AAAARGH I'VE HAD IT UP TO HERE WITH FREAKING DOCTORS IF I SEND YOU A FAX ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON A SCRIPT JUST FUCKING ANSWER THE QUESTION IT'S NOT THAT HARD sonsabitches don't read past the first sentence freakin useless grumble grrr ack

i had a horrible experience last night and ran out of a NA meeting and nearly caved. Luckily, I didnt.

Crazy people at NA (the people running it no less! college educated!!) tried telling me that methadone prescribed by a dr means I am still actively using and unclean and bc it is a mood and mind altering substance i cant talk in the meetings or really participate and that it is different from cigarettes, anti-anxiety, and anti-depressants because those things are not mind and mood altering, are non-narcotic, are not addictive, and people do not abuse them.

The insane rampant ignorance and stupidity of those statements triggered a meltdown for me at the meeting and when they insisted upon this flawed logic and used it as justification for excluding me i told them that they needed to "put their educations to use, read a fucking book, and get a fucking clue so that they can stop spouting insane bullshit" and walked out inthe middle of the meeting.

Uhm..The NA meeting I go to we NEVER talk about whether or not we are clean nor do they encourage you to discuss your drug of addiction. They do stress (rightly so) that if you are drinking you're not clean.

Thinking about you Headrot…

LadyH..I was just educated on the etiquette of group smokes. Thank you very much. Didn't know this stuff.

Jane looks good but very uncomfortable in that dress. And isn't AmFar a big deal? Begs the question though where is Lohag?

Headrot: I'm a dual diagnosis worker in Australia and so sorry you had that experience. Pharmacotherapy should be seen as a medication to treat a disease. There is a lot of ignorance out there, but it shouldn't come from people at NA!

I wanted to be clear Headrot that I am quite sympathetic to your plight. Sadly there aren't a plethora of NA groups that are convenient and going to heal should certainly not be discouraged. Someone further downstream mentioned the pharmacological use to heal.

I will say that most groups are run by volunteers and zero people who have medical oversight. All I can hope for you is that someone wises up but you probably don't want to attend that group again.

Shame because you're trying so hard to heal. Hoping there's another group close by or a different day that is better.

…and fuck the NA peeps! You were tested last night and you DIDN'T cave! That is amazing and inspiring You should be sooooo proud of yourself. You need to find a place (ASAP) that will work with you and your sobriety journey. *hugs*

LowKey I feel your pain! Before doing the stay at home mom thing I did what you do. I used to just love the docs or nurses that were snarky to me bc apparently I wasnt as smart as them. Bc I so enjoyed having to bug you bc you can't answer a question or it looked like chicken scratch. And the call was only made after having to ask a million co workers if they could read it. That being said the nice ones always made my day

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