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I'm all for using WAR, but you have to use it in context, like any stat. There is a HUGE difference between being more valuable, and being a better player. Revere could possibly be more valuable, but no way is he better.

Last edited by Sick Of It All; 12-07-2012 at 10:25 PM.
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Whether the first half underperformance had all to do with the valley fever I am not sure.

As for Revere, ill backtrack and admit he is not the better player and stick more towards my original argument which was its more difficult to find a quality CF than it is a first baseman of Ike's stature.

And that Revere could still be the more valuable player if Ike doesn't improve.

Whether the first half underperformance had all to do with the valley fever I am not sure.

As for Revere, ill backtrack and admit he is not the better player and stick more towards my original argument which was its more difficult to find a quality CF than.it is a first baseman of Ike stature.

You are still underrating Ike and overrating Revere.

Revere is barely a quality starting CF. His offense is garbage. You can find better CFers out there. Its not that hard. He is decent, but not irreplaceably good. Lets not make him out to be a valuable commodity.

Ike on the other hand is just an average 1st baseman right now. This is correct. However, he still has massive upside and its more likely than not that he will begin to show what he can do sooner rather than later.

In this situation you just gotta use common sense and understand that Ike is a better player than the stats have indicated. He was good in the minors. He had a solid rookie year. He was off to a good start his sophomore year but got hurt. Then he struggled like hell for the first 2 months of last season. That could have been due to valley fever or pure rust, but he bounced back and actually played well from June on. Ike will be fine. He is vastly superior to Revere, who is barely a starting CF who only starts because he has speed and is decent in the field in a scarce position...but he makes very little impact at the plate at the end of the day.

There is no smart argument here. I'd rather have a gaping hole at CF and Ike at 1B than Revere and CF and someone like Duda playing 1B.

You will soon come to realize how unfairly you are underrating Ike, and how its ridiculous to make claim that Revere is a more valuable commodity.

Last edited by Wrigheyes4MVP; 12-07-2012 at 11:27 PM.

DUDA

Originally Posted by VendettaRed07

noah is gonna be a beast man.

with him and harvey, its like were gonna have Goku and Vegetta in the same rotation

I can't wait for Ike to prove that he is without a shadow of a doubt better than Revere.

It won't take much lol.

Of course he'll prove it.

Revere is really not that good. He's a weak singles hitter with absolutely NO power at all. He had 19 extra base hits the entire yr. Ike may double that in HR's alone. He can field the CF position well, but has a terrible arm. The only thing he has going for him is he plays CF and can steal bases, and dude over there keeps saying how its harder to find a CF than 1B as if this guy is a great CF..... There's plenty of guys who can steal bases. 23 guys stole at least 30 last yr with several very close to 30. We can get speed elswhere rather than give up better and more valuable players