what's gonna happen is that they are gonna end up firing her shortly after queen Rosie arrives.

the 1st major conflict them two have won't lead to some rediculous cuddle session on the couch after a commercial break.

Elisabeth is trying to stick it out, she realized a long time ago that them other ladies will never truly respect any of her "views" on any topic with real meaning. If it's fluff as you say, then Elisabeth is there best friend.

if they end up dropping her off the show, that won't look very good for Barb and co.

How about the novel concept of having EQUAL numbers of people from each philosophy, including some moderates? (putting nothing but opposed radicals on makes for spectacular TV, sure, but not a very intelligent debate).

Mind you, I think Elisabeth's ranting about the Morning After pill was pretty distasteful, but there's no real debate on this show. None.

Actually, why are we even pretending intelligent equitable discourse is possible on this show. It's not. Is the Al Franken radio show balanced? A Chris Matthews broadcast? No, and no. This is no different, I guess, and maybe we should just leave it at that. We should just accept what this program is, I guess, and either watch it or not depending on our individual philosophies. I mean if Rosie O'Donell makes you want to upchuck, I doubt Elisabeth's continuing presense is going stop that vomit.

what's gonna happen is that they are gonna end up firing her shortly after queen Rosie arrives.

the 1st major conflict them two have won't lead to some rediculous cuddle session on the couch after a commercial break.

Elisabeth is trying to stick it out, she realized a long time ago that them other ladies will never truly respect any of her "views" on any topic with real meaning. If it's fluff as you say, then Elisabeth is there best friend.

if they end up dropping her off the show, that won't look very good for Barb and co.

I agree with some points that both you and Veruka have made. I also thought of the fact that she probably wouldn't walk out on her contract. I'm not sure how much longer that is, but that would be a perfect time to leave. I can not see her on the show after Rosie gets there. She isn't allowed an opinion NOW, so what would change for the better when a big mouth know it all is added to the mix? And as Veruka said, she probably feels an obligation to stand up for her views but I doubt that she will be able to do that indefinitely. How many of us would keep voicing our opinion knowing that we were going to get slapped down regularly?

Second, I tend to wonder if at this point, Elizabeth could walk away on her own and still save face. If she were to get some sort of solo gig, perhaps hosting a show on HGTV or The Style Network, she may be able to spin that as such a great opportunity she couldn't refuse it.

That would be a step back for her, as she already did "The Look for Less" on The Style Network for a couple of seasons. But she was extremely well suited for that and did a great job.

How about the novel concept of having EQUAL numbers of people from each philosophy, including some moderates? (putting nothing but opposed radicals on makes for spectacular TV, sure, but not a very intelligent debate).

Actually, why are we even pretending intelligent equitable discourse is possible on this show. It's not. Is the Al Franken radio show balanced? A Chris Matthews broadcast? No, and no. This is no different, I guess, and maybe we should just leave it at that. We should just accept what this program is, I guess, and either watch it or not depending on our individual philosophies.

You know, the shame of it is, Krom, that it USED to be possible. They had some fabulous discussions between Meredith, Star, Joy, and Lisa back before the participants got a little too big for their britches. But in order to have intelligent, calm, rational discussions about topics, political or otherwise, you have to have intelligent, calm, rational people participating. These women no longer qualify.

That would be a step back for her, as she already did "The Look for Less" on The Style Network for a couple of seasons. But she was extremely well suited for that and did a great job.

I definitely agree that she'd have to find JUST the right show to present it as a chance she couldn't refuse (like Lisa Ling with the National Geographic gig). The more likely option for her may be to have another baby. Then, she could say that with two kids, she wanted to be home to spend more time with them.

Krom - I think there is an essential difference to acknowledge when attempting to compare The View to Hardball or Al Franken. The View is produced under the ABC Daytime / entertainment umbrella. It is not treated by ABC as a news show ... and it shouldn't be produced like one.

The lady from 20/20 who is Al Roker's wife (I forgot her name) - is she in the running to replace Star Jones? If so, isn't her job on 20/20 a better paid one, or would she get paid more co hosting the view?

The lady from 20/20 who is Al Roker's wife (I forgot her name) - is she in the running to replace Star Jones? If so, isn't her job on 20/20 a better paid one, or would she get paid more co hosting the view?

I don't know if Deborah Roberts is in the running or not, but I think she'd be very good. She'd be able to bring a couple of life experiences to the table that aren't being represented right now - incluidng being a step parent. I think that she's majorly under-used by ABC right now, so I think I'd like to see that!

As for the pay - that would be up to ABC. I would venture to guess that if she were a constant member of an ensemble as she'd be on The View, rather than a replacable contributor as she is now, she'd have a good argument for higher pay.

I've heard some rumors that GMA is trying hard to court Al Roker to leave Today and come over to GMA. I've wondered how Deborah's role at ABC could contribute to that happening or not happening. It'd be interesting to see that play out.