It would be a room that would have a clothes washing machine, a clothes drying machine, a sink, and a urinal in it. This would be in addition to the restroom that is there and the ADA restroom that we are currently building.<br>
<br>Zedd<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Ever Falling <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:everfalling@gmail.com">everfalling@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
I&#39;m a little confused. are you proposing a small room in which there is a urinal, a sink, and nothing else? a male, pee-only, bathroom? or are you suggesting putting a sit down toilet in there too. if the former is the case: that&#39;s just silly. if it&#39;s the latter then if you plan to allow 2 people to use the bathroom at the same time you&#39;ll need to put up partitions and a door for the sit down toilet. if it&#39;s intended for one person at a time with 2 toilet options then no partition is needed but it seems like only a slight increase in speed/cleanliness for men.<br>

<br>so far i am for a urinal if the room it&#39;s in includes a sit down toilet and possibly has a partition and a door for said sit down toilet if this new bathroom is going to be intended for 2 people at a time. i&#39;m still for it sans partition but not as much as you&#39;d only be able to have one person use it at a time.<div>
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:04 PM, Jeffrey Malone <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ieatlint@tehinterweb.com" target="_blank">ieatlint@tehinterweb.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

<div>&gt; Not really, no. You can&#39;t pee in a toilet? Why spend $350 to benefit<br>
&gt; only some members? We could better spend that money on facilities that<br>
&gt; everyone can use.<br>
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</div>I wasn&#39;t necessarily asking for Noisebridge to approve fund for this<br>
-- although that is an option. I was making a first step to see if<br>
interest existed, and potentially interest for a few people to<br>
volunteer some money.<br>
The cost I quoted is a max amount, and it may be less. The<br>
installation of this will also not add any notable delays to the<br>
completion of the toilets, which is part of why there is an<br>
requirement that the materials be on-site on/by Thursday.<br>
<br>
I also believe, perhaps incorrectly, that this will benefit more than<br>
just the male members/visitors. In theory it could help clean the<br>
toilets cleaner (especially of urine on the seat), and more available<br>
to women.<br>
<div><br>
<br>
&gt; I&#39;m never going to use the washer/dryer in the building, nor will I benefit<br>
&gt; in any significant way from the induction range. Yet my dues are paying for<br>
&gt; them. And will continue to pay the power to run them.<br>
&gt; Part of being a group is that we pay for other member&#39;s reasonable<br>
&gt; frivolities.<br>
<br>
</div>I agree. But I will note that the kitchen has been paid for by our<br>
original buildout fundraiser. From what I can tell, we are roughly at<br>
the end of our budget from the buildout now.<br>
All members and donors are continuing to pay for the electric cost, however.<br>
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&gt;&gt; Personally, I like the idea of the urinal because it increases our bathroom<br>
&gt;&gt; bandwidth by at least 25%. This matters when we hold big big events, such<br>
&gt;&gt; as 5MoF, parties, etc.<br>
&gt;<br>
</div><div>&gt; Does it? I thought this was just for a urinal, not a separate<br>
&gt; room/partition with a urinal.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Most people won&#39;t pee in the &quot;same space&quot; as someone else.<br>
<br>
</div>It does.<br>
As I noted in my original post:<br>
<div>&gt; This could be installed in the room that is to contain the<br>
&gt; washer/dryer hookup<br>
<br>
</div>This would be to go into a room separate from the bathrooms. In the<br>
plans is a room that will contain washer/dryer hookups, which has been<br>
part of the plan for months. It would be a separate room, and thus<br>
people&#39;s privacy issues would be satisfied. This is also why the cost<br>
is so high -- a sink must also be installed, as there otherwise would<br>
not be one in there.<br>
<br>
<br>
Overall, there doesn&#39;t seem to be strong support from those who have replied.<br>
I would encourage others with opinions to share them, and will bring<br>
it up as a short item at tomorrow&#39;s weekly meeting.<br>
<br>
If I don&#39;t have real support after the meeting, I&#39;ll let the idea die.<br>
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