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Hyypia: Chairman's ambition won me over

Sami Hyypia has revealed how his new chairman’s burning ambition convinced him to take the Albion job.

The Liverpool and Finland legend is starting work as the Seagulls’ manager after signing a three-year deal.

He will put together an off-field team including first team coach Nathan Jones as he kicks off his first managerial mission in this country.

Hyypia was selected from what Albion described as a list of high- calibre candidates after extensive talks with chairman Tony Bloom and chief executive Paul Barber.

The 40-year-old former Bayer Leverkusen boss said: “The chairman is ambitious and for me that is absolutely key.

“I am now looking forward to the challenge ahead and our aim is to take the club forward to the next level.”

Hyypia has been impressed by what he has seen behind the scenes at the club.

He said: “I have looked at the club from top to bottom and I am very impressed by what I’ve seen at all levels.

“I’ve seen the Amex stadium and the club’s new training ground and they are amongst the best I’ve seen anywhere in the world.

“I’ve also already met some of the key staff including Nathan Jones, the club’s head of football David Burke, and Dr Helge Riepenhoff (head of medical and sports science) and I am very much looking forward to working with all of them.”

Hyppia’s appointment was confirmed at 7pm yesterday as expectation rose that the club were set to reveal their choice.

The 105-times capped central defender had emerged as a main contender along with experienced French coach Frederic Hantz in what developed into a two-man race.

Hyypia takes over almost four weeks after Oscar Garcia quit as head coach.

Albion were left with time to search for the Catalan’s successor and are happy with their selection process.

Bloom said: “I would like to thank the fans for their patience during this time.

“I know the fans were keen to see a new manager in place quickly but it was vital to take our time.

“I am extremely confident that Sami will be a big success at Brighton, and I am sure the fans will share our delight at his appointment.”

Supporters get their first chance to see Hyypia’s new team in action when they play their first friendly at Lewes on Saturday, July 5.

Comments

mark by the sea
8:21am Sat 7 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs wrote…

A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....

We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.

Sami has good credentials , and we all want him to do well,
The next 3-4 weeks will show the ambition of TB in terms of budget.
If we sign players who don't excite us, and are out of the Andrews mould , sami will need a miracle, I will no doubt get thumbs down ,but look at the way Cardiff , norwich have started building from a extremely strong position, Derby will be stronger, Wigan, Boro and Fulham ... Unless we replace like for like then sami will need to do wonders in the loan market.
Let's get behind the club whatever , and the support at the Amex needs to wake up.

[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote:
A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....
We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.[/p][/quote]Sami has good credentials , and we all want him to do well,
The next 3-4 weeks will show the ambition of TB in terms of budget.
If we sign players who don't excite us, and are out of the Andrews mould , sami will need a miracle, I will no doubt get thumbs down ,but look at the way Cardiff , norwich have started building from a extremely strong position, Derby will be stronger, Wigan, Boro and Fulham ... Unless we replace like for like then sami will need to do wonders in the loan market.
Let's get behind the club whatever , and the support at the Amex needs to wake up.mark by the sea

Albion In Staffs wrote…

A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....

We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.

Sami has good credentials , and we all want him to do well,
The next 3-4 weeks will show the ambition of TB in terms of budget.
If we sign players who don't excite us, and are out of the Andrews mould , sami will need a miracle, I will no doubt get thumbs down ,but look at the way Cardiff , norwich have started building from a extremely strong position, Derby will be stronger, Wigan, Boro and Fulham ... Unless we replace like for like then sami will need to do wonders in the loan market.
Let's get behind the club whatever , and the support at the Amex needs to wake up.

Score: 12

ringtone
9:33am Sat 7 Jun 14

TheDuke1 wrote…

Hugely concerned about this decision. Sami has sole charge of Bayen Leverkusen for less than a year and got sacked and that his managerial career, other than a short period in a duel management role. A lot of the other names linked to the job included many managers with better CV's,some of which had successfully got clubs promoted to the Premiership.
I also do not understand keeping NJ, surely this should be the managers decision, not a decision made for him.
This stinks of cheap cheap cheap.
I do wonder if TB feels he has overspent over the last few years and it is now time to cut-back. The players who have left the club over the last year indicate this. And of course, the last 2 managers stated that they did not feel supported by the board around the times they both left.
Happy to eat humble pie when we are top at xmas.....

Got it all covered then.

You cant lose, does it feel cosy?

[quote][p][bold]TheDuke1[/bold] wrote:
Hugely concerned about this decision. Sami has sole charge of Bayen Leverkusen for less than a year and got sacked and that his managerial career, other than a short period in a duel management role. A lot of the other names linked to the job included many managers with better CV's,some of which had successfully got clubs promoted to the Premiership.
I also do not understand keeping NJ, surely this should be the managers decision, not a decision made for him.
This stinks of cheap cheap cheap.
I do wonder if TB feels he has overspent over the last few years and it is now time to cut-back. The players who have left the club over the last year indicate this. And of course, the last 2 managers stated that they did not feel supported by the board around the times they both left.
Happy to eat humble pie when we are top at xmas.....[/p][/quote]Got it all covered then.
You cant lose, does it feel cosy?ringtone

TheDuke1 wrote…

Hugely concerned about this decision. Sami has sole charge of Bayen Leverkusen for less than a year and got sacked and that his managerial career, other than a short period in a duel management role. A lot of the other names linked to the job included many managers with better CV's,some of which had successfully got clubs promoted to the Premiership.
I also do not understand keeping NJ, surely this should be the managers decision, not a decision made for him.
This stinks of cheap cheap cheap.
I do wonder if TB feels he has overspent over the last few years and it is now time to cut-back. The players who have left the club over the last year indicate this. And of course, the last 2 managers stated that they did not feel supported by the board around the times they both left.
Happy to eat humble pie when we are top at xmas.....

Got it all covered then.

You cant lose, does it feel cosy?

Score: -7

Tonyuk175
8:03am Sat 7 Jun 14

Looking forward to next season, now with hope we get get to the prem, Sami hopefully can get us a few loans and have the pulling power and name to get a couple of good signings, let's hope the board back him and actually show him the ambition which sold the club to him ...... GOOD LUCK SAMI. UTA

Looking forward to next season, now with hope we get get to the prem, Sami hopefully can get us a few loans and have the pulling power and name to get a couple of good signings, let's hope the board back him and actually show him the ambition which sold the club to him ...... GOOD LUCK SAMI. UTATonyuk175

Looking forward to next season, now with hope we get get to the prem, Sami hopefully can get us a few loans and have the pulling power and name to get a couple of good signings, let's hope the board back him and actually show him the ambition which sold the club to him ...... GOOD LUCK SAMI. UTA

Score: 13

pablobrowno
8:45am Sat 7 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

Haha only in your dreams will we sign Danny Ings. He will be a Prem player through and through. If he leaves Burnley it will be to Leicester or Qpr I reckon!

[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote:
Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.[/p][/quote]Haha only in your dreams will we sign Danny Ings. He will be a Prem player through and through. If he leaves Burnley it will be to Leicester or Qpr I reckon!pablobrowno

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

Haha only in your dreams will we sign Danny Ings. He will be a Prem player through and through. If he leaves Burnley it will be to Leicester or Qpr I reckon!

Score: 6

TheDuke1
9:10am Sat 7 Jun 14

Hugely concerned about this decision. Sami has sole charge of Bayen Leverkusen for less than a year and got sacked and that his managerial career, other than a short period in a duel management role. A lot of the other names linked to the job included many managers with better CV's,some of which had successfully got clubs promoted to the Premiership.
I also do not understand keeping NJ, surely this should be the managers decision, not a decision made for him.
This stinks of cheap cheap cheap.
I do wonder if TB feels he has overspent over the last few years and it is now time to cut-back. The players who have left the club over the last year indicate this. And of course, the last 2 managers stated that they did not feel supported by the board around the times they both left.
Happy to eat humble pie when we are top at xmas.....

Hugely concerned about this decision. Sami has sole charge of Bayen Leverkusen for less than a year and got sacked and that his managerial career, other than a short period in a duel management role. A lot of the other names linked to the job included many managers with better CV's,some of which had successfully got clubs promoted to the Premiership.
I also do not understand keeping NJ, surely this should be the managers decision, not a decision made for him.
This stinks of cheap cheap cheap.
I do wonder if TB feels he has overspent over the last few years and it is now time to cut-back. The players who have left the club over the last year indicate this. And of course, the last 2 managers stated that they did not feel supported by the board around the times they both left.
Happy to eat humble pie when we are top at xmas.....TheDuke1

Hugely concerned about this decision. Sami has sole charge of Bayen Leverkusen for less than a year and got sacked and that his managerial career, other than a short period in a duel management role. A lot of the other names linked to the job included many managers with better CV's,some of which had successfully got clubs promoted to the Premiership.
I also do not understand keeping NJ, surely this should be the managers decision, not a decision made for him.
This stinks of cheap cheap cheap.
I do wonder if TB feels he has overspent over the last few years and it is now time to cut-back. The players who have left the club over the last year indicate this. And of course, the last 2 managers stated that they did not feel supported by the board around the times they both left.
Happy to eat humble pie when we are top at xmas.....

Score: -29

Singing Seagull, Indonesia
7:24am Sat 7 Jun 14

Glad that the managerial merry go round has finally stopped spinning.

Not my personal first choice (and, in fairness, not many people would say he was until it came down to a two man race), but very happy that TB and the board seem to have gone through a thorough vetting process and Hyypiä seems to have done the same. Now everyone starts with a clean sheet and no excuses about lack of information before appointment.

I wish Sami nothing but the best of luck (something that was lacking during Oscar's tenure) and I'm confident that the fans will give him their full support - apart from the obvious but overly vocal few on here who don't need naming but who think they know more about what is good for B&HA than TB and the Board.

SH has proven pedigree as a player at the highest level and that is where he will want to be operating as a manager, no doubt. I have no concerns that he was sacked from Bayer Leverkusen - they are a top level outfit and his appointment by them shows that they saw something of what TB sees now. Taking them to 4th in the Bundesligge isn't so shabby is it?

Now looking forward to the preseason unraveling to see who he is able to retain, who he can bring to the Amex, and how he can get our team to gel and perform in what will, again, be an enormously challenging league. If SH can take us to the playoffs again this season that would be a significant achievement. For me, 2015/16 should be his target year for a real promotion push, when he has had 12 months to shape his own team and system... but I'd accept 2014/15 if it happens!!

Welcome Sami. I hope you and all of us enjoy the ride and I hope that you see your contract through to the end and sign a new one as a Premiership manager... WITH US!!!

UTA!!

Glad that the managerial merry go round has finally stopped spinning.
Not my personal first choice (and, in fairness, not many people would say he was until it came down to a two man race), but very happy that TB and the board seem to have gone through a thorough vetting process and Hyypiä seems to have done the same. Now everyone starts with a clean sheet and no excuses about lack of information before appointment.
I wish Sami nothing but the best of luck (something that was lacking during Oscar's tenure) and I'm confident that the fans will give him their full support - apart from the obvious but overly vocal few on here who don't need naming but who think they know more about what is good for B&HA than TB and the Board.
SH has proven pedigree as a player at the highest level and that is where he will want to be operating as a manager, no doubt. I have no concerns that he was sacked from Bayer Leverkusen - they are a top level outfit and his appointment by them shows that they saw something of what TB sees now. Taking them to 4th in the Bundesligge isn't so shabby is it?
Now looking forward to the preseason unraveling to see who he is able to retain, who he can bring to the Amex, and how he can get our team to gel and perform in what will, again, be an enormously challenging league. If SH can take us to the playoffs again this season that would be a significant achievement. For me, 2015/16 should be his target year for a real promotion push, when he has had 12 months to shape his own team and system... but I'd accept 2014/15 if it happens!!
Welcome Sami. I hope you and all of us enjoy the ride and I hope that you see your contract through to the end and sign a new one as a Premiership manager... WITH US!!!
UTA!!Singing Seagull, Indonesia

Glad that the managerial merry go round has finally stopped spinning.

Not my personal first choice (and, in fairness, not many people would say he was until it came down to a two man race), but very happy that TB and the board seem to have gone through a thorough vetting process and Hyypiä seems to have done the same. Now everyone starts with a clean sheet and no excuses about lack of information before appointment.

I wish Sami nothing but the best of luck (something that was lacking during Oscar's tenure) and I'm confident that the fans will give him their full support - apart from the obvious but overly vocal few on here who don't need naming but who think they know more about what is good for B&HA than TB and the Board.

SH has proven pedigree as a player at the highest level and that is where he will want to be operating as a manager, no doubt. I have no concerns that he was sacked from Bayer Leverkusen - they are a top level outfit and his appointment by them shows that they saw something of what TB sees now. Taking them to 4th in the Bundesligge isn't so shabby is it?

Now looking forward to the preseason unraveling to see who he is able to retain, who he can bring to the Amex, and how he can get our team to gel and perform in what will, again, be an enormously challenging league. If SH can take us to the playoffs again this season that would be a significant achievement. For me, 2015/16 should be his target year for a real promotion push, when he has had 12 months to shape his own team and system... but I'd accept 2014/15 if it happens!!

Welcome Sami. I hope you and all of us enjoy the ride and I hope that you see your contract through to the end and sign a new one as a Premiership manager... WITH US!!!

UTA!!

Score: 76

Far gull
7:25am Sat 7 Jun 14

Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.

Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.Far gull

Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.

Score: 17

Singing Seagull, Indonesia
7:35am Sat 7 Jun 14

Oh, and I meant to say...

For all those who are whining about another non-British appointment, there are no language issues here. And playing 10 years for our Scouse friends and being accepted as a hero by them, kinda makes him an honorary Brit in my eyes!!

UTA!!

Oh, and I meant to say...
For all those who are whining about another non-British appointment, there are no language issues here. And playing 10 years for our Scouse friends and being accepted as a hero by them, kinda makes him an honorary Brit in my eyes!!
UTA!!Singing Seagull, Indonesia

Oh, and I meant to say...

For all those who are whining about another non-British appointment, there are no language issues here. And playing 10 years for our Scouse friends and being accepted as a hero by them, kinda makes him an honorary Brit in my eyes!!

UTA!!

Score: 31

Captain Haddock
10:34am Sat 7 Jun 14

namgo49 wrote…

12 hours in to the job and no signings yet, unimpressed!

Haha!

(I'm assuming that WAS tongue-in-cheek?!)

[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote:
12 hours in to the job and no signings yet, unimpressed![/p][/quote]Haha!
(I'm assuming that WAS tongue-in-cheek?!)Captain Haddock

namgo49 wrote…

12 hours in to the job and no signings yet, unimpressed!

Haha!

(I'm assuming that WAS tongue-in-cheek?!)

Score: 0

Albion In Staffs
8:06am Sat 7 Jun 14

A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....

We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.

A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....
We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.Albion In Staffs

A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....

We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.

Score: 58

namgo49
8:14am Sat 7 Jun 14

12 hours in to the job and no signings yet, unimpressed!

12 hours in to the job and no signings yet, unimpressed!namgo49

12 hours in to the job and no signings yet, unimpressed!

Score: 4

Max Ripple
9:09am Sat 7 Jun 14

namgo49 wrote…

12 hours in to the job and no signings yet, unimpressed!

Ha - if he'd made any signings already we'd be saying "He can do this job in his sleep!" Rock on Sammi! UTA,!

[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote:
12 hours in to the job and no signings yet, unimpressed![/p][/quote]Ha - if he'd made any signings already we'd be saying "He can do this job in his sleep!" Rock on Sammi! UTA,!Max Ripple

namgo49 wrote…

12 hours in to the job and no signings yet, unimpressed!

Ha - if he'd made any signings already we'd be saying "He can do this job in his sleep!" Rock on Sammi! UTA,!

Score: 4

Albion In Staffs
8:29am Sat 7 Jun 14

mark by the sea wrote…

Albion In Staffs wrote…

A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....

We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.

Sami has good credentials , and we all want him to do well,
The next 3-4 weeks will show the ambition of TB in terms of budget.
If we sign players who don't excite us, and are out of the Andrews mould , sami will need a miracle, I will no doubt get thumbs down ,but look at the way Cardiff , norwich have started building from a extremely strong position, Derby will be stronger, Wigan, Boro and Fulham ... Unless we replace like for like then sami will need to do wonders in the loan market.
Let's get behind the club whatever , and the support at the Amex needs to wake up.

MBTS, that was exactly my point and yes, I agree.. Whichever way it shapes, we'll see it coming, so for now, we hold on and enjoy the ride.
My own opinion is that if we have done our homework correctly, then I think we've got a chance. But that's as far as it goes right now and it would be the same for whoever got the nod.

[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote:
A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....
We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.[/p][/quote]Sami has good credentials , and we all want him to do well,
The next 3-4 weeks will show the ambition of TB in terms of budget.
If we sign players who don't excite us, and are out of the Andrews mould , sami will need a miracle, I will no doubt get thumbs down ,but look at the way Cardiff , norwich have started building from a extremely strong position, Derby will be stronger, Wigan, Boro and Fulham ... Unless we replace like for like then sami will need to do wonders in the loan market.
Let's get behind the club whatever , and the support at the Amex needs to wake up.[/p][/quote]MBTS, that was exactly my point and yes, I agree.. Whichever way it shapes, we'll see it coming, so for now, we hold on and enjoy the ride.
My own opinion is that if we have done our homework correctly, then I think we've got a chance. But that's as far as it goes right now and it would be the same for whoever got the nod.Albion In Staffs

mark by the sea wrote…

Albion In Staffs wrote…

A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....

We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.

Sami has good credentials , and we all want him to do well,
The next 3-4 weeks will show the ambition of TB in terms of budget.
If we sign players who don't excite us, and are out of the Andrews mould , sami will need a miracle, I will no doubt get thumbs down ,but look at the way Cardiff , norwich have started building from a extremely strong position, Derby will be stronger, Wigan, Boro and Fulham ... Unless we replace like for like then sami will need to do wonders in the loan market.
Let's get behind the club whatever , and the support at the Amex needs to wake up.

MBTS, that was exactly my point and yes, I agree.. Whichever way it shapes, we'll see it coming, so for now, we hold on and enjoy the ride.
My own opinion is that if we have done our homework correctly, then I think we've got a chance. But that's as far as it goes right now and it would be the same for whoever got the nod.

Score: 8

namgo49
8:30am Sat 7 Jun 14

mark by the sea wrote…

Albion In Staffs wrote…

A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....

We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.

Sami has good credentials , and we all want him to do well,
The next 3-4 weeks will show the ambition of TB in terms of budget.
If we sign players who don't excite us, and are out of the Andrews mould , sami will need a miracle, I will no doubt get thumbs down ,but look at the way Cardiff , norwich have started building from a extremely strong position, Derby will be stronger, Wigan, Boro and Fulham ... Unless we replace like for like then sami will need to do wonders in the loan market.
Let's get behind the club whatever , and the support at the Amex needs to wake up.

The club will get my thumbs up if they re-sign Ward. A quality player but expensive on the wages front. Too, we need a decent goalkeeper, Speroni or Federici would be my choices. Centre back, the guy from Yeovil looked pretty good. Midfield, amongst others give Orlandi another year. Fit, he is a top player. Etc etc etc

[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote:
A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....
We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.[/p][/quote]Sami has good credentials , and we all want him to do well,
The next 3-4 weeks will show the ambition of TB in terms of budget.
If we sign players who don't excite us, and are out of the Andrews mould , sami will need a miracle, I will no doubt get thumbs down ,but look at the way Cardiff , norwich have started building from a extremely strong position, Derby will be stronger, Wigan, Boro and Fulham ... Unless we replace like for like then sami will need to do wonders in the loan market.
Let's get behind the club whatever , and the support at the Amex needs to wake up.[/p][/quote]The club will get my thumbs up if they re-sign Ward. A quality player but expensive on the wages front. Too, we need a decent goalkeeper, Speroni or Federici would be my choices. Centre back, the guy from Yeovil looked pretty good. Midfield, amongst others give Orlandi another year. Fit, he is a top player. Etc etc etcnamgo49

mark by the sea wrote…

Albion In Staffs wrote…

A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....

We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.

Sami has good credentials , and we all want him to do well,
The next 3-4 weeks will show the ambition of TB in terms of budget.
If we sign players who don't excite us, and are out of the Andrews mould , sami will need a miracle, I will no doubt get thumbs down ,but look at the way Cardiff , norwich have started building from a extremely strong position, Derby will be stronger, Wigan, Boro and Fulham ... Unless we replace like for like then sami will need to do wonders in the loan market.
Let's get behind the club whatever , and the support at the Amex needs to wake up.

The club will get my thumbs up if they re-sign Ward. A quality player but expensive on the wages front. Too, we need a decent goalkeeper, Speroni or Federici would be my choices. Centre back, the guy from Yeovil looked pretty good. Midfield, amongst others give Orlandi another year. Fit, he is a top player. Etc etc etc

Score: 4

East of CrawleyDown
8:32am Sat 7 Jun 14

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.East of CrawleyDown

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

Score: -8

mark by the sea
9:04am Sat 7 Jun 14

Albion In Staffs wrote…

pablobrowno wrote…

I would suggest Orlandi won't be coming back. Change has arrived and the Latin American/Spanish experiment is over. Cue players with physical strength and power, more direct. Crofty could be fantastic if back in the same form as last year. The new Grasshopper lad could be excellent, in the Bridcutt mould for sure. Most importantly for me is the Hyypia, like Poyet, commands respect in the UK after a massively successful career here as a player, the players will be attracted to this. A very similar appointment to Poyet but comes with experience at the top level as a manager. Fantastic Appointment.

Not sure Hyypia will change the basic style that much? I reckon that would have been part of the overall criteria and a reason why Jones is staying on. Consistency in a approach, reliance on the passing style (he played 10 years at Liverpool remember) with perhaps, and hopefully, the odd obvious tweak?

The Burke show needs to get rolling,
OG took over with a full squad and two or three to come back from injury,
SH needs a keeper, two central defenders , left back, creative mid, winger who can deliver a cross , and at least one forward ,
I worry that we don't have a chief scout either,
I would take top 6 right now .

[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote:
I would suggest Orlandi won't be coming back. Change has arrived and the Latin American/Spanish experiment is over. Cue players with physical strength and power, more direct. Crofty could be fantastic if back in the same form as last year. The new Grasshopper lad could be excellent, in the Bridcutt mould for sure. Most importantly for me is the Hyypia, like Poyet, commands respect in the UK after a massively successful career here as a player, the players will be attracted to this. A very similar appointment to Poyet but comes with experience at the top level as a manager. Fantastic Appointment.[/p][/quote]Not sure Hyypia will change the basic style that much? I reckon that would have been part of the overall criteria and a reason why Jones is staying on. Consistency in a approach, reliance on the passing style (he played 10 years at Liverpool remember) with perhaps, and hopefully, the odd obvious tweak?[/p][/quote]The Burke show needs to get rolling,
OG took over with a full squad and two or three to come back from injury,
SH needs a keeper, two central defenders , left back, creative mid, winger who can deliver a cross , and at least one forward ,
I worry that we don't have a chief scout either,
I would take top 6 right now .mark by the sea

Albion In Staffs wrote…

pablobrowno wrote…

I would suggest Orlandi won't be coming back. Change has arrived and the Latin American/Spanish experiment is over. Cue players with physical strength and power, more direct. Crofty could be fantastic if back in the same form as last year. The new Grasshopper lad could be excellent, in the Bridcutt mould for sure. Most importantly for me is the Hyypia, like Poyet, commands respect in the UK after a massively successful career here as a player, the players will be attracted to this. A very similar appointment to Poyet but comes with experience at the top level as a manager. Fantastic Appointment.

Not sure Hyypia will change the basic style that much? I reckon that would have been part of the overall criteria and a reason why Jones is staying on. Consistency in a approach, reliance on the passing style (he played 10 years at Liverpool remember) with perhaps, and hopefully, the odd obvious tweak?

The Burke show needs to get rolling,
OG took over with a full squad and two or three to come back from injury,
SH needs a keeper, two central defenders , left back, creative mid, winger who can deliver a cross , and at least one forward ,
I worry that we don't have a chief scout either,
I would take top 6 right now .

Score: 4

pablobrowno
8:44am Sat 7 Jun 14

I would suggest Orlandi won't be coming back. Change has arrived and the Latin American/Spanish experiment is over. Cue players with physical strength and power, more direct. Crofty could be fantastic if back in the same form as last year. The new Grasshopper lad could be excellent, in the Bridcutt mould for sure. Most importantly for me is the Hyypia, like Poyet, commands respect in the UK after a massively successful career here as a player, the players will be attracted to this. A very similar appointment to Poyet but comes with experience at the top level as a manager. Fantastic Appointment.

I would suggest Orlandi won't be coming back. Change has arrived and the Latin American/Spanish experiment is over. Cue players with physical strength and power, more direct. Crofty could be fantastic if back in the same form as last year. The new Grasshopper lad could be excellent, in the Bridcutt mould for sure. Most importantly for me is the Hyypia, like Poyet, commands respect in the UK after a massively successful career here as a player, the players will be attracted to this. A very similar appointment to Poyet but comes with experience at the top level as a manager. Fantastic Appointment.pablobrowno

I would suggest Orlandi won't be coming back. Change has arrived and the Latin American/Spanish experiment is over. Cue players with physical strength and power, more direct. Crofty could be fantastic if back in the same form as last year. The new Grasshopper lad could be excellent, in the Bridcutt mould for sure. Most importantly for me is the Hyypia, like Poyet, commands respect in the UK after a massively successful career here as a player, the players will be attracted to this. A very similar appointment to Poyet but comes with experience at the top level as a manager. Fantastic Appointment.

Score: 27

Albion In Staffs
8:51am Sat 7 Jun 14

pablobrowno wrote…

I would suggest Orlandi won't be coming back. Change has arrived and the Latin American/Spanish experiment is over. Cue players with physical strength and power, more direct. Crofty could be fantastic if back in the same form as last year. The new Grasshopper lad could be excellent, in the Bridcutt mould for sure. Most importantly for me is the Hyypia, like Poyet, commands respect in the UK after a massively successful career here as a player, the players will be attracted to this. A very similar appointment to Poyet but comes with experience at the top level as a manager. Fantastic Appointment.

Not sure Hyypia will change the basic style that much? I reckon that would have been part of the overall criteria and a reason why Jones is staying on. Consistency in a approach, reliance on the passing style (he played 10 years at Liverpool remember) with perhaps, and hopefully, the odd obvious tweak?

[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote:
I would suggest Orlandi won't be coming back. Change has arrived and the Latin American/Spanish experiment is over. Cue players with physical strength and power, more direct. Crofty could be fantastic if back in the same form as last year. The new Grasshopper lad could be excellent, in the Bridcutt mould for sure. Most importantly for me is the Hyypia, like Poyet, commands respect in the UK after a massively successful career here as a player, the players will be attracted to this. A very similar appointment to Poyet but comes with experience at the top level as a manager. Fantastic Appointment.[/p][/quote]Not sure Hyypia will change the basic style that much? I reckon that would have been part of the overall criteria and a reason why Jones is staying on. Consistency in a approach, reliance on the passing style (he played 10 years at Liverpool remember) with perhaps, and hopefully, the odd obvious tweak?Albion In Staffs

pablobrowno wrote…

I would suggest Orlandi won't be coming back. Change has arrived and the Latin American/Spanish experiment is over. Cue players with physical strength and power, more direct. Crofty could be fantastic if back in the same form as last year. The new Grasshopper lad could be excellent, in the Bridcutt mould for sure. Most importantly for me is the Hyypia, like Poyet, commands respect in the UK after a massively successful career here as a player, the players will be attracted to this. A very similar appointment to Poyet but comes with experience at the top level as a manager. Fantastic Appointment.

Not sure Hyypia will change the basic style that much? I reckon that would have been part of the overall criteria and a reason why Jones is staying on. Consistency in a approach, reliance on the passing style (he played 10 years at Liverpool remember) with perhaps, and hopefully, the odd obvious tweak?

Score: 3

Conelli98
9:14am Sat 7 Jun 14

pablobrowno wrote…

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

Haha only in your dreams will we sign Danny Ings. He will be a Prem player through and through. If he leaves Burnley it will be to Leicester or Qpr I reckon!

[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote:
Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.[/p][/quote]Haha only in your dreams will we sign Danny Ings. He will be a Prem player through and through. If he leaves Burnley it will be to Leicester or Qpr I reckon![/p][/quote]Realistically let's keep Ulloa, keep CMS fit, sign Becchio and Frazer Campell along with Gabbidon and Parr from Palace.😄Conelli98

pablobrowno wrote…

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

Haha only in your dreams will we sign Danny Ings. He will be a Prem player through and through. If he leaves Burnley it will be to Leicester or Qpr I reckon!

pablobrowno wrote:
I would suggest Orlandi won't be coming back. Change has arrived and the Latin American/Spanish experiment is over. Cue players with physical strength and power, more direct. Crofty could be fantastic if back in the same form as last year. The new Grasshopper lad could be excellent, in the Bridcutt mould for sure. Most importantly for me is the Hyypia, like Poyet, commands respect in the UK after a massively successful career here as a player, the players will be attracted to this. A very similar appointment to Poyet but comes with experience at the top level as a manager. Fantastic Appointment.
Not sure Hyypia will change the basic style that much? I reckon that would have been part of the overall criteria and a reason why Jones is staying on. Consistency in a approach, reliance on the passing style (he played 10 years at Liverpool remember) with perhaps, and hopefully, the odd obvious tweak?The Burke show needs to get rolling,
OG took over with a full squad and two or three to come back from injury,
SH needs a keeper, two central defenders , left back, creative mid, winger who can deliver a cross , and at least one forward ,
I worry that we don't have a chief scout either,
I would take top 6 right now .

Yeah? That's funny, 'coz we finished sixth last season and you never quit whingeing. Face it Mark if we finished top you'd still find something to moan about. Just that sort of person you are I guess.

mark by the sea says...
Albion In Staffs wrote:
pablobrowno wrote:
I would suggest Orlandi won't be coming back. Change has arrived and the Latin American/Spanish experiment is over. Cue players with physical strength and power, more direct. Crofty could be fantastic if back in the same form as last year. The new Grasshopper lad could be excellent, in the Bridcutt mould for sure. Most importantly for me is the Hyypia, like Poyet, commands respect in the UK after a massively successful career here as a player, the players will be attracted to this. A very similar appointment to Poyet but comes with experience at the top level as a manager. Fantastic Appointment.
Not sure Hyypia will change the basic style that much? I reckon that would have been part of the overall criteria and a reason why Jones is staying on. Consistency in a approach, reliance on the passing style (he played 10 years at Liverpool remember) with perhaps, and hopefully, the odd obvious tweak?The Burke show needs to get rolling,
OG took over with a full squad and two or three to come back from injury,
SH needs a keeper, two central defenders , left back, creative mid, winger who can deliver a cross , and at least one forward ,
I worry that we don't have a chief scout either,
I would take top 6 right now .
Yeah? That's funny, 'coz we finished sixth last season and you never quit whingeing. Face it Mark if we finished top you'd still find something to moan about. Just that sort of person you are I guess.B rian Tawses left foot

mark by the sea says...

Albion In Staffs wrote:

pablobrowno wrote:
I would suggest Orlandi won't be coming back. Change has arrived and the Latin American/Spanish experiment is over. Cue players with physical strength and power, more direct. Crofty could be fantastic if back in the same form as last year. The new Grasshopper lad could be excellent, in the Bridcutt mould for sure. Most importantly for me is the Hyypia, like Poyet, commands respect in the UK after a massively successful career here as a player, the players will be attracted to this. A very similar appointment to Poyet but comes with experience at the top level as a manager. Fantastic Appointment.
Not sure Hyypia will change the basic style that much? I reckon that would have been part of the overall criteria and a reason why Jones is staying on. Consistency in a approach, reliance on the passing style (he played 10 years at Liverpool remember) with perhaps, and hopefully, the odd obvious tweak?The Burke show needs to get rolling,
OG took over with a full squad and two or three to come back from injury,
SH needs a keeper, two central defenders , left back, creative mid, winger who can deliver a cross , and at least one forward ,
I worry that we don't have a chief scout either,
I would take top 6 right now .

Yeah? That's funny, 'coz we finished sixth last season and you never quit whingeing. Face it Mark if we finished top you'd still find something to moan about. Just that sort of person you are I guess.

Score: 4

Grummitt
10:01am Sat 7 Jun 14

TheDuke1 wrote…

Hugely concerned about this decision. Sami has sole charge of Bayen Leverkusen for less than a year and got sacked and that his managerial career, other than a short period in a duel management role. A lot of the other names linked to the job included many managers with better CV's,some of which had successfully got clubs promoted to the Premiership.
I also do not understand keeping NJ, surely this should be the managers decision, not a decision made for him.
This stinks of cheap cheap cheap.
I do wonder if TB feels he has overspent over the last few years and it is now time to cut-back. The players who have left the club over the last year indicate this. And of course, the last 2 managers stated that they did not feel supported by the board around the times they both left.
Happy to eat humble pie when we are top at xmas.....

If we had drawn up a short list excluding those managers sacked from their previous employment there would have been no short list apart from the two French guys who both resigned. I am not to overly concerned about Jones either, as it is quite clear he has taken on a much dumbed down role from last year. All the reports suggest that Hyypia will bring in his own man as Assistant Manager, NJ as we are lead to believe will be the First Team Coach the same title given to Oatway (now there was a talentless buffoon) he will have much more of a back room role, be the managers eyes and ears in the dressing room and a friendly face that the players can go to to air any grievances. A role I can see Calde taking on in the future.

[quote][p][bold]TheDuke1[/bold] wrote:
Hugely concerned about this decision. Sami has sole charge of Bayen Leverkusen for less than a year and got sacked and that his managerial career, other than a short period in a duel management role. A lot of the other names linked to the job included many managers with better CV's,some of which had successfully got clubs promoted to the Premiership.
I also do not understand keeping NJ, surely this should be the managers decision, not a decision made for him.
This stinks of cheap cheap cheap.
I do wonder if TB feels he has overspent over the last few years and it is now time to cut-back. The players who have left the club over the last year indicate this. And of course, the last 2 managers stated that they did not feel supported by the board around the times they both left.
Happy to eat humble pie when we are top at xmas.....[/p][/quote]If we had drawn up a short list excluding those managers sacked from their previous employment there would have been no short list apart from the two French guys who both resigned. I am not to overly concerned about Jones either, as it is quite clear he has taken on a much dumbed down role from last year. All the reports suggest that Hyypia will bring in his own man as Assistant Manager, NJ as we are lead to believe will be the First Team Coach the same title given to Oatway (now there was a talentless buffoon) he will have much more of a back room role, be the managers eyes and ears in the dressing room and a friendly face that the players can go to to air any grievances. A role I can see Calde taking on in the future.Grummitt

TheDuke1 wrote…

Hugely concerned about this decision. Sami has sole charge of Bayen Leverkusen for less than a year and got sacked and that his managerial career, other than a short period in a duel management role. A lot of the other names linked to the job included many managers with better CV's,some of which had successfully got clubs promoted to the Premiership.
I also do not understand keeping NJ, surely this should be the managers decision, not a decision made for him.
This stinks of cheap cheap cheap.
I do wonder if TB feels he has overspent over the last few years and it is now time to cut-back. The players who have left the club over the last year indicate this. And of course, the last 2 managers stated that they did not feel supported by the board around the times they both left.
Happy to eat humble pie when we are top at xmas.....

If we had drawn up a short list excluding those managers sacked from their previous employment there would have been no short list apart from the two French guys who both resigned. I am not to overly concerned about Jones either, as it is quite clear he has taken on a much dumbed down role from last year. All the reports suggest that Hyypia will bring in his own man as Assistant Manager, NJ as we are lead to believe will be the First Team Coach the same title given to Oatway (now there was a talentless buffoon) he will have much more of a back room role, be the managers eyes and ears in the dressing room and a friendly face that the players can go to to air any grievances. A role I can see Calde taking on in the future.

Score: 9

East of CrawleyDown
10:07am Sat 7 Jun 14

pablobrowno wrote…

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

Haha only in your dreams will we sign Danny Ings. He will be a Prem player through and through. If he leaves Burnley it will be to Leicester or Qpr I reckon!

There will be players who did well in the championship who will not be guaranteed a regular place in the prem, Burnley now have money to spend and will beef up their squad. Ings is the sort of player who probably won't want to be a bench warmer and might relish a chance of regular football at an ambitious club. This is the sort of activity which will show the ambition mentioned in the article. Would love us to go for Ross McCormack of Leeds, but I see he has had bids around the 10 million mark from premier clubs, so probably a bit too much even if we sell Ulloa. We paid 3.25 million for CMS and we haven't really had our money's worth, we should be able to get one or two players in the 4-5 million bracket such as Ings which will get a guaranteed championship goalscorer, plus other quality additions, if Ulloa ends up being sold. it would certainly be a statement of intent anyway.

[quote][p][bold]pablobrowno[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote:
Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.[/p][/quote]Haha only in your dreams will we sign Danny Ings. He will be a Prem player through and through. If he leaves Burnley it will be to Leicester or Qpr I reckon![/p][/quote]There will be players who did well in the championship who will not be guaranteed a regular place in the prem, Burnley now have money to spend and will beef up their squad. Ings is the sort of player who probably won't want to be a bench warmer and might relish a chance of regular football at an ambitious club. This is the sort of activity which will show the ambition mentioned in the article. Would love us to go for Ross McCormack of Leeds, but I see he has had bids around the 10 million mark from premier clubs, so probably a bit too much even if we sell Ulloa. We paid 3.25 million for CMS and we haven't really had our money's worth, we should be able to get one or two players in the 4-5 million bracket such as Ings which will get a guaranteed championship goalscorer, plus other quality additions, if Ulloa ends up being sold. it would certainly be a statement of intent anyway.East of CrawleyDown

pablobrowno wrote…

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

Haha only in your dreams will we sign Danny Ings. He will be a Prem player through and through. If he leaves Burnley it will be to Leicester or Qpr I reckon!

There will be players who did well in the championship who will not be guaranteed a regular place in the prem, Burnley now have money to spend and will beef up their squad. Ings is the sort of player who probably won't want to be a bench warmer and might relish a chance of regular football at an ambitious club. This is the sort of activity which will show the ambition mentioned in the article. Would love us to go for Ross McCormack of Leeds, but I see he has had bids around the 10 million mark from premier clubs, so probably a bit too much even if we sell Ulloa. We paid 3.25 million for CMS and we haven't really had our money's worth, we should be able to get one or two players in the 4-5 million bracket such as Ings which will get a guaranteed championship goalscorer, plus other quality additions, if Ulloa ends up being sold. it would certainly be a statement of intent anyway.

Score: -3

East of CrawleyDown
11:47am Sat 7 Jun 14

Captain Haddock wrote…

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

We have absolutely no chance of signing Danny ings. He will be a first team regular and his transfer value is out of our advised range.

I read that he may be not guaranteed a regular place due to new signings influx with Burnleys new found cash. Just thought we could steal a march on everybody, yes he would be pricey, but how pricey is too pricey? 5 million should be viable especially if we sell Ulloa, but he and Ulloa would make a good strikeforce, the sort of strikeforce which would probably win promotion, all depends what our transfer budget is and how much Bloom wants to push it I guess. It would be nice not to rely on freebies and loans so much. Also signing quality players would draw in more quality players, could build a squad capsble of winning the championship.

[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote:
Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.[/p][/quote]We have absolutely no chance of signing Danny ings. He will be a first team regular and his transfer value is out of our advised range.[/p][/quote]I read that he may be not guaranteed a regular place due to new signings influx with Burnleys new found cash. Just thought we could steal a march on everybody, yes he would be pricey, but how pricey is too pricey? 5 million should be viable especially if we sell Ulloa, but he and Ulloa would make a good strikeforce, the sort of strikeforce which would probably win promotion, all depends what our transfer budget is and how much Bloom wants to push it I guess. It would be nice not to rely on freebies and loans so much. Also signing quality players would draw in more quality players, could build a squad capsble of winning the championship.East of CrawleyDown

Captain Haddock wrote…

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

We have absolutely no chance of signing Danny ings. He will be a first team regular and his transfer value is out of our advised range.

I read that he may be not guaranteed a regular place due to new signings influx with Burnleys new found cash. Just thought we could steal a march on everybody, yes he would be pricey, but how pricey is too pricey? 5 million should be viable especially if we sell Ulloa, but he and Ulloa would make a good strikeforce, the sort of strikeforce which would probably win promotion, all depends what our transfer budget is and how much Bloom wants to push it I guess. It would be nice not to rely on freebies and loans so much. Also signing quality players would draw in more quality players, could build a squad capsble of winning the championship.

Score: -2

Captain Haddock
10:30am Sat 7 Jun 14

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote…

Glad that the managerial merry go round has finally stopped spinning.

Not my personal first choice (and, in fairness, not many people would say he was until it came down to a two man race), but very happy that TB and the board seem to have gone through a thorough vetting process and Hyypiä seems to have done the same. Now everyone starts with a clean sheet and no excuses about lack of information before appointment.

I wish Sami nothing but the best of luck (something that was lacking during Oscar's tenure) and I'm confident that the fans will give him their full support - apart from the obvious but overly vocal few on here who don't need naming but who think they know more about what is good for B&HA than TB and the Board.

SH has proven pedigree as a player at the highest level and that is where he will want to be operating as a manager, no doubt. I have no concerns that he was sacked from Bayer Leverkusen - they are a top level outfit and his appointment by them shows that they saw something of what TB sees now. Taking them to 4th in the Bundesligge isn't so shabby is it?

Now looking forward to the preseason unraveling to see who he is able to retain, who he can bring to the Amex, and how he can get our team to gel and perform in what will, again, be an enormously challenging league. If SH can take us to the playoffs again this season that would be a significant achievement. For me, 2015/16 should be his target year for a real promotion push, when he has had 12 months to shape his own team and system... but I'd accept 2014/15 if it happens!!

Welcome Sami. I hope you and all of us enjoy the ride and I hope that you see your contract through to the end and sign a new one as a Premiership manager... WITH US!!!

UTA!!

I think that sums it up perfectly. No need for me to add any more to that.

[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote:
Glad that the managerial merry go round has finally stopped spinning.
Not my personal first choice (and, in fairness, not many people would say he was until it came down to a two man race), but very happy that TB and the board seem to have gone through a thorough vetting process and Hyypiä seems to have done the same. Now everyone starts with a clean sheet and no excuses about lack of information before appointment.
I wish Sami nothing but the best of luck (something that was lacking during Oscar's tenure) and I'm confident that the fans will give him their full support - apart from the obvious but overly vocal few on here who don't need naming but who think they know more about what is good for B&HA than TB and the Board.
SH has proven pedigree as a player at the highest level and that is where he will want to be operating as a manager, no doubt. I have no concerns that he was sacked from Bayer Leverkusen - they are a top level outfit and his appointment by them shows that they saw something of what TB sees now. Taking them to 4th in the Bundesligge isn't so shabby is it?
Now looking forward to the preseason unraveling to see who he is able to retain, who he can bring to the Amex, and how he can get our team to gel and perform in what will, again, be an enormously challenging league. If SH can take us to the playoffs again this season that would be a significant achievement. For me, 2015/16 should be his target year for a real promotion push, when he has had 12 months to shape his own team and system... but I'd accept 2014/15 if it happens!!
Welcome Sami. I hope you and all of us enjoy the ride and I hope that you see your contract through to the end and sign a new one as a Premiership manager... WITH US!!!
UTA!![/p][/quote]I think that sums it up perfectly. No need for me to add any more to that.Captain Haddock

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote…

Glad that the managerial merry go round has finally stopped spinning.

Not my personal first choice (and, in fairness, not many people would say he was until it came down to a two man race), but very happy that TB and the board seem to have gone through a thorough vetting process and Hyypiä seems to have done the same. Now everyone starts with a clean sheet and no excuses about lack of information before appointment.

I wish Sami nothing but the best of luck (something that was lacking during Oscar's tenure) and I'm confident that the fans will give him their full support - apart from the obvious but overly vocal few on here who don't need naming but who think they know more about what is good for B&HA than TB and the Board.

SH has proven pedigree as a player at the highest level and that is where he will want to be operating as a manager, no doubt. I have no concerns that he was sacked from Bayer Leverkusen - they are a top level outfit and his appointment by them shows that they saw something of what TB sees now. Taking them to 4th in the Bundesligge isn't so shabby is it?

Now looking forward to the preseason unraveling to see who he is able to retain, who he can bring to the Amex, and how he can get our team to gel and perform in what will, again, be an enormously challenging league. If SH can take us to the playoffs again this season that would be a significant achievement. For me, 2015/16 should be his target year for a real promotion push, when he has had 12 months to shape his own team and system... but I'd accept 2014/15 if it happens!!

Welcome Sami. I hope you and all of us enjoy the ride and I hope that you see your contract through to the end and sign a new one as a Premiership manager... WITH US!!!

UTA!!

I think that sums it up perfectly. No need for me to add any more to that.

Score: 5

keswick
11:20am Sat 7 Jun 14

Far gull wrote…

Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.

You make extremely good points in a well written piece. Shame some on here are incapable of doing the same. Interesting one about TK and he would not have done himself much good with his end of season performances. He is at best a Championship player or Premier bench warmer. Point is would we want him back now or get someone in who actually wants to play for the club ? I know what my preference would be.

[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote:
Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.[/p][/quote]You make extremely good points in a well written piece. Shame some on here are incapable of doing the same. Interesting one about TK and he would not have done himself much good with his end of season performances. He is at best a Championship player or Premier bench warmer. Point is would we want him back now or get someone in who actually wants to play for the club ? I know what my preference would be.keswick

Far gull wrote…

Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.

You make extremely good points in a well written piece. Shame some on here are incapable of doing the same. Interesting one about TK and he would not have done himself much good with his end of season performances. He is at best a Championship player or Premier bench warmer. Point is would we want him back now or get someone in who actually wants to play for the club ? I know what my preference would be.

Score: 4

Captain Haddock
10:36am Sat 7 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

We have absolutely no chance of signing Danny ings. He will be a first team regular and his transfer value is out of our advised range.

[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote:
Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.[/p][/quote]We have absolutely no chance of signing Danny ings. He will be a first team regular and his transfer value is out of our advised range.Captain Haddock

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

We have absolutely no chance of signing Danny ings. He will be a first team regular and his transfer value is out of our advised range.

Score: 5

To baldly go
10:38am Sat 7 Jun 14

Having read all the posts from last night onwards, this appointment is already splitting peoples opinions, I for one, am on the not sure side! His one year managing at BL was with an inherited side and it remains to be seen what sort of team HE can build and the style of play he brings. I will give him my full support yes, but will need to see a much more attacking style of football/entertainme
nt, I mention entertainment because that's what gets us going, not the tippy tappy possession game which saw us all frustrated towards the end of last season and the dull atmosphere at the Amex some have mentioned.
As for players coming in, if the budget had been available, Poyet and Garcia would have used it and either of them possibly still been here and us in the prem. So I expect a few players coming in on the so called free transfer as it were and a few unknowns bought from abroad. We may get one or two high profile loans in but not until the last day of the window imo.
Surprised at NJ staying on, but see it as him being used to communicate the strengths and weakness of each player to SH before he brings in his own man.
What control SH will have is another question, the last two managers left because of lack of control in my opinion and it remains to be seen how He handles the restrictions placed upon him.
Overall, not excited, but looking forward to see how things progress and will take it from there. UTA

Having read all the posts from last night onwards, this appointment is already splitting peoples opinions, I for one, am on the not sure side! His one year managing at BL was with an inherited side and it remains to be seen what sort of team HE can build and the style of play he brings. I will give him my full support yes, but will need to see a much more attacking style of football/entertainme
nt, I mention entertainment because that's what gets us going, not the tippy tappy possession game which saw us all frustrated towards the end of last season and the dull atmosphere at the Amex some have mentioned.
As for players coming in, if the budget had been available, Poyet and Garcia would have used it and either of them possibly still been here and us in the prem. So I expect a few players coming in on the so called free transfer as it were and a few unknowns bought from abroad. We may get one or two high profile loans in but not until the last day of the window imo.
Surprised at NJ staying on, but see it as him being used to communicate the strengths and weakness of each player to SH before he brings in his own man.
What control SH will have is another question, the last two managers left because of lack of control in my opinion and it remains to be seen how He handles the restrictions placed upon him.
Overall, not excited, but looking forward to see how things progress and will take it from there. UTATo baldly go

Having read all the posts from last night onwards, this appointment is already splitting peoples opinions, I for one, am on the not sure side! His one year managing at BL was with an inherited side and it remains to be seen what sort of team HE can build and the style of play he brings. I will give him my full support yes, but will need to see a much more attacking style of football/entertainme
nt, I mention entertainment because that's what gets us going, not the tippy tappy possession game which saw us all frustrated towards the end of last season and the dull atmosphere at the Amex some have mentioned.
As for players coming in, if the budget had been available, Poyet and Garcia would have used it and either of them possibly still been here and us in the prem. So I expect a few players coming in on the so called free transfer as it were and a few unknowns bought from abroad. We may get one or two high profile loans in but not until the last day of the window imo.
Surprised at NJ staying on, but see it as him being used to communicate the strengths and weakness of each player to SH before he brings in his own man.
What control SH will have is another question, the last two managers left because of lack of control in my opinion and it remains to be seen how He handles the restrictions placed upon him.
Overall, not excited, but looking forward to see how things progress and will take it from there. UTA

Score: 0

Singing Seagull, Indonesia
10:51am Sat 7 Jun 14

Captain Haddock wrote…

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote…

Glad that the managerial merry go round has finally stopped spinning.

Not my personal first choice (and, in fairness, not many people would say he was until it came down to a two man race), but very happy that TB and the board seem to have gone through a thorough vetting process and Hyypiä seems to have done the same. Now everyone starts with a clean sheet and no excuses about lack of information before appointment.

I wish Sami nothing but the best of luck (something that was lacking during Oscar's tenure) and I'm confident that the fans will give him their full support - apart from the obvious but overly vocal few on here who don't need naming but who think they know more about what is good for B&HA than TB and the Board.

SH has proven pedigree as a player at the highest level and that is where he will want to be operating as a manager, no doubt. I have no concerns that he was sacked from Bayer Leverkusen - they are a top level outfit and his appointment by them shows that they saw something of what TB sees now. Taking them to 4th in the Bundesligge isn't so shabby is it?

Now looking forward to the preseason unraveling to see who he is able to retain, who he can bring to the Amex, and how he can get our team to gel and perform in what will, again, be an enormously challenging league. If SH can take us to the playoffs again this season that would be a significant achievement. For me, 2015/16 should be his target year for a real promotion push, when he has had 12 months to shape his own team and system... but I'd accept 2014/15 if it happens!!

Welcome Sami. I hope you and all of us enjoy the ride and I hope that you see your contract through to the end and sign a new one as a Premiership manager... WITH US!!!

UTA!!

I think that sums it up perfectly. No need for me to add any more to that.

Thanks Cap'n. have a great Saturday!

[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Singing Seagull, Indonesia[/bold] wrote:
Glad that the managerial merry go round has finally stopped spinning.
Not my personal first choice (and, in fairness, not many people would say he was until it came down to a two man race), but very happy that TB and the board seem to have gone through a thorough vetting process and Hyypiä seems to have done the same. Now everyone starts with a clean sheet and no excuses about lack of information before appointment.
I wish Sami nothing but the best of luck (something that was lacking during Oscar's tenure) and I'm confident that the fans will give him their full support - apart from the obvious but overly vocal few on here who don't need naming but who think they know more about what is good for B&HA than TB and the Board.
SH has proven pedigree as a player at the highest level and that is where he will want to be operating as a manager, no doubt. I have no concerns that he was sacked from Bayer Leverkusen - they are a top level outfit and his appointment by them shows that they saw something of what TB sees now. Taking them to 4th in the Bundesligge isn't so shabby is it?
Now looking forward to the preseason unraveling to see who he is able to retain, who he can bring to the Amex, and how he can get our team to gel and perform in what will, again, be an enormously challenging league. If SH can take us to the playoffs again this season that would be a significant achievement. For me, 2015/16 should be his target year for a real promotion push, when he has had 12 months to shape his own team and system... but I'd accept 2014/15 if it happens!!
Welcome Sami. I hope you and all of us enjoy the ride and I hope that you see your contract through to the end and sign a new one as a Premiership manager... WITH US!!!
UTA!![/p][/quote]I think that sums it up perfectly. No need for me to add any more to that.[/p][/quote]Thanks Cap'n. have a great Saturday!Singing Seagull, Indonesia

Captain Haddock wrote…

Singing Seagull, Indonesia wrote…

Glad that the managerial merry go round has finally stopped spinning.

Not my personal first choice (and, in fairness, not many people would say he was until it came down to a two man race), but very happy that TB and the board seem to have gone through a thorough vetting process and Hyypiä seems to have done the same. Now everyone starts with a clean sheet and no excuses about lack of information before appointment.

I wish Sami nothing but the best of luck (something that was lacking during Oscar's tenure) and I'm confident that the fans will give him their full support - apart from the obvious but overly vocal few on here who don't need naming but who think they know more about what is good for B&HA than TB and the Board.

SH has proven pedigree as a player at the highest level and that is where he will want to be operating as a manager, no doubt. I have no concerns that he was sacked from Bayer Leverkusen - they are a top level outfit and his appointment by them shows that they saw something of what TB sees now. Taking them to 4th in the Bundesligge isn't so shabby is it?

Now looking forward to the preseason unraveling to see who he is able to retain, who he can bring to the Amex, and how he can get our team to gel and perform in what will, again, be an enormously challenging league. If SH can take us to the playoffs again this season that would be a significant achievement. For me, 2015/16 should be his target year for a real promotion push, when he has had 12 months to shape his own team and system... but I'd accept 2014/15 if it happens!!

Welcome Sami. I hope you and all of us enjoy the ride and I hope that you see your contract through to the end and sign a new one as a Premiership manager... WITH US!!!

UTA!!

I think that sums it up perfectly. No need for me to add any more to that.

Thanks Cap'n. have a great Saturday!

Score: 6

fanxtony
10:49am Sat 7 Jun 14

We are so lucky to have a true fan at the helm of our club ..... who only wants the best for Brighton and Hove Albion ..... no stupid name changing (Hull) ..... no silly colour changing (Cardiff) .... look how far we have come in such a short time ..... it is imperative that we are ready for the Premiership when it happens ..... and it will happen very soon for sure! .... good luck Sami .... well done Tony! ..... UTA .... keep positive .... and stop moaning ..... we have winner in charge!

We are so lucky to have a true fan at the helm of our club ..... who only wants the best for Brighton and Hove Albion ..... no stupid name changing (Hull) ..... no silly colour changing (Cardiff) .... look how far we have come in such a short time ..... it is imperative that we are ready for the Premiership when it happens ..... and it will happen very soon for sure! .... good luck Sami .... well done Tony! ..... UTA .... keep positive .... and stop moaning ..... we have winner in charge!fanxtony

We are so lucky to have a true fan at the helm of our club ..... who only wants the best for Brighton and Hove Albion ..... no stupid name changing (Hull) ..... no silly colour changing (Cardiff) .... look how far we have come in such a short time ..... it is imperative that we are ready for the Premiership when it happens ..... and it will happen very soon for sure! .... good luck Sami .... well done Tony! ..... UTA .... keep positive .... and stop moaning ..... we have winner in charge!

Score: 12

Crucial Point
11:34am Sat 7 Jun 14

Was that the 'Chairman's ambition not to strengthen squad with quality payers' that won him over?

Was that the 'Chairman's ambition not to strengthen squad with quality payers' that won him over?Crucial Point

Was that the 'Chairman's ambition not to strengthen squad with quality payers' that won him over?

Score: -8

Albion In Staffs
11:41am Sat 7 Jun 14

keswick wrote…

Far gull wrote…

Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.

You make extremely good points in a well written piece. Shame some on here are incapable of doing the same. Interesting one about TK and he would not have done himself much good with his end of season performances. He is at best a Championship player or Premier bench warmer. Point is would we want him back now or get someone in who actually wants to play for the club ? I know what my preference would be.

Forget the off-field rumours, supposing he was offered return and said that Hyypia's appointment had given him a level of enthusiasm he wouldn't have otherwise had under the former coaches? Perhaps, for example, he didn't get on with the goalkeeping coach who's now gone? I'd take him back on the basis his performances would probably liven up.
We mustn't forget it's a decision for a Polish lad with no affiliation to BHA other than professional and that shouldn't put people off?

[quote][p][bold]keswick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote:
Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.[/p][/quote]You make extremely good points in a well written piece. Shame some on here are incapable of doing the same. Interesting one about TK and he would not have done himself much good with his end of season performances. He is at best a Championship player or Premier bench warmer. Point is would we want him back now or get someone in who actually wants to play for the club ? I know what my preference would be.[/p][/quote]Forget the off-field rumours, supposing he was offered return and said that Hyypia's appointment had given him a level of enthusiasm he wouldn't have otherwise had under the former coaches? Perhaps, for example, he didn't get on with the goalkeeping coach who's now gone? I'd take him back on the basis his performances would probably liven up.
We mustn't forget it's a decision for a Polish lad with no affiliation to BHA other than professional and that shouldn't put people off?Albion In Staffs

keswick wrote…

Far gull wrote…

Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.

You make extremely good points in a well written piece. Shame some on here are incapable of doing the same. Interesting one about TK and he would not have done himself much good with his end of season performances. He is at best a Championship player or Premier bench warmer. Point is would we want him back now or get someone in who actually wants to play for the club ? I know what my preference would be.

Forget the off-field rumours, supposing he was offered return and said that Hyypia's appointment had given him a level of enthusiasm he wouldn't have otherwise had under the former coaches? Perhaps, for example, he didn't get on with the goalkeeping coach who's now gone? I'd take him back on the basis his performances would probably liven up.
We mustn't forget it's a decision for a Polish lad with no affiliation to BHA other than professional and that shouldn't put people off?

Score: 1

To baldly go
12:02pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Off topic, does anyone know when the new kit is to be revealed?

Off topic, does anyone know when the new kit is to be revealed?To baldly go

Off topic, does anyone know when the new kit is to be revealed?

Score: -1

Far gull
1:12pm Sat 7 Jun 14

keswick wrote…

Far gull wrote…

Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.

You make extremely good points in a well written piece. Shame some on here are incapable of doing the same. Interesting one about TK and he would not have done himself much good with his end of season performances. He is at best a Championship player or Premier bench warmer. Point is would we want him back now or get someone in who actually wants to play for the club ? I know what my preference would be.

Agreed not actually sure i would want him back on his end of season form and 'mental ' state. I think many players will have to accept small wages in future unless you are in prem and even there i feel there is a gentile wind of change afoot .

[quote][p][bold]keswick[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote:
Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.[/p][/quote]You make extremely good points in a well written piece. Shame some on here are incapable of doing the same. Interesting one about TK and he would not have done himself much good with his end of season performances. He is at best a Championship player or Premier bench warmer. Point is would we want him back now or get someone in who actually wants to play for the club ? I know what my preference would be.[/p][/quote]Agreed not actually sure i would want him back on his end of season form and 'mental ' state. I think many players will have to accept small wages in future unless you are in prem and even there i feel there is a gentile wind of change afoot .Far gull

keswick wrote…

Far gull wrote…

Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.

You make extremely good points in a well written piece. Shame some on here are incapable of doing the same. Interesting one about TK and he would not have done himself much good with his end of season performances. He is at best a Championship player or Premier bench warmer. Point is would we want him back now or get someone in who actually wants to play for the club ? I know what my preference would be.

Agreed not actually sure i would want him back on his end of season form and 'mental ' state. I think many players will have to accept small wages in future unless you are in prem and even there i feel there is a gentile wind of change afoot .

Score: 2

ringtone
3:51pm Sat 7 Jun 14

To baldly go wrote…

Having read all the posts from last night onwards, this appointment is already splitting peoples opinions, I for one, am on the not sure side! His one year managing at BL was with an inherited side and it remains to be seen what sort of team HE can build and the style of play he brings. I will give him my full support yes, but will need to see a much more attacking style of football/entertainme

nt, I mention entertainment because that's what gets us going, not the tippy tappy possession game which saw us all frustrated towards the end of last season and the dull atmosphere at the Amex some have mentioned.
As for players coming in, if the budget had been available, Poyet and Garcia would have used it and either of them possibly still been here and us in the prem. So I expect a few players coming in on the so called free transfer as it were and a few unknowns bought from abroad. We may get one or two high profile loans in but not until the last day of the window imo.
Surprised at NJ staying on, but see it as him being used to communicate the strengths and weakness of each player to SH before he brings in his own man.
What control SH will have is another question, the last two managers left because of lack of control in my opinion and it remains to be seen how He handles the restrictions placed upon him.
Overall, not excited, but looking forward to see how things progress and will take it from there. UTA

You disappoint me, my friend.

Yesterday you were all in favour of hyppia now you are not sure.

Learn to trust your intuition and not be influenced by those village idiots Arnie and Vegas.

Remember you go to the games, they dont.

[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote:
Having read all the posts from last night onwards, this appointment is already splitting peoples opinions, I for one, am on the not sure side! His one year managing at BL was with an inherited side and it remains to be seen what sort of team HE can build and the style of play he brings. I will give him my full support yes, but will need to see a much more attacking style of football/entertainme
nt, I mention entertainment because that's what gets us going, not the tippy tappy possession game which saw us all frustrated towards the end of last season and the dull atmosphere at the Amex some have mentioned.
As for players coming in, if the budget had been available, Poyet and Garcia would have used it and either of them possibly still been here and us in the prem. So I expect a few players coming in on the so called free transfer as it were and a few unknowns bought from abroad. We may get one or two high profile loans in but not until the last day of the window imo.
Surprised at NJ staying on, but see it as him being used to communicate the strengths and weakness of each player to SH before he brings in his own man.
What control SH will have is another question, the last two managers left because of lack of control in my opinion and it remains to be seen how He handles the restrictions placed upon him.
Overall, not excited, but looking forward to see how things progress and will take it from there. UTA[/p][/quote]You disappoint me, my friend.
Yesterday you were all in favour of hyppia now you are not sure.
Learn to trust your intuition and not be influenced by those village idiots Arnie and Vegas.
Remember you go to the games, they dont.ringtone

To baldly go wrote…

Having read all the posts from last night onwards, this appointment is already splitting peoples opinions, I for one, am on the not sure side! His one year managing at BL was with an inherited side and it remains to be seen what sort of team HE can build and the style of play he brings. I will give him my full support yes, but will need to see a much more attacking style of football/entertainme

nt, I mention entertainment because that's what gets us going, not the tippy tappy possession game which saw us all frustrated towards the end of last season and the dull atmosphere at the Amex some have mentioned.
As for players coming in, if the budget had been available, Poyet and Garcia would have used it and either of them possibly still been here and us in the prem. So I expect a few players coming in on the so called free transfer as it were and a few unknowns bought from abroad. We may get one or two high profile loans in but not until the last day of the window imo.
Surprised at NJ staying on, but see it as him being used to communicate the strengths and weakness of each player to SH before he brings in his own man.
What control SH will have is another question, the last two managers left because of lack of control in my opinion and it remains to be seen how He handles the restrictions placed upon him.
Overall, not excited, but looking forward to see how things progress and will take it from there. UTA

You disappoint me, my friend.

Yesterday you were all in favour of hyppia now you are not sure.

Learn to trust your intuition and not be influenced by those village idiots Arnie and Vegas.

Remember you go to the games, they dont.

Score: -1

tinker111
4:42pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Far gull wrote…

Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.

S H not my first choice but think he will make a fist of it if given proper back from board Sadest bit is SH is not bringing own back room team ,had wished for JONES & BURKE TO BE SHOWN THE DOOR ,am afraid that they will hold back team and Sami Hyypia's progress .

[quote][p][bold]Far gull[/bold] wrote:
Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.[/p][/quote]S H not my first choice but think he will make a fist of it if given proper back from board Sadest bit is SH is not bringing own back room team ,had wished for JONES & BURKE TO BE SHOWN THE DOOR ,am afraid that they will hold back team and Sami Hyypia's progress .tinker111

Far gull wrote…

Not quite who ,many of us had in mind,NJ obviously providing continuity . In fairness none of us know what he is like ,but we will soon find out if Sami likes him i am sure. At least no language issues meaning NJ has to do post match bits this time around.
I suspect Sami will be good for our defenders. Will be interesting to see who we get in now.
Have heard no prem clubs rushing in for TK . May be he and his agent were a tad to optimistic of prem football ? I do think for all our annoyance with 'percieved tight management' that a wake call to agents and players has had to happen,especially on reading report on debts being racked up by championship clubs. It is un acceptable and un sustainable.

S H not my first choice but think he will make a fist of it if given proper back from board Sadest bit is SH is not bringing own back room team ,had wished for JONES & BURKE TO BE SHOWN THE DOOR ,am afraid that they will hold back team and Sami Hyypia's progress .

Score: 0

To baldly go
5:27pm Sat 7 Jun 14

ringtone wrote…

To baldly go wrote…

Having read all the posts from last night onwards, this appointment is already splitting peoples opinions, I for one, am on the not sure side! His one year managing at BL was with an inherited side and it remains to be seen what sort of team HE can build and the style of play he brings. I will give him my full support yes, but will need to see a much more attacking style of football/entertainme

nt, I mention entertainment because that's what gets us going, not the tippy tappy possession game which saw us all frustrated towards the end of last season and the dull atmosphere at the Amex some have mentioned.
As for players coming in, if the budget had been available, Poyet and Garcia would have used it and either of them possibly still been here and us in the prem. So I expect a few players coming in on the so called free transfer as it were and a few unknowns bought from abroad. We may get one or two high profile loans in but not until the last day of the window imo.
Surprised at NJ staying on, but see it as him being used to communicate the strengths and weakness of each player to SH before he brings in his own man.
What control SH will have is another question, the last two managers left because of lack of control in my opinion and it remains to be seen how He handles the restrictions placed upon him.
Overall, not excited, but looking forward to see how things progress and will take it from there. UTA

You disappoint me, my friend.

Yesterday you were all in favour of hyppia now you are not sure.

Learn to trust your intuition and not be influenced by those village idiots Arnie and Vegas.

Remember you go to the games, they dont.

Never been in favour or Hypia, it's only now that he's been appointed that I will wait and see how he works out!
Yes I do go to games, to be entertained, something which was missing most of last season imo, and I listen/read all comments, agree/disagree with them and reply where I think it deserves it, also love a wind-up at times, much like yourself.
Those that cannot get to games can offer opinion from a different perspective which has it's advantages some times and are worth thinking about imo.
And as for village idiots I just heard one was missing! Lol, hahaha.

[quote][p][bold]ringtone[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]To baldly go[/bold] wrote:
Having read all the posts from last night onwards, this appointment is already splitting peoples opinions, I for one, am on the not sure side! His one year managing at BL was with an inherited side and it remains to be seen what sort of team HE can build and the style of play he brings. I will give him my full support yes, but will need to see a much more attacking style of football/entertainme
nt, I mention entertainment because that's what gets us going, not the tippy tappy possession game which saw us all frustrated towards the end of last season and the dull atmosphere at the Amex some have mentioned.
As for players coming in, if the budget had been available, Poyet and Garcia would have used it and either of them possibly still been here and us in the prem. So I expect a few players coming in on the so called free transfer as it were and a few unknowns bought from abroad. We may get one or two high profile loans in but not until the last day of the window imo.
Surprised at NJ staying on, but see it as him being used to communicate the strengths and weakness of each player to SH before he brings in his own man.
What control SH will have is another question, the last two managers left because of lack of control in my opinion and it remains to be seen how He handles the restrictions placed upon him.
Overall, not excited, but looking forward to see how things progress and will take it from there. UTA[/p][/quote]You disappoint me, my friend.
Yesterday you were all in favour of hyppia now you are not sure.
Learn to trust your intuition and not be influenced by those village idiots Arnie and Vegas.
Remember you go to the games, they dont.[/p][/quote]Never been in favour or Hypia, it's only now that he's been appointed that I will wait and see how he works out!
Yes I do go to games, to be entertained, something which was missing most of last season imo, and I listen/read all comments, agree/disagree with them and reply where I think it deserves it, also love a wind-up at times, much like yourself.
Those that cannot get to games can offer opinion from a different perspective which has it's advantages some times and are worth thinking about imo.
And as for village idiots I just heard one was missing! Lol, hahaha.To baldly go

ringtone wrote…

To baldly go wrote…

Having read all the posts from last night onwards, this appointment is already splitting peoples opinions, I for one, am on the not sure side! His one year managing at BL was with an inherited side and it remains to be seen what sort of team HE can build and the style of play he brings. I will give him my full support yes, but will need to see a much more attacking style of football/entertainme

nt, I mention entertainment because that's what gets us going, not the tippy tappy possession game which saw us all frustrated towards the end of last season and the dull atmosphere at the Amex some have mentioned.
As for players coming in, if the budget had been available, Poyet and Garcia would have used it and either of them possibly still been here and us in the prem. So I expect a few players coming in on the so called free transfer as it were and a few unknowns bought from abroad. We may get one or two high profile loans in but not until the last day of the window imo.
Surprised at NJ staying on, but see it as him being used to communicate the strengths and weakness of each player to SH before he brings in his own man.
What control SH will have is another question, the last two managers left because of lack of control in my opinion and it remains to be seen how He handles the restrictions placed upon him.
Overall, not excited, but looking forward to see how things progress and will take it from there. UTA

You disappoint me, my friend.

Yesterday you were all in favour of hyppia now you are not sure.

Learn to trust your intuition and not be influenced by those village idiots Arnie and Vegas.

Remember you go to the games, they dont.

Never been in favour or Hypia, it's only now that he's been appointed that I will wait and see how he works out!
Yes I do go to games, to be entertained, something which was missing most of last season imo, and I listen/read all comments, agree/disagree with them and reply where I think it deserves it, also love a wind-up at times, much like yourself.
Those that cannot get to games can offer opinion from a different perspective which has it's advantages some times and are worth thinking about imo.
And as for village idiots I just heard one was missing! Lol, hahaha.

Score: 0

gordongull
6:31pm Sat 7 Jun 14

Any talk of £5m+ players is probably over-ambitious.
And talking of ambition, there are clearly-defined limits to what the Club is allowed to spend on players and their wages.
Cardiff splashed out £31m to get to the Premier League, and that team is still largely in place. Norwich have invested £16.5m on strikers in the last 12 months, and each of those sides will soon receive £23m as their first parachute payment. Eight other clubs will receive varying amounts, depending on the season they were relegated.
Does that mean we are faced with mission impossible?
It might not be as bad as it looks, because in the last 28 seasons since the play-offs began, only a quarter of relegated teams have bounced straight back, and that ratio has not increased with the huge rise in parachute payments.
Pushing the boat out to acquire established stars is not going to be an option, but this summer is going to be a buyers' market, with lots of players with the necessary experience available for knock -down wages.
There are unlikely to be any more Vicentes or Agustiens, but that should not prevent us from building a team with someone reliable in every position, which with the right coaching and motivation, can mount a serious challenge.
Last season we finished 6th, but nearer on points to relegated Doncaster than top team Leicester. We had an abysmal run-in, but luckily all our rivals showed an even greater willingness to screw up.
The Championship is not a level playing field, and for a Club like B&HA, it is not fair to treat the Manager as if it is. A top half place should be considered an achievement for Sami Hyypia in his first season in charge, although I am sure he will have his sights set nearer the top end.

Any talk of £5m+ players is probably over-ambitious.
And talking of ambition, there are clearly-defined limits to what the Club is allowed to spend on players and their wages.
Cardiff splashed out £31m to get to the Premier League, and that team is still largely in place. Norwich have invested £16.5m on strikers in the last 12 months, and each of those sides will soon receive £23m as their first parachute payment. Eight other clubs will receive varying amounts, depending on the season they were relegated.
Does that mean we are faced with mission impossible?
It might not be as bad as it looks, because in the last 28 seasons since the play-offs began, only a quarter of relegated teams have bounced straight back, and that ratio has not increased with the huge rise in parachute payments.
Pushing the boat out to acquire established stars is not going to be an option, but this summer is going to be a buyers' market, with lots of players with the necessary experience available for knock -down wages.
There are unlikely to be any more Vicentes or Agustiens, but that should not prevent us from building a team with someone reliable in every position, which with the right coaching and motivation, can mount a serious challenge.
Last season we finished 6th, but nearer on points to relegated Doncaster than top team Leicester. We had an abysmal run-in, but luckily all our rivals showed an even greater willingness to screw up.
The Championship is not a level playing field, and for a Club like B&HA, it is not fair to treat the Manager as if it is. A top half place should be considered an achievement for Sami Hyypia in his first season in charge, although I am sure he will have his sights set nearer the top end.gordongull

Any talk of £5m+ players is probably over-ambitious.
And talking of ambition, there are clearly-defined limits to what the Club is allowed to spend on players and their wages.
Cardiff splashed out £31m to get to the Premier League, and that team is still largely in place. Norwich have invested £16.5m on strikers in the last 12 months, and each of those sides will soon receive £23m as their first parachute payment. Eight other clubs will receive varying amounts, depending on the season they were relegated.
Does that mean we are faced with mission impossible?
It might not be as bad as it looks, because in the last 28 seasons since the play-offs began, only a quarter of relegated teams have bounced straight back, and that ratio has not increased with the huge rise in parachute payments.
Pushing the boat out to acquire established stars is not going to be an option, but this summer is going to be a buyers' market, with lots of players with the necessary experience available for knock -down wages.
There are unlikely to be any more Vicentes or Agustiens, but that should not prevent us from building a team with someone reliable in every position, which with the right coaching and motivation, can mount a serious challenge.
Last season we finished 6th, but nearer on points to relegated Doncaster than top team Leicester. We had an abysmal run-in, but luckily all our rivals showed an even greater willingness to screw up.
The Championship is not a level playing field, and for a Club like B&HA, it is not fair to treat the Manager as if it is. A top half place should be considered an achievement for Sami Hyypia in his first season in charge, although I am sure he will have his sights set nearer the top end.

Score: 4

Seagull John
11:31pm Sat 7 Jun 14

namgo49 wrote…

mark by the sea wrote…

Albion In Staffs wrote…

A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....

We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.

Sami has good credentials , and we all want him to do well,
The next 3-4 weeks will show the ambition of TB in terms of budget.
If we sign players who don't excite us, and are out of the Andrews mould , sami will need a miracle, I will no doubt get thumbs down ,but look at the way Cardiff , norwich have started building from a extremely strong position, Derby will be stronger, Wigan, Boro and Fulham ... Unless we replace like for like then sami will need to do wonders in the loan market.
Let's get behind the club whatever , and the support at the Amex needs to wake up.

The club will get my thumbs up if they re-sign Ward. A quality player but expensive on the wages front. Too, we need a decent goalkeeper, Speroni or Federici would be my choices. Centre back, the guy from Yeovil looked pretty good. Midfield, amongst others give Orlandi another year. Fit, he is a top player. Etc etc etc

Speroni wants £25k per week. I think you need to lower your sights a tad.

[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote:
A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....
We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.[/p][/quote]Sami has good credentials , and we all want him to do well,
The next 3-4 weeks will show the ambition of TB in terms of budget.
If we sign players who don't excite us, and are out of the Andrews mould , sami will need a miracle, I will no doubt get thumbs down ,but look at the way Cardiff , norwich have started building from a extremely strong position, Derby will be stronger, Wigan, Boro and Fulham ... Unless we replace like for like then sami will need to do wonders in the loan market.
Let's get behind the club whatever , and the support at the Amex needs to wake up.[/p][/quote]The club will get my thumbs up if they re-sign Ward. A quality player but expensive on the wages front. Too, we need a decent goalkeeper, Speroni or Federici would be my choices. Centre back, the guy from Yeovil looked pretty good. Midfield, amongst others give Orlandi another year. Fit, he is a top player. Etc etc etc[/p][/quote]Speroni wants £25k per week. I think you need to lower your sights a tad.Seagull John

namgo49 wrote…

mark by the sea wrote…

Albion In Staffs wrote…

A plea, which is not aimed at the first few on here this morning.....

We're all entitled to an opinion on whether this is a good appointment or not and those opinions will and clearly do, differ greatly. But when that opinion is supported by 'factual' reflections (usually negative ones) I switch off.
No-one on here "knows" that Hyypia wasn't first choice.
No-one on here "knows" that he's a yes man.
No-one on here "knows" that Nathan Jones is a liability.
Right now, we have to take the appointment and the process which led to it, at face value. There is no evidence that Hyypia's appointment was anything other than the result of an exhaustive search that may have seen through the cracks of several of the so called 'preferred' candidates.
I'm making no predictions about success or failure, the next few weeks and the start of the season will begin to shape that path, so let it take it's natural course.
Opine at will, but frankly, mindless assertions to 'prove' expert status are a bore.

Sami has good credentials , and we all want him to do well,
The next 3-4 weeks will show the ambition of TB in terms of budget.
If we sign players who don't excite us, and are out of the Andrews mould , sami will need a miracle, I will no doubt get thumbs down ,but look at the way Cardiff , norwich have started building from a extremely strong position, Derby will be stronger, Wigan, Boro and Fulham ... Unless we replace like for like then sami will need to do wonders in the loan market.
Let's get behind the club whatever , and the support at the Amex needs to wake up.

The club will get my thumbs up if they re-sign Ward. A quality player but expensive on the wages front. Too, we need a decent goalkeeper, Speroni or Federici would be my choices. Centre back, the guy from Yeovil looked pretty good. Midfield, amongst others give Orlandi another year. Fit, he is a top player. Etc etc etc

Speroni wants £25k per week. I think you need to lower your sights a tad.

Score: 2

Seagull John
11:44pm Sat 7 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Captain Haddock wrote…

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

We have absolutely no chance of signing Danny ings. He will be a first team regular and his transfer value is out of our advised range.

I read that he may be not guaranteed a regular place due to new signings influx with Burnleys new found cash. Just thought we could steal a march on everybody, yes he would be pricey, but how pricey is too pricey? 5 million should be viable especially if we sell Ulloa, but he and Ulloa would make a good strikeforce, the sort of strikeforce which would probably win promotion, all depends what our transfer budget is and how much Bloom wants to push it I guess. It would be nice not to rely on freebies and loans so much. Also signing quality players would draw in more quality players, could build a squad capsble of winning the championship.

I think Burnley would be more likely to release a backup striker before they let their top scorer go. Since that would be young Ashley Barnes and they have already said he is going nowhere, where on earth have you come up with the frankly crazy idea that we could afford and they would release Ings?

[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote:
Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.[/p][/quote]We have absolutely no chance of signing Danny ings. He will be a first team regular and his transfer value is out of our advised range.[/p][/quote]I read that he may be not guaranteed a regular place due to new signings influx with Burnleys new found cash. Just thought we could steal a march on everybody, yes he would be pricey, but how pricey is too pricey? 5 million should be viable especially if we sell Ulloa, but he and Ulloa would make a good strikeforce, the sort of strikeforce which would probably win promotion, all depends what our transfer budget is and how much Bloom wants to push it I guess. It would be nice not to rely on freebies and loans so much. Also signing quality players would draw in more quality players, could build a squad capsble of winning the championship.[/p][/quote]I think Burnley would be more likely to release a backup striker before they let their top scorer go. Since that would be young Ashley Barnes and they have already said he is going nowhere, where on earth have you come up with the frankly crazy idea that we could afford and they would release Ings?Seagull John

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Captain Haddock wrote…

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

We have absolutely no chance of signing Danny ings. He will be a first team regular and his transfer value is out of our advised range.

I read that he may be not guaranteed a regular place due to new signings influx with Burnleys new found cash. Just thought we could steal a march on everybody, yes he would be pricey, but how pricey is too pricey? 5 million should be viable especially if we sell Ulloa, but he and Ulloa would make a good strikeforce, the sort of strikeforce which would probably win promotion, all depends what our transfer budget is and how much Bloom wants to push it I guess. It would be nice not to rely on freebies and loans so much. Also signing quality players would draw in more quality players, could build a squad capsble of winning the championship.

I think Burnley would be more likely to release a backup striker before they let their top scorer go. Since that would be young Ashley Barnes and they have already said he is going nowhere, where on earth have you come up with the frankly crazy idea that we could afford and they would release Ings?

Score: 2

Captain Haddock
2:09am Sun 8 Jun 14

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Captain Haddock wrote…

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

We have absolutely no chance of signing Danny ings. He will be a first team regular and his transfer value is out of our advised range.

I read that he may be not guaranteed a regular place due to new signings influx with Burnleys new found cash. Just thought we could steal a march on everybody, yes he would be pricey, but how pricey is too pricey? 5 million should be viable especially if we sell Ulloa, but he and Ulloa would make a good strikeforce, the sort of strikeforce which would probably win promotion, all depends what our transfer budget is and how much Bloom wants to push it I guess. It would be nice not to rely on freebies and loans so much. Also signing quality players would draw in more quality players, could build a squad capsble of winning the championship.

I see what you mean, EoCD, but I can't see Ings giving up PL status easily - at least until he's given it a go next season. Value wise, I reckon £7m would be what they are asking, IF they are asking, that is.

[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Captain Haddock[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]East of CrawleyDown[/bold] wrote:
Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.[/p][/quote]We have absolutely no chance of signing Danny ings. He will be a first team regular and his transfer value is out of our advised range.[/p][/quote]I read that he may be not guaranteed a regular place due to new signings influx with Burnleys new found cash. Just thought we could steal a march on everybody, yes he would be pricey, but how pricey is too pricey? 5 million should be viable especially if we sell Ulloa, but he and Ulloa would make a good strikeforce, the sort of strikeforce which would probably win promotion, all depends what our transfer budget is and how much Bloom wants to push it I guess. It would be nice not to rely on freebies and loans so much. Also signing quality players would draw in more quality players, could build a squad capsble of winning the championship.[/p][/quote]I see what you mean, EoCD, but I can't see Ings giving up PL status easily - at least until he's given it a go next season. Value wise, I reckon £7m would be what they are asking, IF they are asking, that is.Captain Haddock

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Captain Haddock wrote…

East of CrawleyDown wrote…

Let's hope that we get a more fast paced attacking approach with plenty of goals, last season especially we didn't score enough and looked very flat at times, entertainment has been lacking for some tine. Some quality strikers and attacking midfielders are a must and hopefully Bloom has given him the money to sign them. Danny Ings would be a good start, he might not be a regular for Burnley in the prem, he knows where the net is and how to get promotion, this is the sort of calibre player we need to be going for anyway.

We have absolutely no chance of signing Danny ings. He will be a first team regular and his transfer value is out of our advised range.

I read that he may be not guaranteed a regular place due to new signings influx with Burnleys new found cash. Just thought we could steal a march on everybody, yes he would be pricey, but how pricey is too pricey? 5 million should be viable especially if we sell Ulloa, but he and Ulloa would make a good strikeforce, the sort of strikeforce which would probably win promotion, all depends what our transfer budget is and how much Bloom wants to push it I guess. It would be nice not to rely on freebies and loans so much. Also signing quality players would draw in more quality players, could build a squad capsble of winning the championship.

I see what you mean, EoCD, but I can't see Ings giving up PL status easily - at least until he's given it a go next season. Value wise, I reckon £7m would be what they are asking, IF they are asking, that is.

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