1 - How much better is the Ti2 in pounds? IE is it £500 better than the Ti or 20p??2 - Is all the latency finally sorted out I kept hearing about when integrating it?3 - I notice it has 6 outputs. Can I pan 3 sounds hard left and 3 hard right to give me
6 separate mono voices?

I didn't know there was a latency issue, I played on my friends TI
a bit and there were huge amounts of latency with total integration going through Logic 8
Pro but I thought it was just incorrectly setup as he only had it a few days and he's one
of these RTFM people lol At least it's sorted out now!If you get one mate I
want to be the first to know what you think hahah

All those annoying flashing
blue and white lights on it give me a epileptic seizure too haha But I guess kids now
think it looks cool

I have ordered a one. Selling my JP to part pay and my 101 to pay
the rest. I know I Know I buy and sell stuff faster than I get it. Just the way I am
until I find my perfect synth.

Blue and white LEDs I think your referring to
the Polar. I got the Keyboard version mate. Not as flash but a 5 octave keyboard. SO
better play but doesn't pull the chicks as much. haha, as if a girls ever got wet over a
synth anyhow.

Ill let you know what I think but knowing me Ill have sold it
before you have even replied below

latency still an issue but only slightly.
Workaround include switching to audio out whilst recording and then back to USB. Being
hardcore I only use analogue outs anyhow so not a prob. This may change if I can ever get
my hear around Ableton routing system.

Has to be the best preset player ever.
Has literally thousands of patches. All easy to tweak or just create your own.

Ti is awesome. Why the hell this hasn't been ripped off and all other manufactures
copied ill never know. Literally is the best of both worlds. Other synths in my studio
are missing a dimension now by comparison.

Sounds are all smothered in reverbs
and delays to the point it gets on my wick. Turn all this kak off and the sound is as
good as virtual analogue gets so why the need for the smother??

Build quality
is awesome. Its german, I mean what did you expect?

Its early days but so far
this is the best workhorse I know off hand certainly what I own. We have just got back
from our first date and I cant wait for the second. Overall a very positive experience.

I have a ten-year-old Virus B. Still a wonderful machine. And played through a big bass
rig, it will turn Harry Krishna into a bad boy, innit ?

On the B, IIRC, you
can assign each channel of a multitimbral setup to a pair of outputs, or to a left or
right. So, yes, the outs can be mono or stereo. TI probably the same. R T Friendly M
?

EDIT: actually I did just look at the Friendly Manual. The manual for the
B does say that outs for each multitimbral channel can be to one out or a stereo pair.
The manual for the TI is not specific - or not on any term for 'output' I could think to
search for. Just have to fiddle around and see what's in there !

Quote:1 - How much better is
the Ti2 in pounds? IE is it £500 better than the Ti or 20p??

TI and TI2 are the ame apart from
cosmetic differences and overall weight an and a few extra processing chips,the engines
are identical,wouldn't warrant the extra cash for a mk2 if you already have a MK1

Quote:2 - Is all the
latency finally sorted out I kept hearing about when integrating it?

Never used it to great extent as a VST
type plug in,only use the software editor,so can't say how much improvement has been
made,guess in a software app your always going to have some form of latency

Quote:Sounds are all
smothered in reverbs and delays to the point it gets on my wick

You can turn them off Globally in the
Configuration menu in the system pages,saves manually arsing around in each sound when you
need to record.I find the reverbs too domineering,even with minimal amounts of send Most
of the patches don't need to be washed in fx anyway they sound pretty nice when they're
Dry,the Distortion fx(in OS4)are very good,Most of the time I only really use the Tape
delay,I don't rate the Verbs in the TI whatosever

The TI is my main
workshorse,I use both a 61 Keyboard version and Desktop,the only limitation I find and
hate with them is that although they claim 80 note poly,dependant on the patches used you
can soon suffer from note stealing as the polyphony is processor based rather note
count,(hence why I use two models)so some patches can be huge polyphony huggers dependant
on oscillator types,mainly why I switch the FX off globally as this gives priority to
polyphony allowance based on notes played and less lilely to suffer note stealing as your
not sharing notes with FX processing just for the sake of it

I use mine
mostly in Multi mode creating combi sounds for layering and splits,mostly in a performance
situation never used it as VST type app,as I'm hardware based sequencing only so never had
an issue with latency

Surely it can't be as bad as a Novation lol I thought they held the benchmark for most
amount of wack FX and reverb over presets only difference is turn the FX off on a
Supernova or K-Station and it sounds just as sh*t if not shitter lol

Seriously Martin. I have never heard such drenching, smothering, saturation, (hmmmm,
thinking of more huge words so you cant mis understand how hard I am trying t hammer the
point home) of reverb and delays.

There all at the point where not only have
they gone past a little too much but to the point where they ruin the sound totally.
There are literally 1000's of presets and every one is killed of by this.

As
said though mate, the Virus Ti (IMHO) is one of the best VAs I have heard without the
ridicules FX amounts and is as good as the JP (You all know im a JP lover right?) except
with the Ti you don't get the stupid clicky envelopes.

Mind on the note of the
ridiculous amounts of reverbs interestingly being a Trance head I also have the Vengeance
sound banks for my JP and they suffer from the same reverb drenching (The original JP ROM
sounds do not) so im left wondering if its a German thing??

I have a C and i'd say it is WAAAYYY better than the JP. Which i also own. (8080) I love
them both as if they were my own children though of course. But the Virus sounds WAY
beefier. The EQ is obviously bassier and the top end is quite low so i quite often find i
have to boost the highs a bit to get it to sit in the mix (i make trance/techno amongst
other things)

The reverb isnt great, but on some patches it definately give you
a good idea of what some effects can do to change, or even add some atmosphere to the
sounds.

The supernova II (which i also own) reverb must be the worst i've ever
heard apart from Vanguards (yuk!)

Not meaning to come across snobby but have you ever heard a high end
hard or soft Reverb. A Lexicon for EG?

I can understand how you can think the
Ti reverb is ok if not but to my, (I own the Lexicon reveb suite) the Ti reverbs are
terrible only beaten in terribleness by ReFXs kit as Michael points out above.

As for Delays, I fell the opposite. I bought the Waves Multi Tap delay which is great
to program, IE you can put delays where you want in time or stereo but apart from that it
sounds no different to the bundled Ping Pong on Ableton Live 8.

To bottom line
the reverb thing, if you like it a lot, use it a lot mate! Music is a very personal
thing.

HiI just got my new VIRUS TI 2 on Xmas day 2009It's a great synth! ACCESS will
never leave you behind, due to OS upgrades via downloadJust about emulates most of
the legendary Vintage synths Has some awsome (stock) patches, has some really deep
pads & synth leads you may tweak or design your own from scratchGet one, you'll
be happy and wished you'd got one sooner!

Totally agree with personal taste. Everything is. Ti didn't work out for
me, but then again no hardware did and Ive owned a lot of stuff over the years including
an andromeda, nord 3 etc etc.

I dodnt want to get into a hardware v software
debate but software does it all far simpler for me. I can concentrate on my music and
production as opposed getting distracted by the interface and worse gear lust. I have zero
gear lust now and its al about the music

I honestly cannot see the point
however for me and whoever to argue about what kit is good for me and what is good for
them. Its like the Apple v PC debate - yawwwnnnnn. Its what works for the individual.

All as any PC, or bit of software or hardware is is a tool to make music with.
You dont hear plumbers arguing over the best hammer or spanner set.

Im not
saying the Ti is poor. But its not for me. Id bet if it were for someone they would get
great results with it and nothing else. If you love yours, go make great music with it and
let me have a listen.

You may not hear plumbers arguing about spanners, but you certainly hear joiners arguing
about hammers. The consensus seems to be that Estwing are best, but some say that they
are overpriced and something cheaper does an equivalent job.

Nope, not OT at all. Your either having a joke which is fine or if not your point is
actually very useful for reinforcing my point.

If a plumber can get by with a
cheaper tool then why not as he gets the same end results or better. This s my point. Its
the end result that matter, nothing else.

Rewind to my analogy. I have an
Andromeda, Virus Ti, Nord Lead 3, JP-8000, Juno 60, Juno 106, SH-101, Akai S1000 and Akai
S1100 and I couldn't write a damn thing. Not a thing. I spent all my time wondering how
the hell to do this or that or each drastically different instrument. Of course turing on
or off was a bloody night mare. 20 on off buttons and boot up sequences to go through.
Then again, I know fellow trance musicians who have had excellent results with far less.

The above suite of VST synths are worth a fraction of the hardware and my productivity
is up 5000%. In other words I have found an approach that works for me. And it is the
far cheaper approach. Of course, my cheap approach isnt down to cash, its down to what
works.

Kola - totally agree with you - I use a Ti, but also use NI, Arturia and other stuff. I'd
bet each rig each of us use is unique in one way or another. I've Jut got a Novation sl
61ii - which doesn't 'feel' like a Ti - but its v useful in other ways....controller
wise...

Id
rather be very productive with and old Korg M1 than be useless with the £5000s worth of
kit I had and useless I was.

Keep knocking out the music fella.

I think the worst thing you can do is look at someone else's rig even if you adore their
music and think, I know Il buy all of that. I spent two years doing that and getting no
where.

This is
where many people go wrong,technology is there to aid you,a tool,not a replacement for
your ability,or lack of...if your [ ****** ] at woodwork,simply buying a set of nice
Expensive Carving tools isn't going to create you a masterpiece dining table,you need to
focus on the job in hand and work on your skills first which most of the time maybe simply
going back to the basics rather than trying to run before you can walk,simplifying your
working methods is a motivator for sure

I have a plethora of gear,(infact
probably far more than I ever need you think your booting up and powering up sequence was
blase!!!! )yet when it comes to actually writing songs I simply use one instrument,and
normally a piano patch at that or an acoustic Guitar,this is what I write with and only
write like this,so when it comes to programming I already have a song structure and so
then work on each track and gradually introducing all the synths,I did it the other way
trying to work from scratch playing a patch here or programming there, or trying to build
a full track from a 4 bar groove or hook,sometimes it worked(very little progress
though)and it soon became frustrating,and apparent that it was more my working methods
than ability.

Much of it is getting into focus to become motivated,having the
gear in a state of readiness by setting yourself up with working templates etc is worth
its weight in Gold,my studio is hardware only,having a stable environment also makes
things less tedious,I've been down the software route but never found a setup that gave me
the results without all the [ ****** ] that goes with keeping it stable,simply using this
or that,surrounding yourself with too many options or synths without any real direction of
what you want to achieve or song structure is counterproductive also,however for some
people it may work,Certainly for me composing chords and melodies away from the studio
under no real pressure really did wonders for my enthusiasm to compose as it was great
hearing how the songs would change or mould the direction once I worked on them in the
studio,I always find that if the song was moving and good in a raw form,it would only
heighten the song in studio once It was in full flow,it also threw the boredom or lack of
motivation out of the window as I always had a batch of demos to work with rather going in
with a blank canvas,I suppose that there are people who can blag it from a simply 4 bar
idea,yet being more at home with songwriting rather than programming from scratch I didn't
like this way of doing things.
Beating yourself up over wasting money on expensive
toys is never going to do wonders for your motivation neither,but its good you've found an
environment that works better for you within software,No doubt I suspect you'll find that
hardware did work for you it was simply the way you intergrated with it,something I never
found with Computers and that only proved I was far better and productive with
hardware

Simply trying to acheive something by purchasing a whole studio of
stuff like some other persons setup in the hope it will gain you success is more than
likely a recipe for disaster or failure,and also seeing how much cash outlay Vs little
musical output your getting,not something I have ever thought about at the end of the day
I look at it that there are far more wastes of money that I would feel disgusted about
spending on Like Alcohol or Tobacco,but I don't drink or smoke so I know which one I would
rather be spending my hard earned cash on,I'm sure over the course of a decade I could
have bought these instruments ten fold for what some of my friends have spent on such
drugs with nothing more than Health problems and hangovers to show for it

its
not the gear you use but the way in which you work with it and how motivated you are,I
always find working with limitations and time scales to acheive something is a true kick
up the arse to motivate my songwriting desire,Only then moving to the whole setup to truly
bring out the best of those songs I've composed.