<p>I think i understand what she is saying.</p>
<p>First of all, not anyone can be rastafarian. You can be supportive, but its just not right for a white man, someone who has never been oppressed the way black people have, to identify that way because he wants to establish a sense of pride.</p>

<p>I think her argument lacks a sense humor and takes the issue too seriously because of pain she has not yet fully dealt with yet.</p>
<p>So, I can rephrase it for her.</p>
<p>Please dont use feminist to refer to men as you would not refer to yourself as a child dying of aids just because you somehow, whether through action or just wishful thinking, want kids dying of aids to stop suffering.</p>

<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 27, 2013 8:57 PM, "macegr" <<a href="mailto:garrettmace@gmail.com">garrettmace@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Not sure where I "brushed off" anything, OR told her that she was doing feminism wrong. She gets to do feminism however she pleases. I only jumped in when she responded to Romy's friendly invitation by lumping all men together into an "oppressor class" which is hard to process as anything but deliberately inflammatory logical fallacy.</div>
<div><br></div><div>How many straight people who support gay rights should be told to shove off?</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jul 27, 2013, at 8:37 PM, hep <<a href="mailto:dis@gruntle.org" target="_blank">dis@gruntle.org</a>> wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Oh it's not invalid, just HIGHLY disrespect to brush off the concerns of someone of an oppressed group trying to defend their own group. i mean hey, why would a woman be touchy about some guy telling her she isn't doing feminism right tho, right? <div>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>The only definition I challenged was whether a man could consider themselves feminist. There's anything but consensus on whether being a feminist requires a specific configuration of organs, but I believe that a man can want the same things, and that feminism is an idea rather than an accident of genetics. I'm not even claiming that I'm a feminist, though I often identify with their thinking. What Lupita might be on guard against is a sick form of sexism where men purport to be feminists but actually want to gain female approval through white-knighting the movement, attempting to make women dependent on their protection.</div>

<div><br></div><div>But, to be entirely honest...I felt Lupita's phrasing was not what someone would use to reprimand someone and draw them to their point of view, but was constructed purely to ignite controversy. Therefore I thought I was feeding a few breadcrumbs to an obvious troll, which might change your opinion of how reasonable I actually am.</div>