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in english:i doubt, in meanwhile, on the competency P4T have. If they would have this competency, the NTSB would bring them to court (for telling such nonsens?)they (p4T) should first show evidence, that the csv file, they claimed it is originally from NTSB, actually is really originally from NTSB officials and further approved by the NTSB.(and additionally i think, he believes that the files are corrupted (manipulated) by somebody :-) maybe you? )

Balsamo took 767 speeds and placed them in an educational Vg diagram, removing the real speeds. Look at the T-37 graph. And then below at the T-38 diagram. Then see Balsamo's fake 767 Vg diagram and he/she admits it, but implies it is valid.

Hi McMurdo. Welcome to the forum and thank you for asking, it is a great question.

Here is the decode protocol for GPS according to Data Frame Layout 757-3b_1.txt used by the NTSB. Note the bold....Bitval 0 Output: INOPER Bitval 1 Output: OPER ...

Hi Rob,so far so good but the question remains.What data does the FDR record if there is no system installed on the aircraft but the FDR/DLF has a parameter to be recorded.Have you checked that with AA, NTSB or the FDR manufacturer?

should be like that:i doubt, in meanwhile, on the competency P4T have. If they would have this competency, they (P4T) would go to court against NTSB

We cannot take the NTSB to court as we are not a victim nor does the NTSB have jurisdiction. Their work product was on behalf of the FBI (see video below). But we did sign an affidavit for a victim. Anyone competent in their research would already know this....

Keep in mind, the above case was thrown out before the evidence was even evaluated by the Judges. One of the Judges being a cousin of George Bush.

Call to the NTSB here...

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Balsamo took 767 speeds and placed them in an educational Vg diagram, removing the real speeds. Look at the T-37 graph. And then below at the T-38 diagram. Then see Balsamo's fake 767 Vg diagram and he/she admits it, but implies it is valid.

In short, if you know the V-speeds of an aircraft, and the G loading limits, you can plot your own V-G diagram for any aircraft. Flight Instructors do it everyday. Those who claim we "faked" the V-G diagram clearly know nothing about aviation.

QUOTE (McMurdo @ Jul 10 2013, 10:33 AM)

What data does the FDR record if there is no system installed on the aircraft but the FDR/DLF has a parameter to be recorded.

They would be using a different Data Frame Layout which does not have equipment listed... such as Data Frame Layout 757-4 for "UA93" which did not have a FLT DECK DOOR sensor installed, nor is it in the Data Frame Layout.

Can you please provide evidence which shows the FLT DECK DOOR open to facilitate a "hijack"?

They would be using a different Data Frame Layout which does not have equipment listed... such as Data Frame Layout 757-4 for "UA93" which did not have a FLT DECK DOOR sensor installed, nor is it in the Data Frame Layout.

Can you please provide evidence which shows the FLT DECK DOOR open to facilitate a "hijack"?

Obviously they used a Data Frame Layout which did have FLT DECK DOOR Port and which did have a GPS Port. The question is what would you read out of a FDR (0 or 1) if you use such Data Frame Layouts even if an aircraft doesn´t have these systems onboard? Can you answer that question?

Obviously they used a Data Frame Layout which did have FLT DECK DOOR Port and which did have a GPS Port. The question is what would you read out of a FDR (0 or 1) if you use such Data Frame Layouts even if an aircraft doesn´t have these systems onboard? Can you answer that question?

Why would anyone use a document to analyze something that does not exist? They would use 757-4 if the FLT DECK DOOR sensor was not installed as they did with "UA93". In other words, if the FLT DECK DOOR sensor was not installed, you would see nothing at all with regard to "FLT DECK DOOR". As is the case with "UA93"

I have answered your question 3 times now....

Can you answer my question?

Can you please provide evidence which shows the FLT DECK DOOR open to facilitate a "hijack"?

And for those having a hard time reading Kolstad's FAA credentials.... click here...

Why would anyone use a document to analyze something that does not exist? They would use 757-4 if the FLT DECK DOOR senor was not installed as they did with "UA93". In other words, if the FLT DECK DOOR sensor was not installed, you would see nothing at all with regard to "FLT DECK DOOR". As is the case with "UA93"

I have answered your question 3 times now....

Is that your answer to a question which has only two possible answers (0 or 1)?

QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jul 10 2013, 05:24 PM)

Can you answer my question?

Can you please provide evidence which shows the FLT DECK DOOR open to facilitate a "hijack"?

Unfortunately to answer this question you first need to answer the question above since we don´t know what a FDR records when a given system is not installed.

by the way, i still cannot log in to the German forum.... when I try to login, it reverts back to the Forum index and says at the top -"Werde jetzt kostenlos Mitglied um Diskussionen zu beobachten und Beiträge zu verfassen (Konto erstellen)."

Translation - "Become a free member now to observe discussions and draft posts (create account)."

Translation - "Become a free member now to observe discussions and draft posts (create account)."

as you mentioned...create account.....possibly you should klick on this link...but i dont think its a good timinng now to join.your reputation is in a bad shape....currently you wopuld face a lot questiuons about Will Clincers pages, discussing your theories and calculations for the G forces....

i am currently tying to analyze this all....since people which offending others by person are mostly the case of problems...i hope, i will figure out, who is causing problems in searching for the truth.

Wrong. There is a 3rd answer. If a FLT DECK DOOR sensor is not installed, use a Data Frame Layout which does not include the FLT DECK DOOR. Such as DFL 757-4 in the case of "UA93".

Wrong, the 3rd answer would be: I don´t know.

Do you agree that there is no GPS installed on AA77?Do you agree that there is GPS data recorded on the FDR?Do you agree that DFL 757-3b (757-3b_1)was used to decode the Data for this FDR?

What about all the other parameters listet under "not working" or "unconfirmed". Do they exist in this specific aircraft or does this abnomaly (system not installed but FDR readout) only occur for GPS and FLIGHT DECK DOOR?

QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jul 10 2013, 06:04 PM)

In other words you cannot provide any evidence showing the FLT DECK DOOR open for a 'hijack' to occur. The only data we have shows the FLT DECK DOOR closed which makes it impossible for a "hijack".

Do you agree that if the data is accurate, then there is a serious problem with the official story?

Since the data is listet under parameters "Not working" or "Unconfirmed" you cannot tell wether these data tells the truth or not, can you?

QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jul 10 2013, 06:04 PM)

by the way, i still cannot log in to the German forum.... when I try to login, it reverts back to the Forum index and says at the top -"Werde jetzt kostenlos Mitglied um Diskussionen zu beobachten und Beiträge zu verfassen (Konto erstellen)."

Translation - "Become a free member now to observe discussions and draft posts (create account)."

I do have problems too loging on into this forum when i´m online with a mobile phone.

You may not know. But we do, and I have tried to explain it to you. Apparently you just don't understand.

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Do you agree that there is no GPS installed on AA77?

According to several American Airlines pilots I have spoken to, American 757's did not have GPS installed in 2001.

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Do you agree that there is GPS data recorded on the FDR?

Yes. It is also apparent a GPS was in the aircraft due to the in flight alignment of the IRS system. In-flight alignment is impossible for an aircraft which does not have a GPS. Since American 757's did not have a GPS installed, yet the data shows it was installed and working, this is evidence that the data did not come from an American Airlines jet.

Keep in mind Pressure Altitude is confirmed and working and listed as a validated parameter by the NTSB. Only one problem, the altitude is too high to hit the Pentagon even in the data provided by Warren Stutt.

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I do have problems too loging on into this forum when i´m online with a mobile phone.

I am not on mobile phone. I am on the same computer I used to create the account and made my first post at your German forum. I can no longer login.

Do you agree that if the data is accurate, then there is a serious problem with the official story?

You may not know. But we do, and I have tried to explain it to you. Apparently you just don't understand.

Ok lets go.

QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jul 10 2013, 07:35 PM)

According to several American Airlines pilots I have spoken to, American 757's did not have GPS installed in 2001.

I agree.

QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jul 10 2013, 07:35 PM)

Yes.

I agree

QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jul 10 2013, 07:35 PM)

According to the NTSB, yes.

I agree.

So what do we have. We have a FDR, we have systems not installed on that aircraft and we have a Data Frame Layout which recorded data even from non existing systems. Assuming all this is true first logical question would be: what data does this FDR record for non existing Systems when you use this DFL? If you cannot answer this question all your conclusions concerning open doors etc. are useless.

QUOTE (rob balsamo @ Jul 10 2013, 07:35 PM)

Do you agree that if the data is accurate, then there is a serious problem with the official story?

So what do we have. We have a FDR, we have systems not installed on that aircraft and we have a Data Frame Layout which recorded data even from non existing systems.

I know English is your second language. But your above statement doesnt make much sense. The Data Frame Layout is a document, a database. It does not record anything.

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Assuming all this is true first logical question would be: what data does this FDR record for non existing Systems when you use this DFL? If you cannot answer this question all your conclusions concerning open doors etc. are useless.

The data will not be able to be decoded. The result is non-sensical. It is further evidence that the data is not from an American Airlines 757. Again, please see the link I provided to you above.

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No, what would be the alternative scenario?

No? So if the altitude is too high to hit the Pentagon and the altitude is accurate (and validated according to the NTSB)... then there isn't a problem with the govt story in your opinion? Really?

Well a long and growing list of Aviation professionals disagree with you.

next clear question....does the DFL for 757/200 which should be used to read out data for 757 at that time (2001) containing GPS data?

regardsvienna

According to the NTSB... yes. That is the DFL they used to decode the file. However, according to several American Airlines pilots, American 757's did not have a GPS in 2001. But anyone who looks at the data can see the GPS as OPERational... and see it actually working when it aligns the IRS in flight.

Again.... this is further evidence that the data did not come from an American Airlines 757.