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The Pistons suck....anyone with any intelligence knew they would when they brought in Smith and Jennings....Dumars is clueless and has proven so for many many years now...great player...incompetent GM who got lucky one time....lets hope he stays there so he can keep his team where it rightly belongs...in the basement along with the city...

Watched the start of the game and it's amazing how sometimes Smith doesn't feel trying and will jack up another shot. It's really irritating cause the lane is open sometimes, you know he has excellent ability to drive but no he will stay where he is and will shoot the ball.

I don't like Stan Van Gundy a lot but we thank him for this compliment

Stan Van Gundy on the Pacers: "They play the best team defense I've seen in my 18 years in the league." We'll play the interview today.

The Pistons suck....anyone with any intelligence knew they would when they brought in Smith and Jennings....Dumars is clueless and has proven so for many many years now...great player...incompetent GM who got lucky one time....lets hope he stays there so he can keep his team where it rightly belongs...in the basement along with the city...

I don't get why some people get so much enjoyment out of trolling our resident Pistons fans when those people have nothing but good words to say about our team.

Tonight, all flags must burn, in place of steeples.
Autonomy must return into the hands of the people.

What if someone from a school of business or management school were to ask, How did you do this? How did you get the Pacers turned around? Is there a general approach you've taken that can be summarized?

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Call me a troll, but I really enjoy watching the Pistons lose (and probably always will). I have nothing against KStat or shags, who I think are both good basketball fans...I'm sure they understand there are some Pistons haters on a Pacers message board.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying a team you don't like losing games, it's when it crosses over to specifying certain posters or enjoying the struggles of an actual city itself that I think it becomes pretty bad.

Call me a troll, but I really enjoy watching the Pistons lose (and probably always will). I have nothing against KStat or shags, who I think are both good basketball fans...I'm sure they understand there are some Pistons haters on a Pacers message board.

Nothing wrong with disliking the Pistons. I understand that there is a history between their team and ours.

I mean if it makes me a troll to see they are a train wreck, then so be it. If you've watched them for 10 minutes it would be tough not to come away with the same feeling.

Josh Smith got benched for a huge portion of the game in Oakland last night.

Nah, it doesn't make you a troll to call them a train wreck or anything. I'd just say that it's too early to judge them as a team. Personally, I disagreed with the Jennings trade as I consider Knight to be a better player than him but I had nothing against the Smith signing. He has a lot of value on the defensive end and Detroit could form a great defense with him and Drummond.

There's nothing wrong with enjoying a team you don't like losing games, it's when it crosses over to specifying certain posters or enjoying the struggles of an actual city itself that I think it becomes pretty bad.

Totally disagree. Shags is one of the smartest posters on this board in my opinion. He's a little rose colored when it comes to his own team but so what, who isn't. But most importantly he knows hes on a Pacers board and respects such and is most often times complimentary of the Pacers instead of looking for every opportunity to disparage them.

There....fixed.

I would even say in spite of my bitter hatred for the Pistons and Pistons fans, I have the utmost respect for Shags and he is one of my personal favorites on this board for his concise and well thought out insight.