This is why I'm always on the fence for macs. If I ever get one I'll run windows on em

You can, but Macs are a breeze to use and once you get used to them Windows begins to feel rather archaic. I utterly hate how overpriced they are, but I love OS X. My next computer is going to be a Hackintosh. That way I can dual boot and use both OS's.

So how long till they are in the iMacs though? I mean, I have 15 days on these machines, and waiting a few more months isn't too bad.

Hard to say. Apple tends to keep their laptops more up to date than their desktops. I'd assume the imac would be updated shortly after the new intel processors are released during the summer, but I'm not as sure about the imac being refreshed as soon as the macbooks.

Hard to say. Apple tends to keep their laptops more up to date than their desktops. I'd assume the imac would be updated shortly after the new intel processors are released during the summer, but I'm not as sure about the imac being refreshed as soon as the macbooks.

The new Mac Pros should be out as well when the new Intel chips release.

They'll tend to stick to Spring or Autumn to update the Mac line. Spec bumbs can happen at anytime but redesigns are traditionally done in either Spring our Autumn.

Considering the iMac's got a new design recently, that they just now are starting to get a handle on, I'd say we're in it for the long-haul with that design.

Not sure what MBP you got, Retina or regular? Don't think they'll do much with the design of the regular MBP anytime soon. They may change some stuff on the rMBP to make it handle heat better but the external design will likely be the same for a while there too.

Keep in mind Apple needs a $#@!load of chips from Intel so it's harder for them to update the specs directly after they come out than for other low volume manufactures.

I got a regular mbp instead of the retina one. Really, this was an opened box from Best Buy, and I got a good price on it. If I go to the Apple website right now, this is the base config of the non-retina mbp. It's $1799 for it. I got it for $1438.

I have 13 days to keep debating on what to do. Keep this now, or wait until the specs are bumped. That will also mean the price is going to be higher for me at that point. So, I'm going to put it through a lot to see if these specs are what I'll be fine with.

I honestly thought it wasn't going to do well with some things. Comparing it to my Asus... it seems like it would be extremely inferior.

This has 512MB GT650M, my Asus has a 2GB GTX 660M. This has 4GB RAM, my Asus has 8GB. So far, the things I've done on the Asus have been just the same on this MBP.

I got a regular mbp instead of the retina one. Really, this was an opened box from Best Buy, and I got a good price on it. If I go to the Apple website right now, this is the base config of the non-retina mbp. It's $1799 for it. I got it for $1438.

I have 13 days to keep debating on what to do. Keep this now, or wait until the specs are bumped. That will also mean the price is going to be higher for me at that point. So, I'm going to put it through a lot to see if these specs are what I'll be fine with.

I honestly thought it wasn't going to do well with some things. Comparing it to my Asus... it seems like it would be extremely inferior.

This has 512MB GT650M, my Asus has a 2GB GTX 660M. This has 4GB RAM, my Asus has 8GB. So far, the things I've done on the Asus have been just the same on this MBP.

The Apple refurb section of their website has similar if not better deals than that.

I got a regular mbp instead of the retina one. Really, this was an opened box from Best Buy, and I got a good price on it. If I go to the Apple website right now, this is the base config of the non-retina mbp. It's $1799 for it. I got it for $1438.

I have 13 days to keep debating on what to do. Keep this now, or wait until the specs are bumped. That will also mean the price is going to be higher for me at that point. So, I'm going to put it through a lot to see if these specs are what I'll be fine with.

I honestly thought it wasn't going to do well with some things. Comparing it to my Asus... it seems like it would be extremely inferior.

This has 512MB GT650M, my Asus has a 2GB GTX 660M. This has 4GB RAM, my Asus has 8GB. So far, the things I've done on the Asus have been just the same on this MBP.

Well the cpu's match up closely so the main differentiator is the gpu (which matters most for gaming).

Plus I believe your asus has a 1080p screen, mbp has a 1440 x 900 screen.

The Apple refurb section of their website has similar if not better deals than that.

The refurb section has the same mbp on there, but it's at $1528.

Originally Posted by MATRIX 2

Well the cpu's match up closely so the main differentiator is the gpu (which matters most for gaming).

Plus I believe your asus has a 1080p screen, mbp has a 1440 x 900 screen.

Yeah, those two are the other things I'm thinking about. 17" 1080p, 15.4" "900p". I haven't been gaming on the PC that much to be honest. Diablo III, Sim City, and a few other things. So, there's a few things to think about until I make the final decision.

Honestly, I've been freakin' playing on my iPad the most. I haven't even touched a console in a while. Over the past few weeks, I've put in almost 60hrs on Real Racing 3 on my iPad.

This is why I'm always on the fence for macs. If I ever get one I'll run windows on em

I have three Macs and run Windows on two of them. The iMac can be used as a display for a MBP via thunderbolt that runs Windows, so I haven't added Windows to the iMac and probably won't. The price of adding Windows/VMWare Fusion has been pretty cheap, so it just seemed like a no-brainer for me.

I know I will never be as comfortable using OSX as Windows. However, I have Macs because, for me, they don't feel as connected to my work. I still use Windows for work related projects, so it should stay that way.

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