I think they knew that, and that's why there's a big "Hey! Look over here! It's the Enterprise!" at the end.

Hey remember when the Federation was nearly destroyed by the Klingons 10 years ago? Huh, no?
And for some reason the Enterprise was a few minutes warp from undefended Earth but wasn't doing anything I guess.

Sovereign looks fine in First Contact and Insurrection but the cg aztecing and textures in Nemesis are atrocious. That design looks far better when it isn’t painted in black and charcoal grey.

It’s also very dependent on getting that perfect angle shot.

Yeah, the Sovereign has very few good angles, primarily due to how flat it is overall. (In fairness, even the Galaxy doesn't have the ability to look good from any angle and from some it looks downright hideous, unlike the 1701 Refit.)

Hey remember when the Federation was nearly destroyed by the Klingons 10 years ago? Huh, no?
And for some reason the Enterprise was a few minutes warp from undefended Earth but wasn't doing anything I guess.

They had a really weird energy reading they just had to check out.

I mean, I don't think it's a bad idea. I'd rather have nerds talking about if they like or don't like the new Enterprise model than talking about how badly I botched the finale.

I'm honestly glad they didn't go further with the 2006 CGI. It's supposed to belong in TOS, not show "a modern vision of a starship" that would have clashed with everything else in the show.

It's definitely more appropriate for that show given the instances of the real model appearing on set in some episodes (I think it gets shrunk an trapped in a crystal block at one point?). Would have been nice if they could have reshot the scenes with real models.

Honestly just look at pictures of the filming miniature (one of the last they built for Star Trek) from First Contact, they gave it the same pearlecent-white sheen the 1701 refit model from TMP had and it looked great.

Honestly just look at pictures of the filming miniature (one of the last they built for Star Trek) from First Contact, they gave it the same pearlecent-white sheen the 1701 refit model from TMP had and it looked great.

The aztecing looks awful considering it has enough character from panels and stuff not to need basically grey digital camo spots all over it

edit: look at the TOS enterprise model in the smithsonian, the shading and grid pattern really do enuf for it

The aztecing looks awful considering it has enough character from panels and stuff not to need basically grey digital camo spots all over it

edit: look at the TOS enterprise model in the smithsonian, the shading and grid pattern really do enuf for it

Honestly they went with the look you're going for with the lovely CG model they built for Insurrection and it looked flat and cartoony as hell

Like, there's a happy medium between "overbusy gunmetal and raised panel lines everywhere" that seems to be the in thing right now and just looking like a low poly texture model from Beast Wars or something

The thing with the TMP style paint job is that each hull panel isn't really a different colour, it just has a different sheen over it so when the light catches it only then do you really see the detail in the reflection which then suggests scale; as the movies progressed and ILM switched to a simpler lighting rig they just flattened all that work and sadly most of the effect was lost.

Then years later you have horrible mistakes like the 4 foot Ent-D minature they built for the 3 or 4th season of TNG that had the panel lines physically modeled so they whole thing ends up looking like a chunky duplo sculpture in harsh lighting *shudders*

Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since.

Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since.

Accurate or is it actually completely free of lovely “humor?”

ymmv on humor obv

The pilot is the worst episode probably but of course introduces the characters

The dick jokes are heaviest in the first two or three episodes then it transitions to leaning heavy on the Trek and very light on the jokes. Probably something Seth had to do to sell the series to Fox.

It really does get quite good by the end and its looking like season 2 will be even better

I don't want to understand them, I want a comfortable neutral zone between me and those humourless monsters

That said Orville plays it pretty straight the pilot's predictably weak but it pulls up from there, the best jokes are situational and if you don't see where they're going by like, maybe the 4th episode tops then I dunno

Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since.

Accurate or is it actually completely free of lovely “humor?”

I don’t think there is a single dick or fart joke. A dog licks his balls in the background of one scene.

Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since.

Accurate or is it actually completely free of lovely “humor?”

It's not as frequent as you'd think for a Seth McFarlane show, but you probably wouldn't make it through a whole episode if you turned it off in a huff everytime there was a dick joke.

Hey Orville fans I only know one Orville fan IRL and he was pushing me to watch it and I generally trust his opinion but I asked him “I don’t actually want dick and fart jokes in my TNG homage. If I watch it but turn it off when that happens, how many episodes will I make it through?” He immediately backed off and hasn’t brought it up since.

Accurate or is it actually completely free of lovely “humor?”

If you committed to watching the Train'Req called STD, go watch The Orville. Yes, McFarland is in it. Yes, there's humor, but it's character and situation based. And yes, the latter episodes are WAY better than the former.