Thursday, June 4, 2015

The Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate priests should ask Cardinal Robert Sarah, Prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship, if all priests, including the FSSP priests, can offer the Traditional Latin Mass assuming A is not an exception to B. 1

Is it obligatory to offer Holy Mass in all rites, assuming A is an exception to B, he must be asked. Can a priest offer Holy Mass and say Vatican Council II does not contradict the rigorist interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church ? A in Vatican Council II does not conflict with B.

When A does not contradictB then Vatican Council II is pro-Fr.Leonard Feeney and contra cardinals Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani and Richard Cushing.

Presently for the magisterium and for Cardinal Sarah and also for the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) , A contradicts B.The Vatican Curia accepts Vatican Council II with this irrationality and the SSPX rejects it. Even the FFI reject it.

If A does not contradict B then the FFI could accept Vatican Council II and the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Presently the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary (MICM) Worcester,USA, Catholic traditionalists, reject Vatican Council II (A) and accept the rigorist interpretation of the dogma (B).They have full canonical status unlike the SSPX . For them too A contradictsB.

Could the priests of this community of Fr.Leonard Feeney also offer the Traditional Latin Mass if they said that Adoes not contradict B ? Cardinal Sarah accepts their Feeneyite version of the dogma along with a Vatican Council, which they reject as non traditional and opposing the dogma.

For them A must be followed by the baptism of water. So let us designate this asA + i.e being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire followed by the baptism of water, in a manner known only to God.2A+ is still compatible with B. It is not in conflict.

Both A and A+ are theoretical and speculative cases for us. They can be known only to God.So they are not relevant or in conflict with B.

The SSPX General Chapter Statement 2012 also indicated that A is not an exception to B.Is the General Chapter Statement acceptable for Cardinal Sarah as expressing sound theology and doctrine, to offer Holy Mass?

For the Fischer More College in the USA, A contradicted Bso they rejected Vatican Council II. For the bishop of that diocese,A contradicts B. So he expected theFischer More College to accept Vatican Council II with this irrationality.

For Tom Mohniyan's Ave Maria University in the USA, A contradictsB. So the theology professors are granted a mandatum approved by the bishop.If university and school children in Detroit said Ais not in conflict with B would they have to recant to keep studying? May be students would have to do so at the Legion of Christ universities in Rome.

If I went to Cardinal Sarah's office in front of St.Peter's Square, Vatican and asked him about this, his secretary would tell me it all depends on the bishop.Fine. But how would Cardinal Sarah and his priest-secretary offer Holy Mass ? With A as an exception to B?

-Lionel Andrades

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(A) those who who are saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16, a ray of the Truth (NA 2),imperfect communion with the Church (NA) elements of sanctification and truth(LG 8), seeds of the Word (AG 11) and good and holy things in other religions (NA ) are :

1) Visible and known to us in the present times.

2) They are saved without the baptism of water ( as if he would know of such a case)

A + i,e being saved in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire followed by the baptism of water, in a manner known only to God.This is the position of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary with reference to the dogma extra ecclesiamnulla salus.So A+ is also compatible withB.

I have sent these blogs posts 1 to Cardinal Robert Sarah via Twitter and I really hope he can do something about it. The Franciscan Friars of Immaculate(FFI) are still prevented from offering the Traditional Latin Mass.Though this Mass is available for the Sisters of the Immaculate and is offered by the Secretary General of the FFI.He has been given permission to offer the Traditional Latin Mass - but not the Franciscans of the Friars of the Immaculate.Why? He says in an interview that he too does not know the reason why only he is allowed to offer the Traditional Latin Mass.The FFI like the SSPX say they reject Feeneyism and accept the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 as magisterial.Even though they accept the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance as exceptions to therigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), they affirm the old ecclesiology , like the SSPX say they reject Feeneyism and accept the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.They still affirm the old ecclesiology.

So the FFI and SSPX's position on Judaism , is not accepted by the Zionists, Masons, the Chief Rabbinate of Israel and the liberal rabbis in Italy. The Jewish Left has criticized the Vatican, from a position of military and political strength.The Vatican has rejected the dogma.

Pope Francis does not want to be considered Anti Semitic and so has maintained the ban on the FFI until they change their ecclesiology like the obedient FSSP, Institute of Christ the King, Opus Dei etc.

Cardinal Sarah will permit the FFI to offer the Traditional Latin Mass if in public they are not crypto Lefebvrists i.e they must not hold the ecclesiocentric ecclesiology of Fr.Leonard Feeney of Boston, hated by the Jewish left, who are enforcing pro- Satan laws world wide.

So Cardinal Sarah is not going to rock the boat in tilt. He will maintain the present ideological position saying (A) those who who are saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16, a ray of the Truth (NA 2),imperfect communion with the Church (NA) elements of sanctification and truth(LG 8), seeds of the Word (AG 11) and good and holy things in other religions (NA ) are :

1) Visible and known to us in the present times.

2) They are saved without the baptism of water ( as if he would know of such a case) and so they are exceptions to(B) therigorist intepretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus , the Feeneyite version.

How canA be an exceptionB? This is irrational He does not know any one alive today saved as such (A). These cases would be in Heaven if they existed.

Yet this has to be accepted by any priest who wants to offer the Traditional Latin Mass.This is the irrational condition for offering Holy Mass, the Traditional Latin Mass or the Novus Ordo Mass.This is the condition set by Pope Francis and accepted by Cardinal Sarah.

The liberal theology for this error has been prepared well by Cardinal Ratzinger.

1.The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican Notification on Fr. Jacques DupuisS. J (2001) says the good things in the other religions are a preparation for receiving the Gospel Fine. But we have to be careful to note that these persons are not known to us.Otherwise we accept apparition theology.These are theoretical cases. They are not defacto known cases who will be saved this year without the baptism of water.So they are not exceptions to the Feeneyite version of the dogma, the traditional intepretation.

2. All who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church (CCC 846).Fine. So they cannot be explicit exceptions to the rigorist interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

3. God is not limited to the Sacraments. This statement contradicts the dogma.This is apparition theology. Since if there is a case of someone saved without the Sacrament of Baptism, in the present times, Pope Benedict would not know of him or her. So this is speculation.

These three points are accepted by Cardinal Sarah who I assume accepts liberal theology , the apparition theology of Cardinal Ratzinger.

This new theology emerged with the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which Cardinal Sarah also accepts.

If Cardinal Sarah rejected apparition theology and affirmed Feeneyism, thenA would not contradict B.There would be nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the old ecclesiology.This would then become ideological.It would not be accepted by Pope Francis and the Jewish Left. The liberal rabbis would again become intolerant with the Catholic Church, as during the opposition to the Good Friday Prayer for the Conversion of the Jews.

So the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate have to continue to suffer because the liturgy is made ideological.

-Lionel Andrades

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Liturgy has been made subservient to political necessity.This heretical theology and doctrine ,this development, is necessary today to offer Holy Mass