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Re: Granger traded to Philly

According to Candace, Danny's physical is on Saturday*, and I believe the league won't let any of the traded guys play until they've all passed physicals, in case the trade gets rescinded (cf Tyson Chandler to OKC trade in 2009). It's very rare of course, but have to cover all possibilities.

*Edit: Whoops, seems I remembered wrong. CB's tweet said "tomorrow" yesterday, so yeah the players can be cleared soon.

Re: Granger traded to Philly

Thank God!!! Most overrated Pacer in history. When OJ went to the D-League, Granger was literally the worst player on our roster. Sick and f'ing tired of all the excuses made for Granger's lack of shooting, on/off ball movement, ball handling ability, desire to compete defensively, or protecting the basketball. The man held us back and it wasn't until he was injured that we flourished. One good season on a bad team does not make you a great player, especially if it's followed by 5 years of awful-average.

I have never been a huge Granger fan, but I always kinda thought that Croshere fella was more overrated.

Re: Granger traded to Philly

Can't you waive the physical? Why wouldn't Phillie waive it, they didn't trade for him to have him play. Teams trade players all the time that aren't even in the league. I could see the Pacers requiring it for Turner and if some hidden injury was there then nullify the trade, but not Phillie. It almost has to work that way....

Re: Granger traded to Philly

This is yet another example of why Larry Bird is basically the best executive in the business. Dude has added Scola, Bynum, and Evan Turner over the last 7 months, and that's after building a top 3 or so core from 2008-2012.

You can't let sentimental feelings get in the way of maxing out a championship opportunity. The Pacers have a golden opportunity this season.

It is also another message from Bird to the team. "Do you guys want to win a title, or sit and whine? Maybe you don't want it enough." This is an example of the competitive fire Bird possesses that our team itself has not shown. Time to poop or get off the pot, guys.

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Re: Granger traded to Philly

Woke up today still feeling good about the trade even though I will miss Granger a lot. I was willing just to wait it out and see if he could get his old form back and there were signs but not enough IMO to not pull this trade.

The real question will be chemistry and how much can be done in 20 some games to build this team up to the level that will be even better than what Granger provided as the sixth man.

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Re: Granger traded to Philly

I also wonder if the Pacers will ever trout out a Stephenson-Turner-George-West-Hibbert lineup. Turner, being a much lesser version of Penny Hardaway, is capable of playing point forward, and we know Lance can bring it up as well. Size wise, that's eerily similar to the '95 Magic position by position.

Re: Granger traded to Philly

I also wonder if the Pacers will ever trout out a Stephenson-Turner-George-West-Hibbert lineup. Turner, being a much lesser version of Penny Hardaway, is capable of playing point forward, and we know Lance can bring it up as well. Size wise, that's eerily similar to the '95 Magic position by position.

I am personally more excited that we can actually run a fast break when Lance leaves the game. The Pacers fast break efficiency was bad at 22 while Philly was at 12. I like easy points as long as we don't get suckered into running too much.

Re: Granger traded to Philly

Thank God!!! Most overrated Pacer in history. When OJ went to the D-League, Granger was literally the worst player on our roster. Sick and f'ing tired of all the excuses made for Granger's lack of shooting, on/off ball movement, ball handling ability, desire to compete defensively, or protecting the basketball. The man held us back and it wasn't until he was injured that we flourished. One good season on a bad team does not make you a great player, especially if it's followed by 5 years of awful-average.

Re: Granger traded to Philly

Miami is 9-6 in the 15 games Wade has missed this season. They are 30-8 with him in the lineup.

It's comparable to our struggles on second night of back to back where we are 8-7, and then 33-6 in other games. And as Zach Lowe points out virtually every time we lose on twitter, back to backs do not exist in the playoffs.

Re: Granger traded to Philly

Do you think there is any possibility Granger will be bought out and then signed by Miami?

I really don't see why they need him unless they decide to replace Lewis. Miami needs a big. It would suck for Danny to sign there because obviously wouldn't be able to root for him, but he's not going to threaten us all. He's a terrible matchup against all of our wings, and he can't guard West in the post.

Re: Granger traded to Philly

I really don't see why they need him unless they decide to replace Lewis. Miami needs a big. It would suck for Danny to sign there because obviously wouldn't be able to root for him, but he's not going to threaten us all. He's a terrible matchup against all of our wings, and he can't guard West in the post.

Um Granger is pretty damn strong. I think he could hold his own against David West. Excellent post defender.

Not trying to bag on Danny, but if that's true, then maybe he should have shown a little more fire when he played this season. I hate when guys are "pissed" because they are called on not living up to expectations. If you don't want to get traded, play better.