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So am I the only one here just waiting for the hammer to drop and suffering to begin?...

I'm pretty sure thats the most anticipated thing about this show for a lot of people but whether it actually happens and what constitutes adequate suffering for this particular cast is anyone's guess. If when we cross the suffering threshold whether we know or not will be up to the individual to decide I think.

I'm pretty sure thats the most anticipated thing about this show for a lot of people but whether it actually happens and what constitutes adequate suffering for this particular cast is anyone's guess. If when we cross the suffering threshold whether we know or not will be up to the individual to decide I think.

Personally theory of mine is that the galactic alliance will show up and "reclaim" earth for the sake of humanity forcing Ledo to fight to defend is new home pr better yet one of these aliens followed him back to earth. If that doesn't happen it'll make for good fan-fiction material.

Personally theory of mine is that the galactic alliance will show up and "reclaim" earth for the sake of humanity forcing Red to fight to defend is new home. If that doesn't happen it'll make for good fan-fiction material.

lol The Alliance probably has far better mechs than Chambers, so Ledo most likely would not stand a chance against them with what he has now. A weaker Hideazure (I think?) would be a more sensible enemy that cast can deal with.

lol The Alliance probably has far better mechs than Chambers, so Ledo most likely would not stand a chance against them with what he has now. A weaker Hideazure (I think?) would be a more sensible enemy that cast can deal with.

yes that would be more sensible a couple of Hideazure followed him, reproduced, and now the very birth place of humanity is endangered.

Oh yeah! Very happy this got a subforum since I am a week behind on this due to various things.

My impression from watching the first two episodes is that the true darkness in this is the nature of humanity itself. But I think there will be could be some hope to it as Amy changes Ledo for the better and "saves" him.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Poor Communication Kills and the Hideuze are not as evil(or like BETA from Muv-Luv) as they are portrayed.

Not trying to be anal, but unless a story-based reason has been given, either in the anime or its official website, an ice age on Earth would have little to do with the Sun itself. That is, it can't be because the Sun itself became cooler, as it would mean that it has become a red dwarf and is beginning to die.

Even then, it takes millions of years for a main sequence star to turn into a red dwarf — well beyond any conceivable lifespan of humanity as a species. If humans were still around after millions of years, we would have likely evolved into something completely unrecognisable to present-day Man. For comparison, remember that modern human beings, as a species, have been around for about just two million years, while historical civilisation is only about 8,000 to 10,000 years old.

But this is science fiction, so I wouldn't rule out the possibility of aliens having disrupted the Sun's lifespan somehow to cause catastrophic environmental change on Earth. Is that the case? If not, I would guess that Earth entered an ice age due to some kind of nuclear winter or volcanic winter mass-extinction event. Earth has gone through multiple cooling and warming cycles through millions of years, all caused by natural geological and climatic conditions. But I'm assuming Earth's present state in this anime was a result of something man-made?

I thought they had mentioned the sun at some point, but I may have been mistaken. Regardless, I had interpreted it as the sun wasn't able to produce as much heat on Earth rather than the sun itself had cooled. Atmospheric changes, orbital cycles, etc could all result in less heat from the sun reaching Earth. As we all know, the Earth has had ice ages in the past, so that's not out of the realm of possibility (actually we're technically still in one, just in a warm period). I do wonder why an ice age would prompt a mass exodus to space, though. One would presume that the technology necessary to make such a journey would be sufficient to survive an ice age, thus no need to leave. This leads me to suspect you're correct in saying there was some greater disaster at play that made space attractive by comparison. The survival of humanity on Earth *seemed* to be a surprise to Ledo, so I feel like some kind of unexpected 'recovery' may have occurred, as well.

Speaking of the timelines of human existence, I'm curious just how long Ledo's kind have been adrift in space. It's long enough for language to have evolved to the point of being unintelligible, so at least several hundred years.

Speaking of the timelines of human existence, I'm curious just how long Ledo's kind have been adrift in space. It's long enough for language to have evolved to the point of being unintelligible, so at least several hundred years.

Oh yeah! Very happy this got a subforum since I am a week behind on this due to various things.

My impression from watching the first two episodes is that the true darkness in this is the nature of humanity itself. But I think there will be could be some hope to it as Amy changes Ledo for the better and "saves" him.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Poor Communication Kills and the Hideuze are not as evil(or like BETA from Muv-Luv) as they are portrayed.

Going a bit off topic but I don't really think the BETA are "evil" since they're more like organic machines given commands than anything else. Anyway, I have a feeling the Hideauze are going to more like Tyranids from WH40k in that they're probably naturally agressive and tend to eat most of what they come across.

It must be some kind of concentrated life sustenance liquid food.
Soldiers of the alliance probably don't have a food culture at all. They just need to assume nutrients to survive and nothing else.

There was also another aspect I was considering which lies at... the other end of the "feeding" issue.
I suppose Ledo's suit is technological advanced enough to "take care" of that problem by some kind of recycling system, just like the suits in Dune.