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Possible Troll? I just can't imagine anyone actually saying that and meaning it.

I hope he has a (treatable) STD, just so he can blame himself for not wearing a condom. Although, I'm sure he'd contrive a way to make that her fault too. "She should've worn a dental dam, the classless slag!"

If we're shooting for efficiency 10 200lbs guys is a little much. Now 4 500 pounders is good but we'd have to get them out of the house and paying for a crane is expensive. I'd say 6 350 lbs guys is a little over but far more efficient.

Hey, first thing this slut isn't my girl. Not even close.... she was just someone i hooked up with. My girlfriend is not at all like her, and it terrifies me that i may loose her because she is really awesome and our relationship has been so, so good. It makes me want to cry taht i may end up losing her, who ir eally care aobut over that stupid, slut who can't take her own bc on time.

I have a really strong suspicion that she slept around. I didn't literally see anyone else but her reputation is that she sleeps around, sleeps with taken guys, whores around (like two guys one night). So its pretty safe to say, she wasn't little miss faithful. But yeah i could be the dad, which is why its so scary. [screenshot]

It's particularly awful because you'd think "this guy is deleting his comments because he's ashamed of himself" but, nope, this is still in his comment history, so the above comment was deleted by the /r/relationships mods.

80% of the threads on /r/relationships are like that. People are at a place where they want to do X but know deep down that it's the wrong thing to do, though it's so much easier just to do X. So they come to /r/relationships and say "thanks so much!" and "great thinking!" when someone tells them to do X because it's what they want to do. They want to absolve themselves of the nagging guilt and "this is the wrong thing to do long-term" uneasiness - they want to be told that doing what they want to do already is the right move, and they'll grasp any straws that are given to them.

So what you're saying is that if he entirely alters the story and then asked for advice based on an entirely different set of events then he will receive different advice/feedback? ... No shit...

Kind of a dip-shit point to be honest. If you posted a story about "spermjacking" on ANY sub including SRS based ones you're going to get a much more sympathetic respond than this. It has nothing to do with /r/rage in particular.

If he has a clear head on, he'll probably look for advice at /r/socialengineering to manipulate her into aborting, and Wikipedia chemistry articles just to make sure with a forced abortion. And if she's so "unclassy," he can probably just try repeatedly getting her drunk and damaging the foetus.

A man and a woman had sex, he chose to not use a condom, and then she got pregnant? Wow, how did he not see that coming?!

Seriously though, I know so many people my age who say they hardly ever use protection. That's disgusting. Not only do you run the risk of getting the girl pregnant, but the kind of people who are willing to have unprotected sex with you are probably the kind of people who have had unprotected sex with a bunch of people.... and are much more likely to have something.

Except "get an abortion" is the very first comment in every single one of these threads. Adoption is downvoted, and daring to mention keeping the child is literally ruining lives. There's a third human party to consider. It's neither the mother nor father's body.

You're right. It does take two to tango, and they are both at fault here.

The point I personally see us that they are both at fault. They each share blame, responsibility. However, only one party has any command over the situation. The woman will make the final choice, independent of the man if she chooses, and force the man to live with the choice of her actions. The man has no such option. If she aborts and he wants the kid, though shit. If he doesn't want it, again, tough shit.

I don't see any real way to fix it, either. I just think it's.. odd.. That they both share blame in the mistake, yet the woman takes control completely. Telling the man his only option was to not have sex seems.. again, odd, considering the woman has that choice plus every other.

This is only in extreme cases, though (abortion, resulting in permanent removing of the child.) Once the child is born, the man, for all intents and purposes, has the equal "choice"in decisions in the childs life.

I think what it comes down to is the asymmetry of pregnancy. It's true the woman has the most choice durring the 9 months, but also for that time, she carries a proportional (i.e. Vast majority) of the work involved.

What it comes down to is abortion. Can you force the woman to abort, OR force her to carry? Both sound like awful things that violate nearly every human right I can think of. But it still leaves the man in a sour state if his views completely oppose that of the woman.

Sadly, I don't see any clear solution. Closest thing I see is the father being absolved of ALL responsibility and privilege of the child if he so chooses. That means no right in the child lifes life, but also no responsibility to support it.

But THAT leaves the mom in a shitty place. It indirectly forces the mom to get an abortion if she can't support herself, or live on government assistance, which raises the "the tax payer shouldn't pay for their mistake"thing.

meh, reddit gets crazy over this topic. I think I understand both sides. I just personally think that what we have now is a ok system. You were perfectly respectful in tone and everything and I hope I was as well.

No, they don't. Contrary to popular belief, you cannot "sign over your rights" as a father. Think about it: if that were true, we wouldn't even be having this conversation regarding the /r/relationships post, because any male who didn't want to be a father would simply "sign away his rights" and be done with it.

Granted, she's obviously not the brightest either, considering she's willing to have unprotected sex with multiple partners. There's nothing wrong with being promiscuous, but at least be safe about it. Personally, I think they're both pretty fucking stupid and probably shouldn't procreate.

Eh, I can't agree or disagree about her intelligence. But I wanna point out that HE assumed she was having unprotected sex with multiple people, because she's not "classy." He admits himself that he's only guessing though. For all he knows (and for all we know), he was the only one she was sleeping with at that time.

That's actually a very good point. But, frankly, I still think they're both extremely stupid and incredibly irresponsible. It's not difficult to put on a condom, nor is it particularly taxing to take your birth control pill everyday. I've been doing it for 5 years and, guess what, no babies (or abortions... which would have been the more likely outcome). I don't think it's too much to ask for 20 year olds to take some responsibility for their sex lives.

I'm not familiar with the concept of financial abortion. I'm gonna look that up. Is it safe to assume that it means the father would have the option to not pay child support if he did not want to keep the child?

Birth control pills aren't 100%. Even then, considering how much he looks down on her, and his various accusations about her sleeping with half the campus, he should've worn a condom. He definitely has 50% in this situation, and he should pay the consequences.