buttercat- You are GoWiPe, an attack strategy utilizing Golems, Wizards, and Pekka's to hit a base's core. While this attack's effectiveness is mostly useful at Town Hall 8, you are surprisingly the most popular attack strategy in the game. Most Town Hall 9 players still use this you as a strategy even though it makes little sense to use this war attack over 3 star strategies at that level in the game. You are the popular townie. You take one extra vote to lynch. You win with the Town. (Killed NP4)

Since we have a new DP and plurality lynching is in effect, there's no reason to rush and lynch. I don't want us to get straight down to lynching Sapp or ER - that would be a waste of a DP, and they surely aren't everybody's strongest scum-read.

Interesting pro-town move by ER to back off and unvote Sapp at DP's end yesterday. He could easily have let Butters blindly jump on the wagon and kill Sapp, but chose not to. His caution was definitely not a Mafia move, since it seems unlikely (though not impossible) that Sapp and ER are both Mafia. And if ER were Mafia and Sapp town, Sapp's death would have been a great boon.

Butters is a curious kill choice given plurality lynching was in effect. Will have to think about it.

Since its DP 5, I think its justified that Bullish claim. VTL Bullish. In the meanwhile, I want Bsh to give his results, since we know he got them.

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buttercat- You are GoWiPe, an attack strategy utilizing Golems, Wizards, and Pekka's to hit a base's core. While this attack's effectiveness is mostly useful at Town Hall 8, you are surprisingly the most popular attack strategy in the game. Most Town Hall 9 players still use this you as a strategy even though it makes little sense to use this war attack over 3 star strategies at that level in the game. You are the popular townie. You take one extra vote to lynch. You win with the Town. (Killed NP4)

With 9 players remaining it takes 5 votes to make a lynch.DP ends on 12/13/15 @ 1400 cst (2:00 PM).

Plurality lynching is officially in effect.

@mod If a plurality lynch is in effect you cannot have a majority lynch in effect. You must choose one

A plurality lynch implies we can all vote someone and not have them die until the day ends.Having two types of lynchings in effect is both contradictory to the game state as it requires vastly different playstyle and a change in playstyle imho I request that you pick one.

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buttercat- You are GoWiPe, an attack strategy utilizing Golems, Wizards, and Pekka's to hit a base's core. While this attack's effectiveness is mostly useful at Town Hall 8, you are surprisingly the most popular attack strategy in the game. Most Town Hall 9 players still use this you as a strategy even though it makes little sense to use this war attack over 3 star strategies at that level in the game. You are the popular townie. You take one extra vote to lynch. You win with the Town. (Killed NP4)

With 9 players remaining it takes 5 votes to make a lynch.DP ends on 12/13/15 @ 1400 cst (2:00 PM).

Plurality lynching is officially in effect.

@mod If a plurality lynch is in effect you cannot have a majority lynch in effect. You must choose one

A plurality lynch implies we can all vote someone and not have them die until the day ends.Having two types of lynchings in effect is both contradictory to the game state as it requires vastly different playstyle and a change in playstyle imho I request that you pick one.

This is not my understanding of plurality lynching. Maybe you have played in a game where it worked that way, that is not how I do plurality lynching.

The way plurality lynching works (how I understand it), is that a majority vote can be reached at any time in the DP. The plurality rule only becomes effective if the time limit expires. At that point the person with the most votes at the end of the phase dies. Even if that isn't how it's supposed to work (I think it is), that is how it had to work mechanically in this game based on some of the roles implemented (both players are dead, so I can mention lucky and butter).

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1. I have my flight back to the States tomorrow. I will drive to Munich, fly to London, wait at London, and then fly to Dulles, and drive home. This whole process will give me limited access to wi-fi for the next 24 to 36 hours. I will be as active as possible, but no promises. If need be, I can take pics of my boarding passes to confirm.

2. I chose Butters because I felt that he would be the most likely NK. Mafia likely though I'd watch HPG, because he was pretty much confirmed town. However, as only a 2x Cop who used both his shots, he had also lost a lot of his town utility, and Butters was also firm town in my mind, who still had utility. Mafia wants to get rid of townies with usefulness to town, esp. townies that are hard to mislynch for being popular and townread. ER, Saph, myself, Smither, Bullish, Valo, and Logic either all do not post much, are off our game, and/or are potential mislynch targets. It makes little sense to kill us...Logic, as a claimed tracker, could've been a target, but I felt that mafia would more likely pursue a solid townread over someone whose results and affiliation could be questioned. Butters was, in my mind, the obvious person to watch.

3. Khaos is obviously not the Seraph Knight. So, Smithereens probably did block the NK, which makes me townread him. It is also likely that Khaos is godfather; if he isn't, I will be suspicious of HPG.

Now is the time when you need to either trust my results, and lynch the person who visited the NK, or you don't. You cannot explain away the NK by a ninja, because, as a Seraph Knight, Khaos should not have been able to visit anyone. Look at Khaos's illogic last DP; he pushed a lynch on me for dumb reasons, and pushed a lynch on Smithers as well, probably because he was worried about Smithers stopping the NK. So, can we please lynch Khaos?

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You FOS'd me last DP and got a inno on Khaos...why are you voting him? Just curious...

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Because their is nine players and I have no problem with him dying as he has expressed a general lack of interest and that he isn't gonna vote. I say kill the fvcker. This is perfect. He flips inno we kill you no problem.

4-3 by my count if there are really 4 scum. If there are 4 scum it is so scum sided imo. Whatever.

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I has info for town too: If Khaos is guilty, then that means Endark is necessarily (as far as I'm concerned) the player who attempted the shot NP2. As either there was no kill that night because I was being protected or because I stopped the kill.

Also, the mod expressly and explicitly confirmed in no uncertain terms to me that I can block the NK, so that's how I think things went.

At 12/11/2015 12:10:36 AM, headphonegut wrote:So two scum down coolcoolcool.

Everyone can feel free to ask the same question smithereens asked the mod.

Actually, the mod is extremely resistant to giving out info that doesn't pertain to your role. I tried asking several round-about questions in order to find out if I could block the NK and got shut down the moment I asked about gun carrying people being a visitation role I could block.

and then I just outright asked if I can block the NK and got a Yes. So it's unlikely you'll be able to get that same confirmation for me.

You FOS'd me last DP and got a inno on Khaos...why are you voting him? Just curious...

'Night!

Because their is nine players and I have no problem with him dying as he has expressed a general lack of interest and that he isn't gonna vote. I say kill the fvcker. This is perfect. He flips inno we kill you no problem.

4-3 by my count if there are really 4 scum. If there are 4 scum it is so scum sided imo. Whatever.

Actually, HPG, that is not what I said. In fact, I did vote.As usual, your lack of comprehension is getting the better of you.I specifically said "let's see if he can get a lynch without my vote". I never said I wouldn't vote.

And, yeah, I have no interest in a game where people are going to follow roles blindly, and then ignore them blindly. In a game where I soft claim, and people don't care. And in a game where we cannot even get a lynch unless a role directs us, yeah, I have a big problem with that.

A 1 for 1 trade by mafia is 100% legit, given the fact that, with plurality lynching in play, they can still lynch with just themselves, and I'd wager they are only one away.

And, let's be clear.......You think that I bread crumbed my role, and I am scum.You think I pushed for Lucky's lynch DP1, and am scum.You think I pushed for ER's lynch since DP3....HARD, and I am scum.

I guess I am just bussing my teammates, which makes perfect sense.....given the fact that, as the game goes on, it becomes harder and harder to explain why I am still alive.

Tomorrow we should be at 3v5 Khaos. So MYLO is tomorrow not today. If you flip inno we know who to lynch. So your death is going to kill at least one scummy. Also, if you flip guilty we know ER is guilty due to NP2.

Of course, I suppose, there could be a bus driver.But, if there were, I'd still be suspecting bsh1, for his scum reading me and wanting to test my claim.

We all know that if I die, Smithers is next, right?And, in case you haven't realized it yet, Smithers is de facto cop. So, I say again, what sense does a godfather make, if it doesn't protect against Smithers' role, and a 2x cop is hardly need for one.

At 12/11/2015 12:10:36 AM, headphonegut wrote:So two scum down coolcoolcool.

Everyone can feel free to ask the same question smithereens asked the mod.

Actually, the mod is extremely resistant to giving out info that doesn't pertain to your role. I tried asking several round-about questions in order to find out if I could block the NK and got shut down the moment I asked about gun carrying people being a visitation role I could block.

and then I just outright asked if I can block the NK and got a Yes. So it's unlikely you'll be able to get that same confirmation for me.

Hmmmmmm I don't buy it. He gave you the info it's not a state secret. I already asked. If he tells me I can't know I'll assume you're lying.

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At 12/11/2015 12:24:24 AM, Khaos_Mage wrote:And, let's be clear.......You think that I bread crumbed my role, and I am scum.You think I pushed for Lucky's lynch DP1, and am scum.You think I pushed for ER's lynch since DP3....HARD, and I am scum.

I guess I am just bussing my teammates, which makes perfect sense.....given the fact that, as the game goes on, it becomes harder and harder to explain why I am still alive.

In Australian mafia, TUF might recall I bussed each scum mate one by one until I was the last one left. There were 3 of us and I got lynched at the last Dp, as opposed to earlier in the game. Point being I was mafia, and did all the things you're saying mafia don't do. So I kinda don't mind not believing it.