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I've got one of these. It would be sod to have a crash and have the bars twist, as the brake caliper arm would very possibly brake off the RH downtube cable ferrule. But it would be asking a lot for Mrs Wong to think of that design detail.

Nothing at all, they're just a bit heavy. Could easy loose 500g plus with some new wheels.

kgt wrote:

Lightweights on that frame! Please...

Thanks!!! One day I want to end up with a 'nice' bike but I can't afford to do it all in one go. The frame and wheels will be bought at separate times but I figure I'll get better use out of a lighter set of quality wheels than I will a 'better' frame so will buy the wheels first. One day they will be on a frame that doesn't offend you!

I think kgt was trying to communicate that Lightweights are too nice for a cheap frame (which I compeltely disagree with) but I may be wrong. Hard to tell the vocal inflections that go with typed speech.

By the way, I am curious as to how you removed the logos from the Ritchey bar and stem. Is it correct that they started out wet black but ended up matte?

Yeah, I knew what he meant but was trying to explain why I would put such expensive wheels on a cheap frame, it would be just until I can afford something better cos I can't do it all in one go. Although his comment did p!55 me off when I first read it!

The stem and bars were indeed previously wet black. I just brushed some paint remover on and it bubbles off within a couple of minutes. I'm sure they all work the same but the specific product I used was nitromors.

How do you like that saddle? That's the Token x-wing saddle, no? I think it goes by another name as well... anyway, it supposedly is super flexible.How does it ride? What's the longest ride (hrs) you've done on it? What saddle did you come from before switching over to this one?

Thanks!

Oh, and ride whatever equipment you want. Lightweights on this? Hell yes! Some folks here are quite snobby about what they think is "elite" and what isn't.

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