Marquette King on Jon Gruden: “Who’s that?”

Posted by Michael David Smith on September 13, 2018, 11:23 AM EST

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The Raiders cut punter Marquette King in March amid reports that new head coach Jon Gruden had a personality conflict with King. King later signed with the Broncos, who host the Raiders on Sunday. So will King have anything to say to Gruden?

It doesn’t sound like it. Mike Klis of 9 News in Denver asked King about seeing Gruden on Sunday, and King pretended not to know who Gruden was.

Jon Gruden. You know that highly overrated NFL head coach who hasn’t done anything of notable importance in the NFL in over 16 years. The guy who is over-hyped and lies to his players all the time. The fraud. Yeah, that guy.

I still don’t hate the Mack trade. From a win now perspective I agree it’s bad, but it’s great for Gruden to have all those picks leading into Las Vegas to make a big splash. Players will want to be in Vegas. They will love it. Also, Mack is 27 now… Outside LBs peak younger than you think. He’s in his prime already and by the time the Raiders are in Vegas Mack will be past his prime. That’s what Gruden is playing for, and he needs to be just good enough not to be embarrassing for the next two years.

Oakland did play maybe the best team in the league in week 1 and had them in a great game for a half. Not terrible.

“Someone please tell him he’s a punter.” No need. He answered the question with grace. ‘I’m looking forward to every game.’
The shot across the bow of ‘Who’s dat?’ is just a way of deflecting comments. He is a punter, every game is a blessing for them. Big check, low risk.

It’s a bit early to be writing off a competent coach. Perhaps his time has passed, but maybe not. Gruden’s not an idiot and has overacheived with his talent before.

Other new HCs seem to be afforded 3 seasons, but not Gruden. Why not?

Lots of teams, 15 to be precise, are 0-1, including Atlanta & New Orleans, two bona fide playoff teams from last season. And the Steelers are 0-0-1 against one of NFL’s prolificallly worst teams historically from last season. No one’s talking about their coaches like they are about Gruden.

And let’s face it, the Raiders were 6-10 last season, not 12-4. They’ve had one winning season (with an exit in the playoffs in the WC round) since when, … oh yeah, since one season after Gruden left Oakland and on the residual talent of his team, 2002.

In those 15 seasons since then the Raiders have averaged just over 5 wins/season.

I think that the guy deserves some respect and patience. If he can’t have the Raiders at .500 by next (2019) season, then let the criticism begin.

It’s a bit early to be writing off a competent coach. Perhaps his time has passed, but maybe not. Gruden’s not an idiot and has overacheived with his talent before.

Other new HCs seem to be afforded 3 seasons, but not Gruden. Why not?

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It’s purely because of his personnel decisions. You can’t come in and get rid of the teams best players and then lose. Look at Chip Kelly… One could argue that he is trying to stockpile cap space and draft picks. There are 2 flaws with that method…first, there is a common theme with teams that have a lot of cap space…they aren’t very good. Who are the big names going to the Jets and Browns? If you are a bottom feeder, you are going to have to over pay for FAs to come there, while at the same time, they showed with Mack, they aren’t willing to pay people extra money. But maybe he is looking to build a team through the draft. Maybe, but what I have heard about Gruden is he isn’t a teacher. He expects you to already know it and motivates you to go out there and execute. This is why Gruden likes older players and an QBs that are great with the play book. If he is going to build a team through the draft, he needs to hit on draft picks and do more than clap his hands and tell them to work harder. He needs to teach them, he needs to teach all of his players the system, not just expect them to know it.

Nothing he is doing makes sense. Let’s get rid of Crabtree and bring in washed up Jordy Nelson. Lets get rid of the punter and Mack because he doesn’t like their attitude, but let’s give the Steelers a 3rd rounder for Bryant? Lets then trade for AJ McCarron because why not? Can’t beat out Nathan Peterman or Josh Allen, but you give them a 5th round pick? I look forward to seeing this master plan of his…

As bad as the Raiders looked against the Rams does anybody have any doubt whatsoever that Gruden will completely out coach Trip Tomlin when the Raiders host the Steelers in the Sunday late game on December 9th? But once again Trip Tomlin will never, ever be on the hot seat because the Rooneys are “blown away” by the way he talks. Sigh.

And the Broncos were 5-11 with Miller, your point? The Rams had many 7-9 & 8-8 years with Donald. The point is you don’t trade your teams best defensive player especially if they are as disruptive as Khalil Mack. He used to terrorize my Broncos so bad..

And the Broncos were 5-11 with Miller, your point? The Rams had many 7-9 & 8-8 years with Donald. The point is you don’t trade your teams best defensive player especially if they are as disruptive as Khalil Mack. He used to terrorize my Broncos so bad..
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You’re team just cut everyone else. Also, you don’t have a qb being paid $25 million a year. The Raiders have so many holes on the defense that they were bottom ranked. Imagine putting that much cap room into one player. How are you going to get better? Their defense sucked last year with Mack and Chicago still lost with him having a great game. It just proves that one great player won’t turn a unit around.

Even Carlin, Hicks, Pryor, and Chapelle couldn’t come up with anything funnier than the mess that is the Raiders…I’m sure Vegas already has remorse on getting in bed with the nfl and the davis crime syndicate.

And the Broncos were 5-11 with Miller, your point? The Rams had many 7-9 & 8-8 years with Donald. The point is you don’t trade your teams best defensive player especially if they are as disruptive as Khalil Mack. He used to terrorize my Broncos so bad..
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When you can get two #1’s and not have qb money on the books for a non QB you do just that. The last thing you do is back load the deal so bad like von’s deal. Even if you cut him in 2021, you still would end up with over 4 million in dead space.

up in your business says:
September 13, 2018 at 11:48 am
Ah, you remember Jon Gruden. Left the Raiders in shambles, left the Bucs in shambles, then starting hawking beer. Hasn’t done anything lately, though.

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Nothin’ like some actual facts to spoil a good argument.

Gruden’s last season with the Raiders was 10-6 and the year prior to that 12-4. Bill Callahan took Gruden’s team in ’02 and went 11-5. If you think Callahan was good, he then in turn went 4-12.

Seems to me that the one that left the Raiders in shambles was Callahan, not Gruden.

In Tampa Gruden won a Super Bowl, that alone should have satisfied any Bucs fan. As a Bills fan I’d love to have that credential!

Otherwise, in his last two seasons he at least posted winning 9-7 seasons with a tremendously average QB named Garcia, a role-playing RB, and nothing special at WR. And he got that crew to overachieve.

After he left, the Bucs, in 9 seasons, have posted only two winning seasons under four different coaches.

So to say that he “left the Bucs in shambles” is to take some extreme liberties. 9-7 isn’t shambles, particularly when his heirs were able to duplicate that accomplishment, whatever anyone thinks of it, only twice, six seasons apart, and to only 9-7 and 10-6, essentially the same “shambles” that you claim.

It’s apparent to me that Gruden can’t cope with Pro Bowl level players who have their own personality and don’t ingratiate themselves to the HC. That’s why he got rid of Marquette King and traded Khalil Mack. Gruden’s preference is for his “Gruden Grinders” who are below-average players who get into Gruden’s good graces by brown-nosing the “coaching legend”.

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You’re team just cut everyone else. Also, you don’t have a qb being paid $25 million a year. The Raiders have so many holes on the defense that they were bottom ranked. Imagine putting that much cap room into one player. How are you going to get better? Their defense sucked last year with Mack and Chicago still lost with him having a great game. It just proves that one great player won’t turn a unit around.

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Who did the Broncos cut? And the Bears loss is not Macks fault. Mack doesn’t make a team.

elmerbrownelmerbrown says:
September 13, 2018 at 11:49 am
When I first seen this I was like who’s Marquette King ,,then I seen the article and was like oh,,,,he’s the dancing punter !
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Wait, I bet you want English as our official language & you prove you can’t speak it(if you write as you speak).

“When I first (seen)…” Try – When I first SAW…
“Then I (seen) …” Try – then I SAW …

And the Broncos were 5-11 with Miller, your point? The Rams had many 7-9 & 8-8 years with Donald. The point is you don’t trade your teams best defensive player especially if they are as disruptive as Khalil Mack. He used to terrorize my Broncos so bad..
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When you can get two #1’s and not have qb money on the books for a non QB you do just that. The last thing you do is back load the deal so bad like von’s deal. Even if you cut him in 2021, you still would end up with over 4 million in dead space.

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I can just about guarantee that the Raiders will not get a player anywhere near Macks talent with those two 1’s. Mack is a generational talent that does just grow on trees. And FYI, Millers deal was front loaded which is why he is the 4th or 5th highest paid Bronco this year.

Many of you are saying “he’s just a punter” but dang, I wish I was “just” a punter. Making a couple million kicking a ball for a career isn’t bad. Definitely more stable and less pressure than a kicker.

I can just about guarantee that the Raiders will not get a player anywhere near Macks talent with those two 1’s. Mack is a generational talent that does just grow on trees. And FYI, Millers deal was front loaded which is why he is the 4th or 5th highest paid Bronco this year.
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Just in next years draft- you have Joey Bosa’s little brother, Ed Oliver, take your pick from Clemson’s Defense, Rashawn Gary, Raekwon Davis,Simmons , Sweat, Tillery, etc….thats justsome of the d-lineman that will go in the first rd…and that is only next year….Von Miller was front loaded….pass the kool aid- 2016-11, 2017-19, 2018-10, 2019 -25, 2020-26, 2021- 22.5…thats as back loaded as it can be

I can just about guarantee that the Raiders will not get a player anywhere near Macks talent with those two 1’s. Mack is a generational talent that does just grow on trees. And FYI, Millers deal was front loaded which is why he is the 4th or 5th highest paid Bronco this year.
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Just in next years draft- you have Joey Bosa’s little brother, Ed Oliver, take your pick from Clemson’s Defense, Rashawn Gary, Raekwon Davis,Simmons , Sweat, Tillery, etc….thats justsome of the d-lineman that will go in the first rd…and that is only next year….Von Miller was front loaded….pass the kool aid- 2016-11, 2017-19, 2018-10, 2019 -25, 2020-26, 2021- 22.5…thats as back loaded as it can be

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Thats nice, judging by the raiders draft history, do you think that the raiders will actually draft the right player? And while Bosa, Oliver, and Co are good, I highly doubt any of them will be Khalil Mack.

Thats nice, judging by the raiders draft history, do you think that the raiders will actually draft the right player? And while Bosa, Oliver, and Co are good, I highly doubt any of them will be Khalil Mack.
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Well you are just a walking contradiction…..duh, it was thew raiders that drafted Mack…like I said pass the kool aid so i understand your front loaded logic

Thats nice, judging by the raiders draft history, do you think that the raiders will actually draft the right player? And while Bosa, Oliver, and Co are good, I highly doubt any of them will be Khalil Mack.
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Well you are just a walking contradiction…..duh, it was thew raiders that drafted Mack…like I said pass the kool aid so i understand your front loaded logic
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How? You tell me, what great player has the raider drafted over the last 10 years? I’ll wait. Last 10 first round picks:

bullcharger says:
September 13, 2018 at 11:35 am
I still don’t hate the Mack trade. From a win now perspective I agree it’s bad, but it’s great for Gruden to have all those picks leading into Las Vegas to make a big splash. Players will want to be in Vegas. They will love it. Also, Mack is 27 now… Outside LBs peak younger than you think. He’s in his prime already and by the time the Raiders are in Vegas Mack will be past his prime. That’s what Gruden is playing for, and he needs to be just good enough not to be embarrassing for the next two years.

Oakland did play maybe the best team in the league in week 1 and had them in a great game for a half. Not terrible.
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It’s one of the worst trades in the past 20 years.
Mack is a generational talent. Trading away a known commodity for 2 first round picks which are a crap shoot, is a huge gamble which, based on the success of 1st picks, is likely to fail. And don’t forget that Oak is sending a 2nd back. If Oak is terrible, that pick will become even more valuable.
And Mack is not past his prime, he’s 27. LT was blowing lines, banging hookers all night, rolling into the locker room for years and he was still a pro-bowler until he was 31 and played almost 15 years. Mack is just coming into his prime, he’ll be dominant (barring injury) for the next 5-6 years and play longer. Look up any of the greats and they were productive well into their 30’s.

gruden will destroy the raiders like he destroted the bucs..if he would of left the bucs alone personal wise he would of had two more super bowls. He let so many players go after winning the super bowl. The players were so upset. He isnt a personal man never was. he made it so rich mckay couldnt work with him so they brought in a yes man as in bruce allen. watch the raiders wil be picking in the top ten for the next to years in the draft..he is not a GM,,he is a coach..