Monday, November 14, 2016

It's interesting to see that the ethno-strategy that both I and Steve Sailer have recognized for quite some time now is being recognized. Steve, of course, recommended the conscious adoption of it as a political strategy. I, on the other hand, viewed it as an inevitability that some politician, whether Republican or not, was bound to figure out eventually:

Trump adopted the Sailer Strategy—whether he knew it I have no idea—and won handsomely. It would be wrong to impute huge numbers of down-market whites voting for Trump simply to racism, as many on the left predictably are doing. Quite a few Trump voters in swing states like Pennsylvania and Ohio turn out to have voted for Obama—twice. They wanted change, Obama didn’t deliver, so they gave Trump a chance to be the change-agent in Washington they have long sought. The roots of their dissatisfaction are social and economic more than racial, and bien-pensant efforts to portray their legitimate grievances as “hate” reflect the worst of post-modern progressive intolerance.

All the same, it cannot be denied that ethno-racial concerns played a role here—and that it was the Democrats who opened that can of worms. Since the beginning of the century, liberals have been crowing about the “emerging Democratic majority” being delivered by changing demographics, heavily fueled by immigration (legal or not). President Obama’s reelection four years ago seemed to conclusively prove that the “new” America—morally superior to the old, white-dominated one—had arrived, and the Republicans were on life support, waiting for GOP voters to go the way of the dinosaur. As one of Obama’s media acolytes hailed the 2012 victory:

President Barack Obama did not just win reelection tonight. His victory signaled the irreversible triumph of a new, 21st-century America: multiracial, multi-ethnic, global in outlook and moving beyond centuries of racial, sexual, marital and religious tradition.

This was more of the Marxistoid “right side of History” blather that Team Obama has indulged in for the last eight years—and it was utterly wrong. To the surprise of no one who understands human nature, many whites didn’t appreciate being told that they had to die off for “progress” to be achieved. They didn’t like being derided by their betters as “bitter clingers” with their guns and Bibles, and they especially didn’t like being termed “deplorables” unworthy of compassion or consideration. In the last days of Hillary’s doomed campaign, its contempt for a huge chunk of the American population had become so blatant that one of her top celebrity surrogates publicly hailed the “extinction” of straight white men as a step in the right direction.

Trump is no political genius. He made an appeal to working-class whites, who correctly felt that the Democrats viewed them with undisguised contempt and didn’t want their vote. The “emerging Democratic majority” thesis included the need to get some of those whites, a legacy Democratic voting bloc, to win national elections; under Obama, his party decided they didn’t need them at all, which was a terrible, almost incomprehensible mistake. It shouldn’t be necessary to point out that running against working-class whites—at almost 40 percent of the electorate, the biggest voting bloc in America—is the definition of political insanity.

Yet progressives somehow managed not to see the nose right on their face. Hence President Trump. What commentators term “identity politics” has now become normative, thanks to the Democrats indulging in it, and Trump is now aping them. It would be more correct to term this what it actually is: nationalism. Ethno-racial nationalism is an enormously potent political force; wise politicians know this and employ it cautiously. Nationalism arouses genuine passion and is a political motivator like no other, which it explains why a majority of white women voted for Trump, to the bitter consternation of outraged feminists.

Moreover, once nationalism becomes the main political factor, there’s no putting that troublesome genie back in the bottle. Politics become tribal, ethnic conflicts waged at the ballot box rather than on the battlefield. Having done most of my scholarly work on multiethnic societies like the Habsburg Empire and Yugoslavia, I can attest that the fires of nationalism, once stoked, are only put out with great difficulty—and that ethnically diverse societies that play games with nationalism are living dangerously.

Nationalism transforms politics from ideology to tribe. As Lee Kwan Yew, whose founding and prosperous running of multiethnic Singapore for three decades made him one of the most successful politicians of the 20th century, expressed it concisely, “In multiracial societies, you don’t vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion.”

The Republicans are now the White party, de facto, whether they want to be or not. American politics will never be the same, and 2016 looks like a landmark election in the manner of 1980, 1932, or 1860, each of which transformed the United States. Buckle up, it looks to be a bumpy ride ahead in the emerging era of competing American ethno-nationalisms.

The key phrase there is "whether they want to be or not". Cuckservatives will cuck. Conservatives will wax passionately about men being created equal. Jews will fret about anti-semitism. Mexicans and Asians and mixed-race people will posture about being called names. Liberals will cry racist, SJWs will cry fascist, and Nazi, and white supremacist, and every other name they can dream up. None of this matters.
Why not? Why was it inevitable that Republicans would become the White American Party while Democrats become the Not American Party? Lee Kwan Yew explained it very clearly many years ago. (I am, you may recall, not only a student of economics, but an East Asian Studies major as well.) “In multiracial societies, you don’t vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion.”

Ideology is dead. The USA is no longer the Anglo-American society described by de Tocqueville. It is now a multiracial society, and as unexceptional in this regard as all of its various predecessors in that regard. Therefore, all US citizens will increasingly vote in accordance with race and religion, just like the rest of the world tends to do. Liberals wanted the USA to be more like the rest of the world. Well, congratulations, liberals, but perhaps you probably should have been a little more careful about what you wished for.

And if you're thinking that mudsharking and race-mixing is the answer to multiracial conflict, think again. That particular outcome is considerably worse than you might think. You see, one of the things that leads to is the likes of me.

And if you're thinking that mudsharking and race-mixing is the answer to multiracial conflict, think again. That particular outcome is considerably worse than you might think. You see, one of the things that leads to is the likes of me.

Well with you it seems that society lucked out! With others not so much!

Life sentence for stepmom in death and ‘unbearable suffering’ of KCK boy fed to pigs

So, my dad just came over to admonish me for some of the stuff I've posted on facebook, because apparently I'm coming off like I want the start of the fourth reich or whatever, and some of my parents' friends are asking them if I'm actually a real white supremacist.

(As an aside, I'm not really sure what they would be talking about except I did note with some mirth that whites are starting to adopt the voting bloc tactic that all the other races in America have long used to great fanfare by the media.)

However, I explained to my dad that I'm not a white supremacist but a nationalist and that all movements need their level-headed troops and their shock jock troops (both he and my mom voted TRVMP). They are the former and I am (somewhat) the latter, and it doesn't do anyone any good if they start attacking me over some innocuous facebook posts.

Then I gave him my paperback version of SJWs Always Lie. He was excited to read it. Prolly would have given him Cuckservative too, but I don't have that one in paperback yet.

O/T slightly---This is a great analysis of the psychology of American leftists...https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2016/11/14/cognitive-dissonance-narcissistic-rage-and-psychological-projection-the-trifecta-of-liberal-neuroses/

It's very common, but it depends mostly on how you look. I know a couple mulatto kids that had issues where I didn't because I look white, had lived in 95% white areas my whole life, and had never been exposed to black culture.

Good. The idea that we could "progress" beyond race and nationality was always a preposterous dream, the fancy of a comfortable white majority with little serious competition from other races. It's time to wake up.

Hybrid vigor only happens when you can cull the runts. When you don't you just get bigger swings up and down. Mixed races luck out if they need an organ transplant, as they would need a transplant from someone who was mixed race with the same gene combo.

"Hybrid vigor only happens when you can cull the runts. When you don't you just get bigger swings up and down. Mixed races luck out if they need an organ transplant, as they would need a transplant from someone who was mixed race with the same gene combo."

Somewhat OT but the local senator had a top kek "he said, she said" encounter on a hiking trail with a leftist professor"

" 'I greeted [Corker] then told him how deeply ashamed I was to be from a state where our senator will not denounce Trump for boasting of sexual assault," wrote Haskell, who confirmed his account later in a telephone interview. "Corker has been silent on this matter and on the racism and hate that the T-monster has spewed into our country these last months."

And Senate Foreign Relation Committee Chairman Corker's response?

"If you don't like it, then you should leave the state.' "

" 'No, Senator," retorted Haskell, a British-born naturalized citizen, "if you don't like your constituents using their First Amendment rights to express their deep dismay and disgust at your failure to take a stand against odious statements, then maybe you're the one who needs to book the U-Haul van. Pack your bags and leave Washington.

"Take your silence in the face of Trump's vile words back to your Chattanooga mansion and ponder why a group of hikers — immigrants, women, LGBTQ, and Latinos — would be so distraught to see your smirking countenance sauntering through the woods," Haskell wrote."

"Take your silence in the face of Trump's vile words back to your Chattanooga mansion and ponder why a group of hikers — immigrants, women, LGBTQ, and Latinos — would be so distraught to see your smirking countenance sauntering through the woods," Haskell wrote."

That quote says it all. People who aren't American don't like American values. Quelle surprise...

VD wrote:Word seems to be he will waffle on deportation and tariffs. Have you been hearing anything about this?

FFS, settle down. Everyone was freaking about how OMG THE MUSLIM BAN ISN'T ON THE WEB SITE! Now it is. Does anyone relax and realize that perhaps 70 days before the man takes office is not the time to judge him on his actions?

As I have said before, I don't give a damn what he does so long as he builds the wall and significantly reduced immigration. The initial signs are actually considerably better than I'd expected.

So, everyone, settle down and stop looking for excuses to criticize or create drama. The man isn't even in office yet, and regardless, he is not going to preside in exactly the way you hope. He never was. Deal with it.

Anecdotal evidence on this: went into the office today for the first time since the election. “Ellen”, a colleague (white woman, straight, late 40’s, no kids, AFAIK never married) talked to me about the result. This is a career woman with a Master’s in a quant subject. Based on her demographics and other interests that have come up before, (veggie, some beliefs/ideas that sound New Age to me), I would normally bet $ that she was a Hillary or Bernie or even Jill Stein supporter. Nope. She had decided just before the election to vote Trump. Polling problems came up. She was aghast at the brazenness of the media. I agreed and amplified/concern trolled about what else they might have misrepresented about Trump.

She starts talking in hushed tones about how sick she is of the open bias against white people, including in the corporate environment. Every other group promotes and networks for their ethnic group—they’re even encouraged to do it, but it’s the most evil thing in the world if whites do it. I kid you not, she said this nearly word-for-word. Then the kicker: when the subject of the over-the-top reaction of the other side came up, she tells me that a friend of hers, a former colleague at Top 5 Bank X, had called and spoken with her. The friend is a woman from India. She tells Ellen that her department had discussed the election and “all of the white quants supported Trump”. This woman is worrying to Ellen that they must all be racist or something. Ellen tells me that she couldn’t tell her friend that the reason is because these other quants know that this Indian woman will cry racist if it’s to her benefit, but at the same time she will never hire a white into her department—any job opening will always go to one of her co-ethnics. I should mention that Ellen and I are friendly but not friends—generally we chat about various normal stuff when we happen to meet in the breakroom. I’ve only been at this job for about 6 months. Frankly I’m surprised but pleased to find out that a woman like her has recognized what is going and acted in her interest.

@36 "That quote says it all. People who aren't American don't like American values. Quelle surprise..."

I only partially blame the outsider. They've been completely misinformed as to who is American, what our values are, and what it means to be American. Before they get here they've heard the proposition nation stuff and not much else.

Spoke at work today with two wavering blue pillers. Traditional white male Canadians (hockey and beer). One told me he heard election may be invalidated because of electoral college something something. I told him 'won't happen.' Then I asked him where he heard this and he replied "CNN". My response was a game show VOID sound, and that the Clinton News Network is the propaganda arm of the democratic party.

Another mentioned how he was watching tv (yes, there's still some off them out there) and was pissed at how anti-male it was.

Blue pillers are coming around. I am waiting for the time for the Great Debate instead of these small skirmishes. Am setting the groundwork right now though.

The feminist harpies, btw, have been completely neutralized in my presence. ZFG by me. I can sense their are trying, feebly, to engage me but I have absolutely no time for them.

Yugoslavia was a dog's breakfast consisting of Serbia and fragments of Austria-Hungary jammed together after war to end all wars ended. The name can be translated as "Land of the South Slavs" which pretty much says it all.

Tito kept the place going by playing nationalities off against each other. When he croaked the clock started ticking, and when the Warsaw Pact was no more the alarm began going off.

Good thing no one's trying to run the US as a bunch of mutually hostile nationalities, playing one group off against others.

In cases like this, makes the death penalty more preferable. A life sentence makes us all pay for their crime

NYC paid $167,731 to feed, house and guard each inmate last year, in 2010 it cost more than $31,000 to keep someone in prison for a yearHow many non Asian minorities does it take to support with taxes the cost of their jailed co ethnics? /JK I know it would have to be net tax paying.

and ponder why a group of hikers — immigrants, women, LGBTQ, and Latinos

If latrinos are in the woods they are cultivating marijuana. I only know one other gay guy that enjoyed camping/fishing. The women kikeing are lesbians. Even the national park service is bothered by no nonwhites going to them.

SB Wright wrote:Anecdotal evidence on this: went into the office today for the first time since the election. “Ellen”, a colleague (white woman, straight, late 40’s, no kids, AFAIK never married) talked to me about the result.

pyrrhus November 14, 2016 8:07 PM For example, Yugoslavia was thought to be a nation, but turned out to have very few Yugoslavian nationalists, but lots of Serbian, Bosnian, etc nationalists.

In a similar vein, there was a story of a Belgian Army Captain who got overly peeved about infighting within his company, and called them to muster on the parade field. Gave the order, "All Flemish to this side, all Walloons to the other." When the sorting was done, there was one lone private left standing in the middle. He bellowed out "Well, I've got at least one Belgian in my company. What's your name, son?" "Private Goldstein, sir!"

"In multiracial societies, you don’t vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion."

OK - but notice something funny about western nations. There is a nexus of favorable economic and social interests that accrue with the adoption of the ideals of "egalitarian => meritocracy", that is in itself the common bedrock philosophy (or religion if you will) of the European races. There is a sublime recursivity of western political philosophy begetting better self-interested outcomes for the many, begetting an increasing uptake of the western political philosophy, ... the virtuous circle continuing as long as it is not upset.

Ask yourself this question ..... who, or what forces upset such virtuous circle?

Those that have not much cultural experiences with this dynamic .... yes .... but only until they do obtain said experiences ... non-western cultures, by degree, can adapt to the western political paradigm and many are in the process of that adaption (even during the current period when western nations are not now setting a very good standard for said adaption - the signal apparent in the virtuous circle is that strong ... it can prevail nevertheless.) So I would conclude that it isn’t particularly a lack of an innate cooperative nature among peoples of other cultures that is the problem (though the western political philosophy of the "egalitarian => meritocracy" is contingent upon it's strength of social dominance for it's proper operation, so care should be given to avoiding too much dilution).

So .... if is not the other cultures at large per se that have upset the virtuous circle as provided by the uptake of western ideals ... what is the source of this upset?

There is enemy within my friends, a virulent spinner of memes ... operating with unfettered ease, within the primary units of organization of the western ideals, .... within the minds of the western self-agents. Ask yourself this question ...... where have all the ideas come from that have gained traction from time to time within western nations ..... that seemed like highly idealistic ideas ...... but turned out not to be upon adoption? Who has been at the root among the neocons? Among the Marxists? Who is now at the root among those that pervert the true meaning of the egalitarian via politically-correct double-speak? Who is now at the root among those that are in favor of overwhelming the true "egalitarian => meritocracy" by way of cultural dilution? Who has been there all along, always operating within western culture, apart but influencing nevertheless? Influencing by way of shaping belief? By attempting to fashion the shape of western moral virtue? Who probably see themselves as the western people's moral superiors, and guides as such? Who have now shown themselves as largely false guides in this regards? People we should now pay no more heed to (at least for this time being)?

Related http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/11/14/three-things-that-happened-on-election-night-that-you-probably-havent-heard-about-n2245579"The Democrat Secretary of State who persecuted a Christian couple for declining to participate in a gay wedding, destroyed their business, and confiscated their life savings was voted out of office last week."

And http://www.gaypatriot.net/2016/11/14/no-lgbtqtiaaxyz-youth-are-not-committing-suicide-because-trump-is-mean/

If that is Alt-right fanfic, it is excellent fanfic. Even our gays own glocks.

OT: Shouldn't Paul Krugman come out to tell protesters to stop breaking windows because it will help the TRUMP economy? /jk Broken windows fallacy.

Actually, Steve, I said it would work for a particular type of crime, to wit, illegal immigration. In the same breath, though, I also said that the cost to society of having legal slavery is very high.

I mean, look at it this way; millennials are already coddled, stupid, arrogant, ignorant, over-indulged, and over-privileged. And let me say it clearly, if it wasn't clear enough the last time: ARROGANT and STUPID.

Add in some slaves for the worthless little shits to boss around from childhood on and we move them on the subhuman scale from maggots to monsters.

On the other hand, if they're auctioned off to do hard and dangerous labor to SoulessCorporationsRus, this wouldn't be quite so bad, but their density and the inherent conspiracy of slaves against the free means we'd have to pay to watch them and be on perpetual guard against servile insurrection.

That all said, though, just enslaving a couple of thousand would have 11 million of them heading south in a hurry.

I think Trump is initially going to try to create a native party instead of a white party. He outlined a whole set of goodies for blacks but it wasn't anything as crude as writing a check to them so I don't know how effective it will be. If they are for sale and can be purchased cheaply, no reason for him not to try to buy their votes. If he can get 30% of the black vote, that will cement the votes of the rust belt. Deportations will add NM, CO and NV. Decuckening will add MN, ME and NH. The Dems will be isolated and powerless for at least a decade as deportations continue and legal immigration gets shut off.

Tom Kratman wrote:On the other hand, if they're auctioned off to do hard and dangerous labor to SoulessCorporationsRus, this wouldn't be quite so bad, but their density and the inherent conspiracy of slaves against the free means we'd have to pay to watch them and be on perpetual guard against servile insurrection.

But it is philosophical influence of the Jewish kind the pushes for open borders elsewhere (or globalism, or misrepresenting the egalitarian as equivalent outcomes for those outside Israel, etc. etc.).

TRUMP MUST ENSURE HE TAKES NO JEWISH COUNSEL (except to sniff out what the crafty bad ideas may be, in the pipeline, and covertly act accordingly).

I like that, "Concern/Troll", perfect phrase, I enjoy the same types of conversations with folks (usually women), where I do the whole, "I bet you are really concerned about your (white) child fitting in with "city" kids at that school...what do you think you'll do Sharon?"

Your story is funny because I had a very similar situation a few months ago with a 50-something, divorced, tree-hugger type female at my office. She kept coding things with me, and I admit I was thinking I must be mistaking some of her hints here and there (because of how she looked) and eventually, she just started openly talking to me about how she wanted to live in an all white area, preferably state...no, make that COUNTRY.

We now talk in code (Spanish...I'm your token White Hispanic and she is a fluent Gringa). She was/is your typical silent Trump voter and white nationalist. She is otherwise liberal, and probably a lot like liberal whites in (formerly) white nations in Europe. But she isn't keen on sharing her world with (Brown) Latinos and Blacks and Muslims.

FYI I am a White Hispanic, married to an AmerInd Latina (Peru) with Mestizo children...we are 100 percent White Culture, just like early White/American Indian mixes, that eventually led to so many white southerners having Cherokee or Seminole blood.

@86, Too bad they teamed up with the globalist neocons to ship most of the unionized private-sector manufacturing jobs out of the country. They still have the government unions, but they already have a lock on those votes. It's at least 20 years too late for that strategy.

@42Not directly related, but I'll offer a few stories from this past week at work.1. Last Wednesday, heard two women talking in an office. One is talking about the election. She mentions something about the popular vote (my first clue this was a Hillary supporter). Shortly thereafter comes the bawling. Openly crying at work? Wtf? Since when do people cry about an election at work? Is this a female thing? Maybe if you're crying, you shouldn't be voting in the first place?2. A coworker comes into my office. She has a postgraduate degree. Starts telling me she's concerned that she won't be able to remain a scientist anymore. (Yes, I was confused about that, too.) Apparently, she thinks the orange-faced devil said something along those lines in a debate. Frankly, all I could remember from both candidates was their fawning over female vanity. I just tell her that's not what I heard but I'll keep an ear out in case it comes up.3. Today, ate with two women in my department. Both senior in age and experience, etc. Again, a science field. One is talking about how she did her part this year. She worked the phone lines. She had a yard sign. But it wasn't enough. "Apparently, we still can't have a female president." She cried on election night (another one crying!). Some happenings have happened in her children's "as Anglo-Saxon as you can get" school district. Nigel Farage and his Brexit. Australia keeping refugees off the coast... I keep my mouth shut the whole time, remembering the boss's statement that work isn't a place for politics. Part of me wants to say something. The other part is content and happy, but I didn't know why at the time.Later, it struck me: this die-hard race traitor Hillary backer has no clue. She doesn't know why her candidate lost, and she indicates no interest in learning why. Her only thought is that more sexism and racism are out there. Not one question about how her news media didn't prepare her for this result. Not one question to me, who she is at least aware travels in different circles. Nothing. So what'll happen next time? I bet she'll double down. And with no attempt to grasp reality, it will be just as fruitless.

Only because we do not have the political will to dismantle the PA and drive out those Arab villages that wont play ball.

Israels wall is a consequence of not having the ability to deal with the real problem due to entrenched interests, your typical 5th column leftist traitor faggots, and external pressure from both European and American governments.

Similarly, in my view anyway, you would be better off dismantling the federal welfare system, all federal education benefits, osha regulations, and especially the damn minimum wage.

Mexicans are not taking the jobs "Americans wont do" they are taking the jobs American employers dont dare risk giving to hungry American workers thanks tp the endless bureacratic regulations. And when you get rid of the incentive to hire illegals over natural citizens, as well as the endless freebies, you'll find that they wont have anything to come in for.

@75 Trump did very well with minorities, compared to normal Republicans, and that pushed him over the top. A number of the commenters here back that up. Intelligent, hardworking minorities want to live in a white european nation, not a 3d world hellhole.

The Soros-funded hard left is planning to disrupt Trump's inauguration. Even though 95%+ of all hotels within 25 miles of DC are either booked up or setting their room rates at >$600/nt, I would strongly advise all patriotic decent people to make a show of support on the day however you can. Numbers matter. It is time to drown out the thugs, anarchists, and sundry anti-western rabble. It is going to be another year of trench warfare between the new Trumpian GOP, and the Cucks (esp in the Senate), and the Narrative pushers in the MSM Hive.

@93 ":Mexicans are not taking the jobs "Americans wont do" they are taking the jobs American employers dont dare risk giving to hungry American workers thanks tp the endless bureacratic regulations."

Yup. A guy told me it's not even the wages, it's the legal risks. A Mexican work crew shows up, does the job, leaves. If something goes wrong they take care of their own.

US work crew might show up eventually, after the legal wrangling is done. There are minimum terms of employment, safety seminars, and if anything goes wrong: you're fucked. Lawyers, bankruptcy, prison. Endless attempts at lawfare. Unions.

This guy actually pays above minimum wage just to get the Mexican crew, because they act and work the way a British descended work crew should, not like a bunch of Bolshevik arseholes.

It's too early to say that the Republican Party will be a white party. It's definitely a label that the establishment does not desire.

We'll see what 2020 brings. The dynamics could be vastly different by then. If Trump does well I think the trend continues. If he bombs I see many of the whites possibly fleeing back to the Democrats, or maybe just sitting out.

@103, I think they'll find that more difficult than they expect. It's not like no one has tried before, but not every sector lends itself to unionization. In my own field of IT, there have been attempts to organize, but it's like herding cats. I don't think fast food would go much better. And as you say, it would speed up automation.

There may be some efforts in that direction, but I think for the most part, they'll take the path of least resistance by doubling-down on designated victim groups.

Race-mixing sucks because it creates a person whose brain, like their face, is a random mixture of incompatible features, like having a race riot inside your head. Marry a foreigner if you must, but keep to your own race -- the world has enough Elliot Rodgers already!

this guy actually pays above minimum wage just to get the Mexican crew, because they act and work the way a British descended work crew should, not like a bunch of Bolshevik arseholes.

Thats interesting. What you are saying that this is a mindset thing as much as a top-down problem. I remember Thomas Sowell wrote something similar, that post civil war black construction crews were much more competive to other crews because these were the former slaves that had ambition, and so some northern states began passing laws to make the environment less competitive precisely so that their local crews would get hired.

Wishing Star wrote:I've only been aware and the Alt-Right since Hilary Clinton spoke of it. God originally crafted us as one & we were much greater in that age.

I view globalism as us healing from a severe wound, painful but better for the body of humanity. Satan is perverting the idea of globalism. If Jesus Christ is our head we can unite. Do not be consumed by resentment and despair my white brothers and sisters. Your black brother, typing this message, believes God is not finished with us.

That's a nice fantasyworld you've constructed in your head there, lady, but we have to live in this one. And if you've ever spent time around ghetto Blacks, illegal aliens or Moslems, you'd know they don't think like you do. They will kill you just to improve the view.

I find absolutely stunning all this talk about subverting the electoral college. They do realize that would quite likely provoke a civil war, right? I mean, are they either genuinely that lacking in second-stage thinking, or are they that nihilistic that that kind of slaughter is just not a problem for them?

Zaklog the Great wrote:I find absolutely stunning all this talk about subverting the electoral college. They do realize that would quite likely provoke a civil war, right? I mean, are they either genuinely that lacking in second-stage thinking, or are they that nihilistic that that kind of slaughter is just not a problem for them?

I think it's linear thinking. So far, they've gotten away with pushing, pushing, and pushing again; so they always will. There will never be a tipping point where behavior suddenly changes, because people are predictable and if a trend ever reverses, it's smooth. No discontinuity.

Of course that's ludicrous, so maybe they're just gammas and aliens that can't understand normal white people and have to constantly test limits like an ill-disciplined child, to see what they can get away with today.

I don't know. It would take Miss Cleo to read their minds, and if they could explain their incomprehension, then they wouldn't have it.

Tito kept the place going by playing nationalities off against each other. When he croaked the clock started ticking, and when the Warsaw Pact was no more the alarm began going off.

Good thing no one's trying to run the US as a bunch of mutually hostile nationalities, playing one group off against others.

Nope. Yougoslavia vas a federation of hostile nations - except less than 5% wanted to fight against their State. Without massive wave of money from German banks and traitors accepting said money Yougoslavia would existed till today. Think an european India.

"Here’s how you can stop the Bolton nomination from getting off the ground. The Trump transition team is asking for input from the public. If you have a Twitter account, you can tweet your opposition to Bolton by directing your tweet at @transition2017.

Keep your message short, sweet, and to the point: “No to Bolton” will do, but get creative if you like." antiwar.com

I'm 1st gen Irish, not White Identity. But I know there are not many fans of John Bolton here. Get your anti-Trump anti-Bush friends and family busy tweeting if they didn't like Bush's policies. Common ground.

For anyone who, ahem, deplores this recent move of Whites voting their identity instead of ideology, your dear friend Jack has a good news. We can, absolutely, go back to Whites ignoring their ethnic identity and voting based on ideology.

Just as soon as Whites are 85%+ of the electorate again.

Actually, we might even make it as low as... 65 or 70% of the population - assuming women don't get to vote.

@116 Sometimes Fantasy visits our lives. Vox was very insightful about the media being compelled to acknowledge the rise of white identity politics. I've bookmarked Vox's blog, the substance in this article & discussion alone blows away much of what I've encountered online.

@108 I think it's as much that the Mexican crew can work outside the leftist-established trainwreck of laws, regulations, and good intentions. Basically, the American crew is forced to adopt an SJW fairness mindset - by law. The Mexican crew are shitlords that get the fucking job done.

Was this a strategic move to force the white working class out? I doubt it. I'd say the fourth and fifth law is "SJWs think reality is a hate crime" and "SJW's always fuck everything up as a result"

@105 I think you're ignoring the instinctual urges alluded to in the tale of Babel. Unity in Christ is real, but it requires hard and tiring work, we cannot simply expect the majority to achieve that consistently.

Parallel and peaceful nations are the way to go. The Swiss proved that with their Federation and Canton, where they moved to make each Canton either distinctly Catholic or distinctly Protestant; the result, a century of peace while the rest of Europe tore itself apart.

When proposed by the Left, this idea is called "self determination"; what exactly is bad about it, assuming peaceful implementation among people of goodwill seeking to defuse the conflict before it gets worse?

I think it's as much that the Mexican crew can work outside the leftist-established trainwreck of laws, regulations, and good intentions.

Well, that and the illegals have a harder time bringing a lawsuit or denouncing their employer to the authorities if there was any dispute. But Progs have been throttling that golden goose of theirs too lately, defanging La Migra and extending employment law coverage to illegals

And it's never really changed, from the Tower of Babel to the founding documents of the UN. It always comes back to trying to produce Heaven on Earth, and step #1 is establishing a global state/religion.

@93 Ron, I understand your sentiment about the Wall that Just Happens to Coincidentally Follow the 1948 Armistice Border Quite Closely. I'm not fond of it, while it definitely has an affect.

However, there is another wall, which is more relevant to the wall Trump wants to build, and that is the one that borders Egypt. It stopped cold our own Somali invasion problem, as I'm sure you know (it's like Minnesota in Bat Yam and other areas of working class Jews). Israeli Cucks only built it after 50K+ invaders made it past the porous border after one or more of their own were mugged by reality, literally. Come on, you support that wall wholeheartedly, I know you do.

I thought everyone here would like this. Apparently, there is video soon after Trump is declared the winner when he points up. This is the story:

We are talking about a political reporter for Ami Magazine for the Haredi public, Jake Turx, who is insistent on his Hasidic garb, who approached the President-elect and asked him, "To whom do you attribute the big win?"

Originally, Trump answered that "there are many reasons for the win," but the Haredi reporter pressed and asked again, "But what, in your opinion, was the main reason?"

At this stage of the conversation, Trump pointed - as can be seen in the video - with his finger pointed up toward the direction of Heaven, as if he was saying that the triumph was solely due to the Creator of the world.

Looks like you are the only one that remembered that. Should you not place a complaint with HR?

The other woman in the room was our mutual boss, the one who made the "no politics" statement. Sure I could raise a stir, but this is entertaining and kind of interesting, in a sick way. It's like observing disease progression.Also, I'm in a temporary position at the moment. Now is not the time for offense. That comes later.

According to the sea in and exit polls in 2012, 90% of Romney's votes came from whites. Using their 2016 data, I calculated that this time 87% for Trump came from whites. Only 54% of Clinton voters were Caucasian. The split is very clear

Daniel, that's part of it, but el Supremo looked over the problems of the country, came to the conclusion that it could not survive or prosper with a tiny white minority lording it over an indio majority, and decreed that Euros could simply not marry other Euros.

And, sure, Paraguay is an impoverished shithole, but that was always fated and it is, at least, an impoverished shithole where there isn't any ethnic strife, but only class strife.

Not much to add except that I think that if all of the incentives to be a minority were removed, you would suddenly see a lot of minorities become white and hopefully within a generation, think as white/mainstream culture.

For example, I have met a lot of folks with Spanish family names that were whiter than white, until such time as it was convenient to put Hispanic down on the college/job/etc application. Such set asides have a bad effect, as if encourages folks to see themselves as different, and make it easier to accept victim status if they fail, instead of getting back up and reentering the game.

One thing I was very much puzzled by but have come to accept from visiting this site is folks need to make a decision: Are you American or not. Not African American, not Mexican American, not Jewish American, etc.

If you have enough folks adopt that as their mantra, if you deport a 12 million illegals, encourage folks whose primary loyalty is to another state or ethic/religious group to emigrate, and close down immigration for non western European countries, well in 20 years you might get a new national identity without a civil war.

It occurs to me that periods of high national unity occurred after the Civil War and WWII where vast numbers of men fought together and had their identity formed by that time together. Certainly a part of Swiss National identity was crated by the citizens army, and Israeli uses the same institution to create a national ethos. Not sure how to do it, and I do not trust the government with a draft, but some kind of Military based service does seem to go a long way to making "one people out of many"

Not sure if that is practical or not, but folks should work towards some combination of the above, as the alternative is likely to be something like Yugoslavia.

@119Yougoslavia vas a federation of hostile nations - except less than 5% wanted to fight against their State.

That's dishonest, because once Tito was dead all the tensions that he'd been sitting on started to come to the surface, obviously not against the collapsing "Yugoslavian" state. Plenty were willing to fight against other "Yugoslavians", though. That was obvious in Bosnia, in Sarajevo, on the Albanian / Serbian border.

Without massive wave of money from German banks and traitors accepting said money Yougoslavia would existed till today. Think an european India.

America has had white identity voting for Democrats since before 1860. This is nothing new, except for radical Republicans transforming into a Democrat Trum machine. Then again, only a Democrat could bring back the white tribe politics in the US after all.

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