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Re: Arizona Fall League 2013 Info

I haven't checked Pitch f/x - but I bet you have Doug. Are they making Lorenzen work on secondary pitches? Is that why he is getting bombed? Or is he just not spotting his stuff well? He seems to be getting shellacked pretty regularly. Is there a reason to be concerned here?

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Re: Arizona Fall League 2013 Info

Originally Posted by RedlegJake

I haven't checked Pitch f/x - but I bet you have Doug. Are they making Lorenzen work on secondary pitches? Is that why he is getting bombed? Or is he just not spotting his stuff well? He seems to be getting shellacked pretty regularly. Is there a reason to be concerned here?

He has only had one game so far with PFX running, but I think we can easily figure out why he is getting hammered by looking at his walk rate. He is missing his spots. Add that in with a place where the ball flies and him working on a change up and it comes wrapped in a nice package of guys squaring it up.

Re: Arizona Fall League 2013 Info

Originally Posted by dougdirt

He has only had one game so far with PFX running, but I think we can easily figure out why he is getting hammered by looking at his walk rate. He is missing his spots. Add that in with a place where the ball flies and him working on a change up and it comes wrapped in a nice package of guys squaring it up.

Re: Arizona Fall League 2013 Info

Originally Posted by dougdirt

He has only had one game so far with PFX running, but I think we can easily figure out why he is getting hammered by looking at his walk rate. He is missing his spots. Add that in with a place where the ball flies and him working on a change up and it comes wrapped in a nice package of guys squaring it up.

That 0.6 K/BB tells a tale for sure.

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Re: Arizona Fall League 2013 Info

The purpose of the league is to give prospects experience against other top prospects. It's not to put up shiny stats.

Not everyone in the AFL is a top prospect. A big chunk of this league is never going to play in MLB.

If Lorenzen doesn't right himself before the end of the AFL season, this will be a terrible disappointment. I'm guessing there's not a long list of players who flopped in the AFL and then went on to be impact players in MLB.

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Re: Arizona Fall League 2013 Info

Originally Posted by M2

Not everyone in the AFL is a top prospect. A big chunk of this league is never going to play in MLB.

If Lorenzen doesn't right himself before the end of the AFL season, this will be a terrible disappointment. I'm guessing there's not a long list of players who flopped in the AFL and then went on to be impact players in MLB.

I think it's very important to note that the Reds are using this time, to convert Lorenzen to being a starting pitcher. He is working on a third pitch, and getting his body use to the schedule of a starting pitcher for the first time ever.

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Re: Arizona Fall League 2013 Info

Originally Posted by M2

Not everyone in the AFL is a top prospect. A big chunk of this league is never going to play in MLB.

If Lorenzen doesn't right himself before the end of the AFL season, this will be a terrible disappointment. I'm guessing there's not a long list of players who flopped in the AFL and then went on to be impact players in MLB.

Mike Trout hit .245 in the AFL in 2011. Mike Trout was the best player in baseball in 2012.

Lorenzen's throwing more pitches than he's ever thrown and is likely throwing a bunch of off speed pitches he's not yet comfortable with. His stats are pretty close to irrelevant IMO.

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