The Bishops have gone from protesting their direct involvement with contraception, which is valid, to protesting contraception itself, which isn't.

Are they remotely aware of how eroded their "moral" authority is?

5:27 pm February 15, 2012

Jon Barecky wrote:

If the Obama admin consults with Media Matters, Acorn, their rich campaign contributors and other liberal special interests in crafting rules favorable to their respective groups, why shoudn't they consult with the Bishops on policy directly affecting the Church and violating the 1st amendment? Typical liberal hypocrite!

5:28 pm February 15, 2012

consult with your moma wrote:

she knows more about birth control than some cranky old celibate men

5:30 pm February 15, 2012

Freethinker wrote:

Celibate?

5:32 pm February 15, 2012

Ventura Capitalist wrote:

This woman is pure evil.

Jon Barecky: Why don't they consult with the Bishops? No time... too busy consulting with Media Matters, Acorn, their rich campaign contributors and other liberal special interests.

5:42 pm February 15, 2012

Eric wrote:

I don't like this woman or this Administration. That said, I'm trying to look at this objectively. As a matter of basic policy, once you decide to deviate fromy your original position--regardless of the topic--doesn't it only make sense that you would at least share the revised view with the group that you are trying to accomodate? Isn't that just basic common sense regardless of the issue? The thing that bothers me most about this is the perceived arrogance of it. I recognize I'm biased but frankly if you don't care enough to even check whether the new position helps at all, that's the same as saying you don't care. In that case, why make any change at all?

5:42 pm February 15, 2012

@So our government should wrote:

You're right, that's crazy! I mean, next they'll discuss monetary policy with the banks, or health care with the drug companies, or defense policy with the defense companies! Or worse, they might ask green energy companies what they need, or other stakeholders, like the ACLU, or Planned Parenthood - oh wait, they did speak with them. Well, okay, but that's because they would be affected by theis legislation - oh wait. Okay, well never mind. It's freedom OF religion, gang, not freedom FROM religion.

5:45 pm February 15, 2012

Richard Sullivan wrote:

Would have thought that was obvious.

5:47 pm February 15, 2012

bob chi town wrote:

The issue is contravening the constitution. First it's the catholics-then it's all of us.

5:48 pm February 15, 2012

BKS wrote:

It would surprise me if ANYONE AT ALL was consulted when they just threw ObamaCare together with no thought and no comprehension of the problem at hand.

5:52 pm February 15, 2012

ThereGoYou wrote:

What’s wrong with not forcing Catholic Charities to pay for human rights violations?

6:08 pm February 15, 2012

tomorourke1 wrote:

This matronly looking bureacrat is one of the most dangerous of the Obama radicals and giving a straight answer is not in her portfolio of nefarious skills and values.

6:11 pm February 15, 2012

@ 6:08 wrote:

"This matronly looking bureacrat is one of the most dangerous of the Obama radicals"

The former two-term governor of Kansas is a radical?

Or could it be you're an imbecile.

6:15 pm February 15, 2012

Dossevi wrote:

The Administration was trying to accommodate its allies in the Catholic community: Associations of Jesuit Colleges and Universities, Catholic Health Association, Hospitals, Nuns, etc.

On that front, the compromise did succeed: They are all on board.

6:17 pm February 15, 2012

g wrote:

Peons don't get an audience with Bishops.

The fact is that Obama didn't think this through. No one mentioned that Hispanics are predominantly devout Catholics. No one really thinks he back peddled for the Irish vote do they? It's what he has been referring to as unintended consequences.

It's what used to be known as incompetence.

6:18 pm February 15, 2012

Eric wrote:

@dossevi, are you saying that Nuns were advocating for access to contraception? I'm asking seriously--is that hyperbole in your comment or a published fact?

6:27 pm February 15, 2012

innig.blogspot.com/ wrote:

By far the most troubling aspect of the recent firestorm of attacks against the Obama administration is the apparently widely accepted idea that religious beliefs must be allowed to have a determinative effect on the health care coverage available to Americans. A teacher at a Catholic high school or a nurse at a Catholic hospital, opponents of the rules argue, should not have contraception or sterilization needs covered by their group health insurance plan because, even though it may be beneficial to their health (and they may not even be Catholic), it is deemed morally wrong by the Catholic church.

6:32 pm February 15, 2012

Jason wrote:

to innig.blogspot.com:

It is the employers choice what to cover in their benefits policy. It is the employee's choice to work there. If they don't like the benefits offered, work somewhere else.

6:33 pm February 15, 2012

x32792 wrote:

So Sebelius falls on her sword to protect Obbie?

6:34 pm February 15, 2012

JadedFan wrote:

She's hot...

6:35 pm February 15, 2012

True Catholic wrote:

When was the last time someone was excommunicated?

6:37 pm February 15, 2012

ciara wrote:

If it's repealed we wouldn't have to hear about this. JUST REPEAL THE BILL!

6:38 pm February 15, 2012

Jack wrote:

Is there anyone who likes this, other than the people who don't have to have it?

6:39 pm February 15, 2012

Anti-Socialist wrote:

This administration consistently knows best what we all need and want. Why would they bother asking any of us? ObamaCare is a glowing example of their care for our wellbeing and their ability to jam through their singular world view.

6:39 pm February 15, 2012

Joe wrote:

Keep your State out of my Church

6:40 pm February 15, 2012

Wild Palms wrote:

How can people be so blind to the putrid propaganda being spewed by all these so-called journalists and newscasters?
W A K E U P

6:42 pm February 15, 2012

Joe,NJ wrote:

I haven't heard one word from the head of the Church. Is that not allowed?

6:42 pm February 15, 2012

Big "D" wrote:

Would like the bishops to get on board and start excommunicating Catholics that think they know it all when they don't, like supporting abortion, contraception, etc.

6:44 pm February 15, 2012

Neil wrote:

The same clause is in Romney's health plan in MA. With Obama's faux compromise, that puts him to the right of Mitt on yet another issue. (see homosexual marriage and $50 or less abortions)

6:45 pm February 15, 2012

Casual Observer wrote:

Sebelius, the empress of healthcare, doesn't need to talk to anyone. Just wait til she decides that it's better for women's health to off Granny so there is more capacity for healthcare for younger women.

6:49 pm February 15, 2012

Skiritae wrote:

The answer as to why they did not consult with the Bishops is obvious. The Obama Administration knows better. The Obama Administration knows what is best for *all* Americans, Catholics included. The Obama Administration is busy shaping America into a more just and "fair" society. Don't bother them with trivial objections. The US Constitution is so yesterday, dontcha' know.

6:50 pm February 15, 2012

Pelling1020 wrote:

I wonder if she and Nancy Pelosi consulted consulted with the Srs.of Notre Dame de Namur where they both received degrees from Trinity Washington Univ.

6:50 pm February 15, 2012

J.V. wrote:

Why would she? The Catholic hierarchy, & most priests, have consistently supported pro-abortion Catholic politicians - Teddy Kennedy, Joe Kennedy, Joe Biden, Jerry Brown, Nancy Pelosi - and thousands other, mostly democrats, at the federal, state, and local level. If the U.S. bishops were left out of the loop during the past week or so - they should realize that it was they who partially created this mess with their undying support of such pro-abortion Catholic politicians.

6:53 pm February 15, 2012

Jeff wrote:

To innig.blogspot:

Why don't you take a moment and really think about the implications of your comment. First, your comment implies that a person has an absolute right to work for a Catholic employer--or for any employer for that matter. Certainly, individuals who choose to work for a religious organization ought to have the common-sense thought that some of the religious values associated with that religion might be expected of them--especially the really big tenets. Second, your comment implies that the employee then has an absolute right to impose their individual moral values on that religious employer, even if that employer had strong moral objections to that behavior. Where does this reasoning end? You ought to be frightened by this administration's handling of this issue, but all you are concerned about is making sure people have free access to birth control. That is just odd. Your priorities are a bit out of whack. Since when did birth control, our even health care, trump the First Amendment?

6:54 pm February 15, 2012

Matt Phinish wrote:

Of course she didn't talk to them. She's not stupid. She knew what the response would be.

6:55 pm February 15, 2012

1worldtrader wrote:

@JoeinNJ - Why should the Pope chime in? The Church's doctrine against birth control, including the abortion-inducing "morning after" pill, is well known and is universal. Before anybody chimes in with the strawman argument that "98%" of American Catholics practice bc, it matters not one iota. The First Amendment guarantees that the Church has the freedom to practice it's faith and that no law can be created that takes away that right. Forcing a religious organization to pay for (original mandate) or provide policies that include bc paid for by the insurance company (amended mandate which we all know will be paid for by the employer in the form of higher policy costs) violates the First Amendment and EVERY citizen ought to be outraged at this administration for this brazen attack on our liberties. Which amendment is next? You choose....

Remember the University of Notre Dame allowed Obama to speak to the graduating class a couple of years ago as a way of "engaging the president" well... I guess the present administration infringing on the religious rights of Catholics is President Obama's way of saying... Thank You!

6:58 pm February 15, 2012

Most Catholics don't support the Bishops wrote:

Especially young Catholics -- it's mostly the cottonheads and bluehairs that are supporting the Bishops, and they haven't had sex for some decades and probably didn't enjoy it even then.

6:58 pm February 15, 2012

I M Simpleton wrote:

My prediction is the church will fold before Obama and Sibelius. Especially when HHS dollars (really your and my dollars) stop flowing in the form of grants for health care facilities that provide indigent care. All organizations depend on the government teat in some way.

6:59 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

This is an offensive and totally fabricated "controversy" that has most ordinary Americans shaking their heads. How does worrying about...contraception (?!?!) help grow our economy or create new and good-paying jobs for Americans? This is a straw man issue cooked up by Republicans and their allies to derail the President and derail our country. This hurts America. Even most Catholics support Obama's position on birth control. what is this, the 1980's? http://www.sunstateactivist.org

6:59 pm February 15, 2012

Lindawa wrote:

Seibelius is afraid to contact anyone who could be Holy...she would vomit and spit out of her mouth as in instant exorcism.

7:03 pm February 15, 2012

Kristina wrote:

Hi-- The US Government should not be in the universal health care business!

7:04 pm February 15, 2012

George C. wrote:

“I don't know how you feel, but I'm pretty sick of church people. You know what they ought to do with churches? Tax them. If holy people are so interested in politics, government, and public policy, let them pay the price of admission like everybody else. The Catholic Church alone could wipe out the national debt if all you did was tax their real estate.

7:05 pm February 15, 2012

George C wrote:

“I don't know how you feel, but I'm pretty sick of church people. You know what they ought to do with churches? Tax them. If holy people are so interested in politics, government, and public policy, let them pay the price of admission like everybody else. The Catholic Church alone could wipe out the national debt if all you did was tax their real estate.”

7:05 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Who the hell is Obummer? How did this thug, without any background wind up rewriting, the rules of our goverment. Not one person from his background has come forward. Not one. Strange???? It's yet to blow. When it does we will learn from the outside, what a 50 year plan this has been. FDR, LBJ.Obummer. A straight line. No McCarthy, could get in the way. As Jim sang"the end my friend"

7:06 pm February 15, 2012

Tommy J. wrote:

I have examined all the known superstitions of the word, and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth.

- Thomas Jefferson

7:06 pm February 15, 2012

Wake UP wrote:

This issue is NOT about contraception! It is about religious freedoms and the government telling the Churches as well as the members what they can and cannot do. Today it is contraception and abortion. Tomorrow it may be to tell Jewish people to eat pork, the other white meat ad campaign, as it is healthier for you and after all the American people are paying your health care tab. Where is equal protection as well for the taxpayers who object to paying for such services. There is nothing in the bill that outlaws contraception. If you want it, YOU pay for it or abstain from such pleasures. Fellow women, you are being played, please wake up.

7:06 pm February 15, 2012

ghoti wrote:

Who gives a rats A$$ what the church says. 98% of Catholics don't...they use contraception. F@%# those child molesters. Their time has passed...irrelevant.

7:06 pm February 15, 2012

DM wrote:

Catholic, married, young, not using artificial contraception, and I support the bishops.

7:06 pm February 15, 2012

NorthernObserverWest wrote:

Honestly I really feel there must be something psychiatricly wrong with this woman. I can't remember when I have ever seen anyone in such a lather to kill things, in this case unborn babies. Just saying last time I saw anyone this sick it was the dog killing football player.

7:06 pm February 15, 2012

lol wut wrote:

Catholic Church lost its license to be the morality police when it became complacent in child rape. They have about as much moral authority as the Athletic Director at Penn State.

7:06 pm February 15, 2012

robert wrote:

would you please stop calling it a compromise. By definition a compromise means ACTUALLY TALKING to those involved and reaching an understanding - none of which appears to have happened in this case.

7:07 pm February 15, 2012

Steve wrote:

Don't confuse Contraception and Abortion. And don't worry about this law. Look at rationing and euthanasia and geriatricide. If the Government takes away the responsibility from everyone, it will be like the guy in Monty Python's Holy Grail "Bring out your dead!"

7:08 pm February 15, 2012

senor wrote:

The Catholic church will never agree to directly or indirectly support these procedures. If they lose in court which is unlikely, they will close every health facility in the country first.

7:08 pm February 15, 2012

Robert wrote:

You people really need to wake up! This issue isn't about premarital sex or even contriception. The Issue is about the unprecidented power grab by a failure in chief and the biggest liar in White House history. The constitution doesn't allow the Gov. To mandate that Ins. Co.'s provide free stuff. Nor does it allow the Gov. To mandate a Citizen buy anything!

7:08 pm February 15, 2012

robinF wrote:

I cannot tell you how many times I hear people in the media talk about abortions, contraceptives, and all means of how to snuff the life out of a child, but when have any of you heard any of the adults in the media, or in the schools, or in politics, talk about how it is better to take a few minutes to think about what you are doing, and preventing an unwanted pregnacy to start with. Has Planned Parenthood and our liberal leaders been successful in completely eliminating any responsibility that we have to take care of ourselves?

7:08 pm February 15, 2012

Anonnymous 101 wrote:

The comments here attest to the fact why the U.S. is doomed as a country.
This isn't about contraception, this is about the federal gov't ignoring the constitution
and doing whatever it pleases.
Healt insurance is for preventive medicine . Why should I as a taxpayer fund someones recreational sex.
Just keep letting the feds take away your freedoms--before you know it you won't have any.

7:09 pm February 15, 2012

TJM wrote:

instead she consulted left-wing loon nuns who could care less what the Church teaches

7:09 pm February 15, 2012

Mark Twain wrote:

This is so laughable, it would be like asking the fox and the wolf, if they consulted with the chickens in the hen house, before tearing their heads off and eating them.

7:09 pm February 15, 2012

John Svengali wrote:

Sibelius should be excommunicated. She, like Obama, are abortion absolutists. They nauseate me with their lust to kill babies. The pair of them would have made great Nazis!

7:10 pm February 15, 2012

Capt.Lewy wrote:

Sebelius testified before a senate committee today, and GOP Senators didn't lay a glove on her ;

The exact same reason they screamed bloody murder over the recess appointment of Richard Cordray to the Consumer Bureau...and then did absolutely nothing about it, except slink away with their tail between their legs: The politics for the GOP sucks!

They didn't want to be seen then as opposing consumer protections, and they don't want to be seen now as opposing a fundamental component of women's healthcare.

President Obama out-maneuvered them again.

7:10 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Mr. Hatch said he thinks all religious institutions should be exempt from the contraceptive coverage rule.

This, another power garab by the politicians.
Purpose:to undermine the republic and negotioate with known anti christian allies. Think U.N.
Fast and furious blew up in their face.
I hope this has the "peoples" attention..............

7:12 pm February 15, 2012

scboy wrote:

Stupid but not unexpected for a cino prog

7:15 pm February 15, 2012

Robert wrote:

Good news is this argument, discussion, is mute! The chief budget guy for the Liar in chief testified before Congress today about the budget and not raising taxes. He testified the penalty for not buying insurance was not a tax to justify Obama's claim that his budget doesn't raise taxes on people making 250 K a year. Obama loses in Supreme Court on this testamony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7:18 pm February 15, 2012

MTdave wrote:

what? the Queen to consult mere mortals? aint gonna happen.....
The HHS is totally in control of your life from cradle to grave - no matter who you are......she single handedly cancelled the Abortion pill for children under 17........with the stroke of a pen. No vote - now thats power. Shes is a monster.

7:18 pm February 15, 2012

Jeff Johson wrote:

She is a disgrace to the Catholic Church, and I fear for what will happen in her conscience during the soon to come warning from Heaven. Laugh all you want, but first read about what happened in Garabandal Spain in the early 1960's. Sebelius has chosen power in world over her faith, and this is a deep and tragic human story.

7:22 pm February 15, 2012

Church Militant wrote:

Of course she didn't consult the bishops. She knew before hand what the reaction would be. What was the point in doing so since she feels she knows better than the bishops already. Just like so many other so called Catholics, she feels free to pick and choose what teachings she adheres to. Real Catholics who struggle everyday to live their faith, despite the daily assault of the broader perverse culture, are completely repulsed by Sibelius and other politicians just like her presenting themselves as Catholic. They are as representative of the Catholic faith as the OWS crowd is to people who work.

7:23 pm February 15, 2012

Joe wrote:

Ghoti, you do realize that it is not just the Catholic church, correct? Also, you do understand how precedence and law works, correct? I mean come on, when a govt official can take your child's lunch away from them because they deemed it, "not worth any nutritional value," and then charge you for the replacement lunch, do you see the trend?

Another thing, why is it ok to have separation of church and state when it is something like, saying the pledge of allegiance, but when it's the other way around, then it's ok.This is a quote that you should think about, it's from John Adams: "Freedom is not the right to do as you please, but the liberty to do as you ought."

He is talking about the moral fiber of people, another words, doing what is right.

I'm no Catholic but it's about time someone stands up to the obomination that is called "Free Healthcare." nothing in life is free, work hard and maybe you will reap from the rewards.

Oh, one more thing, is it the Catholic Church that is the only one responsible for the pedophile issues? Cover ups? What about the government who hires known pedophiles or lets them walk from the jails? Isn't the govt guilty as well?

How about responsibility from all our leaders instead of blaming any one entity?

7:23 pm February 15, 2012

sheep wrote:

She is smarter than us and knows so much and is so wise. HEIL Sebelius!!!!

7:23 pm February 15, 2012

Crapkiller wrote:

Total incompetence! This is the standard for the Obama administration.

7:26 pm February 15, 2012

RUGPEDDLER wrote:

Of course she didn't. She and her boss are above God.

7:26 pm February 15, 2012

John Wolf wrote:

Serious Question: Are the Muslims exempt from the abortion drugs?

7:27 pm February 15, 2012

R Klass wrote:

History will judge Obama as one of the biggest buffoons to ever step foot in the White House. His administration is an utter failure.

7:28 pm February 15, 2012

Famfiz wrote:

The best way to reduce abortions is to make access to birth control info and contraception easy and early- look at the difference in abortion rates in Europe vs those of Catholic Brazil where abortion is illegal. Nobody is being forced to take contraceptives. 2/3 of Americans support the Obama position per tonight's poll from CBS/NY Times- We're not going back to the Middle Ages

7:29 pm February 15, 2012

JohnDave wrote:

Of course she didn't. Either this shows what an Obonzo shill she is, or, she doesn't give a crap anyway, or, the is Obonzo himself trying to prepare a way to blame someone else when he has to back away from the mess he's made. In anycase, it shows what a scumbag he is.

7:29 pm February 15, 2012

John Wolf wrote:

This is more about control than contraception. Abortion pills are also part of the package.

7:32 pm February 15, 2012

John Wolf wrote:

Holder and Obama should be indicted for "Fast and Furious."

7:32 pm February 15, 2012

Howard wrote:

The Law of Unintended Consequences: The rock-solid Protestants of the Evangelical Movement join forces to oppose the Administration's new healthcare initiative on contraception and abortion, and the result is that the Bishop of Rome suddenly becomes a key player in Washington.

Can the Grand Inquisitor and the Spanish Inquisition be far behind? What a way to end our secular republic.

7:34 pm February 15, 2012

Larry Spenzak wrote:

Of course she didn't contact the Bishops. She and the Obama administration are all knowing.

7:34 pm February 15, 2012

John Wolf wrote:

Muslims do not support abortion, murder maybe. Are they required to supply abortion drugs to their people under this law?

7:37 pm February 15, 2012

BILL MCNEAL wrote:

OBAMA OR AMERICA YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

7:37 pm February 15, 2012

PappyHappy wrote:

For Pete's sake -- she does what the Great Leader desires. He knows best what is good for the masses. Didn't you know that he is the new Messiah? Ask the person behind the curtain -- Valerie Jarrett!

7:38 pm February 15, 2012

Paul wrote:

Access to contraceptives has never been an issue in this country. But now we are supposedly demanding that insurance companies cover it under all policies without raising premiums. Why must contraceptives be free? Why is another party forced to pay for a woman's sexual activities? This is absolute nonsense! This is more about control than women's health. Contraception is not a right; it is a product purchased by a consumer. I hate all Democrats

7:38 pm February 15, 2012

Doogy wrote:

This woman is clearly from Kansas and is right out of the Wizard of Oz. She fills the bill of the wicked witch quite admirably.

7:43 pm February 15, 2012

jigsaw wrote:

Why haven't they fired her???

7:45 pm February 15, 2012

BILL MCNEAL wrote:

AMERICA WAKE UP , THIS GUY (I DON'T WANT TO USE HIS NAME) IS TAKING US DOWN A DARK ROAD AND I DON'T FEEL WE WILL RECOVER IF WE DON'T STOP HIM IN NOV 12/THIS THE CASE OF THE FROG IN THE PAN OF WATER,IT'S GETTING HOTTER AND HOTTER,SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TURN OFF OR TURN DOWN THE HEET!!THIS SHOULD BE THE 2012 MOTO: "OBAMA YOU CAN'T HAVE BOTH" PLEASE PASS IT ON.............................PLEASE

7:46 pm February 15, 2012

am wrote:

Access to contraception has never been a problem in this country. All you have to do is pay for it YOURSELF, instead of expecting someone else to be responsible for your messing around. The church, insurance companies are not responsible for you. YOU ARE. THis is still America and this government cannot force you to buy anything. We do not have dictators, at least we never have until now.

7:46 pm February 15, 2012

Terri wrote:

It's all about women's right and their right for others to pay for it. Catholic white male males are somewhere below Women, Jews, atheists and dogs, in the pecking order of respect and influence. I'm shocked Catholic white males received media coverage, if only to mock them.

Women are victims. Obama .12

7:47 pm February 15, 2012

DON wrote:

WHEN IS THE NIGHTMARE OF THESE PEOPLE GOING TO END?

7:50 pm February 15, 2012

Rick wrote:

I'm Pro Choice, so for all the people that think this is good policy how about choosing the following:
Responsibility over victimhood
Education over ignorance
Wisdom over foolishness
Sophistication over lack thereof
How about ----we choose---to remove this administration by any legal means possible?

7:51 pm February 15, 2012

MarkJ wrote:

Gee, why would Jean Sibelius stoop to consult with mere mortal religious leaders when she already considers herself a goddess?

7:51 pm February 15, 2012

FNTM wrote:

The main issue is the day after pill - also known as an abortion pill. This BS of misleading people with using the term contraception is absolutey wrong and immoral.

7:54 pm February 15, 2012

MarkJ wrote:

Howard,

"Can the Grand Inquisitor and the Spanish Inquisition be far behind? What a way to end our secular republic."

Well....NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISITION! (*Rubbing his hands in evil glee*) Really, buddy, were you born an anti-Catholic Know-Nothing bigot...or did you take a special Democrat-sponsored seminar to get that way? Using your logic, John F. Kennedy should never have been elected President--might have been too chummy with his scarlet-robed masters in Rome, y'know.
.

7:55 pm February 15, 2012

Disenchanted wrote:

I lived in Kansas when she was the insurance commissioner and when she was governor. She sucked them and she does now. she is as crooked as barry

7:55 pm February 15, 2012

Stentor wrote:

Of course she did not consult them. Dictators don't consult the little people, they order them around.

The only time the lefties "consult" anyone is to consult a "community" and only in a way that promotes a multiculturalist divide and conquer agenda. That is what the "Human Rights" councils in all the major cities are there to accomplish.

What needs to be understood is that Obama and Sebelluis are just two cogs in a Socialist Progressive machine. It is this opressive Prog machine that needs to be dismantled and deactivated.

8:01 pm February 15, 2012

MarkJ wrote:

Anonymous,

"Are they remotely aware of how eroded their “moral” authority is?"

Well if you're going to take that line, why are you a Prog? After having murdered 100 million people, don't you think the moral authority for socialism--especially the Marxian brand--is now a little "eroded" too? Betcha didn't think of that, did ya?
.

8:03 pm February 15, 2012

poorhardworker wrote:

This is not just about women's rights/contraception but about all our rights being remove by the government!! Heck, they are already handing out waivers (I would sure like to get one!)! This is just a bad law that puts an unreasonable onus on companies to collect information beyond the scope of "health care" and our wallets. It is already being debated in court...and the government is arguing both sides!!! The penalty for not providing the care is called a tax in one inquiry and not a tax on the other! They cannot even get their stories straight! They need to start over...and read it before they pass it!

8:04 pm February 15, 2012

Daisy wrote:

Keep your government and your uterous out of my religion.

8:08 pm February 15, 2012

Ann wrote:

Why would she consult?She's not a Catholic.She believes in a new moral order based on the body, her self aggrandizement and utter certainty. The irony is she's as dogmatic as Catholicism was in the old days. She thinks only that "progress" will make us happy. It will not. At heart she is bureaucrat and conformist, utterly at variance with Christ's radical courage and artistry.

8:10 pm February 15, 2012

RightStuff wrote:

The only thing we can do is to ridicule the tyrant and his demons. Even Satan can't deal with ridicule and scorn.

8:11 pm February 15, 2012

Linda Williams Cattanach wrote:

"Stakeholders?" Does Ms. Sebelius mean Planned Parenthood which will reap a windfall when the government pays them for supplying these tax payer funded freebies?

8:11 pm February 15, 2012

Roadside Couch wrote:

Why would a feminazi care about religion and God?

8:13 pm February 15, 2012

come on now wrote:

if they forced this on muslims, jujst think of the news. puke.....

8:13 pm February 15, 2012

Blade Runner 1776 wrote:

Why should Sebelius consult with Christians since she is the nemesis in regards to life and death?
A self defeating title for this piece.

8:13 pm February 15, 2012

jack wrote:

Looks like when D.C. got rid of the rats, they forgot a lot of them. They were hidding in the white house, and the senate. Obama, Daddy Rat and Sebelluis mama rat, what a pair.

8:14 pm February 15, 2012

John D wrote:

Don't send her back to Kansas. We don't want her.

8:14 pm February 15, 2012

1WorldTrader wrote:

What a surprise. The Leftists are here with their straw man arguments. The Church and the GOP are not trying to ban birth control. The Church does not want to PAY for it, nor PROVIDE it in their insurance policies to the employees of their various social service entities because it is against the teachings of the Church. It is that simple. Don't like their policy? Don't work there. They have every right under the First Amendment to not have the gov't make any law that infringes on the right to practice their religion. Nowhere in the first amendment does it say "unless they employ a non-Catholic". It is intellectually dishonest to say that the Church/GOP are trying to ban birth control or that they are against women. No institution does more for the health and well being of poor women than the Catholic Church via their hospitals, food banks, charities, shelters, and outreach programs.

8:15 pm February 15, 2012

Blade Runner 1776 wrote:

Besides, how does Sebelius justify informing Christians since she has a broken liberal moral compass?
The idiocy of the title of the article is ridiculous.

8:15 pm February 15, 2012

Skiritae wrote:

Toothpaste! We should demand that Secretary Sebelius and the all-knowing HHS provide us with TOOTHPASTE at taxpayer expense! For free! Is this not a health issue? Do we not need it? Should our government not provide it! Demand free TOOTHPASTE!

8:16 pm February 15, 2012

Bob A wrote:

Why would a baby killing, feminazi consult any real Catholic?!

8:20 pm February 15, 2012

Bob A wrote:

I know something better than contraception for stopping unwanted pregnancies. Stop paying women to have multiple babies on the taxpayers. Anyone can make a mistake. Fund the first pregnancy until the child starts school. Then, no more funding EVER! Stop the Democrat poverty machine!

8:20 pm February 15, 2012

Jan wrote:

No one is being denied "access" to birth control. Even women who work at Catholic institutions have "access". This is all about the government MANDATING free coverage. There is no right to free contraception. Why not high blood pressure medication? Cholesterol medication?

8:21 pm February 15, 2012

YouDude60 wrote:

If Unions can get Obamacare waivers, why can't a Church?

8:22 pm February 15, 2012

steve wrote:

Of course she didn't. Anyone from Kansas could tell you her agenda has always gone far beyond anything like consulting with someone who might disagree, let alone work against her. Continued thanks to all the Kansas politicians (all of them Republicans) who recommended she be allowed to inflict her radical beliefs on the entire nation.

8:22 pm February 15, 2012

Andy Eppink wrote:

"6:35 pm February 15, 2012
True Catholic wrote :
When was the last time someone was excommunicated?"

When indeed? If someone like Sibelius doesn't deserve it I can't imagine who does.

8:25 pm February 15, 2012

Walt wrote:

Well, as I heard stated once " The floor of Hell is covered with the bones of these...."

The level of arrogance, the disrespect for the sacred Constitution and overall disrespect for the citizenry of this country is unsurpassed. They expect us to pay their outrageous taxes to them so that they can persecute and do things to us. Just think of it: If we had any stones at all we'd tell them all to drop dead and not pay taxes. We're digging our own grave and deserve exactly what we get.

8:25 pm February 15, 2012

Pop Louie wrote:

The White House and Congress both need to be cleaned out of the destructive venim they are passing off as common sense government. The American people have had enough of this garbage and the places need to be fully fumigated and fresh air let in. Wake up America, this our country and we need to come to its aid.

8:25 pm February 15, 2012

Vince C wrote:

Is it just me, or does "The Mouth of Sauron" character from "Return of the King" always come to mind when she shows her face in the news?

8:25 pm February 15, 2012

GAH wrote:

Is she Catholic?

8:31 pm February 15, 2012

CA Dolfan wrote:

Of course they didn't consult them. That's what they do. Ram it through administration.

8:33 pm February 15, 2012

Disgusted wrote:

Now you libs know what it was like for 8 yrs under her administration in KS!

8:35 pm February 15, 2012

happy dog wrote:

she should have her neck worked on, otherwise, hot babe, hot

8:35 pm February 15, 2012

FedUp wrote:

Sebelius should be excommunicated, along with Pelosi, Biden, Dodd, Kerry & the Kennedys. Sebelius was also THIS CLOSE to "Tiller the Baby Killer" in Kansas. She is a vile person.

8:37 pm February 15, 2012

Albert wrote:

How the head of HHS could be someone who believes in partial birth abortion says everything you need to know about this president. She is the antithesis of health and protecting humanity. She is, well.. Evil.

8:38 pm February 15, 2012

Stentor wrote:

This is only a small preview of the wholesale destruction of liberty we will all suffer of Obamacare is allowed to stand. It was a sack of snakes piece of legislation and EVERY one of its 2500 plus pages is filled with this kind of mischief. We have not even begun to see how bad it really is.

The ONLY solution is to repeal it wholesale and start over, with a bill that is bipartisan, and READ before it is PASSED. None of it can be allowed to remain any more than you can leave a little cancer behind. It will just grow back and kill you. Obamacare is just plain evil, and it enables Prog creatures like Sebelius to be petty dictators. if Obamacare is not repealed we are doomed.

By the way EVERY politician in the House or Senate that voted for this steaming pile should be thrown OUT of office.

8:39 pm February 15, 2012

Gordon Campbell wrote:

Sebelius is a heterodox anti-Catholic Catholic as is Pelosi and Biden.They worship Caesar not God.Please contact their Bishops and demand that they be formally excommunicated.I don't care whether you're Catholic,Protestant,Jewish,Muslim,or atheist.Please help us out.They've come for the Catholics-you're next.

8:40 pm February 15, 2012

Famfiz wrote:

Catholic hospitals derive 50% of their revenue from Federal government and are tax exempt- is that money being forced down their throats?

8:44 pm February 15, 2012

tocelp wrote:

Compromise------Ha. This is a way for the Dems to bring up contraception (which is not the problem here-government intrusion is) and have the Repubicans come out against it. That is a loser for the Conservatives. I hope the Bishops do not cave to the media.

8:45 pm February 15, 2012

Dwight E. Howell wrote:

Sebelius is no more a Catholic than I am. She doesn't talk the talk nor walk the walk. Somebody may have poured water on her when she was kid but that's about it.

Was he failure to talk to a key party in the matter due to an inability to manage or elitism?
She does have the experience to do the job! The fool in charge has brought in many like this and he himself isn’t experienced enough to see failure when it is right in front of him.

8:47 pm February 15, 2012

v wrote:

she should not have consulted any Bishop. Any 4th grader could have told her, who is most likely a likely a scumbag lawyer herself and should ,know better,that it's unconstitutional.

8:48 pm February 15, 2012

David Wendell wrote:

Ms. Sebelius, please repent or leave the Roman Catholic faith. Why do you want to scandalize the church ? Join some protestant religion please.

8:49 pm February 15, 2012

Chukkalady wrote:

"You'll have to pass it before you read it....!"........Nancy Pelosi

8:49 pm February 15, 2012

Curious wrote:

so is there a birth control tree out back?, do vasectomy surgeries fall from the sky?, is there a morning after bush in the front yard? ..... maybe President doesn't understand free. Unless he gets doctors, drug, companies, distributors, hospital to all volunteer there services and products it is not free. So the insurance companies will have to offset those costs in the premiums. SO the Catholic organization at still being forced to pay for thing against the beliefs, Surely the Catholic Bishops and Catholics in general are not foolish enough to think this is nothing other then a reshuffle of the same cards. Hey president how about a Challenger tree, I sure would like a free car.

8:50 pm February 15, 2012

Martin Alexander wrote:

God have mercy on her soul!

8:50 pm February 15, 2012

Jean Poole wrote:

Why would that old wrinkled hag care about contraception? The Pope should excommunicate her and Nancy Pee Lousy.

8:54 pm February 15, 2012

BigBoa wrote:

Hmmmmm,,,,, Still waiting to hear from the muslims. No word yet from the muslims. For it? Against it? Totally indifferent? Anything?

Anyone care to guess why?

8:55 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

All I want to no how can so call no what's best 4 a woman it so funny to me to watch the rep. Man tell the ladies what's best 4them like they can carry a child.. Please stop floppn of at the mouth n let the woman speak.. Man where is my popcorn n turn to fox news I meant the fox show cause u can't call that news n let me sit back n enjoy the show lol

8:56 pm February 15, 2012

JimD wrote:

In its Decision-Framing-Governance-Model this Progressive-ly Neocomm Administration deems the Constitution and(We) the People to be externalities!

9:00 pm February 15, 2012

Fred wrote:

I'm shocked...that someone-Sibelius- who supported Dr Tiller's partial birth abortion mill would not consult the catholic church on contraception. That is simply appalling! What is this country coming to? I'm sure that Catholics like Nancy Pelosi share this outrage....The fact is that as long as these hacks are running the country we are doomed as a nation.Vote em out in November or fagitaboutit.

9:03 pm February 15, 2012

AnneC wrote:

A country that murders its own babies cannot expect God's blessings

9:04 pm February 15, 2012

Edward Southerland wrote:

I wish we could have offered barry's mama birth control when she was fooling around with married men!

9:04 pm February 15, 2012

Mike wrote:

No one is trying to tell women what to do including the Catholic church. They just don't want their First Amendment rights stepped on by being forced to pay for something that is against a religion. Women have the right to purchase the contraceptives that they so choose. But having a right does not mean that someone else has to pay for it.

9:05 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

1) How can the government force a private entity to provide a good or a service for free?
2) Furthermore, how does "not paying for it" change the issue at all?
3) If you thought the individual mandate in Obamacare was questionable, this should remove any doubt.

9:06 pm February 15, 2012

HarryO wrote:

Why should the controller of HillaryCare2 and who sits to the left hand of gawd consult with anyone who is not in their pocket or filling their pockets about anything she wants to do? This country is doomed.

9:07 pm February 15, 2012

John Weston wrote:

She's Catholic? She should be excommunicated!

9:07 pm February 15, 2012

RedFox wrote:

What the Bishops should do with the backing of the Pope is to excommunicate all those politicians (Pelosi, Biden, Sebelius, to name a few) for backing the anti catholic policies of Obama.

9:07 pm February 15, 2012

Jim wrote:

The Obama administration actually didn't make any compromise at all. They just pretended they would. The original form of the rule went final on the 13th, which means that it cannot be changed without going through the whole process again. This was a total scam by the Obama administration.

9:07 pm February 15, 2012

Greg B wrote:

Why is this news?
Of _course_ she didn't consult any bishops. Never crossed her angry little mind. She's the Queen of Abortion - just look at her record as governor of Nebraska. She even likes 'partial birth abortion'. She's mentally ill, just like everyone who thinks it's OK to pull a fully formed baby partway out and then kill it. If that's not a sign of mental illness, nothing is.

9:08 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

So, if she didn't consult with the other side, the decision cannot honestly be called a "deal," but rather should be called what it is -- bureaucratic fiat, or agency dicate, as in *dictatorship.*
When the government fails to compromise with, or even consult, the governed, it is intellectually dishonest to continue calling it representative government.
This issue alone shows that Congress exceeded its constitutional powers of delegation by giving the HHS such sweeping powers in Obamacare.
Also, medical care is not interstate commerce, therefore the Commerce clause does not apply and the federal government has no authority here.
See Schecter v. United States, 1935.

9:08 pm February 15, 2012

rawheadrex wrote:

I heard an interview in just the past two weeks in which the man identified as her bishop had advised some time ago that she could not take communion because of her action as governor.
People such as Kathleen Sebelius do not believe the rules, laws, even tenets of faith, apply to them. The term is autonomism; they are above and administer the law, both earthly and spiritually to those they guide.
She is rather typical of the genre; not terribly intelligent but quite well advised on the power that accompanies the offices they occupy. The alleys of history are littered with those of her ilk, Goebbels, Nietzsche, Goering, Marx, Lenin, Hitler, Obama, etc; the type America has made a career of of investing its money, sons and daughters to resolve. America will survive; she is a mere anomaly, a carbuncle on the posterior of society.

9:13 pm February 15, 2012

229Mick wrote:

Sorry 'bama, not everyone dumps their convictions or changes their stand on something at the drop of a hat.

9:14 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

-- Article I, The United States Constitution

This is a clear violation of the government infringing on the right of exercising of religion for all of us--Catholics, Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, atheists, etc. If we do not stand up to the government, then this most fundamental right will be lost to us and our children.

9:15 pm February 15, 2012

Marine72 wrote:

Sebelius (prime member of the in your face Obozo dictatorship) never had any intent to talk Catholic Bishops, Methodist Bishops, Mormans, Presbyterian Bishops, Baptists, or any other religion or group with a conscience. This is just part of the Alinsky chaos/misdirection tactics. Obozo's stated purpose allowed him to sort-of walk-back his otherwise thought to be stupid proclamation when his real purpose was to decree a new tax onto every insured person. There is no such thing as no cost, no co-pay medicine. Every one else pays for the takers who do not understand the purpose of a quarter between the knees and the word NO!

9:15 pm February 15, 2012

All The Anti-Abortion Whackos Are Out In Force wrote:

Wonder how many of them are divorced?

Then there are the geezers who are just generally mad about everything, including that their own crappy lives didn't turn out better (it was somebody else's fault of course).

9:16 pm February 15, 2012

How many Catholics use birth control? wrote:

Pretty much all them, except for the old folks who have forgotten how to have sex.

9:17 pm February 15, 2012

Lark wrote:

Anonymous wrote - not paying for it changes nothing (paraphrased). This is absolutely true. However, the churches will still pay for it. Let us use a little common sense here. The insurance companies are not going to pay for it. Like any other service or product provider they are going to make some profit or go out of business so they will pass the cost of it on to churches. Nothing is free and the churches will still pay for it.

9:17 pm February 15, 2012

krw wrote:

she is as evil as her boss. her buddy who pulled fully formed babies out and killed them is now with the three of thems Boss burning for erterity. may they join him soon

9:18 pm February 15, 2012

James wrote:

Excommunicate her now

9:19 pm February 15, 2012

Juju wrote:

This woman is like a female version of Aribert Heim.

9:23 pm February 15, 2012

Marine72 wrote:

All The Anti-Abortion Whackos Are Out In Force:

For your information the SCOTUS Roe v. Wade decision prevents us whackos from opposing abortion and until reversed that is all we can do. The real issue is that my religion/conscience prevents me from paying for abortions!! To that end I personally don't care if you go find the women in need and help them on the street corner with a coat hanger, because that is your right. Just don't expect me to pay for even one abortion with any portion of my tax dollars. Yes! I am one of the dwindling few who actually pay taxes.

By the way, do you pay taxes?

9:24 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Another set of I dont know anything just like Fast and Furious.

9:25 pm February 15, 2012

A concerned American wrote:

Women aren't entitled to Birth Control by virtue of the fact that they are employed. Just because you can't keep your legs closed doesn't mean that I should have to pay for your contraception as your employer. Take some personal responsibility... if you want it, PAY FOR IT YOURSELF.

9:25 pm February 15, 2012

bill wrote:

she kinda looks like a post birth abortion

9:31 pm February 15, 2012

React wrote:

It is time to return to the old fashion pulpit, preaching, teaching, and condemn the swines in the Oral Office, the Sluts in departments, and the rest of the immoral, anti-American, irreligious, godless hoards that threaten the Constitution and this nation. Start the ecclesiasticals courts, start excommunicating the scum and CINOs.

9:32 pm February 15, 2012

fantasin wrote:

The only deity left wing fascists like Sebelius communicate with is the god within themselves, that comforts them them with knowledge that liberals have superior knowledge of their understanding of the way the world should be run. They view most people as being too stupid to take care of themselves (especially the democrat base) and that the end always justifies the means, when implementing progressive policies. As governor of Kansas, Sebelius made sure that evidence in a pending criminal investigation of Planned Parenthood was destroyed. Subsequently, may of the charges, some which included performing late term abortions were thrown out, because deep down most democrats think that late term abortions are peachy keen, therefore protecting the abortion mill from criminal charges is a noble thing in their superior minds. Hopefully this women will someday wake up and realize how stupidly she conducted her life.

9:32 pm February 15, 2012

Christine Johnson wrote:

Why is this corrupt pro- abortion, even after birth,,evil person still in the gov.? Where are the solid Repubs. on this? Impeach her. the women in this country do not need her looking out for them. They can do that all by themselves.

9:33 pm February 15, 2012

Freebee wrote:

All birth control is already free...just stop spreading your legs...

9:36 pm February 15, 2012

clayusmcret wrote:

She should not have been consulting the Bishops. She should have been consulting the U.S. Constitution. If she had consulted the Constitution, she wouldn't have recommended such a bonehead decision.

9:36 pm February 15, 2012

not quite Clement wrote:

She could have at least consulted the altar boys. They would probably have a sense of the Bishops' input regarding contraception.

But I should admit that I have mixed feelings about this. Part of me thinks that religious traditions should be honored and respected, and not strong-armed by civil government, but another part of me sees that some of these traditions are imbued with a healthy dose of control rather than enlightenment.

9:36 pm February 15, 2012

Mike N wrote:

The compromise proposed by the Obama administration does nothing to address the issue of religious freedom. Churches should not ever be mandated to do or fund anything that goes against their beliefs. The churches will pay for it one way or another, the same way you pay for the "free" toy with a happy meal.

9:37 pm February 15, 2012

Abe wrote:

Sibelius is a murderous, infanticidal harlot

9:40 pm February 15, 2012

Concerned wrote:

If I recall correctly, there is not one word in the Constitution about supplying or providing birth control or abortions to the people.
There is a First Amendment that states:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to
petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

9:42 pm February 15, 2012

not quite Clement wrote:

I wonder whether the Catholic Bishops are prepared to declare that Mormonism is a fake religion.

9:43 pm February 15, 2012

Suzy wrote:

Well, she wasn't going to listen to them, so I don't know why she would have consulted with them.

9:47 pm February 15, 2012

J Ruben Kincaid wrote:

Marxists don't consult, they bully and threaten

9:51 pm February 15, 2012

not quite Clement wrote:

New Rome, same as the Old Rome.

"Keep your eye on the sparrow." ;-)

9:51 pm February 15, 2012

Agent VX wrote:

It's pretty clear that the Obama strategy is to lie, obfuscate, mislead, deny or whatever else it takes to put a Marxist agenda in place. Here, his henchwoman, Siebielus, attempted, albeit unsuccessfully, to steer senators to the erroneous conclusion that they [the administration] had indeed talked to the bishops, something that was clearly untrue even before she set foot inside the Capitol. But, that's the kind of gall they have, lie even though the truth is self-evident. When you look at their works in toto, the picture is pretty ugly. This continuing criminal enterprise called the Obama administration needs to be tossed this November and the idea of prosecution for corruption and abuse of power isn't all that outrageous.

9:52 pm February 15, 2012

Skiritae wrote:

How ironic is the position within which the American Catholic Church now finds itself?

Throughout American history, Catholics have often been the object of scorn, fear, superstition, and even hatred. Long the lap-dog of liberal and Democrat causes (much to my shame), we have been shocked with the boldness and arrogance with which the Obama Administration has pushed its agenda.

Now, American Catholics are poised to lead a revolt against an out-of-control government that has usurped unprecedented powers and trampled our Constitution.

Do we have the guts to stand up to this tyranny? Do we have the Leadership to stand strong?? The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops stand on the threshold of history. Principle or Resignation?

Unlikely, Unexpected, and Unprecedented, the Obama Administration has awakened a sleeping giant.

9:52 pm February 15, 2012

The Bruce wrote:

First they try to force the Catholic Church into doing something that violates their core beliefs and teachings. Then they back off a bit, saying that they'll force the insurance companies to do it, and force them to do it for "free" to boot.

Take your pick, ladies and gentlemen. Either the administration is trashing the 1st Amendment, or they're guilty of economic fascism. Take your pick.

By the way, notice that their tactic has cause severe blow-back, not just with Catholics, but other religious organizations as well.

Sure, it's understood that most Catholics use contraception -- I'm one of them -- but to dictate to the Church itself to violate its own beliefs and teaching is utterly reprehensible.

Where are all the liberals that usually yap about the "separation of church and state?" By the way, did you know that the Muslim community was already given an exemption to this rule??? Kinda makes you think, doesn't it?

9:52 pm February 15, 2012

Sibelius wrote:

dispicable harlot

9:54 pm February 15, 2012

MrLogical wrote:

As disturbing as this issue is - viz., the continued trampling on or ignoring the Constitution by the Obama administration - there is supreme and even satisfying irony in the fact that the Catholic church is being bitten by the beast they created by their almost blind devotion to the Democrat party over the last 80 years.

I believe the best way to describe the current state of affairs is, "Reap what ye have sown."

9:54 pm February 15, 2012

Jane wrote:

I have always had choices in the things I buy, even in health care choices. If I did not like the service, I would choose another one a renewal time. If the government makes ever health insurance policy the same my choice of products is removed. If my employer decides he does not want to carry the much costlier product that the government mandates him to, he pays a fine and drops me. Then I have to go into the government health insurance program. What if I do not like their service, where do I go then?
Currently with the new contraception mandate, the government has restricted religious affliliiated groups first amendment rights, The healthcare law has given too much power to too few people. This is just the beginning of government ideologues trampling on and disrespecting the Constitution and it's promised liberties.

9:54 pm February 15, 2012

John MacDonald wrote:

Bottom line: If this administration is re-elected the Republic as we have known it is dead.,

9:54 pm February 15, 2012

Samm Carr wrote:

I’m not sure why Secretary Sebelius needed to consult the Bishops. This ruling is universal. I don’t think it was meant for any one group, other than women. If you don’t want to take contraception then don’t. When my daughter was twelve years old her pediatrician consulted my wife and I about treating her polycystic ovarian syndrome with birth control pill. Fortunately, another course of treatment was deemed preferable.

My wife and I are not Catholic so we don’t care to have the Bishops dictate what coverage we get in our Catholic Church affiliated employer provided insurance policy. My wife uses contraception because we don’t want any more kids but enjoy each other’s company. Currently we pay for her contraception and are willing to continue paying for it, just don’t take our right to access it away.

9:56 pm February 15, 2012

Ronne wrote:

Rampant promiscuity and immorality, especially, in the Democrat party, is the reason of contraception and abortion...trying to escape personnal responsibility.

9:57 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Someone is missing a kindergarten teacher....And, to Samm Carr, just because you want birth control coverage doesn't mean your employer ( or the United States Taxpayer) have to pay for it. You can access it all you want. Just don't expect the Catholic church to pay for it.

9:58 pm February 15, 2012

Hank wrote:

It all boils down to "sluts gone wild" and the spinless allowing them too

9:58 pm February 15, 2012

Hank wrote:

It all boils down to "sluts gone wild" and the spinless allowing them too

I would not be surprised it Planned Parenthood is behind all of these attacks, or their big arse support, MOOCHelle O'duma.

10:01 pm February 15, 2012

not quite Clement wrote:

So much of this bustle and tussel still seems like an issue of control. Name-calling, vitriol, lack of love. So many seem still caught up in verbiage and the scaffolding of control on little old earth. Where did Jesus reside? Where did He look for guidance?

10:03 pm February 15, 2012

chesterfield001@gmail.com wrote:

Her opinion means nothing as she has been excommunicated from the CATHOLIC CHURCH

10:04 pm February 15, 2012

Wendy wrote:

Abort Siebelius

10:05 pm February 15, 2012

wake up! wrote:

This Planet Is Over Populated already! We ARE Running out of time!

10:07 pm February 15, 2012

rex wrote:

We are not overpopulated...go to West Taxas or Montana or Alaska or Alberta...plenty of room.

10:09 pm February 15, 2012

not quite Clement wrote:

The ones I really listen to are the monks, who say little, but Listen.

10:09 pm February 15, 2012

Horace wrote:

These clowns worship at the alter of death and greed...they WILL reap what they sow. Evangelical, Charismatic Catholic Christian!

10:09 pm February 15, 2012

MJ wrote:

What else could we expect from these people ... constant hiding the truth, etc. just like in a dictatorship.

10:11 pm February 15, 2012

jeff m wrote:

For all calling for excommunication, please understand that any Catholic that cooperates with direct abortion in any wa, excommunicates themselves (See CCC #2272). It does not require the act of a Bishop. That said, what would be nice is definite acknowledgement of this fact. A few bishops, like Robert Vasa do this and refer to pro-abortion Catholics as right-to-murder heretics.

10:13 pm February 15, 2012

AnneC wrote:

I wish people would stop calling Catholics pedophiles. The .001% of priests who were guilty, were DISOBEYING Church law. There have always been Judases, it doesn't mean the Church told them to do it! Psychologists were telling the bishops they were cured and the naively believed it. They were almost all homosexual predators who should never have been ordained. And you can be sure they were perfectly all right with artificial contraception, too. Sebelius is no Catholic, maybe just another Judas. May God have mercy on her and convert her and all who are implicated in baby killing. God is the Master of life.

10:13 pm February 15, 2012

Wendy wrote:

Jeff M: Good for Bishop Vasa..need more like him

10:14 pm February 15, 2012

Common Man wrote:

Translation: “No we did not talk to any Catholics, who cares what they think. After all, they only get in the way of Planned Parenthood and our left wing agenda. As one of my heroes once said, they are all useful idiots, and believe me we need as many of them as we can get, well at least till after the election. Besides, they were all for OC before it affected “them.” Next on the list are the Baptists and the rest of the “bible thumpers.” “What would Jesus do? Who cares, what will Obama do, after all he is real the Messiah right? Now that is the real question here.”

10:15 pm February 15, 2012

BGR wrote:

She ought to be fired along with the President of the Catholic Health Association

10:15 pm February 15, 2012

Horace wrote:

AnneC: The use this red herring to divert attention from their failed arguments and irrational and illogical desires.

10:19 pm February 15, 2012

MrLogical wrote:

Obama - our Muslim Commander in Chief - is only doing his Muslim bidding by destroying the single largest denominational threat to Islam: the Catholic church and it's adherents. Once the Catholics have selectively killed themselves off by self-imposed annihilation, the next to fall will be the other Christian religions and then the Jews. Think this is just fantasy? Look at the birth rates of the nations in the world and then the religions thereof. Christians are destroying themselves while the Muslims are growing by leaps and bounds. Most experts give it 3-4 generations and it's all over but the shouting.

10:19 pm February 15, 2012

Jill wrote:

To all my 70 million US Roman Catholic brethern, we, 15 million US Orthodox Catholics stand with you.

10:21 pm February 15, 2012

not quite Clement wrote:

Wrangling with parochial words is one thing; listening to the Creator of all the Cosmos is another.

10:23 pm February 15, 2012

James wrote:

The real issue is whether contraception is healthcare. What disease is contraception trying to prevent? What possible reason is there for it to be considered healthcare?

10:23 pm February 15, 2012

John Doe wrote:

If the Department of Health and Human Services has the right to require religious employers like schools and charities to offer contraception in employee health plans, does it also have the right to forbid religious employers like schools and charities to offer contraception in employee health plans?

Why not?

10:25 pm February 15, 2012

Thelma wrote:

Following Jill's lead: We Southern Baptist also stand with you.

10:27 pm February 15, 2012

Me too wrote:

I agree with previous post. She looks hot. I would give her a go.

10:28 pm February 15, 2012

Gregory wrote:

I am non-demoninational, but i also stand with our Catholic brethern

10:30 pm February 15, 2012

john smith wrote:

Sorry, but sge gath reveaked her true face whike Betraying her Cathokic Church, Tou know how that stuff goes, And when she dies stikk in sin without an exoensive Plenaary Indukdgeance, She;s then in Hell with a way out

10:32 pm February 15, 2012

not quite Clement wrote:

I forgive the People of Earth. We are still sprouting in our understanding.

10:33 pm February 15, 2012

Convert wrote:

I am a convert to the RCs, I went through RCIA...completely support my new church

10:34 pm February 15, 2012

cwgf wrote:

Is it just me, or does Sibelius look like she just rose from the crypt after sundown?

10:36 pm February 15, 2012

Catholics for reason wrote:

So much anger, insults and low grade primitive politics in the majority of comments. All for nothing. Outside the extremist hateful right wing contraception is as normal as breathing. You hyppocrites are a sick lot.

It is a fact that more than 95% of catholics use contraception of the type the Catholic Church does not condone.

Secretary Sibelius did an extraordinary job with the compromise solution which is acceptable to th great majority of catholics.

Seems that the usual suspects are writing the oscene comments in this fairly irrelevant blog.

Republicans will lose more votes because of this absurd posturing and political subservience to obscure and non realistic dogmatism

10:39 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Does the religous liberty enshined in the 1st Amendment protect the rights of individuals or oganizations? Why do organizations have religous liberty rights that are not enjoyed by individuals? I think individuals should have the right to opt-out and by extension, organizations of like-minded people should be able to opt-out as well. Rights belong to people, not groups.

10:40 pm February 15, 2012

Ken wrote:

Does the religous liberty enshined in the 1st Amendment protect the rights of individuals or oganizations? Why do organizations have religous liberty rights that are not enjoyed by individuals? I think individuals should have the right to opt-out and by extension, organizations of like-minded people should be able to opt-out as well. Rights belong to people, not groups.

10:41 pm February 15, 2012

Catholic in Utah wrote:

I'm Catholic, married, in my early 30's and I do not use artificial birth control.

10:42 pm February 15, 2012

The drudge invasion is disgusting wrote:

The number of thoughtless insults and vitriolic comments indicates that the haters who read Drudge Report found a link to this blog.

Drudge barbarians are a political disease .

10:43 pm February 15, 2012

So What wrote:

So what if 95 percent of Catholics use contraception (albeit a cut and paste from Guttmacher/Planned Parenthood). A good number of bank robbers are Catholics; should we no longer oppose stealing? A good number of murderers are Catholic; should we no longer say it is wrong to kill? Many Catholics commit adultery; should that be allowed too just because people do it? What the hell sense does that make?

The issue is and has been not contraception as the media portray it and the administration says, but religious liberty. The Constitution says the STATE can't establish a Church. There is nothing prohibiting a Church from being involved in the public square. That is NOT prohibited. Like the RC Church or not, it is here to stay...just ask the Romans who wrote it off 2,000 years ago. Those who are writing its obit are slightly premature.

All that aside, the Federal Government is the servant of all people and not the other way around.

10:43 pm February 15, 2012

Herbert wrote:

cwgf: You are right ;;; she looks haggard, driedup, shrivelled, something akin to a ghoul

10:43 pm February 15, 2012

AGMINES wrote:

One has to wonder why Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius did not know the importance and vast network of Catholic Hospitals and how she is so unqualified for the job, if being that stupid.

Clearly, she got an education by her mistakes but there are better qualified people out there than her.

This is the kind of mistake that cfan cost President Obama his Re-election and stick us with Santorum or Romney.

10:43 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

"Catholics for reason", "It is a fact that more than 95% of catholics use contraception of the type the Catholic Church does not condone."

What does that tell you about your religion? Not very reasonable is it?

10:45 pm February 15, 2012

sorry about your infertility wrote:

10:41
are you that proud of your low sperm count and impotence?

10:45 pm February 15, 2012

not quite Clement wrote:

Jesus was never Catholic, never got married, and we have no idea what kind of hanky-panky He got up to or not.

But of course one appreciates the kinder or more neutral comments versus the more vicious and hateful comments.

10:45 pm February 15, 2012

STOK54 wrote:

Catholics for reason - The issue is not about contraception. The issue is about freedom and liberty. If the government can force the Catholic Church to do something that goes against the tenets of the church then liberty for everyone is compromised. Today it is the Catholic Church, tomorrow it will be some other group and so on. Once the precedent has been set the doors are left wide open for the government to take more of our individual liberties away. The government will not restrict itself, it is up to all of us no matter what party we align ourselves with to keep them in check.

10:46 pm February 15, 2012

Tramps wrote:

No such right to contraception exist. Free contraception, however, does exist...quit spreading your legs

10:47 pm February 15, 2012

Frankie wrote:

The bishops are right -- no law should interfere with the god-given beliefs of any religious group! The U.S. law against murder, for example, impinges on Muslims' Allah-given right to murder apostates in cold blood -- this is a violation of religious freedom! Get your State out of my Church and/or Mosque! The Bishops should rest easy, knowing that they have the full support of Al Quada (fellow opponents of women's rights and gay rights) on this key and important issue of religious freedom.

10:48 pm February 15, 2012

Dick Sicario Las Vegas. NV wrote:

Why do so many liberal women look like non passable male cross dressers ?
Sebelius could easily join any Drag Queen show as one of the boys.....

10:48 pm February 15, 2012

Huuf Arted wrote:

Jesus needed no guidance, he IS the GUIDE and Jesus is PRO-LIFE so we know his stance on Abortion. Jesus was also silent on Birth Control so that is a matter of conscience for believers. Lastly I suspect Jesus is Anti Sebelius in fact im certain of it since this crone reaks death...

Does that sort it out for you Clements ?

10:49 pm February 15, 2012

RogerCfromSD wrote:

There is no such thing as free anything. Liberals need to acknowledge that.

Also, Obama does not have the authority to mandate things simply because he wishes them. Liberals also need to acknowledge that, as well.

Otherwise, a Republican President will use Obama's precedents and start mandating his or her own laws and regulations. Then, the liberals who support Obama's over-reach will have no moral authority to complain.

10:49 pm February 15, 2012

JOY COMPTON wrote:

Sebeliius is a hanger on and it shows. She stands gazing at Obama during photo ops like she is in the presense of God. I think she believes she is. While her low self-esteem is to be pitied, her actions are despicable and she will pay the price for evil complicilty against this country.

10:50 pm February 15, 2012

Skiritae wrote:

"Catholics for reason"

The name says it all: compromising, wavering, unprincipled, and a complete lack of core beliefs.

Sibelius and those who support her have made their bed. Let them sleep, brothers and sisters until our Lord awakes them. Find no pleasure in the agony that awaits them. Mind your own lives and be the face of Christ to all those who see you.

10:52 pm February 15, 2012

Lori wrote:

I am a Methodist, and I, too, stand with our Catholic friends.

10:52 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Dick Sicario Las Vegas. NV is correct! Why are Democratic politicians so un-feminine? Why can't they be more like the beautiful Bay Buchan or Ginny Thomas for example? Or foxy, foxy Liz Cheney?

10:54 pm February 15, 2012

Canof Sand wrote:

Hatch doesn't take it far enough! The First Amendment doesn't just apply to INSTITUTIONS. NO PERSON OR ENTITY OF ANY KIND should be subjected to this UNCONSTITUTIONAL rule.

10:56 pm February 15, 2012

Concubine wrote:

Get your church out of my freedom to enjoy my sex life.

Anyone complains about insurance coverage and access to erectile dysfunction treatments for men?

Go for the right to have orgasms without worring about unwanted pregnancies.

10:57 pm February 15, 2012

Robert wrote:

Well, we know Romney, hence, Mormons are also supporting the Roman Catholics; like they rightfully did on Calif Prop #8.

10:57 pm February 15, 2012

Frankie wrote:

THANK YOU, Canof Sand! That's what I'm saying exactly. This all started when the Mormons lost their right to Polygamy -- the State interfering with freedom to practice our religion!

10:59 pm February 15, 2012

Amazingly Stupid To Worship Some Old Fart In Rome wrote:

Do you really believe that God communicates through the Pope? If so, then you might find the teachings of L. Ron Hubbard and the Rev. Moon to be interesting, because it is on the same level.

Most Catholics are rejecting this position of the church, like they reject so many positions of the church on things such as the use of birth control and divorce. Catholicism is hardly a serious religion in the U.S. anymore since it has been so watered down in practice. Not sure why anybody would care what the Bishops think -- they are just a group of senile old farts too.

10:59 pm February 15, 2012

Lori wrote:

Concubine: go charge for it instead of giving it up to anyone for free. Tramp

11:00 pm February 15, 2012

daniel wrote:

she WILL answer to God and looking at her now she may being doing that sooner than she expects.

11:01 pm February 15, 2012

Anti-Abortion Wackos From The South wrote:

Every check out the rates for teen pregnancy in the South? Talk about a bunch of dumb people who should be using birth control. But stupid though most southerners are, they still try to force their asinine views of morality on the rest of us.

11:02 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Amazingly Stupid: Yes, you are indeed. No one follows it...hahahaha only 70 million in the US alone..and growing daily.. Over a billion worldwide

11:02 pm February 15, 2012

Dan wrote:

As a Kansan, it shames me to say Sebelius was our governor. I'm also ashamed of Brownback for supporting her appointment. Brownback is worse than Sebelius since he's a wolf in sheep's clothing, just like Romney and Santorum.

11:03 pm February 15, 2012

Questions wrote:

How many of you have had divorces?

How many of you have had sex for reasons not related to procreation?

How many of you can't remember the last time you had sex?

How many of you can correctly spell "Hypocrites" without reference to a dictionary or other source?

11:04 pm February 15, 2012

Brad Hyatt wrote:

Most of the Bishops who complain practice in States that already require that contraception be included in Health Care plans.

11:05 pm February 15, 2012

not quite Clement wrote:

It's sad to see so many people being unkind.

11:05 pm February 15, 2012

sharon wrote:

Questions wrote:....How many of you can correctly spell “Hypocrites” without reference to a dictionary or other source?

now come on - did you use auto correct?

11:06 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Laurie.....

Get laid

11:06 pm February 15, 2012

Twenty Dollars wrote:

Birth contrl costs $20 a month - if you can afford a cell phone you can afford birth control. Why is it in insurance in the first place? Are we really that irresponsible that we won't spend $20, we'll only use it if it's free?

11:07 pm February 15, 2012

sharon wrote:

Anti-Abortion Wackos From The South wrote :
Every check out the rates for teen pregnancy in the South? Talk about a bunch of dumb people who should be using birth control. But stupid though most southerners are, they still try to force their asinine views of morality on the rest of us.
____

this is about being forced to pay for YOUR birth control which I don't want to do. Do I ask you to pay for my Tampons? Should you be forced to pay for my Tampons?

11:08 pm February 15, 2012

Yankee wrote:

To the fool bigot dissing the South. There are a few moral people left in the East and North. If they want this time around the South and West can clean our clocks..it is a different country from 1860

11:09 pm February 15, 2012

Brian wrote:

shocking... not really.

11:09 pm February 15, 2012

Wife wrote:

Concubine, get your private sex life out of my Church, and don't expect me to fund your chosen sexual habits.

This isn't about enjoying sex, it's about forcing private and religious organizations to fund what they're religiously against. How would you feel if your tax money was being used to build Creation Museums?

11:09 pm February 15, 2012

Osamas Pajamas wrote:

Sebelius is "a woman with a gun" --- a government gun --- and she's determined to improve our lives whether we like it or not. I believe in gun control. Disarm Sebelius. Arm her intended victims. Order a pizza and pull up a stool. This could be very entertaining.

11:10 pm February 15, 2012

Support family planning wrote:

People have used birth control methods for thousands of years. Today, we have many safe and effective birth control methods available to us.
All of us who need birth control want to find the method that is best for us. And each of us has different needs when choosing a method. If you are trying to choose, learning about each method may help you make your decision. Use the list of birth control methods above to read about the methods.
Only you can decide what is best for you. And we are here to help. A staff member at your local Planned Parenthood health center can discuss all of your birth control options with you and help you get the birth control you need..

11:10 pm February 15, 2012

overkernel wrote:

Mr Hatch, did you ask if this was constitutional? That should have been query #1. The rest of your questions become inconsequential after a truthful answer/debate of constitutionality. Hatch, leave the GOP if you are going to be so deficient of gonads to ask the FUNDAMENTALS. Join the socialists. Don't do us any favors by asking questions that are killing the nation AFTER THE FACT. Sebelius? You don't deserve the oxygen you manage to inhale.

11:11 pm February 15, 2012

Osdamas Pajamas wrote:

I advocate that all Democrats practice abortion,or use contraception, or get sterilized, whether they like it or not. That should improve the gene pool, PDQ.

11:13 pm February 15, 2012

not quite Clement wrote:

Cleverness and Unkindness go together like horses and quartering.

11:14 pm February 15, 2012

Osamas Pajamas wrote:

To hear the jrk-off Democrats tell it, they are incompetent at the task of providing their own contraception, and, therefore, someone else must stick a gun in the face of a third party, to force that third party to pay for the Democrats' contraception requirements. And if a Democrat's dress caught on fire, he would want someone else to put the fire out.

11:14 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Dear Sharon: As one of those dumb southerners you refer to in your comment, thank you for making me look smart:) Your biased attacks on my community and culture only reinforce the saying "Yankee go home"

11:14 pm February 15, 2012

diane wrote:

Sebelius and Obama's mamas should have practiced abortion

11:14 pm February 15, 2012

Barry wrote:

Twenty Dollars: Birth Control is free..they need to stop spreading their legs

11:15 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

The Orthodox Christian Bishops in the USA have backed the Roman Catholic Bishops on this.

obama is pushing MANY people away from him and his policies. He has NOW lost mine and my husband's vote this time around . We were open to him BUT NOW HIS TRUE COLORS SHOW!!

IF he gets another term he will force churches to make their hospitals perform abortions.

People who have religious reasons NOT to be in favor of abortions HAVE righrts of conscience and the Supreme Court has already decided this BUT zerobama wants to be a DICTATOR .

11:16 pm February 15, 2012

Jubal wrote:

One of the cornerstones of American jurisprudence is the concept of "Equal Protection." It was the basis for the Civil Rights movement of the '60's, of all the pro-gay legislation and litigation, and it is being totally ignored now by the very people that clung to it, espoused it, and demanded it. The "Obamacare' legislation is so full of exemptions, exclusions, and lack of 'equal protection' that it is a world-wide joke. Pity no-one wants to admit that the donkey in the living room is pooping on the carpet.

11:19 pm February 15, 2012

Just Do It! wrote:

When it comes to frequency of sex, the old adage of "just do it" is backed up by science. More and more studies are showing increased emotional and physical benefits from frequent safe sex.
Lower mortality rates.
Reduced risk of prostate cancer.
Improves posture.
Boosts self esteem.
Makes a person feel younger.
Firms tummy and buttocks.
Keeps spouses connected emotionally.
Offers pain-relief.
Gives people a positive attitude on life.
Reduced risk of heart disease.
Makes a person more calm.
Improves fitness level.
Makes a person less irritable.
Reduced depression.
Improved sense of smell.
Has a therapeutic effect on immune system.
Better bladder control.
Relieves menstrual cramps.
Helps people sleep better.
Improves digestion.
Healthier teeth.
Helps folks remember more.
Produces chemicals in the brain to stimulate the growth of new dendrites.
Lowers the level of cortisol, a hormone that can trigger fatigue and cravings.
Lowers feelings of insecurity.
Increases level of commitment.
Less-frequent colds and flu.
It can help people achieve weight loss since about 200 calories are burned during 30 minutes of active sex.
Studies are also showing that it is a myth that abstinence can sharpen a person's competitive edge.

11:20 pm February 15, 2012

Alert wrote:

The godless degenerates and reprobates that run and support Planned Parenthood need to be aborted themselves...it would be better had they never been born.

11:22 pm February 15, 2012

Dodger wrote:

To Just Do It; Just get VD and go to hell already

11:22 pm February 15, 2012

NCMike wrote:

The biggest scam in this entire Obama administration directed debacle, has been the not so subtle changing of the language from the "Conscience Issue" of Catholic organizations being FORCED to dispense "morning after" Abortion pills, sterilization and contraceptive devices and pills, to the distracting, non-issue of "Contraceptives". The whole issue was about forcing Catholic organizations to violate conscience issues. It had nothing to do with Contraception, which was a media issue first raised by George Stephanopoulos at a Republican debate, and directed out of the blue at Romney. This whole distraction about contraceptions is purposefully changing the focus of the issue from one of religious freedom violations to "who's gonna pay for my pills and condoms??!!"

11:25 pm February 15, 2012

Can't Wait wrote:

Can wait for November! O'duma and Moochelle are out! The country will have liberty again.

11:27 pm February 15, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

She didn't consult the constitution either....

11:28 pm February 15, 2012

Buddy wrote:

TO NCMIKE: Staphonotforus was a Clintonian hack, truss carrier and ball washer for Bill

11:30 pm February 15, 2012

Tim wrote:

Nazerene here...supporting our Catholic brethern

11:32 pm February 15, 2012

Joseph wrote:

We are just serfs in her liberal dominated world. We are just not smart enough to know what is good for us; after all we "stick to our guns and religion." We are primitives to the liberal leftist elites like this elitist snob from the progressive side.

11:39 pm February 15, 2012

not quite Clement wrote:

November is always a rather parochial and particular moment. Kindness, however, is always there behind the scenes, if only one might listen for it.

11:44 pm February 15, 2012

Cogito wrote:

Sebelius was a good friend of Tiller the Baby Killer. He contributed to her campaign. She probably heiped him in his death clinic on occasion...just for fun.

11:45 pm February 15, 2012

Don't Negotiate With Pedophiles wrote:

or Bishops, which is about the same thing.

11:45 pm February 15, 2012

Cogito wrote:

She is not called the Kansas Black Widow for nothing.

11:47 pm February 15, 2012

Do the right thing wrote:

The Catholic Church rejects what it calls ‘artificial' methods of contraception, instead advocating a method of pregnancy prevention inspired by their theology, called Natural Family Planning. The method measures a woman’s temperature and fertile signs and, if pregnancy is to be avoided, prescribes abstinence during fertile periods. One NFP advocate, Janet Smith, estimates that no more than 4 percent of Catholics use the method, a fact that the administration officials took into consideration in their initial decision to require religious institutions to cover contraceptives.

11:47 pm February 15, 2012

Sock Puppets wrote:

There are only about three nuts who are accounting for 95% of the posts on this board -- you can tell from the same bad grammar of all the posts.

11:47 pm February 15, 2012

BigLouie15 wrote:

Sebelius is a fan of late term abortions. She is an elitist and therefore does not have to talk to the bishops. Maybe now these bishops and other Catholic clergy will finally wake up and see that they have been used by the left after having given support to illegal immigrants, unions and obamacare.

11:49 pm February 15, 2012

America is sick and tired of the anti-abortion whackos wrote:

These religious nuts should be shipped off to Africa or somewhere so that they can make so other continent miserable.

None of these are real Christians -- they are all the Pharisees who pray louder in the temple that everybody else.

11:49 pm February 15, 2012

Cogito wrote:

Obummer may have bitten off more of the Constitution than he can swallow.

This is not just a war on Catholicism. It is an attack on all people of faith. If government can violate the constitutionally protected rights of Catholics, then who is next?

160,554,636 Protestants
74,800,308 Catholics
5,320,524 Jews

245,995,992 Total

And 12,100,000 million deer hunters.

11:52 pm February 15, 2012

Dear Leader wrote:

Thank you for uniting the faithful

11:53 pm February 15, 2012

Most of the posters here wrote:

Are bitter and asexual old women who have not been laid in years, if then. They are the overweight and butch old sows that you just wish would forever stay out of sight.

Not having sex themselves, they don't want anybody else to have it either -- the Nurse Ballbreaker from Porky's types.

11:57 pm February 15, 2012

Joe wrote:

The secularists don't understand. I have the right and free will to ignore the teachings and rules of my Church - but you have no business butting in. If I choose to sin, it is my choice - if you decide that your new morality trumps my Churches doctrines, you will suffer my indignation and damn it, I am not going to stand for it. My religion, my faith, my choice to discuss with my priest. Don't give my Church orders on what to do!

12:01 am February 16, 2012

Zrebe wrote:

Another Blunder by O-Blunder..... This administration is made of Children and Micky Mouse is leading them....!!!

They're going out November 6th, 2012...........

America is coming after him and the rest of his party.....2010 was nothing.....just wait and see.........!

12:01 am February 16, 2012

Supporter of the Constitution wrote:

I'm not Catholic, but I work for a Catholic non-profit. I knew when I accepted this job that I was being asked to represent the values of my organization. I CHOSE to work here. No one was violating my rights; it was my decision. If you don't agree with those values, then you don't accept jobs at religious organizations that won't meet your needs. It's that simple. The government shouldn't be stepping in and forcing these organizations to violate their consciences.

And P.S. - My insurance coverage had previously included contraception and "family planning" until now. We just got word that our coverage for these items is being terminated. So good job, Obama! You've actually caused women to LOSE their coverage! And ya know what? I don't mind a bit if it proves to the government that they need to keep their tentacles out of business they don't belong in. This is Constitution 101.

Oduma & Moochelle need to force their children to be sterilized... we do not want a repeat...we will gladly pay for that...

12:07 am February 16, 2012

Scott Fitzgerald wrote:

When I attempted the read the Obamacare legislation I couldn't believe how virtually every page had "to be determined by the secretary" several times. This women may be the most powerful women in the country, and one of the most dangerous.

12:10 am February 16, 2012

Geneva Ayte wrote:

This is for "Do the Right Thing". Let me set you straight right now. This issue is not about how many Catholics are for or against artificial contraception, sterilization and all forms of abortion. This is about the power and authority given by Christ to St. Peter and by extension, to the bishops who succeeded him, to interpret scripture and in so doing, establish the doctrine of the Church. Perhaps you are familiar with the words "whatever you shall bind on earth shall be bound in heaven", etc. That's the mandate right there. The Church's position is clear on these things. In light of this, there is NO WAY that they can provide any means for Catholics or non-Catholics to obtain them. And by any means, this includes providing a policy which covers these things even if the Church does not fund this part of the policy. Regardless of what my personal opinion might be on these issues, I defend the right of the USCCB to uphold our doctrinal beliefs. The "everybody does it" excuse you put forth demonstrates no concept of articles of faith and morals. Unfortunately, your ignorance of my religion is shared by many. Even by ill-informed Catholics.

12:13 am February 16, 2012

Poll Trey wrote:

Duh...

Do foxes consult hens?

12:14 am February 16, 2012

Better Off wrote:

This country would be better off if it was run by the Christian bishops...

12:14 am February 16, 2012

Have Republicans consulted Bishops on Immigration Reform? wrote:

The Catholic Church's Proposal For Immigration Reforms

People of faith view public laws from a moral perspective.
Are the laws humane?

Do they serve the common good?

Do they uphold the God-given right of every member of society to human dignity and respect?
If laws do not conform to these principles, we believe we have a moral responsibility to work for change.

When the faith community looks at the current state of our immigration system and the effect that current laws have on immigrants and our society at large, we conclude they are woefully inadequate and in need of significant reform.

And, as is indicated by the participants on this panel who are looking at this question from a diverse range of perspectives, others who thoughtfully consider the status quo reach the same conclusion: our immigration system needs overhaul.

Now, what to do about it? What reforms are needed?

The starting point is to acknowledge all of the causes for the current state of affairs. If we are to truly fix the problems, we cannot take a narrow, one-dimensional approach.

What compels people to leave their homes, their loved ones, and that is dear to them? What are the push and pull factors involved in a persons decision to migrate?

What are our economys labor demands and available legal means to fill them?

How do we ensure that the institution of the family is a significant consideration in our immigration policies? How do we ensure family retention and timely reunification of separated families?

How can our immigration law enforcement policies reflect our humanitarian values as a nation, while effectively carrying out the critical task of identifying and preventing the entry terrorists and dangerous criminals?

An enforcement-only approach to solving the ills of our immigration system, such as was passed recently by the House of Representatives, is unnecessarily punitive, but also, will not address the problem.

We believe quite strongly that a comprehensive package of reforms will provide Americans with an immigration system that safeguards the homeland, restores the rule of law, and maintains our ideals as a nation of immigrants.

The components of such a comprehensive approach include:

Address root causes of migration that occurs out of necessity. Our nations trade, economic aid, debt relief, and other types of economic and social policies should help to create conditions in which people are not compelled to leave their homes.

Develop more responsive legal means to keep families intact, including the elimination of the long waits for family visas.

Create a workers program that allows legal avenues to match workers and jobs, and protects both U.S. and immigrant workers.

For those who are here in an unauthorized status and have been contributing members of their communities, give them an opportunity to earn the right to remain.

Create border protection policies and employ enforcement strategies that are effective in preventing the entry of would-be terrorists and dangerous criminals, while upholding humanitarian values.

As the Senate turns its attention to immigration reform proposals, we hope that this more comprehensive and, ultimately, more effective approach to fixing the ills of our current immigration system, will be pursued. The McCain-Kennedy proposal provides a very good approach to immigration reforms.

In so doing, our elected officials will demonstrate the kind of leadership and moral courage needed to bring our immigration laws and policies into the 21st century and truly address the growing problems created by the current system.

12:15 am February 16, 2012

Dr. Bill Connors wrote:

Sebelius has a long history of being a hard core supporter of abortions at any time during pregnancy. Ovarian cancer affects 1 in 8 women. Most women do not contract ovarian cancer. Breast cancer has been linked to estrogen and oral contraceptives. Contraception is not a health treatment. Pregnancy is not a diseased state.

12:22 am February 16, 2012

Vote Loud wrote:

Of course not!

Then she would have to say she went against their wishes and demands!

Marxist sympathizers are not stupid...

Just wrong!

12:28 am February 16, 2012

Prediction wrote:

This is the wicked Jezebel responsible for protecting Tiller the Killer, who got what was comng to him. Her time will come some day, too, and the dogs of hell await her.

12:31 am February 16, 2012

discovega wrote:

The face of pure evil. Years to come people will hate this hags face because it will represents bad things.

12:32 am February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Little Sharon wrote :

Questions wrote:….How many of you can correctly spell “Hypocrites” without reference to a dictionary or other source?

now come on – did you use auto correct?

Of course most of us can... One for you...

Can you spell arrogant?

Without reference to a dictionary or other source?

Need a mirror... Biaaaatttcchhh?

12:34 am February 16, 2012

dissenting views wrote:

12:10
Geneva Ayte:

I respect fully your right to follow the teachings of your church.

The United States is not a Catholic Country.

All Bishops also do not agree within their Conference of Bishops on many issues with the ultraconservative hierarchy.

12:34 am February 16, 2012

Todd wrote:

That vile parasite will burn in hell one day.

12:34 am February 16, 2012

Fatwah wrote:

When need the mullahs to issue some fatwahs against her...Our Lord is also one of Islam's prophets and they will protect his name where the gutless Christian minister waffle

12:35 am February 16, 2012

rehtus wrote:

Their credo is ANYTHING anti-Catholic as it refers to SEX. The Obama Administration is: Pro... Abortion, Gay Marriage, Birth Control, Divorce for any reason, and etc. The Liberal Dem's are very "Anti-Family." Whether it is on purpose or not, they are against the family.

12:38 am February 16, 2012

worried about purgatory wrote:

Should I consult with the bishops if can we eat meat on fridays?

please let me know

12:40 am February 16, 2012

John wrote:

At least the Roman Catholics are showing some backbone, and the Orthodox USA clergy have come out in support, and the Southern Baptist Convention; where are the rest of clergy. Time to speak up! Billy Graham needs to make a statement.

12:42 am February 16, 2012

Dave wrote:

Our government is vastly over-reaching. We are turning into Europe, the most developed nanny state, and collapsing under the weight of it's socialist governments. Birth control is an individual's right to choose, not an entitlement paid for by the government, which is actually the working class. Birth control should not be shoved down the throats of everyone, which is what is happening when the insurance companies pick it up. It is NOT free. We are STILL paying for it. It's time to trim government, trim welfare rolls and trim Obama's ego. One and Done 2012.

Does the sun still rotate around the center of the universe which is the Catholic Church in Rome?

Is the ex baby hitler youth pope benedict XVI infallible?

What happens to my soul when I take communion without confession?

Should we leave our kids alone with a priest?

12:50 am February 16, 2012

rehtus wrote:

Catholic's profess every Sunday (including Sebelius, Biden, Daily, and etc), "I believe in One, Holy, Catholic, and APOSTOLIC CHURCH." Apostolic Church means that we believe in the Historical Church started by Christ founded on the Apostles. The Bishops are the successors to the Apostles. Catholic Theology and Dogma are as follows: We must follow the teachings of the Bishops in unison with the Pope. It is really that simple. So, the Church (the Bishops) has declared for 2000 years that Abortion and Birth control are immoral and sinful (unless used for Medical Emergencies). In the last 50 years, the Pope's and the Bishops have written it in stone that "Abortion and Artificial Birth Control" are evil and sinful. This will never change no matter how many in the Laity ignore this teaching. The Catholic Church in NOT a Democracy, but a Hierarchy with Christ as the King and the Pope is his Prime Minister. So get over it.

As for eating meat on Fridays, this is only a disciplinary action of the Church... it is not Dogma... it can change..... the same goes for Celibacy of Priests. As for Women being Priest, it will NEVER EVER happen, the Church as declared this impossible years ago, it is Dogma - a done deal. Sorry.

12:52 am February 16, 2012

Kirk wrote:

Dear confused,
The Church, which is both the Bride of Christ as well as His mystical Body, is spotless. This is true, even though it is comprised entirely of sinners. How? Thankfully, the spotlessness of the Church does not rest with the members. If it did, there could be no true Church, as every earthly Church is comprised of sinners. The Catholic Church claims to be spotless and indefectible, while at the same time acknowledging the shortcomings of all members (including the Pope)
We alone among Christianity can say that we do not bind error; an easy example is birth control - until the 1930's, every Christian church stated that birth control is morally wrong. Since then, all but one have reversed positions. The conclusion is simple - either they taught error then, or they teach error now. Only one whose teachings haven't changed can be said to be indefectible. If it is indefectible, the gates of hell will never prevail and she will remain the "spotless Bride of Christ", regardless of the moral status of any individual member.

12:53 am February 16, 2012

Jimbo wrote:

So why should Sebelius, a secular consult Catholic bishops? She has no concern over beliefs or non-athistic ethos.

12:58 am February 16, 2012

Blake wrote:

Sebelius should consult the constitution of the US. Unfortunately she and her fraud boss ignore the founding documents completely.

1:01 am February 16, 2012

rehtus wrote:

@Jimbo.

1st of all, Sebelius is a Catholic. She should know better than to promote something that her professed Church tells us is "Murder" and Intrinsically evil. She is a Heretic and she has excommunicated herself years ago by taking money from George Tiller so she could get elected Governor in Kansas. She then made sure that the Kansas Laws would not change so Tiller could keep up his 3rd Trimester Abortions. She is truly lost. Also, she used her "Catholic" upbringing to garnish votes. Sick woman.

2nd. What about the Second Amendment? The Catholic Church has been in the USA since its founding in 1776. Not one time has the US Government forced the Church to go against its teaching as it refers to Abortion or birth control. Why, all of a sudden, does Obama think he has precedent over the Catholic Church in America when for 200 years, the Federal gov't stayed out of the Church's business on this issue? If the Catholic Church believes that "Abortion" is Murder, then why is the Federal Gov't saying, "Tuff - Obey or pay." Obama is slowly turning into a Tyrant with the Senate protecting his back.

1:07 am February 16, 2012

James Tits wrote:

We must overthrow the Tyrant and his followers this November.

1:08 am February 16, 2012

Barney Bigballs wrote:

James, you are guilty of treason.

1:09 am February 16, 2012

James Tits wrote:

Barney, the constitution demands we overthrow an oppressive government. It is our responsibility as inheritors of liberty.

1:10 am February 16, 2012

a thought wrote:

The catholic church should start its own insurance company

1:11 am February 16, 2012

Nathan Nuts wrote:

Inheritors?

1:12 am February 16, 2012

ok then wrote:

Kirk...........We do not have to believe all that sh¡t do we?

1:12 am February 16, 2012

George Clooney wrote:

Mr Thought, The Knights of Columbus is the largest and strongest Life insurance company in the world.

1:14 am February 16, 2012

DennisF wrote:

Over 70 million Catholics in the US, 1/3rd of the electorate...Lets all come together in November, with one clear voice and proclaim our faith in God and Country.

1:15 am February 16, 2012

JohnRalph wrote:

Mein Führer Obama is a perverse amalgamation of both types of evil totalitarian socialism.

Nationalist Socialist right wing (NAZI / Fascist) believed in socialism for a particular race or ethnic group in reality though no different than the left's socialism.

Like Stalin, for the Slavic Russians, or Pol Pot, for the Khmer Rouge, or Ho Chi Minh, for the Viet Minh, or Mao, for the Han Chinese

Obama is okay with either one...he’s replaced race with, America’s liberal elite, Muslims, OWS and welfare voters on the dole.
Or he’s okay with (communist) worldwide enslavement...ruled by him of course.

Economically the primary difference between the two is Nationalist allowed some civilian control where as Communist wanted total government control...again Obama's okay with either one, as long as his cronies are in charge.

Nazism, the common short form name of National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus) was the ideology and practice of the National Socialist German Workers' Party (otherwise known as the Nazi Party) and of Nazi Germany. It is a unique variety of socialist fascism that incorporates biological racism and antisemitism.

1:15 am February 16, 2012

Kirk wrote:

Dear ok, No you don't. God gave us free will and we ultimately choose heaven or hell. It's up to you. Although I can pray for 9 days straight while drinking water only that you will convert to catholicism and that usually works.

1:16 am February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Why not ask a Christian Scientist ?

Pray

1:18 am February 16, 2012

Ralph Lauren wrote:

I want to design Pope Ben's new shoes. I would be honored. Oh my.

1:20 am February 16, 2012

Lenny Littleballs wrote:

Well, it looks to me that the big chief has appointed Ms. Sebelius to take a bullet for him, lol

1:26 am February 16, 2012

Rick Santorum wrote:

I will be the best president since George Washington. Thank you for your support.

Why are the Democrats so determined to wipe out as many poor and minority and people as they can? And why do they want to replace them with illegals who they authorize to vote? Doesn't this mean Democrats and especially liberals hate themselves and want to become extinct?

1:43 am February 16, 2012

alanwillingham wrote:

They are either illiterate and can't read the First Amendment or intentionally attempting to overthrow the government. Either way, they are dangerous and must be removed from any position of authority before they can actually start riots in the streets

1:43 am February 16, 2012

Juan Degeneris wrote:

I come to america for free stuff and handouts. I love america! you are so generous and helpful. I never have to work! You give me food, rent, car, school, clothes and I travel all over in my new motorhome! Thank you, thank you america! I love you!

1:45 am February 16, 2012

Defend Thyself wrote:

Why is the cucking funt trying to tell us what to do. When will the American public quit running to the Govt for everything and when will the Supreme court, who is peppered with socialist, hear the case about the Constitutionality of Obozocare. And when will this country grow some balls and get rid of Obozo?

1:46 am February 16, 2012

EyeSpyPro wrote:

I hate ass wipes like Juan Degeneris who come here to take my tax dollars; Fck you beaner, go home.

1:46 am February 16, 2012

juan again wrote:

And now i get free birth control for my wife. No more bambinos! Just vacation forever! thank you america!

1:51 am February 16, 2012

juan one more time wrote:

EyeSpyPro, I have nothing against you. It's the free Obama stuff I want, not yours. you should try too! Someone from the office who gave me the food card and other stuff said I can vote for Obama and I not even a citizen. This is great no? Maybe then you get free stuff too!

2:00 am February 16, 2012

Geneva Ayte wrote:

Dissenting views:
Thank you for the civility.
But I don't follow the value of your stating the obvious, i.e., that the US is NOT a Catholic country. If there were only a dozen of us standing amid a population over 300 million, the facts in this discussion remain constant. I am missing your point, so please enlighten me.
As for this doozy: ..." All Bishops also do not agree within their Conference of Bishops on many issues with the ultraconservative hierarchy": ... where do I begin? How about here: Perhaps the bishops fight like cats and dogs behind closed doors over many issues. But I can assure you that you will NOT find one who will contradict Church doctrine. Any Church doctrine. Let me simplify this for you: there are viewpoints they would LIKE us to have and there are viewpoints which are NOT open to negotiation. Example: Some Bishops might refuse Sebelius the Eucharist; others could make a compelling case why she should receive it. That division represents a difference of opinion on interpretation of certain canon law. But there is NO Bishop who will condone artificial contraception, sterilization and any form of abortion. Those are doctrinal issues and as such, any attempt to force us to deviate from respecting doctrine is a DEAL BREAKER. The Obama/Sebelius juggernaut is a perfect example. Simply put, if we pay for the coverage, we are the perp; if we allow somebody else to pay for it, we are an accessory. Neither flies according to Church doctrine.

2:00 am February 16, 2012

Secretary Sebelius followed the requirements of the Constitution. wrote:

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Article Six of the United States Constitution establishes the Constitution and the laws and treaties of the United States made in accordance with it as the supreme law of the land, forbids a religious test as a requirement for holding a governmental position and holds the United States under the Constitution responsible for debts incurred by the United States under the Articles of Confederation.

Consulting with Catholic Bishops is a Religious Test that is forbidden as a requirement for holding a governmental position.

2:01 am February 16, 2012

Real Rick wrote:

The best thing to happen to Kansas was Katie moving to DC. The worst thing to happen to the USA (besides Obama) was Katie moving to DC.

2:20 am February 16, 2012

Guru wrote:

Forcing a Catholic to do this is equivalent of making a Muslim eat pork. What do you idiots not understand about this? We will NOT comply with your tyrannical and oppressive laws. Non-Catholics still have the right to buy contraception but FORCING me to pay for it is an absolute joke.

2:28 am February 16, 2012

big air wrote:

ya but were does it say they should be exempt from taxs let them go it alone! that right im a atiest were my tax free exemption ?

2:28 am February 16, 2012

Brendan T. Mahoney, Esq. wrote:

To Arms. To Arms. You hear me boys.
Let this insult be the last.

2:31 am February 16, 2012

Joe CEO wrote:

Nobody should be forced to offer birth control to their employees, not just the Catholic Church.

2:35 am February 16, 2012

Publius wrote:

Hatch doesn't think so? Have you ever heard of RFRA? It's against the law to require coverage. Not to mention the Constitution. Bt those minor impediments don't stop Obama the Dictator

2:36 am February 16, 2012

Sensible wrote:

I'm afraid four more years of the Chicago way is in our future. Latest stats show 2.4 million dead people on voters role throughout the country. If used strategically, the dead could swing the vote. Zombie nation?

2:38 am February 16, 2012

billiehester wrote:

At 2:00 am February 16, 2012, someone wrote, "Consulting with Catholic Bishops is a Religious Test that is forbidden as a requirement for holding a governmental position."

I shudder to think that a minimum of 20% or more of the populace who vote are that stupid -- regardless of which way they vote.

2:54 am February 16, 2012

vivi wrote:

What so many reporters and all the dems who support this bill don't understand is this: The Catholic Church is not a democracy. The people in the pews don't elect the pope or their cardinals, they don't decide dogma, and this stand against contraception is dogma. Therefore, it's irrelevant how many Catholics practice birth control, it's irrelevant to talk about this topic in terms of any law other than the First Amendment. The Catholic Church has operated hospitals, orphanages and universities for more than a millenniium, as part of its apostolic mission. It is not up to the government to decide what constitutes a Catholic Institution, or how Catholic a Catholic institution should be. If a Catholic university flouts Catholic teaching by offering free contraception to its employees, that is a matter for the Catholic diocese to handle. It is not a carte blanche for the government to decide it can interfere. The White House is not part of the Holy See, and Sibelius and Pelosi are not archbishops. Why hasn't anyone asked them what parish they belong to? I bet they don't even know.

2:55 am February 16, 2012

Walter S, Kansas wrote:

I'll wager that Geneva Ayte (2:00 am February 16, 2012) also understands that it doesn't matter how many Catholics violate Church doctrine either -- or how much "cheaper" it is to provide contraception, sterilization, and abortion-inducing drugs than it is to cover a pregnancy.

It's not only a matter of principal vs. principle, it's a matter of law. And the supreme law of the land -- the Constitution -- supersedes any common law or statutory law in conflict with it. The constitutional provision at issue is not the religious test provision of Article VI, but the religious freedom provision of the First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. . . ."

3:11 am February 16, 2012

mahnaz wrote:

Doesn't it feel like the WH Occupiers have picked up the pace of Fundamental Transformation in the past few months?! It seems so to me. It seems like they know time is not on their side and they better do to this country what they aimed to do while they can!

3:36 am February 16, 2012

Dan O'Connor wrote:

I'm very disappointed that Mrs. Sebelius has turned out to be a pro abortionist as she is a member of a very
influential Catholic family in Cincinnati--the Gilligans. My parents are buried at Gate of Heaven Cemetery in a
plot that borders on the very large Gilligan family plot. I pray that Mrs. Sebelius is not planted any where near
my Mother and Father, as a matter of fact I hope that the Gilligan family does not allow her to be buried at
their family plot at all, when her time comes. May she not rest in peace.

Mother and Father.

3:52 am February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Excommunicate Sebelius, Biden and Pelosi, simple as that.

4:26 am February 16, 2012

Earlene wrote:

According to the Guttmacher Institute (an offshoot of Planned Parenthood), "Direct medical costs associated with STIs in the United States are estimated at $14.7 billion annually in 2006 dollars." That's only for direct medical costs and doesn't include the costs of missed work for illness or treatment -- or the costs of getting to and from doctors and hospitals, babysitters, etc. Shouldn't those costs be taken into consideration when talking about the cost effectiveness of health insurance? -- not just how much less it costs insurance companies to cover contraceptives for women than it does to cover their pregnancies, wanted or unwanted.

If those costs were considered, it should do a lot to weaken the cost effectiveness argument for birth control pills. STIs are obviously a significant and costly health issue for men as well as for women. That argues for the use of condoms as contraceptives. Condoms may not be as effective at birth control as the pills are, but they're a damned sight more effective as a means of preventing the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Condoms are also a lot cheaper than birth control pills.

The only side effect of using condoms you need to concern yourself with is pregnancy. Not so with birth control pills. . . . Oh, that's right. I forgot. Men don't like to wear rubbers. Sex doesn't feel as good with a rubber for women either, does it?

4:33 am February 16, 2012

nifongnation wrote:

She looks scary.

5:35 am February 16, 2012

Frank Stein wrote:

The White House and its minions in the media have managed to spin what's going on from a "who pays?" issue into a "women's health and women's rights" issue by using terms such as "women's access to health care." No one -- not even Catholic bishops -- no one is seriously pushing the notion that women should not be able to buy contraceptives on their own nickel. It's never been about "access"; it's always been about who pays for "free" contraceptives. By and large, men and women both like the idea of getting something for free -- contraceptives in this case.

I might be wrong -- that happens on very rare occasions in general, more often with politics -- but I think obama wins the political game on this one.

5:36 am February 16, 2012

harry wrote:

just another example of obama thought. these loons have taken over every part of our government. womb to toom...greece here we come.

5:51 am February 16, 2012

Keith wrote:

...First they came for the Catholics...who's next?

5:53 am February 16, 2012

Arthur wrote:

In her current column, Ann Coulter argues that contraceptives should have nothing to do with "insurance." You can find it by googling this: "Wait until they have to buy coverage for vibrating butt-plugs!"

5:57 am February 16, 2012

LWC Kingdad wrote:

Ms Selbelius should be excommunicated from the RC Church.
She has supported Abortion and accepted lots of money from known abortionists and she has actively stopped legal proceedings against them. It is long past due for the USCCB to make an example of a flagrant Catholic that has and continues to bring scandal upon the church through their actions. I submit that Ms Selbelius fits that niche quite nicely and speaking on my own behalf I know that many Catholics long to see someone like her made an example of.

6:19 am February 16, 2012

End "The Obamanation" wrote:

"Sebelius Didn’t Consult Bishops on Contraception Deal?" I suspect she didn't, but really, she wasn't required to do so. However, what both Sebelius and "The Obamanation" were required to do was to consult the U.S. Constitution to avoid trampling all over it like they did, but, ever the narcissistic liars who care only about themselves, they didn't do that either.

6:40 am February 16, 2012

Max wrote:

Obama's only concern was appeasing the ACLU and Planned Parenthood, not the Bishops, he only intended to imply he consulted with the Bishops to mislead the public... Again.

6:45 am February 16, 2012

Possum336 wrote:

when the bishops agree to raise all of the kids that result from unwanted pregnancy, and they are allowedd to have sex with females. then they may have standing to molalize to others. But until then, I guess they just don'r mater much.

6:49 am February 16, 2012

Jack P wrote:

This woman is so far over the top that she will open an abortion mill when she leaves office, which I hope will be very soon.

6:50 am February 16, 2012

AAC wrote:

The Bishops were consulted as much as republicans were consulted by the Obama Administration.

This is how this Administration operates. It dismisses opposing viewpoints, dodging and making proclamations all the while. It only finally talks with opponents when it has no choice and/or votes are at stake.

With a negotiating style like this, is it any wonder we have the gridlock we do?

7:03 am February 16, 2012

Man Have No Rights wrote:

Kill a life we'll pay for it, have a life we will pay for it, women need to get a life and stop playing the Victim card! Men need to fight for their rights, men have NO reproductive rights!!! Just Sayin.

7:05 am February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Erice wrote:

"I recognize I’m biased but frankly if you don’t care enough to even check whether the new position helps at all, that’s the same as saying you don’t care. In that case, why make any change at all?"

***
He has to keep his allies happy and prevent a loss of votes. The Bishops are irrelevant.

7:07 am February 16, 2012

Jsmith wrote:

Tyrants don't consult. Did Hitler consult the Jews? Did Stalin consult the Ukrainians? Of course Obama didn't consult the Catholics. He's a tyrant who rules by decree.

7:17 am February 16, 2012

Kevin Stroup wrote:

The Catholic Church was a big pusher for socialized medicine in this country. I hope they choke on it.

7:18 am February 16, 2012

Mr. Bizniz wrote:

And you know she's allegedly a Catholic. Shame.

7:19 am February 16, 2012

Bob wrote:

This article is just a smoke screen, what should really concern people is the issue of what gives the President the idea that he has the authority to think that he can arbitrarily dictate thru execetive decree what services a business must provide?

7:26 am February 16, 2012

joyce wrote:

The goverment is taking away our Freedoms!

7:29 am February 16, 2012

bob litfin wrote:

Why would she care...So far the Obama machine knows all and needs no input

7:30 am February 16, 2012

Hatch the hatchet man wrote:

Consulting with Catholic Bishops is a Religious Test that is forbidden as a requirement for holding a governmental position.

That is the issue. Hatch is a wicked bas.tard, he would have had legal grounds to accuse her and the President of violation of Article VI and the 1st Amendment.

Now, most of the comments here are ignorant and not credible.

Consult with bishops?

Preposterous!

7:31 am February 16, 2012

Ablecynic wrote:

If the Catholic Bishops were truly serious about this, they would simply announce that no person in elected or appointed office who supports the President on this issue may receive the sacraments. And any priest who violates that order will be removed from the church. Of course that would actually require the Bishops to take an action, not just speak, so I don't expect it to happen. If Joe Biden or Nancy Pelosi were barred from the Eucharist, it would make for some interesting pressure on the Muslim president.

7:33 am February 16, 2012

Jill wrote:

How could the proposal be considered a "deal" or "compromise" if the opposition was never even consulted? Perhaps the writer of this article could review the way his contribution was slanted. Maybe with a dictionary handy.

7:34 am February 16, 2012

Ex-American wrote:

Where in Sharia law does it state that the non-believers must be told? Get with it. Her and BigSis are doing more important work like the law for no-sex marriage.

7:34 am February 16, 2012

Sam Freeman wrote:

I agree that all religious institutions should be exempt from covering contraception. But, why stop there? I believe Everyone should be exempt from covering Everything. Toss this abomination from the Obama-Nation out entirely.

7:35 am February 16, 2012

AAC wrote:

Matt Phinish:

Of course she didn’t talk to them. She’s not stupid. She knew what the response would be.

***
You are right. She knew they wouldn't support the mandate. She, at least, was more honest than President Obama, who tried to appear as the great compromiser, when, in fact, he had no interest whatsoever in the Bishops' concerns.

7:38 am February 16, 2012

TickeOff wrote:

"We are the Borg. You will be assimilated. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile."

7:40 am February 16, 2012

Mas papistas que el Papa wrote:

After the dust of this controversy settles the President approval will be higher as a result of the stupidity of republicans.

The teabuggers have nothing to offer on the economy or jobs. They are trying social wedge issues trying to be even more papist than the Pope.

Waste of time.

7:44 am February 16, 2012

twolazy wrote:

Deal – smeal, there was no deal or compromise, it was just wordsmithed and sent back out, smoke and mirrors.

These “sandbox kids” were a royal pain when they were 5 or 6 years old, now they are downright dangerous. This “regulation” is only the tip of the iceberg, now that they passed the bill we are seeing whats inside and it gonna be ugly.

Remember this isn't about health care, its about destroying the church, in their view Government is the true God.

7:46 am February 16, 2012

Winston wrote:

When will the Gov understand this isn't about the money. It's about demanding the church to go directly against there teaching.

You don't really expect anyone in this administration to
1 answer a question directly
2. tell the truth
Stop sleep-walking

7:58 am February 16, 2012

Orrin Hatch, mormon senator . wrote:

7:54

And then baptize them using mormon baptizing methods.

8:01 am February 16, 2012

AZsmitty, Arizona wrote:

Clever by half......this isn't about contraception, it is about circumventing Constitutional protection from Government intervention in religous affairs........do not be decieved!

8:03 am February 16, 2012

Where is Martin Luther? wrote:

You are all going to hell for this and that.

Now if you want to buy some ingulgence certificates we can plea bargain and reduce your sentence.

8:06 am February 16, 2012

My Opinion wrote:

All the talk about this issue seems to be focused from the point of view of organizations, e.g., Cathoic Church catholic institutions, insurance companies, HHS, but I think it should focus, as well, on the affect this has on my individual rights. Catholic or not, the way it stands, my right as an individual is eliminated and I, personally, have no redress. I pay insurance premiums and I DO NOT wish ANY of my premiums to pay for someone else's reproductive choices. If the administration can decide for me regarding such personal and important issue as this, then they can decide everything for me any time. My freedom, guaranteed by the Constituion, is crushed.

8:07 am February 16, 2012

Sanctum Sanctorum wrote:

Vote for Santorum and send him money.

The only true catholic

8:10 am February 16, 2012

Lives7 wrote:

This is about the repeal of the First Amendment Constitutional Rights. When Senator Barbra Boxer declares publicly that Contraceptive Rights EXCEEDS the First Amendment of the US Constitution Bill of Rights there are BIGGER problems with these liberals. First to fall will be the Bishops of the Catholic Church, then the liberals will attack the Free Speech of their political, social, and cultural opponents, then they will attack the Free Right to Associate in certain groups. Our Constitution is NOW in crisis, and we are heading down an unknown future... Shame on Obama for destroying our liberties.

8:15 am February 16, 2012

Independent wrote:

This is NOT about contraception. Any women, anywhere in the US can decide on their own whether to use contraception, with whomever they want, whenever they want. But that choice may have consequences and we as taxpayers do not want MANDATES from the government telling people what they have to insure, what they have to pay for when someone else is irresponsible, and trying to change the discussion into a woman's health issue. Sex and pregnancy are not illness or health issues. Both can be avoided or not. Choices have responsibilities except when the governments gets involved. Rights impose no duty on others when in the context of things like free speech. But when you start taking that some argument about rights to material things, then when someone doesn't pay....someone else has to pay for them. There is no Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy,etc. Those who are making light of this mandate should be careful, as something you hold near and dear could be mandated away just as easily.

8:17 am February 16, 2012

Grim wrote:

It is too bad that those who are so in favor of contraception and abortion did not have those same procedures used on them

8:20 am February 16, 2012

dutch wrote:

How would you like to wake up next to that, Thank your lucky stars,

8:24 am February 16, 2012

Chris G wrote:

Marie Antoinette Sebelius, the abortion queen, they will do as I say and like it. Is it any surprise what these people are pulling? And it's just the beginning.

8:26 am February 16, 2012

Fact Checker wrote:

To Obama supporters, check out the Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2270-2273. Oh I know, you aren't used to fact checking, only listening to rhetoric. Ok, now tell all the world why Obama deserves a second term: aren't gas, food, and energy prices high enough? Does Christianity need further rights taken away? Is Obama's work not done yet in placing our country in debt from which we never may recover? How far will Obama cut the military before "his work is done"? One more: do you really think this controversial mandate is the only mandate Nancy Pelosi and Obama didn't want known until after passage of Obamacare? Ah, can't help myself, how many bribes have been given in the form of campaign donations to 'Mr. Hope and Change"?
Just wonderin' as G.E. pays 6.9% tax, Buffet pays 15%, and Buffets secretary 35%.....and G.E. has exported over 20,000 USA jobs and their CEO is the Obama Jobs Czar....maybe we need more Czars....idiots

8:28 am February 16, 2012

Chris G wrote:

Hey Agnosticat, you do have a right not to believe, but try not believing in the secular religion and its sacraments of abortion, global warming and one-way multiculturalism and see where it gets you. And I might add, when the Islamists take over the show, and that is coming soon, I doubt you'll be so mouthy about not believing in religion, they have ways of making you believe.

8:32 am February 16, 2012

AltheDago wrote:

If there's no discussion and no agreement, then it's not a compromise. This is mere stage dressing anyway. Who do they think is going to pay for the coverage? The insuror? Not bloody likely. Insurance companies don't stay in business by giving coverage away. The cost of the coverage will necessarily be passed to the policy holder (ie: the employer) regardless of what the fine print says.

8:33 am February 16, 2012

Alex wrote:

Remember this is the same women that gave Tiller the Baby killer a pass!

8:37 am February 16, 2012

every sperm is sacred wrote:

The Senator did not make a big deal about it like you people.

A non issue, move on now.

Now get back in bed and make some babies.

8:39 am February 16, 2012

Henry of Glastonbury wrote:

I really do wish there was a time machine by which we could transport most of these bishops to 12th Century Europe. They would be so much happier there. Just think, they could, forsooth, engage in a witch hunt, burn a heretic or two, and if they decided to form a strong, avuncular relationship with a choir boy, who would tell them they couldn't. The they could ban and burn a book or two that disagreed with their views. They could then join his lordship for a venison pasty and strong ale. Yes, many of them would just adore the 12th Century when they lorded it over the people. Tough turtles its the 21st, eh?

8:41 am February 16, 2012

LetEmCryAllTheyWant wrote:

Hey... we're the government! We don't need God's permission to do anything...

Unless it would in some way harm the way the Muslims think of us... in that case... we'll bend over backwards to make sure they're not offended!

8:44 am February 16, 2012

Every Sperm is Sacred wrote:

Every Sperm is Sacred
There are Jews in the world.
There are Buddhists.
There are Hindus and Mormons, and then
There are those that follow Mohammed, but
I've never been one of them.
I'm a Roman Catholic,
And have been since before I was born,
And the one thing they say about Catholics is:
They'll take you as soon as you're warm.
You don't have to be a six-footer.
You don't have to have a great brain.
You don't have to have any clothes on. You're
A Catholic the moment Dad came,
Because
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.
Let the heathen spill theirs
On the dusty ground.
God shall make them pay for
Each sperm that can't be found.
Every sperm is wanted.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.
Hindu, Taoist, Mormon,
Spill theirs just anywhere,
But God loves those who treat their
Semen with more care.
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate.
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood!
Every sperm is useful.
Every sperm is fine.
God needs everybody's.
Mine! And mine! And mine!
Let the Pagan spill theirs
O'er mountain, hill, and plain.
God shall strike them down for
Each sperm that's spilt in vain.
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is good.
Every sperm is needed
In your neighbourhood.
Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite iraaaaate!
From Monty Python's "The Meaning of Life"

8:46 am February 16, 2012

Jerry Lapple wrote:

Kathleen, before she's done will make her idol, Ilse Koch, look like a rank amateur......... Just kidding!

8:47 am February 16, 2012

Bob M wrote:

She is the most arrogant piece of garbage. From shredding all her files in KS so she is not prosecuted for allowing illegal abortions to all the BS and unconstitutional crap she is doing in DC. What a POS.

8:47 am February 16, 2012

Daron W wrote:

To make a point, for just one second we will pretend that this mandatory heath care is constitutional. With that said the following statement has some problems:"The compromise requires religious employers like schools and charities to offer contraception in employee health plans but wouldn’t require them to pay for it, instead shifting the costs to health-insurance providers."

The problem is if the Church or the Institution is providing the Healthcare to the person,& the insurance company is the one incurring the cost of the contraceptive then the Church or institution is still paying for it through premiums.

What is wrong with everyone? Why can't you see that the legislature to "help" people & solve the issues of personal responsibility actually do more harm than good? For just one Presidential term can we try to maybe just follow the Constitution & nothing more?

At some point the Government is going to push the productive members of the population to the point of breaking & we are going to have some real problems.

8:48 am February 16, 2012

killerbee wrote:

ALEX, exactly!! This demonic liberal beeeeetch SUPPORTED Tiller the Baby Killer even at aborting in the LAST MONTH of pregnacy. She was a HUGE FAN of PARTIAL BIRTH MURDER probably because she and Tiller could see the pain, torture and squirming of the murdered child. Of course she and the dead Tiller would tell you its okay to do partial birth to "save" the mother. How does pulling a human being 3/4 of the way out of its "mothers" womb, stop everything, JAM scirrors into the childs skull and then pull the baby the rest of the way out "save" the mother?????? Hmmm??? Enlightened MURDEROUS liberal's please explain.

8:50 am February 16, 2012

Geoff Caldwell wrote:

Let's get this straight. Creating a "right" that didn't exist in the first place using "power" that you didn't have in the first place does not a "compromise" make when you temporarily "give up" a sliver of that here to for non-existent power.
Only the ignorant believe this is about phantom "women's rights" and "health". This sets a precedent that should have every citizen screaming NO. Today it's free birth control, what will it be tomorrow?

8:51 am February 16, 2012

Odumba wrote:

Another example of the tyrannical ineptitude of this evil administration.

8:53 am February 16, 2012

Do Hutchinson wrote:

Evidence that we need an experienced manager as President who knows how to delegate , and who can pick effective managers for delegation. Sebelius only joins the ranks of other failede delegates such as Chu, LaHood and others

8:54 am February 16, 2012

Quik Hit wrote:

That's because she's been practically excommunicated. She's all for killing children and the Church will not let her receive in the U.S. anymore.

8:59 am February 16, 2012

Every Sperm for Rick wrote:

Get out of this echo chamber and go work to make Rick Santorum the next President.

9:00 am February 16, 2012

blackirishblonde wrote:

I am so sick of hearing the word "contraceptives"---the media needs to tell it like it really is:
This new "mandate" was not just about contraceptives, it would also mandate the Catholic Hospitals to include abortifacient drugs and sterilization free of charge.No government has the right to compel its citizens to violate their conscience.This is a slippery slope--The writing is on the wall .This Administration wants these hospitals closed.

9:03 am February 16, 2012

Satan wrote:

I'm thrilled to see you all, your hearts so full of hate for people you've nevere even met. You've all repudiated the words of Jesus, your hearts are full of hate, and you give me more power in the world.

Go, my minions at WSJ and Fox News! Continue to recruit people to my army of hatred!!

9:04 am February 16, 2012

PA Catholic wrote:

As a Catholic, it is a sin for me to knowingliy participate in the sin of another. The use of artificial birth control is a sin, so me providing to to someone else is also a sin. Abortion is a sin, so me providing a "plan B" drug to someone else is also a sin. I suppose that I'm just clinging to my guns and religion. Such is the life of a Catholic trying to be faithful.

9:04 am February 16, 2012

Spermcounts wrote:

Get out of this echo chamber and go work to make Rick Santorum the next President.

Here’s the bill:

The Oklahoma Legislature finds that:

1. The life of each human being begins at conception;

2. Unborn children have protectable interests in life, health, and well-being; and

3. The natural parents of unborn children have protectable interests in the life, health, and well-being of their unborn child.

C. The laws of this state shall be interpreted and construed to acknowledge on behalf of the unborn child at every stage of development all the rights, privileges, and immunities available to other persons, citizens, and residents of this state.

D. As used in this section, “unborn child” or “unborn children” shall include all unborn children or the offspring of human beings from the moment of conception until birth at every stage of biological development.

E. Nothing in this section shall be interpreted as creating a cause of action against a woman for indirectly harming her unborn child by failing to properly care for herself or by failing to follow any particular program of prenatal care.

9:05 am February 16, 2012

Jewel wrote:

Birth Control pills are also used to treat the following medical conditions: endometriosis, ovarian cysts, dysmenorrhea, and acne vulgaris (cystic acne). So, what about those women who need birth control to treat these medical condtions, some of which are painful. Also, the bill includes sterilization. Having a hysterectomy is sterilization, but what if the procedure was needed due to a fibroid cyst, or a woman's uterus falling out. I know of two women who had to have a hysterectomy for those reasons. I understand the Church's position, but it would be wrong to make a sweeping generalization without considering the full ramifications.

9:05 am February 16, 2012

Ralph wrote:

President Obama’s announcement on Friday fundamentally changes nothing. The religious organization's insurance premiums will still pay for the objectionable services that are contrary to Catholic doctrine.

9:06 am February 16, 2012

rickshelton wrote:

A shell game by the Obama team. Let me see if I understand. We won't have to pay but the insurance provider will. And where will the insurance company recover that new cost?... from us! These are the same economic geniuses who thought giving 100's of billions of dollars to government agencies and political contributors would stimulate the economy and keep unemployment under 8%.

9:07 am February 16, 2012

statesrule wrote:

Contraceptives = Distraction from Obama the Bumbler

9:07 am February 16, 2012

edwardo wrote:

She is NOT a Catholic, the Church should excommunicate them all! but, then the Church would not have anyone in high office, but they are CINO, Catholics in name only.

9:15 am February 16, 2012

Gary in Salina wrote:

Why, why, WHY on earth would the government consult the Chatholic church about anything? IT IS A CHURCH. They do not control what policies the government makes. They are free to comment about policies, offer suggestions, petetion, etc., BUT THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT SHOUNT NOT CONSULT WITH THE CHATHOLIC CHURCH ABOUT POLICY ANY MORE THAN THEY SHOULD CONSULT WITH THE MORMON CHURCH, THE ISLAMIC RELIGION LEADERS, OR OTHERS!

9:15 am February 16, 2012

Glenn Bowen wrote:

Prevaricator.

9:15 am February 16, 2012

FL_Catholic wrote:

What a surprise! This good Catholic, Kathleen Sebelius, didn't consult the bishops first before mandating something that goes against the Faith.

Didn't the bishop of Kansas pull her aside several times while she was governor to ask her not to receive the Eucharist again until she changes her position on abortion. So now she's mandating that EVERYONE provide free birth control, sterilizations, and abortion-inducing drugs!

If that isn't the biggest FU to God, Church, and country, I don't know what is.

9:16 am February 16, 2012

Rank wrote:

Simply put... FIRE HER!

9:18 am February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

This is what's most alarming about the Obama-Mainstream Media Nexus, that the Washington Post, etc. haven't called "BS" on this "compromise" which is 100% Alice in Wonderland logical. If a religious institution offers health insurance to its employees, such insurance plan must cover free sterilization and contraception products and services. However, the religious institution will not have to "pay" for this coverage - such costs will be borne by the insurance carrier.

Huh? There is no insurance plan that I know of that charges its customers on the basis of each item covered by such insurance. The cost of insurance is based upon the aggregation of items covered by a policy and the risk profile of its customers. Thus, any added cost of providing coverage for sterilization and contraception will be folded into the overall cost of providing that coverage and will be borne by the religious institution and/or the insured employee (higher co-pays, higher deductibles, higher premiums, etc.).

This "compromise" is nothing of the sort.

9:19 am February 16, 2012

Charlie Manuel wrote:

This is what’s most alarming about the Obama-Mainstream Media Nexus, that the Washington Post, etc. haven’t called “BS” on this “compromise” which is 100% Alice in Wonderland logical. If a religious institution offers health insurance to its employees, such insurance plan must cover free sterilization and contraception products and services. However, the religious institution will not have to “pay” for this coverage – such costs will be borne by the insurance carrier.

Huh? There is no insurance plan that I know of that charges its customers on the basis of each item covered by such insurance. The cost of insurance is based upon the aggregation of items covered by a policy and the risk profile of its customers. Thus, any added cost of providing coverage for sterilization and contraception will be folded into the overall cost of providing that coverage and will be borne by the religious institution and/or the insured employee (higher co-pays, higher deductibles, higher premiums, etc.).

This “compromise” is nothing of the sort.

9:21 am February 16, 2012

Ariel wrote:

Why should she? All these leftists think they know better than those over whom they rule - and they act like it.

9:22 am February 16, 2012

Jimmy Lighthorse wrote:

Who cares what she says. Ignore that crazy witch. I'm not paying for her garbage, and I can guarantee she can't make me. Don't people get it that this Regime hates Christians? Hey all you Latinos, Obama is using you, he laughs at you, how many of you Latinos are Catholic? HUMMMM?

9:23 am February 16, 2012

Excomunicated again again? wrote:

Sebelius, a pro-choice rights advocate, has been endorsed by Planned Parenthood and they have conducted fundraising activity on her behalf.[68] Sebelius is a member of the Catholic Church; in early March 2009, Archbishop Raymond F. Burke, prefect for the Apostolic Signatura, the Holy See's highest court, declared that Sebelius should not approach the altar for Communion in the United States, and he noted that, "after pastoral admonition, she obstinately persists in serious sin"[69] In 2003, 2005, 2006, and again in 2008, Sebelius vetoed legislation that would have limited abortions in Kansas.
On April 21, 2008, Sebelius vetoed House Substitute for Senate Bill 389, titled the Comprehensive Abortion Reform Act by its sponsors. Proponents of the bill argued the legislation would strengthen late-term abortion laws and prevent so-called "coerced abortions," particularly with respect to minors. The Kansas City Star reported that HS SB 389 would have required the State of Kansas to collect patient diagnostic information providing detailed medical justification for late-term abortions, and would have also permitted litigants to sue abortion providers if they thought that a relative of theirs was planning a late-term abortion in violation of Kansas law.[70] Sebelius objected to the constitutionality, efficacy and morality of the proposed legislation. She wrote, "The United States Supreme Court decisions make clear that any law regulating abortion must contain exceptions for pregnancies which endanger the woman's life or health. However, SB 389 allows a variety of individuals to seek a court order preventing a woman from obtaining an abortion, even where it may be necessary to save her life. I am concerned that the bill is unconstitutional or even worse, endangers the lives of women." In addition, she expressed concern that the bill would "likely encourage extensive litigation" and that it "unnecessarily jeopardizes the privacy of Kansas women's confidential medical records."[66]
Kansas City Archbishop Joseph Fred Naumann asked that Sebelius no longer receive Holy Communion because of her position on abortion. Naumann criticized Sebelius for vetoing HS SB 389.[71] The action received mixed reviews in the Catholic press.[72][73][74]

9:23 am February 16, 2012

Gary wrote:

The Government shouldn't consult with the Catholic church before imposing legal obligations on its institutions that directly contradict the church's core beliefs? You need to think harder about this.

9:24 am February 16, 2012

satch wrote:

Why should she consult with the Catholic Bishops? She's watched the Obama Administration step on peoples rights for the passed three and half years and figured the Bishops would just fall in line like everyone else so far. I'm waiting for the next shoe to drop when the MSM and the Administration start calling the Bishops Religious fanatics.

9:25 am February 16, 2012

Ariel wrote:

Policy-making ought to involve all the stakeholders. It makes no difference who those stakeholders are; whether they're farmers, educators, etc. In this case, those directly affected are religious organizations. That's no reason they should NOT be consulted about a policy change that affects them directly. To, all you folks who think you're taking the First Amendment high ground - it's intended to protect the church from the encroachment of the state, NOT the other way around - otherwise it's a license to oppress religion.

9:27 am February 16, 2012

Diane in Michigan wrote:

this argument is not about contraceptives - it's about religious and ideological freedom. It's also about entitlement and what IS a right.... does the constitution delineate 'health' as a right? doe 'health' include contraception? Health insurance in concept originated as a means of covering catastrophic costs for complicated or long term illness or treatments. The regular doctor visits, et al were not included. Union contracts changed that and now ObamaCare has redefined even that. Now people are upset if a regular doctor visit and standard shots or other treatments are not included. Contraception is optional. It is not required for the general health and well-being of an individual. Cialis, et al is optional - not required for the general health and well-being of an individual. Plastic surgery is optional - not required for the general health and well-being of an individual. The basic health policies should not cover these types of things - if someone wants to add them, let those people pay additional out of their own pockets to add them to the policy.

9:32 am February 16, 2012

Stephen wrote:

It appears that the biggest problem w/ this administration is that the only people they ever consult are certified "yes" men. Effective leaders always make use of at least one devil's advocate to tryand avoid unintended conssequences.

9:33 am February 16, 2012

retired military wrote:

Of course they didnt consult the Bishops. They dont care about the Catholic Church. All hail those who pray at the abortion altar. The Catholic Church partly brought this on itself due to the mixed message it sends when it doesnt excommunicate people like Pelosi, Biden, Kennedy and Kerry.

9:34 am February 16, 2012

Carl wrote:

Fundamentally, this entire issue is about our 1st Amendment right to freedom of religion. Obama believes he can dictate whatever he wants because, after all, he "won" the 2008 election. His ploy of offering that the Catholic institutions don't have to pay for abortion services, but the insurance institutions will still have to provide the services "for free" is absolute babble and he knows it. The insurance institutions will simply pass the cost on to all customers, in effect making us all pay for these services, regardless of our religions or moral convictions. Like it or not, if you buy health insurance (and according to Obama, we all must), you must pay for the cost of abortions, whether you personnaly use the service or not. You know what Dear Leader? I have a religious conviction that prohibits me from complying with your dictate. Instead, I will be happy to switch to any insurer who will not offer services contrary to my religion.

9:35 am February 16, 2012

Jean wrote:

To Support family planning (11:10 pm February 15, 2012):

In a June 2011 New York Times editorial, "When States Punish Women," someone wrote "a small percentage of [Planned Parenthood's] work involves providing abortion care." Trying to find out what percentage of PP's expenditures go to abortions, I found a variation of the claim repeated in The Weekly Standard on Feb. 6, 2012: "Only a small percentage of Planned Parenthood’s expenditures go toward abortion services" -- the quotation having been taken from a New York Times article published Feb. 1, 2012.

PP's recent annual reports show "services provided" by count, not by expenditure. The 2010 count included 4,179,053 STI/STD tests, 1,461,816 emergency contraception kits, and 329,445 abortion procedures. Given how much an abortion costs, could that possibly account for only a small percentage of its expenditures? Possibly. But not that likely, looking at the other services provided.

A 2008 report showed 67% of PP's expenditures going towards "medical services" but gave no further breakdown. More recent annual reports I've found show neither revenues nor expenses.

About 1/3 of PP's revenues of >$1,000,000,000 a year come from taxpayers. Since it's a non-profit organization, shouldn't it be easy to find out how much of its "medical services" expenditures are spent on abortion procedures? (Don't bother going to factcheck.org to find out anything -- FactCheck seems to be aiding PP in an effort to avoid divulging where PP's money comes from or where it's spent.)

9:37 am February 16, 2012

Beircheart wrote:

Of course the Bishops weren't consulted. Their beliefs are contrary to the administration's and therefor are naturally inferior and irrelevant. In this it is a situation no different than that of the American people as a whole. This administration knows better than all of us what is in our best interests so contradicting views are those of immature and incapable folk who need to be taken care of in spite of themselves.

The ARROGANCE of this administration makes me sick.

9:40 am February 16, 2012

jnsesq wrote:

"Sebelius Didn’t Consult Bishops on Contraception Deal"

This should be news to whom? Considering her unwavering support of the late-but-not-lamented partial birth abortion factory manager, George Tiller, why should she even be aware there is a Catholic Church, let alone care?

9:41 am February 16, 2012

Bumbaclaat wrote:

If Catholic-owned companies ( such as the hospitals and universities in question in this case ) are allowed to push their religious doctrine onto their employees, both Catholic and non-Catholic, then that would open the door to Muslim owned businesses pushing Sharia law on their employees.

9:43 am February 16, 2012

lobbs wrote:

What if God removed things from the 10 Commandments just because a majority of people were doing something? "Thou Shall Not Lie" is an example. Just about everyone has lied. I bet a poll of Catholics who have ever lied or do lie would show a result of 100%. The church still says we are not to lie. Polls don't dictate doctrine. So the media and the White House saying a percentage of Catholics have used birth control does not mean a thing. Faith does not change to accommodate the flow of the mob. It holds firm to a higher authority.
This is not a women's health issue. This is a 1st Amendment Right issue. They are trying to confuse the issue and act as if they are champions for women. Tell me where in the Constitution is says I have a right to have someone else pay for contraception? It doesn't. It does say I have freedom of religion.

9:43 am February 16, 2012

dude911 wrote:

What happened to equal protection...why is it that i am not allowed to follow my religious beliefs and refuse to provide contraception and abortion benefits to my employees...yet...the church...any any institution that can claim that it is a church...is exempt?

9:43 am February 16, 2012

towtrk wrote:

Any business pushing Sharia law would fail in a free market

9:45 am February 16, 2012

Matt wrote:

@Bumbaclaat - They do.

9:45 am February 16, 2012

I don't have much use wrote:

for people who fail to grasp the difference between bishops who must uphold Church doctrine and Church members who knowingly violate the Church's fundamental tenets regarding the sanctity of human life: Human life begins at conception in the mother’s womb. That makes abortion a mortal sin. Nor do I have much use for Church members who commit mortal sins yet remain in the Church.

Apparently, using contraceptives can be either a mortal sin or a venial sin, depending on the user's knowledge of the sin.

9:48 am February 16, 2012

Richard L. Schaefer wrote:

CNN reported today, Thursday, that seven states are considering legislation to allow people to refuse certain immunization shots. Perhaps they are also allowed legally to enact legislation to allow religions and churches even greater distance from insurance payments to support contraception, abortifacient pills, and sterlization. Note that grounds for refusal by the religions actually often has a stronger constitutional basis--First Amendment rights--than some of the reasons given by some people for opposing immunizations. Note that Jenny McCarthy, Deirdre Imus, and Robert Kennedy, Jr., based their opposition to immunization shots regarding measles on junk science that has since also been proved to be junk science. Their opposition based on science is not constitutionally protected, not to mention junk science. And bad effects from spreading measles (and otherr diseases for which people refuse immunizations) in the form of the disease spreading are more immediate and more harmful, if not fatal, than most putative effects from not having insurance coverage for the items demanded of religious institutions by the administration, not to mention the fact that clients can get those treatments easily independent of whether the religious institutions cover those treatments in some way with insurance that they in some way provide or oversee. With the immunizations, the direct issue is the shots and the effects of the lack of shots; in the insurance coverage case health and disease is not the direct issue, but rather who pays for certain coverage--coverage that might not even end up paying for the covered treatments because the person never uses those treatments.

9:48 am February 16, 2012

Land of the Not So Free Anymore wrote:

Everyone is concentrating on whether the Catholic Church can be forced to provide contraception to their employees, but there is a much larger point here.

WHY is Sebelius able to dictate what a health care policy must cover? WHAT gives Obama the right to tell every health care insurance company in the United States that they must give away contraceptives for free? WHY is Sebelius allowed to exempt one company from the health care law while telling another they are not exempt? WHAT will be dictated next? No cancer treatments for smokers? No heart treatments for the obese? No health care coverage for those with poor exercise and/or diet habits? No coverage for child birth after 1 child? Or how about forcing doctors to offer the old a pain pill rather than providing them costly treatment? After all, doesn't the government now have a stake in both the cost and health and well being of the US population? Since WHEN did the power to make law and regulate get transferred from Congress to the Executive Branch... or to one appointed official? Open your eyes... this is just the opening salvo of what this health care bill has done to America! EVERYONE should be scared!

To the Democrats out there that will think I'm a nut job.., think about this... what happens when a Republican President appoints a Pro-Life Secretary of Health and Human Services hmmm? Will you be so supportive of the ability of an unelected bureaucrat to erase YOUR health benefits with the stroke of a pen? This is why CONGRESS is given the authority to make law under the Constitution, and yet Congress is divesting their Constitutional powers and giving it to the Secretary of HHS, the EPA, the Labor Relations Board, etc, etc... who cannot be held accountable to the American people. This is MADNESS!

9:50 am February 16, 2012

Calypso wrote:

Bumbaclaat wrote :
.If Catholic-owned companies ( such as the hospitals and universities in question in this case ) are allowed to push their religious doctrine onto their employees, both Catholic and non-Catholic, then that would open the door to Muslim owned businesses pushing Sharia law on their employees.
_____________

That is a non-sequitur. Contraception is widely available and cheap. I am a woman who has used contraception for years and I know. The notion that a woman's right to purchase contraception is being taken away is absurd. Frankly, asking contraception to be provided for free by anyone (including insurance companies) is ridiculous. Nothing is free. The cost will be passed onto anyone buying insurance, and the taxpayer, so that women can get the *feeling* that they are receiving something for free. It's an illusion.

9:51 am February 16, 2012

P. Off wrote:

P. Off

What counts for obama is not what's right or wrong ethically or morally, or what's legal under the Constitution; what counts for him is what gets him more votes in November. I think his bait and switch is deliberate -- and politically brilliant. The number of votes he's going to gain from manipulating the "free" contraceptives issue will be much, much greater than the number he'll lose from people who oppose contraception -- or inappropriate government subsidies -- or who grasp what religious freedom means.

What we're mostly dealing with is getting something for "free." That always trumps principles when it comes to politics. The alleged concern for women's health -- especially any altruism hogwash regarding poor women -- is a smokescreen. As Outlaw Josey Wales said, "Don't [micturate] down my back and tell me it's raining." (I used the word "smokescreen" long before Bob's post at # 7:19 am February 16, 2012. But I couldn't get what I had written to post when I tried earlier.)

9:52 am February 16, 2012

Dean from Ohio wrote:

"Sebelius Didn’t Consult Bishops on Contraception Deal"

Say it isn't so!

9:53 am February 16, 2012

Geocinat wrote:

This is the dumbest action of all by this administration. Making a religous group take up the cost for birth control! Even is the Insurance actually pay's it where do they get the money guys! open your eyes and think how can this decision be made without the option for outing religous groups and services? just stupid and fodder for another fight.

9:56 am February 16, 2012

Chuck wrote:

I think it is wonderful that President Obama is paying for every woman's pills out of his own pocket. What's that you say, he's using other peoples' money?

9:57 am February 16, 2012

michael ellis wrote:

Why doesn't she dye her eyebrows to compliment her gray hair?

10:00 am February 16, 2012

DChas wrote:

If her name was hyphenated like say Hillary's, It would be Kathleen-Gilligan Sebelius. Gilligan being her maiden name after her left wing father who was once Governor of Ohio.

These don't fall far from the trees.

10:00 am February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Too bad obama wasn't contracepted!!!

10:01 am February 16, 2012

J.Philip wrote:

What I don't understand is why didn't the WSJ call this move by Obama a shell game ? Anyone with a 8th grade education can see this. Obama and his Admin are the most arrogant corrupt lil pricks I have seen since the Carter days, and some of you out here remember what the mood of the Country was like when Carter gave Panama away and then sat on his hands while Iran destroyed our Embassy and took our people hostages.

Are you good people sick of Obama yet ? Your 401K is a 201K, you have lost 40% of your house value and 35% of your paycheck , gas has tripled and you can't afford a vacation, a new car or send your kid to college, and you dayyam sure can't afford to eat lobster and $80 a lb ribeye. Why is that ? Well, when Obama came into Office there were 17 Million on Welfare, now there are 49 Million on Welfare, someone had to pay for all those Democrat votes and it looks like it was us. Vote wisely come November because four more years of Obama and we are done. You think about it even as ugly as it is now Obama has had to be somewhat nice and compromising with another four year term he will take the gloves off and drive this country straight into bankruptcy then tyranny then declare himself Emperor and then rule us like China.

10:02 am February 16, 2012

Ellie.Light wrote:

HaHaHaHa. All this whining is losing the Tea Bag Republicands support. Even the majority of Catholics support this brilliant move. It is time to force this antiquated church into the 21st century.

10:04 am February 16, 2012

Flashprism wrote:

These are self adulating fascist in this Government. They care not about our constitution at All. These pin heads sit around thinking how superior they are morally and intellectually to us all and whatever comes into their minds must be right regardless of how it affects anyone else. Unfortunately I have associates who I have watched go through these thought processes.
Making the claim that this is about women’s health and women’s rights is BS. NO ONE is talking about stopping anyone from getting BIRTH CONTROL . The question is Can you make anyone do something against their will? Religious should not have to supply something against their Dogma. Insurance companies should not be made to give anything away and force those who disagree to pay for it.
The sad thing is I am concerned that there enough people who have been feeding at The Public trough that this trend of stealing from the haves and giving to the have not’s will continue. I don’t mean folks who lose their job and need a hand for a time, or a family that has some real form of financial distress like sickness or death.
I mean the perpetual losers who drop out of high school and are going nowhere, have food stamps as a continuous form of sustenance and pass it down to the next generation, drug users, Folks whose family convinced them they can’t make it so they expect those who take responsibility, go to school, work hard, Tell their children that life isn’t fair so make the best of it and have personal pride pay for their existence.
The values of those families who have made it in this wonderful country are now endangered.
Our nation is in grave danger and we are at a tipping point and I expect something will break over the next couple years if something does not change our current course.

10:07 am February 16, 2012

Dr. Scott wrote:

MEMO TO "ELLIE.LIGHT": My but what wonderful devotion you have to tradition, history, purpose and conviction of mind, soul and body. Turn around...I want to see if there really is a large key sticking out of your back with which to wind you up for you sure sound like a mechanical doll absolutely devoid of being a thinking-feeling-self-moving-actualized human being.

10:10 am February 16, 2012

doc holliday wrote:

So the Obama admin. want to give class 1 cancer causing birth control pills to women? Then the Obama admin. wants to kill Americans.

10:14 am February 16, 2012

SomeDude68 wrote:

The media and the white house keep saying birth control... when the fact is... these catholic hospitals WILL NOT perform abortions. Notice how they never say "abortion" in any of the media coverings of this NoBamaCare. Fact is the first amendment exists to protect the church's rights and autonomy. It does not exist to allow the state to mandate anything FOR the church. Abortions included. I hope the Pope SHUTS DOWN all church owned hospitals and clinics in the US before caving in. If the Pope is willing to go that far... God wins.

10:14 am February 16, 2012

armyman62 wrote:

Is it just me or does the Honorable Ms. Kathleen Sebilius look a little like a crack wh0r3 to you too?

10:17 am February 16, 2012

Vicky Bevis wrote:

What is "class 1 cancer causing....?"
(Retired nurse)

10:18 am February 16, 2012

lee1233 wrote:

Secretary of Health is obviously a lap dog for the administration. The President has made it abundantly clear that he has little respect for the Constitution. Review Title II, Section I, Clause V. Never properly vetted as to his qualifications to be a candidate. Fired President GM, gave large interest in GM to auto union, zero compensation to GM senior bond holders. Fellow Americans should not be surprised that this administration continually ignores our Constitution and actually resorts to dictating policy that violates individual freedoms. Remember Patrick Henry;"Give me liberty or give me death."

10:19 am February 16, 2012

armyman62 wrote:

eric wrote: "Isn’t that just basic common sense regardless of the issue?"

REALLY?!?!?!?!
Are you trying to accuse THIS administration of having ANY FORM of Common Sense?

10:21 am February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Von Sebe don't need talk to no one, man.

10:21 am February 16, 2012

Jeanne A wrote:

So you believe it's funny when the government tries to dictate to a religious organization. I wonder how you would feel if Planned Parenthood was told they HAD to immediately stop all abortions.

Atheists are quick to cry "separation of church and state"" when inflicting their views on the public, but the violation of the first amendment this president has mandated.. not a peep to be heard.
Such hypocracy!

10:26 am February 16, 2012

Tom Zarek wrote:

The Bishops continuing opposition to the Insurance companies providing contraception demonstrates this is not about protecting their right to matters of conscience, it never was, but is about forcing their backwards and antiquated views on women.

10:26 am February 16, 2012

Tom Zarek wrote:

The Bishops continuing opposition to the Insurance companies providing contraception demonstrates this is not about protecting their right to matters of conscience, it never was, but is about forcing their backwards and antiquated views on women.

10:26 am February 16, 2012

Tom Zarek wrote:

The Bishops continuing opposition to the Insurance companies providing contraception demonstrates this is not about protecting their right to matters of conscience, it never was, but is about forcing their backwards and antiquated views on women.

10:27 am February 16, 2012

Excommunicate Her wrote:

it is about time the pope did something to these immoral scum

10:27 am February 16, 2012

Sam wrote:

Everyone in this corrupt administration must be replaced on November 6th. VOTE!!!!!!

10:27 am February 16, 2012

KelpieJethro wrote:

Democrat politicians are totalitarian utopian statists who want us all to be their subjects to be ruled as they see fit. In other words, Nazi's or Communists.

Forget about all the name calling. Stop disecting every word this Bishop or that Bishop said. What is at the heart of this is freedom of religion. I think for the first time in our history we have a president who will tell the church it has to violate its core beliefs. We have a person in the White House who has no problem calling out supreme court justices dueing state of the union addresses. We have a president who gseems to gleefully trample on the rights of free men; he seems to relish it from a progressive end.

10:34 am February 16, 2012

Too much wrote:

Why only exempt religious institutions? All of us have our freedoms trampled in this bill.

10:35 am February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Ever hear of separation of church and state?
Should the cardinals and bishops be consulted on all laws? Just some?
How about sexual abuse laws? Get real!

10:35 am February 16, 2012

Jeff wrote:

And no one was surprised...

10:41 am February 16, 2012

The Great Gak wrote:

I hear the Satan worshippers have their shorts in a knot over this because they weren't consulted, either.

10:44 am February 16, 2012

Jan wrote:

I promise I am not trying to be obnoxious but, how could any woman with young boys still be a Catholic?

These very men allowed their sons to be raped and they covered it up for decades, and now they have the ... balls? ... to tell women they can't use birth control?????

Does anyone else see something really, really sick with Catholic mothers who still listen to these despicable men?

10:49 am February 16, 2012

Moochie wrote:

Bumbaclatt: So what if "66 percent" support this? Would 66 percent of Americans also government infringement of our right to worship freely? Because that would mean a change to the US Constitution. (Might I remind you that the 1st Amendment clearly states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . .") So, what you seem to be advocating is removal of our basic, Constitutional rights by majority rule. If that's the case, please ready yourself for a whole lot of civil disobedience. Besides, just because 66% want some service to be available doesn't mean the government should force it on us all, or force private corporations, like insurance companies, to provide that service, especially if the government mandating of that service goes directly against the Constitution. Rational thought, we hardly knew ye.

10:50 am February 16, 2012

Eddy in AZ wrote:

I have an idea, get all the US bishops and the priest at Biden's hometown parsih to write a letter directly to Biden telling him to get Obama to drop this requirement, no compromise, deal or whatever. Call Biden out on this, or tell him to get a new religion. And for Obama, will the republicans please get their act together and gang up on Obama and not on each other!

10:51 am February 16, 2012

JOHN wrote:

HOW ABOUT PAYING FOR YOUR OWN CONTEACEPTION NOT US

10:52 am February 16, 2012

Hey, Zeus! wrote:

Stop and think: on any decision, would you consult with an individual or oranganization that professes a belief in an invisible super powerful being? That lives in the sky? And gave his message to the world as a talking burning bush?

10:52 am February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

It's a violation of freedom of religion, First Amendment people. Hate the Catholic Church but a least defend when religious freedom is attacked. Otherwise you look pretty bias like many of the people who left comments below.

10:52 am February 16, 2012

Pat wrote:

Thank you for your insightful analysis of a complex issue. You seem like a very open minded insightful person who cares very much for other people, especially those eith whom you differ. The Founding Fathers would be so proud.

10:55 am February 16, 2012

Lew wrote:

To "Jan"

Your bigoty and insensitivity are showing, making youirself your own best argument for the use of contraception, some decades too late, albeit.

10:55 am February 16, 2012

Leo in Houston wrote:

It's really simple. Abortion and Contraception are two forms of population control. Obamacare will be the third. Wake up sheeple I The anthill is getting bigger and our Government knows it. It really doesn't matter who the President is.

10:55 am February 16, 2012

Pat wrote:

Jan. Just curious, what do you sound like when you are trying to be obnoxious?

10:59 am February 16, 2012

Larry Null wrote:

Firstof all this is not the first Black President. His Mother was VERY WHITE. He could care less about the ROMAN Catholic church. Many in America are American Catholics. They believe in the pill and abortion. They believe it is ok to kill their unborn and then accuse Casey Anthoney of which she was found NOT guilty.

10:59 am February 16, 2012

beach bum wrote:

Why should she consult the Bishops.Althougha Catholic herself ,she doesn't have any reaso to,for she has a direct
line to The Almighty Obeyme. She is a disgrace to the Church , a denier of our constitution and her Hippocratic Oath.

11:01 am February 16, 2012

libsrblind wrote:

in response to "Jan"
If you are going to bring that into it, the muslim religion of islam has 100 times the sexual abuse on young boys and continues to do so even openly in the middle east. I am not catholic, but the fact of this matter is not what a few bad priests have done- the argument here is the federal gov't dictating that these religious institutions be forced to pay for birth control... or what our children are allowed to eat at school lunch....where does it stop? this is the land of the free, remember?

11:03 am February 16, 2012

Jake wrote:

Jan - you are being obnoxious. You seem to forget that those priests who misused their position and abused those children do not represent the vast majority of the priests in the Catholic Church. Jan, I am sure it is all right with you to rant against Christianity for is failings to properly supervise its leaders, but you probably see nothing wrong with, and probably support Planned Parenthood who facilitated the MURDER of over 1,000 children in 2011 and many of the over 50,000,000 unborn children who have been murdered through abortion since ROE v.WADE was decided by an unelected court. People like you are such hypocrits. Christians abhor the abuses of the priests not honor them by donating money to them. You will face a final judgement day and will be held accountable for your actions, support and abhorrent inaction to stop the slaughter of unborn children.

11:04 am February 16, 2012

sandiego1969 wrote:

So talks were held with Planned Parenthood and NARAL but not the religious group leading and protesting most clearly an attack on religious freedom in America. The man claiming to be the "president of all Americans" again takes sides calculated to gain reelection.

11:04 am February 16, 2012

Monkeyman wrote:

"President Barack Obama announced the deal Friday. The compromise requires religious employers like schools and charities to offer contraception in employee health plans but wouldn’t require them to pay for it, instead shifting the costs to health-insurance providers."

Who would then collect it from the Catholics when they pay their increased premiums that cover these expenses!

These despots never will stop until they are exposed for the traitors and the liars that they are. They truly are Cicero's enemy within, we are at war with reprobate communist who have infiltrated the political and bureaucratic monolithic towers of our society via the Education or should I say reeducation system known as the public school system.
The result of a 100 years of diversity propaganda, liberalism and anti American worms from foreign and domestic sources from the turn of the twentieth century inserting a virus into the body politic.

"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot
survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable,
for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves
amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through
all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the
traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his
victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the
baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a
nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the
pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no
longer resist. A murderer is less to fear. The traitor is the plague."

I find it really Unbelievable that sebelius, as well as too many members of this Administration, just decide to act without THOUGHTS of Cause and effect... Is this why we are in such a Disaster???

11:12 am February 16, 2012

paperpushermj wrote:

To bad they didn't ask her if forcing under Penalty of law a Privately Held Company to Provide Goods or Services at no Cost to their Customer ..........is found in the Capitalist System.

11:16 am February 16, 2012

It's not about religion or contraception. It's about politics wrote:

A CBS News/New York Times poll released Wednesday also suggests that most Americans, including Catholics, support the Obama administration's original birth control mandate.

Sixty-one per cent of those surveyed said they back federally mandated contraception coverage for employers with religious affiliations, while 31 per cent are opposed.

Among Catholics, the numbers are almost identical — 61 per cent in favour and 32 per cent against. Support is strong even among Catholics who go to church every week, perhaps unsurprising given a recent study that found 98 per cent of Catholic women have used birth control over the course of their lives.

What's even more disturbing for Republicans? Fifty per cent of those who identified themselves as party faithful back the mandate, compared to 44 per cent who are opposed.

Support was particularly strong among women of all demographics.

And that's why so many are perplexed by the Republican strategy on the issue, despite the insistence they've waged a battle to protect religious freedom.

Fifty-four per cent of the electorate in 2008's presidential election were women, and so a Republican campaign framed as one that would lead to limited access to birth control seems doomed to hurt them in November, even if it's launched under the nobler banner of protecting the rights of the religious.

11:20 am February 16, 2012

Bob Williams wrote:

It is not about approving or disapproving of birth control. It is the changing of the intent of the Constitution that I have problems with. Forcing people to adopt something? This is not American. I thought that the Secretaries of the United States were also charged with protecting and following the Constitution. When, pray tell, did this change?

11:22 am February 16, 2012

paperpushermj wrote:

Just curious:
Under Obamas edict are Privately Owned Insurance Companies under penalty of Law required to provide Medical Insurance to Catholic Run Institutions Such as Schools or Hospitals?
Are these Insurance Companies Allowed to take into Consideration these new Realities when pricing the Charge for Health Insurance to these Catholic Institutions?

11:22 am February 16, 2012

Len wrote:

Amazingly as much as the Fcat tat sebelius and Obama are going full trot to promote their agendas with little toughts s or Constututional knowledge, some Us Senators are QUacking right now about doing something to Russia over that Country's violations of Human Liberties as the same Quacks are working hard to take our away......Hypocrites seem to cross party lines after all.

11:24 am February 16, 2012

Demsvoteblindly wrote:

I wonder how many of the Bishops are rethinking all the support they gave Obamacare now? They were all for it till they found out what kind of system it really was going to be. Why do those that forced us onto this healthcare system not use it as well? When will Obama and the rest of those that voted to force us onto this system have to join it? Makes you wonder how its not good enough for them, but good enough for those that had no vote for the bill.

11:25 am February 16, 2012

rook106524 wrote:

She should be fired. No one in government should be dictating morality. They don't even understand the secular laws (the US Constitution) let alone those that are the preview of a higher authority. She is haughty and arrogant and should be dismissed. We deserve better.

11:28 am February 16, 2012

USA wrote:

How about consulting the US Constitution. That would be a good place to start.

11:28 am February 16, 2012

Nominate Rick Santorum wrote:

In a new approval rating poll, President Obama is back to 50% and climbing! This is the first time in more than 8 months that this has happened!
Here's what the polling director had to say about how people are viewing the "climate" of things:
"Does that mean it's morning in America? It is for Democrats - a solid majority of them now say things are going well in the country. But overall, six in ten still have a gloomy outlook about the state of the country. Optimism is on the rise among independent voters, with a notable increase among men as well, although a majority of both groups still think things are going poorly."
This does seem to be helping the President's rating, as he's up 3 points from last month — and 6 from November!

The controversial attempt by the republicans to raise religious freedom issues is also working against them.

Keep it up religious extremists. Reelect the President.

Oh, almost forgot, nominate your Santorum

11:28 am February 16, 2012

ProBiz Conservative wrote:

Ok - if the Catholic church is self insured and Obama "shifts" the costs to the healthcare providers, nothing changes...

11:29 am February 16, 2012

Dave wrote:

The Catholic Bishops should focus on eliminating child abuse. These same people supposedly concerned about women having access to birth control oversaw the coverup of horrific child abuse.

11:31 am February 16, 2012

SQ2U wrote:

Regarding comments below by "It's about politics".

Republicans are NOT trying to limit access to contraceptives.

The progressive left is trying to limit the freedom of American people in every way. They don't want freedom of the press, (how they talk about FOX news and talk radiio, and Media Matters attempts to destroy them), they don't want freedom of religion as seen in the Obamacare mandate, they don't even want freedom in food choices, as seen in North Carolina recently...
When they have us all screwed down tightly, they will take away our electricity, our cars and we will live like the north korean people.

They hope we are not talking to everyone about this...

11:33 am February 16, 2012

Media_Matters_tells_lies wrote:

Is Bumbaclaat another one of George Soros's paid ministers of disinformation on the payroll of Media Matters?

11:33 am February 16, 2012

Cathy wrote:

"Smoke and Mirrors" that's what Obama's administration is all about, and taxpaying Americans better pay attention because you're losing your "freedom" every day under Obama. You poor working shlubs out there.

11:40 am February 16, 2012

Bert wrote:

I find the approach interesting: a one-sided negotiation. This is just another case of "When we want your opinion, we will give it to you."

11:42 am February 16, 2012

Calypso wrote:

MarkJ wrote :
.Anonymous,

“Are they remotely aware of how eroded their “moral” authority is?”

Well if you’re going to take that line, why are you a Prog? After having murdered 100 million people, don’t you think the moral authority for socialism–especially the Marxian brand–is now a little “eroded” too? Betcha didn’t think of that, did ya? .

MarkJ,
Good question. Leftists are deeply amormal people. They twist reality and create confusion in order to push their totalitarian plans. You see, they don't really care about liberity, they only care about controlling and eliminating (when necessary) anyone who disagrees with them. And Liberals are dumbarses who buy all the excrement spewed by these Leftists. My concern is that this country is becoming over-run by Leftists and Liberals.

11:43 am February 16, 2012

Len wrote:

So Sebelius does not consult DOJ, inresting issue since Holder takes directions from Obama, She consults with Naral and Planned Parenthood but ignores the Constitution and Misspeaks about the "revised Obama" plan which is NO plan.... May be it is time for a CIVILIAN Bureu to oversee our Elecvted and Appointed so called Leaders....Time to hold them accountable and force them to tell the TRUTH????
Just as Hypocritical as Sebelius is that some Quacking Senators are talking on the Senate floor about possible actions against Russia over their lack of Individuals freedoms as they are Constatntly taking our away.....

11:48 am February 16, 2012

patrickjames wrote:

she is lucky that Dolan is not oconnor or the country would be in locak down. oconnor would have closed every catholic institution and watch her crawl.

11:51 am February 16, 2012

chicago860 wrote:

We're from the government. We're here to help you. Yeah. Right.

11:52 am February 16, 2012

Domari Nolo wrote:

Guns, religion and a four year old's sack lunch. Had enough of this yet?

11:57 am February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

These sickle are not gonna stop until every last freedom we have is gone.

11:59 am February 16, 2012

Dems vs. the People wrote:

Why should he discuss a compromise with anyone else? He know what's best and so he can represent both sides and just "decide" what's right.

12:03 pm February 16, 2012

WilliamPenn wrote:

Obama is a 3rd generation communist, mentored and surrounded by Party faithful. Do you think he gives a damn about religion?

12:06 pm February 16, 2012

Tim Crowley wrote:

Good! We should not be consulting with "bishops" before we make our rules and laws. Seems like the "bishops" should be getting their own house in order. This is America. We are not Governed by Bishops.

12:06 pm February 16, 2012

Mauricio Villablanca wrote:

Of course she didn't. Neither did she bother to read the Constitution. For Obama and his pals, it's just an inconvenience. No big deal.

12:08 pm February 16, 2012

Christine Craft wrote:

She sure as heck shouldn't be consulting any bishops about public health policy..Besides, aren't they too busy covering about thousands upon thousands of priestly molestation situations? The Roman Catholic Church has utterly no moral high ground these days..or hadn't you noticed? And one more thing..all these ostensibly RC men..including those running for office, if they denounce contraception, does that mean they never masturbate..also? you know..the every white sperm is sacred club?

12:09 pm February 16, 2012

Mike wrote:

Thank science she did not consult religious officials about crafting public health policy!

12:13 pm February 16, 2012

rmv wrote:

i think the bishops should excommunicate all families that have used birth control, forbid them from coming to church, receiving sacraments and donating any money. that would really show they mean what they say.

12:16 pm February 16, 2012

De Oppresso Liber wrote:

More importantly Sebsillius did not bother reading the first amendment, i.e, Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..... The latter part is the relevant section.

12:16 pm February 16, 2012

Marian wrote:

This woman's birth control was her face.

12:17 pm February 16, 2012

Judy wrote:

Why would she need to? She's God!

12:17 pm February 16, 2012

Luke wrote:

Did she or Obama consult the Constitution? This entire administration is a joke.
Scary part us we the people put them there.

12:19 pm February 16, 2012

stnly wrote:

B O and all his staff and Czars don't contact anyone to keep their commi ideas going.

12:19 pm February 16, 2012

Mauloa wrote:

It seems a large number of people believe religion and its basic doctrine can be altered by "polls" or what the "media" decides its agenda is. The last time I can think of this happening was when Moses went up on the mount and the Children of Israel "polled" for the "Golden Calf". Didn't work then and won't work now. One think I have learned in my 72 years is..."God will not be mocked". I AM NOT a Catholic just an "old timer" that remembers when our religious beliefs were sancrocanct, and we could hold to our personal religious beliefs. Obamacare misses the point on this issue. It isn't about contraception or abortion - it is about religious freedom. If that is allowed to go by the wayside - America is on its way to a very bad place. Hopefully, sanity will prevail, the courts will come through on the side of the Constitution, etc. If you vote for Obama in November and he wins - don't complain - your "freedom" that is important to you will be next!

12:20 pm February 16, 2012

Concerned Mom of 5 wrote:

Sibelius: Hey... I'm from the govt and I know far damn*d better than you what you want. Sit down and shut up. Ya gottaproblemwiddat?

12:20 pm February 16, 2012

Vic wrote:

Absolutely. And if pork rinds are found to have health benefits, we should force Muslim & Jewish owned establishments to carry and sell them. I'm sure there are lots of other great "public health policy" decisions coming soon, like which cancer treatments won't be covered by insurance, and more.

12:22 pm February 16, 2012

roscoj wrote:

What Senator Hatch was trying to get from the Secretary of HHS was, that they were so eager to consult all others except the Bishops !

12:22 pm February 16, 2012

scboy wrote:

I for one amall for preventing the birth of as many liberal spawn as possible. I would be OK with all

12:24 pm February 16, 2012

JustAGuy wrote:

I bet she consulted Planned Parenthood!

12:24 pm February 16, 2012

Joel wrote:

Yes. Very forgiving....

12:26 pm February 16, 2012

Desmond wrote:

When catholic bishops are female and are allowed to marry, then perhaps their input would be valid. Otherwise, they are just a bunch of hypocritical men who love to harbor child molesters in their midst. Their mantra, "Have more children so that we can abuse them."

12:27 pm February 16, 2012

Nancy O'Connell wrote:

You can sure bet that Obozo would have consulted with an Iman before he did anything against a muslim or Islam.
That is why we have to vote in Nov and take back the "WHITE MOSQUE"

12:29 pm February 16, 2012

Francesca wrote:

Another Mad Cow?

GREAT AIRPORT THEFT: when you bring a piece of meat, even smoked sausage in a heat-sealed package or canned meat, airport workers take them away from you and "throw them away".....The very same meats/sausages you may buy in any ethnic store in, e.g. N.Y. or Chicago.
Somehow I think those airport workers have free meats/saugages..
Mad cow Disease, but of who? ;)

12:29 pm February 16, 2012

Mike wrote:

The Catholic bishops need to excommunicate Sebelius and all the other liberals who hide behind their Catholicity for political gain. They need to try and regain some of their moral authority lost in the priest child abuse scandal. Kicking out those who are in positions of power in the government and support taking of human life in the womb and trampling on the teachings of the church, would go a long way towards reestablishing the bishops credibility. Lead in the right direction for a change.

12:29 pm February 16, 2012

Polyphemos wrote:

Is it just me, or is that woman the scrawniest, ugliest, nastiest piece of white trash, ever? I mean, besides being a dumb, fascist, age-bigot..?

12:31 pm February 16, 2012

mmilesll wrote:

This woman reminds me of Bill Clinton-both are con artist. I wouldn't trust either one of them with a dollar.

12:32 pm February 16, 2012

alt wrote:

This women needs health care so looks like she is half dead

12:33 pm February 16, 2012

Nutz Nvise wrote:

Think you've never seen true evil? Well, take another look at this monster. She is the definition.

12:33 pm February 16, 2012

smfic wrote:

Why should she? She's smarter than anyone else. The law gives her and her alone the authority hundreds of times to determine what is best for us.
Meh, so what that the law is unconstitutional on its face, and that its implementation is supposed to be on hold until all appeals and all questions on it are decided. Heck, they had to pass the darn thing because we could even see what was in it, and even then there's hundreds of statements that the "Secretary shall determine", the "Secretary may conclude", the "Secretary should" authorize whatever she desires.
Sit back and just eat your peas. Obama knows best.

12:34 pm February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Does Sebelius have something terminal????? she looks like she is sick

12:34 pm February 16, 2012

dws111 wrote:

Religious freedom to withhold medical treatment of a child? Religious freedom to execute an unfaithful spouse? Religious freedom to have multiple wives? Religious freedom to perform ceremonies with deadly snakes? Or is it just your religious freedom at everyone else's expense? While your at it, preventing the birth of "Liberal Spawn" means you favor abortion as well as invasive pre-natal procedures to determine someone's political stance? Bravo on such a "Cristian" mindset.

12:35 pm February 16, 2012

Bob wrote:

in response to Tim Crowley - no, we are not governed by Bishops or religious leaders of any faith. But we as Americans have rights to our freedom of religious expressions and beliefs. The health care take over and mandates are in direct conflict with their beliefs. You cannot mandate with government law to violate someone's religous beliefs.

12:37 pm February 16, 2012

Hermeneutica wrote:

Look.... get it in your notes. Morality is for the HUMAN RACE, not just a few religionites with funny hats. If you murder, steal, rape, you are subhuman , not human. Take a look at the genocidal murderers of history.... they WEREN"T HUMAN BEINGS. Get REAL! And subsidizing promiscuity that destroys our reproductive rates while the 3rd worlders who can't afford contraception have 2/3x the rates we have demonstrates this. '

If you want to destroy yourself with STDs , Hep C ((I watched someone die of it once, it's worse than AIDS) go right ahead, but I refuse to pay for it.... MORON!

12:42 pm February 16, 2012

MAHAKALA wrote:

Sebelius needs to be called in front of Congress and impeached.

12:43 pm February 16, 2012

John wrote:

This is not a Catholic issue; it is being marketed as a Catholic issue by Obama. Folks, this is a Constitutional issue that affects everyone. The law (obamacare) that allows for these mandates gives the President the power to do what he has vowed to do; bypass Congress to enact his vision of America. The unchecked power that exists in the law provides the path he seeks. This is what Nancy Pelosi was talking about when she said we needed to pass it in order to see what's in it. Once a President can mandate that a private company must provide anything for "free" based on the theory of basic health rights then what can be excluded? Food, housing, clothing all are necessary for a person to remain healthy. Insult the Bishops and the Church all you want; it won't matter or change the facts of the issue. To accept the framing of the issue as simply providing pills and condoms for women is to be blind to the big picture; the real issue. Our government will now have the power to do anything it wishes without the need to worry about that little paper called the Constitution. The law does not provide congressional oversight.

12:49 pm February 16, 2012

Ok, enough of that crazy commenting. Get over it, you lost. wrote:

Still commenting on this?
Come on people you are acting like obsessive compulsive haters.

Move on.

No one really cares, the situation is solved. Obama and the beautiful and smart Sebelius lady won.

Find another car to chase you crazy little dogs.

12:53 pm February 16, 2012

Bumbaclaat wrote:

A catholic run hospital is a business.. a catholic run university is a business

neither one is a church. churches are already exempted from this law.

and having a business impose its owners religious doctrine on its employees who may not be of the same religion as the business owners is not part of " our right to worship freely "

12:56 pm February 16, 2012

Of Course She Didn't She's Pro-Choice... wrote:

Once again the Obama Administration helping with the decay of American society, moral and values.

1:06 pm February 16, 2012

Jen Henderson wrote:

Sebelius is the devil. She might call herself a Catholic but there is nothing in her actiions or words that would indicate she is anything but a "demon"crat. Being a democrat is not a substitue for a religion, no matter what Obama or Sebelius say. She makes my skin crawl.

1:14 pm February 16, 2012

OlyBaldEagle wrote:

I guess she forgot what the definition of "assume" is: "...the making of an ass out of you and me."

1:15 pm February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

I think the marxist from L,A,, maxine waters, was referring to the hag sebelius when she said they are demons. It is a shame that sebelius, like so many democrats, wasn't aborted.

1:16 pm February 16, 2012

Unapologetic 100% American wrote:

Deal? Deal? You and your commie master can go to hell.

Freedom of religion. Freedom of markets. Freedom from interference in our affairs.

You and your socialist schemes have been failing for decades and now you propose to take over entire industries to cover for your failures? You propose to discard the limitations of federal power?

Not just "no", "hell no" Screw off. You, Pelosi, Obama, can all go straight to hell.

1:19 pm February 16, 2012

IGetItAlready wrote:

Why consult anyone when you've got a mandate to destroy the nation?

1:22 pm February 16, 2012

FloridaJoe55 wrote:

However, the government has no business telling private businesses what products and services they must offer or companies and institutions what benefits they must offer. If you don't like the benefits work for someone else. Government also has no authority to tell a religious institution how it will practice its teachings. If Pres Obama et al believed and followed the U.S. Constitution, consulting bishops wouldn't even be a discussion.

1:23 pm February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

Why do we even have a 'Health and Human Services"? Did the Founding Fathers ever mention the need for such a thing? What does it do, and why does it do it? Whatever the answer is, the result can only lead to more intrusion of the Government into the lives of American Citizens. Are these the people responsible for sending Government Agents into preschools to search their lunches for "nutrition" and plant the thought in children that Government can take better care of them then their Parents?
Even though the Nazis understood the importance of taking children from their parents, I don't think that even Joseph Goebbels thought of a trick this vile. Thank you Moochele Obama for breaking a new record. Who voted for YOU, by the way?

1:24 pm February 16, 2012

Compromising question wrote:

How can it be a compromise if one of the aggrieved parties is not even at the table. This is more a move to spin the news so that the Bishops look uncompromising. For other comments mentioning that this is a business, it is a business, a non-profit business, that is sponsored by a religious organization. This and many other religious organizations provide, and have provided, services to the needy for far longer (and far cheaper) than the government has ever been able to accomplish.

1:28 pm February 16, 2012

Cornelius wrote:

Control of healthcare, and the 1/7 of the economy that comes with it, is the key to remaking society into whatever the President wants it to be. Not just this President, but any President will now be able to use it as the thin edge of the wedge whenever he wants to bypass congrssional or judicial restraints. It's everyone's right to be for or against this new form of government. What is distressing is the number of people who think that this power will always be in the hands of a President they like and one who will do only what they want.

1:43 pm February 16, 2012

LOL wrote:

Find another car to chase you crazy little dogs.

(that's funny)

3:26 pm February 16, 2012

secondgen wrote:

Why is this person in such a high public office. She, and her judge husband, did not pay the correct tax on their 2005, 2006, 2007 tax returns. A governor and a judge too imcompetent to figure their taxes correctly or were trying to cut corners. Obama has a long list of these "tax cheats" in his administration. What a disgrace!!!

4:15 pm February 16, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

I would hit that...

4:22 pm February 16, 2012

Giggety wrote:

This administration is completely off their rocker and have so little respect for religion that it is frightening- what will they do when they stand before God whom they have trampled and scoffed at? They are lost- please pray for them as difficult as that may be.

5:33 pm February 16, 2012

Pete Pettywick wrote:

She is a disgrace, as is Obama. He is so focused on killing babies. I am so tired of hearing about "women's rights." What about human rights? If a woman wants to have an abortion, let her and the father of the baby pay for it themselves. Or else, don't get pregnant. Americans are tired of hearing about "a woman's right to chose." Funny, last I checked, it takes two to make a baby...so doesn't the father have a right? This won't end until women are held accountable -- perhaps if a woman aborts a baby without telling the father, he shoud sue her. You wanted equal rights... YOU GOTTA EM'! So pull out your own chair, open your own door and when the ship is sinking...you're on your own ladies! I would never, ever vote for Obama -- all he wants is the freedom to allow babies to be MURDERED and the tax payer or some insurance company to have to pay for it.

5:36 pm February 16, 2012

CindyLu wrote:

12:24 pm February 16, 2012
JustAGuy wrote :
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I bet she consulted Planned Parenthood

^ Of course she did! She has blood on her hands. Any woman who has abortions that are not victims of rape, incest or who do not do so for pure health reasons are disgusting.

5:36 pm February 16, 2012

GunsAndJesus wrote:

Of course she didn't talk to Catholic bishops. Why would she? Protecting the health of the citizenry is none of their business.

5:36 pm February 16, 2012

GunsAndJesus wrote:

Of course she didn't talk to Catholic bishops. Why would she? Protecting the health of the citizenry is none of their business.

5:39 pm February 16, 2012

GunsAndJesus wrote:

There is no question that this rule requiring contraception as a measure of preventive care is perfectly constitutional. See Employment Division, Department of Human Resources of Oregon v. Smith, 494 U.S. 872 (1990). Tea Partiers routinely think they defend the Constitution but they don't understand what they're talking about.

5:41 pm February 16, 2012

GunsAndJesus wrote:

But keep it up, Tea Partiers. Fight the "culture wars" that you fabricate. It will only help Obama come November.

5:45 pm February 16, 2012

GunsAndJesus wrote:

It was amusing when the Administration offered its "compromise" and the Bishops initially called it an "improvement." Because they were too ignorant to see that it was the same darn thing! Then, after a weekend of thinking about it, they realized they'd been duped and they went back to opposing sensible measures to protect women's health and reduce health care costs. "Reason" is the Catholic church's enemy. Has been for centuries.

6:19 pm February 16, 2012

The Obama Timeline author wrote:

16 Instapundit.com writes, “The Obama Administration says that churches who oppose contraception still have to pay for it. And then, when people object, suddenly the talk shifts from who pays for contraception to whether someone wants to ban it. It’s as if we passed a law requiring mosques to sell bacon and then, when people objected, responded by saying ‘What’s wrong with bacon? You’re trying to ban bacon!!!!”

6:23 pm February 16, 2012

Derek wrote:

Whether or not the Obama administration contacted the Catholic bishops about their accounting trick or syntactic games is a red herring. Far more important is the question of where the Constitution even authorizes this sort of far-reaching executive order. Mandating insurance coverage and/or health services are not part of the federal authority.

6:25 pm February 16, 2012

The Obama Timeline author wrote:

It is vote-buying, pure and simple. Obama is losing much of the youth vote he had in 2008, so he orders insurance companies to give them "free stuff" to buy a few million votes. He also gets the media to misrepresent the issue. It is about freedom, not contraceptives. If Obama can order health insurers to provide free abortion pills, he can order car insurers to provide free oil changes. Obama is counting on winning reelection with the stupid vote: those people who are too stupid to comprehend that insurance premiums will increase in order to pay for their freebies.

6:26 pm February 16, 2012

The Obama Timeline author wrote:

Kathleen "no fetus left alive" Sebelius is pure evil.

1:42 am February 17, 2012

IntelectOne wrote:

The 'Employees of any organization must be loyal and an asset, if they are not, the 'Employer' must fire them in order to maintain their 'Good Brand Name'.
Therefore, anybody whining and complaining that their insurance does not cover contraception Pills, when they knew this was the policy and made very clear before they got their job with the 'Employer'; is cause for dismissal. Since when did the 'Employee' tell their Employer what they can and what they cannot do. The Catholic Church and its affiliate Institutions should 'Fire', everyone in their employment, that is promoting and insisting that they 'Give- Up The Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Conscience Clause';. which is protected in the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America

9:40 am February 17, 2012

Susie from Philly wrote:

It continues to fascinate me that many conservative men are so unfamiliar with the lady bits and how they work. Otherwise, they'd already know that birth control pills are frequently prescribed for common medical problems like severe menstrual cramps, polycystic ovary syndrome and endometriosis. So what the "freedom" party is advocating that some women be denied treatment for medical conditions because some men wish to impose their far-from-universal religious beliefs on the rest of the population. This is what they describe as freedom of religion. How about you practicing your own religion and leaving everyone else "free" to practice theirs?

8:17 am February 18, 2012

Upstate wrote:

The important issue in the healthcare debate that isn't being talked about enough is the expansion of mandates that increases the cost of insurance for everyone. This contraception issue is just one more example. As a small business owner in NYS, the state has a whole litany of mandated coverages that must show up in every policy written in the state. This makes my health insurance premiums SOAR. I happen to employee women over child bearing age and one gentleman - why should I have to include maternity coverage and contraception? If I choose to provide a plan that doesn't pay for prescription drugs, why should the government be able to tell me I have to still pay for contraception? The idea that it will be provided FREE by insurance companies for any organizations highlights how this administration understands nothing having to do with insurance and how premiums are calculated. The risk is SHARED by all participants,, DUH!

8:34 am February 18, 2012

Anonymous wrote:

go forth and multiply

1:25 pm February 19, 2012

Jim wrote:

The totalitarian didn't consult her inferiors before dictating the mandate to them?

Stop the presses!

11:28 pm February 19, 2012

Ed in Phx wrote:

I agree with Upstate.
Insurance is supposed to protect the insured against a catastrophic loss.
If we cover everything, the price will go up.
Birth control is a lifestyle choice. Now pregnancy is a catastrophic illness that must be prevented? At what cost? Is birth control a prohibitive expense now?
Why? Who decides?
I firmly believe that this is a power grab and totally unconstitutional.
Regardless of my beliefs, it's going to be up to either the next adimiinstration or the Supreme Court to decide.
Thank God for separation of powers.

1:18 pm February 20, 2012

Joe wrote:

Health benefits should be considered as employee compensation, like wages, and thus, the Catholic Church is not really a party to the healthcare purchasing transaction. Viewed in this way, the “mandate” is actually discouraging an imposition by the Catholic Church on its non-Catholic employees. Employees who have earned healthcare benefits should be able to purchase whatever healthcare is practically available according to their own conscience and consistent with their healthcare plan. The Church does not need to assume the responsibility for the individual’s actions, nor does it need to assert authority over them.

2:54 pm February 22, 2012

Warren Spellman wrote:

This action by Emperor Tiberius Sibelius is the latest attack on religious in this country by Leftists. Now pregnancy is a catastrophic illness that must be prevented by the State, and the power of the State will crush all opposition At what cost? This action I firmly believe that this is a power grab and totally unconstitutional and all People of Good Will must fight this mandate, and fight this Administration that will use Power to enact its Will. God will help the Church in this battle.

3:08 pm February 22, 2012

American Girl wrote:

Nobody mentions that Muslims and Muslim employers are exempt from Obamacare. Do Muslims approve of contraception or abortion? We never hear anything on this issue from any Muslim except Obama himself. Is religious freedom now the exclusive right of Muslims?

11:47 pm February 23, 2012

Osamas Pajamas wrote:

I'm an atheist and I support the rights of contraception and abortion --- although, these days, pregnancy is very easy to avoid --- for few are they who can now plead ignorance of this subject.

I don't support OhBummer's attempt to force the provision of contraception and abortion products and services on any religious institution, however.

Their religion is protected by the same principle which protects my atheism.

Oh, and just for the record, I despise that lying bxstxrd in the White House --- and his blowhard gasbag spokeshole, Carney, who is so full of weasel shxt that it pops out of his mouth every time he opens it.

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