The Truth About Google Buzz: It's Late, Boring, And Lamehttp://www.businessinsider.com/the-truth-about-google-buzz-2010-2/comments
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can not a agree that, goog buzz has its own weapon - I too agree with quadephilip.<a href="http://www.thebestvillas.com/">Florida Villas</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4cf89259cadcbb93551e0000quadephilipFri, 03 Dec 2010 01:46:48 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4cf89259cadcbb93551e0000
can not a agree that, goog buzz has its own weapon.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4cef42bb4bd7c8fd16190000RacheelFri, 26 Nov 2010 00:16:43 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4cef42bb4bd7c8fd16190000
Part email, part Facebook, part Twitter, part Friendfeed, part Foursquare. - That was awesome to see all in one.<a href="http://www.usamovingandstorage.com/">Chicago mover</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4cc8eb95ccd1d59e2e0c0000Enrico FermiWed, 27 Oct 2010 23:18:44 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4cc8eb95ccd1d59e2e0c0000
In fact, Google products are nicely engineered and have clean design. I think this sever to be good for anyone who are using it. Enrico from <a href="http://vetementgrossesse.org/">Vetement Grossesse</a>http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4cb47a2e7f8b9a3540490300JohnsonTue, 12 Oct 2010 11:09:34 -0400http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4cb47a2e7f8b9a3540490300
Part email, part Facebook, part Twitter, part Friendfeed, part Foursquare.
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Actually, it does have to do with user base, because Buzz is bundled with GMail. It is much easier for users to use one service from one central place with one account and password than have multiple accounts spread out across the web.
As for MS, I'm not sure which services you mean. IE, for example, wouldn't be alive right now if it wasn't for its bundling with Windows. Or Paint.
And the reasons it fails with its web offerings are just uncompelling (Bing is an awful search engine, Hotmail is not as comfortable as GMail, almost everything it has is available at Google, where everyone already has their data, so why switch and lose those, etc, etc.).
The bottom line is, a person's going to prefer to use a single service to fit all his needs, not several. Bundling Buzz with GMail as an optional feature was ingenious on Google's part.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7d3984000000000084457bRobMThu, 18 Feb 2010 07:58:44 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7d3984000000000084457b
> Google Buzz has one thing Facebook doesn't - my email
Yes but it doesn't have MY email since I closed my 2 gmail accounts down in disgust at Google's behaviour and it doesn't have the email of several of my friends who have never had gmail accounts and don't want them.
Facebook is where any user with any email address chooses for it to be in their life. Buzz is over there in the weeds where it can only help you reach someone else on Gmail. And it looks a long long way from being so good that people will sign up to gmail just to get buzz.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7bf8080000000000f02234RobMWed, 17 Feb 2010 09:07:04 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7bf8080000000000f02234
If "FourSquare" is so important then why has no one outside of the new media / social media / web2.0 backslapping gravy train heard of them?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7aefe00000000000c7ca5dKendra JonesTue, 16 Feb 2010 14:20:00 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7aefe00000000000c7ca5d
Yes, he did - and rightly. FourSquare is rapidly becoming a platform to contend with. Which is why Google (and a handful of other companies/app developers) is ripping it off, along with Twitter and Facebook.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b77596f000000000078cc3dJamie WoodbridgeSat, 13 Feb 2010 21:01:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b77596f000000000078cc3d
It occurs to me that, from Google's perspective, it doesn't really matter how successful projects like Wave or Buzz are in displacing facebook or twitter. Let me explain.
Can you honestly see Marissa Mayer, the gatekeeper for new Google product releases, sat there under the misconception that Buzz is set to kill off Twitter or Facebook forever? The very fact that you have to be a gmail user to use Buzz ensures that it will never have the universal appeal of the well-entrenched Facebook. What it is more likely to achieve is a significant though not massive increase in the number of active gmail accounts due to people's curiosity about Buzz. But the vast majority of people won't know anything about it. Only those following blogs like this are in the know about the latest Google releases.
What these social media releases from Google do achieve, however, is something of a spoiler effect. They serve to remind the tech community that Google is nipping around the heels of Facebook and twitter in the social space. And they can afford to roll out these new services and projects of whim (i am thinking of Wave in particular here) without it distracting them from their core search ad business or their upcoming display ad revenue bonanza. If Buzz and Wave fail to take off and gradually die out or get merged with other services, so what, they lose very little. They will keep rolling out new services and products and every one in fifty will be a hit.
Crucially, Google is one of only a handful of companies that can afford to take this Darwinian approach to the development of its own products. It has huge cash reserves and can take the hit on failed projects. Twitter and Facebook are far less able to make large, costly mistakes. By keeping up the pressure on them Google increases the chances of forcing an error from its competitors.
I think this strategy is extremely sophisticated. Interested to hear others' thoughts on this.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7703980000000000ab5173Nour YousfiSat, 13 Feb 2010 14:55:04 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7703980000000000ab5173
Google has always done it best... they know how to make it easy and smooth and simple, facebook has so many flaws and it's really slow and complicated, and they ruined it with the applications and their disturbing ideas.
I'll support google ;)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b747c6f0000000000cb874cKirk MehlinThu, 11 Feb 2010 16:53:50 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b747c6f0000000000cb874c
I'm the complete anti-social networking guy...no Facebook, twitter, myspace, etc. But I'm intrigued by this and willing to give it a chance. I like the integration and at least initially, I like the concept.
I remember reading lots of similar "OMG GOOGLE SUCKS" feedback when G-Mail first came out. "Why do we need it? We have HOTMAIL and YAHOO MAIL! WEEEEEEEEEEE".
Open minds facilitate progress, give it a chance.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b742ee80000000000a106d0Phil RuseThu, 11 Feb 2010 11:23:03 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b742ee80000000000a106d0
It's less a Facebook and more a Twitter rival. There's a really clean integration (as you'd expect) from one-off comment to blogs to pulling in chatter from elsewhere. I like how comments are grouped into conversations and I could see it being used as an IM tool real easily too.
Build out the features carefully, control the chatter and really work that real-time search and I think Google could be on to something. Everything from short messages to pulling in blogs to IM all with one simple interface. Like it :)http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b738b970000000000654384LifBrinWed, 10 Feb 2010 23:46:15 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b738b970000000000654384
You seem to be clearly confused. This world of social networking is about integration, ease of use, user base, and location. Google Buzz has 3 out of 4. It will succeed, but mainly due to it's tight integration with Gmail.
I have everyone neatly sorted out in Gmail with people I actually talk too (intimately or non intimately), unlike in any social site.
The next step would be integration of Facebook, Tumblr, Vimeo, Goodreads, etc.
Then, this would be the perfect tool.
P.S. Please adopt OpenID instead of forcing spam onto my email in return for using Facebook connect.
Really, that sucks.
Cheers,
LifBrinhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b737a3300000000007867d9LOPWed, 10 Feb 2010 22:32:03 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b737a3300000000007867d9
There is one interesting point. Facebook, twitter, and messengers are forbidden in lots of working places. But you can open gmail, i used to chat with the built in gmail chat, and i will use google buzz for that reason.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7345060000000000f4afd9cshortWed, 10 Feb 2010 18:45:10 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7345060000000000f4afd9
Is this just tit-for-tat?
Haven't seen anyone else mention the coincidence that simultaneously:
* Google gets into Social Networking
* Facebook gets into email (external email)
Facebook's email might be a Gmail killer!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7338bb00000000000f1431Anon EmouseWed, 10 Feb 2010 17:52:42 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7338bb00000000000f1431
P.S. can't turn off gmail autosave, can't set the autosave frequency, etc. The list goes on of BASIC known UI granularity and options granularity for the user that's been around for 15+ years in other products that the "experts" at google do not seem to know about.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7337c50000000000e9716cAnon EmouseWed, 10 Feb 2010 17:48:37 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7337c50000000000e9716c
Same 'ol suggestion that google hasn't listened-to for the past 10 years. Dear google, stop "inventing" things. Fix the BASICS first. Fix what you've already "invented" ie. stil can't partial-keyword search in gmail. Image search still only 20 results per screen max. Search "suggestions" are on by default and the turn-off setting is tied to a cookie rather than your google login, so the setting is less persistent etc. The list goes on. Perform a usabilitiy test or two please.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b732a9300000000008c89b0CliffWed, 10 Feb 2010 16:52:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b732a9300000000008c89b0
Is it really more convenient? I don't see it. If anything, I believe it's going to do a fine job of cluttering up my Gmail, which up until now was nice and streamlined.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7328e10000000000826faaCliffWed, 10 Feb 2010 16:45:05 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7328e10000000000826faa
I'm 100% with Lisa. I don't understand the point of this. When Facebook is literally one click away, is it REALLY necessary that it be integrated into my Gmail account? In my mind, they are two completely different tools, and I'd like to keep them that way. I opted out... no Buzz for me.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72f5760000000000a585aechriscoWed, 10 Feb 2010 13:05:41 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72f5760000000000a585ae
Hopefully Google Buzz doesn't infringe on the BuzzPal trademark, http://bit.ly/buzzpal . Or if they want to go that direction (have Buzz Pals), maybe they buy or license.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72e8120000000000751f95tcWed, 10 Feb 2010 12:08:34 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72e8120000000000751f95
Facebooks opening to public access was the beginning of the end.
Its funny, everybody keeps running over to the cool new thing, where it gets all loaded up with junk and dies.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72d2be0000000000eb7510lrdWed, 10 Feb 2010 10:37:34 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72d2be0000000000eb7510
Looks and sounds like Google's getting desperate to come up with something that works.
I can't wait until Apple gets in advertising and starts eating their lunch. Then we'll see Google's stock
take a 30 to 50% noise dive.
And I predict Apple's going to start eating Google's lunch as early as August of this year.
Then we'll see what happens when a truly innovative company sets it sights on your market.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72d20a000000000093309eRBWed, 10 Feb 2010 10:34:34 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72d20a000000000093309e
While I have a gmail account for marketing research, economic news, and some personal, I must reveal the "dirty little secret" of gmail: Its functionality is about a 4 on a scale of 0 (nonfunctional) to 10 (rewardingly, enjoyably functional)…and that rating may be generous.
The problem with the Google site and its many features, documented by various trade articles over the past few years, is that there is a very low level of online awareness and usage of these features. Because the Mountain View campus seems to operate in some sort of controlled access biosphere, there is some disconnect between what Google product development executives and engineers think is "cool" or "disruptive" and what works well and productively for the great unwashed online public.
So, I am skeptical about Google Buzz. That skepticism connects to whether this function benefits me, or my friends, or anything I do online that might have a business objective.
Also, truthfully, I've been trying to knock at Google's door with a counterintuitive advertising idea (on behalf of the 20-person agency where I work). Getting a response is about the same as getting Brooklyn Decker to respond to a love note to her on the heels of her "Sports Illustrated" cover appearance this week.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72cb0e0000000000b2ac16NoelWed, 10 Feb 2010 10:04:45 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72cb0e0000000000b2ac16
couple of things..twitter (brilliant idea!) will respond to this quicker than you can say buzz-lightning:-) google's late in the social networking game, shud've done this right at the twitter launch (but it had seltzer then..no buzz?:-) it should be integrated into google search, such as a buzz button, and definitely not gmail. gmail is a niche market and buzz should be separate so you should be able to set up your own "buzz" account without having to be a gmail user, so you can either google it (the most used phrase), or buzz it. periodhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72af0c0000000000061723Jamie ThomsonWed, 10 Feb 2010 08:05:15 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72af0c0000000000061723
I'm not sure that that was the point he was making :) but nonetheless yours is a nice analogy from the perspective that its trying to get into a market that for all intents and purposes has already been won.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7294c60000000000541e5dfollow 100Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:13:10 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b7294c60000000000541e5d
Hah, i follow 400 people.. so i cant track the flood.. i read few updates but miss a LOT. so it is noise.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72922300000000009e4d67Matt AucklandWed, 10 Feb 2010 06:01:55 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72922300000000009e4d67
It won't challenge Twitter, as Twitter is becoming well established thanks to the free media hype it has gained over the last few years, and due to events like the Iran elections.
I think Twitter it is safe in its position, and Buzz will just be another feature of GMail. I'm also wondering how the checkin feature is supose to challenge FourSquare, is Buzz an iPhone app or at least have an iPhone interface?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72339500000000002418c0Tin YeukTue, 09 Feb 2010 23:18:29 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72339500000000002418c0
If Google integrates Buzz into their PageRank algorithm, everyone will start using it ! Because Google dominates the online search engine industry. I think Google will surely do that.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b722ce80000000000082748TravisTue, 09 Feb 2010 22:50:00 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b722ce80000000000082748
Oh great, more crap to make search less on target. I'm not a young teenager and couldn't give a darn about whatever one else is doing, nor do I want them to know what I'm searching. I used to love Google, but due to things like this I have been transitioning to using bing more and more.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b720d830000000000765278Sprague DTue, 09 Feb 2010 20:36:03 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b720d830000000000765278
Excellent comment. The *rate* at which Google is tossing off "platforms" suggests a frantic organization trying to source as many possible avenues of income for the future now that their cash cow is in the cross-hairs. Not much strategy or integration in sight. Last year it was all about Wave (which went nowhere), this year it's Buzz. Next year..?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72003800000000000948cbJennifer NelsonTue, 09 Feb 2010 19:39:20 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b72003800000000000948cb
I only caught bits and pieces of the presentation, however, I for one, was impressed. I am a twitter user, facebook user, and I would use FourSquare if I weren't in a technologically retarded state. (Oklahoma) I think over time this has HUGE potential. But I am obviously more in the minority amongst this crowd. Time will tell! I personally feel a Facebook backlash is in the making. Too many damned annoying people with their damned annoying games and crap. Talk about noise.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71f3c00000000000f56bf6g.j.Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:46:08 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71f3c00000000000f56bf6
I think you spotted something that was generally missed: one of Buzz targets is SharePoint. Google is systematically attacking Office and Outlook with GMail. Making it a communication hub walks into SharePoint territory - it is not as powerful, but is far cheaper and enough for many lighter uses - MS is overhead and costly in many cases.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71e316000000000027cb54ChemTue, 09 Feb 2010 17:35:01 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71e316000000000027cb54
Congrats, you win my "dumb post of the day" award.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d9f900000000001f2409nttwrsTue, 09 Feb 2010 16:56:08 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d9f900000000001f2409
People aren't going to want to use Facebook AND Google Buzz. I love gmail, but 70% of my Facebook connections don't use Gmail, and I know quite a few people that just plain don't like it (obviously that's not a good read for the bigger population, but still). This might be cool for the 40% of Gmail techies that like to try everything out, but it's no game-changer and it sure as heck won't make a dent in Facebook.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d9e100000000000586c7Mikey HewittTue, 09 Feb 2010 16:55:45 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d9e100000000000586c7
Facebook has every users email... You just dont make it viewable to others. Your email is what you use to get contacts in the first place.
For every bit of fun that Facebook doesn't have, Twitter picks up on it.
Google are picking up crumbs if you ask me.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d8c80000000000a329f5DavidTue, 09 Feb 2010 16:51:04 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d8c80000000000a329f5
Damn. The same day I mothball my facebook page, they stick a social network in my inbox.
Damn.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d8a5000000000038faf2Mikey HewittTue, 09 Feb 2010 16:50:29 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d8a5000000000038faf2
What people fail to realize is Twitter has done well to stand beside Facebook not only because its a generally good concept, It also works very well with Facebook.
Google Buzz aren't exactly fighting Facebook & Twitter individually, their fighting the COMBINATION of twitter & facebook. That's their first fail.
Their second fail you ask?
Following your email contacts.
Sure, It sounds nice to the common person, but what about teachers with all their student contact, managers with their employees. I DONT WANT TO FOLLOW MY STUDENTS =|. I also don't want to be following someone i emailed 3 years ago.
Add that to the fact that Google Buzz is a crap name & doesn't interest me upon using it.
Google Buzz = 3/10http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d84a000000000023f135Mark SigalTue, 09 Feb 2010 16:48:58 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d84a000000000023f135
Personally, I think that it's great that Google is iterating Gmail, and actually improving an existing product versus rolling out yet another one-off.
My bigger question is what in their DNA suggests a culture of delighting customers, relentless focusing on the details to deliver a better user experience, clear strategy, etc.
Case in point, after today I am wondering is Gmail the new Wave? Yesterday, I thought that Wave was destined to be the new Gmail?
Similarly, the company is so obtuse about what's a project, what's a product and what's a platform that I am rarely sure if this is to be treated like a concept car (labs) or tied into a real strategic initiative.
After all, Google has this somewhat head-achey culture of creating overlapping products (Buzz, Wave, Reader, Talk, Gmail, Chrome, Android), and then giving cloudy guidance on demarcation lines.
Personally, this leads to half-baked, weakly integrated products, and a larger risk of teaching the market to only pay prolonged, serious attention when Google shows that THEY are paying prolonged serious attention to a given product
That doesn't seem like a winning strategy for successful market innovation, IMHO, unless the goal is just to keep "moving forward" unless and until the core search/ad business gets threatened.
Food for thought.
Markhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d834000000000044bf22freddy beeTue, 09 Feb 2010 16:48:36 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d834000000000044bf22
I think the thing that SAI doesn't "get" here, is where this fits in the enterprise space. This offering - if sold to business - takes a hard run at Microsoft and the Sharepoint, Communications, Collaboration offerings. In this space, it's a very interesting platform.
that said, SAI appears to have no real enterprise expertise, so i doubt they'd even see the fit here.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d43b00000000004b46a4KareemTue, 09 Feb 2010 16:31:39 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d43b00000000004b46a4
1 app to rule them all is rarely successful. Feature bloat, trying to be everything to everyone usually makes for a slow, difficult and hard to use product (see Lotus Notes).http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d1900000000000084caaChemTue, 09 Feb 2010 16:20:15 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d1900000000000084caa
Did you actually just compare the iPhone to Buzz?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d1800000000000bacbb8Robert J. HoltzTue, 09 Feb 2010 16:20:00 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d1800000000000bacbb8
You make an interesting point, @anon, about Google using its content relevancy prowess to make a new engine that takes Buzzes the way Twitter takes in Tweets but somehow organizes them to push forward on the signal-to-noise ratio. Would that be BuzzRank? But the fact is, if they really wanted to do that, the smartest thing would be to buy Twitter (or at least pick up and impliment Twitter's open API) and integrated Twitter INTO Gmail. Then they could have a TweetRank type "view" that maybe contextualizes your Twitter streams into what matters most to you. THAT would be very cool.
Unfortunately, it appears that all this does is create a different place to get status updates that offers nothing new other than it isn't Twitter. There, Google is actually fragmenting the market rather than unifying it or organizing it the way PageRank does.
I'm with Dan Frommer on this one. If Google really wanted to be in social so badly, they should have just bought Twitter. Buzz will gain immediate traction somewhat automatically because of the large installed base of Gmail users. This is basically an extension of Google Chat. I will point out that I personally disabled that feature and will likely also disable Buzz if it lets me because I don't see how it advances the state of the art in the least.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d149000000000082544cVeronica OrozcoTue, 09 Feb 2010 16:19:05 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d149000000000082544c
I would use this over Facebook simply because Facebook spam is unending. I never receive spam in my Gmail account. And I'm more of a one app to rule them all kind of girl. Give me one site that covers all of my bases and I'm there. Hell, I'm just about ready to shut down my Facebook account. I'm sure I can get a few of my friends to follow me and then...you know how these things work.
Ha...the only reason to have a Facebook account is to log into websites like this one. Or, at least, that's what I mainly use it for.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d025000000000061b66aAndyTue, 09 Feb 2010 16:14:12 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71d025000000000061b66a
Facebook is the king of clutter and a very unfriendly user interface. When people login to it, they are greeted with a very busy screen. On top of that, they can't seem to make up their mind on how it should look -- the layout changes every 4-6 months.
Facebook is the Microsoft of social networking--it makes things more complicated. I hope Google can simplify it, like Apple did with the iphone.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71ce1d000000000066d87bLucky JimTue, 09 Feb 2010 16:05:33 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71ce1d000000000066d87b
The check in stuff! Social geotagging! Well, if it is integrated with Maps 4.0, that could be sweet. I tried downloading the app but it was not available yet (or I can't find it).http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71cac80000000000d984edMKTue, 09 Feb 2010 15:51:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71cac80000000000d984ed
They should toss this crap and make something like Streamy.comhttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71c86f0000000000672c8cChem Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:41:19 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71c86f0000000000672c8c
Someone needs to be fired over this. Honestly I am in awe that Google had the stones to do a full on media event. What on earth were they thinking?
The key to developing any product is for it to solve a problem, Buzz does not solve any problems. It creates static, it creates and additional channel for people to repeat what they have said in other channels. Buzz is not a social disruptor it is a social disruption.
If you look at the TC50, one of the firms there was a company called threadsy, they have an application that aggregates all of your social networking into a single screen. The very fact that there is a market for such a product should flag that the market is completely saturated. I would have been more impressed if they had of gone to Twitter with a huge check and said "how much?" no negotiation, no back channel talks, just "how much?".
Instead they have said "we are going to be all things to all people, it is going to be awesome", when a product tries to say that it is doomed.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71c8660000000000f41711ArseneKarlTue, 09 Feb 2010 15:41:09 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71c8660000000000f41711
I just don't want the majority of my Gmail contacts have anything social to do with me. Put Buzz under Inbox would be super annoying. Like Gmail web interface is not complex enough.
Also people on the facebook and people I follow on Twitter are very different groups, Neither will integrate well with my Gmail contacts.
We are already in an information overload, now google buzz brings us true privacy broadcast? Seriously who's gonna remember to set each and every buzz "private" or "public"? Maybe google is betting you won't.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71c56200000000005e3e87Dan FrommerTue, 09 Feb 2010 15:28:18 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71c56200000000005e3e87
Besides the "check in" stuff... what's attractive to you in their mobile features?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71c3bb0000000000fb7bb2Nicholas CarlsonTue, 09 Feb 2010 15:21:15 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71c3bb0000000000fb7bb2
Facebook has 50% of its users phone numbers, so the number is probably higher for emails…http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71c0b100000000003a1de3anonymousTue, 09 Feb 2010 15:08:17 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71c0b100000000003a1de3
The underlying principle is the same: for business and for pleasure, people want more signal and less noise. Google is weak at presenting a compelling user experience, but their biggest strength is creating scalable algorithms that enhance relevance: not just PageRank, but figuring out the most clickable and relevant text link ads to present on a web page, filtering out spam within Gmail, etc.
This could be a case where Google can bring something to the table that no other company could.
PS,
Don't forget that there are plenty of Twitter holdouts, and lots of people who try it end up abandoning it. Time sinks are a big turn off for busy people. In its current state, more than half the population will never use it. A rethought social networking approach that brings in the holdouts from the cold could be a huge potential win.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71c08500000000007af2caLucky JimTue, 09 Feb 2010 15:07:33 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71c08500000000007af2ca
Guys, what the hell are you talking about? This is about mobility, not Facebook!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bf420000000000e3b219Dan FrommerTue, 09 Feb 2010 15:02:10 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bf420000000000e3b219
I agree. This is the Zune of Facebook.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bef300000000005189b3Justin GibbsTue, 09 Feb 2010 15:00:51 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bef300000000005189b3
Google Buzz has one thing Facebook doesn't - my email. Sure there is the message component of Facebook but no one is putting Facebook email addresses on their business cards. I think the biggest thing Google Buzz will do is nullify Facebook's lead. Facebook might be more exciting but it's more for fun and fleeting. Eventually the convenience of Google Buzz should take a chunk out of Facebook.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bef10000000000aa1c6bKareemTue, 09 Feb 2010 15:00:48 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bef10000000000aa1c6b
What I've always thought about people who keep trying to build the next social network - and I know a number of idiots pursuing (and getting) VC money to do so - is that that ship has sailed. Facebook did it, everyone else missed the boat. Before facebook social networking wasn't that big - some will point to MySpace but I never knew anyone who had a MySpace account.
The idea of copying another product may work with consumer goods - I can buy a Zune even if everyone else has iPods - or even web services - I can switch to GMail cause it's better and won't be affected by the fact that most people are at Yahoo! and Hotmail - but it doesn't work with websites where the value is the MEMBERS. Facebook isn't really the best because of its tech (even though it's good) - even if you build a better site why would anyone use it, all their friends are on facebook?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bea000000000000bddf5ari m. goldbergTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:59:28 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bea000000000000bddf5
google should fire nearly all its GENIUS employees.
2 guys made search -- the founders
the rest have made nothing !http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71be780000000000435818ThomasTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:58:48 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71be780000000000435818
that picture of google engineers basically sums up the excitement around this!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71be70000000000005555ajaneTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:58:40 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71be70000000000005555a
I'm sorry where's the Apple tie-in? I'm looking but can't find it.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71be4a000000000071d932LisaTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:58:02 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71be4a000000000071d932
I am not really getting Google Buzz yet - what's the point?
Agreed that if I need to check other statuses, I would just get on Twitter, Facebook, Myspace, etc.
To me, gmail is email and I would rather see more "email-y" things in it. I occasionally check the "labs" feature to see what new thing is available.
Also, as I have professional AND friends AND family contacts in gmail, and not all of them (esp family) use gmail, I would rather not mix them up in some sort of update/geolocational/finding thing.
I see this as being one of the many services that Google has, that some will use and some won't. Lots of things are launched with a little PR that just don't get used that much (Google Profiles, anyone?).http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71be170000000000b50767TwitexterTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:57:11 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71be170000000000b50767
Exactly. +1http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bdc700000000009036f0chuckTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:55:51 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bdc700000000009036f0
It's for the moments like this I read SAI - to watch the shit that's coming out of crapple lovers when some other company does something great. YEAH!http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bd700000000000de0090TwitexterTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:54:24 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bd700000000000de0090
Google Buzz?? aww... buzz off.....http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bbaa00000000005b5e86Frommer CloneTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:46:50 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bbaa00000000005b5e86
Now, a question for us: Will Google Buzz drive iPad sales? What happens if we sleep with an iPad while buzzing? Will it fall off the bed and crack?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bb3e00000000003c69fdDaveKTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:45:01 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71bb3e00000000003c69fd
Because whats inside of google buzz will affect the natural search results for the google search engine.
If you are doing seo - you will have to utilize google buzz.
If google is ranking whats in google buzz - they will surely integrate that will natural search !http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71babf000000000039e9d0MarkTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:42:55 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71babf000000000039e9d0
Wait - they're not getting killed?!
But you guys already told us twice (literally) that it was a "Killer." Oh, blog headlines, what will you do for us next?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71ba410000000000b4d38bNicholas CarlsonTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:40:49 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71ba410000000000b4d38b
The noise reduction idea is hilarious. On Twitter, you ONLY FOLLOW PEOPLE YOU WANT TO FOLLOW. If they are making noise, you stop following them!
On Facebook, the news feed filters itself. And if that isn't good enough, you can set up your own filters.
What a joke.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71ba070000000000dd7416mrdarklightTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:39:51 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71ba070000000000dd7416
If it's all about user base, then explain to me why Microsoft fails every time it tries to get into one of these markets.
User base in free apps means almost nothing. People can change apps freely with little or no downside.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b9000000000000b1c9aabobTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:35:28 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b9000000000000b1c9aa
what is really the issue here is whether people want/like noise..... many people do... how the hell can you have 500 friends, thats ridiculous.... many people want that many online for whatever reason....sometimes the most useful and logical apps don't win because they are not what the masses want, that is the only threat to this applications success....http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b8f8000000000033387bLucky JimTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:35:20 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b8f8000000000033387b
I was more impressed by the mobile app than the GMail thingie. But then, I don't even use Facebook but mobile services I use a lot.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b8ec0000000000649edfDan FrommerTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:35:08 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b8ec0000000000649edf
I think you're thinking too much like a machine. Facebook and Twitter are entertainment, not a transaction the way search is. If Google can create a more entertaining experience between my friends and me, that'd be awesome. But it hasn't.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b846000000000004a130anonymousTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:32:22 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b846000000000004a130
Google killed incumbent search engines that had a multi-year head start because they figured out how to make search results relevant. All of a sudden, you could find what you were looking for in the first page of links... fast.
Twitter feeds are full of irrelevant noise, and nobody really cares about most of what their Facebook friends are doing most of the time. If Google can come up with some kind of TweetRank that works as well as PageRank did, to filter and present only the good stuff, then they might be onto something. Time will tell.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b82b0000000000bf168cLucky JimTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:31:55 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b82b0000000000bf168c
Wikipedia says: "As of July 2009,[4] it has 146 million users monthly."
I thought it was more. I have more friends than that.http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b761000000000056c39aHenry BlodgetTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:28:33 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b761000000000056c39a
Agree re Foursquare. They're not big enough for it to be Game Over yet.
(Though hard to see how an email application dings them).http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b75700000000001188f5Lucky JimTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:28:23 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b75700000000001188f5
If the phone app is smooth to use, they may have something. Will it also have place reviews like Yelp?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b6d20000000000f4ecd8Dan FrommerTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:26:10 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b6d20000000000f4ecd8
Sure, tens of millions (more?) use Gmail for email. But not for this other stuff. And even if I use Gmail, most of the people I email with don't.
I don't have to worry about that at Facebook. So why would I bother?http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b68e0000000000a94bc5bobTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:25:02 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b68e0000000000a94bc5
danny boy, what you are missing is the already in place user base............ how many people worldwide use GMAIL, come on danny boy, wake up and smell the roses...........its not a facebook killer but it will hurt twitter and services like foursquare........... in the online game danny boy, user base is everythinghttp://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b5120000000000db5c33Wayne BTue, 09 Feb 2010 14:18:42 -0500http://www.businessinsider.com/c/4b71b5120000000000db5c33
Did you really just put FourSquare (who are they?) in the same category as Facebook and Twitter?