Not so excited for it, but it felt like it should be posted anyways. It's going to be priced at $100 and comes in Black and Tan.And guess what?! You could put on BT4/98 stocks on it! Pre-orders are open and it will be released in June. It's on shop4paintball.com and paintballgateway.comEMC - BlackEMC - TanShop4Paintball EMC (Shows price)

Looks nice, but they probably could have just come out with the Apex Shaft tip and saved money on making the bodies. I would imagine they'd sell more tips than bodies.

If you look carefully it says "optional attachments"... So maybe they are I don't know.

Yes, I know. I was saying they didn't need to come out with the body, just the tip. It is because you will probably be able to buy it separately that I was saying they'll sell more tips than body kits.

Looks nice, but they probably could have just come out with the Apex Shaft tip and saved money on making the bodies. I would imagine they'd sell more tips than bodies.

If you look carefully it says "optional attachments"... So maybe they are I don't know.

Yes, I know. I was saying they didn't need to come out with the body, just the tip. It is because you will probably be able to buy it separately that I was saying they'll sell more tips than body kits.

Why would you mount a red dot directly behind a hopper? seems rather pointless unless it helps you accurately press buttons on the hopper

For occluded sights. You look down the gun with both eyes open. One eye sees the dot, the other eye sees downrange, and your brain superimposes the two images onto each other, which puts the dot on what you see downrange. So, not pointless.

Why would you mount a red dot directly behind a hopper? seems rather pointless unless it helps you accurately press buttons on the hopper

For occluded sights. You look down the gun with both eyes open. One eye sees the dot, the other eye sees downrange, and your brain superimposes the two images onto each other, which puts the dot on what you see downrange. So, not pointless.

Why would you mount a red dot directly behind a hopper? seems rather pointless unless it helps you accurately press buttons on the hopper

For occluded sights. You look down the gun with both eyes open. One eye sees the dot, the other eye sees downrange, and your brain superimposes the two images onto each other, which puts the dot on what you see downrange. So, not pointless.

I'm not looking to start a beef with you Cooky, I respect you but has someone from PE raped your dog or whatnot? You consistently show them plenty of hate.

For the haters, If you don't like it don't buy it. Simple as that. I think it's a smart move. PE is trying to target that market niche that might want something 'tacticool' that isn't a goddam Tippmann or BT (not hatin' on them, I think the Phenom and the TM-15 are great guns, they're not for me but I dig them.) Before the EMC announcement, I swear, I was looking at the Etha as a back-up/loaner and another 'tactical' gun that I can whip out whenever I need something I can mount stuff on (in Canada you must play indoors during the winter and you want a LED flashlight, trust me.) Now I can have both! Plus I prefer the sci-fi look over the 'real' milsim look. I think they did a great design job. Of course, I would have liked a single trigger frame and maybe a large 'tactical' grip that would have covered the reg, but I understand from a marketing perspective why they haven't gone that way.

Now, I think $100 is a tad too much. I mean we're talking about two plastic halves. $75 would be more like it.

Why would they put a red dot in the picture when the feedneck clearly is in the way? Pretty there's not some crazy way to make that work without an elbow ._.

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Why would you mount a red dot directly behind a hopper? seems rather pointless unless it helps you accurately press buttons on the hopper

For occluded sights. You look down the gun with both eyes open. One eye sees the dot, the other eye sees downrange, and your brain superimposes the two images onto each other, which puts the dot on what you see downrange. So, not pointless.

Why would they put a red dot in the picture when the feedneck clearly is in the way? Pretty there's not some crazy way to make that work without an elbow ._.

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Why would you mount a red dot directly behind a hopper? seems rather pointless unless it helps you accurately press buttons on the hopper

For occluded sights. You look down the gun with both eyes open. One eye sees the dot, the other eye sees downrange, and your brain superimposes the two images onto each other, which puts the dot on what you see downrange. So, not pointless.

True, but it looks like clearance would be an issue with practically any loader/sight combination.I'm surprised the holosight/Empire loader combo they picked worked.

I'd still shoot a g1 over this. Half the price of this kit and and etha, shoots better, albeit not quite as efficient. Use that saved money to tacticool it out.

I don't know if the G-1/SP-1 is decidedly better but it is an awesome gun, and yes cheaper too. I'll admit though that if I had to shoot brittle paint I think I'd rather have my SP-1 than the Etha. The thing is, I've heard that GOG ain't doing too well and they may not be around forever. Now if that is true, it would be the hell of a shame.

I just think it looks stupid, like someone took a rifle and hotglued a Etha frame on the bottom, its not proportioned properly.

@ Cookybiscuit : I don't necessarily agree but the you way you phrased it made me laugh (in a good way) . Well, ok I kinda see what you mean -)

I still think it's a good move, but will it sell I dunno. More options is always a good thing. But most people that go for 'tacticool' choose their stuff based on looks and "realism". You could repackage the internals of the shittiest Brass Eagle gun you can find into a 1:1 replica of some assault rifle and droves of players would go apeshit over it.

I have no doubts that this will sell like crazy. After all isn't the Etha doing well now? More players play woodsball than speedball. Plus there are MANY who would like the milsim look with a mark that isn't as heavy as a tippmann and way more efficient.
I like it. I think it looks good. Have no intentions on pursuing one my but I can think of more than a few people I know that would be all over this. Different strokes for different folks

I saw a pic on criticals facebook and it reminds be of an uber woodsball marker. Had a bunch of unneeded addons but in the end is still a speedball marker. It's a great thing for woodsballers so they can have a great shooter and still get the look they want

Haha there's no room for the loader but they probably did that in jest.

Maybe. It would be a tight squeeze but you might be able to fit a Revolution in there and have it clear the windage knobs on that scope.It just raises the question: why didn't they put proper offset rails on the body of the gun in the first place?The AGD Tac-One, some tactical Ion bodies, and even the old Brass Eagle Rainmaker did this with great results.

So why didn't they just mount offset sight rails on it in the first place?

Probably because the person who did this doesnt have Occluded sights or doesn't know how they work. It would have been better to use the occluded sight because you can get you eye up to this sight while wearing a mask