NEWPORT Stadium could become the latest casualty of proposed cuts by Newport City Council in a bid to save £50,000.

The stadium, former home of Newport County, has been at the heart of city sport for years, but could be scrapped or be taken over by a third party to help balance the 2014/15 budget.

In the report to the council’s scrutiny committee on the 2013/14 budget and a fiveyear middle-term financial plan, a list of possible savings proposes “closure of Newport Stadium – request operator expressions of interest”. The proposal is part of a list of proposed service investments and savings which the committee will be invited to comment on.

The report says: “The financial position, over the medium term and next year in particular is very challenging and there is little scope to stop any of the savings without an alternative being available.”

The proposal regarding the stadiumstates that the site is not currently staffed unless there is a booking that covers the staff costs, and savings will result from premises costs of a third party being responsible for all repairs and maintenance and also grounds maintenance.

It states there will also be an additional saving for Streetscene of not maintaining the pitch.

Comments presented by the scrutiny committee on the proposals will be included in formal consultation feedback to the cabinet.

A Newport council spokeswoman said: “Newport City Council is looking at all its services in the light of the need to make significant savings over the next five years.

“Work to explore the best way forward for the stadium will start during 2013. Any proposals regarding a change in operator will be included in the options for in-house or external delivery of sport and leisure facilities.”

Chief executive of Newport County Dave Boddy said that although the club was nowat Rodney Parade it still held an interest in the stadium.

He said he planed to meet the council on Wednesday to discuss issues which would likely include the stadium.

This proposal is the latest wave in a host of cuts proposed by the council to balance its books, as a result of central Government austerity measures.

Newport Stadium is not the only athletics arena in Gwent to hit the headlines.

Last week the Argus reported that Cwmbran Stadium has been banned from hosting competitions after UK Athletics decided to withdrawthe competition licence from Torfaen council because it fell below required safety levels.

Athletics’ future is in the balance, say the Harriers

KEN Goodyear, Secretary of Newport Harriers athletics club, who use the stadium as their base, said: “It would not be a very good legacy for Newport less than two years after the Olympics to not have an athletics facility.

“If we are going to have Commonwealth and Olympic athletes of the future you need coaches and facilities to get them to that level.

“The irony is we are growing all the time and now have more members than ever before.”

Mr Goodyear said he understood the pressure the council was under, particularly now it wasn’t receiving the same level of money coming into the stadium as when Newport County AFC were there.

“The pitch is still being maintained to a football league standard because Newport County have the option to come back, and there are things like football league standard floodlights which we wouldn’t need just for athletics so that dual-purpose nature of it does make it expensive.

“And with athletics at this level being much more of a participation sport than a spectator sport, we can’t fill the gap left by County not being there,” he said.

Mr Goodyear said the club hoped to speak to the council in more detail about its future plans for the stadium.

Comments (61)

I would argue this was probably the main reason why the income of Newport County was lost in the first place - because the pitch was not even Sunday league standard and the Council couldn't afford to repair it.

Why is it that every other City in the UK seems to have a Council that is able to help its resident sports associations, yet in Newport we always seem to get lumbered with scraps?

“The pitch is still being maintained to a football league standard"
I would argue this was probably the main reason why the income of Newport County was lost in the first place - because the pitch was not even Sunday league standard and the Council couldn't afford to repair it.
Why is it that every other City in the UK seems to have a Council that is able to help its resident sports associations, yet in Newport we always seem to get lumbered with scraps?ncfcr

ncfcr, Easy that one, the Olympic Legacy of last year has fell onto our LABOUR led COUNCIL....i don't know how many Executives the Council have on the books but a cut across the board there salaries could probably cover that...£50K but hay it's a Labour Council nothing will happen there, only excuses, like we'll have to shut day care homes, meals on wheels, care homes etc, i bet the Councilors still have there Jolly boys though....and all foreigners are still feed and housed at the Council tax payers expense....

ncfcr, Easy that one, the Olympic Legacy of last year has fell onto our LABOUR led COUNCIL....i don't know how many Executives the Council have on the books but a cut across the board there salaries could probably cover that...£50K but hay it's a Labour Council nothing will happen there, only excuses, like we'll have to shut day care homes, meals on wheels, care homes etc, i bet the Councilors still have there Jolly boys though....and all foreigners are still feed and housed at the Council tax payers expense....welshmen

I know a sure fire way to save a great deal of money. Do not pay councillors. The majority have no business acumen, and most claim every expense under the sun. Tell me, why do they need to claim for food, every one needs to eat? Can I claim my lunch money back from my
Employer? I think not!!

I will tell you why nfrc;
IT IS BECAUSE LIEBOR HAVE BEEN VOTED BACK INTO POWER.
Expect more cuts to be on the way like this.
I know a sure fire way to save a great deal of money. Do not pay councillors. The majority have no business acumen, and most claim every expense under the sun. Tell me, why do they need to claim for food, every one needs to eat? Can I claim my lunch money back from my
Employer? I think not!!skipbifferty

Unless you get to grips with the largest items of expenditure - Social Services - this is one of those decisions that will have to be made.

It is evident the Labour leadership in Newport are struggling big time. There is no strategic sense of what is important and vision for the town.

Unless you get to grips with the largest items of expenditure - Social Services - this is one of those decisions that will have to be made.
It is evident the Labour leadership in Newport are struggling big time. There is no strategic sense of what is important and vision for the town.Severn40

For heavens sake I hope the Ivory Towers gravytrainers don't close Spytty stadium or we'll never get the County out of Rodney Parade and our Saturday afternoon rugby back.How can a "city" not have an athletics track.It's typical of them they get very little right.

For heavens sake I hope the Ivory Towers gravytrainers don't close Spytty stadium or we'll never get the County out of Rodney Parade and our Saturday afternoon rugby back.How can a "city" not have an athletics track.It's typical of them they get very little right.foxy3rd

foxy3rd wrote:
For heavens sake I hope the Ivory Towers gravytrainers don't close Spytty stadium or we'll never get the County out of Rodney Parade and our Saturday afternoon rugby back.How can a &quot;city" not have an athletics track.It's typical of them they get very little right.

Maybe Newport RFC could sell RP to Gwent Dragons and Newport county, and buy the stadium. Ooops that's just silly, those two clubs haven't got the proverbial pot to relieve themselves in.

[quote][p][bold]foxy3rd[/bold] wrote:
For heavens sake I hope the Ivory Towers gravytrainers don't close Spytty stadium or we'll never get the County out of Rodney Parade and our Saturday afternoon rugby back.How can a "city" not have an athletics track.It's typical of them they get very little right.[/p][/quote]Maybe Newport RFC could sell RP to Gwent Dragons and Newport county, and buy the stadium. Ooops that's just silly, those two clubs haven't got the proverbial pot to relieve themselves in.Mr Bump.

Know what you mean Mr. Bump, but Rodney Parade is the ideal location even with the corpa entrance closed.The county will always need at least one crutch.I wonder if the fella who runs the Big Issue can help them out. ;-)

Know what you mean Mr. Bump, but Rodney Parade is the ideal location even with the corpa entrance closed.The county will always need at least one crutch.I wonder if the fella who runs the Big Issue can help them out. ;-)foxy3rd

rhinestine wrote:
Newport is on the edge of collapse.....the strain on resources due to vast influxes of non-working people from other countries is taking its toll on us........

Absolute rubbish.

[quote][p][bold]rhinestine[/bold] wrote:
Newport is on the edge of collapse.....the strain on resources due to vast influxes of non-working people from other countries is taking its toll on us........[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish.Mr Bump.

Are Newport Council looking to close everything down? care homes, libraries, restbite homes, squash courts etc etc.
If they carry on the way its going a council wont be needed because they will have nothing to run!

Are Newport Council looking to close everything down? care homes, libraries, restbite homes, squash courts etc etc.
If they carry on the way its going a council wont be needed because they will have nothing to run!newportboy1981

rhinestine wrote:
Newport is on the edge of collapse.....the strain on resources due to vast influxes of non-working people from other countries is taking its toll on us........

Absolute rubbish.

No it's not.......and you know I am right

[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]rhinestine[/bold] wrote:
Newport is on the edge of collapse.....the strain on resources due to vast influxes of non-working people from other countries is taking its toll on us........[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish.[/p][/quote]No it's not.......and you know I am rightrhinestine

First thing is to stop maintaining it for Newport AFC. If they want to maintain an option to come back they pay the costs

Turn off ther floodlights. Anyone wanting to use it after dark has to pay for the cost of the floodlights being on

Clubs and people using the stadium to pay increased charges

First thing is to stop maintaining it for Newport AFC. If they want to maintain an option to come back they pay the costs
Turn off ther floodlights. Anyone wanting to use it after dark has to pay for the cost of the floodlights being on
Clubs and people using the stadium to pay increased chargesBobevans

rhinestine wrote:
Newport is on the edge of collapse.....the strain on resources due to vast influxes of non-working people from other countries is taking its toll on us........

Absolute rubbish.

No it's not.......and you know I am right

Yeah, i know you're right, Right wing.

[quote][p][bold]rhinestine[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]rhinestine[/bold] wrote:
Newport is on the edge of collapse.....the strain on resources due to vast influxes of non-working people from other countries is taking its toll on us........[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish.[/p][/quote]No it's not.......and you know I am right[/p][/quote]Yeah, i know you're right, Right wing.Mr Bump.

rhinestine wrote:
Newport is on the edge of collapse.....the strain on resources due to vast influxes of non-working people from other countries is taking its toll on us........

Absolute rubbish.

No it's not.......and you know I am right

When i ask at my Doctors how is the immigration effecting the practice,reply, "we are not taking anymore on, we are over our quota" when i wrote to the Housing Dept on a freedom of information Act inquiry, how many foreign and EU immigrants were housed compared to indigenous in my ward, were 165 foreign and EU immigrants 87 indigenous British, my request for asylum seekers was not answered, i have been unsuccessful trying to locate a Dentist for fillings....Liberal comments such as rubbish, "Liberalism" is not so much about knowing as it is about not knowing, it's pretending to know more than you know, it's the empty gestures, the loud protest and the snide remark when ever they disagree,next they'll start banding you as racist's, sexist, homophobic, or Islamaphobic as to what topic your commenting on that they don't agree with....

[quote][p][bold]rhinestine[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]rhinestine[/bold] wrote:
Newport is on the edge of collapse.....the strain on resources due to vast influxes of non-working people from other countries is taking its toll on us........[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish.[/p][/quote]No it's not.......and you know I am right[/p][/quote]When i ask at my Doctors how is the immigration effecting the practice,reply, "we are not taking anymore on, we are over our quota" when i wrote to the Housing Dept on a freedom of information Act inquiry, how many foreign and EU immigrants were housed compared to indigenous in my ward, were 165 foreign and EU immigrants 87 indigenous British, my request for asylum seekers was not answered, i have been unsuccessful trying to locate a Dentist for fillings....Liberal comments such as rubbish, "Liberalism" is not so much about knowing as it is about not knowing, it's pretending to know more than you know, it's the empty gestures, the loud protest and the snide remark when ever they disagree,next they'll start banding you as racist's, sexist, homophobic, or Islamaphobic as to what topic your commenting on that they don't agree with....welshmen

After recent events and the demolition of our former home at Queensway Meadows, I for one would love to see Newport Speedway make a return to the city, and what a superb venue this would make for the sport!

After recent events and the demolition of our former home at Queensway Meadows, I for one would love to see Newport Speedway make a return to the city, and what a superb venue this would make for the sport!Wayne Evans

Give it to Newport County for £1 saving all the running costs, perhaps they will in time turn it into a real football stadium, no-one watches athletics anyway except when the olympics are on.

Give it to Newport County for £1 saving all the running costs, perhaps they will in time turn it into a real football stadium, no-one watches athletics anyway except when the olympics are on.lowandhardandinthecorner

Bobevans wrote:
First thing is to stop maintaining it for Newport AFC. If they want to maintain an option to come back they pay the costs

Turn off ther floodlights. Anyone wanting to use it after dark has to pay for the cost of the floodlights being on

Clubs and people using the stadium to pay increased charges

Newport County have to decide very soon whether they want to stay at Rodney Parade. They have an option to return to Newport Stadium for next season but if they do not take up the option their rights to NS end. So there will be no need to maintain the stadium at football league level. Personally I would like to see County take over Newport Stadium but only if it was for football only. Athletics and professional football just don't mix very well.

[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote:
First thing is to stop maintaining it for Newport AFC. If they want to maintain an option to come back they pay the costs
Turn off ther floodlights. Anyone wanting to use it after dark has to pay for the cost of the floodlights being on
Clubs and people using the stadium to pay increased charges[/p][/quote]Newport County have to decide very soon whether they want to stay at Rodney Parade. They have an option to return to Newport Stadium for next season but if they do not take up the option their rights to NS end. So there will be no need to maintain the stadium at football league level. Personally I would like to see County take over Newport Stadium but only if it was for football only. Athletics and professional football just don't mix very well.D Taylor

i was told that the city council is skint they blew all their money on the ryder cup and it has back fired drastically, why dont they just give it to the county and let them pay for the drainage, with no rent to pay them robbing **** up the council, surely it would be worthwhile in the long run??

i was told that the city council is skint they blew all their money on the ryder cup and it has back fired drastically, why dont they just give it to the county and let them pay for the drainage, with no rent to pay them robbing **** up the council, surely it would be worthwhile in the long run??JENKO1965

Liberal policies of the last 20-30 are coming home to roost. No one asked for mass immigration into this country but thats what we got. You cannot expect to keep allowing people into the country in the 100s of thousands. You see the consequences evetwhere. From over-stretched roads,schools filled to busting and the NHS creaking at the seams.
We also have a political class who have had their snouts in the trough for so long they now think its their right to pay themselves as they do. We also have far too many politicians and councillors. Add on to this the Welsh Assembly. It is all unaffordable. The sooner the penny drops the better.

Liberal policies of the last 20-30 are coming home to roost. No one asked for mass immigration into this country but thats what we got. You cannot expect to keep allowing people into the country in the 100s of thousands. You see the consequences evetwhere. From over-stretched roads,schools filled to busting and the NHS creaking at the seams.
We also have a political class who have had their snouts in the trough for so long they now think its their right to pay themselves as they do. We also have far too many politicians and councillors. Add on to this the Welsh Assembly. It is all unaffordable. The sooner the penny drops the better.Newport Spark

Surely we dont need all these councillors. Get rid of one a year and then we would be saving salary and expenses. The Councillors are full of what they have achieved...... Lets see what the people of Newport can do without them.

Surely we dont need all these councillors. Get rid of one a year and then we would be saving salary and expenses. The Councillors are full of what they have achieved...... Lets see what the people of Newport can do without them.harryfan

Newport Museum and Art Gallery brings in 28,000 people a year to the city bringing in much needed revenue to an impoverished city. There are more empty shops and derelict properties in Newport than anywhere else in Wales.

We have heard the the Council also plans to close the Art Gallery, Library and Museum in John Frost Square to make way for a shopping mall.

Why is no one objecting to their plans? Please join our campaign to stop them and write to your MP and local councillor. If there are no complaints they will do what they want. Public opinion can change minds.

The Council are also shutting down Newport Art Gallery's Temporary Exhibitions Programme to make a saving of £40,000. We've started a petition to try and stop it here:
http://www.change.or
g/en-GB/petitions/ne
wport-city-council-s
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bitions-programme
Newport Museum and Art Gallery brings in 28,000 people a year to the city bringing in much needed revenue to an impoverished city. There are more empty shops and derelict properties in Newport than anywhere else in Wales.
We have heard the the Council also plans to close the Art Gallery, Library and Museum in John Frost Square to make way for a shopping mall.
Why is no one objecting to their plans? Please join our campaign to stop them and write to your MP and local councillor. If there are no complaints they will do what they want. Public opinion can change minds.savenewportart

Open your eyes the cuts are affecting every Council take a look at the savings needed in Cardiff Council for example. Newport has to save millions year on year so any assets will need to be considered. An option would be to find an operator to make the atheltics track viable but as with sports stadiums this won't be easy.

Open your eyes the cuts are affecting every Council take a look at the savings needed in Cardiff Council for example. Newport has to save millions year on year so any assets will need to be considered. An option would be to find an operator to make the atheltics track viable but as with sports stadiums this won't be easy.Limestonecowboy

Newport Spark wrote:
Liberal policies of the last 20-30 are coming home to roost. No one asked for mass immigration into this country but thats what we got. You cannot expect to keep allowing people into the country in the 100s of thousands. You see the consequences evetwhere. From over-stretched roads,schools filled to busting and the NHS creaking at the seams.
We also have a political class who have had their snouts in the trough for so long they now think its their right to pay themselves as they do. We also have far too many politicians and councillors. Add on to this the Welsh Assembly. It is all unaffordable. The sooner the penny drops the better.

I have never understood why I need a councillor, AM, MEP and MP looking after my interests, now if you were to remove the middle two, some of the ones who at least have some business acumen may replace the current council members who are simply out of their depth.

[quote][p][bold]Newport Spark[/bold] wrote:
Liberal policies of the last 20-30 are coming home to roost. No one asked for mass immigration into this country but thats what we got. You cannot expect to keep allowing people into the country in the 100s of thousands. You see the consequences evetwhere. From over-stretched roads,schools filled to busting and the NHS creaking at the seams.
We also have a political class who have had their snouts in the trough for so long they now think its their right to pay themselves as they do. We also have far too many politicians and councillors. Add on to this the Welsh Assembly. It is all unaffordable. The sooner the penny drops the better.[/p][/quote]I have never understood why I need a councillor, AM, MEP and MP looking after my interests, now if you were to remove the middle two, some of the ones who at least have some business acumen may replace the current council members who are simply out of their depth.Ranger12

It would be usefull to see a breakdown of cost to see where costs can be taken out.

Usually with Council run facilities they are over staffed

Charges for using the facillites could be increased and opening hours could be reduced

It would be usefull to see a breakdown of cost to see where costs can be taken out.
Usually with Council run facilities they are over staffed
Charges for using the facillites could be increased and opening hours could be reducedBobevans

foxy3rd wrote:
For heavens sake I hope the Ivory Towers gravytrainers don't close Spytty stadium or we'll never get the County out of Rodney Parade and our Saturday afternoon rugby back.How can a &quot;city" not have an athletics track.It's typical of them they get very little right.

There is little demand for athletics. If you can cover the £50K shortfull it is not a problem

People are usually keen to say they want facilities but most never use them and the ones that do will not pay an economic price..

[quote][p][bold]foxy3rd[/bold] wrote:
For heavens sake I hope the Ivory Towers gravytrainers don't close Spytty stadium or we'll never get the County out of Rodney Parade and our Saturday afternoon rugby back.How can a "city" not have an athletics track.It's typical of them they get very little right.[/p][/quote]There is little demand for athletics. If you can cover the £50K shortfull it is not a problem
People are usually keen to say they want facilities but most never use them and the ones that do will not pay an economic price..Bobevans

foxy3rd wrote:
For heavens sake I hope the Ivory Towers gravytrainers don't close Spytty stadium or we'll never get the County out of Rodney Parade and our Saturday afternoon rugby back.How can a &quot;city" not have an athletics track.It's typical of them they get very little right.

There is little demand for athletics. If you can cover the £50K shortfull it is not a problem

People are usually keen to say they want facilities but most never use them and the ones that do will not pay an economic price..

There is a demand for athletics.Have you seen Jessica Ennis ?

[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]foxy3rd[/bold] wrote:
For heavens sake I hope the Ivory Towers gravytrainers don't close Spytty stadium or we'll never get the County out of Rodney Parade and our Saturday afternoon rugby back.How can a "city" not have an athletics track.It's typical of them they get very little right.[/p][/quote]There is little demand for athletics. If you can cover the £50K shortfull it is not a problem
People are usually keen to say they want facilities but most never use them and the ones that do will not pay an economic price..[/p][/quote]There is a demand for athletics.Have you seen Jessica Ennis ?33daverave

JUST REMEMBBER HONEST RATEPAYERS YOUR COUNCIL BLEW £342000 THOUSAND POUNDS OF YOUR MONEY ON THEIR CRASS ATTACK ON NEWPORT TAXI DRIVERS ,NOW THE ARE COMING UP WITH THESE WEIRD AND WONDERFUL IDEAS TO SAVE MONEY,THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED ,BUT NOT BY THE COUNCIL AS PREVIOUSLY DONE.

JUST REMEMBBER HONEST RATEPAYERS YOUR COUNCIL BLEW £342000 THOUSAND POUNDS OF YOUR MONEY ON THEIR CRASS ATTACK ON NEWPORT TAXI DRIVERS ,NOW THE ARE COMING UP WITH THESE WEIRD AND WONDERFUL IDEAS TO SAVE MONEY,THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED ,BUT NOT BY THE COUNCIL AS PREVIOUSLY DONE.snafu1

snafu1 wrote:
JUST REMEMBBER HONEST RATEPAYERS YOUR COUNCIL BLEW £342000 THOUSAND POUNDS OF YOUR MONEY ON THEIR CRASS ATTACK ON NEWPORT TAXI DRIVERS ,NOW THE ARE COMING UP WITH THESE WEIRD AND WONDERFUL IDEAS TO SAVE MONEY,THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED ,BUT NOT BY THE COUNCIL AS PREVIOUSLY DONE.

Wow thats £340m. I don't believe that for a second. Let me guess, you are a taxi driver right?

[quote][p][bold]snafu1[/bold] wrote:
JUST REMEMBBER HONEST RATEPAYERS YOUR COUNCIL BLEW £342000 THOUSAND POUNDS OF YOUR MONEY ON THEIR CRASS ATTACK ON NEWPORT TAXI DRIVERS ,NOW THE ARE COMING UP WITH THESE WEIRD AND WONDERFUL IDEAS TO SAVE MONEY,THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED ,BUT NOT BY THE COUNCIL AS PREVIOUSLY DONE.[/p][/quote]Wow thats £340m. I don't believe that for a second. Let me guess, you are a taxi driver right?Mr Bump.

So it looks like the council are looking to offload something thats of no use and costing them money. Can we rename it the 'Torres' Stadium for now

In one way I do feel sorry for the Newport Harriers, but then I also remember how awkward they used to make life for the County at times.

So it looks like the council are looking to offload something thats of no use and costing them money. Can we rename it the 'Torres' Stadium for now
In one way I do feel sorry for the Newport Harriers, but then I also remember how awkward they used to make life for the County at times.Mr G Went

jeany1 wrote:
There is high demand for athletics in Newport. The u11 age group alone has more than 60 athletes and a large waiting list as well. Training nights at the track are extremely busy!

If there were high demand it would not be making a loss.

If you want to use it then you are going to have to pay realistic rates to use it.

[quote][p][bold]jeany1[/bold] wrote:
There is high demand for athletics in Newport. The u11 age group alone has more than 60 athletes and a large waiting list as well. Training nights at the track are extremely busy![/p][/quote]If there were high demand it would not be making a loss.
If you want to use it then you are going to have to pay realistic rates to use it.Bobevans

Its only £50k - surely if they stop spending on subsiding everyone on the social, immigrants, translation services etc then this we easily be covered.

Perhaps for all money that NBC ploughed into the Ryder Cup for Sir Terrence he'd be happy to subsidise this for them because the Ryder cup did nothing for Newport (which everyone said).

Like Torfaen all councils will be doing is subsidising all on the social and the true working class will be busting a gut to earn £25k.

Its only £50k - surely if they stop spending on subsiding everyone on the social, immigrants, translation services etc then this we easily be covered.
Perhaps for all money that NBC ploughed into the Ryder Cup for Sir Terrence he'd be happy to subsidise this for them because the Ryder cup did nothing for Newport (which everyone said).
Like Torfaen all councils will be doing is subsidising all on the social and the true working class will be busting a gut to earn £25k.Floppy backed

rhinestine wrote:
Newport is on the edge of collapse.....the strain on resources due to vast influxes of non-working people from other countries is taking its toll on us........

Absolute rubbish.

It is bound to have some effect.

[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]rhinestine[/bold] wrote:
Newport is on the edge of collapse.....the strain on resources due to vast influxes of non-working people from other countries is taking its toll on us........[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish.[/p][/quote]It is bound to have some effect.Cymru Am Beth

Newport Spark wrote:
Liberal policies of the last 20-30 are coming home to roost. No one asked for mass immigration into this country but thats what we got. You cannot expect to keep allowing people into the country in the 100s of thousands. You see the consequences evetwhere. From over-stretched roads,schools filled to busting and the NHS creaking at the seams.
We also have a political class who have had their snouts in the trough for so long they now think its their right to pay themselves as they do. We also have far too many politicians and councillors. Add on to this the Welsh Assembly. It is all unaffordable. The sooner the penny drops the better.

Absolutely agree.
What about the expected influx of Romanians and people from other 'sink countries'.
We are not in a position to refuse citizens of the EU.
They are in a 'win win' situation.
We welcome these Countries in who havn't got a pot to p**s in and we end up picking up the tab.

[quote][p][bold]Newport Spark[/bold] wrote:
Liberal policies of the last 20-30 are coming home to roost. No one asked for mass immigration into this country but thats what we got. You cannot expect to keep allowing people into the country in the 100s of thousands. You see the consequences evetwhere. From over-stretched roads,schools filled to busting and the NHS creaking at the seams.
We also have a political class who have had their snouts in the trough for so long they now think its their right to pay themselves as they do. We also have far too many politicians and councillors. Add on to this the Welsh Assembly. It is all unaffordable. The sooner the penny drops the better.[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree.
What about the expected influx of Romanians and people from other 'sink countries'.
We are not in a position to refuse citizens of the EU.
They are in a 'win win' situation.
We welcome these Countries in who havn't got a pot to p**s in and we end up picking up the tab.Cymru Am Beth

Newport Spark wrote:
Liberal policies of the last 20-30 are coming home to roost. No one asked for mass immigration into this country but thats what we got. You cannot expect to keep allowing people into the country in the 100s of thousands. You see the consequences evetwhere. From over-stretched roads,schools filled to busting and the NHS creaking at the seams.
We also have a political class who have had their snouts in the trough for so long they now think its their right to pay themselves as they do. We also have far too many politicians and councillors. Add on to this the Welsh Assembly. It is all unaffordable. The sooner the penny drops the better.

Absolutely agree.
What about the expected influx of Romanians and people from other 'sink countries'.
We are not in a position to refuse citizens of the EU.
They are in a 'win win' situation.
We welcome these Countries in who havn't got a pot to p**s in and we end up picking up the tab.

There is nothing stopping you selling up going to Romania replacing the missing hoardes, and living the life of a king in relative solitude then is there? Bon voyage and good riddance.

[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Newport Spark[/bold] wrote:
Liberal policies of the last 20-30 are coming home to roost. No one asked for mass immigration into this country but thats what we got. You cannot expect to keep allowing people into the country in the 100s of thousands. You see the consequences evetwhere. From over-stretched roads,schools filled to busting and the NHS creaking at the seams.
We also have a political class who have had their snouts in the trough for so long they now think its their right to pay themselves as they do. We also have far too many politicians and councillors. Add on to this the Welsh Assembly. It is all unaffordable. The sooner the penny drops the better.[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree.
What about the expected influx of Romanians and people from other 'sink countries'.
We are not in a position to refuse citizens of the EU.
They are in a 'win win' situation.
We welcome these Countries in who havn't got a pot to p**s in and we end up picking up the tab.[/p][/quote]There is nothing stopping you selling up going to Romania replacing the missing hoardes, and living the life of a king in relative solitude then is there? Bon voyage and good riddance.Mr Bump.

Newport Spark wrote:
Liberal policies of the last 20-30 are coming home to roost. No one asked for mass immigration into this country but thats what we got. You cannot expect to keep allowing people into the country in the 100s of thousands. You see the consequences evetwhere. From over-stretched roads,schools filled to busting and the NHS creaking at the seams.
We also have a political class who have had their snouts in the trough for so long they now think its their right to pay themselves as they do. We also have far too many politicians and councillors. Add on to this the Welsh Assembly. It is all unaffordable. The sooner the penny drops the better.

Absolutely agree.
What about the expected influx of Romanians and people from other 'sink countries'.
We are not in a position to refuse citizens of the EU.
They are in a 'win win' situation.
We welcome these Countries in who havn't got a pot to p**s in and we end up picking up the tab.

There is nothing stopping you selling up going to Romania replacing the missing hoardes, and living the life of a king in relative solitude then is there? Bon voyage and good riddance.

I don't think that anybody would want to live in Romania, that just proves my point.
They all want to come over here because they know that they will be showered with benefits and free housing.
That is why these Countries want to join the EU, but they have nothing to offer in return.
They know that they are not going to get hoardes of British people wanting to go to Romania. That's pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain.

[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Newport Spark[/bold] wrote:
Liberal policies of the last 20-30 are coming home to roost. No one asked for mass immigration into this country but thats what we got. You cannot expect to keep allowing people into the country in the 100s of thousands. You see the consequences evetwhere. From over-stretched roads,schools filled to busting and the NHS creaking at the seams.
We also have a political class who have had their snouts in the trough for so long they now think its their right to pay themselves as they do. We also have far too many politicians and councillors. Add on to this the Welsh Assembly. It is all unaffordable. The sooner the penny drops the better.[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree.
What about the expected influx of Romanians and people from other 'sink countries'.
We are not in a position to refuse citizens of the EU.
They are in a 'win win' situation.
We welcome these Countries in who havn't got a pot to p**s in and we end up picking up the tab.[/p][/quote]There is nothing stopping you selling up going to Romania replacing the missing hoardes, and living the life of a king in relative solitude then is there? Bon voyage and good riddance.[/p][/quote]I don't think that anybody would want to live in Romania, that just proves my point.
They all want to come over here because they know that they will be showered with benefits and free housing.
That is why these Countries want to join the EU, but they have nothing to offer in return.
They know that they are not going to get hoardes of British people wanting to go to Romania. That's pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain.Cymru Am Beth

My daughter is one of the 60+ U11s that use the track for athletics. Let's just let them all roam the streets shall we. At least these kids are doing so something constructive and not sitting around playing computer games. Another thing to be taken away from them.

My daughter is one of the 60+ U11s that use the track for athletics. Let's just let them all roam the streets shall we. At least these kids are doing so something constructive and not sitting around playing computer games. Another thing to be taken away from them.Mwy Eira

Mwy Eira wrote:
My daughter is one of the 60+ U11s that use the track for athletics. Let's just let them all roam the streets shall we. At least these kids are doing so something constructive and not sitting around playing computer games. Another thing to be taken away from them.

THen pay an economic rate to use these facilities or use a local park

[quote][p][bold]Mwy Eira[/bold] wrote:
My daughter is one of the 60+ U11s that use the track for athletics. Let's just let them all roam the streets shall we. At least these kids are doing so something constructive and not sitting around playing computer games. Another thing to be taken away from them.[/p][/quote]THen pay an economic rate to use these facilities or use a local parkBobevans

Mr Bump. wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting 19m Romanians want to upsticks, ignore every other EU country and relocate to the UK to live on benefits? Get a grip you nutter.

Are you seriously deficient in brain matter.
Did I say every Romanian wants to come here?
The top-up effect of allowing further immigrants in is bound to have some impact.
What have you got a degree in? Media Studies I expect, if you have one at all.

[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting 19m Romanians want to upsticks, ignore every other EU country and relocate to the UK to live on benefits? Get a grip you nutter.[/p][/quote]Are you seriously deficient in brain matter.
Did I say every Romanian wants to come here?
The top-up effect of allowing further immigrants in is bound to have some impact.
What have you got a degree in? Media Studies I expect, if you have one at all.Cymru Am Beth

I reckons they should turn it into a travellers site like. Plenty of space in the car park for their wagons like and then they could use the track for racing their carts around like.
Warra clever idea like.

I reckons they should turn it into a travellers site like. Plenty of space in the car park for their wagons like and then they could use the track for racing their carts around like.
Warra clever idea like.Goldy_Lookin_Clart

Mwy Eira wrote:
My daughter is one of the 60+ U11s that use the track for athletics. Let's just let them all roam the streets shall we. At least these kids are doing so something constructive and not sitting around playing computer games. Another thing to be taken away from them.

THen pay an economic rate to use these facilities or use a local park

My local park and track now has a school built on it and the bit they haven't built on is covered in dogs mess. Thanks for the free advice though.

[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mwy Eira[/bold] wrote:
My daughter is one of the 60+ U11s that use the track for athletics. Let's just let them all roam the streets shall we. At least these kids are doing so something constructive and not sitting around playing computer games. Another thing to be taken away from them.[/p][/quote]THen pay an economic rate to use these facilities or use a local park[/p][/quote]My local park and track now has a school built on it and the bit they haven't built on is covered in dogs mess. Thanks for the free advice though.Mwy Eira

Mwy Eira wrote:
My daughter is one of the 60+ U11s that use the track for athletics. Let's just let them all roam the streets shall we. At least these kids are doing so something constructive and not sitting around playing computer games. Another thing to be taken away from them.

THen pay an economic rate to use these facilities or use a local park

My local park and track now has a school built on it and the bit they haven't built on is covered in dogs mess. Thanks for the free advice though.

Are you a Newport resident?

[quote][p][bold]Mwy Eira[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mwy Eira[/bold] wrote:
My daughter is one of the 60+ U11s that use the track for athletics. Let's just let them all roam the streets shall we. At least these kids are doing so something constructive and not sitting around playing computer games. Another thing to be taken away from them.[/p][/quote]THen pay an economic rate to use these facilities or use a local park[/p][/quote]My local park and track now has a school built on it and the bit they haven't built on is covered in dogs mess. Thanks for the free advice though.[/p][/quote]Are you a Newport resident?Mr Bump.

You do not need a stadium just for running. It is far to costly. If you want to pay the rate that is is econmoc please do but you will not.

An alternative outdoor track could easilly built around existing facilities

You do not need a stadium just for running. It is far to costly. If you want to pay the rate that is is econmoc please do but you will not.
An alternative outdoor track could easilly built around existing facilitiesBobevans

I've had the 'pleasure' of a Romanian family living in the flat below me for the past year. Tomorrow is a champagne day as they are due to be evicted. To those who defend them, I'm sure that you'll be first in the queue to ask them to move into your locality. Then you can deal with things like not getting your bins emptied because the family haven't bothered for 2 months then drag bags full of filthy nappies and food and fill their neighbours bins til overflowing. Or maybe leaving the building unlocked because they're too lazy to walk downstairs everytime one of their friends turn up. Or knocking on your door at all hours holding a child and begging for money - whilst smoking. Or maybe armed police under your roof because arguments between Romanians result in knives being drawn. Or chewing tobacco and spitting it out of windows. Yeah. Good honest folk. Before anyone says it's just one bad family. I have friends who have other Romanian neighbors and suffer the same. One last point. We all work with people of different nationalities. Be it Poles, Czechs, Pakistanis etc - does anyone work with a Romanian?

I've had the 'pleasure' of a Romanian family living in the flat below me for the past year. Tomorrow is a champagne day as they are due to be evicted. To those who defend them, I'm sure that you'll be first in the queue to ask them to move into your locality. Then you can deal with things like not getting your bins emptied because the family haven't bothered for 2 months then drag bags full of filthy nappies and food and fill their neighbours bins til overflowing. Or maybe leaving the building unlocked because they're too lazy to walk downstairs everytime one of their friends turn up. Or knocking on your door at all hours holding a child and begging for money - whilst smoking. Or maybe armed police under your roof because arguments between Romanians result in knives being drawn. Or chewing tobacco and spitting it out of windows. Yeah. Good honest folk. Before anyone says it's just one bad family. I have friends who have other Romanian neighbors and suffer the same. One last point. We all work with people of different nationalities. Be it Poles, Czechs, Pakistanis etc - does anyone work with a Romanian?GogExile

Mwy Eira wrote:
My daughter is one of the 60+ U11s that use the track for athletics. Let's just let them all roam the streets shall we. At least these kids are doing so something constructive and not sitting around playing computer games. Another thing to be taken away from them.

THen pay an economic rate to use these facilities or use a local park

My local park and track now has a school built on it and the bit they haven't built on is covered in dogs mess. Thanks for the free advice though.

Are you a Newport resident?

Sounds like she's talking about the Glebelands.

[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mwy Eira[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mwy Eira[/bold] wrote:
My daughter is one of the 60+ U11s that use the track for athletics. Let's just let them all roam the streets shall we. At least these kids are doing so something constructive and not sitting around playing computer games. Another thing to be taken away from them.[/p][/quote]THen pay an economic rate to use these facilities or use a local park[/p][/quote]My local park and track now has a school built on it and the bit they haven't built on is covered in dogs mess. Thanks for the free advice though.[/p][/quote]Are you a Newport resident?[/p][/quote]Sounds like she's talking about the Glebelands.D Taylor

Mr Bump. wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting 19m Romanians want to upsticks, ignore every other EU country and relocate to the UK to live on benefits? Get a grip you nutter.

Are you seriously deficient in brain matter.
Did I say every Romanian wants to come here?
The top-up effect of allowing further immigrants in is bound to have some impact.
What have you got a degree in? Media Studies I expect, if you have one at all.

Yes you did say "every Romanian wants to come here." You clueless clown.

[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting 19m Romanians want to upsticks, ignore every other EU country and relocate to the UK to live on benefits? Get a grip you nutter.[/p][/quote]Are you seriously deficient in brain matter.
Did I say every Romanian wants to come here?
The top-up effect of allowing further immigrants in is bound to have some impact.
What have you got a degree in? Media Studies I expect, if you have one at all.[/p][/quote]Yes you did say "every Romanian wants to come here." You clueless clown.Mr Bump.

Mr Bump. wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting 19m Romanians want to upsticks, ignore every other EU country and relocate to the UK to live on benefits? Get a grip you nutter.

Are you seriously deficient in brain matter.
Did I say every Romanian wants to come here?
The top-up effect of allowing further immigrants in is bound to have some impact.
What have you got a degree in? Media Studies I expect, if you have one at all.

Yes you did say &quot;every Romanian wants to come here." You clueless clown.

You are obviously an uneducated reprobate with a very nasty personality.
I said they all want to come over here (that is the ones that are going to come anyway) I didn't say EVERY Romanian.
Read between the lines, or are you incabable of doing so.
Nasty piece of work you are.

[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting 19m Romanians want to upsticks, ignore every other EU country and relocate to the UK to live on benefits? Get a grip you nutter.[/p][/quote]Are you seriously deficient in brain matter.
Did I say every Romanian wants to come here?
The top-up effect of allowing further immigrants in is bound to have some impact.
What have you got a degree in? Media Studies I expect, if you have one at all.[/p][/quote]Yes you did say "every Romanian wants to come here." You clueless clown.[/p][/quote]You are obviously an uneducated reprobate with a very nasty personality.
I said they all want to come over here (that is the ones that are going to come anyway) I didn't say EVERY Romanian.
Read between the lines, or are you incabable of doing so.
Nasty piece of work you are.Cymru Am Beth

Sell off the council owned football and rugby pitches too while they're at it. You can play those sports anywhere too ;-)

It is not just the rich kids that go training at the athletics. We pay track fees. Do the kids that play football and rugby pay pitch fees ? I don't know the answer to that one but perhaps someone can enlighten us.

Where else did you think I lived Bobevans ?????????

Sell off the council owned football and rugby pitches too while they're at it. You can play those sports anywhere too ;-)
It is not just the rich kids that go training at the athletics. We pay track fees. Do the kids that play football and rugby pay pitch fees ? I don't know the answer to that one but perhaps someone can enlighten us.
Where else did you think I lived Bobevans ?????????Mwy Eira

Most of you are complaining or at least not happy with the news that a lot of Romanians are going to come to our country to look for work along with the our EU friends that are already here, well if your serious and you want to stop this taking place, either organise a march of protest, or at the next General election DON'T VOTE FOR LABOUR, CONSERVATIVE, LIBERAL, or UKIP because they ALL want MORE IMMIGRANTS to come HERE....

Most of you are complaining or at least not happy with the news that a lot of Romanians are going to come to our country to look for work along with the our EU friends that are already here, well if your serious and you want to stop this taking place, either organise a march of protest, or at the next General election DON'T VOTE FOR LABOUR, CONSERVATIVE, LIBERAL, or UKIP because they ALL want MORE IMMIGRANTS to come HERE....welshmen

Mr Bump. wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting 19m Romanians want to upsticks, ignore every other EU country and relocate to the UK to live on benefits? Get a grip you nutter.

Are you seriously deficient in brain matter.
Did I say every Romanian wants to come here?
The top-up effect of allowing further immigrants in is bound to have some impact.
What have you got a degree in? Media Studies I expect, if you have one at all.

Yes you did say &quot;every Romanian wants to come here." You clueless clown.

You are obviously an uneducated reprobate with a very nasty personality.
I said they all want to come over here (that is the ones that are going to come anyway) I didn't say EVERY Romanian.
Read between the lines, or are you incabable of doing so.
Nasty piece of work you are.

Better a "nasty piece of work" by your definition than a reductive prat who channels poorly-articulated sub Daily Mail contradictory invective and bile in lieu of effectively reasoned argument. How about you shush until you're able to offer something other than 'blame immigration'?

[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote:
Are you seriously suggesting 19m Romanians want to upsticks, ignore every other EU country and relocate to the UK to live on benefits? Get a grip you nutter.[/p][/quote]Are you seriously deficient in brain matter.
Did I say every Romanian wants to come here?
The top-up effect of allowing further immigrants in is bound to have some impact.
What have you got a degree in? Media Studies I expect, if you have one at all.[/p][/quote]Yes you did say "every Romanian wants to come here." You clueless clown.[/p][/quote]You are obviously an uneducated reprobate with a very nasty personality.
I said they all want to come over here (that is the ones that are going to come anyway) I didn't say EVERY Romanian.
Read between the lines, or are you incabable of doing so.
Nasty piece of work you are.[/p][/quote]Better a "nasty piece of work" by your definition than a reductive prat who channels poorly-articulated sub Daily Mail contradictory invective and bile in lieu of effectively reasoned argument. How about you shush until you're able to offer something other than 'blame immigration'?The People's Republic of Newp

You need to see a doctor pal.
You have some serious anger management issues.
I am not going to post any further on this matter as I am sure you will want the last word.
Just shows your mentality.
You have a serious psychological flaw in your character.
I suggest that you see someone about it before it gets worse.

You need to see a doctor pal.
You have some serious anger management issues.
I am not going to post any further on this matter as I am sure you will want the last word.
Just shows your mentality.
You have a serious psychological flaw in your character.
I suggest that you see someone about it before it gets worse.Cymru Am Beth