You'll have to forgive Blues fans their impression the Brooks Laich is a more common commodity than he is. The team they watch most often has a roster that is absolutely sh*tty with above average-to-stellar defensive forwards.

this is not to say he's not a fine player - he is. There are a ton of teams out there that would kill to have the guy, for very legitimate reasons, and if - as a caps fan - you're looking to pretend-trade him for assets, you should shop him to those other teams, because in strictly relative terms, the pretend-return from Blues fans is going to be hot garbage.

Perron is one of our few offensively creative forwards, which makes him that much more valuable to us. I love Laich's hard nosed style, but with guys like Backes, Oshie, and Steen already in the lineup, I feel like we'd be better off with a creative mind like Perron's.

This is all that really needs to be said. Perron is not an elite offensive talent, but he's the best we've got right now and Laich doesn't really fill a need as much as he adds to a strength.

You'll have to forgive Blues fans their impression the Brooks Laich is a more common commodity than he is. The team they watch most often has a roster that is absolutely sh*tty with above average-to-stellar defensive forwards.

this is not to say he's not a fine player - he is. There are a ton of teams out there that would kill to have the guy, for very legitimate reasons, and if - as a caps fan - you're looking to pretend-trade him for assets, you should shop him to those other teams, because in strictly relative terms, the pretend-return from Blues fans is going to be hot garbage.

I think Steen and Laich are essentially the same player except one is more injury prone, so the trade doesn't benefit both teams to such a high enough degree that the trade should be done, so I don't think it works

This is obviously not going to happen and I'm not trying to start a serious argument here, but how cool would it be if Tarasenko and Kuznetsov were on the same team/line...(preferably the Blues)

I think Steen and Laich are essentially the same player except one is more injury prone, so the trade doesn't benefit both teams to such a high enough degree that the trade should be done, so I don't think it works

This is obviously not going to happen and I'm not trying to start a serious argument here, but how cool would it be if Tarasenko and Kuznetsov were on the same team/line...(preferably the Blues)

St Louis gets an ideal center for their third line, allowing them to move Steen back to the wing where he's better suited. Washington gets a scoring winger for their second line, which they desperately need. I think they're close enough value-wise for a 1-for-1 swap - Perron's younger and is all-around better on offense, while Laich is bigger, significantly more durable, and is the better two-way player. So, thoughts?

As much as I would like to upgrade our 3rd liner center position, it is not worth losing DP. First off, DP is worth more than Laich. And secondly, it would make our team weaker than if we had DP and a lesser 3rd line center.

And I am pretty sure this has been stated before, but here it is again. The only way that Armstrong upgrades his team will be via picks/prospects only, his words. And of course if it was a huge piece coming back to St. Louis, he definitely would include a nhl player. But Laich is not a huge piece.

Under almost no circumstances would I ever trade Steen for Laich. I like Laich but not for Steen.

Or Backes.

Or Oshie.

Or Perron.

Or Berglund.

etc. etc.

I would ignore him. He's the one that said the Blues should trade Tarasenko to the caps because there would be no chance of getting him to come over so we should send him to the caps because their Russians would convince him to come over.

Under almost no circumstances would I ever trade Steen for Laich. I like Laich but not for Steen.

Or Backes.

Or Oshie.

Or Perron.

Or Berglund.

etc. etc.

Are Blues fans getting tired of all these proposals involving their budding young stars going the other way for a mediocre return because I am...and I chose this thread because its the best of a Bad bunch.

Are Blues fans getting tired of all these proposals involving their budding young stars going the other way for a mediocre return because I am...and I chose this thread because its the best of a Bad bunch.

Are Blues fans getting tired of all these proposals involving their budding young stars going the other way for a mediocre return because I am...and I chose this thread because its the best of a Bad bunch.