The point I was making is that you can install drivers all day but if the hubs by a certain brand simply reduce anything plug in to the 2.0 mode then you end up needing to wait or shop around for something better. No matter how good the drivers are if the hardware stinks you end up in tuff spot.

With hubs I've ran into that enough times where some self powered or not simply won't even allow Windows to detect anything plugged into them. Go with another brand and suddenly everything works as it should! In the last few years the better but not as expensive as others CyberPower 4 port hubs with an ac adapter have worked like champs.

I'm still waiting to find the newer 3.0 hubs that should coming along sooner or later however likely after 8 is already out. Then I will be looking at their 7 port hubs as well as any 4 port 3.0 models. But since hubs fall under pc accessories manufacturers simply push them out fast on the market without worrying about quality unlike OEM pc or other hardwares where reviews make their days for any newer model series.

The point I was making is that you can install drivers all day but if the hubs by a certain brand simply reduce anything plug in to the 2.0 mode then you end up needing to wait or shop around for something better.

Bad point. He said he tried a few 3.0 models and none worked @ 3.0. For probably the 5th time in this thread: Installing the NEC drivers is needed, along with alleviating bsods.

Why are you trying to disable quality help or acting as a barrier to it?

regkaz accurately summed up the exact same problem outlined in the article I pointed to earlier. He also had mentioned ordering more then one of the same brand from newegg which is the main reason he could expect to see the same problem with each of them.

Originally Posted by regkaz

I should add that the hub hasn't died since my clean install of Win 8 64 bit with no additional USB 3 drivers. It's only the issue of USB 3 devices plugged into it running at USB 2 speed.

Besides the hub you use I've also found that certain brands of flash drives for example will also be a factor at times to look at. For the 2.0 flash drives some will hardly even work at all or run at the 1.1 speed over others that act normally.

You can also expect this to be the case with 3.0 drives and devices as well where some simply won't run at the anticipated 3.0 speed regardless of how good or bad a hub may be. Besides that the speed any bus is rated at is the maximum you can attain under ideal conditions not the always to be seen speed.

You can apply the same to seeing a Sata 3 drive transferring data at the Sata II speed at times on that type of bus. If you are transferring a large file or a large number of files the speed will tend to slow down since you are placing a larger load on the bus itself.

As far as the crashes you are seeing the memory dump files if any as well as any blue screen information will be helpful when you start another thread in the crash support section. Those tend to provide a wealth of information for diagnostic purposes.

OK, I yield for now. Not sure if I should mark this as solved or wait another week.

I've finally got it working. After all the BSODs from my first install I was afraid to use anything but the default Win 8 drivers. This time I skipped the Win 7 chipset drivers and ONLY used the most current NEC (not Renasis) Win 7, 64 bit, USB 3 driver.

It was initially a little flaky. On the first reboot it hung the system. After that cleared it had issues waking from sleep mode where it would re-find my USB 3 hard drive but then rapidly refresh the window with a "not responding" message. I lost explorer.exe for a few minutes on that one.

For the last few days it's been much better. It stopped "finding" the hard drive upon waking and now lists it properly in My Computer. My Corsair USB 3 16 gig flash drive has been parked in the hub and running at true USB 3 speeds. All appears well.

One other thing I could mention as to why a 3.0 ready drive would drop to 2.0 when plugged into any hub would be the need to see it plugged into a port. This is typical of illuminate keyboards as well as other devices link many printers that tend to pull heavier on the bus.

One other thing I could mention as to why a 3.0 ready drive would drop to 2.0 when plugged into any hub would be the need to see it plugged into a port. This is typical of illuminate keyboards as well as other devices link many printers that tend to pull heavier on the bus.

If the pc is setup properly, and the hub is designed to work @ 3.0, there is no issue.

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