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well no shit. but do the anti-drug crusaders realize that THEY are the ones who create it? imagine if weed was completely legal and always had been. imagine if nobody of any rank ever looked down on you for smoking weed. imagine if the cops and all your neighbors didn't give a shit if you grew it. there would never be anything to be paranoid about. problem solved.

on an unrelated note, i was watching 'The Fly' a couple of days a ago i thought it would be cool if we all had little tele-porters beside our computers so we could share and trade weed.

When I went to hear Marc Emory speak in front of the Po-po HQ here, he had something to say about "paranoia".

"Those people in there [pointing to station], they ARE your enemies! They want to take away your freedom! They want to take away all the rights that you have and deserve as a Canadian citizen!

You are NOT paranoid...they ARE out to get you."

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You've felt it your entire life.
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Like a splinter in your mind...
Driving you mad.

actually, i find that pot can make alot of people (myself included) feel socially awkward, like evryone thinks you suck or youre too high or thats theyre all talking about you and demeaning you behind your back.

it can make it hard to be social for the irrational fear (paranoia) of being singled out and excommunicated for being yourself. alot of people have confided in me this phenomena.quite frankly i dont know anybody who is HALF as paranoiud as they SHOULD be about the cops.

Marijuana does in fact make you paraniod. It's not just cause of the popo. Think about it. Drugs like E and Coke will get you in even more trouble with the law, but people don't get as paranoid when they're high on those drugs. They will get paranoid about drugs deals and stuff, but not because of the effect.

--------------------"I would like to thank god for making me an atheist" - Ricky Gervais

Weed doesn't make me paranoid and I truely believe I'm right and the Law is wrong so I have no problem dealing with them and have never had them come down on me even when completely twisted, I do and can handle them.

Its no wonder weed makes people paranoid. It has a strong smell, poor profit margin (if you aren't the grower) and generally the guys you have to deal with have to lots of units just so they can feed their own habits, (let alone pay the rent). This is what you might call paranoia of being caught. But might I point out that the paranoid man doesn't take anywhere near as many chances. Paranoia can be a healthy thing to have if you are doing something that you might get caught for, you just can't let it go too far.

The other one is, Like many other drugs, marijuana exacerbates existing problems people have and self confidence is a massive problem in the majority of society - so personal paranoia is prevalent in many peoples lives when stoned.

Always in a post like this to avoid people getting on my back for giving mj a bit of "stick" I will say that alcohol is far worse at reducing normal people to idiots. Its not paranoia in alcohol, its aggression and general bad vibes.

I should mention that the title of this thread came from a pamphlet distributed on the net by my city's police department. It just bothered me that they used this claim as ammunition for their cause not realizing that they themselves are the cause of alot of this paranoia.

Quote:I HATE the vibes around places of drinking

I hear ya. I went to the bar every weekend for over 10 years and because I was always just as pissed as the next guy I never realized how annoying it is to be around drunks.

"Drugs like E and Coke will get you in even more trouble with the law, but people don't get as paranoid when they're high on those drugs."

Bad example. Overuse of any stimulant will introduce you to a kind of paranoia unimaginable from just weed.

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yeah.. you also have a high likelyhood of people commiting crimes against you the longer you abuse stimulants. either you will owe, or people will want what you have. fortunately, i have no first hand experience with this.

the same can be true with weed. so i can say, most paranoia due to drugs is from the illegality of the substances and the shady people that deal in them.

although, you are absolutely right, abusing coke, meth, or other stimulants will have you delusional after an extended amount of time. paranoia from pot smoking and dealing with people while high on pot does not even begin to compare.

"actually, i find that pot can make alot of people (myself included) feel socially awkward, like evryone thinks you suck or youre too high or thats theyre all talking about you and demeaning you behind your back.

it can make it hard to be social for the irrational fear (paranoia) of being singled out and excommunicated for being yourself. alot of people have confided in me this phenomena.quite frankly i dont know anybody who is HALF as paranoiud as they SHOULD be about the cops. "

I live in Holland so I don't have to worry about cops. I can smoke weed in public places. I still get paranoid sometimes. Usually when I am alone. Thoughts like; did I lock the door? I guess it's just a side effect of weed.

Quote:Mitchnast said:actually, i find that pot can make alot of people (myself included) feel socially awkward, like evryone thinks you suck or youre too high or thats theyre all talking about you and demeaning you behind your back.

Wow, thats me to a T. We must be soulmates

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Quote:mushmaster said:"actually, i find that pot can make alot of people (myself included) feel socially awkward, like evryone thinks you suck or youre too high or thats theyre all talking about you and demeaning you behind your back.

it can make it hard to be social for the irrational fear (paranoia) of being singled out and excommunicated for being yourself. alot of people have confided in me this phenomena.quite frankly i dont know anybody who is HALF as paranoiud as they SHOULD be about the cops. "

The only thing I'm paranoid about with marijuana, is getting busted with it and locked up in prison with murderers and rapists by some self-righteous do-gooder in the name of the law for being in possession of a fucking plant.

Other than that, when I'm stoned, I'm fine in social situations. It doesn't make me paranoid, just paranoid of cops trying to lock me in a cage. That's a healthy paranoia, or am I wrong?

Does this kind of propaganda exist in Canada? I was pretty sure it does, but not nearly to the extent that they take it in the US. Man, you should see some of the anti-pot commercials they put on TV.

Quote:Mitchnast said:it can make it hard to be social for the irrational fear (paranoia) of being singled out and excommunicated for being yourself. alot of people have confided in me this phenomena.quite frankly i dont know anybody who is HALF as paranoiud as they SHOULD be about the cops.

being yourself in general can make you antisocial for the fear of being singled out and excommunicated. And actually, while your quote is true, smoking weed can actually help you make freinds when your young, as an adult its a whole other story, I assume.

Quote:The only thing I'm paranoid about with marijuana, is getting busted with it and locked up in prison with murderers and rapists by some self-righteous do-gooder in the name of the law for being in possession of a fucking plant.

Other than that, when I'm stoned, I'm fine in social situations. It doesn't make me paranoid, just paranoid of cops trying to lock me in a cage. That's a healthy paranoia, or am I wrong?

thats true! and me too. I get soo much more paranoiea smoking a joint in the public than tripping balls (acid)on public. but I live in BC so I dont really worry about it too much except if I'm carrying quite a bit.

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