<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>What have you done to defeat these animals that kill children, rape women, torture men?<p><hr></blockquote><p>Which "animals" are we speaking of? Human beings, right? And from which nations? Because I see killing, rape and torture coming from ALL sides. <br><br>What do I do? I take the side that does not condone this type of behavior.<br>[color:red]DEFEAT</font color=red>? No. I give my support to organizations that promote support. The only people who will be defeated are children—all children, in the US and abroad, my children/your children. I teach mine not to hate, that people living on foreign soils are NOT inherently enemies. Perhaps if we make it that far, the next generations can change this self-defeating cycle. "an eye for an eye" NO. I volunteer with this group http://www.theirc.org/. Internationally they have a lot of great programs, for example Better Safer World. Other ways regular, busy/working class people can make a difference:<br><br>http://www.amnesty.org/actnow/<br><br>http://hrw.org/<br><br>http://www.workingforchange.com<br><br>http://www.volunteermatch.org/<br><br>And, yes, part of my personal agenda is spreading the word that the current administration in the white house needs to go—before we all die because of their actions.<br><br>I read this earlier from MacCentral:<br>If you read nothing else today, read THIS.<br>http://www.livejournal.com/users/throwingstardna/515980.html<br><br>I do not imagine you will read it, or if you do, that you can comprehend it.<br><br>There is a large world outside of middle class white suburban america, you should check it out sometime. You might learn something.<br><br>

"Graphic new photographs and videotape of the abuses at Abu Ghraib prison including images of dead Iraqis, prisoners being brutalised, tortured and forced to have sex, and female detainees being forced to expose their breasts have stunned members of Congress who saw them in a secure briefing room on Capitol Hill."<br><br><br>sexual abuse is not rape? ok, so i guess actionable items does not equal a plan in your world either?<br>another link<br>"Lawmakers said on Wednesday images showed inmates apparently being coerced to commit sodomy, wounds possibly from dog bites, a number of dead bodies, and examples of "sadistic torture" and "sexual humiliation.""<br><br>

Let's not forget that even things like homosexuality and even nudity is greatly offensive to the Islamic culture, so just to walk these prisoners naked around their cells could be considered to be 'abuse'...<br><br><br><br>[color:red]You slap my back, I'll slap yours!</font color=red>

Just did a search of Rumsfeld's Armed Services testomony and the word "rape" is not in the transcript.<br><br>Now, Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican of South Carolina did tell the press before seeing the additional photos that they would contain evidence of murder and rape but now that senators have view them I see no such mention of either murder or rape.<br><br>Dean Davis

again:<br><br>"Lawmakers said on Wednesday images showed inmates apparently being coerced to commit sodomy, wounds possibly from dog bites, a number of dead bodies, and examples of "sadistic torture" and "sexual humiliation.""<br><br>

<blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>I do not imagine you will read it, or if you do, that you can comprehend it.<br>There is a large world outside of middle class white suburban america, you should check it out sometime. You might learn something.<p><hr></blockquote><p>There is is again, that smug I'm soooo superior to everyone attitude. No one that disagrees with you could possible have a brain. I'm sooo worldy and your soooo dumb.<br><br>It's statements like these that truly reveal a persons true intellect.<br><br>Dean Davis

From that EXACT link in your post...<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p> Lawmakers said they did not see examples of outright rape, murder or abuses of children.<p><hr></blockquote><p>Also...<br><blockquote><font size=1>In reply to:</font><hr><p>sexual abuse is not rape?<p><hr></blockquote><p>No, its not. Rape is a violent form of sexual abuse but the contrary is not true.<br><br><br><br>Dean Davis

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