The Flyers are strapped but not really with Prongers $5 mil a year counting towards the cap. He'll never play again. They might not be able to use the LTIR space (if he isn't on the roster to begin the season), but they have room right now despite what capgeek thinks. (capgeek I think also has them at a 25 man roster right now)

tantalum wrote:The Flyers are strapped but not really with Prongers $5 mil a year counting towards the cap. He'll never play again. They might not be able to use the LTIR space (if he isn't on the roster to begin the season), but they have room right now despite what capgeek thinks. (capgeek I think also has them at a 25 man roster right now)

Of course they have no goaltending.

That's been the Flyers' MO ever since Hextall, why change now?

It must kill them to be reminded of Bobrovski's Vezina trophy and the amount they will be paying Bryzgalov for years. How everybody slags Gillis while Holmgren gets a free pass, I'll never know.

If I were the league, I'd be sending some independent docs to do their own examination of Pronger. The guy looked pretty bright-eyed and bushy-tailed when interviewed at the draft. Cap circumvention anyone???? But wait, who's a bum-buddy of Bettman in a key league market? That's right... never gonna happen...

If Pronger could play he would. 6 months ago he was still experiencing severe symptoms. I believe the last part of the year he was able to do some local scouting activities for the Flyers. It is doubtful he'll ever play again as he is one hit away from being an even bigger vegetable than he has been his whole life. I figure at some point the NHL will have to step in and say, fine he can't play again but using him as a LTIR buffer ain't gonna happen anymore.

You know the Flyer thinking on goaltenders right now is: Fine Columbus we gave you a Vezina winner but now you have given us one! And a year from now we'll again be talking about how the Flyers still don't have goaltender that isn't a sieve.

tantalum wrote:It is doubtful he'll ever play again as he is one hit away from being an even bigger vegetable than he has been his whole life. I figure at some point the NHL will have to step in and say, fine he can't play again but using him as a LTIR buffer ain't gonna happen anymore.

That's fine but what are they going to do, force him to retire officially? I think that will open up a huge can of worms because my understanding is the Flyers screwed up when they signed him and he's on a 35+ contract. I'm pretty sure that means they have to carry his cap hit.

tantalum wrote:It is doubtful he'll ever play again as he is one hit away from being an even bigger vegetable than he has been his whole life. I figure at some point the NHL will have to step in and say, fine he can't play again but using him as a LTIR buffer ain't gonna happen anymore.

That's fine but what are they going to do, force him to retire officially? I think that will open up a huge can of worms because my understanding is the Flyers screwed up when they signed him and he's on a 35+ contract. I'm pretty sure that means they have to carry his cap hit.

That's what is so weird about cap circumvention. Clearly the Flyers are circumventing the cap by keeping a retired player on LTIR.

Clearly the Islanders are circumventing the cap when they trade for, then suspend, then don't pay Tim Thomas but use a loophole to have it count against the cap floor.

And of course if Roberto gets "injured" and tries to stay on LTIR to end his contract, there will be hell to pay for the Canucks in spite of the terrible precedent set by the League.

Bingo. Pronger may be all but officially retired but he would be an absolute idiot to forfeit his millions. And given he isn't and likely never will be medically cleared to play (independent doctor or not) it is hard to argue that he shouldn't be on the IR.

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Plus they didn't hit the floor that was announced last summer (don't know what the floor was set at in new CBA though, it must have changed). If the floor was maintained, and Thomas did count, they were actually $5 million below the salary floor.

Sounds like Nathan Horton is looking to sign in a non-traditional hockey market. He wants a quieter life according to LeBrun. I guess he won his cup, just wants to cash in, get fewer head injuries and hang out with his super hot wife.

Rumblings that Alfredsson is considering signing somewhere other than Ottawa, which is totally ridiculous and he’s obviously going to remain a Senator.

herb wrote:Sounds like Nathan Horton is looking to sign in a non-traditional hockey market. He wants a quieter life according to LeBrun. I guess he won his cup, just wants to cash in, get fewer head injuries and hang out with his super hot wife. Rumblings that Alfredsson is considering signing somewhere other than Ottawa, which is totally ridiculous and he’s obviously going to remain a Senator.

Meh... if you're into perfect bodies. I guess she's alright.

Why the hell do hot women insist on wrecking their faces with lip injections?

tantalum wrote:The Flyers are strapped but not really with Prongers $5 mil a year counting towards the cap. He'll never play again. They might not be able to use the LTIR space (if he isn't on the roster to begin the season), but they have room right now despite what capgeek thinks. (capgeek I think also has them at a 25 man roster right now)

herb wrote:Sounds like Nathan Horton is looking to sign in a non-traditional hockey market. He wants a quieter life according to LeBrun. I guess he won his cup, just wants to cash in, get fewer head injuries and hang out with his super hot wife.

Rumblings that Alfredsson is considering signing somewhere other than Ottawa, which is totally ridiculous and he’s obviously going to remain a Senator.

What the hell does that even mean?

Quieter market. Does that mean he doesn't want his team to go to the Finals? He should go to dEdmonton then.