A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

In a recent press conference, President Obama remarked, "If I had a city, it would look just like Detroit."

Jesse,, I've been reading and watching these for awhile.I'm assuming that they are going in the Manley,,please post your impressions after you've had time to evaluate them.I'm interested in a quad,or maybe an octet,,but at those prices,it'll be awhile.Good luck and have fun--george

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

In a recent press conference, President Obama remarked, "If I had a city, it would look just like Detroit."

Short review of Shuguang Treasure 300B-Z« on: Today at 03:33:53 PM »QuoteHello members - I discovered a great (maybe the greatest) 300B tube and wanted to share a short review with you (I published it few minutes ago on Audiogon)...Here we go:I am an owner of VAC Renaissance 70/70 amplifier that I had for the past 12 years. The set-up of my audio system is quite minimalistic and I am so happy with it that I did not change any major components for several years with exception of the digital source.System: Martin Logan original CLS IIA speakers with updated power supply, two Marti Logan Depth subwoofers, Yamamura Millennium 5000 interconnects, Stealth Ultimate Ribbon speaker cables and APL modded Denon 3910 CD player.I am so familiar with the sound of my system, that I am able to discern any changes generated by different cables or low level tubes. This leads me to the subject of this review: 300B output tubes.Shuguang Treasure ?Black Bottle? 300B-Z is my third set of tubes, the previous ones being VAC tested Golden Dragon and JJ/Tesla. I would hesitate to write this review if the difference in the sound of the system after installation of Shuguang Treasure 300B-Z was not so profound.Original Golden Dragon tubes sounded nice, warm and musical ? unfortunately they did not last for a long time and after 2 years started to sound quite dull. JJ/Teslas were much cleaner sounding in my opinion, although not as musical as Golden Dragons.Enter the Shuguang Treasure 300B-Z: it?s a revelation!This tube does everything right ? the bass is powerful and tight, midrange smooth and liquid, upper frequencies silver and open. It is amazingly musical, with exquisite tonal balance.What surprised me most was Shuguang?s presentation of space ? I did not expect that a set of tubes can have such an impact on the soundstage, increasing perception of depth and width and allowing musical images to float freely without any sense of confinement.As extra bonus you get the light show at night: beautiful purple-bluish glow emanating from the top of black glass enclosures, much nicer looking than a traditional fireplace?Shuguang Treasure 300B-Z is available from Grant Fidelity in Canada (www.grantfidelity.com). Grant Fidelity provides tube matching and excellent service, immediate responses to emails and telephone calls.

I really want to try the KT-88s.........when James gets them in I hope to be one of the lucky ones.....

If you guys have PayPal call James SSOOOOOOOON because the order is almost complete.

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Ok, I've got a little over 100 hours on the Shuguang Treasure 6CA7-Z's. About the only thing I want to say about them right now is that I've never heard a tube go thru so many changes.

Political Correctness...defined

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

In a recent press conference, President Obama remarked, "If I had a city, it would look just like Detroit."

OK Jesse, not you have my curiosity peaked. I knew tubes have a burn in period where there will be some tonal differences, but your statement makes it sound like these tubes go through a pretty radical change. At least give us a hint, change for the better or worse?

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How long a minute is, depends on what side of the bathroom door you're on.

Skip, they seem to flip-flop a bit, but in general, they are getting better.

Political Correctness...defined

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

In a recent press conference, President Obama remarked, "If I had a city, it would look just like Detroit."