TeddyRooseveltsMustache:[www.thetorquereport.com image 850x566] This thing was supposed to be available soon. Police only. Wonder when that's happening?

I've heard a lot of department don't like the new Caprice because it only comes with a floor shifter. The police versions of the Taurus and the Charger have column shifters which allow for the center console to be repurposed for custom police duty with a laptop mount, radios, etc, and they can't do that with the Caprice.

Mid_mo_mad_man:It's sad to see that the end of the Crown Vic. However it's even sadder that some cities are replacing them with SUVs. I work in a city of 40,000 and they are switching to SUVs. It ticks me off.

We switched to SUVs as well. They're actually crossover utilities which basically mean they are huge cars. Better MPG than the Vics. Roomier for the deputy, easier to get arrestees in and out, can carry more equipment. Everyone seems to like them better.

TuteTibiImperes:TeddyRooseveltsMustache: [www.thetorquereport.com image 850x566] This thing was supposed to be available soon. Police only. Wonder when that's happening?

I've heard a lot of department don't like the new Caprice because it only comes with a floor shifter. The police versions of the Taurus and the Charger have column shifters which allow for the center console to be repurposed for custom police duty with a laptop mount, radios, etc, and they can't do that with the Caprice.

Delaware State Police bought a bunch of the Chevys, and New Castle County bought some too. Municipalities seem to be going with the Charger. Up in PA, they seem to have mostly chosen the Fords.

Curious:LineNoise: Infobahn: They mention "marked and unmarked" Crown Vics in TFA. I just assume an unmarked Crown Vic is a cop, period. Period, period. This has worked well for me.

In HS a friend of mine's parents had one, in white of all colors. You would just watch traffic back up around you as you drove down the highway in that thing and everyone slowly inched up on you to see if you were a cop, or just some old dude.

It also made for hours of endless fun of driving down the highway, getting right up on someone, and tailing them for a few miles watching them freak out thinking they were about to get pulled over.

SirDigbyChickenCaesar:Will miss the Vic, but as far as performance goes it doesn't hold a candle to the new Taurus.

I've got a '05 Grand Marquis. 120k miles, but I'm going to keep it running as long as I can. Powerful, comfortable, gets about 27 mpg highway. V8, RWD, governor kicks in at 95 mph.What's so great about the new Taurus?

Curious:TuteTibiImperes: I've heard a lot of department don't like the new Caprice because it only comes with a floor shifter.

M_G linked this up thread and it say the cop caprice had a different shifter. and for the reasons your stated.

it also says they have bluetooth and pandora which is asinine.

Bluetooth is cool. Anything that could possibly keep their hands on the sterring wheel is a good thing. Seem that auto accidents are their number one risk of life and limb. We should do everything we can to ensure cops are safe and not plowing into others. Cops should shoot people dead not run them over.

StoPPeRmobile: Bluetooth is cool. Anything that could possibly keep their hands on the sterring wheel is a good thing. Seem that auto accidents are their number one risk of life and limb. We should do everything we can to ensure cops are safe and not plowing into others. Cops should shoot people dead not run them over.

I ordered my Charger Pursuit with Bluetooth, and it is truly a safety improvement. Once a phone is paired with it, it is almost impossible to receive or place a call any way but hands-free. It also allows you to place a call through voice recognition... I rarely need to look at the phone or even take it out of my pocket. It should be standard in all the police cars.

TeddyRooseveltsMustache:[www.thetorquereport.com image 850x566] This thing was supposed to be available soon. Police only. Wonder when that's happening?

Already underway - there are at least four of them in the 100K-population-city nearest me. It'll be a few years before they start showing up in auctions, though, which is coincidentally also how long it'll take for one of them to show up in my driveway. Hooray for an LSx in a decent RWD sedan (about time GM had a competitor to the 300c).

TuteTibiImperes:Bluetooth is just the communications protocol, like WiFi, when your car has bluetooth the car itself acts as the headset, so you don't need the ear piece.

I imagine the majority of official communication takes place over the radio, but there are likely work related reasons to use a cell phone during the shift as well.

thanks for the info. as to work related calls yeah there may be some. say one a week. my question is are there personal calls and if so how many and for how long. i'm old and old school and feel there is almost no reason for anyone to ever make a personal call at work except at break or lunch. that doesn't seem to be the norm today.

simplicimus:SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Will miss the Vic, but as far as performance goes it doesn't hold a candle to the new Taurus.

I've got a '05 Grand Marquis. 120k miles, but I'm going to keep it running as long as I can. Powerful, comfortable, gets about 27 mpg highway. V8, RWD, governor kicks in at 95 mph.What's so great about the new Taurus?

It's a hell of a lot faster (and quicker), for one, and gets better than 16 or so MPG in the city. The turbo 6 cylinder makes more power than the stock 2v 4.6.

BTW, it's 100% worth it to get one of the programmers for the Marquis; I used the SCT on my '04 (and built a 3" single exhaust). The improved shift behavior alone is So. Much. Better. But the power bump from being able to advance the timing a tad is also nice, as is the ability to recalibrate the speedometer for different sized tires - and the removal of a speed limiter. :)

dannysauer:simplicimus: SirDigbyChickenCaesar: Will miss the Vic, but as far as performance goes it doesn't hold a candle to the new Taurus.

I've got a '05 Grand Marquis. 120k miles, but I'm going to keep it running as long as I can. Powerful, comfortable, gets about 27 mpg highway. V8, RWD, governor kicks in at 95 mph.What's so great about the new Taurus?

It's a hell of a lot faster (and quicker), for one, and gets better than 16 or so MPG in the city. The turbo 6 cylinder makes more power than the stock 2v 4.6.

BTW, it's 100% worth it to get one of the programmers for the Marquis; I used the SCT on my '04 (and built a 3" single exhaust). The improved shift behavior alone is So. Much. Better. But the power bump from being able to advance the timing a tad is also nice, as is the ability to recalibrate the speedometer for different sized tires - and the removal of a speed limiter. :)

People's necks were floppier in the 70's. 0-60 in 6.8 seconds and a low 15 second quarter mile would snap your neck back then. Now that's what a Toyota Sienna SE minivan does (0-60 in 7.0, 15.2 quarter), though it doesn't sound anywhere near as cool as the Polara. ;)

My company 2012 Charger Pursuit kinda does, even though I'm not a cop:[imageshack.us image 800x462]

/yes, of course I got the Hemi

Yeah that second side mirror will do it.

Cops on the Long Island Expressway drive all kinds of shiat. Last week I saw a full-sized Hummer with someone pulled over. But there must be some safety requirement at least in Suffolk that they have to have those mirrors, so I always look for that.

"Ford Crown Victoria has long been the favored car by police departments. When the car was discontinued, MPD bought a bunch and help onto them until they were needed. This is the last one is about to be put into service."Where is spelling this guy am like?

Mid_mo_mad_man:It's sad to see that the end of the Crown Vic. However it's even sadder that some cities are replacing them with SUVs. I work in a city of 40,000 and they are switching to SUVs. It ticks me off.

The police package Tahoe, if done properly, is actually saving money. The cost for a Tahoe is a couple thousand dollars more than a Crown Vic, the gas mileage is roughly the same, but on the backend, when a Tahoe is sold, the department is getting sometimes 4-5 thousand dollars more in trade for them than they were for the Crown Vic. My department is seeing a savings for 2-3 thousand over the life of a vehicle.

RINO:It's too bad the government killed Carbon Motors. That would have been sweet.

No. No, a thousand times no. Carbon Motors was never going to be a viable option. The unit cost was close to $50,000 for a vehicle. There is no way a police department is going to be able to afford those at a bulk rate. Secondly, they tried to add features, like integrated computers and radios, that police departments reuse each time a new vehicle is issued. Many large agencies don't even install radios in their vehicles, and have the officers use portables. Lights, siren boxes, radars, etc are all typically reused by departments when old vehicles are replaced with new ones, that wasn't an option with Carbon Motors.

Curious:TuteTibiImperes: Bluetooth is just the communications protocol, like WiFi, when your car has bluetooth the car itself acts as the headset, so you don't need the ear piece.

I imagine the majority of official communication takes place over the radio, but there are likely work related reasons to use a cell phone during the shift as well.

thanks for the info. as to work related calls yeah there may be some. say one a week. my question is are there personal calls and if so how many and for how long. i'm old and old school and feel there is almost no reason for anyone to ever make a personal call at work except at break or lunch. that doesn't seem to be the norm today.

I typicall make 6-8 work related telephone calls per 12 hour shift. There are times i'll call information into dispatch, call a supervisor to relay information that I don't want over the air, calls to Child Protective Services, prosecutors, case follow-up phone calls, etc, etc, etc. One a week? Hardly.

http://www.sctflash.com/I like SCT because they explicitly support the Grand Marquis -- unlike Hypertech, where you have to find the Crown Vic models.

I checked into it. Only red flag for me is that it doesn't support E85 gasoline, which may be a problem.

Where do you live where that would be a problem? Even in the middle of corn country regular gas is readily available. Remember, E85 means 85% ethanol, the typical gas at the gas station that's 10% ethanol would be called E10.

http://www.sctflash.com/I like SCT because they explicitly support the Grand Marquis -- unlike Hypertech, where you have to find the Crown Vic models.

I checked into it. Only red flag for me is that it doesn't support E85 gasoline, which may be a problem.

Where do you live where that would be a problem? Even in the middle of corn country regular gas is readily available. Remember, E85 means 85% ethanol, the typical gas at the gas station that's 10% ethanol would be called E10.

Well, not where I live in Texas, but when I travel to La. I see it alot. Maybe a truck stop thing or I haven't been paying enough attention.

Andyxc:RINO: It's too bad the government killed Carbon Motors. That would have been sweet.

The government didn't kill Carbon Motors. The government refused to give it a loan after examining the company and determining the loan was unlikely to be repaid, which is a part of the criteria for giving out the Advanced Technology Vehicle loans. I notice that no private lending institutions gave them the money either, so one could just as easily biatch about Bank of America killing Carbon Motors. But if the business wasn't viable, then it was really Carbon Motors that killed Carbon Motors.

They did get private investments, I thought. That's why the investors are now suing them.

My company 2012 Charger Pursuit kinda does, even though I'm not a cop:[imageshack.us image 800x462]

/yes, of course I got the Hemi

Yeah that second side mirror will do it.

Cops on the Long Island Expressway drive all kinds of shiat. Last week I saw a full-sized Hummer with someone pulled over. But there must be some safety requirement at least in Suffolk that they have to have those mirrors, so I always look for that.

Cops on the Long Island Expressway drive all kinds of shiat. Last week I saw a full-sized Hummer with someone pulled over. But there must be some safety requirement at least in Suffolk that they have to have those mirrors, so I always look for that.

...that's a spotlight, dude.

You win the thread. Congrats!/it was $150 extra to make it a LED spotlight, and well worth it

Cops on the Long Island Expressway drive all kinds of shiat. Last week I saw a full-sized Hummer with someone pulled over. But there must be some safety requirement at least in Suffolk that they have to have those mirrors, so I always look for that.

...that's a spotlight, dude.

You win the thread. Congrats!/it was $150 extra to make it a LED spotlight, and well worth it

Huzzah!I'm hoping to pick up an '03 all-black Vic that used to be a detective's car in a few months. The current owner keeps it immaculate; like, I swear he polishes all the exposed metal in the engine compartment immaculate. It also has two alternators located in two different parts of the engine for some reason.

TeddyRooseveltsMustache:The Beatings Will Continue Until Morale Improves: TeddyRooseveltsMustache: [www.thetorquereport.com image 850x566] This thing was supposed to be available soon. Police only. Wonder when that's happening?

Is that a refitted Malibu or is it off the new Impala?

New Caprice.

Yup that's the badge they put on it, but is it a Malibu or Impala underneath? The interior trim looks a lot like the Malibu except of course for the console. The Impala is a longer version of the Malibu (like the Lacrosse is a longer version of the Regal), so it would also make sense to base it off that.

Curious:HideAndGoFarkYourself: I typicall make 6-8 work related telephone calls per 12 hour shift.

and how many personal calls?

as to the work calls, are you a supervisor? and if not why are you calling prosecutors? actually why would a cruiser cop call them regularly anyway?

Personal calls, typically zero, unless there's a pressing need, just like every other person with a job in the world.

You do know that Supervisors aren't the only ones who speak with prosecutor's for search warrants and what not, right? In my last shift I called the prosecutor for two things, a search warrant for blood after a serious bodily injury accident, and a search warrant on a meth lab. Why would a supervisor do those things?