manaburn

Is it just me or does new rank of manaburn look very uneffective when you compare it to other similar abilitys when manaburn is already most limited of these 3. Drainmana is quite in line with manaburn but when you compare vipersting to these its way over the top.

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some classes can some classes cant. But the thing is manaburn is on cast makes it already worse than sting is even sting would do less draining and other thing is that others are drains where manaburn is just burn.

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2 sec cast is a long long long long looooooooooooooooooooooong time on arenas. And sometimes when you are manaburning it feels like you are burning yourself cause spell aint excatly free to cast. You cant forget hunters are getting chimmera shot making drain comps ridicilously op pretty much against anything else than druids.

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Originally Posted by Naumu

You can't dispel something that's not really 'on' you, but you can shorten the cast time by hitting the Warlock. :d

I seem to remember being able to dispel certain channeled things like drain life and drain mana, maybe even mind flay. Haven't played a dispeler in quite some time though. True you can also just interrupt the cast.

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Originally Posted by Karpalo

2 sec cast is a long long long long looooooooooooooooooooooong time on arenas. And sometimes when you are manaburning it feels like you are burning yourself cause spell aint excatly free to cast. You cant forget hunters are getting chimmera shot making drain comps ridicilously op pretty much against anything else than druids.

OP? Wrong. When we (Hunters) get smashed in by the meleetrain without having Master's call and/or Deterrence, can you then say it's "OP"? Hell, even with MC will it matter that much? Our pet's will still die quickly, so it's not entirely useful unless you're playing stupid people who haven't even looked at the Pet changes+MC :/.

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Originally Posted by slyin

I seem to remember being able to dispel certain channeled things like drain life and drain mana, maybe even mind flay. Haven't played a dispeler in quite some time though. True you can also just interrupt the cast.

Oh well, I can't dispel so, I didn't think you could since it's not really 'on' you. And I wouldn't waste a silencing shot on a Lock. Unless it's Lock and/or Rogue or Spriest of course.

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Originally Posted by Karpalo

warlockz cant even meleez

So. Fear, Lolcoil, Soul link, Drain life/mana. Can Hunters? Traps are easily avoidable esp by a LOLcept/LOLstep Warrior/Rogue. That's if they don't resist, or get Cloak of Skill'd/Spell Reflected. Spamstring/Crip poison > Wing clip/Hunter Melee, they can keep us in melee more than our slow, and do their regular amounts of damage. I think casters have it a bit better IMO.

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Originally Posted by Naumu

So. Fear, Lolcoil, Soul link, Drain life/mana. Can Hunters? Traps are easily avoidable esp by a LOLcept/LOLstep Warrior/Rogue. That's if they don't resist, or get Cloak of Skill'd/Spell Reflected. Spamstring/Crip poison > Wing clip/Hunter Melee, they can keep us in melee more than our slow, and do their regular amounts of damage. I think casters have it a bit better IMO.

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well even mana burn is 2secs. its fine. as priest i can say if mana burn was something like 1sec - 1.5, all the priests would be just mana burning. kinda fast. if you wanna make it better, increase ammount of mana burned a little.

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Originally Posted by jizziee

well even mana burn is 2secs. its fine. as priest i can say if mana burn was something like 1sec - 1.5, all the priests would be just mana burning. kinda fast. if you wanna make it better, increase ammount of mana burned a little.

and tbh viper sting should be nerfed 8)

I agree, the cast time is fine. I'm sure Blizzard doesn't want a class only to have one skill and that is the only reason they are brought to arena.

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Originally Posted by jizziee

well even mana burn is 2secs. its fine. as priest i can say if mana burn was something like 1sec - 1.5, all the priests would be just mana burning. kinda fast. if you wanna make it better, increase ammount of mana burned a little.

im not saying make manaburn better but more like balance vipersting around other similar ability values. Long cast time makes manaburn balanced as you cant expect to get it off that often against any opponent that got a clue but vipersting is most effective drain already as it is and now they are more than doubleing the value it drains.