March 19, 2013

A lot of young girls — they’re expected to give blow jobs now. Young, young girls, as far as I can perceive. Maybe 12 or 13 years old. I mean, that’s a rite of passage, I suppose. As a feminist, I don’t want those girls to be used. Maybe they love giving blow jobs, I don’t know. Maybe they do? But I don’t think you really love giving boys in general blow jobs without any feeling to someone you’re not close to. I don’t try to speak for people that young. I’m not that young anymore.

She's 73.

But my own sense of self—I wouldn’t give myself away that easily.

That’s part of the culture, and I don’t like that it’s put on teenyboppers and young girls. They should be developing themselves in a different way than just being sexually accessible. Or looking good. I don’t like it being brought back to the time where girls were competitive and disliked each other, this whole concept of cat fights and girls being jealous of one another. You still see cartoons on Saturday morning where there is the nice girl and the mean girl, and they’re competitive for the boy who is kind of goofy and ignorant . . . it’s like an old stereotype. But I don’t think you can beat too much humanity out of too many humans too quickly.

NitneLiunBelieve me little girls are giving little boys blow jobs on the bus in full view of everyone but adults. If you're a 12 or 13 year old boy who's self-confident and/or good at sports you won't have any problems. Just a guess...you don't fit the profile.

To the extent that feminism crosses with the sexual revolution, feminism bears some responsibility for guys getting blow jobs. Thank you.

Obviously, it's terribly ironic that a movement partially founded on the idea that women aren't sex objects has made women greater sex objects than ever before.

But, much of feminism is completely misguided. The emphasis on the illusion of "equality" rather than freedom and liberty brought about much of the harm. Feminism expects women to perform work, career and social tasks in roughly the same proportions as men rather than seeking more freedom for women, and everyone in general. Forcing people into roles rather than letting them freely follow the path they desire doesn't lead to good outcomes.

It was such a surprise to me as a young adult to find out that the progressive, feminist, sex-positive utopia I was promised as a teenager growing up in liberal culture* was actually demeaning and objectifying, not to mention dangerous to my actual physical and emotional health. Meanwhile, the Catholic church, which I had been taught hated, oppressed and disrespected women, was waiting in the wings for me to discover that my sexuality is a precious gift from God and when handled according to his design inflates my dignity and worth, instead of pushing it into the mud.

Others' mileage varies, of course. But this was my experience.

*I grew up near Seattle and avidly read the free newspaper The Stranger, going straight to each installment of Dan Savage's sex advice columns.

But, before long I think Althouse is going to figure out how to domesticate you.

What a load of nonsense, edutcher.

Palladian has been here since pretty close to the start (unlike you), and yet she's never made much inroads in what you chose to describe as "domesticat[ing] [him]"--as if that was a goal of hers (or even as if she truly tried to do so). LOL!

My first thought was: Palladian is who is he is and Althouse never has questioned nor tried to change that.

My second thought was: WTF? What the hell is *edutcher* about, this time.

Hmm...I've been here since roughly the 6th day, and I don't think I've ever noticed Althouse attempting to "domesticate" anyone. (Always excepting, of course, Meade, but I think a curtain was drawn over that process, so who can say which way it went?)

It was such a surprise to me as a young adult to find out that the progressive, feminist, sex-positive utopia I was promised as a teenager growing up in liberal culture* was actually demeaning and objectifying, not to mention dangerous to my actual physical and emotional health.w

Well, I don't know what to say about this, other than that, starting somewhere around '73-'75, I had an intensely allergic reaction to various things which led to skeptical responses and a default world-view that has never left me, and which I never left behind.

Awww. Palladian.I'm so sorry to hear that. My widowed disabled older sister is being evicted from her home. She still has payments and just retired with an income of $1100.00 a month. I can't see a good outcome for people with huge mortgages who are underwater if they're over 45 or 50. It's a scary world. She's coming back to Wyo to live near family, but finding a place for her will be a trick.I hope you get a roof over your head soon.

It is ironic that hated Christianity, particularly Catholicism, elevates a woman to the status of the Mother of God, eternally and perpetually a virgin. She is beyond exploitation and is the ideal loving mother.

Well said Lilly! It breaks my heart to see what girls are "expected" to do these days and put the blame for that on the gays for trying to impose their sexual values on heterosexuals and on the feminists for aligning with the gays on that issue.

Well said Lilly! It breaks my heart to see what girls are "expected" to do these days and put the blame for that on the gays for trying to impose their sexual values on heterosexuals and on the feminists for aligning with the gays on that issue.

TORRINGTON, Conn. – Two members of the Torrington High School football team have been charged with sexually assaulting a 13-year-old girl, who has been taunted on social media sites in recent weeks by dozens of classmates upset at the allegations.

The Register Citizen reports the two 18-year-old football players, Edgar Gonzalez and Joan Toribio, have been charged with felony second-degree sexual assault and other crimes in an investigation that began last month. Both have pleaded not guilty.

A while back I was thrown into the company of some college age girls. A lot of them had tattoos and piercings. I was, nonetheless, surprised to learn that they were level headed, decent, and good people. I don't know the details of their intimate lives, but, on the surface anyway, they looked fully equipped to carry on the business of marriage and child raising.....All my life sexual mores and morals have been loosening, and wise people have been predicting the imminent collapse of civilization. Maybe someday it will happen, but I don't think sexual excess will be the proximate cause.

I really enjoyed Lily's performance in "Web Therapy". Wow, reading this interview takes me back. I was born in 1961 - was 6 or 7 when "Laugh-In" began broadcasting. My mother MADE ME watch the show, telling me "This is good stuff - you NEED to watch this." I was 6! And of course, I obliged.

I really enjoyed Lily's performance in "Web Therapy". Wow, reading this interview takes me back. I was born in 1961 - was 6 or 7 when "Laugh-In" began broadcasting. My mother MADE ME watch the show, telling me "This is good stuff - you NEED to watch this." I was 6! And of course, I obliged.

Surfed: On any given day, my middle school students have more sex that all the commenters here combined for a year.

Drago: How many students do you have at your school? What percentage of them engage in sex? What percentage of them engage in sex on an "average" day at your school? How did you establish the number of "commenters here"?

Chill, D. Most of the commenters are middle-aged or older and are married. On any given day, any five middle schoolers have more sex than all the commenters here have had in the past five years.

Nomennovum: "Chill, D. Most of the commenters are middle-aged or older and are married. On any given day, any five middle schoolers have more sex than all the commenters here have had in the past five years."

LOL

I hear you. I'm "max chillax" (as the "young people" say).

I was simply pointing out how vacuous Surfed assertion was and how I'm pleased that my children don't have to attend an institution so backward it would hire someone like surfed.