I wouldn't say hes been overhyped at all. He is a very nice horse that broke a world record last year as a 2 year old. You don't need to look at his lines from last year even to see he has quality, his qualifiers told anybody thats been around in this business, hes a very nice horse. Back halfs in 56 with last 1/4's in 27 obviously under wraps for a 3 year old on a 5/8 track spells quality.

One start making a break in a 3 year old debut does not give you a true read on this horse. See how he does over his next couple of starts and then judge. My bet is you may change your mind in underestimating his ability.

Horse was once again ultra impressive and what a visually impressive horse. Big, powerful with a great gait. Skies the limit for this guy. By the way I wonder if he is gonna get a fullpage milk carton ad now ?

Horse was once again ultra impressive and what a visually impressive horse. Big, powerful with a great gait. Skies the limit for this guy. By the way I wonder if he is gonna get a fullpage milk carton ad now ?

But anyway i'll eat crow when im wrong and i guess im wrong on this one !!!

I'll admit when im wrong ~

I give you props sir, most on here cant do that. I was skeptical of this horse too! obviously after seeing him on the big track He's a monster, He's HUGE, his gait is excellent covers HUGE ground, came home in 27 flat yesterday and wasnt even asked did it effortlessly, WOW! I wonder what he is eligible to be staked to?

I give you props sir, most on here cant do that. I was skeptical of this horse too! obviously after seeing him on the big track He's a monster, He's HUGE, his gait is excellent covers HUGE ground, came home in 27 flat yesterday and wasnt even asked did it effortlessly, WOW! I wonder what he is eligible to be staked to?

sadly they say he's not eligible to hambo and no supplemental nominations

But anyway i'll eat crow when im wrong and i guess im wrong on this one !!!

I'll admit when im wrong ~

If I owned half he would have been sold last fall.

I enjoy the sport and good stories about the sport.

Unlike many of you mindless drones who only follow it and bet. So you can lose and then cry about it after and be miserable about it all.

If I hated something I simply wouldn't follow it. That's why I don't even know who won the Derby nor care. But I'm not on a a derby site crying about how bad it sucks. But there seems like groups of you people who are just little cry babies. I usually totally ignore you and your group but when you make a thread about something I care about I am forced to respond. Carry on.

I give you props sir, most on here cant do that. I was skeptical of this horse too! obviously after seeing him on the big track He's a monster, He's HUGE, his gait is excellent covers HUGE ground, came home in 27 flat yesterday and wasnt even asked did it effortlessly, WOW! I wonder what he is eligible to be staked to?

He is in the Dancer.

Hopefully he will face the Hambo winner after the hambo at some point. Probably will face the eventual winner in the Dancer.

Unlike many of you mindless drones who only follow it and bet. So you can lose and then cry about it after and be miserable about it all.

If I hated something I simply wouldn't follow it. That's why I don't even know who won the Derby nor care. But I'm not on a a derby site crying about how bad it sucks. But there seems like groups of you people who are just little cry babies. I usually totally ignore you and your group but when you make a thread about something I care about I am forced to respond. Carry on.

If anyone doubted this horses ability, just have a look at his race tonight at Pocono. Only word to describe this horse is WOW !! One of the most impressive races for a trotter I have ever witnessed in all my years.

If anyone doubted this horses ability, just have a look at his race tonight at Pocono. Only word to describe this horse is WOW !! One of the most impressive races for a trotter I have ever witnessed in all my years.

6 4°/1H 1/1Q 1/1H 1/4 1/7 1:51.3 Under wraps

27.0 56.0 1:23.3 1:51.3

Yea will be interesting too see how fast he can go if the ear plugs are ever popped and he gets some urging. Hes a freak.

Is this horse now the savior to the North American trotter that has become so inbreed, or will all his pacing blood only screw up the trotting breed for generations to come?Will he strengthen the trotting gene pool or seriously dilute and harm it?If you had a top trotting brood mare would you breed to him?Would/will you buy his yearlings?I can't think of any successful trotting sire with anywhere near his am out of pacing blood.