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I'm thinking of getting a carbon/titanium frame, the one that stands out at the moment is a Passoni Xxti.The problem with that is the price.. I'm also interested in the Dean and Holland Exogrid frames... (Ritte also do one!!)What I like about the Passoni is the ISP.Can anyone point me in a similar direction that won't brake the bank!!

I train on a Merlin Solis, which has carbon seatstays. Great bike, but I'd go all TI - the carbon mix doesn't really add anything. I have to admit that Passioni do have that a certain allure though.....

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scotty wrote:I'm thinking of getting a carbon/titanium frame, the one that stands out at the moment is a Passoni Xxti.The problem with that is the price..

just curious - why? I have a serotta ottrott that was made for the kodak gallery sierra nevada team so it is a full gas race design...rides great. but that was at a time when full carbon had yet to come into it's own. my parlee z3c rides as nice and is lighter, and of course we now live in a world of moots RSL etc. the mixed materials bikes will always cost a lot since they, well, mix the materials... no getting around that.

maxxevv wrote:Think you missed out on that he's actually referring to Passoni being the price issue.

perhaps, then again everyone else chiming in with all sorts of ti/carbon suggestions apparently did as well.

that aside, back to the topic...what is the f/f price of the XXti in question? my guess is at least $3500 USD and likely more. If OP is thinking it chould be less, perhaps this is not the material that matches his budget