anyways, we need to remember who committed the crime and that would be Sandusky... but the media and even this topic thread is all about Joe Pa... even idiots on facebook thinks that Joe was the one who raped the kids... this isn't about Joe, this is about Sandusky... heck i don't even think we've heard anything about the time he's probably going to get for this crime.... and what about the kids and families that were traumatized in all this.. i haven't heard but maybe a paragraph about them... no, the media is all on Joe even though he didn't commit the actual crime

now is he off the hook? like many, i dont think he is because he failed to do the right thing... but he's human, and humans make mistakes... not like any of us are perfect in everything we do...

Anyone with half a brain knows who actually did the crime, they make that clear, but stupid people abound as usual.

Yes, humans make mistakes. And people pay the price for their mistakes. Joe Pa did what was "legal" but effectively turned a blind eye toward the situation for YEARS...

"nobody's perfect" is a good excuse for an 8 year old, not so much for a "legend" who had been in almost total control over a program for 60 years before this surfaced. He could have fired him on the spot, instead, he chose not to have it revealed at that time, and it came back to bite him at the very end of his career. He could have cut ties with the molester. (Who will rot in Hell if there is one) but instead he decided to keep that bridge intact. Big Mistake. Cost him his legacy. He could have made Sandusky the sole guilty party, but instead, he let it linger and implicated himself as an enabler.

Did Paterno know about it for years? Nothing that I've read has indicated that. As I understand it, this was brought to his attention in 2002, 3 years after Sandusky had retired, and Joe Pa immediately reported it to his supervisors.

first off, deuce is not a troll... sometimes he may seem like it because his opinions are quite different and controversy and a bit extreme at times.. but he's not (as far as i know) one of those people that have no lives other than sit and hide behind a computer while they purposely piss people off.

I feel the need to correct this.

DW has previously said he is a troll and that he doesn't believe half of what he types here, he only does it to get a rise out of people.

As far as Paterno, he is getting more headlines because his "name". I also find it hard to believe that the only info he ever received was that one incident from the graduate assistant. Why didn't he talk to Sandusky himself afterward?

Regardless, this is what Penn State has to do to start what will be an extrememly long process to improve their reputation.

Could you imagine if the players carried Paterno off the field on Saturday? That would send a very wrong message.

Did Paterno know about it for years? Nothing that I've read has indicated that. As I understand it, this was brought to his attention in 2002, 3 years after Sandusky had retired, and Joe Pa immediately reported it to his supervisors.

He's known about it at least for 9 years, then. While the pedo continued to have an office in the building. He obviously is not playing the innocence card. He wishes he had done more, aka it was in his power to do more, and he didn't.

And yes, DW likes to play the Devil's advocate, and that's ok. Every forum needs one.

DW has previously said he is a troll and that he doesn't believe half of what he types here, he only does it to get a rise out of people.

As far as Paterno, he is getting more headlines because his "name". I also find it hard to believe that the only info he ever received was that one incident from the graduate assistant. Why didn't he talk to Sandusky himself afterward?

Regardless, this is what Penn State has to do to start what will be an extrememly long process to improve their reputation.

Could you imagine if the players carried Paterno off the field on Saturday? That would send a very wrong message.

some of things deuce says is sometimes out there... sometimes he's drunk and post crap... and then there's sometimes when he actually post stuff that makes you think... he may have some really out there though.... but most of the time he's not out there to annoy the board like jesse....

That's the problem to me. They're so focused on Paterno- people that don't follow closely assume he's the guy that did it. I'm seeing that on facebook as well.

Nick, you're going really overboard with the whole "aided and helped" angle. You, I, nor no one on this board have enough information to say that.

When I have to tell someone not to be extreme... lol

Again, if we all ran to the cops due to second-hand information, we'd never leave the station.
Had the witness just simply gone to the cops with the information he himself had- all this is avoided. Yet, it's Joe that aided the molester for all these years? He didn't know for fact that the guy was guilty as far as we know.

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