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Comment by Snabel

Really worth it for raids. Isn't very cheap though.

Comment by oraro

Patch 2.1 (currently on PTR as of mid-April) changes this item from 2000 mana to 65 intellect. This will give 975 mana (15 mana per intellect) without any talents that effect maximum mana. Priests with 5 points in the mental stength talent (+10% maximum mana) will get 1073 mana from this flask.

The mats to make all flasks will also be lowered. Distilled Wisdom will take 7 dreamfoil, 3 icecap, 1 black lotus and 1 crystal vial (down from 30 dreamfoil and 10 icecap)

Comment by Fatman

As an Elemental Shaman depending on group make up I would probably take this over Flask of Power, (post 2.1). With talents: 5/5 Unrelent Storm 6.5 Mp5orWith talents 3/5 Unrelent Storm 1.95Mp5Spell Crit %and The Extra Mana Pool +975 Mana.Now If I had a Shadow Priest in my group and no mana issues, I'd go with Supreme Power Flask.

Comment by Flyv

For balance druids full spec, +65 int is also +6.5mp5, +16 damage, and +0.8% crit.

Comment by Repsac

As a priest in 2.4, you don't want to use Mighty Restos (assuming you aren't living in the past and have taken up spirit stacking ). Given raid-buffed stats of 600 intellect, 715 spirit, assuming a 10-minute fight, and IDS, for a priest, a Distill Wisdom provides 25 Mp5 I5SR, 56 Mp5 OO5SR, and 975 mana. This is assuming you do not have Mental Strength (most T5+ raid builds do not), as is outlined in the first "green" post, which would then add 1073 mana.

Comment by Roofhack

It is important to include the 10% stats bonus of Kings (since this scales with Kings while Mighty Restoration does not). Which actually makes the mana gained from this flask equal 1170 and the spell damage/healing by 27.3, while the spell crit is still barely under 1% (0.975% or there abouts).

Comment by suicidalkatt

This may very well be the new Enhancement Shaman flask of choice. 65 attack power from talents as well as a decent amount of mana for more chain lightning abuse not to mention spell crit.

Comment by frmorrison

* 65 Intellect, with BoK and Divine Intellect * 975 Mana at the start of the fight * 23mp5 from Divine Plea, if its used on CD. * 12mp5 from Replenishment, with 90% uptime. * 3mp5 from Arcane Torrent, if you are a Blood Elf. * 16 Spell Power * 0.45% Spell Crit

It looks like spell power is slightly better, but it is a close call. Major mojo is blown out of the water.

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Comment by Martsus

For Disc Priests the flask of choice, due to our 15% extra intellect talent. Benefits:-Your mana pool-Rapture regains-Crit%-Replenishment gainsedit:-Also increases your mp5 due to the scaling of +spirit regen with intellect

Thing to note also is that it's way cheaper than the Wotlk flasks. Payed about 120 g and had 10 of these flasks crafted by an alchemist.

Comment by Elnarr

Definitely -the- holy paladin flask, even to this date.

EDIT :

With the changes of 3.2 , it looks like the next flask of choice is either Frostwyrm for pure throughput, or Mojo for regen.Even better if you have Mixology, as the northrend flasks are getting buffed.

Comment by AznNetwork

Which totals up to 74.75 intellect increase.Which gives 1121.25 more mana.

Comment by rinkx

If you stocked up on flasks for ulduar with this one, be aware that unlike their northrend counterparts, you will not be compensated.

Comment by Venara

For holy priests you can and should use a combination of elixirs instead of that flasks. While i can agree that a flask may be useful on encounters your raid didn't kill before ("wipe encounters"), you should be going for elixirs for min/maxing.

Guru+Draenic is a lot better than Distilled Wisdom, at least for a holy priest. On encounters like Vezax the combination of Guru+Mighty Thoughts is superior. Imagine how much you would gain if you also had Mixology. Conclusion: Only use this flask if your raid is wiping a lot or if you want to save money because you don't really care.

Comment by bygbyron3

78.65 intellect grants 1179.75 mana initially which supplies 11.8 mp5 from replenishment and 24.58 mp5 from divine plea if used on cooldown for a total of 36.38 mp5

112.53 intellect grants 1542.75 mana initially which supplies 15.43 mp5 from replenishment and 32.14 mp5 from divine plea if used on cooldown for a total of 47.57 mp5

Comment by Theolol

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Comment by AriaOfWar

Is it still possible to proc extras of these if you have Elixir Mastery?

Comment by lordlight

Oddly it is hard to push these on the AH, the mats are steeper then most flask *Curse you prebc mats* I tried pushing these for 35-40G a pop and was flamed endlessly in trade for being unreasonable for not selling them for 20g because they were "Only lvl60 items".

Comment by gamerunknown

A few things to keep in mind for the current patch:

If one isn't going to be wiping on an encounter, there isn't much need to be flasking as a healer. I know I might get downranked for this, but one is not going to speed up the encounter unless one is assisting with dps. If one looking at this item, one is most likely a healer.

If one is on progression content and wants to be of utmost utility to the raid, one will take fel blossoms to pop in any encounters with non physical raid damage on pull... If one is not that excessive, a guru's elixir and elixir of mighty thoughts may be cheaper (depending on how many wipes and the intervals between them) and provide more of a stat bonus (especially with mixology). For all other situations I'm glad I can pretend Flask of the North is useful.

Edit: To summarise, there's a balance between cost (including opportunity cost) and utility that everyone makes an unconscious calculation about. Few people pay heed to the random 10 minute world buffs that would ostensibly be useful due to the opportunity cost of having to farm them and then get a warlock to port them in. Nor to items that are rarely on the AH and provide a marginal benefit. But perhaps people also place too much emphasis on optimising at great cost in other ways when the difference is as negligible (perhaps between this and flask of the frost wyrm) as those fel blossoms or world buffs.

One way to analyse enchants and flasks is by comparing them to how many gem slots it would take to match the stat of that particular flask and whether one would gem for that stat. For holy paladins, int is supreme and this sates 3.25 gem slots of it. But the additional stamina of the guru's elixir isn't to be sneezed at. For holy priests, int, spellpower and spirit are all valued in varied degrees. Guru's elixir provides 2 gems worth (1 for int and 1 for spirit) and mighty thoughts an additional 2.25, or draenic wisdom, 3. Flask of the frost wyrm provides the equivalent of 5.4~ gems. Flask of pure mojo 4.5 gems. Then compare to the gems one has used on your gear to determine the worth of a particular flask. If one has avoided nightmare's tear gems (for example, as a holy pally), then one probably won't be swayed by the guru's elixir + 1 argument.