Obama on SB: “We do not yet know why this terrible event occurred”

Meanwhile, Farook is described in this piece as a “devout Muslim” at a time when devout Muslims are waging war against the U.S. and calling for strikes against civilians inside the country. Yes, not all devout Muslims are waging this war, but the idea that his motive is a mystery is absurd. If a German national committed mass murder on American soil in 1943, no one would be wondering about his motive.

“The striking difference between the San Bernardino suspects and other mass shooters,” by Yanan Wang, Justin Wm. Moyer and Peter Holley, Washington Post, December 3, 2015:

Hussam Ayloush, executive director of the Council for American-Islamic Relations in Los Angeles, told The Washington Post that Farook and Malik had been married for two years and left their 6-month-old child with Farook’s mother that morning.

The couple told the grandmother that they had a doctor’s appointment and needed her to take care of the child, Ayloush said, adding that she had been concerned Farook and his wife might be among the victims of the shooting when neither of them answered their phones. Authorities identified Farook and Malik as the gun-wielding attackers who killed 14 people and wounded 17 others before dying hours later in a shootout with police.

“I have no idea why he would do something like this,” Farhan Khan, who is married to Farook’s sister, said at a news conference held by CAIR late Wednesday night.

That Farhan Khan would run to Hamas-linked CAIR to say this is telling.

The police chief said that while authorities are still searching for a motive, “we have not ruled out terrorism.”

Farook was a San Bernardino County employee who had worked for five years as an environmental health specialist in the public health department, which was hosting the holiday party where the shooting occurred Wednesday. According to state employee records, Farook’s total compensation in 2013, including salary and benefits, was $71,230.

Farook was born in the United States, Burguan confirmed. Malik was born in Pakistan and spent time in Saudi Arabia before marrying Farook, said Ayloush, the Muslim community leader.

Farook was born in Illinois after his parents immigrated to the United States from Pakistan, Ayloush told The Post….

The dating profile, posted to a site “for people with disabilities and second marriage,” includes a description that matches what is known of Farook so far.

Second marriage? I.e., polygamy?

The profile’s “About Him” section introduces someone who works for the county as a “health, safety and envorimental [sic] inspector.” It further states that he is from a religious but modern family of four, lives with his parents and enjoys working on cars as well as “just hang out in back yard doing target pratice [sic] with younger sister and friends.”

In interviews with the Los Angeles Times, Farook’s co-workers in the public health department said he was “quiet and polite, with no obvious grudges.”

“He never struck me as a fanatic, he never struck me as suspicious,” Griselda Reisinger said.

Fellow inspectors Patrick Baccari and Christian Nwadike said the “tall, thin young man with a full beard” rarely started conversations, but he was well-liked and spent a lot of time in the field.

They said Farook recently traveled to Saudi Arabia, coming back with a wife he had met online. He was a devout Muslim but didn’t discuss religion at work….

Comments

Barack – I’ll let you in on a secret. It was Islamic terrorism. I know this doesn’t fit the narrative. I know it doesn’t support your crusade for gun control. I know it goes against your Muslim faith to admit it, but you are just about the only person in this country who hasn’t figured out why this event occurred. Hope & change.

It happened because they want to kill you , well maybe not you but certainly all other Americans. His answer to this horror more gun control yea that is going to keep the AKA’s out of the hands of jihadists ………………..this guy keeps repeating the same old script……………Hello Trump .

Hi, Mo. Thank you for your comment. You are absolutely correct. Obama should be impeached for failing to act as he promised “to degrade and destroy ISIL,” and for failing to enforce immigration laws, among other things. These failures have endangered the American people and started the US on an economic, moral, and social downward spiral. Unfortunately, our country has been taken over by a mindless, clueless Liberal ideology which, for many on the Left, is akin to a religion. Freedom of speech is no more. Anyone in America who dares to express an opinion that opposes the Liberal narrative is quickly silenced and called “racist,” “xenophobic,” and “Islamophobic.” I wish we could impeach Obama. But all we can do is hope and pray for a non-Muslim president in 2016.

Heck yeah it’s time to impeach our President; he should have been impeached, tried for treason and thrown in jail a long, long time ago! How he gets away with all this crap, I have no idea. I majored in Political science, and honestly, I don’t remember a whole lot, but one thing I do remember is separation of powers, and it seems as though this president has usurped the powers of the other branches and no one is going to do a darn thing about it until maybe it’s too late.

He was just elected so what do you think will change?
You would think that by now Canadians can see dangers of Islam. What policies was he elected on? More Muslims?
This terror has been going on for at least 20 years and Canadians have still elected a pro Muslim PM. If they can’t see it by now then they won’t.

This terrible event occurred, as did some 27,000 others worldwide just since 9/11, because of Islam. You have to be delusional, massively and willfully ignorant, or deceptive to assert otherwise by now. Take your pick with Obama. My God, this man is so disgusting.

So it IS true. Anyone bad that happens in America today. You pathetic racists, bigots, black-hating, klansman, extremist scumbags blame the black man in the white house like the racists T-baggers that you are. Obama haters truly ARE the biggest racists today.

I don’t understand how you refuse to attach any responsibility to guns, yet you try to attach all responsibility to Obama. That’s just… idiotic. Wasn’t the shooter born here? Calling it work place violence is incompetent but not impeachable. Your an idiot. real fn idiot., Obama had nothing to do with the attack in Cali. Just like Bush had NOTHING to do with the shooting in Delaware State University in 2007.

1. He does not meet the definition of a domestic terrorist and has not been proven to be a traitor, or even against the Constitution.
2. I do not believe he ‘hates” America after all it has given him a hell’va
3. He has done nothing to prove his is truly “evil”
4. People of the US and not Obama are destroying the American concept. He has done some things that have contributed to the weakening of the concept of what America stands for.

5. He has attended services at a (black) Southern Baptist church.
6. There has been no evidence presented that he believes in or is a member of the Communist Party, but lets not go back to the McCarthy Era.
7. There is nothing that would prove he has committed terrorists acts.
8. There is nothing that indicates that he is gay, if her were that would have come out years ago.
9, The impeachment of a president is a very serious thing and there are specific reasons that one can be impeached, which are addressed in the presidential duty statement . As he has not had charges brought against him by now it is seriously doubtful that charges will be filed as he his presidency is almost over.

Seriously, Stop blaming the Black Man in office for EVERYTHING wrong and grow a brain, but that will be too much for you racists!

Calling the POTUS a POS and a fraud seems to the usual calling call for you right-wing racists and bigots like you!

He has done plenty to deserve a death sentence for treason.
He is actively working towards Islamisation of America. Supporting IS and importing as many into the US as he can is collaborating with the enemy.
You might be grateful to him for that but the rest of us sane people are not.

Wrong, “questionman”, on every level and in every point you make. Interesting, though, that you call yourself “questionman”, yet you ask not a single question, but instead use this forum to launch a tired old diatribe indicative of the complete numbskull that you are.

All of Mr. Obama’s eloquence cannot hide the fact he is deeply driven by ideology and not reality. People say he is decent man, about which I have no doubt, but a decent man who will look the other way and refuse to believe the threat of Islamic fascism sweeping the world.

If powerful countries like America do not act against this new plague, how will weaker countries like India fare?

I hope the next election in 2016 will result in the ascendency of a strongman into the White house who will take on this demon.

By random I think Michael means that there is no battle line drawn, there is no front line.
The random part is we don’t know where they will strike next.
I don’t think he is a clown, it is sometimes hard to put sown EXACTLY what one means.

I wished someone had a gun in SB, less lives would have lost. This President wants more Muslims in and complete Gun control. That sums up his intentions are 100% anti-American. Seriously folks, this guy hates America more than he values other American lives. He is setting up head on full throttle Sharia. Only fools can’t figure that.

I have a problem with one of the statements above “The couple told the grandmother that they had a doctor’s appointment and needed her to take care of the child, Ayloush said, adding that she had been concerned Farook and his wife might be among the victims of the shooting when neither of them answered their phones” –

Is there doctor in the vicinity where the shooting took place? If not, then the bitch knew about the plan.

As a non-American I firmly believe that you people have to do something about your gun laws.
As Robin Williams put it, the constitutional right to carry arms is not the right to carry artillery.
That said, France has strict gun laws and that didn’t stop the Paris attacks.
Obama is a dangerous fantacist and it will be interesting to see how he spins this. He’s pretty much used up the other lines, including workplace violence.

If we have Gun control – Muzzie’s going to win out. They use guns/bombs or anything they can get hold of to do a massive colleteral damage. If someone had a gun, they may have saved lives. Gun contol = Rapid Sharia. Obama knows that and he wants it. He is anti-American.

Rob,
I suggest strongly that you watch this very entertaining and informative video by Bill Whittle.
It may really open your eyes wide on “gun control” and why it’s perhaps not the issue the left has painted it to be.
I rarely say something is a “must watch”, but this one really is!
Bill Whittle – Gun Control, number one with a bullet ( and why it’s a really bad ideal).
If people followed Bills line of thought, like Plano, Texas – you’d see a lot less gun violence in the world.
Oh, and yes, get the Democrats out of power in our major cities and we become Sweden!https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pELwCqz2JfE

According to the UN figures, the US sits at 91st place with a rate almost exactly double that of your neighbours Canada.
My real issue around Gun Control is not whether you can own a gun but what type.
Magazine size max 6 bullets, with each shot requiring a pull of the trigger.
In a mass shooting scenario, let’s give people a chance to dive for cover or for help to arrive.
What possible self-defense or recreational situation requires machine gun rates of fire?

Rob, why did the police need to ramp up it’s arsenal of guns? Not because of the law abiding citizen that has such weapons it is because of the criminals.
CRIMINALS Rob. You can’t make stricter gun laws and expect them to work when the criminal don’t care about any laws. They are CRIMINALS Rob, try and understand that. They don’t care. As soon as Hitler had the power to he took away all the guns from the people and look what that got Germany.
That ban on assault weapons that you seem to love is just a foot in the door.
Rob, get your foot out of my door, it don’t belong there.

You may be interested to know that the US Ambassador to my country approached me in person and thanked me for the public utterances I made in support of the US after Boston.
He clearly thought that my analysis of the situation was accurate.
The planned assault won’t be ameliorated nor will the criminal ones.
BUT you have a got to do something.
By all means win the race to the bottom and encourage open carry. But do so with some restrictions at the mega firepower end.

And have lower crime rates like they do in Texas
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Have the strictest gun legislation like they do in Detroit Michigan, New Orleans, St Louis and Chicago who have the highest murder rate per capita in the whole USA

Switzerland doesn’t have a problem with full auto AND large capacity magazines.
Why is that?????

BTW The race to the bottom was a nice leftist / liberal sneak it up your backside comment.

‘Race to the bottom’ is a widely used phrase meaning ‘how fast can we get to the lowest common denominator.
I wouldn’t be contributing to this forum if i was a leftist.
But seriously. The US is losing credibility. On my network news tonight we had the current SB event front and centre, plus a resume of the almost daily mass shootings in your country.
Couple of minutes later your national level chief attorney was intoning about the US sacred mission to clean up FIFA.

Race to the bottom can also mean as race to the lowest point you can go in humanity. To be called a bottom feeder in the USA is a derogatory term as a garbage feeder, a lowest form of human being.
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“On my network news tonight we had the current SB event front and centre, plus a resume of the almost daily mass shootings in your country.”

And just who is doing these shootings Rob? Christians? Jews? Criminals and terrorists Rob, that’s who.
How come Switzerland don’t have this problem?
Oh I know those evil guns are forcing these poor humans to do their dirty work. I have yet to see a gun jump off the shelf and kill someone.
The REAL crime is when criminals use guns to commit crimes, get caught and only serve a few years if that, sometimes it’s probation. That is the crime, DON’T BLAME THE GUN.
Bats, cars and hospitals kill a hell of a lot more people, we should outlaw those first.
Per capita the USA is not even in the top 100 of countries for murder rates. How is that for a statistic?

According to the rankings I found it is NOT in the top 100.
OK Rob what countries are the top leaders??
The leaders are where they have the strictest gun laws. What does that show you?
Gun laws don’t work. What does work is severe penalties for using guns in a crime. Keep them in jail, don’t let them out to harm and kill again.
Our pussy-assed politicians are blaming the gun, not the criminal. THAT is wrong. What is also wrong is that people don’t think for themselves, they just go on nodding their heads like they are chewing a sandwich with the back of their neck.
You still have not said anything on Switzerland.

Terrorism? That is a self-effulgent religion.
It’s got nothing to do with Islam.
A Hindu’s chanting is nothing to do with Hinduism.
A Buddhist’s meditation is nothing to do with Buddhism.
A Muslim killing Jews or unbelievers is nothing to do with the Holy Qur’an.
He couldn’t help it, he was only seeking fame and glory amongst his peers. So it’s only another one-off, so don’t worry, if it happens again it’s only another one-off.

OK Citycat, to follow your logic, when next attack happens and your loved ones happened to be there, the guy shouts Alla Blala and other bull crap that is associated with it. Would you be singing the same notes that he has nothing to do with Islam? If you were, you are smoking something that is way too strong for you.

Cheers, saves me explaining. Not sure what you mean by a long time. Been here over two years, just in case you think i’m another citycat that was here more years ago, which i didn’t know at the time of landing here. I named myself after an actual cat called citycat. And i didn’t know there was a transport system called citycat. Alright

to Blue Raven – you need to get your sarcasm detector polished up. While it’s not my favorite way to communicate, some people resort to it just before pulling hunks of their hair out with frustration, and that happens a lot here on JW, given what we all address.

Obama on SB: “We do not yet know why this terrible event occurred”
This is getting beyond a joke. The most ridiculous thing is that he knows
that we know he’s talking BS. His monotone speech on the Paris attacks
displayed complete lack of interest and empathy. Surprise surprise.
Again, he will have known that people will have noticed that.
It’s just pure contempt.

He’s no bumbler my friend. Obama got all reference to “islam”,
“islamist”, “jihad” etc., removed from all US intelligence training
and manuals. This is to render the US completely impotent in the
face of the jihadi threat it faces. The Boston bombing could easily
have been prevented had the FBI been allowed to act upon the
numerous warnings it had received from Russia about the jihadist
activities of the Tsarnaev brothers. This is just pure evil and subversion
at the highest level and it’s only the tip of the iceberg.

@Champ ; @Aussie kaffar
Oh yes, and there’s this too, which I should have added before.
The video’s a little old. One or two things didn’t quite go to plan,
but the basic objectives remain the same.
Shocking, but essential viewing :

@Champ,
Thank God he can’t run for another term next year! Let’s hope that
enough people suss out fellow fraud and candidate Hillary Clinton and
that she’s finally brought to justice. She’s every bit as slimy.

We need to stop with the “friendly fire” incidents! There were two or three comments on this thread where someone using (to me), obvious irony/sarcasm, was taken on by others who didn’t “get it”. Please let’s save our fire for the real enemies, not each other!

Merely more taqiyya from our dear leader. He isn’t going to slander islam so he isn’t going to say anything certain about it; he’s going to stay vague and then get right back to scolding and lecturing Americans.
His veneer of intellect has worn tracing paper thin.

The obama leftist endless loop goes something like this, islam has nothing to do with terrorism, it’s not terrorism, even though it’s not terrorism, terrorism is caused by poverty, poverty is caused not by a lack of responsibility but by “climate” “change”, the poor squeaky person gets the grease, but we don’t really like grease because that comes from oil and all oil is evil, even though our solar funding collapsed and caused taxpayers a ton of money. We basically want failed socialism and marxism, and maybe sharia law too, which has never worked. No middle class. And we like our rock star ruling elite status and million dollar frequent “vacations” and golfing. Remember islam is good it’s the “foundation of our country” we all need islam. [end of mocking obama]. Followers of the unholy ko ‘ran. Ham sandwiches be upon them.

The fact that this man hasn’t long since been removed from power speaks to the corruption of the US government. The fact that he hasn’t long since been raked over the coals by the media speaks to the corruption of the main stream media. The fact that the US people haven’t long since spoken out en masse against the corruption in the government and the media speaks to the corruption of the American spirit.

We the people will deserve exactly what we get if we the people do not FIRST reclaim a clear vision of the moral bedrock on which this country was founded and THEN to hold our institutions to account for undermining that bedrock. Of course this means that we the people must go outside of our comfort zone. I wonder if we’ve got the stones for it.

It’s hard to believe that even the greatly dumbed-down US public isn’t seeing through the dog and pony show surrounding this incidence of jihad. Just listening to what Obama vomits forth about searching for a motive makes me want to leave the country. How can any modern nation put up with such a transparent liar?

Try reasoning the motive for the Islamic massacre of the Jews of Hebron in 1929, 19 years before Israel became a state and and long before any imagined or real of any Jewish “occupation” of allegedly “Palestinian” lands.

Or Mohammad’s motive in attacking the Jewish Oasis of Khaybar in the year 629, in unilateral breach of a “non-agression pact”. The only true motive was his wish to plunder and loot the possessions of the Jews, kill all adult and sub-adult males, and kidnap all females and all “unblemished young boys” (those who did not yet have a single pubic hair) and take the lot (females and pre-pubescent boys) as sex slaves.

How different was that attack from the recent massacres by DAESH (IS) of Yazidi and Christian Males and the taking of the females as sex slaves?

The riddle still to be solved is who did HBO pledge his allegiance to, because by his actions he may have pledged allegiance to the Muslim Brotherhood.

When will the Americans have the sense to expose the Kenyan born Somali Muslim with a fake Hawaiian Birth Certificate, for what he really is – a fraud and a traitor who should be impeached, removed from office, charged with treason, convicted, and have the wrath of the law executed upon him?

Yep Yep…in his quiet peaceful pursuit of Islamic teaching, he just randomly decided to go out and purchase a few AR-15 assault weapons, all the ingredients for explosives and pipe bombs, a few bullet proof vests, then tell his mother he was going to a doctor’s appointment. And his mother says he’s always been such a good boy, and all the clueless, brainwashed liberals suggest he must have had some workplace emotional feelings of being offended somehow.

The elephant in the room is islam (evil doesn’t deserve capitalization). Of course, if B. Hussein doesn’t want us to talk about islam, then he certainly doesn’t want us to see the elephant. Hmmm, interesting that an elephant is the symbol for the Democrat Party…..

Rasool Obama is looking old and tired…It must be Protecting the image of Islam is hard work, especially when Islam keeps making you out a liar…
Denial of reality is about all he has left…and with that, and a five dollar biol you can buy a beer in any bar in town…

If we can’t impeach Barry because he is “of mixed race”, can we impeach only the white half and avoid all the black halves matter rioting in the streets? After all, he talks like he has half a brain. Maybe Carson removed the other half.
Seriously, this president is not to be trusted, he has something up his sleeve. No one would talk so blatantly ridiculous unless they had an ace in the hole.

The comedy show of islamist excuses and blaming the NRA and the GOP for the dark ages mentality and barbarism of islam and any one who has been touched by islam begins all over again! Islam is institutionalized mental sickness and it will never stop until we got totally RID of islam and muslims! Do I hate islam.. OF COURSE I DO! What is there about islam that is NOT to despise???? Even now our deluded, demented IDIOT in CHIEF is riding his teleprompter to obfuscate and lie again! Has this jerk no decency at all??? No wonder the world is laughing at us for twice electing this bumbling buffoon and mental cripple. The fact that he still sits in the white house is humiliating enough. Have we no sense at all????

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