Troy P.... The last 2 years he barely looks average.. But the whole D look bad. Cant stop the run is a major concern..

pittpete

09-09-2012, 11:53 PM

He played more than half the game 20 yards off the LOS, you're smoking crack bro.
While I agree he tried to avoid a 325 lb. lineman and took a bad angle, where was the rest of the d?
Mundy couldnt catch a 2 legged dog in a chase.

SteelBucks

09-09-2012, 11:56 PM

Troy is the least of our concerns on D.

Starlifter

09-10-2012, 12:22 AM

troy is the only player on our defense peyton was concerned about. that speaks volumes about how good he is, and how average we were in every other position.

8467thekraken

09-10-2012, 12:28 AM

I don't recall being this dissapointed in a team.

This may be a very long season.

Slapstick

09-10-2012, 12:30 AM

I don't recall being this dissapointed in a team.

This may be a very long season.

Weren't you watching last year on opening day?

hawaiiansteel

09-10-2012, 12:50 AM

I don't recall being this dissapointed in a team.

I was more disappointed losing to Tim Tebow in the playoffs last year than I am losing to Peyton Manning in the first game of the season this year.

losing to one of the worst QBs in the NFL was a horrible way to end the season, losing to a future Hall of Fame QB to open the season just seems a lot easier to swallow and still gives us the rest of this year to turn things around.

Oviedo

09-10-2012, 06:27 AM

Troy is the least of our concerns on D.

I agree but LeBeau's over reliance on Troy is a concern. It was clearly shown in the broadcast that Manning was keying his audibles off of where Troy was and a good D Coord would make an adjustment to that. But as is usual there were no adjustments on Defense.

Eich

09-10-2012, 07:40 AM

Weren't you watching last year on opening day?

Agreed. Opening day last year was far worse. But this one still stunk. Opening day and injuries have already decimated this team. What are we going to look like by week 16?

Eich

09-10-2012, 07:43 AM

I agree but LeBeau's over reliance on Troy is a concern. It was clearly shown in the broadcast that Manning was keying his audibles off of where Troy was and a good D Coord would make an adjustment to that. But as is usual there were no adjustments on Defense.

Manning was keying his audibles to avoid Troy. It's what good QB's do - steer away from the best guy on defense. How does our D Coord do something to make Manning not avoid Troy?

We've shown in the past that the best way to defend against Manning is to get pressure on him and we did not have an answer for that. He was as comfortable in the pocket as he could be. Hell, he even ran for a first down.

feltdizz

09-10-2012, 08:46 AM

I was more disappointed losing to Tim Tebow in the playoffs last year than I am losing to Peyton Manning in the first game of the season this year.

losing to one of the worst QBs in the NFL was a horrible way to end the season, losing to a future Hall of Fame QB to open the season just seems a lot easier to swallow and still gives us the rest of this year to turn things around.

I agree.. I was PO'ed at the D but it's Peyton Manning... he is pretty darn good.

ikestops85

09-10-2012, 12:39 PM

I agree.. I was PO'ed at the D but it's Peyton Manning... he is pretty darn good.

I agree about Manning being pretty good but I want to know ...

where was Woodley
where was Timmons
where was Keisel
where was Taylor
where was Hood
what happened to Allen and Lewis ... I saw them but didn't like what I saw.

Some here seems to think LeBeau needs to design and call plays at the correct time that lets a defender have a free run at the QB. That doesn't happen often and when it does I think it's luck. Our players have to beat their players one on one. Do the Giants disguise where their pass rush is coming from? I don't think so. They send the same 4 guys play after play. Does that mean their DC is better than ours? I think it means our pass rushers aren't as good as theirs.

Sometimes it's the players fault. That was what I saw last night in Denver.

papillon

09-10-2012, 12:59 PM

When the Broncos huddled the first three drives it wasn't even fair; the Steelers had their way with the Broncos offense. Once Peyton went no huddle he owned the defense. There are a handful (maybe) of quarterbacks that can run the no-huddle drive after drive after drive like Manning, Rogers, Brees, Brady, Ben (to a degree), Flacco (to a degree), Ryan (to a degree, maybe) and that's about it. Of course, if the Steelers make the playoffs there's a very good chance they'll see some flavor of the no-huddle now that it's on film, but the defense should hold up pretty good for the next 15 games.

Pappy

pfelix73

09-10-2012, 01:42 PM

Talking about bad angles- I noticed this at times along the OL in some of their blocking schemes. For example, not sure where it was in the game, but pretty sure it was in the 2nd half.. They were down on the goal line in tight formation and the RT had to block down on the DL. That DL shot the gap and hit the rb in the backfield for virually no gain. The RG should've blocked that DL because of the angle. If they would've changed up on that, the RB may have been more successful and maybe even scored. It's little things like that. And thats not the OL fault. Its the way the play was drawn up and its the way the OL coach decided to block on that play. It could've been a good time for an audible too- thats on the QB....

Football is a game of angles.. This example just goes to show that its a team game, and so therefore, everyone and anyone is at fault when a play such as that goes for neg. yardage.... just sayin'

RuthlessBurgher

09-10-2012, 01:50 PM

What scared me about Troy was seeing him during pregame on my HDTV, and seeing all of the grey hairs he has in his mane now...pretty soon he is going to take over the Silverback name from Harrison.

Pops8

09-10-2012, 02:33 PM

Defense seemed to be doing well against the huddle. It got in trouble in during the no-huddle. I'm curious, who called the on field defensive plays and adjustments during the no huddle? Last year it would have been Farrior I believe. Is it Timmons now? Clark? Perhaps there is more to the tale.

We also had an untested OLB on the field, an untested CB, and a backup Safety. Its no shock they struggled.

In the end, I agree that the players on the field got whipped.

RuthlessBurgher

09-10-2012, 03:50 PM

Larry Foote.

Pops8

09-10-2012, 05:49 PM

Larry Foote.

Thanks. As long as he has been around, he should know the calls. Of course, knowing them and making htem are two different things. I was more concerned that Timmons might have been making them thus giving him more to do than he needs.

tiproast

09-10-2012, 08:47 PM

I think your defense will look better when Harrison and Clark are in the starting line-up.

DukieBoy

09-10-2012, 09:02 PM

I think your defense will look better when Harrison and Clark are in the starting line-up.

Concern here for how our DL got owned. Thanks for the positives though.

hawaiiansteel

09-10-2012, 09:17 PM

I think your defense will look better when Harrison and Clark are in the starting line-up.

or put another way, our defense will look better when Chris Carter and Ryan Mundy are not in the starting line-up.