Seriously, I just finished watching Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai NEXT and all I can say is what the fuck man?

I do not get this at all? So, in the end the deuteragonist of the series loses, and badly if I may add, and then decides to just quit on us and 'go on a journey'. Seriously, this is the worst ending for her story.

In the novels, you can see that her mom nearly murdered her, her dad left her and she is poor as fuck. And now, she gets the shittiest ending.

Don't even get me started on that shit-tier main character, god fucking hell. The guy had a fucking harem of women to choose from and he constantly avoided them? I mean, put them down nicely at least. The story was good for most of the season till it became total shit towards the end.

Overall, terrible ending for Yozora and I still can't believe the Sena shit, the only good development this season was Rika. She actually took me by surprise. For once, her character was done very well. At this point, even if they pull a season 3 out of their asses, it'll suck badly.

>>102275653>He basically told Sena he loves her. She lost, terribly.
This is a pretty standard method to extend the series. Play it up like some other girl has a chance and then crush her. See Kuroneko in OreImo.

>>102275822
You kidding pal? Where was she violent, and you're forgetting that everyone in the club basically saw her as their leader? What kind of club sees a 'violent, shitty' person as a leader.

And, lets be honest, she was a much better choice than anyone else. What? Should he have picked Sena? The 'smart' idiot who can't tell which way's up? Overall, she honestly loved him, Sena and Kodaka don't really mix together tbh.

>>102275653
It'd require a wall of text and I'm too lazy for that. Check the Haganai's LN thread at animesuki. The last 15 pages have the spoilers for the latest volume. Yozora is the main girl for volume 9, so it's mostly about her and where she went to.

To be honest, it the only possibly sensible ending. The other girls don't see him in a romantic light anymore, even Rika just teases him and she's more of his life coach now. Sena and him don't even get along. They have zero common interests and any relationship they had would break in a day.

>>102276330>nothing about her
Nah, we learn quite a lot about her past in volume 9. The reason why she acted the way she did before the story started and her relationship with her sister and family are touched upon.

>>102276453
I didn't say nothing about her overall, but all we get are her reasons and her past. Her mommy issues and her sister, biggest bitch in the show im tellin ya, but nothing about her and Kadoka.

Don't watch an anime called "Boku." Man this shit is so wrong on so many motherfucking levels yo...I was talking to one of my weeaboo friends and he send me these videos with the name only labeled "Boku" I said to this dude, "What's this shit?" He just giggled and said "Just watch them and MAKE SURE NOBODY IS AROUND YOU WHEN WATCHING IT!" Then I thought it was some weird harem or some strange shit but as I watched the first video, I was like "Yo...what the fuck." THEN IT CONTINUED and I was like "Yoooooooooooooooooooooo....." THEN THEY WENT TO THE ROOF AND THEN I SAID "YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I couldn't fucking believe what I just saw, it was like a retard decided to write an anime, shit was so infuriating. YET I COULDN'T STOP WATCHING IT, THEN EPISODE 11 AND IT WAS MEAT....THAT MEAT....YOOOOOO....THAT MEAT....AND THAT GIRL CONFESSED TO HIM THEN HE...YYYYYYOOOOOOOOOO...THEN THAT NIGGA LEFT THE ROOM THEN YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO......IT WAS LIKE SOME ANIME WANTED TO HAVE A LETS ALL STAY JUST FRIENDS FOREVER ENDING BUT THEY WANTED TO DO SOMETHING "DIFFERENT" AND IT WAS SO FUCKED UP AND GAY, YOU JUST...KEPT WATCHING IT AND THAT'S WHAT I FUCKING DID!!!! THEN I REWATCHED IT THREE TIMES...THREE NIGGAS...THRRREEEEEE! IT...WAS...THRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND "NAN DA TE" WAS WHAT HE SAID NIGGAS, "NAN DA TE" WAS HIS MOTHERFUCKING CATCHPHRASE. OH MY GOD, I AIN'T GOING TO HEAVEN NIGGAS, I ALREADY VOWED TO MURDER THIS FUCKING AUTHOR.

So I just want to tell you all right now...DON'T WATCH AN ANIME LABELED BOKU, DON'T DO IT NIGGA, IT'S SHIT. REMEMBER WHAT I'M SAYING TO YOU NIGGAS!

But Yozora is great and really the kind of girl that sticks to you in the long run for a lasting relationship. She's pure and sentimental at heart and hides that behind a rough and abrasive exterior that you need to overcome in order to see the treasure that is the true her. The beauty in that is the quest/journey for the treasure, not the destination. And once you have obtained it, then you can say that you obtained a real treasure.

>>102278173
Normally I would root for an underdog like Yozora, but she's too nasty towards Sena for me to like her.
Yes, Sena's just a 'stupid' blonde without glasses with some weird interests, but she's likable due to that.

Yozora's got some serious issues and therefore is not marriage material.
Sena only has some mild issues and is good marriage material.

>But muh 'hard exterior and soft interior' Yozora...!
She will most likely dump Kodaka because she will distrust him due to her past abuse.
It will be a hard struggle for Kodaka to retain Yozora once they come together, due to her insecurities stemming from her past.

>>102278676
Nope, if this was any other guy I'd agree but those two share a bond.

They go wayy back. Kodaka is the ONLY person she trusts, literally. She could only be happy if she had Kodoka, and she goes completely out of the way to get him into her.

She constantly tries to isolate him from the others and onto her but it backfired when Sena and him get together. Now, when she's lost absolutely everything, she decides to leave. Because the one person she wanted, she lost.

I think some of you are forgetting the obvious fact that anyone but Yozora winning would leave Yozora with suicide end which is too dark for this series. Meat has money. Rika has her inventions. What the fuck does Yozora have?

>>102278758
She will dump him for being insecure about herself, you dumb dolt.
She has self-esteem issues that need to be dealt with.
And she has a scary yandere side to her.
She is too negatively obsessed with Sena for her own good and extrapolating, I guess that doesn't bode well for Kodaka too.
Face it, kiddo, Yozora is a ticking time bomb, ready to go off any moment.

>>102275912>>102275980
Yozora pretty much bullies Sena. Her tsundere act doesn't work for me because she goes for low blows and actually hurts her (unlike other tsundere acts where the victim MC doesn't really give a shit)

>>102279427
because Sena loves it deep down and Yozora knows it. she just has a hard time accepting it. Yozora will bring out her true masochistic nature and she'll be much happier. then they'll graduate and have a loving dom/sub relationship.

>>102279488
I don't remember a lot of instances, but the scenes where Yozora made Sena read her eroge lines out loud really bothered me as well. I was even getting mad at Kodaka for not stepping in when she was getting too uncomfortable

>>102278820>She constantly tries to isolate him from the others and onto her

And this is why I don't believe Yozora will win Kodaka in the end. They'll return to being friends, and Kodaka and the rest of the Neighbor's Club will be her friends, but Kodaka will ultimately not end up with a neurotic, isolationist, anti-social high school girl. He won't end up with anybody, because he's not looking for love.

>>102280766
I used to think that about Felli in Chrome Shelled Regios. Just a support character, always there for the MC, but his heart was alwasy set on another. And there was a blonde tsundere love interest competing with her too. But then it happened.

There are too many hints about Yukimura having a Past that will be addressed to think she won't be getting some more focus, and that could sway things her way, especially with Kodaka's developing relationship with her. I especially loved the penultimate chapter of Volume 8, where Yukimura showed off her developing personality and engraved her name in his heart.

Sena isn't autistic. She's extremely spoiled and infantilized by her dad, and has little in the way of real life experience. She's used to getting her own way and having boys do stuff for her because she's hot.

>>102275316>Don't even get me started on that shit-tier main character, god fucking hell. The guy had a fucking harem of women to choose from and he constantly avoided them? I mean, put them down nicely at least.
Somebody obviously didn't pay any attention.
He's never had friends before and when they fell for him he didn't know what to do. He didn't want to hurt their feelings and lose them so he pretended not to notice. He did it all for the club and so that they could all stay friends.
How hard is that to follow?

>>102280604
The meat thing is really the only thing we're sure she liked. Yozora still isn't doing it out of the goodness of her heart - she's just trying to isolate Kodaka. Her interactions with Yukimura are motivated from that as well

>“CUT THIS SHIT OUT! ARE YOU AN IDIOT OR SOMETHING?! DO YOU THINK IF YOU KEEP RUNNING AWAY FROM THINGS TIME AFTER TIME THAT HAPPINESS WILL JUST SOMEHOW FALL INTO YOUR LAP?! ONLY BEING JEALOUS ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE AND RESENTING REALITY, BUT NEVER DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT YOURSELF! HELL IF I CARE ANYMORE! IF YOU’RE GOING TO JUST BE LIKE A DOG WITH ITS TAIL BETWEEN ITS LEGS AND CHOOSE TO GO ON A JOURNEY ON YOUR OWN, WHY DON’T YOU JUST CHOOSE TO DIE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD LIKE AN IDIOT AS WELL, YOU IDIOT!”

>>102280933
I just can't do it anon. I can't get my hopes up now, I'm too certain already. I can't open my heart only to let it get crushed.
All I can hope for is they give her the time she deserves like they did with Rika.

>“I love you. I want to do various things with you together, various things like d-dirty things with you. I want to do.”

>“Dirty…?!”

>Sena’s face turned bright red.

>While my face was also burning up I continued:

>“Like those games you are always playing… I want to do s-sexual things like that! A lot! Whenever I see you it turns me on incredibly. Ever since I first met you that’s how it’s always been. Since the time I first stayed over at your house, when I accidentally saw your naked body, that was incredibly dangerous, you know? If I hadn’t been able to control myself while laying in the same bed as your old man, I don’t what could have happened!”

>“W-W-W-W-W-What are you trying to say, dummy!”

>Remembering what happened at that time, Sena was on the verge of tears.

>“When everyone went to the beach for the training camp as well, I accidentally saw your breasts again. That time I saw them a considerable amount of times. Your breasts… Your boobs are the best! I want to see them over and over again!”

>“GO DIE!”

>I didn’t really understand why Sena was no longer behaving as if she were embarrassed but was now angry at me, but I kept pushing forward:

>“I’ve always wanted to do as I liked with your breasts! Right now as well I honestly want to touch them and squeeze them and bury my face in them! Not just your boobs either, I want to touch your legs and butt as well! I want to kiss you as well! If we became lovers, I would be able to do things like that as much as I wanted to! Amazing!”

>>102283175
Don't get me wrong, I'd totally agree with you if "Haganai" stood for "I Can't Believe My Long Lost Childhood Friend Is This Cute." As it is, Yozora is anything but a unquestionable love interest for the main character.

Sena is a rich asshole that's loved by boys(who she treats like slaves) because half japanese blue eyed blondie with big breasts and is hated by all the girls for the same reason so she has no friends. Social retard but for different reasons than Yozora.

Yozora is a social retard who seems to be in a permanent bad mood and has a massive superiority complex.

They're both terrible and the other girls in the series really aren't any better.

>>102283228
To me, that isn't a good reason, but I guess for others it might be.

>>102283446
You're oversimplifying their character and are just glossing over some of their designs while ignoring development. I don't want to go into a long debate, so I'll just disagree and won't comment further.

>>102283661
But the only person she is usually mean to is Sena and at times Maria in a must-discipline-this-child way. She likes Kodaka and treats him warningly and with affection when they're alone and only mildly apathetic in a tsundere-like way when together with other club members. She got along with Rika fine for the most part. She is nice to Kobato, and as of now really great towards her after clearing Kobato's route.

>>102275316
Well one thing interesting I heard from the recent volume was the contrast between Rika and Yukimura. Rika thought everyone in the club as a friend. Even Sena despite her jealousy and Yozora despite her fuck ups. While Yukimura just straight out tells everyone that she never thought of anyone in the club as a friend and proceeds to make friends elsewhere.

I'd kinda like to see a certain kind of coming-of-age story composed of separate branches of development for each characters, but I am probably expecting too much from an LN.

Clearly open palm smacking a child repeatedly or having her run around a school naked to teach them discipline is right. Or saying quite vulgar/rude things about others in front of children because of your own insecurities?

>>102287095
Kirino/Yozora:>de facto main girl>girl whom the character has the strongest bond with>gets fan backlash because of her personality>gets the spotlight stolen by another character with bigger popularity

Kuroneko/Sena:>secondary character>gets more relevant thanks to fan popularity>makes a move on the protagonist at a fairly early point in the story

It doesn't take a genius to see how similar the stories are. Concering the ending, all that remains to be seen is if Haganai's author has the balls to kick Ms. Popular to the sidelines in favor of the main girl like Oreimo's did

>>102287195>the series is moving toward a yozora end is obvious
How so? Yozora had shit for development in that regard so far and not even a whole new volume for her could change that. All the while Sena has been treated through and through as Kodaka's main love interest if he ever had one anyway.

So when you say Yozora end, I imagine her killing herself because Kodaka married Sena.

>>102287426>Kirino>>gets fan backlash because of her personality
Nobody cares what the West thinks though. >gets the spotlight stolen by another character with bigger popularity
Now you're just talking out your ass.

>>102287426>girl whom the character has the strongest bond with
Stopped reading here. If you think their bond is in anyway comparable to what Kirino and Kyousuke had you're insane. There's absolutely nothing even remotely romantic between then.

>>102288356
I understand you're trying to compare Yozora's situation with Kirino's, but there are stronger differences between them than there as similarities. The nature of Kodaka/Yozora relationship is completely different than that from Kyousuke/Kirino, even if they're both main characters.

>>102288379>How is she not?
Can you even give one example were that is more evident on her over Sena rather than just say she's the main girl and leave it at that like it meant anything? Seriously, I'm willing to change my mind if you can.

>>102288533>Can you even give one example were that is more evident on her over Sena rather than just say she's the main girl and leave it at that like it meant anything?
Tell me why you think Sena is the main love interest, so I know what kind of examples you are expecting.

>>102288766
But I already did. Whenever their relationship is brought up, it's always romantic in nature. That's their story right from the beginning of their lives. Kodaka's relationship with Yozora, on the other hand, has the opposite background. They are first and foremost friends, and whenever something is said about them it's always on that development, even if Yozora seems to be unsure and showed many signs of wanting more than that.

I do think that Yozora's going to win, because they have the look of the 'main couple' to them. It's like Infinite Stratos, where Houki constantly seems to have the lead despite being a shit, and Ore No Imouto, where Kirino was constantly in the lead despite being - You guessed it - a shit.

Sena's superior, however. How could you resist the gorgeous, voluptuous blonde who's into otaku culture? HOW IS HE NOT HITTING THAT?

I mean, as a guy, if a girl tells me she loves me, I'm going to be flattered. It's so rare NOT to have to jump through hoops, I'll go for the girl who's head-over-heels for me instead of the girl who's ambivalent. (I'll compare it to Suzuka by Kouji Seo, where it became painfully obvious that EVERY other girl beside the heroine was better for the protagonist.)

>>102288959>Whenever their relationship is brought up, it's always romantic in nature. That's their story right from the beginning of their lives.
That's not an example. And it would certainly apply to Yozora as well. If you don't see that Yozora has more feelings for Kodaka than friends, you are intentionally ignoring her development.

>>102289440>being engaged is not an example
I'll ask you to reread the novels then if you don't accept my word.

>If you don't see that Yozora has more feelings for Kodaka than friends
You probably missed the last sentence on my post.

>you are intentionally ignoring her development
Except there is no development. Yozora is ambiguous and unsure of herself. She has no idea what a friend is yet, and mixes an idealized image of Kodaka with all her confused feelings. Until she gets an actual development, there's nothing pointing her in the direction of a real love interest, contrary to Sena who's been one since always.

>>102290091
You make it sound like she even knew what she was doing when she "asked" him to fuck. That's not comparable to Sena and Kodaka's backstory at all. A closer parallel would be Sena herlsef asking Kodaka about their engagement, which was far more explicit and valid.