2:1 Haul Setup - Rate my rigging

I am making this thread to show people a 2:1 haul setup and also see what I can do better.Here is my 2:1 haul system setup using Chongos big wall book as my reference. A 2:1 was chosen over a 3:1 as it will save time hauling the bag and allow my gf to operate the haul system while I would be jugging. I may use a 1:1 later on when food and water have decreased on the second or third day. The Petzl prusik minding pulley is 97% efficient (theoretical) and weighs .19 lbs. The blue CMI pulley is 95.6% efficient and weighs .45 lbs. And since Im listing efficiencies, the Petzl pro Traxion has a 91% efficient pulley. I show the Petzl gold ascender in the picture since it could be used as a substitute for the WC ropeman II. I plan on mounting the Traxion to a Frost power draw or using a short dogbone with lockers on it. This should allow the Traxion to pivot and prevent binding. Now consider that the Traxion will be hauling only enough for a 2 night stay on a wall for two people and it should not be seeing any heavy static loads. This setup would be operated with a pedal system meaning that you would pump the haul line up with one leg and reset the ropeman II with the other as needed. I show petzl caving foot straps for simplicity but any set of ladders, etriers, or slings could be used. This leaves your hand to pull the haul line slack through the Traxion. Question: Am I lacking a safety backup or does the ropeman II count as the backup? I want to make sure that safety is maintained since this type of rigging is new to me. Recommendations to make this setup better are welcomed. Please state how many walls youve done so I can gauge real responses from people like me who have never been on wall.

I am a master at 2:1 hauling! I have it singing and can easily haul 250/300 up an overhanging wall.

Your rig is heavier than it needs to be. Your use of the rigging plate is good but not needed. Your pulling cord, your Zed-Cord needs to be only 5 mil Spectra. I tried the Ropeman as the bottom rope grab but the moment it takes to grab the rope gets annoying.

The Pro-Traxion, is too heavy for what you're using it for. If you want to have a bigger sheave pulley around for later 1 to 1 hauling then you're good but all the Pro-trax does is grab the rope, not really using the pulley. I use a Mini-trax in place of it.

Check out a vid of me hauling 250 pounds on the first day of the South Seas last fall.

the first one is what I based my setup off of, the second is what we used on moonlight (its a bit more confusing as both the pull rope and the haul rope are the same color). They are the same basic 2:1 ratchet, just a bit more compact. I am replacing the protrax with a microtrax to save weight and cluster.

you can also take your blue ascender and use it as the device that grabs the rope when you pull (your ropeman). and then for the actual pull cord, just tie a clove or a butterfly and clip that to your belay loop or a foot loop or whatever is appropriate for that particular haul.

Hudon, I love your protip pdfs, things are great at getting a look at a master wallrat's setup. keep em coming!

Mark, Thank you for the pictures and link. What kind of pulleys are you using with your 5 mm perlon cord? Seems like you could use really small pulleys as long as they are rated for the load. The petzl paw is just there for clarity as an anchor, I won't bring it up the wall.

I own a petzl croll. Could I use that in place of the ropeman or is its orientation a lot different from your petzl basic model which has different mounting configuration?

Do you ever haul 1:1 as your bag gets lighter? The reason I ask is that I have a mini traxion that I could swap out but I would only do so if I didn't plan on hauling 1:1. It's pulley efficiency is 71% and would suck for 1:1 hauling (at least in my head.)

You still need efficiency even with the 5 mil cord. My pulleys are an SMC Micro (the bottom one) and an SMC 2" sheave Rescue Pulley.

A Croll or a Basic would be perfect. I use a Basic.

No, I never haul 1:1. As the bags get lighter towards the top of the route, I'm getting more and more tired and weak. I've worked myself to death on walls in the past and now my goal is to enjoy them and let my techniques do the hard work for me.

The Zed Cord make a "Z"? I don't know, that's what Pete called it in his Climbing article.

That is one bummer of the system, there is no way around the fact that it's heavy. It's only 2 pounds (actual weight) and I carry it all set up in a Fish Beef Bag. I clip it to my harness and carry it for the whole pitch. Really, after a full-on big wall rack, it's a non issue.

Here is a shot of Max leading with it on the Bering Straits on the South Seas/Pacific Ocean Wall last year.

that's what i figured you did. generally speaking if i were to not carry a small water bottle i would simply replace the weight with the haul system. my only reservation is that on free climbing pitches (my aid experience has yet to exceed c2) the set up could be cumbersome and get in the way, no?

right on that is good to know. i love to quote you reference by PTPP that goes something like "we win by attrition mark. we're old bulls we don't run up and knock us off a cow, we walk up and nail them all." i reference it because it reminds me to take my time go slightly heavier than i want, and top out due to diligence. not bail due to arrogance. hence my wanting to tote a more effective hauling rig.