H 86 Cancer Cure (Thread 250866)

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JD Says:Fri, Aug 16 '13, 11:13 AM

I received the same. It was from HSI (Health Sciences Institute) in an ad for a "free" book titled Miracles From the Vault: Anthology of Underground Cures by Jenny Thompson. It was "free" with a news letter subscription. . .

The "infomercial" was vague about most of the "top seven" cures it supposedly detailed. H-86 was the first of them. It supposedly reduces (attacks) cancers but I cannot find any reference to it on the web other than questions.

I've found many people on the web asking about this and the others (. . nitric oxide, policosanol, lion's mane mushroom. . ) which are well known but no answers about the H-86. The closest thing I could find was a rabbit derived LHPP antibody but I think this is NOT the substance in question.

It isn't the drug from the HuffPost article, it is supposed to be some natural cure and it is a scam. It is also proof that the Washington Times is not a real newspaper, I wish I could get them to stop spamming me. But this is really low, giving a voice to these snake oil salesmen.

>>>It is also proof that the Washington Times is not a real newspaper<<< Silly as anything I've read lately. The Washington Times understands this is the internet. Apparently you don't. If newspapers' reputations rested upon the validity of everything that was advertised by them, they would all have gone out of business a century ago. Many ARE going out of business because they don't comprehend the shift to digital. If you don't like the ad scheme, opt out. But, it would serve you well not to make ridiculous assertions that have no logical connection. The Washington Times IS a very credible and necessary news source. Especially in the face of the liberal baloney organs. Anyone with any common sense and life experience knows they're pushing an agenda that is bent on directing the U.S. and the world down a proven path of destruction, as evidenced by history.

If you go to following link to research articles on the website for American Biosciences you will find an 18 page report on a substance known in Europe, where it was invented, as "avemar", and in the US as "ave"; americanbiosciences.com/research.html. At the top of the 1st page are 3 reports. The second report gives you an understanding on how avemar was developed with the work of 3 hungarian scientists using the work done by a German scientist who found that cancer cells use 10 to 50 times as much glucose as a regular cell. Many of the abstracts on the 18 pages allow you to see the full text of the research paper by clicking on "click here for full text".

The Washington Times understands this is the internet. Apparently you don't. If newspapers' reputations rested upon the validity of everything that was advertised by them, they would all have gone out of business a century ago.

So, on the internet it is ok for a legitimate newspaper to directly promote frauds--using their own name to do so? You are right, I am unfamiliar with these newfangled internet specific rules where a news outlet doesn't lose credibility for using its own name to promote a fraud. But, I guess if you want a news source that has a far right political slant, there aren't a lot of choice that don't try to prey on their customer's ignorance and gullibility. For some reason (probably a combo of the success of Fox News and the average age of their customer base), right leaning news outlets have decided to team up with snake oil salesmen and doomsday profiteers.

Careful, Brent B, your bias is showing. There are snake oil salesmen on Both sides, it's up to us as consumers to let the organizations we support know when someone on their site is making ridiculous claims. Then it's up to us, based on their response, to respond accordingly.

That the snake oil salesman are predominantly on one side doesn't mean I am bias. It is just the truth. You don't see the scam/fear/misinformation ads running back to back to back on liberal outlets, and liberal hosts don't personally endorse them. Not all conservative outlets do this obviously, there are plenty of reliable conservative outlets (I think the economist, for example, is great).

I don't want to shock you but The Huffington Post is one of the larger internet sources of information about H-86 so that kind of destroys your "right wing conspiracy" nonsense. Are this H-86 snake oil? Probably. Is it agenda driven? There is no evidence of this. What there is proof of is that you are riddled with left wing bias? That is obvious.

I don't want to shock you but The Huffington Post is one of the larger internet sources of information about H-86 so that kind of destroys your "right wing conspiracy" nonsense. Is H-86 snake oil? Probably. Is it agenda driven? There is no evidence of this. What there is proof of is that you are riddled with left wing bias? That is obvious.

Really? I googled and couldn't find that. I found some news articles about some other cancer drugs, but nothing selling this "all natural" scam book. Link it, maybe I am wrong. But legit articles about actual scientific studies are different than this snake oil.

Dear sirs, I would like to have the book MIRACLES FROM THE VAULT by mail... Could anyone of you tell me how to get it? As I have understood from these posts , there is not any definite source of a well -documented cure for cancer in the book... I sent a mail to HSI ,but they do not explain me anything about the texts ,so I am doubtful about the book's eficciency. I am a lawyer in a Neuropsychiatric Hospital in Bs As, Argentina but before that I was a Histotechnician and my mother had 2 types of cancer. ..Thank you very much.

Unfortunately there are not sample paragraphs so as to learn if that book is really interesting, or not. One has to acquire Membership, but I am in doubt for this reason, I do not believe in free medicine, but one has the right to choose, specially if one knows some Medicine and is also familiarly related to some types of cancer. ...

Brent, remember that the government and pharmaceutical companies are waging war against the alternative, natural health community, and generally refuse to sponsor any studies that would show benefits of natural supplements. In fact, they try to sponsor studies to discredit them whenever possible.

In a presentation made by this same Health Sciences Institute, it is clear that the code-name "H86" refers to a "neutraceutical" commonly called Avemar.

I have looked into it and there is indeed clinical research showing that it can be effective in reducing or at least helping to prevent the spread of many tumors, without known side effects. It has been approved for this use in Europe.

Whether it is a "miracle cure" remains to be seen. But it is, at least, real.

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