Seriously, what's the point of you posting in here, other than trying to piss off Mets fans? I think the thread author started the thread to get a discussion going among fellow Mets fans. What the hell do you care where the Mets are going to be in 2009 and beyond? Isn't there enough to discuss and worry about with the Yankees?

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THE NHL MUST LOVE THE DEVILS - from who else? A RANGER fan![Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime? - Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

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As a Mets fan I want to be able to discuss Yankees stuff too if there is something interesting going on since I follow both teams although I follow the Yankees specifically to root against them.

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Your unconditional rejection of violence makes you smugly think of yourselves as noble, as enlightened, but in reality it is nothing less than abject moral capitulation to evil. Unconditional rejection of self-defense, because you think its a supposed surrender to violence, leaves you no resort but begging for mercy or offering appeasement.

-Terry Goodkind

Sex Panther cologne -- 50 percent of the time, it works every time.

-Anchorman

The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is now.

As a Mets fan I want to be able to discuss Yankees stuff too if there is something interesting going on since I follow both teams although I follow the Yankees specifically to root against them.

That's fine. It's a free country. But to start with Mike Pelfrey should make the Opening Day squad without seeing the guy make some spring starts first, and then to follow it up with that it's this year or bust...what's the point of a non-Mets fan posting that, other to antagonize? Mets fans know that there's some issues without having to have a friggin' Yankee fan point them out.

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THE NHL MUST LOVE THE DEVILS - from who else? A RANGER fan![Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime? - Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

#30 FOREVER!

20 out of 1,946 njdevs.com members agree: CR1976 is the Most Knowledgable Poster of 2008! Victory is mine...oh yes, victory is mine!

It's thoughts like 'Spring starts determine who makes the roster' why I'm in either thread.

Teams have lost a lot of games by thinking 3 4 inning performances against minor league competition means we can throw 8 years of history out the window.

and I got antagonized right away. Also, Jorge Sosa's going to make the team - he was left off the original post.

True about spring training. It's a way for managers and staff to see players in person for a few weeks but their minor league track record is a much better indicator of performance.

Also the Daily News, I think, had the Mets shopping Sosa. It seems the team wants to use Pelfrey as the 5th starter to start the year and use El Duque out of the pen and as the safety net starter.

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Your unconditional rejection of violence makes you smugly think of yourselves as noble, as enlightened, but in reality it is nothing less than abject moral capitulation to evil. Unconditional rejection of self-defense, because you think its a supposed surrender to violence, leaves you no resort but begging for mercy or offering appeasement.

-Terry Goodkind

Sex Panther cologne -- 50 percent of the time, it works every time.

-Anchorman

The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is now.

Pelfrey pitched a solid three innings today vs. the Braves. He could very well be the 5th starter in the rotation and move Hernandez to the bull pen. Mets beat the Braves today in 10 innings 3-2 for their third win in a row after starting the preseason 0-3. Mets are 3-3 in preseason.

Pelfrey pitched a solid three innings today vs. the Braves. He could very well be the 5th starter in the rotation and move Hernandez to the bull pen. Mets beat the Braves today in 10 innings 3-2 for their third win in a row after starting the preseason 0-3. Mets are 3-3 in preseason.

That's good to hear. I'd love for Pelfrey to live up to his potential, starting this season. A good spring can only help his confidence.

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THE NHL MUST LOVE THE DEVILS - from who else? A RANGER fan![Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime? - Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

#30 FOREVER!

20 out of 1,946 njdevs.com members agree: CR1976 is the Most Knowledgable Poster of 2008! Victory is mine...oh yes, victory is mine!

Well Pelfrey was great last spring though, didn't get him anywhere when he started 0-8 with an ERA of 6+ I hope he finally turned a corner with a couple of those September outings but that remains to be seen.

Pelfrey pitched a solid three innings today vs. the Braves. He could very well be the 5th starter in the rotation and move Hernandez to the bull pen.

Sounds more like Duque's moving straight to the DL. He canceled another bullpen session today, I guess his body doesn't want to wait for September to break down this year

Then again the Mets as a team have an inordinate amount of injuries already, they've already had to apologize to a handful of opponents for not being able to send enough regulars to games Not to jinx anything but you know things are screwy when Moises Alou's one of the five healthiest players around

Edited by Hasan4978, 03 March 2008 - 07:57 PM.

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"The Devils have high standards, that's the difference. We have a standard to live up to every year, and a couple of teams in our area don't have the standards we do." - Pat Burns

The New Jersey Devils win Stanley Cups everywhere:-NHL record for most road wins in the playoffs - 10-1 in '95 and 10-2 in '00-NHL record for most home wins in the playoffs - 12-1 in '03

I heard Mets are shopping Sosa and Schoewenweis (during SNY telecast of the ST game a day ago).. Not really a surprise but I dont understand what they did with Sosa.. Halfway thru last season he was doing quite well as a starter, they moved him to the 'pen and went completely downhill after a week or two.. I thought Schoewenweis finished the year pretty strongly.. Considering we will have a bunch of guys with a chance to make the 'pen this year I wouldn't mind dealing both of them for a solid reliever.

And I still think, if he continues to do well, Rincon will make the team. Angel has been the best overall player so far though, he could be a great backup to Church or Alou (you know at least one of them will be out for a period of games)

Edited by nmigliore, 04 March 2008 - 09:48 PM.

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LETS GO METSLETS GO DEVILS

"Take all that clubhouse [expletive] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [expletive] for years. Chemistry don't mean [expletive]."

I heard Mets are shopping Sosa and Schoewenweis (during SNY telecast of the ST game a day ago).. Not really a surprise but I dont understand what they did with Sosa.. Halfway thru last season he was doing quite well as a starter, they moved him to the 'pen and went completely downhill after a week or two.. I thought Schoewenweis finished the year pretty strongly.. Considering we will have a bunch of guys with a chance to make the 'pen this year I wouldn't mind dealing both of them for a solid reliever.

And I still think, if he continues to do well, Rincon will make the team. Angel has been the best overall player so far though, he could be a great backup to Church or Alou (you know at least one of them will be out for a period of games)

Your assessment of Sosa's performance isn't really accurate.

He did get off to a terrific start, going 6-1 with a 2.64 ERA in his first seven starts, but then went 1-5 in his next seven starts (with an ERA of 7.00) and his overall ERA soared to 4.59. The Mets were more than justified in yanking him from the rotation.

THE NHL MUST LOVE THE DEVILS - from who else? A RANGER fan![Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime? - Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

#30 FOREVER!

20 out of 1,946 njdevs.com members agree: CR1976 is the Most Knowledgable Poster of 2008! Victory is mine...oh yes, victory is mine!

I don't think the Mets'll be shopping Sosa or Schoenweis now that Sanchez is out for a while (predictably) and will probably start the season on the DL.

The hits just keep on coming (only figuratively) for the Mets, now Alou had surgery on a hernia and will be out six weeks - blame me on that one, I jinxed it The masochist in me can't wait to see the Opening Day lineup of Pagan, Abreu, Fernando Martinez, etc

Edited by Hasan4978, 05 March 2008 - 08:45 PM.

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"The Devils have high standards, that's the difference. We have a standard to live up to every year, and a couple of teams in our area don't have the standards we do." - Pat Burns

The New Jersey Devils win Stanley Cups everywhere:-NHL record for most road wins in the playoffs - 10-1 in '95 and 10-2 in '00-NHL record for most home wins in the playoffs - 12-1 in '03

Santana pitched very well today giving up 1 run and two hits in 3 innings. He looked solid today as the Mets won in the bottom of the 9th inning to sweep Torre and the Dodgers in the preseason. Mets 5th win in a row in the pre-season.

I don't think the Mets'll be shopping Sosa or Schoenweis now that Sanchez is out for a while (predictably) and will probably start the season on the DL.

The hits just keep on coming (only figuratively) for the Mets, now Alou had surgery on a hernia and will be out six weeks - blame me on that one, I jinxed it The masochist in me can't wait to see the Opening Day lineup of Pagan, Abreu, Fernando Martinez, etc

Alou got hurt...who saw that coming?

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THE NHL MUST LOVE THE DEVILS - from who else? A RANGER fan![Mark Messier]: A big, bald attention whore with a stupid Easter Island-lookin face. - from who else? DaneykoIsGod!

Even when Marty comes back maybe Larry should put Clemmensen to be on the goal during the shootouts.Can the coach do that ? Switch the goalies 5 seconds to go in overtime? - Most priceless quote ever posted on a message board.

Martin Brodeur: THE MOST ALL-TIME WINS!, 12 straight seasons of 30+ wins, 3 Stanley Cups, 4 Vezina Trophies, and zero respect from too many so-called Devils "fans" who are either too young or too bandwagon to remember the much darker days of Sean Burke, Craig Billington, Bob Sauve, Alain Chevrier, and the talented but overwhelmed Chico Resch, among many others.

It's easy to support a great player when he's playing at his very best. It takes a true fan to support that same player during those rare moments and stretches when he's not. Babe Ruth went 0-4 some games, and sometimes Wayne Gretzky was held pointless. There may be such a thing as greatness, but no such thing as absolute perfection every single night.

#30 FOREVER!

20 out of 1,946 njdevs.com members agree: CR1976 is the Most Knowledgable Poster of 2008! Victory is mine...oh yes, victory is mine!

Alou has a hernia and needed to be operated on now. It has been bothering him for sometime now and they are finally going to operate on his hernia. Alou will be out only the first month (April) of the season. He will be back in May. Better to lose Alou early in the season to rather lose him at the end of the season.

I really hope Pagan gets Alou's spot.. hes been insane in spring training so far, by far the Mets top batter at this point in spring training

Spring training hitting is next to meaningless. I'd much rather look at the 150 games he played the last 2 seasons where he hit .255 with little power.

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Your unconditional rejection of violence makes you smugly think of yourselves as noble, as enlightened, but in reality it is nothing less than abject moral capitulation to evil. Unconditional rejection of self-defense, because you think its a supposed surrender to violence, leaves you no resort but begging for mercy or offering appeasement.

-Terry Goodkind

Sex Panther cologne -- 50 percent of the time, it works every time.

-Anchorman

The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is now.

Spring training hitting is next to meaningless. I'd much rather look at the 150 games he played the last 2 seasons where he hit .255 with little power.

so we should pick a name out of a hat on who should take Alou's spot for the time hes out? Out of the possible replacements (Anderson, Chavez, F-Mart [too young], Pagan, Clark) I think Pagan has been most impressive

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LETS GO METSLETS GO DEVILS

"Take all that clubhouse [expletive] and all that, throw it out the window. Every writer in the country has been writing about that [expletive] for years. Chemistry don't mean [expletive]."