I think RW has the potential for a better future than RGIII simply because he's been smarter about taking hits so far. RGIII has already had a concussion, if I recall. That doesn't exactly spell "longevity".

Tru2RedNGold25 wrote:Us as Niners fan have every right to rep Niners all day everyday when we have the hardware to back it up do can u guys say that???

Shane Falco wrote:RGIII and Luck are pretty damn talented rooks with bright futures so coming in third behind those two guys, especially this early in the process, doesn't mean much.

When you consider the hype those guy had and have by the media any poll with them in it will go down this way. Wilson is going to have to win the Super Bowl single handed in order top those two guys.

Russell Wilson will have to maintain a QBR of over 125 AND the Hawks must win out the last half of the year for Russ to be mentioned in the same breath as Mr. Luck and RGIII ....and even then, they'll do it begrudgingly!

Hmmm, tell me if I'm off base here, but doesn't this post seem to be bashing our QB at the mid point of his rookie season? Does the content of this post also seem to suggest a measure of contempt toward those that don't agree with what it seems to imply about the long-term success of RW? My memory isn't the same as it used to be, so maybe a few of you could help me out....I could swear this post follows a game that we won -and in no small part- because of the QB. In the game prior to that, the QB aquitted himself pretty well in as well, or was that my imagination?

Is it just me, or does this post seem out of place? Shouldn't there be a forum more congruent with this sort of content like "Wilson haters R us" or "Or RW FAN haterz R us?"

I'm just wondering out-loud about the purpose of such posts. Does the info provided give forum members enough pursuasive information to make them acknowledge their QB will never amount to much.... or do they actually reveal an agenda, albeit a tired and old one? No 'attack' on the OP intended here you understand; just questions and observations about the post itself because inquiring minds...well you know the rest of the cliche'

HawKnPeppa wrote:I'm just wondering out-loud about the purpose of such posts. Does the info provided give forum members enough pursuasive information to make them acknowledge their QB will never amount to much.... or do they actually reveal an agenda, albeit a tired and old one? No 'attack' on the OP intended here you understand; just questions and observations about the post itself because inquiring minds...well you know the rest of the cliche'

I believe the intent of this thread was a tongue in cheek poke in the ribs about the propensity of forum members here to gush all over Wilson, that's all.

Wilson may be great one day, but you have to be insane to not be impressed with how well Luck and RGIII are playing right now.

It's pretty hard to get any pub for a rookie QB with the RG/Luck hype machine running at full steam. I for one actually think it's a HUGE blessing. I'm more than happy to have RG do his thing below the radar at this point in time. Not that I think it would necessarily even phase him, but he probably doesn't need over inflated expectations and a microscope following his every move in his rookie year. People will start to notice when the win streaks start and the efficiency rating starts living in the high 90's full time.

CANHawk wrote:It's pretty hard to get any pub for a rookie QB with the RG/Luck hype machine running at full steam. I for one actually think it's a HUGE blessing. I'm more than happy to have RG do his thing below the radar at this point in time. Not that I think it would necessarily even phase him, but he probably doesn't need over inflated expectations and a microscope following his every move in his rookie year. People will start to notice when the win streaks start and the efficiency rating starts living in the high 90's full time.

Russell Wilson is "below the radar"? Are you serious? He has become very well known outside of Seattle. Between all the offseason gushing from guys like Bill Simmons, his unusual situation (being a starting QB as a rookie third round pick), the attention he gets for being a short QB, the attention brought about from what happened at the end of the Packers game, and the fact that he plays for one of the NFL's most demonstrative coaches, I don't get how anyone can say he's been under the radar, or hasn't generated appropriate publicity.

He has performed very well in spite of all the attention he has received. I think that's one of the more impressive traits he has shown so far.

CANHawk wrote:It's pretty hard to get any pub for a rookie QB with the RG/Luck hype machine running at full steam. I for one actually think it's a HUGE blessing. I'm more than happy to have RG do his thing below the radar at this point in time. Not that I think it would necessarily even phase him, but he probably doesn't need over inflated expectations and a microscope following his every move in his rookie year. People will start to notice when the win streaks start and the efficiency rating starts living in the high 90's full time.

Russell Wilson is "below the radar"? Are you serious? He has become very well known outside of Seattle. Between all the offseason gushing from guys like Bill Simmons, his unusual situation (being a starting QB as a rookie third round pick), the attention he gets for being a short QB, the attention brought about from what happened at the end of the Packers game, and the fact that he plays for one of the NFL's most demonstrative coaches, I don't get how anyone can say he's been under the radar, or hasn't generated appropriate publicity.

He has performed very well in spite of all the attention he has received. I think that's one of the more impressive traits he has shown so far.

Oh yeah? Well... Charlie Whitehurst!

But compared to the other two, Elvis coming back to life and throwing for 3,000 yards would be below the radar. That's kinda what I meant.

CANHawk wrote:It's pretty hard to get any pub for a rookie QB with the RG/Luck hype machine running at full steam. I for one actually think it's a HUGE blessing. I'm more than happy to have RG do his thing below the radar at this point in time. Not that I think it would necessarily even phase him, but he probably doesn't need over inflated expectations and a microscope following his every move in his rookie year. People will start to notice when the win streaks start and the efficiency rating starts living in the high 90's full time.

CANHawk wrote:It's pretty hard to get any pub for a rookie QB with the RG/Luck hype machine running at full steam. I for one actually think it's a HUGE blessing. I'm more than happy to have RG do his thing below the radar at this point in time. Not that I think it would necessarily even phase him, but he probably doesn't need over inflated expectations and a microscope following his every move in his rookie year. People will start to notice when the win streaks start and the efficiency rating starts living in the high 90's full time.

To me the word "hype" says that the player doesn't back up all the press he gets with his play.........ala Tebow. Certainly not the case with either Luck or RG3, and in Luck's case he didn't ask for any of it.

He hasn't done hardly any endorsements, cause he doesn't feel like he deserves it when he hasn't accomplished anything yet.

People are sheep. People can't think for themselves. A lot of guys in the NFL do not like Russell Wilson because he shouldn't be doing what he is doing "in their eyes" and because he's a genuinely nice guy. He's short. A large number of NFL players are megalomaniacs.

So, with that said, how could a 5'11" shrimp ever be dominating these 6'5" Greek gods like he is? How dare him. He's also got flawless character and a good relationship with his wife. How the hell does he resist the temptation to sleep around all of the time and abuste hard drugs? Damn him. He sucks. He's a midget. I'm going to write off everything he's ever done. It was luck that he beat us, anyways. Stupid gnome. I don't want to look in the mirror.

Of course no one is going to vote for him. A lot of guys probably hate him. It goes much deeper than football. He'll gain their respect. Look at what happens every single time RW beats a team. Someone on the opposing defense starts babbling about "that midget" and how it's a fluke he won. Speaks more about the other individuals in my opinion.

Disagree, Sgt Largent. You can most certainly get hype while being talented. For example look no further than how the media slobbered over Brett Favre his entire career.

Andrew Luck is already flirting with Favre territory in terms of media gushing. Dude was 18 of 26, threw for 223, no passing tds (2 rushing), and a couple ints and ESPN was all over him last night. Dont get me wrong, Im impressed with him. But there definitely is hype surrounding him. And yes, simply being the #1 pick brings said hype.

Wilson is most certainly under the radar. He got a little bit of notice at the start of the season for winning the job as a short 3rd round pick. But since then, besides Bill Simmons (who is only one guy), the media in large hasnt said much. Im not complaining, and i totally get it. Luck and RG3 are two of the highest profile rookie qb's ever. And both are playing well. And RG3 is on the east coast. Its all good. But lets not be silly enough to act like Wilson is anything but an afterthought to the national media. Just the other day a poster here quoted ESPN radio as referring to Wilson as "disappears in games". Come on now.

And as far as the OP of this thread is concerned, he most certainly does have an agenda. Even if he's tried to be sneaky and subtle about it of late. Which is his only option at this point, as anything else would get him laughed off this site given Wilson's play of late. The whole point of this thread was his way of saying, "Look! Not everyone is as in love with Wilson as all of you!" The snarky comments said it all.

Hawkadeus wrote:Disagree, Sgt Largent. You can most certainly get hype while being talented. For example look no further than how the media slobbered over Brett Favre his entire career.

Andrew Luck is already flirting with Favre territory in terms of media gushing. Dude was 18 of 26, threw for 223, no passing tds (2 rushing), and a couple ints and ESPN was all over him last night. Dont get me wrong, Im impressed with him. But there definitely is hype surrounding him. And yes, simply being the #1 pick brings said hype.

Wilson is most certainly under the radar. He got a little bit of notice at the start of the season for winning the job as a short 3rd round pick. But since then, besides Bill Simmons (who is only one guy), the media in large hasnt said much. Im not complaining, and i totally get it. Luck and RG3 are two of the highest profile rookie qb's ever. And both are playing well. And RG3 is on the east coast. Its all good. But lets not be silly enough to act like Wilson is anything but an afterthought to the national media. Just the other day a poster here quoted ESPN radio as referring to Wilson as "disappears in games". Come on now.

And as far as the OP of this thread is concerned, he most certainly does have an agenda. Even if he's tried to be sneaky and subtle about it of late. Which is his only option at this point, as anything else would get him laughed off this site given Wilson's play of late. The whole point of this thread was his way of saying, "Look! Not everyone is as in love with Wilson as all of you!" The snarky comments said it all.

To be fair to Luck, he did run in two TDs, so he could have easily had 2 TD passes.

Hawkadeus wrote:Disagree, Sgt Largent. You can most certainly get hype while being talented. For example look no further than how the media slobbered over Brett Favre his entire career.

Andrew Luck is already flirting with Favre territory in terms of media gushing. Dude was 18 of 26, threw for 223, no passing tds (2 rushing), and a couple ints and ESPN was all over him last night. Dont get me wrong, Im impressed with him. But there definitely is hype surrounding him. And yes, simply being the #1 pick brings said hype.

Wilson is most certainly under the radar. He got a little bit of notice at the start of the season for winning the job as a short 3rd round pick. But since then, besides Bill Simmons (who is only one guy), the media in large hasnt said much. Im not complaining, and i totally get it. Luck and RG3 are two of the highest profile rookie qb's ever. And both are playing well. And RG3 is on the east coast. Its all good. But lets not be silly enough to act like Wilson is anything but an afterthought to the national media. Just the other day a poster here quoted ESPN radio as referring to Wilson as "disappears in games". Come on now.

And as far as the OP of this thread is concerned, he most certainly does have an agenda. Even if he's tried to be sneaky and subtle about it of late. Which is his only option at this point, as anything else would get him laughed off this site given Wilson's play of late. The whole point of this thread was his way of saying, "Look! Not everyone is as in love with Wilson as all of you!" The snarky comments said it all.

Exactly. All this past off season, the big talking heads were all over how great Andy Luck and Bob Griffen were going to be in the NFL. Now that they actually ARE doing well (and I fully agree that they both look stellar so far) the big talking heads are at risk of breaking their own arms patting themselves on the back. But with RUSTY, they all said that he's too short and won't ever amount to anything better than a quality back up and now that he's proving them all WRONG, they are conveniently ignoring what he's doing out here in Alaska.