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20:43 #navit: < _rd> Does anybody know if I can build the android version without a keystore?
20:46 #navit: < jandegr_> _rd : yes
20:48 #navit: < _rd> can you tell how that works?
20:48 #navit: < _rd> i.e. where do I have the specify the option to build w/o keystore?
20:49 #navit: < jandegr_> _rd I can get you a script that does all for you, run script, that's all, it does all the dependencies, path exports, svn fetch , sdk fetch, ndk fethc all for you while you look :)
20:51 #navit: < jandegr_> or if you want to do it manually, there's nothing to specify either to not use a keystore, at least if it's for your own use
20:51 #navit: < _rd> I should have all the stuff already (and I build successfully, but lost my keystore password).
20:52 #navit: < _rd> But the script should be ok for me to extract the information.
20:52 #navit: < _rd> Do you want to post it to pastebin?
20:52 #navit: < jandegr_> lost keystore = lost forever, there's no script to recover anything
20:53 #navit: < jandegr_> you're building for redistribution ?
20:53 #navit: < _rd> Therefore I though I could build w/o keystore (I understood keystores main usecase is to upload to google play).
20:53 #navit: < _rd> No just for me myself
20:53 #navit: < jandegr_> then you don't need keys at all
20:54 #navit: < tryagain> actually you always use at least debug key. But you may change it at your will.
20:55 #navit: < tryagain> Only prolem with changed key is inability to upgrade, you'll have to uninstall and then install as a new apk. You will lose all internal info.
20:57 #navit: < jandegr_> I built numerous ones without any key, but indeed uninstall first to install a new one, but maps and navit.xml on sdcard stay available forever
20:57 #navit: < jandegr_> so it's only recent destinations and such that get lost
20:57 #navit: < _rd> the build process asks me at the end for a password.....
20:57 #navit: < _rd> ...there I am stuck
20:58 #navit: < _rd> can I delete the keystore and create a new one?
20:58 #navit: < _rd> I understand the update issues with a new key.
21:00 #navit: < tryagain> yes, the tool to use is probably keytool. but i'm unsure how to switch the default build process to a different key.
21:01 #navit: < tryagain> ah, http://developer.android.com/tools/publishing/app-signing.html#expdebug
21:04 #navit: < tryagain> _rd btw do you run "make apkg" or "make apkg-release" when it complains?
21:06 #navit: < _rd> make apkg
21:06 #navit: < _rd> maybe I was able to create a new key.....
21:06 #navit: < _rd> ....let me try to rebuild
21:12 #navit: < _rd> Aahh... Compile your app in release mode to obtain an unsigned APK....implies that make apkg-release is not using the keystore.
21:12 #navit: < _rd> I would have expected it the other way round.
21:14 #navit: < tryagain> you are not expected to be able to install unsigned apk to unrooted device
21:22 #navit: < jandegr_> Under “Settings,” select “Application Settings” and then enable “Unknown Sources.”
21:22 #navit: < _rd> even for a rootet device I get: INSTALL_PARSE_FAILED_NO_CERTIFICATES
21:23 #navit: < tryagain> unknown means not google play :)
21:23 #navit: < _rd> but I can build now also signed apks....
21:23 #navit: < tryagain> you'll have to sign it
21:23 #navit: < _rd> ...and that works again.
21:23 #navit: < _rd> Thanks a lot for your help.
21:23 #navit: < jandegr_> I installed unsigned one's on 3 different vanilla devices last week, I must be missing out on smth.
21:24 #navit: < tryagain> Are you talking about Navit_debug.apk? Then it's SIGNED with debug key.
21:24 #navit: < _rd> I did not try the "Unknown Sources"....
21:24 #navit: < _rd> ....since I can sign again.
21:25 #navit: < _rd> I installed Navit_debug.apk now.
21:25 #navit: < tryagain> i was asking jandegr_ :)
21:25 #navit: < _rd> My icons became tiny (e.g. for settings, actions, etc)
21:25 #navit: < _rd> Did something change in the past weeks?
21:26 #navit: < tryagain> yes, we have adjusted icon sizes, and wanting some feedback :)
21:26 #navit: < _rd> Also the menu bar at the top became very thin.
21:26 #navit: < jandegr_> sure, but not every homebuilder should have to go throug the signing cermony for own use and friends and family
21:26 #navit: < _rd> I am running on an Galaxy S4
21:27 #navit: < tryagain> do you have custom navit.xml?
21:27 #navit: < _rd> yes, I do
21:28 #navit: < tryagain> what if you use default one?
21:28 #navit: < tryagain> (just rename yours to hide it)
21:28 #navit: < _rd> I need to have a break for today, but I need to fix the icon size issue eventually (to get back from the menu to the map is very difficult)
21:28 #navit: < _rd> ok, I can try that.
21:30 #navit: < jandegr_> btw recently I started using : https://github.com/Todd-Werelius/Navit-Android-Build-Script/blob/master/navitBuild.sh
21:30 #navit: < _rd> The main menu size is ok again, but the menu looks broken, i.e. icons overlap
21:30 #navit: < _rd> Do you want a screenshot?
21:30 #navit: < jandegr_> just updated it a little and modified it not to build as root
21:30 #navit: < tryagain> sure, i'd like to have a screenshot
21:32 #navit: < tryagain> jandegr, make apkg actually uses a debug key, which is created on the fly, if it's missing.
21:32 #navit: < _rd> Thanks for sharing the link
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21:36 #navit: < _rd> http://bokomoko.de/~rd/Navit/Screenshot_2015-01-20-22-32-22.png
21:38 #navit: < tryagain> hm, icons look quite much blurred...
21:39 #navit: < tryagain> my time is out now, will attempt to reproduce S3 parameters on emulator...
21:39 #navit: < tryagain> thank you rd_
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21:40 #navit: < _rd> I have an S4, not an S3
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