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The case for murder

Here is an animation that I did based on the police theory of the case:

A few notes regarding the pictures that were used in the animation:I resized a female to be 5 feet, 3 and a half inches using an assumption that the railing is 36” high.The final hanging location is also based on the above assumption. She is depicted as standing on the outside of the railing; she, of course, was on the inside.She is depicted as bent over backwards because I wanted to show where the face would be.

Standing:

Bent:

Falling:

9’ Mark:

Final location 9’2”

Where are the injuries?

The autopsy report says the following with respect to the head and torso of RN

Head:On the central forehead there is a 1 x 1-3/4 inch group of three vertically oriented parallel, thin, linear abrasions measuring from inferior to superior, ½ inch, 5/8 inch, and 5/8 inch (discontinuous) respectively. The most inferior one is within ¼ inch of the medial edge of the left eyebrow. On the right upper forehead, just past the hairline, there is a ¼ red abrasion.

Torso:None

So, given that her face would have be scraping over nearly 1 1/2 feet of railing, where is the injury to her nose???More importantly, with her torso going over 2 feet of railing, why is there not a single abrasion or injury of any kind???

A few notes regarding the pictures that were used in the animation:I resized a female to be 5 feet, 3 and a half inches using an assumption that the railing is 36” high.The final hanging location is also based on the above assumption. She is depicted as standing on the outside of the railing; she, of course, was on the inside.She is depicted as bent over backwards because I wanted to show where the face would be.

Standing:

Bent:

Falling:

9’ Mark:

Final location 9’2”

Where are the injuries?

The autopsy report says the following with respect to the head and torso of RN

Head:On the central forehead there is a 1 x 1-3/4 inch group of three vertically oriented parallel, thin, linear abrasions measuring from inferior to superior, ½ inch, 5/8 inch, and 5/8 inch (discontinuous) respectively. The most inferior one is within ¼ inch of the medial edge of the left eyebrow. On the right upper forehead, just past the hairline, there is a ¼ red abrasion.

Torso:None

So, given that her face would have be scraping over nearly 1 1/2 feet of railing, where is the injury to her nose???More importantly, with her torso going over 2 feet of railing, why is there not a single abrasion or injury of any kind???

Cynic my friend, your illustrations are worth a billion words!! Absolutely fantastic!!! So, if the hanging occurred as the LE PC stated, we now have a visual as to why the injuries incurred, do not fit the method they stated was employed!! Can't help but say it again, you are BRILLIANT!!!!

Last edited by SunnieRN; 09-12-2011 at 11:02 AM.

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If I forget to mention it. Everything I post is my opinion, right or wrong, good or bad.If you have questions about Rebecca Zahaus death, please watch this:http://websleuths.com/forums/showpos...00&postcount=1

Next point. The blood found on Rebecca's fingers and feet. Where is the heck did it come from? Her hands were bound behind her back, and her feet did not have cuts, but there was blood on the top of the,.

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If I forget to mention it. Everything I post is my opinion, right or wrong, good or bad.If you have questions about Rebecca Zahaus death, please watch this:http://websleuths.com/forums/showpos...00&postcount=1

Another point. If Rebecca wrote the letters on the door, why were they painted so high on the door. Rebecca would have had to reach UP to paint the letters. Why do that?

Why that message?

If she was despondent over Max's 'turn for the worse', why not apologize?

Why paint/deface JS property?

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If I forget to mention it. Everything I post is my opinion, right or wrong, good or bad.If you have questions about Rebecca Zahaus death, please watch this:http://websleuths.com/forums/showpos...00&postcount=1

If it was from the garage, was it in a package/new? Then where is the package.

If it was rope that was not in a package, where is the dna from it being wound and put on the shelf?

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"This Time We Get It Right!"
If you can read this, thank a teacher, if it's in English, thank a soldier!
If I forget to mention it. Everything I post is my opinion, right or wrong, good or bad.If you have questions about Rebecca Zahaus death, please watch this:http://websleuths.com/forums/showpos...00&postcount=1

Another point. If Rebecca wrote the letters on the door, why were they painted so high on the door. Rebecca would have had to reach UP to paint the letters. Why do that?

Why that message?

If she was despondent over Max's 'turn for the worse', why not apologize?

Why paint/deface JS property?

I'm the exact same height as Rebecca is alleged to be, and it wouldn't be a stretch at all to paint the letters at that level. In fact, that is the height I would put them at, were I to paint something at that level.

Next point. The blood found on Rebecca's fingers and feet. Where is the heck did it come from? Her hands were bound behind her back, and her feet did not have cuts, but there was blood on the top of the,.

Can you please link me to the part about blood on her fingers? I asked on another thread but didn't receive an answer. TIA.

Next point. The blood found on Rebecca's fingers and feet. Where is the heck did it come from? Her hands were bound behind her back, and her feet did not have cuts, but there was blood on the top of the,.

Could the blood on her feet not be from the vagnial blood discharge? Vaginal blood discharge is not unusual in deaths from hanging.

Death by hanging, whether an execution or a suicide, has been observed to affect the genitals of both men and women. In women, the labia and clitoris will become engorged and there may be a discharge of blood from the vagina