WWI Digest 1029
Topics covered in this issue include:
1) Esci SE5a notes
by mgoodwin@ricochet.net
2) Re: sworl fabric
by bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer)
3) RE: Farewell to all this.....
by Pedro e Francisca Soares
4) Re: Sikorsky S.XVI
by mgoodwin@ricochet.net
5) Re: FMP book
by mgoodwin@ricochet.net
6) Re: sworl fabric
by Matthew Zivich
7) RE: sworl fabric
by Matthew Zivich
8) Re: sworl fabric
by Matthew Zivich
9) Re: sworl fabric
by Ernest Thomas
10) Re: Macchi M5
by "David R.L. Laws"
11) Re: Paolo &Navis was Macchi M5 - NAVIS
by "David R.L. Laws"
12) Re: Paolo &Navis was Macchi M5 - NAVIS
by KarrArt
13) Re: sworl fabric
by mbittner@juno.com
14) Re: Sikorsky S.XVI
by mbittner@juno.com
15) Re: Paolo &Navis was Macchi M5 - NAVIS
by Alberto Rada
16) DML Gun Problems
by dandk@mediaone.net
17) Re: QUARTER SCALE MODELLER
by "David R.L. Laws"
18) E.V victory or virtories (?)
by "Charles Duckworth"
19) Re: DML Gun Problems
by Ernest Thomas
20) Re: DML Gun Problems
by Ernest Thomas
21) Re: DML Gun Problems/one more time
by dandk@mediaone.net
22) Re: DML Gun Problems/one more time
by Ernest Thomas
23) Re: Sikorsky S.XVI
by Charles Hart
24) Re: E.V victory or virtories (?)
by Mick Fauchon
25) Re: QUARTER SCALE MODELLER
by "Lee Mensinger"
26) Re: Sikorsky S.XVI
by Joey Valenciano
27) =?iso-8859-1?Q?Walter_von_B=FClow-Bothcamp?=
by Joey Valenciano
28) Re: Walter von Bulow-Bothcamp
by Bob Pearson
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:06:52 -0700
From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net
To: wwi
Subject: Esci SE5a notes
Message-ID: <3562108C.6106@ricochet.net>
In case anyone's interested, I've started messing about with this kit
and can offer a few comments.
First of all, nice thin wings -- almost too thin, in fact to allow
unwarping. I'm no smoothy at this yet, but when I did the hot water
routine, the trailing edge threatened to curl up. Excercise extreme
caution and only use *barely* boiling water. Interplane struts are
familiar parallelogram format, so will need replacement/blending into
wings. Ribs just a tad too protruding, so I lightly sanded these down.
Lewis is OK, but Foster mounting is a bit thick and will look better
after some attention with a pin vise. Vickers is fair to poor, but I'll
dress it up and use it anyway, since only about the front 1/3 is
showing. Vickers fuselage installation is way off, and may require
cutting a rectange out of the front decking to achieve correct angle.
This is probably the biggest problem with the kit, but it is fixable
with a little work.
Fin/rudder a bit too rounded, so some may want to replace 'em.
Remove cockpit tub; unfortunately, none of it is really in the right
places to help rebuild interior.
Molded-on exhaust system should be removed and replaced by separate
scratched dualies. Viper valve covers are a bit undersized, so should
probably be augmented or replaced. Sand and/or prime fabric texture
away. Rear deck stringers and canvas wheel cover spokes overdone, as
are stitching 'bars' on fuselage. Resolve as needed. Undercarriage is
perhaps slightly anemic, but I can live with it.
Prop and radiator look good. AFAICT, this is a Wolseley Viper-powered
variant.
As usual with Esci, decal roundels have an overly bright colors, so I'll
be using some from an old Microscale sheet.
FWIW,
Riordan
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:26:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: bshatzer@orednet.org (Bill Shatzer)
To: wwi
Subject: Re: sworl fabric
Message-ID: <199805192226.PAA08603@ednet1.orednet.org>
>Forgot to mention, this sounds very interesting and might lead to
>something. However, I'm a little skeptical. Wouldn't Dr. O'Connor have
>gone through this with the Backhausen Comp. once before? It just seems
>natural that he would have while doing his research. (Good Luck!)
>Matt Z.
Dunno - who would have thought that a 1918 firm would still
be in business under the same name 80 years later? I certainly
wouldn't have thought about that possibility and perhaps the
good doctor overlooked it as well. If he did follow up this idea,
you'd think he'd have mentioned it in the book and the results,
negative or otherwise, of his inquiry
And I salute the ingenuity of whomever it was who first got the
idea to check out this possibility.
Cheers and all,
--
Bill Shatzer - bshatzer@orednet.org
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 23:41:17 +0200
From: Pedro e Francisca Soares
To: "'wwi@pease1.sr.unh.edu'"
Subject: RE: Farewell to all this.....
Message-ID: <01BD8384.263B8AC0@fei1-p6.telepac.pt>
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Mitchell [SMTP:PeterM3@nch.edu.au]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 3:43 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Farewell to all this.....
Dear list,
Well this is just a note to say "bye".
I'll answer that when you say Hi again, brother.
All the best
Um abraco
Pedro
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:21:51 -0700
From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Sikorsky S.XVI
Message-ID: <3562140F.34FE@ricochet.net>
mbittner@juno.com wrote:
>
> I'm looking at the Dakoplast Sikorsky S.XVI (it came in, Ken)
Where'd you get this 'un?
Riordan
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 16:31:51 -0700
From: mgoodwin@ricochet.net
To: wwi
Subject: Re: FMP book
Message-ID: <35621667.1208@ricochet.net>
Charles Hart wrote:
>
> Austro-Hungarian Army Aircraft of WW I by Peter Grosz and others
>
> Flying Machines Press, 1993,
>
> New copies are available from several outlets. Only 3000 copies were
> printed. It will set you back about US$80.00. Highly recommended
FWIW, I got hold of a copy (in mint condition) of the above for $65 +
postage thru abebooks.com. Second-hand copies are rare, but worth
searching out.
Riordan
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:46:31 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew Zivich
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: sworl fabric
Message-ID:
According to the Backhausen website the company was temporarily down
immediately after WWII, but they recuperated rather quickly and resumed
business as usual. I'm sure well before Dr. O'C. researched his book. It
still makes me wonder why he didn't follow through on this lead when it
seems he was a very thorough researcher otherwise.
MZ
On Tue, 19 May 1998, Charles Hart wrote:
> Perhaps. but back in the mid-1980s when he was researching this,
> O'Connor was informed (apparently mistakenly) that the firm that produced
> the sworl fabric had gone out of business in 1945. This is clearly stated
> in O'Connor's article in Cross & Cockade International.
>
> Charles
>
> hartc@spot.colorado.edu
>
>
>
> >Forgot to mention, this sounds very interesting and might lead to
> >something. However, I'm a little skeptical. Wouldn't Dr. O'Connor have
> >gone through this with the Backhausen Comp. once before? It just seems
> >natural that he would have while doing his research. (Good Luck!)
> >
> >Matt Z.
> >
> >On Tue, 19 May 1998, Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador wrote:
> >
> >> dear list:
> >>
> >> i've just received a fax from ing. peter backhausen of joh. backhausen and
> >> sons, vienna. as you'll recall from previous episodes, this firm produced
> >> the sworl fabric used on albatros (oef) d.iii's. to quote the first
> >> paragraph,
> >>
> >> "with great interest i have learned from your e-mail of may 5th,
> >>1998 that
> >> our company produced printed
> >> fabrics for aircraft use in 1918. last weed-end i investigated in
> >>our
> >> archive whether i could find any documents
> >> about these products. unfortunately my efforts were in vain.
> >>however,
> >> that doesn't mean that we had nevertheless
> >> produced these fabrics, but only no comments had been made in the
> >>design
> >> records that the fabrics were meant
> >> for aircraft use."
> >>
> >> further,
> >>
> >> "may i therefore ask you to submit us a copy of the mentioned black
> >>and
> >> white photo, on account of the pattern
> >> we would then know at once whether this special design had been
> >>produced
> >> by us then. if we know the design
> >> number, we could find in our design books also the corresponding
> >>color
> >> shades."
> >>
> >> i will send ing. backhausen copies of the single b/w photo, dr. o'connor's
> >> description, and the color plate from the FMP book, cautioning him that the
> >> color plate is a possible 3 color simplification of a 4 color scheme. my
> >> question to the list is: are there
> >> any nice "close up" photos of sworl (the b/w pic, the subject of the color
> >> plate, is taken from relatively far away to include the whole plane...)?
> >> if so, and handy, could you please scan it and forward the scan to me? i
> >> will take what i receive by this friday and forward it with the other
> >> material to ing. backhausen.
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >>
> >> phillip
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:59:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew Zivich
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: RE: sworl fabric
Message-ID:
Dr.PAM:
Yes, lots of pictures all in black and white since they were taken during
the war. Some rather crude line drawings to display location of markings
and perhaps flight formations, etc. I think. It is of course in German,
but you could reasonably piece together some of the text with a scant
knowledge of the language. A rather good close-up of a D-III with
Frederic Navratil in the cockpit showing the haphazard application of dark
green over the ply. fuselage and metal wing fairings: thin, diluted paint
rubbed on with rags, my guess. (I'm trying to recreate this plane now.)
And yes there is the sworl pattern: small crescents on a dark ground and
the notorious swirl pattern: one closeup and the familiar rear view of #6,
253 series.
I also picked up the Harleyford pub. of Tony Fokker, the Man, etc. He died
at age 49 of an infection following nasal surgery in NYC. Transfusions
and the latest in medicine in 1939 couldn't save him. Must have been one
of those fast acting staph infections. He died in a couple of days.
Matt Z
On Tue, 19 May 1998, Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador wrote:
> matthew:
>
> apologies for using jargon, but the FMP book is the book "austro-hungarian
> army aircraft of world war one" by Flying Machines Press (FMP). somewhat
> redundant, since there were no A-H a/c of world war 2. good book. how
> about a review of the book you've gotten thru interlibrary loan? color
> plates? lots o' pix??
>
> phillip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Zivich [SMTP:mzivich@svsu.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 4:34 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: sworl fabric
>
> I'm not sure what the FMP book is, but I just received a copy through
> interlibrary loan of the Oeffag Albatros book in German that I learned
> about from the list a few weeks ago. (There are 2 copies in US libraries:
> one in the LOC of course, and one at the University of Notre Dame.) It
> has a photograph in black and white by Dr. O'Connor of the swirl (whorl)
> pattern.
>
> Matt Z.
>
> On Tue, 19 May 1998, Dr. Phillip Anz-Meador wrote:
>
> > dear list:
> >
> >
>
>
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:02:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Matthew Zivich
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: sworl fabric
Message-ID:
Budweiser is still in business owned by the same family for nearly a
hundred years just to name one.
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 19:30:25 -0500
From: Ernest Thomas
To: wwi
Subject: Re: sworl fabric
Message-ID: <35622421.4540@bellsouth.net>
Bill Shatzer wrote:
> Dunno - who would have thought that a 1918 firm would still
> be in business under the same name 80 years later?
There's quite a few on those. Mercedes benz, Colt Firearms, Sidley, GE(I
think)...
Just to name a few. Do you have the 1919 Janes eition with all the old
ads from the mfg's. If so, Go through those and see how many names you
can find that are still in business.
E.
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 10:49:56 +0000
From: "David R.L. Laws"
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Macchi M5
Message-ID: <3562B554.482E@webtime.com.au>
KarrArt wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-05-18 17:20:24 EDT, you write:
>
> << Another beautiful job, Alberto!
> Carlos >>
>
> Whew! good looking "wood"!
> Robert K.
Second the motion !!!
OK Alberto, ... How DID you do the sea - Love the " splash " effect
especially on the Port side !
david
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 11:01:14 +0000
From: "David R.L. Laws"
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Paolo &Navis was Macchi M5 - NAVIS
Message-ID: <3562B7FA.6227@webtime.com.au>
ROBERT/ PAULO
ANY DETAILS ON NAVIS - http details and annual fees - sounds
interesting
DAVID
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:08:37 EDT
From: KarrArt
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Paolo &Navis was Macchi M5 - NAVIS
Message-ID: <290382be.35622d17@aol.com>
In a message dated 98-05-19 20:52:26 EDT, you write:
<< ANY DETAILS ON NAVIS - http details and annual fees - sounds
interesting
DAVID
>>
The address is www.navismagazine.com
I'm not sure if the price is $15 or $20 US per year.
ALOT of ships but increasing air coverage (for all you Victorian naval freaks
the currant issue has a nice photo essay on the sail-steam wood-iron
transitionalHMS Warrior)
Robert K.
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:41:13 -0500
From: mbittner@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: sworl fabric
Message-ID: <19980519.204200.14550.1.mbittner@juno.com>
On Tue, 19 May 1998 20:05:41 -0400 Matthew Zivich
writes:
>Budweiser is still in business owned by the same family for nearly a
>hundred years just to name one.
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:40:30 -0500
From: mbittner@juno.com
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Sikorsky S.XVI
Message-ID: <19980519.204200.14550.0.mbittner@juno.com>
On Tue, 19 May 1998 19:32:13 -0400 mgoodwin@ricochet.net writes:
>> I'm looking at the Dakoplast Sikorsky S.XVI (it came in, Ken)
>
>Where'd you get this 'un?
>From KPL Systems. URL:
http://pages.prodigy.com/TWBT41B/kpl.htm
This was the second order I have placed from him, and have had wonderful
service.
So far, it's the only shop in the US that carries all the new Eastern
European and CIS companies - for example, Toko, Dakoplast, ICM, etc.
The only WW1's he has in so far are the two Toko early releases. He
received only two S.XVI's with the last batch, and both went quick. He
told me he's expecting more S.XVI's - as well as the Toko Nie.11's (woo
hoo!!!) and Snipes - in the beginning of June.
I have no idea how he's able to get them over other shops, but I suspect
he has a contact "over there". Just my opinion, though.
Matt Bittner
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:58:40 -0400
From: Alberto Rada
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Paolo &Navis was Macchi M5 - NAVIS
Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980519215840.008b8330@argonaut.net>
Paolo Pizzi and Navis
Paolo is a superb modeler with a profound knowledge on Marine History
and also has that artistic quality inherited from his Italian ancestry, he
is the
marine counterpart of Alberto Casirati, I am at the verge of discovering his
secret formula, whereby he makes his models in 1/96 and shrinks them to 1/700.
He started time ago a Marine modeling page on the net called Navis, this
was a big success and established itself as the page on the subject, not
having a list like ours incorporated, it was a mammoth task as he did sole
handed,
articles, model reviews, walk around tours etc. etc.
Some months ago he did the daring jump of converting it into a Web
publication
specialized in Marine and Aviation Modeling open to all eras, he is
gathering a lot
of good pens and talent around it, several numbers have come out, the first
number
surpassed ,in quality and interest, most of the published magazines known
to us,
subsequent issues, as incredible as it sounds are coming out better and
better.
The cost of $ 20.00 per year for 12 issues is not much compared to what
you get
in return
So, you see, I agree completely with Robert Kar on the subject, this is an
Oasis on
the internet that a modeler should not miss.
Look for it at: http://navismagazine.com/
SALUDOS
Alberto
At 08:54 PM 19-05-98 -0400, you wrote:
>ROBERT/ PAULO
>
>ANY DETAILS ON NAVIS - http details and annual fees - sounds
>interesting
>
>DAVID
>
>
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 20:05:32 -0700
From: dandk@mediaone.net
To: Model
Subject: DML Gun Problems
Message-ID: <3562487B.ED802289@mediaone.net>
Greeting all,
Slightly frustrated newcomer Dave S here with a problem building
my DML 1/48 guns. As I'm sure some of you know when you first try to put
these together the gun barrel is slightly too long for the jackets.
Through my advanced modeling ability I have now made the barrels too
short for the jackets. I have seen it suggested to use syringe needles
but living in L.A. the only places I think I could get them really
aren't safe to go without a WORKING Spandau. I've never tried pulling
sprue, but it seems hard for a newcomer. Any other ideas? Can anybody
get the needle tips where they live and sell some to me? As always
thanks for your time and thanks to Bill and IRA for the great painting
advice.
Keep 'em flyin',
Dave S
P.S. Tips for drilling/re-attatching the barrel tips would also be
greatly appreciated.
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 13:16:31 +0000
From: "David R.L. Laws"
To: wwi
Subject: Re: QUARTER SCALE MODELLER
Message-ID: <3562D7AF.6A32@webtime.com.au>
HELLO TO ALL
Any one out there know of this magazine ?
Any general comments, Value for money, general coverage that kind of
thing ... ?
Do they have a web site - Hot Bot pulled a blank
DAVID
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 22:16:08 -0500
From: "Charles Duckworth"
To:
Subject: E.V victory or virtories (?)
Message-ID: <199805200315.WAA18298@mail.primary.net>
I built the DML version of the same machine, and included a
> >placard marking it as Loewenhardt's ride. Greg Van Wyngarden came up to
me
> >and said, "You realize he just test-flew that machine."
Reading 'The RB Combat Wing' by Kilduff while enroute from Tucson to St.
Louis (in a Fokker no less) when I see that Emil Rolff shot down a Camel on
August 16th flying the new E.V Parasol. Are their any other recorded
victories in this a/c or is this the 'one and only' we know about?
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 22:36:09 -0500
From: Ernest Thomas
To: wwi
Subject: Re: DML Gun Problems
Message-ID: <35624FA9.2004@bellsouth.net>
dandk@mediaone.net wrote:
>
> Greeting all,
> Slightly frustrated newcomer Dave S here with a problem building
> my DML 1/48 guns. As I'm sure some of you know when you first try to put
> these together the gun barrel is slightly too long for the jackets.
> Through my advanced modeling ability I have now made the barrels too
> short for the jackets. I have seen it suggested to use syringe needles
> but living in L.A. the only places I think I could get them really
> aren't safe to go without a WORKING Spandau. I've never tried pulling
> sprue, but it seems hard for a newcomer. Any other ideas? Can anybody
> get the needle tips where they live and sell some to me? As always
> thanks for your time and thanks to Bill and IRA for the great painting
> advice.
> Keep 'em flyin',
> Dave S
> P.S. Tips for drilling/re-attatching the barrel tips would also be
> greatly appreciated.
Dave,
Skip the needles. Just cut the muzzels off right at the point they would
stick out the front plate. then glue a piece of hard wire(same length as
the jacket) inside the jacket along the seam and stick that whole mess
to the gun... chassis?
Attatch the front plates, and then the muzzels and you're done.
Do you drill your barrels? It's not hard, and worth the effort. If you
don't have a tiny drill bit and pin vise, ream em out with a NEW x-acto
blade. You may want to drill the muzzels before you stick them on. Or
better still, before you cut them off the barrels. Good luck.
E.
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 22:40:07 -0500
From: Ernest Thomas
To: wwi
Subject: Re: DML Gun Problems
Message-ID: <35625097.20B2@bellsouth.net>
dandk@mediaone.net wrote:
> Through my advanced modeling ability I have now made the barrels too
> short for the jackets.
how many of us can say that? /%}
E.
again
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 21:31:13 -0700
From: dandk@mediaone.net
To: wwi
Subject: Re: DML Gun Problems/one more time
Message-ID: <35625C91.D23F29F2@mediaone.net>
Thanks E.,
This seems like the way to go. What type/gauge of wire do you use? Good
idea with the x-acto blades. Do you use super-glue to glue the metal parts to
the plastic ones?
Thanks again,
Dave S
> Dave,
> Skip the needles. Just cut the muzzels off right at the point they would
> stick out the front plate. then glue a piece of hard wire(same length as
> the jacket) inside the jacket along the seam and stick that whole mess
> to the gun... chassis?
> Attatch the front plates, and then the muzzels and you're done.
> Do you drill your barrels? It's not hard, and worth the effort. If you
> don't have a tiny drill bit and pin vise, ream em out with a NEW x-acto
> blade. You may want to drill the muzzels before you stick them on. Or
> better still, before you cut them off the barrels. Good luck.
> E.
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 23:43:49 -0500
From: Ernest Thomas
To: wwi
Subject: Re: DML Gun Problems/one more time
Message-ID: <35625F85.3788@bellsouth.net>
dandk@mediaone.net wrote:
>
> Thanks E.,
> This seems like the way to go. What type/gauge of wire do you use? Good
> idea with the x-acto blades. Do you use super-glue to glue the metal parts to
> the plastic ones?
> Thanks again,
> Dave S
I just use whatever (music)wire I have around that's about the same
thickness as the kit barrels. BUt it doesn't HAVE to be music wire. As
long as it's the right size, it doesn't matter what kind of wire(or
sprue)it is. Hard wire is more likely to stay straight while you're
working with it. And yes, I use CA to join metal to plastic.
Happy Spandauing?
Ernest
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 22:49:21 -0700
From: Charles Hart
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Sikorsky S.XVI
Message-ID:
The scale drawings in the FMP Sikorski book are from Russian drafted
originals (I have the original Russian language publication). The scale
bars on the plans are not drawn to English measure, but are metric. I'll
have to check at home, but the larger plans are close to 1/48, the smaller
are not exactly 1/72 IIRC.
Charles
hartc@spot.colorado.edu
>I'm looking at the Dakoplast Sikorsky S.XVI (it came in, Ken). Really
>nice model. It has a great start to the cockpit (some folks might even
>leave it as is :-)). The wing trailing edges are the thinnest from an
>injected kit I have seen. The struts are just about in scale! Options
>include wheels and skis - although those building the ski version will
>have fun. :-)
>
>Decal option is for one aircraft only, and the decals are useable (if
>they're anything like the off-topic Dakoplast kit I build a couple of
>months ago).
>
>Highly recommended.
>
>HOWEVER, I can't be sure if the drawings in the FMP book are in scale,
>but if they are - and the smaller drawings are indeed 1/72nd - then this
>kit is extremely undernourished. Which just goes to show you don't trust
>the drawings. While I only just checked the wing span - both upper and
>lower - the Dakoplast kit spec's almost perfectly using the dimensions in
>the FMP book. I don't know what scale the drawings are, but none of them
>are 1/72nd.
>
>I guess I just typed in my process for figuring out the kits spec's. :-)
>
>
>Matt Bittner
>
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:03:20 +1000 (EST)
From: Mick Fauchon
To: wwi
Cc: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: E.V victory or virtories (?)
Message-ID:
Charles,
> Reading 'The RB Combat Wing' by Kilduff while enroute from Tucson to St.
> Louis (in a Fokker no less) when I see that Emil Rolff shot down a Camel on
> August 16th flying the new E.V Parasol. Are their any other recorded
> victories in this a/c or is this the 'one and only' we know about?
Keep reading, you should find at least a couple more for DVIIIs.
I'll have a look tonight if no-one comes up with anything in the meantime.
Cheers,
Mick.
-- --
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 00:50:00 -0500
From: "Lee Mensinger"
To: wwi, laws@webtime.com.au
Subject: Re: QUARTER SCALE MODELLER
Message-ID: <35626F08.B4537812@wireweb.net>
David R.L. Laws wrote:
> HELLO TO ALL
>
> Any one out there know of this magazine ?
>
> Any general comments, Value for money, general coverage that kind of
> thing ... ?
>
> Do they have a web site - Hot Bot pulled a blank
>
> DAVID
Sorry I didn't send the information sooner. I just found out you wanted
it a few minutes ago. World Price-GBP 30.00 /4 per Annum /Approx 36
pages plus card type covers. January had the first full color cover.
Information seems to be good, Plans are very nice with some really good
details on some items. A bit pricey @ $6.95 US plus shipping and sales
tax. 3 of them are about $25.00 US. I have four ( V1#2>>V2#1) and just
ordered the next three last night. So I guess I like them. A bit more
time will tell.
e-mail/net maybe you can find AIRgen Publications. No net address in
the Magazine. Checks- Make payable to AIRgen Publications.
Quarter Scale Modeler is a British publication and it should be
available in Australia.
Subscriptions and info from
Quarter Scale Modeler
Athena Books
34 Imperial Crescent,
Town Moor, Doncaster, South Yorkshire
DN2 5BU
Let me know if you have any further questions. My regards to Shane
Luck to ya. Lee
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 14:03:52 +0800
From: Joey Valenciano
To: wwi
Subject: Re: Sikorsky S.XVI
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980520140352.006f98f0@philonline.com.ph>
>HOWEVER, I can't be sure if the drawings in the FMP book are in scale,
>but if they are - and the smaller drawings are indeed 1/72nd - then this
>kit is extremely undernourished. Which just goes to show you don't trust
>the drawings.
Take care when working with the drawings in the FMP book, I have a little
story of my own. The Fokker D.III drawing in the A-H book is too big for
1/48. The drawings may be proportionately correct but may need some
shrinking/expanding to get to the proper scale.
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Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician,
joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist
Metro-Manila, Philippines
"The more you know, the more you don't know."
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 15:27:46 +0800
From: Joey Valenciano
To: wwi
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Walter_von_B=FClow-Bothcamp?=
Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980520152746.006f98f0@philonline.com.ph>
Hi all, some questions about WvB-B:
The Luftwaffe set say that he flew in WWII earning a few kill then.
But the Aerodrome website gives the following info:
Name: Walter von B=FClow-Bothcamp
Rank: Leutnant
Squadrons: FA 22, 300, Jasta 2, 18, 36
Victories: 28
Born: 24 April 1894
Died: 6 January 1918
What gives?
Also, does anyone know the colours of this ace's a/c?
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Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician,=20
joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist=20
Metro-Manila, Philippines
"The more you know, the more you don't know."
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Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 01:10:57 -0700
From: Bob Pearson
To: WW1 Mailing list
Subject: Re: Walter von Bulow-Bothcamp
Message-ID: <08105700637515@KAIEN.COM>
Joey,
According to ABOVE THE LINES, it was Harry vB-B that scored in the second
half. He died in 1976
Regards,
Bob Pearson
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> From: Joey Valenciano
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Walter_von_B=FClow-Bothcamp?=
> Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 03:40:50 -0400
>
> Hi all, some questions about WvB-B:
>
> The Luftwaffe set say that he flew in WWII earning a few kill then.
>
> But the Aerodrome website gives the following info:
> Name: Walter von B=FClow-Bothcamp
> Rank: Leutnant
> Squadrons: FA 22, 300, Jasta 2, 18, 36
> Victories: 28
> Born: 24 April 1894
> Died: 6 January 1918
>
> What gives?
> Also, does anyone know the colours of this ace's a/c?
>
>
> *********************************************************************
>
> Joey Valenciano WW1 modeller, teacher, jazz musician,=20
> joeyval@pusit.admu.edu.ph sitarist=20
> Metro-Manila, Philippines
>
> "The more you know, the more you don't know."
>
> *********************************************************************
>
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