On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Karl Newman <newmank1 at asme.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 2:40 PM, lists.md301 <lists.md301 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 12:07 AM, Karl Newman <newmank1 at asme.org> wrote:
>>>>> I had given up on portage for mythtv but I just checked this out. The
>>> myth plugins are handled differently now. Instead of installing mythmusic,
>>> mythnetvision, etc., you just install the single media-plugins/mythplugins
>>> package and enable the USE flags for the specific plugins you want. That
>>> seems like a much simpler and better method, and closer to how upstream
>>> distributes them. So in order to upgrade you'll probably have to manually
>>> uninstall your media-plugins/myth* packages, set up your USE flags in
>>> /etc/portage/package.use, then upgrade mythtv and install the mythplugins
>>> package.
>>>>>>> So is this documented any place "official" (like other than your email)?
>> I know I only found the interim Gentoo Portage from git directions from the
>> mailing list archive (back around 0.23->0.24, during that period when the
>> actual Gentoo support had gone stale), and I was really wondering how
>> Gentoo ebuilds were being handled. For myself, I'm still at 0.24-fixes and
>> will probably just wait until there is some stability with the eventual
>> 0.26-fixes before attempting any upgrade.
>>>> I'm sure there's nothing "official" for either Gentoo or MythTV about
> switching from an overlay package to a portage package. Sorry if gave you
> the impression I was involved with this change. I just looked at the new
> packages based on your prompting and figured out what had changed and what
> you needed to do to switch.
>>I didn't mean that you were in any way responsible--I had been thinking
about sending an email about this for a while, and your comment was as good
an opportunity as any. Thank you for the contents of your reply. I was
fishing for something authoritative from the responsible developer(s), or
direction to where that might be. I had seen the IRC conversation between
wagnerrp and cardoe, so I knew something was brewing on for the main
portage tree. Since ebuild generation became part of the github repository
(for 0.24, anyway), I was hoping there was some comment somewhere, in a
ticket or mailing that I might not have seen, as to what is the
"recommended" Gentoo update/migration method, or if it was officially
deprecated/abandoned. And if there is nothing official, then at least
other user experiences for those more adventurous to take the plunge.
When I brought new master backend hardware (more SATA ports for my disks!)
online last year coinciding with my update to 0.24, I did have parallel
production/test systems to shake things out...that's when I moved from the
official portage ebuilds to the overlay/git ones. Lacking that alternate
hardware now, when the time comes, I'll probably do what I have done
previously, (having learned my lesson with an difficult Gentoo expat update
years back), and clone my root partition to another on my master, reboot
into it (yeah, I suppose I could run chroot) and do my emerging there, with
the backend shut down, so there's no database discontinuity/orphaned
recordings to import.
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