Was wrong. If November's numbers are about the same as December's numbers (seeing as how the DS has a much stronger holiday line-up than the PSP, I'm guessing they will be about the same if not the DS doing even better), then the DS will have sold more units than the PSP.

Those are surprisingly good numbers for the PSP, especially considering Nintendo has been absolutely dominating the handheld market for the last 15-20 years. Both #s look good, which speaks well for portable gaming this season. I'm not sure why people thought the PSP was going to "crush" the DS, but to match pace and stay fairly close, that's respectable for sony's first entry into the handheld world.

Realistically though, aside from making this post just do do some "rabble-rouser'y", both the DS and PSP have pretty good numbers. Competition is good in the video game business! It can only benefit both systems.

Damn misguided that's the second post in reference to working for gamestop and I really can't hold it back anymore.. Is it all it's made out to be? Decent pay? I'm thinking of applying.

The DS may be out selling the PSP (it being over $100 less than the PSP being one of the main factors obviously) but look at everything the PSP can do that the DS can't - graphics, browse the internet, do "real 3d" games, play mp3s, and watch movies.I've had both systems (going to be getting another PSP after the holidays again, just wish Sony would get with the game and drop that redicilous price.. I'm more tempted to buy an Xbox 360 core than a $250 psp if they are right next to eachother on the shelf) ) and the size isn't that big of a difference. The psp looks really sleek, and if you get the logitech hard case, it's easy to transport around. A lot more games for the PSP will be supporting online play out of the box than for the DS. Man I'm really starting to miss my old PSP.

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Realistically though, aside from making this post just do do some "rabble-rouser'y", both the DS and PSP have pretty good numbers. Competition is good in the video game business! It can only benefit both systems.

I agree completely. I don't get the mentality that one system has to "win". I think they are both good systems that serve different needs/markets/tastes. Personally, like Roguetad, I think the fact that Sony has a handheld machine that even comes close to Nintendo's numbers is a victory of sorts for Sony. After all, what was their percentage of the handheld market before the PSP came out?

In answer to corruptrelic's question about working at Gamestop, I had been at Barnes and Noble, and being in a smaller retail environment was appealing to me. I also had the tremendous fortune to go to work for a manager whose abilities I greatly admire and that happens to be an excellent teacher. I made the switch to a position with a lot more responsibility for the same money. Some people would consider that a bad thing, but for me it was just right.

I prefer the PSP, but love Nintendo.. and I just dont get the appeal of Animal Crossing.

Good, at least someone else does . I don't mean to attack the game, but I just don't see the appeal. I guess if I wanted to play a sim game, I'd start with the Hugh Hefner one, and even that looks dull. So many more DS games look better to me at least.

I may grab the DS on its second revision. Nintendo always refines the products, so when the DS is half the size, I may be in. We'll see. Then it would be more portable to me then the PSP.

Paging Andrew Mallon (and probably Scott to argue). I thought you said that the PSP was crushing the DS in sales? And how in November the PSP sales would pick up

I've been called out! I'm happy to be wrong, as I'd like to see the DS outsell the PSP. It has a better line up of games, quite frankly. I just didn't think the DS had strong enough appeal in North America to pull ahead of the PSP and the array of EA Sports ports in its library. We'll see if it can continue to do so, especially if Sony starts dropping the price of the PSP next year.

Anyone know what the November tie ratio for the two consoles was? It'd be interesting to see howthe two handhelds are doing in software sales.

Man, when I was in the game store earlier today I looked at the back of the box of GTA:Stories, Ape Escape (PSP), Smackdown vs Raw (PSP), SSX on Tour (PSP). Anyway, I was looking and I realized how great the graphics were and how I really wanted to play them! Then I looked at the feature lists on the back of these games and they all listed:"PSP Exclusive: Dramatic Slowdown Effects!""PSP Exclusive: Mega Loading Time!""PSP Exclusive: Half the Features of the Console Version!"

Man, when I was in the game store earlier today I looked at the back of the box of GTA:Stories, Ape Escape (PSP), Smackdown vs Raw (PSP), SSX on Tour (PSP). Anyway, I was looking and I realized how great the graphics were and how I really wanted to play them! Then I looked at the feature lists on the back of these games and they all listed: "PSP Exclusive: Dramatic Slowdown Effects!" "PSP Exclusive: Mega Loading Time!" "PSP Exclusive: Half the Features of the Console Version!"

I then put the boxes down and ran away.

If you could have muscled your way through the 6-year-olds to what you thought was the DS games, you may have been shocked to find out that you were actually looking at the N64 games but couldn't tell the difference.

Man, when I was in the game store earlier today I looked at the back of the box of GTA:Stories, Ape Escape (PSP), Smackdown vs Raw (PSP), SSX on Tour (PSP). Anyway, I was looking and I realized how great the graphics were and how I really wanted to play them! Then I looked at the feature lists on the back of these games and they all listed:"PSP Exclusive: Dramatic Slowdown Effects!""PSP Exclusive: Mega Loading Time!""PSP Exclusive: Half the Features of the Console Version!"

Man, when I was in the game store earlier today I looked at the back of the box of GTA:Stories, Ape Escape (PSP), Smackdown vs Raw (PSP), SSX on Tour (PSP). Anyway, I was looking and I realized how great the graphics were and how I really wanted to play them! Then I looked at the feature lists on the back of these games and they all listed:"PSP Exclusive: Dramatic Slowdown Effects!""PSP Exclusive: Mega Loading Time!""PSP Exclusive: Half the Features of the Console Version!"

I then put the boxes down and ran away.

"PSP Exclusive: DRAMATIC analog NUB!"

How could I forget about the nub?? It makes controlling games like FPSs so easy!

You are forgetting the DS's unique touch screen support, that's never been done before, and is incredibly orginal!

Well, unless you've seen a PDA in the past 10 years I guess, then its not so new, original, or exciting. Nevermind.

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If you could have muscled your way through the 6-year-olds to what you thought was the DS games, you may have been shocked to find out that you were actually looking at the N64 games but couldn't tell the difference.

Or GBA games!

Enjoy your unique, never before seen, exciting, fresh, DS games, with the crisp high resolution graphics on two screens, making the PS2 and 360 look old school! Enjoy the incredible sound effects, music and movies the games have too!

If I can find it I'll post the link where Sony said they expected to sell some 12 million(might be too high) units this holiday season. Numbers clearly show that won't happen.

What you are all missing is the fact that the GBA outsold both of the machines COMBINED.

So argue all the silly points you want, GBA is still the overlord of portable gaming.

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