You can't possibly bash black or hispanic people for commmitting a higher rate of crimes over white people until minimum wage reaches a level a human
being can actually live off. When you can't feed your kids on mimimum wage people get desperate. THAT IS why so many are locked up in a cage.

Education is one of the worst in the modern world. We continue to lower the passing grades in order to cover up the uncreative dumb down education
our children now receive. So our children graduate school at an illiterate stage trying to make it on minimum wage ending up locked in a cage.

I know a lot of people may hate my politics but you NEED to understand Democracy and Freedom ARE NOT SYNONOMOUS. Every single thing you buy from
china is most likely produced by some 8 year old working 16 hour shifts 7 days a week. 20 cents an hour 1 meal and no fu**ing sleep. The factories
they work in have no air conditioning and often reach over 100 degrees. It's a modern form of slavery and enough is enough.

Every wonder where all those old electronic pieces of equipment end up? A large portion goes to china where landfills are shared on the same streets
with living people. Children playing and sitting amongst piles and piles of hazardous landfill less then 30 feet from where they sleep.

It's a wonderfull world isn't it? So before you start bashing people who take welfare checks or food stamps, maybe you better take a big step back
and see what the f&ck you have been supporting and aiding to exist in this world.

Congratulations on saying something just as ignorant and uneducated as the Brazilian president.

He might have been off base somewhat, and Politically incorrect, but the fact remains that the most vocal racists who speak of "Oppression", and the
"White Devil", are typically they themselves recipients of Employment, Benefits, and Government funded Aide courtesy of "White People".

Oh, and yes, by-in-large Latin America is far more racist than what many encounter within the United States. They not only have Skin Color prejudice
in Latin America, but many nations also judge you on what SHADE of what color your skin is.

[edit on 3-26-2009 by TheAgentNineteen]

Im fed up of white people complaining about black people being on welfare and being lazy etc first of all 75% of black families are not on welfare and
if you dont like paying for it then go blame your ancestors and im sure black people werent lazy when they were working 24 hours a day picking cotton
and growing sugar to make (white) countries rich and im sure what the Brazilian president meant was that these people who claim that they are the most
intellegent majority of the time and look down on other races, refuse to listen or take advice from others because they believe that they are superior
for example America would never have taken financial advice from china before now has dug themselves a great big hole and fell right in it and he's
probably also refering to the people who created the financial system in the first place which were ALL white people. Castro's probably laughing
right now.

It's still a personal choice. If you're poor and want a better life then get off your ass and work honestly for it. Rich people become criminals too
so I guess there is more to it than being poor.

I'm soooo sick of hearing how 'minorities' commit more crime because there are more of them who are poor. The decision to become a criminal is made
because it's an easy way out. There are many many poor people who choose not to become criminals. Why is that?

I grew up in a poor household. Went to public school. We had little compared to many of these so called poor people today who decide to become
criminals.

Somehow I made it this far without being a criminal. Never robbed anyone, stole a car or dealt drugs.

Want to know why? Not because I wasn't poor. Not because I wouldn't have liked to have had some of the things people with more money had. Not even
because the thought of quick money wasn't tempting. It's because my parents taught me better.

Many of these criminal types feel they 'deserve better' but want it the easy way. Rather than work 40 hrs, it's much easier to just steal it. And,
I do admit the thought of making a years salary in a few weeks by dealing drugs sure is tempting. Unfortunately, I have morals so I work a job I'd
rather not be at rather than push drugs and help people ruin their lives.

I know how our potus got elected and my main post was to point out how almost everything today is about race.

I also want to apologize to the mod who has been working overtime on this thread (I was hoping this thread would not bring up this much tension)

And one more note. Poverity is not a scapegoat for criminals the other user hit the nail right on the head. Bad parenting and abuse is the #1 for most
people who become a criminal. If you dont belive that then ask a local law enforcement officer how fast a child abuser / molester makes it in prison
before he gets his rear end beat down.

My family came up from the poverity level to high middle class without ever committing a crime. It can be done you just have to put your heart into
it.

These comments are stupid. Even if the thruth is that banksters might be white skinned and ans blue eyed.

Stupid comments because, banksters are a tiny minority among a minority. Backlash could be the outcome for many white folks who have nothing to do
with the economic collapse.

In Zimbawe the whites are gone, it is hell. South Africa is a new zimbawe in a making.

I don't want people to think it is a supremacist statement. The problem is that in such countries whites people were the economical elite, or at
least the agricultural one. The country was able to eat and export.

Whites did leave, often in a brutal fashion. But they were not replaced, or if they were, it was by uncompetency or corruption. Making it frankly far
worse than it was.

South Africa could have been a paradise, but they fail by replacing aparthied by chaos. 1 million already left SA.

Da silva's comments are inflamatory, and I guess it could be well received by the poors in Brazil, witch are mainly from black and indian descent. If
the outcome is white bashing. Many will leave.

Guess witch whites will leave ????

The banksters with white skin with blue eye, BECAUSE they have the monney to get out easily. They have hundreds of thousands needed to fill
application in Australia, Canada, Europe.

The others will leave if they can, or maybe later be be beheaded, slaughtered in their house like South Africa ?

I acknowledge some major economical progress were made in Brazil lately. But, I don't think such comments made by President Lulla, will help or boost
the economy in Brazil.

Really stupid comments since Brazil had big expectation as a new economical power.

Originally posted by crazyashdenton15
if you dont like paying for it then go blame your ancestors

:shk:

Some of my ancestors were native american indian.
Some of my ancestors didn't come here until after slavery ended in the USA.
The ancestors that were here fought with the North against slavery.
One of my ancestors died fighting slavery.

Most white people in America did not own slaves. However, a large percentage of freed black people owned other blacks. Slavery is endemic to Africa
where black people routinely sell other black people into slavery. THEY STILL DO IT TO THIS DAY

And as far as blaming people on welfare for their state in life - there are two groups. One group is there due to a turn of bad luck but plan on
picking themselves up and trying again. The other group is there because they are leeches on society and they have no intention of actually working
for their money. I absolutely blame the second group for making their own bad decisions . They have no self resonsibility .

Black people in America who had ancestors as slaves here don't have a corner market on slave-ancestors. My non-black ancestors were slaves. Slavery
was rampent in Europe and in the Middle East as well as in Asia. It's still a big problem in Asia and in Africa.

I don't sit back on my butt and whine about how my native american ancestors were treated poorly and I don't sit around expecting the English
government to pay me because my Irish ancestors were slaves to the English. No one alive at this time had anything to do with what happened hundreds
of years ago. Not in Europe. Not in the USA.

Remember history so that it doesn't repeat itself, but also remember that If you keep looking backwards you'll never go forwards.

nothing sells like the the thruth people who mope about racisim are vonrable to the effection of human emotion there is truth to a lot of racial
prejudice it should not be forgoton a great tool to use if you need to colaborate a means of over powering people when u might find your self in a
vonrable situation

Well...normally I would take this time to eviscerate the pathetic argument of the very obviously brilliant & insightful Brazilian "El Presidente",
but I must now cast my "devilish" blue eyes to my personal "WHEEL OF OPPRESSION" as I give it the delightful daily spin to determine which
unfortunate "non-Caucasian" race shall receive the brunt of my daily hammer-fisted GLOBAL tyranny.

Well, now I must bid you all a fond "fare thee well" as it is now my charge to issue directives to the Cabal of international power brokers which
eagerly await my daily call.

Oh wait.... sorry bout that I forgot, I'm just another white guy with blue eyes that is about to head in to work and bust my arse for the purpose of
earning a miserable wage in a attempt to sustain my family as well as contributing(even now) to the various charitable organizations I have supported
over the years. Boy is it tough being "THE MAN"~

and while i really wish i had seen swatmans comment (just out of curiosity)

i have to say this, being white myself:

This is no different than white people clenching their purses or patting their wallets when they walk down the street next to a black guy.

This is no different than a man from Puerto Rico getting angry because you called him Mexican.

This is just racial stereotypes coming back to bite white people in the ass.

No, it's not all white people. It's not all black people, and it's not all latino people, in any stereotype.

But, these fat filthy rich white business men have finally created an atmosphere where white people are finally getting a taste of their own
medicine.

A taste, in my opinion, that is long overdue.

[edit on 27-3-2009 by Fremd]

Excellent points!

It is so very true. White people do stereotype other races.. even when they dont mean to or know they are. For me, I went to a school of mainly
african-americans, and I saw first hand how they really act. They like to look hard, but when you get to know them and dont judge them, they are some
of the nicest and loyal people you could meet.

Thats just one example of people needing to learn from their own experiences and not judging an entire race based on the actions of a few people here
and there

Here I was thinking the housing community reinvestment act that forced the banks to give loans to under qualitied people, many who were hispanic as
well as white was the cause of the meltdown. Just because the banks will let you have a loan doesn't mean you have to take it.

Oh, Jesus. White people. And White people blame all the brown people. I love this. I love how we're all so busy trying our hardest to find someone
who deserves blame. Everyone does. From the top to the bottom, there has been no accountability.

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