However, with the UK predicted to be heading for a record-breaking hot summer, the party has decided to look again at its policy of pretending to be libertarian while at the same time thinking it can decide who people can or can’t get married to.

One has to wonder why you spent so many months trying to come up with that nonsense. Maybe it would be better if you were telling us about the Lib Dems cons and Labour MP’s and councillors who are having to go to court or repay monies they have embezzled in the expenses scandal after all there are a considerable amount to choose from?

[Took me about 30 minutes to come up with that nonsense actually.] – Tom

Oh dear another one who believes that the conlablibdum party is whiter than white, don’t you people read anything? Or is it that you fear something new and offering a different course of action to handing over the governance of our country to an unelected committee of failed political pygmies in brussells, so you think that making up nonsense is a good policy.

Well th start is getting away from the eussr where corruption is rife, then the outsourcing companies all back the cons and the labs so they would be out of the picture as well, after that the basis would be the lobbying companies, who haven’t tried to get anywhere with UKIP so far.

Barry,can you tell me what ukip have done regarding, muslim faith schools, sharia law, and halal meat in our food, the murder of Charlene Downes? Farrage has said if he doesn’t get “substantial ” numbers of MP’s at the next general election , he will quit. Perhaps this is after ukip have served their purpose to get labour elected.

Well are you saying that UKIP is in power and should have done something about those areas, or are you asking what has the coalition and the opposition currently in Westminster done? I don’t understand your question? I am not a clairvoyant I have no die what will happen after the next election.

So you would vote for labour who try to cover up major concerns, or the lib dems who try to cover up major concerns, or the tories who try to cover up major concerns, and they all blame each other for their failures, or the greens with one policy die to make everyone pay through the nose to get a poor service on power and thereby destroy society at large.

Well as I only got the proposed manifesto today and it is a hefty tome I haven’t read it all yet, why don’t you just ask some of the people who have been telling you what was in it for weeks although they hd no idea whatsoever, you won’t get the right answer but it will give me another laugh at their pitiful attempts to decry the only party that will ever give us a chance to decide whether we want to be governed entirely from brussels.

Barry, ukip voters are disgruntled tory voters. ukip are being promoted to take tory votes, thus allowing labour back into power. Why is farage promoted so much by the media? ukip support the very things that have ruined this country.

barry
actually i am asking you..the problem is corruption in british politics…so what i ukips solution….i’ll ask again and keep asking until i get an answer from you, not today, but next time you blame europe or lobbyists…it is not good enough blaming nasty others when the problem is in british politics…

Well lets be honest about this I am not in any position to stop the corruption from the old three parties, they have always had that problem, I suggest that instead of asking me to sort it out you go to your own party and start to get rid of those people who are not reliable, just as UKIP has done.

There has been increased criticism of Ed Miliband this week after an open letter signed by 28 left-wing activists was published in the Guardian criticising Miliband’s electoral strategy. Many traditional Labour supporters and voters have been increasingly alienated by Labour’s move to the Right and its policy of adopting harsh Tory policies and attitudes towards the poor.

Shapps of course thinks the hop polo only drink play bingo and are all skivers.

Clegg has only managed to get the gay marriage thing through which was never in the manifesto of either party, they found time to debate that but not why the nhs is underfunded or a proper debate on HS2 or a referendum on the eussr, what are you going to do about that as you consider that anyone can do something about the corruption in politics.

I’m sure that I and the other 70% of ukip members who have never been tory voters are quite surprised that you think we are disgruntled tories, Ukip is being promoted to gather voters from across the political spectrum who believe that the fascist attempt to federalise europe is not in our nations best interests, only the media propaganda machine is fooling the people who believe anything they say is true, for their own interests. Don’t you remember when the SUN claimed they had won the election or was that before your time?

So Barry who did you vote for before you supported ukip? And why is the media promoting ukip to attract people from across all parties . Rupert Murdoch is a supporter of the eu, his media empire is promoting ukip daily in his papers and on tv so why is he promoting a party that is against his views?

barry
i have asked you the question…so just what are ukips policies to solve corruption in british politics? you still have not offered me an answer to it…trying to change things from within always changes one from within…you claim it is nasty others who need changing….so i ask you what will ukip do to end corruption in british politics…if they are keen to end contact with corrupt european politics, they surely will feel the same about corruption in british politics, and either end contact with british politics or have policies to end corruption in british politics?

OBD you can keep asking the same question over and over, and yet you never listen do you have your comments on a loop or something, you asked me what I am going to do, but you are doing nothing yourself, you support the most corruption ridden democratically deficient body, you haven’t said what you are going to do to stop corruption, but expect others to tell you. UKIP have thrown people out of the party, such as Godfrey Bloom what did the tories do with their fruitcakes? they are still in parliament although the local Cannock tories have deselected their MP central office was against it. Maybe you could explain why Diane Abbott is not being castigated for her comments, or Baroness Warsi. There needs to be a police investigation into the expenses of the mp’s to see just who has been ripping us off to pay their mortgages on expenses etc.

barry
i have actually said to you, and other posters what i will do to stop corruption many many times, but you do not listen…i will repeat…you said european politics is corrupt, that is the main stay of the loop argument that you are in, that YOU keep repeating over and over again…for info i do not support ukip, labour, nor the condems…i do not support capitalist politics at all…i support human perma-culture..repeating a question does not cause the question to be invalid…every time you make a statement about corruption else where in politics, i will ask the same question…i also NEVER ask you what you are going to do, i asked for ukips policy on solving corruption in british politics, in that case, are you saying that you are ukip?
“i have asked you the question…so just what are ukips policies to solve corruption in british politics? you still have not offered me an answer to it…trying to change things from within always changes one from within…you claim it is nasty others who need changing….so i ask you what will ukip do to end corruption in british politics…if they are keen to end contact with corrupt european politics, they surely will feel the same about corruption in british politics, and either end contact with british politics or have policies to end corruption in british politics?”…

A new face in politics is’ I hope’ the chance to break the stranglehold and corruption of today’s ‘all in it together crew’ (meaning all)
Ukip gives you the chance to see if anything can change ,that in itself is worth it”s weight in gold to this country I would think.

On gay marriage, I always thought the question should have been ‘can 2 people in love marry’ and if not why not ?
Well now we are a country that plays ”we are the party for the gay community to vote for” which is categorising and shit imo

John, if 2 people are living together as a couple , what difference does a church ceremony make? seeing as ukip have said they will form an coalition government with either lab/cons how are they going to make any changes? Did the ukip councillors in the Norfolk area form an alliance with labour councillors? .Oh don’t tell me opposites attract

Well first,your right it doesn’t make any difference apart from to the churches income ,which is probably the only reason its being bothered with by the gov/church.

Second,I hadn’t heard that about ukip ,so if that’s right ,your right sod all will change,my point was we somehow need to be getting the power back to the electorate and a new party might just be the way we can referendum against everything they say from what they wear to anything else that’s nonsense.
I hardly agree with anything any of them say ,I just want a way to tell them this on a national scale.
I’m probably being innocent of thinking anything is better than the 3 parties ,but I don’t see any other option to be rid of them and make them know how the majority of this country feels about govs in general.

John ,You’re right about the 3 main parties betraying the British people, If you think ukip will make a difference I’m afraid you will be disappointed. Ukip are being used to fool the British public. Again I ask. Why is Rupert Murdoch who is pro eu, backing a party that is anti eu?? ukip refused to vote against an eu proposal for compulsory gay sex education for all 5 year olds. Are those the changes you want ukip to make?

I don’t recall you ever having made any such statement OBD. In fact I doubt very much if you have a clue how to stop it, but by leaving the eussr we automatically reduce the corruption that affects us in Brussells, stopping the lobbying by allowing companies to produce reports that can be reviewed by all MP’s regarding certain plans to alter the laws would stop the payments etc to “encourage” MP’s to listen to them, and would also have the bonus of letting the MP’s get a good idea of problems that could arise if they implement laws, but the main way to reduce corruption is of course to get out of the eussr, because that is where the majority of the laws emanate.

barry
“I don’t recall you ever having made any such statement OBD. In fact I doubt very much if you have a clue how to stop it, but by leaving the eussr we automatically reduce the corruption that affects us in Brussells….” …you now deny making this/the statement, that you just did ??? then i go on to say in response to that statement..

“i have actually said to you, and other posters what i will do to stop corruption many many times, but you do not listen…i will repeat…you said european politics is corrupt, that is the main stay of the loop argument that you are in, that YOU keep repeating over and over again…for info i do not support ukip, labour, nor the condems…i do not support capitalist politics at all…i support human perma-culture..repeating a question does not cause the question to be invalid…every time you make a statement about corruption else where in politics, i will ask the same question…i also NEVER ask you what you are going to do, i asked for ukips policy on solving corruption in british politics, in that case, are you saying that you are ukip?
“i have asked you the question…so just what are ukips policies to solve corruption in british politics? you still have not offered me an answer to it…trying to change things from within always changes one from within…you claim it is nasty others who need changing….so i ask you what will ukip do to end corruption in british politics…if they are keen to end contact with corrupt european politics, they surely will feel the same about corruption in british politics, and either end contact with british politics or have policies to end corruption in british politics?”…” so just what is ukips policy for solving corruption in british politics?

The question you should be asking Carl is if the eussr proposed compulsory gay sex education for 5 year olds, why was it proposed in the first place and just why are the eussr getting involved with areas such as this. Personally I don;t think even the eussr would have had that proposal.

So obi you just keep repeating the same claim the fact is that you have never posted a single idea on how you would reduce the corruption anywhere at all, you just repeat the claim that you have said many times that you have done that, now either tell us what you claim to have told us or drop the claim entirely. The fact is I had told you in my last reply but you just carry on repeating yourself endlessly if you have nothing to add to this debate it might be better if you listened instead of wasting your time cutting and pasting.

barry
i have NEVER asked for your solutions, but for ukips solutions, to corruption in british politics, and it is well known that they change with the wind…
i don’t have to give my solutions to corruption in british politics, ukip does, so what are they??? i’ll ask again…so just what is ukips policy for solving corruption in british politics?
“so i ask you what will ukip do to end corruption in british politics…if they are keen to end contact with corrupt european politics, they surely will feel the same about corruption in british politics, and either end contact with british politics or have policies to end corruption in british politics?”…” so just what is ukips policy for solving corruption in british politics?”

At last you admit that you have never given any answer to your own question, or that you have any answers whatsoever, it’s just like the media position of covering up what the old parties are doing now, by saying well what are you going to do to sort it out, well the easy answer is get elected, then the problem will be solved because the current bunch of corrupt politicians will be gone. UKIP act when they have a problem member, they don’t promote them or support them like the old parties do, so OBD what are your favourite politicians doing bout corruption they have all been in a position to do something, oh yes that would be to carry on regardless and hope they don’t get caught..

barry
“so i ask you what will ukip do to end corruption in british politics…if they are keen to end contact with corrupt european politics, they surely will feel the same about corruption in british politics, and either end contact with british politics or have policies to end corruption in british politics?”…” so just what is ukips policy for solving corruption in british politics?”

i’ll ask again what are ukips policies to solve corruption in british politics?

Of course UKIP is keen to end corruption in British politics that is clear unlike the parties you support you are the one who claims to know the answer but so far have just forgotten what has been stated and are going down this line over and one rand over nd over so I am not going to reply to your cut and past responses from this point.

barry
i don’t have to give my solutions, you continue to try to put people on the spot by asking what they would do, but at the start of this tread on this blog post, i have changed all of that, and put the boot on the other foot…i am therefore asking what ukip will do and you continue to refuse to answer that/this very important question, why is that i wonder?
i am asking you because, you have put yourself in a position to be ukip’s spoke’s person on this blog…
i am asking you to provide ukip’s solotions to corruption in british politics, they are after all claiming to be the anti-corruption party…so just what are ukip’s policies to end corruption in british politics…i find it odd that they seem to have policies to end corruption in european politics, but none for ending it in british politics….

Ps OverburdonedDonkey you have ignored everything I have said but you seem to be in favour of the status quo you are the one who who stated their is corruption in the British politics as I am sure there are in every government throughout the world, clearly you have no idea how to prevent this but when someone makes a suggestion you just ignore it and cut and paste the same thing, so I am asking you again. What has the conservative party done whilst in office to cut the corruption what did the Labour party do whilst in office, what have the lib dems done whilst in office, these are the parties you should be questioning as to why they have allowed it, you should be aware that UKIP acts quickly when there is a problem member unlike those three so your question is completely in the wrong direction ask what the old three parties are doing?

barry
i’d thought you had gone how disappointing…
barry
“so i ask you what will ukip do to end corruption in british politics…if they are keen to end contact with corrupt european politics, they surely will feel the same about corruption in british politics, and either end contact with british politics or have policies to end corruption in british politics?”…” so just what is ukips policy for solving corruption in british politics?”
i’ll ask again what are ukips policies to solve corruption in british politics?

You are the one who started going on about corruption in Westminster, not me, and after all the corruption in the eUSSR is well documented, you don’t seem to be concerned with that at all in fact you would rather harp on about Westminster instead of dealing with that. UKIP’s policy in Europe is to fight the corruption, there are no ukip mps at present and yet you expect them to sort out what the three old parties have been doing for hundreds of years instantly, perhaps you need to look in a mirror and ask yourself why you are not asking that question of the tories labour or the lib dems?

Now either find a new line or stop wasting the time of people who want to read about the things that should be getting dealt with.

Hi Barry, the reason I mentioned it is (1) ukip didn’t vote to oppose it, (2) quit a few MEP’s voted for it in the first place is shocking. Given time it will be presented again and again till it is passed. Proposed by Portuguese MEP Edite Estralia on 11-12-13. If a parent objects ,then the parent is Charged for being homophobic. Just like they want to lower the age of consent to 14/12.

I have no idea as I wasn’t aware of this proposal until you mentioned it, I will however attempt to find out why? It is possible that there was some sort of deal made, between the various political groups, to treat it with the contempt it so richly deserved.

Sorry Barry you are mistaken. If you visit Simon Darby’s blog spot 10-12-13 it reads 327 MEP’s voted for gay sex education for 5 year olds, against 334. Close , lib/dems and labour voted for the proposal, ukip abstained . So as not to offend anybody. We are not discussing the other treacherous parties but ukips actions. ukip support sharia law courts in Britain, and accepting Syrian refugees into Britain. How is that in Britain’s interests

Ukip indeed does not object to genuine asylum seekers, and indeed those who would add to the nation as a whole, that has always been the case despite the ill informed or mischievous claiming that UKIP is racist. The objection is to the enforced unfettered immigration from Europe, of those people taking jobs where the unemployed could take them, and then sending the money they earn abroad. This is the vital difference between UKIP and racist parties. Accepting refugees is humanitarian, it isn’t based on economics which is what the old three parties base all of their limited, due to eussr membership, policy making. I have not seen Simon Darby’s blog ever, but I have asked for clarification from UKIP central office to ascertain why this decision was taken. Is there any record of how the other British MEP’s voted or reacted?

barry
no, not true you started going on about it, in your above post to tom…
“One has to wonder why you spent so many months trying to come up with that nonsense. Maybe it would be better if you were telling us about the Lib Dems cons and Labour MP’s and councillors who are having to go to court or repay monies they have embezzled in the expenses scandal after all there are a considerable amount to choose from?”
it was after that reply, i then asked what are ukip’s policies on ending corruption in british politics…you continue to avoid this juxtaposed position, because it blows ukip’s credibility out of the water, if it ever had/has any that is….as it has no policies, on the issues that i have raised…it is also extremely unreasonable, especially in the way you have framed your biased nonsensical political argument, to put others in the position of coming up with answers to solve corruption in british politics, or indeed european politics, if the your only answer is to project the problem of corruption in politics, to claim it is a solely european issue….you claim ukip as saviors, as if, leaving europe will solve corruption in politics…you do say it will…it will not…except now the british people, having left europe will be in an even worse position than ever before…any solutions to solving political corruption, cannot come from within the political system, as it is presently formulated and must come from outwith it, it is for the people to decide and not politicians…

So you still refuse to answer the question you should be asking instead of showing your fear, with your continual anti UKIP rants. What are the people in Westminster doing about the corruption there? Do you think it is OK for them to carry on being corrupt, you want answers try asking yourself and supports of the other two parties.

OBD you have tried to take the debate away from the corruption in the eussr, and have attempted to pretend that UKIP is responsible for the shortcomings of the political parties in Westminster, you have offered no evidence to support your claim which is evidently politically based no matter how many times you try to say otherwise, you have offered no ideas of what will happen in your little world, you have ignored every one of my replies so we will go back to the original comment of the corruption in Brusselss such as this :- http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2687/european_union_corruption_knows_no_shame

The international law regarding asylum is ” they claim asylum in the nearest safe country” not travel over several countries with their families to Britain because of our over generous benefits system. Well you can get the voting data from the euro parliament web site. Can you tell me why ukip endorses sharia law courts in Britain , in effect allowing a state with in a state. Britain survived for thousands of years without a multicultural society, why change it now.

Isn’t Simon Darby a member of BNP, which is not Ukip. Ukip does not endorse Sharia Law, are you looking at the lib dems website to get that. Britain has always been a multi cultural society, which is why you drink alcohol, smoke tobacco, eat curry, and have a language made out of several other languages. So you ask about BNP members and make up stories about our culture and ask why we take people from Syria, it is because we are good at looking after those in need like we did the Ugandan Asians and the Lebanese, whose lives were at risk. I find it odd that you should try to make out that we are wrong to support the other parties in that aspect, but then you are wrong on every front with your other claims.

Your are now twisting things Barry. We eat curry and smoke Tabaco ,but all the people who came here pre 1950’s 99% were white, spoke our language and lived by our laws. We did not provide translators for them or promoted diversity. We are so good at looking after others , that’s why we have record youth unemployment, child poverty, and fuel poverty. So you are saying ukip endorses 10,000’s of asylum seekers ,like the Ugandan Asians coming here. So if I’m wrong on every thing , did you find out about ukip abstaining on the child sex proposal. Can you tell me if ukip has the ban the burkha policy or did you do a u turn on that also.

Well now you are twisting things we have had immigration well before the 50’s and the people coming from the West indies Africa and Asia were usually from the then Empire who used the English language as either their primary or secondary language, and the law in this country was made by this country so they were treated with the same laws as everyone else. The idea off parallel laws is never going to be sensible, even though religions other than Anglican could hold wedding ceremonies they required a civil marriage as well to be legal in the eyes of the law. I’m still awaiting a response regarding your claim about child sex, which really shows that the eussr are out of touch with the majority of people in any of the previously independent nations, and only working for their personal perverted sexual predilections.

UKIP has stated publicly time after time that it isn’t against genuine immigration, but it is against unfettered immigration forced on to us by Brussells, it isn’t a new policy it has always been the case. Just because the media report anti UKIP populist claptrap it doesn’t mean it is true.

Perhaps you could tell us which party you support, and show that there has never been a U turn on anything, remember that most of what people think were U turns by UKIP were actually rogue members making statements that didn’t come from the party in the first place.

barry
i don’t have to justify my self to any political party, if they want my vote they have to earn my vote..there is no point in changing my reply..until i consider it has been reasonably answered to my satisfaction..you have clearly demonstrated how easy it is for ukip to scapegoat others…ie europe, for being corrupt whilst totally ignoring the political corruption on our own doorstep..if ukip were serious about political corruption they would have a complete package of anti-corruption policies and measures, they don’t, and not isolationist policies as they now have…
ukip wants others to do their dirty work for them, leave europe and end up isolated with the likes of ukip in charge…so just what are ukip’s policies for ending corruption in british politics? i don’t hide behind others, as you do, i deal with corruption head on as and when required…so just what are ukip’s policies for ending corruption in british politics? i will continue to fight corruption where ever i find it…

You claim not to justify yourself yet you continually make false allegations regarding UKIP, your question has been answered not only on this thread but on others as well, as you refer to corruption on my doorstep I take it that you do not consider the UK to be your own doorstep and as such are just another foreigner sticking your fingers into my nations business. You hide behind others because you make claims that you do nothing to address but demand that others do, you are very much clinging to your mothers skirt hem.

UKIP have MEP’s Europe is proven to have Corruption, you think that it is ok that the corruption in europe continues and that UKIP should not be addressing that, but you also demand where UKIP has no MP’s that they are responsible for preventing it, your behaviour is ridiculous and inconsistent with any form of reality of the situation, you can only fight battles in places where your army happens to be. You know UKIP’s policy on corruption from how they unlike the other parties remove the person from membership, it is up to the legal authorities to take legal action, now what exactly have you personally done to prevent corruption anywhere?

barry ukip
refresh my memory, will you…
so just what is ukips policy on ending corruption in british politics, as they will be standing for election to euro and british parliament…..? answer below thank you…

Overburdondonkey europhile refresh my memory what is the policy of the parties responsible for any corruption in british politics who are the ones at westminster, I realise that you expect UKIP to take the heavy lifting on this due to your intensive demands that they do the job not conlablibdum, I can only presume this is because UKIP are highlighting the corruption at brussells and you are eager for them to do the same when they get to westminster. I presume that UKIP will get your vote as this is your only concern apparently.

barry ukip
ukip and you batter on about how bad europe is and corrupt it is, and have policy pledges to deal with that, like we should leave europe…i think in that case ukip should leave the uk, i’m sure we could crowd fund an island for you all, to live in, we would drop supplies to you lot, honest!,….it is only reasonable that i ask what ukip’s polices are to end corruption in british politics…

Barry , read my reply above again, we didn’t have millions of people from the empire coming here did we. Before the 50’s 99% were WHITE and assimilated in. ukip are a multi cultural party. Did ukip reverse it’s ban the burkha policy or not. the u turns ukip perform are its own policies not individuals. As a ukip representative can you answer the questions or are you afraid of the answers.

Well that would solve the corupption problem wouldn’t it, tell the party fighting it to clear off, maybe you should stay in europe where you are obviously posting from as you like corruption so much, and think that wailing about how UKIP should solve westminsters problems rather than the ones they can clearly as you have so much faith in UKIPS abilities you will be voting for them, that is if you actually vote and don’t just cry about why everything is wrong without anything other than to attack UKIP in your head as lead by the nose by the media.

Honestly you are not being reasonable you are jet asking a question and not reading the replies, you don’t even consider that UKIP fighting corruption at brussells where they are in a position to fight it matters you want them to fight it in westminster where they have no means of fighting it. UKIP has influence at brussells because Farage leads one of the euro parties, the labconlibdums have no leaders of a party and have no influence, they are not fighting corruption in brussells or at home, so why are you against the honest party?

I think you will find that before the 50’s the number of white immigrants wasn’t 99%, that would assume that they were returning from australia New zealand South africa and coming from Canada and no where else. UKIP are indeed a multicultural party, I can find no reference to UKIP ever having a policy on Burkha’s, or the similar headscarves worn by Nuns, so I’m not sure how they could have reversed it. This sounds like another one of the stories that the anti UKIP media spread around in their pro europe propaganda.

I meant Jews from eastern Europe, Spanish from the Armada, French hugoenots, Saxons, Vikings, Belgian munition workers , Prisoners from WW1. Irish workers, Name an Asian/African influx prior to the 50’s. I’m sure the families of Kriss Donald, Charlene Downes, Lee Rigsby and the grooming gangs will appreciate ukip supporting diversity. So how will ukip stop the islamification of Britain?

Well first UKIP needs to be elected, then the immigration can be controlled again, and we will be able to say who is in the nation. The islamification will continue in the areas where there are British Muslims, they have a right to whichever faith they choose to have in this country, but sharia law will not be running alongside British law, because there is no place in any society to have different laws.

The 2010 manifesto is no longer relevant, the 2014 one hasn’t yet been released, I think you may mean the Hibab which is an entirely different mode of dress, and the majority of British people want this abomination banned, there is no mention of it in the q’oran and as such is not a religious requirement, just as the Sikh’s had to wear crash helmets despite claiming Turbans were part of their religion.