(22-01-2013 09:02 PM)dustinmciver Wrote: Have you ever looked at the Hubble deep space telescope and and view the thousands of galaxies holding 200
billion to trillions of stars and just think to yourself with true logic? Many scholars "wise men" repeatedly
come together with the idea of creating and than
re-creating a theory, a theory that the universe created itself out of nothing
at all, it was a simple mistake, a error that should of never occurred,
a number of atoms with a density larger then anything that can be
conceived, that never before existed suddenly did. Then with a sudden
eruption of atoms that never existed a millisecond before, without any
reason at all, crashed together FASTER then the speed of light and Boom!
At a temp of "Infinite" degrees as well, created a Time
forming, consistently expanding mind boggling universe with its own set
of universal laws from nothing that existed a tenth of a second
beforehand.

Science and astrology are consistently evolving,
in fact as more information is gained, past "Theory" is discarded for a
new Theory, and Almost deemed a "fact" bye the most educated people on the planet, so long as
they are educated on specific matters, not all of them directly. Then, just like
previous theory's are taught amongst the people to be the truth. They are
eventually disproved over time as history has shown, and are forced
to be re-evaluated. Somehow, the only appropriate ingredient for this
Universe is left out of this equation because Science and God can't be
part of the same equation because that would be politically incorrect,
the laws of faulty man made" education" demand God can't be part of this
equation, yet education threw theory has many times over, proven itself
to be wrong bye its own means of study. Now Astrologist/ the whole 9 yards are aiming at
the Theory of "Intelligent design" meaning Some "Divine Entity" made
the universe, it was not a accident, meaning chances are if you thought
the big bang theory was correct, modern day "science" in a few years
will say your wrong but in no way God will get credit.

Ironically, The God in the Bible, the one many people simply deny as the only credible factor for the universes being, makes
some issues clear on the subject and are rather so simple to understand
its almost hard to grasp, one would think it would be far more
complicated, when it is very much the opposite. The math is simple.
Something can't exist without a creator, even atoms and dark matter.

The only thing that is excluded from that is God
and he knows all, both past, present and future. God the piece of a puzzle that
makes the impossible, very possible, one must openly think like during a game of chess and truly think for himself. People
say - "Well how can God exist if everything needs to be created?!
Wouldn't God himself need to be created?" The answer is no, because God
is the simple exclusion from the necessary universal equation that makes ALL THE OTHER
EQUATIONS POSSIBLE. God is part of the mathematical necessity required
to make all other things outside of itself possible, and that origin,
that "Entity" is absolutely required for anything and everything to
exist. It Must be Eternal and before everything in order for anything to
exist, it must be eternally intelligent knowing the past and future at
all times. In indefiniteness and in every direction, The human brain
simply can't compute such a thing, even remotely.

__________________________________________

Romans 1:18- 28 - The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven
against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth
by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to
them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of
the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine
nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been
made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew God, they
neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking
became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they
claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the
immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and
animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires
of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies
with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and
worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is
forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful
lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and
were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts
with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their
perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to
retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do
what ought not to be done.

The Next question is "well how do I
pick the right religion? There are thousands. And whats interesting
about them is ALL of them demand you can only get into heaven based off a
unknown factor of good works, that's right, all of them even TRUE
Roman Catholicism "If im generally good ill go to heaven." The only
religion that excludes that is the Bible Directly taken in appropriate
context claiming threw Jesus Christ ALONE you can get into heaven. One
must still repent, One must make a subconscious choice to at best
attempt to subdue a rather uncontrollable human instinct to rebel
against God and just be a general piece of crap in everyday life, truth
is according to God we all deserve to go to hell, I personally deserve
to burn in hell forever and I know it. But threw grace alone, threw God
knowing we are unable to resist we have a chance, at least in life, to
resist our human temptations, it takes time, but it is possible. Try not
to do a single bad thing for 1 day and you will fail, you will fail
every single day because God says you will, its impossible, even for the
best of human minds, even your thoughts are worthy of being cast into
Eternal Hell forever. Yet God knows your Mind, he knows you better then
you know yourself, if you try to resist and pray for forgiveness yet you
still fail, God knows your heart and will forgive you if you actually
mean it. God knows it takes time, God knows wars are not easily won
against your own instinct, so he is forgiving even of the most ville of
crimes against himself or other people. Gods level of forgiveness is
unlimited, but can't be played because God knows all.

"I am
the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except
through me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well.
From now on, you do know him and have seen him. Philip said, "Lord, show
us the Father and that will be enough for us."Jesus answered: "Don't
you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time?
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us
the Father'? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the
Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it
is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I
say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or at least believe
on the evidence of the miracles themselves."

Can somebody give me an abridged version of this, so I can laugh too?

The people closely associated with the namesake of female canines are suffering from a nondescript form of lunacy.
"Anti-environmentalism is like standing in front of a forest and going 'quick kill them they're coming right for us!'" - Jake Farr-Wharton, The Imaginary Friend Show.

(22-01-2013 09:02 PM)dustinmciver Wrote: Have you ever looked at the Hubble deep space telescope and and view the thousands of galaxies holding 200
billion to trillions of stars and just think to yourself with true logic? Many scholars "wise men" repeatedly
come together with the idea of creating and than
re-creating a theory, a theory that the universe created itself out of nothing
at all, it was a simple mistake, a error that should of never occurred,
a number of atoms with a density larger then anything that can be
conceived, that never before existed suddenly did. Then with a sudden
eruption of atoms that never existed a millisecond before, without any
reason at all, crashed together FASTER then the speed of light and Boom!
At a temp of "Infinite" degrees as well, created a Time
forming, consistently expanding mind boggling universe with its own set
of universal laws from nothing that existed a tenth of a second
beforehand.

Science and astrology are consistently evolving,
in fact as more information is gained, past "Theory" is discarded for a
new Theory, and Almost deemed a "fact" bye the most educated people on the planet, so long as
they are educated on specific matters, not all of them directly. Then, just like
previous theory's are taught amongst the people to be the truth. They are
eventually disproved over time as history has shown, and are forced
to be re-evaluated. Somehow, the only appropriate ingredient for this
Universe is left out of this equation because Science and God can't be
part of the same equation because that would be politically incorrect,
the laws of faulty man made" education" demand God can't be part of this
equation, yet education threw theory has many times over, proven itself
to be wrong bye its own means of study. Now Astrologist/ the whole 9 yards are aiming at
the Theory of "Intelligent design" meaning Some "Divine Entity" made
the universe, it was not a accident, meaning chances are if you thought
the big bang theory was correct, modern day "science" in a few years
will say your wrong but in no way God will get credit.

Ironically, The God in the Bible, the one many people simply deny as the only credible factor for the universes being, makes
some issues clear on the subject and are rather so simple to understand
its almost hard to grasp, one would think it would be far more
complicated, when it is very much the opposite. The math is simple.
Something can't exist without a creator, even atoms and dark matter.

The only thing that is excluded from that is God
and he knows all, both past, present and future. God the piece of a puzzle that
makes the impossible, very possible, one must openly think like during a game of chess and truly think for himself. People
say - "Well how can God exist if everything needs to be created?!
Wouldn't God himself need to be created?" The answer is no, because God
is the simple exclusion from the necessary universal equation that makes ALL THE OTHER
EQUATIONS POSSIBLE. God is part of the mathematical necessity required
to make all other things outside of itself possible, and that origin,
that "Entity" is absolutely required for anything and everything to
exist. It Must be Eternal and before everything in order for anything to
exist, it must be eternally intelligent knowing the past and future at
all times. In indefiniteness and in every direction, The human brain
simply can't compute such a thing, even remotely.

__________________________________________

Romans 1:18- 28 - The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven
against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth
by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to
them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of
the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine
nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been
made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew God, they
neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking
became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they
claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the
immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and
animals and reptiles. Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires
of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies
with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and
worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is
forever praised. Amen. Because of this, God gave them over to shameful
lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.
In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and
were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts
with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their
perversion. Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to
retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do
what ought not to be done.

The Next question is "well how do I
pick the right religion? There are thousands. And whats interesting
about them is ALL of them demand you can only get into heaven based off a
unknown factor of good works, that's right, all of them even TRUE
Roman Catholicism "If im generally good ill go to heaven." The only
religion that excludes that is the Bible Directly taken in appropriate
context claiming threw Jesus Christ ALONE you can get into heaven. One
must still repent, One must make a subconscious choice to at best
attempt to subdue a rather uncontrollable human instinct to rebel
against God and just be a general piece of crap in everyday life, truth
is according to God we all deserve to go to hell, I personally deserve
to burn in hell forever and I know it. But threw grace alone, threw God
knowing we are unable to resist we have a chance, at least in life, to
resist our human temptations, it takes time, but it is possible. Try not
to do a single bad thing for 1 day and you will fail, you will fail
every single day because God says you will, its impossible, even for the
best of human minds, even your thoughts are worthy of being cast into
Eternal Hell forever. Yet God knows your Mind, he knows you better then
you know yourself, if you try to resist and pray for forgiveness yet you
still fail, God knows your heart and will forgive you if you actually
mean it. God knows it takes time, God knows wars are not easily won
against your own instinct, so he is forgiving even of the most ville of
crimes against himself or other people. Gods level of forgiveness is
unlimited, but can't be played because God knows all.

"I am
the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except
through me. If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well.
From now on, you do know him and have seen him. Philip said, "Lord, show
us the Father and that will be enough for us."Jesus answered: "Don't
you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time?
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us
the Father'? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the
Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it
is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. Believe me when I
say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or at least believe
on the evidence of the miracles themselves."

Can somebody give me an abridged version of this, so I can laugh too?

Here you go:

...theory that the universe created itself out of nothing...a simple mistake...Science and astrology are consistently evolving...Science and God can't be part of the same equation ...

Something can't exist without a creator, even atoms and dark matter.

God the piece of a puzzle that makes the impossible, very possible...

and some Bible verses.

Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.

The people closely associated with the namesake of female canines are suffering from a nondescript form of lunacy.
"Anti-environmentalism is like standing in front of a forest and going 'quick kill them they're coming right for us!'" - Jake Farr-Wharton, The Imaginary Friend Show.

(23-01-2013 07:35 AM)bemore Wrote: I ran some of it through google. I dont know where it was pasted from but I cant see the original anywhere

I know that he copied and pasted it because of the formatting of his post. If you type in a post manually, each line ends at the forum's layout, given that you have typed enough words. However, if you copy and paste a text from somewhere, it ends up looking like this (an excerpt from a Wikipedia article):

Winter depression is a common slump in the mood of some inhabitants of most of the Nordic countries. It was first described by the 6th century Goth scholar Jordanes in his Getica wherein he described the inhabitants of Scandza (Scandinavia).[47]
Iceland, however, seems to be an exception. A study of more than 2000
people there found the prevalence of seasonal affective disorder and
seasonal changes in anxiety and depression to be unexpectedly low in both sexes.[48]
The study's authors suggested that propensity for SAD may differ due to
some genetic factor within the Icelandic population. A study of
Canadians of wholly Icelandic descent also showed low levels of SAD.[49]
It has more recently been suggested that this may be attributed to the
large amount of fish traditionally eaten by Icelandic people, in 2007
about 90 kilograms per person per year as opposed to about 24 kg in the
US and Canada,[50]
rather than to genetic predisposition; a similar anomaly is noted in
Japan, where annual fish consumption in recent years averages about
60 kg per capita.[51] Fish are high in vitamin D. Fish also contain docosahexaenoic acid (DHA), which has been shown to help with a variety of neurological dysfunctions.[52]