Pachter: 16.3 million PS3s and 21.3 million 360s in US and Europe by year-end

VG247: Speaking to videogaming247, Wedbush Morgan's Michael Pachter has predicted year-end console sales figures that will serve as a sobering reminder to Microsoft that Xbox 360 sales appear to be slowing.

"We expect Sony to have an installed base of 16.3 million PS3s by year end, and Microsoft to have an installed base of 21.3 million Xbox 360s (both figures are U.S. and Europe only, not counting Japan)," he said.

The xBox 360 has been out 1 year more than the PS3!!! xBroken 360 should be Double PS3 sales but it's NOT!!! ;-D +Gears 2 and GTA4 won't sell more xBroken 360's that much, people are not interested in that Last-gen Console anymore!!! Never mind xBox Lemmings!You had a go!And you FAILED!!! ;-D

And will that be the new battle cry for 360 fans? Woohoo! we probably wont get passed up this year! We'll have to wait until 2k9 when FF 13, God of War 3 and GT5 come out! Just 6 months ago it was PS3DO and PS3 = Dreamcast... My how things have changed.

Clinton514...your probably better off not being an analyst because they are usually wrong. Now I am not trying to say who's going to sell more or whatever I'm just saying don't always believe analysts. There are games coming out that are a good or bad review away from significantly skewing his "prediction" (assuming his prediction is correct to begin with).

Anyway,things sure look good,20 million+ is about how much the original xbox sold during it's -4years lifespan. Not bad considering the 360 has been out for 2 years. we are still a farcry from the e3 expectations:1 billion. Things change gradually,not in one single generation.

And,oh yeah,Jenzo,you must be a time traveller, because you already seem to be at the year's end,

wait i'll check.....yep...we're still in April. hummm....thought i was wrong.

been very entertaining recently reading comments on this site such as: "Just 6 months ago it was PS3DO and PS3 = Dreamcast... My how things have changed."

"after the one of the most brutal beatings from the media and forums in gaming history, ps3 fans now get to be happy..."

" Damn the PS3 -has really fought against the odds and has come nearly full circle in the face of incredible competition, hatred, and constant doubt. I've never doubted it since launch day & I am so glad to own one. 11/17/2006 FTW"

"Let us commend our efforts valiantly. Seriously, we need to host a worldwide party...for all those that believed in the PS3 from launch day! We will RISE!!!"

make sure u dont be an analysis for a company or u will bring down ur company with u!!

back to topic, i think patcher is close to the real numbers but i expect more like 17 million ps3 in Europe and USA, since launch ps3 sold in 1 year in USA, Europe market around 9 millions, with terrible launch and high price, but this year its completely different for ps3, ps3 sales increase more than 50% compare to last year, so if u put that to account then we should expect something like 13 million this year without japan so that basically 21 million ps3 by end of this year plus 3-4 million in japan it will be around 24 million worldwide install by 2008/12/31! thats my analysis and i put in my mind 100$ ps3 price cut!

and if these numbers (with Japan included) are to become true, then the 360 is going to be needing a very, very strong 2009 lineup to beat the release of FFXIII. if the install base is that close i can see that game alone closing in the install base in 2009.

22.1? have you seen japanese figures? unfortunately x360 is a lost closer to zero then a million...at the moment... so japanese figures won't really help x360...it might push the ps3 a little though...I think...

edit: just checked and x360's close to a million then I thought...its at around the 600,000 mark, but just so you know its not from a reputable source...but hey hands up when I wrong... and to the person below...good spot...hadn't thought of that...plus you have gta...around halo release time was when x360 had huge sales..apart from chrismas...or maybe it was cuase they lowered the price or something...

meepmoopmeep, while i am inclinded to agree with you i wanted to point something out and get your opinion on it. I have since FF1 on nes been a die hard fan but in the past year i have started to notice a trend while posting on this site. That trend is an extreme hate and backlash towards jrpgs. I don’t agree with it because I have long been a jrpg fan but then again I also have been big into anime and eastern culture in general since I was about 6. We all know that in Japan FF is gold and that it will move tons of units but I am starting to question what FF13s impact will be in America with so much rampant jrpg hate this gen. Many very vocal reviewers have publicly bashed jrpgs (like Ben Yahtzee) and they sort of have a negative stigma surrounding them right now.

“We expect Sony to have an installed base of 16.3 million PS3s by year end, and Microsoft to have an installed base of 21.3 million Xbox 360s (both figures are U.S. and Europe only, not counting Japan),” `

The rest is opinion. Bottom line, the videogame industry is thriving and that is what I see, the rest seems fanboyish and one sided.

how long do you think it's gonna take sony to sell 80-100mil ps3s?? i'm interested! i think that by late 2010 when the new xbox is released microsoft will be between 35-40 mil sold. which aint bad. nintendo will most probably sell most by the time they release their next machine. probably over 50mil. and sony around the same figures, but just a bit less.

but in terms of regional differences.. japan will be nintendos, europe will end up sonys, and nintendo and microsoft will battle it out in NA.......at the end of day, we can all sit here and make predictions. no-one on here is a soothsayer, and can tel the future though!!