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Quote:'When the Taliban defeat the allies we will establish Sharia law and take the fight to the enemy,' he blurted through a loudspeaker. end quote.

Which enemy, good sir?The enemy that surrounds you?Or, perhaps the enemy that is above you and will force you to see the profanity of Islam that you embrace.Because to convert to Islam, to worship a demon known as Allah is truly to alienate God.

This kind of thing is exactly the reason why I have half a mind to emigrate to somewhere sane (ie not Europe) and half a mind to get heavily into politics. Fight or flight? Hmmm...

People can't afford houses these days in the UK and people like this, genuinely dangeous sharia missionaries who preach sedition and contempt, get housing benefits to live in nice houses in nice areas, pushing the house prices up as they go, while the average Brit struggles to pay taxes to keep morally worthless people like this in the manner to which they are accustomed.

It's hard not to feel bitter about the state to which we've declined. Us Brits won't stand for it much longer. One day, we will rise up and write a strongly worded letter to the relevant authorities.

There was a documentary about this guy on BBC 3 a few nights ago, made by his stepbrother, who was trying to figure out why Richard had become a radical Islamic sharia missionary. There was a lot of footage of Rich walking round town pouring out scorn-filled, Pharisaical judgements on the kuffar (ie, normal British people), about how evil we are, how immorally we dress, how wastefully we spend our time, etc etc. He was shallow, simple-minded, alienated, misanthropic, unthinking, humourless... but there's still hope for him. He has only been a Muslim for 6 months, maybe he'll chill out or even abandon Islam. I got the impression that he was just looking for somewhere to belong, some people to identify with, and a set of rules by which to live his life. Maybe as he gets older and grows as a person he'll realise that he doesn't Islam for those things.

Don't judge the religino based on the actions of one Muslim. Everyone makes mistakes, and i perosnally don't condone extremist behavior like this in the streets. It kills Dawah and that certainly isn't the example a Muslim should set for others.

The enemy could be the army killing innocent Muslims in night raids in Afghanistan? I hope you have a brain to understand what murder means.And no...We don't worship a demon god? Maybe you do in Christianity..idk?

Ah yes, of course. Don't judge the religion based on the actions of one Muslim.

How about we judge Islam based on it's scriptures and the Hadith? How about we judge Islam based on the example of its prophet, the so called "best man that ever lived"?

But more to the point, how is it Muslims repeatedly tell us not to judge based on one/a few Muslim(s), yet in this same Afghanistan, Christians are being murdered because ONE pastor in Florida THREATENED, didn't do it but THREATENED to burn the Qur'an?

I don't know - I feel a change in the air despite the best efforts of the BBC et al...

It seems to me that more people are beginning to speak out here in the UK. Even those who don't know anything substantial about the tenets of Islam are much less inclined to buy the whole religion of peace shtick. And they are beginning to recognise the doubletalk of the self appointed representatives of the Islamic community.I post on a very popular general forum most days and whenever the subject comes up, am almost never challenged by the Muslims or their apologists, because they know I know ;)Two years ago (when I used to just lurk) they would have come after me regardless, spitting feathers and invective. So I believe their is perhaps some hope for the future insofar as we will at least properly recognise that Islam hasn't just been hi-jacked by a few extremists, but that the problem is rather more fundamental. And Anjem Choudhry's mob have helped facilitate it.I thank them !!

However,I must admit that the Church of England has been woefully inadequate imo, with only one or two exceptions.

You're right that the C of E have been largely useless regarding Islam, with the notable exception of Bishop Michael Nazir Ali who wasn't really supported and ended up leaving to work with persecuted Christians.

People do seem to be waking. My mother, for example, started telling me out of the blue yesterday how annoyed she is that most meat is halal and isn't marked as such. She was always the one to tell me I was being intolerant when I criticised Islam. I don't know if "Islamophobia" is, as Baroness Warsi said, 'passing the dinner table test', but I do know that more people are realising that dislike of Islam isn't just mindless prejudice.

The claim that Muslims possessed a more advanced culture also rests on illusions about the cultural backwardness of Christendom - on the widespread but unfounded belief that subsequent to the fall of Rome, Europe regressed into the Dark Ages and thus lost the cultural heritage that still was thriving in Islam. Volitaire (1694-1778) claimed that after Rome fell, "barbarism, superstition, [and] ignorance covered the face of the world." According to Rousseau (1712-1778), "Europe had relapsed into the barbarism of the earliest ages. The people of this part of the world...lived some centuries ago in a condition worse than ignorance." Edward Gibbon (1737-1794) also pronounced this era as the "triumph of barbarism and religion."

Not surprisingly, this became the received wisdom on the matter. Thus, in his bestselling book The Discoverers (1983), Pulitzer Prize winning historian and Librarian of Congress Daniel J. Boorstin (1914-2004) included a chapter titled "The Prison of Christian Dogma," in which he claimed that the "Dark Ages" began even before the fall of Rome. "Christianity conquered the Roman Empire and most of Europe. Then we observe a Europe-wide phenomenon of scholarly amnesia, which afflicted the continent from A.D. 300 to at least 1300." This occurred because "the leaders of orthodox Christendom built a grand barrier against the progress of knowledge." And in the words of the distinguished historian William Manchester (1922-2004), this was an era "of incessant warfare, corruption, lawlessness, obsession with the strange myths, and an almost impenetrable mindlessness...The Dark Ages were stark in every dimension."

Some of these claims are malicious, and all are astonishingly ignorant. Granted, like the Muslim conquerors, the Germanic tribes that conquered Roman Europe had to acquire considerable culture before they measured up to the predecessors. But, in addition to having many Romans to instruct and guide them, they had the Church, which carefully sustained and advanced the culture inherited from Rome. What is even more significant is that the centuries labeled as the "Dark Ages" were "one of the great innovative eras of mankind," as technology was developed and put into use "on a scale no civilization had previously known." [Jean Gimpel] In fact...it was during the "Dark Ages" that Europe began the greatest technological leap forward that put it far ahead of the rest of the world. This has become so well known that rejection of the "Dark Ages" as an unfounded myth is now reported in the respected dictionaries and encyclopedias that only a few years previously had accepted and promulgated that same myth. Thus, while earlier editions of the Encyclopedia Britannica had identified the five or six centuries after the fall of Rome as the "Dark Ages," the fifteenth edition, published in 1981, dismissed that as an "unacceptable" term because it incorrectly claims this to have been "a period of intellectual darkness and barbarity."

...the claims concerning a more advanced and sophisticated Muslim culture are often based on "intellectualism." But there is far more to culture than books or "book learning." No one can learn how to farm, sail, or win battles by reading Plato or Aristotle. Technology, in the broadest sense of the word, is the stuff of real life that determines how well people live and whether they can protect themselves. And whatever Muslim intellectuals did or didn't know about Aristotle's or Plato's political philosophy in comparison with the knowledge of the learned Christian scholastics, Islamic technology lagged well behind that of the Byzantium and Europe. [Rodney Stark, God's Battalions: The Case for the Crusades (New York: HarperCollins Publishers, 2009), 65-67.]

Its all good to talk about someone you don't even know maybe you should take a good look at yourself and you will see that what Brother Sallahuddin is "Preaching" is the truth and you think western women are liberated because you are always naked and plastered across billboards, magazines and newspapers? this is expolitation and opression and Islam is here to take you out of this opression.And for evryone who thinks that his feeding off you you are wrong because under the islamic state All the things we pay for like electricity, water, gas,etc would be free as all these are natural resources and look in to history you silly uneducated people when we had the islamic state years ago we had the shariah law and it was benefical for everyone we lived among non-muslims without opressing them and they lived happily Islam has a solution for evrything . think about it people embrace Islam and reap the benefits of this world and the hereafter.

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