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Calling all HAN1500 Cub Owners

Do you have any pictures of you HAN1500 cubs ?I bought an OS .70 FS surpass motor and it came with a CUB two years ago (it was hanging in the back corner of an old cluttered hobby shop). The Cub was in bad shape and obviously crashed (and repaired badly). It was a difficult time in my life as I was dealing with the recent death of my father. My wife and kids urged me to buy it and get it flying to help get through this time(best $125 I ever spent BTW). I flew it a few months later. Its been two years now and I have a LOT of my repairs that I simply did wrong or didn't come out the way I like. I haven't flown the plane and she sat on the shelf. My wife and Kids have expressed to me that they would like see me flying it. Since it now has some meaning I decided to do it (even though the total end cost will have been probably three times the cost of buying a new one) Im going to recover the fuselage and add the current hanger 9 landing gear.The interior is a mess since I used the wrong primer and now nothing will stick. Fuel got on some areas and it is tacky gooie. I think I will clean it with solvents and sand the rest. I thought I would try repainting with Balsa USA miracle primer What im looking is for pictures of HAN1500 cubs so I have some references (mods very welcome). Also the OS .70 FS Surpass is old but running great. I'm planning on just remounting and flying it since I eventually plan on running floats. Also is this old bird tail heavy ?

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I have this model also. A member at my dads club gave it to him after it's 2nd or 3rd crash. Oddly enough it just needs some work at the hard points where the wings attach to the fuselage. I also need a new canopy, but that's just from the leading edge support breaking.

The main issue on this model was the slots in the fuselage. There isn't enough clearance for the control rods. Barely any up elevator, tons of down and it would actually stick the rudder to the right. I have a new wing kit for it and there is nothing inside the plane.

Hanger 9 makes a 4000 series now. More scale looking parts,better wings, a reinforced fuselage where the wings attach and a semi scale interior. The HAN 1500 I have has no interiror... at all.

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I did quite a bit of work restoring this cub this week. I decided to replace the old pushrods with the standard 2-256 metal pushrods. I replace the aluminum landing gear with the landing gear from the current hanger 9 .40 sized cub. the Great Planes .40 sized windshield fits nicely. the cowel from the current hanger 9 cub can be made to fit. The side windows were a lost cause. I got some .30 clear plastic from my local hobby shop. I think I can just cut a strip to cover all the windows from the inside and affix it with canopy glue. (don't know how i'm going to cut it yet). I would like to figure out a way to cut them so they fit IN the frames and still have them stay in. It was 40deg and rainy so I actually covered the fuse and fit the new gear and cowel. I will upload some pictures later.

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Some more pictures. I only have to trim the windows, add the black stripe on the side, and cover the rudder (have to figure that one out without removing it). I also have to clean up the cuts in the fiberglass. I am having a hard time making the cuts neat. I think im going to put a light coat of epoxy on the edges.

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Thanks for the info on the windshield and the canopy. I was going to try and mold my own, but that usually takes a lot of trial and error and it's usually more and more of a trial the more I error. Good info and your project looks like it's going great. I pretty much need to fix everything you have painted black in the cockpit.

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Good looking job so far! I would be inclined to remove the rudder and re-hinge after covering. How did you do the elevator? If you covered it while hinged to the plane, then keep doin what your doin, cause it looks like its working!

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Thanks for the compliments

The rudder and elevator both have robart hinges in them and I was concerned about causing more damage trying to cut them (the gap is a little big for me). I thought I would try and used a 21st century trim and seam iron to get the covering into the cracks (it has a really flat tip). I figured if that wouldnt work then I would go to plan "B" and cut the surfaces off.

I finnsished the covering today. The elevator and rudder came out ok. still a bit fa a gap but nothing that is going to be noticed on a cub. I cut the lighting bolt from trim tape and bought the cub stickers (from Hanger 9's current model).

Now it is onto rigging the flight controls and then fabicating windows.

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One trick I forgot to mention when reemoving the covering. if you must leave the surfaces on and you are recovering with the same color and type of covering, leave a thin strip of covering on the hinge joints (I left 1/16th on the top and bottom of the elivator and rudder). That way I dont have to go all the way accross the hindge area with the covering.

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Geesh I just found the original product page. It has this listed as having an aproximate flying weight of 7lbs. I know my motor is heavy (20oz OS .72 Surpass II ) but I weigh in at 8.5 lbs. I have figure out where I am gaining 16 oz from.

I am wondering about the wing loading and if will I have to fly at like 25Mph to stay in the air.

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Ok this want going to be a restoration thread but what the heck.

I completed the tail wheel last night. I figured the Sullivan tail wheel that was on there was still in good working order. I decided to clean it up and reinstall. it. I cleaned the axil and wheel up with a wire wheel. Sine the plastic is paintable I decided to try and put yellow ultracoat on it. I am happy with the results.

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I worked on rigging the flight controls. This is one of the areas I hated before. Originally the controls were operated suing old school balsa dowel with music wire attached to the ends. That of course worked but it didn't provide much elevator and bound up on the extremes.

The elevators are not connected and move independently. When I first did the restore I tried to use laser rod. I hatred the results. I got a lot of slop between the left and right elevators and servos. I had never used it before and I am sure I had made mistakes in the installation. There were also issue with the way they joined to one servo. Regardless I hated it and it bugged me.

This time I decided to use music wire and a plastic guide tube. The wire was soldered together near the servo. There is NO slop between the left and right elevator. They move as one unit. It is also a LOT easier to move.

With the wire I can get a full range of travil from Elivator and rudder with no binding.

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I had a major setback. I knocked the fuselage off the table I was working on. It fell onto the engine and broke the muffler out of the head. It took about 6 threads with it. This engine (os .70 Surpass version 1) is long since out of production. There are no parts anywhere. I was lucky enough to find a New in Box Satio .70 for $190 in the for sale section. I will have to sell the old one for parts. Its too bad it was a nice running engine.

I installed the motor mount (big PITA) and installed the new motor. Now I hasve to redo the Cowl. I think im going to order one fromwww.fiberglassspecialtiesinc.comhopfully they have one that fits better

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Got the wind screen today. The Great Planes one fits nicly. I tried to figure out if I was going to simulate a dashboard. I discovered that you can use whitebard markers and draw right on the ultracoat for planning before you **** covering off. (I ended up not liking it).

It was raining heavy from a tropical storm last night. I decided to make a dashboard and console instead

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Motor wired for Telemetry (RPM and Temp) . I added the spektrum RPM backplate sensor and the Tempature sensor. I wraped the wires in a peice of fuel line tubing where it goes through the firewall.

Things I have learned. The backplate sensoir needs modification to be able to fit and detect the crank pin. you have to make sure the temp sensor maintains direct contact with the head the best spot is positioned on the back of the head just at about the top piston to detect the cylinder tempature (learned that with helicopters.). The temapature sensor cable tends to lossen up over time. If you have it on the exausust you get much higher temps if you have it low on the head you get crank case temps. .

My kids also talked me into adding navigation lights. II purchased the RC-Lighnts kit (I could have built my own but that takes time and would not be as clean). will have to think the layout out a bit but I should be able to get a fairly scale look.

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I was at the local hobby shop getting a few parts. My kids thought I should add lights to the cub.I know they have little valuesince they really can’t be seen flying (unless it is dusk) but they have been my biggest fans so I decided to do it. It turns out it has been a lot of fun planning and installing them. Since cubs typically didn’t have them, I had to figure out how to do it to make it more scale like. I did find some pictures of full scale cubs with them (and a aftermarket company that sells them). I will be modeling mine after them.

I bought the RC-lights premade kit. I have the skills to make up my own kit but honestly the time this saves is well worth the difference in cost. The only piece of the kit I didn’t use was their wire. Their lead were only 14" and I have a spool of 26 gauge stranded wire. I started with the white position light and read anti-collision beacon on the rudder (it’s just a blinking LED - LOL). >>

There is not much left on the fuselage. I have the cowl coming g in from fiberglass specialty today and I started to make new side windows. >>

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Once that is done I’ll start the wing (I haven’t torn off the old covering yet)>>

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I got the correct cowl for The HAN1500 from Craig athttp://www.fiberglassspecialtiesinc.com/ last night. It dosnt come with dummy engines so I decided to save and cut the old ones off the first cowl. I fit the engine and made all my cuts so its ready to be sanded and painted. I will work on cleaning up the firewall next.

I will have to upload a few pictures . I took the summer off but I was thinking of starting work on it again. Thanks for the nudge . I still have to work on the wing and lighting. I painted the cowl but it took a few tries. Paint and I apparently don't get along . I mounted the engine and ran about a gal of fuel in the driveway to break in the Saito. I am having issues with the muffler loosing up. I have a 90 deg bend so I can point the muffler down and fit it under the cowl (like a pitts). Every time I run the motor by the end it has loosened up. I am going to try Teflon tape but my experience has been it doesn't hold up well.

I am wondering if I need to make a mount to secure it to the firewall.

I flew mine for the first time last Saturday 12-14-13 out in the desert. With everything set straight and true it required 3-4 clicks up trim and 2 clicks right aileron. I then flew it again on Sunday near home.
My plane weighs in at a AUW of 8.22lbs and I know you said yours was heavy also. I have no idea how they came up with the figure they supplied.

I haven't explored the slow flight characteristics until I am dang sure the motor will not stall. So far the .62 has been 100% reliable at idle, both in ground test and the 2 flights.
I read somewhere about the exhaust constantly loosening and mine did too during bench running and the solution was to tighten the nuts when the engine is HOT. I have not had mine come loose since.