Please. It was a rope. Just b/c it never got up very high, that shouldn't matter. Berk's HR is a can of corn on most high school fields I played on.

jk the sooner fan

10/19/2005, 05:46 PM

thats why i hate minute maid park, you shouldnt be able to fling your bat like Berkman did and watch it go over the fence

absurd

Sooner04

10/19/2005, 05:50 PM

Please. It was a rope. Just b/c it never got up very high, that shouldn't matter. Berk's HR is a can of corn on most high school fields I played on.
You serious? It too was a rope and landed three rows into the seats 15-20 feet above the field about 20 feet to the right of the 315 sign. If it's not a homer at most parks, it's at least a double that clears the bases. Berk's got a hell of a swing, that's why his ball doesn't tail. He fires rockets all over the outfield.

McGwire hit his about the same distance, but with assistance from Professor Frink.

http://plhax.haxterweather.com/asylum/oddnums/images/frink.gif

OUAndy1807

10/20/2005, 12:06 AM

I hate baseball.

Penguin

10/20/2005, 12:16 AM

That swing is pretty sweet. I'm sure he'll put it to good use on the golf course next week.

picasso

10/20/2005, 01:01 AM

Berkman looks like anything but a ball player but the guy has one sweet stroke.
he doesn't kick the leg like I used to though. added a couple of bloops here and there.

Penguin

10/20/2005, 01:32 AM

Why are cards so obsessed with ballpark smack? Extremely weak.

Both teams were playing at the exact same ballpark the exact same night. There is absolutely nothing that you can say that will change that fact.

nanimonai

10/20/2005, 01:43 AM

That swing is pretty sweet. I'm sure he'll put it to good use on the golf course next week.
:D

jk the sooner fan

10/20/2005, 05:24 AM

Why are cards so obsessed with ballpark smack? Extremely weak.

Both teams were playing at the exact same ballpark the exact same night. There is absolutely nothing that you can say that will change that fact.

1 - i am anything but a cards fan

2 - your park sucks, period, end of story....its a freak show of a baseball field....a NOVELTY

Stanley1

10/20/2005, 07:51 AM

That swing is pretty sweet. I'm sure he'll put it to good use on the golf course next week.

Bragging about beating this Cardinals team is like ut bragging about beating OU this year.

We couldn't have been more banged up. Also, what was up with all the bad calls in this series. Another one last night on the "phantom" tag of Molina at 2B.

<sigh>

Go Whitesox.

Red October

10/20/2005, 08:13 AM

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51130

Who's your Daddy!!!!

Red October

10/20/2005, 08:15 AM

Bragging about beating this Cardinals team is like ut bragging about beating OU this year.

We couldn't have been more banged up. Also, what was up with all the bad calls in this series. Another one last night on the "phantom" tag of Molina at 2B.

<sigh>

Go Whitesox.

Dude, you sound like Mack. Were the cards going against the wind too? Cards are always a tough team. To win at Busch is even tougher... Kudos to the Astros and Oswalt. I really thought the Cards had the advantage going into the game last night.

Great game IMO ;)

Scott D

10/20/2005, 09:14 AM

Bragging about beating this Cardinals team is like ut bragging about beating OU this year.

We couldn't have been more banged up. Also, what was up with all the bad calls in this series. Another one last night on the "phantom" tag of Molina at 2B.

probably better the Cards didn't make it...LaRussa would just go 1-5 in trying to win a World Series anyway.

<sigh>

Go Whitesox.

please no, support the National League, thanks.

Scott D

10/20/2005, 09:15 AM

Why are cards so obsessed with ballpark smack? Extremely weak.

Both teams were playing at the exact same ballpark the exact same night. There is absolutely nothing that you can say that will change that fact.

dude, Minute Maid is a frickin joke...there another non cards fan said it...they should have a professional Softball league team playing there not a Baseball team.

GrapevineSooner

10/20/2005, 10:28 AM

Funny how people are ridiculing Minute Maid park for one of the very same things they find endearing to Fenway and Yankee Stadium.

Last I checked, both teams get to play in the same park and have the same opportunity to hit 'cheap' home runs. Though Pujols and Berkman's shots certainly weren't cheap.

Bragging about beating this Cardinals team is like ut bragging about beating OU this year.

We couldn't have been more banged up. Also, what was up with all the bad calls in this series. Another one last night on the "phantom" tag of Molina at 2B.
I don't think it's so much about the Astros beating the Cards as it is the Astros were once 15-30 this year and came back to win the pennant.

Scott D

10/20/2005, 11:36 AM

Funny how people are ridiculing Minute Maid park for one of the very same things they find endearing to Fenway and Yankee Stadium.

Last I checked, both teams get to play in the same park and have the same opportunity to hit 'cheap' home runs. Though Pujols and Berkman's shots certainly weren't cheap.

I don't think it's so much about the Astros beating the Cards as it is the Astros were once 15-30 this year and came back to win the pennant.

eh, people ridiculed Mile High, and the current Rockies stadium for the same reason. You don't hear many things about how the Dodgers used to build the pitchers mound a little higher than everyone else to give their pitchers an advantage in Chavez Ravine back in the day. Anyhow, home team hitters should always have an advantage in their home ballpark, they should better know the nuances.

I must admit, there is a part of me that would love to see the adventures that are Manny Ramirez fielding in say the old Polo Grounds with the way the ball would carom off of that fence, and the angles of some of those fences.

Penguin

10/20/2005, 12:14 PM

Why do people love those boring cookie cutter ballparks? Different dimensions and different angles all along the outfield walls makes things interesting. When Ruth played at Yankee Stadium, the right field wall was 295 feet away from home plate (and it wasn't 20 feet tall). I've never heard anybody complain about that joke of a ballpark. I guess the cookie cutter fans also hate Fenway and Wrigley?

I guess unique = bad whenever you lose.

GrapevineSooner

10/20/2005, 12:18 PM

I must admit, there is a part of me that would love to see the adventures that are Manny Ramirez fielding in say the old Polo Grounds with the way the ball would carom off of that fence, and the angles of some of those fences.
Oh please!!!

Man-Ram has a hard enough time playing balls off the Monster.

I enjoy a little schadenfreude just as much as the next guy. But what you're suggesting here is flat out sick. ;)

Scott D

10/20/2005, 03:40 PM

Why do people love those boring cookie cutter ballparks? Different dimensions and different angles all along the outfield walls makes things interesting. When Ruth played at Yankee Stadium, the right field wall was 295 feet away from home plate (and it wasn't 20 feet tall). I've never heard anybody complain about that joke of a ballpark. I guess the cookie cutter fans also hate Fenway and Wrigley?

I guess unique = bad whenever you lose.

Um...my team lost?

A park can be unique, but I honestly hate basically all of them these days, they're catering the design to the softball game, and away from the baseball game.

Scott D

10/20/2005, 03:41 PM

Oh please!!!

Man-Ram has a hard enough time playing balls off the Monster.

I enjoy a little schadenfreude just as much as the next guy. But what you're suggesting here is flat out sick. ;)

have I ever given any indication that I'm not sick like that? :)

josh09

10/20/2005, 04:28 PM

man, the astros smothered the cardinals last night. so sweet for me, ive been a stros fan all my life. cardinals got their chance last year, now its our turn. so you guys shouldnt be mad.

C&CDean

10/21/2005, 09:54 AM

WTF are you guys babbling about? Baseball season is officially over.

See you at spring training.

Soonerfan85

10/21/2005, 01:31 PM

....Baseball season is officially over....

Heh, only for fans of teams not named the Houston Astros or Chicago White Sox. :D

jk the sooner fan

10/21/2005, 01:34 PM

dig all you want, minute maid park IS a novelty

how many other MLB ballparks have an incline in the outfield? and this is the opinion who is not a fan of any playoff teams, so please save that argument for somebody else

Scott D

10/21/2005, 01:36 PM

dig all you want, minute maid park IS a novelty

how many other MLB ballparks have an incline in the outfield? and this is the opinion who is not a fan of any playoff teams, so please save that argument for somebody else

a joke hand buzzer is a novelty too ;)

Sooner04

10/21/2005, 02:06 PM

A park can be unique, but I honestly hate basically all of them these days, they're catering the design to the softball game, and away from the baseball game.
Not Petco Park.

C&CDean

10/21/2005, 02:26 PM

Not Petco Park.

Is that what they're calling the park in SD?

sooneron

10/21/2005, 05:06 PM

dig all you want, minute maid park IS a novelty

how many other MLB ballparks have an incline in the outfield? and this is the opinion who is not a fan of any playoff teams, so please save that argument for somebody else
You should read up a little more, jk.

Everything nuance in that park is a testament to other ballparks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minute_Maid_Park

jk the sooner fan

10/21/2005, 05:57 PM

You should read up a little more, jk.

Everything nuance in that park is a testament to other ballparks.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minute_Maid_Park

CURRENT ballparks......

Penguin

10/21/2005, 08:16 PM

Um...my team lost?

A park can be unique, but I honestly hate basically all of them these days, they're catering the design to the softball game, and away from the baseball game.
Well? Spit it out! What boring ballpark would make you happy? 100 foot tall walls 450 feet away from home plate?

Scott D

10/22/2005, 10:38 AM

Well? Spit it out! What boring ballpark would make you happy? 100 foot tall walls 450 feet away from home plate?

eh, I'm not looking for any sort of boring ballpark, but rather one where the hitters aren't being given a complete advantage by the design and dimensions. Comerica Park was a nice one when they built it...however in the years since they've crept the fences in regularly. That's the problem I have with the new ballparks. The fact that through intent they're being turned into glorified Softball fields.

sooneron

10/22/2005, 11:13 AM

You never said CURRENT!

If you're a lefty pull hitter, the juice box is not so easy.

Not to mention, the porch in left at the Bronx, is pretty much a joke with the prevailing breeze, as can be the right field wall. I seem to remember Knoblauch (yes, friggin Knoblauch!) hit one out over that wall just by making contact.

BillyBall

10/22/2005, 11:19 AM

Go White Sox!! I hate the AL but this city needs it. If they do win this thing, the southside is going to EXPLODE.

sooneron

10/22/2005, 11:25 AM

How does Chi need it more than Houston?
3 basketball titles within the last 10 years. That may seem long ago, but when did Houston win last? 2 in 94/95. Heap on top of that , Enron.

tulsaoilerfan

10/22/2005, 11:38 AM

1 - i am anything but a cards fan

2 - your park sucks, period, end of story....its a freak show of a baseball field....a NOVELTY
So the incline was borrowed from Crosley Field? I still hate it.

BillyBall

10/22/2005, 12:10 PM

How does Chi need it more than Houston?
3 basketball titles within the last 10 years. That may seem long ago, but when did Houston win last? 2 in 94/95. Heap on top of that , Enron.

I am in no way saying that Chicago needs it more than Houston, I just think that the fans of this city (both Cubs and Sox) have waited long enough to win a World Series. **Sox last won in 1917 and the Cubs in 1908** Hell, the Sox threw a Series since they've won one....

That being said, I'm glad that the Cards didn't make the Series for the simple fact that the suicide rate on the northside would have spiked if it were a Red Bird-White Sox series.... ;)

Penguin

10/22/2005, 05:06 PM

eh, I'm not looking for any sort of boring ballpark, but rather one where the hitters aren't being given a complete advantage by the design and dimensions.

Complete advantage? I guess the Astros have consistently had at least one hitter with 50-55 home runs every year? I guess the Astros should always have the second worst ERA in the league (after Colorado)?

Throw in a challenge and make teams adapt. That's more interesting to me than making every team play in the same cookie cutter ballpark.

josh09

10/22/2005, 05:24 PM

i say astros in 6. white sox dont need a championship, at least theyve HAD one.

BillyBall

10/22/2005, 05:30 PM

white sox dont need a championship, at least theyve HAD one.

The Sox last won a WS 88 years ago. The Astros have been around for 43 years. Your point is crap.

Scott D

10/22/2005, 06:49 PM

Complete advantage? I guess the Astros have consistently had at least one hitter with 50-55 home runs every year? I guess the Astros should always have the second worst ERA in the league (after Colorado)?

Throw in a challenge and make teams adapt. That's more interesting to me than making every team play in the same cookie cutter ballpark.

You continue to think I'm suggesting that they be cookie cutter parks....I'm not. I am suggesting that they not be glorified softball fields, which they are. The distances and angles are elementary in design at best and created with the intent of creating offense.

josh09

10/23/2005, 10:13 AM

The Sox last won a WS 88 years ago. The Astros have been around for 43 years. Your point is crap.

my point is not crap. theyve at least had one before, no matter how long ago it was.

the astros deserve it.

Scott D

10/23/2005, 01:52 PM

my point is not crap. theyve at least had one before, no matter how long ago it was.