Either way, he's a *bleep*ing idiot. If he didn't know what he meant, he's an idiot because it's almost impossible not to know. If he did know, he's an idiot for being a fascist AND thinking he can get away with it.

Either way, he's a *bleep*ing idiot. If he didn't know what he meant, he's an idiot because it's almost impossible not to know. If he did know, he's an idiot for being a fascist AND thinking he can get away with it.

Either way, he's a *bleep*ing idiot. If he didn't know what he meant, he's an idiot because it's almost impossible not to know. If he did know, he's an idiot for being a fascist AND thinking he can get away with it.

Yeah I can't help but agree with all of this, the guy was just an idiot all around.

There's a reason for doing everything and some retarded *bleep* does a Hitler salute? Who knew WWII is still so well known these days. ADOLF HITLER?!?

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Either way, he's a *bleep*ing idiot. If he didn't know what he meant, he's an idiot because it's almost impossible not to know. If he did know, he's an idiot for being a fascist AND thinking he can get away with it.

It's a little suspect, but I gotta say looking at the video it looks like a fairly natural gesture, a cross of a raised fist of triumph and waving to someone, it only lasts for about 5 seconds, and it does look like it's directed at someone specific. I guess his injured teammate on the bench? Honestly, the idea a person can have their career guillotined without even giving it some due process is a far more potent gesture of fascism than any salute or symbol. I mean the Nazis would take people away if they just said that business was bad, and how bloodthirsty are people now to condemn someone on the slightest excuse?

It's either heat of the moment gesture pointing towards his team mate or his crowd, or he's a genuine fascist. I'm more willing to lean on heat of the moment gesture to be honest. His talk of saying he didn't know what it meant is bull though. Everyone knows what it means, but I think that was his first reaction to defending himself which probably sounded reasonable in his head.

Of course none of us are really are going to know if he's a genuine fascist (this is probably the first time most of us are hearing about him) unless the media follows him, and find him at some cult meeting, lol. Which is actually going to be likely considering everyone's going to be interested like, but they're more than likely going to find nothing more about this.

So basically the only thing that happened is that some guys career internationally (and potentially club wise) is ruined, because of some heat of the moment thing where he didn't think straight.

Well said though, Chelski! Haha, funny thing is AEK started as a club of Istanbul based Greeks, their K stands for Konstantinoupoli. Wouldn't expect refugees to be fascists!

What I've read he said afterwards, he did it to make the crowd go wild because he had seen those Golden Dawn lads do it and thought it would be a good idea before the match? Oh, and his club was also in danger of losing the three points they gained from the match which is retarded.

Stupid gesture, granted, but major overreaction overall. Fyrestorm said it best:

Honestly, the idea a person can have their career guillotined without even giving it some due process is a far more potent gesture of fascism than any salute or symbol. I mean the Nazis would take people away if they just said that business was bad, and how bloodthirsty are people now to condemn someone on the slightest excuse?

Couldn't have said it better myself. There's really no greater invasion of freedom than punishing someone just for expressing something, even if what they're expressing is completely despicable.

Honestly, the idea a person can have their career guillotined without even giving it some due process is a far more potent gesture of fascism than any salute or symbol. I mean the Nazis would take people away if they just said that business was bad, and how bloodthirsty are people now to condemn someone on the slightest excuse?

Couldn't have said it better myself. There's really no greater invasion of freedom than punishing someone just for expressing something, even if what they're expressing is completely despicable.

While that's true, the player was a direct representation of his team and ultimately his country.

Also considering that this is Greece, I'm certain they don't need any more problems than what they're currently dealing with right now.