<quoted text>One of the core values of every major religion we know of is that homosexuality is an abomination before God.

Not true, but even if it were, so what?If you're not a member of one of those religions, you shouldn't have to deal with their beliefs.

Prof Marvel wrote:

You keep identifying this precept as that of only "hard-line" religion, but that's deception on your part.I won't bother to present the tens of admonitions against homosexuality from both the Bible.You need to stop misleading everyone and admit that homosexuality and the Bible cannot co-exist.<quoted text>

Reality and the buy-bull cannot co-exist.

Prof Marvel wrote:

Once again the Bible expressly prohibits homosexuality, so unless you're talking about a church or denomination that doesn't follow the Bible you're engaging in disinformation.==========ASV:(American Standard Version, 1901) "And if a man lie with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."Darby:(J.N. Darby Translation, 1890): "And if a man lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall certainly be put to death; their blood is upon them."ESV:(English Standard Version): "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."HNV:(Hebrew Names Version): "If a man lies with a male, as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."KJV:(King James Version): "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them."Etc., etc., etc.

<quoted text>Not only don't I hate gays, I've always written there is nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality.

Liar. Your posts are full of contempt for homosexuals.

Brian_G wrote:

This comment:"We criminalized bigamy to stop polygamy; maybe we should criminalize same sex marriage."I don't see how we have any other choice after an unelected judge voided the law and the will of the people of California. BTW, same sex marriage isn't the same as sodomy.

<quoted text>I know you like to juggle the testicales of anonymous men, but lies, as well? Not only are you being a dishonest c*nt, but also a daft one. Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism are a-okay with homosexuality. Judaism, which isn't orthodox, is fine with it too. Only real players that have a problem with it are fundie Christians and Muslims. Also, "abomination"? You mean like that thing growing from out of your skull that looks like radioactive moss? Instead of taking yourself fully out of the closet, you're taking that word fully out of context. Great. Also, riddle me this: If homosexuality is to abhorrent to this sky daddy, then why did he create it?Side Note: Religion, overall, is a joke.

I've edited out the balance of your post because your last line in the middle of it is sufficient evidence to support my point about the homosexual lifestyle -- it can't co-exist with religion.

People who call religion "a joke," are disbelievers, son, all your bending and twisting to hide this truism notwithstanding.

And as we see above, your bending and twisting can get pretty creative -- "Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism are a-okay with homosexuality."

Dude, that's ridiculous and you know it.

That's desperation.

That's turning your back on everything you were raised to believe -- everything the 10 generations that preceded you were raised to believe!-- in order to keep getting your fudge packed.

Honestly, Dude, is getting corn holed that incredibly pleasurable that you would turn your back (no pun) on your Judeo-Christian heritage and become a dot head Hindu in order to keep getting some?

<quoted text>The discussion continues to evolve, which you of course don't like because defending same-sex marriage and all its ramifications is like the little Dutch Boy at the dikes (no pun) trying to plug all the leaks.Also, homosexuality is absolutely prohibited in the Bible as I've shown and as anyone with a brain knows.

The Buy-bull says people who work on Saturday should be put to death. God even directly ordered the torture death of someone who picked up sticks on a Saturday.

Prof Marvel wrote:

In other words, a child who elects to become an homosexual must by extension become an atheist.

Well, considering god doesn't exist...

Prof Marvel wrote:

This explains the penis suits and phallic symbols we see during your gay "pride" parades.

You're really into those. If it weren't for your going on and on about them, I wouldn't even know they existed.

Prof Marvel wrote:

These symbols have nothing to do with pride and everything to do with sex cultism.Which is what you are -- a garden variety sex cult.

<quoted text>I'm straight. I reject them because their teachings are absurd, irrational and hateful. Also, they stick their noses where they don't belong, then whine if someone tells them to buzz off.<quoted text>No.

You say you're straight, Rose, but I find that hard to believe when you advocate homosexual sex practices like pee-play, fisting, rimming, etc.

As I understand it, your rationale is "Straights do it too!"

But how do you know "straights do it to" Rose?

Do you and your boyfriend pee on each other?

Did you walk in the bedroom when you were a kid to find your mother fisting your father?

How do you know, "straights do it too!" Rose -- and even if they do, why do you think that makes these practices sane and as wholesome as mom's apple pie?

<quoted text>The Buy-bull says people who work on Saturday should be put to death. God even directly ordered the torture death of someone who picked up sticks on a Saturday.<quoted text>Well, considering god doesn't exist...<quoted text>You're really into those.If it weren't for your going on and on about them, I wouldn't even know they existed.<quoted text>What's the difference between a sex cult and a god cult? Sex exists.

I'm sorry RnL has a problem recognizing the importance of gender differences. It seems many same sex marriage supporters are likely to make hyperbolic statements (OFTEN ALL CAPS) that show ignorance of sexual differentiation in the human species. Do you think this might have some relationship to her sexual orientation?

Brian......I KNOW more about Gender differences than you do........but that is irrelevant with regards to the right to marry the person of your choosing!!

My SEXUAL ORIENTATION has NOTHING to do with how I see the differences between men and women!!!

Sorry, but your grasping at straws won't make you anymore believable!!!

<quoted text>Once again, Reality, you distort the truth and manufacture facts that don't exist.First of all, it's not merely "one" person who wears a penis suit during your gay "pride" parades. It's the fact that the entire parade is a public exhibition of hedonism and sexual degradation.That's what gay "parades" have evolved into. You certainly know this. You've certainly read the anguished essays by tens of deeply concerned gays outraged at this depressing and repulsive outcome, yet you dishonestly characterize these now universality despised parades as squeaky clean weren't if for the one or two people who show up in penis suits.How about six people in penis suits marching in formation?

LOL.Your fixation on these penis suits has got me curious.Gotta link?

Prof Marvel wrote:

How about a giant penis float shooting confetti from its head? How about half-naked go-go boys being led down the street on dog leashes by the "tops"?Gay pride parades stopped having anything to do with pride in the 70s. You know this, and if you don't, everyone in this forum does.The next lie you promote is that drunk women along the sidelines at Madi Gras flashing their breasts are part of the parade. You know this is a damnable lie.

<quoted text>I've edited out the balance of your post because your last line in the middle of it is sufficient evidence to support my point about the homosexual lifestyle -- it can't co-exist with religion.People who call religion "a joke," are disbelievers, son, all your bending and twisting to hide this truism notwithstanding.And as we see above, your bending and twisting can get pretty creative -- "Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism are a-okay with homosexuality."Dude, that's ridiculous and you know it.That's desperation.That's turning your back on everything you were raised to believe -- everything the 10 generations that preceded you were raised to believe!-- in order to keep getting your fudge packed.Honestly, Dude, is getting corn holed that incredibly pleasurable that you would turn your back (no pun) on your Judeo-Christian heritage and become a dot head Hindu in order to keep getting some?

<quoted text>You need to try and grasp the ideas in a post before replying with your stock LGBT cliches, fella.First, how you compare homosexuality to skin color, etc., is a mystery. Some people choose to live the homosexual lifestyle, others don't. No one is born with a instinct to have anal sex. Anal sex is just the thing people with no desire for to vaginal/penis intercourse substitute.

Wrong. Most men who have anal sex have a vagina an inch away, and also engage in vaginal/penis intercourse. Sometimes in the same session..

Prof Marvel wrote:

In other words, stop confusing the gay gene with homosexual behavior -- they're not the same thing.The Bible's prohibition was against the behavior, not the state of being homosexual which it says nothing about.Indeed, it is was only when homosexual sex became legal that the HIV-AIDS epidemic and the contamination of our blood supply happened. Thus, it's perfectly reasonable to assume the admonitions in the Bible against homosexual sex prevented a similar epidemic and perhaps the utter extinction of humankind.

You are such a drama queen!

Prof Marvel wrote:

Today, even 30 years after universal safe sex education gay males remain more than 65% of all new HIV-AIDS cases. Obviously, there is something very lethal about your sex practices, something the Bible help put a stop to.And here I'd like to ask a question:If you could go back in history an re-write the Bible so that male-to-male sex is endorsed instead of prohibited, would you do it?

Our laws recognize men and women are different, just as they see adult and child as different.I'm sorry RnL has a problem recognizing the importance of gender differences. It seems many same sex marriage supporters are likely to make hyperbolic statements (OFTEN ALL CAPS)

Actually, it's you fundies who tend to use the all caps...

Brian_G wrote:

that show ignorance of sexual differentiation in the human species. Do you think this might have some relationship to her sexual orientation?

Tell me how men and women are different. Something specific, and why that difference should deny men and women equal rights...

Nonsense, I've never written there is anything contemptible about homosexuals or homosexuality. Rose is projecting.

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Rose_NoHo wrote:

Dummy, that's the judge's job.

Judges apply law, they aren't supposed to write law. The problem is, your judge didn't apply law as applied by precedent, he found for a mascot victim group instead of applying the law impartially for all.

<quoted text>It is so cute when a homosexual projects a heterosexual to be like them, abnormal. Opposites or inverses are never the same no matter how hard you try to humiliate, degrade, or defame the better half.The effort is indeed noted.

1. I'm straight.2. I didn't even know these male member suits and hats existed until Prof Marvel started going on and on about them.

<quoted text>The discussion continues to evolve, which you of course don't like because defending same-sex marriage and all its ramifications is like the little Dutch Boy at the dikes (no pun) trying to plug all the leaks.Also, homosexuality is absolutely prohibited in the Bible as I've shown and as anyone with a brain knows.In other words, a child who elects to become an homosexual must by extension become an atheist. This explains the penis suits and phallic symbols we see during your gay "pride" parades. These symbols have nothing to do with pride and everything to do with sex cultism.Which is what you are -- a garden variety sex cult.

Fortunately, this is America, and your Buybull is trumped by our Constitution EVERY TIME.

<quoted text>Nonsense, I've never written there is anything contemptible about homosexuals or homosexuality. Rose is projecting..<quoted text>Judges apply law, they aren't supposed to write law. The problem is, your judge didn't apply law as applied by precedent, he found for a mascot victim group instead of applying the law impartially for all.

Look at section two where it explicitly recognizes male and female as unequal, just as it recognizes adult and child or citizen and non-citizen as unequal. There is no gender equality right; the ERA failed. We've already won this, back in the '70s. Where just waiting for the left to catch up.

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Rose_NoHo wrote:

Actually, it's you fundies who tend to use the all caps...

Tell that to your friend, I copied her.

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Rose_NoHo wrote:

Tell me how men and women are different. Something specific, and why that difference should deny men and women equal rights...

Because marriage is defined as one man and one woman; gender differences are real. Only a woman can be a wife and only a man can be a husband. Only a woman can be a mother and only a man can be a father. Law recognizes the facts of life.

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