I am a 19-year-old volunteer firefighter living in New York. I also own an AR-15 rifle that is ban compliant. This means that I have spent well over a thousand dollars buying and modifying the rifle to make it legal in NY State, something that people in other states with less violent crime do not need to do. My AR-15 is the best home defense weapon possible for me to own in NY. As I am not yet 21, I cannot apply for a permit to purchase a pistol. Even so, I believe that my rifle is perfect for me. I hope I never need to use it to protect myself or those I love, but I know that it is the best possible firearm to do so with. Why does a person need a semi-automatic rifle with a magazine that contains over 10 rounds? It is because it is the best thing available for me to protect myself and my family with. As a firefighter, I feel that all first responders should have the best and most protective gear and tools . . .

Even if I was not a firefighter, didnt Governor Cuomo say in his State of the State speech that all citizens are first responders? I am the person that goes into your house when it is burning, so why should I not be able to protect myself in the best way possible? A semiautomatic rifle in .223 caliber is the best tool for a citizen to protect oneself at home against a violent person.

Why a semiautomatic rifle? There are several reasons why I believe that a semi-automatic rifle, specifically one in .223 caliber, is the best defensive weapon at home. Here is why:

It has been shown that a rifle shooting .223 is much less likely to cause collateral damage when compared to a shotgun or even a pistol shooting most common calibers. This means that a .223 bullet carries much less energy after going through a wall or window than a pistol bullet or a shotgun pellet. In the event of a missed shot, a .223 rifle is less dangerous than almost any other effective firearm. The round is also fairly small, much smaller than most other common rifle rounds, allowing for a person to easily fire without losing control of the weapon.

Also, because NY State forces law abiding citizens to swap a flash hider for a muzzle brake, my rifle is even more controllable. Basically, a muzzle brake reduces felt recoil and muzzle climb whereas a flash hider reduces the flash when firing, lessening the damage to a persons vision in darkness. NY outlaws flash hiders. An AR-15 with a muzzle brake is perfect for most people, including women because it has less recoil than a handgun yet is more powerful and safe.

A shotgun has massive recoil and easily goes through walls and kills the people on the other side. A shotgun also fires multiple pellets that spread out when fired, greatly increasing the chances of injuring or killing any people behind the target. The semi-automatic in .223 is safer to use than a pistol or a shotgun.

An AR-15 or other semiautomatic rifle is simply more manageable to use in a house than most other rifles or shotguns. Most AR-15s, such as mine, have 16 inch barrels, and are considerably shorter than a shotgun. My rifle is 36 inches long. Most common shotguns have a barrel length of 26 inches and an overall length of 48 inches. A shorter rifle is much easier to use in a house and has much less area for a violent criminal to grab if attempting to take my weapon from me.

The pistol grip that is commonly pointed at as an evil feature also greatly increases my ability to maintain control over my rifle, both when shooting and in the event of a violent criminal trying to take it from me as I protect those I love. And no, it does not allow for accurate spray firing from the hip. Having a pistol grip would make my rifle illegal if the upcoming ban passes.

Why else is a rifle similar to the AR-15 such a superior home defense firearm?

Attachments. The design of an AR-15 allows for a person to mount a staggering variety of attachments to it. For example, my rifle has a holographic sight and a flashlight on it. Both of these things increase the safety of all people near me if I ever needed to protect myself and my family. My sight greatly helps me aim accurately in the dark or in bright sunlight. Most shotguns and many rifles are not able to have optics such as holographic sights mounted, making accurate and safe use in the dark extremely difficult and slow. The flashlight enables me to identify anyone in the dark, completely eliminating the possibility of friendly fire. Once again, most firearms cannot mount a flashlight.

The final advantage is the ability to use a magazine. I can easily check to make sure that I have ammo in my rifle. I can also easily swap for a full magazine if I do not. My magazines, which were rather costly to purchase because of NY ban on high capacity magazines produced after 1994 hold 20 rounds.

Why so many? My question to you is: would you rather have more than you need or not enough? Even if all I had were 10 round magazines, the fact that it can accept detachable magazines would ban my home defense weapon if the upcoming ban happens.

I have shot roughly 2500 rounds this year through my rifle and am completely comfortable with it. I have not injured, killed, or threatened anyone with it.

I used my own money to purchase and train with my rifle. I am a firefighter who doesnt get paid to save people. I use the best possible tools available to protect you and your loved ones in an emergency, so why shouldnt I be allowed to use the best tools available to protect myself and my loved ones?

I watched Ben Shapiro on Piers Morgan’s CNN show last night and to watch a Liberal’s mindset on display is fascinating.

Piers could not believe that any rational citizen would believe it’s government could ever become tyrannical, in the US. I thought it would have been a great time for Ben to say, I can’t buy an AK-47 but Nappy, Holder and Obama were fine giving them to drug cartels.

They want us broke, sick and disarmed. That’s the goal. Monitored, restricted and appeasing to the Ruling Class from our meager station (think Hunger Games-Brave New World-1984).

Obama is a lawless Communist Kenyan Muslim Thug. He cares nothing about our land, our borders, our economy, our faith or our safety. He is truly an anti-American criminal. We will be in camps if the 2nd Amendment is revoked.

nothing wll deter the left from confiscating (AND profitting off of confiscated) guns- Confiscating guns is goign to be a HUGE cash cow for the left, and nothing will prevent them from dissarming law abiding citizens. The left IS goign to ban guns- period-Noone will stand up agaisnt it, and the left will simply keep goign until it’s neaqrly impossible to own even a pellet gun

The Parable of the Foolish Farmer-
After the fox raided the henhouse,
the farmer pulled out all the teeth of his dogs because the fox is a dog with teeth and
because his dogs have teeth too. Only police dogs will be allowed to have teeth,
he stated. That way the hens will be safe.

I read an email that only 3% of the population is needed to overthrow the Government.

If we have 310,000,000 people and say 1/2 are kids under 16 and over 65, less 20,000,000 illegals, who will most likely go back to Mexico or join Government forces against us, we are left with +/- 135,000,000 men and women.

We would need 10 million dedicated people to make this happen against the asshat Commies. They have no reluctance to use our own weapons against us, I feat the most and some soldiers (mainly minority) and the Civilian Force Obama promised would kill some of us.

I am unsure if the military would go door-to-door killing Ma and Pa Kettle, but it could happen. The wildcard is would that 19-year old PVC from Oklahoma City, Bangor or Bakersfield hurt his own countrymen, even if they are not his color or creed?

Hard thoughts, but we knew Obama and the Progressives’ agenda was to make us die early.

“I have been predicting for a long time now, that a second American civil war is coming.”

Yes and when the South cuts off the oil and gas they will surrender in a month. The Yankees forget that the industrial might of this country is now in the South and that the South has risen again. I don’t care how much the financial centers feel about the rest of the country, if you can’t feed yourself your ....ed.

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posted on 01/11/2013 3:31:41 PM PST
by A Strict Constructionist
(We're an Oligrachy...Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)

I’m only 32 years old, but I’m seeing my late teens logic in this kid:

Replacement improved cylinder shotgun barrels of 18-21 inches are readily available for popular models. If not, a competent gunsmith can shorten a barrel for a modest price.

Within effective range, the spread of shot from a shotgun barrel is not that extreme, fist to softball sized spread.

A break/comp does make it more controllable, and obnoxious. Imagine firing that thing indoors, possibly w/o ear-pro. Additionally, the recoil on an AR based platform is minimal, as the barrel/bolt-carrier/receiver extension are all in line. The recoil impulse goes directly into the shoulder.

Yes, AR pattern weapons are awesome platforms, but for home def, I resort to my old 500 ATP Mossberg with the 18” barrel. I don’t believe in chambering a round to let someone know you have a shotgun, that may or may not embolden in intruder.

If a 5-8 round magazine tube of #4 or 00 buck isn’t sufficient for the job at hand, if there is enough of a threat to merit high capacity magazines especially in an HD situation, you REALLY need to think about why there are/were so many people coming into your home in the middle of the night.

I used to believe that a shotgun with wooden furniture would not be seen as an assault weapon, now I’m not so sure.

Finally, granted I see things differently than this kid, I sure do appreciate that he’s not cowering down as a gun owner. We need more like him.

I’m a trapshooter, at our club the pattern boards have to be changed often and were using 12ga 1oz low brass 7s or 8s from about 13 - 15 yards and the boards are 1/2 inch exterior plywood.
I’m ok with them protecting the inside of my house

"Obama is a lawless Communist Kenyan Muslim Thug. He cares nothing about our land, our ntl security, our constitution, our borders, our economy, our faith, or our safety. He is truly an anti-American criminal. We will be in POW camps if the 2nd Amendment is revoked."

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Freeper IbJensen posted: "The Obama regime has constructed an evil, monstrous govt that is the enemy of the people....it is illegitimate and operating far outside the parameters of the Constitution.....this evil entity has built up a support of mentally defective imbeciles---disaffected takers and losers---who look upon the regime as cash-rich Big Daddy."

PARA-MILITARY VOTE-CRAZED DEMOCRATS ARE ON THE MARCH Power-hungry para-military Obama/Democrats w/ patented voter fraud know-how have been empowered by 2012.

PERVERSE CORRUPT DEM THINKING IS REMINSCENT OF THE POST-CIVIL WAR ERA----Carpetbaggers---Northern invaders ----were prominent in Southern politics until 1875, but nearly all left under pressure from paramilitary organizations, then-described in history books as "the military arm of the Democratic Party."

The para-military Obama Dems work openly to violently overthrow established rule......using intimidation and assassination to turn out of office those they could not subjugate.

GENERALISSIMO OBAMA has a litany of remarks about the invisible and permanent powers-that-be (Repubs/conservatives) trying to harm a long list of "govt-dependent losers."

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FREEPER ACTION MEMO---In 1875, Hiram Revels, a Mississippi Republican--and the first African-American US Senator-- wrote to then-Pres Ulysses S. Grant denouncing Northern invaders into the post-Civil War south for manipulating the Black vote for personal benefit, and for keeping alive wartime hatreds. (WIKI)

We need to get someone with integrity----like Cong Allen West (not reelected)----- to write letters to his colleagues, and to the media.

Cong West needs to do the following:

(1) decry the agitation and intimidation tactics being used by Obama's thugs,

(2) expose using hatemongering for personal gain,

(3) emphasize the illegalities WRT making threats,

(4) precpitate investigations into fraud and intimidation upon our electoral/legislative system by hate-mongers groups, and,

(5) determine the scope and dimension of subversion these activities are visiting on US ntl security.

If a 5-8 round magazine tube of #4 or 00 buck isnt sufficient... you REALLY need to think about why there are/were so many people coming into your home in the middle of the night.

A Mossberg 500 is a great weapon for home defense. However, the threat is increasing of home invasions with multiple attackers, heavily armed gangs and cartels, and the increasing use of technology like Obamaphones that can gather a large mob of attackers quickly and at a target simultaneously, etc. There is also the probability that some shots you fire either miss or not stop an attacker. You will may well need more capacity than the Mossberg holds. A high capacity magazine fed rifle or pistol gives you not only more immediate firepower but quick reload capability. That is crucial in a fight to help even the already lop-sided odds against you. Remember, the attackers are always going to attack when they feel they have the advantage, not you.

I used to believe that a shotgun with wooden furniture would not be seen as an assault weapon, now Im not so sure

The British (who have been doing an outstanding job of turning their honest population into helpless rabbits in a barrel) think so. There is no need to assume the people demanding gun control in this country would not go just as far as they and prohibit all firearms in the hands of the free citizenry if they can get away with it.

As fine a weapon as the Mossberg 500 is - and the fact the shotgun has seen effective military use for over 600 years - it does not diminish the fact it is a limited range weapon, not much improved than the British smoothbore muskets used by British regulars during our Revolution. Military technology has moved on. There is little doubt the Founding Fathers intended civilians to be armed with weapons at least as powerful and effective as those carried by a regular military force whom they may have fight and to have the ability to organize and mount an effective resistance to battle any potential tyranny.

As important as the defense of the home is, the Founders were concerned about larger threats, both foreign and domestic, which could enslave our people again if we did not have the means to resist. As the saying goes, the 2nd Amendment is not just about hunting deer. It is also not just about protecting an individual in his private space. It is about keeping our very lives and liberties secure from really BIG threats.

Therefore, modern, military pattern weapons widespread and accessible in the hands of the people is paramount to the survival of the Republic. Today, that would include semi-auto weaponry with high capacity magazines, as well as longer range rifles, first class optics, and even individual body armor. To not have "the best" puts the citizenry at an immediate disadvantage to predatory tyrants with regular armies, trained paramilitary forces, and even armed irregular gangs on their side.

That, of course, is the reason these tyrants want all guns not in their hands or those of their friends banned. It's not about "gun safety" - except insofar as it keeps them safe from effective resistance by an outraged citizenry as they proceed to loot our lives, our liberties, our rights, our property, and put us in the shackles of their own choosing.

That is the elephant in the room both sides are dancing around to avoid mentioning, yet is the main purpose for the 2nd Amendment.

"In a man-to-man fight, the winner is he who has one more round in his magazine" - Erwin Rommel

If a 5-8 round magazine tube of #4 or 00 buck isnt sufficient for the job at hand, if there is enough of a threat to merit high capacity magazines especially in an HD situation, you REALLY need to think about why there are/were so many people coming into your home in the middle of the night.

I saw the interview and while Piers was his normal inane self and Shapiro put forth a valiant effort, IMHO, he did a lot of damage that furthered the misperceptions of reality. He kept admitting the rifle used was an "Assault Weapon," which it clearly is NOT. There should have been more done by way of definitions and nomenclature as well as some side by side comparisons of available firearms.

As we all know the single sharp and defining feature that clearly identifies a TRUE "assault rifle" is that little three position selector switch resting on the left side of most standard American battle rifles we call the selector switch. The position lying to the extreme left of the range of movement is marked "safe," where the firearm cannot discharge. The vertical position is marked "semi" and here it aligns with the civilian AR platform. Here, every single pull of the trigger results in a single projectile exiting the muzzle, just like every single civilian firearm made. The position to the extreme right is marked "full," and this is the feature that indeed makes it a true "assault rifle." The ability to discharge the contents of the magazine with a single pull of the trigger without pause. A machine-gun.

That brings up the follow up point. Machine-guns are not banned for use in this country. All that is required is the payment of a tax and an extensive background check by the ATF and depending on whether you have a trust document you may need the signature of a senior law enforcement official. In any case in all the time since these firearms were controlled in this manner, GCA 1936?? Can't recall specific year.

Anyway in all that time only ONE holder of a lawfully owned and documented full automatic was ever convicted of using that weapon in criminal fashion and he was a law enforcement officer who had access to full auto weaponry anyway. Pretty good way of showing that the issues here aren't the firepower.

These are the points that should be made anytime the liberal left tries to assert their emotionally charged hysteria into the public discourse. Truth and specificity have to be our watchwords.

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posted on 01/12/2013 10:01:27 AM PST
by ExSoldier
(Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)

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