I really enjoyed the previous movie, but this looks appalling. Hanging from a chandelier & spinning? WTF It's the Punisher! He doesn't need to do stuff like that. He just shoots you in the head! & what's with all the neon? Looks like outtakes from Batman & Robin...

'Sometimes I'd like to get my hands on God'

Oh, & the reason Tom Jane isn't returning is that he read the script, said 'This is shit' & when the producers refused to change it, he walked. Smart man!

Finally! A Punisher that looks the part! Lundgren was jus too oafish, Tom Jane looked like he exfoliated before he killed. And he sulked far too much, emo bastard. Stevenson looks unkempt and unhinged, like the classic 80's Romita-era Punisher we all loved. Like a man who lost his family and has nothing left to lose. The chanderlier thing is a bit naff and that killing god line...yeesh... but my hopes have just been raised that little bit.

The Punisher never really did it for me as a character so i'm not too fussed. But I will say that it looks better than the previous one, a movie that I thought wasn't as good as the Dolph Lundgren one. Now that's saying a lot. I'll wait till DVD for this one!

I just don't see why they'd try to start this a third time? They could have put more life into the movie without ditchung Thomas Jane, who was very good in the 2nd Punisher Movie. That trailer is awful , and has poor old (dodgy acent) Ray making Dolph Lundgren's performance in the 1st Punisher look DeNiroesque!

oh dear, oh dear. Marvel remove your logo from this before it taints the goodwill built up in iron Man and Inredible Hulk.

We're getting to a stage where people will see the MARVEL STUDIOS logo and go see the film, things like this could kill that.

This isn't a Marvel studios film. It's one of the licenses sold by Marvel ages ago like Spiderman to Sony and X-men to Fox. So this isn't going to be a part of the Avengers universe that Marvel are currently creating. Frank Castle isn't going to meet up with Bruce Banner or Tony Stark or anything like that.

As if the trailer wasn't enough of an indicator of it's quality. It's also been relagated to a December release. The last time that was done with a marvel film was Blade Trinity

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Actually, Tom Jane was far to small a guy in hight ad stature to be the Punisher.

So. Not "end of".

Jane's Punisher was too bland, I thought. He acted like a drunk cowboy. I mean, what the hell was with the twitchy-fingered shoot out in the lobby? Frank Castle would just walk outta there not breaking his stride and just disintergrate the two grunts with a M16 or something as undramatic and to the point as that.

The drinking and moping about didn't was with me. Castle was always cool, calm and collected and went through his "punishments" with surgical efficiency. He was always shown to be a cold bastard, dead on the inside and stone cold on the outside. Not sitting about feeling sorry for himself.

Think of Dirty Harry Callahan meets Maximus from Gladiator. Stevenson should be ace. The cossy is very much as Garth Ennis has him wearing from time to time in the books.

Having said that though. Neon. Blurgh. Spinning from the lighting. Sigh.

I don't care if people don't like me for it but i loved every film based on the punuisher and im loving the trailer for this one.

Ray stevenson was weird choice cos i didn't know who he is, but this fron the director of green street it had character and strong violence and this could be as good if not better im hoping the latter.

looks good enough to me. i can understand the cheese to it but its only a minute of the movie. Ray stevenson is a top quality actor and looks more like the punisher than thomas jane ever did.. hope its really good with the awesome supporting cast and more like batman begins than batman and robin(biggest pile of excrement ever).

I'm a big, big Punisher fan when it comes to the comics and I'm also a big fan of the Tom Jane movie, I actually can't see why it had so many haters. I guess it probably should have been released about 15 years previous but oh well... Anyway, this new trailer looks like the film is going to be unbelievably bad. I like Ray Stevenson a lot but his accent was awful plus I couldn't work out what was going on with that weird armoured turtle neck. Strange...

I hope its good but I'd put money on it being awful.

By the way, I'm also a big fan of the first 20 minutes of the Dolph Lundgren Punisher movie. I thought the whole opening scene in the mobster's house was really cool but goddamn, the rest of that movie sucks.

As much as I would love to see the perfect Punisher film I feel (as a comic Fan from issue 1) Hollywood will never get this one right. Each film producer/ director/writer keep turning Frank into a Hero.. He's the un-hinged dark side of us all that instead of walking away from witnessing a crime (no matter how small), pulls out an Uzi and kills people. In today’s politically correct world I'm sad to say Frank can only live in comic form. TBH it seems like this COULD be the worsted of the bunch. I hope I’m wrong honest! But this film needs the right director and producers that accept the "psychopath with a cause" attraction of Mr P and give the character a film with the depth it deserves!

I've been reading The Punisher graphic novels for a while now although mainly the MAX series which is the best by far. I just want to make a few points about this film and the graphic novels. 1, Jane didn;t leave because of a bad script, he kept himself fit for 2 years with produces saying that they were doing a sequel, then they weren't then there was nothing. There was an open letter about it aswell. 2. The chandalier I think we're all in agreement about that, it's shit. As other posters have said, he would just walk in and shoot. 3. Ennis' punisher never wore a bullet-proof vest, it was always a T-Shirt, on one occassion even straight up military gear. 4. There will never be a true Punisher film as the source material is to extreme and would most likely end up with an NC-17 rating.

Actually, the letter Tom Jane wrote made it sound like he thought the sequel was a film he didn't believe in and therefore he wouldn't devote his time to it so I guess he did walk because the script was shit, although you are right that he did spend aaaages getting ready for the role before making that decision, apparently he spent all his time watching action and revenge movies as homework. Thats a cool job to have.

That trailer hardly sells the film. The neon glow to the film gives it a cheap look reminicent of a poor 90's production and the bloke playing the punisher looks a tad (shall we say) scrawny for the part. Overall it look's like one of the pre Blade marvel films produced for pennies and usually making B movies look like Oscar winners.

It looks fucking awful, the first one was bad and somehow this looks even worse! Why is he spinning from a chandelier? It looks cheap and nasty hopefully in about 10 years time someone will come along and do Frank Castle justice!