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Oh stuff it. Your point is completely irrelevant. What do post counts have to do with anything? The people who are being vocal about it, are people that don't like the direction that Daum has taken in this case. There are a lot of people that are not happy with the changes, and are presenting legitimate reasons. Reasons that you cannot discredit.

That's my point. It is not a deterrent to the griefers because they can keep on coming back and follow/harass without consequence. This has already happened to folks including myself in-game that is why I am vocal about it. It has only been a few hours since the servers came back.

Out-kill a single player in that scenario..? I am completely convinced you don't know what you're talking about. The Karma system disallows us from out-killing players specifically those who are NOT in guilds. If we accrue enough negative karma guess what happens? The next time we die we lose shit, but the people that grief will receive no penalty whatsoever. If you're in a guild someone doesn't like for whatever reason they can just grief you. You kill the griefer? They come back.

Nothing is stopping us from killing them besides people trying to defend the spot they have been training and grinding at. I don't understand how you can't see that as being griefing. It's not about being entitled. Nothing is stopping us from continuing and farming at a different spot.. LOL? Why does that have to be the response to someone trying to take our spot? Nah, you're just dense. There was nothing wrong with the prior system. Now no one is going to want to grind, because what is the point. What level are you? They killed competition with this. Remove your blinders.

Hold up, HOLD UP. So you would be OKAY if you were at the grinding location before, and you were there for lets say a few hours. Then some random(s) come and try and grief you out of the spot you were grinding at? And you literally have no way of defending that spot without accruing a penalty for yourself? You would just give that spot up? Come on you're being just as dense as the guy I quoted. This new system is bogus for grinders. But wait, especially during an EXP event like what is going on currently. These areas will be packed, it will be a shit show. It's not about being entitled. This is literally just inviting grief.

Are you that dense?If we flag on someone that is constantly griefing our spot WE are at loss because we accrue a penalty, while the other griefing person/party doesn't lose ANYTHING. How does this invite more pvp when there are literally no incentives to wanting to PK them? Yay I PK'd a griefer who took OUR GRINDING SPOT, but what's this he's back and i'm short thousands of Karma.. That is totally balaced right?This is the dumbest decision I have ever bared witness to in an MMO. This quality of life change did not need to exist. This invites more drama. This has nothing to do with pvpers asking for more pvp.

Awesome structured environment to be in if you're looking for some great pvp, and a lively environment. Funny group of individuals. GvG's are a constant thing, definitely check this guild out if you're looking for A LOT of PvP shenanigans.

FFXIVI came from a hardcore raiding atmosphere beginning in Faerie and exodusing to Gilgamesh s/o to Elysium/DnT/Collision. The raiding life was too monotonous despite having the best raiding mechanics I have ever played in an MMO. Savage raiding was awesome. But yeah after a while raiding just got too monotonous and the PvP was subpar so I jumped ship to this. Still a part of the FFXIV community, and guild community FFXIV just doesn't draw me like BDO does atm.