[00:17] db48x`: I have a question
[00:17] Or more a "how do I do this"
[00:18] Which is "how do I define for an Apple II item that the boot disk is in one drive and the disk in this item is in the other?
[00:20] Specifically
[00:20] https://archive.org/details/DualBootHelper_qkumba has been created to allow us to have a boot disk for Apple II floppies on the site.
[00:20] It does smart things
[00:20] Lets you get to cool stuff
[00:21] I want to say "boot with DualBootHelper_qkumba/DualBootHelper_qkumba.dsk in the first floppy drive and with the other floppy in the rest."
[00:25] This will make thousands of Apple II programs "do the right thing"
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[00:29] for MAME we do something similar to dosbox
[00:29] mame_peripheral_FOO, where foo is MAME's name for a peripheral
[00:31] if I recall correctly, for an apple2 that would be flop1 and flop2
[00:31] so mame_peripheral_flop1 and mame_peripheral_flop2
[00:32] https://archive.org/details/a2_Lode_Runner_1983_Broderbund_cr_Surgeon
[00:32] So, if I do this, I HAVE to set flop2, where before I didn't, right
[00:34] yea, that looks right
[00:34] Fails out.
[00:35] I'm setting up some test ones here, choosing a few across different realms
[00:37] OK, so.
[00:37] https://archive.org/details/3d0g_228a_Colossus_Chess_4.0
[00:38] definitely fails out
[00:38] At first I thought Lode Runner was freaking because it set ext_ to do and it's a .dsk and a .do
[00:38] I assume that's meaningless to the IA system, as long as _ext is SET, it's not making ANY smart judgements
[00:38] Ooh, Freeserv
[00:38] I'll debug it later, but for the moment just try deleting emulator_ext entirely
[00:38] So Colossus Chess is more "normal"
[00:38] I might have use for a Freeserv disc
[00:39] No can do - can't remove _ext or it won't turn on the player.
[00:39] So, https://archive.org/details/3d0g_228a_Colossus_Chess_4.0 is more close to the platonic "ideal"
[00:40] It's a .dsk, it's definitely got the item, etc.
[00:41] SketchCow: yea, that's something that should be fixed on IA's side; the loader definitely treats emulator_ext as optional
[00:41] Hank needed a way to know it was set - he could probably switch to just checking if "emulator" is set as well as type "software"
[00:42] that sounds reasonable
[00:42] but like I said, I'll debug it later when I have more time
[00:42] No problem.
[00:42] I'll play around a tad
[00:48] Definitely something goofy
[00:48] 1. You are correct, mame_peripheral_* has meaning
[00:49] 2. Setting the flop2 to something "wrong" makes it go red (good)
[00:50] 3. Setting flop2 to something "right" makes it load it, but then it all fails
[00:55] https://archive.org/details/3d0g_003a_Various_Games_and_Programs is an example of it working.
[00:55] If I put it in as 2 floppies it kind of fails
[00:56] If I set flop1 and flop2, as I have, it now works great.
[00:56] But I had to put the boot floppy in the same item
[00:56] Mame_peripheral_flop1 00_DualBootHelper_qkumba.dsk
[00:56] Mame_peripheral_flop2 003a_Various_Games_and_Programs.dsk
[00:56] So those set, it boots. but 00_Dual_Boot_helper.... needed to be in the item
[00:57] Checking mac to see if I'm doing some botardation
[01:08] Nope, something is definitely weird.
[01:08] So I'll leave the working example up and the broken one up
[01:27] I wonder if it doesn't like flop1 being specified twice
[01:27] like if the 'normal' loading process sets flop1 and then you
[01:27] 're also setting flop1 with this mame peripheral business
[01:31] Well, https://archive.org/details/3d0g_003a_Various_Games_and_Programs works great
[01:31] And that has flop1 and flop2 set
[01:31] I'm sure it's something with the "load from this item" thing
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[01:37] If I set mame_peripheral_* to itemname/itemimage, it fails.
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[03:34] * Sgeo_ vaguely wonders if it's worthwhile to try to make a self-extracting EXE via WinZip for IA emulation purposes
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[14:20] So, it occurs to me with this flop1 knowledge, I COULD experiment with bundling up two-disk items
[14:21] whoah 1 gigabyte of chinese apple II
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[17:14] Yeah, a party
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[22:54] There's a disc I broke a long time ago, and I can't find a copy anywhere online
[22:54] Should I buy a book just to get it and upload it somewhere?
[22:57] BetaArchives wants, for membership, something they don't already have. Suspect that this CD might count, but can't be sure