I'll try to answer this. Where I come from, we call all of the .22x cartridges as a "22 caliber". This includes the .22 long rifle, .22 short, .22mag (all rim fire), as well as, the .223 and the 22 hornet, which are center fire.

But, we also call magazines clips even if we know the difference.

Okay where do you come from??? I've never heard the .223 and the .22 grouped in the same class (although the long, shot, etc, that is normal)..

I'll try to answer this. Where I come from, we call all of the .22x cartridges as a "22 caliber". This includes the .22 long rifle, .22 short, .22mag (all rim fire), as well as, the .223 and the 22 hornet, which are center fire.

But, we also call magazines clips even if we know the difference.

Okay where do you come from??? I've never heard the .223 and the .22 grouped in the same class (although the long, shot, etc, that is normal)..

Colorado. I wondered if this was local jargon after your question. So, I checked Hornady's web page and they do list the .222, .223, .224 and .227 as "22 caliber".

I don't know for sure, but as I recall, all the hype and reporting for the last few years about assault or assault type weapons, normally don't include the caliber. I have generally assumed .223 center fire.

However, this story from numerous media sources specifically noted .22 styled assault weapon. I am pretty sure this was a rim fire .22 and not a .223 center fire.

A big difference in killing power, but both are deadly.

When it comes to jargon, when someone says that they have or shoot a 22, they never mean a .223 (in my experience).

Ruger does build a semi auto "assualt sytle" auto loader in 22 LR the SR-22. It uses a rotary magazine. I believe 10 rounds. But, I have a rifle that uses the same rotary magazine and a banana clip (er magazine) can replace it. (30 shot). So, even a 22 rim fire can pump out rounds.

"Shootin 22's" usually refers to .22 rim fires. However, "22 caliber" refers to all of the .22x according to my Speer's reloading book. So this could go either way. It would really be nice if the news would just report the gun model.

There are many "assault style" .22lr rimfire weapons. There are even .177 style. Then there is the "old fashion" tube under the barrel .22lr. In both .177 and .22 there are Air Rifles with barrel velocities similar to the standard .22.

Interesting to note that the 2nd amendment killers think that one is more deadly than the other because of the way they look. There is no difference in firing speed, accuracy, or killing power between any .22 rimfire rifle, no matter how they look. One looks cool, the other doesn't

There are so many idiots and thieves in our government. In fact, can anyone on this forum name a government on this planet that doesn't have psychopaths, thieves, perverts, dictators, or mad men running it? I'd say Israel, if I didn't know how much corruption there was in that kineset.

I'll try to answer this. Where I come from, we call all of the .22x cartridges as a "22 caliber". This includes the .22 long rifle, .22 short, .22mag (all rim fire), as well as, the .223 and the 22 hornet, which are center fire.

But, we also call magazines clips even if we know the difference.

Okay where do you come from??? I've never heard the .223 and the .22 grouped in the same class (although the long, shot, etc, that is normal)..

Colorado. I wondered if this was local jargon after your question. So, I checked Hornady's web page and they do list the .222, .223, .224 and .227 as "22 caliber".

Do they then call the .22 short/long/etc 22 Rimfire? I'm dying of curiosity

I do know when I reloaded, the .223 reloads WERE in the 22 Caliber section of the book (I have an AWESOME 80 grain .223 reload that has the same ballistics of a 30 cal at 500 yards ). Just like all the .30 reloads were in the 30 Caliber section.

I'll try to answer this. Where I come from, we call all of the .22x cartridges as a "22 caliber". This includes the .22 long rifle, .22 short, .22mag (all rim fire), as well as, the .223 and the 22 hornet, which are center fire.

But, we also call magazines clips even if we know the difference.

Okay where do you come from??? I've never heard the .223 and the .22 grouped in the same class (although the long, shot, etc, that is normal)..

Colorado. I wondered if this was local jargon after your question. So, I checked Hornady's web page and they do list the .222, .223, .224 and .227 as "22 caliber".

Do they then call the .22 short/long/etc 22 Rimfire? I'm dying of curiosity

I do know when I reloaded, the .223 reloads WERE in the 22 Caliber section of the book (I have an AWESOME 80 grain .223 reload that has the same ballistics of a 30 cal at 500 yards ). Just like all the .30 reloads were in the 30 Caliber section.

Not in the book, so I never tried reloading .22 rimfire

The only reloading I ever did was .41 magnum for a single action Ruger. Great for exploding water filled plastic pop bottles.

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