WHY THE HELL IS OBAMA SUPPORTING TERRORISM IN EGYPT?!!

I don't know if someone has said this yet in the thread, but the reason is because the US wants to destabilize Syria and Iran, the only two countries in the middle east that won't let us push them around. It's about domination of the middle east.

Morsi supported the Syrian rebels, so he was a good asset, probably just like we wanted. In other words he was a good puppet, and thus is anyone else tied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

If we can't put a puppet into a nation democratically, then we'll destabilize using Al Quida mercenaries. Now that the nationalistic Egyptian military is in control we won't be able to use Egypt to put pressure on Syria. They aren't beholden to some calaphate dream, only the well being of their people.

Quoting: alter-ego

Winner. I retract my previous comment.

But don't be fooled by the army, they're brutal and corrupt muthas, if not religious fanatics.

I'll sum it up...The Egyptian people are sick and tired of the lying piece of shit politicians. They ousted Mubarak in hopes of a better leader and less of a liar. They got Morsi who promised the world but also then lied and was no better than Mubarak. The blue print for how democracy works is blistering evident in Egypt. LEADERS HAVE NO POWER WITHOUT THE PEOPLE, IF YOU LIE TO THE PEOPLE AND MISREPRESENT...YOU WILL FIND YOUR WAY OUT IN SHORT ORDER. That is how it should work in USA too but we are too pussied and fighting among ourselves with black and whites and mexicans. Gov't plan btw. So why does our Gov't want MB to win here. Because if the people win in Egypt..it will show the American citizens a perfect blueprint to a revolution that needs to be had HERE!!! IT SCARES THE LIVING FUCK OUT OF OUR LEADERS TO SEE SUCCESS BY THE MASSES AGAINST INEFFECTIVE LEADERS OF REPRESENTATION!!

Can someone please tell me in a summarized paragraph or something, and try to fill me in? I just don't understand why?

Quoting: Tasty THC

You understand that Egypt's military is the second largest recipient of foreign aid from the United States behind Israel.

The U.S. is controlling both sides of the coin...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44002301

That aid isn't a way of controlling both sides, we are just continuing to fulfill our obligation stated in the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt (look up Camp David Accords) that Jimmy Carter signed. Both sides stop fighting; we give them both presents for complying.

Quoting: alter-ego

Maybe not with Israel, but with Egypt it supplies the military with state of the art equipment and weapons and helps buy the top brass so...yeah actually it does control!

You really think billions of dollars won't control people? What turnip truck did you fall off of?

Geo-politics of the Middle East and the various aims and goals of the groups vying for control over military and political movements there are a little beyond the average GLP partisan windbag.

The most interesting thing is seeing the right wingers not understand how to explain Egypt, because the Obama admin isn;t doing anything to directly endorse any side outside of condemn the obvious violence.

I would think after the many months of people associating Obama with the MB it would be easy to try and make that association now, when the MB really need the help, where is there man on the inside Obama? No where....

The military knows it has the will of the people in Egypt, so they are acting on behalf of them or as they see it in the peoples best interests. The June 30th demonstrations to oust Mursi were much larger than the astroturfed "More tents than people" MB sit ins.

The majority of Egyptian people clearly do not want any type of Theocracy, and prefer secular politicians and political powers. They didn't like what Mursi attempted to do(for good reason) and knew it would be impossible to remove him if he were to continue operating as he was. They know the military in Egypt, and probably trust them a lot more than someone like Mursi.

The Salafist Party won nearly 24% of the vote in the Egyptian election, so they have recently switched gears and changed their stance on MB in Egypt, and now back the Egyptian military interim rulers.

Salafists are much more 'Islamic' than anything in the MB, lol. They are the same ultra-conservative brand of Islam that exists in Saudi Arabia.

Funny how that works huh?

OK you can go back to stupidly posting out of context photos of Obama and being confused.

Geo-politics of the Middle East and the various aims and goals of the groups vying for control over military and political movements there are a little beyond the average GLP partisan windbag.

The most interesting thing is seeing the right wingers not understand how to explain Egypt, because the Obama admin isn;t doing anything to directly endorse any side outside of condemn the obvious violence.

I would think after the many months of people associating Obama with the MB it would be easy to try and make that association now, when the MB really need the help, where is there man on the inside Obama? No where....

The military knows it has the will of the people in Egypt, so they are acting on behalf of them or as they see it in the peoples best interests. The June 30th demonstrations to oust Mursi were much larger than the astroturfed "More tents than people" MB sit ins.

The majority of Egyptian people clearly do not want any type of Theocracy, and prefer secular politicians and political powers. They didn't like what Mursi attempted to do(for good reason) and knew it would be impossible to remove him if he were to continue operating as he was. They know the military in Egypt, and probably trust them a lot more than someone like Mursi.

The Salafist Party won nearly 24% of the vote in the Egyptian election, so they have recently switched gears and changed their stance on MB in Egypt, and now back the Egyptian military interim rulers.

Salafists are much more 'Islamic' than anything in the MB, lol. They are the same ultra-conservative brand of Islam that exists in Saudi Arabia.

Funny how that works huh?

OK you can go back to stupidly posting out of context photos of Obama and being confused.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45358704

Sounds like a 60's IQ Obama worshipper hear. Or a godless dink red Chinamen, whatever, same difference in the end really.

The National Salvation Front, a coalition of pro-democratic and secular parties in Egypt, set out its objections to remarks made by President Barack Obama Thursday on the escalating violence in Egypt.

Led by Ahmed Said of the Free Egyptians Party, the group issued the following letter:

"Like most Egyptians, we listened with attention to your statement on Egypt's latest developments. As representatives of the non-Islamic political forces in Egypt, we believe in the same fundamental values on which the U.S. was founded. Be we also have 7,000 years of civilization and history that give us a special identity that we are fighting to keep since the Muslim Brotherhood came to power.

"Let us first inform you about who the Muslim brothers are: They’re an unlawful organization operating outside the realm of Egyptian law, receiving foreign funding and laundering money in a flagrant breech of international law. Their aim is to rule the world through a so-called Islamic Caliphate as they believe in their absolute supremacy.

They pretend they are God’s emissaries and they will not rest until they have forced the whole world into submission. For them, Egypt is the launching pad to achieve their fascist dream. Their international reach spans the globe and they command the hearts and minds of many unsuspecting politicians. They have used deceit, soft speeches, international funds and whenever required, violence, to impose their will.

"The rule of (deposed President Mohammed) Morsi showed how in less than a year they abused the people, reneged on their promises and overturned the rule of law by issuing constitutional diktats monopolizing the judiciary as well as the legislative arms of the state. This was enough to impeach any president in a democratic nation. Unfortunately, Egyptians couldn’t refer to their Supreme Sourt as it was besieged by thugs for over 60 days back in November of 2012.

"So finally, Egyptians took to the streets and this century’s second Egyptian 'peaceful unarmed' revolution took place in June 2013 to recall the president and reject the rule of the Brotherhood. Egyptians deposed their president not because he was not inclusive, as you so kindly represented, but because he broke his constitutional oath and became another dictator reminiscent of the previous dictator this same great people of Egypt removed in January 2011. This was the will of the people that the West is now trying to bend pretending

Can someone please tell me in a summarized paragraph or something, and try to fill me in? I just don't understand why?

Quoting: Tasty THC

You understand that Egypt's military is the second largest recipient of foreign aid from the United States behind Israel.

The U.S. is controlling both sides of the coin...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44002301

That aid isn't a way of controlling both sides, we are just continuing to fulfill our obligation stated in the peace treaty between Israel and Egypt (look up Camp David Accords) that Jimmy Carter signed. Both sides stop fighting; we give them both presents for complying.

Quoting: alter-ego

Maybe not with Israel, but with Egypt it supplies the military with state of the art equipment and weapons and helps buy the top brass so...yeah actually it does control!

You really think billions of dollars won't control people? What turnip truck did you fall off of?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44002301

It doesn't matter who the brass are, they're going to continue receiving our support so long as they continue to comply with the treaty, which pretty much just means not taking offensive action against Israel.

A general can say fuck America and defy our wishes five ways till sunday but we'll still send our support because we have to by law. Stop it with your half-baked conspiracies and learn how the world works.

But what MIGHT happen is we MIGHT send in some insurgents and antagonize them until they fall back in line.

Now if the support was coming from, say, the IMF, then they'd be under our control.

Can someone please tell me in a summarized paragraph or something, and try to fill me in? I just don't understand why?

Quoting: Tasty THC

You understand that Egypt's military is the second largest recipient of foreign aid from the United States behind Israel.

The U.S. is controlling both sides of the coin...

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44002301

Do understand that after the 1973 Arab-Israeli (6 day) war,Israel handed Egypt's and Syria's asses to them in a paper sack. But some good came out of the war as Egypt's Anwar Sadat made peace with Israel. Unfortunately, Sadat was assasinated by the "fundamentalists" within his own army. in 1981

I don't know if someone has said this yet in the thread, but the reason is because the US wants to destabilize Syria and Iran, the only two countries in the middle east that won't let us push them around. It's about domination of the middle east.

Morsi supported the Syrian rebels, so he was a good asset, probably just like we wanted. In other words he was a good puppet, and thus is anyone else tied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

If we can't put a puppet into a nation democratically, then we'll destabilize using Al Quida mercenaries. Now that the nationalistic Egyptian military is in control we won't be able to use Egypt to put pressure on Syria. They aren't beholden to some calaphate dream, only the well being of their people.

Quoting: alter-ego

But sadly the idiots on here see only the word Muslim and get racist exited.... Instead of paying attention to the word Islamists.....

Obama supports terrorism because its who he is. He was raised that way. He is himself a terrorist also. He should be removed from office and put on death row for the treason he has committed against this country.

...The most interesting thing is seeing the right wingers not understand how to explain Egypt, because the Obama admin isn;t doing anything to directly endorse any side outside of condemn the obvious violence...etc.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45358704

Actually, the most interesting thing is seeing the left-wingers say things like this that are directly and totally in conflict with the facts. Well, on second thought, liberals saying things that are in conflict with the facts isn't surprising, since everything they say is in conflict with the facts.

Obama has supported, funded and armed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and elsewhere. He was also the leader of the international cabal of terrorist-loving liberals that forced the Egyptian Army to hold elections and honor the results knowing full well that the Muslim Brotherhood was the only organized political force in Egypt and would win because of that.

To say that Obama hasn't taken sides is idiotically false. It would be like saying that Mursi hasn't taken sides because he's simply calling for the restoration of the result of the election.

I don't know if someone has said this yet in the thread, but the reason is because the US wants to destabilize Syria and Iran, the only two countries in the middle east that won't let us push them around. It's about domination of the middle east.

Morsi supported the Syrian rebels, so he was a good asset, probably just like we wanted. In other words he was a good puppet, and thus is anyone else tied to the Muslim Brotherhood.

If we can't put a puppet into a nation democratically, then we'll destabilize using Al Quida mercenaries. Now that the nationalistic Egyptian military is in control we won't be able to use Egypt to put pressure on Syria. They aren't beholden to some calaphate dream, only the well being of their people.

Quoting: alter-ego

Winner. I retract my previous comment.

But don't be fooled by the army, they're brutal and corrupt muthas, if not religious fanatics.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372776

With over $72 Billion in US aid since the 1970's there is plenty of corruption throughout Egypt. It's what our State Dept. does best.

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