Good price indeed. Just bear in mind that it won't be the Hitachi quality of old, but probably another Vestel TV.

I still haven't forgiven Hitachi for their refusal to help with the endless problems I had with a Hitachi / Vestel TV.

9th Feb 2017

does it support Netflix 4k does anyone know?

9th Feb 2017

caspre12

does it support Netflix 4k does anyone know?

​can't see why not, Netflix app installed should do 4k

9th Feb 2017

caspre12

does it support Netflix 4k does anyone know?

The description on Argos page says it does have netflix. Yes it is a Vestel tv, not the best, but price will be a big factor in peoples choices. I have a Finlux "vestel" tv which has probably very similar specs and its Netflix is 4k

Edited by: "Dealdealluvadeal" 9th Feb 2017

9th Feb 2017

I take it its the same quality at the asda 55" for £349

9th Feb 2017

caspre12

I take it its the same quality at the asda 55" for £349

From googleing I believe these are Vestel sets as well, so will be similar quality. These tvs are not terrible for the price, the main problem for me is reliablity but you could be lucky. As I would be more afraid of having problems than a more expensive brand, I would consider where I purchase the tv, who will sort out any problems easier, without fuss, without going through the manufacturer etc.

9th Feb 2017

Run to the hills

9th Feb 2017

I bought the 43" model last year the apps side of it is complete **** i use it in the bedroom with now tv plugged in....

9th Feb 2017

i am put off by these. i had a gorgeous 1080p samsung 22" I got from amazon. was great for computers. then I smashed it so got a "toshiba" same size screen 1080p but text is illegible on all settings vs crystal clear on the samsung. The "toshiba" was Vestel and so I am scarred by that. If you can see it and test it out then great but once bitten, twice shy.

9th Feb 2017

jameshothothot

i am put off by these. i had a gorgeous 1080p samsung 22" I got from … i am put off by these. i had a gorgeous 1080p samsung 22" I got from amazon. was great for computers. then I smashed it so got a "toshiba" same size screen 1080p but text is illegible on all settings vs crystal clear on the samsung. The "toshiba" was Vestel and so I am scarred by that. If you can see it and test it out then great but once bitten, twice shy.

​ps my use for tvs is for computing and gaming and occasional netflix. I currently use a samsung 46" tv and wonderful but only 1080p

9th Feb 2017

jameshothothot

i am put off by these. i had a gorgeous 1080p samsung 22" I got from … i am put off by these. i had a gorgeous 1080p samsung 22" I got from amazon. was great for computers. then I smashed it so got a "toshiba" same size screen 1080p but text is illegible on all settings vs crystal clear on the samsung. The "toshiba" was Vestel and so I am scarred by that. If you can see it and test it out then great but once bitten, twice shy.

​i had a Dixon's own brand which are similar in performance to the toshiba one too so same low quality displays

9th Feb 2017

Netflix 4k works well , so does you tube - but support is no existent as is trying to get any new apps - nothing at all about amazon video sadly

9th Feb 2017

LOUGHBORO.GUY

Run to the hills

...Run for your life.

9th Feb 2017

ElGato

...Run for your life.

I'm galloping hard on the plain......

9th Feb 2017

accvio

Good price indeed. Just bear in mind that it won't be the Hitachi quality … Good price indeed. Just bear in mind that it won't be the Hitachi quality of old, but probably another Vestel TV.I still haven't forgiven Hitachi for their refusal to help with the endless problems I had with a Hitachi / Vestel TV.

I used to run the helpdesk for Hitachi (it's outsourced to my old employer) and I can tell you we were just as frustrated. The bottom line is that Argos own exclusive rights to the Hitachi name for TVs - you cannot buy them anywhere else (officially) - so it's Argos that have to deal with any hardware issues (as is the case with most HW companies tbf). As others have mentioned, it's not even a Hitachi TV - they don't make TVs anymore, Argos own the right to badge a Vestel up as Hitachi.

In terms of technical support (beyond just the standard help) there was nothing we could do except log the tickets and send them to our Account Manager...I think the only thing we ever got them to do was send us a bunch of HDMI > DVI adapters that their earliest HD [ready] TVs needed in order to take an HDMI input.

I left the company over 4 years ago so perhaps it's changed since then, but I imagine it's much the same - again though, we were just as annoyed as the customers calling in. I know that doesn't help you but I did just want to let you know that the people you spoke to (assuming it was in the last 6 or so years) were also frustrated at how little power we had.

9th Feb 2017

Terrible motion blur on screen - I returned mine

9th Feb 2017

sh20

I used to run the helpdesk for Hitachi (it's outsourced to my old … I used to run the helpdesk for Hitachi (it's outsourced to my old employer) and I can tell you we were just as frustrated. The bottom line is that Argos own exclusive rights to the Hitachi name for TVs - you cannot buy them anywhere else (officially) - so it's Argos that have to deal with any hardware issues (as is the case with most HW companies tbf). As others have mentioned, it's not even a Hitachi TV - they don't make TVs anymore, Argos own the right to badge a Vestel up as Hitachi. In terms of technical support (beyond just the standard help) there was nothing we could do except log the tickets and send them to our Account Manager...I think the only thing we ever got them to do was send us a bunch of HDMI > DVI adapters that their earliest HD [ready] TVs needed in order to take an HDMI input.I left the company over 4 years ago so perhaps it's changed since then, but I imagine it's much the same - again though, we were just as annoyed as the customers calling in. I know that doesn't help you but I did just want to let you know that the people you spoke to (assuming it was in the last 6 or so years) were also frustrated at how little power we had.

That's very interesting, thanks. The lack of support I had makes sense now.One of the reasons I bought a Hitachi as my first flat-screen TV was that I had an old Hitachi CRT TV that for its day was excellent, and worked for many years. I didn't realize at the time that the rights to the name had changed hands.

It's easy for the consumer to be misled these days - SportsDirect do a good line in buying up previously reputable brands.

I currently have an excellent Panasonic TV (which I believe to be made by Panasonic, perhaps naively!), which I bought from John Lewis so I know I can take it back any time in the first five years.

I'm sure many of these cheap TVs do a good job for the price, and not everyone can afford or wants to spend more than £1000 on a TV but, and I don't usually say this, it seems you get what you pay for in TVs.

9th Feb 2017

Dabstar

​can't see why not, Netflix app installed should do 4k

43" UHD Hitachi not supporting, so I believe is the same **** inside. Internal software run @ 1080p for any apps. YouTube max 30fps. Hitachi is not a old brand, was bought by ARGOS. Is totally no-name brand. In fact Vestel.

9th Feb 2017

jameshothothot

i am put off by these. i had a gorgeous 1080p samsung 22" I got from … i am put off by these. i had a gorgeous 1080p samsung 22" I got from amazon. was great for computers. then I smashed it so got a "toshiba" same size screen 1080p but text is illegible on all settings vs crystal clear on the samsung. The "toshiba" was Vestel and so I am scarred by that. If you can see it and test it out then great but once bitten, twice shy.

I use a cheap 1080p DigiMate 22" TV for my computer monitor. The display is fuzzy using HDMI, but perfect using VGA. I found the same thing with my 1080p Fujitsu 22" monitor. Never did get round to finding out why the HDMI display was so bad, but if your Toshiba has a VGA connector, try using that instead of HDMI.

10th Feb 2017

My grandfather was stupid enough to buy this the last time it was on offer.it has Smart ability, buts its not Wifi! Pain in the ass!also, the remote is a horrible layout, cannot even see a "MUTE" button on it!

10th Feb 2017

Lack of app updates and they are rubbish

10th Feb 2017

3guesses

I use a cheap 1080p DigiMate 22" TV for my computer monitor. The display … I use a cheap 1080p DigiMate 22" TV for my computer monitor. The display is fuzzy using HDMI, but perfect using VGA. I found the same thing with my 1080p Fujitsu 22" monitor. Never did get round to finding out why the HDMI display was so bad, but if your Toshiba has a VGA connector, try using that instead of HDMI.

​thanks. that is an interesting tip. will have to test it out! i remember getting a budget aoc monitor in the end and was crystal clear. my eyesite is bad so I am sensitive to how clear displays are!

My grandfather was stupid enough to buy this the last time it was on … My grandfather was stupid enough to buy this the last time it was on offer.it has Smart ability, buts its not Wifi! Pain in the ass!also, the remote is a horrible layout, cannot even see a "MUTE" button on it!

This TV does have Wi-Fi.

Good TV for £299, but as mentioned app's are useless apart from Youtube & Netflix.

Also recommend buying a soundbar if you purchase this.

10th Feb 2017

For the price, it can get away with not having HDR.

However, absolutely no excuse for it being 50hz only.

10th Feb 2017

I'd stay away from this, another generic Vestel TV

10th Feb 2017

TwentyTwo

For the price, it can get away with not having HDR.However, absolutely no … For the price, it can get away with not having HDR.However, absolutely no excuse for it being 50hz only.

From the Q&A on Argos's site:"What is the Refresh Rate off the TV? (Not the Motion Rate)I was wondering if this TV had a 60Hz Refresh Rate as a 50Hz "Motion" Rate does not seem right. Why have a TV with HDMI 2.0 and the panel itself not be able to output 4K 60FPS?1 AnswerArron

Hello Arron, thank you for your question. I can confirm that the Hitachi 48 Inch Ultra HD Smart LED TV has 60Hz compatibility. You can view the full specifications in the manual on the product support page. Thank you for using Argos Q and A."

Of course that's Argos talking so maybe a pinch of salt needed but I can't see why they'd make a 50Hz only TV.

10th Feb 2017

This one or Celcus or Polaroid??

Edited by: "bobo53" 10th Feb 2017

10th Feb 2017

At the very least, this TV will have a 60Hz native panel - for the price, size and it being of Vestel stock I wouldn't expect anything more. Its all smoke and mirrors anyway when it comes to motion rate, our Samsung living room TV has something like 1400hz motion rate but the panel is only 200Hz native.

Some TV's use Special backlight trickery to give the effect of a higher refresh rate but I've not seen it on a budget Vestel or its very rare.

10th Feb 2017

bobo53

This one or Celcus or Polaroid??

this, but we own 2 smaller celcus tv's and have had 0 issue with them

Edited by: "max84" 10th Feb 2017

10th Feb 2017

bobbyman1

Terrible motion blur on screen - I returned mine

Don't complain about blurring, looks amazing, after 10 sec of dispose static picture, the ghost stay for at least 1 min. For me is about 5% of original brightens, but I'm not an expert, clearly I can read everything form ghost :D:D:D Much better deal was HD 50" for £250 @ black Friday 2005, still work fine.

10th Feb 2017

Hitachi make drills. Nuff said.

10th Feb 2017

ADIDASADDICT

Hitachi make drills. Nuff said.

Huh? Regardless, they didn't make this TV. Even more regardless, their drills are well built and reliable, unlike this TV.

10th Feb 2017

accvio

One of the reasons I bought a Hitachi as my first flat-screen TV was that … One of the reasons I bought a Hitachi as my first flat-screen TV was that I had an old Hitachi CRT TV that for its day was excellent, and worked for many years. I didn't realize at the time that the rights to the name had changed hands.It's easy for the consumer to be misled these days - SportsDirect do a good line in buying up previously reputable brands.

And of course that was exactly the point of this transaction: misleading customers to believe they get "Hitachi" quality from Argos. Both Argos and Hitachi are complicit, and customers are right to be annoyed. Once you start filleting a brand, it goes downhill.

10th Feb 2017

MrPuddington

And of course that was exactly the point of this transaction: misleading … And of course that was exactly the point of this transaction: misleading customers to believe they get "Hitachi" quality from Argos. Both Argos and Hitachi are complicit, and customers are right to be annoyed. Once you start filleting a brand, it goes downhill.

Panasonic did this until recently with most of their cheaper offerings. Its seems they've ditched Vestel this year entirely and everything's manufactured in house. It cant have done their brand any good, some Vestel models they didn't even support or acknowledge on their website. Granted they tried a little harder with Panasonic, Vestel customised menu's to look like Panasonic's but the general subpar build quality aside, the dead give away was when customers went to cast YouTube or whatever to their "Panasonic" Smart TV only to find it was named Vestel. Ooops.

10th Feb 2017

This is a quality TV.

11th Feb 2017

MrPuddington

And of course that was exactly the point of this transaction: misleading … And of course that was exactly the point of this transaction: misleading customers to believe they get "Hitachi" quality from Argos. Both Argos and Hitachi are complicit, and customers are right to be annoyed. Once you start filleting a brand, it goes downhill.

Panasonic did this until recently with most of their cheaper offerings. … Panasonic did this until recently with most of their cheaper offerings. Its seems they've ditched Vestel this year entirely and everything's manufactured in house. It cant have done their brand any good, some Vestel models they didn't even support or acknowledge on their website. Granted they tried a little harder with Panasonic, Vestel customised menu's to look like Panasonic's but the general subpar build quality aside, the dead give away was when customers went to cast YouTube or whatever to their "Panasonic" Smart TV only to find it was named Vestel. Ooops.

Didn't know Panasonic did Vestel rebadged too. What a shame.

11th Feb 2017

freakstyler

Panasonic did this until recently with most of their cheaper offerings. … Panasonic did this until recently with most of their cheaper offerings. Its seems they've ditched Vestel this year entirely and everything's manufactured in house.

I am not happy with that, but you have to expect it in the value segment. Even iPhones are made in China, but at least there is some element of oversight and quality control. Panasonic noticed the lack of quality, and they have responded to it.

However, Hitachi has sold of the brand. There is absolutely nothing Hitachi can do, even if the TVs are the worst ever made, hack your internet, and set your living room on fire. That is quite a risk for the brand, because the customer will not distinguish between Hitachi the TV brand and other Hitachi devices. Usually this filleting only happens with companies that go bust (Telefunken, Technicolour etc).

11th Feb 2017

ra786

Didn't know Panasonic did Vestel rebadged too. What a shame.

You would be surprised how many different brands are rebadged Vestel TV's.See list below of just some the 35+ difrent brands I could find: