Here's what happened, according to a couple sources: Late last spring, retired general Peter Chiarelli, who had just finished his term as the Army's vice chief of staff, visited Carroll at the Seattle Seahawks headquarters. Chiarelli was expecting a pleasant meeting. After all, the pair had what important businesspeople tend to call synergies: Chiarelli—who grew up in Seattle—is a big Seahawks fan. His post-military work concerns traumatic brain injury research, a cause of some significance to the NFL. And both have plenty of experience leading groups of men on grand American stages.

The sit-down between Chiarelli and Carroll started off normally enough. They talked about the team, and then about head trauma. Chiarelli, who commanded the American forces in Iraq during Operation Iraqi Freedom II, talked about the brain injuries he had seen there. But Chiarelli's mention of Iraq sent Carroll in another direction: He wanted to know if the September 11 attacks had been planned or faked by the United States government.

In particular, Carroll wanted to know whether the attack on the Pentagon had really happened. Chiarelli—who was the top-ranking Army official inside the Pentagon when American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into its western side—explained that it had. He said he had lost many colleagues. But Carroll didn't stop there. He ran through the whole 9/11 truther litany.

In particular, Carroll wanted to know whether the attack on the Pentagon had really happened. Chiarelli—who was the top-ranking Army official inside the Pentagon when American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into its western side—explained that it had. He said he had lost many colleagues. But Carroll didn't stop there. He ran through the whole 9/11 truther litany.

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Not sure why anyone questions the pentagon when hundreds of witnesses in broad daylight saw and reported a PLANE flew over them and into the Pentagon. All the "truthers" do is show the one guy who described the plane as a "missile" and edit that. Not any of the thousands of people out there that day or questioned that day or anyone on TV said they saw an actual missile. Light poles all over the place were knocked down from the wings of a plane. Plane parts all over the place seen by citizen witnesses and investigators. Amazing in 2014, this still goes on.

Trying to watch a sports game not your idiocy because you never felt important in life.This guy who did this is a moron.

Not sure why anyone questions the pentagon when hundreds of witnesses in broad daylight saw and reported a PLANE flew over them and into the Pentagon. All the "truthers" do is show the one guy who described the plane as a "missile" and edit that. Not any of the thousands of people out there that day or questioned that day or anyone on TV said they saw an actual missile.

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I saw a video on You Tube that asked eyewitnesses about the route the plane took. They all saw the plane go in a direction that was counter to the official story. 2 cops were among the eyewitnesses. They had no idea the significance of what they were saying and once they found out, they wouldn't talk anymore.

The report strongly implied that a plane flew towards the Pentagon, but pulled out at the last second while firing a missile into the Pentagon.

I still get how Truthers ignore the fact that it would literally have taken thousands of people to plan, execute, and cover up a government plot the size of 9/11. And over a decade later, not one of them have come forward.

And don't give me the lame Manhattan Project scenario. First, building an atom bomb was far less of an undertaking than what it would have taken to execute a 9/11 plot and cover it up. Second, plenty of people who worked on the Manhattan Project knew they were working on the A Bomb. It is a fallacy that everyone who worked on it was clueless. Third, after the bomb was dropped, most of the people in the dark working on the Manhattan Project who were in the dark figured out their role.

And for the record, I don't believe the 9/11 report in its entirety, but the only major conspiracy I think has any weight is how the government covered up the Saudis involvement in funding the terrorists. That is the only really plausible major conspiracy and the only one that the majority of victims of 9/11 families believe too.

I saw a video on You Tube that asked eyewitnesses about the route the plane took. They all saw the plane go in a direction that was counter to the official story. 2 cops were among the eyewitnesses. They had no idea the significance of what they were saying and once they found out, they wouldn't talk anymore.

The report strongly implied that a plane flew towards the Pentagon, but pulled out at the last second while firing a missile into the Pentagon.

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Everyone makes up videos today with edits and BS. There are tons of witnesses. Witnesses in cars and on the street that said a PLANE flew into the Pentagon and crashed. End of story. It was daytime, citizens all over. These edited BS stories are just made up fire for 9/11 truthers. Just like them editing the guy saying the plane was "like" a missile...not A missile. If you knew it was the truth you wouldn't edit a video to make him appear to say something different.

Listen I'm NOT getting into a 9/11 "truther" thread. This is a Super Bowl related thread and my point was this guy was a moron trying to ruin it with his insanity. Trying to watch the game and post game, not this moron who wants to finally pretend he's important for once in life. Hundreds of witnesses in broad daylight said a plane flew over them or their cars and they saw it crash into the Pentagon. All said it that day. Why was there plane parts all over if it flew off? This is ridiculous.

I still get how Truthers ignore the fact that it would literally have taken thousands of people to plan, execute, and cover up a government plot the size of 9/11. And over a decade later, not one of them have come forward.

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naa.. couple hundred tops.

and they are either dead or smart enough to know to keep their mouths shut or they will be dead.

and they are either dead or smart enough to know to keep their mouths shut or they will be dead.

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It is closer to tens of thousands than a couple of hundreds. You needed people working at Norad, FAA, demolitions experts, members of the 9/11 commission, first responders, security at the world trade Center, witnesses at every attack site, investigators on each scene, the media, members of all levels of Congress and the White House to be able to plan, execute, and cover up the government's involvement in this. Hell, the government couldn't even cover up Abu Grahib and that was just a handful of guards.

If 9/11 was a government conspiracy, it would have been the largest executed and covered up conspiracy in World History. It would take literally thousands of people to pull off.

It took thousands of people to pull off the Super Bowl tonight. You think that is easier than pulling off a government attack on its own people at three different locations and cover it up?

It is closer to tens of thousands than a couple of hundreds. You needed people working at Norad, FAA, demolitions experts, members of the 9/11 commission, first responders, security at the world trade Center, witnesses at every attack site, investigators on each scene, the media, members of all levels of Congress and the White House to be able to plan, execute, and cover up the government's involvement in this. Hell, the government couldn't even cover up Abu Grahib and that was just a handful of guards.

If 9/11 was a government conspiracy, it would have been the largest executed and covered up conspiracy in World History. It would take literally thousands of people to pull off.

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no actually it's a couple of hundred if that considering the "training exercise" that NORAD was conducting that day and all the other things that scream cover up. I find it comical people still question how government could pull off 9-11 when less that two years later LIED ABOUT WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION to bring us into another war in Iraq.

It is fitting that your rebuttal is a "c'mon there would have to be 1000s". Per usual you cynics have absolutely nothing more to add than a "My government would never lie to me" mentality. Why don't you do some research and see how well that theory has worked out since the beginning of time.

no actually it's a couple of hundred if that considering the "training exercise" that NORAD was conducting that day and all the other things that scream cover up. I find it comical people still question how government could pull off 9-11 when less that two years later LIED ABOUT WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION to bring us into another war in Iraq.

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Ok, knocked about ten people off. Where are you going to knock off the other few thousand people I mentioned that?

It is comical you mentioned WMDs. That one works against you. The government was CAUGHT LYING about that. That was something that was far easier to cover up and they couldn't. The fact of the matter is the government is the worst place to keep a secret. Everything comes out. No WMDs, Abu Grahib, looking at people's phone records, the use of drones, etc. They all get exposed. Yet, they can keep a government attack the size of 9/11 secret? Thanks for helping my argument.

It is fitting that your rebuttal is a "c'mon there would have to be 1000s". Per usual you cynics have absolutely nothing more to add than a "My government would never lie to me" mentality. Why don't you do some research and see how well that theory has worked out since the beginning of time.

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Moron, I NEVER said the government never lies. Would you stop making up lies in every post you do here. This was a Super Bowl thread about a nutjob.

Go debate the hundreds of people that said to investigators that day, that a plane flew over them and into the Pentagon. Not here though.