At 03:01 PM 12/26/2008, George Farris wrote:
>When I push a button on the rf wall plate it sends a signal to the x10
>rf rcvr which in turn sends an X10 signal out on the power line. The
>Insteon PLM should then receive this signal (I've seen the led flash on
>the plm) and I'm looking for a way to access what it receives in MH.
Do you care whether you get the signal post it hitting the PLM? Or do
you just want to see the signal?
To capture the signal as it leaves the RF plate, you can use
something hooked to the PC that can read the RF. That would be the W800.
To capture the signal between the rf receiver and the Insteon PLM (in
other words as it shoots across the wire) I believe most people use
the CM11 hooked to the PC, but that would defeat the point of your
PLM probably.
All that being said, if you want the Insteon PLM to report to the PC
across RF232, you'll need someone else to help you :-), as I don't
have insteon.
FYI, If you haven't dealt with the phases on the powerline yet, keep
in mind you're WAY more likely to have success with the data making
it from the RF receiver on the powerline to anything else if they're
both on the same phase.
Hope that's helpful.
Rick
>Thanks

On Fri, 2008-12-26 at 07:50 -0600, Joe Greco wrote:
> I parse it, in the context of George originally talking about using a
> wireless switch. The answer is "yes it should and it probably does."
>
> The PLM definitely receives X10 from our legacy devices, including both
> wired and also wireless via a wireless receiver that's plugged in somewhere
> in the house. I see the events come in when I turn on PLM debugging.
>
> I expect that MH can be made to do something with the data, but I haven't
> done so.
>
> ... JG
Yes exactly, so how did you turn on PLM debugging and do you have any
idea how MH can access this data coming in from the PLM?
George

Functionality seems to break in SVN Revision 1573. Object gets set to desired initial state but the timer hash/slice is never set (or is nearly instantly removed) so subsequent event(s) never fire.
Thanks in advance.

At 08:50 AM 12/26/2008, Joe Greco wrote:
> > I really don't understand "it should read the RF command that is
> > wirelessly linked to the x10 unit plugged into the wall and which in
> > turn sends x10
> > commands on the power line."
>
>I parse it, in the context of George originally talking about using a
>wireless switch. The answer is "yes it should and it probably does."
>
>The PLM definitely receives X10 from our legacy devices, including both
>wired and also wireless via a wireless receiver that's plugged in somewhere
>in the house. I see the events come in when I turn on PLM debugging.
If you're looking for X10 to read RF and relay back to the powerline
then would x10_rf_relay.pl do what you want?
<http://mh/bin/browse.pl?/code/common/x10_rf_relay.pl>x10_rf_relay.pl
Relays selected X10 RF (Radio Frequency) data out to your X10
powerline interface. To enable a MR26 or W800RF32, set mh.ini
parameters MODEL_module=X10_MODEL and MODEL_port=COM#, where MODEL is
either MR26 or W800 (for W800RF32) (available from
<http://www.x10.com/products/x10_mr26a.htm>x10.com or
<http://www.wgldesigns.com>wgldesigns.com). Optionally set mh.ini
parm x10_relay_hc to a regex to limit which house codes to relay
(e.g. [ap] to relay only house codes a and p). Defaults to relaying
all house codes, which can slow down your X10 communications if you
have a lot of RF sensors. For more info, see comments at the top and
bottom of mh/lib/X10_MR26.pm and X10_W800.pm.
<http://mh/bin/code_select.pl#>EDIT Config parms:
<http://mh/bin/code_select.pl#>x10_errata,
<http://mh/bin/code_select.pl#>x10_relay_hc
Rick

> Generally I don't think the basic X10 (wired) light switches send a
> signal when you use the light switch. (at least mine don't). They
> certainly don't send RF.
SmartHome's pre-Insteon X10 line did offer some two-way devices (1182i or
11821, for example, was a two-way 1000w dimmer in ivory), and there have
been a variety of others, though I'm not finding my notes at the moment.
The ability to send a signal is, obviously, an important method for
implementing a 2-or-more-way switch setup, but as noted, this generally
falls outside the realm of the basic X10 device.
> I use one of the RF (wireless) switches which send a signal to the
> W800, which in turn sends it to misterhouse to act upon.
> Examples would be the palm pad:
> http://www.x10wirelesshome.com/remotes/x10_palmpad_remote_hr12a.html
> or slimline switch
> http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Slimline_Switch
>
> If you use a base X10 wired light switch and change the status of the
> light, Misterhouse doesn't know about it.
That's correct, but it wasn't what George had been talking about, I
think.
> I really don't understand "it should read the RF command that is
> wirelessly linked to the x10 unit plugged into the wall and which in
> turn sends x10
> commands on the power line."
I parse it, in the context of George originally talking about using a
wireless switch. The answer is "yes it should and it probably does."
The PLM definitely receives X10 from our legacy devices, including both
wired and also wireless via a wireless receiver that's plugged in somewhere
in the house. I see the events come in when I turn on PLM debugging.
I expect that MH can be made to do something with the data, but I haven't
done so.
... JG
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Generally I don't think the basic X10 (wired) light switches send a
signal when you use the light switch. (at least mine don't). They
certainly don't send RF.
I use one of the RF (wireless) switches which send a signal to the
W800, which in turn sends it to misterhouse to act upon.
Examples would be the palm pad:
http://www.x10wirelesshome.com/remotes/x10_palmpad_remote_hr12a.html
or slimline switch
http://kbase.x10.com/wiki/Slimline_Switch
If you use a base X10 wired light switch and change the status of the
light, Misterhouse doesn't know about it.
I really don't understand "it should read the RF command that is
wirelessly linked to the x10 unit plugged into the wall and which in
turn sends x10
commands on the power line."
Rick
At 12:34 AM 12/26/2008, George Farris wrote:
>On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 13:39 -0500, Brian Warren wrote:
>
> > The PLM is a powerline only device. You do need something like the W800
> > to capture X10 RF.
> >
>
>Well I thought the PLM was able to pick up x10 commands from say a
>regular wall switch, is this not the case? If I turn a light on from a
>wall switch does MH not get status that it has turned on?
>
>If it does then it should read the RF command that is wirelessly linked
>to the x10 unit plugged into the wall and which in turn sends x10
>commands on the power line.
>
>Cheers
>
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On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 13:39 -0500, Brian Warren wrote:
> The PLM is a powerline only device. You do need something like the W800
> to capture X10 RF.
>
Well I thought the PLM was able to pick up x10 commands from say a
regular wall switch, is this not the case? If I turn a light on from a
wall switch does MH not get status that it has turned on?
If it does then it should read the RF command that is wirelessly linked
to the x10 unit plugged into the wall and which in turn sends x10
commands on the power line.
Cheers