griffer:sendtodave: griffer: Oh for the love of Rand! You jackanapes are a disgrace. Terrible, horrible stupidity. Like a bunch of circle jerling monkeys, egging each other on by lobbing feces. Congratulations on your total regression. Join Scientology now, and give up your brain entirely. No wonder we are doomed. I am so glad I have chosen to not procreate and protect my progeny from this decay.

Enjoy your disgusting mud pit, you stupid dicks.

WHY YOU TALK FUNNY? YOU FROM LAND BEYOND THE BIG WATER?

TALK LIKE REAL CAVEMERICAN.

SO EASY, CAVEMAN CAN DO IT.

I refuse to stoop to your level of inanity.

Do you realize our founding fathers were fluent in Latin, Greek and several European languages like French and German?

You are an embarrassment to the intellectual legacy of this nation.

Oh Wah. "I wanna have a big important discussion about my big important ideas and everybody here is being JERKS."

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears:griffer: sendtodave: griffer: Oh for the love of Rand! You jackanapes are a disgrace. Terrible, horrible stupidity. Like a bunch of circle jerling monkeys, egging each other on by lobbing feces. Congratulations on your total regression. Join Scientology now, and give up your brain entirely. No wonder we are doomed. I am so glad I have chosen to not procreate and protect my progeny from this decay.

Enjoy your disgusting mud pit, you stupid dicks.

WHY YOU TALK FUNNY? YOU FROM LAND BEYOND THE BIG WATER?

TALK LIKE REAL CAVEMERICAN.

SO EASY, CAVEMAN CAN DO IT.

I refuse to stoop to your level of inanity.

Do you realize our founding fathers were fluent in Latin, Greek and several European languages like French and German?

You are an embarrassment to the intellectual legacy of this nation.

Oh Wah. "I wanna have a big important discussion about my big important ideas and everybody here is being JERKS."

Does anyone actually say "For the love of Rand" as an opener without its intended purpose to be an obvious troll designation? I thought it was an entertaining troll but the cave talk has confused me and made me hungry.

While epic, the humor sidesteps the point: The two political parties which hold the political process in a monopoly leave the majority with a choice between voting for the Tyranny of the Aristocracy or the Tyranny of the Bureaucracy. In the simplest terms, you're going to get screwed no matter which way you go and your vote is really for whom you would prefer to do the screwing. A third party needs to be advanced, based upon the rights and advantage of the individual, to force the two main parties back into some kind of reality.

Does it really matter which rich people run away with the country? That's what you're really debating. Or making fun for/ of.

Z-clipped:IRQ12: Pocket Ninja: Libertarians are the atheists of the political world, in that many of them will loudly and frequently tell you they are that thing, but a very small percentage of them -- a miniscule amount, really -- actually know what being that thing means. Most of them have chosen to self-label as a reaction to something else, not out of conscious selection, and almost none of them can identify more than the most patently obvious truisms about their "chosen" belief system. They know what they've been told, or what they've read about being told, and that's about it.

Damn. I have honestly never heard anyone just lay it out in such a succinct way.

Except that it's nonsense. Many many people will tie themselves in knots to avoid admitting they're atheists, because of the social connotation. You see it in every thread about atheism. "I'm not an atheist, I'm agnostic! Blah blah blah."

hinten nailed it upthread: Christians are the ones who constantly loudly proclaim their membership while failing to live up to the tenets of their belief system. (Which was probably the double-reverse sex panther troll that PN was going for in the first place.)

You may be right. If the "social connotation" is: "I'm afraid of saying I am an atheist or libertarian because almost every single one I have ever heard from is an obnoxious asshole who really has no clue of what they are talking about and most people I meet think the same, regardless of their beliefs."

HAMMERTOE:While epic, the humor sidesteps the point: The two political parties which hold the political process in a monopoly leave the majority with a choice between voting for the Tyranny of the Aristocracy or the Tyranny of the Bureaucracy. In the simplest terms, you're going to get screwed no matter which way you go and your vote is really for whom you would prefer to do the screwing. A third party needs to be advanced, based upon the rights and advantage of the individual, to force the two main parties back into some kind of reality.

Does it really matter which rich people run away with the country? That's what you're really debating. Or making fun for/ of.

StaleCoffee:Does anyone actually say "For the love of Rand" as an opener without its intended purpose to be an obvious troll designation? I thought it was an entertaining troll but the cave talk has confused me and made me hungry.

My bad. I gotta learn to stop paying attention to people that do that sh*t.