Palestinians run from tear gas shot by the Israeli army during a solidarity protest with the hunger striking Palestinian prisoners jailed in Israeli prisons, outside the Ofer military prison, February 15, 2013. (Photo by: Oren Ziv/ Activestills.org)

Palestinian children hold posters during a demonstration in support of Samer Issawi, a Palestinian prisoner who has been on hunger strike for more than 200 days in an Israeli prison, in the Palestinian East Jerusalem neighborhood of Issawiya on February 15, 2013. (Photo by: Guest photographer T.M/ Activestills.org)

The shadows of members of a theater group of Sudanese refugees from the Darfur region are seen on a white sheet as they perform at a cultural centre in south Tel Aviv, February 15, 2013. Hundreds of Sudanese refugees took part in the cultural festival to share with local Israeli audience samples of their cultural heritage. (Photo by: Shiraz Grinbaum/Activestills.org)

Palestinians with disabilities held a protest in front of the International Committee of of Red Cross to support Palestinian prisoners, February 14, 2013. (Photo by: Anne Paq/Activestills.org)

Residents of Beit Safafa stand on their lands while bulldozers construct a four lane highway through their village, February 14, 2013. The road is being constructed on privately owned land which was designated for building houses for the local residents of the densely populated town, and is being built despite their objections. The road will connect the various Jewish settlements in the Hebron area to Jerusalem and is part of an ongoing campaign to isolate and surround the Palestinian neighborhoods of Jerusalem with Jewish settlements. (Photo by: Oren Ziv/ Activestills.org)

A Palestinian girl takes cover while Israeli army invades her village during the weekly demonstration against the occupation in the West Bank village of Nabi Saleh, February 15, 2013. (Photo by: Keren Manor/Activestills.org)

An Israeli settler argues with Palestinian activists blocking the entrance to Efrat settlement in a protest in solidarity with hunger striker Samer Issawi, February 15, 2013. Issawi has been on hunger strike for more than 200 days to protest his administrative detention without charge by Israeli authorities. (Photo by: Ryan Rodrick Beiler/Activestills.org)

Activists show solidarity with Samer Issawi, on hunger strike for 203 days and who is being held in an Israeli medical detention center in critical condition, Jaffa, February 13, 2013. (Photo by: Shiraz Grinbaum/Activestills.org)

Activists protest outside the Max Brenner restaurant and chocolate shop in Downtown Boston, MA, on February 14, 2013. Organizers say the goals of the action are to raise awareness of the popular restaurant’s ties to Israel’s human rights violations in Palestine and encourage a boycott of their products. (Photo: Tess Scheflan/ Activestills.org)

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Your remark goes to the heart of fortress conservatism. He is pre-defined and not ALLOWED to change. Nor is there any respect for what his endurance has cost him; nor any possibility that the very outpouring of support for him might alter him. You say: “do not think, accept what I see, for only I know protection.”

You may be right; you may be wrong. But there is not opening to the possibility of being wrong. In this logic, only absolute submission by the other is permissible; peace cannot so be formed.

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Oscar

FridayFebruary 22, 2013

“And I wish Israel nothing but frustration and failure”

Ditto for you for the remainder of your convoluted warped miserable of life.

You went personal. The full quote of Danny’s is “I wish Israel nothing but frustration and failure in their vain attempts to break Palestinian non-violent resistance.”

This is not a global wish against Israel; indeed, for those who think non-violence useful, it is a positive hope, although I don’t expect you to buy that. You wished Danny a “miserable of life” (sic). Is that what difference of opinion means–the personal destruction of others of other view?

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Arieh

SaturdayFebruary 23, 2013

“And I wish Israel nothing but frustration and failure in their vain attempts to break Palestinian non-violent resistance.”

What would be wrong with peace negotiations without preconditions instead?

Non violent resistance? It would not have been necessary had the Palestinians accepted comprehensive peace deals made by two Israeli prime ministers in 2001 and in 2008. But they did not accept those deals because they did not include the so called right of return. And no Israeli offer will ever include that even if the Palestinians carry out non violent resistance for the next 200 years. How is that Danny?

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Zephon

SundayFebruary 24, 2013

You are such an insult to intelligence. I mean that entire POV you have is nothing but regurgitated nonsense that is not only outdated by about 15 years – but it’s already been disproved officially by Israeli Historians.

I never thought Jewish thought could be so easily susceptive to baseless indoctrination.

It breaks the heart.

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Tzutzik

SundayFebruary 24, 2013

Zephon
Did you know that Bill Clinton blamed Arafat for missing an opportunity to make peace?

Ditto for Condi Rice. She stated in her memoirs that she was surprised that Abbas did not say yes to the peace deal that he was offered in 2008.

Are you going to ignore that?
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Tzutzik

SundayFebruary 24, 2013

Zephon
You are short on facts but long on insults.

Try harder.

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Zephon

SundayFebruary 24, 2013

Try harder with what? Insults? I’ll leave that to you imbeciles. You’ve been trained for the trade of insulting humanity. But your lot have been doing it for so long that it’s become farcical and boring – absolutely BORING. I’d trust a monkey at this point to come up with more interesting arguments. You guys are literally playing on constant loop using regurgitated crap that it really is embarrassing at this point – specifically if you’re Jewish and reading it all-the-time!

Enough already.

Short on facts… That is Bush level intelligence you’re constructing: Facts aren’t facts unless they are YOUR facts. Correct?

Wanker… so embarrassing that I have to share this planet much less Judaism with you people. Just more guilt that I really don’t need.

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Tzutzik

SundayFebruary 24, 2013

“Wanker… so embarrassing that I have to share this planet much less Judaism with you people. Just more guilt that I really don’t need.”

Did you say GUILT, Zephon?

Sounds like you are trying to portray a Holywood cartoon of Jews. You know what? It is my turn to call YOU an idiot. Idiot!

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Zephon

SundayFebruary 24, 2013

That depends on what your definition of insulting is – see what I did there?

Rice? Really? You want to quote Condi Rice? The same woman who thought “Bin laden determined to attack inside the United States” was not a specific enough of a title to warrant attention?

The same woman who was infatuated with George W. Bush? The same woman who called Tony Blair the greatest PM in British History???

You’re making me laugh! You’re stuck in Bush era! We’re in 2013 and the train has left you clearly behind.

Abbas? Read the Palestinian Papers.

Times of Israel – I rest my case. You’re incapable of asserting anything much less researching on your own. The fact that you take POLITICIANS at their word speaks plainly enough of your imbecility.

Thanks for the laughs.

As for the Hollywood comment I’m not going to even dignify that asinine statement with an insult.

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Tzutzik

MondayFebruary 25, 2013

“That depends on what your definition of insulting is – see what I did there?”

Where? Moron?

“Rice? Really? You want to quote Condi Rice? The same woman who thought “Bin laden determined to attack inside the United States” was not a specific enough of a title to warrant attention?”

Oooh that’s your logic? She said something you didn’t like so she also tells lies?

“The same woman who was infatuated with George W. Bush? The same woman who called Tony Blair the greatest PM in British History???”

Oohhh you are a regular genius aren’t you Zephon? The woman respects someone you hate therefore she tells lies?

“You’re making me laugh!”

And? Hyenas laugh too. So what?

“You’re stuck in Bush era! We’re in 2013 and the train has left you clearly behind.”

Ohhh what profound wisdom you have. I was saying that the Palestinians could have ended this conflict in the Bush era but that would have left a non Arab non Muslim state in the Middle East. To them that meant defeat because they only want Arab Muslim rule in the Middle East. They are supremacists. You don’t consider that relevant? Ok, that says a lot about your intellect, or lack of it.

“Abbas? Read the Palestinian Papers.”

You mean the ones Abbas denied? The ones he was so angry about that he threatened Al Jazeera? Do you think they mean anything under the circumstances? Don’t answer that, you will only make a fool of yourself.

“Times of Israel – I rest my case. You’re incapable of asserting anything much less researching on your own.”

Are you suggesting that they made up that news item which was aired publicly in Egypt on a specific date? It is fully verifiable. And I would take the trouble to find other sources too. But you are not worth it. You are too far gone. Mentally that is.

“The fact that you take POLITICIANS at their word speaks plainly enough of your imbecility.”

Ahhhhh ok, I understand you. If Abbas says something that makes a liar out of you then I should just ignore it. Well I won’t I’ll leave it to fools like you to put your heads in the sand.

“Thanks for the laughs.”

Don’t bother thanking me. It was easy. I bet you laugh at your own mother for giving you birth.

“As for the Hollywood comment I’m not going to even dignify that asinine statement with an insult.”

It wasn’t an insult. It was an observation of your mentality. But if you want, feel free to be insulted. I don’t mind.

Meanwhile you ignored what Clinton said about Arafat who also could have brought peace to the Middle East but didn’t want to for the same reason that Abbas does not want to.
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I know, Clinton too does not qualify as a reliable source in your eyes. Why? Because he does not Parrot the type of narrative that you want to hear.

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Tzutzik

TuesdayFebruary 26, 2013

What case are you resting? The fact that I adopted your own language to talk to you?

It seems to have worked. It shut you up.

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Tzutzik

SundayFebruary 24, 2013

“Try harder with what? Insults? I’ll leave that to you imbeciles.”

LMFAO, you are full of it Zephon. Read your own posts. All you do is insult and assert. Facts? None …

“Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas clarified in an Egyptian TV interview that he had not intended to undermine the traditional Palestinian demand for a “right of return” for millions of Palestinians to Israel, when he made seemingly moderate comments on the subject in an Israeli TV interview last Thursday.”

That is why he did not say yes to Olmert’s 2008 peace offer (which contrary to your assertion, wasn’t 15 years ago).

Ok, I am ready for more of your assertions and insults Zephon. But believe me, coming from the likes of you, it is like water off a duck’s back. Try harder …

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Tzutzik

SundayFebruary 24, 2013

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And here are some more facts for you Zephon, not “my” made up facts. Unless you accusing the BBC of making up pro Israel facts?

“In the last line, Mr Clinton refers to “the failure of my life.” It is a sad conclusion but one supported by his account of what he told Mr Arafat.

“He just cannot believe that the Palestinian leader turned down the offer of a state in almost all the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem. He calls this refusal ” a colossal mistake”.

“Right before I left office, Arafat thanked me for all my efforts and told me what a great man I was. ‘Mr Chairman,’ I replied, ‘I am not a great man. I am a failure, and you have made me a failure.'”

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Tzutzik

SundayFebruary 24, 2013

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Here is what Condi Rice wrote in her memoirs about Olmer’s peace offer in 2008:

“http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/11/01/174779.html

“Rice recalled: “Am I really hearing this? I wondered. Is the Israeli prime minister saying that he’ll divide Jerusalem and put an international body in charge of the holy sites.”

She then said Israel wanted U.S. help in obtaining a list of security demands, aspects of which he knew the Palestinians might have trouble accepting.

Rice promised to present the proposals the next day to Abbas.

She said Abbas immediately started negotiating, saying he could not accept the return of only 5,000 of some four million Palestinians refugees. However, Rice arranged a meeting between Abbas and Olmert.”

Abbas just could not bring himself to say yes to the offer. And now, no Israeli prime minister will ever repeat that offer.

You should be crying Zephon. Crying for the missed opportunities instead of being in denial and throwing temper tantrums at us for telling you about very recent history.

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Tzutzik

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