#noagenda listeners will see the obvious attempt to conflate Jordan Peterson's "crazy" ideas with this meat cleanse him and his daughter are doing for health reasons. When, in reality, the results speak for themselves.

@PhoneBoy it's ok. You get to hear quite a bit more of the process that finally led her to the carnivore diet. And there is a bit where they kinda have a fight about why Americans are fat, Rogan says it's all about exercise, Mikhaila says its diet.

@PhoneBoy do you feel like you want to do exercise now that you have lost weight, feel healthier, etc.? I think that is where people get confused. It's like an argument about what comes first. But in the end a healthy person will do both.