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Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

yay, user of Shadows having alternate personality, the so called Dark Side that is far more powerful than the user that doesn't use his Dark Side and if the user let's his Dark Side take control, he becomes super strong, but pretty much doesn't control himself,...way too original

Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

Meh, didn't like this chapter much. The first half was something we already confirmed weeks ago, that there are quite a few flaws with with Future Lucy is saying and that or she is lying or someone messed with her head. It wasn't something new. Only in the end started it to get interesting.

Originally Posted by Migualon J.J.

yay, user of Shadows having alternate personality, the so called Dark Side that is far more powerful than the user that doesn't use his Dark Side and if the user let's his Dark Side take control, he becomes super strong, but pretty much doesn't control himself,...way too original

Originally Posted by MarkPaul

Rogue's shadow is a badass. Before I want him to join Fairytail but now, I doubt he'll fit with his shadow.

Am I the only one who thinks that it's simply someone else who is influencing Rogue? Because for some reason several people instantly assumed that his shadow has got a will of its own, but is a part of Rogue. To me that looks more far-fetched than just someone trying to influence the outcome of the Grand Magic Games.

Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

Originally Posted by Caliburn

Am I the only one who thinks that it's simply someone else who is influencing Rogue? Because for some reason several people instantly assumed that his shadow has got a will of its own, but is a part of Rogue. To me that looks more far-fetched than just someone trying to influence the outcome of the Grand Magic Games.

Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

What if that shadow is actually his dragon, who allowed Rogue to kill him and put his conciousness and some power I suppose in Rogue's shadow o-o it was a shadow dragon after all.. sounds a little far-fetched though if I say so myself =/

Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

Originally Posted by Migualon J.J.

this seems more crazy for me tho

It's more crazy to think that an outside person is mindraping Rogue, something that has been done before (Ultear completely messed up Jellal) than his own shadow starting to converse with him, trying to turn him into a psychopath?

Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

Nothing new this week. Future Lucy stinks...we all had noticed it. Either she's lying or she's a Fake. I'm point more to the former. She isn't Lucy. My theory is that its someone impersonating Lucy. And I'll explain why... I had like a flashback today and an idea formed in my mind.

Dragons can't be in the normal world. If they were, someone would have stumbled across them. Its not like a whole species of gigantic magical flying lizards can hide in plain sight. So, they are somewhere else. My thoughts? The Celestial Realm. Where the spirits come from. The Eclipse Gate is what will bring them to this dimension/realm. The Eclipse gate is not the salvation but the path through which dragons will return. The future lucy is either a mage in disguise, a puppet made by magic or something else. The purpose of her role is clear: get people to make the gate, charge it up with magic and in the special time, opening it. I mean, its a gate to the celestial world... How can that defend against 10k dragons or do much to prevent the catastrophe that she says is coming? Build a weapon, ok. But a gate using the celestial keys? doesn't add up. And this inconsistencies in her statements make me be certain she isn't a lucy but a fake. I'd return to my idea of it being Zeref in disguise but Zeref never saw Lucy and never had any contact with lucy so why would he disguise as her? Still, Eclipse gate will be used to bring the dragons back...not to save anyone. Its possible that future lucy can even be a dragon left behind to ensure that one day dragons could return if acnologia made its appaerance or something of that type.

Basically, I never understood how the eclipse gate can be used to save the world/town and now that we know its against 10k dragons (supposedly, because if they were brought to the brink of extinction by humans during the war...weird that 10k still exist...anywho) and that lucy future lucy is inconsistent... it makes even less sense that a salvation can come from a gate which we still don't know what it does apart from the need to use the celestial keys. These are key that open celestial gates through which spirits come...so...12 means either a bigger door or a bigger spirit used by the 12 together...but this later option doesn't make sense when we already met the ubber spirit and such. So, yeah...rambling now.

Its clear that mister shadow dragon slayer is being manipulated. The use of an alternate conscience inside a character is not much something we associate with FT. And in him would have little point. Will he join FT? I think that he and whity will probably consider joining but i see them more as making their own guild rather than joining FT.

Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

Originally Posted by Caliburn

Meh, didn't like this chapter much. The first half was something we already confirmed weeks ago, that there are quite a few flaws with with Future Lucy is saying and that or she is lying or someone messed with her head. It wasn't something new. Only in the end started it to get interesting.

Am I the only one who thinks that it's simply someone else who is influencing Rogue? Because for some reason several people instantly assumed that his shadow has got a will of its own, but is a part of Rogue. To me that looks more far-fetched than just someone trying to influence the outcome of the Grand Magic Games.

you are not alone. I too think it's someone else who is doing it. maybe Zeref? it should be about time he appears in some form.

Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

An army of 10.000 dragons, umm. At the dragon's graveyard that Jade Dragon told them that Acnologia slain most of the dragons. So I doubt there are 10.000 dragons in the world left. And I believe that eclipse have not been used yet, so maybe there is magic that can walk through time except eclipse, or even other godlike wizards like Zeref.
One of my theories is that eclipse have been used in the future to go back in time and meet Acnologia / Zeref or some other yet unknown great wizards.
Rogue's shadow is also most likely an telepathy magic bound to him/his magic by some strong wizard that isn't very known yet.

Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

Originally Posted by Scorps

Nothing new this week. Future Lucy stinks...we all had noticed it. Either she's lying or she's a Fake. I'm point more to the former. She isn't Lucy. My theory is that its someone impersonating Lucy. And I'll explain why... I had like a flashback today and an idea formed in my mind.

Dragons can't be in the normal world. If they were, someone would have stumbled across them. Its not like a whole species of gigantic magical flying lizards can hide in plain sight. So, they are somewhere else. My thoughts? The Celestial Realm. Where the spirits come from. The Eclipse Gate is what will bring them to this dimension/realm. The Eclipse gate is not the salvation but the path through which dragons will return. The future lucy is either a mage in disguise, a puppet made by magic or something else. The purpose of her role is clear: get people to make the gate, charge it up with magic and in the special time, opening it. I mean, its a gate to the celestial world... How can that defend against 10k dragons or do much to prevent the catastrophe that she says is coming? Build a weapon, ok. But a gate using the celestial keys? doesn't add up. And this inconsistencies in her statements make me be certain she isn't a lucy but a fake. I'd return to my idea of it being Zeref in disguise but Zeref never saw Lucy and never had any contact with lucy so why would he disguise as her? Still, Eclipse gate will be used to bring the dragons back...not to save anyone. Its possible that future lucy can even be a dragon left behind to ensure that one day dragons could return if acnologia made its appaerance or something of that type.

Basically, I never understood how the eclipse gate can be used to save the world/town and now that we know its against 10k dragons (supposedly, because if they were brought to the brink of extinction by humans during the war...weird that 10k still exist...anywho) and that lucy future lucy is inconsistent... it makes even less sense that a salvation can come from a gate which we still don't know what it does apart from the need to use the celestial keys. These are key that open celestial gates through which spirits come...so...12 means either a bigger door or a bigger spirit used by the 12 together...but this later option doesn't make sense when we already met the ubber spirit and such. So, yeah...rambling now.

Its clear that mister shadow dragon slayer is being manipulated. The use of an alternate conscience inside a character is not much something we associate with FT. And in him would have little point. Will he join FT? I think that he and whity will probably consider joining but i see them more as making their own guild rather than joining FT.

my exact thoughts as well. The chapter pretty much showed how dumb natsu is and sadly how everything based around lucy despite being the main character is pretty lame. I wonder what role the pumpkin plays in this.

Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

Originally Posted by Tybone

What if that shadow is actually his dragon, who allowed Rogue to kill him and put his conciousness and some power I suppose in Rogue's shadow o-o it was a shadow dragon after all.. sounds a little far-fetched though if I say so myself =/

Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

Originally Posted by RayzanJang

An army of 10.000 dragons, umm. At the dragon's graveyard that Jade Dragon told them that Acnologia slain most of the dragons. So I doubt there are 10.000 dragons in the world left. And I believe that eclipse have not been used yet, so maybe there is magic that can walk through time except eclipse, or even other godlike wizards like Zeref.
One of my theories is that eclipse have been used in the future to go back in time and meet Acnologia / Zeref or some other yet unknown great wizards.
Rogue's shadow is also most likely an telepathy magic bound to him/his magic by some strong wizard that isn't very known yet.

Not if the original dragon population was way larger than just 10k. Also I think dragons need sexy time too >.> the dragon purge was several centuries ago.

Originally Posted by Tybone

What if that shadow is actually his dragon, who allowed Rogue to kill him and put his conciousness and some power I suppose in Rogue's shadow o-o it was a shadow dragon after all.. sounds a little far-fetched though if I say so myself =/

Could be, though that would be one quite messed up dragon. Igneel once referred to Rogue's dragon, saying what the dragon slayer he made would be capable of or something along those lines. So based on that it seems that all the dragon parents are more or less 'on the same side', which would make it weird for Skaldrun (I think that was his name) to make his own 'son', the 'son' that 'killed' him, kill the apprentice of another dragon.

Btw no one has yet to mention what Rogue said about Sting, that he 'awakened' .-. sounds very ominous.

Re: Fairy Tail Manga 317 Discussion and 318 Predictions

Originally Posted by Caliburn

Not if the original dragon population was way larger than just 10k. Also I think dragons need sexy time too >.> the dragon purge was several centuries ago.

Could be, though that would be one quite messed up dragon. Igneel once referred to Rogue's dragon, saying what the dragon slayer he made would be capable of or something along those lines. So based on that it seems that all the dragon parents are more or less 'on the same side', which would make it weird for Skaldrun (I think that was his name) to make his own 'son', the 'son' that 'killed' him, kill the apprentice of another dragon.

Btw no one has yet to mention what Rogue said about Sting, that he 'awakened' .-. sounds very ominous.

I supposed he just referred to power Sting gained when he was overwhelmed by anger and killed his Master.. that could be some sort of awakening lol.