I know, many were so sure. Cocky even. Oh well, too bad, so sad, I'm glad.

So all those states who have sat on their assets since 2010 need to get up and get to work. Stop playing games and do the right for the people and not just themselves or corporations for a change. I'm interested to see how Romney spins this! Get the popcorn ready.

"In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer."

Yesterday on FB I wrote: Can someone give me a synonym for conniption fit?
My friend wrote back:Republicans

Originally Posted by Springcurl

HAAAHAAAHAAA!!! Good one!

Is it wrong to pick on the conservatives adn republicans when they are down?

Originally Posted by thelio

You know, speaking only for the Republicans that I know on FB that are friends and acquaintances of mine, I don't think it's wrong at all. They have been posting truly vile stuff about Obama for three years and yesterday they really WERE having a conniption fit, so no, I don't fee like it's wrong.

Obamacare is not a blueprint for socialism. You're thinking of the New Testament. ~~ John Fugelsang

Its not a tax! Oh wait a minute, just kidding, it is a tax. Thats what you call a bait and switch.

Originally Posted by poisonivy

Yes, that's the talking point du jour all over right wing radio/blogosphere/FB today. The fact that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court says that it's a tax and tax not a mandate doesn't mean that President Obama or the congress said that it was.

Obamacare is not a blueprint for socialism. You're thinking of the New Testament. ~~ John Fugelsang

Agreed - I pride myself on being a gracious winner (albeit a very sore loser).

As for the Court's ruling, what do people think their Medicare and Social Security contributions are? There's a reason they call 'em payroll TAXES. (And since Medicare recipients get 40% more in benefits than they actually paid in, it's actually welfare for retirees.)

Its not a tax! Oh wait a minute, just kidding, it is a tax. Thats what you call a bait and switch.

Originally Posted by poisonivy

Yes, that's the talking point du jour all over right wing radio/blogosphere/FB today. The fact that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court says that it's a tax and tax not a mandate doesn't mean that President Obama or the congress said that it was.

Originally Posted by Springcurl

And the way it is viewed as a tax is pretty complicated, according to legal experts I listened to on the news last night. There's this whole thing about activity versus inactivity.

The founding fathers, it turns out, passed several mandates of their own. In 1790, the very first Congress—which incidentally included 20 framers—passed a law that included a mandate: namely, a requirement that ship owners buy medical insurance for their seamen. This law was then signed by another framer: President George Washington. That’s right, the father of our country had no difficulty imposing a health insurance mandate.

And this is a good source to understand exactly how the tax/mandate will work. It's actually a pretty small penalty and not a penalty that will be enforced, as I understand it: