I just went by the intersection of Nostrand and Park Place and there is a police van, a bunch of officers and at least two cruisers. The police vehicles were parked in front of the Deli. Whatever happened seemed to attract a fair amount of onlookers. Any idea what occurred?

From what was gathered from a local deli worker: There is a "disco place" around there. (You sometimes see people lined up to get in.) Apparently it got shut down tonight because of too many fights and now the area is filled with kids/people who have been ejected. The cops are there to make sure nothing gets out of hand and people disperse. Or so it has been assumed from witnesses and said deli worker. Maybe other people have more information?

Yeah, my understanding is that the owner doesn't have a liquor license so he books primarily teen parties. The kids purchase alcohol in the neighborhood or bring it from home so many come in drunk or high already.

I knew last night was going to be trouble because when I got home at 7pm there was a line from the front door to the corner of Park Place that was 4 to 5 kids deep. I estimated a couple of hundred kids waiting outside. Since those parties tend to go until 10pm there was no way the place wasn't going to be at capacity.

One of my SO's co-worker's has a son who went to a party there for his 16th birthday. He was drinking, got into a fight and was beaten until unconscious and left in the street. That place is bad news.

I will concur with all the above and add that somebody got "sliced" and hence all the dispursion by the cops. Too bad for the kids, they have nothing to do and a dance seems appropriate for the beginning of a holiday weekend. Apparently they are frisked pretty good before they get in (hearsay) and most of the kids on the street dont seem too impaired on the street. They are just looking for something to do.

I didn't realize that club was so violent! It seems really weird they don't have a liquor license. Does anyone know if they had it and lost it? I just assumed they had a couple under 21 nights.

I've seen the really long lines before but they have always seemed orderly. I know the NYPD has been there to ensure they queue remained clam. Security seemed pretty tight to me or at least on par for many nightclubs in the city.

Homeowner was your coworkers son carried out during the course of the fight? Or did the bouncers just dump him out because they didn't want to deal with calling an ambulance? The latter happens at an alarming rate at clubs and bars across the country.

He was ejected from the club after the fight started, and it continued out it the street. He doesn't remember anything so his mom got the story from his "friends" who were with him.

Every 3-4 months they have a blow-up, but fortunately it seems that most fights are limited to fisticuffs and haven't involved too many guns or knives. I think this is one of the reasons it hasn't gotten a ton of Police interest. My favorite was a couple of years back when the NYPD had skywatch on the corner and some guys ended up fighting UNDER the tower. Over the last couple of years they seem to be focusing on younger crowds including the LGBT teen community.

Between this place and Secrets it makes for some interesting Sunday mornings on the Avenue.

I couldn't find a current listing for the property, but was able to get some data from the last time it was listed. Combined, the two stories have about 13,000 sq ft. ...since we are just talking about the second floor, we are talking 6500 sq ft.

Having been inside when it originally opened as Cafe 400, I can tell you that the place is perfect for a sports bar. Other uses that could work would be dance studio, yoga studio, small gym, or any other business that would utilize an open floor plan. I could even see small live music/spoken word/entertainment venue. Whatever it becomes, I hope the days of teens fighting in the streets are behind it. That place deserves so much more.

loopnet wrote: Shaun Riney and Matt Fotis of Marcus & Millichap are pleased to offer 713 Nostrand Avenue, located on the corner of Sterling Place in the North Crown Heights section of Brooklyn, NY. The subject property is a 2-story commercial building that consists of 7 ground floor retail units, approximately 4,000 square feet of second floor space and approximately 3,800 square feet of usable cellar space with approximately 10-12 foot ceiling heights. The property is built full and sits on a 100 ft x 43.5 ft lot with approximately 12,413 gross square feet. The property is zoned C4-3 allowing for approximately 6,090 square feet of available air rights which can be used for both residential and commercial use. (Block: 1241, Lot: 79).

Currently the property' s certificate of occupancy indicates use for stores on the ground floor and eating/drinking place without restrictions that can accommodate up to 680 people on the second floor and cellar. Recently a sprinkler system was installed for the second floor and cellar space.

This property offers investors the rare opportunity to purchase a large mixed use tax payer with 100 feet of frontage on Nostrand Avenue, available air rights and the ability to convert a portion of the square footage to residential use in the North Crown Heights section of Brooklyn, New York.

I suspect that the area could now support an upscale vegetable/prepared foods market; said entity could use the entire first floor and the cellar. Something like Union Market, but not quite that upscale/pricey.

Nix on the drugstore. Gee how much product do you use? The are huge drug stores on St. Johns, Restoration Plaza, and Fulton and Nostrand. Do we need one on Every Corner? Nostrand needs Something interesting and foodie before we get all chain store like and completely kill any chance of having anything good.

Well let me get my pencil out and draw a diagram, Yes 100 X 43 may be 2 residential lots in the middle of the block. but this is a corner building and commercial to boot, and there are 7 storefronts on Nostrand, and as some corner buildings go you get shafted in the backyard department so in this case frontage really does count. Thanks for the dog food donation BTW :salut:

Ah, tsarina, it is not my immense need for product that makes me want a big, fancy drugstore -- admittedly, it is the convenience that this location would offer within a block from home. Sometimes I feel like a lazybones and don't want to haul out to Restoration Plaza or St John's or Fulton.

But you are right. An interesting foodie place or intriguing local Brooklyn artisan would be much preferred to the start of a million chain stores on Nostrand. I'd love for something like Bob & Betty's to come to Nostrand SOON.

From your lips to gods ears. The first Foodie deli with good fruits and veggies and healthy snacks gets all my extra spending money. sometimes I;m too tired to schlep over to Franklin. I have begged the Pine Tree people to expand over here.

Funny you mention a Gym would be awesome and the space is HUGE, it legally fits couple hundred. The landlord is the same since June ( thats when I meet him not sure how much longer he was there) and I really like him. Super nice guy very business oriented and cares about his tenants and from what I have spoken to local business owners they also like the guy.