Messages - pinkytrc

Ok, so here's the story. I have a 3.71 gpa, (3.94 degree if that would possibly matter) and my LSAT scores are 146 last Sept.(oops, really just didn't study enough- or at all it seems- I already kicked myself in the ass for that one) and a 156 this Sept. Now, I was practicing low 160's. I haven't even touched an LSAT book since the test. I did, however, register for December because I wasn't sure if I wanted to retake to give myself a better chance at Case Western. Their 25% LSAT is a 157, so I am literally right below it (they take the highest, thank god!)...my gpa though is above their 75% which is a 3.57. So here's my standings:

ME Case3.71 3.57 (75%)156 157 (25%)- 161 (75%)

Now the twist...I just recently decided to go with CSU because they said I should get $ and it's a good school. So I decided not to retake the LSAT, although I did not cancel it yet. I thought aid at case would be completely out of the question. But today I received an email from my advisor at my very small private college with an ok reputation, not the best, that there is a 1/2 tuition (50k!)scholarship at case that a woman left that gives preference to my college grads. Now, I literally am probably the only person applying to Case this year. Many students are from out of state and it's so small that hardly no one applies to law school anyways. So basically, she tells me that if I'm admitted it should be mine.

So now the LSAT is in 2 weeks, I'm going to KY to see my family Thurs-Sun. so not studying then and I just don't know if I'll be ready to retake the LSAT. Now, even though they take the highest, if I score lower that will look bad. Even if I score the same it will look like I hit my glass ceiling. So what do I do? According to LSAT I have a 30-40% chance of admission to Case. Should I be happy with my score and just apply? Or retake the LSAT?

lol. I know. I've read posts from some pretty darn arrogant people on here! And that's not because I scored in the 68th percentile, just because they are spending their time telling people they are stupid- basically. It's crazy!

You will get in somewhere. And if you can, take a prep course and retake the LSAT. Don't let these crazy people on here tell you that you will never be an attorney unless you got to a t14 school. You have three options:

1. study and retake the lsat2. apply to the schools mentioned above, you do have a shot. People have gotten in with lower numbers. Or try part-time, the numbers are usualy not as high. If you really don't like the schools, do well in the school and transfer out.3. apply to a law school program where you do the summer start option. They let in people with lower numbers and make them take usually 1 summer class and then they are automatically admitted to the fall class upon completion. I know that in Ohio, Ohio Northern has one as well as CSU.

Best case scenario? You retake the LSAT and score better. It's possible- I took a class and went up 10 points.

Personally, i cant imagine why would anyone go to a T 3/4 school. You can probably make more money with your bachelors degree, especially if you consider the cost of attending law school. Hell, i think that if i dont get in a T14 i won't get a decent job.

I am not trying to be mean when I say this, but that is incredibly naive to think. Was it a joke??? If no one got a decent job from a t3 or t4 than we would have very, very few attorneys. And I just checked out Jones Day in Cleveland here. Seems that there are a lot of grads from CSU (t3) and even one from Cooley. I would consider Jones Day a pretty big firm!

PS- Most Judges and Politicians here are CSU grads too- not too shabby

I read somewhere on LSD a few weeks ago that some schools offer free admitted students visiting days? I think they just reimburse you up to a certain amount. Anyone ever heard of this or know any schools that do so?

I like your replies guys, very informative. Glad it has worked for most of you! I actually asked my undergrad for more money, I didnt hear anything for about a month or two, and then one day I received a letter that gave me $5500 more. The only thing I had to pay was paid for by stafford loans. I was afraid that this was a bad idea for law school, but I guess after your admitted they will at least consider it. My top choice actually sends you your scholarship info with your acceptances it says, and they told me that they will be going over apps soon! so here's to hoping!

I saw that too- but I think they mean DUI or hit and run or vehicular manslaughter type stuff. If you rear-ended Mr. Smith when you were 17 I don't think they will care. I also was in a little fender bender when I was 17. It was just a simple tiny ticket from Juvi court. Like $15 fine or something...no big. I wouldn't worry about it too much unless it was a bigger deal, especially since they threw it out of court, so it sounds like you weren't even convicted.

Good question, I wonder the same? But I would think maybe better to ask sooner and put yourself first in line (hopefully!) and give them time to pass it along to where it needs to go. Maybe then you'd have a better shot at the table scraps?!!

I'm of the opinion that if you have to ask how to do this, you probably won't have great results. Anything is possible with a little charm, but you can't force it.

Hmmm...didn't think it would hurt to see other people's experiences. It was just something I heard of on LSD that I hadn't thought of before. It couldn't hurt to see if maybe people had better results by asking over the phone than by mail. Isn't that what LSD is for? Advice, past experiences, and discussion?

Cleveland state has a super law library. Only been open a couple years I believe. It's like 3 floors with student group study rooms and soundproofed. They are also remodeling the school to match the beautiful library. Kind of makes me wonder if I will be listening to drills for 3 years, but it is supposed to be done in a couple months, so wont affect me in the fall! Plus since the university is so big it has a good health center with lap pools (I think they said olympic sized) and nice eating facilities and you even get discounts at the convocation center for concerts. It's downtown, so there will be traffic but everything is close. A lot to do. Though Ohio has crappy winters (go OSU!) the law building has it's own parking garage connected to the building. Should make it a lot more pleasant than trudging through the snow! Hmm...I think this post just made me super excited to attend!!!