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I find the lack of weather in these games is way worse than magic. I can believe in harnessing some unseen force of the universe because we actually do it in reality, just not to the levels it has gotten in games. Electricity is pretty much just magic we dont really understand it we just know what it does and how to use it. HOWEVER: I have a huge problem believing that all these planets the games take place in are in such an orbit around their sun that there is no weather what so ever. It is always summer or it is always winter depending on where you are on the planet, sometimes it rains but there is never a tornado, hurricane, or earthquake in sight. I have a better time believing the dead are rising from the ground then I do that the planet has never experienced a hurricane

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Try Xyson, almost no magic to speak of in that game.

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Lorewise, scientists cannot explain how certain things work like dark magic in old age settings. If they could, it usually attributes to MORE magic or magical potential.

Gamewise, anything would be described by magic. If I say that I can see dead spirits of players and able to bind them together back in their bodies to ressurect them..how can I see them and how can I bind them? Magic.

If I say that a goddess gave me the ability to see, how did the goddess give me that ability and how did they become a goddess? Magic.(short read version)

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Lorewise, scientists cannot explain how certain things work like dark magic in old age settings. If they could, it usually attributes to MORE magic or magical potential.

Gamewise, anything would be described by magic. If I say that I can see dead spirits of players and able to bind them together back in their bodies to ressurect them..how can I see them and how can I bind them? Magic.

If I say that a goddess gave me the ability to see, how did the goddess give me that ability and how did they become a goddess? Magic.

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While it might be nice for magic in RPGs to be a little more internally consistent the market seems to think otherwise.

It used to be the case that casting spells in Everquest used to require that you have a "material component" that was consumed by casting the spell. You then had to replenish your stock of that item to continue casting the spell. All of that has now disappeared because players found it annoying and complained about it.

Lorewise, scientists cannot explain how certain things work like dark magic in old age settings. If they could, it usually attributes to MORE magic or magical potential.

Gamewise, anything would be described by magic. If I say that I can see dead spirits of players and able to bind them together back in their bodies to ressurect them..how can I see them and how can I bind them? Magic.

If I say that a goddess gave me the ability to see, how did the goddess give me that ability and how did they become a goddess? Magic.

Lorewise, scientists cannot explain how certain things work like dark magic in old age settings. If they could, it usually attributes to MORE magic or magical potential.

Gamewise, anything would be described by magic. If I say that I can see dead spirits of players and able to bind them together back in their bodies to ressurect them..how can I see them and how can I bind them? Magic.

If I say that a goddess gave me the ability to see, how did the goddess give me that ability and how did they become a goddess? Magic.

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Originally posted by craftseeker

It used to be the case that casting spells in Everquest used to require that you have a "material component" that was consumed by casting the spell. You then had to replenish your stock of that item to continue casting the spell. All of that has now disappeared because players found it annoying and complained about it.

Enchanter runes still require gems, you still need bones to raise a skeleton, but you're right, many reagents got removed.

What bothers me most in Everquest and other MMO that I have to turn off magic in large-scale raids because I can't see through all the light, which takes away much of the....magic of magic.

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Yeah, how dare fantasy be unrealistic for people without an imagination!

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