We’re told we’re paranoid and delusional for our tome that registration’s only purpose is to tell the government where they all are so they can be rounded up when a pretext presents itself. Well, here’s what’s happening in California:

The 10-bill package constitutes the single largest gun control push in decades in the Golden State, which already boasts some of the nation’s strictest gun laws. It joins equally controversial proposals from Assembly Democrats that would regulate and tax ammunition sales and consider taking the state’s 166,000 registered assault weapons from their owners.

If you New Yorkers register your guns, you’re friggin nuts. Also, next time some gun control advocate tells you no one is talking about taking your guns, take a copy of Time, roll it up, and smack them with it (assault magazine).

The registered owners, of course, since registration has nothing to do with crime. In fact, the pro-registration forces see higher crime as a benefit. Once they have you and I disarmed and there is still lots of violent crime, they’ll have an excuse to begin openly deploying their blackshirted troops on the streets for “public safety.”

I do not believe that “Fudd” is a derogatory term for “hunter”; I believe it is a derogatory term who a hunter who says, “I don’t care if the government outlaws guns, as long as the rifle that I hunt with remains legal”.

Exactly. I have no beef with hunters as a general proposition. But I have nothing but contempt for the assholes who are silent, if not enthusiastic, accomplices to every gun control scheme to wander down the pike as long as they get to keep their hunting rifles.

We knew this was coming for years, I just didn’t expect it so soon- the zero feature “assault weapon” ban. This completely undermines the national conversation that the antis are having. How can they say it is these “military features” that make all the difference, while at the same time calling it a “loophole” that allows identically functioning weapons that aren’t “military –style” to be sold in California? You would think they would get on the same page, but of course the reason is they don’t have to. Those who hate guns want to keep striking while the iron is hot, those who are willing to think this trough are already on our side, and the people who just don’t care still don’t care.

And the state legislature is a super majority to the antis now. Help me Obi Wan Gura. You’re my only hope.

Completely agree. If you are going to draw the first line between mainstream guns that are more effective than others (for good or for bad), then it would be at; semi-auto fed from a detachable magazine. This perfectly illustrates incrementalism. That is too big of a bite (even for california) so they had to push this “milirltary-style” crap.

That is the first thing I thought of (“new technology”???)- but I believe they are talking about the scourge of guns chambered in .45 long colt that can also shoot .410. The Taurus Judge is already banned under SBS rules, so maybe they are expanding it to long guns.

“We’re told we’re paranoid and delusional for our tome that registration’s only purpose is to tell the government where they all are. . .”

Now we’ve demonstrated that we were right all along. Meanwhile, in other threads, people have been describing conditions for expanded background checks, that they would fine acceptable. What are background checks if not automated registration of gun owners, if not of the guns themselves? (Actually, they are both.)

I just want to thank all the “reasonable” gun rights advocates I’ve worked with in my life, with special accolades to those specializing in Cracking Down on Crime.

Gun owners in the blue states have some tough choices after the courts have a swing at these bans.

The way I see it, they can leave, they can comply, they can quietly resist by refusing to comply, or they can openly defy the law and accept the consequences.

I think compliance is retarded, personally. Anything registered WILL be a cause of hassle and be subject to eventual confiscation. The Democrats in NY clearly felt it appropriate to hold the FOIA-exemption out as a threat so I would not be surprised to see the registry published, requiring said gun owner to move in the future anyways.

Besides, these laws will be so complex and confusing, and none of them will require demonstrating criminal intent, so it will be trivial for the state to arrest you and charge you with something; because everything is a draconian felony, you WILL plea bargain down to a misdemeanor and be glad you get off with probation or a short stay in jail and a hefty fine. Everyone is guilty of something. There’s just not much point in trying to comply with the law under such a system. Compliance merely turns you into a target on a list for arbitrary enforcement action when the local SWAT team decides it needs to do a “compliance inspection” to gin up some funds.

Even if the state boyos don’t come to your door, those who don’t comply have significant downside.

Any banned weapon can be seized when a LEO sees it, the owner brought up on charges. The state can go after those who have registered, as it has the time, but you cannot use a banned weapon, even for a lawful purpose, without facing charges yourself.

This has another dimension. Since you are now a criminal, you will be reluctant to discuss what you have with others. You will be reluctant to travel with the banned weapon, lest an ordinary traffic issue turn into felony charges and seizure. You are guilty, which will color any interaction with LEO’s, not knowing what they know or don’t.

This tends to isolate people from each other. It makes planning for emergencies more difficult, the formation of a militia in response to any significant threat harder. You are somewhat immobilized, and develop distrust in LEO’s or any government rep. Having someone do work in your home may be problematic for the amount of space you have to conceal “bad stuff”.

Damage is done to the fabric of society, and the hold of government increased.

Since government can’t get them all, when they do find someone, an example will be made, to the fullest extent of law and the imagination of a prosecutor. They’ll examine your dog to find out if they can add sodomy to the writ. You can bet any family members they can get to will have their homes tossed, in case they are accomplices.