Peter Smith/Abigail Muchmore 1790 Glengarry

Peter Smith/Abigail Muchmore 1790 Glengarry

Looking for information on GGGG grandparents, PETER SMITH and ABIGAIL MUCHMORE, UEL member, married in Williamstown, Ontario 1786. Abigail was abducted with her mother and three siblings near Fort Pitt by indians in 1777 and taken to Detroit. They were later released. Abigail eventually joined her brother JONATHAN MUCHMORE in Williamstown where she married Peter Smith, a blacksmith. I am willing to share information.

Bill Hayes

Re: Peter Smith/Abigail Muchmore 1790 Glengarry

My GGG grandfather was a Peter Smith who served, we believe, with the King's Royal Yorkers during the American Revolution. His dates are 1753 to 1833. After the war, he received Crown land on what is now called the King's Road not far from Martintown. However, the church was in Williamstown and that is where he was buried and would have been married as well.

I don't have any information on whether he was a blacksmith, though my grandfather had a smithy on his property and the skill may well have been handed down. There is a story that he turned his hand to freelance dentistry, though with what success I can't say.

There is also a Peter Smith Jr. who received land adjacent to Peter Smith a few years later and was presumably his son.

I was looking at my mother's research on the family tree just a few days ago but, unfortunately, didn't make note of the other information you need.

The story of the wife's abduction is probably uncommon enough to have been remembered, but I can't say that I have ever heard it mentioned by anyone in the family.

I am going to apply for my U.E. designation in the near future and I will have to verify my Peter Smith to get it. I will let you know what I can find out.

Re: Peter Smith/Abigail Muchmore 1790 Glengarry

I have just come across your 2002 info. on Peter Smith and believe he is an ancestor of mine as well. My family line is as follows: Peter Smith (1753 -1833) m. Isabella Grant (1756-1856), son Duncan Smith (1789-1834) m. Margaret Fraser(1799-1889), daughter Mary Smith, b. 1828-1917 King's Road Martintown m. Simon Fraser (1826-1899) and down. I understand that Peter Smith was a UEL, granted land in Charlottenburg in 1790 (date?) He also had a son, Peter Jr., who also received land in 1790.

I would be very interested in any info. you might have on the Peter Smith family in Williamstown, Glengarry. I may be able to share info. from Peter Smith back - just need to confirm that this is actually my family line.

Re: Peter Smith/Abigail Muchmore 1790 Glengarry

I have what may be new info on the two Peter Smiths. There is a UEL claim for Peter Smith Jr where he explains that there were two Peter Smiths in the regiment. They are not related but to distinguish between them one was called Sr and one Jr. The Sr married Muchmore. Jr is the line I descend from. I can provide more a link to the UEL petition if you like. There are other petitions from them as well and also petitions from children who would refer to themselves as children or Sr or Jr which helps to trace the families.

Re: Peter Smith/Abigail Muchmore 1790 Glengarry

I would be very interested in having the link(s) to the UEL petitions. I have been trying to sort out the two Peter Smiths for some time now. Best I can tell, I do not descend down from the Peter Smith who married Abigail Muchmore, so perhaps I, also, descend from Peter Smith Jr. (married Isabella Grant)This would be very helpful information. As would be any other Peter Smith family info. you would be interested in sharing.

Re: Peter Smith/Abigail Muchmore 1790 Glengarry

Hopefully you are still on line. I think I've sorted out the two Peter Smiths. Both of them were in the 84th Regiment, got married about the same time, named their kids the same names, drew Lots very near to each other.

Sr. drew Lot 37 and Junior drew Lot 39. Sr. moved on to Kenyon Township and died sometime prior to January 1827. Junior stayed in Williamstown, was a blacksmith, died in 1833 and is buried in St. Andrews Cemetery. There is notation on headstone saying he was a blacksmith.

I have a letter written by Abigail's mother in 1797 saying that Abigail had married Peter Smith, a blacksmith, in Montreal.

Senior and Junior were not related. It was just a way to keep their records separate in the military and legal documents. There was a Kenneth Smith in land records in the area but don't think there was any connection to either Senior or Junior.

Re: Peter Smith/Abigail Muchmore 1790 Glengarry

I think you have the Sr and Jr reversed. Peter Smith Jr married Isabella Grant. There are some of the land claims from his children who make reference to Peter Smith Jr as being their father and Isabella being their mother. This may also help to confirm which children are which. I agree that there are other unrelated Smiths in the area. A couple show up in Martintown, a village a few miles west of the lots the two Peters obtained. I hope to get back to reviewing the land claims soon and may have more information.

Jim Sova

Re: Peter Smith/Abigail Muchmore 1790 Glengarry

Hi,I just found a document on the Canadiana Website while searching for one of my ancestors. It is from the Heir and Devisee Records. It gives information about Jonathan Muchmore. I attached it to this string of messages. I hope it helps.Barb Gressel