The exact nature of Jack’s death likely won’t be revealed in the final two episodes this season, creator Dan Fogelman says. “In terms of seeing the moment where something happened to Jack, that’s a little ways away,” he tells our sister site Variety. “Where it will be finally all fully revealed, that’s a ways off.”

We did see a flashback to Jack’s funeral a few episodes back, when his daughter Kate (Chrissy Metz) had a breakdown during a drumming exercise at weight-loss camp. But we still don’t know what killed the beloved patriarch played by Milo Ventimiglia. Fogelman says viewers are “slowly getting the shape of this big event in the family… How did it happen? Was it sudden? Was it slow? We’ll get a lot of that information, but the real story of it will play out not in the near, near future.”

At least one other person does know the truth about Jack’s fate, though: Mandy Moore, who plays Jack’s wife Rebecca. “Mandy needs to know that,” Fogelman says. “She’s playing an older version of herself. She needs to know when she lost her husband, and how it happened.”