Does anyone else feel that the tower's names have significance? The "Tower of Rebirth" could have been the location of a rebirth ceremony similar to what had happened with Griffith at the Tower of Conviction. This would explain the sacrifices in the bottom of the tower. Everyone fled into the castle to escape the surrounding evil, and the tower was further aboveground. When the sacrifice happened, the castle was swallowed up by the earth, and all that remained was the top half of the Tower of Rebirth. Gaiseric, similar to what happened with Guts, could have fought his way to surviving the Eclipse. IMO, Void and SK were the wizard and Gaiseric respectively. Void was in Guts' role however and wanted power, whereas Gaiseric was closer to Griffith and satisfied once he had conquered everything. Also, it could be that once the God Hand is filled and has a member reborn, then the next time a God Hand comes to be the old group passes on and everything starts again.

December 29, 2011, 07:44 PM

mcd693

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

I know that the anime is never considered cannon but I'm re-watching the anime, then re-reading the manga and while doing so noticed a line said by zod. When zod confronts guts and griffith, just when he's about to kill griffith, he notices the behelit. Everyone already knows this, but something that i thought to be especially interesting is that he says, "I see. I've seen this double edged ploy before". My opinion is that he's referring to the skull knight's situation in that the exact same sacrifice occurred.

What I don't understand is why SK is always fighting zod? Griffith managed to cut zod's arm off during this fight. If Griffith and Guts went toe to toe with Zod at that point when guts was at 100% then zod could have been killed. How come sk sucks in comparison to zod? Would sk kick ass? At the point of the fight that i am referring to zod says he's been fighting for 300 years. Meaning he's been an apostle or whatever for 300 years. SO, how come sk can't kill him?

January 17, 2012, 09:42 PM

Aazholh

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

I think SK and Zodd are evenly matched in terms of fighting skill. I believe that is why SK hasn't managed to kill him. Which is really sad, since SK has had over a 700 year head start.

Hey, you ever notice that in comparison, when Guts fights an opponent, the battle is extremely detailed. But when SK fights Zodd, we only see a few panels?

February 03, 2012, 12:57 AM

nothingimpressive

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

Anybody think skull knight could in fact be rakshas..i mean the mask seem's to have the same protrusions as to imply an upside down crown, he also is seen riding under zodds wing to later be seen fleeing as in par with skull knight...

February 03, 2012, 04:25 PM

Aazholh

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

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Originally Posted by nothingimpressive

Anybody think skull knight could in fact be rakshas..i mean the mask seem's to have the same protrusions as to imply an upside down crown, he also is seen riding under zodds wing to later be seen fleeing as in par with skull knight...

Nah, if SK was already there, why would he need to use the Behelit Sword to get there?

For a while, I thought Rakshas was Jarif?( Jarick?) the Kushan that helped Raban escape from Windam. He was very persuasive during his talk to Shilat. From whatever angle, his helmet dispayed three ovals arranged in the pattern of Rakshas eyes. But we see him looking surpised with the rest of the on-lookers at Ganishka's aftermath. So I guess I was wrong, unless he has the ability to teleport back to the ground or something.

February 06, 2012, 12:17 AM

nothingimpressive

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

good point!

June 22, 2012, 09:20 PM

THORIVOS

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

anyone else ever thought that the female figure on skully's horse looks awfully similar to slan?
notice the medusa-like hair and the demon wings.

June 25, 2012, 04:59 AM

Chaki

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

I don't think he was branded, he doesn't seem to attract any creatures in the way Guts does. I think he may be "former" apostle, maybe even God's hand if such thing is possible.

February 18, 2014, 07:42 AM

Ryuzaki L

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chaki

I don't think he was branded, he doesn't seem to attract any creatures in the way Guts does. I think he may be "former" apostle, maybe even God's hand if such thing is possible.

I don't think he's an apostle either, otherwise he would cause Guts brand to bleed.

March 02, 2014, 06:14 AM

TheFlash

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

Here's a crazy ass theory:
Skull Knight was the first ever God Hand. He was called upon God himself,
and sacrificed his loved one(now the woman in the horse crest thingy, il explain later).
Later on, 4 more God Hands are made. Skull Knight, since his the first God Hand, has power
over the other 4 God Hands and can control them and reigns over the God Hands and the World
as the mother fu*king KING. So one day, the 4 God Hands decide they had enough of SK's crap.
So they decide to over throw him and split the power equally. So now there are 4 Main God Hands and
SK has been banished to the human world. (Later on Griffith takes SK's place as a God Hand)
So, there SK meets Flora and what not and train together and SK tries to get stronger to
get his revenge on the 4 God Hands and maybe even get revenge on Griffith who took his place.
And while his getting stronger and fighting apostles, he also tries to repay his sin that he commited
from sacrificing his loved one to become a God Hand and that's the symbol crest thingy in the Horse.
And so he meets Guts and feels like he has a lot in common with him and helps him in his journey
to kill Griffith and get his own revenge on the other God Hands.
What a Fu*king Theory, eh? :D

PLOT TWIST: Skull Knight is actually the GOD, who just watches over the world and sees interest in whats
happening and finds the God Hands interesting and interferes with them once in a while.
Nah im joking about the Plot Twist :D

March 02, 2014, 07:13 AM

Ryuzaki L

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

Can you guys please keep in mind, Guts brand never reacted to Skull Knight the same way it did to Griffith or any Apostle.

March 02, 2014, 10:42 AM

gnut

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

agree....
i believe he became friends/allies with the witch...not to fight god's hand but to be saved from the armor(which had took him over)
i think this is why she had the armor in her possession.....

November 20, 2014, 09:29 PM

Swirls

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

No one ever brings up the engravings on the stone structure in the pit below the Tower of Rebirth. On the page with the engravings, put your finger on the upper lip of the female statue. Slowly go straight down until you get to the engraving. It looks like a robe, a central figure, my guess is it's Void/Wiseman. I believe he more or less started the Holy See. In those times where witches and elemental worship was alot more common, This religious "sage" went around spreading gospel about one "God", all the while branding people who wished to follow him. I'm sure he didn't use a blade but a little magic of his own, the branding was quick and clean, nothing but a little sting and now you've proven your faith. I say this because If you look at the panel with the skulls, their brands are all on the forehead, which reeks of some religious type deal.

Also perhaps this cult of people carrying the brand of sacrifice which we know distorts the space around them and since they are put in the interstice(which from a religious zealots point of view could be seen as a way to get closer to "God") as Schierke has mentioned being in the interstice "makes it easy to affect matter with the mind". So all these people together praying for and coming to believe in this one "God" who weaves every mans destiny to bring reason to so many seemingly pointless deaths. Perhaps this is how the "Idea of Evil" was born.

The whole angel and unicorn thing could have many explinations. Maybe All these branded together was causing a distortion so great that normally rare creatures like unicorns were more easily seen. Maybe Void was teaching people "astral projection" or was doing something similar to what Griffith does now with the spirits of the dead and thus the "angels". Miura will figure which story he chooses to give it. I think the point here is that Void built a little sanctuary, and all this angel and unicorn stuff may have just been a great way to really make people believe in his religion that he eventually sacrificed for ascension.

Void is the God-Hand that brands afterall. As a holyman, his wish was most likely always for divine direction and to carry out "God's" will, to be an angel of "God". Void is the angel that sits on the thumb and is the only one I've seen referred to as "archangel" which obviously means "chief angel".

So there are many reasons for me to believe he was the first God-Hand, but also likely went about his sacrificial ritual differently. Maybe he had to kill his sacrifices himself like "The Count" killed his own wife. "The Count" even did It after being given power. But IoE would have been relatively new with Void, so it might of not even had the necessary souls to turn Void until he gave it the sacrifices. There's alot to speculate.

I know this was more about Void than Gaiseric/SkullKnight, but I think since they existed in somewhat the same era(I'm pretty sure at one point fought), we need to uncover something about one to get some ideas about the other.

November 21, 2014, 07:50 AM

ladylola

Re: The Skull Knight - Facts, Speculation and Theories

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swirls

No one ever brings up the engravings on the stone structure in the pit below the Tower of Rebirth. On the page with the engravings, put your finger on the upper lip of the female statue. Slowly go straight down until you get to the engraving. It looks like a robe, a central figure, my guess is it's Void/Wiseman. I believe he more or less started the Holy See. In those times where witches and elemental worship was alot more common, This religious "sage" went around spreading gospel about one "God", all the while branding people who wished to follow him. I'm sure he didn't use a blade but a little magic of his own, the branding was quick and clean, nothing but a little sting and now you've proven your faith. I say this because If you look at the panel with the skulls, their brands are all on the forehead, which reeks of some religious type deal.

Also perhaps this cult of people carrying the brand of sacrifice which we know distorts the space around them and since they are put in the interstice(which from a religious zealots point of view could be seen as a way to get closer to "God") as Schierke has mentioned being in the interstice "makes it easy to affect matter with the mind". So all these people together praying for and coming to believe in this one "God" who weaves every mans destiny to bring reason to so many seemingly pointless deaths. Perhaps this is how the "Idea of Evil" was born.

The whole angel and unicorn thing could have many explinations. Maybe All these branded together was causing a distortion so great that normally rare creatures like unicorns were more easily seen. Maybe Void was teaching people "astral projection" or was doing something similar to what Griffith does now with the spirits of the dead and thus the "angels". Miura will figure which story he chooses to give it. I think the point here is that Void built a little sanctuary, and all this angel and unicorn stuff may have just been a great way to really make people believe in his religion that he eventually sacrificed for ascension.

Void is the God-Hand that brands afterall. As a holyman, his wish was most likely always for divine direction and to carry out "God's" will, to be an angel of "God". Void is the angel that sits on the thumb and is the only one I've seen referred to as "archangel" which obviously means "chief angel".

So there are many reasons for me to believe he was the first God-Hand, but also likely went about his sacrificial ritual differently. Maybe he had to kill his sacrifices himself like "The Count" killed his own wife. "The Count" even did It after being given power. But IoE would have been relatively new with Void, so it might of not even had the necessary souls to turn Void until he gave it the sacrifices. There's alot to speculate.

I know this was more about Void than Gaiseric/SkullKnight, but I think since they existed in somewhat the same era(I'm pretty sure at one point fought), we need to uncover something about one to get some ideas about the other.

It is speculated that Skullknight is Gaiseric and that Void was his Wise man he imprisoned. But later it is said that "Angels" came to free him. Generally the God Hand are identified with angels or demons (fallen angels) because they're able to deceive people about their true nature. If it is true that the Wise man was saved by other God hand, then it's possible that there was previous set of God hand. Maybe after they realize their dream they are allowed to be reborn again, like a cycle. At least it would definitely mean that Void is the oldest of the current God hand, since these events happened 1000 years ago. I remember there was theory about the role of each God hand, based on the thumb they are sitting in during the eclipse. I think the God hand are equal, or that they each have a role.In Void's case he seems to be the one conducting the ceremony, Conrad is seen raising the altar etc. As for Femto, he's supposed to bring the age of darkness, he's the only one who was able to be reincarnated as a human after his ascension to our knowledge.