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Also if you are running AIS scripts on the router to be upgraded they should be de-installed before the upgrading or the upgraded routing engine will reboot but not charge the cofiguration file of the router. In system where you have a master and backup routing engine to resolve the issue you just need to force a sync of the configuration from the master. I havent tried to see what happens if you only have one routing engine .

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Your welcome ByTeWrangler,
We have a long week ahead of us here. just a quick note the AIS issue i confirmed on a T1600 and a T640. It may not be an issue on other platforms. Still if you reload and the routing engine is amnesic (only able to log in with the root/no password) then that is probably the problem.

\"America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between.\"
\"The reason we are so pleased to find other people\'s secrets is that it distracts public attention from our own.\"
Oscar Wilde(1854-1900)