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The White Value System - - RIDERZ,
I for one, nor any posts that I read were against "black values". You speak of a 70's mentality, however teh video I posted of Wright was from THIS YEAR 2008.
On a side note, I have also been stocking up on ammo and magazines, not just because of the election, but because of the inevitable. I say we invade the Grand Cayman Islands. Only swingers will be allowed

West Jordan Utah???? - - West Jor DEN of Eniquity. I have always wondered how many swingers I am seeing at Target and Walmart on Sundays.

Singles who are married and cheating - - better get a cup of coffee cuz this is gonna be a long read:
there are a few things you have to take into consideration when you decide to be in the swinging lifestyle. i think the biggest thing is finding out if your spouse is into it. most people, i think, go into a relationship knowing what their spouses boundries are. and then there are couples who evolve in their relationship and the more trust they have in their relationship, i would think it would be like a "coming out" of sorts. like..."hey, um...honey...the johnsons next door are having a party this weekend...and we were invited" "Really?" "Yeah, and i hear its one of THOSE kinda parties" "well, honey..we better wear our crotchless underwear" i dunno..something like that..like, at some point you decide that swinging is for you, right? or you go into a relationship knowing that swinging is an option.
buuuuuuuuuuuutttttt...
if you go into a relationship knowing that swinging is definetly not what your spouse is into or in the evolution of your relationship you decide swinging is right for you, and your spouse isnt into it, and under no circumstance is it ok....then, in my humble opinion, you arent in the lifestyle. now, if you come to some sort of open relationship agreement if your spouse isnt into it but agrees to let you get some strange, fine. if you take it upon yourself to sign up for a swinging website behind your spouses back, hook up with couples behind your spouses back, then YOU ARE CHEATING!
if you are cheating, then you are just asking for trouble:
1. you are being dishonest
2. you are bringing your drama into someone elses life whether they know it or not. what happens if the wife finds out and shows up at your house party with a shotgun?
3. what happens if you get an s.t.d.? you bring that home with you to your spouse, and if you have them, your children. even if you use condoms you can still get s.t.d.'s, its happened.
4. when your spouse does find out, and they will...you are humiliating them in front of their friends, family, job...cuz somehow they all find out. that leads me to believe you have no regard for someone elses feelings so why would i want to swing with you?
5. you are giving other single people, male or female, a bad name and reputation.
6. you are giving swingers in general a bad name and reputation.
jenn and i are honest with each other. we are not in a place where we are gonna swing separate, we communicate and talk things out so we have a full understand of where eachother is at, at any given moment. if jenn or i didnt want to swing anymore, or if we wanted a break from it, we talk about it. we arent perfect by any means, but we do our best to consider eachothers feelings in this lifestyle.
we dont invite drama into our lives so i would have to say...no, we dont swing with someone who is cheating on their spouse. we would both suggest that if you feel the need to cheat that you should either talk it out with your spouse and seek external help or if you dont think that will help, you should consider ending the relationship. this is all just our opinion. we know its easier written or said than done. but if you arent happy with your spouse, why would you drag them down with this? communicate..compromise...talk it out..but dont be a cheater, cuz its not cool.
brandon

Meeting Couples - How to approach - We travel a lot and see couples we would be interested in getting with. Since we know of no way to determine if they are swingers does anyone have suggestions how to approach or bring up the subject>
Ralph and Fae

Gym Fantasy - anyone else get turned on while working out? - We go to Gold's in Bountiful and there are some major hotties there. And some of them are swingers! :-)
So fun to get all hot and sweaty and pumped and look over at someone else doing the same and not just imagining them naked but actually knowing what they LOOK like naked. ;-)

Being Polite - - I have found that alot of people do not respond to sent e-mails. I have showed interest in several people and offered to send them to a site that I have some pics posted on. I work with the public and have had several people recognize me from swingers sites and I have lost at least 1 job from posting pics. So I do not put pics up anymore. Please give those of us that can\'t or won\'t put pics up a chance or let us send you a pic by some other means. Sorry I think I may have posted this twice. My computer is shutting down on me .

I see swinger people... - - Swingers are everywhere!!! Its a sexual revolution in the making!!! Not the first in history or the last. So get ready to see some love of many kinds and the minds being more open is not wrong but wiser. Change happens in the best way doing these eras in history. Be prepared to have a wonderful life!!!

Required info for swingers - - lol
Hilarious.

How do we all get started...? - Tell your story how you got started into swinging... - Can't remember dates but about 12 years ago I told my wife that I was poly. I/we had been monogamous for about 18 years with her. SHe had a very bad 1st marriage, had been molested as a teen and had trust issues throughout her life... Then I came along and she knew that I loved her for who she is and was as a person. Well anyway, shortly after that we went to a party of poly people and she spent hours talking to several of the women about what poly was to them and about their experience with it. Besides that I knew early on, when she was about 23, that she was bi or had strong sexual responces to women and female female sex. She refused to acknowlege these feelings becasue she had been raised in a Religion that taught her that it was a SIN. Well we made contact with a couple that were supposed to be poly and that turned out to be a bust. B had jealousy issues about the lady... but was drawn to the guy... That relationship never got off the ground. Well about a year later we found a swingers club and went to one of their socials. One of the staff couples, about our age, spent several hours talking to my wife, B. We were fairly typical 1st timers to the club scene but she was fairly turned on about the whole scene. She let one of the regulars touch her and I encouraged her by just being non jealous... After about 2 socials she was ready to join in but it took sever more before she broke the ice.. B can have an orgasm just dancing with no one other than herself. When this was discovered by several staff members and we went to the hospitality suite after the social, they kind of took advantage of her instant turn on and the next thing she was sitting on someones face and sucking on someones dick. And that's how we got into swinging... And it's been fun ever since.

What is your favorite kind of sex toys? - - We were wondering what everyone's toy of choice is. and also, if anyone has any suggestions on toys, you can pass them along to your fellow swingers. Also, a side topic that I would like to address is when you break up with someone, do you throw away toys you used with that partner?
And yet another side topic, we could talk about toy cleaning and care. Where to get the best deals, what websites or stores in your area do you use? some toys are way pricey, and some toys are dirt cheap.
this also includes bondage gear, special beds (iron beds with loops at strategic places for restraints and whatnot)
this should be a very fun topic!