King George, Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, the Queen, Prince Philip, Princes Charles, Andrew and Edward, The Princess Royal obviously never cracked a smile before . . . . .

I don't think there was much INTIMATE human contact before Diana, Princess of Wales came on the scene. They smiled, but after Diana died they employed PR men around the Prince of Wales. I will give an example: a very human action of hugging and carrying a sick child, Diana did that, but the Princess Royal never did, and she is patron to a major children charity. The Queen recently drop something and a little girl gave it back to her. It was very touching and I wonder if the Queen in the past would be that close and that responsive to the little one.

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Princes William and Harry "show, very human qualities".

Yes, they hug the children at royal engagements just like their mother. There was a photo of Prince William recently doing that. Both Princes engage a crowd on engagements. Prince William sleeps with the homeless. I know the movie was fictional, but the main theme: BRF modernized after the Princess, I got that out of the movie.

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The Queen recently drop something and a little girl gave it back to her. It was very touching and I wonder if the Queen in the past would be that close and that responsive to the little one.

You obviously didn't see or read of the kids outside Crathie Parish Church and seen the interaction between the BRF and those that camp out in the cold just to greet them. The tradition predates the marriage of Charles and Diana, not to mention the film "The Queen" as does a large part of HM life which you so neglegently toss off as never having happened nor containing any empathy or sympathy.

The Queen was visiting hospitals as a child. It is offensive to write off her life as irrelevant before the advent of Diana. Similarly the Princess Royal carries out a heavy load of official engagements most of which tend not to be covered by the media. You do not know how she interacted with those children she met. Being spoken to and noticed may in fact be a lot nicer than being mugged by someone you have never met and have a hundred flashbulbs going off in your face!

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I remember seeing a picture of Queen Mary visiting a hospital, probably in the 20s. She stood at a sick childrens bed and gave this child a single flower and smiled slightly. It was so touching since it seemed spontaneous. I have to say that I prefer such spontaneous moments rather than Princes and Princesses hugging totally unknown, poor sick children because there's a bunch of cameras around them.

I guess there are different views of the Royal Family before Diana and after. So guys, we have to disagree to agree about things. But for the record, I do admire Queen Elizabeth II and all the hard work Prince Anne does.

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I love this film! Great casting and directing. The dialogue's exceptional too. I love the way this movie focused on the Queen. Her attitude, her feeling, etc. There's so many movies about Diana and the Queens of old, but this one really focuses on Elizabeth when Diana died. Part 2 is supposed to be in production, If it is I will definitely be wanting to see that one.

You've lost me. I thought "The Queen" was about the death of Diana and it's aftermath.

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFanWhat can they include though? 10 years worth of Daily Express headlines? The film went thus; Di dead. Queen miserable. Charles creepy. Blair hero. Di buried. People get over it. Queen happy. What more is there to say?

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It may be a sequel to "The Queen" but it's actually the third part of a trilogy concentrating on Tony Blair.
The films are The Deal (2003), The Queen (2006) and The Special Relationship, which according to Wikipedia is due to be shown on HBO in Canada and the US in two days time - May 29. This last film centres on the Tony Blair/Bill Clinton dynamic.

Just got done watching this movie again. It made me cry...mostly for Elizabeth and how hurt she must have been and how much she suffered. Even at her age I hope she was able to take it as just a learning experience on mass hysteria.
I don't understand why some people didn't like the portrayal of the QM? I thought she came off as a sweet old lady who cared about her daughter. I also didn't see Charles as weak.

As much as I like and respect Helen Mirren, I didn't think she deserved to win the Oscar for this role. She did a great job in it, however I saw nothing Oscar worthy of it. I do think she was worthy of a nomination however.

I disagree, I've only seen Helen in 2 movies but she truly became QEII in this movie. It made me see her as a woman as opposed to the elderly Queen of England.
Also is there still going to be a sequel about the death of her mother? I hope it also deals with the death of her sister.

Helen Mirren did a truly terrific job as HM and I think that her Oscar was well-earned.

I've actually just finished writing my major written assignment on this film and while thoroughly analysing films can really ruin films for you, I still like it a lot. My only problem, really, is that the DoE and the Queen Mum both have really suffered under the entertainment value of the film. They both come across as a little too snarky and ignorant for the mere purpose of a little laughter and that's just sad. The dialogue would be witty enough without that.

I love the Stag-scene (which, after doing a shot by shot analysis of it, I love even more now than I did before). I like to believe that she mirrors herself in the stag and see Diana in it as well. Diana was being hunted and in those four-five days, so was HM. There's also something very beautiful and sad in the fact that she breaks down in tears only when she's alone, where no one can see her. Ugh, I could go on about my love for that scene, but I wont

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