Collingwood and Hawthorn are the last of the strong Vic teams. Richmond gone. Carlton gone. Essendon gone - these teams relied on buying the best talent, cheating and rorting of the salary cap or banned substances. They are the dinosaurs of the AFL.

Commenter

Simple Simon Pieman

Location

Vic Park

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 8:50PM

No point in being the two teams left standing with the biggest support if there is no local competition.

Commenter

Andy

Location

Melbourne

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 9:12PM

it may not have worked for Essendon but you have to hand it to Carlton - they succeeded in "winning" a grand final by cheating! No-one takes much notice of the little * next to that year in the history pages!

Commenter

Saint Matthew

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 9:17PM

Umm please tell me the last VFL/ AFL team not to "buy" a Premiership. People need to think before talking rubbish. The game has been professional for years was semi professional in the early 70s. Then if you want to go back to the amateur era clubs who won flags recruited players by offering good employment. Prospects. Nice try though

Commenter

Go Blues

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 10:25PM

Saint Mathew. Carlton have 16 Premierships in the Cabinent deal with it. Stop the sooking, Carlton, Essendon, Collingwood, Geelong etc could of splintered years ago to create the AFL and left your Saints in the VFL but instead supported a salary cap and a draft system. Your Saints benefitted by many number 1 and early draft picks. The strong clubs did all they could to help the Saints win flag number 2 and still your mob failed. Focus on where your saints keep going wrong ahead of other clubs

Commenter

Go Blues

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 10:30PM

Simple Simon what an apt name. All Teams "buy" players and Premierships its a professional sport.

Commenter

Go Blues

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 10:33PM

Simple Simon, your moniker is indicative of your memory. And the team you support. Perhaps you haven't heard about Collingwood being funded by John Wren (look him up) or trying to induce the dominator to breach his contract after the 1979 premiership resulting in a huge fine. Pot. Kettle?

Commenter

Ash

Location

Melbourne

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 10:41PM

One decent game on the other side of the country on Saturday. Apart from the Hawks who are deminished as a side due to injuries who else is standing up from Melbourne? Its a diet of dross.

Commenter

Andy

Location

Melbourne

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 5:29PM

well you can forget about Carlton and Essendon flying the flag for Victoria! neither of those teams has reached a Grand Final in almost 15 years. And it's only getting worse for them.

Commenter

Saint Matthew

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 6:39PM

In my 49 years I'm more than happy with the amount of flags I've seen my Blues win. How many have your saints won in my lifetime Saint Mathew?

Commenter

Go Blues

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 6:52PM

Im a Piesman, and was really going for tigers today, to do it for t shirt tommy, who did a lot for the Pies. got us into five grannies with ordinary teams. Very poor tigers, fancy letting down a legend in front of his grieving family, very poor show, but how typical of the toothless tigers form.

Commenter

Piesnchess

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 4:49PM

Bit rich criticising, considering your boys went down to Adelaide!

Commenter

blu

Location

Geelong

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 7:36PM

Melbourne on the up - Richmond heading down, again. Richmond's next final will be no earlier than 2018. Malthouse will be going cheap next year.

Commenter

Saint Matthew

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 4:17PM

Saint Mathew, if you are going to comment, try something factual and not dribble

Commenter

Go Blues

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 5:17PM

tigers are absolute rubbish to many wannabees Hardwick needs to get tougher and wield the axe, couldn't even do it for TOMMY DISGRACEFUL

Commenter

steve

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 4:17PM

tigers are absolute rubbish to many wannabees Hardwick needs to get tougher and wield the axe, couldn't even do it for TOMMY DISGRACEFUL

Commenter

steve

Date and time

May 17, 2014, 4:16PM

Maybe Melbourne are becoming a better team each week under Roos. I'm sure the Tiges gave thier all, anyway if it takes a Death for a team to play its best to win a game, it says little about the players. Credit to Roos, the Dees have brought into his game plan and they are improving