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Topic: Cunnilingus (Read 1938 times)

Hi , like many people who ask questions on your forum I have done something stupid & out of character while engaging in a night if drinking.I had some contact with a stripper the details of which are ;I put my tongue on her clitoris for a couple of minutes , I didn't actually suck her pussy at her vagina but I flicked her clit with my tongue for a few minutes.I briefly rimmed her putting my tongue up her anus.I fingered both her pussy and her anus.I am now concerned regarding possible risk if HIV infection, I understand in past threads you have stated cunnilingus & analingus has zero risk however I believe after reading this article (http://www.poz.com/articles/348_2127.shtml) that there are in fact now two documented cases of HIV infection from cunnilingus , the CDC also quotes these two cases in there assertion that HIV can be contracted from cunnilingus.I would like to know what my risk is & whether I should seek pep given this was two days ago ?Thank you for your time .

Hi , like many people who ask questions on your forum I have done something stupid & out of character while engaging in a night if drinking.I had some contact with a stripper the details of which are ;I put my tongue on her clitoris for a couple of minutes , I didn't actually suck her pussy at her vagina but I flicked her clit with my tongue for a few minutes.I briefly rimmed her putting my tongue up her anus.I fingered both her pussy and her anus.I am now concerned regarding possible risk if HIV infection, I understand in past threads you have stated cunnilingus & analingus has zero risk however I believe after reading this article (http://www.poz.com/articles/348_2127.shtml) that there are in fact now two documented cases of HIV infection from cunnilingus , the CDC also quotes these two cases in there assertion that HIV can be contracted from cunnilingus.I would like to know what my risk is & whether I should seek pep given this was two days ago ?Thank you for your time .

Sadly, even the CDC gets things wrong.

One is kissing. HIV cannot be spread throgh french kissing. It's never been documented, and with over thirty years' worth of research into the pandemic, you would think it would revise it's risk assessment.

The other is cunnilingus.

Sadly, I have no one to tske to task at POZ.COM for this misstep in risk assessment. AIDSMEDS and POZ.COM merged about a year ago, and whomever created POZ's transmission lessons (which are different from ours, you might note) is long gone from the company.

Thing is, these "incidents" relied upon patient report after the fact, which has been shown again and again to be unreliable. Moreover, the chemical science which accurately describes the mechanism of HIV transmission does not in any way support the allegations of infection through cunnilingus.

The fluid you encounter through oral sex with a female comes from the Bartholen Glands, lubricating glands positioned near the front of the vagina. These fluids do NOT contain HIV in any onfectious form. They are closer to tears or sweat, actually. The fluids in female genitalia that ARE infectious are located deep within the cervical mucosa, in a thick semi-fluid that is ONLY encountered through the thrusting of an erect penis. A finger, a tongue (even Gene Simmons' tongue) cannot reach this area.

Safer sex counselors around the world have long ago abandoned the notion of dental dams for HIV prevention. It's a complete waste of money, and there is no benefit as these two "documented" cases fell apart as soon as relatively formulaic forensic research as applied to them. In once case, the couple on question shared IV drug needles. In another case, the positive partners had shared heterosexual encounters with a positive male.

You are not going to get HIV from cunnilingus. And were POZ.COM not suffering for staff and finances, I would hold it accountable on a far greater level for the disservice that this outdated and innaccurate web site continues, inexplicably, to contain.

Rest assured, I do what I can from here to create a science-based risk assessment forum. And I welcome the "intrusion" of higher powers to debate our assertions here.

Sadly, when I appeal to higher powers, I get crickets in return.

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"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."