Craig Huff wrote:
> On 9/8/07, *Jay R. Ashworth* <jra at baylink.com> <mailto:jra at baylink.com>> wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 10:50:01AM -0700, Bruce Markey wrote:
> <snip>
> > The difference is whether or not showings of old episodes are
> > included in the recording list. Which new episodes will record
> > will be exactly the same for either of these options.
>> > 'New episodes only' matches all the showings for the rule then
> > in the 'place' phase, marks the showings that are more than 14
> > days past their original air date as "r". 'Exclude old episodes'
> > doesn't match for any of the showings more than 14 days old
> > so these are never clutter in the recording list. Both of these
> > approaches are valid and may or may not be what the user expects
> > to see.
>> > For example, "Saturday Night Live" is on once a week on NBC but more
> > often than not, they are repeats. I use 'New episodes only' so that
> > repeats are listed marked as "r". I can look at the description and
> > decide if I want to re-record it if I'd like.
>> > "Mythbusters" has two showings of one recent episode "Mythbusters
> > Revealed" which I've already recorded but there are 49 showings of
> > "Mythbusters" episodes in my listings. I don't want to have about
> > fifty "Mythbusters" in my list all the time when I won't consider
> > recording these. By using 'Exclude old episodes' the list only
> > includes the two showings of the new episode.
>> > Further, because the scheduler will only consider new episodes with
> > either of these options, I can go to the 'Previously Recorded'
> page in
> > mythfrontend and remove all the old episodes for "Mythbusters"
> rather
> > than accumulating hundreds of these over the years.
> >
> > As I said, either of these are valid and may be what you want but
> > for each of them, only the showings for new episodes are eligible to
> > record and the same showings will be scheduled if you use one or the
> > other of these options.
>> I apologize, Bruce; I was hoping that by the end of your message
> I'd be
> able to pry out the difference in meaning between new/old. is/isn't
> repeat, and we've recorded it/we haven't, but I couldn't *quite*
> do it.
>> "New episodes only" and "exclude repeats" are *separate* checkboxes,
> right? (I'm not near my machine.)
>> "Exclude repeats" is pretty clear: if the R flag is on the listing
> record, skip it.
>> But what, exactly, is the definition of "New episodes only"? "Ones
> we've never recorded *here* before"? (This isn't idle query; I
> want to
> get the right answer into the User's Manual ... where I see that it is
> not, at the moment.
>> Cheers,
> -- jra
>>> Jay,
>> I think I get it. "New episodes only" makes a list of all candidates
> that
> otherwise match the rule. It **later** marks those that first aired >
> 14 days
> ago as repeats by showing them in the list with "r". Those without
> "r" are
> potential recordings, depending on scheduling priorities and conflict
> resolution.
> OTOH, "'Exclude old episodes" strips the old episodes out when making the
> list of candidates up in the first place and the user won't even know
> they're
> available for overriding the rule and recording anyway.
>> Does that help? Bruce- Am I still barking up the wrong tree?
>> Craig.
I think that's it. I just played around with it in MythWeb, based on
this conversation, and noticed that series re-runs had the little
'broken box' outline for repeats when 'New episodes only' was used.
This implies that it got added, then, marked as a repeat. When I went
back and changed the filter to 'Exclude Repeats', the episode comes up
in mythweb with no markings at all...
Brian