Flag OTC Minutes

One of our regular, if irregular, features: the often odd, sometimes silly, but always informative and entertaining “minutes” from the Flag OTC.

Super Powered Bubbles Champagne and her crew — supposedly the top tier of the scientology public world — are poster children for the bubble-think that is endemic in scientology. They literally see what they are told to see. Period.

I have highlighted just a few of the most notable points in their latest edition of “pat ourselves on the back” news.

80 public “recently” routed onto Solo NOTs. Wonder how recently? No specifics is always an indicator that it’s not good. But there are 11 “scheduled to arrive” and 57 more “getting ready to arrive. “ They forgot to mention the 204 who are “thinking about getting ready to plan to start making arrangements to arrive”.

i guess it doesn’t occur to them that with these numbers, they are NEVER going to make 10,000.

Rooster really got the crowd going with some great stroking at the outset. “Legendary”?

Everyone was thrilled to hear that the “balance has definitely changed in our favor” — how do we know? With a touch of a finger to cell phone you can now reach scientology from anywhere in the world. This is some mighty earth-shattering news. Clearly, it’s all downhill from here…

Not to be a party-pooper, but you know with the touch of a finger to a cell phone anywhere in the world you can also reach me. So perhaps the balance has definitely shifted in my favor too?

Oh, he is still riding on the threat of atomic war? And the great plan that Hubbard had for it? Really? Everyone should move to S Africa?

It appears Rooster is still living in the glory days back when things were “hard”. The newbies obviously don’t understand the great sacrifices the heros like Michael, Jeff Pomerantz and Andrik Schapers gave to make it possible for the massive international expansion scientology is experiencing today. Just think – without those brave champions (and your support of the IAS), scientology would not have been shrinking at an even faster rate than it is!

And hold the presses — the “launch” of “Season Two” of the Cult Shopping Network is happening. And you know that ALL the footage is shot by Sea Org members and they don’t use stock footage? Isn’t that amazing. I guess that makes Scientology and The Aftermath pretty amazing too…

They’re closing down the entire Flag Landbase for this watershed, epic event. You can bet the ONLY people watching this “launch” will be the people who are suckered into going into an org to watch it.

A distinguished mystery speaker?

That’s all the amazing information there is for this week. I am sure readers will note other items of interest.

Comments

Mike, the OT lives in Fantasy Land. The old days were like a walk in the park compared to the reputation Scientology has now. It now has earned the bonified status as one of the most fraudulent and toxic cults on the planet.
Yes Michael, great strides have been made thanks to your tireless efforts to collect your commissions from all the duped donors to the IAS.

If we look at Hubbard’s master plan, why it’s sell books to the public, and advertise selling books to the public, first they can join via a scientology mission, and from the beginning it was called dianetics group.

So the plan is to get people interested thru book sales, Jefferson Hawkins did that and created a books make booms. LOL as he did it. That’s why I’m LOL at DM.

But, the bottom line is, really is, reading Dianetics makes you think you can go “clear”, why only two people reading that book can go “clear” if you follow the procedures in the book..

In the end, no clears or OT’s, it’s really much ado about nothing. For nobody who has done dianetics has perfect recall, or cured cancer, or has etc etc. Same with Scientology.

I have to wonder…all outer org staff have accessibility to tv (ie. Aftermath) internet (all the blogs) and they must be sick to death of stat pushes…how many secretly watch this somehow somewhere. I know I would have. Their flag stats are just sad compared to 78-82 where hundreds daily were on those levels. I too shudder at the thought if I still had to be doing what these people do daily. I do believe they are well intentioned overall…or at least I would be if I was still there so I’m judging on that. They are still holding up their umbrellas in gale force winds.

That’s curious: LRH had a plan to protect the “church” from the wog world’s threats. And yet, he did NOTHING to protect his own WIFE from going to wog prison–to save his own hide! And these folks seriously believe that Elron would have lifted a finger for them?

Well, the crises have passed: Mutual nuclear annihilation has lost most of its scare, and the cult that Ron built is circling the drain. The world goes on without El Con’s hare-brained schemes…

Since when? We got closer to nuclear war in the past two years with the ego-off between Trump and Kim Jong Un than we were in the whole rest of my adult life. And yeah, moving to South Africa would be no solution.

I once had super powers, too; the power of arrest. I was given a diploma from the police academy, too. Just think, or not, it’s up to you, I could’ve used the same energy in SeaOrg or trying to cross the bridge that’s talked up so often. Today, I’m just an SP living in the NH woods, I’m sad to say.

I’m wondering how the minutes to their oh so secret meetings end up here….is there a mole? It must freak them out something awful when they see stuff like that here….they are all looking at each other and wondering who the leak is……that must add to their ever-growing paranoia……Awesome!!!

Boy! I yawnalot on this stuff. I’ve been to Flag many times until the light globe finally came on and my opinion now is that being in a dentist’s waiting room anticipating a root canal is far more enjoyable. Lot cheaper too and you actually get service & something useful for your money.

Move to the beginning of incident & tell me when you’re there. What is the duration… opps old habits die hard.
Have 3 tokes, a couple of glasses of melot, Write an obscene comment or two about Scientology and see me at the pub on Saturday. There, that’s a better tek hey?

Huge and adoring crowds come out anywhere the Pope shows up (and there’s plenty photo documentation of that). The Dalai Lama draws pretty good numbers and gets world news coverage. But the pope of Scientology doesn’t dare show his face in a truly public setting. He’s ecclesiastically detested.

These photos will again prove…how small, shrinking and unable Scientology has become.

OT but not really. Yesterday I was working with my assistant on gathering information for a “letter terminating representation.”.

At our business, this is not a bad thing, but something we strive for. A client comes to us and asks for help fixing something, we sign an agreement with them as to what we will fix, we fix it for a set fee or hourly fee, based on the problem, then we terminate our relationship with them. It is in the contract that if the client doesn’t provide us the information we need, the cost of fixing it falls on them, if they provide us what we need and we do not fix it correctly, the burden is on us to fix it no charge. When we fulfill our commitment, we thank them for choosing us and let them know our representation is complete. We have fixed things at our cost several times, we have charged clients other times. We explain why we charge them when we do.

If they have another problem, they may come back, if they wish, or they may go elsewhere. If they go elsewhere, we do not badmouth them, but provide the new firm with the information they need.

Contrast that to scientology. If those of you who were in can remember, think of why you started. What was your “ruin” that sucked you in? Was that ruin ever addressed? Did you keep hoping it would be addressed on the next level and hang around because of that? Even those of you who claim “scientology helped me”: Was your ruin ever addressed? I’m not trying to be rude here. I really want to know.

Anyone who makes a promise in “the real world” is held accountable for their promises. Scientology, on the other hand, uses the legal system to destroy those who try to hold them accountable for their promises.

Also I read Dianetics when I was 18. When my friends asked me what I thought I said, “Well it’s interesting but it’s definitely not a religion! It was so obvious to me even then and I had no preconceived notions whatsoever.

These OTC minutes look like evidence that the remaining Scios are the least brightest people the COS has ever had. I’ve observed over the years that the smart ones were the first to bail out. Then there were the fairly smart ones but were slow learners (like me). Eventually all that was left were the mentally dull, emotionally damaged, and twisted moonbat true believers. It’s just a crazy-assed theory, but it’s my crazy-assed theory, and I’m sticking to it.

I, too, get the impression that the still-ins, and the few who have joined up more recently, are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. One indication of this is the atrocious grammar and generall poor English skills seen in the various flyers, broadside letters and posters. Another are the occaional encounters on line at this website and others with the practicising scions who sometimes drop in. They don’t strike me as serious thinkers, to say the least. Exhibit A: Tom Cruise; great actor for the type of movies he makes, but certainly not a deep thinker; more of an idiot savant, actually, when it comes to film acting.

Okay, I can understand someone speaking English as a second language not having great writing skills – but to let the grammar mistakes go out the door on posters and other notices, where the public can see them? I mean, who’s minding the store here? Of course, if the overseers also have atrocious English skills (due to poor education, most likely) they’re not going to notice the mistakes.

Yes, provided they’re due to having donated too much of one’s money, time or effort to the cult , along with bankruptcy, bad credit and insolvency in genera – l lack of education, rejecting being trained in any decent paying field, rejecting college and other higher education, and ignorance in general are all REWARDED by cult.

Operating states which put a young person at high risk for turning criminal, for becoming addicted to drugs both street and pharmaceutical, for becoming dependent upon welfare or unemployment insurance, or, at best, their families, for life: operating states which make an individual highly susceptible to mental depression and physical illness, and last but not least, operating states which are highly conducive to a young person never being able to start his or her own family – these are ALL operating states which Scientology APPLAUDS.

This cult loves nothing more than turning an “upstat” into a TOTAL “downstat” via the relentless extraction of money, effort and time from the upstat.

This cult will drain you dry.

It will drain from you everything that you have and all that you hold dear in its relentless quest for every bit of free money, free effort and free time it can get out of you.

And once you are drained dry – OR Xenu Forbid! you put your foot down and say “NO MORE! – well, you’re worthless to them from that point on, and you are disposed of “quietly and without sorrow”.

Yes, suicide. The young ones are in that “most likely to” demographic.. No wonder they cling to the cult despite being exploited. They need the validation. With few exceptions, no one on the outside is going to be impressed with them. I know a number of these 20 somethings, 30 somethings, pushing 40 somethings and 50 somethings. I’ve checked out their Linkedin profiles and other places where they promote themselves. Not one of them – not ONE of them – mentions being on staff at a Church of Scientology, or having been on staff. And some of them were once or have been on staff for DECADES. Not a whisper about it. It can be assumed they’re not proud of this, More to the point, it can be assumed they know quite well that linking themselves to Scientology will not help them get them a job or sell their little doohickeys online.

Not sure about Ned. I think he was responsible for the bars on the windows at Int and the razor wire contractor guy RB interviewed said it was Ned who insisted on the wire facing inward.
Maybe Ned is being groomed for Karin’s position?

Around the year 2000 I was doing QM duty on the g angway of the Freewinds when I saw that the setup had been turned around so that the QM faced into the ship instead of out. This was clearly done to keep people from escaping. This did not last long. It was too obvious. No ship’s QM faces inward.

I agree, Karma and Stat. Bubbles and that little plug-ugly Cardone know EXACTLY the fraud being perpetrated, the con job they;re are supporting. Innocent? Duped? Forget it! They are Miscavige’s Flying Monkeys.who know exactly what they are doing and just as criminal as he is.

Scientology is composed basically of 2 groups: 1) people who have been betrayed and know it; and 2) people that are being betrayed but don’t know it…. yet. The former is the largest group and growing. The later is a smaller group and shrinking.

Bravo Robert A. What you said makes a lot of sense. And the first group (hopefully) is largely UTR. I personally know 2 UTR Scientology families. They know I’m out. We don’t discuss Scientology at all, via silent agreement.

Aqua, “What makes some leave and some stay?”
For me, it was what LRH called “A held down 7”.
It was the datum that one could not leave the SO alive. So, of one is not ready to die just yet, one has to just keep going. With a billion year contract, anone who fails to show for muster 10 million years into their contract is a deserter and a freeloader. Fortunately for me, a meat body does not last that long, especially with little rest.

I heard it was being coordinated with the release of passenger flights to the moon. I think I also heard they’re putting a Denny’s up there for the economy class plus an Irish Pub. The pub was vetoed by TC though, he doesn’t like dogs!

Right, Aqua.
I used to hum “Deutschhund uber Alles” on the Freewinds but it freaked out former Chief Electrician. Mike Sanders. Herr Sanders was in the German Navy and the tune was banned in Deutschland after the war.

HOW DARE YOU MISREPRESENT THE ALL HOLY STATISTICS OF THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY! THAT STATEMENT SHOULD SAY 57X EXPANSION! IF YOU DON’T CORRECT THAT RIGHT NOW I WILL COME DOWN ON YOU LIKE A FLAMING ASTEROID!
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

Important Quotes

If the org slumps during this transition period, don't engage in "fund raising"
or "selling postcards" or borrowing money. Just make more income with Scientology.
L Ron Hubbard From HCOPL URGENT ORG PROGRAMMING

"We own a tremendous amount of property. We own a tremendous amount of material and so forth, and it keeps growing.
But that’s not important. When buildings get important to us, for God sakes, some of you born revolutionists will you please blow up central headquarters".
L Ron Hubbard Lecture 31 Dec 1960

"Personal integrity is knowing what you know. What you know is what you know and to have the courage to know and say what you have observed".- LRH from Personal Integrity

"It is necessary to happiness of man, that he be mentally faithful to himself. Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists of professing to believe what he does not believe." Thomas Paine

“Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter.” - Martin Luther King

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.” - Martin Luther King

“There comes a time when silence is betrayal.” - Martin Luther King Jr.

“Communication is the universal solvent” - L Ron Hubbard

“When men yield up the privilege of thinking, the last shadow of liberty quits the horizon.” Thomas Paine

"Never be afraid to raise your voice for honesty and truth and compassion against injustice and lying and greed. If people all over the world would do this, it would change the earth." William Faulkner

"The ultimate authority must always rest with the individual's own reason and critical analysis." Dalai Lama