Serving as a creative opposite thread for the successes, I say we let this thread be about your tankadin gripes/emos/tantrums and what not, to let it out. Allow me to start:

I've been part of over many a Nightbane kill, and not once has he dropped that blasted shield, but that's not the worst of it.

The other pally tank and the two Warrior tanks in my guild already have it or better.

Not long ago, a run I had to cancel for had the shield drop and the MT of that raid already had the Aldori Legacy Defender... not only could they not DE it, they VENDORED IT!

And, tonight, when we were supposed to hit Gruul's, but several of our DPS had to cancel, so, we went into two kara groups to see who could get the farthest the fastest.

And you guessed it, not only did it NOT drop for me, but it dropped for him again, and they gave it to a DPS warrior that will never spec protection!! ( granted, he will use it for OTing, but I'm still very frustrated.)

I am a sad and angry panda at the same time, possibly doomed to be eternally stuck with the Crest of the Sha'tar.

iliya wrote:Serving as a creative opposite thread for the successes, I say we let this thread be about your tankadin gripes/emos/tantrums and what not, to let it out. Allow me to start:

I've been part of over many a Nightbane kill, and not once has he dropped that blasted shield, but that's not the worst of it.

The other pally tank and the two Warrior tanks in my guild already have it or better.

Not long ago, a run I had to cancel for had the shield drop and the MT of that raid already had the Aldori Legacy Defender... not only could they not DE it, they VENDORED IT!

And, tonight, when we were supposed to hit Gruul's, but several of our DPS had to cancel, so, we went into two kara groups to see who could get the farthest the fastest.

And you guessed it, not only did it NOT drop for me, but it dropped for him again, and they gave it to a DPS warrior that will never spec protection!! ( granted, he will use it for OTing, but I'm still very frustrated.)

I am a sad and angry panda at the same time, possibly doomed to be eternally stuck with the Crest of the Sha'tar.

Spend a few weeks in arena and pick up MGSW. It's a sideways step from Gruul's IMO. You will still want the NB shield 1) because it looks frackin cool and 2) it makes a good BV shield but you'll probably end up using MGSW for a while. I love mine.

"then somehow people manage not to see the forty fucking foot tall of fucking fiery flames of fucking doom ... and we wipe." - Isolfr"It turns out that a large number of people are whiny motherfuckers ..." - PsiVen

I've been in line for the last 3 pieces of t6 prot set I need, don't want helm, for a few weeks now and recruit after recruit keep ninja'ing it even though the officers generally 1) defer loot to members and 2) generally defer tanking upgrades to me over other offspecs even though I'm holy 70% of the time.

I finally picked up the legs tonight making it my 7th t6 item, but only 2/5 prot set, the 2pc is nice, but I'm still really really looking forward to 10% consecration damage =[

some of the rogues in my raid are probably the worst rogues all over the world.
being outdamaged by me (tanking..) at kargath heroic or our beast masters' pets in mh might be worse enough, but they also lack any sense of movement and take every chance to die in a rain of fire or cleaves.

at least I get blamed for this rogue-dps thing.. "there is no sunder armor on the mobs tanked by the paladin! we can't dps there". yeah, that would explain your 700 dps, being fully buffed sitting in a group with all possible supportthingies (wf, drums, shout, feralcritstuff, and so on).

sometimes I get a slight feeling that our raid lead has to open recruitment for rogues again.

NEVER being allowed into SSC or TK unless we happen to be doing Tidewalker or Solarian...and even then, i only get to tank those two bosses...never anything else, im always just sat outside waiting for them...

secondly, the odd times i DO manage to get in on a TK raid, im stuck healing in A'lar and im not allowed to go first on the tank rotation on VR...

Never going to get an epic flying mount because every spare bit of gold goes to getting the best tanking gear I can (DMC:V, powerleveling engineering, SSC BoE patterns, etc) to prove to my guild paladins can tank, too.

Canuun wrote:Never going to get an epic flying mount because every spare bit of gold goes to getting the best tanking gear I can (DMC:V, powerleveling engineering, SSC BoE patterns, etc) to prove to my guild paladins can tank, too.

I did exactly the same thing. A non-epic mount for a tank who's gearing up is a badge of pride.

a in-game "friend" informed me that his guilds wanted a tankadin and he tought i was gonna be their man for the the job. He and the GM told me it was no problem i was undergeared and that they were gonna spend time into gearing me up for TK/SSC asap. Yet all i have done so far is tank trash and adds on illhoof.....kinda starting to annoy me since i know i can do better than that. But i get the feeling they only listen to people that are completely decked in epics. I'll see how it goes in the future.

On the bright side of things: got 3 upgrades and T4 quality healing shoulders from curator since i've joined em

being in a guild that i absolutely love, but being ignored as a tank for every single thing except tidewalker and alar, i would gquit if not for the fact we are actally progressing fast, but after i get some loot it's new guild time for me

Rolling a 1 for the [Fang of the Leviathan]. Then being too tired/frustrated to run ZA afterwards where of course, the eagle boss drops his mace. Which goes to a tree druid alt. 0-for-2 on tanking weapons that night...

Now you think: "Woa, that's some hardcore damage there"
But noooooooooooo the warlock said incinerate is better than shadow bolt!(He had Improved Shadow Bolt talent)
But nooo the mage was frost and forgot he has fire spells!(Nto sure how much of a limiter for burst this is)
The shaman was okay but undergeared <.<

And all of them, without exception, couldn't atack the tanks for the love of their lives. none of them would, after 2 or 3 seconds of channeling, interrupt their casts to attack the tank before the boss(we just have to kill him faster! - Kalitresh at 70%)
I *had* to beat Kalithresh by tanking through a full enrage! In heroic!And only after I made a macro to spam "ATTACK THE TANK" in /rw, swapped the warlock for a guildie hunter(that alone did half of the damage to the tanks, always), and told the healer(priest) to smite the tank too for the first channeling! /cry

Sometimes I hate pugs so so much...

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Elennira wrote:NEVER being allowed into SSC or TK unless we happen to be doing Tidewalker or Solarian...and even then, i only get to tank those two bosses...never anything else, im always just sat outside waiting for them...

secondly, the odd times i DO manage to get in on a TK raid, im stuck healing in A'lar and im not allowed to go first on the tank rotation on VR...

Rehlachs- wrote:some of the rogues in my raid are probably the worst rogues all over the world. being outdamaged by me (tanking..) at kargath heroic or our beast masters' pets in mh might be worse enough, but they also lack any sense of movement and take every chance to die in a rain of fire or cleaves.

at least I get blamed for this rogue-dps thing.. "there is no sunder armor on the mobs tanked by the paladin! we can't dps there". yeah, that would explain your 700 dps, being fully buffed sitting in a group with all possible supportthingies (wf, drums, shout, feralcritstuff, and so on).

sometimes I get a slight feeling that our raid lead has to open recruitment for rogues again.

Why bring a rogue?.... level engineering, seaforium charges and have a mage to sheep. No rogues required.

Amirya wrote:... because everyone needs a Catagonskin rug.

twinkfist wrote:i feel bad for the Mogu...having to deal with alcoholic bears.

After months of work, and proving the viability of the spec, I am now the victim of my own success. Tankadins are getting a dedicated raid slot, and the guild is recruiting another tankadin, even though my attendance isn't an issue.

After months - literally - of looking for a raid that works around my suckjob schedule I find one. A month of main/offtanking later and I gquit to join their guild as it is going so well. Two weeks later they vote to change the raid times so now I cannot go.

I follow this tanking forum where it's currently in vogue to say "you missed the point" whenever someone disagrees with you.

It has this impossible-to-ignore whiff of "you must not have understood what I said, for none who grasped the import of my pronouncements could but be instantly converted", and I'm frustrated that I can't throw angry housecats in the faces of those who abuse it.

/endrant. Thanks, I feel better.

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Arcand wrote:I follow this tanking forum where it's currently in vogue to say "you missed the point" whenever someone disagrees with you.

It has this impossible-to-ignore whiff of "you must not have understood what I said, for none who grasped the import of my pronouncements could but be instantly converted", and I'm frustrated that I can't throw angry housecats in the faces of those who abuse it.

iliya wrote:I am a sad and angry panda at the same time, possibly doomed to be eternally stuck with the Crest of the Sha'tar.

Pfft, you call that frustrating? Try this one on for size.

The Ashes of Al'ar. A 310% speed mount, the fastest you can get in the game, and a very very unique look. Only drops from Kael, a boss that most guilds will kill less than a dozen times because he's such a pain. A large number of guilds (including mine) use a merit system to hand it out since, really, it's just a status symbol.

On Monday we were running low on tanks. My main char is a DPS warrior but I have a prot pally on the side. To humor me, they asked me to bring my pally along on a TK raid. (we're 4/5 MH 5/9 BT so it's old content to us) It was a nice run, I picked up the bracers off of VR and the ring from trash, so a couple really nice upgrades.

We get to Kael. I'm assigned to tank one of the advisers. Was a bit hectic (I was assigned to Thaladred even though I have no fear break) but we dropped Kael on the second try.

The ashes dropped, and my guild leader informed me that they wanted to give it to me for all the recruiting I've done, and setting up the DKP system, etc, but they didn't feel right giving it to an alt, so he had 2 other officers who do a lot of out-of-raid work for the guild roll on it.

Call it a hunch, but I think you're far more likely to see a shield upgrade than I am of seeing another Phoenix mount drop.

iliya wrote:Serving as a creative opposite thread for the successes, I say we let this thread be about your tankadin gripes/emos/tantrums and what not, to let it out. Allow me to start:

I've been part of over many a Nightbane kill, and not once has he dropped that blasted shield, but that's not the worst of it.

The other pally tank and the two Warrior tanks in my guild already have it or better.

Not long ago, a run I had to cancel for had the shield drop and the MT of that raid already had the Aldori Legacy Defender... not only could they not DE it, they VENDORED IT!

And, tonight, when we were supposed to hit Gruul's, but several of our DPS had to cancel, so, we went into two kara groups to see who could get the farthest the fastest.

And you guessed it, not only did it NOT drop for me, but it dropped for him again, and they gave it to a DPS warrior that will never spec protection!! ( granted, he will use it for OTing, but I'm still very frustrated.)

I am a sad and angry panda at the same time, possibly doomed to be eternally stuck with the Crest of the Sha'tar.

I knew (yes knew past tense) how you feel, 4 months as a tank, every time i didn't go gruul the shield dropped, every time I didn't go kara the shield dropped, same ZA 2 shammys 2 holy pallys a shadow and a holy priest and a feral druid (incase he goes balance) have the smegging mace from the 2nd boss, they always in the other group that went and never my group, it became a matter of laughter in the guild.

Until this week, me and feral druid in group, 1st ever run to get timed chest of first boss, no warrior and the shoulders drop !!! omg iam happy so smegging happy, 2nd boss drops nowt we do halazzi next no good drop then dragon hawk's turn, we wipe a few time's then bamm he goes down and lone behold the shield drop's and i'am dancing round my front room like a madman. Raid caps, instance resets that night.

The next day i give my slot up for a feral druid come back after a night out and get teased by mates, yup you guessed it the dam mace dropped, my mate a mage really takes the micky i am not happy, they capped with 4 boss's down, cue tonight the warrior who went can't go connection is playing up so i get kidnapped
Hex lord goes down only our 2nd ever hex lord kill, raid moves onto Jin wipe after wipe after wipe after wipe, mage mate leaves as getting late and we already an hour past cap time, replacement is a rogue, after a few more wipe guild gets 1st ever Jin kill and lone behold the smegging sword has dropped the only other person who could of used it has left so i get it no questions asked.

So tonight i am one very happy paladin and bonus points for being able to tease my mate the mage back in the morning as he been telling me since the instance came out how much he wanted that sword.

Sorry for the wall of text but had to post it too show you there is light at the end of the tunnel you just got to wait it out sometimes.