Also, I didn't realize until just now that Michael Giacchino ended up composing the Rogue One soundtrack. Alexandre Desplat had to leave because of reshoot scheduling, apparently. Not really sure how it's going to sound, as Giacchino only had four weeks to score the movie, but I'm hopeful. I generally like the JW soundtrack, and I think he's a logical choice for a film like this.

_______________"All that is gold does not glitter, not all those who wander are lost."

I always thought that they were based on Viking funerals and I'm sure I remember reading that in at least one Star Wars book. In any case, why do Jedi cremate their dead?

Well without an in depth explanation which I doubt Disney ever gives because they like to only use the prequels when necessary, I'd say it's because Lucas established midichlorians as an organism existing in the blood. While it'd be crazy to think no one ever tried experimentation before, I imagine in an age of cloning, a force sensitive could be cloned into a force-wielding army.

I also like to theorize that on a cellular level, if someone could replicate midichlorians, they could imbue a person with force potential, since they use the organisms in the body to channel the power. We at least know for sure the number of them correlates with power, from Anskin, and while it's never shown if they can be given, it's been said Vader's loss of limbs and injuries directly related to him losing some of his power.

just for the record, midichlorians were formally retconned in the final arc of The Clone Wars and now they run with the Force really being a mystical thing that can't properly be explained after all and midichlorians are a misinterpretation of it (Yoda talks to a being as connected to the Force as you can possibly get who says "what your science calls 'midichlorians'"). basically, midichlorians aren't the ultimate origin of the Force, either a misinterpretation of it similar to the four humours in real-world medicine or just a means of measuring Force-sensitivity.

_______________Requiescas in pace, Jurassic Park Legacy. We will never forget you.

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Can someone kindly walk me through how to use spoiler tag button here please? I just figured it out manually though.

I'm kinda the odd man out here. Liked the movie but not nearly as much as everyone else. Big spoiler.

Spoiler:

Super glad they had the balls to kill everyone. And the Vader scene was bad ass. Absolutely incredible last ten minutes. Although it does bug me that tons of footage was missing and you could tell the entire end was reworked. I'd love an extended cut, Deleted scenes, or atleast a feature(on the blu-ray) explaining what they changed and had filmed originally.

Again I know i have the unpopular opinion but I'd give it a 7 probably. Liked the movie but I just didn't click with any characters personally. The visuals and scale of things were astounding though. And it's a bummer that they had to switch composers and he only had 4 weeks to compose for this film. That's a lot of pressure.

Can someone kindly walk me through how to use spoiler tag button here please? I just figured it out manually though.

I'm kinda the odd man out here. Liked the movie but not nearly as much as everyone else. Big spoiler.

Spoiler:

Super glad they had the balls to kill everyone. And the Vader scene was bad ass. Absolutely incredible last ten minutes. Although it does bug me that tons of footage was missing and you could tell the entire end was reworked. I'd love an extended cut, Deleted scenes, or atleast a feature(on the blu-ray) explaining what they changed and had filmed originally.

Again I know i have the unpopular opinion but I'd give it a 7 probably. Liked the movie but I just didn't click with any characters personally. The visuals and scale of things were astounding though. And it's a bummer that they had to switch composers and he only had 4 weeks to compose for this film. That's a lot of pressure.

Depending on how Disney reacts, I imagine the story behind production will be interesting. I want to see what was shot for the trailer (I tend to think the TIE Foghter on the bridge shot was made up for the trailers), deleted scenes, and reworked scenes. You can tell from a shot with Jyn running with the plans amidst the AT-ACTs on the beach that the finale was likely quite different.

Can someone kindly walk me through how to use spoiler tag button here please? I just figured it out manually though.

I'm kinda the odd man out here. Liked the movie but not nearly as much as everyone else. Big spoiler.

Spoiler:

Super glad they had the balls to kill everyone. And the Vader scene was bad ass. Absolutely incredible last ten minutes. Although it does bug me that tons of footage was missing and you could tell the entire end was reworked. I'd love an extended cut, Deleted scenes, or atleast a feature(on the blu-ray) explaining what they changed and had filmed originally.

Again I know i have the unpopular opinion but I'd give it a 7 probably. Liked the movie but I just didn't click with any characters personally. The visuals and scale of things were astounding though. And it's a bummer that they had to switch composers and he only had 4 weeks to compose for this film. That's a lot of pressure.

Depending on how Disney reacts, I imagine the story behind production will be interesting. I want to see what was shot for the trailer (I tend to think the TIE Foghter on the bridge shot was made up for the trailers), deleted scenes, and reworked scenes. You can tell from a shot with Jyn running with the plans amidst the AT-ACTs on the beach that the finale was likely quite different.

Exactly. We also see

Spoiler:

the main bad guy walking along the beach in the water(among dead storm troopers), Jyn in her empire outfit when Forest Whitaker says "what will you become", and the tie fighter scene you mentioned(there are more). I'd love to see an extended edition with some of the lines and that Vader scene that was cut. Do you think Jyn originally lived? Either way I'd love to see what they changed exactly and why

I walked out of the force awakens loving it but now not so much. While I still like that film I find a lot of things that bother me about it now. I'm hoping that this film will have the opposite effect on me. I have a feeling it will probably get better with multiple viewings and I will appreciate it more in time. When I watched it a second time today a scene really stood out to me.

Spoiler:

The scene where Jyn sees the hologram of her dad talking about the plans was very emotional and directed perfectly IMO. Especially knowing in hindsight, what their fates would be.

Can someone kindly walk me through how to use spoiler tag button here please? I just figured it out manually though.

I'm kinda the odd man out here. Liked the movie but not nearly as much as everyone else. Big spoiler.

Spoiler:

Super glad they had the balls to kill everyone. And the Vader scene was bad ass. Absolutely incredible last ten minutes. Although it does bug me that tons of footage was missing and you could tell the entire end was reworked. I'd love an extended cut, Deleted scenes, or atleast a feature(on the blu-ray) explaining what they changed and had filmed originally.

Again I know i have the unpopular opinion but I'd give it a 7 probably. Liked the movie but I just didn't click with any characters personally. The visuals and scale of things were astounding though. And it's a bummer that they had to switch composers and he only had 4 weeks to compose for this film. That's a lot of pressure.

Depending on how Disney reacts, I imagine the story behind production will be interesting. I want to see what was shot for the trailer (I tend to think the TIE Foghter on the bridge shot was made up for the trailers), deleted scenes, and reworked scenes. You can tell from a shot with Jyn running with the plans amidst the AT-ACTs on the beach that the finale was likely quite different.

Exactly. We also see

Spoiler:

the main bad guy walking along the beach in the water(among dead storm troopers), Jyn in her empire outfit when Forest Whitaker says "what will you become", and the tie fighter scene you mentioned(there are more). I'd love to see an extended edition with some of the lines and that Vader scene that was cut. Do you think Jyn originally lived? Either way I'd love to see what they changed exactly and why

I walked out of the force awakens loving it but now not so much. While I still like that film I find a lot of things that bother me about it now. I'm hoping that this film will have the opposite effect on me. I have a feeling it will probably get better with multiple viewings and I will appreciate it more in time. When I watched it a second time today a scene really stood out to me.

Spoiler:

The scene where Jyn sees the hologram of her dad talking about the plans was very emotional and directed perfectly IMO. Especially knowing in hindsight, what their fates would be.

Sorry for the long post. Lots to talk about XD

I tend to go for long posts all the time so don't worry about it.

Regarding you're first spoilered section.

Spoiler:

The Krennic beach scene intrigues me a lot as well. It looks like the afternoon, after the majority of the battle has taken place. Oddly though, I think depending how much was changed, an extended cut might actually be really hard to assemble. Would love to see if it was possible, and Disney really wanted my money, an alternate cut, like what FOX did with the Rogue Cut for X-Men: Days of Future Past.

I myself still love TFA, but the more think about it, the more it kind of gets to me. Like, I know as well as anyone the real world can suck, and life isn't always happy. However, at the end of Return of the Jedi, we see our heroes happy, celebrating that even if the Empire is not completely gone, their main source of power is, and they've come out on top and we know they'll win in the end. But with the old EU wiped away, minus one or two books that came out early, we are suddenly thrust into this new canon 30 years later, and everything is worse. Han and Leia are basically divorced, their son is Darth Vader .5 (2.0 would indicate he was better than Vader.), Luke made and academy and lost it, even R2 said "screw it" and shut down. Besides the parallels with ANH, and the somewhat hopeful ending, the film kind of leaves me bitter. I know 30 years is a long time, and there can be so much good and bad in 30 years, but you don't hear about any of the good at all.

That is where Rogue One actually left me kind of happy. Yes, it does lead right into the events that'll eventually end in TFA, but coupled just with A New Hope, the message of hope made me happy. Plus Rogue One was just a great film to me anyway.

Can someone kindly walk me through how to use spoiler tag button here please? I just figured it out manually though.

I'm kinda the odd man out here. Liked the movie but not nearly as much as everyone else. Big spoiler.

Spoiler:

Super glad they had the balls to kill everyone. And the Vader scene was bad ass. Absolutely incredible last ten minutes. Although it does bug me that tons of footage was missing and you could tell the entire end was reworked. I'd love an extended cut, Deleted scenes, or atleast a feature(on the blu-ray) explaining what they changed and had filmed originally.

Again I know i have the unpopular opinion but I'd give it a 7 probably. Liked the movie but I just didn't click with any characters personally. The visuals and scale of things were astounding though. And it's a bummer that they had to switch composers and he only had 4 weeks to compose for this film. That's a lot of pressure.

Depending on how Disney reacts, I imagine the story behind production will be interesting. I want to see what was shot for the trailer (I tend to think the TIE Foghter on the bridge shot was made up for the trailers), deleted scenes, and reworked scenes. You can tell from a shot with Jyn running with the plans amidst the AT-ACTs on the beach that the finale was likely quite different.

Exactly. We also see

Spoiler:

the main bad guy walking along the beach in the water(among dead storm troopers), Jyn in her empire outfit when Forest Whitaker says "what will you become", and the tie fighter scene you mentioned(there are more). I'd love to see an extended edition with some of the lines and that Vader scene that was cut. Do you think Jyn originally lived? Either way I'd love to see what they changed exactly and why

I walked out of the force awakens loving it but now not so much. While I still like that film I find a lot of things that bother me about it now. I'm hoping that this film will have the opposite effect on me. I have a feeling it will probably get better with multiple viewings and I will appreciate it more in time. When I watched it a second time today a scene really stood out to me.

Spoiler:

The scene where Jyn sees the hologram of her dad talking about the plans was very emotional and directed perfectly IMO. Especially knowing in hindsight, what their fates would be.

Sorry for the long post. Lots to talk about XD

I tend to go for long posts all the time so don't worry about it.

Regarding you're first spoilered section.

Spoiler:

The Krennic beach scene intrigues me a lot as well. It looks like the afternoon, after the majority of the battle has taken place. Oddly though, I think depending how much was changed, an extended cut might actually be really hard to assemble. Would love to see if it was possible, and Disney really wanted my money, an alternate cut, like what FOX did with the Rogue Cut for X-Men: Days of Future Past.

I myself still love TFA, but the more think about it, the more it kind of gets to me. Like, I know as well as anyone the real world can suck, and life isn't always happy. However, at the end of Return of the Jedi, we see our heroes happy, celebrating that even if the Empire is not completely gone, their main source of power is, and they've come out on top and we know they'll win in the end. But with the old EU wiped away, minus one or two books that came out early, we are suddenly thrust into this new canon 30 years later, and everything is worse. Han and Leia are basically divorced, their son is Darth Vader .5 (2.0 would indicate he was better than Vader.), Luke made and academy and lost it, even R2 said "screw it" and shut down. Besides the parallels with ANH, and the somewhat hopeful ending, the film kind of leaves me bitter. I know 30 years is a long time, and there can be so much good and bad in 30 years, but you don't hear about any of the good at all.

That is where Rogue One actually left me kind of happy. Yes, it does lead right into the events that'll eventually end in TFA, but coupled just with A New Hope, the message of hope made me happy. Plus Rogue One was just a great film to me anyway.

I pretty much agree with everything you said. I just want Disney to include a feature on the disc with some deleted scenes, and maybe a 20 minute feature showing how the movie

Spoiler:

was restructured what was happening in those original scenes. Like when Hennric was on the beach. I just gotta know what was happening there! Was such an awesome shot. And I would love to know their original plans. I agree that since the entire end appears to be reworked it would probably be a completely different movie in an extended cut, so that's a good point. And that probably wouldn't work

Or alternatively we could have all those things I listed but have a slightly extended cut with some minor additions on top of all that(Extended dialogue for example). I just wanna see all the scenes as you can tell LOL. I'm so intrigued to hear their original plans

Wouldn't be surprised if Disney makes us double dip if they decide to do this.

On another note I'm really hyped up to see episode 8. Personally I think the director for 8 is a really interesting and exciting pick.

Bringing it back to your point about the 30 years that passed, I wonder if Disney will consider making films that take place in between that time period? They obviously couldn't be centered around the main cast but I'd be down to see some of that backstory. I expect episode 8 will be explaining this some too though (I hope).

saw it today with friends. i admit to being a little underwhelmed (i may have set my expectations too high) but still thoroughly enjoyed it. didn't get as much of a "holy sh*t this is awesome!!!" feeling for alot of it as i do for some other movies, but, like i said, still loved it

_______________Requiescas in pace, Jurassic Park Legacy. We will never forget you.

Can someone kindly walk me through how to use spoiler tag button here please? I just figured it out manually though.

I'm kinda the odd man out here. Liked the movie but not nearly as much as everyone else. Big spoiler.

Spoiler:

Super glad they had the balls to kill everyone. And the Vader scene was bad ass. Absolutely incredible last ten minutes. Although it does bug me that tons of footage was missing and you could tell the entire end was reworked. I'd love an extended cut, Deleted scenes, or atleast a feature(on the blu-ray) explaining what they changed and had filmed originally.

Again I know i have the unpopular opinion but I'd give it a 7 probably. Liked the movie but I just didn't click with any characters personally. The visuals and scale of things were astounding though. And it's a bummer that they had to switch composers and he only had 4 weeks to compose for this film. That's a lot of pressure.

Depending on how Disney reacts, I imagine the story behind production will be interesting. I want to see what was shot for the trailer (I tend to think the TIE Foghter on the bridge shot was made up for the trailers), deleted scenes, and reworked scenes. You can tell from a shot with Jyn running with the plans amidst the AT-ACTs on the beach that the finale was likely quite different.

Exactly. We also see

Spoiler:

the main bad guy walking along the beach in the water(among dead storm troopers), Jyn in her empire outfit when Forest Whitaker says "what will you become", and the tie fighter scene you mentioned(there are more). I'd love to see an extended edition with some of the lines and that Vader scene that was cut. Do you think Jyn originally lived? Either way I'd love to see what they changed exactly and why

I walked out of the force awakens loving it but now not so much. While I still like that film I find a lot of things that bother me about it now. I'm hoping that this film will have the opposite effect on me. I have a feeling it will probably get better with multiple viewings and I will appreciate it more in time. When I watched it a second time today a scene really stood out to me.

Spoiler:

The scene where Jyn sees the hologram of her dad talking about the plans was very emotional and directed perfectly IMO. Especially knowing in hindsight, what their fates would be.

Sorry for the long post. Lots to talk about XD

I tend to go for long posts all the time so don't worry about it.

Regarding you're first spoilered section.

Spoiler:

The Krennic beach scene intrigues me a lot as well. It looks like the afternoon, after the majority of the battle has taken place. Oddly though, I think depending how much was changed, an extended cut might actually be really hard to assemble. Would love to see if it was possible, and Disney really wanted my money, an alternate cut, like what FOX did with the Rogue Cut for X-Men: Days of Future Past.

I myself still love TFA, but the more think about it, the more it kind of gets to me. Like, I know as well as anyone the real world can suck, and life isn't always happy. However, at the end of Return of the Jedi, we see our heroes happy, celebrating that even if the Empire is not completely gone, their main source of power is, and they've come out on top and we know they'll win in the end. But with the old EU wiped away, minus one or two books that came out early, we are suddenly thrust into this new canon 30 years later, and everything is worse. Han and Leia are basically divorced, their son is Darth Vader .5 (2.0 would indicate he was better than Vader.), Luke made and academy and lost it, even R2 said "screw it" and shut down. Besides the parallels with ANH, and the somewhat hopeful ending, the film kind of leaves me bitter. I know 30 years is a long time, and there can be so much good and bad in 30 years, but you don't hear about any of the good at all.

That is where Rogue One actually left me kind of happy. Yes, it does lead right into the events that'll eventually end in TFA, but coupled just with A New Hope, the message of hope made me happy. Plus Rogue One was just a great film to me anyway.

I pretty much agree with everything you said. I just want Disney to include a feature on the disc with some deleted scenes, and maybe a 20 minute feature showing how the movie

Spoiler:

was restructured what was happening in those original scenes. Like when Hennric was on the beach. I just gotta know what was happening there! Was such an awesome shot. And I would love to know their original plans. I agree that since the entire end appears to be reworked it would probably be a completely different movie in an extended cut, so that's a good point. And that probably wouldn't work

Or alternatively we could have all those things I listed but have a slightly extended cut with some minor additions on top of all that(Extended dialogue for example). I just wanna see all the scenes as you can tell LOL. I'm so intrigued to hear their original plans

Wouldn't be surprised if Disney makes us double dip if they decide to do this.

On another note I'm really hyped up to see episode 8. Personally I think the director for 8 is a really interesting and exciting pick.

Bringing it back to your point about the 30 years that passed, I wonder if Disney will consider making films that take place in between that time period? They obviously couldn't be centered around the main cast but I'd be down to see some of that backstory. I expect episode 8 will be explaining this some too though (I hope).

I'm actually kind of scared though they're testing technology to keep Luke and the others young for future films. Like I want to see more, but certain characters in RO were a bit jarring at times. It mostly looked good to me but I had a couple issues. I don't think I could take wholes movies like that though.

Can someone kindly walk me through how to use spoiler tag button here please? I just figured it out manually though.

I'm kinda the odd man out here. Liked the movie but not nearly as much as everyone else. Big spoiler.

Spoiler:

Super glad they had the balls to kill everyone. And the Vader scene was bad ass. Absolutely incredible last ten minutes. Although it does bug me that tons of footage was missing and you could tell the entire end was reworked. I'd love an extended cut, Deleted scenes, or atleast a feature(on the blu-ray) explaining what they changed and had filmed originally.

Again I know i have the unpopular opinion but I'd give it a 7 probably. Liked the movie but I just didn't click with any characters personally. The visuals and scale of things were astounding though. And it's a bummer that they had to switch composers and he only had 4 weeks to compose for this film. That's a lot of pressure.

Depending on how Disney reacts, I imagine the story behind production will be interesting. I want to see what was shot for the trailer (I tend to think the TIE Foghter on the bridge shot was made up for the trailers), deleted scenes, and reworked scenes. You can tell from a shot with Jyn running with the plans amidst the AT-ACTs on the beach that the finale was likely quite different.

Exactly. We also see

Spoiler:

the main bad guy walking along the beach in the water(among dead storm troopers), Jyn in her empire outfit when Forest Whitaker says "what will you become", and the tie fighter scene you mentioned(there are more). I'd love to see an extended edition with some of the lines and that Vader scene that was cut. Do you think Jyn originally lived? Either way I'd love to see what they changed exactly and why

I walked out of the force awakens loving it but now not so much. While I still like that film I find a lot of things that bother me about it now. I'm hoping that this film will have the opposite effect on me. I have a feeling it will probably get better with multiple viewings and I will appreciate it more in time. When I watched it a second time today a scene really stood out to me.

Spoiler:

The scene where Jyn sees the hologram of her dad talking about the plans was very emotional and directed perfectly IMO. Especially knowing in hindsight, what their fates would be.

Sorry for the long post. Lots to talk about XD

I tend to go for long posts all the time so don't worry about it.

Regarding you're first spoilered section.

Spoiler:

The Krennic beach scene intrigues me a lot as well. It looks like the afternoon, after the majority of the battle has taken place. Oddly though, I think depending how much was changed, an extended cut might actually be really hard to assemble. Would love to see if it was possible, and Disney really wanted my money, an alternate cut, like what FOX did with the Rogue Cut for X-Men: Days of Future Past.

I myself still love TFA, but the more think about it, the more it kind of gets to me. Like, I know as well as anyone the real world can suck, and life isn't always happy. However, at the end of Return of the Jedi, we see our heroes happy, celebrating that even if the Empire is not completely gone, their main source of power is, and they've come out on top and we know they'll win in the end. But with the old EU wiped away, minus one or two books that came out early, we are suddenly thrust into this new canon 30 years later, and everything is worse. Han and Leia are basically divorced, their son is Darth Vader .5 (2.0 would indicate he was better than Vader.), Luke made and academy and lost it, even R2 said "screw it" and shut down. Besides the parallels with ANH, and the somewhat hopeful ending, the film kind of leaves me bitter. I know 30 years is a long time, and there can be so much good and bad in 30 years, but you don't hear about any of the good at all.

That is where Rogue One actually left me kind of happy. Yes, it does lead right into the events that'll eventually end in TFA, but coupled just with A New Hope, the message of hope made me happy. Plus Rogue One was just a great film to me anyway.

I pretty much agree with everything you said. I just want Disney to include a feature on the disc with some deleted scenes, and maybe a 20 minute feature showing how the movie

Spoiler:

was restructured what was happening in those original scenes. Like when Hennric was on the beach. I just gotta know what was happening there! Was such an awesome shot. And I would love to know their original plans. I agree that since the entire end appears to be reworked it would probably be a completely different movie in an extended cut, so that's a good point. And that probably wouldn't work

Or alternatively we could have all those things I listed but have a slightly extended cut with some minor additions on top of all that(Extended dialogue for example). I just wanna see all the scenes as you can tell LOL. I'm so intrigued to hear their original plans

Wouldn't be surprised if Disney makes us double dip if they decide to do this.

On another note I'm really hyped up to see episode 8. Personally I think the director for 8 is a really interesting and exciting pick.

Bringing it back to your point about the 30 years that passed, I wonder if Disney will consider making films that take place in between that time period? They obviously couldn't be centered around the main cast but I'd be down to see some of that backstory. I expect episode 8 will be explaining this some too though (I hope).

I'm actually kind of scared though they're testing technology to keep Luke and the others young for future films. Like I want to see more, but certain characters in RO were a bit jarring at times. It mostly looked good to me but I had a couple issues. I don't think I could take wholes movies like that though.

Same here. You know I actually made a topic on IMDB about this a week ago. Or atleast the subject. If you had told someone 20 years ago that CGI could do what they did in rogue one, people would have laughed at you. I can't imagine how tech will progress in the next 10-50 years and beyond. I wonder if some day far in the future(or sooner) if it won't matter if an actor is dead or old anymore?

I suspect that actors will start having to sign contracts to get their bodies scanned(like video games) so the studio will own their likeness in the future. It reminds me of that good old JP quote about being so concerned about whether you could or not, that didn't stop to think if you should. I totally agree that I don't want to start seeing this CGI actor thing become mainstream(in leading roles). Even if it looks perfect it just feels...... "wrong" and creepy to have something like that in a LEAD role if you know what I mean. Like let's say Mark Hamill died and they used him as CGI for a lead role. If I was his son I would personally be horrified to see my "dad" on screen if you know what I mean. Atleast that's my opinion.

Also I don't want anyone here to think I'm hating on technology. I love technology and I love what we are able to push and boundaries we can overcome. But it makes me think a lot about the future of films and actors.

Here is another long post(XD) if you're interested in more of my thoughts on the subject

Can someone kindly walk me through how to use spoiler tag button here please? I just figured it out manually though.

I'm kinda the odd man out here. Liked the movie but not nearly as much as everyone else. Big spoiler.

Spoiler:

Super glad they had the balls to kill everyone. And the Vader scene was bad ass. Absolutely incredible last ten minutes. Although it does bug me that tons of footage was missing and you could tell the entire end was reworked. I'd love an extended cut, Deleted scenes, or atleast a feature(on the blu-ray) explaining what they changed and had filmed originally.

Again I know i have the unpopular opinion but I'd give it a 7 probably. Liked the movie but I just didn't click with any characters personally. The visuals and scale of things were astounding though. And it's a bummer that they had to switch composers and he only had 4 weeks to compose for this film. That's a lot of pressure.

Depending on how Disney reacts, I imagine the story behind production will be interesting. I want to see what was shot for the trailer (I tend to think the TIE Foghter on the bridge shot was made up for the trailers), deleted scenes, and reworked scenes. You can tell from a shot with Jyn running with the plans amidst the AT-ACTs on the beach that the finale was likely quite different.

Exactly. We also see

Spoiler:

the main bad guy walking along the beach in the water(among dead storm troopers), Jyn in her empire outfit when Forest Whitaker says "what will you become", and the tie fighter scene you mentioned(there are more). I'd love to see an extended edition with some of the lines and that Vader scene that was cut. Do you think Jyn originally lived? Either way I'd love to see what they changed exactly and why

I walked out of the force awakens loving it but now not so much. While I still like that film I find a lot of things that bother me about it now. I'm hoping that this film will have the opposite effect on me. I have a feeling it will probably get better with multiple viewings and I will appreciate it more in time. When I watched it a second time today a scene really stood out to me.

Spoiler:

The scene where Jyn sees the hologram of her dad talking about the plans was very emotional and directed perfectly IMO. Especially knowing in hindsight, what their fates would be.

Sorry for the long post. Lots to talk about XD

I tend to go for long posts all the time so don't worry about it.

Regarding you're first spoilered section.

Spoiler:

The Krennic beach scene intrigues me a lot as well. It looks like the afternoon, after the majority of the battle has taken place. Oddly though, I think depending how much was changed, an extended cut might actually be really hard to assemble. Would love to see if it was possible, and Disney really wanted my money, an alternate cut, like what FOX did with the Rogue Cut for X-Men: Days of Future Past.

I myself still love TFA, but the more think about it, the more it kind of gets to me. Like, I know as well as anyone the real world can suck, and life isn't always happy. However, at the end of Return of the Jedi, we see our heroes happy, celebrating that even if the Empire is not completely gone, their main source of power is, and they've come out on top and we know they'll win in the end. But with the old EU wiped away, minus one or two books that came out early, we are suddenly thrust into this new canon 30 years later, and everything is worse. Han and Leia are basically divorced, their son is Darth Vader .5 (2.0 would indicate he was better than Vader.), Luke made and academy and lost it, even R2 said "screw it" and shut down. Besides the parallels with ANH, and the somewhat hopeful ending, the film kind of leaves me bitter. I know 30 years is a long time, and there can be so much good and bad in 30 years, but you don't hear about any of the good at all.

That is where Rogue One actually left me kind of happy. Yes, it does lead right into the events that'll eventually end in TFA, but coupled just with A New Hope, the message of hope made me happy. Plus Rogue One was just a great film to me anyway.

I pretty much agree with everything you said. I just want Disney to include a feature on the disc with some deleted scenes, and maybe a 20 minute feature showing how the movie

Spoiler:

was restructured what was happening in those original scenes. Like when Hennric was on the beach. I just gotta know what was happening there! Was such an awesome shot. And I would love to know their original plans. I agree that since the entire end appears to be reworked it would probably be a completely different movie in an extended cut, so that's a good point. And that probably wouldn't work

Or alternatively we could have all those things I listed but have a slightly extended cut with some minor additions on top of all that(Extended dialogue for example). I just wanna see all the scenes as you can tell LOL. I'm so intrigued to hear their original plans

Wouldn't be surprised if Disney makes us double dip if they decide to do this.

On another note I'm really hyped up to see episode 8. Personally I think the director for 8 is a really interesting and exciting pick.

Bringing it back to your point about the 30 years that passed, I wonder if Disney will consider making films that take place in between that time period? They obviously couldn't be centered around the main cast but I'd be down to see some of that backstory. I expect episode 8 will be explaining this some too though (I hope).

I'm actually kind of scared though they're testing technology to keep Luke and the others young for future films. Like I want to see more, but certain characters in RO were a bit jarring at times. It mostly looked good to me but I had a couple issues. I don't think I could take wholes movies like that though.

Same here. You know I actually made a topic on IMDB about this a week ago. Or atleast the subject. If you had told someone 20 years ago that CGI could do what they did in rogue one, people would have laughed at you. I can't imagine how tech will progress in the next 10-50 years and beyond. I wonder if some day far in the future(or sooner) if it won't matter if an actor is dead or old anymore?

I suspect that actors will start having to sign contracts to get their bodies scanned(like video games) so the studio will own their likeness in the future. It reminds me of that good old JP quote about being so concerned about whether you could or not, that didn't stop to think if you should. I totally agree that I don't want to start seeing this CGI actor thing become mainstream(in leading roles). Even if it looks perfect it just feels...... "wrong" and creepy to have something like that in a LEAD role if you know what I mean. Like let's say Mark Hamill died and they used him as CGI for a lead role. If I was his son I would personally be horrified to see my "dad" on screen if you know what I mean. Atleast that's my opinion.

Also I don't want anyone here to think I'm hating on technology. I love technology and I love what we are able to push and boundaries we can overcome. But it makes me think a lot about the future of films and actors.

Here is another long post(XD) if you're interested in more of my thoughts on the subject

Also would you be okay seeing a film set between ROTJ and TFA if it wasn't centered around OG Characters?

Yes, the time I want most explored now is the post-RotJ time period. With the old EU wiped out, it's now the most barren period in the SW timeline. I wouldn't even mind some cameos, or more mature animated spin-offs (meaning not over the top violent or vulgar, but more Clone Wars where the good guys could lose and people die. I enjoy Rebels but for a show set in the same time period as Rogue One, it is far too upbeat.) to get around the actors aging.

As long as it makes at least $800 million, then it will be a success. One has to understand that Rouge One is in many ways a prototype movie since it's supposed to launch a series of movies that fills in gap in the Star Wars franchise. And when one considers how it's made over $687.87 million dollars so far, and how it's the 3rd largest domestic movie with $375 in the United States alone, it's safe to say that $800 million-$1 billion is more then likely.

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yeah, iirc the general idea is pretty much just that, in addition to the Sequel Trilogy, they're gonna be making spin-off movies as well, now, which would fit in just about anywhere. my guess is that most of these will draw on the old EU or else (similar to Rogue One) be used to answer long-standing fandom questions or else just pander to certain fans. i'd be willing to bet that we'll eventually see spin-off movies focusing on Boba Fett and Thrawn, for example

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