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Re: Fox won’t cover Koran-burning; AP to block pictures

Yes, I guess that when it's revealed that certain members of the military were doing bad things, it makes Bush and the military look bad.

However you need to characterize it for your internal model of the world to remain stable, it doesn't change the fact that there is a significant difference between exposing government abuses and glorifying one individual's stupidity.

Re: Fox won’t cover Koran-burning; AP to block pictures

Bias? I'm pointing out hypocrisy. I'm pointing out that all you have to do is threaten violence and the media cowers. They WIN. Don't you people get it? When we fear them, they WIN.

What good is freedom of speech, or freedom of the press if we let others determine what we will show because we fear their reaction! This isn't about the Flag, or the Koran, or Islam, or Christianity. This is about letting FEAR control us.

And some of you, shake in your boots.

I see your point to some certain extent.

But until we bring our boys home I am glad they are not showing the blowhard burning books. Bring our boys home and then tell them to shove it.

We should have never been over there but some of you were concerned how Hussein was treating his own citizens. Well, guess what we went in there with billions of bucks and lost and maimed many of our best.........................and how do they treat us? One lunatic here gets national press and they are ready to burn us.......Are we the biggest idiots in the world?

And I am not shaking in my boots either and neither should you because we are both thousands of miles away from that hell and safe sitting on our fat butts typing nonsense.

Re: Fox won’t cover Koran-burning; AP to block pictures

There is a significant difference between exposing government abuses and glorifying an individual's idiocy.

That you're having trouble seeing that is both typical and disappointing, all at the same time.

I was pointing out that the media doesn't give two ****s about troop safety not whether or not there is a significance between the two. Amazing how you have trouble seeing that.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

Re: Fox won’t cover Koran-burning; AP to block pictures

Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan

Yeah, and I was pointing out that you're comparing apples to oranges.

If it makes you feel better about your position to continue, feel free.

How was I trying to compare apples to oranges? Did I say a measly insignificant book burning was the same thing as prison photos? People argued in both cases that the end result of showing photos would be loss of more troop lives, its not any shape or form say a measly book burning is somehow the same thing as national guard pogs staking inmates in a human pyramid. Using the prison abuse scandal only points out that the media does not give two ****s about whether or not the troops are endangered as a result of their activities.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

Re: Fox won’t cover Koran-burning; AP to block pictures

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Originally Posted by Hatuey

So what you're telling us is that events which would put any and every American in a Muslim country in danger should be broadcast? Interesting. I remember when the Iraq war started, the mere mention that Arabs were dying supposedly put our soldiers in jeopardy more than the fact that we had invaded a country. Now that some jerk-off bigot is about to start a **** storm that anyone with more than two brain cells would want to avoid getting involved in - it doesn't matter what the media prints or says anymore? Your bias doesn't escape us.

When there were unconfirmed reports of Korans being flushed down toilets in Gitmo, I don't recall any media organizations agreeing not to report on the story because it might endanger Americans overseas. I remember them rushing to print the story despite the fact that there was no solid evidence that this had ever occurred. As a result of this erroneous report, there were riots around the globe that left 15 dead.

Originally Posted by Gardener

Well, let's see. Some complete nobody in Podunk, U.S.A. decides to pull a cheap publicity stunt. This needs to be publicized nationally as if it were a meaningful event, why?

It doesn't. The people who decided it needed to be publicized nationally are the ones who are now furiously trying to distance themselves from the predictable results of their actions.

As pointed out above, the fact that some whackjob wanted to burn a Koran is not new. The only thing that made this incident different is that the media gobbled it up and spread it across the front page of newspapers nationwide.

Random guy on the street: "I'm an asshole"
Police officer: "That's interesting, here's a megaphone so everyone can hear you"
Random guy on the street with a megaphone: "I'M AN ASSHOLE!"
Police officer: "You're under arrest for being disruptive."

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.