In case you dont watch McLaren was .1 second slower than the 458 around their track. They also didnt like it as much, said its not as fun, swerves and is nervous under braking, although they say it brakes faster/shorter than the ferrari. They say it is harder to control, its sketchy at the limit and Jason spins out, saying "I dont know the last time I spun a car was!"

In case you dont watch McLaren was .1 second slower than the 458 around their track. They also didnt like it as much, said its not as fun, swerves and is nervous under braking, although they say it brakes faster/shorter than the ferrari. They say it is harder to control, its sketchy at the limit and Jason spins out, saying "I dont know the last time I spun a car was!"

I'm really surprised honestly. The McLaren was supposed to be the Ferrari killer and it really isn't even its equal. The car is somewhat of a disappointment.

I'm really surprised honestly. The McLaren was supposed to be the Ferrari killer and it really isn't even its equal. The car is somewhat of a disappointment.

Yeah, thats what everyone seems to be saying. How McLaren said it was going to Beat everything and be the best, but so far all the reviewers dont seem to like it so much and the lap times have been slower than its main opponents.

Yeah, thats what everyone seems to be saying. How McLaren said it was going to Beat everything and be the best, but so far all the reviewers dont seem to like it so much and the lap times have been slower than its main opponents.

The 458 beating it with a naturally aspirated motor speaks volumes. Is the 458 heavier as well?

McLaren F1 slingshot us into the 21st centuries supercar generation. For a car to have the same impact that it had, it needs to do some serious $#@!. 7 and 8 speed DCTs and $#@! are regular $#@! nowadays and so is going 200 mph in an AWD lambo with 600 HP. They need to come out with something truly special if they want to meet the bar they hit in 1994.

McLaren F1 slingshot us into the 21st centuries supercar generation. For a car to have the same impact that it had, it needs to do some serious $#@!. 7 and 8 speed DCTs and $#@! are regular $#@! nowadays and so is going 200 mph in an AWD lambo with 600 HP. They need to come out with something truly special if they want to meet the bar they hit in 1994.

Do not disagree. The F1 took the bar and raised it so high nothing else will shock and awe the way it did.

Maybe if Gordon Murray ever finds his balls another proper supercar can be made.