Did anybody ever ascertain whether or not children were killed? Or was that bogus? I think that woman said she was a Muslim from Kosovo. I haven't
heard anything else said about a shooting inside McDonalds.

I wonder why a woman would call CNN and report such a thing? She should be charged with something. It contributed to panic.

originally posted by: jefwane
How does an 18 year old in Germany get a gun? In the US 18 is old enough in many states to buy a rifle or shotgun, but not a pistol. Some states allow
possession of a pistol to 18 year olds but they can't be the one that purchases it. However, it's not hard at all for an 18 year old to acquire an
illegal gun. I doubt that is the case in Germany. The numbet of killed abd wounded seems high for an untrained person using a pistol.

This is easily googleable. You can have a gun in Germany. They're tightly regulated, and some types banned, but you damn sure can own one. Quit with
the "But they don't allow guns!" horse manure.

I knew that, I just didn't know how easy of an endeavor it would be for an 18 year old to get one. In most of the US it would be easier for an 18 year
old to get a rifle than a pistol, but would require some form of 21+ aged assistance to go through legal channels of purchase to acquire a pistol. It
appears he was using a pistol, I was just wondering if it was relatively similar in Germany.

I'm no expert on foreign gun laws. Hence why i asked. Not my business how Germany regulates firearms. That's between the German people and their
government.

18 yr old Iranian living in Germany 2 years killed 9 and wounded 16.Then shot himself..There is video of gunman having discussion with a witness on
balcony..
No name released..

wow. thanks.

Actually, to be more accurate & not have it sound like an immigrant fresh off the dingy, it's a native-born German kid of Iranian heritage. If you
watch the aforementioned video, he puts a LOT of emphasis on calling himself German, and says nothing else. He also mentions being born there, and he
also mentions bullying towards him for 7 years.
A news update said he'd been living in the Munich area for 2 years, not merely in the country for 2 years.

I get the feeling this might be found to have been a kid who was bullied to extremes, probably over heritage, and he snapped, lashing out in the worst
way possible. If I'm wrong, eh, I'm wrong, but I'll bet on it for the time being.

I knew that, I just didn't know how easy of an endeavor it would be for an 18 year old to get one. In most of the US it would be easier for an 18 year
old to get a rifle than a pistol, but would require some form of 21+ aged assistance to go through legal channels of purchase to acquire a pistol. It
appears he was using a pistol, I was just wondering if it was relatively similar in Germany.

My husband (German himself) said he believes it's 18 now. It was 20 before, as far as he knows.

Iran does not even recognize dual citizenship only Iranian citizenship.

As far as I can tell from googling, Iran recognizes something called "multiple citizenship". This was tough for me to stumble on, as it seems to be
used in synonymous manner with dual citizenship. It's really confusing to find the right info, but it doesn't really look all that different
from dual citizenship to me at first glance.

However, he can be regarded as an Iranian national despite being born abroad if his father is Iranian. It's passed down paternally.

Quick edit:
I'm also reading that Germany does not permit dual citizenship, but if the parents are from a non-EU country, the child can be granted dual
citizenship if they are born and grow up there. Germans, feel free to expand on this one, you'd know better than my google-fu,
ultimately.

edit on 7/22/2016 by Nyiah because: (no reason given)

edit on 7/22/2016 by Nyiah because: I misread that one for
Germany, I think. Reworded that.

originally posted by: jefwane
How does an 18 year old in Germany get a gun? In the US 18 is old enough in many states to buy a rifle or shotgun, but not a pistol. Some states allow
possession of a pistol to 18 year olds but they can't be the one that purchases it. However, it's not hard at all for an 18 year old to acquire an
illegal gun. I doubt that is the case in Germany. The numbet of killed abd wounded seems high for an untrained person using a pistol.

This is easily googleable. You can have a gun in Germany. They're tightly regulated, and some types banned, but you damn sure can own one. Quit with
the "But they don't allow guns!" horse manure.

And worst comes to worst, just mosey on across the border to France, stop by your local mosque and pick one up there.

18 yr old Iranian living in Germany 2 years killed 9 and wounded 16.Then shot himself..There is video of gunman having discussion with a witness on
balcony..
No name released..

wow. thanks.

Actually, to be more accurate & not have it sound like an immigrant fresh off the dingy, it's a native-born German kid of Iranian heritage. If you
watch the aforementioned video, he puts a LOT of emphasis on calling himself German, and says nothing else. He also mentions being born there, and he
also mentions bullying towards him for 7 years.
A news update said he'd been living in the Munich area for 2 years, not merely in the country for 2 years.
.

18 year old german going on a rampage. I am sad, this shows more than anything else we have lots of work to do. If even people born here, speaking the
language fluently have full access to all educational opportunities and the alleged cultural opportunities are sad and desperate enough to go out and
kill.

Ok, woke up to this and had to do some research because I read the most 'official' story first and it made it seem that this is a sad teenager, who
was bullied and got so angry, he shot others. Not a spur of the moment thing, as he was inviting them for free food at McDonalds beforehand. So it was
well planned..

School friends are saying he was a loner and quiet.

So far so good, looks like a mad kid on a revenge spree.

His name is ALI and he is an Iranian with a German passport.

Then I read around and find out that, he is a muslim and there was isis propaganda found and there were more than one shooters. Of course nothing can
be proven at all.

So on logical grounds I could agree that it was just a teen gone wrong. But I have to add that islam MUST have played a role in thinking that this is
a good way to solve problems.

Why?

Because he is definitely a disturbed kid.

Disturbed people find solace in something. If you are of muslim background, I'd assume islam and prayers will help you to some extent.

Like ALL religious nutters, it is easy to use your religion as a starting point [usually completely misreading the peaceful messages their religions
want to portrait. There are multiple terror attacks happening at the moment by muslims as isis is asking 'anyone to help out and they'll be grateful'.
You don't have to be a member to do their work!

A teen is easily attracted to action, perceived 'adventure' and danger. It's exciting and rebellious.

He would have done something had he not been religious [this is important] the excuse could have been anything. However in the current climate he did
it because somehow he believed that if other muslims can do this, so can I.

First, send all illegal immigrants where they came from. ALL OF THEM. Second, stop bombing their countries, and let them kill themselves, as they
always do. Third, increase control over Muslims living in European countries.

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