Comments on: John Carmack says PS4, Xbox 720 nothing to be excited abouthttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/
The Definitive Guide to Tech and CarsSat, 10 Dec 2016 03:31:00 +0000hourly1https://wordpress.org/?v=4.7By: BuddyNuggethttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-288546
Sun, 14 Apr 2013 14:16:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-288546Costs of games will not go up. In fact development costs on new consoles will go down. Games will be easier to develop and easier to bring to both consoles since both have similar pc like builds. That if anything would bring costs down. They will no longer have to essentially make two different games if they want to bring their game to both consoles. Im looking forward to next gen especially with new hardware being capable of running 1 trillion floating plot points per second. I umderstand what this guy is saying but I dont think his opinion matters much. If you want more in depth graphics, higher resolution, more detail, faster load times, and games capable of showing thousands of in game units at once than your going to want the new console. Its faster and better hands down. And in 5-6 years itll be even better just look how the 360 and ps3 evolved over their life cycle, amazing. I respect him but I take his comments with a grain of salt.
]]>By: urMOMhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-287804
Thu, 11 Apr 2013 14:48:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-287804Blue rays are 32 gb… 64gb total both sides nerd.
]]>By: Sparrowhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-275498
Sat, 23 Feb 2013 05:20:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-275498Your sexism is showing, dude.
]]>By: Victor Cruzhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-271875
Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:40:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-271875this guy for some one so smart he sound so stupid some time i mean this consoles cant even do 1080p at 60fps and you telling me theres nothing a ps4 or xbox720 can do how about 1080p native at 60fps if they can do that whit out a Hik up then they have done there job and thos games will look beasty
]]>By: Stevenhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-271817
Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:31:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-271817Out of all the games to say innovates the second least, you pick BF3? The NBA 2013, Madden, and FIFA series have been reusing gameplay, controls, and features for years. Don’t hate on BF3 just because you don’t notice the differences. I doubt you’ve even played it or seen reviews for it.
]]>By: Stevenhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-271813
Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:24:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-271813GT5 doesn’t have nearly as much AI as Halo and the part of the world loaded at any given moment is probably a lot less. Also, in Halo, the entire game world is being recorded to the hard drive constantly.
]]>By: John Collerhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-271714
Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:39:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-271714They have said it before, about a decade ago. The new hardware won’t necessarily mean increased development costs. Take Gears of War for example, where they have to render every variation for shading depending on what order big buildings get blown up; the next generation hardware will be able to calculate shading in real time. Models have a lower polygon count as they get further away, but they require a lot of work to remain looking realistic; with increased polygons it will require less work and might be more automated.
]]>By: Westonhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-271540
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:44:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-271540Such vulgar language from woman with a picture of her baby as her avatar
]]>By: Westonhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-271537
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:42:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-271537? what ? Did you accidentally smoke baby powder instead of crack again?
]]>By: Westonhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-271536
Wed, 06 Feb 2013 21:40:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-271536Well said Isaiah
]]>By: FFaaelhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-270865
Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:49:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-270865Are you dumb? The point is that the development cost is the limiting factor. You get better games with better development tool, not better hardware…
]]>By: GranTurismoPlayerhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-270616
Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:23:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-270616Oh and another thing is RAM. The current generation has a huge lack of it which has been it’s biggest bottleneck. The PS3 only has 512 MB total RAM and the PS4 is rumored to have 8 or 16 GB RAM which will be a vast and noticeable improvement.
]]>By: GranTurismoPlayerhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-270615
Sat, 02 Feb 2013 07:20:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-270615“If you take a current game like Halo which is a 30 hertz game at 720p; if you run that at 1080p, 60 frames with high dynamic frame buffers, all of a sudden you’ve sucked up all the power you have in the next-generation. It will be what we already have, but a lot better.”

This guy obviously doesn’t kow what he’s talking about. Gran Turismo 5 already runs at 1080p and 60 frames per second with current generation hardware. There are even tech demos of GT5 running at TWICE that resolution. Next generation game systems should have this power and more. The only thing that might hold it back is the lack of higher resolution tvs and monitors.

]]>By: s3xY Jhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-267826
Fri, 18 Jan 2013 19:41:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-267826I feel like you guys are all fighting about the same thing over and over.

Its simple:

1. the dude is a HUGE part of most engines out there, so yes he knows his stuff.
2. yes, RAGE did suck but this doesnt make him any less of a genius, it just makes him a noob designer.
3. He is burned out on his creativity because he has been doing this for years.

You guys have to remember that it’s not just one guy running the “video game show”.

This might be it for consoles, but not for gaming. Microsoft has accepted it and introduced something as simple as the kinect. They understand console tech will soon plateau.

I honestly believe that technology has slowed down alot. BUT it only takes one little technological breakthrough for us to be wearing head gear and playing FPS inside digital worlds. (like sword art online)

its obvious that technology feeds from ambition and optimism, and Carmack is running low on both.

Soon someone else will come along and introduce a completely radical and different approach to gaming and become the next “genius”.

A final attempt to dumb down HIS words: new consoles will make the graphics look almost, if not exactly like the theatrical trailers and cut scenes. (cryengine 3 has always had the power but the consoles haven’t been able to match it until now)

]]>By: Niggerniggerniggerhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-265268
Sat, 05 Jan 2013 21:44:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-265268Nigger shut the fuck up ass tablet
]]>By: firestarterhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-264882
Fri, 04 Jan 2013 14:56:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-264882For the record: diablo 3 is pus
]]>By: Owning a Shitbirdhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-256336
Thu, 22 Nov 2012 15:11:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-256336Yeah why don’t do you just do something else….loser.
]]>By: ishmaelhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-229110
Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:04:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-229110any vision a cdeveloper has can be represented on current hardware? bullshit. take a game like final fantasy 13 and look at the difference between the realtime and pre rendered cutscenes
]]>By: хулиганить Маседоhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-226773
Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:54:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-226773Lmfao, what did you say? I didn’t understand anything.
]]>By: хулиганить Маседоhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-226771
Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:39:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-226771Fuck off child.
]]>By: shitbirdhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-223322
Fri, 13 Jul 2012 01:49:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-223322Why don’t you get off the guy’s cock.
]]>By: Heather AndRobert Sauershttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-222967
Thu, 12 Jul 2012 00:41:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-222967Fack ya 3960x spanks all x6 LGA 2011 out speed you all
]]>By: Retributionhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-222292
Mon, 09 Jul 2012 02:31:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-222292all because the technology in the actual game system is better does not mean that the games will be 6-8 times bigger. you cant go bigger than disc can hold blu-ray can only go to 50 gigs of storage but since one side is usually taken up by the game art this means only 25 gigs are available. while this is alot we gotta think about how much more detail is going into it. so if we double or maybe triple texture in games since 1080p is our current resolution for next gen (hopefully) we will only get a max 4 times bigger in games. But honestly it will take alot to even engineer something that big for that long of a game. it would take years to actual get a game that would do that. It would be exciting to have games that big but dont get hopes up for it. Also im sorry if you think of me as an ass i tend to feel this way about writing replies do to the nonexistent relationship we have as friends or the lack of you wanting to be told things by strangers.
]]>By: Miihttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-220840
Mon, 02 Jul 2012 05:00:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-220840Dude, Technology from the 1960’s haven’t been released from the U.S. Secret military base known as “Area 51”. I’m not joking, it’s a proven fact.
]]>By: sonicbazhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-220111
Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:30:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-220111John Carmack is at heart an engineer and game developer. The tech 5 engine represented the best approach to deal with the realities of modern game design ie deployment on to multiple consoles at higher framerates.

If you listen to any of his talks he quite clearly states that the order of magnitude for game developers cannot continue. The development cost for new technology is taking longer and more costly.

Tech 5 allows you to stream in all your textures, this means that for example if the hardware has the memory and graphics throughput you can have full HD quality game @ 60 hz (maybe better implementation of drivers).

So John Carmack has actually solved the problem for the next generation console and PC and likely the next 10 years. He’s not in talking in the present he’s looking into the future and saying ok lets assume you have unlimted resources, unlimited hardware, unlimted triangles, how different will that look. Well it will probably look very similar to now with HD textures and 60fps. I think this is a bit sad in a way. This sort of means that the gaming renaissance will not continue if it locked in trajectory with that of graphics hardware.

The way for all gamers to keep the industry healthy is to support new technology when released. Support games that offer more than COD of BF3 gameplay. Reward innovation with sales, lets be careful we don’t end up with just a narrow selection of choice.

]]>By: Abd Qudhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-219751
Wed, 27 Jun 2012 14:57:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-219751what the fuck what about fucken awsome graphics we need future games in real time playing fuck off old man old generation shit for u for us nah
]]>By: Jeff Mhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-219589
Tue, 26 Jun 2012 21:53:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-219589There has been devs confirming price of games will be exactly the same as they are now.
]]>By: DevilBelowhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-219555
Tue, 26 Jun 2012 20:09:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-219555Carmack’s a dinosaur! Just trying to prove he’s still relevant. I’ll tell you what I’m not excited about, his next game!
]]>By: jmmhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-218977
Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:45:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-218977You bought an ivybridge yuck…. they run hott and barely perform Bette than sandy. You can see reviews after achieving Max oc on 2700k and 3770k the 2700 oc lot higher and achieve the same if not better scores than the 3770k. I woulda bought a 2700k and oced it or waited for haswell due in the first half of 2013. Ivy bridge is a fail hyped up CPU.
]]>By: jmmhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-218976
Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:40:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-218976Crysis 3 is using cryengine 3 man. And I agree with you to an extent consoles are hurting PC gaming but not killed it. What about battlefield 3 Diablo 3 starcraft 2 and many more awesome PC titles. You are over exaggerating things.
]]>By: Aloan Moreirahttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-218963
Sat, 23 Jun 2012 05:41:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-218963All I want is Way more poligons, heck, bring unlimited detail, make it look like avatar at least! then up with amazing physics and realistic in game animations, bring ray tracing and I’m sold! I don’t care to spend 1000 dollars on an amazing console and 100 a game
]]>By: Isaiah Gillilandhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-218960
Sat, 23 Jun 2012 04:39:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-218960Are you people serious? This man is a visionary who’s been in the industry for decades and knows way more about the subject than any of us! While learning game programming I studied his techniques. The man is a genius. Just because Id releases one game that’s not the best, you people are going at his throat.

This guy created the Quake engines. Nearly EVERY other game engine is based on HIS designs and work. Many of the games you play now are probably using an engine in some part derived from his engines. And nearly all the engines, whether derived or not, are inspired by his work. This guy really knows his stuff.

]]>By: Isaiah Gillilandhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-218959
Sat, 23 Jun 2012 04:20:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-218959Not really, the man really knows his stuff. I’d go so far to even call him a programming genius. He pioneered a lot of the standard techniques nearly all us other game programmers use.

Plus you honestly have no idea how hard it is to get something to run perfectly for everyone in the PC game industry. Not arguing about the game, it was a letdown. But the tech was legit.

]]>By: Isaiah Gillilandhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-218958
Sat, 23 Jun 2012 04:15:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-218958Oh REALLY! I had no idea you were an expert 3D engine programmer who’s worked in the industry for decades. You must be so much more knowledgeable about this than John Carmack!
]]>By: Squatchmenhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-218956
Sat, 23 Jun 2012 04:02:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-218956“It will be still the same old(7 years old) stuff, but faster(barely fast to keep up with the times)” – Abhijit

You just said, from your own quote, that the next generation will be running on the same stuff it’s running on now. No, it will not, it will be produced by current end PC hardware with the same bells and whistles…

Here’s the thing: current technology is rapidly slowing down, it’s the truth. We will soon reach a hardware plateau for several decades I suspect, what’s he’s grasping at is the nonexistent jump in horsepower we experienced from the last generation with very minimum “magic” it’s just that simple… unfortunately

Look at the bright side – in 20 to 50 years we could see that jump in power again, but this time unimaginably impressive when the wave does hit!

]]>By: Squatchmenhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-218955
Sat, 23 Jun 2012 04:00:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-218955“It will be still the same old(7 years old) stuff, but faster(barely fast to keep up with the times)” – Abhijit

you just said, from your own quote, that the next generation will be running on the same stuff it’s running on now. No, it will not, it will be produced by current end PC hardware with the same bells and whistles…

Here’s the thing: current technology is rapidly slowing down, it’s the truth. We will soon reach a hardware plateau for several decades I suspect, what’s he’s grasping at is the nonexistent jump in horsepower we experienced from the last generation with very minimum “magic” it’s just that simple… unfortunately

Look at the bright side – in 20 to 50 years we could see that jump in power again, but this time unimaginably impressive when the wave does hit

]]>By: Anonhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-218904
Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:19:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-218904With every new generation of gaming that came out we’ve thought, “it doesn’t get any better than this”
my point being that we thought we hit “the best” years ago, but new innovations in rendering, lighting, tessellation etc keep surfacing and improving graphics more than we originally thought possible
]]>By: Anonhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-218901
Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:09:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-218901I don’t know.. there’s already PC games that are much more advanced than console titles and they cost about the same. i think in the long run the increased development cost is spread over all the units that are sold and its not significant enough to warrant a dramatic price increase.
]]>By: Anonhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-218900
Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:07:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-218900I don’t have a problem with that, its exactly what I expect from a new gaming console.. too many people are forcing extraordinary things like kinect or that smart glass thing into the gaming world. I dont care about any of that, i just want a console that can do MORE of the SAME.
]]>By: Алекс Галкинhttps://www.slashgear.com/john-carmack-says-ps4-xbox-720-nothing-to-be-excited-about-21235224/#comment-218810
Fri, 22 Jun 2012 17:44:00 +0000http://www.slashgear.com/?p=235224#comment-218810While I agree about “more processing power”, there is no such thing as “better AI”. The gaming AI is still in it’s infant years and there was no real progress in it since mid-90s.
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