Jul 14, 2014

PSA: Elimelech Meisels Notice by Chicago Beit Din

I know all three of these rabbonim personally, and anything they say should be taken seriously - especially if they have convened a special beis din to deal with this issue... Rav Schwartz is formerly the av beis din of the RCA, Rav Feurst if the av beis din of the Agudah in Chicago, and Rav Cohen, a Lakewood musmach who heads probably the largest Orthodox shul in Chicago - that they formed a beis din together is something of note all on its own...

I guess it worked out for the best when my daughter was wait-listed for Chedvas and then didnt get in because they were over-booked...

update: The Israeli beis din has issued a decision, frumfollies breaks it all down...

The Israeli one does not know more about the situation. The victims only gave their testimony to the Special Beis Din in Chicago. If you doubt that, you should call the Rabbis on the Israeli Beis Din and ask them yourself

It should be noted that this is not a decision. Rabbi Meisels is still going to be proven innocent, this is just a temporary measure to ensure that Rabbi Meisels is not involved whilst these allegations are confirmed as lies spewed by a well connected family.

Yonatan, I'm sorry buy you are completely and utterly delusional. Mr. Meisels ADMITTED, to Rabbi Fuerst what he did. Feel free to call him - his number is readily availible. The "well connected family" argument is a lie created by the Meisels groupies. If you really believe that the esteemed Rabbis of the Chicago Beis Din were swayed by money you are a true apikores.

I know all stories first hand rabbi meisels is innocent he was brought down to court by a clinicaly crazy person whos from a well connected family .hes just to friendly to work with girls nothing so extreem. Everyone blew everything out of praportion.I know him I went to one of his seminarys!! !All the coments posted on line is total lashon hara

The Israeli Beit Din contradicted Chicago on whether to send kids to these sems. They did not exonerate Meisels. They clearly lay out their scope as limited to financial matters and administration. Nowhere does their text exonerate him. See also: http://frumfollies.wordpress.com/2014/07/15/how-to-kasher-a-seminary/

They don't contradict; Chicago transferred the 'responsibility' to Israel jurisdiction. In the meantime recommended until the Israel Beis Din convenes to refrain 'at this time' from registering. Now that Israel has issued it's recommendations, and attest to their fulfillment, there is no longer a concern to register; as is evident from the Israel Beis Din ruling on the matter.

As far as what whoever did or didn't do, the Israel Beis Din states it will deliberate on the matter within days.

Rafi, thank you very much for posting this. We have a relative who was going to attend one of the above seminaries this coming year, and we sent this to her parents. They are getting in touch with Rabbi Feurst from Chicago.

The Chicago Beis Din still strongly recommends against going. They are not hiding. Anyone can call them, like we did. I have spoken to a close friend who is close with the seminary and he insists that it is all one person with daddy issues and she got friends to testify. Think how unlikely it is, that a vindictive person would get friends to go along with this. People who meet him are mesmerized with him.

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