A path without science ends up in darkness
Ataturk was Alevî too and has the same belief

We had gender equality back 1400 years ago etc

Quotes of Haji Bektas Veli (Alevi saint)

Any road that doesn’t follow science, ends in darkness,
Give education to women,
Control on your tongue, hands and waist,
The greatest book to read is man himself,
Honesty is the door of a friend,
Being a teacher is to give, not to take,
The universe is for man, and man for the universe,
Science illuminates the paths of truth,
We travel in the way of science, comprehension and human love,
Clean where you’ve settled and deserve the money you’ve made,
Let’s be one, be big and energetic,
Don’t hurt anyone, even though you’ve been hurt,
Don’t ask anyone for anything that would be difficult for you to do,
Don’t blame any nation or individual,
Blessed are those who illuminate the darkness of thought,
Keep on searching, and you’ll find,
The beauty of the face consists of the words you speak,
Don’t forget that even your enemy is human,
The biggest God-given miracle is work,
In the language of friendly conversation, you can’t discriminate between man and woman,
Everything God has created is in order,
To us, there’s no difference between man and woman,
If you think there is, you’re mistaken.
His thoughts are based on human love and human existence. This vision is similar to the 1948 Charter on Human Rights. His thoughts were also shared by
M. Kemal Atatürk 600 years later, and the Turkish Republic was built on the principles of secularism, democracy and respect for human rights. His
thoughts are still alive and still lighten the way for many people.

It’s not the trivet but the fire gives the heat,
The miracle is not in the crown but in the khirkah (woolen garment worn by a dervish)
Whatever you’re searching for, search in yourself,
It’s neither in Jerusalem, Mecca nor in the Hadj.

Open your hand (be generous to everyone),
Share your food,
Open the door of your house when somebody needs shelter,
Close your eyes (don’t be led astray by the artificial beauties of the world),
Control your waist (Don’t be a victim of your sexual impulses),
Control your tongue.
He who comes with patience and God,
Stands by our side.
He who works with morality and wisdom and passes us,
And stands our side.

As Alevî s we believe in science, all faiths are the truth, we do not segregate

First let me say welcome to ATS. New ideas and thoughts should always be appreciated.

I spoke with a girl from Kazakhstan... They are Muslim mostly in the country. I made the comment that since they were Muslim maybe some of the insane
religious madness would pass them by.... She just said, "we are the wrong kind of Muslim!" So I wish you luck with your heart felt beliefs knowing
there are those who would persecute you... There are those who will persecute anyone for anything... Kinda sick no ?

As Alevî s we believe in science, all faiths are the truth, we do not segregate

First let me say welcome to ATS. New ideas and thoughts should always be appreciated.

I spoke with a girl from Kazakhstan... They are Muslim mostly in the country. I made the comment that since they were Muslim maybe some of the insane
religious madness would pass them by.... She just said, "we are the wrong kind of Muslim!" So I wish you luck with your heart felt beliefs knowing
there are those who would persecute you... There are those who will persecute anyone for anything... Kinda sick no ?

Thanks pal

Yep exactly throughout history we have been persecuted, burned alive, tortured, put in ovens, babies removed from wombs, raped, massacred etc

BTW it was Alevî Erenleri whom spreader Islam across anatolia and the Balkans, thr ottomans were Alevî until 1500 year, after they adopted wahabi
arap culture and wahabi like ideology this is when the ottomans collapsed

Welcome to ATS friend. Beautiful! True saints of Truth need to speak out. God's pure teaching is always beautiful.
Throughout the ages demonic Jackals hijack Gods teaching to us. Pollute it. They divide us from one and other. The teaching is always simple and
bound in love but the dark worldly forces always begin to corrupt it over time.
That list you present is beautiful and represents what I know the real Islam to be.

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