A person with the nick ‘Yohan’ said in the old forum that the B.J.P had recently lost it out to the Congress as people did not see any trickle down of money as a result of ‘India Shining’ effect propagated by the B.J.P.He said that is only natural to be expected in democracy.

A senior B.J.P spokesperson recently called his rival political opponent as being worse than a prostitute as she sells her party tickets to anyone who gives more money amongst existing prospective ticket seekers.If someone gives Rs 100/-,she sells the ticket to him,if someone offers Rs 200/-,she snatches away that ticket from the previous candidate and sells it to the new one who offered that Rs 200/- and so on and so forth he alleged.

According to British,the Indians instead of being grateful towards them for their more or less democratic rule which gave them a time of peace as compared to the previous eras of open warfare across the sub-continent, sought independence which would necessarily benefit them much more. Now independent India established industries of its own across the country,yet in Telangana,the semi-slave status of ‘nee baanchan kalmoktha dora’(I am your slave,I bow down to your feet my lord) did not go away until N.T.Rama Rao came to power. Now recently people wanted even more in Telangana, hence they agitated and got a separate state.

When the formation of the state was briefly deferred,I have overheard the agitators of Telangaana say that their food and the food of their offspring is snatched away from their mouths.

manfred wrote: I have respect for a prostitute who does what she does to feed her children, for example. If I met one I would try to help, not blame.

So I believe Manfred has no problem with what they did.Ohmyrus also said that in democracies,the majority low class people want to snatch away more and more money from the rich and that is not correct just as rape would still be something wrong even if the majority were pitching for it.

So are the majority of the people of democracies analogous to prostitutes or rapists and does democracy abet these situations of prostitution and/or rape?

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If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Should this Graeco pagan thingy/ancient Hindu-Buddhist thingy called democracy go for the greater good of reducing prostitution and/or rape?

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

I am not sure what exactly prostitution has to do democracy... Are there no prostitutes in an absolute kingdom or a dictatorship? Go to Belarus, you will get propositioned by prostitutes in Minsk more often than in the Amsterdam red light district.

And prostitution is not the same as rape.

I would never suggest to anyone that prostitution is a good career choice, under any circumstance, but I would also not treat a prostitute with disrespect. Some are in fact victims of crime and have been trapped in prostitution, specially if they were illegal immigrants at one point. Others opted for it out of need or desperation. None need our condescending and hypocritical judgements, all need understanding, and many need help.

Also, when you go and work for anyone else, are you not also selling your body and mind in order to eat? Is that so hugely different?

Few if any people CHOOSE to be a prostitute in a free choice.... brain surgeon, accountant, cook, or prostitute. Most do it from need, or because they are forced. Many also have a drug problem which means they need quite a lot of money to maintain their habit, more than a regular job would normally provide, and a heroin addict is not very employable.

So try to be a little less judgemental.

It really is quite sad you put rapists in the same category as prostitutes.

Also, when you go and work for anyone else, are you not also selling your body and mind in order to eat? Is that so hugely different?

That might be considered prostitution,but then those who shift from one company to another after gaining sufficient expertise in their initial companies for the sake of higher wages can also be considered prostitutes as that is in sync with the definition for prostitution given by the B.J.P leader while exemplifying Mayawati.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

It really is quite sad you put rapists in the same category as prostitutes.

I did not dig up the relation between democracies and these two kinds of people.I did not hyphenate them.I only discussed the ramifications of democracy on the issue of prostitution or lack of fidelity or loyalty to one husband/lack of committment/selling of commitment for the sake of money and on the issue of the so called economic rape of the rich by the poor in a democracy.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

It is common for business people to sell the same products to new prospective customers at a higher price when their old customers are not that much forthcoming with their purses.Now can you also consider such people as prostitutes?

The B.J.P has a solid base of votes of Brahmins and Banias.Banias refers to the trader class in Hindi.Others too vote for it ,however that vote base is fluid or fluctuating.Now what would the afore mentioned party leader have to say about Banias indulging in such practices?

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Lord Kubera of the Old forum said that when Rome was on the verge of disintegration due to too much democracy,Egyptian God-King themed Roman Emperors assumed absolute power and prevented its further disintegration for time being.Chanakya ,the Canadian forummer of Sikh origin in the old forum said that Ram is only a king and just like all kings he loved being made God-King by the then Hindus.

Now I had also read in my childhood in a general knowledge book that there are some 50+ incarnations of Vishnu listed by the religious books ,only 10 of which are prominently remembered by Hindus.I have also read at a forum of the Hindu patriots themselves when they objectively said that the most prominent Gupta Emperor,Samudra Gupta was called a Vishnu incarnate.Per the Bhagavad Gita,Vishnu takes an incarnation whenever he has to put down evil and protect the righteous,so no wonder when a king considered righteous for averting anarchy comes to power,he was called Vishnu incarnate.Hence every king of Nepal was until recently considered Vishnu incarnate.The Batukamma festival story of Telangana also had the son-in-law of the ruling Chola king being called Vishnu incarnate.His name was Chakrangadudu.

Now sri Potuluri Veera Brahmendra Swamy,the most famous future delver of Andhra is also considered Vishnu incarnate and his muslim student Siddappa is considered incarnate of Shiva.One of his most famous prophecies is that due to excessive sins of the people,the city of Vijayawada will be completely immersed in floods of the river Krishna.So if one really believes in what this Vishnu incarnate said,they will not waste the tax payers money in making a capital that will be washed away in floods.Even from a scientific point of view,Vijayawada is in a flood prone and seismically active region and is not worth to be made a capital with tax funds from across the state.

But the fact that it was chosen as the new capital might show that the ruling elite knows completely well that much of the holiness surrounding these Vishnu incarnates/God-incarnates is just fabricated.Anyway if the rich support Emperors in the name of avoiding anarchy so as to avert the poor from taxing them,that will be the end of the concept of social justice.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

In the old forum,people said that Rome's longevity was prolonged when democracy,republic and senate were abolished and Caesers assumed absolute rule.Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.So in a dictatorship/monarchy where power is absolute,corruption will rule the roost.Now THHuxley of the old forum said that Latin America has a problem with dictatorships,why should we in the US be bothered about it?So were those dictatorships even more corrupt than the previous democracies or what?

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Now since the poor amongst Hindus of India cannot be made intelligent perhaps it would be apt for them to convert to Christianity as a result of which they are supposedly provided with free wheat and milk.For that reason it would be perhaps good if the Government of India relaxes the restrictions on the flow of missionary funds into the country.

It is in no way prostitution/presstitution.It simply is upliftment/argument in favor of upliftment.If the B.J.P ,Congress and military top brass can champion the cause of further upliftment of people of Telangana by forcibly separating it from A.P ,they must also support the same in case of the Hindu poor.

If the relatively prosperous Southern states can be taxed 2 to 3 times/3 to 4 times more than the Northern states for the sake of upliftment by the ruling elite of the country of India,they can also do the same by providing reservations of the same measure even to those that convert out of Hindu fold for the sake of upliftment.

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If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

An absolute dictator need not even be corrupt for things to go bad: just being wrong can be enough.Look at the modern tendency for democracies to be overpowered by presidents or similar. I've been astonished to see how much scope Trump has had for over-ruling much of Obama's doings - which would have happend the other way round too, of course, and they can't both be right.Likewise uk prime ministers are becoming more presidential: look at Theresa May's disastrous election, prompted by a small group of acolytes. Or the devastation that would be unleashed on the country if Corbyn and his cabal were in charge. Or indeed, was unleashed on Iraq by Blair and his "sofa cabinet".

‘Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs and literary traditions. They neither intermarry nor eat together, and indeed they belong to two different civilisations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions.’ Muhammad Ali Jinnah

These people had pipe dreams of an easy flow of oil from Iraq.What they underestimated was the steely grip Islam has on the people of that country.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Now one of the underlying and non-stated reasons for implementation of reservation is that once the educated cream amongst the backwards is given jobs,they will not care about upliftment of the rest and this will facilitate cheap labour from their castes to the landed castes/feudal castes.Now if reservations are not extended to the educated of the other religions such as Christianity,they might remain jobless and as a result might strive for awakening of class consciousness amongst their castes.Now this might stop the flow of cheap labour.Hence it would be better if reservations are also extended to those who even convert out of Indic religions.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Now according to some,rape is being done by govt officials/public employees etc when they take extraordinary high salaries at the expense of the private tax payers who are paid low.So the obvious solution being proposed is a cut in their salaries.I am too in favour of such a cut but not just in the present scenario when those of the lower class are beginning to experience upward mobility.Since the above scenario always existed from the time of British rule when nepotism ruled the roost,let all the assets accumulated by public servants by hook or crook from that period be appropriated.Then only would the situation become even.

One more interesting factor that I have observed and to be noted is that the percentage of hike is not as much as it once was.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Such are the ways of the kings.In my 8th standard Telugu text,there were a few poems written by Dhurjati,a famous poet.He himself was under the patronage of kings,yet he said rajul mattul vaarichhu ambojaakshi turaga bhuushanaadul dukha hetuvul which means the kings are addicts,the female slaves,the horses and the golden jewels that they give are a cause of sorrow.

In my 11th standard Telugu text,there was poetic lesson about about Vamana one of the incarnations of God Vishnu authored by a famous poet named Potana.In it , the demon king Bali Chakravarthy who is still worshipped by the Keralite Hindus asks Vamana what he wishes to have in donation.One of the items or properties on the list is women.

Shows that much admired absolute regimes of monarchies and dictatorships have no qualms with regards to sexual slavery.Of course even in modern day democracies where prostitution is illegal,prostitutes continue to thrive by bribing the police.Nevertheless atleast on the paper human trafficking/war captives for sexual slavery stands outlawed.People like ohmyrus and others who paint a rosy picture of monarchies or dictatorships or other such absolute regimes and defend them for the sake of upholding their economic privileges need to understand this fundamental point very well.People who use tampered EVMs to circumvent the will of people in democracies also need to understand it.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

And if it is the characteristic of prostitutes to ditch those who pay them less and go for those who pay them more,almost all political parties in any democracy are prostitutes as they collect money from both small individuals as well as big corporates for the sake of running the parties and then ditch the small individuals and serve big corporates.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

If Mayawati is prostitute for selling her tickets to the highest bidder,then surely many of the avid supporters of the B.J.P are also prostitutes when they take up jobs in one company,gain experience and then jump to another which offers them a higher salary.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

cheemalu pettina puttalu paamulapaalainatlu saamaanyulu kuudabettina dhanamu dharaneesula paalagu mahilo sumati.Now this is from a Telugu poem prior to Islamic invasions.It says that just like the ant-hills made by ants are appropriated by snakes,in this world,money accumulated by commoners will be confiscated by the kings.Such will be nature of absolute regimes.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

The FRDI bill in India about to become an Act will also do exactly the same as did happen in pre-Islamic periods in India with its 'bail in' clause.People will then cease to trust the government and its banks in its aftermath.As far as I can say,it is not a good thing if people lose trust in the very word 'government'.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

All that the FRDI bill will do is kill the crows and throw their flesh to eagles as they say in Telugu.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.

Post independence through fair price shops,successive governments have earned the trust of most poor and middle class people of India.By playing spoiler with FRDI bill,you will lose all that trust.

If special status could be granted to many states in India based on backwardness, then it can also be granted to remnant A. P which was deliberately rendered backward due to malicious policy of divide and rule.After division,percapita income of Telangana is Rs 20,000 /-more than that of remnant A.P.