"Cut bagels cross the line and become a prepared meal or food sold for on-premises consumption, which is taxable," explains Carla Yrjanson, vice president of tax research and content for Thomson Reuters. "Uncut bagels are typically sold for home consumption and would meet the definition of a (tax) exempt food in New York."

The worst part about this is that I read the above paragraph and said "Hey, that makes sense".

"Cut bagels cross the line and become a prepared meal or food sold for on-premises consumption, which is taxable," explains Carla Yrjanson, vice president of tax research and content for Thomson Reuters. "Uncut bagels are typically sold for home consumption and would meet the definition of a (tax) exempt food in New York."

So, sliced bread is a "prepared meal or food sold for on-premises consumption"??

North Carolina is contemplating about doing away with state income tax and taxing everything else to death.Not looking forward to the ridiculous outcome. Cost of living used to be low here, let's see what happens.

It's important to have all bagels altered. Feral bagel packs wreak havoc on any ecosystem, especially in riparian zones, where they are known to attack large fish like salmon, whitefish, and even the elusive neufchateel.

Trust me, this surtax is a good thing. But it doesn't go far enough. There should be a maamtax to cover the female bagels as well. The most dangerous are the fertile ones - you can tell them apart because, after mating, they are covered in seed.

"Cut bagels cross the line and become a prepared meal or food sold for on-premises consumption, which is taxable."

It's not a surtax, it's a sales tax. Once you have someone put together food for you, it is now prepared food and subject to sales tax. Don't like it, then ask for a whole bagel and a plastic knife, and cut it yourself.

/Same thing for a sandwich, you can order all the sliced meat and it's not taxed, but once you ask the deli clerk to put it between 2 untaxed slices of bread it now becomes taxed.

//what is the price of a bagel anyhow, like 40 cents? so someone is wasting their time biatching over an extra 3.2 cents?

cig-mkr:North Carolina is contemplating about doing away with state income tax and taxing everything else to death.Not looking forward to the ridiculous outcome. Cost of living used to be low here, let's see what happens.

Republicans take control of a state and want to replace taxes paid by rich people with taxes paid by poor people? This is my shocked face.

Gunderson://what is the price of a bagel anyhow, like 40 cents? so someone is wasting their time biatching over an extra 3.2 cents?

fredklein:"Cut bagels cross the line and become a prepared meal or food sold for on-premises consumption, which is taxable," explains Carla Yrjanson, vice president of tax research and content for Thomson Reuters. "Uncut bagels are typically sold for home consumption and would meet the definition of a (tax) exempt food in New York."

So, sliced bread is a "prepared meal or food sold for on-premises consumption"??

If you buy a whole loaf of it? No, the idea is that you will take it home. If you buy 2 slices of bread from a bakery, yes, they assume you are making a sandwich out of it.

I do wonder if you bought a dozen bagels in a bag, but asked for them to be sliced, would they tax it?

fredklein:"Cut bagels cross the line and become a prepared meal or food sold for on-premises consumption, which is taxable," explains Carla Yrjanson, vice president of tax research and content for Thomson Reuters. "Uncut bagels are typically sold for home consumption and would meet the definition of a (tax) exempt food in New York."

So, sliced bread is a "prepared meal or food sold for on-premises consumption"??

Two pieces of sliced "bread", filled with cream cheese and lox? Yes, it is.

cig-mkr: North Carolina is contemplating about doing away with state income tax and taxing everything else to death.Not looking forward to the ridiculous outcome. Cost of living used to be low here, let's see what happens.

Republicans take control of a state and want to replace taxes paid by rich people with taxes paid by poor people? This is my shocked face.

Gunderson: //what is the price of a bagel anyhow, like 40 cents? so someone is wasting their time biatching over an extra 3.2 cents?

Generally about a buck, maybe more ($1.50?) in the city.

And the Governor just shut down the Latino Affairs Office too. He's just tying to save the state from financial ruin.

Get a doughnut, scone, eclair, muffin, etc. unless they think they are clever by taxing singles. Then get more and be the cool guy/gal with breakfast for everyone. Show them where they can stick those 8 pennies.

Basily Gourt:The no income tax, no sales tax state of New Hampshire pulls stunts like this too.

Prepared foods are taxed at almost 10%. Nice surprise the first time you go out to eat.

15-20% tip + 10% sales tax.

Bon appetit!

Actually, the interesting thing is that food is not taxed (nor is rent or, obviously, taxes - which the whiny biatches claiming to be taxed 50%+ almost always miss; most of a normal persons income is spent on tax exempt items).

seniorgato:If you lose one customer over an $0.08 fee, you will never recoup it.

So you better be sure that 1) there are no alternatives around so you have a captive audience or 2) your bagles are so good that nobody will care about $0.08.

Lets be real here...its 8 farking cents.

Oops, wait, I forgot, NY. Cheapskates. The elderly ones who wander here to FL are even worse. They will complain about 8 cents, then you overhear them talking about all the rental properties they bought after they retired from NY or Michigan. On top of Social Security, pensions, etc. Old farks are loaded, yet act like paupers.

In LA, if you go to Subway and order a $5 sammich, they will ask you if you want it toasted. If you refuse, you don't have to pay sales tax. A lot of people don't know this and just assume sales tax is always charged. Basically, it's the application of heat that makes it prepared food. 10% of $5 is 50 cents, so it's actually a rather substantial amount (especially if you are buying four or five).

fredklein:"Cut bagels cross the line and become a prepared meal or food sold for on-premises consumption, which is taxable," explains Carla Yrjanson, vice president of tax research and content for Thomson Reuters. "Uncut bagels are typically sold for home consumption and would meet the definition of a (tax) exempt food in New York."

So, sliced bread is a "prepared meal or food sold for on-premises consumption"??

You mean like a sandwich? Yes. The distinction would also prevent a person from buying cut bagels with food stamps. The distinction is pretty much "meant to be consumed on premises."

duenor:In LA, if you go to Subway and order a $5 sammich, they will ask you if you want it toasted. If you refuse, you don't have to pay sales tax. A lot of people don't know this and just assume sales tax is always charged. Basically, it's the application of heat that makes it prepared food. 10% of $5 is 50 cents, so it's actually a rather substantial amount (especially if you are buying four or five).

Now what I have not tried this with is sushi.

I'm gonna call bullshiat. This may be true in some states, but certainly not NY or any I've been in .

I_C_Weener:And in New Jersey you have to pay someone to pump gas for you. Sigh. In my day, you cut your own bagels and you pumped your own gas.

I just learned this the other day, when my MIL came back from helping out the Red Cross in NJ. She said she never got a clear answer as to why this is...I just thought it was so weird. Thanks for reminding me, need to go look that up...

rogue_L_chick:I_C_Weener: And in New Jersey you have to pay someone to pump gas for you. Sigh. In my day, you cut your own bagels and you pumped your own gas.

I just learned this the other day, when my MIL came back from helping out the Red Cross in NJ. She said she never got a clear answer as to why this is...I just thought it was so weird. Thanks for reminding me, need to go look that up...

Exxon's corporate HQ is in NJ (or parts of it, or all of it used to be. Anyway, my dad used to work there) - I suspect it has to do with unionizing gas pumpers and/or corporate protectionism. Probably both, seeing as how that's how you get your shiat iron-clad protected from both ends.

Daniels:fredklein: "Cut bagels cross the line and become a prepared meal or food sold for on-premises consumption, which is taxable," explains Carla Yrjanson, vice president of tax research and content for Thomson Reuters. "Uncut bagels are typically sold for home consumption and would meet the definition of a (tax) exempt food in New York."

So, sliced bread is a "prepared meal or food sold for on-premises consumption"??

You mean like a sandwich? Yes. The distinction would also prevent a person from buying cut bagels with food stamps. The distinction is pretty much "meant to be consumed on premises."

1) No one stands in a NYC bagel shop, eating the bagel. So much for 'consumed on premises'.

2) If the distinction is "meant to be consumed on premises", then make the distinction actaully be "meant to be consumed on premises", and not "cut or uncut".