Come on, John, tell us how you really feel. John Waters, the Sultan of Sleaze, and Jeff Koons, the King of Kitsch, sat down on Monday to talk about Koons’ oeuvre and art in general. The pairing was part of L.A.’s Board museum’s “Un-Private Collection” lecture series. According to IndieWire, who’ve collected more of Waters’ quotes about Koons’ work, though the two may have a mutual appreciation of kitsch, they have very different demeanors. Apparently, Waters’ stayed open and candid through out the talk while Koons used rather academic language and was “a bit aloof.” Check out IndieWire for more of Waters’ take on Koons’ art.