Speak Out 9/9/08

Tuesday, September 9, 2008

Getting addicted

WE DO not need more social and educational programs, or any programs for that matter. When this stuff is handed out like Kool-Aid from Jim Jones, people become dependent on the government to take care of every aspect of their lives. This leads to irresponsibility and lack of drive. This is exactly what the Democrats want: people to get so dependent on them and their programs that they will have no choice but to vote for them. Success lies with those who earn it, not those who drink the Kool-Aid.

County roads

FOR TWO years we have heard about the inadequacies of the Cape Girardeau County road-improvement projects. Many of us hoped that the new sales tax and the road advisory committee would be stepping stones to better roads, even though the county commission decides whether they will or won't follow the committee's recommendations. Now the advisory commission is expressing its disappointment as once again the county highway department shows it is not up to the job at hand. By now I am sure that a million dollars or more has been raised by taxes to fund these improvements that continue at an ever slower pace. It is time for people to realize that the one thing that has not changed is management. Until there is a management change, there will be no improvement. The only other choice is to do like the guy on County Road 316 and do most of the prep work yourself. If you want it bad enough, you will do it. One's own resolve is the only thing you can depend on. If you don't have the resolve to make the changes or do the work, you need to quit complaining about the roads.

Childish behavior

MAYOR JAY Knudtson is showing how childish and petty he can be. An adult elected and hired by the taxpayers to represent the people of Cape Girardeau would put aside his petty childish feelings and work with the elected commissioner for the good of his constituents. "I won't speak to you because I don't like you" is the action of a 2-year-old. I have out-of-town relatives who read the Missourian and e-mail me how funny, pathetic and entertaining these elected children are.

Exposing the network

I CAN'T figure out who Commissioner Jay Purcell's opponent is. One week I thought it was Morley Swingle. Another week I thought it was Gerald Jones. Now I think Mayor Jay Knudtson is running against him. It really doesn't matter. Purcell won my vote once he started exposing the good-old-boy network.

Fun with politics

IT SEEMS that Republicans are signing on to this theme of change. But wait a second. Why would we need to change anything? The Republicans have had our presidency for eight years now, and until the last election they even had a majority of Congress. So why would we possibly need to change anything? Oh, perhaps they are now willing to accept that perhaps the Republican government has done something wrong. And how about taxes? Who out there believes that your taxes are too low or just right? Everyone, every day, everywhere complains about taxes. But wait, theoretically they should be low, since we have had a Republican president for eight years. Has President Bush lowered our taxes down to where everyone wants them? Of course not. Did he promise to? Of course he did. Politics, what fun.

Digging up dirt

REPUBLICANS accurately legitimized the National Enquirer when the scandal sheet uncovered the truth about John Edwards' sordid affair. However, now that the magazine has dug up substantial dirt on Sarah Palin the silence of the GOP is either deafening or the party hypocritically dismisses the National Enquirer as of no substantive value.

Reason for support

GERALD JONES admitted that he likes to have one-on-one meetings without public scrutiny. Now the mayor of Cape Girardeau admitted that he likes to meet with Jones privately. I can't vote for the mayor of Cape Girardeau, but I can vote for Jay Purcell. As the popular saying goes, "Have you had enough?" We need real change that breaks up the good-old-boy network.

Point well taken

THANK YOU, David Limbaugh. We get it. Democratic women's-rights advocates ordinarily say women can do it all but oppose Sarah Palin. Conservative Republican women claim it is best to have stay-at-home moms but support Sarah Palin. As you said, Mr. Limbaugh, it is rank hypocrisy. Your even-handed point is well taken.

Crony capitalism

THE FEDERAL government takeover of Fannie May and Freddie Mac illustrates again the abject failure of the Bush administration. Will taxpayers end up subsidizing speculators who invested in these mortgage giants, deregulated by the Republicans? Of course they will. This is crony capitalism at its worst. Can our economy stand four more years of government by Republican lobbyists? No way.

More unemployment

BASED ON an anecdotal comment by a Speak Out caller, I am somewhat reluctant to believe in his proposition that times are good. I base that observation in large part on the fact that, according to the latest report, thousands of more jobs have been lost and the unemployment rate is at an all-time high.

Sex education

ANOTHER THING that vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin is against, besides abortion, is teaching of any kind of sex education in schools, including abstinence. Now her own unmarried, 17-year-old daughter is pregnant. But I am sure the two are not related.

Greatest country

IT'S FUN to read the comments about politics. The vast majority of American citizens are middle-of-the-road, hard-working, ordinary people who want to better their lives. They want nothing more than the opportunity for their children to have a better life. We live in the greatest country in the world where living conditions have never been better, but the radical extremists in both major parties want you to believe that the sky is falling and the country is going to hell in a handbasket. Nothing could be further from the truth.

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2 years ago the Democrats took over the Congress. In 2 years gas prices soar and they say the economy is in the tank. Unemployment goes up after the minimum wage goes up. Wow, I wonder what helped cause that. Have you noticed the price of a fast food lunch is now? Guess what we get to do it again next year. More raises in cost more layoffs, which equal less people working more people taking handouts, which equal HIGHER TAXES. Lower taxes helps create jobs by spurring growth and new ventures.

-- Posted by Solelicious on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 4:40 AM

2 years ago the Democrats took over the Congress. In 2 years gas prices soar and they say the economy is in the tank. Unemployment goes up after the minimum wage goes up. Wow, I wonder what helped cause that. Have you noticed the price of a fast food lunch is now? Guess what we get to do it again next year. More raises in cost more layoffs, which equal less people working more people taking handouts, which equal HIGHER TAXES. Lower taxes helps create jobs by spurring growth and new ventures.

-- Posted by Solelicious on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 4:40 AM

Babe, in several of your all-knowing posts here, you have used the word "enthused." I hate to burst your bubble of infinite wisdom, but there's no such word.

The lending industry is another example of the little people covering the big peoples a$$es. Working class vs. capitalist. We get tooled, they get rich. Then we go back and elect the some old group who allowed this, to do the same old things to us again and yet we expect a different outcome. Brilliant on our part.

They bring up the same old topics every 4 years and we buy it every 4 years. Gays, abortion, family values. Why can't they get anything done on these issues...it's their big 3? Where are their succeses in these areas? I believe it is planned UNsuccess...and here we are again and they play the same old tune that worked before. And it could win again. Brilliant.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 7:51 AM

The Freddie/Fannie federal bailout only concerned the private sector - mortgages on homes. Wait to see what happens when the market falls out of the commercial sector! The current problem pales in comparison.

-- Posted by RocketSurgeon on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 7:58 AM

"government redistributing wealth for the benefit of the politically connected super-rich. (That's how socialism always works in practice, of course.)"

-- Posted by Hilleco on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, 6:55 am CDT

That's it exactly! And we the people, let it happen over and over again. Keep McCain and we don't have a shot at change (we've already seen that game played), but we haven't seen Obama play it yet (and it might not work either, but at least we the people, made an attempt to go for a win).

-- Posted by concerned4all on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 8:04 AM

Hilleco

You are correct and the change in wording absolutely works for me.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 8:20 AM

Hilleco

The republican and democrat parties came from what our

country is based on,it's called freedom. If you don't like what they are doing move to a communist country and see how you like it there.

-- Posted by newman90 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 9:14 AM

The Government has NO buisness taking over and bailing out pathetic companies who loaned money to millions who

should not have been given credit!These two companies should be privatized!I am sick of bailing out these banks and lenders for their poor an unethical practices.I say let them founder and than pick up the pieces and move forward!Lets let the private sector bail these fools out and not the Tax payers!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 9:52 AM

This is sooooo sad...

His mother inquired as to what float and the classmate said 'Republican'. He was given a t-shirt and had great fun throwing the candy and waving the flag. He told me of it afterwards and said to me 'we don't like those demacraps, do we?' Priceless!

-- Posted by BABE on Mon, Sep 8, 2008, 9:20 pm CDT

One of the greatest gifts you can give your children is the opportunity to think for themselves. The above is just an example of "brainwashing". I wonder if the classmate had said the Democratic Float, the mother would have said sure. You know it would have made NO difference to the child. As it is now, he is trying very hard to please his pedantic grandparent who is a confused and bitter individual.

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 9:52 AM

More unemployment: do just a minute of research before you say something so stupid. Yes, unemployment is up to the highest rate in 5 years (I wonder what would happen without 12 million illegal immigrants competing for jobs?) but it is nowhere near the all time high. If you wanted to verify that, here is one site you could visit.

Please point out ONE specific thing the most recent Congress has done to actually cause those things you mention.

-- Posted by FriendO on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 10:21 AM

I live on a gravel county road in North Cape County that gets traveled on quite frequently by the few families living on our road and by alot of people who use it as a cut through road. They have to do alot of maintenence to keep the road up because of all the traffic. It would probably make more sense to go ahead and pave it. But then we find out the county is spending our tax money to pave a dead end county road that only 5 families live on and a county road that only has 1 mile in Cape county and then it switches over to Perry county. Makes alot of sense, huh?

-- Posted by LulaBell on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 10:25 AM

iago1 - in reference to Babes use of the word "enthused", which you say is not a word. It means encouraged, motivated, inspired, etc. Hate to burst YOUR bubble, but enthused most certainly is a word.

(Sorry for using your caps Me'Lange)

-- Posted by Hawker on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 10:48 AM

One of the greatest gifts you can give your children is the opportunity to think for themselves. The above is just an example of "brainwashing". I wonder if the classmate had said the Democratic Float, the mother would have said sure. You know it would have made NO difference to the child. As it is now, he is trying very hard to please his pedantic grandparent who is a confused and bitter individual.

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, 8:52 am CDT

Brainwashing? My grandson's parents, grandparents and great grandparents are all conservative Republicans. He learns many things from all of us. He comes to me frequently to talk history, current events and politics. An example would be that the other day he came running to say that on the Nick channel they said to vote for Obama. He asked me if I would vote for him. I said "no, because your mother would have to pay more taxes and have less money to buy your tennis shoes". He said "okay". Is this brainwashing? I think not. I sing my grand children an honest lullabye, always. And I don't mean to shock you but the kids were yelling "no Obama" on the float during the parade. giggle

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 11:41 AM

He asked me if I would vote for him. I said "no, because your mother would have to pay more taxes and have less money to buy your tennis shoes". He said "okay". Is this brainwashing? I think not. I sing my grand children an honest lullabye, always. And I don't mean to shock you but the kids were yelling "no Obama" on the float during the parade. giggle

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, 10:41 am CDT

You call this HONEST? Since when can you honestly tell the future? I am ashamed of you and I pity your family....no giggle....tears maybe.

This certainly echoes my thoughts.Its too bad this went this far!Now it could easily worsen our economy such that it woulf be difficult to ever recover.Frankly speaking,these lending companies and mortgage giants along with the elite Washington crowd

have screwed this up almost beyond repair.This could easily toss us into a much worse economic down swing and even depression down the pike.Credit is out of control in this Country and its beyond time to try to fix it.Thank God I do not have any owed credit but too many people prefer to borrow far more than they can pay back.This has become the American way.If you don't have the cash now just borrow it and hope you can pay later.Someday this attitude will catch up with us.Perhaps it already has.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 12:06 PM

Just

I'm a product of a Christian conservative environment.

-- Posted by Just_Me_and_My_Opinion on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, 11:03 am

Some day we can discuss just how ironic this statement is....but it will take more time than I have today.

By sitting down and discussing issues with your child, you are educating. When you say this is how I feel and why, you are giving him your views and opinions.

But....if you say, you will vote (do) this, because I specultate (dream) this, you are not giving your child the opportunity to think for himself.

God gave us free will, right? He expects us to utilize it wisely, but use it none the less.

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 12:09 PM

Fun with politics and Sex Education

Boy oh boy didn't those comments sure hit the nail on the head! Right on guys!

As well the person who commented about republicans every election focusing on three main subjects: Abortion, Gays, and Family values. What a big change we have seen with that over the last 8 years.

I am all for gay marriage. I hope that soon someday in Missouri gay people are able to express their feelings for each other and join in a union recognized by the state.

People often state that politics and religion should be left apart. Then why is it that republicans so often let their religious views influence the way they vote, when in fact their party can do nothing to change the matters they feel so strongly about(Abortion, gays, family values).

Please someone tell me what has McCain done for us? Other then supporting Bush whacker 90 precent of the time. Sure shows what he has done for our people. Represented an supported the same person(Bush) that he is trying to distance himself from now in his own campaign. Now answer this please, if McCain feels so strongly about change, why 90 percent of the time he supported Bush. I CALL THIS A VERY LARGE LARGE LARGE FLIPFLOP!! YAY .........giggle giggle giggle!

-- Posted by soccerguy010 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 12:29 PM

Is it November yet?????

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 12:35 PM

Hey Ya'l,

none of this political crap will matter at noon tomorrow as the Hadron Collider will at the speed of light smash protons ceating a black hole that will destroy the planet!This accelerator is in France and part of Switzerland.Maybe we will get lucky and it will only take out France!LOL

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 12:38 PM

Greywolf,

Your following that too? Something that has a option clause such as "...or destroy the Earth by creating a blackhole" has me lean to the right of "Holy Cr*p! Why are they trying this?"

But then we can rewind back to 1492 and see the same instance when science was the fire rod. Try it. What else could go wrong with the world?

Besides, Bush is still in office, I'm sure Mr Ballew can find a connection to the President and this experiment. Blame Bush! But if it works, Obama and free thinkers are soooo cool.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:06 PM

Hilleco

Notice, that the past post was label free. Just to let you know I'm going to couseling sessions for Labelers. Labelers Anonymous; for those members of society who think everyone should have a warning sticker on each and everyone's foreheads.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:11 PM

What boggles my mind is why McCain is this attractive to the republication nation this time around. What happened 8 years ago??? Was he not that great of a guy back then? I think the repubs dropped the ball on this one. If McCain is such a great guy now, I am sure he was a lot better 8 years ago. But now the repubs put an idiot in the office for 8 years so I guess the republican party really doesn't set the bar that high..

Yay for Politics.

oh and I guess when you are 72/73 years old(however many it may be) and have many years in the gov. you can accomplish to get things done. And yes this is true you cannot compare Obama to McCain. Obama being young fresh standing for change, McCain old maybe alittle washed up, second hand material(he wasn't good enough the first time why is he now?). After all that many years in the gov. After all that many years as a politician with out any dramatic actions to show some sort of change, I guess he stands for the same old same old.

-- Posted by soccerguy010 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:11 PM

fajar,

good to hear from you!Hope all is well with you and yours bro.Yep this is quite an experiment.This accelerator ring is 17 miles round.It is the largest nuclear accelerator on the planet.Talk about smashing atoms,wow!I recall when President Johnson said one of the biggest decisions he made was to allow the accelerator in Batavia Illinois to be built!It has only a 3 mile ring!The one in the southwest I believe is 7 miles.The Hadron collider is huge in comparison.

I sure hope this scientist knows what he is doing!!

Hell,the size of the accelerator over there, if it suffered a melt down, could melt a hole all the way to

the core of the earth!I had the oppurtunity to tour the Batavia complex and it is awsome!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:17 PM

Soccerguy

"Please someone tell me what has McCain done for us? Other then supporting Bush whacker 90 precent of the time."

WOW! Bush does both the Legslative AND Executive Branches. How can he write bills, put them through commitee, sign/veto, and spit them out as laws? So HE'S the one who has made ALL 90% of those bills into laws. Simply amazing considering he's been accused of being a moron for years. Smartest moron if he's reinvented the whole US Government right underneath our noses. Doesn't the Senate and Congress do those things when they're not doing anything?

He would've gotten away with too if it wasn't YOU and your pesky kids Soccerguy.(Ref, Scooby Doo)

Hilleco,

No labeling. Just sarcasm.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:19 PM

Yup Hilleco I do care who gets elected however I am sick and tired of everyone in here bashing each other its driven how many people away because of their political choices??? Look at what Just_my has been posting for the past month "what has BO done" blah blah blah blah I know he wants to hear NOTHING and then MAYBE he will SHUT THE FFFFF UP!!!!!!

Sorry Hilleco I am not frustrated with you I am frustrated that people won't just leave it alone thank people for the info and drop it.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:19 PM

I swear its like a room full of a bunch of d a m n e d pushy telemarketers that don't know what NO THANK YOU or I AM NOT INTERESTED MEANS!!!!!!!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:21 PM

Just Me...

Remember where the Bible says such as "For inasmuch as ye do it unto the least of these, ye do it unto me." Now that is a very "giving statement".

I am sorry, but the conservative movement is much more focused on "God helps those who help themselves"....which is not biblical by the way.

I believe in helping those in need...and I know there are people who abuse the system as it is designed. That is something "they" will have to address come "judgement day". I believe in the concept of welfare.

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:23 PM

GREYWOLF

Without refering to it, won't it take 6 mo to a year to get up to speed AFTER he turns it on? How about the shutdown operation IF (big if) something goes wrong?

How big of a Carbon Footprint do you think this thing makes? How many MPGs. Probably less than Al Gore's monthly home heating/cooling bills. HA!!

-- Posted by fajar154 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:24 PM

Hilleco

It's cool. I have thick skin and I'm just a sarastic pr*ck at heart.

I have a saying, "If you can't make fun of yourself, then there are 6.5 Billion people on this planet who could use a good ribbing."

Smile bub, it's only war.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:28 PM

Nickey,

I will have to agree with you.

Its getting very hot in here lately.

I have done my best not to get involved with

all this name calling and idiocracies!The Demopublicans are out in force at least until

Nov.4th!!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:29 PM

Just

How bout you quit sounding like broken record since nothing is good enough to suit you???? I asked for info didn't get much but took what I got said thank you and moved on. I didn't sit there and make it the object of my obsession for a friggin month!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:29 PM

Why was the Honorable President Bush nominated in 2000 instead of McCain? Delegate votes would appear to be the simple answer.

-- Posted by Just_Me_and_My_Opinion on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, 12:18 pm CDT

Laughing....he certainly didn't win the popular votes in the election though....laughing

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:31 PM

Greywolf

Yes they are and some people wonder why younger people my age don't care sometimes about politics. Look at what it turns people into? Why go through life hating someone just based on their ideas and thoughts. May as well be back in the dark ages with no freedoms. ENGLAND HERE I COME!!!!!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:31 PM

Ya know Just_Me_and_My_Opinion, Ted Kennedy and his family have given a lot to this country too (made some pretty tough personal sacrifices, supported special needs kids from way back, and have helped in all kinds of other areas as well), but whenever his name comes up...he gets blasted. Funny huh? And before you bring up the Ted's car crash...I don't believe it was done on purpose anymore than I believe Laura Bush's accident that killed, was done on purpose. So sure, John McCain has done some good, it just doesn't mean he would be a good president. He's not honest anymore. IMO

-- Posted by concerned4all on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:32 PM

Nickey

I would respond to you but your daddy 'bashes' me when I do. giggle

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:33 PM

OMG...learned not pre-conceived...

You are not going to get in a Religious debate are you?

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:33 PM

Palin looks like Sally Fields.

All she needs is a "habit" (sp?)

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:35 PM

Babe

If you could respond to people in a civilized manner and not accuse them of being someone they are not maybe just maybe you wouldn't get bashed. ever think about that? You don't debate you attack on a personal level almost everyday.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:38 PM

Theorist

President Bush has stated that he did not run his campaign to win the popular vote but the electoral vote. It's just one of those political savvy methods of winning. giggle

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:43 PM

Just

That is the kind of statement that could get you into trouble. What I am stating is simply to stop beating a dead horse. If you are not satisfied with the answers you are getting STOP ASKING THE QUESTION. You notice that no one is answering any longer because they realize you are not going to be satisfied with ANY answer given to you.

I could care less what happens next season on American Idol and I don't watch Soaps. But I can tell by your choice of Avatar that you are a bigotted chauvanist (sp?) so naturally me being female you would ASSUME that I would care about that. Sorry if its not on discovery channel or the history channel or dealing in the paranormal or forensics then chances are I don't watch it.

Thank you for showing me how narrow minded you really truely are though.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:46 PM

Gotta go for a while. Have a good afternoon everyone.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 1:53 PM

First off I don't support either New world Order candidate A or New World Order candidate B. They both will work for their masters first and we will get the leftover crumbs as usual.

As far as a candidate not having his name on legislation, I think that is a positive credential. We would be better off if Congress just sat around playing cards all day and just left us the heck alone.They could be on call if something came up where they were actually needed.

Every time they pass a new law we all pay through the nose. The people who benefit most are the lobbyists, bankers, and the fascist corporations. (disclaimer: not all corporations are fascists and not all politicians are evil, but many are)

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 2:12 PM

All day and NO Goodbody posts. What gives? Welfare check day?

-- Posted by fajar154 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 2:16 PM

From yesterday:

Who Me?, appreciate your response last night. Appears to be a great day out for you and your guys.

-- Posted by Pups on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 2:21 PM

Do you like my new "Christian" avatar? You should because it's on the back of our "Christian" dollar bills. People raise he** about removing In God We Trust off of the money, yet they don't have a problem with this occultic Illuminati symbol.

I guess they think it is God's eye lovingly watching over us and not big brother. But look closely. It's not even a human eye. It looks more like a reptile or a dragon's eye in the pyramid doesn't it? Look at all the scales around it and their are no lashes. Let's see now, who was called that old dragon in the Bible? It wasn't God or Jesus was it?

I know, I know, the people who call me a conspiracy kook probably do think it is the merciful eye of God watching over this "Christian" country.Or better yet, they will say "there's no eye on the dollar at all." "You are making that stuff up."

The treasury has redesigned all of the other paper money but not the evil satanic back of the dollar bill. Why is that? Maybe someone should ask Barry or the Maverick why those symbols are there and if they will take those demonic symbols off of the dollar. I bet not, because their NWO handlers know what those symbols mean and they're not going anywhere.

I will accept your apology, even though you are too proud to make it.....

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 2:42 PM

Who could possibly care what symbol is or isn't on a dollar bill. I would be seriously worried about anyone so obsessed with something like this to give it that much time and energy and even more so if they really thought it made any difference one way or the other.

With all that is going on in the world, someone is actually sitting around studying bills of currency and expecting us to be alarmed.

Yes, I know I should have known better than to read it and it will not happen again; list of posters to skip only increases with time. Don't even read my own anymore.

-- Posted by D'oh on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 2:44 PM

allamerican

Gov Palin will twist off Biden's head and throw it at him in their debates. giggle

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 2:46 PM

MEN IN LOFTY PLACES, THE OLD FARTS COFFEE CLUB, and, The Souls of Rock Finch & Jay Purcell

In my opinion:

Years ago, when I became politically active was warned about a group of men who pretty much run this town. They dictate their whims to the City Council, and County Commission, and if you want to get ahead in politics, you had better do what they say, or, some say that they can destroy you. These men like a compliant City Council and a very obedient County Commission. Therein is the problem. This shadowy group, comprised of some of Cape Girardeau's most recognized names, pretty much get their way. Jay Purcell is a thorn in their side. Jay isn't going their way. Jay is going his own way, a way of righteousness, and that doesn't sit well with the Old Farts Coffee Club, nor, the men in lofty places.

It is a shadowy group, that about 15 years ago was referred to only as "The Clique." Today, their street name is a reference to the lofty place in which they meet. I use the term lofty in regard to the altitude at which they meet, not as a measurement of the attributes of their ventures.

Ronald Reagan when he campaigned in 1980, railed against such groups as these. Reagan was most concerned about a similar group at the national level, the Council on Foreign Relations. The CFR, a shadowy group, according to Reagan wielded too much influence over national policy. In Cape Girardeau, it is alleged that these groups, the Old Farts Coffee Club, and the men meeting in lofty places Club have, in my opinion, a stranglehold over City and County government.

Some of these men should know better. Some of them are known in their churches as Christians. However, when one human being attempts to use the power that they have to destroy another human being, in this case, Jay Purcell, who would not go along in their alleged nefarious plotting, then one cannot count them as Christians, no matter how loudly they profess it, nor, no matter how much money they spend to gain a favorable judgment of themselves in the community, or, in their church.

Father Malakai Martin, a former Jesuit Priest who was stationed at the Vatican, once told a secular, national radio talk show audience heard here in Cape Girardeau, that God was most interested in how we treated our fellow man; how we enteracted with one another. Father Martin went on to say, that we should not throw stones in the path of our brothers on their their earthly journey to obtain the rewards of Heaven. In other words, we should not do anything to another that may cause them to do something of bad judgment and, therefore, fall from grace. If we have been the catalyst for this person to fall, then that blackens our soul. It is a grave sin. Once we begin to sin in this manner, the sins of greed, power and corruption, each future sin becomes a little easier to committ, and at some point, we become lost. We may have a Guardian Angel, or, some manner of Heavenly guidance, but at some point, the sin in us is so vile, that they may withdraw for awhile because our sinfulness is so revolting to them. Destruction of a human spirit, by casting stones in his path, as has been done to Jay Purcell, is not pleasing to God.

Some of these "club" men are in their later years. Time for them to repent of their sins, to atone, and become worthy of Heaven grows short. Regardless of age, not one of us is certain as to when we will be taken. We all hope to live to very old ages, but we have no control over God's timing for us to be judged.

Therefore, we should ready ourselves and our souls as if our time was this afternoon, or, sometime tomorrow. With each passing day, the time remaining to us for repenting and atonement grows precipitously shorter.

Time grows shorter, as well, each passing day for those who aid and abiet those who wield power in this city and county. Compliant members of the City Council and the County Commission, also, near judgment by God with the coming of each morning sun.

Nothing that which has been promised to you, or, given to you for your compliance, or, silence will accrue to your good. For, one day, this life we have will pass. You will be judged, along with those who courted, or, dictated to you.

I have not seen one funeral procession where there was a U-Haul following the hearse. Meaning, all that you now possess is for naught. You will leave this earth, as you entered...naked, with only your soul.

Rock Finch knows why he is running against Jay Purcell, and I believe that he knows full well what those members of the Old Farts Coffee Club, and the men who meet in lofty places expect of him. I know Rock, and it grieves me that he would throw his lot in with them. I would hope, and do pray that Rock does the right thing, before it is too late for him, and he is caught in their alleged web of power, greed, and deceit.

Those who have cast stones in the path of Jay Purcell, the Lichenteneggers, alledgedly in interesting land dealings during the widening of Broadway at West End, and others in this city, for the profit, or, pleasure of themselves, or, "friends" will be judged by God accordingly.

Got Soul?

Just my opinion.

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 2:52 PM

Saying Palin looks like Sally Field is a huge compliment. What? You have a problem with Sally Field? You have a problem with Nuns? You have a problem????

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 2:55 PM

Danke!

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 3:02 PM

Marble Hill water / sewer rates going up: Summary of last night's City Council Meeting:

D*mnit! Spoke too soon. Oh well heading to Chicago and be back to play golf with my fellow Zionist Goat worshippers by the weekend. Be carefull of what you learn and preach, the NWO will send the Black OP helicoptors to your homes.

We know where you live.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 3:13 PM

Just don't look at any dollar bills, Lord only knows what could happen.

-- Posted by D'oh on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 3:17 PM

TO WHOM DOES CAPE GIRARDEAU PRESIDING COMMISSIONER, GERALD JONES, ANSWER? What person, or, group is pulling his strings?

Just My Opinion:

Well, there it is. It is better than in black and white, it is in audio.

On Cape Girardeau County Commissioner, Jay Purcell's website, http://www.jaypurcell.com/ShutUp.asp, you can hear Presiding Commissioner Jones, say that he is supposed to "report back to" at about 2 minutes and 5 seconds into the audio. Wow, just how does Presiding Commissioner Jones..."report to"?

For me, that was the final straw. I have placed my vote and support behind Jay Purcell. I don't want Presiding Judge Jones reporting to anyone. I want him to be his own man, to make decisions that are in the benefit of the people, the citizens of Cape Girardeau County, not some shadowy group like the Old Farts Coffee Club, or, the men who meet in lofty places.

You must hear the audio for yourselves. We have a problem in Cape County government. If it weren't for the courage of Jay Purcell in making these recordings, we would go along like happy little sheep, not knowing what was really going on in our government.

Thank you, Jay, for standing up and taking a stand against smoke-filled, backroom politics that only benefit the few who consider themselves the priviledged, the ill named, "movers and shakers" in this County.

The only thing that I want shaken up, is that **** Cape County Government. Jay, you are the man for the job. As that great philosophical group, KC and the Sunshine Band, once said.... SHAKE, SHAKE, SHAKE!

Just My Opinion.

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 3:18 PM

Hey Goodbody(mike)..

Are you sleeping with your pal Jay?

Purcell is the most untrusting and dishonorable

Commissioner this County has.Oh now!,don't get me wrong here.The other two are less than human as well.

Purcell is a trouble maker and has been for quite some time now kinda like you!Your tirade defending this jerk is typical of your ignorance on this matter.

Purcell's use of his recording device will cost him his cushy little job and it should!He and the rest of that 3 ring circus MUST go!We need real men running this County not a bunch of lizards!Tell me Mike,what has Purcell done to make this County a better place to live?Oh and please refrain from telling me he is fighting the GOOD OLE BOYS.He has not done a **** thing since being elected except cause trouble along with the other two!I can't wait to see them all gone.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 3:53 PM

opinion dude,

Of the 15 bills Senator Obama sponsored or co-sponsored in 2005-7 that became law:

Two addressed foreign policy:

Promote relief, security and democracy in the Congo (2125)

Develop democratic institutions in areas under Palestinian control (2370).

He will not have the legislative record of McCain or Kennedy. However it also does not appear that he has been sitting on is duff either.

-- Posted by SWBG on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 4:07 PM

McCain's Legislative Record

When considering who to vote for, it is necessary to consider not only a candidate's positions, but his record. While believing something in theory is fine, just as important is what a candidate would actually do about it. The best indication that we have of this is what he has done in the past.

Senator John McCain has been a legislator for many years, and has a long record. He has sponsored a number of bills that deserve close examination. McCain's bills are always cosponsored with a liberal Democrat such as Ted Kennedy, John Edwards, Russ Feingold, and Joe Lieberman. Also, McCain's name is always listed first.

There is McCain-Feingold, the campaign finance reform act. This bill significantly restricted political speech, specifically the ability of people to lobby their government. Advertisements that ask people to contact their representatives near an election were banned.

There was McCain-Kennedy, the massive amnesty proposal that was defeated in 2006 and 2007. This bill would have given amnesty to almost all illegal aliens, massively increased government welfare spending, increased national disunity, increased the threat of terrorism, increased crime, and more.

There was McCain-Kennedy-Edwards, the so-called Patients Bill of Rights, which would increase government regulation of health care and make lawsuits against hospitals and doctors much easier (not surprising given the involvement of trial lawyer John Edwards).

There was McCain-Lieberman, a bill that would have imposed so many regulations on gun shows that it would have effectively banned them, according to the NRA.

There was the other McCain-Lieberman, which would have imposed global warming regulations that would have cost America $76 billion annually.

In addition, there is the recent revelation from Senator Rick Santorum that McCain actively opposed allowing social conservative measures to have votes in the Senate.

"And then on the issue of, on social conservative issues, you point to me one time John McCain every took the floor of the United States Senate to talk about a social conservative issue. It never happened. I mean, this is a guy who says he believes in these things, but I can tell you, inside the room, when we were in these meetings, there was nobody who fought harder not to have these votes before the United States Senate on some of the most important social conservative issues, whether it’s marriage or abortion or the like. He always fought against us to even bring them up, because he was uncomfortable voting for them. So I mean, this is just not a guy I think in the end that washes with the mainstream of the Republican Party."

While McCain is one of a hundred senators, as President he would have a lot of power to thwart such legislation behind the scenes provided that Republicans ever retake Congress.

There's nothing wrong with working with Democrats if the legislation is beneficial. But McCain's legislative efforts have consistently aided liberalism.

-- Posted by SWBG on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 4:23 PM

Black Shadow aka B.S. wrote: “Who could possibly care what symbol is or isn't on a dollar bill. I would be seriously worried about anyone so obsessed with something like this to give it that much time and energy and even more so if they really thought it made any difference one way or the other.”

That's the whole problem B.S. Few people have cared and that is one of the reasons why we are in the shape we are in. It is not just the dollar bill. Their satanic symbols are all around us hidden in plain sight. We have trusted politicians instead of God. The politicians have tickled the public’s ears with lies and platitudes and the people sleep thinking someone is watching out for their best interests. The people have excused the evil behavior of their chosen leaders even when they know in their hearts it is wrong.

All the while, our country is being looted. Our children are being sacrificed in war in exchange for money for the elite. Innocent people in other countries are being killed because of never ending war. Mothers are aborting their babies at the rate of 1.5 million per year. Nearly 50 million since 1973. I would call that a holocaust. Pornography is rampant and is destroying once healthy marriages. Our young girls are acting like hookers and the young boys oblige. This country has turned into a deviant sex and death cult and that is what the wicked New World Order elite wanted.

The news media and Hollywood tell us that this is all normal and good for us. I have a tough time believing that God is blessing this once great country.

Who could possibly care B.S.? I care. I have been studying these demonic people and their evil system for almost 40 years. I learned from people who had been watching the evil elite before then. The Illuminati symbols may not mean anything to you B.S. but it does to them or they wouldn’t be there. They are a eugenic death cult and that is what those symbols represent. We haven’t seen anything yet compared to what is to come. I have read many of their writings and it is horrifying what they plan to achieve. They certainly worship a god alright, but it is the satanic god of this world and not the God of mercy and goodness whom the rest of us claim we worship.

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 4:28 PM

Just_Me_and_My_Opinion

Hey buddy, I just wanted to make a comment and I did - thanks for asking.

And no, I don't want to debate...you don't debate and you don't listen, but I will feel free to comment ANYTIME I please. You keep believing as you do and trust McCain (keep your blinders on) and remember that Cindy McCain gave money to help the less fortunate.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 4:35 PM

Info_Warrior (talk about a bastardized phrase),

Oh, you are so clever. I don't doubt there are problems in the world, but what is or is not printed on our currency is not one of them. Will I be safe if I only use checks and never touch or look at actual currency? Symbols affect no one, only actions.

I am far more worried about tin foil hat wearing paranoiacs than symbolism.

-- Posted by D'oh on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 4:42 PM

Whew, some folks should just stay away from doing dope and hard liquor.

I have nothing against the burnout who posts here, sometimes, he can be thoughtful, and other times, amusing. Then again, when the dope kicks in, he's a mess.

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 5:04 PM

To Speakout caller who claims that social and educational programs lead to irresponsibility, lack of drive, and dependence on government to take care of every aspect of their lives. I know you're talking about Republican Rod Jetton, who collected welfare money and lived in subsidized housing while a student at Southwest Baptist in the late '80s with a wife and child. And he turned out to be a slacker who draws salary and benefits from the taxpayers in exchange for doing absolutely nothing.

-- Posted by grisgris on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 5:24 PM

Hilleco:

No secret tapes, just been getting citizens down to city hall to see the action with their own eyes.

I would like to point out that it is not the mortgagee who would default, but the mortgagor (the person/persons actually given the loan.) There is a big difference there.

-- Posted by motrans on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 6:30 PM

The bailing out of Fannie May and Freddie Mac is an exercise in futility. It is merely replacing paper with paper but it will satisfy for a few days. The truth is that the government has no wealth that is not already obligated for debt. In other words the faith and confidence in the dollar is now just faith. In 2003 the combination of national debt, trade deficit and personal debt was 66% of the Nation’s wealth and much of the wealth was privately owned and not available as collateral for debt. Today’s dollar is paper and ink – period. That is why the value of the dollar in the international market is declining rapidly

-- Posted by Techno on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 7:44 PM

M'lange wrote:

motrans,

Very true. Thanks for correcting my error.

I didn't intend to point out your error as an error on your part, just wanted to clarify for some who might have a question. In any case IMHO, most people have no idea who their mortgagee is and it doesn't matter on a day-to-day basis as the payee of their mortgage payment may or may not change. What matters is the long term effects. Fannie & Freddie were entities to whom mortgages could be sold; therefore, freeing up funds for other loans. Without these 2 entities, $ in the conventional loan business will definitely be tighter; thus making it harder to buy a home.

Long time until November. We will see. I will stick with my original prediction of a Dem in the White House in January. If nothing else it makes for good entertainment. I scarcely believe (much to the chagrin of those on the extremes) that my life will be significantly affected either way. Four years from now I will likely be doing much the same as I am now.

Bad news for you. The grandson came in today all excited about he and his pals 'junior Republican' club. They don't want to ride a float but march in the street in the next parade like the big guys. Hello, Semo Young Republicans, you have a new breed of younger Republicans. giggle

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 11:20 PM

Who Me

Do you think we trust what Ted Stevens has to say? There are plently of reports who say different. And Palin clearly flip-floped on this deal. She also kept the pork for other pet projects.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 11:33 PM

suelynn

I think we all know what 'lipstick on a pig' means. Obama used it delibertly and he is now in deep doo doo. giggle

I predict that Obama will soon be firing all his speech writers and reorganizing his campaign with more firings.

We shall see what we will see.

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 11:34 PM

Babe

And I think you like to spin it and I ain't buying your load. She's weak and it's showing.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 11:37 PM

suelynn

Do you find it obnoxious that Gov Palin would keep fed money even if there was no bridge? I hope all Alaskan taxpayers got back money that they have paid in for years to the federal government.

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Sep 9, 2008, at 11:41 PM

Ditto the comment about the M'Lange morning music selection. Excellent choice. Here is another of Billie's beautiful songs to send you to sleep. The jazz back-up band on this video were some of the best ever.

How could Bruce and the band be looking so happy? It is 2003, two years into the bush fascist war criminal regime. The killing, maiming and torture of the people of Iraq has started, how could Bruce be smiling? Clarence be wailin' good.

I was playing this song in Jacksonville, NC in 1967. I loved it then, I still do. I don't know if it was a hit in this area, but it sure was with me.

MAKE ME YOURS

Bettye Swann

I never had a love to call my own

I was about to give up

And then you came along

Just to have your tender kiss

Thrills me for days and days

I don't care what nobody says

I want you for always

Now that I found you

I want to stay around

So make me yours, make me yours

You already captured my heart and my soul

Now I want you to take full control

I need the love that only you can give

If I can't have it

I don't want to live

I never had a love so sweet

I never thought I'd be lucky enough to meet

A guy with all your charms to hold me with loving arms

Make me feel secure and warm

Caused my heart to run

Now that I found you

I want to stay around

So, make me yours, make me yours

Now that I found you I want to stay around

So, make me yours, make me yours

Take me baby if you want me to be

So, whatever you need you can always fine in me

Yeah love me and keep me by your side

Wherever you go I'll always be satisfied

All of my friends said girl don't

But I know what I need and I know what I want

I want to be yours

You're the only one

And I will give to you happiness in return

Cause what you need, baby I've got it

What you got, I'm just crazy about it

If you're looking for a love that you'll never get tired of

Make me yours, make me yours

Baby, make me yours

Not just for a little while

But forever my darling, make me yours

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Wed, Sep 10, 2008, at 1:13 AM

Jay Purcell dropped out of the Fair Parade Monday night. To the people that are confused about who is running against Jay Purcell, his name is Rock Finch. I find it interesting that Purcell dropped out of the parade. Sources say it was from a temper tantrum he had thrown earlier that day. It's a shame, too. His kids would've loved to be in that parade. What a selfish act.