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Texas dude - all I did was pipe up in defense of someone who was trying to help you out. If I wanted to insult you, I would have 50 different ways of doing that. But I'm a peaceful dude and have no bone to pick.

for more information/research, aidsmap.com has a lengthy section about "HIV and the Criminal Law" (http://www.aidsmap.com/law) that touches on many of the issues, from this thread, in the US and around the world

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leatherman (aka mIkIE)

All the stars are flashing high above the seaand the party is on fire around you and meWe're gonna burn this disco down before the morning comes- Pet Shop Boys chart from 1992-2015Isentress/Prezcobix

With some trepidation, I will speak up as a newbie that this thread and having these links is useful. I guess I could focus my research on the topic and found them but the fact is that the Living With HIV forum is where I routinely go for information that may be useful, comforting or sobering. And there is a lot, so very much, I am still processing and re-processing. So I am not not the Jedi master that so many here are. I have seen articles and blogs from time to time but having these sources and being reminded of these sources is just information. It seemed that was the spirit in starting this thread. I may never, ever be in the situation again where disclosure is a step/issue/worry, but the topic is a reality and I don't see ill will or stupidity as reminding newbies that it's there.

I didn't want to create a new thread for this as there seem to be so many lately. I was just reading that an Air Force Sergeant was arrested for allegedly exposing several people to the virus at swinger parties. I thought all military members were tested every 6 months and if you were poz, you could no longer serve. Maybe I'm mistaken. The article didn't say he was a former member of the military. It would be good to hear more details about this.

I didn't want to create a new thread for this as there seem to be so many lately. I was just reading that an Air Force Sergeant was arrested for allegedly exposing several people to the virus at swinger parties. I thought all military members were tested every 6 months and if you were poz, you could no longer serve. Maybe I'm mistaken. The article didn't say he was a former member of the military. It would be good to hear more details about this.

It is them two. That pic was a while ago. I believe they're not even together anymore?

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"I have tried hard--but life is difficult, and I am a very useless person. I can hardly be said to have an independent existence. I was just a screw or a cog in the great machine I called life, and when I dropped out of it I found I was of no use anywhere else."

POZ Magazine founder, Sean Strub, talks about the legal issues with disclosure in this video interview. He talks about being able to prove you disclosed. With people serving what could be basically life sentences for spitting on someone or sex with a condom, I'm starting to think my idea (not mine alone) about video taping the disclosure isn't a bad idea.

i didnt read all the posts cuz they were too long, but i must say this. weather you feel like a criminal or not has no bearing on being hauled away to jail. im a newby here and this is a very good thread (apart from the angry people who dont want it up). well news for you i needed this info. i was just diagnosed, and afterwards i went and hooked up with this dude thru craigslist (am i allowed to reference other websites here?). we used protection so i didnt think it was a big deal cuz i wasnt putting him at risk then he found one of my profiles on a hook up site that i sometimes use and it lists me as poz. so he texted me all freaked out and asked why i didnt tell him. i appologised but i knew he wasnt put at risk so i didnt really think about it again. until i heard about criminal law suits being filed for the same thing i did. needless to say im not sure if i should contact him and reappologise and make sure were cool or forget about it and just hope that a cop never shows up asking for me.so ya see its VERY important to those of us newbies who dont wanna go to jail. now any advice please?

so ya see its VERY important to those of us newbies who dont wanna go to jail. now any advice please?

Glad you found the thread useful!

I suppose I can only offer advice on your fear of being arrested. That would be of course to inform yourself on the laws in the state in which you are having sex. Then make an informed decision on your disclosure practices.

______(The question of whether to disclose or not - as pertains to your own morality - is up to you and another topic for another thread. There are lots of them here.

As for the specific instance you presented, I wouldn't contact him again. No more "apology" needed. If a similar situation presented again in the future, I think its a good idea to lower the hysteria and emotional outrage, and not be confrontational, but simply acknowledge the persons fear and claim there was no risk and give the person a suggestion how to look up such information him/herself for reassurance."

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“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

And people might like to write a few letters to senator, local politicians and the like about the injustice of HIV exposure and transmission laws, and the disproportionate sentences handed down by judges etc.

Or are we all gonna hide in the HIV criminalisation/disclosure closet?

Advocacy and change begins at home, in yer bedroom, in yer local park etc.

i didnt read all the posts cuz they were too long, but i must say this. weather you feel like a criminal or not has no bearing on being hauled away to jail. im a newby here and this is a very good thread (apart from the angry people who dont want it up). well news for you i needed this info. i was just diagnosed, and afterwards i went and hooked up with this dude thru craigslist (am i allowed to reference other websites here?). we used protection so i didnt think it was a big deal cuz i wasnt putting him at risk then he found one of my profiles on a hook up site that i sometimes use and it lists me as poz. so he texted me all freaked out and asked why i didnt tell him. i appologised but i knew he wasnt put at risk so i didnt really think about it again. until i heard about criminal law suits being filed for the same thing i did. needless to say im not sure if i should contact him and reappologise and make sure were cool or forget about it and just hope that a cop never shows up asking for me.so ya see its VERY important to those of us newbies who dont wanna go to jail. now any advice please?

As a legal matter, I would not say anything in the form of an apology that could be used against you. Now, that might not be the moral thing to do, but with all these prosecutions, you would be better served to not say anything that could be used against you.

I am sorry, I did not read further than this line, because it was too long. I strongly suspect that the information you seek, or at least links to it, are found in one of the messages you skipped.

It is a shame that one of your first acts upon entering this forum is to critique the members and it's threads, especially a thread in which you seem to have actual personal investment.

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"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

I am sorry, I did not read further than this line, because it was too long. I strongly suspect that the information you seek, or at least links to it, are found in one of the messages you skipped.

It is a shame that one of your first acts upon entering this forum is to critique the members and it's threads, especially a thread in which you seem to have actual personal investment.

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt that he didn't mean it that way. Maybe he meant he was really busy at work when reading this and the posts were too long to read all them now but he'll read them later??? Sometimes people can say things that don't come out the way they meant. But, maybe he meant it exactly like he said it.

i didnt read all the posts cuz they were too long, but i must say this. weather you feel like a criminal or not has no bearing on being hauled away to jail. im a newby here and this is a very good thread (apart from the angry people who dont want it up). well news for you i needed this info. i was just diagnosed, and afterwards i went and hooked up with this dude thru craigslist (am i allowed to reference other websites here?). we used protection so i didnt think it was a big deal cuz i wasnt putting him at risk then he found one of my profiles on a hook up site that i sometimes use and it lists me as poz. so he texted me all freaked out and asked why i didnt tell him. i appologised but i knew he wasnt put at risk so i didnt really think about it again. until i heard about criminal law suits being filed for the same thing i did. needless to say im not sure if i should contact him and reappologise and make sure were cool or forget about it and just hope that a cop never shows up asking for me.so ya see its VERY important to those of us newbies who dont wanna go to jail. now any advice please?

The only advice I have for you is to read an entire thread, before you slam the people posting in it. Nobody has a problem with disclosure issues being discussed, but we do have a problem when they are done incorrectly or in a hurtful fashion. If you had bothered to read the thread, you would see that the issue was with HOW the information was presented, which was essentially that non-disclosure of your status was illegal and that is simply not true. The thread has since been retitled, to accurately reflect the topic at hand, because our issue with the original post was it implied that non-disclosure of status was criminal, period. Not that non-disclosure of your status, prior to sex, can be criminal depending upon where you live.

Now do you see how your comments were unwarranted? I hope so. Water under the bridge and welcome to the forums.

Not sure I understand why everyone is attacking each other about this thread....as to whether or not it should have been posted. Everyone has the freedom to read something or not. I appreciate pretty much every thread on these forums, regardless of whether or not I agree with there theme. The only time I would want a post censored is if it is aimed at attacking an individual or group. Personally, I would not have sex without disclosing, but that is my choice. That being said, folks, either read this or ignore it. Much love and respect to all......Mpositive

I just wanted to say... I think this thread is appropriate... although the issue is something I'd rather not want to think about... but, Ignorance to the laws being passed in tthe United States and countries all over the world... I am thankful for the Links posted by other members... for Information! This is one reason that I only date? poz men... unfortunately few if any around my area are what I'm seeking? so I only have sex with myself? and no... I am not willing to disclose to myself either...lol it would be nice to have a another hiv+ infected partner in my life... until then its just me??? life goes on...