Jesse Ryder set to quit NZ for England

His performances for his domestic side are good enough for a call up?
He averaged 41 in first class cricket and 24 in list A. He's shown a remarkable ability waste his talent, to stay out drinking before match time, to pile on the pounds and to be an arrogant ****. But I wouldn't say any of those are good reasons to bring him into the New Zealand side. It doesn't matter which country he pledges his allegiance to. He'll never get into any decent side if he keeps behaving like he does now.

Only a bunch of convicts having been beaten 3-0 and gone 9 tests without a win and won just 1 in 11 against England could go into the home series saying they will win. England will win in Australia again this winter as they are a better side which they have shown this summer. 3-0 doesn't lie girls.

I disagree actually, Vincent came out last week saying he's looking at his future overseas, and now Ryder does the same. There have been issues in the past between the players and NZC and I wouldn't be surprised if something similiar is again happening now.

And can you blame them really? NZ players get paid a pathetic salary and most of them would get double, even triple overseas. Much like what many of the All Blacks are doing post WC.

If NZC and NZ Rugby want to keep their young players, they have to pay them accordingly.

I disagree actually, Vincent came out last week saying he's looking at his future overseas, and now Ryder does the same. There have been issues in the past between the players and NZC and I wouldn't be surprised if something similiar is again happening now.

And can you blame them really? NZ players get paid a pathetic salary and most of them would get double, even triple overseas. Much like what many of the All Blacks are doing post WC.

If NZC and NZ Rugby want to keep their young players, they have to pay them accordingly.

Haha, I was expecting you to warn him for breaking the filter before I read your post.

I disagree actually, Vincent came out last week saying he's looking at his future overseas, and now Ryder does the same. There have been issues in the past between the players and NZC and I wouldn't be surprised if something similiar is again happening now.

And can you blame them really? NZ players get paid a pathetic salary and most of them would get double, even triple overseas. Much like what many of the All Blacks are doing post WC.

If NZC and NZ Rugby want to keep their young players, they have to pay them accordingly.

Players like Vincent, I can understand being upset. He's performed well for New Zealand consistently, and yet over the past couple of years has struggled to make it into the New Zealand Contracts list behind a host of pretenders.

Ryder on the other hand, while a ridiculously talented player, has never done anything to suggest he deserves anything more than a standard Wellington retainer. If he wasn't such a fat, lazy, arrogant slob, and actually had a bit of discipline, he would have been in the New Zealand side years ago.

Yes it would be nice if NZC could afford to pay its players more money, but they barely break even every year as it is. And it appears more than anything, that this is all about Ryder's ego being bruised by his exclusion from the New Zealand side. And if he's impatient about that, then I hardly think moving to England, where there are a host of young talented batsmen just like him, and a much heavier emphasis on professionalism than down here, is a smart choice.

Players like Vincent, I can understand being upset. He's performed well for New Zealand consistently, and yet over the past couple of years has struggled to make it into the New Zealand Contracts list behind a host of pretenders.

Ryder on the other hand, while a ridiculously talented player, has never done anything to suggest he deserves anything more than a standard Wellington retainer. If he wasn't such a fat, lazy, arrogant slob, he would have been in the New Zealand side years ago, and actually had a bit of discipline, he would have been in the New Zealand side years ago.

Yes it would be nice if NZC could afford to pay its players more money, but they barely break even every year as it is. And it appears more than anything, that this is all about Ryder's ego being bruised by his exclusion from the New Zealand side. And if he's impatient about that, then I hardly think moving to England, where there are a host of young talented batsmen just like him, and a much heavier emphasis on professionalism than down here, is a smart choice.

Oh, and sorry about the filter.

Fair points although you do take it a bit far in your second paragraph I feel. I don't disagree with you, but I feel as though, perhaps it could all have been handled a little better by NZC as he's obviously felt this way for quite a while.

Self-obsessed waste of talent as far as I'm concerned. Vincent has been there, done the hard yards and made the Black Caps whereas Ryder has done what? Left one association because his drinking was out of control and has massively underachieved in List A. Smarmy upstarts who seem to think they're bigger than the game (and in Ryder's case, that could be applied in the literal sense) are far too common in this day and age and he can go and play for Equatorial Guinea for all I care.