PC gamers (like myself) should be happy that there is a new generation of consoles out with newer hardware, it means that lots of features that we have had access to might finally get used (Such as DX11). Games will look better, and since both the XBO and PS4 are x86 machines, it means that porting games just got that much easier, and maybe, just maybe, we'll see fewer console exclusive games

Look guys. We PC gamers have triumphantly crowed that each new generation of consoles was heralding the "end of the console era." And we know that every new generation of consoles have sold more than the last generation.

But this time, we really, really mean it. It's really going to be the end of consoles, we pinky swear.

This PC gamer isn't celebrating the lack. Frankly, I was hoping that the next-gen consoles would bring more to the table than a low-end gaming PC with a restrictive OS (and, in the case of one of them, the very same forms of draconian DRM I've fought so hard against on PC). Say what you will about Nintendo, but they seem to be the only people who are still trying to make something different.

frepnog:LoR75: Also, Battletoads still gives me nightmares to this day.

I view Battletoads almost like I view Woodstock - if everyone that claims to have been damaged by Battletoads had actually owned that game, it would be a modern franchise with millions and millions of copies sold.

/most NES owners never actually played Battletoads. Its infamy is almost soley based on internet Youtube videos and ROM playthrus.

I played it, countless hours. But I didn't buy it. See, back then we could borrow our friends' games too...

eh. Consoles evolve, then stop for several years till the next iteration is created. PC's continually get faster / more betterer.... so if consoles ever have a technical advantage, it's extremely short lived. If anything is holding PC gaming back, it's the fact that most game development happens for consoles first, and ports over, rather than the other way around.

And FTA, while independent games are a great fit for the PC community, taking advantage of graphics etc, still takes a lot of work, which is part of the reason AAA title game development is so costly these days.

I think both Sony and MS missed the boat with this latest round... and should have been forward thinking enough to develop with the idea that 4k tv's will likely drop in price and become a reality in a good number of households in the next 5-7 years. How are these new consoles going to do running @ that sort of resolution?

rufus-t-firefly:You mean launch titles aren't as 'good' as titles from a few years later? They tend to not push the limits of the system, while the later ones get all they can out of the console's hardware?

GET OUT.

"The Last of Us" is a perfect example of that. Game looks amazing for a PS3 title and I'm sure GTAV will look good as well.

It hasn't changed much. Prettier pictures, but that's about it; nothing that matters. The PS4 is still nothing more than an upgraded PS1, and the XBone is still nothing more than an upgraded XBox; neither company has brought anything new to the table since their very first offerings.

Every console since NES has been exactly the same.

Nintendo's really the only one that has ever had significant differences across generations, and even they haven't managed that most of the time.

Meh. I admit that I'm getting a little schadenfreude from this, seeing Sony and Microsoft fanbois being targeted by the same lies they spread about the Wii a few years ago. But really, it's no truer for them than it was for the Wii.

Generations are about time of release, full stop. Nothing else has any real meaning.

Cytokine Storm:IT COSTS $4000 TO BUILD A GAMING PC YOU IGNORANT RUBES. Then you are literally chained to a desk, there is NO WAY to plug it into a larger display and even if there was some crazy magic that let you, trying to use a mouse and keyboard on a couch is impossible, they just won't work that far away from the computer desk. Technology just hasn't solved these problems yet.

IT COSTS $4000 TO BUILD A GAMING PC YOU IGNORANT RUBES. Then you are literally chained to a desk, there is NO WAY to plug it into a larger display and even if there was some crazy magic that let you, trying to use a mouse and keyboard on a couch is impossible, they just won't work that far away from the computer desk. Technology just hasn't solved these problems yet.

No, don't you see, you fool! If only you had built your very own gaming rig! You could have only spent a few hundred dollars each month to upgrade your memory, video cards, samoflanges, vibrating computer desk chairs, and more! You could have been a gaming god! How DARE you be happy sitting in your couch and play on a console attached to your 60" LCD, and then watch a movie with your loved ones! You need to be sitting in front of your super high definition 24" monitor with your surround sound headphones! You technophobe!