NG, the call is coming from inside the building!
Spaceman Thrax
Sweeeeet Ronny D
Tuanduy1102
Featherine
LongSilver
Shiho Nishizumi
Who Me
Natalia Poklonskaya
Micchan
Keegoz
durmij
TheNG Rising
Hodor
Alex
Senyor Puloy
#3, Which is currently Pantheon.
I feel like having Alex is both an automatic win and an automatic loss. We'd probably get him to delete Pantheon, but he'd make it twice as large somehow, then he'd say he could fix it if we gave him credits, and by that point Natalia and I would just wander off to talk about asses, assuming i didn't already explode from being in the same AA as Keegoz. Let's call it a tie.

Hmm yeah I see why you'll want Pre to make announcements still...
Nah! Best of luck INH. I think the ideal is the old guard getting the Hell out of the way, so I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with Test. Try to do as good a job for your members as UPN did for you. Uhhh just try to do a good job.

Lol. Good one. Too bad Sval is the funniest player. : (
Seriously though IQ essentially admitted they were trying to spoil the ballots last year, because they were upset about how things had gone the year previous. That's what I mean. If the entire thing is going to boil down to "who has the most players and who is most aggressive about telling them to vote", eh, have fun, but I pass.

Mostly agreed, actually. The shot I fired at you was mostly me trying to work from what I assumed to be SRD's perspective.
I certainly had my gripes about Test, but I gripe about everyone, and I can see how things ended up that way. Knowing you spent about ten times more effort on pushing things forward than most alliances, and at least twice as much as I did, definitely read my commentary for what it is.
I'm not too sure the ground-level facts bear this one out for who was dragging you down. CoS happened to get you personally, but I think there's about as many people on your side who could say it was Test.
But yes! Sorry for the wait. Have fun.

I'm gonna like this post even though there's some garbage in it because I do dig the effort. Some thoughts:
I appreciate you as a player. Some people get on the margins of being nasty to you, but my earliest memory of you is being allied to you here while literally fighting you in another game, and that not being at all contentious. You clearly understand it's a game and in good fun, and I appreciate that a lot.
Your argument about Test, I mean, I was there for Test becoming a bloated mess and essentially bullying smaller alliances in the upper tier. I didn't like it either, because it wasn't competitive. In your thinking, how does allying so much of the upper tier with your own alliance make you anything different from what Test used to be? The way I see it, you're even more bloated and non-competitive, and you've pretty much bluntly said you think lopsided wars are great. But your issue with Test is that they were opportunistic... what is it that you think your alliance is?
it's cool you're proud of your alliance and I love the fact that you made it in your own image, and that you have ideals. i just happen to think most of your ideals are crumby and backwards. To your point about activity.... Tywin literally went to your alliance because he knew he wouldn't have to do anything. I'm sure he's not the only one. When you have relatively few members, the proportions get a little wonky... like, sorry, you say tomato, I say "about 5% of your alliance deserted as soon as you were going to get rolled." In a game where some alliances are getting flak for what is effectively a 10% VM ratio, well, we're talking about a question of sample size rather than a difference of type, essentially.
As for the jab at my alliance's war performance.... I mean our stats are garbage, yes. We're trying to win the war, not pad stats. I'm glad you have great stats, but we knew our infra was forfeit from the getgo. We don't care if it's your alliance or another one that happens to explode it nearly as much as you seem to. Our initial strategy was designed around that, allowing the other fronts to get cleaned up while you and guardian were distracted with us, a numerically inferior force (and you had to bring Tesla, as well), so I'm plenty happy with how things have gone.

This is an interesting debate.
I think I see Mikey's point: "There's no invalid way to play, and every alliance has the right to define how they want to do things" and I mostly agree. The asterix on that I'd put is that as other players in a community, we have the right to object to the way other people choose to do that, and fight over it if we want. That's the whole game! Grumpy's the easy example, so I'll stick with it. SRD's philosophy is logically sound (just follows from premises I don't agree with) and not invalid... I just don't ascribe to it or like it myself, so I want to fight him.
I don't see how Grumpy has some unique monopoly on making players not enjoy the game. That's a wider problem they are a smaller part of, perhaps. But, without getting TOO tangenty here, I think every alliance has a bit of responsibility to share for the political state of the game.

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