I think this could really be a huge boon to farmers and consumers. It reduces the amount of pesticide necessary to keep these caterpillars at bay, and that's good for our health. Especially so, as the number of autoimmune diseases increases due to the use of pesticides and anti-biotics in our food sources. If we can limit genetic engineering to the methods used to minimize pest harm and not in the foods themselves, I think it's an overall win for everyone.

Oh my god the comments on the article are so stupid. I try to keep optimistic, but are western education systems really this awful? 90% of the fears towards any form of GM have zero basis in any science, any incident, or any situation that has ever arisen. Worst part is, no matter how many well documented and peer-reviewed papers get published every year, nobody complaining is ever going to read a single one. Sometimes I wonder why my fellow scientists often seem so absorbed in their own work and tire of trying to explain it to strangers; then I see abhorrent disingenuous detritus like this. If you are legitimately concerned by GM products, there are legitimate ways to find out many of the facts. Reading crappy articles like this is not one of them.

gmpilot:Oh my god the comments on the article are so stupid. I try to keep optimistic, but are western education systems really this awful? 90% of the fears towards any form of GM have zero basis in any science, any incident, or any situation that has ever arisen. Worst part is, no matter how many well documented and peer-reviewed papers get published every year, nobody complaining is ever going to read a single one. Sometimes I wonder why my fellow scientists often seem so absorbed in their own work and tire of trying to explain it to strangers; then I see abhorrent disingenuous detritus like this. If you are legitimately concerned by GM products, there are legitimate ways to find out many of the facts. Reading crappy articles like this is not one of them.

The naturalistic fallacy has really dug its heels deep into American culture, unfortunately.

Why oh why oh why is there so much anti-GMO butthurt in the west? The article says that there are concerns that people could be harmed if they accidentally ate the GM pests........how? The whole point is that these flies reduce population by preventing the next generation from being born, so unless there are readers of the Daily Mail that happen to be this one species, they're pretty safe.

And fark the use of the prefix 'franken', nobody is stitching these things together from dead things.

mgshamster:gmpilot: Oh my god the comments on the article are so stupid. I try to keep optimistic, but are western education systems really this awful? 90% of the fears towards any form of GM have zero basis in any science, any incident, or any situation that has ever arisen. Worst part is, no matter how many well documented and peer-reviewed papers get published every year, nobody complaining is ever going to read a single one. Sometimes I wonder why my fellow scientists often seem so absorbed in their own work and tire of trying to explain it to strangers; then I see abhorrent disingenuous detritus like this. If you are legitimately concerned by GM products, there are legitimate ways to find out many of the facts. Reading crappy articles like this is not one of them.

The naturalistic fallacy has really dug its heels deep into American culture, unfortunately.

mgshamster:gmpilot: Oh my god the comments on the article are so stupid. I try to keep optimistic, but are western education systems really this awful? 90% of the fears towards any form of GM have zero basis in any science, any incident, or any situation that has ever arisen. Worst part is, no matter how many well documented and peer-reviewed papers get published every year, nobody complaining is ever going to read a single one. Sometimes I wonder why my fellow scientists often seem so absorbed in their own work and tire of trying to explain it to strangers; then I see abhorrent disingenuous detritus like this. If you are legitimately concerned by GM products, there are legitimate ways to find out many of the facts. Reading crappy articles like this is not one of them.

The naturalistic fallacy has really dug its heels deep into American culture, unfortunately.

You should try my all natural herbal cure for stupidity. It's called hemlock. Used by one of the greatest minds of all time!

Anthracite:Never seen by nature is a valid reason why this should be a "No".

How is that a valid reason? Are you going to turn in your computer after saying that, as those have never been seen in nature. Neither have contact lenses, toy sized dogs, the modern potato, antiperspirant, and pretty much everything we do every day.

This is quite the environmentally friendly way of dealing with pests that they're trying to kill anyway.

madnessupmysoul:Why oh why oh why is there so much anti-GMO butthurt in the west? The article says that there are concerns that people could be harmed if they accidentally ate the GM pests........how? The whole point is that these flies reduce population by preventing the next generation from being born, so unless there are readers of the Daily Mail that happen to be this one species, they're pretty safe.

And fark the use of the prefix 'franken', nobody is stitching these things together from dead things.

It's a holdover from nuclear bombs, radiation, and science fiction. Lots of people who don't care about covering their produce with tons of chemicals get all scared of "genetics," because they don't know that everything we eat has been "genetically modified" over thousands of years.

ThatDarkFellow:I say good on them. Look how well the whole killer bee thing played out.

/spiders next?

Killer bees were made with good old natural cross breeding method of genetic modification, which resulted in a good and natural randomized mixture of genes to produce completely unknown effects (which is good because it is natural); these moths were made with evil and unnatural precise gene modification to precisely control exactly what was going to happen with the newly expressed gene with no randomization and a strong likelihood of no other effects (which is evil and wrong because it is the synthetic way of modifying genes).

Both methods are technically GM (genetic modification), but one is clearly wrong and bad and should be properly labeled so people know what foods they're eating, because the good and right way of doing it never produces anything bad and doesn't even have to be labeled GM even though it is. Because natural is better than synthetic always and forever./Strawman? You bet your ass it ain't. I hear these exact arguments from my own family on a regular basis.//My brother's new girlfriend believes conventional farming will destroy the planet, and she honestly fears for the survival of the earth if we don't all switch to organic soon.///Yes, she thinks organic farming will literally (def 1) save the planet.

Anthracite:mgshamster: gmpilot: Oh my god the comments on the article are so stupid. I try to keep optimistic, but are western education systems really this awful? 90% of the fears towards any form of GM have zero basis in any science, any incident, or any situation that has ever arisen. Worst part is, no matter how many well documented and peer-reviewed papers get published every year, nobody complaining is ever going to read a single one. Sometimes I wonder why my fellow scientists often seem so absorbed in their own work and tire of trying to explain it to strangers; then I see abhorrent disingenuous detritus like this. If you are legitimately concerned by GM products, there are legitimate ways to find out many of the facts. Reading crappy articles like this is not one of them.

The naturalistic fallacy has really dug its heels deep into American culture, unfortunately.

gmpilot:Oh my god the comments on the article are so stupid. I try to keep optimistic, but are western education systems really this awful? 90% of the fears towards any form of GM have zero basis in any science, any incident, or any situation that has ever arisen. Worst part is, no matter how many well documented and peer-reviewed papers get published every year, nobody complaining is ever going to read a single one. Sometimes I wonder why my fellow scientists often seem so absorbed in their own work and tire of trying to explain it to strangers; then I see abhorrent disingenuous detritus like this. If you are legitimately concerned by GM products, there are legitimate ways to find out many of the facts. Reading crappy articles like this is not one of them.

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