In fact, US President Barack Obama talks about his upbringing and how he was exposed to different faiths and cultivated the need for openness. In The Audacity of Hope, he writes: “I was not raised in a religious household. For my mother, organised religion too often dressed up closed-mindedness in the garb of piety, cruelty and oppression in the righteousness. However, in her mind a working knowledge of the world’s great religions was a necessary part of any well-rounded education.”

Obama as Shiva

(Obama) continued: “In our household the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagvat Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology.” Obama carries the lucky charm of Lord Hanuman in his pocket and is familiar with the Hindu popular scripture, the Ramayan.

Maybe now we can shed new light on Obama's Hanuman charm.Some saw this as proof of Obama's pagan-Muslim-communist-Nazi treachery, but others took a different view, one that takes on a whole new significance in light of this weekend's festivities:

In any event, one can't help but think of the famous description of Arjuna given in Bhagavad-gita: "At that time Arjuna, the son of Pandu, seated in the chariot bearing the flag marked with Hanuman, took up his bow..." (1.20)

Vaishnava commentators have expressed the significance of the Hanuman emblem on Arjuna's chariot.

"The emblem of Hanuman on the flag of Arjuna is another sign of victory," Srila Prabhupada writes in his purport to this verse, "because Hanuman cooperated with Lord Rama in the battle between Rama and Ravana, and Lord Rama emerged victorious."

But the whole appearance of Hanuman takes us further back to a topic we explored months before Obama was elected, that being the interesting parallels between the image Obama was projecting during the election and Deep Space Nine's Captain Sisko. That brought us back to one of the most enigmatic episodes in the High Weirdness canon:

Let's stop to ponder all of this for a second- In The Stargate Conspiracy, Picknett and Prince argue that a disincarnate group of alien beings called the Council of Nine were psychically channeled by a group of trance mediums in the 1970s, and have since had/have a powerful grip on some of the most influential people in the US, if not the world.

Sounds crazy, right? I'm starting to wonder.

There's no doubt that Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry worked directly with the group claiming to channel the Council of Nine. Now we see that there were nine major characters in Star Trek: The Next Generation, there was Deep Space Nine and now the 1999 divorce of the actress who played "Seven of Nine" on Voyager might be ultimately responsible for the election of the next US president.

Tangential, certainly, but that election did transpire even if the image we have now of Obama is almost diametrically opposed to the one we had during the election. But that's par for the course for the twist-filled Nine story. But not only do we have the Seven of Nine link (Seven being the biggest star by far of the Star Trek sky since Jean Luc Picard), Obama's Hanuman lucky charm provides us with yet another powerful link to the Nine saga.

First, a bit of background is in order.

Now, Picknett and Prince's Stargate Conspiracy is filled with bizarre leaps, endless axe-grinding and an extremely impeachable star witness in the person of Ira "Unicorn Killer" Einhorn. They connect everything and anything back to the Nine, often using several tenuous degrees of separation to hurl accusations and dream up conspiracies amongst disparate researchers whose biggest crime seems to be selling more books than they do.*

In fact, the Nine are relatively obscure compared to other channeling figures like Ramtha and Seth. Attempts to publicize Lab9's work were extremely low-key; I don't recall hearing of them until a few years back, even though I've had my eye on the weirdness and new age scenes since the early 80s.

But the biggest pitfall in Stargate Conspiracy is that perhaps eyeing the burgeoning conspiratainment market, Picknett and Prince present the Nine as another 70s cult/mind-control gambit cooked up for the sheeple, overlooking the fact that Puharich and company were involved with whatever phenomenon they took to be the Nine for a mind-boggling 25 years before they went public (with Stuart Holroyd'sBriefing for the Landing on Planet Earth).

Of course, Puharich initially went public a couple years before Briefing with his rapturous descriptions of the Nine in his book Uri, which you can read online here. It's very hard to argue that Puharich wasn't a true believer in the Nine at the time, given the fact that he shoehorns his devotion to them in his account of his time spent with Israeli "psychic" Uri Geller. It may be that Puharich was telling tales out of school in Uri, which necessitated a PR campaign as damage control.†

And again, the efforts to publicize Lab9's beliefs were minimal compared to more obvious mind control cults like the Unification Church, EST, and the People's Temple. Compared to the big kahuna of mass mind control - the Evangelical movement- the Nine were practically invisible. And not only invisible, but extremely elitist. From Peter Levenda's Sinister Forces:

These are the shepherds, not the sheeple. Whatever they thought they were accessing in this work, they seemed to want it all to themselves. After a brief flurry of activity in the late 70s, the Nine set up camp at Esalen and created considerable tension between Institute cofounders Dick Price and Michael Murphy before they vanished once again. Not much of substance has been heard of Lab9 or the Nine since Puharich's death in 1995 (Puharich was also involved in the Law of One channeling sessions following his break with Lab9 in the early 80s).

So what does this have to do with Obama? Well, let's go back to the Hanuman charm. It seems that the Hindu monkey god played a very important part in the story of the Nine:

Some months later, on June 7, 1953, the night of the full moon, Puharich gathered around him what was to be a core group of the Round Table Foundation for another session with Vinod…

The séance proceeded in the following fashion: Dr. Vinod sat on the floor, the nine members of the group in a circle around him, with a copper plate on his lap, prayer beads in his hands, and a small statue of “Hanoum,” a Hindu god that the author believes to be Hanuman, the Monkey King.

Now there's a lot of talk that Obama is a secret Muslim, but longtime Secret Sun readers are familiar with Knowles' Law, which states that any time there is a controversy over symbols in the media it is actually camoflaging a different - and usually opposite- meaning. I think it's just as likely that Obama is a secret Hindu, or perhaps even an adherent to some sect or cult arising from the Indian subcontinent.

It's no surprise to Secret Sun readers that Obama would throw in his lot with India, perhaps signaling a move away from the China/Bush Family/Saudi axis. The sudden reappearance of Ancient Astronaut Theory (essentially invisible during the Bush II Administration) in the media might be part of this program, particularly as China lurches towards becoming a full-blown Evangelical theocracy. Despite the power of Hindu fundamentalism in India, there is still a deep distrust of religious extremism among many Indians, particularly those in the educated classes. As I wrote last year:

India may well turn out to be the major technological superpower of the coming century. Their schools are turning out engineers at a rate that dwarfs US and Europe combined. They've launched their own space program and recently landed a probe on the Moon. And if this recent editorial in The Economic Times newspaper is any indication, their religious and cultural traditions may be more receptive to the idea of extraterrestrial life than those in the West.

But could there be something even deeper lurking beneath the surface here?

Having read Briefing for the Landing on Planet Earth and The Only Planet of Choice I've come away with the distinct impression that there are two Nines- the material that was released to the public during the PR campaign starting in the mid 70s and another Nine that was for elite consumption only. Why? Well, I simply can't imagine that the material printed in those books would keep the heavy hitters involved in Lab9 interested for 25 years. I have trouble spending more than 25 minutes reading them. Are there actually two Nines- public and private?

In occult lore, the Nine Unknown Men are a millennia-old secret society founded by the Indian Emperor Asoka c. 270 BCE. According to the legend, upon his conversion to Buddhism after a massacre during one of his wars, the Emperor founded the society of the Nine to preserve and develop knowledge that would be dangerous to humanity if it fell into the wrong hands.

And here's the kick in the head, when you're talking about camouflage:

The Nine were also charged by Asoka with manipulating the culture of India to present an image of a backwards and mystically-oriented people to the outside world in order to conceal the advanced scientific knowledge that was being accumulated within.

Some versions of the story include an additional motivation for the Emperor to conceal scientific knowledge: remnants of the Rama Empire, an Indian version of Atlantis, which according to Hindu scripture was destroyed by advanced weaponry 15000 years ago.

The Nine Unknown Men are residents in good standing of the Netherworld, having entered the culture through the work of authors whose work blurs the lines between the occult and fictional realms:

Numerous figures who straddled the line between occultism and science fiction writing, most prominently (and apparently first) Louis Jacolliot, Talbot Mundy, and later Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier in their Morning of the Magicians, propagated the story of the Nine claiming that the society occasionally revealed itself to wise outsiders such as Pope Sylvester II who was said to have received, among other things, training in supernatural powers and a robotic talking head from the group.

Among conspiracy theorists the Nine Unknown is often cited as one of the oldest and most powerful secret societies in the world. Unusually for the conspiracist subculture, the image of the group is largely though not entirely benign. Theosophists also believe the Nine to be a real organization that is working for the good of the world.

Each of the Nine is supposedly responsible for guarding and improving a single book. These books each deal with a different branch of potentially hazardous knowledge. The books are said to cover the following subjects:

1. Propaganda and Psychological warfare.

2. Physiology, including instructions on how to perform the “touch of death.”

3. Biology, Microbiology, and, according to more recent speculation, Biotechnology.

4. Alchemy, including the transmutation of metals.

5. Communication, including communication with extraterrestrials.

6. Gravitation, instructions necessary to build a vimana, sometimes referred to as the “ancient UFOs of India.”

7. Cosmology, the capacity to travel at enormous speeds through spacetime fabric, and time-travel; including intra- and inter-universal trips.

8. Light, the capacity to increase and decrease the speed of light, to use it as a weapon by concentrating it in a certain direction etc.

9. Sociology, including rules concerning the evolution of societies and how to predict their downfall.

So if the Obama Muslim rumors are meant to disguise his secret Hinduism, could the Lab9 PR campaign be a cover for the Nine Unknown? Or is it the other way around? Could both the Nine and the Nine Unknown be masks for yet another group altogether?

I can't answer that but I can offer that this presidency has some very strange fingerprints on it. Never mind the fact that the UFO and AAT issues have heated up like no time since the late 70s, when Lab9 were playing footsy with the mainstream.

Between all of the aliens on TV and at the movies, and all of the stories of exoplanets and sightings, the UFO topic is being mainstreamed like no other time in history. You can even feel the resolve of the professional media skeptics starting to waver. The more the media signals that this is a permissible topic of conversation, the more likely it becomes that very strange ideas like the Nine- or the Nine Unknown- will follow. It could well be that there are people in power who are way ahead of the curve here.

UPDATE: A reader brought up the Obama basketball injury, which actually got me back on this topic although I didn't make reference to it in the post. I had initially regarded the injury as just another sign of Obama's misfortunes, but the reader points us to this bit from Wiki, explaining the etymology of Hanuman's name (In Sanskrit, "injured jaw").

As a child, believing the sun to be a ripe mango, Hanuman pursued it in order to eat it. Rahu, a Vedic planet corresponding to an eclipse, was at that time seeking out the sun as well, and he clashed with Hanuman. In the nature of Rahu, the TamasGuṇa predominated. To convey a message to the universe that Satva Guṇa always prevails, Hanuman goes to take sun in his abode.[7]Indra, king of devas, was approached by Rahu with disappointment, enraging Indra, who responded by throwing the Vajra (thunderbolt) at Hanuman, which struck his jaw. He fell back down to the earth and became unconscious. Upset, Vayu went into seclusion, taking the atmosphere with him. As living beings began to asphyxiate, Indra withdrew the effect of his thunderbolt, and the devas revived Hanuman and blessed him with multiple boons.[8]A permanent mark was left on his chin (हनुः hanuḥ "jaw" in Sanskrit), explaining his name.

Note that in this picture Obama is clutching his jaw although the report has it that he split his upper lip. Note the absence of blood as well.

†A face-saving PR campaign would account for Gene Roddenberry's hiring for the never-produced promotional film. Roddenberry's time with Lab9 seems to have inspired his cynical God Thing screenplay, which later became the basis for the "Project Blue Beam" hoax. He obviously got a lot of story ideas from his time with Lab9, but it seems he wasn't exactly impressed with the group's work.

* For instance if I were to follow P/P's methodology, I could write a book arguing that they were just a couple of Masonic shills, seeing as how The Templar Revelation is nothing but a regurgitation of bog-standard, speculative Masonic tropes about Jesus and John the Baptist. Or how I could point out the tenuous connections between the book and The Da Vinci Code and weave a conspiracy out of that.

But I still believe in the rules of journalism. It's one thing to speculate - meaning "ask questions"- on a blog, it's another entirely to skirt the frontiers of libel in a book claiming a conspiracy among researchers whose work I don't like. After all, seeing how Picknett resorts to all of the prefab media logical fallacies when asked about aliens I could just as easily say she was just another media intel asset straight out of Tavistock. But that's not how I roll here on the Sun.

Chris, this topic is in synch with I have studied of late. Synchronicity is an amazing force. Who is currently invoking the nine rituals? That monkey god is key. It makes me want to study Hindi texts more closely. You gave us a subject to delve into, great werk Chris. Dennis(Go Ducks)

Ramayana in English version (preferably from an authenticated Indian website). PDF version is freely available, but can be of way above 50 mb in size. And to grasp the "core" summary/gist/teachings of this epic, you can also refer English texts of Swami Vivekananda too (as a reference). Google it. Hope you already have heard of all these. But the above article is not 100% true! ;-)

Hope you had a good Thanksgiving, Chris. I am thankful, as ever, for your blog.

I was actually thinking about these Obama/Hanuman connections yesterday when news came in about Obama's basketball mishap. Hanuman, as you may know, literally translates from the Sanskrit as "injured chin/jaw"...

As a child, believing the sun to be a ripe mango, Hanuman pursued it in order to eat it. Rahu, a Vedic planet corresponding to an eclipse, was at that time seeking out the sun as well, and he clashed with Hanuman. In the nature of Rahu, the Tamas Guṇa predominated. To convey a message to the universe that Satva Guṇa always prevails, Hanuman goes to take sun in his abode.[7] Indra, king of devas, was approached by Rahu with disappointment, enraging Indra, who responded by throwing the Vajra (thunderbolt) at Hanuman, which struck his jaw. He fell back down to the earth and became unconscious. Upset, Vayu went into seclusion, taking the atmosphere with him. As living beings began to asphyxiate, Indra withdrew the effect of his thunderbolt, and the devas revived Hanuman and blessed him with multiple boons.[8] A permanent mark was left on his chin (हनुः hanuḥ "jaw" in Sanskrit), explaining his name.

"But the biggest pitfall in Stargate Conspiracy is that perhaps eyeing the burgeoning conspiratainment market, Picknett and Prince present the Nine as another 70s cult/mind-control gambit cooked up for the sheeple, overlooking the fact that Puharich and company were involved with whatever phenomenon they took to be the Nine for a mind-boggling 25 years before they went public"

Actually Picknett and Prince cover Puharich & Co.'s channeling in the early 50s. Indeed, the cover it in quite a bit of detail.

"Now, Picknett and Prince's Stargate Conspiracy is filled with bizarre leaps... They connect everything and anything back to the Nine, often using several tenuous degrees of separation to do so."

Bizarre leaps? Like saying Obama is possibly a secret Hindu or part of some other super-secret esoteric sect/cult from India because... he has a lucky charm and went to India recently? And if the Nine Unknown Men (they're so advanced yet they don't let women join) are Buddhist, why is Obama a Hindu?

I'm not trying to be snotty, but sometimes the connections you make are extreeeeemely tenuous. And I think your obsession with science fiction & The X Files sometimes clouds your vision. There's a degree of wish fulfillment here. This desire for UFOs to be true (which they may well be). Just my 2 cents.

Dennis- Well the stuff they've been doing on Ancient Aliens certainly wants to make me study the texts as well. Fascinating connections there.

Anony- Yes, well done. I had left that out before but that picture of Obama clutching his jaw made that connection you point out. Thank you.

Pete- You could very well be right. We're using shorthand here, since all of the ancient texts refer to this being as space-faring. It could earlier human races, could be pre-cataclysm Martians.

"anonymous"- By overlook I mean they leave the fact that there was obviously a group of powerful people who believed this stuff and weren't just dreaming it all up for some kind of crowd control program.

Just thought I'd mention that the first image is that of the Buddhist Bodhisattva Tara. Tara, depending on spelling and Sanskrit word play, means Star (there's your 17 - see Thoth Deck)or 'to cross over.' In Tibetan she is called Drolma, meaning 'She who saves' and is seen as Quan Yin in China. She is very much the Mary, 'Our Lady of Stars' of the East. She makes an appearance in Hinduism as the second of the ten Mahavidyas, Goddesses of Knowledge.

This is great Chris, an eye opener. I like the sound of The Nines, I hope there are some good guys like that around. I keep thinking of that song - Three six nine, the goose drank wine. It's the nine and the monkey thing I guess. Hope you enjoyed your holidays. Thanks.

The Minbari, governed by a Grey Council of Nine members. Heavily influenced by the Vorlons, who are known to be abductees of humans for their own purposes going back at least as far as the late 19th Century (when they picked up Jack the Ripper)... who are at war with the Shadows, a Manichean struggle between forces of Order and Chaos respectively.

To round it off, the Minbari's hybrid warrior/priest order known as the Rangers - their oath is "We live for the One, we die for the One", which couldn't be more Taoist if it tried.

Since the Hanuman resonator has "war games" going on in the Pacific it might also be worth mentioning that in SOUTH KOREA today / now is November 28, 2010 (they are in timezone GMT +9)

November 28 is the 332 day of 2010 and only 33 days remain in the year.

Also, since CHINA (and Russia) recently announced they were dropping the US Currency for their trade, did you come across the Chinese "Hanuman" known as Shun Wu KONG or Sun Wu KONG.

I seem to recall there was some big controversy a while back over Obama being depicted in an editorial cartoon as a monkey?? Didn't pay much attention when it happened so I don't recall the details. But it is interesting now as SUN WU KONG is "the Flying Monkey King" in the Chinese pantheon.

(Which if nothing else is also a great SYNC to the reappearance / next edition of the DONKEY KONG video game for the WII console !)

Great column Chris! I think The Nine had plenty of influence on people of influence! Take Aliester Crowley and his Aiwass Diety, and his religion of Thelema, which teaches a radicalized verion of the Free-Will Doctrine as mentioned in the Puharich film segment. Take Ayn Rand and "Atlas Shrugged", and it's Free-Will. Then go back to Friedrich Nietzsche and his Free-Will. How far back does this/those Nine's messages go? In Graham Hancock's Coffee Table Book "Heaven's Mirror" he discussed the fact that the Heliopolitan Priesthood of ancient Egypt were NOT ethnically Egyptian, but were from elsewhere. That they simply called themselves "The Organization", and reported to a group of Dieties. They got what we would call channeled messages from them. Why the different messages, which would make them seem like 2 Nines? Well think back on the Gnostics, they gave spiritual messages to people of different spiritual understanding levels which could in one or more ways contradict each other! Why, because the Dieties did the same thing! Chris I don't think whatever this is, knows the darndest about the generalized spiritual sophistication of today! As far as "elite" people buying into this material, well I live in the City of Paris Hilton. Just because your rich and high in the Social Register, does not make one intelligent! It's like the messages come from some sort of computerized memory bank. Remember how Gene Roddenberry was obsessed with computers pretending to be dieties! As far as Obama and this Monkey Diety is concerned, and Dwali. It's as I said a few weeks ago, he's building an Indian Military Superpower to counter China in a near future nuclear war as Gene Roddenberry predicted. He's only couching it in exotic religion so the masses don't catch on!

The Hanuman/jaw/lip injury connection is interesting, Chris. Something I hadn't caught before. The first article I saw about it emphasized the new stitching technology that was being used so that "it wouldn't leave as visible a scar." Also, all the media reports keep mentioning it as an injury to his upper lip, however in a photo taken at the Howard-Oregon State basketball game which the First Family attended, his lower lip clearly appears to be injured.

Bad news, one of the only Hermetic libraries in the world, Bibliotheca Philosophica Hermetica, in Amsterdam is being closed, I thought you guy(s) would be a great source to spread the word and get this petition signed.

There is something more to the Obama presidency than the whole 'yes we can' thing. The religious aspect, if you can call it that, seems to take on a whole dimension, for example, they didn't go to church, they denounced their pastor, he's a muslim/atheist etc. Michelle wore a black widow spider dress...sorry I just read that on some other blog...but its the strangeness factor...Bush was never THIS strange...the whole otehr 9 idea...reminds me of the recent UK report out of the House of Lords where a shadowy other 'group' called Foundation X was going to bail out the world from financial catastrophy because they 'care'!

Totally agree with what you've said here'...the UFO topic is being mainstreamed like no other time in history. You can even feel the resolve of the professional media skeptics starting to waver. The more the media signals that this is a permissible topic of conversation, the more likely it becomes that very strange ideas like the Nine- or the Nine Unknown- will follow...unquote - ABSOLUTELY

Being half Indian myself, I wish I had some amazing insight to add to your interesting ideas - but I'm afraid right now I don't.

However, I think you've hit on something with these posts that's very important but on the edges of everyones perception right now. Whatever it is that we're looking at here, I think we're looking at it tangentially and out of focus. But there is 'truth' and meaningfulness in all this.

Of what nature though, that's the question. I don't have an answer, except to riff on an idea that seems implicit in magical literature - that evey person isn't just a person, but also a LOCATION, a psychic place where magical narratives are being created and played off one another.

Maybe Obama isn't just a person, but a private and public psychic space in which private and public forms of shamanism are being worked out, vying for power, mixing and clashing their symbols.

What do you reckon?

I'm sorry my comments are so imprecise and abstract, but I think you've mined a whole lotta sychro-alchemical gold with this post, beyond AAT and 'standard' synchromysticism. For sure.

One last thing. For some reason, reading this article made me think of Nemo, the Indian prince in the Nautilus, traversing the infinite sunken realm of the underworld/imagination. And Nemo is Omen backwards. Hmm, Captain Nobody...go figure.

Reminded me further still of the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, of course, and the mysterious Nagas of hindu myth, and the concept of hierarchy-caste as integral to the maintenance of the gnostic prison (or the Pythagoras Cage, as I sometimes call it).

A host of VERY disparate associations, I know.

Again, I came away from your post with this notion of each person as a location of competing and mutating magical ideologies, whether the person is aware of this psychic-spatial dimension or not.

What if we humans are the Colonists, intended to be a magical League - recolonising or reimagining the prison, tentatively feeling for any spaces that might lie beyond it? Hell, while I'm at it, what if the black oil of the X-mythos could be figured as INSIGHT, an insight suffused with knowledge of the underworld? Just hope and grist for the mill.

I like to think that research like yours, mixing intuition and genuine reason, is making the walls of this prison increasingly jelly-like, even if on the surface times appear darker than ever.

Apologies for my rambling. But this post left me feeling strangely jazzed, as if your speculations are foreshadowing something important, regardless of if it rears its head in our full comprehension or not.

coppens on "stargate conspiracy" and puharichhttp://www.philipcoppens.com/starcon.pdf

http://www.philipcoppens.com/starconundrum_0.html

Actually the Picknett and Prince book is very well argued and researched, and the bizarre leaps all have to do with the bizarre assertions of Puharich and his CIA crew. Their lead researcher- Phil Coppens still stands by their allegations that most of this AAT, council of Nine, is pure fabrication, and is mostly mind-control horseshit, with the search for new drugs. A new religion based on science, and the moon hoax is Moses parting the red sea. Just because it lends itself to endless entertainment (aliens make for good drama, big deal) means only that it is good entertainment, (which nowadays is mostly an exercise in mind control) and the entertainment industry is run by whom?

As for Obama and India- follow the money- google GMO's and India- or go to GM watch. We trade nuclear secrets for GMO access to their ag industry.

You know how eminem wanted an ass big enough for the whole world to kiss? Obama wants to kiss the whole worlds ass.

Here's another Andrija Puharich connection with strong media associations. Puharich had a friendship with Perry Mason creator, Earle Stanley Gardener. I remembered a conversation with my mother, who was interested in Psychic Phenomena. My mother remembered a radio news interview with Gardener from the early 1960's, and the fact that he was starting an organization dedicated to the use of psychic "powers" to solve crimes. Then he does one of his "Perry Mason" episodes with Dr. Andrija Puharich guest staring. The episode was called "The Case Of The Meddling Medium", and involved trances, automatic writing, etc. Perry is told about Puharich by his law clerk with a very esoteric name, David Gideon.

Also on Obama, we cannot forget the stories of Obama's obsession with Star Trek growing up. How much he knows about the predictions of Gene Roddenberry from his Academic Lecture Series, I have no idea. BUT he's sure acting like he's informed about them! Here's some added information from an insider! The inner circle around Gene had a belief that Egyptian Paganism was a de-evolved version of very ancient Hinduism. It reflected such in the storylines, especially on the Next Generation! The new Trek incarnation most likely to have influenced Obama!

Tara- That's right- Obama has a couple of Mary pendants in that photo as well.

Empty Hell- You're welcome. =)

Wotie- The Nines are something else- that's a great movie starring Green Lantern. Do a search up top for some synchery.

Cat- And cheers to you for the B5 download. Keep it coming.

SE- Yes, the whole Korea drama is adding quite a bit of tension to all of this. Plus the Wikileaks stuff. Interesting times, as the Chinese curse allegedly goes.

Carto- Yes, the Heliopolitans were Mesopotamian, the Shemsu Hor. That's what Flinders Petrie argued a hundred years ago and has been attacked for ever since. But I think comparing Paris Hilton with a polymath like Arthur Bell is a bit of a stretch. I wonder if Gene was aware of the vimanas and the ancient wars of the gods in the Mahabharata. Heavy stuff, given recent events.

Bufton- Yes, then why the story about the upper lip? Very weird. This stuff follows this guy around, doesn't it?

NAB- I saw that- folks, take a minute or two and sign the petition.

Angad- Cheers- I thought I linked to it in the piece but maybe I forgot.

Said- Yes- Foundation X. Has there been any link between them and the Templars? What's the latest on that?

Raj- Hey, ramble any time. You put a bit of poetry into the prose here. The India issue here is very important in a symbolic way, as well as all the depressing realpolitik stuff. I dig the Nemo mention as well, being the huge League of Extraordinary Gentleman fan that I am.

Mike- Yes, I recommend every read Mitch Horowitz's Occult America for that story. I think Wallace might have been played on that count by Roehrich and his bunch.

"Cauldron"- Yes, Bob, I linked to that ages ago as well though you seem to have skipped the opening paragraphs. Funny how there's all these anti-AAT bits on Coppens site and yet there he is in the flesh on Ancient Aliens, hitting all of the bases. Why do you think that is, Bob? If it's all CIA stuff like he says what does that say about him? I always get a kick out of your comments, though. It's like a walk down memory lane- all of a sudden it's 1995 and I'm browsing alt.conspiracy on America Online. Like the GMO ship that sailed 20 years ago and the Moon stuff you're so obsessed with. I'm a huge 90s nostalgist so keep it coming!

A couple of breadcrumbs confirming Gene's knowledge of Hinduism can be found firstly in the ST:TOS episode called the "Balance Of Terror", check Bridge Officer Lt. Rhada's Bindi (or spot over the third eye). Rhada in Hinduism is the childhood friend and lover of Lord Krishna! Second Gene insisted that Indian Actress Persis Khambatta got the role of Ilia. Gene cast her for the when this was Star Trek: Phase 2 for the proposed 70's incarnation of the Paramount Network. Gene required her to shave her head. Ilia, like Rhada was the consort of the movie's Lord Krishna, Captain Decker! Also Krishna is never worshiped alone without Rhada, just like Osirus and Isis in Egypt. Which may bring us back to AAT and the discussion of "Blue Savior Aliens". Remember also Decker and Ilia were transfigured into new creative, fertile energy, a symbolic rebirth for all by V'ger! Gene knew his Hinduism pretty well, V'ger=Vimana?!

We can't forget about Obama's Oslo speech from last year where he spoke under the mural with the blue Nordic / Hindu gods. Maybe this was a bit of foreshadowing.

Also, speaking of Rama, from what I understand, Rama was also a city where many of the vimanas traversed. I wonder if the 'Vimaanika Shastra' or "Science of Aeronautics" sanskrit fits into any of this.

Okay...The Dalai Lama has for some years been doing Kalachakra Initiations in various places around the world with the stated aim of 'world peace.'The Kalachakra Tantra was the last Tantra of the Highest Yoga Tantra class of Buddhist Tantras, written just before the wiping out of Buddhism in its native home of India by the invading Muslim armies.Kalachakra is the name of the main tantric deity in this particular tantric system. The name means 'Wheel of Time' and can also be translated as 'Wheel of Destruction.'

The Kalachakra Tantra is unique due to it containing a full system of astrology, as well as end of the world prophecies that describe how the King of Shambhala, Kalki, will lead an army out of the hidden Kingdom (said to be located somwhere North of the Himalayas) to make war on, and destroy the other religions and their prophets/messiahs, ushering in a Golden Age of Buddhism ruled by Kalki as the embodiment of the Adi Buddha (the Supreme Buddha).

The strange thing is that normally initiation into the Highest Yoga Tantras is only after what amounts to a minimum of one years full time meditation retreat practice (although this can be longer depending on tradition, and can be spread out over a greater period of time if done on a part time basis) of the tantric preliminary practices, and this only after a solid grounding in the exoteric Mahayana Buddhism and the permission of ones Guru/Lama. The Dalai Lama has said something about due to the degenerate times we live in, then it's okay to attend this initiation, even if you are of a different religion.

Those taking the initiation are creating the karma to be reborn in the time of Kalki as his footsoldiers, as much as the Tantric Master performing the initiation (in this case the Dalai Lama)takes on the role of the Kalki King during the ceremony. Those taking the initiation also form Samaya with the Master, which is to say accept him as their Guru.

The initiation includes the visualisation, by those taking it, of the Tantric Master in the form of Kalachakra and him consuming them, and then giving birth to them in the form of smaller versions of Kalachakra. This sort of imagery is unique to this Highest Yoga Tantra.

Anyways, there's plenty more interesting information available at the following sites -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalachakrahttp://kalachakranet.org/http://www.berzinarchives.com/web/x/nav/n.html_554862326.html - some excellent essays and texts on the subjecthttp://www.iivs.de/~iivs01311/SDLE/Contents.htm - 'The Shadow of the Dalai Lama' although clearly written by some axe-grinders, it does make for some interesting reading. Check out the contents pages to wet your whistle.

A huge unmanned rocket carrying a secret new spy satellite for the United States roared into space Sunday (Nov. 21) to deliver what one reconnaissance official has touted as “the largest satellite in the world” into orbit. “This mission helps to ensure that vital NRO resources will continue to bolster our national defense,” said Air Force Brig. Gen. Ed Wilson, commander 45th Space Wing, after the successful launch.

A United Launch Alliance Delta 4 Heavy launches with a National Reconnaissance Office payload NROL-32 from Space Launch Complex-37 at 5:58 p.m. ESTOf more interest to all was the secret payload. The Spaceflight Now website quoted the National Reconnaissance Office: “Always vigilant, the NRO’s eyes and ears give America’s policy markers, intelligence analysts, war fighters and homeland security specialists the critical information they need to keep America safe, secure and free.” In other words, it will be spying on you.

This satellite is believed by experts to be an electronic eavesdropping device with “a huge collecting antenna” according to the CBS report, and once on station is expected to “unfold a huge, lightweight antenna to tap into targeted military or civilian communications networks.” The satellite likely consists of sensitive radio receivers and an antenna generally believed to span up to 100 meters (328 feet) to gather electronic intelligence for the National Security Agency.

During this time of continued and increased government intrusion and surveillance on U.S. civilian life, liberty, and property, there naturally are questions about not only the NROL-32’s capabilities, but all the purposes to which they may be put to use.

The Illuminati Symbolism Surrounding the LaunchSo what kind of symbolism do you expect to see on the largest spy satellite ever launched? One that is designed to spy on civilian communications and further Orwellian government control on citizens? Illuminati symbolism, of course.

Official launch patch of the NROL-32 Mission. See how it seems to be “giving power” to the All-Seeing EyeOfficial Mission Insignia. Another variation on the theme of All-Seeing Eye on a pyramid.Official Mission Insignia. Another variation on the theme of All-Seeing Eye on a pyramid.

Just stumbled upon your blog now. Very interesting stuff! Another connection to the whole Tara/Hanuman vein; in China there is a famous novel called Journey to the West. The main character is Sun Wukong (aka The Monkey King). Hanuman is considered the inspiriation for this character. Also featured prominently in the book is the bodhisattva Kuan Yin (aka Tara!)...

The Chinese Monkey King and Hanuman (epic of Ramayana) are TOTALLY different from epic/myth/religious points of view! Even bodhisattya has no relation with Hanuman! Hope you know, that the epic of Ramayana was written few thousand BEFORE the concept of bodishattya or whatever.Plus, 1 billion people in this planet can have 1 billion types of thinking/notion. Whom can you believe, except yourself???

If you are interested to know about the "Scientific" view of Hinduism in a VERY SHORT time, then this blog is one of the bests...http://decodehindumythology.blogspot.in/p/chandravansham.htmlYou need to go thru most of the articles though ;-)

Hanuman is often seen as a symbol of finding our inner forgotten potency. In the Ramanaya, Hanuman forgets his own awesomeness until required to save Sita from Lanka. At that point, his devotion caused him to "remember" his inner awesomeness, jump across the sea and rescue Sita. I paraphrase.

I carry a Hanuman charm as a reminder to remember our innate agency and capacity to do, in the spirit of devotion.

Nostradamus in his codes predicts 92 Years of peace between the Second World War and the third world war. Hence we arrive at the Year 2037 which ushers in catastrophic changes. The comet ( Jan 2037) and asteroid ( June 2040) according to the Book of Revelations would destroy one third of the land and one third of the sea respectively submerging countries like Britain, Japan, South Africa, Singapore, parts of USA ( San Francisco) and ancient civilizations. After the 3 1/2 Years of peace war will breakout in 2041. India will be occupied by China. China and Russia will annex and occupy USA. Europe will be devastated by the Islamic invaders lead by the Mahdi of Greater Arabia who sports a blue turban launching nuclear weapons on it. The war would see 200 million soldiers kill 3 billion people. Read www.war2037.com for Hindu prophecies which mentions Kalki (Sree Veerabhoga Vasantharaya born in 1965-66 ) will restore law and order and usher in 1000 Years of peace from 2064 onwards.

!! Jai Shree Ram !! Really, this blog so good and i want to thanks to share all the document with us because every person who know about Hanuman jee then definitely he free all problem relevant to super natural and get all the things. If you want to free problem then worship with hanuman chalisa.

!! Jai Shree Ram !! Really, this blog so good and i want to thanks to share all the document with us because every person who know about Hanuman jee then definitely he free all problem relevant to super natural and get all the things. If you want to free problem then worship with hanuman chalisa.

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