One of the reason's I moved from a Cabrio to a Coupe was because I couldn't get along with the creaks, squeaks and taps that came from the soft roof structure.

The noises coming from my 991 Coupe have surprised me; lots of very minor noises that I have been working my way around fixing - everything from slight creaks from the centre console, to more major creaking from the front offside top strut mount. I have fixed the minor ones myself and the major one via warranty.

However.... every time I get rid of a minor creak, I start to hear another. The most recent one being a slight creak in the drivers seat when driver pressure goes on/off the back-rest (i.e. accelerating/braking/road-bumps). As I went to investigate it, I wondered if this was going to drive me mad - and every time I solve a squeak, am I going to notice another?

Do I need to let this go and accept that a car with a £105k list price is going to continue to make small interior noises? Or will I eventually get to a point where everything is silent?_________________Current: Agate Grey 991.1 C2S Coupe, PDK
Ex: Black 997.1 Hartech'd C2S Cab, manual
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tom_nietoSilverstone

Joined: 08 Jan 2017Posts: 122

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:47 pm Post subject:

It seems pretty mad that such a quality and fairly young car can have so many rattles and squeaks. Have you had a drive in another to compare?

Not exactly comparable, but apparently the Z4 coupe rattles much more than the convertible, so I suppose a coupe isn't a total guarantee of silence.

Personally I lower the roof and the wind noise takes care of those irritating rattles!

Rob325114Spa-Francorchamps

Joined: 12 Dec 2015Posts: 280

Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 4:53 pm Post subject:

tom_nieto wrote:

It seems pretty mad that such a quality and fairly young car can have so many rattles and squeaks. Have you had a drive in another to compare?

Not exactly comparable, but apparently the Z4 coupe rattles much more than the convertible, so I suppose a coupe isn't a total guarantee of silence.

Personally I lower the roof and the wind noise takes care of those irritating rattles!

I have driven other 991.1s and there is the odd rattle, from different places... but the 991.2s I have driven as courtesy cars don't have rattles. It's possible that rattles generate over time(even a short amount of time), rather than because build quality has somehow improved.

My old 993 barely had any noises at all, when I got the 996 Turbo I was hugely disappointed by the cabin squeaks and noises, it felt like I was going back a model in build quality.

If I'm on a long boring journey I just have the music on, if I'm going for a spirited drive or track/ring day you don't hear them at all!!

Think you have to live with it and enjoy the rest of the car _________________996 Turbo
993 C2.

ShurvAlbert Park

Joined: 09 Jan 2013Posts: 1704Location: Northampton

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:57 pm Post subject:

Turn the stereo up.These cars are so stiff, why is it surprising that they all rattle and squeak a bit?. I find that I get used to them after a while and zone out, so that I never hear them again, despite them being still there. If you want silence, get yourself a Lexus. _________________996 C4S Arctic Silver Black leather

DemortEstoril

Joined: 21 Mar 2015Posts: 3896Location: Brighton

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:35 pm Post subject:

I was fixing noises on Porsches when i first started on them in 2004 .. so 996 etc at that time .

Im still fixing them today !

Hard suspension and the design of the panel fixings is the main reasons .

Porsche have gone to a lot of trouble to try and stop noises its just that sometimes it doesnt seem like it ._________________

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weejimmySpa-Francorchamps

Joined: 26 Mar 2014Posts: 280Location: Bucks

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:11 am Post subject:

My 991.1 had a few squeaks. Sadly the 991.2 is the same. Usual suspects. Drivers seat back creaks when you move you weight around (I'm not that big BTW) and something that just gently taps from the rear, sounds like a loose wire just moving about. Never managed to get them fully sorted on my .1. Have less motivation to try on the .2. The dealer has had one go at the drivers seat and it was better for a week, but the squeak is coming back.

It's annoying, but I always feel that rattles that are behind me are more bearable than those in front. Dash rattles are the worst!_________________Current: 991.2 C4GTS
Past: 991.1 C4S

rabbitstewMontreal

Joined: 21 Aug 2015Posts: 507

Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:54 am Post subject:

My 997 rattles like mad. Reminds me very much of my first car car which was a classic mini. In that I used to carry a role of duct tape and I would be taping trim & bits up as I drove along to stop the rattling._________________2008 997.1 Turbo Manual
2000 Ducati 996
1999 Yamaha R1
1994 Kawasaki ZXR750L2

thedarkknightTrainee

Joined: 15 Aug 2016Posts: 58Location: London

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:33 am Post subject:

ditto with the rear passenger she squeak which seems to be related to pipe rubbing with something? Driving me nuts!
I had the driver seat squeak too on my C4S; seems to be worsen when its cold._________________991.2 C4S, Agate Grey, Bose, SC, PSE, Sport Tex

Rob325114Spa-Francorchamps

Joined: 12 Dec 2015Posts: 280

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:46 pm Post subject:

Shurv wrote:

Turn the stereo up.These cars are so stiff, why is it surprising that they all rattle and squeak a bit?. I find that I get used to them after a while and zone out, so that I never hear them again, despite them being still there. If you want silence, get yourself a Lexus.

I get that the cars are stiff - but half the time the rattles/squeaks don't seem correlated to the car chattering on the road; it's things like seat backs, that squeak when the driver moves, rather than necessarily going over a bump. If it were trim pieces that were rattling/squeaking, it'd be a different story._________________Current: Agate Grey 991.1 C2S Coupe, PDK
Ex: Black 997.1 Hartech'd C2S Cab, manual
Ex: Silver Citroen C2 GT, manual
Ex: Blue Ford Fiesta Zetec S 1.6, manual

Rob325114Spa-Francorchamps

Joined: 12 Dec 2015Posts: 280

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:49 pm Post subject:

thedarkknight wrote:

ditto with the rear passenger she squeak which seems to be related to pipe rubbing with something? Driving me nuts!
I had the driver seat squeak too on my C4S; seems to be worsen when its cold.

Yea, I'm tempted to attempt to solve the squeak, but i'm concerned I will get another sound from somewhere else in the car, and lose hope.

Have they fixed the street on the Windows that go up and down on the 991? Got it on my 997.2 seen it on earlier models too. Drives me mad!_________________997.2 Carrera 2S GT Silver/Cocoa.

MNC911Österreich

Joined: 10 Feb 2016Posts: 981Location: Prestbury

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:14 pm Post subject:

Now sit quietly I'm about to give a life lesson...

Life is as challenging as you make it. If you keep challenging you'll spend your life fighting. Some things are worth challenging or fighting for. Sometimes the answer is acceptance.

So you have to ask yourself
1) is it worth all your time fighting every little creak (it's a car)
2) is it worth all your time challenging yourself to find a creak.
3) is it best to accept it is what it is, a creak. Once you accept you won't be bothered by it & ultimately you'll sell it one day anyway._________________History:
'10 911 Cab
'13 Cayman
'02 Boxster

EndexMonza

Joined: 10 Jan 2016Posts: 193Location: Preston, Lancashire

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:21 pm Post subject:

MNC911 wrote:

Now sit quietly I'm about to give a life lesson...

Life is as challenging as you make it. If you keep challenging you'll spend your life fighting. Some things are worth challenging or fighting for. Sometimes the answer is acceptance.

So you have to ask yourself
1) is it worth all your time fighting every little creak (it's a car)
2) is it worth all your time challenging yourself to find a creak.
3) is it best to accept it is what it is, a creak. Once you accept you won't be bothered by it & ultimately you'll sell it one day anyway.

Sage words MNC but not music to the ears of the OCD! _________________Porsche 997.1 C4S, Manual

Rob325114Spa-Francorchamps

Joined: 12 Dec 2015Posts: 280

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:26 pm Post subject:

MNC911 wrote:

Now sit quietly I'm about to give a life lesson...

Life is as challenging as you make it. If you keep challenging you'll spend your life fighting. Some things are worth challenging or fighting for. Sometimes the answer is acceptance.

So you have to ask yourself
1) is it worth all your time fighting every little creak (it's a car)
2) is it worth all your time challenging yourself to find a creak.
3) is it best to accept it is what it is, a creak. Once you accept you won't be bothered by it & ultimately you'll sell it one day anyway.

I'm so glad that a) I'm not the only one that thinks these things rattle and squeak more than they should and b) is driven mad by it all!!

I can honestly say that it's the only thing that annoys me about my car. I've fixed some, others I can't seem to work out and I can't really bring into someone every week when I hear a new rattle.

For those who say deal with it or ignore it - happy that's the solution for you. For others like me, once you hear that sound it does nothing but drive you nuts!

Probably doesn't help that one of my previous cars was a Lexus which was brilliantly built.

thedarkknightTrainee

Joined: 15 Aug 2016Posts: 58Location: London

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:05 pm Post subject:

I've given in to the torture and booked mine in to have the rear pass. constant squeak and drivers bolster creak investigated and fixed. Just too annoying to enjoy the car!_________________991.2 C4S, Agate Grey, Bose, SC, PSE, Sport Tex

fastloweTrainee

Joined: 22 Feb 2009Posts: 63Location: Norwich

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:31 pm Post subject:

Got to tell you, spent a whole afternoon looking for a persistent rattle in my 997. Drove me mad. Found it in the end, my missus had put her loose change in the centre console _________________997.2
997.1
944 Turbo

Buy an S2 Lotuse exige. I did 50k miles in one and now don’t notice rattles until something falls off the car. Porsches are silent by comparison, but that is probably because I am now deaf._________________Cayman GTS. No more PDK but still red.

thedarkknightTrainee

Joined: 15 Aug 2016Posts: 58Location: London

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:40 pm Post subject:

Well, Porsche diagnosed a loose 'top end' suspension strut with the noise coming from the rear passenger side. 4 days to dismantle and fix with geometry setup again. The fixed the drivers seat bolster squeak too and now my car is as solid as it was on day one! 10k and counting! _________________991.2 C4S, Agate Grey, Bose, SC, PSE, Sport Tex

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