I recommend looking at the seams where the chains attach to the bag. The sturdier the better, because this is where most of my bags have ripped over the years. Six chains is better than four. Title bags have worked out far better for me than Century or Everlast.

Just a fair warning. Stuffing a Bannana bag your self can be a huge pain in the ass. You can find them fairly cheep on e-bay, and Kwon has one that is 99$ not stuffed. Remember, you get what you pay for.

I am not a big fan of theirs either. Had one of their bags rip bad one time. Back in the early to mid 90s they were one of the only places to get some things (Liek bannana bags and Thai Pads) These days they are all over the place. I agree there are a ton of better options out there now days.

Abracadabra - thread necromancy. Any reviews of the KO Fightgear bags? They're vinyl instead of leather. I'll be hanging it outside under cover on my back porch. Seems like the vinyl would be more resistant to mold and mildew, but would the vinyl last as long in terms of repeated impact stress?

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Originally Posted by chuey...Well **** if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi **** I have heard in ages.

They actually have a bag that is made for outside. It has a nevatear outer and I think it is filled with rubber on the inside. So it is supposed to be able to get wet and dry without molding. That's what they say any way. I've got a 70lb bag and hated it the first time I bought it. I went up to a 100lb bag and loved it. Then I got a 110lb bag from grant and I love it. It is the best. Big and heavy and they stuffing doesn't sink all the way to the bottom too bad. I've had it for about 6 months and use it 3 times a week. You can't even tell I've been using it.

I don't see any reason to go heavier than that. I'm a hard puncher and kicker and the movement isn't bad on the 110lbs.

Are you going to hang it from the roof or get a stand? That makes a difference too.

They actually have a bag that is made for outside. It has a nevatear outer and I think it is filled with rubber on the inside. So it is supposed to be able to get wet and dry without molding. That's what they say any way. I've got a 70lb bag and hated it the first time I bought it. I went up to a 100lb bag and loved it. Then I got a 110lb bag from grant and I love it. It is the best. Big and heavy and they stuffing doesn't sink all the way to the bottom too bad. I've had it for about 6 months and use it 3 times a week. You can't even tell I've been using it.

I don't see any reason to go heavier than that. I'm a hard puncher and kicker and the movement isn't bad on the 110lbs.

Are you going to hang it from the roof or get a stand? That makes a difference too.

I'm going to hang it from the roof. For now, that means steel rafters with a tin roof over a concrete deck.

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Originally Posted by chuey...Well **** if that isn't the most anti-Mr. Miyagi **** I have heard in ages.

The main thing you have to think about when you hang it from the roof is: if the chain is long and the bag is light, then it flies all over the place when you punch or kick. If you get a bag that has a strap on the bottom or a D ring, then you can anchor it to a sand bag or something on the ground. That would keep it from moving around too much.

If you get a heavy banana bag that touches the ground, you won't have to worry about it too much. But the bottom will be scraping the ground. The 110lb Grant bag that I have, has a strap on the bottom so you can anchor it if you won't. It wasn't too expensive either.