Posted Dec-14-2012 By

celtbrewer

@ClearMud Well, I do think "Crazy People" should be banned.. But other than that - you're listing stuff that are usable for other things than killing people. Assault weapons, not so much.

I'm saving my thoughts for the Sunday discussion I think. And no - I'm not Sweden, I'm from Sweden but I am an individual and think this is an interesting question/debate if it's possible to hold the debate on a higher level.
I do believe in statistics. But I don't believe banning guns in America wMore..ould be a good thing - mostly because I don't think you can "undo" that freedom successfully.

Posted Dec-14-2012 By

celtbrewer

Posted Dec-14-2012 By

hotjobz

Imagine the United States were dissolved into 50 separate countries. Mass murders would be unheard of in most countries. But because it's one country, it seems like it happens every day. It doesn't. People need to accept that in an affluent country, crazies have the means to hurt a lot of people. It just doesn't happen very often, fortunately. No changes to the laws or to society are needed.

Posted Dec-14-2012 By

livewire242

I know the US is big on guns. And no matter how I say it, I'm sure I'll get a down vote or 20. But I'll leave you with this...

I don't own a gun. I've never even held one. Don't ever care too.

Consider the following.

I'll walk my walk in life everyday knowing that at some point, I might run into a situation that having a gun to protect myself or family/friends would be a really handy thing to have.

But I'll trade that in a heart beat, to live each day to its fullest and not live in fear EAMore..CH AND EVERYDAY.

Everyday you handle a gun for protection, you remind yourself of something that COULD happen. A fear of what would happen if you had to use it, what if you did... was it just? What if something goes wrong, what if your kids get a hold of it...

I'm sorry (that's a Canadian joke btw). But really, all this "these are my guns and you can't take them away from me" posts that people keep posting about are laughable to me. Go outside, enjoy your day. I'll take my chances of living without the need of a weapon to make me feel safer, as it rips away every aspect of what makes the USA and Canada great. I relatively safe place to live.

So I might end up on LL shot one day on CC Camera, but I'll take that over being scared all my life. Say what you want, at the end of the day that's all it is. Do guns kill people, or their owners? It doesn't matter if its the gun OR the owner. At the end of the day you can 100% live life as a victim, or a very small chance to die a victim but enjoy your life 100% without fear.

This is the only choice you have to make.

Sadly, no matter what we do. Give everyone a gun or take all the guns away. Things like these sad events at schools, malls and who knows what else will always happen. This sadly won't be the last and it can not be stopped.

No simple fix, less we are willing to allow our generation of kids to grow up in gated schools with metal detectors and armed guards at the school doors. Lock them down. Is this how you want our generation of kids to grow up? Gone are the days of marbles and playing for keepsy.

Anyway, food for thought. Take it or feed it to the dog under the table. Just my viewsLess..

Posted Dec-15-2012 By

fobfob77

I don't know cannoli you say that cc wouldn't have been helpful in OR or CO because of crossfire. I would be happier(not that getting shot is what you would pick)to catch a stray bullet from someone shooting back as opposed to waiting and praying the shooter kills someone else.
I know that this is a serious post but all I can think of when I watch you is "Hand me the uzi, you didn't think I was rolling out here naked"

Posted Dec-14-2012 By

BlackJack Jonny

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@Bthor420 i can understand people owning guns for whatever reason what is strange to me and the rest of the western world is americans need and want to be armed all the time.we have crime in australia but i have never felt the need to strap on a glock 9 to go take a walk .

Posted Dec-14-2012 By

dr tipple

The discussion that needs to take place should be about mental health and not about gun ownership or gun laws. The common denominator in most of the mass killings recently is young males who are mentally disturbed, deranged, psychotic, etc. Our politicians as well as the mainstream media become obsessed with going after the lawful gun owners but fail to address the real problem in the America.

Posted Dec-15-2012 By

jagcmos

I don't buy the simple minded "he was just a psycho" line. I think we need to figure out how and why this happens. It is disappointing how little is done to study this type of behavior. Meanwhile we keep suffering without a solution. And I am NOT going to ever support locking down our schools with armed guards like you know big brother would love.

Posted Dec-14-2012 By

StormRising

You do not get chaos and everybody shooting at everybody when someone draws a weapon to stop an attacker. You do however suddenly gain their attention and prevent more loss of life and stand a chance at stopping the event before it gets worst. It is undeniable a weapon used in defense concealed or not would have changed the outcome of each and every public shooting in history.

Posted Dec-14-2012 By

StormRising

@StormRising I'm not convinced the 20 year old guy with mental issues really thinks twice about his massacre because somebody he's shooting at might shoot back. Most of these cowards kill themselves. So then, where's the deterrent? It doesn't matter in his sick and twisted mind. If mental health is the #1 issue here (which I believe it is) they aren't in their right mind enough to care who tries to stop them.

Posted Dec-15-2012 By

The_Stressman

@The_Stressman At that point, the weapon is not about being a deterent. It is about saving your life and others. Plain and simple. Over thinking the fact a gun IS self defense will only lead to not defending yourself in time.

Posted Dec-15-2012 By

StormRising

@StormRising I'm all for guns. But I'm also for understanding the mind of the mentally deranged. They aren't weighing shooting up a shopping mall versus not shooting up a shopping mall because somebody might be armed. That's all I'm saying. That kind of calculated decision making process isn't part of the equation when you're dealing with someone who is hearing voices in their head.

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Posted Dec-15-2012 By

stixtoo

I have one gun for hunting fowl, one for big game, one for home defense and one for target shooting.

I feel for those that lost their lives yesterday. I cant imagine getting a call to come pick up your child at school and not find them in the crowd...

I know the anti gun people will be raising hell. Hell will be raised when the citizens don't have the power to defend themselves against the people who done care about laws... Or dont care about that school full of children...