Ugh, I got bored of Kung Fu Panda jokes about Mists of Pandaria, oh wait I never found them funny. Granted if anybody has actually played the thing they'd realise that the Pandaren are much more than that and it has a rather grim tone, albeit poorly written.

Still I've never really understood the point of TESO. Yes I do like the idea of being able to see some friends when I'm walking about in Cyrodiil but in truth always having to see them would be a pain in the arse. I guess I'll give this one a miss, and wait until I can return to Cyrodiil for two missions in TES VI: Valenwood or the Khajit place. Oblivion is almost painted in a positive light in this video which is a bit odd, but I guess time and TESO have improved Oblivion in one's graces.

In their defense at some point one guy said to his friend "Hey I wish Elder scrolls were two player." MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Sounds exactly what I thought it would be, but I haven't enjoyed an elder scrolls game since Morrowind so either way this one was definitely off my list.

I know you probably won't be reading this Yahtzee, but Pandaren were in Warcraft 3 (especially Chen Stormstout the main pandaren hero) before Kung Fu Panda was even made so your joke about that part falls rather flat.

Of course there are few that actually know this, but hey..all in good fun right? Right.

People wanted Skyrim you could play with your friends. They did not want World of Warcraft wearing Skyrim's skin. Zynax or whatever they're called of course wanted World of Warcraft wearing Skyrim's skin, so that they could farm TES's fanbase for $15 per month + $60 + $microtransactions.

I actually really like ESO the PvP has a DAOC feel, I haven't seen a MMO that has Semi good controls IE Not tab target garbage, and quests that are fully voiced with interesting backgrounds. I'm not delusional the game has its issues latency comes to mind with the occasional issue with there being to many people in 1 area, but I am having a lot of fun and it only seems to get better as I get higher in level. I'm veteran rank 3 and the mobs and puzzles seems to only get harder and more obscure its getting interesting to see the select few that has what it takes to fight the mobs at the level I'm at, there is no more than 200 of us.

PS The Vet level dungeons are extremely hard and require coordination beyond the scope of a normal human group stuff like that is refreshing to see, unlike WoW which is only getting more "Accessible" with every expansion they come out with.

I have sometimes thought that a game joining multiplayer aspect in Skyrim would be nice, but more for fucking around than actually playing it. And only when you can control who joins so you only get your friend who's all about running around killing wolves with no clothes on. Making it into an MMO where you aren't given the fuck aroundy freedom or the ability to choose your colleagues is missing the point a bit. And it still flummoxes me when an MMO expects you to pay cash up front to buy it and then thinks it can still charge you a monthly subscription fee.

Grumman:People wanted Skyrim you could play with your friends. They did not want World of Warcraft wearing Skyrim's skin. Zynax or whatever they're called of course wanted World of Warcraft wearing Skyrim's skin, so that they could farm TES's fanbase for $15 per month + $60 + $microtransactions.

The game does not have micro as far as I can tell, also the game plays nothing like world of warcraft please stop making up lies about the game.

And here I thought the hype train for SWTOR died down fast. I mean, it's just been up/down with this game; complete silence. Perhaps, that's due to people being hopelessly addicted to the title, but I doubt it.

Not that I'm affected by it, I'm more excited for 'Wildstar.' For once, a sizable MMORPG is coming out and it's not claiming to be a total revolution, just a fun experience you may or may not enjoy. It's nice because there's less chance of crushing disappointment that way. But, until that day comes along, I'm perfectly content with 'Guild Wars 2.'

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to get back to WvW. The Charr race isn't going to establish dominance all by itself.

like wow? nomicrotransactions? so far, a horse, the digital deluxe edition and for the future some services like name changeIssues? Hell, yeah, it has a ton of issues. Never seen an MMO that has none.Enjoyable? Yes. Very much so. It IS elder scrolls, just a different take on it. Should you play it? How should I know if you would enjoy it? If you can, try. Make up your own mind. I enjoy the hell out of it.

About what I expected to hear about ESO. An Elder Scrolls where I can't faff about or abuse the physics, no thanks.

But I'm not sure why Yahtzee would include Defiance in the list of franchises getting ham-handedly forced into the MMO shitstorm. As I understand it, the game and the show were created together, so the show could handle the bulk of the world-building, instead of awkwardly jamming exposition into the game. They are supposed to work together, instead of say Star Trek which just tried to capitalize on a preexisting franchise.

The Gentleman:I hear ESO is good, but not worth what they are charging for it.

Yeah, you're kinda right. You have to be either a big fan of TES or a big fan of realm vs realm / PvP. I'm both so this game is worth every cent. However, I can see why a lot of people wouldn't be able to get into it.

Honestly, I'm totally cool with ESO filling that niche. So many gamers complain about mass appeal (ie game that don't target a niche) then endlessly complain when something doesn't appeal to them.

The Gentleman:I hear ESO is good, but not worth what they are charging for it.

Yeah, you're kinda right. You have to be either a big fan of TES or a big fan of realm vs realm / PvP. I'm both so this game is worth every cent. However, I can see why a lot of people wouldn't be able to get into it.

Honestly, I'm totally cool with ESO filling that niche. So many gamers complain about mass appeal (ie game that don't target a niche) then endlessly complain when something doesn't appeal to them.

I think that's partially because the economics of an MMO (massive production costs and significant ongoing costs) requires a broader appeal so that it can be profitable.

I don't get the appeal of MMOs. I dunno, I guess the fact that you're not the one savung the day anymore kinda rubs me the wrong way... (Though if they made a decent Firefly MMO, I admit I'd give it a shot...)