Forum:WinCruft: Not just another maintenance issue

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Abort, Retry, Fail?

• Detect "non-genuine" products

• Gather user information and credit card numbers

• Cripple core system components

• Deploy legal team

• Launch civil litigation

Estimated time remaining:

Forever, or if you give me a cookie, I might shorten it to an hour.

Installing Windows has never been easier easy

All you need to do is phone your local Microsoft Customer Representative, write down a very long set of numbers, type it all in, get an error message, phone our Customer Representative again, adjust a few things, get another very long set of numbers, type it all in again, install a few drivers, activate Windows again, lather, rinse and repeat.

I spent the last few hours hacking the "Windows" article aggregation template (see above), and what I found therein was a staggering amount of articles that people apparently did not put much thoughts into when they wrote them. Since these Windows/Microsoft -related drivels were pretty much based on bad ideas and even worse executions, spending time trying to save them would be a pure waste of effort (and who is going to read them anyway?) My suggestion is to simply delete these pieces of WinCruft and call it a day, but since that is just my opinion, the ideal way to deal with this issue would be to pass them all through VFD and see which ones would get huffed. In the real world, however, VFD simply does not have that much capacity to handle these entries all at once. This is why I am raising this particular issue here at Village Dump.

The word "Windows" followed by two letters is by no means a real joke in its own rights (unless it's "Windows XP", of course). A close examination of the content also reveals that the author(s) did not actually have much to say about the subject, either.

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I would say that its an idea to put them out on VFD over a period (we can take up to twenty at a time) and we'll see what we can do - there's no rush and we can thin them down if you like:)--Sycamore(Talk) 11:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I love all of them soooo much, that the only way you can rid the world of them is to slowly put them on VFD. Am I just being a prick? The answer in next weeks episode, titled Modusoperandi: No, he's not just being a prick. SirModusoperandiBoinc! 13:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

The prick's right. Just run 'em all through VFD, it's what it's there for. If you don't use VFD it might feel underappreciated and run away to Los Angelos with dreams of becoming the next big thing. Of course it'll eventually end up strung out in the gutter and turning tricks to get more crack. Next thing you know you'll see it on the news in a high speed car chase that'll probably end in a fatal crash since I have it on good authority that VFD can't drive for shit. You don't want that all on your conscience do you? DO YOU? -OptyCSucks! CUN13:33, 14 Mar

Edit conflict...

Yes, I do agree that VFD is an important process, but when it comes to situations like this it just seems to be a bit too heavyweight to be necessary. Not only that, we need people to make sure that these articles are actually on the voting system when there is space for them. Like I said, some of these articles are not even noticed enough to be worth the trouble rewriting, and by keeping them we are basically just wasting precious time bookkeeping, checking back on them and letting them clog up all available search systems just to frustrate users in general. Hence, it seems to me that what we need is people like Socky to put their hands up and say, "Hey, I really like this and that articles and here is why!" If no one is even bothered enough to do just that, then I don't really see the problem to burn them all just for a good ol' fashioned bonfire. -- The Colonel(talk) 13:42, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Add them to VFD, slowly. The counter-argument to this is, of course, "but I want to do it now." Well, tough. It'll get done. There is no danger of VFD filling up. As Yoda said to Luke Skywalker, "Patience!" Also, "Your sister, Leia is. Kiss her not."--<<>> 18:15, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Is uncyc just a load of parrots, as this entire thread, like so many, seems to just repeat what I said in the beginning. I have fears that I'm in some kind of solopsistic nightmare.--Sycamore(Talk) 19:41, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

In this case, it's more support than an echo.--<<>> 19:45, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

If so, whoever is imagining this has a shitty imagination. I know it can't be me. My imagination is amazing. I'm a pirate! Yar! See? Awesome.SirModusoperandiBoinc! 19:46, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Mine too. I'm going on an imagication this year to save money (upon the advice of an acquaintance who's big on savings). •Spang•☃•talk•23:55, 14 Mar 2009

Yes, put them out on VFD over a period (we can take up to twenty at a time) and we'll see what we can do - there's no rush and we can thin them down if you like.

Also, personally I think it's always a bad idea to delete articles we should have an article on, i.e. the ones in the "dishonourable mentions" table. In these cases it should really be a question of "fix it or make a better one yourself". Especially as many are so old that it was be easy to revert to an acceptable enough old version. Rehabilitation over the death penalty any day! •Spang•☃•talk•23:53, 14 Mar 2009

So VFD it be

No hard feelings. If people here generally agree to stick with the established procedure, then so be it. And given that there is quite a good amount of space in VFD at the moment and some buzz here to advertise the ongoing, I may as well just put a few articles there and see what will happen.

Now here is another thing. There are some articles in Category:Microsoft that I think would be nice to keep (say, those referring to the real, existing operating systems) but lack the substance to go with. I am not going to look after them all by myself, so is there any chance for a collab? (Or, in other words, are there any people other than myself willing to spend their time to work on them?) -- The Colonel(talk) 23:47, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Update: Six articles have now been listed on VFD. Those I mentioned at the beginning of this thread, however, will remain until other articles in the same category have been dealt with so I won't end up having nothing show people in those tables. -- The Colonel(talk) 00:23, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Regarding Windows 7/Windows Hitler

Would moving the article back to Windows 7 be a good idea? What about reverting to an old revision and making any Hitler references less obvious? If you are not clear on this, the current state of the article has to do with xkcd, which the article specifically mentions as a footnote. Though I admit this is sort of plagiarism...

(Note: I have had no role in editing the aforementioned article, and I am neutral as to what people are doing with it.) --Pentium5dot1t~^_^~c 18:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)