-- starts in about five minutes. I feel a great disturbance in the fandom, as if millions of screechy voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

Me, I can't wait. The original Thundercats was the hokiest, cheesiest thing I've ever had the opportunity to see and I personally blame it for being a major part of the obnoxious sect of furrydom. I said it. I didn't like the original Thundercats. I think a remake only has up to go.

I made a thread for the Looney Toons as well, and don't want to bump it. It started weak, and I wish they'd stop some of those **** songs (other than that creepy as **** and hilarious Grill Cheese song), but over all it's been getting progressively better.

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There's a new Scooby Doo series. In it, Velma and Shaggy dated, but broke up, so now it's awkward for the whole gang.

And, in watching a whole episode, there wasn't ONE reference to the fact that Shaggy was a stoner, or his and Scooby's voracious appetites. THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO GIVE SCOOBY A SCOOBY SNACK TO MAKE HIM ENTER THE SCARY ARBOREUM WHERE THE VAMPIRE HANGS OUT AT NIGHTTIME.

Cats are the ruling class of the world, and are total ****** So not too different from real cats. Nice of a King Arthur-esque story sticking in some racism. And not even subtle racism. Full blown in your face racism. Admittedly a nice touch.

Good animation, though I don't like the parts that were blatant flash/cg. I never like that kind of thing, but that's more of a personal pet peeve. It wasn't badly done, I just don't like how distracting it can be. Very fluid, very well done.

Likewise the voice acting. The characters they've shown so far sound like they're the ones talking, which I'm aware is what is supposed to happen, but I've found that it doesn't happen often enough. Well chosen voices matched the characters pretty well. Jaga sounded old, Liono sounded like he'd just left his teens, Tygra sounded pompous, and Cheetara sounded like, well, Cheetara. Larry Kenney, who was the original Liono plays King Claudus. On the other end of that spectrum was Clancey Brown who plays Grune the Destroyer here. I COULD NOT UNHEAR MR. KRABS. Though, again, he did well for the role. Just, you know. I pictured it differently from what I heard. Best part: Snarf didn't talk. He was a fuxxin' pet. Thank you.

My Prediction: Series is a Time Jump of a, thus far, indeterminate amount of time. Fate is bringing the souls (or whatever you want to call it) of the previous series heroes (and some of the badguys) together to face a great evil once again.

My body was not ready.

Edited, Jul 29th 2011 11:36pm by lolgaxe

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So I was one of them kids who was totally into the old Thundercats (and TMNT, and Masters of the Universe). I just watched the 1st 2 episodes (because I forgot to watch it Friday ><). One word: awesome.

There's a new Scooby Doo series. In it, Velma and Shaggy dated, but broke up, so now it's awkward for the whole gang.

And, in watching a whole episode, there wasn't ONE reference to the fact that Shaggy was a stoner, or his and Scooby's voracious appetites. THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO GIVE SCOOBY A SCOOBY SNACK TO MAKE HIM ENTER THE SCARY ARBOREUM WHERE THE VAMPIRE HANGS OUT AT NIGHTTIME.

I was disgusted and almost lost my hope for humanity.

Can't be worse than any of the ones with Scrappy in it.

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Not that the original was any sacred cow for me but I saw the new artwork and... I dunno. Could it be any more boring and dull than more anime looking crap? It's about as inspiring as 1970s Hanna-Barbera animation or the Ruby-Spears or DiC stuff from the 1980s.

Third episode in a few minutes. Should have the standard intro added in, and hopefully Panthro and SUPER MUMM-RA that they **** blocked us from last week. I figure this is the make or break episode. I'm simply assuming they put their best foot forward last week, so this week they've got to put as much effort into it to really draw the audience into keeping up with the series. I figure they'll recycle the animation for the Thundercats Hoooo scene, but hopefully it's limited to that.

As far as voices, two things. One, I hope Larry Kenney wasn't just a one time thing, and gets more lines as the series goes on, even if it's just flashbacks. Also discovered that new Lion-O was Terry McGinnis from Batman Beyond. That entertained me, I liked that series.

For the record, I liked Mummies Alive.

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No intro. Quite disappointing. I was hoping for a "THUNDERCATS ARE ON THE PROWL, THUNDERCATS ARE LOOSE" action. Rumor is there won't be due to Cartoon Network saying it can only be ten seconds long, and instead of butchering something with a synthesizer they decided to forget it totally. Not a bad choice. Still want the song, though.

Wily Kit, dressed like a tiny ***** and Wily Kat dressed like a Rob Liefeld abortion, with TONS OF POUCH action. Really, the new outfits are straight out of EXTREME 90s. Though all was forgiven because they were ABSOLUTELY ADORABLE. Lion-O first real characterization was this episode, and it was good to see his personality wasn't changed from how he was generally portrayed as from the old series. It was simply expanded upon. Immature ruler with inability to deal with strong emotions and fear of failure causing him to be pompous and prone to taking risks.

Cornelious Tunar. The name of a Fishman. Tunar. So stupid at face value, but then when you consider the rest of the cast's name (Lion-O is a lion, Cheetara is a Cheeta, et cetera et cetera ...) then I can't really fault it.

Snarf: Still absolutely useless, so I'm okay with that.

Overall, I don't like the "Main Character Learns a Lesson Every Episode" formula, and hope it doesn't become a reoccuring theme. Not that they're bad episodes, but I've found those stories end up being the most predictable as a series goes on.

One flaw I found. The whole first episode was about how technology was a myth to the cats, and their downfall was technology. Now this episode there's a freakin' flying boat sailing a sand ocean and laser cannons and hydrolic harpoons and such. Just how xenophobic were these **** cats that apparently the rest of the world had technology yet they not only didn't have it, but didn't even know it existed?! Really the only gripe I've got. Oh, and all those ******* pouches.

I also spent the whole episode waiting for Lion-O to say "I'm Batman."

Not as good as the first episode, but far from bad. Still to early to write the series off as MUST WATCH or AVOID AT ALL COST.

And the Wilykids were adorable.

Edited, Aug 5th 2011 9:36pm by lolgaxe

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George Carlin wrote:

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The whole first episode was about how technology was a myth to the cats, and their downfall was technology. Now this episode there's a freakin' flying boat sailing a sand ocean and laser cannons and hydrolic harpoons and such. Just how xenophobic were these **** cats that apparently the rest of the world had technology yet they not only didn't have it, but didn't even know it existed?!

From what I understand from the 1st 2 episodes, they pretty much hid behind (and protected) their wall. That area from what the Lizard Men said was the best land(s). I take it tech was not used by all races and may be tied to Mumm-Ra.

OK so after watching Thundercats (reluctantly I might add) I honestly don't feel very optimistic about it. Maybe it's just the fact that I grew up off the original and loved it but this "reboot" was not a pleasurable experience. Not too fond of the anime style the show went with, every time Lion-O pops up on screen I think of SSJ Trunks. This coming of age story of a would-be-prince of the Saiyans of a once proud people I think can be found in a half a dozen anime if I actually wanted to look. The voice over work is decent, I will definitely give it that.

This youth theme whereas everyone is 10~15 years younger, Tigra is Lion-O's adopted brother, Cheetara is nothing more than a glorified enabler bodyguard, Snarf is just a simple pet and Panthro being MIA until they decide to throw him in for a surprise plot twist(I want my cool token black character damnit). Ugh, way too much a dramatic change for my tastes. As I write this I do realize that if I don't like it I don't have to watch it, which I won't.

tl/dr: I think this would definitely be something for today's kids who didn't watch and have no reference point to the original cartoon.

Me personally, while I do hope it somehow it gets better part of me still hopes this fizzles out and dies an early death from cancellation, leaving my childhood memeries intact. What has been seen cannot be unseen...

Another episode down, and it appears it's going to be similar to how Avatar moves along. Mostly stand alone episodes, but still a general storyline that holds it all together and leads in a certain direction. It worked for Avatar, and it might work here, but my fear is it becomes a formula and future shows follow the same way and it becomes annoying. Two shows is okay for now, and I'm sure the Korra series will probably do it as well.

Anyway, as far as this week's episode: Tons of d'aww and MOTHER @#%^IN' PANTHRO AND BATTLETANK. Liked this weeks episode more than last weeks, but much like last weeks it boiled down to "LionO learns a lesson at the end," but less pompous idiocy on his behalf.

I still can't not hear Terry McGinnis, though.

Sandinmygum the Stupendous wrote:

lolgaxe wrote:

The whole first episode was about how technology was a myth to the cats, and their downfall was technology. Now this episode there's a freakin' flying boat sailing a sand ocean and laser cannons and hydrolic harpoons and such. Just how xenophobic were these **** cats that apparently the rest of the world had technology yet they not only didn't have it, but didn't even know it existed?!

From what I understand from the 1st 2 episodes, they pretty much hid behind (and protected) their wall. That area from what the Lizard Men said was the best land(s). I take it tech was not used by all races and may be tied to Mumm-Ra.

I considered that at first, but then ... the cats had to have sent out people to explore the world, right? And not one of them saw anything? I might have to rewatch the first episode, but it just seems like this huge plot hole. Not to mention all the mines LionO had in his room, and all it takes to arm them was to slide your finger across the screen. You'd think he'd have figured it out a lot sooner than while under attack ...

I really overthink things I enjoy.

Edited, Aug 12th 2011 9:14pm by lolgaxe

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The seed people were neat. I watched this episode while playing FFXI so I'm going to have to DL it and rewatch it because I feel I missed some stuff. I like that there are other races in this series. The different lizards were cool.

And there are/were explores. LionO was buying them bombs and trinkets from that Dealer in the shady parts of town. So someone was going out, and finding what they thought was junk, but new it was some kind of tech and bringing it back. The finger swipe scene made me kind of chuckle that no one else maybe tried that and didn't explode. We all over think little things It is a re-bot of a cartoon some of us watched as kids, we will find them things that we don't like.

And there are/were explores. LionO was buying them bombs and trinkets from that Dealer in the shady parts of town. So someone was going out, and finding what they thought was junk, but new it was some kind of tech and bringing it back. The finger swipe scene made me kind of chuckle that no one else maybe tried that and didn't explode. We all over think little things It is a re-bot of a cartoon some of us watched as kids, we will find them things that we don't like.

It wasn't really something I didn't like due to the olde series, just looks like a huge plot point.

This week's episode, and I'm keeping this up mainly because Western media seems pretty under represented on these forums, If Panthro was any blacker he'd have a bucket of chicken instead of nunchucks. Ho-Ly Crap. He was mainly the muscle guy in the original, and I like how he's even more so here. I also appreciate he's wearing pants. Also, the last paragraph is touched on here. They're out and about at war and they didn't find any tech to report? Oh, and GOD **** IT I CANNOT UNHEAR MR. KRABS EVERY **** TIME GRUNE TALKS! King Claudus showed up and had a few lines. God Larry Kenney makes me nostalgia hardcore. Also, pretty **** hamfisted for the flashbacks. Almost every other line out of Grune's mouth was "I'M GOING TO BETRAY YOU." Also, I don't like how Lion-O bounces from teenager to full ****** episode to episode. Not that it matters, as the other characters seem to have vanished as anything but background images at this point. I hope this doesn't last. Also, how was Panthro repairing the Thundertank if he was essentially medieval until recently? Enjoyed the Star Wars reference, and the Thundercats Chant vs. Driller (which, coincidently, was an olde enemy. Nice touch). The Eye of Omens or whatever made a very Zeldaish sound, which I giggled at. Overall, pretty much another "we're just introducing the characters and their pasts" episode that's pretty typical of action shows like this and anime. Samoflange was mentioned, so it automatically made the episode EPIC.

Can't say it was a great episode, but still. It looks like it could use a season or two of good writing and it'll be there. I still enjoy it more than I did the original, though.

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This week, we had Lion-O and the Temple of Doom. Good to see the kits being used as little more than cute fodder, actually being useful to one of the puzzles of the temple, though admittedly that was bleedingly obvious. Everyone was useful to one portion or the other, but Panthro's seemed so contrived it annoyed me. What I did like is they finally remembered that Tygra uses a whip. The last few episodes it seemed like it was all but forgotten in exchange for a gun. Nice touch, everyone was pretty decent. What made this episode completely awesome though was: ANCIENT SPIRITS OF EVIL, TRANSFORM THIS DECAYING FORM INTO MUMM-RA, THE EVER LIVING!! Holy crap now there's a villain. Now he's definitely had a power boost. Sad, and a bit contrived ending to Mumm-ra's first fight with the Thundercats, but overall not bad. I always hate heroic sacrifices. That, plus overall cliff hanger "sad" ending fare.

Edit: Oh, and oh so subtle hint at potential Love Triangle story in the future. Consider it a prediction.

Without the spoiler, this episode was definitely better than the past "Lion-O learns a lesson" stuff that's been going on, but still feels like it is missing something that will propel it from good to amazing. Like it's got the potential, but it looks like it's waiting for something. Maybe the next episode.

Edited, Aug 26th 2011 9:00pm by lolgaxe

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Got around to watching the last 2 episodes today. I liked both, more with episode 7 and the background story. The GaoGaiGar battle armors were pretty cool But Mon Star? Where? I don't remember seeing him pop up. And I guess I don't remember, but Tigersharks were from something else?

Ah. I know about Silverhawks, it was another one of the 80s toons I liked as a kid. I do not know of the rest will have to look them up and see what I missed (being born in '86, most of the 80s toons I liked as a kid were re-runs or shows my parents somehow had recordings of to entertain me in the 90s).

God **** it this was a "Lion-O is a young impetuous idiot and learns an important lesson" episode. Anyway, still going the route I had predicted at the first episode, in that it's doing the 95% stand alone, 5% all encompassing plot similar to Avatar. Again, it touched on my pet peeve for the series. Episode freakin' one Tygra talks about how technology is a myth, and now suddenly he's under the hood of the Thundertank helping with repairs.

I'm a little annoyed that this isn't so much Thundercats as it is Lion-O and the Thundercats. The others seem to have become barely background characters. I realize the original generally focused on Lion-O, too, but not to this extent. Overall, a less than stellar episode compared to the rest. I did like the Drifter, and the Duelist was funny for me because I just watched Rurouni Kenshin with Chou being almost exactly the same character.

I want more GaoGaiGar battles, **** it.

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Maybe it'll get better in the next season and less on Lion-O learns he being a ****. Not putting money on it though. Its kinda like betting for a foot ball team that happens to have "Lion" in their name too.

It could certainly be better, and I'm certainly not enjoying the format they're following. At the same time it could be much worse as far as remakes. Look at the "new" Voltron, or the two or three attempts at Speed Racer. Mysteries Inc, the few episodes I watched, weren't horrible either but certainly didn't live up to the expectations of olde Scooby Doos. Luckily, no Scrappy.

I'm actually a little disappointed there was no new episode this week. Not so much that there wasn't one, but that it was preempted by, what I feel, a crappy CG Star Wars cartoon, and one that showed Jar Jar freakin' Binks.

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