Rocafella: Not suprised no-one's kibitzed here. I tend to follow the old experession 'The knight on the rim is grim.' I just felt that the space on this page was unnecessarily boring! The knight on a5 presures the bishop which can easily move out of harms way and the knight then looks ridiculous with no good moves.

Joshka: I don't have access now to any larger database than we have here, but I'd like to know if 15...Re8 as my opponent just played, has any merit, or is it still book in other lines?...15...ed4 seems to be the only line in this chessgames database. I lost the game, but probably due to some wrong middle game moves on my part:-)..thanks in advance

Joshka: After my 11.d4 my opponent went ...Nd7 then 12.Nbd2...cd4 13.cd4...Bf6 14.Nf1...Nc6 15.Be3....then he plays the Re8. I was shocked at myself that I was able to follow theory for the first 15 moves for white! All I was doing was just trying to use logic, cause there are just too many lines for me to remember anyway...thanks for responding.

refutor: i'm excited about the 10. ...d5 move in the tchigorin. i played the tchigorin years and years ago but i found that White got an advantage without trying very hard, just playing the normal Nb1-d2-f1-g3 and going at the king. i'm happy to have the closed lopez back in my repertoire :)

refutor: after 2 months of considering 10. ...d5 is it for shock value only? the 11.exd5 e4 lines look good for Black, but 11.d4 (in particular) and some others look pretty tough for Black. if black wants to play ...d5 should he do it on the 8th move only? any theoreticians out there wishing to comment?

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