Well, Scotty didn't even think of it as a punishment. Who started that fight? At least Scotty finished it.I also liked the episode By Any Other Name where Scotty gets the Kelvin alien gunned out of his head with that old bottle of scotch.

It's also disrespectful to the original effects artists. The guy who toiled to create that model spaceship and make it look as good as he could. "Sorry, guy, your work may have entertained thousands of people back in the sixties, but it's not good enough for us now. Into the scrap heap it goes."

I loathe the revisionism of art, literature, whatever. Whether is it scrubbing old books/films for "modern sensitivities", removing cigs from old photos, or messing with Trek's cool 60s look, it is just offensive. Leave it alone.

^That kind of annoys me. People were up in arms when Lucas did the same thing with Star Wars, but no one seems to care about Trek. There's nothing wrong with the original effects. They were a product of their time and they don't make the show less enjoyable. Why do we feel the need to keep updated and redoing things? Would you go back and add sound to a Charlie Chaplin film just because we can?

^That kind of annoys me. People were up in arms when Lucas did the same thing with Star Wars, but no one seems to care about Trek. There's nothing wrong with the original effects. They were a product of their time and they don't make the show less enjoyable. Why do we feel the need to keep updated and redoing things? Would you go back and add sound to a Charlie Chaplin film just because we can?

It would not be so annoying if the remastered FX were an alternative! But they are not! There is no alternative with the new box sets but to see the show with all the CG!, and that includes any laser effects from phasers and other things too I noticed. I know on YT many fans have put on their own new FX and they look good but of course thats just fans having fun with a series they love, now Paramount are making it impossible to relive the good old 60s with all the clunky FX.

^ probably the reason people aren't complaining as much is because what Lucas did to SW is nothing like what they did to Trek, which was to simply give a very careful and tasteful update, 'facelift' if you will, to an old show that deserved it (as ACR points out, it gives the show a somewhat 'modern' quality that is subtle but there) ; Lucas didn't just update a few key scenes, he forever altered an entire saga often with material and visuals that defy any sense of taste or even sanity.

Lucas certainly made sure people would forget the old saga and embrace this new enhanced version with all the CGI and that is rather a kick in the bum for all te old fans who grew up with it like me. i am glad at least the old versions were released before they fade to obscurity.

In Treks case it is a simple facelift as you state, but I still long to see how it looked in the 60s and there is no way unless one buys 2 box sets. Even the Blu Ray could have added the old versions of effects but it seems once again that inorder to gain a new generation of fans we have to resort to CGI. Give e a good old clunky scene with real models anyday. However that said I still really enjoy returning to these old series and seeing brand new upgraded FX. A Youtuber dedicated a clip to them too

^ probably the reason people aren't complaining as much is because what Lucas did to SW is nothing like what they did to Trek, which was to simply give a very careful and tasteful update, 'facelift' if you will, to an old show that deserved it (as ACR points out, it gives the show a somewhat 'modern' quality that is subtle but there) ; Lucas didn't just update a few key scenes, he forever altered an entire saga often with material and visuals that defy any sense of taste or even sanity.

^That kind of annoys me. People were up in arms when Lucas did the same thing with Star Wars, but no one seems to care about Trek. There's nothing wrong with the original effects. They were a product of their time and they don't make the show less enjoyable. Why do we feel the need to keep updated and redoing things? Would you go back and add sound to a Charlie Chaplin film just because we can?

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