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Interesting comments miracle seeker. Thank you. IMO the Christians I know would say there is a path to heaven for all. LGBT issues are both political and moral like many others. Like I said above, I support anyone starting a thread on these issues.

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Dancing Bear - You said you would support anyone starting a thread on these issues. Well IMHO this isn't the place for any of those topics. If it's not directly related to PWP then I would not be in favor of it. There are many other blogs or forums that cover every issue on earth. If i want to discuss religion i will go to a religious forum and likewise for any other subject. If I want to learn and discuss Parkinson's Disease I will come to this forum or other regarding the same points.

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Thanks pdmanaz. I understand your opinion on this. Electronic forums in general are a poor medium for discussing/debating some topics/issues. I have learned alot from this forum on PD related subjects. Have a good one!

DB

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Both make valid points. Religion and politics often bring on heated discussions. Everyone thinks they are right and no one ever backs down gently. Let's all focus on what this forum is about. We are here to support, offer suggestions, and learn about PD. Life is hard enough without adding more unnecessary stress.

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We miss you, Linda. We hope and pray things are well with you. You have selflessly strengthened others in spite of your limited energy and challenges from PD. It has not gone unnoticed how much empathy your soul contains. Your work on the forum illustrates the values of Christianity. PWP relate to your message and apply the principles to their individual struggles.

May God grant you peace in your heart and assurance of your purpose. We hope to hear from you soon.

NN

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Objection noted New Normal. This is a Parkinson's Disease forum for discussion of relevant issues. That board censors shut down Linda's bible thumping propensities was a welcome relief to us nonbelievers.

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Whats your problem? If these religious zealots want to discuss religion and how it helps them get through the day, that's there prerogative. I do not have their belief system and Linda's thread has no effect on my life. Is it any different than the Good Morning thread that rarely discusses PD issues or the Medical Marijuana thread that talks about the wonders of MM for every disease known to man but rarely mentions PD. This is an Open Forum and if the administrators have not closed the topics, I guess they have no issue with them. Your objection to the thread is because you object to their religion. Are you afraid they're going to convert you? Just ignore the subjects you don't like. Life is to short to worry about what Linda is writing about.

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Discussing religions for the purpose of comfort is one thing. Pushing a religion for the purpose of conversion is another. Ninety percent of the content here was generated by Linda in her effort to convert the so called lost souls to the glory of her god. The recent post that bothered me most was the one she posted regarding the scientific documentation that supports her position that LGBT community persons actions are a choice rather than a natural condition of their birth. What has this to do with PWP?

IMHO again this forum is no place for this anti LGBT propaganda.

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You are not the administrator of this forum, just a user like the rest of us. The administrators have stated that this area is unmoderated. If you don't like the content, then don't read it. It really is as simple as that. If something really offends you, report your objections to the forum administrators. If you want a moderated forum for PD, shell out some money and start your own. This forum is provided to us free of charge.

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Pardon me Dave. I have a right to my opinion as you or anyone does. Dont give me advice on protocal for this forum. I have read far worse on other threads here. Maybe the person responsible for this thread or repeat supporters share some responsibility for the content. I totally stand for what i have writte.

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Objection noted New Normal. This is a Parkinson's Disease forum for discussion of relevant issues. That board censors shut down Linda's bible thumping propensities was a welcome relief to us nonbelievers.

What happened? What board and who got shut down? This thread is still alive and kicking right?

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For all intents and purposes it's dead...and has been that way since Linda G. started passing off the chicanery of "Dr." Charles Stanley as the spoken word. If not quite dead yet then it's on life support.

DaveN - Spoken like a true bible thumper - Every single one of the sentences in your most recent post is, demonstratively false, my friend. Those about me were also insulting. If you feel like preaching...why don't YOU go and start YOUR own blog/website. Or, we could just be friends and curtail opinions on which we'll never agree and discuss instead, the horror staring both of us in the face, PD. Roger

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I can't resist posting to this very long-standing thread. I am of Christian faith, so I decided to "open it" to see what it had to offer. If I followed Islam, Judaism, or any other religion (or non-religion), I wouldn't have bothered to read the post. If I read a sign on the door of a business that said "Only those who are atheists are allowed", I wouldn't enter. The title of the post tells you where you are headed "A thread for anyone interested in topics of Christian faith--all invited." What is so flippin hard to understand and complain about? If you find comfort in your religion to help with PD, then great. If you have no religion, great. Then post another topic expressing as such. Don't pollute a legitimate thread on a free, non-moderated forum. I'm always amused how non-believers always complain, and it never goes in reverse.

My temperament tells me it may be time for my meds. Carry on....

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Hi, everyone. Am back from my unplanned and long hiatus. There was no ban (neither on me nor the thread), FYI. Just a series of mainly health issues I was dealing with, like life sometimes sends us all. I was without a laptop for most of that time, and it's good to now have a new one up and running.

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We miss you, Linda. We hope and pray things are well with you. You have selflessly strengthened others in spite of your limited energy and challenges from PD. It has not gone unnoticed how much empathy your soul contains. Your work on the forum illustrates the values of Christianity. PWP relate to your message and apply the principles to their individual struggles.

May God grant you peace in your heart and assurance of your purpose. We hope to hear from you soon.

NN

As always, NN, thank you for your very kind and supportive words. Much appreciated. I know you and your DH are going through especially challenging times right now and big decisions that have to be made, and yet you continue to reach out to others, a wonderful and caring characteristic.

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Luke, I like your tone. When I first saw this thread on the forum, I had no idea it would turn into one of the most entertaining of all!

In state-run organizations (such as the high schools in which I once taught) I was unyielding in observing a strict separation of religions and general education. But this forum is not state-run and its threads not mandatory reading for pwp. Although I do not label myself "Christian," those who find Christianity helpful in their self-treatment are welcome to their own thread as far as I am concerned. They are not proselytizing if I am not reading.

Thank you, dear ellaangel2. My precious Madison had to be put to sleep last week. Very hard, but it was very clear it was the best thing to do. He was nearly 15 years old and in perfect health except that he had developed pancreatitis, and the vet said even with meds he would not live a very good life, so I said I needed to let him go. They sent me his footprint and sympathy cards. Such a great emergency hospital.

On what I didn't know was Madi's last day with me, he didn't want me anywhere except where he could curl up against me. I curled my arm around him, and we looked deep into each others' eyes as we often did--letting each other know of the love we had in our hearts. He purred and looked so content, and he did something he had never done before which just stole my heart--He reached up to pat my face three times. He had never done that before. It's very touching to me to think about it.

And an amazing thing has happened with Dusty. He realizes that he can now approach me more freely (since Madi the alpha cat is no longer with us), and he is like a different animal. He's like a little angel that the Lord prepared for me as I go through the grief of losing Madi. He snuggles up to me and then looks up at me upside down and loves me to fuss over him, scratching his chin and petting him, and of course telling him what a wonderful boy he is. I just can't get over the transformation. I had planned to get another kitty eventually, but I don't think I will, as Dusty needs to be an only boy now and get his share of love that for five years he didn't feel free to come and get.

And I look forward to some day hopefully being with Madi again...in God's heaven, where I envision him having been sent to the Lord's arms of love when he passed on.

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So, LUKE this thread is only for believers? Hhhmmm ok. Got it. Please help everyone on here understand that. Special and exclusive club. So in this club you can disparage those of a different moral persuation, still trying to prove to the world that being LGBT is a choice lifestyle. Do you receive comfort from that? Does that help your PD?

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I've chosen generally to stay out of this thread due to the comments by Roger and pdmanaz and similar folks. Perhaps I shouldn't stay away, but I just have so many other things to do with my time.

That said, Linda - Welcome back! Very sorry to hear about your cat. It's the somewhat downside to having pets that we usually long outlive them. But, I'd rather outlive my pet than the other way around as they are so dependent on us. I've had to put down a couple dogs and my cockatiel died of extreme old age. It never gets any easier.

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My sincere sympathy to you Linda. I completely understand the grief of losing a furbaby. I have lost many and each have taken a piece of me with them. We can never replace them, but their light can shine down on another. Sounds like Madi is shining down on Dusty. It is common to have more than one cat, but many times they do prefer to be an "only." I am an "only" myself, so I recognize this preference.....lol.

Stump, you make an excellent point about them being so dependent on us, that it is truly better, as hard as it is to bear, that they go before us.

I have made provisions for my Ella, she has a "Godmother," a much younger person than I, because Ella is only 5 years old and I am almost 60. Ella's Godmother is an animal lover, we have "training" sessions every so often though, because Ella has some very special needs for her care. It gives me peace of mind to know my furbaby will be cared for the way I wish.

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So, LUKE this thread is only for believers? Hhhmmm ok. Got it. Please help everyone on here understand that. Special and exclusive club. So in this club you can disparage those of a different moral persuation, still trying to prove to the world that being LGBT is a choice lifestyle. Do you receive comfort from that? Does that help your PD?

Why are you still posting to this thread if you don't agree with the content? What is a "special and exclusive club" on an OPEN forum? Start a thread on cats and dogs copulating; start one on how you roll chicken bones to see your future; start one how you think cows are holy. I don't think anybody cares; and if you do start a "counter-thread", most civil people will ignore it if they don't agree. I tend to follow and respond to threads that can relate to myself, and the title of the threads give me the first clue. It's an easy concept! Live your life and don't be scared of other's opinions that are not your own.

Now you can carry on, I'm out....

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My sincere sympathy to you Linda. I completely understand the grief of losing a furbaby. I have lost many and each have taken a piece of me with them. We can never replace them, but their light can shine down on another. Sounds like Madi is shining down on Dusty. It is common to have more than one cat, but many times they do prefer to be an "only." I am an "only" myself, so I recognize this preference.....lol.

Stump, you make an excellent point about them being so dependent on us, that it is truly better, as hard as it is to bear, that they go before us.

I have made provisions for my Ella, she has a "Godmother," a much younger person than I, because Ella is only 5 years old and I am almost 60. Ella's Godmother is an animal lover, we have "training" sessions every so often though, because Ella has some very special needs for her care. It gives me peace of mind to know my furbaby will be cared for the way I wish.

Thanks, ea2. I like that you are preparing as best you can for Ella's care should you need someone to take over. I didn't realize she has special needs; it's so nice that you take such good and loving care of her.

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I've chosen generally to stay out of this thread due to the comments by Roger and pdmanaz and similar folks. Perhaps I shouldn't stay away, but I just have so many other things to do with my time.

That said, Linda - Welcome back! Very sorry to hear about your cat. It's the somewhat downside to having pets that we usually long outlive them. But, I'd rather outlive my pet than the other way around as they are so dependent on us. I've had to put down a couple dogs and my cockatiel died of extreme old age. It never gets any easier.

Hi,Stump. Always appreciate your posts. Thank you.

I have learned to expect nasty and critical comments from the people you mention above and therefore not be affected by them. They seem to enjoy trying to hurt other people. That's the only reason I see for them to continue to drop in and read topics that they dislike and disparage. Sad, sad way to live.

Edit from Linda at 12:33 PM 3/28: Roger, pdmanaz and others, I'd just like to offer this song below and the singer's thoughts about it. God thinks you're beautiful, and he loves you. My concern in sharing things like you take exception to are an effort to inform of this, as it is easy to feel you are being persecuted. You are not. It's an effort to reach out to you and others in love and to let you know that God loves you but warns strongly against some things in life that pull us that are not the best for the lives He has given us. We ALL have things that are a challenge to us, some more so than others, but many of us can tell you how hard it has been to stay strong and not be pulled into them. He wants the best for you and everyone. And He is there to help with whatever may be the cause of your anger and effort to disparage others for their beliefs. So it's a choice you have (though it may not feel like it, and I do know how hard it is to see it that way). I know saying these things is not popular, but how fair would it be for those of us who know Christ and His love not to say anything. If we didn't care, we would just be quiet. And If God didn't care, He would not have given those of us who follow Him the mandate to share Him with others, out of His love for them. We all struggle with things in our lives that we are pulled toward that are not the best for us. We're all in this together. Please--you are more than welcome to continue in this thread, but respect would be much appreciated. Or, at the very least tolerance for us as fellow human beings, just as you ask of us toward you.

And again, just a reminder that so much information that I give in the posts in the thread is to help in understanding who the Lord is and also to encourage us that He can give us the strength we need both to believe in Him and His guidelines, as well as become stronger in resisting those things that pull us in a direction away from Him and away from the best in life that He offers us.

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Luke, I like your tone. When I first saw this thread on the forum, I had no idea it would turn into one of the most entertaining of all!

In state-run organizations (such as the high schools in which I once taught) I was unyielding in observing a strict separation of religions and general education. But this forum is not state-run and its threads not mandatory reading for pwp. Although I do not label myself "Christian," those who find Christianity helpful in their self-treatment are welcome to their own thread as far as I am concerned. They are not proselytizing if I am not reading.