YodaBlues:weave: Meh, I have them both (Verizon on new iPad, AT&T on my iPhone 5) and I find them pretty even.

The one difference that really pissed me off about Verizon on iPad is, they don't allow one to buy international travel on it unless you are also a regular contract customer -- ie, not just buying data on the device.

With my older AT&T iPad if I went overseas I could just pre-buy a bucket of data to use on it.

Don't believe that? Go into a Verizon iPad with cellular and try and buy an international data package.

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Because Verizon uses cdma, which is pretty much US only. the rest of world uses gsm. your Verizon iPad lacks the necessary radio for overseas use.

Well...not so much. There are many countries which use CDMA (1Xrtt and EV-DO; (Rev 0 and Rev A) ). Actually, more than 80 of them support CDMA in some flavor or frequency.

TonyDanza:Animatronik: its hard to understand phone snobbery, if the other phones were crap, logically no one would buy them,

I would say most people that have a preference don't honestly believe the "other" phone is crap, it's just not really as good as their choice, and tbh, for some people the reasons they have to like "their" phone can be totally legit, and for them "their" phone actually may be better. I personally go with Android, and will never get an iPhone as long as you have no option to throw in more memory, or be able to swap a battery when needed.

because smartphones have been around for years now and ppl arent that stupid.

Errr...yeah, they are.

I don't think so, not when it comes to high end smartphones. Both Apple and the various Android phone and tablet makers are putting out good hardware. I just prefer Android and went with an Android tablet too over iPad Mini, which is also very nice.

I can see from the "Stopped reading right there" comments that the local droid users missed the best quote in the article:

"Most Android users never caught on (to their phones not using real LTE), as after all it's merely a platform for those geeks whose whose sense of self worth revolves around hating Apple, and those mainstream buyers who don't have the any clue what they're buying."

Surool:I can see from the "Stopped reading right there" comments that the local droid users missed the best quote in the article:

"Most Android users never caught on (to their phones not using real LTE), as after all it's merely a platform for those geeks whose whose sense of self worth revolves around hating Apple, and those mainstream buyers who don't have the any clue what they're buying."

nailed it

Nope. Some folks like me use Android because they like it better,and would use iOS if it were the only game in town. iOS is Ok, I used to havea Touch and Im not an Apple hater.

/the point being that someone is better painted with his own brush,if his sense of self worth requires that he defend his favorite company in such a manner...

Animatronik:Surool: I can see from the "Stopped reading right there" comments that the local droid users missed the best quote in the article:

"Most Android users never caught on (to their phones not using real LTE), as after all it's merely a platform for those geeks whose whose sense of self worth revolves around hating Apple, and those mainstream buyers who don't have the any clue what they're buying."

nailed it

Nope. Some folks like me use Android because they like it better,and would use iOS if it were the only game in town. iOS is Ok, I used to havea Touch and Im not an Apple hater.

/the point being that someone is better painted with his own brush,if his sense of self worth requires that he defend his favorite company in such a manner...

Weird, because I've seen days of non-stop Apple attacks and Android phone spec circle jerks on a fairly regular basis. I've used the same phone for 3.5 years, it runs the most current OS and has yet to fail me in any way... but Apple!Nice of you to jump in as the alleged reasonable droid user, but seriously.

Surool:I can see from the "Stopped reading right there" comments that the local droid users missed the best quote in the article:

"Most Android users never caught on (to their phones not using real LTE), as after all it's merely a platform for those geeks whose whose sense of self worth revolves around hating Apple, and those mainstream buyers who don't have the any clue what they're buying."

Surool:Weird, because I've seen days of non-stop Apple attacks and Android phone spec circle jerks on a fairly regular basis. I've used the same phone for 3.5 years, it runs the most current OS and has yet to fail me in any way... but Apple!Nice of you to jump in as the alleged reasonable droid user, but seriously.

There have been four articles in a week posted from a magazine that claims with a straight face that iPhone had the first LTE. But you're right, the toxic anti-Apple culture is clear.

I'll overlook the rabid iPhone love, since there's just no convincing some people, but the stuff about 4G LTE made my brain hurt. I know AT&T has "faux G" as the author described, but a simple speed test would show you that Verizon's 4G LTE is wicked fast. I consistently get 18 Mbps to 35 Mbps, and have since my first 4G phone (Galaxy Nexus).

The idea that people use Android purely out of spite or stupidity...is an idea that itself is rooted in spite or stupidity.

Android is good and so is iOS. For me, Android is better. For one thing, I can get an Android device to do whatever I want, and for another I don't have to use iTunes except when I helping my son with his iPod Touch, 4th gen.

iTunes is a horrible program. It was originally designed to lock the user into the Apple media experience and deny access to music from non-Apple sources, and to prevent the device from being used with any media not in an Apple format. Which is why it is 10X larger than it needs to be and always getting patched (until recently) into somethingg bigger and uglier.

I think Apple gradually woke up and realized that restricting the experience was costing them customers, but its still a problem.

On Android, I can see everything on the device and organize it any way I want. This is daunting to some users. Those users may be better off with a more restricted experience. They can get everything they need and then some from an iPhone.

Some things like Pandora are indistinguishable for any phone/device (I'm typing this on an Android tablet while listening to Pandora and using a BT keyboard designed to work with an iPad). In other words, for me, there simply is no advantage to owning an iphone or iPad and several big drawbacks.

kyuzokai:I'll overlook the rabid iPhone love, since there's just no convincing some people, but the stuff about 4G LTE made my brain hurt. I know AT&T has "faux G" as the author described, but a simple speed test would show you that Verizon's 4G LTE is wicked fast. I consistently get 18 Mbps to 35 Mbps, and have since my first 4G phone (Galaxy Nexus).

The funny part about that comment is that it is the opposite of what actually happened for Verizon. When Verizon first introduced the iPhone 4, it was a 3G PHONE. So shortly after that, you could get a contract with 4G for several droid phones but not the iPhone on Verizon.

Eventually, a 4G iPhone was introduced, but the idea that there was some innovation by Apple that change the 4G scene seems silly on the Verizon side.

I get annoyed by android sometimes. I wish that google thought more about how the different applications worked together, instead of (seemingly) allowing every single application to written by its own isolated team. I wish carriers couldn't load android up with so many bullshiat apps and skins. I wish that manufacturers would pay attention to things like battery life, instead of sticking us with phones that die in under eight hours. I wish that the upgrade path to get old phones on new operating systems was more well-though-out. I wish there was somebody approving the apps, so that I didn't have to worry about installing an app that would send my address book to spammers.

But... this guy is just a douchebag. He's apparently only smug because he hasn't had enough cock punches administered.

Congratulations, douchebag. You bought a phone. Nobody is going to sleep with you for that.

Aldon:There is one thing that has followed me with at&t bill I have ever received (in the last 20+ years). Eventually (sooner than later) they will bill you for something that they shouldn't.

As a 8-year ATT wireless subscriber, I can indeed confirm this BUT, and it's a very big "but," if you call up customer service and, in a calm and collected manner, ask them about it, they'll correct it. I've never known any company to not make mistakes on occasion. I've made mistakes in billing my clients and thus accept the fact that it'll happen at times. So long as the company is willing to fix it when they DO make a mistake, we're golden. Even when it's not a mistake, ATT does a good job of making customers with some semblance of a history happy. After my first contract was up, I got all of my activation fees waived from that point forward. I am grandfathered in on unlimited data, have no throttling issues, and even had my pro-rated charges comped when we switched from iPhones to S-3s just after Thanksgiving and added a line and unlimited text and mobile to mobile. I've never had anyone on the ATT side of things tell me "no" or snub me. They've always taken care of me and valued me as a customer. I can't say that for Verizon (non-wireless) with horrible India-based customer service for DSL and home phone.

I think it's all anecdotal in the end. Some people just have better experiences than others with their carries. They're probably all about the same in reality, people in this nation just like to rabidly cheer for one team over another.

So in summary: The best wireless provider for you to choose is the one that has the best signal strength/reliability in the areas you frequent most.

Aaaaaand if that carrier is AT&T (which it is by a significant margin at my home and workplace, where Verizon sucks) then your argument is invalid.

This article says nothing about AT&T vs. Verizon other than that in the parts of LA she inhabits the Verizon network is better. Big surprise, this is not necessarily true in every single square mile of the rest of the country.

Droog8912:avalanche: FTFA: sorry Android users, your iPhone ripoffs are still stuck in 2009 and you got played by the salesgeek

Stopped reading right there.

Same. I installed a FF addon (BlockSite) specifically to stop giving any traffic to the Examiner after the non-stop links from there. The rampant douchebaggery in that article got me to add a second website. Congratulations on the trolling, I guess.

Good call on BlockSite. Just installed it myself because of douchey blogs like this. BuzzFeed might be next on my list.