Which Political Party Is Violent?

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The Peace and Freedom Party is obviously more violent. they can't even spell "Piece" right.

Green Party is a contender too. Martian blood is green and easily spilled.

As for Democrats and Republican, it has been pointed out that there have historically been more Democrat war-time presidents than Republican. But that fails to take into account the advent of growing numbers of neoconservatives in the Republican Party in more recent times.

But wait!! 40% of registered voters are Democrats, 29% are Republicans, and 28% are Independent.

But what does all this really mean? I have to say, it says very little, if anything. Why? Because America is A WAR-LIKE COUNTRY, we have a great propensity for violence in culture, we are a citizenry that is generally armed to the teeth and we have HUGE numbers of gun deaths. Just look at this chart from NPR:

I don't know how much of that gun death is committed by one part or another. But maybe someone here could show us some statistics as to which party is more in favor of stricter gun laws. That might say something.

Well we have this - 24 gun laws that have failed since Sandy Hook - it shows the person/people who proposed a gun restriction/safety bill and what happened to the bill. It's from 2017, but I'm pretty sure I haven't missed some gun safety/mental health/restriction on weapons of war law that has passed in the past year.

Loosening restrictions on the mentally ill is a recent victory for the Repubs. Damn Dems want to come and steal everyone's guns. Black helicopters and everything.

But these are just some FACTS, so you can make your own conclusions.....

Good research work there, Nancy. This quote from the CBS News article is very telling:

"The National Rifle Association's (NRA) stranglehold over Congress is
largely responsible for the inaction. According to the Center for
Responsive Politics, the NRA spent more than $3 million on federal
lobbying efforts in 2013 and 2014."

$3 million should be like peanuts to a political fundraiser. Maybe cashews.

The Peace and Freedom Party is obviously more violent. they can't even spell "Piece" right.

Green Party is a contender too. Martian blood is green and easily spilled.

As for Democrats and Republican, it has been pointed out that there have historically been more Democrat war-time presidents than Republican. But that fails to take into account the advent of growing numbers of neoconservatives in the Republican Party in more recent times.

But wait!! 40% of registered voters are Democrats, 29% are Republicans, and 28% are Independent.

But what does all this really mean? I have to say, it says very little, if anything. Why? Because America is A WAR-LIKE COUNTRY, we have a great propensity for violence in culture, we are a citizenry that is generally armed to the teeth and we have HUGE numbers of gun deaths. Just look at this chart from NPR:

I don't know how much of that gun death is committed by one part or another. But maybe someone here could show us some statistics as to which party is more in favor of stricter gun laws. That might say something.

Well we have this - 24 gun laws that have failed since Sandy Hook - it shows the person/people who proposed a gun restriction/safety bill and what happened to the bill. It's from 2017, but I'm pretty sure I haven't missed some gun safety/mental health/restriction on weapons of war law that has passed in the past year.

Loosening restrictions on the mentally ill is a recent victory for the Repubs. Damn Dems want to come and steal everyone's guns. Black helicopters and everything.

But these are just some FACTS, so you can make your own conclusions.....

Good research work there, Nancy. This quote from the CBS News article is very telling:

"The National Rifle Association's (NRA) stranglehold over Congress is
largely responsible for the inaction. According to the Center for
Responsive Politics, the NRA spent more than $3 million on federal
lobbying efforts in 2013 and 2014."

$3 million should be like peanuts to a political fundraiser. Maybe cashews.

Perhaps their worried of alienating their base.

I believe they spent close to $30 million in 2016, helping to elect Team trump Treason. Question is, where did they get the money and from whom did they get it? putin on the ritz? Team Mueller will let us know.

In North Carolina, the NRA spent $6.2 million on the incumbent Republican Sen. Richard Burr, the most it has ever invested in a down-ballot race. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong)

The National Rifle Association took a historic gamble in 2016, and it paid off in a huge way.

The gun rights group placed multimillion-dollar bets on Donald Trump and six Republican Senate candidates locked in highly competitive races. It poured $50.2 million, or 96 percent of its total outside spending, into these races, and lost only one — an open seat in Nevada, vacated by the Democratic Minority Leader, Harry Reid. That race cost the NRA roughly $2.5 million.

Ok so where has real communism been put into play since everywhere that has done it has essentially murdered its' own people?

Why are you talking about utopic ism:s as something working in the real world, or something that even has been applied to the real world?

Where has full-blown capitalism ever worked?

What has worked best - the social democractic ideals of the nordic countries or US predatory capitalistic ideals? Well, every metric other than war crimes, poverty, mocking sexual assualt victims and defense spending points to the nordic countries.

Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on October 2018

The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...

I’ll live with the capitalism that Canada and the US has. Is it perfect, no. Can it be better? Of course. I have always been on the low end of the middle class and sometimes part of the working poor ... but for 30 years I have been able to alaways own my own house, even in the middle of a divorce I was still able to purchase another house. Nothing better than having a coffee on a cool crisp fall day in your own natural gas heated home. I could never imagine living in an apartment for life, nor would I want to live any where that has made home ownership for low income people impossible...

I’ll live with the capitalism that Canada and the US has. Is it perfect, no. Can it be better? Of course. I have always been on the low end of the middle class and sometimes part of the working poor ... but for 30 years I have been able to alaways own my own house, even in the middle of a divorce I was still able to purchase another house. Nothing better than having a coffee on a cool crisp fall day in your own natural gas heated home. I could never imagine living in an apartment for life, nor would I want to live any where that has made home ownership for low income people impossible...

Given how healthcare and college costs work in the US, our countries could not be more dissimilar unfortunately

Healthcare and college can bankrupt any middle income family at any time in the US

I’ll live with the capitalism that Canada and the US has. Is it perfect, no. Can it be better? Of course. I have always been on the low end of the middle class and sometimes part of the working poor ... but for 30 years I have been able to alaways own my own house, even in the middle of a divorce I was still able to purchase another house. Nothing better than having a coffee on a cool crisp fall day in your own natural gas heated home. I could never imagine living in an apartment for life, nor would I want to live any where that has made home ownership for low income people impossible...

You don't think other countries would have a cozy spot for you to drink your coffee at? Maybe with some heating that is renewable?

Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on October 2018

The man they call my enemy. I've seen his eyes, he looks just like me - A mirror...

I’ll live with the capitalism that Canada and the US has. Is it perfect, no. Can it be better? Of course. I have always been on the low end of the middle class and sometimes part of the working poor ... but for 30 years I have been able to alaways own my own house, even in the middle of a divorce I was still able to purchase another house. Nothing better than having a coffee on a cool crisp fall day in your own natural gas heated home. I could never imagine living in an apartment for life, nor would I want to live any where that has made home ownership for low income people impossible...

But your housing prices aren't indicative of Canada's economic system per se, they're only indicative of the community you live in. There are areas of the country where the working wealthy can't afford to buy a home, and it's our economic system that has made that so.

The document asserts that all men must oppose abortion, gay marriage, communism, and occultism when Biblical war begins. Otherwise, they will be murdered.

“If they do not yield — kill all males,” the document reads.

Section 5 of the manifesto asserts that during war, “numbers are inconsequential” and “God is with us, and the Battle is His.” Section 6 mentions circumcision and that the Biblical army may make sacrifices to achieve its goals. Section 11 includes a detailed organizational structure for the Biblical army, with the highest rank of “Battalion Commander.”

The document asserts that all men must oppose abortion, gay marriage, communism, and occultism when Biblical war begins. Otherwise, they will be murdered.

“If they do not yield — kill all males,” the document reads.

Section 5 of the manifesto asserts that during war, “numbers are inconsequential” and “God is with us, and the Battle is His.” Section 6 mentions circumcision and that the Biblical army may make sacrifices to achieve its goals. Section 11 includes a detailed organizational structure for the Biblical army, with the highest rank of “Battalion Commander.”

The document asserts that all men must oppose abortion, gay marriage, communism, and occultism when Biblical war begins. Otherwise, they will be murdered.

“If they do not yield — kill all males,” the document reads.

Section 5 of the manifesto asserts that during war, “numbers are inconsequential” and “God is with us, and the Battle is His.” Section 6 mentions circumcision and that the Biblical army may make sacrifices to achieve its goals. Section 11 includes a detailed organizational structure for the Biblical army, with the highest rank of “Battalion Commander.”

The document asserts that all men must oppose abortion, gay marriage, communism, and occultism when Biblical war begins. Otherwise, they will be murdered.

“If they do not yield — kill all males,” the document reads.

Section 5 of the manifesto asserts that during war, “numbers are inconsequential” and “God is with us, and the Battle is His.” Section 6 mentions circumcision and that the Biblical army may make sacrifices to achieve its goals. Section 11 includes a detailed organizational structure for the Biblical army, with the highest rank of “Battalion Commander.”

Well shit. Since I’m against abortion but for gay marriage what happens to me? Killed? Just hurt? Left alone?

To the gas chamber for you I suppose, this is an all or nothing affair. This guy doesn't fuck around.

Haha, I've heard supporters of his try to normalize this saying that he was just taking notes from an Old Testament class. Well, if that's the case, it sounds to me like the Old Testament is extremely subversive, and perhaps we should open up FBI files for all of those Christians who claim to follow the Bible's teachings. They sound like a very dangerous organization. The Old Testament is definitely a wacky tome but I'm afraid this guy's "notes" took it to a new level.

The document asserts that all men must oppose abortion, gay marriage, communism, and occultism when Biblical war begins. Otherwise, they will be murdered.

“If they do not yield — kill all males,” the document reads.

Section 5 of the manifesto asserts that during war, “numbers are inconsequential” and “God is with us, and the Battle is His.” Section 6 mentions circumcision and that the Biblical army may make sacrifices to achieve its goals. Section 11 includes a detailed organizational structure for the Biblical army, with the highest rank of “Battalion Commander.”

Well shit. Since I’m against abortion but for gay marriage what happens to me? Killed? Just hurt? Left alone?

To the gas chamber for you I suppose, this is an all or nothing affair. This guy doesn't fuck around.

Haha, I've heard supporters of his try to normalize this saying that he was just taking notes from an Old Testament class. Well, if that's the case, it sounds to me like the Old Testament is extremely subversive, and perhaps we should open up FBI files for all of those Christians who claim to follow the Bible's teachings. They sound like a very dangerous organization. The Old Testament is definitely a wacky tome but I'm afraid this guy's "notes" took it to a new level.

The document asserts that all men must oppose abortion, gay marriage, communism, and occultism when Biblical war begins. Otherwise, they will be murdered.

“If they do not yield — kill all males,” the document reads.

Section 5 of the manifesto asserts that during war, “numbers are inconsequential” and “God is with us, and the Battle is His.” Section 6 mentions circumcision and that the Biblical army may make sacrifices to achieve its goals. Section 11 includes a detailed organizational structure for the Biblical army, with the highest rank of “Battalion Commander.”

I'm still rather fresh on these forums, so excuse me if I say something slightly off. I'm still young (19) but since I have been finding my own identity as a human I've also found my political identity. I've come to learn a lot about politics and I've seen the way members of both parties act. I'm a left leaning moderate so I have mostly left views. However I must say... people don't understand that it is VERY possible to be an extremist in any religious, political, or social party. Anybody can take an idea and push it to the extreme and bring it to a violent point. Some are worse than others but I don't believe it can solely be tied to a single party. Let's all just try to love each other as much as we can!