I have shot many sunsets and sunrises in my time, but this is one of the most colourful sunsets that I have ever seen and been able to photograph.

Dave,

May I suggest you submit your images in the sRGB colorspace? As it currently is, the thumbnails do not even remotely represent the actual image, but additionally, the resulting "colormanaged" views suffer from severe channelclipping which makes the colors go all over the place. (At least on my non-wide-gamut sRGB-ish display).

Therefore, I have a hard time viewing the scenes as they may have been in reality. I either see the dull colors of the thumbnail, or I see oversaturated clipped colors. Neither of these 2 options do the scenery or your vision about the scenery any justice.

Compositionally: I really like the layering and tonal and color transitions in the last image, at least in the "colormanaged" view, but i am desperately looking for a point-of-interest. I recall your boat in golden light recently.

I do not see why you had to replace the OP photo? It was rather good. The fact that I would tweak it tiny little bit, either by decreasing red/orange saturation or by increasing the black point for the front strip of land, does not mean it is bad by any stretch of imagination.

The layering of those land strips appears now perfect in all three posted photos, btw. I would now top that by increasing sky saturation in all of them. I know, I am hard to please

OK Slobodan, here is the OP back again but with the tweak(s) as per your suggestions above. Now c'mon, are we pleased yet???

May I suggest you submit your images in the sRGB colorspace? As it currently is, the thumbnails do not even remotely represent the actual image, but additionally, the resulting "colormanaged" views suffer from severe channelclipping which makes the colors go all over the place. (At least on my non-wide-gamut sRGB-ish display).

Oscar I am deeply ashamed to say that I have not done as you suggest or as I said I would do some weeks ago, please forgive me. I have an action you see that I save out all my files for upload onto Lula and for the life of me I cannot remember to add the sRGB colour space settings to the end of it, it would only take me a matter of seconds to do it as well, but can I remember? Can I heck.

I have now written this onto the back of my hand and will certainly do it tomorrow, so please bear with me until I get a chance to reload/replace the images you see here currently

Yes, looks better. You see, this sRGB issue skewed my later comments (about increasing saturation), as I either judged it by the thumbnails (and now I see why they appeared muted) or I saw them on my iPad (not certain how it color manages). In any case, there is a huge discrepancy between thumbnails and enlarged version (at least on my iMac and Safari).

Yes, looks better. You see, this sRGB issue skewed my later comments (about increasing saturation), as I either judged it by the thumbnails (and now I see why they appeared muted) or I saw them on my iPad (not certain how it color manages). In any case, there is a huge discrepancy between thumbnails and enlarged version (at least on my iMac and Safari).

But the reason I keep forgetting to swap colourspace, is because any decent colour is hard to see on my laptop anyway, as it isn't colour calibrated, in fact it is dowright awful, but that's where I upload from, my main imaging system never goes on-line. Yes I know I should get the laptop calibrated, but it is so old and cranky and full of cr*p that I really should retire it and get a new one. I will have to speak to head office

OK Slobodan, here is the OP back again but with the tweak(s) as per your suggestions above. Now c'mon, are we pleased yet??? Dave

Interesting comments all round! My preference is for your first submission. But, I wasn't there, I don't know what you saw. With your second submission (the 4 images), I liked shots 2 and 4, but that's just me! Send me a bottle of Talisker and I'll support you to the end! If you print them, print the one you like, not Stamper's or Slobodan's.

Interesting comments all round! My preference is for your first submission. But, I wasn't there, I don't know what you saw. With your second submission (the 4 images), I liked shots 2 and 4, but that's just me! Send me a bottle of Talisker and I'll support you to the end! If you print them, print the one you like, not Stamper's or Slobodan's.

I bought a bottle of Talisker the other day (and very nice it is too) but it is now selling for £35 a bottle - yikes!!

Now, what were you saying about replacing that Atari 64 you are working on?

Good grief, I used to have an Atari 64 and before that a Commadore with a tape loader - utter rubbish it was. I first learnt how to program on a BBC micro, but when the Amiga 500 came out, now that was a computer.

I have not broached the subject with the boss yet

Here's yet another one of my many sunset shots - Bill will like this one, its got a lighthouse in it. The light bean came around about every ten seconds or so, so I just counted 1,000, 2,000 etc and then held down the button on the cable release - and before anyone asks, yes I had to tweak up the beam slightly, it was just so faint, but I only did it sligthtly - honest.

My favorite is the "Heast View 2" I enjoy the soft colors of the sky and the wonderful blue tone of lake and mountain. It makes no difference to me how you reached the final image.

How many times have I viewed a sunset and thought, "If someone painted a picture of that, people would say, 'the sky could never look like that'. "

Raise your hand if you admire Ansel Adams. Do you know how many hours he labored in a dark room editing his photos? If he left the negatives in liquid just a few seconds too long, results could be drastically different than what he hoped to achieve. Be grateful for our one-click editing abilities in PS!

Don't believe any photo? I saw an amazing image of a Mongolian warrior on a galloping horse in front of a setting sun. The photographer said he paid the guy $10 to ride his horse back and forth so all members of the photography class could be assured of a try the same dramatic image.

Another image the same photographer showed was of an old chevy with open doors and trunk open parked in front of the doors of an old church in Cuba. Originally he saw the car parked across the street perpendicular to other cars. He paid the guy $5 to park in front of the church and open the doors. It was a great photo!