I've just learned a very hard lesson and I admit defeat infront of everybody here in this forum.

When debating with the Christians members here, you give them the truthful answers point by point, then they twist it and turn it around and come back with the same arguement over and over and over again. Then one can only give them the SAME truthful answer and it just goes around in circles. I know deeply that the reason is because they do not have guidance from Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala and they do not SEE with their own eyes. They always bring the SAME aruguement which has been dealt with only a couple of pages earlier. Then throw in the mix, the atheists and the agnostics who try to convince you that there is no God because there is no proof. They then try to mislead you and try to divert you away from the 'siratal mustaqeem'. This is a great sin, if only they realise this, they will receive a double punishment. :(

The great comfort in all of this is that Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala has promised his believers that the TRUTH shall prevail. As long as we stay strong in faith and do the best we can to reach Jannah by following the five pillars of Islam that we are given then at least we have the minutest of chance to reaching it, Insha'Allah.

So a message to all my brothers and sisters in faith to stay strong and do not let satan and his accomplices stray you from the Straight Path.

I've just learned a very hard lesson and I admit defeat infront of everybody here in this forum.

When debating with the Christians members here, you give them the truthful answers point by point, then they twist it and turn it around and come back with the same arguement over and over and over again. Then one can only give them the SAME truthful answer and it just goes around in circles. I know deeply that the reason is because they do not have guidance from Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala and they do not SEE with their own eyes. They always bring the SAME aruguement which has been dealt with only a couple of pages earlier. Then throw in the mix, the atheists and the agnostics who try to convince you that there is no God because there is no proof. They then try to mislead you and try to divert you away from the 'siratal mustaqeem'. This is a great sin, if only they realise this, they will receive a double punishment. :(

The great comfort in all of this is that Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala has promised his believers that the TRUTH shall prevail. As long as we stay strong in faith and do the best we can to reach Jannah by following the five pillars of Islam that we are given then at least we have the minutest of chance to reaching it, Insha'Allah.

So a message to all my brothers and sisters in faith to stay strong and do not let satan and his accomplices stray you from the Straight Path.

As'alaamu Alaikkum

Greetings Abu Loren, (and all others)

May I offer this.You can hardly 'straighten out my belief', as you might put it, if you do not know what I believe, if I am not allowed to state my beliefs, which I am not on this forum. Time and again my questions are thwarted. Time and again when I express my perception of things it is not allowed, my posts disappear. If my perception is not correct who is going to tell me when they are not even allowed to know what my perception is?You can hardly convince me of Islam, when I am not allowed to ask the hard questions of Islam. Every religion goes through scrutiny and must be able to pass muster to be accepted.

I came to the forum because it is called Islamicity. I came to ask about Islam... not other religion.I came to see what the people of Islam believe.

Since I can not ask, since I can not say anything openly, I can hardly be convinced of anything.I will not be convinced of Islam through attacks on the belief of others when asked about yours. I require answers about yours.

I've just learned a very hard lesson and I admit defeat infront of everybody here in this forum.

When debating with the Christians members here, you give them the truthful answers point by point, then they twist it and turn it around and come back with the same arguement over and over and over again. Then one can only give them the SAME truthful answer and it just goes around in circles. I know deeply that the reason is because they do not have guidance from Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala and they do not SEE with their own eyes. They always bring the SAME aruguement which has been dealt with only a couple of pages earlier. Then throw in the mix, the atheists and the agnostics who try to convince you that there is no God because there is no proof. They then try to mislead you and try to divert you away from the 'siratal mustaqeem'. This is a great sin, if only they realise this, they will receive a double punishment. :(

The great comfort in all of this is that Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala has promised his believers that the TRUTH shall prevail. As long as we stay strong in faith and do the best we can to reach Jannah by following the five pillars of Islam that we are given then at least we have the minutest of chance to reaching it, Insha'Allah.

So a message to all my brothers and sisters in faith to stay strong and do not let satan and his accomplices stray you from the Straight Path.

As'alaamu Alaikkum

Greetings Abu Loren, (and all others)May I offer this.You can hardly 'straighten out my belief', as you might put it, if you do not know what I believe, if I am not allowed to state my beliefs, which I am not on this forum. Time and again my questions are thwarted. Time and again when I express my perception of things it is not allowed, my posts disappear. If my perception is not correct who is going to tell me when they are not even allowed to know what my perception is?You can hardly convince me of Islam, when I am not allowed to ask the hard questions of Islam. Every religion goes through scrutiny and must be able to pass muster to be accepted.I came to the forum because it is called Islamicity. I came to ask about Islam... not other religion.I came to see what the people of Islam believe.Since I can not ask, since I can not say anything openly, I can hardly be convinced of anything.I will not be convinced of Islam through attacks on the belief of others when asked about yours. I require answers about yours. Salaam,Caringheart

Caringheart,
what you said it not true.
You have asked questions, lots of them.
You have put Islam down intentionally.
You have shown your position on your belief shifting.
Your questions about Islam has been answered.
You were unable to clarify and proof what you say you believe.
You regular private messages don't have anything you claim you could not post or were not allowed to post making that claim suspicious and untrue.
If you have any truth in your claim or your belief it will not need any such excuses.
Truth stands out clear from Falsehood. Anyone familiar with your posts that are a proof on this forum will agree to what I wrote above.
Hasan

39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"

I've just learned a very hard lesson and I admit defeat infront of everybody here in this forum.

When debating with the Christians members here, you give them the truthful answers point by point, then they twist it and turn it around and come back with the same arguement over and over and over again. Then one can only give them the SAME truthful answer and it just goes around in circles. I know deeply that the reason is because they do not have guidance from Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala and they do not SEE with their own eyes. They always bring the SAME aruguement which has been dealt with only a couple of pages earlier. Then throw in the mix, the atheists and the agnostics who try to convince you that there is no God because there is no proof. They then try to mislead you and try to divert you away from the 'siratal mustaqeem'. This is a great sin, if only they realise this, they will receive a double punishment. :(

The great comfort in all of this is that Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala has promised his believers that the TRUTH shall prevail. As long as we stay strong in faith and do the best we can to reach Jannah by following the five pillars of Islam that we are given then at least we have the minutest of chance to reaching it, Insha'Allah.

So a message to all my brothers and sisters in faith to stay strong and do not let satan and his accomplices stray you from the Straight Path.

As'alaamu Alaikkum

Everyone has a right to his opinions. But don't make the mistake of equating "opinion" with "truth." Pontius Pilate asked Jesus: "We both have truths, aren't mine the same as yours?"

I've just learned a very hard lesson and I admit defeat infront of everybody here in this forum.

When debating with the Christians members here, you give them the truthful answers point by point, then they twist it and turn it around and come back with the same arguement over and over and over again. Then one can only give them the SAME truthful answer and it just goes around in circles. I know deeply that the reason is because they do not have guidance from Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala and they do not SEE with their own eyes. They always bring the SAME aruguement which has been dealt with only a couple of pages earlier. Then throw in the mix, the atheists and the agnostics who try to convince you that there is no God because there is no proof. They then try to mislead you and try to divert you away from the 'siratal mustaqeem'. This is a great sin, if only they realise this, they will receive a double punishment. :(

The great comfort in all of this is that Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala has promised his believers that the TRUTH shall prevail. As long as we stay strong in faith and do the best we can to reach Jannah by following the five pillars of Islam that we are given then at least we have the minutest of chance to reaching it, Insha'Allah.

So a message to all my brothers and sisters in faith to stay strong and do not let satan and his accomplices stray you from the Straight Path.

As'alaamu Alaikkum

Everyone has a right to his opinions. But don't make the mistake of equating "opinion" with "truth." Pontius Pilate asked Jesus: "We both have truths, aren't mine the same as yours?"

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