Is it ok to bounce drums? In the rules there is drum consistency mentionned but is it a problem on a modern synth with phase retrigger?As my crappy laptop can't handle too much instances (and that's the only computer i have at the moment), just creating a decent drumkit takes way too much ressources, and freezing wont help.Even with the best intentions, dialing compression or adjusting eq is not doable when the music plays at "one frame per second"(for video gamers out there). Osc104 was "fun" in that respect.I dont mind sharing the presets used if trust is an issue

Daru925 wrote:Is it ok to bounce drums? In the rules there is drum consistency mentionned but is it a problem on a modern synth with phase retrigger?

Can you say what the difference between bounce and freeze is!? I though it's recording the drums to wav and using the recording instead of the "live" track, right? I would say go for it...There was some heated discussion in another thread about Thorn eating up a lot of CPU. I didn't care to throw dirt a Dimitry but I have tried to optimize my project. Measures I took* I set DAW frequency to 48K (usually I do my tracks in 96KHz 32 Bit)* I checked each patch for ** "number of voices"** "Oversampling"** "Optimize Polyphony"** powered up modules that I do not need and switched them off

Please note: I just *think* that these steps helped, I haven't done excessive testing whether all measure really have a positive effect as I expected. Probably other users can share their experience and approach on this topic.

Thank you peter, i already applied a few of your suggestions. (i also use 96 khz settings on my main machine)Its more an issue about my laptop being veeeeery old more than thorn being cpu heavy. Thorn is awesome.Freezing doesnt allow you to edit anything, while bounce render the channel into wav, which isnt such a problem(imho) with drums as i trigger them inside a drumrack in Live. In terms of resulting sound, it makes no difference triggering a one shot wav sample and one shot instance of synth when said synth has no drifting or fx. Except the cpu consumption is way higher with a synth. So id rather spend my cpu tax on melodic sounds that require changes rather than drums.

If its not within the rules, nevermind, but i'll have to pass on osc's until i can afford them

As I'm playing around with Thorn, I come to be very worried about d34dmeat. ...I think, his heart might explode or simply stop, because he fell into his most passionate trance, yet.One single sound can hold endlessly deep patterns that drift off into a kind of nirvana, filled with complex riches, moving calmly but loaded with thoughts and reflections. It is pretty incredible. All the while it has a very beautiful quality, too.

I could not run my DAW on 96khz for the life of me, haha...just using the MME drivers, because Asio is a guaranteed crash on my system, but I'm running fairly well with 48khz as always. Thorn is most certainly more taxing than most, but dang... dang, dingledee dang, dang.Gorgeous.

Again, d34dmeat, pull yourself together, stay strong and remember to snap out of your trance frequently! ...can't wait to hear what you'll do with this!

Inspired by the almost 2 hour long video posted here, I stopped fiddeling with the presets and did a first patch from scratch.Pretty distorted and heavy outcome, but it was so much fun to play and improvise around with it, I could not resist and recorded a little impro with it on my LinnStrument. As video, also to show Dmitry that it would be well worth it to bring Thorn into MPE land. This time it needed some extra technique to play the bendings, as Thorn does not (yet) do MPE.Here it is the One Synth - One Sound video (no multitrack, no program change, no automation, no edit - all live):

You need a LinnStrument or Roli Seaboard or Roli Block to make it shine...And I just found out, if you assign via Midi Learn a controller, that is not saved in the preset. My patch had assigned cc74 to the cutoff of filter 2. And without aftertouch on a keyboard the sound won't go wild at all...

Awww...this is not very nice to show off with a beauty like that LinnStrument. Wished I had any of them, really. The seaboard did interest me the most, but the only one I know, who ever tried it, hated it...meh... I can imagine that I wouldn't.