thats like saying this "turd" smells better than that "turd". Both of those CODS sucked so did MW2 (the 1st bastardizing of the franchise) Blops1 was "Ok" at best still mediocre...COD4 was the best then greed took its tole...who gets shafted? the fans.

Then go play COD4 if you don't like change. I accept change just wish it wasn't every year but I adapt and change with each new game. Hasn't let me down yet. Yes there are things I don't like for legitimate reasons. Most people just hate on things no good reasons at all.

The game is okay when you're not on the bad side of lag. I don't find this game as exciting as MW3 though. I played MW3 and throughout its lifespan, I didn't encounter lag on 98% of the time. BO2 is a different beast. I was on the bad side of lag for a few weeks and it magically disappeared. I still encounter it every now and then but I rarely lag nowadays. The game is fun but it's not as fun as previous CODs.

I think it is that people just dwell on the minor negatives and don't dwell on the major positives. I have yet heard someone say they want Dead Man's Hand back or Last Stand. To me they obviously listen to the community on the right things but still try to have some originality with there games thus the 2025 setting.

Map design is good. Spawns are good except in CTF, still. Weapons are more balanced than in previous games. Hit detection comes from the lag. Played a LAN tournament 2 weeks ago and the game was perfect, CTF still sucks but other than that it was awesome. Cannot wait until the MLG season starts so I can start scrimming and practicing strategies.

I tend to be more forgiving and I tried to overlook the maps, spawns, the radio silence, and other stuff you mentioned. The more you nitpick on the game, the more frustrated you will get. I am trying to enjoy the game now that my lag problems has cleared. I know things could have been better but there is not much you and I can do.

I am 10th Prestige and after 7 or so days I have a subtle mindset on what needs to be fixed and what doesn't. Most problems that people have with this game can be fixed through a couple of steps but it is the fact that people don't change the way they think or what they do and get mad at the game because they don't want to put the fault on themselves. The only thing that is somewhat legitly complainable is lag comp but after a while you should get used to or adjust to changes.

And exactly how, praytell, does one 'adjust' or 'get used' to being consistently .5 - 1 second behind?

I've tried to adjust my playstyle.

I've tried different weapons, perks, attachments.

I've tried different game modes.

I'm old and my glory days of fragging everyone in FPS games has long since passed.

I'm okay with that, I can adapt (and have been able to so with success in other games for quite some time).

But short of strapping on a belt full of betties, picking up a sniper rifle and camping out (not my idea of fun), how exactly am I supposed to adapt to game that penalizes me for having a fast connection (which is neccesary for my job) - downgrade to crappy DSL?

Being behind is no joke, dude. I've been there and there wasn't much you can do. You're dying to what seems like 1 bullet yet he unloaded a clip on you. No adjustment of playstyle will work and you can't even trust what you see on your screen since they're not where your screens shows you.

I've been there and my KD dropped. The game is now playing smooth and I did nothing on my side. That means the problem is not with me but with the game. My playstyle when I was lagging is still the same playstyle that I'm using right now. My KD would have been a lot higher if I didn't lagged for a few weeks. My KD will hit 2 and even higher if I continue to play like this.

I have been in many lobbies where I have gotten insta-kill the whole game but it happens less then 5% of my games. But it is the fact that they blow it out of proportion, it seems like it happens 95% of the time for them when infact it is less than 10%. It is like everything else that people complain about, they blow it out of proportion to make it seem like it is always happening and they cannot do anything about it.

If it was 5% for you it was like 90% for me back then. It was that bad and getting a kill was a grind. The lag was happening game after game and I was at my wits end. I was mad at the game and 3Arch back then but it all magically disappeared one day. I am not exaggerating here and now that I'm no longer on the bad side of the lag, the game is now enjoyable.

I don't have regular gameplay videos of me when I was lagging as my gameplays are not spectacular. I was barely breaking even back then. I do have a video of what was the worst lag I experienced. It was right after the patch and this video was not from theatre but from my PVR.

Me and the rest of the lobby were red barring randomly but the problem disappeared the next day and it's been smooth ever since.

My games are now somewhat okay nowadays but I do feel that I still lag like on this kill confirmed vid. I feel like I'm dropping dead a little too fast on this video below.

Lag, lag comp, or whatever it is, I just try and adapt to it. It's not as bad as back then and it's a lot more tolerable now and I can now go positive game after game. It was a grind back then but the game plays okay for me now. I can say I am now enjoying the game but like I said, I just hope it won't go back to how it was or I'll go crazy once again. lol

Oh, and I picked up the phone @ 0:10 on the kill confirmed vid. I got distracted.

I think it is the fact that you were so used to being so much faster than everyone else that now that you are on level playing field you are just getting out-played.

Considering I only recently upgraded from my old DSL about a year ago (the same DSL I had few issues with playing the first black ops as well as battlefield) I don't think your first inference has any merit.

As far as getting outplayed, well, yeah ... I'm old (or did you miss that part?), but like I said previously I can adjust for that.

It's okay man; you pretty much tipped your hat when you mentioned your anticipation of MLG season coming up.

I think you can now safely remove your lips from vonderhaar's posterior.

I don't mind the crazy spawns, as long as i shoot and kill the guy who just spawned 2 feet infront of me.

I don't mind being spawn trapped as long as I can shoot my way out.

I don't mind the hip firing spray and prey players or the camping snipers at the back of the map. I had to deal with them in Cod4 and MW2 and they were never a problem because I had just as good a chance at killing them with my AR as they did with their weapon of choice....

but the lag comp really has taken that one key thing away from me. I can't shoot my way out of anything..

There is no getting use to being half a second behind everyone. At best I get a few kills shooting people in the back, but even then I have shot people in the back (as in put nearly a clip into them) only for them to spin round and I just drop dead.

I have a 20 meg connection at home, nothing amazing, but it works with other games just fine. I also have fiberoptic at my girlfriends house and play on both and there is not that much difference with how bad the game is. I have done all the port forwarding etc etc.. makes no difference.

I know all online games have lag issues etc, but you only need to play cod4 and mw2 to feel the difference.

if we brush it aside and just get use to it and say nothing, how are the devs going to improve and fix the issue?

I want to love this game, but it's the one thing killing it for me. I don't think just getting use to it is the answer.

There is no getting used to or adjusting to playing with a 1 to 2 second delay. I mean other than just laying there and taking it there is nothing and i mean nothing you can do to compinsate that besides either going out and getting a second internet line with the slowest possible connection. You said somewhere that you feel behind in 5% of games... well i feel normal which probably means im ahead of the enemy about 5% of the time. Just seriously flip the role and try to imagine it? 19 every 20 you are being insta killed. 19 out of every 20 games when you see yourself getting first shot, but actually he already killed you... It gets old real fast

I am just going to respectfully disagree with you and leave it at that. You can't have a logical argument and thus it is not worth my time to try and talk about this. Your mind is made up and you had COD. Please move on to other forums for games you actually like.