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For the people that were not happy with the Luke storyline, what would you have preferred? I'm thinking if he would have left with Rey and trained her on the way and confronted Kylo and then gets killed. Wouldn't it have been just the same as Obi Wan?

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Snoke's mind link between Ren and Rey leads them to the Island. Luke and Snoke fight to an incredible stalemate, each one showing their true mastery of the force. Ren and Rey face off again. The Millenium Falcon is destroyed, Chewie dies in the battle, and Rey and Luke barely escape in his X-Wing after Rey is housed out by a powered up Kylo Ren who was feigning vulnerability to help the mind link find their location. This is about the same time as Rey leaves the island in TLJ. Final battle ensues later. Luke kills Snoke, but Kylo kills Luke and Leia, and Rey and The Resistance barely escape.

For the people that were not happy with the Luke storyline, what would you have preferred? I'm thinking if he would have left with Rey and trained her on the way and confronted Kylo and then gets killed. Wouldn't it have been just the same as Obi Wan?

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I wouldve had him train her. Instead if Luke leaving yoda, she stays and perhaps crylo or snoke go to the island. Rey gets captured, Luke is left for dead, movie ends, with the good guys losing.

Empire esque but there are hardly any movies where tge bad guys win. Why not have star wars rekindle the fluttering flame.

For the people that were not happy with the Luke storyline, what would you have preferred? I'm thinking if he would have left with Rey and trained her on the way and confronted Kylo and then gets killed. Wouldn't it have been just the same as Obi Wan?

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Living at the end to continue to train Rey in the next movie and complete his storyline and to include him in redefining the Jedi. Or make the Luke prequel where he's dead.

In the last thing i believe I will say about this film for a long while, I believe there is still redemption possible. In the third movie, things could happen that redeem this movie. It wasn't poorly made, new/not such hardcore fans kind of liked it, and a few twists and explanations could redeem it, and even make people change some of their opinion on it.

The big reveal in the first trilogy was in the second movie, they could put a couple big reveals in the third this time. It's not too late Disney, I sense the conflict, you can still do what's right and turn to the light.

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what would be the big reveal though there are redeeming qualities to the film. People dont like ren as the bad guy and no one wants him to be good after killing han.

Rey wins is the big reveal because shes unstoppable. If you make her lose well thats dumb to end a trilogy.

Really what could become of the third now? Snoke still alive because he was an astral form the whole time? Thats dumb too because his body didnt disappear

Ruined Star Wars for me in a way. Saw the original trilogy in the theaters. Been a big part of my mythos. Seeing this monstrosity......made me lose interest in the series as a whole, though Im sure I will see ep 9. Cant help myself. But where do they go from here? Rey will end up defeating Kylo or Kylo will turn good to help her and redeem himself against some other big bad(bring back Snoke please). All is well in the universe and the Jedi will start again with all the younglings(Disney consumers). Good guys win. Blah blah. Rey is like Space Jesus. Hell, shes more powerful than Jesus. Shes still young and had virtually no training. Imagine when shes Lukes age? Shell be ALL POWERFUL MARY SUE! Dumb dumb dumb.

Ruined Star Wars for me in a way. Saw the original trilogy in the theaters. Been a big part of my mythos. Seeing this monstrosity......made me lose interest in the series as a whole, though Im sure I will see ep 9. Cant help myself. But where do they go from here? Rey will end up defeating Kylo or Kylo will turn good to help her and redeem himself against some other big bad(bring back Snoke please). All is well in the universe and the Jedi will start again with all the younglings(Disney consumers). Good guys win. Blah blah. Rey is like Space Jesus. Hell, shes more powerful than Jesus. Shes still young and had virtually no training. Imagine when shes Lukes age? Shell be ALL POWERFUL MARY SUE! Dumb dumb dumb.

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The twist might be that she turns to the darkside. She was a little angry in that snoke throne room. I feel like they wont touch on that shit.

I know you like that guy but if you check that last jedi thread on 2 different occasions i said something about star wars and he jumped on me. The first time i ignored him the 2nd time i fucked with him back

Hmm, since TLJ shows he still has good in him (he didnt kill his mother) I think he should possibly take reign for the future gen of jedi and be somewhat a teacher for the padawans. But he needs some sort of redemption arc because him dying to Rey is simply boring and predictable as fuck. Maybe Snoke isn't exactly dead and he kills Rey and Kylo avenges her and returns to the good guys? I dont fucking know Im just spit balling man. Im just not buying into the whole REY VS KYLO main event as the trilogies climax.

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Rey and Kylo as main event is just dumb. They killed that possibility in the first movie
Rey beat him in the first, she SAVES him in the 2nd, and then in the 3rd--where she presumably will know more about the Force via the jedi bibles Ren is going to put up a fight against her? No.
He can't be the big bad, and he can't kill Han and then redeem himself.
He didn't kill Snoke because Snoke was evil, he did it to gain power and be his own master. Lol you cant call the female protagonist that is trying to save your worthless life "nothing that came from drunk nothings" and then be a good guy. (And didn't he kill Luke's padawans?)
Completely irrideemable.

For the people that were not happy with the Luke storyline, what would you have preferred? I'm thinking if he would have left with Rey and trained her on the way and confronted Kylo and then gets killed. Wouldn't it have been just the same as Obi Wan?

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Almost anything would have been better than what they did. Too much time was wasted on making Luke grumpy old man, instead of having him actually do anything that was useful. Even a retread and making him go out like Obi would have been fine. It's not like TFA or TLJ was against revisiting old themes and ideas.

Luke as Supreme master of the light vs Snoke supreme master of the dark
Luke ACTUALLY trains Rey
Luke and Rey, or Leia confront Ren together to either reach him or apprehennd him
Leia dies and Luke takes over as leader of the rebellion

This is off the top of my head, and it all would have been better, more satisfying, and would have made more sense than having Luke be an old, asshole, and then die from the strain of astral projection
I mean seriously, lol of all the powers of the Force one would want to see a jedi master use, where the fuck would astral projection fall on the list?

so i just spoke to this star wars nerd and i was saying the way snoke went out was horrible and they should of had and epic fight scene with rey and kylo vs snoke or maybe if luke wasnt a bitch all 3 vs snoke. Have luke sacrafice himself in an epic way. instead we got rey and kylo vs hench men we have no fear of them losing because they are nobodies

His response to me was he loved when snoke went out and i didnt understand that fight scene because it was straight samurai.