What's worse is that people are confusing IDEs with code generation. Good IDEs aren't about code generation, they're about code organization and navigation. The IDE isn't there to save me typing, it's there to help me understand the code better than a text editor can.

One can have both an awesome terse dynamic language, and a kick ass IDE with colored code, intellisense, awesome code navigation, and more, all at the same time. It's called Smalltalk.

It could be one of those cultural divides where good things happen on either side, but it could just be like the cultural divide between Rubyists and Java programmers, i.e., a rift based on good sense.