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If I had the money I'd buy that house, restore it to its 1974 "look"...and open it up for tourists...honestly. The house is just too "iconic" in the world of horror films...scared the doo-doo out of me when I was a kid. I was born in 1974 by the way!

First of all, the bedrooms were pretty close to each other so it is very possible to shoot the parents, both brothers and one sister in a very short amount of time. Also the picture of the "7th body" was not one of the DeFeo family members. Ric Osuna claims that the picture of this body was on the crime scene pics but this is the same man who took Geraldine Gates' word on everything DeFeo. Lots and lots of contradictions in his book The Night the DeFeo's Died.

Dawn did not have gunpowder on her hands. If you have seen the crime scene pics, she looks like she was in a very natural sleeping position. There are claims that there were unburnt particles on her nightgown but noone knows for sure if these are on the front or back of her nightgown.

George and Kathy Lutz didn't make that much money off of the book. Plus they were involved in a few lawsuits and most of the money they did make went for attorney fees, etc. Also Jay Anson, the author of the book, used literary license and even though the book was written in diary fashion, the events he claimed happened on a certain day didn't necessarily happen when he wrote they did. Anson had been given some tapes made by the Lutzes and, along with his own research, that is what was used for the book. Alot of things that Anson claimed and what the movie claimed was NOT what the Lutzes claimed. As for the 2005 remake, that was a total joke.

Something else to consider. George Lutz didn't care if anyone believed him or not. He just wanted to get their story out there so people would be aware that these things do exist.

Yea. Too bad the real george Lutz was about as far from this as can be.

I would go through any kinds of ghosts and slime to get to this!

Me too! I never bothered watching this one (I really hate remakes) but it was on the other night at the gym. He sure grew up nice. I remember him from that lame Canadian tween soap my lil sis used to watch. "Fifteen." LOL He was so anNOYing! Who woulda guessed?

If I had the money I'd buy that house, restore it to its 1974 "look"...and open it up for tourists...honestly. The house is just too "iconic" in the world of horror films...scared the doo-doo out of me when I was a kid. I was born in 1974 by the way!

That is an awesome idea. They really should. They'd make money, that's for sure. Not from me, mind you.

Anyone have different crime scene photos than those on amityvillemurders.com? There HAS to be better + closer photos than those? I'm in a sicko mood today - need a fix! hehe

Erin
"When my time comes, forget the wrong that I've done - Help me leave behind some reasons to be missed. Don't resent me; and when you're feeling empty, keep me in your memory - leave out all the rest..." - Linkin Park - 'Leave Out All the Rest'

First of all, the bedrooms were pretty close to each other so it is very possible to shoot the parents, both brothers and one sister in a very short amount of time. Also the picture of the "7th body" was not one of the DeFeo family members. Ric Osuna claims that the picture of this body was on the crime scene pics but this is the same man who took Geraldine Gates' word on everything DeFeo. Lots and lots of contradictions in his book The Night the DeFeo's Died.

Dawn did not have gunpowder on her hands. If you have seen the crime scene pics, she looks like she was in a very natural sleeping position. There are claims that there were unburnt particles on her nightgown but noone knows for sure if these are on the front or back of her nightgown.

George and Kathy Lutz didn't make that much money off of the book. Plus they were involved in a few lawsuits and most of the money they did make went for attorney fees, etc. Also Jay Anson, the author of the book, used literary license and even though the book was written in diary fashion, the events he claimed happened on a certain day didn't necessarily happen when he wrote they did. Anson had been given some tapes made by the Lutzes and, along with his own research, that is what was used for the book. Alot of things that Anson claimed and what the movie claimed was NOT what the Lutzes claimed. As for the 2005 remake, that was a total joke.

Something else to consider. George Lutz didn't care if anyone believed him or not. He just wanted to get their story out there so people would be aware that these things do exist.

How disturbing & very telling is the portrait of Butch & his dad - his son had a long time drinking/drug problem & in a portrait, a permanent visual attached to the hallway, he chose a memory of himself pouring liquor for his son. That's tells me so much about how they ignored his problems & encouraged his terrible behavior. How sick in the head.

Especially with the combination of extreme mental illness, bad brown acid, and perhaps other bizarre elements of disturbia. Honestly, I really want to score that Amityville home 'sketch" that's framed on the wall. I wonder who owns that...Anyone?

Originally Posted by RaRaRamona

Does anyone else think his bedroom wallpaper made him mental? It would make me do crazy things.

Thanks for this - never saw it before. Would like to see more rarities like this one.

Erin
"When my time comes, forget the wrong that I've done - Help me leave behind some reasons to be missed. Don't resent me; and when you're feeling empty, keep me in your memory - leave out all the rest..." - Linkin Park - 'Leave Out All the Rest'

I'm not defending what he did to his family but I heard that his dad was one mean s.o.b. and that he had ties to organized crime so that may be one of the reasons why. That along with the fact that they spoiled him rotten and that he was addicted to heroin and alcohol.

I'm not defending what he did to his family but I heard that his dad was one mean s.o.b. and that he had ties to organized crime so that may be one of the reasons why. That along with the fact that they spoiled him rotten and that he was addicted to heroin and alcohol.

Maybe why he killed the dad but not the whole family. His dad spoiled him & threw money at him, apparently. He wasn't disciplined, that's for sure. He never had any consequences anyway.

I lived in Huntington which is the next town up from Amityville. You wouldn't recoginize the house now if you saw it. It's sad, really. The whole neighborhood has changed. Did you know that exactly one year earlier on the day of the murders, Karen Silkwood was murdered? Weird coincidence.

Wallpaper is a demon...I hate that stuff worse than gettin a bikini wax...It gives me the creeps...I took the wallpaper off my dining room wall and I let the kids draw on the sheetrock...It looks 100% better...

Those portraits of the family are actually really beautiful...and very poignant...i wonder too, who owns them now? I bet they must be worth a helluva lot. I especially love the portrait of Allison and Dawn...there's also a kind of eerie quality (hard to describe) about them, but that makes them even more compelling.

I've seen the picture of the ghost boy too, on a documentary a few months ago and on the web. Scared the bejesus out of me (and my daughter, budding death hagess in the making, just like her mum!)

I'd love a link to the graphic crime scene photos please, I mean the REALLY graphic ones (I've already seen the Amityville.com ones)...anyone?

[quote=Rosa Moline;399030]Those portraits of the family are actually really beautiful...and very poignant...i wonder too, who owns them now? I bet they must be worth a helluva lot. I especially love the portrait of Allison and Dawn...there's also a kind of eerie quality (hard to describe) about them, but that makes them even more compelling.

I've seen the picture of the ghost boy too, on a documentary a few months ago and on the web. Scared the bejesus out of me (and my daughter, budding death hagess in the making, just like her mum!)

I'd love a link to the graphic crime scene photos please, I mean the REALLY graphic ones (I've already seen the Amityville.com ones)...anyone?

Me too! I can't find any good crime scene pics, I am so dogon morbid.
The ghost pic freaked me out but can we be sure its real? Aside from being morbid IM skeptical to a flaw.

I was just re-reading the Osuna page and found this in the story of the murder discovery

[SIZE=2]With Bobby Kelske in the lead, the five men hurried up the stairs to the second floor. Bobby, a regular visitor to the DeFeo household, knew exactly where the master bedroom was located. As they reached the second floor, they were overwhelmed with the stench of death.[/SIZE]

I was just re-reading the Osuna page and found this in the story of the murder discovery

[SIZE=2]With Bobby Kelske in the lead, the five men hurried up the stairs to the second floor. Bobby, a regular visitor to the DeFeo household, knew exactly where the master bedroom was located. As they reached the second floor, they were overwhelmed with the stench of death.[/SIZE]

Now what do ya'll think they meant? Decomp or loss of bladder/bowels?

The bodies were not there long enough to really decompose in a way that would overwhelm someone. Osuna is a known embellisher.

There was a lot of dried/drying blood which can give off an iron/old smell, but as for decomp, those bodies were in really good condition, from the pictures I have.

Winners are losers...who got up and gave it one more try ~ Dennis Deyoung

The bodies were not there long enough to really decompose in a way that would overwhelm someone. Osuna is a known embellisher.

There was a lot of dried/drying blood which can give off an iron/old smell, but as for decomp, those bodies were in really good condition, from the pictures I have.

See, now that's what I thought. That they hadn't really been dead long enough for decomp to be advanced. I can't keep up with which author told the truth and which lied and all that. I do remember from my paramedic days that head wounds tend to stink but they were all shot in the back right?