for a bunch of politically correct brigade no marks getting upset at someone joking when a stage collapses, you're all pretty eager to spend a whole thread discussing whether Kate Nash is much fittah when she is one weight or the other FWIW

I was just waiting to be served at a kebab shop in Chalk farm, when I looked over and saw Kate Nash (it was before she was really well known). She saw that I recognised her. When she walked past, I said: Excuse me....are you Kate Nash?

And the vocals in the beginning. It sounds quite a bit like a rougher Warpaint at that point, with the creepy close harmonies and dark bass. The vocals after that though ... why? It so clearly sounds bad, who would you put that to tape?

Pretty disappointed too given that i really do like her earlier attempts at punky stuff

It's not any less terrible than Slint or Sonic Youth or any of that shite, but still terrible. Maybe she's, y'know, finally making the music she wants to and not worrying about chart positions and upsetting the label etc. etc. but it makes my ears a bit sad listening to this and then Foundations back to back.

On a side note I used to fancy Kate Nash more than just about anyone in the world, ever since I saw her at Dot To Dot in Bristol about a month before Foundations came out. She's looking a bit worse for wear these days but that's probably part and parcel of not being part of a radio-friendly unit-shifting corporate mechanism anymore and so forth.

her last album got to number 8 in the charts (despite total disappearance of this kind of 'indie' in the mainstream), she's still signed to a major label who are still going to utilise her strong visual image in the marketing for her already recorded new album which will no doubt feature many songs designed for radio play (just like Doo-Wah-Doo off the last album was clearly chopped down to having one verse, presumably entirely for commercial reasons).

This recording a song in 24 hours thing will have happened with the blessing of Fiction at the very LEAST, and has most probably been planned out for ages.

Female musician launches admirable and pro-active campaign to encourage more women to play music and give them practical advice on how to do it. Internet message board users ignore it and make catty comments about her looks.

but the stick she's getting for this is mad. She's been 'trending' on Twitter all day, not just on DiS. It's a pretty fair artistic change - she's been chatting about Riot Grrl for years, good on her for pursuing it when she could've just spunked out another pop record and sold plenty of records. I can't remember, for example, Plan B getting this much flak for what has to be the biggest, most cynical change of direction of recent history. At least Kate Nash is giving up chart baiting to do something she prefers, rather than the other way around.

it's really the video that is the problem - all that looking in the camera and giving hand gestures was part of the music she USED to make so to drag those moves into the riot grrl/grungey thing she's doing now doesn't work AT ALL

The first one was a bit too new-Lily-Allen for me and never really sat right, as much as I love the twee pop singles there's not much more to it than that. The second album sounded like she was actually enjoying herself more, playing music she gave a shit about. It was just a stronger, more fully formed album

But, if anything, this song has reminded me that I actually really liked her second record. So I've just relistened and yes, I still think it's a good confident record where she is obviously enjoying herself, and it shows. Not the sort of thing I'd normally like either.

"It’s weird to me because I guess it’s like when you haven’t seen someone for years and they’re like ‘WOAHHH you look so different’ and you’ve seen yourself in the mirror everyday so you don’t notice changes." The Abyss hath gazed back.