NLBS #35: The Anti-Vaccination Movement and the Measles Outbreak

There's more than one side to this BS. And last time I checked, people had the right to decide whether or not they needed to allow someone to inject
them with whatever. here's another take on it....
www.sott.net...

There is a difference between eating mercury, where it passes through several digestive filters the body has lined up, and injecting it directly into
your body, bypassing all your body's filters. There are plenty of things that we eat that if injected directly into us would have a completely
different effect than when we eat them.

"A clinical analysis of gelatin allergy and determination of its causal relationship to the previous administration of gelatin-containing acellular
pertussis vaccine combined with diphtheria and tetanus toxoids."

CONCLUSION:
"Most anaphylactic reactions and some urticarial reactions to gelatin-containing measles, mumps, and rubella monovalent vaccines are associated with
IgE-mediated gelatin allergy. DTaP immunization histories suggest that the gelatin-containing DTaP vaccine may have a causal relationship to the
development of this gelatin allergy."

I think vaccinations can be good, but you people who are anti-vaccination need to be careful. Pro Vaccination people are dangerous, dumb and crazy.
They will walk straight to the gas-showers saying "It can't happen here!"

I have read all of the replies on this thread. Here is a medical doctor that says that vaccines are unsafe, as well as the reasons why. I agree with
Dr. Humpries, as I got VERY SICK after the MMR vaccine, and shortly afterward was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. I do not have proof that the
diabetes was caused by a vaccine, but since I got sick and was diagnosed with diabetes 2 weeks after getting the shot-there is nothing else to blame
than the shot. Sure some may have a genetic predisposition to developing diabetes, but in my case missing the shot would probably have prevented the
debilitating condition which I have to inject myself for each and every day.

If vaccines are truly safe and effective, , then why were vaccines ruled as being “unavoidably unsafe” by the US Supreme Court in 2011, as was
ruled by the court in the above link?

I still think that people should have the freedom to get these injections if they so choose, but in a land of Liberty and true Freedom, a person
should have a choice whether to get these injections OR NOT for themselves as well as their children. I might NOT be living with chronic JUVENILE
diabetes today if I had not had the MMR shot.

The normal rate of autism is about 1/4000. The rate of autism in industrialized nations (ex: Russa, China, Japan and South Korea) without using
synthetic heavy metals used as a preservative in vaccines is about 1/4000. The current rate of autism in the US, Canada and many other industrialized
nations which use synthetic heavy metals to preserve vaccines is approximately 1/100.

Scotland, England, Finland and Norway had a rate of autism of approximately 1/100 when heavy metals were used. After they banned the use of heavy
metals in vaccines, the rate dropped to approximately 1/4000.

Two landmark events – a government concession in the US Vaccine Court, and a groundbreaking scientific paper – confirm that physician, scientist,
and Autism Media Channel [AMC] Director, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, and the parents were right all along.

People that are vaccinated have a stronger immune system, not a compromised one.

Your post illustrates how little you know about vaccinations and the human immune system. Take a larger look at the communities that vaccinate vs the
communities that do not. Auto-immune disorders (Asthma, eczema, IBS, Crones, the list goes on and on) are all-but non-existent in the communities
that do not vaccinate. They are incredibly health people. Bypassing the human immune system and then artificially highjacking it does nothing less
than destroy it.

There is a difference between eating mercury, where it passes through several digestive filters the body has lined up, and injecting it directly into
your body, bypassing all your body's filters. There are plenty of things that we eat that if injected directly into us would have a completely
different effect than when we eat them.

Not to mention that it is usually bound, and thus more easily passed without absorption... but they wouldn't know about that. They are on the
ignorance train... "Git yer shots! Toot! Toot!"

originally posted by: thebtheb
I always think the following is quite interesting, specifically under "Can I have Visitors?"

So it really pulls the rug out from the idea that vaccinated people are safe for others to be around. Sure, this is not talked about a lot, because
they want you to take the vaccine, but if you're a post surgical patient or have cancer, THEY TELL YOU this not insignificant fact. In fact, it could
easily be argued that the fact that we continue to vaccinate against measles might be what KEEPS measles from fading away completely. If everyone
simply GOT measles, mothers would pass the antibodies onto their babies when they were pregnant. Over time, everyone would be immune to measles. Not
so with vaccinations which only last 10 years and whose antibodies can't be passed onto babies when pregnant. And of course there's the whole polio
debacle - polio having been eradicated from North America by the 1980s and REINTRODUCED BACK INTO THE POPULATION through the nasal polio vaccine.

I don't believe you understand the concept of IMMUNOCOMPROMISED.

If you did you would realise why what you posted doesn't mean what you think it does.

I have read all of the replies on this thread. Here is a medical doctor that says that vaccines are unsafe, as well as the reasons why. I agree with
Dr. Humpries, as I got VERY SICK after the MMR vaccine, and shortly afterward was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes. I do not have proof that the
diabetes was caused by a vaccine, but since I got sick and was diagnosed with diabetes 2 weeks after getting the shot-there is nothing else to blame
than the shot. Sure some may have a genetic predisposition to developing diabetes, but in my case missing the shot would probably have prevented the
debilitating condition which I have to inject myself for each and every day.

If vaccines are truly safe and effective, , then why were vaccines ruled as being “unavoidably unsafe” by the US Supreme Court in 2011, as was
ruled by the court in the above link?

I still think that people should have the freedom to get these injections if they so choose, but in a land of Liberty and true Freedom, a person
should have a choice whether to get these injections OR NOT for themselves as well as their children. I might NOT be living with chronic JUVENILE
diabetes today if I had not had the MMR shot.

On her website there are links for all sorts.
But strangely no research.
I wonder why?

She WAS originally a nephrologist (a kidney doctor) and as you know, nephrologists are top of the list when it comes to immunology aren't they...?
She "left conventional medicine to research the many problems with mainstream medical theory."
Dunning-Kruger anyone?
Maverick doctor by any chance?

The normal rate of autism is about 1/4000. The rate of autism in industrialized nations (ex: Russa, China, Japan and South Korea) without using
synthetic heavy metals used as a preservative in vaccines is about 1/4000. The current rate of autism in the US, Canada and many other industrialized
nations which use synthetic heavy metals to preserve vaccines is approximately 1/100.

Scotland, England, Finland and Norway had a rate of autism of approximately 1/100 when heavy metals were used. After they banned the use of heavy
metals in vaccines, the rate dropped to approximately 1/4000.

Two landmark events – a government concession in the US Vaccine Court, and a groundbreaking scientific paper – confirm that physician, scientist,
and Autism Media Channel [AMC] Director, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, and the parents were right all along.

So I really don't know..
Limbo

Just out of interest, which forum were you on?
I'm guessing it wasn't a medical or science based one.

A court ruling does not science nor medicine make.
And the paper which is cited has no mention of measles, vaccine or MMR contained in it. journals.plos.org.../journal.pone.0058058
This study was very different from Wakefield's and in previous similar studies, Stephen Walker went out of his way to explain why it has nothing to
do with vaccines.

People that are vaccinated have a stronger immune system, not a compromised one.

Your post illustrates how little you know about vaccinations and the human immune system. Take a larger look at the communities that vaccinate vs the
communities that do not. Auto-immune disorders (Asthma, eczema, IBS, Crones, the list goes on and on) are all-but non-existent in the communities
that do not vaccinate. They are incredibly health people. Bypassing the human immune system and then artificially highjacking it does nothing less
than destroy it.

Please read the quote in my signature before you spew more garbage.

Which communities are these?
And how do vaccines "bypass the human immune system"?

And on the subject of injection vs ingestion, you do realise that not all vaccines are injected, right?

"More easily bound and thus more easily passed without absorbtion"?
Can you elaborate on this please?
Do you know how the digestive system works at all?
Do you know how the body "decides" what is waste and what isn't?
Do you know that some waste products get excreted via the bloodstream?

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