Former Bradford City player Stan Collymore hits out over abuse

Former Bradford City star Stan Collymore has accused Twitter of “not doing enough” to combat abusive tweets on the social networking site after he was targeted by internet trolls.

Police confirmed on Tuesday night they were investigating a series of offensive messages directed at the former England striker after the pundit suggested Liverpool striker Luis Suarez cheated by diving during Saturday’s match against Aston Villa.

Mr Collymore retweeted some of the abuse he has received since the match to his 503,000 followers as he called on Twitter to take action.

He wrote: “In the last 24 hours I’ve been threatened with murder several times, demeaned on my race, and many of these accounts are still active. Why?

“I accuse Twitter directly of not doing enough to combat racist/homophobic/ sexist hate messages, all of which are illegal in the UK.”

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While some of the alleged threats and comments are wrong, isn't he being a bit of a drama queen?

While some of the alleged threats and comments are wrong, isn't he being a bit of a drama queen?Albion.

While some of the alleged threats and comments are wrong, isn't he being a bit of a drama queen?

Score: 8

Michael Clayton says...8:21am Thu 23 Jan 14

Albion. wrote…

While some of the alleged threats and comments are wrong, isn't he being a bit of a drama queen?

The man sees himself as a walking conscience. Rather ironic given some of his past activities. What is worse, I think he welcomes the attention. It goes without saying that personal threats and abuse are completely unacceptable.

[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote:
While some of the alleged threats and comments are wrong, isn't he being a bit of a drama queen?[/p][/quote]The man sees himself as a walking conscience. Rather ironic given some of his past activities.
What is worse, I think he welcomes the attention.
It goes without saying that personal threats and abuse are completely unacceptable.Michael Clayton

Albion. wrote…

While some of the alleged threats and comments are wrong, isn't he being a bit of a drama queen?

The man sees himself as a walking conscience. Rather ironic given some of his past activities. What is worse, I think he welcomes the attention. It goes without saying that personal threats and abuse are completely unacceptable.

Score: 5

Farsley Bantam says...9:06am Thu 23 Jan 14

Albion. wrote…

While some of the alleged threats and comments are wrong, isn't he being a bit of a drama queen?

Exactly. He courts controversy for a living but now he's hiding behind mummy's skirt after a bit of name calling. I agree death threats and racial abuse are wrong and action should be taken but he isn't the man to be making the case. He once threatened to murder his wife and burn her parents' house so I guess real life threats are ok.

[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote:
While some of the alleged threats and comments are wrong, isn't he being a bit of a drama queen?[/p][/quote]Exactly. He courts controversy for a living but now he's hiding behind mummy's skirt after a bit of name calling.
I agree death threats and racial abuse are wrong and action should be taken but he isn't the man to be making the case.
He once threatened to murder his wife and burn her parents' house so I guess real life threats are ok.Farsley Bantam

Albion. wrote…

While some of the alleged threats and comments are wrong, isn't he being a bit of a drama queen?

Exactly. He courts controversy for a living but now he's hiding behind mummy's skirt after a bit of name calling. I agree death threats and racial abuse are wrong and action should be taken but he isn't the man to be making the case. He once threatened to murder his wife and burn her parents' house so I guess real life threats are ok.

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Freddy says...9:29am Thu 23 Jan 14

* I know nothing about "Twitter "--but why does he not remove the whole usage of this facility?. * Does any -one else have troublee using the T & A web site on City/Bantams. A shock-Wave Plug-in keeps failing ( What ever that is. ) The site takes a long time to load all the adverts. It takes even more time to try scrolling down the page etc. No doubt the T & A will say it is my Computer. BUT I do not have any problems on other sites. The T & A site is saturated with adverts, that are a pain in the derriere.!!. *

*
I know nothing about "Twitter "--but why does he not remove the whole usage of this facility?.
*
Does any -one else have troublee using the T & A web site on City/Bantams.
A shock-Wave Plug-in keeps failing ( What ever that is. ) The site takes a long time to load all the adverts. It takes even more time to try scrolling down the page etc.
No doubt the T & A will say it is my Computer. BUT I do not have any problems on other sites. The T & A site is saturated with adverts, that are a pain in the derriere.!!.
*Freddy

* I know nothing about "Twitter "--but why does he not remove the whole usage of this facility?. * Does any -one else have troublee using the T & A web site on City/Bantams. A shock-Wave Plug-in keeps failing ( What ever that is. ) The site takes a long time to load all the adverts. It takes even more time to try scrolling down the page etc. No doubt the T & A will say it is my Computer. BUT I do not have any problems on other sites. The T & A site is saturated with adverts, that are a pain in the derriere.!!. *

Score: 0

alive and awake says...9:39am Thu 23 Jan 14

He is such an Angel isn't he? Stop wasting police time, imagine the police finding time surfing twitter fgs. could be catching burglars. He thinks it is all right for him to call a footballer a cheat, but no one can give him it back. I wouldn't give him the time of day, stop wasting tax payers money with your childish complaints.

He is such an Angel isn't he? Stop wasting police time, imagine the police finding time surfing twitter fgs. could be catching burglars.
He thinks it is all right for him to call a footballer a cheat, but no one can give him it back.
I wouldn't give him the time of day, stop wasting tax payers money with your childish complaints.alive and awake

He is such an Angel isn't he? Stop wasting police time, imagine the police finding time surfing twitter fgs. could be catching burglars. He thinks it is all right for him to call a footballer a cheat, but no one can give him it back. I wouldn't give him the time of day, stop wasting tax payers money with your childish complaints.

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Prisoner Cell Block A says...9:50am Thu 23 Jan 14

Twitter has a block facility, whilst no right minded person would use the forum as a place to spew hate, many do, therefore block/ignore/move on. Any regulation of users is an erosion of free speech and as that is still a right in this country I wouldn't want any 'clamp down' of any kind. Conversely, a group of City fans are/have reported some young Birmingham fans for tweeting about the fire, I actually saw a lot of this exchange and to be fair, the main guy from the City group explained his position, why he finds it so offensive and asked the original poster to remove his picture and comment and apologise. He then received a lot of bluff and bluster with some of the OP's mates joining in and no apology, at which point he informed the OP he would let his college and cricket club know how vile he was and the possible dim view they would take of his actions. At that point it should have been left. I do not think it is a police matter to investigate 'words in a box' no matter how distasteful or vile. Especially when there is the option to avoid being offended by it via a few methods. I was at VP on that fateful day, I tore fences down at the base of the kop so people could reach the pitch easier, it will live with me forever but I do think our freedom to think and speak is as important as our freedom of movement and also not to be caged in at a football match.

Twitter has a block facility, whilst no right minded person would use the forum as a place to spew hate, many do, therefore block/ignore/move on.
Any regulation of users is an erosion of free speech and as that is still a right in this country I wouldn't want any 'clamp down' of any kind.
Conversely, a group of City fans are/have reported some young Birmingham fans for tweeting about the fire, I actually saw a lot of this exchange and to be fair, the main guy from the City group explained his position, why he finds it so offensive and asked the original poster to remove his picture and comment and apologise.
He then received a lot of bluff and bluster with some of the OP's mates joining in and no apology, at which point he informed the OP he would let his college and cricket club know how vile he was and the possible dim view they would take of his actions. At that point it should have been left.
I do not think it is a police matter to investigate 'words in a box' no matter how distasteful or vile. Especially when there is the option to avoid being offended by it via a few methods.
I was at VP on that fateful day, I tore fences down at the base of the kop so people could reach the pitch easier, it will live with me forever but I do think our freedom to think and speak is as important as our freedom of movement and also not to be caged in at a football match.Prisoner Cell Block A

Twitter has a block facility, whilst no right minded person would use the forum as a place to spew hate, many do, therefore block/ignore/move on. Any regulation of users is an erosion of free speech and as that is still a right in this country I wouldn't want any 'clamp down' of any kind. Conversely, a group of City fans are/have reported some young Birmingham fans for tweeting about the fire, I actually saw a lot of this exchange and to be fair, the main guy from the City group explained his position, why he finds it so offensive and asked the original poster to remove his picture and comment and apologise. He then received a lot of bluff and bluster with some of the OP's mates joining in and no apology, at which point he informed the OP he would let his college and cricket club know how vile he was and the possible dim view they would take of his actions. At that point it should have been left. I do not think it is a police matter to investigate 'words in a box' no matter how distasteful or vile. Especially when there is the option to avoid being offended by it via a few methods. I was at VP on that fateful day, I tore fences down at the base of the kop so people could reach the pitch easier, it will live with me forever but I do think our freedom to think and speak is as important as our freedom of movement and also not to be caged in at a football match.

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Prisoner Cell Block A says...10:18am Thu 23 Jan 14

Freddy wrote…

* I know nothing about "Twitter "--but why does he not remove the whole usage of this facility?. * Does any -one else have troublee using the T & A web site on City/Bantams. A shock-Wave Plug-in keeps failing ( What ever that is. ) The site takes a long time to load all the adverts. It takes even more time to try scrolling down the page etc. No doubt the T & A will say it is my Computer. BUT I do not have any problems on other sites. The T & A site is saturated with adverts, that are a pain in the derriere.!!. *

Bring up your task manager Freddy, press ctrl,alt and delete buttons to do this, then scroll through the process list (tab at the top of task mgr) and highlight 'flash player plugin' then click end process. That should speed things up for you slightly.

[quote][p][bold]Freddy[/bold] wrote:
*
I know nothing about "Twitter "--but why does he not remove the whole usage of this facility?.
*
Does any -one else have troublee using the T & A web site on City/Bantams.
A shock-Wave Plug-in keeps failing ( What ever that is. ) The site takes a long time to load all the adverts. It takes even more time to try scrolling down the page etc.
No doubt the T & A will say it is my Computer. BUT I do not have any problems on other sites. The T & A site is saturated with adverts, that are a pain in the derriere.!!.
*[/p][/quote]Bring up your task manager Freddy, press ctrl,alt and delete buttons to do this, then scroll through the process list (tab at the top of task mgr) and highlight 'flash player plugin' then click end process. That should speed things up for you slightly.Prisoner Cell Block A

Freddy wrote…

* I know nothing about "Twitter "--but why does he not remove the whole usage of this facility?. * Does any -one else have troublee using the T & A web site on City/Bantams. A shock-Wave Plug-in keeps failing ( What ever that is. ) The site takes a long time to load all the adverts. It takes even more time to try scrolling down the page etc. No doubt the T & A will say it is my Computer. BUT I do not have any problems on other sites. The T & A site is saturated with adverts, that are a pain in the derriere.!!. *

Bring up your task manager Freddy, press ctrl,alt and delete buttons to do this, then scroll through the process list (tab at the top of task mgr) and highlight 'flash player plugin' then click end process. That should speed things up for you slightly.

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cookie_brighton says...10:30am Thu 23 Jan 14

This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.

This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle.
Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha
P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.cookie_brighton

This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.

Score: 4

Michael Clayton says...11:46am Thu 23 Jan 14

cookie_brighton wrote…

This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.

No matter what you think of Collymore, the comments were unacceptable and it is this kind of nonsense that fuels the whole 'political correctness' agenda. How ironic it is that the very protagonists are then incensed by the 'PC' monster that their actions have created.

[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote:
This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.[/p][/quote]No matter what you think of Collymore, the comments were unacceptable and it is this kind of nonsense that fuels the whole 'political correctness' agenda.
How ironic it is that the very protagonists are then incensed by the 'PC' monster that their actions have created.Michael Clayton

cookie_brighton wrote…

This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.

No matter what you think of Collymore, the comments were unacceptable and it is this kind of nonsense that fuels the whole 'political correctness' agenda. How ironic it is that the very protagonists are then incensed by the 'PC' monster that their actions have created.

Score: 1

Michael Clayton says...11:47am Thu 23 Jan 14

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote…

Twitter has a block facility, whilst no right minded person would use the forum as a place to spew hate, many do, therefore block/ignore/move on. Any regulation of users is an erosion of free speech and as that is still a right in this country I wouldn't want any 'clamp down' of any kind. Conversely, a group of City fans are/have reported some young Birmingham fans for tweeting about the fire, I actually saw a lot of this exchange and to be fair, the main guy from the City group explained his position, why he finds it so offensive and asked the original poster to remove his picture and comment and apologise. He then received a lot of bluff and bluster with some of the OP's mates joining in and no apology, at which point he informed the OP he would let his college and cricket club know how vile he was and the possible dim view they would take of his actions. At that point it should have been left. I do not think it is a police matter to investigate 'words in a box' no matter how distasteful or vile. Especially when there is the option to avoid being offended by it via a few methods. I was at VP on that fateful day, I tore fences down at the base of the kop so people could reach the pitch easier, it will live with me forever but I do think our freedom to think and speak is as important as our freedom of movement and also not to be caged in at a football match.

Interesting and informative post.

[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote:
Twitter has a block facility, whilst no right minded person would use the forum as a place to spew hate, many do, therefore block/ignore/move on. Any regulation of users is an erosion of free speech and as that is still a right in this country I wouldn't want any 'clamp down' of any kind. Conversely, a group of City fans are/have reported some young Birmingham fans for tweeting about the fire, I actually saw a lot of this exchange and to be fair, the main guy from the City group explained his position, why he finds it so offensive and asked the original poster to remove his picture and comment and apologise. He then received a lot of bluff and bluster with some of the OP's mates joining in and no apology, at which point he informed the OP he would let his college and cricket club know how vile he was and the possible dim view they would take of his actions. At that point it should have been left. I do not think it is a police matter to investigate 'words in a box' no matter how distasteful or vile. Especially when there is the option to avoid being offended by it via a few methods. I was at VP on that fateful day, I tore fences down at the base of the kop so people could reach the pitch easier, it will live with me forever but I do think our freedom to think and speak is as important as our freedom of movement and also not to be caged in at a football match.[/p][/quote]Interesting and informative post.Michael Clayton

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote…

Twitter has a block facility, whilst no right minded person would use the forum as a place to spew hate, many do, therefore block/ignore/move on. Any regulation of users is an erosion of free speech and as that is still a right in this country I wouldn't want any 'clamp down' of any kind. Conversely, a group of City fans are/have reported some young Birmingham fans for tweeting about the fire, I actually saw a lot of this exchange and to be fair, the main guy from the City group explained his position, why he finds it so offensive and asked the original poster to remove his picture and comment and apologise. He then received a lot of bluff and bluster with some of the OP's mates joining in and no apology, at which point he informed the OP he would let his college and cricket club know how vile he was and the possible dim view they would take of his actions. At that point it should have been left. I do not think it is a police matter to investigate 'words in a box' no matter how distasteful or vile. Especially when there is the option to avoid being offended by it via a few methods. I was at VP on that fateful day, I tore fences down at the base of the kop so people could reach the pitch easier, it will live with me forever but I do think our freedom to think and speak is as important as our freedom of movement and also not to be caged in at a football match.

Interesting and informative post.

Score: 4

Prisoner Cell Block A says...12:53pm Thu 23 Jan 14

I also think we are in big trouble if we have to use Stan Collymore as our moral compass. The messages he received were nasty but they were not a 'real' threat and easily avoidable.

I also think we are in big trouble if we have to use Stan Collymore as our moral compass. The messages he received were nasty but they were not a 'real' threat and easily avoidable.Prisoner Cell Block A

I also think we are in big trouble if we have to use Stan Collymore as our moral compass. The messages he received were nasty but they were not a 'real' threat and easily avoidable.

Score: 4

RollandSmoke says...1:40pm Thu 23 Jan 14

This story has more to do with stripping everyone of their right to anonymity online than it has to do with concern about Stan. Where there are rights there will always be a small minority that abuse them. This does not however justify stripping those rights from everyone. On Crimewatch last night they spoke of being able to track down an internet abuser and be knocking on their door within two hours. Whilst you may delude yourself that true anonymity is possible online there are always ways of finding someones true identity if you have the resources and motivation to do so. If you think GCHQ only tracks terrorists then I think you misunderstand their definition of what is potentially a terrorist and therefore should be tracked. If you attend football matches then you would be foolish to think that the authorities don't know who you are regardless of whether you've ever been involved in any sort of crime or the alias you hide behind.

This story has more to do with stripping everyone of their right to anonymity online than it has to do with concern about Stan. Where there are rights there will always be a small minority that abuse them. This does not however justify stripping those rights from everyone. On Crimewatch last night they spoke of being able to track down an internet abuser and be knocking on their door within two hours. Whilst you may delude yourself that true anonymity is possible online there are always ways of finding someones true identity if you have the resources and motivation to do so. If you think GCHQ only tracks terrorists then I think you misunderstand their definition of what is potentially a terrorist and therefore should be tracked. If you attend football matches then you would be foolish to think that the authorities don't know who you are regardless of whether you've ever been involved in any sort of crime or the alias you hide behind.RollandSmoke

This story has more to do with stripping everyone of their right to anonymity online than it has to do with concern about Stan. Where there are rights there will always be a small minority that abuse them. This does not however justify stripping those rights from everyone. On Crimewatch last night they spoke of being able to track down an internet abuser and be knocking on their door within two hours. Whilst you may delude yourself that true anonymity is possible online there are always ways of finding someones true identity if you have the resources and motivation to do so. If you think GCHQ only tracks terrorists then I think you misunderstand their definition of what is potentially a terrorist and therefore should be tracked. If you attend football matches then you would be foolish to think that the authorities don't know who you are regardless of whether you've ever been involved in any sort of crime or the alias you hide behind.

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Farsley Bantam says...1:44pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote…

I also think we are in big trouble if we have to use Stan Collymore as our moral compass. The messages he received were nasty but they were not a 'real' threat and easily avoidable.

I stand to be corrected but I'm willing to be that there hasn't been a Twitter death threat that has been followed through.

[quote][p][bold]Prisoner Cell Block A[/bold] wrote:
I also think we are in big trouble if we have to use Stan Collymore as our moral compass. The messages he received were nasty but they were not a 'real' threat and easily avoidable.[/p][/quote]I stand to be corrected but I'm willing to be that there hasn't been a Twitter death threat that has been followed through.Farsley Bantam

Prisoner Cell Block A wrote…

I also think we are in big trouble if we have to use Stan Collymore as our moral compass. The messages he received were nasty but they were not a 'real' threat and easily avoidable.

I stand to be corrected but I'm willing to be that there hasn't been a Twitter death threat that has been followed through.

Score: 1

Bacon Bantam says...4:33pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Collymore, the boy who cried wolf.

Collymore, the boy who cried wolf.Bacon Bantam

Collymore, the boy who cried wolf.

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Rambo says...4:43pm Thu 23 Jan 14

Apparently the main reason for the abuse, not that it is any kind of justification, is Collymore favourited/retweeted a comment from an Everton fan I believe implying Liverpool fans were 'murderers'. You can probably understand then why they abuse came in. However most media sources missed that point, I think 1 of 4 main newspapers mentioned it yesterday.

Apparently the main reason for the abuse, not that it is any kind of justification, is Collymore favourited/retweeted a comment from an Everton fan I believe implying Liverpool fans were 'murderers'. You can probably understand then why they abuse came in. However most media sources missed that point, I think 1 of 4 main newspapers mentioned it yesterday.Rambo

Apparently the main reason for the abuse, not that it is any kind of justification, is Collymore favourited/retweeted a comment from an Everton fan I believe implying Liverpool fans were 'murderers'. You can probably understand then why they abuse came in. However most media sources missed that point, I think 1 of 4 main newspapers mentioned it yesterday.

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Silsdenman says...5:08pm Thu 23 Jan 14

He played here for a couple of months, eight games and 2 goals and that gives him a place in local news forever. What has this got to do with Bradford? I can read this rubbish in the national press.

He played here for a couple of months, eight games and 2 goals and that gives him a place in local news forever. What has this got to do with Bradford? I can read this rubbish in the national press.Silsdenman

He played here for a couple of months, eight games and 2 goals and that gives him a place in local news forever. What has this got to do with Bradford? I can read this rubbish in the national press.

Score: 1

bradmat says...11:56pm Thu 23 Jan 14

The guy is a bell end

The guy is a bell endbradmat

The guy is a bell end

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Prisoner Cell Block A says...9:06am Fri 24 Jan 14

Rambo wrote…

Apparently the main reason for the abuse, not that it is any kind of justification, is Collymore favourited/retweeted a comment from an Everton fan I believe implying Liverpool fans were 'murderers'. You can probably understand then why they abuse came in. However most media sources missed that point, I think 1 of 4 main newspapers mentioned it yesterday.

I thought it was related to the Luis Suarez dive/penalty from the weekend, I stand to be corrected though.

[quote][p][bold]Rambo[/bold] wrote:
Apparently the main reason for the abuse, not that it is any kind of justification, is Collymore favourited/retweeted a comment from an Everton fan I believe implying Liverpool fans were 'murderers'. You can probably understand then why they abuse came in. However most media sources missed that point, I think 1 of 4 main newspapers mentioned it yesterday.[/p][/quote]I thought it was related to the Luis Suarez dive/penalty from the weekend, I stand to be corrected though.Prisoner Cell Block A

Rambo wrote…

Apparently the main reason for the abuse, not that it is any kind of justification, is Collymore favourited/retweeted a comment from an Everton fan I believe implying Liverpool fans were 'murderers'. You can probably understand then why they abuse came in. However most media sources missed that point, I think 1 of 4 main newspapers mentioned it yesterday.

I thought it was related to the Luis Suarez dive/penalty from the weekend, I stand to be corrected though.

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Michael Clayton says...9:11am Fri 24 Jan 14

bradmat wrote…

The guy is a bell end

When I worked in Dudley, there was a cul-de-sac called Bell End and another place named Fatherless Barn. How I chuckle as I remind myself of these locations.

[quote][p][bold]bradmat[/bold] wrote:
The guy is a bell end[/p][/quote]When I worked in Dudley, there was a cul-de-sac called Bell End and another place named Fatherless Barn.
How I chuckle as I remind myself of these locations.Michael Clayton

bradmat wrote…

The guy is a bell end

When I worked in Dudley, there was a cul-de-sac called Bell End and another place named Fatherless Barn. How I chuckle as I remind myself of these locations.

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cookie_brighton says...11:39am Fri 24 Jan 14

Michael Clayton wrote…

cookie_brighton wrote…

This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.

No matter what you think of Collymore, the comments were unacceptable and it is this kind of nonsense that fuels the whole 'political correctness' agenda. How ironic it is that the very protagonists are then incensed by the 'PC' monster that their actions have created.

we live in a democratic country where we ALLOW free speech...you say my comments were not acceptable........pm sl........all I have posted..........IS THE TRUTH..

[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote:
This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.[/p][/quote]No matter what you think of Collymore, the comments were unacceptable and it is this kind of nonsense that fuels the whole 'political correctness' agenda.
How ironic it is that the very protagonists are then incensed by the 'PC' monster that their actions have created.[/p][/quote]we live in a democratic country where we ALLOW free speech...you say my comments were not acceptable........pm
sl........all I have posted..........IS THE TRUTH..cookie_brighton

Michael Clayton wrote…

cookie_brighton wrote…

This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.

No matter what you think of Collymore, the comments were unacceptable and it is this kind of nonsense that fuels the whole 'political correctness' agenda. How ironic it is that the very protagonists are then incensed by the 'PC' monster that their actions have created.

we live in a democratic country where we ALLOW free speech...you say my comments were not acceptable........pm sl........all I have posted..........IS THE TRUTH..

Score: 1

Michael Clayton says...12:58pm Fri 24 Jan 14

cookie_brighton wrote…

Michael Clayton wrote…

cookie_brighton wrote…

This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.

No matter what you think of Collymore, the comments were unacceptable and it is this kind of nonsense that fuels the whole 'political correctness' agenda. How ironic it is that the very protagonists are then incensed by the 'PC' monster that their actions have created.

we live in a democratic country where we ALLOW free speech...you say my comments were not acceptable........pm sl........all I have posted..........IS THE TRUTH..

Just to clarify, I was not stating specifically that your comments were unacceptable. I was referring to the Twitter postings. If you notice I wrote "were" as opposed to "are". In terms of what you have written, I broadly agree with you in terms of his conduct. Also, residents of the UK have got a negative right to freedom of expression under common law. The idea that free speech is simply allowable is not entirely accurate.

[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.[/p][/quote]No matter what you think of Collymore, the comments were unacceptable and it is this kind of nonsense that fuels the whole 'political correctness' agenda. How ironic it is that the very protagonists are then incensed by the 'PC' monster that their actions have created.[/p][/quote]we live in a democratic country where we ALLOW free speech...you say my comments were not acceptable........pm sl........all I have posted..........IS THE TRUTH..[/p][/quote]Just to clarify, I was not stating specifically that your comments were unacceptable. I was referring to the Twitter postings. If you notice I wrote "were" as opposed to "are".
In terms of what you have written, I broadly agree with you in terms of his conduct.
Also, residents of the UK have got a negative right to freedom of expression under common law. The idea that free speech is simply allowable is not entirely accurate.Michael Clayton

cookie_brighton wrote…

Michael Clayton wrote…

cookie_brighton wrote…

This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.

No matter what you think of Collymore, the comments were unacceptable and it is this kind of nonsense that fuels the whole 'political correctness' agenda. How ironic it is that the very protagonists are then incensed by the 'PC' monster that their actions have created.

we live in a democratic country where we ALLOW free speech...you say my comments were not acceptable........pm sl........all I have posted..........IS THE TRUTH..

Just to clarify, I was not stating specifically that your comments were unacceptable. I was referring to the Twitter postings. If you notice I wrote "were" as opposed to "are". In terms of what you have written, I broadly agree with you in terms of his conduct. Also, residents of the UK have got a negative right to freedom of expression under common law. The idea that free speech is simply allowable is not entirely accurate.

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cookie_brighton says...1:09pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Michael Clayton wrote…

cookie_brighton wrote…

Michael Clayton wrote…

cookie_brighton wrote…

This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.

No matter what you think of Collymore, the comments were unacceptable and it is this kind of nonsense that fuels the whole 'political correctness' agenda. How ironic it is that the very protagonists are then incensed by the 'PC' monster that their actions have created.

we live in a democratic country where we ALLOW free speech...you say my comments were not acceptable........pm sl........all I have posted..........IS THE TRUTH..

Just to clarify, I was not stating specifically that your comments were unacceptable. I was referring to the Twitter postings. If you notice I wrote "were" as opposed to "are". In terms of what you have written, I broadly agree with you in terms of his conduct. Also, residents of the UK have got a negative right to freedom of expression under common law. The idea that free speech is simply allowable is not entirely accurate.

thank you for clarifying

[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Michael Clayton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cookie_brighton[/bold] wrote: This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.[/p][/quote]No matter what you think of Collymore, the comments were unacceptable and it is this kind of nonsense that fuels the whole 'political correctness' agenda. How ironic it is that the very protagonists are then incensed by the 'PC' monster that their actions have created.[/p][/quote]we live in a democratic country where we ALLOW free speech...you say my comments were not acceptable........pm sl........all I have posted..........IS THE TRUTH..[/p][/quote]Just to clarify, I was not stating specifically that your comments were unacceptable. I was referring to the Twitter postings. If you notice I wrote "were" as opposed to "are".
In terms of what you have written, I broadly agree with you in terms of his conduct.
Also, residents of the UK have got a negative right to freedom of expression under common law. The idea that free speech is simply allowable is not entirely accurate.[/p][/quote]thank you for clarifyingcookie_brighton

Michael Clayton wrote…

cookie_brighton wrote…

Michael Clayton wrote…

cookie_brighton wrote…

This guy complaining about decency on twitter........what about 2004 where he admitted dogging.....he said he had had sex in car parks with strangers, visiting around 15 times,...he said he was ashamed of what he had done and apologised to his wife Estelle. Stan..this is 2014, what is said on twitter....take it on the chin...., as no doubt some of the doggers you met.....did.......ha ha P.S. Stan.........dogging is illegal in the U.K............TOO.

No matter what you think of Collymore, the comments were unacceptable and it is this kind of nonsense that fuels the whole 'political correctness' agenda. How ironic it is that the very protagonists are then incensed by the 'PC' monster that their actions have created.

we live in a democratic country where we ALLOW free speech...you say my comments were not acceptable........pm sl........all I have posted..........IS THE TRUTH..

Just to clarify, I was not stating specifically that your comments were unacceptable. I was referring to the Twitter postings. If you notice I wrote "were" as opposed to "are". In terms of what you have written, I broadly agree with you in terms of his conduct. Also, residents of the UK have got a negative right to freedom of expression under common law. The idea that free speech is simply allowable is not entirely accurate.

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