Please - no "judgment calls" on this thread from some people on the boards who I have seen previously do so to others in a querying, disrespectful manner.

I went on a date last night with a person who, because of my own tremendous survival issues, plus his abrupt behavior and omittance of certain information about himself, has thrown my body and emotions into long-lasting SHOCK and grief.

I don't want any judgment calls on this because after all - a first date with someone is "like an interview" in some respects, really. We all know that. But, aside from his abrupt behaviors and VERY different lifestyle, this person was, on the whole, much more UGLY looking in person than pictures could portray; apparently he used light and shadow to his advantage in the photos. His philosophy was shown to be bordering on 180 degree opposite of mine, but,he was from precisely the country I had wanted to date someone from.

In total, I feel as if my whole being has just been short circuited physically, emotionally and spiritually. The mental part is still alive and kicking, but I literally feel as if something has just KILLED ME DEAD!

I would buy the whole tin of Rescue Remedy pastilles - but I wonder if that is going to be specific enough? And yet I don't want to pay for 3 or 4 vials of stuff. I wonder which is best to apply, in this case.

With gratitude -- S.

Mortal life is a stay in a vast hospital ward. (Eastern Orthodoxy +)

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential. (Churchill)

If you're feeling "in shock" then Star of Bethlehem is the best choice. This is an ingredient in Rescue Remedy.

I strongly suspect that your "bad date" isn't the only thing bothering you; it was just "the straw that broke the camel's back" after all the other stuff you've been going through lately. The ongoing financial stress, what you went through at your last job, dealing with your mother (not only in dealing with her care but also an element of loss.) You're also in a time of change and uncertainty.

Wild oat may be indicated if you're feeling unsure of where to go with your life. Walnut if you feel like outside influences are affecting you too much (may be very useful with the whole situation with your mom and living with her.) Perhaps aspen and/or mimulus if you're afraid of what's going to happen to you. A few others might even be the most important, depending on your exact personality and how all this stuff is affecting your psyche. Are you putting yourself last? (centuary.) Worn out with worry for your mom and frustrated that she won't listen to your advice? (red chestnut.) You probably need either olive, elm, or oak for fatigue/feeling overwhelmed, but I'm not sure which one would best suit you.

OTOH, for today you may just need to deal with the immediate shock of last night's date, and the other underlying emotional issues may be less important. For that, rescue remedy is probably your best bet. The liquid is probably a better buy than the pastilles, as you only need a couple of drops in a cup of water.

For the long term, I'd suggest getting a book about flower remedies out of the library, and go through the whole book and try to get a feel for which remedies really "speak to you" right now. Ideally, you want to use 3-5 remedies to heal the underlying emotions, mixed together in a treatment bottle (the remedies last a really long time this way.) I have almost a complete set right now, but I didn't buy more than 1 or 2 at a time. I bought them as I felt I (or a family member) needed one I didn't have. Some of the bottles are 15 years old and still potent.

Ruthie has a good perspective on this. I agree that for an acute situation like this immediate issue, Rescue Remedy is a good choice. I keep a stock bottle on hand all the time and put a couple of drops under my tongue immediately when I feel ripped apart over something. It's cheaper to mix up a treatment bottle and keep in the refrigerator - 5 drops of Rescue Remedy in a 2 oz glass dropper bottle, filled with pure, chemical-free water. Squeeze an entire dropper-full under your tongue many times a day, even every 5 minutes if needed.

I like the protective remedies a lot, specifically Walnut and Centuary. I think Centuary would be a very good choice for you on the long-term, considering the circumstances you are living in right now. It is about developing strong, healthy boundaries.

Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.Let me not pass you by in quest of some rare and perfect tomorrow.~Mary Jean Irion

There are lots of websites with information about Bach Flower Remedies. Many of the places that sell them online include a page of information about each remedy, and are easily found with a websearch. I like to read more than one perspective on each remedy before selecting it- either using 2 different websites, or a website and a book, or two different books. Each place will describe the remedy in slightly different words, which can help clarify which one(s) you need and which one(s) aren't quite right for now.

Ruthie has a good perspective on this. I agree that for an acute situation like this immediate issue, Rescue Remedy is a good choice. I keep a stock bottle on hand all the time and put a couple of drops under my tongue immediately when I feel ripped apart over something. It's cheaper to mix up a treatment bottle and keep in the refrigerator - 5 drops of Rescue Remedy in a 2 oz glass dropper bottle, filled with pure, chemical-free water. Squeeze an entire dropper-full under your tongue many times a day, even every 5 minutes if needed.

I like the protective remedies a lot, specifically Walnut and Centuary. I think Centuary would be a very good choice for you on the long-term, considering the circumstances you are living in right now. It is about developing strong, healthy boundaries.

My mom absconded with the car after I came back from job interview, so I fell asleep hoping to sleep off the exhaustive, clinging depression re: last night.Every 5 minutes? If that were so, how much remedy would be used per day?

Mortal life is a stay in a vast hospital ward. (Eastern Orthodoxy +)

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential. (Churchill)

Seraffa, glad you experienced such a quick response from the Rescue Remedy. It is that way for me also. As to your question in post #7, "Every 5 minutes? If that were so, how much remedy would be used per day?" Rescue Remedy is meant for short-term use, for acute situations. It is a crisis remedy, so you would not be taking it for a long time. The cheapest way is to make a treatment bottle as I described in post #3 and taken like that, a stock bottle can last for months. I buy a new one every couple of years or so.

Elm for overwhelm is a good remedy.

Normal day, let me be aware of the treasure you are.Let me not pass you by in quest of some rare and perfect tomorrow.~Mary Jean Irion

Elm is good when you overall feel like you're in control of your life, but things are just overwhelming right now. It's good for students around exam time, or for busy housewives before holidays. It's when you're overwhelmed because your "to do" list is too long.

If you've been chronically overwhelmed for a long time, you may need Olive for exhaustion instead of Elm. And if it's REALLY a chronic issue, Oak may be more appropriate- Oak is for when you feel like you've been plodding along forever and you keep on going past the point of exhaustion. Some people have an "Oak personality" and routinely trudge along when they're tired, while others get that way after a long, hard life.

There were years when I was taking Elm when I should have been using Olive, when my girls were small.

Seraffa- thank you for starting this thread. In typing up my last response, I realized that I need elm right now! I just added a couple of drops to a glass of water (and poured a little bit of that water into my water bottle that's coming with me to DS' appointment.) Those two drops from the bottle will last me through lots of doses throughout today.

Please, Admins! Make this one a "Sticky" with your Admin-power glue I'm posting this for those who may need extra care and discussion support as they persue their health recovery the BTD, GTD and SWAMI way. Thank you!!

Mortal life is a stay in a vast hospital ward. (Eastern Orthodoxy +)

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential. (Churchill)

Hello, readers. I am a genetically marked Bulimia Nervosa sufferer persuing total remission the D'Adamo way. I have founded this thread as a "safe" place for all to come to who wish to speak about struggles and vistories with eating disorders, whether needing nutritional, emotional or intellectual support to go forward with their healing process.

I first became aware of my Bulimia at age 21, while living in an alcoholic, dysfunctional home life. Over the years the Bulimia Nervosa progressed to an almost daily condition although I had been trying many popular support groups to get rid of my condition. There was finally a brief period of 4 years of total remission, using Psychiatric drugs to "pool seratonin" in my brain, coupled with personal counselling with a stellar counselor.

However, as the need for the psychiatrics ceased, and age crept up on me, my condition as an overstressed, overtoxified A Nonnie Explorer suddenly reared its ugly head again a la Bulimia Nervosa, which sent me desperately (but skeptically) searching for ultimate nutirional health to "stop the binge/vomit cycle." Again here - I must repeat that at the time I had STELLAR counseling support, but the only "diet" I knew of that worked only HALF the time to keep me in remission was "Paleo". I was gulping down meats and cheeses and veggies with very little grain in faint hopes of "beating the illness." But no victory.

Here at the BTD support groups, I am happy to say that not only am I persuing near-total victory over the plague of Bulimia Nervosa -- I am, through diligent monitoring, suddenly discovering now which brain functions within me are responding positively or negatively to my "benficials" "diamonds" and "avoids", and my current area of interest is now my partially-damaged hypothalamus, and its relationship to my upper-intestine enzymatic secretions (specifially, ghrelin levels that contraol the satiety signal in the brain)

I wish you all joy and luck in continuing the peronal journey towards ultimate good health in our supportive, friendly environment. And I know for myself that I would not be writing this with confidence if it were not for Dr. D'Adamo's continued research into what makes "us" "us" and gives us the opportunity for a happy and long life, free of chronic illness.

Mortal life is a stay in a vast hospital ward. (Eastern Orthodoxy +)

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential. (Churchill)

I do not have an eating disorder but have a sister (she is technically my sister in law, but I love her like my sister) who is recovering from aneorexia. Can I hop on the thread to further my understanding of her condition and for support in helping her?

I do not have an eating disorder but have a sister (she is technically my sister in law, but I love her like my sister) who is recovering from aneorexia. Can I hop on the thread to further my understanding of her condition and for support in helping her?

Sure, Aisling. And I'm not bragging by any means ( I don't want to seem like "the perfect example" of what other people go through ) but I actually had Anoriexia for a full year before the disease gave way to Bulimia Nervosa.

There are much more medical stories out there on the net now than were available 30 years ago regarding the differences between the 2 diseases. If you google the known chemical imalances found within Anorexics, please feel free to throw em in here and start discussing!

Mortal life is a stay in a vast hospital ward. (Eastern Orthodoxy +)

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential. (Churchill)

A friend of mine here went "off the wagon" today as far as compliant eating.Here's a creative question: if someone were to write the "12 Steps of Avoids Anonymous" what would those 12 steps look like?

I haven't participated in 12 step programs in a long while, but as I remember it, it would go something like this:Step 1: Admitted that we were powerless over our avoids - that our lives had become unmanageable......

Anyway, just a creative thought. Not mandating, or dictating.

Mortal life is a stay in a vast hospital ward. (Eastern Orthodoxy +)

Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential. (Churchill)