9/21 "The Chinese Red Cross said it would provide 827,000 yuan
(US$100,000) in disaster aid and 500,000 yuan (US$60,500)
in relief supplies [for Taiwan]"
Is this a communist joke?
\_ China is not as rich as the US you fucker, you can't weight
everything in $ scale.
\-at least they arent sending the people army to "help" --psb
\_ why is the west so against what China do or say? Isn't the world
Gene imagined in the star trek world a communist like society?
the US want to be the super power, and it will do anything to
convince its citizen what they did or say was right. Face it
people, we don't have the greatest system in the world. Only
in the US would teenagers use machine guns against classmates.
\_ First off, anyone trying to make a Star Trek reference like
this has got to be a troll. That and the Chinglish grammar
are big give aways. With that understanding... The reason
the US _is_ (not 'wants to be') the only super power is because
the US _does_ have the greatest system in the world. It is
clearly _not_ perfect. It _is_ the best, though. There isn't
another system on the planet now or ever in the past that could
come even close to making a successful society like we have
here. The only ones that come even close have completely
homogenous people ethnically and culturally. Do I think gun
toting teens is a good thing? No. Do I think that makes other
countries better? No. You're looking at one miniscule aspect
of any incredible complex culture and painting the whole thing
with the same brush. More people died at TS 10 years ago after
the benevolent Chinese government rolled in the tanks than have
died in US from angst ridden teenaged gun massacres in total.
Can't have your cake and eat it too, unless you're a troll.
\_ We do have a great system here, but its far from perfect.
We have a great economical system, but we don't have a
nearly as good criminal justice system. I've been living
in this country for nearly 15 years, I can tell you in
one simple word, its complely fucked up. Criminals are
\_ By my count, that's 4 words.
simply not afraid of the law, even I am not afraid to
commit a crime. I'd think twice about the same if I am
into White.
in China. We have lawyers here that can turn Black
into White. People come here to get rich, they do not
come here for out great system. Instead of seeing every
other system in the world as inferior, maybe its time
you actually go to one, where you realize you can freely
wonder at night in any part of the city without fear of
being shot in the head by some drunk.
We have a great economical system, capitalism and
competition benefits us all. But out justice system
leaves too much to be desired. When US bombed the Chinese
embassy, how many US citizens were hurt in China? Can
you say the same if the situation were reversed? Riots,
pure act of violence, like in LA, are somehow justified.
I am not saying China has a great system, it too has much
to be desired, but certainly it is not as bad as most
media would want you to believe. Look at things from a
subjective point of view, or are we just too arrogent to
to admit any fault? When you have been in something for
too long, what is wrong becomes normal.
\_ Here's the mandatory cheap shot: I'd also be afraid to
commit a crime in a totalitarian regime like China. The
legal system here is quite flawed. Easily granted. I'd
rather have the system as it is and simply not walk naked
down the street at night with a $20 taped to each nipple,
than be able to safely do so and live in a totalitarian
society, such as China. Our laws are perfectly good.
The problem is lack of enforcement, letting people out
early for no real reason, and the social ills that lead
to high crime in the first place. I've not been to
China, but I've been to several other countries and the
homogenously "safe" fascist countries are simply boring
and backwater. Even Europe is like the third world but
more dull and safer. I'll keep my gun toting angry
teens. You can have your safe walk at night. You made
another comment about people coming her for money, not
for our system. It's the system that makes the money.
Also, the *vast* and *overwhelming* majority of citizens
do not commit felony level crimes at any time in their
life. Again, the whole country is painted with a single
brush in one color.
\_ So the Star Trek crew is always wearing those red uniforms
because it's an expression of their red commie-lovin, freedom-
hatin tendencies? Damn. As for the whole teen-machine-gun
thing, the reason it'd only happen in the US is because
capitalism ensures our standard of living is *so* high that
even disgruntled teenagers living in stagnant rural backwaters
can afford high quality firearms! Back in your backward country
with its retrograde economic system, those wacky pissed-off kids
have to use big heavy sticks or farm implements. America: love
it or leave it!
\_ Fuck you all. I'm moving to North Korea. It's legal
now!
\_ Read into more about the world Star Trek is painting. It has
so much in common to the socialism/communism society I
learned in school. Or are we so afraid of the truth that
even the mentioning of communism is hated. You have been
taught Communism is bad, but do you _really_ know what it
is about? You don't.
\_ What makes you think we even like the Star Trek version of
a future 'utopia' anyway. Its BOOOORING. AS the 'evil
captain kirk' said in a ST parody on SNL: "GET A LIFE!"
\_ So the perfect future world of Star Trek is supposed to be
some kind of justification for current flawed Chinese
communism? You're just as bad (and as believeable) as
those people who use Ayn Rand and _Atlas Shrugged_ as a
justification for how our lives would be *so* much better
if only we were ruled by handsome superintelligent
plutocrat industrialists with a taste for kinky sex. You
remind me of my Ethnic Studies TA who continually proposed
communism as a solution to all of the world's problems --
and who, when questioned about the flaws and misery in
current communist systems, always answered that they were
due to the fact that those weren't *perfect*
implementations of communism -- once someone created a
*perfect* communist society, everyone would be happy and
no problems would exist.
\_ Speaking of teens with guns, if you haven't seen it yet,
http://www.newgrounds.com/pico/index.html kicks ASS!
\_ Primary mission objective "Troll motd": complete.
\_ I just want to state right now, categorically and for the
record, that I have absolutely *no* problems with Chinese
communists. Particularly if they happen to be hot female spies
willing to trade sexual favors for industrial secrets.
\_ "Uhm, yeah, I'll trade you this, uh, phasor technology for
a blow!!"
\_ That won't work, since the Chinese apparently *have*
phasors and teleporters and all that Star Trek stuff.
Please see above.
\_ Oh, hmm. So they use credits in the Federa-- I mean
in China, too? Or is it the version of ST where they
don't have or need money or crime because everyone is
happy and all provided for? What technology could I
possibly provide to the Chinese spy chick if their
highly superior society is already 500+ years ahead of
of us poor barbarians? Better condoms?
\_ Yup. China has specialized teleporters that beam
out the man's sperm from the woman's body before
it reaches the ovum.
\_ http://www.spartacist.org

9/21 Does biff work on soda? I tried it but it didn't work.
\_ try /csua/bin/philbiff -lots
\_ Don't forget the -mchammer option!
\_ biff is broken and/or obsolete on most Unix machines - it assumes
too much that is no longer true. Use newmail instead.
\_ philbiff is much better than 'newmail'