Once upon a time there was a Designer called Simon Sturgess who lived in a nice shiny expression land. One day he came across a Developer named Timothy Hustler who lived in VS2008-Land. Wizard Microsoft cast a spell and they both lived together happily ever after (purely on a professional basis). The Wizard has also promised he'll magic some pizza too and possibly a nugget.

Published 5 years ago, running time 1h5m

Joel and Jeff try to avoid talking over each other while discussing data generation, full text searching, cross-site scripting, Markdown, Microsoft's Silverlight, and how to get a job at Fog Creek software.

“Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.” - Rich Cook