Derek and Monica had the honor of meeting Dr. Anne Innis Dagg. Dr. Dagg is an inspiration, especially to women zoologists, having pioneered the way for so many to follow. She conducted some of the first-ever research on giraffe in the 1960s and has continued over the past 50 years to be a champion for giraffe and for women in science. She mentioned Wild Nature Institute's demography research in her 2014 book Giraffe: Biology, Behaviour, and Conservation.