although i believe Singer said he would only use the costumes if he felt it made sense, so its not a case of lets just give them a blue costume and head piece because its in the comics its a case of does it make sense they would wear this? and i think directors can be quite picky about stuff like that, not all but some

Then why didn't Singer use them when he directed the first 2 X-Men films? Even if it was his idea, I'm glad he was listening to the criticism of the leather costumes if that was the case. The leather costumes didn't detract from my enjoyment of the films. I just thought they were awful.

Because he was dealing with the post Batman & Robin situation where comic book films were being frowned upon.

Blade was In production before Batman & Robin was released.It was very much downplayed that Blade was based on comic book.

X-Men was first film based on comic book to be greenlighted post B&R.Some today forget what a big deal that was and assume X-Men was guranteed success.It wasn't

X-Men took inspiration from the matrix for it's outfits.Some also forget after first matrix many wanted comic book films to emulate it.

X-men had a 75 million dollor budget when most big budget films of 2000 like Mission Impossible II and the patriot had 100 Million budgets.

It's easy to bash first X-Men by saying it didn't have the ingredions of the Avengers.The avengers had a 220 Million budget vs 75 million budget of first X-Men.

Singer's attempt to make the world of mutants fit a semirealistic film world helped set stage for Dark Knight trilogy,Jon Favrau's work on first 2 Iron Man films,and even Zach Snyder's man of steel,remember all the talk of reimaging Superman for more realistic world.

The dark and serious tone of X-Men was much diferent than a lot of 1990's comic book films which had returned to campy.Batman returns and Blade being exceptions.

when he returned to series In 2009 to devolp First Class things has changed. Comic book films in particular those with colorful costumes were not viewed as they had been when he was trying to get first X-men made.

See, whenever people bash the Singer costumes, it gets on my nerves because most of the people who complain just blatantly ignore the context. They refuse to acknowledge both the time period when the first two movies came out and the state of comic book movies during that time, which wasn't good. They keep judging movies that came out in 2000 and 2003 by today's standards, which isn't fair. We didn't have Raimi's Spider Man trilogy, or the Marvel films, or the Hellboy films to show us that the audience will except that out there stuff, so judging that time by 2013 standards is simply not fair.

i believe singer said he wanted to do an old school style X-men film based on the older 60s comics, he had a hand in the designing for FC, aswell as casting and story

So he was partially responsible for ****ing up the continuity as well? That's hilarious.

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Because he was dealing with the post Batman & Robin situation where comic book films were being frowned upon.

Blade was In production before Batman & Robin was released.It was very much downplayed that Blade was based on comic book.

X-Men was first film based on comic book to be greenlighted post B&R.Some today forget what a big deal that was and assume X-Men was guranteed success.It wasn't

X-Men took inspiration from the matrix for it's outfits.Some also forget after first matrix many wanted comic book films to emulate it.

X-men had a 75 million dollor budget when most big budget films of 2000 like Mission Impossible II and the patriot had 100 Million budgets.

It's easy to bash first X-Men by saying it didn't have the ingredions of the Avengers.The avengers had a 220 Million budget vs 75 million budget of first X-Men.

Singer's attempt to make the world of mutants fit a semirealistic film world helped set stage for Dark Knight trilogy,Jon Favrau's work on first 2 Iron Man films,and even Zach Snyder's man of steel,remember all the talk of reimaging Superman for more realistic world.

The dark and serious tone of X-Men was much diferent than a lot of 1990's comic book films which had returned to campy.Batman returns and Blade being exceptions.

when he returned to series In 2009 to devolp First Class things has changed. Comic book films in particular those with colorful costumes were not viewed as they had been when he was trying to get first X-men made.

Nobody is bashing the first X-men. What the heck are you talking about? I just said I disliked the costumes because they were awful imo. Nobody here is bashing the X-Men films. I even said my disdain towards the costumes didn't detract from my overall enjoyment of the films. The costumes didn't make or break the films for me.

And just because Singer wanted the X-men films to fit the realistic world doesn't mean they couldn't have colourful costumes. It can work and First Class proved that. The leather costumes were just lazy and an easy way out imo.

So he was partially responsible for ****ing up the continuity as well? That's hilarious.

Nobody is bashing the first X-men. What the heck are you talking about? I just said I disliked the costumes because they were awful imo. Nobody here is bashing the X-Men films. I even said my disdain towards the costumes didn't detract from my overall enjoyment of the films. The costumes didn't make or break the films for me.

And just because Singer wanted the X-men films to fit the realistic world doesn't mean they couldn't have colourful costumes. It can work and First Class proved that. The leather costumes were just lazy and an easy way out imo.

well i have seen some critize first X-Men for not being like avengers or some more recent comic book films.SInce you say that wasn't intent then I apolagze for the assumination.

So he was partially responsible for ****ing up the continuity as well? That's hilarious.

Nobody is bashing the first X-men. What the heck are you talking about? I just said I disliked the costumes because they were awful imo. Nobody here is bashing the X-Men films. I even said my disdain towards the costumes didn't detract from my overall enjoyment of the films. The costumes didn't make or break the films for me.

And just because Singer wanted the X-men films to fit the realistic world doesn't mean they couldn't have colourful costumes. It can work and First Class proved that. The leather costumes were just lazy and an easy way out imo.

Again, they DIDN'T KNOW that they would work back then because the previous "bright and colorful" superhero movies DIDN'T work. Again, judging a movie made in 2000 by today's standards isn't fair because it was a different situation back then. It hurts your argument when you just ignore that fact. It wasn't lazy, it was pragmatic and it made sense AT THE TIME!

Again, they DIDN'T KNOW that they would work back then because the previous "bright and colorful" superhero movies DIDN'T work. Again, judging a movie made in 2000 by today's standards isn't fair because it was a different situation back then. It hurts your argument when you just ignore that fact. It wasn't lazy, it was pragmatic and it made sense AT THE TIME!

Fair enough. I still detest the costumes, even when I watched the films back then in theatres. The first Spiderman film came out 2 years later, funny how well that worked out.

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well i have seen some critize first X-Men for not being like avengers or some more recent comic book films.SInce you say that wasn't intent then I apolagze for the assumination.

It's cool. Look man, I didn't like the costumes. It's a fair criticism and I don't think I'm the only one here who dislikes the costumes. Yeah I got your point, it was at a time where CBMs were non-existent because of Batman & Robin, but I just couldn't get myself to like them at all.

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I still love the leather costumes.If anything, bright and colourful is 'safe' now.

I love that Singer's already revealed that he's got the crew back from X2!

Speaking of writing, I wanted to share some fun trivia from First Class that y'all may or may not have heard:

- Despite claims that Inception drove the crew to nix the Charles vs. Emma "Astral Battle," it was ultimately due to the film's budget limitations.

- At some point the film included a scene where the newly-blue Beast apologetically explains that the classically-inspired blue and yellow suits were inspired (in the film world) by Raven's natural blue form after realizing he had hurt her feelings the night before.

- The reason why Havok is in jail is never explained in the film, though it's easily assumed it had something to do with his power. And it did. He attempted to intervene when his foster sister was being tormented by a group of bullies and spontaneously manifested his power, turning the group into a pile of ash. Judging by his incredible guilt and lack of control seen throughout the movie, it's easy to assume he accidentally murdered his foster sister, too.

I love that Singer's already revealed that he's got the crew back from X2!

Speaking of writing, I wanted to share some fun trivia from First Class that y'all may or may not have heard:

- Despite claims that Inception drove the crew to nix the Charles vs. Emma "Astral Battle," it was ultimately due to the film's budget limitations.

- At some point the film included a scene where the newly-blue Beast apologetically explains that the classically-inspired blue and yellow suits were inspired (in the film world) by Raven's natural blue form after realizing he had hurt her feelings the night before.

- The reason why Havok is in jail is never explained in the film, though it's easily assumed it had something to do with his power. And it did. He attempted to intervene when his foster sister was being tormented by a group of bullies and spontaneously manifested his power, turning the group into a pile of ash. Judging by his incredible guilt and lack of control seen throughout the movie, it's easy to assume he accidentally murdered his foster sister, too.

'Hope you enjoyed these interesting tidbits!

I didn't know about the dropped origin of the suits. I'm glad they did away with that one.

I love that Singer's already revealed that he's got the crew back from X2!

Speaking of writing, I wanted to share some fun trivia from First Class that y'all may or may not have heard:

- Despite claims that Inception drove the crew to nix the Charles vs. Emma "Astral Battle," it was ultimately due to the film's budget limitations.

- At some point the film included a scene where the newly-blue Beast apologetically explains that the classically-inspired blue and yellow suits were inspired (in the film world) by Raven's natural blue form after realizing he had hurt her feelings the night before.

- The reason why Havok is in jail is never explained in the film, though it's easily assumed it had something to do with his power. And it did. He attempted to intervene when his foster sister was being tormented by a group of bullies and spontaneously manifested his power, turning the group into a pile of ash. Judging by his incredible guilt and lack of control seen throughout the movie, it's easy to assume he accidentally murdered his foster sister, too.