Vodka Zombie:Just more proof that the only thing religion does is destroy people and communities by taking away their basic human decency.

Not really. Certain types of people are attracted to religion - these types have no decency in the first place, and are basically psychopaths.

I'm not saying that all religious people are like that, but religion tends to be a magnet for them.

Other magnets for these types are extreme politics of any flavor (note the current state of the Republican party), police force, military, school teaching, media (Rush Limbaugh is a good example) and business. Basically any organization that gives them the opportunity to have power over others.

Hand Banana:9beers: FlashHarry: and people wonder why atheism is on the rise.

I'm an Atheist and not a huge fan of gays, what's your point?

I believe his point was that religion indoctrinates people into thinking that "teh gay" is evil and that is where the majority of the problem comes from. As for why your a homophobe who can say, maybe you're just insecure.

I'm not a huge fan of Republicans. That doesn't necessarily mean I am worried that you'll think I'm a Republican.

bubbaprog:truthseeker2083: As a gay man, I don't care if he's fired or not. He can say what he likes.

You realize he's actively working in support of laws that make it legal for gay people to be discriminated against, right? These aren't just "words."

Yes, I understand that. It's not right, but he has every right to be a bigoted f*ck wad all he wants. I just know the tide is turning, people who support him and those like him are dying out, and If we can fight for a while longer we will win.

What's sad, is if I was older, my beliefs would have led me to fight for his rights, but he wants to hold mine back...

No, no one should have to put up with any of it. That's why the fight against bigots of all types and hatred is so important. There is nothing more sad than hating someone for who they love. To do so show a true lack of not only love, but even the very understanding of the concept of love.

Then why should it be any different when gays are the people he hates? It's an antiquated way of thinking and deserves to be systematically rooted out, just like we've rooted out other appalling opinions.

And spare me the "political correctness" BS excuse. Hatred of entire classes of people has absolutely no place in a civilized and free society. Don't like it? Then go live in an uncivilized society without freedom. You'll fit right in. But if you stick around, you should expect to be treated like the piece of shiat you are.

Opinions are fine. Intolerance against a whole class of citizens going about their business lawfully, on the other hand, is the sort of behaviour I'd ascribe to the Taliban. Wondering what taliban you're referencing.

/Wonders what the coach would say about, say, the opinions of the KKK as these relate to his employment and right to live.

Omahawg:ChaoticLimbs: Over and over, it's been shown that having extreme hatred toward gays is indicative of repressed homosexual tendencies inside of a repressive cultural environment. It's kowa, and in iowa, when you're a bit gay, it turns to hatred for others. It's no wonder he chose a supermacho job surrounded by males at the peak of their physical development.

uh, you know we let gays marry here in Iowa, right? this is across the river, in the cursed land

Who knows how long that will last... The fundies are itching to get marriage on the ballot in the Hawkeye State...

/come to Illinois, home to civil unions and a much lower chance they'll ever be invalidated by popular vote.//marriages is next, just be patient

Paris1127:Omahawg: ChaoticLimbs: Over and over, it's been shown that having extreme hatred toward gays is indicative of repressed homosexual tendencies inside of a repressive cultural environment. It's kowa, and in iowa, when you're a bit gay, it turns to hatred for others. It's no wonder he chose a supermacho job surrounded by males at the peak of their physical development.

uh, you know we let gays marry here in Iowa, right? this is across the river, in the cursed land

Who knows how long that will last... The fundies are itching to get marriage on the ballot in the Hawkeye State...

/come to Illinois, home to civil unions and a much lower chance they'll ever be invalidated by popular vote.//marriages is next, just be patient

halfof33:Barbecue Bob: These asshats who say "Can't he have an opinion? First amendment mutha fukas!" are missing the point;You DO have freedom of speech. You have no freedom from repercussions of your speech.

Welcome to adult world.Now quit being ignorant.

Damn straight! Stupid free speech. We'll measure that by the content of course. Because that is what free speech means.

Which branch of the federal govt got involved in this and shut him down?

Opinions are fine. Intolerance against a whole class of citizens going about their business lawfully, on the other hand, is the sort of behaviour I'd ascribe to the Taliban. Wondering what taliban you're referencing.

/Wonders what the coach would say about, say, the opinions of the KKK as these relate to his employment and right to live.

Fark yes! Remember when the ACLU and their Jew lawyer took on the State of Illinois on behalf of the NAZIS? I bet they'd be proud.

Nebraska has always been a "Dittohead Deutschland". Dick Cheney was born in Lincoln, NE., Enron started out in Omaha, Clarence Thomas has family there, and an editorial in the Omaha World Herald was used as a convincing article that helped sway the Supreme Court in ruling in Bush's favor after the 2000 recount crisis. Former Coach Bob Devaney used to appear in "Real Men Don't Use Porn" billboards.

No shock that a coach for the Nebraska Cornholers would be a homophobe.

steamingpile:Agnosticism is really on the rise, atheism is kind of arrogant thinking you know for sure god doesn't exist.

The two are not mutually exclusive.

Do I believe god exists? No, therefore I'm an atheist.

Do I claim to know for whether god exists? No, therefore I'm an agnostic.

I don't believe in ghosts, either, but I'm not claiming I can prove ghosts don't exist.

Leprechauns, bigfoot, nessie, ESP, tarot cards, crystal balls - their are a ton of things that I don't believe in, but that doesn't mean I'm claiming to know that these things are false. I simply have no reason to believe in that they are true. Show me some evidence, I'll change my mind.

Opinions are fine. Intolerance against a whole class of citizens going about their business lawfully, on the other hand, is the sort of behaviour I'd ascribe to the Taliban. Wondering what taliban you're referencing.

/Wonders what the coach would say about, say, the opinions of the KKK as these relate to his employment and right to live.

First off, the KKK has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS AND YOU KNOW IT. So just farking stop.

Second off, given the amount of Christian intolerance on fark, this is the sort of behavior I'd ascribe to the Taliban. A coach testified last month and now you want him fired.

halfof33:truthseeker2083: Which branch of the federal govt got involved in this and shut him down?

The First Amendment only applies to the Federal Government?

I'll be damned, lets string the guy up!

In the way you are trying to use it, yes. No one said he can't say it. He just can't say it and then provide his email address from the school or speak in a way that seems like its coming from the school. Freedom of speech is not freedom from reaping the consequenses. I hate the right wing crying when they are called out as the bigoted, small minded, numbskulls they are then crying persecution. When you fight for oppression and are called out on it, that doesn't make you the one being persecuted...

Paris1127:Omahawg: ChaoticLimbs: Over and over, it's been shown that having extreme hatred toward gays is indicative of repressed homosexual tendencies inside of a repressive cultural environment. It's kowa, and in iowa, when you're a bit gay, it turns to hatred for others. It's no wonder he chose a supermacho job surrounded by males at the peak of their physical development.

uh, you know we let gays marry here in Iowa, right? this is across the river, in the cursed land

Who knows how long that will last... The fundies are itching to get marriage on the ballot in the Hawkeye State...

/come to Illinois, home to civil unions and a much lower chance they'll ever be invalidated by popular vote.//marriages is next, just be patient

mawwiage?

one of the reasons why iowa was picked as a 'test state' is that it's a long and convoluted process to get anything on the ballot here. besides, let them put it up and try to pass it and watch the supreme court strike it down.

our 1857 constitution is pretty tolerant, from back when the proto-republicans were all progressive.

truthseeker2083:In the way you are trying to use it, yes. No one said he can't say it. He just can't say it and then provide his email address from the school or speak in a way that seems like its coming from the school. Freedom of speech is not freedom from reaping the consequenses. I hate the right wing crying when they are called out as the bigoted, small minded, numbskulls they are then crying persecution. When you fight for oppression and are called out on it, that doesn't make you the one being persecuted...

And I hate when people nibble away at Free Speech because the content is unpopular.

As I said earlier (not sure it's still there...) he can say what he wants, but his breed is dying. When the government comes in and hauls him off to jail, then it would be a free speech issue. Until then, it's an issue of a bigot going against his employer's anti-discrimination policy. I'm sure in that contract, he agreed to abide by it and I'm sure there is a clause stating that as a high-profile individual, he would remain in good standing with the community. Even if not, the anti-discrimination policy is hard to argue against.

halfof33:truthseeker2083: In the way you are trying to use it, yes. No one said he can't say it. He just can't say it and then provide his email address from the school or speak in a way that seems like its coming from the school. Freedom of speech is not freedom from reaping the consequenses. I hate the right wing crying when they are called out as the bigoted, small minded, numbskulls they are then crying persecution. When you fight for oppression and are called out on it, that doesn't make you the one being persecuted...

And I hate when people nibble away at Free Speech because the content is unpopular.

Please.

I'm not saying his ignorant-ass can't say it, i'm just saying as a leader in an EDUCATIONAL institution, he should show some class and education and tact or be fired.

halfof33:truthseeker2083: In the way you are trying to use it, yes. No one said he can't say it. He just can't say it and then provide his email address from the school or speak in a way that seems like its coming from the school. Freedom of speech is not freedom from reaping the consequenses. I hate the right wing crying when they are called out as the bigoted, small minded, numbskulls they are then crying persecution. When you fight for oppression and are called out on it, that doesn't make you the one being persecuted...

And I hate when people nibble away at Free Speech because the content is unpopular.

Not a free speech issue. He's not being censored, he just willingly jumped over his employer's policies regarding anti-discrimination. When he's hauled off or shut up for good by the govt, I'll be right there arguing for his free speech rights. Until then, that's not an issue.