Tate also makes another rather odd remark about Chris, which of course conflicts with what Whip has been telling us lately;

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Good chemistry is an integral part of making records like that. Although there have been detours throughout Queensryche’s longevity, do you think Chris Degarmo and yourself will ever get together and write music again?

Tate: Yeah, I would like to do that and tried many times over the years. Chris had moved on to a different lifestyle, a whole different way of living now. His head isn’t in it. He’s really become a different person. I don’t see any high hopes of anything coming about in the future.

We see each other probably once a month- play golf, have lunch. Every time I get together with him I always say you got any songs, you want to work on something, and he says, “Eh, I haven’t picked up the guitar in 3 years, I’m not really in that space anymore.”

So Chris hasn't picked up a guitar in three years (despite playing at the Seahawks game in '11) and despite him "still having the fire" and "having a hard-drive full of music" he's done with one of his two passions?

"Hey do you wanna see a movie this weekend?""Nah, I...don't really watch movies anymore. In fact I haven't been to a theatre in years.""I just saw you at Fast and the Furious 6 last weekend.""Oh, yeah, well aside from that..."

We see each other probably once a month- play golf, have lunch. Every time I get together with him I always say you got any songs, you want to work on something, and he says, “Eh, I haven’t picked up the guitar in 3 years, I’m not really in that space anymore.”

I don't know that even in the beginning I felt an obligation other than to myself to love music and write music. I still do both of those. I love music and listen to music all the time. I still write as well. As far as it being shared, that is more complex. I've continued to write a bunch of music and I have a personal obligation to my creative self that hasn't changed. Whether it will ever see the light of day in a listenable form for others ... that remains a question mark. I'd like it to happen though. I'm sure someone would appreciate a listen. It's not out of the questions.

At 3:10, he talks about how he wants to put out a record every 6 months: "I don't wanna wait two years to put out a record...I wanna talk about what's happening now." As soon as the interviewer suggests something more immediate, like a single on iTunes or digital EPs, Tate poo-poos the idea and says he's "old school" and that it's all about money. Is that enough for submission into the contradiction thread?

And then the video suspiciously cuts to a conversation about the Mindcrime tour.

Tate also makes another rather odd remark about Chris, which of course conflicts with what Whip has been telling us lately;

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We see each other probably once a month- play golf, have lunch. Every time I get together with him I always say you got any songs, you want to work on something, and he says, “Eh, I haven’t picked up the guitar in 3 years, I’m not really in that space anymore.”

Chris seems to be playing a lot of golf lately; with Wilton, with Tate... I wouldn't be surprised if pictures of people wearing a button saying "I play golf with Chris DeGarmo" will be the next internet meme

Geoff's well-documented history of lying and contradicting himself gives me absolutely no reason to think he has the "relationship" with CDG that he claims.

My own 2 cents on this; this is one lie that Tate feels safe with because I feel he believes that Chris isn't going to come out and set the record straight. So if there's no one to come out and call bullshit on Tater ( and Chris would be the only one to do it on this) Vest can keep selling it as gospel. With all the rest of it, I think even Tater realizes that this whole thing has basically gotten to a level of awful that it doesn't matter whether he tells the truth or continues to spout BS. Those who don't like his dishonesty and call him on it have more than enough to prove his full of excrement, and those who are going to support him; well, if they haven't fled at this point, they're pretty much lifers. Oh, Mebert, that's just gross

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"Pinky, are you pondering what I'm pondering?" " I think so Brain, but where are we going to find a duck and a hose at this hour? Narf"

I'm just surprised (I shouldn't be) that Tate has the balls to say that he and Chris still talk and they eat lunch/golf once a month.

Now we're not privy to their relationship but I doubt him and Chris speak... at all.

In the link posted earlier DeGarmo does state: "I'm still on good terms with anyone. I didn't leave on any bad terms. We're still connected and communicating.", so FWIW I can believe he has at least maintained a cordial relationship with Tate. However, I think it's telling that in said interview he mentions having tried Whip Ale but not Insania - make of that what you will.

As to their exact relationship and as to whether or not CDG has been fobbing Tate off about making music with him I wouldn't like to even guess. It's seemingly impossible to know whether or not Tate's lying through his teeth these days.

My own 2 cents on this; this is one lie that Tate feels safe with because I feel he believes that Chris isn't going to come out and set the record straight. So if there's no one to come out and call bullshit on Tater

I think that's a VERY good point, rukh. Let's assume Chris and Tate have gone out to play a round of golf (I mean, who hasn't, amirite? ). If they've talked about the court proceedings, Chris could've just said "look man, I've got nothing to do with this. QR is an old job I don't have any interest in anymore, so I'm not gonna come out and speak out about it in support of anybody." And so Tate would figure he could say whatever he wants about Chris as long as it isn't completely outlandish.