Baby’s lives matter: Journalist questions abortion after PP videos

Anyone surprised that many "anti-choice" folks here are also generally "anti-science"?

Anyone whose opinion on a Woman's Right to Choose has been altered by these fraudulent videos wasn't truly in favor of Choice to begin with.

Anyone who justifies "murder" (for those who claim "Abortion is murder.") because of certain circumstances (rape, incest, danger to woman) and damns
it in others is plainly hypocritical if not utterly dishonest.

What part of the anti-choice stance is proven by science? Life begins at conception? Nope. An embryo is a tiny person? Nope. A 16 week old fetus
feels pain? Nope. Real rape can't get a woman pregnant, 'cuz the body shuts down? Nope. There's never a good reason for an abortion? Nope.

Unsafe abortion is a significant cause of maternal mortality and morbidity in the world. Most unsafe abortions occur where abortion is
illegal,[3] or in developing countries where affordable well-trained medical practitioners are not readily available,[4][5] or where modern
contraceptives are unavailable.[6] About one in eight pregnancy-related deaths worldwide is associated with unsafe abortion.[7]

500 years ago leaches were standard treatment then 1800 how barbaric to modern research shows some places it like helps crushed appendages.

60s chiropractic medicine was a quakery now they are main stream.

In the 60s cigs were good and butter was bad eat margarine instead. Today cigs kill you butter is good and margarine is bad.

60s no life can live in the extreams like under antarctic ice or in the heat of deep sea hydrothermal vents double fail there life found in both
places.

Given the track record I will take it with a grain of salt.

I think political its better for PP and the researchers that Babies are nonhuman till they are born . Reducing a human to subhuman status makes it
easier to kill it unit 739 called people logs others reduced humans to they are just a low species of humans to justify experimentation or slavery
they are not really a human.

Touch a eagle egg get 5-10 in prison kill a baby sell the part gets you a Lamborghini .

Scientific 'Truth' is not only fluid...it's quite subjective.
Josef Mengele thought he was contributing to Science:

The spirit of Josef Mengele lives on

By Bob Rinearson for The News-Sentinel
Monday, August 10, 2015 - 12:05 pm

Dr. Josef Mengele was the Angel of Death.

During World War II, he was the physician assigned at the Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz. It was there he conducted his cruel and sadistic
experiments on young children, all for the purposes of proving Aryan superiority through heredity. Being an integral clog in Heinrich Himmler's SS,
Mengele would present himself as a grandfatherly figure to those children he would select, telling them stories and offering them sweets before he
butchered them mercilessly, often whistling as he worked.

Some of his procedures include injecting chemicals into the pupils of children with heterochromatic eyes (eyes of different colors). Mengele had a
fascination for twins, so he would experiment transfusing disease-tainted blood from one twin into another.

After the war, reports revealed that on one evening alone, the good doctor personally killed 14 sets of twins by injecting chloroform into their
hearts. He would perform surgical experiments on pregnant women without anesthesia before sending them to the gas chambers. During one experiment, he
had two twins conjoined by sewing their backs together, ultimately causing their death due to gangrene.

At the end of the war as the Allies converged on Germany, Dr. Mengele managed to escape to Argentina. Although authorities believed him dead, Mengele
was living quite well through the efforts of established associates and also making money performing abortions on South American women.

He eluded the Mossad up until the day he died in February 1979 due to drowning. Friends who had visited the old doctor in South America claimed he
remained unrepentant.

And why should he feel guilty? After all, he was a medical doctor. Everything he did was for the greater good of mankind. Little children died so
that others could have a better life.
But as we've seen, the spirit of Mengele lives on within the soul of Planned Parenthood.

Nazi monster Dr. Josef Mengele is known to have ordered the murder of over 400,000 Jews at Auschwitz from 1943 to 1945. Thousands more he kept alive
and mercilessly tortured to death during experiments intended to create an Aryan super-race.

Much of Mengele’s “medical research” was conducted on children and newborns – especially twins. One witness described what happened after
Mengele once delivered a Jewish “fetus”: “But when he saw that there was only one baby and not twins, he tore the baby right out of the
mother’s uterus, threw it into an oven and walked away,” she said. “We saw this.”

Cryin’ shame. Were he alive today and working for Planned Parenthood, Mengele’s abortion could have easily yielded an extra $300 for this
“intact specimen.” Sell baby’s body parts separately, and the profit margin goes up. That’s good money toward a Lamborghini.

Spoken like an expert moral relativist. This is the Creed of the relativist, that truth is fluid.

2+2 ALWAYS equals 4. Always. It doesn't matter how you feel, or what you believe otherwise. It always equals 4.

Don't like the truth, because it clashes with your lifestyle or worldview? Rather than objectively analyze truth, and change your mind, instead you
change the meaning of words, dehumanize the human, you change the truth. A classic relativist, and what's sad is you don't even realize it.

The pro-death crowd have been convinced that 2+2=5. I'm here to tell ya, you've been lied to.

Science is not "fluid." That idea is the antithesis of science. Science relies on provable repeatable evidence. You may try to equate science with
whatever beliefs (Neolithic or not) that you hold that inform you that a fertilized egg, an embryo, or even a pre-viable fetus is a "human being" when
that is obviously, patently and scientifically NOT TRUE.

This is the primary basis of referring to your expressed point-of-view (not YOU, I don't know "you" you don't know "me" so your attempt at subterfuge
is as meaningless as the silly summary you posted above) as ignorant.

Human bodies spontaneously abort 50% of fertilized eggs before a woman even knows she's pregnant. After that, between 15 to 20% are lost during the
first trimester. And even control zealots (like yourself, obviously) will say that there are "circumstances" in which abortion is acceptable,
understandable, or the best of bad options.

I say here repeatedly that you people are FAR MORE SCARY than anyone who is pro-Choice. We understand that fertilized eggs, embryos, and pre-viable
fetuses are NOT humans, but, you, you believe that your wisdom is great enough to allow you to discern when "murder" is appropriate and acceptable.

You control zealots have far more in common with Dr. Mengele than anyone in favor of Choice.

Leeches actually have the same blood-thinning properties in their saliva as those found in manufactured medicines like Aspirin and Coumadin, says Nick
Angeles, MSN, CRNA, author of How to Succeed in Anesthesia School (And RN, PA, or Med School). In fact, blood thinners made from leeches are often
used to treat patients allergic to other medication.

Recent studies have also indicated a benefit to using leeches for healing wounds following a surgery. The body can have difficulty draining blood from
tissues that are reattached through surgery, explains Angeles. The blood-thinning capability of leeches is useful in the prevention of clots in cases
like these.

Woah, the FDA even has "approved" leaches!

There are FDA-approved companies such as Ricarimpex SAS that manufacture and distribute leeches to medical facilities. But the use of leeches for
medical purposes is still being investigated, according to Nathan Wei, MD at the Arthritis Treatment Center. He advises consulting with your primary
physician if you are interested.

Science isn't a religion, as faith isn't required. Faith is placing one's belief and trust in the hands of the unknown. Science only asks one study
the available evidence and make logical conclusions and decisions. Just as atheism doesn't require faith.

Believing in nothing requires nothing. Unlike religious beliefs, scientists are willing to change their understanding based on new evidence. I don't
see many religious people changing their faith around when a new understanding of the universe and reality becomes available.

Spoken like an expert moral relativist. This is the Creed of the relativist, that truth is fluid.

2+2 ALWAYS equals 4. Always. It doesn't matter how you feel, or what you believe otherwise. It always equals 4.

Don't like the truth, because it clashes with your lifestyle or worldview? Rather than objectively analyze truth, and change your mind, instead you
change the meaning of words, dehumanize the human, you change the truth. A classic relativist, and what's sad is you don't even realize it.

The pro-death crowd have been convinced that 2+2=5. I'm here to tell ya, you've been lied to.

Did you have anything meaningful to add, or did you just want to evangelize about your mistaken ideas about me?

You haven't presented any "truth." Your "truth" doesn't make any rational or reasonable sense. Your "truth" is not supported by any scientific,
medical, or biological fact.

Your "truth" is whatever you want it to be. You keep blathering on about "abortion is murder" as if you're the Spokesman for God Almighty dispensing
wisdom. You're not.

The Bible itself refers to abortion in Numbers 5:11-31.

Not to mention that the god of the Bible (YHVH) commands that babies (and these are real living breathing babies, not assemblages of cells) have their
heads "dashed upon the rocks" at His command. Psalms 137:9 (and sadly many other similar verses.)

The Talmud states ""if a woman travails to give birth [and it is feared she may die], one may sever the fetus from her womb and extract it, member by
member, for her life takes precedence over his" (Oho. 7:6)." Link

So, no scientific basis and no religious basis. What does that leave you with?

Your own personal zealotry to control women's bodies and enforce your beliefs on others.

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