I don't understand what people mean by "too early" when it come sto washing. I mean they are jeans... shit gets dirty wash them or don't. Like Caltex's mastodon penis when it drags across his Persian tasseled rugs and egyptian cotton sheets... Amiright?!

Since my Dior Homme Raw jean is about to retired after 2 years of intense wear I am thinking about replacing it by a Momotaro 0702.
I am used to wear my jeans raw, straight out of the box. No soak or wash. I wash them one year after with a cold water "silk" mode to avoid any shrinking.

That's the reason I am used to buy and wear my raw denim pretty tight (I usualy size down by 1) until they stretch out to fit my true W33 (I measured my current jeans).

Regarding this, can I assume that the tag size 31 is the right one for me since it is measured as a W32 and I rely on a 1" strech out to reach W33?

Since my Dior Homme Raw jean is about to retired after 2 years of intense wear I am thinking about replacing it by a Momotaro 0702.
I am used to wear my jeans raw, straight out of the box. No soak or wash. I wash them one year after with a cold water "silk" mode to avoid any shrinking.

That's the reason I am used to buy and wear my raw denim pretty tight (I usualy size down by 1) until they stretch out to fit my true W33 (I measured my current jeans).

Regarding this, can I assume that the tag size 31 is the right one for me since it is measured as a W32 and I rely on a 1" strech out to reach W33?

Thank you for your help !

Can't wait to try this brand that everybody seems to love!

They really don't stretch that much. Personally I would go with a W33 or W32.

What is that? It is a topic in SF?
If I bought them (and I am pretty sure I will) I will definitively sign in for the contest !

My waist is a hair over 32". I bought the 31s initially and could barely fit in them and they crushed my thighs and I could just barely button the top button. Exchanged it for a W32 and they fit much better around my thighs, but you can still see where the threads are stretched to their max.

I would shoot Jay over at BlueOwl.us an e-mail and give him your measurements. He's pretty darn good at this stuff.

My waist is a hair over 32". I bought the 31s initially and could barely fit in them and they crushed my thighs and I could just barely button the top button. Exchanged it for a W32 and they fit much better around my thighs, but you can still see where the threads are stretched to their max.

I would shoot Jay over at BlueOwl.us an e-mail and give him your measurements. He's pretty darn good at this stuff.

Thank you for your feedback. Maybe I could ask Jay for the biggest 31 he has in stock. I'm gonna PM him.

CalTex is the (lazy) ''operating manager'' who make a lot of crotch shots and so does the rest actually. It's a fun contest thread, go through it and you'll find out

I was actually reading it... I thought iI was at the wrong place when I saw a bunch of men crotch
But yeah, I will enter the contest as soon as I am set on the model (0702 vs BOM003) and the size (31 vs 32) !

@ErikW > I read this on the contest topic. I think you run a bit larger than me since I'm 5'85 ~ 155lbs. So maybe one of us is wrong with the waist estimation . Regarding this I think tag 31 should be fine on me. What do you think?

@ErikW > I read this on the contest topic. I think you run a bit larger than me since I'm 5'85 ~ 155lbs. So maybe one of us is wrong with the waist estimation . Regarding this I think tag 31 should be fine on me. What do you think?

You can try, but they just don't stretch like other brands. I would buy "Tagged TTS" - if your waist measures 33, buy a 33.

if you knew they were low rise and you didn't like low rise, you shouldn't have gotten them. the rise measurements are all over the place and you could easily compare it to a pair you already have

I understand this is the Internet and you can easily sit behind your desk and trash other people but I think you misread what I said. I'm fully aware of the cut and rise of the jeans I purchased. I was only trying to highlight my experience of stretching out of the jeans and the accuracy of the sizing. Someone else also pointed out the difference of the 701 and 705 in terms of shrink to fit vs prewashed which is why I specifically mentioned which ones I had purchased. I apologize if I incorrectly instructed on irrelevant washing instructions.