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That looks beautiful. I'm probably going to wait on the larger figure, as it seems to be the more scale accurate figure after watching the promo of season 3 at NYCC, but Hasbro is really cleaning up their act here.

Now, if we get our own mold of Smokescreen & Shockwave, Hasbro just won.

What do you mean "finally"? It was the gimmick for one size class in one toyline. Only 8 figures, assuming Skyquake ever makes it to market. And it hasn't even been a full year. I know it wasn't a popular gimmick but you're making it sound like it infected the entire brand.

Where do you get any indication he meant the entire brand? The "Powerizer" gimmick was strictly PRiD, so I'm sure he was referring to those Voyagers.

By "Kim Yura" & "Zimmo81"

Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

dragons wrote:forogt to mention he looks like scourge from energon series

The "energon series" includes Armada, Energon, and Cybertron, and it's called the Unicron Trilogy.

On that note, Scourge was in Transformers Cybertron, not Energon.

By "Kim Yura" & "Zimmo81"

Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

What do you mean "finally"? It was the gimmick for one size class in one toyline. Only 8 figures, assuming Skyquake ever makes it to market. And it hasn't even been a full year. I know it wasn't a popular gimmick but you're making it sound like it infected the entire brand.

Where do you get any indication he meant the entire brand? The "Powerizer" gimmick was strictly PRiD, so I'm sure he was referring to those Voyagers.

My point is that he's making such a fuss about it that you would think the problem was more wide-reaching than it really is.

Bubbah wrote:Hasbro, congratulations on a Beastformer who doesn't just standup, and have a fold down beast head to reveal the bot head. I think the beast mode hind legs fold up and become the back half of the bot mode legs, but they're well hidden and I for one like how it's done, from what I can see. 2 distinct modes ... well played!

You sound like this is the first time they've ever done a beast figure whose transformation wasn't just "stand up on limbs and fold down the head".

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

What do you mean "finally"? It was the gimmick for one size class in one toyline. Only 8 figures, assuming Skyquake ever makes it to market. And it hasn't even been a full year. I know it wasn't a popular gimmick but you're making it sound like it infected the entire brand.

Where do you get any indication he meant the entire brand? The "Powerizer" gimmick was strictly PRiD, so I'm sure he was referring to those Voyagers.

My point is that he's making such a fuss about it that you would think the problem was more wide-reaching than it really is.

You think he makes it sound more widespread because he used the word "finally." You're keying in on a word that defines a long time. A long time can vary, it doesn't have to be more than a year. 8 months can be considered a "long time." Let's not forget that the PRiD Voyager figures will be on shelves a little while longer, which will probably hit your "full year" minimum.

By "Kim Yura" & "Zimmo81"

Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

On the one hand, he looks awesome. On the other, I forgot we were receiving a Weaponizers size version. However...the Weaponizers have been really shoddy looking to me, I can't imagine he'd be much better. I know we saw pics of it, but I'm assuming that once he hits production, he'll be hardly better than Optimus and Bumblebee now.

I'm conflicted...I think I might just stick with the Voyager.

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On the one hand, he looks awesome. On the other, I forgot we were receiving a Weaponizers size version. However...the Weaponizers have been really shoddy looking to me, I can't imagine he'd be much better.

It was a larger scale figure, but we're not quite sure if it's a Weaponizer or the return of Supreme Class ( ).

By "Kim Yura" & "Zimmo81"

Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

On the one hand, he looks awesome. On the other, I forgot we were receiving a Weaponizers size version. However...the Weaponizers have been really shoddy looking to me, I can't imagine he'd be much better.

It was a larger scale figure, but we're not quite sure if it's a Weaponizer or the return of Supreme Class ( ).

Or Leader class, since Weaponizers have been simialr to but different from the typical Leader class figures we got during the Cybertron-DOTM era.

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

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robot mode is dissapointing and the dragon mode looks worse then it did before.HOWEVER i also just read for the first time about that "beast optimus prime" toy. does this mean that for the first time a truck morphin' prime is going to pull a transmetal-esque evolution in the show, like how primal did in beast wars?or is the toy only being made for the money?

"Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow creaks in these petty Hz from day to day, to the last segment of recorded data and all our yester-cycles have guided fools the way to rusty death- Out,out brief spark! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor shot that struts and frets his hour upon the field. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of cries and bullets, signifying nothing..."-Macbot

starwarrior1227 wrote:robot mode is dissapointing and the dragon mode looks worse then it did before.HOWEVER i also just read for the first time about that "beast optimus prime" toy. does this mean that for the first time a truck morphin' prime is going to pull a transmetal-esque evolution in the show, like how primal did in beast wars?or is the toy only being made for the money?

He'll still be a truck, but with spikes and stuff. We saw a Cyberverse Leader figure last week. (A completely new mold)

We don't know if the Voyager will be a new mold, or modified like the Deluxe/Revealers are.

And yeah, being made for money.

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I preordered him a while back and will be keeping it. I'm really digging the orange because it'll really pop on my TFP shelf. Also, I really like that the beast back appears to form the robot legs and the dragon legs are hidden (at least in the pic) in robot mode.

I'm curious to see the larger version too though, be it Supreme, Weaponizer, Leader, etc. If it's another good model that is different enough to justify (maybe even just by the size), then I might be getting both!

Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'

Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.

Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.

What do you mean "finally"? It was the gimmick for one size class in one toyline. Only 8 figures, assuming Skyquake ever makes it to market. And it hasn't even been a full year. I know it wasn't a popular gimmick but you're making it sound like it infected the entire brand.

Where do you get any indication he meant the entire brand? The "Powerizer" gimmick was strictly PRiD, so I'm sure he was referring to those Voyagers.

My point is that he's making such a fuss about it that you would think the problem was more wide-reaching than it really is.

One could easily connect Mechtech and Powerizers together, given the very similar gimmick. I for one am also glad that the Powerizer/Mechtech gimmick is done with, because as far as I was concerned, they were the same thing, and the whole reason I didn't collect DotM.