Some people just like to pretend that the writing isn't on the wall. I'm not even talking about quality here, I'm talking about box office numbers. TDKR is going to out gross The Avengers. That doesn't mean that The Avengers will bomb or be a bad film the just means that The Dark Knight Rises will make more.

Lol "does not the most", I must've been tired as hell when I typed that.

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I'm going to see both of the films but as I said before and I'll say it again; there is no doubt which one will do the best at the box office. It's not a fanboy or fangirl thing it's just a fact that TDKR is a lock to make more than The Avengers. It's coming off of a 530million dollar mega hit and The Avengers is following a movie that did what? 170mil. And the highest grosser in the individual franchises did 318mil. There really isn't a huge battle, the question is how much will The Avengers lose by.

So is this thread only about the domestic gross or how much the films make overrall?

Some people just like to pretend that the writing isn't on the wall. I'm not even talking about quality here, I'm talking about box office numbers. TDKR is going to out gross The Avengers. That doesn't mean that The Avengers will bomb or be a bad film the just means that The Dark Knight Rises will make more.

Oh and if I'm not mistaken Batman Begins grossed 372 million in the box office, so just because none of the previous Marvel Studios films grossed as much as TDK doesn't mean The Avengers can't buck the trend.

That's flawed logic you're using there, I see where you're coming from but nothing is set it stone.

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I didn't start this thread so how the hell should I know?

Calm down geez, I was just asking because everyone keep using domestic numbers as if world wide grosses don't count.

Oh and if I'm not mistaken Batman Begins grossed 372 million in the box office, so just because none of the previous Marvel Studios films grossed as much as TDK doesn't mean The Avengers can't buck the trend.

That's flawed logic you're using there, I see where you're coming from but nothing is set it stone.

Of course nothing is set in stone but I see no reason why a Batman movie featuring Catwoman that is a sequel to a beloved film will not out-gross The Avengers? You can't compare TDK situation to the Avengers because the last Avengers related film did not sell an amazing amount on DVD like Batman Begins did nor was it as well received. (I loved Captain America BTW). Also The Avengers doesn't have one of the most popular villains ever and the star who played that villain probably won't tragically die before the film comes out thus giving the film more attention from the media than it would have ever received.

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Calm down geez, I was just asking because everyone keep using domestic numbers as if world wide grosses don't count.

I was calm when I wrote that response and I'm calm now. I said hell not the F-word. Hell is not a big deal.

I have seen nobody say that worldwide grosses don't count. They count and even there I see Batman beating Avengers in total. I don't think that the international thing is as cut and dry as domestic but overall Batman will win.

Of course nothing is set in stone but I see no reason why a Batman movie featuring Catwoman that is a sequel to a beloved film will not out-gross The Avengers? You can't compare TDK situation to the Avengers because the last Avengers related film did not sell an amazing amount on DVD like Batman Begins did nor was it as well received. (I loved Captain America BTW). Also The Avengers doesn't have one of the most popular villains ever and the star who played that villain probably won't tragically die before the film comes out thus giving the film more attention from the media than it would have ever received.

If I'm not mistaken CA:TFA did amazing well in the DVD/Blu-Ray department and it's Rotten Tomatoes score is 78% which isn't much lower than BB's 85%.

Very good point concerning the popularity of The Joker and Heath Ledgers tragic demise beforehand, but Hiddleston Loki gained quite a bit of buzz in THOR causing Loki's popularity to sky rocket (not that it's on the same level as The Joker).

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I was calm when I wrote that response and I'm calm now. I said hell not the F-word. Hell is not a big deal.

I have seen nobody say that worldwide grosses don't count. They count and even there I see Batman beating Avengers in total. I don't think that the international thing is as cut and dry as domestic but overall Batman will win.

Oh ok, I'm not saying anything is wrong with the word "hell" it's just the way you used it made you come off as being a bit angry.

As much as The Avengers will make (750-800 million), I just don't see the film eclipsing TDKR (850-900 million), especially after the cult-status that the franchise received with TDK. People can bring up Ledger's death and The Joker as the reason why, but it doesn't matter at this point anymore. Chris Nolan is a brand name, and Inception proved that. Now add Batman to the mix, and you've got a Box Office monster awaiting.

Funny, you were bragging no less than a page ago about how TDKR's now defunct Itunes record indicated it had more hype. Now you've recently been taking the stance of 'numbers don't matter since there's so many of them'.

Funny, you were bragging no less than a page ago about how TDKR's now defunct Itunes record indicated it had more hype. Now you've recently been taking the stance of 'numbers don't matter since there's so many of them'.

Sounds a little convenient.

Go back and re-read what I posted Einstein.

It's not something to gloat about. The Avengers held that record beforehand, and my mentioning of the record was to prove to that certain someone, ummm yeah, TDKR does have hype behind it as well.

Did you see me going around The Avengers boards and gloat about the record? No. Did I claim that TDKR will the biggest film ever simply because it beat out The Avengers in a MTV poll or at the Scream Awards? No, because it's useless, at the end of the day.

Eh, I'm sick of them, to be honest. Numbers keep popping in The Avengers and Batman boards every now and then, and it's starting to become redundant. I mean, what happens if both The Avengers and TDKR don't meet expectations at the box office, what was the point in obsessing over the numbers?

After taking a step back and viewing the situation more objectively, it becomes evident that 2012 is perhaps the jam-packed film year ever.

I'm not biased towards either way, but the only stats that matter are box office numbers, and in the past, TDK did a much better job than any of Marvel's movies, which suggests that TDKR will more likely do better. Which movie will actually be the better movie is yet to be seen.

Eh, I'm sick of them, to be honest. Numbers keep popping in The Avengers and Batman boards every now and then, and it's starting to become redundant. I mean, what happens if both The Avengers and TDKR don't meet expectations at the box office, what was the point in obsessing over the numbers?

After taking a step back and viewing the situation more objectively, it becomes evident that 2012 is perhaps the jam-packed film year ever.

Box office predictions appearing in a thread CREATED TO GUESS WHICH FILM WOULD MAKE MORE AT THE BOX OFFICE?

I'm not biased towards either way, but the only stats that matter are box office numbers, and in the past, TDK did a much better job than any of Marvel's movies, which suggests that TDKR will more likely do better. Which movie will actually be the better movie is yet to be seen.

Frankly, I'm just excited for this year. If we do die, then we'll die being entertained.