The thing you fail to get STILL even after I have explained it to you is they ALREADY get health CARE and we (the workers) ALREADY pay for it, and its insanely expensive.

What you have yet to explain then is where these massive saving are then? I certainly am not seeing them. If you are reducing an insanely expensive cost from the system then we should see a tangible cost benefit for those of us already paying. Yet we aren't.