Rose Colored Glasses?

The general consensus I see in a lot of places is that the first episode of season 1 was much better than season 2 episode 1. I thought that at first, but the more I look back on the first season, the more I question whether that's true.

I remember the first episode of season 1 kind of dragging for me. Whereas this one was a little too fast for my liking, Season 1 episode 1 was too slow. It also felt ridiculously longer and not necessarily in a good way. I spent the rest of the season wondering why episode 1 felt so long. I definitely enjoyed myself during Season 2 Episode 1 more than the first time I played season one. Then again, I'm attached to the game much more than I was back then.

As for emotion, I think Season 2 has Season 1 beat for the first episode. Though to be fair, we know and care about Clementine already so it had built in emotion.

I just don't think there's such a huge difference between the two episodes. Both have their flaws but both come out about equal to me in terms of writing and enjoyability. It's always expected that the first will be the best the end and the nostalgia factor colors people's view a lot. What do you all think?

Memory is not to be trusted. People remember the first season. But I doubt many can correctly remember the feeling after the first episode alone.

I have no opinion either way. I enjoyed both first episodes and am looking forward to the next. It's only after the end of this season I will judge. As long as it doesn't get totally ridiculous on the way.

Our group's character development was indeed stronger in TWD S1E1. Perhaps spending some more minutes as young Clem in the introduction, speaking more with Christa after the unexpected time jump or getting to know the new cast a bit more would have made this episode better in my book.

A longer introduction sequence with Clem finding the pair, and even a more or less hopeful conversation around a fire in the outskirts of Savannah before arriving at Gil's would have made Omid's death all the more touching. Plus, symmetry for that depressing camp scene later on with Christa.

Christa, if dead, was a wasted opportunity. Imagine all the resentment she may hold (conscious or not) towards Clem. Her gun was the weapon that killed her husband and potentially caused her baby to die (If it died). She cares about her, but is bitter at the same time. This can be explored further in the season, possibly.

Finally, the new group. Again, I think their introduction was done nicely. Where is the followup to that? She survives the shed and ends on more or less friendly terms with most of the survivors and we're supposed to make a decision that will potentially affect the group's dynamic without knowing who these people really are.

Finally, the new group. Again, I think their introduction was done nicely. Where is the followup to that? She survives the shed and ends on more or less friendly terms with most of the survivors and we're supposed to make a decision that will potentially affect the group's dynamic without knowing who these people really are.

I think that this particular point has been planned consciously so. At that point in the story Clem is not supposed to know much about the new characters. That feels certainly different than the first season where at the end of the first episode you knew the characters way better. But again season 2 is not just a repeat of season 1. And that's a good thing.

Finally, the new group. Again, I think their introduction was done nicely. Where is the followup to that? She survives the shed and ends on more or less friendly terms with most of the survivors and we're supposed to make a decision that will potentially affect the group's dynamic without knowing who these people really are.

I can understand why you didn't get to know the group, Most of the group doesn't trust Clem, this is mentioned many times throughout the episode, In fact the only one who actually says that they trust Clem is Pete.

This is a totally different situation then in S1 E1 where you met the group in the drug store.

I kind of like the alienation from the new group. We already did the quick integration into a group thing in season one and the variety is pretty cool. In season one, after we met Kenny and family, we were a group that joined up with another group after a few hiccups. In this season, we're a lone little girl who through a series of unfortunate events ends up in a group that doesn't really want her there and at the same time we don't necessarily want to be there either.

I think it's a different dynamic and we really are basically "listening through a door" to figure out what a new group is really all about. Sure you want to know the characters well right off the bat but Telltale seemed to realize that it wasn't quite realistic in this scenario. Remember, in the first season people were more accommodating because the zombie apocalypse had just happened. Now everyone is understandably more cynical and suspicious and that it reflects in the game is good writing. Lee would have probably gotten a horrible reception if we'd been playing as him. He probably would have been shot right away.

However, an issue I have is how cruel and suspicious they are towards Clementine. I understand being careful and cynical, but this is still just a little girl. It doesn't read quite believable to me.

Great post, I do believe that the group is supposed to be mysterious, in that you're not supposed to get to know them yet, and I don't know why people keep comparing this to S1 E1 because group-wise it's 2 totally different situations.