Does race matters? Of course, it does! (4097 hits)

Let us first understand that race having diversity in the human race. Therefore, diversity must have significant importance, am I right. Next, is diversity good? Of course, diversity is good.

Now, let us first defined what is race. Obviously, no prudent person could deny the apparent differences just from eyeballing a Chinese person from a Black American, am I right. Therefore, race is how we see, accept and categorize these differences.

So, this is what race is; a group of people related by common descent, traits, heredity, skin color, facial form, eye shape, share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans that is passed on to the next generation.

In other words, race does matter, because it is our traits and genetics that we pass on in our own group that keep our race alive, less would become extinct. Consequentially, when you say you love yourself as a Black person you need to show it in your actions. However, we must first acquire intelligence and the first sign of our intelligence is to desire to be sovereign on a portion of this continent.

Consequentially, Blacks who contends that race does not matter is understandable since intelligence is not one of Blacks disciplines. Blacks are descendents of slaves and the old slave master was not interested in making Blacks into intelligent people, am I right. Blacks were giving intelligence sufficient to be a good cotton picker or worker. The Hebrew people were giving intelligent sufficiently enough to make good bricks out of straw, am I right.

I am here by God’s will to make Black Americans intelligent people. Our first intelligent order of the day is to desire becoming a sovereign people or have complete independence on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders. No Blacks could deny that with our present intelligence we could not effectively operate a dog kennel much less an entire country of our own. We intelligently grow to that level only after we embrace the desire to be free. But, in time to come our descendents and we are going to become one of the most if not the most intelligent race of people humanity has ever produced. Today Blacks are the apple of God’s eye as the Hebrew people were in the days of Moses.

So, let me give you an example why race matters. It is settled knowledge that particular diseases or viruses targets one race more so than another race. For instance, sickle cell anemia targets Blacks more so than Whites or Japanese people. Consequentially, if Blacks were a sovereign people, our scientists would be vigorously looking to cure sickle cell anemia rather than skin cancer, am I right.

To collaborate what I am saying I could remember when Polio affected White America in the 50s, White scientists worked day and night until they found a cure for Polio. Therefore, since Whites are sovereign people it is only natural to expect that they would take here of their own, first. Am I making any sense? On the other hand, would some idiot say that I am being racist?

So, does race really matters. Of course it does! Consider another example, Whites and other intelligent races have a journal of their ancestry tree. Some Whites could have a medical and historical journal of their ancestry dating back to when their ancestors’ first step foot on this continent, they are very proud of it, and they should be. But at the same time they would tell Blacks race does not matter and of course we would accept this irrationality since we are not intelligent people to begin with, since Whites now that Blacks are descendents of slaves and slaves does not pass down intelligence to their descendents, am I right.

The problem with this Harry, and every other post you make is the characterization as if you're talking to children.

"Obviously, no prudent person could deny the apparent differences just from eyeballing a Chinese person from a Black American, am I right. Therefore, race is how we see, accept and categorize these differences."

Obviously. You adapt to the climate you reside from, and your characteristics define this. Not the personality one exhibits. The definition of race is summed up by geology and any contest or competition, esp. to achieve superiority: the arms race; the presidential race.. racial ideology and so forth.

You want to think of everything on a local level, your definition of race is incorrect being that humans are one single race. Ethnicity is the backround you are looking at. Not "race". I would have thought you'd see the dictionary on this by now. So, in reality race does not matter because we all make up this. You want to break this down and single this out to separate ethnicity's. Theirs a huge difference.

You say the same things in every single post, that black people aren't intelligent because they disagree with your racists view points of segregation and racism. Your too ignorant to ever admit that you're wrong at anything, and I'm sure it demonstrates the bridges you have burned with family, and past friends in your life time Harry. You try and be-little and beat down the same ignorant ideology, that we're so dumb when really we aren't. We probably live better lives than you do. It's clear you don't have many friends. You need to try going to therapy Harry.. Really.

God's will is with the people, not with you. Mankind's unification, and advancement doesn't come without its trials and tribulations. Your old way of thinking just won't cut it and never will.

God created all of us. You aren't going to separate this after we achieved equality. I think deep down, you are resentful that you where born black so you're wallowing in your self hatred towards the ethnicity you where born into. You should really go back to school Harry, enroll in college. Alot has changed since the 1960's , or whenever you went to school. Until you can accept change , you'll never experience it.

"our descendents and we are going to become one of the most if not the most intelligent race of people humanity has ever produced."

No.. All of us will advance. Not one single ethnicity. But the world will. Together. Another example of your refusal to accept the common hood that all the world citizens possess. You should try and fix yourself first and foremost.

"It is settled knowledge that particular diseases or viruses targets one race more so than another race."

Based due on geographical data, hereditary diseases and family history. "sickle cell anemia targets Blacks more so than Whites or Japanese people" Ok, and Autism effects more Whites than Blacks and Asians. Their is no conspiracy. What you want a superior black race ? Their is no superior race defined by characteristics.
"if Blacks were a sovereign people, our scientists would be vigorously looking to cure sickle cell anemia rather than skin cancer, am I right. " No you aren't right, because humans have had flaws since the beginning of time. If we suffered from nothing, we would live on forever. Some things just happen like the start of life.

Polio effects every human. Not "Whites over Blacks" Your so ignorant it's unbelievable. I've never spoken to someone who's so racists in my whole life. Polio is a virus, sickle-cell is a disease.

Your last paragraph is just more racists rhetoric. First you bad mouth black people trying to rowel them up, then you bad mouth white people even more to try and rowel black people up more. It has nothing to do with race unless you are a racists. We are creating history every day, and I choose to take the high path in life where racism won't happen for my children. While you're hung up on it so much so that it's your life Harry. Accepting is the first step, and over-coming is the next. I will pray for you Harry.

Tuesday, December 1st 2009 at 5:25AM

Dear Mr. Whatley:
The problem with your argument--and this is true of all the other presentations of yours that I have read--is that it lacks supporting data.
Even so, I wish you well, and like Derek, I will keep you in my prayers.
Tuesday, December 1st 2009 at 11:22AM
Richard Kigel

Hello Derek,

I will leap over the criticism such as, “You need to try going to therapy Harry.” and get right into some things you are contesting that I could rationalize that you are wrong about.

Firstly, I stated that Black Americans are different from White Americans. Any prudent person could eyeball the differences right off the bat. The next step would be to categorize the differences, am I right.

Your response was this, “Obviously. You adapt to the climate you reside from, and your characteristics define this.”

Your reply indicates that you agree with me. That there are differences and that is precisely what I am saying from the ground floor. However, to say that the climate is why a White person’s nose is narrow while a Black person’s nose is broad is ugly genetically ridiculous. Beginning with the reformation of this continent, Blacks and Whites has been living on this continent over 500 years now and the noses of Blacks has not narrowed neither has the noses of Whites broadened. The differences are racial differences, which translates into traits, and genetic differences, am I right.

Incidentally, ethnicity and race are synonymous. So, when you say, ethnicity is the back round that I am looking at and not "race“ leads me to believe that you do not know what you were talking about, am I right. I am using the right noun word (race). The word race encompasses ethnicity as well as ethnicity encompasses race.

Anyway, Black Americans since they are a different people from Whites must have their own way to travel in life. In other words, Blacks must begin and will come to the point of having their hands on the helm of their own destiny. Otherwise, Whites will always be overshadowing Blacks.

It is not a matter of separation or racism. It is a matter of Blacks breathing the fresh air of the atmosphere and not White air if you will.

Everything that I tell you that is going to happen for Blacks is going to happen. God is inspiring and guiding me as God so did inspired and guided Moses in bringing his people out of bondage, slavery and subjugation of the Egyptian people. I do not see why it is so difficult for you to understand what I am saying.

You said this, “The problem with your argument--and this is true of all the other presentations of yours that I have read--is that it lacks supporting data.”

It baffles me that you could say something like this when I said that Blacks are different people from Whites. I went onto to support my argument by using sickle cell anemia as an example, which targets Blacks over Whites. This example would indicate racial differences besides just eyeballing. Therefore, am I not presenting supporting data Mr. Kigel to support my argument?

I believe that you, Mr. Kigel are criticizing me without presenting supporting data concerning your criticism. In other words, what you are accusing me of is what you are guilty of yourself, am I right.

Incidentally, pray more so for yourselves. God inspires and guides me as God so did inspired and guided Moses to lead his people out of bondage, slavery and subjugation of the Egyptian people.

History is repeating itself and this time Black Americans are in the crosshairs of God as the Hebrew people were in the days of Moses. God has anointed me to lead my people, Black Americans out of subjugation and racism of White America. Please pray that I be successful.

When I said that, "No Blacks could deny that with our present intelligence we could not effectively operate a dog kennel..."

The expression is merely a characterization of how far behind Black’s priorities are for themselves. I said that since Blacks are descendents of slaves and that slaves are not intelligent people you could hardly expect any intelligence to be passed on to the present generation of Blacks, am I right.

The cycle of ignorance has to be broken and the only way it could be broken is for God to intervene on behalf of Black Americans with a genuine prophet imparting intelligence as God so did the same with the Hebrew people and gave them Prophet Moses who then let the Hebrew people out of bondage and ignorance. Am I making any sense with you?

Why would you be characterizing other races anyways ? You're judging them on what premise ? Characterize yourself before you go about rants on others.

It takes hundreds if not thousands of years for DNA to change. It's not about if you believe in this form of evolution, but if you accept it. The United States is new, so there for is the most diverse nation on the planet. As time passes on, The majority will be not pure White, Hispanic, Black or Asian .. but our own definition of what makes up Americans. All of this together. This is what the United States is Harry..

Humans are broken up into "races" because that's common place with appeasement. Since the US is so diverse, I don't like generalizing "race" with it because the ethnicity's are scattered. I look at someone and I see a ethnic backround. Not a racial profile. Do you understand this?

Nobody is controlling you Harry, you can come and go as you please. Live freely to do what you like. That's what's great about America. I recommended seeing a therapist because you suffer from Post Traumatic Slavery Disorder. You where never a slave, but this was due in part by a weak psyche, harm manifested through poor mental and physical health, family and relationship dysfunction, and self-destructive impulses.

Oxygen is oxygen Harry.. Our atmosphere admits 24% oxygen that we all breathe. I know you're angry that you once breathed the same exact air that a White man did, but it's life here. Be happy.

You're so obsessed with yourself, that you don't recognize the negative impact your statements really reflect. You aren't a prophet , you aren't "smarter" than every black and white person on earth. Your sick Harry and you really need to see a councilor.. I truly do feel bad, but I hope you can learn from what I'm telling you that I only want to see you better.

Tuesday, December 1st 2009 at 1:16PM

Hello Steve,

You asked this question, “Could you operate a dog kennel? “

Steve, the hell with the dog kennel. I said that it was an expression of how far behind Black Americans is intelligent wise. Do you understand?

What you ought to be concerned about is whether race matters and if you disagree with me, then could explain your disagreement or agree with me.

Generally speaking, all that you do is mostly criticizing me. You do not understand what I am saying or you do not want to understand what I am saying.

Let me give you an example. When I said that Black Americans wants to breathe natural fresh and not White America’s air was a figurative expression of how White America has Black Americans closed in. You took my figurative expression literally, since you mentioned that the atmosphere is 24% oxygen. Consequentially, we are not really communicating. I am finding it very difficult to communicate with you. Do you understand where I am coming from?

Next, you tell me that I am angry. Anger has not anything to do with my desire that Black Americans become a sovereign people. However, the fact that you are adamantly against letting my people go, it would be you who is angry that Black Americans wants to be sovereign free on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders to pursue life, liberty, happiness and prosperity in our own way.

Somehow, I might not be making things plain enough for you to understand. But, I do not know why because I am being as simplistic as possible when I explain something to you and you and interpret it differently.

The mentioning of a dog kennel is a figurative expression I made of how far behind Black Americans is in life and in White America. It has nothing to do whether I could operate a dog kennel. Why is that so difficult for you to understand the figurative expression?

Therefore, there is no answer to the figurative expression to the dog kennel.

You are avoiding the real issue, which is, does race matters.

Now, here you are desperately trying to barge me down about a dog kennel when the issue is about race. You need to wise up Steve.

Speaking generally, you always criticize black people. I feel that if you can do that so harshly, you can take it in return. You don't have to type the same exact argument every post, of every day. It's you who needs to change this, come up with something new will you?

White America had Black America closed in. 200 years ago. Humans as a whole where not as educated then as they've been post Slavery. You need to come to grips that today's America does not reflect a "black vs white" American mentality at all in politics, so you can take your racists rhetoric baggage off here. It's old Harry. It's hard not to criticize some of the statements you make.. You show no form of education, but yet you speak about intelligence as if your posts hold any.

Your statements do show anger in them, It's hard to not type and feel certain emotions, but I'll always have hope that you can see the truth someday. Out of all the people on here, I've only seen one or two people that even take you seriously.. If you want sovereignty from something that's your view but don't force your view so much so that it becomes irritating. Black Americans are not slaves Harry you need to stop treating them like they are.

You are being as simple as possible.. you open up Microsoft Word... paste in the same exact paragraph .. copy it, and paste it into every post. That's why it all seems so identical I would imagine... you could try and bring followers to your idealism's by presenting different material once in awhile .. besides the whole "exodus" statements , or "sovereignty" of what the basis of it comes down to.. From what I gathered by your previous posts is not compellingly enough, moving me to such a degree that I even come to the process of seeing things from your perspective. Perhaps you can see things from another perspective for once.

I don't know how you do it Harry. Your one of a kind.

Tuesday, December 1st 2009 at 2:38PM

Prophet Harry,

"You are avoiding the real issue, which is, does race matters."

Race does not matter, You and I both could operate a dog kennel. I like Pits.

I think Harold would have a tough time running a dog kennel. He would be so concentrated by separating the black pit bulls from the white ones, that he'd lose track of the real responsibility's of what it takes to really operate at a cohesive level. He'd feed the black pit bulls but somehow forget about all the other dogs that live there.

Tuesday, December 1st 2009 at 3:39PM

The thing about Pits, you can breed/raise them all different ways. Mostly you got to know how to talk to them,

You said this, “Speaking generally, you always criticize black people. I feel that if you can do that so harshly, you can take it in return.”

I cannot go any further than this statement because I am confused. Your position is that you are adamantly against the sovereignty of Black Americans. How then it is that you are telling me a Black person that I criticizes Black people. I believe you are overstretching your bounds.

Please confine yourself to your position why you feel justify not wanting Black Americans to be sovereign free on a portion of this continent that we could call our very own country with borders.

Frankly, I cannot come to terms with what you're saying. It's obvious that you wont understand my statements or try to learn from what I am teaching you. But, contrary to your beliefs, I do understand what you are saying. Running the dog kennel has nothing to do with race but a analogy.

You need to understand, like I understand you that Americans live together. Observing these facts, that breaking them apart from family's will work. We stand United. I'm happy for the equality's we all share, the freedoms. Everything.

Your views on skewered, America as a whole do not want to be broken up again. We can agree to disagree on this matter. It's what I think Mr. Watley. Race does not matter.
Wednesday, December 2nd 2009 at 2:43PM

Hello Harry,

I gave my reasons, race does not matter. It was you brought up dog kennels. I said we both could run a dog kennel. You stated that Black American could not. If you don't want to indulge in a stupid and ignorant conversation then don't start one.

Okay, it seems that we are coming out of the cold that this dog kennel nonsense has no priority in our dialogue since it was just an analogy.

Now, let me give you something to think about Derek. You said this, “Frankly, I cannot come to terms with what you're saying.”

I very well understand why you cannot come to terms with what I am saying about Black Americans, slavery, subjugation and the desire to be a sovereign people or have complete independence on a portion of this continent. You neither feels the pain that I feel nor understand the psychological hurt I understand about myself and my people when I see how degraded of a people Black Americans are. Black Americans degradations are facts firmly set on the ground.

Next you said this, “It's obvious that you wont understand my statements or try to learn from what I am teaching you.”

I believe that your line of logic is backwards. Since you are not one of my kinds it is irrational for you to think that you could teach me about myself.

For example, years ago when local officials decided to established programs to deal with drug addiction, they hired professional counselors that new nothing about the problems of drug addiction to counsel drug addicts. The addicts were our rage in the official recognized the valid points the addicts presented. In a blink of an eye, the White Ivy League professional counselors were replaced with recovering addicts as counselors. The program then showed signs of success. Do you understand the picture that I am drawing for you? Well the same principle is happening between you and me. In other words, since you are not one of my kinds you cannot tell me anything about what I feel.

In fact, you have no idea how I was offended when you said that since I did not experience brutal slavery as my ancestors did their suffering shouldn’t mean anything to me. I am not an animal. I know where I came from and how I got here. I am emotionally touched whenever I see pictures of my people hanging from trees and I do not have to know them, personally. I identify with the bodies that are hanging from the trees. Does that make any sense to you? Nevertheless, it does not translate into hating White people.

I am as much touched as a Jewish person were when they saw pictures of their people in ovens during the Holocaust. Nevertheless, it does not mean that you wish people hates the German people.

So, on the contrary, I do understand your shortcomings of being unable to give any worthwhile opinions about Black Americans. So, when you say that I should try to learn from what you are teaching me, you are plumb out of your damn mind.

If you were intelligent you would have reaffirmed the reasons you gave that race does not matter. Instead, you went on to talk about the dog kennel that I use as an analogy.

For instance, there are eight words about race does not matter. However, there are 39 words about the dog kennel. In other words, you should have spent the 39 words reaffirming your reasons that race does not matter and spent no words on the dog kennel. You understand where I am coming from, Steve.

See Steve, the dialogue is about race and not dog kennel. That should not be difficult for you to understand, am I right.

So, what are your reasons that race does not matter. It matters to me since my people desires to be sovereign on a portion of this continent in these modern days and it is going to happen for Black Americans. Race mattered to the Hebrew people since they wanted out of Egypt.

I am sorry Steve, but I cannot go any further with you. I get lost in ignorant and stupid dialogues.

All that you are saying is that, “race does not matter”. You do not give any reasons or examples why race does not matter. Again, all that you do is repeating yourself; race does not matter.

So, at this point I am lost because you cannot go any further. Your brain is exhausted.

Perhaps, you are telling me that since Whites are the oppressors of Blacks and that you are White, then race does not matter to you. If you were saying this, then that would make sense to me since it would inadvertently highlight that race do matter. You have made it known that you do not want Blacks to be a sovereign people or have complete independence.

Most Blacks do not understand or see you as an adversary among them, but I do. The Bible would refer to you as a wolf in sheep’s clothing.

Then of course, from my side of the table race does matter because I am Black and I desire to be a sovereign people on the portion of this continent. I assure you Steve, complete independence or sovereignty of Black Americans is soon coming.

Maybe I am not seen as an adversary because I am not. I am sure that not everyone will agree with what I say. This I can accept but you cannot. I am not an adversary to you either Harry, just a teacher.

Of course, you would have to be my adversary since you are against what I want for myself. Should it not be common sense to you that I should know better than you should what is good for me?

If you believe that, you are not my adversary then are you for my desire to become a sovereign people or have complete independence on the portion of this continent that I could call my very own country with borders?