The Seadogs game runs fine for me as well, I'm using Firefox Quantum 59.0.2, I know that extensions or addons to browsers can sometimes cause the games to not work. On a previous installation, I had to disable Ad Blockers NoScript and stuff to get games to run properly.

I've had this small-form-factor desktop for three weeks, but hadn't given a thought to the Flash Player until now; my two recent harddrives are in USB enclosures serving as potential backups, and I know that flashplayer 22-something was on both of them (but no longer; where the hell did they go?). Plus, I guess I took for granted that a freshly installed Win7 would come with flash (wrong, apparently)

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Originally Posted by Ike Savage

Also IIRC, weren't you logging in from a library these days, Gregg?

Affirmative. Remember my thread about lagging/irregular plunger and flippers last November 1st? The last time the asphyxiating computer booted to Windows (and an internet connection) was Jan 19; that sent me to the Library until March 12th, when I threw my hands in the air and ordered this Hewlitt-Packard Elite 8000, which I received Mar 20th - at which time I found that my internet service had gone out Jan 20th, and wasn't restored until Mar 28th.

Hopefully, no more library for a few years unless I need to use a printer!

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Originally Posted by Ike Savage

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if those PC's were configured with some custom security one wouldn't ordinarily see or expect. That might have been causing the various redirects you were seeing.

All I know so far is that the 8200 and up have UEFI (not BIOS), with which one can install a late GFX card like a 1050Ti - while the 8000 I bought does not, and can accept only a GT 730 or Radeon HD 6x50 or thereabouts.

So, anyway, SeaDogs are barking away and I need to shake off some rust before I can find out whether score submission works. Thanks, gang!

Yup. Sickening, ain't it? Along with other weird crap my XP machine was doing, it could no longer catch missed TV episodes, or even play some YouTube videos; telling me to install Flash even when I had just done so for the umpteenth time...

But flash is famously no longer going to be directly supported by Adobe, cum 2020. HTML5 is mostly seen as the direct replacement. And Chrome no longer allows you to run SWF objects directly (like FF still does), and so all these little SWF games and animations I've been collecting for many years have a nebulous future.

Now I suppose there'll *always* be some kind of player maintained by someone... it's just that part of the reason flash is being abandoned is because of security holes, so at the same time, playing with SWF objects could also get kind of risky. For example, they're not hard to decompile and modify, so theoretically a classic game you find on the net could also contain malicious code. And if the official supported is no longer concerned with security, then... potential problem.

Do security suites, etc, scan those high-risk amusements, or are we 'on our own'...?

That's another very good question.

I imagine the scanners are protecting us for the time-being, but... past 2020? When even Adobe is of little use / help? When everyone is supposed to know that "Flash is an infectious corpse?" (so to speak)