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Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr

If you want to argue against my position why not try to formulate an intelligent aguement instead of farting stupidities out of your mouth to the point that someone will figure out that you may be some typical chicken which us real veterans have absolute contempt for.

I can't find a "position" through all your babbling of paranoid hysteric name calling.

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Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

Wouldn't that depend upon "the sanctions" !! As we have seen in the past except for some rare cases UN sanctions are not worth the paper they are written on.

After 10 years of failed negotiations and sanctions. The end point is here.
This is the part where you back up the words with actions.

..and Obama and you are basically doing what Iran expects you to do ..NOTHING but making noise.

Obamachamberlain is busily saying we can talk talk talk more"peace in our time"...while also saying lets apply more sanctions which we won't back up when they ignore them!

Sanctions are worthless after those who apply them have been shown unwilling to enforce the reason for them with military force.

So go ahead TALK BIG...apply Sanctions....watch North Korea/Iran/whomever LAUGH in your face and do whatever they want because they know your full of it.

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I can turn you into a NEOCON1!!! in one second....
Russia invades Ukraine violating UN sanctions what should the USA do about it?
1. sit on its ass pass more reslutions and talk?
2. or say get the hell out or face a war?

You can pick #1 but remember I know you... and know your full of it if you do.

Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

After 10 years of failed negotiations and sanctions. The end point is here.
This is the part where you back up the words with actions.

..and Obama and you are basically doing what Iran expects you to do ..NOTHING but making noise.

Obamachamberlain is busily saying we can talk talk talk more"peace in our time"...while also saying lets apply more sanctions which we won't back up when they ignore them!

Sanctions are worthless after those who apply them have been shown unwilling to enforce the reason for them with military force.

So go ahead TALK BIG...apply Sanctions....watch North Korea/Iran/whomever LAUGH in your face and do whatever they want because they know your full of it.

/////////////////
I can turn you into a NEOCON1!!! in one second....
Russia invades Ukraine violating UN sanctions what should the USA do about it?
1. sit on its ass pass more reslutions and talk?
2. or say get the hell out or face a war?

You can pick #1 but remember I know you... and know your full of it if you do.

I just ID's who you are !!!

The point is this we are in no position to go after Iran militarily and I have, am, and will blame that pin headed bufoon from Texas who got us into the Iraq war. What makes me not a NEOCON is that I knew that invading Iraq was stupid.

We of course needed to go into Afghanistan and I said here and in the other forum that we should have operated in Northern Pakistan unofficially a long time ago.

With our hyper stretched military the best that can do with Iran is try to fomemt a civil war inside the land of The Rotten Pistachio !!!!

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Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

After 10 years of failed negotiations and sanctions. The end point is here.
This is the part where you back up the words with actions.

..and Obama and you are basically doing what Iran expects you to do ..NOTHING but making noise.

Obamachamberlain is busily saying we can talk talk talk more"peace in our time"...while also saying lets apply more sanctions which we won't back up when they ignore them!

Sanctions are worthless after those who apply them have been shown unwilling to enforce the reason for them with military force.

So go ahead TALK BIG...apply Sanctions....watch North Korea/Iran/whomever LAUGH in your face and do whatever they want because they know your full of it.

/////////////////
I can turn you into a NEOCON1!!! in one second....
Russia invades Ukraine violating UN sanctions what should the USA do about it?
1. sit on its ass pass more reslutions and talk?
2. or say get the hell out or face a war?

You can pick #1 but remember I know you... and know your full of it if you do.

Damn you sure are good at talking tough. But situational reality seems lost on you. You bellow for war but it appears that you are oblivious to the military situation we are currently in.

We are currently facing a crisis in Korea that bodes potentially far worse than anything we are facing with Iran right now. As much as you run your mouth about Obama "doing nothing" what would you solution really be in this situation? I'd certainly like to hear it General Patton.

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Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

Originally Posted by F107HyperSabr

If the 'good' side could win that would be a good thing if it wasn't for the fact that it would disrupt oil supplies. I would like to see a quick sort of violent but not too violent revolution with the "right wing extremists" being deposed. That would still cause a serious blip in the oild prices but hopefully not too much of a blip.

I think a better (and more likely) outcome would be this:

1. The protesters demand - and eventually receive - a new election, in which Mousavi handily trounces Ahmadinejad.

2. Rafsanjani directly confronts Khamenei, and convinces the Assembly of Experts to send him packing. The Assembly then names Rafsanjani the new Supreme Leader.

3. Rafsanjani, Mousavi, Khatami, and other reformers develop a new constitution, which strips most of the power from the Supreme Leader, mandates popular election of the Supreme Leader, and prohibits any restrictions on which parties/candidates can run for office.

4. Iranian liberals win the next election in a landslide.

Last edited by Kandahar; 06-15-09 at 11:44 PM.

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Re: Riots erupt in Tehran over 'stolen' election

According to the Cyrus News Agency, Tuesday morning 16 senior members of Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps were arrested. "These commanders have been in contact with members of the Iranian army to join the people's movement," CNA reports. "Three of the commanders are veterans of Iran-Iraq war. They have been moved to an undisclosed location in East Tehran." This report has not been confirmed by other sources. If true, it shows that the regime is losing the loyalty of some members of its control appartus, which is necessary if the opposition has any chance of achieving fundamental change. Mass rallies can easily be broken up and revolutions crushed, as we saw at Tiananmen Square in 1989. But if members of the armed forces, police and especially Revolutionary Guards decided to switch sides, then one can begin speaking of revolution.