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I'm with you guys...I like Pinder's pattern best, but I think it should be on a white fabric, or at the very least, a very light baby blue...most of all the film shots and posters I have (or have seen) give the impression of the shirt being either one of those colors....I think the perception of the general public would be the same either way; they will know who you are supposed to be.

The scale of the hexes, based on the interregation scene pics, look to be 1" to 1.25" across the facets.

Another question I have is the type of fabric it will be...Ledger's shirt seems to have a slight sheen to it, like satin or a nylon mix...it's not plain old cotton.

Sinister... those shoes are bitchin', man...excellent reproduction! Where did you get those socks? Hand painted?

I don't think it was white fabric. I see NO white at all or any appearance that white was used. It looks like very light purple with dark purple designs. I think the color and pattern from post #119 is the best so far. Very nice.

Hey guys, I was lurking these forums a while ago getting plans for a fett helmet. Then I saw this (while searching desperately for a shirt) and definitely had to sign up! I've been trying to piece together this costume for a while now and the shirt has been worrying me the most. Kwally I'm glad you're going all out making sure this looks good. You can definitely add me to that list for (I think) 2 yards. I'm a size medium so I'm not too sure how much I'd need.

You guys should do a search for the Soho Lab Greene Road shoes. Those are the ones I picked up.

Sinister... those shoes are bitchin', man...excellent reproduction! Where did you get those socks? Hand painted?

Thanks!
Anyone interested in the socks, they are from a company in England. They are actually knitted squares of color! No paint or dye. Totally screen accurate! I found them on eBay, but I know they have their own site too. I think I've seen it on SuperHeroHype. Their prices are totally reasonable, I got two pair plus shipping for under $40. Totally worth every penny!
Questions on the shoes... Please read post #125. Thanks!

Back to the shirt...
I like the color and patter on post #119.
I think the hexagons have 1 inch sides for scale.
I think the shirt material is a really pale version of the darker pattern color. Like in post #111.
I agree with Ghostsoldier that the shirt looks shiney, but that will all depend on what Kwally can get the pattern printed on.
I would rather have a slightly off shirt than no shirt at all...

By the way, a round of applause to Kwally for getting all this up and running... 8)

The honeycombs themselves are probably a dark purple that does look blue under different lighting.

The most popular size is 2" diameter (making each side 1").

One thing we need to do is determind which honeycomb patternes are actually on the screen used shirt. Personally, I do not believe that the circle pattern exists. I have seen some low res photos that makes it 'look' like circles, but are infact the 'Stars' pattern in a higher res photos.

regarding post #90 ref photos:
Pic #1 Only 1 honeycomb matches ref images rest are made up
pic #2 Again, Only one 'correct' style honeycomb. The rest are made up.
Pic #3 Getting closer, the stars seem too 'squished', and the plus symbol pattern looks like it should have more rounded edges. The hollow squares are not all the same size. The other two do not match any ref photos.
Pic #4 All the honeycombs appear to be made up. None are 'Correct'
Pic #5 The circle honeycomb doesn't belong, and the checkerd one seems like the squares are too small
Pic #6 Same as #5
Pic #7 Only 1 correct honeycomb, rest are made up.

Kwally, take a GOOD look at Toby's (sithcamaro) shirt. Yes, the pattern is off, but the colors are absolutely correct. It even appears to have that light bluish cast as do the other reference pictures. Take a look at the scan from the sticker book i posted...

It is navy.... and white. It is your eyes playing tricks on you to make you think it is blue. I would equate it to that old illusion where you stare at a black dot with a red circle around it for a minute. After the minute, you look at a blank white piece of paper and you see a green ring. Similar idea here, your eyes blend the navy and white to get a light blue. I don't know what to think about the type of fabric, i'd say study to picture I posted before of his collar.

WGoble, just wondering if you have confirmation from Sithcamaro himself that it is one a pure white fabric...I'm starting to think that the base is white, but it is a hard subject...this fabric order is going to be HUGE!!! I mean huge!!! I can't get a sample done up without wasting a lot of valuable time and money. If we can't come to an agreement, I'll ask for a sample for comparison, but it will set production back weeks.

Here is the pattern in navy and white and a sided by side shot of the one from post 119 and the navy and white. Hope this helps.
You know, I'm not even going for a costume. I'm way too heavy to pull this one off and I refuse to shave. I just really like the pattern and want a shirt like this to wear with my suits.

If any of you frequent the Hype (SHH) forum, then you know that pretty much every night it goes down and you get the "Database Error" message for about 2-3 hours. Anyway, point is that I am getting that message now.

There is a photo on the board of Toby's fabric before he started tailoring the shirt. The edge of the fabric has no print and it is just white. I'm not going to bet the farm on this, so if I post this photo and I'm wrong, I will openly admit it and say 'thank you for correcting me!', but right now, I'm pretty positive it is white............

So I was almost done with the post, and now the Hype board is working...
Here is what he said about the picture...

"...For some reason, the light blue colored shirts designs did not come out the color I had them. But I think they do look better on the white backing..."

Nah, anyway, here is some of what the other guys on the board said about the fabric.

yea youre right the white does look better but both are very cool looking though - jayff2005

I like the first(top) color/fabric best, looks more like the real one. -White_Knight191

Toby, my vote is for the white print.- BRIN

There you have it. Does this satisfy any and all queries on the subject?

As for the pattern, the only last issue is there are no polka dotted hexagons. That is, none of the hex cells are just evenly placed solid white circular dots... check the art book picture I posted and also the picture of the Joker's shoulder.

Sorry, I see the patterns have been fixed... awesome. They are getting really close!

since we pretty much have the pattern. We should try and vote. If you can put a survey box on here with 3 color sets (hex and fabric) and settle when at least a third or half the people have voted. the Hex size can always be decided later.

I'm going to put my vote for post 119. Pinder91's pattern with the correct color on a white fabric. It is really hard to realize that it is on a white fabric for some of you guys, but I REALLY agree with WGoble. If you really concentrate on the pattern you can see the white. Put a white sheet of paper next to it to help your eyes distinguish the colors.

I am with Kwally and WGoble completely. I bow to you both. :thumbup
No further questioning about the pattern, the color, the background, or the size. I would totally go with the #119 pattern and color, on a white material, with a 1 inch side on the hexagons. That is my final vote.

That is the shirt I think would look most like the one from the film, it is the one that I would want to own, and I think it will make most of us very, very happy...

I hate to p-i-s-s in the bucket again,
lol, but i think printing on a WHITE fabric, you will need to use these colors. I mean, still you the pattern from post 119, but it looks washed out slightly... make the colors more pronounced like this. Imagine what they will look like on a white fabric... it will be slightly translucent with the right lighting. I've noticed with the fabrics, they come back a severely brighter sometimes... I'd go pretty harsh with the navy/violet color, and leave the base a basic white...