Posted by MikeT23 on 1/27/2013 7:04:00 AM (view original):Do you understand that they manage to kill almost 10x as many people without guns as they do with guns?

how many are mass murders? False equivalency. The focus now is to try and limit one particular type of murder, not all murder. I'd be satisfied if we applied the same standards to gun owners as we do to drivers. Fair enough?

And we are telling you that HCAWs are not going to do that.

Lets get a scenario going.

Crazy guy wants to kill everyone at his school. He cant get a HCAW so he abandons his plan?

He just uses more guns.

And if we are just trying to stop one type of crime and this doesnt do it where does that infamous slippery slope lead us?

Crazy guy wants to kill everyone. He can't get a HCAW so he has to use a less effective weapon for killing a lot of people in public. Because of this, he is able to kill less people before the police stop him.

Posted by MikeT23 on 1/28/2013 2:26:00 PM (view original):Of these recent mass shootings, which one, other than Sandy Hook, wasn't planned well in advance?

a) was the Giffords shooting. And the Aurora shooting as the AW jammed after about 30 rounds.

Loughner had a 33 round magazine and, when he stopped to reload, he dropped the loaded clip. Restricting the size of the clips may have saved some lives. If he had been armed with an assault rifle, more accurate from a distance than a handgun and capable of holding more bullets, more people probably would have died.