How does this relate to fishing?

Sharp,
These things are "convenient" because they pass along costs into areas where they aren't as readily quantifiable. Your conveniences come at a cost, at some point we need to ask if those conveniences are really worth the cost. God forbid that someone might not be able to drive a hummer to the grocery store, or commute to work in his Excursion, have to insulate his or her home, turn the thermostat down, use fluorescent light bulbs. Anyway, transportation is only part of the issue, coal use in energy production is a much scarier prospect (use is increasing much faster than oil). Are these things really so important that you missing out on any of them would cause you to loose all regard for the environment? Look at the big picture. No one is asking you to live in a cave, wear Birkenstocks and eat organically grown lentils.

Also, no one said global warming would create another ice age (it could alter the Atlantic currents and create a cooling effect in northern Europe).

hey, any cooling is fine with me. i dont mean that we shouldnt try to do better for the environment, but its not like what we are doing is killing everything. but we arent going to keep the world from warming, history shows that these patterns happen. honestly, if we want to help the enviroment, we will have to use the resources at hand in order to discover new resources. all the democrats are doing is trying to scare people and act like they have answers so that people vote for them. none of them have answers that real people cant come to on their own. if you want to do something good for the enviroment, plant a tree around your house, go volunteer with pheasants forever, find a fish program that enhances migration of salmonids. theres no need to worry about global warming though.

The scientific community is completely unified on the subject. The climate IS warming, and it IS due to human activities. Those are facts, it's not a debate. All this B.S. fair and balanced cable news americans watch now days has them convinced that because 3 or 4 climate scientists have sold out to oil companies that there is actual doubt. I think the real debate should be about a course of action.

I'm not so apocalyptic as many are. The world has been much warmer before and it will be much cooler (ice age) again. Its only a matter of when. I think we need to step back and remember that we are not seperate from the fate of the planet, but rather indelibly bound to it. We evolved here and so often people live like this planet provides us with infinite resources. The way we live on earth will change, its just a matter of how drastic things have to get before then.

Will

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I think you mean 3 or 4 hundred scientists right.....unfortunately many believe the " unfair and imbalanced network news like yourself"

When you pick and choose your facts you can make anything look scary. Many glaciers are growing and advancing, not shrinking.

Perhaps it is an inconvenient truth but many glaciers are growing, not shrinking. The mass-hysteria crowd would have you believe that the earth is having a giant melt down. As Al Gore has said “the earth has a fever”. This is pure alarmist shrill meant to scare people in to following their movement by faith, not by science. The facts according to the Nobel Peace Prize winning United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) are that the earth has warmed at the most .7C (that is point 7) and even they admit that much of that is natural. But of course much like Nostradamus they have dire predictions for the future. But these predictions are based on unproven computer models and many, many assumptions.
The chicken-little crowd will continue to try to scare people with propaganda, lies and misinformation but the facts are the sky is not falling and the earth does NOT "have a fever". The facts according to the Nobel Peace Prize winning IPCC is that the earth has warmed at the most .7C (that is point 7) in the past 100 years, much (probably all) of that is natural. We should not try to stop nature from doing what nature is going to do. The real 'inconvenient truth' is that Al Gore lied in his book, he knew that scientists didn't agree with MANY of his assertions yet he insisted on putting a "non-fiction" label on this work of science fiction.

Even more disconcerting still is the fact that American school children have been forced to watch this garbage by their "left wing network news watching teachers" which we pay to educate our children...not indoctrinate them with the lies they have been gullible enough to believe!

The simple fact is we just don't know! Does this mean we should not try to preserve our environment for future generations....of course not. Does it mean we should believe this unsubstantiated propaganda...not unless you wish to be counted amongst the masses...the dumb masses.

The scientific community is completely unified on the subject. The climate IS warming, and it IS due to human activities. Those are facts, it's not a debate. All this B.S. fair and balanced cable news americans watch now days has them convinced that because 3 or 4 climate scientists have sold out to oil companies that there is actual doubt. I think the real debate should be about a course of action.

I'm not so apocalyptic as many are. The world has been much warmer before and it will be much cooler (ice age) again. Its only a matter of when. I think we need to step back and remember that we are not seperate from the fate of the planet, but rather indelibly bound to it. We evolved here and so often people live like this planet provides us with infinite resources. The way we live on earth will change, its just a matter of how drastic things have to get before then.

#5. Ain't gonna fricken matter in my lifetime so what does it really , uh, matter. And that's on both sides of the hysteria. Shut up is what I say and fish. By the fricken way, this is a FISHING board, not a environ-terrorist-whackjob board. Ok, maybe a whackjob board since Chris lets me stay around. But jeeez

OMJ just said it best, We all fucked up.
Just man bring man.
I try to do my best not to fuck up to much.
But it takes a hour to drive to the fishing hole, that would take a week to walk.
Now I'm sad, so what the hell tomorrow is opening day for rooster pheasant and I'm driving to parking lot and walking to hunt. Not sad any more.
You all have a good weekend hunting, fishing, or chasing momma around the house.

But it takes a hour to drive to the fishing hole, that would take a week to walk.

Isn't that the truth. But with all the rain we have been getting lately you can't ever drive to a fishing hole. Any road off the main roads are dirt. And now they are just one big mud puddle. And away from it all is the place to go.

When I lived in Western Washington and it rained you could still get to where you were going because of the paved roads.

Jim

P/S........ You could say I lived in a messed up place. But wouldn't trade it off for all the paved roads in the world.