However Zachriel and OMTWO cannot grasp that and instead blather on and on about "random with respect to fitness", which is a total cowardly cop out. Ya see the point is NOT whether or not mutations are random wrt fitness. The point is whether or not the mutations were directed in any way.

Also Joe in the same post,

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This experiment demonstrated that the resitance to anti-biotics was already in the population when the anti-biotics were introduced (put on the plate).

IOW the resistance did not come in response to the exposure.

Simple question then.

If the resistance did not come in response to the exposure then why did the communication spark the variation that afforded the anti-biotic resistance at a time there was no anti-biotic?

--------------I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot standGordon Mullings

Feel free to weigh in, but be nice. Show the community that we're better than Joe. Just flood him with questions and evidence until he melts-down.

Let's get a good Friday meltdown going...

Well, joey certainly showed off some of his ignorance and arrogance in that thread on your new blog. He continues to amaze me with his incredibly stupid assertions and his unearned air of authority. 'Incorrigible' doesn't even begin to describe joey.

--------------Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Feel free to weigh in, but be nice. Show the community that we're better than Joe. Just flood him with questions and evidence until he melts-down.

Let's get a good Friday meltdown going...

Wasn't it just last year that JoeTard was screaming that he wasn't using the name "frisbee_kid", that there were several other people using that account but not him?

Joe Gallien - still candidate for dumbest human ever to post on the web.

--------------"Science is what got us to the humble place weâ€™re at, and what hard-won progress we might realize comes from science, with ID completely flaccid, religious apologetics bitching from the sidelines." - Eigenstate at UD

"As someone with a relatively strong background in encryption I understand the importance of differentiating between meaningful information and random nonsense."

If this were indeed true you would immediately have noticed that one of my documents (as per my recent little game) was just a random sequence. Each character has an equal chance of being selected at each position.

The other document is quite different however. But given that so far you've been unable to even tell them apart I hold out no hope that you'll tell me something, anything about the other document or even identify which is which.

So, with 50% of the answer given can you tell or is ID just a nonsense bluff?

--------------I also mentioned that He'd have to give me a thorough explanation as to *why* I must "eat human babies".FTK

if there are even critical flaws in Gauger’s work, the evo mat narrative cannot standGordon Mullings

So what do I do? Support my claims and ID and watch hiim choke. Kevin asks me how to measure information. So I tell him. He chokes. Kevin asks me to see if an organism has CSI. I show him. He chokes and bans me. He sez I won't support ID in the same thread that I support ID.

Here's a link to the blog show (http://skepticink.com/smilodonsretreat/2012/10/18/lenskis-lab-the-gift-that-keeps-on-giving/). Show me where you calculated or measured the CSI of an organism. Direct quote, please.

Show me where you measured the information in anything. Direct quote please.

Show me where you supported ID, direct quote please. Because, no fewer than three people begged you to support ID... and you didn't. Just like you haven't for 30 months.

--------------Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

Of course he is. He thinks he won. He thinks he's so sure of his position, that he e-mailed the owners of the Skeptic Ink Network and told them that I was a liar.

John Loftus said "He's just a creationist troll. Should be banned."

LOL

eta: Joe really doesn't understand science does he? Of course, he thinks that his observing ticks under a watermelon rind is science and trying to experimentally verify others conclusions and provide support for hypotheses isn't science.

wow

Edited by OgreMkV on Oct. 20 2012,19:36

--------------Ignored by those who can't provide evidence for their claims.

Of course he is. He thinks he won. He thinks he's so sure of his position, that he e-mailed the owners of the Skeptic Ink Network and told them that I was a liar.

John Loftus said "He's just a creationist troll. Should be banned."

LOL

eta: Joe really doesn't understand science does he? Of course, he thinks that his observing ticks under a watermelon rind is science and trying to experimentally verify others conclusions and provide support for hypotheses isn't science.

wow

rrrrm

actually

finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science

so, pretty much anytime you wanna go "what the fuck do we know have you looked at your hand" that is science.

according to this retard,anyway

--------------You're obviously illiterate as hell. Peach, bro.-FtK

Finding something hard to believe based on the evidence, is science.-JoeG

What exactly did you tell him about how to measure "information"? And let's see you measure the "information" in a banana and an aardvark and show your work. You can do it, can't you?

"He chokes."

Wrong, but you, on the other hand, have been choking on your hacked up IDiotic hairballs for a long time joey.

"Kevin asks me to see if an organism has CSI. I show him."

He asked you to "see" if an organism has CSI? Or did he ask you to measure/calculate the CSI in an organism? And what exactly did you "show" him? Measure the CSI in a banana and an aardvark joey, and show your work.

"He chokes and bans me."

See above about who chokes, and who the hell are you to bitch about being banned?

"He sez I won't support ID in the same thread that I support ID."

He's right joey. You didn't "support" ID in that thread or at any other place, ever. It will take a lot more than the projectile vomit you and your fellow IDiot-creationists spew to "support" ID.

"That more than proves that Kevin is a clueless coward. But then again we have known that for years."

Says the crybaby coward who has never had a clue. And who's "we" joey? You and your ticks or you and the voices in your head?

--------------Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. - Jesus in Matthew 10:34

But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. -Jesus in Luke 19:27

Artifact:1 a something created by humans usually for a practical purpose;1 b something characteristic of or resulting from a particular human institution, period, trend, or individual.2 a product of artificial character (as in a scientific test) due usually to extraneous (as human) agency

The standard definition of an artifact is not something that cannot be explained through a natural mechanism. Instead, it is something that is positively tied to human agency.

Artifact:1 a something created by humans usually for a practical purpose;1 b something characteristic of or resulting from a particular human institution, period, trend, or individual.2 a product of artificial character (as in a scientific test) due usually to extraneous (as human) agency

The standard definition of an artifact is not something that cannot be explained through a natural mechanism. Instead, it is something that is positively tied to human agency.

If Joe had bothered to google the word "artifact", he would find the etymological meaning is "made by skill" and the origin of the word was specific to objects created via human skill.

Though not falling to the same level of stupidity of "ice is not water," still a major fail by the ever moronic existence that is JoeG, a bigger, dumber ass that any Kardashian appendage.

Artifact:1 a something created by humans usually for a practical purpose;1 b something characteristic of or resulting from a particular human institution, period, trend, or individual.2 a product of artificial character (as in a scientific test) due usually to extraneous (as human) agency

The standard definition of an artifact is not something that cannot be explained through a natural mechanism. Instead, it is something that is positively tied to human agency.

If Joe had bothered to google the word "artifact", he would find the etymological meaning is "made by skill" and the origin of the word was specific to objects created via human skill.

Though not falling to the same level of stupidity of "ice is not water," still a major fail by the ever moronic existence that is JoeG, a bigger, dumber ass that any Kardashian appendage.

He has previously reported it at 150. I believe it's much earlier in this thread, about the time he thought we were jealous of his car.

Of IQ doesn't have anything to do with actual intelligence. It's more of cognitive function. So even if he wasn't lying (and he is) it doesn't mean he has the knowledge or wisdom to do anything with it.

The distribution graph for IQ stops at 150, which means, according to Joe. He's in the top 99.999% of the population of the planet for IQ. And if you believe that, I've got some land that you might be interested in.

He has previously reported it at 150. I believe it's much earlier in this thread, about the time he thought we were jealous of his car.

Of IQ doesn't have anything to do with actual intelligence. It's more of cognitive function. So even if he wasn't lying (and he is) it doesn't mean he has the knowledge or wisdom to do anything with it.

The distribution graph for IQ stops at 150, which means, according to Joe. He's in the top 99.999% of the population of the planet for IQ. And if you believe that, I've got some land that you might be interested in.