talk about a fucking echo chamber. You refuse to acknowledge his points and then just claim his biased. Worthy of fox news.

A did address his points, learn to read before you reply please. He keeps insisting that they are facts, even though they include things like "lore took a nose dive". You are talking about a STORY for f's sake, how can you claim that the "story got worse" is a FACT? This kind of thing can only ever be an opinion, the only fact is they changed some lore. Whether it's good or bad is NOTHING BUT AN OPINION.

Also he mentioned that a lot of people agree with him, so it must be true. Seriously, he quoted discussion length at official forums as a proof that his opinion is a fact. How can I have any kind of serious argument against such laughable BS?

One thing I really fail to understand is WHY ON EARTH people who love D2 so much wouldn't just keep playing D2? Why waste so much energy trying to ruin what other people enjoy, when you already HAVE a game that you love? It's not like WoW, where new patch or expansion actually changes things forever for everyone. I mean, the old game is still there and still playable. Hell, even I play it time to time.

Instead they go out of their way being angry and miserable, trying to convince people who are having fun to stop having fun. What the hell is wrong with you?

So I read pet's damage doesn't reflect back to the player, but how does this solve the real issue behind reflect? My own abilities can one-shot me and there's no window of opportunity because it appears the reflect is always up on the monsters, am I missing something here? Is there a way to avoid killing yourself or do I just leave the pack alone?

Monsters with this affix will now pulse a damage reflection shield on and off. While the shield is down, the monster does not reflect damage. When the reflect shield is on, the monster will Reflect Damage the way it does now on live. The shield has a strong visual associated with it so you’ll know it is reflecting. (We’ve also made it so that pet damage is no longer reflected back to the player.)

A did address his points, learn to read before you reply please. He keeps insisting that they are facts, even though they include things like "lore took a nose dive". You are talking about a STORY for f's sake, how can you claim that the "story got worse" is a FACT? This kind of thing can only ever be an opinion, the only fact is they changed some lore. Whether it's good or bad is NOTHING BUT AN OPINION.

Also he mentioned that a lot of people agree with him, so it must be true. Seriously, he quoted discussion length at official forums as a proof that his opinion is a fact. How can I have any kind of serious argument against such laughable BS?

Actually you CAN make that case with storytelling and art in general. Are you going to also tell me that Shakespear is on par with cheap harlequin romance novels? A 6 year olds finger painting to a monet? The disparity between story telling in diablo 2 and diablo 3 is equally as immense. Christ it's shit. I cannot express that enough and while it may be OPINION it is informed opinion and correct opinion.

Actually you CAN make that case with storytelling and art in general. Are you going to also tell me that Shakespear is on par with cheap harlequin romance novels? A 6 year olds finger painting to a monet? The disparity between story telling in diablo 2 and diablo 3 is equally as immense. Christ it's shit. I cannot express that enough and while it may be OPINION it is informed opinion and correct opinion.

His past post's have proved it. But lets flip the scrip you prove the story is not shit and not a real basic overdone story type. also prove it did not ignore the lore form D1/D2+LOD. By the way telling the past story in the install screen dose not count that's just a recap.

His past post's have proved it. But lets flip the scrip you prove the story is not shit and not a real basic overdone story type. also prove it did not ignore the lore form D1/D2+LOD. By the way telling the past story in the install screen dose not count that's just a recap.

The story was shit cause its the same type of story that has been done over and over. Bad guy returns takes magic items becomes legion.....Fuck the story was the same as the first ghost rider movie to prove my point.

Only difference is one is a game and other is a movie and in Ghost Rider the chick lives.

Its the same basic story type and it was shitty as hell. Come on if I can compare it to Ghost Rider "decent movie" It proves my point.

also it was The Fiend who said the quote i was looking for not tony once I find it ill update. but my point is proven without it.

Edit Update: Quote from The Fiend

Destroys the lore
An Angel throwing off his wings becomes human, nuff said, especially considering the wings are the REAL PART OF THE ANGEL WHILE THE ARMOR IS A PUPPET. Also Diablo being the smartest all of a sudden and the other Lords of destruction basically being made into stupid lackeys.

The story was shit cause its the same type of story that has been done over and over. Bad guy returns takes magic items becomes legion.....Fuck the story was the same as the first ghost rider movie to prove my point.

Only difference is one is a game and other is a movie and in Ghost Rider the chick lives.

Its the same basic story type and it was shitty as hell. Come on if I can compare it to Ghost Rider "decent movie" It proves my point.

also it was The Fiend who said the quote i was looking for not tony once I find it ill update. but my point is proven without it.

You know most movies/story are redone right? it's a real common thing in fact. If that is your complaint on what makes it bad it's not a very good one.

Edit Update: Quote from The Fiend

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Originally Posted by namelessone

He doesn't become "human", he simply becomes mortal. That looks human. He obviously still has superhuman powers.
Also, maybe you should stop implying that everyone who disagrees with your OPINION has "clearly never played D2", it sorta proves my entire point.