So I've been discussing otherkin on tumblr lately and the more I talk with people the more it reinforces my belief that they're either mentally ill, attention whoring or just plain old wagon hopping on whatever new trend they see.

There is no such thing as otherkin as you can't be anything else but a human being in your human body. As for the idiots that compare their nonissues being otherkin with the issues that the LGBT community faces daily is just plain old insulting and stupid. They whine about how they're being oppressed, their rights violated, etc., and yet these twats aren't being denied any human right by being an otherkin.

- You'll never be denied work because you're an otherkin.- You'll never be denied an education because you're an otherkin.- You'll never be denied the right to marry because you're an otherkin.- You'll never be denied the right to have children or adopt because you're an otherkin.- You'll never be denied healthcare because you're an otherkin.- You'll never be denied any human right because you're an otherkin.

So how the fucking fuck are your issues on par with that of the LGBT community? You'll never know what oppression is being an otherkin you fucking twatkin.

Claiming to be an otherkin has about as much legitimacy as claiming to be a Raelian or a Scientologist. They're all equally fictional, full of shit and/or delusional.

Most of you who really believe your own otherkin bullshit should seek professional help/treatment. Don't encourage this mental illness, it only makes it more difficult for those who really do believe their delusion to seek help.

And no, before you whine, bitch and moan, I'm not saying all otherkin are mentally ill, most are just attention whores and others are just role playing.

You're not an animal, you're not that fictional character, you're you, a human, and that's pretty much all you'll ever be. You're not an animal born in a human body, you don't have a tail, or wings, you never did.

I understand if you don't like otherkins, I also think that most of them are stupid and annoying. I'm not an otherkin myself but one of my friends is a dogkin and so I got a bit interested in her beliefs. I saw you said being otherkin has nothing to do with beliefs and there I don't really agree. My goal is not to protect otherkins but you're hating on something you apparently don't know and that is also stupid!

My friend, to give an example, never believed she was part dog, she was a dog trapped in a human body, she doesn't act as a dog, bark or claim to be a dog. She believes in an afterlife and reincarnation. For her, your soul doesn't have a form, it's your body which is the form and make you what you are, your soul only gives you life and is a sort of essence (still according to her) and so a soul isn't human, nor any other animal. This means in a past life you could have been a cat, a cow or a human.

For her, in her past life, she was a dog and now she's a normal being human but her soul kept some things of her past life. She thinks it's the same with everyone but some keep more remains than others, almost everyone has a favourite animal and for her it's linked to that.

I don't really believe in this but I can't deny it's a belief, I must also say that that friend was born with a really higher hearing which was proven by a doctor, she can hear sounds most people don't hear. She also has a better sense of smell.

I don't say it's a proof but it's what made her think about the past life and all.

I would also like to apologies if this isn't clear, English isn't my first language so it's not perfect.

I didn't have to read your entire comment to know that it's complete bullshit. In the same way there is NO such thing as mediums, psychics, faith healers, etc., there is no such thing as otherkin.

None.

Also, what she thinks are memories of a past life are nothing more than her wild imagination. She was not a dog, she doesn't have memories of being a dog, she is not a dog trapped in a human body now. Stop encouraging this nonsense. A lot of people have an extraordinary sense of smell, or taste, or touch, or hearing, or sight. People in the food industry often have a much better developed palate and sense of taste. Those who work in the perfume or cosmetic industry usually have a more developed olfactory and are able to pick out smells others are unable to. Blind people are also said to have a far more sensitive sense of touch and hearing. Some people have excellent 20/20 vision and some people, especially women, have an extra cone in their eye that allows them to see colors others are unable to.

See? None of these people are otherkin. These heightened senses are completely natural and have nothing to do with this nonsense.

I never said I believed the same thing as her but apparently you can't read well. I don't believe what she says is true and as I said I don't really care about what your opinion on otherkin is. Personally I think that any religion is stupid and I don't believe in any of these.

The problem here is your attitude and how you see things. You don't like otherkins, it's fine. You think they are stupid, it's your right but your reasoning of "I don't like so it doesn't exist" is even worse, it's bullshit too!

A person that claim to be an animal or act as an animal is bullshit because you can clearly see they are human but in the example I gave you it is a belief. I don't see why reincarnation is different than anything that is meant to happen to the soul after death. Thinking your soul will come back in another body after death is a belief and even if you dislike it doesn't mean it isn't. I don't think it's real or it's what really happens but it is still seen as a belief.

It's like telling religions don't exist, you may think they are bullshit, stupid or whatever you want and it will be your opinion but saying they don't exist would just be stupid.

I haven't said that because of her heightened senses she was obviously an otherkin...if you had read my comment you would have read that I don't believe in what she believes but as it's what made her wonder what happened after death and she thought reincarnation was the most believable thing (for her) I could also write it, I never ever said it was a proof or anything.

I don't know if you're a troll or a nine years old who can't understand anything but I don't think the long message I took my time to write just meant that I didn't care.

in brief so even with your lack of intelligence you might be able to understand:

Otherkins are stupid=opinion=alright

Thinking soul reincarnate in a new body=Belief

The fact that you agree with it or not doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

You questioning my intelligence is laughable. You can't even form a complete paragraph, let alone a proper sentence. Let's take a look, shall we?

"Can you read? Because I'm seriously doubting it." This should read: "Can't you read? Because I seriously doubt it."

"I don't know if you're a troll or a nine years old who can't understand anything but I don't think the long message I took my time to write just meant that I didn't care." This should read: "I don't know if you're a troll or a nine year old girl who is unable to understand. However, my having written a message, regardless of its length, isn't indicative of any level of apathy."

"in brief so even with your lack of intelligence you might be able to understand:" This should read: "In brief, so that even someone such as yourself can understand:"

"Otherkin are stupid=opinion=alright" This should read: "Otherkin is a silly philosophy and opinions on this subject vary, which is quite fine."

"Thinking soul reincarnate in a new body=Belief" and "The fact that you agree with it or not doesn't mean it doesn't exist." This should read: "Reincarnation is a long held belief centuries of years old and whether or not you agree with it is irrelevant to the fact that people believe it to be real, and it also just might be."

To which I reply: Not only have people believed that the Earth was flat, that the Earth has only existed for a few millennia, that the sun and everything in space revolved around Earth because Earth was the center of everything, that human and animal sacrifice had an affect on weather/crops/economy, that menstruation is a curse and women were filthy/tainted when they bled, and so many other incredibly ignorant things that are still believed even to this day. Does that make any of these things true? Of course not, because now we know better. Now we know that the Earth is round and that it's millions of years old. We know that it's also not the center of the universe and that we orbit a sun. We know that not only is animal/human sacrifice wrong, but that it has zero impact on the weather/climate, on crops or the economy. We also know that menstruation is a natural cycle that occurs in a woman's body and that it has no significant meaning beyond that.

So, is it possible for an animal to be trapped within a human body? No, of course not, because that's also something science/education has given us in the form of knowledge and common sense to know better. Unless we're able to splice an animal's DNA with a human's DNA, there is zero possibility for either of the two to ever cross over. The only animal I can agree that we have anything in common with would be the Bonobo Chimpanzee because we know that not only do we share a common ancestor, but we also share a 99% similarity in DNA. So if there's any animal that we would ever resemble or have a sense of familiarity with, it would be the apes.

Not a dog. Not a cat. Not even a sandwich. Apes.

Also, to not care about someone's opinion actually does mean you're apathetic to the situation and therefore you would not actually reply to them, let alone bring the topic up in the first place.

If you could read you would have seen that in the first comment I made I actually told that English wasn't my first language so of course I will do mistakes and won't understand everything but knowing two languages doesn't mean being stupid, if you want we can speak in French and then you will see I speak way more easily.

I know I shouldn't have said that, it's that you can't read but you don't want to read and it's where the whole problem is, if you had read my previous comments you would realize I'm repeating myself all the time because you just miss the point.

The only thing I said was that you can't say that because something is stupid it doesn't exist, you can prove being an otherkin is stupid but you can't say people don't believe in it. Now again I don't think being an animal trapped in a human body is possible but like I said, It's still a believe. You can say it's stupid, it's true and that isn't a problem at all but saying something which many people believe in doesn't exist is also stupid.

in the examples you brought, of course we can now prove these things are all false and stupid but can you say these beliefs never existed? No, because no matter how stupid it was people believed in these things.

So it's the same here, I agree with you that thinking a human could be an animal trapped in a human body is senseless and stupid but people still believe in it. They maybe need mental help but they believe in it and so it exists.

Another thing I would like to say is that, even if I don't agree with it either, some otherkin people are actually sane and don't think they are actually animals. Like the girl I talked about, I don't believe in her vision of things but you can't prove with sciences that reincarnation isn't real like you can't prove god isn't real.

my favorite thing about stamps like this is that most sjws literally flock over to them and add absolutely nothing of value to the conversation.they just spout some random idiocy and repeat it over and over again.

I've recently dropped the otherkin label because of the very stuff you mentioned here. My whatever is/was for psychological reasons. I'm married, got college degrees, a house, and other cool shit. Never once was I discriminated against for being dogkin. I guess because I know how to fucking act.

'Kin issues are not on par with anyone's issues. I've seen/heard about terrible things done to people just because they were not straight or binary (beaten up, disowned, verbally abused). Even been through a bit myself :/ Just...holy fuck no.

It's hilarious when people say it's ableist when someone is against otherkinAnd holy shit, when it's meshed with gender issues I die laughing. Most of these kids who claim to be otherkin are transphobic without knowing it

No. Though there is no substantial evidence that a creator doesn't exist - nor is there any evidence that one does - it is quite safe to say that this otherkin nonsense is exactly that, nonsense. You can't descriminate that which does not exist.

So, it's totally ok for a schizoprenic to believe whatever it is their disorder is making them believe and we should all just leave them alone and all get along? Maybe build a fire and sing kumbaya? Make smores? Otherkin is not a belief, it's completely made up, much like religion. You're not being discriminated against because your human and civil rights are not being denied based on this nonsense.

You're not any other animal other than a homo sapien. Or an object. Or another person. Or an alien. Or an insect. Or a mythical creature. It isn't genetically possible to be anything else other than human because we aren't compatible with any other animal species, cross species breeding is not possible with humans. You cannot form an embryo using an egg from a human and a sperm cell from another species, or vice versa.

Even if a child is raised by a pack of wild dogs - which has happened and has been documented - that child would still not be anything other than a human. In order for otherkin to be possible, the genetic material must be present in utero, whether it be from the male or female, and must be compatible to fertilize and form an embryo. Until that is possible, otherkin is nothing more than silly nonsense, a game children play, like pretending to be a fairy, dragon or a cat.

Well yeah, we can get along and not care about each other's differences in thoughts I would believe.

Otherkin believe they are SPIRTUALLY an animal. Not like in the flesh. We are all homosapiens, but our spirit/soul is an animal or another thing. It all has to do with a spiritual belief. So yes you're correct, we are human. But spiritually we aren't. Therefore, we like to call ourselves animals etc...

It has to do with feelings not science. Thing is I relate to the dog thing since I have a connection with other dogs but hey, all animals do to me.Otherkin have a FEELING of being an animal. Not biologically an animal of course.

They cannot be spiritually anything without a significant amount of genetic material being present. Your feelings have everything to do with science. Your emotions are nothing more then chemical secretions in your brain. Their feelings of being an otherkin are nothing more than empathic reactions toward another species or person. What you're feeling is affection, which translates into empathic emotions. You're not actually a dog, spiritually or otherwise, nor can you relate to being a dog. What you're relating to are situations and experiences, not the actual animal.

In order to actually feel like a dog, you would require a significant amount of genetic material in order for any psychological affect to occur. You would slowly cease to be human and adopt the dog's psychological behaviors. Your human psychology is dependant on your human genetics. In fact, your psychology is due to genetics. Even if you were raised by a pack of dogs from infanthood, you would still not be a dog. Your behaviors might mimic that of a dog, but you would still be psychologically human.

Remember: You're not relating to the dog, you're simply relating to the dog's situation and/or experiences. Much the same way you can't actually feel like another person, spiritually, psychologically or biologically, but rather relate to their situation/experiences emotionally.

It just means you're able to feel empathy for another life form. There's nothing wrong with that. In fact, it's very healthy to do so. But don't mistake it with this otherkin nonsense. It's silly and an insult to the parents that gave you the genetic material that created you.