Not the point. (Again, if he said it). I couldn't care less about whether Haiti is offended either. Fuck Haiti.

I do think it would be shitty for a standing US President to say that he doesn't want people from there but would rather have well-trained socialists from northern Europe. Call me crazy. On what possible basis would he make that distinction? We both know. Whatever.

It's just a way to slam the countries, sure. But it's also a shot across the bow at the "other people." We do better here with more, not less, of those other people, the vast majority of which come here to work hard and do better than they can where they came from.

Do we really need a bunch more Norwegians and Swedes in the U.S.? What the fuck for? This is still, last I checked, a country based on capitalism. Not unfettered capitalism, sure, and we have our problems, sure, but that's still the deal here. A bunch of people used to working 9 to 4 with a 1.5 hour lunch break, free everything, a year off for maternity and paternity leave, etc. etc.

Yeah, we need more of THOSE guys.

Just fuck.

Europeans come here because they can make more money.

You know that right?

No, really?

People who want to work hard, appreciate the opportunity here and are willing to do things for a real market rate belong here. Everyone else can stay put where they are.

Do you have an issue with that? It's a simple point of view to understand.

My point is that Europeans coming here are fine.

You claimed you don't want them because they are socialist.

I don't care how hungry some unskilled dude from Somalia is.

My point is that some dummy, be it Trump or someone else, decrying that we need fewer 'shit hole' immigrants and more Norwegian immigrants is probably loading a lot of bias in that view. The truth is, like it or not, the free flow of capital and labor is a good thing for everyone, and wishing some guy from Norway - some guy who grew up with government covering a lot of his standard of living - come here over some guy who's ready to work his ass off and make something for his family, is fs.

He can work his ass off in his own fucking country. Why does he have to come here to do it? Since he's working 3 jobs, all he's doing is displacing 3 American workers and putting them on foodstamps and Medicaid. I'm ready to work my ass off in a Chinese factory making fake shit so Bezos can get richer. It's so uncompassionate of them not to let a hungry worker like me emigrate there.

Not the point. (Again, if he said it). I couldn't care less about whether Haiti is offended either. Fuck Haiti.

I do think it would be shitty for a standing US President to say that he doesn't want people from there but would rather have well-trained socialists from northern Europe. Call me crazy. On what possible basis would he make that distinction? We both know. Whatever.

It's just a way to slam the countries, sure. But it's also a shot across the bow at the "other people." We do better here with more, not less, of those other people, the vast majority of which come here to work hard and do better than they can where they came from.

Do we really need a bunch more Norwegians and Swedes in the U.S.? What the fuck for? This is still, last I checked, a country based on capitalism. Not unfettered capitalism, sure, and we have our problems, sure, but that's still the deal here. A bunch of people used to working 9 to 4 with a 1.5 hour lunch break, free everything, a year off for maternity and paternity leave, etc. etc.

Yeah, we need more of THOSE guys.

Just fuck.

Europeans come here because they can make more money.

You know that right?

No, really?

People who want to work hard, appreciate the opportunity here and are willing to do things for a real market rate belong here. Everyone else can stay put where they are.

Do you have an issue with that? It's a simple point of view to understand.

Not the point. (Again, if he said it). I couldn't care less about whether Haiti is offended either. Fuck Haiti.

I do think it would be shitty for a standing US President to say that he doesn't want people from there but would rather have well-trained socialists from northern Europe. Call me crazy. On what possible basis would he make that distinction? We both know. Whatever.

It's just a way to slam the countries, sure. But it's also a shot across the bow at the "other people." We do better here with more, not less, of those other people, the vast majority of which come here to work hard and do better than they can where they came from.

Do we really need a bunch more Norwegians and Swedes in the U.S.? What the fuck for? This is still, last I checked, a country based on capitalism. Not unfettered capitalism, sure, and we have our problems, sure, but that's still the deal here. A bunch of people used to working 9 to 4 with a 1.5 hour lunch break, free everything, a year off for maternity and paternity leave, etc. etc.

Yeah, we need more of THOSE guys.

Just fuck.

Europeans come here because they can make more money.

You know that right?

No, really?

People who want to work hard, appreciate the opportunity here and are willing to do things for a real market rate belong here. Everyone else can stay put where they are.

Do you have an issue with that? It's a simple point of view to understand.

My point is that Europeans coming here are fine.

You claimed you don't want them because they are socialist.

I don't care how hungry some unskilled dude from Somalia is.

My point is that some dummy, be it Trump or someone else, decrying that we need fewer 'shit hole' immigrants and more Norwegian immigrants is probably loading a lot of bias in that view. The truth is, like it or not, the free flow of capital and labor is a good thing for everyone, and wishing some guy from Norway - some guy who grew up with government covering a lot of his standard of living - come here over some guy who's ready to work his ass off and make something for his family, is fs.

He can work his ass off in his own fucking country. Why does he have to come here to do it? Since he's working 3 jobs, all he's doing is displacing 3 American workers and putting them on foodstamps and Medicaid. I'm ready to work my ass off in a Chinese factory making fake shit so Bezos can get richer. It's so uncompassionate of them not to let a hungry worker like me emigrate there.

If you're getting beat out for jobs by immigrants, you should be deported.

Not the point. (Again, if he said it). I couldn't care less about whether Haiti is offended either. Fuck Haiti.

I do think it would be shitty for a standing US President to say that he doesn't want people from there but would rather have well-trained socialists from northern Europe. Call me crazy. On what possible basis would he make that distinction? We both know. Whatever.

It's just a way to slam the countries, sure. But it's also a shot across the bow at the "other people." We do better here with more, not less, of those other people, the vast majority of which come here to work hard and do better than they can where they came from.

Do we really need a bunch more Norwegians and Swedes in the U.S.? What the fuck for? This is still, last I checked, a country based on capitalism. Not unfettered capitalism, sure, and we have our problems, sure, but that's still the deal here. A bunch of people used to working 9 to 4 with a 1.5 hour lunch break, free everything, a year off for maternity and paternity leave, etc. etc.

Yeah, we need more of THOSE guys.

Just fuck.

Europeans come here because they can make more money.

You know that right?

No, really?

People who want to work hard, appreciate the opportunity here and are willing to do things for a real market rate belong here. Everyone else can stay put where they are.

Do you have an issue with that? It's a simple point of view to understand.

Not the point. (Again, if he said it). I couldn't care less about whether Haiti is offended either. Fuck Haiti.

I do think it would be shitty for a standing US President to say that he doesn't want people from there but would rather have well-trained socialists from northern Europe. Call me crazy. On what possible basis would he make that distinction? We both know. Whatever.

It's just a way to slam the countries, sure. But it's also a shot across the bow at the "other people." We do better here with more, not less, of those other people, the vast majority of which come here to work hard and do better than they can where they came from.

Do we really need a bunch more Norwegians and Swedes in the U.S.? What the fuck for? This is still, last I checked, a country based on capitalism. Not unfettered capitalism, sure, and we have our problems, sure, but that's still the deal here. A bunch of people used to working 9 to 4 with a 1.5 hour lunch break, free everything, a year off for maternity and paternity leave, etc. etc.

Yeah, we need more of THOSE guys.

Just fuck.

Europeans come here because they can make more money.

You know that right?

No, really?

People who want to work hard, appreciate the opportunity here and are willing to do things for a real market rate belong here. Everyone else can stay put where they are.

Do you have an issue with that? It's a simple point of view to understand.

My point is that Europeans coming here are fine.

You claimed you don't want them because they are socialist.

I don't care how hungry some unskilled dude from Somalia is.

My point is that some dummy, be it Trump or someone else, decrying that we need fewer 'shit hole' immigrants and more Norwegian immigrants is probably loading a lot of bias in that view. The truth is, like it or not, the free flow of capital and labor is a good thing for everyone, and wishing some guy from Norway - some guy who grew up with government covering a lot of his standard of living - come here over some guy who's ready to work his ass off and make something for his family, is fs.

He can work his ass off in his own fucking country. Why does he have to come here to do it? Since he's working 3 jobs, all he's doing is displacing 3 American workers and putting them on foodstamps and Medicaid. I'm ready to work my ass off in a Chinese factory making fake shit so Bezos can get richer. It's so uncompassionate of them not to let a hungry worker like me emigrate there.

It’s sad you think so little of American workers. You make them sound like the biggest pussies in the global workforce. You sound like the expert though, so it must be true.

Not the point. (Again, if he said it). I couldn't care less about whether Haiti is offended either. Fuck Haiti.

I do think it would be shitty for a standing US President to say that he doesn't want people from there but would rather have well-trained socialists from northern Europe. Call me crazy. On what possible basis would he make that distinction? We both know. Whatever.

It's just a way to slam the countries, sure. But it's also a shot across the bow at the "other people." We do better here with more, not less, of those other people, the vast majority of which come here to work hard and do better than they can where they came from.

Do we really need a bunch more Norwegians and Swedes in the U.S.? What the fuck for? This is still, last I checked, a country based on capitalism. Not unfettered capitalism, sure, and we have our problems, sure, but that's still the deal here. A bunch of people used to working 9 to 4 with a 1.5 hour lunch break, free everything, a year off for maternity and paternity leave, etc. etc.

Yeah, we need more of THOSE guys.

Just fuck.

Europeans come here because they can make more money.

You know that right?

No, really?

People who want to work hard, appreciate the opportunity here and are willing to do things for a real market rate belong here. Everyone else can stay put where they are.

Do you have an issue with that? It's a simple point of view to understand.

My point is that Europeans coming here are fine.

You claimed you don't want them because they are socialist.

I don't care how hungry some unskilled dude from Somalia is.

My point is that some dummy, be it Trump or someone else, decrying that we need fewer 'shit hole' immigrants and more Norwegian immigrants is probably loading a lot of bias in that view. The truth is, like it or not, the free flow of capital and labor is a good thing for everyone, and wishing some guy from Norway - some guy who grew up with government covering a lot of his standard of living - come here over some guy who's ready to work his ass off and make something for his family, is fs.

He can work his ass off in his own fucking country. Why does he have to come here to do it? Since he's working 3 jobs, all he's doing is displacing 3 American workers and putting them on foodstamps and Medicaid. I'm ready to work my ass off in a Chinese factory making fake shit so Bezos can get richer. It's so uncompassionate of them not to let a hungry worker like me emigrate there.

There's nothing there and nothing he can do. Government is 100% corrupt and nobody gets anything on the merits.

I'm clear that you don't care about that; I'm just as clear that I do. The accident where you were born is of little consequence to me. If you've got the goods, bring 'em here.

And, those 3 people here who can't compete? I feel about them the way you feel about the Haitian.

In the final analysis, letting more of those people here helps create value by allowing labor and capital to operate naturally. A guy who cuts my lawn shouldn't make anywhere near what I (pretend to) make. You can whine about it all you want, but the market says so. Your protection of those 3 is what creates more government tyt sukers.

You're not a communist/unionist/protectionist because I hate you. I hate you because you're a communist/unionist/protectionist.

@Swaye I don't put you as a Trump dick sucker like Race. And I really don't give a shit if Trump calls them shit holes. However, people in those countries do care. Do you think at this point in time, we really need to alienate our country from literally every other country in the world? Except Norway I guess.

There is no evidence that Trump spoke this truth and Swaye pointing out that it is true has nothing to do with your fantasies about sucking dick

I don't know anything about Durbin but I would take almost anyone's word over the Stable Genius, who has zero credibility and proven to be a pathological liar

Do you think those countries are shitholes?

I wouldn't know, I've never been. You're missing the point though. The outrage isn't that he insulted the countries, it's that he said "Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?" which is basically saying "why are we letting more brown people in?". While I'm sure you and your fellow Troomps share the same sentiment, that is a ridiculous statement for the president to make in a formal meeting.

Hiding behind ignorance isn't a good look. Simple question - are they shitholes or not?

That's the point

He didn't say anything about brown people in what he may or may not have said

Calling me and Trump voters racist is all you really care about. It won't work any better next time than it did last time

Its you that has the focus on skin color for the reason the place is a shithole.

It's funny that you continue to deny that Troomps are racist. While you're not as blatantly racist as others, look at your fellow deplorable Troomps on this board who are openly racist - OBK, Sledog, doogie, pawz, etc. You are the company you keep.

So back to the Stable Genius, why do you think he questions why we should let more immigrants in from the "shithole" countries if it's not the color of their skin?

Let me tell you something kid. I've experienced a lot of real racism over the last 35 years. Its probably the only issue I actually take seriously here.

I don't care if some ignorant twit like you calls me a racist. I care about the devaluation of racism by the left. If everything is racist nothing is and the racists get an excuse to ignore the remaining real racism left here.

The democrats need to actually put forward a platform to help all Americans including minorities rather than running on the GOP is racist and so are their voters so vote for us!

Hillary had no answers so she sat home and let Trump take the 3 states he needed. He's doing things for this economy that will get him reelected. Nothing from the dems but more cries of racism. Its all you have.

Trump and others have been clear that American immigration policy should help America. It has nothing to do with color. It has to do with skills and the ability to self support once here.

I don't disagree with that at all. I also tend to accept it as a reality of life.

Guess what? People dislike other people for all manner of sane, rational, smart, stupid, insane, irrational, biased and other reasons. It's the way it is. I don't take it personally, but I don't pretend it's not there either.

In my opinion the best we can do is get equal treatment under the law, equality in employment and housing, and the elimination of other institutional racism that effects lives.

If the standard is to get everyone thinking equality we'll never get there. The point about white racism is the historical institutions that were tainted by it.

But your right, all sorts of different races hate other races and everyone hates whitey. So there's that.

My point is the dems need a better campaign than calling everyone racist. It really does water it down to a meaningless thing. Because elections are about public policy and economic policy should benefit the most Americans regardless of race. A tax cut is not racist. How stupid does that look in print yet that's one of the arguments against it.

If Trump just focused on the economy, people would like him.

He is...large, unregulated immigration has been one of the main drivers in keeping wages down across all skill fronts.

You think most people are going to hear 'Trump wants to limit immigration from "shithole" countries' and think 'hummm, that's not a good idea?'

Better enjoy the hysteria for the next couple of days...Monday could be interesting.

Large, unregulated immigration has been one of the main drivers in keeping wages down across all skin fronts too. Large, unregulated immigration is racist because it primarily adversely affects minorities already living in the US.

If that were true, so be it. But it's not. It affects fourth generation Americans who were raised by people who can't get it done. So sorry for them. I grew up in a town full of that shit: they're mediocre and clueless, and were raised that way. Look at Salemcoog, and how he fumbles and bumbles his way around here. Exhibit A. Can you imagine him competing in a competitive labor pool?

But I don't care. However they got there, they're a net drag and I'm not going to pay enough for them to mow my lawn so they can have "comparable benefits" and "have a working wage" and live like I (pretend to) do. At that price, I'll mow it myself. Fortunately, I haven't mowed my lawn in 10 years.

@Swaye I don't put you as a Trump dick sucker like Race. And I really don't give a shit if Trump calls them shit holes. However, people in those countries do care. Do you think at this point in time, we really need to alienate our country from literally every other country in the world? Except Norway I guess.

There is no evidence that Trump spoke this truth and Swaye pointing out that it is true has nothing to do with your fantasies about sucking dick

I don't know anything about Durbin but I would take almost anyone's word over the Stable Genius, who has zero credibility and proven to be a pathological liar

Do you think those countries are shitholes?

I wouldn't know, I've never been. You're missing the point though. The outrage isn't that he insulted the countries, it's that he said "Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?" which is basically saying "why are we letting more brown people in?". While I'm sure you and your fellow Troomps share the same sentiment, that is a ridiculous statement for the president to make in a formal meeting.

Hiding behind ignorance isn't a good look. Simple question - are they shitholes or not?

That's the point

He didn't say anything about brown people in what he may or may not have said

Calling me and Trump voters racist is all you really care about. It won't work any better next time than it did last time

Its you that has the focus on skin color for the reason the place is a shithole.

It's funny that you continue to deny that Troomps are racist. While you're not as blatantly racist as others, look at your fellow deplorable Troomps on this board who are openly racist - OBK, Sledog, doogie, pawz, etc. You are the company you keep.

So back to the Stable Genius, why do you think he questions why we should let more immigrants in from the "shithole" countries if it's not the color of their skin?

Let me tell you something kid. I've experienced a lot of real racism over the last 35 years. Its probably the only issue I actually take seriously here.

I don't care if some ignorant twit like you calls me a racist. I care about the devaluation of racism by the left. If everything is racist nothing is and the racists get an excuse to ignore the remaining real racism left here.

The democrats need to actually put forward a platform to help all Americans including minorities rather than running on the GOP is racist and so are their voters so vote for us!

Hillary had no answers so she sat home and let Trump take the 3 states he needed. He's doing things for this economy that will get him reelected. Nothing from the dems but more cries of racism. Its all you have.

Trump and others have been clear that American immigration policy should help America. It has nothing to do with color. It has to do with skills and the ability to self support once here.

I don't disagree with that at all. I also tend to accept it as a reality of life.

Guess what? People dislike other people for all manner of sane, rational, smart, stupid, insane, irrational, biased and other reasons. It's the way it is. I don't take it personally, but I don't pretend it's not there either.

In my opinion the best we can do is get equal treatment under the law, equality in employment and housing, and the elimination of other institutional racism that effects lives.

If the standard is to get everyone thinking equality we'll never get there. The point about white racism is the historical institutions that were tainted by it.

But your right, all sorts of different races hate other races and everyone hates whitey. So there's that.

My point is the dems need a better campaign than calling everyone racist. It really does water it down to a meaningless thing. Because elections are about public policy and economic policy should benefit the most Americans regardless of race. A tax cut is not racist. How stupid does that look in print yet that's one of the arguments against it.

If Trump just focused on the economy, people would like him.

He is...large, unregulated immigration has been one of the main drivers in keeping wages down across all skill fronts.

You think most people are going to hear 'Trump wants to limit immigration from "shithole" countries' and think 'hummm, that's not a good idea?'

Better enjoy the hysteria for the next couple of days...Monday could be interesting.

Large, unregulated immigration has been one of the main drivers in keeping wages down across all skin fronts too. Large, unregulated immigration is racist because it primarily adversely affects minorities already living in the US.

If that were true, so be it. But it's not. It affects fourth generation Americans who were raised by people who can't get it done. So sorry for them. I grew up in a town full of that shit: they're mediocre and clueless, and were raised that way. Look at Salemcoog, and how he fumbles and bumbles his way around here. Exhibit A. Can you imagine him competing in a competitive labor pool?

But I don't care. However they got there, they're a net drag and I'm not going to pay enough for them to mow my lawn so they can have "comparable benefits" and "have a working wage" and live like I (pretend to) do. At that price, I'll mow it myself. Fortunately, I haven't mowed my lawn in 10 years.

Jesus Christo.... At least Pumpys rambles are funny and somewhat coherent. You contradict yourself at least 3-4 times in every aimless ramble that you queef out.

@Swaye I don't put you as a Trump dick sucker like Race. And I really don't give a shit if Trump calls them shit holes. However, people in those countries do care. Do you think at this point in time, we really need to alienate our country from literally every other country in the world? Except Norway I guess.

There is no evidence that Trump spoke this truth and Swaye pointing out that it is true has nothing to do with your fantasies about sucking dick

I don't know anything about Durbin but I would take almost anyone's word over the Stable Genius, who has zero credibility and proven to be a pathological liar

Do you think those countries are shitholes?

I wouldn't know, I've never been. You're missing the point though. The outrage isn't that he insulted the countries, it's that he said "Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?" which is basically saying "why are we letting more brown people in?". While I'm sure you and your fellow Troomps share the same sentiment, that is a ridiculous statement for the president to make in a formal meeting.

Hiding behind ignorance isn't a good look. Simple question - are they shitholes or not?

That's the point

He didn't say anything about brown people in what he may or may not have said

Calling me and Trump voters racist is all you really care about. It won't work any better next time than it did last time

Its you that has the focus on skin color for the reason the place is a shithole.

It's funny that you continue to deny that Troomps are racist. While you're not as blatantly racist as others, look at your fellow deplorable Troomps on this board who are openly racist - OBK, Sledog, doogie, pawz, etc. You are the company you keep.

So back to the Stable Genius, why do you think he questions why we should let more immigrants in from the "shithole" countries if it's not the color of their skin?

Let me tell you something kid. I've experienced a lot of real racism over the last 35 years. Its probably the only issue I actually take seriously here.

I don't care if some ignorant twit like you calls me a racist. I care about the devaluation of racism by the left. If everything is racist nothing is and the racists get an excuse to ignore the remaining real racism left here.

The democrats need to actually put forward a platform to help all Americans including minorities rather than running on the GOP is racist and so are their voters so vote for us!

Hillary had no answers so she sat home and let Trump take the 3 states he needed. He's doing things for this economy that will get him reelected. Nothing from the dems but more cries of racism. Its all you have.

Trump and others have been clear that American immigration policy should help America. It has nothing to do with color. It has to do with skills and the ability to self support once here.

I don't disagree with that at all. I also tend to accept it as a reality of life.

Guess what? People dislike other people for all manner of sane, rational, smart, stupid, insane, irrational, biased and other reasons. It's the way it is. I don't take it personally, but I don't pretend it's not there either.

In my opinion the best we can do is get equal treatment under the law, equality in employment and housing, and the elimination of other institutional racism that effects lives.

If the standard is to get everyone thinking equality we'll never get there. The point about white racism is the historical institutions that were tainted by it.

But your right, all sorts of different races hate other races and everyone hates whitey. So there's that.

My point is the dems need a better campaign than calling everyone racist. It really does water it down to a meaningless thing. Because elections are about public policy and economic policy should benefit the most Americans regardless of race. A tax cut is not racist. How stupid does that look in print yet that's one of the arguments against it.

If Trump just focused on the economy, people would like him.

He is...large, unregulated immigration has been one of the main drivers in keeping wages down across all skill fronts.

You think most people are going to hear 'Trump wants to limit immigration from "shithole" countries' and think 'hummm, that's not a good idea?'

Better enjoy the hysteria for the next couple of days...Monday could be interesting.

Large, unregulated immigration has been one of the main drivers in keeping wages down across all skin fronts too. Large, unregulated immigration is racist because it primarily adversely affects minorities already living in the US.

If that were true, so be it. But it's not. It affects fourth generation Americans who were raised by people who can't get it done. So sorry for them. I grew up in a town full of that shit: they're mediocre and clueless, and were raised that way. Look at Salemcoog, and how he fumbles and bumbles his way around here. Exhibit A. Can you imagine him competing in a competitive labor pool?

But I don't care. However they got there, they're a net drag and I'm not going to pay enough for them to mow my lawn so they can have "comparable benefits" and "have a working wage" and live like I (pretend to) do. At that price, I'll mow it myself. Fortunately, I haven't mowed my lawn in 10 years.

A flaw in your argument, Creep, is that is doesn't take into account the ginormous social costs of having such a large percentage of low skilled, blue collar natives dropping out of the work force. It may cost you less to have the roofing company hire hardworking Jose to put new shingles on your house, but you're still paying hurty back, white guy's disability. We need to get the natives that can and should be working back into the labor force before we open the gates. That they don't want to work simply means we've made it too easy for them not to.

@Swaye I don't put you as a Trump dick sucker like Race. And I really don't give a shit if Trump calls them shit holes. However, people in those countries do care. Do you think at this point in time, we really need to alienate our country from literally every other country in the world? Except Norway I guess.

There is no evidence that Trump spoke this truth and Swaye pointing out that it is true has nothing to do with your fantasies about sucking dick

I don't know anything about Durbin but I would take almost anyone's word over the Stable Genius, who has zero credibility and proven to be a pathological liar

Do you think those countries are shitholes?

I wouldn't know, I've never been. You're missing the point though. The outrage isn't that he insulted the countries, it's that he said "Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?" which is basically saying "why are we letting more brown people in?". While I'm sure you and your fellow Troomps share the same sentiment, that is a ridiculous statement for the president to make in a formal meeting.

Hiding behind ignorance isn't a good look. Simple question - are they shitholes or not?

That's the point

He didn't say anything about brown people in what he may or may not have said

Calling me and Trump voters racist is all you really care about. It won't work any better next time than it did last time

Its you that has the focus on skin color for the reason the place is a shithole.

It's funny that you continue to deny that Troomps are racist. While you're not as blatantly racist as others, look at your fellow deplorable Troomps on this board who are openly racist - OBK, Sledog, doogie, pawz, etc. You are the company you keep.

So back to the Stable Genius, why do you think he questions why we should let more immigrants in from the "shithole" countries if it's not the color of their skin?

Let me tell you something kid. I've experienced a lot of real racism over the last 35 years. Its probably the only issue I actually take seriously here.

I don't care if some ignorant twit like you calls me a racist. I care about the devaluation of racism by the left. If everything is racist nothing is and the racists get an excuse to ignore the remaining real racism left here.

The democrats need to actually put forward a platform to help all Americans including minorities rather than running on the GOP is racist and so are their voters so vote for us!

Hillary had no answers so she sat home and let Trump take the 3 states he needed. He's doing things for this economy that will get him reelected. Nothing from the dems but more cries of racism. Its all you have.

Trump and others have been clear that American immigration policy should help America. It has nothing to do with color. It has to do with skills and the ability to self support once here.

I don't disagree with that at all. I also tend to accept it as a reality of life.

Guess what? People dislike other people for all manner of sane, rational, smart, stupid, insane, irrational, biased and other reasons. It's the way it is. I don't take it personally, but I don't pretend it's not there either.

In my opinion the best we can do is get equal treatment under the law, equality in employment and housing, and the elimination of other institutional racism that effects lives.

If the standard is to get everyone thinking equality we'll never get there. The point about white racism is the historical institutions that were tainted by it.

But your right, all sorts of different races hate other races and everyone hates whitey. So there's that.

My point is the dems need a better campaign than calling everyone racist. It really does water it down to a meaningless thing. Because elections are about public policy and economic policy should benefit the most Americans regardless of race. A tax cut is not racist. How stupid does that look in print yet that's one of the arguments against it.

If Trump just focused on the economy, people would like him.

He is...large, unregulated immigration has been one of the main drivers in keeping wages down across all skill fronts.

You think most people are going to hear 'Trump wants to limit immigration from "shithole" countries' and think 'hummm, that's not a good idea?'

Better enjoy the hysteria for the next couple of days...Monday could be interesting.

Large, unregulated immigration has been one of the main drivers in keeping wages down across all skin fronts too. Large, unregulated immigration is racist because it primarily adversely affects minorities already living in the US.

If that were true, so be it. But it's not. It affects fourth generation Americans who were raised by people who can't get it done. So sorry for them. I grew up in a town full of that shit: they're mediocre and clueless, and were raised that way. Look at Salemcoog, and how he fumbles and bumbles his way around here. Exhibit A. Can you imagine him competing in a competitive labor pool?

But I don't care. However they got there, they're a net drag and I'm not going to pay enough for them to mow my lawn so they can have "comparable benefits" and "have a working wage" and live like I (pretend to) do. At that price, I'll mow it myself. Fortunately, I haven't mowed my lawn in 10 years.

A flaw in your argument, Creep, is that is doesn't take into account the ginormous social costs of having such a large percentage of low skilled, blue collar natives dropping out of the work force. It may cost you less to have the roofing company hire hardworking Jose to put new shingles on your house, but you're still paying hurty back, white guy's disability. We need to get the natives that can and should be working back into the labor force before we open the gates. That they don't want to work simply means we've made it too easy for them not to.

At least 70% of the countries on earth are shitholes. So fucking what. It has nothing to do with race. The media and SJW's spin it that way

One thing I hate about most liberals today is that they conflate everything into racism, sexism, or some other ism with help from media talking heads.

We have enough immigrants here already. There are more than enough. What is wrong with Trump vying for more skilled and educated types and cutting it from 1,000,000 to 500,000 per year. Half a million isn't enough? Bullshit. There are plenty of good Americans in need of help here already. Throw some resources their way.

this entire pile of shit of everyone calling out the best racists in each poast is because of this kind of reporting

"referring to some as "shithole countries," according to two sources familiar with the comments.

Trump's remarks, made in the White House, came as Democratic Senator Dick Durbin and Republican Senator Lindsey Graham briefed the president on a newly drafted immigration bill being touted by a bipartisan group of senators, according to the sources, who asked not to be identified.

Whatever, no ones opinions will be changed, feelings will be hurt, and Jake Browning will still suck

Not the point. (Again, if he said it). I couldn't care less about whether Haiti is offended either. Fuck Haiti.

I do think it would be shitty for a standing US President to say that he doesn't want people from there but would rather have well-trained socialists from northern Europe. Call me crazy. On what possible basis would he make that distinction? We both know. Whatever.

It's just a way to slam the countries, sure. But it's also a shot across the bow at the "other people." We do better here with more, not less, of those other people, the vast majority of which come here to work hard and do better than they can where they came from.

Do we really need a bunch more Norwegians and Swedes in the U.S.? What the fuck for? This is still, last I checked, a country based on capitalism. Not unfettered capitalism, sure, and we have our problems, sure, but that's still the deal here. A bunch of people used to working 9 to 4 with a 1.5 hour lunch break, free everything, a year off for maternity and paternity leave, etc. etc.

Yeah, we need more of THOSE guys.

Just fuck.

Europeans come here because they can make more money.

You know that right?

No, really?

People who want to work hard, appreciate the opportunity here and are willing to do things for a real market rate belong here. Everyone else can stay put where they are.

Do you have an issue with that? It's a simple point of view to understand.

My point is that Europeans coming here are fine.

You claimed you don't want them because they are socialist.

I don't care how hungry some unskilled dude from Somalia is.

My point is that some dummy, be it Trump or someone else, decrying that we need fewer 'shit hole' immigrants and more Norwegian immigrants is probably loading a lot of bias in that view. The truth is, like it or not, the free flow of capital and labor is a good thing for everyone, and wishing some guy from Norway - some guy who grew up with government covering a lot of his standard of living - come here over some guy who's ready to work his ass off and make something for his family, is fs.

He can work his ass off in his own fucking country. Why does he have to come here to do it? Since he's working 3 jobs, all he's doing is displacing 3 American workers and putting them on foodstamps and Medicaid. I'm ready to work my ass off in a Chinese factory making fake shit so Bezos can get richer. It's so uncompassionate of them not to let a hungry worker like me emigrate there.

There's nothing there and nothing he can do. Government is 100% corrupt and nobody gets anything on the merits.

I'm clear that you don't care about that; I'm just as clear that I do. The accident where you were born is of little consequence to me. If you've got the goods, bring 'em here.

And, those 3 people here who can't compete? I feel about them the way you feel about the Haitian.

In the final analysis, letting more of those people here helps create value by allowing labor and capital to operate naturally. A guy who cuts my lawn shouldn't make anywhere near what I (pretend to) make. You can whine about it all you want, but the market says so. Your protection of those 3 is what creates more government tyt sukers.

You're not a communist/unionist/protectionist because I hate you. I hate you because you're a communist/unionist/protectionist.

Damn fucking right I'm a protectionist. If you leftard Soros shills had your way, you would Merkelize the US with as many immigrants from shithole countries as possible because they make up your future electorate. You need a permanent, poor underclass to play identity politics with. Like you've been doing for decades already. With more and more unskilled jobs being automated, why do you think it's a good idea to import unskilled labor? Don't answer that question because I already answered it for you in a previous sentence. Free flow of capital is fine as long as the lion's share of it flows to the US and not the other way around. As for labor, let it flow free too. WITHIN US borders.

At least 70% of the countries on earth are shitholes. So fucking what. It has nothing to do with race. The media and SJW's spin it that way

One thing I hate about most liberals today is that they conflate everything into racism, sexism, or some other ism with help from media talking heads.

We have enough immigrants here already. There are more than enough. What is wrong with Trump vying for more skilled and educated types and cutting it from 1,000,000 to 500,000 per year. Half a million isn't enough? Bullshit. There are plenty of good Americans in need of help here already. Throw some resources their way.

Half a million immigrants = Hundreds of thousands of jobs taken away from native born Americans every year. The rest of them head straight to the dole to abuse the system.

Not the point. (Again, if he said it). I couldn't care less about whether Haiti is offended either. Fuck Haiti.

I do think it would be shitty for a standing US President to say that he doesn't want people from there but would rather have well-trained socialists from northern Europe. Call me crazy. On what possible basis would he make that distinction? We both know. Whatever.

It's just a way to slam the countries, sure. But it's also a shot across the bow at the "other people." We do better here with more, not less, of those other people, the vast majority of which come here to work hard and do better than they can where they came from.

Do we really need a bunch more Norwegians and Swedes in the U.S.? What the fuck for? This is still, last I checked, a country based on capitalism. Not unfettered capitalism, sure, and we have our problems, sure, but that's still the deal here. A bunch of people used to working 9 to 4 with a 1.5 hour lunch break, free everything, a year off for maternity and paternity leave, etc. etc.

Yeah, we need more of THOSE guys.

Just fuck.

Europeans come here because they can make more money.

You know that right?

No, really?

People who want to work hard, appreciate the opportunity here and are willing to do things for a real market rate belong here. Everyone else can stay put where they are.

Do you have an issue with that? It's a simple point of view to understand.

My point is that Europeans coming here are fine.

You claimed you don't want them because they are socialist.

I don't care how hungry some unskilled dude from Somalia is.

My point is that some dummy, be it Trump or someone else, decrying that we need fewer 'shit hole' immigrants and more Norwegian immigrants is probably loading a lot of bias in that view. The truth is, like it or not, the free flow of capital and labor is a good thing for everyone, and wishing some guy from Norway - some guy who grew up with government covering a lot of his standard of living - come here over some guy who's ready to work his ass off and make something for his family, is fs.

He can work his ass off in his own fucking country. Why does he have to come here to do it? Since he's working 3 jobs, all he's doing is displacing 3 American workers and putting them on foodstamps and Medicaid. I'm ready to work my ass off in a Chinese factory making fake shit so Bezos can get richer. It's so uncompassionate of them not to let a hungry worker like me emigrate there.

If you're getting beat out for jobs by immigrants, you should be deported.

Not the point. (Again, if he said it). I couldn't care less about whether Haiti is offended either. Fuck Haiti.

I do think it would be shitty for a standing US President to say that he doesn't want people from there but would rather have well-trained socialists from northern Europe. Call me crazy. On what possible basis would he make that distinction? We both know. Whatever.

It's just a way to slam the countries, sure. But it's also a shot across the bow at the "other people." We do better here with more, not less, of those other people, the vast majority of which come here to work hard and do better than they can where they came from.

Do we really need a bunch more Norwegians and Swedes in the U.S.? What the fuck for? This is still, last I checked, a country based on capitalism. Not unfettered capitalism, sure, and we have our problems, sure, but that's still the deal here. A bunch of people used to working 9 to 4 with a 1.5 hour lunch break, free everything, a year off for maternity and paternity leave, etc. etc.

Yeah, we need more of THOSE guys.

Just fuck.

Europeans come here because they can make more money.

You know that right?

No, really?

People who want to work hard, appreciate the opportunity here and are willing to do things for a real market rate belong here. Everyone else can stay put where they are.

Do you have an issue with that? It's a simple point of view to understand.

My point is that Europeans coming here are fine.

You claimed you don't want them because they are socialist.

I don't care how hungry some unskilled dude from Somalia is.

My point is that some dummy, be it Trump or someone else, decrying that we need fewer 'shit hole' immigrants and more Norwegian immigrants is probably loading a lot of bias in that view. The truth is, like it or not, the free flow of capital and labor is a good thing for everyone, and wishing some guy from Norway - some guy who grew up with government covering a lot of his standard of living - come here over some guy who's ready to work his ass off and make something for his family, is fs.

He can work his ass off in his own fucking country. Why does he have to come here to do it? Since he's working 3 jobs, all he's doing is displacing 3 American workers and putting them on foodstamps and Medicaid. I'm ready to work my ass off in a Chinese factory making fake shit so Bezos can get richer. It's so uncompassionate of them not to let a hungry worker like me emigrate there.

There's nothing there and nothing he can do. Government is 100% corrupt and nobody gets anything on the merits.

I'm clear that you don't care about that; I'm just as clear that I do. The accident where you were born is of little consequence to me. If you've got the goods, bring 'em here.

And, those 3 people here who can't compete? I feel about them the way you feel about the Haitian.

In the final analysis, letting more of those people here helps create value by allowing labor and capital to operate naturally. A guy who cuts my lawn shouldn't make anywhere near what I (pretend to) make. You can whine about it all you want, but the market says so. Your protection of those 3 is what creates more government tyt sukers.

You're not a communist/unionist/protectionist because I hate you. I hate you because you're a communist/unionist/protectionist.

Damn fucking right I'm a protectionist. If you leftard Soros shills had your way, you would Merkelize the US with as many immigrants from shithole countries as possible because they make up your future electorate. You need a permanent, poor underclass to play identity politics with. With more and more unskilled jobs being automated, why do you think it's a good idea to import unskilled labor? Don't answer that question because I already answered it for you in a previous sentence. Free flow of capital is fine as long as the lion's share of it flows to the US and not the other way around. As for labor, let it flow free too. WITHIN US borders.

Protectionists are mostly leftists; Leftists and extreme right wing nationalists.

Noteworthy protectionists: Vlad Putin, xi jinping, pat Buchanan, Herbert Hoover, George Wallace, all French politicians, and most European politicians. You will be welcome in this team of imbeciles. Congratulations.