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I do not want to participate but a specific someone is playing us like a fiddle for 15 pages now. Drags people into the nonsense abyss and single handedly destroyed the P6K thread for everyone that is trying to learn anything at all about this camera. Also, is the individual attacking most people on the smaller amount of time I have ever seen here.
Stop feeding him and please try to not completely loose control of the thread, any thread.

..and suddenly the P6K thread is dead silent!
Do you remember what was going on when the P4K was announced?
The P6K is an excellent and very reasonably priced option for 6K and EF aficionados, but the price and features of P4K spoiled us all for ever!

Regardless of the output bit depth, they are all derived from linear 12bit readout, there’s no discernible DR difference between 10bit and 8bit on the same camera with the same picture profile, the benefit is flexibility in grading (4 times more bits per stop).

Soon I'll put the link to the vote on the front page of the blog to drum up some more people to take part and vote.
Then let's close the poll around Saturday-ish and do the big reveal of gear. Get some photos of the gear and post it. I'll do the same and reveal what I shot. I made two videos with two different cameras.
Then the winner of the public vote gets the last place person's camera If he wants to give it him. We're not going to force it out of his hands This is supposed to be a bit of fun really.
Then I'll choose a winner of the judge's prize, who will get one of my cameras.

GREAT question~!
but: hmmm...
im sorry
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may i...digress for ~one~ hot second...? i wanna just make this clear one time, and my pals who read my posts will get it ok? i feel... weird abt this. i hate it. let me tell you:
U CANT SEE MY FACE BC I USED TO MODEL, OK? i was in a short or two. I POSTED ONE PIC WHICH I REGRET. ITS **NOT PERSONAL GUIZEEE*** I LOVE UUUuuu
::WHEW::! dam, i legit feel sm better now. UGHH!!! THAnkk YOUuu for letting me say that~! jeez! i feel like a great weight has been lifted ok
/SO: back to phone wallpapers
@heart0less -- i sometimes go MONTHS, up to, say, 3+ months WITHOUT CHANGING MY PHONE WALLPAPER. SAME W MY DESKTOP WALLPAPER. OMG, RITE?!???
BUT, this thread has totally inspired me to get SUPER gay on my new NOTE 10 😎
P.S. @Zach Goodwin2 -- do u like this?

Reality will never overcome some representation of it. That's why it is called art. 24fps posed a standard, dictated as its intrinsic motion cadence. Other than that is not adding anything but just diminishing all that. Who doesn't understand this has no clue what's going on.
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Made to eliminate gamut clipping issues in the first place, but also eliminates the brown cast of BMD Film V4 for the BMPCC 4K and 6K (soon), provides a nicer roll-off for skin, red lights, tungsten, blue lights etc, fixes incorrect color and targets IPP2 Soft Rec709 conversion. A BMD FILM V4 to RedWideGamutRGB/RedLog3G10 conversion to work with inside a native IPP2 workflow is included as well.
Pocket 6K version coming soon:
More information:
http://55media.net/55m-p4k-color/

So, I made an "Anamorphic Shop Rangefinder". I had been sitting on this Bell & Howell 2X for months. It has a cracked anamorphic element and I planned to harvest the focusing elements and make one. I recently got an Aivascope and it lit the fire under my ass to give it a shot. And speaking of fire, I literally had to light the Bell & Howell on fire to get it open. First I wet the seams with paint remover, let it soak, then went at it with a stove lighter. (DO NOT TRY THIS UNLESS YOU HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO DO IT AND YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING) Took some real strength and grippy gloves to get it, but the snap it made when the threads came loose was sooo satisfying.
I made the 3D inserts in Tinkercad and had them printed locally. Took some sanding (I was really careful, as I wanted the glass to have a tight fit) but it wasn't too bad. Once I got the glass elements in and aligned and when I got infinity it was SOO DAMN SATISFYING.
I am shooting with it on and off. I will be posting more tests soon. First impressions? It's damn good. Crushes the Focuser 8 and even the SLR Magic Rangefinder in quality. I was very pleasantly surprised.
I designed my inserts so the glass will never fall out. If it somehow gets loose the elements will fall "in". The spacers are glued to the helicoid. It was some work, but here's the cost:
Broken Bell & Howell 2X on ebay: $60 shipped
Pixco M58 17-31mm Helicoid: $20
3D Printing: $9
Getting an "Anamorphic Shop Premium Rangefinder" at better quality and a 5th of the cost and without dealing with Anamorphic Shop? Priceless.
More tests to come. Got an Aivacope shoot this week and parts for my Baby Kowa too. FUN FUN FUN.
Also, for reference, I am calling this the B&H Focuser from here on out.

gopros have a small lens however that picture gets wide very quickly which makes it pretty easy to get a finger stuck in the picture somewhere. Dont ask how i know this .The lens would be less than an inch or 25 mm wide so it may fit between your grate. whether the lens protudes down through the grate enough not to block your fov is the question. the gopro fov is about 170 degrees however you can also change that fov from superview to wide and linear modes which are kind of like a crop. the other thing i could suggest is rage cam and one other company can mod your gopro with alternative lenses which would give you a narrower fov as well which may help in your situation.

How often do you change your wallpapers?
I set mine about 2 years ago and it's still with me, hahaha.
In this time I managed to get a new phone, buy and sell five cameras, countless lenses.
But the wallpaper stays right here, untouched.

I must say that this was fun and has renewed my enthusiasm for the 3-hour 1-minute challenge.
One aspect of this that I really like was that there is a budget limit, so instead of not entering because of worrying you'll get judged because you don't own the nicest cameras/lenses it kind of gives everyone an excuse to not create the best video anyone has ever seen. I like the idea of a film challenge where there is a restriction on equipment to get people over the perfectionist tendencies to not release because it's not good enough.
Edit: Maybe a "shoot with the worst camera you own" competition might work?
For under $200?? That'll be the day!
It probably costs more than $200 in cables just to get a functioning rig!!

I still don't understand what you are trying to convey here.
The industry accepts that images shot at 24p have 'stutter' for lack of a better word. There are ways to minimise it in the way you shoot, but 24fps can only provide smooth motion up to a certain point.
https://cinematography.com/index.php?/topic/65391-a-question-about-motion-cadence/&do=findComment&comment=418530
Maybe read that thread and argue your case there.
I don't know but I think this conversation is probably boring the hell out of people wanting to know about the P6K.

I haven't paid super close attention to this yet, but I would imagine that the P4K and the P6K would have very similar or identical "motion cadence" as they are using the same image pipeline (other than the sensor). Perhaps the slightly larger sensor will have a small impact. I am setting up a time now with a couple of my guys to go play with the P4K vs. P6K. I will ask their thoughts on the matter.
Here is something on motion blur for Skip77 start at 3:23 if it doesn't start on its own

Film motion is not like 'silk' at all. There IS a stutter to it.
Most modern TV's have features now that attempt to smooth the motion out and the results are a little like watching 1080i or 50p at realtime speed, it looks 'videoish'
I have a little mission in life whereby whenever I visit someones house, I try to secretly turn off image smoothing when they are up making me a coffee as most TV's seem to have it on by default.
They don't notice anything and it is back to how the film maker intended 🤫

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I'd love this.
Agree wholeheartedly with what all previous speakers wrote.
It's been a nice experience!
Even though my short was more like an entry to "The 3-hour 1-minute Film Challenge" that @kye once set up, I'm quite satisfied with what I've learned and realized.
Speaking of which, I always wanted to enter it, kye! It just hit me in the really busy period and I couldn't get myself together to shoot it.

so after the reveal whats next ? what are the odds of making it a monthly or bimonthly challenge. to give the users of the forum something to aim for, or aspire too perhaps ?
cause we all do a lot of talking, something to keep us learning the craft would be really constructive as well.😉

Yes, but there are quite a few of those niches, and a whole planet crazy about image and video right now. Youtube/fb/insta are running the planet (and I am not on any of those!).
Also, camera phones IS a camera market, it is a phone that has dedicated sensors, lenses, photo and video pipeline, special imaging software, e.t.c like a dedicated camera does.
Imagine Canon powered Xiaomi phones with 20-40% rights for Canon, offering AF, color science, their logo, maybe even a new fab for sensors - strengthen and modernize their own ancient fab labs. Back in profit instantly!
Samsung left cameras because Samsung do not do niche anymore. They left most of their niche companies (military also, I think) but they still innovate and produce and gain in sensors, memory, ssd, phones, where they can mass produce.
Other companies find their niche and thrive (BM, Fuji, e.t.c).

Thats the first video Ive ever seen from the P6K and I must say... it looked extremely videoish. Surely there are some really cinematic footage out there that would better illustrate the point you where trying to make.

This blue sky subtopic is a mystery still to be cleared up as it seems. The fact people has found it along cDNG proves is not exactly related to braw. I wonder if that's not something coming from some user settings anyway? Something that under other circumstances may bring some distinct outcome and overcome the issue? It would be rather interesting to discover it : -)

Is this situation pleasant and positive to any BMD customer? We became used to see this going along the major players, not a company like Blackmagic... Much disappointing to see, Mr. Petty! I'd say there's a high chance he's reading these lines since he is aware of this thread, so I hope this can touch his sensibility. We buy BMD for some different reason... No regrets so far. I hope you keep going your commitment with your loyal clientele all the time anyway!
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Yes, this camera is a low light beast indeed : ) To admit it where shines, to not be silent when it is time to open the mouth. This is nothing but truth : -) At times, there are several of them to compete amongst each other. Sometimes, it is a way more simple than that... : -D

Neither you and me. We've been a very supportive basis Blackmagic has had in the forums we participate for years! As much as Andrew, BTW. It is a shame the brand doesn't recognize the voice of their loyal backers outside their own bubble as due. Only when someone makes it louder... perhaps.

I don't feel this with their cameras today. On the contrary, to be sincere. Aside these issues now reported.
But, some arrogance from their side is unbearable. This should not be tolerant by us as their supportive and cooperative clientele. Dictatorships simply don't bring any help.
Thanks for joining your voice : ) I am glad to see I am not the only one to notice and say it openly. I don't get the fanboy ostrich attitude.
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Nothing wrong with the EF mount. How many cine cameras use the EF mount?
The footage from the P6K already has better cadence and a more filmic look then the P4K. There has to be more data being captured at a better scan rate then the P4K.
And what you and everyone else has been saying is who needs, who can work with and 6K is not better then the P4K with a speed-booster. This footage shows the P6K is more cinematic then the P4K.