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Cos2k1 is just ragging on stlrz_d, because he hates when people say "going in as" a specific team. It isn't like baseball, where a decision has to be made regarding which specific ballcap will be worn on the Hall of Fame plaque.

But, yes, since he would be going in as a player and not a coach, it should only read "Detroit Lions 1959–1972" beneath his bust. Although he was drafted by Cleveland, he was cut in camp before playing a game with them, so he was never officially a Brown.

The Rams' offense featuring weapons such as Marshall Faulk, Torrey Holt, and Isaac Bruce were known as "The Greatest Show on Turf"

The Steelers' offense featuring weapons such as Le'Veon Bell and Martavis Bryant should be known as "The Greatest Show on Grass"

This has nothing at all to do with respective playing surfaces at the Edward Jones Dome vs. Heinz Field.

Cos2k1 is just ragging on stlrz_d, because he hates when people say "going in as" a specific team. It isn't like baseball, where a decision has to be made regarding which specific ballcap will be worn on the Hall of Fame plaque.

But, yes, since he would be going in as a player and not a coach, it should only read "Detroit Lions 1959–1972" beneath his bust. Although he was drafted by Cleveland, he was cut in camp before playing a game with them, so he was never officially a Brown.

so the Browns have been astute evaluators of talent as far back as 1959, huh?

Cos2k1 is just ragging on stlrz_d, because he hates when people say "going in as" a specific team. It isn't like baseball, where a decision has to be made regarding which specific ballcap will be worn on the Hall of Fame plaque.

But, yes, since he would be going in as a player and not a coach, it should only read "Detroit Lions 1959–1972" beneath his bust. Although he was drafted by Cleveland, he was cut in camp before playing a game with them, so he was never officially a Brown.

so the Browns have been astute evaluators of talent as far back as 1959, huh?

Well, at least they knew enough to pick Jim Brown with the 6th pick in the 1957 Draft and held onto him.

We had the 5th pick in that draft, by the way, and we took Len Dawson. He also was a Hall of Famer, but not for us. After acquiring Bobby Layne in 1958, we ended up trading Dawson to Cleveland in 1959. They released him after a couple of seasons, and he went on to Hall of Fame stardom with the Chiefs shortly thereafter.

The Rams' offense featuring weapons such as Marshall Faulk, Torrey Holt, and Isaac Bruce were known as "The Greatest Show on Turf"

The Steelers' offense featuring weapons such as Le'Veon Bell and Martavis Bryant should be known as "The Greatest Show on Grass"

This has nothing at all to do with respective playing surfaces at the Edward Jones Dome vs. Heinz Field.

Re: LeBeau's Hall chances looking good

Originally Posted by SanAntonioSteelerFan

Today's the day!

Go Bad Word! Go Dirt!

Here's how John Clayton views their chances:
(a) Dick LeBeau, longtime coach, Detroit Lions cornerback: LeBeau is one of two senior nominees who go before the board of selectors separate from the modern-day candidates. Voters simply vote yes or no. He doesn't count against the limit of five modern-day candidates. Although he is best known as the coach who invented the zone-blitz scheme, he also was a great player who finished his career with 62 interceptions.
Chances: 80 percent;
(b)Dermontti Dawson, center, Pittsburgh Steelers: Dawson was an all-decade center for the 1990s and went to seven Pro Bowls. He played 170 games over 13 seasons.
Chances: 38 percent
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Re: LeBeau's Hall chances looking good

This morning, the 44 folks who hold the keys to admission into the Hall of Fame will meet in Fort Lauderdale to determine the next class of inductees.

The results will be announced at 5:00 p.m. ET on NFL Network. (We'll be there live, posting updates from the press conference.)

The two nominees of the Seniors Committee -- Dick LeBeau and Floyd Little -- separately will be subject to an up-or-down vote. Either man will win enshrinement with an affirmative vote of 80 percent or more.

The process for the 15 Modern Era Finalists is a little more cumbersome. The list first will be cut to 10, and then it will be reduced to five. Once five finalists have been identified, a "yes" or a "no" will be cast for each man, and every one of the five whose names generate a "yes" on 80 percent or more of the ballots will be added to the Hall of Fame.

This year, two of the five finalists surely will be receiver Jerry Rice and running back Emmitt Smith, and it would be shocking if either man gets fewer than 80 percent of the final vote.

LeBeau also is expected to conjure enough votes. Though consideration technically should be confined to his playing career, the "John Madden exception" likely will cause more than enough voters to give LeBeau the nod, given his long-time contributions as a coach and innovator of the 3-4/zone blitz scheme. (Madden, who was considered for induction based on his coaching career, benefited from his years of stellar work as a broadcaster and for his role in developing the ultimate tool for perpetually converting America's youth into pro football fans -- the Madden video game franchise.)

Beyond Smith, Rice, and LeBeau, the process this year will be a crapshoot. For each man, a case can be made for, and against, enshrinement.

There's a sense that Dent could have the edge as to the rest of the field, and that Carter would be the first of the receivers other than Rice. Others who have a strong chance include Sharpe, Haley, Jackson, and Coryell. Given that no "Hogs" are in the Hall of Fame, Grimm could have a good shot, too.