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Batty: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off
the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the
Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be lost in time... like tears in
rain... Time to die.
--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgaro...@...> wrote:
>
> DP,
>
> Why on earth would anyone be worried about death? After all you won't be
> around or conscious to experience it! Remember you were dead before you were
> born. Do you worry about not being alive before you were born? Of course not.
> Then why worry about being dead after you're dead? Same thing exactly. You'll
> be in exactly the same state, or rather no state at all. Death is entirely an
> illusion and an illusory fear.
>
> And even if you are still worried about death the best answer to that is
> simply to immerse yourself completely in the present moment and enjoy it and
> forget death. After all death doesn't exist. That is your death will never
> exist for you. All that will ever exist for you is life!
>
> Edgar
>
>
>
> On Aug 29, 2010, at 9:11 PM, DP wrote:
>
> >
> > I will check them out. I appreciate your words. I guess I was frustrated
> > with other zen groups, where I only received vague platitudes and
> > rhetorical questions along the lines of "why be afraid of death?" Which I
> > understand but have a problem implementing.
> >
> > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Rose P <things_rose@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi DP
> > > Â
> > > I've read your posts and the replies you've gotten with interest. I don't
> > > have much information, zen wise,Â to offer with regards death and the
> > > fear of it, although I do *get* where you're coming from. Some of the
> > > others will hopefullyÂ post on this subject perhaps. What I have found
> > > extremely useful is the site www.dharmaseed.org. I try to listen to at
> > > least one talk a day. In terms of repetitive, troublesomeÂ thoughts,
> > > there are some fairly good talks given by a teacher called Gloria
> > > Ambrosia. I've only been using the site for a month or so, so I'm sure
> > > there's a wealth of other stuff on there that could be checked out, and
> > > might be of some use.
> > > Â
> > > Take care,
> > > Â
> > > Rose
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 8/29/10, DP <dave.dplatt72@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: DP <dave.dplatt72@>
> > > Subject: [Zen] Death
> > > To: Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 2:59 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > Â
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ARe there any good meditations I can do which helps me deal with my fear
> > > of death? I just finished Thich Nhat Hanh's No Death No Fear, and I liked
> > > it, but I feel such a hard time getting around the idea of continuance -
> > > it's too much for my materialist mind. So maybe I need a different tack...
> > >
> > > How do I confront the reality of death with the aim towards lessening my
> > > fear of this?
> > >
> >
> >
>
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