And over the weekend, the saga regarding Canonical, GNOME, and KDE has continued. Lots of comments all over the web, some heated, some well-argued, some wholly indifferent. Most interestingly, Jeff Waugh and Dave Neary have elaborated on GNOME's position after the initial blog posts by Shuttleworth and Seigo, providing a more coherent look at GNOME's side of the story.

An implementation detail that happens to be very important for users, because XEmbed is widely agreed to have a great deal of things wrong with it.

The question is, what replaces it? Does it get replaced by something that desktops and applications can agree on and communicate through and work with or do we go the traditional Unix and CDE route with a a ton of fragmentation that provides no benefits to anyone?

You know fine well why Aaron specifically mentioned D-Bus in what he wrote. Do we really need to go over why D-Bus was initiated and what benefits common communication between differing applications and desktops brings to users?

I think you're just digging a bigger hole here Dave, and it's sad to see.