i think owners should be able to run their business's anyway they please(within the law of course). If that means not offering certain beers or not offering ketchup(or even allowing ketchup on the premises), or not allowing substitutions then that's their prerogative. If i had a vision and designed a menu or a burger and thought it would be best eaten a certain way and i only wanted it to be served that way and paired with beers i thought it paired well with and the public didn't accept it then I would be the fool. But Fathers Office has been successful for being who they are. If we don't like it. Don't eat there.

True the Sm location is a nightmare and frustrating. I would never go there again but the Culver City location is much more accommodating.

As far as the taste of the burger. I really like it. I also like the more traditional burgers but who was putting blue cheese on a burger in LA before fathers office?

i knew someone would reply with Spitz. I like Spitz but it's not like the Doner Kebab I grew up with in Scotland and the type of Doner Kebab that is popular in the UK which is a flat bread like a nan bread with the kebab meat, letteuce tomato and a chile sauce.

Spitz is nothing like that.. the bread is like panini and there is no chile sauce.

both el gallito and el taquito mexicano are great trucks. I was at both on sat night. The salsa roja at el gallito is a little smokier than el taquito(el taquito spicier). Bonus points for el gallito keeping their truck nice and shiny. There was a good crowd at both trucks on saturday

the cheese on the burger is grated..I guess they are trying to be different but the cheese just overwhelms the flavor of the meat (which is high quality) The cheese stays with you throughout because its not melted...it has a lot of it's stronger flavor. I wouldn't order the burger again because of that.

the braised pork shoulder in apricot glaze is excellent but when i ordered it it didn't come with a starch which is badly needed...some kind of rice or potato would make it awesome.