If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Dear members,

In order to show respect towards someones wishes, regarding if they want to get surprised by the issue of the manga, that wasn't showed yet in the anime series, please place the proper "Spoiler" prefix on your thread, whenever you create one that contains any spoilers. If you do decide to post any spoiler at all, while creating the thread, in the drop-down box before the thread title, again, please make sure you selected "Spoiler" as the thread prefix.

Re: Another plothole?

Well, she's shocked, since they said no to him.

I'm just gonna repost my thoughts from another post here

Originally Posted by Maaggel

I think Nagato will sneak away, and talk to Tobito.
Then he will say he's not gonna join him, but he will still listen. Tobito will say it's okay, and give him "some advices" - like getting more members and starting an official group. So they can work on Yahikos plan (getting to know peoples pain).

Then Tobito's gonna stage the whole Hanzo thing, and when Yahiko is killed Nagato will turn to Tobito and ask for his help.

I also think there's two reasons Nagato is intriqued - Firstly, he wan't to help Yahiko, and sees this as an opotunity. But other than that this is the first time he's met someone who actually knows alot about the Rinnegan, and someone who can perhaps teach him about it.

He learned the techniques somehow, and somehow he was able to summon the Gedo Mazo. To do that I believe he would be needed to be told how to. Since it was originally left in Tobitos position.

Re: Another plothole?

dude...this is kishimoto we're talking about. get used to it -_- but seriously this manga is getting shittier and shittier.
now im just reading it now because i really want to see the fight between obito and kakashi. and also naruto's fight.

Re: Another plothole?

she was surprised becuase yahiko resused tobis offer and he is telling him that he was the one who encouraged him. maybe tobi used his sharingan on yahiko to make him think that he was the one that came up with the idea to start akatsuki

Re: Another plothole?

Originally Posted by Kakashii

dude...this is kishimoto we're talking about. get used to it -_- but seriously this manga is getting shittier and shittier.
now im just reading it now because i really want to see the fight between obito and kakashi. and also naruto's fight.

It was inevitable that the plot would get convoluted and there would be potholes after how long the manga has gone on for, Im just waiting for it to end too.

Re: Another plothole?

The OP is dead on Akatsuki took a different path post Yahiko's death. All three already have the trademark. Akatsuki cloaks. I've already opined on why there are so many inconsistencies. Only one conclusion other than gross negligence. The timeline being presented each chapter is similar but not the same. Inconsistencies occur from timeline to timeline (like Kabuto's Izanami) but are similar enough that it seems like a single timeline. Narutoverse is looping.

Re: Another plothole?

Originally Posted by HashiramaDescendant

LMAO. :rofl:
Maybe she forgot.

Originally Posted by Tim Jamison

The Senju has spoken

the aforementioned

Originally Posted by DeadManWonderLand

Once again not a plot hole.He did not make them form akatskui.Akatskui was already formed but the version had different ideals all obito is doing here is to push there group in a new direction.The akatskui they know today which was completely different then the one yahiko describes in that very same chapter.I seriously cannot comprehend the number of people on this base who do not know the definition of plot hole lmao

lol... for real... he said that he spurred Yahiko to form akatsuki and we see them in their akatsuki uniforms listening to Obito. when Tobi said to Konan that he was the one behind the creation of akatsuki this means there was no akatsuki before Tobi. yet, there you are.
how immensely stupid would Konan have to be to not connect the dots and realise that the man who approached them THEN would have sth to do with what akatsuki is doing given the fact that he ended up as their boss. she was surprised about what...?
plot hole. some times after chapter 599 i am wondering if it is kishi writing the story or sb else.

Re: Another plothole?

Originally Posted by supino

the aforementioned

lol... for real... he said that he spurred Yahiko to form akatsuki and we see them in their akatsuki uniforms listening to Obito. when Tobi said to Konan that he was the one behind the creation of akatsuki this means there was no akatsuki before Tobi. yet, there you are.
how immensely stupid would Konan have to be to not connect the dots and realise that the man who approached them THEN would have sth to do with what akatsuki is doing given the fact that he ended up as their boss. she was surprised about what...?
plot hole. some times after chapter 599 i am wondering if it is kishi writing the story or sb else.

Yeah, I find it hard to believe that Konan couldn't connect the dots. Kishi is ruining the credibility of my fav character kakashi, Nagato and Konan.

Re: Another plothole?

Unlike the other thread this one might be onto sth. Good find, it does seem pretty strange that they would ever have accepted obito after what yahiko said this chapter. And konans surprise is also illogical

Re: Another plothole?

....Que? GUYS, the Akatsuki is not madaras or obitos creation..... its yahiko's..... She obvosly is shocked because she din't think that yahiko would get pushed around like that..... They were wearing their akatsuki uniforms when talking to tobi you know lol.... he just pushed them into another direction... and she followed, not thinking much of the change. The only place that kishi does mistakes are in is sometimes in the anime were you see something off from the drawings.... The manga is suposed to be perfect....Im sure the dude proof reads the entire thing 100 + times before making it offical... So please, stop saying that there are plot holes in this chapter...