Crackdown on illegal parking outside school gates

The number of parking tickets issued on safety Zig-Zag lines outside Bradford schools has increased five-fold in the past two years as Bradford Council aims to “reinforce the safety message” to parents.

According to figures released today, just 32 tickets were given out to motorists across the district’s 215 schools in 2011, but this figure rose sharply to 137 in 2012, and again to 209 last year, an increase of 553 per cent.

The figures, gained via a Freedom of Information Request, form part of the AXA Car Insurance RoadSafe Schools campaign, which found that the number of fixed penalty charge notices given across the UK rose from 14,564 in 2011 to 28,169 in 2013, an increase of 93 per cent.

All figures relate to penalty charge notices given for the violation of contravention code 48, described as parking in restricted areas outside a school, areas where waiting, stopping and dropping off are not permitted.

Councillor Val Slater, Bradford Council’s executive member for housing, planning and transport, said parking in restricted areas was a problem affecting many of the district’s schools.

“The concerns are that this kind of parking is inconsiderate, and it is often parents who risk putting their children in danger,” she said.

“Issuing tickets, often after a concerted period of activity at the school, reinforces the safety message.

“These lines are there for a purpose. They are not there to inconvenience people, they are there to keep children safe.”

Trevor Patterson, head teacher at the 420-pupil Blakehill Primary School in Idle, was forced to call police last year after neighbours complained about parking in streets around the school.

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“It’s an ongoing problem,” he said. “By and large parents are alright, but you do get a small minority that spoil it.

“On occasions, officers will do a sweep and issue the penalty notices, and that does seem to improve things. But after a period of time, the problem comes back.

“We try to advocate parents, wherever possible, to walk their children to school, but I understand that is very difficult for some working parents.

“I welcome the wardens giving out the notices, it helps remind people, but it’s only part of an ongoing education for parents.”

Bryan Richardson, 75, who collects his grandson from the school, said he had to arrive an hour before the end of the school day to make sure he gets an appropriate parking spot.

“I have seen police about, and I don’t want a ticket, so waiting for an hour is the lesser of two evils.” he said.

“The tickets have definitely had an effect, people know about them and behave themselves more now.”

A parent with two children at the school, who did not wish to be named, said: “There are usually PCSOs coming up and down here, which does help. The school is proactive and gives out letters as well, which is good, but some people listen and some people don’t.”

Another parent said: “People often just quickly park on the lines to drop kids off, particularly if they are late on a morning. I used to do it myself, there’s just nowhere else to go.”

Chief Inspector Damien Miller, of Bradford Police (Neighbourhoods), said: “Although West Yorkshire Police is not the lead agency for enforcing parking regulations we recognise the inconvenience inconsiderate parking can lead to.

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“If people tell us about a parking problem, we will look to work with partners to improve the situation and will, where necessary, take enforcement action against those breaking the rules.

Exactly! I bet if asked, some parents wouldn't know what the lines were.

Score: 33

oddshapedballs says...7:09am Fri 16 May 14

I agree with the no parking thing but once again the police are taking actiom against the easy option. Bradford has countless problems in certain areas yet the police are too scared to pursue the individuals responsible.

I agree with the no parking thing but once again the police are taking actiom against the easy option. Bradford has countless problems in certain areas yet the police are too scared to pursue the individuals responsible.oddshapedballs

I agree with the no parking thing but once again the police are taking actiom against the easy option. Bradford has countless problems in certain areas yet the police are too scared to pursue the individuals responsible.

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Albion. says...7:13am Fri 16 May 14

oddshapedballs wrote…

I agree with the no parking thing but once again the police are taking actiom against the easy option. Bradford has countless problems in certain areas yet the police are too scared to pursue the individuals responsible.

It's council wardens who are doing the job.

[quote][p][bold]oddshapedballs[/bold] wrote:
I agree with the no parking thing but once again the police are taking actiom against the easy option. Bradford has countless problems in certain areas yet the police are too scared to pursue the individuals responsible.[/p][/quote]It's council wardens who are doing the job.Albion.

oddshapedballs wrote…

I agree with the no parking thing but once again the police are taking actiom against the easy option. Bradford has countless problems in certain areas yet the police are too scared to pursue the individuals responsible.

It's council wardens who are doing the job.

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collos25 says...7:26am Fri 16 May 14

Down Killinghall Road they would all park on top of each other if they could to get a bit nearer the school gates

Down Killinghall Road they would all park on top of each other if they could to get a bit nearer the school gatescollos25

Down Killinghall Road they would all park on top of each other if they could to get a bit nearer the school gates

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Walruss says...7:48am Fri 16 May 14

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.Walruss

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

Score: 32

i'dliketosay says...7:53am Fri 16 May 14

Lazy parents won't even get out of the car and use the 'empty space' as a dropoff point. We have had PCSOs outside the school gate on occasions but the as soon as they're gone the lazy sods just do it againm I have seen severaltimes kids almost hit by a car. They should make the while area around the scool gates pededestrian only.

Lazy parents won't even get out of the car and use the 'empty space' as a dropoff point. We have had PCSOs outside the school gate on occasions but the as soon as they're gone the lazy sods just do it againm I have seen severaltimes kids almost hit by a car. They should make the while area around the scool gates pededestrian only.i'dliketosay

Lazy parents won't even get out of the car and use the 'empty space' as a dropoff point. We have had PCSOs outside the school gate on occasions but the as soon as they're gone the lazy sods just do it againm I have seen severaltimes kids almost hit by a car. They should make the while area around the scool gates pededestrian only.

Score: 26

mad matt says...8:31am Fri 16 May 14

I live opposite a school and the behaviour of a lot of the parents/drivers is disgusting. It's not just the parking or double parking on the zig-zags, it's the general driving. Drivers with their telephone in one hand, trying to steer and change gear with the other hand and THEIR OWN KIDS in the car, drivers AND their own kids not wearing seat belts, drivers generally ignoring every rule of the road because they're too d++n lazy. Then there are the other parents and kids trying to cross the road outside the school, putting their lives at risk because of all the stupid motorists. Where are all the council wardens? Somewhere else out of the way! Before anybody starts commenting on if I'm a motorist or not - yes I have a clean licence after well over 50 years of driving all classes of vehicles all over the country.

I live opposite a school and the behaviour of a lot of the parents/drivers is disgusting.
It's not just the parking or double parking on the zig-zags, it's the general driving. Drivers with their telephone in one hand, trying to steer and change gear with the other hand and THEIR OWN KIDS in the car, drivers AND their own kids not wearing seat belts, drivers generally ignoring every rule of the road because they're too d++n lazy.
Then there are the other parents and kids trying to cross the road outside the school, putting their lives at risk because of all the stupid motorists.
Where are all the council wardens? Somewhere else out of the way!
Before anybody starts commenting on if I'm a motorist or not - yes I have a clean licence after well over 50 years of driving all classes of vehicles all over the country.mad matt

I live opposite a school and the behaviour of a lot of the parents/drivers is disgusting. It's not just the parking or double parking on the zig-zags, it's the general driving. Drivers with their telephone in one hand, trying to steer and change gear with the other hand and THEIR OWN KIDS in the car, drivers AND their own kids not wearing seat belts, drivers generally ignoring every rule of the road because they're too d++n lazy. Then there are the other parents and kids trying to cross the road outside the school, putting their lives at risk because of all the stupid motorists. Where are all the council wardens? Somewhere else out of the way! Before anybody starts commenting on if I'm a motorist or not - yes I have a clean licence after well over 50 years of driving all classes of vehicles all over the country.

Score: 25

bd7 helper says...8:38am Fri 16 May 14

Save money and exercise during school times

Save money and exercise during school timesbd7 helper

Save money and exercise during school times

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Banni2 says...8:48am Fri 16 May 14

Walruss wrote…

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.

[quote][p][bold]Walruss[/bold] wrote:
Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.[/p][/quote]I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt.
Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.Banni2

Walruss wrote…

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.

Score: -15

Old Peculiar says...9:16am Fri 16 May 14

Bit of a sideways point, but is there any link between the increase in mums driving their children to school (apparently over 50% of primary school kids are driven to school), and the increase in the mum's waistlines over the past few decades ? Need to get home for Jeremy Kyle..........

Bit of a sideways point, but is there any link between the increase in mums driving their children to school (apparently over 50% of primary school kids are driven to school), and the increase in the mum's waistlines over the past few decades ?
Need to get home for Jeremy Kyle..........Old Peculiar

Bit of a sideways point, but is there any link between the increase in mums driving their children to school (apparently over 50% of primary school kids are driven to school), and the increase in the mum's waistlines over the past few decades ? Need to get home for Jeremy Kyle..........

Score: 17

sorrow&anger says...9:24am Fri 16 May 14

Although this should be all about safety, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that it's more about revenue.

Although this should be all about safety, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that it's more about revenue.sorrow&anger

Although this should be all about safety, it's hard to avoid the conclusion that it's more about revenue.

Score: -13

cockadoodledo says...9:24am Fri 16 May 14

The only way these parents will begin to obey the laws is fine them, no more warnings! It's a certain few who think they are above the law. It's for the safety of the children!!!

The only way these parents will begin to obey the laws is fine them, no more warnings! It's a certain few who think they are above the law. It's for the safety of the children!!!cockadoodledo

The only way these parents will begin to obey the laws is fine them, no more warnings! It's a certain few who think they are above the law. It's for the safety of the children!!!

Score: 18

MRH1234 says...9:26am Fri 16 May 14

Banni2 wrote…

Walruss wrote…

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.

Rubbish - the parking issue is a problem at my kids (predominantly English) school. It is downright laziness which causes this ... you could educate as much as you want and it would not make an iota of difference ... same as fly tipping, and riding unlicenced vehicles etc. Fines should be made tougher, better enforced and should be able to be given out by a school representative. Non payment should result in community service !

[quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Walruss[/bold] wrote: Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.[/p][/quote]I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.[/p][/quote]Rubbish - the parking issue is a problem at my kids (predominantly English) school.
It is downright laziness which causes this ... you could educate as much as you want and it would not make an iota of difference ... same as fly tipping, and riding unlicenced vehicles etc.
Fines should be made tougher, better enforced and should be able to be given out by a school representative. Non payment should result in community service !MRH1234

Banni2 wrote…

Walruss wrote…

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.

Rubbish - the parking issue is a problem at my kids (predominantly English) school. It is downright laziness which causes this ... you could educate as much as you want and it would not make an iota of difference ... same as fly tipping, and riding unlicenced vehicles etc. Fines should be made tougher, better enforced and should be able to be given out by a school representative. Non payment should result in community service !

Score: 35

MRH1234 says...9:29am Fri 16 May 14

MRH1234 wrote…

Banni2 wrote…

Walruss wrote…

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.

Rubbish - the parking issue is a problem at my kids (predominantly English) school. It is downright laziness which causes this ... you could educate as much as you want and it would not make an iota of difference ... same as fly tipping, and riding unlicenced vehicles etc. Fines should be made tougher, better enforced and should be able to be given out by a school representative. Non payment should result in community service !

Although I do agree with Banni2's licence argument!

[quote][p][bold]MRH1234[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Walruss[/bold] wrote: Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.[/p][/quote]I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.[/p][/quote]Rubbish - the parking issue is a problem at my kids (predominantly English) school. It is downright laziness which causes this ... you could educate as much as you want and it would not make an iota of difference ... same as fly tipping, and riding unlicenced vehicles etc. Fines should be made tougher, better enforced and should be able to be given out by a school representative. Non payment should result in community service ![/p][/quote]Although I do agree with Banni2's licence argument!MRH1234

MRH1234 wrote…

Banni2 wrote…

Walruss wrote…

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.

Rubbish - the parking issue is a problem at my kids (predominantly English) school. It is downright laziness which causes this ... you could educate as much as you want and it would not make an iota of difference ... same as fly tipping, and riding unlicenced vehicles etc. Fines should be made tougher, better enforced and should be able to be given out by a school representative. Non payment should result in community service !

Although I do agree with Banni2's licence argument!

Score: 6

vikkifizz says...12:25pm Fri 16 May 14

There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.

There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.vikkifizz

There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.

Score: 8

Andy2010 says...12:35pm Fri 16 May 14

vikkifizz wrote…

There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.

Well why not set off 5 mins earlier, park up and walk your child to the school gates? Too much effort?

[quote][p][bold]vikkifizz[/bold] wrote:
There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.[/p][/quote]Well why not set off 5 mins earlier, park up and walk your child to the school gates?
Too much effort?Andy2010

vikkifizz wrote…

There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.

Well why not set off 5 mins earlier, park up and walk your child to the school gates? Too much effort?

Score: 8

vikkifizz says...12:38pm Fri 16 May 14

Because Andy2010 they are 14,13 and 12 respectively and do not need 'hand holding'.

Because Andy2010 they are 14,13 and 12 respectively and do not need 'hand holding'.vikkifizz

Because Andy2010 they are 14,13 and 12 respectively and do not need 'hand holding'.

Score: 1

linebacker2 says...12:38pm Fri 16 May 14

Dog mess is more of a hazard to children than parking near school gates, a large percentage of the population is now infected with toxmosis gondi. The council has the legal powers to take enforcement against dog fouling - but neglect to do so, maybe because there's no money in it?

Dog mess is more of a hazard to children than parking near school gates, a large percentage of the population is now infected with toxmosis gondi. The council has the legal powers to take enforcement against dog fouling - but neglect to do so, maybe because there's no money in it?linebacker2

Dog mess is more of a hazard to children than parking near school gates, a large percentage of the population is now infected with toxmosis gondi. The council has the legal powers to take enforcement against dog fouling - but neglect to do so, maybe because there's no money in it?

Score: 6

Andy2010 says...12:45pm Fri 16 May 14

vikkifizz wrote…

Because Andy2010 they are 14,13 and 12 respectively and do not need 'hand holding'.

Jeez you had a busy 3 years. In that case then just drop them around the corner where its safe and let them walk a bit You dont upset anyone them with your selfish parking

[quote][p][bold]vikkifizz[/bold] wrote:
Because Andy2010 they are 14,13 and 12 respectively and do not need 'hand holding'.[/p][/quote]Jeez you had a busy 3 years. In that case then just drop them around the corner where its safe and let them walk a bit
You dont upset anyone them with your selfish parkingAndy2010

vikkifizz wrote…

Because Andy2010 they are 14,13 and 12 respectively and do not need 'hand holding'.

Jeez you had a busy 3 years. In that case then just drop them around the corner where its safe and let them walk a bit You dont upset anyone them with your selfish parking

Score: 7

born n bred says...1:11pm Fri 16 May 14

try the school at Cottingley, or the one behind Hallmark cards. Make a small fortune everyday. But no they hit the church worshippers in bingley on Sundays. Easy options everytime

try the school at Cottingley, or the one behind Hallmark cards. Make a small fortune everyday. But no they hit the church worshippers in bingley on Sundays. Easy options everytimeborn n bred

try the school at Cottingley, or the one behind Hallmark cards. Make a small fortune everyday. But no they hit the church worshippers in bingley on Sundays. Easy options everytime

Score: 12

WayneRouke says...1:12pm Fri 16 May 14

Andy2010 wrote…

vikkifizz wrote…

There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.

Well why not set off 5 mins earlier, park up and walk your child to the school gates? Too much effort?

Or walk ALL the way, burn some sugar and energy off. Healthier, fitter and less prone to obesity. Why do they need to be dropped off at all??

[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]vikkifizz[/bold] wrote:
There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.[/p][/quote]Well why not set off 5 mins earlier, park up and walk your child to the school gates?
Too much effort?[/p][/quote]Or walk ALL the way, burn some sugar and energy off. Healthier, fitter and less prone to obesity.
Why do they need to be dropped off at all??WayneRouke

Andy2010 wrote…

vikkifizz wrote…

There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.

Well why not set off 5 mins earlier, park up and walk your child to the school gates? Too much effort?

Or walk ALL the way, burn some sugar and energy off. Healthier, fitter and less prone to obesity. Why do they need to be dropped off at all??

Score: 16

Andy2010 says...1:16pm Fri 16 May 14

WayneRouke wrote…

Andy2010 wrote…

vikkifizz wrote…

There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.

Well why not set off 5 mins earlier, park up and walk your child to the school gates? Too much effort?

Or walk ALL the way, burn some sugar and energy off. Healthier, fitter and less prone to obesity. Why do they need to be dropped off at all??

That's what I thought at that age but don't know the distances involved etc but surely they should be making their own way to school at them ages either on foot or public transport?

[quote][p][bold]WayneRouke[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]vikkifizz[/bold] wrote:
There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.[/p][/quote]Well why not set off 5 mins earlier, park up and walk your child to the school gates?
Too much effort?[/p][/quote]Or walk ALL the way, burn some sugar and energy off. Healthier, fitter and less prone to obesity.
Why do they need to be dropped off at all??[/p][/quote]That's what I thought at that age but don't know the distances involved etc but surely they should be making their own way to school at them ages either on foot or public transport?Andy2010

WayneRouke wrote…

Andy2010 wrote…

vikkifizz wrote…

There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.

Well why not set off 5 mins earlier, park up and walk your child to the school gates? Too much effort?

Or walk ALL the way, burn some sugar and energy off. Healthier, fitter and less prone to obesity. Why do they need to be dropped off at all??

That's what I thought at that age but don't know the distances involved etc but surely they should be making their own way to school at them ages either on foot or public transport?

Score: 13

knox615 says...2:08pm Fri 16 May 14

vikkifizz wrote…

There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.

Even a few seconds parked up outside the school is dangerous. Its creating an obstruction for visibility and a distraction for other drivers, which could result in someone elses child being injured. Come on, please be less selfish and use some common sense.

[quote][p][bold]vikkifizz[/bold] wrote:
There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.[/p][/quote]Even a few seconds parked up outside the school is dangerous. Its creating an obstruction for visibility and a distraction for other drivers, which could result in someone elses child being injured. Come on, please be less selfish and use some common sense.knox615

vikkifizz wrote…

There should be absolutely no reason to park up. Use a drop off point outside the school and if there isn't one, then it is time the school had one but parents need to be aware that they literally just drop off - don't sit in the car and chat to the person standing on duty! I am a parent who works and I drop off outside the school and go.

Even a few seconds parked up outside the school is dangerous. Its creating an obstruction for visibility and a distraction for other drivers, which could result in someone elses child being injured. Come on, please be less selfish and use some common sense.

Score: 11

yorkielady1! says...2:28pm Fri 16 May 14

Banni2 wrote…

Walruss wrote…

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.

Most of the terrible/illegal parking round my daughter's school is by people who were born, bred, and licensed to drive here.

[quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Walruss[/bold] wrote: Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.[/p][/quote]I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.[/p][/quote]Most of the terrible/illegal parking round my daughter's school is by people who were born, bred, and licensed to drive here.yorkielady1!

Banni2 wrote…

Walruss wrote…

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.

Most of the terrible/illegal parking round my daughter's school is by people who were born, bred, and licensed to drive here.

Score: 5

yorkielady1! says...2:31pm Fri 16 May 14

Old Peculiar wrote…

Bit of a sideways point, but is there any link between the increase in mums driving their children to school (apparently over 50% of primary school kids are driven to school), and the increase in the mum's waistlines over the past few decades ? Need to get home for Jeremy Kyle..........

...Or maybe they're dropping the children off on their way to work? All of the mums I know who drive their children to school are doing so out of necessity. And most of the fat mums I know are ones who walk their children to school then walk back home to watch Jeremy Kyle.

[quote][p][bold]Old Peculiar[/bold] wrote:
Bit of a sideways point, but is there any link between the increase in mums driving their children to school (apparently over 50% of primary school kids are driven to school), and the increase in the mum's waistlines over the past few decades ? Need to get home for Jeremy Kyle..........[/p][/quote]...Or maybe they're dropping the children off on their way to work? All of the mums I know who drive their children to school are doing so out of necessity. And most of the fat mums I know are ones who walk their children to school then walk back home to watch Jeremy Kyle.yorkielady1!

Old Peculiar wrote…

Bit of a sideways point, but is there any link between the increase in mums driving their children to school (apparently over 50% of primary school kids are driven to school), and the increase in the mum's waistlines over the past few decades ? Need to get home for Jeremy Kyle..........

...Or maybe they're dropping the children off on their way to work? All of the mums I know who drive their children to school are doing so out of necessity. And most of the fat mums I know are ones who walk their children to school then walk back home to watch Jeremy Kyle.

Score: 5

Smell the coffee says...2:33pm Fri 16 May 14

Head teachers should suspend kids who's parents park on zig zag lines to drop them off. The problem will stop over night.

Head teachers should suspend kids who's parents park on zig zag lines to drop them off. The problem will stop over night.Smell the coffee

Head teachers should suspend kids who's parents park on zig zag lines to drop them off. The problem will stop over night.

Score: 7

yorkielady1! says...2:33pm Fri 16 May 14

Andy2010 wrote…

vikkifizz wrote…

Because Andy2010 they are 14,13 and 12 respectively and do not need 'hand holding'.

Jeez you had a busy 3 years. In that case then just drop them around the corner where its safe and let them walk a bit You dont upset anyone them with your selfish parking

Or make them get the bus...

[quote][p][bold]Andy2010[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]vikkifizz[/bold] wrote: Because Andy2010 they are 14,13 and 12 respectively and do not need 'hand holding'.[/p][/quote]Jeez you had a busy 3 years. In that case then just drop them around the corner where its safe and let them walk a bit You dont upset anyone them with your selfish parking[/p][/quote]Or make them get the bus...yorkielady1!

Andy2010 wrote…

vikkifizz wrote…

Because Andy2010 they are 14,13 and 12 respectively and do not need 'hand holding'.

Jeez you had a busy 3 years. In that case then just drop them around the corner where its safe and let them walk a bit You dont upset anyone them with your selfish parking

Or make them get the bus...

Score: 4

son123 says...4:05pm Fri 16 May 14

Its getting beyond a joke outside bd2 school same peeps morning noon and afternoon even when theres spaces.

Its getting beyond a joke outside bd2 school same peeps morning noon and afternoon even when theres spaces.son123

Its getting beyond a joke outside bd2 school same peeps morning noon and afternoon even when theres spaces.

Score: 7

spanglishbull.uk says...4:39pm Fri 16 May 14

Hands up all those who NEVER got a lift to school.I lived in Wibsey and went to school in Heaton.Two buses and nearly an hour journey there,same coming back.To the lady with 3 children 12,13,14 make them get the bus or better still walk if they are in walking distance.Oh no ,mummy has to take the little darlings.

Hands up all those who NEVER got a lift to school.I lived in Wibsey and went to school in Heaton.Two buses and nearly an hour journey there,same coming back.To the lady with 3 children 12,13,14 make them get the bus or better still walk if they are in walking distance.Oh no ,mummy has to take the little darlings.spanglishbull.uk

Hands up all those who NEVER got a lift to school.I lived in Wibsey and went to school in Heaton.Two buses and nearly an hour journey there,same coming back.To the lady with 3 children 12,13,14 make them get the bus or better still walk if they are in walking distance.Oh no ,mummy has to take the little darlings.

Score: 10

micela22 says...5:28pm Fri 16 May 14

lived opposite St Anthonys, Bradford Road for years, a new crossing has been installed, new road markings & lots of flowers planted in the grass area, making the area attractive for local residents. After Easter holidays the `parents` returned dropping their kids off, the flowers are trashed, the grass areas a mud bath with tyre tracks, total disregard for local people how and where they park. With regard to the gentleman who sets off 1 hour earlier to allow him to park I`m sure he has alternatives

lived opposite St Anthonys, Bradford Road for years, a new crossing has been installed, new road markings & lots of flowers planted in the grass area, making the area attractive for local residents. After Easter holidays the `parents` returned dropping their kids off, the flowers are trashed, the grass areas a mud bath with tyre tracks, total disregard for local people how and where they park. With regard to the gentleman who sets off 1 hour earlier to allow him to park I`m sure he has alternativesmicela22

lived opposite St Anthonys, Bradford Road for years, a new crossing has been installed, new road markings & lots of flowers planted in the grass area, making the area attractive for local residents. After Easter holidays the `parents` returned dropping their kids off, the flowers are trashed, the grass areas a mud bath with tyre tracks, total disregard for local people how and where they park. With regard to the gentleman who sets off 1 hour earlier to allow him to park I`m sure he has alternatives

Score: 4

Colin Allcars says...9:15pm Sat 17 May 14

born n bred wrote…

try the school at Cottingley, or the one behind Hallmark cards. Make a small fortune everyday. But no they hit the church worshippers in bingley on Sundays. Easy options everytime

Is that the school where young men in expensive cars, park close to at the end of the school day?

[quote][p][bold]born n bred[/bold] wrote:
try the school at Cottingley, or the one behind Hallmark cards. Make a small fortune everyday. But no they hit the church worshippers in bingley on Sundays. Easy options everytime[/p][/quote]Is that the school where young men in expensive cars, park close to at the end of the school day?Colin Allcars

born n bred wrote…

try the school at Cottingley, or the one behind Hallmark cards. Make a small fortune everyday. But no they hit the church worshippers in bingley on Sundays. Easy options everytime

Is that the school where young men in expensive cars, park close to at the end of the school day?

Score: 3

Banni2 says...10:27pm Sat 17 May 14

MRH1234 wrote…

Banni2 wrote…

Walruss wrote…

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.

Rubbish - the parking issue is a problem at my kids (predominantly English) school. It is downright laziness which causes this ... you could educate as much as you want and it would not make an iota of difference ... same as fly tipping, and riding unlicenced vehicles etc. Fines should be made tougher, better enforced and should be able to be given out by a school representative. Non payment should result in community service !

I think that's a brilliant idea,make them pay big fines, take their 4x4s and use the money to pay the fines.

[quote][p][bold]MRH1234[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Walruss[/bold] wrote: Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.[/p][/quote]I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.[/p][/quote]Rubbish - the parking issue is a problem at my kids (predominantly English) school.
It is downright laziness which causes this ... you could educate as much as you want and it would not make an iota of difference ... same as fly tipping, and riding unlicenced vehicles etc.
Fines should be made tougher, better enforced and should be able to be given out by a school representative. Non payment should result in community service ![/p][/quote]I think that's a brilliant idea,make them pay big fines, take their 4x4s and use the money to pay the fines.Banni2

MRH1234 wrote…

Banni2 wrote…

Walruss wrote…

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.

Rubbish - the parking issue is a problem at my kids (predominantly English) school. It is downright laziness which causes this ... you could educate as much as you want and it would not make an iota of difference ... same as fly tipping, and riding unlicenced vehicles etc. Fines should be made tougher, better enforced and should be able to be given out by a school representative. Non payment should result in community service !

I think that's a brilliant idea,make them pay big fines, take their 4x4s and use the money to pay the fines.

Score: 7

Banni2 says...10:34pm Sat 17 May 14

collos25 wrote…

Down Killinghall Road they would all park on top of each other if they could to get a bit nearer the school gates

Unfortunately most of the drivers come from the Killinghall area of Bradford,. And it would appear that that they don't understand the logic of walking or catching a bus. It's maybe a vanity thing to use a big car to take their children to school especially when the average family in that area is 4/5 children. But who cares, things will not change.

[quote][p][bold]collos25[/bold] wrote:
Down Killinghall Road they would all park on top of each other if they could to get a bit nearer the school gates[/p][/quote]Unfortunately most of the drivers come from the Killinghall area of Bradford,. And it would appear that that they don't understand the logic of walking or catching a bus. It's maybe a vanity thing to use a big car to take their children to school especially when the average family in that area is 4/5 children. But who cares, things will not change.Banni2

collos25 wrote…

Down Killinghall Road they would all park on top of each other if they could to get a bit nearer the school gates

Unfortunately most of the drivers come from the Killinghall area of Bradford,. And it would appear that that they don't understand the logic of walking or catching a bus. It's maybe a vanity thing to use a big car to take their children to school especially when the average family in that area is 4/5 children. But who cares, things will not change.

Score: 7

Beaten-nurse says...2:14am Sun 18 May 14

This is my biggest annoyance. I work. I set off early, park 5 minutes away and walk on to the school then back to my car and continue to work. I frequently have to dodge traffic on the yellow zigzags with my 3 year old and see a number of fat parents and children parked illegally so they don't have to walk more than 10 metres. I reckon these are the same Jeremy Kyle watching, self absorbed people who would be running to a solicitor if their own child was injured trying to cross the road. Disgusting, thoughtless idiots.

This is my biggest annoyance. I work. I set off early, park 5 minutes away and walk on to the school then back to my car and continue to work. I frequently have to dodge traffic on the yellow zigzags with my 3 year old and see a number of fat parents and children parked illegally so they don't have to walk more than 10 metres. I reckon these are the same Jeremy Kyle watching, self absorbed people who would be running to a solicitor if their own child was injured trying to cross the road. Disgusting, thoughtless idiots.Beaten-nurse

This is my biggest annoyance. I work. I set off early, park 5 minutes away and walk on to the school then back to my car and continue to work. I frequently have to dodge traffic on the yellow zigzags with my 3 year old and see a number of fat parents and children parked illegally so they don't have to walk more than 10 metres. I reckon these are the same Jeremy Kyle watching, self absorbed people who would be running to a solicitor if their own child was injured trying to cross the road. Disgusting, thoughtless idiots.

Score: 9

Beaten-nurse says...2:18am Sun 18 May 14

spanglishbull.uk wrote…

Hands up all those who NEVER got a lift to school.I lived in Wibsey and went to school in Heaton.Two buses and nearly an hour journey there,same coming back.To the lady with 3 children 12,13,14 make them get the bus or better still walk if they are in walking distance.Oh no ,mummy has to take the little darlings.

2 buses to the other side of Bradford for me too - from 11 years old. I agree they should walk or use public transport. There is no reason for all those people to drive their kids to school every day. How do they think parents who don't drive manage?

[quote][p][bold]spanglishbull.uk[/bold] wrote:
Hands up all those who NEVER got a lift to school.I lived in Wibsey and went to school in Heaton.Two buses and nearly an hour journey there,same coming back.To the lady with 3 children 12,13,14 make them get the bus or better still walk if they are in walking distance.Oh no ,mummy has to take the little darlings.[/p][/quote]2 buses to the other side of Bradford for me too - from 11 years old. I agree they should walk or use public transport. There is no reason for all those people to drive their kids to school every day. How do they think parents who don't drive manage?Beaten-nurse

spanglishbull.uk wrote…

Hands up all those who NEVER got a lift to school.I lived in Wibsey and went to school in Heaton.Two buses and nearly an hour journey there,same coming back.To the lady with 3 children 12,13,14 make them get the bus or better still walk if they are in walking distance.Oh no ,mummy has to take the little darlings.

2 buses to the other side of Bradford for me too - from 11 years old. I agree they should walk or use public transport. There is no reason for all those people to drive their kids to school every day. How do they think parents who don't drive manage?

Score: 5

mickfitz says...11:05am Sun 18 May 14

whats cllr slater doing about the parking at woodside where shes governor major probs there

whats cllr slater doing about the parking at woodside where shes governor
major probs theremickfitz

whats cllr slater doing about the parking at woodside where shes governor major probs there

Score: 4

Colin Allcars says...7:16pm Sun 18 May 14

Surely that Killinghall School could use some of their buses to collect children. I have often heard how Barkerend is such a deprived area and it is not fair so many people are having to risk being spotted without car tax, insurance and driving licences so they can leave home at 8.50 to get their kid to school exactly at 8.55

Surely that Killinghall School could use some of their buses to collect children. I have often heard how Barkerend is such a deprived area and it is not fair so many people are having to risk being spotted without car tax, insurance and driving licences so they can leave home at 8.50 to get their kid to school exactly at 8.55Colin Allcars

Surely that Killinghall School could use some of their buses to collect children. I have often heard how Barkerend is such a deprived area and it is not fair so many people are having to risk being spotted without car tax, insurance and driving licences so they can leave home at 8.50 to get their kid to school exactly at 8.55

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.

Rubbish - the parking issue is a problem at my kids (predominantly English) school. It is downright laziness which causes this ... you could educate as much as you want and it would not make an iota of difference ... same as fly tipping, and riding unlicenced vehicles etc. Fines should be made tougher, better enforced and should be able to be given out by a school representative. Non payment should result in community service !

You not read the court section of the T&A for motoring offenses seems to me to be mainly the usual Community of peoples.Get cameras out side schools with number plate recognition any wrong doers should be hammered with a big fine and given points for dangerous driving.

[quote][p][bold]MRH1234[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Banni2[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Walruss[/bold] wrote: Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.[/p][/quote]I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.[/p][/quote]Rubbish - the parking issue is a problem at my kids (predominantly English) school.
It is downright laziness which causes this ... you could educate as much as you want and it would not make an iota of difference ... same as fly tipping, and riding unlicenced vehicles etc.
Fines should be made tougher, better enforced and should be able to be given out by a school representative. Non payment should result in community service ![/p][/quote]You not read the court section of the T&A for motoring offenses seems to me to be mainly the usual Community of peoples.Get cameras out side schools with number plate recognition any wrong doers should be hammered with a big fine and given points for dangerous driving.RED65

MRH1234 wrote…

Banni2 wrote…

Walruss wrote…

Those who park on the zig-zag lines are putting children's lives at risk. They really do need to be educated.

I think a small part of the problem is that many of the drivers have little understanding of the English language or it's laws and when taking the driving test, (that's if they have) fail to put into practice what they have learnt. Yet again this subject is very political,the powers that be should start from the very beginning and carry out spot checks to ensure drivers have licences instead of just issuing penalty notices for parking outside schools. Will they do it, I think not.

Rubbish - the parking issue is a problem at my kids (predominantly English) school. It is downright laziness which causes this ... you could educate as much as you want and it would not make an iota of difference ... same as fly tipping, and riding unlicenced vehicles etc. Fines should be made tougher, better enforced and should be able to be given out by a school representative. Non payment should result in community service !

You not read the court section of the T&A for motoring offenses seems to me to be mainly the usual Community of peoples.Get cameras out side schools with number plate recognition any wrong doers should be hammered with a big fine and given points for dangerous driving.

Score: 2

Haji says...8:13pm Mon 9 Jun 14

How do you stop them at st Matthews? Most parents don't realise they are teaching their kids unwittingly to ignore the law

How do you stop them at st Matthews? Most parents don't realise they are teaching their kids unwittingly to ignore the lawHaji

How do you stop them at st Matthews? Most parents don't realise they are teaching their kids unwittingly to ignore the law

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