Yea we have a 410 by the bedroom door for that reason but I'm looking for something for her that can reach out and touch someone. We live on a farm
on top of a hill and have great site lines so we want to be able to keep people out of shotgun range

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Actually, thinking back to my military days, you might want to get her a South African R4 or R5. Very light weight, pretty accurate in single shot at
200 yards. Fully auto and semi auto modes as well. Your basic survival in the jungle type weapon and a lot lighter than an M4.

For close combat I prefer Desert Eagle, 44 mag., the 357 didn't feel "strong" enough. Magnum Industries makes a nice interchangeable XIX series as
well, 44/50. I also ran a CZ-83 9mm and a CZ-75 9mmP. The 83 was pretty good, never jammed, can't say that about the 75. My Co had a 762 Baretta he
kept under his hat, small gun but very effective.

I have the old school Remington 870 Express and it kicks like a mule. I don't think your wife will like that too much. Any of the newer model
semi-auto shot guns kick way less and are very accurate, your wife would be fine with that...

Never said anything about killing someone. Who said it would be people we are defending ourselves from, could it not be some type of animal?
Even if it were a person or persons defending your self is not the same as killing.

Originally posted by Campy61
We already have a few guns I recently bought myself a 223 AR and she has been practising with the 22 rifle but I want her to have a little more fire
power. We shoot every weekend and she is getting pretty good but she doesn't like the AR platform.

Any suggestions?

Yeah tell her this is for protecting the family not buying flower arrangements for the table. Do I need to point out the many benefits to having
standardized weapons for the family? I would tell her tough the family protection rifle is the AR platform she needs to learn to use it for the
protection of her family in a crisis situation. This isn't shopping for clothes. What does she not like about the platform?

I not only got the AR for the family I made them all assemble it themselves so they know the weapon inside and out. It is not that difficult and the
best platform. It is like the PC of rifles lots of companies make the parts and most of them are all interchangeable

It's actually still pretty easy to miss with a shotgun, unless you are using something with a huge spread like birdshot, which is going to be much
less useful anyway. Just because you have more than one round heading down range doesn't mean you don't have to aim.

OP,

What doesn't she like about the AR? Does she have a problem with a 5.56 or just the gun itself?

A 5.56 seems like it would be a good round for her. Decent power and range, without too much recoil. If she doesn't like ARs, but would use a 5.56,
something along the lines of a SIG556, Saiga .223, Ruger Mini-14, Kel-Tec SU16, STG 556.

Here are some links for info/reviews of the previously mentioned guns:

why would you need to defend yourself against animals when shtf and not now? you live on a farm so I will assume you live in a rual area so animals
are probally already alive and if they are a threat then you need you defens now not after shtf there for leading me to think you were talking about
killing humans.

It's actually still pretty easy to miss with a shotgun, unless you are using something with a huge spread like birdshot, which is going to be much
less useful anyway. Just because you have more than one round heading down range doesn't mean you don't have to aim.

OP,

What doesn't she like about the AR? Does she have a problem with a 5.56 or just the gun itself?

A 5.56 seems like it would be a good round for her. Decent power and range, without too much recoil. If she doesn't like ARs, but would use a 5.56,
something along the lines of a SIG556, Saiga .223, Ruger Mini-14, Kel-Tec SU16, STG 556.

Here are some links for info/reviews of the previously mentioned guns:

Be prepared to go to jail.
Just because the SHTF, doesnt mean that law enforcement suddenly vanishes. There are very few places in the world where you can blow somebody's
head off at your front door and not suffer any legal consequences. Even with SHTF, I'm not seeing the USA get to this state of affairs.

As somebody else points out, a shotgun certainly does the job of looking and sounding the part. Even if you dont aim it directly at them.
They'll go away.

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