I just thought that I'd point out that you can surf outside Turnback Cave with no music. What I did was I used Rock Climb, then immedietly got onto my Bike, then rode up to the water and press A (to surf). This all happened in a period of about 4 - 5 seconds, and I surfed around on the pond with no surfing music. It seems to only work the first time you try (I've done it twice), and this is for Diamond. ~Takhareon 01:00, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Hm... Maybe we should get another source... Anyone? CuboneKing 01:16, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I've heard of situation around Spring Path where riding the bike causes the music to stop, but I couldn't get it to work. Can you repeat it? If not, it might just be dust jamming the system or something. --SnorlaxMonster 01:22, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

I could make a video and YouTube it, if its neccesary, but yeah, it might be the game having trouble handling all the action, rather than a glitch. ~Takhareon 01:40, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Well, a video would be good, but all I wanted to know was if it could be repeated. --SnorlaxMonster 01:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, what I meant was: I've had this happen to me on two separate occasions (different days). The glitch occurs, then I try to repeat it (get off the pond and repeat the steps taken) and it doesn't seem to work. So it only works sometimes. I'll try to make a video, anyway. ~Takhareon 02:01, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Glitch with supereffectiveness using a move normally not very effective

What

Also, the Kecleon Glitch article page should not be deleted because articles about glitches should always stay on there. Pokedex493 18:40, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

The article tells you exactly what it is. Also, the article should be deleted and the content paced on list of minor glitches. The whole purpose of that page is to stop pages like this from being created. --SnorlaxMonster 01:39, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Cause

Note: This is based somewhat on presumed data. I'm pretty sure the game does this though.

Couldn't the cause of this come from the Kecleon only aiming for whoever its item or attacked it? If the Pass Scarf causes it to attack the enemy, the chain reaction would then cause it to act as a team member, as Kecleon's data causes it to be on the opposite side of the one it attacked. Since the enemy is then defeated, Kecleon follows the team to the next floor, but doesn't go farther than this because the game would only make it act like a team member, rather than being one. Turtwig'sA-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 12:23, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

That seems right to me. That's basically how I thought it worked too. --SnorlaxMonster 12:52, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

That seems right to me too, but I've never tried this glitch before, so I don't know. Pokedex493 23:04, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

'Cause it's not a glitch. It's with all Pokémon that battle the player (barring Run Away when HP is low). ht14 00:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

There's a difference. Those will still attack, not just follow the player. Not to mention that the Kecleon are faster than the team, and can easily be able to defeat it. Never activated it before either though. Turtwig'sA-B-Cs (talk | contribs) 00:37, 11 September 2010

Discussion regarding potential deletion

This article has been marked for deletion. I'm not really in a position to give my opinion here... it seems just as notable as plenty of other glitches we have/have had articles on, but at the same time, it is sort of walkthrough-ish. Personally, I think all glitches with the exception of a select few should be merged into one article for all the glitches in each game, with subsections for each glitch. That's just me, though. Discuss. The article will likely be deleted within the next week or two if no convinving arguments are presented. --PoLi 19:35, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, that is kinda what list of minor glitches is for, and what is really wanted is that it remains there but doesn't get its own page. However, having specific glitch sections on the articles of the games themselves is a good idea. --SnorlaxMonster 00:43, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

To me, this seems better suited to the list of glitches as opposed to just deleting it or giving it its own article. --ZestyCactus 00:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

So you can just walk on top of it without a collision? How do you appear on top of it?

Can you link to a video of this please? I'm interested. --SnorlaxMonster 10:42, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Basically if you fight him from the left hand side the Silph Scope item ball appears in that same spot but remains invisible because of the priority of the player's sprite until you walk away. You can also stand on a boulder in Gold/Silver via the same stand on a tree method from Red/Blue and jump from a ledge and land on a person in Vermilion City.

Interrupting certain sound effects can cause minor 'oddities' such as these (try playing Electabuzz's cry immediately after Jynx's for instance). There is a related 'music doubling trick' where a 'sound effect is playing' flag doesn't activate the first time but I haven't been able to replicate it. --Chickasaurus 16:37, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Raimon Gym Trainer glitch

Could the glitch occur with Rich Boy Roland? Seeing as both him and Lady Colette are the only trainers are in the roller coaster cars, Roland could possibly be able to trigger this glitch. Also, can you still talk to Colette while she is on the track or does the game act like she is not there after the battle? - unsigned comment from Super goku (talk • contribs) 21:18, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Grass next to stairs glitch

Should it be added to the list? If it does, can someone do? My english sucks. :/ •●MΣƬΛПG●• 21:21, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Marowak Ghost Glitch

Is there any proof that the Marowak Ghost-Pokedoll event is actually a glitch? Considering you can use a Pokedoll on pre-Scoped Ghastly to end battles, it doesn't seem likely that it is really a glitch. After all, the Marowak Ghost is still coded as a Pokemon, just an uncatch-able one. Scorponis 19:23, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

For me it is a glitch. First for bypassing a major event, second because it doesn't occur in Firered/Leafgreen versions. •●MΣƬΛПG●• 20:47, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Poké Radar

I noticed that when I have a chain of Pikachu on my Poké Radar in the Trophy Garden on my Pearl version, and I go into a spot on the edge of the grass, even if a Pikachu turns up from it, my chain ends. I am using a Max Repel to block all other Pokémon, and have a high enough level in my first slot for the Repel to work. Should this glitch be on here? EnosShayrem 15:37, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

If you walk 7 or more steps to find a pokemon with radar the chain can break. Not a glitch. OwnageMuch 03:31, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

R/S/E Walk on water glitch

There is a glitch in R/S/E where if you press B at the right time while entering the Seafloor Cave, you'll be asked to resurface while you're over its entrance. If you choose to do so, the game will put you on a rock in the water (not technically a water tile), so you'll be on your feet and able to walk on the water. Video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB4qqYYy7nc
I have tried it and I can verify that it works. Good for adding? Frezgle 21:45, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes. (Oh hi Frezparce, I think I've seen you before from HoO forums) --Chickasaurus 21:48, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I was there for a bit a while ago d: And, it's added. Frezgle 00:33, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Selfdestruct/Explosion audio glitch: Winning via a sacrificial move in Generation I plays the victory theme even though you black out (fixed in Gen II)

Substitute glitch: Using Selfdestruct/Explosion on a Substitute will break it but not faint the user, the picture of the user disappears (Gen I)

Breaking through Paralysis/Burn: Increasing or decreasing the appropriate stat breaks through the drop (e.g. Agility when Paralysed breaks through hindering effect of Paralysis) (Gen I)

Its possible to combine moves like Reflect and Barrier/Light Screen and Amnesia to roll-over 1023 Defense/Special Defense and consequently end up which much lower defences due to the larger number modulo 1024. (Gen I)

A few glitches from PRAMA initative, like this walking Pikachu one [4]

If a user's regular Ditto transforms and the player switches the transformation away to a shiny Pokémon the transformation momentarily appears shiny. (G/S) (need to verify)

A shiny Ditto transforming into another Shiny Pokémon makes the transformation a normal Pokémon until DPPt (need to verify)

If you Pal Park a Pokémon with an accented name (from in-game trade from another localization) there's no support for the character when it reaches Gen IV (turns into a Japanese character instead) (thanks Blaziken257)

I don't have a video, but it says here that any ball can miss in Gen. I. Pokabu82 22:58, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

Route 9 Biker Glitch (Gen V)

This is probably a glitch, but it might be something done on purpose for whatever reason. I've only noticed this on Route 9, where two bikers are riding back and forth, but when you hold down B, they speed up. I'm in the process of checking whether this applies to other moving trainers or just them. --JRBockus 06:06, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

False Thief Glitch

Is this actually a glitch? If kelcon calls a price, I don't think so. It's like if someone drops an apple core on your lawn, it's yours, right? But if you just pick it up, forget what I said. Focus58 22:19, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, it is, because you don't get a choice whether or not to buy it, you just pick it up. --SnorlaxMonster 14:32, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Trapped in Solaceon Town

In Platinum version, I was trapped in Solaceon town for some odd reason. I just started from the last save, and as I was riding my bike up through Solaceon town, I hit an invisible barrier right where the border is to route 210. I rode back and then tried again to get to route 210, and it let me through. I noticed this glitch wasn't listed, so I wanted to know if this has happened to anybody else. --☆FiMbUlWiNtEr2O|2☆ 14:26, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Black Belt Glitch

What I don't understand is the whole reasoning behind it. First of all, how can consecutive spaces result in something like

D n i
o e n...

unless the program was something like

Opponent1::Say("D n i\n o e n...");

which would have made it intentional. Secondly, the letters are aligned correctly, something rare in glitches. If it was caused by spaces (the ASCII 0x20 variety) wrapping around like the HP bar in the Pomeg Glitch, ZZAZZ, Super Glitch (?), etc., even if it is a restricted text window (which is unlikely given the device type), the ' ' and '...' would have also alternated the line, resulting in

D n n
o e i ...

Thirdly, it could be a sort of joke among the programmers. What other 'phrase' do we know that follows this pattern?

P M
K N

So, once and for all, is it actually a glitch? I can't wrap my head around how it could (although there are some other glitches far more confusing). Or is it just an error in the coding, not related to consecutive spaces? (Driftveil's... Old... Lady... comes... to... mind...) In any case, the "glitch" either needs more detail or the detail present is incorrect. --TruePikachu 05:46, 24 June 2011 (UTC) (and yes, I am aware the game uses a variable-width font, not monospaced)

I think the glitch is that he can sometimes also say really random text? Or do I understand it wrong? OwnageMuch 10:01, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't personally own Platinum; I quoted the phrase from the supplied video. --TruePikachu 20:13, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, he said Done in like in the video when I battled him. I don't think he ever says anything random—people just didn't see Done in. I think there was something on this on a GCL wiki page. Unfortunately, it's not archived. --SnorlaxMonster 16:22, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

TM67 Retaliate not a glitch????

Are you sure that's a Dark-type TM sprite? It looks an awful lot like a normal-type TM.

Defining 'minor'

This page is probably starting to get too large again, like what happened to glitch a long time ago. Why are things like the Pewter Gym skip, experience underflow glitch, 0 PP underflow glitch and no stone evolving glitch to be considered minor, and where should we draw the line between minor and 'normal'? --Chickasaurus 19:39, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

...as in not minor, but not major either. --Chickasaurus 19:57, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

My plan is to split this up into "List of glitches in Generation I" etc., with even glitches like the mew glitch listed, but with main article links. Since you brought this up, I'll probably do it today (I've been planning to do this for months now). --SnorlaxMonster 01:38, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Pokémon Center terrain

I was playing Blue version in a Gameboy Advance and the cartridge shifted a little bit, and when I walked inside of the Pokémon Center it was all jagged and I could only walk in certain areas. Is this notable or is it just some random thing?SONICバリヤ 04:04, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Pretrty much anything can happen if you shift the cartridge. OwnageMuch 05:27, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Oak Lab glitch?

I remember a few years ago (and I recently began to try it again) that when you are first at Oak's lab he will always ask you to choose what Pokemon you want. I found a neat but weird glitch where if you try to leave the lab he will call you back (nothing unusual). However like the Bike Glitch if you keep pressing B then after awhile the game glitches and you are unable to do anything. Don't know if this has been mentioned though... Frozen Fennec

OK so I just tried this again a moment ago. Apparently pressing B while trying to leave will make you and Prof. Oak disappear and the game unplayable. Frozen Fennec

That sounds interesting. Any chance you could upload a video? --SnorlaxMonster 14:15, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Where am I going to upload it to? But yea, used to do this glitch a lot when I was younger because I thought I could skip out on getting a starter. Not sure if this glitch can be done on an emulator. Found a video of it, pressing start afterward brings you right back, lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iAF20EdMiUFrozen Fennec

It's true, and its a legitimate glitch from long ago. It works on a real Game Boy, on Red and Blue. Though despite what PRAMA Initiative say it doesn't seem to work on Pokémon Yellow. You don't have to spam B, just keep closing the menu and holding down and it'll eventually glitch out. I read last year about a similar trick within the S.S. Anne itself, but I can't remember it unfortunately.

You can also 'read' while pointing away from a bookshelf or scroll. The moment you press A, simply turn away. This can also be used with NPCs, to make them turn away but not talk to you.

Well, if either of you could write a section about it, I'd appreciate it. --SnorlaxMonster 11:04, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Expanding upon the Shiny Ditto glitch

Perhaps there should be mention that it works on any Pokémon who uses Transform, not just Ditto? I haven't tested any of this out, but I heard you can get a Shiny Mew this way (as long as during the Mew glitch, you make sure that the Pokémon with the Special stat of 21 know Swords Dance and you let the encountered Ditto use Swords Dance at least twice, which will make the Mew that appears be over level 10 and able to use Transform). I've also heard that Shiny Pupitar, Tyranitar, and Lugia can be obtained this way (the Ghost forme, Kabutops fossil forme, and the Aerodactyl fossil forme MissingNo.s inherit attacks of the last Pokémon viewed, so view the Pokédex entry or stats page of a Ditto before the encounter and each of those MissingNo.s will be able to Transform... so get them to Transform into your Shiny Pokémon and catch them). When these three MissingNo. formes are traded over to Generation II they will become Pupitar, Tyranitar, and Lugia (if the game allows the trade... sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't). Dannyjenn 00:14, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

In Generation I and II all Pokémon that use Transform turn into Ditto. This normally isn't a problem, because Mew (normally) can't be found in the wild, but if you get a Pokémon like Spearow to Mirror Move Transform, it will also turn into Ditto. --Chickasaurus 00:25, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

So you're saying that Shiny Mew and Shiny MissingNo.s would be impossible this way? Just wondering because I heard that someone has done it before... however, like I said, I never tested it so I have no idea if that person was lieing. Dannyjenn 00:33, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately not, I don't think so. I haven't tested this particular glitch either, but I know out of experience that all Pokémon in Generation I and II which use Transform turn into Ditto upon capture. Presumably, it copies both species values (i.e. it becomes a stable Ditto all the time) but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. The shiny Ditto glitch works because transforming copies a Pokémon's DVs, therefore the opponent "transforming into your transformation" copies the DVs of the shiny Pokémon you used from Generation II. In Generation II, shiny Pokémon are determined by their DVs.

Change Magikarp into Mew (Pokémon Green)

I recently added a glitch that turns a Magikarp into a Mew. Someone deleted it. Why is that? Is it because I never posted a discussion about it before editing the page? Sorry, I'm new... I don't exactly know the protocol of adding content to pages. If that's the reason, could someone let me know? Are we supposed to discuss everything before making major edits to the page? I just figured since it was a glitch with no mention then it'd be fine to add. Dannyjenn 00:38, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Team rocket teleporting member glitch

So in Pokemon Blue I'm at Safforon city and I got into the Pokemone center then exit. I make Red walk left and then up when the path turns and then right when the path branches off. I walk right and then talk to the team rocket member that says "Being evil makes me feel so alive!" I then walk past him and go forward till I'm in front of Silph Co. The team rocket member that is supposed to be sleeping next to the door is a few paces from his position. Going up to talk to him will make him warp back to the place at the door and likewise waiting a bit will also make him warp to the door. It is possible to stand on the place where the team rocket member was and then have the player standing on top of him. I don't know if this occurs just in Blue and Red versions so I was wondering if someone could possibly find out and then add it. Minor Notes (talk) 22:01, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Invisible Oak Glitch

It's listed twice on the page and even the description is exactly the same in both. Արիանո 07:34, 19 January 2013 (UTC)