New York Times board member Michelle Cottle wrote a piece called 'Hillary Clinton’s Master Class in Distraction,' which advises Hillary to keep
quiet and not electrify the GOP base.

“Her clumsy comments about civility and Lewinsky, however, demonstrate that she is off her game. This kind of clumsiness reminds the electorate of
why Hillary couldn't win the 2016 election, even when so many factors were working in her favor,” McCall said. “There must be recognition [inside
the Times] that the visibility of the old Democrat guard could make campaigning difficult for the Democrat up-and-comers.”

“There must be recognition that the visibility of the old Democrat guard could make campaigning difficult for the Democrat up-and-comers.”

All this Biden baloney and Shummer and Pelosi and Feinstein malarkey needs to stop. That whole machine needs to take itself off on to a side road,
turn off it's engine and let the real liberal traffic pass it. That whole machine was incapable of defeating a fraud like Trump and if they don't shut
up and allow others to shine instead of themselves he will do it again.

So essentially you are saying the power brokers from the Clinton Obama presidencies are unable to keep up with the changing socio political climate.
That their views are so antiquated they need to be exiled from the DNC? Wouldnt this speak volumes on the judgement of DNC party members, party
donors, supporters and voters that just 2-3 years held these icons on their shoulders and in such high regard...

“There must be recognition that the visibility of the old Democrat guard could make campaigning difficult for the Democrat up-and-comers.”

All this Biden baloney and Shummer and Pelosi and Feinstein malarkey needs to stop. That whole machine needs to take itself off on to a side road,
turn off it's engine and let the real liberal traffic pass it. That whole machine was incapable of defeating a fraud like Trump and if they don't shut
up and allow others to shine instead of themselves he will do it again.

You say all that as if the Two Party + MSM System has anything to do with the interests of We The Little People.

Yes, in a way this is how I think about it. Yet to me it seems much like the old guard of the Republicans. That party was not ready for a Trump
either. Both parties seemed content to run with the old protocols for political power.

Both parties were for business as usual, just tweek it my way and keep moving. Neither party could address the rising tides of voters who were fed up
with the entire political bull#. The conservative party machine was not up to crushing the populist surge. Trump ran over them and they all had to
get in line and use him as a buffer for their own agendas. s

Unlike the Republicans, in 2016, the Democrat Party was successful in halting that tide. Bernie was on his way and the machine crushed him. This shows
to me at least that the machine in the Democrats was stronger than the machine in the Republican Party.

And yes, we can question the will of the democrat supporters and donors for backing that horse. We can consider that they are easily lined up to
believe that the way forward is unity with the party leaders. Back then, Trump was an unforeseeable wrench in the works. Well not really
unforeseeable, just ''nah, the Republican Party could not be that weak as to let a showboat Like Trump worm his way into their leadership.

Both parties were wrong wrong wrong . The Republicans now are quiet after all the things they said about Trump before he won. They are quiet for the
vary same reasons that the Dems backed Hillary, Supporters are supporters because they lack the drive to lead themselves.

Im hoping that those passive supporters in both parties can organize to toss out not only the Democrat machine but to strengthen the conservative
movement within the R party and get it back to real conservativeness rather than the wrecking ball politics of Trump.

Sorry you read that into what I said. I hate the two party system. More often than not I have voted independent candidates over my years of voting.

However, even though it is really a one party system, there are two arms of that party, the dems and the republicans.

So yes, Ig, I see it and have seen it for decades voting and hoping that somehow it could break open and we could expand our choices. Now however,
unless we can see viability from other contenders, we are stuck with this beast. And many here would be happy to do away with one of those beastly
arms, in this case here on ATS the wish would be the total disctruction of the Democratic Party. And where would that leave us. With a one party
system which we already have but with only one arm.

More talk here should be focused on other parties and other solutions other than how either of these arms can wrest control from the other.

I think most would agree with this article. The old guard are more about lining their pockets than representing true liberal principles. The same can
be said about the Right and true Conservatism. Hopefully the recent spate of young, up and comers upsetting establishment candidates in primaries
leads to a real change in the big two parties. Because right now they're pretty much indistinguishable when it comes to what they actually want.

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