Police Fatally Shoot Man in South L.A.; Family Members Say He Was Lying Down When Sho

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Re: Police Fatally Shoot Man in South L.A.; Family Members Say He Was Lying Down When

Originally Posted by DVSentinel

From the article
"Officers sustained minor scrapes during the altercation and did not require hospitalization"
So how is it you explain that a cop sustained those scrapes during an altercation if the suspect was complying and lying on the ground?

Originally Posted by DVSentinel

Uh, if the suspect was on the ground, how did the officer get the scrapes/scratches?
I think we need to let investigations take place instead of getting emotional over what someone says.
Just like others in the past, Al Sharpton and his crowd will be all over this like flies on ****, stink even worse and cause so much emotional and hearsay problems that we will likely never know the truth.

Well, sound deductive reasoning tells us that if I, a netizen on the other side of the country cannot satisfactorily answer the question of how some guy in California got scraped, the dead guy presented a clear and present danger to the officer who shot him.
It just sound deductive reasoning.
If the dead guy was not a imminent danger to the cop, I would know exactly how some guy in California got scraped.

Your astute question has categorically proven that the dead guy had it coming. After all, if the dead guy were innocent, a netizen on the other side of the country would know how some guy in California got scraped.

wait...
what?
or not...
w/e

Originally Posted by DVSentinel

You mean the same mythical WMDs that ISIS seized?

Yellow cake is NOT a WMD.
You'd literally need tons of the stuff to make a dirty bomb with it.

Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon

for anyone who is interested here's some info about different dirty bomb materials [hello, NSA]

...dirty bombs do not use fissile material. ... These materials...are not radioactive enough. Their radioactive emissions don't travel far and are blocked by simple barriers, including skin and clothing. A dirty bomb would use small amounts of highly radioactive materials such as cesium or cobalt, not uranium. Even specks of these elements send out deadly gamma rays that penetrate walls and bodies causing immediate injury. The Federation of American Scientists has calculated that a mere 41 grams (1.4 ounces) of cesium-137 in a dirty bomb could contaminate most of Manhattan. By contrast, it would take 1,460 tons [about 3 million pounds] of low-enriched uranium to get the same levels of radiation.

Even tiny amounts of a material with a half life of days will be intensely radioactive because the material is disintegrating so fast. It will not, however, be a good dirty bomb material because too much will decay while the bomb is being built. Even if the bomb disperses the material, just waiting several days for the material to decay naturally will allow people to return to the contaminated areas. At the opposite extreme, radioactive materials with extremely long half lives just do not decay quickly enough to cause much radiation. Looked at another way, to get dangerous levels of radiation requires huge quantities of material if the material decays very slowly. Uranium is more than 99% U-238, which has a half life of almost five billion years

Re: Police Fatally Shoot Man in South L.A.; Family Members Say He Was Lying Down When

Originally Posted by DVSentinel

From the article

"Officers sustained minor scrapes during the altercation and did not require hospitalization"

So how is it you explain that a cop sustained those scrapes during an altercation if the suspect was complying and lying on the ground?

The officer told them rudely to get out of the road. They said they were almost to where they were going. Officer backed up and almost hit jaywalkers because he was too close. Officer opened door into jaywalker/s and was so close door hit jaywalker and bounced or was pushed closed. Officer reached out car window and grabbed Brown around the neck and tried to pull him into the car. I think this could account for scrapes.

Re: Police Fatally Shoot Man in South L.A.; Family Members Say He Was Lying Down When

Another black man shot in the back while complying with police orders.

WTF? are police departments having open season on black people or what?

Family and friends often say many things. I'm sure an investigation will uncover the truth.

For example:

LONG BEACH >> The fatal shooting of an alleged burglar by a homeowner in the beach-side neighborhood of Bluff Heights early Sunday morning has again stirred a debate over the rights of homeowners to defend themselves.

While the victim’s friends are calling the shooting a murder, many in the neighborhood — all of whom wanted to remain anonymous — said the homeowner was justified in his use of force

Evidence collected at the scene indicates that Anderson scaled a wall to gain access to the backyard then broke a window to enter the home, according to a Long Beach Police Department statement. Police have not said whether Anderson was armed, but he was found with personal property belonging to the resident.

Re: Police Fatally Shoot Man in South L.A.; Family Members Say He Was Lying Down When

Originally Posted by DVSentinel

You mean the same mythical WMDs that ISIS seized?

Yes. The same empty cannisters identified by the UN investigation of Saddam's WMD facilities in 2002/3 led by Scott Ritter and authorized and funded by the UN. The same investigators who said they had unimpeded access to all of Iraq's suspected WMD facilities. Yes, the same WMD leftovers id'd and location revealed before the Iraq invasion and terror war on the Iraqi people that caused al Queda to respond in Iraq.

Re: Police Fatally Shoot Man in South L.A.; Family Members Say He Was Lying Down When

Originally Posted by Montecresto

Since when does a cop sustaining MILD scrapes when subduing someone require him being killed?

When the cop knows he is being attacked/resisted without knowing if the suspect is high on something or armed.

How does someone cooperating and not resisting cause scrapes? Too many questions unanswered at this point to say it was an injustice or that shooting was not justified. We also have a fellow suspect and the dead persons relative as witnesses and making statements about what happened in a neighborhood type that is known to be unfriendly and uncooperative with police, not exactly the most reliable sources.

Re: Police Fatally Shoot Man in South L.A.; Family Members Say He Was Lying Down When

Originally Posted by DVSentinel

When the cop knows he is being attacked/resisted without knowing if the suspect is high on something or armed.

How does someone cooperating and not resisting cause scrapes? Too many questions unanswered at this point to say it was an injustice or that shooting was not justified. We also have a fellow suspect and the dead persons relative as witnesses and making statements about what happened in a neighborhood type that is known to be unfriendly and uncooperative with police, not exactly the most reliable sources.

Re: Police Fatally Shoot Man in South L.A.; Family Members Say He Was Lying Down When

Originally Posted by AJiveMan

So the percentages of blacks being slaughtered is nothing to moan and bitch about huh? we just just all move along now, nothing to see here attitude?

Me thinks this is why America has problems with racial tensions, because some people marginalize a black person getting shot, by a cop no less.

Oh, what color was the cop? If the cop were black, we might not see a blackout (no pun intended or implied) by LA cops.

The point is, we shouldn't marginalize a death, regardless of color. Making it an issue of color is racist, and its what is feeding racial tensions.
Why are race mongers only appearing when a person of color is killed by a cop, where are they when a youth kills another youth during a drive by shooting or gang initiation, regardless of color?
Why is this making headlines? Because the kid was of color? Who are the real racists, who is profiting from pointing to a skin color instead of reporting a death of a human being? Who is stirring racial tensions and why?