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The flying conditions, low (quite low, around 4-5Km/h and sometimes 0Km/h). So at some moments I had to row quite a bit to get my TalonUL up there.

I must say I have managed to get the 540's on my TalonUL, but not yet on my Soul I can't seem to get my Soul to flare well enough and still have the possibility of giving further slack to allow the rotation without line tangling...The Soul really asks for a lot of slack in flares and fades and I don't have sufficient arms trajectory and forward stepping capacity...

I must say I have managed to get the 540's on my TalonUL, but not yet on my Soul I can't seem to get my Soul to flare well enough and still have the possibility of giving further slack to allow the rotation without line tangling...The Soul really asks for a lot of slack in flares and fades and I don't have sufficient arms trajectory and forward stepping capacity...

Just a little feedback.

Your 540 input is a long pull not a quick pop. I know because I do the same thing.

The long pull creates two problems. Again, don't ask me how I know.

- Pulls the kite toward you, creating tip wraps as you can not move forward as fast at your arm pull.

- This is also why the kite starts its rotation (snaps around) quickly then slows to a normal rotatation speed.

A little more practice using small pops and your 540 rotation will perfect all the way through, with no tip wraps.

Your 540 input is a long pull not a quick pop. I know because I do the same thing.

The long pull creates two problems. Again, don't ask me how I know.

- Pulls the kite toward you, creating tip wraps as you can not move forward as fast at your arm pull.

- This is also why the kite starts its rotation (snaps around) quickly then slows to a normal rotatation speed.

A little more practice using small pops and your 540 rotation will perfect all the way through, with no tip wraps.

OK, yes, I see. I must do the pop as in the Prism video: just the wrist, right?I think I can make it with the TalonUL.However, I think my long pull comes from also trying it with the Soul.I feel the Soul needs much, MUCH stronger inputs and my wrist pop just does not seem sufficiently strong...

If you can pancake the kite unevenly, you will have a much higher chance of completing the 540.

Thanks Rudy.But, by unevenly you mean have one wing tip (the one I'm going to pull) closer to me than the other, or have the kite not completely horizontal but a little tilted one way?

If the first, I do try it but it seems like I don't fully achieve it. I do throw my left hand really hard forward (I'm right-handed), while I let my right only get as far as my waist... or at least I try to...

If the second, I then don't see how the turn can be flatter if the kite starts tilted...

He is much more relaxed, if you watch around 2:00 you'll see he is still moving forward after the pop.

The 540 is a hard trick to learn on your own, it took me ages and then one day it just 'clicked'. The trick is to make the whole thing one smooth fluid movement.

Start with both hand behind you, bring both smoothly forward then let your left hand carry on forward, briefly stop your right hand at your waist,( that will make the flare uneven) then pop for the rotation and let the right hand carry on forward while taking a step or two forward. After the rotation bring both hands back together to recover.

The Soul will do nice 540's but being a bigger kite the imput is a bit bigger.. One of my favourites is to dive straight down and then pull a 540 a few feet off the ground.

If you can pancake the kite unevenly, you will have a much higher chance of completing the 540.

Thanks Rudy.But, by unevenly you mean have one wing tip (the one I'm going to pull) closer to me than the other, or have the kite not completely horizontal but a little tilted one way?

If the first, I do try it but it seems like I don't fully achieve it. I do throw my left hand really hard forward (I'm right-handed), while I let my right only get as far as my waist... or at least I try to...

If the second, I then don't see how the turn can be flatter if the kite starts tilted...

If you can give me more tips I'll be grateful.Thanks!

There are two ways to accomplish the uneven pancake and I do both together. Assuming your right hand is the popping hand

1) instead of flying completely vertically downward, you fly slightly diagonally downward to the left. This will automatically set the kite to have an uneven pancake. The more diagonal the kite is flying to the left, the more uneven the pancake will be which means the easier to get the 540. Having said that, it will look less appealing and like you said, the rotation is not flattering, but still it is a 540. So experiment with it and find a sweet spot.

2) when you pancake the kite, you fully extend your left arm to the very front while partially extend your right arm to about your waist position from very behind.

The moment you do the right pop, remember step your left foot forward. You do not need to do the same way as Mark did. He is too exaggerated. All you need is just a gentle step forward.

More tips:

1) try doing the 540 in low wind which is a lot easier than in high wind. In higher wind, you will need to do the way that Mark Reed did in order to generate tons of slack.

There are two ways to accomplish the uneven pancake and I do both together. Assuming your right hand is the popping hand

1) instead of flying completely vertically downward, you fly slightly diagonally downward to the left. This will automatically set the kite to have an uneven pancake. The more diagonal the kite is flying to the left, the more uneven the pancake will be which means the easier to get the 540. Having said that, it will look less appealing and like you said, the rotation is not flattering, but still it is a 540. So experiment with it and find a sweet spot.

2) when you pancake the kite, you fully extend your left arm to the very front while partially extend your right arm to about your waist position from very behind.

The moment you do the right pop, remember step your left foot forward. You do not need to do the same way as Mark did. He is too exaggerated. All you need is just a gentle step forward.

More tips:

1) try doing the 540 in low wind which is a lot easier than in high wind. In higher wind, you will need to do the way that Mark Reed did in order to generate tons of slack.

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