A Letter to Lindsay Lohan From a Muslim Girl

Asalaam walaikom. You were one of my favorite actors growing up, and “The Parent Trap” is one of my all-time favorite movies. When I was in high school, I obsessed over Mean Girls and I made sure everyone watched it because it was so funny!

I’m really sorry for the backlash you’ve faced when you were walking with the Qur’an. It’s not fair, especially during this post-election climate. Studying and embracing Islam while being a Hollywood star must be an awkward combination for the press. How did you handle it?

Whether or not you decide to revert to Islam, we will still support you, because that’s what Muslims do. tweet

What you said about the Qur’an impacting you was beautiful! You found some peace and opportunity. You were finding yourself! As a Muslim myself, I shouldn’t take the Qur’an for granted. I should find myself through it too.

I never thought you would relate to Muslim women who wear headscarves like me. You understood why we feel like “outsiders.” Instead of just nodding your head and moving on, you wanted to learn more! Plus, you told the story about the woman giving you the scarf and it was really heartwarming. How come the media doesn’t want people to hear that? I’m glad you went out of your way to tell the truth.

Whether or not you decide to revert to Islam, we will still support you, because that’s what Muslims do. You took the time to actually understand and appreciate Islam for what it really is and not what the media and politicians have to say. The experience and the truth is what really matters. No matter what, you’re a sister to the community and we welcome you with open arms. May Allah make it easy on your new chapter and thank you.

“If an atheist went walking in the majority of muslim countries with a book proclaiming their atheism, they would be arrested and potentially slaughtered. This is merciless.”
I see that you are into fabrications and lies.You make up stuff for which you have no basis. Which Muslim countries have you been to? Where have you seen this?

“Verbal abuse is nothing compared with the hatred atheists and apostates suffer in Islam.”
Your opinion is unsubstantiated. As such it carries no weight. Please substantiate your allegations from Islam’s primary scripture: The Quran.
Thank you.

Revert sisters in the UK are bullied into it by Pakistani and Bangladeshi husbands. Why can’t spouses have different religions unless there is brainwashing? In order to brainwash children.

If you are a practising Muslim woman you will either have a very dominant husband, low self-esteem, or a very low IQ.

Intelligence will eventually outrun Islam and the hallucinogenic, syphillitic, rantings of the false prophet Mohammed (pbuh).

The hundreds and thousand of “reverts” won’t make any difference as civilisation will not allow Islam to grow any more. Islam had its chance a thousand years ago when it could be spread through war and rape, well about as far as Africa. Now it can just get on an aeroplane.

Don’t worry, the West will provide the economy, education, culture, wherewithal and yes, I’m sorry, sometimes nasty stuff like discipline and military to let the little Muslimas have their little fantasy. Aaaah…

Be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be.
And whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life,
keep peace with your soul. With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

Only when we are all happy can we cut the head off the Snake i.e. the West.

I can tell that you may be scared of fighting because of your comfy Western bubble where the internet is a safe option that won’t break your nails. I know excuses when I see them.

It is your duty to keep our religion pure. If not you must keep your mind pure by taking up a more wholesome hobby such as stamp collecting. If you like you can concentrate on stamps from middle eastern countries and put them in pride of place in your album (putting the corrupt Western ones at the back).

Your Paki West Fakes are rubbing shoulders With The Evil West Genocidal
psychopaths. And your BS Ullamahs are sitting like puppets , go take
your khubah to them !!

What! Where did you learn to speak in such an uncivilized manner? I am from Pakistan. I am a Muslim. What have you against us? Where are you from? You sound Indian? You speak like one. Are you a Hindu?

“Do not message me again , I am not here to impress anyone least of all judgemental people! Alhamdulillah I am good alone.”
No, you are not good alone. And you take God’s name in vain. You come through as a conceited, narcissistic fool. A dimwit, and a mental case at that. You need looking after. Go see a doc ASAP.

The Young Turks who attacked Armenians were SECULAR. Some of them, like Emmanuel Carasso Efendi and Marcel Samuel Raphael Cohen, were Jews. The Ottoman Empire doesn’t even exist anymore! Are you going to take your revenge on secularists and Jews???

Besides it says a lot that you have to dig in the archives to find some grievance, when Muslims can point to what is being done to them by Western imperialists TODAY. Right now, as I type, when there is still an opportunity to stop it. The destruction of Iraq, for example, is ONGOING.

We don’t need to go to the dusty archives to find a myriad of examples of the West’s colossal crimes.

Also, Emmanuel Carasso’s wikipedia page contains nothing about the Armenian Genocide so you may want to expound on this. Same for for Munis Tekinalp (aka Marcel Samuel Raphael Cohen). The only other reference I can find about him in regard to Armenia is in a piece of anti-semitic propaganda called Protocols of the Elders of Zion (which I sincerely hope you haven’t read).

So that somehow justifies punishing random Muslims, and ONLY Muslims? What happened to the Armenians was within the context of war. The UN HAS NOT designated an “Armenian Genocide,” and so you are simply accepting the Armenian account without question.

Yet Turkey has offered to decide this matter on neutral ground and the Armenians have refused.

In any case, as I said before, it’s interesting that YOU must dig around in the historical dustbin to find some justification for attacking Muslims. Yet we can see all around us RIGHT NOW Western criminality wrecking vast regions of the world.

You refuse to acknowledge the reality of what’s happening based on your apparent primitive tribalism. It’s about objectively evaluating WHAT is morally right or wrong, but making exceptions based on WHO is acting.

A person who refuses to acknowledge and lend efforts to stop an ONGOING genocide today–in Palestine and Iraq, for example–while dwelling on way to blame Muslims today for the actions of SECULARISTS nearly 100 years ago shows your (1) stupidity (2) lack of moral clarity.

You are not a person with any ideas worth hearing. You are a deranged pest with obvious psychological problems.

I do support reducing the genocide in Iraq and we have done that in removing the genocidal Islamist lunatic Saddam Hussein. Even the Iraqis recognise Halabja as genocide.

I also support protecting Israeli citizens against the terrorism of Hamas.

Look, Israel will never be Arab. It was Jewish once and it is Jewish again. It also has too much historic to value to Jews, Christians, Muslims and, ahem, Armenians. We still need to protect the Armenians from the murderous Muslims, lest you forget.

Only someone with psychological problems due to generational inbreeding would think that Muslims could run that region without it turning into the biggest bloodbath humanity has seen.

I guess she was not counting on your in dept knowledge about the Armenian Civil War of so very long ago. BTW I did not know those details either. But I am partial to Turkey. We love the Turks. I am glad they are getting their pride back.

Maybe best to sit this one out. The place is churning, I hear. We are planning a defense pact with Turkey. We are one, as brothers, always have been. About time to put some teeth into it.

We are having some problems here too, generated by India mostly. But otherwise life is good. The rumor here was that the Americans had something to do with the attempted coup in Turkey and now against us. I don’t really know. My understanding about World affairs and politics in limited.

“Why not? She seems a very nice person. We had a short but friendly pleasant conversation. I look to having more such informative chats with her. Why do you think she will not reply to me?”

Yes, all that is true. She is a very nice person. And you may have had a friendly chat and made good acquaintance of her but I can almost guarantee that she will not reply to your comment above. Because you had said to her that “We are having some problems here too, generated by India mostly.”

That was the wrong thing to say to her. She runs a blog called Loonwatch made up of a paranoid coterie of creepy Hindoos and cultural Hindoos from India. I had asked you to take a look at it. Did you?

When you do let me know and we can talk. If I am not here you can track me through my profile. Remind me and I will explain it to you. And be careful. You are new around here. The World is not as trusting and innocent as Pakistan. If you people were not so strong, you’d been Gaza and Iraq long ago.

Also be aware that other sites are not as open, friendly and benign as ‘MuslimGirl’. Always, as you log on, consider the Internet generally, and Loonwatch in particular, as hostile territory for Muslims. And work through a screen of high quality antivirus and malware programs. Be aware and take care.

I did take a look at that site you recommended. A strange one. Saw them posting or tweeting false news, a year old at that, about Muslims in Pakistan forcing Hindu and Christian girls to become Muslims. That is an absurd lie.

Pakistan has laws protecting all minorities. I wonder why Loonwatch is doing this. Have you asked your friend Ilisha about the anti Pakistan policy of her blog?

“I really love Turkey. I visited Istanbul a couple of years ago, and it
was WONDERFUL. A beautiful country with kind, friendly people.”
A very pleasant surprise, Ilisha. I did not know that you had ever been abroad. Much less to Turkey. Good for you. Happy for you.

A little sad too, for me. I realize now from your talk with Mariam here and your intense interactions and sharing with another at LW that you talked to me rarely, if ever. You never shared anything with me. Rebuked me when I wanted to know you.

At the slightest desire to know you, talk to you, you shut me up. Sadder still that you never read all that I wrote for you. What a waste. Sorrowful that after all these years we remain strangers still. Frenemies at best.

I wish I knew the reason why. Beyond my understanding. But should matter not. Yet somehow it does. I was ‘sent’ to you, for you. Not you for me. I will be ‘told’ if I have been true to the ‘word’ and fulfilled that which was ‘asked’ of me. However, all that has gone before, lost forever, saddens me.

The risk, the slippery slope in the ‘obligation’, was always there. But I had not recognized its full extent at the time. Only now so late in the day has its true emotional cost comes clear to me.

We live, we learn. That is what is so great about being alive. We live, learn, experience life and living. Then the ultimate waste. We die!

I did not know you were so well traveled, Ilisha. Thank you for telling me about it. You should have posted some pictures of your travels.

I wish you’d pop in more often than “now and then”. You make me happy. I yearn to know more about your offline real life things. Beyond those I already know. But that which is given freely is far more pleasing and delightful.

Maybe be one day you will have the confidence, trust is the better word here, to share some of them with me. If not as a lover then as the loving heart of a friend who only thinks the best of you, for you. Even as a stranger far away, yet not so far away that you can not share.

That which you told me, some of which I already knew, I had tried many a times over the years to touch on them with you. At times directly. Not out of curiosity but out of concern. And a gnawing desire to take some of the hurt away. To know you some. Understand you more.

There was no need to shy away. Ships passing in the night. That is what we are. Buffeted by the storms of life I do not judge you. I do not condemn you. I don’t criticize you. Even though it may seem that way at times. My language is poor and wanting. And words get in the way.

Forgive me if I faltered. I just wanted to know you more. Share your feelings and experiences. And tried very hard to but was misunderstood. You are not offline but very real to me. Some of it you know. Some I have told you. But some more, real.

You should not have shredded your cumulative content and history. They were not just talking points. Those you can reproduce and replicate many times over as often as you wish. But there were others too. Their flavor is lost. I hope you can retrieve them. Your archives or through WordPress.

It is not just words and thoughts but the emotions attached to them. They can only come true when you read them … like memory released by a sweet fragrance or a sad song that takes you back in time as if it was real. You could write a book on them. Perhaps a novella or two. Short stories too. I often wonder if you wrote before LW. You surely did. Perhaps under another name. I want to read what you wrote, Ilisha. Please!

But those frozen waterfalls icicles and lake were more than a thousand words. Thank you for the sharing of them, your deepest feelings. I imagine it was difficult for you. With the New Year you have turned a new leaf. That I can feel. May spring come back to your step again, joy a thousand fold. And bring flowers to your heart.

Thank you for the warm wishes Ilisha. I keep shamelessly well. And wish you better still. Share your thoughts and feelings more often, please.
You make me happy.
Thank you, Ilisha.
Bless you.

I was trying to add a couple of photos from Turkey, but for some reason I can’t add them. There is no “attach” option and pasting them directly into the body of the comment didn’t work. 🙁

I get what you’re saying about my comments. I’ve found what you’re saying is 100% true. You can read something written long ago, and stir with long-forgotten emotions. Same with songs and fragrances. But in part that’s the very reason I like to delete my comments. They expose too much genuine feeling for this venue. I don’t regret deleting them.

I have turned a new leaf with the new year–but a bit belatedly. Just in the last couple of days I finally got a bit of a break, after almost 5 years of nonstop crisis! I’m very grateful and cautiously optimistic.

Hope you’re doing well. If it takes some time to get replies from me, know that I’m simply not signing on all that much for now. When I do pop in an see you around, I’ll say hello.

“I get what you’re saying about my comments. I’ve found what you’re saying is 100% true. You can read something written long ago, and stir with long-forgotten emotions. Same with songs and fragrances.”
Exactly, that is how you retain connectivity with yourself. In the extreme if we wake up each morning and remember not what went before, as in Alzheimer for example, we forget who we are, what we were, where we are coming from, what is important and what matters and why.

Our memories make us what we are. They enrich us as human beings and we learn from them. When we write them down in emotion, thought and context … they are us. They complete us as beings alive. Wipe off our memories and we are no more. We seize to exist as the person we are.

“But in part that’s the very reason I like to delete my comments. They expose too much genuine feeling for this venue. I don’t regret deleting them.”
You don’t regret deleting them. But I do. I regret very much that you did and am sad for you that you did. Like as if it was a self mutilation in disguise.They were a part of you, four years of you.

I was alarmed for a while, as if you were subconsciously trying to self erase yourself. As if you were removing that what may perhaps was too nostalgic, sort of a sweet hurt, too much of it. As If you were trying to forget that which was you.

Your true feelings were in there. Instead of deleting them you had the alternative of downloading them to an external drive. Even a small 8G thumb would have served the purpose. I wonder if you considered that option even as you devalued that which you had so painstakingly written down, put down a part of yourself. A self therapy of sorts.

My point is that you are a natural writer with passion and intellect. You see and feel things deeply. And can parse them in a manner few can. You have to write because that is the way you relax and think and are in your own. Not too different from an artist who paints or plays music, mediation into yourself that makes you whole, calm and complete … at peace with yourself, least for those moments in time.

I suggest that you retrieve them onto a private thumb drive. And keep them in your personal archives. You probably could do it through WordPress archives or in ways I don’t know but you surly do.

One day as you took back in time you will have a perspective that will allow you to weave them into stories, novella and novels. Perhaps even as pivot points in your autobiography. You would love that, I know. I am looking at what you will look at in time.

Don’t you downplay and underestimate yourself, Ilisha. I often pray for your happiness and well being. Two of my prayers for you have come true. I now have to stick to the bargain and sacrifice I made of what I desired most. May your cautious optimism bear fruit. That you be happy and fulfilled of your choosing.

“I get what you’re saying about my comments. I’ve found what you’re saying is 100% true. You can read something written long ago, and stir with long-forgotten emotions. Same with songs and fragrances.”
Exactly, that is how you retain connectivity with yourself. In the extreme if we wake up each morning and remember not what went before, as in Alzheimer for example, we forget who we are, what we were, where we are coming from, what is important and what matters and why.

Our memories make us what we are. They enrich us as human beings and we learn from them. When we write them down in emotion, thought and context … they are us. They complete us as beings alive. Wipe off our memories and we are no more. We seize to exist as the person we are.

“But in part that’s the very reason I like to delete my comments. They expose
too much genuine feeling for this venue. I don’t regret deleting them.”
You don’t regret deleting them. But I do. I regret very much that you did and am sad for you that you did. Like as if it was a self mutilation in disguise.They were a part of you, four years of you. A signature of your soul.That hurts even to say it.

I was alarmed for a while, as if you were subconsciously trying to self erase yourself. As if you were removing that what may perhaps was too nostalgic, sort of a sweet hurt, too much of it. As If you were trying to forget that which was you.

Your true feelings were in there. Instead of deleting them you had the alternative of downloading them to an external drive. Even a small 8G thumb would have served the purpose. I wonder if you considered that option even as you devalued that which you had so painstakingly written down, put down a part of yourself. A self therapy of sorts.

My point is that you are a natural writer with passion and intellect. You see and feel things deeply. And can parse them in a manner few can. You have to write because that is the way you relax and think and are in your own. Not too different from an artist who paints or plays music, mediation into yourself that makes you whole, calm and complete … at peace with yourself, at least for those moments in time.

I suggest that you retrieve them onto a private thumb drive. And keep them in your personal archives. You probably could do it through WordPress archives or in ways I don’t know but you surly do.

One day as you took back in time you will have a perspective that will allow you to
weave them into stories, novella and novels. Perhaps even as pivot points in your autobiography. You would love that, I know. I am looking at what you will look at in time.

Don’t you downplay and underestimate yourself, Ilisha. I often pray for your happiness and well being. Two of my prayers for you have come true. I now have to stick to the bargain and sacrifice I made of what I desired most. May your
cautious optimism bear fruit. That you be happy and fulfilled of your
choosing.

“In an ideal Islamic society, women have a choice. Being FORCED to work,
even though I don’t want to, doesn’t feel like autonomy to me.”
Ilisha you made this statement on another thread. I am not sure I understand it. What are you saying? Are you talking about your yourself?

I wish for your contentment of heart and peace of mind.
Talk to me some times when you can.
Be Well. Be Safe.

Your so called human rights laws are made to support criminals , that’s what the west is!!
Puppets of The Rouge state , keep your bs out of Muslim’s countries. Shariah laws protect Victims and we don’t believe in partnership with The Adulterous West Regimes.

“I’m not going to put my hand in a fire to know it burns, or push my face into a plate of shit to know it stinks.”
You are being facetious or are just stupid. One does not have to put ones hand in the fire to know that fire burns. And push ones face into a plate of shit to know it stinks. BTW you keep shit in plates? Do you eat shit? Just saying.

“I don’t about the minutiae. This is what the majority of people who want to see the death of Islam in the West think. That’s enough for me.”
Dealing death to a religion and extermination of a people are not minutiae. What people think is enough for you yet you have failed to substantiate your opinion or theirs.

There is a major gap between what the West thinks it can do and what it can do. A bunch of farmers with guns bested West Point and Sandhurst. And defeated two empires back to back. Dismembering one. Demoralizing the other. You have no idea what you are talking about.

“If you are a Muslim, you are only one by an accident of birth and continually brainwashed in a manner similar to cognitive behaviour therapy.”
You assume and presume too much. Again without substantiation. You are the gullible uneducated one here. You are the one who needs education and therapy.

“If you think I am wrong, then I am wrong through free will. Unlike you who has never experienced freedom. Only fear.”
You are indeed wrong. And you have no free will. You don’t know what it is.

Your comments here have demonstrated beyond doubt that you are ignorant, uneducated, brainwashed who does not the have the IQ of a rodent who knows that fire burns and shit stinks from a mile off.

And you have absolutely no idea what kind of life I have led. The freedoms I have had and what fear I may have known. Not one bit.

Oh, I think I know you. You are obviously thin-skinned and over sensitive. With that no doubt obsessive and jealous too. You are afraid of your doubts about Islam – how can intelligence and open-mindness be reconciled with Islam which resists suchlike. People may be getting more intelligent but Islam sure ain’t.

This is why you fight people like me. You are scared of yourself and want to prove to yourself you are right.

Hmmm, I imagine you also have some vain heroic aspirations as well. Being a white knight won’t vanquish your personal demons though.

Don’t worry about your fear and doubt though because here is what will happen. You won’t experience some sort of mental armegeddon – an apostastic meltdown.

You will simply get bored of Islam and these conversations. When people have conversations about religion you will start drifting off and thinking about soft furnishings and the new iPhone instead. It will just gradually, painlessly vanish from your ken.

“Oh, I think I know you.”
You flatter yourself. I don’t recall doing you. You can’t pay me for it on your best day.

“You are obviously thin-skinned and over sensitive. With that no doubt obsessive and jealous too.”
You are projecting. You project too much. It shows.

“You are afraid of your doubts about Islam – how can intelligence and open-mindness be reconciled with Islam which resists suchlike. People may be getting more intelligent but Islam sure ain’t.”
I have no doubts about Islam. High intelligence and open mindedness embrace Islam. Knowledge, Intelligence, open minded inquiry and Islam are a natural fit. In Islam, in the Qur’an, is Eternal Wisdom.

“This is why you fight people like me. You are scared of yourself and want to prove to yourself you are right.”
I don’t fight you. There is no fight in you. You are no match for me. No conquest. And I am not scared of myself. Most people however are. Intimidated by me in fact. But I am very comfortable with myself, more than most. More comfortable with myself than almost anyone can be with oneself.

“Hmmm, I imagine you also have some vain heroic aspirations as well. Being a white knight won’t vanquish your personal demons though.”
You obsess about me a bit too much. You have run away with your imaginations and aspirations about me. I have no personal demons. I don’t know what you mean by white knight?

“Don’t worry about your fear and doubt though because here is what will happen. You won’t experience some sort of mental armegeddon – an apostastic
meltdown.”
You need to tell your psychiatrist to change your meds. Else change you psychiatrist. Get a second opinion if you will. You obsess too much. You project too much. You spout nonsense”

“You will simply get bored of Islam […] When people have conversations about religion you will start drifting off and thinking about soft furnishings and the new iPhone instead.”
Islam is Eternal. You don’t get bored with exploring the Eternal. Soft furnishings and creature comforts are of little to no relevance, have no place in a Muslim’s, a Momin’s life style. Technological trinkets I have them, all. Only because I have to stay up to the state of the art, the cutting edge of technology as a matter of course. As tools to use. Nothing more.

The only thing I miss is that Allah has not allowed me a woman in my life. A woman to love and be loved by. That other thing, that I can have with relative ease. A new one every weekend if I so wish but then that too is not in my lifestyle. And hope never will I succumb to it.

“You will let me know when the lambs stop screaming though, won’t you?”
Are you screaming, lamb? Was that all this pseudo psychoanalysis was about, then?

Hmm, I see you are not the usual forum denizen and as a girl I cannot help but feel stirrings when confronted with such a confident, intelligent and convicted man. I find it hard to believe you haven’t got a partner!

I am physically attracted to Arab / Pakistani men and I imagine you to look like Imran Khan… but you also seem to have the strong but caring character of Harvey Specter.

The thing that frustrates me though with you guys and the reason I troll around like this is that I cannot stand the religious aspect. I have had wonderful relationships with caring Jewish and Hindu men, but I would never date a Muslim because I couldn’t stand being inferior to a man.

I would never betray 100 years of women’s liberation by dating a Muslim.

Thank you for the compliments if that is what they are. But they seem sort of subtle and backhanded. Too intuitive and cryptic for me.

You sound sincere but what are you telling me? You are saying something that I am not sure I am getting. Now, I am curious, so what is it? Please, could you get right out and tell me, say it. I may be a bit too dense to see it otherwise.

No you are not dense. I have read your comments. You are nobody’s fool. But people do take advantage of you. By now you surely have figured out what I said. And what I meant. I said it in good faith, need say no more. BTW do you understand Punjabi or Urdu?

“By now you surely have figured out what I said. And what I meant. I said
it in good faith, need say no more. BTW do you understand Punjabi or Urdu?
I know what you said. Have no question about your good faith, kindness and concern with which you brought it up. You have been talking to Ilisha. You two seem to click. BTW Have you been to Loonwatch?

Yes, I understand spoken Punjabi and Urdu well. Can speak them some too. Can read Urdu a little but not write it much. My language skills are not much by any means but do know bits of Persian, French and German. Barely enough to find my way about, if that. Plan to learn Spanish. Speak in complete sentences rather than the few words I know.

A couple of years or so ago I tried hard to learn Hindi, from videos. Wanted to know and understand someone I liked so very much. Did not get to know her, though. Not in English. Not in Hindi. She just closed up on me. Don’t know why. Did not tell me.

But I did come to know the Hindoos. How they live, their family characteristics and their lifestyle.The ugliest of creation, most vulgar and obscene ever made. The vilest of humanity – the hate and poison they carry for Islam and Muslims. Unbelievable!

EC go through this thread carefully please! And see the conspiracy of Seeker, talking to me , thru Yusuf Al Kadwani. Alhamdulillah I deliberately put the message up , that I previously sent her. And wow the third conspiracy head popped up, Mariam !!