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Anyone who has the HQ Hybrid 240, can you please let me know what was used as a center spine in your kite. The one I purchased came with the thin tube small diameter carbon tube, which same type of tube was used for the upper leading wing spars and spreader. It is my understanding that Horvath's other kites in this size range, such as The Long Way Home, use a Skyshark wrapped carbon tube, which is much stiffer.

Still having problems getting this kite to float and soar in light to no winds. This kite has quite a bit of bow in the center spine. Thank you.

Thank you for the suggestion and I have other ultra light wrapped frames that I could use to replace the existing center spine. I am just trying to verify the stock settings to get this kite flying the best it can before I have to resort to changing how it was built. It is my understanding that Thomas Horvath put a lot of effort into developing this type of kite and I wish to keep this kite stock and get it dialed in to obtain its best possible flight characteristics.

When I built one of Thomas Horvath's great little Urban Ninjas, the plans directed you to start with two wraps of the Z-Line around the spreader. On the HQ Hybrid 240 that I purchased, it came with the Z-Line wrapped 4 times around the spreader, which provides a Z-Distance of 4 7/16" from the face of the sail (where the Z-Line is attached), to the center of the spreader (where the Z-Line is attached). I just changed the Z-Line to two wraps around the spreader, which lengthens the Z-Distance to 5 5/8". This took most of the excessive bow out of the center spine and may cure the porpoising problem that was occurring even with the nose weight that I added.

When the wind dies down again in the evening, I will give it a try. It would be helpful to know how Thomas Horvath wished to have this kite setup for the ideal stock settings. Once I get it dialed in, I will share with you my settings.

The Long Way Home uses 2pt as center spine and as both leading edges. In the center, the small end goes forward. For a really light center, and probably improved stiffness too, you could use one of the new Zero Air rods. On the Like a Rolling Stone UL, all the spars are micro-carbon, but Thomas suggested somewhere on his website that a G-force Skinny could be used as a replacement center spine to add a bit of performance outdoors. I haven't done yet.

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