-----Obama Wins Right to Indefinitly Detain ANYONE suspected of Terroism Without Due Process-----

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the downside of this Law is he can use this as an excuse to detain anyone he wants ..

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43485535

There is no upside of "this Law".

Quoting: s. d. butler

Maybe there is an upside. Under the law, doesn't this make Obama a terrorist? Wouldn't he then be just as likely to be arrested for the very law he wishes to envoke.

Obama wants to give arms and money for people that are fighting an existing government. Under the law, fighting or resisting the lagetimate government, or supplying said resistance with aid, would result in a charge of aiding terrorism. So, under the law, Obama is guilty of violating his own law, and therefore should be arrested and permanently detained.

Re: -----Obama Wins Right to Indefinitly Detain ANYONE suspected of Terroism Without Due Process-----

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

This was written by Franklin, sometime shortly before February 17, 1775 as part of his notes for a proposition at the Pennsylvania Assembly, as published in Memoirs of the life and writings of Benjamin Franklin (1818). A variant of this was published as:

Re: -----Obama Wins Right to Indefinitly Detain ANYONE suspected of Terroism Without Due Process-----

Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.Thomas Jefferson

Re: -----Obama Wins Right to Indefinitly Detain ANYONE suspected of Terroism Without Due Process-----

That is how power morphs. Bush starts it all with the patriot act (quite patriotic sounding right? who wouldn't support the patriotic sounding program?) Obama expands upon it and then a hitler type comes around and says "who I can control everything" and "I get jail all my opposition"

Don't be foolish. Look at history. it has happened in other countries and it can happen here too

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I weep for the liberty of my country when I see at this early day of its successful experiment that corruption has been imputed to many members of the House of Representatives, and the rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office.Andrew Jackson

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The only sure bulwark of continuing liberty is a government strong enough to protect the interests of the people, and a people strong enough and well enough informed to maintain its sovereign control over the goverment.Franklin D. Roosevelt

The Obama administration has won the latest battle in their fight to indefinitely detain US citizens and foreigners suspected of being affiliated with terrorists under the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012.

Congress granted the president the authority to arrest and hold individuals accused of terrorism without due process under the NDAA, but Mr. Obama said in an accompanying signing statement that he will not abuse these privileges to keep American citizens imprisoned indefinitely. These assurances, however, were not enough to keep a group of journalists and human rights activists from filing a federal lawsuit last year, which contested the constitutionality of Section 1021, the particular provision that provides for such broad power.

A federal judge sided with the plaintiffs originally by granting an injunction against Section 1021, prompting the Obama administration to request an appeal last year. On Wednesday this week, an appeals court in New York ruled in favor of the government and once again allowed the White House to legally indefinitely detain persons that fit in the category of enemy combatants or merely provide them with support.

************************************* “We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.”-- Jorge Luis Borges~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~"Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring, and finished it in the middle of the summer."-- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei

Re: -----Obama Wins Right to Indefinitly Detain ANYONE suspected of Terroism Without Due Process-----

That is how power morphs. Bush starts it all with the patriot act (quite patriotic sounding right? who wouldn't support the patriotic sounding program?) Obama expands upon it and then a hitler type comes around and says "who I can control everything" and "I get jail all my opposition"

Don't be foolish. Look at history. it has happened in other countries and it can happen here too

Quoting: Desert Man

Obama didn't "expand" anything......Bush was the one that got it in place and someone finally got it through the red tape and before a judge while shrubsitute happened to be in office

Re: -----Obama Wins Right to Indefinitly Detain ANYONE suspected of Terroism Without Due Process-----

That is how power morphs. Bush starts it all with the patriot act (quite patriotic sounding right? who wouldn't support the patriotic sounding program?) Obama expands upon it and then a hitler type comes around and says "who I can control everything" and "I get jail all my opposition"

Don't be foolish. Look at history. it has happened in other countries and it can happen here too

Quoting: Desert Man

Obama didn't "expand" anything......Bush was the one that got it in place and someone finally got it through the red tape and before a judge while shrubsitute happened to be in office

Re: -----Obama Wins Right to Indefinitly Detain ANYONE suspected of Terroism Without Due Process-----

That is how power morphs. Bush starts it all with the patriot act (quite patriotic sounding right? who wouldn't support the patriotic sounding program?) Obama expands upon it and then a hitler type comes around and says "who I can control everything" and "I get jail all my opposition"

Don't be foolish. Look at history. it has happened in other countries and it can happen here too

Quoting: Desert Man

Obama didn't "expand" anything......Bush was the one that got it in place and someone finally got it through the red tape and before a judge while shrubsitute happened to be in office

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42392596

As a matter of fact obongo did expand the police state that the little shrub worked on and expanded so well.

That is what NDAA is all about. And in other ways to numerous to mention here.