Boys: 2010 All-Shore Chat

I’ve already made the decisions on who are the 15 best players in the Shore Conference, the player of the year and the coach of the year.

You will find out on Saturday, March 27, 2010 what individuals got these honors…in addition to the final top 10, the final season stats, and the coaches’ all-division teams in the printed edition of the Asbury Park Press.

As promised, I will discuss my decisions after the All-Shore section is printed and that date and time are now set as Sunday, March 28 at 6 p.m. sharp. That is your last chance to ask me about boys basketball for the 2009-2010 season. I’m going to warn you in advance you probably not going to like a lot of what I have to say.

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Sherlon Christie is a sports reporter at the Asbury Park Press. He joined the APP in the fall of 2004. He grew up in Massachusetts, has a BA in Journalism from Northeastern University's School of Journalism. He is also the secretary of the National Association of Black Journalists.

1) Follow the APP tradition of having at least 1 first teamer from each of the topshore teams?
2) Prioritize seniors?
3) Overweigh a team’s record vs. focusing on individual contributions and how much better the individual made his team?
4) Pick a different PoY than Kerwin and All Shore Media?

well being that he said a lot of people are not going to like what he said, at least to me, it seems he made some controversial decisions, at least according to the crowd. I think he leaned towards cba since they won the sct title.

Sherlon: Thanks for a great year.This forum is lots of fun,and a great way to keep people involved with the great,great sport of high school basketball. I agree with your choices for the All shore teams,and especially with Vadas for POY. You take him off his team,and you are looking at the Shore’s version of the Nets! One final point,and ,then,a question, for this year.First,very upset that Star Ledger votes St.Pat’s #1 after they were disqualified by the NJSIAA. Second, have you ever considered trying to get all of us(you and regular emailers and chatterrs) together for a night of pizza and some adult beverages? I think that would be a blast,and I think the guys would get a kick out of meeting each other. Imagine the great conversations that would take place! I bet Old School could set us up at Federici’s…..some of the best pizza antwhere. Think about it. Enjoy Lax season.

@guest#2. 1) Mabrey was definitely a first teamer…but obviously I disagreed for POY. 2) CBA was the team of the year. Hence, the reason the Colts finished first in the final top 10. 3) Neither coach made my final list…but I think they did a good job with their programs this year.

@Steve Mindich…1) I can’t do anything about what the Star Ledger does with their rankings. However, I would not have put St. Patrick’s No. 1 after they were disqualified from the state tournament. 2) I might consider that for the preseason next year.

quick question sherlon sorry i missed the chat, you said hawthorne, calderon both made it over lopez for defensive reasoning… Hawthorne is probably one of the worst defensive players in the shore, but he really has a nack for scoring the ball… lopez was as dynamic a scorer around with not much of supporting cast, and calderon, although a great athlete is only a sophomore so lopez definitley deserved it over him, also reguarding coach of the year, how was kevin hynes not a finalist… he took a team that lost 6 of their top 8 guys to graduation and took a young team to its sectional final, although a weak bracket, still a great feat. point had an early exit in SCT, but i still think he deserved mention as a finalist.

All in all, great job this year, you put in a lot of time and do a great job, thanks for a great year and see you next year!

@guest…well we disagree on Hawthorne’s defensive ability. Being a junior or senior has no bearing if someone gets selected. If I think a sophomore or dare I say a freshman is a better player than a junior or a senior…then that sophomore or dare I say freshman again will get picked. End of story. The NJSIAA tournament is only 1/3 of the year. The regular season is another 1/3 and the SCT is another 1/3. Although I will agree that Point Boro had a good NJSIAA tournament I don’t believe the Panthers had a better regular season or SCT over MSouth, CBA, Manasquan, Freehold, Point Beach or Monsignor Donovan. So, it would be very hard for me to give someone coach of the year for having a better 1/3 of a season over teams that had at least a better 2/3. Now, that 1/3 would be a lot stronger if Point Boro had a) won the sectional title and 2) even stronger if Point Boro had made it to the state final and 3) infinitely better if Point Boro had won a state title.

agreed but maybe we have differnt views on what coach of the year means, i think those teams you all mentioned had much better talent and point boro did alot with much less.. and hawthorne is not a good defnesive player, anyway you put it haha i am sorry but just no

This is embarassing. Champeau should have won coach of the entire shore conference, not just the division. That team came out of nowhere, and it wasn’t only the basketball. He went from a program where parents would come to the games and that’s about it to the gym being sold out every night and it becoming more important than the girl’s program for the first time ever. He made boys basketball in Rumson a must see event, and to me that’s better than taking a preseason favorite like Manasquan or South to where they were expected to go. Also, South lost first round of states, making Cullen being COY completely absurd.

@Jackie Moon. LOL…That is definitely a VERY BOLD prediction because the only Ocean County school to make it to the SCT final in the last 14 years is Monsignor Donovan in 2008 and 2006. Toms River North is the last Toms River School to make it to an SCT final and that was in 1996 in a 64-58 lost to CBA. The only Toms River school to ever win an SCT is Toms River South in 1982 in an 82-80 victory over Neptune.

So, I guess you can say I’ve been extremely consistent and that I value winning a division title a lot and a sectional title can only help your chances if you’ve also won a division title.

@John. You do remember that Middletown South beat Rumson-Fair Haven 66-44 in the SCT quarterfinals at Brookdale? You do remember Rumson-Fair Haven led that game 14-13 after the first quarter? You do remember that Midd South led that game 25-19 at halftime? Do you remember why Rumson-Fair Haven lost by that many points after they were winning in the first quarter? Your answer: horrendous 3-point shooting (shot selection mostly) in an arena that has notoriously tight rims. Now, the 3-point shooting offense that Rumson-Fair Haven employed was fun to watch at times but in championship-type games you have to adjust when your Plan A obviously isn’t working. The Bulldogs were 2-for-9 from 3-point range in the first half. They were 4-for-17 from 3-point range after three quarters and finished the game 5-for-22 from 3-point range. The Bulldogs made no adjustments to a strategy that obviously wasn’t working.

Jackie Moon – Unless TR East gets some transfer students and new coaches they will be lucky to end up with a better reccord than 8 – 18. This years team had the talent to win the A South conderence and if coach Carpenter was there they would have won the A South. The coaches that filled in this year were horrible and they ruined the team and if they are coaching next year the team will be lucky to win 8 games. The team has no size under the basket and they don’t have a point guard. They have great football players, soccer players and baseball players and only a few pure basketball players. They need Coach Carpenter, a power forward and a point guard. Without that, they are doomed.

I wouldnt say that Bradly i respect your opinion , but if youve been playing close attention to the upcoming junior and senior class youd kno that theyve had a combined 4 20 win jv and freshman seasons, the graduating class went 500 jv n freshman season, theyll have fast guards , two LIGHTS OUT 3 point shooters , and a agile athletic 6’3 and a stocky athletic 6’3 which is enough to win in the SC ,, remember sher you heard it from me

Jackie- Okay and the JV won 20 games but there is a big difference from varsity to jv and if you did have the players to win you don’t have the coaching staff in place. The coaches this year wouln’t have been able to win the TRBA tournament so how are they going to win the A South let alone the Shore. Toms River is a baseball and football town and not basketball. Until East gets a true point guard and a big forward they would never ever beat CBA or Mon Don. Those teams would beat East by 20 points each and every game, Sorry but East has talent but it takes coaching to win and they don’t have coaching. i hope i am wrong but i saw them play this year and they were out coached in every game that i saw them play and they had a good team but poor coaching killed them every game. pray that you get new coaches, then you can make your case. 🙂

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