Has Allison Mack defected from NXIVM?

Based on events today, Allison Mack has likely defected from the cult that brands and blackmails women. The conditions of Mack’s release on $5 million bond include:

1. She goes to California to live with parents in home confinement.

2. She wears an ankle monitor.

3. She can’t leave her residence without advance approval.

4. She cannot meet, speak on the phone, or email members of NXIVM.

The judge told Mack, “Basically, avoid contact with anyone you know associated in any way with NXIVM.”

This appears to contradict an earlier commitment she made. Mack made ‘The Vow”, a lifetime vow of obedience to Keith Raniere, the founder of the NXIVM cult. She gave him collateral to ensure that she would never fail to honor the vow of placing him above all others.

Mack accepted freedom by agreeing not to communicate with her master, Raniere.

She is not likely to have consulted with Raniere in making this decision. He is in Brooklyn in prison – having been denied bail.

One former NXIVM slave said, “There is nothing that would make Keith Raniere more upset than losing control of Allison Mack. He is striving for control. He created a master-slave group. In the face of adversity, she was not willing to stand with her group. It will drive Keith insane. He must have complete control of everyone.”

He does not have control. This is evidenced by the fact that she agreed not to talk to him or anyone – even Mack’s wife, DOS slave, actress Nicki Clyne, whom Mack married to keep in the USA. Clyne is Canadian.

One of Mack’s slaves, India Oxenberg, has previously said she’s willing to go to jail like Nelson Mandela to uphold Mack and Raniere, but pampered Oxenberg has not been cuffed and collared like Mack, who just spent four days in the brutal Metropolitan Detention Center n Brooklyn. If she’s charges and arrested, will Oxenberg also seek to get out of jail at the cost of never speaking to anyone connected to NXIVM?

According to a court filing, Mack tolled the time clock for speedy trial because her lawyers may be trying to secure a plea. She won’t be consulting with Raniere on that either. And a good thing too, since any plea deal at this stage would require her to testify against him, her former master.

Was that trial drawing made by a devotee of Salvador Dali? They melted her face. I mean, yes, she looks thin and is wearing no make up and probably hasn’t slept well in years. But her face is not melted.

quick question here…regarding her bail security/collateral
if she had a contract with keith surrendering her condo to him prior to her arrest
“if she defected”
how does she use that condo as part of this security/collateral

from what i get about keith’s legal team….that prior contract is written pretty well
surely his legal team upon hearing “she’s defected” has some type of legal right
that could very well supersede her bail/bond agreement

The marriage was a SHAM. She didn’t have her ring on her finger when she left the court. It was fraud so no, she does not need to see her. The courts have stated she is not allowed to speak or go near Nicki

Also about cults and brainwashing. And keep in mind that Mack was literally caged like an animal by Raniere. Best case scenario is that Mack’s sociopathy (treating other human beings like slaves) was situational, and that she finds her mind and humanity again, and makes amends, as she recovers. I’m rooting for best case.

Just hope her parents make sure she doesn’t have access to a phone or the internet- I’m sure the cult would love to bring her back into the fold and are panicked. I wouldn’t be surprised if they don’t try and hit her up if she goes to the mailbox.

if she violates her bail conditions and winds up back in the slammer with no bail.

That is the thing about everyone I have known involved with NXIVM. They are pretty arrogant, and generally believe they are much smarter than everyone else. She may think she can get away with whatever she does, just like she got away with getting out of MDC.

Give it up.
Anyone who would torture and enslave people has a depraved heart.
Allison Mack is an adult who lived a very privileged life and ended up using and abusing women to enhance her own power.
This was not one small mistake.
It was a long term continuous pattern by Allison Mack of using and abusing women.

There is not a long term pattern of AM. Before 2006 there was none of this. Then after she met him it all began.

Not in one single blog comment do you mention anyone else but AM. Your hatred runs deep for her more than anyone. I’m guessing it was already there to begin with in yourself and now all you can do is project it on to her.

We already know enough about NXIVM and Allison Mack’s role in managing the slaves to judge her as a vain,egotistical, self-centered,
narcsisstic sociopath.
She has no sympathy or remorse for anyone but herself.
If she manages to testify against her co-conspirators it will only be to save her own rotten hide.

Everyone gives Allison Mack the benefit of the doubt because she is a well to do white female celebrity.

Would the same consideration be given to a poor black male from the ghetto?

I agree with you!!! I was just about to say all this! She’s playing the victim card to excuse her bad behavior and to get off free and clear! She’s the real mastermind behind all of this because she created the group to serve her own needs. She’s a narcissist, a sociopath, and a true con artist. She’s an actress, lest we not forget! The fact that she’s released from jail tells me that this case is completely over before it began. She should rot in jail. .How have they not required her to be in clinic at the very least??Nicki Clyne should be deported. All Raniere’s businesses and assets frozen!

If by “very privileged life” you mean working like an adult since you were 4 years old, no childhood, no being a high school student or going to college and getting actually smart (not Raniere crazy), and dealing with all the crap that children and women encounter in Hollywood, you have an odd definition of privileged.

It took years for Mack to become enslaved by Raniere (witnesses say she got serious about NXIVM around 2012 and had more casually participated before that) and then turn enslaver herself (when did DOS start, 2016?). She has a long recovery ahead of her, and amends to make, including jail time, and no life to come back, her old life has been destroyed, including the money she earned from a lifetime of work and relationships, including fiance, that she had built throughout her life.

No Hollywood will go for a younger sexier model.
They always do.
Which made A. Mack very susceptible to Raniere’s word salad on acting
She knew after 10 years living in Smallville
She would have a hard time appealing to adult audiences
Which brought this poor waif to tears.
And reading the Frank Report makes you wonder
If there is something in the water in Vancouver
Which makes the women there so impressionable
Heroic Sarah didn’t see the light until she smelled her own flesh burn
Sorry fans

pretty sure she benefited finically from having slaves. Pretty sure she held women down and said “think of your master” as their flesh was cauterized with Raniere’s brand. Yah know, too keep rustlers from stealing from Raniere’s herd.

IMO, she physically looks better than she did in the video from Mexico but much thinner than the last time I saw her last October running thru Knox Woods over by Monmouth Way on a Friday when she smiled at me and the three people I was talking to while outside on a beautiful Fall day in Upstate NY. We were actually talking about NXIVM as Catherine Oxenberg’s story had just aired on TV and it was the talk of the neighborhood. We were trying to find where India was holed up. Based on the video clip that was aired of India skype-ing home, we were able to locate the exact porch India was on and that turns out to be Allison’s condo. However, it had appeared India had moved on to another location and was probably staying with Keith, Allison and Marianna over on Oregon Trail and was no longer living in Knox Woods. Whenever I saw her walking, she was coming from Stage Run, walking thru Knox Woods and then headed back to Stage Run.

Moving on to other tidbits:

A van and truck emptied the rest of Nancy Salzman’s belongings from 3 Oregon Trail on Sunday a neighbor reports. No trespassing signs sit on either side of her driveway now.

Lauren Salzman’s driveway also sports no trespassing signs. There is no sign of Lauren at her home.

The Porters have fled their home on Oregon Trail, although the garage door has been seen up with a car in it from time to time. They are still most definitely in the area and appear to have relocated to one of Clare Bronfman’s homes in the area. A friend followed them over towards Clare’s Button Road home which is secluded.

Let’s mention how bad this court artist is. It looks nothing like Allison. The photos today of Mack leaving (still can’t believe she actually walked out the front door with no police escort) show her to be looking as good as she ever has. I suspect some application of makeup may have happened before she left, but there’s no way I can believe she EVER looked as rotten as the two court sketches we’ve seen suggested.

Dude I love figure drawing, I majored in fine arts, love to draw on the spot. If I drew like this courtroom artist I’d consider it a “practice” drawing. I would hope they get a lot of practice drawing quick gesture sketches of real humans every day through court cases, but who knows? Where the heck can I submit a portfolio or do a working interview to become one? Part time hours okay. I’m not picky. Once I got out of work too late to ht my community figure drawing session in Providence, RI, so I took to drawing at Kennedy Plaza bus station of degenerates. There I had my first meeting with “Papi Chulo,” who begged me to draw him, which I did rather poorly but he loved it, somehow knew at least a dozen people and showed them my drawing while asking for a nickel bag of weed, then introduced me to his police “friends” before threatening my bus driver that he better get me home safely or he’d kick his “white ass.” Papi Chulo’s drug use evidently erased all brain cells because I had several other encounters with him with complete failure to remember me, including asking me for a lighter, when I said I didn’t have one, he proclaimed “If you can’t hang in da hood, don’t be in da hood!” I have no idea what that means, I lived across the street.

Live figure drawing is a lot of fun to meet some strange folks up close or afar, I figure court drawing is similar

I think we are FAR BEYOND collateral that he has over her. (People already know what he had over her so it no longer holds the power that it once did). It also only holds power if people don’t know who released it. We all know Keith was the one who held it.

Allison is free of this monster and can now rebuild her life.

Sure, she may never again work as an actress and she might feel at the lowest point in her life but the only way is up now.

She can choose to drown or swim to the surface and do what is right – —— hand over everything she knows and has on Keith.

You actually cannot change a person that much in four days (unless we are speaking in terms of PTSD), but you can really change the circumstances (social pressures) and thereby alter behavior (roles, goals, etc.)

You just identified a social pressure. To change a person suggests a fundamental alteration in values, personality, synaptic connections, self-narratives, etc. For example, you could fundamentally change loyalties, but the same predisposition, inclinations, and vulnerabilities could be the same things motivating you in a new direction.

I’m not disagreeing with your speculated outcomes, but just cautioning against the notion that a person can “see the light”, “deprogram”, or “reform” in a short time space. The inner work is more demanding than the outer work.

If she helps bring down a Monster, she will at least partially redeem herself and maybe start healing. She is certainly culpable but maybe it all started with innocuous intentions of loyalty, “life meaning”, and dedication. I do believe that near starvation, indoctrination by a confirmed sociopath, and sleep deprivation can alter the normal thought / reasoning process. I cannot believe that she nor anyone else actually sat there and heard women scream in pain without reaction, but this is well beyond my experience – thank God! The world needs to be shielded from the KR’s of our time. Allison, please help us all and do the right thing. You can do it. If you will do that, I will root for you. You are very young indeed.

You’ve got a brain, use it. If Jane Doe 2 got wrapped into Allison’s indictment, will CC2 even be charged? I won’t be surprised if no further slaves are arrested (except for Lauren, deeply involved with NXIVM backend) and remaining focus turns to the Bronfmans, the Salzmans, the two doctors, and whatever people were directly involved with illegal money and immigrant shenanigans.

Why do you assume she’s stupid? She’s no genius but her writings are eloquent enough, she has had intelligent discussions on podcasts and interviews, and during the brief meting I had with her at a convention she seemed witty enough. But yeah, the fact Allison is at the top means she probably knows everything any other girl would know unless they were present for something specific or had the names of others. But truly I think having more than one eye-witness can only help the courts get a conviction, making a deal with the most harmless two seems like a good idea, especially since India might be a PR nightmare because of how important her Mother was in shining a light on this.