The Triads

Coolyfett

The Liberty City Triads are a gang made up of people of East Asian origin based in Portland Island, Liberty City. Though the Liberty City Triads appear to be a petty street gang, it is evident that they are beginning to dabble in organized crime; including extortion[1], most notably that of Mr. Wong's Laundrette, which is the source of several problems for the Leone family, as well as pushing drugs for the Colombian Cartel via "Chunky" Lee Chong. They also own The Turtle's Head Fish Factory in Callahan Point, Portland. They are the initial enemy of Claude, while he works for the Leone family. An all-out war between the Triads and the Leones erupts as the Triads attempt to muscle in on Leone businesses in Chinatown, which the Triads hold majority control over[1]. The war concludes after three of the Triad warlords are assassinated and their fish factory is destroyed by a Mafia truck bomb (interestingly enough, the warehouse belonged to the Leones during Liberty City Stories until the Triads blew it up). While it is improbable to say that the Triads are finished in Liberty City, they have definitely been irrevocably weakened because of the loss of their most powerful front.

In GTA III, Triad members wear blue boiler suits and black bandanas. In GTA:LCS, they wear blue tracksuits with their gang logo on the back, black or blue pants, and black sunglasses.

In GTA IV Triads appear in the game around China Town, but not much is known about them as they only appear in a few missions. There are three different sets making of the Liberty Triads in the LCPD Database. One group of Triads are under Hsin Jaoming and his son Chan Jaoming. Another is led by Wu "Kenny" Lee and his nephew Huang Lee. The third is controlled by Zhou Ming. The Jaoming Triads is said to supply the Angels of Death and Korean Mob with narcotics.

Flesh-n-Bone

The same Triads as from GTA3 is my hope. I really liked them and their clothes, too bad they were made like a street gang and you were against them both of times.

I want the Chinatown Wars story to continue at 2003. Where you are a Triad (from III) and they have gone at war with the mafia again for revenge. Now the Leone's are weakened by Sal's death, Toni Cipriani is fat and about suffering from a heart attack. Joey is a wimp and Luigi is a pimp. Mickey Hamfists is forced to lead the organization but he is too weak. The Triads get themselves a new leader and attack a Leone controlled casino. They then destroy Luigi's club and set it on fire, while Luigi and Mickey are there. They leave on a bike but you go after them and kill them. Toni Cipriani dies of a heart attack afterward and Joey Leone is followed to the warehouse (formerly owned by Leone's, then Triads' fish factory, now again Leone's front.) When on the way going inside he's attacked by you (protagonist) and murdered. The Leone's are leaderless and weakened to hell. Saint Marks is slowly beginning to be expanded by the Triads and the casino (from LCS) becomes the safehouse of yours. Then Salvatore's house is taken over by the Triads leader and Marco's Bistro is renamed to "Triads Burger House". Leone's are forced out of Portland and completely eliminated. The Cartel are allies so Triads and Cartel together take out the Yakuza on the Staunton Island strand making both gangs stronger. The Diablos and Yardies are on war, Cartel allies with Yardies and Diablos enemies of Triads. Both go with Yardies and the Diablos are weakened considerably and only control a small area of Hepburn Heights with Yardies spawning and fighting them. In Shoreside Vale the Hoods are too strong and don't play which forces Cartel to leave Cedar Grove and head over back to Staunton and control Fort Staunton again after the Yakuza's lost.

No,the Leones are too popular.They would never wipe them out.Besides,if it is in GTA3 canon,few people would want to be an LC Triad.An SF Triad maybe,but few can relate to the LC Triads.It's probably gonna be GTA4 Triads or if it is GTA3 canon then the main character will probably be a Yakuza/Mafia man who fights the Triads.

The Leone Family is one of the most popular gangs in the GTA3 canon,so it's about damn near impossible to do your crappy formula.No offense,but that story sucked.I'm not saying this as a Leone fan,I'm saying this as a realist.The Leones are too popular and the LC Triads are rather unpopular.That formula could only work if you were San Fierro Triads driving the Leones out of Venturas.

I like some of your ideas,but this one is just plain dumb.It's probably gonna be GTA4 Triads anyway.

Flesh-n-Bone

In what way do you consider this 'criticism'?I just wrote my own story, and I hate the Leone's because they are so damn overrated even though there's hardly anything special with them aside from being a 'Mafia family'.

Yes I would love a story based on the Triads rising again after the death of Sal and wiping out the Leone's.

You can write your own story about the Triads ceasing to exist, no one's told you otherwise

And I'm not writing this to draw your attention - but rather for what I like as an story, you can write your own, I wont get around and call it crappy and etc...

Angelo Leone

Meet Cai Wei.He is a young Chinese immigrant new to Liberty City.Having no money and no connections,he ends up living in an abandoned warehouse in Shoreside Vale.The Triads,having lost a war with the Leone Family have opened up shop in Shoreside Vale and merged with the San Fierro Triads due to the loss of influence in Portland.Cai Wei meets a Triad named John Wong,who gets him to do small jobs.Rising up through the Triads,Cai encounters several people and runs afoul of the Southside Hoodz.He meets the insidious Wu Zi Mu,the leader of the Triads as well as his lovely daughter Wu Chan.Doing big work for Woozie such as killing D-Ice and destroying the Witchita Gardens hideout pays off,but when Cai and Wu Chan fall in love,Woozie tries to kill Cai.

Cai and Wu Chan flee to Staunton Island and meet a Leone Family made man named Johnny Torrio.Torrio helps Cai get established in Staunton Island and helps bring down the Colombian Cartel and Yardies.Then Cai starts working for Leone Capo Mickey Hamfists.

Mickey Hamfists has a beef with the Yakuza,but following a gun battle,they make peace and vow to destroy the Triads and their drug trade.Doing work for Yakuza oyabun Yuka Kasen,Cai Wei destroys a Triad ship full of weapons.Then he gets back in the Leone Family and goes to Portland.

In Portland,he meets Luigi.Luigi assigns some jobs that begin the Chinatown Wars(similar to the gang wars in SA and the Empire Building in VCS).Chinatown begins to fall under Mafia control bit by bit and Joey Leone teams up with Cai Wei and they strike the Triad territories in Shoreside Vale.

Finally,Cai Wei meets the Don of the Family,Antonio Cipriani.Toni vows to end the Chinatown Wars by hitting the Triads where it hurts.In a special mission,Cai Wei flies the Dodo to Las Venturas and robs the Four Dragons Casino(kinda like how you visit Liberty City in SA).Finally Woozie kidnaps Mayor Miles Donovan,Donald Love(who has returned to Liberty),and Wu Chan.So Cai Wei takes Johnny Torrio,Mickey Hamfists,Luigi,and Joey Leone to attack Woozie's mansion in Shoreside Vale.

They raid the mansion and Cai Wei fights Woozie in a Gun vs. Knife fight,with Cai Wei using a Colt Python and Woozie using throwing knives.

Coolyfett

The same Triads as from GTA3 is my hope. I really liked them and their clothes, too bad they were made like a street gang and you were against them both of times.

I want the Chinatown Wars story to continue at 2003. Where you are a Triad (from III) and they have gone at war with the mafia again for revenge. Now the Leone's are weakened by Sal's death, Toni Cipriani is fat and about suffering from a heart attack. Joey is a wimp and Luigi is a pimp. Mickey Hamfists is forced to lead the organization but he is too weak. The Triads get themselves a new leader and attack a Leone controlled casino. They then destroy Luigi's club and set it on fire, while Luigi and Mickey are there. They leave on a bike but you go after them and kill them. Toni Cipriani dies of a heart attack afterward and Joey Leone is followed to the warehouse (formerly owned by Leone's, then Triads' fish factory, now again Leone's front.) When on the way going inside he's attacked by you (protagonist) and murdered. The Leone's are leaderless and weakened to hell. Saint Marks is slowly beginning to be expanded by the Triads and the casino (from LCS) becomes the safehouse of yours. Then Salvatore's house is taken over by the Triads leader and Marco's Bistro is renamed to "Triads Burger House". Leone's are forced out of Portland and completely eliminated. The Cartel are allies so Triads and Cartel together take out the Yakuza on the Staunton Island strand making both gangs stronger. The Diablos and Yardies are on war, Cartel allies with Yardies and Diablos enemies of Triads. Both go with Yardies and the Diablos are weakened considerably and only control a small area of Hepburn Heights with Yardies spawning and fighting them. In Shoreside Vale the Hoods are too strong and don't play which forces Cartel to leave Cedar Grove and head over back to Staunton and control Fort Staunton again after the Yakuza's lost.

No,the Leones are too popular.They would never wipe them out.Besides,if it is in GTA3 canon,few people would want to be an LC Triad.An SF Triad maybe,but few can relate to the LC Triads.It's probably gonna be GTA4 Triads or if it is GTA3 canon then the main character will probably be a Yakuza/Mafia man who fights the Triads.

The Leone Family is one of the most popular gangs in the GTA3 canon,so it's about damn near impossible to do your crappy formula.No offense,but that story sucked.I'm not saying this as a Leone fan,I'm saying this as a realist.The Leones are too popular and the LC Triads are rather unpopular.That formula could only work if you were San Fierro Triads driving the Leones out of Venturas.

I like some of your ideas,but this one is just plain dumb.It's probably gonna be GTA4 Triads anyway.

Why do you hate the Leones anyway?

Well.....I agree that the Leones are very popular & that CTW will be based on GTA 4 LC. Good valid points and observations.

As far as LC Triads being the least favorite, that will all change come release time. Do you agree with that?

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the main character will probably be a Yakuza/Mafia man who fights the Triads.

The protagonist of Chinatown Wars WILL be a Traid member fighting to protect & control his gang. You will be a Triad Member...assuming a Chinese character (which is a first for GTA & a good thing in my opinion).

Gabriel Constantin

Sorry Angelo Leone, I forgot GTA was a popularity contest not a game. If Rockstar really cared about which gang was "most popular" then they wouldn't of killed of Salvatore, would they? Or have you work against him in San Andreas. Silly moose.

I personally like the idea of fighting The Leones. I didn't mind working for them in III and LCS, but having to work for them again in CTW would just be too much. I'd hate it. If I had the choice, I'd defiantly choose to play as the Triads rather than any other gang in Liberty City.

To me, the fact that it's called Chinatown Wars leads me to believe that it will revolve around two Triad Clans fighting for control of Chinatown, Liberty City. That makes the most sense to me.

EDIT:Angelo, I just read your plot idea... And you said Flesh N' Bone's idea was stupid? Seriously? You're made me laugh out loud so many times. At least his was feasible.

If you played LCS you will remember The Sindaccos didn't allow JD O'Toole to be made because he was part Irish. If they wont let someone who is part Irish be made, what makes you think they'll let a full blooded Chinese person join the family?

Flesh-n-Bone

Actually if it wasn't for LCS the Leone's and Sal would have not been half the popularity they got now. When GTA3 was released nobody cared about popping Salvatore's head from the roof across that club. He was just the old man leading the organization and stabs you in the back, just kill that guy and go ahead in the game. In SA we got to see him again there you worked for him and at the same time stabbed him in the back (to connect it to his paranoia in III). Then R* thought about making a PSP game based on the backstory of the Leone's before 2001 where your the fat guy Toni Cipriani in his younger days... There the Leone's and Salvatore became popular, just as much as Grove Street and Vercetti gang are (because they are your gang in SA/VC.)

I'm a little bit surprised that Vance Crime Family didn't get half the popularity they deserved for being your gang but that's only because R* put 'em so random with gang members randomly recruited from each corner of the streets.

Angelo Leone

And the reason why they had CJ work against the Leones and Sindaccos in SA was to give us a refreshing break.

As for killling Salvatore,that was before the Leones got so popular.

Chinatown Wars will be in GTA4 canon.If it was to be in GTA3 canon and you were a LC Triad working against the Leones or Yakuza,then people will trash it.The LC Triads are probably one of the most hated gangs in GTA3 canon,unlike their San Fierro counterparts,who are quite cool and popular.If you actually helped the LC Triads from GTA3 all the way through,it would get bad reviews(unless it was more revolutionary than III,SA,and IV combined.) so it will be the GTA4 Triads.

EDIT-Gabriel Constantin,nowhere did I say that Cai Wei became a made man,he was just a handy man that fell in love with Woozie's daughter and only worked with the Leones for survival.And Flesh-N-Bone,as dumb as my idea was,yours wasn't that good either.Also,the Leones were popular because you worked for them in GTA3,not to mention their cars and powerful weapons.LCS threw more fuel onto the fire.

Gabriel Constantin

Chinatown Wars will be in GTA4 canon.If it was to be in GTA3 canon and you were a LC Triad working against the Leones or Yakuza,then people will trash it.The LC Triads are probably one of the most hated gangs in GTA3 canon,unlike their San Fierro counterparts,who are quite cool and popular.If you actually helped the LC Triads from GTA3 all the way through,it would get bad reviews(unless it was more revolutionary than III,SA,and IV combined.) so it will be the GTA4 Triads.

Rockstar doesn't care about which gang is "most popular." Like I said, this is GTA not a popularity contest. Rockstar only cares about telling a good story and selling as many units as possible.

The only people who will "trash it" when they find out you're playing as the LC Triads are people like you. Leone Fanboys who have their heads shoved so far up Salvatore's rotting corpse that the only thing they can smell is mouldy pizza and spaghetti and meatballs.

People kept saying that San Andreas wouldn't fare well because CJ was black, but it's now the greatest selling game of all time. Not to mention of the entire GTA franchise. What makes you think, I'm sorry, know, that Chinatown Wars will fare so badly if you play for The LC Triads?

Most actual fans will play any game with the GTA name on it. Not to mention the casual gamers for whom CTW will be the first GTA they will ever play. Stop pretending you work for Rockstar's Sales department, take your head out Sal's ass and look into the light: CTW will do well, no matter what.

Angelo Leone

It could work,and even if it people wanted to play as an LC Triad,it'd be a GTA4 Triad.R* has moved on and left the GTA3 canon to rot.

Sadly,that means I'll never get to see a game where you play as Woozie or Salvatore in their younger days(Woozie in the 70's where he goes blind at the end,or Salvatore in the 50's where he becomes Don.)

Flesh-n-Bone

And Flesh-N-Bone,as dumb as my idea was,yours wasn't that good either.Also,the Leones were popular because you worked for them in GTA3,not to mention their cars and powerful weapons.LCS threw more fuel onto the fire.

When did I even claim mine was good? I just gave an idea for what I would like as a storyline because that's what the OP talked about.

Gabriel Constantin

It could work,and even if it people wanted to play as an LC Triad,it'd be a GTA4 Triad.R* has moved on and left the GTA3 canon to rot.

Says who? Rockstar have only said that it will be set in a modern day Liberty City. That could mean either a modern day GTA III, Liberty City, a modern day GTA IV Liberty City or even, heck: A modern day GTA I Liberty City. We don't know.

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Sadly,that means I'll never get to see a game where you play as Woozie or Salvatore in their younger days(Woozie in the 70's where he goes blind at the end,or Salvatore in the 50's where he becomes Don.)

Yes, because we all want to play a game where once you've completed it you loose all the visuals.

I feel GTA4 is modern day, that GTA3 is more like an expiremental GTA. As Sam expressed talking about RN and Sony's PS3... The hardware is what REALLY allows developers to unlock the dreams in their heads. A number of key interviews showed -if you took the time to read some of those links here- that they felt GTA's potential is locked into what the hardware allows and then expanding on the PS2 platform was limiting as well.

If they'd concentrated that effort on PC and ported down to consoles, it would have been detrimental as well to those players, maybe not so much on the game itself.Who's to say which arena to favor on a hardware front, but so far, there's been some noted leaps forward that can benefit all the series ( mainly the most powerful I am referring to, not portables)

HandiThug

There are three different sets making of the Liberty Triads in the LCPD Database. One group of Triads are under Hsin Jaoming and his son Chan Jaoming. Another is led by Wu "Kenny" Lee and his nephew Huang Lee. The third is controlled by Zhou Ming. The Jaoming Triads is said to supply the Angels of Death and Korean Mob with narcotics.[/i]

Which of the 3 do you think Chinatown Wars will be based on?

Joaming Triad

Lee Triad

or

Ming Triad?

it will most likely be joaming clan...they had a lil role in gta 4. that is who i will go with.

skarface1013

I hope it is set in GTA 4 Liberty City. I think it will be about a man working his way up in the Triad ranks. There will be a rival Triad Organization, as well as the Russian and Italian Mobs that the main character will probably have to deal with. I think R* can make this a good game for the DS. Whatever the story is, doesn't matter to me as I'm buying it regardless.

skarface1013

It makes more sense to stay in the GTA 4 canon. If they were going back to the GTA 3 canon they should have made a GTA San Andreas Stories instead of going back to Liberty City again to play as the Triads who were basically destroyed by the Leones. The GTA 4 Triads seem much stronger and are split up, unlike the old LC Triads who were basically just one glorified street gang.

Flesh-n-Bone

It makes more sense to stay in the GTA 4 canon. If they were going back to the GTA 3 canon they should have made a GTA San Andreas Stories instead of going back to Liberty City again to play as the Triads who were basically destroyed by the Leones. The GTA 4 Triads seem much stronger and are split up, unlike the old LC Triads who were basically just one glorified street gang.

Well Salvatore died shortly after the Triads lost the war, so they have the chance to hit back when the Leone's are in critical condition. I like the III era a lot more than the boring IV one.

skarface1013

I loved the GTA 3 canon, but it's over now. GTA 4 has been released and we are moving on with the new canon, R* basically said the past GTA games, GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas are non existant in the GTA 4 canon. Think of it as two stories that do not co-exist, kinda like GTA 2 and GTA 3. I will always remember the GTA 3 canon and will continue to play the games. Whether I enjoyed them more or less than GTA 4 is irrelevant, the fact is we are moving forward, as it seems the most logical thing to do. It just wouldn't make much sense to go back to the GTA 3 canon. I will miss the classics tho

About the Leones, you make a good point and I wouldn't mind playing as the Triads trying to take over the Leones. Could be a cool storyline, I always wanted to see things from the other side as the Triads fighting the Leones. However, we know that either Toni Cipriani or Joey leone will probably become the next Don, they have better weapons than ever before and they still control Saint Marks, so I'm not quite sure if the Triads would be able to take them out. They gotta organize their hustle first.