Those "fine examples of American manhood" put every single member of the armed forces stationed over there in greater danger by posting that online. Does Mr. Lonsberry really think that terrorists are shaking "in their sandals" after seeing this video? Of course not. If anything, it helps them recruit new people to step up and replace the ones who die in battle. To critcize the leaders of our armed forces for speaking out against it is just ignorant. They. Had. No. Choice. To do otherwise looks like the country endorsed it and, again, it makes things worse. Do things happen in war that we don't want to know about? Yep. But is it right or smart to show it to the whole world? No. Practically, it is counterproductive and endangers the men and women overseas. Morally, it cheapens us all and makes us no better than the enemy who thinks nothing of doing it to our people.

Have we forgotten a video of a young journalist screaming while his head was being hacked off ON CAMERA?
Can anyone explain why we hang on to the myth that we are genteel here when it comes to war?
The lesson to be learned here is to keep your video to yourself, young men, because the brass sure will toss you in front of that dreaded bus in order to follow some sort of weird credo that only the tree-huggers care about.
Carry on.

I'm currently in Iraq and as a U.S soldier this is not how we want to represent the great nation of the U.S. Regardless of how we feel we must take the high road as as U.S. citizen or soldier. I see the people in this county that thump there bibles don't see it this way. We have to be above the other countries that embrace this type of behavior. The last time I checked we are a loyal and god fearing country unless we decide to adhere to the bible when it applies to us. Please we are more intelligent than this. I'm over here as I type this response and please let's be civil and the more mature country and and not accept this type of behavior. I don't believe we should punish these Marines to a harsh penelity however, we have to stand for something other than ignorance.

PS. Terrorist, by definition, don't need any provocation to perform terrorist acts--they are terrorist. Last I check, peeing on some dead terrorist was not equal to cutting the heads of live people, but maybe you see it that way.

These guys took a pee! What the heck is the big deal? My word, should this really even be a discussion? They took a pee? They are seeing their friends die, dealing with things most of us will never comprehend, and not having the luxury of being able to trust the people they are there to help and so, they took a pee! Seriously, I can't even see what the deal is here. Poor guys are probably in a world of crap now because they did something that soldiers do. Happened there, happened in the first Gulf War, happened in Vietnam, Korea, WWII and probably before that. Give our guys a break. I think they have shown tremendous restraint in ONLY people on there murdering, terrorist animals.

I understand the anger and the desire to get our enemies, but is it right to desecrate the dead bodies of fellow human beings in this way? Imagine if enemy soldiers began mutilating or desecrating dead American soldiers, would y'all be so happy then? This sort of behaviour is unacceptable and not befitting the high standards of conduct that soldiers in a Western army should display. Imagine if that was the body of your son being p*ss*d on and say you would be ok with it.

...and no, I am not a progressive liberal either. I am a conservative with a sense of morality and basic decency. Nazis and communists behave in this manner and condone it, not the forces of freedom. Don't forget who we are, in the determined effort to defeat our enemies.

What do you mean, what if they started doing desecrating the bodies of our dead? Where have you been? They have a history of desecrating the bodies of our fallen and the living. This is not about if I saw them peeing on my son how would I feel. This is about a few Marines taking a piss. A far cry from cutting peoples heads off, dragging them bodies through the street, mutilation, etc. The fact that you cannot see that shocks me. You are saying it is ok for us to shoot, bomb, beat up, stab and napalm the enemy, but OH NO!!! DON'T TAKE A PEE ON THEIR DEAD BODIES!!! Seriously? That doesn't even make sense.

These guys urinated on the DEAD bodies of some murdering, sadistic, terrorist. Big deal! Not like the former terrorist care (they are dead, after all). Even so, MY GOD, it was just a little tinkle on some badies. How is this some huge moral question?!?!?

I agree with you that this was totally unacceptable. I am a vet of over 20 years’ service including Nam - and Gulf 1 among others people don't even know about. However, the environment plays havoc on the mind in those conditions. This was viewed across this media to people that can’t even imagine the scope of what these soldiers endure. No sleep and 24/7 fear of anyone around you that may take your life. Although this was not what is taught to the military, momentary stress relief takes many forms. These men know what they did was wrong but at the time it happened, I guarantee you it was accomplished due to venting and relief that another person eager and willing to end your life is out of the picture. Disrespect, I’d bet, never entered their minds. It is impossible for people not under their conditions to condemn something they don’t understand.

I like how you put this, Anon.
The part about stress relief.
I have a friend who was among the first wave of reserves sent over to Iraq and he's got some horror in the brain. And he's a former Marine.
These young men should not have recorded this so it could be leaked (no pun intended) to the world. The rest of what they did? I have no problem with it.

You are right on the money. Soldiers are soldiers. People here in their sweet houses and comfy lives will never understand what those on the front line go through--especially in this way and in this war zone.

People over here need to wake up a little and cut a little slack to our guys. Give them an article 15, doc them a months pay and move on!

If you understood the military as it relate to current events in the media, we are not to associate our names to matters such as this because of what we do. We are not allowed to give and opinion via any social networks or in public. I have no reason to lie about what I do because I'm very proud to serve. I just hate for civilians that never served and sit on there couches all day give opinions and can't speak intelligent on matters and has so much hate in your heart. I do return on Feb 4th and I will be glad to put a face with these writings. I have family in Spaulding county however, I'm station at Fort Benning. Just let me know. P.S. 22 good years of service and still going..

Then I suppose we should stop putting them in the ground, performing autopsies or cremating anyone. Someone somewhere considers those actions desecration. You feelings on this are not any objective standard but just a cultural sensibility. Everyone else in the world is looking at this and thinking "what is the big deal". Terrorist are laughing at us for getting so worked up over this because they would and do perform real acts of desecration.

You are probably some 50 IQ, tough guy wanna be, who uses "tough-guy" bravado to compensate for something small.

As for citing the enemy beheadings, do two wrongs now make a right? Do we abandon our moral high ground and become like the evil we are trying to defeat? The problem with fools like you is that you act first and engage your brain afterwards. If the wars in the Middle East are wars of winning hearts and minds, as the political establishment of both parties acknowledge that it is, then how is this sort of behaviour going to achieve this objective? This behaviour will be a recruiting tool for Al Qaeda, who will use these images to provoke anger and gather recruits to kill even more Americans. Also, soldiers, like others, are employees of the government and the constitution is there to limit the power and actions that agents of government may engage in. Would it be acceptable for a police officer to pee on a suspect, or any government employee to behave in this way? Why should such basic codes of conduct not be applied to soldiers? Do SWAT teams pee on the suspects they shoot and kill in a raid on a house? Of course not.

I am surprised that something so obvious, rudimentary and basic must be explained to another adult. Even a child understands cause and effect, and the desire to seek revenge for grievances.

You have met the daily idiot quota. Thanks for playing. Your complete lack of grasp of reality and perspective is truly astounding. I am quite positive you are patting yourself on the back for your attempt (emphasis) on being insult while at the same time calling me an tough guy wanna be. You gave me something to laugh at over the next few days (just like your wife every time she sees you naked) and I thank you for that.

i do feel proud...cause i see america for what it is..a second rate country who gets off by bullying other countrys and stealing their wealth..case in point...why was saddam captured and given a trial but osama bin laden wasnt??...he was murdered by the so called all mighty usa

I am still willing to buy you a ticket to whatever country you think is better than the United States of America? I am more than happy to send you on your way to Iran, North Korea, Cuba, Russia, China, Afghanistan or wherever you want to go. Since the USA is so bad, then obviously you know of a place that is much better. Just let me know where you want to go and I will buy the ticket. I'll even pay for you to go first class.

PS. Osama Bin Laden was a murdering terrorist animal who believed women should be stoned for driving on their own, they should be able to be married at the age of 12 (and younger) and helped finance the killing of tens of thousands of innocent people world-wide (including his own people). He was actively engaged in terrorist activities and was shot during a gun battle with Navy Seals (which shows what an obvious incompetent idiot he was). That all said, I knew he would be a personal hero of yours.

Let me know when you are going to Griffin. I would love to meet you and shake your hand for serving. You must have read a different rule book because, my boss was a Ranger and he never gave up his Freedom of Speech. He did limit it several times to name, rank and serial number....yep, two tours during Vietnam. Much pain in his stories.

I note that not one part of your reply was directed at arguing against the points I made and instead was a rather sad attempt to save face with pointless comments. Until you grow up and actually get a grasp of the issues and an understanding of what the coalition forces are actually trying achieve out there, then perhaps you should keep your ignoramus, hick comments to yourself? The only quota that has been reached today is my quota of tolerance towards people with extremely low intelligence. Now do us all a favor, take your mental illness pills and give the tough guy act a rest.

"I note that not one part of your reply was directed at arguing against the points I made..."

I will help clear up your confusion due to your lack literacy and critical thinking skills: you made no points so I had no points to argue against. Understand now? What you did was make a weak attempt at being insulting and failed. Your perspective on this subject is without merit and so not really worth addressing. Besides, I really don't want to make you cry.

...and you are stupid enough to call someone weak whom you have never even met. Real smart. I think it really is safe to assume that you are mentally ill. Maybe your mother dropped you on your stupid head as a baby, or maybe you had to learn degeneracy and stupidity?

Hahahaha...come on, now. You are just embarrassing yourself. You finally have given up any pretense of trying to be intelligent and gone right for what amounts to Junior High "oh yeah...". I must have hit a nerve with the "weak" comment. Based on your reaction that must have hit close to home.

Seriously, you need to give up on this. You are just making yourself look more and more pathetic. Perhaps you should stay off the internet. You obviously don't have the wit or temperament for it.

C'mon James. Since the idiot pissed off the Pope, (and 77.7 million American Catholics) when he comes for me, I will just say, "I am on the way to Mass. I would even consider inviting you but there is not enough "blessed wine" in the world for them to let the anti-Christ in. So be gone...evil one!"

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