You linked a vague list without any supporting documentation or research. A list of deaths that aren't even suspicious from a random website. How much research have you actually done into those deaths? Have you read the public autopsy reports? Spoken to investigating officers or read their reports? Please be specific, what exactly does that list prove and how? Link those deaths with the discussion and be very, very specific in each case.

You may be entitled to your irrational beliefs but no one else has to respect them.

It was just a list. I remember reading many reports last year and the year prior of all these scientists dying mysteriously and most were working for the United States government and military. So of course I didn't speak to the investigating officers.

Just showing a link of mysterious deaths of scientists to the potential coverup of vaccine dangers. Might not be the best example, but at least provides some food for thought.

THEY AREN'T MYSTERIOUS!

There are how many "scientists" in the US? Half a million? Five million? Someone can probably Google it, but the odds of a few of them dying of weird circumstances each year would be fairly high with that many, right?

Linthat22 wrote on Feb 13, 2015, 12:26:2. As far as the coverup, you could look at the list of the dead scientists that have died under unusual circumstances.

From that site:

47-year old NASA Scientist Alberto Behar helped to prove that there had once been water on Mars according to the sad Daily Mail story published to announce his recent death in a plane crash that happened on Friday in LA, California. While plane crashes do happen and scientists do die, Behar's name has now been added to a very long list of scientists and astronomers who have met their untimely ends prematurely, leading us to ask, did Behar know something that 'they' don't want the rest of society to find out?

Awesome. Most of the other entries are less batshit insane, but that's the very first one.

Oh my god, it isn't even linking them to anything, it's just a list of doctors that died of things other than old age.

Batshit indeed.

Yes pick one item to write everything off. Brilliant!

How about this one?

Glenn Thomas, AIDS and Ebola expert and spokesperson for the World Health Organization.Ebola expert Glenn Thomas was among the 298 people who were killed when Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 was shot down and crashed in Ukraine. It is understood he was one of more than 100 researchers who were aboard the flight on their way to an international Aids conference in Australia. Among the other delegates aboard the plane was Joep Lange, a leading AIDS researcher and former president of the International AIDS Society (IAS)

What was he killed for, and was the entire plane shot down for him?

Or this guy's sad tale:

Mark Ferri, 59, Nuclear engineerA renowned American engineer was found dead in his hotel room in Salford after his heart suddenly stopped working. Mark Ferri, 59, from Tennessee, had completed two degrees in engineering as well as an MBA before becoming a nuclear engineer.

At an inquest into Mr Ferri’s death at Bolton Crown Court, it was heard that the dad-of-one was visiting Manchester on business on September 18 – the day of his death.

It was said Mr Ferri had been under stress from his job. His wife, Michaela, told the inquest: “He said a number of times, this job is killing me.” Mr Ferri was originally due to return to the US a week earlier to see his family but was asked to remain in the UK for an extra week.

On September 5, Mrs Ferri spoke to her husband and said that ‘he didn’t sound right’. She said: “He said it was just his work and they were giving him additional assignments and he was feeling overwhelmed and he didn’t think he would be able to complete them”.

What's mysterious, and what does someone think he was killed for?

Or this one:

Professor Carol Ambruster, 69, University professor and Astronomy and AstrophysicsOfficers had found nothing in Ambruster's life or history that appeared suspicious. Philly.com reported; Carol W. Ambruster, 69 was found by her roommate in the kitchen of her apartment in the 5500 block of Wayne Avenue, Germantown with a knife in her neck about 9 p.m., police said. She also had been stabbed in the chest.

Ambruster, a tenured professor in the department of astronomy and astrophysics at Villanova, retired in 2011. Ambruster attended Northeastern University, where she majored in physics, and received her doctorate in astronomy from the University of Pennsylvania in 1984. Her research interests included stars and the history of astronomy.

Seriously? Nothing about these is extraordinary, except the plane shot down, but there isn't even a hint of some grand conspiracy.

This isn't John Wick. The world isn't full of assassin's running around killing thousands of people a day. I'm concerned about your ability to distinguish between fact and fiction.

Linthat22 wrote on Feb 13, 2015, 12:26:2. As far as the coverup, you could look at the list of the dead scientists that have died under unusual circumstances.

From that site:

47-year old NASA Scientist Alberto Behar helped to prove that there had once been water on Mars according to the sad Daily Mail story published to announce his recent death in a plane crash that happened on Friday in LA, California. While plane crashes do happen and scientists do die, Behar's name has now been added to a very long list of scientists and astronomers who have met their untimely ends prematurely, leading us to ask, did Behar know something that 'they' don't want the rest of society to find out?

Awesome. Most of the other entries are less batshit insane, but that's the very first one.

Oh my god, it isn't even linking them to anything, it's just a list of doctors that died of things other than old age.

Prez wrote on Feb 13, 2015, 11:47:So you actually believe thousands upon thousands of scientists and doctors have all colluded to mislead the public on the link between autism and vaccines? Let's pretend for a minute that this was even possible - what would motivate so many people to lie? If they don't care that their lie is causing kids to have autism why would they care if the lack of herd immunity is causing kids to die from measles and other diseases? There isn't enough money in vaccinations for them to go through all this trouble. The problem with the vast majority of conspiracy theories is 1) they never explain the end game of those involved in a way that makes any sense whatsoever, and 2) they ignore the sheer impossibility of keeping such a thing covered up. They would literally have to coerce every single doctor and scientist who performs their own independent study to keep quiet or discredit them as a hack. It just isn't possible.

1. I honestly don't know what the end game is other than greed. If we take a step back from the vaccine and autism debate, look at the other vaccines that have caused harm. You have the most recent one of the HPV vaccine which has crippled teenagers! And lets not forget Bill and Melinda Gates getting in trouble for crimes against humanity. To which Bill Gates has said that vaccines are a great tool for population control.

I see people discuss the revenues of vaccines all the time, but fail to understand how businesses work. Revenue is great, but few companies actually survive on revenue alone. And, at some point, revenue is hard to grow. Shareholders and Wall Street look for margin.

Who is getting rich off of vaccines, and rich enough to buy off every doctor?

Beamer wrote on Feb 13, 2015, 10:22:No, they went after the sex with five guys, not the journalism part.

Kotaku disagrees. Then again since you still are quite disingenuous about Gamergate it doesn't surprise me you're still spewing the same stupid argument that has been debunked time and again.

Really? I feel you're oblivious about Gamergate. Like many, you ignore that horrible treatment and focus on things that are meaningless (indie games, where no one has any power) and ignore the important things (AAA devs and publishers, the only people involved in any of this with any power) and somehow focus your efforts on whining about SJWs, which has nothing to do with journalism or ethics.

If you want to chase "SJWs" out of games, that isn't journalism and it isn't ethics. It's solely being an ass that refuses to accept that it's time for the occasional game to have the occasional character that's occasionally not a straight white man. Half Life 2 did this wonderfully. Why is everyone so against more games being like Half Life 2? Because someone may fuck it up? So what? Most games have fucked up plots and characters now and you don't care too much. And why would we ever stop doing something good because there's a chance the occasional person would do it poorly? What kind of irrational fear is that?

InBlack wrote on Feb 13, 2015, 09:35:You do realize that there is ZERO evidence that links Autism and other mental disorders to Vaccines. The MD and researcher who originally put forth the thesis, FAKED his research. I thought your child had some adverse effects, not someone who bought into the whole AUTIMS conspiracy bullshit....Christ....One guy fakes his research, and spawns a LEGION of vaccine deniers. ONE guy. A whole ARMY of scientists proves him wrong, he gets his MD license taken away and ends up in jail, yet no one takes notice.

You sir, and your ilk are definitely antiscience. Shameful.

This is what is so confusing. It's like walking around today telling people Brian William's heicopter was attacked.

Beamer wrote on Feb 12, 2015, 23:22:Leigh is laughing at you. And her "hissy fit" was over shit head gamers obsessing over a woman's sex life with five guys.

Fuck anyone who said "burgers and fries." Games are better without assholes like that.

Actually, she hasn't realized that she's sleeping in the bed she created. Much like Kotaku and Polygon didn't until they both got dragged in and smeared by their own narrative. Then again, that's the "privileged" person who goes on globe-trotting trips to insult and be racist in other peoples countries.

Oh it wasn't the sex life people cared about, you should know that by now Beamer. It's the favors, collusion, and pro-quid-pro coverage. You know, like just what happened with IGN and Ubisoft(you can thank gamergate for bringing that one to light too). See, what you continue to fail to grasp is that instance was the trigger that had been boiling for nearly 20 years and people simply had enough. I can dig up dozens of articles from 2000-2010 calling out the same shit.

And don't worry if the joke flies over your head, but I'm sure if the sexes were reversed you'd be laughing.

Do you not understand Leigh isn't complaining about the way"gamers" were shown on svu?

And if burgers and fries was about ethics, why was it burgers and fries when only one guy was a journalist and he barely mentioned her insignificant free game?

Beamer wrote on Feb 12, 2015, 17:23:I can find plenty of similar critiques about movies, tv, and music. And they don't receive this kind of tantrum in response. And the people throwing those tantrums get demonized, not every "hardcore gamer."

Red wrote on Feb 12, 2015, 16:59:one my homework. But my conclusions are not the same in every case. Plus, I am probably personally biased towards a more primal version of evolution. The weakest in the herd are holding it back.

The best part is how rarely the people that say things like this realize that, to many, they're part of the weakness of the herd...

Beamer wrote on Feb 12, 2015, 11:27:I've read this four times and I'm still not certain it's English.

It's english. Something you might have missed though was the "law and order" episode where they placed blame on redchanit and the darknet. And of course one can't forget the wailing and whining by sites like polygon, kotaku, and various flappy headed sjw's about how it completely misrepresents gaming and gamers in general. Though they were the ones who created that narrative. They've suddenly come to the realization that the media outside of their cliques really isn't on their side, and are going apeshit trying to run damage control.

Kotaku laments that it demonizes hardcore gamers. Kotaku does not demonize hardcore gamers. It demonizes hardcore gamers that respond to a normal critique that every other form of media receives by sending death threats, bomb threats, kickstarting documentaries that "prove" the critic is a "professional victim," lying about what the critic says, and throwing a tantrum.

I can find plenty of similar critiques about movies, tv, and music. And they don't receive this kind of tantrum in response. And the people throwing those tantrums get demonized, not every "hardcore gamer."

Quboid wrote on Feb 12, 2015, 12:06:From everything I have heard the episode was a load of rubbish, surprise surprise, but was it critical of gamers or of GamerGate? Those tweets seem to think the former but it looks like the later to me.

Edit: I didn't notice that those are all from one person. His whole feed is some sort of mental breakdown but he seems to believe that this show is what anti-GGers actually believe. Presumably he also thinks they believe NCIS.

When you interact with people that care about GG, you learn that they really do think that's what people believe.

Even here, in the etc, etc thread last week, it was full of people repeating arguments no one has ever made (and usually attributing them to Anita Sarkeesian.)

Mashiki Amiketo wrote on Feb 12, 2015, 11:10:Well guys, I already got me redchan.it(8ch redirect) address. Want your own? Possibly nsfw: Hit it up here. It's damn funny how the sjw's, and other sites are now panicking over the law & order episode. I think they may, may, have just realized that the media isn't going to jump on the bandwagon with them and is going to hurt their sweet victimbux.

Cutter wrote on Feb 10, 2015, 23:01:You guys really need to shut up and learn some law because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about and what constitutes a contract and what constitutes fraud. Stick to what you know, which isn't this.

This is the first time I've ever seen Cutter say something isn't fraud. He's so loose with the term I think he claims people that exaggerate the size of the fish they almost caught should be sued for fraud.