NewportBarGuy:violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

NewportBarGuy:Frank N Stein: You don't know what single shot is and you call a magazine a clip. You ain't proficient in shiat.

Semantics, as I've stated.

Single-round down range per trigger pull... Single-shot.

Magazine... what you subscribe to.

To bring the civility up a bit, I'll say this:

What you brush off as merely "semantics", I believe to be important details when discussing a law of any sorts, especially ones with constitutional implications. Now this being Fark, I understand that our little comments have no real weight on the issue. However, when I hear inaccurate representation of mechanics and terminology, I (and many others) tend to give that person less credit on the subject.

You're profile I see says that you were a cavalry scout. This being the internet and all, I take that with a grain of salt. Nothing against you personally, and I'm not call you a liar, but that's just how it goes with ANY unverified claim on the internet (think RE:RE:RE:RE OBAMA BORN ON THE MOON). Now, assuming you claim is true, you know the terminology and mechanics. In that case, you're just intentionally being obtuse.

Take it however you like it. I honestly don't care. Long past the point of caring what a jackass like you thinks. NO! You will not maintain the status quo. Your best bet is to compromise and let them have a win. If history is an indicator, the new rules/regs will fall apart in 2-4 years.

Fark It:You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Can you point to me which amendment in the Bill of Rights said "women not being allowed to vote shall not be infringed," and "the upgrading of darkies from 3/5ths a person to one whole shall not be undertook?"

NewportBarGuy:Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.

You need someone to make sure YOU get your meds, You seem off your rocker dude.

IlGreven,BarkingUnicorn: "The new guns will ultimately be paid for by the officers themselves who are taking a deduction in their paychecks to make this happen."Something smells fishy about that.

You need to know that they finance their toys through creative law enforcement. Sometimes following drivers one or two yards behind the car they are tailing, sometime escalating incidents. This will not be free.

NewportBarGuy: Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.

You need someone to make sure YOU get your meds, You seem off your rocker dude.

Actually, the last thing he needs is meds. There are some studies that keep getting buried because large pharm companies dont want this shiat getting out, but a LOT of those psych drugs, especially Prozac, cause violent reactions. I'm afraid that as "mental health" is pushed more in an effort to curb these events, it will only cause more as we know what "mental health" means in the US. Getting you hooked on pills

violentsalvation:NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Funny thing, did you know that if more than 10 firearms backtracked by law enforcement, the FFL that sold those firearms has to give the ATF the personal information, and records of sale of every single person that have dealt with to the ATF? Now imagine if every private sale had to go through a FFL? It's backdoor registration.

NewportBarGuy:Fark It: You tell us, soldier, you're the one who swore an oath to protect and defend it with your life.

Unless you're lying about that too.

What the f*ck? I now work for the Veterans Administration making sure vets get their medications. Disabled vets like myself. Making sure we take care of those we sent into battle, their widow, orphans...

Go f*ck yourself.

What was your MOS? Where did you do basic and what year did you do it? What was your first duty station?

violentsalvation:NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Have you considered penis enlargement surgery? That would have a 0% chance of butchering 26 kindergarteners.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Have you considered penis enlargement surgery? That would have a 0% chance of butchering 26 kindergarteners.

It must be nice dancing on the graves on children. Tell me, are you also wearing cleats?

GUTSU:Eatin' Queer Fetuses for Jesus: violentsalvation: NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Have you considered penis enlargement surgery? That would have a 0% chance of butchering 26 kindergarteners.

It must be nice dancing on the graves on children. Tell me, are you also wearing cleats?

/Feinstein does//I'd mention my SAR-1 but it's banned by name on her newest proposal so I know where you stand on that

I saw a list today and the M1 carbine wasn't on it.

It occured to me today that Feinstein wants to make military style rifles so rare we will mainly see them on movie screens, TV shows and video games, and they would cause less deaths than back yard pools. Hey, mission accomplished!

To be fair, 26 children means a LOT of blood, and some ammunition is cheap. Have you SEEN the cost of interior red paint lately? It's outrageous. I can't afford sacrifices to the Lord God Slanaash with paint anymore, and he's getting a bit pissy lately about it. Animals just aren't cutting it for him anymore, man.

Personally, using rock salt loads in a 410 brings him the most pleasure. I think it's those screams. Like the seagulls on a beach in the morning as the tide receeds. Especially if you aim for the chest or abdomen.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Have you considered penis enlargement surgery? That would have a 0% chance of butchering 26 kindergarteners.

Thank you for fulfilling the requisite gun thread penis comment. You help save children with that, you really do.

GUTSU:violentsalvation: NewportBarGuy: violentsalvation: ut frankly, I'm sick of the ignorance that we see in these debates.

I don't even share my own opinions. I would like to keep my AR-15, but Cletus here is making absurd arguments. I resign myself to the lowest point, and am surprised when they don't come knocking at my door.

I know that I'll be able to keep what I own currently. I remember, and the politicians remember what happened the last time they 'took' guns. This is a ridiculous argument.

All sales, private and public should be run through NICS. If they do just that, I'm happy. Any responsible gun owner should want that,

I could get on board with that, as long as the expanded NICS isn't going to be some ridiculous hindrance to private party sales with a 30 day backlog or anything.

There are other ideas but they are shouted down, I guess for simply accepting the reality of the situation and not being idealistic enough. I'd like a tax credit considered for purchasers of approved and properly installed gun safes. Or at least I'd like to talk about it and hear other ideas other than my penis is small. But that's how these debates go.

Funny thing, did you know that if more than 10 firearms backtracked by law enforcement, the FFL that sold those firearms has to give the ATF the personal information, and records of sale of every single person that have dealt with to the ATF? Now imagine if every private sale had to go through a FFL? It's backdoor registration.

The backdoor registration bothers me, because that has a hint of "oh hey we changed our minds, fork it over". I'd hope legislation allowing private parties to access the NICS would understand that a private sale is not the same as someone who is explicitly in the business of selling firearms.