That wasn’t good: What we learned in the Riders pre-season loss to Calgary

“Yeah, Moe, that team sure did suck last night. They just plain sucked. I’ve seen teams suck before but they were the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked.”

Ok, quoting Homer Simpson is a little extreme but it’s still somewhat fitting as the Riders looked pretty bad in a blowout pre-season loss to the Calgary Stampeders at Mosaic Stadium.

Insert the usual, “it’s just the pre-season, so there’s no need to panic just yet,” here and now we can get into the meat of this piece and what we learned this week.

If it’s an open competition…

Riders head coach Chris Jones has remained steadfast in saying that the race to his team’s starting quarterback is very much on. If true, this game was likely going to go along way in determining who would win that job with Zach Collaros and Brandon Bridge both expected to see playing time.

Well, the so-called competition must be going into overtime as neither guy looked particularly good (and they had no protection, but we’ll get into that later) and that should be of some concern to Rider Nation. Neither guy even produced one drive that made you feel a little better about their play. Combined, Collaros and Bridge completed just eight passes for 62 yards. That’s less than ideal.

If this is truly an open competition in the truest sense, then I look forward to David Watford starting next week against the Argos.

Ok, maybe not.

Protection, or lack thereof

A big reason the Riders pivots looked as poor as they did was the big men up front.

There’s been a lot of discussion about the Riders offensive line, most notably their lack of depth. The starting five guys have potential to be a decent unit but if what we saw on Friday night is any indication, any injury is going to be bad news for this team.

Collaros and Bridge were under siege most of the night and that should be noted when looking at their numbers and performance.

Safe to assume that Emmanuel Adusei won’t be on the roster much longer.

We’ll see if playing with the starters longer and the addition of Spencer Moore can make a difference when the games start to matter.

Discipline

This was an issue in the Riders first pre-season game and it was again against Calgary. In total, the Riders were flagged 10 times for 139 yards, most of those yards coming on defence.

A few penalties stand out, including a couple by Duron Carter, that led directly to touchdowns.

If the Riders are going to give themselves a chance, this can’t continue. Jones tried up-downs after the first game, wonder what his approach will be this week?

Random thoughts that don’t deserve a section

– We know that Josh Bartel is ready for the season. Could easily vote him for #POG. Bartel had eight punts with a 42.6 yard average.

– Naaman Roosevelt is still Naaman Roosevelt. That’s good. Can he stay healthy?

– Derrick Moncrief made his presence felt early at the SAM linebacker spot making what seemed like a bunch of plays in a row in the first quarter.

– With the starters that were dressed playing, the defence looked like it could be the bedrock for this team once again. It got out of hand when third stringers were in.

161 Comments on That wasn’t good: What we learned in the Riders pre-season loss to Calgary

when saskatchewan PREDICTABLY lost to the eskimos the EXCUSE made was that the expanded roster RAISES the cost of flying everyone there so only a SUBSET of saskatchewans talent was on hand. but now we see that even at the VAUNTED new mosaic stadium they cant compete with the QUALITY teams of the famed WEST division! the bizarre COMPLEX riderhole has about their stadium can be triggered by merely suggesting that their RIVALS home can be a few db louder or that the PLUMBING could be improved upon so this HOME LOSS certainly wont sit well with them!

its ALSO relevant to note that the hapless riders were outscored in EVERY quarter so there is no MERIT to the perennial preseason claim that the opponent left their STARTERS in longer to gain advantage. the men on whom riderhole will DEPEND for play at the qb position utterly FAILED to put up points despite playing almost the ENTIRE first three quarters between them! the BEST collaros could do was to put crapigna on the 43 yard line for a field goal and bridge came away TOTALLY empty handed!

thats hardly enough to power such a SUPPOSEDLY fearsome offence but there is unfortunately no COMFORT to be had further down the depth chart EITHER! watfords touchdown came when his team was 29 points DOWN and would have been GARBAGE time even in the regular season. MOREOVER he offset it with an end zone INTERCEPTION to go along with the pair of picks thrown by daniels. the flip side handing someone like jones the KEYS to the kingdom is that as both coach and gm he TOTALLY owns this failure!

Chris Jones is now in “panic management”. He better strengthen that o-line before Zach Collaros sustains a career ending injury. From what I listened to on the Radio, you Rider fans are in for a very long season if the offensive line is not addressed quickly. Riders have repeated the mistake the Ticats made last year and that is spending too much money on a few chosen players which limits options with respect to other talent. Would not be the least bit surprised to see Collaros moved and potentially to Montreal.

collaros may ALREADY have sustained such an injury on the hit from orimolade. he didnt appear BADLY hurt and stayed on the sidelines but if its enough to give ANYONE else even a few weeks to ESTABLISH themselves as the starter he could NEVER regain that job. he hasnt shown much in the way of RESILIENCE coming back from his previous injury and is on track to be a perennial BACKUP like drew tate.

Agreed , YIKES that sounded like a mess tonight in Mosaic, most concerning was as in camp Zac, seems to be holding the ball forever, realy hope he has not lost his confidence ** but upside Area 51 can come off his Zac is a god rant now. I think bridge will be fine, as he a better athlete then Zac and not gun shy. Depth is guess is going to be the big concern re oline , maybe we catch a break and Shepley, gets a bad case of nerves, has a bad camp in New York. Plus the mistakes on ‘d’ seemed to be made by rookies, to many bad penalties as well, sounded like a few bad calls as well, but lets see what happens next week. If they look bad then its perhaps time t worry abit. Bit pissed Bit pissed BB didn’t get more game time but it was only exhibition, so a loss isn’t world ending. but the haters are enjoying this moment of nothingness!! ,

Bridge played 7 minutes. When he came in they took all the starting receivers out except Holley and replaced some of the starting o-lineman. Listening on the radio Bridges first throw was high, which was clearly on him. The second throw to Mason was a short one and the Radio guys said that’s just two guys who haven’t played together and not on the same page, and the third the receiver ran an in and he was suppose to run an out.

I am a huge fan, i loved seeing bridge in action last year and i was excited as all hell about Zach. Here’s what I saw: Zach looked awful and Bridge was equally bad. If third string Watford can score with the lime he was playing with then so should they. Bridge missed a 5 yard dump on 2nd and 28 with Tre Mason WIDE OPEN. 2nd and 28 due to bridge scrambling like a high school QB. Later Tre busted through for 14 yards in a congested field so what might he have done if that 5 yard easy toss would
Have been within 5 feet of his hands?

I’m an eternal optimist usually and I’m not calling for any changes or crying the sky is falling but LL tell
You what. We looked terrible. (Except Moncrief)

“Nothing game”. Kind of like that one game the Riders won against an already-clinched Stamps team last year? You guys seemed to enjoy that win a whole bunch. Heck, you might even get your chance again come Oct 20.

1)-Meet the new season; same as the old season
Calgary looked amazing as always, riders all steak no sizzle as always

2)-Hey riders, hows your QB situation?
Jones said half Collaros half Bridge this game, by second quarter he realized both participants in this race for the starters job tripped out of the starting gate. Zack was awful, should have had 5 picks in 1 quarter, and he may be hurt. How predictable

Note to fellows like ya! you dont have to like the Riders, however if a tam like the riders loose their fan base, you wont have to worry about any CFL team for long as the CFL will not EXIST!!! Same as for Edmonton or Winnipeg losing their fan bases!!! So hate away jacksnot!!! But remember bad Karma brings BAD things !!!!!, to ones door step.

I really hope so. CJ has a lot to prove in the first quarter of the season. A bad start is unnaceptable if you ask me. He is making way too much money for this team to be average. If He can’t do it, find someone who can… and if his pet projects keep taking stupid penalties that lead directly to points for the opposition, send them on their way. I don’t claim to have a good football mind by any standards, but by year 3 something good has to happen

Ehh they were 1 play away from the GC last year, Jones didn’t pooh the bed tonight some of his players did!! again they can look good in camp all month , but when the lights came on tonight it was the players that made bone headed plays. Jones cant known that till he sees them in a LIVE pro game.

Philski, you sound concerned. U worried the Cats made a bad choice on a certain trade? The way u scream “bloody murder” on another team’s story makes one wonder ur motive? Insecure? Scared? Vengeful? Seems to me that if u perceive an opposing team is making poor decisions that u should be gleeful, but u are sad and angry. I hope u get it all figured out.

Brutal. Simply got rocked by the Stamps. Don’t care if its preseason. O-Line is a mess, D is a mess, DC better smarten up, or get gone. His sense of entitlement is really pissing me off. No excuses Calgary came in and embarrassed us. Its gonna be a long season if Chris Jones doesn’t get it figured out. Ill be screaming for his head if we start 0-3.

Agreed re Duron, perhaps its time that Duron gets his head on straight , but that just might be a case of the real season starting. BTW, Zac Collaros is a tiny fellow, was Amazed how small he is maybe 5′ 9’ish if lucky certainly now where close to the 6’0′ thye have him listed in , to old time Rider fans , he is shorter and less thick then Lancaster was. , not much bigger then Owen’s, just cant get it out of my head that perhaps he is truly just playing scared!!!

Duron has been in the league long enough and had enough chances to “get his head on straight”… If his play on the field isn’t stellar, and doesn’t outweigh his behavior and legal issues, why keep him? I know it might’ve been a bad game and I am venting a little, but look at Roosevelt. He’s a better receiver to begin with without the drama.

Sadly the other QB’s didn’t play with that same fear as Zac, at 400K a year sadly Zac if not figuring out how to play with or with out fear , HAS to be gone!!! ( aka your comments on Duron). Look at Watford, rookie guy, played fearless with the same porous oline put up over 125 passing / collaros 25 yrds. Watfird is making 1.50 in hange not $ 400k.

34 – Yup, Duron took a stupid penalty that led directly to a TD – not acceptable That said, the entire team owns the loss. Many unacceptable penalties, broken coverage, porous second team O Line….the list goes on.

Bridge didn’t take his second reps because Jones didn’t want to hang his ass out to dry after Collaros was almost broken in half.

Team played like sh*t, bottom line. Yes…they were still evaluating, but so was Calgary, and all of their players came to play. For some it’s a blessing that they were at home, so they can get an early start on packing. Let the trolls hang their hat on a pre season beat down.

Friday we play the Grey Cup Champions. Better close the door on this Soup Sandwich and figure it out !!

Agreed Yup, great job putting the focus back on reality , 18 games is along season so everything will work its way out. Great we as fans care enough to rant abit when the team plays poorly. I am confident Jones will still gt the guys to cook at good soup by season end , lol or he might become the main ingredient, lol .

Apparently the call on Duron was a bad call. I think the importance of Duron playing DB is so he’s ready to play as an injury fill in if need be. That would mean that we wouldn’t have to dress an extra DB as a DI, and we could perhaps dress an extra LB instead.

Grey Cup goat and favorite off season punching bag, Kamar Jorden, toyed with that secondary tonight.
After 2 preseason games the riders have showed next to nothing,
How can anyone consider Jones off season, training camp and preseason, anything but a failure and waste ?
This is year 3 and this team has no consistency.
FYI -Carter took a very selfish penalty in the first quarter.

The Riders starting 5 on the o-line is fine, the problem is there doesn’t appear to be any depth. Labatte is a very good canadian o-lineman, but he has trouble staying healthy. Getting rid of a vet like Dyakowski might have been a mistake.

I don’t think Jones considers Bladek and JSJ as starting caliber – which is why we are probably starting Bond at Guard regardless of the health status of Bladek/JSJ. Shepley may be good but he is a fart in the wind at this point.
Look for Jones and co. to go poaching off practice rosters again in the hopes they find something to replace Adusei as a backup never mind a starter. Adusei was getting beat on straight rushes, not even stunts.
It is pathetic to think our only starting CDN O linemen are Taman finds. SMH.

Look THIS is ON Collaros !!!! Sorry I am sick already of folks making excuses for Zac, it is possible to loose your confidence and be done. ZAC did 0, with a good starting online inn the first quarter, he held the ball to long , missed open guys etc, ZAC played poorly with the 1’s , then EVEN worse with the 1’s only having Anduse as the change to start the 2nd half. Iwa sot at the game , but I saw enough of ZAC at to post here I was a bit concerned. I realy hope it amounts to Calgary having a great game, Zac having a bad one , and next week will be better.

I wished I could have seen the game. I heard a lot of knockdowns on the radio on ZC’s throws. Couldn’t tell on the radio if he was accurate or not. I’m not ready to write Collaros off after a quarter and a half.

I just don’t understand why Collaros didn’t play in game one. He needed to build some chemistry with his guys. I think Jones’ biggest mistake is he puts too much emphasis on practice. You can not replicate game day situations in practice for a QB.

There was never an open competition for the starting QB, so he should have just set up the pre-season to get Collaros ready.

Its pre-season the score doesn’t matter Jack. That being said the QB situation did not look good. In fact it sucked. Collaros had good protection from the starting O Line and still sucked. Either he as a lot of rust that needs to be knocked off or 2015 was a large anomaly.
Jones was super ticked at the Oline in the second half with the so called backups in. Emmanual Adusei was singled out by Jones but there isn’t a safer Job in Canada than a Cdn OL in Saskatchewan. We are only starting 2 Cdn OLinemen and we are ok if no one ever gets hurt (not going to happen). We have Bladek (currently nicked) but he is a drop off from the starters. In the last 3 years of drafting there is not one starting OL on the entire team – I’m not sure where you get Offensive Linemen from if not from the Cdn draft…..maybe Jones knows another source like converting DL – but that hasn’t worked out for Adusei. Jones Arrogance and refusal to back down and learn is his biggest weakness.
Rant over. More of the same, not learning from mistakes.

I put this poor showing on Jones as a coach. He had lots of time to fix the holes for the first preseason game. Obviously he is not watching his players as a team. Constantly changing the players around and getting rid of good players. Everyone could see the O line was a big concern and what Jones goes out looking for RB’s.

Jones way of getting a team ready is getting the players to plays as single players and not to play as a team and ready them as a team.

1) FIX THE O LINE
2) GET RID OF THE COMPITING AS INDIVIDUALS
3) WORK AS A TEAM BOTH IN GAME AND PRACTICE
4) A GOOD COACH KNOWS HIS TEAM IS READY
5) DON’T OVER TRAIN YOUR TEAM
Just my take on a team with good prospects and talent now go out and make a good team.

Absolute display of futility.
1) Collaros was 3 steps throw. He looked like a deer in headlights.
2) Playcalling. Why can the Riders not go deep. Having 6 receivers run 7 yard crosses is not any offense. It’s a suicide mission. Make the receivers stretch the de and use a running back
3) no pressure. Their qb has al day to throw.
4) the Rider db’s consistently let guys behind them. No safety help at all
5) Special teams. Our coverage was horrible. Always getting wedged. No blocking on returns.
6) o-line is a colander. They couldn’t hold a block and can’t get downfield.

There good thing is that when you play this bad you can only play better. But the Riders need to start to execute and make plays, break and skip tackles. And for the love of god do not let your guy behind you

Calgary allowed Carm Carteri to do something the riders denied him, broadcast a game at the new stadium.
He said Zack’s arm was terrible, and he was under throwing by 10-15 yards sometimes. That’s not good. When you are 30, and are not immediately recovering from an arm or shoulder injury, you probably never regain it.
Thats alot of money gone before the regular season starts.

I listened to Carm and the Stamps broadcast in the first half and the Rod and the Luc in the second half. If you think Carm is barely coherent you are off your rockers. He breaks down a game so well. You actually feel like you know what is going on without being there. I found the stamps play by play guy annoying.

Carm is like an old friend. I’ve never met the guy and really know nothing about him, but I was glad he got the opportunity to call a game at Mosaic. He thanked the stamps in the broadcast for the opportunity to call a game at Mosaic and that they helped him fulfill something he really wanted to do, which was call a game at Mosaic. He did a great job doing it as well.

meh Yup, let the little fella have his ranting now as well as the other haters,once the regular season starts they might get only 4 or 5 chances to Hate on Jones and the Rider team after regular season losses. last i looked everyone is still tied for first and worst in the west. Hopefully TSN/and these 3dn nation douches put the riders at 8th or 9th again in the preseason rankings , I loved watching them power up the rankings last year to end in the top 3or4. maybe a 9th place power ranking is what the boys and Zac need , to light a bit more fire under their butts. ,

Guaranteed contract for Collaros?? Riders might regret doing a deal like by years end. Rust definitely there for both Bridge and Collaros. Hopefully it will be gone within the first few games of the new 2018 season.

So, interesting game. It’s too bad 3DN doesn’t have a real, knowledgeable, football analyst writing for the Riders. I still think it’s important to keep publishing the articles from the propaganda team, so people can see this for themselves, but it would be nice to have some real football analysis as well. More Rider articles more clicks!

I’m not worried about the defence. We shut down BLM pretty well, and I believe he was mostly with the 1s, and neither Hughes nor Jefferson played, so I think we’ll be ok there. The BIG questions raised by this game are on the OL, but without some knowledgeable analysis we don’t really know what the key questions are. Jones said in his post game interview that he didn’t play Bridge in the second half because the OL was playing so badly he didn’t want to get him hurt. Given that this was the second pre-season game that’s a huge statement. So what happened? From the radio it sounded like Adusei was having major breakdowns that almost got Collaros killed. This brings up a number of questions. If the only problem was Adusei why didn’t we just put Labatt back in? Is he nicked-up too, or was the problem really Adusei and Clark? After losing Zver and Meredith early in camp we were also without Bladek, JSJ, AND Houghton in this game, so how long are they out for? I assume that if we thought we were short handed even in the medium term we would have put a call in to Dyakowski already, but maybe that changes after this game? Back to Adusei, he’s a converted DT so still very new at the position. Did he just come up against a player who was doing something he hadn’t seen before, but who he can learn to stop, or is he just not good enough? We’ll probably learn the answer to that question when the final cuts are announced. How badly injured is Coleman? If our import starters are going down now them were really screwed. We have good Canadian depth so we only really need to start one Canadian OL, but two would be preferable and three would be ideal. It’ll be interesting to see who’s healthy enough to play next week.

Good post RDF!! Supposedly guys like Dan Girioux/Corey Watman are also without jobs , so they might also be band aides till the other guys heal. Plus other teams cuts and practice roster guys will be floating around for abit. Not ideal , but never know what becomes available , lol hey if Can Cartari then now one of the WORST broadcasters available can get a cameo anything is possible.

Thanks! We’ll learn a lot more after the final cuts are announced. There are options, and Jones is good at finding players in many different ways, but the cuts will give us a much better idea of which way he’s going to go.

Sun always shines up your a**. Yes, Bo was kept in check for most of his time on the field. That td was a gift after Duron took a 15 yd penalty to keep a drive alive instead of kicking. And that was without Hughes or Jefferson playing.

What’s with Jones insatiable appetite to put players in a position where they do not belong? He puts a receiver at DT, a DT at OL, another receiver at DB. If you need an OL, get an OL. Simple as that. In a move to prove his great competence, he’s likely take screwhead Carter and make him head coach.

Excellent assessment. That was pretty much everything i was thinking. First team defense even without Jefferson and Hughes kept Bo in check, aside from stupid penalties. A team cant win taking 100 yds in penalties in the first 1/2 of a game against a good team. The O-line has to be a lot better if we dont want collaros or bridge dead. When Collaros was hurt and they didnt put bridge back in, i figured jones didnt want to risk getting bridge hurt too, given how poorly the O-line was playing.

Hey Jones, send some of these Rider clowns down to Cowtown to pick up their cuts tomorrow. If there is room left on the bus, maybe swing by Edmonton. Let’s be honest, it’s the best you can do; it’s the best you will do.

Oh, yoo-hoo, Mr. Area51…where are you? I can’t go to sleep tonite without reading your “expert” comments on how the Great Collaros fared tonite…or excuses. Seems to me there may be a little more “Nastrodamus” in me than you…hmm? Oh, and Mr. RobE, I did “watch” the game tonite. It sure looked like vintage Collaros to me. Which is why he is no longer in black and gold. Enough said.

At what point does Chris Jones realize the OLine is important and quit stovkpiling washed out NFL RBs and his asinine little “plug-n-play” experiments with Duron Carter at CB and a collection of receivers and basketball players at DE?

Getting his starting QB nearly killed in the preseason isn’t exactly inspiring much confidence in the personnel decisions again this year.

LOL…that’s good my friend! Yeah, well my heritage is part Russian so that can easily be me -about 30 years ago. 🙂 Thanks for that! On another note, Jennings looked pretty good for your Lions last night. Even Wally knows that the best trade is the one sometimes you never make. No doubt JJ will have a bounce back year…too much talent not to.

Dude , Collaros had a whole 1st quarter with a good online from of him and played poorly, he has not lit up TC either , missing ALOT of his deep balls when receivers were wide open, and lead all qb’s not named Marquise Wiliams in interceptions thrown. Zac simply needs to b better, as he did have some nice flash early in camp!!! Personally I feel the inconsistency is in Zac’s knoggin get scared when opposition D starts to get a it of pressure and it goes downhill from there. Maybe all Zac needs is a great game to restore his confidence and it will be a steady rise from that point. Football is a game of momentum, last night was an excellent example of that and we got crushed. ,

I was being generous to Cam when I said that in his last years he was barely coherent. The fact is that he was often NOT coherent. He stumbled much more often and seemed confused, and said things that really didn’t make any sense. I’m guessing that he’s in the early stages of Alzheimer’s. He was a LB back in the days when they didn’t know much about concussions, remember, and then he was a colour commentator for almost 30 years. It was long, LOOOONG, past time to move on from Carm. Good guy personally though.

How could you listen to Carm, and then to Luc and objectively make those comments. Luc understands the game really well, but it comes at you really quickly when you’re speaking to every play. He seems to lose his train of thought and stumble at times. Luc will get better as time goes on, but Carm was a natural. He sees the game well and is a very good speaker.

I think you’re right in your comments about Luc, but you seem to have forgotten how bad Carm was at the end. I’m glad he had a good day yesterday but he needed to go as our colour guy. He’s an old guy now don’t forget. He must be in his 60s.

That was never what I heard from Carm (the name is Carm, not Cam). He knows the game very well and never sugar coated the Rider’s performance. He did give credit where it was due but made no excuses for bad plays or for bad calls from the coaches. I, for one, miss him.
Luke is the one that stumbles over his words and thoughts sometimes. For example, last night, after a player went out of bounds, Luke said that where the ball was placed was almost a bad spot. What? Either it was a bad spot or it wasn’t. How can it be almost a bad spot. He actually repeated the same comment.

I think the most serious issue, and I’m neither a Riders or Stamps fan, concerns the Riders going into a pre-season game that flat. If everyone on the field isn’t going b*lls-to-the-wall on every play, with jobs on the line, leadership has to be an issue, and I’m not talking on-field leadership, I’m talking coaching leadership. Having watched Zac in Hamilton after his injury, he was holding on to the ball too long, or had “Happy Feet,” which leads to back-foot throws, or not striding into the throw. I bet if you had a helmet cam pointed backward, his eyes are bouncing like ping-pong balls! Some players never make it back after serious injury, and with Zac’s tendency to be hard on himself, his confidence is shot. He needed to go to a team with a “Quarterback Whisperer.” That’s the only way he gets straightened out.

Alright enough already it was a pre season game. This happens in pre season games. Yes there are question marks but I am sure Jones will make necessary changes over the next few weeks. RIght now many of you are running for the life boats and the Titanic has not hit the iceberg yet! I am not even a rider fan but I can see things will change very soon. Again wait see what happens when the team plays for points. I am a Stamp fan and I do not see any reason to panic yet.

People can blame the O-line forever if they want but the truth of the matter lies in 2016 after his return from a torn acl ,he was picked up and slammed on his head he missed a few games because of concussion like symptoms when he returned he was never the same ,he is scared his confidence is shot and i think he had a very talented team in 15 to carry him when he was successful i dont think he was as good as we thought

one comment to you and one comment only, ya little chicken farmer ya !!! Its a preseason game, apart form 1 throw BOMEVI did diddly squat like Zac did. AS pointed out that was without our starting D ends etc, and D playing vanilla— so great our oline played well against our backup line and future cuts—- grate your scub qb’s took advantage of that as they have families to feed as well. DO count your pre season hacthlings all ya want !!! ya arrogent wanna be chicken farmer , but dont count oyur chickens before they hatch re regular season or ya might come up with egg on oyur face in sades!!! and be standing there CHICK LESS like ya probably do in real life !!! ya intolerable sot ya !!!

Too funny that Alberta “ fans” have to troll on this website. Just cause there is no traffic in Alberta. Jealous of the green and white. Thanks for the endorsements guys.
Must be tough to cheer for Alberta.

Seems like Rider fans have the same love for former Rider radio announcers that they have for former coaches and players. I’m sure Vanstone, Pedersen, and Luc are looking forward to a future where they will be unceremoniously excommunicated from Riderville the minute they decide to retire. Classic classy Rider fans.

Hey Duron Carter… YEA I calling you out. Are you already planning NOT to show up at you (unlikely) CFL HOF induction just like your small minded father!! GROW UP!! Your child-like penalties are a statement. YOU can’t play football on a TEAM. At least you can look forward to your staring role in the Legends Football League.

Oh look at that a Rider article with 150 comments and only about 10 of them have anything to do with football or the game lol.

It is incredibly hard to sift through these some days to get to the people actually here to talk football and have respectful debate. We all know rivalries and passion runs deep in the CFL but we can learn to make friendly jabs at each other’s teams, not this how low can you go contest sometimes.

Not trying to “police” the site, I just get tired of all the side crap as much as everyone else I’m sure.