Comments on: Appeals court says health reform law is unconstitutionalhttps://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/appeals-court-says-health-reform-law-is-unconstitutional/2651/
Health and hospital news in New York and the Capital RegionThu, 16 Feb 2017 10:22:37 +0000hourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.4By: Victor Camapahttps://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/appeals-court-says-health-reform-law-is-unconstitutional/2651/#comment-1949
Mon, 22 Aug 2011 01:25:14 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/?p=2651#comment-1949The only way to reduce health care cost is to make people more responsible for their own health. The vast majority of cost is for preventable disease.
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Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:18:46 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/?p=2651#comment-1925The root cause of the healthcare mess is that people are not paying for the services that they receive. They have shifted the cost onto a third-party and, therefore, have little to no regard for what the actual cost of a medical procedure, device, or medication actually is.

These third parties have created such a disaster of the system, requiring coders and billers, all with advanced degrees, to put together the bill. It is then reviewed by someone at the third party, with a similar background, and then is paid (or not paid) based on actuarial information and not the actual patient condition. How did we get this way? We changed our payment system from a focus on sick care (i.e. surgery, diagnostic imaging, etc.) to well care (i.e. preventive exams, tests, etc.), but did not change what the third party pays for. Yes, they may pay for an exam, but the payments are still more enticing for someone who does procedures. The HMOs started this whole thing – the idea of capitation of the healthcare costs of a group of people is a great idea from an accountant’s perspective – but the ability to deliver care in that manner doesn’t work. This is why Obama’s idea of Accountable Care Organizations will fail, just the way Kaiser failed here.

As for those who stated in the replies “I have to buy home and car insurance” keep this in mind – you purchase home insurance because of the contract between you and your lender. Your lender is the group that requires it – not any level of government. For your car, it is a state requirement, not a federal one. The powers of the federal government are limited in the Constitution with any that are not so delegated to the federal government reserved for the states. Congress has been very creative with working around this limitation and, in lieu of chastising the states for a policy it disagrees with, they simply withhold payment for something (like the state will pass a seatbelt law or will have no highway funds).

We cannot allow Washington to dictate to us. Remember, they work for us!

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Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:53:55 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/?p=2651#comment-1923“wondering” and “luvpudders” hit the nail on the head.
]]>By: Moehttps://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/appeals-court-says-health-reform-law-is-unconstitutional/2651/#comment-1922
Wed, 17 Aug 2011 23:09:34 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/?p=2651#comment-1922This is a legal issue now, the discussion ended when the bill passed Congress. The issue pretty much boils down to can the government force you to buy a product just because you are alive? With the current make up of the Supreme Court, my guess is no.
Another issue is cost, the CBO scoring was a better Ponzi scheme than the one Madoff pulled off. This will be repealed when Obama is out, hopefully before the real costs start piling up. For instance, when the bill was scored by the CBO, only individual plans were counted not family plans. I will leave you with this study from Cornell.http://epionline.org/downloads/110715_EPI_AnOfferYouCantRefuse_PolicyBrief_Final.pdf
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Wed, 17 Aug 2011 11:53:31 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/?p=2651#comment-1919Poor Americans…we’ll take just about any abuse.

We should all have healthcare…everyone else has it.

]]>By: Annhttps://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/appeals-court-says-health-reform-law-is-unconstitutional/2651/#comment-1899
Mon, 15 Aug 2011 16:10:13 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/?p=2651#comment-1899If you are not getting insurance through an employer, with the employer paying a large portion of it, then you are basically being financially raped. It is way too expensive and covers nothing. I’ve been there and done that and would have been much better off not paying for the insurance since I had to pay in full for every doctors visit I ever had.
Much of the cost of insurance is paying for other people to have coverage, such as those with serious health issues that the insurance companies lose money on ceovering. Forcing someone to contribute to that is unjust.
Before we force everyone to carry insurance we have to make it more affordable; we have to have health care reform before making insurance mandatory.
]]>By: maggiehttps://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/appeals-court-says-health-reform-law-is-unconstitutional/2651/#comment-1898
Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:32:17 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/?p=2651#comment-1898But I thought the new mandata that was under debate only applied to people who do not get insurance through their employer. In which case, wouldn’t they have the same ability to shop around for hte coverage they desire?
]]>By: governmentgetouthttps://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/appeals-court-says-health-reform-law-is-unconstitutional/2651/#comment-1889
Sun, 14 Aug 2011 03:51:05 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/?p=2651#comment-1889You can choose not to buy a home and not to buy a car and therefore do not to take on the cost of home or car insurance. Additionally what insurance coverage you get is your choice after you meet certain minimums. In the case of Health Insurance we have a system where your Employer determines the insurance that your family has access to and the cost of that insurance is thrust on you at their discrection. In the last few years my family has gone from our Empolyers paying the host of single insurance to them requiring we pay into it since premiums have increased, this is the equivalent of a pay cut. Now I realize we the value of the benefit our ER’s are paying hasn’t decreased but when your take home decreases and you don’t actually get any new benefit it’s a cut. The plan we currently have through my husband has very very high deductable. In order for insurance to actually cover anything someone would need to be hospitalized and because of how the insurers get you I have to take the insurance my company offers for myself (even though I have to pay the premium out of pocket) or paybig penalties. (now if you have a couple where the spouse stays home they don’t have to pay higher premiums so I don’t understand how the arguement that his insurere shouldn’t have to take on my health care since we pay for the family coverage anyway) In the two years we have had this high deducttable plan even with the need for yearly trips to the heart dr for my child and another specialist for myself along with expensive maintenance meds we don’t even hit the 50% mark for our deductable but we pay hundreds of dollars a month to the insurance company for the coverage just in case. I would prefer catastrophic coverage only for my family and the ability to continue to pay out of pocket.
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Sat, 13 Aug 2011 11:35:35 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/?p=2651#comment-1888I think its time to take the profit motive out of Health Care and push for ObamaCare to be amended to a Single Payer Govt run system of Health Care Insurance…standardize it and take the layers of companies out of the mix & computerize the administration to reduce costs & help prevent misdiagnosis and fraud. Health Care should be a right in America.
]]>By: maggiehttps://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/appeals-court-says-health-reform-law-is-unconstitutional/2651/#comment-1887
Sat, 13 Aug 2011 10:18:54 +0000http://blog.timesunion.com/healthcare/?p=2651#comment-1887We have to buy home owners insurance, car insurance. Why is this different?
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