One of the last posts I responded to had Ricky insisting GZ hopped out of his truck and raced after TM to confront him.

That's hardly "accident".

What I said was

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He was afraid to challenge Martin when he was close by but after he thought he ran away Zimmerman's chasing reflex took over and caused him to pop out of the car in a vain effort to follow him - just like my cat jumps on me to get the food bowl in my hand even though she should know by now that I am about to put it down.

By follow I didn't mean "raced after TM to confront him". Just see where he went. I am not the prosecution, you know.

For Martin the game's goal was approach and intimidate. For Zimmerman, after he got to the clubhouse, the goal was, keep the guy in sight.

I hear nothing in the NEN call to suggest GZ viewed it as a game. Your game-playing hypothesis strikes me as nothing more than a baseless flight of fancy.

Do you agree that the 2/26 NEN call has some features not seen in previous NEN calls?

Pointless attempt to have police locate his car instead of meeting at an obvious place.

Reporting of suspect approaching his car with threatening gestures.

Moving of car during call to trail suspect

Getting out of car to trail suspect.

Profanity directed at suspect.

Expressions of exasperation and frustration.

We also have what I think is a reasonable inference that Martin followed Zimmerman from Taaffe's house to the clubhouse instead of taking a shortcut home. I find this all indicative that Zimmerman was absorbed with something else besides getting the police to the RATL ASAP to investigate a suspicious person on the premises.

I have a scientific background and I am always trying to make hypotheses to explain a set of phenomena. The game one seems to work best in this case but I will change my mind if I see a better one.

In the previous calls he seemed to think just getting the police to the complex and describing the suspect was enough. He did not need to meet them at all, with the exception of the call where the suspects were at the back gate and he was going to let the police in there because there was no code. I think he realized that suspects tend to move around and any place the cops start looking was as good as any other. But 2/26/12 was different.

Is that a post TL deleted? If there was one, I don't remember it. Yes, I agree he was trying to see if he could get a view of Martin again. But it doesn't make sense from a logical point of view to do that in the way he did it. Thus my interpretation is that it was a result of emotions caused by their interactions in the game they had been playing in the previous minutes.

probably. I seem to have lost about half of what I posted today. Good thing the trial's over I guess.

Zimmerman: Then, the next week, not at that building, but at the next building on the ending there, the, the guy I saw, broke in, apparently stole a laptop, from what I understand, and ran off. But one of the maintenance guys saw him, and was able to give the police a direction of where he was going.

O'Brien said that he thought the stucco incident happened a few months before 2/26/12 so that is not consistent with the sudden change being on the 26th. The description he gave of how the burglar was caught by following at a distance, mentioned it happened at lunchtime. So Zimmerman thinking he could do the same with Martin, in the dark, cannot be rationally justified.

I tend to think Martin's behavior when approaching Zimmerman's truck was the catalyst for this whole event. GZ undoubtedly perceived him as suspicious from the start and I think Martin realized pretty quickly he was being "watched". However, Martin's response is what elevated GZ's suspicions to another level.

Based on what was described in the police call, Martin's approaching seemed unsettling, perhaps threatening, maybe confrontational. Although nothing was verbalized, his mannerisms seem to speak of either trying to spook GZ, or perhaps provoke him.

Obviously this startled Zimmerman, he wanted the cops there ASAP. Through the eyes of someone watching over the neighborhood he saw someone cutting into the development through people's yard, instead of the gate. Possibly looking around at houses aimlessly in the rain and then staring at Zimmerman, approaching him and doing what could have very well been a gesture that he had a weapon in his waistband AND then inexplicably running away after.

Lots of people make the obvious assertion that none of this would have happened had Zimmerman just stayed in the car, but then ignore Martin's actions. However, if Martin just continued to walk home casually, no circling, no staring, no gestures I don't think Zimmerman would have left his vehicle or even have found merit in following up with police after.

he saw someone cutting into the development through people's yard, instead of the gate.

That's not consistent with GZ's statements in his SPD interviews. In the interviews, GZ always put TM in Taaffe's front yard or on TTL when GZ first saw him. GZ didn't say that he saw TM enter the complex, in the SPD interviews or the Hannity interview.