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Fisher & the lack of offense

You stack the box, you open up your defense over the top by removing your safeties from deep coverage. We'll beat you deep if you do that.

Yes. Really. Because he got open to drop that TD. And I seem to recall him making a 73 yard catch. He was also open deep on the play where Stacy blew the blitz pick-up on Mikell leading to a pick six. Stop being a wet blanket.

If we run the ball, we can throw it on those teams with Sam. As long as we protect him.

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Givens burned those corners his rookie year - since then, Sherman has only grown while Givens regressed. BTW, the 2 td's Givens had his rookie season vs arizona both came against Toller, whom was cut that off season and signed with the Colts (who later had one of the worst pass defenses, common theme here?). By the way - a lot of those pics that were posted weren't from last season.

The fact that people talk about rookies not having big impacts yet Tavon played nearly half as many snaps and easily outproduced givens. So when people say rookies don't immediate impacts and one does - either we struck gold, or the rookie's talent level surpasses the incumbents (by a mile in this case).

I still can't believe the Rams never chose to the address the position thus far at all..jordan matthews, lee, montecrief - plenty of wide receivers that i think are instant upgrades or great chances at end up being a starter. They'd have as much competition as Greg Robinson would for guard

Givens burned those corners his rookie year - since then, Sherman has only grown while Givens regressed. BTW, the 2 td's Givens had his rookie season vs arizona both came against Toller, whom was cut that off season and signed with the Colts (who later had one of the worst pass defenses, common theme here?). By the way - a lot of those pics that were posted weren't from last season.

The fact that people talk about rookies not having big impacts yet Tavon played nearly half as many snaps and easily outproduced givens. So when people say rookies don't immediate impacts and one does - either we struck gold, or the rookie's talent level surpasses the incumbents (by a mile in this case).

I still can't believe the Rams never chose to the address the position thus far at all..jordan matthews, lee, montecrief - plenty of wide receivers that i think are instant upgrades or great chances at end up being a starter. They'd have as much competition as Greg Robinson would for guard

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Speed is speed.

The Rams made the right decision taking Joyner...especially over Lee. And Moncrief has VERY inconsistent hands.

I wouldn't argue that Givens had a bad year last season, but I don't think that means we should just pretend he's a lost cause. He admitted it himself, last year he didn't take the right approach, thought he was just going to be fine doing what he did, and it backfired. This offseason he listened to older guys who knew what he should do, worked hard, and looked to actively improve. We will see how it works out when the season starts, but from the sound of things he's approaching it the right way.

I wouldn't argue that Givens had a bad year last season, but I don't think that means we should just pretend he's a lost cause. He admitted it himself, last year he didn't take the right approach, thought he was just going to be fine doing what he did, and it backfired. This offseason he listened to older guys who knew what he should do, worked hard, and looked to actively improve. We will see how it works out when the season starts, but from the sound of things he's approaching it the right way.

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But I wouldn't ignore the position either - just like people think Long can't stay healthy, i don't think its realistic to expect givens to suddenly morph into a receiver he hasn't even shown flashes of being. Pretty sure a general consensus on him is that he's a one trick pony/complimentary receiver, a #4 type... Not a starter.

But I wouldn't ignore the position either - just like people think Long can't stay healthy, i don't think its realistic to expect givens to suddenly morph into a receiver he hasn't even shown flashes of being. Pretty sure a general consensus on him is that he's a one trick pony/complimentary receiver, a #4 type... Not a starter.

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They didn't ignore the position, they got Britt. In all honesty, at this point I have a hard time seeing any of the receivers left being better than Britt for us next year. Britt isn't a long term option, obviously, but given needs elsewhere, he's a good stopgap.

They didn't ignore the position, they got Britt. In all honesty, at this point I have a hard time seeing any of the receivers left being better than Britt for us next year. Britt isn't a long term option, obviously, but given needs elsewhere, he's a good stopgap.

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seriously? Britt? They can cut him for less than $150k after camp, assuming he makes it...

I just wouldn't rely on a guy who hasn't produced in several years and met the bench early in the season, for the rest of the season... people say rookies don't make an impact all the time - then i'm not sure I want the guy who the rookie replaces; least i'm not gonna rely on him to start. Nothin more than a camp body at this point