Watford hand former South Korea icon Park Chu-Young a chance to earn a place at this summer's World Cup

Watford’s new signing Park Chu-Young has seen his stock fall dramatically in recent years but the former South Korea icon now has the chance to earn a place at this summer’s World Cup.

The South Korea international, who is also referred to as Ju-Young Park by some, had a good goal scoring record at his previous clubs Monaco and FC Seoul and was an icon in Asia before he joined Arsenal in 2011.

But the 28-year-old has failed to break into the Gunners side in the past three years and his career has suffered.

Chu-Young had been a regular for South Korea until last year, averaging around a goal every three games, and he has often captained the team in the past.

And he received a boost earlier this month when the manager of South Korea, Hong Myung-Bo, suggested he would be keen to take the player to the World Cup in the summer - which would be Chu-Young's third consecutive World Cup.

"I can take Park Chu-Young and even Park Ji-Sung to the World Cup," Hong told the Chosun Ilbo.

"It is true that Chu-Young has not been able to maintain the best feel of the game because he hasn't been playing for his club. But a player who can act as a psychological leader among the players will help the team greatly, and in my opinion, Chu-Young can do that.

"This World Cup takes place immediately after the European league season ends, unlike the London Olympics in 2012. This makes it even more difficult for Chu-Young to be in his top form when he joins the national team," said Hong.

But he did state "the addition of Chu-Young to the national team would give it an overall boost thanks to his leadership and experience."

Chu-Young won a host of individual and team awards at youth level and in his first few years as a professional, finishing as top scorer in the K-League.

He earned a move to Monaco in 2008 and was a regular, although he only scored five goals in 35 games in all competitions during his first year in France.

The record became nine goals in 33 matches the following campaign and during the 2010/11 season he netted on 12 occasions in 35 games.

His form for club and country was enough to persuade Arsene Wenger to go back to his old club to sign the player in 2011.

Chu-Young was said to be quick, good in the air, technically strong and capable with both feet.

But he has been unable to earn a place in the Gunners squad with any kind of regularity.

He was limited to just eight minutes in the Premier League and five cup appearances during his first season at the club.

Wenger decided to loan out Chu-Young last season and he scored five goals in 25 outings for La Liga side Celta Vigo.

This season he has been limited to one substitute appearance and has been an unused sub on four other occasions.

His only Arsenal goal came in the 2-1 Capital One Cup win over Bolton Wanderers in October 2011.

Prior to Chu-Young’s move to Watford, South Korea boss Myung-Bo also said: "Park had an edge over other players in the national team for the 2012 London Olympics because all strikers including him were being used as substitutes [at club level]. But now things have changed and we have a number of strikers who are regularly playing for their clubs, so it's hard to choose Park given that he's not getting time on the pitch."

Comments

keith5190
2:39am Sat 1 Feb 14

Could this be the end of 'park the bus' and the beginning of 'park chu-young' ONLY been a Hornets fan since 3rd round of the cup v PNE in 49/50 season so guess I know nothing compared to the 'know all's' and complainers on here. As GT said "best form of defence is attack' lets do it coach

Could this be the end of 'park the bus' and the beginning of 'park chu-young' ONLY been a Hornets fan since 3rd round of the cup v PNE in 49/50 season so guess I know nothing compared to the 'know all's' and complainers on here. As GT said "best form of defence is attack' lets do it coachkeith5190

Could this be the end of 'park the bus' and the beginning of 'park chu-young' ONLY been a Hornets fan since 3rd round of the cup v PNE in 49/50 season so guess I know nothing compared to the 'know all's' and complainers on here. As GT said "best form of defence is attack' lets do it coach

Score: 7

keith5190
2:40am Sat 1 Feb 14

Oh! preferably for 90 mins not 48

Oh! preferably for 90 mins not 48keith5190

Oh! preferably for 90 mins not 48

Score: 4

rogeruk
5:30am Sat 1 Feb 14

keith5190 wrote…

Could this be the end of 'park the bus' and the beginning of 'park chu-young' ONLY been a Hornets fan since 3rd round of the cup v PNE in 49/50 season so guess I know nothing compared to the 'know all's' and complainers on here. As GT said "best form of defence is attack' lets do it coach

Experience does not come with age. An old fool was also a young fool.

[quote][p][bold]keith5190[/bold] wrote:
Could this be the end of 'park the bus' and the beginning of 'park chu-young' ONLY been a Hornets fan since 3rd round of the cup v PNE in 49/50 season so guess I know nothing compared to the 'know all's' and complainers on here. As GT said "best form of defence is attack' lets do it coach[/p][/quote]Experience does not come with age. An old fool was also a young fool.rogeruk

keith5190 wrote…

Could this be the end of 'park the bus' and the beginning of 'park chu-young' ONLY been a Hornets fan since 3rd round of the cup v PNE in 49/50 season so guess I know nothing compared to the 'know all's' and complainers on here. As GT said "best form of defence is attack' lets do it coach

Experience does not come with age. An old fool was also a young fool.

Score: -39

[deleted]
5:56am Sat 1 Feb 14

[deleted]

A comment from Korea.
First of all, C Y Park is NOT an icon of South Korean soccer.
I kid you not. He's more like an icon of a shameless backstabber in Korea.
He's more like a symbol - or abomination - of
all the dirty power and money from fukcing GyeongSangDians
plus fukcing Korean Christian society. Excuse my language.
As a soccer player, he's practically a disaster and that's why
Wenger never ever used him.
Anyway, let me give you an advice on how to properly make use of him.
Make sure he stays out of the stadium.General Lee

A comment from Korea.
First of all, C Y Park is NOT an icon of South Korean soccer.
I kid you not. He's more like an icon of a shameless backstabber in Korea.
He's more like a symbol - or abomination - of
all the dirty power and money from fukcing GyeongSangDians
plus fukcing Korean Christian society. Excuse my language.

As a soccer player, he's practically a disaster and that's why
Wenger never ever used him.
Anyway, let me give you an advice on how to properly make use of him.

Make sure he stays out of the stadium.

Score: -14

The BestTrip2011
6:35am Sat 1 Feb 14

Oppa is gangnam style.

Oppa is gangnam style.The BestTrip2011

Oppa is gangnam style.

Score: -6

[deleted]
7:17am Sat 1 Feb 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]General Lee[/bold] wrote:
A comment from Korea.
First of all, C Y Park is NOT an icon of South Korean soccer.
I kid you not. He's more like an icon of a shameless backstabber in Korea.
He's more like a symbol - or abomination - of
all the dirty power and money from fukcing GyeongSangDians
plus fukcing Korean Christian society. Excuse my language.
As a soccer player, he's practically a disaster and that's why
Wenger never ever used him.
Anyway, let me give you an advice on how to properly make use of him.
Make sure he stays out of the stadium.[/p][/quote]Say what you really think...mellow yellow

General Lee wrote…

A comment from Korea.
First of all, C Y Park is NOT an icon of South Korean soccer.
I kid you not. He's more like an icon of a shameless backstabber in Korea.
He's more like a symbol - or abomination - of
all the dirty power and money from fukcing GyeongSangDians
plus fukcing Korean Christian society. Excuse my language.

As a soccer player, he's practically a disaster and that's why
Wenger never ever used him.
Anyway, let me give you an advice on how to properly make use of him.

Make sure he stays out of the stadium.

Say what you really think...

Score: 3

Jon_mk
7:18am Sat 1 Feb 14

Hardly prolific is he?

Hardly prolific is he?Jon_mk

Hardly prolific is he?

Score: -21

dorphil
7:20am Sat 1 Feb 14

It's great to have those Italian connections I got a feeling we'll be in the same league as Luton within a couple of years

It's great to have those Italian connections I got a feeling we'll be in the same league as Luton within a couple of yearsdorphil

It's great to have those Italian connections I got a feeling we'll be in the same league as Luton within a couple of years

Score: -77

[deleted]
7:26am Sat 1 Feb 14

[deleted]

[quote][p][bold]mellow yellow[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]General Lee[/bold] wrote:
A comment from Korea.
First of all, C Y Park is NOT an icon of South Korean soccer.
I kid you not. He's more like an icon of a shameless backstabber in Korea.
He's more like a symbol - or abomination - of
all the dirty power and money from fukcing GyeongSangDians
plus fukcing Korean Christian society. Excuse my language.
As a soccer player, he's practically a disaster and that's why
Wenger never ever used him.
Anyway, let me give you an advice on how to properly make use of him.
Make sure he stays out of the stadium.[/p][/quote]Say what you really think...[/p][/quote]Last season we were told that the enormous amount of loan siginings was a 'one-off' due to the timing of the Pozzo acquisition of the club. When this season began, we had signed some of the key players on permanent deals and had a few more loan players to boot. But the noises from Zola etc were tht this was a much better pre season, and a better squad. Of course, we had lost NC, would be unable to get back MV, and had also said goodbye to both Hogg and Eustace. I was not alone in voicing concerns about the latter two leaving, but it still felt good, despite a few misgivings. Then, and no one could really have forseen this, Abdi has this (very depressing for all of us) foot injury and the slide begins.
Now, we have more permanent players out on loan (whether young UK talent OR overseas players) and another loan player in... the lack of focus is alarming, and the person that connects both situations.... NANI. I would suggest the aim now is really mid table, next year we will either have a new gaffer or Sannini on a one year rolling contract, but Mr Nani might well be out of a job. This part of the club clearly isn't working.
At a fans forum Nani and Duxbury were (arrogantly, it now seems) claiming that these weren't the best players we could get, that next season they would be even better... well, that is now clearly a statement of gross naivety at best. Time to get your taxi, Mr Nani... it will be rolling up in May.mellow yellow

mellow yellow wrote…

General Lee wrote…

A comment from Korea.
First of all, C Y Park is NOT an icon of South Korean soccer.
I kid you not. He's more like an icon of a shameless backstabber in Korea.
He's more like a symbol - or abomination - of
all the dirty power and money from fukcing GyeongSangDians
plus fukcing Korean Christian society. Excuse my language.

As a soccer player, he's practically a disaster and that's why
Wenger never ever used him.
Anyway, let me give you an advice on how to properly make use of him.

Make sure he stays out of the stadium.

Say what you really think...

Last season we were told that the enormous amount of loan siginings was a 'one-off' due to the timing of the Pozzo acquisition of the club. When this season began, we had signed some of the key players on permanent deals and had a few more loan players to boot. But the noises from Zola etc were tht this was a much better pre season, and a better squad. Of course, we had lost NC, would be unable to get back MV, and had also said goodbye to both Hogg and Eustace. I was not alone in voicing concerns about the latter two leaving, but it still felt good, despite a few misgivings. Then, and no one could really have forseen this, Abdi has this (very depressing for all of us) foot injury and the slide begins.

Now, we have more permanent players out on loan (whether young UK talent OR overseas players) and another loan player in... the lack of focus is alarming, and the person that connects both situations.... NANI. I would suggest the aim now is really mid table, next year we will either have a new gaffer or Sannini on a one year rolling contract, but Mr Nani might well be out of a job. This part of the club clearly isn't working.

At a fans forum Nani and Duxbury were (arrogantly, it now seems) claiming that these weren't the best players we could get, that next season they would be even better... well, that is now clearly a statement of gross naivety at best. Time to get your taxi, Mr Nani... it will be rolling up in May.

Score: 8

buckler
8:08am Sat 1 Feb 14

Sounds like just what we need?

Sounds like just what we need?buckler

Sounds like just what we need?

Score: 6

PMJ1966
8:32am Sat 1 Feb 14

Erm.... Not sure about this one. Is he related to that North Korean chap with the crazy hair cut? Anyway1881 gang get your laughing gear around creating a new song for this dude. "Super, super Park, super, super Park super Park Chu-Young.... Nah, maybe not.

Erm.... Not sure about this one. Is he related to that North Korean chap with the crazy hair cut? Anyway1881 gang get your laughing gear around creating a new song for this dude. "Super, super Park, super, super Park super Park Chu-Young.... Nah, maybe not.PMJ1966

Erm.... Not sure about this one. Is he related to that North Korean chap with the crazy hair cut? Anyway1881 gang get your laughing gear around creating a new song for this dude. "Super, super Park, super, super Park super Park Chu-Young.... Nah, maybe not.

Score: -12

SAHornet
8:39am Sat 1 Feb 14

Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.

Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.SAHornet

Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.

Score: 30

EltonForever
8:47am Sat 1 Feb 14

SAHornet wrote…

Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.

Make that two, SAHornet!

Between VORand Cornetto, it's a laugh a minute on here!!

Keep up your intelligent postings from afar.

[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote:
Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.[/p][/quote]Make that two, SAHornet!
Between VORand Cornetto, it's a laugh a minute on here!!
Keep up your intelligent postings from afar.EltonForever

SAHornet wrote…

Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.

Make that two, SAHornet!

Between VORand Cornetto, it's a laugh a minute on here!!

Keep up your intelligent postings from afar.

Score: 20

VOReason
9:31am Sat 1 Feb 14

SAHornet wrote…

Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.

I think if you read what I said properly you ll see that I think overseas fans are great.

But that they should accept they don't have the same access to the team first hand as those who go home and away.

You make sweeping judgements on players based on one televised game in 10, without seeing how they performed the week before.

People on here criticise Cornett for being opinionated and controversial but not going to games ...

To me you are no different.

[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote:
Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.[/p][/quote]I think if you read what I said properly you ll see that I think overseas fans are great.
But that they should accept they don't have the same access to the team first hand as those who go home and away.
You make sweeping judgements on players based on one televised game in 10, without seeing how they performed the week before.
People on here criticise Cornett for being opinionated and controversial but not going to games ...
To me you are no different.VOReason

SAHornet wrote…

Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.

I think if you read what I said properly you ll see that I think overseas fans are great.

But that they should accept they don't have the same access to the team first hand as those who go home and away.

You make sweeping judgements on players based on one televised game in 10, without seeing how they performed the week before.

People on here criticise Cornett for being opinionated and controversial but not going to games ...

To me you are no different.

Score: -20

Hornankey
10:18am Sat 1 Feb 14

EltonForever wrote…

SAHornet wrote…

Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.

Make that two, SAHornet!

Between VORand Cornetto, it's a laugh a minute on here!!

Keep up your intelligent postings from afar.

I am a repatriated Hornet's fan after several years overseas - wished I had stayed away this year!

[quote][p][bold]EltonForever[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote:
Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.[/p][/quote]Make that two, SAHornet!
Between VORand Cornetto, it's a laugh a minute on here!!
Keep up your intelligent postings from afar.[/p][/quote]I am a repatriated Hornet's fan after several years overseas - wished I had stayed away this year!Hornankey

EltonForever wrote…

SAHornet wrote…

Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.

Make that two, SAHornet!

Between VORand Cornetto, it's a laugh a minute on here!!

Keep up your intelligent postings from afar.

I am a repatriated Hornet's fan after several years overseas - wished I had stayed away this year!

Score: 2

AussieHornetsFan
10:30am Sat 1 Feb 14

Sounded like he has a ton of experience and is a leader. I'm fully behind you Beppe and the horns - we can do this! The team just needs time to gel and settle - hopefully quickly.

Sounded like he has a ton of experience and is a leader. I'm fully behind you Beppe and the horns - we can do this! The team just needs time to gel and settle - hopefully quickly.AussieHornetsFan

Sounded like he has a ton of experience and is a leader. I'm fully behind you Beppe and the horns - we can do this! The team just needs time to gel and settle - hopefully quickly.

Score: 23

WilkoWave
10:33am Sat 1 Feb 14

None of these new additions have played regularly so I do hope they get the chance to play immediately to gain match fitness. We need to sort out the weakness defending the high ball in the box, have a decent holding midfielder and be more positive in midfield with 2 up front. We have got to stop the rot so time will tell if the new additions can blend in to get back to winning ways again. Keep positive all we need is a couple of wins on the bounce and we will be up and running.

None of these new additions have played regularly so I do hope they get the chance to play immediately to gain match fitness. We need to sort out the weakness defending the high ball in the box, have a decent holding midfielder and be more positive in midfield with 2 up front. We have got to stop the rot so time will tell if the new additions can blend in to get back to winning ways again. Keep positive all we need is a couple of wins on the bounce and we will be up and running.WilkoWave

None of these new additions have played regularly so I do hope they get the chance to play immediately to gain match fitness. We need to sort out the weakness defending the high ball in the box, have a decent holding midfielder and be more positive in midfield with 2 up front. We have got to stop the rot so time will tell if the new additions can blend in to get back to winning ways again. Keep positive all we need is a couple of wins on the bounce and we will be up and running.

Score: 19

bristol hornet
10:44am Sat 1 Feb 14

What is interesting is that we've signed a couple of players - on loan admittedly - from outside the Pozzo camp, maybe it has dawned on them that they may not have the recruits we need for the immediate battle.

What is interesting is that we've signed a couple of players - on loan admittedly - from outside the Pozzo camp, maybe it has dawned on them that they may not have the recruits we need for the immediate battle.bristol hornet

What is interesting is that we've signed a couple of players - on loan admittedly - from outside the Pozzo camp, maybe it has dawned on them that they may not have the recruits we need for the immediate battle.

Score: 19

stevyweavy
10:45am Sat 1 Feb 14

Hopefully a good signing - didn't see this one coming. Quite a lot of Arsenal fans are annoyed he has left Arsenal and with the carrot of World Cup football might be just what we need to get the best out of him.

Hopefully a good signing - didn't see this one coming. Quite a lot of Arsenal fans are annoyed he has left Arsenal and with the carrot of World Cup football might be just what we need to get the best out of him.stevyweavy

Hopefully a good signing - didn't see this one coming. Quite a lot of Arsenal fans are annoyed he has left Arsenal and with the carrot of World Cup football might be just what we need to get the best out of him.

Score: 25

rousman 2
10:55am Sat 1 Feb 14

Never seen him play but has got to be better than Fabbrini, 2 goals would do it.

Never seen him play but has got to be better than Fabbrini, 2 goals would do it.rousman 2

Never seen him play but has got to be better than Fabbrini, 2 goals would do it.

Score: 5

bristol hornet
10:57am Sat 1 Feb 14

So many British "gems" missed out on this window, with many of them just "loans"!

At least the Pozzo's have gone outside of their "scouting zone" for our two new signings, and hopefully this will be a good sign for for the future?

For there have been many of "their own failures" this season in Acuna, Fabbrini, Ireney, Belkalem, plus the very disappointing Faraoni, Pudil, and to a degree Foriestri?

So many British "gems" missed out on this window, with many of them just "loans"!
For a few examples, Billy Sharp, Danny Graham, Marvin Sordell, Nicky Maynard, Sam Baldock, Thorne, Tomlin, Doyle, and a few others?
At least the Pozzo's have gone outside of their "scouting zone" for our two new signings, and hopefully this will be a good sign for for the future?
For there have been many of "their own failures" this season in Acuna, Fabbrini, Ireney, Belkalem, plus the very disappointing Faraoni, Pudil, and to a degree Foriestri?bristol hornet

So many British "gems" missed out on this window, with many of them just "loans"!

At least the Pozzo's have gone outside of their "scouting zone" for our two new signings, and hopefully this will be a good sign for for the future?

For there have been many of "their own failures" this season in Acuna, Fabbrini, Ireney, Belkalem, plus the very disappointing Faraoni, Pudil, and to a degree Foriestri?

Score: -16

JohnnyBarnes
11:12am Sat 1 Feb 14

rousman 2 wrote…

Never seen him play but has got to be better than Fabbrini, 2 goals would do it.

I think that's exactly the point... and why it's been a decent couple of days in the transfer market
Fabbrini's not really adapted (although arguably not been given the chance to do so), neither has Santos - both straight swapped
I'll take that.

[quote][p][bold]rousman 2[/bold] wrote:
Never seen him play but has got to be better than Fabbrini, 2 goals would do it.[/p][/quote]I think that's exactly the point... and why it's been a decent couple of days in the transfer market
Fabbrini's not really adapted (although arguably not been given the chance to do so), neither has Santos - both straight swapped
I'll take that.JohnnyBarnes

rousman 2 wrote…

Never seen him play but has got to be better than Fabbrini, 2 goals would do it.

I think that's exactly the point... and why it's been a decent couple of days in the transfer market
Fabbrini's not really adapted (although arguably not been given the chance to do so), neither has Santos - both straight swapped
I'll take that.

Score: 7

hornetwise
11:13am Sat 1 Feb 14

WilkoWave wrote…

None of these new additions have played regularly so I do hope they get the chance to play immediately to gain match fitness. We need to sort out the weakness defending the high ball in the box, have a decent holding midfielder and be more positive in midfield with 2 up front. We have got to stop the rot so time will tell if the new additions can blend in to get back to winning ways again. Keep positive all we need is a couple of wins on the bounce and we will be up and running.

Agreed lets give them all a chance,.......
Bond in for Almunia and a new captain please who understands what wearing the armband is all about
Hall a must in defence drop ekstrand
Doley thanks but enough is enough loyalty unquestionable but your defending is questionable
Cassettii goodbye
Abdi take a rest and come back next season
Murray take stock learn from the new boys coming in
Battochio get down the gym and bulk up
Anya back to your best but please find your shooting boots
FF you are a team player best you remember
Deeney you are not going anywhere get your head out of the clouds and crack on
Merkel, Tozer ,Diakite new midfielders we welcome you please defend, attack and learn how to take bloody corners....
Park Chu-Young so he plays for Arsenal give him a chance have not even seen him play yet
Ranegie hurry up and get fit how unfit can a professional footballer be?
New beginnings again......still 19 games to go :)

[quote][p][bold]WilkoWave[/bold] wrote:
None of these new additions have played regularly so I do hope they get the chance to play immediately to gain match fitness. We need to sort out the weakness defending the high ball in the box, have a decent holding midfielder and be more positive in midfield with 2 up front. We have got to stop the rot so time will tell if the new additions can blend in to get back to winning ways again. Keep positive all we need is a couple of wins on the bounce and we will be up and running.[/p][/quote]Agreed lets give them all a chance,.......
Bond in for Almunia and a new captain please who understands what wearing the armband is all about
Hall a must in defence drop ekstrand
Doley thanks but enough is enough loyalty unquestionable but your defending is questionable
Cassettii goodbye
Abdi take a rest and come back next season
Murray take stock learn from the new boys coming in
Battochio get down the gym and bulk up
Anya back to your best but please find your shooting boots
FF you are a team player best you remember
Deeney you are not going anywhere get your head out of the clouds and crack on
Merkel, Tozer ,Diakite new midfielders we welcome you please defend, attack and learn how to take bloody corners....
Park Chu-Young so he plays for Arsenal give him a chance have not even seen him play yet
Ranegie hurry up and get fit how unfit can a professional footballer be?
New beginnings again......still 19 games to go :)hornetwise

WilkoWave wrote…

None of these new additions have played regularly so I do hope they get the chance to play immediately to gain match fitness. We need to sort out the weakness defending the high ball in the box, have a decent holding midfielder and be more positive in midfield with 2 up front. We have got to stop the rot so time will tell if the new additions can blend in to get back to winning ways again. Keep positive all we need is a couple of wins on the bounce and we will be up and running.

Agreed lets give them all a chance,.......
Bond in for Almunia and a new captain please who understands what wearing the armband is all about
Hall a must in defence drop ekstrand
Doley thanks but enough is enough loyalty unquestionable but your defending is questionable
Cassettii goodbye
Abdi take a rest and come back next season
Murray take stock learn from the new boys coming in
Battochio get down the gym and bulk up
Anya back to your best but please find your shooting boots
FF you are a team player best you remember
Deeney you are not going anywhere get your head out of the clouds and crack on
Merkel, Tozer ,Diakite new midfielders we welcome you please defend, attack and learn how to take bloody corners....
Park Chu-Young so he plays for Arsenal give him a chance have not even seen him play yet
Ranegie hurry up and get fit how unfit can a professional footballer be?
New beginnings again......still 19 games to go :)

Score: 20

Ronny oh Ronny Ronny
11:49am Sat 1 Feb 14

Chu-Young where ever you maybe
You eat dogs in your own country,
But it could be worse,
You could be in Luton,
Playin non league football with the scum

Chu-Young where ever you maybe
You eat dogs in your own country,
But it could be worse,
You could be in Luton,
Playin non league football with the scumRonny oh Ronny Ronny

Chu-Young where ever you maybe
You eat dogs in your own country,
But it could be worse,
You could be in Luton,
Playin non league football with the scum

Score: -8

JonBoy
12:12pm Sat 1 Feb 14

bristol hornet wrote…

So many British "gems" missed out on this window, with many of them just "loans"!

At least the Pozzo's have gone outside of their "scouting zone" for our two new signings, and hopefully this will be a good sign for for the future?

For there have been many of "their own failures" this season in Acuna, Fabbrini, Ireney, Belkalem, plus the very disappointing Faraoni, Pudil, and to a degree Foriestri?

Thats a bit unfair, what chance was Acuna given?

[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote:
So many British "gems" missed out on this window, with many of them just "loans"!
For a few examples, Billy Sharp, Danny Graham, Marvin Sordell, Nicky Maynard, Sam Baldock, Thorne, Tomlin, Doyle, and a few others?
At least the Pozzo's have gone outside of their "scouting zone" for our two new signings, and hopefully this will be a good sign for for the future?
For there have been many of "their own failures" this season in Acuna, Fabbrini, Ireney, Belkalem, plus the very disappointing Faraoni, Pudil, and to a degree Foriestri?[/p][/quote]Thats a bit unfair, what chance was Acuna given?JonBoy

bristol hornet wrote…

So many British "gems" missed out on this window, with many of them just "loans"!

At least the Pozzo's have gone outside of their "scouting zone" for our two new signings, and hopefully this will be a good sign for for the future?

For there have been many of "their own failures" this season in Acuna, Fabbrini, Ireney, Belkalem, plus the very disappointing Faraoni, Pudil, and to a degree Foriestri?

Thats a bit unfair, what chance was Acuna given?

Score: 9

Cuetip
12:30pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Let's hope he sparks and not just park up or pack up.

Let's hope he sparks and not just park up or pack up.Cuetip

Let's hope he sparks and not just park up or pack up.

Score: -3

WilkoWave
12:53pm Sat 1 Feb 14

hornetwise wrote…

WilkoWave wrote…

None of these new additions have played regularly so I do hope they get the chance to play immediately to gain match fitness. We need to sort out the weakness defending the high ball in the box, have a decent holding midfielder and be more positive in midfield with 2 up front. We have got to stop the rot so time will tell if the new additions can blend in to get back to winning ways again. Keep positive all we need is a couple of wins on the bounce and we will be up and running.

Agreed lets give them all a chance,.......
Bond in for Almunia and a new captain please who understands what wearing the armband is all about
Hall a must in defence drop ekstrand
Doley thanks but enough is enough loyalty unquestionable but your defending is questionable
Cassettii goodbye
Abdi take a rest and come back next season
Murray take stock learn from the new boys coming in
Battochio get down the gym and bulk up
Anya back to your best but please find your shooting boots
FF you are a team player best you remember
Deeney you are not going anywhere get your head out of the clouds and crack on
Merkel, Tozer ,Diakite new midfielders we welcome you please defend, attack and learn how to take bloody corners....
Park Chu-Young so he plays for Arsenal give him a chance have not even seen him play yet
Ranegie hurry up and get fit how unfit can a professional footballer be?
New beginnings again......still 19 games to go :)

Yes exactly

[quote][p][bold]hornetwise[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]WilkoWave[/bold] wrote:
None of these new additions have played regularly so I do hope they get the chance to play immediately to gain match fitness. We need to sort out the weakness defending the high ball in the box, have a decent holding midfielder and be more positive in midfield with 2 up front. We have got to stop the rot so time will tell if the new additions can blend in to get back to winning ways again. Keep positive all we need is a couple of wins on the bounce and we will be up and running.[/p][/quote]Agreed lets give them all a chance,.......
Bond in for Almunia and a new captain please who understands what wearing the armband is all about
Hall a must in defence drop ekstrand
Doley thanks but enough is enough loyalty unquestionable but your defending is questionable
Cassettii goodbye
Abdi take a rest and come back next season
Murray take stock learn from the new boys coming in
Battochio get down the gym and bulk up
Anya back to your best but please find your shooting boots
FF you are a team player best you remember
Deeney you are not going anywhere get your head out of the clouds and crack on
Merkel, Tozer ,Diakite new midfielders we welcome you please defend, attack and learn how to take bloody corners....
Park Chu-Young so he plays for Arsenal give him a chance have not even seen him play yet
Ranegie hurry up and get fit how unfit can a professional footballer be?
New beginnings again......still 19 games to go :)[/p][/quote]Yes exactlyWilkoWave

hornetwise wrote…

WilkoWave wrote…

None of these new additions have played regularly so I do hope they get the chance to play immediately to gain match fitness. We need to sort out the weakness defending the high ball in the box, have a decent holding midfielder and be more positive in midfield with 2 up front. We have got to stop the rot so time will tell if the new additions can blend in to get back to winning ways again. Keep positive all we need is a couple of wins on the bounce and we will be up and running.

Agreed lets give them all a chance,.......
Bond in for Almunia and a new captain please who understands what wearing the armband is all about
Hall a must in defence drop ekstrand
Doley thanks but enough is enough loyalty unquestionable but your defending is questionable
Cassettii goodbye
Abdi take a rest and come back next season
Murray take stock learn from the new boys coming in
Battochio get down the gym and bulk up
Anya back to your best but please find your shooting boots
FF you are a team player best you remember
Deeney you are not going anywhere get your head out of the clouds and crack on
Merkel, Tozer ,Diakite new midfielders we welcome you please defend, attack and learn how to take bloody corners....
Park Chu-Young so he plays for Arsenal give him a chance have not even seen him play yet
Ranegie hurry up and get fit how unfit can a professional footballer be?
New beginnings again......still 19 games to go :)

Yes exactly

Score: -1

Ramageland
1:27pm Sat 1 Feb 14

JonBoy wrote…

bristol hornet wrote…

So many British "gems" missed out on this window, with many of them just "loans"!

At least the Pozzo's have gone outside of their "scouting zone" for our two new signings, and hopefully this will be a good sign for for the future?

For there have been many of "their own failures" this season in Acuna, Fabbrini, Ireney, Belkalem, plus the very disappointing Faraoni, Pudil, and to a degree Foriestri?

Thats a bit unfair, what chance was Acuna given?

Pudil and Fessi have been fairly consistent this season. If others matched Fessi's work rate then we would not be where we are in the table.

[quote][p][bold]JonBoy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]bristol hornet[/bold] wrote:
So many British "gems" missed out on this window, with many of them just "loans"!
For a few examples, Billy Sharp, Danny Graham, Marvin Sordell, Nicky Maynard, Sam Baldock, Thorne, Tomlin, Doyle, and a few others?
At least the Pozzo's have gone outside of their "scouting zone" for our two new signings, and hopefully this will be a good sign for for the future?
For there have been many of "their own failures" this season in Acuna, Fabbrini, Ireney, Belkalem, plus the very disappointing Faraoni, Pudil, and to a degree Foriestri?[/p][/quote]Thats a bit unfair, what chance was Acuna given?[/p][/quote]Pudil and Fessi have been fairly consistent this season. If others matched Fessi's work rate then we would not be where we are in the table.Ramageland

JonBoy wrote…

bristol hornet wrote…

So many British "gems" missed out on this window, with many of them just "loans"!

At least the Pozzo's have gone outside of their "scouting zone" for our two new signings, and hopefully this will be a good sign for for the future?

For there have been many of "their own failures" this season in Acuna, Fabbrini, Ireney, Belkalem, plus the very disappointing Faraoni, Pudil, and to a degree Foriestri?

Thats a bit unfair, what chance was Acuna given?

Pudil and Fessi have been fairly consistent this season. If others matched Fessi's work rate then we would not be where we are in the table.

Score: 25

mickallen57
3:08pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Gloom and doom all round then. Come on lads get a grip. This looks like a step in the right direction . We have signed a quality striker with a point to prove .Let Park prove that he is an icon rather than a fallen star. I am sure he will .
We were all optimistic after the city game ,and rightly so. We took the game to them and should have come away with a replay . The Forest result seems to over shadow all that . We have got a good team but it will need time to gel .I believe we are moving in the right direction . With an astute manager .
The Pozzos' are doing us proud since the bought the Horns I can't remember ever having so many signing loans or other wise since I joined the ranks of the hornets fans in 69/70 season .
I couldn't agree more Wilkowave a couple of wins on the bounce and look what can happen Reading found their feet with two good wins now in the playoffs . We have the squad we have the manager we have the owners we just need the patience, COYH

Gloom and doom all round then. Come on lads get a grip. This looks like a step in the right direction . We have signed a quality striker with a point to prove .Let Park prove that he is an icon rather than a fallen star. I am sure he will .
We were all optimistic after the city game ,and rightly so. We took the game to them and should have come away with a replay . The Forest result seems to over shadow all that . We have got a good team but it will need time to gel .I believe we are moving in the right direction . With an astute manager .
The Pozzos' are doing us proud since the bought the Horns I can't remember ever having so many signing loans or other wise since I joined the ranks of the hornets fans in 69/70 season .
I couldn't agree more Wilkowave a couple of wins on the bounce and look what can happen Reading found their feet with two good wins now in the playoffs . We have the squad we have the manager we have the owners we just need the patience, COYHmickallen57

Gloom and doom all round then. Come on lads get a grip. This looks like a step in the right direction . We have signed a quality striker with a point to prove .Let Park prove that he is an icon rather than a fallen star. I am sure he will .
We were all optimistic after the city game ,and rightly so. We took the game to them and should have come away with a replay . The Forest result seems to over shadow all that . We have got a good team but it will need time to gel .I believe we are moving in the right direction . With an astute manager .
The Pozzos' are doing us proud since the bought the Horns I can't remember ever having so many signing loans or other wise since I joined the ranks of the hornets fans in 69/70 season .
I couldn't agree more Wilkowave a couple of wins on the bounce and look what can happen Reading found their feet with two good wins now in the playoffs . We have the squad we have the manager we have the owners we just need the patience, COYH

Score: 23

andyhooked
4:14pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Will we change the format of the team or just rotate and bring someone on when things get desperate. Oh bring back the 4-2-4 when we used to be top dogs under GT.

Will we change the format of the team or just rotate and bring someone on when things get desperate. Oh bring back the 4-2-4 when we used to be top dogs under GT.andyhooked

Will we change the format of the team or just rotate and bring someone on when things get desperate. Oh bring back the 4-2-4 when we used to be top dogs under GT.

Score: -3

WessexLad
5:02pm Sat 1 Feb 14

andyhooked wrote…

Will we change the format of the team or just rotate and bring someone on when things get desperate. Oh bring back the 4-2-4 when we used to be top dogs under GT.

3-5-2 (or 3-6-1, with FF fetching and carrying) tore Man City to shreds. It was when we reinforced the defence at the expense of midfield that we fell apart.

I do hope that Park and Deeney hit it off. With his level of experience, he should be able to anticipate the Deeney knock-downs, a skill that none of his other partners has acquired.

[quote][p][bold]andyhooked[/bold] wrote:
Will we change the format of the team or just rotate and bring someone on when things get desperate. Oh bring back the 4-2-4 when we used to be top dogs under GT.[/p][/quote]3-5-2 (or 3-6-1, with FF fetching and carrying) tore Man City to shreds. It was when we reinforced the defence at the expense of midfield that we fell apart.
I do hope that Park and Deeney hit it off. With his level of experience, he should be able to anticipate the Deeney knock-downs, a skill that none of his other partners has acquired.WessexLad

andyhooked wrote…

Will we change the format of the team or just rotate and bring someone on when things get desperate. Oh bring back the 4-2-4 when we used to be top dogs under GT.

3-5-2 (or 3-6-1, with FF fetching and carrying) tore Man City to shreds. It was when we reinforced the defence at the expense of midfield that we fell apart.

I do hope that Park and Deeney hit it off. With his level of experience, he should be able to anticipate the Deeney knock-downs, a skill that none of his other partners has acquired.

Score: 8

Vespa1
6:10pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Park has made 61 appearances for S Korea. So, just a thought, will he, when he takes to the field for Watford, be the most capped player ever to do so?

(John Barnes & Pat Jennings had more caps but most of them were after they left WFC)

Park has made 61 appearances for S Korea. So, just a thought, will he, when he takes to the field for Watford, be the most capped player ever to do so?
(John Barnes & Pat Jennings had more caps but most of them were after they left WFC)Vespa1

Park has made 61 appearances for S Korea. So, just a thought, will he, when he takes to the field for Watford, be the most capped player ever to do so?

(John Barnes & Pat Jennings had more caps but most of them were after they left WFC)

Score: 6

Essex Hornet
7:08pm Sat 1 Feb 14

It was a bit late in the day but the mystery striker has arrived. A warm Watford welcome to Park Chu Young or "Parky" as I'm sure he will be soon be known to his team mates. This guy has something to prove if he wants to make the South Korean squad in the World Cup and what better place to do it than with us. I reckon he could be a good addition to the squad, he has alot of experience of playing at a higher level and has some goals in him. Okay he is not a prolific scorer but how many of them were transfered on loan during this transfer window??
The key thing must be to gell these guys into a cohesive unit as soon as possible and at the same time get some points on the board. That is never easy at the best of times but it's even harder with the position we are in. We now really need to get behind Beppe and the lads, give them all a chance to impress and start getting some points. COYH

It was a bit late in the day but the mystery striker has arrived. A warm Watford welcome to Park Chu Young or "Parky" as I'm sure he will be soon be known to his team mates. This guy has something to prove if he wants to make the South Korean squad in the World Cup and what better place to do it than with us. I reckon he could be a good addition to the squad, he has alot of experience of playing at a higher level and has some goals in him. Okay he is not a prolific scorer but how many of them were transfered on loan during this transfer window??
The key thing must be to gell these guys into a cohesive unit as soon as possible and at the same time get some points on the board. That is never easy at the best of times but it's even harder with the position we are in. We now really need to get behind Beppe and the lads, give them all a chance to impress and start getting some points. COYHEssex Hornet

It was a bit late in the day but the mystery striker has arrived. A warm Watford welcome to Park Chu Young or "Parky" as I'm sure he will be soon be known to his team mates. This guy has something to prove if he wants to make the South Korean squad in the World Cup and what better place to do it than with us. I reckon he could be a good addition to the squad, he has alot of experience of playing at a higher level and has some goals in him. Okay he is not a prolific scorer but how many of them were transfered on loan during this transfer window??
The key thing must be to gell these guys into a cohesive unit as soon as possible and at the same time get some points on the board. That is never easy at the best of times but it's even harder with the position we are in. We now really need to get behind Beppe and the lads, give them all a chance to impress and start getting some points. COYH

Score: 10

exeterhornet
8:40pm Sat 1 Feb 14

Am I the only one who thinks the club seems to be utter chaos on the playing side at the moment. No stability, constant comings and goings, About 1000 midfielders and a wholly underwhelming stable of strikers. We messed up big time last year. We were spoilt and so this season seems such a disappointment. I will tell you how bad I think it's got - when we went 2-0 up on Thursday I phoned my Bill Hill account and placed £20 on Forest to win at 16-1. Doesn't make me a traitor, but a realist. Anyone with half a brain could see were all over the place at the back, despite leading, and that if Forest scored one before the hour, they would score a hatful. No pride, no urgency. Really feeling low at the moment

Am I the only one who thinks the club seems to be utter chaos on the playing side at the moment. No stability, constant comings and goings, About 1000 midfielders and a wholly underwhelming stable of strikers. We messed up big time last year. We were spoilt and so this season seems such a disappointment. I will tell you how bad I think it's got - when we went 2-0 up on Thursday I phoned my Bill Hill account and placed £20 on Forest to win at 16-1. Doesn't make me a traitor, but a realist. Anyone with half a brain could see were all over the place at the back, despite leading, and that if Forest scored one before the hour, they would score a hatful. No pride, no urgency. Really feeling low at the momentexeterhornet

Am I the only one who thinks the club seems to be utter chaos on the playing side at the moment. No stability, constant comings and goings, About 1000 midfielders and a wholly underwhelming stable of strikers. We messed up big time last year. We were spoilt and so this season seems such a disappointment. I will tell you how bad I think it's got - when we went 2-0 up on Thursday I phoned my Bill Hill account and placed £20 on Forest to win at 16-1. Doesn't make me a traitor, but a realist. Anyone with half a brain could see were all over the place at the back, despite leading, and that if Forest scored one before the hour, they would score a hatful. No pride, no urgency. Really feeling low at the moment

Score: 3

Henry VIII
1:47am Sun 2 Feb 14

Exeter, I can see your point. I have felt, and always will that last May was our big chance and probably on that day, a GT or Boothroyd would have made the players realize the enormous importance of that opportunity. That is not meant to be a criticism of GFZ, but some people are leaders, motivators and know how to get there squad fired up. To be fair with everyone at the club, we lost major players in the summer, the likes of Eustace, and when they left, I think we were all so excited by the new arrivals that we all felt this season was going to be somewhat easier, based upon the excellent season we had all enjoyed...and lets be fair, despite the Palace loss, it was a great season. Come this season, something (and I cannot explain it) has not felt right from day one. I love the financial stability that the Pozzos have bought us, we are far more stable than when the previous people were here. However, we have probably only put in two decent performances for a full ninety minutes twice this season, and in such a competitive league you cannot expect to achieve anything like last year with these often passive performances. I like Sannino very much, but I feel that the whole purpose of this season for him was to keep us stable, hence he is on contract until May. The table never lies and I don't think it will start doing so. Right now the reality is we are facing a potential relegation fight, we need to start getting a few wins under our belt - and if we do that then we can look ahead to possibly better things. But right now our defence looks shaky, the whole squad is just not right, a far cry from the opening 45 minutes last weekend, and the frustration at the potential in this squad. I am happy with the signings, but right now I think we need a few points to steady us and if this season ends up as a mid-table affair, personally I will settle for that. We are not the first club to be in this position - and the beauty of being a fan, is there is always next year. I would love to see our boys finish top six, but for now I would settle for mid table and a new approach next season. I also think too many people (I'm not referring to WFC fans on this point) underestimate just what an amazing and tough division this really is.

Exeter, I can see your point. I have felt, and always will that last May was our big chance and probably on that day, a GT or Boothroyd would have made the players realize the enormous importance of that opportunity. That is not meant to be a criticism of GFZ, but some people are leaders, motivators and know how to get there squad fired up. To be fair with everyone at the club, we lost major players in the summer, the likes of Eustace, and when they left, I think we were all so excited by the new arrivals that we all felt this season was going to be somewhat easier, based upon the excellent season we had all enjoyed...and lets be fair, despite the Palace loss, it was a great season. Come this season, something (and I cannot explain it) has not felt right from day one. I love the financial stability that the Pozzos have bought us, we are far more stable than when the previous people were here. However, we have probably only put in two decent performances for a full ninety minutes twice this season, and in such a competitive league you cannot expect to achieve anything like last year with these often passive performances. I like Sannino very much, but I feel that the whole purpose of this season for him was to keep us stable, hence he is on contract until May. The table never lies and I don't think it will start doing so. Right now the reality is we are facing a potential relegation fight, we need to start getting a few wins under our belt - and if we do that then we can look ahead to possibly better things. But right now our defence looks shaky, the whole squad is just not right, a far cry from the opening 45 minutes last weekend, and the frustration at the potential in this squad. I am happy with the signings, but right now I think we need a few points to steady us and if this season ends up as a mid-table affair, personally I will settle for that. We are not the first club to be in this position - and the beauty of being a fan, is there is always next year. I would love to see our boys finish top six, but for now I would settle for mid table and a new approach next season. I also think too many people (I'm not referring to WFC fans on this point) underestimate just what an amazing and tough division this really is.Henry VIII

Exeter, I can see your point. I have felt, and always will that last May was our big chance and probably on that day, a GT or Boothroyd would have made the players realize the enormous importance of that opportunity. That is not meant to be a criticism of GFZ, but some people are leaders, motivators and know how to get there squad fired up. To be fair with everyone at the club, we lost major players in the summer, the likes of Eustace, and when they left, I think we were all so excited by the new arrivals that we all felt this season was going to be somewhat easier, based upon the excellent season we had all enjoyed...and lets be fair, despite the Palace loss, it was a great season. Come this season, something (and I cannot explain it) has not felt right from day one. I love the financial stability that the Pozzos have bought us, we are far more stable than when the previous people were here. However, we have probably only put in two decent performances for a full ninety minutes twice this season, and in such a competitive league you cannot expect to achieve anything like last year with these often passive performances. I like Sannino very much, but I feel that the whole purpose of this season for him was to keep us stable, hence he is on contract until May. The table never lies and I don't think it will start doing so. Right now the reality is we are facing a potential relegation fight, we need to start getting a few wins under our belt - and if we do that then we can look ahead to possibly better things. But right now our defence looks shaky, the whole squad is just not right, a far cry from the opening 45 minutes last weekend, and the frustration at the potential in this squad. I am happy with the signings, but right now I think we need a few points to steady us and if this season ends up as a mid-table affair, personally I will settle for that. We are not the first club to be in this position - and the beauty of being a fan, is there is always next year. I would love to see our boys finish top six, but for now I would settle for mid table and a new approach next season. I also think too many people (I'm not referring to WFC fans on this point) underestimate just what an amazing and tough division this really is.

Score: 11

tonyevans22
6:52am Sun 2 Feb 14

I have said before,If this lot have a world pool of talented players through there scouting system then where are they or does Nani require glasses,because apart from Abdi,Vydra,Anya,Ekst
rand,FF,the rest have been pretty poor.Loan them in,loan them out,play half a dozen games,off you go,it is becoming a joke.

I have said before,If this lot have a world pool of talented players through there scouting system then where are they or does Nani require glasses,because apart from Abdi,Vydra,Anya,Ekst
rand,FF,the rest have been pretty poor.Loan them in,loan them out,play half a dozen games,off you go,it is becoming a joke.tonyevans22

I have said before,If this lot have a world pool of talented players through there scouting system then where are they or does Nani require glasses,because apart from Abdi,Vydra,Anya,Ekst
rand,FF,the rest have been pretty poor.Loan them in,loan them out,play half a dozen games,off you go,it is becoming a joke.

Score: 0

endean2
8:44am Sun 2 Feb 14

exeterhornet wrote…

Am I the only one who thinks the club seems to be utter chaos on the playing side at the moment. No stability, constant comings and goings, About 1000 midfielders and a wholly underwhelming stable of strikers. We messed up big time last year. We were spoilt and so this season seems such a disappointment. I will tell you how bad I think it's got - when we went 2-0 up on Thursday I phoned my Bill Hill account and placed £20 on Forest to win at 16-1. Doesn't make me a traitor, but a realist. Anyone with half a brain could see were all over the place at the back, despite leading, and that if Forest scored one before the hour, they would score a hatful. No pride, no urgency. Really feeling low at the moment

spot on Exeter
wish I had put that bet on myself, we were a total shambles waiting for a car
crash...............
.........
very sad to state but the truth.We have NO leadership on the field and
its causing us majour problems

[quote][p][bold]exeterhornet[/bold] wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the club seems to be utter chaos on the playing side at the moment. No stability, constant comings and goings, About 1000 midfielders and a wholly underwhelming stable of strikers. We messed up big time last year. We were spoilt and so this season seems such a disappointment. I will tell you how bad I think it's got - when we went 2-0 up on Thursday I phoned my Bill Hill account and placed £20 on Forest to win at 16-1. Doesn't make me a traitor, but a realist. Anyone with half a brain could see were all over the place at the back, despite leading, and that if Forest scored one before the hour, they would score a hatful. No pride, no urgency. Really feeling low at the moment[/p][/quote]spot on Exeter
wish I had put that bet on myself, we were a total shambles waiting for a car
crash...............
.........
very sad to state but the truth.We have NO leadership on the field and
its causing us majour problemsendean2

exeterhornet wrote…

Am I the only one who thinks the club seems to be utter chaos on the playing side at the moment. No stability, constant comings and goings, About 1000 midfielders and a wholly underwhelming stable of strikers. We messed up big time last year. We were spoilt and so this season seems such a disappointment. I will tell you how bad I think it's got - when we went 2-0 up on Thursday I phoned my Bill Hill account and placed £20 on Forest to win at 16-1. Doesn't make me a traitor, but a realist. Anyone with half a brain could see were all over the place at the back, despite leading, and that if Forest scored one before the hour, they would score a hatful. No pride, no urgency. Really feeling low at the moment

spot on Exeter
wish I had put that bet on myself, we were a total shambles waiting for a car
crash...............
.........
very sad to state but the truth.We have NO leadership on the field and
its causing us majour problems

Score: 5

VOReason
9:02am Sun 2 Feb 14

tonyevans22 wrote…

I have said before,If this lot have a world pool of talented players through there scouting system then where are they or does Nani require glasses,because apart from Abdi,Vydra,Anya,Ekst

rand,FF,the rest have been pretty poor.Loan them in,loan them out,play half a dozen games,off you go,it is becoming a joke.

The pozzo model overachieved last year.

They sent unproven players eg vydra and battochio and players fairly low down the udinese pecking order eg neuton abdi pudil foristieri etc

This year the plan was obviously to send better players and they expected success. Faraoni fabbrini acuna and angella have far bigger reputations in the Italian and world game hence udinese fans were so upset to lose faraoni and angella

However recent additions have been less suited to the championship, opposition managers know what to expect from us plus there is a lack of confidence.

Staying up this year is imperative, rethink the game plan, find out which foreigners really want to be here and sell / send the rest back.

Someone has to realise the importance of championship experience and and English spine

[quote][p][bold]tonyevans22[/bold] wrote:
I have said before,If this lot have a world pool of talented players through there scouting system then where are they or does Nani require glasses,because apart from Abdi,Vydra,Anya,Ekst
rand,FF,the rest have been pretty poor.Loan them in,loan them out,play half a dozen games,off you go,it is becoming a joke.[/p][/quote]The pozzo model overachieved last year.
They sent unproven players eg vydra and battochio and players fairly low down the udinese pecking order eg neuton abdi pudil foristieri etc
This year the plan was obviously to send better players and they expected success. Faraoni fabbrini acuna and angella have far bigger reputations in the Italian and world game hence udinese fans were so upset to lose faraoni and angella
However recent additions have been less suited to the championship, opposition managers know what to expect from us plus there is a lack of confidence.
Staying up this year is imperative, rethink the game plan, find out which foreigners really want to be here and sell / send the rest back.
Someone has to realise the importance of championship experience and and English spineVOReason

tonyevans22 wrote…

I have said before,If this lot have a world pool of talented players through there scouting system then where are they or does Nani require glasses,because apart from Abdi,Vydra,Anya,Ekst

rand,FF,the rest have been pretty poor.Loan them in,loan them out,play half a dozen games,off you go,it is becoming a joke.

The pozzo model overachieved last year.

They sent unproven players eg vydra and battochio and players fairly low down the udinese pecking order eg neuton abdi pudil foristieri etc

This year the plan was obviously to send better players and they expected success. Faraoni fabbrini acuna and angella have far bigger reputations in the Italian and world game hence udinese fans were so upset to lose faraoni and angella

However recent additions have been less suited to the championship, opposition managers know what to expect from us plus there is a lack of confidence.

Staying up this year is imperative, rethink the game plan, find out which foreigners really want to be here and sell / send the rest back.

Someone has to realise the importance of championship experience and and English spine

Score: 1

Hornet Cornet
10:26am Sun 2 Feb 14

endean2 wrote…

exeterhornet wrote…

Am I the only one who thinks the club seems to be utter chaos on the playing side at the moment. No stability, constant comings and goings, About 1000 midfielders and a wholly underwhelming stable of strikers. We messed up big time last year. We were spoilt and so this season seems such a disappointment. I will tell you how bad I think it's got - when we went 2-0 up on Thursday I phoned my Bill Hill account and placed £20 on Forest to win at 16-1. Doesn't make me a traitor, but a realist. Anyone with half a brain could see were all over the place at the back, despite leading, and that if Forest scored one before the hour, they would score a hatful. No pride, no urgency. Really feeling low at the moment

spot on Exeter
wish I had put that bet on myself, we were a total shambles waiting for a car
crash...............

.........
very sad to state but the truth.We have NO leadership on the field and
its causing us majour problems

The world of reality is a tough place to be but this is where we need to be for anything to change. The balance of the squad was good last year. This year there is no balance. Nani has purchased so poorly that he should not still be in role.

[quote][p][bold]endean2[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]exeterhornet[/bold] wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the club seems to be utter chaos on the playing side at the moment. No stability, constant comings and goings, About 1000 midfielders and a wholly underwhelming stable of strikers. We messed up big time last year. We were spoilt and so this season seems such a disappointment. I will tell you how bad I think it's got - when we went 2-0 up on Thursday I phoned my Bill Hill account and placed £20 on Forest to win at 16-1. Doesn't make me a traitor, but a realist. Anyone with half a brain could see were all over the place at the back, despite leading, and that if Forest scored one before the hour, they would score a hatful. No pride, no urgency. Really feeling low at the moment[/p][/quote]spot on Exeter
wish I had put that bet on myself, we were a total shambles waiting for a car
crash...............
.........
very sad to state but the truth.We have NO leadership on the field and
its causing us majour problems[/p][/quote]The world of reality is a tough place to be but this is where we need to be for anything to change. The balance of the squad was good last year. This year there is no balance. Nani has purchased so poorly that he should not still be in role.Hornet Cornet

endean2 wrote…

exeterhornet wrote…

Am I the only one who thinks the club seems to be utter chaos on the playing side at the moment. No stability, constant comings and goings, About 1000 midfielders and a wholly underwhelming stable of strikers. We messed up big time last year. We were spoilt and so this season seems such a disappointment. I will tell you how bad I think it's got - when we went 2-0 up on Thursday I phoned my Bill Hill account and placed £20 on Forest to win at 16-1. Doesn't make me a traitor, but a realist. Anyone with half a brain could see were all over the place at the back, despite leading, and that if Forest scored one before the hour, they would score a hatful. No pride, no urgency. Really feeling low at the moment

spot on Exeter
wish I had put that bet on myself, we were a total shambles waiting for a car
crash...............

.........
very sad to state but the truth.We have NO leadership on the field and
its causing us majour problems

The world of reality is a tough place to be but this is where we need to be for anything to change. The balance of the squad was good last year. This year there is no balance. Nani has purchased so poorly that he should not still be in role.

Score: 2

KeithMercer
11:02am Sun 2 Feb 14

Henry VIII wrote…

Exeter, I can see your point. I have felt, and always will that last May was our big chance and probably on that day, a GT or Boothroyd would have made the players realize the enormous importance of that opportunity. That is not meant to be a criticism of GFZ, but some people are leaders, motivators and know how to get there squad fired up. To be fair with everyone at the club, we lost major players in the summer, the likes of Eustace, and when they left, I think we were all so excited by the new arrivals that we all felt this season was going to be somewhat easier, based upon the excellent season we had all enjoyed...and lets be fair, despite the Palace loss, it was a great season. Come this season, something (and I cannot explain it) has not felt right from day one. I love the financial stability that the Pozzos have bought us, we are far more stable than when the previous people were here. However, we have probably only put in two decent performances for a full ninety minutes twice this season, and in such a competitive league you cannot expect to achieve anything like last year with these often passive performances. I like Sannino very much, but I feel that the whole purpose of this season for him was to keep us stable, hence he is on contract until May. The table never lies and I don't think it will start doing so. Right now the reality is we are facing a potential relegation fight, we need to start getting a few wins under our belt - and if we do that then we can look ahead to possibly better things. But right now our defence looks shaky, the whole squad is just not right, a far cry from the opening 45 minutes last weekend, and the frustration at the potential in this squad. I am happy with the signings, but right now I think we need a few points to steady us and if this season ends up as a mid-table affair, personally I will settle for that. We are not the first club to be in this position - and the beauty of being a fan, is there is always next year. I would love to see our boys finish top six, but for now I would settle for mid table and a new approach next season. I also think too many people (I'm not referring to WFC fans on this point) underestimate just what an amazing and tough division this really is.

Excellent Post ! Gold Star

[quote][p][bold]Henry VIII[/bold] wrote:
Exeter, I can see your point. I have felt, and always will that last May was our big chance and probably on that day, a GT or Boothroyd would have made the players realize the enormous importance of that opportunity. That is not meant to be a criticism of GFZ, but some people are leaders, motivators and know how to get there squad fired up. To be fair with everyone at the club, we lost major players in the summer, the likes of Eustace, and when they left, I think we were all so excited by the new arrivals that we all felt this season was going to be somewhat easier, based upon the excellent season we had all enjoyed...and lets be fair, despite the Palace loss, it was a great season. Come this season, something (and I cannot explain it) has not felt right from day one. I love the financial stability that the Pozzos have bought us, we are far more stable than when the previous people were here. However, we have probably only put in two decent performances for a full ninety minutes twice this season, and in such a competitive league you cannot expect to achieve anything like last year with these often passive performances. I like Sannino very much, but I feel that the whole purpose of this season for him was to keep us stable, hence he is on contract until May. The table never lies and I don't think it will start doing so. Right now the reality is we are facing a potential relegation fight, we need to start getting a few wins under our belt - and if we do that then we can look ahead to possibly better things. But right now our defence looks shaky, the whole squad is just not right, a far cry from the opening 45 minutes last weekend, and the frustration at the potential in this squad. I am happy with the signings, but right now I think we need a few points to steady us and if this season ends up as a mid-table affair, personally I will settle for that. We are not the first club to be in this position - and the beauty of being a fan, is there is always next year. I would love to see our boys finish top six, but for now I would settle for mid table and a new approach next season. I also think too many people (I'm not referring to WFC fans on this point) underestimate just what an amazing and tough division this really is.[/p][/quote]Excellent Post ! Gold StarKeithMercer

Henry VIII wrote…

Exeter, I can see your point. I have felt, and always will that last May was our big chance and probably on that day, a GT or Boothroyd would have made the players realize the enormous importance of that opportunity. That is not meant to be a criticism of GFZ, but some people are leaders, motivators and know how to get there squad fired up. To be fair with everyone at the club, we lost major players in the summer, the likes of Eustace, and when they left, I think we were all so excited by the new arrivals that we all felt this season was going to be somewhat easier, based upon the excellent season we had all enjoyed...and lets be fair, despite the Palace loss, it was a great season. Come this season, something (and I cannot explain it) has not felt right from day one. I love the financial stability that the Pozzos have bought us, we are far more stable than when the previous people were here. However, we have probably only put in two decent performances for a full ninety minutes twice this season, and in such a competitive league you cannot expect to achieve anything like last year with these often passive performances. I like Sannino very much, but I feel that the whole purpose of this season for him was to keep us stable, hence he is on contract until May. The table never lies and I don't think it will start doing so. Right now the reality is we are facing a potential relegation fight, we need to start getting a few wins under our belt - and if we do that then we can look ahead to possibly better things. But right now our defence looks shaky, the whole squad is just not right, a far cry from the opening 45 minutes last weekend, and the frustration at the potential in this squad. I am happy with the signings, but right now I think we need a few points to steady us and if this season ends up as a mid-table affair, personally I will settle for that. We are not the first club to be in this position - and the beauty of being a fan, is there is always next year. I would love to see our boys finish top six, but for now I would settle for mid table and a new approach next season. I also think too many people (I'm not referring to WFC fans on this point) underestimate just what an amazing and tough division this really is.

Excellent Post ! Gold Star

Score: 2

Essex Hornet
11:34am Sun 2 Feb 14

exeterhornet wrote…

Am I the only one who thinks the club seems to be utter chaos on the playing side at the moment. No stability, constant comings and goings, About 1000 midfielders and a wholly underwhelming stable of strikers. We messed up big time last year. We were spoilt and so this season seems such a disappointment. I will tell you how bad I think it's got - when we went 2-0 up on Thursday I phoned my Bill Hill account and placed £20 on Forest to win at 16-1. Doesn't make me a traitor, but a realist. Anyone with half a brain could see were all over the place at the back, despite leading, and that if Forest scored one before the hour, they would score a hatful. No pride, no urgency. Really feeling low at the moment

Sounds like beers alround then! Perhaps we could meet up and you can choose my lottery numbers. Good on you with the bet and congrats on a tidy win. Just a shame we couldn't get the three points aswell.

[quote][p][bold]exeterhornet[/bold] wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks the club seems to be utter chaos on the playing side at the moment. No stability, constant comings and goings, About 1000 midfielders and a wholly underwhelming stable of strikers. We messed up big time last year. We were spoilt and so this season seems such a disappointment. I will tell you how bad I think it's got - when we went 2-0 up on Thursday I phoned my Bill Hill account and placed £20 on Forest to win at 16-1. Doesn't make me a traitor, but a realist. Anyone with half a brain could see were all over the place at the back, despite leading, and that if Forest scored one before the hour, they would score a hatful. No pride, no urgency. Really feeling low at the moment[/p][/quote]Sounds like beers alround then! Perhaps we could meet up and you can choose my lottery numbers. Good on you with the bet and congrats on a tidy win. Just a shame we couldn't get the three points aswell.Essex Hornet

exeterhornet wrote…

Am I the only one who thinks the club seems to be utter chaos on the playing side at the moment. No stability, constant comings and goings, About 1000 midfielders and a wholly underwhelming stable of strikers. We messed up big time last year. We were spoilt and so this season seems such a disappointment. I will tell you how bad I think it's got - when we went 2-0 up on Thursday I phoned my Bill Hill account and placed £20 on Forest to win at 16-1. Doesn't make me a traitor, but a realist. Anyone with half a brain could see were all over the place at the back, despite leading, and that if Forest scored one before the hour, they would score a hatful. No pride, no urgency. Really feeling low at the moment

Sounds like beers alround then! Perhaps we could meet up and you can choose my lottery numbers. Good on you with the bet and congrats on a tidy win. Just a shame we couldn't get the three points aswell.

Score: 1

Terry Dactile
12:47pm Sun 2 Feb 14

I am really sad about this season, after the most expectancy I can ever remember as a Watford fan, we are no better off than under Dyche or Mackay. We were always the underdog in those days and the pleasure came with us doing so much better than anyone expected, this was also was true under previous regimes. I am really also sorry that Gianfranco and his brand of football has gone, and we now have another manager, who I hope is not going to be let down in the same way Gianfranco was. He has passion and a lot of good things I want from a manager. The problem is the squad. Our director of football has caused a shambles. We have so much good at our disposal, but we have ended up with a bits and pieces squad with clique's etc. Nani clearly has no coherent plan for the squad, having 3 summer signings already leave on loan, is not embarrassing it is incompetent. I wait and see on the current signings, but from his record this season I am very concerned. Can anyone tell me a successful signing this season other than Angella and the previous loanees? Considering the amount of players he has brought in that is a disgrace! Surely the Pozzo's must be asking the same questions! I really thank them for all they have done for our club, but I hope they soon see the real problem at the club and deal with it!

Danny Graham was such an obvious signing for us, but we got a load more foreign players, who have no connection to our club!

I am really sad about this season, after the most expectancy I can ever remember as a Watford fan, we are no better off than under Dyche or Mackay. We were always the underdog in those days and the pleasure came with us doing so much better than anyone expected, this was also was true under previous regimes. I am really also sorry that Gianfranco and his brand of football has gone, and we now have another manager, who I hope is not going to be let down in the same way Gianfranco was. He has passion and a lot of good things I want from a manager. The problem is the squad. Our director of football has caused a shambles. We have so much good at our disposal, but we have ended up with a bits and pieces squad with clique's etc. Nani clearly has no coherent plan for the squad, having 3 summer signings already leave on loan, is not embarrassing it is incompetent. I wait and see on the current signings, but from his record this season I am very concerned. Can anyone tell me a successful signing this season other than Angella and the previous loanees? Considering the amount of players he has brought in that is a disgrace! Surely the Pozzo's must be asking the same questions! I really thank them for all they have done for our club, but I hope they soon see the real problem at the club and deal with it!
Danny Graham was such an obvious signing for us, but we got a load more foreign players, who have no connection to our club!Terry Dactile

I am really sad about this season, after the most expectancy I can ever remember as a Watford fan, we are no better off than under Dyche or Mackay. We were always the underdog in those days and the pleasure came with us doing so much better than anyone expected, this was also was true under previous regimes. I am really also sorry that Gianfranco and his brand of football has gone, and we now have another manager, who I hope is not going to be let down in the same way Gianfranco was. He has passion and a lot of good things I want from a manager. The problem is the squad. Our director of football has caused a shambles. We have so much good at our disposal, but we have ended up with a bits and pieces squad with clique's etc. Nani clearly has no coherent plan for the squad, having 3 summer signings already leave on loan, is not embarrassing it is incompetent. I wait and see on the current signings, but from his record this season I am very concerned. Can anyone tell me a successful signing this season other than Angella and the previous loanees? Considering the amount of players he has brought in that is a disgrace! Surely the Pozzo's must be asking the same questions! I really thank them for all they have done for our club, but I hope they soon see the real problem at the club and deal with it!

Danny Graham was such an obvious signing for us, but we got a load more foreign players, who have no connection to our club!

Score: 4

rousman 2
1:21pm Sun 2 Feb 14

Sack Nani he signs the player's that is where the problem lies.

Sack Nani he signs the player's that is where the problem lies.rousman 2

Sack Nani he signs the player's that is where the problem lies.

Score: 0

gloryhornet4
12:31am Sat 1 Mar 14

EltonForever wrote…

SAHornet wrote…

Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.

Make that two, SAHornet!

Between VORand Cornetto, it's a laugh a minute on here!!

Keep up your intelligent postings from afar.

Having lived in Malta - how spirits are lifted when I used to see a Brit on hol in a Watford shirt and the kit proudly displayed at overseas test matches.

Let's be proud and embrace that Watford are a global brand.

Let's not slag off our own supporters on this site - we're family.

As to the ref "park the bus" - that expression was used about Watford's draw at Leicester in their local rag - saying Watford parked their bus in midfield - ignorant t055er5 - you park your bus across your goal to block it.

[quote][p][bold]EltonForever[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]SAHornet[/bold] wrote:
Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.[/p][/quote]Make that two, SAHornet!
Between VORand Cornetto, it's a laugh a minute on here!!
Keep up your intelligent postings from afar.[/p][/quote]Having lived in Malta - how spirits are lifted when I used to see a Brit on hol in a Watford shirt and the kit proudly displayed at overseas test matches.
Let's be proud and embrace that Watford are a global brand.
Let's not slag off our own supporters on this site - we're family.
As to the ref "park the bus" - that expression was used about Watford's draw at Leicester in their local rag - saying Watford parked their bus in midfield - ignorant t055er5 - you park your bus across your goal to block it.gloryhornet4

EltonForever wrote…

SAHornet wrote…

Let's give him a chance to see what he can do. Hope you don't mind me posting VOR. Maybe I should have asked your permission first, eh being as how I'm just one of those useless overseas Watford fans.

Make that two, SAHornet!

Between VORand Cornetto, it's a laugh a minute on here!!

Keep up your intelligent postings from afar.

Having lived in Malta - how spirits are lifted when I used to see a Brit on hol in a Watford shirt and the kit proudly displayed at overseas test matches.

Let's be proud and embrace that Watford are a global brand.

Let's not slag off our own supporters on this site - we're family.

As to the ref "park the bus" - that expression was used about Watford's draw at Leicester in their local rag - saying Watford parked their bus in midfield - ignorant t055er5 - you park your bus across your goal to block it.

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