1. Shellie claimed that George punched her father in the face and that he had a "mark" and that it looked like his nose was broken. The police found no indication that the father had been struck. The father also declined in pressing charges for this phantom assault.

2. Shellie was on the phone with 911 when the police arrived on scene. She told the operator that the police were there and that George was in his car. The police say that George was standing on the lawn when they arrived.

3. Shellie claimed in the 911 call that George had his hand on his gun and was patting it, daring her to come closer. No gun was found on George. She then changed her story to say that she never saw a gun.

Somebody is going to jail, and it isn't George. Lying to 911 when on probation for lying to a judge is pretty farking stupid.

Dwindle:Zimmerman had every right in the world to follow that clown around, regardless of why he thought he was a threat.

So in your world something a person has the "right" to do is equivalent to something which is "smart" to do?You have the "right" to jump off a cliff... but is that the smart thing to do?Here's a clue: just because something can be done doesn't mean that it should be done.You might want to write that last one down.

There's good reason why the local cops tell neighborhood watch people to watch, but do not follow, do not approach, do not confront, and do not try to apprehend. Just watch and call the cops. Says so in the booklet he got from them. Zimmerman was too stupid to even follow those simple instructions, and murdered a kid.

You're as much a moron as he is, and I am thankful you're not in my neighborhood.

steamingpile:I think my point usually is that worry about shiat in your own community before biatching about shiat others do to people from your community. It makes it easier to take you seriously.

And this is why no one takes you seriously.

See, this isn't about any "community". It's about one cop-wannabe asshole who somehow got the idea that this boy was a suspect, and that he was the only one who could right the wrong of this obvious lawbreaker who had the nerve to walk down the street in the rain with his hood pulled up over his head.

The whole story is about people who not only exceed the bounds of their authority, but their mental capacity as well. Zimmerman was an idiot, an idiot who believed what he had been fed by the media about young black men, and who acted on that by leaving his truck and approaching Martin, thereby starting a chain of events which led to Martin's murder.

That said, if he has met all the requirments then I don't care if he is carrying.

I don't agree with it. I think they guy has a rambo complex but his mother in law changing her story makes me think that maybe she is just trying to get the guy in trouble because of his past.

Again I do not like this guy but that is no reason to deny him his rights.

If you had to use your weapon (jury said you were right) do you think you should lose that right?

I still think he murdered that kid. However the right wing has taught alot of believers that getting a good ol' fashion ass kicking = self preservation and justifies using deadly force.

Dude got his ass kicked for sticking his nose where it didn't belong because he thinks he is a tough guy.

I love my guns but using them does not make me John Wayne. If you cannot handle an ass kicking then don't go looking for one. If you are leagally armed AVOID any conflicts and by all means do not start one.

This guy got away with murder and should not be allowed to carry. But the law is the law and we must all respect it.

gimmegimme:Aren't you sick of paying for all of the police to deal with his multiple domestic violence incidents? The doctor bills for the cop he assaulted?

What domestic violence incidents? Oh, you must be talking about his ex-fiance claiming domestic violence in a request for a restraining order. Convenient that you leave out that George also requested a restraining order, that both were granted, and George was never actually charged with domestic violence.

cameroncrazy1984:Weatherkiss: If only we had a justice system that convicted criminals based on speculation, anecdotal evidence, and personal opinion delivered by internet lawyers none of this would have happened.

You're right, the evidence totally pointed to Trayvon starting the fight. Right? Hey, where are you going?

To get some popcorn for this thread.

/they were both assholes who could have easily avoided the situation to begin with

Hobodeluxe:Just so we have this straight. Shellie said in her 911 call that George was in his truck with his gun asking them to come closer.This was after the iPad incident and the alleged attack on her dad and just before the cops rolled up.this is the video of George surrendering to the cops when they pulled up. As you can see they've already instructed him to walk backwards towards them with his hands over his head.he's coming from his truck. he's in the street not the yard.also in this video you can see that George is taking pics of what she is putting in her truck. then he goes around and locks the door to the house. and exits from the garage. all the while Shellie is running around with the iPad recording him. then at about 2:45 left in the video you see her dad I'm guessing backing away quickly very defensively almost stumbling out of the garage. (george is in there with a friend of his who is huge by the way) then George comes out acting very aggressively holding his hand up near his shirt where a shoulder holster would be and motioning for them in a very daring way to come closer while Shellie is on the phone. He has the iPad and then takes out a knife and cracks it open then flings it. and walks back to the truck.

Looks like he removed and pocketed the SD card from the iPad too. Whatever it was she got him on tape doing he sure doesn't want anyone to see it.

Hobodeluxe:steamingpile: Mi-5: Curious that none of the GZ defenders from the nearless endless GZ trial are here right now. They've no answer for this latest GZ behaviour. So the guy basically uses his gun in any and all situations when he is merely "threatened" if you can call it that. So I guess the iPad had it coming because it was a deadly weapon that could inflict grievous bodily injury or death.

I'm shocked and appalled by their absence.

Except he didn't and its only mentioned because the attention whore wife kept saying it over and over again.

And I said thread over, everybody out!!!!

actually the cops have the iPad and are going to to forensic data recovery on it if they can.

He didn't use his gun and I'm guessing his coonty wife had the iPad in his face being coonty.

NightOwl2255:freak7: Casing houses after meeting some guys at 7-11 to sell some weed, but I get your point.

I'm guessing frep's alt. Has to be, he's the only one that's been farking that chicken for months.

Well, I heard that Zimmerman broke the iPad because his wife was going to release Zimmerman's special recipe for Purple Drank Meth. Whether or not you realize it, Zimmerman has spent the past couple months teaming with Chik-Fil-A to distribute the purest meth in the South. Where do you think all of this money came from? Zimmerman was out of work for several months and now he owns cars and a house and iPads and a massive bank account he might lose in the divorce. It's not like he got a 9-to-5 at Home Depot, dudes.

Millennium:skylabdown: Yep... it's a biatch. If you are going to convict someone in your own mind regardless of the court proceedings, why do we even engage the legal system anyway? You seem to be a better abattoir of right and wrong yourself, right?

Wash, rinse, repeat. The same folks who are crying about GZ being found not guilty are by and large the same ones who thought it was fantastic that OJ got off scot-free.. and visa-versa. What's your point?

The two groups aren't so different. OJ's supporters ignored evidence and decided based on emotion, just like Zimmerman's detractors. Flip this around, and you get both OJ's detractors and Zimmerman's supporters, deciding on evidence rather than truthiness. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

I call BS. Most of these Zimmerman fanboys here (trolls, Nabb1, Dow Jones, etc.) have made so many excuses for this piece of shiat, that they can't dis-invest themselves of him. They staked their political beliefs in a loser, and now they have to go down on the ship. Now tell me this, it's been about two months since his acquittal and he's been in trouble with the police three times and been in the news at least 6 times. Does this sound like some average Joe Citizen, or some braying asshole looking for a confrontation?

BTW, at least most OJ defenders cut bait with him when he proved to be an attention whore. Did I think he was guilty? Yeah, but if you're going to assume that the Zimmerman jury was impartial, then do the same for OJ. Hell Casey Anthony had the decency to stay out of the public eye after her trial. But keep on defending him - he'll be in prison in two years at this rate.

freak7: Somebody is going to jail, and it isn't George. Lying to 911 when on probation for lying to a judge is pretty farking stupid.

I happen to know, based on thousands of Zimmerman threads, that 911 is not only no authority but it is perfectly legal to ignore them outright. I can then feel secure in knowing that lying to them means nothing.