Is like saying it costs Apple money when an Apple Store employee shows a customer the new iMac. All part of doing business which everyone here understands and doesn't need to be told in a condescending way.

And by the way Apple still soldered both the GPU and CPU to the logic board. No sockets like in other make notebooks. They more then likely do that with all there system, notebooks and iMac, except maybe the Mac Pro line, which is dead anyway.

And by the way Apple still soldered both the GPU and CPU to the logic board. No sockets like in other make notebooks. They more then likely do that with all there system, notebooks and iMac, except maybe the Mac Pro line, which is dead anyway.

Which 'Other' notebooks use socketed CPU and GPU, we'd like to know.

Yup, they do, I have repaired many of them, shame it's never the processor that needs it though.

This is a reply to the original post so I do not upset any recent commentators.

This is an Apple Discussion Board and I have spent part of my day deleting emails forwarded to me from this discussion. Unfortunately, most of them seem to be of a more personal nature that do nothing to support a case against Apple or help anyone with anything. Maybe those concerned should move over to Twitter or similar to continue their discussion.

Whilst I am here, I can say that the Apple "test" at an Authorised Reseller cost me £55. The same as it cost to confirm the Seagate HD on my iMac had failed. The quoted logicboard replacement cost was £550 or so. Yes, these are prices in UK pounds - not US dollars. I had it replaced privately for £450. So those of you lucky enough to get the replacement done for $310 should consider yourselves very lucky. The nice people at Covent Garden are too far away from me here in the UK to make the trip viable.

Personally, I shall not be buying a new replacement until I do hear that some changes have been made to the logicboards. They still seem to be failing without Apple taking ownership. I have my fingers crossed that mine keeps going at least for a while. I find myself shutting it down at night and only turning on when I need it. It always stayed powered up before and just left to sleep. Again, unfortunately, I have to use Windows at work and simply hate it. An alternative brand that could run the Apple OS would be perfect but is not likely to happen.

Whilst I am here, I can say that the Apple "test" at an Authorised Reseller cost me £55. The same as it cost to confirm the Seagate HD on my iMac had failed. The quoted logicboard replacement cost was £550 or so. Yes, these are prices in UK pounds - not US dollars. I had it replaced privately for £450. So those of you lucky enough to get the replacement done for $310 should consider yourselves very lucky. The nice people at Covent Garden are too far away from me here in the UK to make the trip viable

I think you are missing the point. With most if not all other brands of notebooks, not Netbook, if the mother, Logic, board goes you can MOVE the other parts to the new motherboard. If one of those other parts fail you only have to replace the failed part. With an Apple MBP, and iMac I would suspect, if ANY part fails you have to Replace, Pay for, All of Them.

Csound1 wrote:

Shootist007 wrote:

Dell for one. I just upgrade my E6420 from an i5 to an i7 CPU.

Csound1 wrote:

Shootist007 wrote:

And by the way Apple still soldered both the GPU and CPU to the logic board. No sockets like in other make notebooks. They more then likely do that with all there system, notebooks and iMac, except maybe the Mac Pro line, which is dead anyway.

Which 'Other' notebooks use socketed CPU and GPU, we'd like to know.

Yup, they do, I have repaired many of them, shame it's never the processor that needs it though.

I suspect it was the Nvidia problem as my symptoms were similar to the many other posters. My MBP crashed, ran very hot, couldn't see the battery, extensive diagnostic tests didn't pin point the problem, in the end Apple replaced the logic board, key board, battery and ram. It was a mid 2010 15". I was lucky in getting the right person on the phone after 3 trips to the Genius' and and 2 trips to a private apple approved vender didn't fix it. It got sent to the depot in Tenn. I'm grateful apple stood behind the unit though I'm a bit gun shy now. I've got smc fan control now and I'm very careful with the over heating. My hope is if I keep it as cool as possible it won't die again for at least 3 years. I will say I'm backing everything up constantly so I've lost some confidence in MBP. I love the OS so maybe an Imac next time or I'll move back to a PC laptop, that Dell sounds attractive. Before laying down another $2000.00 I'll need some more confidence that whatever is going on with the manufacturing issues is sorted out. I also think being asked to put up an additional $300.00 to get 2 more years of coverage is a rip off when the PC's at considerably less money come with a 3 year warenty. I think apple should be very careful with the way they are treating their loyal consumers.

I read on this forum when my macbook pro 2008 graphics card went out. I had just missed the extended warranty by a month or two. I tried going into an apple store, they wanted $300 for a flat fee to fix it. Tried calling twice and apple support said it would cost more to fix it. I know all computers will fail eventually but getting only four years out of a $2000 computer that IS KNOWN TO HAVE the same defect I experienced is ridiculous. I don't bang my computer around or play system intensive video games. The coverage for a defect this severe should be covered at least 8 years.

I ended up finding a fix online where you literally bake the logic board in the oven. Took everything apart, baked that SOB, put it back together and its been working for two weeks! I love apple design and OS but a company this successful should back its products for defects in design. That being said they probably don't care too much because many people, myself included, will buy another apple after this XD

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