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Re: New Article on Mangino

Seems to be that you can't be tough with players anymore or they go crying to their mommies and daddies. Like or dislike Mangino's "tear you down and build you up" practices, he's doing the same basic thing that all other coaches do. Maybe not to the same extent, but the concept is the same.

I'm sure there are worse coaches out there. If the coach wins, you'll never hear about it.

Re: New Article on Mangino

There is a difference between being tough on kids and asking them if they want sent back to the hood to become an alcholic like there father in front of everyone.
You should be able to tell a coach your personal problems and not have them bring them up in front of the team.
I am suprised one of these kids has not knocked his fat *** out yet.
By the way he is going to be releived of his duty's. That is my guess.

Nobody but HB knows for sure. You pretty much know nothing....like Knownothing would like to say.

Re: New Article on Mangino

- I think this is the kid that was already a controversial JC recruit when he was brought in since he had a prior arrest for rape (no conviction).

- Kerry Meier seems like a standup kid who sort of defended Mangino. Wouldn't his opinion carry some weight?

- So, if I understand this correctly, it all stems from an incident that a kid was "poked" in the chest by Mangino, probably while he was wearing shoulder pads?

Seems like Perkins was/is just looking for excuses to can Mangino. Fine with me. Hey KU -- it's medicrity knocking at the door. Better answer.

I agree with another poster that noted how Perkins has handled this badly. If you wanted to can Mangino, take the report quietly and dismiss him. Letting this circus play out in the press is certainly not going to have big-time coaches begging to come work for an AD that hangs his coach out to dry over harsh language and grabbing/poking a kid. If we think this doesn't happen on the majority of FB practice fields, lol.

Rumor is today is the day. Perkins wanted him to step down by Thursday or face being canned.

He cannot survive this. Even if Perkins disciplines him, his recruiting is torched forever.

Re: New Article on Mangino

Originally Posted by CycloneWarning

He cannot survive this. Even if Perkins disciplines him, his recruiting is torched forever.

I agree. I just don't see any way possible that he survives this...might not want to survive it! But he won't walk away from the money that is owed him...doesn't KU remember what it was like before he arrived on campus? The "university types" must not like him or this situation would not have even come close to reaching the levels it has already.

Re: New Article on Mangino

We need to be aware that these kids are whining about being mistreated in their minds...and this might be true? But it might not be as serious and we think when it comes to how a coach treats players. While I don't condone anyone saying hurtful things based on someone's past...or poking them in the chest...lets not yet make this guy out to be the worst person in coaching! He might be...but we really don't know it yet. Many of these kids probably had their "behinds" kissed since they were 12 years old due to athletic talent...maybe they just aren't used to tough coaching?

Re: New Article on Mangino

Originally Posted by cyfanatic

We need to be aware that these kids are whining about being mistreated in their minds...and this might be true? But it might not be as serious and we think when it comes to how a coach treats players. While I don't condone anyone saying hurtful things based on someone's past...or poking them in the chest...lets not yet make this guy out to be the worst person in coaching! He might be...but we really don't know it yet. Many of these kids probably had their "behinds" kissed since they were 12 years old due to athletic talent...maybe they just aren't used to tough coaching?

Exactly, let's not be hypocrits and pile on Mangino (get it?).

LE = good?

MM = bad?

Probably some shades of gray all around as to what is yelling/cussing and what is verbal abuse.

Re: New Article on Mangino

Sounds Familiar ? Remember John Mackovic from U of Arizona ?

This is from Wikipedia

Midway through the 2002 season, Mackovic told tight end Justin Levasseur that he was a disgrace to his family. This and other incidents led 40 players (including future P) to hold a secret meeting with school president . The players complained about Mackovic's constant verbal abuse, such as an ugly tirade after a loss to Wisconsin. Ultimately, Mackovic offered a public apology to his players, the university and fans.[However, whatever goodwill that he'd managed to restore quickly evaporated a season later; quarterback Nic Costa said that despite a very talented roster, many players had lost their love for the game due to Mackovic's brusque manner. Five games into the 2003 season, Mackovic was fired and replaced by defensive coordinator Mike Hankwitz. School officials said they had to act because it was obvious the Wildcats would not win with Mackovic at the helm

Re: New Article on Mangino

Originally Posted by cycopath25

I actually liked Mangino's comment about how now that they aren't winning as many games, it is suddenly an issue.

That's just proof that he is exercising fundamentally poor and inappropriate behavior. If you are acting the way you should be acting, these things will never come back on you when times get tough. You'll be judged solely on your job performance. It's a fact of life that people tolerate these things when you are successful, but they will never respect you for it and will quickly come after you when the opportunity presents itself.

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