Galloway Banned From USA

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Jez Waterman (not verified)

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 12:56

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Hardly surprising in view of the way George wiped the floor last time with the poorly informed Zionist senator who tried to witch-hunt him. Easier to ban him than have to rebutt his arguments I would have thought
Talking about banning, will ZF members be banned from Ahava demonstrations as "Jesus Killers" which is evidently how a member of the shop staff recently described a young jewish protester? Here is the link to the video http://azvsas.blogspot.com/

jose (not verified)

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 13:16

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Easier to ban him than have to rebutt his arguments I would have thought

No one can call that thinking...

Terrorist supporters are banned for good reasons. They don't have arguments, just hate speech. And hate-speech should not enjoy the same protection as free speech.

Here is what Galloway thinks of the Iranian dictatorship:

In the Daily Record, in June, Mr Galloway showed little sympathy for peaceful protestors in Iran disputing the fraudulent re-election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, even though they were met by a ferocious crackdown.

He wrote: “There are grounds for being surprised at the result of the Iranian election. Even grounds for being disappointed. But there are absolutely no grounds for the cats’ chorus of criticism and allegations now emanating from some quarters after the cookie crumbled the wrong way.”

Maybe Galloway will be also banned from Iran, once the ayatollahs regime will be overthrown.

Jez, so glad you suck up to a man who bowed before the mass murderer and torturer Saddam Hussein, a man who publicly says he wishes to "glorify" Hizbollah, an antisemitic terror organization committed to the genocide of the Jewish people.

Apparently it doesn't take much to wipe the floor with you.

Most Jews are Zionists - live with it.

Jez Waterman (not verified)

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 17:58

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Amber, don't get stressed, deep breathing usually helps.
Saddam was certainly no slouch when it comes to mass murder, but the genocide launched in Iraq and Afghanistan by Bush and Blair makes him look like a rank amateur.
We should all condemn racism and anti-semitism wherever we find it, including that perpetrated by the staff at the Ahava shop(see my earlier posting) please join me in boycotting them.

jose (not verified)

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 18:02

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We should all condemn racism and anti-semitism wherever we find it, including that perpetrated by the staff at the Ahava shop

Be careful, that is libel. Saying Ahava shop is antisemite is a grave accusation.

jose (not verified)

Fri, 12/17/2010 - 18:06

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By the way, did someone else note that telegramsam was banned and that, simultaneously jandrsimonson disappeared from the radar although he was not banned.

Maybe they were using the same IP address? Or maybe this was another Chanukah miracle!

Hi Amber. Abuse such as "moron" and "hypocritical cretin" is a poor substitute for reasoned argument. You can do better than that if you try hard.
I am 100% in agreement with you about the vicious persecution of the Kurds. I deplore all forms of racism including the anti-semitism of a member of the Ahava staff. Why do you doubt it? you can watch the video yourself at http://azvsas.blogspot.com/ . The younj Jew asks why he is being called a Jesus killer and the reply is "because you are a Jew" No scope for misunderstanding, this is a clear case of anti-semitism by a member of Ahava's staff. The fact that Ahava is Zionist shop makes no difference. Remember the 1930's if we do not fight anti-semitism wherever it raises it's ugly head, it will engulf us again. So come on Mattpryor, Jose, ZF, EDL EDL etcWill you demmonstrate against anti-semitism at Ahava - or is Zionist racism OK. Please respond

Waterman, I am not hurling abuse, I am merely stating a fact. You are a moron - and a hypocrite, for this reason: whilst you pretend to be all affronted by antisemitism, you are yourself engaging in an antisemitic boycott. YOU are the ones who are part of the resurgence of 1930's antisemitism. You defence of Galloway illustrates this. here is a man who actively supports Hizbollah, which is an antisemitic terror organization committed to the genocide of the Jews across the world. Hizbollah and Hamas both state this openly in their founding charters - doubtless you have read neither. Both organizations celebrate the deaths of Jewish civilians, killed soley because they are Jews. Nasrallah stated that it was good that the Jews gather in Israel, because this will save Hizbollah the trouble of going after them worldwide.

Galloway supports these groups. You support Galloway for supporting these groups, whilst simultaneously holding Israel to standards you don't apply elsewhere i.e. you hold Jews to a different standard to others. What does that say about you?

That is antisemitism.

And please spare me the crocodile tears about the Kurds - it is your friends (and Galloway's) in Syria, Iran and Turkey who are committing this genocide. You missed ou the Arab League's support for the gemnocide in Darfur.

Waterman, a nocely edited clip by the way, all 5 seconds of it - ensuring we don't know what abuse was hurled at the staff.

By the way, at this boycott garbage, the haters shout "from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" - which demonstrates that the boycotters actually are calling for the destruction of the Jewish state. This is not about so-called "occupations" - it is explicitly about destroying the Jewish state.

So, no substance from you either zair? Back to your cheerleading best - without a thought in your head.

What a farce - two rabid jew haters, zair and waterman, pretending to be outraged by antisemitism.

yes you two imbeciles, the Jews are in great danger from shop staff at Ahava - the delegitimization campaign against the Jewish state, supported by every anti-semitic turd around the world, is nothing to worry about.

millis, why are you siding with rabid israel haters? No word of criticism from you directed towards the idiot fawning over Galloway, or the Jew hater zair.

jose (not verified)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 02:49

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Jose, when it comes to pseudonyms, you are a fine one to speak.

Jose is not a pseudo but my name, and I use only one here. Any other stupidity?

jose (not verified)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 02:58

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The younj Jew asks why he is being called a Jesus killer

Really? Where did you hear that in the video? And the answer "because you're a Jew" is not even audible. I think you have a great imagination! And how can one know the "younj Jew" was a Jew? Because there is a specific Jewish look? Probably the vendor at Ahava is also Jewish, then? And she tells a Jew that "Jews killed Jesus"? Tell us, "Jez", who isn't a Jew, in this story?

You don't know what antisemitism is.

jose (not verified)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 03:03

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It appears that the seller at the shop can get away with anti-Semitism if it fits the political leanings of some.

And you pretend to be a journalist? Can you quote the shop vendor, please?
What if I meet you in the street, you ask me "What time is it?" and I answer (and someone takes a video of it) "Why do you say I'm a Jesus killer?" Should I make the headline with that?

jose (not verified)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 03:04

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Everything jez has said ;)

It's the final proof Jez! You are the antisemite, here. Where were you when Jesus was killed? Do you have an alibi?

Jose, you can't kid a kidder, mate. Everyone knows who you are.
Amber, who exactly are you to determine who should criticise whom?

jose (not verified)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 10:06

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Jose, you can't kid a kidder, mate.

You must be kidding!

Everyone knows who you are.

Really? That's very flattering! Can't say the same about you.

Jez Waterman (not verified)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 10:54

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Hi Amber, it's getting worse. In your posting at 22:29 you say
"a nocely edited clip by the way, all 5 seconds of it - ensuring we don't know what abuse was hurled at the staff."
Do you mean to imply that if the young Jew was offensive it is OK to subject him to anti-semitic baiting and call him a Jesus killer? How is this different fron the Nazi view that Jews created anti- semitism themselves by their opinions, customs etc?
Please be consistent. Anti-semitism is an outrage against humanity and we all have a duty to denounce it whenever we come across it. Readers are entitled to make a judgement about those who accuse others of anti-semitism, but refuse to speak out against it in this case.
Another small thing Amber, please don't reply with a further round of abuse. I do not take offence, but you will never persuade anyone that way and it reflects badly on you.

jose (not verified)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 11:05

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Please Jez, your reading comprehension is quickly reaching that of Millis. Amber said that we didn't hear if there was any offense. We don't even know if there was a young Jew or a Jew at all either. We can't either hear any audible answer from the shop vendor, so you are left with your beliefs that there was an offense.

If even a French-speaking person can understand what Amber writes, you should be able to do it. Unless you are comprehension-impaired, of course.

Why do the boycotters call for Israel to be destroyed waterman? Let's have something substantive from you.

And which countries do you are your fellow haters boycott?

Jez Waterman (not verified)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 16:44

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Amber, to answer your last posting first, I hope there is a free Israel for ever alongside a free Palestine, both countries on the 1967 borders. Unfortunately Zionist extremists, racist Israeli Rabbis and the settlers make that a diminishing prospect, so we will probably end up with a one state solution. Also, I have never been to a boycott at Ahava, though I have read about them.
As far as Ahava is concerned Amber, I'm afraid you are in denial. What is being said on the video very plain, and I have copied the exact words - (Male voice) "Why did you say I killed Jesus" (shop assistant) "because you're Jewish" - here is the link to the video again so others can check it for themselves http://azvsas.blogspot.com/

If you are really anxious to defend Jews you will protest. If you continue to bury your head in the sand readers will know that you prefer to protect the shaky reputation of a Zionist shop, rather that the rights of Jews to be free from hatred and abuse.
I will not be replying to any more postings on this thread, so you can be as unpleasant as you like without fear of a reply from me. However I invite others to judge you by what you write in your postings and what you do to defend Jews from anti-semitic attacks from shop assistants

jose (not verified)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 16:55

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Unfortunately Zionist extremists, racist Israeli Rabbis and the settlers make that a diminishing prospect

You are totally in denial Jez: we never heard the shop assistant say "Jesus killer". That is an invention. Next time, try to make a better post-synchro job.
So Jez, why did you call me a "Jesus killer"?

Jez, that really is an old trick to say "I won't be replying". It is a method of saying your piece of propaganda, without having to defend it when it is scrutinized.

I am so glad you disagree with the Ahava boycotters, who chant for the destruction of Israel. Have you told them so?

However, your reading of the conflict is entirely erroneous. You put all the onus at Israel's door. So the past 100 years of Arab aggression and genocidal intentions have nothing to do with it? Arab terrorism has nothing to do with it? Hamas' and Hizbollah's calls for the extermination of ALL Jews, backed by the Holocaust denying tyrant in tehran have nothing to do with it?

I think you have heard a few too many slogans, and visited a few too many hate sites - it seems to have stopped you thinking.

You have refused to engage on a number of issues - like naming which other countries you boycott. If you boycott Israel, and only Israel, then you are engaging in the worst kind of hypocrisy - and it is also antisemitic to hold Jews to standards you do not apply to others. You appear shameless about your racism.

As for the shop incident, I have not seen the entire exchange (the five second clip) - and I also know that the Ahava boycotters engage in the worst kind of hateful and hysterical abuse. If you honestly think that Ahava shopkeepers are the problem for the Jews, and not the global movement which seeks to delegitimize Israel, a campaign which frequently indulges in the worst antisemitic fantasies, then I think you have neither perspective nor knowledge.

You are a Galloway supporter - he in turn supports Hizbollah and Hamas, both antisemitic neo-Nazi terror organizations. His support for Saddam, where he bowed and almost licked his boots, whilst Saddam was murdering and torturing millions, is simply obscene - as is your support for him.

That really is shameful, and no amount of indignant verbiage on your part will hide that fact.

jose (not verified)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 18:38

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Amber, same thing to Jez. Did you note he never answers me? I think this is the proof we've met him before under another pseudo. Another member of the hate group JfJfP?

Why are Jew-haters invariably so ignorant?
There is not now, and never has been, such a thing as "the 1967 borders".
And come to think of it, the Green Line didn't even involve Jez' mythical country of 'Palestine'.

Really? Is that the same kind of stupidity that you believe in your profession? Thanks for adding my name anyway, as I was not even aware of that petition.

jose (not verified)

Sat, 12/18/2010 - 21:25

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Has either the CST or Anthony Julius been informed of the Ahava employee's atrocious anti-Semitism?

By the way, don't forget to tell us what was the exact formula Ahava's employee has used. As an ex-journalist, you should be very reliable and organised, be able to get ideas across clearly. It would be terrible if you worked in haste instead in speed...

millis, you're such a bloody hypocrite. Every Jew hater and obsessive antisemite on these blogs gets no response from you, but now you are outraged by what an employee has/has not said (and perobably not thinking very clearly after being verbally assaulted by Ahava boycott antisemites). Yes, people like her are the real threat to Jews, not the global movement to delegitimize the Jews and their state.