A significant number of Mac owners upgrading to Leopard on Friday reported that after installing the new operating system, their machines locked up, showing only an interminable - and very Windows-like - "blue screen of death."

I'm upgrading my 20" iMac (Core Duo) at the moment and the installation 'completed', then the computer rebooted and it has been sitting on a plain blue screen for the past 30 minutes.

There is no progress indicator of any sort but I can occasionally hear the hard drive seeking.

explains thread posted on Apple forums. Many other Apple users complain from the same issue. Some reports speculate that the glitch might be related to a third-party program that installs a base-level framework that modifies OS X. Unfortunately, Apple was not available to comment on the story. Continue reading the full thread - Installation appears stuck on a plain blue screen.Source: ComputerWorld

The overwhelming majority of problems, both on PCs and Macs, are related to 3rd party software, not the OS. Apple's starting to feel the pain Windows has been facing for a long time, and Apple was even trying to exploit it. The more popular you get, the more 3rd party programs exist for the OS, and the more problems you have. OSX isn't superior to Windows in any way, in terms of crashing and stability, it just didn't have as many 3rd party software apps for it.

The overwhelming majority of problems, both on PCs and Macs, are related to 3rd party software, not the OS. Apple's starting to feel the pain Windows has been facing for a long time, and Apple was even trying to exploit it. The more popular you get, the more 3rd party programs exist for the OS, and the more problems you have. OSX isn't superior to Windows in any way, in terms of crashing and stability, it just didn't have as many 3rd party software apps for it.

Not always the fault of 3rd party software. The biggest problem I have on my PC is with my MS webcam, using MS messenger on MS windows - crashes to the requirement of a reboot about 30% of attempts. You would think it'd work together well as it was all MS!?!?

The overwhelming majority of problems, both on PCs and Macs, are related to 3rd party software, not the OS. Apple's starting to feel the pain Windows has been facing for a long time, and Apple was even trying to exploit it. The more popular you get, the more 3rd party programs exist for the OS, and the more problems you have. OSX isn't superior to Windows in any way, in terms of crashing and stability, it just didn't have as many 3rd party software apps for it.

i have to agree and disagree. the more popular the OS the more problems it is, true. but OSX is superior to windows in regards to the coding and the platform. im not an expert but osx is based on BSD which is far superior to what windows is based on. also, a lot less coding goes into osx which makes it more effecient.

by: newtekie1OSX isn't superior to Windows in any way, in terms of crashing and stability, it just didn't have as many 3rd party software apps for it.

I disagree. Apple has a huge advantage because they have control of both the software/operating system AND the hardware. Microsoft doesn't. That's why Apple wont sell OSX to use on PC hardware.

Most of the problems I find with PCs are incompatible hardware issues or drivers, and have nothing to do with other software. Macs are picky about hardware, so it either works or it doesn't. PCs are picky too, but it either works or it works really shitty some of the time.

by: Rob!I disagree. Apple has a huge advantage because they have control of both the software/operating system AND the hardware. Microsoft doesn't. That's why Apple wont sell OSX to use on PC hardware.

Most of the problems I find with PCs are incompatible hardware issues or drivers, and have nothing to do with other software. Macs are picky about hardware, so it either works or it doesn't. PCs are picky too, but it either works or it works really shitty some of the time.

by: EnglishLionNot always the fault of 3rd party software. The biggest problem I have on my PC is with my MS webcam, using MS messenger on MS windows - crashes to the requirement of a reboot about 30% of attempts. You would think it'd work together well as it was all MS!?!?

True, 3rd party isnt' really the best term for it, I guess just add on software would be a better term. Though the problem you describe sounds like a driver conflict in the Webcam, and it is most likely conflicting with some other piece of software not from MS. Just because it seems like everything involved in the equation is MS, that doesn't mean it is. You have to consider everything involved. It could be a video card driver that is screwing with the Webcam.

by: Easy Rhinoi have to agree and disagree. the more popular the OS the more problems it is, true. but OSX is superior to windows in regards to the coding and the platform. im not an expert but osx is based on BSD which is far superior to what windows is based on. also, a lot less coding goes into osx which makes it more effecient.

Why is it superior? It gives the illusion of superiority by not having 1/100th the number of add on applications for it, which means it only has to worry about 1/10,000th of the number of compatibility issues, but is it really superior in regards to the topic at hand? In terms of crashing and stability, which I state was all I was talking about, is the OS actually any better? Or does it just seem better because it has less chance of having a compatibility issue because it is compatible with far less software?

by: Rob!I disagree. Apple has a huge advantage because they have control of both the software/operating system AND the hardware. Microsoft doesn't. That's why Apple wont sell OSX to use on PC hardware.

Most of the problems I find with PCs are incompatible hardware issues or drivers, and have nothing to do with other software. Macs are picky about hardware, so it either works or it doesn't. PCs are picky too, but it either works or it works really shitty some of the time.

What exactly do you think drivers are? Software and usually 3rd party software at that.

I love this fanboi kind of double talk though. I'm not calling you a fanboi, I'm just saying your statement is the kind you hear out of fanbois a lot.

You start off you statement by applauding Apple for forcing incompatibilities with most hardware and software, then claim the PCs problem is incompatibility with hardware and software.:wtf: You can talk about incompatibilities until you are blue in the face, the fact of the matter is exactly as you state it, OSX is far less compatible with the hardware and software out on the market to day, which again leads back to my original point, it is exactly why they have the illusion of being better in terms of stability.

And PCs aren't nearly as picky. Apple shoved that "it just works" shit down our throats, and it clearly doesn't. You are correct, with Macs it either works or it doesn't, and the majority of the time it doesn't, but it is getting better every day. However, with PCs it just works the majority of the time, works but works pretty shitty some of the time, or doesn't work at all. At least if I walk into a computer store today I don't have to worry about looking on the package to make sure it will work with my PC, but I do have to looks on it to make sure it will work with my Mac.

by: RavenasThe customers say that, not Apple.

No Apple said it in a huge advertising compaign. Do you remember the "Hi I'm a Mac and Hi I'm a PC" commercials?