Jodi Arias Murder Trial – Day Thirty-Four

What a banner day yesterday! Martinez really showed his stuff and hit it out of the park! The schlock doc got what he deserved. Can’t believe the defense actually thought the jury would by his phony baloney testimony!

Court begins at 10:32 with the ever-annoying sidebar.

Jury brought in at 10:37.

Samuels on the stand.

In evaluating the defendant you conducted clinical interviews? Yes.

You addressed whether she had anal intercourse with Mr. Alexander? Yes.

She said he was the only one she had anal sex with? Yes.

She had oral sex with several people. So she couldn’t have been uncomfortable having it with Mr. Alexander because it wasn’t the first time.

She told you that Travis’ computer had many photographs of women’s breast? Yes.

Would it surprise you that no pictures were found and that she lied to you?

Objection sidebar…

I saw it as irrelevant to the case.

There is an inconsistency, then it doesn’t matter to you that there were inconsistencies? They weren’t significant.

Samuels says the picture of breasts was the only inconsistency.

What about the anal sex with other men? She eventually told me, but I had already written my report.

You wrote an addendum to your report? Yes about new material.

Well the anal sex came up and it was new information, yet you chose not to write an addendum? I was only writing the information pertinent to the addendum.

You chose not to address the inconsistencies in any written form? Yes.

Boy, Martinez has both guns blazing today! He’s caught Samuels on so much crap! Heck, a two-year old could have done a better eval!

Willmott asks to approach and the jury is sent out and court recesses for 5-minutes.

Argument is still going on at the bench.

Appears Willmott is huddled with Samuels, lol!

Jury back at 11:10.

You wrote a report about the shower and taking of photos? Yes.

She told you it was Mr. Alexander that asked her to take the pics?

Did you see the interview with Det. Flores? Yes. I believe the

interview referred to a different date of photographs.

One of the things she told you he was coming after her and he was grabbing her sweater as she ran for the gun? May I see it in the context of my report?

No I will just play it

Martinez waits to play the tape while Willmott appears to be reviewing the transcript of it.

Tape being played. It’s Samuels’ interview with Martinez.

You said he grabbed her sweater and that’s when she remembered the gun? Yes.

They were in the closet when he grabbed her sweater? That’s what I recall what I have in my notes.

Another sidebar…

You have your notes in front of you? What do your notes say? Nothing in the notes say sweater.

He grabbed her? Right.

When he grabbed her clothing she remembered the gun? That’s what she told me.

Did you indicate she shot him in the closet once? Yes.

She was in or around the closet? Yes.

The PDS you administered to the defendant was faxed Jan 2010? I have numerous copies?

You don’t keep the actual questions along with the answers in the file? No.

This is the test he administered while she was putting the ninja story out there…he never administered a new test when she finally admitted killing Travis!

And another sidebar…

Martinez moves on to another test that can be used with several subsets of people. MCMI3…Jodi measured PTSD under the scoring is below the limit. There is no clinical disorder!

Samuels is dancing all around and getting testy and snarky! Juan has really pushed his buttons!

LOL, the test is used for psychiatric patients not the general public!!! The test is not allowed to be used in court cases.

Willmott is all but jumping out of her skin!

Judge calls lunch recess.

Court resumes at 1:37 this is just so wrong!

Samuels compared Jodi to mental patients, not against the general population,

Wouldn’t it be better to compare her to the general population? No.

Jodi’s memory loss due to amnesia indicates she would not form memories.

Samuels is tripping up all over the place about having amnesia and what a person with amnesia could or could not have a memory.

You said Jodi never said anything negative about Mr. Alexander in her journals? Yes.

That was 2007? Yes.

Your saying Jodi was not assertive? Yes.

2009 and 2010 when she wrote she would not stand for Travis speaking badly about friends, she was not assertive? Yes.

Juan is like a whirling dervish today!

You based your assessment only on what she told you? Yes.

You didn’t interview Daniel Freeman or her family or friends? No.

Juan asks if Jodi told him about Travis masturbating to photographs.

Willmott and Juan get into it and the Judge calls them forward.

What time did she tell you the incident took place? Sometime in 2008.

What time of day? I don’t know without my notes.

Samuels looks at his notes and can’t locate it.

Juan tells him to pull out his other notes and look.

Jeezy Creezy…Willmott asks to approach again!

Samuels flipping pages like crazy

He some notes, no date.

Martinez tells him to look further to find his other notes!

He found another reference that gets marked as an exhibit, again no date.

OMG, he just admitted the DSM he used is from 2000! There is a newer version, but he claims they are virtually identical!

Willmott is losing it and tries to offer a speaking objection…Juan protests and sidebar is called.

Going over the diagnosis, Samuels claims there was a mistake that was corrected in December 2012!!!! However, he did NOT file an amended report!

You didn’t tell the prosecution?

That makes two times he didn’t file addendums! Yikes!

Guess what, sidebar!!!

Judge tells jury the last question was withdrawn.

Well, that bell was rung, lol!

Willmott is frantic stuff not get out there. This hack and the defense team are truly pathetic!

Willmott redirect…

Samuels claims he omitted typing some of the numbers for diagnosis. He reviewed the files and added them. C needs 3 criteria and now he lists 5. D needs 2 he only listed 1, now he has 3!

Those weren’t typos; he just larded it up to make it fit the diagnosis. His original report didn’t meet PTSD diagnosis.

Man, this is so bogus!!!OMG! He couldn’t find it for Juan, but he suddenly has the ‘supposed’ pedophilia date.

Willmott ain’t getting the rehab of the witness done!

Afternoon recess called.

Stephens’ patience has been pushed to the brink today!

Samuels claims he gave the MCMI eval probably over 2000 times in his career.

Boy, did Willmott and Samuels rehearse this on break!

Willmott and Samuels are just doing,,,blah, blah, blah….don’t care how long they beat this dead horse, Jodi does NOT have PTSD or anxiety!

Pretty much, Willmott is doing direct all over again and trying to clean up the mess Samuels created!

Samuels claims sending the book to Jodi was not an ethical issue. Claims he is compassionate and he believed her self-esteem so low and the book would help. He’s a caring professional!

This guy is so full of shite! He is lost back in the ‘70’s and has no clue as to modern psychology.

Claims he didn’t have to interview family or friends because he reviewed reports by others!

These do-overs allowed in AZ are a waste of time and taxpayers money!

Thinking by now, the entire jury must be suicidal!

Drugs, alcohol, sex and rock-an-roll at my house tonight!

He’s saying he figured out the almost “real” story by synthesizing all her stories! WTF?

This is piss-poor lawyering and doctoring!

I can’t even type this because it’s so full of lies!

Jodi had her new story down pat in 2010 and has propagated it for years!

At $250 a day at taxpayers dollars this guy found a gravy train he’s gonna be kicked off of really, really soon!

Lisa Court dark Thursday?! R u kidding me? So now tomorrow will probably be taken up by jurors’ questions and cross and redirect of his answers. Oh boy. We won’t even get to the domestic violence expert till next week!

That was what the defense had planned all along..’supposed’ family funeral tomorrow for one of the defense…I’d ask for note, but hey, it’s me, lol!

Lisa M

03/19/2013 at 8:10 pm

Donchais: “This is the test he administered while she was putting the ninja story out there…he never administered a new test when she finally admitted killing Travis!”
To me this is the most egregious error he made. How can he be credible if the only test he administered to her is full of lies! The face that he didn’t administer another test post 2010 is unbelievable!!!

Lisa M

03/19/2013 at 8:11 pm

“Thinking by now, the entire jury must be suicidal!”
Lol! Hope not but they are going to need some PTSD therapy themselves after this is over!

Donchais – Thanks for therecap and the humour!! ” Thinking by now, the entire jury must be suicidal!” I think you are right. LOL ! And by the way, if Wilmott can ask the judge to tell JM to quit “yelling at the witness” (yesterday) then can JM ask the judge to tell Willmott to quit whining, and Nurmi to quit moving and speaking like a 3 toed sloth? Those two are painful to watch. And Juan Martinez is amazing. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a person more driven and focussed. More power to him!

Dramsop

03/19/2013 at 8:25 pm

* the recap

Nancy Pennington

03/19/2013 at 8:28 pm

donchais: beg your pardon dahlink but the Dr. Wackadoo-doo makes $250.00 an hour not a day! That will really make you need a barf bag!!!!!

This comes from the hubby: In our household we feel that WILNOT did not rehab her WITLESS, but only reinforced JM’s cross. Gawd, talk about leading the witness, She continued to highlight Dr. Wackadoo-doo’s errors while he threw himself under JA’s bus. Poor slob just flushed any future work down the toilet. None of his testiphony justifies self-defense. It is just a reiteration of JA’s lies.

Also, looks like JA is resolved to the fact that she is so OVER.

About Beth Karas: Could we start a petition for her to keep working for HLN? I just love her and agree with the other comments about how great she is. Hopefully they will get rid of Jean Casarez as she seems to change her opinion depending on what show she is on. Beth is always straight forward and tries very hard to be impartial. HLN could also lose Nancy Grace(“JUST IN ..BREAKING NEWS!”) since she has gotten way too wierd for me. IMVHO .
(IMVHO=in my very humble opinion)

ritanita

03/19/2013 at 8:32 pm

Donchais, make that $250 an HOUR! He’s so not worth it. At those rates, he should be able to afford a separate test booklet and answer sheet for each patient. He can afford to have them electronically scored as well. It would mean his arithmetic errors wouldn’t happen. Writing in pencil for these endeavors is not very professional at all!

Add into that, he believes he can claim Jodi was a pacific person who is not assertive simply by reading her diaries! In addition, he spoke to no one who knew her well to determine what sort of personality she had. I’m sure her mother, aunt, and friends of hers would have pointed out that Ms. Jodi was indeed an assertive person.

How else do you describe a high school junior who doesn’t like the rules at home and goes off to live in a “hovel” with her Vampire boyfriend?

I could go on, but you get the idea!

I can only think of one other psychologist who matched him in uselessness. His name is Juan Sosa. He testified for the prosecution in the Cody Posey trial in New Mexico a few years ago. Sara Grisham, the prosecutor wanted Sosa to testify that Cody, then 16, was a psychopath. Sosa answered one question by answering that he could tell if an infant was a psychopath by the way he cried! Fact is, professional rules state that no one under 18 can be diagnosed as such.

Tracey A

03/19/2013 at 8:37 pm

Bravo Donchais! Take a bow in front of us, please! Your snarkiness, wit, and humor is PERFECT! Just what we all were thinking! You are brilliant! Thank you for your time and patience! You ROCK!

donchais: beg your pardon dahlink but the Dr. Wackadoo-doo makes $250.00 an hour not a day! That will really make you need a barf bag!!!!!

This comes from the hubby: In our household we feel that WILNOT did not rehab her WITLESS, but only reinforced JM’s cross. Gawd, talk about leading the witness, She continued to highlight Dr. Wackadoo-doo’s errors while he threw himself under JA’s bus. Poor slob just flushed any future work down the toilet. None of his testiphony justifies self-defense. It is just a reiteration of JA’s lies.

Also, looks like JA is resolved to the fact that she is so OVER.

About Beth Karas: Could we start a petition for her to keep working for HLN? I just love her and agree with the other comments about how great she is. Hopefully they will get rid of Jean Casarez as she seems to change her opinion depending on what show she is on. Beth is always straight forward and tries very hard to be impartial. HLN could also lose Nancy Grace(“JUST IN ..BREAKING NEWS!”) since she has gotten way too wierd for me. IMVHO .
(IMVHO=in my very humble opinion)

There is a Beth Karas site, will look it up, thanks!

Chrissie A

03/19/2013 at 8:50 pm

Thanks so much Donchais – Fabulous recap as usual – you filled in the gaps while I was fading during WiilNots cross 🙂 I am so flabbergasted with the suspicious activity JA is doing in the courtroom, (and getting away with it) regarding passing notes back and forth, I’m going to be pouring over the youtube footage tonight to see if I can catch her at it 🙂
Thanks again you are the best!!!!

Tracey A

03/19/2013 at 8:51 pm

Nancy Pennington :
donchais: beg your pardon dahlink but the Dr. Wackadoo-doo makes $250.00 an hour not a day! That will really make you need a barf bag!!!!!
This comes from the hubby: In our household we feel that WILNOT did not rehab her WITLESS, but only reinforced JM’s cross. Gawd, talk about leading the witness, She continued to highlight Dr. Wackadoo-doo’s errors while he threw himself under JA’s bus. Poor slob just flushed any future work down the toilet. None of his testiphony justifies self-defense. It is just a reiteration of JA’s lies.
Also, looks like JA is resolved to the fact that she is so OVER.
About Beth Karas: Could we start a petition for her to keep working for HLN? I just love her and agree with the other comments about how great she is. Hopefully they will get rid of Jean Casarez as she seems to change her opinion depending on what show she is on. Beth is always straight forward and tries very hard to be impartial. HLN could also lose Nancy Grace(“JUST IN ..BREAKING NEWS!”) since she has gotten way too wierd for me. IMVHO .
(IMVHO=in my very humble opinion)

Great Job Nancy Pennington! My thoughts exactly. I like Jean Casarez, but I would give her up for Beth Karas in heartbeat!!!! And when Nancy Grace started wearing the mimi-barrette…Jean Casarez made a comment when JA showed up wearing one as well, that “They are trying to make her look younger”, I thought the very same thing about NG!!! NG always creeps me out….with her “Good night friends”. Oh, someone pass me a barf bag please!!!!!!!!!!

The shower photos could be clues as to the sequence of wounds or at least intended targeted areas. I think they show premeditation but it’s only circumstantial. I have yet to find good clear pics but I don’t think it is a coincidence that the autopsy sketches of his wounds seem to marry up with the poses she had him perform in the shower.

First – hands crossed and held to middle of the chest eerily indicative of autopsy sketch of position of heart wound.

The back posses. He exposes his back to the full view of the camera – eerily similar to position of grouping of wounds to his back

Head photo – deep stab wounds to his head as indicated in autopsy photo

The shots when he is under the shower seem to be more about his neck than his head he seems to be stretching his neck to accentuate it – representative of slash wound to neck.

Then the final face photo – she shot him in the face at some point when he was very near death or already dead.

Just finished the trial on HLN, the bailiff is not sitting in the chair isn’ t that where they are to be next to the defendant?

Tracey A

03/19/2013 at 9:07 pm

OMG! I’m sick about hearing the 12 days er, 24 hrs or so, Dr. Fog spent with JA! She spent more time on the stand testifying than he did interviewing her! Give me a break, er, just pass me another barf bag!

Tracey A

03/19/2013 at 9:08 pm

And to whomever gave Wilmott the name of WillNot…kudos to you! LMAO!! She’s just Miss Perky to me (and not in a good way)!

Donchais- would my broom get me to your place for the party? Mind you I cannot stay up to late and I am in CA. JUST JOSHING!!! Broom needs a tune up. 😉

Nancy Pennington

03/19/2013 at 9:10 pm

Syntara: damn iPhone I meant “as obsessed AS the rest of us” . It sounded as if I was calling you a stalker. Lol sorry .

Tracey A

03/19/2013 at 9:10 pm

Vickee Great observation! Where is the bailiff to find JA passing out notes!!!

Tracey A

03/19/2013 at 9:13 pm

LOL Vickee . I’m in So Calif. You can ride on my broom if you like!! I have an SUVrroommm! Just saying! 😉

Chrissie A

03/19/2013 at 9:14 pm

Tracey A : Vickee Great observation! Where is the bailiff to find JA passing out notes!!!

@wildabouttrial tweeted today that the bailiff was snoozing – JA does not appear to have any supervision in the courtroom at all!

Chrissie A

03/19/2013 at 9:19 pm

Vickee :
Just finished the trial on HLN, the bailiff is not sitting in the chair isn’ t that where they are to be next to the defendant?

In other trials I’ve watched there is usually an officer/sheriff escorting and sitting by the defendant at all times. I believe the Bailiff is there to keep order with the spectators – there again this is AZ – please correct me if I am wrong

Tracey A- I love to travel. I am in Central CA. just a quick hop, skip & jump on a broom. 😉

Thanks much

Observer

03/19/2013 at 9:30 pm

I love Beth Karas. With her impressive credentials I’m sure she’ll get a job on another network when she leaves Tru TV’s “In Session” after the Jodi Arias trial.

Beth Karas has been a correspondent for IN SESSION since 1994. She reports from courthouses around the country and has covered the trials of such high-profile defendants as record producer Phil Spector, the German national who assumed the name of Clark Rockefeller, former “Baretta” star Robert Blake, Kobe Bryant, Martha Stewart and Scott Peterson.

Karas has also covered the California murder trial of Cynthia Sommer, convicted of and then cleared in the poisoning death her husband, Todd; the 2008 trial of Neil Entwistle, accused of murdering his wife and infant daughter in a Boston suburb; the Amadou Diallo trial, in which four NYPD officers were charged with shooting an unarmed man; and Connecticut v. Michael Skakel, the Kennedy nephew convicted of killing his neighbor, Martha Moxley.

In addition to reporting in the field, Karas draws on her trial experience to offer commentary on other cases the network covers. She also contributes to CNN.com, writing for the IN SESSION blog and the Justice page.

Karas has appeared as a legal expert on virtually every cable and network news program, including “Nightline,” “Dateline,” “The Today Show,” “Good Morning America,” “The Early Show,” “Larry King Live,” “Anderson Cooper 360,” “On the Record with Greta van Susteren” and “The O’Reilly Factor.”

Prior to joining IN SESSION, Karas was an assistant district attorney in New York City. During her eight years as a prosecutor, she handled cases ranging from robbery and rape to complex racketeering and political corruption schemes, at trial and in the grand jury. She is a graduate of Mount Holyoke College and Fordham Law School.

Observer

03/19/2013 at 9:49 pm

I love this analysis by Kristin Randle of Jodi’s answer to a juror question on why she bought a 9mm gun after shooting Travis. I wish the jury had asked her if she didn’t know how to use a gun why would she buy a 9mm.

Observer Great post on Beth Karas. I knew she had great credentials, just didn’t know how great! Thanks for the back story. And I agree, someone will pick this gem of an educated pundit up without a doubt. But your info here was stellar! TY!

LadyInRed

03/19/2013 at 9:51 pm

Tracey A :
Bravo Donchais! Take a bow in front of us, please! Your snarkiness, wit, and humor is PERFECT! Just what we all were thinking! You are brilliant! Thank you for your time and patience! You ROCK!

Observer -thanks for the bio of Beth Karas. You are very knowledgable poster. She has had quite an illustrious career. I so enjoy listening to her. You know what you are getting when she speaks.

Schaeffer

03/19/2013 at 10:10 pm

I like Beth Karas very much, but I think leaving HLN or any of its affiliates would be a good move. Their coverage of this trial, especially since InSession went to its “All Idiots All The Time” programming, is beyond the pale. HLN taking an additional 2 1/2 hours to air a trial with so little actual testimony in a day is inexcusable; in addition to the inordinate number of commercials, they waste time promoting their concept of “non-stop” coverage and promoting their prime time lineup. Going to a screen crawl announcement of this information would shave a minimum of 30 minutes a day from their coverage.

Hopefully, a legitimate court coverage channel will soon appear, and Beth and the other former InSession correspondents will be able to get to get their fair share of screen time to share their valuable insight and impressions; nothing beats a first person point of view. I only watch the Arias trial on-line, and since HLN made the inexcusable move of giving Jose Baez screen time, they have been permanently scratched from my TV viewership.

Hope you feel better tomorrow! ‘m finding out what I missed. Which would be everything! Enjoying family fine, thanks! I haven’t received new e-mail posts on my phone today at all! Even at work on my computer, it kept freezing and was “not responding” getting to the site. Frustrating!! Anyway, thought I’d check in. xoxo to my peeps!!!

Did you watch the medical examiners testimony and see the last picture of Travis Alexander alive sitting in the shower, the picture of Travis lying on the floor covered in blood taken 60 seconds later with Jodi standing over him and the last picture taken 60 more seconds after that of Travis with his throat cut as Jodi dragged him back to the bathroom? Did you also see the pictures of the sink splattered with blood and the bullet casing lying on top of blood near the sink? They tell the story of the sequence of wounds.

Dr. Kevin Horn, medical examiner, testified that the knife wound to the heart likely came first and the knife nicked his lungs and he was coughing up blood and either crawled or staggered to the bathroom sink to spit up blood. Travis had defensive wounds on both hands where it looked like he tried to grab the knife and other wounds in the chest and belly. I believe she struck him through the heart first as he sat in the shower looking into her camera lens and then kept stabbing him in the chest, belly and hands as he tried to grab the knife and then he collapsed on his hands and knees or bent over staggered to the sink to spit up blood.

She followed him stabbing him in the back between the shoulder blades, head and neck as he made his way to the sink and bent over the sink to spit up blood. He was losing blood and consciousness as he continued up the hallway where she kept stabbing him until he slid down the wall and collapsed at the end of the hallway going to the bedroom and then she slit his throat and he bled out on the bedroom rug. She then flooded the bathroom floor so it would be easier to drag him back to the bathroom and shot him in the head in front of the sink. Dr. Horn testified that there was no stipling on his skin so he was not shot at close range. He also testified there was also no bleeding of the brain so he was likely dead when he was shot as Jodi stood over him. The trajectory of the bullet shows she was standing over him when she shot him.

Commerce1

03/19/2013 at 11:11 pm

Tracey A :And to whomever gave Wilmott the name of WillNot…kudos to you! LMAO!! She’s just Miss Perky to me (and not in a good way)!

I’m going with “Willcrock” for her name. As in Will-Try-to-Push-Any-Crock-of-Sh*t-Possible to win this case. Sorry, Willcrock, you will fail……Juan is Superman.

Donchais, I am a relative newcomer to your wonderful site. I would like to engage in discussing some questions or observations which have perplexed me over the course of the trial, but I don’t have the stomach to go back through all the bullshit Jodi has spewed and tie it to a specific day. I also see many of these days are closed to discussion, because you obviously had to draw the line somewhere.

Would you consider opening a page which is not specific to a certain day of the trial where we could all bring up the questions or observations which are still bothering us? Perhaps we could do this during deliberations when we will all be having withdrawals symptoms and need a place to vent or get a fix.

Would any of my fellow posters be interested in such a page?

Thanks for this great site, and all the work you do,

NancyB

03/19/2013 at 11:27 pm

Donchais – You do the BEST recaps of all time! You don’t miss a thing and I (we) adore the well deserved snark. 🙂 One correction – State of Az is paying schlock doc (I love that moniker) $250 an hour not a day!

His entire report should be invalidated and his testimony should be struck from the trial records and transcripts. He is a total embarrassment to all competent psychologists. It’s become blatantly clear that he is essentially paid to say whatever he’s needed to say. To me, that equals corruption of the legal system and I find it very disturbing.

Douglme

03/19/2013 at 11:30 pm

Chrissie A :
Thanks so much Donchais – Fabulous recap as usual – you filled in the gaps while I was fading during WiilNots cross I am so flabbergasted with the suspicious activity JA is doing in the courtroom, (and getting away with it) regarding passing notes back and forth, I’m going to be pouring over the youtube footage tonight to see if I can catch her at it
Thanks again you are the best!!!!

Did you also see on Dr. Drew that she snitched a file folder off the desk and put it under her butt yesterday!!!! What was that all about???

Douglme

03/19/2013 at 11:41 pm

Schaeffer :
I like Beth Karas very much, but I think leaving HLN or any of its affiliates would be a good move. Their coverage of this trial, especially since InSession went to its “All Idiots All The Time” programming, is beyond the pale. HLN taking an additional 2 1/2 hours to air a trial with so little actual testimony in a day is inexcusable; in addition to the inordinate number of commercials, they waste time promoting their concept of “non-stop” coverage and promoting their prime time lineup. Going to a screen crawl announcement of this information would shave a minimum of 30 minutes a day from their coverage.
Hopefully, a legitimate court coverage channel will soon appear, and Beth and the other former InSession correspondents will be able to get to get their fair share of screen time to share their valuable insight and impressions; nothing beats a first person point of view. I only watch the Arias trial on-line, and since HLN made the inexcusable move of giving Jose Baez screen time, they have been permanently scratched from my TV viewership.

I watch the trial on my computer at azcentral and there are no commercials only actual court breaks. When I leave work at 4:30 PM they are just finishing up in court and I come home and they are going on until after 6:00 PM on HLN, so many commercials. Makes me crazy!

Chrissie A

03/19/2013 at 11:44 pm

Update from the court:
MC Superior Court ‏
Attorneys in State v #JodiArias now think they may be in court on Thursday. Stay tuned

ter987

03/19/2013 at 11:44 pm

Did anyone catch Dr.D tonight? Tonight he showed a clip of JA looking straight ahead ..and with her right hand… sliding a folder off of the table and putting it under her butt on her chair….unbelievable!!. Donchais–Thanks for all your great work making this site possible

Observer

03/19/2013 at 11:47 pm

Syntara, did you see Jodi’s interrogation with Detective Flores where she tells the Ninja story on March 16, 2008, the day after she was arrested? On March 15, 2008 when she was arrested she claimed she was innocent and not in Mesa when Travis was murdered even though Detective Flores said her hair, bloody palm print and pictures of her posing nude with the date and timestamp found in his camera proved she was there.

Dressed in an orange jumpsuit, the next day Jodi admits Flores she was there when two masked intruders killed Travis and let her go threatening to kill her family if she told anybody. She said there was blood everywhere. She got down on her hands and knees to illustrate Travis was on his hands and knees, said he couldn’t feel his legs and at one point he was just lying there and he was “there but he wasn’t.”

Jodi said she heard a loud bang and was knocked out as she reviewed pictures of Travis. She said the female shot him and later she said the female had the knife and the male had a gun. When she was talking about Travis screaming “not like a girl but like he was in pain” her voice showed emotion but it seemed to be excitement rather than horror. When she talked about the Ninjas her voice changed to a robotic deep tone as she imitated the voices of the Ninjas. She said they said they were there to kill Travis and were surprised she was there and argued over what to do with her.

Jodi changed her story because it is closer to the truth than the BS story she made up to make it look like self defense. The Ninja story shows she went to his house to kill him and that she remembers Travis screaming in pain, crawling on all fours and losing consciousness after she slit his throat.

It would have been better to stick to that story and pay Dr. Quack to diagnose her with multiple personality disorder instead of PTSD.

Did you also see on Dr. Drew that she snitched a file folder off the desk and put it under her butt yesterday!!!! What was that all about???

Hi Douglme – Saw it earlier in the day on Twitter, not sure what she was up to, but it looks sneaky, hopefully we’ll get some news on it soon – if I hear anything more I’ll post it to you, or if you hear something please post 🙂

Schaeffer

03/20/2013 at 12:11 am

Did everyone catch it when Wilmott tried to insinuate the reason investigators never found any porn — kiddie or otherwise — on Travis’s computer was because he had more than one computer? Martinez objected, but the implication was still there. (Sorry, I can’t remember for certain if Martinez’s objection was sustained or overruled, but unfortunately I think it was overruled.) The good news is I don’t think anyone bought it.

My point about the shower shots is she appears to have taken the shots of the areas of his body she targeted. ie Heart, back, skulll, throat and finally the shot to the face. I’m working on a “what happened that day sequence” I’ll post it in maybe that will help you see where I’m going with this. ie like… Im gonna stab you in the hearts – his hands clasped to his heart area… and in the back… hence the back pics… in the head.. thus the head picks…. then slit your neck… thus the neck shots… then Im gonna blast your face off… thus the face shot.

Jodi changed her story because it is closer to the truth than the BS story she made up to make it look like self defense. The Ninja story shows she went to his house to kill him and that she remembers Travis screaming in pain, crawling on all fours and losing consciousness after she slit his throat.
It would have been better to stick to that story and pay Dr. Quack to diagnose her with multiple personality disorder instead of PTSD.

HaHaHa,, yeh then jodi could be sitting there giving us the Linda Blair Jodi instead of this librarian Jodi. LOL! Good one! That would have been fun to see!

(This is more or less follow on from the 6 part series of answers to jad – kind of what comes out of it all)

Ok to sum up the story so far and the likely scenario of those horrible events on 4 June 2008.

Jodi enters Travis’ house likely uninvited because she wanted no trace of her being there. She’s already very very angry brooding about all he has done to her and his imminent trip to Cancun. She can’t live with him going – it would drive her insane.

A discussion ensues about the Cancun visit in which she pleads with Travis to either cancel the trip or take her with him (she may have even had an air ticket already). Something like “I’ve already got the ticket” to further guilt him into acquiescing. He refuses and as gently as possible explains to her something like “No Jodi it’s over between us”

She begins to feel the anger turn to rage but she controls it, she’s not ready to let it out yet.

She feigns acceptance and pleads for one last romp in the hay so to speak. He reluctantly agrees – he desperately wants her gone.

She gets him to pose for those photos on the bed once again he reluctantly obliges hoping to get her out of the house, anything to get rid of her.

After some unhappy snaps of him she sets up the camera to time lapse the most revealing ones of herself. Isn’t this great Travis?

Travis is trying hard to muster even fake enthusiasm.

Inwardly she senses this, outwardly she does nothing to overtly portray the seething vortex of rage inside her. She still controls it. She pushes it deeper. Still not ready to let it out.

They have sex, but doubtful he was really into it this time which made her lava of rage begin to rise from the depths. Everything he was did fed her ever growing inner demon.

After sex (probably not long) she showers, dresses and feigns her farewell.

After a certain period of time Travis feels secure enough to shower.

Either from a hiding spot inside the house or from outside she removes her shoes and pads through the house re-entering the bedroom/bathroom areas in socks.

She startles him in the shower and tries to lull him into a false sense of security by explaining she is just back to take some photos of him as an idea just hit her about the water effect – a la Calvin Klein photo shoot.

He is highly suspicious but complies, once again in the hope she takes the photos and leaves.

At the moment she has him where she wants him.. i.e. down on the base of the shower. She strikes, dropping the camera contemporaneously (haha) clicking the shutter

He fights back, manages to crawl out of the shower trying desperately to get to safety she keeps striking in a raging frenzy… he’s getting away!! He’s still alive!!

He begs her to finish it.

She slits his throat.

He’s dead she looks around at her handiwork and starts dragging him to the shower. His body spasms. She panics, grabs the gun shooting him in the head. (this part needs to be confirmed with shot angles – it’s the most open to conjecture at this stage but the shot had to be last or close to last to have the case positioning and cleanliness it exhibited.)

The place is a scene out of a horror movie. This was not the plan he was supposed to die in the shower so she could easily wash his body to clean off all forensic evidence.

She looks around furiously, how dare he ruin her plan now she tries to clean it up.

She grabs the camera and deletes the photos maybe as she is walking into the bedroom (not through the bathroom) maybe throws the camera onto the bed and starts stripping off the linen. Somehow the camera gets bundled in (but unlikely if the linen was in the dryer she would have noticed the camera when she got that load out of the washer)

She washes the bed linen as she had intended to get rid of any DNA that might be there from bodily fluids. Washes the towels and neatly positions them or replacements.

This had all been part of her original plan and she’s carrying through with it.

But now what? All this blood she needs to clean it up she hadn’t counted on this. She’s been cleaning while the washing machine has been cycling but it’s making little difference.

She realises the with time restrictions the task is insurmountable, it’s taking too long she has to get to the rendezvous with the new boyfriend she’s already way later than she had hoped.

Maybe now she deletes the photos and throws the camera into the washing machine thinking it will be destroyed, or she had already deleted them and somehow scooped them up with the bed linen. It’s hard to believe she would forget about the camera but she had so many other unforeseen things facing her perhaps just perhaps the camera fell down far enough in the list of priorities she completely forgot about it until it was too late.

For whatever reason something somewhere was looking out for Travis. Without that timeline this would be a whole different ball game.

62 seconds… think about it… 62 seconds that is not long to go from sitting in the shower to being a slaughtered corpse on the bathroom floor.

Horrendous.

She surveys the scene, takes the knife/knives and gun and starts driving to the desert.

It’s way later than she had hoped and she needs to make her calls as soon as she can but she has to be far enough away not to appear that she has been in Mesa.

Observer #52: At this same interview JA tells Flores she knows about The Sopranos, which indicates to me that she was likening the masked assassins to an organized crime entity. In this case I think she is referring to the Mormon church having executed TA in a blood atonement scenario. She went on to say that she was spared because she wasn’t the one who they were after. He’s the temple-worthy Mormon, and by spilling his blood, i.e. cutting his throat, he would atone for the sin of adultery. Call me crazy, but I think that’s what is driving her … religious lunacy. In effect, her second account about TA ‘s killing is that the Mormons did it!

Douglme

03/20/2013 at 12:57 am

Does anyone know if they could trace the bullet casing to the ammunition from the Grandparents house? Thought she might have only shot him once because she forgot to check to see if the gun had bullets and it only had one in it. There is always a little truth to every lie and she did say the Ninja pulled the trigger and it just clicked…what do you think?

Observer

03/20/2013 at 1:40 am

HamSandwich :Observer #52: At this same interview JA tells Flores she knows about The Sopranos, which indicates to me that she was likening the masked assassins to an organized crime entity. In this case I think she is referring to the Mormon church having executed TA in a blood atonement scenario. She went on to say that she was spared because she wasn’t the one who they were after. He’s the temple-worthy Mormon, and by spilling his blood, i.e. cutting his throat, he would atone for the sin of adultery. Call me crazy, but I think that’s what is driving her … religious lunacy. In effect, her second account about TA ‘s killing is that the Mormons did it!

I appreciate your opinion but my husband has been LDS all his life and I joined the church 30 years ago and we had never heard of the blood atonement scenario with Brigham Young. It was made up by anti Mormons. I doubt if Jodi would know about it. She isn’t well read and probably knew more about the Sopranos than Mormonism. I think she is just a psychopathic stalker who was obsessed with possessing Travis and slaughtered him so no other woman could have him. She wanted to stop him from going to Cancun with another woman. I think she used a knife instead of just shooting him with a gun because she was afraid the gun would jam. Travis told a story to friends in front of Jodi about a robber putting a gun to his head and pulling the trigger and the gun jamming.

Anne M. Hughes

03/20/2013 at 1:43 am

Your synopsis is spot on… as usual. I get the same crazies while I’m watching and listening. Ok.. so here is my synopsis: I just got done with today’s stuff. (Thanks Tawnidilly) Why are we listening or allowing the defense to essentially RE-question this “Dr.”? This is not a rebuttal or a cross… I get that she is trying to erase the damage that has been done by JM… but Willmott is crafting a whole different tale in order to put band aids on the boo-boos. I call FOUL!

HamSandwich t’s highly probably the ninja story and subsequent versions have reality woven all the way through them.

The rifling through her purse for instance – that was probably her going through the purse for the gun.

Get help from the neighbour was probably travis as he leaned over the basin.

Finish it – likely travis unable to stand it any longer. (sickening thought)

The sopranos reference could well be related to the blood atonement story.

There’s numerous examples you can pull out.

However its not religious fervour that drove her to this she’s way to narcissistic to do anything in the name of anything but herself. Plus it wouldn’t enrage her enough.

Use the doctrine or incidental beliefs to her advantage – definitely. But to do anything for anyone or anything else. Nah not in a psychopath’s make up. Scorn a psychopath – be very very afraid and scorn her he did.

There is not a shred of altruism in her not on any level or in any context. So doing it for a greater motive.. doesn’t fit with her personality type. To Jodi Arias there is nothing greater than Jodi Arias.

It’s extremely likely the blood atonement is a very important piece of the puzzle – it so perfectly makes sense of the seemingly senseless, that being the throat slitting. However the usage of it was purely symbolic.

Schaeffer

03/20/2013 at 1:44 am

Can someone provide me with the day (I think Monday 3/18) and especially the time for Jodi slipping like a note into the orange folder, maneuvering her jacket from her left arm and draping it over her lap, and possibly placing something in her mouth? If I have the day wrong, please correct me. tx

kristin

03/20/2013 at 1:51 am

Many thank yous again donchais! I too am perplexed as to JAs unusual behavior today. Especially with the folder she slid under her butt! Someone posted a comment about Det Flores tweeting that anyone observing JA passing notes, etc to call him immediately. Was this for realz?! I’m guessing JA still thinks she can come out on top. That sleazy Dr.Wacka doo doo should have his credentials pulled by his governing organization. I’m mean come on! His hourly wage for shit work is unreal. Mmd, feel better:)

Observer I think it’s likely she saw it referenced somewhere. I read an excerpt from her blog and noted the letters sent to Travis’ new girlfriend. They tend to point to her looking for hateful things to say that somehow reflected hell and damnation.

The post about dogma and religion so screamed cut and paste job to me. Heaven knows what she found in her google searches relating to Mormons when she searched for this material. Certainly what she posted didn’t seem to have anything to do with Church of LDS to me.

I do not know very much at all about LDS but I have had LDS friends over the years and I do know enough to know talking about every other faith bar their own is NOT the norm.

Observer

03/20/2013 at 2:00 am

Syntara #55 @ 12:21 am. She told Flores they were duplicating scenes fron a movie in the shower photo shoot. I think the movie was Psycho and Jodi was instructing Travis to duplicate the same poses as Janet Lee before Tony Perkins slashes her to death. There is a site that shows the poses from Psycho are eerily similar to the Travis shower photos before Normon Bates stabs the blonde motel guest to death in the shower.

Sends chillls up and down my spine. I KNOW those poses were not accidental I feel it in my very being.

She meant to kill him in the shower I’m darn sure of that too. Easy cleanup, wash the linen leave no receipts, turn off cell phone. Nobody could have traced her. Didn’t quite go to plan. Travis got out and just wouldn’t die. Oh how I hate to think what he went through. It’s something I choose to block out because it’s horrific in so many ways.

Chrissie A

03/20/2013 at 2:23 am

Syntara :ObserverPsycho are eerily similar to the Travis shower photos

The fact that Travis asked her to “finish it” after she had been savagely butchering him is almost more than I can stand to even think about! It goes well beyond cold blooded murder and straight into EXTREME cruelty….she is pure evil and needs to be made to suffer equally if not more!!! Hoping for the sake of his family and justice for Travis that all of this ends soon and the jury has the good sense to convict her of first degree and give her the maximum sentence.

Observer

03/20/2013 at 3:13 am

Syntara The post about dogma and religion so screamed cut and paste job to me. Certainly what she posted didn’t seem to have anything to do with Church of LDS to me.
I do not know very much at all about LDS but I have had LDS friends over the years and I do know enough to know talking about every other faith bar their own is NOT the norm.

You’re absolutely right. If Jodi was a true Mormon, she would have written about how the gospel of Jesus Christ had changed her life and that she was blessed to have it in her life. I thought she sounded like an atheist, not a Mormon. She also wrote in her journal that she wouldn’t marry Travis because he wasn’t family oriented. He wrote in his blog that he was blessed to have a supportive family. Mormons devote their lives to family and church and all of his friends said he wanted a wife and children. She keeps saying he cheated on her but how could she call it cheating when she herself said they weren’t boyfriend and girlfriend.

Jodi testified she didn’t have a good relationship with her family. She told one guy she met she was dabbling in Mormonism and he asked, “Who is the guy?” Jodi’s blog reaffirmed what I already thought. She was faking being a Mormon because she wanted to prey on Mormon single men because she knew she could give them what the Mormon women were saving for marriage. She was obsessed with Travis but she was also obsessed with sex. Mormon women didn’t trust her around their husbands. One Mormon man was ready to leave his wife and six children after two hours of kinky sex in the back of seat of Jodi’s car. I bet she seduced Dr. Quack and he was smitten with her.

I can tell a Mormon by the way they talk, look and act. Jodi looks, acts and talks like trash. If you listen to Mimi Hall’s testimony, she said she belonged to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Jodi always uses the slang, Mormon. On the stand Jodi always says Mormons do this or believe this. She never says we of the LDS faith believe this or do this. When the jurors asked her if the Mormon Church didn’t encourage members not to lie, she said “Mormons encourage you to put on a squeaky clean image.” A true Mormon would never say that. Martinez objected, saying she was non responsive. And the judge repeated the question and she answered, “yes.”

Oh I so want to see a presentation by Dr Robert Hare, Emeritus Professor of Psychology, University of British Columbia of JA. I so hope one day he gets to evaluate her and present his findings. I’m so darn curious to see a REAL evaluation of her.

I’m youtubing samuels testimony… Sadly It’s no better than the first time

“As Robert Lindner states in his groundbreaking study of psychopathy, Rebel without a Cause (New York: Grune and Straton, 1944): “The psychopath is a rebel, a religious disobeyer of prevailing codes and standards… a rebel without a cause, an agitator without a slogan, a revolutionary without a program; in other words, his rebelliousness is aimed to achieve goals satisfactory to him alone; he is incapable of exertions for the sake of others. All his efforts, under no matter what guise, represent investments designed to satisfy his immediate wishes and desires.”

But even this doesn’t fully capture the outlandishness of the psychopathic mindset. Psychopaths live in an Orwellian doublethink world. They believe the truth of the moment while actively seeking new opportunities. We might as well call it a “psychopath-think,” since such individuals have their own language. It is a language of narcissism; a delusional doublespeak. For example, to a psychopathic seducer, “I love you” means “You give me a rush at this moment.” “You love me” translates as “you forgo your needs to bend to my will.” “Trust me” means “What a sucker!” “You’re the woman of my life,” translates into “You’re one of a long, indefinite sequence of women that’s also simultaneous” (Psychopaths have their own version of math as well).

“Mutual fidelity” means “you need to be faithful to me while I cheat on you.” “Betrayal” means “You dared disapprove of something I did” or “You disobeyed me in some respect.” “Mutual commitment” translates into “You need to revolve everything in your life only around me while I do exactly what I want.” “Honesty” means “My truth,” or “Saying whatever gets me what I want at the moment.” “I miss you” means “I miss the function you played in my life because I’m a little bored right now.” “What my Baby wants, my Baby gets” means “I’ll give you attention, flattery and gifts only until I hook you emotionally and gain your trust. Afterwards, Mazeltov Baby! You’re on your own.” “I cheat because my wife/girlfriend doesn’t satisfy me” means “…and neither will you, in a few months, at most.” “We belong together” means “I own you completely while I remain free.” “If anything happens between us, it won’t be because of me” means “Nothing’s ever my fault. If I do something harmful, it’s because you (and others) weren’t good enough for me.” Unless you learn to decipher the psychopathic code, you’re likely to be “lost in translation.” If I put my mind to it, I could write a whole dictionary of “psychopath-speak” and its translation into regular human language.
Every so-called “truth” psychopaths utter is momentary and contingent upon their immediate gratification. Since their feelings are shallow, so is their truth-value. If you add “for now” to their declarations of love, they may sometimes ring plausible. For instance, during the euphoric seduction phase, psychopaths may believe when they tell a girlfriend that they love her and want to spend the rest of their life with her. But, as my novel, The Seducer, illustrates, their passion isn’t grounded in any empathy, love or commitment.”

Syntara The post about dogma and religion so screamed cut and paste job to me. Certainly what she posted didn’t seem to have anything to do with Church of LDS to me.

You’re absolutely right. If Jodi was a true Mormon. . . If you listen to Mimi Hall’s testimony, she said she belonged to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Jodi always uses the slang, Mormon. On the stand Jodi always says Mormons do this or believe this. She never says we of the LDS faith believe this or do this.

I found it interesting that during her first conversation with Detective Flores, when Jodi was discussing the sexual relationship between herself and Travis, she asked him to “keep that quiet because HE is a Mormon.” She didn’t say “WE are Mormons.”

Laine

03/20/2013 at 6:35 am

You know something just struck me that doesn’t sit right….Travis knew she had been stalking him, slashing his tyres, creeping in the house. He also I believe knew she had taped that phone conversation because I believe she tried to blackmail him with it, hence the text about her being a scociapath and the threats to tell her family, friends etc. So why would he have allowed her to take those pics?? They would just have been further evidence for her to blackmail him??? It just doesn’t make sense!! I absolutely belive Syntara’s account that she held him at gun point while she took them.

Karen, thank you so much! Everything you wrote went through my mind on fast forward during the trial, but I struggled to recall some of it after. Far too much stimuli! I love reading your synopsis it just puts all my questions into perspective and answers them effectively! I wonder if you have ever thought to send the link to JM? Not that he needs help but from a clinical perspective you have much to offer! The maths for example surrounding the TGA he may have missed that. Anyway Thanks again! as always a pleasure!

Laine

03/20/2013 at 7:06 am

Syntara – I can’t even tell you how much I enjoy reading your posts. They are so informative and well researched. I dabbled in Psychology many years ago I did a course at uni for a year. Although most of that year was dedicated to the nature/nurture theories and child psycology I really enjoyed it! Your posts send me back to school researching and reading clinical theories. Thank you for putting some life back into this old girl! (and by old I mean in terms of stale education not necessarily age lol)

Oops! Just realized I’ve been calling Willmott “Willmont” from the start. Should be worse.

Observer – Thanks for the link to Kristina Randall. I truly believe that JA was going on a rampage. She killed once (that we know of?!?!), who’s to say this was not the beginning of a real psycho. That camping trip, gun, knife in suitcase – hmmm . . . the imagination begins to wander. – not in a good way. Just think of what would have happened if one of Travis’ roommates were to have walked in on her in the midst of her slaughtery and clean-up. Makes my stomach churn just thinking about it. Donachais – send over those barf bags!

I did see that slip of the notepad. She keeps her belongings – “mini-pencils,” erasers in a folder, just like a “little school girl.” Where have we heard that? That notepad is her new, scrappy journal. Wait till Bert and Ernie get ahold of the media info catching her in the act. Ohhh boy – not good! Did anyone notice the smirks between Samuels and JA at sidebars? How gutsy for the both of them, knowing the cameras are on them.

Couldn’t believe the scenarios Samuels was saying about the gun and where it went off etc. JW was leading him the whole way. Funny how Martinez was letting her bury him without too many oppositions. He probably knows the jurors will have some interesting questions that he can fire back at him. Can’t wait, hopefully today will be the end of this baffoon.

Another weird thing about the shrink testimony was when he said, “JA remembered being covered in blood.” To my recollection the only blood was on her hands in the desert cleaning up with Costco water, according to her. There were comments about change of clothes, at some point, but not sure as to when and where it actually happened.

Don’t remember who made the remark, way back, about “Cooking Thanksgiving Dinner” or to that effect, at the rate this is going – it’ll be “Christmas Dinner.” Hope not! This court schedule is so laid back with late starts, long lunches, short weeks – Judge Perry to the rescue, pleezzz.

jad

03/20/2013 at 7:17 am

Nienna [at 493 of day thirty-two] – Your discussion with Nancy Pennington was right on the money. Not only is there a very large question about the way Jodi Arias has portrayed her sex life with Travis Alexander, there seems to be a question of whether there ever was such an ongoing sex life, after considering all the facts from the testimony and record evidence in the case. As a matter of fact, it is possible that Mr. Alexander was still a virgin when he died. There is evidence that shows he had experimented with certain styles before he was brutally slain, but not the way that has been imagined. There have been several people who have been mislead about the sex life of Travis Alexander because of the antics of several of her criminal lawyers and the problem within the media where they have gotten lazy and do the “peat and repeat routine”, rather than get the facts and get them straight. It is so heartening to see so many people acting in such a concerned manner to overcome the travesty of this case when they see such a heartless bunch acting in such a blasé fashion in trying to destroy what is left of the good name and reputation of an innocent person, the murder victim, Travis Alexander.

The nature of this case was unknown until this past year, yet within a short while it was clear that sex, itself, had nothing to do with the horror of the crime, other than to satisfy the warped mind of a psychopath. For instance, when a person is a rapist, that person uses sex to his or her advantage. That does not mean that either one enjoyed the act itself. It is a certainty that the unwilling victim would not want to participate and would not get enjoyment in a rape. What is not understood by most people is that a rapist does not rape for the pleasure of what is called sex. There is a person schooled in psychology on board [this blog] now (Syntara). So, all of us can learn more about what Jodi Arias has claimed to be her sexual relationship with Travis Alexander and how it could have played into the crime. There will be a comprehension about the premeditation involved in the heinous slaying of an unsuspecting victim, that will prove the crime was not of passion [as it is known in legal circles]. More so, with everyone adding their thoughts, the truth of the matter will be shown. Part of the truth deals with the exposure of the falsity of all of the claims by Jodi Arias to so many acts of a sexual nature she has been allowed to state had occurred with the deceased, without having to offer any way to corroborate any of these stories. She has offered no one and nothing [such as a hotel room receipt] that could verify her allegations of wild sex and a subsequent brutality that supposedly ended with sado-masochistic bondage prior to her stabbing, slashing, slitting, slicing, and shooting of another human being. This other human being is a man who she said she loved, with whom she had enjoyed a consensual sexual relationship. If a person understands a little about the commission of the act of rape, then these sex acts she lays claim to can be understood.

All of us have to look at those allegations of a sexual nature with an open mind. We know that Jodi Arias is a consummate liar, who tells tall tales on others and paints herself in a way that would be most favorable to her cause. Therefore, the record evidence must be able to support what she has portrayed. If her story is unsupportable or the story is discredited, then that must be acknowledged. It is simply disgusting to read certain comments made by ordinary people who do not realize how hurtful their comments can be to the family and friends of the brutally slain victim, when they know that what is published about this man’s character is so misleading. This was read in a blog, “He dated the total Molly Mormon, the kind you take home to mother, who thought he was a virgin and had absolutely no idea he was using this girl on the side to live out every raunchy sexual fantasy he had. The need for him to keep up “Mormon” appearances was so strong, but such a lie” — and this was written by a person who believes that Jodi Arias is guilty as sin. So, you are right. The sex life of Travis Alexander must be discussed in order to understand the heinous nature of the crime and to restore the smeared reputation of the deceased.

Laine Did I say she held him at gunpoint to take the photos? I hope not cos I’m not necessarily of that opinion. Reason being if that was the case why didn’t she just shoot him in the shower – that would have been easier for her original plan. Plus I believe he knew enough to try to jump her if she held a gun to him because he already believed she could kill him and instinct would tell him she was going to pull that trigger and jumping her would be more of a chance to over-power her. I just don’t think he’d have sat on that shower floor no matter what. I think it was more… “just let me take these shower photos and I’ll be gone”.

He had already thought she had gone, she startled him in the shower coming back. He went along with her ‘poses’ in the hope afterwards she would leave again. This time for good. Sadly this was the worst decision of his life.

I think she was reluctant to use the gun because of the possibility it was traced to the theft in grandparents house end of May. So while it’s possible she had him at gunpoint and just chose to use the knife – I dunno something tells me that wasn’t the case. She could hardly have the knife, camera and the gun all at the same time.

She likely had the knife hidden on her so she could grab it when needed which is why she suddenly drops the camera when the attack begins.

jad

03/20/2013 at 7:45 am

Nienna — In your response to Nancy Pennington, you wrote about the sexual aspect of the case, in that it was your belief that the first sexual encounter of Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander was in Ehrenberg, Arizona (on route 10, 163 miles west from Mesa and 113 miles east from Palm Desert). That would definitely deserve an affirmative response because BOTH of them were in solid agreement with that particular matter. That episode of a sexual contact involved grinding — which apparently [in that particular episode with “jzzm”] seemed to have been accomplished either with clothing off or while one or both were semi-clothed (although quite dangerous because of the possibility of getting carried away into actual intercourse, rather than the simulated reproduction, and despite the fact that it can be done in a much safer manner with clothing). This act of grinding was done while the bodies were close together — mainly around the genital region (for purposes of stimulation). Fittingly, this can be done in either the standing or a reclining position.

{{Both Jodi Arias and Ryan Burns testified that there was a particular amount of grinding [which she has referred to as the “provo-push” and is also known as dry-humping] when they were at his house less than a day after she had viciously murdered Mr. Alexander. So, she is very familiar with this maneuver — especially since Mr. Burns testified that she was the one who adjusted him [while they were making-out or playing kissy-face] so that their genitals could be in alignment. Mr. Burns was the next man of the Mormon faith that she went after [although she also dated others in her Mormon Ward], and she engaged herself in that particular sexual maneuver even though she had never dated him and had only seen him briefly twice before at a Pre-Paid Legal event. At that one time when she would have been in the same area as Mr. Burns, she would have seen him for a short while one evening at a location where there were business speeches being made, and she would have seen him the next evening, when he was in a limousine with a bunch of people driving to another event [which she said she had no idea that he was in that limousine, until she was looking, at a later date, at photos she had snapped]. She had made a pact with the brother of Sky Hughes, [who was instrumental in the introduction of Ryan Burns as a future husband] in that she had gotten a promise from him that he would not snitch her out when she dated other men.}}

The mutual agreement of Jodi Arias and Travis Alexander about their first sexual experience can be heard on that audio recording [publicized as a sex tape] purportedly made May 10, 2008. However, in her Trial testimony, Jodi Arias has already ignored [the truth] and forgotten what she was in agreement with when talking to Mr. Alexander on that recorded phone conversation, when her testimony would instead place their journey to Ehrenberg shortly after an alleged sexual encounter at the residence of Chris and Sky Hughes and after another encounter in her vehicle (which vehicle for front seat sex has been described by her as a 2004 Infiniti Jeep Coupe). Both of those episodes were alleged to have occurred in September of 2006 within two weeks of meeting Mr. Alexander at a Pre-Paid Legal convention in Las Vegas. When asked what happened on the fourteenth day of the Trial, her description of what had occurred at the Hughes’ residence during the overnight stay the week after meeting Mr. Alexander and Chris and Sky Hughes was Mr. Alexander had walked into the bedroom uninvited, kissed her passionately, taken her clothes off, touched her all over, and performed oral sex on her, whereupon she reciprocated by performing oral sex on him and he ejaculated in her mouth (before they both fell asleep totally naked), which she started to explain as “I don’t really recall the specifics, uhmm, but we were getting intimate. We were making out basically . . . I don’t really recall that at first, uhm. It began to lead to more, uhmm, well, I don’t really recall how it happened”. At the second encounter that month, she said oral sex [only on him] took place in her car, and he ejaculated although “I don’t remember actually”. Then, shortly after not remembering if he had ejaculated, she said he refused to kiss her because he had ejaculated in her mouth. However, those episodes that she described to have been of a sexual nature (involving oral sex) could not have happened because both events would have predated the Ehrenberg episode that she and Mr. Alexander had BOTH been in AGREEMENT was the very FIRST TIME that they had contact of a sexual nature. In addition to not being able to have occurred because it was before the date of the recognized first date of sexual contact, the second sexual episode could not have occurred in the way she explained at Trial because she said that she performed an act of oral sex on Mr. Alexander in her car (in a parking lot of a local park down the street from a Starbucks) while his dog, Napoleon, was left in Mr. Alexander’s car with the windows up. This is an impossibility due to the fact that Mr. Alexander would never have mistreated his dog.

Some people have wondered about the purported sexual escapades between Travis Alexander and Jodi Arias that she testified to, under Oath, had occurred in November of 2006, which she said were directly after a three-day, two-night period of time they had spent at Ehrenberg. She described the first purported episode of sexual activity of that month to have happened on a Wednesday before Thanksgiving when Mr. Alexander was driving to his Grandmother’s house [in Riverside, with Napoleon in tow], and the second episode would have presumably been the Sunday of that week directly after her Baptism. This sexual activity was supposed to have occurred at her home in Palm Desert, during a time that she was living with her partner Darryl Brewer. Darryl Brewer was not a secret, as the Mormons knew about Jodi Arias living with a person of the opposite sex who had been her sexual partner, and the Mormons had originally refused to baptize her because of the conflict her living arrangement had with the Vow of Chastity. She testified that the Mormons of her Discussion Group wanted to reschedule her Baptism, but after she kept calling Mr. Alexander, he relented and agreed to baptize her — since [she told him] she could not reschedule [because she had already invited everyone to] her Baptism, of which a special invitee was her live-in boyfriend, Darryl Brewer. However, Darryl Brewer did not show up for this occasion that she said she had stressed was an important event. So, it would seem that Mr. Alexander would not have invaded her home to act in a sexually aggressive manner. Despite everything, she still lived with a man who was in a position of power to have sex with her, and he could have had any type of sex with her or she could have had any type of sex with Darryl Brewer when she went home to him after her Baptism. That could have been the sex act she was describing in the Courtroom, except identifying Mr. Alexander in the place of Darryl Brewer. Mr. Alexander would not have been the type to go to a woman’s home where she lived with a man she had described to be an alcoholic with an erratic work schedule (among other bad character flaws and therefore not a person to tangle with).

One matter of contention is the timing of the conversion of Jodi Arias to the Mormon faith. The only time that she admitted she ever attended a Mormon Church was (before she ever studied with the Mormons) on the day after she stayed at the residence of Chris and Sky Hughes (which included the alleged night time visit by Mr. Alexander), one week after meeting them at the Las Vegas convention [which attendance of Church was the first time since she was eleven years of age]. She has testified over-and-over again that she had not decided to become a Mormon until she met Mr. Alexander. Even then, she waited a while to make the decision to become a Mormon. She supposedly waited until he gave her a Book of Mormon, when he allegedly drove though Palm Desert and met her at a Starbucks [that ended with oral sex in her car in a park] in the last week of September of 2006. Next, he had to contact the Church and arrange with Mormon Missionaries to visit her at her residence in order to study and prepare for her conversion. She said she had nothing to do with contacting anyone in the Church, and everything happened under the instruction of Mr. Alexander. That would mean Jodi Arias could become a Mormon after approximately six weeks of study in the faith. However, the prosecutor at Trial brought out testimony from Darryl Brewer, who lived at the Palm Desert residence, that the Mormon Missionaries had visited during the summer months, which would have been BEFORE Jodi Arias ever met Mr. Alexander. That would tend to show that she had something else on her mind other than a simple conversion to another faith.

It is rather hard to describe the month of November without any testimony by Chris or Sky Hughes. They would have known whether Mr. Alexander was wont to pick up those scheduled for Baptism and drive them home as a chauffeur service because he was the Officiate. They would have known that Elder Jensen had refused to allow the Baptism to go forward [and did not want his partner involved either], and that it was the Branch President who had permitted the Baptism (even though Darryl Brewer had not yet moved, [since he had a separate bedroom and the Vow of Chastity would not be violated] and a move out date in December had been given). The little known of a Mormon Baptism is that explained by Daniel Freeman when he was testifying in the morning of the twelfth day of the Trial, and stated that a Baptism was in two parts. Thus, that would provide an explanation for why Mr. Alexander saw Jodi Arias twice in the month of November. (According to the testimony of Jodi Arias, of that entire year of 2006, Mr. Alexander had only visited her home in the month of November [which she said was twice]). The Hughes attended the Baptism and would have been able to provide testimony as to whether she drove there or not. If she drove to her Baptism, Mr. Alexander did not drive her home and commit an act of anal intercourse. Additionally, even if he had to drive her to and from the Baptism (and even if conveniently discounting the presence of Darryl Brewer), it is believed that Mr. Alexander never acted sexually towards Jodi Arias in 2006 because it is believed that their visit to Ehrenberg did not occur until 2007.

According to the conversation on that May 10, 2008 recorded phone conversation, Mr. Alexander and Jodi Arias had agreed that the film they watched when in Ehrenberg was Man of the Year. While it is true that the theatrical release of Man of the Year was in mid-October of 2006, it is doubtful that they were talking about watching this film at a movie theatre (and further doubtful that the initial release of a major motion picture [albeit not one with legs] would be in Ehrenberg). The two of them were speaking of what they had been doing in a hotel room. On that tape of May 10, 2008, she spoke of watching Deal or No Deal, burning CDs, and talking about the Book of Mormon. He reminded her that they watched some stupid movie, that when she asked if he remembered the movie, he had replied they had watched Man of the Year. However, her story changed by the time of the Trial. When she provided testimony at the Trial, she tried to make the one-day stopover appear to be their own little three-day, two-night holiday together, where they were grinding and performing oral sex on each other. That is not what was said on that [May 10, 2008] tape that was played in the Courtroom.

The actual date of the trip to Ehrenberg (along with other supported testimony and evidence in the record) discredits all of the stories about any sexual contact in 2006 that Jodi Arias has tried to insinuate into the minds of those watching the Trial or with interest in the Trial. The TRUTH of the matter is that Travis Alexander never desecrated a Holy Day.

At the moment she has him where she wants him.. i.e. down on the base of the shower. She strikes, dropping the camera yet inadvertently clicking the shutter and in a flash stabbing him in the heart.

He fights back, manages to stumble out of the shower to the basin, here he probably gasps and says something to her. Having been momentarily stunned that he not only survived her first strike but had been able to get himself out of the shower cubicle i.e. the possible true moment of brain freeze – she recovers and further attacks him in the back with the knife. He crumples to the floor still desperately trying to crawl to safety… she keeps striking in a raging frenzy… he’s getting away!! He’s still alive!!

He begs her to finish it.

She slits his throat.

He’s dead she looks around at her handiwork and starts dragging him towards the shower. His body spasms maybe he expels some air which is possible even if he is dead. She is startled and inadvertently knocks the camera which results in fateful photo of him on the floor after 62 seconds elapsed.

The movement panics her. Believing him to still be alive, runs to her purse grabs the gun and shoots him in the head. (this part needs to be confirmed with shot angles – it’s the most open to conjecture at this stage but the shot had to be last or close to last to have the case positioning and cleanliness it exhibited. It also ties in with the evidence of diminished bleeding into the skull cavities. as shown in autopsy.)

I don’t think I was clear on this. Another reason why I am not of this school is because I do not see how you can take photos of someone while holding them at gunpoint.

If she took the photo he would charge her. How does she hold and gun and take photos? I can’t get my head around how it could be done.

Melon Collie

03/20/2013 at 8:12 am

Pertaining to Samuels being an expert:

Ex = Has been

Spurt = Drip under pressure

PK

03/20/2013 at 9:05 am

Did Dr. Samuels, the forensic psychology defense expert actually say the following on redirect yesterday? True or False?

Somebody telling the truth about a prior event will often provide variations in the actual details, but a liar will tell the same story every time.

Answer: True!

And to think my wise Momma always told me a liar has a hard time remembering exactly what they said in the last lie they told. Exception might be when one rehearses a very big lie over and over again for nearly five years in confined quarters.

PK lol! Yep I believe he did. Cos I commented on it at the time I distinctly remember!

Anne

03/20/2013 at 9:58 am

Hi! Thanks for the court summaries; I love to read them even though I watch the trial everyday. Would you happen to know if Arias’ current self-defense plea arose simultaneously with the addition of Bert ‘n Ernie to her stable? Since he is an “expert” in sexual perversions according to his web site, I wondered if he actually presented that scenario to her rather than visa versa. I can’t stand the entire trio: Arias, Nurmi and Willmott!

One matter of contention is the timing of the conversion of Jodi Arias to the Mormon faith

Can you say that with a straight face?

I so need to find a good article on this. A psychopath will readily ‘convert’ morals, political beliefs, sexuality, religion. They will suddenly believe the exact opposite to what they did in the past if it suits them to snare their target. It’s textbook behaviour.

They have no allegiance to anyone but themselves hence everything about them is elastic. They will say black is white and swear to it if it forwards their cause.

One day to one person they claim be a member of the white supremacist group, the next day meet another and sincerely claim allegiance to zionism, the third day be talking to a muslim and convincingly convey sympathy to their cause.

They change their fundamental beliefs to suit any situation at any given time, this is why they try to keep friend groupings separated because likely if different people in their lives met it would be like talking about two different people when they compared what she had told them about herself. Often they reveal very little or nothing about their previous life, primarily for this reason.

(apologies for the emotive references but I wanted the strongest illustration I could come up with to illustrate this behaviour.)

Observer

03/20/2013 at 10:21 am

Syntara :Amendement to actual murder scenario:
He begs her to finish it.
She slits his throat.

I don’t think Travis begged her to finish it because I don’t think he was conscious enough to know what was going on by the time she slit his throat. She told Flores one of the Ninjas said: “Shut up. Finish it” to convince him that the Ninjas wanted either her dead or Travis dead. That isn’t how Travis talked. She borrowed that language from the Sopranos.

I would pay attention to these phrases, which is what attorneys call “excited utterances:,” Travis “screamed in pain, there was blood everywhere, he was on all fours, his legs weren’t working and he was just lying on the floor and he was there but not there. That’s when her voice sounded excited. Her voice was unemotional and deep and like she was imitating a Soprano mobster when she recited “Shut up. Finish it.”

I think as soon as Travis was stabbed in the heart and started coughing up blood that he was in shock and may not have even known where he was or what was happening to him. His instinct was to try to grab the knife to stop the pain and get to the sink to spit up the blood before he choked. Then his next instinct was to get away from the knife attack, which was relentless. He screamed in pain until he became numb and couldn’t feel it anymore.

Stabbing someone 28 times and slitting his throat takes a lot of concentration and energy. Talking or ranting at him would take too much energy and breath. She was cold, calculated and silent as she concentrated on the kill. Her goal was to make sure he was dead. She thought the first stab to the heart would kill him but he kept fighting to live. I doubt if he was saying anything but screaming in pain every time she stabbed which would give her satisfaction and power because she wanted him to suffer. He would be losing blood and strength. I’ve read that many people who survive being shot or stabbed wake up in the hospital and ask where they are and what happened. The last thing they remember may be going to bed at night or walking out their door.

I agree with you saying in another post that she planned for him to die in the shower because it was less messy. She also wanted him to be found in the shower because that is where Norman Bates victim was found in the movie Psycho and she was recreating the movie’s shower killing. When she told the Ninja story she was recreating The Sopranos.

jad after considering all the facts from the testimony and record evidence in the case. As a matter of fact, it is possible that Mr. Alexander was still a virgin when he died

Whoa…. you have my attention!

Anna Eaton

03/20/2013 at 10:32 am

John :
The fact that Travis asked her to “finish it” after she had been savagely butchering him is almost more than I can stand to even think about! It goes well beyond cold blooded murder and straight into EXTREME cruelty….she is pure evil and needs to be made to suffer equally if not more!!! Hoping for the sake of his family and justice for Travis that all of this ends soon and the jury has the good sense to convict her of first degree and give her the maximum sentence.

While it may not be a “fact” that Travis said that, ja did let the phrase slip out in referencing what Travis said to the ‘ninja lady’. I believe those are the words he said to the real killer (herself), which is why that phrase came out in the interview. Psychos blend truth into their own twisted reality. There’s nothing more disgustingly horrifying than watching ja pretend to tell a second of Travis’ story. Well, if she’s getting off on it, that would be sicker. Oh wait, she does appear that way. AHHHHH I’ve never paid so much attention to a human monster but I can’t get myself to look away for very long. Lord, please help me be more like the person my dog thinks I am!!!!

John, you are so right when you say, “It goes well beyond cold blooded murder and straight into EXTREME cruelty…” If she doesn’t get death, we’ll have to endure her art sales and smiley singing competitions (she can’t do that on death row can she??). In other words, her happiness here on earth will be detectable. IMO, that would be injustice for all, and I cannot imagine the pain that would cause Travis’ family.

LET JUSTICE RING!

Observer

03/20/2013 at 10:37 am

Syntara :Further to photos taken at gunpoint.
I don’t think I was clear on this. Another reason why I am not of this school is because I do not see how you can take photos of someone while holding them at gunpoint.
If she took the photo he would charge her. How does she hold and gun and take photos? I can’t get my head around how it could be done.

Correct. She used the knife and not the gun because the gun could jam and she needed the element of surprise. If he saw a knife or gun, a kickboxer/wrestler could easily overpower her. When she put her suitcases in the car, she retrieved the knife she’d hidden in the rental car and hid it in her clothing. By that time he was naked in the shower and she started taking photos. While he was staring into the lens of the camera she grabbed the knife with her dominant hand – the left – and with the intention to kill stabbed him in the heart.

John :The fact that Travis asked her to “finish it” after she had been savagely butchering him is almost more than I can stand to even think about! It goes well beyond cold blooded murder and straight into EXTREME cruelty….she is pure evil and needs to be made to suffer equally if not more!!! Hoping for the sake of his family and justice for Travis that all of this ends soon and the jury has the good sense to convict her of first degree and give her the maximum sentence.

While it may not be a “fact” that Travis said that, ja did let the phrase slip out in referencing what Travis said to the ‘ninja lady’

If you watch the interrogation video again you will hear Jodi say the Ninja said, “Shut up. Finish it.” All she said Travis said was to her, “I can’t feel my legs. I can’t get up. Get help. Go to the neighbors.” I don’t believe Travis said anything in that one minute he was fighting for his life. He was in shock and probably didn’t even know what was happening after the knife plunged into his heart and nicked his lungs. He was spitting up blood and screaming in pain and tried to get away from the knife attack. By the time she slit his throat he was unconscious on the rug.

katz63md

03/20/2013 at 10:52 am

Chrissie A #72 – Too Too funny!

Feel like I’m lurking all the time but there are so many great people on that it is taking me forever to read everything. Thanks Donchais for your recaps. I was so ready to turn off the stream at 5pm yesterday due to all the crap and sidebars but I am now an official addict of JA trial that I have to hang on to every horrendous minute. I’m looking forward to the jury’s questions but I bet W won’t let that happen today. 😦

Syntara #59, liked this scenario. I especially like the descriptions of her feelings. Seems as if they would fit her to a tee.

Observer I hope you are right but in my head I hear his raspy frail voice barely audible saying those words right before losing consciousness. He knew his fight was over and I can imagine him saying it. He had incredible strength of will but he knew she had won.

After she stabbed him and he had somehow pulled himself to the basin I can also imagine him spluttering standing over the ever widening blood splatter, bewildered and confused uttering ” You’ve killed me bitch” or something equivalent to that whatever was his way of speaking. Maybe “You’ve killed me” .

Then as he sinks to the floor with his last conscience breath “finish it”. He fought hard, He fought for his life like very few people could have. The fact he actually got out of the shower and to the basin was quite amazing. She killed him at least 3 times over.

She never expected him to get out of that shower and very few people could have with that wound, from there he just kept fighting.

Schaeffer- both happened during the after lunch session on 3/19. One of them was during re-direct from JW. She put her left hand to her mouth ( very slyly ) something went in and with her right hand took a drink from her cup. I was amazed because her movements were like she was hardly moving. She did not even look like she swallowed the water. Then to me she got that ‘doe in the head light look”. I need to find a site where I can go back and see it again.

Nancy Pennington

03/20/2013 at 11:10 am

It seems that most of us on this site do not believe that the gun shot was the first injury. The hot ME said that also in his testimony. Just a point…have any of you ever experienced dental tx with anesthetic? Tried to talk and slurred words ? How in the hell could Travis yell that he was going to kill her and call her names etc when the bullet went in his forehead and came out the opposite jaw??? There had to have been massive damage to him mouth. Right?? He may have yelled he was going to kill her after she initiated the attack by stabbing him in the chest or stomach while he was in the shower. But since he was so badly wounded at that point, she could have chosen flight instead she chose fight. And it was a fight to the death. Sad part is that Travis had no chance of winning this fight .

MMD

03/20/2013 at 11:15 am

Hi folks. Thanks for the well wishes and hugs but still have a migraine. Storm started around 7:30 this morning and we rec’d about a foot of snow by 10:30. Entire town shut down and now it’s really nice out. Just wish the weather forecasters would talk to me as my head is usually better than they are.

Anyway, I have read all the comments and not much sunk in so I will have to reread once the head is better.

The only thing that stuck out was that Chrissie said that court might not be dark on Thursday – any news on that?????????

I don’t think I will both to watch the part of the Willmott/Quack show from yesterday that I missed since I’m sure it is all in the comments. Thankfully court doesn’t start until 5:00 pm my time so hopefully will be feeling better by then. 🙂

Will be back later. I miss my peeps. 😦

Observer

03/20/2013 at 11:15 am

Syntara, in the movies the hero might say, “You’ve killed me” and “finish it.” But in real life, when in a life or death situation, all the victim wants to do is survive. Especially Travis. He was a survivor. Travis loved life and had a strong belief in his faith. If he could even think when he was standing at the sink or collapsed on the floor, he would have believed this was just another obstacle to overcome and he would triumph.

Travis never gave up when he was trapped in a nightmare of a childhood or when he almost died when a robber put a gun to his head and pulled the trigger. His friends said his past striggles pushed him to succeed. Travis had a bright future ahead of him. He would never give that up. He fought to live until the bitter end. It was this will to live that kept him alive through 29 stab wounds in two minutes.

Anna Eaton

03/20/2013 at 11:19 am

After watching all the videos of Travis, and Eddie Snell, I can imagine him telling ja to:
1) “shut up” I imagine ja had quite a lot to say in those frenzied, oh-crap-he-won’t-die, 62 seconds (which probably felt like an hour to Travis) and I can envision Mr. Alexander telling her to shut up. It’s also what he wanted to tell that lady in the store where he was held at gun point.
(2) “finish it” I really think he could have said this. I can see Travis looking at her, all the ‘despair’ and probably terror in his ‘retinas’ now turned to disbelief and excruciating pain, and right before she nearly decapitated him, he told her to do it. Maybe he called her bitch as well. I bet she wouldn’t have been in the mood to be a called a bitch at the time and hence the massive, life-ending throat slash. Travis wasn’t backward about coming forward. The whole “F**king kill you bitch” statement could have been made, too. He might have said that while trying to fight back in self defense. While “finish it” does sound Soprano-ish, who knows what she was saying to him.
Obviously it’s all speculation, and we’ll never know the truth. I’m just interested in different theories. It is possible ja used mafia lingo in the interview to lend credence to her new story, but then why not add something else like, the ninjas said Travis owed them money or something?
So, will ja write a book entitled, “Not If I Did It, But How”? And how many versions would there be?

Anna Eaton

03/20/2013 at 11:23 am

No MMD! Feel better now! 🙂

Nancy Pennington

03/20/2013 at 11:31 am

Observer: I totally agree with you that Travis would prob not asked JA to “finish it” regardless of the pain. He had overcome so much and seemed to love life to much to give up.

She took psycho poses of him, then meant to kill him in the shower. She is worse than I thought. No wonder I feel her evil from my tv on the other side of the world. Can anyone really get their head around this? Their head around how evil this all is?

To cover her premeditation she admitted to Detective Flores they were psycho poses? WTF! Did she suspect they would find them on the camera? me thinks so.

I knew there was something in those poses I just didnt know what the wounds and the poses the whole thing. I’m gobsmacked right now. Even I did not see this one coming.

Nancy Pennington

03/20/2013 at 11:35 am

MMD: so sorry you are feeling punky again today. I’ll bet you forgot to wear your tin hat and the migraines got in. We need you to get better because you are missed!

1) “shut up” I imagine ja had quite a lot to say in those frenzied, oh-crap-he-won’t-die, 62 seconds (which probably felt like an hour to Travis)

Anne Yes it would have, it would have been an excruciatingly long 62 seconds that’s the thing. It all happened in 62 seconds but no-one can imagine living through those 62 seconds. To him it would have seemed like an eternity of horror. I hope his horrors are over and one days hers will begin. He may have suffered 62 seconds hell that seemed like an eternity on earth but I hope she will suffer an eternity of it once she leaves earth.

I have a childhood friend who is a very renowned psychologist and I emailed him last weekend about schlock doc and asked for his thoughts which confirm most of what JM has covered in his cross. He said I could share with all of you.

There are some major and serious flaws in his
testimony. Not the least of which he doesn’t mention the validity scales on the
MCMI-111. The MMPI-2 would be a much better choice.

What about PTSD? The first word is Post, what
difference does it matter if there is trauma after an event; the issue is her
state of mind or memory just before and during the event.

What about using the DSMIV-TR in
a forensic setting? He could be vigorously challenged on this.

Does it matter that his website
is a bit grandiose?

Does it matter that he apparently
said in the hallway that this will result in a good book?

Does it matter that he walked
near the defendant and smiled?

Does it matter who hired him
first and in what capacity? How does he reconcile the dual role- treater and expert?
This appears to be another ethical violation and will be grist for the prosecutor’s
mill.

Did he go beyond the scope of
his license?

Is it legal malpractice to hire
a compromised expert, i.e., one with some excess baggage such as a disciplinary
offense, or conflict of interest?

NancyB

03/20/2013 at 11:48 am

MMD – soothing and healing energy coming to you with a virtual big hug! 🙂

What about PTSD? The first word is Post, what
difference does it matter if there is trauma after an event; the issue is her
state of mind or memory just before and during the event

Sure, but what the defense is trying to do is say her lying – which is the biggest problem they have – is attributable to PTSD, not the killing itself. Well I’m sorry but PTSD simply does not turn you into a pathological liar. End of.

He couldn’t. None of her BS story about Travis attacking her or threatening to kill her is true. She made it up to make Travis look like the bad guy and her the good guy. In the Ninja story, she is the heroine who tries to save the man she loves from villains. In her new story Travis is the villain whom she tries to save from himself and in the end kills him trying to save herself.

Jodi is a pathological liar who lies to get herself out of jams. We can’t believe anything she says about Travis. To figure out how he would have reacted in this situation, you have to look at Travis personality. He was a religious man who had a strong faith in God and Jesus Christ and a motivational speaker who with humor urged people to overcome obstacles and succeed in life. Ex girlfriends Lisa Diadone and Mimi Hall both said Travis was gentle, kind, understanding and respectful to women. His friends said he loved to help people and make them laugh.

In the video of Travis speaking at Pre-Paid legal you couldn’t hear what he said because the audience laughter drowned him out. He wrote in his blog when he was starving and his mother beat him, he knew his grandma was going to come save him and when he was 10 he screamed until she came and got him for good. His grandma raised him and he never went back to his drug addicted parents. When a robber had the gun to his head and pulled the trigger, he prayed and the gun jammed. He would never have threatened to kill Jodi at any point. He would have prayed and fought for his life.

donchais

03/20/2013 at 12:03 pm

Heads Up

posted 2 hours ago

WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
I am told by the court that the decision on if court will be held on Thursday the 21st will be made at the end of trial today. #JodiArias

Observer

03/20/2013 at 12:04 pm

Syntara :Has anyone got any idea when she admitted to detective Flores these were poses from Psycho?
All I remember her saying about them was she wanted the great effect from the water and she was trying to imitate a Calvin Klein theme.

She said they were recreating scenes from a movie. She never mentioned Psycho.

If Travis had been successful in getting the knife away from Jodi and survived the attack, being a man of faith in God and Jesus Christ, he would have forgiven Jodi and want her to take responsibility and repent and change. He wouldn’t see that psycopaths don’t change because he had faith that anyone could improve themselves.

Chrissie A

03/20/2013 at 12:22 pm

Cable guy was only supposed to replace boxes, now it’s turned into a major overhaul, it wasn’t fun trying to get 2 Boston terriers and 2 kitties in the garage asap, plus I’m still in me jammies – I need to catch up on all the wonderful posts for today, but meanwhile here is a funny I just saw on the Twit

Marilyn I believe when wormi and Dodgy got with her and said… ” Look the intruder story isn’t going to cut it everyone knows it’s a load of crap. ” She finally let go of that version and simply took probably unintended cues from Dodgy, told him what he wanted to hear ( which is exactly how her disorder operates) and voila the new version is born. I’ve posted about this exact scenario a couple times now I think.

Even before Dodgy revealed on the stand she’d initially stuck to the ninja story with him Id posted about her tailoring this version to suit him.

I was actually shocked when I heard him say initially she had presented still insisting the ninja story was fact. He still didn’t see her true nature?… that guy really doesnt understand what he is dealing with I’m almost sure of that.

He further went on to explain he’d gone to her with wormi and basically said.. “nobody believes this croc o poo poos you have to come up with something else.”

Surely he doesn’t believe this version? Surely he isn’t that bad of a psychologist? hmmmm ! *thinks back to the dog ate my notes moment* maybe he is LOL

The Shyster needs to conform “His” story so he can continue to get hired by other suckers!

Marilyn N

03/20/2013 at 12:37 pm

Chrissie A: Oh My G ! That video is SOOOOO Funny.
Who is that? From the hair barrett to the nose flair it is perfect.
Finally got my boiling blood down( from reviewing all your posts) by watching it!!!
Thank you.

Observer

03/20/2013 at 12:40 pm

Jad, I think you may be right that Travis was still a virgin when he was brutally murdered. Jodi is a pathological liar so we can’t believe anything she says. In the phone sex tape and text messages, all he admits to is grinding, masturbating which she taught him, taking a bath with her and fantasizing about sex, which is role playing.

Observer: It wouldn’t surprise me. It could have all been erotic fantasy between them which would go a long way to explaining the nature of the sex phone sex and why she recorded it. To use against him!! OMG fits perfectly!!,

ok next stumbling block.. how did those pics get on the cmera… the ones before he is in the shower?

Observer

03/20/2013 at 1:04 pm

After listening to Dr. Fraud on the stand saying Nurmi and he told her they didn’t believe the Ninja story but believe the pedophile/abuse story, I believe the self defense pedophile/abuse story was cooked up by Dr. Fraud, who claims he is an expert on pedophiles, and Nurmi, who advertises that he represents pedophiles. Wlmott got a worried look on her face when Dr. Fraud said he didn’t believe Jodi’s first story and Nurmi and he went to Jodi and started to repeat the conversation when she cut him off and said, “You confronted her. Right?” and he said, “Yes.”

Since Dr. Fraud has no ethics or boundaries and loves to hear himself talk, she was afraid he was going to spill the beans. I still believe Jodi gave Dr. Fraud sexual favors to say what she wanted him to say and she was passing him notes yesterday through the mitigation specialist to tell him what to testify. I hope she is charged with tampering with a witness and publicly humiliated and that Arpaio punishes her in prison by making her eat bread and water until she is transferred to a state prison. That is the punishment for inmates who don’t follow the jail rules.

I saw her shake her head at him at one point and give a distinct nod at another.

She’s a psychopath, a master manipulator and liar. She took every cue Wormi gave her when she was on the stand. He was almost telling her how to answer with a lot of his objections.. especially when she was on the run from Juan Baby (see Grace me and him are on pet name basis)

It doesnt take much to give her cues to run with, watch when she hits on the Ninja story in the Det. Flores interviews. She’s failing.. almmost breaking… then she grabe the two person thing from an inadvertent cue by Det Flores… and off she goes… out spews the ninja story. It’s wild to watch it unfold before your very eyes.

The knees go to the table, the story is unveiled right in front of us.

Observer

03/20/2013 at 1:14 pm

Syntara, all the pictures on the camera show is her posing nude and him posing nude in sexual poses. There are no pictures of them actally having sex.

itsafigment

03/20/2013 at 1:17 pm

Martinez is a genuis. Def attys keep saying he is in the weeds! Go thru the weeds since this is a maze of lies and he RIPPED Samuels, back toNJ or him! Left questions in my desk? Really? Jodi looked like she was ready to slice and dice Smuels who is as phiny as $3 bill!My husbandhas been a defense atty but with a conscience, in a way. I mean he wouldn;t touch a case like this or rapists or child molesters but Mob guys and big time drug dealers…what can I say but he is JUST LIKE Juan..if the 2 of them were on the same case it would be a blood bath but he loves watching him. Normally the defense is the fireworks and the prosecutor is BORING…yikes Nuri & Willimott could put you to sleep zzzzz…..I must admit this trial is addicting so dark on Thurday? It will be Christmas by the time this is over and now Casey Anthony looks like a choirgirl!

Chrissie A

03/20/2013 at 1:19 pm

Syntara : Chrissie A thanks for the link to the psycho comparison shots. omg!
She took psycho poses of him, then meant to kill him in the shower. She is worse than I thought. No wonder I feel her evil from my tv on the other side of the world. Can anyone really get their head around this? Their head around how evil this all is?
To cover her premeditation she admitted to Detective Flores they were psycho poses? WTF! Did she suspect they would find them on the camera? me thinks so.
I knew there was something in those poses I just didnt know what the wounds and the poses the whole thing. I’m gobsmacked right now. Even I did not see this one coming.

Unfrggin’ believable eh? Those blew me away as well. It’s so hard to wrap one’s mind around someone that mental – surely they can’t be coincidental? I don’t recall her mentioning psycho poses to Flores,but if that tape is played in court could these comparisons be admitted into evidence to prove premeditation? I would love the jury to see them!

Observer.. yes I know .. so those explicit photos of her are ok? I would have thought he wouldn’t want them on his camera? So no mystery to that ..ok that makes things easier to work with then. No doubt she took those shots of herself herself… ok more than likely rather than no doubt would be more accurate.

Nienna

03/20/2013 at 1:24 pm

PK :
Did Dr. Samuels, the forensic psychology defense expert actually say the following on redirect yesterday? True or False?
Somebody telling the truth about a prior event will often provide variations in the actual details, but a liar will tell the same story every time.
Answer: True!
And to think my wise Momma always told me a liar has a hard time remembering exactly what they said in the last lie they told. Exception might be when one rehearses a very big lie over and over again for nearly five years in confined quarters.

I thought the same thing!! Such BS!!

Chrissie A

03/20/2013 at 1:24 pm

Observer :
Syntara, all the pictures on the camera show is her posing nude and him posing nude in sexual poses. There are no pictures of them actally having sex.

You’re gonna need a barf bag when you see her vajayjay, it’s nasty, I don’t ever want to see that thing again. It’s no wonder Travis went in the backdoor.

In the video of Travis speaking at Pre-Paid legal you couldn’t hear what he said because the audience laughter drowned him out. He wrote in his blog when he was starving and his mother beat him, he knew his grandma was going to come save him and when he was 10 he screamed until she came and got him for good. His grandma raised him and he never went back to his drug addicted parents. When a robber had the gun to his head and pulled the trigger, he prayed and the gun jammed. He would never have threatened to kill Jodi at any point. He would have prayed and fought for his life.

Exactly what I think!!

Observer

03/20/2013 at 1:41 pm

Syntara, Jodi testified that he was looking at the pictures on the camera and deleting them. When investigators found the camera after it had gone through a cycle in the washing machine, the memory card was not damaged but it was blank. Specialists were able to retrieve the pictures although she had deleted them all.

Janeto

03/20/2013 at 1:44 pm

MMD :Hi folks. Thanks for the well wishes and hugs but still have a migraine. Storm started around 7:30 this morning and we rec’d about a foot of snow by 10:30. Entire town shut down and now it’s really nice out. Just wish the weather forecasters would talk to me as my head is usually better than they are.
Anyway, I have read all the comments and not much sunk in so I will have to reread once the head is better.
The only thing that stuck out was that Chrissie said that court might not be dark on Thursday – any news on that?????????
I don’t think I will both to watch the part of the Willmott/Quack show from yesterday that I missed since I’m sure it is all in the comments. Thankfully court doesn’t start until 5:00 pm my time so hopefully will be feeling better by then.
Will be back later. I miss my peeps.

Hey MMD!! I sure hope you get to feeling better soon too! As Nancy P said, maybe you forgot to wear your tin foil hat and the migraine got in! But then again, we all prbably got close to migraines due to the BS Gus2 on the stand. I swear Jodi must have learned how to answer from this a$$hole! He sounds just like her!!!! Babbling, and turning to the jury when he wants to stress something “good” about JA! Oy vey! donchais, this site has given me fits lately. Floating e-mail address, and names. Can’t see what you’re typing. Yesterday I couldn’t even get on the site. It kept hosing up and being “non responsive”. Guess like Gus2 with JM! LOL!!! Anyway, thought you might want to know. MMD, again, get better, soon! XOXO, hugs, your peeps!!!

donchais

03/20/2013 at 1:47 pm

Janeto…had some major internet interruptions the past day or so…sorry, out of my control!

Chrissie if that tape is played in court could these comparisons be admitted into evidence to prove premeditation? I would love the jury to see them!

Which tape?

Other than that….

This is what I was trying to say when I posted my reference to the photos and the ME sketches of the wounds in that link I sent. I sensed they show prmeditation but didn’t have the final link ie the psycho shots. I saw they resembled the wound areas days ago and had been trying to find better pics than Id seen to confirm it. Then someone explained the HLN to me and gave me a link to the site and I saw the ME’s short version of the wounds on there.

No this is NOT coincidence this is taking deliberately posed photos before the murder.

This is evidence of a very very dangerous mind that very few of us can even conceive of.

She had it planned right down to the throat slash the only thing she didn’t plan on was Travis fighting so hard and messing up the bathroom.

Wierd. Try clicking the top of the video where it reads “Jodi Arias Murder Trial Day 31…..”

Mckealty

03/20/2013 at 2:14 pm

Also, I hope this site isn’t loaded with all of the conspiracy theories about her crumpling up papers and hiding folders etc.

A defendant is allowed to take notes to and from court from her cell. A defendant can sit there and make paper airplanes if they so choose.

These videos of her “hiding a folder”, or talking to someone (the defense consultant that sits behind them, or apparently magically “palming” a piece of paper is for Oprahwives.

Don’t allow that stuff to go on here.

A defendant is allowed to take notes, can even take those notes and fold them up and put them in their pocket. They can even throw a piece of paper away. They are also allowed to talk to their lawyers and have their lawyers act (such as make an objection) etc. I actually heard someone on a Facebook page that she couldn’t believe Jodi had whispered something to Willmott and that Willmott stood up immediately and made an objection.

All these people talking about her passing around papers and apparently hiding papers have watched too much television and have little to no understanding of the legal system.

That’s called assisting in your defense.

Please let this be a place where people discuss the actual topics without any of the conspiracy theories.

As I stated before…I was a victim of domestic violence. I am a man.

I find her, her defense team and this Dr to be disgusting. I find it insulting that this domestic abuser is doing what she’s doing. I hope she fries.

But the whole notes/paper thing is getting out of hand, and is distracting people from serious talk about what’s really going on.

its ok could view it on my imac just view on itube wasn’t active on my ipad for some reason. God how I hate to see Jodi laughing and happy.. and the little wave and genuine smile from Wilmott does she actually like her???????

DONCHAIS: I know you have plenty of work keeping this site moving, but I’d like to know if you have a legitimate address for “The Travis Alexander Fund.” I know there’s a site on Facebook, but I don’t go there. There was one here way back, don’t remember where. Would love to donate to the sweet family of Travis towards their hardship with this trial. An address per snail mail would be great – don’t care to use CC over the internet. Thanks!

Chrissie A :
BOMBSHELL!! Watch as specialist passes note from JA to her Mum (lower right side of screen)

That’s BS! Hope there are repercussions for this!!!!!!!!!!

At the very least the so called specialist should be taken off of the case – And JA needs to be watched constantly!!!! The psycho conniving little bitch is laughing at all of us, especially the Alexanders!!!!

Chrissie A

03/20/2013 at 2:25 pm

Syntara :
Why is is always the good ppl who suffer and the evil wins. Grrrrrr
ok rant over… apologies!
Now about this note passing… what is the significance of it… ie what is going on exactly?

I believe that any communication she has with anyone has to be vetted by the jail officials, e.g. the magazines she coded and tried to get to Matt McCartney

Family of Law

03/20/2013 at 2:25 pm

So far the taxpayers of Maricopa County, AZ have coughed up well over 800,000 in their defense of this sociopath! And they’re not done yet! Dr. Toad is receiving big $$$$ for some of the worst “expert testimony” I’ve ever heard!!

I wonder if Jodi has plans to get revenge on Dr. Toad face for incompetence?

Syntara : Chrissie if that tape is played in court could these comparisons be admitted into evidence to prove premeditation? I would love the jury to see them!
Which tape?

The taped interview of her talking to Flores about psycho – cable guy just walked past and glimpsed at my laptop screen – I think he was looking for porn – hahahahah

NancyB

03/20/2013 at 2:49 pm

jessi :
DONCHAIS: I know you have plenty of work keeping this site moving, but I’d like to know if you have a legitimate address for “The Travis Alexander Fund.” I know there’s a site on Facebook, but I don’t go there. There was one here way back, don’t remember where.
Would love to donate to the sweet family of Travis towards their hardship with this trial. An address per snail mail would be great – don’t care to use CC over the internet. Thanks!

Jesse – Here is the info that I posted – I know that they are very grateful for each and every donation as vacation time has run out and it’s very expensive to be at the trial everyday but they could not be anywhere else. I received a lovely personal email thanking me for my donation as all others had but I’ve since heard that they have gone to an automated response generic thank you due to the stress they are under, which we all can understand I am sure. I used the PayPal option with the email addy. I only listed the facebook addy as a link to where I found the info. You don’t need to go there to donate. There’s also a snail mail address where cards or checks can be mailed.

We’ve had numerous requests from people wishing to assist Travis’ family with travel and living expenses during the trial.
Please make donations to the following PayPal email:justice4travisalexander@gmail.comTo send cards or cheques, please use this postal address:
Tanisha Sorenson
ALS
700 E. Redlands Blvd. STE U 304
Redlands, CA. 92373
[We advise that the admins of this site do not manage this acct. It is handled exclusively by Travis’ family.]https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Travis/posts/441165645959583

The interview with her saying about the photos and them being for Calvin Klein theme with the water effect is in there – Im not a big movie buff so I don’t remember the move or soprano reference but II do remember he voice going darth vadar / linda blair exorcists could be same time.

Think it’s the first interview when she’s slithering across the table and practically coming on to him so overtly I though she was going to entwine herself around him at one stage. He plays along beautifully.

PK

03/20/2013 at 2:54 pm

Get this. I just posted the following on the jodiariasisinnocent.com site and not only was it deleted at the moderation phase, the path to my computer has been banned from even accessing that web site. Now that is censorship taken to the max!

After all is said and done, the believable testimony corroborated by the forensic evidence combined with the common sense of the jurors will determine the outcome of this case.

NancyB

03/20/2013 at 2:55 pm

WOW Chrissie – that is a bombshell! Any idea who that lady is that passed the note?

NancyB

03/20/2013 at 2:57 pm

PK :
Get this. I just posted the following on the jodiariasisinnocent.com site and not only was it deleted at the moderation phase, the path to my computer has been banned from even
accessing that web site. Now that is censorship taken to the max!After all is said and done, the believable testimony corroborated by the forensic evidence combined with the common sense of the jurors will determine the outcome of this case.

Not surprised PK! Any rational/reasonable point of view is verboten! 🙂

Nienna

03/20/2013 at 2:58 pm

NancyB :
WOW Chrissie – that is a bombshell! Any idea who that lady is that passed the note?

They’ve been pretty smart questions so far – I think one of them is messing with her, I mean who would ask JA the what her definition of Skank is? lol

Chrissie A

03/20/2013 at 3:06 pm

The *the* was supposed to be omitted in my last post 😦

Chrissie A

03/20/2013 at 3:09 pm

Syntara :
hahahahahaha! Too funny! re cable guy.
The interview with her saying about the photos and them being for Calvin Klein theme with the water effect is in there – Im not a big movie buff so I don’t remember the move or soprano reference but II do remember he voice going darth vadar / linda blair exorcists could be same time.
Think it’s the first interview when she’s slithering across the table and practically coming on to him so overtly I though she was going to entwine herself around him at one stage. He plays along beautifully.

Tx – will hunt that part of the tape down and have another listen. (cable guy has left the building!)

I could not get the video, but is this in reference to the info from Flores yesterday about note passing. Also if some one is to watch her where are they????????? They better get off the stick or who knows what she will try. And who holds the zapper if she goes bezerk? ohhh I wish she would!!!!

Chrissie A

03/20/2013 at 3:10 pm

Syntara :
I think she’s the fluoro orange lady that has been peeing me off since the beginning. When she was sitting in Jodi’s seat while she was on the stand she was acting like a 16 year old

I also think the “is it possible Travis moved the camera” is someone messing with her too. and she said yes…. how??????? LOL but that’s her need to please she can’t say no to anyone in case they don’t like her. She has a pathological need to be liked so she feels she is manipulating and controlling. She can’t read motives though so unless it’s explained to her she goes for the sweet acquiescent persona as much as possible. We call it here “butter wouldn’t melt in her mouth” ie feigning innocence.

NancyB

03/20/2013 at 3:17 pm

Family of Law :
So far the taxpayers of Maricopa County, AZ have coughed up well over 800,000 in their defense of this sociopath! And they’re not done yet! Dr. Toad is receiving big $$$$ for some of the worst “expert testimony” I’ve ever heard!!

I wonder if Jodi has plans to get revenge on Dr. Toad face for incompetence?

Not at all surprised. I heard Beth Karas saying that it is highly unusual for a psych expert to spend up to 30 hrs with client. She never in her career has seen such a case. Normally, the psychologist spends about 3 hrs with client interviewing and testing and that is IT. She said that in the normal course the expert would have interviewed her family and friends just as JM pointed out that this bozo did not do.

I think it was the defense team who called all those shots of telling him not to interview anyone, to make all those visits and bill all those hours, to not communicate with anyone at the jail and only with them. He is a very sleazy guy with no personal integrity and just wants his $250/hr and will say or do almost anything regardless of the veracity.

His last jail visit was 12/12 when he supposedly discovered that he had not administered the PSD correctly and had to add symptomatology for categories C & D. Which he never formerly notified the State of or sent them a revised copy! That’s a HUGE discovery violation.

Chrissie A

03/20/2013 at 3:19 pm

Tracey A :
And to whomever gave Wilmott the name of WillNot…kudos to you! LMAO!! She’s just Miss Perky to me (and not in a good way)!

It may be a huge discovery violation, which is great….. it’s also gross incompetence and basically invalidates his whole testimony.

NancyB

03/20/2013 at 3:25 pm

A meta-analysis of the MCMI-III and Axis II disorders by Rogers et al.
found the MCMI-III was insufficiently validated.

Here are the two key
conclusions of that meta-analysis:

1. The MCMI-III scales lack sufficient “construct
validity” to be used in forensic settings. For example,
the MCMI-III scale for Schizotypal Personality
Disorder showed a negligible relationship (r= 0.16)
to this diagnosis and appeared more related (r=0.38)
to other disorders.

2. MCMI-III scales cannot be used to diagnose DSM-
IV personality disorders; the test may generate
errors in about 80% of diagnosed cases

Some mental health professionals continue to use the
MCMI-III because of its brevity and ease of adminis-
tration; it provides interpretative data with a minimum
of professional time.

Unfortunately, close examination suggests that the MCMI-III may promise more than it
delivers. The test manual is helpful in this regard, advising that conclusions from the MCMI-III should be viewed as “a series of tentative and probabilistic judgments.” Given the admitted tentativeness of its conclusions, coupled with methodological limitations, its role in forensic cases is, at best, very circumscribed.

Dr. Syntara; do you think Flores knew or had an idea that JA is a psychopath?? I was amazed in the softness of his voice when questioning her. He an everyone else must have been observing her when he left the interrogation room. Wonder what they thought?

Juan Baby also made him admit his testimony was invalid because his diagnosis was erred in the if the known lie was changed there was not enough criteria for a PTSD diagnosis it’s also so obviously invalid because she’s a pathological liar so no way could you trust her to answer honestly which means you can’t test her for it.

Family of Law

03/20/2013 at 3:41 pm

I’m a bad Mom- I have my son hooked on this trial- His Spring Quarter break starts tomorrow, he’s going to visit his girlfriend who is studying in Paris- He’s very excited to visit her, but he’s now worried about not being able to see the trial all week! But thanks to all of you smart people, I was able to provide him with links to watch the live feed:) He sighed relief….phew, disaster averted!

Family of Law :
I wonder if Jodi has plans to get revenge on Dr. Toad face for incompetence?

He’ll probably be on her list, and I’m sure she has one

Chrissie, I’ve followed your comments, and you have such a good grasp of the facts, and lots of fab intel- So I was wondering why you think she bought. 9mm after she killed Travis- I don’t buy the camping story…

hey Im in Oz and I can see it… tell him to sneak into her computer room and youtube it! lol let’s hope he is more interested in her and Paris though lol… the you tube days will be there for him to cath up on when he gets back!

NancyB

03/20/2013 at 3:47 pm

I highly doubt that the defense will even be sanctioned about this latest discovery violation. The judge surely can’t disallow this bottom of the barrel doc’s testimony – it’s a death penalty trial. It’s same old – same old — the prosecution gets blindsided and has to do the necessary work involved at the last minute – so to speak – to be ready to cross. When Juan called him on the violation JW objected before he could complete his sentence – then sidebar -then Juan was unable to finish about the violation in open court but proceeded to address the crummy doc’s screwing up the entire test and adding parameters to C & D.

Im looking at the crime scene photos… in the early testimony dys as I try to find the right Flores interview vid. it’s perfectly neat house with what looks like a vacuum cleaner in the middle of nowhere… exactly why did she leave it there… it’s all so freaky!

Imagine going in there.. everything quiet and in perfect order… seeing the cleaning appliance in the middle of the floor… thinking.. somethings not right here… . going up to his room and finding that horror in the bathroom. It’s all so weird. She definitely meant to leave not trace but the body washed in the shower it’ so obvious.

I hate this case. I hope I never see another like it as long as I live.

Syntara :
Im looking at the crime scene photos… in the early testimony dys as I try to find the right Flores interview vid. it’s perfectly neat house with what looks like a vacuum cleaner in the middle of nowhere… exactly why did she leave it there… it’s all so freaky!
Imagine going in there.. everything quiet and in perfect order… seeing the cleaning appliance in the middle of the floor… thinking.. somethings not right here… . going up to his room and finding that horror in the bathroom. It’s all so weird. She definitely meant to leave not trace but the body washed in the shower it’ so obvious.
I hate this case. I hope I never see another like it as long as I live.

His roommates said he had just bought that floor cleaner. They said the last time they saw him, it was not assembled and must have done it while they were out of the house that day. They said he had moved the furniture off the tile to probably clean the floor. But obviously he never got a chance to do that.

How come neither of the roommates found him earlier. I heard one was at house sitting somewhere? But the other one I understood had left for work as normal.. what is the story with that please someone?

Family of Law

03/20/2013 at 4:05 pm

Thanks Syntara:) Lol! Yes, I’m quite sure he is far more excited to visit his girl (I hope!) I will pass on your help to him, he’ll be all messed up with the time change, so while she sleeps, he can get on the laptop and get his “fix”!

Nienna

03/20/2013 at 4:05 pm

It’s in the police report. They both said they thought he had left for the cancun trip early.

Nienna

03/20/2013 at 4:06 pm

Nienna :
It’s in the police report. They both said they thought he had left for the cancun trip early.

That that wouldn’t have been unusual for him because of his job.

MMD

03/20/2013 at 4:07 pm

Syntara :
How come neither of the roommates found him earlier. I heard one was at house sitting somewhere? But the other one I understood had left for work as normal.. what is the story with that please someone?

They thought he was in Cancun. He traveled a lot for work as well and did not socialize with the roommates.

Nienna

03/20/2013 at 4:09 pm

WildAboutTrial@WildAboutTrial

Trial should get going at 1:30

Again! WTF!!!!!

Tracey A

03/20/2013 at 4:09 pm

Greetings all!

Chrissie A – Your YouTube video spoofing Nancy Grace still has me laughing. That is just too funny!!! And good job on WillNot.

Chrissie A

03/20/2013 at 4:09 pm

Mckealty :
Also, I hope this site isn’t loaded with all of the conspiracy theories about her crumpling up papers and hiding folders etc.
A defendant is allowed to take notes to and from court from her cell. A defendant can sit there and make paper airplanes if they so choose.
These videos of her “hiding a folder”, or talking to someone (the defense consultant that sits behind them, or apparently magically “palming” a piece of paper is for Oprahwives.

With all due respect I posted the latest “note passing clip” I am not an Oprah watcher neither a “talking heads” viewer. We cover many topics on this blog which include current trends on Twitter/Facebook which are then usually picked up by the networks after the fact.

If the passing of notes etc. is allowed then why is it appearing to be underhanded, why not simply do it out in the open?

We also share jokes on here and have a tongue in cheek disposition while dealing with the atrocity that is this trial and have serious in depth conversations on various topics as they come up during the trial. I suggest you “get the flow” of the blog before jumping to conclusions – there is not one person on here that thinks that what happened to Travis Alexander was not a horrendous act by a possessed maniac.

I am also a domestic abuse survivor, (as are many others on this blog) I was beaten numerous times and the last time almost to death. As I was threatened that I would be killed, “so that no-one else could have me” I was actually police escorted to the airport to get me out of the state – they even closed the terminal to all others until I had boarded the plane. It was serious business I can assure you and I have the scars to prove it, (both internal and external) Hence I do not take the fact lightly that JA is lying about being abused by Travis.

were they in the house though? the days between the 4 and when his friends found his body? surely not?

Nienna

03/20/2013 at 4:10 pm

Scratch that! It’s on!

Tracey A

03/20/2013 at 4:11 pm

Hey MMD – How are you feeling? Hope your migraine has gone!

Tracey A

03/20/2013 at 4:14 pm

Hmmmm….first observation is that Jodi missed the memo to dress in pink to match her attorney.

Nienna

03/20/2013 at 4:14 pm

Syntara :
were they in the house though? the days between the 4 and when his friends found his body? surely not?

They were in the house but thought he had left. They were in and out… working, hanging out with girl friends and house sitting. Travis and his roommates rarely even talked to each other from what people say.

Don’t know. His door was closed and locked. Central air condition????? Plus the bathroom door could have been closed as well??????

MMD

03/20/2013 at 4:22 pm

Flores said he could smell the decomp as soon as he opened the door but we don’t know whether he mean’t the front door or the bedroom door.

Nienna

03/20/2013 at 4:23 pm

Syntara :
one quickie…. no way to put this delicately…. how come they didn’t smell anything?

Wondered that myself. When Mimi went in the day they found him, she said that it did smell. Someone said something about the dog. Dog/Death – one wouldn’t think so.

But Flores found nothing wrong with them. So I wonder if it is possible that it was gradual and maybe they kinda grew acustom to it. Nobody really stated how strong the odor was. And I also question (never having smelled a dead body) if because he was drained of blood and washed thoroughly, that maybe the odor wasn’t as strong as it could have been. IMO – Definitely not trained in this matter!

MMD

03/20/2013 at 4:23 pm

cause and effect – wonder if Dr. Quack and his idiocy gave me my migraine???????? wonder if there is any correlation??????? or just coincidence?????? although we know there are never coincidences in murder trials!

Syntara :
Ive had two life threatening experience… one held at gunpoint in Turkey, one almost drowned. Let me tell you I remember every moment and every decision I made to get myself out of both situations

Not something you forget easily – That is why this is facade is so infuriating

why is she giggling??? does she think this is a joke… oh hang on it is!!! thats why she’s laughing… now I get it! hahahahha she just let out a huge sigh???
hahaha she is prepped between visits by Wormi then she’s ready to give the right answers to Dodgy.

Does anyone else look at him and see that rainbow wig and that glowing red nose??? I can’t see him any other way now.

She is now lying… but no it doesnt get weighed into the end result. who cares if someone is lying on a psych test… doesnt make any difference apparently.

Tracey ASyntara I see him wearing the rainbow wig and red nose while reading Phycological Testing for Dummies (luv the spelling on that)!

hahah me toooooooooooo

PK

03/20/2013 at 5:24 pm

Not to insult anybody, maybe, but from my limited experience derived over 70 years, I’m of the opinion that psychologists/psychiatrists are either mentally off from the start and are attracted to what I consider to be non-science to explain their abnormal “condition” or in the alternative are made crazy after subjecting a once normal person to mind numbing voodoo science over a prolonged period resulting in a doctorate degree.

WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial
Willmott objects to Juan’s speaking objections. It’s an all out objectionathon in here today

Marilyn N

03/20/2013 at 5:30 pm

PK :
Not to insult anybody, maybe, but from my limited experience derived over 70 years, I’m of the opinion that psychologists/psychiatrists are either mentally off from the start and are attracted to what I consider to be non-science to explain their abnormal “condition” or in the alternative are made crazy after subjecting a once normal person to mind numbing voodoo science over a prolonged period resulting in a doctorate degree.

Agree 100% PK!!

Observer

03/20/2013 at 5:30 pm

It makes me sick to my stomach to even listen to Dr. Fraud talking about the lies Jodi told him which invalidated any diagnosis he would have had anyway. I am waiting for the juror questions.

Everything Dr. Samuels is talking about: fear, flight or fight, a victim grabbing a knife and fighting for their life during the attack applies to Travis, not Jodi.

It was Travis who felt fear as Jodi plunged the knife into his heart and lungs and he began coughing and choking on his own blood.

It was Travis who tried to grab the knife as Jodi stabbed him repeatedly in the belly and chest as evidenced by defensive wounds on his hands.

It was Travis who tried to get away as he crawled or staggered bent over to the sink where he spit up blood evidenced by the blood on the sink.

It was Travis who was attempting to escape from Jodi as she chased him, stabbing him between the shoulder blades, neck and back of head as he crawled to the sink and spit up blood as evidenced by the stab wounds on his back, neck and head.

It was Travis who was the victim of abuse as Jodi stomped on his feet and slit his throat and then dragged his dead body back to the sink where she shot him in the head.

She brutally slaughters Travis and then this hired gun assists her to slaughter his reputation and memory.

This is not justice. An eye for an eye is the only justice for a cold blooded murderer like her.

Marilyn N

03/20/2013 at 5:30 pm

JM has had enough. He is going to object to everything now.

Marilyn N

03/20/2013 at 5:31 pm

We have been on this garbage for how many days now? And what does it have to do
with the slaughter?

Probably Vodka in her water jug! She’s probably had enough of this side show! I now we had to pop the cork ourselves!!

MMD

03/20/2013 at 5:41 pm

Well Dr. Quack is giving me nightmares and so is JA………….. damn the whole defense team gives me intrusive thoughts 😦

Tracey A

03/20/2013 at 5:42 pm

Oh Gawd! Rearranging my sock drawer is more exciting than this!!

MMD

03/20/2013 at 5:42 pm

Dr. QUack is in an alternative reality!!!!!

Marilyn N

03/20/2013 at 5:43 pm

MMD :
Well Dr. Quack is giving me nightmares and so is JA………….. damn the whole defense team gives me intrusive thoughts

How’s your head holding up?

Schaeffer

03/20/2013 at 5:43 pm

This is a serious question: How many question are there, and is she going to go over each one individually? Are the jurors unable to read the answers of “yes” and “no”? Are they unable to interpret same? How is this allowed?

Yep – itsz down the rabbit whole again I’m at the mad hatters tea party

feeling irritable once a week?????? Ive been irritable constantly since Dodgy took the stand!!!

MMD

03/20/2013 at 5:48 pm

Incarceration will give you every one of those symptoms. I know it would me!

Schaeffer

03/20/2013 at 5:48 pm

Do you think all of this nonsense — and I mean ALL of it — would have been allowed if the jury had been sequestered? Is it normal conduct for a defense attorney/defense team to just go though what they every question exactly as planned, attention and jury reaction be damned? I cannot believe these defense attorneys are so dense they cannot recognize they are losing the jury.

Poor Juan baby. I feel so sad for him He has so much integrity and they are doing this to him.

Marilyn N

03/20/2013 at 5:53 pm

Boy, Jodi is adjusting her glasses just about every 5 seconds!!

Ci Ci's Circle

03/20/2013 at 5:55 pm

Ok….live Wild About Trial…..court back in session at 3:45 as Counsels review the jury questions. I guess JW is done….we tuned her out the last 30 minutes and just started drinking! She drove us to drink!!

Dr. Fraud is lying again. He tells Martinez he spoke to no one but Jodi but he tells Wilmott he spoke to her brother and he told him a stranger attacked her at 13.

omg that is so true he said he spoke to no other family or friends Im almost sure thats what he said.

LadyInRed

03/20/2013 at 5:56 pm

Looking forward to hearing the jury questions! Hopefully we’ll see the last of Dr. Fog/Fraud today! Have been trying to keep up somewhat via the Twitter feed, but haven’t had much luck this afternoon (busy day!)

NancyB

03/20/2013 at 5:57 pm

Syntara – Dr Dodgy! Love it 😉

LadyInRed

03/20/2013 at 5:58 pm

Ci Ci’s Circle :
Ok….live Wild About Trial…..court back in session at 3:45 as Counsels review the jury questions. I guess JW is done….we tuned her out the last 30 minutes and just started drinking! She drove us to drink!!

seriously Im so getting a cocktail right now and it’s 6am in the morning here! I rarely drink!!

NancyB

03/20/2013 at 6:00 pm

Schaeffer :
This is a serious question: How many question are there, and is she going to go over each one individually? Are the jurors unable to read the answers of “yes” and “no”? Are
they unable to interpret same? How is this allowed?

49 Question/Statements on PSD. I have no idea why this is allowed – way overboard – like an entire new direct.

MMD

03/20/2013 at 6:02 pm

No one on the jury is taking notes. She totally lost them!

MMD

03/20/2013 at 6:03 pm

janeto :
Lol! You all are so hilarious!!! Made my day being with my peeps!!

Observer: THANK YOU! I thought I had lost my mind when I heard Doozie make that statement about her brother when she was 13. Wonder who was holding the knife?WTH, this is a trial of LIES!!!
Doozie needs to be gone already. Pleaseeee

Clink to you @Janeto! Just got home from work and am enjoying a glass of wine myself! Bet Dr. Dodgy wishes he could have one before the jury questions! 😉

Tracey A

03/20/2013 at 6:07 pm

Well, I’m gonna head to Costco. Need to stock up on water as you just never know when it’ll come in handy. I’ll pick up some booze Syntara . You and CiCi shouldn’t be the only ones trying to pass out! LOL! See ya soon!

OK…. did we really just see that??? I’m in the valley of my disocciative amnesia and think I might have imagined something but not sure what it was

MMD

03/20/2013 at 6:08 pm

COme on folks – Beth only needs 18 more signatures!!!

/www.change.org/petitions/hln-tv-keep-beth-karas

NancyB

03/20/2013 at 6:08 pm

Syntara :Dr. Fraud is lying again. He tells Martinez he spoke to no one but Jodi but he tells Wilmott he spoke to her brother and he told him a stranger attacked her at 13.
omg that is so true he said he spoke to no other family or friends Im almost sure thats
what he said.

THANKS! I thought I was going nuts! So he did tell us he didn’t interview anyone right? Did the whale ever bring up this assault when she was 13 on direct and I missed it?

No in fact Im 90% sure the answer to the question about anything like that happening under the age of somewhere in the teens was no.. or was that the one for under 5? Anyhow there was no reference to it at all.

Schaeffer

03/20/2013 at 6:12 pm

I think Wilmott forgot her Easter bonnet to go with the rest of her outfit.

Clink to you @Janeto! Just got home from work and am enjoying a glass of wine myself! Bet Dr. Dodgy wishes he could have one before the jury questions!

LOL!! I bet he does!! He’s gonna need it!!!! I just got home from work too! LONG day!! But I laughed at all the comments! My phone was buzzing all day long. at one time I had 50 comments!! Couldn’t catch up! Couldn’t wait till I got home! And yes donchais, I’m getting all my e-mails! Making up for yesterday!!!! LOL!!!

MMD

03/20/2013 at 6:13 pm

Chrissie A :
Twitpost:
During the recess JA will perform magic by pulling that stolen folder out of her posterior while keeping her pants on

LOL So Chrissie, tell us more about the DirecTV guy thinking you’re a perv???????

The twitter feed for #jodiarias has some hilarious posts this afternoon; hope I can successfully paste this one.
If I get fatal blood clots from spending so many hours sitting watching this trial, I want #jodiarias charged with my murder

Janeto good to have you back! Thankyou for the info 🙂 Doesnt sound like Im missing out much on that one.

MMD

03/20/2013 at 6:19 pm

LadyInRed :
The twitter feed for #jodiarias has some hilarious posts this afternoon; hope I can successfully paste this one.
If I get fatal blood clots from spending so many hours sitting watching this trial, I want #jodiarias charged with my murder

LadyInRed If I get fatal blood clots from spending so many hours sitting watching this trial, I want #jodiarias charged with my murder

LOL!!

Janeto

03/20/2013 at 6:25 pm

LadyInRed :
The twitter feed for #jodiarias has some hilarious posts this afternoon; hope I can successfully paste this one.
If I get fatal blood clots from spending so many hours sitting watching this trial, I want #jodiarias charged with my murder

That’s too f’n funny!!!!!!

Nancy Pennington

03/20/2013 at 6:25 pm

Hey Chrissie A: Nothing to do with JA and her self defense case but we have a 3 yr. old Boston and a 1 yr. old Frenchie. Both are the sweetest and best-est little dogs. Just had to get that out there.

MMD re the butt action.. You’re right it’d probably get lost up there.

LadyInRed

03/20/2013 at 6:27 pm

I’m seeing some posts on the Twitterfeed about Dodgy testifying as pasted below … WTH?? Hope JM jumps on this in rebuttal??? Any of our peeps got info on this??
Samuels says: #JodiArias accosted, knife to throat, at age 13 (per info from her brother). Who did it – not said.

Janeto

03/20/2013 at 6:28 pm

Syntara :Janeto good to have you back! Thankyou for the info Doesnt sound like Im missing out much on that one.

Thanks!!! Family still visiting, but I’m catching up when I can….going to dinner soon. Gonna have a BIG drink, and toast to all my peeps!!!!

Chrissie A :
Twitpost:
During the recess JA will perform magic by pulling that stolen folder out of her posterior while keeping her pants on

LOL So Chrissie, tell us more about the DirecTV guy thinking you’re a perv???????

As I was playing the spoof video of Nancy Grace (at a pretty good volume) she yelled out ANAL SEX just as he walked past me, my hubby and I snickered but hubby left the room saying you should turn the porn off now sweetheart – later I caught cable guy trying to glimpse at my screen – I just hope he doesn’t have a questionnaire to fill out about us/me during his visit! I guess I’ll know if they start soliciting me about their porn channels – lol

Serious @Syntara; Michael Kiefer (journalist) is tweeting the trial for azcentral.com. Wish I could have heard/seen that clip!! Have any of the talking heads on HLN, etc. addressed the pill popping from yesterday, as well as the “hidden” folder?

Janeto

03/20/2013 at 6:40 pm

😦 sorry peeps….must go to dinner with family! I will toast you all with a LARGE pepsi I!!!!
Ha ha! Some strong drink eh? Maybe I’ll get a coke w/ rum instead! Just for you guys!!! Ha Ha!!!! soso & virtual hugs all around!!!

Janeto

03/20/2013 at 6:41 pm

Janeto :
sorry peeps….must go to dinner with family! I will toast you all with a LARGE pepsi I!!!!
Ha ha! Some strong drink eh? Maybe I’ll get a coke w/ rum instead! Just for you guys!!! Ha Ha!!!! soso & virtual hugs all around!!!

OOPS!! see, Pepsi is too strong for me! I meant XOXO!!!

LadyInRed

03/20/2013 at 6:42 pm

Janeto :
sorry peeps….must go to dinner with family! I will toast you all with a LARGE pepsi I!!!!
Ha ha! Some strong drink eh? Maybe I’ll get a coke w/ rum instead! Just for you guys!!! Ha Ha!!!! soso & virtual hugs all around!!!

Syntara :
Michael Kiefer @michaelbkiefer
A phone with the ringtone of a braying jackass just went off in the gallery. The bailiff escorted a young lady out of the Arias courtroom.
Too funny
Serious or tongue in cheek?

Who knows LOL

Ci Ci's Circle

03/20/2013 at 6:45 pm

Ok…we have a question for anyone…..When JA was arrested at her grandparents home and the knives were found in her trunk do you know if they were checked to see if any of them could have been the murder weapon……knowing Det. Flores as we have seen, we’re sure they probably did, but is there a report online that we could read for ourselves?

Oh….we hit Post before we were done…..darn wine!!….Was there any testimony by the Prosecution about what was found on her when she was arrested? We don’t remember…..surprise…surprise!

Chrissie A

03/20/2013 at 6:46 pm

Nancy Pennington :
Hey Chrissie A: Nothing to do with JA and her self defense case but we have a 3 yr. old Boston and a 1 yr. old Frenchie. Both are the sweetest and best-est little dogs. Just had to get that out there.

How can you not mention Bostons or Frenchies for that matter! Aren’t they just adorable, very smart – not yappers, but very territorial/protective, handsome and just the right size! Ever since my Mum bought us one (way back when) we are stuck on the breed 🙂

I cant say about the arrest my knowledge is flat line… burt in trial no. Cos I knew nothing about it and all Ive seen is the trial before joining this forum.. apart from the 48 hours program that originally got me interested in this creature.

In all seriousness . . .The message Jodi tried (unsuccessfully) to smuggle out in the magazine was

“You fucked up what you told my attorney the next day, directly contradicts what I’ve been saying for over a year, get down here ASAP and see me before you talk to them again and before you testify so we can fix this, interview was excellent! Must talk ASAP!”

I know it was speculated she was trying to get this message to Matt McCartney, but it could just as easily have been to Dr. Samuels, given how their testimony not only dovetailed, but was almost verbatim. It would be very interesting to know who coined the term” fog” first. Good Lord, can you imagine the fallout if this could be corroborated?

Fog is an acronym in some borderline fringe circles in somewhat dodgy psychotherapy circles for the state of Fear Obligation Guilt. A serious state that is more accurately represented as a symptom of PTSD.

Ci Ci’s Circle :Ok…we have a question for anyone…..When JA was arrested at her grandparents home and the knives were found in her trunk do you know if they were checked to see if any of them could have been the murder weapon……knowing Det. Flores as we have seen, we’re sure they probably did, but is there a report online that we could read for ourselves?

I’ve never seen any report about the knives but they weren’t the murder weapons or they would be part of the evidence. The murder weapons were never found. The knife or knives would have been damaged or broken. She got rid of the knife or knives when she got rid of her grandfather’s gun. Then replaced them with two new knives and a 9mm gun.

Family of Law :
I wonder if Jodi has plans to get revenge on Dr. Toad face for incompetence?

He’ll probably be on her list, and I’m sure she has one

Chrissie, I’ve followed your comments, and you have such a good grasp of the facts, and lots of fab intel- So I was wondering why you think she bought. 9mm after she killed Travis- I don’t buy the camping story…

Sorry I only just saw the post! Thank you for your kind words but I feel that there are many who are more informed on here than I!

Upon her arrest she was packing boxes to leave her grandparents home, had another rental car where the 9mm gun was located plus knives hidden inside a box of books inside the home. As she had her same weapons of choice, I believe that she was going to murder again. My mind immediately goes to Maria (Mimi) Hall who Travis invited to Cancun. But she is so warped it’s hard to second guess exactly who she would go after.

Makes complete sense to me, now if only Juan can get him to slip up on that !

Nancy Pennington

03/20/2013 at 8:29 pm

My fault but I watched part of JVM. I swear if I hear one more def atty say “it only takes one juror” I will throw something at my TV. Probably my barf bag.

Family of Law

03/20/2013 at 11:46 pm

Chrissie A- you and all the others smart peeps here have provided lots of great info (and lots of laughs!). I think the same is possible re: JA’s shiny new 9mm and 2 knives. I’ve read that the knives found in the 2nd rental car were excluded as the murder weapons on 6/4- which made me think she had others on her hit list. Another road trip was in order…. Mimi was likely at the top of her list.

LadyInRed

03/21/2013 at 12:35 am

janeto :
@ladyinred- hell no! Those barf bags r for TA supporters only! They can throw up on her side with their own! Lol!!

ROF! Just hope the courtroom air is delightfully fragrant tomorrow @janeto! Hard enough to hear all their BS, much less smell it! It will be a Juanderful Thursday!

Observer :
Syntara, all the pictures on the camera show is her posing nude and him posing nude in sexual poses. There are no pictures of them actally having sex.

You’re gonna need a barf bag when you see her vajayjay, it’s nasty, I don’t ever want to see that thing again. It’s no wonder Travis went in the backdoor.

Too funny!!! And I totally agree!!!! That thing should never be seen,much less photographed…LOL!!!

Trial watcher

03/21/2013 at 2:41 am

All of your posts r great and WOW what a lot of info to take in. Syntara u really have a take on the scenario that took place at Travis’s. I hope he didn’t say “Finish it”, I can’t bear to think of JA getting any more satisfaction at that moment. The interview with Flores and the remarks she made do sound so telling. I’ve missed a lot of this trial lately(sick 89 yr.old aunt)
so TY Donchais for this site! What would I do without u all?
just a little question? Does anyone have any idea as to how much longer this can go on?
Does the state when in a trial that they’re covering the expenses of each side give the prosecutor a timeline that they would like to see it over and done?
I’ve seen where Arias’s defense has reached close to a million already,never mind the state’s cost until now so surely there’s a desire to c a speedy trial or at least an effort
to do so….
wasting time and money on this doctor(if u can call him one) is ridiculous and it’s been enough bs testiphony that we need to call it a day and get it over with.
My question is this: Why do these jurors need to ask any MORE questions and especially of the Doctor, it scares me to think that the jury still trying to figure it out. Have they been sleeping through this crap or what??
she’s GUILTY!!! give her the DP and let’s move onto the next nut!!
There’s a lot of them out there!!

Bethany

03/21/2013 at 2:45 am

Ritanita: Writing in pencil for these endeavors is not very professional at all!

I agree, If I’m correct in what I have learned through my education, hand scoring in these tests is highly discouraged as it can cause a lot if errors. Many professionals suggest using a computer or a machine designed to score the answers automatically when scanned in. This allows for more accuracy in the results. Hence the change in numbers on Jodi’s test scores. This just proves how incompetent this quack truly is.