…. Well, here’s my take.

All I ever needed to know about this entire Michael Flynn Rubber Tire is abundantly evident in the following CNN paragraph(s):

CNN – The Justice Department warned the Trump administration last month that Michael Flynn misled administration officials regarding his communications with the Russian ambassador to the United States and was potentially vulnerable to blackmail by the Russians, a person familiar with the matter told CNN

[…] The message was delivered by then-Acting Attorney General Sally Yates. Other top intelligence officials, including James Clapper and John Brennan, were in agreement the White House should be alerted about the concerns.

Which also explains why The Washington Post was the originating source of the ‘controversy’/’fiasco’. As previously stated numerous times, The Washington Post is the official leak-outlet for the political arm of the CIA. And the most politicized of all agents ever inside the CIA was John Brennan – a black hat extraordinaire.

So, swamp reviewers can begin to see how this Rubber Tire was constructed.

The political agents within the “intelligence community”, ie. the Big Black Hats, took the position that General Michael Flynn must have lied to Vice President Pence because their interpretation of the phone call they intercepted was that Flynn did give some form (context and actual communication unknown) of forward assurance to the Russian emissary that a Trump administration would not approach the Russian Sanction issue (which, we should remember, is based on a non-existent vast Russian election hacking conspiracy) the same way as the Obama administration.

To wit, the pre-inagural Trump intelligence community, politically motivated as they were, alerted President-elect Trump (through Sally Yates) that their opinion (baseline that Flynn lied) was such that Flynn had now opened himself up for blackmail from the Russians.

A convenient, albeit typical and transparently political, divide and conquer strategy that holds all the fingerprints of chief schemer and manipulator John Brennan.

Whereas John Brennan constructs a false dichotomy, a useful parsel-tongue narrative, to put a wedge between President-elect Trump, Vice-President-elect Pence, and NSA Director Flynn, when/if it becomes most politically useful to deploy.

As in, when they become President Trump and Vice-President Pence.

The space between the FBI (who reviewed transcript and said no structural communication content seemed to be a ‘Logan issue’), and what the CIA can construct (their opinion is, Logan issue or not, Flynn’s a fibber), is the useful space where leaked differences of opinion to the media can create the controversy.

The black hats within intel (Hired by the Bigger Hats) then take lead from the Big exiting Black Hats and tell President Trump as long as their exiting intel position is that Flynn has misconstrued the conversation, well, they can no longer brief the President about sensitive matters of national security because there’s a compromise (Flynn) within the room.

Rightly or wrongly, the remaining intel can hide behind the former parsel-tongue policy interpretations and refuse to support the Trump admin.

Sorry, that’s our policy *Quack*!

Regardless of whether VP Pence or POTUS Trump accept that Flynn misled, so long as intel quackers have plausible deniability to sell their belief he did there will always be an ongoing issue.

Within the context of Potus and VPotus accepting these same quacking voices will continue leaking to their official outlet, The Washington Post, about the ongoing internal dynamics of the schism within the intel briefing disagreement standard, there is no upside to continue fighting on Flynn’s behalf.

An unknown variable when Rubber Tires like this are constructed, is the expressed opinion/relationship of the words from Pence. Pence’s opinion of whether or not he was lied to, or even the truth behind what conversation he and Flynn may have had, becomes moot.

It’s ridiculous, however it’s also simply how political forces in the swamp keep the boil of controversy going regardless of the substance of the content behind it. Like Brennan implied, you don’t want those CIA folks to have a chip on their black-hatted shoulders because they can leak, and you cannot rebuke the leak without breaking the law and discussing classified information / briefings.

It becomes a “he said, and You can’t say“; a one-way conversation with the insufferable media more than gleeful to sell an undermining narrative.

The piranha’s are biting a fake news rubber tire that has been dipped into the boil; and the swamp defenders who are holding the rope are intent on convincing the viewing audience it’s really a side of beef.

Wait for the boil to subside, and if you stick around long after the audience moves on, you’ll see a rubber tire removed.

Deep State is always beneath the surface.

Dec 25th 2016 – Flynn talks to Russian counterpart

Dec 29th 2016 – Obama announces sanctions on Russia

Jan 15th 2017 – VP Pence appears on Face the nation.

Jan 20th 2017 – Inauguration

Jan 26th 2017 – Sally Yates (acting DOJ) informs President Trump there might be a conflict between VP Pence’s stated TV version (was told by Flynn), and what Intel community communicate to Yates that Flynn actually expressed.

1,066 Responses to Michael Flynn Resigns…

My concern about Flynn is that he was sloppy in the dinner meeting and phone call with Russia. Is that fair? Of course not but he knew that since the election, the Democrats were gunning for POTUS Trump and the Russian angle. Even though it was within his job duties to discuss matters with his counterparts, I feel that if he had waited until 1.20.2017, these issues wouldn’t be a factor now.

The Democrats are desperate and extra caution should have been used to not give them ammo to puff themselves up at press conferences about.

Flynn is in Intelligence but he didn’t handle this as an Intelligence Op.

I want people in jail over this. The President and his staff MUST have the ability to securely communicate with foriegn leaders and diplomats. If those calls are leaked, the people responsible must be rooted out and punished. There is no bigger issue in this story.

“The space between the FBI (who reviewed transcript and said no structural communication content seemed to be a ‘Logan issue’), and what the CIA can construct (their opinion is, Logan issue or not, Flynn’s a fibber), is the useful space where leaked differences of opinion to the media can create the controversy.”

Then Trump should have told Flynn to stay on and stated simply the FBI informed him that there was no “Logan issue” so what is the problem and then let the MSM/Leftist-slobs defend the CIA and turn the whole “quack controversy” on them. And then everyone can cheer for and defend their favorite Intel group (FBI v CIA).

Flynn didn’t lie to Trump/Pence because the FBI informed Trump that there was no issue. So the Left can then defend the CIA, look like idiots and Trump can continue to move forward and MAGA.

My thoughts exactly and I am so disappointed in our President for not expecting and countering this whole set-up. Flynn is so feared by the left: that should be the best reason in the world to keep him right where he was. He is a great patriot, gave up all his personal bs interests to serve this President and this country: He was mistreated and I personally am upset about that. He is a huge resource and has been lost to us.

Gen. Flynn took one for the Trump team. Obamy’s CIA is blackmailing Trump over Flynn, whom they detest for his earlier resistance to starting a war with Russia in Syria. Obama fired Flynn. So the earlier leaked Trump phone calls (with Australia’s PM) were used as a continuing threat. Unless Trump fired Flynn the leaks would continue. This manufactured ruse with the Russians was used as a pretext to come up with a cover story (Lying to the VP) to justify Flynn’s forced resignation.
We could discuss “right” or “wrong” but it is irrelevant in the DC Swamp where raw power is King. Trump has been taught his first JFK lesson, and that is a President is not King of the Deep State. Trump must play ball by their rules or next time it will be worse.
Unfortunately the “Putin is the Devil” faction is now in ascendancy making McCain, and Grahmnesty Neocons happy. So expect more tensions and threats of new wars to bolster more Spending on Big “Defense” Empire. DemocRats will demand equal Spending for their Social Pogroms and Shazaam! Trump at best becomes another Reagan. Doing some peripheral tinkering but leaving the USSA Deep State Swamp intact.
The USSA Empire will collapse, but the Establishment Elites will have feathered their nests, or will have flown away by then, whenever that happens. We will be left holding the bag, an empty bag, and bankrupt under the bus. There is no cavalry coming to the rescue, enjoy your scalping, dead or alive is not relevant either.
CYA, Comrades. You will learn to live in the USSA.

I see your point but if Potus can’t drain the swamp some of old vets will take it on and we are not afraid of who to target. It is a matter of self preservation in a country we have fought for in our history and we are not afraid to put out all stops and go for the prize. God bless America land of the free…

That’s what I’m thinking. Trump’s turn now. Plus, “the resistance” is made up of losers who have a special talent of making lemons out of lemonade. Just a matter of time before Trump’s opponents stick their foot right in it.

The press conference just ended and I dropped in on insider.foxnews.com site and saw the following headline:NEW INFO: Flynn Surveillance Required Approval at Highest Levels

If you read this headline and then consider Ace’s comment above, I’m just wondering if Trump isn’t back to his 3-D chess game. OK, let me put it another way. Think of the movie “Pearl Harbor” and the misdirection they did on Wake Island to see if they really had the Japanese Code. The line about the Water Tank breaking or something.

If there was “surveillance” approved at “the highest levels” could we be watching the mother of all traps being set (and now sprung) on some very well placed and unknown leakers??

I thought it was approved at the highest levels and that this actually occurred right after Obama levied sanctions against Russia but well before the inauguration. Which if true would mean someone high up in the Obama administration–perhaps Yates herself– granted permission to listen in on Flynn’s calls.

And the beauty of this is that it’s now a two way street. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. Sessions now has precedence and can declare open season on intel gathering between whoever he wants to. Maybe say perhaps…McCain and Brennan or Clapper and Lady Graham. The Black Hats just signed their own death warrants. Literally.

I hope…..Have another look at the monster picture that Sundance likes to post…..That is so true and drives the point home……These people are so well entrenched and hidden, that this swamp is going to be a tough drain……An old truism pops up in my head from my childhood days…..When you are up to your a$$ in aligators, it’s hard to remember that your initial intentention was to drain the swamp.

Yes, but alligators aren’t necessarily the brightest bunch. Deadly? Yes? But also known to be cannibalistic.
Trump is Trump. He’s navigated the shark infested waters of NYC real estate for what? 40 years? He’s had to deal with unions, politicians, garment district folks, the mob, you name it. He’s no shrinking violet. He’s a bar room brawler, and we’re not used to having someone like Trump on our side. We’ve been brow beaten by the Ryans, McConnells, McCains, and Grahams for years. We watched Romney throw the election to Obama. We’ve watched the Bush/Clinton cabal rip off our country and murder our sons and daughters in phony conflicts overseas. I trust Trump. He’s brilliant at what he does. And that’s navigate, conquer and fight battle after battle. Look what he overcame to win the Presidency? 16 well seasoned politicians, including a Bush. And he beat the intel community, Hollywood, the media and the establishment. It wasn’t an accident. Nor dumb luck.

And meanwhile, the congressional pack of pussy hat-wearing, hysterically yapping democrat poodles want an investigation. Well now that there is an AG, they can get an investigation. Let the chips fall where they may!

Wink. If you are about to board the Trump Jeep for a hair raising trip through Jurassic Swamp on your way to open up the swamp drain, might you not want to load up some neocon meat to throw out the back to distract the pursuing velociraptors?

Excerpt from: “CIA broke the law to take out its critic General Flynn”
By Thomas Lifson

“This last point is critical. The entire “scandal” is based on innuendo. Flynn tripped over his own feet by misinforming Vice President Pence on the nature of his call and allowing the veep to issue a too sweeping denial of any discussion. If Flynn had said in his conversation with the Russian ambassador that we will discuss the sanctions after Trump takes office, he might well have told Pence that they did not discuss the sanctions. And the CIA leakers could have used the appearance of the word “sanctions” in their transcript to brand Pence a liar. We don’t know, and for some reason, nobody is gaining access to the actual transcripts so that we may see the content. “

I have a feeling those transcripts won’t see the light of day. They probably do not match up with the Russian transcripts. But who would believe Russia? People believe they messed with our elections but where is the proof that would have required sanctions on them?

Today, is a defining day in the Trump Administration. With the Democrats full court press on display for the world to see, and Senate Republicans led by L. Graham going after Trump directly, this is just not going to end well. Already they are asking and want Spicer and Conway to resign. They see and smell the blood in the water. CNN is in total control of the narrative. Ryan and McConnell are not helping..all duck and cover. What they see is a story without a scandal they think they can ride to the mid-terms.

Desperate people to desperate things. They know how to play the game. Full bipartisan tag teaming on Trump. Promulgate the leak into a story into a scandal narrative take down Trump’s people like pawns by attacking his unprotected flank. In the end, no SCOTUS confirmed. I am afraid they will win. Trump needs us now more than ever.

I think Trump needs to give a JFK type address in a national address and let them know what kind crap the elites are pulling in D.C. But we already know what the government’s playbook would be in response should he do that. 😦

You want to help? Then you can help by stopping with your over the top hysterical speculation. Take a Valium, go for a walk or something, and get a grip on yourself. You’ve been around long enough to do better than this.

I have to believe you didn’t watch Spicer’s press conference today. He has been slowly civilizing the press. Today they took a giant step backwards but he kept discipline and in another couple of days we will see this scandal through the rearview mirror. I’m sure Trump has some doozies of distractions planned.

Nice assessment. It’s hard to say without knowing the contents and context of Flynn’s conversation with the Russian ambassador, but my hunch is that Flynn probably thought he was doing Trump and the country a service saying just enough to keep Russia from retaliating against Obama’s sanctions and diplomatic expulsions. I think it goes without saying that we were all more than a little concerned that Obama might go scorched earth in his final days, and an escalation with Russia was certainly in the cards. Nonetheless, while his intentions may have been good, he exceeded his authority and as a result put Trump in a very compromised position.

“To wit, the pre-inaugural Trump intelligence community…” Shouldn’t this actually read “To wit, the pre-Trump inaugural intelligence community”. The second way makes it more clear you are talking about Obama appointees.

Roll with the punches, bunker down when the volleys come in, and above all else don’t let the enemy dictate the order or fields of battle. Like they say, “United we stand, divided we fall.” And dividing us is they only play they’ve got.

I’m rolling and bunkering down, bro. We’re going through a rough patch. Not the first time, not even close to being the last. After having a little time to think about it this isn’t the worst thing that Trump has been through and he has the power of the presidency now. And he has an international army – us – at his back

Having said that, this rhetoric about Russia is truly frightening. It’s like watching retarded, malicious children playing with matches and gas soaked rags near an open fuel depot.

I agree 100%. The Marxist that previously occupied the Oval Office has definitely installed multiple forms of surveillance of the most advanced design. Make no mistake, Obama is the leader of the American Progressive/Marxist revolution. Trump is an existential threat to Obama and his network of globalist devils. The tentacles of their leviathan are installed throughout the media, academia and politics on a global scale. They will stop at nothing to achieve their objective of complete global control.
In all honesty, Trump is akin to George Washington fighting the second American revolution against the tyranny of a totalitarian global corporate monarchy.

Pray for our country. Pray for wisdom and strength for the whole administration; that they would turn to Yahweh Sabboath (the sovereign creator of the universe and general of the heavenly armies) for His protection and deliverance.

With General Flynn’s resignation, does he still get half salary retirement benefit even though he was on the job less than a month?

What if this was actually a “gift” to a start-up player, allows a different “face” to step in, and Gen. Flynn can continue to quietly provide highly focused advice with a less hectic schedule and profile.

Sadly – this was a big mistake for the DT administration to feed Flynn to the black hats that also assisted via Bezos who works with the CIA feeding the fake news about Flynn to the WP. The CIA does not like Flynn and vice versa. This was a misstep by the DT administration especially after the FBI already cleared Flynn after investigating these fake charges and vouched that he was guilty of anything improper or false.
Having said that the black hats won this one and have began the intensity in their planned coup against this administration. The Obama et al are forming the new shadow government as we speak behind his newly erected wall around his rented mansion 2 miles from the white house. Having collected 45 million dollars for his OFA he and Soros are given orders to their 30,000 shock troops against the DT administration and citizens/supporters of DT.
The accusation by FOX news today that a Russian spy ship was patrolling off the coast of Delaware were also fake news to continue saber rattling against Russia. Russian was in international waters and rightfully being there as reported at Zero Hedge.
Trump needs to clear house with the leaks within his own circle starting with Priebus and going from there. In the meantime Pompeo just travelled to Saudi Arabia and award the Vice prince and whahhabist terror exporter the ‘George Tenet Freedom Metal’ for his exemplary work and assistance in the WOT. This is just bad optics all around. Why is this man in Saudi Arabia providing those who kill our troops and are involved in ach coup during the past 8+ years being honored?
Nor has the three muslim brotherhood bothers and spies who set up our SEALS for ambush while informing AQ that we were coming. Not a peep despite the Obama administration placing these brothers into positions of secret military op and intelligence access while they hacked Wasserman’s computer and removed intelligence equipment?

Knowing that Sundance did not like the Flynn appointment, back in November, leaves me with mixed feelings about Flynn’s dismissal.

In any case, this is definitely not about Pence-Flynn conversation. Typically, such matters would be resolved by a private apology by Flynn to Pence and Pence stating that Flynn ‘misspoke’ and he repeated Flynn’s assertion on TV.

To sacrifice a few weeks old NSA advisor over a ‘conversation about a conversation’, gives me the feeling that there is more to it than meets the eye.

The article claims that sources confirm that Obama’s insiders were responsible for getting Flynn out. Very disconcerting article but worth the read. Eli Lake, who the article quotes, is clearly an anti-Trumper, but the information he provides is only a small part of the article.

Time to find out who / whom inside Intel community is leaking information to Press – regardless of their motives. This is not a case of Whistle-blowing. These leaks are intentional act to take down Presidency, and acts of Sedition or Treason against United States of America.

Who / Whom ever is behind the leaks needs to be arrested, charged, tried, and if found guilty very publicly executed.

I am upset and confused. I’m going to take my better half out for Valentines Dinner and will wait for SD’s analysis and opinions. Those will clarify the day/week. Meanwhile we are about to record our 44th inch of snow in four days….gas up the snowmobiles!!!

nwtex, I do it by using a Snipping Tool that comes with Windows. I grab that portion of the screen and save it as a jpeg. I then post the jpeg into WordPress. Then copy and paste the link into CTH. Kinda involved, but WordPress saves all the pics so they are there for later.

Ohhh! Thx PBR!! Mystery solved 😉 I never heard of the snip tool. I wonder if that’s the only way. Well, I’m going to save your info and then look around for that tool tomorrow. thx again…….I really appreciate you getting back to me!!!

Sorry. It was pretty elaborate with tweets every day since Feb 1, 2017. It actually says, “[Parody Account]” at the top left. I have to be more careful!! Rep. Cummings quoted from it today in a sound bite so I fell for it…

“Many civilians in the massive USG bureaucracy should be frightened. They too realize that they are disposable.That’s why we elected the “Fixer” Donald Trump to create a smaller federal government and a larger private sector.
Remember the Republic is intact and quite healthy. Heads will roll in order to make the USG more streamline and productive for the 21 st century. Thank you POTUS Trump!”

The Flynn situation is a perfect example of why everyone needs to be aware that Obama still has a LOT of power and will continue to use it to undermine Trump’s presidency. Obama is not gone he, along with the UniParty, will work tirelessly throughout Trump’s term in office to destroy his successes. Never forget that we are in a war and winning the election was only the winning of one battle. In no way was it the winning of the war. We have a long, long, LONG road ahead.

and don’t forget his SS# he lifted from a dead guy in Connecticut and his Selective Service form that he signed in 2007 registering for the draft (at least that ‘s when the form was printed that he signed!…little late rock star)

We all need to stay focus on the big picture. The daily minutia will continue as long as our president is still there. We are behind him all the way. We all know this is a part of the “spider web or deep state” or whatever it is that is our president is trying to dismantle it. The theme will continue about the Russian narrative. I am very sure the president was not expecting this, but he should have because the “signal” was out there, before and after the election. It will pass as he will figure out a way to divert this “attention” to something else. Regarding Gen Flynn issue, the tactics were slimy, but that is politics. It is dirty.

As an individual who claimed to be an expert in intelligence and security, his judgment did not reassure my faith in his position as a leading advisor on our national security apparatus. He walked right into their trap, and he jeopardized the president’s position, regardless if the leaks were legitimate or not. He should have known better, period. It seems to me he is the kind of an attention seeker. Not good for a principal intelligent officer. Same as Gen Petraeus (hopefully our president does not pick him) But it will be hard because who else out there that shares his vision, part of the “tripod,” Gen Flynn, Gen Kelly, and Gen Mattis. They used to work together and shared similar views. One last thing, hopefully, my feeling is wrong, but don’t have a good “vibe” about the vice president, before and now.

Pence is a very nice person, but he is not the brightest lightbulb in the chandelier. He was chosen because he was not a direct threat to Trump. He won’t actively conspire against Trump but he can to manipulated by Trump’s opponents into thinking he can save the Republic if he goes along with an impeachment. Christie would have been a better VP. He is smart and has fewer ideals.

I agree. This is my first comment on any website. I like the Treehouse. I think Pence said it’s him or me and Trump should have taken Pence’s resignation and made Flynn his new VP. I’m sure the political fallout would have been consuming; maybe Trump will take this route later when his Cabinet and Senate approved executives are in place.

Pence is defending the deep state. Flynn’ deputy was denied compartmented access to drug smuggling info regarding the Venesualian Vice President and that’s what brought Pence’s ultimatum, IMO. Drugs are part of Trump’s agenda and Pence was going to take on the deep state on this.

Without understanding all the details of why Gen. Flynn had to go, I am confident that this resignation will send a very clear message to the swamp that everyone is dispensable (even great supporters of PDJT) and that nobody is immune. Whilst you may have created a short-term ‘win’ for the dark side, you must be increasingly paranoid that your own performance and values are being scrutinised to ensure that you are putting America first.

I usually only lurk here…I never seem to feel as knowledgeable as most of you are on these issues, so I try to sit back and just soak in the info. My gut tells me that this was some sort of set up by PDJT and that Flynn was in on it. I think that Flynn knows so much about the inner workings of the swamp that he couldn’t be as effective in helping to drain it as he wanted to be in such a high profile position and that he believes he can do more good working “underground” so to speak. Something just feels “off” to me about this. I think PDJT was fully aware of what he was walking into and the level of outright sabotage he would encounter. We know he’s a brilliant man and feel confident that this is all part of his long game. We might not know the strategy right now, but like always…it will become clear. God’s hand touched this election and gave us PDJT and that didn’t happen for no reason. He has a plan so I will trust in it and I will continue to keep the faith and pray for our POTUS and his family.

The president will turn the tables on these Deep Swamp Birdbrains. They are too stupid to win this one. Some even think the President is tweeting secrets to a Russian Trawler off the NE Coast. They all win a Unit Citation Award…The coveted Krazy KuKu!

Trump had no problems with Flynn, he was with Trump from the beginning of this. Flynn NEVER mislead Trump, never. I don’t believe it for one moment.

Pence is the problem, I noticed when Pence was being interviewed by the media, he slants things and seems to take the stand that ” well Trump sometimes says things in a way that is upsetting, let me explain it in more MSM friendly way.

It was Pence and Pence alone responsible for this Flynn being let go of.

If it was Pense P-Trump better watch his back!!!!! Nothing can be done except having Pense go back to a more traditional role as VP. He was elected to the office, so not much that can be done except alienate him. I think there is more than one. If I were P-Trump I’d close ranks, and keep my cards damn close to my chest!!!!

“I expect for the FBI to tell me what is going on, and they better have a good answer,” said Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, which is conducting a review of Russian activities to influence the election. “The big problem I see here is that you have an American citizen who had his phone calls recorded.”

FTA “The entire government is on board (with the sanctions), there’s no division. For him (Trump) to come in and reverse…(the sanctions), he’s going to have to have a national-security explanation for why he’s…(reversing the sanctions). There will be people extremely upset who work in our intelligence community if, just in the name of getting along with Russia, we reverse this.”https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/12/mcfaul-russia-sanctions-hack/511886/

Good grief these people are evil. They told us. We did not believe it. phooey

I am not going into great detail but as I have mentioned in the past on LTG Flynn, he a great soldier and a man of fine character. I have worked in the same fields as he and been on the same battlefield. He was played or I should say he fell on his sword here FOR Pres Trump. He knows the inside game of the intelligence community and knows the internecine battles between DIA, CIA, DOD, etc and turf battles that go on here. THIS came from the upper mngmt of the CIA…