They taught us that the natural born citizenship clause meant that you must be born to TWO citizen parents! It was taught in school!

Quoting: Revolution

OP, I am sure you have saw the Illuminati Card called Rewriting History havent you? This should not surprise you especially since you have researched the subject. You may also want to see the BackLash card. It is someone who looks like Obama standing behind a podium with eggs on this face. Great thread to wake people up but it really means nothing more than repeating history and we cannot change it. Obama was selected not elected.

Looks like we all need to take a trip to our local libraries and get photocopies from the actual books before they remove those as well!!! They can't remove the definition from every book on this planet. So I wouldn't have to much fear. But yes, it is messed up.

How is it proven? I'm looking at a dictionary from 87 and there is no definition for "natural born citizen."

Is obama and his nwo minions going back in time and scrubbing those dictionaries as well?

Seriously...that statement, that it's already proven let's us all know exactly who we are dealing with...a TRUE BELIEVER. It's proven in your eyes and nothing will change that...not even something like, oh I don't know...EVIDENCE. Of which you have none.

You didn't break a major story here, you didn't uncover an elite plot in the middle of it...all you did was discover that most dictionaries don't list "natural born citizen" as a single word/term. But I'm guessing you could probably find it in an appropriate reference like say a legal terms dictionary.

Again I say, some of you are just stupid. No wonder our nation is bankrupt, overweight and scoring under third world countries in terms of testing/common knowledge, etc. Americans are DUMB.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1325715

Just to play devils advocate here, and argue AGAINST my own case. I have two dictionaries. The one I took pictures of and posted in the OP, which DOES have the definition, which I wrote out below the pictures, and then I have a small pocket dictionary published in 1997, which DOES NOT have the definition.

I admit, it was never in ALL dictionaries. But the fact remains that the links I provided DID have those definitions as early as last week.

"when injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty"—Adam Kokesh

“Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall!”—John Dickenson, The Liberty Song

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."—Ayn Rand

Wow...it gets worse. I started looking up "citizen" in different online dictionaries. Guess what? Every dictionary uses a slightly different definition. Yep, they all use different words. They don't even agree amongst themselves.

I'll bet that just before scrubbing "natural born citizen" they started changing the definitions just a little bit so that none of them defined it in exactly the same way.

Why?

To de-stabilize the meaning. That way, when people looked up the term, no body would have the same idea in mind...yep, they'd all be a little different. Obviously the Birthers are too close to the truth and they did this to try and confuse them. Before sending it down the memory hole never to be seen again...just like they sent Osama down to a watery resting place....

That's the only explanation. It's already been proven.

Really just looking for a cool girl to date...email me and let's make DOOM together!

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

It's ironic that Washington was several months short and therefore did not qualify. Some say it was intentional and to add insult to irony, he didn't take the proper oath either, in fact, no president since Washington has taken the proper oath.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277531

You do realize that the phrase, "or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution" is a grand father clause meaning that if you were a citizen at the time of adoption, you were eligible, right?

George Washington was eligible for presidency, so don't try that argument, it's a fail.

"when injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty"—Adam Kokesh

“Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall!”—John Dickenson, The Liberty Song

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."—Ayn Rand

Wow...it gets worse. I started looking up "citizen" in different online dictionaries. Guess what? Every dictionary uses a slightly different definition. Yep, they all use different words. They don't even agree amongst themselves.

I'll bet that just before scrubbing "natural born citizen" they started changing the definitions just a little bit so that none of them defined it in exactly the same way.

Why?

To de-stabilize the meaning. That way, when people looked up the term, no body would have the same idea in mind...yep, they'd all be a little different. Obviously the Birthers are too close to the truth and they did this to try and confuse them. Before sending it down the memory hole never to be seen again...just like they sent Osama down to a watery resting place....

Wow...it gets worse. I started looking up "citizen" in different online dictionaries. Guess what? Every dictionary uses a slightly different definition. Yep, they all use different words. They don't even agree amongst themselves.

I'll bet that just before scrubbing "natural born citizen" they started changing the definitions just a little bit so that none of them defined it in exactly the same way.

Why?

To de-stabilize the meaning. That way, when people looked up the term, no body would have the same idea in mind...yep, they'd all be a little different. Obviously the Birthers are too close to the truth and they did this to try and confuse them. Before sending it down the memory hole never to be seen again...just like they sent Osama down to a watery resting place....

That's the only explanation. It's already been proven.

Quoting: CriticalThought

Can someone check "blacks law dictionary" never even thought of that...I'm on a phone watching the thread....id be interested to see if its in there

It’s time for Revolution! Time to take back our country from the Bureaucratic monster that has become the US Government. This is not what our founding fathers had in mind for us. Time to start million man marches and rallies on capitol hill. We can do it. Look at Egypt and Libya. The time is now. Militias can start taking over small US villages and towns immediately. Eventually we will start to control individual states. We need international support on this. Maybe we can get foreign help like George Washington did to fight the British. The British had a bigger and better equipped military, and ill equipped colonial farmers still won back their independence. Conventional warfare and high tech. equipment are no match against unconventional warfare and guerrilla tactics. Many will die fighting local law enforcement and the armed forces, but I bet many of those soldiers will join our ranks. I’m tired of high taxes and a big overspending government. I’m tired of all the constitutional changes imposed upon us. I’m tired of loosing my civil liberties. I’m tired of the Feds telling the states what to do. Taxation without representation, isn’t that why we went to war against England. Now they want to tax our cars by the mile. Hell, I can’t even practice religion in school. I’m tired of being told what I can and can’t do. Elect a new congress. New senate, new representatives, and especially, a new president. Get guns. Get ammo. Get ready. REVOLUTION!

It is just a mind control programming to make you aware they are going to gather the Bible and any book they choose. The movies are where the truth can be found. I have been laughed at for saying that but just look around at the movies and all the hints we are being given. The Elite tells you exactly what they are going to do if you know where to look. Peace to all of you.

Op ill keep u up to date on the FOIA request I stated earlier...ill be on in the morning....excellent work...we got ur back...check back with if this hits drudge......can't wait to read in a few hours peace everyone

"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

It's ironic that Washington was several months short and therefore did not qualify. Some say it was intentional and to add insult to irony, he didn't take the proper oath either, in fact, no president since Washington has taken the proper oath.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277531

You do realize that the phrase, "or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution" is a grand father clause meaning that if you were a citizen at the time of adoption, you were eligible, right?

George Washington was eligible for presidency, so don't try that argument, it's a fail.

Quoting: Revolution

Hey! op Take a few minutes and view this video. You'll find the interesting what Obama co-sign to..

If people only would put this much energy into a party affiliation without wasting it all trying to topple the current. Something might actually get done come elections. Otherwise it doesn't matter because some new shmoe you all will end up hating because of his affiliation, that isn't different then before because the party you support is too busy in-fighting and seeking truth, that they wont get elected. Rather then out there explaining why you want the changes and selling the people on your truths and let the other parties defend themselves post hence.

This is some serious shit. Before Obama released his "long form" birth certificate last week, you could go to ANY online dictionary and view the definition of Natural Born Citizen, which is (roughly) as follows:

Nat|u|ral Born (Nach'er el Born', Nach'rel-), adj.

1 That is so by nature, born so: a natural born boxer, a natural born fool. 2 Native of a country; not alien: a natural born citizen or subject.

The reason this is important is because right now, there is an ongoing debate over at Wikipedia due to the scrubbing of references to Emerich De Vattel's work Law of Nations, right after Obama released his long form.

They have maintained here that since Vattel wrote in French, and his exact wording for Natural-Born is, "Les Naturales ou indigenes" which literally translated would mean "the naturals or natives", Vattel can not be used as a reference for the wording of the Constitutional requirement of Natural Born Citizenship. But, Vattel's definition (in English) is as follows:

The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.

Regardless of Vattels original wording, it should be obvious to any critical thinker that if he was talking about "naturals" and defining who they were, it was to take as self explanatory that 1) these individuals had been born, and 2) they were citizens. And considering that natural, native, and Indigenous are all synonymous, It can not be disputed that Vattel was speaking about a person who's citizenship falls naturally upon them by virtue of birth, or to put it another way, a Natural Born Citizen. This work has been cited extensively by our forefathers, as can be witnessed in this video:

There can be NO disputing the fact that the definition of Natural Born Citizen is indeed one who is born to TWO parents, who are BOTH citizens. It is now undeniable that there is a very serious cover-up going on regarding this Constitutional requirement. I wish to point out the VERY RAPID succession of events that occurred over the last week:

April 27th

In response to growing demands to release his long form birth certificate, Obama finally reveals it to the public.

April 3oth

Obama appears in front of guests and on national TV at the White House Correspondence dinner to gloat in triumph over the release of this Long Form Birth Certificate, even as concern grows over the real issue, his Natural Born Citizenship Status.

May 1st

In a MAJOR political move, Obama appears on live TV to announce the death of Osama Bin Laden earlier that day.

People, this is a CUT AND DRY "Wag the Dog" Scenario! Our government has known Bin Laden's whereabouts for at least five years, but they have been keeping him alive for a "Politically Expedient Moment". That moment came last Sunday, and was used to distract the publics attention once and for all from his eligibility. The birth certificate NEVER WAS THE ISSUE! And with the disappearance of the definition from online dictionaries, there can be no refuting that SOMEBODY IS HIDING SOMETHING!

I CAN NOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH: The REAL issue concerning Obama's eligibility is and ALWAYS HAS BEEN, his Natural Born Status! Since his father was a Kenyan national and NEVER held US citizenship, OBAMA CAN NOT MEET THIS REQUIREMENT! The Birth certificate as I have ALWAYS maintained, was a distraction. But since that Distraction was discarded on the 27th, Bin Laden was given to use to replace it! Look at the facts:

Obama created the conspiracy theory about his PLACE OF BIRTH by deliberately refusing to release the long form, for the sole purpose of distracting us from the REAL issue. He let it build for 3 years, going so far as to imprison Terrence Lakin for demanding proof of Obama's eligibility. Focus began to shift this spring to the Natural Born requirement, and people began to point out the fact that he does not meet this requirement. When he finally released the Birth Certificate, he stated quite explicitly that “I know that theres going to be a segment of people for which, no matter what we put out, this issue will not be put to rest”. After a moment of triumph, Obama delivers up to us another mystery. Osama Bin Laden is dead, but we disposed of the body, and we WILL NOT be releasing any photographic proof of our claim. He then goes on to state that, "There are going to be some folks who deny it. The fact of the matter is you won't see bin Laden walking on this earth again."

This is THE EXACT SAME SCENARIO he used with the Birth Certificate! He has created a second distraction to keep you away from his eligibility. The refusal to provide evidence of Bin Ladens death WILL create conspiracy theories, and THAT is what Obama is hedging his bets on. He has given us Bin Laden to keep us distracted!

Anyone remember the Transformer movies? After the evil Megatron's defeat wasn't he dropped into the ocean? The second movie begins with his followers bringing him back to life.

I'm not a huge fan of synchro-mysticism but, if "They" really do reveal their method via pop culture, maybe we'll see The Return of Bin Laden. They've already conditioned us to expect sequels!

What if "They" planned it all out beforehand...placing a non citizen into office who then assures the nation he killed Osama but refuses to prove it...when Osama returns everyone will take a second, more critical look at the President and boom! CHAOS and DOOM! Better declare martial law to keep the nation from being torn apart and all the overfed reality tv watching numbskulls from getting hurt.

Or, how many sons did Osama have? The son is an extension of the father right? Maybe they'll just have one of his sons -straight out of central casting- become the next big nemesis. In that way, Osama could strike again from beyond his watery grave!

Really just looking for a cool girl to date...email me and let's make DOOM together!

DEAR SENATOR SPECTER: Pursuant to a re-quest received from Democratic Committee staff, I enclose for your consideration a copy of my and Professor Laurence Tribe’s anal-ysis of the question whether Senator John McCain is a ‘‘natural born citizen’’ eligible, under Article II of the Constitution, to hold the office of President of the United States. Professor Tribe and I are in agreement that the circumstances of Senator McCain’s birth to American parents in the Panama Canal Zone make him a natural born citizen within the meaning of the Constitution. Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance in this matter. Very truly yours, THEODORE B. OLSON. MARCH 19, 2008.

We have analyzed whether Senator John McCain is eligible for the U.S. Presidency, in light of the requirement under Article II of the U.S. Constitution that only ‘‘natural born Citizen . . . shall be eligible to the Office of President.’’ U.S. Const. art. II, § 1, cl. 5. We conclude that Senator McCain is a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ by virtue of his birth in 1936 to U.S. citizen parents who were serv-ing their country on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone. The circumstances of Senator McCain’s birth satisfy the origi-nal meaning and intent of the Natural Born Citizen Clause, as confirmed by subsequent legal precedent and historical practice.

The Constitution does not define the mean-ing of ‘‘natural born Citizen.’’ The U.S. Su-preme Court gives meaning to terms that are not expressly defined in the Constitution by looking to the context in which those terms are used; to statutes enacted by the First Congress, Marsh v. Chambers, 463 U.S. 783, 790–91 (1983); and to the common law at the time of the Founding. United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 655 (1898). These sources all confirm that the phrase ‘‘natural born’’ includes both birth abroad to parents who were citizens, and birth within a na-tion’s territory and allegiance. Thus, regard-less of the sovereign status of the Panama Canal Zone at the time of Senator McCain’s birth, he is a ‘‘natural born’’ citizen because he was born to parents who were U.S. citi-zens.

Congress has recognized in successive fed-eral statutes since the Nation’s Founding that children born abroad to U.S. citizens are themselves U.S. citizens. 8 U.S.C. § 1401(c); see also Act of May 24, 1934, Pub. L. No. 73–250, § 1, 48 Stat. 797, 797. Indeed, the statute that the First Congress enacted on this subject not only established that such children are U.S. citizens, but also expressly referred to them as ‘‘natural born citizens.’’ Act of Mar. 26, 1790, ch. 3, § 1, 1 Stat. 103, 104. Senator McCain’s status as a ‘‘natural born’’ citizen by virtue of his birth to U.S. citizen parents is consistent with British statutes in force when the Constitution was drafted, which undoubtedly informed the Framers’ understanding of the Natural Born Citizen Clause. Those statutes provided, for example, that children born abroad to par-ents who were ‘‘natural-born Subjects’’ were also ‘‘natural-born Subjects . . . to all In-tents, Constructions and Purposes whatso-ever.’’ British Nationality Act, 1730, 4 Geol. 2, c. 21. The Framers substituted the word ‘‘citizen’’ for ‘‘subject’’ to reflect the shift from monarchy to democracy, but the Su-preme Court has recognized that the two terms are otherwise identical. See, e.g., Hen-nessy v. Richardson Drug Co., 189 U.S. 25, 34– 35 (1903). Thus, the First Congress’s statu-tory recognition that persons born abroad to U.S. citizens were ‘‘natural born’’ citizens fully conformed to British tradition, where-by citizenship conferred by statute based on the circumstances of one’s birth made one natural born.

There is a second and independent basis for concluding that Senator McCain is a ‘‘nat-ural born’’ citizen within the meaning of the Constitution. If the Panama Canal Zone was sovereign U.S. territory at the time of Sen-ator McCain’s birth, then that fact alone would make him a ‘‘natural born’’ citizen under the well-established principle that ‘‘natural born’’ citizenship includes birth within the territory and allegiance of the United States. See, e.g., Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. at 655–66. The Fourteenth Amendment expressly enshrines this connection between birthplace and citizenship in the text of the Constitution. U.S. Const. amend. XIV, § 1 (‘‘All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdic-tion thereof, are citizens of the United States. * * * ’’) (emphases added). Premising ‘‘natural born’’ citizenship on the character of the territory in which one is born is root-ed in the common-law understanding that persons born within the British kingdom and under loyalty to the British Crown—includ-ing most of the Framers themselves, who were born in the American colonies—were deemed ‘‘natural born subjects.’’ See, e.g., 1 William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England 354 (Legal Classics Library 1983) (1765) (‘‘Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England, that is, within the ligeance, or as it is generally called, the alle-giance of the king.* * * ’’).

There is substantial legal support for the proposition that the Panama Canal Zone was indeed sovereign U.S. territory when Senator McCain was born there in 1936. The U.S. Su-preme Court has explained that, ‘‘[f]rom 1904 to 1979, the United States exercised sov-ereignty over the Panama Canal and the sur-rounding 10-mile-wide Panama Canal Zone.’’ 0’Connor v. United States, 479 U.S. 27, 28 (1986). Congress and the executive branch similarly suggested that the Canal Zone was subject to the sovereignty of the United States. See, e.g., The President—Government of the Canal Zone, 26 Op. Att’y Gen. 113, 116 (1907) (recognizing that the 1904 treaty between the United States and Panama ‘‘imposed upon the United States the obligations as well as the powers of a sovereign within the [Canal Zone]’’); Panama Canal Act of 1912, Pub. L. No. 62–337, § 1, 37 Stat. 560, 560 (recognizing that ‘‘the use, occupancy, or control’’ of the Canal Zone had been ‘‘granted to the United States by the treaty between the United States and the Republic of Panama’’). Thus, although Senator McCain was not born with-in a State, there is a significant body of legal authority indicating that he was neverthe-less born within the sovereign territory of the United States.

Historical practice confirms that birth on soil that is under the sovereignty of the United States, but not within a State, satis-fies the Natural Born Citizen Clause. For ex-ample, Vice President Charles Curtis was born in the territory of Kansas on January 25, 1860—one year before Kansas became a State. Because the Twelfth Amendment re-quires that Vice Presidents possess the same qualifications as Presidents, the service of Vice President Curtis verifies that the phrase ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ includes birth outside of any State but within U.S. terri-tory. Similarly, Senator Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before its statehood, yet attained the Republican Party’s presidential nomination in 1964. And Senator Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961—not long after its admission to the Union on August 21, 1959. We find it incon-ceivable that Senator Obama would have been ineligible for the Presidency had he been born two years earlier.

Senator McCain’s candidacy for the Presi-dency is consistent not only with the accept-ed meaning of ‘‘natural born Citizen,’’ but also with the Framers’ intentions when adopting that language. The Natural Born Citizen Clause was added to the Constitution shortly after John Jay sent a letter to George Washington expressing concern about ‘‘Foreigners’’ attaining the position of Com-mander in Chief. 3 Max Farrand, The Records of the Federal Convention of 1787, at 61 (1911). It goes without saying that the Fram-ers did not intend to exclude a person from the office of the President simply because he or she was born to U.S. citizens serving in the U.S. military outside of the continental United States; Senator McCain is certainly not the hypothetical ‘‘Foreigner’’ who John Jay and George Washington were concerned might usurp the role of Commander in Chief. Therefore, based on the original meaning of the Constitution, the Framers’ intentions, and subsequent legal and historical prece-dent, Senator McCain’s birth to parents who were U.S. citizens, serving on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936, makes him a ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ within the meaning of the Constitution. LAURENCE H. TRIBE. THEODORE B. OLSON. "

April 30, 2008Congressional Record in the SenateS3645 and S3646

excerpts.

Obama is mentioned in the above pages as being natural born by virtue of being born in Hawaii. Well, that is what it says on page S3646.

What I am getting out this is that the Senate Judiciary committee tried to figure out what "natural born" meant for purposes of eligibility, and they decided that if you are born in the United States -- it does not matter who your parents are and so it is ok to become a senator or a president, and they specifically mentioned Obama in this regard.

"Historical practice confirms that birth on soil that is under the sovereignty of the United States, but not within a State, satis-fies the Natural Born Citizen Clause. For ex-ample, Vice President Charles Curtis was born in the territory of Kansas on January 25, 1860—one year before Kansas became a State. Because the Twelfth Amendment re-quires that Vice Presidents possess the same qualifications as Presidents, the service of Vice President Curtis verifies that the phrase ‘‘natural born Citizen’’ includes birth outside of any State but within U.S. terri-tory. Similarly, Senator Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before its statehood, yet attained the Republican Party’s presidential nomination in 1964. And Senator Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961—not long after its admission to the Union on August 21, 1959. We find it incon-ceivable that Senator Obama would have been ineligible for the Presidency had he been born two years earlier.

GIBSON, DUNN & CRUTCHER decided this issue for us, and the Senate went with it.

I think it needs defined by the Supreme Court or a federal court not some law firm.

“Then join hand in hand, brave Americans all! By uniting we stand, by dividing we fall!”—John Dickenson, The Liberty Song

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

"When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion - when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing - when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors - when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you - when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice - you may know that your society is doomed."—Ayn Rand

To de-stabilize the meaning. That way, when people looked up the term, no body would have the same idea in mind...yep, they'd all be a little different. Obviously the Birthers are too close to the truth and they did this to tryand confuse them. Before sending it down the memory hole never to be seen again...just like they sent Osama down to a watery resting place....

So, according to the Senate your daddy could be Putin and your mommy Saddam Hussein, but so long as you were born on U.S. soil or on a U.S. territory you can be president. All because GIBSON, DUNN & CRUTCHER said so.

I think this is probably unconstitutional what the Senate committee did with this McCain hearing.

You are full of contradictions OP. Is it being born there, only your father too? Does it say both parents, or is it some old definition where colonialism and slavery ruled and women were chattel? Is Obama not a citizen because he's black? Because ONLY his mother was a citizen? Because being born in the US isnt enough? You are complaining about a subjective term not being in the dictionary. Plus you are referring to a societal outlook long past. I hate bigots, they disgust me,...