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Wrath of God Discussion

22 hours ago

Your deck wins by having bigger and better creatures than your opponent, so you really shouldn't be in a situation where
Wrath of God
helps you. You might, however, be in one where
Urza's Ruinous Blast
does. Legendary creatures aren't too popular, and you have a good few. I would probably just cut it, though.

2 days ago

I don't know what your financial situation is like, but Top and Azusa are pretty valuable, and I might just trade them for handfuls of $5-10 cards for whatever deck you choose to build. If not, Azusa is a good fit for
Tatyova, Benthic Druid
. Top is still good in EDH, although some people frown on it for how it can slow games down. The best deck for it is
Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow
. I would stay away from Earth Surge shenanigans.
Wrath of God
effects are very common in EDH, and turning your lands into creatures for more than a single turn is dangerous.

Here's a review of the most recent preconstructed EDH decks that Wizards makes. They function right out of the box, and the WUG deck has been rated the best to play as is, lining up well with your color preferences and the dual lands you have.

Regarding lands, I don't think balance is the problem as much as the number. Your mana curve isn't low enough for just 20 lands, and you even run three colors! Maybe one Swamp, one Mountain, and one Fetch Land like
Terramorphic Expanse
?

2 days ago

Though our colors and budgets are a bit different, I might recommend you look at my Home alone deck, which features a similar strategy using
Thantis, the Warweaver
instead of
War's Toll
. My deck is a bit different; it's based less on not being attacked, but on forcing people to attack you and then punishing them for it; but the general ideas are the same.

Of immediate note to me is
Vicious Shadows
. People tend to see this card and read "when a creature an opponent control dies, that creatures controller takes damage equal to the number of cards in their hand." But it's not that. It's any creature, and it's target player. With a card out like war's toll, you should have some options.

Stuffy Doll
is a really fun card to look at, and like vicious shadows, it gives you some political power. Watch people attack you with a single creature, knowing you'll block it and hurt a mutual foe. It also pairs really well with red murder spells
Blasphemous Act
and
Star of Extinction
. I'm noticing you don't really have board wipe spells here; those two and also the white
Wrath of God
are good choices.

3 days ago

3 days ago

I'm worried that by adding "better cards" the deck is pricing itself out of where it's supposed to be. This deck was never intended to be super competitive. It's meant to be a fun casual deck. Please keep that in mind. I might actually rework this deck to remove the
Karlov of the Ghost Council
,
Damnation
,
Wrath of God
, and
Godless Shrine
. Replacing them with slightly lesser powered alternative would reduce the cost of the deck by half.

6 days ago

I mean, look, it's not like the EDH ban list is specifically constructed with cEDH in mind--a lot of is just dedicated to banning really expensive cards that wouldn't break the format but would give no one any reason to play anything else (
Ancestral Recall
), or annoying pubstomp cards people wouldn't stop playing in casual that aren't actually that great (
Sylvan Primordial
,
Primeval Titan
). Cards like
Yawgmoth's Will
and
Hermit Druid
are way better in the format, obviously, but no one seems to care.

That being said, following that logic, why not ban cards like
Rhystic Study
and
Cyclonic Rift
? Rhystic is the format's real Ancestral Recall (if Recall had the added effect of recurring itself on your upkeep unless any player paid 1), and it's not like it's ever been even remotely fun to play against in casual. It's not like the game could really function without staples--just because every white deck (in casual) plays
Wrath of God
doesn't mean that card is overpowered, but, come on, if you can ban
Upheaval
, you can ban
Cyclonic Rift
(it's honestly harder to win with upheaval than with cyclonic rift, and, besides,
Obliterate
isn't banned, is it)?

Modern:

All decks: 0.09%

White: 0.52%

W/U (Azorius): 0.37%

W/B (Orzhov): 0.29%

Legacy:

All decks: 0.03%

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