JeffDFD wrote:I enjoyed Dejan initially...then he got tired fast...a lot of complaining and negative articles non stop. Like others were saying...more of a troll type writer to get attention. Like when it's a slow newsday so Madden does nothing but bash the Steelers to get ratings and all of Pittsburgh calls in, haha. Dejan turned constantly negative, constantly complaining, I want to stop following him on twitter becaus all I do is roll my eyes every time I see him post anything or argue with people on twitter. I may soon...perhaps I am holding out hope he just got grumpy after the Pens lost early (after he said they could go all the way) - then it was on to the Pirates (which is always terrible) and then Steelers (which was depressing).

I don't mind "trolls" like Madden and people like that. I actually think its fun sometimes. But I know listening to him, that is his thing. So it doesn't bother me.

With Dejan, he went from a great level headed type of guy that just went off the deep end IMO. I always looked to him for more of a level headed approach before. So his drastic change turned me off.

JeffDFD wrote:I enjoyed Dejan initially...then he got tired fast...a lot of complaining and negative articles non stop. Like others were saying...more of a troll type writer to get attention. Like when it's a slow newsday so Madden does nothing but bash the Steelers to get ratings and all of Pittsburgh calls in, haha. Dejan turned constantly negative, constantly complaining, I want to stop following him on twitter becaus all I do is roll my eyes every time I see him post anything or argue with people on twitter. I may soon...perhaps I am holding out hope he just got grumpy after the Pens lost early (after he said they could go all the way) - then it was on to the Pirates (which is always terrible) and then Steelers (which was depressing).

I don't mind "trolls" like Madden and people like that. I actually think its fun sometimes. But I know listening to him, that is his thing. So it doesn't bother me.

With Dejan, he went from a great level headed type of guy that just went off the deep end IMO. I always looked to him for more of a level headed approach before. So his drastic change turned me off.

I don't know how it doesn't bother you when he is just baiting all of the yinzers and them arguing is the whole show! I pretty much turn off Madden unless he is talking hockey.

But more back to the point...yes, Dejan went off the deep end and it was a shame.

JeffDFD wrote:I don't know how it doesn't bother you when he is just baiting all of the yinzers and them arguing is the whole show! I pretty much turn off Madden unless he is talking hockey.

But more back to the point...yes, Dejan went off the deep end and it was a shame.

To me, if you know he is baiting, it is actually kind of funny seeing people falling for it. It is part of his show. It's entertaining. And he does it well and in a very entertaining way IMO. I listen to Madden for more of the entertainment value.

Philiponi tries the same thing, but he sucks at it and isn't funny. He is annoying. I hate his voice too.

If I want to listen to more serious sports talk, I listen to Savran or Bendel.

I just think you need to know your host/the audience they are seeking.

JeffDFD wrote:I don't know how it doesn't bother you when he is just baiting all of the yinzers and them arguing is the whole show! I pretty much turn off Madden unless he is talking hockey.

But more back to the point...yes, Dejan went off the deep end and it was a shame.

To me, if you know he is baiting, it is actually kind of funny seeing people falling for it. It is part of his show. It's entertaining. And he does it well and in a very entertaining way IMO. I listen to Madden for more of the entertainment value.

I never used to like Madden, but I like him a lot more after listening to other sports talkers. He KNOWS he's an arrogant jagoff and advertises it. The other sports people I've heard are also arrogant jagoffs (that don't go around advertising it), but you can hear a note of arrogance in their voice because they talk about sports on the radio all day.

I've only listened to Madden in passing; an interview here and there. But he's a performer in a ratings driven industry. He is a sports shock jock, where controversy - manufactured and otherwise - builds ratings and listeners. This isn't rocket science. If he wasn't a troll or controversial, no one would listen. It would like be John Tesh sports show, which wouldn't work for the audience that likes sports news.

@above: Not quite sure I understand the question. I haven't read the wording (which will be very carefully done...very carefully) but I imagine this will be strictly of a salary retention standpoint. Unsure as to how that will figure into cap calculation at this time.

@above: Not quite sure I understand the question. I haven't read the wording (which will be very carefully done...very carefully) but I imagine this will be strictly of a salary retention standpoint. Unsure as to how that will figure into cap calculation at this time.

I'm sick and foggy...so yes poorly phrased.Just trying to establish if it would be a one time thing (like the buyouts) or for the cba.it sounds like the latter.