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If Trump actually pulls one out of a hat then I will be the first to congratulate him - and I'll apologize for some of the nasty things I said about him.

If HE accomplishes it, not the SORKS & NORKS & China.

So far from what I've seen, Trump has has zero to do with it.

I'll be happy for positive change w/out regard to who brings it about. That said - aside from giving Kim Jung Un the seat at the world table that he has desired & been rightfully denied for so long, I don't know that Trump has done anything to contribute to current events.

Not at all. I'd consider it a good thing and the first tick in the "pro" column should Trump get it done. I don't see how his actions have been responsible for anything new at the moment, but I'm willing to give him kudos if he does something other than business as usual.

Nice example of behavioural projection though. You're so invested in Trump, it's all personal to you.

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I wish Trump all the success in the world. Just keep in mind one thing. Even if he does pull off a miracle and brings peace to the Korean Peninsula, that doesn't exonerate him for anything the Mueller investigation will reveal. Because you know damn well that the Trumpists will be blowing that horn if it happens. "Oh, he did this or that, he's above the law now because he actually did his job for once."

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I wish Trump all the success in the world. Just keep in mind one thing. Even if he does pull off a miracle and brings peace to the Korean Peninsula, that doesn't exonerate him for anything the Mueller investigation will reveal. Because you know damn well that the Trumpists will be blowing that horn if it happens. "Oh, he did this or that, he's above the law now because he actually did his job for once."

SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korean President Moon Jae-in said U.S. President Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to end the standoff with North Korea over its nuclear weapons program, a South Korean official said on Monday.

SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korean President Moon Jae-in said U.S. President Donald Trump deserves a Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts to end the standoff with North Korea over its nuclear weapons program, a South Korean official said on Monday.

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Read it again. He is calling for Trump to receive it right now for his efforts to bring the Two Korea’s together.

I'm sure he is. The SOUTH is pandering to the USA's crazy president. They need to in order for the USA to ALLOW a new peace arrangement to come to fruition. The North & South could agree to a great many things, but unless the US agrees to leave, it means jack shit.

You praise Trump for being a crazy fucker and claiming that the Norks come to the table... but then neglect to apply the same effect to the other side. Kind of telling.

Trump had nothing to do with it. NK fucked up their test mountain, it's no longer usable and they don't have resources to rebuild.

If that's the case, our scintillation monitors would pick that up with about 100% certainty. It's essentially impossible to hide stray isotopes. I haven't heard anything about it.

President Trump aside, it's one thing for North Korea to discuss, to agree not to test, to do what China wants so that China has a chance to control South Korea's K-Pop juggernaut ... but it's something else entirely for North Korea to become compliant with the NPT. I don't see that happening for years or longer.

It's kind of like football ... you can have the most beautiful passes, rushes, quarterback sneaks and a majestic ability to move the ball downfield. But in the end, if you don't get it past the goal-line or at least pull a field goal, then your theatrics are just theatrics. Without NPT compliance, it's close to impossible to diminish the North Korean standoff.

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If that's the case, our scintillation monitors would pick that up with about 100% certainty. It's essentially impossible to hide stray isotopes. I haven't heard anything about it.

President Trump aside, it's one thing for North Korea to discuss, to agree not to test, to do what China wants so that China has a chance to control South Korea's K-Pop juggernaut ... but it's something else entirely for North Korea to become compliant with the NPT. I don't see that happening for years or longer.

It's kind of like football ... you can have the most beautiful passes, rushes, quarterback sneaks and a majestic ability to move the ball downfield. But in the end, if you don't get it past the goal-line or at least pull a field goal, then your theatrics are just theatrics. Without NPT compliance, it's close to impossible to diminish the North Korean standoff.

USA Today had a similar article. There may not be a radiation leak but Dictator Kim still needs a new mountain. This could be a stall for time while he digs, or for real now that he has powerful bombs and can sort of deliver them somewhere in the US if we invade.

USA Today had a similar article. There may not be a radiation leak but Dictator Kim still needs a new mountain. This could be a stall for time while he digs, or for real now that he has powerful bombs and can sort of deliver them somewhere in the US if we invade.

He can maybe get the nukes over Japan before they fuck up, but that's bad enough. If he can get them to PNW, I'm really going to have to object.

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He can maybe get the nukes over Japan before they fuck up, but that's bad enough. If he can get them to PNW, I'm really going to have to object.

He’d have an easier time hitting the distant continent, maybe even American territory, then an American island. A larger vector range will actually hit something. He has consistently shown an ability to hit the ocean.

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Hey, that's about what we got out of the Iran deal and it didn't cost us 1.7 billion in small unmarked bills.

Your willful mis-understanding of the Iran deal eliminates you from any right to comment...unless you are referring to the Orange-u-tan's abnegation of the international deal. Then you are right. We now have essentially the same deal with Iran and NK.

That it was - though the delivery optics should have been handled much better and more openly than they were. I could see how someone who only took a superficial look at the situation could come away thinking it was an under the table deal, but, it really WAS giving them back their own money.

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That it was - though the delivery optics should have been handled much better and more openly than they were. I could see how someone who only took a superficial look at the situation could come away thinking it was an under the table deal, but, it really WAS giving them back their own money.

Agreed on the optics. And, the way the Administration fumbled the explanation.

Still doesn't change the fact that it was their $400 million paid back with interest.

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Canada has announced in a bid to get Nafta back on track and Trump/Trudeau bromance revival, that Canada will immediately task the Atomic Energy Commission with developing a fusion bomb and missle delivery system for Canadian use. NK is invited to Ottawa to discuss a partnership. Apparently Canada has useful beaches for Trump condo's as well. Concurrently CBC will be broadcasting Canadian Bacon, the great John Candy documentary as supportive of their decision. God Bless Canada.

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I wish Trump all the success in the world. Just keep in mind one thing. Even if he does pull off a miracle and brings peace to the Korean Peninsula, that doesn't exonerate him for anything the Mueller investigation will reveal. Because you know damn well that the Trumpists will be blowing that horn if it happens. "Oh, he did this or that, he's above the law now because he actually did his job for once."

There has been peace for over half a century. These two bad-haircut egomaniacs stop waving their red-button dicks at each other? T'will serve.

The 'explanation' wasn't bungled it was inadequate cover for an outright lie.

Ah, so now you want to know about what I wonder. I have a hunch answering this will send me down a rabbit hole.

No. I don't wonder. This is but another time when I did not appreciate the way President Obama handled something. I fully realize my use of the words "did not appreciate" do not rise to the level of outrage you probably require, and in doing so, have to accept being labeled as an Obama Apologist.