learn programming as a hobby in high schoolknow a business consultant who introduces you to small businesses and other consultantsmake $30/hr starting out as a freelance web/app developer with no degreeplanning to advance to $50/hr by the end of the yearGet on my level, which is really not all that impressive of a level because web development is easy as shit. Only real obstacle is finding clients.

I just got a stable job (50k/year) doing exactly what I want to do, but, I had to basically sink all of my wealth (80%) into a home (no rental joints out in the bush). It may end up costing me in the end, but, eh, if I stick around for 10 years and get a few raises, it will be worth it. I still have 50 grand and my wife got a job making about 30 a year, but, I hate sinking that much into a fuckin home, I feel they're just too volatile and uncertain. But you know, it's not really an investment, it's a place to live and not have to put up with gay landlords or something.

not required to work from sun up to sun down every day of the week all year longqualifications needed: ability to stand up and smileyou also have to get yourself here like every adult in the worldmake 18% more than the MEDIAN Chinese income and 34x the median income of a citizen of BurundiPay no income taxes on the moneyIt's not modern day slavery.

some people have it worse so its okay that you are getting fucked because the dick is smallermuh business owner has all the risk so he deserves a ferrari even though he was born into money and just manages not to completely self destruct his business = success

Guess I just got lucky because I've gotten paid more than that while saving for college and I had no remarkable skills.

less employees making more money > more employees making less money

What? How is fewer employees making a bit more money make up for higher unemployment? Watch the video I linked you retarded poorfag. It's like 4 minutes long, don't be as lazy as you are in your regular life and watch it

Liveable means a person can afford the most basic elements of life in that particular society.

How much should it be?

$15/hr for mcdonalds workers who flip burgers like those black people were protesting about a while back I recall?

Oh yeah maybe you should have built some sort of skillset instead of digging ditches or unloading trucks. That's a job for an illegal immigrant from a poor shithole who can't even speak the language. In all likelihood your family has been here for at least two generations and you're STILL poor?

nigger felon tyrone has been on smoke breaks all night and gets paid the same shit.

if i ask for a pay raise you will fire me and hire another nigger who will steal from you and cause you a massive loss in productivity but you don't care because you suck at running a business and just seek to drive labor costs down even at a loss in productivity.

no matter how poorly you manage the shit though you still show a profit because of how hard you rape the employees and your boss gives you another raise and a parking spot closer to the building.

There's both supply and demand. When supply is high we say the price of something is "cheap" so I can relate that to being "underpaid". At some point it's so low it's not worth it to supply the product. You can't have such an oversupply of labor and expect people to still work.

You don't have to speak the language to press buttons on a machine or dig a ditch you facetious moron.Them lowering the pay on said jobs erodes your bargaining power at other jobs - now you can't go and dig ditches for $20/hr so why would Starbucks offer you more to ensure they're your best option? They won't.

work as an EMToperate an emergency vehiclemake life or death medical decisionsdeal with human garbage on a daily basisget attacked by drug addictsget spit on/pissed on/shat on by drunkscarry joe or jane fatass down 4 flights of stairspaid $11.60 an hour

firefightsers in my city make $71,000 a year startingthere have been 4 fires so far this year

EMS is paid poorly because its a transitory industry, just a stepping stone for people to get their start. But its a transitory industry because its paid poorly. I'm trying to move over to the police myself, talk about a catch-22.

poor peoplegood at cookingdon't make me laugh. anyway, the last thing you would want to do as a poor fucking idiot who is clearly worthless to the world is to own a big restaurant suddenly with a massive debt. fuck you. go learn under someone who is actually good at cooking and make something of yourself first.

what frustrates me is that there people I work with who talk shit about the fast food workers pushing for a $15 wage saying why do they think they deserve that money when we do so much more than them.

Yes we do more than them, and yes we deserve to be paid more than we currently are but why does that mean other workers should be paid less? Point your anger at the people who control the whole pie rather than those who have a couple more crumbs than you.

Besides even if I put my personal feelings on the matter aside, they were out on the streets campaigning for this for YEARS. So far be it from me as a fellow member of labor to say they don't deserve anything they were able to wring from management.

i work with some losers, therefore i know everything about this businesspoor people best in biz how irony is that!

my point said nothing about every cook on the planet making millions of dollars. i said if you were good, people would hand you cash right now to open a place up in any number of growing cities. good doesn't mean you went to school, dummy, it means you have auctioned off dinners or presented at shows and had big shots love your shit consistently. if you want to circumvent this shit, go back to school to become a "good" businessman, work a real job so that you're not poor anymore, and then open up your restaurant.

the same people who complain about minimum wage are the same people who don't live with roommates, have a smartphone with a major mobile service (at&t, t-mobile, etc), have cable tv, and buy other useless shit that drains their paychecks.

i know someone who just bought the new nexus phone and complained about the price. Meanwhile I told him about metropcs being way cheaper ($35 a month), only catch is texts dont go through sometimes and no galaxy/iphone as an option at teh store. He goes "nah, i need my texts"

you need food, you need running water. You even need phonecalls for job interviews and such. "something that requires you to only use 2 thumbs is not important" - forgot which comedian said that

the worst owners ive seen are the ones that try to micro manage the buisness

the best are the ones that just sit at home and count their money

either way they would be more successful/make more if they actually valued their employees, paid to keep good cooks and didnt try to grind them into the dirt

its insane the turnover rate/inefficiency every kitchen deals with instead of just paying people a couple more bucks an hour. they could pay employees more and still make more money but instead they try to minimize labor costs and end up pissing some guy off that walks out the door with $300 worth of meat burning on the grill

but it does mean the protesters are making false claims and simply whining about things that ultimately make no difference to them. the whole joke is that a company, not a real cause, is the reason people are just rambling in the streets about the entire fucking government and economy of a country, rather than solving a problem of one industry/market or another if one exists.

people like this are just consumers of media and a statistic for ad agencies. they will bounce between one subject and another always fantasizing about oppression and privilege in a context that does as much as telling your friends the features of the new iphone.

inefficiencyevery kitcheni'm really struggling with the idea that every poor kid who just got out of school thinks they have a better business strategy than everyone in their field, but just doesn't have the opportunity to execute it.

especially since there are national and global competitions and recruitment efforts just for people in that situation that generally don't turn up much.

you're not a good cook and if you don't like the culture in your industry, fuck off.

that's not unique to restaurants unfortunately, its a frustration in a lot of businesses. I'm the EMS guy from before and I see it constantly in my job. I work for a private agency that does the 911 response in the cities immediately north of NYC. Almost everyone who works for my company (including me) has applied to work as an EMT with the FDNY which does 911s in the city. For me, and for most others, we prefer working in the smaller communities outside of the city as most of us live up here, its significantly more relaxed, and for lack of a better word comfier. But going into the city would be approximately a $4/hr pay increase, and a massive step up in terms of benefits for what is only a slightly harder job.

There's a 2 year waitlist on that job, so every three months when the FDNY has another academy class we lose more of our experienced guys, replaced with raw rookies. If they paid just a few dollars more the amount of defections would drop like a rock, and the level of patient care would skyrocket.

But no, that would cut into my boss' yacht money. His fucking Jag's license plate is out2sea.

it doesnt help when the management is a bunch of white color fuck boys who act like you

instead of taking any kind of constructive criticism they act like they already know the answer in a field they have absolutely no experience in/couldnt perform the job of an employee making a fraction of their salary

No I'm not sure I agree with that, I think the reason its become a government issue is because of inaction from management of those businesses. Its only a matter of time until labor action of that magnitude is going to attract the attention of left leaning politicians who either are genuinely pro-labor or like my governor Andrew Cuomo (excuse my cynicism) see an opportunity to jump in and make a name for themselves once the issue has already been established by the hard work of community organizers and labor leaders.

I'm a pretty pro-labor guy if you couldn't tell, but not exclusively so. I know that jobs only exist when labor management and capital all work together. So now that $15 min/wage is coming to NYC I'll be interested to see what effects it really has, positive and negative. If it does turn out to have been a mistake and many businesses are forced to close I wont be too proud to admit it.

constructive criticismPAY ME MORE IM GOOD WAAAAAA YOU JUST COUNT MONEY ALL DAY WAA REEEEEEEE I HAVE A BETTER IDEA THAN YOU!

if the management is shit then the restaurant is shit. go find a decent one or genuinely talk with your management about making shit better. your behavior is exactly the reason you're being paid and treated like a dog, not the other way around.

it's not about white collar fuckbois, it's about the unfortunate vast majority of people who are assholes, with or without money. if you want respect and a good wage, earn it you fucking dick. it might not be fair but you have a whole lifetime to do something with yourself beyond complaining. if people acted like me and knew what you thought, you wouldn't even have a job.

god forbid the stockholders took a 1% hit so the employees could pay rent though. better to give the manager a $10,000 bonus to tell Jim to clock out 15 minutes earlier every night and save the company $2.50

constructive criticismPAY ME MORE IM GOOD WAAAAAA YOU JUST COUNT MONEY ALL DAY WAA REEEEEEEE I HAVE A BETTER IDEA THAN YOU!when you strawman this hard no one is going to bother reading what you wrote afterwards, I know I didn't

i'm all for the min wage to be reevaluated periodically and openly discussed to be honest. and i think the experiments will go well and lead to higher wages. it's pretty lame that instead of being more flexible and innovative, we just lure immigrants in to take the jobs and/or convince people to make unnecessary sacrifices.

but it won't change their lives much if at all. you shouldn't be an adult working minimum wage in the first place, whether that means you are being undervalued or you are just abusing yourself deliberately.

the people that politicians target and can influence are a small handful compared to campaigns from the companies and organizations looking for a profit on stirring shit up or getting their members higher wages. some politicians just repeat what some of these movement leaders say to seem relevant, but most of the time they are worlds away from these issues.

Just jumping in randomly, but what the fuck? That's literally the crux of American values and entrepreneurship. Telling someone their hard work doesn't mean shit is blasphemous and fucked up. That's exactly why we have fucking NEETs more than ever in history.

We're dealing with a generation where their hard work isn't being accounted for. Hard workers deserve better pay and better benefits; slow workers deserve the set minimum; average workers deserve average pay and benefits.

How are you going to sit there and tell someone their hard wok doesn't matter or count? That's fucked up.

I was actually discussing this point with my father the other day as we were driving through the Bronx. He raised the issue that when he was my age the area we were in used to have tons of factories that employed mainly first generation immigrants from the west indies, and paid only slightly above minimum wage.

Those unskilled labor jobs are all gone, they've been shipped off to third world countries and they're never coming back. The same types of people who used to work those unskilled jobs now work in fast food.

he is management material. probably make it really far with his "stick it to the little guy" attitude and they will let him drive some company into the dirt and bail out with a severance package right before bankruptcy

is treated like cattlecontinues to be a good little employee instead of solving anything

your assumption is that hard work = fast, accurate, reliable work. everyone should be working hard at a certain standard, my point is that working harder doesn't mean that the business suddenly thrives and reinvents the wheel in the industry and needs to pay you in gold mansions to keep you there. most of the time people saying they work hard(er) are just doing needless extra shit or barely maintaining the standard because they are incompetent in the first place.

america relies on resilience and sweat, but i'm talking about an individual who feels entitled to more money and suggesting how he gets to that point. especially in food service and creative fields like it, relationships mean far more than just quantifying your effort into following instructions to your success.

less fuck ups, less food waste, less mess, less cleaning time, faster/better quality of service that nets repeat customers

you wont ever see an extra penny for it though and just expect to do more/harder work for the same pay

my only other work experience was 6 years in the army. don't even get me started... 90% of those fuckers were brain damaged mouth breathers constantly faking injuries and trying to get medical retirements while 10% of people did everyones work for the same pay

the "everyone gets the same" mentality of employers is fucking baffling.

the "everyone gets the same" mentality of employers is fucking baffling.Its basically like local socialism. Socialism implemented on a small scale by legislative fiat. Paying better employees more would be discrimination, after all.

paying people with the same responsibilities the same is bafflingchoosing to do a job clearly meant for brain damaged mouth breathers is not baffling

you sound like a little kid crying for his dads attention. the quality of service and profit at a (real) restaurant depends on the whole team, everybody has very critical tasks and whether you do more than what you are expected to do or not, it's not up to you to decide what you're worth. if your place treats you like shit, and the next one, and the next one, then you are fucking DOG SHIT

imo the biggest issue I have with the raising of min wages, is that it shafts small business. They usually have smaller margins, big companies are usually the ones that don't treat their employees as well. I could be wrong though

realistically your bill would probably only be around $500 for the ambulance ride, and as long as you have insurance it should be covered, have fun with the hospital bill though.

According to my bosses 911 EMS is surprisingly difficult to make much of a profit on because we pick up so many lowlifes who just don't pay, and don't really give a fuck if it fucks their credit. You can't exactly repossess medical care. Much easier to make money on medical transports, like transporting some old lady from the hospital back to her nursing home, because they have to be pre-approved by the insurance so its guaranteed money.

its become a bit of an issue since one of the agencies here in the NY metro area that did 911s for a number of municipalities declared bankruptcy very suddenly, taking dozens of ambulances off the streets with 0 warning or contingency. People died because of it, and the former employees have still not been paid for the last 3 weeks or so of work.

Unions are a fucking joke. A double edged sword really. You get some benefits, raises, and job security out of it, but in exchange you get union dues up the fucking ass, none of your employees can be fired unless they commit a criminal act, and you get the same raises as everybody else regardless of how hard you work. Most industry unions are like this, I'm sure about yours though.

These are people who believe they worked harder and deserve everything more than anyone else does. It's impossible for them to even consider they caught a lucky break or 3 to get where they are. Hence everyone else should have worked as hard as them but didn't,they're too lazy to be successful

A lot of people who have terrible managers do their best to avoid becoming them and send up working freelance just to avoid that sort of bullshit. Working relationships between freelancers working for each other are leaps and bounds better than interdepartmental politics and relationships.

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