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09-07-2012 07:40 PM

spittle8

I saved money by dumping the service package. Everyone said that was a ripoff, so I still saved half a grand, and nobody at the dealership got in trouble. I'm happy.

09-07-2012 02:17 AM

Nik00117

I'd have held firm to the original offer.

09-06-2012 09:50 PM

spittle8

I ended up paying $500 more for the car, but I removed the service plan from the contract so I walked away with $500 less on the loan. I could have saved a few hundred if I'd hunted for the right price at a number of dealers I think, but it's not a major deal, and I everyone walks away happy. Glad that it ended pleasantly without the salesman getting screwed, he was a class act the whole way.

09-05-2012 12:27 AM

Nik00117

Me too I think you'll be fine stick to your guns.

09-04-2012 11:36 PM

rangerbay

Quote:

Originally Posted by spittle8

Oh, I don't disagree at all - I dropped the ball and was uncharacteristically uncautious and irresponsible. I let myself be played, but I never lied about my qualifications, I just let myself be convinced it would be simple. My wife & I had just given up on a used car search and she relented to buying new, so I rushed through it all.

Does your Grandma still receive his pension or some of his social security? If so, ther are social security numbers tied to both of those. You can get his SS#. A pension would have his last date of employement.

Good luck. I think you will come out to the good in this one! Just stick to your guns, and dont back down one inch. I was the manager for a huge boat dealership for many years, and I think your ingood shape on this one.

09-04-2012 11:11 PM

spittle8

Quote:

Originally Posted by suss6052

I don't mean to argue, and I don't doubt that your grandfather worked for Ford, but if you and the dealer signed paperwork that turned out to be false because you didn't have the z-plan pin before going to the dealership then the fault lies with both parties. You for not actually ensuring that you had proof of eligibility and the dealer for being in such a rush to sign the paperwork and close another deal where they essentially sold the car at a decent profit + padded the bottom line with extra cost options.

I made sure that when I asked my living grandfather who had retired from Ford many years ago for the pin that I had all my ducks in a row, my drivers license, address, and everything all matched perfectly and I had my pin before I even set foot on a dealer forecourt with the intent to buy/ order a car, with a specific car /configuration in mind.

I did however go in first to check and see if I really liked the color I was thinking of since they did have a similar one in stock. However it was not equipped properly and was too old (it was a Job 1 car from 11-11 or 12-11, where as I wanted a Job 2 car with the full compliment of upgrades, plus it would be fresher.) There were none within a 100 mi radius as far as I could tell that were exactly what I wanted, so I ordered one.

You might be stuck with the car at the price agreed to, and the dealer might have to eat the commission, or you'll have to pay it back, I'm not really sure how that will work.

Oh, I don't disagree at all - I dropped the ball and was uncharacteristically uncautious and irresponsible. I let myself be played, but I never lied about my qualifications, I just let myself be convinced it would be simple. My wife & I had just given up on a used car search and she relented to buying new, so I rushed through it all.

09-04-2012 10:56 PM

Nik00117

Pretty much tell them to take the hit, a deal is a deal.

I would personally would not of allowed you drive the car away without the stips being met, and if I did, and it backfired that was my fault.

09-04-2012 10:55 PM

suss6052

Quote:

Originally Posted by spittle8

I did not lie about qualifying for the Z Plan, my grandfather worked for Ford for over 30 years and died on the job. I definitely qualify, but there is no way my grandma is going to remember his full SSN and the day he started working for Ford after he's been dead for almost thirty years.

I don't mean to argue, and I don't doubt that your grandfather worked for Ford, but if you and the dealer signed paperwork that turned out to be false because you didn't have the z-plan pin before going to the dealership then the fault lies with both parties. You for not actually ensuring that you had proof of eligibility and the dealer for being in such a rush to sign the paperwork and close another deal where they essentially sold the car at a decent profit + padded the bottom line with extra cost options.

I made sure that when I asked my living grandfather who had retired from Ford many years ago for the pin that I had all my ducks in a row, my drivers license, address, and everything all matched perfectly and I had my pin before I even set foot on a dealer forecourt with the intent to buy/ order a car, with a specific car /configuration in mind.

I did however go in first to check and see if I really liked the color I was thinking of since they did have a similar one in stock. However it was not equipped properly and was too old (it was a Job 1 car from 11-11 or 12-11, where as I wanted a Job 2 car with the full compliment of upgrades, plus it would be fresher.) There were none within a 100 mi radius as far as I could tell that were exactly what I wanted, so I ordered one.

You might be stuck with the car at the price agreed to, and the dealer might have to eat the commission, or you'll have to pay it back, I'm not really sure how that will work.

09-04-2012 10:52 PM

spittle8

Gotcha, thanks a lot!

09-04-2012 10:48 PM

rangerbay

Quote:

Originally Posted by spittle8

Even if they weren't supposed to sell me the car without a PIN, I'm stuck paying the new price without the Z plan, which is already inflated? Surely that can't be legal.

If the vehicle was put in your posession by the dealer, with the knowlege that you were misguided by the dealership on the 4 digits of the social security, and then pumped up the price with worthless add ons, I would tell them a deal is a deal. They are feduciary, and as such cannot transact a contract and deliver the car to you. I don't know for sure if they have a case that would play out well for them in court. They wont be losing money if they keep the deal as you accepted. Service contracts and alarm systems are HIGHLY profitable! Sull up and be willing to go to court. You can represent yourself in small claims.

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