May 28, 2008

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In a letter supported by a set of polls and charts — including Karl Rove's maps — Clinton makes her case.

The core of it:

That is why I continue in this race: because I believe I am best prepared to lead this country as President — and best prepared to put together a broad coalition of voters to break the lock Republicans have had on the electoral map and beat Senator McCain in November.

Recent polls and election results show a clear trend: I am ahead in states that have been critical to victory in the past two elections. From Ohio, to Pennsylvania, to West Virginia and beyond, the results of recent primaries in battleground states show that I have strong support from the regions and demographics Democrats need to take back the White House. I am also currently ahead of Senator McCain in Gallup national tracking polls, while Senator Obama is behind him. And nearly all independent analyses show that I am in a stronger position to win the Electoral College, primarily because I lead Senator McCain in Florida and Ohio. I’ve enclosed a detailed analysis of recent electoral and polling information, and I hope you will take some time to review it carefully.

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Obama has a +10% elected delegate lead on Clinton. Still she asks the Super delegates to overthrow the result of the primaries. One will have to go to Burma or China to find a similiar understanding of the principles that constitues a democracy.

If she's such a strong candidate why the hell is a freshman senator kicking her ass? She started with every advantage and the fact that Obama has even gotten this far is a testament to how strong of a candidate he is and how poorly Clinton has run her campaign. She had every advantage and she blew it.

Clinton assumes thatif shegetsthe nom blacks will fall right in place for her regardless if she steals it from Obama.The Dems can't win without the black vote so I don't see how she can claim victory if Obama gets trampled out of this.Blacks would have every right to say whites stole the election from them even though they're dems.

at - "I am disgusted by the people that have commented on this blog. Obama is a very weak candidate and never should have gotten this far. How sad that so many people have this sexist attitude. I think that your comments are hurting the Democratic Party."
Clinton is hurting the Democratic party. Best to save your pious comments for church.

HILLARY SPEAKS THE TRUTH. Which is this: her victories in the primaries (esp. in the key swing states) are far more meaningful and GE-relevant than Obama's Red States CAUCUS victories. That caucuses disenfranchizes mainstream voters, there is no question. Hence Obama's victories in these caucuses cannot carry the weight as Hillary's more substantive primary victories. She also leads the popular vote. And let's be honest, SHE IS QUALIFIED for the job, OBAMA IS NOT.

So, in other words, Senator Clinton wants to completely ignore the people who voted in the early primaries. She particularly wants to ignore the voters in the caucus states, which would include me. Ultimately her "belief" in her own electability is completely worthless. The Democratic Party has rules for determining its nominee. Obama is ahead according to those rules. That Clinton thinks it is appropriate to ignore the voters show didn't vote for her is as unspeakable as her bringing up RFK's assassination.------------------------------------------
Slap Slap..Wake up..Wake Up..you are in a dream world..you are now awake..Whew, I thought I lost you in that trance you are in..Oh, sorry..I thought I was talking to an actual human being with feelings. But, I was wrong. Stay asleep because Obama supporters dont have those.Only ice runs in those veins, so you must be ...hummmmmh...Ice people? Because you certainly dont have any respect for another human beings feelings. But, when Hillary wins the nomination, that ice will soon melt and you will all see what true courage is all about. Cant wait for that moment? oh, sorry. I have blood in my veins so I will show respect towards your candidate if he loses. I dont want to come across as one of you and have others hate me for it.

Are you kidding me? Some of the dates on these polls dates back to February.
I thought that everyone agreed that the delegate vote would choose the nominee. Now that HRC is getting stompped, so many things have to change to suit her. Is this who we want to run the White House? What if things begin to happen that she doesn't like? She'd be worse than Bush!!!!

"From Ohio, to Pennsylvania, to West Virginia and beyond, the results of recent primaries in battleground states show that I have strong support from the regions and demographics Democrats need to take back the White House"
What a widely ranging group of states. Obama's plans in Nevada, Iowa, and Virginia are nothing compared to this broad base of support that is across the country and spectrum.

It's hard to imagine that Clinton is stupid enough to believe what she's writing. Superdelegates will see through this as another attempt to portray a perception of events that are only going one way.
The generosity of her opponents, and those SDs willing to see where the primaries leave things, will only extend to the point all elections are over. When the dust settles on June 3rd, Clinton will be lagging in pledged delegates, super delegates and the popular vote (unless she selectively decides to include the vote of states who broke rules that she herself said precluded them from consideration). At that point, the speculation about whether or not she's harming the party is over; she is.
To be absolutely clear: IF CLINTON REMAINS IN THE RAISE PAST JUNE 3RD, SHE IS PRO-ACTIVELY DAMAGING THE DEMOCRATIC CHANCE OF RECLAIMING THE WHITE HOUSE.
Surely she'll see sense.

Well..
90 year old women will never get the chance to vote for an African-American president if he's not the Democratic nominee.
"Lets hope the Super Delegates truly follow the will of the voters "
Don't be overly hopeful yet. The RBC that voted to punish Florida and Michigan was stuffed with supporters of the Clintons - since there was no significant Barack presence in the RBC/DNC at that time.
And the Clintonites are still on that RBC.
So, do your poor heart a favor: Keep off the media for the weekend. Go on a weekend getaway

"The supers better put her on the ticket or a lot of her new voters are going to riot in the streets in Denver." I'm afraid a few racist rednecks, even fewer ultra-hardcore feminist deadenders, and all the people on the Clinton payroll do not a riot make. For one, the rednecks won't even be in Denver, and probably couldn't stand to riot in the same street with the feminists. As for the employees, one may spew nonsense in a blog for money is one thing, but putting oneself in actual physical danger is quite another. No, the only danger to our country is if she's forced onto the ticket since a) it would make McCain's election more likely (many people would turn out solely to vote against her) and b) would politically ******** Obama if they won (which is why it won't happen). Not to mention that a very dangerous number of people would believe she was behind it if the worst happened and Obama was shot (especially after Assassingate). We could see civic strife and violence.

We will see how much HRC really cares about people and their daily struggles. If she takes this fight to the convention, it will assure Democratic defeat in November. She can't be too concerned about struggling Americans if she keeps pushing McCain with his commitment radical Bush economic policies back into the White House. I hope she is honest with her supporters and tells them that even if she secures the nomination at the convention, she will lose the general for obvious reasons. Two months is not enough time to plan, organize, and wage a campaign to win a general election. She knows it; the Republicans know it; the Democrats know it; I just hope her supporters know it.
HRC could show her dedication to struggling Americans by assuring our nominee has the full support of her henchmen like Ed Rendell.
Personally, I think this is about much more than the presidency or assuring a Democratic victory. She doesn't give a second thought about the financial struggles people endure everyday. Heck, it took her campaign four months to figure out people are financially destitute.
Hillary Clinton is out for Hillary Clinton and her corporate sponsors.

Hey, babs101, what a great comment! I totally agree!
"I wish Senator Clinton would have a "reverse Sally Field" moment and wake up and smell the coffee. "They don't like me! They really don't like me!"

Obama is a peeved racist. That is why he's losing the white vote so overwhelmingly now. Other minorities (besides blacks) won't vote for him. People see through him, and he's as hollow as they come. You Obama Kool-Aiders should get a clue.

Hillary passing around the reality bending kaleidoscope and hoping all the super delegates will look through it and see a road for her to get the nomination. Too bad she only has one of these devices and uses it on herself ad nauseum. Howard Wolfson gets to look through it every once in a while and Bill Clinton no longer even needs the kaleidoscope to see the fuzz reality he just actually inhales yes he admits to inhaling the magic smoke now.
We have to have fun with this whole sad scene these days so tune in to late night t.v. and enjoy the jokes this couple has become.
LOL with the CLINTONS LOL again then when you get serious and come back to your senses come work with Barack Obama and take back our country from the Republicans who have been destroying it and our values for eight(8) years. BarackObama.com aplace for reality and results.
VERITAS BARACK VERITAS

I think Hillary's argument is perfectly sensible. She may very well have the best chance against McCain in the fall. It makes sense to compose a letter like this to make her case.
Unfortunately, it's like David Archuletta trying to convince Simon that he should have won American Idol. Sen. Clinton, you made your case already -- to Democrats nationwide. They heard your argument, considered it and voted for the other guy to carry their torch through till November. It's really time to make this official, and drop out of the race.

I think Hillary's argument is perfectly sensible. She may very well have the best chance against McCain in the fall. It makes sense to compose a letter like this to make her case.
Unfortunately, it's like David Archuletta trying to convince Simon that he should have won American Idol. Sen. Clinton, you made your case already -- to Democrats nationwide. They heard your argument, considered it and voted for the other guy to carry their torch through till November. It's really time to make this official, and drop out of the race.

Recent history shows that winning a state in the primary season ? no matter its importance on the map ? doesn?t guarantee success in the general election.
Here are some other examples: In 2004, John Kerry won early Democratic contests in Iowa, Arizona, and Missouri, but he fell short in all three states when pitted against George W. Bush.
In 1992, Bill Clinton captured primaries in Florida and Texas, but lost those states in the general election.
Bill Clinton also captured Maryland, Massachusetts, and New Hampshire (edit--also Connecticut) in his 1992 contest against George H.W. Bush. But he lost all three(edit-- 4) in the primaries.
In 1984 ? Walter Mondale secured the Democratic nomination over Gary Hart in part by winning large industrial states like Illinois, New York and Pennsylvania.
But in the end, he wound up winning just one state against Ronald Reagan: his home state of Minnesota(edit--also won DC).Link

PS.....Dukakis won a lot of the 'BIG STATES' in the primary cycle, but lost many of them in the general election.

At this point, Clinton is doing more harm than good. She's riding a wave of racism in Appalachian states, calling it representative of the country.
And she's disenfranchising voters in FL and MI by comparing their plight to voters in Zimbabwe. If any Democrats flee the party in November, it's because Clinton has manipulated their emotions and demonized her own national party (rather than local officials in those states).
She agreed to the delegate rules months ago, now has switched positions because she thinks doing so will favor her own goals.
FL & MI broke the rules; they were aware of it, she was aware of it. These 2 states got too full of pride, wanting to be important, and it bit them in the ass. Now they want special consideration. FL & MI: deal with it. It's your own fault.
I think Clinton's wrestling with her ego at this point.

she is, of course, completely correct in her appraisal. she has the popular vote and if it weren't for the ridiculous "fair" splitting of delegates, she would have the delegate lead as well.
her 'losing streak' was in caucus states where a thousand people supposedly represented a whole state. she DID win actual elections and in states that ARE key to winning the electoral college in the general. bill is correct as well : i've never seen such venom directed at a candidate and from her own party ! and a candidate who stands an excellent chance of winning the white house for their party, no less.
the idea that people who find barack an unacceptable candidate will suddenly jump on his bandwagon and vote for him anyway is ludicrous wishful thinking.
the nastiness exhibited here and elsewhere from his supporters are enough to convince me that i cannot choose to be associated with them in any way. i'm taking a closer look at mccain.

> Hillary talks about how 90 year > old women will never get the
> chance to vote for a woman
> president if she's not the
> Democratic nominee.
I suggest this compromise. Let us nominate the 90 year old as democratic nominee!!! This way, not only she gets a chance to vote, she also will have a chance to become president!!!.

I hope these numbers that Hillary is espousing from Rove are as accurate as the ones he was walking around with before the 2006 midterms when someone mentioned to him that the numbers didn't look look for the Republicans maitaining their majority in the House and Senate and he said something along the lines of you are entitled to your numbers and I have THE numbers. didn't work out too well for him then. No one would remember who Karl Rove was if Al Gore had a brother who was governor of Florida in 2000.

She can write to her heart's content. They have to ask theirselves if she is lying once again.
The facts speak for theirselves and as anyone involved in the political game knows, you can't use results from a primary in a general election.
While there is no doubt that she could win, as can Obama, he has played by the rules and won the elected delegates. She has not and has continued to try to change the rules to her favor.
She has become an embarressment to us all.

Let's remember the stunning increase in number of voters in the democratic primaries. McCain doesn't have a snowball's chance. Hillary knows this and continues to claw her way. However, HELLO! More Republicans will rally around DEFEATING Clinton that voting for McCain, for whom they will hold their noses.
Give credit where it is due: Obama out-campaigned, outclassed, out-manuevered and out-paced Clinton in every important measure.
Hillary, her family and followers are experiencing the agony of defeat. Let's just hope her agony doesn't turn into defeat for the Democrats in November.

Hillary has started negotiating with the Republican Party. She has (totally different and secret) charts and polls that show, clearly, that if Barack becomes the Democratic nominee, he would whoop McCain badly, with McCain taking only West Virginia, Kentucky, and a couple other states with a whole bunch of white high school dropouts. HOWEVER, her charts and polls show if she ran as a Republican against Barack, Barack would clearly be "Dukakis'd" by her. Other charts show she would have beat McCain in the Republican primary, since so many Republicans are rednecks, her primary consituency. Since the charts showed she would have won the Republican primary, it's essentially the same as having actually done it, so no problem there. She'll get .0000001% of the black vote of course, but that's about average for Republicans so no big deal. She'll carry all the bezerked delusionary Clinton supporters in the general election, which is about 55% of the non-black Democrats, and will also carry 95% of unemployed whites who shoot whiskey. She had to agree to carry a sidearm and shoot some helpless woodland creatures, and support a Republican initiative to subsidize a "buy one get one free" gun sale nationally. A final possible sticking point was Halliburton. Halliburton demanded an interview before they would agree to it (Halliburton has a secret 666,000 Republican super-delegate votes and could block Hillary's nomination). However, Hillary was able to show she owned 1,428,000 shares of Halliburton in a secret trust. Since Halliburton knew Hillary patholigically pursues her own selfish interest, they blessed the potential nominee, knowing she'd keep the pork flowing their way. So, Hillary fans, don't despair!

One day, a little girl awakened & found herself fatherless. She rubbed her eyes & saw her family villa destroyed ? even the old adobe barn that bore a target her father painted when he taught her how to shoot.
For years after (disguising herself as a boy so men would not gang up on her), the poor girl trekked through many lands ? climbed mighty mountains & Antarctic heights & traveled vast & arid salt-troughs & deep beneath the crusts of frozen seas (a hoary feat, since she tended to float) & 'cross the great Sahara & the desert of Washington DC & round-about the half-timber buildings & cobbled ways of Hornburg, Strasbourg, Rouen & the grids of Manhattan's canyoned streets & midnight light of late June's Iceland. Even did she brave strafings of airports of Bosnia & Ulster...
Then one night ? after downing a shot of rye & a beer pint chaser (for she was a real man's boy, a boy of real folk) ? she started to weep. ?Where is father? Where is home?" She fainted & fell to the tavern's sawdust-covered floor.
Ah, fainting! How sensitive, womanly. And, if I can faint, I can feint.
My garb is boyish and my hair cut like a 70's guy's. But that can make me an icon of feminist strength (though I swore off essential feminine virtue).
If I can faint, I can feint defending democracy & the franchise & equal voting rights & fair representation & even baking & motherhood &....
The Founding Fathers championed such things. I can publish a painting of me flanked by Jefferson & Lincoln ? I straddled by a noble slave-owner who gave his name to so many mixed-race progeny & the man who freed the slaves & got assassinated.
Whoops. Lincoln was Republican & lived too late to play at creating the Constitution. But hey! Who'll notice?
Yeah. Lincoln gave Blacks the vote & forgave the South. I forgive Michigan & Florida & respect their Democrat voters' primary ballots. Shall I wear a stove-pipe hat?
Alas, so engrossed in critical introspection, she mistook a plate of glass for a door, walked hard into it, knocked herself out. When she woke she stood beneath a clearest sky above the clouds & peered into the vision of a great gold gate mammothing before her. Behind the gate sat a tallish gaunt man whose beard was untrimmed & mousey brown & who wore just a loincloth.
The wee girl approached the gate & put her nose between two bars, so her eyes could be closest to the man seated inside. "Father?" she pleaded with voice cracking so it sounded like a near-pubescent boy's.
The tallish, gaunt, untrimmed-bearded, loin-cloth-wearing man rose & leaned forward hopefully, his face nearing the girl's nose reaching toward him. "Pinocchio?" the man inquired with a whisper.

Polls are just that: polls. Obama has the most delegates no matter what kind of math Hillary applies. She should not be allowed to steal this election - she needs to get used to the fact that her name brand is so yesterday.

What polls is she looking at? She is once again twisting the facts like we are all dummies and believe her "version" of current events. I can't wait for June 3. This will be Christmas in June and our present will be Hillary can STOP IT ALREADY!

Hilary cant face reality that its over.I beleive she knows she cant win,but her plan is to beat up Obama so badly that he loses,and she waltzes in 2012.I was truly undecided at the start.As a 50 plus white male voter,I voted for Obama,and with the way Hilary is acting now{like a petulant 6 yr old}I'm glad I did!

When you can't win on facts or substance, flood 'em with charts and graphs, yeah that's the ticket! Go home, Hillary, to your two multi million dollar mansions and your hundreds of millions, take a big shot of whiskey, and try again in 8 years - but next time, leave your sense of entitlement home with Bill.

Poor Hillary. She REALLY wants to be the POTUS. I feel very sorry for her.
The Clintons have been in control of the Democratic Party since the early 90s. Relinquishing that power over to someone who don't even share the same ambitions as theirs is very difficult to do.
But times change. We are dealing with a new generation of voters and voters who are tired of the same old politics that no longer works.
It's time for the Clintons to let go.

Response to: Judy | May 28, 2008 at 04:48 PM
My Mother, God rest her soul, passed away last October at the good age of 91. She did not like Hillary.
We should listen to our elders! She was a wise woman.

You guys are such a bunch of total blind morons its disgusting. Rev, Wright, the racist and minion of Fer., has a book and book tour in Oct. This will be distracting and keep the fact of Obama's racist sympathies in the spotlight. Wake up. Why do you hate Hillary so much? At least she wasn't a psuedo-kkk member for 20 yrs. Go ahead and let the Dems once again blow yet another opportunity for the white house. You can caste a vote for someone who had a psychopathic hate-monger baptize his children, but American doesn't. You can dismiss our hard-working blue-collar population as shortsighted because they don't like Obama, but America won't. You can tell them that they need to get with the program and chose your Starbucks candidate with no experience, but they don't go for leftist elites. America is not the New York Times. So go ahead and blow it once more. You cannot tell America what they should believe in. She has her own values. Sorry.

You guys are such a bunch of total blind morons its disgusting. Rev, Wright, the racist and minion of Fer., has a book and book tour in Oct. This will be distracting and keep the fact of Obama's racist sympathies in the spotlight. Wake up. Why do you hate Hillary so much? At least she wasn't a psuedo-kkk member for 20 yrs. Go ahead and let the Dems once again blow yet another opportunity for the white house. You can caste a vote for someone who had a psychopathic hate-monger baptize his children, but American doesn't. You can dismiss our hard-working blue-collar population as shortsighted because they don't like Obama, but America won't. You can tell them that they need to get with the program and chose your Starbucks candidate with no experience, but they don't go for leftist elites. America is not the New York Times. So go ahead and blow it once more. You cannot tell America what they should believe in. She has her own values. Sorry.

"Hillary Clinton explained to the crowd why she should be the Democratic Party?s nominee, but what ensued was a list of overstatements and exaggerations as she made her case. ?You have to ask yourself, who is the stronger candidate? And based on every analysis, of every bit of research and every poll that has been taken and every state that a Democrat has to win, I am the stronger candidate against John McCain in the fall,? she said."
"WHAT!!!!!!"
Trully a legend in her own mind!!!
"Ding-Dong", the witch is dead!!!
Time for the fat lady in the pants suit to clear her throat to sing her final aria!!!

When is Hillary going to GO HOME? It's clear our next President will be Senator Obama. There is NO PLACE for her in his administration. How can you advocate change and bring her and all her baggage to the ticket? When are the SUPER DELEGATES going to put an end to this? Soon I hope. Send Hillary home so we can get on with the business of getting our next President elected ! Enough is enough !

Response to Judy:
Well said! Sensible to state her case. The voters in the PRIMARIES have spoken and Obama has the majority of the delegates - end of game - this is NOT the GE. The GE is a whole new ballgame as a lot can happen between now and then - so put the crystal ball away Hillary and bow out gracefully.

I get so sick and tired of hearing the Hillary supporters making the threat of not voting or voting for McCain. That goes to show what kind of intelligence they are working with. If they decide to go that route thats ok too due to the fact that McCain will lose all the same. Now for the one who is speaking in regard to their 90 year old grandparents agreeing to the fact that they want to see hillary in office because at the time in their lives they could not vote. The question is: Would your 90 year grandmother feel the same way if it was a black woman? Probably not. So that arguement is pointless. HRC will NOT be welcomes back into the senate when this is said and done. Her senate seat will be up for grabs. She needs to watch her back for Cuamo, he might take her seat. Enough of the whining and desperation from HRC. Go away already! Her and red faced wag your finger Bill. Can you believe that? Talking like he is chastising someone. Yes, they need to be booted back to arkansas or new york!! *swift kick*

This woman is a disgrace! All she wants now is to go in history as the "greatest WOMAN" that the DNC stole the election from her. She has all the charts to proof that she is the BEST IN EVERYTHING but because she is a woman...they don't want to give it to her!!! Because she is a Clinton she needs to get everything but nobody likes her...but the "poor people, the whites, and the old. Those are the ones that make the whole USA to win...and Obama does not have that...Poor Woman she needs to wake up and smell the roses!!!

Given that we share a border and American policies greatly influence Canadian policies (we have troops in Afghanistan who are doing much of the heavy lifting as Bush decided to fight a two-front war) I have taken a particularly keen interest in the presidential race this year. The world doesn't need another 4 years of Bush.
But what is really interesting about the democratic fight has that underdog has come and whipped the snot out of the Clinton machine. Two thoughts here 1) The Clinton's are not rookies to the political landscape, they were supposed to know the rules of the game better than anyone else....now we are talking about counting the popular vote and not the pledged delegates? 2)Clinton focused on a big state strategy, she didn't even campaign in the 11 or 12 states which Obama won following Super Tuesday. Prior to her stunning loss in Iowa she didn't even think that these states would matter in the grand scheme of things. But now we are talking about letting every American vote? America she wouldn't have come to your town had she wrapped up the nomination on Super Tuesday why can't you see that. Does anybody remember the "Meet me in Texas" line?

The good news is that by staying in the race long past her "use by" date, Hillary will have ended
our long night of "Clinton Torment" forever. No more crooked finger-wagging and no more pantsuits. Good ridance to Arkansas trailer trash.

so, okay... clnton can win some states. woman - so WILL obama...carry the general election! and what's with you (Ms sense-of-entitlement)Obama is the presumptive nominee - so back off with your unrelenting ambitions that threatens a likely great presidency - a la Obama.

HRC Supporters- Karl Rove and Co....that is where she is getting her information from? So the puppeteer is actually the puppet to Rove? Right? Don't worry, OB supporters are scratching our heads also. To think she would send this document to the Superdelegate's with maps defending her position as GE winner with a Karl Rove & Co logo's!

If this is the best case the Clintons can make they should suspend the campaign late next week. A better case could have been made if they had left out the claims that are easily debunked. Who did they think they were trying to convince? The Supers aren't like the uneducated voters they have convinced of these arguments. A little bit of truth with hat in hand would be better than a whole bunch of bs. This is well written but substantively weak. Just 45 more delegates for the Obama campaign and we can start preparing for a grand convention in August. It will be spectacular.

I know a woman who was shocked that I voted for Obama in the NC primary. She said, "Hillary's smart!" Well, so was Al Capone. Why can't her supporters see through her? Everything she says and does indicts her character at a fundamental level. I never her liked her for precisely that reason, but this campaign has shown the true depth of her "moonshine" in ways I could never have imagined. She has more than confirmed my worst assessments of her utter lack of character and integrity. Hers is a marriage of political convenience. She's married to a horrible male chauvinist who showed absolutely no concern about how his lies about his relationship to a young intern could affect her. Yet some women still worship him and Hillary, while she stays with the bum only because her power trip demands it.
She's also way too politically savvy not to know what the implications of her reference to RFK's assassination were. She banks on her fanatical supporters' built-in perceptual filters to bail her out every time she does that. She's highly aware that he has had unusually tight security from very early on precisely because of that threat to a first-time black potential nominee. She's got no conscience at all. I couldn't believe the caller on NPR today that thought the press was making too much of that. I am white, but have good relations with African Americans in my community. There is a pervasive fear among them that it will happen once again. That was clearly intentional. She knows that very well, and she also knows that in such a context anhy reference like that is totally off-sides.
And finally, let's all figure out how an honest, upstanding, intelligent woman like Hillary managed to forget she wasn't shot at in Bosnia. I guess that qualifies her in spades, huh?

I know a woman who was shocked that I voted for Obama in the NC primary. She said, "Hillary's smart!" Well, so was Al Capone. Why can't her supporters see through her? Everything she says and does indicts her character at a fundamental level. I never her liked her for precisely that reason, but this campaign has shown the true depth of her "moonshine" in ways I could never have imagined. She has more than confirmed my worst assessments of her utter lack of character and integrity. Hers is a marriage of political convenience. She's married to a horrible male chauvinist who showed absolutely no concern about how his lies about his relationship to a young intern could affect her. Yet some women still worship him and Hillary, while she stays with the bum only because her power trip demands it.
She's also way too politically savvy not to know what the implications of her reference to RFK's assassination were. She banks on her fanatical supporters' built-in perceptual filters to bail her out every time she does that. She's highly aware that he has had unusually tight security from very early on precisely because of that threat to a first-time black potential nominee. She's got no conscience at all. I couldn't believe the caller on NPR today that thought the press was making too much of that. I am white, but have good relations with African Americans in my community. There is a pervasive fear among them that it will happen once again. That was clearly intentional. She knows that very well, and she also knows that in such a context anhy reference like that is totally off-sides.
And finally, let's all figure out how an honest, upstanding, intelligent woman like Hillary managed to forget she wasn't shot at in Bosnia. I guess that qualifies her in spades, huh?

I love the folks on her who say why do we hate her so much? Poor Hillary. She's been disrespected. Give me a freaking break already. It's sad that Hillary supporters just don't get it. WE THE AMERICAN people have CHOSEN not to ELECT Clinton as our nominee. It's that freaking simple. Stop being a bunch of sore losers and whiners and get behind Obama. We are ALL DEMOCRATS in the end you fools.

NONE of you "get it" do you? All you whiny dweebs in the urban areas. Neither Hillary NOR Obama has a snowballs chance in hell of winning the election in November. You "city people" always forget about the fly-over states, and they outnumber the left and right coasts. The Super Delegates know that neither of these two is electable. And so do the party leaders. They are trying to figure a way to nominate a third candidate. Here's what will happen, Obama will pull a "Howard Dean" and self-destruct prior to the convention. Hillary will be offered the VP slot behind a different nominee if she steps aside now. So who will the actual nominee be? Don't know yet, but mark my words, it will be a lilly white male. You may think it sad, but it is true. The movement has already started. PAY ATTENTION PEOPLE!!

Hilary you are acting like a Republican, not listening to the voice of the people (Democrats). It is time for you to get out of the way and let the true face off between party nominees begin. You are embarassing not only yourself and family, but the entire party. Because you have a right to run, does not make it right to run.

"You guys are such a bunch of total blind morons its disgusting."
Whoever wrote that needs to take a good look in the mirror. "He that accuseth..." People make stuff up during campaigns, and people draw all kinds of dumb conclusions on the basis of nothing but absurd hearsay and goofy associations that require no brains to buy, just stupid prejudices and dumb gut feelings based on those same prejudices.
I'm a 64-year old white man who has good relations with African Americans and some close friendships with some of them. I also know something about African American history in this country.
I love my country, but I'm not proud of a lot of things it does. Anybody who is doesn't know very much about what's really going on in the name of our country and that never makes it into the headlines of any major news outlets. A lot goes on underground with official sanction that then gets covered up and some poor scapegoats that did the dirty work have to pay while the order givers get off free and even get promoted or acquire high office.
If you think this is leftist garbage, you don't have a clue. I'm a moral and fiscal conservative and believe strongly in the fundamental principles put in place by our country's founders, but these are being ignored and have been for a long time.
We need to take our government back from the international corporate interests that have actually been running it for a long time. Hillary is as corrupt as any, and so is her husband, way beyond his non-existent sexual ethics.
The kind of brainless, brainwashed garbage that calls people idiots because they don't swallow stupid emails that anybody can write calling Obama a muslim, etc. along with just plain, dumb, old-fashioned racism is what got Hillary her wins in West Virginia and Kentucky. I'm grew up in Tennessee, so I'm not trying to say that people in these states are all somehow inferior. I love the south and live in the south now. There are lots of dingbats everywhere, but in some places there are more than others.
The modern definition of a leftist these days in most media outlets when it comes to the practical bottom line of how things are actually reported is simple -
Leftist: Anyone who tries to reveal anything the international and U.S. corporate establishment doesn't want the public to know about.
Just remember that these same corporate interests own over 90% of the media, and the Bu****es have allowed the buld of that to reduce into five total owners. So let's see if we can wake up and finally get it! Quit swallowing the mindless swill that anyone that anyone with half a brain and a political motive can write and spam everyone with and anyone with half a brain should be able to see through.

imagol4 I am sorry to inform you but this is not some wild movie. This is real life. No such thing is going to happen. Mark MY words. Everyone in the US is not afraid of the first black president. Many of us welcome it tenfold. This is what I predict. I predict that HRC will go back to the senate with a very cold welcome. Right now preparations are being made behind the scenes to have her removed from her senate seat via a opponent vying for her seat. This male will win. Cuomo comes to mind. Whomever it is has dark hair. HRC has bitten the hand that fed her. HRC supporters seem to be living out some kind of hollywood movie. Time to change the channel. The democratic people have spoken in a loud voice with a big BOOM!

Someone on this blog said: Hillary really does have a chance to be the nominee.
I say: Didn't anyone ever teach you that cheaters never win? Just ask the people who stole the election for GWB in 2000. Ya get what ya pay for. And we are not gonna pay Hitlery.

Hillary supporters by the millions have also poured their hearts and money into her reaching so far. Yes she has had to loan to her campaign. But her victory in Virginia and Kentucky has shown her resilience. She may not win the nomination. But the democratic party needs both Obama and Hillary together on one ticket to defeat McCain. Believe me neither Hillary nor Obama alone can win against McCain. The all too powerful lobby that support the Republican machine will once again spend millions and even cheat to put McCain in. However there is a slim chance that with the united forces of Hillary and Obama they can overcome the obstacles and get into the White House by a slim margin. But we need to put pressure on both hillary and Obama. If Obama wins then Hillary should be the V.P and if by some miracle Hillary wins then Obama should be the V.P On to victory.
I also strongly believe that Florida and Michigan must be counted but the only right solution is to have revotes or new primaries where voters return to the polling booths to show their true preference either for Obama or Hillary. First of all the rule was silly to start with. Then no one campaigned in those states. And Obama for whatever reason took his name off the ballot in Michigan. Anyways just what was DNC smoking to have made the stupid mistake ? There is no way Florida and Michigan can be excluded. That is like committing a suicide. Those voters are too important to exclude. But just splitting or allocating votes is not the right solution. Why should Obama or Hillary be afraid to face the voters the right way in those states ? But any revotes must be done quickly. If it is done by mail proper procedures must be in place so that there is no cheating or problems.
Ideally it would be better to let the voters go to the polling booths to recast their votes with both Obama and Hillary's names on the ballots.
Ultimately whatever happens the end result should be a dream ticket. It will be a huge mistake for either Obama or Hillary running against McCain. Bush and the republicans may be at their lowest ratings but that does not mean that McCain and the Republican machine cannot win.
If the democrats are smart and if important democratic politicians are smart they will pressure for a dream ticket.
I do not think that the differences that are present right now while the campaign is still on will cause any problems once the nominee is decided and once the dream team is formed and once the real campaigning starts against McCain. And by dream team I mean either Obama-Hillary or Hillary-Obama.

Good grief--Forget the polls , the federal election commission shows the Clinton campaign in tremendous debt and outfundraised by Obama in Kentucky, New York, and all the states she is touting success in. This is a joke. Why are the superdelegates allowing her to make a mockery out the Democratic primary system? Obama won the nomination fair and square and all the Clinton campaign has done in response is fibbed, exaggerated, overstated, race baited their demographics. Her demographics will not decide who is President. The Governor of New York has even thought Senator Clinton to now be pathetic in her quest. Many of us have life time dreams we cannot accomplish. That is not the DNC's problem. Obama had better get tough on her to put an end to this.

imagol4, we don't have to wait very long to find out just how wonderfully insightful your dreamy visions are. I recommend you go inform yourself on the rot that's really taking place in this country before you indulge in more amazing flights of fantasy. What you're imagining is cleaner, nicer, and far less scary than the reality most of us here hope Obama can help us change. But as Obama himself says, we've got to be on board for it to happen and that means we need some practical understanding or at least be open to it to the point of developing the political will that he will need to actually make the changes that have to happen. Otherwise we're all in some truly deep doo-doo.
Take a peek at this link if you want to have some little clue of what I'm talking about.
http://play.rbn.com/?url=demnow/demnow/demand/2006/feb/video/dnB20060215a.rm&proto=rtsp&start=29:31
I'm typical Tennessee Scots-Irish, but I've traveled in Europe and Latin America a lot and can converse to some degree in French, German, and am completely bilingual in Spanish. I mix well with other cultures and I'm a curious son-of-a-gun, so I find out about what's going on and how others see us. I've done a lot of research to reject or confirm what I've come across. I've been doing this for decades. We need to wake up! The resentment that a lot of third world countries have toward us is not because they "hate us for our freedom". That's total BS. We play a lot of dirty pool in the world for the lovely folks who pay for our political campaigns.
On the other hand, to the leftist or Marxist thinkers I've run across hear and in other countries, I always have a very telling question that no one has been able to answer intelligently so far: If you could turn of custody of the military, economic, and political power of the United States to any other country, who do you think would be a better custodian than we have been in the U.S.? That stumps them every time. So we're the least bad representative of the human condition, maybe, but does that make our behavior always righteous and moral? I personally don't think so.

It blows my mind that I have yet to hear New Yorkers demand that Clinton return to NY to do the job for which she is being paid! In a perfect world, wouldn't it be cool to mandate that politicians be required to resign their current offices before campaigning for new offices. Wouldn't that be a breath of fresh air for us?

Don't you Dems get it?
You still OWE the Cintons....you
will ALWAYS owe the Clintons...
the world owes the Clintons...
and, let me be clear, God and
history owe the Clintons. To vote
for an empty man is a travesty. You OWE it to Hillary....now that
you've gotten the word...you can
go back to American Idol reruns.

Funny how a lot of Dems here are just now admitting that we repubs were right about Hillbillary all along, and they're now saying many of the same things about her that were said by us years ago...
Now, If they'd only see the light about St. Barack......But, not until after he gets the nomination(heh,heh)

They just won't go away!!! If she manages to pull this off,I'll lose all faith in the democratic process! Bill and Hillary will do anything to win--scary stuff. How on earth can anyone respect this slimy couple??

gallup helped her out. the people who say she would have won the dem primaries if this were the case, clearly don't know much about election politics. obama cannot carry the base. that's his problem. too many clinton people defect. that's life. deal.

FLA and MI votes should count..this is a Democracy. The DNC is screwed up! The DNC Obama supporters all lost their presidential bids..Kennedy,Kerry,Dean,McGovern,Edwards,Richarson etc.. .. Carter had a non stellar 4 yrs..Core Democrats remember prosperity and a balanced budget during Bill Clinton's 8 yrs!! Are you people blind! If Hillary is not the nominee, the Democrats will loose '08. You are backing the weaker candidate. The media/DNC have been rude to the former First Lady and 2nd term Senator! She has won the debates, the popular vote and the key swing states and she has a track record and will work her tail off.IT is who can beat McCain! Think about the pastcandidate/nominees above and why they did not get elected!! 30% of Clinton supporters will not support Obama because he doesn't have enough exp and doesn't represent core Dems of the swing states.

Right now Hillary and her supporters are living in lalaland. Nobody has campaigned against Hillary in over a month. Of course she is better in the polls than she was a month ago. But she is still not consistently ahead of Obama who is taking fire from Hillary and McCain. The general election matchups are fantasy matchups now because Obama and Clinton have not secured the nomination. In the only polls were there is a real matchup between Obama and Clinton Obama is winning by an average of 10 points.

Hillary is smart, strong, resilient, and the best choice to lead our country. She is experienced and I know she would be a great president. Obama is too inexperienced, and it shows more and more each day. Hillary is very smart. Watch and listen! Go, Hillary '08!

USING EXCUSE TO BE A PRESIDENT IS NOT A GOOD LEADERSHIP QUALITY.
YOU LOST, THE MATH IS NOT THERE!!!
ACCEPT THE FACT AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE WITH BILL!!!
WHATEVER, HIDDEN AGENDA YOU HAVE
IT WIIL NOT HELP YOU!!! YOU HAD THE PRESIDENCY IN YOUR POCKET 6MOTH AGO; YOUR CAMPAIGN UNDERMIND/UNDERHANDED SEN.OBAMA.
PEOPLE SAW INTEGRITY/HONESTY IN HIM THAT IS WHY PEOPLE VOTE FOR HIM.
DURING THE DEBATE WITH THE OTHERS 6 OR 7 MONTH AGO SEN.HILLARY BODY LANGUAGE TOWARDS SEN.OBAMA WAS LOOKING DOWN AT HIM WAS NOT TOO GOOD AT ALL, EITHER SHE GAVE HIM HER BACK OR WHO ARE YOU WHERE DID YOU COME FROM OR NOT LOOK AT HIM WHEN HE RESPOND TO THE QUESTION THAT WAS ORGINATED FROM HER ANSEWER.
BADLY, MISS CALCULATED THE STRENGH OF SEN.OBAMA!!!!!!!!

No "Hillary Hating"... No "Obama Bashing"...
Let's JUST TELL THE TRUTH...
1.) MI and FL CHOSE TO NOT ABIDE BY THE RULES, were TOLD AHEAD OF TIME "IF YOU DO THAT, YOU DON'T COUNT", and they CHOSE TO BREAK THE RULES ANYWAY.
2.) CLINTON AND OBAMA AGREED IN WRITING THAT MI & FL & THEIR DELEGATES WOULD NOT COUNT.
3.) It's only fair that MI and FL accept the penalty which the DNC HAD ALREADY TOLD THEM IN ADVANCE THEY WOULD RECEIVE - your primary results & delegates won't count. It's not some unfair surprise - DNC told them ahead of time "this is what we will do", and MI and FL chose to do it anyway.
And no offense to all of the respectable and devoted Clinton supporters - but let's just be honest about this. She was completely okay with not counting MI & FL months ago. That doesn't make her any better or worse than the other candidates. But now that she needs the votes, she's making it a big deal.
Please don't assume I'm a "Hillary Hater"... all I'm doing is telling the truth. There are a LOT of things about Obama that I'm not happy with either!
We should all look at things honestly, and not through the lens of "Whatever-he-or-she-did-is-alright-because-that's-MY-candidate!". We're more devoted to "Clinton" or to "Obama" than we are to "what is right" versus "what is wrong".
AND THAT IS LIKELY THE GREATEST TRAGEDY OF ALL...

No "Hillary Hating"... No "Obama Bashing"...
Let's JUST TELL THE TRUTH...
1.) MI and FL CHOSE TO NOT ABIDE BY THE RULES, were TOLD AHEAD OF TIME "IF YOU DO THAT, YOU DON'T COUNT", and they CHOSE TO BREAK THE RULES ANYWAY.
2.) CLINTON AND OBAMA AGREED IN WRITING THAT MI & FL & THEIR DELEGATES WOULD NOT COUNT.
3.) It's only fair that MI and FL accept the penalty which the DNC HAD ALREADY TOLD THEM IN ADVANCE THEY WOULD RECEIVE - your primary results & delegates won't count. It's not some unfair surprise - DNC told them ahead of time "this is what we will do", and MI and FL chose to do it anyway.
And no offense to all of the respectable and devoted Clinton supporters - but let's just be honest about this. She was completely okay with not counting MI & FL months ago. That doesn't make her any better or worse than the other candidates. But now that she needs the votes, she's making it a big deal.
Please don't assume I'm a "Hillary Hater"... all I'm doing is telling the truth. There are a LOT of things about Obama that I'm not happy with either!
We should all look at things honestly, and not through the lens of "Whatever-he-or-she-did-is-alright-because-that's-MY-candidate!". We're more devoted to "Clinton" or to "Obama" than we are to "what is right" versus "what is wrong".
AND THAT IS LIKELY THE GREATEST TRAGEDY OF ALL...

She's as nutty as a fruitcake. I hope she and Bill get counseling and medication soon. She is not ahead of Obama in Gallup polls...she is not ahead of Obama in any poll I see on Real Clear Politics. She is also behind in the candidate Democrats want in the country as a whole, in favorable/unfavorable rankings, in who is more trusted, and in who is more honest. Does she think the superdelegates do not have access to the Internet, or think they can't read? Fact is, the superdelegates know the Democrat candidate will win this year, with Bush pulling the lowest ratings ever - EVER - for a President, and the Republicans running a candidate that has stopped being a "maverick" and turned into a clone of Mr. Bush. As poisonous as she has been, with her comments that she and McCain are fit to be Commander-In-Chief, but Obama is not, or that she can win - implying openly that she thinks Obama cannot, she has embarrassed the Democrat Party. The supers have no reason to give the nomination to one who has not earned it, and has not been supportive of the Party, when they have a candidate who has won it and is exciting the country and the rest of the world. I have decided one can only feel sorry for her. There is something seriously wrong with her; she was a smart woman once, so she must be ill. I think the Clintons have felt themselves to be the victims of a "conspiracy" of some sort or other for so long they just don't know how to live or see clearly in a non-paranoid world.

Charleshollywood@hotmail.com
If the Dems buy into the prejudices of the medea and their bias against Hillary Clinton, they would be buying into the Republican plan to see Obama as the one to face their own nominee. The Republicans have had this plan all along and with the craftiness of some reverse phsychology and playing smer the Clinton campagin card, they seem to be enrout to yet another White house. It is the same game played against the Dems against Kerry and against Core. Even when people know in their hearts that Hillary is best to beat John McCain, many remain blinded ny these tricks. It is unfortunate but it is working. Most of us now realize that we lost a good president in Al Core, and in John Kerry. We are about to loose another in Hilary. It is not to say that Obama is not good, no far from it We have two candidates whao are far more better than any the Republicans has put up. and we have the cards to our favour this time around. All of that will not matter come November. The Republicans are the Masrers of this game. They surely can make a good man look bad, but not a good woman. That they have no clue how to go about.

Hillary says that ignoring the voters in the Florida and Michigan primaries
constitutes a huge injustice. Okay, Hill let's accept your position. If so, wouldn't it be an even greater injustice to ignore the total result of the primaries throughout the country? Wouldn't asking the supers to ignore the will of the voters also be a morally bankrupt action?
The good thing is that these sorts of tactics are so ridiculous and desperate that even Hillary supporters are shaking their heads in disgust. She's going to alienate everyone so much so that Hillary democrats will turn to Obama with a sigh of relief.

I am a female and I am not in dire need to stoop to such low levels Please Hillary Stop you make women look weak. If Hillary is in this race for Americans give some or all of that money you are using for your bull to the poor. You could pay a lot of Dr bills and buy a lot of people gas to get to work. And feed the hungry. She is self centered.

I love to read these posts by all of you OBOMBERS. First off we are AMERICANS. We vote...we don't caucus. Your Boy won a bunch of caucus states that'll go Republican in November.
It amazes me that all of you nut cases talk about the will of the people. Why is it that the PEOPLE voted Hillary in MA and Teddy and Kerry jump on the Obama train? Aren't they going against the will of the people?
Hillary will win the popular vote and if the moronic DNC didn't give every kid a trophy and awarded the winners all of the delegates she'd have routed his ass.
The greatest thing to see in this primary was a Black Candidate trying to suppress the vote.
You guys just keep on gloating and running your mouths. If your JFK wanna be and his America hating wife (ever notice she tries to dress like Jackie) does win the primary...all of us blue collar McCain democrats will kick your ass in the fall.
The only way Hillary loses is if she and President Clinton campaign for this punk.

Hilliary's epic defeat is at hand. Fortunately in the process we have been exposed to her true nature.....Republican Light. Not many politicians started with her advantages and squandered them. Nobody should be surprised that the self described "Goldwater Girl" chose to quote Karl Rove in order to persuade Democrats! I hope she didn't pay too much for her that advice.

To this poster - " love to read these posts by all of you OBOMBERS. First off we are AMERICANS. We vote...we don't caucus." >>> Maybe this is the first election you have been really interested in, so you don't know this, but we have ALWAYS voted and caucused exactly the same way we did this year. Clinton's husband won the nomination under exactly the same system that won the nomination for Obama this year.

Check out how easy it is to instantaniously re-write McClellan's book excerpts about Bush for Clinton if she pulls this off.
Bush (Clinton) and his (her) team sold the Iraq war (election) by means of a "political propaganda campaign" in which contradictory evidence was ignored or discarded, caveats or qualifications to arguments were downplayed or dropped.
Everything became about manipulating sources of public opinion to the president's (Clinton's) advantage.
Presidential (Clinton's) initiatives from health care programs to foreign invasions (obliterations) are regularly devised, named, timed and launched with one eye or both eyes on the electoral calendar.
(She) misled the country about the reasons for going to war (staying in the campaign).

In answer to this post "After saturday and the DNC raises the 'magic number"...neither candidate will achieve that number after the final primaries... it's not who gets the closest to that number... it will be up to the superdelgates to decide... the superdelegates could have already put Obama over the top...but they haven't... start sweating Obamamites... Hillary really does have a chance to be the nominee.
Posted By: | May 28, 2008 at 12:20 PM"
>>> The supers have some remaining respect (although dwindling daily) for the historical part the Clintons have played in the Democrat Party. The are giving HRC until 6/3 or 6/4 the chance to decide to suspend her campaign herself and start backing the Party's candidate, as she has said she will do. If she doesn't suspend her campaign, she will have lost that last chance and the supers will have to push her out. Obviously it would be nicer for all if she took this last chance to show any form of graciousness, but if past behavior is any indicator, she will not. One way or the other, it will be over for her on 6/4.

Willa, Why dont you send us your resume so we can judge whether or not you have accomplished enough to make someone whos opinion carries weight. You know, have you been there? Or are you really just an typical white or black person who quits when it gets tough. Hillary is the only electable democrate check out new RCP analysis of Obama's coalition and it likely chances in the fallhttp://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2008/05/a_review_of_obamas_voting_coal_iii.html
Go HIILLARY!

Seriously, she has missmanaged money, lied about being fired on by snipers (sory thats not a mistake, saying you were in Serbia when you were in Bosnia is a mistake, saying someone shot at you when they didn't, that's a lie), made a bunch of unthoughtful comments, made and refuses to admit fault for a bad vote regarding the war in Iraq (it was Bush's fault), wants to change the rules to suit the outcomes she desires (like when Bush needed to wiretap without warrants), surounds herself with people who give her bad advice (like all 3 itteratins of her campaign staff) and she uses cooked up stats to make a case why she should win. What exactly is different about her and Bush?

On Obama's church from the American Thinker (I just read this on RCB blogs); "Just one nugget from the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Instruction on Certain Aspects of the ?Theology of Liberation':
"...it would be illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them (liberation theologies), and to accept elements of the marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the (Marxist) ideology, or to enter into the practice of the class-struggle and of its marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads."
- (Author: Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect, now Pope Benedict XVI; written in 1984)....
"Understanding that black liberation theology is Marxism dressed up to look like Christianity helps explain why there is no conflict between Cone's "Christianity" and Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam." They are two prophets in the same philosophical (Marxist) pod, merely using different religions as backdrops for their black-power aims."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberation_theolog.html

On Obama's church from the American Thinker (I just read this on RCB blogs); "Just one nugget from the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, "Instruction on Certain Aspects of the ?Theology of Liberation':
"...it would be illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them (liberation theologies), and to accept elements of the marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the (Marxist) ideology, or to enter into the practice of the class-struggle and of its marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads."
- (Author: Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, Prefect, now Pope Benedict XVI; written in 1984)....
"Understanding that black liberation theology is Marxism dressed up to look like Christianity helps explain why there is no conflict between Cone's "Christianity" and Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam." They are two prophets in the same philosophical (Marxist) pod, merely using different religions as backdrops for their black-power aims."
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberation_theolog.html

I love all the - "Judge Obama by what he says, not those around him" - talk. At what point do his voluntary, long-standing, adult choices actually cast a reflection on him? The guy goes to a radical, marxist-oriented, anti-American church. He goes there for 20 years. He give money. He publically states that the wing-nut pastor is his mentor and names his book after his sermon.
Is this guy accountable for anything? Is there not some point at which these things say something about his radical worldview and/or extremely poor judgement?

Come on, Democrats! STOP belittling each other's candidates. We have to get together and vote for the party's nominee in November, unless we want to see McCain in the White House. Do we really want four more years of what we've already had eight years of?

If she hasn't been able to win enough delegates until now playing by the rules why does she keep insisting that she is 'electable'? She is 'electable' only in the states she has won: 17. That is not even half of the USA states!

I like how Zbigniew Mazurak and Gayle in Oregon spew accountability for ones actions, decisions, words and associates and at the same time support Clinton who represents none of those attributes. Do you feel conflicted at all by that or does Gayle need me to supply a link to a website to tell her she needs to feel like an idiot. If so go to www.gayletheoregonmoron.com

the only reason she is still in is so she can try and erase her debt if she quits she has to stop fund raising at convention time if she continues she can raise beyond that date. I still dont understand why in teh world anyone would listen to her so she won a few in these last few primaries but Obama has won a large majority of all the states bow out, when will this b@$#h just shut up and color

I am a would you would concider a bit of a redneck woman, my husband is a real bubba, we both voted for Obama. So did our son. As a female I am sad to see her acting like this, poor poor Hillary, everybody is picking on her. The press is not being fair, She is a victom of sexism, wha wha wha.. Go home Hillary and take Bill with you. Barack Obama has over come a funny name the fact that he is black and the Clinton political power. He is the clear choice of the American voters.

My 95-year-old (white, educated, retired working-mother of 5, grandmother of 12 and great-grandmother of 7) mother is sharp as a tack and is enthusiastically supporting Obama. Although she thinks it would be great to have a woman president, gender and race are unimportant, it is the person. Hence, she voted for Obama in the primary (Wisconsin) and dearly hopes to vote for him in November.

LaurenR1, you and a few others here don't seem to get that Hillary and Bill are just plain corrupt and represent anything but what this country desperately needs. They represent the same-old-same-old. For example, they're totally in the pockets of Monsanto, a company the aggressively sues farmers for patent violation; farmers whose good, pureline seed they contaminate with their GMO pollen. They blast farmers financially AFTER they ruin their pureline seed business with their GMO pollen. They have more than 20 lawyers on staff whose job is just to go after the farmers whose crops they contaminate with wind-blown pollen. Monsanto is just the tip of the Clinton's nasty little iceberg. Yeah, they're wonderful people alright. They're smart, but don't give a fig about you, us, or anyone else. Anything they happen to do right is just a side effect of their hunger for power. We need to change that Washington mindset, because they're just two among many. And you gullible folks who uncritically swallow all the stupid hype about Obama's "weaknesses", lack of patriotism, radicalism, etc. and simultaneously fail to see the utterly fake persona of Hillary can't read human character worth a dang in addition to just simple ignorance of the facts right now about the sad realities in the political life of this country. We don't need any more liars in the executive branch, and we certainly don't any more who want power as badly as they do. They're as much like Bush in that regard as McCain, maybe more. TransitDave, as far as Republicans already knowing about Clinton, what makes you think you've had a monopoly on that? Some Democrats and a lot of independents like me have known it from square one. She and her husband are perfect examples of what's wrong with our politics. And so are McCain and Bush. The issues are not the important issue here, if you'll pardon the word play. It is character and consequent motivation to overhaul our politics toward a politics of integrity that represents OUR interests instead of corporate interests. Obama and Clinton don't have very much difference in terms of issues. They have huge differences in terms of how they go about doing things, and if you haven't been able to get that during this campaign, you've got some heavy duty fact-filtering blinders on.

If anyone has defeated Clinton, it is not Obama, but the media. The bias is unbelievable. Clinton has continuously had the support of the electorate in the states needed to win the presidency, even as she is counted out (as the polling data continues to show). Obama has had the media and the hardcore activist Dems. Obama's groups may have the most power, but they have not stifled the masses, who continue to support Clinton.

Hillary is articulate, passionate and demonstrates continually the effective leadership skills. Her candid and honest approach appeal to me, and as a woman and a hard-working, middle-class American I am confident in her ability to represent me. Much of this Clinton-bashing has more to do male insecurity and biased media representation than legitimate criticism. Only Clinton has the experience necessary to do the job, and it's too bad people can't look past the skirt to see a far worthier candidate who doesn't just mouth empty rhetoric