This is a sad sad day in Kansas City. The fall of the Big 12, not only hurts the local rivalries, but it puts a serious damper on local college sporting event in this city. No more Big 12 Title game at Arrowhead. No more Big 12 Basketball Tournament at Sprint Arena. No more MU vs KU Armagedon Game at Arrowhead.

As a MU guy, I really hope that the Big 10 gives us an invitation to join. Looks like the entire Big 12 South, minus Baylor, will be invited to the Pac 10. That leaves KU, K-State, Iowa St and MU out in the cold. KU is strong enough in basketball that they should get into another BCS Conference, but KSU and ISU will be lucky if the Missouri Valley offers them a spot. Neither team has much to offer in $$$, recruiting base or large market followings.

The Big 12 should have been much more proactive in the past few years and tried to get a better tv deal, start their own network or find a way to create more $$$. It looks as though they sat on their hands for to long and all the bigger conferences are now taking advantage of the opportunity.

I'm old enough to remember somethings about the Big 8, but most of my college sports memories are from Big 12 schools, games and events that I attended. It's going to be a rough transition for me to watch MU in the Big 10. At least the next games I go to will envolve Ohio St, Penn St or Michigan.

The Bigger questions with this new Super Conferencses and their alignment together will be the future of the NCAA and will their be a new college orginization formed? If the SEC, Big 10 and the Pac 10 all aglig together and form a new college orginization, than the NCAA will go bye bye and athletes may start to receive some payment.

I am still holding out hope that They grab UTEP and maybe Houston make it the Big South Confrence or something.
I was thinking TCU maybe if it wasn't for Boise State joining the MWC.

Brings up the question of if MWC will turn into a BCS Confrence now? If the Big 12 Falls will they get the automatic Bid?

According to Joe Schad Kansas and Kansas State are looking like candidates to join the MWC which should lock up an Auto BCS big by 2012.

That's what I was assuming as well. It makes sense for KU and KSU to join the MWC and legitimize that conference. Only other option would be to join with Baylor, Iowa State, Houston, UTEP, SMU, Rice, and Tulsa and form a conference together.

That's what I was assuming as well. It makes sense for KU and KSU to join the MWC and legitimize that conference. Only other option would be to join with Baylor, Iowa State, Houston, UTEP, SMU, Rice, and Tulsa and form a conference together.

Kansas
Kansas State
Baylor
Iowa State
Houston
UTEP
SMU
Rice

The Big South?

Haha in all reality Nebraska should declare in the next few hours that they are moving the the Big 10 making it the new big 12?
The Pac 10 is now the Pac 11?
I wouldn't doubt at least 1 more team being added to the Pac so they can play a championship game.... With Boise going over to the MWC does that mean TCU, Utah or BYU become options if the Big 12 (Now Big 11) hold together without Nebraska?

Haha in all reality Nebraska should declare in the next few hours that they are moving the the Big 10 making it the new big 12?
The Pac 10 is now the Pac 11?
I wouldn't doubt at least 1 more team being added to the Pac so they can play a championship game.... With Boise going over to the MWC does that mean TCU, Utah or BYU become options if the Big 12 (Now Big 11) hold together without Nebraska?

So many questions....

I wouldn't doubt a whole bunch more teams to go to the Pac-10 and Big Ten.

Well, the Big Ten needs to officially invite Nebraska. Whenever they do, Nebraska will join. Since Texas and Texas A&M are arguing over which conference to join I don't see that happening anytime soon. I think the Big XII is all but a memory. I do not see that conference taking steps to stay together.

On the flip side, I don't see four 16 team conferences surviving for very long. The WAC was not able to survive at 16 teams due to travel issues, spreading money around, etc... Given that that is the only example that we have when a conference expands to that many teams but the bottom line is that schools want money. I feel it is best to stay between 10-12 schools for a conference due to revenue share, level of competition, question about competition, etc...

anyone else think this turns into a pissing contest and the Big East and Big XII both are eaten up? The Big East is formidable for basketball but would be eaten by the ACC and Big Televen pretty quickly, with the MWC picking up the kansas schools and the Big XII south bouncing to the Pac 10. Baylor goes to the C-USA or maybe the Mountain West gets crazy and adds them, SMU, Houston and UTEP to fill it up to 16. SEC goes after some C-USA and picks up Memphis along with USF, Louisville and from the Big East. Maybe they go for a couple ACC Schools like FSU and Miami and then couple those with Louisville and USF, with the ACC getting Memphis and a wildcard to replace those schools. The Big Telven should get Mizzou (or they go SEC), Notre Dame, Cincinatti, and Pitt to make it a 16 team conference leaving Rutgers, Syracuse, UCONN and West Virginia making them a power conference of 16. then the smaller conferences eat up the other schools and we're set. The ACC becomes the best basketball conference in america hands down, and then there are 4.5 megapowers in football.

Yea, no big deal, but the original post should be reworded. Nebraska hasn't been offered by the Big XI. Nebraska has said (have they said it yet officially?) that they would join if the Big XI invited. That's how the crazy Big XI rules work. They don't offer until teams say they would accept if offered.

Kansas should join the Big East. Not a fit geographically, but otherwise it seems like a great fit. A top basketball school with just a decent football program. Might have to kick someone out to keep it at 16, but trading South Florida for Kansas would be worth it.

Kansas should join the Big East. Not a fit geographically, but otherwise it seems like a great fit. A top basketball school with just a decent football program. Might have to kick someone out to keep it at 16, but trading South Florida for Kansas would be worth it.

The Big East doesn't want basketball schools... they have them in spades. They want football programs. If the football program comes with a nice basketball program, so be it, but the Big East wants football teams

The Big East doesn't want basketball schools... they have them in spades. They want football programs. If the football program comes with a nice basketball program, so be it, but the Big East wants football teams

The Big East can't get any good football schools, and certainly not enough to where they'd compete with the SEC, Big 10, and Super Pac 10. They should just accept that they're a basketball conference.

And yes I know that the money is in football, but there probably isn't any realistic football option that could bring them more money than Kansas basketball.

Well, the Big Ten needs to officially invite Nebraska. Whenever they do, Nebraska will join. Since Texas and Texas A&M are arguing over which conference to join I don't see that happening anytime soon. I think the Big XII is all but a memory. I do not see that conference taking steps to stay together.

On the flip side, I don't see four 16 team conferences surviving for very long. The WAC was not able to survive at 16 teams due to travel issues, spreading money around, etc... Given that that is the only example that we have when a conference expands to that many teams but the bottom line is that schools want money. I feel it is best to stay between 10-12 schools for a conference due to revenue share, level of competition, question about competition, etc...

The Big East can't get any good football schools, and certainly not enough to where they'd compete with the SEC, Big 10, and Super Pac 10. They should just accept that they're a basketball conference.

And yes I know that the money is in football, but there probably isn't any realistic football option that could bring them more money than Kansas basketball.

That's not necessarily true, but in order for that to happen, it requires the SEC to dismantle the ACC by taking Florida State and Miami. Then whether it's the Big East eating the ACC, the ACC eating the Big East, or some sort of mutual merger, they can consolidate a pretty nice football conference

If they get the 5 schools from the Big XII South, they will have a South Division (Arizona, Texas, Colorado, Oklahoma) and a Pacific Coast Division (California, Oregon, Washington). How about Southern Pacific?

That's what I was assuming as well. It makes sense for KU and KSU to join the MWC and legitimize that conference. Only other option would be to join with Baylor, Iowa State, Houston, UTEP, SMU, Rice, and Tulsa and form a conference together.

Kansas
Kansas State
Baylor
Iowa State
Houston
UTEP
SMU
Rice
Tulsa

Schad is drunk.

That conference would still not be that good football wise. Infact, if they did get an auto-BCS bid, it would be absolutely absurd and further drive the nail of the coffin for the BCS.

If Texas and Oklahoma join the Pac 10 and Nebraska has already joined the Big 10, then the Rose Bowl just made themselves a lot more money. Each one of those schools are football powers and travel very well.