The notion that Luck was working with less is easily debunked by looking at the facts.

Luck had healthy receivers all year, he had a pro bowl veteran to throw to all season. He had a dynamic rookie WR that broke big gains off of short completions. Despite having the best WR group of the three candidates, he still made the most mistakes. You can't credit a guy for having a bunch of comebacks when he was the reason they were in a hole going into the fourth quarter in the first place. Poor decision making can't be explained away because he has a poor running game, better passers don't throw their first pass of a game directly to a LB for a pick 6. Better passers don't throw into double coverage when other WRs are open.

Wilson outplayed Luck by throwing more touchdowns on fewer attempts, having a better passing rating, all the while working with less talented receiving options.

RG3 outplayed Luck with his #1 WR and #1 TE both missing half the season, mediocre receivers that dropped more passes than Seattle and Indy's receivers. Meanwhile, the defenses fear of the read option allowed a sixth round pick to break the season rushing total in team history, and allowed mediocre talent to get open when they would otherwise remain covered.

To suggest that Luck did more with less, is to ignore stats, ignore what unfolded in the games, ignore the talent he had at WR, and choose the one player who you're least likely to see for the next decade.

RG3 > Wilson > Luck.

Opinions do not equal Facts.

Wonder why you did not throw out the RBs to support your opinions. Why did you not mention that all of the RBs in a colts uniform combined did not put up the numbers of one Lynch or one Morris.

Morris and Lynch were the number 2 and 3 rushing RBs in the nfl only below Adrian Peterson.

Morris with 1600+
Lynch with 1500+

Now you add all of the RBs totals (that is 4 RBs and one FB) and you still are only at 1378 rushing yards.

It is amazing what a young QB can do how and how much it helps the passing game when they have a reliable running back to hand the ball off to.

One other thing...Morris made a name for himself at RB with a stellar showing. Lynch already had a name for himself due to his career.

Unless someone watches the colts a great deal or goes and looks it up...most will not even know the name of the leading RB for the colts.

Wonder why you did not throw out the RBs to support your opinions. Why did you not mention that all of the RBs in a colts uniform combined did not put up the numbers of one Lynch or one Morris.
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I did mention his team's lack of a running game, it doesn't explain away his inconsistent decision making from the pocket. The best you can say about that is he possibly may not had as a low a completion percentage and as many interceptions if he didn't have to throw as often. But we don't know that, because it didn't happen, and you can't base rookie of the year off a woulda, coulda, shoulda argument.

I'm not saying Luck isn't a good quarterback. He is good, and IMO, he's going to be an all-pro one day. But I can't take my opinion of what he will be in the future and award him rookie of the year when two other players outperformed him.

2. Luck had no running game. He was asked to throw the ball downfield without play action. He had to run a full blown nfl playbook. He had no defense so he had to pass the ball a lot. No competition for roty imo.

3. I trust bill polian on claibornes performance more than mel kiper...

There are many people on this forum that were following ( and becoming fans of) RG3 long before most Redskin fans had ever even heard his name.

I certainly believe that was so, especially since he's a Texas boy. I didn't hear about him until 2010, and wasn't impressed enough to want my team to draft him until late in 2011.

I am not saying everyone here is biased against him, not at all. I've seen quite a few with an open opinion of his rookie year and have shouted down the know-nothings that don't even understand how his offense works. In fact, I've found more knowledgeable and honest members here than at the Giants and Eagles boards I frequent. Which is why I post here so often.

This is the problem stats, they dont tell the whole story. I dont think he will win it, but Luck deserves to be the MVP. Take RBIII or Wilson off their teams and they could still win 8 games with those running games and defenses, the Colts would be lucky to win 4 games without Luck.

I think there are a number of reasons RW is more deserving than RG3 or Luck. I don't think anyone can dispute that if you include playoffs RW had the best season without much debate. People love to talk about how much help Russell had in Seattle, but IMO he had the least talented overall receiving core. Sidney Rice hasn't been impressive since moving to Seattle and Golden Tate doesn't scare anyone. The guy improved every single game and SHREDDED the niners at the end of the season, which was the most impressive win by a rookie IMO. In Atlanta he carried the team on his back to a near upset without much help at all from the running game.

Luck won a lot of games, which is nice, but look at the teams he beat. Other than winning against GB and the Texans at home (and the texans were not playing good ball at that point) none of his victories are very impressive. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/14874/andrew-luck
He threw for a lot of yards but he also threw the ball 627 times yet threw fewer TDs and more Ints than Wilson. You are not going to convince me that Russell couldn't have put up similar numbers if he was allowed to chuck it around like that. (RW threw the ball 393 times). Like I said earlier Luck has the most potential of all these guys but you don't award people based off potential. Not to mention who really got pumped up to play the colts this season? They got to play the underdog role all year with low expectations for the team.

Interestingly, RG3 and RW both threw the ball 393 times in the regular season. Both had running games with similar levels of success. RW had 6 more Tds and one more Int. RG3 threw for 200 more yards. Russell Wilson won 1 more game than RG3 in the regular season. In my opinion the redskins offense seemed less open than seattle's, especially as the season progressed and RW was let of his leash in Seattle. It seemed many of RG3's successful throws were quick passes with a lot of YAC. I think by the time the playoffs rolled around RW grew a lot more that RG3. Just watch the Seatle-Was playoff game, RG3 was staring down his primary target practically every time he threw.

This is the problem stats, they dont tell the whole story. I dont think he will win it, but Luck deserves to be the MVP. Take RBIII or Wilson off their teams and they could still win 8 games with those running games and defenses, the Colts would be lucky to win 4 games without Luck.

If you want to leave stats out of it, let's look at what RGIII did for the Redskins, and the whole DC area (minus the few Cowboys fans). I think everyone, Skins and Cowboys fans alike, will agree that the Skins had fallen to Cleveland like proportions of epic failure. The Skins haven't had a qb since, well, a long time. When was the last time the Colts franchise was in the playoffs? Seattle? How many times for each.

I also wonder, don't know, who in the Colts played the bigger role in the team's inspiration for Pagano's health, I tend to give that credit to Arians, because Luck doesn't inspire me whenever I hear him, and my only in person experience with him was at Fedex in the preseason. Griffin sat and signed autographs for ever and a day, Luck when he went in before and after the game completely ignored the Colts fans that were cheering to him, even some other Colts stopped and signed autographs for their fans.

I really would understand if RW wins it, I don't think he had the impact (non-stats) as RGIII, but he was a classy leader, who played the underdog role to perfection.

I think there are a number of reasons RW is more deserving than RG3 or Luck. I don't think anyone can dispute that if you include playoffs RW had the best season without much debate. People love to talk about how much help Russell had in Seattle, but IMO he had the least talented overall receiving core. Sidney Rice hasn't been impressive since moving to Seattle and Golden Tate doesn't scare anyone. The guy improved every single game and SHREDDED the niners at the end of the season, which was the most impressive win by a rookie IMO. In Atlanta he carried the team on his back to a near upset without much help at all from the running game.

Luck won a lot of games, which is nice, but look at the teams he beat. Other than winning against GB and the Texans at home (and the texans were not playing good ball at that point) none of his victories are very impressive. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/14874/andrew-luck
He threw for a lot of yards but he also threw the ball 627 times yet threw fewer TDs and more Ints than Wilson. You are not going to convince me that Russell couldn't have put up similar numbers if he was allowed to chuck it around like that. (RW threw the ball 393 times). Like I said earlier Luck has the most potential of all these guys but you don't award people based off potential. Not to mention who really got pumped up to play the colts this season? They got to play the underdog role all year with low expectations for the team.

Interestingly, RG3 and RW both threw the ball 393 times in the regular season. Both had running games with similar levels of success. RW had 6 more Tds and one more Int. RG3 threw for 200 more yards. Russell Wilson won 1 more game than RG3 in the regular season. In my opinion the redskins offense seemed less open than seattle's, especially as the season progressed and RW was let of his leash in Seattle. It seemed many of RG3's successful throws were quick passes with a lot of YAC. I think by the time the playoffs rolled around RW grew a lot more that RG3. Just watch the Seatle-Was playoff game, RG3 was staring down his primary target practically every time he threw.

I suspect RG3 will win the award, but I think RW is most deserving.

I think that's a fair assessment. I don't know about RGIII in the playoff game, I would have to see it again, but clearly after he tweaked his knee, his performance went to 0.

I think there are a number of reasons RW is more deserving than RG3 or Luck. I don't think anyone can dispute that if you include playoffs RW had the best season without much debate. People love to talk about how much help Russell had in Seattle, but IMO he had the least talented overall receiving core. Sidney Rice hasn't been impressive since moving to Seattle and Golden Tate doesn't scare anyone. The guy improved every single game and SHREDDED the niners at the end of the season, which was the most impressive win by a rookie IMO. In Atlanta he carried the team on his back to a near upset without much help at all from the running game.

Luck won a lot of games, which is nice, but look at the teams he beat. Other than winning against GB and the Texans at home (and the texans were not playing good ball at that point) none of his victories are very impressive. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/14874/andrew-luck
He threw for a lot of yards but he also threw the ball 627 times yet threw fewer TDs and more Ints than Wilson. You are not going to convince me that Russell couldn't have put up similar numbers if he was allowed to chuck it around like that. (RW threw the ball 393 times). Like I said earlier Luck has the most potential of all these guys but you don't award people based off potential. Not to mention who really got pumped up to play the colts this season? They got to play the underdog role all year with low expectations for the team.

Interestingly, RG3 and RW both threw the ball 393 times in the regular season. Both had running games with similar levels of success. RW had 6 more Tds and one more Int. RG3 threw for 200 more yards. Russell Wilson won 1 more game than RG3 in the regular season. In my opinion the redskins offense seemed less open than seattle's, especially as the season progressed and RW was let of his leash in Seattle. It seemed many of RG3's successful throws were quick passes with a lot of YAC. I think by the time the playoffs rolled around RW grew a lot more that RG3. Just watch the Seatle-Was playoff game, RG3 was staring down his primary target practically every time he threw.

I suspect RG3 will win the award, but I think RW is most deserving.

I don't have a problem with you choosing Wilson. But in comparing Wilson to Griffin later in the season, you have to remember Griffin's injury hindered him in those last three games. Griffin did NOT stare at his target every time he threw, but he did do so much more in that game than I'd seen him do all season.