dominant experience since we began recording (writing) our experiencesour memory is different

Men lived like gods without sorrow of heart, remote and free from toil and grief: miserable age rested not on them; but with legs and arms never failing they made merry with feasting beyond the reach of all devils. When they died, it was as though they were overcome with sleep, and they had all good things; for the fruitful earth unforced bare them fruit abundantly and without stint. They dwelt in ease and peace.

tricky topic for dragonsin my experiencethey normally kill each other in the "frenzy" of the topic so you end up with none , or the winner , their translation of singular effect so we agreed , they all either put their hands up together or leave them downso we all know where we are, topic upon topicit translates:if they all keep their hands downthere is no objectionif they all put they hands up they all agree

Men lived like gods without sorrow of heart, remote and free from toil and grief: miserable age rested not on them; but with legs and arms never failing they made merry with feasting beyond the reach of all devils. When they died, it was as though they were overcome with sleep, and they had all good things; for the fruitful earth unforced bare them fruit abundantly and without stint. They dwelt in ease and peace.