With automatic lock clickers today, if you've unlocked the passenger side - it means you already unlocked the driver's side (1 click driver's door, 2 clicks all doors) So.....my smart ass would wait until you're just about to open your door......and quickly lock it on ya - lol---------btw.........nice you open the door for your date but they let you get to first base for that? women must be easy up there in Buffalo

If you did that to me Frenzy then I would know that you want me in your pants. But I would still wait til the next day.

Second: I dont do auto/remote lock clickers. On a first date, I use the key, open the door, wait for her to be seated and shut the door. Oh and by the way, I always get the kiss before its time to go back to the car.

If she doesnt kiss you on the first date, then she isnt interested, so dont bother planning a second date.

Nov 17, 2007 @ 4:01 PM

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In_a_Frenzy

Posts: 512

If you did that to me Frenzy then I would know that you want me in your pants

I don't wear pants

But I would still wait til the next day

wow - a whole day.........you are a man of great restraint

Second

What was first?

I always get the kiss before its time to go back to the car. If she doesnt kiss you on the first date, then she isnt interested, so dont bother planning a second date.

Always? Then how would you know that if she didn't kiss you on the first date that she isn't interested? Apparently it hasn't happened to you - cos you always get a kiss. Seems like quite an assumption of non-kissing first date women that there would be disinterest on their part. Maybe they had too much garlic at dinner?

Always? Then how would you know that if she didn't kiss you on the first date that she isn't interested?

You know what I mean.

Seems like quite an assumption of non-kissing first date women that there would be disinterest...

What is a non-kissing first date woman?

Nov 17, 2007 @ 8:55 PM

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In_a_Frenzy

Posts: 512

What is a non-kissing first date woman?

A woman who knows what she is looking for. A woman who believes that a kiss can be a more intimate exchange between two people.......and isn't going to go around kissing every first date she has. A woman who knows that intimacy can interfere with her decision making process of whether the man is really worthy of something longterm. Just a guess.

I can't say that sex on the first date is a bad thing because half of my best relationships started out as first-date/meeting bangs...heck, usually don't even have to take them out on a date...one of the girls I'm seeing now I first met at a Halloween party back in 2005 and we did it in the woods about 2 hrs after we first met. The other one I'm seeing got naughty in her driveway the first time we met...note that both of these gals are not particularly into sharing, but don't seem to mind the open dating policy...we all get what we need and if someone wants to get exclusive...that's discussable. Sometimes the chemistry is TOO powerful

On the other hand some of the best relationships have been those who I've been friends with while dating other gals and then once I'm a free agent...they take their ride on the Jungle James every woman is different and I let them decide when to go for it...I just don't make it particularly difficult for them to make their move

Nov 18, 2007 @ 1:58 PM

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In_a_Frenzy

Posts: 512

Thanks Suz!---------

Sylvan, WHAT kind of women do you have up there?????

Well, Im 38 never married, no children, and not involved in any committed relationship. So, that ought to give you an idea

You didn't answer the question -----------Shrek........I don't even know where to begin responding. I guess it would depend on your definition of "relationship" - but sounds like you have (and it's a term I hate) "friends with benefits". Re-read Sylvan's definition of dating...........If either of these women wanted to discuss "exclusivity" with you - how much of a discussion would there be? "Open dating policy" basically means "I don't want to commit". Which is fine.....if both parties were on board with that......but you even admitted that

both of these gals are not particularly into sharing, but don't seem to mind the open dating policy...we all get what we need

I wouldn't confuse that as being a "relationship". Seems like you get exactly what you want. Majority of women are not happy in that kind of situation....but some will take what they can get because of self-esteem issues or they're hoping they will be able to change the situation. What they don't realize (or want to admit) is that the situation won't change.........because the guy doesn't have respect for them. To use a cliche: "Why buy the cow if I can get the milk for free." as for your closing statement:

On the other hand some of the best relationships have been those who I've been friends with while dating other gals and then once I'm a free agent...they take their ride on the Jungle James every woman is different and I let them decide when to go for it...I just don't make it particularly difficult for them to make their move

Shrek - I thought maybe I was slamming you above....then I saw you posted this in another thread:

95% of women are submissives anyway and one has to be able to WORK that angle

I stand by comment #2.

Nov 18, 2007 @ 5:13 PM

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GSpotGina

Posts: 16

That depends where you meet your date, how you talk with them, etc. If you meet someone from a site like this, the expectations are what they are. Even for those who are looking for someone highly sexually oriented as a lifetime partner, they should at least be clear and forthcoming for them not to have any expectations the first date. That it's strictly meet and greet.

to nawtikitty -- right on the spot -- Maybe it's my ego -- But I guess I just think they like me -- but then some guys think (hell -- anybody that would EVER fuck me would fuck ANYBODY anytime -- ie "i'm a sleezeball -- so only a slut would do it" ) Am I on to something here ?

Nov 18, 2007 @ 7:25 PM

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In_a_Frenzy

Posts: 512

That depends where you meet your date, how you talk with them, etc. If you meet someone from a site like this, the expectations are what they are

I half agree with you Gina. If it's online "dating" I don't think it matters what site you meet.......and 8 times out of 10........the people here or other sites like this are at the tamer sites too. Personally, I'm skeptical of online dating - seems to me that men have very little respect for a woman who advertises herself online - double standard cos they're here Ever since I moved to Floriduh, dating has been a nightmare........whether I met the person online or out in person......it was all about them quickly trying to seal the deal. It wasn't this way in NY *sigh*

Frenzy, again i have to agree with you. i dont know if i am getting older, but it seems like men do not respect women these days. somehow, in this thread, i am picking up the feeling that Sylvan doesnt really respect women either. He seems to think that we are cheap and slutty (sex on the first date) or dumber than a box of rocks.

You're kinda right suz. But you have to remember that my view is that all of society are dingbats until they prove otherwise. General respect is something I show automatically as a personable person. After that, respect is earned. And Im pretty sure thats how most people approach it, not counting the dingbats.

As far as personal relationships whether friendship or intimate, Im fine with admitting that I am a really picky person.