blah this is my third attemp after restarting (damn not being pro) and i am stuck again

8:29 am

Talk24hr

anyone have any tips for strategies ?

8:49 am

Talk24hr

finally! I must've been blind for some reason, finally it just clicked

9:36 am

MrOoijer

very interesting one today:-)

10:38 am

DarleenMB

Now THAT'S what I call a MEDIUM! Yippeee!!! solved :-)

11:21 am

yul

hello everybody

11:22 am

johnmstash

I completed my first sudoku. Today, I am a man.

11:24 am

caffeinatedelf

LOL! well, congratulations on your newfound manhood.

11:25 am

caffeinatedelf

hi yul!

11:25 am

yul

good day

11:31 am

yul

have to green a bit, was hoping not too

11:46 am

yul

done

12:01 pm

Grace O'Malley

Hi all

12:21 pm

Linda

not bad for a medium. i must be getting better

12:23 pm

moedog

and awaaaay we go!

12:26 pm

btwrt

lol caff, i just saw what you said about manhood and was momentarily shocked

12:56 pm

X

...*raises eyebrows* hey, I come in and see the word 'mahood' XD is it going to be a good evening?

1:06 pm

blueskies29

hello all

3:29 pm

LdyVxn

howdy all

3:33 pm

kittybat

hello

3:59 pm

conspireagainst

werd

4:00 pm

hurshy

weird, or word?

4:00 pm

conspireagainst

worrrdd!

4:00 pm

hurshy

wat up dawg?

4:00 pm

conspireagainst

heh, glad this puzzle's not "hard" this time

4:01 pm

hurshy

hard is a state of mind

4:02 pm

hurshy

and whom are we conspiring against today?

4:02 pm

hurshy

hmm that wasn't quite right

4:02 pm

hurshy

it should be

4:03 pm

hurshy

and against whom are we conspiring today?

4:03 pm

hurshy

it SOUNDS better the first way, but the second way is proper

4:03 pm

conspireagainst

always raging against the machine, it's a daily struggle for solidarity ;)

4:03 pm

hurshy

machine? hast thou cast thy sabot in as a protest?

4:05 pm

hurshy

i know, i know, you're confused because i'm using king james english and mixing it with dutch... a bit of a melange, yes

4:05 pm

conspireagainst

all i could come up with for sabot was a wooden shoe.

4:05 pm

hurshy

exactly!

4:06 pm

conspireagainst

heh, in that case i have no idea. conspiring against pretty much anything is fun

4:06 pm

conspireagainst

especially if it's repressive neo-conservatives

4:06 pm

conspireagainst

but we don't need to get into all that here ;)

4:06 pm

Diane

hear, hear

4:06 pm

hurshy

valeris, in star trek VI, explains that when workers felt their livelihood threatened by machines, they cast their wooden shoes, called "sabot", into the machines to stop them. hence the term, sabotage.

4:07 pm

Diane

(re: neo-cons)

4:07 pm

hurshy

down with neo-cons!

4:07 pm

conspireagainst

hurshy has started a soapbox for social revoltion!

4:07 pm

conspireagainst

*revolution, gee!

4:07 pm

hurshy

no i think that was you

4:08 pm

hurshy

i am merely marius to your enjolras

4:12 pm

hurshy

this is a very quiet revolution.

4:12 pm

hurshy

we need a song.

4:12 pm

conspireagainst

this is true.

4:12 pm

Diane

am working on an archive expert - bad.

4:12 pm

hurshy

RED... the blood of angry men

4:13 pm

hurshy

BLACK... the dark of ages past

4:13 pm

Diane

You say you want a revolution?

4:13 pm

hurshy

RED... a world about to dawn

4:13 pm

hurshy

BLACK... the night that ends at last!

4:13 pm

kittybat

Hm, are those the colors of the flag of revolution?

4:13 pm

hurshy

i don't know diane, we're only in the fomenting stage right now

4:14 pm

hurshy

haven't you folks listened to the les mis soundtrack?

4:14 pm

Diane

Marius, it looks as though you've seen a ghost

4:14 pm

conspireagainst

the ideas seem neutral until convened upon by the council of elders...

4:14 pm

conspireagainst

i have not listened to the soundtrack, no.

4:15 pm

kittybat

I'm feeling rather revoltish right now. Revolted? revoltable? revolting? Whatever--I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!

4:15 pm

sherb

Diane was ssuggesting a song... Beatles...

4:15 pm

hurshy

well join us little schoolboys, kittybat, we will wet ourselves with blood

4:16 pm

conspireagainst

Well, well. This is marvelous!

4:16 pm

Diane

Not to mention a line from Les Mis . . .

4:16 pm

hurshy

well the trouble is diane, i have not had the funds to see the musical, i only know the songs.

4:17 pm

sherb

sudoku is a more fitting place for revolution than Babble...

4:17 pm

conspireagainst

absolutely sherb. move forward with sword in hand!

4:17 pm

Diane

Or at least a water pistol

4:18 pm

conspireagainst

with arsenic

4:18 pm

hurshy

hmm, why sherb

4:18 pm

conspireagainst

you too hursh, diane and kittybat

4:19 pm

hurshy

i would have thought babble, homonym of babel, where man tried to rebel against God, would have been a very fitting place for revolution

4:19 pm

sherb

babble is very cosy...

4:19 pm

kittybat

done!

4:20 pm

kittybat

now, I can help plan the revolt

4:20 pm

hurshy

congrats, oh child of michael keaton and michelle pfeiffer

4:20 pm

kittybat

lol

4:24 pm

sherb

eyes drooping... this one can wait until another day... nite all :)

4:24 pm

AliMcsweet

goodnight

4:26 pm

hurshy

nighty night sherb

5:04 pm

Essie

Not.

5:06 pm

Essie

Hello World:

5:26 pm

stubie

What do you guys think about this one?

5:27 pm

shortstop

Medium :)

5:27 pm

stubie

Thanks

5:27 pm

shortstop

no problem

5:37 pm

Essie

take it easy .as is

5:38 pm

Essie

bye . tomorrow

6:30 pm

tdogg

These puzzles fail to compare to the one I solved yesterday

6:30 pm

shortstop

how so

6:30 pm

tdogg

I solved the ultimate Sudoku in five hours

6:31 pm

shortstop

where?

6:33 pm

tdogg

There is a website. The puzzle is called the Dion cube. It is made up of 9 Sudoku puzzles. You must solve them using the basic rules, but now adding 3-D rules

6:33 pm

shortstop

I have never done one like that. I have done one that is 5 overlapping but never 3D

6:34 pm

tdogg

The puzzle isn't 3-D itself but if you were to stack the puzzles on each other like a cube, it would follow the Sudoku rules

I know ... but people kept asking me ... but luckily I wasn't here so I couldn't reply :):)

10:52 pm

hurshy

oh, i see

10:52 pm

hurshy

then it's not that traumatic

10:52 pm

Atalante

traumatic enough!

10:52 pm

Atalante

I wouldn't know what to say to him!

10:52 pm

hurshy

ok now we're being rude, tell mab how the west is fun

10:53 pm

mab

he does pop up at the oddest moments

10:53 pm

hurshy

and did you both like how i answered mab's question in song??

10:53 pm

hurshy

ok that time i really thought we were subtle enough, how do people always know who we mean?

10:53 pm

Atalante

LOL yeah really!

10:54 pm

mab

I'm on the list too

10:54 pm

hurshy

the list?

10:54 pm

Atalante

so much for subtlety :)

10:54 pm

hurshy

have we got a club? with a treehouse? i have always wanted a treehouse.

10:54 pm

Atalante

yay! with a secret password?

10:54 pm

mab

I don't want to intrude.

10:55 pm

Atalante

you could never intrude mab we loooove you :)

10:55 pm

hurshy

intrude? but it was your idea, you brought up the list

10:55 pm

mab

But I do want to join a club that has a tree house

10:55 pm

Atalante

same here!

10:55 pm

hurshy

what did you mean by the list anyway??

10:56 pm

hurshy

and yes we can have a secret password but we can't say it here or it won't be secret

10:56 pm

mab

I'm afraid to say too much in this forum

10:56 pm

hurshy

but there's a list?

10:56 pm

mab

Not that I have anything dramatic

10:56 pm

hurshy

for real?

10:56 pm

hurshy

of some sort?

10:56 pm

mab

No, just seems like it

10:56 pm

Atalante

I think it should be 'chest hair'. did I say too much? ooops! *giggle*

10:56 pm

Limer

Hey Hurshy

10:57 pm

hurshy

hello, limer

10:57 pm

Limer

Sup, babe?

10:57 pm

mab

hahaha -- yes, I think you might.

10:57 pm

hurshy

escuse me, why you call me babe? am i a pig who herds sheep?

10:57 pm

scribble's mom

Hershy, I am now crazy from this Puzzle, I give up and Im going to bed. If I dont make it back this weekend I'll see you on Monday. Have a good weekend!!!

10:57 pm

hurshy

you too, scribble's mom!!! and really, i'm not crazy :)

10:58 pm

mab

she's not.

10:58 pm

Limer

Uh......no. uh......sorry?

10:58 pm

hurshy

and mab, i can get my husband to tell you how i've been acting in the non-virtual world so you'll know i'm not manic either if you want :)

10:59 pm

hurshy

limer - it's ok but... i don't like to be called babe... :)

10:59 pm

Limer

toots?

10:59 pm

hurshy

mmm, how about pally-o

11:00 pm

Limer

Sure thing, Sunshine...er...Pally-O

11:00 pm

mab

That's very sexy

11:00 pm

hurshy

now, mab, you really must get AIM so we can chat more freely

11:00 pm

hurshy

what's sexy?

11:00 pm

Atalante

can I call you babe, hurshy? *kisses*

11:00 pm

mab

Pally-o.

11:00 pm

hurshy

ahhh... yes, you can ata

11:01 pm

mab

hurshy is you husband a Brit?

11:01 pm

hurshy

no, why?

11:01 pm

mab

The lime ref.

11:01 pm

Limer

BIAS!

11:02 pm

Atalante

:)

11:02 pm

Atalante

my husband's a Brit!

11:02 pm

hurshy

limer, you're a boy, right?

11:02 pm

mab

Well that seems logical, Atl.

11:02 pm

Limer

I have enough hair on my butt to weave an Indian rug. Don't call be boy.

11:02 pm

hurshy

well when i say "boy" i mean "male"

11:03 pm

Limer

Just trying to be funny and failing miserably. Yes, I am male.

11:03 pm

hurshy

so yes, there is bias - girls may call me babe, but not boys :)

11:03 pm

mab

I'm getting a very bad visual on the hair rug thing

11:03 pm

Atalante

uh oh. butt hair now

11:03 pm

Limer

k

11:03 pm

hurshy

limer - it would probably be funnier if we didn't have some bad experiences with body hair recently

11:04 pm

broll

mab: saw you and Ren talking about books on Babble earlier as I was reviewing log. Great source of books by mail is E.R. Hamilton. They have website, but haven't visited in ages. Half-Price Books (stores) have clearance section in back with great $3, $2 and $1 bargains. Borders Outlets also have good buys.

11:04 pm

Limer

I do not think "we" have had ANY bad experiences.

11:04 pm

hurshy

by we i mean mab, atalante, and i

11:04 pm

mab

oh, thanks broll, I'll look.

11:05 pm

hurshy

*still shuddering*

11:05 pm

Limer

k

11:05 pm

hurshy

atalante, sprite was so mean to me today

11:05 pm

Limer

Forgive me for dredging up bad memories

11:05 pm

hurshy

lol, it's all humorous, really limer

11:06 pm

Limer

I'm so confused.

11:06 pm

hurshy

it's ok limer - just don't worry, nobody is upset with you, ok?

11:06 pm

mab

Awww..

11:06 pm

Atalante

LOL! Sprite!!

11:06 pm

Limer

k

11:06 pm

hurshy

we can't really explain without being rude, is all, limer.

11:07 pm

hurshy

YES sprite

11:07 pm

Limer

k

11:07 pm

hurshy

she comes on with 78 words to go and i have 13 to go

11:07 pm

hurshy

and she goes and beats me, which i expect

11:07 pm

Limer

It's just sometimes I get "foot in mouth" disease.

11:07 pm

Atalante

bwahahaha you poor thing! I hate it when she does that!

11:07 pm

hurshy

but she has the gall to be saying things about how i am not really trying, holding back so i'll be right about her beating me!

11:08 pm

hurshy

i mean she could at least have the decency to acknowledge her superiority! condescension!!!

11:08 pm

Atalante

yeah, she seems to think I'm as good as her, I just get sidetracked so she finishes quicker LOL

11:09 pm

hurshy

oh yes she gave me that getting distracted line

11:09 pm

hurshy

modesty is one thing but that gal is out of touch with reality!

11:10 pm

hurshy

limer, i'm sorry, i am afraid in trying not to be overly rude to someone else, we were a little rude to you... and i know what you mean, i have the same thing and i call it "fat marker syndrome"

11:10 pm

mab

Sprite is self-conscious about her speediness, and she gets so much feedback.

11:10 pm

Limer

You have no offended me at all.

11:11 pm

Atalante

poor spritey. the curse of genius!

11:11 pm

hurshy

mab, of course i am saying all this with the utmost love. i don't really mean sprite was mean to me :)

11:11 pm

mab

I think she gets tired of responding, and wants to deflect.

11:12 pm

hurshy

she must get most of the feedback when i'm not on then, i haven't noticed that.

11:12 pm

hurshy

i deflect such things by telling people how amazing sprite is :)

11:12 pm

mab

Oh, oh, well, there you see? I'm so terribly slow....

11:13 pm

hurshy

what? why? slow? huh?

11:13 pm

mab

Well, I felt I had to throw in some support for Sprite when really you weren't attacking her.

11:14 pm

hurshy

oh, i see...yes my tongue was firmly in my cheek that whole time :)

11:14 pm

Atalante

Sprite! Sprite! Sprite! yay yay yay! *does cheerleader stuff*

11:15 pm

hurshy

see i forget that tone is not always clear online... and i knew ata would know what i meant bc we have talked about such things before...

11:15 pm

mab

We love sprite and everyone else!!!! Well not EVeryone

11:15 pm

hurshy

the wizard of oz quote was the BEST.

11:16 pm

mab

Oh Ok, but I am a little thick.

11:16 pm

hurshy

to paraphrase al borland, "i don't think so, mab"

11:19 pm

hurshy

you picked up on our mutual friend talk awfully fast

11:19 pm

Atalante

um yeah!

11:19 pm

hurshy

stil not sure how you did that :)

11:19 pm

mab

i'll be interested to hear more about that some time. Not now, clearly.

11:19 pm

Atalante

nor me!

11:20 pm

hurshy

yes, mab - are you going to get AIM, then? *smiles hopefully*

11:20 pm

mab

Well it was pretty obvious, and since I'd had contact too....

11:20 pm

mab

I'll check aim out tonight.

11:21 pm

Atalante

ahhhhh :) Contact with a capital C I think

11:21 pm

hurshy

clearly, subtlety is not my strong suit

11:21 pm

hurshy

then we just need vicuna to get it

11:22 pm

mab

Oooh, vi is a sharp one. I like her.

11:22 pm

hurshy

yes, i LOVE vi

11:22 pm

hurshy

she was the one with the wizard of oz quote

11:22 pm

hurshy

brilliant

11:22 pm

mab

What was the quote?

11:23 pm

hurshy

some people without brains do an awful lot of talking

11:23 pm

mab

he he he. that's good.

11:23 pm

hurshy

but it was so nicely woven into the conversation, too...

11:24 pm

hurshy

only the trouble is, i think certain people didn't know it was a quote and took it at face value, when the whole beauty of it was the quote disguising the meaning

11:26 pm

mab

in general, there is not a lack of block headedness about.

11:26 pm

hurshy

LOL

11:27 pm

Atalante

subtlety is usually wasted *sigh*

11:27 pm

mab

You know? those hwo will misunderstand and begin wingeing.

11:27 pm

hurshy

wingeing?

11:28 pm

Atalante

whiiiiiiine

11:28 pm

hurshy

ah

11:28 pm

hurshy

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

11:28 pm

mab

A britishism I picked up from my ex.

11:29 pm

hurshy

having trouble deciding what is sayable

11:31 pm

mab

I'm still looking at this stupid puzzle, so you two can carry on. Discuss.

11:31 pm

hurshy

oh not because of you mab

11:31 pm

hurshy

because it's a public chatroom

11:32 pm

mab

I know, but I don't want to be a third wheel.

11:32 pm

Atalante

we can make code words to go with our treehouse and sekrit passwords :P

11:32 pm

hurshy

silly mab, join right in

11:32 pm

hurshy

we're not a clique

11:32 pm

hurshy

i mean we are

11:32 pm

hurshy

but you fit in nicely

11:32 pm

hurshy

:)

11:33 pm

mab

show dog? is that a good code phrase?

11:34 pm

mab

for you know who

11:34 pm

Atalante

woot!

11:34 pm

hurshy

it is just so ironic that the use of the quote relied on a certain level of stupidity so as not to be rude, and a greater level of ignorance than anticipated revealed the true meaning

11:34 pm

mab

furry spider

11:35 pm

hurshy

ok, so mab, were you there for the whole nobody-likes-the-showdog incident?

11:35 pm

Atalante

I like show dog. or show poodle!

11:35 pm

mab

No.

11:36 pm

hurshy

i am not really sure what the deal was... someone was looking for the showdog, someone else said the showdog was sad because nobody liked the showdog and the showdog needed consoling

11:36 pm

Atalante

I wasn't!

11:36 pm

mab

oh, brother!

11:37 pm

hurshy

but at that point, i could see nothing that would indicate to the showdog that nobody liked the showdog

11:37 pm

hurshy

in the chat log

11:37 pm

hurshy

i wondered if the showdog felt disliked if not perpetually fawned over?

11:38 pm

hurshy

however, later someone said that the showdog was never sad to begin with, so perhaps the someone who said the showdog was sad was mistaken.

11:38 pm

mab

mmmmm. All of those photos?

11:39 pm

hurshy

*shudders again about photo*

11:40 pm

Atalante

I'm soooo glad I missed those!

11:40 pm

hurshy

indeed you are. but the madness may not end.

11:40 pm

Atalante

wah

11:40 pm

hurshy

i am afraid that someone else finds me as irksome as we find the showdog.

11:41 pm

hurshy

which is too bad because i like that someone just fine.

11:42 pm

mab

Maybe we're not talking about the same person. Show dog has multitudes of self pics, yes? I like the one of just the snout. Same person?

11:42 pm

hurshy

lol, i didn't see the snout one, but yes mab

11:43 pm

hurshy

oh maybe i did...snout not meaning nose...

11:43 pm

mab

Everybody doesn't like everybody. I know several who aren't wild about me.

11:44 pm

mab

More of the maw, than snout.

11:44 pm

hurshy

well i know but it is one thing if... i mean i wouldn't mind the showdog not liking me, for instance

11:44 pm

hurshy

but someone nice and normal, it is different

11:45 pm

mab

People get bees in their bonnets. I assiduously avoid getting bees in mine.

11:45 pm

hurshy

the funny thing is, mab, that the people who said they didn't like me before seem to like me ok now.... unless they are just being polite.

11:45 pm

hurshy

bzzz bzzz bzzz

11:46 pm

hurshy

ata guess what else? pfft was in the grid one day and it COUNTED!

11:46 pm

Atalante

I know LOL! Almost as good as brrr

11:47 pm

mab

You are fine just the way you are, to paraphrase Mr. Rogers.

11:47 pm

hurshy

but i want haz to like me!

11:47 pm

mab

I'll bet she does.

11:48 pm

hurshy

i dunno, i think she is annoyed by GWHIM and finds me annoying, obnoxious, pretentious, and arrogant. just a vibe i get.

11:49 pm

hurshy

she's so much nicer than me, that is the problem. she is probably horrified because i am not as nice.

11:49 pm

mab

She really avoids any non-puzzle related goings on. I love GWHIM

11:50 pm

mab

but I know what you mean, there are those who I wished liked me.

11:50 pm

hurshy

i probably need to tone myself down anyway...

11:51 pm

hurshy

being on the zoloft i feel better - not manic, but good enough, and then online i feel uninhibited.... but i hope people don't think i am seeking attention or showing off

11:51 pm

Atalante

I doubt they do. you're just you

11:51 pm

mab

And then there are those who are whimsy-impaired, they lack scope for the imagination (Anne of Green Gables)

11:52 pm

hurshy

but i would sort of think that if i were whimsy impaired, i would be confused by whimsy, but not necessarily bothered by it

11:52 pm

mab

Don't tone down. You don't need to.

11:53 pm

Atalante

agreed

11:53 pm

mab

I don't understand non-whimsical creatures, so I couldn't say.

11:53 pm

hurshy

use your imagination, mab :)

11:55 pm

hurshy

if sprite is tired of deflecting, then i should stop pointing people toward her to deflect myself.

11:55 pm

Atalante

we'll just deflect onto you from now on :P

11:55 pm

hurshy

we deflected well as a team today :)

11:55 pm

hurshy

sprite and i

11:55 pm

hurshy

no no no

11:55 pm

hurshy

i'm getting pretty tired of deflecting myself

11:56 pm

hurshy

that is the downside of the whimsy

11:57 pm

Atalante

lets all deflect to show dog :P make people ask him everything

11:57 pm

hurshy

but i deflect onto sprite by complimenting her abilities

11:57 pm

hurshy

how can we...?

11:57 pm

mab

I have no need to deflect. How sad. Perhaps you could think of a few enigmatic phrases to toss out instead of deflecting.

11:58 pm

hurshy

i've had 28 years and haven't come up with any yet, mab. i always hated it when i was a kid and other kids would say, "you're really smart, aren't you?"