Mounting an optic? - Boberg Arms | XR9-S | Power. Performance. Prestige.2019-01-21T21:36:53Zhttp://community.bobergarms.com/forum/topics/mounting-an-optic?commentId=2312567%3AComment%3A106162&xg_source=activity&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI have not tried it yet. My "…tag:community.bobergarms.com,2018-07-12:2312567:Comment:1073242018-07-12T18:09:17.063ZMajor Johnsonhttp://community.bobergarms.com/profile/MajorJohnson
<p>I have not tried it yet. My "gun hobby" time has been taken up with other projects lately. I still have not had the opportunity for any actual trigger time with an optic on and handgun and before I touch the irreplaceable Boberg, I first want to shoot somebody else's pistol with an optic and then the next step will probably be to add one to my 1911 to really see how well I like it..</p>
<p>I have not tried it yet. My "gun hobby" time has been taken up with other projects lately. I still have not had the opportunity for any actual trigger time with an optic on and handgun and before I touch the irreplaceable Boberg, I first want to shoot somebody else's pistol with an optic and then the next step will probably be to add one to my 1911 to really see how well I like it..</p> Major Johnson -
Did you ever…tag:community.bobergarms.com,2018-07-04:2312567:Comment:1068442018-07-04T20:20:28.823ZArt Courvillehttp://community.bobergarms.com/profile/ArtCourville
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<p>Did you ever try out a red dot? Just curious . . . </p>
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<p>Did you ever try out a red dot? Just curious . . . </p> That sounds like a good plan.…tag:community.bobergarms.com,2018-03-05:2312567:Comment:1061632018-03-05T19:14:45.916ZArt Courvillehttp://community.bobergarms.com/profile/ArtCourville
<p>That sounds like a good plan. If you like it on the glock, you can swap the optic to the boberg and upgrade the glock, which has better options for a carry gun (i.e. get your slide milled or get a replacement slide with pre-cut mount for the optic and better sights). And while I haven't tried one, there seems to be a consensus that if you want a no-fail optic for the glock, the trijicon optic is probably what you want. If you haven't seen it, the Suarez Warrior Talk forum has a dedicated…</p>
<p>That sounds like a good plan. If you like it on the glock, you can swap the optic to the boberg and upgrade the glock, which has better options for a carry gun (i.e. get your slide milled or get a replacement slide with pre-cut mount for the optic and better sights). And while I haven't tried one, there seems to be a consensus that if you want a no-fail optic for the glock, the trijicon optic is probably what you want. If you haven't seen it, the Suarez Warrior Talk forum has a dedicated subforum for red dot pistols, and it's predominantly glocks.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I haven't found my notes on which adapter I used. At the time I did it, I had a bunch of notes on dovetail dimensions, and I used that to select the adapter, so I never called JP about it. But my experience with JP on other matters is that they are very responsive, so if you contact them my guess is that they will be willing to help. Mostly you will be looking for one with a dovetail that is wider than the boberg dovetail, and IIRC there are only one or two. In a worst case scenario, you could get the gunsmith version of the adapter, which is essentially an uncut block with the right mounting bits on one side and have someone mill out the dovetail shape on the other side.</p> Art, I really appreciate all…tag:community.bobergarms.com,2018-03-04:2312567:Comment:1061622018-03-04T22:49:12.825ZMajor Johnsonhttp://community.bobergarms.com/profile/MajorJohnson
<p>Art, I really appreciate all your advice here. What I think I'm likely to do is buy the sight along with the adapter for my Glock then if I like it, find the right adapter for the Boberg. I'll have to try the dot and circle next to the 8 MOA dot in a LGS that sells both. This is my primary carry/self defense pistol, and while I do like practicing my accuracy while target shooting, the ability to draw and get on target accurately under pressure in a self defense situation is the primary…</p>
<p>Art, I really appreciate all your advice here. What I think I'm likely to do is buy the sight along with the adapter for my Glock then if I like it, find the right adapter for the Boberg. I'll have to try the dot and circle next to the 8 MOA dot in a LGS that sells both. This is my primary carry/self defense pistol, and while I do like practicing my accuracy while target shooting, the ability to draw and get on target accurately under pressure in a self defense situation is the primary consideration. Do you recall which adapter worked for you? Was Jpoint able to provide dimensions for their various adapters so you could choose, or were you able to provide the dimensions you need and have them suggest which to buy? How did you make that choice?</p> When I initially started usin…tag:community.bobergarms.com,2018-03-03:2312567:Comment:1058542018-03-03T14:57:47.840ZArt Courvillehttp://community.bobergarms.com/profile/ArtCourville
<p>When I initially started using a red dot, I was looking for the best combination of reliability, size and cost. The Trijicon red dots have a reputation for being the most robust, and if you want something for a carry gun that you depend on you might want to look at that (but it’s more expense and slightly larger). You can even get Glock slides pre-cut for the Trijicon, which moves it closer to the barrel. But for my use, the Jpoint was the best balance, and the ability to get drop-in…</p>
<p>When I initially started using a red dot, I was looking for the best combination of reliability, size and cost. The Trijicon red dots have a reputation for being the most robust, and if you want something for a carry gun that you depend on you might want to look at that (but it’s more expense and slightly larger). You can even get Glock slides pre-cut for the Trijicon, which moves it closer to the barrel. But for my use, the Jpoint was the best balance, and the ability to get drop-in adapters was a strong point. They are very robust, batteries last a long time and for the most part they work very well. JP also has great customer service and is run by guys who are into shooting sports.</p>
<p>I have both the 4MOA dot and the circle dot. Both are pretty easy to pick up quickly; I’m not sure that the circle does a lot for pistol use (Works better with a rifle), but it’s pretty easy to just ignore the circle and use the center dot. I’ve heard some folks say that the 8MOA dot can be picked up quicker, but you lose some fine accuracy, so it depends on what you preference is.</p>
<p>Depending on what other guns you have, you might want to try a red dot on something that you can get a drop in adapter for and see how you like it before trying to hand-make an adapter for the Boberg. And you can always move it to another gun.</p>
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<p></p> BTW which reticle did you pic…tag:community.bobergarms.com,2018-03-03:2312567:Comment:1060642018-03-03T07:33:23.071ZMajor Johnsonhttp://community.bobergarms.com/profile/MajorJohnson
<p>BTW which reticle did you pick. Are you happy with your choice?</p>
<p>BTW which reticle did you pick. Are you happy with your choice?</p> I have every expectation that…tag:community.bobergarms.com,2018-03-03:2312567:Comment:1059532018-03-03T05:49:06.881ZMajor Johnsonhttp://community.bobergarms.com/profile/MajorJohnson
<p>I have every expectation that a red dot will work for me exactly as you suggest. While I have aimed one in a shop, unfortunately I have never had the opportunity to actually fire one.If it works well, I'll probably switch over to potics for my other pistols. I'm looking for a local range that has one for rental.Did you pick the j point because of the availability of numerous adapter plates or for other reasons?</p>
<p>I have every expectation that a red dot will work for me exactly as you suggest. While I have aimed one in a shop, unfortunately I have never had the opportunity to actually fire one.If it works well, I'll probably switch over to potics for my other pistols. I'm looking for a local range that has one for rental.Did you pick the j point because of the availability of numerous adapter plates or for other reasons?</p> My hands aren’t huge, but the…tag:community.bobergarms.com,2018-03-03:2312567:Comment:1059522018-03-03T05:05:04.509ZArt Courvillehttp://community.bobergarms.com/profile/ArtCourville
<p>My hands aren’t huge, but they aren’t small. The shape of the back of the grip wasn’t comfortable for me, so I re-profiled it by adding a spacer at the top that is held in place by the grip tape. While It’s not an ideal grip, it works better for me than the stock grip.</p>
<p>The big advantage of the red dot (in my opinion, anyway) is that you can focus on it at the same time that you are focusing on the target. As my eyes have gotten older, I find it increasingly difficult to see both…</p>
<p>My hands aren’t huge, but they aren’t small. The shape of the back of the grip wasn’t comfortable for me, so I re-profiled it by adding a spacer at the top that is held in place by the grip tape. While It’s not an ideal grip, it works better for me than the stock grip.</p>
<p>The big advantage of the red dot (in my opinion, anyway) is that you can focus on it at the same time that you are focusing on the target. As my eyes have gotten older, I find it increasingly difficult to see both the sights and the target with traditional sights. The red dot removes that problem. An additional benefit is that you don’t have to be perfectly aligned on the sights for the red dot to work. I have a 1911 with a red dot, and I find it much easier to get a good sight picture with the red dot than with target sights. Tru glo sites are better than target sights, but the red dot is still easier for me. It does take some practice to get used to it, but once you have the knack, I think it’s easier, but not everyone agrees. Oh, one other point: I’m told that if you have significant astigmatism, the dot may not work for you, because it might look Ike a fuzzy cloud instead of a clean dot.</p> Thanks so much, Art. You did…tag:community.bobergarms.com,2018-03-03:2312567:Comment:1061592018-03-03T03:04:30.442ZMajor Johnsonhttp://community.bobergarms.com/profile/MajorJohnson
<p>Thanks so much, Art. You did a beautiful job. It's so nice to see pics of an XR 45 that isnt mine. You must have some pretty good sized hands to want to thicken the backstrap even further with the grip tape.</p>
<p>So, bottom line, does the optic help with getting on target more quickly and accurately? At my age It's a a bit more difficult than it used to be to pick up the rear sight, front sight and target all at the same time, especially in the low light of a range. Much easier…</p>
<p>Thanks so much, Art. You did a beautiful job. It's so nice to see pics of an XR 45 that isnt mine. You must have some pretty good sized hands to want to thicken the backstrap even further with the grip tape.</p>
<p>So, bottom line, does the optic help with getting on target more quickly and accurately? At my age It's a a bit more difficult than it used to be to pick up the rear sight, front sight and target all at the same time, especially in the low light of a range. Much easier outdoors.</p> Here are some pics:
tag:community.bobergarms.com,2018-03-02:2312567:Comment:1061582018-03-02T21:34:52.444ZArt Courvillehttp://community.bobergarms.com/profile/ArtCourville
<p>Here are some pics:…<a href="http://api.ning.com:80/files/D1l*g4-dE-UKWxqmf161K1qlN3gmtAIPqPoE5T8-qdaevKDs5ajBu-G9P5LvT3CZgJhJLknpSK7QhvumljVUiIUM*XRgWTSi/DSC06359.JPG" target="_self"><img class="align-left" src="http://api.ning.com:80/files/D1l*g4-dE-UKWxqmf161K1qlN3gmtAIPqPoE5T8-qdaevKDs5ajBu-G9P5LvT3CZgJhJLknpSK7QhvumljVUiIUM*XRgWTSi/DSC06359.JPG?width=721" width="721"></img></a></p>
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<p>Here are some pics:<a href="http://api.ning.com:80/files/D1l*g4-dE-UKWxqmf161K1qlN3gmtAIPqPoE5T8-qdaevKDs5ajBu-G9P5LvT3CZgJhJLknpSK7QhvumljVUiIUM*XRgWTSi/DSC06359.JPG" target="_self"><img src="http://api.ning.com:80/files/D1l*g4-dE-UKWxqmf161K1qlN3gmtAIPqPoE5T8-qdaevKDs5ajBu-G9P5LvT3CZgJhJLknpSK7QhvumljVUiIUM*XRgWTSi/DSC06359.JPG?width=721" width="721" class="align-left"/></a></p>
<p><a href="http://api.ning.com:80/files/D1l*g4-dE-W5i474MIwPTfECuuafy5R1DxiLnNDmhfLtuN-O7VJJnWbn8O1fMocORCevaUUqk2srw*ncIigFe4XKQOBHBiuP/DSC06361.JPG" target="_self"><img src="http://api.ning.com:80/files/D1l*g4-dE-W5i474MIwPTfECuuafy5R1DxiLnNDmhfLtuN-O7VJJnWbn8O1fMocORCevaUUqk2srw*ncIigFe4XKQOBHBiuP/DSC06361.JPG?width=721" width="721" class="align-left"/></a></p>
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