FTA:Responding to questions during a Google Hangout session, Assange praised the college-aged supported libertarian faction of the Republican Party as the "only hope" for U.S. electoral politics.

There's a reason libertarians enjoy support from college kids in near perpetuity - they like the idea of legal pot, but once they graduate and enter the real world they realize the rest of the platform is complete bunk fairly quickly.

TuteTibiImperes:There's a reason libertarians enjoy support from college kids in near perpetuity - they like the idea of legal pot, but once they graduate and enter the real world they realize the rest of the platform is complete bunk fairly quickly.

But Rand Paul isn't in favor of legalizing pot.

And I think Assange is just trolling us now. Or else he's just a crazy mofo.

TuteTibiImperes:FTA:Responding to questions during a Google Hangout session, Assange praised the college-aged supported libertarian faction of the Republican Party as the "only hope" for U.S. electoral politics.

There's a reason libertarians enjoy support from college kids in near perpetuity - they like the idea of legal pot, but once they graduate and enter the real world they realize the rest of the platform is complete bunk fairly quickly.

In general it has a lot of the same appeals as Communism. The young idealists fall for it, but as they move into reality and understand that the ideals don't actually work in the real world they move to more reasonable positions.

Satanic_Hamster:TuteTibiImperes: There's a reason libertarians enjoy support from college kids in near perpetuity - they like the idea of legal pot, but once they graduate and enter the real world they realize the rest of the platform is complete bunk fairly quickly.

But Rand Paul isn't in favor of legalizing pot.

And I think Assange is just trolling us now. Or else he's just a crazy mofo.

I was a college libertarian. I attended a speech by Harry Browne in 2000 and donated to the campaign. I live in Kentucky so before anyone says so, no I did not cost Gore the presidency. I knew a local libertarian, he was my then-girlfriend's mom's boyfriend. He grew pot on his big farm, and it was really good. He was also a gun nut. Shooting his Tommy gun is one of my favorite memories of those days. Then I grew up and realized that "get the government out of our lives" was really only an economic slogan for the prosperous, and that the disadvantaged don't want to get the government out of their lives. So now I'm a lefty-libby-liberson. I have yet to start my own anarcho-communist syndicate.

Satanic_Hamster:TuteTibiImperes: There's a reason libertarians enjoy support from college kids in near perpetuity - they like the idea of legal pot, but once they graduate and enter the real world they realize the rest of the platform is complete bunk fairly quickly.

But Rand Paul isn't in favor of legalizing pot.

And I think Assange is just trolling us now. Or else he's just a crazy mofo.

A libertarian in the Republican party is a fake libertarian. Oh Rand likes to be called a libertarian, but raping women is definitely ok.http://rt.com/usa/assange-ron-rand-paul-584/The Paul family, added Assange, have been "the strongest supporters of the fight against the US attack on WikiLeaks and on me."

"The Republican Party in so far as how it has coupled together with the war industry is not a conservative party at all and the Libertarian aspect of the Republican Party is presently the only useful political voice in the US Congress," said Assange.

anfrind:Considering that Julian Assange seems to be more interested in hurting America than in freedom of information, this doesn't surprise me at all.

/Bradley Manning was hopelessly naieve

We've been hurting ourselves for far longer and in far more grievous ways than Assange ever will. I'd like to see what's in the insurance file just so I can point to it and go "SEE! I've been telling you this for YEARS!"

sheep snorter:Oh Oh. Heres comes 'Murica to blast rock and roll at the Ecuadorian embassy in England. OR maybe polka music for this case.

Libertarian party platform.http://www.lp.org/platformThe Right of having ownership over ones own body.

A libertarian in the Republican party is a fake libertarian. Oh Rand likes to be called a libertarian, but raping women is definitely ok.http://rt.com/usa/assange-ron-rand-paul-584/The Paul family, added Assange, have been "the strongest supporters of the fight against the US attack on WikiLeaks and on me."

"The Republican Party in so far as how it has coupled together with the war industry is not a conservative party at all and the Libertarian aspect of the Republican Party is presently the only useful political voice in the US Congress," said Assange.

It's awfully telling that this new star of the ultra-bootstrappy individualist Libertarian party wouldn't be within a thousand miles of the capitol if he didn't play off his daddy's name every chance he gets.

But what does the old lady who runs the downtown library think? Because she's got a functionally identical role in ensuring freedom of information that's just as important as Assange's (they both just keep the records of shiat other people with actual skills and bravery) and she actually lives here and isn't a misdemeanor rapist (so far as I know).

Satanic_Hamster:TuteTibiImperes: There's a reason libertarians enjoy support from college kids in near perpetuity - they like the idea of legal pot, but once they graduate and enter the real world they realize the rest of the platform is complete bunk fairly quickly.

But Rand Paul isn't in favor of legalizing pot.

And I think Assange is just trolling us now. Or else he's just a crazy mofo.

Or he could be high.

Alternatively he could just be like the typical Paul supporter and only hear what he want to hear coming out of a Paul's mouth.

I'm shocked, shocked I say at the number of people that thought that he was somehow a liberal. He's an anti-government whack job. Probably the closest thing to a libertarian Australia has yet produced.

Satanic_Hamster:TuteTibiImperes: There's a reason libertarians enjoy support from college kids in near perpetuity - they like the idea of legal pot, but once they graduate and enter the real world they realize the rest of the platform is complete bunk fairly quickly.

But Rand Paul isn't in favor of legalizing pot.

And I think Assange is just trolling us now. Or else he's just a crazy mofo.

Rand Paul isn't in favor of legalized pot or same sex marriage but you'd be surprised how many "libertarians" think he is.

Assange is best ignored. He can only do so much being holed up in the Ecudorian embassy so he says these kinds of crackpot things every now and then to get attention. Both Assange and Snowden are nothing but attention whores, they can yammer on all day about how they're idealists, but idealists actually suffer for their causes, these guys just ran and can now only hide in third world hellholes because they burned too many bridges and weren't capable of planning things out well in advance.

TheXerox:Assange is best ignored. He can only do so much being holed up in the Ecudorian embassy so he says these kinds of crackpot things every now and then to get attention. Both Assange and Snowden are nothing but attention whores, they can yammer on all day about how they're idealists, but idealists actually suffer for their causes, these guys just ran and can now only hide in third world hellholes because they burned too many bridges and weren't capable of planning things out well in advance.

Neither the Ecuadorian embassy nor Russia are third world hell holes, even if Assange eventually makes it to Ecuador itself, it has plenty of fairly nice and modern areas.

I'd have thought Assange would be trying to keep a low profile though, hoping that the US and UK eventually stop paying as much attention so that he can just slip onboard a plane to get out of the embassy.

TuteTibiImperes:TheXerox: Assange is best ignored. He can only do so much being holed up in the Ecudorian embassy so he says these kinds of crackpot things every now and then to get attention. Both Assange and Snowden are nothing but attention whores, they can yammer on all day about how they're idealists, but idealists actually suffer for their causes, these guys just ran and can now only hide in third world hellholes because they burned too many bridges and weren't capable of planning things out well in advance.

Neither the Ecuadorian embassy nor Russia are third world hell holes, even if Assange eventually makes it to Ecuador itself, it has plenty of fairly nice and modern areas.

I'd have thought Assange would be trying to keep a low profile though, hoping that the US and UK eventually stop paying as much attention so that he can just slip onboard a plane to get out of the embassy.

Wikileaks just uploaded almost half a terabyte of encrypted files, named "wikileaks insurance" and are asking people to distribute it as much as they can. He knows the US gov is coming for him now that they're done with Manning.

TheXerox:Assange is best ignored. He can only do so much being holed up in the Ecudorian embassy so he says these kinds of crackpot things every now and then to get attention. Both Assange and Snowden are nothing but attention whores, they can yammer on all day about how they're idealists, but idealists actually suffer for their causes, these guys just ran and can now only hide in third world hellholes because they burned too many bridges and weren't capable of planning things out well in advance.

I think Snowden deserves more respect than Assange. Yes, they both leaked classified information, and in doing so might have "compromised American interests" (whatever that actually means). But Snowden knew exactly the consequences of leaking classified information (and was subject to more severe penalties due to having been entrusted with a security clearance), and he did it anyway. That doesn't make it right, but it takes a lot more guts than publishing a data dump from a naieve army private half a world away.

Emposter:TuteTibiImperes: TheXerox: Assange is best ignored. He can only do so much being holed up in the Ecudorian embassy so he says these kinds of crackpot things every now and then to get attention. Both Assange and Snowden are nothing but attention whores, they can yammer on all day about how they're idealists, but idealists actually suffer for their causes, these guys just ran and can now only hide in third world hellholes because they burned too many bridges and weren't capable of planning things out well in advance.

Neither the Ecuadorian embassy nor Russia are third world hell holes, even if Assange eventually makes it to Ecuador itself, it has plenty of fairly nice and modern areas.

I'd have thought Assange would be trying to keep a low profile though, hoping that the US and UK eventually stop paying as much attention so that he can just slip onboard a plane to get out of the embassy.

Wikileaks just uploaded almost half a terabyte of encrypted files, named "wikileaks insurance" and are asking people to distribute it as much as they can. He knows the US gov is coming for him now that they're done with Manning.

Or its more bullshiat from an attention whore.

And of course Assange likes Paul his stated goal is to harm the US and Paul and his idiocy does exactly that.

anfrind:I think Snowden deserves more respect than Assange. Yes, they both leaked classified information, and in doing so might have "compromised American interests" (whatever that actually means). But Snowden knew exactly the consequences of leaking classified information (and was subject to more severe penalties due to having been entrusted with a security clearance), and he did it anyway. That doesn't make it right, but it takes a lot more guts than publishing a data dump from a naieve army private half a world away.

Snowden is incredibly naive and I would call him out as a coward. And based on his public comments - he clearly isn't that bright of an individual and beyond knowing to leave the country (to China no less) - he clearly didn't think any of this through.

Too bad - the US government has been able to deflect from the material that he released and focus all the attention on Snowdens idiotic antics.

/don't get me started on the Guardian reporter that Snowden has been dealing with

gingerjet:anfrind: I think Snowden deserves more respect than Assange. Yes, they both leaked classified information, and in doing so might have "compromised American interests" (whatever that actually means). But Snowden knew exactly the consequences of leaking classified information (and was subject to more severe penalties due to having been entrusted with a security clearance), and he did it anyway. That doesn't make it right, but it takes a lot more guts than publishing a data dump from a naieve army private half a world away.

Snowden is incredibly naive and I would call him out as a coward. And based on his public comments - he clearly isn't that bright of an individual and beyond knowing to leave the country (to China no less) - he clearly didn't think any of this through.

Too bad - the US government has been able to deflect from the material that he released and focus all the attention on Snowdens idiotic antics.

/don't get me started on the Guardian reporter that Snowden has been dealing with

Well, it did prompt Obama to give an address and promise reforms on how information is collected from US citizens, so it did have some effect.

The problem I have with Snowden and Manning is that they both broke their oaths for the government agencies that employed them. While I think that's something possibly worth doing for the right reasons, having the courage to do it should also mean having the courage to face the consequences.

Assange isn't a US citizen, so I can't really fault him for being pissed off that the US is trying to get him.