And just to back up someone who doesn't need back up... the tangle of specifically technical info #Snippy# directed folks to alone was impressive and
indicative of someone "in-the-know"... regardless of knowing things few know, cause that's hard to "prove"... but he sure did make some folks
take careful notice... or these spin-off threads wouldn't be here!

I, too, would love a link to that incident. Definition of terms always causes problems ... "breakaway" "military industrial complex" all terms
for, basically, the same thing... the evolution of M.I.C. to breakaway was broached... but I really appreciate your contributions...despite (or maybe
because of) your macabre sex crime avatar!

ETA and in case that sex crime reference raises disturbing questions, your avatar looks like an old anti-rape add campaign from the 80's I remember
for it's stark, effective imagery.

I'll try to find the link in here somewhere when I get a chance to dig...want to say it was posted a few years ago. The object described was similar
to the Redlesham Forrest incident, only this one was much larger and was shining lights on the unit prior to landing.

I painted my avatar using Gimp (photoshop) years ago on a Toshiba tablet o installed Ubuntu on. I have the step by step too of the process

NO problems until the incident too. But keep in mind there was a major leak or hack by some A Hole into many corporate military contractors computers
right around the same time. I'm sure folks were scrambling to find the leak and to see how far the damage had spread. If good people were
intercepting my emails because they were on that manhunt then that's cool with me. I sure they've figured what's what with me and know that I'm just
some enthusiastic guy with a loud personality. However, I hope when they find/catch this traitorous scumbag leaker they void the warranty of a
soldering iron on his ass. SO all of that IM issues could be tied in with that, and if that's the case, no worries then they are looking for some
smuck who's got a whole lot of pain coming when they do find him.

a reply to: Jukiodone
Yes he said there were multiple shape/size craft using the same technology but the technology itself is flawed so it wouldn't matter how many you
produced. Space is a vacuum so a craft that works by creating a vacuum in front would not work. This tec is supposedly what is used in the triangular
craft.

The disc craft (the first craft) used a nuclear pulse detonation engine. It was only ignited once it reached the moon so rockets must have been used
to get it there first.

You cannot use balloons to get you into space, most a balloon can do is pull a rocket a few Km into the air before igniting rockets to push it into
space.

Other things I found funny is that this AI went and let them go all over the place collecting ancient junk before it decided to share plans for a
better craft. or are we to believe they bolted all this old junk together and still ended up with having to power it with a nuclear reactor!

The aliens who fly through space in craft bigger then our Sun and make webs that stretch over the mouth of a black hole to extract electricity is
kinda funny too

Hmmm... I (not too surprisingly) hadn't heard about that hack. My feelings parallel yours (well, minus the torture...heh). Despite my
anti-authoritarian, suspicious slant, I admit that I am glad WE have that tech, and not some group that's... well... much, much worse.

As far as those deep conversations with #Snippy#, that's something I'd like paraphrased and posted for all to see... if you have the inclination or
time... basically, just more context for the narrative.

There are things said in passing about this 'story' that made me want to know more... as in we need more context! And that goes for all of the
lurkers who spoke with #Snippy#... more context, more info... is (almost always) a good thing.

I had thought of that as well as well as the infrastructure needed to store the numbers of devices required. Unless there is a different device that
has been developed from the nuclear programs In the past. I can only speculate but it might be worth looking into alternative ways of creating the
force an Orion type craft might use. My notepad document has got to be 7-8 scale feet long of things to look into.

Agreed... but where did you get that 90% figure? I can guess they'd engineer a culling, in fact I'm sure it's been planned out and drawn up in
every form imaginable since mid last century... but wouldn't 90% be a bit drastic? Less fodder to push around, anyway.

Even fast food is going to full automation soon.
The 'end of work' is approaching. ...and if you
don't make the 1% wealthier, then you have
no purpose in existing.

That is our brave new world....this is not
hyperbole but a very well documented
mind set (Kissinger...Bush...Cheyney..
Clinton. ...world bank presidents...etc.)

To 'them' nearly all of us are just another
useless mouth not to feed.

Let's remember the Manhattan Project. This secret project involved thousands of people, and nearly none of them had any idea what the ultimate goal of
the project was. The key? Compartmentalization. For example, one guy might know he's working on something top secret, but has no clue what. He's only
told to solder this piece to that piece again and again. Imagine a huge Lego set with individuals building each brick, but only a tiny core group of
people knowing the instructions, or even what the final product will look like.

If the work is done carefully, and spread out thinly and widely enough over time -- it wouldn't be such a stretch to keep it hidden. Besides, who
would give up their ticket to space by opening their mouth?

originally posted by: Jenisiz
...The coordinates are exact and geocached on the image itself. It is a boat that is shapped like a ufo. Tapers out towards the middle and then goes
back in. It's the exact same...and that's another point. I purposefully go out of my way to prove it's an ex boat now party house for squatters and
it's ignored.. lol...people just can't accept the truth.

Thanks for the effort and intrigue...
Mind tipping me to 'where' to find the 'geocached coordinates'?
Have tried every method, tool and application I know of...to no avail.
Likewise - do you happen to know when the photo was taken, and when the "ex boat" was moved from San Francisco to its present location?

The word 'craft' is at the crux of the deception.
One little word has such power to deceive and
hypnotize. It's breathtaking really. The entire
flimsy house of cards comes tumbling down
by removing that one masterful deception.

Yeah, heck, any of us with more than average brains have those moments when we, too, get sick of the stupid all around us (and IN us, too, to be
accurate)... but the moral implications (or more practically, who decides who lives and why?), usually, bring us back to the light.

The part of the story where TPTB deny humanity the info due to their love of power just seemed so unbelievable... and then I remembered some of those
I went to school with... the folks who hold IQ as the only metric of worth... and I shudder.

I just want to say I've been kindly given some of the more detailed PMs and from a cursory glance, see why they are private... some details could get
some folks in trouble... and assuming any truth... maybe dead.

So if given the go ahead, I'll paraphrase the juicy, alleged history bits sans ALL personal (or identifying) data, on both ends of the conversations,
and just give a narrative of some of the details that are unknown to most... so far.

I was correct in assuming a detailed narrative was held in those PMs... give me some time and I'll give the Cliff Notes on more details of the
alleged RKers...

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