1) Godzilla vs. King Kong: Godzilla (By the time Kong got in close enough to punch, he'd be incinerated)

2) the Rancor vs. the Sando Aqua Monster: Pass

3) Unicron vs. Fortress Maximus: pass

4) Metroplex vs. Trypticon: pass

5) The Stay-Puft Marshmellow-Man vs. The Blob: Sta-Puft (I'd PAY to see that fight)

El Chuxter

10-21-2004, 03:25 PM

Even the title of this reminds me of an old thread I started: Comic character showdown: The ultimate geekfest! (http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showthread.php?t=19449&page=1&pp=10). But no big deal. :D

Star Wars rounds:

1) Darth Maul vs. Count Dooku
Dooku. His brains would triumph over Maul's brawn. Besides, Obi-Wan beat Maul alone, and Obi-Wan and Anakin together weren't able to take Dooku.

2) Darth Vader vs. Darth Sidious
Hasn't this already been decided, in ROTJ? :) Even if we're talking about the height of their powers, Vader still could take Palpy, though it would likely always be fatal to both.

3) Qui-Gon Jinn vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi
Assuming the height of their powers, I'm going with Qui-Gon. Though it was disproven in AOTC that Qui-Gon's master was a very aged alien (as stated in the TPM novel), the statement about him being the greatest swordsman his master had ever seen still stands.

7) Boba Fett vs. Jango Fett
Only one of them didn't go out like a b***h. And Boba's fellow clones have proven to be crappy warriors. Jango wins.

8) Aurra Sing vs. IG-88
This would be a fun one to watch. Despite the odds being against her, I think Aurra Sing would win in the end. It really could go either way, though.

9) Durge vs. Bossk
I really hate to say it, as I loathe the "character," but Durge takes this one. A reptile who regrows limbs vs a blob ripoff who laughs when impaled through the head with a lightsaber? No contest.

10) Princess Leia vs. Padme Amidala
Padme's a bad-arse babe, but her daughter could whip her butt in any contest (including the bikini competition :beard:), so Leia.

Star Trek Rounds:

I'm probably going to do pretty meh on these, since some of these names aren't ringing bells, but you said all or nothing, so here's my attempt.

2) Xindi Reptillian vs. Vossk
Who what when where why? I flipped a coin, and it told me Vossk, who I must assume is a Trandoshan who wandered into the wrong universe.

3) Captain Kirk vs. Spock
As stated in an old episode of either SNL or In Living Color, "I'm also a better director than you." Spock would whomp Kirk good!

4) Klingon vs. Romulan
Never bet against a Klingon.

5) Captain Picard vs. Data
Picard could merely pour hot Earl Grey into Data's circuits, frying him like a chicken. Okay, hopefully it would never come to that, since they're two of the best Trek characters ever.

6) Q vs. The Borg
Inconclusive. I have no idea. This is like Mr Mxyzptlk vs the Phoenix. Since I have to pick one, I'll assume Q has enough silliness power to frustrate the Borg to death.

7) Captain Sisko vs. Worf
And especially never bet against a good guy Klingon. Worf.

10) Species 84972 vs. the Hirogen Hunters
Species 84972. Although I have no clue whatsoever who either of these are, the fact that one isn't even given a name makes it sound very, very dangerous.

Transformers

1) Optimus Prime vs. Jetfire
Optimus Prime by a long shot. All continuities agree on two things: Optimus Prime is the mightiest Autobot, and Jetfire is a glorified scientist with questionable loyalties.

2) Megatron vs. Starscream
A long-running, inconclusive struggle, but I'll go with Megatron. Even if he has to die first and come back as Galvatron.

3) Ultra Magnus vs. Ironhide
Ironhide is a much cooler fellow, and we all cried like babies when he died to make room for that Prime-repaint punk, but Magnus could take him down.

4) Shockwave vs. Galvatron
The cold power of logic vs. . . unlimited powers that can be called only magical? Galvatron.

Superheroes

1) Superman vs. Lex Luthor
Superman always wins in the end.

2) Batman vs. Joker
Eventually, after years of entertaining (and sometimes disturbing) fights, Batman will win. Even if the Joker snaps his own neck and frames Bats, Bruce will still somehow come out ahead.

4) Spider-man vs. Doctor Octopus
Another of those pretty even matchups where the hero has only a slight edge, so Spider-Man, whether movie or comic.

5) Wolverine vs. Magneto
I don't care if Logan did just chop off Erik's head a few months ago. On paper (and not on comics pages), Magneto's powers are more than enough to overwhelm a healing factor. When Marvel finally got around to answering "What if Magneto just yanked the adamantium out of Wolvie's body," they did such a poor, unrealistic job of it that it was laughable. I think it would be fatal, or at least incapacitating enough to allow Magneto to finish him off.

7) Lana Lang vs. Lois Lane
Lois Lane had a hardarse military father, so presumably has better fighting skills if it comes down to it

8) Dr. X vs. Neo from "The Matrix"
You're referring to Professor Xavier, right? If not, I have no idea who Dr X is.

Neo has unlimited powers within the simulated world of the Matrix, and no notable powers in reality (correct?). Professor Xavier is a mutant whose powers are only matched in the real world by Phoenix, Apocalypse, Franklin Richards, and possibly Magneto; and in the Astral Plane (similar to the Matrix in many respects) by Phoenix and the Shadow King. Also (never mind that it narrowly beats out the Spider-Clone fiasco as the "Marvel storyline we'd most love to forget"), he once went bonkers and became the Marvel Universe's mightiest villain, killing all of the Avengers and Fantastic Four. So Professor X wins easily.

9) The Hulk vs. Bane
I love Bane to death, but the Hulk has "incalculable" strength (Marvel's words, not mine) vs Bane's super-steroid enhanced isn't a contest. Especially if it's Joe Fixit or "Smart Hulk," who add considerable brains and a cunning streak.
Bane would be able to tell Banner was the Hulk just by looking at him, though, if that counts for anything. :)

Horror-Sci-Fi Shockers

1) Dracula vs.Wolfman
Immortal vs lycanthrope. I'll go with Dracula, especially since he, too, can become a wolf (but has control over when he does so).

2) Mummy vs. Frankenstein's monster
All Frank wanted to do was dance, and he had a hard time because of his Abby Normal brain. But the Mummy is evil. Evil, I say! Okay, kidding aside, undead has a distinct advantage over merely re-animated.

3) Alien vs. Predator
The Aliens are nasty, and individual match-ups will yield different results, but on the whole, the Predators would win.

5) The Terminator vs. T-1000
One-on-one, with no Sarah or John, T-1000.

6) The Ghostbusters vs. Men in Black
Although in all honesty, Peter would smooth-talk his way out of the fight and they'd all laugh about the misunderstanding over a few beers, I think the Men in Black have an edge given that they actually have some combat-type training.

7) Van Helsing vs. Michael Myers
I don't see why Van Helsing would want to fight an incredible funny actor. That's just silly. :) Or if we're talking about the other Michael Myers, well, still Van Helsing.

8) Spawn vs. Blade
Spawn by miles and miles. Another case of a pretty tough cookie up against a being of limitless powers.

9) The Crow vs. Buffy the Vampire Slayer
The Crow. Unless it's the far-superior Kristy Swanson Buffy, but of course I know that's not who you're referring to, so it's the Crow.

Action-Adventure heroes

1) Indiana Jones vs. James Bond
Sadly, I think I have to go with Bond on this one. Even though Indy makes better films.

3) Billy The Kid's Regulators vs. Wyatt Earp, his brothers, and Doc Holiday
Okay, the word "geek" is in the subject, so I'm guessing this isn't straight history.
That said, I note you didn't mention Wyatt's onetime partner, Chong Wang. But, alas, they went their separate ways after rescuing the princess, and (despite the revisionist history of the sequel that never happened -- hmmmm (http://forums.sirstevesguide.com/showthread.php?t=25464)) they never went to England together.
Billy has the advantage of knowledge of the future (at least up through 1988), and we all know he used it to cheat death, so he'd make Wyatt famous.

4) Mad Max vs. The Mariner from "Waterworld"
Kinda like the bull vs camel debate from Drew Carey, the Mariner has an edge by simply saying, "Hey, why don't you come into the water? I got something to show you."
This has a different ring to it if you say "The director of The Passion of the Christ vs the director of Dances With Wolves," doesn't it?

5) Stormshadow vs. Snakeyes
How inconclusive can we be? Every time they meet, it ends in a draw. Based entirely on comments made by their mutual sensei, the Hard Master, Snake Eyes has a slight edge. And if it gets to it, Storm Shadow doesn't have a hot ninja fiancee to help him out. ;)

6) Duke vs. Cobra Commander
I hate Duke. Silly little Hawk knock-off. I think in most respects he has the advantage, but Cobra Commander is devious enough to take him out before he can use his strengths. . . and the Commander doesn't have that annoying sense of honor.

7) Scarlette vs. Baroness
Good match-up! They're equal in all respects but one: Scarlett has extensive ninja training, and Anastasia has none. Point to the Joes.

8) Sgt. Slaughter vs. Destro
Please. A pro-wrestler we'd rather forget ever being involved with the team vs a super-genius arms dealer? Destro would simply shoot Slaughter after his first stupid comment, before he got close enough to throw a punch.

Giants

1) Godzilla vs. King Kong
Someone already pointed out that Godzilla would fry Kong before he got close enough to cause any damage.

2) the Rancor vs. the Sando Aqua Monster
This depends on whether it's on land (where the Sando's mobility is impaired) or in the water (where the Rancor would drown). Given the size difference (the Opee that made a light snack for the Sando is roughly the size of the Rancor, maybe a bit larger), the Sando takes this one.

3) Unicron vs. Fortress Maximus
You're kidding, right? A dark god trapped in physical form as a giant planet-eating world vs a Headmaster who's taller than the rest, and had never held the Matrix? Unicron by an infinite margin.

4) Metroplex vs. Trypticon
Scamper and Six-Gun make all the difference, being simultaneously the cheapest G1 Transformers and two of the coolest. Metroplex wins.

5) The Stay-Puft Marshmellow-Man vs. The Blob
The Stay-Puft Marshmellow Man is unstoppable!

Tycho

10-21-2004, 03:46 PM

Geeze the responses in this thread have me laughing out loud!

This was one of my better ideas for a thread!

Keep them coming!

Mr. JabbaJohnL

10-21-2004, 06:07 PM

Star Wars rounds:

1) Darth Maul vs. Count Dooku - Count Dooku. While Maul was spinning his saber over his head, Dooku would just get to the point and impale him.

2) Darth Vader vs. Darth Sidious - Vader could kick anyone's ***, even though we haven't yet seen his master's full powers (I believe we might in ROTS?).

8) Dr. X vs. Neo from "The Matrix" - Dr. X, Neo could only point at him and maybe say "Whoa."

9) The Hulk vs. Bane - I guess the Hulk, judging on the film versions of both (though I hear Bane was misrepresented).

El Chuxter

10-21-2004, 07:36 PM

(though I hear Bane was misrepresented).

Very much so! They took one of Batman's deadliest foes ever and ruined him in ways no comic character has been ruined before.

This is the guy who used all of Batman's foes in Arkham as mere pawns to wear down Batman so he could destroy him at his leisure.

The guy who saw Bruce Wayne from a distance, turned to his cohorts and said, "Who is that man?"
"That's Bruce Wayne."
"No. Bruce Wayne is a mask. That man is the Batman."

The guy R'as Al Ghul chose to replace Batman as his chosen heir.

The man who killed two criminals Batman was chasing with his bare hands just so he could stare him down and say, "Soon you will know my name. And you will scream it!" Then he continued to taunt Bats in various similar fashion, including beating the crap out of the Killer Croc barehanded.

They took a psychotic, super-strong genius and turned him into a monosyllabic turd who thinks by putting on a fedora over his mask no one will recognize him.

Yeah, I'd say he was misrepresented.

JON9000

10-21-2004, 09:01 PM

Maybe Luke would win, but Solo would still get all the chicks and Luke would be left with robots, an old man and a green midget. :D

3) Wyatt Earp, his brothers, and Doc Holiday *Doc could do it on his own*

4) Mad Max

5) Snakeyes *probably a tie, but I like Snake better*

6) Cobra Commander *Duke's too whiney*

7) Scarlett *Baroness was too much of a drama queen*

8) Destro *one cold mofo, he'd cheat and win for sure*

Giants

1) Godzilla *toasty!*

2) the Sando Aqua Monster *on size alone*

3) Unicron *self expanitory*

4) Metroplex vs. Trypticon *sounds like a never-ending fight there*

5) The Blob *marshmellows dont do good when they get wet*

JediTricks

10-22-2004, 08:52 PM

I wrote up responses to the ones I was interested in, then got to the bottom and found out I had to vote on 'em all. That stinks. The ones in bold are the ones I actually was interested in.

Darth Maul vs. Count Dooku - Maul would spin around like a top for 5 minutes and then Dooku would simply vertically slice Maul in 2.

Darth Vader vs. Darth Sidious - We already know how that one turns out. ;) Perhaps if there were no open pits nearby, Sidious would stand a better chance, but I think Vader would keep fighting until he won the battle, even if it meant killing himself in the process.

Qui-Gon Jinn vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi - Why would they bother? If we're talking about E1 character, Qui-Gon was clearly the superior swordsman in the film, Obi-Wan was sloppy at every turn.

Yoda vs. Mace Windu - I couldn't care less, but Mace is Yoda's superior on the council, so perhaps he's more skilled than Yoda. Yoda lives to ESB though.

Luke Skywalker vs. Han Solo - Unless Han pulled a greedo and shot Luke while he wasn't looking, I think Luke ultimately would win because he's a pretty good shot and has a lightsaber - Han is a good shot but no lightsaber.

Boba Fett vs. Jango Fett - In the modern continuity, it'd be a tie. But pre-Prequels Boba Fett seemed like more of an independent-thinker and all-around badarse than Jango, so I'd pick Boba Fett.

Aurra Sing vs. IG-88 - IG-88 beeps and boops, sending headache-inducing pulses into that antenna in Sing's head. While she's distracted by that, he methodically tracks her down and turns her into mulch.

Durge vs. Bossk - Durge is massive and apparently a stupid slime-alien that can't be killed, so he's the odds-on favorite.

Princess Leia vs. Padme Amidala - Leia is a latent Force user, a crack shot, and tough as nails. Padme is an overprotected child who is too unused to life as a fighter to really be trouble. Leia is scrappy and would take any risk to defeat her enemy.

Capt. Archer vs. T'Pol - T'Pol is a Vulcan, superior in strength and reasoning, so obviously would kick Archie's butt, especially if her blood was boiling.

Xindi Reptillian vs. Vossk - Pretty much the same guy to me. Reptillians seem nastier but Vossk has time-travel.

Captain Kirk vs. Spock - Kirk is scrappy and inventive, but Spock is Vulcan with superior strength and reasoning.

Captain Picard vs. Data - Since we're taking moral/ethics out of the equation, the superstrong android would win.

Q vs. The Borg - Oooh, now there's a battle I'd like to see. Q would toy with the Borg and get all overconfident, the Borg would exploit that, and infect Q in an attempt to turn him into a Borg. Q would go along with it for a while but then simply blink them out of existence when he grew tired of it.

Captain Sisko vs. Worf - Worf is stronger, Sisko is smarter and more strategic. Worf will always play by the rules, Sisko will break them if pushed hard enough.

Gul Dukat vs. The Founder - If Dukat could sneak up and shoot, he'd win. But in a battle, a changeling has a massive edge.

Captain Janeway vs. Tuvok

Species 8472 vs. the Hirogen Hunters - We've already seen some of this. Eventually, the Hirogen cannot keep the fight up.

Optimus Prime vs. Jetfire

Megatron vs. Starscream - We know how this one plays out too. :D However, Starscream's spark is indestructable, he's able to exist as a ghost and even inhabit other bodies, so in the end he'd probably defeat Megs even if it took 10,000 years.

Ultra Magnus vs. Ironhide

Shockwave vs. Galvatron

Superman vs. Lex Luthor - No ethics? No question.

Batman vs. Joker

Catwoman vs. Poison Ivy - Ivy has powers over plants that can ensare Selina, who is basically just a thief.

Spider-man vs. Doctor Octopus

Wolverine vs. Magneto

Rogue vs. Mystique

Lana Lang vs. Lois Lane - Lois will cheat.

Dr. X vs. Neo from "The Matrix" - Neo has no powers in the real world, Professor Xavier (whom I'm assuming you are talking about) has mind-controlling telepathy.

The Hulk vs. Bane - Hulk smash! You beat this guy and he gets stronger and stronger - how can you defeat that?

Dracula vs.Wolfman

Mummy vs. Frankenstein's monster

Alien vs. Predator

Freddy vs. Jason

The Terminator vs. T-1000

The Ghostbusters vs. Men in Black

Van Helsing vs. Michael Myers

Spawn vs. Blade - Blade would chop Spawn's head clean off before he'd even notice.

Okay, I don't want to influence anyone's vote here, but how would Baroness beat Scarlett?

First, Baroness shot Scarlett in the head at point-blank range once, and Scarlett lived through it to kick arse another day. That should settle it right there.

Second, they're equal in ruthlessness, marksmanship, intelligence, and covert operations. But Anastasia deCobray was born a spoiled little European girl, and that's what she still is. Scarlett is a ninja! Think about it. Silent, kills for fun, totally wails on guitar. She only wears bright colors to fool you into thinking she's not a ninja.

And if Baroness goes and gets her boyfriend to fight for her, Scarlett can call in her fiance, and Snake Eyes would whoop Destro without even blinking.

3) Qui-Gon Jinn vs. Obi-Wan Kenobi: Obi-Wan,qui gon was killed by maul, and maul was killed by obi wan, so obi would beat qiu gon. BUT if qui gon and obi got into it earlier in to the training, qui gon would destroy obi wan no doubt.

Voting in Round 1 is CLOSED! We have some awesome results and some way-cool battles that every MAJOR GEEK and TOTAL NERD would love to see. A lot of regular people might even find this interesting too!

Now we move on to ROUND 2. Voting will close on Monday, October 25th. (these are 2-day rounds for voting).

The WINNERS are going on! In the event of a tie, I just left both contenders in and put them up against other challengers. Where there was a shortage, I moved in contenders from other categories.

1) Count Dooku vs. Darth Vader
Given that, even being mostly spoiler-free, I can deduce Vader is going to have to kill Dooku next time they fight, I'm giving him the win. Very, very close battle, though.

2) Qui-Gon Jinn vs. Master Yoda
Qui-Gon may be an uber-badarse, but Yoda would come out ahead in the end.

3) Luke Skywalker vs. Princess Leia
If it came to it, Luke. Unless it's before he found out they were related; Leia could flash him and he'd be reduced to a drooling mass of protoplasm.

4) Boba Fett vs. Chewbacca
Haven't we seen this one before? Chewbacca by a mile.

5) Durge vs. IG-88
Again, it disgusts me to give the win to him, but Durge would eliminate IG-88 quickly.

Star Trek Rounds

1) T'Pol vs. Xindi Reptillian
T'Pol, for the simple reason I know who she is.

2) Spock vs. Klingon
Previously, I said never bet against a Klingon. However, that does not apply when the challenger is Spock. Spock takes all comers.

3) Data vs. Q
As this is not a coolness contest, I am loathe to say that Mr Mxyz--I mean, Q would win rather easily.

4) Worf vs. The Founder
Worf. Why? I have no idea who the Founder is. And he/she/it has a dumb name.

5) Tuvok vs. Species 8472
Tuvok, once again because he sounds like a famous Dinosaur Hunter, and because I have no idea who Species 8472 is. (Don't tell me that crap movie had 8471 sequels!)

Transformers

1) Optimus Prime vs. Megatron
After millions of years (literally), Optimus Prime will eventually come out ahead. No matter the cost.

2) Ultra Magnus vs. Galvatron
Feh. Galvatron.

Superheroes

1) Superman vs. Spider-Man
This one is almost a no-brainer. Superman has the distinct advantage in everything except brains, but heat vision, invulnerability, and flight more than compensate.

3) Poison Ivy vs. Rogue
This is a tough one. It depends on whether Rogue could get close enough to drain Ivy's powers, and whether her own powers work on plants (not likely). I'll assume it's comic book Rogue, and her brute force and flight powers will eventually get her through Ivy's defenses, at which point it's no contest.

4) Magneto vs. The Hulk
Another toughie. In theory, Magneto could play havoc with the iron in Hulk's system, plus he can control other stuff in the environment. But I think his size, strength, and healing factor (which makes Wolvie's look ineffective) would give a slight edge to Hulk.

5) Dr. X vs. Batman
Man, why'd you put Bats in a contest he can't hope to win? Haven't you heard of a fighting chance? Professor X, and quickly.

2) Qui-Gon Jinn vs. Master Yoda - AOTC made it clear that crotchety old geezers can really whip up a fight when they want to, despite being really really old or tiny green frog-men. Just one more reason to dislike AOTC.

4) Boba Fett vs. Chewbacca - Chewie is big and strong, but Boba Fett is a pretty well-armed guy and knows how to hunt wookiees. With all the gadgets and such, even without bowcaster vs blaster rifle, I think the Fett man would come out on top.

5) Durge vs. IG-88 - EU made Durge unkillable, so eventually he'd win. Just one more reason to dislike the EU.

Star Trek Rounds

1) T'Pol vs. Xindi Reptillian - The reptillians don't seem all THAT good in this sort of situation, while T'pol has her logic, strength, and has less hinderances of goofy sci-fi costuming.

2) Spock vs. Klingon - Spock would use his superior logic and almost equal strength to eventually kill the Klingon, though not without a serious battle first.

4) Worf vs. The Founder - As tough as Worf is, the Founder is a changeling and could turn into mist in his lungs or razor-sharp blades or quicksand.

5) Tuvok vs. Species 8472

Transformers

1) Optimus Prime vs. Megatron - Megs is ruthless, tough, and has no qualms about cheating. OP is tough, strong and smart, and would fight to the death to destroy the evil Megs. One on one, the winner there would probably be the cheater.

3) Poison Ivy vs. Rogue - How can both Catwoman and Poison Ivy be here again? They were against each other in round 1.

4) Magneto vs. The Hulk

5) Dr. X vs. Batman - Again, are we talking about Professor X? If so, Bats has been up against telepaths before and has such a well-trained mind that he's been able to beat them.

Horror and Sci-Fi Shockers

1) Dracula vs. Freddy

2) Frankenstein's Monster vs. Alien

3) Predator vs. T-1000

4) Men In Black vs. Spawn

5) Ghostbusters vs. The Crow

6) Van Helsing vs. Destro

Action-Adventure Heroes

1) James Bond vs. Baroness

2) Indiana Jones vs. Mad Max

3) The A-Team vs. Billy the Kid and the Regulators

4) Snakeyes vs. Cobra Commander

Giants

1) Godzilla vs. the Sando Aqua Monster

2) Unicron vs. Metroplex

Chux, "The Founder" is a member of Odo's race on Deep Space Nine, Tycho is referring to the one that ran the Dominion/Federation war in the Alpha Quadrant for several years.

Species 8472, from the episode "Scorpion", were nasty 3-legged aliens from a dimension that existed entirely in fluidic space. They took on the Borg and won.

Kidhuman

10-26-2004, 08:18 PM

Star Wars Rounds

1) Darth Vader

2) Qui-Gon Jinn

3) vs. Princess Leia

4) Boba Fett

5) IG-88

Star Trek Rounds

1) T'Pol

2) Klingon

3) Q

4) Worf

5) Species 8472

Transformers

1) Megatron

2) Galvatron

Superheroes

1) Superman
2) Catwoman

3) . Rogue

4) The Hulk

5) Dr. X

Horror and Sci-Fi Shockers

1) Freddy

2) Alien

3) Predator

4) Spawn

5) The Crow

6) Destro

Action-Adventure Heroes

1) James Bond

2) Indiana Jones

3) Billy the Kid and the Regulators

4) Snakeyes

Giants

1) Godzilla

2) Unicron

3) The Stay Puffed Mashmellow Man

Tycho

10-27-2004, 01:38 AM

Keep voting guys (if you haven't yet voted in Round 2). I'm going to keep this round open one more day (closing Wednesday night with round 2 and starting with round 3).

If you're still a geek, you need to be here! :)

JON9000

10-27-2004, 03:42 PM

Star Wars Rounds

1) Count Dooku vs. Darth Vader- Even though Dooku whupped Anakin and Obi-Wan, and Vader supposedly wasn't such hot stuff after he got tossed in the fire (the rationale for less saber finesse in the OT).

2) Qui-Gon Jinn vs. Master Yoda Who's the master?

3) Luke Skywalker vs. Princess Leia- obvious

4) Boba Fett vs. Chewbacca- let the wookie win

5) Durge vs. IG-88- I naver watched that silly cartoon

Star Trek Rounds

1) T'Pol vs. Xindi Reptillian

2) Spock vs. Klingon- Spock tossed a Klingon like a rag doll in STIII

3) Data vs. Q- not even close

4) Worf vs. The Founder

5) Tuvok vs. Species 8472

Transformers

1) Optimus Prime vs. Megatron- it always seemed to go back and forth between these two, but if Hot Rod stays out of the way, Prime wins. (Incidentally, Prime also beats Unicron, cuz he has the Matrix).

2) Ultra Magnus vs. Galvatron- who cares about post season two Transformers? I guess Galvatron, because he used to be Megatron.

Superheroes

1) Superman vs. Spider-Man- An old rule of thumb- the older character almost always comes out on top.

2) Catwoman vs. Lois Lane Julie Newmar would whup Margot Kidder.

3) Poison Ivy vs. Rogue

4) Magneto vs. The Hulk- I once saw Mags wipe out all of the Avengers, except for Captain Marvel.

5) Dr. X vs. Batman- I have no idea who Doctor X is, but I have heard of Batman. Anybody I haven;t heard of cannot beat up Batman.

Horror and Sci-Fi Shockers

1) Dracula vs. Freddy- I think Freddy has nightmares of the undying evil.

4) T'Pol vs. Q
Once again, Q is untouchable. Though put him up against Mxyzptlk, and we've got a fight. :)

5) Spock vs. Worf
This would be a good one. I think Spock actually has a bit of an edge. And not just because he's cooler.

6) Megatron vs. The Hulk
Y'know, Megatron vs Galvatron and Hulk vs Superman would've been a better way to go. But that's just my opinion.
I take it Prime lost? WTF?
Hulk is nigh unstoppable, but Megatron can link interdimensionally with a black hole to provide limitless power to his already kick-arse fusion cannon, so Hulk would be disintegrated.

7) Galvatron vs. Superman
Galvatron was practically omnipotent as long as Unicron was alive. Without Unicron, Superman could take Unicron pretty easily. With Unicron, I think Superman still has a good chance of offing Galvatron.

8) Catwoman vs. Indiana Jones
I love Catwoman, but Indy would make mincemeat of her.

9) Rogue vs. Freddy Kruegar
Man, this one's tough. Rogue has almost Superman-class strength and flight, but Freddy can get into her head, so he would win.

10) Batman vs. Predator
Another one that's already been settled. Batman would whomp on an army of Predators. He's just cool like that.

Hmmm. This is a really, really tough one. As much as I'd love Vader to win, I think Freddy's immortality will give him a bit of an edge. Besides, he could project Natalie Portman saying, "I never loved you, and the kids are Mace's!" into Vader's head and completely incapacite him.

Boba Fett vs. Destro

After many successes, Destro finally goes down fighting, as Boba Fett has much better gadgets. Had you not killed Snake Eyes by putting him up against Spawn, though, Snake Eyes would eliminate Fett in short order.

Superman vs. Unicron - Unicron is the size of a moon, I don't think there's much Supes could do to that, but Unicron probably has something inside him that could take Supes out if his immense size and strength alone don't do the job.

Tycho

11-09-2004, 02:49 AM

Wow! Superman is finally taken out by Unicron! This I did not see coming. I thought Superman would be too fast and too small for Unicron to catch and Supes would just get inside Unicron and rip his internal controls apart with super-speed, faster than Unicron could repair himself or dispatch automotans to finish Superman off. But nevertheless, the man of steel goes down!

We had 2 ties so I have to throw the winners into big impossible challenges to shake them all up.

Who will win in a fight with:

Darth Vader vs. (special guest contestant) Sauron from LOTR!

Indiana Jones vs. Unicron!

Luke Skywalker vs. Boba Fett

Q vs. Spawn

I have my own ideas about these matches, and I don't think the answers are as obvious as they might seem. But that's for you to decide.

Kidhuman

11-09-2004, 07:02 AM

Darth Vader

Unicron!

Luke Skywalker

Q vs. Spawn - wow, Q in this one. Love to see the footage

JediTricks

11-09-2004, 03:22 PM

Darth Vader vs. (special guest contestant) Sauron from LOTR! - Vader would comb the galaxy in search of that ring, and then lightsaber it in half. ;)

Indiana Jones vs. Unicron! - that's just doofy.

Luke Skywalker vs. Boba Fett - Fett and Luke seemed well-matched in their ROTJ battle, before they were rudely interrupted. As much as Fett cheats, Luke will probably counter by giving in to rage, and then Fett is outclassed.

Q vs. Spawn

El Chuxter

11-09-2004, 03:29 PM

Darth Vader vs. (special guest contestant) Sauron from LOTR!

Tough one. Does Sauron have the One Ring? I'll assume he doesn't, in which case Vader triumphs. Of course, a mere human chopped the Ring off Sauron's hand when he had it, so Vader could have a good chance even if Sauron has the Ring.

Indiana Jones vs. Unicron!

Unicron. Sorry, Indy. Unicron is a dark god who can only be defeated by Primus, the Matrix, or the combined might of all Cybertronians.

Luke Skywalker vs. Boba Fett

Feh. Luke would mop the floor with that wimp.

Q vs. Spawn

In other words, which being of unlimited power will defeat the other? I'll give the edge to Spawn, but not by very much. Q has a bit more raw power, but Spawn has enough combat training and experience to give him a narrow victory.

Tycho

11-09-2004, 07:21 PM

OK - geek argument time. I have to jump in here and nerd-invade this discussion!

Unicron will not be defeated in an all-out power struggle the traditional way.

But Indianna Jones can find anything so duh: he'd get the Autobot matrix of leadership and figure out how to use it! I'd say that Unicron has met his match in Indianna Jones! - but I'm not voting.

JediTricks

11-09-2004, 11:59 PM

I hate to be a jerk Chux, but Q is an omnipotent god-like creature, Spawn is a hellspawn but is actually vulnerable to be wiped out of existance. You can't kill Q, Q can even access the afterlife or go back in time and make Spawn never exist.

Tycho, what are you, high? The Autobot Matrix of Leadership is far too big for Indy to use, much less use PROPERLY.

Tycho

11-10-2004, 12:40 AM

Indy would tie one handle of the matrix with his bullwhip to a hard structure inside Unicron and then attach the other handle to some wire that's in turn attached to some machinery and use them as fulcron points to pull the matrix open. He'd move fast and figure out a way to do it. His background as an archeologist would help him first investigate and learn what he has to do.

It's David and Goliath all over again! Never underestimate Indianna Jones!

El Chuxter

11-10-2004, 03:17 PM

I have a feeling Indiana (and the planet he's on) would be eaten before he knew what was going on. Unicron is in a power class by himself. According to TF lore (contradictory at times, but in general agreement on this subject), Unicron can only be beaten three ways:

1) Primus, his heroic counterpart and equal. Primus is currently dormant, and his physical form is better known as Cybertron.

2) The Autobot Matrix of Leadership (AKA the Creation Matrix), which is Primus' life force and powers wrapped up in one handy-dandy music box. :)

3) The combined forces of all Cybertronians. This means all Autobots and Decepticons, their sub-teams, and neutral Cybertronians and MiniCons if those exist in a particular universe (though some of the more evil of the Original Twelve Thirteen might be exempt from, like the Fallen and Liege Maximo). In essence, this is the combined might of all Primus' children, and thus equivalent to the Matrix. (The combined armies got whooped in Marvel's TF #75, as Thunderwing, Megatron, several Autobots in stasis, Shockwave, and a few others weren't present, and Jhiaxus' rather large group of allied evil Autobots and Decepticons wasn't even known about at the time, much less involved the battle.)

I'm willing to make some allowances for crossing over between universes (Green Lantern, f'rinstance, could be a good fight for Unicron), but a dude with a whip doesn't quite cut it.

JT, I based my Q vs Spawn results on the fact that (in his world) Spawn has pretty much beaten the devil at his own game, but it seems Q is even more powerful than I thought, so I'm going to change the results. Q beats Spawn.