I find it much easier to simply have rifle ammo in 50cal/SAW cans and handgun ammo in the smaller 30cal cans. That way, other than label, I know which cans to go for. I also dispense with all wood and cardboard as it draws moisture and takes up space, as well as being a fire hazard.

I've shuffled both crated and uncrated and the uncrated is much easier to move and store. I do not want useless wood taking up space in storage areas and my vehicles if I have to bug out.Bob Katt

You could use a standard GI buttpack as well. Each one holds a typical combat load for each weapon we plan to take with us (308, 5.56, 45, 9mm) They are small enough to fit in a plastic dry box from Academy Sports for storage purposes.

If we lose one, we still have some fodder for each rifle and pistol.

Bulk ammo is stored in similar cans.

That way I can take what I have time to pack. Leave in a hurry? Take the "go bags". Time to load up? Take it all- well up to the truck's load capacity. LOL

I place bulk items intended for reloading, servicing reloading equipment, or future reallocation in 50cal cans. They are not currently intended for uses other than scheduled projects. I don't plan on moving them soon, which is good, because they are loaded up HEAVY.

All ammunition intended for practice, caching or charity is in 30cal cans for easy moving. I find it easier to lug one in each hand than moving a crate. (Tried it).

Moving in tight spaces where I'm twisting and turning, deciding to drop one and keep the other, passing up into a truck, shoving under a furniture fixture, placing into a tight spot in the ground, lifting overhead into a locker, tossing over the side of a truck bed... all these things are easier done with the smaller can and a handle on top. Breaking up ammo into smaller lots, on the fly and under pressure is easier, too. Just pass the can, please, and have a wonderful day.

I very much appreciate the 30cal cans, and have been able to find quite a few excellent specimens this last year, at good prices.

Bob Katt sez: "I've shuffled both crated and uncrated and the uncrated is much easier to move and store. I do not want useless wood taking up space in storage areas and my vehicles if I have to bug out."

Two hands x one M19A1 can each = two M19A1 cans per trip.

Two hands x one ComBloc crate each = four M19A1 cans per trip.

The crates stack far better than the cans alone.

I too have packed, stored and moved hundreds of thousands of rounds of ammo in my time, and crates make it far easier.

Average at the gun show in Birmingham this past weekend was $7-8 each."

That's a good price, at least around these parts. The average can was going for $10 - $12, and they included such prime features as painted over rust, rusty seams, bent and damages lids... and just plain ole wear and tear.

The examples I found and snatched up had no dents, no rust, original paint, pliable seals and that good old smell of an airtight unit.

It's better to have a good one right off the bat than to try and recondition one. If you can get it locally for under $10 (shipping on them can suck), DO IT. The uses are many.

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