Kansas State, the BEST team in the Big 12 just lost to an FCS school, which really shouldn't happen ever unless there's some real serious talent deficiency there. The Big 10 is the worst conference, though, amirite?

I've been watching both games and I'd make NDSU at least a 2-TD favorite over Western. Fourth year starter at QB, all five top receivers back from a national championship team, didn't break down on defense against a pretty good FBS opponent, and this is the fourth year in a row they've won their annual FBS game (and they're not playing MAC or Sun Belt teams either).

That's a good team right there. If we had promotion/relegation they'd be in the B1G by now.

team with Heisman Trophy contender Collin Klein on it, who is now gone. KSU overachieved last year, their talent level really isn't that great. They are definatly not the best team in the Big 12 this year.

Regardless of the level NDSU plays at, they are solid and well coached team. They have now knocked off a FBS team four different times.

only be a good unit, not a elite one. Dominating this horrible WMU offense and their backup QB doesn't mean anything. One thing is for sure MSU's offense is god awful, and their defense won't be able to score for their offense against better teams.

I would shocked if they didn't finish with 4-5 losses this year, regardless of what their defense does.