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Americans also know - on some level - that Congress is almost all corrupted by money, which is why popular opinion has near-zero impact on law. The system has become ossified to the point where no one expects anything else. I know for certain I wouldn't trust any of my representatives for ****. Unfortunately the two-party system really churns out crap candidates in Michigan, at the local/state level especially. This place is a goddamned wasteland politically, even by US standards - kinda expected when the state is literally run like a dictatorship.

When I did take civics I don't think the EC tie came up, or I forgot that part. Then again I was in a school for ****ed up people so it's not like we were expected to learn anything.

I get that hispanics and blacks absolutely loathe Trump, but there's one big snag - turnout. Old white people show up in droves. Hopefully this year will see minority turnout increase but I could see a nightmare scenario where Johnson voters switch en masse to Trump and Clinton's national polling lead evaporates.

I should take another look at state-by-state polling and see where Trump can pick up states that pundits won't believe. Very possible MI will flip red, the stupidity is strong here.

I think he will smash the Caucasian vote and polling underates him. With the Dem electoral college advantages, I don't see how he wins even with the rust belt. Imo

With Trump flipping MI (possible but unlikely with current polling), OH (likely because polls underrate Trump), and FL (possible) and the Romney/Obama 2012 map otherwise, the EC is tied 269-269. I don't think PA or WI would flip republican. Don't know of other states likely to flip (maybe IA? very white state). Holding Romney's red states is the big if due to Trump being an assclown, but there are lots - lots - of people sick and tired of Obama.

Flipping those three though is something I see as very possible. I can never have faith in Michiganians to do anything right, because Michigan sucks.

No one expects fair elections any more. There's significant evidence of straight-up riggage. We're still supposed to assume that elections are fair, though.

I've been thinking from a conspiracist point-of-view though about the outcome of this crapfest. I'd imagine a Trump victory would be sufficient cover to bring on the worst neoconservative excesses, blame "the people" for electing Trump, and further train Americans to accept rotten, horrible centrism out of fear. Either way, the powers that be have America on lockdown... Trump and Clinton are good friends and connected to the same shady actors (look up Jeff Epstein).

Current polling is useless. The percentage of people who respond to survey on a land line is below 1%. I am not sure how the author collected the data for that figure, but the number is low. The same article said that almost 20% of old white ladies will answer a survey on a land line. Polling data was useful and predictive 30 years ago. Now it is nearly useless.

The Rethugs just keep finding new ways to rig the **** out of elections...

It's painful to read reddit and all the CTR shills pumping up HRC, entirely oblivious to just how disliked their candidate is by the general population. You wouldn't have this **** with Bernie, hell you wouldn't have it with almost any Democrat. I have never seen someone throw away so many opportunities to win an election as HRC has, all because she insists on pretending this is still the ****ing 1990s.

I'm calling Ohio and Florida as Trump wins. It's very likely my prediction can come true, and we're in for an absolute ****show.