qualities do you subscribe to? What common good do you dedicate your life to? Where do you spend your time volunteering? Where do you spend your time educating? What do you educate on? What evidence can you provide outside of your own anthropomorphic perspective and own self interest?

Taraveah

Hi Dustin. Good to hear from you. I understand your viewpoint. I really do. I have heard it multiple times. I, however, do not agree with you, not in the least. I like being a human, and yes, I emphathatically suggest that I have an incredbile rich and amazing and beautiful life, much moreso than a bee. They are driven solely by instict Dustin. What evidence do you possibly have that they are capable of thought and free will? Unlike you apparently, I like our species and I already brought up several points why. I have to wonder if you have ever had the opportunity to have the miracle of having a child? You choose to only focus on the negative aspects of being human, that’s fine. I choose to focus on what is good.

There is opposition in all things, nature included and nature being the most violent. The queen bee, just one case in point, cannibilizes her sisters….are there things that I wish would change about humanity? Absolutely. Again, we are both good and evil – ying and yang, and all that. It will always be – Nature included. I suspect, that in the end, nature will ultimately be the end of Earth completely. Afterall, Earth is not immortal. She too will die, just as all giants in our solar system pass away. It is a universal truth, which cannot be altered. We are powerless to stop it. So in the meantime, I will enjoy my life as a spiritual being, and be grateful for it, the good and the bad. And because you asked, I am currently working on my master’s degree in psychotherapy.

Dustin Tapp

I’m not sure humanity is any less free of instinct and we are all subject to reaction or response of cause and effect. You can attack a bee and it will respond the same way a human will, either flee or fight.

There is only one thing that separates humanity from the rest of our world, and that is intention. Not illusion of free will, not intellect, power. It is our own ability to recognize our intention, everything else facilitates this and is part of the illusion. I am a great human being not because of my achievements, but because of my intention to be consciously aware of my ability to be kind, emphatic and thrive in life all at the same time. Human life is about needs and I suspect you have not identified with any needs of empathy, kindness, compassion, care, temperance or many other traits that would suggest a better relationship with the world around you.

I feel you view the world as against you more than I. I care deeply for the small portion of the population that is compassionate. I have no room for rapists, murders, subjugators, manipulators and exploiters. I understand their necessity, but that does not mean I must respect them when they have willful intention like yourself to be careless towards creatures who mean you no harm.

I am unsure a masters degree in psychotherapy has any altruistic qualities. Traditionally schooling for anyone is solely about their own interests. Especially psychology, since in my experience in this age nearly all thinking individuals who pursue psychology have had deep pain themselves growing up and have devoted a large part of their life to uncovering it. I know from experience and observation this to be true, a severely close friend of mine has a masters in psychology and my girlfriend as well has a degree in psychology, among many other friends and acquaintances. In fact I’m not sure I’ve met someone who took schooling in psychology that didn’t have their primary intention being to understand their own life better.

I meant to make you an example as such to show me some evidence that you have selflessly contributed back into society (volunteering, pioneered project for something, dedicated time to educating people on some form of benevolence, etc) or shown empathy, concern or care for anyone outside of yourself, family or immediate circle. Unconditional love for your species. I suspect you have led a burdened life racked by trying to understand your world and as such have been neglected of the joy of connecting deeply outside of your immediate experience with the animals you eat and the nature you are impartial towards. Most all people, at least in developed countries (especially America) have this illusion that they are part of this world when in fact they are only living for themselves.

Taraveah

Again, Dustin, wow! You certainly make some grand assumptions! I will leave you to your assumptions, which like every other, are completely wrong and only based on your own prejudices. Good day.

Dustin Tapp

Again..an aggressive instigator bows with pseudo grace out in an effort to conceal the transparent fact they have nothing to provide any longer to the argument. I cannot tell you how often this happens when I discuss these things in life with people such as yourself. It is always following a second request from myself that someone such as yourself ‘bows out’ accusing me of assumptions but unwilling to provide any facts or evidence otherwise (When during the previous history of all exchanges you and all others are fervently invested in providing discussion and proof.)

You have nothing else to gain from this discussion because you, yourself have become the focus to suggest evidence of what you claim to be. Hypocrisy at its greatest, this culture. If you did you would have provided it immediately. As someone pursuing a masters in psychology, you undeniably know this to be true. No one invested so heavily in their opinions and pursuits such as yourself would refrain from bowing out unless you were cornered, its the oldest trick in the book.

Here you are world, again another endless example of an insensitive selfish being who can’t even lie himself through examination of himself, because the illumination reveals an empty being focused on itself.

Let us not clone you exponentially as our world is already brimming with personalities such as your own. To think you request I have love for you and the countless others like you when you have no love outside of yourself. In fact I have love for anyone who comes to me seeking education and expansion and the thousands other in the raw and vegan communities around the globe. America now has over 40 million vegs and is growing at a steep curve. I have no doubt I will live to see a shift in our consciousness and I hope you do too, you may find out what it really means to be living as a spiritual being instead of an ego. Right now you are nothing but your vessel.

Taraveah

You are absolutely right Dustin. I have nothing to gain from this disucssion because it is one sided and I have tired of it. For all of your rhetorical fluff, you have said virtually nothing and you have not addressed one thing that I have said. Arrogance? Hypocrisy? You have just illustrated yourself to be at the height of arrogance, which also makes you a hypocrite.. Assuming to know so much is a very dangerous occupation and one that is completely one-sided. I will not give you the satisfaction at this point of answering any of your questions, although I very well could. As for evidence. I am about the only commentator on this thread that has suppplied any! Obviously you don’t read it and are only interested in touting your own horn, so to speak. Not unlike any other religious zealot that I have had the displeasure of meeting. Completely myopic, narrow minded, unyielding and fanatic to their very core. So again to you I say good day and adieu. I have better things to do, like enjoy a beautiful spring day, outside with my dogs.

Dustin Tapp

Nothing better to do & interested in only touting me own horn? My girlfriend and I run a fruit based plant nursery, a fruit exchange, health coach and give lectures, publish articles, set up events. I go to events and also protests to hand out fresh fruit like cherimoya, longan, mango, pears, pineapple, plums, oranges you name it.. all on my own income and my own time in the hopes of educating the public. I assure you this has taken very little of my time. I don’t need satisfaction from you, the satisfaction was already met when you first bowed out. It was validation that I was right as you are just a formula, not an individual. Those that have something to share about themselves as evidence always do, those that don’t bow out. I grew tired of you also and that is why I directed this conversation directly at you, to define if it had any value because I assumed I was bickering with a selfish individual.

Good luck to you and your girlfriend with your business. I think your venture sounds like an excellent one. Surprised? I aim to eat a nutritious diet, so I will check out the link you provided. BTW I didn’t say that you don’t have better things to do. I said that I have better things to do, like go outside in the sunshine! That is what I did, and it was a lovely respite. I also love fruit and veggies. Can’t get enough of them!

Dustin Tapp

No cycling gear, the shopping cart theme I’m rebuilding came as cycling example and have yet to find the time to customize the layout/images/content for the shopping side of it. I should probably remove that till I get it more customized.

Taraveah

Got it. Regardless I will share the link with my sister. They love market type fresh produce and would be interested I’m sure.

Dustin Tapp

We sell all types of organic plants.. passion fruit, noni, guava, jackfruit, fig, meyer lemon, pomegranate, cherimoya bulk of what growing right now..but will have a few thousand more plants by mid spring ready to go. We’re also hosting a fruit festival this summer you can mention to her, she might be interested. Either at Tahoe, Yosemite, Santa Cruz or perhaps elsewhere, tbd

Taraveah

Wow! I wish I lived closer to organic fresh food!!! I will definitely let her know. She and her little family and friends go up to Tahoe every year, and I know she will be interested. Will that information be on your site?

Glenna Hayes

It is the fucking truth, we are not the master species, you sound like fucking Hitler. Just because we want to protect this Earth from ignorant assholes like yourself, doesn’t mean we don’t enjoy being human. I enjoy being a human being that cares and realises we cannot live on this Earth on our own, we need other beings to control this planet in ways we cannot. That means we are the weak ones, we are not in control. Anyone who ever enjoys power over others is just an angry hateful being, and I truly feel sorry for how closed minded and hateful you both are.

Taraveah

Are you gonna cry now Glenna? bahahahahahaha You are really hilarious and maybe one day you will stop starving your brain cells and actually be capable of critical thought. Ya, you are a human that hates humans, those are your own words. That would make you a pretty negative, hateful being Glenna, and like I already posted, there is even a term for your condition. The only shouting for the death of other humans are posters like you Glenna, certainly not me. You don’t even know what you are talking about. You hate because someone has an opposing view from you. I find you entertaining, nothing more. BTW: Being on top of the food chain Glenna and being able to think independently and have free agency is a FACT, and are none of the euphemisms you just threw at me. If you have a problem with that, it is only in your own delusional mind. And who is *both* Glenna? I got tired of people assuming that I am a ‘he”. (See, assumptions are always wrong – just like all of yours, that you just posted) You have a very serious inferiority complex. Might want to seek therapy for
that

Taraveah

Oh and Glenna…maybe you and Simon Tucker from the UK could get together. You could both chomp on celery and cry all day long about the injustices of humanity. I also notice that you both spell recognize the same way….with an ‘s’, which would suggest you aren’t even an American???

Simon Tucker

The only good thing you could do for humanity is commit suicide: I have never come across such a scum-sucking waste of space as you. As for being an eco-zealot: it shows what un unmitigated tosspot you are: I would happily kill every American import into the UK, in fact I would happily kill every introduced species of the last 500 years whatever its origin.
As for your own ignorant rantings: you clearly know nothing about wildlife: wolves kill dogs for fun you say – which highlights your complete ignorance of top predator interactions.
Lions will kill hyenas and vice versa, both will kill leopards and cheetahs if the opportunity arises because they eliminate competition for potential food – which is why wolves kill dogs, if your simple-minded lack of intellect can comprehend such a thing.
This is the last post I will make in response to anything you post as you are clearly of lesser intelligence than the pond weed I have spent this morning clearing out of my pond and just a complete waste of millions of years of evolution.

sick of it

And you Simon Tucker are the poster child for psychopath, sociopath, Mysanthrope. I live with the wildlife here in The Rocky Mountains you arrogant prick, and have seen first hand what they are capable of. There is no shortage of food for the wolf idiot. There is absolutely NO reason for wolves to attack dogs or livestock for that matter or leave half-eaten elk and other undulates in the same manner. There is also no reason for wolves to rip a calve from the womb of it’s mother as it is being born. These are easy kills and they definitely do kill for sport. Spend one day on your own in The Rocky Mountains, let’s see how well you make out. bahahahahahahaha What a dolt, not to mention a complete pyschopath! I think I shall copy and paste your comments, should you ever follow through on your psychopathic threats. Thank god you live in the UK, one of the most sterile and populated environments in existence. bahahahahahahaha

Donna Minion Olsen Lober

You are a pathetic lunatic, with no brain

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

That is what they are here for, anyone who things other wise is not only stupid but ignorant.. 90% of the people on here are stupid.

Anyone who actually takes the time to post about how abused the animals are and how they aren’t to be hurt or eaten… you are delusional. Please, do us all a favor and never leave the internet.

If you think the world is over populated. Oh thank God as that means you will never reproduce.

http://www.kellycomputergraphics.com Duane Kelly

I get what your saying Timothy but whats that have to do with the culling of an almost extinct species my friend. The world is getting to large for all of us to live on farms and have chickens cows and pigs we can care for and butcher when we need. I have a garden and your right it so much better but what does the person that lives in a big city high rise do? When you get the answers please post again because I would love to live the way you describe!!!!! Help us live right give us ideas!!!!

sick of it

Bison are NOT almost extinct. Where do you get your information?

Glenna Hayes

just because the numbers are high in one local region doesn’t mean they are not endangered.

sick of it

You are so completely ignorant Glenna – maybe actually more like a sheeple. I’ve supplied multiple links – where are yours? There are none! lol

Mike Fleming

Sick of it….Now I know where you got your name… Everyone that has to listen to your hate filled comments feels that way… You hide behind that name rather than use your own…Are you that afraid of the real world? At least the majority of the people here responding have intelligent responses…. Go get mommy to change your diapers and maybe you will feel better and learn to respect others…. Peace…..

sick of it

Respect what exactly Mike Fleming? All the hate filled posts against humanity? The ignorance that just drips and oozes from just about every comment on this page? Respect that? Not one person, including yourself has actually looked at the FACTS, have you Mike. Not one person has even had the integrity to address any of the FACTS for culling Bison. Nope, every single comment is based on feeling – not FACT. So what should be respected about that? The only person I do respect is Comfrey, even though I don’t agree with him in the least, at least he stood up for his convictions. I certainly don’t care if I make people uncomfortable. One thing I cannot stand is passive ignorance and this thread just oozes of it. That is what is truly pathetic.

Mike Fleming

So that is why they must be destroyed?.. You are pathetic….

Donna Mae Lober

The whole thing comes down to too damn many people!!!! What a CURSE to the earth!!

sick of it

Donna – the rantings of a true sociopath

Blomhåret

“Hurrdurr, my tastebuds are more important than anyone elses life.”
You fucking moron.
It doesn’t matter of someones corpse tastes good. It’s still wrong to murder others to eat their bodies. Or do you maybe suggest that we also let people go around murdering other humans because apperently human meat tastes like pork and our brains taste like chicken, and since the pleasure of tastebuds, in your opinion, is more important than others right to their own bodies then hey, we can’t judge people for eating humans. Besides, humans have eaten other humans since the dawn of time and also most of them also makes clothes of the skins and so on, so they use most parts of the corpses, so it must be okey right? Fuck off.

sick of it

Here Glenna…here is a post that completely backs up my claim that people like you are mentally deranged, completely delusional or at the very least completely non-sensical. thanks Blomharet! What an idiot! And I mean that in the nicest way – gag!

Kev

What a load of garbage responses…and people spouting their own agendas while missing the whole point. The article over which you are all arguing amongst yourselves pertains to one man’s valiant effort to save as many as he can of an endagered species. You all sound like a load of legislators arguing instead of offering intelligent solutions. Veganism? Rights to hunt for food? Get real..

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

I wouldn’t eat “Someone” if you are calling animals “someone” then you are as delusional as the rest of the idiots on this page.

tamajam10

I would agree with you Tim in that if we were doing our own hunting, there would be nothing morally wrong with eating the flesh of an animal. However, we now live in an age of ‘industry farming’ where animals are treated horrifically and slaughtered in the the most inhumane way. (for more info there, check out mercyforanimals(dot)com). The only reason I became vegan is solely due to the barbaric and painfully cruel way in which animals are treated in the meat, dairy, lab and ‘entertainment’ industries. That is NOT what Nature intended regardless of any argument someone may have about eating the flesh of other creatures.

Not only that, meat eaters today are basically eating death and dying. They are ingesting and absorbing the terror of the animal who endures a frightening slaughter process – in addition to having to have endured a pathetic existence prior to slaughter while being fed and/or injected with GM feed, antibiotics and often remnants of other animals. Animal ‘farming’ is a corporate-driven enterprise based entirely on greed. It is also terribly destructive to the environment on so many levels. (read here: http://www.globalissues(dot)org/article/240/beef)

If I were to eat the flesh of another creature, it would be in much the same way the indigenous people did before the colonialists arrived – who used every part of the animal and made certain to offer praise to ‘the Father’ for the ‘gift’. They revered animals and never viewed them solely as a hamburger fired up on the grill without a care in the world about just how that nicely packaged meat arrived in the deli department at their local market. Until or unless that happens, however, I’ll stick to a plant-based diet that is NOT genetically modified or contaminated with Monsanto’s roundup.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Thank you, idk call me weird but kinda like the way things were in Avatar is the way I would see things dying. Okay maybe I wouldn’t be all emotional and weird while chanting something but hey. He showed respect for the life that he was taking and that is what it seems to me we have lost in this world. Respect for life…

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Amen to that, especially the last part. No, I don’t live on a farm anymore and I don’t do much hunting but when possible which is 99% of the time. I try and avoid GMOs or anything that would have processed anything. Natural and plain, the way nature grew it is the way I like it. Sometimes, we help nature replant with gardens and breeding, but all in all I believe that if you do things right animals can have an awesome and healthy life style while providing beneficial solutions and products to humans.

Sars

The way you talk about the animals, referring to them as “meat” as opposed to a cow/ pig/bison shows that you have distanced yourself from the fact that these animals are alive and feel as much as you do. It’s not about how an animal is raised, its about the fact that animals are not here for us- we have no right to torture and murder them.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

I care why?
You scream and cry about animals… what about war? Don’t talk to me about feelings and emotions when it is obvious I have more respect for things I kill then you do for people that are alive.

Ian Henry

Do you understand that the bison are near extinction? They should be highly protected because their place in the ecosystem is incredibly important. Plus its our action (most likely) that lead to their near extinction. This isn’t a question of food.

Ecology dude

No actually they shouldn’t, we’ve destroyed most of their natural habitat and we once hunted them to the brink of extinction. These bison aren’t your deer, cows, chickens and birds – this is a species in danger because of over harvest and habitat loss. This is unacceptable conduct when dealing with a species in their situation – this man is a hero and a moratorium should be placed on the last remaining plains Bison.

Taraveah

They are NOT in danger of extinction Ecology dude and Ian Henry! You should really know a little about what you are talking instead of just relying on the sheer emotion of a topic. Buffalo are extremely resilient and increase their numbers rapidly every year! Do any of you even try to look into the facts of a matter, at all??? BTW: another little known FACT, while hunters did kill a lot of bison, it is DISEASE that nearly wiped them out!

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Bison are no where near extinction… no idea where you are getting this info but its probably from some delusional nut job like most of the other people on this page.

Jen Bannister

who cares. we need to preserve bison in this park. what is wrong with you?

http://teamzerogravity.blogspot.com/ Team Zero Gravity

If you and others want to eat bison, fine. It just need to be the ecological and historically significant herd. There are plenty of commercial bison farms. This issue they aren’t killing them for the meat. They killing them because cattle farmers don’t want the competition in the area. How about you go convince them to raise bison instead!

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Commercial farms sicken me… look into chicken farms. I don’t eat Bison that often and I think I may have only eaten it once of twice. I know there are not a lot of people that eat it…. the simple fact remains.

There are way to many people wasting their time and energy on this post. It makes no difference what I do or what I eat…. the delusional retards on this thread/post seem to think that it matters what I say or do…

Idiots, what a waste of time, you should of been one of the ones aborted. Waste of flesh, you waste of space, your empty soul screams to the world of nonsense and dismay.

rodentx2

If people (like you) think you have the right to take the life of another animal merely because the flesh “tastes worlds apart,” there will be no end to the cruelty and killing for fun, for pleasure, for enjoyment, for profit. An animal’s body is not a commodity! You have to devalue life that isn’t human in order to get away with what you want to do with it. Humans have a pathological sense of entitlement over the other animals, an easy self-serving justification for enslaving them and taking their lives.

Jeff

Humans do not need meat to sustain life or health. There is no valid reason to slaughter anything. As moral beings we have the obligation to not harm others, especially when it serves only to satisfy our desires.

Jen Bannister

yes, yes, yes.

Mike Fleming

Why would they need to kill the bison?

JSB3

Ranchers hate them…plain and simple. There is no real science backing their slaughter efforts though. Ranchers hate wild life.

Brandt Mackay

Ignorant people fear what they don’t understand

Julia Cartmel Jester

Ranchers these days are total idiots! They don’t know anything about ranching! All they know is the little bit they heard their daddy say when they were kids.If they knew anything they would understand the ecosystem and know that all the animals they want killed out is whats keeping their land and cattle healthy.They will go bust!

terryr

I can only read these responses so far without throwing up. You people need to stop giving these animals human emotion. Rarely do you hear of a rancher mistreating his animals because to do so would take away his profit. To the idiot that says ranchers hate wildlife on what do you base such a broad statement? there is so much more I could say to you tree huggers but you will never understand the true balance of nature.

Simon Tucker

terryr – whilst ranchers and their interests are behind the unnecessary slaughter of bison and wolves then it is right to draw the inference that ranchers, per se, hate wildlife. Where are the ranchers’ groups advocating for the continued protection of wolves and other top predators? Do any such groups exist to counter the rabid blood lust of so many of them.

sick of it: The nausea must come from swallowing so much government / rancher BS: you should get a better diet. The carrying capacity of Yellowstone for Bison is almost twice that of the current level – any cull is purely a sop to ranchers. The danger to elk came from the removal of wolves from Yellowstone – there was nothing to control their numbers apart from gung-ho gun-toting a-holes so prevalent in the USA, who are now hollering to kill wolves because they have made something of a comeback.
We have first hand experience of the dishonesty of government science in the UK: I have no doubt it is the same in the USA – you cannot trust “scientists” paid by the government to produce data to support their policies: the very antithesis of true science.
Your rudeness is no doubt in inverse proportion to your intelligence: a typical red-neck response to wildlife – if it moves, shoot it.

sick of it

Love the propoganda from people like you Simon and you don’t even live here. Why don’t you educate yourself before you comment? I know, because the truth doesn’t fit with your verson of reality. I have supplied links all throughout this thread and not one person will even confront it. You have no idea what you are talking about – especially when it comes to the wolves. You all think killing bison calves being born is so horrible? Then you should be sickened at what wolves do to the elk and their unborn, ripping them right out of their mother’s wombs and chomping on elk just for sport. Wolves are now attacking dogs in broad daylight in the middle of town, just for one example! Happily, 23 wolves were shot just last week because of the damage and carnage they were causing to the elk population. You say you cannot trust the “scientists” but I would bet you anything that you believe in global warming and over-population, don’t ya… and if disagreeing with the opinions on this thread is “being rude” then so be it. bahahahahahahaha

Simon Tucker

sick of it: you are so ignorant it is astonishing you know how to use a computer. Firstly, wolves kill to survive. They do not kill for pleasure as the gun-toting morons of the USA do. They have to kill to eat and they do not have domesticated animals and so they kill other wild creatures and badly managed domestic animals. It is clear that you are ignoring all of the science on the decline of the Yellowstone habitat due to the removal of wolves, upsetting the natural order of the ecosystem – so don’t accuse me of ignorance because I have read up on the subject whereas all you are doing is spouting propaganda from the killers and their apologists. Secondly, you don’t have to live in a place to know about its wildlife and the pressures on them. I have been to the USA enough times to know that your country is travelling backwards to the middle ages, but with modern weapons, faster than anywhere on the planet: you will have regressed to the level of the Taliban in no time at all – in fact many of your countrymen (probably you included) are already there.
Your education system is a disgrace in so many areas and the term “education” should be replaced with the term “red-neck ignorance brain-washing program” (program, not programme, because it is well known that many Americans cannot spell so choose the easiest option) and it produces people like you who don’t understand proper science, hence your childish digs at the science of over-population and climate change: the two internationally recognised biggest threats to our planet.

sick of it

Ah hahahahahaha I was so right about you! I can spot an Eco Religious Zealot a mile away and you are just dumb enough to believe all the lies and propoganda thrown at you. bahahhahahahahahaha. You have also proven to be an elitist, arrogant, bigot and throw terms around that you don’t even know the meaning of! This is so entertaining. Stop, really! I don’t know how much more I can take from self-agrandized, arrogant fools like yourself. I can’t stop laughing! bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha You are no better than any religious fanatic, the Taliban inlcuded moron. Completely close-minded, IGNORANT to the facts and completely delusional. BTW wolves do in FACT kill for fun. They are now dragging away domestic dogs in the middle of the day in the middle of town.I could supply links for you, but then, why? bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Stay on your side of the pond. We have enough of our own delusional idiots here, most of them in Congress. (Oh and in America we spell recognized with a Z) bahahahahahahahahahaha “proper science”. Thanks! I will be laughing about that for quite awhile. Have a lovely, “proper” day with your “proper” self, your “proper” spelling and your “proper science” hahahahahhahahaha – seriously, can’t stop laughing.

redape

There is a certain perverse logic to the ranchers wanting to kill off bison. Wolves subsist off bison. Kill the bison and one either starves the wolves or forces them to kill livestock…which justifies killing the wolves.

They tried to do the same thing with the Native peoples.

sick of it

Wolves subsist off elk, they are a much easier kill than Bison, to the point that the elk population is now in danger. BTW Native Americans slaughtered Bison by the hundreds and thousands. You people are really incredibly unbelievably biased, myopic and completely IGNORANT. http://www.nps.gov/yell/naturescience/bisonmgnt.htm

Please explain the hatred in your response to a simple question…. I hunt, fish, love the taste of bison,have two college degrees,was a medical grower before it was cool and raised a daughter that respects others…. Please remove your head from your ass before responding to others…. Obviously you are bitter because you were treated your entire life like the prick you obviously are… Have a nice day….

sick of it

I’m not sure who your response is too – but Brendan – yea that is hatred – me? Nope. Regardless you are just the epitome of respect right Mike? bahahhahahahahaha a medical grower psssttt that’s funny. Please point out the “hatred” if you can Peace

Brendan Baker

come say that in my backyard . You very tough from behind your screen… ill show you degenerate and human hating first hand

sick of it

I am sure you would Brendan, and you only go to prove my point: Only a religious fanatic or someone on the lunatic fringe would say something like that Neanderthal

Brendan Baker

you can come too…

SamKnowsIt

I admire his effort and determination, in a time when “action” too often means “sign an online petition”. (btw, “legal council” should be “legal counsel”)

Gail

Thank you for representing so many of us, Mr. Jacobs. It took courage to do the right thing for the bison.

sapereaudeprime

These scum who kill bison are criminals. Bison are in indigenous ungulates, and European cattle are invasive in that ecosystem. It is one thing to hunt a bison for food, and quite another to kill it because it threatens European cattle.

cart41

Nice job Sally Jewell!!

wanagiakicita

This man is a courageous man and did the right thing for the buffalo! Mitakuye Oyasin Comfrey Jacobs, we are all related and I am happy to be your brother! In the struggle for the buffalo!

sick of it

Gee, know your history much and the slaughter of the buffalo that took place under the direction of the Native American?

Rewriter

You don’t seem to know much history; it was not the Native Americans who brought the buffalo to the brink of extinction, it was the white men who slaughtered millions for their hides and left the meat to rot. The Native Plains Americans were sustainable users of bison resources and were impoverished when the buffalo were decimated.

sick of it

bahahahahahahaha whatever Rewriter – your name suits you well. Yes, the native Americans are the ONLY stewards of the earth, right?

sick of it

Kind of like this Rewriter? “The Blackfeet Indians called the buffalo jumps “pishkun”, which loosely translates as “deep blood kettle”. Hunters herded the bison and drove them over the cliff, breaking their legs and rendering them immobile. This type of hunting was a communal event which occurred as early as 12,000 years ago and lasted until at least 1500 CE, around the time of the introduction of horses.The Indians believed that if any buffalo escaped these killings then the rest of the buffalos would learn to avoid humans, which would make hunting even harder.[1]” So just kill them all!

Shaun Phillips

Most of these bison jumps were the primary source of meat, hides, and horn (for tools and ceremonial use) for the community for the year. The majority of the meat was cured to last months. The products from the bison were also the primary trade items the Plains tribes had to trade with surrounding groups (Puebloan groups in the SW, Woodland/Mississippian culture in the Midwest and SE) for other necessities (corn, shells, etc). The numbers that were killed in these activities is miniscule compared to what Euro-Americans slaughtered as the size of a heard that could be effectively run off a jump was much smaller than what could be killed with rifles. Btw, I do love animals; they’re delicious.

sick of it

And your point exactly Shaun Phillips? My point being that the Native American also killed Bison in horrific ways….and en masse…as a response to the comments regarding the Native American’s treatment of Bison. What is the difference of running them over a cliff where they are incapacitated but still alive and shooting with a bullet? A bullet is far more humane and yet it is consistently demonized.

Shaun Phillips

I’m not saying it was any more or less horrific. I’m just saying the scale at which the two could be done and the purposes for which they were done were drastically different. In fact, once firearms were introduced, many of the plains tribes vastly over-killed bison during their annual hunts as well. And yes, I’m aware that disease contributed to the decline (as did drought). However, I’m not sure any one of the individual items was more responsible than the others, but together (disease, over-hunting, drought, etc), they did nearly wipe out the bison.

Margaret

DOI is proven wrong again! This is not anything new to horse advocates. BLM which is part of DOI and NPS targets animals that compete with cows.

BLM even hired NAS to do a two year study on them and the study came back blasting BLM.

I don’t know how we shut this agency down but it sure seems like we all need to unite and file lawsuits till we bury our government.

Ben Franklin

The BLM is supposed to lease the lands for a real profit or at least when they started instead of taxes. But hey when the campaign contributors get whom they want it goes for free mostly for minerals and mining especially oil. The new BOEM which replaced the MMS is no different robbing the public coffers too.

Margaret

Cattle ranchers pay $1.35 per cow/calf combination. Not sure how any of this makes an equal profit. It’s been running at a deficit forever now.

Judi McFarland

Comfrey Jacobs is a hero in my opinion…the so called “learned” people who make the decision to slaughter these beautiful animals are clearly not thinking ahead into the future…Since when did the needs of people outweigh protecting our disappearing wildlife? And furthermore, why is Comfrey Jacobs not being given the opportunity to be judged by a jury of his peers (like any common murderer or thief is given)? Because the “powers that be” know that if given this opportunity, he will be named the hero he is (at least he would be if I were on said jury).

Snapp

Learn the law, if you’re going to comment on it.
A) It’s an impartial jury, not a jury of his peers. Just because the author is misinformed, doesn’t mean you need to be as well.
B) He was offered a plea bargain, which he turned down, and is now awaiting further legal council.
C) He would have to be tried based off of his crimes, which he fully admits that he committed. Agree or disagree with what he did, he broke the law, and must be tried on that alone. If you go onto a Jury, to name a criminal a hero, then you are perverting the legal system.

sick of it

Thank you finally Snapp for a dose of common sense, which does not PREVAIL with this group

tamajam10

Look up ‘jury nullification’. When people are prosecuted for breaking laws that are unjust in the eyes of ‘The People’, a jury has the right to have their voice heard – though most are not aware of that fact.

….and in reading the other comments I can see I am not alone! Let’s stand together on this and bring about real change.

Sue Stack

Comfrey Jacobs is not only a hero but a very special spirit that I wish more people possessed. I want to give Comfrey the biggest of hugs and say “Thank You” from all of us that treasure our wildlife.

Portlandique

Who said one person can’t make a difference?
In the age of the internet – ANYONE can!
Comfrey Jacobs – THANK YOU!!

Nancy

I am starting to hate the human race. We think we have the right to kill everything. If it were not for people like this man I would have no hope at all. I cannot thank him enough. I hope he knows how much it meant to me. he gives me hope to go on. I just cant stand what we are doing. I wish I could help him do what he is doing. It would make me feel like I was dong something good for the world.

Julia Cartmel Jester

I agree Nancy!

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

I hate the human race because everyone has their own opinion and think that is the right way to do things and anyone doing it different is wrong..

Sorry to say Nancy, but fuck you and your opinion I am different and will live accordingly. Enjoy your boring life.

I am glad someone finally stood up to the idiots.They will do it again next year. I can’t stand it when they kill unborn babies.This baby was almost ready to be born and they killed his mom by gutting her and letting this baby fall from her body. How damn cruel and heartless can anyone get? These SOB’S will burn in hell for crap like this!!

michael

.. fall from her body still alive and left to die by itself in the cold

Herbert Napp

What do you think of abortion?

sick of it

Nothing will happen to anyone that kills animals. Only in your special and hate filled world Julia

Kathy Jones

One man can and has made a difference in the land where buffalo roam. Kudos to you Comfrey Jacobs, for having the courage and will to stand up to protect them. You are a hero, a gentleman, and I wish we had a billion more of you in the world. God bless you!

chrisitne

So well done this guy! I am so please that people stood up. This slaughter was a totale SHAME on the humans that allowed it! This animal is precious as are all animals to the ECO system. My heart is with you, SO WELL DONE!…..

Dianne Morris

Has anyone seen this video in which the overpopulation of buffalo were relocated to to a native reservation? Couldn’t this be done instead of sending this almost speciest to slaughter? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AW0e4sDROE

sick of it

If you knew anything at all, then you would know that they still do that. It is just one method of Bison management in Yellowstone.

sick of it

And because none of you seem to be able to research an issue outside of the propoganda being spewed by the religious eco zealots, here is an exact excerpt regarding one part of bison managment and the tribes: “Under the IBMP, treaty harvests, the provision of bison meat to American Indian Tribes for consumption, and the restoration of bison to tribal lands to improve their cultural, economic, nutritional, and social well-being are primary options for culling some bison due to the way bison are interwoven into the cultures of tribes. The National Park Service has been working to transfer some Yellowstone bison directly to tribes for immediate slaughter, and is working with the InterTribal Buffalo Council and federal and state animal health officials to develop protocols and facilities for transferring brucellosis-free bison to tribal lands and/or establishing quarantine facilities and terminal pastures on tribal lands in accordance with applicable state, federal, and tribal codes.”

Mrs.Hamilton Barrow Willis

This is totally disgusting. That photo of the disgarded unborn buffalo calf shows just how wasteful and cruel government employees are. That calf is public property as was his mother. Those people are OUR employees being paid with OUR tax dollars. They are killing OUR buffalo without our agreement or permission. THIS needs to stop..

IF and I say IF buffalo need to be culled, only because there too many of them, they should NOT be killed just before calving season– THIS is absolutely the WRONG time of the year to do this.

Interfering with a government operation?…as if that is unethical? Come on people…let’s finally understand that we have a very, very corrupt entity..that continues to live off of us…perform unethical, evil operations…on and on. As a Libertarian…I cannot believe people still buy into govt. operations as if they are the last word. Govt. is obsolete…as is war…as is meat eating, which is ultimately killing us off….

Teruby

What is going on in America? Are we becoming so cruel and sadistic that we have to kill everything that is innocent and has a right to live – horses, buffalo, wolves etc.. I am so outraged that these mass killings are going on. Mr. Jacobs, you are a hero and deserve recognition for doing the right thing. Many people are on your side.

sick of it

BAhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha What is going on in America is what has been going on in the North American Continent since the beginning of time. Seriously? Only today we are a lot more humane in our treatment of animals: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_jump

Teruby

Jeez, calm down. The buffalo were killed in the millions almost to extinction by the settlers in the 1800’s which by the way affected the native Americans spiritually, mentally, physically…their food and life was taken by the settlers. You would think in modern society we have evolved but apparently not since we continue to reduce wildlife, all in the name of greed, corruption, ranchers, gun groups, etc…Also, today there is internet, news ,social media so people are more aware of what is going on. Just the total disregard for life for stupid reasons is a disgrace.

sick of it

hmmm. have to wonder if your comments would apply to abortion as well? I have supplied information – none of you even have the integrity to confront it. That is appalling and scary, and very telling.

sick of it

And because you didn’t read the link I supplied, which is just one of many, many, many here is an excerpt: “The Blackfeet Indians called the buffalo jumps “pishkun”, which loosely translates as “deep blood kettle”. Hunters herded the bison and drove them over the cliff, breaking their legs and rendering them immobile. This type of hunting was a communal event which occurred as early as 12,000 years ago and lasted until at least 1500 CE, around the time of the introduction of horses.The Indians believed that if any buffalo escaped these killings then the rest of the buffalos would learn to avoid humans, which would make hunting even harder.[1]” So just kill them all! Don’t think there were greedy ranchers or “gun groups” (LMAO) back then.

Laura McGill

Why must the Human Race destroy everything until there’s no more? When the Bison become extinct, will they still be talking about how good they used to taste?. Some thing I remember my own Mother saying “It takes a sick bird to destroy it’s own nest.” It’s not like the gluten’s actually hunt, they corral them in, where there is no challenge or a real hunt. It’s not just the Bison, but Elephants, Lions, even Giraffes, etc. that millionaires, like Donald Trump’s son had them corralled in to kill or moronic Sarah Palin, who had the Caribou fenced in, with no way to escape, so she can shoot them for her equally moronic audience. They just kill for the pleasure.

sick of it

Seriously? You people are completely out of control or at the very least CLUELESS. Bison are not in danger of extinction. You have no idea what you are talking about, none whatsoever.

Brendan Baker

If i could , I would spit in your face . YOU sir , represent all that disgusts about the human race .Ignorant ,cruel and so ready to justify the actions of men that have led us to the despicable state we now find ourselves in.Get back under your rock and shut your mouth , there is revolution happening , those who feel it ,know it.

sick of it

oh gawd…..Brendan Baker, I am shaking in my boots

Brendan Baker

you might be eloquent -that however,does not change the fact that you’re an idiot….. and as i said before , it is VERY clear which kind of people represent the problem on this planet ….get back under your rock

Shaun Phillips

While they’re not in danger of global extinction, they are extinct from much of their original range. Btw, I agree he should be punished as he knowingly broke the law, but that’s the whole point of civil disobedience.

sick of it

Well thank you for that acknowledgement at least Shaun Phillips – but to the shock and maybe horror of many, unlike you, I don’t think Comfrey should be punished. He has a right to stand up for his convictions and harmed no one in the process. I find it extremely ironic that the same posters lauding Comfrey for his actions are calling for the death and even “skinning” of the park officials who are in fact responsible for wildlife management. It’s sooo easy to be an “armchair quarterback” after all.

Shaun Phillips

Sorry I misunderstood your thoughts on whether he should be tried. My bad. While I agree he has a right to stand up for his convictions, if those convictions violate laws (no matter how awful they are), he’s going to be arrested/tried. That’s the whole point ot civil disobedience, pointing out bad laws/practices regardless of the consequences. Unfortunately, those are the facts whether we like/agree with them or not. I do hope the judge is lenient and lets him off with some community service or throws the whole case out.

sick of it

Yes, you definitely have a point. At least you are able to carry on a civilized conversation! That’s a refreshing relief for threads like this one! I need to remind myself, next time I find myself sick at home to stay away from these controversial articles! haha

Shaun Phillips

Haha. The funny part is I came to this article not expecting any controversy or, if there was any, I figured it’d be from the “pro-slaughter” group. Didn’t expect it to be a battle from the left (vegetarian/vegan vs omnivores). Btw, speaking as an archaeologist, homo sapiens has never been vegan. You have to go back a couple of million years to find our last vegan ancestor.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

When they are gone I will laugh and say you fools, if they were used for food they would have been preserved.

Lions are now used for food (Check it in Florida) and their population is growing.

Alex Brown

Seems the US FWS/NPS and other agencies in Idaho, Wyoming and Montana are just puppets of the ranching lobby. Studies proved far more cattle die of diseases and illnesses (60%) than from coyotes/wolves (2.9%) yet the propaganda from ranch lobby would have you believe that wolves are running amok destroying the industry. It’s about time we stop permitting grazing on public lands.

http://morethanhosting.us Timothy Bohrer

Hey look someone who is sane.

Linda Franklin

Thank you, Comfrey Jacobs. You are so brave, so good.

Standing Deer

NO ONE in YELLOW STONE gives a shit. They will and have done this for years. The whole idea of bringing back the wolves was to stop this and now they kill the wolves too. WILL not ever visit there again.

sick of it

Yea, they are just a bunch of yahoos that like to kill stuff LMAO — please stay out of Yellowstone, if you have ever even really been there. LOL

natasha

This man is amazing. Who ever made this bison slauther rule I hope you get hit by a bus

cole3244

yesssssssssss!!!!!!

sick of it

Considering the source, it is no surprise that the comments on this article are overly emotional, devoid of any fact – almost to the point of hysteria, and based on nothing except HUMAN emotion of which these animals DO NOT share, regardless of how YOU FEEL. Bison are magnificent animals, however, they are also FOOD and they are not in danger of extinction. In fact they are a healthier alternative to eating cows. None of you bleeding hearts could last one minute on a ranch or in the wilderness. Good grief, get over youselves already and stop trying to impose your beliefs (Kathryn Erskine) et al., on everyone else. You people are also completely laughable – do any of you know what a primary food source was in America for the Native American’s and how many of them were killed – all at once no less – driven over cliffs by the thousands? LOL what a bunch of morons. BTW – this hero of yours, is admirable for standing up for his convictions – but his actions will hardly detour Bison management in Yellowstone.

oprichniki

He is a national hero. Scum bags as Obama, Vilsack, and Jewell should be tried and executed for crimes against humanity. Where is the Liberal/Progressive and Right To Life outcry?

Franklin

Study Erwin Rommel School of Law on You Tube, love to give him some legal procedural strategies

WoofG

I really wish I could thank him in person, I spent most of my childhood near Yellowstone and have always felt very dearly about it, if I was still in the area I would have stayed with him without hesitation.

Tranquility7

I truly hate the name calling and put downs by some trolling here. No empathy, no compassion there for anyone else’s views but their own. This was an unnecessary slaughter, and I wonder who all is deeply behind it, but I could venture a guess or two. But trolls, here .. do you think all your screaming, yelling, name calling, calling people stupid, bullying people because you think you’re smarter is going to change anything? Not likely. Why would anyone want to believe you? I wouldn’t. To Comfrey Jacobs, thank you for trying to do the right thing. To ‘sick of it’ — I’m sick of you.

sick of it

Stay tranquil and ingnorant Tranquility 7 and please stay out of Yellowstone. Afterall, ignorance is bliss! BTW just because there is an opposing opinion – (thank god!) doesn’t make it “trolling” If you really want to learn something read this: (but I bet you won’t) http://www.nps.gov/yell/naturescience/bisonmgnt.htm

Jess

Good man! We need more people like this in the world

Nancy

If there is room for the bison to thrive and not be endangered, why are we doing this? Duh…Cattleman’s Association, anyone? And, inept along with buyer take all government policies? Our government is so controlled by the corporations and big money groups. The cattleman’s association is so powerful that the mustangs and the bison are being eliminated because of their greed to lease and control the free ranges. It always comes down to the almighty dollar, someone’s sense of entitlement and what they can buy with it. One way to cause a country or a culture to loose it’s sense of identity is to eliminate it’s icons. We’ll be much easier to manage as a population, if we give up our symbols that represent freedom for our country.

michael

why do we even bother with government law anymore? it’s all bullshit. people have woken up now….

Patrice

i am so sad to see this,, he is a very brave good man,, the saddest part ever is if he is found guilty he wont be able to enter the park,, than who will protect them??please give all yoru support to this and any wildlife friend who is battling with these issues,,like it says go to IBMP…

liza

Thank you Mr. Jacobs.

Michelangelo Cappricio

something typical when the top predator step in who thinks everything is from them and only them blind by greed and hate all these governments seed this greed around and all of us to blind and walk like sheep thinking only about money humans are insane this man is a super hero but get in jail because the government doesn’t give a fuck about anyone of us they only see dollars and if they do something good its simple not because they care but to become in good day light and why do we believe history books while u may not look in the real files because there u will find that the governments even do experiments to kill human and see how quick they die I know its hard to believe that happens but to open your eyes why would they spend billions while people suffering simple because they not care I know some will not like what I said and not agree what is fine but this man should get a medal instead of put in jail law doesn’t exist at all simple I show here why richy rich stealing 600 dollar food now judge give him a warning same judge same thing but now a poor man from the street done it he goes to jail same law another system? law doesn’t exist its made by the rich to protect themselves its time we chance in everything we should chance how we be against to others and also how we use nature we all should stand up against the governments we don’t need hate and be sheep who believe the governments be there for us its simple not reality

This is an incredibly crazy site. Maybe you all should listen to Cory Booker teach you about climate change. He’s so legit right!? Thinkpropaganda.org.

Me, Dammit!

I would like to know why exactly he cannot demand trial by a jury of his peers?

Gamingsince75

Because they wouldn’t find him guilty honestly.

PithHelmut

Comfrey Jacobs is a beautiful human being. What a stupid system we’ve got. We kill these wild animals in the first place but to do nothing with the meat! And then we cage and confine other animals for our food. Our species truly needs an upgrade.

Brad G.

I wish that I had the resolve that this man has shown. If I could, these old bones would have been there with him, as he is right in what he is doing. You rock Pal and don,t let anyone tell you different. You have done what most of us should have done..

sick of it

What is up with Comfrey’s name? Is it Comfrey Jacobs, Comfrey James or Comfrey Root? His name changes in every article that I read….

Annish

WHY are they so hot to kill the buffalo?? May they be reincarnated at mosquitos in their own toxic backyards!

Donna

I think that what this boils down to is a strong individual standing up against what he, and obviously many others, feels is wrong. Now we could argue that that makes him a criminal but when governments are acting immorally or illegally or against the wishes of the people it serves, as is often the case, should these individuals be vilified or hailed as heroes? I know where I stand on this issue. Whistleblowers and activists jeopardize their own comfort and safety, which is way more than some people ( even if they HAVE pulled a few links off Wikipedia ) might be prepared to do.
Thank you to this man and all activists and tree-huggers ( as they are disparagingly called, like it’s a silly thing to love trees ) thank you very very very much. It restores my faith in humanity that someone still puts his heart where his mouth is. Whatever mistakes made in the past cannot be used as an excuse to make them again so that ‘oh but the Indians did this before, and the colonists didn’t or vice versus’ is irrelevant.
However rude and irritating you are , mr sick of it ( what, everything? ) surely you don’t think it’s ok to be stupid or cruel or wantonly destructive just because men or animals do it or did it or will do it in the future somewhere else?

sick of it

Of course not Donna, and the park officials also do not condone wanton destruction of wildlife, no matter how much people on this site want to demonize them, even calling for their death. But like every good poster on this site they make their own assumptions and jump to their own conclusions based on feelings and nothing more. I am a conservationist and sometimes conservation isn’t pretty. I prefer to be a little more open-minded and look at all sides involved before declaring open hostility and hatred for my own species and anyone that eats meat etc. And yes, I agree with you that dredging up the past is completely irrelevant to wildlife management today and I am extremely tired of it. And Donna, tree huggers call themselves tree huggers and of course there is nothing silly about loving trees, or nature, or wildlife – but ANYTHING taken to the extreme becomes the “lunatic fringe” especially when it is based only on emotion and NOTHING else. Here is my other link Donna, and it isn’t Wikipedia: http://www.nps.gov/yell/naturescience/bisonmgnt.htm If you bother to read it, you will see that there are reasons and many methods for culling Buffalo. You may not agree with those reasons, but there are reasons, which does not make this a cruel or wanton act of destruction like everyone would like to believe (for some perverse reason). I for one, would like to see the expansion of the range of the buffalo; however, that would increase their being hunted as well.

Donna

Hi Taraveah
Thanks for the links. I did check them out and living in South Africa with it’s wealth of wildlife ( sadly being VERY wantonly destroyed) I do understand the concept of culling and why it is often necessary. What I took from this article and from others that I have read is that some parks and the wildlife contained within them are possibly being mismanaged with certain animals being de-listed and the science not always being listened to. In this case perhaps the park was well within it’s rights to cull, BUT what this guy has done has turned media attention to what is going on and a positive of this is that people will question. And questions are good. The acts of cruelty etc I referred to was in response to an example that fellow was banging on about.
I don’t regard myself as the ‘lunatic fringe’ although they do seem to have a lot of passion, which is grand but I do feel very strongly that the need for better nature conservation calls for people to make it news. This guy has, and I applaud him. As we know, much is being mismanaged in our world.

Taraveah

Hi Donna,
Thank you for your thoughtful insight and yes, i agree with you that much is mismanaged in our world and any good that can be done, should be done. I am not familiar with the issues of wildlife in South Africa, only that I hear that poaching is a terrible (?) problem. The issue that I take is when people start calling for the death of people like the park officials because they don’t agree with their management practices. I think that much more is accomplished through civil discourse and a genuine attempt to understand all points of view, and I appreciate yours. Best to you in South Africa And yes, questions are good!

Donna

Also, I forgot to add, shipping live animals to slaughter long distances away can be and often is extremely distressing. Traditions and cultures should be respected where possible in so long as they do not involve unnecessary suffering. So that I wondered about as well.

discreet22

just goes to show you what one person’s courage and conviction to do right can do. He is a hero and an inspiration to us all.

sick of it wrong

now sick of it i read what u have posted and said when is it enough here we already become again thinking we may tell when so there to manny lets kill them ? do you also kill all humans because there to manny too ? everyone has it own point of see things and i see it we think we must control nature because we are god eh sorry can’t agree whit you and if you really care about nature sick of it you also know humans think they own the world but aswell u not have to agree whit me

sick of it

good gawd sick of it wrong – can you even put a sentence together? When you can actually write a sentence in form – I might actually be able to read it. WOW!

tamajam10

“Never underestimate the power of a small group of committed people to change the world. In fat, it is the only thing that ever has.” – Margaret Mead. In this case it was one person with one mission who successfully endeavored to make a positive change….and he succeeded at ‘being the change’. Incredibly inspiring.

SHARON

is there no place SACRED LEFT!!! GOD BLESS THE BEASTS AND CHILDREN!!!

sick of it

Huh, that’s really funny Sharon. A Bison wouldn’t think twice about trampling you to death if you got to close to it (it happens almost every year) and a wolf wouldn’t think twice about ripping out your throat or hauling off with your dog or child if it was hungry enough.

Eddie Cheek

So we should just kill every living thing that posses a threat to any human that wants to wander anywhere on earth? Should we kill every alligator because some dumb-ass thinks it would be funny to stick his head in it’s mouth? Shouldn’t we just go ahead and kill all of the elk, the moose, the deer, the rabbits, the mice, the birds, and pave over the entire world because you just can’t stand the fact that nature needs balance, and that balance requires predators, herbivores, and scavengers. Our national parks aren’t here so that livestock farmers have a place to feed their cattle. They belong to the wilderness, and the balance of nature should be allowed to control itself. The absolute most guaranteed way to fail, is for man to think he has the power to dominate, and control it. We have fucked it up for far too long. It is time to let it heal itself.

Taraveah

Oh yea Eddie, because that is what anyone said??? Hyperbole much? LOL

Eddie Cheek

Did you even bother to look at the horrifically ignorant statement that you made? You are the one that is trying to get everything killed because you have some major terror of being trampled by a bison. There have been 2 reported attacks by wolves in the past 200 years. There are more attacks from squirrels, or by opossums than wolves. Of course your ignorance lets you be convinced that we should just kill anything that could remotely be a danger to us. Why don’t we just put the really stupid people inside some sort of protective bubble, instead of having to kill all of the animals that have to share the planet with them?

Donna Mae Lober

I am sick of the livestock industry thinking they control the world!!

Hope Tufly

“interfering with a government operation” ????? Stand up and QUESTION AUTHORITY people! Wish more had the balls to do what he did.

Meatlover

What a horrid thing to happen. This man should be maxed sentenced for stalling meat in which I very much love to eat

Marja Kokkonen

Meatlover, what a disgusting human crap you are. Go and hunt your meat as a man and so come and tell you love to eat it.

sick of it

what, you think he doesn’t already do that? Hunters are some of the most responsible conservationists on the face of the planet. They don’t have any delusions of where their food comes from and they don’t have any delusions that animals are the same as humans – like you Marja. And they will all be able to survive quite well if they needed to in the wild – unlike you Marja.

MaryAlice Muhleisen

Animals are not the same as humans. Animals CAN survive in the wild, unlike those “hunters” who will be up S creek without a paddle when their ammo runs out.

unity100

Freaking fucks, despicable assholes, unbridled sociopaths.

This, was brought on ONLY by the pressure of CATTLE industry interests in that state. Nothing more. for a few more dollars, they dont hesitate from eradicating an ENTIRE wild species.

These people have names and addresses. Until society starts to call these people out on what they are doing, these people will continue doing such things.

sick of it

bahahahahahaha and with your emotional rant and use of language, you call yourself civilized? Oh the irony. bahahahahahahahaha unity100

unity100

Let me see ….. I didnt bribe some public official to have him lead off protected, publicly owned animals to slaughter so i can profit.

Neither im the official who took the bribe behind the doors.

Or the fucks who had aided this process.

I think im pretty civilized.

sick of it

Oh yes, I can see that very well unity100. You don’t even have ANY of the facts, but of course, you aren’t interested in those pesky little things are you? bahahahaha

MarcSFried

Anyone doing what these individua, govt or otherwise, did , specifically killing these animals should be hunted down and killed – shot and skinned alive… You don’t see btw any of the anti abortionists or politicians saying anything about this and that the govt sanctions and pays for this, do you… ( relating to the image of the bison calf). What a bunch of hypocritical religious tarts…
MSF

sick of it

Wow. just wow MarcSFried – funny that you can’t see beyond your own nose that you are in fact the Religious Zealot. You probably think it was a lovely idea to reintroduce the wolf into the ecosystem as well, don’t you and yet the wolf is responsible for far more carnage and death than culling the Bison. Get off your emotional rant and actually do some research – if you are capable of that – however, I really doubt it.

Eddie Cheek

You are just mad that it was a wolf that is doing what it was designed to do, instead of some dumb ass with a rifle killing the wrong elements of nature. It is scientifically proven that the wolf reinstatement has had a very positive effect on all of the ecosystem. It is the politicians who think of the cash they are missing out on when a wolf keeps the herbivore population in check. The amount of cattle that are lost is less than 1% of what are lost to disease, and what are just lost because they wandered away.

Eddie Cheek

BTW Hayseed, there have only been 2 reported attacks on humans in the last 100 years.

ziggiepop

Livestock boards and associations in every state think they are kings of the universe and we should all bow in homage to them. I am sick of their arrogance and contrived pr talking points created by ALEC and their evil twin Farm Bureaus. The incest between politics and livestock industry are notorious, and quite frankly, these guys are the original US bullies.

All the domestic cloven-hooved livestock needs to get off our public land, they have claimed as their own that they render almost unusable, with their over feeding on the cheap off the backs of taxpayers.

The bison, the wolves, the coyote, the big cats and the wild horses have all been cheated of their rightful lands, and their lives because of these pricks.

Ana Morris

Comfrey I am in love with you. Marry me!! I am so proud of you and if I can help, shout.

Messenger

Stop the killing. Stop the false reporting PROPAGANDA. The article makes it sound like this one person (he’s a Buffalo Field Campaign volunteer) is what stopped the slaughter. In reality, the slaughter stopped when a predetermined 600 quota was reached by the IBMP the day after his arrest.

“These tribal entities, for the first time ever, have bought into the Montana livestock industry… actively working with Yellowstone National Park to slaughter buffalo… Confederated Salish and Kootenai Tribes (CSKT)… slaughterhouse on the Flathead Indian Reservation… our job is to share the buffalo’s story with the world and when people begin to act irresponsibly or disrespectfully toward the buffalo… we’ve found it necessary to express our strong opposition to the tribal slaughter agreements… By participating in such activities the tribes are actively assisting with the destruction of the Yellowstone herds and providing cover to… livestock industry…”

They won’t read it Messenger, this group of fanatics is not interested in anything factual. And you are so exactly right. Comfrey did not stop anything.

CONSERVATIONIST

Unless there’s a drought, you should never keep the maximum amount of animals in a pasture, especially if you have no where to move them to allow the grass to recover…which with free roam would be the case in this situation…(unless you want a dust bowl). You make it sound like they are slaughtering the entire herd! Do you honestly think they would allow that!!!!? It’s called herd management…it is the only way to keep the animals that are there in check, and healthy. You probably forgot to mention that the mother that was “slaughtered” was on her last leg, with no teeth left…I’m sure they aren’t killing the cream of the crop. It’s articles like this that ruin the credibility of people who really are trying to help and preserve the wildlife of this nation. And reality check, unless you want to doze your condo to let them take the land back completely, the population must be controlled. HERO INDEED…STUPID PEOPLE INDEED…

Taraveah

Thank you for some reasoned comments Conservationist and Marge on this thread that is filled with lunatics!

CONSERVATIONIST

Sorry, I meant what if there were a drought…

djlangel

Thank you to this awesome brave human to stand and protect the beautiful Buffalo! Have wanted to do this myself many times, I love the Buffalo, Yellowstone and this brave Hero for his actions of risking his safety, freedom and life for what is right.

“More than 50 percent of the bison in YNP test positive for brucellosis. A positive test indicates that animals have been exposed and are most likely infected. The concern is that when these bison leave YNP, they may transmit brucellosis to cattle in the surrounding States. All three States surrounding YNP are officially free of brucellosis.”

Margaret Scown

Well done Mr. Jacobs – thousands around the world applaud you – you certainly have raised awareness. <3

Ellen mcConnell

He is a HERO to me.Brave & courageous. The BLM & agencies that believe it is ok to kill so many animals are inhumane.

IBCat1

Would love to see this on the National News! Well Done!! Thank you, Comfrey Jacobs! I hope peeps stand up and help in your defense! Hope someone will stand up for our wolves, cougars, and bears too! End trapping, aerial hunts, and poisoning and let our wildlife and lands LIVE! This vid was shot in Yellowstone and reveals the ecological process behind how reintroducing wolves changed the landscape for the better . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q

Eddie Cheek

Awesome post IBCat1!

Cat

The killing of these animals is unnatural. They are trying to survive the only way they are allowed to by humanity. We take up all the land that isn’t federally protected & then go to the sanctuary slaughtering them. This man should NOT be arrested, better yet elected!!!!!!

Jessica Hougardy

maybe a solution to this problem is to grant some money to farmers and
ranchers to put up fences tall enough to keep the bison out. I
understand why ranchers and farmers are so against having free roaming
bison because they eat all the grass and there is nothing left for their
livestock to eat. If their fences were tall and strong enough this
wouldn’t be an issue and the bison wouldn’t need to be slaughtered (not
that this was absolutely necessary in the first place). We need to learn
how to live with our environment instead of destroying it. This guy did
a great thing, but maybe we should look for a solution that is
beneficial to everyone so that chaining yourself to a barrel of cement
doesn’t have to become an annual thing.

Mary Brockman

how dare these so called government people , more like renegades gone wild , say they are acting on our behalf. They are insane or at least behaving insanely. Kudos and support to Comfry Jacobs. What a lovely name “Comfrey”. I see trees cut by city workers knowing they have a ‘special friend’ who needs the wood for carving. We see all sorts of destruction for so form of graft. What good are government or governmnet officials when all we see from them is graft.

Paul Mendoza

There are ranchers that should be approached as they may accept parts of this herd. There are
private buffalo herds in Connecticut and other states throughout America.

TakodasDad

This animal should be on the Endangered Species List. With less than 4200 or so why aren’t they? I am FED up with the FED’S and their so called management practices. The BLM, USFWS, USFS, and NPS all seem to think the answer is to KILL THE ANIMALS rather than make ranchers learn to co-exist. They even have their own HIT SQUAD call Wildlife Services. They murder millions of animals each year in the name of conservation. If only there were enough of us to go to Palomino Valley and release wild horses, or stand arm in arm to stop hunters from slaughtering wolves. Just let the FED’S shoot one of us and see what hell there is to pay! Those animals belong to the American People. They don’t belong to our Native Brothers who want to carry on ‘traditions’. It used to be tradition to shoot Indians and own slaves but we have come a long way and learned that the old ways are not necessarily the best way. We have to let some traditions die rather than animals. We’ve destroyed entirely too many already. Why…because of cattle. They fear wolves will eat one or two a year, or a horse will take a mouthful of grass away, or the bison will infect their herds. All of which is nonsense. They belong on the public lands, the cattle are the aliens. Less than 2% of the beef consumed in this country is grazed on public land yet there are enough of them pounding the ground into a concrete state that if they were removed today it would take over 10 years for the range to recover. Mother Nature was doing quite well before the white man decided he had to micro-manage the wildlife. I’m ashamed our Native Brothers think it necessary to destroy the last remaining remnants of what was once their family’s life source. Their ancestors didn’t over hunt or waste a life. What has become of humanity? Is no one HUMANE anymore?

cascadian12

What a beautiful heartfelt post! I’m saving it for posterity and perhaps to borrow a phrase or two when I send in my comments to the federal agencies. I completely agree with you that no matter what the wildlife issue is, the answer is always the same: Kill them. And like you, I am fed up with the Feds and their management practices, and with state wildlife agencies as well. It seems none of them have ever learned what stewardship means. Thank you and blessings to you.

Tess Maree

Rae McRae

There was never a moral reason to slighter them to extinctions, doing this for profit is a immoral thing to do, greed kills, and this is one of many, many things that greed destroys. Greed destroys farmland, bodied waters and everything that exists.

Thank you very much, Mr. Comfrey Jacobs. Bless you. Yes, yes, yes, thank you!!!!!!!! Many Blessings. Super cool what you did, but it reaches deeper, beyond verbal salutations. What you did is amazing. xo

Mary

Who is in charge of all of this killing in Yellowstone Park? They should be the ones arrested and charged with the murder of our beautiful wildlife. These animals belong to all of America and this should be their safe place. None of this should have happened especially in a place like Yellowstone Park, I hope the young man who did all he could to save the Bison should be commended and not fined or jailed, we are all behind him.

pinche pendejo

kill the jews

ccaffrey

I’d like for some of you to take a deep breath and consider the way you are addressing each other. The vitriol is really not in the spirit of what this article is about, nor the intentional and peaceful way in which this man took action. You are really violating the dignity of his actions with your language, tearing the emotional flesh off of each other. Think of this. There may be someone who visits this article, not previously moved to “the cause”, but impressed by this individual’s response. They read further through the comments…see the way you are tearing at each other, and that moment of change is lost, as well as the power of this one person’s actions. We can and must do better than this!

Eddie Cheek

We aren’t tearing at each other. We are coming together with rage and indignation at the horrors that other so-called-humans are committing to our homes and to the world around us. These crimes will never stop without action. This man took action and risked the violent actions that are now being committed against him. We need to join together and let the criminals know that there will be actions against them if they continue to harm the earth and its inhabitants.

Joshua Rosenburg

Yes, you got it! Yes! Imissed your comment before when I wrote my own but yours is very well put, that’s how I was feeling.

“tearing the emotional flesh off of each other.”

Perfectly put. We need to create our own safe places in all of the different communities that are out there. I can’t even begin to imagine them all, the best thing I can suggest is anyone who reads this and cares spreads the message to their friends. Positive peer-pressure.

TreeHugger_hon

If the ranchers can’t convert them to CATTLE, they want them DEAD. As easy as that. And Yellowstone National Park is considered to be some sort of GAME BREEDING FARM by surrounding hunters anyway, only there to supply easy targets for them. ALL of wildlife and nature is only there for consumption and exploitation in their eyes and minds. To save and protect a species for that SPECIES’ sake? Or for balanced, natural ecosystems? Or simply out of responsibility for our environment? That’s not part of THEIR world. The only way to STOP them, to reign in their irresponsible, lethal greed, are strong laws and regulations – and those will NOT come from politicians living in the same kind of twisted parallel world they have built in their minds!

rex tyler DTM

A hero the rest the state the whoever thoughtless

Jazzi Blonde

Just when you think your only one person, what can you do ? This man proved what “just one person can do” I thank you from the bottom of my heart. And it makes me want to be one of those “just one person, people”

Joshua Rosenburg

Dear commenters,

It is always great to see some one showing love to our friends amongst us in the animal kingdom; always heart-warming to see those better off lend themselves to help those less fortunate.

That makes it all the more sad to see such fighting amongst each other. The comments below where we attack one another with cruel words and personal attacks, sometimes based on a single sentence that could very likely be interpreted in many different ways; they are not doing any one any good. Maybe it’s easier to express our love to animals, they can’t emotionally hurt us in the same way.

These forums can be used for a lot of things, but putting each other down should never be one of them. The internet, starting with our own posts, is what we make it.

I don’t know what exactly we can make of all this, but with love, comes positivity.

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Slightly ironic that the ads your site (Ecowatch) is feeding with this article are for $3lbs free ground buffalo meat with your order of $100+.

Seems to me the concessionaires are wishing to increase their sales of bison meat… Contracted out gov’t services are prone to this nonsense (red light cameras, police impound cars scams etc). Classic abuse of the common good.
…. And man! is the food horrible in the beautiful park lodges these days. Costs like it’s Ruth Chris– tastes like it’s Prison food.

Why has this conversation devolved from the story about this man, Comfrey who had the courage of his convictions to make a stand, to babble about who should eat what and why? All I know about Comfrey comes from this page and from the really fine BBC documentary by Richard Grant, American Nomads. Check it out on YouTube. If you watch this documentary you’ll learn that Comfrey is an extraordinary human that has endured terrible hardship, literally raised himself and yet remains open and transparent and whole. I support the man and while I may not agree 100% with his views I will defend his right to hold them and say them and act upon them to the end. That said, I urge all of us to click this link http://www.buffalofieldcampaign.org/actnow/takeaction.html and stand with him.

My German immigrant grandfather grew up on a Sioux Indian Reservation and later lived with and taught the children there. He saw firsthand what the collapse of the bison population did to our country. Later he was a nomadic cowboy and ran herds of horses between the Black Mountains and Oregon. He was in my life long enough to instill in me a deep respect for bison. His view and now my view is that cows … cattle are completely inappropriate for most of North America and he advocated that ranchers switch back to bison. He said, “The meat is better and the animals require little care – just good open range and no GD fences.” In the same documentary noted above, Richard Grant speaks to this more eloquently and persuasively and again, I urge you to watch it all at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKWF9ZeLid8

My point, we should be doing everything we can to protect and allow bison to flourish. We should be doing everything we can to protect the species and to build the population so those of us that chose to can eat good free range “buffalo meat” instead of sick and sickening, drug-laden cows. Sure there’s good free range beef but the price premium is ridiculous.

I live near the Anza Borrego desert in San Diego County. Many people consider it to be an austere and rugged wilderness. It is not. It is an environment, an ecology in complete collapse. Why? Cattle and ranchers destroyed the soil structure, changed the weather and the damage is irreparable. What was once a utterly unique paradise is now a hell on earth. Need more on this, read this book: All the Wild and Lonely Places. Ironically it took a another Brit (Richard Grant hails from the UK also) to call BS on our local “national treasure”. Here’s a link to the book on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/All-Wild-Lonely-Places-Landscape/dp/1559636513.

Eat local and eat local animals that have adapted uniquely to the Western environment – it’s as simple as that. Restore the bison to to their former glory. It’s not complicated and it’s not too late. And help stand with Comfrey — for the love of everything good in the US. Make your stand before the option goes the way of the former Anza Borrego desert. And yes, even if you are a vegan – this goes well beyond the issue of food.

Jeff

Protecting the voiceless is an inalienable right and no law should stand that infringes on it. In fact, as we are moral beings, we have the fundamental obligation to protect wildlife and end meat production altogether.

gragor11a

“consignment to research” ? ? ? What, are we taking a page out of the book by Japanese whaling research supporters?

issyco

It’s shocking that Wyoming has become so barbaric and cruel! I am saddened for all the animals that found safe harbor there since it no longer is.