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Re: Copper Criminals Circling The Drain

Originally Posted by jamesrage

Copper thieves have been around long before Obama was in office. Obama doesn't have squat to do with these scum. The solution is to impose lengthy prison terms on these scum and to require these scrap yards and other metal recyclers to keep a copy of the seller's ID and license plate number, require that those selling a certain amount of copper must actually be a licensed plumber or electrician or some other business that would have a lot of scrap copper and other valuable metal.

Thieves in general have been around since freaking multicellular life evolved.

Our illustrious OP, on the other hand, seems to think this is somehow unique to Obama and liberalism.

Re: Copper Criminals Circling The Drain

Wait a minute, I thought he used the governments top secret weather machine to create Katrina because he hates black people.

No. He just wasn't the most competent guy we've ever had in office. But if I made that claim that you made above, I'd get close to what some are doing today.

AUSTAN GOOLSBEE:I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

Re: Copper Criminals Circling The Drain

You liberals are so funny, you completely miss the point.....Crime, and theft are not new things to be sure, and if I insinuated that Obama was responsible for crime itself, then my bad.

But, I believe I was making the correlation that crime is on the up swing in our country..

Chicago is a great city, but developing news on its increased homicide rate speaks to a problem that has not gotten any public attention from our president. “While 144 Americans have died in Afghanistan in 2012, 228 Chicago residents have been killed. The murder rate is up 35 percent from last year,” according to CBS News. And this type of homicide, which has caused the city to call in outside help, possibly poses the most dangerous threat to black Americans, black-on-black crime.

Then there is the rash of teen take overs of stores and shopping areas in cities across the country...

Police in Jacksonville, Fla. are investigating a night of violence that included a rampage by more than 300 teenagers in a Walmart store. A portion of the mayhem was captured on video and posted to YouTube. The video shows young people pouring into the store, yelling, screaming and throwing merchandise. A security scanner worth $1,500 was destroyed.
According to a 17-page incident report, the Jacksonville Sheriff’s Dept. confirmed that gunshots were fired in the parking lot of the store – but said no one was injured.
A Walmart spokesperson told Fox News Radio the attack lasted less than five minutes.
“The actions of these teenagers were deplorable and put at risk the safety of innocent bystanders,” spokesperson Dianna Gee told Fox News Radio. “We’re committed to assisting law enforcement in any way we can to help identify the people responsible for the commotion, including the acts of vandalism and theft that occurred at our store.”

Mobs attacking people on beaches and amusement parks....
Mobs threatening people in neighborhoods...
Vandalism against peoples cars that don't Dear Leader

And all the while you never hear anything of prosecution, or jail time involved. No, instead we get the 'beer summit' after Obama puts his foot in his mouth calling police doing their jobs, 'acting stupidly'....

Instead, we get Jamie Foxx in a liberalgasm blurting out this....

Jamie Foxx is drawing criticism for calling President Barack Obama "our Lord and savior" at the recent Soul Train Music Awards in Las Vegas.

In the pre-recorded program that was broadcast Sunday night on BET, Foxx urges the audience to "first of all, give an honor to God -- and our Lord and savior, Barack Obama!"

And the Obamabots, the drones in here constantly covering for Lord Obama's rotten, corrupt, ham handed application of the office of POTUS is stunning....

Y'all think the thread is stupid? Don't reply. But I want a conversation on this President and how he is screwing up the country, and how mind numbingly dumb people that voted him back in didn't do so based on anything good he has done, but rather on anger at those that disagree with them alone...

consider this from Morning Joe yesterday...

On his Monday broadcast, MSNBC “Morning Joe” host attempted to understand a phenomenon that not only plagues his network’s primetime lineup, but apparently his Twitter account as well: Why are liberals “angry” after winning the White House again and holding on to control of the U.S. Senate?

So, laugh at me? No, I am the one laughing...At liberal childishness, and immaturity. The only problem is in if the country is smart enough to wake up and see what this thug, criminal President is up to and stop him before he destroys this country.

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Re: Copper Criminals Circling The Drain

Originally Posted by j-mac

So, laugh at me? No, I am the one laughing...At liberal childishness, and immaturity. The only problem is in if the country is smart enough to wake up and see what this thug, criminal President is up to and stop him before he destroys this country.

Re: Copper Criminals Circling The Drain

You liberals are so funny, you completely miss the point.....Crime, and theft are not new things to be sure, and if I insinuated that Obama was responsible for crime itself, then my bad.

But, I believe I was making the correlation that crime is on the up swing in our country..

Then there is the rash of teen take overs of stores and shopping areas in cities across the country...

Mobs attacking people on beaches and amusement parks....
Mobs threatening people in neighborhoods...
Vandalism against peoples cars that don't Dear Leader

And all the while you never hear anything of prosecution, or jail time involved. No, instead we get the 'beer summit' after Obama puts his foot in his mouth calling police doing their jobs, 'acting stupidly'....

Instead, we get Jamie Foxx in a liberalgasm blurting out this....

And the Obamabots, the drones in here constantly covering for Lord Obama's rotten, corrupt, ham handed application of the office of POTUS is stunning....

Y'all think the thread is stupid? Don't reply. But I want a conversation on this President and how he is screwing up the country, and how mind numbingly dumb people that voted him back in didn't do so based on anything good he has done, but rather on anger at those that disagree with them alone...

consider this from Morning Joe yesterday...

So, laugh at me? No, I am the one laughing...At liberal childishness, and immaturity. The only problem is in if the country is smart enough to wake up and see what this thug, criminal President is up to and stop him before he destroys this country.

The plural of anecdote is not data. You have no idea what crime rates are doing. You just went and assumed they must be increasing because OBAMA BAD.

Crime rates have decreased lately. In 2010, the violent crime rate was the lowest since 1971, the homicide rate the lowest since 1961, and the property crime rate the lowest since 1967.

You, sir, are guilty of truthiness. You want to just rant about how the president is the worst person since Satan? Go back to free republic. Here, you're going to get called out for making **** up.

Re: Copper Criminals Circling The Drain

You liberals are so funny, you completely miss the point.....Crime, and theft are not new things to be sure, and if I insinuated that Obama was responsible for crime itself, then my bad.

But, I believe I was making the correlation that crime is on the up swing in our country..

Then there is the rash of teen take overs of stores and shopping areas in cities across the country...

Mobs attacking people on beaches and amusement parks....
Mobs threatening people in neighborhoods...
Vandalism against peoples cars that don't Dear Leader

And all the while you never hear anything of prosecution, or jail time involved. No, instead we get the 'beer summit' after Obama puts his foot in his mouth calling police doing their jobs, 'acting stupidly'....

Instead, we get Jamie Foxx in a liberalgasm blurting out this....

And the Obamabots, the drones in here constantly covering for Lord Obama's rotten, corrupt, ham handed application of the office of POTUS is stunning....

Y'all think the thread is stupid? Don't reply. But I want a conversation on this President and how he is screwing up the country, and how mind numbingly dumb people that voted him back in didn't do so based on anything good he has done, but rather on anger at those that disagree with them alone...

consider this from Morning Joe yesterday...

So, laugh at me? No, I am the one laughing...At liberal childishness, and immaturity. The only problem is in if the country is smart enough to wake up and see what this thug, criminal President is up to and stop him before he destroys this country.

When in doubt, double down on stupid. First you try and blame Obama for people steeling copper, even though it has been done forever. Then when that blows up in your face, instead of admitting you got it wrong, you shift to a new claim, that crime is up under Obama, even though it is not supported by any of the evidence you offer. In point of fact, there are statistics on crime rates, and they show the opposite of what you claim.
2008 arrest data2011 arrest data

The FBI estimated that 14,005,615 arrests occurred in 2008 for all offenses (except traffic violations). Of these arrests, 594,911 were for violent crimes and 1,687,345 were for property crimes.

Nationwide, law enforcement made an estimated 12,408,899 arrests in 2011. Of these arrests, 534,704 were for violent crimes, and 1,639,883 were for property crimes. (Note: the UCR Program does not collect data on citations for traffic violations.)

So it turns out both total arrests and arrests for violent crimes are down. Now I am sure, you being fair and all, that you will give Obama credit for this, just as you tried to blame him....

We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham

Re: Copper Criminals Circling The Drain

Originally Posted by Redress

When in doubt, double down on stupid. First you try and blame Obama for people steeling copper, even though it has been done forever. Then when that blows up in your face, instead of admitting you got it wrong, you shift to a new claim, that crime is up under Obama, even though it is not supported by any of the evidence you offer. In point of fact, there are statistics on crime rates, and they show the opposite of what you claim.
2008 arrest data2011 arrest data

So it turns out both total arrests and arrests for violent crimes are down. Now I am sure, you being fair and all, that you will give Obama credit for this, just as you tried to blame him....

If you're holding your breath, please let us know. We need to get that ambulance moving.

Re: Copper Criminals Circling The Drain

Originally Posted by Redress

The reason people are laughing at you is you posted stupid ****. This stuff has been going on forever. My dad used to bitch that if he left the back of his work truck unlocked all the wire was gone, and this was back 30 years ago....

The fact that you want to blame everything you see on Obama is not just hilarious, but kinda sad and revealing.