Most minimum wage jobs are unskilled labor. How much should someone make for washing cars, cleaning bathrooms, flipping burgers or checking your groceries out at wal mart? These types of jobs were never intended nor should be intended to raise a family of 4 on. The system is designed for a worker to start at the bottom and work your way up to a new pay scale as you get older, more educated, more experience, develop a trade, etc......

Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

that's a good damned point.

and, people probalby shouldn't have 4 kids if they know they're destined for minimum wage.

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Hyperbole not withstanding I do stand by my comments. I don't think GDP really captures the costs of living for lower wage workers, but I'll acquiesce the point.

I don't have any minimum wage workers, I was speaking more of wages in general not matching up after the bush/obama nuclear destruction of our economy.

ill ask again, how much should an unskilled laborer make? $10, $20, $30, ,$40 bucks an hour? If an unskilled worker starts making as much as a skilled/educated worker, how does that affect your pay scales? Should we all just be on equal footing? **cough** socialism**cough**Posted via Mobile Device

Most minimum wage jobs are unskilled labor. How much should someone make for washing cars, cleaning bathrooms, flipping burgers or checking your groceries out at wal mart? These types of jobs were never intended nor should be intended to raise a family of 4 on. The system is designed for a worker to start at the bottom and work your way up to a new pay scale as you get older, more educated, more experience, develop a trade, etc......

Why is this so hard for some people to understand?

because that's not how things are anymore. How is that hard to understand?

because that's not how things are anymore. How is that hard to understand?

I dnt think so Bump. That's exactly how it works. I do know peeps in their 40s that still cant find a job that pays more than 11 bucks an hour & they never worked at anything or anywhere long enough to learn a trade or crawl up the ranks. It would suck to be 40 & still flipping burgers. That dnt make it a 20 dollar an hour job though

I dnt think so Bump. That's exactly how it works. I do know peeps in their 40s that still cant find a job that pays more than 11 bucks an hour & they never worked at anything or anywhere long enough to learn a trade or crawl up the ranks. It would suck to be 40 & still flipping burgers. That dnt make it a 20 dollar an hour job though

no, it doesn't. But the truth is, people are going out and working hard to acquire skills (college, trade schools, etc) and then they aren't able to apply those skills so they have to resort to this 'unskilled' labor. At one restaurant I worked at, 5 of the servers all had master degrees, one lady even had 2. Yet, they are working an unskilled job. That's just the way it is now, it may not be intended. But that's reality.

no, it doesn't. But the truth is, people are going out and working hard to acquire skills (college, trade schools, etc) and then they aren't able to apply those skills so they have to resort to this 'unskilled' labor. At one restaurant I worked at, 5 of the servers all had master degrees, one lady even had 2. Yet, they are working an unskilled job. That's just the way it is now, it may not be intended. But that's reality.

maybe from an online college. But these people went to good schools and they are ****ed. Worse off because they gained these skills and bought up all of the american dream bullshit. People are worse off for going to college these days, that's america now. I also should have mentioned that at least half of the staff had bachelors degrees as well.

You say people without a good career dont work hard, well that's not true anymore. That may have been true in the 60's, but america is falling and times are different. There isn't much people can do without being born into a good life these days.

maybe from an online college. But these people went to good schools and they are ****ed. Worse off because they gained these skills and bought up all of the american dream bullshit. People are worse off for going to college these days, that's america now. I also should have mentioned that at least half of the staff had bachelors degrees as well.

You say people without a good career dont work hard, well that's not true anymore. That may have been true in the 60's, but america is falling and times are different. There isn't much people can do without being born into a good life these days.

It depends on what you go to school for in the first place. A smart person would look at the job market before paying an institution to give them a degree that doesn't mean squat.

And the bolded part is complete BS. My son going into engineering next year is automatically disqualified for scholarships because he is white and comes from a middle income family. He is limited only because of his skin color and how successful his mom and dad are.

n At one restaurant I worked at, 5 of the servers all had master degrees, one lady even had 2. Yet, they are working an unskilled job. That's just the way it is now, it may not be intended. But that's reality.

Understand times are tough......but If this is true, then obviously they will only be there temporarily until they can find something better. I doubt they intend to make a career out of it and raise a family on that wage. If you work hard, get educated, and keep looking, opportunitities will eventually present themselves. That hasnt changed.

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Understand times are tough......but If this is true, then obviously they will only be there temporarily until they can find something better. I doubt they intend to make a career out of it and raise a family on that wage. If you work hard, get educated, and keep looking, opportunitities will eventually present themselves. That hasnt changed.

It depends on what you go to school for in the first place. A smart person would look at the job market before paying an institution to give them a degree that doesn't mean squat.

And the bolded part is complete BS. My son going into engineering next year is automatically disqualified for scholarships because he is white and comes from a middle income family. He is limited only because of his skin color and how successful his mom and dad are.

NOT disqualified from scholarships only because he is white/middle class, but because....it would seem, he lacks a competitive GPA and ACT score--nothing to do with skin color or success of parents...

Just sayin'....

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