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JurassicPark

lol i’m a girl and never in my life have i seen negging work on anyone ever usually the response is kind of like ‘ok…?’ and thinking you’re a weird loser. but by all means continue…

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1 year ago

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Jay

GiWow talk about taken out of context.. Listen we are not doing this to hurt them. Everyone has there bad of tricks get them s somewhere. Such as smiling to get someone else to smile or ignoring someone to get there attention. Not every has a strong mentality when someone ignores them. But what everyone knows that all of this ties down to egos. Of course women are probably not going agree on this. You can extremely attracted to someone and spill your heart out to them..but the second you disrespect them its “GO TIME”. I agree some guys take… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Grow up or die alone

ha! what a piece of shit

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2 years ago

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Just so you know, most of these comments you’re getting aren’t “nasty”. Many of them are simply logically trying to explain to you the profound error of your ways.
And so what if a few commentators couldn’t control their anger at reading an absurd article that promotes misogynistic behavior(however subtle it may be)? As far as I’m concerned you deserve every bit of hate mail that you are receiving. I hope that you actually allow some of these comments to sink into your thick skull so you finally realize why your “negging” technique is so wrong.

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5 years ago

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HAHAHA

Negging =

Ned Flanders’ dad: “I’ve tried nothing and I’m all out of ideas.”

And to quote from the show created by noted misogynist Seth MacFarlane :

Greg: Straight women don’t ask for much, do they?
Stan: They really don’t. Just use coasters now and again and don’t whiz in the shower on her birthday.

Somehow, I just doubt having really low standards is the best way to start relationship with anyone of quality.

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5 years ago

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The Canadian perspective

This is ridiculous. If someone said I had lint in my hair I’d probably say “Oh, thanks” and take it out. It doesn’t knock me down a peg or anything but I know it would upset many women. And why do you assume that all “beautiful” women are bitches? You don’t know them, you don’t know what their life is like. Just because a girl wears a short skirt doesn’t mean she’s a tramp or whatever. Stop being so surface and quick to judge. And why would you rate women on a 1 to 10 scale? I lost all faith… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Anonymous

No one who’s defending “negging” seems to realize the language they’re using. It’s full of “bringing her down a level” and “don’t let her have any power” and “dominate”, creepy things like that. You all can repeat to yourselves that this behavior isn’t misogynistic (although someone BEING misogynistic doesn’t get to tell people who are EFFECTED by misogyny what is or isn’t misogynistic -you do not get to define others’ experiences as it doesn’t effect you) but when you speak like this about women, it’s obviously that that’s not true. You’re talking like honest to god predators. And that’s not… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Grow up or die alone

yess,, spot on. what the fuck.

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2 years ago

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Random Bystander

I’d like to add that there is no such thing as a hot girl. Your conception of “the hot girl” is fueled by the media and what they claim is attractive. If the media popularized your idea of a “fat girl” then that would be the more popular look. Referring to girls as hot or fat is rude, since everyone is attractive in their own way. You can not judge someone’s weight based on how they talk online. You can’t even base it on how they look. A 135 pound woman can carry her weight very differently from another woman… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Morgan

This is petty bullshit that perpetuates shitty stereotypes about ‘daddy’s girls’ and ‘nice guys’. If a girl fucking rejects you, just leave her alone. She doesn’t owe you her time, especially if you going to be an immature jackass about it.

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5 years ago

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Ani

If the only way for you to get laid is through devaluing women, there’s a reason you’re not getting laid in the first place.

It’s cute that you refer to men as human beings while you’re treating women like objects. It must be hard to accept that the reason no woman talks to you is because you are an unattractive douchebag who will never achieve any of the goals they set in life, so I really do offer my sympathy.

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5 years ago

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Anonymous

You’re going to die alone. Enjoy.

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5 years ago

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Anonymous

The author of this article is obviously extremely insecure… If you think you’re so unlikeable that you have to insult a girl in order to get her to pay attention to you, then you need to take a step back and really look at yourself. If you knew what your own positive attributes were, you probably wouldn’t feel the need to point out other people’s flaws.

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5 years ago

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Idontknowenglish

I’m still wondering why I weren’t born as a pigeon.

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5 years ago

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Adrienne

me too, me too

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5 years ago

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Anonymous

Of all the ways to pick up a lady, this has got to be one of the dumbest. You’re being told by actually women that this won’t work, and you still refuse to see how ignorant this is. How about, instead, you treat women like goddamn people. Don’t demean and insult them to get their attention, idiot.

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5 years ago

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anon

you can practically smell the nice guy syndrome here

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5 years ago

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Anonymous

oh my god, you are a major douchebag like seriously if i saw you on the street i would kick you in the balls. like, do you seriously think girls are so shallow that we’ll think “oh he thinks i’m ugly oh my god this is such a huge problem!” girls will take offence if someone says something that makes them seem ugly because we don’t want to be ugly, not because they’re used to every single guy liking them. it doesn’t make you seem better. it just makes you seem like a douchebag. please learn some better flirting techniques… Read more »

OKay so let me just say this… If a girl is pretty its okay to be a douchebag to them? So long as they’re freaking gorgeous you can be as much of an asshole as you want! And the reason girls “pretend like the guy doesn’t even exist” at clubs and such is because you go to clubs to flirt/hook up or just enjoy yourself with your friends. If you’re not interested then BY NO MEANS are you obligated to pretend otherwise. A lot of time in situations like these if you give a guy an inch, he’ll take a… Read more »

Dear Bastards, All of you “nice guys” are cowardly would-be rapists who believe that because you have done something “nice” for a girl you are interested in, that she owes you some sexual favor. You have created a culture which finds plenty of ways to make women feel commercialized and worthless, and forces them to worry about appearances and norms which fit into your pea sized molding of the “desirable woman,” but you wonder why a woman might be put off by being treated as some machine which you input your so called “niceness” and receive some variety of pleasure… Read more »

Oh man this site is comedic GOLD. I so will use this next time I think a girl deserves to have their self-esteem knocked down inadvertently because of my remarks. No. Stop. Seriously if you think this shit is worth doing it on a girl, none the less a woman, then you have most likely won yourself ‘Douche of The Year’ because no woman wants to be put down because of her looks or anything like that. And please, do NOT get me on this ‘Nice Guy’ bullshit, I have had ENOUGH of that. Women shouldn’t be put into awkward… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Mark

<3

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5 years ago

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Mandy

From the opinion of an actually attractive girl, the reply is completely different. I feel like the girls commenting are not the ones “negging” even applies to. I know this works. Guys that are not a challenge are boring, I don’t even pay attention to them when they come over with their overused pickup lines. It doesn’t hurt your feelings, it puts you in check. I spend the entire time having an ego boost from the idiots that tried and failed but it’s a waste if no one comes and creates a challenge. After a while you start to notice… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Suzanne

And you’d rather have that than someone who would just skip mindgames and just want to get to know you? I mean I know you think you’re hot shit and the world just bows to your every whim-

You know what? Fuck it, whatever, go breed with one of these bastards and create the next Stalin, see how that goes.

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5 years ago

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Adrienne

Maybe you enjoy it, but most girls would not. That’s fine! You can’t help what you enjoy. But men should realize that they need to take time to get to know the girl before they try something like that, definitely not right off the bat.

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5 years ago

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Anonymous

This is complete bullshit.

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5 years ago

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Anonymous

Ahahahaha, yeah, insulting people before trying to fuck them is TOTALLY gonna work. I’m glad don’t bother going to the shitholes where fucks like you crawl.

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5 years ago

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Anonymous

as a “hot girl” who sometimes is “negged” i’m sorry to say dudes but it doesn’t work. it’s embarrassing for you because it shows how insecure you are, and there’s no one i “blow off” quicker than a dude who negs.

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5 years ago

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Phoenix

So I did a quick research look up and pulled two articles:
Pick-Up lines: To Use a Neg or a Flippant? (Hendon, 2012)
and
An Evolutionary Perspective on Effective vs. Ineffective Pick-up Lines (Senko & Fyffe, 2010)

Guess what both found? Yeah, “neg” pick-up lines are the least likely to get you even a conversation.

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5 years ago

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K

Wow, I love how the last comments are all putting this whole thing down and none or the “dude-bros” are crawling out of the woodwork to defend themselves.

Either the rest abandoned the jerk who wrote this, or they got bored of being wrong OR (and probably the case) the dude-bros/”Nice Guys” moved on to other places (to be assholes there too).

I’m glad people didn’t just let this crap fly.

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5 years ago

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Phoenix

The point is not the fact that the statements are said in a “playful” way. It’s the fact that you feel the need to “bring her down to your level.” And how do you tell if a girl’s only used to guys kissing her ass? Is there a certain look? Is there some tattoo written across their foreheads? No, and there shouldn’t be. Yeah, some girls can be snobby but think about it this way: if some guy came walking up to you while you were trying to hang out with your friends would you want to be nice to… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Goddamn Upset with Misogynistic Bullshit

Regardless of how a woman may look or behave, subjecting her to negative commentary in order to stimulate approval-seeking behavior by exploiting her insecurities is BULLYING. It’s demeaning, it’s harassment. Any man who uses this technique deserves the loneliness that drove him to it. How about, start treating women with respect (no, respect doesn’t mean “ass-kissing” dipshit) as if they’re (gasp) people. Intelligent, kind, beautiful people are drawn to each other. So be intelligent, kind, and beautiful in all the ways that matter. And if someone doesn’t notice you or like you, hey. Their loss. Move on and find someone… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Anonymous

Wow. Not only was this utterly despicable, but the alleged “Nice Guy” has reared its ugly head! I’ve stumbled upon a true gem here! Here’s a quick lesson on why claims that men have it so much worse in the dating scene (or in general) are, to put it lightly, bullshit: you think we somehow owe you something — namely sex — as compensation for, what? Being polite? Restraining yourself from assaulting your date in the back alley? Congratulations asshole, you have imitated the behavior of a decent human being! But no, you assure me, I’ve got it all wrong!… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Wow I hate like 95% of you

What if I just murdered you. WOULD YOUR NEGGING WORK THEN

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5 years ago

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Jo

how many nice guys does it take to screw in a light bulb? who knows, they’ll just act nice and get pissed when it wont screw

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5 years ago

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Sam

Negging just seems stupid. No woman gets only positive attention from men, no man ever gets only positive attention from women. Even playfully using this is enough to hurt someone, you don’t know why they’re so closed off. Maybe its because they don’t have any confidence and negging just makes it worse for them. I don’t think negging is the way to get any positive attention from anyone, it’s just stupid

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5 years ago

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milli

So this is supposed to work in club setting and I’m a 22 yr old living in a pretty club-centered city (Miami). Now, I’ve had this done to me countless times and let me tell you, nothing shuts me or my friends down faster than a guy approaching us with rude comments. Whether this works on other girls, I don’t know. I’ve never seen negging work, is all I’m saying. Negs have included crap like: *Tugs a strand* “Wow, you should cut your hair.” “You’re short even with those heels on!” “This isn’t the dance floor, come I’ll show you… Read more »

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5 years ago

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JulesKD

You’re a sociopathic asshole of the highest order. I’m pretty sure there was a Criminal Minds episode about you.

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5 years ago

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Anonymous

Your and asshole. I mean there’s not much more than that to say.

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5 years ago

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really

women are not obligated to greet every dumb fuck who enters a nightclub
just like men don’t have to respond to every woman that comes up to them

pointing out a woman’s insecurities in order to get her to sleep with you because she’s highly attractive and therefore must be egotistical is the epitome of compensating for your small dicks and own inner inferiority.

your mother must be so proud.

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5 years ago

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Brittany

To the “nice guys finish last” argument – nice people don’t expect constant reward for their deeds. Also, just because some men are kind doesn’t mean I’m obligated to go out with every gentle encounter I come across. Secondly, I have no idea how you can post “Negging women is ideal for really hot girls – 8s, 9s, and 10s. For an average girl (6s, 7s), you don’t want to use value zingers” and not expect a violent backlash. Not only is this ragingly sexist (a word which I don’t fling around) but totally demeaning. Chances are that most of… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Goddamn Upset with Misogynistic Bullshit

“”The world doesn’t owe you a pretty girlfriend”
“Be nice to people because it’s the right thing to fucking do.”

So fucking poignant. You rock.

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5 years ago

Guest

not quite a 9 or 10 but ah well

Sorry, typed on my phone…

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5 years ago

Guest

not quite a 9 or 10 but ah well

I wouldn’t say I’m particularly attractive, i’ve done some modelling and get some attention but i wouldn’t say i was a 9 or 10. I am of two opinions about negging. Some of the negs mentioned above are a little creepy… And i think it can very easily be abused by some guys who either don’t get it or do get it and just want to use it to get laid by airheads and silly girls that it would work on (just because you’ve been negged doesn’t mean you fall into this catagory, but maybe that tiny dress and tonnes… Read more »

Negging would work on me. I’m fine with the way I look, I respect myself, I’d never do anything against my own morals and I can hold my own, but if someone was to come up to me and use any of those lines i’d probably work, well i’d at least talk to them for a while etc.
It would work because I probably neg guys out too. I don’t call it that, but I’m sarcastic and blunt and a bit of an asshole, which is why I like guys who can dish it as much as they can take it.

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5 years ago

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Goddamn Upset with Misogynistic Bullshit

Then you deserve each other.

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5 years ago

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Az

Yeah, love how you people keep putting “nice guys” in quotes because it shows that you are, in fact, NOT a nice guy. A nice guy wouldn’t use a neg against a woman. If a woman blows you off, forget about her, she wasn’t interested and lowering her self worth isn’t going to make a damn bit of difference except show how pathetic a “nice guy” like you is. A real nice guy would get that she’s not interested and move on, not start treating women like shit because of it. Let’s reverse the situation for a second: If a… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Justin Race

This is disgustingly demeaning to women. To all guys reading this who looking to find a partner: do not neg those you seek to relate to! Treat her like a human being. Not a prize to be won.

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5 years ago

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Goddamn Upset with Misogynistic Bullshit

Yes!

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5 years ago

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poehler

In the rebuttal section you imply that it is unfair for men to experience rejection from women they want to sleep with. Aside from the fact that sleeping with a person is not the be-all and end-all of relationships or women’s interests, you missing the REAL truth of why women reject women; they are avoiding rape. Now you’re probably thinking that’s ridiculous because you’re not a rapist and not all men are rapists and that’s very unfair to your poor hurt feelings etc etc (although using false pretenses to get into a girl’s pants is pretty rapey and totally despicable).… Read more »

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5 years ago

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Adrienne

Who cares if negging works to get a girl? Why is everyone’s problem about whether it works? I wish to God all girls, no matter what their looks, were able to realize that any boy who treats you this way isn’t worth going after. But there ARE girls who will get won over by this. And I’m glad there are men out there who realize this is a huge waste of time. Men, if you work hard in life and find a steady job, you’ll get girls. You will. That’s honestly one of the biggest turn-ons there is. You don’t… Read more »

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