I perched these wine glasses at a estate sale some 20 years ago for .50 cents a piece, without looking at them very much because there was just to many good deals that had my attention at the time. Once home and I took a better look and I know then, I would not use them as a drinking glass. Only one has a slit chip on the rim. They appear to be the same at first glance but are in fact hand made. The stems are of different thickness and the flower pattern are made up of different flowers. The glasses are cut and etched and I know NOTHING about very fine glass ware. I collect some bottles and have had hundreds of them but nothing as nice as this in glass ware. The base of the glasses are of different thickness and they do not have a pontal mark. If anyone knows what I have please let me know I will not use them to drink out of no matter what. Hardbrake