For the past few weeks, the culinary arts students at Johnson & Wales University in Providence, R.I., have been working with some less-than-seasoned sous chefs.

One of them, Clinton Piper, may look like a pro in his chef's whites, but he's struggling to work a whisk through some batter. "I know nothing about baking," he says.

Luckily, he's got other qualifications. Piper is a fourth-year medical student at Tulane University School of Medicine, and he's here for a short rotation through a new program designed to educate med students and chefs-in-training about nutrition.

"I think it's forward thinking to start to see, to view food as medicine," he says. "That's not something that's really on our radar in medical education. But with the burden of disease in the United States being so heavily weighted with lifestyle disease, I think it's a very, very logical next step."

So-called lifestyle diseases mainly spring from bad habits, particularly bad eating habits. Think obesity or diabetes. Piper says the goal of this partnership between New Orleans, Louisiana-based Tulane and Johnson & Wales is to change the way doctors think about food. As far as the program's creators know, it's the first time a culinary school and a medical school have partnered like this.

"We basically learn how to take care of patients when things go wrong, which is sad," says Neha Solanki, a fourth-year medical student at Tulane. "I think that we need to learn how to be able to make nutritious meals and to discuss diet in an educated manner."

One of their assignments is to feed the Johnson & Wales track team. The team will arrive breathless and sweaty after practice. According to assistant professor Todd Seyfarth, an instructor in culinary nutrition, the assignment is to create a "recovery meal."

"We're going to try to take advantage of what's called an anabolic window, a specific period of time after the workout where we can give them the best gains," he says.

The first course will be a "recovery" bar with whole grains, spices and marshmallows to deliver some quick sugars. Then there's the frittata that Solanki is laboring away at, stuffed with baby zucchini, red bliss potatoes, red bell peppers, parmesan and feta cheese and spinach. It's a feast, says culinary student Briana Colacone, designed to refuel with lean protein and carbs. "It's going to be really good," she says.

Using med students as sous chefs brings its own challenges — Colacone has to slow down to show med student Neha Solanki how to chop a pepper. But Seyfarth says the benefits far outweigh any inconveniences.

"They have a better understanding than I ever will of how the body functions. And they can inform some of the decisions we make," he says. "I love having them here."

This is the culinary medicine program's inaugural year. But organizers hope to train more Tulane medical students and Johnson & Wales culinary students together on each other's campuses.

At one time or another, you may hear a doctor tell you to follow a healthy diet. Maybe the doctor even hands you a pamphlet on nutrition. But that can all seem like an abstraction; easy to say, hard to do.

We'll hear next of an effort to help doctors understand their advice in a more concrete way - something they can touch, slice and dice, or taste. Here's Rhode Island Public Radio's Kristin Gourlay.

KRISTIN GOURLAY, BYLINE: Welcome to a busy kitchen classroom at Johnson and Wales University in Providence. Typically, you'd find only culinary students here, busy chopping or sauteing. But for the past few weeks, they've been working with some less-than-seasoned sous chefs.

CLINTON PIPER: So, I am working on the dessert for today.

GOURLAY: This is Clinton Piper, looking the part in chef's whites but struggling a bit to work a whisk through the batter.

PIPER: We are making a healthy cake that Tara's helping me with because I know nothing about baking.

GOURLAY: That's when his partner, Tara Schwartz - a Johnson and Wales senior - decides to take over.

PIPER: That's how you whisk.

GOURLAY: Piper may not yet know proper whisking technique, but he's got other qualities. He's a fourth-year medical student at Tulane Medical School. He's here for a short rotation through a new program designed to educate med students and chefs-in-training about nutrition. As far as the program's creators know, it's the first time a culinary school and a medical school have partnered like this. Piper says the goal is to change the way doctors think about food.

PIPER: I think it's forward-thinking to start to view food as medicine. You know, that's not something that's really on our radar in medical education. But with the burden of disease in the United States being so heavily weighted with lifestyle disease, I think it's a very, very logical next step.

NEHA SOLANKI: We basically learn how to take care of patients when things go wrong, which is sad. And I think that we need to learn how to be able to make nutritious meals, and to discuss diet in an educated manner.

GOURLAY: Case in point: the frittata she's making. It's one part of a high-tech meal the class is preparing for the Johnson and Wales track team. They'll be arriving breathless, sweaty and hungry in less than an hour. Assistant professor Todd Seyfarth explains the assignment.

TODD SEYFARTH: They have to pretty much do a recovery meal. So to try to take advantage of what's called an anabolic window - a specific period of time after the workout where we can give them the best gains.

GOURLAY: For the first course, a recovery bar with whole grains and spices, even some marshmallows to deliver some quick sugars. Then there's the frittata, which culinary student Brianna Colacone says is designed to refuel with lean protein and carbs.

GOURLAY: It sounds good, but will it be ready in time? Colacone has to slow down, to show med student Neha Solanki how to chop a pepper. Have these med students hampered or helped the kitchen's budding chefs and dieticians? Professor Todd Seyfarth sees the bigger picture.

SEYFARTH: They have a better understanding than I ever will of how the body functions. And they can inform some of the decisions we make. I love having them here.

GOURLAY: And he'll most likely have more. This is the culinary medicine program's inaugural year. But organizers hope to train more Tulane medical students and Johnson and Wales culinary students together on each other's campuses.