Sunday, August 8, 2010

Then this is the job for you! It is a full time entry-level position for recent law school graduates who just spent $5,000 to study and take the bar exam. You'll work in the Chicago Loop so no one will ever guess that you are getting paid slightly more than a fast food worker to practice law. Who cares about rent for a Chicago apartment, food, or those pesky student loan payments? Considering that U.S. Attorneys' offices across the country are hiring entry level prosecutors to work for $0, this is an opportunity you CANNOT pass up. Apply now!

Did you just take the Bar Exam? (Loop)

Date: 2010-08-05, 6:32PM CDTReply to: job-ebupe-1882954368@craigslist.org[Errors when replying to ads?]We are looking for a recent law school graduate to assist in our busy litigation practice.The position allows you to work with and learn from experienced litigators but also requires a great deal of administrative and clerical work.The successful candidate will work directly with an attorney and be intimately involved with every aspect of the day to day litigation process.This is an excellent opportunity to acquire a great deal of marketable experience in a short period of time.The position is full time and pays $10.00 per hour.Please forward a resume if interested.

Location: Loop

Compensation: $10.00 per hour

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Yes, law must be a very lucrative "profession." It amazes me that the industry apologist cockroaches come on my site, and have the gall - and the lack of brains - to argue that there are not to many lawyers in the U.S.

This is not directed at anyone in particular, but I really feel like the whole anti-law school movement needs to be more centralized.

I understand that many bloggers think that the more blogs there are, the better. However, I kinda feel the opposite. I'm not even sure how many anti-law school bloggers there are at this point.

If it helps at all, this particular blog is one of the handful that I actually bother to click on. But I can see the headlines for sister blogs on the side, and the first couple of sentences.

My point is, there is only so much news out there, and many of the blogs are repetitive. Maybe this was more noticeable last week. But I was frankly surprised that all the dozen or so blogs moved together on the same stories.

If I recall correctly, they were:1. NYTimes story about American lawyers looking to relocate to India.2. The hunger strike3. The video game design grad who is now a stripper.

Now, I'm sure not all the blogs moved together, but it was plain to see that multiple blogs did.

I bring this up because I remember seeing this Chicago $10/hr already. Perhaps on jdu, perhaps on atl. Perhaps both. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that. But at some point, this really becomes repetitive. At worse, it decreases the credibility of the movement because people then just think all the blogs are sock puppets of the same couple guys. Or that the blogs are merely echo chambers and that dozen or so people simply reinforce each others' ideas without getting a dose of outside opinion. It also feels like this echo chamber effect strengthens when the same dozen or so bloggers comment on each others blogs. It presents a possibility that the bloggers are simply caught up in a feedback loop constantly reinforcing each other with negative opinions.

The blogger movement probably needs to centralize. More importantly, the movement needs to have less people saying the same exact stuff.

Unless you are in a stem line of education there really isn't much point. I work with so called college graduates who should have gotten their money back they were so utterly stupid. I often wondered how these mouth breathers ever graduated with their edumacation at all. Not only did they lack a lot of requisite soft skills a vast majority could not even write a coherent sentence or outline a plan. Sadly that describes the shillster 'attorneys' I have had the misfortune to deal with. So is it worth getting a degree? If you are my doctor, fuck yes. But your JD, BA BFA or whatever? I really couldn't give a shit. And yes I am in software engineering and have pulled 70 to 150 per year for nearly 20 years now. What's that you ask? My degree? I dropped out my junior year in college. All I have is a HSD from a community college. And the people working for me were making 65 to 115 and when I needed desperately to hire more people I could not find four qualified people for jobs with FULL BENEFITS and salaries from 80 to 110. I still could not fill those positions even now.

As a citizen, I have been wondering for a while whether it makes a difference hiring a large firm vs. small firm vs. solo practice lawyer when I need someone to represent me. Do layers from large firms win more cases than ones from smaller firms/solo practitioners? Would I be charged differently by the two groups? Why can larger firms pay higher salaries than smaller firms? Because larger firms win more cases than smaller firms? Thanks a lot!

There are different lawyers for different purposes. As a citizen, you can't typically walk into a very large firm and retain them, unless you are wealthy or famous. I don't think that large firm lawyers necessarily do better work than small firm. And sometimes the fees for a small firm can be high, depending on the area of the law. But they both serve their purposes. I doubt I would trust a small firm with Mergers and Acquisitions, but I wouldn't trust them with a custody battle. Winning and losing is all in the eye of the beholder.. remember that most cases settle!