No, there are notgoing to be three BILLION people killed by regulation of the Supplement market.

But thats what the Vitamin crowd would like you to believe.

This CODEX ALIMENTARIUS bullshit is nonsense, there is no truth to the claims being made about it, other than regulation of Food Supplements...

As long ago as 2005, rumors have been circulating around the net about some Nefarious Nazi Inspired PLOT to prevent the world citizens from receiving their required nutrition for survival.

Pretty scary sounding huh?Well, In fact, what is being legistlated is NOTHING like the conspiracy buffoons would have you believe.. They want you to think that some nefarious plot will be orchestrated in Dec of this year to clamp down on your HEALTh and NUTRITIOn, thereby achieving the amazing claim that THREE BILLION PEOLE WILL DIE from it.

If thats not a crock of shit, i dont know what is...Even Snopes has had their hand in debunking this one..and theyve done so since 2005.

Long read, so Ive bolded the important stuff..Jones will not like this at all, but such is telling the Truth...He hates it when i do that..

Dont let the fearmongers play your emotions to sell you lies about whats going on.Do the research yourself..and youll be able to verify what Snopes has already done for you. The information is really out there..The fearmongering about the Codex is a lie.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Claim: American consumers risk losing their right to purchase and use vitamins, minerals, and dietary supplements. Status: Multiple — see below: In June 2005 the USA will be forced to accept Codex regulation of vitamins, minerals, and dietary supplements: False.Bills proposing the regulation of dietary supplements are currently before Congress: Outdated.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Origins: This e-mailed alert began circulating on the Internet in January 2005. Although the call to arms is worded in such a way as to convince those who receive that their right to purchase vitamins, minerals, and dietary supplements in the U.S. is about to be lost to them unless they act decisively in defense of it, it is outdated and the facts of what is being considered by American lawmakers and why are radically dissimilar from the red cape being waved.

First of all, this is another case of an issue that is now largely moot due to outdated information. Back in 2003, two versions of a bill that proposed the regulation of dietary supplements (S. 722, the "Dietary Supplement Safety Act of 2003," and H.R. 3377, the "Dietary Supplement Access and Awareness Act") were introduced to Congress. Neither of these bills was ever voted upon, much less passed. They both expired with the end of the 108th Congress in 2004 and have not been reintroduced to the currently sitting 109th Congress.

Moreover, neither of these items of potential legislation was forced on the U.S. by an outside regulatory body, nor did they say anything about restricting the American public's access to vitamins and minerals. Their sole target was dietary supplements, a class of products that has been unregulated since 1994, when Congress passed legislation that exempted them from federal regulation. Claims that your right to take vitamins and minerals is about to be impaired or that you will require doctors' prescriptions to obtain such products should be regarded as attempts at rabble-rousing, deliberate moves to spur you into action against one thing by convincing you that something very different and far closer to your heart is at stake.

Vitamins and minerals are not under the gun. Dietary supplements are. And no outside regulatory body is behind this move: the proposed legislation is the work of American lawmakers looking to safeguard the public from the unscrupulous and the hazardous. If you take nothing else from this article, take the preceding three sentences.

Despite their presence on store shelves, not all dietary supplements are safe for consumers to use, let alone are beneficial to their health. Products can be 100% natural yet deliver a deadly payload, as have some in the past. Lacking regulation of such ingestibles, there is no protection afforded consumers, and authoritative-looking labels are no guarantee that what is being vended in those bottles they envelop is not harmful.

Like this Merlins Magician Herbal Elixir bullshit...(EMPHASIS MINE)

Under current law, dangerous supplements get onto the market and stay there, with serious physical harm resulting among those who use them, as was the case with ephedra, which caused strokes, heart attacks, and upwards of 150 deaths before the Food and Drug Administration was finally able to get it out of the stores.

In 2004, according to the National Center for Complementary and Alternative Medicine, almost one in five Americans (19%) reported using a supplement, which means the pool of folks at risk is great. Yet the incentives are there for the dietary supplement industry to keep on doing what it has been doing: in 2002, it reported $18.7 billion in sales. With so much profit at stake, there is little desire on the part of manufacturers to police themselves or their products all that carefully.

It's not just about inherently dangerous substances being sold to the unwary as the latest miracle answer for what ails them — even when dietary supplements contain nothing obviously harmful, the current lack of regulation results in improperly manufactured or contaminated products reaching the public. Quality control is missing. Absent regulation, consumers have little reason to trust they are getting the dosage they believe they are taking. ConsumerLab.com, an independent laboratory that tests dietary supplements, found that some name-brand products contain only small quantities of the active ingredient on their label. "Some have none, some have 80 percent, some have 20 percent," Dr. Tod Cooperman, president of the lab, told ABC News. Also, some contaminated supplements reach the market and thus fall into the hands of unknowing consumers. In December 2004, pesticide was found in ginseng being vended on the East Coast, and heavy metals such as mercury and arsenic were discovered in herbal supplements.

Two bills put before Congress in 2003 looked to regulate dietary nostrums by imposing quality and safety standards on them, and giving the FDA the ability to take them off the market before a great number of folks have been harmed by them. In March 2003, Senator Richard Durbin introduced bill S. 722, the "Dietary Supplement Safety Act of 2003" in the U.S. Senate. The purpose of this legislation was to "protect consumers from dangerous dietary supplements such as ephedra and other stimulants by requiring manufacturers to submit proof that their product is safe prior to bringing it to market." The bill would require manufacturers of the most dangerous types of dietary supplements (stimulants) to submit proof of their products' safety prior to bringing them to market. The bill also expands the FDA's authority to require from any dietary supplement maker proof of its product's safety if that agency has received information suggesting the product is causing death or other serious adverse health effects. It would also require manufacturers to report serious adverse health events (e.g.; heart attack, seizure, stroke, death), to the FDA no later than 15 calendar days after they learn of them. The bill also looks to close a loophole in current law that, according to Senator Durbin, "has been exploited by many dietary supplement manufacturers, allowing anabolic steroids to be sold widely as dietary supplements" by clarifying that anabolic steroids are not dietary supplements and are subject to regulation that restricts their availability under the Controlled Substances Act.

In October 2003, Representatives Susan Davis (D-CA), Henry Waxman (D-CA) and John Dingell (DMI) introduced bill H.R. 3377, the "Dietary Supplement Access and Awareness Act" in the U.S. House of Representatives. This legislation would increase the FDA's authority over dietary supplements, enabling that agency to monitor the health risks of dietary supplements and take appropriate action if problems develop. The proposed law was not intended to have any impact on the regulation of vitamins and minerals, which are specifically excluded from the bill. In addition, for dietary supplements that contain herbs, amino acids, and other botanicals, the bill will ensure that FDA has basic information about who makes them and the products' ingredients. It would also require dietary supplement manufacturers to provide FDA with information about all adverse events, so that the agency could spot warning signs and investigate if necessary. It further allows the FDA to prohibit sales to minors of supplements that may cause significant harm to children. Finally, it allows the FDA to demand safety information from a manufacturer if the FDA has evidence that a particular supplement may pose serious risks.

Getting back to the e-mail's claim that a foreign regulatory body is behind all this, we address the claim that:Your right to choose your vitamin, mineral and other supplements may end in June of this year (2005). After that U.S. supplements will be defined and controlled by the World Trade Organization (WTO) and the World Health Organization (WHO).The Codex Alimentarius Commission was created in 1962 by two United Nations organizations, the Food and Agriculture Organization and the World Health Organization. It is the body of government representatives and non-governmental organizations charged by the United Nations with establishing a reference for international guidelines on food law. However, it has no power to force its will on any nation. Codex standards are voluntary; no country is obligated to adopt them.

In November 2004, the Codex Alimentarius Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses (CCNFSDU) reached agreement on the definitions and regulatory guidelines for the worldwide use of vitamins and minerals in food supplements and presented its "Guidelines for Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplements" to the Codex annual meeting in Rome in July 2005. The Codex guidelines form a reference point that may be used in cases of international trade disputes in the area of food supplements. That, in a nutshell, is the extent of its teeth.

So my choices areA) Let the government handle it, cuz they protect us?B) Let the government handle it, cuz they care for us?C) Let the government handle it, cuz they believe it is the right thing to do?D) All of the above

I may accept that codex alimentarius is a fraud, but what I would like to see is the government poke their nose outta things like this just like they poke their nose into things. the thing that is the most scary for me is that when a rumor like this gets started, its not that I am a conspiracy nut, its that many of these scenarios seem to have a grain of truth to them. That collectively we believe the government would do these things.

I am really tired that the government plays on our fears, a lot more than Alex Jones has.I am really tired that the government uses us as pawns in whatever game they are playing today.Considering how many times Alex Jones has hurt me, taken my hard earned money, experimented on me, lied to me, etc.... = I would think Alex Jones is probably more for American people than a good lot of those politicians that are supposed to represent us. Don't get me wrong, I don't even like Alex, I think he is a bit nuts, but I think he is sincere in his belief that what he is doing and saying is the right thing to do and I respect him for doing and saying it. Now the government... when they tell me that they have it all under control, Now I have to check and see if all my parts are still attached.

So? Good for Snopes, its just a bad story that got passed around - but the rumor lingers because the government is actually capable of committing what the rumor suggests - the fear remains. It's why 9-11 truthers don't disperse, because the government is actually capable of doing it.

If the codex is fraud, then I wonder what else I must have missed that slipped through when I was paying attention to it?

I worked in a restaurant a couple of years ago...once i had to clean up a room where i had never been..there was a big orange bag ... with little balls in it..and on this bag there is a .....................Codex alimentarus logo! so i dont think its a hoax...it exists...

I aint saying that we are all going to die from it...but at that time i was a bit astonished...thought it was a hoax.

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