"as [you've] informed us that respect chills love, it is natural to conclude that all your pretty flights arise from your pampered sensibility; and that, vain of this fancied preeminence of organs, you foster every emotion till the fumes, mounting to your brain, dispel the sober suggestions of reason. It is not in this view surprising that when you should argue you become impassioned, and that reflection inflames your imagination instead of enlightening your understanding." - Mary Wollstonecraft

"as [you've] informed us that respect chills love, it is natural to conclude that all your pretty flights arise from your pampered sensibility; and that, vain of this fancied preeminence of organs, you foster every emotion till the fumes, mounting to your brain, dispel the sober suggestions of reason. It is not in this view surprising that when you should argue you become impassioned, and that reflection inflames your imagination instead of enlightening your understanding." - Mary Wollstonecraft

Fwiw, it didn't offend me, and I didn't think it "obscene," I was mostly joking around

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"as [you've] informed us that respect chills love, it is natural to conclude that all your pretty flights arise from your pampered sensibility; and that, vain of this fancied preeminence of organs, you foster every emotion till the fumes, mounting to your brain, dispel the sober suggestions of reason. It is not in this view surprising that when you should argue you become impassioned, and that reflection inflames your imagination instead of enlightening your understanding." - Mary Wollstonecraft

I've seen worse, much worse. Some people on the Net have a sick sense of humor and think everyone else should share it. A couple of months ago, a friend of mine got spammed with all sorts of perverted pictures because of something he posted on a message board. It's ridiculous.

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Author of "Tojet" (fantasy) and "The Lighthouse" (Gothic), info available at my website URL.

I remember the band Blindfaith...combination of Cream & Traffic, I think...maybe

Completely unrelated, but your avatar makes me think of the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam"...I resolve daily that at dusk I shall repentFor a night with a cup full of wine spent.In the presence of flowers, my resolve simply wentIn such company, I only regret that I ever resolved to repent...."

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If you're living a happy life as a Christian, you're doing something wrong.

Of course not! I watched one NFL playoff game in the mid 80's that went to a second overtime because of that rule. Very long game, since NFL overtime is no Kansas Plan.

Here is the aforementioned game:

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The New York Jets were largely in control of this game, and after a Freeman McNeil 25 yard touchdown, giving the Jets a 20-10 lead with 4:14 left in the game, the "Dog pound" in Cleveland Stadium became a dour place. In a January 2, 1987 article, the New York Times identified Mark Gastineau as "the Jet who must make the big play on defense." On the Browns next drive, Gastineau did made the big play - a roughing the passer penalty on 3 and 24; a costly penalty, giving the Browns a valuable first down. Browns Quarterback Bernie Kosar turned that opportunity into a 68-yard scoring drive. The Jets went three-and-out in their next possession, setting up a final drive for the Browns. With seven seconds left in regulation, a 37-yard pass play from Kosar to Receiver Webster Slaughter set up the game tying field goal by Mark Moseley. After the Jets punted on their first overtime possession, the Browns drove to the Jets' 5 yard line, where despite the apparent sure victory, Moseley missed a 23-yarder wide right. After a series of punts shared between the teams, Kosar again led the Browns on a 60-yard drive, ending the game two minutes, two seconds into the second overtime on a 27-yard field goal. In that game, Kosar set post season records for completions, attempts, and passing yards.

Besides the 2008 Baltimore Ravens, has a team ever lost in the same year to teams quarterbacked by brothers? So, a team would have to lose to the Indianapolis Colts (QB'ed by Peyton Manning) and the New York Giants (QB'ed by Eli Manning) in the same year?

Of course not! I watched one NFL playoff game in the mid 80's that went to a second overtime because of that rule. Very long game, since NFL overtime is no Kansas Plan.

Here is the aforementioned game:

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The New York Jets were largely in control of this game, and after a Freeman McNeil 25 yard touchdown, giving the Jets a 20-10 lead with 4:14 left in the game, the "Dog pound" in Cleveland Stadium became a dour place. In a January 2, 1987 article, the New York Times identified Mark Gastineau as "the Jet who must make the big play on defense." On the Browns next drive, Gastineau did made the big play - a roughing the passer penalty on 3 and 24; a costly penalty, giving the Browns a valuable first down. Browns Quarterback Bernie Kosar turned that opportunity into a 68-yard scoring drive. The Jets went three-and-out in their next possession, setting up a final drive for the Browns. With seven seconds left in regulation, a 37-yard pass play from Kosar to Receiver Webster Slaughter set up the game tying field goal by Mark Moseley. After the Jets punted on their first overtime possession, the Browns drove to the Jets' 5 yard line, where despite the apparent sure victory, Moseley missed a 23-yarder wide right. After a series of punts shared between the teams, Kosar again led the Browns on a 60-yard drive, ending the game two minutes, two seconds into the second overtime on a 27-yard field goal. In that game, Kosar set post season records for completions, attempts, and passing yards.

Besides the 2008 Baltimore Ravens, has a team ever lost in the same year to teams quarterbacked by brothers? So, a team would have to lose to the Indianapolis Colts (QB'ed by Peyton Manning) and the New York Giants (QB'ed by Eli Manning) in the same year?

When was the last time a pair of brothers QB'ed different NFL teams at the same time?

I find it interesting that the Giants ran the ball down the throats (200+ yards rushing) of the best rush defense in the NFL.

"Only six other pairs of brothers have played quarterback in the league since it formed in the 1920s, and none of those duos have even come close to matching the Detmers' combined longevity. Ty broke into the league with Green Bay in 1992 after a Heisman Trophy-winning career at BYU, and Koy joined him in Philadelphia five years later after starring at Colorado."

I find it interesting that the Giants ran the ball down the throats (200+ yards rushing) of the best rush defense in the NFL.

Ravens don't talk as much trash under their new coach and the Giants took exception to the trash coming out of Ray Lewis' mouth. He's past his prime and the Ravens paid the price. In consolation, the Ravens have gone 29 games without giving up a 100 yard rusher.

But each of the contestants in the overtime period has the same opportunity to score without the other trying to keep him FROM scoring. Your golf example is actually more like the example of using extra innings to decide a baseball game--each team has the same opportunity to score (albeit, against an opponent hellbent on keeping them from scoring).

A golfer and a relief pitcher face the same stress in extra inning situations.

With football, both teams physically beat each other up for 60 minutes. If they've reached a tie and have to play overtime, the team that doesn't get the ball failed in preventing the other team from scoring. Why do they need to be rewarded with one more chance?

In college, ties were more common before the OT rule was implemented. OT was implemented more for the BCS than anything else and College is supposedly a fairer environment than the cutthroat NFL.

With football, both teams physically beat each other up for 60 minutes. If they've reached a tie and have to play overtime, the team that doesn't get the ball failed in preventing the other team from scoring. Why do they need to be rewarded with one more chance?

That's the problem. They didn't get an equitable chance to begin with, so how can you reward them with one more of what they never had: possession of the ball with the chance to score?

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In college, ties were more common before the OT rule was implemented.

Of course ties were more common before OT. After OT was implemented, teams would play as many OT's as were needed to finally crown a winner, thus rendering ties virtually impossible. I think the NCAA Div. I-A record for most overtimes is seven (Arkansas 58, Ole Miss 56 (14-14 after regulation), on 11/03/2001; and Arkansas 71, Kentucky 63 (24-24 after regulation) on 11/01/2003; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overtime_(sports)#North_American_sports).

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OT was implemented more for the BCS than anything else

Then how do you explain NCAA Division II & III games going to overtime, as well? They actually use playoffs to determine their national champs.

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and College is supposedly a fairer environment than the cutthroat NFL.