"Ray Donovan" on Showtime

Perhaps one of the actors I hate the most. He's a total douchebag I hear from my friends who've worked with him.

by Anonymous

reply 1

07/06/2013

I've heard the same, but maybe that's why I kind of liked it - he plays a total douche bag, and it fits . Think It has potential. The Jon Voight character looks like a good enemy for Schriber.

by Anonymous

reply 3

07/06/2013

Great show. Just watched the pilot. Those evil Catholics. Irish Sopranos. Priest/altar boy relations and consequences.

by Anonymous

reply 5

07/07/2013

This Ray Donovan series is GOOD.

by Anonymous

reply 6

07/07/2013

He even LOOKS like a douchebag r1

by Anonymous

reply 7

07/08/2013

Loved the Chicks with Dicks subplot. Think there will be a lot of "loosely based on actual events" intrigue. It worked for YEARS on Law & Order, no doubt there is FAR more such material in LA. I WILL be watching. Especially since he dyed that pervey stalker green!

by Anonymous

reply 8

07/08/2013

Why is he so hateful and douchey?

by Anonymous

reply 9

07/08/2013

How appropriate to have Austin Nichols in that plotline.

It KILLS me that Jon Voight is so good in this.

by Anonymous

reply 10

07/08/2013

I agree that Jon Voight is excellent in this.

by Anonymous

reply 12

07/08/2013

[quote]he dyed that pervy stalker green

Yeah, where did that come from?

by Anonymous

reply 13

07/08/2013

I think Liev Schreiber is very good in the role. Strong, silent and imposing. That's the character in a nutshell. Why is Ray Donovan such an asshole? Have you noticed that his father is clearly a douchebag?

Jon Voight is excellent, btw...damn it.

by Anonymous

reply 15

07/08/2013

I won't watch it because I detest Jon Voight that much. He's repulsive.

by Anonymous

reply 16

07/08/2013

This is similar to the Courtney Cox vehicle "Dirt" in the way that it appropriates the real personal lives of HW types into the plot. It's nicely done. Of course, the person Ray is based on has one of the worst reputations ever.

by Anonymous

reply 17

07/08/2013

It is hard to watch Jon Voight, R16. True.

by Anonymous

reply 18

07/08/2013

The second episode continued the wonderfulness of this new show.

by Anonymous

reply 19

07/08/2013

R17, I thought of "Dirt" also when watching RD. Who is the Ray Donovan character supposed to be based on?

by Anonymous

reply 20

07/08/2013

The first four episodes of this were all very good. The third episode in particular I loved. Can't wait to see the rest of the series now.

by Anonymous

reply 21

07/08/2013

RE 17 Is the person he's based on that sleeze ( who's in prison), Anthony Pelicano? If not , who ?

by Anonymous

reply 22

07/08/2013

You got it, r22. I will try and mark out who the characters are supposed to be as the season progresses. I invite others to join me in making the Roman à clef.

There is some amalgamation going on with the movie star character, naturally he can't be based on only one guy.

by Anonymous

reply 23

07/08/2013

r21 but haven't there only been four episodes aired thus far? :O

by Anonymous

reply 24

07/08/2013

R24 Hence R21's tag "Showtime Spy."

by Anonymous

reply 25

07/08/2013

R24, there've only been two episodes aired so far.

by Anonymous

reply 26

07/08/2013

I saw the pilot through Showtime On Demand. It was so goddamned slow and dull that I had no problem writing this off. And given the fact that piece of shit Jon Voight is a series regular, [italic]Ray Donovan[/italic] deserves to fail.

by Anonymous

reply 27

07/08/2013

I can't stand that Schriber guy. Mediocre actor, who spends most of his time mumbling. Plus he's so fuckin ugly he's hard to look at.

by Anonymous

reply 28

07/08/2013

R27, what are some of your TV favorites?

by Anonymous

reply 29

07/08/2013

So is the son gay or what?

by Anonymous

reply 30

07/08/2013

Want to like it but much of the first two episodes were too pat or far-fetched. Could use a touch of subtlety.

by Anonymous

reply 31

07/09/2013

It looks as if we're going to find out, R30.

by Anonymous

reply 32

07/09/2013

They're setting him up with the Austin Nichols character, right? What that says about Nichols's character is actually kind of gross: He's gay! He's into transexuals! He likes little boys!

by Anonymous

reply 33

07/09/2013

I'm trying to like it, but I despise Voight, and that's making it difficult.

The Hollywood Fixer part is interesting, but I'm already bored by brothers and their endless problems. That reminds me of all the freaks back on the compound in Big Love, and I don't see where it's going to go anywhere.

When he gets the fax about the dead priest at the end of the last episode, was that smile a "glad to see he got what was coming to him" smile, or a "now I've got something on Dad" smile?

by Anonymous

reply 34

07/09/2013

I don't know. It's well done. But yet another cable show with "edge" or it's "dark" or whatever you want to call it. Schreiber is a good actor but hardly conventionally attractive--and that's a plus for me. I guess it's better than Boardwalk Empire. But geez, you watch enough of these cable shows and you feel like jumping out a window.

by Anonymous

reply 35

07/09/2013

Interesting, R35, comparing it to Boardwalk Empire. I couldn't sit through two episodes of that, but I am loving Ray Donovan.

R34, I'm not sure what that smile meant either. It's not clear from Ray's flashbacks whether he, too, was molested by a priest.

R33, yeah, I think Tommy and Conor are going to be some sort of a thing, though I'm not sure how far they'll let it go. Conor may not let Tommy into his pants, even as cool as Conor thinks -- any boy would think -- Tommy is.

I guess celebrities hold sway over us the way the Catholic Church did, is the point of this storyline. Because of Ray's powerful position, when his son's molestation happens -- and I guess it "happens in families" -- it will be at the hands of a Tom Cruise-like figure. They even named him "Tommy."

by Anonymous

reply 36

07/09/2013

[quote]it will be at the hands of a Tom Cruise-like figure. They even named him "Tommy.

Oh, never made that connection, good call. What's great is that Cruise's people certainly did make the connection, and you know it's driving them crazy.

by Anonymous

reply 37

07/09/2013

I think Liev Schreiber's best performance is as a cross-dresser in "Mixed Nuts." Seriously. It was the first time I'd ever seen him and it's the role with which I immediately identify him.

by Anonymous

reply 38

07/09/2013

So the storyline about the actor getting busted for picking up a transvestite is CLEARLY based on Eddie Murphy. Ray Donovan is Paul Barresi.

Only instead of throwing the tranny out the window, Ray gives him/her money for his operation. Ray is Paul Barresi with with heart of GOLD.

by Anonymous

reply 39

07/10/2013

R39 - Paul Barresi?? You are out of your mind.

by Anonymous

reply 40

07/10/2013

I am so loving Ray Donovan. He is slick, sexy and tough. I too loved him In one of my favorite films Walk on the Moon.

by Anonymous

reply 41

07/10/2013

I'm not out of my mind. Read the account of PB's involvement in the Eddie Murphy scandal. I'm not saying Donovan is BASED on him, but in that situation he is the Barrisi.

by Anonymous

reply 42

07/10/2013

I loved Walk on the Moon, too, R41. Liev as a red hot Jewboy in 1969: what's not to love?

by Anonymous

reply 43

07/10/2013

I LOVE this show.

by Anonymous

reply 45

07/14/2013

SPOILER:

:

:

Bunchy lied about getting molested. You can figure out the rest.

by Anonymous

reply 46

07/15/2013

I loathe Jon Voight, too, but he's quite good in this. Joe Buck is brilliant at playing sleazeballs.

by Anonymous

reply 47

07/15/2013

Didn't think I'd like the show, but I like it more after every episode. Ray Donovan is not the greatest actor, but is hot, and that sort of evens it out for me. I've never liked Jon Voight, but must admit he's great at playing a bastard. I think the son is gay, or at least is leaning that way.

by Anonymous

reply 48

07/15/2013

[quote]I think Liev Schreiber's best performance is as a cross-dresser in "Mixed Nuts."

He was also good as a cross-dresser in "Taking Woodstock."

by Anonymous

reply 49

07/15/2013

To R48:

That smile on his face as he watched the poster on the side of the bus of that actor in rehab - along with Mickey asking him if he were gay when they were shopping pretty much said it all.

by Anonymous

reply 50

07/15/2013

I really like this show

by Anonymous

reply 51

07/15/2013

[quote]SPOILER:

Holy shit. If true, it all makes sense why Bunchy is all weird about the settlement money and uncomfortable in that group of guys who actually *did* get molested.

by Anonymous

reply 52

07/15/2013

The best thing about the show is Paula Malcolmson.

by Anonymous

reply 53

07/15/2013

Enough with the shrew wife already! I cannot believe there is one single person watching this show who doesn’t want to see much, much less of her storyline.

Or, at least, I believed that until I read this:

[quote]The best thing about the show is Paula Malcolmson.

I think she's the worst thing about the show, although the fugly daughter and Voight's obnoxious character are close. Voight's character needs to be a LOT more interesting for me to think it's worthwhile putting up with his vile presence on screen.

by Anonymous

reply 54

07/16/2013

I can't say I found this week's episode all that gripping. I'm all for slow burns, but they need to just come out and tell us what's going on with Elliot Gould. I'm dangerously close to hitting the FF button every time he appears.

by Anonymous

reply 55

07/16/2013

With the exception of Elliot Gould and Peter Jacobsen I have yet to find a likable character. I only watch it because I can't find anything else to watch.

by Anonymous

reply 56

07/16/2013

R54, I just love Paula. I think she's the most underrated actress around.

by Anonymous

reply 57

07/16/2013

Can I have a falafel with hot sauce, a side order of Baba Ghanoush and a seltzer, please?

by Anonymous

reply 58

07/17/2013

It's been renewed for season 2. I hope Austin Nichols is in it more.

by Anonymous

reply 59

07/17/2013

Original music is A+

by Anonymous

reply 60

07/18/2013

How gay is Liev?

He is like the ultimate bear. Any chance that he and Naomi Watts are both bi?

by Anonymous

reply 61

07/18/2013

R53 = her PR or her agent.

Just watched the latest episode on demand. I hate her character, she is unwatchable esp without make-up. her voice is annoying as fuck.

I hope Ray divorces her.

by Anonymous

reply 62

07/18/2013

WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO SEE JON VOIGHT FUCKING ON SCREEN???? eeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!

by Anonymous

reply 63

07/21/2013

Big ol Mary at R63. Get a grip.

by Anonymous

reply 64

07/22/2013

Lots of homosexuality on this show.

by Anonymous

reply 65

07/22/2013

[quote]Lots of homosexuality on this show.

It would be better if they have Tommy Wheeler as a regular.

by Anonymous

reply 66

07/22/2013

The wife character is too much like Carmela Soprano, they need to give her something to do.

I liked when the son Connor, donked that little shithead son of the creepy guy.

John V's character is growing on me. The scenes with Bunchy and his brother at the pool were funny and also when Bunchy pulled the stolen cognac from his pants at the restaurant.

The FBI agent is weird, I loved seeing Mickey (J.Voight) dancing and drugging at the Buggy Whip.

Last night's episode was great (7/28/13) . Lots going on . The Elliott Gould car hit, handcuffed in the bathroom, Donavan's kid getting drunk, and vomiting on the rapper's watches, and the poor sap, Terry , finding out his new girlfriend is married. It's picking up, and I'm loving it.

by Anonymous

reply 70

07/29/2013

Exactly right, R70. LOTS of story lines. A lot to follow. Do we know yet what Elliot Gould and Peter Jacobson actually do? Lawyers? Still confusing things.

by Anonymous

reply 71

07/29/2013

Forgot about the wanna be rapper's mother being killed. A lot in that show.

by Anonymous

reply 72

07/29/2013

I thought he vomited on his dad's watches.

by Anonymous

reply 73

07/30/2013

I used to love the show "Dirt" but "Ray Donovan" is a much better show. And I'm so happy to see my girl Katherine Moennig again - she's hot as ever! Hope they expand her role.

by Anonymous

reply 76

07/30/2013

Would someone please explain to me what is likeable about this show. I keep watching it because there is nothing else on but with the exception of Jon Voight's character, I these characters are terrible.

Ray's an asshole, his wife is a Carmen Soprano wannabe, the kids are OK but nothing special and Ray's brothers are dirtbags. Usually when the characters are this dark you can find a redeeming quality in them.

Eliot Gould and Peter Jacobsen are good but not on long enough. So what is it?

by Anonymous

reply 77

07/30/2013

I think Francis getting paid by Ray to date and have sex with Terry.

by Anonymous

reply 78

07/30/2013

[quote]And I'm so happy to see my girl Katherine Moennig again - she's hot as ever!

Who does she play here?

by Anonymous

reply 79

07/30/2013

[quote]Ray's an asshole, his wife is a Carmen Soprano wannabe, the kids are OK but nothing special and Ray's brothers are dirtbags. Usually when the characters are this dark you can find a redeeming quality in them.

You know R77, they have channels now that only have shows like The Brady Bunch, Happy Days, The Golden Girls, etc. You might like that!

by Anonymous

reply 80

07/30/2013

[quote]Who does she play here?

Lena, Ray's assistant.

by Anonymous

reply 81

07/30/2013

Last week's episode ended with Voight at a gay club dancing and doing poppers. Couldn't figure out how that related to the plot.

by Anonymous

reply 82

07/30/2013

R80, I get that this is a dark drama but usually there is some heart in these characters-something that makes you like them even though they do terrible things.I'm trying to like this show but it's hard.

BTW, I think the best scene so far was Jon Voight in the gay bar. He seems to be the only one with personality.

by Anonymous

reply 83

07/30/2013

Terry is one of the few characters I truly care about (Eddie Marsan is just genius in whatever he does), so my heart broke for him when he showed up at her house. You just knew he was going to go there and of course find out she has some sort of "secret" after being evasive about seeing him that night "Can I see you tonight?" "Maybe".

He is so painfully shy and emotionally wounded he probably hasn't had sex or a date with a woman in years. She pursued him. She obviously gets out of the house. She seems to be jealous of the dead girlfriend/wife. She knows he has her cellphone and work numbers. Maybe she's not really married, or there is some type of explanation for this.

How could a nurse who is (supposedly) educated and seems like a nice and kind person not know you don't screw with the head of a really shy guy,a BOXER with Parkinson's (who could still beat someone to a pulp) , who tattooed a woman's name on his body because she meant something important to him? It's obvious he doesn't have money so what would be in this for her other than really liking him?

Hopefully this turns out to be a terrible mistake. Otherwise, there's not really another truly sympathetic character to root for. If Frances is toying with him,(or a hooker paid for by Ray--I doubt it) then he will either explode after years of mental and physical pain and hurt her, or else he will go back in his shell and never come out again.

by Anonymous

reply 84

07/30/2013

It's called complicated characters people - and it's what many of us are in real life. That's why the show is so interesting, and will unfortunately not run that long, because mass audiences (at least here , in the US) like everything spelled out for them, and don't get nuance, or subtlety.

by Anonymous

reply 85

07/30/2013

True R85, But because it is on Showtime, it has a shot. Thankfully, for people who actually like great story lines and complicated characters, there are channels like HBO, Showtime and FX and A&E.

by Anonymous

reply 86

07/30/2013

There are alot of good shows on cable with complicated characters. I just don't think this is one of them

by Anonymous

reply 87

07/31/2013

[quote]There are alot of good shows on cable with complicated characters. I just don't think this is one of them

Agreed. I really had hopes for this. It started out promisingly, but more and more it feels like an imitation of a top-shelf cable show. There's just something missing from its core. There's no undercurrent to pull you through, just lots of cool surface details.

by Anonymous

reply 88

08/02/2013

R88 nailed it.

by Anonymous

reply 89

08/02/2013

[quote]R88] nailed it.

LOL, because they agreed with you.

by Anonymous

reply 90

08/02/2013

I just started watching. I love it and I have always respected Schreiber as an actor but he's the male equivalent of a buttaface. Great bod but he looks like a lipless chipmunk.

A relative of mine met him in NY. She posted pics of her with him and said he was really nice. Maybe he's a dick to crew but he's nice to his fans and that's pretty cool.

by Anonymous

reply 91

08/02/2013

I also want to like this show mostly because of Schreiber, There really is no depth to the stories and characters.

by Anonymous

reply 92

08/02/2013

What was the point of Mickey going to the gay bar? Is he bisexual?

by Anonymous

reply 93

08/03/2013

[quote]What was the point of Mickey going to the gay bar? Is he bisexual?

No, it's just the writers being "edgy" and "outrageous".

by Anonymous

reply 94

08/03/2013

Well, he did give that little speech to his grandson about how getting your dick sucked by another guy doesn't make you a fag--a mouth's a mouth, he said. He was probably getting nostalgic for some of the kind of man-sucking he got in prison.

by Anonymous

reply 95

08/03/2013

[quote] Agreed. I really had hopes for this. It started out promisingly, but more and more it feels like an imitation of a top-shelf cable show. There's just something missing from its core. There's no undercurrent to pull you through, just lots of cool surface details.

I agree. I've recently started watching it on demand and I really wanted to like it. But it doesn't make sense in so many ways. A clued-in guy like Ray would know that his fathers getting out 5 years early and showing up in LA immediately after release means someone wants him to inform. I mean, ever heard of parole? You don't just get released 5 years early and get on the next plan to CA.

The brothers don't interest me. I can't see how anyone would be sexually or otherwise interested in the mute, morose, Parkinsonian Terry, even if she was once held in a cellar by Jame Gumb and told to put the lotion on her skin.

I couldn't tell the different between the stalker and the guy who was banging the blonde chick.

I have to read recaps of episodes to find out what's going on. I guess my mind wanders. I didn't know who the black guy was who was staple-gunned.

It's Mystic River in LA but it doesn't work. It's all plot and no heart.

by Anonymous

reply 96

08/04/2013

You're all nuts and have been watching too many Real Housewives shit on Bravo.

I wanted to like this show but it's not as great as I thought it would be.

I won't be watching it tonight thanks to TWC but I won't miss it.

by Anonymous

reply 99

08/04/2013

Yet another person here who really wanted to like this show, but just hasn't been impressed.

For me, the biggest problem is too much boring family shit (seriously, I don't give a fuck about any of them), not remotely enough Hollywood fixing.

by Anonymous

reply 100

08/04/2013

Exactly R100. If you're going to do all that boring Irish American Boston shit then why bother setting the show in LA? It's like "We're doing a gritty tv show version of Mystic River but we know we can't get away with it so we'll thrown in a bit of Hollywood glitz."

I already saw Mystic River and The Departed.

I'm not interested in the -down-on-his-luck-boxer-brother. This isn't 1956 and we're not on the waterfront. I don't care about the pretend-abused-by-a-priest-brother or the OMG-I-have-a-black-brother or the -dead-sister-who-will-be-shown-in-flashbacks-and-was-probably-pushed-off-the-roof.

And can nobody find Irish American actors? Even an Affleck or a Wahlberg would do. Can you imagine Tony and Janice Soprano being played by Jewish actors of Eastern European descent? Come on. My best friend has an enormously talented nephew who is Irish American who could slide right into one of the show's roles. It's not as if they don't exist. Hollywood used to be full of Irish American actors. Even the wife isn't Irish American, she's an Irish actress (which is totally not the same as Irish Anerican).

Yeah, I know actors of different backgrounds can play characters, but again, take a look at the Sopranos. The fact that the show's creator and the actors are almost all Italian gave it real heart and cred. I grew up around northeastern Italian Americans and the Sopranos nailed it. Not the criminal aspect of it -- the family aspect, the food, the heart of it.

This show has no heart because it's a bunch of people who aren't Irish American writing a show about Boston Irish Americans played by people who aren't Irish American. There's not a speck of authenticity. Then they plop it down in LA. It's a mish mosh. It wants to be gritty, glitzy, modern, nostalgic. It doesn't work.

I wish it did.

by Anonymous

reply 101

08/04/2013

yeah, R101, I agree. They should get rid of the wife, she's really annoying. Ray should divorce the wife and hook up with all the hollyweird actresses, musicans etc. The show will be more interesting that way.

Please don't make us watch sex scenes with Jon Voight. Nobody wants to see that!

by Anonymous

reply 102

08/04/2013

Theyre trying to do a "he's a family man, but he's a criminal. How will he balance the two lives?" a la Tony Soprano. But nobody's interested. He's in Hollywoof, for Christ's sake, not north jersey. Show us how the underside of Hollywood works, not how the underside of Hollywood works when a family man tries to balance two lives. Hollywood overshadows the petty criminal background and dysfunctionality of this loser family. Get on with it.

by Anonymous

reply 103

08/04/2013

So now this thread is basically just a circle jerk of how much a few of you hate the show.

by Anonymous

reply 104

08/04/2013

I've only seen three or four eps and I'm not sure if the wife knows what he does for a living and I don't really care.

by Anonymous

reply 105

08/04/2013

As opposed to a circle jerk of those praising the show.

by Anonymous

reply 106

08/04/2013

I don't hate the show and I'm still watching but I have to agree with R101. and R103. I'm trying, but I find the show difficult to follow and boring at times. I am capable of following complex plots and characters but this show just doesn't grab me. I agree with the previous poster who said that Micky Donovan is the most (only?) interesting character on the show. The wife is awful and annoying. The brothers are boring. I would like to see more of the Hollywood angle and less of the Boston/Irish/gangster angle.

by Anonymous

reply 107

08/04/2013

Not even Ray Donovan could fix this steaming pile of shit.

by Anonymous

reply 108

08/04/2013

James Woods laying in bed with a woman his own age. Now I've seen everything.

by Anonymous

reply 109

08/05/2013

I've never met anyone outside of Boston who has a heavy Boston accent. When people from Boston move elsewhere, they become acutely aware of their Boston accents because everyone keeps remarking upon it.

"Did you just say cahhh for car? OMG!"

They quickly adopt a less region-specific way of talking, except for the older generations of Kennedys.

So the wife's crazy annoying Boston accent is just stupid. It's exaggerated to begin with and she would have toned it down in LA.

by Anonymous

reply 110

08/05/2013

I've watched 3.5 episodes and these Irish Anerican boys have never mentioned their mother? That's soooo not Irish-American.

by Anonymous

reply 111

08/05/2013

Maybe they should call Ed Burns in as a writer.

by Anonymous

reply 112

08/05/2013

yeah, totally not realistic, have they even uttered "wicked" every other sentence yet? I don't recall....

by Anonymous

reply 113

08/05/2013

Ray's dad was in prison for 20 years. That means he went into prison in 1993. But he acts like he's been in a coma since 1973. Same with Ray's brothers. They're straight out of a Rocky movie. The gym, the house the brother buys both look like time capsules and both brothers dress and act like mopes brought into the hoosegow on an episode of Barney Miller.

The boxer brother never heard of the Internet to check and see if Jame Gumb's kidnapee is married? Come on. Eighty year olds have iPhones now. This show is time traveling between the present and 40 years ago.

And an FBI agent wouldn't know he's been drugged? Come on. As soon as his desk turned into water he'd know he be trippin and somebody slipped him something. And didn't he have photos of Avi in his basement? He didn't recognize him asking for napkins? And the FBI guy just happens to eat at a counter in a diner every morning and a seat just happened to be available next to him so he could be drugged?

Jon Voigt walks into a bank and demands they cash a 1.4M check on his word that it's real and tells them to hand his son $200? Like he's never been in a bank before and doesn't know how they work? What is he, Balky from Perfect Strangers? Mork from Ork?

This show is too unbelievable.

But that monkey was awesome.

by Anonymous

reply 114

08/05/2013

It's obvious Ray was raped by Mickey

Why else would he be so mad at Mickey? The whole vibe of the show is about male rape.

by Anonymous

reply 115

08/13/2013

I am always amused by Mickey and Bunchy. I can't stand the wife or daughter. I don't think they should have messed with the Armenians.

by Anonymous

reply 116

08/19/2013

I like the hot daddy bear FBI agent.

by Anonymous

reply 117

08/19/2013

Good episode this week. Did anyone watch?

by Anonymous

reply 118

08/27/2013

I tried to watch this show, but it was too gross-stupid.

by Anonymous

reply 120

08/27/2013

I'm with R100. Based on the pilot I thought this was going to be a show focused on Ray's job as a Hollywood fixer. The most interesting parts were about Austin Nichols' closeted actor, the athlete with the dead hooker, and the singer with the stalker. But subsequent episodes put all the focus onto Ray's family. Personally, I could not possibly care less about watching a damaged boxer or guy who was molested by a priest. (And, seriously, wtf kind of name is Bunchy? Only on TV.) I also have no fucking clue what the point of Elliott Gould's character was. And I have no idea why Katherine Moennig even exists on this show.

by Anonymous

reply 121

08/27/2013

They should really get rid of Ray's wife, get a divorce or something, she is unwatchable.

by Anonymous

reply 122

08/27/2013

[quote]But I miss dexter a lot.

You aren't missing anything.

by Anonymous

reply 123

09/01/2013

How many more episodes are there for this season?

by Anonymous

reply 124

09/09/2013

Two

by Anonymous

reply 125

09/09/2013

Jon Voight gets better every week.

by Anonymous

reply 126

09/11/2013

Loving it still.

by Anonymous

reply 127

09/11/2013

I don't get all the negative remarks regarding this show here. Is everyone that programmed to expect such story lines to not like this new approach?

by Anonymous

reply 128

09/11/2013

[quote]I don't get all the negative remarks regarding this show here.

Me either. I think some people just like to complain, R128.

by Anonymous

reply 129

09/11/2013

I think it has gotten better with each episode. Voight's character is a creepy fucker.. damn. The last episode gave me chills. Great stuff.

by Anonymous

reply 130

09/13/2013

Wow! Getting caught up and this last episode was right up there with some of the best TV ever (Priest storyline). Again, wow!!

by Anonymous

reply 131

09/17/2013

yes, it got more exciting. but I still hate the wife. Pls let her divorce him and take the kids.

Poor Ray, he was abused too...

by Anonymous

reply 132

09/17/2013

I liked the show to start and ended the season loving it. The relationship between Ray and his (super creepy) father is very complex and fucked up. Same with his brothers. The whole thing just came together so well. James Woods was pretty exemplary too.

by Anonymous

reply 133

09/23/2013

Showtime has a lot riding on this show.

Which doesn't necessarily mean there will be a Season 2.

by Anonymous

reply 134

09/23/2013

I agree with the poster who said the Hollywood fixer storylines are more interesting but I think the show is pretty good anyway . They definitely need to show more background on Ezra or kill him off . Ray's wife is annoying I guess they want her to be.

by Anonymous

reply 135

09/24/2013

I want to see more cover ups and Hollywood but like the Voight storyline and his performance is peerless.

by Anonymous

reply 136

09/24/2013

I thought it had already been renewed, R134. No?

R135, they are slowly revealing Ezra's backstory. Are you always this impatient? I think it's moving in perfect time.

by Anonymous

reply 137

09/24/2013

Also, R134, Austin Nichols tweeted yesterday:

[quote]RAY DONOVAN ended its season ranked as the highest-rated freshman series in SHOWTIME history, outpacing Homeland season one by 33%.

by Anonymous

reply 138

09/24/2013

Great season finale episode. Looking forward to next season.

by Anonymous

reply 140

09/24/2013

I just finished watching the season finale. It surprises me that Ray would have named his son "Conor," given what happened with Father O'Connor. I know, I know. They're not the same name, but the sound is close enough, it's not a name I'd've given my son.

Cute guy, that Devin Bagby.

by Anonymous

reply 141

09/24/2013

I LOVE this show. Don't get all the hate here. Typical DL bitchy queens I guess.

by Anonymous

reply 142

09/24/2013

There's nothing these cunts love more than to hate, R142.

by Anonymous

reply 143

09/24/2013

When does the new season start?

by Anonymous

reply 144

04/18/2014

Season 2 starts June 29th

by Anonymous

reply 145

04/18/2014

Thanks, R145. Can't wait.

by Anonymous

reply 146

04/18/2014

Season 2 premiers tomorrow

by Anonymous

reply 147

07/12/2014

Does anyone know if this will be coming to Netflix?

by Anonymous

reply 148

07/13/2014

Am watching now, first scene is Ray fucking.

I do not want to see Angie's father fucking. there better not be any scenes of him naked.

by Anonymous

reply 149

07/13/2014

One of my fave shows....but Ann-Maragaret looked flawless but 90% unrecognizable...so much plastic surgery...and I only recognized Sherilyn Fenn by her eyebrows....she could use a little nip tuck! Great show

by Anonymous

reply 150

08/02/2014

I love this show and anticipate it every week, yet I feel like nobody else gives a shit and it is doomed to be cancelled after this season. Is it? I honestly could just watch Liev Schreiber and Ann-Margret in that swanky restaurant for an hour every week that scene was so fucking good (odd continuity errors notwithstanding). Any love?

by Anonymous

reply 151

08/02/2014

I missed last season but watched the marathon Showtime did leading up to Season 2.

I love this show. I find it very engrossing. I love watching damaged people and almost everyone on this show is fucked in some way.

by Anonymous

reply 152

08/02/2014

I must have missed a couple plot points.

What exactly does Hank Azaria's character want ? They made a point saying he was an honest cop yet to me he's allowing Ray to do underhanded shit. I thought he wanted to arrest him?

I also missed how Bunchy met the mom and kid.

I laughed when they showed the wife following a tutorial in how to lose her accent. Someone up thread had mentioned it made no sense for her to keep her Irish accent.

by Anonymous

reply 153

08/04/2014

Bunchy was working in the bike store when the Mom & kid walked in. He overheard the fact that the Mom couldn't afford a bike for the kid so he put an affordable bike together for him and when they came to pick it up the Mom invited Bunchy to dinner.

I can't stand Ray's wife. She reminds me of Carmela Soprano - a bitch who just worries about material stuff.

Great acting and writing on this show.

by Anonymous

reply 154

08/04/2014

I don't enjoy this show anymore. Not a single character worth rooting for.

by Anonymous

reply 155

08/04/2014

The wife doesn't bother me as much as she does some of you.

I'd be a raging bitch too if I was married to Ray. He is not Husband of the Year material.

by Anonymous

reply 156

08/04/2014

It's a great show and keeps you coming back.

Like sexy Liev, don't care if he is a douche, we do not know him personally.

He is a very good understated actor.

I wish they would do more local color scenes of L.A. though.

Well done show. Never liked Voight ever but he is good at playing the asshole he plays here.

by Anonymous

reply 157

08/04/2014

[quote]What exactly does Hank Azaria's character want ? They made a point saying he was an honest cop yet to me he's allowing Ray to do underhanded shit. I thought he wanted to arrest him?

Well, it looks like the goody two-shoes image is starting to unravel in a big way. First he ordered his henchman Cochran to murder Tiny to shut him up and then he was shown playing dirty Scrabble with another couple and grabbing the other wife's tits. I got the distinct impression that they were alluding that Azaria and his wife are secretly swingers. Let the blackmailing begin!

by Anonymous

reply 158

08/04/2014

You pervs are all drooling over an underage boy. Weird.

by Anonymous

reply 159

08/05/2014

Not sure they are swingers, but it's clear that he has his flaws.

by Anonymous

reply 160

08/05/2014

[quote]Not a single character worth rooting for.

I like Ray's flunky, the ex-Mossad Agent who watches tv with his mother. The girl flunky is also good.

I could do with less about the brothers and the boxing, and the whole subplot with the daughter is just a waste of time.

I wish they would do less on the family drama and more on Ray fixing problems for the celebrities.

by Anonymous

reply 161

08/05/2014

I agree R161. Kate Moening & Steven Bauer are being wasted here. I find the celebrity stuff the most interesting.

by Anonymous

reply 162

08/05/2014

I avoided this show, because of Jon Voight - but gave it a shot and really liked it. The only thing that really annoys me is the Boston accents, especially on the wife. Haven't they been in LA long enough for that accent to fade a bit. And I agree that I like the fixer storylines better than the family drama.

by Anonymous

reply 163

08/05/2014

So, what's the deal with Bunchie and the kid and the bicycle? Was he being nice, was he after mom, or is a pedophile?

by Anonymous

reply 164

08/05/2014

[quote] Does anyone know if this will be coming to Netflix?

This site streams it for free

click "close ad and continue as a free user"

click "start the video"

Popups will appear before you start the video. Just click out of any popups. You do not ever have to update or install any type of player. Disregard that they are just ads. If something is on the screen that says, "Your player does not support this". Ignore it and click the X to get out of it. Just X out of any ads that show up

by Anonymous

reply 165

08/05/2014

Brent Spiner - Data from Star Trek - plays the therapist. This is a great series. I am glad I started watching it.

by Anonymous

reply 166

08/05/2014

[quote]So, what's the deal with Bunchie and the kid and the bicycle? Was he being nice, was he after mom, or is a pedophile?

My guess is that he felt empathetic towards the kid, having had his own troubled childhood and being pretty much still a child himself emotionally. There may be some attempt at a romance with the mom and that will probably turn out very badly. Has Bunch ever actually had sex with a woman? I vaguely remember his dad trying to hook him up with a prostitute but I think that fell through because Bunchy got all nervous about it. He seemed so uncomfortable during that dinner, like he had no clue how to act, and the only time he was relaxed was when he interacted with the kid.

by Anonymous

reply 167

08/07/2014

Just watched this week's show.

Why did Hank Azaria's character go along with Ray's ruse for the writer ?

That totally confused me because Hank was crazy angry that Ray was able to get Mickey released.

Anybody ?

by Anonymous

reply 168

08/14/2014

Loved last night's show (Connor's birthday). Could it have been any worse? Family gatherings can be very stressful. :)

Father and son dancing at the end: PERFECT!

by Anonymous

reply 169

08/25/2014

Ray's brothers look inbred.

by Anonymous

reply 170

08/25/2014

Another great episode last night. It truly is a great show. I wish that I didn't like crazy ass Jon Voight in this, but he is so funny.

by Anonymous

reply 171

08/25/2014

Perhaps Bunchie is a pedophile. There was a reason he seemed uncomfortable when the kid put his head in his lap.

by Anonymous

reply 172

08/25/2014

[quote] I wish they would do less on the family drama and more on Ray fixing problems for the celebrities

I can't even be bothered to hate the family. There is nothing interesting about the brothers, the wife or the kids. I don't even dislike them. I just don't care about them at all

I think it would be much more interesting if they talked about how Ray came to California and how he got started. They could have him interact with some of the celebs he helped get out of trouble when he first came to Hollywood. They had Ann Margaret on the show and they didn't give her anything to do. They wasted her. They should have written an entire episode around her. They should have built a big backstory around her. Even if she wasn't a big part of the story, they could have had Ray and Elliott Gould's character talk about her character. They could have referred to how they helped her out years ago or what type of trouble her character might have gotten herself into back then

by Anonymous

reply 173

08/26/2014

Man, Elliott Gould is not good in this. And much to my dismay, Voight is very good.

by Anonymous

reply 174

08/26/2014

R174, I agree that Gould is very weak in this show, playing that repulsive lawyer. The actor who plays Sean Walker is also pretty bad.

by Anonymous

reply 175

08/26/2014

Frank Whaley in season 1 looked like a drag king.

by Anonymous

reply 176

08/27/2014

[quote]Perhaps Bunchie is a pedophile. There was a reason he seemed uncomfortable when the kid put his head in his lap.

He was uncomfortable because he had a hard-on from the Viagra he popped.

by Anonymous

reply 177

08/27/2014

I'm a couple of episodes behind (just watched "Irish Spring"). Jon Voight is the best part of the show. Liev Schreiber is also very good. I thought Ray had chemistry with the reporter (he has none with his wife but perhaps that's deliberate).

I agree that the wife and kids are a waste of time and I'd much rather see more focus on Ray the Fixer.

One thing I missed in "Irish Spring" was how they got the FBI guy to go along with the scam on the reporter. Is it because Ray knows about his wife-swapping? Or is it a mutually agreed upon cover-up based on what happened with Sully? I need to watch the last episode of S1 because I'm not real clear on what happened on the pier.

by Anonymous

reply 178

08/27/2014

Last night's show ended in such a tense shocker. I actually screamed.

Ray now has to "fix" the biggest mess of his career. From the previews it looks like it all goes south pretty quickly.

by Anonymous

reply 179

09/01/2014

Last week and this week have been the strongest episodes of the series so far. I hope the show retains its flavor with a new showrunner taking over, but with such a strong second season and David Hollander responsible (the new showrunner) for this week's ep I am cautiously optimistic. This season has been superb and I hope Schreiber directs more, too.

by Anonymous

reply 180

09/01/2014

I'm fairly new to the show and still trying to figure out who's who. What is up with that couple from the beach house? And was that Sherilyn Fenn????? If so, she's unrecognizable now. She used to be so beautiful.

by Anonymous

reply 181

09/15/2014

I think Ms Fenn is still very pretty. She's adorable in this role. We can't all stay young a beautiful forever.

by Anonymous

reply 183

09/15/2014

Please, no more Abby Donovan nude or sex scenes.

by Anonymous

reply 184

09/15/2014

Does anybody else think Abby will get offed by the end of the season? I hope they keep Eion Bailey around... his character is weird and fun (for now).

Since creator/showrunner Ann Biderman is leaving, it would make sense that Abby would be killed off or written off and the show would focus more on Ray and his various duties next year and less on the domestic stuff, especially since a lot of the episodes written by the new showrunner (David Hollander) have had more action and less Abby, this week excluded.

by Anonymous

reply 185

09/15/2014

Hot damn. I could watch a naked Liev walk into the ocean all day.

by Anonymous

reply 186

09/19/2014

Which episode is that R186?

by Anonymous

reply 187

09/19/2014

The most recent one. At least it is for me. I live in the UK so I'm not sure it's on the same release schedule as the US. It's Season 2 episode 11 (I think). The very last scene of the episode.

by Anonymous

reply 188

09/19/2014

I still think something bad is going to happen between the pedophile action star actor and Ray's kid Connor. They've been hinting around at it for two seasons now. Connor is infatuated with the guy, and the guy keeps texting him, etc.

by Anonymous

reply 189

09/19/2014

Is Austin (the movie star) a pedophile or just into transvestites and/or barely legals? Wasn't the whole storyline last year that he was caught with a female prostitute who was actually male?

Either way, I think that there will be more to his interactions with Connor sooner or later, too.

by Anonymous

reply 190

09/19/2014

Liev Schreiber is so hot. It's hard to believe his tv wife would cheat on him. Lacks credibility. His body is gorgeous.

Is that full frontal of him real?

by Anonymous

reply 191

09/21/2014

I enjoyed this season, more than last season.

by Anonymous

reply 192

09/21/2014

Great episode last night! Shit, poor Terry.

by Anonymous

reply 193

09/22/2014

Mickey has managed to fuck over everyone. That parole officer is probably fucked now too, since he didn't manage to implicate Mickey. This show gets better and better.

by Anonymous

reply 194

09/22/2014

Please no more Abby Donovan. She is so obnoxious and unappealing this season that I think they must have to kill her off. Figure Cookie Brown comes for Bridget and Abby gets killed instead. Crossing my fingers...

by Anonymous

reply 195

09/22/2014

Yeah, I can't stand his wife as well, but who will look after the kids if she dies?

This show has gotten better. Mickey fucks up everything. Everything he touches turns to shit.

by Anonymous

reply 196

09/22/2014

You just know Connor is gonna get finger popped by the action star.

by Anonymous

reply 197

09/24/2014

[quote]Yeah, I can't stand his wife as well

EITHER

by Anonymous

reply 198

09/24/2014

R191

Abby may be a bitch and Ray may be sexy as hell but I don't blame her for cheating. He sucks as a husband.

He's been cheating for years. He is rarely home and is very withholding about his feelings or what sort of risks he puts his family through.

He had also gotten to the point where he was very rough during sex without bothering to get her wet before ramming her.

If he doesn't wake up that reporter is going to take him and everyone else down. He needs to off her.

by Anonymous

reply 199

09/28/2014

[quote]He needs to off her.

From your mouth to Avi's ears, R199.

by Anonymous

reply 200

09/29/2014

I was in a principal position on two Broadway shows which starred Liev Schreiber. He is an exemplary man and actor. He sets a high bar for himself and those around him and both productions were better for it. This other talk is sheer nonsense.

by Anonymous

reply 201

09/29/2014

It was an amazing finale last night. Thi is one of the most interesting and exciting shows. I can't wait for the return.

Liev is a great actor and very sexy.

by Anonymous

reply 202

09/29/2014

It was a really good finale. The only disappointment was (spoiler alert!) Abby didn't die. I was on the fence about this show in S1, but it really came into its own in S2. It doesn't seem to get much love from critics, though.

by Anonymous

reply 203

09/29/2014

With 2 million watching the 9 PM show, the Season 2 finale of Hollywood fixer series Ray Donovan was up 40% from the 1.41 million who tuned in for the Season 1 ender on September 22 last year, which benefited from following the record-breaking series finale of Dexter. Even with the announced departure of creator-showrunner Ann Biderman, this season has seen Ray Donovan hit new highs on a couple of occasions. The show’s September 14 airing drew a series-high 1.8 million viewers — and that’s against NBC’s powerhouse Sunday Night Football. Last night’s multi-story finale jumped 61% from the 1.22 million who watched its Season 2 opener on July 13.

by Anonymous

reply 204

09/30/2014

I think that Ray killing Cookie made Abbey love him again. He, not the cop protected her family.

I want to see the hot crazy guy in jail, taking showers, anything to get him naked.

by Anonymous

reply 205

09/30/2014

Hot crazy guy is really great in that role. Can't stand the blonde bitch girlfriend with the bad wig.

by Anonymous

reply 206

09/30/2014

Right, R205, Abby was looking at Ray with stars in her eyes. I wish he would kick her to the curb but that's unlikely to happen.

by Anonymous

reply 207

09/30/2014

Can someone give me a brief rundown of what happened in the season finale ?

Thanks

by Anonymous

reply 208

10/04/2014

R208, I'm trying to remember...

-Ray leaked the sex tape of FBI guy (swingers)

-Ray reports to authorities about a body being buried in the Ruth's Memorial hospital (or whatever that place is called)

-the blonde reporter is shot and killed.

-Ray's father wins a million dollars at the racetrack. He put 20K (from the robbery) all on 1 horse.

by Anonymous

reply 209

10/04/2014

R209, and he killed the fuck outta Cookie Brown, yo!!

by Anonymous

reply 210

10/04/2014

Also the inspirational guru was arrested. Ray found out that he pushed the blonde chick's stalker off the balcony onto the rocks below.

by Anonymous

reply 211

10/04/2014

How did Ray kill Cookie Brown ? Cookie's always surrounded by guards.

by Anonymous

reply 212

10/04/2014

John Voight stole this season.

by Anonymous

reply 213

10/04/2014

Season 2 was better and more consistent than Season 1.

by Anonymous

reply 214

10/04/2014

R212, watch the show!

by Anonymous

reply 215

10/04/2014

Who do think leaked the video of the rappers' murders? Was it a cop on the take working for Cookie? The Harvey Levin type guy @ Stalkerrazzi? Did the kid or his Dad make copies and sell it/them?

by Anonymous

reply 216

01/04/2015

When does season 3 start?

by Anonymous

reply 217

01/04/2015

Awesome show. "We wouldn't have to put up with this shit in Bel-Air!"

by Anonymous

reply 218

01/04/2015

I believe Season 3 starts in July.

by Anonymous

reply 219

01/04/2015

I love this show and haven't had the opportunity to see the second season. I'm avoiding reading the thread so as not to spoil.

"We wouldn't have to put up with this shit in Bel-Air!"

by Anonymous

reply 220

01/04/2015

Season 3 (starring Ian McShane and Katie Holmes) premiers this Sunday, July 12.

by Anonymous

reply 221

07/09/2015

[quote]I just started watching. I love it and I have always respected Schreiber as an actor but he's the male equivalent of a buttaface. Great bod but he looks like a lipless chipmunk.

No arguments about taste. I think he's fine as fuck.

by Anonymous

reply 222

07/09/2015

S1 was "meh" but the show found its legs in S2. Hopefully we'll see less of annoying Abby in S3. She sucks the life out of every scene she's in. Ian McShane should be interesting. I watched a preview and was surprised how tiny he is compared to Liev. Not too sure about Katie Holmes.

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