Giants already talking about a Super Bowl repeat

Posted by Michael David Smith on February 7, 2012, 8:44 AM EDT

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When the Giants won the Super Bowl after the 2007 season, they followed it up with a 2008 season that started even better — they won 11 of their first 12 games and spent most of the year as the favorites to repeat. Then they lost three of their last four regular-season games and their first playoff game, and that season is remembered mostly as a disappointment.

The current Giants say they don’t see next year being a similar disappointment.

Mathias Kiwanuka says he doesn’t see any reason the Giants can’t win next year’s Super Bowl.

Of the way the Giants collapsed down the stretch in 2008, Kiwanuka said, “We’ve got to make sure that doesn’t happen again.”

Giants receiver Hakeem Nicks said he thinks the Giants can be a dynasty.

“I feel like the sky’s the limit for this organization and our team,” Nicks said. “I feel like we can be at this level for a long time.”

Giants defensive tackle Linval Joseph said he thinks this season’s 9-7 regular season didn’t come close to demonstrating how good the Giants actually are — and he doesn’t even think the Super Bowl shows how good the Giants actually are.

“Actually we won the game, but I still don’t feel like we played our best game yet this whole season,” Joseph said. “I feel like next year is going to be a good year. Just everybody stays focused and everybody stays hungry, and I think we should have a good season next year, too.”

Congrats to the Giants–but now shut the heck up..These guys can’t stop yappin…What’s funny is that if Welker catches that ball; Giants lose and then there is none of this hall of fame, greatest ever, better than Peyton, crappola…

Wow, for a team that Lucked their way into the playoffs and Lucked a win out of the NFC Championship and beat a very soft NEP team (this year) in the superbowl, They sure talk a lot. I am not trying to take anything away from their accomplishment because winning a superbowl is not an easy thing to do, But they were far from the best team in the Playoffs and I highly doubt that they will repeat. (start the hater comments in 3…2….1)

The Super Bowl is about peaking at the right time, and lots of luck. 99yrd catch against the Jets. Having a terrible run D, yet shutting down Turner the Burner. GB dropping 8 passes. Kyle Williams fumbles, Welker dropping that wide open look.

Enjoy the win, and take some time off. Worry about next season, come the end of July.

it was all about injuries this year for the giants…..their defensive starters lost more cumulative games to injury than any other team in football.

if they can have even a normal year as far as injuries are concerned, they should have a decent shot in 2012. if they lose two defensive starters before the season even starts, like they did this year, it wont be easy.

Eh, I don’t really see it happening. With Dallas and Philadelphia primed to compete for the NFC East title, as well as the fact that the Giants have historically struggled to beat the Eagles over the past couple of years, I don’t see the Giants winning the East as long as everyone from Philly and/or Dallas stays healthy. They could still get in on the wild card, but in reality, had the Eagles beaten 1 of the mediocre teams they lost to (Seattle, Arizona, Chicago, I’ll even say Atlanta or SF as well because they had a 20pt lead on SF in the 3rd quarter), the Eagles would have been the East champs and the giants would have not made it into the playoffs at all.

And also in reality, SF handed them the win in the championship game by muffing/fumbling 2 punts.

Now, thats not to say the Giants aren’t a good team. They’re the world champs, but I can easily see them not making the playoffs next year and finishing 8-8 or 9-7. I think that any rational Giants fan would agree with me, as other than the Redskins, any team in the East can beat any other pretty easily and win the division.

Ok they need to shut up already. Seriously..”as long as we stay hungry.” Lol they’re full and they’re gonna think that next year will be the same luck plays that always bounce theyre way. But I see 8-8

hey, being a hater is cool…..but how does a team who WON their division “luck” into the playoffs?

and honestly….by the time the playoffs rolled around, with them finally getting healthy on defense…..they were pretty much the best team in the playoffs. the only team that MIGHT have still been better than them was the saints.

Sure, if they get back to the playoffs and everything bounces their way for an entire month like it has the past 2 super bowl runs…. aka they recover EIGHT fumbles in 3 games and lose NONE (3 vs GB, 3 vs SF, 2 vs NE)….. guys drop game sealing passes (Welker)… the opponents star players get injured, costing them the game (Ginn and Gronk)….They catch Hail Marys (vs GB) and the other team doesnt (NE)…… they get huge calls in their favor (Bradshaw’s “non”-fumble)…. or an opponent plays their worst game of the season against them (Green Bay), then sure, they can repeat.

Maybe Brett Favre can come out of retirement and hand them another horrible INT in OT of the NFC championship game or Tyree can come back and catch a ball between his cheeks.

“We’ve just got to get in the playoffs. That’s it.”
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Really! Mr. wizard you were 1 win over .500 this year and lucked out the rest of the way. GB drops,SF muffed punts and NE forced fumbles not recovered and drops C’mon man

You know a lot of fans who are haters, fine. You don’t have to like a team. But to say they got lucky is really dumb. There is LUCK in every game. The Giants beat the NFC’s number 1 and number 2 seeds ont he road and then the AFC number 1 in the Super Bowl. NO ONE has that much luck…some of you clowns needs a life

“Wow, for a team that Lucked their way into the playoffs and Lucked a win out of the NFC Championship and beat a very soft NEP team (this year) in the superbowl”

I love the taste of your tears. I suppose Manning setting a NFL record for most TDs in the 4th quarter during the regular season AND the playoffs was merely sheer luck. If any team in the NFC was better, all they had to do was step up and beat NY. None did. As for the Pats being soft, then why didn’t the “mighty” defenses of Denver and Baltimore stop them? Two best teams went into the Indy and the best team won. Same way football has been played for decades. Or have all the previous Super Bowl winners been “lucky”, too? Can NY repeat? Sure, if they can avoid injuries. Quite a few NFC teams have legitimate chances to go to the Super Bowl next season. I think GB, NO, SF, and even Philly and Detroit will be extremely tough. Seattle even has a chance to make some noise. But, just as we all know the Giants won’t have any chance if Eli is knocked out for the season, New Orleans won’t any chance if Brees is knocked out for the season. Keeping key players healthy is the number one stat that decides who can compete and who can’t. Based on what I saw in the playoffs this year, I would say Houston probably would have went to the Super Bowl if they had a healthy starting QB. But they didn’t. Injuries are part of the game, but each team has guys they simply can’t afford to lose. If Giants stay healthy, they have as good of a shot as anyone. They won it all this year and they lost more starters per game in the regular season than any other team in the NFL. I understand you’re bitter that your team didn’t make it, but trying to diminish the Giants accomplishments just makes you look small and petty.

Let the hate rain down on the champs. They are loving it. It’s going to paved the streets as team rolls down the Canyon of Heroes in the Championship parade taking place in lower manhattan today!! Haterz~~~~~~!!
You hate Jacobs, You hate Rolle, You hate their Lombardi Trophy, You hate the look on Eli’s face.. but they are smiling back at you right now. So what do you have to say for yourself?

I am a huge GIANTS fan, and I am going to revel in this SB, once it actually sinks in.

Realistically, repeating will be very hard. The NFC is stacked with talent. San Francisco, New Orleans, and Green-Bay will all come into next year extremely motivated and very hungry. You know Philly will rebound next year and be a very tough team as well. Carolina or Atalanta will be in the mix, and right there you can see 6-7 teams that will be good.

So if the GIANTS can repeat in a very, very strong NFC, it will be a huge accomplishment, but they will have a huge target on them next year.

“I think that any rational Giants fan would agree with me, as other than the Redskins, any team in the East can beat any other pretty easily and win the division.”

I was with you until your very last sentence. The Redskins SWEPT the Giants this year and thoroughly outplayed them in both games…

“I think that any rational Giants fan would agree with me, any team in the East can beat any other and win the division” would be a much better statement. The Skins actually led the division and were being talked about for the full season win (as crazy as it seemed at the time) until they started dealing with their annual lack of depth issue and predictably melted down.

The key to this division comes down to one thing….health and that’s a big “IF” in a division that tends to beat the crap out of each other every year of late.

“They need to stop aypping”, yeah like they’re just shouting these things out without being asked or something. If someone asks if they think they can repeat are they supposed to say no? Sure they have a chance to repeat, even as a Giants fan I doubt they will.
But no offseason combined with the fact they needed rookies to step up because of injuries and you can see where they may have not hit their full potential this year.

With one of the best QBs in the league and an incredibly talented young nucleus I don’t see why the Giants can’t repeat either. We aren’t the Saints or the Packers. We are great on BOTH sides of the ball. While we will probably lose Jacobs, Osi, Manningham & McKenzie… Even without acquiring another player we will get back Terrell Thomas (our best corner) & Marvin Austin. Not to mention Amukamara having a full off season. W/ Cruz, Nicks, Eli & Bradshaw on offense & Tuck, JPP, Rolle, Phillips, Webster on defense all locked up for the next few years… Barring one of our stars shooting themselves in the leg… There is no reason the Giants can’t win many more superbowls… Best team in football

Congrats to the Giants–but now shut the heck up..These guys can’t stop yappin…What’s funny is that if Welker catches that ball; Giants lose and then there is none of this hall of fame, greatest ever, better than Peyton, crappola…

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the one team in the NFL that seems to be able to back up the talk.

im sorry if you dont like it, but if they say thy can repeat i hope everyone says they cant becuase they will surely do it then.

Wow, for a team that Lucked their way into the playoffs and Lucked a win out of the NFC Championship and beat a very soft NEP team (this year) in the superbowl, They sure talk a lot. I am not trying to take anything away from their accomplishment because winning a superbowl is not an easy thing to do, But they were far from the best team in the Playoffs and I highly doubt that they will repeat. (start the hater comments in 3…2….1)

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the best team doesn’t always win… and i dont care if they are the best team. everyone is so fixated on being the best. how about the joy of being able to root for your team for a whole season and reeling off 3 or 4 straight wins to win a title.

Congrats to the Giants–but now shut the heck up..These guys can’t stop yappin…What’s funny is that if Welker catches that ball; Giants lose and then there is none of this hall of fame, greatest ever, better than Peyton, crappola…

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I agree that all this repeat and dynasty talk should be halted, but at the same time, you have to understand that these questions are part of the whole media thing right after the Super Bowl. This types of comments always usually come up no matter who wins the Super Bowl. I am not excusing anyone, and I do hate prognosticators, but for you to say “What’s funny” and then follow it with “if Welker catches the ball,” I’m sorry, that is along the same lines as, what IF Williams didn’t fumble or what IF Baltimore was able to make that field goal. Or even better, what if Green Bay actually played like the 15-1 team that they were. I don’t know what is funnier, all this talk of repeat and dynasty or your “What IF” comment.

You know a lot of fans who are haters, fine. You don’t have to like a team. But to say they got lucky is really dumb. There is LUCK in every game. The Giants beat the NFC’s number 1 and number 2 seeds ont he road and then the AFC number 1 in the Super Bowl. NO ONE has that much luck…some of you clowns needs a life

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I was just going to leave it with my previous comment but then I come across all this “LUCK” talk, AGAIN!!!

Sorry djstat, these “LUCK” comments are more than likely coming from fans of teams that were proclaimed by everyone as “Playoff” or “Super Bowl” bound during the pre-season. You can feel that hate. And I LOVE IT!!! Of course, when their team finally win or, let’s just say, even make the playoffs, the word “LUCK” will totally be out of their vocabulary.

I love being a Giants fan. The NY media scrutinizes every season, lose, game and personnel move they make. As a .500 team, the rest of the league dismisses them as a non-playoff factor. Then we go to Green Bay and San Fransisco and take care of business on our way to winning the Super Bowl.

Let’s wait, well, don’t hold your breath, until their team actually makes a serious run for the playoff so we can be the ones here posting “LUCK” messages.

Maybe the Eagles (and their fans) should shut up in the off-season and pre-season, and worry about winning some ACTUAL GAMES before they start bragging about the Lombardi they will be bringing home after signing every available free-agent.

Maybe the Jets should shut up and worry about GETTING to the SB before they keep talking about how many they are going to win.

Packers talked last year about their chances to repeat. Heck, they talked ALL YEAR about it, and you know what? It was OK, they earned the right. The Saints did, the Steelers did. THEY WON. They backed up the talk, and earn the right to be confident.

This is why I hate the GIANTS!! I love my SKINS, but i hate the Giants more the Cowgirls. For every Justin Tuck there are six more Brandon Jacobs. Dudes didn’t even do much and they still talk. Glad Devin Thomas got his ring, just wish it was with the Skins.

To bleed green and jdreed68. Keep sipping that haterade. While I brag about Mannings second ring. Yes any “rational” Giants would agree that it was all luck, and no skill. This is mainly to the ridiculous haters out there that refuse to give the Giants, and Eli Manning any props. Once might be luck. Second time around? Child please. You’ve been sipping on the haterade way too long. Eagles. Yes you’ve had the Gmens number as of late, and what do you have to show for it? An empty trophy case, and sour grapes. Philly will never win with Vick cause of his reckless style of play that leads to injuries. Get a real qb. Dallas is a joke. Still living in the 90’s. Jerry Jones keep drafting like you have, and keep bringing in lames in FA. Maybe you’ll replace the Redskins in the NFC east basement next season.

Would of, should of, if Welker catches the ball, he didn’t and that’s the breaks in football, every game has it. Good teams always have the breaks go their way. Why not believe them everything they predicted in the playoffs happen. Blah, blah, they were 9 and 7 not shabby playing against the second hardest schedule (don’t believe me google it) and having all them injures. Eli is now peaking and his pass catchers are good.

You are ignorant if you don’t think the Giants weren’t lucky, from “fire the coach” to making it in at 9-7, to SF muffinz to yada yada on and on. And you are ignorant if you don’t think luck is involved in ANY superbowl championship run. Not just picking on the NYGs here. Think about ALL that has to go right to make it to the top, most of which is totally out of your control.

Don’t be a goob when you win. Accept your trophy graciously and be glad you are lucky enough to have it.

In the end, doesn’t matter. The G-Men won’t repeat because I really think if the stars align and everyone stays healthy next year for the entire season…the Houston Texans will win the Superbowl! I really felt like they were just that much better this year and if Schaub, AJ and Mario stay healthy, as well as shore up that secondary even more and add another threat at receiver, which I think they will do, then look out! JMO.

I’ve never understood some fans’ outrage over trash talk. What did you expect the Giants to say? We’re a one and done? They’re confident, and right now they’re the only team in the league with the right to arrogantly pound their chests. If other teams didn’t like them, they should have beaten them. Blame the Jets, Cowboys, Falcons, Packers, 49ers, and Patriots for not taking care of business, but don’t blame the Giants for enjoying the spotlight. They have earned that right.

You allow the Redskins curse to carry you to another super bowl win, then you have a chance.

Pretty common that the team that wins the Super Bowl loses a game (or two in this case) to the Redskins the year they win. Ravens, Pats, Giants x2, Packers, (and not technically, but I personally include) the Saints.

“You allow the Redskins curse to carry you to another super bowl win, then you have a chance.

Pretty common that the team that wins the Super Bowl loses a game (or two in this case) to the Redskins the year they win. Ravens, Pats, Giants x2, Packers, (and not technically, but I personally include) the Saints.”

Just looked it up, even the ’95 Cowboys were swept by the Redskins. It’s not foolproof, but it’s usually right.

@eaglenoles05
get off your high horse already, they are barely two days removed from winning a SB and already its the talk how philly will win. The parade hasnt even begun yet today and already youre planning the eagles sb parade in august as usual.
Can you please explain to me how/why the cowboys and eagles have the edge? both teams are older, both teams have more holes to fill. Cowboys need to totally revamp that defense, with what money? Eagles have to resign some guys and also improve in a ton of areas. Giants have every right to be confident, they won a sb not even 48 hours ago. theyd be abused more if they said, well it was a nice run but we dont have a chance next yr.
Also, to prove your point doesnt make even more sense. The giants had the most injuries and guys on IR in the entire LEAGUE. Including most of their d starters. Explain how they will be worse? Marvin austin is back next yr, who is a beast. Their best cornerback is back next season as well as their starting MLB and 2 offensive tackles. Bradshaw has all offseason to rest his broken feet. I dont get your logic on any of this. Take a look at their injuries as well as games missed by key players all season..nicks, osi, bradshaw, boley etc etc. come on
lets chill with the luck too. Every team you can point to any game. People mention gb drops? If the refs werent such a disaster the giants would have hung 50 on the packers. People fail to mention aside from 8 mins, the giants controlled that entire SB. Not one PI call, nothing. it happens on both sides of the ball.

Lol, the same clowns that were here 4 years ago saying the Giants are just lucky are back again. Giants are the luckiest team in the league I guess. It must have been luck they had 10 players on IR and still won the title. Huh?

Wow sounds like a lot of bitter fans out there. If your teams executed when they needed to then the packers, saints, niners, could have won the Lombardi trophy as well. Giants had a lot of injuries and a tough midseason schedule (SF, NO, GB). So to all those fans don’t start pissing on the giants accomplishment b/c they won when it mattered.

It takes consistency to win. The Giants are very inconsistent. They barely made the playoffs this season but managed to win it all. There are too many “personalities” on that team. A lot of guys in NY play for personal gain rather than team success. Coughlin managed to get those cats to play as a group for 4 straight games in the playoffs (6 including the last couple reg season games). That is as long a run as the Giants can put together before they implode. It isnt Eli, Cruz, Nicks, JPP, Tuck or any other player. It is the Coaches who deserve the credit for getting these guys to play for the team. Now that they have had success, players like the Giants have will expect to be treated like royalty once again. I dont even see them making the playoffs. Maybe I am wrong, but if we look back on history, the teams who have been the most consistent (ie., winners) are the ones who have team players and good personalities on the roster. The Giants have some bad apples in the basket over there.

lmao- nothing to take away what the giants did this year. have to give them props, but my god mid season this team was about to fire their head coach….maybe they should focus on trying to win the NFC East next year.

According to Bloomberg, the MGM Grand in Vegas lists the New England Patriots and Green Bay Packers as the favorites for next year’s title, at 5-1 and 11-2 odds, respectively. The Giants, at 8-1 odds, are rated as the fifth likeliest team to win hoist the Lombardi Trophy, behind the Pittsburgh Steelers and NFC East division rival Philadelphia Eagles, both of which come in at 6-1.

kelvinmchale says:
Feb 7, 2012 9:02 AM
Somebody’s been reading their own press clippings. Settle down a bit, G-men. Worry about making the playoffs first, that’s been a struggle for you lately. Dynasty? My eye.

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Coming from a member of the yappingest, most press clipping-readingest fan base in all of sport, your comment is a laugher.

The only thing in “your eye” is the multitude of tears that are in every single crybaby Pats fan’s eye. Now get ready to start crying for your loser Celtics…and Red Sox…because both are going down hard.

sure, all super bowl champs will say that..but the giants were very lucky and fortunate to win this year..from romo’s incomplete pass to a wide open miles austin to Welker’s drop pass from Brady= lucky giants, but with free agency in the nfl + g-men brutal 2012 schedule which includes ravens, steelers, saints, 49ers, packers, bengals, and entire nfc east as well..I’m 99% sure these guys won’t repeat ask the packers, saints, steelers and 2007 Giants…

east96st says:
Feb 7, 2012 10:13 AM
2sausage11 – Man, am I glad you showed up!! I thought you would be hiding for months
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haven’t been hiding.
2sausage11 says:
Feb 6, 2012 8:35 AM
Safety lost it,that pass lost it,the other droped passes lost it and 12 men on the field lost it. so yes team lost. still proud of them making it to the SB could have gone either way. As much as it pains me to say congrats Giants

Like the Packers last year, they certainly would be odd’s on favorites that’s for sure. They showed no weaknesses and if they can go injury free next year I for one think they would be the team to beat.

Hopefully they don’t start out the gate losing a key player for the year like the Pack did. The Pack won 14 games in row without him but his absense in the playoffs was noticed thats for sure.

The Packers could be contenders with a pass rusher or two, if not they aren’t going….

The Saints looked powerful and have a lot of weapons as well and could be contenders for sure…

If the eagles with all that talent ever put the ego’s aside and played like a team instead of a group of individuals they could be very dangerous…

Congratulations Giants fans. As much as it pains me to say it, your team played a great game. They made all the tackles, and all the catches (I can’t believe the catches!) Classic game, and now you’ve got a 2 time SB MVP on your hands. Unbelievable. Maybe the Pats will get a couple DE’s and we’ll see you in the big one again in a year or two.

They should worry about making the playoffs and winning a game. The last team to win the Bowl and then a playoff game the following season was New England, they won it all in 2004 and then won in the wildcard round in 2005.

Didn’t they say this 4 years ago? If there were ever emptier words spoken … I’ll believe it when I see it Giants. I seem to remember a #1 seed defending SB champion team out of New York getting bumped by the Cardinals of all teams …

Like the Packers last year, they certainly would be odd’s on favorites that’s for sure. They showed no weaknesses and if they can go injury free next year I for one think they would be the team to beat.

Hopefully they don’t start out the gate losing a key player for the year like the Pack did. The Pack won 14 games in row without him but his absense in the playoffs was noticed thats for sure.

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Giants lost 2 key players (Terrell Thomas and Jonathan Goff) in pre-season, and Domnik Hixon in Week 2. Plus Osi was gone the first 4 weeks of the season, amongst the myriad of other injuries. A starting CB, starting MLB, and #WR/main KR. If that doesn’t constitute losing a key player “right out of the gate”, then i don’t what does.

You are ignorant if you don’t think the Giants weren’t lucky, from “fire the coach” to making it in at 9-7, to SF muffinz to yada yada on and on. And you are ignorant if you don’t think luck is involved in ANY superbowl championship run. Not just picking on the NYGs here. Think about ALL that has to go right to make it to the top, most of which is totally out of your control.

Don’t be a goob when you win. Accept your trophy graciously and be glad you are lucky enough to have it.

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I like how you start implying “ignorance” to those who would not accept “luck” as BIG part in the Giants winning the Super Bowl. And also state the same thing if we deny that “luck” as not being part of their run. But let me ask you this, and most of the haters here will probably agree with you, why is it when the Giants win like this year and 2008, they GOT lucky? And does the same luck apply to your Eagles if they miraculously make the playoffs next year and, I don’t know, for some strange reason win it all?

Come on, are you and your hating counterparts serious? YES, we Giants fans are ecstatic and are enjoying the teams success, but for you and your hater counterparts to just insinuate luck to every single game they won during the season, you must admit it yourself, you are HATING!!!

OK, let me talk in the language that you may understand, like I said before, I bet everyone in here that when their own team makes some kind of serious run you yourselves will not even, even in the slightest, mention the word luck. So, yeah, go ahead with your luck insinuations but bottom line, we and most of the world knows it, its in the record books, THE NEW YORK GIANTS are the SUPER BOWL CHAMPS this year. You, your hater friends, cannot do anything to that!!

Now take your luck talk and rub some of them in the team that you follow. You wish your team should be so lucky!!!

bozosforall says:
your comment is a laugher.
———————————————————-Not as laughable as the sad clown who, instead of having fun rooting for your team(sports is supposed to be fun), chooses instead to spew his childish vitriol on the fan base of the winningest sports town this century. Out of jealousy. Sad and pathetic. Some may wonder who this guy roots for. Firstly, who cares. Second, he can’t say, because he’s afraid there’s someone out there as low as him, that would come back at him the same way. Can’t be another sad creature like that.

Repeat? Not a chance. This is a team who would look awesome one week, then lose to the Seahawks at home. They would look to be on a roll again, and then lose to the Redskins at home. They were up and down all season and just happen to hit an up point at the end, combined with a whole lot of lucky breaks, managed to win a title.

Next year with expectations so high, probably 8-8 at best. More likely 6-10.

jimyritz says:
Feb 7, 2012 8:54 AM
Congrats to the Giants–but now shut the heck up..These guys can’t stop yappin…What’s funny is that if Welker catches that ball; Giants lose and then there is none of this hall of fame, greatest ever, better than Peyton, crappola…

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yea but he didn’t !
Now you can suffer some of the same putrid B.S. The rest of the football world has had to put up with about Brady for the last 10 years. He’s now known as Eli’s beootch get used to it. Lol!

According to Bloomberg, the MGM Grand in Vegas lists the New England Patriots and Green Bay Packers as the favorites for next year’s title, at 5-1 and 11-2 odds, respectively. The Giants, at 8-1 odds, are rated as the fifth likeliest team to win hoist the Lombardi Trophy, behind the Pittsburgh Steelers and NFC East division rival Philadelphia Eagles, both of which come in at 6-1.

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tedmurph says:
Feb 7, 2012 11:31 AM
Ne is the favorite or the 2nd choice to win 2013 SB, depending on which casino. GB is the other fav. Giants are 5th/6th choice, ave about 15:1.

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Too bad being the favorite doesn’t amount to a hill of beans in the real NFL world.

Get back to your whining, loser Pats fans…that goes double for you, flush and teddysmurf.

tedmurph says:
Feb 7, 2012 12:44 PM
bozosforall says:
your comment is a laugher.
———————————————————-Not as laughable as the sad clown who, instead of having fun rooting for your team(sports is supposed to be fun), chooses instead to spew his childish vitriol on the fan base of the winningest sports town this century. Out of jealousy. Sad and pathetic. Some may wonder who this guy roots for. Firstly, who cares. Second, he can’t say, because he’s afraid there’s someone out there as low as him, that would come back at him the same way. Can’t be another sad creature like that.
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Plenty of sadder creatures out there…they are known as New England sports fans.

I stopped reading after a while, but the 1st question, does this “luck” apply if the eagles were to win? A resounding Yes!!!! is the answer. I will feel like the luckiest fool on the planet if the eagles ever win. I will come on this board and agree with all the “they got lucky posts,” and then link them to a photo of me holding a paper mache lombardi trophy with “lucky me!” written on it.

And it’ll take just that for them to do it. Luck. Heck, they’ve been the “best” team in the NFL several times in the last 10yrs. Obviously we need a little luck.

Giants got lucky. And it’s ignorant to claim otherwise because it somehow makes you a “better superbowl champ” to have not needed luck. Dude, you won.

Lol, just hilarious to me how people want to deny the existence of luck and chance in sports when they win. It’s like a form of little man’s syndrome. Like thinking admitting the truth makes you less of a champion. Championships are absolute! The fact that you are fortunate (synonym- L U C K Y ) to have won is just a fact.

There are all sorts of lucky things that happened for the Gmen, and all superbowl champs, and none of them make any of the championships any less great. But denying the element of fortune in sports… not insinuating- but telling you point blank… is ignorant.

P.S: Did the giants masterful execution and prowess cause the eagles to blow all those games in the 4th quarter, when one less would’ve had the giants at home watching the playoffs?

Eh, I don’t really see it happening. With Dallas and Philadelphia primed to compete for the NFC East title, as well as the fact that the Giants have historically struggled to beat the Eagles over the past couple of years, I don’t see the Giants winning the East as long as everyone from Philly and/or Dallas stays healthy. They could still get in on the wild card, but in reality, had the Eagles beaten 1 of the mediocre teams they lost to (Seattle, Arizona, Chicago, I’ll even say Atlanta or SF as well because they had a 20pt lead on SF in the 3rd quarter), the Eagles would have been the East champs and the giants would have not made it into the playoffs at all.
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IF ONLY…….all those “IF’S” were Superbowl Rings, the Eagles wouldn’t be such a joke of a team.

The Cowboys and Eagles always seem to “primed” for contention during the off season, but when it comes to showing up on Sunday it’s another story.

I am not denying that “luck” was a non-factor in, not just Giants game, but in all of sports. And if that is what you got from my reply then I stand corrected, but my point is to you and your hater counterparts who keep stating that the Giants got lucky winning each and every game they had to win. Seriously, we got lucky?

From those stating that Atlanta was just “being” their old selves, to those who kept harping on the so-called Bradshaw “non-fumble” call. The luck insinuation is just really tiring. I fail to see a string of luck that long that it carried into 6, count them, 6 straight games from the regular season to the Super Bowl.

Now, I’m sorry, and I do hate the Eagles, but with you’re, AGAIN, ASSumption that they have been the “best” team in the NFL in the last 10 years? Now that is ignorance, even if you say just a few years. Fact a whole slew of teams can claim the same. And, I don’t know, I think to be considered the best, you must beat the best, with much “luck” in your side, of course, during the season. The last time I checked, the Eagles went and came to one, read that ONE, Super Bowl the last ten years.

And this whole “ignorant to claim otherwise?” Dude, really? I know you are not casting stones, I know that!!!

I’m just sticking with they were “lucky to be there” after a 9-7 season with some (seemingly) very capable teams stumbling to 8-8 behind them. They had fantastic signature comebacks vs Dal and NE to not be 7-9. They were soft and very vulnerable in the run game and in the d secondary

Then came the playoffs.

The Giants flat-out pounded atl. And they pounded GB too, in what was the most impressive game for them of the year. SF and NYG was a heavyweight slugfest down to the wire that any team could have won or lost at the bouce of a ball, and SF made the crucial errors to lose. New England was outmatched on paper, Brady made TWO mistakes, Eli made zero and was the battletested winner in the clutch (should he be lucky enough to be there 😉 ) player he has become, owning Brady, Pats, and the superbowl title.

That’s my take on the season for them. It’s a pretty common take, I’d bet, even from Giants fans.

“Now, I’m sorry, and I do hate the Eagles, but with you’re, AGAIN, ASSumption that they have been the “best” team in the NFL in the last 10 years? Now that is ignorance, even if you say just a few years. Fact a whole slew of teams can claim the same. And, I don’t know, I think to be considered the best, you must beat the best, with much “luck” in your side, of course, during the season. The last time I checked, the Eagles went and came to one, read that ONE, Super Bowl the last ten years.”

Lol, oh lord. Ok, here we go.
I said they’ve been the “best team several times in the past ten years.” Meaning, at several times in the past 10 years, you could take a snapshot and validly consider the Eagles the favorite to win the superbowl. Many times 2001-2005. Would you agree, if you could take off the giants goggles? You would. they’ve had some “best” type teams in the last 10. Ask the Giants organization, they’ll tell you. But that was merely an anticdote to say it doesn’t matter if you’re the best team- you still need to catch the breaks.

Then, your saying that “a whole slew of teams can claim the same” that they were the best means nothing. I’m not into claiming. The Eagles are perenially a top tier NFL team that is almsot always in the Vegas top 10 odds for championship, and all giants fans know it, so what’s the deal lol?

You are champs! Why you gotta hate on someone calling spades spades about it being pretty amazing that you are considering the 7 loss season and what not. Heck, I’d be proud to be so lucky.

If it hadn’t been for the bad call by Belchick late in the 4th quarter allowing the Giants to run it in for the touchdown, the Giants wouldn’t have won the game. Belichick made the call thinking his offense could make it down the field in the last minue of the game and score a touchdown. Granted the Patriots didn’t play a very good game, but the Giants didn’t play that well either. Once again, they got lucky! They won’t be in the Superbowl again next year.

Ok, I think I should stay away from certain terms like “claim” or “insinuate.” See, it really is funny that people can’t mention the word luck without really using the word “IF.” And that is my argument. Most of the haters, and I am seriously not even pointing at you, here keep stating the Giants being “lucky” and adding all the “IFs” and the “woulda’s” and the “coulda’s.”

And maybe we differ in how we define the “best.” To me, the best clearly means, reaching the top where you are branded as such, meaning, a champ. I don’t listen to prognosticators, as a matter of fact, I hate them. Or to ESPN, or FOX SPORTS, or even weather forecasters because most of the time they are wrong. So to me, if the Giants were to be picked to reach the Super Bowl at the beginning of a season, then I know as much, that that is more likely not to happen. To me, people telling me the team is the best is not as good as the team showing that they are the best. Yeah, to most, the so-called favorites did not make the Super Bowl because they lost their playoff games, but see, the Giants went and took care of what they had to, regardless of who they had to face, and that is a fact, not just this year but also back in 2007. And as much as people point out the breaks that the Giants supposedly got, I point out only two things that if a strong team does not overcome, they lose. The two breaks that lead to 14 points for Green Bay. A weaker team would not be able to overcome a 14 point deficit, especially to a dominant Packers team who dispatched of every team that they played throughout the season. But the Giants scored 14 and more. That is what separates the Giants from all of these so-called “best” or “favorites.” You can’t deny, when it counted the most, they delivered. It may not be to you but for me, that is the only way to describe what a “best” team should be!!!

Seriously, as much as I would love for the Giants to repeat next season, it really would be ok if they don’t because they’ve done pretty well in my lifetime.

But, it is ok, and really, I wish you can feel how we Giants fans feel.

One more thing though…
So in week 6 or 13 of any NFL season, someone asks you ‘who’s the best team in the NFL,’ you unequivocally answer “nope, can’t answer. no way to answer until the superbowl, and then that team is the best, no if’s ands or but’s about it. That’s the best team and there is no argument and until then, there is no best team. Blank. And I refuse to even speculate on who the best is.” Haha, becasue that’s how you’d have to be to not be able to understand what I’m saying about a team being arguably the best team. Those aren’t “so-called” favorites. They are just “favorites.”

east96st as a 9er fan I give you kudos to the haters trying to diminish the Giants accomplishments this year. I totally agree with you in your assessment of next year. Everyone will be gunning for the the SB champs as they always do but you’re right, a lot of it comes down to key injuries. I think in addition to Seattle, teams better pay attention to AZ next year as well. PHI isn’t going to stay down for long either. Every year someone pops up. This year it was SF. Ppl who write them off as a fluke are dilusional. Ask any team who played them. I guarantee you the Saints and the Giants don’t think they’re a fluke.Congrats to the Giants and their fans. They made all the key plays when it mattered most, period. That’s why they’re SB champs and nobody else is.

As always, people will pick Philly (without reason) to win the division, and Dallas somehow winning 11, with the Giants going 8-8 with a roster full of Pro Bowl snubs and underrated (in the tri-state???) players.

If we can avoid the 15-18 guys on IR issue in 2012, and don’t lose Manningham and Umenyiora, I don’t see why not.

UNLIKE GREEN BAY AND NEW ORLEANS, whose defenses did them in, ours is Top 5 when healthy; which it hasn’t been since the middle of 2010, when they were indeed Top 5.

axespray says:
Feb 8, 2012 3:00 PM
nice to see giants fans actually show up on PFT…. after they win the superbowl…. smh, fairweather fans probably spent the last two years wearing their jets uniforms.
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