I guess it depends on matchups. Flacco had to go through the Texans last year (in a game he struggled in) and then the Patriots (Brady) and lost to them.

It's conceivable that if Schaub just has to go through 1 elite qb to go to the SB then maybe it's possible. But I don't see him going through 2 elite QBs on his way to the SB. Say he has to go through Ben then Brady/Peyton, I just don't see him beating 2 elite guys to get there.

The point is that Flacco, like Schuab, isn't the main reason why the team will be held back (Lee Evans dropped Flacco's Super Bowl pass). Houston has the potential to beat anyone in the NFL and also has the potential to light it up with the best of them. One, looking like two, bad nights against the Packers and Patriots doesn't change that.

Honestly even if this game against the Patriots is a blowout, I wouldn't be really worried. The Texans will have the first seed in the playoffs most likely. At least a bye. I don't think it's an indictment of the Texans not being able to get to the Super Bowl.

If the Texans choke, I'm thinking it's going to be their defense melting down more than anything. Like they are tonight. I'd be surprised if it's Schaub's inability to make plays.

The point is that Flacco, like Schuab, isn't the main reason why the team will be held back (Lee Evans dropped Flacco's Super Bowl pass). Houston has the potential to beat anyone in the NFL and also has the potential to light it up with the best of them. One, looking like two, bad nights against the Packers and Patriots doesn't change that.

Honestly even if this game against the Patriots is a blowout, I wouldn't be really worried. The Texans will have the first seed in the playoffs most likely. At least a bye. I don't think it's an indictment of the Texans not being able to get to the Super Bowl.

If the Texans choke, I'm thinking it's going to be their defense melting down more than anything. Like they are tonight. I'd be surprised if it's Schaub's inability to make plays.

Lol what? dude theyve scored zero points and the Defense had just forced four stops with multiple hits on Brady before that last score. What game are you watching?

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than when he ran that dude over?

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I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

The point is that Flacco, like Schuab, isn't the main reason why the team will be held back (Lee Evans dropped Flacco's Super Bowl pass). Houston has the potential to beat anyone in the NFL and also has the potential to light it up with the best of them. One, looking like two, bad nights against the Packers and Patriots doesn't change that.

Honestly even if this game against the Patriots is a blowout, I wouldn't be really worried. The Texans will have the first seed in the playoffs most likely. At least a bye. I don't think it's an indictment of the Texans not being able to get to the Super Bowl.

If the Texans choke, I'm thinking it's going to be their defense melting down more than anything. Like they are tonight. I'd be surprised if it's Schaub's inability to make plays.

It's not just the defense tonight. Schaub is playing poorly too. The problem with this team is they can't play from behind down 2 scores. They're not built to play a wide open game. You're not gonna shut everyone out, there's gonna be games where you have to play a shootout and I don't see this team as a team that can hang with the big boys in a shoot out.

This Texans defense is good, but I don't view it the same way as the 49ers or Seahawks defense. I don't see it as a shut down, lock down defense that can take on any offense.

It's not just the defense tonight. Schaub is playing poorly too. The problem with this team is they can't play from behind down 2 scores. They're not built to play a wide open game. You're not gonna shut everyone out, there's gonna be games where you have to play a shootout and I don't see this team as a team that can hang with the big boys in a shoot out.

This Texans defense is good, but I don't view it the same way as the 49ers or Seahawks defense. I don't see it as a shut down, lock down defense that can take on any offense.

Yes the entire team is off their mark tonight. It happens. But they're also 11-1, soon to be 11-2. Assuming they even do get behind when they play an opponent on their home field, it depends who it is. They haven't had to play from behind that many times, this is true. Sorry, I'm just not willing to play the fraud/overrated card on them. Not yet.

Yes the entire team is off their mark tonight. It happens. But they're also 11-1, soon to be 11-2. Assuming they even do get behind when they play an opponent on their home field, it depends who it is. They haven't had to play from behind that many times, this is true. Sorry, I'm just not willing to play the fraud/overrated card on them. Not yet.

That's fine. I respect that. Just out of curiosity, who do you have coming out of the AFC?

I think right here right now, I'm leaning towards the Broncos. I want to say the Steelers but I don't even know if they're going to make the playoffs.

My brain says the Patriots but it feels like that team goes to the SB every other year and I just can't see them doing it again.

You literally, LITERALLY said that the texans defense was melting down tonight. Its right in the quote of my last post. hahaha lol wut?

And? That doesn't mean me and BBD weren't talking about the entire scope of the entire Texans season. That was the main premise. Which is why I responded to him. Go back and read if you don't believe me. The conversations we were having weren't just about tonight's game.

That's fine. I respect that. Just out of curiosity, who do you have coming out of the AFC?

I think right here right now, I'm leaning towards the Broncos. I want to say the Steelers but I don't even know if they're going to make the playoffs.

My brain says the Patriots but it feels like that team goes to the SB every other year and I just can't see them doing it again.

The Super Bowl? Before the season I said Houston. Now, I would say the Broncos seem to be the "smart pick". They look like they're going to be the AFC champions at this point. I think the Patriots defense will let them down at some point. Same with the Ravens who really seem inconsistent as of late.

Xs and Os aside, 50% of defense is tackling. It's the most fundamental principle of defense that's overlooked so often. All the great defenses in this league are great tackling defenses, regardless of what scheme they run.

And? That doesn't mean me and BBD weren't talking about the entire scope of the entire Texans season. That was the main premise. Which is why I responded to him. Go back and read if you don't believe me. The conversations we were having weren't just about tonight's game.

Hahah yes you were referring to the entire scope. You still tried saying that tonight was an example of the defense melting down rather than Shaubs play, you used tonight as an example and it wasn't accurate so I called you out on it. I can read fine.

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I don't know how old you are, but if you can get to 24/25 without getting arrested or killed, you've done well for yourself lol.

Hahah yes you were referring to the entire scope. You still tried saying that tonight was an example of the defense melting down rather than Shaubs play, you used tonight as an example and it wasn't accurate so I called you out on it.

The defense hasn't played up to it's potential like it has on other times of the season. This reminds me of the game against Jacksonville a couple of weeks back. Even if the offense is struggling, that isn't an excuse to give up 28 points. And it's not like the Texans have been constantly turning the ball over giving the Patriots good field position for their scores.

Regardless, that doesn't matter. Like I said earlier, I wasn't just talking about this game. If you want to take out some little part of my statement and nitpick about it, then proceed. But I assumed you were quoting me to respond to the bigger picture I had been discussing with BBD. I also just said the entire team was struggling, including Schaub.