Come on, a 1 month ban for "general trolling" is some serious bullshit. Like rdsrds banning me for something she found in an older thread Let me also mention it was a week after the fact, and I had already been banned for the posts by a different mod. Some serious bullshit.

It seems that there are some mods who fall under the label of "power-tripping losers." It wasn't a seriously offensive, and they seem to enjoy exerting power over such a meaningless, low-value situation, which accounts for their seeming to be a bunch of losers.

No, this isn't a flame, nor is it trolling. Some of them just seem to act this certain way, and of course I may be mistaken, but this it how it appears to be.

It seems that there are some mods who fall under the label of "power-tripping losers." It wasn't a seriously offensive, and they seem to enjoy exerting power over such a meaningless, low-value situation, which accounts for their seeming to be a bunch of losers.

No, this isn't a flame, nor is it trolling. Some of them just seem to act this certain way, and of course I may be mistaken, but this it how it appears to be.

In all honesty, this site has the WORST moderating team of any site that I have a membership too. EVEN GLENN BECK'S WEBSITE HAS BETTER MODERATING. I got a ban there (for "trolling"), appealed it, & was shown to in the right. And so they lifted it,... and that was all within in 24 hours (I also got an apology). I wish I was lying, but this place is more oppressing than Glenn Beck's. I don't care about whether or not some untrained, no-brained MOD considers AOG a troll or not, the community respects him. There is no ban warranted because he isn't hurting anything. (BTW, MODS don't have a definition for "trolling." It's whatever suits their purpose)

BigBallinStalin wrote:Some of them just seem to act this certain way, and of course I may be mistaken, but this it how it appears to be.

You're in the right. Once people get their MOD status they go through... like a break-in period where they try to find out how best to use their powers. They act like a super-hero who wont let you cross the street outside of the crosswalk... Most of them ease up a bit over time, and let you cross against the lights, but they still show no training whatsoever. They can be pretty unpredictable. And when you talk about an "air of superiority" here's some LOVO quotes:

I dont get my kicks out of banning people for no reason.Sure that rule wasnt there. But the rule existed.

(this was him talking about a rule that only existed in the MODs private forums, and his enforcement of it)

As you have been told countless times...If you feel that you were wronged (which you obviously do) that to take it to Insomnia red or an admin.

He quite literally followed this with:

And you will find mods defending me as yer we do stick together. As we do become friends otuside of the public boards.

And this is probably what we complain about the most... it's remarkable to hear a moderator confess to it, but no matter how ridiculously shitty their excuses are, they always stick up for each other. The appeal process here is a myth. If Richard the Lionheart had commanded this much loyalty from his troops Palestine would be speaking English today.

InkL0sed wrote:Yes, there's a long tradition of an "us vs. them" mentality among the mods at CC. Moderating has always been a war of wits and politics.

I don't see it that way. I can't speak for the other mods, since we aren't one collective being, as many see us, but I have a feeling I am not alone.

Uhh... really? All I have to say is, wicked, Twill, Night Strike, Optimus Prime, king achilles.

Actually, no, I have more to say. I consistently see people who mods dislike or even hate get banned for trivial things. I, on the other hand, am generally well-liked (or rather, I don't get on mods' bad sides), so I get away with murder on these boards all the time. I routinely call people morons and make fun of them, partially out of an intentional testing of the rules, and have rarely even been warned.

The matter of who gets banned and who doesn't is absolutely up to politics, because the rules here are NEVER fairly and universally applied. They're almost always not applied; so when they are, how can I not see it as purely out of spite, or some other ulterior motive? Why in the hell do you people think there's so little respect for the rules around here?

InkL0sed wrote:Yes, there's a long tradition of an "us vs. them" mentality among the mods at CC. Moderating has always been a war of wits and politics.

I don't see it that way. I can't speak for the other mods, since we aren't one collective being, as many see us, but I have a feeling I am not alone.

Uhh... really? All I have to say is, wicked, Twill, Night Strike, Optimus Prime, king achilles.

Actually, no, I have more to say. I consistently see people who mods dislike or even hate get banned for trivial things. I, on the other hand, am generally well-liked (or rather, I don't get on mods' bad sides), so I get away with murder on these boards all the time. I routinely call people morons and make fun of them, partially out of an intentional testing of the rules, and have rarely even been warned.

The matter of who gets banned and who doesn't is absolutely up to politics, because the rules here are NEVER fairly and universally applied. They're almost always not applied; so when they are, how can I not see it as purely out of spite? Why in the hell do you people think there's so little respect for the rules around here?

When I said I don't see it that way, I meant my personal view is not an 'us vs. them' mentality. Hey, half those mods you mentioned aren't even around!! But I only mod Live Chat, so I can't speak on behalf of the forums. I just come here for my own enjoyment. I can see how you would perceive some of those actions in that way however, if can always looked bias when you can't see all of the behind the scenes stuff. /chat mods shuts up now

InkL0sed wrote:Yes, there's a long tradition of an "us vs. them" mentality among the mods at CC. Moderating has always been a war of wits and politics.

I don't see it that way. I can't speak for the other mods, since we aren't one collective being, as many see us, but I have a feeling I am not alone.

Uhh... really? All I have to say is, wicked, Twill, Night Strike, Optimus Prime, king achilles.

Actually, no, I have more to say. I consistently see people who mods dislike or even hate get banned for trivial things. I, on the other hand, am generally well-liked (or rather, I don't get on mods' bad sides), so I get away with murder on these boards all the time. I routinely call people morons and make fun of them, partially out of an intentional testing of the rules, and have rarely even been warned.

The matter of who gets banned and who doesn't is absolutely up to politics, because the rules here are NEVER fairly and universally applied. They're almost always not applied; so when they are, how can I not see it as purely out of spite? Why in the hell do you people think there's so little respect for the rules around here?

When I said I don't see it that way, I meant my personal view is not an 'us vs. them' mentality. Hey, half those mods you mentioned aren't even around!! But I only mod Live Chat, so I can't speak on behalf of the forums. I just come here for my own enjoyment. I can see how you would perceive some of those actions in that way however, if can always looked bias when you can't see all of the behind the scenes stuff. /chat mods shuts up now

I'm not really accusing you personally of anything. I was also defending my original statement that there's a long tradition of this stuff.

Live chat is heavily biased. You personally banned me for racism and yet MAT said the exact same thing that I said all day today without so much as a warning. Give me a break.

Fircoal wrote:Honestly the reasons for his banning are really weak. It's interesting though as I thought the modding around here has gotten better as of late. But this is a return to the bad decisions of 08.

InkL0sed wrote:Yes, there's a long tradition of an "us vs. them" mentality among the mods at CC. Moderating has always been a war of wits and politics.

I don't see it that way. I can't speak for the other mods, since we aren't one collective being, as many see us, but I have a feeling I am not alone.

Uhh... really? All I have to say is, wicked, Twill, Night Strike, Optimus Prime, king achilles.

Actually, no, I have more to say. I consistently see people who mods dislike or even hate get banned for trivial things. I, on the other hand, am generally well-liked (or rather, I don't get on mods' bad sides), so I get away with murder on these boards all the time. I routinely call people morons and make fun of them, partially out of an intentional testing of the rules, and have rarely even been warned.

The matter of who gets banned and who doesn't is absolutely up to politics, because the rules here are NEVER fairly and universally applied. They're almost always not applied; so when they are, how can I not see it as purely out of spite, or some other ulterior motive? Why in the hell do you people think there's so little respect for the rules around here?

the honesty is brutal. On the other hand, I think it further strengthens certain aspects and re-affirms to all newcomers that the reputation is well earned

Live chat is heavily biased. You personally banned me for racism and yet MAT said the exact same thing that I said all day today without so much as a warning. Give me a break.

Fircoal wrote:Honestly the reasons for his banning are really weak. It's interesting though as I thought the modding around here has gotten better as of late. But this is a return to the bad decisions of 08.

That's how you know the new MODs have arrived.

Actually I did not ban you for racism or you'd be on a longer vacation, but thanks for playing. Live Chat is the least biased place that is moderated. But I digress because that is not the issue at hand and there is no need to argue it.