Did he do a gastric band or something. Maybe needs to loosen it a couple of notches. That is a huge transformation - maybe even dangerously so. Hope he's not seriously unwell and thats prompted him to do a farewell journey back to footy type of thing. Hopefully he's just read Pete Evans latest and has gone full Paleo.

Apparently he just cut out sugar, beer and bread. He's probably burning HEAPS of energy on his trail bike runs too. Still cuts me pretty deep to see him in that Sydney shirt. Shame he lives up there and isn't giving our boys a bit of kicking assistance.

"Understand that you are all custodians of the St Kilda Football Club...you are responsible for making the difficult decisions to make this Club great. Those decisions will not always be popular, for popular decisions are easily made - but those that will truly make us great are those that challenge us most." - Allan Jeans as told to Chris Pelchen 2012.

Didn't he say that St.Kilda would always be his true home at a function where a Spud broke down introducing him? I think this latest gig is based purely on geography and that he's managing Pridham's farm. A Sainter at heart and for life, methinks.

White Winmar wrote:Didn't he say that St.Kilda would always be his true home at a function where a Spud broke down introducing him? I think this latest gig is based purely on geography and that he's managing Pridham's farm. A Sainter at heart and for life, methinks.

White Winmar wrote:Didn't he say that St.Kilda would always be his true home at a function where a Spud broke down introducing him? I think this latest gig is based purely on geography and that he's managing Pridham's farm. A Sainter at heart and for life, methinks.

I reckon it depends on who he's talking to.

Listening to Spider on radio the other week and he was asked which club- and said the Saints and the kids are saints- But distinctly remembering him - buying Hawks jumpers for the family when he went there.

Whose behaviour? This is very very wrong and nothing personal at all but I think you're projecting.

Sounds too grim for my liking because it means your fate is cealed by your history, which it is not.

If you define yourself from your past then you can never change anything.

And from who's viewpoint or perspective anyway? History and memory are also very maleable.

You define yourself from what you do right NOW.

Plugger, Barry Hall etc etc. They did it.

Plugger has just gone through a transformation in a very short time. It can be done.

Like we know for example, that you will never never quote even though you have been requested to, multiple times. That's how a forum works because everyone is supposed to follow the rules. The forum would be unworkable otherwise. But for some reason you think the rules don't apply to you.

So yes, in your case past behaviour is the best predictor of future behaviour.

dragit wrote:Hawthorn must have been a rabble when they very nearly merged with Melbourne 20 odd years ago... they seem to have turned it around okay.

Exactly. And how far back do you go looking into the past? 1966? or when Everitt played? That was a players generation ago. Would Billings or Steele care? Doubtful.

Players felt the burden of our history and the expectation of supporters in both 09 and in 2010. Roo admitted as much.

You're right it shouldn't be a factor but it is and it doesn't help. That's why the team who cracks it will be legends. The 66 team are sick of it.

That's probably true to a degree, but while we can't change our history of poor results it's different to suggesting that our unprofessional culture and poor attitude to rehab in the past somehow carries over to our current group.

Either we have our rehab and leadership in a good place or we don't still don't, but it has nothing to do with Barry hall or Joel smiths experience.

dragit wrote:Hawthorn must have been a rabble when they very nearly merged with Melbourne 20 odd years ago... they seem to have turned it around okay.

Exactly. And how far back do you go looking into the past? 1966? or when Everitt played? That was a players generation ago. Would Billings or Steele care? Doubtful.

Players felt the burden of our history and the expectation of supporters in both 09 and in 2010. Roo admitted as much.

You're right it shouldn't be a factor but it is and it doesn't help. That's why the team who cracks it will be legends. The 66 team are sick of it.

That's probably true to a degree, but while we can't change our history of poor results it's different to suggesting that our unprofessional culture and poor attitude to rehab in the past somehow carries over to our current group.

Either we have our rehab and leadership in a good place or we don't still don't, but it has nothing to do with Barry hall or Joel smiths experience.