Sounds promising, but I will be picking up Fifa 11 on the basis of the World Cup game though and Ive pumped more hours into Fifa 10 than any footy game, clocked up about 600 matches overall.
PES is going to have to be something very special to be anything more than a rent from me, but it sounds like theyre going in the right direction though.

Surely there would be an offline mode? Considering how dodgy PES' online side is.

I really hope they make as many changes as they say they're going to make. I've been playing FIFA with mates lately and it is just so much more fluid than PES. Still feels like pass, pass shoot though.

Once people can manage to get past the outdated rigid animations, they'll see with extended play that PES is a far deeper, richly rewarding football game than FIFA; the latter's gloss and animations hide a deeply flawed game that doesn't play anything like real football.

I already think PES 2010 was the best version, if they just stuck a new animation system to that I'd be more than happy

Once people can manage to get past the outdated rigid animations, they'll see with extended play that PES is a far deeper, richly rewarding football game than FIFA; the latter's gloss and animations hide a deeply flawed game that doesn't play anything like real football.

I already think PES 2010 was the best version, if they just stuck a new animation system to that I'd be more than happy

As a former PES fanboy I genuinely find it hard to believe that anyone can seriously think this. I would love for PES 11 to be better than FIFA but it's so far behind I just can't see it happening. I don't understand how anyone could say PES is currently better than FIFA(which plays a far better game than PES) unless you enjoy for the great drama that can be had playing PES.

I'm not tryin to troll here, just can't believe anyone still thinks FIFA plays a better game, can understand how you'd like it for other reasons but it certainly doesn't play better than FIFA.

I was pro evo all the way up untill 2008, then FIFA kindve overtook by a long way.

I'll say this - if they sorth the ML out, put proper CL in there and put more options in terms of club management etc, and bring back a jazzed up version of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-IT5kg8nnI then I'll be interested.

Well on the PC the graphics are astonishing the close ups on the players when goals are scored are amazing, the fabric on the shirts folds as they move about the pitch in a realistic way, you see their eyes move, hell they even blink, the lighting is incredible and this is rather important players actually look like their real life counterparts.

I know FIFA plays better but FIFA has crap graphics and I find it so hard to play FIFA without thinking how bad the players look and in a lot of cases the fifa players look nothing like their real life counterparts.

Still when you get into PES2010 it's still fun to play and when you score goals with players who actually look like the real player it makes the experience so much better.