Ryazzo - Lol back in college me and my buddy were rolling in the mat room at the school fitness center. I had lifted him up and started the shimmy to break his guard. At that moment we looked over and a group of really hot girls were all looking in the window laughing at us...

Last time we trained at school.

bunch of hot girls peeking through a window laughing like retards that don't know shit of what they see and you guys quit cuz of that ?

now that is pathetic on both ends...hopefully since then you guys are back in the game and enjoying something YOU wanted to learn --and not at the praise of others.

The bottom line is that anytime a man allows his crotch to touch any part of another man, it is going to seem gay to people because there are only two times such a thing ever happens: bjj and male gay sex. Wrestling gets close, with the hugging but there is less crotch contact and not as much laying down on top of each other chest to chest.

I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it but no one practicing BJJ should seemed shocked by this. It just doesn't look "manly" from the American perspective.

All of us who study the art have been the subject of this "criticism" before, but what I don't get is why don't those who feel this way think wrestling is "gay" too? Why is the wrestling they saw in high school and college and watch every four years in the Olympics not gay, but BJJ is gay?

No one's ever explained that to me when I ask after they make a joke about BJJ's "gay-ness." I always ask, and they always just get a confused look like that's never occurred to them before, sort of agree, shrug their shoulders, and change the subject.

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