The Big 10 has the best offensive line. Nobody is going to beat that line. Brady is also a hug advantage here. But that is where it stops.

You could argue that the Johnsons are the two best receivers in the game. Gore is a better back than Green by far. The SEC has a good defensive line, but the ACC's is better.

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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin. One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one. Awesome. Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks.

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I'm going Big 10. Tom Brady carries that team on offense. That offensive line is stellar. And their pass rush with Watt, Suh, Woodley and Hali would be great. Plus Ray Edwards, Cliff Avril, Shaun Phillips and Ryan Kerrigan had you done any research at all.

And no offense to you but I don't think you're doing a great job putting these teams together. Why don't you make note of Rashard Mendenhall and Pierre Thomas? That changes things. Why are you listing Woodley and Hali as linebackers in a 4-3 defense? Where are Laurinaitis, Greenway, Posluszny, Sean Lee, Dan Connor, Hawk and Angerer? Where are Charles Woodson and Antoine Winfield? You don't think Ryan Pickett and Domatko Peko could make the team? Did you forget Purdue existed? Drew Brees, Ray Edwards, Shaun Phillips, Cliff Avril, Bernard Pollard, Ryan Kerrigan and Dustin Keller? Michael Robinson is a beast at FB? Barry Cofield and Luis Castillo? Mario Manningham, Leon Hall and Alan Branch? Bryan Bulaga and Karl Klug? Kelvin Hayden?

I'm going Big 10. Tom Brady carries that team on offense. That offensive line is stellar. And their pass rush with Watt, Suh, Woodley and Hali would be great. Plus Ray Edwards, Cliff Avril, Shaun Phillips and Ryan Kerrigan had you done any research at all.

And no offense to you but I don't think you're doing a great job putting these teams together. Why don't you make note of Rashard Mendenhall and Pierre Thomas? That changes things. Why are you listing Woodley and Hali as linebackers in a 4-3 defense? Where are Laurinaitis, Greenway, Posluszny, Sean Lee, Dan Connor, Hawk and Angerer? Where are Charles Woodson and Antoine Winfield? You don't think Ryan Pickett and Domatko Peko could make the team? Did you forget Purdue existed? Drew Brees, Ray Edwards, Shaun Phillips, Cliff Avril, Bernard Pollard, Ryan Kerrigan and Dustin Keller? Michael Robinson is a beast at FB? Barry Cofield and Luis Castillo? Mario Manningham, Leon Hall and Andre Branch? Bryan Bulaga and Karl Klug? Kelvin Hayden?

Half of those people you named are awful. Bernard Pollard? AJ Hawk? Really?

I'm going Big 10. Tom Brady carries that team on offense. That offensive line is stellar. And their pass rush with Watt, Suh, Woodley and Hali would be great. Plus Ray Edwards, Cliff Avril, Shaun Phillips and Ryan Kerrigan had you done any research at all.

And no offense to you but I don't think you're doing a great job putting these teams together. Why don't you make note of Rashard Mendenhall and Pierre Thomas? That changes things. Why are you listing Woodley and Hali as linebackers in a 4-3 defense? Where are Laurinaitis, Greenway, Posluszny, Sean Lee, Dan Connor, Hawk and Angerer? Where are Charles Woodson and Antoine Winfield? You don't think Ryan Pickett and Domatko Peko could make the team? Did you forget Purdue existed? Drew Brees, Ray Edwards, Shaun Phillips, Cliff Avril, Bernard Pollard, Ryan Kerrigan and Dustin Keller? Michael Robinson is a beast at FB? Barry Cofield and Luis Castillo? Mario Manningham, Leon Hall and Alan Branch? Bryan Bulaga and Karl Klug? Kelvin Hayden?

To be fair he has both bases covered in terms of 3-4 an 4-3. We aren't talking about making a full roster its a starting lineup for fun.

As for players who shouldn't even be considered... Connor, Hawk, Pickett, Robinson (FB wasn't even listed) Bulaga, Klug and that is just the start. You can make arguments for some sure but to go on a rant of these people not being included is crazy.

Sure maybe if you factor in depth the Big 10 might win more handily (Didn't do enough research to make a decision) but the fact is that is not the parameters that Sloopy as made for this.

pierre thomas should be the back over green, well, not sure if pierre should be the back but greene sure as hell shouldnt

It was actually a toss up between Pierre, Greene and Wells. I couldn't decide but I felt that Greene has been the best producer of the 3 and went with him, it could have easily been the other two though

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Had you listed Charles Woodson, Leon Hall or Antoine Winfield over Gamble that changes things. Same with Cliff Avril over Will Smith. Make it:

I think Gamble is a bit underrated by people, I considered Hall over him, but felt it was pretty close. I also considered Woodson but with Woodson being more of a slot guy, I didn't feel comfortable putting him in a #1/#2 spot.

In fact, I almost put Woodson at safety but I felt that people would poo poo at that.

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I'm going Big 10. Tom Brady carries that team on offense. That offensive line is stellar. And their pass rush with Watt, Suh, Woodley and Hali would be great. Plus Ray Edwards, Cliff Avril, Shaun Phillips and Ryan Kerrigan had you done any research at all.

If you read the original post you would know I narrowed it down to one for each position without back ups.

Letting people interchange players could mean everyone basing their decisions off of completely different teams than anyone else.

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And no offense to you but I don't think you're doing a great job putting these teams together. Why don't you make note of Rashard Mendenhall and Pierre Thomas?

Again, I had to make a decision on one person. Mendenhall is good but not great, to be completely honest, none of the big ten backs are that great.

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Why are you listing Woodley and Hali as linebackers in a 4-3 defense?

I actually built this to be able to mix a 3-4 and 4-3 although Hali and Woodley are best fit in a 3-4.

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Where are Laurinaitis

TRUST ME, I have a huge man crush on Laurinaitis and would have loved to put him there.

Even still, Navorro Bowman and David Harris are the best ILB from this division.

Bowman and Harris as 3-4 ILB > JL as a 4-3 ILB

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Greenway

Greenway is a great player but both Hali and Woodley are better 3-4 OLB than Greenway is a 4-3 OLB

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Posluszny

See explanation for JL

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Sean Lee

Bowman and Harris > Sean Lee

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Dan Connor

Dude is pretty much a backup

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Hawk

This man is certainly underrated but not better than the two chosen

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and Angerer?

Being the best Colts LB doesn't make you the best LB.

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Where are Charles Woodson and Antoine Winfield?

Explained CHalres Woodson and Winfield is pretty washed up at this point in his career

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You don't think Ryan Pickett and Domatko Peko could make the team?

Peko is a great rotational guy, not solid by himself.

Pickett almost made it but had to make a judgement call.

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Did you forget Purdue existed?

Nope

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Drew Brees

If I was building my own team, I probably take Brees over Brady at this point; but I have to think about more than myself, I have to think about what most people would agree upon.

Furthermore I liked they idea of Brady behind that line with those receivers. He is a big reason that an argument could be made for the big ten in this matchup

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Ray Edwards

Over rated

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Shaun Phillips

Not better than Hali or Woodson

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Cliff Avril

Almost made it

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Bernard Pollard

Whitner > Pollard

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Ryan Kerrigan

Great season but Hali and Woodson still are better

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and Dustin Keller?

Owen Daniels is a better receiver and we needed another receiving option for Brady

I'm going Big 10. Tom Brady carries that team on offense. That offensive line is stellar. And their pass rush with Watt, Suh, Woodley and Hali would be great. Plus Ray Edwards, Cliff Avril, Shaun Phillips and Ryan Kerrigan had you done any research at all.

And no offense to you but I don't think you're doing a great job putting these teams together. Why don't you make note of Rashard Mendenhall and Pierre Thomas? That changes things. Why are you listing Woodley and Hali as linebackers in a 4-3 defense? Where are Laurinaitis, Greenway, Posluszny, Sean Lee, Dan Connor, Hawk and Angerer? Where are Charles Woodson and Antoine Winfield? You don't think Ryan Pickett and Domatko Peko could make the team? Did you forget Purdue existed? Drew Brees, Ray Edwards, Shaun Phillips, Cliff Avril, Bernard Pollard, Ryan Kerrigan and Dustin Keller? Michael Robinson is a beast at FB? Barry Cofield and Luis Castillo? Mario Manningham, Leon Hall and Alan Branch? Bryan Bulaga and Karl Klug? Kelvin Hayden?

That's a lot of unspectacular/mediocre players to be acting so douche-y about.

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JPP is a better and more productive player than Brandon Graham

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Is Shaun Hill a top 10 QB? Definitely not. Is he a top 20 one? Almost certainly.