Unconventional coach was a winner; Manti for Heisman

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I just love it when people are so bitter and their hatred of
BYU(or Mormons) is so consuming of their time and emotions that even when issues
have litte-to-nothing to do with BYU that their emotions and thoughs go
immediatley there. My comment was far from a rant. For rant, see a perfect
example of what I"m talking about in Antelope Valley as the article has
little to nothing relating to BYU, yet Antelope is so consumed about BYU that
his thoughts immediately and almost entirely go there.

If I remember
right, you're in the same boat Y ask Y is that right?

Again -
I'm so happy when people are upset and bothered by all things BYU/Mormons.
Such childish rants and behavior are expected out of my 3 yeard old daughter.
When others act the same, I just can't help but laugh.

Y ask Y,
are your thoughts and emotions controlled by BYU hatred? If so, I'm happy
it makes you so upset also!

Y71COLLEGE STATION, TX

Nov. 26, 2012 1:30 p.m.

Teo is a great story and a fine player. He may even be one of the best defensive
players today. But he is 5th on his own team for tackles for loss and is far
more the product of Notre Dame media hype than a genuine Heisman-worthy
recipient. He is not the "outstanding" player in America by a long shot.
That title belongs to Johnny Manziel and anyone who has seen his body of work
over the year understands that. Over 3,000 yards passing/1,000 rushing (4,500
yards total offense) against SEC defenses in 12 games? Cam Newton had 300 less
in 14 games and Tebow, 500 less in 13 games. Give Teo the Butkis, but Heisman,
not a chance!

Y Ask YProvo, UT

Nov. 26, 2012 11:40 a.m.

The Heisman? Mike, you need to think about that a bit more. To even propose such
a thing reflects badly on you as a "sports writer".

It would
make more sense for Teo to be put up for the Bronko Nagurski Award, or Buck
Buchanan Award, or Butkus Award, or Chuck Bednarik Award, or the Jim Thorpe
Award, or even the Gagliardi Trophy, but NOT the Heisman!

Y Ask YProvo, UT

Nov. 26, 2012 11:16 a.m.

Ted H.

What was that rant all about?

nomoDraper, UT

Nov. 26, 2012 11:04 a.m.

Father of 4 your are spot on, in every single sport in the NCAA a freshman can
and has been named the best of their sport. There are youngsters winning gold
medals in the Olympics, there are freshman winning the NCAA and being voted
MVP's in evey other sport, so football writers won't vote for a
freshman for the Heisman. give me a break that goes back to the time when
freshman were not allowed to play varsity football, those days are long gone!!
If writers can't see that, we need a entirely new voting pool.

Father of FourBillings, MT

Nov. 26, 2012 10:09 a.m.

1. The story on Gagliardi is fantastic. Tackling drills in practice is the
dumbest thing I've ever seen. Nearly every kid on my 3 sons little league
teams have been hurt in practice. Save the tackling drills for games.2.
Manti Te'o is overhyped (last I checked, the entire team stuffed USC at the
goal line but I keep hearing how he lead the team to stop USC) but he is a great
player. I also love his Mormon tattoo, something none of you mentioned. I
actually love that he has this crazy arm sleeve tattoo but he's still a
great ambassador for our faith. It shows we aren't all lilly-white perfect
rule followers. It takes all kinds, thankfully.3. Not voting for Manziel
because he's a freshman is ridiculous. The Heisman is about the best
college player, hands down. Arguments like not voting for a freshman, or not
voting for someone because he's not an NFL talent (arguments I've
heard in previous years), don't hold water. Using a double-blind test, vote
for the best player in the game. That's who should win the award.

Ted H.Midvale, UT

Nov. 26, 2012 9:09 a.m.

@antelopevalley,

I'm so happy BYU has a stranglehold on your
emotions. I'm happy that all things BYU bother you. I'm happy
knowing that any article that could somehow tie in to BYU(as in Manti being
recruited by BYU) drives your thoughts immediately to BYU.

I'm
happy knowing that any time you hear the words BYU, Mormons, General Conference,
temple, church, religion, or even Jello your thoughts immediately go to your BYU
obsession.

I am happy byu bothers you.

It puts a smile on
my face knowing how sad BYU makes you! Thanks!

common twitVernal, UT

Nov. 26, 2012 8:04 a.m.

I have read two books about John Gagliardi. "NO-How Coaching" was
probably the most inspirational book I have read in a long time. It has so much
more than just his way of coaching. It is more about how to apply the beliefs
into the real world. He seems like he is an amazing man. It is the kind of
leadership we need. I like how he has bucked the system for so long. In the book
he says, "you don't have to do it like we did it. I am just telling you
how we did it." Because of his book, I have started taking the
unnecessary things out of my life. This book came out in 2001. It was
written by Jim Collison.If you want to read a self help book that is
different than the others, I recommend this one!

gchrisrock springs, wy

Nov. 26, 2012 8:00 a.m.

I haven't talked to any BYU fan who is bitter about Te'o's going
to Notre Dame. He closed the conversation for most of us when he said his
selection was in answer to prayer. I don't think it had anything to
do(usually doesn't) with BCS bowl games or national championships. If he
had chosen BYU and played like he has at Notre Dame (remember, Notre Dame was
one missed BYU receiver away from a BYU win) he would be an NFL draft pick
anyway. Manti's prayers were answered in ways that most people will never
know by choosing Notre Dame. I hope he wins the Heisman, avoids serious injury,
has a Pro-bowl career in the NFL, marries a Mormon girl and raises a son who
will play for BYU!

The Dixie KidSaint George, UT

Nov. 26, 2012 6:17 a.m.

Please don't vote for Te'o for Heisman. The only reason the guy is
mentioned is because he is given so much exposure by ESPN and other outlets. He
is the Tebow of college football.

AntelopeValleyUtePalmdale, CA

Nov. 25, 2012 8:55 p.m.

I know Manti Te'o was sought after by a lot of big time schools across the
country, including BYU. He chose Notre Dame for several reasons, and in the
process, disappointing some BYU faithful who felt he should have gone to BYU
because he is Mormon and a very good football player. It wasn't to be. I
believe he has benefited greatly from his experience at Notre Dame, showing his
talent and skills as a football player, and at the same time, representing his
Mormon faith under the bright lights. While many BYU fans may not have liked
the road he chose, he chose it for a reason. He did more for the Mormon church
and himself as a person, than many BYU fans or Mormons will give him credit for.
Some may see that now, but for years ago, not. Perhaps he wanted the exposure
at a big time school and a chance at playing in a BCS bowl game, or even a
national championship game (lets be real and honest, slim chances of getting
there with BYU during his collegiate career). He definitely has the talent,
skills, and ability to play in the NFL.