NOOB ALERT: Do not send ANY money to any ASIC company at least until they can give a definitive proof on the fact that they have a working Bitcoin ASIC.

Until today (9th April 2013) only AVALON has proved they have the machines, shipping aprox. 300 of them to final customers. All the other players that appeared on the market have failed as per today, or they were just a plain SCAM from the beginning.

OP: Put your company address onto your website, so it can be verified? Scan your business registration and upload it here? Take some photos of your office/workshop? Meet at least two trusted forum members to verify your ID in person? Show proof of ASIC development? Then we can talk.

Three simple tweets and these fuckturds litter them with grammatical errors. Yet, they want us to take them seriously. ...Do I have to do everything for your fucktards?

Thank you! I'm not the only one who's annoyed of their poor grammar.

show us your Swedish language skills.Or any other non-native language

I believe I just did, since I'm swedish myself. It's mostly their lack of correct capitalisation and punctuation that annoys me. Correct grammar is not that hard and it's makes a huge impact on their credibility, at least for me it does.

NOOB ALERT: Do not send ANY money to any ASIC company at least until they can give a definitive proof on the fact that they have a working Bitcoin ASIC.

Until today (9th April 2013) only AVALON has proved they have the machines, shipping aprox. 300 of them to final customers. All the other players that appeared on the market have failed as per today, or they were just a plain SCAM from the beginning.

As much as I want them to be for real and legit, I have to agree about holding off until a working prototype is manufactured and proven, As we stand today, There are too many people who have horded since bitcoin began, And now its worth something, They are quite happy to throw a few coins at anything that might increase their gain, Unfortunately, This make BTC much more desirable to scammers.

I am not claiming this is a scam, But in relation to what was thought to be en established company (BFL) has now taken a year (ONE WHOLE YEAR) and still were none the wiser, Please be careful with any new ventures, But give them the space to prove themselves also.

Take Avalon for example, from October to March delivery, that's 4 months for a working prototype and one month for production/test/delivery, and they have several favorite conditions: YiFu has previous contact with TSMC, and Dr. Zhang has a team of experts in ASIC design from his university. And most important, Dr. Zhang has been doing all the FPGA miner design since 2 years ago, so when they start to take pre-orders, the design part is more or less finalized (Final product deviate very little from their original claim)

For a new comer that barely know how bitcoin works, he need to grab all the source codes for various FPGA products and first try to make some working FPGA prototype, and then transfer this design into ASIC. A roughly estimation about this time frame is around 6 months, I don't see how could they speed up this process, unless they have already started this work since last year

I really hope that their offer is for Real, otherwise it will be a waste of our time in this thread. To show trust and sincerity, it would be awesome if 1) Give us some photo shoot of their products specs and images of their factories. 2) Product design and production updates, 3) Who and how they fund their project?

If none is forth coming how are we going to expect anything. The evidence of proof needs to be there.

They added an FAQ which says they will only be accepting BTC and Paypal. I will probably attempt to make an order via Paypal since it's pretty safe. I urge everybody to avoid sending any BTC until they've provided proof.

They added an FAQ which says they will only be accepting BTC and Paypal. I will probably attempt to make an order via Paypal since it's pretty safe. I urge everybody to avoid sending any BTC until they've provided proof.

Keep in mind that PrimeAsic scammers also advertised they would accept PayPal but when orders finally opened they claimed they had issues and would only accept BTC. If this happens here then case closed IMO.

i'm not well known here, but if needed i volunteer to go to their office / r&d / assembly place there is. sweden is just a few hours of flight or overnight boat trip away - and i'm also very interested to get some extra equipment