The first association of Tommy Lee and Iggy Pop might be to their wild rock and roll lifestyles in the ’70s and ’80s, but in 2014 it is important to note that they survived. And their survival wasn’t because they continued on the path for which they’re known.

Sum 41‘s Deryck Whibley was on a similar path, only his survival was doubtful if he continued to live the life he was. Earlier this year, Whibley was admitted to the hospital with failure in both his liver and his kidneys due to years of drinking issues, which he noted could have resulted in his death if he had just one more drink.

In a new interview with Kerrang (via NME), Whibley talks about his support unit.

“Now I’m sober, I don’t get calls from certain people that I used to,” he says. “Now I’m the bum-out to them. Who wants to invite the sober guy to the party? Y’know who has been incredibly supportive? Iggy Pop. He had a lot of great advice; he’s been through it all. We’ve been friends for years.”

“Same for Tommy Lee from Mötley Crüe,” Whibley says. “He told me what to expect from people, that not everyone will understand. Duff McKagan and Matt Sorum from Guns N’ Roses have been great too. We go out for coffee and talk about shit.”