He did mentioned that it was a reference device given to developers. Perhaps its like BB10 Dev Alpha, when it was first handed out its OS was basically a scaled down version of the PlayBook, which, is dated and boring too. Perhaps Samsung was simply trying to keep the element of surprise for the OS and simply did a basic UI just for app testing purposes. I wouldn't count on the final OS looking like that.

He did mentioned that it was a reference device given to developers. Perhaps its like BB10 Dev Alpha, when it was first handed out its OS was basically a scaled down version of the PlayBook, which, is dated and boring too. Perhaps Samsung was simply trying to keep the element of surprise for the OS and simply did a basic UI just for app testing purposes. I wouldn't count on the final OS looking like that.

Exactly. We went through the same thing with BB10. Ultimately it will only matter when it's actually released to the public.

Tizen is specifically built with zero elements that are potentially copyrighted. It also can run Android apps with no issues. Add in that the steering group (and the sponsors) consist of Samsung and Intel and I think the intention is pretty clear.

Samsung launches a few Tizen phones to gain experience and make sure everything works. Once they are sure they put TouchWiz on it and ditch Android. That way they no longer get sued, no longer have to pay license fees and also are no longer beholden to Google. They'll just open their own app store and make it super easy to put Android apps in it.

Tizen is specifically built with zero elements that are potentially copyrighted. It also can run Android apps with no issues. Add in that the steering group (and the sponsors) consist of Samsung and Intel and I think the intention is pretty clear.

Samsung launches a few Tizen phones to gain experience and make sure everything works. Once they are sure they put TouchWiz on it and ditch Android. That way they no longer get sued, no longer have to pay license fees and also are no longer beholden to Google. They'll just open their own app store and make it super easy to put Android apps in it.

Yea I think that's their ultimate plan too. It will be a few years, but eventually they plan to use their standing as the biggest phone company in the world to push Tizen & get out from under Google's thumb. They will also have more control over the OS on their phones, & they will no longer have to pay big licensing fees to M$ for using the "free" android.

Yea I think that's their ultimate plan too. It will be a few years, but eventually they plan to use their standing as the biggest phone company in the world to push Tizen & get out from under Google's thumb. They will also have more control over the OS on their phones, & they will no longer have to pay big licensing fees to M$ for using the "free" android.

Tizen is specifically built with zero elements that are potentially copyrighted. It also can run Android apps with no issues. Add in that the steering group (and the sponsors) consist of Samsung and Intel and I think the intention is pretty clear.

Samsung launches a few Tizen phones to gain experience and make sure everything works. Once they are sure they put TouchWiz on it and ditch Android. That way they no longer get sued, no longer have to pay license fees and also are no longer beholden to Google. They'll just open their own app store and make it super easy to put Android apps in it.

Originally Posted by BBPandy

Yea I think that's their ultimate plan too. It will be a few years, but eventually they plan to use their standing as the biggest phone company in the world to push Tizen & get out from under Google's thumb. They will also have more control over the OS on their phones, & they will no longer have to pay big licensing fees to M$ for using the "free" android.

Originally Posted by Joelist

Bingo.

Google should be worried - VERY worried - about this.

They are, there's a ton of recent articles about Google's CEO discussing this issue specifically. They kinda let the cat out of the bag that their early statements about only buying Motorola for patents was just a smokescreen. They very much plan this year to make the Google Phone presence even stronger starting with the Motorola X which is more than likely going to end up renamed the Google X for official launch or at least have Google branding on it. Personally I think Samsung is making a BIG strategic error here. They're overestimating how many people will follow them because it's a "Samsung phone" rather than an android phone. Some will go, but I predict the feedback on media sources will be negative for Tizen and positive for Android, which is going to influence device reviews that are reaching the potential buyers reading them. Microsoft and RIM are both struggling mightily for their pieces of the mobile pie already with their own built in userbases, Samsung should take note (no pun intended).

Sorry but your assumptions fly in the face of everything marketing surveys say about the smartphone buying public. For the most part they don't care what the OS is - all they care about is the hardware and if it has their favorite apps. Samsung is far and away the #1 smartphone OEM in the world and has already built a distinct brand awareness to its Galaxy smartphone line. So yes people think more about it being Samsung than about it being Android.

RIM and Microsoft aren't valid examples here either - RIM lost its userbase through neglect and outdated technology. Microsoft is basically starting over and actually the WP8 sales figures show they are gaining some traction. Remember the only thing Android has had going for it was really that "it's not iOS". Well, Tizen offers that same benefit without the issues surrounding licensed technology.

RE: Tizen...do not like

The average consumer wouldn't care whether it's a tizen or an android. They will buy it because it's Samsung. And it's not that Samsung is apple. But Samsung covers every price point so quickly and so effectively with their godly supply chain that it will just sell.

You mean it looks a bit rounder than BB10, modern ? don't think so, i mean, HOME BUTTON, and for multitasking, PRESS AND HOLD HOME BUTTON, to bring you up to a LIST of apps. lol more modern really ?? don't make me laugh, that looks like a gameboy UI compare to BB10

It looks like Android 2.1 now, but the final version will almost certainly have Samsung's TouchWiz UI on it to give it a more familiar feel to consumers. Also, contrary to what someone said before me, Android apps can't run natively, they have to be converted. There was a CNET article this morning that confirms that in an interview with a Korean game developer that ported one of its games over to Tizen.

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