QuoteReplyTopic: Prog albums recorded in the sixties Posted: November 14 2013 at 22:43

A lot but not all prog fans seem to think that King Crimson's debut album "in the court of the Crimson King" was the first "true" prog album(as in not proto prog). I do believe there are some other contenders out there though or maybe albums released at the same time or a few months later. So what I want to know is what other prog albums were recorded before the end of the sixties. They can be released later just as long as they were recorded before 1970.

Recording for Atomic Rooster's debut album began in December of 69(according to wikipedia it was recorded in Dec and Jan)so it qualifies. :) The first Hawkwind album was recorded in April of 70(when I was born ). Good call on Renaissance though.

Tangerine Dream-Electronic Meditation (recorded in October 1969)Frank Zappa-Hot Rats(released in October 1969(same day as ITCOTCK actually)" " -Uncle Meat (also released in 69)Van der Graaf Generator-The least we can do is wave to eachother (recorded in Dec. of 1969)Pink Floyd-More (released in June of 1969)

Probably a bunch of English proto bands also recorded in 69 but not released until 1970 but I'm not sure.

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- An original rare release appeared in late 1967 on Capitol, but was
pulled quickly because of threatened legal action by MGM. This MGM/Verve
release was the first popularly available version. [2]

I would mention Phallus Day by Amon Dull II, Can's Monster Movie, The Advancement's self-titled, Arzachel's self-titled, David Axelrod's Song of Innocence and Songs of Experience, the Pink Floyd albums, the Van der Graaf Generator one, COlloseum's Valentyne Suite, Zappa's Absolutely Free and Hot Rats, The Soft Machine albums, especially Volume II, Captain Beefheart albums, The United States of America album the Catherine Ribeiro + 2bis album, and I would mention Fifty Hose's Caudron and I know that I'm almost alone in this, but I consider Cream to have a been a sort of Prog band with Wheels of Fire and Disraeli Gears to an extent.. I know I have a lot more in my collection from the 60s that I consider on the prog-side, but then I tend not to use the prog designation for a lot of my music.. I could even mention various Ennio Morricone albums, but I think a lot can depend upon how loosely one uses the term Prog....

The Advancments? Do you mean The Advancement who were a US band who released one album in 1968? It's pretty obscure apparently.

Anyway, a lot of the above albums you mentioned could be considered psychedelic(maybe not all though). However, here's how I look at it. First off I don't really buy into the term "proto prog" too much although it is worth mentioning and it does have it's purpose and can even be helpful at times. However, something is either progressive or it isn't. If people want to say the first proggy prog rock album was King Crimson's debut fine they can think what they want. However, the rock based music of the sixties that was not deliberately trippy or psychedelic and had structure and diverse instrumentation was progressive no matter how you want to look at it. One album that hasn't been mentioned yet(although it is on that wikipedia list) is Family's "music in a doll's house." There's mellotron, saxophones and violins on there. Sorry but I can't think of too many psychedelic bands with saxophones. It might not have been prog in the same way as YES and Genesis and maybe it was proto compared to what came later but it was still progressive and progressive plus rock equals progressive rock in my book. Obviously it wasn't the only album to be progressive back then though.

I'm pleased to see Eric Burdon/Animals' "The Twain Shall Meet" on that
Wikipedia timeline. Quite a progressive album for its time, that
doesn't get a lot of attention. Though it does walk the tightrope
between "progress" and "acid-inspired experimental overkill", but that's
the price you pay for progress I guess.

I don't know how the heck the Zombies' "She's Not There" single made that list. Because it has organ?

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^^ Yes, instead of writing the Advancement's self-titled, I should have
said sole album to be clearer. It's pretty obscure -- I discovered the
LP selling at a neat collector's site some years ago, and then
recommended it for PA inclusion. I actually think that there is a ton of
fairly underground/ obscure music that could fit the Prog mold -- and didn't really influence the big names (part of it depends upon whether one considers Prog to be a movement, a genre, or more of an approach to making music). Popular enough to have 60 ratings at
rateyourmusic, though. Some of the album, especially the longest track I
think of as full blown prog; whereas other stuff is more groovy
psychadelia (quite an eclectic mix which is what makes it as partiaulr
proggy to my ears). Family's album is a good call, by the way, meant
to mention that one myself.

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