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Hillary Clinton has the GD NERVE to say , Republicans are terrorists but and yet she is scared shitless to debate Bernie Sanders .. The woman is not ready for prime time, not ready for vaudeville, not ready for anything except to be put out to pasture with the other cows.

She's thinks that she so freaken tough calling Republicans terrorists but she needs to be protected from-- Bernie Sanders!

How sad. This is the "best and brightest" that the Dems can offer? You deserve to go extinct. If Dems aren't plain evil, what are they? Calling Republicans Terrorists is a low point in American politics. You'd expect that from the Moonbats fringe like Harry Ried or Nancy whats her face!

How can you support a candidate for President who called the other party "Terrorists" As for Donald Trump, I have NO PROBLEM with legal immigrants coming to the USA, and I have no issues with those that have become naturalized U.S. citizens. Illegals, on the other hand, disrespect every individual that came to the USA and did it the right way.

Illegals must go.You gotta love it... Clinton, Sanders, O'Malley and now Biden... good Lord, is that the best that they can do!They bring crime to this nation; drugs and more, they also suck up huge numbers of dollars on healthcare, schools and charity while working off the grid, sending a large percentage of their earnings back to their *home country*.

Come here legally and I welcome you with open arms, otherwise, if you didn’t come here to be a good American citizen, if you consider some other nation to be your *home*, then you need to go home and STAY HOME.

No matter what you may think of Donald Trump, good or bad, you have to give him this point; he says what most only think and few have the guts to say

I do give the Rump credit for saying stupid sh*t that no rational person would say because it is stupid, bigoted, and without merit. But the Tea Party loves the stuff he says. Playing to nationalism, bigotry, and discontent he only needs to take hyperbole with zero specifics.

It's the low info and low curiosity folks that the Rump is targeting, the people who will select the nominee. A decided minority of the GOP and an even smaller number of the genersl electorate.

The Rump has succeeded in alienating hispanics, women, blacks, and most moderates. Dude is going nowhere.

The democratic Party is about as slimy as it gets...even the Blacks are Rejecting the Democrat Party, and that’s pretty bad, just about as bad as it can get. The blacks who have consistently voted Democratic are economically worse off now than they were during the Bush days.It was just a matter of time before the Black citizens realized the Democratic Party had robbed them of their independence, initiatives, and their intelligence.

I do not support illegal immigration at all. We need to have legal entry into America and have the vetting process eliminate any gangs, drug moguls, and criminals. The America that I knew growing up is now out of control.I don’t think that any sane American citizen would disagree with The Donald. That we must do something about these illegal invaders in these United States.Illegal immigrants do not pay federal income tax. Their illegal status represents a major expense to our taxpayers when legal citizens must foot the bills, while the illegals just skate by.I keep hearing the liberals argue that illegal aliens are characterized as people who “love America, respect her, and want to stay and continue to be ‘productive’ members of society”. What people don’t understand is that if you love something and respect it, take our country for example, then would you not want to follow it’s laws and become adherents to the American way of life? Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness is only available to those who’re willing to make the sacrifices and follow the laws.

Hey douchbag why are you here when NO body here likes you, in fact everyone here can't stand you.And the Queen of Russia is so in need of readers and people to give her an Amen to every piece of garbage she writes..

The Liberal’s or progressives or whatever these Sacks of Shit are calling themselves these days, conveniently leave out the word “illegal” when talking about those who came to this country illegally, in violation of our laws.

Those are the “Immigrants” that Trump wants to get rid of…The “ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS”. So tell me all you Smart Ass Douchbags, what in the world is wrong with that?No matter what you may think of Donald Trump, good or bad, it’s had to ignore this.I’m so sick of these jerks who constantly cry about breaking up the families, who come here and have these “ANCHOR BABIES” and expect to stay here because of that! . Most of these people are nothing but low life scum anyway, so who the heck needs these Vultures who suck the blood out of the Tax paying Americans!!!

The parents who are here illegally to stay and the get free education with FREE English classes, FREE school breakfast and lunch, FREE medical or medicaid, FREE or close to fee public housing, Food-Stamps, and get tax breaks even if they are not living in this country all at the expense of the American tax pays because illegal aliens pay very little id anything at all in taxes and if they do, they get tax breaks. Most ANCHOR BABIES are Hispanic because it is easy for their mothers to get across the border. Plus they are bankrupting American hospital emergency rooms.Now just in case you didn’t know it, I did the math for you... So Chew on this! 400,000 anchor babies born in this country each year.Medicaid alone paid $2.2 billion last year to partially reimburse hospitals for unpaid illegal alien delivery bills,A staggering 84 hospitals in California alone, have been forced to close their doors because of unpaid bills by illegal aliens. Hospitals which manage to remain open, pass the unpaid costs onto the rest of us,which translates into more out-of-pocket expenses and higher insurance premiums for Americans.In fact at one hospital in Dallas…Parkland Memorial Hospital (yes, the same hospital where JFK died after his assassination in 1963), a staggering 70% of all babies born are to illegal aliens.‘Anchor Baby’ Outrage: How Americans Pay BILLIONS for Illegal Alien Births. And then they get, FREE medical care, FREE food stamps, WIC, FREE education. shelter, etc and the tax payers foot the bill. What do YOU ger FREE?

Finished Chewing yet? I am so fed up with this Bull Shit I am thinking of not paying my next quarterly estimated tax, just basically telling obama and the feds to go fucking die somewhere, and take the illegal hordes with them.

This is criminal what these whore bastard politicians have been doing, and the anger it is inducing in both me and many fellow Americans is reaching a boiling point. If this is not stopped, and all illegal’s deported, with a wall built, termination of the 14th amendment mis-reading/elimination of anchor baby nonsense, massive fines/jail time for employers, and a total and complete end to all benefits for illegal’s, I will hope and possibly help instigate a civil war in this country, starting with "no taxes paid" days, where people refuse to pay any sales tax, and refuse to write estimated taxes or property tax checks, and pay their bills such as cell phones by subtracting all taxes off the bill, paying only the service charge! Now you can Finnish Chewing!

Leave it to those bleeding heart douchbag Liberals in the main stream media on those Liberals stations to dig up something that happened over a hundred years ago, when the Mexican immigrants who were taking jobs away from whites were forced to leave the U.S.A. I guess that they hate America also?

There is absolutly no doubt in my mind that people close to Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation may have been bought and paid for by many of these Muslim extremists seeking access and favors from the Clinton State Department.And that"s probably why Hillary Clinton, with full knowledge of the Clinton’s ongoing criminal enterprise , did everything in her power to keep the Clinton’s activities hidden from the State Department, Congress, the President of the United States, and the American people. Even to the extent of using text messaging and other schemes to avoid disclosure. Risking the destruction of the infamous email server rather than produce incriminating emails that could send the Clintons and their cronies to jail. Cover-up and obstruction of justice. But as we all know, that will never happen .. Send a Presidential candidate to jail? Are we kidding ourselves?If they couldn't get Bubba out of office for the disgusting, and disgracful things that he did, well, think about it!

I got stuck on your masthead picture and how the wife is holding his arm......I remember that touch, as a widow, and I see a lot in that touch. It's devastating, this loss.Thanks for honoring them, Lisa. xx

There is no 'free Obamacare.' It always amazes me how dummies on the right get their panties in a wad over this bullshit while the corporations are buying our democracy and robbing us blind. But, they're too stupid and led by the nose by Fox News, to realize it.

It's a shame that you morons don't understand basic finance OR human nature. Every family of 4 with an income of $95,000 deserves a $7k 'Lifestyle" credit.... e-r-r-r-r After all, the "New American Way of Life" is ALL about "fairness"!

And then there's Hillary, and Obsma, and Biden, and ass- holes like RN, and Shaw, and Ducky,and Dave Miller. And so many othe Ass-hole, and that's why this country is going on the path that it is, down the toilet!

Don't you think it's about time to Label the New Black Panthers as a "Hate Group"!!The Black panther party are an American terrorist organization and all the tap dancing around the subject is not going to change their statements and public actions and they have been terrorists since the 1960's of which there are still members wanted for murder..

The other evening a person asked me why I didn't like the Obama's? Specifically I was asked: "I have to ask, why do you hate the Obama's? It seems personal, not policy related. You even dissed (disrespect) their Christmas family picture."The truth is I do not like the Obamas, what they represent, their ideology, and I certainly do not like his policies and legislation. I' have never made a secret of my contempt for the Obamas, and I never will.. As I responded to the person who asked me the aforementioned question, I don't like them because they are committed to the fundamental change of my/our country into what can only be regarded as a Communist state.I don't hate them per definition, but I condemn them because they are the worst kind of racialist, they are elitist Leninists with contempt for traditional America. They display disrespect for the sanctity of the office he holds, and for those who are willing to admit same, Michelle Obama's raw contempt for white America is transpicuous. I don't like them because they comport themselves as emperor and empress. My dislike and my disrespect for the two of them goes back to the days that thet “sat in Rev. Wright’s church for 20 years and then told us that they “never” heard that “Preacher” say anything bad about America or about the Jews! Just how stupid and gulible did they think the American people are? Well maybe the progressives who kiss their rings and their behinds are that stupid and gullible, but we REAL Americans think that they were full of it then and full of it now. They sat there and listened to speeches that were full of hate for America for 20 year for heavens sake!! . Say what you like, I have the right to my opinion the same as others on this blog. The truth is that we have an egotistical, delusional president who has convinced himself that he is disliked by many Americans because he is black. And that can be no further than the truth. He is disliked because of his Socialist, and Marxist policies. And because he is sending our beloved country down the tubes. So no, Mr. Obama, no matter what you may think, we don’t dislike you because you’re black. And frankly that story is getting to be very old.Obama desperately wants us to believe it’s all because he’s black. Because if he didn’t have that excuse, it would have to be based on his policies and his performance.If it were because of his race then he would not have been elected and re-elected! I expect, no I demand respect, for the Office of President and a love of our country and her citizenry from the leader entrusted with the governance of same. President and Mrs. Reagan displayed an unparalleled love for the country and her people.The Reagan's made Americans feel good about themselves and about what we could accomplish. Obama's arrogance by appointing 32 leftist czars and constantly bypassing congress is impeachable. Eric Holder is probably the MOST incompetent and arrogant DOJ head to ever hold the job. Could you envision President Reagan instructing his Justice Department to act like jack-booted thugs?Presidents are politicians and all politicians are known and pretty much expected to manipulate the truth, if not outright lie, but even using that low standard, the Obama's have taken lies, dishonesty, deceit, mendacity, subterfuge and obfuscation to new depths. They are verbally abusive to the citizenry, and they display an animus for civility.I do not like them, because they both display bigotry overtly, as in the case of Harvard Professor Louis Gates, when he accused the Cambridge Police of acting stupidly, and her code speak pursuant to not being able to be proud of America. I view that statement and that mind set as an insult to those who died to provide a country where a Kenyan, his illegal alien relatives, and his alleged progeny, could come and not only live freely, but rise to the highest, most powerful, position in the world.

As for Michelle Obama, she is free to hate and disparage whites because Americans of every description paid with their blood to ensure her right to do same. I have a saying, that "the only reason a person hides things, is because they have something to hide." No president in history has spent millions of dollars to keep his records and his past sealed.And what the two of them have shared has been proved to be lies. He lied about when and how they met, he lied about his mother's death and problems with insurance, Michelle lied to a crowd pursuant to nearly $500,000 bank stocks they inherited from his family. He has lied about his father's military service, about the civil rights movement, ad nausea. He lied to the world about the Supreme Court in a State of the Union address. He berated and publicly insulted a sitting Congressman. He has surrounded himself with the most rabidly, radical, socialist academicians today.He opposed rulings that protected women and children that even Planned Parenthood did not seek to support. He is openly hostile to business and aggressively hostile to Israel. His wife treats being the First Lady as her personal American Express Black Card (arguably the most prestigious credit card in the world). I condemn them because, as people are suffering, losing their homes, their jobs, their retirements, he and his family are arrogantly showing off their life of entitlement - as he goes about creating and fomenting class warfare.I don't like them, and I neither apologize nor retreat from my condemnation of them and of his policies. We should condemn them for the disrespect they show our people, for his willful and unconstitutional actions pursuant to obeying the Constitutional parameters he is bound by, and his willful disregard for Congressional authority.Dislike for them has nothing to do with the color of their skin; it has everything to do with their behavior, attitudes, and policies. And I have open scorn for their constantly playing the race card.I could go on, but let me conclude with this. I condemn in the strongest possible terms the media for refusing to investigate them, as they did President Bush and President Clinton, and for refusing to label them for what they truly are. There is no scenario known to man, whereby a white president and his wife could ignore laws, flaunt their position, and lord over the people, as these two are permitted out of fear for their color.As I wrote in a syndicated column titled, "Nero In The White House" - "Never in my life, inside or outside of politics, have I witnessed such dishonesty in a political leader. He is the most mendacious political figure I have ever witnessed. Even by the low standards of his presidential predecessors, his narcissistic, contumacious arrogance is unequalled. Using Obama as the bar, Nero would have to be elevated to sainthood...Many in America wanted to be proud when the first person of color was elected president, but instead, they have been witness to a congenital liar, a woman who has been ashamed of America her entire life, failed policies, intimidation, and a commonality hitherto not witnessed in political leaders. He and his wife view their life at our expense as an entitlement - while America's people go homeless, hungry and unemployed.

. I happen to like Trump, I like the fact that he isn’t afraid to say what he wants to and the devil may care about what the media thinks. I like his style, I agree that perhaps he goes overboard in his manner of presenting his side of the issues at times... no question about that, but he says what needs to be said and the people want to hear a candidate say these things. And further I will support Donald Trump for as long as he is a viable candidate, even if it’s as an Third party candidate.

Look well upon the men who dig in mines,And work machines in mills and factories grim.Be aware that those who tend the vines Or till the soil give much for wages slim.Reaping sowing, weeding, hoeing makeFull the nation’s store of nutriment.Overland the burly truckers takeRich provisions and accoutrementCoast to coast. The teamsters load and haulEnormous hordes of stuff that we’ve empowered,Shipped in freighters, stored in silos tall,Delivered, well-displayed, and then devoured.Awards are due the goods and who supplies them,Yet the wise despise the guys who advertise them.

As for your response to the number of people that voted for Barack Obama because he's black, do you really think this stuff through? The Dem average with African American voters since 1976 has been 88%. in 2008, Obama received 95% for a bump of 10%, and in 2012, 93%, for a bump of 6%. Certainly he got more votes than the average DEM candidate over the years, but let's also remember that in two of those elections, a third candidate was pulling some votes too.

The standard tripe that Obama got the overwhelming number of black votes, because he is black, is false. he got the overwhelming number of black votes because black people perceive Dems to be more aligned and supportive of causes that community cares about.

Since you, and many other conservatives bloggers and commentors continue to push that narrative, false as it is, let me ask you this... Is it possible that Mitt Romney got the overwhelming support [62%] of white people simply because he is white? How can that logic be rue and applicable to the black community, but not the white community?

When Obama was elected, it wasn't Democrats who passed around photos of his wife as a monkey, it wasn't Democrats who put up photos of the White House lawn covered in watermelons, it isn't liberal bloggers who constantly refer to Mrs. Obama as a gorilla, it isn't liberal bloggers who call Obama a Marxist, Commie, Vermin, Jihadist, Christ-hater, America-hater...even on idiot who fancies himself a poet called his mother a whore and his father, who was accepted into Harvard University, an African savage! He even made fun of the Obama's two girls! Calling them monkeys! And that maniac gets all huffy when racist assholes are attracted to him and his disgusting racist and anti-semitic blog. Crap attracts crap.

Those characters who post here such as the self acclaimed “poet” has been playing the same pity violin tune since Obama won TWICE by the largest majority since EISENHOWER! The American people, not just African-Americans, supporte3d him and his policies, but that “Poet” and Skudrunner, and those dopy Rebels, and all the others can't adjust their thinking to accept that fact.

And good for Obama for renaming that mountain in Alaska, it's what the people inl the state, Democrats and Republicans wanted. It didn't matter to the angry haters, they found fault with even that small gesture to states rights. Nothing Obama could ever do would please that bunch of unhappy trouble-makers.. And you should worry about Hillary and her problems, worry about the Clowns running for President as Republicans, we can, and will take care of our Party

When people say the wingnuts are racists they scream in anger that it's not fair, then someone like Radical Redneck, Thersites, Free Thinke, Rusty Shackelford, Kid, and that idiot Tyrone Slothrop who can’t seem to even put two words together without insulting someone.. Skudrunner calls the President of the U.S.A. an "almost black president" and expect people to just say, okay, well that's just his opinion? And for the record, who is this Skudrunner character and in what part of the country did he grow up? Let me guess...the South? Or some hellhole in the North where hatred of black people is as bad as in some Mississippi swampwater? It seems so. Nice work, wingnuts you're doing a fine job of representing the worst in this country.

Is that right Chaw? I seem to remember a President, a REAL President, one with my same initials, winning two elections carrying well over 40 states. Also, the mediocre Nixon won one carrying 49 states.

When you copy/paste your idiotic bullshit try doing a tiny bit of research so you look a tiny bit less foolish when you spew that shit.

ps Obama sucks! And I am calling the air force when I see his simian wife climbing the outside of the Empire State Building!

Ronald Reagan was a gentleman, he showed respect for people, even those he disagreed with. You on the other hand Redass display none of the character or integrity President Reagan had. You are, plainly stated, a racist POS.

We have all heard the saying, Polls don’t mean a thing’ and that may be true, but I don’t base my opinions on polls, I base them on what I see and read, and lately I am seeing and hearing a lot of Democrats complain about Obama, his way of governing and the outcome of that governance.

Sure, there’s always going to be a strain of Democratic insanity that supports people like Obama and his cohorts, it’s inevitable, that is why it’s called insanity and why the Dems, in their current configuration, can never be allowed to take control of this nation again.

Speaking of insanity…The Hildabeast will not give up, she’s going to fight off Bernie Sanders, with tooth and nails. She'll drag the entire Democrat party through the mud before she is done. This bitch has no bottom, she is a Clinton. It has been proven day after day that she has committed a criminal offenfe and if all things were equal she would be sitting in a jail cell by now. It just shows the depths of their depravity. And these deaf and dumb Dims are still supporting her

Thus we are led to a true dilemma for Democrats: What if Joe Biden run for president?

That, I believe, proves the argument about insanity and the Dems suffering it. Personally, I think that Democrats are going to wind up BEGGING Hillary to leave.

Hey Mutt face, exactlu whis did I say that was not factual ? Unlike the lies you and your Lefty Loonies write and read on thst POS called Eruptions?How low can these idiot liberals support a lying, corrupt, grotesque bitch like Hillary ? Or is this all they have?

This “woman” if you can call her a “women” falsely blamed a video while standing over the coffins of the four slain Americans of the Benghazi attack. including an American Ambassador. Shame on the White House for what was done that day!.The coffins of Christopher Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen A. Doherty and Tyrone S. Woods were being returned to the loved ones One of the Father’s of the victims killed in Benghazi said that Hillary told him, “We will make sure that the person who made that film is arrested and prosecuted”! Shame on her for lying right to his face.

And now she’s in the middle of the biggest scandal yet! The thousands of unsecured emails about the ambassadors security arrangements facilitated the attack. This woman is dis-qualified for the highest office in the land...Hasn’t she done enough damage to the country!

And lets not forget that Obama ran off to Vegas to a fund-raiser immediately afterwards... And he wonders why he is disrespected by military and our veterans

Illegal aliens get welfare benefits, food Stamps, free education along with Free Lunches, from their anchor babies and from our dear leader! And we rant and rave about that ..Rightfully So may I add. This Country is a nation of laws, and they apply to everyone even Kim Davis as well as those illegal immigrantsHere's the thing. We are a nation of laws. When we become a nation of men, we are done. Finished. The great experiment will fail. Kim Davis can do whatever she finds right, however she took an oath to obey the law, and we should expect her to... And we should expect the same expectation for all government officials instead of looking the other way when they don't.

When that poor lovely young Lady Kate Steinle was murdered San Francisco, by that Freaken Drunken Mexican illegal immigrants it was made clear that the city was one of dozens of "sanctuary cities" across America that do not enforce Federal immigration law. Once again, no consequences. No nothing. Someone died because of the willful noncompliance, because the city chose to let the murderer go instead of handing him over to federal custody. Yet liberals hail these kinds of places. Why?

Man should obey the law, not make the law obey man.And in my opinion, Trump has it right, No More... anchor babies and birth-right citizenship, No more sanctuary cities, No more crime free ride for those employing illegal migrants masquerading as 'immigrants', No more well-fair (sic) and food stamp fraudNo more Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and Veterans Administration fraud, And No more reaching across the aisle to appease those lying leftist’s.But the Law is the Law, her "Religious Rights" are not the issue!!Should The Government's Official business in Kentucky be run according to her "Religious Rights? I don’t think so..

I agree with the Debonair Dude. She is in jail of her own free will , and she could be out as early as next week.

As an officer of the state she is required by the Constitution to obey the rulings of Federal courts and follow the rule of law .When ordered by the Judge to obey the Law of the Land she did not comply..Ms. Davis was elected to office and she took an Oath to faithfully obey the law, she . refused to do this, and made the decision to be jailed as a consequence, and she was. And so be it. Further, I think that she should be discharge for not doing her duties as it should be done. Lets not make a martyr out of her. Because sh'e not a "martyr"! She's just a petty, narrow minded clerk who refused to abide by the law..

Thank you, DD, for your earnest, sincere response. I agree with most of your statement, but at the same time I would advise EVERYONE to do his best to give due consideration to Thoreau's famous essay on CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE. It may be found at the following link.

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~hyper2/thoreau/civil.html

It's very popular to condemn the rank and file German citizens of the 1930's and 40's and low-rankng members of the Nazi Party –– a position I share –– but when we insist that the Germans should have DISOBEYED the Laws of THEIR Land during the atrocity that was Hitler's Third Reich we may be going too far.

If "the Law is the Law" regardless of how distasteful, immoral, depraved and corrupt it may be because the LEGISLATORS, themselves, are warped, callous, venal, self-serving, treasonous –– even MANIACAL –– then how could we condemn the ordinary Germans citizens for following their Fuehrer?

IF we apply such standards to the citizens of the THird Reich, then how could we NOT apply them to OURSELVES when some cockamamie "law" is FOISTED on us by the DICTATORS on the BENCH?

Isn't it our highest duty to obey the dictates of CONSCIENCE no matter what i may cost?

Kim Davis may be a bigot, a zealot, a fanatic, a fool, a hypocrite, an attention hog, or an absolute ass, but doesn't SHE have a right –– and a duty –– to place the dictates of HER conscience –– above The Law?

These are philosophical questions regarding matters of Principle and of Conscience. As such I think they are worth considering. They NOT a statement of MY particular views.

Humm, strange that RN was so impressed with the comment by "IAGNB", but when I said basically the same thing, old RN didn't appreciate it..Was it because I included Trump's name? Or was it because I made a derogatory comment about Obama?One has to wonder. That is if anyone really gives a dam.

So next year is soon at hand, I have money saved up in in bands, I will buy them crates and rifles too, Pistols just to go "pew, pew" I'll stack them crates a mile high. A 50 cal to wave bye , bye. If you trespass upon my spread , I'll fill you bastards full of lead.

Ducky's here September 6, 2015 at 4:59 PM...Rusty Chucklenuts comes home with a half gallon of ice cream. He asked his wife if she wants some."How hard is it?" "About as hard as my dick.""OK, then. Pour me some."

^That was hilarious back in 3rd Grade when I first heard it. You remember third grade - your case worker was so proud you graduated before your 21st birthday? First in yo' family.^

I don't like it either, Z, and I have tried without success to influence Lisa against letting her blog function as a Public Toilet, BUT it is HER blog not mine or yours, and we really have no right to tell her how she ought to run it.

I won't put up with out-and-out garbage at my place, but that's MY place –– no one else's. No one is forcing either of us to come here. When we do it's purely voluntary. Once in a while I try to make sensible remarks pertinent to the topic. Most of the time, however, I survey the wasteland with disgust, and move on.

I like Lisa a great deal. Her heart seems always to be in the right place. If she wants to believe that Freedom of Speech means one MUST put up with incessant idiocy, harassment, and flagrant abuse who am I to tell her she is wrong?

The "secret" to survival in the blogosphere is to be oneself at all times, but avoid taking "bait" when it's dangled in front of you, –– avoid responding in kind when you are insulted, bullied or deliberately misunderstood, –– and above all don't scold, chide, berate or get involved with "FEUDS" of any kind.

Speak the truth, as you understand it, quietly with dignity, and then walk away and let the chips fall where they may.

All of which is just another way of saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink."