have found and tried all of this - switched to brandnav and have the image low on the page but i need to have the menu on the bottom just barely over the feature... nothing has helped that so far....
Can't show this to my client until I get it to look more like the site that she loved...
#.inline-nav.main_nav, #inline-nav.main_nav {
position: relative;
bottom: -20;
left: 0;
}
.inline-nav.main_nav, "position:relative" and the position it with "top" and "left".
#branding {margin-bottom: -80px;}
#primary-nav {margin-top: -80px;}

Have you tried the code I provided? On my browser it overlaps the slider with about 10px. With the CSS code in place it should put the menu right down to the slider.
The dynamic width of the framework will cause some unwanted effects with a narrow browser window though.

Hi Jackey,
not quite - the jpg is cut to where the bottom of the large 'N' is so a transparent gif or png wouldn't change anything - am playing with the numbers - but now nothing is on the bottom against the content - tho the menu did move down!
#brandnav .mainlogo-link, #brandnav .brandnav-img {
float: right;
margin-top: 50px;
margin-bottom: 0px;
}
#brandnav .brandnav-nav {
margin-top: 150px;
float: left;
margin-bottom: 0px;
}

nevermind thanks to you I got it! using the content padding 0px as well - now i just have to change the logo to a png before i show it off!
Thank you soooo much!!
switched to branding because the nav bar is where it belongs to start with.
#branding .mainlogo-link, #branding .mainlogo-img {
float:right;
padding-bottom: 0px;
margin-bottom: -50px; }
#brandnav .mainlogo-link, #brandnav .brandnav-img {
float:right; }
#brandnav .mainlogo-link, #brandnav .brandnav-img {
padding-bottom: 0px; }
}

yes - but when i used your code and went back to brandnav - the logo didn't stay right - so i went back to using my code above for branding and will change the logo to a png... one more issue - will start a new topic.
could not have done this w/o your code thank you!