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Lol. Thats awesome! Next time I'm in KC, we should do a photo. I'm actually from right down the street from where that pic was taken. Metro north, old AMC 6 screen right? I'm from the I29 and 64/68th st area.

The only reason Subaru's make so much more torque than power is because they have a turbo that can push a lot of air in the midrange RPM's and tuner's choose to put in a huge boost peak. Then by the high RPM's (where power would really take off) the turbo is running out of breath so boost drops (and therefore torque and power). If you tuned a flat boost curve it is easily possible to get the numbers you mentioned.

The pillar trim and headliners were a dark grey compared to the light grey in the WRX's. I didn't know that the 2013's were all getting the dark trim. I know the Halloween special editions were getting it though...

The only reason Subaru's make so much more torque than power is because they have a turbo that can push a lot of air in the midrange RPM's and tuner's choose to put in a huge boost peak. Then by the high RPM's (where power would really take off) the turbo is running out of breath so boost drops (and therefore torque and power). If you tuned a flat boost curve it is easily possible to get the numbers you mentioned.

its still sad that these things give out after 4000 miles at 400lb ft or 335whp or 400 whp with 400 lb ft wtf is the difference..the point is that shouldn't be enough power to require a rebuild of a factory boosted engine..the point has nothing to do with all possible subaru torque to hp ratios.

why don't you go do some nice drag launches with your built tranny..im sure it wont explode or anything

its still sad that these things give out after 4000 miles at 400lb ft or 335whp or 400 whp with 400 lb ft wtf is the difference..the point is that shouldn't be enough power to require a rebuild of a factory boosted engine..the point has nothing to do with all possible subaru torque to hp ratios.

why don't you go do some nice drag launches with your built tranny..im sure it wont explode or anything

It's 100% the crap stock pistons that do it to our engines. The internals on a stock EJ257, excluding the pistons :P, are good for 450whp/wtq easy. Drop in a set of pistons and you're good to go for the most part.

difference between 335whp/400wtq and 400whp/400wtq is a few car lengths. you really think there wouldn't be a difference? or did i miss something.

no one ever understand what I'm trying to say..lol

they are being anal because I referenced the whp instead of the torque..has nothing to do with how fast anything is

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Originally Posted by J_Maher_WRX

It's 100% the crap stock pistons that do it to our engines. The internals on a stock EJ257, excluding the pistons :P, are good for 450whp/wtq easy. Drop in a set of pistons and you're good to go for the most part.

no i mean its a big deal to do it yourself...or if nothing else, time consuming

also the pistons alone are like $600 anyway, not sure who you are gonna get to remove your engine and change your pistons for $400. You should probably change the rods while you are in there anyway

Yeah it definitely is at that. And yeah like I said, I wouldn't know what the installation cost might be, as I do all the work myself. I have a buddy of my mine who's prepped and built several cars for the Newfoundland Targa Rally who would definitely give me a good deal to install them. He has a ~430whp 20gxtr STi on meth himself

Not sure about the Rods, I think if I were to change them you may as well go big and get the turbo-tuff Manley Rods or cosworth or similar. I cant see the basic rods being any stronger than the stock STi ones?

Yeah it definitely is at that. And yeah like I said, I wouldn't know what the installation cost might be, as I do all the work myself. I have a buddy of my mine who's prepped and built several cars for the Newfoundland Targa Rally who would definitely give me a good deal to install them. He has a ~430whp 20gxtr STi on meth himself

Not sure about the Rods, I think if I were to change them you may as well go big and get the turbo-tuff Manley Rods or cosworth or similar. I cant see the basic rods being any stronger than the stock STi ones?

I think I can probably DIY it (with some help from my friend anyway) it but I need to practice on something that isn't going into a DD..lol. I don't pay people to install things other than tires

if you are JUST dropping in pistons then to "change the rods while you're in there" would be quite a bit more work. If the block is destroyed and you are building from scratch then yeah.... throw in rods while you're at it.

Basically. Spend big money on rods or just use the stock STI rods. My STI rods are handling 500WTQ fine, but it's probably near their limit.

I have hard rods. (insert inappropriate joke here...sorry had to). They are Manley and turbo tuff!!!

I think what a lot of people forget about building up a Subaru is that..yes it is factory boosted...but only to 305 crank HP max. When you start talking about 400+ whp, that is a HUGE percentage increase. It is no different in any other tuning platform that is factory boosted when you start talking about percentage increase (except for maybe the EVO but it runs into other issues at that percentage).

I have heard of some stage 2 level cars (specifically 08 STI's) that have had issues, but for the most part that is rare.

I would post a picture of my car...but it is back in the shop again. BUT...there is a surprise when it gets out.