Ahhh...should've known. On a more serious note, I need some forearm training advice. Do you have any suggestions?

Isolation! Hold them over a bench or something where ONLY your forearms can do the work. So when they're tired, no other muscle takes over the work load...... and genetics. If your genetics suck, good luck. Forearms are like calves in that sense

I am pretty close to that.&nbsp; Bi's and lower chest for me.&nbsp; Damn swimmings been killing my tri's and keeping my chest were it belongs.&nbsp; If it weren't for flys I'd probally not be able to train my chest.

Sad things is that not many people outside the gym can understand how anyone could be weak in the only two body parts worth training.

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My shoulders are pretty wide, and it's hard to get enough muscle on them to really get them hanging out there, so that pisses me off. My arms and traps tend to grow easily as well so they can look out of balance with my delts very very quickly. Similarly, chest is stubborn and back grows quickly. But yeah, been working hard to keep my delts in line.

Gotta be calves for me, I hate them. One is an inch smaller than the other, get that crap! I'm nailing them pretty hard lately though. Always been a debate for me as to: heavy weight, low rep, or med weight, high rep. I do both, still not sure if one is better than the other for&nbsp;mine.

chest has been getting bigger from a slightly different training setup and a closer-in grip than the wide-ass grip i had before; so it may get a lot bigger again when i go on androgens again

my legs are like friggin huge (cept hte calves) compared to the rest of my body... benefits of playing soccer for 5 years, baseball for 7 and always always running up and down every staircase i come across and hitting every other step just as a habit

chest has been getting bigger from a slightly different training setup and a closer-in grip than the wide-ass grip i had before; so it may get a lot bigger again when i go on androgens again

my legs are like friggin huge (cept hte calves) compared to the rest of my body... benefits of playing soccer for 5 years, baseball for 7 and always always running up and down every staircase i come across and hitting every other step just as a habit

Hey bean Layne norton has an awesome upper chest. He says he always did barbells for the most part and he said that to get that awesome chest development he did dumbell routine for 12 weeks and some tremendous development in his chest. I believe the closer grip works chest more too on the barbell because i did a very slightly closer grip on the barbell the last workout and my chest felt slightly more pumped then normal.

Hey bean Layne norton has an awesome upper chest. He says he always did barbells for the most part and he said that to get that awesome chest development he did dumbell routine for 12 weeks and some tremendous development in his chest. I believe the closer grip works chest more too on the barbell because i did a very slightly closer grip on the barbell the last workout and my chest felt slightly more pumped then normal.

I would say my calves, only b/c one is nice and thick, with the diamond shave or whatever...the other is just thick.&nbsp; I mean they look like two different legs if I were to take a pic of just the calves.

AND my chest, its too small.&nbsp; Its getting bigger though as we speak..

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My forearms are sorta small also,

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Id say abs, but I actually have good abs, just can't see them.&nbsp; When I could see them they were nice and thick..separation was decent.

for me its forearms and biceps...at least my biceps have improved over the last 8 months or so...and forearms are startin to improve. and abs? what are abs? will somebody please tell me what are abs????!!!