Writing about Debian is not a simple thing. You know it's the giant that has spawned pretty
much every other distro out there. It's almost like a Roman Empire, almost a taboo.
Furthermore, it's not a desktop distro per se. It's more sort of a template you use to build
your platform. It's also a SOHO server distro, therefore it more fits into the business
category, comparable to CentOS and similar.

"if it has a wired NIC port then it's meant to be plugged in to a wired network. "

Your right.. I missed the qualifier "during install".. What with your entire complain being about wireless support at install time, I kind of assumed you would realize that I was talking about "at install time".

(hey, you started it by throwing the "moron" accusations around before confirming if you understood what I meant. You could simply have asked "do you mean use wired all the time or during install".. )

Again, install over wired nic.. for several reasons.. use your wireless for mobile connectivity after the initial install is done.. not a hard concept to comprehend.. what's making it so hard for you to understand?

You're right, I'm the idiot. I blame myself for reading/posting while half asleep. Not an excuse, just an explanation. This entire article discussion has been full of fail, on my part as well as others, and I think maybe I should just quit now while I'm behind.

Just for clarification, my standing opinion is: Debian now sucks for those of us who strive to use GPL-compliant hardware since even the GPL isn't good enough for them anymore, I loathe the idea of using wired access -- even for installing an OS -- if wifi is available and supposedly supported on my hardware, and I need more sleep before getting all bent out of shape over a post and making a fool of myself.

Fair enough. We all get half asleep into heated posts sometimes. From my perspective, the focused seemed clear but I'm sure I could have worded it better anyhow.

In terms of wifi. I do like it for convenience but it's always slower than a wire. My installs tend to be scripted from a VM hosted development model also. Having the machine tied to a workbench with a wire isn't a bid issue. Especially since bare metal installs shouldn't be a regularily repeated thing; fourty minutes on a wire is nothing compared to the majority of it's operational life on wifi after.

If the wireless works for one's install, more power to them. If it doesn't, just plug in a wire and get on with the install. What is interesting is what one does with the machine after install not how the OS got on the machine in the first place.