Therefore the Information Posted is basically for all (Old) TG "The Gathering" Members (solely) so they can COMPARE what they remember of (Old) TG "The Gathering" and Key Differences between (Old) TG "The Gathering" and NEW TG Clan.

Therefore: (Old) TG "The Gathering" members (who have not joined NEW TG Clan) possibly ARE interested in WHERE any (Old) TG "The Gathering" members have gone, WHAT any (Old) TG "The Gathering" members are DOING and perhaps IF any (Old) TG "The Gathering" members are still ALIVE.

Regarding myself, as an ex (Old) TG "The Gathering" member:

When NEW TG Clan was formed its "Welcoming Message" stated:

Welcome to the home of TG The Gathering wrote:

TG The Gathering is a group of people who doesn't like to make people feel left out or hated!This is a group of people who care about the actual life of Halo Custom Edition Gaming!There's not much rules to follow by, but it's enough to make you have a great timein TG whether or not it's in our servers, public servers, or even just on Xfire.

Together this "Welcome Message" was coupled with further information copied directly from (Old) TG "The Gathering" Website (that since seems to have been removed) which further reaffirmed what (Old) TG "The Gathering" represented.

TG Leader (sonny) wrote:

Anyone can join New TG Clan apart from people like you and crypt because tbh we can't be arsed with your shit. New TG Clan forum is about having a laugh and talking about anything. Most don't play Halo and no one cares about that one fact. We play many other games between us but you wouldn't know that.

How NEW TG Clan operates and what NEW TG Clan members do is completely up to NEW TG Clan, but for any (Old) TG "The Gathering" members wondering what happened to other (Old) TG "The Gathering" members and even about (Old) TG "The Gathering" itself, at least they have this information here.

There is absolutely NO Judgement either being Made or Implied here regarding NEW TG Clan. Any (Old) TG "The Gathering" members can decide for themselves what NEW TG Clan represents and can make of NEW TG Clan whatever they wish.

AS AN ASIDE:It does seem as if NEW TG Clan Leaders (and some NEW TG Clan members) are so caught up in their own Dislikes, Prejudices, Anger and Hatred towards ┬« Realworld Guild (for whatever reason) they find difficultly understanding that not all Halo Gaming Communities operate that way or by their (NEW TG Clan) standards. Old TG "The Gathering" certainly never operated that way.

Nowhere in this Post are NEW TG Clan (or NEW TG Clan members) being attacked, and in fact ALL NEW TG Clan members are welcome (as fellow Halo Players) into ┬« Realworld Guild Community.

_________________Harbinge┬«: A Wise Oracle. Bringer of Wisdom and Doom.

As stated previously: ┬« Realworld Guild ISN'T a Clan. By design Realworld Guild does NOT have a Leader, but Realworld Guild does have Clearly Defined Rules and Policies (for all to Read) and Realworld Guild does have Forum Moderators and Core Admins who perform most of the Website Administration type stuff etc.

However NEW TG Clan IS a Clan and consequentially has all the implications (Clan Leaders and such) associated with a Clan Structure - No one is saying that's a bad thing, only that it's different by design. Usually (by design) a Clan Structure is directly linked to Control and Power, (Hierarchies and stuff) and a Clan Structure helps Define Individuality and Distinguishes Differences between various Other Clans etc. Hence Clan Wars, Clan Tournaments, Clan Rivalry etc etc.

Old TG "The Gathering" was NOT a Clan and different (however it was similar in structure to ┬« Realworld Guild) and both (Old) TG "The Gathering" and ┬« Realworld Guild were Allies and Friends. Fortunately many (Old) TG "The Gathering" members remain ┬« Realworld Guild Members and although NEW TG Clan is NOT the same as (Old) TG "The Gathering" community, (Old) TG "The Gathering" members still share the same love of Halo Custom Edition and can express this love either here or wherever else they wish.

_________________Harbinge┬«: A Wise Oracle. Bringer of Wisdom and Doom.

You are the Leader of ┬« Realworld Guild, YOU make the rules no one else. Whether you like to call it Core Admins it doesn't matter. You have proved in the past when other people want to change things it's Core Admins way or the high way. Damn that's the reason why I left.

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What you call "Leader"... There's a difference between "Leader" and "Leadership":

(Somewhere else in this Forum is another Topic explaining various different types of "Leadership" and perhaps later at some point the link will be inserted here for reference)

Clans have a "Leader" (or "Leaders") whilst other type of structures although requiring Leadership don't necessarily require a "Leader".

Whereas since ┬« Realworld Guild doesn't require a "Leader" to operate so my Realworld Guild Role is one of Realworld Guild "Admin Core". ┬« Realworld Guild only requires Realworld Guild "Admins" who ensure that the Clearly Publicly Displayed Realworld Guild Rules and Policies are enforced and applied correctly. Hopefully together in our Roles as Realworld Guild Admins we are "FACILITATORS", who work together as part of a "TEAM" and who help make ┬« Realworld Guild a better place for all who wish to abide by Realworld Guild Rules and Policies.

In fact not all ┬« Realworld Guild Rules and Policies were created by me: Most Realworld Guild Rules and Policies already previously existed way back in Realworld Guild's Roots and Origins, and the majority of Realworld Guild Rules and Policies (created since Realworld Guild's inception) were created jointly through agreement between Realworld Guild Admin Core Team. And I do my best to ensure that Realworld Guild Rules and Policies continue being applied solely for the benefit of Realworld Guild Members.

No Realworld Guild Member is ever forced to belong to ┬« Realworld Guild and neither are they required to Post or Contribute towards Realworld Guild in any way. However it's a bit difficult understanding how it's claimed:

TG Clan Leader (sonny) wrote:

"Damn that's the reason why we I left"

Clearly most (NEW TG Clan members) are still here as ┬« Realworld Guild Members and continue to both Read and Post in ┬« Realworld Guild Community.

Whilst it's true that (approximately) 3 NEW TG Clan members actively reply to posts referring (primarily) to NEW TG Clan etc. (and there's no problem with them doing so) but besides these 3 NEW TG Clan members, most of the remaining NEW TG Clan members (who are also ┬« Realworld Guild Members) READ other Topics and Information here in Realworld Guild, just as do 100's of other ┬« Realworld Guild Members - many of whom include both Old and New TG'ers. Besides, IF what NEW TG Clan Leader (TG Sonny) says is correct, then most NEW TG Clan aren't that interested in Halo anyway. It can only be stated here what NEW TG Clan Leaders and NEW TG Clan members contribute directly and that originate (as one might say) from the Ass's own Mouth.

After all, this "TG" related Topic IS in the ┬« Realworld Guild Forum, "Guild Members Servers & Services".

BTW:sonny IS New TG Clan Leader

FYI:In this Topic, It's true that Comparisons (Similarities/Differences) ARE examined between ┬« Realworld Guild, (Old) TG "The Gathering" and NEW TG Clan because some (Old) TG "The Gathering" members might find this information beneficial.

Surely NEW TG Clan don't have anything to hide do they, or are fearful of anything true that is said?

Please note:The above are just simple questions (and not statements) which forthwith are being clarified as questions in order to avoid such questions getting misconstrued as being statements.

For reasons undetermined, previous experience demonstrated that some NEW TG Clan members appear to experience difficulty determining the difference between when proposing "Questions" and when making "Statements". For example saying something like,

"NEW TG Clan Leader sonny and NEW TG Clan member mercedes are both Bigoted Liars"

would be a Statement. Whilst proposing something like,

"Is it possible that NEW TG Clan Leader "sonny" and NEW TG Clan member mercedes are both Self Seeking Power Maniacs?"

would be a Question.

It is sincerely hoped everyone at NEW TG Clan are able to appreciate the difference between these two examples, and which are only being provided for the sole purpsoe of aiding clarity here within this reply. ┬« Realworld Guild wishes ALL fellow (Old) TG "The Gathering" members the very best of luck if/when they encounter New TG Clan.

_________________Harbinge┬«: A Wise Oracle. Bringer of Wisdom and Doom.

Good suggestion about correctly specifying Forum Status (and always pleased to oblige) however New TG Clan Leader is a Rank, and it has been done. Especially since (Old) TG "The Gathering" didn't have a Leader and were always cool dudes.

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