So lets get down to the basics of why there is a disagreement over things like licenses and registrations.

The left wants the rules of guns to be made so more people cannot have guns. They want guns to be rare.

They want laws that make it hard for people to get carry permits or even own guns. They want the laws to make you lock up your guns so you cannot use them in defense. They want every gun in America to be on a government list, even though that has nothing to do with preventing crimes.

The right is willing to have simple rules to tighten things up a tad, but the right to K&B arms is fundemental.

Posted by seamar_116 on 3/3/2013 1:55:00 AM (view original):Swamp...are you in favor of a mandatory gun safety class prior to being allowed to purchase?

Raucous-what is the intended purpose of a car? What is the intended purpose of a gun? You see no difference?

And again, the right gets its panties in a wad...did I say anything about banning guns? Neither of you think there is any room for improvement in who should have them and what training they should have?

I believe gun safety training should be a part of each state's education program. Nothing raises your self esteem like hitting the target.

Are you one of those liberal...ooh it's all about self-esteem let's make sure everyone feels good about themselves..let's make sure every kid gets a trophy liberals?

Schools have nothing more important to do than to teach gun safety?

Why are you objecting to a mandatory gun safety/training course as a condition to ownership? Then we are matching program to ownership....putting it in the schools is taking away from things that everyone needs...like reading and writing, and the ability to think critically.

Posted by swamphawk22 on 3/3/2013 8:10:00 PM (view original):It isnt English Lit. Take a few hours off of phys ed and teach gun safety to everyone. No more accidents.

Again I think that gun owners have a legitimate reson to be concerned with mandatory government regulations to own a weapon.

yet you think nothing of mandating that every student take a gun safety course even though they may never own gun. And again you show your hypocrisy...okay mandating students take a gun safety course....yet apparently for some unexplicable reason objecting to requiring a gun safety course for those that actually want to own a gun. Why?

You make zero sense...and I don't see any of the "allies" you think you have coming to your defense either.

And why do you think this would eliminate accidents? First off, look at the list I posted. I hope to God that some of those people had training. Second, how many years would pass between legal gun ownership and the training in your example? How long in my example? Why are you opposed to adults who want to own a gun be required to have safety training? Why? Why? Why?

Posted by swamphawk22 on 3/4/2013 3:07:00 AM (view original):If Obama and his allies would reach out to the NRA to try to get sane regulations I am sure we can support them.

I think everyone here can understand why we would be worried about Obama and Pelosi deciding who gets to K&B arms.

And It is interesting that you feel education will not prevent accidents.

<<And It is interesting that you feel education will not prevent accidents.>>

I never said any such thing. I was saying let us move the education to the point where someone is actually going to own a gun. Are you really that dense you cannot to see that my proposal makes more sense?

LIberals, stop wasting our time. Gun violence is decreasing. And again we have liberal hysteria showing the rest of us liberals true motives, namely, the complete banning of firearms. Take a look at some of the proposals coming out of the States. That is what liberals want. So good job. You hurt your case, once again.