I want to run with Russ and Ingram, let's actually build a roster around them.

I agree with everything you have been saying. Im keeping Russ and Ingram, but everyone else can go. I just hope thay us getying rid of our best player for a pick means Russ starts playing 30 plus minutes everynight now. I also want to see Clarkson play some back up 1 to see if he can get his playmaking back he had his first season. But i agree we need to buikd around Ingram and Russ.

The problem is the only way pacers accept this is if PG demands a trade and puts pacers in a bad position, much like the dwight howard trade. They are going to want Ingram in there and im sure some other team could give them that type of deal too.

Yeah, Boston easily beats out any package we offer if Ingram isn't included.

Yeah, Boston easily beats out any package we offer if Ingram isn't included.

Boston has some really good young players though. They don't really need to have that win now mentality like everyone expects them too. Fultz could easily replace Thomas and they'd be fine for years to come.

Bostons young players are overrated imo. Other then there pick and maybe Jaylen Brown who else do you see thats good. We hear this every year with Boston that they have all these assets and they end up doing nothing.

What do you hope to change for the remaining 25 games that'll make a difference in the big picture.

Imo the best asset we can get is that top 3.

Lets just say we were able to swindle PG from IND but we gave up JC, Randle, Young, HOU pick + a 2nd round pick to do so... are we that much better that we jeopardize the pick anymore than currently constructed?

I highly doubt Pacers would even consider a trade if Russell and Ingram both were not included. So with that mindset, I would wait (However if they want one of them...that's an interesting dilemma).

If get a top 3 pick (especially the #1 pick) and George is still with the Pacers, that could be huge in trading for George in the Summer.

They either take our garbage, overpay for him to stay, or let him walk for nothing. We don't need to give up too much to get him. Russ/Ingram should be off limits unless we get KAT, Greek Freak, or AD in return which ain't happening.