SCARBOROUGH: I want to show you something
else that has just come out of Philadelphia. It's remarkable. And, again, it
proves my point. I believe, by the way, I believe it's OK to insult in popular
culture, you get a free pass if you insult Orthodox Jews, if you insult Catholics,
if you insult evangelicals, I think you get a free pass from that because the
left-wing liberal elites aren't offend by it. I am, and I think most Americans
are.

But I want to show our viewers out
there something that customers of the clothing store Urban Outfitters are seeing.
And a lot of people are outraged by its anti-Christian merchandise, including
this, T-shirts showing Jesus in a crown of thorns with the quote "The Boss"
written underneath, and magnetic Jesus dress-up figure clad in underwear, with
interchangeable outfits like a devil costume, a skull T-shirt, a hula skirt,
and a sign that says "Hang in there, baby."

Doesn't that prove

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KOCH: Those are offensive.

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SCARBOROUGH: Doesn't that prove,
though, it's OK to slam the crucifixion and say it's about a couple of cheap
laughs? It's OK to have these dolls mocking Jesus?

KOCH: Because a few some schmucks
open a store and sell offensive merchandise, you draw the conclusion that society,
either on the left or the right

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HIRSEN: But Joe's point is well taken.

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HIRSEN: Anti-Christianism, there's
a free pass.

SCARBOROUGH: Bill.

DONAHUE: This same company did something
to offend the ADL recently, and I⤗m on the ADL's side. And they pulled the
offensive item.

I then wrote to Urban Outfitters,
asked them to pull this. They won't put it, OK? That proves the point. You offend
Jews, there's one level of sensitivity. You offend Catholics, that's another
level of sensitivity. By the way, there's also a magazine called "Heeb
Magazine: The New Jew Review." Now, I have to say, there are Jews who are
offended by this, as well as Catholics.

KOCH: That is put out by Jews who
are stupid.

DONAHUE: They have a whole thing
of "The Passion" in which Mary.Mary,
who is naked in this, all right? And so there's a lot of offensive stuff going
on here, and Catholics can do it as well as Jews.

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DONAHUE: But, Ed, let's face it.
We don't have an even playing field.

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HIRSEN: This is like Andres Serrano's
crucifix upside down in urine, the Virgin Mary with elephant dung. Anti-Christianism
gets a free pass. Can you imagine if they put out a doll like this with Muhammad's
picture?

I don't think they would.

DONAHUE: Ed Koch, though Ed Koch
has always stood up against anti-Catholicism. He's the best guy in the Jewish
community.

KOCH: Thank you very much.

SCARBOROUGH: All right, we're going
to have to leave it there on that very high note.

Thank you so much, Mayor Koch. William
Donahue, James Hirsen and Dana Kennedy, as always, we appreciate you being here.