Lewis Hamilton has won the Brazilian Grand Prix, but it wasn't until Verstappen spun due to contact with a backmarker that he took the lead to victory. Verstappen ended a furious second, narrowly ahead of Raikkonen and Ricciardo.

He had the luxury of having full access to "mad mode" on his PU, of course. It does rather show what the cars could do if they were allowed to by the rules. I remember Hamilton saying he was very tired after that run through the field, and I remember people claiming he shouldn't be as it was easy to do as the car is so good etc. What it showed was that these cars could, if allowed to, be too much for the drivers to drive flat out for a full race distance. I watched a video of the driver of the Porsche 919 Tribute car - he said that the car is difficult to drive and manage and that the driver is the limit, not the car. In F1, the rules have made the car the limit rather than the driver. I'd love to see them just all be allowed full access to the PU for the whole race. I bet we'd see mistakes in the later stages as the drivers basically got too tired to manage.

Turbo says "Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools." oh, and "The Dutch fans are drunk. Maybe"

He had the luxury of having full access to "mad mode" on his PU, of course. It does rather show what the cars could do if they were allowed to by the rules. I remember Hamilton saying he was very tired after that run through the field, and I remember people claiming he shouldn't be as it was easy to do as the car is so good etc. What it showed was that these cars could, if allowed to, be too much for the drivers to drive flat out for a full race distance. I watched a video of the driver of the Porsche 919 Tribute car - he said that the car is difficult to drive and manage and that the driver is the limit, not the car. In F1, the rules have made the car the limit rather than the driver. I'd love to see them just all be allowed full access to the PU for the whole race. I bet we'd see mistakes in the later stages as the drivers basically got too tired to manage.

I wouldn't say that they should drive at the max of PU. It has to last more then a race. I just don't the like the way the tyres are done. Managing the tyres from lap one it's an absurd. Teams spend so much Money to gain performance, and when the race comes, they have to race like they were a sunday driver.

I wouldn't say that they should drive at the max of PU. It has to last more then a race.

Lack of overall pace (compared to maximum pace in the car if all constraints were removed) is as much because they have to mange the life of the PU and gearbox as it is about the tyres. The tyres don't help, of course, but the teams wouldn't run flat out even on tyres that could allow them to. The teams would still have to balance PU / gearbox life against pace. Sure, one could argue that they'd put more effort in to making the PU and gearbox more robust, but then they'd likely lose some of the performance too. Then there's the fuel limitation to remember too. If they ran flat out for the whole race, they'd all run out of fuel after an hour!

Turbo says "Dumpster sounds so much more classy. It's the diamond of the cesspools." oh, and "The Dutch fans are drunk. Maybe"

He had the luxury of having full access to "mad mode" on his PU, of course. It does rather show what the cars could do if they were allowed to by the rules. I remember Hamilton saying he was very tired after that run through the field, and I remember people claiming he shouldn't be as it was easy to do as the car is so good etc. What it showed was that these cars could, if allowed to, be too much for the drivers to drive flat out for a full race distance. I watched a video of the driver of the Porsche 919 Tribute car - he said that the car is difficult to drive and manage and that the driver is the limit, not the car. In F1, the rules have made the car the limit rather than the driver. I'd love to see them just all be allowed full access to the PU for the whole race. I bet we'd see mistakes in the later stages as the drivers basically got too tired to manage.

Not to stray off topic, but I have only ever felt this way one time driving a road car. Everything else that I drive seems pretty boring, more or so in a sense that I only ever slow down either because I run out of room, or someone gets in my way. Only once have I ever been the limiting factor in a driving situation. Pretty surreal feeling, makes you swallow your nuts for sure.

But I think this is a interesting concept. Would be neat to watch drivers spin/ make mistakes from being pushed to hard by another driver. Sounds cool.

He had the luxury of having full access to "mad mode" on his PU, of course. It does rather show what the cars could do if they were allowed to by the rules. I remember Hamilton saying he was very tired after that run through the field, and I remember people claiming he shouldn't be as it was easy to do as the car is so good etc. What it showed was that these cars could, if allowed to, be too much for the drivers to drive flat out for a full race distance. I watched a video of the driver of the Porsche 919 Tribute car - he said that the car is difficult to drive and manage and that the driver is the limit, not the car. In F1, the rules have made the car the limit rather than the driver. I'd love to see them just all be allowed full access to the PU for the whole race. I bet we'd see mistakes in the later stages as the drivers basically got too tired to manage.

I wouldn't say that they should drive at the max of PU. It has to last more then a race. I just don't the like the way the tyres are done. Managing the tyres from lap one it's an absurd. Teams spend so much Money to gain performance, and when the race comes, they have to race like they were a sunday driver.

The tires are not the problem. The penalty you pay for a pit stop, and the subsequent drive though traffic is!

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Merc used old spec 2 engines for Mexico, so we can expect them to run absolutely wild with much newer engines in Brazil. The WCC is still up for grabs.

well, "old" in terms of the specification, yes, but the Spec 3 was introduced in Monza, so that's 5 races since then and not that much of a difference in milage compared to the Spec 2 they introduced in France (even less so for Bottas, who got a new one in Silverstone).