Like I said, there are some whites who could claim pure Roman decent, but for the most part the Romans were submerged into the people they conquered. They were outnumbered by them and it was impossible for them to rule over numerically superior non Romans. These non Romans were both white and non white.

Why don't you go and look at all non whites that saturated Northern Europe.
again what might have happened 2000 yrs ago would have no affect on the present day population of those countrys today.

You act that like this jew/afrocentrist Arthur Kemp was there when all this was going on and saw all this with his own eyes.

Arthur Kemp is either a closet jew or a paid provocotor of the jews, and his book should be banned from these web sites.

if you go into any public library you could find books by the bonofide historians I mentioned, but you will never find a book written by AK.

That's because he is not recognized as a legit historisns, he has as much credibility as the average afrocentrist.

I dont like this site because it plays the "miscgenation card" against Afrikaneers.
Just like the jews and negroes, and some people here, do against other whites.
Italian patriots always supported Afrikaneers and Apartheid!!!!

No your argument is flawed your using matarial to back up your ridiculous claims from a pseudo historian AK

In any case it is an excellent argument, as long as the people who created the civilization remain, their civilization will remain. If they disappear then their civilization goes with them.

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These were ancient times and many empires fall , the reason Rome fell were for many reasons and it was not from race mixing, their were small amount of blacks in Rome at that time, all the blacks that Kempo claims are lies and due to his own inherited ignorance that was conjected by your master AK.

I don’t know why you can’t grasp the fact that the Romans were outnumbered by whites and non whites alike. Not all of the non Romans were non white, but they made up a percentage, by your own admission their were non white slaves.

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No historian claims Rome fell from race mixing but Kemp.

That isn’t true, Tenny Frank from the John Hopkins University detailed the population change in Rome in his work ‘Race mixture in the Roman Empire’.

Edward Gibbon, in his work The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire estimated that at the time of Claudius in 43 AD were 120 million and out of that number 6,945,000 were Roman citizens. Look at the mathematics there, the Romans were greatly outnumbered. Not all of them were black Africans, that isn’t me who continues to say that, it is you.

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Japan came back because the Americans and British helped them to rebuild their country

It wouldn’t matter what the British and Americans did to Japan after the second world war…the Japanese remained so therefore their civilization remained as well. Look at Germany after the second world war, look at what the British and the Americans did to them, we destroyed their cities, art, economy etc abut they are still here…for now.

The things is Rome fell, nobody I know would argue against the fact that modern Italian culture is different from Roman culture. Benito Mussolini proved without question that Italy at that time wasn’t like ancient Rome, he tried to invade France but failed, he tried to invade Greece but failed…you see where I am going here? But in any case, you can’t say that I dislike Italian culture because Italy has always been one of my favorite countries, which it still is today along with Greece.

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As far as sickle cell goes, I never met any Italians who had sickle cell, and I know thousands of Italians, sickle cell has nothing to do with race, it caused by malaria, that's another smear that this South African mullatto AK uses to smear Italians, if Italians are not white then nobody in Europe are white, so stop repeatng the crap that your master wrote.
any Italians that have sickle cell are just isolated cases

Sickle cell anemia isn’t caused by malaria, it is caused by black African ancestry and I’m not saying all Italians are black, that is absurd. I knew it wouldn’t take long for the hypocrisy to kick in, I mean if I called you a ‘southern Italian mulatto’ you would flip out but then at the same time you refer to Arthur Kemp and other Northern Europeans as mixed race mongrels etc. What hypocrisy.

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So did the British and the French conquer many non white countrys. and that was present history and we all know the British and French race mixed.

Do you not know how to read? It has already been discussed that there was race mixing all over Europe and North America, it isn’t by any means just southern Europe. You are just talking nonsense right now.

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Listen I don't have to prove to some of you nordics that Italians are white or not when many of you have mongloid and other non white blood.

Romans and the Greeks were the most intelligent people to ever have settled in Europe, most people in the world know that.

Take your nordicism and shove it, nordicism is a myth created by deranged men

and stop implying that Italians have black blood and repeating the jew/nordic lie. you nordic mongrel

Here we go again, you scream Nordicism at others for talking about the obvious fact that the Romans were outnumbered by non Romans (you even provide sources to prove that fact) and then you accuse us of calling “Italians Negro’s, or ‘mongrels’ and at the same time you go and calling northern Europeans mongrels! So it is clear that it is you who is bringing up the mongrel nonsense.

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What might have happened which it did not,2000yrs ago would have no affect on the modern population of the people in those countrys today.

What I’m talking about is how ancient Rome fell, that is what I’m interested in because what happened in Rome is very similar to what is happening all over the West. I don’t judge who has non white over in Italy or anywhere else.

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Arthur Kemp is either a closet jew or a paid provocotor of the jews, and his book should be banned from these web sites.

I must admit this is kind of funny. A ‘closet Jew’? HAHA. If I were to call you a closet Jew then you flip out. Try to keep your skirt on throughout the rest of this debate.

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if you go into any public library you could find books by the bonofide historians I mentioned, but you will never find a book written by AK.

Thank you, I will do that. I will see that the Romans were outnumbered by non Romans… ( remember Edward Gibbons detailed that fact?)

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That's because he is not recognized as a legit historisns, he has as much credibility as the average

Oh, I’m sure Arthur Kemp could get a doctorate in history once Western academia considers race as a factor of history and politics.

Patrick isnt a patriot or a true American.
He wants to steal someone else achievements just like the negroes do in USA.
He wants to link negroids to whites to prove they built the western civilization.
He plays the "miscgenation card", just like the negroes and jews do in USA, they say: "all Americans have a NA or negroid ancestor in the last 4 centuries, so the racism is crazy".
He is trying to start flames and fights between white people.

Once again I must confess…this is hilarious. I have ‘Crusader’ and ‘The Crusader’ debating with me. It is like debating with dumb and dumber. And no silly Billy…I don’t not want to link blacks with whites. On the contrary, I want to demonstrate how they can destroy a white civilization. I use Egypt as a fine example.

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Ignore him: he isnt a nordic, he is a troll at best if not a jewish puppet.
I cant understand why his jewish anti-white propaganda is allowed on this board.

I don’t know, why don’t you ask Franz Boaz…HAHA. I wonder what JohnJoyTree thinks of this thread?