I've been thinking about this comment and I have to strongly disagree. I think Sony blundered out of the gate with the PS3 with pricing, but since then, the PS3 has outsold the 360. This is evidenced in the almost equal marketshare and the 1 year headstart MSFT had.

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Sony recently announced they shipped more not sold more than 360 consoles though they will edge M/S by the end of this cycle. However despite Sony making a great comeback after a piss poor start they still sell less games on the PS3 and I bet XBox gains more revenue from XBL than Sony does from PSN. Sony had a huge marketshare in 2005 and they loss so much of it.

Agreed.MSFT is making a ton on XBL, no doubt because the PSN is free. Where Sony drops the ball is on marketing their games. Allowing COD to have a 30 day headstart on XBL is a bad move, IMHO. They have to do more to neutralize XBL's advantage in North America.

When I say PS3 outsold 360, I mean since its release in 2006. They have pretty much equal marketshare worldwide and the PS3 has been in the market for a year less than the 360.... and at all times, $100 more than the 360. A price drop and some marketing would do Somy wonders, but that's hard to do when the company is loosing so much money.

Did anyone else watch the livestream? The PS4 is officially real. A powerful 8 core AMD x86 processor, 8GB of unified DDR5 RAM and a top of the line GPU. Considering the PS3 has 256 MB of RAM and another 256 RAM to GPU, that seems like a quantum leap.

No price point, no release date, no PS Vita price drop, and a lot of people seem annoyed that they didn't actually show the PS4 box.... and only 1 new IP.

Looks like Playstation Mobile will be available on a ton of devices... perhaps even iOS and Android.

Ubisoft's Watchdogs looks good. Killzone Shadow Fall looks like it was running at least 60 frames per second and inFAMOUS Second Son looks downright amazing. We didn't see anything from Naughty Dog, but Bungie came out and showed the Playstation some major love with exclusive content for the PS4. Pretty excited that Diablo III is coming to consoles, but bummed that there was no footage of it running on a PS3 or PS4.

I'm looking for a statement something like: "The Playstation 4 requires an online connection to use." If there's no physical media and no game discs to buy, Sony effectively will eliminate the second hand market, something the game industry is dying to do.

I'll have no part of a cloud based console. What the fuck is the point of that? I'll happily go back to PC gaming if the future of the console market is based around getting assfucked by game companies that are going to bully consumers into paying for their bullshit no-media software, reeking of senseless "social media" features. I'm paying for it = I want to hold it and put it on my shelf. Non-negotiable.

Why the hell would ANYONE play Diablo III on the PS4 which the game is infinitely better being played on a PC?

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If you're saying that it's a game for a mouse/keyboard and not a console dual joystick layout, then I'm entirely in agreement.
I think Diablo III is more of a fit with the DMCA and always-online anti-piracy that makes it a launch title. THAT is the philosophy moving forward driving the gaming industry and it is why I will never accept it. The era of the gamer being in charge is over.

I'm looking for a statement something like: "The Playstation 4 requires an online connection to use." If there's no physical media and no game discs to buy, Sony effectively will eliminate the second hand market, something the game industry is dying to do.

I'll have no part of a cloud based console. What the fuck is the point of that? I'll happily go back to PC gaming if the future of the console market is based around getting assfucked by game companies that are going to bully consumers into paying for their bullshit no-media software, reeking of senseless "social media" features. I'm paying for it = I want to hold it and put it on my shelf. Non-negotiable.

I didn't see anything that suggested no physical media. Seeing as how Sony invented Blu-ray and there are reports that the next Xbox will adopt a BD drive, I doubt Sony will abandon it now.

Always online would make me hesitate too. There are too many outages in my neck of the woods to tolerate that. Part of the advantage of console gaming is the added security of being on a closed system. There has been very little in the way of piracy on consoles.

Agreed.MSFT is making a ton on XBL, no doubt because the PSN is free. Where Sony drops the ball is on marketing their games. Allowing COD to have a 30 day headstart on XBL is a bad move, IMHO. They have to do more to neutralize XBL's advantage in North America.

When I say PS3 outsold 360, I mean since its release in 2006. They have pretty much equal marketshare worldwide and the PS3 has been in the market for a year less than the 360.... and at all times, $100 more than the 360. A price drop and some marketing would do Somy wonders, but that's hard to do when the company is loosing so much money.

Today is te big day!! Spike TV will be airring the conference!

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Worldwide yes, but not in every market. In markets like the N. America and the UK. Doesn't the 360 still out sell the PS3?

The PlayStation 4 is a thing, and it's coming holiday 2013. The PS4 has 8GB of memory, a local hard drive and x86 CPU, alongside a secondary custom chip that allows users to play games while they download (and will eventually read our minds).
•The DualShock 4 controller features a touch pad front-and-center, alongside a headphone jack and share button that broadcasts games to other players in real-time. An additional "light bar" helps identify individual players and turns the gamepad into a Move controller, though the Move still works with PS4. The share button uses tech from Gaikai.
•The PlayStation Cloud streams PS1, PS2 and PS3 games, since it appears the PS4 won't be able to play legacy discs. The Vita will be able to play PS4 games remotely.
• And then there are the PS4 games: Knack from Mark Cerny, Killzone: Shadow Fall from Guerilla Games, Driveclub from Evolution Studios, Infamous: Second Son from Sucker Punch, The Witness from Jonathan Blow, Watch Dogs from Ubisoft, Diablo 3 from Blizzard, and Destiny gets Sony-exclusive content from Bungie. Quantic Dream and Capcom showed off some pretty tech demos, including one for Capcom's new original IP, codenamed Deep Down.

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It's basically a PC so it won't play PS3 games...
So if you want to play PS3 games you will have to keep that system as well...

I'll have no part of a cloud based console. What the fuck is the point of that? I'll happily go back to PC gaming if the future of the console market is based around getting assfucked by game companies that are going to bully consumers into paying for their bullshit no-media software, reeking of senseless "social media" features. I'm paying for it = I want to hold it and put it on my shelf. Non-negotiable.

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If you don't want that crap, the last thing you'd want to do is return to PC gaming. This always online DRM bullshit started on PC, and it's unusual these days to purchase physical copies of PC games, they're mostly downloaded through services like Steam or Origin.

And why would anyone want the PSN for free, it won't be free when the hackers steal your info.

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Why should I have to pay to access Youtube or browse the internet? I can get my head around charging for multiplayer gaming and Microsoft services, but why in the fuck should I have to pay to access external services?

I have a 360 and it's a great machine, I've purchased twice as many games for it than I ever bought for the PS2. But the nickel-and-diming MS does with Xbox Live has me really temped to jump back to the PS4.

"Does the PlayStation 4 always need to be connected to the internet, I asked? "You can play offline, but you may want to keep it connected," he suggested. "The system has the low-power mode - I don't know the official term - that the main system is shut down but the subsystem is awake. Downloading or updating or you can wake it up using either the tablet, smartphone or PS Vita."Are all of those things optional, though? For people who have broadband data limits, for example? They can customise everything?"Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that."

Maybe I'll get to enjoy Diablo III, after all. Thing is, I'm still not done with Lord of Destruction.

Are all of those things optional, though? For people who have broadband data limits, for example? They can customise everything?"

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There are still people who have data limits on broadband? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?

"Oh yes, yes, you can go offline totally. Social is big for us, but we understand there are some people who are anti-social! So if you don't want to connect to anyone else, you can do that."

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Gee.. thanks for calling me a dinosaur because i don't want to update any of my friends (real and those i can make with a click of the mouse) about anything i do! I still have my phone and email and the people who i want to be contacted by know how to get ahold of me.
Damn.. that was one of the most arrogant statements i read in a while!

As to the PS4 presentation.. weak sauce by not showing the thing itself. The controller looks sleek but i want to see the main machine.

And i couldn't help but smile broadly when i read that people will be able to play used games on it.. i guess Sony is really up against the wall when they're not trying to antagonize their customers.

The PS4 has to be a big hit or else Sony is in very serious trouble.. it needs a golden goose right now.

Let's wait and see what MS has in store.. i don't believe this generation console war will be decided by raw processing power but by unique and interesting gadgets.. so far i didn't hear much from Sony but MS has some cool things in store. Question is how much of it is hype and what's real?