Saturday June 14, 2014, 10:49 am
so you want to put children that aren't yours at risk in the hope that the nutter will be responsible? people that advocate and own pit bulls have the lowest IQ's of all major groups worldwide. they do not have the capacity to be responsible. and it is a disgrace that the sector of society ( the nutter ) is also the group that is on public assistance the most. someone has to one day do a study to find out way the sector of society that is the most on welfare is the one that owns these dogs.
in other words, we that pay taxes can't have our kids playing in our own yards and on our streets because the ones soaking up our tax dollars and food stamps want to own a child killer. that's sick thinking. the breed will get banned, and here in nyc landlords and insurance companies are leading the charge.
a 3 year old girl gets kicked out of a KFC because of the scars left on her face by a nutters pit bull and she doesn't get a smidgen of pity from the blood lusty nutter. http://www.inquisitr.com/1299135/victoria-wilcher-3-year-old-scarred-in-pit-bull-attack-asked-to-leave-restaurant/
but i bet you guys would love for the owner of that pit to be allowed to walk into KFC with his child disemboweling dog, wouldn't you?

Saturday June 14, 2014, 11:23 am
Being ignorant and calling breeds names that are basically untrue and painting all dogs within that breed with the same brush is not fair. I've come in contact with more pitbulls that have been mistreated by humans than the other way around.

Saturday June 14, 2014, 11:29 am
WILLINGLY Noted, Signed and Commented ..... Jun 14, 11:24 ... # 41 ........
"BSL is very aptly named - it's "B.S." Legislation !!! Each and every dog (whatever the breed) is an entity with its own character, its own personal history and its own personality. It is ludicrous to "lump them together" because of their "breed" and, even more so, their looks !! My heart breaks for the injustice this legislation causes - both to the dogs and their owners !!"
Thanks Karen and Patricia !!!

Saturday June 14, 2014, 11:53 am
The public MUST be re-educated ....This breed ,and other dogs mixed with this breed have been wrongly condemned
for too long. Shelters must be part of this re-education program and must help by allowing the intended pet parent looking to adopt know the true facts on these pups....,

Saturday June 14, 2014, 12:51 pm
And on an another note, I see that the idiot Justin Vale is still around. It seems like he is stalking certain people by finding their petitions and making absurd comments to uspset everyone.

Saturday June 14, 2014, 12:56 pm
Every year more children are victims of domestic violence or violent crimes than being bitten by Pit bulls, but no one punishes the parents or watches the pedophiles in the way they do it with the dogs; physical scars heal and you can live with but the emotional scars haunt you for a lifetime.I feel really sorry for you, Justin. What has happened to you, that takes your anger out on innocent animals .The owners of the dogs are to blame when the dog bites then please give them a telling-off, but probably you do not dare. All hat and no cattle

Saturday June 14, 2014, 1:29 pm
What about all the children who have fallen victim to domestic violence? to paedophiles? to gang violence?
Far far more than by all dog breeds combined! let alone Pit Bulls.You need to pay far more attention to these creeps trolling the streets, not the pit bulls.

Saturday June 14, 2014, 1:53 pm
S & N. So misunderstood and much maligned. A wonderful dog that would give it's life for it's owner. In Massachusetts less than 2 years ago, a young man had given his alcoholic mother a beautiful pitbull for company. One night the woman was drunk, as usual, and walking home with the dog, from her friend's house. She was walking on railroad tracks and passed out on the tracks. This wonderful dog saw a train approaching and instead of running away from it, he pulled the woman off the tracks, but was hit by the train, and the poor doll lost a leg! Then last year, an ignorant landlord made a tenant get rid of her pitbull puppy. The person she gave it to, also gave the dog up, and the poor thing ended up in the hands of that monster in the Boston area. That dog was Kiya, one of the worst cases of abuse, who had to be put down, her injuries were too severe to save her. If that asshole landlord hadn't made Kiya's original owner give her away, she'd still be alive, living with a couple other pets her owner had. This BullShitLaw is just that, BS. It needs to be abolished. It's not the breed, it's the 2-legged irresponsible idiots that cause an aggressive dog. Thanks so much, Patricia and my dear Karen.

Saturday June 14, 2014, 2:36 pm
Patricia thank You for posting Karen thank you for sharing.
Pit Bulls have been subjected to a sort of racial profiling. The breed is not the problem.
"Of all the animals, man is the only one that is cruel. He is the only one that inflicts pain for the pleasure of doing it." –Mark Twain

Saturday June 14, 2014, 6:25 pm
Noted and signed. Over 70% of Michael Vick's dog, EVEN after being professional fight animals, have moved successfully into becoming loving members of normal families. It's not the Breed, its the Breeder.

Saturday June 14, 2014, 11:52 pm
“People speak sometimes about the "bestial" cruelty of man, but that is terribly unjust and offensive to beasts, no animal could ever be so cruel as a man, so artfully, so artistically cruel.”
― Fyodor Dostoyevsky

Sunday June 15, 2014, 12:02 am
Patricia thanks for posting and Karen for your awesome expression in your petition. Your beloved Puppins and Chase are watching over you and guiding you with their love dear heart, and someday, hopefully sooner than later Pitty's will be FREE from the false stigma's ignorant people have forced upon them.
I posted your petition to Twitter and I'm really hoping you get many more signatures... so come on Care2 friends,
lets get the signatures happening !
Forwarding to friends now ...

Sunday June 15, 2014, 12:15 am
There are no bad dogs ! only BAD OWNERS ! My son has had pit bulls all his life and his 4 children have never been harmed. Nor has anyone else who has ever been in contact with these loving dogs. He has had several pit bulls over the years
and so have other family members and there have never been any problems.

Sunday June 15, 2014, 2:35 am
If one are good to animals and respect them for what they are, they too will enjoy being with humans. After all................, they will then have no reason to behave what we will think of as "bad attitude" or worse........

Sunday June 15, 2014, 9:07 am
Humans can make any animal neurotic, even other humans. Don't blame an entire breed for what bunch of stupid humans do. For one thing, it doesn't stop a problem. The stupid humans will just be stupid with another breed of dog.

Sunday June 15, 2014, 10:38 am
Noted and signed The pitbull is a very intelligent animal and very friendly when trained properly, they are very easily trained. Irresponsible owners are the reason for the bad reputation that these dogs have, the reason they usually train them to be over aggressive is because they are usually into criminal activity.

"Humans will never learn that they should take responsibility for their own actions. It's that much easier to blame a certain breed like in this case. Stop this BSL and go after the real culprits = the human beings. Thanks Karen and Patricia and hopefully the CDN Gov will respond positively."

Thanks Monika for the forward and Karen and Patricia for the petition.

Sunday June 15, 2014, 1:13 pm
Unbelievable to me and many others that the Staffordshire bull terrier has been ostracized to such a degree. Apparently there are not enough who remember "The Little Rascals" and "Petey" (the pit). Petey was a member of the family, a protector and true companion to all those kids for many years. In the past decade or more, certain OWNERS have taken this beautiful breed and tried to turn him into a monster. These sick, demented individuals have taken advantage of their stature and massive strength. They have inbred, abused, used them as bait and trained them to "kill or be killed". All for personal gain! Those SICKO'S of society need to be culpable for their actions and suffer the price... just like Michael Vic!!
I wish you luck Karen and Patricia.

Sunday June 15, 2014, 1:23 pm
Justin how about providing some scientific evidence to support your statements ?

On January 5th, 2011, James McWilliams published an article in the New York Times titled “Breeding Killers?” discussing the topic of BSL and breed bans. He attempts to describe the nature of pit bulls and uses his personal experience to qualify the argument that pit bulls are, “genetically hardwired to be anxious, aggressive and defensive.”[ii] Dr. Jim Ha, a Certified Applied Animal Behaviorist and professor at the University of Washington, responds, “There is no scientific evidence for this. When people make statements like that, they need to back it up. There are a lot of un-sourced statements out there.” Like so many other journalists, instead of reading and citing studies that would present scientific evidence contrary to his personal opinion, McWilliams justifies his genetic pontificating with personal anecdotes. His evidence is that he owned a pit bull in which “no amount of training or socialization helped him in the least”. Needless to say, his experience with just one pit bull does not constitute a scientific study and from a research perspective, this is a sample size of one dog that he uses to characterize millions of dogs.
http://www.examiner.com/article/breed-specific-legislation-a-look-at-the-evidence

Which dogs bite? An often-asked question is what breed or breeds of dogs are most “dangerous”?This inquiry can be prompted by a serious attack by a specific dog, or it may be the result of media-driven portrayals of a specific breed as dangerous.Although this is a common concern, singling out one or two breeds for control can result in a false sense of accomplishment. Doing so ignores the true scope of the problem and will not result in a responsible approach to protecting a community'y citizens.

Dog bite statistics are not really statistics, and they do not give an accurate picture of dogs that bite. Invariably the numbers will show that dogs from popular large breeds are a problem. This should be expected because big dogs can physically do more damage if they do bite, and any popular breed has more individuals that could bite. There are several reasons why it is not possible to calculate a bite rate for a breed or compare rates between breeds.

First, the breed of the biting dog may not be accurately recorded, and mixed breed dogs are commonly described as if they were purebreds. Second the actual number of bites that occur in a community is not known, especially if they did not result in serious injury. Third, the number of dogs of a particular breed or combination of breeds in a community is not known, because it is rare for all dogs in a community to be licensed, and existing licensing data is then incomplete. Breed data likely vary between communities, states, or regions and can even vary between neighborhoods within a community.

Statistics on fatalities and injuries caused by dogs cannot be responsibly used to document the "dangerousness" ” of a particular breed, relative to other breeds for several reasons. First, a dog’s tendency to bite depends on at least 5 interacting factors: heredity, early experience, later socialization and training, health (medical and behavioral), and victim behavior. Second, there is no reliable way to identify the number
of dogs of a particular breed in the canine population at any given time (eg, 10 attacks by Doberman Pinschers relative to a total population of 10 dogs implies a different risk than 10 attacks by Labrador Retrievers relative to a population of 1,000 dogs). Third, statistics may be skewed, because often they do not consider multiple incidents caused by a single animal. Fourth, breed is often identified by individuals who are not familiar with breed characteristics and who commonly identify dogs of mixed ancestry as if they were purebreds. Fifth, the popularity of breeds
changes over time, making comparison of breed-specific bite rates unreliable.

In Seattle earlier that year a speech and acting coach named Ellen Taft proposed legislation to the city council that would, if not outright ban the dogs, make it nearly impossible to legally maintain them within city limits. Another woman, Colleen Lynn, a freelance web designer, launched a victims’ advocacy site, inspired in part by an attack she sustained while jogging in Beacon Hill.

Those That Believe That Pit Bulls Are Not Disproportionately Dangerous

An animal behaviorist at the University of Washington

Dr. James Ha, an animal behaviorist at the University of Washington who has testified in the courtroom for numerous animal attack cases, agrees with Van Helvoort. Despite the splashy headlines and even the dog-bite death rates, there is nothing about pit bull–type dogs, as breeds, that makes them any more dangerous than many other dogs, Ha says. “We have to make a big distinction between a genetic breed predisposition, and how the animals are handled or trained. Many years ago German shepherds were the ‘bad’ dogs, because people kept them for protection, and criminals held them for protecting property. Then it was Dobermans, then Rottweilers, now pit bulls. All of these breeds have equally high aggression drives and can be trained, or mistreated, into becoming dangerous animals.” And while it’s true that due to breeding that took place a century ago, the dogs, with their superior neck and upper-body strength, are capable physically of doing deadly damage to humans and other animals, “pit bulls have no different threshold for aggression than those other breeds.”

Even the numbers that Taft, Lynn, and other proponents of breed-specific legislation (or BSL) recite are problematic. Because “pit bull” isn’t a breed but rather a catchall phrase to describe multiple breeds, when one notes that “pit bulls” killed, say, 18 people in 2006, that isn’t entirely fair. Rottweilers killed eight people that same year, but the 18 deaths attributed to “pit bulls” could have been executed by as many as three different breeds.

So pit bulls have a category problem, one that Malcolm Gladwell, in his oft-cited New Yorker article (“Troublemakers”), which questions the efficacy of BSL, describes this way: “When we say pit bulls are dangerous, we are making a generalization, just as insurance companies use generalizations when they charge young men more for car insurance.”

Really that's what this debate is all about. Non experts like Ellen the speech and acting coach and Colleen a freelance web designer pushing for a ban against Pit Bulls and experts like Dr. James the animal behaviorist that says the breed is not any more dangerous than many other dogs.

That said...brilliant Karen and Patricia. Thank you for doing this. Few dogs are as loyal, sweet, funny and dear as a pit bull. It is the humans that make them mean . It is the humans who are cruel and dangerous.

Sunday June 15, 2014, 1:52 pm
"The Dogs Are Alright", a PBS video chronicling the story of the Vick dogs. "Some of the most aggressively trained Pit Bulls in the country" accoriding to the Humane Soceity of the United States. Taken out of their environment many have become family pets and some have even become therapy dogs.

Sunday June 15, 2014, 2:56 pm
signed,my best friend has a pittie
I watched in horror as I saw them being trained to fight in the caribbean
IT SO DEPENDS ON THE OWNER
happy to sign ,thanks Karen,and Merci Monika for the fwd

Sunday June 15, 2014, 3:12 pm
Justin - I am really sick of your imappropriate and false comments! Flagged you for that!
Living myself with a pitbull for many years and knowing some more, I know what wonderful and loyal Dogs they are.
How many pitbulls do you know that you are able to judge over a whole breed?

Sunday June 15, 2014, 3:41 pm
Justin is present every time there is something about pit bulls spewing his venom and stereotyping which comes fem ignorance and stupidity. Like so many he knows nothing but pretends to know all about pits and instead of getting to know them as individuals and learn about them he prefers to malign them. I decided to go ruth by his comment today as I am tired of wasting my energy reading them. I know what they will say and the fact is that he is an idiot and basically a big putz- something derogative in Yiddish. If I could throw him out of this site I would. I wonder what would happen if we all just ignored him. Even seeing his name turns my stomach so that is what I will do. It is he and not the pits who are dangerous.

Sunday June 15, 2014, 5:13 pm
Signed!!!
When do people finally understand that dogs (regardless what breed) are NOT born aggressive??!!!!!!
They are FORCED to become aggressive by so called "humans"!!!!!

Sunday June 15, 2014, 6:21 pm
Gladly signed. Well done Patricia and Karen!
Luckily here in the U.K I'm freely able to have the love and companionship of my Staffy. But that's all it's down to....the luck of BSL differing around the World. Yet the breeds of are being seized here for no valid reason even.

Flagged the spam.
Thanks for forwarding onto me dear Karen. In my thoughts still for the too sadder loss of Chase, so soon after Mr.Puppins ~♡~

Sunday June 15, 2014, 7:03 pm
GOOD EVENING DEAR ROSEMARY---THANK YOU FOR FORWARDING THIS ARTICLE AND PETITION TO MY ATTENTION-- AND THANK YOU TO KAREN G- AND PATRICIA FOR WRITING THIS PETITION AND ARTICLE- I KNOW HOW DEAR PITT BULLS ARE TO KAREN;S HEART-- I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING MR PUPPINS AND CHASE IN THE CAT LOVERS GROUP - WHERE MY LITTLE FEMALE MINI DACHSHUND (COCO CHANEL) GOT TO PLAY WITH THEM ALONG WITH MOUSE AND STRIPES - NOW COCO HAS MADE FRIENDS WITH CHLOE -MR PUPPINS AND CHASE;S SISTER. THERE IS NOTING WRONG WITH THE PITT BULL BREED- THERE ARE ONLY BAD AND MONSTER OWNERS AND TRAINERS. --THE MOVIE INDUSTRY HAS USED THE PITT BULL IN THE LITTLE RASCAL MOVIES FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND THEY NEVER HAD A PROBLEM OF THE DOG BITING ANY OF THE KIDS OR OF BEING AGGRESSIVE ---IT IS ALL IN THE TRAINING - THE PITT BULL BREED ARE LOYAL, AND PROTECTIVE AND ARE GREAT WITH KIDS AND FAMILIES - SO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK SINCERELY KAY M.

Sunday June 15, 2014, 8:29 pm
Noted and shared. I knew Justin would be here spewing his nonsense, but I see there's been enough said to him about how wrong he is. He doesn't listen to statistics and is definitely the nutter he is always screaming about.

It's NOT the dog, it's the OWNERS!! I am sick of people saying pitbulls are aggressive. Any dog that is taught to attack or fight, will. If you treat them with love they will love you back. Justin, GO AWAY! All you do is cause trouble. We Love every animal there is, you are a hater, we have no room for you here.

Thanks, Leslie for the forward. Thanks, Patricia & Karen for posting this here!

Sunday June 15, 2014, 11:51 pm
The breed of the dog is not the main reason why they are provoked to attack another person. What they feel and their behavior while they are staying with their owner reflects to what they are doing. It does not mean that the dog breed it this or that, it will attack everybody. No it is not.

Monday June 16, 2014, 10:04 am
A very small number of dogs, unprovoed, vere from their training. Allmost all the time when a dog misbehaves, the owner is responsible because of the training[or lack of traing] received.

Monday June 16, 2014, 12:30 pm
Noted previously signed. Thank you Karen & Patricia for all your work on this issue!
FLAGGED SPAMMER & REPORTED JUSTIN!
JUSTIN YOU COMMENTS ARE ALWAYS IGNORANT & VILE. Your comments this time are clearly RACIST and reek of your stupidity. I feel extremely for sorry for you and all the decent caring people who must come into contact w/you daily, forced to breath the toxic oxygen you create. Enough is enough! there are plenty of groups for you & your types...go find one & get off of care2, you are not welcome here. That is all I have to say to you, I will not feed your self centered ego and your insanity.

Tuesday June 17, 2014, 11:30 am
I thought I would provide a little background on the story that Justin posted in his rant above, about the 3-year old child that was thrown out of a KFC because one of the employees told the person that brought her there that she was so ugly that her face was scaring the other customers.

While all of this is true, what he failed to tell you was that the pit bulls that mauled this child were owned by the child's grandfather and the child lived there. When the three dogs attacked the child, the grandfather shot two on the spot and the police shot the third. Then, and this is important, the police took away the other 10 pit bulls that the grandfather had there on his property.

Now, what do you think the grandfather was doing with 13 pit bulls on his property. He was using them or breeding them or selling them into dog fighting. So while this is a horrible story about a stupid employee at KFC, the real story here which is not mentioned by Justin or in any of the articles I've read about this case, is the "dog fighting" aspect. Nope, not mentioned at all. Doesn't matter to anyone apparently that this grandfather is raising dogs to be tortured and to torture. Nope, that's ok apparently.

These dogs were not born inherently bad; they were trained to maim and kill by a human.

Tuesday June 17, 2014, 12:43 pm
The Pitbull was the original nanny dog. That was 80-90 years ago. Now they are vilified and people want them.banned! It's the owners of aggressive dogs that need the banning!! If their dogs were properly trained, they would not be better off, immensely!!
And Justin, you need to get a real life and get out of your mother's basement! Watching too much TV can rot your senses!!

Wednesday June 18, 2014, 3:02 pm
These dogs being so VOICELESS should not be expected to take the rap for sick, twisted mindsets who create circumstances that give these breeds a unfair reputation. I would much rather see encouragement to lessen their breeding opposed to increasing laws to murdering them.

Wednesday June 18, 2014, 4:22 pm
Noted, tweeted, shared and signed. People love to do things the easy way instead of thinking and doing research. It is easy to judge on appearance instead of documenting the truth. We jump to conclusions because we are too lazy to investigate..I agree with Patricia, if we can't stop the murder; we shouldl breed less and work on them becoming prestige breeds. Everyone wants to be among the elite so we could charge five times what the dogs generally go for on the market, breed less, and suddenly every greedy human who wanted to be a pet owner would buy Pitbulls with papers.

Wednesday June 18, 2014, 5:05 pm
Justin - you are an idiot, and not worth the time spent to tell you how wrong you are. Thanks to Martina, Vivian, Nyack and others who took the time! Signed and happily shared.

Thursday June 19, 2014, 12:01 pm
Noted and signed. Nice post for a very good cause, Patricia. Thanks 4 letting everyone see the TRUTH. Like soooo many in this thread that are already aware of, IT IS NOT THE DOG OR THE BREED OF DOG, IT IS THE IGNORANCE AND IRRESPONSIBILITY OF THE SO-CALLED "HUMAN" THAT OWNS AND / OR RAISES HIM / HER. And again, like soooo many before me here, Justin Vale, (arrrrggggghhhhh!) has also been flagged by me as inappropriate.

Thursday June 19, 2014, 10:35 pm
WTF IS SO F*CKING WRONG WITH THOSE THAT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT PITTS OR ANY OTHER ''PERCEIVED'' 'BULLY'' DOGS !!!!! GOOD GOD! GET TO KNOW THEM. GO TO A DOG PARK!!! I LOVE ''BULLY DOGS'' AND I'VE ALWAYS HAD THEM (MOSTLY ROTTIES). THEY ARE THE BIGGEST, MOST POWERFUL AND MOST LOYAL DOGS I'VE EVER KNOWN!!!! THEY ARE ALSO THE BIGGEST BABIES!!!!! THEY'RE PLAYFUL AND GENTLE AND THEY LIVE THEIR LIVES ONLY FOR YOU! THE ONLY THING THAT BOTHERED ME IS WHEN THEY'D STEP ON MY FOOT! GIVE THEM A DIRTY LOOK AND THEY'D DO ANYTHING TO TRY TO MAKE IT BETTER! THEIR FACIAL EXPRESSION WAS, CLEARLY, ''MOMMY, I'M SO SORRY. I WOULD NEVER HURT YOU''. TO THINK OF SO MANY BEING EUTHANIZED DAILY, IS A SICK, HORRIBLE PRACTICE! THEY ARE AWESOME ANIMALS!!! PLEASE! GET TO KNOW THEM BEFORE YOU SPEAK ILL OF THEM!

Friday June 20, 2014, 1:55 pm
Thank you so much for this petition!!! It absolutely gets to the point! The irresponsible behaviour of humans cause incidents with dogs NO MATTER WHAT BREED. And it's more than neccessary to stop the witch hunt on certain breeds. It's the humans that got to be stopped from misusing and abusing dogs for their weird ideas.