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Ultimatum: House Of M Meets World's End?

In November, Marvel promises to change the face of the Ultimate Marvel-verse forever when Jeph Loeb (currently infamous writer of Hulk and Ultimates 3) teams up with David Finch to produce Ultimatum. While most event mini-series tend to always promise the 'change the face' bit, the fact that Ultimate Spider-Man's the only guaranteed surviving title out of the current Ultimate line tends to give Ultimatum's broom-sweeping status more credence. Here's what we know so far (spoiler-boxed just in case)...

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- Magneto's playing the bad-guy for the most part, ticked off after events in Ultimates 3 forced him to cross a name or two off his family's Christmas Card list.
- The villain behind the villain however seems to be Doctor Doom (or at least another Doombot). Considering U-Doom's made completely of metal (either way), winding up Magneto and sending him against the world's heroes in a hopefully take-each-other-out battle works well for him.
- While the Ultimate X-Men and Ultimate Fantastic Four titles are closing their doors, they'll be going out in connected stories to Ultimatum staring Rogue and The Thing respectively. Both teams seem to be too busy to show up completely as recent events involving drugs made out of the first mutant, the appearance of Agatha Harkness and Hydra, and a look at both teams' future selves have left them somewhat fractured.
- Artist David Finch really needs a more flattering picture for his Wikipedia entry.

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Damn, that IS a badass poster. As for that David Finch picture I did meet him at a Con and not only does he still look like that he's covered in ink. Very cool guy though, he was doing full commitions(sp?) and I should have got one.

“Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat." - Stannis Baratheon

(a) I hate seeing "Super-jacked Magneto". The man should look strong, but he shouldn't be more muscular than someone like Cyclops.
(b) I hate the 616 stone Mjolnir....why they introduced that in Ultimates 3 I'll never know. After loving Ultimates 1 and 2, it is so disappointing for 3 to be such a nightmarish mistake.
(c) U.Doom...ugh.

Isn't Ultimatum and its assorted tie-ins being written entirely by Jeph Loeb and whatever chucklefucks he managed to wrangle away from shitting out Heroes scripts?

I was under the impression that Bendis' interaction with the project amounted to him telling Loeb not to fuck up Ultimate Spider-Man too badly, and I figured Millar's too busy with his own little mini-event and all his Hollywood stuff to worry about Loeb fucking up the Ultimate line.

My money is on Ultimate Xmen if it is just one. Boy did that become a clusterfuck after Kirkman came aboard. Ultimate FF isn't really in dire need of a reboot like Ultimate Xmen is, so I wouldn't mind it coming out unscathed. I mean, Ultimates could use a reboot back to right after Ultimates 2, but since its Loeb writing, that isn't going to happen.

My money is on Ultimate Xmen if it is just one. Boy did that become a clusterfuck after Kirkman came aboard. Ultimate FF isn't really in dire need of a reboot like Ultimate Xmen is, so I wouldn't mind it coming out unscathed. I mean, Ultimates could use a reboot back to right after Ultimates 2, but since its Loeb writing, that isn't going to happen.

Fucking hell. Ultimate FF sucks so bad right now. Horrid art, silly fucking ideas (a monster who is 7 people and also a psychiatrist who also needs super-fire to kick-start eggs that jesus fuck it's a stupid monster). But I want them to get a new writer/artist, not kill it. I loved the initial run.

My money is on Ultimate Xmen if it is just one. Boy did that become a clusterfuck after Kirkman came aboard. Ultimate FF isn't really in dire need of a reboot like Ultimate Xmen is, so I wouldn't mind it coming out unscathed. I mean, Ultimates could use a reboot back to right after Ultimates 2, but since its Loeb writing, that isn't going to happen.

Ultimate X-Men and Ultimate FF are both ending

Does that mean they are being "reset"? Or are they just ending the series of both?

Fucking hell. Ultimate FF sucks so bad right now. Horrid art, silly fucking ideas (a monster who is 7 people and also a psychiatrist who also needs super-fire to kick-start eggs that jesus fuck it's a stupid monster). But I want them to get a new writer/artist, not kill it. I loved the initial run.

It really is a shame because I thought that UFF used to be one of the better books Marvel was putting out.

I'm having a hard time believing that they're going to pair the Ultimate universe down to just 1 book though.

Having just recently read the "Red Hulk beats Thor with his own hammer book" (I know I'm behind the curve) I will definately not be touching anything written by Loeb with... well let's just say that should a pole exist large enough that even his ridiculous abortion of a Hulk character couldn't lift it, it STILL wouldn't be long enough.

Having just recently read the "Red Hulk beats Thor with his own hammer book" (I know I'm behind the curve) I will definately not be touching anything written by Loeb with... well let's just say that should a pole exist large enough that even his ridiculous abortion of a Hulk character couldn't lift it, it STILL wouldn't be long enough.

Fucking hell. Ultimate FF sucks so bad right now. Horrid art, silly fucking ideas (a monster who is 7 people and also a psychiatrist who also needs super-fire to kick-start eggs that jesus fuck it's a stupid monster). But I want them to get a new writer/artist, not kill it. I loved the initial run.

It really is a shame because I thought that UFF used to be one of the better books Marvel was putting out.

I'm having a hard time believing that they're going to pair the Ultimate universe down to just 1 book though.

Miller is talking about something big that he's writing for twelve issues. I remember someone say Ultimate Avengers, but I'm not sure.

EDIT: Personally I would prefer if the handle was longer so Thor could get a decent 2 handed grip on that bad boy. I love the long handled 2 handed hammer look. It's just more badass.

actually, there's a reason that it's not a two-handed hammer-

According to Norse myth, Loki the trickster cuts off the hair of the goddess Sif as part of a cruel jest. Threatened with grave physical harm by Thor, Loki escapes his fate by promising to fetch replacement hair from the dwarf smiths. Loki commissions the hair from the sons of Ivaldi and the obliging dwarves also make a magic ship and spear as gifts for the gods. Loki is convinced that no one can match their workmanship, and challenges a dwarf named Eitri to make finer treasures. Eitri first makes a golden ring; then a golden boar and finally begins work on a hammer. Loki begins to panic at the sight of the treasures, and fearful that he would lose the wager, transforms himself into a mayfly and stings Eitri's assistant on the brow as he is working the bellows for the forge. The assistant stops for a moment to wipe away the blood, and the bellows fall flat - the end result being that the hammer is shorter in the handle than Eitri had originally intended.

Despite this, the Norse gods consider Eitri to have forged the greater treasures, and in retaliation the sons of Ivaldi sew Loki's lips shut. Odin uses the hammer - called Mjolnir by Eitri - and eventually passes the hammer to his son Thor, who must first prove he is worthy to wield the weapon.

basically, as with most things that go wrong in asgard, it happened because loki's a dick.

Fucking hell. Ultimate FF sucks so bad right now. Horrid art, silly fucking ideas (a monster who is 7 people and also a psychiatrist who also needs super-fire to kick-start eggs that jesus fuck it's a stupid monster). But I want them to get a new writer/artist, not kill it. I loved the initial run.

It really is a shame because I thought that UFF used to be one of the better books Marvel was putting out.

I'm having a hard time believing that they're going to pair the Ultimate universe down to just 1 book though.

Ultimates 4 is still coming out, so we have that to look forward too :|

Speaking of missing the point of the Ultimate Universe, I'm really pissed Ultimate Thor slid back into mainstream Thor. He lost his awesome axe-hammer-thing (for seemingly no reason at all) and started talking with thees and thays again. Mainstream Thor doesn't even talk that way anymore!