Hi all ,my first post I recently saw "`The Protector" ,as you surelu know,the Tony Jaa movie..As I was watching this,I was thinking to myself :are these techniques actually "dodgeable" ? if one gets in such speed in lock,is there a place in these miliseconds to avoid the break ? and furthermore,is really such breaking of bones so simple ? doesnt it require considerable strenght,not just cranking it like tree limbs ? ..yes i know its a movie,but still curious - what techniques could eliminate such attacks as Jaa used ?

Thanks very much..Judo you say ? Its funny i didnt ask my mother first,she was junior judo champion in our country...mybe she would have a clue also Well, thinking retrospectively,I see that the opponents were sort of really a bit passive,and nontrained fat,regular guys...Nobodys going to wait until you break his limb,I think most of uke would try to push some sort of direction away from the lock,tensed limbs,some sort of resistance,not waiting and doing nothing..but maybe here works the stun ,shoc moment...thats also possible...but personally I think,the main advantage of what he was doing in the movie,was the way he executed it,very fast,strong and accurate...i think the speed is important here

Taison, I have to disagree with you on some of your statements, specificaly not being able to break a femor. Not only did Forrest Griffin do it to a reporter (true, a fighter will not stand there and let someone just throw a #10 to the thigh), but I have been taught several 'Gravity kicks' that, if timed right, are designed specificly to break that biggest of all bones. And they work. Most are set up off of your opponents bad habits (eg setting the rear leg down in front after a rear leg teep, or setting down too deep [like a western boxer] on the front leg for a punch), and they look alot like Tony Ja's fantastic, scripted moves, but work well (again, if times right). Oh, is the Marine Disco still open in Pattaya? Havn't been there in years, but spent quite a bit of time in Samisong Roayl Marine Barracks just outside of Patty. Sawadee.

Ong Bak 2 [Tony Jaa] came out in 2008. A truly mixed martial arts movie. There are even wing chun theories implicated in his fights. I think it's very possible to break bones not just joints. Of course the femur would be the toughest to break but I think it can be broken with an open palm or chop using internal strength.