In 2011, the Sister Wives Blog started out as a place to talk about the TLC reality show "Sister Wives", Kody Brown and his wives Christine, Robyn, Meri and Janelle. Today we not only discuss the show, we discuss Polygamy in our society, and the public perceptions of the Mormon Religion. We discuss "Polygamy USA" and will be covering "My 5 Wives."
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Friday, May 18, 2012

Video: Sister Wives Share Advice

Looks like the major topic this season will be Christine's problem marriage with Kody.

Notice in this clip that Meri is sitting on the bed Christine shares with Kody. I'll have to look back in my archive of Sister Wives shows, but which wife said she didn't want another sister wife in her bedroom?

Another question: How many of you are thinking this season will end with Christine making a decision of leaving or staying with Kody? Or will this particular story arc be done by the next episode or so?

I feel bad for Christine!!!!!!! Meri basically told her to ignore her marriage troubles and fix herself!!! Kody needs to admit he is half the problem and work on it together!!!!! I look for Christine to leave the marriage, go Christine you deserve better. Good Luck !!!!! God Bless you and your kids.

First if all...Who is using the crutches that were parked beside the bed?? Where are the tweets about that??

And as far as an *intimate wife to wife chat*...uhh, assuming each wife did not have to speak and stop, and then the other one then had to speak after the first one was done talking with one camera filming both in sequence and editing done later to seam them together... then that was a two-camera shoot, one camera on Meri and one on Christine. Which means in that intimate, *private chat,* there were two camera operators and two sound persons also in the room. *shaking my head*

But if we are to accept that the chat was 'real'...Meri came off patronizing and unsympathetic. Christine was just pitiful. Why would she go to Meri with such plaintive concerns? Is that the jurisdiction of the 'first' wife's domain..to sort out another wife's marital woes? Meri would be my last choice. I don't trust her.

That conversation, if sincere and not scripted for the show, should have been with Christine and a skilled counselor...and do I dare say...with Sperm King on the hot seat.

Christine needs an intervention !! At the very least, she should get an extra share of TLC $$ to be exposed like this.

For the poll...I am sure that enough footage has been shot about Christine's Crisis, so TLC can tailor how much or how little they can and will use according to the ratings.

My thought....they will milk it for as long as it is useful. Probably for more than just one episode.

Probably on his way out early morning heading to Christine's for NYE, but not before making a "quick" stop at Robyns for an early NYE bootycall, since he knew that Christine wasn't gonna be putting out...lol

Do you guys even watch the show? Meri and Kody were on a date, they went skiing and Meri fell and sprained her MCL. And for the person that writes this blog, they are at Meri's house, not Christines, because Meri in unable to move around much because of her knee.

Please notice that the last comment was DATED (those orange colored words and numbers representing the month, day and year the comment was published, located right after the name) prior to the May 20th episode being shown on TV. Most of us watch the show and understand how to read dates.

And thanks for letting me know, after you watched the show, that Meri was at her own house.

I'll be able to watch the show as soon as its available for me...in about 3 minutes.

CJ covered everything, but I like to confirm, that yes Meri did tweet about falling down the stairs on NYE, ...so after watching tonights episode about the ski accident which occurred around the holidays, she was probably struggling getting around on crutches & that's what caused her fall at home.

Ok, let me get this straight. Kody does not celebrate Meri's birthday with her, or their anniversary. When she falls because she doesn't know how to ski as well as he, he leaves her for a date with another wife. He also leaves her to spend New Year's Eve alone when she is injured? And then TLC insists that Christine go to Meri for advice on problems she (Christine) is having with Kody? (I firmly believe that was all TLC's idea and based on the book, Christine never went to Meri for advice prior to this show.) And so they film Meri not being sympathetic to Christine. Well, I would not be, either. I think that TLC has an agenda and it is to make polygamy look as good as possible, and if that doesn't work, to try to make the wives look as bad as possible. To that end, they show Kody doing all these special things with the wives on date night. And the wives are supposed to get over any jealousy. I hate TLC almost as much as I hate the whole polygamy practice.

Meri is fine with the other women in her bedroom when Kody isn't around. I'm so depressed that I know this. I'm also depressed with Meri's advice. I get what she is saying but all this behavior is feeding Kody's narcissism. Can it really be getting them into heaven?

I don't think the fact that Kody was a wiener should get him off the hook for admitting mistakes. Ideally, a resolution involves two people admitting they were wrong. In reality, usually one person offers the peace branch first. In most relationships, either the husband or the wife will be the one to make the first step forward - I often find it changes, not always me, not always him.

If this family takes the "man of the household" thing literally, it technically should be Kody who acts as the "spiritual leader" and therefore you would think he would be expected to be the bigger person.

That came across as very scripted. This may be due to editing, or it could have been scripted.

It is true that we need to change ourselves - the way we react or things that we say - if we want others to change. HOWEVER, Christine is clearly aware that Kody is responsible for his actions and for them to have a healthy relationship, he needs to accept responsibility for his behaviours.

Meri's advice to basically suck it up and accept the situation was par for the course for sister wives, according to the reading I've done, because it's up to the wives to accommodate the husband. That expectation is what bothers me most about this kind of polygamy, because it means that women are second-class citizens with fewer rights.

Christine, if you're reading this, please see a professional. You deserve to be happy independently of whether Kody is happy.

TLC should be ashamed of exploiting this.Meri should be ashamed of giving Kody a pass and feeding his ego yet again.If any of them had any real concern and love for each other they would get off this show and try to mend this "marriage" between them all.How effed up for all the kids to know that their parents act like douches in front of a nationwide audience.That being said, I have no doubt that the unholy union of TLC and the Brown clan will somehow make nice nice eventually because it would be a fatal blow for Kody to lose an entire family while being filmed.As amusing as they are, I'm sick to death of their tedious drama.I'd love to see Christine strike out on her own.j

Agree Meri's advice and generalization that men have trouble admitting when they are wrong is ridiculous. I'm sure that is true for some men but not a general stereotype to my knowledge. In fact in my marriage, my husband is very quick to acknowledge his mistakes and try to do better whereas getting me to admit I'm wrong is like pulling teeth ... Course maybe that's cause I'm never wrong :)

Of course you are never wrong. You are a good dog, austin mastiff. My BC trick is to fight, have husband tell me he's not wrong, no, never, it's all me...and then I get a squirt gun. I am not shy about using it and he doesn't like to get wet, poor dear. Suddenly, he yells, no, you're right, I apologize, I'm most sorry!

So I laughed when I saw on tv a clip of Christine and Kody out someplace with paint ball guns. I really, really hope she won. Sadly I'm afraid she may get the worst of it. Which got me to thinking of his Christmas present, and his indication he had plenty of weapons since he has locked cases. And thinking there is some danger there. No not really. But I do wish Christine and Janelle would wise up and leave. We are ready to accept them. They need to get off their high horses about us and admit they made a mistake.

As usual Meri is telling someone to suck it up; her "tough love" approach is not love! It is rude, condescending and mean. Meri is a bully and I truly believe she thinks she is the ringmaster.

Remember admitting you are wrong is a very mature thing to do...Kody is a very immature, self centered, Peter Pan, man-child. He doesn't have it in him to say, "I'm sorry." After 17 years of marriage Christine is just now figuring out he doesn't apologize?

I love the Stepford Wife response, "If you want things to get better, you have to change yourself."

Really?

She just has to get her mind right? Come on Christine, put on your rose colored glasses, drink the kool aid and enjoy that wussy, metro sexual surfer dude you married.

I don't think any of these women will ever leave, who in their right mind would have ever married him?

I thinks its scary that Meri wants to work with at risk teenagers. She just doesn't seem to have the patience or intelligence to be effective and would do more harm than good. I wouldn't be surprised if she only wants to work within a certain demographic, such as teens from polygamy compounds because I doubt very seriously she could handle teens from different racial backgrounds. Look how she handled Mariah when she was told of the move to Vegas. She said something like I wish there was something I could do, but I can't. Now she is telling Christine basically the same thing - Kody won't change so live with it and change your expectations.

Hell Anonymous 2:17am...the real scary thing is that she WAS working with them & wasn't even qualified at the time!! May I add, that I think getting an on-line degree, really doesn't qualify you too much either!! She's had 1 1/2 yrs to get her degree, & from my understanding to pursue it on-line. Well, I don't even think it takes that long to obtain an on-line degree!

This is hard to watch. I really hope this isn't what this season will be or I'll just have to peace out.

I mean, obviously I want these women to realize their potential as strong women, leave and get actual men who act like adults and don't sleep with a harem. But not like this. This is like the Jon and Kate fights when it was really in trouble, not when it was a novelty and you could feel like your relationship was superior to theirs. This is hard to see. My heart breaks for poor Christine. That kind of depression is consuming even when in the best scenario, which she is clearly not in.

Ya'll have probably seen the promo for an upcoming show but it was the first time I've seen it.Guess what? Looks like paintball saves the "marriage". Those two scamps look like they worked out their differences splattering each other with paint. Aw, folks, once again the BrownClowns dodge a bullet..pun intended. Sheesh.j

If the producers of this train wreck and TLC think for a milisecond that kind of bs is gonna fly they are sadly mistaken. Remember the twinkie defense? This would be even worse. You have a troubled marriage, have the husband and wife play paintball and the marriage will be saved. Are they crazy? Only those nuts who don't have 2 brain cells between them will fall for this bs and then write on twitter and facebook how wonderful Kody and Christine are for fixing their marriage problems with paintball.

Great name, Peanut Butter Fritos! :D Not sure whether to describe it as a love/hate relationship between the salty/sweet cravings, kinda like Kody & Christine's sham of a marriage(well,actually all of them, including Meri, for allowing his selfishness to infringe upon her & Kody's sacred vows) Or battle of the tastebuds! U love the idea of it conquering ur salty/sweet cravings, but hates how it makes u feel afterwards...lol Both, I would never attempt!(PBF & Polygamy) I'll stick to my Payday candy bars when that craving hits & my "boring" monogamous marriage.:D

This family dynamic is forever changed for Christine. She will never accept nor be happy w/the change really. But due to her strong commitment to polygamy as her ticket to heaven, she will not leave Kody. All she wants is for things to go back to how they were but that would require Robyn to be removed as well as a commitment from Kody that he would take on no more wives after Christine #3. The slot she picked and thought was permanent was Wife #3 as well as Last Wife. She was happy with that for 17 (?) years. Kody and Meri gleefully changed that.

For all we know, Kody committed to this with her at one time and then changed his mind under the guise of going public to sell polygamy w/this show and Christine had no idea that bringing Robyn in was going to continue to upset her world andnot subside w/this much time gone by now. Plus, yeah - he was a ridiculous little school boy acting like he was in his first true love crush while Christine was pregnant, then childbirth, then postpartum blues to deal with. Without any emotional support from Kody let alone her sister wives. I can only imagine how many times she cried herself to sleep through all that. I don't think any of the sister wives were prepared for how smitten and gushy gushy goo Kody and Robyn were going to be with each other. Good lord, Robyn wears a freakin' rhinestone "K" bracelet like a high school girl would for her jock bf. She made sure the wives saw how she turned her bedroom into a shrine to their honeymoon so Kody would constantly be reminded that she's the only wife he honeymooned with.

They ALL need individual professional counseling. and meds to endure to the end til they can have all this happiness continue on into the eternities. ;')

If Christine is as miserable as she seems and not just putting on an act for TV then she should leave. Your husband is a dick. He's not changing. There's a reason your mom left your dad. Learn from it. Squirrel your money away.

There's another promo out there with Kody, Robyn, and Sol out on a date and they're talking about if they can handle more kids. It's so obvious that she's his favorite. It's funny because they also talk about Kody's supposed commitment to his wives and his kids.http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2012/05/sister-wives-can-the-brown-family-handle-any-more-children.html

This is the way I see it: As far as Kody is concern, it is all or nothing; take it or leave it; he takes the high road, everyone else can take the low road. As for the wives, they have spoiled him for so long, he gossips right along with them behind the other wife's back and the wives allowed it and now they wonder why he wont accept responsibility, he won't own his mistakes. Robyn is there to satisfy his mid life crisis. He has one up on every other married man, he doesnt have to have an affair with a younger woman. He already owns a sports car, that is why we haven't seen him out in Las Vegas purchasing one.

Definitely scripted! I seriously doubt this is the first time that Meri is hearing about trouble in "paradise" w/ Christine. I'm sure Kody was bitching & whining to Meri. Robyn even said herself, when 1 relationship suffers they all hurt, which I think is BS!!Yes it's sad that TLC is exploitN this catastrophe of a "marriage ". I seriously doubt paintball will fix their problems. Honestly I can't continue to feel sorry for Christine bc she's choosing to stay w/ him. I think she does realize that her loser husband will never change & just needs to find the courage to leave his sorry ass. If Kody & Robyn are discussing mOre kids then they'll probably be announcing another pregnancy(eyes rolling) ...that's the purpose of adding on a younger fertile wife. Sol won't be the last of his kids, unfortunately! Maybe another pregnancy will be the final breaking point for Christine.

I'm sorry, but if Christine refuses to see that she is being emotionally neglected then i don't feel sorry for her. I was once in an emotionally abusive relationship and as horrible as he made me feel about myself i still realized what a jackass HE really was, so i took the kids and left his ass. At this point in her life, if she can't get him to work through it with her or leave him then i refuse to give out sympathy. The only thing i can really be bummed out about is the fact that they get payed to go play paintball. And just so you know, i really am upset about that! LOL

not sure that Christine "refuses" to see or that she's incapable of seeing it. she's blinded by her religious beliefs. she probably needs to be de-programmed from her religious indoctrination before she CAN see it. otherwise, she's going to keep beating herself up over failing her lord's test of overcoming jealousy.

If Christine is bummed about being displaced by Robyn as the youngest newest wife, if Kody took another wife it would go a long way in soothing the pain. It would obliterate the real or imagined special feelings Christine may think she sees that Kody has for Robyn.It would not cure the multitude of hurts she endured while being pregnant and emotionally left in the dust by his raging hormones but it would help her see that that's the reality of her choice of plural marriage. If they all actually lived as a family things would probably work better. Kody would be forced to share his time with all the kids and all the wives during non-sleeping hours. The way it's set up now when things get heated there's 4 completely separate houses to run off to and avoid working through any disagreement.The idea that one or two nights a week with your "wife" and children can be called a plural marriage is dumb to me. It's much more akin to a divorce with exes that happen to somewhat get along.j

If you've taken a glance at the Browns' Facebook page, you'll see that there are actually women who would love to become Brown Wife #5. Scary.

I think Kody has emotionally checked out of his relationship with Christine. Why hang out with her when he can flit over to Robyn's and be worshipped? Or go hang with Janelle, who is way too proud to admit she needs anything from him?

I agree that Christine's religious beliefs are probably going to prevent her from ever leaving, unless she seeks therapy - preferably not from one of her sister wives.

Reality groupies jumping on the polygamy bandwagon...smh! I think thru social network some fans wanna appear like they totally support the Browns & even go as far as saying, they would just love to be his 5th wife BS!Going back to the Sorry Charlie fiasco & his 1st potential prey, Rebecca. She was all gung ho about it in the beginning, going as far as surfing the plyg matchmaking site & appearing on national tv. Well, it seems she has backed out of pursuing that lifestyle avenue...lol

I have actually read this advice that Meri is giving in self help relationship books. If you change yourself first the other party has no choice but to change as well. It does work as crazy as it sounds...still though RUN CHRISTINE RUN!!!

So Meri and Robyn get Mexico and Christine gets paintballing!!!FYI Kody you take your kids paintballing for some fun dad time NOT your wife who seems utterly miserable with you!! Give the girl a nice week long holiday somewhere MAYBE that'll help out your marrige a bit... but not friggen paintballing, sheesh

I think it's hilarious that in the article Bonnie Says,"Meri's advice is about as helpful as Kody's relationship denial"....Lol

Also read that in SW Season 3 premiere,had 2.8 viewers & Season 2 premiere had 2.26 million...so slowly but surely they are losing a fan base. Just wonder what TLC will be exploiting next in this Brown clown show to keep their ratings afloat & rising?? @_@

This may be a bit off topic, but I seen this earlier & I really wanted to share it w/ SWB. Ok, so ya'll have heard the guy saying, "Bros before hoes", right?Well here's one for the ladies:"Sisters before Misters"...LMAO!!

I'm sure this conversation was 'suggested' by TLC. In their book they pretty much say they don't have 'heart to heart' talks with their Sister Wives. They aren't close at all...Christine would willingly go to Meri for advice when Meri has been nothing but mean and judgmental of Christine since Day 1? Nope, totally a set up by TLC. And of course Meri's advice is to 'be a better person and change yourself". This is consistent with the dynamics of plural marriage. The husband is the one who is never wrong and never apologizes. Its Patriarchy and he is never wrong. And then afterwards the wives will all say how much they love their lifestyle because it makes them better people.

I hope we aren't all being played by TLC for ratings...I think that Christine really is struggling but I hope they aren't using her for their gain, you know?

I agree 100% with what you said. TLC is trying to build a dramatic storyline. Christine may realize that it's not an marriage of equals, but either way she will probably stay with the family.Totally agree that the patriarchal structure of this marriage eventually puts the man first, women second, even if it started out with the best of intentions.

If they can't communicate with each other then they need a third party, i.e. a marriage counselor. Doesn't the church provide this service free of charge? Not sure their church would have the best advice but still...

Christine WILL change herself and then they will have grown too far apart to mend things. She will see he is never going to change, that this is not what she really wanted out of life, and she will leave. These are my predictions, lol.

I wish she would just run off with Trainer Bill. That would be an awesome show.

Also, I'm really late on this but in case anyone cares: Garrison got into a fight at school not too long ago. I think it was quite recent (my friend's son goes to school with him). It wasn't too bad, whatever that means, but it was a physical fight with another boy. We also drive by those houses that they flew kites at quite often (my friend lives near there), and there are "skeletons" of two new houses but it looks as though they've stopped working on them. I know for sure that the Browns have not had anything to do with them, as far as buying etc.

How sad. I think even though we are just seeing an edited version of life in the Brown households, the violence we saw last week of brother against brother is just the tip of the iceberg. So Garrison's not only fighting his smaller brother and getting a bloody nose in the process, he's fighting at school too? Sounds like he's crying out for help. I hope Janelle and Kody wake up and get that child professional help because Kody refuses to act like a father and Janelle does not have the parenting skills she needs to raise her boys so that they won't wind up in jail for fighting when they adults. It's sad those two parents don't even understand what they are doing to their kids.

Thanks Britt for the current update about the Browns pipe dream homes status. A few of us here were wondering what the current status was .seeing is believing & as speculated they're in stalling limbo.Sad to hear about Garrison who is obviously acting out & definitely crying For help or just possibly wants attention, even if its negative attention, bc he doesn't get it at home.

I do not, for one millisecond, feel sorry for Christine. She was the most outspoken of the whole bunch about their religion. She was the one who was so worried about their kids being surrounded by "sharks". She's AUB royalty and darn proud of it, even to the point of celebrating Joseph Smith's birthday, their fearless leader who was so obviously racist. I know it's harsh, but it is what it is. This is what she signed up for. It's what she wants and what she wants her children to have. She will just have to deal with it, like the rest of us who have to deal with what comes with our chosen beliefs. If you can't deal with it, then you probably need to rethink your belief system.

Meri has been tweeting up a storm today (Sunday). Mostly in response to fan's questions. One asks what business are they in? Real Estate? Fitness? Clothes? And Meri says "watch the show to find out?". I think we all know they are not real estate agents and Fundamental Fitness is NOT up and running and neither is the Sister Wives Closet other than a shell website. They all all talk and no action. No business going, no jobs (although some of the teens have jobs, good for them!) and the houses aren't being built. Since the current season was shot 4-5 months ago, if they had any of these things going, they would be tweeting about it and promoting it. Sheesh, Kody has done more for the promotion of that Mexican restaurant he likes than anything else.

I was very surprised when Robyn commented on facebook that the investor fell thru for fundamental fitness. Now I wonder if there's a reason why her My Sister Wife's Closet online store is still shutdown. Like you said, they had enough time to have either business up and running. Robyn's big mouth spilled about the fitness center, so which Brown is gonna spill about the online store (hey Christine!)

I agree Wanna Bet, plenty of time to set up a website for the Sister Wife's Closet. I googled how to set up an online boutique store in general, bcuz they will basically be reselling stuff they get at wholesale, & surprisingly theirs quite a few things U have to go thru to get all set up before U can legally start selling. Some states require you to go thru them & register to get a permit or license, etc...so not really sure what Nevada law is concerning this matter. Also, U have to have the merchandise to display on ur website, that U have to offer, so not really sure if they have all their merchandise available. U still have to set up Pay Pal account or establish a way people can pay. Then there's the shipping & handling issues. Are the Browns set up to properly handle & ship orders? I just don't think they put alot of thought into the online closet venture...but really, that's like most of their deals. Not really sure how the LIV MLM biz is going either...maybe that has fizzled out & some of their fans figured out that they lure U in by being able to meet the Browns at the hotel seminars, etc...then U get asked to buy LIV products or just sign up to be a distributor O_o

Stalled.....so why does TLC choose to bait their viewers with bogus stories like this?? **Six months ago**....Kites flying, children being told, *Yippee, we are all going to live together here*, smiles all around....and all bogus, all simply for the camera.(and the ratings) The more this Kody/harem thing goes on, the more blatant and insulting it becomes...and the more viewer-scamming it all obviously is.

Yes, it really is a shame about that boy....but after Janelle's shocking admission in the book about her parenting skills, that without being in KodyWorld her kids would have been wild. And with SpermKing so obviously detached from all parenting interest or savvy. That boy is NOT going to get any preemptive help. It will probably have to get even worse before these morons realize his plight.

What financial institution would even consider loaning Kody enough to fund the building of 4 gigantic houses on choice gated property land? Each wife has had a bankruptcy, the last one 2 years ago. Add to that a lot of spending (house rentals, cars) that has got to cost over $100,000yr to maintain. And I bet their credit card debt has soared to new heights .Robyn and her blinged out accessories she wore in the last episode aren't free. Plus they are still responsible for the house in Lehi. Something's telling me that culdesac is just a pipedream being played up so we will later see a crying Kody saying to the audience how his loan got denied and now they will be homeless in Vegas. And then the season ends on that cliffhanger.

Ugghhhhh!! That totally sounds about right, WB :/ ...don't wanna see no pity party from a grown ass man who got way in over his head. Also, if they were smart, they would have either paid off or most of the house in Lehi...I know they still have it, & either relatives or friends staying there. Maybe leasing it out to help pay for it...but not really sure.

Mitt may not practice, but his grandparents did practice polygamy. And probably the grandparents and great grandparents of many fine Mormons today practiced polygamy. And isn't there still polygamy in heaven?

There is still polygamy in heaven for Mormons. Ask Mormon Girl had an article about it. A woman wrote in saying she was depressed when she learned there was polygamy in heaven. She asked her husband to promise not to take another wife in heaven and he said if God wanted him to take another wife, he would, regardless of how she feels. The men answer to a "higher calling," as Kody always says, even in mainstream Mormonism.

Ummm, I'm no bible thumping finatic, but I do believe in God,Jesus, & the Holy Spirit. Although, there are quite a few churches that I just won't attend, i.e. Mormon or any association to it, Scientology, Catholics, Jehova Witness, etc.. I was raised Baptist, but I prefer Non-denomination churches. I also, believe that there will be no separate religion venues in heaven either. Just thinking about it, once a person stands before God, & if he deems us worthy to pass thru the pearly gates, there's not gonna be signs pointing for Baptist, Methodist, Catholics, Mormons, AUB, etc...well, hopefully U get what I'm trying to say. The main purpose of any religion, should be serving God as he has instructed in the Bible & carrying out his will, not self serving agendas like Polygamy seems to be about.

I know right, geeky girl? We all knew that Christine would overlook the elephant in the room & take the blame in the withering relationship, & pretend she's happy, when clearly she's not (eyes rolling)

I just finished wanted episode 2 of the season and Im more disgusted than ever. Where do I begin - maybe with the kids... Kody spends no time with any of the kids except King Soloman wo was at the restaurant during Kody and Robyns date night and in the car when the sister wives took the new vehicle for a spin. Maybe if Kody spent some time with his kids versus trying to swoon his wives his children would be more emotionally stable. All the children with the exception of Soloman are vying for his time. Its depressing that the yound girl has to take her brother to a dance, but watch before long we will see Robyn out dancing the night away with Kody on a date night. He is never avaialable for the repremeands these children especailly Garrison or even last season Hunter seem to need. It would be interesting to know how many nights he takes Soloman with him to another wives because Robyn needs a break. I find it very unlikely she is taking care of him except for the 2 nights a week he might get to be with her. You never saw him toting Truely around...Meri's advice was torturous. She would of been the last person I would of gone to for advice. Basic she told her that her feelings are not justified as Kody is too selfish. The whole just act happy and be loving but dont talk about how hurt and jealous you are is BS. So how she feels is not valid. I promise everytime the crybaby Robyn gets her crocodile tears going the Browns all have to stop to see that her emotional needs are met. Its ridiculous and insulting. If you can not take time to discipline your children, to listen to your wife vent, than you are in over your head. Give it up... And where did the car come from? I dont get it. What company would issue their employee a luxury convertible? /that dont have the money themselves - so what gives?

Hi Tdarling...the convertible came as a bonus from the LIV MLM(multi level marketing), which is an global health detox products they try to sell to folks. I think he invested a lot of the TLC $$ to get started in the biz. Then had a couple of his wifes sign up as distributors underneath him & then they swindled some of their fans to do the same. In this pyramid scheme, Ur required to buy a lot of the products to sell get folks to sign up as distributors,etc..

If LIV works like Mary Kay, the "bonus" car wasn't given to them - it's a car leased by LIV, which can be pulled (or the Browns required to copay) should their sale $$ #s dip below a certain level. Big whoop...

Christina is wrong. She obviously didn't care nor think about how Meri and Janelle felt when SHE came along. The truth here is she just never wanted to be in their shoes. The shoe is on the other foot now and SHE has to sit back and watch Koty love a new woman and have a new baby just as Janelle and Meri had to endure it when SHE came along. Obviously she can dish it out but can't take it.

Keep this in mind as Meri "advised" her. Meri had to sit back once and deal with Christina coming into the family. With that in mind, do you really think Meri was going to tell Christina she was right? Of course she wants her to curb her feelings and be miserable! LOL

As for Meri telling Christina she should get over the Robyn thing....Meri needs to look in the mirror. When she and Koty were at the ski resort, Koty said Robyn got the romantic marriage proposal because by then he was older and learned. Meri responded obviously irritated , "Robyn Robyn Robyn"

I'm sorry, but this show which I just watched for the very first time absolutely disgusted me. Polygamy, really seriously is just a way for this man to be selfish, and enjoy different woman on different days of the week, you might as well call him a Male Gigalow. You cannot tell me that these woman enjoy this, you can see from right off that these woman suffer from insecurities and jealousies because there husband runs from one wife to the next, but then again they chose to marry him. If you can leave your wife laid up on bed when she twisted her knee to go run off to another wife without a backwards glance shows me just how much he truly loves his wives (oh yes, and poor him, his back hurts from helping his first wife when she twisted her knee). He's a P.I.G., there's no better way to explain this, he must feel pretty special to have his own show, how rewarding...... Whoever created and approved Polygamy are a bunch of male chauvenist's, I'd like to see these woman turn around and do the same to the men. Might teach these disgusting people a lesson.

Hi Against Polygamy :D The wives has told America that they wouldn't want plural husbands bcuz it's not for them & it would be too much work. Basically a bunch of donkey doo..which a lot of us see between the the lines & thru the smoke & mirrors they try to put on...but we're not fooled!!...lol

hi there Against Polygamy! (so am I) but until men can have the babies, i don't see how it's the same thing at all to simply reverse it. that just makes the same one woman getting pregnant again and again but just by all different men. and the men don't have to go through the sacrifice and extra jealousy/emotions involved when they're not carrying baby after baby like plyg women have to. King Kody never has to worry about getting pregnant again and again and basically left to raise them all alone and that's a game changer for sure. ;')

Where does Kody work? Please don't say marketing. What is the name of the company? I am in marketing, and I am amazed that he "won" a car for his work in advertising/marketing. This guy is not articulate. Just listen to him speak... I find it VERY hard to believe that he was rewarded with a new car.

I watch this show like I'd watch a train wreck. You don't want to look, but you can't help yourself.

Not meaning to pass judgement here...but just how I see it.

Meri...obviously considers herself the queen wife. It shows. When they went pumpkin shopping, among other outings, Meri always takes the lead. She told Christine to basically suck it up tonight when she complained. Funny Meri has no shortage of her own complaining. Complained she had to do so much during the move because Koty was off working or something. Complained she was expected to get the smaller house because she only has one child and it was not fair. Complained the first show this season that she felted slighted because she had no help packing up to go to the Christmas house and Koty took two boys to help Robyn. She needs to take the advice she dishes out.

Janelle...She herself has said she did not want to be a stay at home mother. She worked where they lived before but has not been working since the move. My guess then is the other sister wives raised her kids while she was working and now that they are all in seperate houses, with her not working and having to "mother"...the children are giving each other bloody noses. That speaks for itself. IMO if Janelle didn't want to raise children, and there really is not a constant father in the house, that could have been taken into consideration before she had so many kids. Her sending the little boy to wake his sister was insane. She had to tell him to wake her "nicely".....right there if she has to say that to him, then maybe SHE needed to walk upstairs and wake her. She will climb a mountain on a date with Koty but can't walk right upstairs to wake her child. Sends another child to do it?

Christine... Mindless and silly. She put herself in the other two wives faces and just had a new baby....but she can't stand Robyn and her new baby in her face? She's phoney. Goes on and on about how she always wanted to be a third wife. The first one was too hard, the second one was like a wedge....so all the hard work was already done for the third one. Tell the truth Christine....you just thought you would not have to face another wife being taken after the third one so you'd never have to be jealous and endure it. Surprise....

Robyn...oh please. She comes across so fake and phoney. Cry cry cry..poor me poor me poor me...First of all she rides in just as Christine was pregnant. Whirlwind courtship during the birth of Christine's baby, and big move and she pops up pregnant right away. Then she cries and wonder's why Christine don't like her. Duh

Koty is a big kid. How is he suppose to father children when he himself has not grown up. He is as selfish as a 17 yr old. He drives nice new convertible sportscars, a Harley motorcycle, etc. We all noticed the cars his wives drive on the move. Certainly not new sportscars.

Where they get their money to live like that is beyond me. I have a feeling they may be collecting welfare for those kids. The FDLS is known for that. After all legally they are considered single mothers. Mary is the only one legally married to him and she only has one child. Hmmmmm I noticed the one time they went grocery shopping...they followed them even until the total amount was given..but cut right before they paid. I'll bet they paid with food stamps.

There are outreach programs for women wanting to leave the polygamy lifestyle. They help w/ food, housing, tools for starting over, etc..I provided the website & phone # to one I found online. Also, there's a new poster here on SWB who gives girls & women refuge from polygamy lifestyle. Since she's not legally married, there would be no divorce involved. Also, for resources, she could easily get back on food stamps & welfare, like she has been before. I think, she could easily take refuge, w/ her mom too, since her mom has experience from leaving the polygamy lifestyle. Yes, she has 6 kids, but 2 of the girls are older, & I believe one of her girls will be graduating next year. Honestly, if she really wanted to leave, she could & would, no matter what, but she just has to find the courage too. But although she's in a very unhealthy & unfulfilling relationship, its probably easier for her just to stay & be the babysitter for everyone, so she doesn't have to get a job. She could easily get licensed thru DHS(dept of human services) or whatever the other states call their welfare service dept...to open an in home daycare, & she could easily start bringing in her own income, if she wanted to get away from this freak show, but this is all just my opinions. If the person, really wants change in their life, then they will find a way to make it happen, no matter what!!

Someone tweeted Meri this question: "Do you as 1st wife get more "respect" like the 1st wife on Big Love?Not power but clout?

Meri's response: Good; absoulutely not :)

IMO, I don't think "Good", really answers the 1st part of the question or come to think about it her answer to 2nd part of question isn't really being honest either, but that's just me. This is what I think,...Meri being the 1st wife, definitely has a lot of pull & influence which is the meaning of clout. Also, power & clout are basically the same bcuz they are synonyms.

HAH! i called it. Christine will not only stay w/Kody but will continue to beat herself up for not overcoming her jealousy of Robyn. and VOILA! here we have on tonight's show, her confiding in Meri about it all and then cut to scene where she's all snuggled up to Kody APOLOGIZING AGAIN and promising to DO BETTER AGAIN. *sigh* the cycle starts all over now.

but yeah, anony 1:17 - i agree and have said it before, too. where IS she supposed to go? she's trapped financially, emotionally and religiously. she KNOWS she has to suck it up and make it work. but the bottom line won't change for Kody. He's completely SMITTEN w/Robyn and all the wives know it. including Meri who USED to be his "soulmate" wife but now Kody has decided it's really Robyn who is.

and WHY was Meri's bedroom so messy? i was quite shocked actually. it's only her and no kids to blame it on. i thought she was too organized and fussy for it to look like that let alone let it be shown on TV how messy it all was.

tonight's episode was so sugary I have a toothache. Love is everywhere. We got to go on their stupid dates,booyah. Christine is grateful now and we all got to walk down the proposal love fest for each "wife" which predictably was a snoozer.Now I know why I never watched an entire show.These yokels are boring and always look messy.The day they all move in together and actually live as a family I might watch another one all the way through. Thanks to jinx I can still get the highlights w/o actually making me want to poke my eyes out. I loved how the kids were all excited about the new car....as if they'll ever get to ride in it!Psyche! It's only for that man that runs up and down the stairs every week to sleep in mommy's special bedroom. Hate to tell the BrownClowns but their mystique is all gone (being kind because I don't think they ever really had any but...)j

This show is my one guilty pleasure!! I don't get it, couldn't do it myself, but I figure they are all consenting adults so whatever floats their boats! Just bought the book for my Kobo, even after reading the reviews on here I still can't wait to read it! I can't wait to watch the new season, especially after scanning this site! I'm a long haul truck driver so haven't been home since it started, but fingers crossed I set the PVR up properly and they should all be recorded for me! Til then I'll just have to be satisfied with getting my recaps here!! :)

Yep, eagerly awaiting Cynical Jinx's comprehensive review of episode 2 !!!Suffice to say that watching it was a mixture of "Are you all F'ing kidding me" to having to stifle yawns.Performers..they are all simply performers.

One interesting thing is that Meri is/was laid up with a torn ALS, yet with all their tweeting about endorsing this or that or with just plain silly minutia, there was nary a tweet about Meri's injury. Strange !!!Goes to show you how definitely "scripted and programmed" they all are to pump up and adhere to the timing agenda and scripting for the show.Performers !!!

Also, when ignorant Kody took Janelle for her special date, hiking, she was talking about her feeling so good and being able to do so much more now that she is so fit and the camera flashes to Kody's face and he has that stupid mocking look on his face like he is saying, yeah right. did anyone else catch that?

Yes, Zelda1, their date was pretty effing lame, & it shouldn't even qualify as a date! Damn, she didn't even get dinner! Did ya'll notice after finishing dinner w/ his fave, Robyn,...Kody said, it's too early to go home & went to see a movie :/ ...Yes, Kody, we know, we know...Robyn isn't ur favorite!! BULLSHIT! Not all of us are drunk off ur tainted kool aid & we actually see U for what U really are: A self serving S.O.B w/ a harem of misfits! Enjoy ur time in the spotlight, bcuz ya'lls 15 minutes have gone too long & it's only a matter of time! #ticktock

Ok, I think we have all concluded that the LIV MLM scheme is how Kody got the car...I remember us talking about this over the hiatus from the show. Based on my research, LIV sells products that are supposed to be about health and mostly about losing weight. Also, the more people you can get signed up under you to sell (i.e. adoring fans), the more $$ you make.

And I am really not trying to be snarky or rude, I myself have a good amount of weight I would like to lose......but.....if you are selling products (LIV and the supposed fitness center), wouldn't you want your 'spokespeople' (i.e. the 'Face of the Business') to all have made some fitness and weight loss progress? Just saying.

Well, according to Janelle, she has made some progress. She said that while she hasn't lost a lot of pounds, she has lost inches (I don't remember how many) and she feels more healthy and energetic. I totally believe her. She is beginning to look less bloated (in her face, especially) and she seems committed to bringing positive, health-conscious changes into her life.

I have to say Janelle was my favourite, this episode. I'm not even all that concerned about her kids fighting (the son who was sent to wake up his sister....what a brat! Hahahahaha) because really, that's normal among siblings. My sisters and I used to fight like cats and dogs and many of us have stories about how we terrorized (or were terrorized by) our siblings/friends at one point or another, growing up. I'm sure it doesn't help that cameras are around for the kids to put a show on for.

Eighteen inches. She claims to have lost eighteen inches. Ten pounds. I don't see it. If she was so committed, more healthy and more energy...she'd have walked up the steps and woke her own daughter. She had no problem walking up a mountain with Koty. Having energy to do what you want to do and not want you "have" to do is two different things. Terrorizing siblings and parents allowing it or being too busy to acknowledge it is called abuse and dysfunctional. I had siblings too and mom didn't send them to do HER job.

Christine is an Allred. Her grandfather was Rulon C Allred, the first prophet of the Apostolic United Brethren - the Brown's church. When Rulon Allred was assassinated in 1977 by a rival polygamist group, his brother Owen Allred took over leadership of the AUB until his death in 2005. I don't doubt that her father also holds a position in the AUB, however, the current leader is Lamoine Jenson.

Assassinated by a rival polygamist group. Amazing...Tell me how come we have so much division in so called "Godly" religious organizations....and yet devil worship is one devil and they all seem to serve the same one? You never see Baptist devil worship or Catholic devil worship... They seem to know and agree on who they serve. I'm in no way saying they are right...I'm just saying there is more evil in organized religion than anyone wants to admit.

The flagship product for Liv Interational is their SXInney Water. It is a concentrate that you add to your water and drink all day long. It changes your PH balance from acidic to alkaline! 2 oz. of SXinney concentrate = 2 lbs of fresh fruits and vegs.

A ski trip. Paintball. Mexico. A helicopter ride. A 4-course dinner at the Melting Pot. Not to mention, the 10-bedroom "Christmas" house.

I'm sure many of us know what it takes to be on a budget when money is tight. WHERE did they get the cash for all of this?! Are the Browns being spoon-fed these wonderful outings that they themselves cannot afford? When times get tough, most people go cheap, or go without until they can afford it. I cannot imagine they're getting all of this for free, or on TLC's dime. With each successive "date night" (except Janelle's hiking date), I wanted to bang my head against the television in outrage. I may have to take a Sister Wives' break until my blood pressure comes down.

I am with you! In fact I'm thinking of not watching again at all. We watching is giving them the ratings....and us ulcers and headaches to see this goes on in our United States. When I think of most likely welfare buying their food like the FDLS families, so they don't have that expense....TLC throwing money their way in order to put on a good show...and them pushing the latest magic weight loss potion when they have not lost weight etc, it makes me sick. I know families that really work...mom and dad and two kids and they can't live like that.

I watched TLC's train wreck (Jon and Kate + 8) and regularly read the 'Gosselins Without Pity' blog....apparently, Jon and Kate, who also cried poor all the time, would hint to TLC as to the kinds of 'things' (aka as trips, etc) they would like to do on their show, and TLC would foot the bill....I'm assuming the same process is used with the Brown's, who also cry poor, but rent houses for Christmas, go on trips, etc, etc...

Exactly what SaNdy said. I read an article on Kate after her show was finally cancelled, and was complaining how the kids had grown accustomed to the expensive trips they took every year, on TLC's dime. She didn't know how she was going to explain to them that they weren't going to get those trips any longer, or was griping because they had all grown "accustomed" to that lifestyle. When I saw all of the dates last night, I knew that the Browns were cashing in. What I find odd is that there is never any special, quality time for the kids.

I was thinking about how we have 6 kids, same age span as Janell. My husband has one wife, one household and owns a business.We drive a crappy mini van, he puts a lot of time in his business, money goes to build the business or for the household. Our Son is graduating this year, expensive. University, housing summer camps, sports ect.... I'm not complaining I am just thinking we rarely vacation. Its not just the money, its the time away from your work. Providing for a family takes a lot of time at work. If Kody had to pay for this life style the way most men take care of a single family MAYBE poly-lifestyle would be lest appealing.I just think he needs to let the kids be the kids and stop being so selfish. The wives are no better. They spend too much time bonding with Kody instead of making sure DAD has time to bond with HIS children. Use this extra tlc money to go to movies, and bowling ect.... these kids are the only true victims here.

What does Meri do all day? This is a serious question. She has a husband 1/4 nights, one kid in high school, and no recognizable job. She doesn't make press appearances, she doesn't work out that I can tell. What exactly does she sit around all day doing? Is she the real LIV worker?

Yeah, what DOES she do all day? We know that she doesn't clean her house. Did you see her bedroom in last night's show? My house isn't exactly clean, but Meri's house is messier than my house and I have active, messy preschoolers.

Meri: Robyn, Robyn, Robyn. That quick "sorry" Kody gave her was quick, fast and appeared habitual. It must happen often...tender Robyn, Robyn, Robyn moments he wants to share with Meri. Which tells you he talks to her about ALL HIS WIVES.

Janelle: Smiling so big it looked scripted. "Look at how happy I am with Kody". Why doesn't she smile like that when she's with her kids? Wonder what happened to toilet boy.

Christine: She is right and knows it. I'd like to see her bust her chops to get her own TLC Show - something about breaking free (from polygamy) and hey, wouldn't it be fun to see her and Janelle on dates? Even Meri knows Kody is really a dick.

Yes you are right it is habitual....don't you remember when Koty and Meri went out to celebrate their Anniversary I think it was when he was just dating Robyn....he did it then too and she reacted the same way.

Kody definitely talks to Meri about all of the sister wives and I suspect the others know it. Did you see the convo with Christine and Meri? Look at Meri's body language and choice of words. She does not like Christine at all. She crosses her arms, gets impatient, and refers to the concerns as "your [Christine's] own issues."

All that begs the question: Why would Christine seek advice from Meri (instead of Janelle, who actually seems to like her)? My guess is that Christine was not seeking advice at all. She was seeking an ally. She was trying to persuade Meri to lobby for her to Kody.

Meri has more Kody-clout than any wife, other than Robyn. And Christine knows that she would have better luck with Meri than selfish, calculating Robyn (who would delight in the conversation as it would show Christine's weakness).

When it was clear that Meri was not going to advocate for Christine to Kody, Christine had no choice but to apologize to try to garner favor with "the boss" (aka Kody, King of Bad Hair).

The convo did give other interesting insights, though, that I will write about later.

I feel so bad for Christine. I doubt she'll leave, poor thing. Like someone said before there are organizations willing to help women escape polygamist homes but she'll probably stay for the kids and I cant judge her for that. I had to come on here and read the review for last week to make sure I hadnt missed anything because for the life of me I couldn't figure out why she was apologizing to Kody. She obviously signed up to be the last wife not the third wife like she has said repeatedly but she shouldnt have to apologize for struggling with that.

Who would have thought that a middle aged white woman would be the greatest pimp ever? Thats the business Meri needs to go in to if they want to make some money!!

I haven't had a chance to read through all of the comments, but after watching last night's episode....I felt like I was watching a Season of the Bachelor. I assume TLC must be footing the bill for all of the trips and such? I don't understand where their money is coming from for a family of that size. With four homes, four sets of utility bills, and countless children....my mind can't wrap around it.

I have to agree with several posters that I don't feel sorry for Christine at all. For years, she seemed to be the "favorite" and the most outspoken of the group. Now that someone else has come along that is the favorite, she's pretty ticked. I don't see Meri as a bully at all. It made me sick watching her date last night. She was starved for attention and Kody just walked ahead of her and seemed to have little patience when explaining how to ski. When she fell and got hurt, I don't think he would of given a crap if the camera had not been on him. Then when he sang....oh my. Meri was eating it up. It's sickening to watch. I think she feels that she isn't worthy because she couldn't produce a litter like the others can, so she appeased him by picking out a new you wife for him so that she would be in his good favor. So sad.

Don't feel too bad for Meri...a trip to Mexico as a gift? She could have chosen to put that money into finding out why she can't get pregnant. She chose not to. Meri knows what she is doing....and she's very manipulative.

What a bunch of swindlers! Nobody works and yet they live in big beautiful houses and drive nice cars? They are getting money somewhere and I think it's through welfare and schemes. First they were going to be realtors...that fell through...then gonna open a fitness center...that fell through. Then an online store which I hear is a flop also. I don't know who they think they are kidding, but you can cut the jealousy in the air between them. It's that thick. Did anyone notice Robyn's wedding day, she was left to get ready alone and get her kids ready...while the other sister wives helped each other? Where was the love there? Why didn't they at least keep her kids while she got ready or even help her get ready since it's such a wonderful addition to the family. Not to mention the snide remarks about Robyn getting a house of her own before the move. I think it was Janelle who said they were already financially strapped before she came in and having to rent a house for her was a stretch.

Did anyone notice when they were packing to move, again Robyn was left to pack alone while the other sister wives helped each other?

As for Meri's advising Christine. How off the wall was that. Uhhh Meri was the one who pushed Koty to date Robyn! Look at the timing on that. Could it be Meri was jealous of Christine being all happy and having Koty's child, so her pushing Koty to date Robyn was for spite? To put a wrench in Christine's happiness and birth of her new child? Of all people Christine is then asking Meri for advice???Then Meri was all ga ga over Robyn's baby? I don't recall her being that ga ga over Christine's baby.

Meri is sneaky and manipulative. She get's her whining in but she sugar coats it. Just like when Koty brought up Robyn's name on their date...she said "Robyn Robyn Robyn"..and when he apologized...she laughed it off like she didn't mean it. She meant it and made her point. Then she tells Christine to suck it up and get over the Robyn jealousy? What a hypocrite.

Koty should have stepped in when Janelle's son punched the other in the nose because they sure were not listening to her. He's a matter of feet away and says nothing? Seems like this lifestyle is not to bother the husband? Make sure his life is peaceful and undesturbed?

And another thing. Has anyone else noticed the only kids you ever see hanging on Koty is Robyn's? They are not even his kids yet they are the only ones you ever see hanging on him...sitting on him...etc.

Since the show started the wives have gotten more and more overweight. Could it be they are overeating because they are unhappy and neglected? Trying to fill the void with food? Skinny Robin comes in and they all want to lose weight.

What a bunch of clowns. I don't like talking about people..but hey they are putting themselves out there.

We all saw when they went back to visit their parents. I think maybe Koty's and another one. In fact the one visit was to paint the parent's house. A small old house. That is how these people really live. They are living large right now because of the show....check in on The Hills and Jersey Shore, Real World...etc when the show ends. The sister wives will go back to that also. Being poor with a bunch of kids they can't afford.

I like Christine I support her honesty about her life within the brown clan.I think Kody is not doing so great at balance either there wouldn't be so much resentment if he did.That being said I love sister wives!I relate to their inability to make others at least try to understand their lifestyle. Im still resentful about Robin coming into the family and I admit its just because of the financial burdens Janelle was honest about and the sadness it seems to have caused the other three wives at one point or another since she arrived. Why does it seem Janelle and Kodys relationship was a business arrangement just curious? And why does it seem that Kody lives to get to the end of each of his visits so he can go to Robins house?

I can't remember which sister wife, I think it was Christine, that said in this episode that Kody wasn't the fun loving carefree guy she thought she married and she found that out in the beginning of the marriage. I can't believe they aired that comment.

I am so glad I found this site. I lost my sister (my only family) to a cult just like this one....and it IS a cult. My sister who had once been my best friend began to change once she met this man. I couldn't talk to her against him. The scene when they had the kids fly kites on land they want to own was such a reminder of his manipulation. There were these miracles I couldn't see and the positive energy. I'm so positive it's unreal...but I'm also a realist. He wasn't working and refused to really work. What followed was her popping out one child after another as her sister wives had to collect welfare. This is really why he didn't have to work. It infuriated me that he was basically using these women as a meal ticket. In this lifestyle the man is the head of the house...all his houses. He is not to be questioned. He also does not really have much hand in raising the children or any of the real work. He is expected to walk in the house and everyone know their place. To appease him and not irritate him. The children are not to bother him but love and adore him even when he does not put the time nor energy in to earn that love. I read someone's comment about Robyn's kids being treated better. Trust me...that will pass and in time they will know their place as the rest of the children do. You are right to notice none of the other kids run to him and hang on him. Robyn is new and getting better treatment right now....that will change. I haven't spoken to my sister in 8 years. I was shut out when I objected ...not just by him but also by her. Don't waste your time feeling sorry for these women....they chose this and will defend it. They don't want out...they want him to love them exclusively....and they will chase that until the end because it will never happen. Still they will chase that....and that is all they want.

Thanks for sharing.Your story is sad and poignant about just how destructive this lifestyle can be.I am so sorry about your estrangement from your sister and her children. That must be so painful.

What kind of good and wholesome lifestyle is this is where women are exploited and marginalized like that and where children are more chess pieces for profit, then simply treasured for their existence?

What kind of *men* possess any pride/dignity at all when they avoid legitimate employment and literally live off their stable of women and children via government handouts? Just like grinning, manipulating Kody.

Sorry to hear about losing ur sister to a parasite cult. Hopefully one day, her eyes will finally be opened & she'll want out! Guess when she finally reaches out to you, then that will be her cry for help! Best wishes :D

Really? I don't see that domination with the Browns. Kody is such a joke, it seems like the kids just run all over him. Daddy issues, for sure, but domineering patriarch isn't what comes to mind. More like selfish man-child who doesn't want to hear it unless you are impacting his life.

I'm sorry for your sister, but the Browns might even be less functional because their "patriarch" is such a joke and so worthless. That's also why it feels like they aren't beaten down prairie bonnet women: they can leave, if they are just brave...

I get what you are saying about Kody not coming off as a hardcore tyrant. He doesn't. But there are different styles of domination. But even though the show clips (which really are only what the producers want the viewers to see) display Kody as a simple minded doofus, that could simply be his public face.

There has to be some kind of strict *order and control* to HIS little world where four women are content to take what scraps of attention he chooses to offer them, bear and raise his many children, allow themselves to be welfare recipients, bankruptcy listees and then agree to have their and their children's lives invaded by cameras for the world to see and to judge...all for the money that Kody does not provide.

Kody seems to control with what *he doesn't provide* as a husband and father. I guess emotional starvation can make a person accept the unacceptable or bare minimum if scraps will occasionally then be tossed to you.I agree, these women could leave at any time if they REALLY wanted to, but it is doubtful that any of them will. They are used to this *diet* that Kody controls.And....along with a juicy income, this show has now given them *an identity*...as sick as that is.

I just wanted to point out that the Browns new business venture with LIV is a scam! Several of the LIV products contain caffeine. Even the product that Meri swears by and states she takes on a regular bases: Liv Sxinney Max. Remember, mormons don't use caffeine or anything in their minds that might defile their bodies. I emailed at their LIV address over a week ago asking as a RN and lactation consultant (which I am both) if their products were safe for nursing mothers. I'll give you one guess if I got any response.... NO!!!

Yes they claim if you drink 2 oz of it that it's like eating 2 pounds of fruits and vegetables.... I say eat the fruits and vegetables...it's probably cheaper and healthier than some chemical additive potion. Besides they are all still overweight...so I can tell it works. LOL

I don't know anything about these products, but I wanted to clarify what you said about caffeine. Maybe the polygamy groups are different, but in mainstream Mormonism, there is no official rule whatsoever for Mormons regarding caffeine. I live in Utah, know lots of Mormons (thought I am not one myself) and I can assure you that the vast majority of them DO in fact drink caffeine. There is a joke around here that Diet Coke is like "Mormon meth." They drink it like it's going out of style. Now, I do know a handful of Mormons who choose to abstain from caffeine, but it is a very small minority, and again, something they do by choice, not something they are required to do. I think they are "encouraged" to limit or avoid caffeine, but it is not something they have to do, and as I said, most do not.

Uh, that episode is just proof positive about these people.Right......No one works.

Kody complains that their four-house lifestyle is *hard* on him. *yeah, it must be tough to have to drive his new high-end sports car the 400 ft to his next booty call.*

The wives snipe each at each other in classic passive/aggressive style. They all look so *wanting* for his slightest speck of personal attention to them.

The younger kids look like they are all in perpetual daycare, waiting to be picked up by their parents.The older kids look anxious for this dysfunctional, crazy circus to just stop. They look embarrassed.

The trips and events and *happenings* are all scripted for the show.None of this is *real.*.....it's only purpose is to make $$$ for TLC and the Browns...and to further Kody's agenda to NOT be labeled as a religious fraud and benefits scammer by the government.

Oh, and if Meri wants to be a TV star, she really needs to wash her hair more.

I don't know how accurate this is, but I watched a special on the National Geo channel on different religions. When Joseph Smith was brought up, they stated that his wife had caught him cheating, and that's not long after that he revealed that God came to him and told him to take more wives, etc.. I used to live in Mesa, AZ and there were a lot of Mormons. Even though they didn't practice that belief any longer, many of the wives looked the other way when their husbands sewed their seeds. It was very sad, as these were bright, articulate women.

Is ANYONE surprised to hear that Koty is not the fun loving, life of the party, goofy guy he appears to be on TV? His Crazy Eyes tell the real story. Just watch when one of the wives talk and see the fury and crazed glare in Koty's eyes. It is scary. I would think that a mom that really loved her kids would not want that around them much at all!

And what about how Hunter was a "Monster" when he verbally disrespected Robyn, but his other son gives bro a bloody nose, and Koty just sits back and watches it happen? Person's true character comes out in a crisis, and Koty just walked away.

And the whole scene on Meri's bed....telling Christine to "keep sweet" and just be happy and fun with Koty....I think that is what the religion is all about right there. First wife bullying the other wives in line. The women exist to be "fun fun fun" for the men. People keep saying that we don't see their religion on the show, and snark about how Koty ignores the kids and how Merri bullies the other wives, but I think that IS the religion.

The episode that told the whole truth was the vacation to Bear Lake. Robyn crying that if her kids don't feel welcome they can choose to go live with their dad and poor her she's the victim. When Hunter "rightfully" said he was sick of seeing Dad sit over there with Robyn and Meri putting on makeup and he be expected to work rather than go fishing....got diciplined!!!!!!!!!! Koty even called him a raging testosterone monster? Koty is the one making booty calls from door to door and as much as those women accept it...those kids see it's wrong. So who is really the testosterone monster here??? All Hunter wanted was to go fishing until Janelle finally went with him while Koty and the rest of the wives went on a hike and jet skiing??? Come on...if this was the real world those kids would be taken off of them. In fact Utah tried to and they ran to Nevada...so we are watching criminals. Running from justice.... and child abuse.

Fwd: My comments to the sister wives episode the new third season is, what! Let's be serious for one moment we all know who is at fault for what's going on, meaning "Robin". Its mary's fault, how dare she encouraged cody to get with someone who is completely out of the scope of what a proper sister wife would be, He might as well found anybody,he could of went to the inner cities to found somebody with that type of circumstance. Live why didn't she consult with the other sister wifes when thinking about courting another woman, Now he is fathering not only 16 or 17 of his own kids but 3 more of someone else's kids just another reason to be a part time dad. Im robin has the audacity to ask him if he's going to be there for little skippy. Sorry solomon. Did everyone forget about trudy. She was only here a second before she was out shined by the new wife. I'm not disputing plural marriage to be a bad thing but to be honest someone will always feel left out and in this case it's 3 women and a lot of children.

yep, Robyn's the only winner so far in this train wreck of a family. she's in the nicest house she's ever lived in, doesn't have to worry about bills, doesn't work, has an adoring hubby and father for her kids. SCORE for ROBYN!! she owes Meri a big one! so, of course she kisses Meri's butt. and Kody's, too. ;')

forgot to add - one more thing - Robyn's at the height of her glory where she gets to lie on national TV to garner support for her constant tears/pity party syndrome. a professional Queen of Manipulative Passive/Aggressive Behavior's dream come true! "thanks AGAIN, Meri!! xxoo love, Robyn"

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