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that definitely doesn't help but i just hate the animation style. that is why all anime is inherently bad to me

Me too! Honestly, I don't like the art style at all and that's one of my biggest hangups. Also, the fans. I could prooooobably tolerate the art style in favor of the story if people didn't try to shove it down my throat constantly.

but the story is so good!!!!!!! just watch the first 12 episodes of soul eater i promise you'll like it. if you don't like it just watch the first season of death note i promise its the best

My favorite (read also: can't freaking stand) is when I'm at the book store looking for Hellboy comics and all I can hear is "OMG Have you read this? It's soooooo kawaiii!~ Hahaha! Where do they keep the pocky, friend-san?! HAHA" and I want to shoot myself in the face.

My favorite (read also: can't freaking stand) is when I'm at the book store looking for Hellboy comics and all I can hear is "OMG Have you read this? It's soooooo kawaiii!~ Hahaha! Where do they keep the pocky, friend-san?! HAHA" and I want to shoot myself in the face.

Me too! Honestly, I don't like the art style at all and that's one of my biggest hangups. Also, the fans. I could prooooobably tolerate the art style in favor of the story if people didn't try to shove it down my throat constantly.

As much as I love anime, I have to agree with this. The fanbase is really.....out there. I personally would never have started watching anime because someone recommended it to me, I started mainly because I was bored as all crap and I stumbled actross the movie The Girl Who Leapt Through Time on youtube. I loved that movie, so I poked around youtube and found a few others that I liked. But I still don't see the appeal of subs.

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On the topic of anime......
I do like anime, the animation that is, but have only found a few that actually have stories that I find interesting. For anyone who is just starting out, I would recommend: Grave of the Fireflies (Movie), Lucky Star (dubbed), Cyborg 009 (subbed). So there's my faves from each categeory XD
I would have said dubbed for Cyborg 009 too, but only season 1 has all of the episodes dubbed available online.

Dubbed... No.

Originally Posted by Pesky Persian

Me too! Honestly, I don't like the art style at all and that's one of my biggest hangups. Also, the fans. I could prooooobably tolerate the art style in favor of the story if people didn't try to shove it down my throat constantly.

Which basically means we should feed about 90% of Japan's animation industry to the sharks.

i don't get that.

maybe i'm wrong for thinking you just made some type of super heavy art statement, instead of just seeing it as a segway for a joke about the mass genocide of korean animators (good one), but could you please explain 'art is only as good as the people who make it' to me?

When you try and convince someone to watch something by going "Yeah, most of it is bad, but trust me this one is really good!", odds are the medium itself ain't so great.

I wouldn't say most of it is bad. More that most of it is a bit derivative and has limited appeal. It's probably more like kung-fu/b-horror movies or country I am guessing. There are quite a few exceptions, but sway too many people are fairly colored in their views (see post 36105) and can't pick them out. Even so, you aren't really missing much.

Originally Posted by Pesky Persian

I would probably hate anime less if people spent less time trying to get me to like/watch it.

I like anime and find it irritating. I have to deal with these people on a weekly basis and it can get annoying. I mean sometimes I am guilty of the overexcited recommendation thing with some of my friends, but it's become way out of hand lately. Not just with anime but all sorts of "nerd stuff too." I like to pick out my entertainment for myself, not win the "who's the biggest nerd" contest.

Which basically means we should feed about 90% of Japan's animation industry to the sharks.

I think animation in general is pretty consistent. The only "bad" animation tends to keep itself to long running shonen series. Only other thing is art style, which is preference I guess. It's pretty varied, at least compared to here. Though it still could be group together.

That being said, Soul Eater is ****. And so is just about any other "mainstream" anime that people try to get you to watch to get into it. It's really just best to start with a genre you might like and go from there. The people that say you should DBZ/Death Note/Code Geass and friends are the worst. Those really wont get you into anything.

Jesus Christ. That show wasn't even good when Toonami played that and nothing else. Then again, nostalgia is so powerful that it gets some people to think that the first generation of Pokemon is the best and everything after is absolute trash.

I grew up on watching DBZ. In my opinion it's a pretty great show. I don't expect anyone to agree with me though since it seems mostly everyone in this discussion seems to dislike it (which is fine, everyone has their own opinions and tastes)

If I had to recommend anime to someone I wouldn't just point them to DBZ though. There's tons of anime out there. Honestly, when it comes to anime all I really watched was DBZ, Gundam Wing, Pokemon, and the original Yugioh anime. I don't keep up with todays Pokemon anime. I haven't watched the show since the Hoenn region honestly. Brock and Misty were two of my favorite characters in the show it sucked to see them go.

^ That's insane. 100k for a Iphone? Geez lol. I see everybody on Facebook posting about that Flappy Bird game all the time. I believe someone said that the developers pulled the game. (Nvm I read the full article and it said the game was discontinued lol) I guess I could really careless since I never really play games on my android. I only play games on my phone during trips and what not. (Sometimes)

I'm going to assume at least a fair amount of people here have heard Miyizaki's statement, that he sort of despises the anime industry because it's made up primarily of otaku, and otaku as a group are looked down on in Japan and it gives the whole art style a bad name. A lot of people were up in arms about it on Tumblr, but to be fair he has a valid point. I don't watch much anime myself (read: like, none), though I did bite the bullet and get into snk a few months back. I thought the animation there at least was detailed and a lot of the establishing shots and combat sequences were very well animated. Plus, the characters all had pretty good arcs, if I did get a bit of darkness-induced apathy and arc fatigue as the season wound down. Still, on the whole if I had to give it a grade, I'd say it's a solid B- as far as entertainment value goes.

And to digress to my earlier point: Studio Ghibli announced they're going to make a serialized anime. If it can live up to the storytelling standards the movies the studio puts out, I'd be willing to give that one a try.

Originally Posted by Jb

As for Pokemon, I don't get the "Genwunners." My personal favorite was gen 2. But from a non-bias view, I honestly think that Gen 5 was the best. It had the most complete package out of the rest.

The pokemon fandom suffers a lot from the Zelda cycle (though I think, given another gen or two, it may start being called the pokemon cycle instead...). People love the current generation, and the one a few generations back. We're far enough removed from RSE that we have this super rosy nostalgia glow around it, and we're clamoring for remakes. I nuzlocked Ruby and Emerald last year, and I can honestly say that while they were fun games, they're no more or less fun than any other game in the series. Kanto and Johto also have had enough time between instalments (and remakes, yikes) that we have a similar nostalgic glow. Everyone loves Kalos at the moment because it's the next big thing, but I predict that in a generation's time, the lack of a postgame is going to seriously hurt our opinion of it. Gen IV is currently in the "loathed" category, though you can bet that once we get RSE remakes, everyone is going to be saying how much they loved Sinnoh and want to see that one remade. And Unova is in a tricky place because people are pretty divided over it right now. Some people like you, and me, loved the whole fresh start approach and the droves of new pokemon, plus the region's aesthetics, a good storyline and music, etc. Others... I dunno, I guess right now people have latched onto the idea that introducing 150 new pokemon was a bad thing.

I'm going to assume at least a fair amount of people here have heard Miyizaki's statement, that he sort of despises the anime industry because it's made up primarily of otaku, and otaku as a group are looked down on in Japan and it gives the whole art style a bad name. A lot of people were up in arms about it on Tumblr, but to be fair he has a valid point.

Tumblr's community is, uh... the phrase I was first thinking was "fundamentally broken," but I know that's not what I want.

I don't watch much anime myself (read: like, none), though I did bite the bullet and get into snk a few months back. I thought the animation there at least was detailed and a lot of the establishing shots and combat sequences were very well animated. Plus, the characters all had pretty good arcs, if I did get a bit of darkness-induced apathy and arc fatigue as the season wound down. Still, on the whole if I had to give it a grade, I'd say it's a solid B- as far as entertainment value goes.

Someone I know described that show as being basically a glorified zombie apocalypse show. I never could get on with it, and I flinch whenever I see anyone on Tumblr talk about its social progressiveness (i.e. Mikasa and Hanji), because most of that was done better by earlier shows. But, you know, that's a fringe series that nobody would know about.

The pokemon fandom suffers a lot from the Zelda cycle (though I think, given another gen or two, it may start being called the pokemon cycle instead...). People love the current generation, and the one a few generations back. We're far enough removed from RSE that we have this super rosy nostalgia glow around it, and we're clamoring for remakes. I nuzlocked Ruby and Emerald last year, and I can honestly say that while they were fun games, they're no more or less fun than any other game in the series. Kanto and Johto also have had enough time between instalments (and remakes, yikes) that we have a similar nostalgic glow. Everyone loves Kalos at the moment because it's the next big thing, but I predict that in a generation's time, the lack of a postgame is going to seriously hurt our opinion of it. Gen IV is currently in the "loathed" category, though you can bet that once we get RSE remakes, everyone is going to be saying how much they loved Sinnoh and want to see that one remade. And Unova is in a tricky place because people are pretty divided over it right now. Some people like you, and me, loved the whole fresh start approach and the droves of new pokemon, plus the region's aesthetics, a good storyline and music, etc. Others... I dunno, I guess right now people have latched onto the idea that introducing 150 new pokemon was a bad thing.

You know, I've noticed one thing about most of the people I know who are wetting themselves over the possibility of an RSE remake were, when RS came out, about the same age that I was when RB came out.

Also, I have never played Platinum, but Diamond was probably the worst mainline Pokemon game I've ever played.