San Fran because [word only appropriate in smack forum, but is short hand synonym for copulation, but meanly. Very meanly] Baltimore.

Born in DC, grew up in Columbia, MD (that's right), was leaving High School (in Baltimore, to be fair) when the Nevermores showed up and the Baltimorons became the biggest hypocrites on the face of the (NFL) planet.

Charm City, my hind parts.

Go Niners! Stomp a mudhole!

I know he got a pretty good zip on the ball. He has a quick release. . . once I seen a coupla' throws, I was just like 'Yeah, he's that dude.'"

What would happen to Randy Moss if some guys he was hanging with tonight got mixed up in a bloody stabbing murder, if Moss was seen wearing a white suit tonight that was never seen again, if blood from one of the victims was found in Moss' limo, and if he then pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice in exchange for turning state's evidence in the ensuing case?

DarthMonk wrote:What would happen to Randy Moss if some guys he was hanging with tonight got mixed up in a bloody stabbing murder, if Moss was seen wearing a white suit tonight that was never seen again, if blood from one of the victims was found in Moss' limo, and if he then pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice in exchange for turning state's evidence in the ensuing case?

Just askin'.

I hate the 49ers but I'll be pulling for them.

Same here. The Ray Lewis worship has been particularly disgusting to me, though I need no extra reasons to hate the Ravens.

Go Niners.

"I’m never under the assumption that you draft for need. You draft the best available football player on the board. ... Because, in the long run, they are the ones who will help you win the most games." - Scot McCloughan

skinsfan#33 wrote:The rat birds! My son will be crushed if not. He is a Skins and Ravens; I can't convince him that you can't be both.

Plus I stol have some hate for the 49ers, stealing the lime light of the 80's away from the Skins.

Gibbs > WalshWalsh did not invent the "west coast" offense, some guy named Brown did.

I agree with you about the Skins being the real team of the '80s, but Walsh did invent that offense. granted he was a coach on Brown's staff at the time.

The roots of the Cincinnati our west coast offense come from the time Paul Brown and Sid Gilman spent together at Ohio state back in the 30s and 40s. Brown, Gilman, and Walsh all had input into the Cincinnati offense. Walsh made out popular, but it is incorrect to give him credit.

"Dovie'andi se tovya sagain"
(It is time to roll the dice) Tai'shar Manetheren

"Duty is heavier than a Mountain, Death is lighter than a feather" Tai'shar Malkier

I'm over the people who are condemning Ray Lewis over the 1999 case. He probably was with the wrong crowd at the time. Shocker. Kid from inner city goes to college, does the right things, makes it, has millions of dollars, and his "friends" who are still in the inner city tag along and trouble happens. Wow. Big shock. Mix young kids from poor areas, surround them with women, money and alcohol - then put them around other liquored up guys from the inner city and well...somebody can get into a fight trying to prove whatever they're trying to prove. Happens all the time, but we don't hear about it. All it takes is one guy to do something criminal, and the person with the biggest name is implicated in it.

Bottom line is Ray Lewis didn't get convicted of anything, and I doubt he did anything. I live in DC and not only has Baltimore represented the area well while we've totally sucked. But, they are an AFC team whose success rarely if ever impacts ours.

I am a die hard Skins fan, and I can recall at least 3 big playoff games where we had to go through San Fran. As a football purist, DC native, I am pulling for the Ravens.

Not to mention, my fiance did her residency at UMD & Mercy Hospital in MD, so I became familiar with the Inner Harbor, Fells Point and other areas. Those people are blue collar and go hard for their team. Their games versus the Steelers remind me of our Cowboy games minus the national scope of it.

skinsfan#33 wrote:The rat birds! My son will be crushed if not. He is a Skins and Ravens; I can't convince him that you can't be both.

Plus I stol have some hate for the 49ers, stealing the lime light of the 80's away from the Skins.

Gibbs > WalshWalsh did not invent the "west coast" offense, some guy named Brown did.

I agree with you about the Skins being the real team of the '80s, but Walsh did invent that offense. granted he was a coach on Brown's staff at the time.

The roots of the Cincinnati our west coast offense come from the time Paul Brown and Sid Gilman spent together at Ohio state back in the 30s and 40s. Brown, Gilman, and Walsh all had input into the Cincinnati offense. Walsh made out popular, but it is incorrect to give him credit.

Pretty much all coaches learned from coaches before them. Gibbs' offense had roots in the Air Coryell offense of San Diego, but that doesn't mean he didn't put his own twist on it. The same is true of the WCO and Walsh. If you're going to name an inventor of the WCO, it has to be Walsh.

langleyparkjoe wrote:If you are a native Washingtonian, there is no way you will root for Bmore to win.

410 and 202 rivalry goes beyond sports and I'll leave it at that and if you are a native of either place, you already know what I mean.

GO 9'ERS!

Can't agree with that at all. The "rivalry" is more or less the people in PG that don't like BMore. The Maryland heads who grew up on DC but didn't like the Baltimore association. But, as far as actual sports dislike, it's just not true. Maybe this is true for Go Go heads versus House/Techno heads, or in other cultural ways, but in sports, the only two relevant ones here: Football & Baseball have no overlap at all.

There's no real Orioles/Nats or Skins/Ravens beef. It's just the people who live here who don't like each other. That's not a rivalry. That's just how it is everywhere.

Pittsburgh people aren't Philly people. But their teams aren't more of a rivalry than the Steelers Ravens or the Eagles Cowboys. It's a bragging rights thing. A blip in the radar every 4 years and that's it.

Nobody I know tunes in on Sundays and wants the Ravens to lose. The Cowboys, Eagles, & Giants- yes. The Ravens? For what

Deadskins wrote: ... Pretty much all coaches learned from coaches before them. Gibbs' offense had roots in the Air Coryell offense of San Diego, but that doesn't mean he didn't put his own twist on it. The same is true of the WCO and Walsh. If you're going to name an inventor of the WCO, it has to be Walsh.

+1

anytime a HC has a Joe Montana and a Jerry Rice running an offense PLUS some other HOF players - you deserve the recognition

The Redskins offense that Mike and Kyle are DESIGNING around RG3 will soon get the credit it deserves too

this offense might be based on the WCO but it is ALL solely due to these guys wanting to take advantage of an exceptional athlete

Kind of funny how some think there are other QBs that can manage a variation of what the Redskins are doing offensively ..

there are NO QBs playing at this time that have the combination of speed AND the passing ability/touch AND the mind of RGIII - NOT ONE
some have parts but nobody is close to having the total package

we are very lucky to be watching this - looking forward to seeing what transpires here when RG3 takes to the field again ...

FASTER AND A LOT WISER

I have one daughter in Baltimore and one in SFO - I'm looking forward to seeing a good game

We are looking for players and coaches "who understand that it’s all about the team and that we’re going to take care of each other, no matter what" - S. McCloughan

Bmore has always grudged us because they are little NY while we are little NOBODY.

Heck, this past weekend while I was over the folks in NE.. my man's cousin from Bmore was there and we even asked him.. if Skins was in the SB would YOU root for us. You know that bama said hell naw.. he'd NEVER want any of our sporting teams to win anything.

I said good, * ya'll too!!!.. that sentiment was all over the place.

I don't know about VA but DC Metro, we can't stand them.

Oh, and to answer the "for what" question.. cause we are that close and we can't stand hearing them bamas brag about anything. So * the Ravens, the Orioles, any future sporting teams, their lacrosse teams, and anything from Bmore not named "The Wire" and the Harbor.