What exactly is this? How is different from creatine. I am looking into this product because I am looking to avoid the bloating from regular creatine? Any ideas?

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While it's commonly thought creatinol-o-phosphate is essentially another form of creatine, it's a completely different chemical compound with completely separate ergogenic benefits as compared to any form of creatine.

I would recommend MCC though - give it a shot, sometimes it does potential a myriad of nice effects for mono non-responders. Also, you might consider taking one of the daily doses (two of three pills) pre-bed, as the magnesium sometimes enhances sleep.

While it's commonly thought creatinol-o-phosphate is essentially another form of creatine, it's a completely different chemical compound with completely separate ergogenic benefits as compared to any form of creatine.

I would recommend MCC though - give it a shot, sometimes it does potential a myriad of nice effects for mono non-responders. Also, you might consider taking one of the daily doses (two of three pills) pre-bed, as the magnesium sometimes enhances sleep.

Fixed . COP is great primarily for endurance and exercise capacity, as well as cardiac benefits. It won't cause you to hold water as it is not creatine.

And most bloating issues with monohydrate have potential to be alleviated with a creatine form that has an alternative form of uptake. Since CEE is bunk, that leaves Magnesium Creatine Chelate.

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Fixed . COP is great primarily for endurance and exercise capacity, as well as cardiac benefits. It won't cause you to hold water as it is not creatine.

And most bloating issues with monohydrate have potential to be alleviated with a creatine form that has an alternative form of uptake. Since CEE is bunk, that leaves Magnesium Creatine Chelate.

You have things nailed down, so all I can do is spread the awareness Coop.

2g of COP has had acute and cumulative benefits for me - combined with CM, I have been absolutely shattering personal records this week and it has been absolutely fantastic. Add to that stack some Magnesium Creatine Chelate and Beta Alanine from SNS and you're golden for a basic, economical stack that will hit almost every facet of performance you're looking to improve during your time in the gym.

I havent used any product with COP but of all forms of creatine I find the phosphated compounds to be the best options. Purely monohydrate has its benefits but more cons than pros for me. CEE is junk. I've been using NeoVar for a while and really impressed with the way it affects the appearance and performance of muscle tissue. Not quite Creatinol but still has the phospho group to shoot into the muscle tissue.

So what makes Creatinol so different? I've used krealkalyn and creatine phosphates and found them pretty good... this is news to me.

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I havent used any product with COP but of all forms of creatine I find the phosphated compounds to be the best options. Purely monohydrate has its benefits but more cons than pros for me. CEE is junk. I've been using NeoVar for a while and really impressed with the way it affects the appearance and performance of muscle tissue. Not quite Creatinol but still has the phospho group to shoot into the muscle tissue.

So what makes Creatinol so different? I've used krealkalyn and creatine phosphates and found them pretty good... this is news to me.

Creatinol-o-phosphate is not related to creatine in its method-of-action, and is an entirely different compound compared to various forms of creatine.

It does seem to share some of its ergogenic benefits, but this is as far as the similarities run.

Personally since running it I have had more endurance in terms of workout volume, I wouldn't say I've noticed strength increase but definitely can bang out more reps, also recovery time between sets is better and soreness after the workout is lessened.

Currently cutting and having no strength loss as of yet, want to include COP in a recomp/bulk and see how it does then.

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Personally since running it I have had more endurance in terms of workout volume, I wouldn't say I've noticed strength increase but definitely can bang out more reps, also recovery time between sets is better and soreness after the workout is lessened. Currently cutting and having no strength loss as of yet, want to include COP in a recomp/bulk and see how it does then.

I had a nearly identical experience. Nothing "cardio" related per say but def more workout volume and better intensity throughout

So what exactly is its method of action? Regenerates ATP? Lactic acid buffer?

When people say it increase "endurance" what exactly are we referring to, aerobic or anaerobic capacity?

To be honest I'm not a cyclist, so if its aerobic capacity I'm interested as it enhances performance and all effective ergogenic aids do interest me but not enough to go out and buy it.

Its MOA is not really understood at this stage. Very limited data on it. You could make an assumption that it has the potential to buffer a drop in intracellular PH which occurs during exercise and therefore prolong muscle contractions. I.e. as H+ ions accumulate during exercise (thus limiting it), COP has the potential to limit this effect and thus ensure you get out a few extra reps.

I've been taking SNS COP but the dose is 1.5 g compared to 4 g per day with prototype nutritions effervescent COP. Think I'm gonna switch back. And yea I dealt do think you're supposed to take it everyday. At least 1 gram on off days. So many conflicting opinions

Ps how is conquer? I mean as a prep workout in general? I would appreciate you opinion as I've noticed the only people who seem to sing its praises rep for Iforce -_- but it does seems to have a solid profile all be in a proprietary blend...

I also considered Peak Beta +. Solid company, good profile. I also considered Protocol V2...

Can you speak more of your experiences & also dosing on other days? Thanks

Personally, I only use it pre-workout (and not for cardio only workouts). I did not see much difference between dosing 6 and 8 caps; however, you may. This is one product I will continue to use. I have not used any other CP products, but found Peak Beta to be the best value. Give it a try - I have not seen anyone not react favourably.