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Friday, February 26, 2016

Delph and the gofundme - possible gaslighting.

THU 7:49AM

Delphine Brody
Delphine
Dear friends, Julia and Green Bean's situation is dire. They are stranded in their vehicle in California's San Joaquin Valley without food, water or gasoline. Their lives literally depend on our support right now. Please give to their survival fund. Please share with friends and family so we can raise the needed $150 as quickly as possible!
Click here to support Julia's Survival Fund by Delphine Brody
Julia Clark urgently needs our support to survive and to continue doing her important work. A multi-issue social justice activist and founder of the Julia Clark Organization, for 22 years she has spoken out, acted and assisted others in addressing government and corporate corruption, promoting an...
gofundme.com
Shelley Koonse
Shelley
I'll see if I can do something when I reach a computer.
Frank L. Topping left the group.
Delphine Brody added Joy Halstead and 4 others.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Thank you Shelley! heart emoticon
Delphine Brody added Claire White.
Delphine Brody added Temple Kirk and 3 others.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Ok sent $50
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Woohoo! Thank you so much!!
Just spoke with Julia. She and Greenbean now have food in their bellies and gas in their tank! Great big thanks to Sarah and Tricia for your gifts!!!
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Yea! So glad to hear this!
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Oops, sorry, didn't mean to send that sticker, lol.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Meant to send this one. THANK YOU! heart emoticon
We still have $95 to raise. Please give what you can to ensure safe travels for Julia and Greenbean.
Thank you Dawn! heart emoticon
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Thanks Delphine!
THU 11:15AM

Julia
Thank you all very much for being here.
This was very serious and seeing so many stand vigil truly moves me to tears.
Sarah, Dawn, and Patrica your fiscal support not only affected me, but also shown to others that care and concern can and does counteract very real world dangers of activism.
There was very important questions asked in another chat. I feel it is important to share my answers here.
Julia
What is your goal with this strike?
To bring attention to my betroths, my engagements, my work, my activism and the deserving support required. And the direct effects of jTRIG actions as discribe from the Snowden Revelations.
“GCHQ describes the purpose of JTRIG in starkly clear terms: “using online techniques to make something happen in the real or cyber world,” including “information ops (influence or disruption).””
I had ground support help, until very wise and tough guys became frightened by “men-in-black”
Julia
Who is supposed to take action from this strike?
Again Everyone. Whether, you understand it or not each and everyone of you are affected by jTRIGs. Each and everyone of your activisms are important. My life was put in peril by cowing. To me it ws not even significant cowing. However, very wise and tough guys and their good follows became frightened at what had become common every day occurrences to me.
Julia
Who is supposed to take action from this strike?
Every individual that was invited to this tread.
Seeing as death by dehydration takes about 10 days, do you expect this goal to be reached by then?
Yes, “the” goal would have been reached. This goal was not set by me but by jTRIG actions “to make something happen in the real... world”
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
What do you mean by "my betroths,"?
Julia
Do you have a localized support system to help you through this 10 day process towards death?
No, I was dying on my own and alone, the only people with me was my cyber support.
Have you publicized this beyond this meme?
Had I died or became to weak to communicate, my mailing list would have gotten my coordinates. The meme was an after thought and the least of the events.
Julia
eeing as a water strike is a much shorter process than a food strike, there needs to be a lot of planning and outreach done before you start.
This I agree with. I did learn that I am very good at handling the stress of dehydration. There was absolutely effects. As Delph can attest to. I will hold this in my tool box. And I will encourage others to consider this as a tool that is more effective than a hunger strike.
Julia
otherwise you die for no reason.
The reason in this strike was to show jTRIG agents what really happens, the true effects. That real people with real lives can die. In that aspect, if I had died, I would have been successful. You may not understand testament to in individual to change them. However, I have repeatedly shown that such testament has profound effects.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
"this 10 day process towards death"

Are you saying that after you got the money you still are contemplating death?
Julia
otherwise you die for no reason.
The reason in this strike was to show jTRIG agents what really happens, the true effects. That real people with real lives can die. In that aspect, if I had died, I would have been successful. You may not understand testament to in individual to change them. However, I have repeatedly shown that such testament has profound effects.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So you will continue with the Water Strike, after all?
Julia
ulia, I have been worrying about you, Delphine contacted me to find out if I knew why you were doing this, she lost her mother recently and is finding this particularly difficult.

Sally, you absolutely should be worried. Though, I had means to be able to lessen the symptoms of dehydration. I went 3 days without water. I had gone 2 weeks without significant food. This was a very serious matter. Dalphine should have found this “ particularly difficult.” It was shocking and scary.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
HONESTLY, I HOPE THAT I AM WRONG, BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY INCONSISTENCIES IN THIS STORY!
Julia
Yes, I would consider a water strike, on my terms, Sirgei. This one was not of my choosing.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Julia - all I can say is that you are very brave and determined.
Julia
Thank you, Sarah.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
I greatly admire that and count you as a comrade
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Ok, so the efforts to help Julia were futile, then, is that what you mean?
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
My only regret is that if we lose you we lose one of those with the most heart and passion of all
Julia
Sarah, even though it was a scary and harrowing experience, What I expeienced was beautiful.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So what would you accomplish?
Julia?
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
That in my estimation is a very rare gift in this world - and one that those of us who are left behind can ill afford to lose
I honor and respect your conscience Julia
Your fierceness of heart is a rare and precious gift
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Sarah, how well do you know Julia?
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
I know heart my friend
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Have you met in person?
Ali Sina Moravej left the group.
Julia
Sarah, I sent you the stichomancy cleansing I did after the experience
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Sarah?
Julia
You are welcome to share it selectively.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Sarah, have you met Julia in person?
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
I only ask that you consider that - if you leave us Julia, you may be leaving those of us behind without a weapon that this world is in desperate need of - and which quite possibly no one can provide but you
Thank you so much Julia - I am honored
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Sarah, have you met Julia in person?
"Seen by Sarah"
yet no answer from "Sarah"
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Am not familiar with the cleansing you mention but welcome the energy and kindness you have sent my way
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Julia, have you met Sarah in person?
Julia is "Sarah" another of your accounts?
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Sirgei please - I can tell you care deeply - but this is not the reality you live in so please let Julia and me converse
Julia
The last few hours before water, I was getting weak, and having chills. My body temp had quit regulating.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Sure, you can converse, I just worry about the inconsistencies of this story that may be affecting the honest helpers in this thread.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
If electrons can affect each other across the planet then so can human beings who travel similar mental wavelengths
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
A simple question Sarah, have you met Julia in person?

A simple "yes" or "no" will suffice...
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Wow Julia - sounds like a deep and powerful experience.
Julia
I have been in hospice and survived. Though it was unplanned, it was not a uncomforting. I knew it well.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
I have been close to death myself at times.
A part of me was frightened
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
JULIA, PLEASE TELL US IN THIS THREAD:
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Another part felt relieved to find myself that brave
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
HAVE YOU MET SARAH IN PERSON?
Julia
yes, I agree. "If electrons can affect each other across the planet then so can human beings who travel similar mental wavelengths" Thank you for being there with me. There WERE people with me, even though physically, I was alone.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Wow
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
NOTICE HOW "SARAH" AND JULIA ARE WORKING IN TANDEM...
Wow, what/
?
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Sergei please stop shouting at us. I know you may find this frightening
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Frightening?
Is being duped frightening to you?
Julia
I appologize about Sirgei.
He has been disruptive from the beginning.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
But for some of us there is nothing more frightening than the possibility that we might lose ourselves or betray the nature of who we deeply experience ourselves to be
He cares deeply -
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
YEP, I been disrupting all the INCONSISTENCIES by Julia...
Julia
If I ever chose this as a protest, God willing, I will have a hand to hold in the physical level.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Julia claims to be in a Water Strike, yet she would not disclose her location to the PM thread that she made "for security reasons"
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
At least that is how you come across to me sirgei.
Julia
I think he thinks everyone has vowed to me.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
I don't mean to come across as flippant or as taking life lightly - I most certainly don't
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Julia claims that it is insecure to reveal her location, but she does not find insecure to stop drinking water.
THAT IS AN INCONSISTENCY
NOT SOMEONE THAT REALLY WANTS HELP
Julia
I am real comfortable with deaths door, Sirgei. I made peace long ago.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
SARAH, HAVE YOU MET JULIA IN PERSON?
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Sirgei please - understand that this is not logical or rational in the way you have come to know those terms.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
"I am real comfortable with deaths door, Sirgei. I made peace long ago."
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
There is a different logic at work - a logic of deep principle and matters of heart.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
THAT IS AN INCONSISTENCY
Julia
If I ever got locked up, I would use it, more than likely, because it could be done in secret so easily.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
At least that's how it appears to me - but only Julia can confirm this..
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Julia "made peace" with death, but is very "insecure" for her to reveal her location!
INCONSISTENCY
Julia
Right, right, Sarah. When they stary scaring wise guys, you realize that this is not OK.
Larry Drain left the group.
Julia
start*
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Sirgei if someone were talking to me in the way you are right now I would not let them in either if I were in Julia's shoes
Yes Julia
I haven't met the wise guys yet - or it may be that I have - that it is just a different language you are using
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So Sarah, have you met Julia in person?
Julia
Sirgei. you have my peace and prayers. I am sorry if bringing you to confront death, frightened you. I am OK with it.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So can you pray to tell me the truth and tell me where did you met Sara in person, Julia?
Julia
This is for you et al Sirgei. I heart emoticon you . Hugs if you want them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgIqecROs5M&ab_channel=RedBullRecords
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Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Can you please stick with the simpler question?
Where did you met Sarah?
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Julia - But I would like to know that I want to be with you in spirit wherever you are to take on whatever or whoever it is that you need to face down right now
I'll look at the video now Julia
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Notice how both Sarah and Julia avoid the question.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
I know Delphine well Sirgei - I trust her judgment - if she asked me to be here, I believe it was with Julia's blessing
Julia
May the Angels brush our paths. And the best if Jinn be our friend, Sarah. ~`~ Amen
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
All I want is to offer my heart and my spirit in the best way I know how to meet whatever the need is that is presenting in this moment
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Notice how Sarah and Julia, only want to talk to each other, but ignore others in this group, yet they would not have their own PM conversation

INCONSISTENCY!
Julia
not others, Sirgei. I am ignring you.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Yes, let me go and try to meet Jinn now and see if I can make a new friend
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Sarah, how come you will not have a truly private PM conversation with Julia, yet you are here ignoring others?
Julia
Indeed, Sounds like a great idea.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
My phone is losing power so I may drop off for an hour or so but will be back as soon as I'm able to assist you in whatever way I can Julia
Happy to do that Julia - I am Sarah Knutson on FB
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
But of course Julia, you need to ignore when i question
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Just a sec - will find the link
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
YOUR INCOSISTENCIES
*INCONSISTENCIES
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
It's FB under skknut or skknut1@gmail.com
My profile pic is red & white 3 words : stop shock now
Julia
I sent a friend request.
I am the black start.
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Great !
Julia
Here Sirgie. https://vimeo.com/3670827
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Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Accepted!
Ben Hudson left the group.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Julia you are in a "Water Strike" to the "death" yet you have time to send a "Friend" request?
Sarah, you are having a private conversation with Julia, yet you will not PM Julia privately?
INCONSISTENCY
Julia
Awesome!
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Listening now
To sail
Extremely powerful
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
I HONESTLY HOPING TO BE WRONG...
... BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY INCONSISTENCIES IN THIS STORY!
Sirgei Agalzoff added P.m. Beers.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
HI P.M. have you ever heard of Julia or Sarah?
P.m. Beers
P.m.
From where?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Delphine, what can you tell me of Sarah?
https://www.facebook.com/Oolith
Julia Clark
P.m. Beers
P.m.
What is this group?
Julia
This is the Sirgei panic attack group.... sighhhhh
Orginally, though it was about my water strike. https://www.gofundme.com/t5r48ew4
Click here to support Julia's Survival Fund by Delphine Brody
Julia Clark urgently needs our support to survive and to continue doing her important work. A multi-issue social justice activist and founder of the Julia Clark Organization, for 22 years she has spoken out, acted and assisted others in addressing government and corporate corruption, promoting an...
gofundme.com
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Julia claims to be in a "Water Strike", because she is broke, so she says. She claims that she will go all the way to the death, but she claims that it is very insecure to tell us her location
P.m. Beers
P.m.
Sirgei is the most chill person I know
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10102607563678611&set=a.10100139445252721.2422712.33023298&type=3&theater
No water. No life. Water strike. Join us.
Julia Clark
Julia
Well, Sirgei is not very chill at the memment.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
So she will not accept personal help
except money of course.
Julia
It started when he ws like "How many have vowed to you, Julia?" and has went down hill from there.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
I met Julia at NatGat3 in Sacramento, in 2014,
P.m. Beers
P.m.
Well, you are not required to be in a group with Sirgei
Julia
That is doubtful, Sirgei.
Very few met me there.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Julia came in a car, that I called the "Narc" car
P.m. Beers
P.m.
How can you tell he's not chill? He sounds chill to me
Joy Halstead left the group.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
She look at our efforts to have a successful NatGat3, yet she left without helping us because the NatGat3 "was a sham"
Julia
He has been ranting for hours, Besides, someone else said that his behavior is not OK.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Who else said that?
Julia?
I think is time to invite Anonymous into this group
Julia
And had he not ranted about who has vowed to me, I might think something more than jealous
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
and others that know about CointelPro
Julia
He thinks everyone has vowed to me, but him...
P.m. Beers
P.m.
Ok so what is the point of this group? Why not leave this group?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Julia started with a "Water Strike" in another group
then this group was created to help Julia financially
, but there are TOO MANY INCONSISTENCIES
as I said
I HOPE I AM WRONG
Julia
What is your goal with this strike?
To bring attention to my betroths, my engagements, my work, my activism and the deserving support required. And the direct effects of jTRIG actions as discribe from the Snowden Revelations.
“GCHQ describes the purpose of JTRIG in starkly clear terms: “using online techniques to make something happen in the real or cyber world,” including “information ops (influence or disruption).””
I had ground support help, until very wise and tough guys became frightened by “men-in-black”

Who is supposed to take action from this strike?
Again Everyone. Whether, you understand it or not each and everyone of you are affected by jTRIGs. Each and everyone of your activisms are important. My life was put in peril by cowing. To me it ws not even significant cowing. However, very wise and tough guys and their good follows became frightened at what had become common every day occurrences to me.

Who is supposed to take action from this strike?
Every individual that was invited to this tread.

Seeing as death by dehydration takes about 10 days, do you expect this goal to be reached by then?
Yes, “the” goal would have been reached. This goal was not set by me but by jTRIG actions “to make something happen in the real... world”

Do you have a localized support system to help you through this 10 day process towards death?
No, I was dying on my own and alone, the only people with me was my cyber support.

Have you publicized this beyond this meme?
Had I died or became to weak to communicate, my mailing list would have gotten my coordinates. The meme was an after thought and the least of the events.

Seeing as a water strike is a much shorter process than a food strike, there needs to be a lot of planning and outreach done before you start.
This I agree with. I did learn that I am very good at handling the stress of dehydration. There was absolutely effects. As Delph can attest to. I will hold this in my tool box. And I will encourage others to consider this as a tool that is more effective than a hunger strike.

otherwise you die for no reason.
The reason in this strike was to show jTRIG agents what really happens, the true effects. That real people with real lives can die. In that aspect, if I had died, I would have been successful. You may not understand testament to in individual to change them. However, I have repeatedly shown that such testament has profound effects.

You added these people to this thread for a reason, a
Yes, it was a mixture of people. I am not usually this personal, nor this public.

I don't think it was to argue with them.
It was not.

I ask that you please take some time to answer the questions I posed.
I hope I have answered your questions.

It will help in all further communications about this AND it will help you in articulating your intent and the reasoning.
Thank you, for your personal testament. Your words have and did move me. And also was shown by grace in the stichomancy cleansing afterwards.

Sally Gellert
Sally
Julia, I have been worrying about you, Delphine contacted me to find out if I knew why you were doing this, she lost her mother recently and is finding this particularly difficult.

Sally, you absolutely should be worried. Though, I had means to be able to lessen the symptoms of dehydration. I went 3 days without water. I had gone 2 weeks without significant food. This was a very serious matter. Dalphine should have found this “ particularly difficult.” It was shocking and scary.

Alex Braun
Alex
WED 5:54PM

If you can't address the concerns and the valid questions people have asked, I wonder about the true intent of this.
Alex, I absolutely did see your words and concerns. And heard you. Though sometimes in a crowd, and yes, 12+ is a crowd, you get downed out. In this case drowned out by Sirgei. Who was a very jealous and full of envy at a time that was unacceptable for such. Notice when he got my location, we never heard from him again, and “the family” never showed.
It was you good people from this crowd that stepped forward to counteract what the jTRIG agents had cause to transpire.

There is a difference between wanting people's support and wanting attention.
Just as a hunger strike is about drawing attention. This was what this was about. Screaming when being attacked is not shameful.

Thank you all very much.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
but I believe we are being duped
Let's blow the cover on this one!
P.m. Beers
P.m.
This seems manipulative as fuck. Go get food stamps.
Go to a food pantry. Don't manipulate people.
Julia
A water strike should be in the tool box of every activist.
I am not.
P.m. Beers
P.m.
To manipulate your supporters? No!
Julia
You are not on my supporter list, Pm
P.m. Beers
P.m.
If I kill myself it's your fault? No.
Julia
Neither is sirgie for that matter
It is the same as a hunger strike
P.m. Beers
P.m.
How do you know I wouldn't support you if I didn't feel manipulated?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
She calls us betroth

http://thefreedictionary.com/betroth
betroth
Definition, Synonyms, Translations of betroth by The Free Dictionary
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Julia
I said you are not on my supporter list.
That is not debateable. That is a fact of history
not you sirgie
P.m. Beers
P.m.
Well I'm going to leave now. You are manipulative.
Julia
Ok
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Thanks P.M. I was shy to use the word "manipulated"
Julia
Goodbye
It was nice speaking with you.
You are not shy Sirgo
Do not lie. It is wicker
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
One time Julia insisted that I made an oath to her
Julia
and wrong
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
AN OATH
I told her repeatedly that
I DO NOT TAKE OATHS
but she kept pressing
Julia
Deception and petty disputes are driven by greed and envy.
Your imagination runs wild. sirgo
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
NatGat3 may be criticized, but it was the best that people put together after many man hours, probably in the hundreds
Julia look at us with disdain and she left without helping us
Julia
It was not distain
It was just plain ole' unemtional fact.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
We were cooking to feed people, but she did even peeled one potato for the attendees
Julia
Why are you so emtional Sirgo?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Then she call NatGat3 "a sham"
Now she claims to be in a "Water Strike"
Julia
I am sorry you got duped by that event sirgo, you were not the only one
get your facts straight sirgo
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
See what I mean, do you see any seriousness by someone that claims to be in a "Water Strike"?
INCONSISTENCY
Jennefer Jane
Jennefer
Is this a fundraiser for Julia Clark?
Julia
sirgo you are about 10 hours behind the events
if not longer
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Supposedly, but I have my reservations about the honesty of Julia Clark
Jennefer do you know Julia personally?
Jennefer?
Jennefer Jane
Jennefer
No, but I do not support Julia since she is a cop lover and tried to DOX me. We kicked her off of NatGat admin for threatening people.
P.m. Beers left the group.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Ah, she claimed to leave on her own
You removed Sirgei Agalzoff from the group.
You removed William Spirit from the group.
Lauren Tenney left the group.
A contact added Sirgei Agalzoff and 2 others.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
I Julia still here?
Jennefer Jane
Jennefer
Yes, she is.

Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
I just removed Julia, I will put her back in a few minutes
I am stitching some conversations in the meantime...
Julia Clark removed William Spirit from the conversation. at 2:12
That is fishy...
Did William Spirit know something about NatGat3, that Julia did not wanted us to know?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
If anyone is wondering there is a duplicate thread where Julia is asking for money

https://www.facebook.com/messages/conversation-527295240764624
I wonder how long before Julia removes me from this thread
After i brought her in this thread
Julia
Sirgei you are commandeering this chat, that is about my personal event
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
WHY JULIA WOULD NOT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS
Julia
you are an abusive.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Personal event.
This is a GROUP CHAT
We all are in this group
Julia
you are being backstabbing and gossipy.
This what I went through! Not SEREI
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
We are not your betroths!
Julia
This was about ME
Not Sirgei
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
WE WILL NOT SWEAR AN OATH TO YOU JULIA!
Julia
Now add my back to MY OWN original chat.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Why did you try to DOX people?
Julia
You are being abusive.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Why did you removed William Spirit from this thread?
Who is being manipulative?
Julia
This is ABOUT me, not about you Sirgei.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
JULIA WHY DID YOU GET KICKED OUT OF NATGAT3
?
EXACTLY, THAT IS WHY I AM ASKING
YOU
Julia
You want to hurt people. Then come hurt me in person
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
QUESTIONS
JULIA
Julia
Stab me in the back in person
you want to beat up a woman
Come do it.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
WHY DID YOU REMOVED WILLIAM SPIRIT FROM THIS THREAD?
Julia
It is better you beat up me than whoever you were beating up before me
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
WHY DID YOU REMOVED WILLIAM SPIRIT FROM THIS THREAD?
Sean Wiggs
Sean
Why the fuck am I in this group?
Julia
Add me back to the chat I had made.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
NOPE
YOU KICKED ME OUT OF THIS ONE
Hi Sean, we appear to have a Narc among us
https://www.facebook.com/Oolith
Julia Clark
Sean Wiggs
Sean
Great, just PM me some details.
She's banned from the International group for being unstable. *shrug*
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
That is what I thought
Sean Wiggs
Sean
Then I'm way happier to just exit here. If someone wants to PM me some details, great----but I don't have time for a group chat shit flinging fuckup fest
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
She just got some money out of some innocent people that really meant well
Julia
TUE 11:23AM

Julia
Dear Friends,
I have selected you to share behind scenes because you are here now.
I have done all I can.
For two weeks I have been eating dog food.
I have no water left.
And have not had a shower in 3 weeks.
I am down to fumes in gas.
I have not had propane in 2 weeks.
Mohamad Rahmoun left the group.
Julia
That is what is happening behind scenes.
I have done all I could.
If you have joined my profile for entertainment.
Here is the entertainment.
Here is the truth.
It will be 7 days before I have enough money even for water. Water is not free.
In three days I and greenbean will be dead with out water.
I watched Ethan raise $1000 toward bail this week with help from his friends.
I have politely and quietly asked near every one of you for help
I have tolerated taunting of me from my g+ account. I have endured the loss that anyone anywhere cares for me.
This is the facts as I see them
And through these weeks of eating dog food, of no heat, and dwindling supplies, ...
TUE 11:36AM

Never once did I show that hardship in my work. on my page, across my networks.
I have woke up at dawn every moring, looking for any kind of scrap of work.
I have put in over 100 bids on upwork
answered 100's of craiglist ads.
It is not that I have not tried.
Delphine Brody
Delphine
Julia
you are not very serious. The prayers of all that give me faith shown farther than your tomfoolery, Sirgei.
Seen by Eric Thomas at 1:13pm
Eric Thomas left the group.
Alex Braun left the group.
Sirgei Agalzoff added P.m. Beers.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Hi P.M. this is the original PM group
Seen by Jay D Alexander at 1:59pm
P.m. Beers left the group.
Julia
I have work to do, sirgei.
Sirgei Agalzoff removed you from the group.
Julia
If you do not think My work is serious or worth your support Sirgei.... LEAVE
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Well Julia, if you really want some help why you will not give us your location so we can send you some help
I can meet you there tomorrow
Julia
No one is forcing you to support me ....
No one is force you to be here
No one is forcing you to show any once of consideration
you are doing this out of pure hate.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
NOPE, I am here because my friends are most likely being duped by you Julia
Julia
Puire spite.
I do not see you beating up on someone bigger than you
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
My friends that I meet in person and been working hard to make this world a better place.
Julia
You are picking on me because you think I am a frail woman.
That I will not call you out on picking on me.
That I will not stand up and take your blows.
You are on a chat created to support me. and you are beating me up
More so you are attempting a beat down
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
You are not frail you are going through a "Water Strike"
Julia
You are being abusive.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
INCOSISTENCY
Julia
No one is forcing you to be here.
No one.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
INCONSISTENCY!
People in here are being abused by you
Julia
you have chosen to beat up a woman because you think I am weak and vulnerable and not able to defend myself because of my conservitive ways
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
P.M. Beers, smelled "manipulation" by you within a few minutes.
So I am beating a woman, yet you are in a

WATER STRIKE!
INCONSISTENCY!
Delphine, Julia tried to DOX one of our own at NatGat3
She did not quit NatGat3 she got kicked out as you can read in the thread above
JULIA KICKED ME OUT OF THIS THREAD
She also kicked out William Spirit and he is been quiet in this thread
Does he know something?
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Hi Julia - Sarah here - happy to PM with you 1:1 whenever it works for you. Don't know a lot of the folks here but would like to know more about what you have been up against and the journey you've been on in trying to face down these challenges
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Well Sarah here some words in this thread:

"No, but I do not support Julia since she is a cop lover and tried to DOX me. We kicked her off of NatGat admin for threatening people."
Julia
Quit beating up on me Sirgei.
Quit beating up on me in a group that was supposed to show support for me
Steven Robinson
Steven
What's going on here?
Julia
This group was created by a friend of my in support of me when I went on a water strike because I had gotten cowed and lost on on ground support team
Annette P. Stewart
Annette
Who has a problem with Julia.
Julia
I guy that claims to be from NatGat 3 where I had gotten interogated by the BLM
Sirgei.
He should be one of the few people left.
Annette P. Stewart
Annette
Trolls gonna troll
Julia
There was over 20 here.
Annette P. Stewart
Annette
BLM Oregon
Julia
He even kicked me out of my own support group that I had made.
The BLM I got interogated by was southern Californai
Annette P. Stewart
Annette
I see where you deleted some good for you.
Julia
Delphine had made this for me. and this https://www.gofundme.com/t5r48ew4
Click here to support Julia's Survival Fund by Delphine Brody
Julia Clark urgently needs our support to survive and to continue doing her important work. A multi-issue social justice activist and founder of the Julia Clark Organization, for 22 years she has spoken out, acted and assisted others in addressing government and corporate corruption, promoting an...
gofundme.com
I had a group that was just a few people and tole them what was happening down here in Bakerfeild.
You added Leigh Tatum.
Julia
You can read a brief on that in the comments of the go fund me.
Abdulrasaq Nasirudeen
Abdulrasaq
why do people behave like they have no feelings?
Julia
He really was beating me down
Steven Robinson
Steven
They are really sad people.
Julia
And still has not added me back to my orgainl chat
He is no where to be found now is he?
Did I remove him too?
Steven Robinson
Steven
I can't see what group you're talking about?
Seen by Leigh Tatum at 3:50pm
You added Sirgei Agalzoff.
Abdulrasaq Nasirudeen
Abdulrasaq
is he an admin of the group?
Julia
This is a chat.
I just added him back
Steven Robinson
Steven
Yes, I know. Is there a group that has deleted you?
Julia
I did not mean to remove him,
Steven Robinson
Steven
Julia
What I was asking for help for was this
Steven Robinson
Steven
OK.
Julia
I removed most of the strangers. Figured if he was gonna beat me up and I had to fight, I did not want to be on too big of a stage
Steven Robinson
Steven
It seems that you now have it under control, right?
Abdulrasaq Nasirudeen
Abdulrasaq
Julia
He still has not given me my orginal group chat back.
Steven Robinson
Steven
Do you mean "added" you back?
Julia
yes.
Abdulrasaq Nasirudeen
Abdulrasaq
how did he delete u? Only an admin can delete users 4rm a group chat.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Julia claims to be in a Water Strike, yet she will not allow assistance only money
Julia
I am not sure. I made the chat.
I gave you my cordinates.
None of those Rainbow people showed up
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
JULIA HAS TOO MANY INCONSISTENCIES
SHE REMOVED A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THIS THREAD
Julia
One of the people in the orginal chat came through
Sirgei Agalzoff added a participant.
Steven Robinson
Steven
What do you mean, Sergei?
Abdulrasaq Nasirudeen
Abdulrasaq
Sirgei Agalzoff what assistance you want to offer?
Steven Robinson
Steven
No need for all caps!
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Once she give us her location we can send someone nearby to help
Julia
I gave you my location
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
She made a PM group to ask for help, but she will not give her location to the PM group.
Abdulrasaq Nasirudeen
Abdulrasaq
she said she did!
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
If she does not trust the people in the PM group, then why did SHE ADDED THEM?
JULIA, CAN YOU COPY AND PASTE YOUR LOCATION TO THIS PM GROUP, PLEASE?
Julia
Sirgei, I have long been cared for, That was nearly 16 hours ago now.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Abdulrasaq, that is what she claims
Julia
Thank you, everyone. My prayers, and my honor for you. May God have mercy on all. Delphine made this Gofundme, which was and is vitally important. as a means to be able to assist me in thwarting the situation that I had unfortunately been placed in. I think Delphine very much and everyone that donates. My work though done mostly quietly and without much fanfare, it vital. Here are some questions and answers to what I experienced, and what this was about. - What is your goal with this strike? To bring attention to my betroths, my engagements, my work, my activism and the deserving support required. And the direct effects of jTRIG actions as described from the Snowden Revelations. “GCHQ describes the purpose of JTRIG in starkly clear terms: “using online techniques to make something happen in the real or cyber world,” including “information ops (influence or disruption).”” I had ground support help until very wise and tough guys became frightened by “men-in-black” -Who is supposed to take action from this strike? Again Everyone. Whether you understand it or not each and every one of you is affected by jTRIGs. Each and every one of your activisms is important. My life was put in peril by cowing. To me, it was not even significant cowing. However, very wise and tough guys and their good follows became frightened at what had become common everyday occurrences to me. - Who is supposed to take action from this strike? Every individual that was invited to this tread. - Seeing as death by dehydration takes about 10 days, do you expect this goal to be reached by then? Yes, “the” goal would have been reached. This goal was not set by me but by jTRIG actions “to make something happen in the real... world” - Do you have a localized support system to help you through this 10-day process towards death? No, I was dying on my own and alone, the only people with me was my cyber support. - Have you publicized this beyond this meme? Had I died or became too weak to communicate, my mailing list would have gotten my coordinates. The meme was an after thought and the least of the events. - Seeing as a water strike is a much shorter process than a food strike, there needs to be a lot of planning and outreach done before you start. This I agree with. I did learn that I am very good at handling the stress of dehydration. There was absolutely effects. As Delph can attest to. I will hold this in my tool box. And I will encourage others to consider this as a tool that is more effective than a hunger strike. - otherwise, you die for no reason. The reason in this strike was to show jTRIG agents what really happens, the true effects. That real people with real lives can die. In that aspect, if I had died, I would have been successful. You may not understand testament to in individual to change them. However, I have repeatedly shown that such testament has profound effects. - You added these people to this thread for a reason, a Yes, it was a mixture of people. I am not usually this personal, nor this public. - I don't think it was to argue with them. It was not. - I ask that you please take some time to answer the questions I posed. I hope I have answered your questions. - It will help in all further communications about this AND it will help you in articulating your intent and the reasoning. Thank you, for your personal testament. Your words have and did move me. And also was shown by grace in the stichomancy cleansing afterwards. -Julia, I have been worrying about you, Delphine contacted me to find out if I knew why you were doing this, she is finding this particularly difficult. -you absolutely should be worried. Though, I had means to be able to lessen the symptoms of dehydration. I went 3 days without water. I had gone 2 weeks without significant food. This was a very serious matter. Delphine should have found this “ particularly difficult.” It was shocking and scary. - If you can't address the concerns and the valid questions people have asked, I wonder about the true intent of this. Alex, I absolutely did see your words and concerns. And heard you. Though sometimes in a crowd, and yes, 12+ is a crowd, you get drowned out. In this case drowned out a guy, who was a very jealous and full of envy at a time that was unacceptable for such. Notice when he got my location, we never heard from him again, and “the family” never showed. It was you good people from this crowd that stepped forward to counteract what the jTRIG agents had caused to transpire. - There is a difference between wanting people's support and wanting attention. Just as a hunger strike is about drawing attention. This was what this was about. Screaming when being attacked is not shameful. Thank you all very much.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
... but she will not tell us her location
Abdulrasaq Nasirudeen
Abdulrasaq
what made u think that way?
Seen by Abdulrasaq Nasirudeen at 4:00pm
Julia
I gave you my location Sirgei, none of those rainbow people showed up. It was someone from the orginal chat that came through. It was not even the gofundme.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Who are you talking to, Abdulrasaq?
You have not given your location to this group and you have not given permission to reveal your location JULIA!
Steven Robinson
Steven
Sirgei, it seems that Julia has taken care of the situation. So why are you getting so insistent with her?
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Look up the thread, and you will not see either

her location, and
permission to share her location
Julia
Why do you want my location pubished to a group? Why is it not good enough in a PM? But the situation was gotten under control. hours ago.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
She is been talking about a Water Strike to the death, yet she does not mind getting money from the innocent

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10102607563678611&set=a.10100139445252721.2422712.33023298&type=3
No water. No life. Water strike. Join us.
Julia Clark
Steven Robinson
Steven
Julia
I do not need the rainbow people anymore for this situation.
I was not fond of the idea of rainbow people to begin with.
My dog does not like drugs.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
She removed this person after this comment at 2:11 in this thread

Jennefer do you know Julia personally?

Jennefer Jane

No, but I do not support Julia since she is a cop lover and tried to DOX me. We kicked her off of NatGat admin for threatening people.
Julia
No you did not.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
She removed others from this group that were involved with NatGat3
in Sacramento
Julia
This is what I got kicked out of that sharde for https://oolith.wordpress.com/2015/10/11/we-are-against-rape-and-the-rape-culture/
Steven Robinson
Steven
Sergei, Catfights in a Private message thread are silly and pathetic. IF you don't like what she' doing, LEAVE!!
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
This thread was about 24 at one point, but she removed many

3:34pm
Julia Clark removed William Spirit from the conversation.
3:34pm
Julia Clark removed Trina Allen from the conversation.
3:34pm
Julia Clark removed Todd Occupy Downing from the conversation.
3:34pm
Julia Clark removed Temple Kirk from the conversation.
3:34pm
Julia Clark removed Suzette Elwell-Scardino from the conversation.
3:34pm
Julia
Julia
I removed most
If you are going to beat me down where I have to fight it will be privater
or whatever the word is for less public
It is wrong to be beat down people
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
See what I mean, this thread was started to give fund rise for Julia, when I started to blow her cover, she removed her future victims.
Julia
And did you say "cop lover" as a derogatory statement?
No, I did not, I removed people because I was going to have to beat on you.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
I never said that, myself
at 2:11

"Jennefer Jane

No, but I do not support Julia since she is a cop lover and tried to DOX me. We kicked her off of NatGat admin for threatening people."
Julia
When there was a crowd you were much worse
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
in quotation marks ""
Julia
This is what I got removed from natgat for https://oolith.wordpress.com/2015/10/11/we-are-against-rape-and-the-rape-culture/
We Are Against Rape And The Rape Culture.
We are against rape and the rape culture. If you are in any way pro-rape, you can expect aggressive action against you. If this scares you more than the rape culture scares you, you are part…
oolith.wordpress.com
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
but of course, much worst means blowing your cover in front of JULIA'S victims...
Julia
There is no cover to blow
Go join my linkedin
Follwo me on twitter
Steven Robinson
Steven
Sergei, if she's not talking to YOU, so you should make like a tree and leave! I'm seeing what you are all about! I'm tired of your crap...
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
The supposedly "Water Strike" that P.M. Beer called "manipulative" within minutes of being in this thread.
"Water Strike" cover blown!
Julia
Sirgei, I have spent all day coddling youi when I could have been doing work, which includes activism work.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
Steven, you can mute this conversation
Steven Robinson
Steven
Julia, I know. I'm wondering why I shouldn't grin emoticon
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
I am weighting in Delphine, I trust her and I know her personally she is a hard working activist, she does not need to be taken advantage of her kindness
Steven Robinson left the group.
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
TAKEN ADVANTAGE BY EMOTIONAL PREDATORS!
Julia
Sirgei you are crazy
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
What do you call someone that is on a Water Strike, refuses water, but would take money away from hard working activists?
Julia
For the umpteenth time, a person in that original chat, which you have taken hostage, came forward to address the consequences of the jTRIG
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10102607563678611&set=a.10100139445252721.2422712.33023298&type=3
No water. No life. Water strike. Join us.
Julia Clark
Julia
Rainbow people
Sirgei. Fuck off
Sirgei Agalzoff
Sirgei
How many people have you demanded to take an OATH TO YOU JULIA?
Julia
I have better things to do than deal with a wacko rainbow brain dead druggie
Seen by Sirgei Agalzoff at 4:23pm
You removed Sirgei Agalzoff from the group.
Julia
Delphine you said you would add me back to my orginal group. I hope you honor your word.
Annette P. Stewart
Annette
Sad people good riddance
You removed Randy Hicks from the group.
Julia
It almost seems like a setup.
The gofundme will not see any usefulness for 4 days. Had it not been for someone in that group , I would still be on the waterstrike.
Thanks for your support annette.
You added Terry Shepard.
Julia
Hi Terry, this is where I was getting beat down
By a fellow named Sirgei.
A contact added Sirgei Agalzoff.
Julia
He just let himself back in
This group was supposedly made in support of me, my activism work, and a gofundme that was made.
He has hijacked the original group chat I made.
And will not add me, out of spite, I suppose.
There was a lot in here, I removed most. And since then he has quit acting out.
Terry Shepard
Terry
he is probably just a troll even the fact that he puts everything upside down shows he is just an antagonist
Annette P. Stewart
Annette
Seen by Annette P. Stewart at 4:40pm
You removed Jennefer Jane from the group.
You removed Sirgei Agalzoff from the group.
Julia
I suppose, I never thought of it that way. I looked at it like an upsidedown flag.
Seen by Melanie Watson at 4:44pm
You added Donald G Walker and Challice Finicum Finch.
Terry Shepard
Terry
maybe i have had trools come on my site and just try to get my goat and add no intelligent conversation to the issue
Julia

Julia
4:53PM

Maybe, I was being too compassionate. on the Moral compass.
Terry Shepard
Terry
good compass especially for those in todays world who have lost their bearings
Sarah Knutson
Sarah
Seen by Sarah Knutson at 4:58pmSeen by Terry Shepard at 4:59pmSeen by Donald G Walker at 4:59pm