Comment by Zurm

Comment by Lusis

You have to do this quest AND A Spark of Hope to get neutral with Sons of Hodir and head to Dun Niff.

Being that Sons of Hodir rep is one of the hardest to earn since you can't Champion them, I would suggest using this when doing the dailies and quests that give their reputation

Comment by Madrose

just a note here, if you happen to summon the dwarf guys to help you, they will only attack the elites. So if you aggro the non elites roaming there, you are on your own. Theyre easy to kill though.

Comment by Athene

What I hate about this quest is that you're pretty dead if one of the giants aggro you and you dont have any boulder.You can't pick up the boulders while in combat, I couldn't solo one as 79 retri with good gear and you can't outrun them before they kill you.So watch your back carefully, and use your flying mount to get out of danger any time you're not fighting.

Btw, the Charm on Earth is also to be used on Fjorn, not just the Stormforged Giants.

Comment by Bury

Best way I've found to do this quest:

Step 1: Fly to the lake east of Dun Niffelm. Look around the east bank of the lake, or the path leading eastwards from the lake (there are dots on the map denoting the path).Step 2: Find Granite Boulder on the ground. Click to pick one up.Step 3: Use Thorim's Charm of Earth on these guys: Stormforged Iron Giants, then kill them. The dwarves that spawn will periodically taunt before they die, so go hog wild on DPS.Step 4: Your first or second giant should drop Slag Covered Metal. Start the quest and kill Seething Revenant (non-elite) until you have 10x Furious Spark.Step 5: By now, you should have killed 5 giants. Pick up another boulder and kill Fjorn. After he's dead, make sure to turn in The Refiner's Fire to the anvil. If you forget to do so, Fjorn will respawn and camp the anvil. Also, make sure to pick up the follow-up quest from the anvil.Step 6: Fly back to Thorim, turn in both quests. Both quests will award you 22000 reputation with the Sons of Hodir (each), taking you from Hated to Neutral.

Comment by menta

If you throw him one of those Granite Boulders, then find another Boulder. Throw him another one. You'll probably need to do this 3 times (to make sure he will die out of that).

Comment by Tiberak

I was able to do the chain including this quest at level 77.

Comment by Netheer

I don't know if it's a bug or not, but after a while, only 1 dwarf spawned when i threw the boulder at the giants. Needless to say the dwarf died rather quick so I was pretty much on my own against the giant, and i stood little chance. Stupid!

Comment by Grakkh

Remember to do some damage to the giant/Fjorn yourself, if the earthens kill the target alone, you don't get credit. Noticed this the hard way.

Comment by piggybox

This quest totally sucks. The rock can't stack and the number of dwarves you will summon is random. I've seen 6 at max (lucky), but in worst case it's can be just 2 and they will die fast. So after a hard lesson, I learn that the best way to kill those elites is to make sure you fight them besides another rock so you can pick it up once you throw the previous one. I find the path in the east (with dot on the map as the above post mentioned) is the best place for this strategy.

Comment by Mindhead

if your not as patient as me and kill Fjorn first...

then u can patiently wait for him to walk a bit away from the anvil and take the quests safely :)

Comment by ArgentSun

Reference to Robert Frost's poem Mending Wall.Like the quest, the poem is about ending old grudges and renewing friendships.

Comment by Regar

You can Solo the iron giants as a prot warrior, happened to use the charm and only 1 earthen came to helpme, :P

Comment by exShinra

Don't know if its a bug, but if you delete the item that starts the quest, Slag Covered Metal, It will not drop again.

Comment by bn6870

You can only carry one boulder at a time.

Comment by wingsofscion

All the elites (including Fjorn) are stunnable. Unfortunately, they are not able to be feared. I guess I was lucky and got no less than 5 dwarves with each stone toss, but be warned, one of the elites can be near Fjorn, and there are no rocks next to the anvil to actually pick up. Barely managed as a 78 prot warr thanks to the add, which soon killed me.

Comment by Fujiama

By the way, the 22000 reputation from each of the quests get affected by the human racial "Diplomacy", so you do not start at neutral as human. I just did this and was surprised! I did not start at 0/3000 neutral, but 3600/6000 friendly :P

Humans ftw!

Comment by Trassa

Oops! wrong quest. Nevermind.

Comment by gamemaniak

Warlocks with felguard or hunters I would advise you to disable the intercept/charge ability until after you throw the rock. Otherwise your pet will stun the giant and the dwarfs will not spawn. I still managed to kill the giants with health funnel and drain life, but I got very good gear. You might not be so lucky.

Comment by cersei

A good way to earn money and exp(if ur´e rested) is too farm mobs in the area, each storm giant drops around 1k and gives about 1800exp not rested and 3700-3800rested

Comment by toastmaster7727

I think Blizzard made them elites so 1. The quest would be more epic and 2. So not just anybody can waltz up to the Stormforged Giant and loot http://wotlk.wowhead.com/?item=41556, thereby getting 22k rep automatically with the Sons of Hodur. Its still pretty annoying thought because I died twice doing the quest because of overaggro from the golem helpers. Ima moonkin though so no surprise.

Comment by Wikkie

hey

guys i done this quest but i forget to loot the gaints to get the quest item and now im hated with the rep and dont now how to be neutral

Comment by Danimalx23

BM Hunters, don't worry about throwing stones, just tank and spank with a Tenacity pet.

Comment by Eowyyn

It will only allow me to pick up one stone at a time :S this has happened each time I've tried. The one I attempt to pick up while i already have one, just disappears.

Comment by Jagganath

Fjorn is 79-80 ELITE! Use the charm to help you out.

Comment by alperen35

Does anybody know how to retake the Q after abandoning?

Comment by BrokenWing

I accidently aggro'd one of the 80 elites when i didnt have any Granite Boulders and had to fight it alone, level 79 blood speced DK with the axe from Amphitheater of Anguish and full savage saronite. Had no problems soloing it.

Comment by IrishHero

Where do you think that saying came from?

Comment by W0LFMAN

Step 5: By now, you should have killed 5 giants. Pick up another boulder and kill Fjorn. After he's dead, make sure to turn in The Refiner's Fire to the anvil. If you forget to do so, Fjorn will respawn and camp the anvil. Also, make sure to pick up the follow-up quest from the anvil.

The order you do the quests is not that vital. If Fjorn is respawned when you want to deliver Slag Covered Metal quest, just fly and land on the giant anvil a few times. That will make Fjorn to attack you but since you are flying, it will immediately leave combat. After doing this several times, Bjorn will suddenly change his location from 77,62 (which is near the anvil) to 76,63. Then you can safely deliver the quest. I tried this two times just from the curiosity and it works, I think it is some kind of bug.

Comment by Robyn

Beware that picking up a granite boulder while you are fighting a giant will despawn your current set of dwarfs (or at least it did for me 3 times in a row). All you need to do is do some dps, and they will go down. I found Faerie Fire very useful here, it increases the damage done by the dwarfs substantially and so made it a lot easier for them to hold aggro.

Comment by Kerghan

You can only carry one boulder at a time, but you can run back and pick up more and keep using them to summon more dwarves on the same giant. Be careful if you do this though, because you do need to fight the giants too if you want kill credit. I found out the hard way by letting 4 bounders-worth of earthen kill Fjorn. No credit :-(

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Comment by engraved

hi all,

well i am stuck after doing this quest and handing in to thorim, he didn't give me any quests :S, I need to do his chain to get friendly with the sons of hodir, I don't know what i did wrong i did every quest and I did the chain that ends with The Drakkensryd and killed the giants in the upper quest but that was the last thing he gave me, can you help me in that please?

Comment by addemu

I'm a 77 protection warrior... There are level 80(elites) to kill.. with about 37k health... can i kill them?

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Comment by Bloodhead

Why do I not have a Reputation bar for "The Sons of Hodir", in my Fation menu:(

Comment by CptnJaneway

Mages can spellsteal 'Seething Flames' from the 'Seething Remnants'

An extra 197-253 damage.

Not wonderful but every little helps

Comment by Starkey

How come i got 22000 rep and now im hated with Sons of Hadir what have i done wrong?

Comment by shizao64

wtf.....i did all of the sons of hodir quests, and now im hated with them? how does that work

Comment by dbalmbra

Don't know why the guy above got voted down, that's actually quite nifty. The big guy is still occasionally bugged, as a holy pally i just got a friend to help, piece of cake that way ;)

Comment by Pyronomikon

I was an 80 hunter with only quest blues or a 70 epic and I could easily solo any of the giants without the boulders. I still used them after accidentally not having one during my first battle but one throw should be good enough for any of the giants so not sure why people would waste time getting more to toss at the same giant.

Comment by carnieisil

for any affliction lock... or any lock for that matter... when you've found out that you have used up all your stones on random gaurds just pull out your infernal. sure you can only kill one gaurd every 20mins but it sure beats the hell out of flying to the other side of the map after abandoning the quest.

Comment by rmcdonald

For locks, if you get into any trouble on this quest remember that you have soul shatter in your arsenal which will drop aggro off you. I was fighting one giant when another aggroed on my earthens and they couldn't keep the taunt up on both of them enough to hold aggro off me soul shatter let me keep them off me long enough to drop them both.

Comment by elohsa

the giants are very easy to solo as a demonology warlock

just put the pet in and dot it full, then life tap a few times and drain your life back to full.when your pet gets low just health funnel him and they go down like critters

Comment by KensGirl

Yes. I went from Hated with one quest turn in to Friendly with the other.

Comment by Raynea

If you have problems with this quest... dwarf death and your own...

A handy hint.... stay by a place with more than 1 boulder. Call the dwarfs. cast or smack.. get a boulder and take them down from the Giants to Fjorn himself.

Comment by Raynea

If you have problems with this quest... dwarf death and your own...

A handy hint.... stay by a place with more than 1 boulder. Call the dwarfs. cast or smack.. get a boulder and take them down from the Giants to Fjorn himself.

Comment by Xrystal

When I did this quest on my warlock, the first couple of times throwing the boulder no Dwarves came out. You have to dismiss your minion!

Comment by GNiko

What I find most annoying and infuriating about this quest is that while you're having this epic battle with, basicly, demigods, you have to keep dodging mountain rams, because if they add, you can be in trouble.

Takes the edge off the epicness of this storyline right there.

Btw., thanks for the tip about using multiple boulders per giant: I used 3 on Fjorn, and by the time I picked up the 4th one, I actually had to rush over to tag him before the horde of Earthens killed him (which would have meant no kill credit for me)

Comment by Alpehue

If you a feral druid and borred, you can easily solo all of these giants in bear form. i usually had about 90% life left when they died. (couldent figure out how to use the boalders :( )

Comment by shadetouched

Mending Fences = Melting faces?

Comment by Candysmith

Okay.. Some previous comments said that this is supposed to get you to the point where the Sons of Hodir won't attack you when you get near them but I'm still at "Hated" with them. Any one know why?

Comment by apinchofhope

I actually didn't realize there was a quest item or anything (because I have quest helper and I just fly at the question marks on my map instead of reading quest logs, I know, I know >_<) so I started fighting the giants without boulders and thought to myself, "hm, 80 elite... odd. and not even a group quest."

but hey! you can totally solo these guys as a prot warrior and not need to get the boulders.

enraged regen when it's up, and life is good. :)

Comment by kakalukia2

for those of you who are extremely forgetful like i am: make sure your not in a raid group while you attempt this quest. nothing happens.

Comment by zalapski

some dummy, namely me, didn't pickup the slag covered metal. Now I cannot get the giants to drop it again. Any idea's?

Comment by theliferobotic

Be careful not to throw a boulder at a giant that is very close to another giant... I did this and the earthen attacked the giant that was further away, leaving me to kill the one I threw the boulder at by myself.

Also, the earthen killed the other one, but I didn't get credit because I hadn't participated. =/

Comment by youngfab

idid all this line quest but in the end i become hated by the son of hodir. you guys Why?

Comment by Xorlev

Did you pick up the Slag Covered Metal? It starts a new quest, the "The Refiner's Fire" which you turn in at Fjorn's Anvil, which starts the quest A Spark of Hope which you also turn in to Thorim. It's both of these quests which take you from hated to neutral (friendly as human).

Comment by personwithaname

i did the same thing only in cat for with maybe 40% health..i too couldnt undetrstand how to use the boulders ><

Comment by WTFMan

pvfd117, I couldn't pick up boulders after the 5th giant. :(

Comment by Mightymage

To kill Fjorn pick up another granite boulder while you fight and throw it at him. This makes the fight much easier and faster.

Comment by Phillycheese

You're an idiot. I've soloed this quest on 3 different characters; but I guess you know what you're talking about and every single other player is wrong anyways, right?

Comment by sausyy

ok, i killed fjorn like 3 times and the quest still wont regester that i killed him. and i have abandon the quest for the third time and am on the forth. Is anybody eles having this problem if so please tell me how to fix it. thank you

Comment by EpitaphAmantul

Because previously you had non-existent reputation with them, this quest bumps you up to hated. Further along the chain you'll hit neutral.

Comment by 1guusje1

lol, 22k rep from this quest... is that true?if it is, it's really easy to get revered!

Comment by erlang

As of summer 2009 you can no longer pick up more than one boulder, so once you get the slag metal immediately focus on the sparks with the occasional giant interloper, once you kill Fjiorn you cannot even pick up boulders even when you haven't turned in the quest.

Comment by Skadja

So. I pick up a boulder. I throw it at a giant. Dwarves appear, awesome! Giant kills each of them in 2-3 hits. Dwarves very quickly die, having done next to no damage to him. Priest soon follows, I can't do anything close to enough damage in the short time the dwarves and I live.

This is insane, the dwarves can't hold my agg even when I hold back and if they hold it at all, they proceed to die in 2 hits, naturally there are no other boulders nearby.

Is it bugged for me? Surely the dwarves are supposed to live longer than 2 hits?

Edit: It was. Relogging fixes it, for anyone else who has it happen. More dwarves appeared from each boulder after logging, too.

Comment by xaxinnuendo

Sometimes only 2 dwarves spawned. Giant took them out then me. GG QQ

Comment by zang1983

Died 4 times doing this quest. All I can say is watch out for them giants randomly charging you from faaaaaar away for no apparent reason. Same with Fjorn. :(

Comment by bottlecap32

when you have quest from Slag Covered Metal u can pull a seething remnant and let your dwarves kill the iron giant and get the quest item from Seething remnant and then kill the iron giant

Comment by xerophyte

Quest name is possibly a reference to Robert Frost's "Mending Wall."

Something there is that doesn't love a wall,That sends the frozen-ground-swell under it,And spills the upper boulders in the sun;And makes gaps even two can pass abreast.The work of hunters is another thing:I have come after them and made repairWhere they have left not one stone on a stone,But they would have the rabbit out of hiding,To please the yelping dogs. The gaps I mean,No one has seen them made or heard them made,But at spring mending-time we find them there.I let my neighbour know beyond the hill;And on a day we meet to walk the lineAnd set the wall between us once again.We keep the wall between us as we go.To each the boulders that have fallen to each.And some are loaves and some so nearly ballsWe have to use a spell to make them balance:"Stay where you are until our backs are turned!"We wear our fingers rough with handling them.Oh, just another kind of out-door game,One on a side. It comes to little more:There where it is we do not need the wall:He is all pine and I am apple orchard.My apple trees will never get acrossAnd eat the cones under his pines, I tell him.He only says, "Good fences make good neighbours."Spring is the mischief in me, and I wonderIf I could put a notion in his head:"Why do they make good neighbours? Isn't itWhere there are cows? But here there are no cows.Before I built a wall I'd ask to knowWhat I was walling in or walling out,And to whom I was like to give offence.Something there is that doesn't love a wall,That wants it down." I could say "Elves" to him,But it's not elves exactly, and I'd ratherHe said it for himself. I see him thereBringing a stone grasped firmly by the topIn each hand, like an old-stone savage armed.He moves in darkness as it seems to me,Not of woods only and the shade of trees.He will not go behind his father's saying,And he likes having thought of it so wellHe says again, "Good fences make good neighbours."

Comment by Justplayer

I didnt loot the giants because i didnt know that they drop Slag Covered Metal so can i still get one from the giants when i have completed the quest?

Comment by greenec007

Just completed again today an a second toon and the rep gains seem to have been increased. I was on a gnome character and received 28600 Rep with Hodir.

Comment by cooter

persay you did not know about the rep you get from the quest the refiners fire and just abandoned it, and youve turned in the other quest for the boulder throwing, what would you do then?

Comment by TheLazyCuddler

Was doing this quest (out of boredom..mostly)And paladin was going around killing the revenants(spelling?)Anyways, I didn't think he was on the same quest untill he used the item to summon all the earthies, Fjorn didn't go gray so I tought ''Cool, we both get the kill'', sadly, I stole his kill :/ So just some advice, if you're doing this, make sure you aggro him if there's other peopel who do it too, or group up.

Comment by thephoenix3000

Currently 28600 rep for non-humans.

Comment by Guibor

Did they change reputation ammount? Because I got today 28.6k rep with each of those 2 above, and became honored. I'm draenei, not human, btw.

Comment by Paleolf

you spelled revenants correctly.It was "anyways" and "tought" that were wrong.

Comment by Paleolf

you spelled revenants correctly.It was "anyways" and "tought" that were a bit out.

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Comment by Kaotac

Ugh. For some reason the damn boulders aren't sparkling and I can't pick them up. I have the charm and not holding a rock already.. but it just won't work. :(

Comment by CommodoreWinky

I was really struggling with this as a 77 rogue. I was generating so much threat and was up so close that the giants were regularly hitting me for 2-3k in the time between the death of the dwarf that was currently tanking the giant and when the next one happened to decide to taunt. Only getting 2 or 3 dwarves from a boulder toss didn't help either. My solution: Use more than one boulder!

After you toss the first boulder and you get some dwarves on him, go and grab another boulder nearby before you join the fray. With only a 10 second CD on the boulder toss, I could toss 2 or 3 of them and have 8+ dwarves whacking away on him. At that point, we made quick work of the giants with all the dps and taunts flying around.

Comment by ejnxyz

As of 4/15/2011 after finishing the two quests you are HONORED with Hodir.

For "Mending Fences" pick up the boulders around the lake, target one of the Storm Giants and use the item. A group of stone men will assist.

A "Spark of Hope" start quest drop item, "Slag covered metal," drops off of the Seething Remnants. I had to kill 4 to get to Fjorn.

Comment by Esploratore

As of patch 4.1 something (to give an exact idea, its name is "rise of the zandalari") of cataclysm, I seriously feared that completing this quest I would have wasted over 20.000 of reputation, as I still didn't have sons of hodir in my experience bar, I passed over half an hour looking around for WoW forums to find if this actually were the quest starting it, and so happened: I completed this, I got this message: "Reputation with The Sons Of Hodir increased by 28600.", "You are now Hated with The Sons Of Hodir", I completed the other quest that gives a lot of reputation with them, and it gave me 28.600 of experience again. Furthermore, I passed straight from hated to honored, "You are now Honored with The Sons Of Hodir".

Comment by LeminaAusa

You get a whooping 34320 rep with sons of hodir as a human with the guild rep perk at rank 2. Hilariously, completing this and A Spark of Hope brings you to revered.

Comment by BeerPriest

Hi guys.

If you are in a raid or party, sometimes you are not able to pick up the Granite Boulders.

Comment by Vexikuri

Like how the granite boulders are so heavy you can only carry one, but when it comes to using it, you throw it 100 feet with ease.

Comment by Igass

I foolishly did The Refiner's Fire Quest first and now all iron giant became dead iron giant what can i do?

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Comment by Jollygood

As of the Pandaria release, you can spend those spare justice points on commendations for the Hodir in Dalaran and then do this quest chain. The quest chain gets you to Revered. Depending on your racials, time of year, guild status, you can sit with a calculator and figure out how many you need. They don't cost much in terms of JPs. It's a great way to use up the JPs. I did this on a leatherworker to get a nice bag pattern.

Comment by pgbearensen

I just completed this and got the 34000 rep with the Sons of Hodir yet i'm still hated? this a bug?