Can't have those Hordies get all organized and leave our stuff in a mess. Let's get organized here! Several people posted interest, but some signed up on the Horde one, so for sake of clarity, anyone interested, please post with what class-spec combo(s) you're interested in joining the Alliance one:

Might be. We'll see how the thing evolves and if necessary will open a subforum.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

I have set a time and a date in the OP. If everyone who is interested can please PM me with what they'd like to bring, your battlenet ID and an armory link (just so we can all see where we are at).

Also if you can raid lead please do nominate yourself! I don't know how necessary that is but I guess it can't hurt especially if you have cleared the instance on normal already by the time this starts.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

I've committed my main to a guild run and i simply don't have any alts beyond even 500ilvl. I may join this in the future but getting upto 520ivl for flex is an ask unless you have an organized alt run.

I'm assuming SoO flex is tuned around fully ToT LFR geared char, as tuning it on full normal would essentially cut out most of the playerbase it's meant for.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

I'm assuming SoO flex is tuned around fully ToT LFR geared char, as tuning it on full normal would essentially cut out most of the playerbase it's meant for.

Same here, at least for the first wing, though I expect that to be quite a tight fit, making it decently hard enough to kill the bosses with that gear level, so the increase in gear from LFR/World Bosses/Valor upgrades/Timeless Isle will make the content easier over time.

Flex wrote:Pretty sure the item level scaling for Flex testing was 496 early wings and 510 later wings.

From the other thread:

Winkle wrote:In other news:

The feedback from Flex PTR testing has made for interesting reading.

Testing was conducted at an ilvl of 522.Testers reported that the raids were more difficult than they were expecting, some groups failed to even clear trash.Watcher commented that he believed the test ilvl was to low and the fights would be more likely balanced for 530 ilvl.They did test the 3rd of 4 parts of the raid mind you, so perhaps its reasonable to assume a 530 ilvl by the time that segment releases.

... the fact that more potential voters are swayed by a few trivial comments 10 years ago than a candidate literally collapsing is not a good sign and tends to indicate that even if Trump wins, it won't matter.

No electorate that stupid is going to survive long, one way or another.

And how exactly do they assume people can get 530 ilvl if Flex is tuned for people who can't even clear normal tot.

theckhd wrote:Fuck no, we've seen what you do to guilds. Just imagine what you could do to an entire country. Just visiting the US might be enough to make the southern states try to secede again.

halabar wrote:Noo.. you don't realize the problem. Worldie was to negative guild breaking energy like Bolvar is to the Scourge. If Worldie is removed, than someone must pick up that mantle, otherwise that negative guild breaking energy will run rampant, destroying all the servers.

Worldie wrote:And how exactly do they assume people can get 530 ilvl if Flex is tuned for people who can't even clear normal tot.

530 for the last half, so I'd imagine somewhere between 515 to 520 for the first half is about right.

That's really easy to get to if you actually play the character - Nalak/OON, VP stuff, H-Scenarios, crafted helm/boots, and the upgrade vendor get you there. Not to mention whatever comes from the new area.

My warrior is at 525-ish for both specs, and has gotten a total of like 3 items from normal ToT. *shrug*

It sounds like it's meant to be "progressed through", not "cleared first week", so you're getting stuff from that at well over time.

... the fact that more potential voters are swayed by a few trivial comments 10 years ago than a candidate literally collapsing is not a good sign and tends to indicate that even if Trump wins, it won't matter.

No electorate that stupid is going to survive long, one way or another.