Ubuntu abandoning Upstart and is switching to systemd....umm...prolly because Debian is switching to systemd so bye-bye init scripts but it'll be some time. Already available in the unstable branch(sid) and used proudly on distros based on it. The latest Gnome also depends on systemd.http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=n ... px=MTYwNDE

Last but not the least I'd like to mention how I've waited so long for something like wayland to happen to linux.Linux will never be the same with wayland. A formidable resistance for the adoption of linux in the desktop segment has been X(protocol, server, the entire stack etc etc).

X is and was never bad but it only addressed the problems of its days whereas all the newer iterations that required varied hardware, functionality and interfacing was added in a modularized fashion as and when needed. This eventually resulted in a fragmented state of implementation. Nvidia and AMD have done more than immense work to iron out and hide the flaws of X. One such feature is the screen-tearing option that is available with catalyst and rather than it being handled and simplified by X, its actually external code doing the work....

Wayland? Does that mean that if you want a mouse on the desktop it will be in a far far A Wayland???? Have that junk in Gnome 3.10 and so far have no way to get a cursor on the desktop so am getting it that the idea is not to be able to use the desktop, right?????

BBOSAK2143 wrote:Wayland? Does that mean that if you want a mouse on the desktop it will be in a far far A Wayland???? Have that junk in Gnome 3.10 and so far have no way to get a cursor on the desktop so am getting it that the idea is not to be able to use the desktop, right?????

Do you know what X is?Do you know what wayland is?Do you know how to program in C and use gcc?Do you know how to use gdb?

Calling this and that 'junk' means you know nothing about the technologies and sounds obnoxious.

On gnome 3.10 its experimental and does not work by default. It requires KMS(Kernel Mode Setting) support. Moreover it requires patched drivers with wayland support from AMD, Nvidia and Intel.

This is how it looks now...its an emulation of wayland.

wayland running with weston

The X equilvalent of the above is a raw graphical session with a terminal window(without shadows) reminiscent of the unix days.

There will be bugs initially but who cares when devs are active and the bugs will be ironed out in a little while.

Wayland isn't designed to please the user, its basically getting linux ready for developers to allow easy coding with games and a ton of other softwares that work on windows and Mac, rather than referencing the Xlib programming manuals.

Ask your questions about your graphical problems in that manner, so that we can help you to solve any glitches and screen related issues....no graphical related issues will ever get skipped by me unless the hardware is f*****.