Cop to Open Carry Activist: “You Can Try All You Want With Your Constitutional Bullsh*t”

HOUSTON TX – The Houston Police department has been caught on camera illegally detaining yet another open carry activist while admitting the ‘suspect’ was not violating any laws. This video comes just a few months after the last encounter where HPD officers were caught trying to delete camera footage after harassing an otherwise peaceful guns rights activist.

The video which was released by the official Open Carry Texas YouTube channel, starts by showing a Houston police officer (#7428) standing in the street next to his open squad car door saying,

“Make sure you get my good side, alright?”

The officer proceeds to approach the activist, who goes only by ‘The Kilted Texan” and clearly states,

You’re not under arrest, you’re not even being detained.

So the Kilted Texan, wearing both his kilt and AR15 rifle, under no obligation to stop and chat with this armed man in a costume, continued walking down the sidewalk. The police officer quickly attempts to renege on the promise that he wasn’t detaining the man and can be heard saying,

Hold it, stop, stop stop…

Then the officer presumably jumps back in his vehicle, and judging by the tire squeals, peels out and cuts off The Kilted Texan at the nearest parking lot. He jumps out of his squad car and brandishes his own AR15.

We can do the whole ‘I show you your thing and you show me my thing, or we can escalate this another way, alright?

The Kilted Texan responds by saying that he doesn’t consent to questioning which really sets the officer off.

Dude, look, you can try this constitutional crap all you want, but I got news for ya ok? I’m part of that 3% that you’re trying to represent. But you ain’t doing nothing but fucking it up for everyone else right now, you got me?

I don’t think the ‘III%’ really means what he thinks it means as in the very next breath he proceeds to ask the activist if he has identification papers. The Kilted Texan simply responds ‘no’ and the cop continues his line of hostile questioning…

“So how am I supposed to know if you’re a felon”

I’m going to go out on a limb here, and would be willing to bet a large sum of money that a convicted felon, who is not legally able to possess a firearm, would not strap an AR15 on their back and walk down a public sidewalk wearing a kilt while recording his or her self. Logic and reason tells me that criminals would not want to bring much attention to themselves before, during, or after they commit an armed offense. Nonetheless, the officer, in all his wisdom, believes that it is his duty to identify anyone carrying a weapon to make sure that they are not a felon.

The Kilted Texan does not answer any questions and is eventually detained, handcuffed, and put in the back of the squad car while officer 7428 calls his superiors to find out what, if any action should be taken. The officer claims to be “pro-second amendment”, and admits that The Kilted Texan has every right to walk the streets of Houston with an openly carried long gun. But, he still believes that if someone is offended by the sight of a gun, and calls the police, who routinely demonstrate they are ignorant of the law, he has some sort of obligation to harass the individuals who openly carry their rifles, by impeding their travel, asking for identification, and conducting a long line of questioning.

Texas is one of five states that ban the open carry of modern handguns; however, long rifles and shotguns are perfectly legal to openly carry without the need for a license. This ironic restriction is part of a law left over from the rather racist reconstruction period of Texas, enacted to limit the ability of freed slaves to carry firearms. In 1871 the Texas legislature first outlawed the carrying of pistols outside the home,

“If any person in this state shall carry on or about his person, saddle, or in his saddle-bags, any pistol … he shall be punished by a fine of not less than twenty-five nor more than one hundred dollars,”

or around $2,000 today. The law was first passed by a Republican Legislature in order to have a mechanism to disarm Confederate sympathizers. Later, when the democrats gained power, instead of repealing the racist law, they doubled down and increased the fines and even made carrying a pistol an imprisonable offense.

Fast forward 144 years and Texans are still fighting to relinquish the right of self defense back from the Government to the people where it belongs. In the video below, The Kilted Texan is simply demonstrating the absurdity of the current laws on the books. He and tens of thousands of lawful, peaceful gun owners across Texas and the nation, don’t feel its necessary to ask government for a permission slip to carry a firearm however they see fit. Anti-gun organizations love to point to instances where criminals commit heinous crimes with firearms as justification to enlarge the barriers between law abiding citizens and their firearms. When in actuality, no law will prevent prevent someone from committing crimes with firearms as the crime they are committing is already illegal.

Regardless of the motives behind the Open Carry activist, the officer has no legal authority to detain an individual for the sole reason of possessing a firearm. One may assume that the officer was within his authority to execute a ‘Terry Stop,’ a brief detainment by police on reasonable suspicion of involvement in criminal activity [Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968)]. However, the act of carrying a firearm does not constitute reasonable suspicion of criminal activity in of itself to allow an officer to conduct a Terry Stop [US v DeBerry, 1996]. So, it appears this incident serves as just another example of officers acting outside their authority, displaying ignorance of the actual laws they are enforcing.

To make matters worse, after the nearly 20 minute long illegal detainment, The Kilted Texan called out one of the female officers for turning his video camera away from the incident, presumably to prevent any wrongdoings from being filmed, the officer responds.

I didn’t want it [the camera] to slide off the hood [of the car]

Knowing the excuse was a blatant lie, The Kilted Texan responds, “That’s a good one,” even the initial responding officer chimes in, “that is a good one isn’t it?” Just further proof that police are not on anyone’s team except for their own. Open Carry Texas released a statement via their Facebook page condemning the actions of the officers involved:

“Open Carry Texas demands that Houston Police Officers cease their harassment of law abiding Texans. Further, dispatchers need to be better trained to ask follow up questions of citizens making calls for service. It doesn’t take much effort to determine the difference between an open carry advocate and a criminal. ‘Is the individual pointing a gun at anyone?’ ‘Is the individual carrying the gun in his hands?’ ‘Is the individual acting suspicious in any way other than just having the firearm?’ ‘In what way?’

“These simple follow-up questions will prevent a needless diversion of public resources to areas where they are needed most.”

BrettSanders.me reached out to The Kilted Texan for comment, but under the advisement of his attorney he is not commenting on the situation at this time.

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What we need are Laws to PUNISH Police people (sorry the word Officer is one of respect, something this one is definetly lacking in) when they violate Citzens rights & freedoms. As it stands now. You would have to spend a great deal of $$$$ to try & get any kind of Justice from this.

Brett Sanders

sounds good in theory, but the state will not prosecute itself unless its to punish someone who crosses the thin blue line–whistleblowers and such.

JW Appling

And if you sue them the tax payers have to foot the bill. We should be able to sue the officers who do this instead of the department.

Abootoneveryapesthroat

yea really hold that cop civilly liable for his actions just like you or i would be for violating a fellow citizens rights

Justsomeguy151

But if the taxpayers foot the bill for these career criminals enough times, then maybe they’ll finally get rid of some of these treasonous pigs.

Russ Shakelford

Look at the history of the NYPD. They have Gestapo agents who repeatedly cost the city millions in lawsuits and civil rights violations. The unions protect them.

Russ Shakelford

Force cops to carry liability insurance. Eventually, the insurance companies will quit covering the bad cops and they go to work at the mall.

David Coates

But you have to be personable–and trainable!–to work at the mall.

Seanobi

Isn’t it about time that we recognize that forcing people to do things A) is immoral and B) ineffective, since the restrictions would be on the people who have the power to enforce or not enforce them?

The MadScot

Exactly! As I found out when fighting the red light cameras that were place all over the city to catch “Red light runners”. Well it all sounded good in theory, but the problem was that it did nothing but generate revenue for the city that it otherwise would not have. The city could not have officers at all of the intersections all the time so they installed the cameras. well problem with the cameras was that the city also corrupted the light timing systems in order to “create” the red light running in the first place! We the voters got the cameras shut off finally after being stonewalled by the city over getting the referendum on the ballot in the first place. It’s amazing how firmly entrenched a Government agency will get in order to keep it’s source of revenue. Even if it is “Unconstitutional” Oh and on a side note. The city installed these “red light cameras” with very little public input. And what public input there was were all shill’s for implementation who were planted there by the company who would have installed these camera systems. So naturally the city council voted to have them installed rather than putting it on a ballot for the citizenry to vote on it. So we have self serving Governments that our founding fathers warned us about.

docmerlin

It is already against the law, Uncle_Scrappy. But it doesn’t mean anything, because the DA’s won’t prosecute. Remember, laws and constitutions are just words on paper, what matters is what the DA, and judges and cops do.
Ultimately the law is an argument that they may listen, to, but even then the judges can make excuses and get you convicted anyway.

Scott Esse

District attorneys dont prosecute civil rights violations, these are federal charges, and as long as the DOJ is being loaded by a liberal president with an Atty General who is anti constitutional rights nothing will happen. But what is even worse is people such as yourself are absolutely clueless as to what jurisdiction these types of charges fall under, and as such they get milked for every cent they have by unscrupulous attorneys who are in it JUST for the money.

Bill Mize

GUILTY BEFORE PROVEN INNOCENT ! POS !

The MadScot

True! If you can get any kind of justice. You cannot secure any form of justice if the Judiciary is in league with the illegal activity of the Law Enforcement agency. What good would it do to sue the LEA if the judges won’t rule against them? Even if you did have the “LAW” on your side. Sure, you could try and appeal that Judge’s decision, but to whom? Yet another layer of corrupt Judiciary? What sickens me is that this country has turned into just another Bolivia, Venuzuela, Mexico, etc. These so-called Judges prop themselves up as upright and such, but are more corrupt than the most virulent criminal!

Travis

Yeah? Does OCT demand it? Fucking please. Demand? Time is far gone for askin for a DAMNED thing from these piece of shit “LEO” thugs. Wanna be soldiers. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Ben

at this point he could of defend himself and this cop would be dead fuck em pigggggg is going too helll wrighting a letter anyone can get his name

raythemixer

I strongly suggest personal insurance, paid for by the cops themselves. If it is required for driving it can certainly be required for policing. If the insurance company has enough payouts on a cop, the dickheads will be weeded out pretty quickly.

Scott Esse

the cops are insured by the department. However, what people are not aware of is the department does NOT cover them for any UNLAWFUL actions done under the guise of doing their duty. By Law, an officer can not be held liable for any lawful actions done while doing their sworn duty. Department insurance only covers unintentional actions, So in the end you can really only sue them for what you most likely will never get. This is a “game” set forth to dissuade people from holding dishonest cops liable for their actions, because it would negatively impact the honest ones. So either way we get screwed without the benefit of lube

Wmdoright

You don’t realize what your hoping for. Insurance? You want to have to have “Insurance” because you own a firearm? Better rethink that one my friend !

Cave Man

these cops does not realizes they is being trained. these cops are just wasting their time. this interaction that went absolutely nowhere took over 25 minutes. these gun rights people are funded by the NRA to go around the country and pull this stunt. the lady who originally made the call was probably a plant sent there on purpose to call the cops to create this encounter. imagine thousands of these calls going off at once these cops would spend all day doing the same thing over and over again like in this video which is a totally waste of tax payer dollars every day of the week. the programming is on the street level, training the police using the most basic human instinct. that instinct is what’s the point. this is what the NRA will eventually accomplish. sooner or later these cops will just sit at the doughnut shop or what ever and wait for a real call with real arrests not this nonsense.

Tim Richards

The NRA wants nothing to do with these people because they are actually hurting the case for open carry.

Brett Sanders

‘These people’ have done more in the last year, then the NRA has done in over a century to further gun rights in Texas. Open carry is poised to pass this year, no help from the NRA or TSRA.

JW Appling

The only thing the NRA does is collect dues and sell out to crooked politicians.

Tim Richards

If not for the NRA, do you really think that you would still have the ability to walk around with a long gun over your shoulder? Do you remember how many times the NRA shut down the Democrats’ stupid gun laws? Remember the “assault weapon” and “hi-capacity” mag ban? Do you think for a minute that Bush would’ve let those expire if he wasn’t aware of how many NRA members vote Republican? Hell, even Clinton figured it out, albeit too late.

Miles Coleman

How are they hurting the case for open carry, by practicing the right to openly carry….do you think he should sit in his house with a rifle in order to draw attention to open carry laws….did you think about your comment before it dribbled out of your moronic brain? The NRA is a joke they only wishes to obtain political power and influence and care not for the right of people.

Tim Richards

They are hurting the case by acting like spoiled little children. It makes no difference to me as I will most likely continue to carry concealed, but I support other’s right to carry any way they wish.
The thing is, just like this encounter, he could have stopped and explained himself to the officer instead of acting like a petulant child. Who knows, he might have made a friend in the cause instead of pixxing him off by making his job harder.
There are several videos out there of guys having actual civil interactions with LEO’s over open carry, the difference is, they treated the cop like another human being instead of like a mean adult trying to steal their cookie.
BTW, if the NRA didn’t exist, we probably wouldn’t be having this conversation right now because without their influence, our gun rights would’ve been gutted decades ago. My income is directly tied to firearms, and 90%+ of my customers support open carry. 90%+ of them totally agree with my opinion on the way this jackwagon acts, cops and civilians alike.
Just like my mother used to say, “you catch more flies with honey than vinegar”.

dave hug

and 90% of them have no idea how to defend a right. It is the outrage of the public not seeing guns on people without uniforms that cause the guns to become something feared.
Just because you donate and renew your card and have a gun collection does not mean you are helping. You are just making yourself look like a “prepper” get out in the streets because the few that are risking their lives to remove this taboo are doing it so you can still walk around with those guns without permits, registrations.
It was once the LAW(militia act) to own a gun and practice it. it was later ruled unconstitutional to force people to buy something just because they are alive (so much for affordable care act)

Thomas Jefferson,

“…I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body,
it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the mind. Games
played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the
body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the
constant companion of your walks.”

Bryan Pesce

What you are forgetting you have the right to remain silent and you are not compelled to assist a LEO in his or her investigation to search for an offense. The more info you give them the more they have to work with in finding something. If you say the wrong thing or misspeak in any way they can use that as probable cause to expand their investigation and then possibly legally detain or arrest you.

Beard!

You must really have fun making stuff up right out of your rear end.

Mick

But in US v DeBerry this isn’t the question addressed. Yes, it’s true that carrying of a lawful item, such as a lawfully carried firearm, doesn’t create reasonable suspicion to perform a detention, however, that’s not really the focus of that case. That case was to settle the question of whether an anonymous tip about an unlawfully concealed weapon, and the citizens gestures when approached, made reasonable suspicion for a detention and then a frisk. The judge merely mentioned this point (of carrying a lawful item) in his closing comments, so it’s not really a good case to hold out there for the point this article was trying to make, because that element (lawfully carrying a weapon and it being used as a basis for a Terry stop) wasn’t the legal question to be settled in that case.

Maieutics

Was that interaction an attempt to explain citizens the boundaries of Law in the state of Texas?

Mansgame

You’re not helping your cause at all with these videos.

Miles Coleman

What does that comment mean…….who’s cause are the videos not helping? It seems that this video will help the kilted Texans cause when in court……your comment is very confusing.

Mansgame

Ok I meant the idiots who go to family restaurants with their rifles and video tape others who are not impressed. Does that clear it up?

Justsomeguy151

Yes, its clear that you are a pig bootlicking idiot.

Meathead

Our Founding Fathers warned that a great danger to freedom would be a “standing army”. We have a “standing army” in every “militarized police force” throughout the country and they ARE a great danger to freedom.

Scott Esse

A police department is not a standing army, they are not under the orders of the federal government, and as such are not a “great danger to freedom” They still have to answer to the Judiciary and have to bring forth detainees in compliance with the Constitution, However this wasnt the reason a Standing army was not allowed. A Standing Navy was allowed as were The Marines. The Army was to be the Forte of the State, and in Specific the Civilians with the unorganized Militia. This was explicitly explained in the Federalist Papers, By the very same people who wrote the Constitution.

Steven Feil

Please try to improve your comprehension skills. Did you see the QUOTES in his comment. He implies that they are LIKE a standing army, which is true. Their allegiance, while not directly attached to the federal government, is tied there through money and supplies provided.

Scott Esse

did you see the context of the statement? no you are just here to argue because every time you argue with your woman she beats your ass, Now sit down, shut up and and learn that of which you speak,,,, effing libtard
local PD do not get supplies nor money from the feds, the disbursement of excess military equipment to nonmilitary agencies was banned before your messiah, Obama was unlawfully elected

Scott Esse

no, the term standing army is quote from the US Constitution asshat

Scott Esse

irrelevant if there are quotes or not. his claim is invalid and your claims are not his

Bob E Wills

Well said.

AmericanBob

this cop is anti gun, except for those with a badge, enough said, how do I know you are not a felon, hell, their pants are pulled up, you can probably tell by observation, ask for the drivers license, run it, then apologize and leave them the hell alone, easy peasy

Justin

The guy refused to give his ID. It would have been much easier had he just given it to him

Miles Coleman

Easy is not the point, the point is that he is not required to show an ID………Easy keeps things the way they were……and that defies the point of trying to teach these cops what the law actually is. You stay “easy” and allow all your rights to be violated but people like us will not stand for being harassed by LEOs that have no idea what the laws are.

Tim Richards

The law is, no felons in possession of a firearm. How is the cop supposed to know if he is a felon if he refuses to show him his I.D. or even stop to talk to the guy trying to do his job? He decided to do it the hard way, see where that got him?
It doesn’t have to be hard, all you have to do is stop thinking that the cops are all out to get you and try treating them the way you want to be treated.

JW Appling

Maybe the police should start showing people some respect and maybe they will get some in return.

Tim Richards

How did the cop show any disrespect until KT walked off?

Bryan Pesce

The cop told him he was not being detained so the man kept on his way and then the cop pulled out his rifle and told him he was now being detained without a lawful reason and had to call the DA to see if he was even legal to detain him and he was not so he had to let him go.

Keith

The cop may not know if he is a felon, that is true. However, it is up to the cop to show he was a felon, not up to the man to prove he is not a felon.

Crime control model is not the same as due process model. You want to operate in the crime control model when dealing with police, that is your choice. Police do not have a choice if the person chooses to operate in the due process model.

I see it got him a slam dunk civil suit he will win against the city of Houston.

Tim Richards

So what is your solution to the officer trying to ascertain whether or not the carrier is legal or not?
II YOU were a cop, knowing that your axx is on the line either way, how would you handle it? If you let the guy go because it is his right to carry a gun, and he walked to the nearest mall and started blasting folks, who is at fault?
IMO,. the shooter is ALWAYS at fault, but we all know that the general public doesn’t always feel that way . When someone dies, the media and a lot of the public, automatically assign guilt to the person who is supposedly in charge of the situation, which is ALWAYS,the first cop to show up.
My question is, if you are a cop, why would you show up at all?

Anthony McLemore

If I remember correctly, you refuse to show ID you can be taken into custody for failure to identify. I may be wrong, but I doubt it.

Keith

You don’t remember correctly, or do not know Texas law.

Sec. 38.02. FAILURE TO IDENTIFY. (a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally refuses to give his name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has lawfully arrested the person and requested the information.

(b) A person commits an offense if he intentionally gives a false or fictitious name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has:

(1) lawfully arrested the person;

(2) lawfully detained the person; or

(3) requested the information from a person that the peace officer has good cause to believe is a witness to a criminal offense.

Ernesto Bloberg

We have several incidents so how about a class action suit.

Ernesto Bloberg

So let’s go after their pockets that’s the only way to hurt them.

Tim Richards

It shouldn’t be about trying to hurt anyone. If KT hadn’t been such a DB, this would be a non-issue.

JW Appling

Exercising your rights is being a DB????????

Tim Richards

No ACTING like a DB is being a DB. I’m all for exercising your rights, but how much do you think he advanced the right to carry in the mind of this cop? All he had to do was be polite and let the cop do his job and he could’ve made a fan, instead, there is one more cop thinking that open carry guys are axxholes.

JW Appling

Being a axxhole is not against the law and if the cop can’t handle that he is in the wrong line of work. We shouldn’t have to surrender or rights just because some prick cop with a god complex don’t like our rights being exercised. The guy had a right to refuse to show him ID.

Tim Richards

LOL, he was doing the same thing you are accusing the cop of doing. The cop wasn’t asking him to surrender his rights, he was asking him to stop and talk to him so he ascertain if he was legal to own a firearm. Let me ask you something, do you raise hell when you are asked to show your D.L. to cash a check?

JW Appling

I have a right to not show them my id i I don’t want too. This pig overstepped his bounds by illegally detaining him for refusing. That’s way different than somebody refusing to cash a check. But nice feeble attempt at demagoguing the issue with a red herring argument.

JW Appling

Regardless of the motives behind the Open Carry activist, the officer
has no legal authority to detain an individual for the sole reason of
possessing a firearm. One may assume that the officer was within his
authority to execute a ‘Terry Stop,’ a brief detainment by police on reasonable suspicion of involvement in criminal activity [Terry v. Ohio,
392 U.S. 1 (1968)]. However, the act of carrying a firearm does not
constitute reasonable suspicion of criminal activity in of itself to
allow an officer to conduct a Terry Stop [US v DeBerry,
1996]. So, it appears this incident serves as just another example of
officers acting outside their authority, displaying ignorance of the
actual laws they are enforcing.

Tim Richards

So when another guy gets a pass because the officer thought he was just “exercising his rights” and goes and shoots up a school after getting out of prison, who gets blamed? This is NOT an us against them issue, if we work together, we get to keep our rights with the support of LEO’s, otherwise, we are just making more enemies for no reason other than pride or ego.
There was no ignorance of the law here, the cop was just trying to do his damn job, ie: making sure the guy was not a fruitcake going on a killing spree. Who knows, maybe his freaking ESP was broken that day?

Justsomeguy151

You are very naive and flat out wrong. Even yr analogy about cashing a check is an epic fail. The pigs damn job is to uphold his OATH that he SWORE to uphold the Constitution, NOT violate the [email protected]#k out of it. A pig only needs to know if someone is a felon if they see them commit a crime or if there is a sworn affidavit stating that said person committed a crime. What this pig did is called a fishing expedition. He was trolling fr an arrest/revenue generation. Sounds like you don’t even know the law yrself, no wonder yr bending over backwards to defend a badged thug and POS bully.

Tim Richards

And you sound like a twelve year old with a chip on his shoulder.

Justsomeguy151

Why? Because you are absolutely clueless about the law or because you lick pigs’ boots, dumbass?

Tim Richards

Nice attitude. That’s why so many of you guys have problems with cops. You don’t have to kiss anyone’s axx or give up your rights, but if you show a little respect and treat these guys like the humans they are, they will generally treat You the same.

Justsomeguy151

Nice stupidity. That’s why you lick pigs’ boots, even while they wantonly murder innocents and violate the hell out of their oaths. Bull. YOU are kissing pigs’ asses right now by trying to convince others to kiss their ass too just ‘cuz you like yr enslavement. Yr a complete dumbass if you think pigs beat, rob, kidnap and murder people because they “just don’t get enough respect”. It shouldn’t matter to a pig what anyone says to them because they have an OATH to uphold the Constitution, NOT to be fagots and bullying murderers.

Tim Richards

Grow up, Rambo.

Justsomeguy151

Stop kissing these treasonous pigs’ asses, dumbass.

Tim Richards

I’mm not kissing anyone’sass you fool, I’m saying not acting like a spoiled child and showing a little respect for the guys that put their asses on the line for US every day, makes for better relations ands avoids problems. Why is that so hard to understand? Get the effing chip off of your shoulder and start acting like a grown up.

Tim Richards

You don’t seem to realize that acting like a fool is going to result in the total loss of the very rights you claim to be fighting for.

Think about this, even though we are in Texas, we (gun rights advocates) are outnumbered by soccer moms and urbanites who don’t really give a shit about our rights to own and carry a gun. Most of the politicians are the same way, except for they read the wind to see what will get them the most votes.
We all know that WE aren’t going to decide the outcome of this issue, the politicians and majority will.

Now think about this, people like you think that freaking the soccer moms and kids out at Denny’s, and threatening the very politicians who control the fate of our gun rights, to the point of causing them to install panic buttons in the Capitol building, is actually helping the cause. Add to that the guys like Kilted Texan and the “look at me” brigade making videos so they can get their fifteen minutes of fame, and it’s not hard to see the damage you are causing.

My livelihood depends on guns and I will fight to the death to support our 2A rights, but I learned a long time ago to fight smarter instead of harder, and thinking that having a crappy attitude will gain you support is NOT smart!

Kilted Texan would have been MUCH smarter to stop and talk to the cop and explain what he was doing, instead of having the “us against them” attitude that you’ve shown. Hell, I would’ve tried to get the cop to join the organization, but that wouldn’t garner the response that he was looking for, now would it?

tim_klinz

im in agreement with you like you i would be the first one to get on the front lines and fight for my 2 amendment and i do carry conceal and im not a fan of open carry i think it makes you a target but if i choose to open carry and a officer comes to me and ask for id what do i care ill show him with respect and most likely gain a friend in law enforcement because i showed him some respect i would rather have one friend as a cop then every time he sees me i have a chance to get ticketed think about since this guy gave him a hard time, if the cop ever pulls him over for a traffic violation he is going to get hit twice as hard with fines he will remember this guy that showed him disrespect

scott

While he has a really bad way of getting his point across, justsomeguy is right in that the cop IS violating the guy’s Constitutional rights.
Unless the cop has some reason to believe the man has, or is about to commit a crime, he has no right to demand that he provide ID.

Justsomeguy151

Just STFU, you brainwashed dumbass. As if you didn’t already prove that yr a brainwashed dumbass before, yr stupid line of “showing a little respect for the guys that put their asses on the line for US every day”, cements it. How do badged, lying, unaccountable and murdering pigs “put their asses on the line evey day” by beating, kidnapping, extorting, tazing, framing and murdering unarmed civilians? An intelligent person would those POS what they truly are, hired thugs fr the STATE. Now YOU get off yr knees and stop blowing these traitors! You think just cuz you kiss yr ass that you’ll be spared?? You wouldn’t be the first pig bootlicker to learn the hard way that that’s BS.

Tim Richards

You brain dead moron. Keep it up dipshit, every time you open your mouth, you prove my point.

Justsomeguy151

Brainwashed dumbass pig bootlciker, have you ever met a pig that you DIDN’T bootlick and blow, [email protected]?? Yr point is that yr a brainawshed dumbass who HATES freedom and LOVES pig cock. Here’s the truth fr yr traitorous pig bootlciking ass, loser.

“Citizens ( any individual ) may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer’s life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529.

The Court stated:

“Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.” “An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.”

But yr dumbass would rather be on yr knees….doing what traitors do best….

Tim Richards

You stupid cocksucker, I have NEVER disputed any of the laws or our fucking rights. What I am saying is acting like an asshole, which you seem to have a fucking lock on, is only going to make any interaction with a cop worse, but you can’t see that because you are too worried about making sure I know how goddamned worthless I am.
BTW, you don’t have the balls to be a cop, but you sure are good at running your fucking piehole talking shit about them. BTW, what did they ever do to you?

Justsomeguy151

Look at the butthurt little traitorous fagot…FUCK YOU!!!! All your fagotass has done is bend over backwards to defend these pigs’ treason and you have the nerve to call me a Libtard, you hypocritical POS??? Knowing yr rights is the ONLY way to beat pigs but yr worthless ass can’t wait to KISS their asses! “You don’t have the balls to be a cop”…..LMAO!!!!!! See how fucking stupid you are?????

Yr brainwashed dumbass thinks it takes “balls” to extort, beat, taze, rob and murder innocent people in the name of revenue generation??? Stupidass motherfucking fagot!!!! The same pigs that shoot elderly unarmed people in their own homes, that throw flash grenades in babies’ cribs, that shoot poodles and chihuahuas because they’re “in fear for their misbegotten lives”, that LIE about the murders they commit, until it comes out on camera, that are NEVER held accountable. yeah, it takes a real stand up guy to be a POS pig, you dumbass fagot. And no fagot, yr not fascinating at all. Yr just a typical fagot that worships traitorous pigs and fagots like that are a dime a dozen.

Tim Richards

Still obsessed with gay sex, huh?

Justsomeguy151

Still sucking off treasonous pigs, huh?

Tim Richards

LOL, you just can’t get it off your mind can you? Why don’t you just give in to your homosexual desires,. I’m sure there’s some gay cops out there who will fulfill your fantasies.

Justsomeguy151

“Tee hee”, wrong fagot, YOU are the one whose full time job is apologizing fr treasonous pigs while sucking them off. Have you ever met a pig whose cock you didn’t suck, pig sucker??? I bet you can count them on one hand.

Tim Richards

You’re a moron, I’m bored with your stupidity, bye.

Justsomeguy151

I agree. You ARE a boring dumbass pig sucking fagot. Now go kill yrself, POS.

You grass and I’m the mower

Lol. Damn dude. The way you’re throwing a temper tantrum you have written a thesis on how bad this Richards guy is kicking your stupid ass. It’s very funny. Your screen name should be justsomedumbass Lol. Good luck being a dumbass. You’ll need it.

Justsomeguy151

Tee hee, fagot. You’re name should be “You’re the pig and I’m the cock sucker”. Its far more accurate, pig bootlicking bitch. Good luck with your dumbass delusion that pigs are our friends, fagot. You’re going to need it one day.

BobM001

GIVE THAT MAN A MACANUDO!

tinynot

TIM IS A TROLL! troll away from here, troll! bootlicking troll!!!

Bill Mize

LOL YES TIM THE TROLL BE GONE !!!

J.f. Willey

Tim you do have to admit public servants have been taking many people’s lives needlessly. Yes in such cases when being drawn down upon or being in a flight or life situation no one would react differently. Everyone would shoot to kill.. But many cases as of late are fucked up bullshit don’t deserve being called a public servant getting away with MURDER! They UN Constitutionally violate your rights daily. They hinder your travels which they have no right to do. They do many un do process like taking of one’s vehicle when they are arrested. They are actually illegally taking your vehicle on a roadside stop. They take you to jail for travelling in your own vehicle legally. They don’t care, they don’t follow the rule of the land and certainly don’t listen to our Supreme Court rulings backing We the People up. I say worry about yourself. If you are not being physically attacked or your shit being damaged or stolen from by anyone then move one live your life.. I don’t care about you. I don’t know you. But I would definitely make sure you were fed and cleaned before you kept on your journey. Can never let anyone go on a hungry stomach..

Tim Richards

J.f., yes there have been several instances recently. I have never claimed that ALL cops are great guys, they are human just like the rest of us. That said, the ones that I deal with every day are good guys who go above and beyond to keep people safe. I can tell you all sorts of stories from these guys, including one of my friends who was shot twice in the stomach while trying to get a gun away from a guy who was trying to kill his wife in front of their children. Another one is permanently disabled when he tried to stop a drunk guy from running over his own father and had his left arm yanked out of the socket resulting in muscle, nerve, and tendon damage.
This is the crap they put up with on a daily basis and then they have to go deal with some guy wanting to prove a point by parading down the street with a gun on his back, and people think that they should be just fine with having to babysit children like the guy in this video. Yes, he had the right to carry it, but you can’t tell me that if this cop had just driven away and the guy killed someone, that people wouldn’t have the cop’shead on a stick. Conversely, if he’d just followed along, driving behind the guy, he’d be accused of harrasment.
That’s my point, all the guy had to do was show his I.D. to prove that he was legally able to own/carry his gun, there never would’ve been a problem, but I’ve been crucified by these idiots who think that being an American means that you can do anything to want with impunity.

BobM001

ESAD “Rambo Troll”

Justsomeguy151

STFU “Rupaul Troll”.

BobM001

“Kurats Glava” comes to mind when I read your “responses”. I guess the term “sensible” isn’t in your vocabulary?

Justsomeguy151

That’s because you’re just as stupid as the other brainwashed pig bootlicker. “Sensible” to you involves kissing the asses of domestic enemies simply because they wear a badge, right dumbass?

BobM001

You REALLY need to get back on your “meds” there “NUT JOB”.

Justsomeguy151

You should follow your own advice, fagot.

BobM001

There you go talking about your FATHER again!

Justsomeguy151

So not only are you a self embarrassing pig bootlicker, but you’re so fucking stupid that you flunked Reading Comprehension too?? I’m talking about YOU, fagot. I wouldn’t attack your family members either. Being related to a POS fagot like you is punishment enough.

Mark Bong

BLO ME !!

Mark Bong

BLO ME !!!!!!!!!!

Airborne

You’re defending a guy carrying a military style rifle walking down a peace time street while wearing a dress and you say this other guy is naive? Whew, you are a dumbass aren’t you? This is why nobody is hearing you people these days. Because you people are too stupid to matter.

Justsomeguy151

And YOU are defending a blatant POS treasonous pig because you’re so fucking stupid that because you want to bend over and take it like the bitch you are, you think we all should. So YOU are the dumbass, pig bootlicker.

tinynot

no one can talk to people like this, they see a whole different situation that happened. they will never see, no one is defending anyone. the cop does not have the right to stop/detain anyone that is open carrying, PERIOD! does not matter what this guy was wearing, does not matter at all! and it was a kilt, not a dress you moron! those types are a waste to argue with, total waste of your time. have a great day Justsomeguy151, and a happy and very healthy new year/2016! BTW that pig should be in prison. and that guy defending his is what you said, and a bootlicker! and always will be.

Bill Mize

LOL ITS A KILT !

BobM001

Where were his “bag pipes”?

Bill Mize

UNDER HIS KIT JUST RAISE IT UP AND START BLOWING !

Bill Mize

ts a KILT !

J.f. Willey

hahaha to be honest with you Tim if a felon knew his rights he would have a feild day with the system because NO ONE I mean NO ONE CAN TAKE HIS RIGHTS AWAY TO OWNING AND BEARING ARMS. What is it that no one understands

” The right of the people to own and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED” do you not UNDERstaND???

All honesty this topic should never be brought up.. So ef off with your liberal leftist shit.

Bill Mize

LIBERAL DISEASE HAS FINALLY BEEN DIAGNOSED …. ITS HAS BEEN GIVEN THE NAME Emotional Diarrhea
ED
A condition characterized by explosive outbursts of thoughtlessness through the oral cavity, resulting in undesired consequences.

john campbell

It isn’t a constitutional right to cash a check. So, to answer your ignorant question, NO.

Thomas Moeller

“Let me ask you something, do you raise hell when you are asked to show your D.L. to cash a check?”
Cashing a check is a request by you for a service, and all parties are entering into this transaction voluntarily.
See? Learned something to help you not be such a prick. You’re welcome.

J.f. Willey

hahaha well first off it is normal for someone getting aked for their I.D. cashing a check lol.. And the public servant did not have any rights asking him anything. I mean really if he sits there and laughs his ass off when he is talking about people running up omg omg someone has a gun and he laughs saying no shit you are allowed to do that here lol I mean a good cop would know the different between this man doing what he felt like doing as a mature responsible man minding his own business walking. v.s. a dimwit looking for trouble. Besides public servants should be sitting at home or at an office building waiting for a phone call.. But should ask the person on the other end what the fuck the other person is doing before getting all gung ho endangering lives needlessly. To many panty wetters…

Tim Richards

J.f., It is also normal for an officer to ask for I.D. whenmaking contact with someone who is the reason the cop was called in the first place. Cops don’t like having to deal with stupid crap like this when they have real work to do. Apparently, a lot of guys here think the cops in Garland shoulld’ve just ignored the guys who shot up the Mohammed contest. After all, they were just riding around with their guns, right? That’s the thing, the cops are damned if they do and damned if they don’t, but a lot of people seem to think that they’re supposed to have some sort of super powers that allow them to magically determine who is and who isn’t legal or dangerous, just by looking at them. Asking someone for I.D. is not infringing on their constitutional rights.

Steven Feil

He overstepped his job as soon as he asked for ID. I am certain that if the cop just wanted to talk the gentleman would have just talked. Once the COP escalated the situation then he was in the wrong.

The job of the cop was to stand off and acertain if there was a dangerous situation. He did not even need to address the man to do that. It could have very easily been a passive interaction. But NO…….

Bill Mize

If it were Tim would get 10 life sentences !

Frank Nero

It’s not a stretch to know they are assholes playing games with their guns because they are. Only people with the naivete of a child believes that it is necessary to open carry a rifle at this time. The adults in this country will let them know when we need to open carry rifles. In the meantime I say it’s completely plausible to make life difficult for these idiots. Their stupidity is getting very boring.

yvonne martinez

It doesn’t matter. Unconstitutional act by the officers bottom line.

Bill Mize

AMEN !

Scott Esse

back up dirtbag… if you cant carry when it isnt necessary, what the hell do you think Mr little piggy is going to do when the feces hits the rotary impeller and it becomes imperative to carry? Get your head out of Feinstein’s Anus. The piggie ( he want a cop performing his lawful duty) was criminally harassing a citizen. But you didnt follow the vid, now did you?

JW Appling

That would only hurt the tax payers.

James Michael

Not if you sue the man that treasoned his sworn oath to you……

Scott Esse

the money would still come from us, since it was the result of him doing “his duty” so the department would have to cover his costs…

M. Adams

I understand you want your guns and you wanna be able to carry them out in the open but why? Why do you have to walk around with them? What is the point of it? I’m not trying to take away guns but walking around in public with rifles when you aren’t on a hunting trip sounds like something terrifying to see. Does the NRA support this craziness?

Don

What is the point? The point is to bring about change. To inform people of their rights. Make people aware that it is their own decision as how to best protect themselves. It isn’t about fear or because I can but to bring change and force law enforcement to understand they don’t make law but to enforce “only” what “is” law. It isn’t about hunting it is about self defense and however an individual chooses to protect ones self. Paranoid you say? Tell that to the people who have been murdered, most in an area that does not allow self protection. Let the cops protect you? They only show up after a crime has been committed.

M. Adams

I don’t believe that the cops can protect anyone. Like I said I don’t have an issue with Open Carry laws but if you are walking around in an Open Carry state without any protest or real guidance just strolling down the street, then I say it’s a waste of time.

Jeff Dudley III

i sure hope you’re not in a “denny’s” or some other place when some crazy idiot with a gun and vest he STOLE from an officers house OR an law abiding citizen, and decides to go on a rampage…you’re going to be wishing that one of these “waste of time idiots” were there to protect you and your family. if we loose the second amendment, the rest will fall. without the rest you will never be able to make uneducated comments like the one you made. or maybe you would like things to be the way of hitlers germany, or Stalin’s U.S.S.R. Study your history, and see what happened a few years before these two people came into full power. GUNS WERE OUTLAWED AND MILLIONS WERE SLAUGHTERED….They weren’t the only ones who did this….WAKE UP!!! PLEASE.

Don

M Adams. Texas has never banned the open carry of long guns. Only handguns. The goal of the open carry of long guns is to convince their representatives that open carry of firearms will not harm anyone and hopefully convince them to pass open carry of handguns.

JW Appling

It’s immature people who fear weapons. I saw a guy packing a glock in walmart here in a open carry holster and every one said hi to him. that bad bad gun didn’t jump out of it’s holster and kill anyone. Mature Adults can tell the difference between a threat and a guy with a weapon in a holster or on their back.

Abootoneveryapesthroat

the more guns i see on non thug types of persons in a given area when going through it makes me feel almost as safe if not safer as when i’m packing my own legal firearms on my person which is not very often that i’ll leave home without at least my baby browning .25 auto on me or his bigger brother my 1911 .45

Tim Richards

M, For many of us who are used to guns, it’s not terrifying at all, but some of these guys are actually hurting the case for open carry by doing this.
I fully agree with wanting their/our rights back (we never should have lost the right to open carry), but walking around in a mall with an AR slung over your shoulder, knowing that it is going to scare some people who aren’t used to seeing that, is counter productive. Holding peaceful rallies and handing out fliers explaining the situation is a much better solution, as is stopping and explaining what you are doing to an officer called out to do his job because of your actions.
A little common sense and humanity towards law enforcement goes a long ways in cases like this one.
FWIW, the NRA backs open carry but they do not condone actions like the one’s portrayed in this video. Most gun-rights advocates don’t act like this jackwagon.

M. Adams

Thank you. I’m glad you understood what I was saying. I’m not against rallies and flyers and if the guns are present then that doesn’t bother me either. Those places are the proper to gather and demonstrate.

I would be that person in the mall and to see that it would frighten me. I’ve seen groups walk in packs with their rifles out and it is unnerving when they aren’t speaking to anyone just marching about. I’m glad that not all Second Amendments rights advocates don’t behave in this matter.
Thank you

Tim Richards

No problem, and thank you for having an open attitude towards gun rights. Guns are not evil, they are just tools and they can be a lot of fun as well as a means of protection or putting food on the table.
I am a gunsmith and deal with a lot of gun owners and prospective gun owners every day. I do run into a few zealots that see a government/police conspiracy under every bush, but most folks are just like you and I who understand that we are all on the same side but the cops have a job to do. Are there bad cops out there? Absolutely, just as there are bad gun owners. the point is, it doesn’t have to be the us-against-them situation that many folks seem to desire.

Too bad the “activist” wasn’t black. Then the cop could have just shot him. Anyone brandishing lethal weapons should be shot dead in the street, to discourage such antisocial conduct.

JW Appling

Your antisocial maybe the cops should execute you in cold blood like your wishing on others.

Justsomeguy151

You should take yr own advice and blow yr own stupid head off fr licking this pigs’ boots and being antisocial.

Barbwire Bob

Hard to believe this crap goes on in Texas. I got pulled over in Louisiana, and told the cop I have a gun and handed it to him butt first, breach open…. I was scolded about the filthy weapon and he gave it back and said clean it.

JW Appling

It’s HOUSTON TX where all the wacko moon bats live.

Tim Richards

Same thing (sort of) happened to me coming back from the lake a couple of years ago here in Tx. I had a taillight out and my inspection sticker was expired (didn’t know about either). I handed him my D.L. and CHL and he asked where my gun was. I told him was in the glove box and he asked me how the hell I was supposed to get to it in a hurry if I needed it.
I got a warning about the taillight and sticker and a scolding about keeping my gun close to hand. A few weeks later, I got to scold him about how nasty his 1911 was when he brought it in because the safety plunger tube was loose.

dave hug

Identification is required for driving, but the right to travel and be armed does not requite identification until we officially become Nazi Germany 2.0. The fact that you would need to license a right to begin with is completely moronic, because then it fails to be a right, it becomes a privilege. Cops have gotten used to the vehicle road privilege and assume they can ID anyone who is not suspected of a crime. But the reality is they are breaking the law by obstructing the law abiding citizen’s right to travel the problem is not enough people carry if they did this would not be an issue. imagine if every LEO had to go through a background check for carrying they are just like any other human they do commit crimes only difference is a lot of times they retain their freedoms for it sometimes get awarded as well.

If he was on his side he would know the law instead of having to call dispatch complaining about being in a catch 22. He had no reason arguing with the idea of needing to show ID when he was not driving a motor vehicle no place in America is it mandatory to own Identification and for the sake of freedom lets keep it that way.

Tim Richards

Do you think convicted felons should be able to carry a firearm down the street? If not, then explain how that cop is supposed to know whether or not the guy is a felon?
What would your position be if the cop had let this guy walk and he went to the nearest school and started blasting kids?

This is not Nazi Germany, we aren’t being oppressed or suppressed in any way by the police, we are just being asked to work with them instead of against them. They were hired to do a job, most of them are very strong 2A supporters, and they just want to go home to their families at the end of the day knowing that they did everything they could to keep everyone safe, even those of us who don’t think we need their help. I don’t know about you, but I prefer them being on my side.

I will admit,I have a lot of cop friends and customers and consider a few of them family. I also spent ten years driving a truck all over the lower 48 and Canada, dealing with cops/Highway Patrol/U.S. Customs/ etc. on a regular basis. I have always found them to be fair and respectful if I treated them the same. I did NOT always agree with the outcome or the reason for our contact, but I respect the job they do, and most of them appreciate that. Other drivers were constantly complaining about the cops being jerks, but it wasn’t hard to figure out why if you saw/heard them interact with others very often.

IMHO, if some folks would stop with the belligerence and confrontational attitude, the cops wouldn’t seem near as mean or scary. We’re all on the same side, I have a lot of cop customers/friends who are way more pro 2A than most of you guys will ever be, because many of them owe their lives to a gun and the ability to own one outside of work.

Tony

“Do you think convicted felons should be able to carry a firearm down the
street?” Uh, let me think….If they have served their debt to society, sure. If they are dangerous to society, they should still be locked up. “If not, then explain how that cop is supposed to know whether
or not the guy is a felon?” Wrong question. If you think that cops MUST KNOW if people are or are not felons, then you would be completely FOR constant road blocks, I.D. stations at all stores and places the public gathers. Am I right? After all, giving up Liberty for Security is good! Who would have thought that Nazi Germany was right all along? Give me your papers now! You would cooperate with the Nazi’s right? Tim would say ” I have always found them to be fair and respectful if I treated them the same.” You see Tim, a whole lot of people would prefer more Freedom and less government intervention into our daily lives. If you do not like the identification laws on the books, feel free to work to change them. As long as the current laws do not require identification, if you are not breaking the laws, I support the law abiding citizen following the laws. BTW, you also ask “What would your position be if the cop had let this guy walk and he went to the nearest school and started blasting kids?” What a outlandish hypothetical question. An I.D. check would only stop your hypothetical if the perp was currently breaking the law or wanted for breaking the law. Other than that, IT WOULD NOT HAVE ANY EFFECT EITHER WAY.

Tim Richards

Fine, you do it your way, I’ll continue to do it my way (which has NEVER caused me any problems), and we’ll just agree to disagree. I make my living with guns and will fight to the death for your and my rights to keep them, I just don’t think that cops and civilians have to be on opposite sides-we’re ALL U.S. citizens.
I appreciate what these guys deal with every day, and I’ve had to have their help a few times. I treated them with respect, they treated me with respect, and I became friends with most of them.
The simple fact is, they have a job to do and making it harder for them to do it generally just makes the situation worse.

Tony

Tim, I am not against law enforcement at all. If you knew which agency I retired from, you would understand that. There has to be a balance between ‘we the people’s’ rights and the States’ interests. In this video, we see a law abiding citizen NOT breaking the law being stopped, interrogated, talked down to, cuffed and being placed into the back of a Police car. If our LEO’s were unrestrained by the Constitution and current laws, and were ‘encouraged’ to arrest and charge more people by the chain of command, no one would be safe from arrest. We must stay vigilant and demand that our LEO’s follow the law.

Tim Richards

I fully agree that LEO’s need to be held to the same standards or higher than the rest of us. My point all along has been that the officer in this vid was being polite and respectful right up until the guy got uncooperative. Now, we all know that the guy had the right to be a jerk, but common sense dictates that that’s not the way to make friends, especially with an officer who was called out specifically because of your actions.
A little bit of respect and harmless cooperation would’ve prevented the whole blowup.

Tony

The officer was not attempting to befriend this man! His job is law enforcement. Ever heard of Miranda? Anything that is said can and will be used to charge and convict the citizen. Lawyers and Supreme Court Judges all agree that you should not talk to Police. I suspect what you mean as being polite and respectful is to answer all his questions fully and without reservation. That is the opposite of the advice of legal counsel. If you say ‘If you have nothing to hide……..’, I will vomit.

dave hug

I just wanted to say your comments where awesome.

Bryan Pesce

calling the constitution bullshit is not respectful and not polite. If cooperation is not required by law then why do so and give up your right to liberty.

dave hug

Then explain how that cop is supposed to know whether or not the guy is a felon?
He is not, a man who is dangerous or a criminal with a gun will not be dumb enough to be walking down the road with any firearm in open sight. I want to know what branch of logic or situation where a human being will stop and patiently wait while being harassed by law enforcement when they have criminal intent.

If A man is armed and is a criminal with intent to do harm the cop would not be able to get out of his car if by some chance the idiot was showing the firearm which in every care they are concealed unless we are talking about hollywood bank shootout.
I like the part where they let them check their ID.

“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free
state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be
infringed.”

I like the part about felons and licenses i think its hidden in the shal not be infringed part. get this criminals don’t obey gun laws…..

“What would your position be if the cop had let this guy walk and he went to the nearest school and started blasting kids?”

If that was his intent he would be enabled to do so because schools are gun free zones. seems to me any gun free zone would be where a psycho would go you failure in logic there is the same why would he be walking down the road with a gun that costs that much and not just get a right to a school and open fire. just saying why would anyone who is a murdering sicko ant to be caught before they commit the murder you think they would be that obvious c’mon be honest here?

“This is not Nazi Germany, we aren’t being oppressed or suppressed in any
way by the police, we are just being asked to work with them instead of
against them.”

Either you live a very sheltered upper middle class or above lifestyle and are completely detached from reality or know nothing about history… I’m betting on both.

“They were hired to do a job”
If he knew his job he would have .
1. Told the people complaining this is America learn the constitution and rule of law.
2. Not have stopped the patron and obstructed his freedoms.
3.Not had to call dispatch to figure out what he can do to screw a man who is fighting for our freedoms by using them.

“most of them are very strong 2A supporters”
See 1-3 above.

“they just want to go home to their families at the end of the day
knowing that they did everything they could to keep everyone safe, even
those of us who don’t think we need their help”

Learn the rule of law stop drawing guns on patrons who exorcize their rights and maybe there will be less cop deaths drawing a weapon on someone who is armed and not breaking the law puts their life at risk that uniform means jack when they break the law and that is exactly what he did he broke the law here.

He was hostile because to him and the public a uniform must accompany a firearm and this is not china yet we need to change that very wrong way of thinking.

“I don’t know about you, but I prefer them being on my side.”
some are but many don’t give a damn and your assskissing doesn’t matter to those who commit crimes and wear a badge in case you have not visited this place called youtube you can see plenty of examples of unarmed people being beat and shot. until the good ones put the bad ones in jail there is no justice.

” I have always found them to be fair and respectful if I treated them the same” there are a lot of good LEO’s im glad you never had a bad experience but that doesn’t mean crap to a man who was shot dead in front of his wife and kids a month ago in my town fro bringing a puppy to the pound without ID for example. no riots, no national coverage because he was just a white dude. there are bad cops just like there are bad people the uniform does not remove the mental dysfunction people have sorry to burst your unicorn and rainbows but its reality.

“IMHO, if some folks would stop with the belligerence and confrontational attitude, the cops wouldn’t seem near as mean or scary”
The police state could not ask for a better citizen, you probably rat people out also.
look I personally don’t like licking boots I respect authority so long as the laws are just and fair but majority are not and justice is slim pickings in a nation of revenue first justice. You say what you want but the reality is every man is a criminal in this system(show me the man I’ll show you the crime) and being harassed by law enforcement is a reason to catch an attitude.

People should expect to be free and not be suspected of crimes unless one has been committed, not detained to figure out if they have committed one. That is the difference between a free republic and a tyranny like Nazi Germany.

You have no concept of natural rights or justice Why? because your mind has been molded to think this all of this is normal, it’s not you need more critical thinking to figure that out but you are unwilling to think outside your personal experiences.

” I have a lot of cop customers/friends who are way more pro 2A than most of you guys will ever ”

As long as they can have a gun they will support the second amendment make an exception for LEO to own a gun and no one else, they will support that too. If they truly support it it they would have extended a hand like a hero(instead of a gun to the face) to that man because as I have said that is what defending freedom looks like. It’s not conquering nations killing children with drones for world dominance.

“I respect the job they do”
You respect that we have 5% of the worlds population and over 25% of its prisoners? You respect the fact that slavery was never abolished(“Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for
crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist
within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” ) but that those prisoners are the new slave system you are praising?
The only solace I get from your comments is that they are part of a very small dwindling naive minority. Knowing has its burdens but I will take those any day than live with those rose colored glasses.

Tim Richards

That’s fine, believe whatever you want about me. The simple fact remains that I don’t have to act like a dick to retain or protect my rights from the boogie man.

I love how you guys can take any phrase and twist it to mean whatever you want, just like a politician.

I still say the majority of you blind rager’s need to do a 2-3 day ride-along with some of these guys and THEN try to tell them how to do their job.

dave hug

I didn’t say it was easy I did say they chose that line of work which is a public service line of work. Like being a doctor or a firefighter it comes with ethic obligations and oaths. They can choose to work in other fields but when they are enforcing the LAW they need to know it first. Before enforcing the LAW they need to know the highest LAW which is the Bill Of Rights not just what they say but the reasons why they where made. Seems to me Not many do and this LEO definitely does not. Guns drawn first is not how to address any situation unless there have been shots fired and someone has a gun drawn already. If they wish to be respected they must show respect all I see from this LEO is fear and ignorance and that is how people get hurt.

PJ1957

Great job Officer! See a gun call a cop.

Abraham Collins

Other open carriers have successfully sued police departments that have done this. I hope the kilted man does the same.

tad

I guarntee all the police haters on here would be calling 911 if some guy with an assualt rifle was chilling outside their house while their kids were playing in the yard and when you asked who he was and he said he isnt going to answer your questions becuase it is his constitional right.

Greg Ranzoni

“I’m going to go out on a limb here, and would be willing to bet a large
sum of money that a convicted felon, who is not legally able to possess a
firearm, would not strap an AR15 on their back and walk down a public
sidewalk wearing a kilt while recording his or her self.”

That might beg the question has any criminal tried it? Say with an airsoft or a bb gun?

Frank Nero

Hey everybody, look at the dumb [email protected]$$ in the dress getting the attention he was looking for. Just come back from your dungeon and dragons fantasy land and carry concealed like the rest of the grown-ups. There are these little people called children sharing the world with you. Texans sure has exhibited more than it’s fair share of stupid. I feel sorry for the normal people that have to live with all the backward idiots in that state. Nobody is impressed. The over grown babies in that state are coming across like a bunch of big mouthed pussies scared of everything. And just for fun.. Texans got their a$$ handed to them at the Alamo. Who brags about getting their a$$es kicked?

Brice Henry

Coward cops are afraid of arms citizens. He needs to move to Cuba the Un Americans POS traitor. Any cop that support this douche bag is a traitor. Cops you better start cleaning up these douche bags right now.

SICKOFTHELAPDOGMEDIA

NO self respecting Texan claims Houston

truthmonger

How ironic. this cop doesn’t understand the 4th Amendment, nor the 5th. What a jerk

Greg Johnston

Okay. Here is the scoop. We have no constitutional rights. Period. So lets stop calling it that. What we have is god given, natural, inalienable rights.

The constitution is a contract to tell the government what our inherent right are and it is to limit the government. It is not to limit the people.

To call it constitutional rights and let congress make laws for the people then turns them into man made laws, or in other words, an oligarchy or a kingdom.

Stop giving up your rights and learn the right terminology.

Mr Krinkle

Im laughing my ass off at that idiotic civilian… good grief what a friggen mouth breather. I feel real safe with civvies who have a sub 90 IQ carrying guns down the street lmao.

cajunblood

Sadly, it’s Stupid Cops like this that make it so Dangerous for the Good ones, who truly want Law and Order. It will not surprise me one bit when this JERKS family will be saying Good by to him. He will push his luck with a Criminal and will wish, TO LATE, that someone would be there to help. Really SAD…

Bill Mize

GUILTY BEFORE PROVEN INNOCENT !

Bill Mize

He left out “CONSTITUTIONAL BULL SHIT” PART !!!

Vernon Cunningham

If an officer detains me , I will answer his query, and provide documentation for my legal carry. I have nothing to hide, and he or she would be asked some questions. Like, why did you pick me out ? We hire them to protect us./ So why not help them do their jobns ? Cops are human and if you give them a hard time, they are likely to respond back. Give them no reason. Sure we have rights, but why drive it into the ground unless they go too far to tolerate >??

Warren

I carry, am all for open carrying, but geeze, in this day and age WHY walk down the street with such a weapon? Save it until the sons of bitches Obama is sending for us, then get them out and defend yourselves. Should another Nevada Situation arise and land be taken from a Rancher, THEN get them out and go to support him. BUT in a normal neighborhood with just your basic good old boys like
Black Guerrilla Family (Prison Gang) Bloods.Side Street Boyz.Crips.Pirus.Black P. Stones.Asian Boyz (ABZ)Fullerton Boys.F13,Salva Trucha and others, DAMN! Just keep that 40 Cal. or 45 handy.

no, fuck you pig shit!! You’re a perfect example of why the fuck dumb ass left wing Liberals don’t think Neanderthals like you should have guns.

Warren

YOU do not need a fucking gun asshole. It’s dick heads like you that give people carrying a bad name.

Primus Interpares

Why can’t they just talk normally man to man. Both wear the damn sunglasses (can’t see each others’ eyes), both are cocky as hell. Super easy to just step aside and sort the issue out. I am probably super naive.

BobM001

A$$ HOLES like this “Kilted Texan” fellow DO NOTHING to further gun rights. In fact they do MORE HARM than good. Who in their right mind parades around with an AR strapped to their hip? With NO IDENTIFICATION on top of it. That coupled with REFUSAL to provide just the “basics” when requested by a LEO? You have to look at the “perception” of what the public sees with respect to “open carry”. Had it been a “side arm” there most likely wouldn’t have been a peep out of anyone. But a rifle? C’mon people, let’s be “smart” about this. The LEOs acted 100% correctly in this action.

DavidMacko

We need to put all such thug cops in cells with Black Lives Matter thugs. That would be justice.

BobM001

So sayeth “Macko the WACKO”.

DavidMacko

Your mind is confused. My last name is Macko. The world is wacko.

A Eagle

Houstonians are not well represented by a police force which demonstrates such disrespect for laws they are sworn to uphold. That lawbreaking law enforcement officers would do so while wearing a uniform of arrogance is an embarrassing.
Indictment of the entire organization, as it reveals the problem extends beyond the simpleton offender, to those responsible for hiring, training and managing officers as well.

The officer in this video clearly requires re-training, in addition to any disciplinary action required.

I hope his future trainers are better qualified and more knowledgeable than the previous training system which failed this public servant in the same way he failed the citizens he has committed to protect.

This officer, these citizens, and this city deserve better – much better – than what is served in this sad video.

Good luck with that.

Happy Holidays!

A Eagle

Having said that, I would not make a good officer, because if I witnessed some loon in a kilt walking down the street with an AR15, I would pull over and seek to have a quick conversation with him to ascertain his mental state and intentions.

Resistance would cause suspicion, increasing the odds of escalation, given mild provocation is an effective trigger for revealing information I would be interested in evaluating.

No, I would not make a good officer candidate at all, given my willingness to ignore laws which prevent me from protecting the citizens I love.

Perhaps I have more in common with the offending officer in the video than I would care to admit.

claude1864

I think we need to remove the traitors from our planet! Before they take all of our rights and or murder us all and get away with it!

Timothy J. Harper

I gotta say, I totally agree with the officer here. The guy in the kilt is pretty stupid to think that in light of all the recent gun violence which has occurred and been covered by the news lately, that an officer of the law should just be “ho-hum” about a guy walking down the street with an AR-15? I mean, what if the guy did walk off and spray up a public place afterwards? This is not a far fetched scenario and taking all things into consideration, the police officer made the right call and anyone who thinks otherwise must be an idiot.

James Michael

Aggravated assault and battery aggravated coercion without cause and treason of oath are felonies. The latter a death sentence felony…..
Try knowing some law ignore-amus with a badge. Debeery v US ….A firearm cannot be the only reason for a stop absent some other criminal act…Felon with a badge…..
I would sue the sworn servant for every second he unlawfully wasted my precious time….

Bruzilla

Guys like this Kilted Texan are exactly why I would never want to be a cop these days. The cop is right when he says he understands what the guy is doing but he’s messing it up for everyone.

Cops have to respond to a call for service. They can’t ignore them. So when someone calls up and requests service, like “hey, there’s a guy with a gun you need to look into…”, the cops, by law, have to respond. There is no option for them to say “Oh, this is just some Nervous Nelly woman who’s scared over nothing. Just write her off.” And guys like this Kilted Texan know they are gonna get those calls. That’s why he’s out there in the first place, dressed and acting in a manner that’s guaranteed to draw a response. Is the guy going hunting? Is he going to the shooting range? Is he going to the gunsmith? No. He’s just out there trying to attract attention and goad the cops into the response he wants.

So now you end up with two officers tied up with this guy who’s doing nothing illegal but acting in a questionable manner (yes, wearing a kilt and walking around with a rifle is legal, but not normal, behavior) and refusing to co-operate with the police. Police are required to obtain identification information in response to a call for service. This guy went out of his way to initiate the encounter, and then refuses to comply when he gets what he wants. Imagine if the guy was running around in Muslim garb instead of a kilt. Then the cops would be deemed stupid for not detaining him.

I’m a fan of open carry, but when you do it just to incite this kind of crap… you aren’t doing us any favors. At some point, some one is gonna get killed because cops didn’t use due diligence after catching shit over cases like this, and then we’ll all lose our carry rights.

William A Palmer

So, one policeman out of thousands, harasses this guy and all cops are for themselves? What utter bullshit and definitely irresponsible journalism. I carry a weapon everyday and even I think this guy is a retard. Walking around in a kilt carrying a rifle is not your everyday occurrence. If I were a cop, I would have stopped and questioned him too.

Phillip Reynolds

You want to open carry a pistol, more power to you. You want to carry a Modern Sporting Rifle, keep your stupid ass at home.

Richard Teran, San Antonio, TX

Needs a lawsuit against the city of Houston. When too much money gets spent foolishly by the city, defending illegal stops, or paying out civil damages against law abiding citizens, the police chief will have to change the police officers’ behavior to fall in line with the law.

Uh, listen officer – he walked off because you first told him he was not being detained. Then when he keeps walking, that’s when you detain him. There is NO law that says you have to have ID while walking, even while walking when armed.

Officer, you admitted to dispatch that you did not observe the man breaking the law. Also officer, there is no “stop and ID law” in Texas.

This rambo officer who jumps out of his car with his rifle in a “me too!” moment is just high on his own testosterone and “authoritah”. Obviously, he got his feelings hurt when his authority to bash the U.S. Constitution was not validated by a subject…I mean citizen.

M Jones

Look the activist is a jerk. All he wants to do is cause a confrontation. He does more harm to the open carry and concealed carry then anything else. The officer was doing the right thing and how does he know the activist is not not a felon if there is no ID. I always have a pistol close by and believe in the 2nd.

bogie7129

What law is there requiring anyone to have I.d. on them?

Seanobi

As though we needed more evidence that the whole “III%er” concept is just as flawed as any that still believes in the existence of a “legitimate” government.

Mark

How was the 1871 law racist?

Brian

Where in the Constitution is it written that if one is a criminal that they can’t own a gun?

BobM001

US Code, Title 18, Chapter 14: Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA or GCA68), Pub.L. 90-618, 82 Stat. 1213. Also under the Brady law, a person convicted of a misdemeanor crime of
domestic violence is also so prohibited from purchasing, possessing
and/or carrying firearms. State and federal law does not differentiate
between handguns and long guns. This distinction generally applies to a
person who must have a license to carry a handgun.

AZArchangel55

Anyone supporting these dicks that go looking for a confrontation need to have their ass’s kicked! All their doing is making an ass out of themselves!! Stupid fucker and anyone that thinks this cop is wrong, you’ve got your head up your ass too!!

Gatman

Wow. I am amazed at all the cop-hate, when the real villans are the politicians (we know about this firsthand in California) who create these tensions by their unconstitutional anti-gun “laws”. Ya’ll are falling into their trap to keep us divided while they conquer and disarm us all (It’s not just for Blacks anymore).

James Michael

Yes the officer here breached the mans peace aggravated assaulted and battered him treasoned both the 4th and 5th and 2nd amendments. Absent a real criminal act carrying arms CANNOT be the only reason for a stop Debeery v US…..
Texas law is outright treason of the 2nd amendment…
“If any person in this state shall carry on or about his person, saddle, or in his saddle-bags, any pistol … he shall be punished by a fine of not less than twenty-five nor more than one hundred dollars,”

And the handcuffing when you have no authority to detain or arrest is a kidnapping a state jail felony among all the other felonies….

cavemansback

All the Dickhead had to do was show ID and gone about his business. Sorry But the Cops did a great Job on this one!

BobM001

(Enter Lt. Columbo) “Excuse me, I hate to bother you. But why are you parading around the neighborhood with an AR-15? Did I miss the roving gangs of radical followers of MoHAMmed intent on mayhem? Or perhaps a pack of wild Africans? BTW sir, that’s a LOVELY kilt you’re wearing. Are you on your way to a gathering of the clan? Would your name just happen to be McSimple?”

Troof Detector

This PIG needs to be fired!

Sean Barton

I am on the side of the copper on this one. What was the idiot thinking forget all that constitutional bullshit you Americans keep referring to. Common sense must prevail here. If you walk down the street wearing a kilt and looking a bit looney carrying a big fuck off rifle surely you are going to get some attention of the police. Then to not have ID which will show you are able to carry such weapon. What a twat that’s all I got to say.

consrsolame

And the dude walking in public in a skirt with an assault rifle isn’t the crazy person. OK.