It just amazes me how one of the most defensively proficient teams in the history of the franchise could suddenly turn into the laughable bunch we're seeing right now. Everyone from the rookies to the newbies to the veterans are making mistakes uncharacteristic to the last bunch. I wasn't expecting them to repeat 2012 in that regard, but how could they take such a nosedive so quickly? At the very least, I thought they'd remain above average. It's hard to believe we're seeing a lot of the same players. They better straighten up over the final five months or we're going to see a lot more games lost this way. I'll deal with the ****ty offense. Just get the defense back in order.

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This team/organization just looks sloppy all around. Sloppy defense on the field just fits with everything else. It really makes me wonder if the guys in charge really know what they're doing to let this franchise fall to such an inept level.

This team/organization just looks sloppy all around. Sloppy defense on the field just fits with everything else. It really makes me wonder if the guys in charge really know what they're doing to let this franchise fall to such an inept level.

Well, assuming Hahn has total control over personnel choices, he has to clean up the mess left behind by Kenny and that wasn't going to happen overnight or during one off season. If Kenny still has a lot of say in personnel moves though, the White Sox might be in a LOT trouble.

Also don't underestimate the players in this. They might have simply eased off things, not staying mentally sharp, that turn into physical ones.

In 1995 Robin and the Sox got off to a horrid start defensively, in fact they had a bad strike shortened season.

Years later both Robin and Alex Fernandez admitted that mentally they just weren't into things.

Lip

It is always the players' fault when they don't play well. Always.

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De Aza has never been a good defender and I'm not sure why he ever had that reputation. Last night, he got one of the worst breaks on a ball I've seen in a long time (breaking in on an absolute rocket). The rest of the defensive lapses I saw last night were from back ups or guys playing out of position.

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I'm not counting this homerun or his 3 RBI from today's game because of the game situation. I'm not counting his pinch hit solo homerun in a blowout win in Colorado. In my book, Crede has 2 less home runs than his statistics show, 4 less RBI, and one less walk (the one where he pinch hit for Uribe after coming in with a 3-0 count and taking one pitch).