Back in November 1999, we were introduced to a sports video game series that would become one of the most popular out there with the release of NBA 2K. Every year since then, 2K Sports has released a new version and one thing that people look forward to the most (as with any sports video game) is seeing what overall rating their favorite players received.

The initial ratings are usually met with some controversy from the fans who think players should be rated higher or lower, but it usually sorts itself out by the end of the season when the ratings are updated. However, people don’t tend to get over the initial shock of seeing some of the ratings being “off.”

There are always going to be arguments about where players should be rated and there are some guys that really got jipped by their video game ratings while some got a favorable boost. Some of the players that didn’t make the list include some underrated players like Brandon Ingram, Serge Ibaka or even Joe Johnson. Some on the overrated side that weren’t egregious enough to include contained players like Ben Simmons, Klay Thompson and Mike Conley. As for the rest, here are the 15 most disgraceful ratings you can find in NBA 2k17.

15 DeAndre Jordan - 85

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We start the list with a player that was underrated upon the release of NBA 2k17, DeAndre Jordan. A lot of people would say that Jordan is one of the three best centers in the NBA, with some even ranking him as high as the top spot. That did not seem to matter to the fine people of 2K games, who gave him just an 85 rating.

Jordan’s rating was already a bit too low the year before with an 84 and he didn’t get a big bump despite a season of having 12.7 points, 13.8 rebounds and 2.3 blocks per game. Obviously, Jordan’s free throw ability doesn’t help his overall rating, but it still seems that his work at the charity stripe shouldn’t bring down the rating that much, especially with his ability to haul in rebounds and block shots.

14 Bradley Beal - 79

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While Bradley Beal might not be the best player in the world, he still received an 80 overall ranking in NBA 2k16. That would change for the Wizards shooting guard for this year’s edition of the game, despite increasing his scoring by 2.1 points per game in the 2015-16 campaign with 17.4 while also adding 3.4 rebounds and 2.9 assists. Beal’s rating would be dropped by one point, down to a 79 overall.

Beal’s number should not have gone down with this year’s game, especially when looking at the ratings of his own team. Beal is third overall on the Wizards roster in terms of ratings. The top overall spot belongs to John Wall (not surprisingly), but ahead of Beal is...Marcin Gortat. That seems like a bit of a stretch.

13 Kristaps Porzingis - 80

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It’s almost always impossible to give an accurate rating to a rookie in the NBA, but when they have a season where they show a ton of potential at just 20 years old, you can comfortably rate them much higher the next year. In his rookie season, Porzingis was given a rating of 74 before the season, but played well above that. After putting up 14.3 points with 7.3 rebounds, 1.9 blocks and 1.3 assists per game, it seemed like he would be in the low to mid 80’.

Porzingis was given an 80 overall heading into the NBA 2k17 season, which seemed too low considering how big the next step he would take would be. Through the first 17 games of the season, Porzingis has proven that his rating is too low, maintaining his rebound and blocking stats while adding more than 6.5 points per game to his average total.

12 Devin Booker - 78

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Here’s another rookie that didn’t get much love from the folks at 2K Games after his first season, Devin Booker. In his rookie year, Booker received just a 72 rating, which is fair when you don’t know what you’re going to get. Booker played well beyond that rating in the 2015-16 season, putting up 13.8 points, 2.5 rebounds and 2.6 steals per game. Not the best numbers, but should be in consideration for getting in the low 80s with all of his potential, instead receiving a 78 rating.

Just like Porzingis, Booker has proven the ratings makers wrong with a strong start to the 2016-17 season. After his first 17 games in his sophomore campaign, Booker has put up 19.5 points per game while getting slight increases on his rebounding and steal numbers. If he keeps it up, Booker should comfortably be in the 80s next season.

11 Isaiah Thomas - 85

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Isaiah Thomas had already had a somewhat underrated number in the 2016 edition with an 81. Thomas would end up playing well above that, getting to the All Star team thanks to a season where he posted 22.2 points, 6.2 assists and 3.0 rebounds per game. Those numbers were certainly in line with some of the best point guards in the NBA, but Thomas didn’t get much love.

In NBA 2k17, Thomas was given a rating of 85 overall, placing him into the logjam or point guards with an 85. However, Thomas is likely the best out of all of them and should have gotten a bump up over guys such as Kemba Walker and Mike Conley, especially since his numbers were significantly better than both of them in 2015-16, and he continues to outperform them today.

10 Andrew Wiggins - 82

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When it comes to rating rookies in the NBA 2K series, it’s usually only the top one or two picks that get a rating with any respect. Andrew Wiggins received that in 2k15 with a 77 overall rating after being the top pick in 2014 and would end up being the Rookie of the Year. 2K bumped up Wiggins’s rating to an 80 for the 2k16 edition. With a season where he scored 20.7 points while pulling in 3.6 rebounds and 2.0 assists, you would think that he would have gotten another significant bump.

That was not the case, as Wiggins was only bumped up another two points, bringing his NBA 2k17 rating to 82. Just as a point of reference, that’s only three points higher than Ben Simmons, who had never played a game in the NBA and only good enough for seventh among small forwards in NBA 2k17 (six points behind fifth place Carmelo Anthony).

9 Nicolas Batum - 79

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Speaking of small forwards that were highly underrated for NBA 2k17, here’s one that got shafted even more than Wiggins this season with his rating. Nicolas Batum received a 79 rating in both NBA 2k14 and NBA 2k15, and his rating would actually drop to a 77 heading into the 2015-16 season. Batum would respond by posting solid numbers in his first season as a Charlotte Hornet with 14.9 points, 6.1 rebounds and 5.8 assists per game.

Solid all around numbers with the highest scoring and assist numbers of his career should have finally gotten Batum into the 80s for the first time, but it was not to be. Instead, Batum returned to his 79 rating for NBA 2k17. That pushed him into a tie for 12th place with the likes of Chandler Parsons and teammate Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.

8 Giannis Antetokounmpo - 83

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Going into the 2015-16 NBA season, 2K Games gave Greek sensation Giannis Antetokounmpo an 81 overall rating as he entered his second year in the league. The Greek Freak responded by having a breakout season where he was getting a lot of attention, scoring 16.9 points per game with 7.7 rebounds, 4.3 assists, 1.2 steals and 1.4 blocks to go along with it. That should have provided a bigger bump as he entered his prime, but only got moved up to 83 overall for NBA 2k17.

That seems like a low number for the incredibly versatile Antetokounmpo and he has been looking amazing this season. Perhaps he will finally break the 85 overall hump for 2k18, as long as he keeps up his current numbers. In his first 16 games, Antetokounmpo has averaged 22.8 points per game, along with 8.6 rebounds and 5.9 assists, certainly looking like an All Star.

7 J.J. Redick

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Although you probably hated him during his college days at Duke, it’s hard to say that J.J. Redick isn’t a little underappreciated right now. Redick has been a solid shooting option for the Clippers since joining the team, though his NBA 2K rating hasn’t always reflected that. For the 2015-16 season, Redick received a 79 overall rating, which dropped to 78 coming into this year.

So why the drop in the point? He was only 0.1 points per game from matching his career high for scoring and his other numbers essentially remained the same. Perhaps it’s a lack of defense on Redick’s part, but the Clippers would certainly give him a rating much higher than 78 for his seasons of service.

6 Karl-Anthony Towns - 88

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We have seen a few guys on the list so far that didn’t get a very big boost after their rookie seasons despite having solid years and showing off their potential. The same could not be said for Karl-Anthony Towns, who perhaps got boosted just a bit too much after his rookie season. In NBA 2k16, Towns was playing with a 78 rating and it was jacked all the way up to 88 for the newest edition.

2K Games was quick in anointing Towns (as some analysts also have been) as one of the best centers in the league. Towns’s 88 rating in NBA 2k17 makes him among the best big men in the game already. People have been saying that Towns is overrated in this year’s game, with some even claiming that he was the most overrated. You could make that argument, but we have one more overrating on the list.

5 Kyrie Irving - 89

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Three years ago, Kyrie Irving had a rating of 89 overall in the 2K series, then dropped by three overall points. Since then, Irving’s rating has worked its way back up and he’s playing the best that he has been in his career. You would think that would be enough for Irving to finally break into the 90s, but it wasn’t to be as Irving achieved just an 89 overall rating once again in NBA 2k17.

Some might be able to make an argument that Irving is perhaps the best point guard in basketball, as the former top overall pick is coming off of a championship season where he scored 19.6 points per game with 3.0 rebounds and 4.7 assists. 89 is a pretty high rating in 2k17, but Irving seems underrated in this year’s version.

4 Draymond Green - 90

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If Kyrie Irving isn’t going to be one of the players that gets a 90+ rating in NBA 2k17, there are others that shouldn’t, as well. With 12 players that did make it into the 90s, the biggest argument has come from Draymond Green. Green is exactly on the 90 line, tied with the likes of Anthony Davis, DeMarcus Cousins and James Harden. While Green is a solid all around player, his numbers don’t quite back up a 90 rating.

Green’s defense and three point shooting ability were perhaps a bit too high, which got Green to his 90 rating. In 2015-16, Green put up 14.0 points with 9.5 rebounds and 7.4 assists per game. Those are good numbers, certainly, but not among the best in the league. Yet, there were many Warriors fans that told 2K that he should be rated higher.

3 Rudy Gobert - 81

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In his first season in the league, Rudy Gobert was one of the lowest rated players in the NBA 2K series, boasting just a 52 rating as a rookie. Thankfully, Gobert would live up to his potential (in real life) and receive a rating of 71 the next year. One year later, he was still sitting at 79 and broke into the 80s for NBA 2k17 with a rating of 81. While it’s nice to see him in the 80s, he should be a couple of points higher.

Gobert averaged 9.1 points with 11.0 rebounds, 1.5 assists and 2.2 blocks per game during the 2015-16 season and, at only 24 years old, you knew that he was only going to go up. The season should have probably been enough to get him a bit higher in the 80s, but it was all for naught. Gobert is on pace to have his best scoring season in 2016-17, so hopefully next year’s 2K game shows him some love.

2 Kevin Love - 82

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While we’re on the topic of ‘love’, here’s a player that has been dogged by 2K over the past two years. In 2k14, Love received an 88 rating and then an 89 the next year. It would drop all the way to 81 for 2k16 and still only moved up to an 82 for 2k17. Sure, Love wasn’t putting up the numbers that he was posting while with the Timberwolves, but he's also sharing a team with LeBron James and Kyrie Irving.

Love, despite his 82 rating for this season, was still able to post 16.0 points, 9.9 rebounds and 2.4 assists per game. There are some other players that put up similar numbers that received a higher rating. Dirk Nowitzki is a name that comes to mind that didn’t have the rebounding stats that Love did, but was still given two more overall ratings points.

1 C.J. McCollum - 83

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The final player on our list is one that received a huge bump in his ratings between last season and this season, but it still doesn’t feel like enough. After three years of being rated 72 overall, McCollum got boosted up to 83 overall for NBA 2k17. Perhaps 2K was wary of giving a player with one full season as a starter an 85 or higher rating, but it’s hard to ignore what McCollum did in 2015-16.

McCollum started 80 games for Portland last season, and was able to score 20.8 points with 3.2 rebounds, 4.3 assists and 1.2 steals per game. Most everyone has been saying McCollum is underrated in 2k17 after his past season, but McCollum himself isn’t one of them. He tweeted out:

It's funny how people get mad over their @NBA2K ratings. If you dnt like your ratings go serve & get ya # up. That's what I'm on #hibachi