In an interview with New York magazine published Sunday, the former New York senator and secretary of State was asked if she “wrestle[s]” with running for president. Clinton said that she does.

“I do,” Clinton said, “but I’m both pragmatic and realistic. I think I have a pretty good idea of the political and governmental challenges that are facing our leaders, and I’ll do whatever I can from whatever position I find myself in to advocate for the values and the policies I think are right for the country. I will just continue to weigh what the factors are that would influence me making a decision one way or the other.”

The profile’s author, Joe Hagan, also spoke to several of Clinton associates — many of whom were more aggressive in pushing her for a 2016 run.

“She’s running, but she doesn’t know it yet,” one person told Hagan. “It’s just like a force of history. It’s inexorable; it’s gravitational. I think she actually believes she has more say in it than she actually does.”

Clinton has run before for the White House. But though the former first lady was considered the front-runner for her party’s nomination in 2008, she lost to President Obama in a drawn-out primary.

Hagan talked to former State Department staffers and friends who stressed her experience at the State Department and said Clinton is much more comfortable and more independent.

“They’re out there with these bullet points that are very interesting: that’s she’s not going to be as insular as she was in ’08, which was a big criticism of that campaign, that she showed more personality and was out being more human as a secretary of State. And also, very importantly, that she is more independent from her husband,” Hagan said on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

Senior Democrats are enthusiastic for another Clinton presidential campaign.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said on CNN’s “State of the Union” that she’s not sure if Clinton will run, but if she does, she’ll be well-prepared.

“I know that if she does she’ll win, and when she become president, she’ll be one of the most prepared people to enter the White House in a very long time,” she said.

“I think it would be magnificent for America to have a woman for president,” Pelosi added.