Yeah, that was fun. I didn't think they'd spend so much time making me sympathize with the Antichrist this season, but here we are. Good show, show.posted by mordax at 10:39 PM on November 18, 2017

Fun, but Cas is NOT Cas. When in the car with Jack and Sammy, Cas starts giving a pick me up speech to Jack about how he lost people he LOVES. The camera cuts to Sam's face of surprise - Cas has called the Winchester's family, but an expression of love?

My guess is VoidCas plans to get near Jack to figure out how he is powerful enough to awaken slain angels/demons and destroy Jack so VoidCas can go back to sleep.

Also - was anyone else having tiny heart attacks waiting for Dean to die for real? Billie mentioned in the previous episodes that one of the binders of how Dean dies is in a cemetery by a ghoul. Or maybe she made sure that one didn't come to pass?posted by Suffocating Kitty at 2:41 PM on November 19, 2017 [2 favorites]

My guess is VoidCas plans to get near Jack to figure out how he is powerful enough to awaken slain angels/demons and destroy Jack so VoidCas can go back to sleep.

Oh, not a bad theory. I thought this one was kind of an anti-climax after all the drama about Cas being for-real DEAD this time. He was just suddenly alive again now, and the next thing we knew they were all off on a Monster of the Week adventure. It felt like they were trying to get back to business as usual too soon. I also wondered why Sam and Dean were so quick to accept this was really Castiel, with zero skepticism. But if Castiel ISN'T Castiel, that might explain why the boys were a little too quick to buy the story. If they demanded he prove himself he might fail, so for the sake of the story the boys are suddenly a little too trusting. (Of course the writers could have done a thing where Cas DID pass some test, only for it to later turn out Castiel was really Mr. Inky all along but he was able to fool them because he's just that superpowered and sneaky.)

But whatever we're thinking, it's probably not that. For good or ill, this show rarely goes the way anybody expects. I've heard some very good fan theories over the years, but I don't remember any of them turning out to be right!posted by Ursula Hitler at 5:06 PM on November 19, 2017 [1 favorite]

I've heard some very good fan theories over the years, but I don't remember any of them turning out to be right!

The only one I ever held that panned out was Chuck being God. I have no personal speculation regarding this being real vs. Void Castiel. (I assume we'll be seeing Inky again either way, but that's just an obvious Chekhov's Gun thing.)posted by mordax at 5:36 PM on November 19, 2017