That does NOT mean that gun owners who don't belong to the NRA have a secret desire to give up their guns. A lot of people don't belong to the NRA because they don't belong to anything. If the government should seize the member list of the NRA they have a wealth of information they can use against people.

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Uh ... Of course that's not what it means.

It means that more than 95 million people own firearms than are active supporting members of the NRA.
It means it is fucking foolish to think that bashing the NRA means squat to anything more than a fraction of gun owners.

It means when nit-wits on the left want to use the NRA as an accurate representation for those who support firearm ownership ...
They are just a bunch of ignorant dupes.

1,396,000 people have died in all US wars combined in our entire history, and that includes all the deaths from non-gun related causes like disease.

1,516,000 people have died from gunshots since 1968 in the US. That includes suicides and murders and every other death by gunshot in the US. And that was through 2015.

We can only estimate the number of gun deaths from 1776-1968, which are not added to the total. More people have died by gun violence in the US than soldiers that have died in all the wars we have fought in our history combined.

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Those data points suggest an interesting question: Are civilians at higher risk of dying due to being unlawfully and fatally shot in the course of going about civilian life than are military personnel while actively serving?

1,396,000 people have died in all US wars combined in our entire history, and that includes all the deaths from non-gun related causes like disease.

1,516,000 people have died from gunshots since 1968 in the US. That includes suicides and murders and every other death by gunshot in the US. And that was through 2015.

We can only estimate the number of gun deaths from 1776-1968, which are not added to the total. More people have died by gun violence in the US than soldiers that have died in all the wars we have fought in our history combined.

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Those data points suggest an interesting question: Are civilians at higher risk of dying due to being unlawfully and fatally shot in the course of going about civilian life than are military personnel while actively serving?

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The numbers speak very clearly on their own. More people have died in the US by gun since 1968 than have all of our soldiers in every war combined. You are safer to go to war and fight on the front lines than to remain a civilian in the US.

1,396,000 people have died in all US wars combined in our entire history, and that includes all the deaths from non-gun related causes like disease.

1,516,000 people have died from gunshots since 1968 in the US. That includes suicides and murders and every other death by gunshot in the US. And that was through 2015.

We can only estimate the number of gun deaths from 1776-1968, which are not added to the total. More people have died by gun violence in the US than soldiers that have died in all the wars we have fought in our history combined.

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This is a lie. Another lie by the anti gun extremists, that falls apart as soon as you look at it.....

The American people use their guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop violent criminal attack......

Criminals murder about 10-11 thousand people a year.....

49 years is the number of years given......so...

1,500,000 times a year X 49....

73,500,000 times that guns are used in self defense......

Gun violence given 11,000 people a year murdered by criminals, 70-80% of the victims are criminals.....

And again...defensive use of guns comes to 73,500,000 times that guns are used in self defense......using the number from the bill clinton Department of Justice research on gun violence and barak obama's Centers for Disease control research on all gun data...

1,396,000 people have died in all US wars combined in our entire history, and that includes all the deaths from non-gun related causes like disease.

1,516,000 people have died from gunshots since 1968 in the US. That includes suicides and murders and every other death by gunshot in the US. And that was through 2015.

We can only estimate the number of gun deaths from 1776-1968, which are not added to the total. More people have died by gun violence in the US than soldiers that have died in all the wars we have fought in our history combined.

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Those data points suggest an interesting question: Are civilians at higher risk of dying due to being unlawfully and fatally shot in the course of going about civilian life than are military personnel while actively serving?

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The numbers speak very clearly on their own. More people have died in the US by gun since 1968 than have all of our soldiers in every war combined. You are safer to go to war and fight on the front lines than to remain a civilian in the US.

1,396,000 people have died in all US wars combined in our entire history, and that includes all the deaths from non-gun related causes like disease.

1,516,000 people have died from gunshots since 1968 in the US. That includes suicides and murders and every other death by gunshot in the US. And that was through 2015.

We can only estimate the number of gun deaths from 1776-1968, which are not added to the total. More people have died by gun violence in the US than soldiers that have died in all the wars we have fought in our history combined.

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Those data points suggest an interesting question: Are civilians at higher risk of dying due to being unlawfully and fatally shot in the course of going about civilian life than are military personnel while actively serving?

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The numbers speak very clearly on their own. More people have died in the US by gun since 1968 than have all of our soldiers in every war combined. You are safer to go to war and fight on the front lines than to remain a civilian in the US.

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That is a lie...

Why is it anti gunners have to lie all the time.....?

Because the facts, the truth and reality do not support their belief system...

1,396,000 people have died in all US wars combined in our entire history, and that includes all the deaths from non-gun related causes like disease.

1,516,000 people have died from gunshots since 1968 in the US. That includes suicides and murders and every other death by gunshot in the US. And that was through 2015.

We can only estimate the number of gun deaths from 1776-1968, which are not added to the total. More people have died by gun violence in the US than soldiers that have died in all the wars we have fought in our history combined.

1,396,000 people have died in all US wars combined in our entire history, and that includes all the deaths from non-gun related causes like disease.

1,516,000 people have died from gunshots since 1968 in the US. That includes suicides and murders and every other death by gunshot in the US. And that was through 2015.

We can only estimate the number of gun deaths from 1776-1968, which are not added to the total. More people have died by gun violence in the US than soldiers that have died in all the wars we have fought in our history combined.

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Those data points suggest an interesting question: Are civilians at higher risk of dying due to being unlawfully and fatally shot in the course of going about civilian life than are military personnel while actively serving?

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Those numbrs are a lie....and do not include the lives saved with defensive gun use.....

1,396,000 people have died in all US wars combined in our entire history, and that includes all the deaths from non-gun related causes like disease.

1,516,000 people have died from gunshots since 1968 in the US. That includes suicides and murders and every other death by gunshot in the US. And that was through 2015.

We can only estimate the number of gun deaths from 1776-1968, which are not added to the total. More people have died by gun violence in the US than soldiers that have died in all the wars we have fought in our history combined.

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Those data points suggest an interesting question: Are civilians at higher risk of dying due to being unlawfully and fatally shot in the course of going about civilian life than are military personnel while actively serving?

Click to expand...

The numbers speak very clearly on their own. More people have died in the US by gun since 1968 than have all of our soldiers in every war combined. You are safer to go to war and fight on the front lines than to remain a civilian in the US.

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The information you provided is insufficient to answer the question I asked. Risk of the sort about which I asked is partly a function of the size of the two populations as well as the measurement period . Simply knowing that more people died from gunshots since 1968 than did people who died in all U.S. does not ask about the question I asked because the question I asked pertains to the risk of being shot for two separate groups: civilians going about civilian life and soldiers/military personnel actively serving.

Were it so that the information you provided indeed answered the question I asked, I wouldn't have said, "Those data points suggest an interesting question." Instead I'd have simply "done the math" to deduce the answer, whereupon I'd have simply declaratively presented that math and the answer. Raw counts affect risk calculations, but they are not the sole determinant of risk.​

Ask yourself this question. Which is a better predictor of violent behavior, owning a gun or displaying yourself on Facebook as a badass? After today’s tragedy and all the calls for “we have to do something” let’s get to the root of the problem. Facebook promotes all kinds of abnormal behavior. It allows people to act out their fantasies in a completely unaccountable manner. What is swept under the rug is the fact that these people can be very easily identified. People who are acting out on Facebook are advertising their mental condition. Requiring Facebook to report these people is only good citizenship. I guarantee that without the Facebook platform, many crimes would never happen. For those complaining about NRA culpability, what about google, Facebook, and twitter culpability?

The only defense against the argument is the privacy concern. But let’s remember one thing. You are not forced to be a Facebook consumer. It is a choice. Can anyone who argues for gun control not argue for social media control? While I know some who use Facebook as a business tool, it is mainly nothing more than a gossip page. Your phone calls can be monitored but your Facebook feed cannot be monitored for safety concerns, with the same warrant from the court protections?

For some reason social media has been off limits to legal restrictions, monitoring, and accountability.
Many students at the Florida high school said if there was ever a school shooting this Cruz character would be the one to do it. All the signs were there and much of the information to confirm this was on Facebook, especially when combined with the kids school history. Let’s start focusing on what are the clearest indicators of mental health issues and have all of society contribute to a end to these school tragedies.

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Facebook is just the new version of standing in the park telling everyone how cool you are and should be treated so legally.

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Well that is not true. With Facebook you tell millions, not dozens and your screed does not disappear when you leave the park. The anonymity increases the sense of power. Get real.

1,396,000 people have died in all US wars combined in our entire history, and that includes all the deaths from non-gun related causes like disease.

1,516,000 people have died from gunshots since 1968 in the US. That includes suicides and murders and every other death by gunshot in the US. And that was through 2015.

We can only estimate the number of gun deaths from 1776-1968, which are not added to the total. More people have died by gun violence in the US than soldiers that have died in all the wars we have fought in our history combined.

Click to expand...

Those data points suggest an interesting question: Are civilians at higher risk of dying due to being unlawfully and fatally shot in the course of going about civilian life than are military personnel while actively serving?

Click to expand...

The numbers speak very clearly on their own. More people have died in the US by gun since 1968 than have all of our soldiers in every war combined. You are safer to go to war and fight on the front lines than to remain a civilian in the US.

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Off-Topic:

The information you provided is insufficient to answer the question I asked. Risk of the sort about which I asked is partly a function of the size of the two populations as well as the measurement period . Simply knowing that more people died from gunshots since 1968 than did people who died in all U.S. does not ask about the question I asked because the question I asked pertains to the risk of being shot for two separate groups: civilians going about civilian life and soldiers/military personnel actively serving.

Were it so that the information you provided indeed answered the question I asked, I wouldn't have said, "Those data points suggest an interesting question." Instead I'd have simply "done the math" to deduce the answer, whereupon I'd have simply declaratively presented that math and the answer. Raw counts affect risk calculations, but they are not the sole determinant of risk.​

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Data, is that you?

I intentionally left out comment in my original post. The data speaks louder than anyone could.

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