eRe4s3r wrote on Oct 13, 2014, 18:07:If you are a game developer you should consider not putting your eggs in the basket of gamasutra....

Also HTML5 games should not be allowed on Steam. It just clutters the store with even more crap.

What eggs?It's a developer posting his learnings for other developers to read.Do you know what the #1 site for developers is?

The eggs that are the "only mention of this game they'll ever get anywhere"

Maybe putting that on a site that has earned massive ire in the past month and is the prime target of boycotts is not smart idea? And being connected with Leigh Alexander you might as well give up promoting your game. Because the hate mobs will inevitably draw you into the war.

And gamasutra is the #1 for developers? Maybe developers want to find a new site...

That's an article discussing learnings, not promoting a game, though. It's aimed not at consumers but fellow developers.

I wouldn't mind 1 ad before a program begins. HBO does it and it doesn't bug me at all. But HBO does it for their content, it may bug me more if it was for, say, a Toyota Camry. It doesn't interrupt anything, though, so I'm ok with it.

Cutter wrote on Oct 12, 2014, 18:24:And how do you know any of it even happened?

I have my doubts that this actually happened. There never seems to be a followup investigation on any of these alleged threats. Good way for alleged victims to get good PR for themselves.

Except 8chan called the police and confirmed the report.

Report =/= investigation. Investigation checks the complaint in the report against the facts as they happened. I could twitter myself, report it to the police for financial gain (free advertising for product, paid interviews over 'female game developer harassed by evil misogynistic men!") and the police report confirms I reported/complained, it doesn't prove it is true.

It does not, but false reports are also felonies.So I'm not really certain what kind of proof you'd want.

Cutter wrote on Oct 8, 2014, 20:36:Broads shouldn't be in charge of tech companies. But if you're going to do it regardless, at least put one in who isn't a bean counter. Smooth move Ex-Lax! Nice play, Shakespeare!

But your don't find it relevant that one interviewer wanted to make her kill herself?

If I can find one member of the anti-gamergate group that did something shitty, can I therefore say all anti-gamergate people are equally guilty of that same thing, and they can be collectively ignored?

Consistency will shoot you in the foot. Sadly, I suspect your preferred method of dealing with this is 'Just be totally inconsistent.'

And, frankly, she's brought up often in those interviews. Gg started with harassing her.

Nah. GG started with pointing out unethical practices that involved her, along with hypocrisy in journalist behavior. It's as true to say 'GG started with harassing Zoe Quinn' as it is to say 'Beamer harasses people who disagree with him on Bluesnews'.

When did I ever say that?What I said is that this group of developers is suspect.When did I ever say anything is to be "collectively ignored?"

What I have repeatedly said is that there's no way #GG is about "ethics." And, on this board, the discussion has so rarely been "ethics." And if it was solely ethics, why are so many people on #gamergate also so heavily against any kind of requests for change? Why is Anita Sarkeesian, not a journalist, so repeatedly harped upon?If it's ethics, why is the focus so predominantly on indies, when the journalist issues are coming predominantly from AAA publishers? And why would the anger not be at the people that won't allow coverage except by their rules?

Ask Blue how many of his articles come from PR departments. How many blasts he gets per day. And ask him how he chooses which to cover. Do personal relationships come into play?Considering he's the only person in the world covering Cliffski, I'd say "obviously." And there's nothing wrong with that. There are deeper issues out there, but that gets ignored in all this, somehow.

Beamer wrote on Oct 11, 2014, 14:40:And, its worth pointing out, that list of devs interviewed was culled from 4chan and includes a guy that wrote an article defending rape and a fit that was in chat rooms encouraging ways to get Zoe Quinn to commit suicide.

But it's about ethics!

Why are you always bringing her up?

I'm not. I couldn't pick her out of a lineup. But your don't find it relevant that one interviewer wanted to make her kill herself?

And, frankly, she's brought up often in those interviews. Gg started with harassing her. And had continued harassing female devs. Yet another chased from get home yesterday.

Beamer wrote on Oct 11, 2014, 14:40:And, its worth pointing out, that list of devs interviewed was culled from 4chan and includes a guy that wrote an article defending rape and a fit that was in chat rooms encouraging ways to get Zoe Quinn to commit suicide.

But it's about ethics!

Why are you always bringing her up?

Beamer likes to play the opposite in any popular conversation, in an attempt to draw attention to himself and get people to engage him.

And, its worth pointing out, that list of devs interviewed was culled from 4chan and includes a guy that wrote an article defending rape and a fit that was in chat rooms encouraging ways to get Zoe Quinn to commit suicide.

xXBatmanXx wrote on Oct 11, 2014, 10:46:The first game makes me want to break my computer stuffs.....reminds me of the NES days of breaking NES controllers over stupid shit like not being able to beat Mike Tyson....

It never bugged me much, because each level took 30-60 seconds to complete, and it reset instantly. Not even a second of load times. It may take 20-30 times to do a level, but often that was still only 5-10 minutes.

But the repetitiveness got old, and once I saw the plot "twist" I felt the game had nothing more to offer and moved on to new things. By "repetitiveness" I don't mean the actual repeating of levels to finish them, but the fact that no new gameplay elements really got introduced as you progressed, so level 20 was identical to level 1 only it required better twitching.

Acleacius wrote on Oct 10, 2014, 21:16:Excited here too, though since the developer is unknown to me, not sure what price point I will buy it.

Zombies (like them or not) are the perfect enemy. No Political, religious, social, racial or gender special interest group has any legitimate negative psychological affect evaluation or classification profile.

And yet zombie movies are amongst the most political horror films, haha.

PHJF wrote on Oct 10, 2014, 14:57:In a perfect world everybody would fucking love their job and strive to do it as best as possible on a daily basis. Rampant time wasting via the internet is a symptom, not a disease.

In a perfect world we wouldn't need to work in the first place. And that already exists for brats born to money.

And is the socialist dream of a lazy liberal! Unfortunately there's millions of lazies, not many silver spoons...

Yes, because 200 years ago we had to work 7 days a week, but thanks to those pinko commie libruls we only have to work five! Even God said you should only have Sunday off (who knew God was a commie?), but we take two days! In a row!

C'mon Axis, let's start a PAC to remove the weekend. We can call it the Seven Workdays All Lazy Liberals Over a Week Political Action Committee, or SWALLOWPAC for short. I'm sure we can get the Koch brothers to donate a ton. They'd prefer all their workers to be working seven days a week at their current monthly salary, so we should have plenty of money to support candidates.

jdreyer wrote on Oct 10, 2014, 15:47:The narcissism on display here is breathtaking. There are so many women that could be modeled after.

Although given the themes of GTA, maybe Lohan is spot on that they'd use her image as a representation of the game.

I thought that character was very obviously a parody 90% based upon her.But, I mean, yeah. A parody. With a different name. And who even saw what she looked like? You were too busy driving and listening to the awful dialogue.

That entire subplot was one of the worst parts of that game.

The image on the Xbox disc does look exactly like her. I don't remember that on my disc, I should double check. Was that PAL only?

And while I think the bikini girl definitely looks a ton like the bikini pic of Lindsey, it was a different model. Again, at best, parody.

Beamer wrote on Oct 10, 2014, 11:15:Have you guys ever actually asked for a raise?Every company I've been at gives annual ones that depend on a frustrating matrix of your performance (which you control), the performance of your division (which you may control but probably don't), and the performance of the company (which about 3 people control, and you probably think they're greedy idiots.) The average across corporate was usually 3%. I got 8% one year, which was nice. Our bonus was also tied to it, and the year I got 8% the company hadn't done well so my bonus was capped at 50% of what it should have been. I learned not to factor bonus into wages after that.

Otherwise, I just jump companies. Often. Last time I jumped I got a $50k raise, which was and is still mindblowing. My boss at the time looked at me and asked if I'd be willing to listen to a counter offer and I just looked at him with pity and tried not to laugh.

I've had this and similar to the other remark, my first job I had you have to threaten to leave to get a raise and then prove yourself, so I'd go in once every 3 to 4, the last time I did, they didn't and I lived up to what I said and left.

At my current employer of 16 years now, you get a raise on promotion and you get 2.5 to 5% annual raises, there is a matrix that feathers in how much you get. The company lays down and avg, say everyone can avg 3%, now if you under-perform you can get 2% and another can get 4%, for example. Then we have bonuses 50% based on dept, 50% based on company.

But the real way to make more is job jumping, it is one of the few facts of life I've fed my boys. I say "I don't know where your happy place is in terms of income, but you'll know and if you aren't there jump jobs, however for your first job get a couple solid years in to prove your reliable." I tell them these are some of the most important things I can tell you. My oldest is just coming up to that, he's getting his associate in software, then heading into a business degree. The younger starts it all next year. We'll see.

For me, the balance of job duties and pay are well enough for me to ride this out, hopefully. Put it this way I make good money and I don't work game programmers hours.

Yeah, never threaten to quit if you aren't willing to back it. Likewise, never accept a counter-offer if you give 2 weeks notice.

Also, I realize there was some significant entitlement in my "jump jobs" comment. I'm a single dude. I've lived in nearly every part of this country because, as a single dude, jumping jobs is pretty easy. I'm willing to move from the northeast to the south to the midwest to the pacific northwest. No skin off my back - my only pickiness is that I can't be in a city that sucks more than the one I'm leaving (a list that keeps shrinking.) If someone has a family or even just a spouse, that's not quite as feasible.