Hi Lily,Yes, I agree with you that Satan's final deception is his personation of Christ after CoP. (I used to think however it was before until I found the quote.) Before the close he is deceptively behind the scenes with the image of the beast. The final personation is to bring on the death decree of the saints....around the 5th plague I believe.

Remember when EGW was given her vision of 4 hours about the GC? Satan struck her and tried to kill her so she could not reveal his plans? While I don't put 100% stock in my all of a sudden faulty printer, I do think that Satan is behind the scenes trying to block any truth that helps us all go forward in our understandings of end time events.I'll try and find it..... trouble again.....

Well, when I opened the file where I knew I had saved valuable info on this subject and it corrupted and I had to shut down.... I have since now made a copy and a new file so hopefully it will work here...

Lily,You make a good point too that what would this information matter to us at that point in time..... I don't know but I do know this that any truth that God has given us must be a faith builder at some point....

Tammy, I cannot change the font or color anything for my posts on this forum, have tried clicking on the icons above the message but nothing happens.

Lily, I put the quote in a quote for you....to do that all you do is to type the word "quote" with a bracket before and after the word "quote" like this [ ] (don't put in the little "" marks around the word "quote") and then at the end of the quote, retype the word "quote" and put it in brackets with one change [/ ]. Then to change the color, highlight what you words you want in color, and look up at where the big capital A is with the black line under it.... when you are writing or editing the post, hit on the A, and a box will come up with lots of colors.....just choose your color, and whatever is highlighted will be that color.

Well, when I opened the file where I knew I had saved valuable info on this subject and it corrupted and I had to shut down.... I have since now made a copy and a new file so hopefully it will work here...

That is because you copied it from WORD or some other program....if you copy it direct from the EGW Database, it will copy/paste with no problem.

Hi Cp. I'd be really interested in your thoughts after reading the SoP quote I just posted: I'm taking it to mean that the personation occurs after the CoP. It is interesting that Satan's prime focus seems, from this quote, to be to deceive the very elect, not just to receive direct worship from the world. The personation of Christ is all about a final, desperate attempt at deceiving the saints. Satan already has the rest of the world on his side - he won't give up until he has every last soul ensnared, especially the prize gems. Elsewhere I have read, too, that he does not know when probation has actually closed, that even when the saints are sealed in the sanctuary, Satan is still hoping to be able to deceive them when the game is actually over. The personation occurs at a time when the saints are anticipating and pleading for God's divine deliverance. Satan times his master deception when he thinks he can deceive the elect through seemingly answering their prayers. It must be an overwhelming deception. If the saints were not sealed prior to the personation of Christ, could it be that the saints would be at greater risk of finally falling?

What really jumps out at me in the above passage, is that the saints do look on at the deception "in amazement". We imagine that it would be easy for the saints to shrug off such a deception, because they have been been forewarned...but they are actually "amazed". This is spine-chilling to contemplate! As with the tree of knowledge of good and evil, the saints will need to avert their eyes from the bewitching, personating Christ.

Lily;

I would like to say first that this is not a view I am dogmatic about. In other words I will not do battle over this one. The strongest evidence that this deception would happen after the Cop is that it would be his "last deception" and "his crowning act." That may seem conclusive that it is after the Cop. It could be only after the Cop. Here is something to consider though. It will happen more than once because we are told he will appear in various parts of the earth. Since Satan is not omnipresent it must be at differrent times. We are not told how far a part these times are. In regard to the last deception I consider that this may be talking about "Satan's" last deception on a personal basis? I don't know how long the plagues will last but consider they may be a year or less. The Sunday law will butt up against the plagues. I believe it is possible that Satan's last deception and crowning act will appear near the end of the Cop and again during the plagues. I believe Satan knows as much as we do about the close of probation. When the plagues are falling probation is over. Unless none of God's people know when the plagues are falling Satan must know as much as they about this. I don't like to put it this way but if I were the devil I would want to take my best shot before God has said that probation is closed and all have made their decision. Of course, we do not know how much God allows before probation closes. Time will tell but if we are adamant that when Satan appears probation has closed we might become confused if the plagues are not falling and Satan appears as christ during the NSL period.

I appreciated your thoughtful post, Cp. You make some good points. My understanding (present : ) is that the plagues fall over roughly a one year period. And that there may be a "small" space of time between the actual CoP and the outpouring of the plagues. So far I have not come across anything in the SoP about whether Satan is still parading around the planet as Christ whilst the plagues are falling. If anyone has any extra info or insights on this I'd be interested. But I guess it could be presumed that he will be around until the second coming.

It is an interesting thought that the CoP will occur like a thief in the night. No one will know that it has happened, not Satan, not the lost, not the sealed. Once the plagues are falling it will be apparent that the CoP has occurred.

When I contemplate the end-time scenario I am sensing that the small details, which may not seem to matter much now, will matter for God's people at that time. That it will be spiritually beneficial to be able to anticipate the sequence of events.

What I am understanding from the quote Newbie provided, is that the world is ready to receive their king (Satan) as the second coming. They have made their decisions, are already fully deluded (none in the valley of decision.) It is spinechilling to even try to imagine the world at that time, to have the false Christ masquerading among the massive throngs of people across the globe.

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