If I recall correctly, going into the 2012 season most experts were calling Seattle Seahawk’s receivers as one of the weaker groups in the league. Amazing how much better they became after they replaced T Jax with Wilson.

Saying Russell Wilson has more weapons?? Last I checked a d-fense doesn’t make a qb’s numbers better OR a run game. Those are in separate categories. He didn’t tie Peyton Mannings touchdown pass rookie record with outstanding receivers

Give me a break – Skins would not take Wilson over RGIII in a redo. Just because Wilson performed well with Seattle doesn’t make him a good replacement for what RGIII did in Washington last year. With Wilson, The Skins don’t make the playoffs.

For me its a toss up between rg3 and luck… But considering the draft order i would go with luck first as he fit so well with indy and bruce arians system… same with rg3 and shanahan… throw in crazy season that wilson had and this has to be the best QB class of all time…

If logicalvoice could redraft, he would have the ‘skins give up more future draft picks to move up to number one, just so RG3 could be drafted first overall, and then proceed to say that it doesn’t matter who is drafted afterward because everyone will inevitably lose to them.

Since the Colts had the first pick, I’d say RG3 would go above Luck in a redraft. Imagine what he could have done running half his games on turf instead of that awful FedEx Field. In a dome, he likely stays healthy too.

You have to understand positional value. QB, LT, DE & CB are the four most valuable positions on the field. You don’t take Kuechly that high, especially before Kalil. Minnesota doesn’t make the play-offs with Kuechly over Kalil. And if they were as successful they would be out of range for the top LTs.

Wilson is the best QB of the 2012 class. Before the draft he was the best. He just didn’t project well as a pro because of his height. Just because we were spoon fed Luck v. RG3 for almost a year, there is a perception that they are the top two. It makes for great debate in the media, but the numbers and results don’t lie. Go research footballoutsiders.com pre-draft analysis on the 2012 incoming QB. The labeled Wilson the “Asterick” because he had the highest Lewin Forcast Score ever for a college QB, but they felt he would not be drafted until the 4th round solely because of his height. The only ones who are surprised about Wilson’s success are the ones that don’t watch college football and who are brain washed by media driven narratives.

Shaun King is hilarious with the “skills” player comments. Seattle has better skills players than Indy or Washington? Who thought that before the 2012 season? Good defense, no doubt, but common. Other than Lynch, who coincidentally put up his best year when he finally had a QB, who did Wilson have? King also failed to acknowledge that Wilson also faced the toughest defensive schedule of the rookie QB’s. 9ers(twice) card(twice) rams(twice) bears, jets, and vikes. This is what matters.

The kid was just born to play QB. I wished the Eagles would have drafted him

defense does have an affect on a qb’s numbers, when the defense gets turn overs on the offrnsive side of the ball or backs the offense up to where they are punting at their own 10 to 20 yrd like makes it a lot easier to get td’s. I. E., Wilson played all 16 games and was 27th in the league passing. Less put yardtannehill han both tannehill who was
2nd of the rookies despite missing a game and rg3 who was 3rd despite missing a few games. Wilson’s numbers are alex smith like, low passing yards, low turnovers because the d puts them in such great position. Wilson by far had the best offensive and defensive teams of all the rookies, he did his job, game manager. i
Put tannehill above him because he had nothing to work with and showed much more poise and read the defense much better than most of the other rookies, plus Wilson head to head against tannehill…. 0-1

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard, anyone who knows football can understand that luck had to carry that team on his back and was asked to do way more. He didn’t have the luxury of a great running game or a defense, he had to score 25 pts a game just to win. Plus why are you ignoring that luck had a better record, 7 come from behind wins and took a 2 win team to the playoffs. Did you even watch the games?

Wow, people sure like to forget that the Colts were NOT a bad team prior to 2011. they just had the equivalent of Brady Quinn at QB. Do you hear anyone thinking the Chiefs are going to be terrible this year? No, because they have a “decent” QB.

Luck did not “carry” that team. The GM in 2011, tanked that team on purpose. Hell he was at half of Lucks games that season for a reason.

Frankly, taking a running back in the first round is a stupid waste of a pick, especially a top five for Richardson. Running backs do not have the shelf-life to justify a frist round selection on….period!

Andrew Luck would be the #1 pick if every player in the league was included in a redraft. Definitely not RGOden. Wilson would be #2 in the 2012 redraft, Luck was asked to do way more for his team than shorty. Shorty is pretty damn good though. BTW, Andylucksneck, the Colts beat the Packers, Texans and Vikings.

@indywilson
the colts didn’t beat the packers. some idiot referee gave them a win with a terrible call. Do you watch football? The texans laid down at the end of the season, and the combined win-loss total for the opponents facing the colts last year was 106-121. Obviously for everyone that has half a brain is a sub .500 record. The colts are a joke, and will lose 10 games this year. Luck sucks, he wouldn’t be drafted over Wilson or Griffin if the draft was held again.

peytonsneck18 says:
Apr 15, 2013 10:39 AM
Logicalvoicesays:hes on my redskins and is just as underrated as our QB RG3. I wish the colts had taken RG3 instead of mush mouth Luck!!! We failed miserably, HTTR-hail to the redskins

THIS IS WHY SKINS FANS HATE ON THE COLTS…….. peytonsneck is consistently commenting on how much he loves RG3 and how much he hates Luck.