Time to place limitations on the UN - US ambassador: Internet fee proposal gaining momentum

Time to place limitations on the UN - US ambassador: Internet fee proposal gaining momentum

The United Nations (UN) and its splinter groups such as the World Health Organization (WHO) have been encroaching upon our rights and freedoms and now they are trying to foist world taxes upon us and gain control the Internet.

US ambassador: Internet fee proposal gaining momentum

U.S. Ambassador Terry Kramer warned on Friday that a proposal to give a United Nations agency more control over the Internet is gaining momentum in other countries.

Proposals to expand the U.N.'s International Telecommunications Union's (ITU) authority over the Internet could come up at a treaty conference in Dubai in December. European telecommunications companies are pushing a plan that would create new rules that would allow them to charge more to carry international traffic.

Re: Time to place limitations on the UN - US ambassador: Internet fee proposal gaining momentum

So they want to tax you and I to use the internet so they can lay more dark fiber in third world countries so the big wigs can hand no bid contracts to telecommunication companies that are owned/vested by the same people who will vote yes on this tax.

Because the U.S. military who developed all this tech in the first place with the U.S. tax dollar for post nuclear war communication was kind enough to share it free with the rest of the world, they will now have us all pay another tax on something we all already were taxed to develop!

Make sense right? Because we shared the tech with the rest of the world free, we should be taxed on it now and trust the UN with the tax money because they know better than us all.

We need to wake up not lie down and take it.

Think about it, the people running the UN are obviously not rich enough yet and they never lie or fleece the people of the world.

Just because the last Secretary-general of the UN plead guilty to political corruption and resigned after 8 years does not mean anything right?

After all the UN is the savior of the world and the million dead in Rwanda need the internet now that the UN saved them right?

Re: Time to place limitations on the UN - US ambassador: Internet fee proposal gaining momentum

So they want to tax you and I to use the internet so they can lay more dark fiber in third world countries so the big wigs can hand no bid contracts to telecommunication companies that are owned/vested by the same people who will vote yes on this tax.

Because the U.S. military who developed all this tech in the first place with the U.S. tax dollar for post nuclear war communication was kind enough to share it free with the rest of the world, they will now have us all pay another tax on something we all already were taxed to develop!

Make sense right? Because we shared the tech with the rest of the world free, we should be taxed on it now and trust the UN with the tax money because they know better than us all.

We need to wake up not lie down and take it.

Think about it, the people running the UN are obviously not rich enough yet and they never lie or fleece the people of the world.

Just because the last Secretary-general of the UN plead guilty to political corruption and resigned after 8 years does not mean anything right?

After all the UN is the savior of the world and the million dead in Rwanda need the internet now that the UN saved them right?

:Head-desk:

Quoting: Chrit

This^^

Plus I was thinking, exactly WHO gets the collected money?What does that then get used for? How do we really know that's how and what it is all spent on? ...I mean not like the GOV hasn't tried to tell us they spent 100k on a toilet seat ..right?

Re: Time to place limitations on the UN - US ambassador: Internet fee proposal gaining momentum

un the UN

un-1 &#8194;

a prefix meaning “not,” freely used as an English formative, giving negative or opposite force in adjectives and their derivative adverbs and nouns ( unfair; unfairly; unfairness; unfelt; unseen; unfitting; unformed; unheard-of; un-get-at-able ), and less freely used in certain other nouns ( unrest; unemployment ).

Re: Time to place limitations on the UN - US ambassador: Internet fee proposal gaining momentum

America is happy to laws to the rest of the world, yet they dont seem to like it when they are told what to do.

Double standards perhaps?

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9094168

What "laws"?Anybody who wants to give money to the UN is nutsd, plain and simple, this organization needs to be abolished now.And don't get too big an idea of urself, the US couldntcare less about a former "empire" whose main industry is now trading used cars to each other, and is overrun with muslims

You can ignore the consequences ofyour actions, but you cannot ignorethe RESULTS of the consequences of your actions

Re: Time to place limitations on the UN - US ambassador: Internet fee proposal gaining momentum

Why is the United Nations trying different doors to create world taxes to be paid to them in my opinion it is to further their goal of disarmament at all levels.

Freedom From WarThe United States Program for General and Complete Disarmament in a Peaceful World

U.S. DEPARTMENT OF STATEDEPARTMENT OF STATE PUBLICATION 7277Disarmament Series 5Released September 1961

U.N. peace-keeping powers would be strengthened:

Measures would be taken to develop and strengthen United Nations arrangements for arbitration, for the development of international law, and for the establishment in Stage II of a permanent U.N. Peace Force.

An International Disarmament Organization would be established for effective verification of the disarmament program:

Its functions would be expanded progressively as disarmament proceeds.

It would certify to all states that agreed reductions have taken place and that retained forces and armaments do not exceed permitted levels.

Re: Time to place limitations on the UN - US ambassador: Internet fee proposal gaining momentum

If you think this will not affect you read it twice.

Article; The United Nations is considering a new Internet tax targeting the largest Web content providers, including Google, Facebook, Apple, and Netflix, that could cripple their ability to reach users in developing nations.

The European proposal, offered for debate at a December meeting of a U.N. agency called the International Telecommunication Union, would amend an existing telecommunications treaty by imposing heavy costs on popular Web sites and their network providers for the privilege of serving non-U.S. users, according to newly leaked documents.

The documents (No. 1 No. 2) punctuate warnings that the Obama administration and Republican members of Congress raised last week about how secret negotiations at the ITU over an international communications treaty could result in a radical re-engineering of the Internet ecosystem and allow governments to monitor or restrict their citizens' online activities.

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You guys are concerned about the internet???? The UN has been wanting a GLOBAL TAX for YEARS......using ANY excuse they can.

"Taxation without representation" folks? That's what started the American Revolution, people!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21277120

No that was just one of the listed causes and not near the top of the list in the Declaration of Independence.

Probably much more important was the refusal to let the Colonies coin their own money.

I've always wondered about the "without representation". How much representation do you usually get anyway? Are taxes ever put up for revote by referendum, with the option that people can just end them all and start over? Taxation is always more or less without representation, it seems to me.

Re: Time to place limitations on the UN - US ambassador: Internet fee proposal gaining momentum

lol sureeee like the american people would allow such a thing.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1015009

What can they do when our congress can not even have a say about what the UN decides?

Quoting: _2 swords_

Great find.

Our greatest power over the United Nations is through funding this power hungry organization and of course, the United States spends the most on this organization.

There is some glimmer of hope from the United Kingdom and the United States, at least the Congressional branch is fed up by the United Nations power grab.

Glimmer of hope links:

Republicans to Unveil Bill to Force Major Changes at the UN

House Republicans introduced legislation today that seeks to force major changes at the United Nations, using as leverage the threat to withhold some of the U.S.’s 22 percent contribution to the world body’s operating budget.

The bill by Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Republican chairwoman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, would demand that the UN let countries decide how much to pay and which programs they will support, rather than assessing payments based on a formula. It would end funding for Palestinian refugees, limit use of U.S. funds to only purposes outlined by Congress and put a hold on creating or expanding peacekeeping operations until management changes are made.

Critics of U.S. spending on the United Nations got a huge boost—and supporters of that spending, especially the Obama Administration, took a body blow—from an unlikely source this week: the British government, long one of the U.N.’s staunchest supporters.

In a sweeping and hard-nosed reorganization of priorities for its $10.6 billion multilateral foreign aid program, the Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition government of Prime Minister David Cameron has pulled the financial plug entirely on four U.N. agencies at the end of next year, put three others judged merely “adequate” on notice that they could face the same fate unless they improve their performance “as a matter of absolute urgency;” and issued pointed criticisms of almost all the rest.

Republicans Advance Bill Targeting US Funding for UN: ‘What Are We Paying For?’

A U.S. House committee Thursday approved a bill linking U.S. contributions to the United Nations to significant financial and other reforms, one day after Secretary of State Hillary Clinton warned she would recommend that President Obama veto the measure if it reaches his desk.

Deeply divided along party lines, the House Foreign Relations Committee voted 23-15 for the U.N. Transparency, Accountability, and Reform Act (H.R. 2829), whose most radical provision aims to force the U.N. to change its funding mechanism from the current system of “assessed” contributions to voluntary ones.

The U.S. has been the largest financial supporter of the U.N. since the organization’s founding in 1945. The U.S. is currently assessed 22 percent of the U.N. regular budget and more than 27 percent of the U.N. peacekeeping budget. In dollar terms, the Administration’s budget for FY 2011 requested $516.3 million for the U.N. regular budget and more than $2.182 billion for the peacekeeping budget

Re: Time to place limitations on the UN - US ambassador: Internet fee proposal gaining momentum

US developed or not, it's not just a US thing. It's a usage for the whole world and has been improved/upgraded/whatever by them. Make of that statement whatever you will.

As for fees; it's going to eventually happen, UN or not. The only question is, is who's eventually going to collect the fee? This should be the discussion. It needs to get sorted before someone take control/fees that we don't want to.