You've got another 'thing' / 'think' coming?

Is the expression "you've got another think coming"? or "another thing coming"?

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I'm pretty sure that I have heard this expression only in variations of: "If you think that, then you've got another think coming."

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This is how I've heard it as well. It's one of those things a parent says to a child when they've done something bad. I can't think of many times when you'd want to use this phrase. It looks really odd in writing.

The expression I have always heard is "think".
In the contexts where I hear this, the alternative "thing" version would be meaningless.

If that's what you think, you have another think coming.
... is clear and forceful, indicating that your current "think" will soon be rudely displaced by another. Typically said by persons in authority to children.

Amusingly, the first two Google hits for "you've got another thing coming" are about this as an erroneous form of the think version.

Comparing Google hits for the two phrases is not helpful as the thing version appears in song lyrics plastered all over the web. As a result, there now appears to be a different expression, with thing, that means goodness knows what.

I agree with Brioche, Panj and Desert Cat. It makes absolutely no sense to use the word thing. I've always thought it was think.
Brioche's suggestion of it being a pronunciation thing also makes sense.

According to this site which is pretty accurate most of the time, it's you've got another think coming (which also makes sense!)!

Here’s a case in which eagerness to avoid error leads to error. The original expression is the last part of a deliberately ungrammatical joke: “If that’s what you think, you’ve got another think coming.” http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/thing.html​

I agree with Brioche, Panj and Desert Cat. It makes absolutely no sense to use the word thing. I've always thought it was think.
Brioche's suggestion of it being a pronunciation thing also makes sense.

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Just another UK born-and-bred person here - adding her voice to the view that it is generally THINK! (Where in the UK do you live, ibby?!)

After polling every friend and family member I have, I've concluded that the expression is you've got another thing coming. The respondents emphasized that the phrase is used in a semi-threatening or threatening way.

All of them said that this expression with "think" sounds very odd, although a couple of them raised their eyebrows as they contemplated the "interesting spin" that the expression would have if it were worded with "think." But it isn't, as far as I'm concerned.

OED:think, n. 2b to have another think coming: to be greatly mistaken. 1937Amer. Speech XII. 317/1 Several different statements used for the same idea - that of some one's making a mistake...[e.g.] you have another think coming.

Thanks for the link on the "mis-use" of the expression you've got another think coming. This implies that there is only one correct version of this expression.

So, what you guys are saying is that this expression I've used my entire life, which is used throughout the Western U.S. and by everyone I know, as well as by Judas Priest, is wrong? That the version I use is not as valid as the version you use?

If that's the case, then my next question is this: To what degree do you view this thing negatively? I mean, when you hear someone say "another thing coming", do you dislike it? Does it barely register? Is it mildly annoying? Are you able to listen to the famous song of that name without retching? Does it grate on you? Have you sworn an oath to destroy it?

I'm asking because I'd like to know how much I might be irritating others by saying it. Oh... but if you think I'm going to change the way I say it, you have another thing coming.

I have difficulty in judging my reaction to another thing coming because I have never heard it used
I have never heard the song.
I have taken no oaths to destroy the thing.
It doesn't grate - yet - but I could become sensitised to it if someone kept on saying it in my presence...
... but if they did, I am fairly sure that I would add the k myself almost without noticing, unless you were being very articulate and the difference between the first think and the second thing happened to be really clear. Then I would simply consider this another example of a misheard idiom and tolerantly carry on listening. I would of course have missed a few words after the thing while I had a think

There is no doubt that the thing version is alive and well, I believe mostly in AE. What is the thing that is coming?

In truth, or, for sooth, I have always heard, something to the effect of, "If you think that, then you've got another thought coming..." Maybe I have lived under a verbal rock.

Now I have heard, "You've got another thing coming" although I'm not sure if I understand exactly what this is trying to communicate, other than the speaker wishes to convey that his/her idea strongly disagrees with the person spoken to.

I, like Fen, have always understood "thing" instead of "think." But I stand corrected. This reminds me of "I could care less" instead of "I could not care less" or "you can't have your cake and eat it too" instead of "you can't eat your cake and have it too."

I, like Fen, have always understood "thing" instead of "think." But I stand corrected. This reminds me of "I could care less" instead of "I could not care less" or "you can't have your cake and eat it too" instead of "you can't eat your cake and have it too."

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I disagree. I think that this expression with "thing" is just as meaningful as it is with "think."

On the other hand, "I could care less" means the opposite of "I couldn't care less;" and the idiom about cake just strikes me as the same sentence with the phrases reversed.

Until someone proves that the version with "think" is somehow better, more original or more logical, I don't stand corrected.

[...] Until someone proves that the version with "think" is somehow better, more original or more logical, I don't stand corrected.

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I don't feel the need to try - it is clear that there is a very well-established "thing" movement. My curiousity about the nature of the "thing" is (almost) genuine. I would like to know more about thingism. What are the characteristics of this thing?

I, like fenix, am a thing-er. I don't say this that often, but if I did, I'd be angry and annoyed.

BF: I hope you don't mind that I used our vacation money to order plasma screen TVs for every room of the apartment.

EG: You can cancel that order right now, because if you think we're actually buying them, you've got another thing coming, mister.

Admittedly, "think" would have a great deal of logic here. But that's too gentle -- merely inviting him to think again on the error of his ways. Instead, an unspecified but ominous and menacing "thing" is headed his way. The mystery of the "thing" adds to its threat, but it falls into the same generally nasty category as the implied "things" in "you'll get what's coming to you", "you'll get exactly what you deserve."

I would like to know more about thingism. What are the characteristics of this thing?

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Examples? Hmm. Here's one from the famous (?) song called "You've Got Another Thing Coming":

Judas Priest said:

If you think I'll sit around as the world goes by
You're thinkin' like a fool cause it's a case of do or die
Out there is a fortune waitin' to be had
You think I'll let it go you're mad
You've got another thing comin'

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The lyrics don't suggest what the thing is. One could only imagine what "the Metal Gods" might have in store as a punishment for someone who disagreed with them enough to make them angry. This is the idea behind the expression, which suggests that the thing in question is retribution for having wronged the speaker.

If the person talking is a mother, then the thing that is coming may be a scolding or a spanking.

If you think I'm going to clean your room for you, you've got another thing coming! Get up there and pick up your toys, mister, before I give you a good lashing!

The thing could also be a piece of someone's mind or a good talking to.

If he thinks I'm going to go to a boring party just so he can put in an appearance, he's got another thing coming! And I'm going to tell him so!

Funny... the only examples that come to mind begin with "If you think..." I can see where a logical conclusion to this idea might be "...another think coming." It seems to emphasize a misconception on the part of the other person, rather than wrongdoing.

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I've always "heard" it as another thing coming.
As in....
If you think you're having ice cream for pudding, you've got another thing coming. (A clip around the ear hole / tapioca and being sent to bed early).

I was not an especially naughty child but I see this phrase as a portent of doom for someone who's done something bad. Definitely a physical thing in this context.

I like the idea of quoting Judas Priest as an example of linguistic clarity.

as i said in my original post.. i am not denying whether think is correct or not - i was just shocked that it made no sense - you still may say it makes no sense, but please do not make me out saying think is 'incorrect'

it does not make obvious sense to me, as to have 'another' one coming, i would have to normally say, "i have a think coming", or "i have a think" which i have never heard. i don't know if any of you speak like that when stating that you have a thought (coming?)?

and to have another thinG coming, fine, maybe incorrect - but does make sense to me, i don't see how it is so complicating.

you have something else coming your way - like a shock, a punch, being fired, etc.

Many of the usage examples given relate to parent/child comments. I am convinced that this has such deep roots in childhood that any attempt to suggest that people should change would be akin to asking them to deny their heritage - so I am not going to try.

But I feel the need for a little clarification of the thinkists' position.

If you think black crows are white, you have another think coming - which is that I, personally, will make it my business to eradicate the black crows are white thought from your mind and insert, forcibly if necessary the alternative thought (the other think) that black crows are in fact black. (The use of "think" as a noun is well-established.)

Is the expression "you've got another think coming"? or "another thing coming"?

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When I first read this post, I thought the answer was perfectly obvious: BOTH.

I have now read that it is one way for some and the other for those across the way. However, I've heard, and probably used, both. The "think" version refers to prior statements about what someone thinks, and the 'thing' variety is used....well, er, um...to refer to prior statements about what someone thinks.

If “Lost” star Michelle Rodriguez thinks she’s going to get a little slap on the wrist for her drunken-driving charge in Hawaii, she’s got another thing coming, according to the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office. Rodriguez is still on probation for a DUI in November 2003 and a hit-and-run in July 2003, both in Los Angeles.

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So there. Now you have three authorities for the 'thing' version, Pollo, me, and the Los Angeles District Attorney’s Office.

If that's the case, then my next question is this: To what degree do you view this thing negatively? I mean, when you hear someone say "another thing coming", do you dislike it? Does it barely register? Is it mildly annoying? Are you able to listen to the famous song of that name without retching? Does it grate on you? Have you sworn an oath to destroy it?

I'm asking because I'd like to know how much I might be irritating others by saying it.
Cheers!

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If I heard the average person using that phrase, I would automatically assume they were saying think, but if I heard you say it Fenixpollo, I may well feel compelled to give you a clip around the ears! Just joking!

My tuppence worth here. I'm definitely in the thing camp. The way people from round Manchester pronounce their ings (the final G is definitely voiced as in sinGinG a sonG) means that the nk couldn't be confused with a ng. Unless of course I've heard it and said it wrong all my born days which could very much be the case.

I, like fenix, am a thing-er. I don't say this that often, but if I did, I'd be angry and annoyed.

BF: I hope you don't mind that I used our vacation money to order plasma screen TVs for every room of the apartment.

EG: You can cancel that order right now, because if you think we're actually buying them, you've got another thing coming, mister.

Admittedly, "think" would have a great deal of logic here. But that's too gentle -- merely inviting him to think again on the error of his ways. Instead, an unspecified but ominous and menacing "thing" is headed his way. The mystery of the "thing" adds to its threat, but it falls into the same generally nasty category as the implied "things" in "you'll get what's coming to you", "you'll get exactly what you deserve."

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I had always used ‘thing’ in the sense above—just one of those things that I did without thinking. Some years ago, someone corrected me and after seeing the impeccable logic of the thing, I started using think, but grudgingly. However, I really think ElaineG explanation is a good thing and I think I’m going to switch back to using thing. This is just a personal thing, and I would definitely not even think about ‘correcting’ a person who uses think.

Ok, so I skimmed through most of the threads and maybe someone already mentioned this but... Isn't think a conjugated verb, coming from the infinitive to think? (i think, you think, he/she/it thinks...) Thing makes much more sense to me. You have another thing coming infers a contradiction, that which one wants is not going to take place, rather something else will be the result. Think sounds bizarre to me at best.

Firstly, i should say that i have never (knowingly) heard: "you've got another think coming", and i was frankly shocked to see it as part of a dictionary entry in *13.

I have heard the expression many times, and it has always played in my ears as: "you've got another thing coming".

To me, it is an expression which is laced with menace; it means that grave consequences, of which you are currently ignorant, await you. Sometimes it means that the consequences await irrespective of any change of mind or action.

e.g. "If he thinks he's going to get away with taking a skim, then he's got another thing coming!".

It's the sort of fighting talk one might expect from the mouth of a gangster of the 1930/40s in U.S. films of the same period.

...so, greatly mistaken - yes; but a little more than that all the same.

Well, pnotunr... It is obvious from the posts in this thread that both ways (with "think" and with "thing") are correct. Your "nope" is a little too sure of itself.

If you think that yours is the only right way, then you have another thing coming.

Cheers.

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Granted. I should have said "However if you don't use it with the obligatory 'If you think so and so', then "thing" would make more sense.

I did do some research on the web and found some good examples of this being used in literature, often the source of many of our current expressions. Each usage cited the expression as I mentioned.

Judas Priest has caused "thing" to be totally acceptible in modern usage. I would say that most folks born while listening to this song use the "thing" version. I never heard it any other way than my example until their song.

I don't feel the need to try - it is clear that there is a very well-established "thing" movement. My curiousity about the nature of the "thing" is (almost) genuine. I would like to know more about thingism. What are the characteristics of this thing?

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I'm with you on this Panjandrum. I have never before heard the expression "You've got another thing coming" but have heard "You've got another think coming" a million times. What "thing" is coming? Have I missed some context?

I had always thought that the use of thing in this chant was erroneous but after reading fenixpollo's most fervent defence of his phrase I am now convinced that his phrase makes just as much sense as the phrase I have heard all my life.

If that's what you think! (There is an expectation created that something beneficial is going to happen to the thinker) Then you've got another thing coming! (A thing different from the thing you are expecting).

This makes perfect sense to me.
In some strange way it seems to be slightly less colloquial and more direct.

Here is what the American Heritage Dictionary of Idioms has to say. “Have another thing coming” is not in the dictionary. “Have another think coming” is defined as: “Be mistaken and therefore have to reconsider or rethink one’s answer.”
Equivalent to “have another guess coming.”
Related to “guess again.”
My examples:
If you think it is worth $20 you have another think coming.
You think it’s worth $20? Guess again!
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I do use “Think again, buddy!” as an invitation for a bar fight. But “another think/thing coming” sounds to me too much like a mother scolding her child to be of any real use to me.

I had always thought that the use of thing in this chant was erroneous but after reading fenixpollo's most fervent defence of his phrase I am now convinced that his phrase makes just as much sense as the phrase I have heard all my life.

If that's what you think! (There is an expectation created that something beneficial is going to happen to the thinker) Then you've got another thing coming! (A thing different from the thing you are expecting).

This makes perfect sense to me.
In some strange way it seems to be slightly less colloquial and more direct.

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You're right in your example except that my knowledge and useage of the phrase "You've got another think coming" is argumentative and your example isn't. "If that's what you think!" is agreeable and doesn't invite an argument. "You've got another think coming" is, in my experience, a challenge to the other person that their thinking needs to be changed.

You're right in your example except that my knowledge and useage of the phrase "You've got another think coming" is argumentative and your example isn't. "If that's what you think!" is agreeable and doesn't invite an argument. "You've got another think coming" is, in my experience, a challenge to the other person that their thinking needs to be changed.

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Yes I quite agree but I think that fenixpollo has given me another thing to use.
I will now be able to use the thing chant when I will brook no argument.

Granted. I should have said "However if you don't use it with the obligatory 'If you think so and so', then "thing" would make more sense.

Judas Priest has caused "thing" to be totally acceptible in modern usage. I would say that most folks born while listening to this song use the "thing" version. I never heard it any other way than my example until their song.

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Pnotunr, I know that you weren't trying to be confrontational. I'm sorry if I came across as such.

However, I'm interested in this theory that one British metal band bears the sole responsibility for the propagation of the "thing" version of the expression. It sounds as if you're saying that the "think" version is correct and that it would be the only version, if not for the (mis-)use of those rockers.

I have absolutely no doubt that the original version was along the lines of;
If that's what you think then you have another think comming.

This is a very clever double statement.

The 'think comming' is from the 'piece of my mind' that I am about to give to you which will cause you to revise your thinking.

I have noticed that many people who learn English as adults have great difficulty saying think and many native speakers will slur think to thing. This gives an easy road to allow the saying to change over the years.

I think that the think version retains both original meanings;
I am going to think really hard at you
and
You will change your thinking.

I further think that the thing version is simply a clever statement that you will not get what you want.