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Whether you are in or out, the remarks were unnecessary and inflammatory. I am struggling to see how they were helpful

Channa

I don't think they were intended to be helpful, Andrew - simply the natural frustration of somebody who has had enough with people who don't think of the consequences of their actions. I can understand it entirely - and, as usual, the pro-Brexit press has tried to make it look as if he was having a go at all Brexit voters.

I quite like Donald Tusk, I think he's relatively straight as politicians go.

I do think it's interesting to see how the papers tried to spin what he said to make it sound like he was having a pop at leave voters.

Hex, discussion I had with my Polish colleague during yesterday lunch break, Woj certainly painted a picture of a man who only has his own interests at heart. Which is pretty much par for the course with most politicians.

Last edited by runnach; 09-02-2019 at 10:09.

The value of a man should be seen in what he gives and not in what he is able to receive.

The newspapers quoted his words and his response to Varadkar. I don't see how they are manipulating the facts. If you want to see bias read the "I" who don't print any pro Brexit news and the editorials are incredibly one sided. I'm not sure why I read it.

Not to mention the fact that brexiteers, including politicians, have been slagging of the eu and it's politicians all the way through this process. Not one complaint about that in the press...
I have been surprised at the restraint shown by the eu side thus far...
He probably shouldn't have said it but I welcome anything that makes me chuckle!

The newspapers quoted his words and his response to Varadkar. I don't see how they are manipulating the facts. If you want to see bias read the "I" who don't print any pro Brexit news and the editorials are incredibly one sided. I'm not sure why I read it.

Well, here is a sample, for a start - Newspaper headlines: Donald Tusk's Brexit 'hell' comments on front pages - BBC News . Newspapers these days have vast legal teams and are very careful to not say anything libelous but they (or many of them) have developed ways to give an impression while only reporting the facts of a statement. They work on the principle that many of their readers don't look any further than the headlines.

I don't think they were intended to be helpful, Andrew - simply the natural frustration of somebody who has had enough with people who don't think of the consequences of their actions. I can understand it entirely - and, as usual, the pro-Brexit press has tried to make it look as if he was having a go at all Brexit voters.

Blimey John, the statement in bold will just about cover every human being, whether it being something said, done or intending to say or do. Most of us know when to keep schtum for fear of causing offence, I guess politicians are a breed apart, they think they can get away with anything?

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false and by rulers as useful.

Hex, discussion I had with my Polish colleague during yesterday lunch break, Woj certainly painted a picture of a man who only has his own interests at heart. Which is pretty much par for the course with most politicians.