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USC getting left out after finishing 2nd in Pac12 reg season and runner up in Pac12 tourney while they put in Arizona St. in when they finished 9th in Pac12 and lost first game in Pac12 tourney is the biggest screw job in the history of the tourney. USC has an RPI of 34. Committee seems to have punished them for being one of the schools named in the FBI thing but that's totally unfair imo as they let other schools in that are also named and with worse resumes than USC.

USC getting left out after finishing 2nd in Pac12 reg season and runner up in Pac12 tourney while they put in Arizona St. in when they finished 9th in Pac12 and lost first game in Pac12 tourney is the biggest screw job in the history of the tourney. USC has an RPI of 34. Committee seems to have punished them for being one of the schools named in the FBI thing but that's totally unfair imo as they let other schools in that are also named and with worse resumes than USC.

Well I guess this proves pipedream correct. Conference standing did not mean jack

USC getting left out after finishing 2nd in Pac12 reg season and runner up in Pac12 tourney while they put in Arizona St. in when they finished 9th in Pac12 and lost first game in Pac12 tourney is the biggest screw job in the history of the tourney. USC has an RPI of 34. Committee seems to have punished them for being one of the schools named in the FBI thing but that's totally unfair imo as they let other schools in that are also named and with worse resumes than USC.

So much for the idea that major conference teams with top 40 RPIs can't be left out.

They really should switch to an objective, pre-established and public computer formula to pick the teams. The Committee can't even be consistent from year to year on what's important.

Well I guess this proves pipedream correct. Conference standing did not mean jack

The committee has consistently said several things:
1) Conference standing is not taken into account, it's your individual games
2) OOC play matters just as much as in-conference
3) RPI is a guide but is not an absolute
4) Scheduling matters
5) Good wins, especially on the road, and bad losses are probably the most important aspect

The committee has consistently said several things:
1) Conference standing is not taken into account, it's your individual games
2) OOC play matters just as much as in-conference
3) RPI is a guide but is not an absolute
4) Scheduling matters
5) Good wins, especially on the road, and bad losses are probably the most important aspect

The committee has consistently said several things:
1) Conference standing is not taken into account, it's your individual games
2) OOC play matters just as much as in-conference
3) RPI is a guide but is not an absolute
4) Scheduling matters
5) Good wins, especially on the road, and bad losses are probably the most important aspect

So ASU beat Xavier and Kansas, and USC H2H, and they didn't lose to #226. That's basically what that decision came down to.

This should highlight why we want teams we beat to do well. You have to have great wins. You don’t get in the tournament by beating a bunch of decent teams. Bad losses are typically forgiven if you’ve got solid wins and show capability of beating tournament teams. We have a few that qualified as good wins, but no really great wins. @TAMU is the best we got. Needed better. UT, Auburn, Cincinnati, and wins against the blue bloods usually do the trick for the eye test. We didn’t have any of those.

I actually think this is pretty easy to be honest with you. Need a reasonably tough OOC schedule and win the majority of them. Less than 150 in RPI for total non conference SOS but preferably Top 100. Need to win some on the road or on neutral sites, even if it’s against weaker opponents. Need to beat some Top 30 RPI teams. Need to avoid losses outside the Top 150 RPI.

Not sure they compared the 2 head-to-head. If they did, not sure why it was either/or

I'm not saying they did, but they obviously do compare teams. And ASU was obviously one of the last in, and I'm guessing USC was one of the first out. So I'm sure the two were discussed in comparison. And it's all one big comparison at the end of the day.

This should highlight why we want teams we beat to do well. You have to have great wins. You don’t get in the tournament by beating a bunch of decent teams. Bad losses are typically forgiven if you’ve got solid wins and show capability of beating tournament teams. We have a few that qualified as good wins, but no really great wins. @TAMU is the best we got. Needed better. UT, Auburn, Cincinnati, and wins against the blue bloods usually do the trick for the eye test. We didn’t have any of those.

I actually think this is pretty easy to be honest with you. Need a reasonably tough OOC schedule and win the majority of them. Less than 150 in RPI for total non conference SOS but preferably Top 100. Need to win some on the road or on neutral sites, even if it’s against weaker opponents. Need to beat some Top 30 RPI teams. Need to avoid losses outside the Top 150 RPI.

Correct. We had the typical meh resume that doesn't get in - bad OOC schedule with no good wins there, some solid wins but no great ones in-conference, and a few rough losses (OM, Vandy, LSU). Take away at least one of those and we may have a shot. Schedule better and avoid the 300+ RPI teams in the OOC, we may get in. Beat Auburn and Tennessee, we may get in. Eliminate those 3 losses, we may get in. But you can't do all of those and get in. That won't ever happen.

Isn?t the overall objective to get the best teams in the tournament? Wasn?t the SEC touted as the best conference in the nation all year, top to bottom? Didn?t we finish I. The top half of a 16 team league of which for 8 births? Are we not one of the top 8 SEC teams? The NCAA continues to change the criteria to make their selections. It?s just sad that a team who looked awful most of the SEC season and finished with the same record as we did in conference, gets in because they scheduled some high ranked teams OOC. Then Bama team got in with a worse conference record and a RPI 30 points better than us. We were two last second bad calls away from 11-7 and looked like a tourney team but get screwed because we beat everyone we were supposed to beat before conference play?

Isn?t the overall objective to get the best teams in the tournament? Wasn?t the SEC touted as the best conference in the nation all year, top to bottom? Didn?t we finish I. The top half of a 16 team league of which for 8 births? Are we not one of the top 8 SEC teams? The NCAA continues to change the criteria to make their selections. It?s just sad that a team who looked awful most of the SEC season and finished with the same record as we did in conference, gets in because they scheduled some high ranked teams OOC. Then Bama team got in with a worse conference record and a RPI 30 points better than us. We were two last second bad calls away from 11-7 and looked like a tourney team but get screwed because we beat everyone we were supposed to beat before conference play?

We did not get screwed. Bama and A&M both had significantly better resumes. It is what it is.

but get screwed because we beat everyone we were supposed to beat before conference play?

In the eyes of the committee we didn't beat everyone we were supposed to beat before conference play. We didn't beat anyone. Our OOC record was basically 0-13. 13 opportunities to show we are one of the best 30 teams in the country and we chose to not take advantage of that opportunity 13 times.

USC getting left out after finishing 2nd in Pac12 reg season and runner up in Pac12 tourney while they put in Arizona St. in when they finished 9th in Pac12 and lost first game in Pac12 tourney is the biggest screw job in the history of the tourney. USC has an RPI of 34. Committee seems to have punished them for being one of the schools named in the FBI thing but that's totally unfair imo as they let other schools in that are also named and with worse resumes than USC.

OKST not getting in over Oklahoma is a travesty too imo. They beat Oklahoma twice, Kansas twice, and also West Virginia. Only reason Oklahoma got in is bc of Trae Young

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