Please, I bet you will come to find out shortly that EVERY team does it and the Pats are the only ones to get caught. They got caught apparently because of Mangina the coach of the Jets being pissed that he can't beat the Pats and spilling the beans as he was defensive coordinator up here before his NY gig. Otherwise they don't get caught I bet. It's all good no one can stop the Pats, we lose draft picks that wouldn't make the team anyway, big deal. It still doesn't change anything except that now the border wars with NY Jets have begun again in earnest. Pats are still the best team in football. They are at the top so it's big news as everyone wants to knock them down because they can't on the field lol. People can say what they want, but it doesn't change anything at all on the field, they will still crush everyone this season on their way to the championship. Look at the Cleveland Indians 2 or 3 years ago, they had a camera in center field feeding right into the dugout tv, showing the catcher signs so they could steal them. With the amount of money in today's professional sports, teams are gonna do whatever they can legal or not to get the upper hand and gain advantage. People still have to play on the field too don't forget. If the guy in front of you smacks you down, what good did the intel you had do you lol. You knew he was gonna smack you down? It's silly that they still use hand signals for defense calls anyway with today's technology, I mean the offense uses in helmet radios already for their calls from the bench. I wonder why they don't have the defense do that too, makes no sense again with the amount of money in the game and the availability of technology. But regardless they got caught and will get their hands spanked Friday after they meet with the commish and then a month from now it won't matter anymore. The pats will still be crushing teams regardless, and then adding Harrison and Seymore back to the defense and getting even better!

Please, I bet you will come to find out shortly that EVERY team does it and the Pats are the only ones to get caught. They got caught apparently because of Mangina the coach of the Jets being pissed that he can't beat the Pats and spilling the beans as he was defensive coordinator up here before his NY gig. Otherwise they don't get caught I bet. It's all good no one can stop the Pats, we lose draft picks that wouldn't make the team anyway, big deal. It still doesn't change anything except that now the border wars with NY Jets have begun again in earnest. Pats are still the best team in football. They are at the top so it's big news as everyone wants to knock them down because they can't on the field lol. People can say what they want, but it doesn't change anything at all on the field, they will still crush everyone this season on their way to the championship. Look at the Cleveland Indians 2 or 3 years ago, they had a camera in center field feeding right into the dugout tv, showing the catcher signs so they could steal them. With the amount of money in today's professional sports, teams are gonna do whatever they can legal or not to get the upper hand and gain advantage. People still have to play on the field too don't forget. If the guy in front of you smacks you down, what good did the intel you had do you lol. You knew he was gonna smack you down? It's silly that they still use hand signals for defense calls anyway with today's technology, I mean the offense uses in helmet radios already for their calls from the bench. I wonder why they don't have the defense do that too, makes no sense again with the amount of money in the game and the availability of technology. But regardless they got caught and will get their hands spanked Friday after they meet with the commish and then a month from now it won't matter anymore. The pats will still be crushing teams regardless, and then adding Harrison and Seymore back to the defense and getting even better!

I didnt read all that well because i kept losing my place LOL

If you think getting back a guy who used steroids is going to help then so be it.

LOL It dont matter how much you defend the Pats they will be know this whole year as cheaters.

So much for the Broncos lmao!!! Here is their coach admitting he did the same thing to and SI reporter only using binoculars instead of video. Like I said they all do it one way or another....

Jan 9, 2002

Mike Shanahan wrote:

It's no rumor, pal. "Our guy keeps a pair of binoculars on theirsignal-callers every game." "With anyluck, we have their defensive signals figured out by halftime.Sometimes, by the end of the first quarter."

We dont record! We mesmorize, sucka. We're too smart. I guess you can't call it cheating but you cant call it fair. Oh and we use binoculars, everyone does. Not everyone uses a videocamera, I've seen coaches in the booth use binoculars.

P.S. And who said the Pats were on top? haha, last time i checked the Colts gave you guys a spanking!

lol all cordinators in the both use binoculars,there so far away they wouldnt see jack shit from up there.

and if your a top team such as Pats,Yankiees,spurs,and so on, everyone is going to try and find something to pull you down because your expectations are much higher than average teams.you shouldnt need a unfair advantage when you have the best team.If your good you dont need shit but your teamates.

Yea right, NFL won't do shit. Krafty Bob as we call him up here lol, is the most powerful owner in the league. Only Jerry Jones can rival him and what he has done for the league from a financial standpoint. Besides EVERYONE is doing this regardless of what you think. This only happened because Mangini in NY broke the sacred "cost of doing business" code of silence among all NFL coaches and splilled the beans on Bellichick to get back at him because of their personal differences. Why do you think that Green Bay for instance last year who bitched about this practice did not turn them into the league at that time? They had the proof as well. They have publicly admitted this week, "it was because we were doing it too." I hope Mangini ejoys his head coach position because I guarantee it will be his last in the NFL. It is common knowledge now that NO TEAM will ever hire him again after this.

But answer me this, how come no one bitches about San Diego player Sean Merriman doing roids, getting suspended last year for 4 games, and then being the defensive player of the year, leading the league in sacks with 14 1/2 and a pro bowler as well. You think maybe it had something to do with cheating and having a performance enhancing reason? Where is the bitching about that? I love how the double standards don't apply to that with a lot of the mouths I see on tv talking shit about the Pats lol. When your the best everyone wants to take you down....

Yea right, NFL won't do shit. Krafty Bob as we call him up here lol, is the most powerful owner in the league. Only Jerry Jones can rival him and what he has done for the league from a financial standpoint. Besides EVERYONE is doing this regardless of what you think. This only happened because Mangini in NY broke the sacred "cost of doing business" code of silence among all NFL coaches and splilled the beans on Bellichick to get back at him because of their personal differences. Why do you think that Green Bay for instance last year who bitched about this practice did not turn them into the league at that time? They had the proof as well. They have publicly admitted this week, "it was because we were doing it too." I hope Mangini ejoys his head coach position because I guarantee it will be his last in the NFL. It is common knowledge now that NO TEAM will ever hire him again after this.

But answer me this, how come no one bitches about San Diego player Sean Merriman doing roids, getting suspended last year for 4 games, and then being the defensive player of the year, leading the league in sacks with 14 1/2 and a pro bowler as well. You think maybe it had something to do with cheating and having a performance enhancing reason? Where is the bitching about that? I love how the double standards don't apply to that with a lot of the mouths I see on tv talking shit about the Pats lol. When your the best everyone wants to take you down....

1st bolded part: GB did do something they had the camerman removed from the sideline!!

2nd Bolded part: They did have a big debate on that and most agreed that his suspension was good enough and that the levels they found in his blood were deemed to be very low and I am not sure but if I remember correctly it wasnt a steroid it was a banned substance in a cold medicine. I would have to research that so am NOT 100% sure.

Your DB Rodney Harris i think is GUILTY of steroids and should be banned for the year thats just my opinion. Any player caught for steriods should be banned for a year. If its a banned substance other then steroids or HG then thats different. Everyone likes to smoke a lil pot. LOL

HGH is what it was for Harrison and is not a steroid. He came forward and admitted to it, there is no test for it either. He could have sat back and said prove it, prove I used it, when those reports came out he got some of it from that drug ring, but he stood up like a man and admitted it. Merriman no matter what the level was also cheating but with steroids, so should the admitted cheater be winning anything like personal awards? Would he be that good without it? He didn't win it the year before when he tested negative?

Yea right, NFL won't do shit. Krafty Bob as we call him up here lol, is the most powerful owner in the league. Only Jerry Jones can rival him and what he has done for the league from a financial standpoint. Besides EVERYONE is doing this regardless of what you think. This only happened because Mangini in NY broke the sacred "cost of doing business" code of silence among all NFL coaches and splilled the beans on Bellichick to get back at him because of their personal differences. Why do you think that Green Bay for instance last year who bitched about this practice did not turn them into the league at that time? They had the proof as well. They have publicly admitted this week, "it was because we were doing it too." I hope Mangini ejoys his head coach position because I guarantee it will be his last in the NFL. It is common knowledge now that NO TEAM will ever hire him again after this.

But answer me this, how come no one bitches about San Diego player Sean Merriman doing roids, getting suspended last year for 4 games, and then being the defensive player of the year, leading the league in sacks with 14 1/2 and a pro bowler as well. You think maybe it had something to do with cheating and having a performance enhancing reason? Where is the bitching about that? I love how the double standards don't apply to that with a lot of the mouths I see on tv talking shit about the Pats lol. When your the best everyone wants to take you down....

1st bolded part: GB did do something they had the camerman removed from the sideline!!

2nd Bolded part: They did have a big debate on that and most agreed that his suspension was good enough and that the levels they found in his blood were deemed to be very low and I am not sure but if I remember correctly it wasnt a steroid it was a banned substance in a cold medicine. I would have to research that so am NOT 100% sure.

Your DB Rodney Harris i think is GUILTY of steroids and should be banned for the year thats just my opinion. Any player caught for steriods should be banned for a year. If its a banned substance other then steroids or HG then thats different. [size=18]Everyone likes to smoke a lil pot[/size]. LOL

There you go fuckers, the MVP and the supposed best defense fucking crushed 38-10!!! Whose next motherfuckers!! Take our cameras away and we just get pissed and make a statement lmao!! No one can stop the Pats, give us the fucking Bellichick Trophy now!!! That's right he's better than Lombardi and the tro[hy will be named after him lol, and no matter what pieces of shit like Mangini in NY try and do to tarnish that he will go down in history as the best coach ever bar none!! Fuck you if you don't realize that bitch!! Did you all see this game? How the fuck can you ever be 4th and 40 with Gates and the MVP Thomlinson ahahaha!!

There you go fuckers, the MVP and the supposed best defense fucking crushed 38-10!!! Whose next motherfuckers!! Take our cameras away and we just get pissed and make a statement lmao!! No one can stop the Pats, give us the fucking Bellichick Trophy now!!! That's right he's better than Lombardi and the tro[hy will be named after him lol, and no matter what pieces of shit like Mangini in NY try and do to tarnish that he will go down in history as the best coach ever bar none!! Fuck you if you don't realize that bitch!! Did you all see this game? How the fuck can you ever be 4th and 40 with Gates and the MVP Thomlinson ahahaha!!

Sorry but the best NFL coach ever just passed away this year and his name is Bill Walsh. He didnt need to cheat to win. NUFF SAID.