now He is Deticated ENOUGH….­.to cover up the Rape of thousands of little children..­.

He & hitler are alot alike…..

Very very deticated.­……

]]>By: Johnhttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/25/8347/comment-page-1#comment-50819
Sat, 03 Oct 2009 04:18:25 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=8347#comment-50819I think that the Roman Catholic Church is totally out-to-lunch on the issue of gay rights, including same sex marriage and adoption, which thankfully is legal here in B.C., Canada where I live, as their arguments don’t hold water any more. You can find homosexuality that isn’t frowned upon in the Bible and I haven’t seen any quote of Jesus condemning it. Altar girls were finally allowed and so should women priests. I also feel if priests were allowed to be married to whichever sex they choose, there would be a lot more priests and most likely less arrests/cover-ups being made for underage porn and/or pedophile charges.
]]>By: Anton Foljambehttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/25/8347/comment-page-1#comment-32178
Sat, 31 Jan 2009 11:00:24 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=8347#comment-32178I didn’t say it was. I said that Bishop Williamson has over the years proven to be a formidable defender of traditional Western values. Perhaps you are unaware of all the other issues he has spoken out about. This particular one has been seized on by the media because of its controversiality.
]]>By: Timothy Kincaidhttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/25/8347/comment-page-1#comment-32149
Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:35:24 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=8347#comment-32149Anton,

I reject the notion that anti-Semitism or holocaust revisionism is a traditional value of Western civilization.

]]>By: Anton Foljambehttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/25/8347/comment-page-1#comment-32132
Sat, 31 Jan 2009 00:14:11 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=8347#comment-32132I am pleased to note that you have been more restrained in your criticism of Bishop Williamson than many other blogs, which have resorted to personal abuse and name-calling.

None-the-less, I do need to take issue with your description of Bp. Williamsons’s letters and blog as “lunacy”. The Bishop is a courageous defender of traditional values and Western civilization. Yes, he’s a conservative, yes he’s politically incorrect, but he doesn’t claim to be otherwise. His charicature of himself on his blog as a dinosaur in bishop’s garb is evidence of a sense of humour, and a humility that we would do well to emulate.

I for one encourage Bishop Williamson to keep speaking the truth as he sees it.

]]>By: Gene Jarrhttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/25/8347/comment-page-1#comment-31779
Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:27:01 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=8347#comment-31779Get a load of who DOES approve of Williamson… this guy quotes the good bishop at length, too:http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=144886

Oh, and the comment on the Stormfront site links to a sermon written by Bishop Williamson, where he says:
“”There was not one Jew killed in the gas chambers. It was all lies, lies, lies. The Jews created the Holocaust so we would prostrate ourselves on our knees before them and approve of their new State of Israel…. Jews made up
the Holocaust, Protestants get their orders from the devil, and the Vatican has sold its soul to liberalism.”.

…but don’t bother trying to follow that link. The original article (first preached as part of a sermon delivered in 1989 in Sherbrooke, Canada), has been removed, and the site where it was posted, http://www.fatherfeeney.org/bp-williamson/bp-williamson.htm no longer exists; the site is no longer available via the “Wayback Machine” search engine, and it has been scrubbed from the Google cache as well.

]]>By: Johnhttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/25/8347/comment-page-1#comment-31658
Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:49:54 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=8347#comment-31658Sadly, it will take time before the Church comes around and accepts gay people fully as they are. I’m afraid it will not be in my lifetime tho.

I’m afraid you are probably right. I doubt such will happen for at least a century AFTER gays are fully accepted in civil society. Perhaps this helps explain in part why I am a lapsed Catholic myself…

]]>By: Williamhttp://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2009/01/25/8347/comment-page-1#comment-31632
Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:12:05 +0000http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/?p=8347#comment-31632The question of whether the Holocaust took place or not is purely a matter of history, not of doctrine; so the fact that it clearly did is not a part of Catholic doctrine. There is therefore no obvious reason why Uncle Joseph should take Williamson’s erroneous and eccentric beliefs on a matter of history into account when deciding to lift the excommunication.

As Jim said, “Williamson’s newsletters are a treasure-trove of paranoia, nutty conspiracies and general all-around lunacy.” So it comes as no surprise that he should be a Holocaust denier.

These Lefebvrists tend to be cranks who live in worlds of their own. I’m told that many of the French ones are looking forward to the return of the French monarchy, and that some of the Austrian ones dream of the restoration of the Austrian Empire. I’ve never knowingly come across any Lefebvrists in Italy, but if there are any, then doubtless many of them are pining for the days of Mussolini.

As I understand Church teaching on this matter, which I strongly disagree with, a same-sex orientation cannot be “embraced” because it is “intrinsically disordered”. It can be accepted as a reality one must live with and of course having such an orientation is not sinful. That is where Williamson seems to stray from Catholic teaching. I’m not certain what level of teaching this would fall under so whether this error on Williamson’s part is worthy of excommunication under Canon Law I do not know.

Trust me, I know. I’m a former Catholic (baptized and confirmed at 18) which has excommunicated himself from the church when the CC made it clear it was not unjust to discriminate against gays in certain areas of employment back in the early 90’s. It was then I renounced the church and ever since then have believed the church has been in error regarding gays.

If you look at Roman Catholic Church history, the CC has been in error in a great many areas. Galileo and the Spanish Inquisition just to name two examples. I now see the church as being horribly corrupt and very political in worldly affairs. Which is nothing new since its history is filled with such examples. I praise God leading me out of organized religion. He now leads my life rather than the decrees of any Pope.

Sadly, it will take time before the Church comes around and accepts gay people fully as they are. I’m afraid it will not be in my lifetime tho.