Comments on: Crikey says: G-G Cosgrove faces tricky Indonesian relationshttp://www.crikey.com.au/2014/01/23/crikey-says-g-g-cosgrove-faces-tricky-indonesian-relations/
now with extra sourceTue, 03 Mar 2015 18:05:12 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1By: Ken Lamberthttp://www.crikey.com.au/2014/01/23/crikey-says-g-g-cosgrove-faces-tricky-indonesian-relations/comment-page-1/#comment-267712
Ken LambertThu, 23 Jan 2014 12:26:23 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=420938#comment-267712Menadue's soft left nonsense is one of the reasons we are so readily abused by Indonesian Govt 'outrage'.
Breaching Indo sovereignty is code for 'buggering up my nice little earner'.
People smugglers can only operate through Indonesia because of corruption of Indonesian officials at many levels.
Cosgrove will command some respect due to his past Timor history and Abbott' s firm approach to crushing the smugglers business model will prove to the Indonesians that corruption won't pay Australian rewards.
That should encourage the 'goodies' who want to run a clean Indo administration and discourage the 'baddies' who take the bribes.Menadue’s soft left nonsense is one of the reasons we are so readily abused by Indonesian Govt ‘outrage’.

People smugglers can only operate through Indonesia because of corruption of Indonesian officials at many levels.

Cosgrove will command some respect due to his past Timor history and Abbott’ s firm approach to crushing the smugglers business model will prove to the Indonesians that corruption won’t pay Australian rewards.

That should encourage the ‘goodies’ who want to run a clean Indo administration and discourage the ‘baddies’ who take the bribes.

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David HandThu, 23 Jan 2014 06:50:32 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=420938#comment-267688This notion that the Abbott government is handling our relationship with Indonesia badly is wishful thinking. Cosgrove will be an asset, not a liability.This notion that the Abbott government is handling our relationship with Indonesia badly is wishful thinking. Cosgrove will be an asset, not a liability.
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Hugh (Charlie) McCollThu, 23 Jan 2014 04:52:00 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=420938#comment-267672On the other hand, Indonesia may not even notice. Certainly Tony Abbott is not about to pay any attention to whether Indonesian sensibilities will be offended. It's not as if diplomatic relations have been severed since the 'war'. Indonesia's soldiers still come here for exercises and 'training' - some of their people probably know Cosgrove personally. Being GG will be a (well deserved) doddle and Abbott will work it to his political advantage - as every PM has since Howard sorted out the Hollingsworth fiasco.On the other hand, Indonesia may not even notice. Certainly Tony Abbott is not about to pay any attention to whether Indonesian sensibilities will be offended. It’s not as if diplomatic relations have been severed since the ‘war’. Indonesia’s soldiers still come here for exercises and ‘training’ - some of their people probably know Cosgrove personally. Being GG will be a (well deserved) doddle and Abbott will work it to his political advantage - as every PM has since Howard sorted out the Hollingsworth fiasco.
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ARThu, 23 Jan 2014 04:23:59 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=420938#comment-267662He is not the first military type in the post but, as it is the C-in-C of our armed forces, given our current Wars on Asylum Seekers, Truth, Science, Decency & Rationality, he'll certainly need all that hard slog experience to keep the troops in fettle.He is not the first military type in the post but, as it is the C-in-C of our armed forces, given our current Wars on Asylum Seekers, Truth, Science, Decency & Rationality, he’ll certainly need all that hard slog experience to keep the troops in fettle.
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graybulThu, 23 Jan 2014 04:03:42 +0000http://www.crikey.com.au/?p=420938#comment-267654Given the Australian Govt. continues to misjudge our Neighbours economic and political status, John Menadue's 'heads-up' reflects both his extensive experience and growing concern that Australia may be 'burning' far to much hard won Goodwill.
That this is happening informs us all, that our Diplomatic fraternity, as with other Departmental advisors' across government, may also be encountering strong political headwinds. It is worrying, that Govt. dialogue is increasingly couched in terms of war, 'goodies and badies' and engagement of military personnel to 'interpret' Govt. policy initiatives. Retired General Cosgrove may not be a good look, or fit, when one considers Indonesia's sensitivities.Given the Australian Govt. continues to misjudge our Neighbours economic and political status, John Menadue’s ‘heads-up’ reflects both his extensive experience and growing concern that Australia may be ‘burning’ far to much hard won Goodwill.
That this is happening informs us all, that our Diplomatic fraternity, as with other Departmental advisors’ across government, may also be encountering strong political headwinds. It is worrying, that Govt. dialogue is increasingly couched in terms of war, ‘goodies and badies’ and engagement of military personnel to ‘interpret’ Govt. policy initiatives. Retired General Cosgrove may not be a good look, or fit, when one considers Indonesia’s sensitivities.
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