And then we have the we are better than everyone else crowd and our shit really really really doesn't stink.

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I know I'm not better than anyone else, and that my shit stinks. I'd like to vote for politicians willing to reform their own parties instead of politicians who spend all their time in office blaming everything on "them".

Unfortunately there are too many people like yourself who have so much of their identity tied up in politics that they've become unwilling to even entertain the notion that they might be wrong.

The real main difference is this:
Repubs look outward at other other countries, anyone that isn't of like mind with us is treated as a potential enemy. Democrats look inward at our own nation, anyone that isn't of like mind as them is treated as a potential enemy.

And then we have the we are better than everyone else crowd and our shit really really really doesn't stink.

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I know I'm not better than anyone else, and that my shit stinks. I'd like to vote for politicians willing to reform their own parties instead of politicians who spend all their time in office blaming everything on "them".

Unfortunately there are too many people like yourself who have so much of their identity tied up in politics that they've become unwilling to even entertain the notion that they might be wrong.

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The why are you constantly positioning yourself "above" the rest of us, as being totally all wise and knowing and totally neutral on everything that you can see with your god like insights.

Get over yourself already. It seems to be like you think fighting passionately for something is a weakness and that being strong is being like Switzerland, always staying away from the fight.

The dems arn't as bad. But they are still bad. I don't know why so many people seem to have trouble understanding that, either of the "they're all exactly the same!!!1111" or the "dems are gr8!!11" variety.

The dems arn't as bad. But they are still bad. I don't know why so many people seem to have trouble understanding that, either of the "they're all exactly the same!!!1111" or the "dems are gr8!!11" variety.

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I've never seen anyone say both parties are exactly the same except for BT or arglebargle. Everyone else either says the other side is worse or they both suck who care who is worse.

The differences between the parties are very minor. Both parties use hot button issues which neither can really change that much but get people mad to try to show how different their party is from the other. Most people fall for this tactic. They are the shepherds. We are the sheep

Uh taxes just went up on rich people after an epic fight. You may not have noticed.

Also you are wrong about the gay thing. Obama told the DOJ not to defend DOMA. The republicans in congress are the ones defending it. Seeing as that's about all the feds can do about gay rights one way or the other I would not say that is nothing.

Like I said the differences are not large. But they are also not non-existant. Dems are not as bad as Republicans. They are still bad, but not quite as bad.

I'm over myself, but you seem pretty hung up on me. Why? Do I make you feel like less of a special snowflake?

Also, I don't think fighting passionately for something is a weakness, but you should never be so invested in a cause that you become unable to see the damage you're doing in its pursuit.

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I don't see you mocking yourself or people like you. You are, however, mocking republicans and dems. When you start mocking people that act/think/talk like you do, then you will have a point until then - you are just full of yourself.

These shallow platitudes are as painfully obvious as they are valueless. It's not much different from the inane coffee house counter culture drivel that Arglebargle and BT spew. The single and sole intent of thread like this is self aggrandizement, making them the height of irony and worthy of the "Fisted Puma 360 Degree Award."

These shallow platitudes are as painfully obvious as they are valueless. It's not much different from the inane coffee house counter culture drivel that Arglebargle and BT spew. The single and sole intent of thread like this is self aggrandizement, making them the height of irony and worthy of the "Fisted Puma 360 Degree Award."

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If it's so obvious why do you continue to spew the same partisan rhetoric?

You and Poet are two peas in a pod.

It's not a competition Nnanji. You don't need to feel threatened. You're still the coolest kid on the block.

Being right leaning and having watched and realized that the GOP establishment is not only not my friend but are in fact my enemy with the false choices that they "offer", I decided that they must be torn down first so that something with real choices can supplant them. I already know that for the most part that leftists are just going to be another entity to contend with since they fail to see the faults of their officials or ideologies.

Most of the more rabid lefties on this board are baby boomers who've spent a life time being in the opposition party. Now that the country is starting to lean a little left they're no longer the cool rebels they'd always perceived themselves as.

I used to be more republican than anything but ever since they started making wars for based on false reason, sucking off the extreme wealth in this country for their greed, become an establishment of hypocrisy, elect complete imbeciles (Lamar Smith, Sarah Palin, majority of the candidates for 2008 and 2012), and overall just lie through their teeth and stink of corruption. I don't understand what I even saw in them. I've always been and continue to be fiscally conservative though in nature but not to the point of corporate-anarchists. I see the government as the regulation and law making business and that's it, not the job creation or ownership business. I think the government is too archaic and constantly outdated to be able to manage anything we truly need like healthcare, retirement and whatnot.

I could list out the things that suck about the dems. I've personally never considered myself to be one. If I had my wish both parties would be dismissed with a new electoral system.

Its easy to name all the ways dems suck. In fact if you dig back a day or two you'll find a thread where most left leaning outposters complained about the ndaa passing where dems hold a lot of responsibility. This is a great example of both sides sucking and the dem Obama sucking particularly.

What I refuse to do however is place equal blame on the dems every time the GOP fucks up. The dems do enough stuff worthy of blame without pinning them unnecessarily with the misdeeds of the GOP.

Sadly this blame both sides when one is stumbling strategy seems to be a popular tactic here, and speaks to the intellectual laziness of the outposters who employ it. It's a cop out that allows its users not to think or dig any deeper to see where our problems are coming from on each issue. If you always blame both sides than neither one ever needs to answer for its actions individually.

Both sides are stumbling. Just because the Republicans fucked up last doesn't mean the Democrats are suddenly doing it right. Or vice versa.

I'm not interested in blaming anyone. I'm interested in solutions, but I don't think they're going to come until more is expected of both parties by their constituents.

Dems should be looking for ways to cut entitlements, and Republicans should be looking for ways to cut military spending. Both sides should be looking for realistic compromises. Instead Dems and Repubs are demanding concessions they know the other side won't make and then pointing fingers at each other because that's all it takes to win.

Until more of the electorate is unwilling to play that game all we're going to get is grid lock and finger pointing while problems go unsolved.

I guess Badger put it best, its like the tripe you hear at Starbucks on a Sunday morning. Are you also wearing skinny jeans? It's pointless and serves only one purpose. You puffing out your chest and saying look at me! I am the only one who sees what the rest of you are missing, with my super-duper freshman poli-sci magic glasses!