I know but it's R*'s game so they can do anything they want which includes different vehicle engines. And it makes sence to me because R* loves to play with words. 19:35, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Wrong..

Whoa Wildbrick.. slow them horses down.. that isn't the Khamelion... the Khamelion only appears in multiplayer, not single player..

Take a look at the badging. You can see that it says Khamelion or Chamelion (Can't see the first letter). The game is in development so they could enable it in SP. 17:35, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Possibly, but this isn't a speculation wiki.. I'll chat to Jonny & see what he thinks :) CiaoInstulent (talk) 17:37, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

He is also doing speculations. That will most likely not be true. 7F? What is this? It was never said by R* that this is the car's name. So he is speculating more than anyone. And new screenshot is a solid proof that this is the Khamelion. 17:45, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

So, using the Rage Italic font, You can compare the badge and the writing. Looks almost identical.

17:50, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

You don't need to make it that big.. :D Jonny should be coming in a few minutes soon, so we will find out soon :DInstulent (talk) 17:55, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Jonny will start ultimately speculating saying "this car is not Khamelion" or "car =/= electric" or "Khamelion in reality is called 7F". Just please, take a closer look at the badge and the font writing. Compare the size and lenght. This clearly says its Khamelion. I'm not trying to speculate or start wars or anything but what else is there to show that this is not the Khamelion? 18:02, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

That does look pretty convincing, I doubt they would put two cars with the same name save one letter into the game. Maybe they did? o.O HebbyDGouchemen(talk here) 18:01, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

If someone can give me a logical explanation as to why an electric car has exhaust pipes I will unlockj the page. JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 18:08, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

With cars like the Ford Fusion, you have your normal version, then you have the hybrid version. RAGREF2(Talk) 18:12, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Dilettante was electric/hybrid and it has exhaust pipes. Can you give me logical explanation to why is this car called 7F if it is not called like that? 18:14, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

So what? You left the page locked and decided to go away? I see that you are a responsible admin *sarcasm*. 18:34, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

I'll warn you now; watch your tone. I've said this before and I'll say it again Hybrid

≠ electric car. Seeing as the only official info given for the Khamlion is electric car, it cannot be the vehicle featured in the image. If it were electric there wouldn't be any exhaust pipes, if it were described as a hybrid you may a have a case, but it isn't.

The name 7F is given so that readers can quickly identify the car, it is immediately identified as an unofficial name as well. If we giving vehicles the name "Unnamed x" we'll run out of name placeholders.

Where/how did I offend you? Because I said that you just left without giving a reply like an admin should do?

Anyway, It's Rockstar's Game so they can do what they want. If they decide that they will add decorative exhaust pipes, or make it hybrid then they will.

7F is not official and the biggest speculation I have seen this year. And why bother making a page? If car has unofficial/no name then it should be on Vehicles in GTA V page so it will save space and time making unnecessary pages.

I have said that twice before and I will say it again: LOOK AT THE PICTURE. You can clearly see Chamelion or Khamelion written on the stupid car. Compare both fonts. Compare the size and lenght. It can be easily noticed.

18:59, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Apart from the name 7F tell me what is speculation on that article. Also if a page for a vehicle is unnecessary, then why are you here? JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 19:05, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

I said unnecessary about pages for UNNAMED vehicles. 19:16, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Just because it's unnamed doesn't make it any less of a vehicle. JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 19:26, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Still, there wouldn't be any pages with misleading, unofficial and extremely speculative names like 7F 19:28, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

It's only as speculative as a reader makes it to be. It says quite clearly next to it (unoficially named), in conjuction with the unreleased template. JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 19:44, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

But does the page title say it's "unoficially named"? 19:50, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

The "C" is actually a "K" in script writing, I bet 50 bucks to JBanton the car seen in the picture is the Khamelion. JBanton is just abusing his moderator powers on something that is actually real. RAGREF(Feeling lonely?) 19:39, June 17, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, the poeple that disagree with me, how I love this stuff. Until there's proper evidence (I don't count the image, seeing as the wording on the Premium Executive Sedan hasn't been identified), this shall remain locked in the case that it actually does concern the model for the Grand Tourer. There's not much point expanding this article if the other article, with all the information can be renamed, but at this moment in time which names belongs to which model is uncertain. JBanton (Talk | Contribs) 18:58, June 18, 2013 (UTC)