I disagree totally with

November 26 2017, 1:59 PM

I disagree totally with the resprayed hand idea. I've seen enough ratty old ones and am a firm believer that they were no more than mistakes. They seemed to proliferate in the late 1960s and can even be found on the small 24-hour hands from the gilt era.

As far as being resprayed, of course that is being done too. As far as radial dial GMTs having a genuine all red hand, it's nothing more than a compilation of parts to enhance the value of the watch. Way too late for the all red hands. Additionally, besides the all red hand added to the radial dial era, you'll also find many with the "blueberry" insert.

i have faded one...

Interesting time.........

The luminous on Rolex watches as per the 1965 AEC audit of Rolex USA reveals that Mertz & Bentoli were painting the Tritium on the dial and hands not the dial & hand manufacturers.

What we don't know is from when did M&B start and end applying the luminous material.From a Swiss contaminated building report a M&B building possibly the painting shop/mixing shop operated from 1958 thru to the late 70's, M&B made a decision in 1968 to withdrawn from luminous paint manufacture and specialise in Tritium gases watches for which they are renown for today..so when they ended painting dials and hands for Rolex is not known, most likely some time after 1968.

As part of a supply chain M&B if they received the dial and hands directly from the manufacturers most likely would have had some form of goods inward quality control checking conformance etc. as they would not want to paint dials or hands that may be rejected by Rolex. Conversely,if the dials and hands came directly from Rolex they most likely would paint whatever is sent....so you need to understand the supply chain at the time as to the circumstances and whose QC that would allow non conforming hands eg all red etc to be painted by M&B...I'm sure M&B would not paint something that may be rejected by Rolex.

I know from my now long gone retired watchmaker that he spent a lot of his apprenticeship in the 60's working for a watch manufacturer scraping radium off hands to be replaced with Tritium,for watches in for a service so that creates the possibility of hand repairs and replaced lumi for earlier pieces.

kind regards

John

This message has been edited by fatboyharris from IP address 151.230.27.58 on Nov 27, 2017 4:39 AM

You will probably never get that information

November 27 2017, 12:48 AM

People will show you their very nice watches with all-red hands. But as I believe that there is no official documentation that shows that red hands once fitted 1675s, it is only up to you to believe in the story and to think of the premium you are ready to pay for this very nice fixture.

Please note however that I do not say that some all red hands are not genuine. They might indeed have been produced for Rolex. But there is no evidence that GMTs were once retailed with this particular hand.

This message has been edited by JohnBasque from IP address 217.15.93.190 on Nov 27, 2017 1:32 AM

Red Gmt hands? Neither Fiedler nor Universo produced any! It...

November 27 2017, 12:24 PM

is just a quick way to franken your GMT and to remove value from it.

The very (very) few ones that ever existed were errors as mentioned above.

I only can repeat myself: remember that a guy like Jean François Treskow , 15 years
Rolex horloger/rhabilleur (the watchmaker who is in charge at your RSC to disassemble and reassemble your watch before and after service)
only saw 1 (yes ONE) in fifteen years work!

So guys sorry but lol and better stop that nonsense with these ridiculous shiny resprayed hands.

This message has been edited by greenoyster from IP address 90.87.71.93 on Nov 27, 2017 1:21 PM