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I’m interested in the lightest options, ideally with bug protection and 4-season worthiness, but I would also consider a hammock system that I would only use in summer. For comparisons to my miserable, lowly, ground-dwelling system (but very light), here are the weights:

As you can see, my shelter and sleep system come in under 3 pounds for most of the year, and just over 4 pounds even in the winter. How close to this can I get in a hammock? Many thanks for your ideas. Oh, BTW, I'm 225 lbs, so hammock system would have to deal with that.

or replace pad with maybe warmer for weight CCF. (espec in warmer temps when a very thin pad will do- no need for cushioning)

Or subtract Neo pad/ccf(12.4 + 5 oz) and replace with WB 3 season Yeti ( or whatever) to ~20F. (12.5 oz) continue to use 4 or 5 oz of CCF for legs when cold enough. (But, while you are at it, if replacing pad with UQ, go to single layer hammock to save a few more oz )

TQ/bag wts all the same, except you might get better TQ coverage in a hammock compared to ground.

So many ways to go. But with a need for hammock to handle 225 lbs, probably going to have to pick up at least a few oz even in summer time and dropping or replacing heavier pads for ground use.

I notice you mention Cuben in your ground wts. Use Cuben tarps ( and hammock? ) and reduce equiv hammock wts by quite a few more oz.

Last edited by BillyBob58; 04-18-2012 at 14:48.

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
Romans 8:18,21-22

I had not mentioned the GT Nano UL used in Sgt. Rock's 13 oz thread as I did not know if it was up to the 225 lb weight requirement. Now I see that- with it's single layer of 1.27 oz/sq.yd fabric, it is rated for and incredible 300 lbs. Even if that turns out to be really pushing it for long term use, that should still have no trouble with 225 lbs.

So, you can drop my first 18 oz recommendation (WL Night Owl No Net ) or the HH Explorer UL ( ~ 25 oz without tarp) down to about 7 oz. That is a major game changer assuming you would be comfortable in this hammock- I guess many are. Still, no double layer, so continuing to use your pads would be a challenge, and no net. There is always a 4 oz SPE if you can find or make one. Or of course as one suggestion from above.

So, 7 oz hammock + WB diamond tarp 7.5 oz= 14.5 oz. Compared to the 13.4 oz Hexamid. So now we are down to about 1 oz more but we lack a net. The sewn on net for my HH Explorer weighed about 3 oz, but if you are going to use a WL net, that will add about 7 oz or so. And of course we need a Cuben tarp to get the weight down even more, but we are awful darn close here. Or again, actually about 12 oz ahead with the hammock if the weather is warm enough that you know you will not need a pad, or at worst your 3-4 oz sit pad. Depends on where you are, but there are times of the year where I do not want any insulation what so ever under me- or on top. I am just desperate to stay cool enough. So in those conditions the weight advantage goes to the hammock. Unless you are tough enough to sleep on the ground with no pad, and maybe 1 out of a hundred of us fall into that category.

All just a bunch of ( though fun to consider ) theory for me, as I would not sacrifice being comfy in a hammock and being able to sleep over sloping/rocky/muddy ground and being off the ground during down pours for 1 or 2 lbs, much less a few oz. In fact, just to gain some possible comfort advantage, I will use much heavier hammocks than the GT UL. Like a 2+ lb dbl layer WBBB or a 37 oz JRB Bridge. If my total pack weights, with food and water, are between 15- 25 lbs, I'm good to go. I will sacrifice a pound or two if needed to really increase comfort and convenience. Still so much ahead of those 40-70 lb days!

For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us....that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now.
Romans 8:18,21-22