I was all set to order a pair of 670's and run them in SLI when I began to remember all the issues people had with microstuttering and such...something I had forgotten about, its been awhile since I ran my 260's SLI'ed......

Then I said "I'll just get a 690 when they become available"....its not the money, its the performance.....do the single card SLI solutions suffer the same fate with that phenom?

Then I looked at some benchmarks and realized that my 580 gets pretty close to a stock 670, of course at higher wattage draws. My 580 is a pretty darned good one, it runs at 925Mhz......which is pretty good for a stable 580 overclock.....so moving to a 670 nets me some frames, but not a ton (depending on the game) and in some ways hurts me....so getting one 670 is a lateral move and getting two is...well.....I'm still waffling :P

Ultimately my 580 still has plenty of chops.....I have no need to upgrade......I just want to, mostly because this 580 that runs at this clock still has secondary market value....for the moment...

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I was all set to order a pair of 670's and run them in SLI when I began to remember all the issues people had with microstuttering and such...something I had forgotten about, its been awhile since I ran my 260's SLI'ed......

Then I said "I'll just get a 690 when they become available"....its not the money, its the performance.....do the single card SLI solutions suffer the same fate with that phenom?

Then I looked at some benchmarks and realized that my 580 gets pretty close to a stock 670, of course at higher wattage draws. My 580 is a pretty darned good one, it runs at 925Mhz......which is pretty good for a stable 580 overclock.....so moving to a 670 nets me some frames, but not a ton (depending on the game) and in some ways hurts me....so getting one 670 is a lateral move and getting two is...well.....I'm still waffling :P

Ultimately my 580 still has plenty of chops.....I have no need to upgrade......I just want to, mostly because this 580 that runs at this clock still has secondary market value....for the moment...

If I already had a 580. I'd keep it for the compute power alone. It isn't like it can't run all games maxed out ya know. People seem to just hate on fermi now. When I'd still be very happy running a 580.

As for micro stutter. For some reason it only seems to happen when I 1st start playing a game. It's gone within 2 mins and doesn't come back. Could be a driver issue? These cards are pretty new. My guess is they have a lot of maturing to do still.

That's the thing...the major overclock on the 580 gets me pretty decent performance in just about everything. Ok I may have to turn a few things down in Crysis2 or run a custom config in Crysis to keep the frames around 60', but now with FXAA and such I can turn down AA and transparancy AA in some games if there's a performance issue.....so yeah, I'm sitting on this, its just that "ooooh...shiny new stuff...ooooh" urge

But I also know my 580 has more value today than it will in six months.....I guess by then I'll be happy to get $150 or $200 bucks for it and take the bite out of whatever I replace it with. the only thing that sucks is this gets a bit loud under load....and that is even with me having an MSI one that is supposed to run cooler and use softer fans...err forget the name of it now, vapochill..no...whatever, anyways.....thanks for the opinion.

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That's the thing...the major overclock on the 580 gets me pretty decent performance in just about everything. Ok I may have to turn a few things down in Crysis2 or run a custom config in Crysis to keep the frames around 60', but now with FXAA and such I can turn down AA and transparancy AA in some games if there's a performance issue.....so yeah, I'm sitting on this, its just that "ooooh...shiny new stuff...ooooh" urge

But I also know my 580 has more value today than it will in six months.....I guess by then I'll be happy to get $150 or $200 bucks for it and take the bite out of whatever I replace it with. the only thing that sucks is this gets a bit loud under load....and that is even with me having an MSI one that is supposed to run cooler and use softer fans...err forget the name of it now, vapochill..no...whatever, anyways.....thanks for the opinion.

Do you have any input lag problems on Crysis2? Whenever I try to play the game I get HORRIBLE input lag. IDK what the deal is. For once. Google couldn't help me.

That's the thing...the major overclock on the 580 gets me pretty decent performance in just about everything. Ok I may have to turn a few things down in Crysis2 or run a custom config in Crysis to keep the frames around 60', but now with FXAA and such I can turn down AA and transparancy AA in some games if there's a performance issue.....so yeah, I'm sitting on this, its just that "ooooh...shiny new stuff...ooooh" urge

But I also know my 580 has more value today than it will in six months.....I guess by then I'll be happy to get $150 or $200 bucks for it and take the bite out of whatever I replace it with. the only thing that sucks is this gets a bit loud under load....and that is even with me having an MSI one that is supposed to run cooler and use softer fans...err forget the name of it now, vapochill..no...whatever, anyways.....thanks for the opinion.

You're playing at 1920x1080, so it is probably best to just keep the 580 and see what the near future has in store.

If you buy a 670 now just to enable one or two more graphical features in a handful of games, then you might soon wish you had bought a GK110 so you can do something like enable maximum draw distance in a future game like GTA V.

Unless you just enjoy what you're currently getting, which is very high quality visuals at a smooth frame-rate, the madness never ends when you strive for the absolute best image quality settings at minimal benefit.

Do you have any input lag problems on Crysis2? Whenever I try to play the game I get HORRIBLE input lag. IDK what the deal is. For once. Google couldn't help me.

Negative on the input lag...but first thing with input lag is to turn of VSYNC....see if that helps anything or not........I think I run VSYNC off and get no tearing in the game that I notice. Been awhile since I fired it up...

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You're playing at 1920x1080, so it is probably best to just keep the 580 and see what the near future has in store.

If you buy a 670 now just to enable one or two more graphical features in a handful of games, then you might soon wish you had bought a GK110 so you can do something like enable maximum draw distance in a future game like GTA V.

Unless you just enjoy what you're currently getting, which is very high quality visuals at a smooth frame-rate, the madness never ends when you strive for the absolute best image quality settings at minimal benefit.

Not me lol. I thought that card was mainly for business. As it's going to be prices insanely high.

You're playing at 1920x1080, so it is probably best to just keep the 580 and see what the near future has in store.

If you buy a 670 now just to enable one or two more graphical features in a handful of games, then you might soon wish you had bought a GK110 so you can do something like enable maximum draw distance in a future game like GTA V.

Unless you just enjoy what you're currently getting, which is very high quality visuals at a smooth frame-rate, the madness never ends when you strive for the absolute best image quality settings at minimal benefit.

When i bought the 580 I knew I was buying a BIT of future proofing and in many ways its succeeded in that regard. Because I can get a very good overclock out of it, that helps too.....so yeah I am content to stay here and no, most of the time the features I turn off to save frames "SSAO", for example, is usually poorly implemented that I find it more of a distraction than a help in some games......some effects aren't worth the performance hit.....so I don't miss them.

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Negative on the input lag...but first thing with input lag is to turn of VSYNC....see if that helps anything or not........I think I run VSYNC off and get no tearing in the game that I notice. Been awhile since I fired it up...

I get a ton of tearing with V sync off. I've been using the adaptive V sync feature for it. It's annoyingly bad. I know there's not way it's my PC. This thing is a beast! Was hoping people might have some insight on a possible fix. But I will try to disable VSYNC.

The first card announced to use the GK110 chip is for the enterprise class, but there's still talk about gaming cards based on it. Regardless, my real point is there will always be something better.

True. It's all about being happy with what works for YOU. Don't go looking to see whats new if your happy with what you have. Otherwise. You will most likely end up really wanting something you don't need.

I'm a perfect example. There is no reason for me to own ANY 600 series cards in SLI. But I do. Why? Because I'm sure someday there will be a time when I'll actually need it. Unreal Engine 4 is my guess.

Yea no way I'd upgrade if I had a 580. I had a 295 and still not sure I did the right thing buying a 680 for $500. Although Selling the old 295 for $100 and then selling the asus hdav 1.3 sound card which I no longer need for $100 and BAM that made it $300 upgrade, which is the only reason I'm cool with it.

Yea no way I'd upgrade if I had a 580. I had a 295 and still not sure I did the right thing buying a 680 for $500. Although Selling the old 295 for $100 and then selling the asus hdav 1.3 sound card which I no longer need for $100 and BAM that made it $300 upgrade, which is the only reason I'm cool with it.

Sounds like you made it out ok to me. Seems we did around the same thing. Sell old parts to get new ones.

I mainly did it because I wanted to sell my stuff for a decent price while I still could. Every day I had it the value would just drop. Sold my old cards and MB for about $300 total.

Plus, it's nice knowing I have the fastest gaming set up possible. I know I'm not missing out in anything lol. Next up. 120Hz monitor!

The ASUS GTX 670 DirectCU II TOP is getting a lot of praise. It is overclocked to perform about the same as a stock GTX 680 (and better in some games) for what is stated to be $80 cheaper. Also, it is apparently virtually silent under load with just a two-slot cooler.

Has anyone run the 670 on an Intel Q6600? If so, how were the framerates? I'm contemplating getting back into PC gaming, but the thought of spending $1000 or so for a complete upgrade has left me with cold feet. I'm only planning to play @ 1080P, so I'm hoping my Q6600 (OC'd to 3.4) will suffice for now. Thanks

Has anyone run the 670 on an Intel Q6600? If so, how were the framerates? I'm contemplating getting back into PC gaming, but the thought of spending $1000 or so for a complete upgrade has left me with cold feet. I'm only planning to play @ 1080P, so I'm hoping my Q6600 (OC'd to 3.4) will suffice for now. Thanks

I imagine it's a bit of a bottle neck but you'll see get decent performance. I was running a 680 on the same CPU. Was still getting an average of 70/80 FPS on BF3.