You cant allow any team to win a trophy....but you can give them the best chance possible. United get these chances every year, more than any other club.

Click to expand...

Wow, just wow.

Wasn't it proven recently that out of the top sides in the PL, we get the least amount of penalties? Or how about Chelsea getting an easier start to a season than most others? (Something that's happened again this new season).

Surely Aguero deserves to be at a club that is playing Champions League football? I've read in here that Juventus are a "huge club" and should be mentioned in the same name as the Milans, Real Madrids and Bayerns but what have they won of any significance in the last few years? They can't even fill their own stadium anymore so have had to "downgrade". He's not getting any younger and will want to be playing football for a club that will realistically be challenging for league titles and European Cups i.e. a Chelsea, Manchester United, Real Madrid or Barcelona. I'd even stick my neck out to say that a move to Man City would even benefit him now that they'll be playing Champions League football.

This season for Chelsea he has been shocking, but then again so has the whole team. I'm sure his fortunes will change when they make a few additions to the squad and get a new manager in, especially if it's Hiddink. He'll have a better season next season and of that I have no doubt, but he'll never hit the heights he did with us.

He's not stupid and he's fully aware of our rise as anyone who keeps an eye on us can see, even if they don't want to admit it. I've had so many people at work coming up to me who support Arsenal, Chelsea, the Mancs, QPR, Charlton, West Ham etc all saying to me "you guys are gonna be lethal next season". Torres has left that and it's a bit uncertain with his current club for next season at the moment. They'll get additions no doubt, but will they be the ones they need to help make the team tick? Even if he does get what he wants in the form of a winner's medal, it'll be an empty feeling when he sees his ex-teammates with one too. He said it himself, winning one trophy with us would mean far more than winning four at another club.

The only reason anyone would tell a Liverpool fan his side will be lethal next season is to humour him. I would be shocked if they finish above us or Chelsea. I also expect City and Arsenal will be above them. The might go up a place or two from sixth place but no way will they be lethal.

To be honest I'm indifferent to them since number 19. They just serve as an amusement, nothing else. Even when they beat us last year I wasn't that bothered as I knew we'd steam onto 19 eventually and they'd be scrabbling around for Europa league places again. With the mighty Andy Carroll and co, I can't seen much of a change this year, especially now Dalglish has been given a contract and doesn't have to try as hard anymore

Being one title better than them is not enough. We have to crush the vermin into insignificance. We cannot rest until Liverpool are but a footnote in the annals of footballing history. We must prove ourselves to be not only the most dominant team in England, but in the entire world!

We have been humiliated in 2 Champion League finals with a team who we have a better defence than. If Ferguson had signed more attacking midfielders like Xavi and Iniesta, even if they were not as good as they were, we would have won even more playing very attractive football. I did not say it was frustrating to be a United fan but it has been frustrating that Ferguson had not seen the huge gap in midfield for a player like Silva, Modric, Iniesta...

The best thing is he's talking about himself but genuinely hasn't got a clue that he's doing so. Nothing on that forum has ever managed to symbolise the meltdown quite like him.

Have any conversation with these (Some match going fans have their heads screwed on) 'fans' and all they are interested in are other clubs (Specially Liverpool and Manchester City). They would rather crow and boast than talk about football. Their sole aim is to try and wind up 'the opposition' which makes it funnier when you get someone that has never gone and never will go having a pop at actual fans of other teams that go to the games.

Their midfield isn't strong... but they still won the league fairly comfortabely in the end. I almost feel the way they play doesn't require a strong central midfield, even though that seems like it would be impossible. Gone are the Keane-Scholes days, now they just need their central midfield to keep them ticking over, such is the strength of their defence and wings. Logged

He's just so poor at arguing his points. You can see he's trying to say something that's not all that crazy (it's not that Barca's defence was better than our defence, it's that Barca's midfield/attack were better than our defence,) but he's got no ability to present that argument coherently.

...and then he goes and says something like "(he doesn't) think Young is suited to playing centrally", and you realize he's just a thicko.

I must say reading their thread on Ashley Young i do find it highly amusing how just like they did with Phil Jones they pluck random figures out of their arse pass them off as fact and then seek to argue how we've overpaid for said player, it really is laughable stuff, where do they get this bizarre notion we've paid 20 million for Young from? SSN are reporting the deal around the 15 million mark which includes add ons etc as was the Guardian last night, the newspapers this morning has it the same and apparently a glazer spokesman on ESPN is even claiming the deal to be well below that (11 million), so where has 20 come from? much like with Phil Jones they are blindly inventing random figures to try and ease the pain of missing out on players they wanted and we've got so haha lets pretend they've paid money they actually haven't, idiots.

The irony of all this being this is a forum thats for months claimed we're skint and dont have a pot to piss in, now all of a sudden they to a man are adamant we're spending a combined 40 million plus on Ashley Young and Phil Jones! the best part about it being i doubt they even realise where the irony is there, and you can bet your bottom dollar in the coming days one of these geniuses will come out with the 'United are skint' mantra again.