Mike Bitonio took a savage beating from Vale back in the day. I mean fucking savage. They wouldn't let that kinda fight go on these days. I think Mike took a lot of facial reconstructions after that massacre too.

Vale has a lot of knowledge, but he's not a good fighter, and favours power moves due to his size, which he passes on to smaller guys who those moves don't work for. It also pissed me off that he repeatedly cancelled seminars and promotions connected with my original instructor's school.