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JBReyes777, would you agree, as per my previous post on the subject, that you're talking about an earthquake of at least 6.0 magnitude?

Honestly, I don't know. All I know is, the Continent of Africa will Shake on the 25th day of May 2018, and that many will perish. Through our prayers of faith and love of God, the loss of lives will be lessened, but the Shake can not be averted, amen.

Honestly, I don't know. All I know is, the Continent of Africa will Shake on the 25th day of May 2018, and that many will perish. Through our prayers of faith and love of God, the loss of lives will be lessened, but the Shake can not be averted, amen.

Here are two statements:

1) There will be, at most, slight damage to buildings and other structures.
2) There may be a lot of damage in very populated areas, or worse.

Which of the two statements, in your opinion, better describes what you believe will happen?

Honestly, I don't know. All I know is, the Continent of Africa will Shake on the 25th day of May 2018, and that many will perish. Through our prayers of faith and love of God, the loss of lives will be lessened, but the Shake can not be averted, amen.

That sounds pretty specific. For a prediction to be worth predicting, though, I think you need to be at least a little more specific.

Africa's a big continent. Many perish on it every day. How many more, in a rough percentage, do you predict will perish on the day in question?

It's easy enough simply to say Africa shook, without proof. What will constitute evidence that the shaking actually took place? Whose reports will you consider sufficient or necessary?

I do believe you have a hard row to hoe here. It will be hard to convince anyone that what you see as the long term goal of saving souls will be implemented by the short term event of killing many, and harder still to convince anyone that a god worth his salt would be unable to accomplish his goals except by such an act of merciless destruction.

I believe the prediction is based on delusion, which is bad enough, but what is worse, I think, is to believe that it reflects well on any god to act in this way. It is the fashion of theists to describe their god or gods as wise and powerful and good, and yet when real events are attributed to them, they are marked by mayhem, petulance and the morality of a mad bomber more than a god. Your god acts, not like a god but like a crazy person in a fit of temper. No thanks. You can have him.

__________________I love this world, but not for its answers. (Mary Oliver)

According to the medical community, hearing voices is a sign of mental illness, agreed?

According to the teachings of the Holy Roman Catholic Faith, hearing voices aka LOCUTION, is a sign of the gift from God, as is, the apparitions of Fatima, Garabandal and Medjugorje, and that the wounds of Our Lord Jesus Christ, known as, the Stigmata, amen.

Who are you to believe? The medical community or God?

Your free will to choose. God’s precious gift to mankind, amen.

Even the scholars of the Catholic Church agree that hearing voices is sometimes caused by mental illness.

Have you consulted a Catholic Priest? The Vatican won't honor your claim if they don't agree with you about its provenance.

Thank you. Statement #1 is 6.0 or lower on the Richter scale, and statement #2 is 6.1 or higher. So, for simplicity's sake, we'll say an even 6.

If there is an earthquake of 6 or higher on the Richter scale in Africa on the 25th of May this year then I will concede that there may be something unusual going on, and will see if I can help you and convince others to help you to better understand exactly what is going on.

If there is not, will you concede that maybe your illness is causing you to believe something which is not true, and that you therefore ought to talk to a doctor who has a medical degree from a reputable medical university about perhaps seeking different or additional treatment? It's not a deal-breaker if you won't, it's just something I would personally like to see happen, because I think it would be to your benefit.

Thank you. Statement #1 is 6.0 or lower on the Richter scale, and statement #2 is 6.1 or higher. So, for simplicity's sake, we'll say an even 6.

If there is an earthquake of 6 or higher on the Richter scale in Africa on the 25th of May this year then I will concede that there may be something unusual going on, and will see if I can help you and convince others to help you to better understand exactly what is going on.

If there is not, will you concede that maybe your illness is causing you to believe something which is not true, and that you therefore ought to talk to a doctor who has a medical degree from a reputable medical university about perhaps seeking different or additional treatment? It's not a deal-breaker if you won't, it's just something I would personally like to see happen, because I think it would be to your benefit.

Honestly, I don't know. All I know is, the Continent of Africa will Shake on the 25th day of May 2018, and that many will perish. Through our prayers of faith and love of God, the loss of lives will be lessened, but the Shake can not be averted, amen.

Hold up- you said earlier that The Shake would happen if you were not given scads of cash and a full-time gig. Now you say it cannot be averted. Have you firmly committed to this unleashing of death, and accepted that no money or job is heading your way, so the people of Africa must die? Y U do dis?

Hold up- you said earlier that The Shake would happen if you were not given scads of cash and a full-time gig. Now you say it cannot be averted. Have you firmly committed to this unleashing of death, and accepted that no money or job is heading your way, so the people of Africa must die? Y U do dis?

Yes you are correct. The Shake of the Continent of Africa is conditional, providing I AM offered full time job from Bechtel, Xylem or funds from the Vatican.

If not, the Continent of Africa will Shake on the 25th day of May 2018, and can not be averted, however, through prayers, the lives loss will be lessened.

"Suggesting spurious explanations isn't relevant to my work." -- WTC Dust.
"Both cannot be simultaneously true, and so one may conclude neither is true, and if neither is true, then Apollo is fraudulent." -- Patrick1000.

This is, the reason for the Shake of the Continent of Africa on the 25th day of May 2018, the sign for God's Chosen of Peoples of Israel, the resting place of the One True Ark of The Covenant, the true presence of God of Israel at Axum, Ethiopia, amen.

Exodus 3.6 I am the God of your father, he continued, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God. http://www.usccb.org/bible/exodus/3

The Nation of Israel! PLEASE STOP! STOP! STOP! Your praying and bowing down before the Wailing Wall. You commit a grave sin of Idolatry, by praying and bowing down before the Wailing Wall. But rather the Nation of Israel, GO! Pray and bow down before the One True Ark of the Covenant, the true presence of the God of Israel at Axum, Ethiopia amen. Peace.

Exodus 3.6 I am the God of your father, he continued, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God. http://www.usccb.org/bible/exodus/3

The Nation of Israel! PLEASE STOP! STOP! STOP! Your praying and bowing down before the Wailing Wall. You commit a grave sin of Idolatry, by praying and bowing down before the Wailing Wall. But rather the Nation of Israel, GO! Pray and bow down before the One True Ark of the Covenant, the true presence of the God of Israel at Axum, Ethiopia amen. Peace.

Note: The God of Israel aka God The Father, amen.

Note: If you read the SSA Doc, you would have this knowledge, amen.

Hell, I didn't even hear/see that the Moai had bodies (that's real, right?) until at most two years ago... so if I've missed out on news that the Ark has been located (LOL) in Ethiopia, could someone post me a link?

"Suggesting spurious explanations isn't relevant to my work." -- WTC Dust.
"Both cannot be simultaneously true, and so one may conclude neither is true, and if neither is true, then Apollo is fraudulent." -- Patrick1000.

Hell, I didn't even hear/see that the Moai had bodies (that's real, right?) until at most two years ago... so if I've missed out on news that the Ark has been located (LOL) in Ethiopia, could someone post me a link?

Consider yourself notified by the Shake of the Continent of Africa, amen.

"Suggesting spurious explanations isn't relevant to my work." -- WTC Dust.
"Both cannot be simultaneously true, and so one may conclude neither is true, and if neither is true, then Apollo is fraudulent." -- Patrick1000.

No one is able to see the Ark and for good reasons, if you watched and "listened" to the video.

4 years ago was about the time I AM awarded SSDI.

I've come along way and learned a thing or two. Now is the time.

It’s not an award, it’s a designation.

Nobody is able to see the Ark for good reasons
Nobody is able to see the Ark because it doesn’t exist.
Nobody is able to see the Ark because it’s really small and located in Tierra Del Fuego
Nobody is able to see the Ark because random justifications

__________________What do Narwhals, Magnets and Apollo 13 have in common? Think about it....

Nobody is able to see the Ark for good reasons
Nobody is able to see the Ark because it doesn’t exist.
Nobody is able to see the Ark because it’s really small and located in Tierra Del Fuego
Nobody is able to see the Ark because random justifications

Please see post #136. Thank you.

How Many SSDI Beneficiaries Leave the Rolls for Work? More Than ...https://www.researchgate.net/.../265...ries_Leave_the...
Full-text (PDF) | K nowing how many people on the Social Security disability rolls return to work—and eventually leave the rolls—is critical to monitoring program ... 25 percent of the entire cohort, they accounted for 62 percent. of the cohort's months off the rolls for work through 2006. SSDI Awarded. 591,493 (100%). IT IS NOT A DESIGNATION. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

Award Letter. After your application for Social Security Disability (SSD) has been reviewed and approved by the Social Security Administration's (SSA) Disability Determination Services (DDS) office, you will receive a formal letter informing you of your eligibility to receive disability benefits.

How Many SSDI Beneficiaries Leave the Rolls for Work? More Than ...https://www.researchgate.net/.../265...ries_Leave_the...
Full-text (PDF) | K nowing how many people on the Social Security disability rolls return to work—and eventually leave the rolls—is critical to monitoring program ... 25 percent of the entire cohort, they accounted for 62 percent. of the cohort's months off the rolls for work through 2006. SSDI Awarded. 591,493 (100%). IT IS NOT A DESIGNATION. GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

So far you’ve been wrong roughly 48 times since your prediction in that link, the video for which does nothing to support your incoherent claims

__________________What do Narwhals, Magnets and Apollo 13 have in common? Think about it....

According to the medical community, hearing voices is a sign of mental illness, agreed?

According to the teachings of the Holy Roman Catholic Faith, hearing voices aka LOCUTION, is a sign of the gift from God, as is, the apparitions of Fatima, Garabandal and Medjugorje, and that the wounds of Our Lord Jesus Christ, known as, the Stigmata, amen.

The Ethiopian Orthodox Church firmly believes the Ark is kept at Axum. There is a special chapel built to house it, and a priest who lives in seclusion watching over it.
I have been there, and was lucky enough to see the priest. However, the chapel itself is closed to visitors, so I can't say exactly what they've got in there. There is almost certainly something inside, though.

Nah, the Ark of the Covenant is in Warehouse 13 The Library. Jenkins is taking good care of it.

__________________"If you trust in yourself ... and believe in your dreams ... and follow your star ... you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things" - Terry Pratchett

The Ethiopian Orthodox Church firmly believes the Ark is kept at Axum. There is a special chapel built to house it, and a priest who lives in seclusion watching over it.
I have been there, and was lucky enough to see the priest. However, the chapel itself is closed to visitors, so I can't say exactly what they've got in there. There is almost certainly something inside, though.

Considering the number of religious cons around, they certainly dont have something REAL inside..Its just another religious conartist meant to keep the flock happy and those oh so important $$$ rolling in

Thats my opinion only, but so far its been right on the money (so to speak)LOL

__________________It's a kind of a strawman thing in that it's exactly a strawman thing. Loss Leader

'When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat.' George Carlin

It's pretty hard to get to even by Ethiopian standards. It's up near the border with Eritrea, in a military controlled region. When I was in Ethiopia in 2010, you had to get special permits to travel up there. They were in a semi state of war with their neighbor at the time though. Not sure what it's like now.

As Candidate of Bechtel Corporation, Ethics and Compliance Officer - aka Corporate Bechtel Corporation, if or when I AM offered full time employment, along with the (IP) Intellectual Property valued at $777 Million, amen.

The IP's are; US Copyright Office, Trade Secrets, and the US Patent and Trademark Office of, the Department of Commerce, amen.

Again, the Shake will not be in a specific region, it will be the "CONTINENT" of Africa will Shake, amen.

I was assuming that if the Ark is responsible for the shake that it would be the epicentre.

It doesn't matter, though. If the entire continent shakes, then looking anywhere on the continent will get a result, won't it? So if we stick specifically with Acksum, because that's where the Ark is, then we'll get the result.

Don't worry, though, I'll also check the map of the entirety of southern and central Africa I posted on page 1 of this thread. I think we can safely say that if there's nothing on either of these maps, then nothing happened, especially as the three of them cover the entirety of Africa.

Again, the Shake will not be in a specific region, it will be the "CONTINENT" of Africa will Shake, amen.

I checked Bechtel's website. They don't have any openings for an ethics compliance officer. Does it really make sense to you that a god would shake an entire continent just because you weren't offered a job for which there isn't even an opening.

In all the universe, in all the clusters of galaxies and potentially billions of worlds your god looks after, he's picked you to be an ethics compliance officer for an engineering and facilities management firm on a small blue planet in the unfashionable, western spiral arm of one galaxy? Not only has he picked you to work for this firm, but he's willing to cause an earthquake on an entire continent if they don't hire you. Does it strike you as odd your god picked a continent where Bechtel doesn't do any business? The company that isn't going to hire you won't suffer any losses from the shaking. In fact, the amount of engineering consulting that will be needed all over Africa may make them a fortune.

Is it more likely that you have a medical condition that causes you to hear voices and is medically treatable?

Again, the Shake will not be in a specific region, it will be the "CONTINENT" of Africa will Shake, amen.

Okay, so there's going to be a shaking of all of Africa and people will die and there will be damage as a result of physical shaking? We're not talking about some spiritual quake on the same day that people die of what they normally die from in Africa right? There won't be any of this, there was a 2.4 quake in Namibia and a bunch of people died of hemorrhagic fever in the Congo right?

I predict that when the time comes and nothing happens we'll hear "it was a spiritual shake, not a physical shake" (in the same vein as the "it was a spiritual rapture" that we heard in 2012.

Yes indeed. I've been trying (so far without success) to pin Mr. Reyes down on what this shake will entail and whose reporting will be accepted as evidence that it has happened. I suspect that the less information we get the easier it will be to dissimulate.

__________________I love this world, but not for its answers. (Mary Oliver)