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About the Bibi-Obama meeting: what really happened, what was shown to the public, from Barry Ch., and from the Huffington Post- both good articles. Also , some comments YOU made: will Bibi attack, or not? Seems he will need US to tell him what to do!

FRIENDLESS PERSUASION - BARAK MEETS BIBI by Barry Chamish

Here is a short overview of the Netanyahu-Obama press conference from someone who has attended other such rigged Presidential events in Israel. We begin in 1978 at the press conference of Prime Minister Begin and Vice President Walter Mondale outside Begin's office in Jerusalem. Back then, the "sophisticated" rigging hadn't begun in earnest and I got to ask Mondale a question. Anwar Sadat had visited Jerusalem the year before and I had followed his tour as a press aide for John Keesler of the Miami Sun. Since then, President Carter made sure that Sadat got everything he demanded and Israel got nothing physical in return. Now back then I didn't know the game was fixed or that Carter was a member of the Council On Foreign Relations (CFR) or that Mondale was not only a CFR member but also a founding partner of the new sister organization The Tri-Lateral Commission. If I had only known I would have framed my question differently. What I saw was an ever-smiling dope who clearly despised Begin, but portrayed himself as the friendly uncle here for a visit with his good pal, the leader of Israel. That, I saw through and asked him, "Are you more sympathetic to the Israeli or Egyptian negotiating position?" or words to that exact effect. Wally dropped his smile, and answered the inexperienced reporter, as if dismissing him outright, "We don't take sides. We are objective." Yeah, sure you were. Within a year Israel had signed away every inch of the Sinai and received a "peace" treaty abrogated by Egypt in half a generation. Today, Egypt doesn't have to risk its soldiers fighting Israel; it just supplies Hamas with Sinai-smuggled weapons and lets them do the dirty work. But to understand what Netanyahu had to endure in his conference with Obama, we must go to Yitzhak Rabin's joint press conference in Jerusalem with Pres. Bill Clinton of the CFR. As fate would playfully have it, I made friends at the event with a Canadian Christian journalist, who lived in Samaria, recently departed, Grant Livingstone. After the horrific conference was over, he drove me home and thereafter became a close confident and supporter of my work. Grant overcame the odds and triumphed before Clinton and the world. The Oslo "peace" Accord was signed the year before and Rabin, without exaggeration, was thoroughly hated by a majority of his people. And that would have to be hidden at all costs. This press conference was staged to remove all signs of Israeli opposition to Rabin, Clinton and Oslo. I sat in the second row, one row back and two away from Secretary of State Warren Christopher (CFR). I looked at his otherworldly face, noticed his ghastly wingtip shoes, and determined he was an alien from a far off galaxy. Of course, that was my imagination. Only much later did we determine that it was true. As Rabin and Clinton entered the room, not one Israeli got off his chair, but the entire White House press corps rose to their feet and gave them both an extended and phoney standing ovation, as they must have been instructed to do. These clowns were pre-chosen to be the "reporters" for Clinton's trip. There were two mikes set up for reporters and I saw two Israel tv hacks stand behind each one. I got the message and stood behind one, second in line behind tv "reporter" Emmanuel Halperin. Grant saw what I did and got up to be third in line. My question would be about the Syrian diplomatic process, and Grant wouldn't tell me what he was planning to ask. So while Clinton and Rabin read their prepared statements, I edited my question to the basics on, as I recall, a found napkin. Then the press questions began and not one was aimed at the open mikes. Instead, Clinton would point at a reporter, name him, and take the "unexpected" questions. "Yes Mary, do you have a question?" he asked. And the tiny old hag asked, "Yes, Mr. President. How would you characterize your trip so far?" And that was the toughest question he fielded all night. I drifted off as the endless session continued. "Helen Thomas here. Mr. President, how did you sleep last night," I imagined in the blur of trivia. Rabin was asked one, maybe two questions but I caught what I thought was obvious to everyone. He was drunk. His feet swaggered, he slurred his words, and he held onto the podium for balance. It was a highly disturbing sight. And though it WAS noticed after, no one wrote a word of upsetting journalism about Rabin's drunken performance. Clinton's arm must have been worn out from fielding marshmallows because finally, he agreed to accept questions from the mike. At the opposite mike, an Israeli reporter threw Rabin a softball. After his longwinded inebriated reply, the conference host announced that the next question would be the last. I turned to Grant and said, "We've been set up." He pushed Halperin away and asked Clinton, " As a Christian, aren't you afraid of the final price you'll pay for forcing Israel to cede land to murderers?" Silence, followed by a shocked murmur that spread through the White House "reporters!" Clinton's face turned crimson. Hesitating, he started to answer just as the host announced that the press conference was over. Grant unrigged the show. The whole nation was watching the conference and as we walked to his car people recognized him, congratulated him and actually applauded him. And not a word was written about the man nor the question that blew apart the choreographed press fiasco of Oslo, Rabin and Clinton. The Obama-Netanyahu conference was even more staged than this. The room was small, the reporters handpicked and left standing for the cameras, for whatever psychological advantage there is in that. Netanyahu and Obama sat in a one on one "friendly" discussion. Netanyahu was clearly previously threatened and his face was ashen, but Obama was not in a nice mood either. He wanted to start on giving away the ship to the Palestinians, while Netanyahu desired an Iran first diplomacy. But, he reiterated, Israel will not surprise America with an attack. Like it could. To get to Iran, Israeli planes would have to overfly American-held Iraq, or America's ally Saudi Arabia, at which point it would find itself in a dogfight with the American Air Force. Big concession. They both stared each other down as each spoke and they found excuses to be in agreement on anything available. But they fooled no one. It's endgame for Israel time and Netanyahu tried to delay Obama's final diplomacy. But so did Begin, and Carter forced him to betray his ideals. But so did Rabin, and Clinton got him to betray Israel's basic security. Now it's Netanyahu's turn and give it time, Obama will make him betray his country or Israel is doomed to be friendless in this world. That was the not so rigged message of the Obama-Netanyahu choreographed press conference.

The New York Times assigned to the story a campaign-trail reporter, Sheryl Gay Stolberg, whose political perceptions are bland and whose knowledge of Israeli-American relations is an antiseptic zero. At the newspaper of record, a thing like that does not happen by accident. They took the most anxiously awaited meeting with a foreign leader of President Obama's term thus far, and buried it on page 12. The coverage of a major event, which the same newspaper had greeted only the day before by running an oversize attack-Iran op-ed by Jeffrey Goldberg, has officially now shrunk to the scale of a smaller op-ed.

What is more disturbing and far more consequential is that the Times made this meeting into a story about Iran. They read into Obama's careful and measured remarks exactly the hostile intention toward Iran and the explicit deadline for results from his negotiations with Iran that Obama had taken great pains to avoid stating. Obama's relevant remark was this:

My expectation would be that if we can begin discussions soon, shortly after the Iranian elections, we should have a fairly good sense by the end of the year as to whether they are moving in the right direction and whether the parties involved are making progress and that there's a good faith effort to resolve differences. That doesn't mean every issue would be resolved by that point, but it does mean that we'll probably be able to gauge and do a reassessment by the end of the year of this approach.

"Shortly after," "fairly good sense," "the right direction," "good faith effort," "probably," "by the end of the year." This was a language chosen deliberately to cool the fever of Netanyahu and his far-right War Coalition in Israel. But Stolberg, writing for the Times, converts these hedged and vague suggestions into a revelation that Obama for the first time seemed "willing to set even a general timetable for progress in talks with Iran."

In fact, as any reader of the transcript may judge, President Obama sounded a more urgent note about the progress Israel ought to make in yielding what it long has promised to the Palestinian people. Palestine was the proper name that dominated Obama's side of the news conference. In the Times story, by contrast, the word Iran occurs three times before the first mention of "Palestinians." Iran is mentioned twice more before the words West Bank are uttered once.

Regarding the necessity of a Palestinian state, President Obama was explicit:

We have seen progress stalled on this front, and I suggested to the Prime Minister that he has an historic opportunity to get a serious movement on this issue during his tenure.

And when Netanyahu said the Israeli attitude toward Palestine would completely depend on the details of progress toward securing Iran against the acquisition of a single nuclear weapon, Obama replied that his view was almost the reverse. In a leader as averse as Barack Obama to the slightest public hint of personal conflict, this was a critical moment in the exchange; how far, a reporter asked Obama, did he assent to the Netanyahu concept of "linkage" -- the idea that first the U.S. must deal with Iran, and a more obliging Israeli approach to Palestine will surely follow. Obama answered:

I recognize Israel's legitimate concerns about the possibility of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon when they have a president who has in the past said that Israel should not exist. That would give any leader of any country pause. Having said that, if there is a linkage between Iran and the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, I personally believe it actually runs the other way. To the extent that we can make peace with the Palestinians -- between the Palestinians and the Israelis -- then I actually think it strengthens our hand in the international community in dealing with a potential Iranian threat.

This was a reluctantly formulated but direct and inescapable inversion of the Netanyahu doctrine on linkage. Not a trace of it appears in the Times account.

Finally, Gaza was much in President Obama's mind and on his conscience at this meeting; so much so that he broke decorum and stepped out of his way to mention it:

The fact is, is that if the people of Gaza have no hope, if they can't even get clean water at this point, if the border closures are so tight that it is impossible for reconstruction and humanitarian efforts to take place, then that is not going to be a recipe for Israel's long-term security or a constructive peace track to move forward.

And yet not a word from Stolberg and the Times about these words of Obama's on Gaza. Nor was any analytic piece offered as a supplement -- the usual procedure in assessing an event of this importance.

To sum up, what happened at the meeting can be judged plainly enough by the news conference that followed. Binyamin Netanyahu tried to make it all about Iran. Obama declined, and spoke again and again about the importance of peace in the entire region, and the crucial role that Israel would have to play by freezing the West Bank settlements and negotiating in good faith to achieve a Palestinian state.

Let us end where we began, with Barack Obama on the good of peaceable relations with Iran, and the New York Times on the importance of thinking such relations are close to impossible.

President Obama: "You know, I don't want to set an artificial deadline."

Now the Times headline: "Obama Tells Netanyahu He Has a Timetable on Iran." And the Times front-page teaser for their A12 story: "Obama's Iran Timetable."

The decision-makers at the New York Times are acting again as if their readers had no other means of checking the facts they report. They are saying the thing that is not, without remembering that the record which refutes them has become easily and quickly available. A great newspaper is dying. And on the subject of Israel, it is doing its best to earn its death-warrant.

Finally:

Responses to the question whether you think Bibi will attack Iran or not:

First came Barry, who said:

Israel will NEVER attack Iran. You have to overfly Iraq or Saudi Arabia and confront the American Air Force for that. Barry

Then Herb said:

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Since Israel no longer has pride or spine, when Iran says "drop dead", we beg for their permission to get a little bit sick.

Guess what? "Permission Denied!"

Herb Sunshine

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And Zerach commented:

That thought was on the news. CNN of all channels (anderson cooper).. BUT, in a different context. It is the fallout for american soldiers that the US is worried about if it allows Israel to fly thru that airspace. Even the sypathizers will be gunning and kidnapping US soldiers.

Israel is afraid of the US. Their skills are as good or better than the US. They would and could find a way.

Being the distance to travel is so far israel would need a lot of multi-national logistical support to accomplish this one.

The best answer would be a US direct strike. Clean, swift, and close enough to strike like a springing snake.

Todays space based Radar would make it a greater chance for Israeli planes to travel that distance being detected.

Rabbi Dov said:

There are missiles!!

Israel also may send the aircraft thru the red sea

Dov

SHmuel said:

I agree with BC but not for those reasons.

There is absolutely no need to come in dirty over either one of those places and the IDF can do that.

Besides the US air force is preponderantly sea carrier based and those carriers, three in fact reside within the Gulf and rotate positions. The aircraft are certainly fast and agile but the carriers lack that... ;) They are sitting ducks for a good military assets manager. Aegis or not, the dudes are slow and big.

If the boys scramble against the IDF they may find themselves with no place to go back to...

Iraqi bases are not able to handle new military aircraft but they do pose a bit of a 10 minutes problem.

Surprisingly the Saudis are good pilots but hopelessly behind on air combat savvy.

ABOVE ALL

Israel must NOT attack Iranian hardened positions but go for the soft underbelly.

The nuclear reactor and centrifuges on themselves are just big duds unable to go anywhere else any time soon.

Attacking them would show that Barak only wants an excuse for failure and not to destroy Iran's dangers.

("we did our best, but...)

Israel to win must attack oil distilleries, water carriers, bridges, ports and ships, airports and craft in the ground, telecommunications. Military staging areas, military factories, rocket locations and stock, etc.

If they do not climb down, then blow up with Jericho's the processing plants and not the reactor.

Absolutely no need to do that unless...

Israel will not do that though due to lack of real military leadership. Period.

SHmuel

and nik commented:

especially since amer and isr. have been working together with iran to spread islamic fund. via iran because it keeps the opium/heroin manuf. plants in iran open and working... ever since iran-contra the sabatean-jewish gov't has been helping amer make iran a threat to israel and the world... and forget about amer they are so in bed with iran it would take a forklift to dislodge the two of them... sad but true... nik. out...

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I will bless them that bless thee, and curse them that curse thee...ואברכה מברכיך ומקללך אאר ונברכו בך כל משפחת האדמה

Am Yisrael wants the Temple rebuilt!

A survey conducted by the Panels Insitute revealed that 64 % of the Israeli public , and half of secular Israelis, want the Temple rebuilt. 97% of respondents know that the Temple was destroyed on Tisha B'Av ( Ninth of Av).

The survey's second question queried the public’s desire to rebuild the Temple. Sixty-four percent responded favorably and 36 percent said no. Analysis of the answers revealed that not only hareidi-religious and other religious Jews want to rebuild the Temple, (100 percent and 97 percent respectively), but also the traditional public (91 percent) and many secular Jews (47 percent) do as well.

Just a reminder to our many enemies, specially 'you know who' (below ), from Isaiah the Prophet:

Isaiah 49:24-26

"Can prey be taken back from a strong one; can the righteous captive escape?

But thus said Hashem: Even the captive of the strong can be taken back, and the prey of the mighty can escape; I, Myself, will take up your cause, and I, MYSELF, WILL SAVE YOUR CHILDREN.

And I will feed your oppressors their own flesh, and as with sweet wine shall they become drunk; then all flesh shall know that I am Hashem, your Savior and your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Israel."

Words of wisdom: what to do to save lives and preserve freedom of the Jewish People in Israel:

... Coming from a traditionally very passive and peaceful sector, United Torah Judaism:

"There was no reason for [the mother] to be in jail... Now we all understand that these things can be stopped by burning garbage and ripping out traffic lights”

MK Meir Porush, UTJ - about the riots in Jerusalem

A word of wisdom...coming from what was once the Land of the Free...

"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."Samuel Adams, American Revolutionary

Very appropriate quote , although more than a century old.

"There are laws to protect the freedom of the press's speech,

but none that are worth anything to protect the people from the press."

--Mark Twain

... And more truths about truth:

"A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.

To make them love it is the task assigned, in present-day totalitarian states, to ministries of propaganda, newspaper editors and schoolteachers.... The greatest triumphs of propaganda have been accomplished, not by doing something, but by refraining from doing.

Great is truth, but still greater, from a practical point of view, is silence about truth."

"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."Dresden James.

We live in times of unprecedented dangers, therefore,

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."Edmund Burke

"Nobody made a greater mistake than he who did nothing, because he could only do a little."

Edmund Burke

PICTORIAL REVIEW OF WHAT REALLY HAPPENED IN GUSH KATIF

Here below, you will be able to see for yourselves what REALLY happened during the Gush Katif expulsion; how the GOOD JEWS of ISRAEL were BETRAYED by their so-called leaders.

Link provided by Barry Chamish.

Now you understand whom we are dealing with in this country: TRAITORS. They pretend to have the nation's best interests at heart, but this is all a mirage, a lie; either they are self-serving, or THEY WORK FOR THE ENEMY, and they cannot be trusted.

Only TRUE and FAITHFUL LEADERSHIP will get us out of this morass; AND G-D'S INFINITE MERCY, B"H.

We are waiting for Mashiach to come and rescue us; meanwhile, we do what we can to HELP THE GEULAH.

Gush Katif Betrayal, "MERAGLIM 1"

Gush Katif Betrayal, "MERAGLIM 2"

Gush Katif Betrayal, "MERAGLIM 3"

Gush Katif Betrayal, "MERAGLIM 4"

QUOTES BY THE ENEMY, AND ABOUT THE ENEMY'S TACTICS

Here below are quotes related to the enemy's nature, tactics and philosophy.

Always remember: LEARN FROM YOUR ENEMY, EMULATE HIM, but for the FORCES OF GOOD!

Whenever he does A, do A, in reverse.

He does B, do B, in reverse.

We might not have his financial resources or capabilities, but we have a much greater ally: HASHEM.

Remember David and Goliath. We are David, and with God's help, we can defeat Goliath. All we have to do is UNMASK THE EVIL GIANT, UNMASK HIS TACTICS, UNDERSTAND HIS DECEPTIONS, AND EXPOSE THEM TO THE BRIGHT LIGHT OF DAY.

AND PRAY TO GOD FOR HELP.

AND ALWAYS, ONLY STRIVE TO DO GOOD,

SO THAT WE CAN BE A FORCE OF GOOD AGAINST THESE MESSENGERS OF DARKNESS.

"PROPAGANDA CANNOT TAKE TIME OFF"

"Propaganda cannot take time off"

... one of the key rules ofmodern disinformation, which is that the required message must be repeated very frequently if it is to pass...

THE STATE IS THE ENEMY!

"You had to attack civilians, the people, women, children, innocent people, unknown people far removed from any political game. The reason was quite simple. They were supposed to force these people, the ... public, to turn to the state to ask for greater security.

This is the political logic which remains behind all the massacres and the bombings which remain unpunished, because the state cannot convict itself or declare itself responsible for what happened."

OBAMA THE MUSLIM

THE DARK SIDE OF THE U.S.A.: AS IN SERBIA, SO IN YESHA...

... in 1998, the US State Department and intelligence agencies decided to use the Kosovo Liberation Army to get rid of Slobodan Miloševic. "The US agenda was clear. When the time was right they were going to use the KLA to provide the solution to the political problem" – the "problem" being, as Marshall explains earlier, Miloševic’s continued political survival. This meant supporting the KLA’s terrorist secessionism, and later fighting a war against Yugoslavia on its side. Marshall quotes Mark Kirk, a US naval intelligence officer, saying that, "Eventually we opened up a huge operation against Miloševic, both secret and open." The secret part of the operation involved not only things like stuffing the various observer missions which were sent into Kosovo with officers from the British and American intelligence services, but also – crucially – giving military, technical, financial, logistical and political support to the KLA, which, as Marshall himself admits, "smuggled drugs, ran prostitution rackets and murdered civilians.""Bags of money had been brought in for years....Organisations controlled by George Soros also played a crucial role, as they were later to do, in 2003–4, in Georgia....The so-called "democrats" were, in reality, nothing but foreign agents."

Tim Marshall, Sky TV

MAKE SURE TO WATCH THE PPS"Will there soon be an anti-Jewish genocide in Israel?"

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I am a Jew living in the Land of Judea (Eretz Yehuda), which was given to us, the Jewish people, by G-D Himself. I love this place very much; I will do my best to develop it, cherish it, protect it, turn it into the paradise it was always meant to be - and defend it against any and all enemies of Am Yisrael.