Yeah, because you know all the geeks are on the verge of trying heroin and need that one last reminder not to do it.

That is odd, and a shame because this does highlight a number of features of heroin use I'd not heard of. It strips away some of the scary hype and then back-fills it with even scarier stuff, if you ask me.

factoryconnection:That is odd, and a shame because this does highlight a number of features of heroin use I'd not heard of. It strips away some of the scary hype and then back-fills it with even scarier stuff, if you ask me.

I saw it this morning and it answered a question I've had for a long time: Exactly how does a heroin addict get there? Well, at least it lays out one man's path, I'm sure every junkie has their story.

nekom:I saw it this morning and it answered a question I've had for a long time: Exactly how does a heroin addict get there? Well, at least it lays out one man's path, I'm sure every junkie has their story.

I knew that it was based on an amazing high and significant change in perception of pain, emotion, and mood. It makes a lot more sense that there would be a seemingly-innocuous build-up phase to addiction, though, with the sh*tty parts kicking in after it is too late psychologically to easily quit.

Opiates make me incredibly nauseous. I guess I am both lucky and cursed. Lucky my addiction potential is basically nil. Cursed because opiates are pretty much all their is for late-game pain management.

Prophet of Loss:Opiates make me incredibly nauseous. I guess I am both lucky and cursed. Lucky my addiction potential is basically nil. Cursed because opiates are pretty much all their is for late-game pain management.

Nausea is one of those things they don't tell you about. It's normal to boot when high. The aversion to vomiting is easily overcome, so you're not safer than anyone else. If you need pain management good luck and I'm sorry you are suffering.

Here's my reason: as a 17 yr-old, I watched the hottest chick I'd ever seen shoot up at a party. She was a model, just beautiful. I could not believe how much she just totally lost control of her body. At one point, I thought that she'd died (but it was apparently a "normal" trip for her). I'd call it one tiny level above a coma. No thanks. I'll stick to alcohol, weed, cocaine (if I know the source) and assorted hallucinogenics.

We need more stories that humanize people with addiction stories as opposed to the caricatures we usually get. Who wants to admit they've become an example used to shame others? Every human can screw up their life, but not all mistakes have to be permanent. Making large changes to one's behavior with help is daunting enough, when you try to do it alone out of a sense of shame it becomes Herculean. IMHO

Yeah, same goes for weed, I only get mine from a few acquaintances that actually grow it themselves, best I can do to make sure it's not cut with some shait, plus I'm all for supporting the local economy and not some drug cartel that slaughters people indiscriminately. Good luck trying to buy coke with a clear conscience.

mutterfark:We need more stories that humanize people with addiction stories as opposed to the caricatures we usually get. Who wants to admit they've become an example used to shame others? Every human can screw up their life, but not all mistakes have to be permanent. Making large changes to one's behavior with help is daunting enough, when you try to do it alone out of a sense of shame it becomes Herculean. IMHO

mutterfark:We need more stories that humanize people with addiction stories as opposed to the caricatures we usually get. Who wants to admit they've become an example used to shame others? Every human can screw up their life, but not all mistakes have to be permanent. Making large changes to one's behavior with help is daunting enough, when you try to do it alone out of a sense of shame it becomes Herculean. IMHO

/thanks subs

Meanwhile, in Maine, the governor has refused to pay for EMTs to stock a life-saving OD medication, because addicts aren't worth saving, and it might "encourage" people to do heroin if they know their friendly neighborhood EMTs will save them.

Those are the official reasons given by Governor LePage.

// you know, because you go home happy as a clam after getting your ticker kickstarted// and addicts are well-known for doing cost-benefit analyses right before spiking

Yeah, same goes for weed, I only get mine from a few acquaintances that actually grow it themselves, best I can do to make sure it's not cut with some shait, plus I'm all for supporting the local economy and not some drug cartel that slaughters people indiscriminately. Good luck trying to buy coke with a clear conscience.

Weed is almost never 'cut' with anything. Even synthetic weed costs more than regular weed.

If someone soaked your weed with formaldehyde or PCP they will more than likely tout that fact and charge you more for it.

But cartels apparently do make most of their money from cannabis... but if you're toking choice nugs it's very unlikely it came from outside your state let alone your country.

Meanwhile, in Maine, the governor has refused to pay for EMTs to stock a life-saving OD medication, because addicts aren't worth saving, and it might "encourage" people to do heroin if they know their friendly neighborhood EMTs will save them.

Those are the official reasons given by Governor LePage.

// you know, because you go home happy as a clam after getting your ticker kickstarted// and addicts are well-known for doing cost-benefit analyses right before spiking

WTactualF!? I guess all you can say to that is, 'Christ, what an a**hole.'

I have an older friend that was part of the NY counter culture scene in the 60's and 70's (Warhol's factory and all that). He still has nightmares about the methadone clinic, they were sold a great big fat lie and ended up being even worst junkies than when they were shooting smack. They start you off with huge doses and get you hooked quick, the whole thing is a racket and nobody that works at these clinics care one way or another about getting you cured, they just want you coming back for more.

dennysgod:Yeah, same goes for weed, I only get mine from a few acquaintances that actually grow it themselves, best I can do to make sure it's not cut with some shait, plus I'm all for supporting the local economy and not some drug cartel that slaughters people indiscriminately. Good luck trying to buy coke with a clear conscience.

I get my coke from a guy up in the mountains, he only makes small batches using locally sourced coca. He's pretty underground.

Artie Lange was talking about his pathway to heroin addiction...I think perhaps on Jay Mohr's podcast. If I recall, he mentioned that he was taking a LOT of Vicodin (60-80/day I think) and he ran out, was going through withdrawal, and was scheduled to play a club...the club owner saw him sweating, asked him what he needed to get on stage, Artie said 30 Vicodin...and the club owner told him that much Tylenol in the Vicodin was bad for his liver and suggested heroin instead.

Yeah, same goes for weed, I only get mine from a few acquaintances that actually grow it themselves, best I can do to make sure it's not cut with some shait, plus I'm all for supporting the local economy and not some drug cartel that slaughters people indiscriminately. Good luck trying to buy coke with a clear conscience.

What do they cut weed with? Oregano? Grass clippings?

If your weed can be cut with either of those without you noticing, you need to find better weed.

All coke comes from cartels. There is no other source. It comes from guys who indiscriminately use rape, torture, and the murder of children as weapons to control their distribution. So enjoy your high but know that doing it is contributing to a child getting murdered, a judge getting assassinated, a man's wife getting raped in the middle of the night, a poor fisherman getting murdered after smuggling product because a bullet is cheaper than the $200 he was promised.