> Today's Morning Edition featured an interview with the WashPost
> article's author. He made mention that one of the sites was up
> to date, technology-wise, as it had on-going military ops.

My educated guess, based on the nature of the threat and some open-source
tidbits about visible measures being taken at the places lead me to believe
the two sites in question are the two well-known (to anyone with a modicum of
interest in COG & C3,I) large ones in the region set up in the 1950s for just
such a purpose, and not any previously unknown 'black' sites.

Not to imply the black sites aren't involved, though.

Tim

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ozob99

... and that ... I suspect FEMA has been put in a supporting role of COG in recent years;with it s bad press, preoccupation with natural disasters,&

I suspect FEMA has been put in a supporting role of COG in recent
years;with it's bad press, preoccupation with natural disasters,&
congressional concerns about to much power in national emergencies
(like many websites have suggested).

I don't think there is any doubt that Mt. Weather was the HQ of a
shadow gov't from the 1950's on, & probably still is; with todays
comms capabilities there is no need for a fixed alternate central
location , so multiple locations,including portable/mobile,networked
together seem more viable to insure the continuity of the COG
mission.

ABC World News Tonight reports that VP Cheney s undisclosed location is not one of the two shadow government locations; the VP site was described as being

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ABC World News Tonight reports that VP Cheney's "undisclosed location" is
not one of the two "shadow government" locations; the VP site was described
as being plusher and having better communications.

Albert

Rick C.

Anybody catch (or watch the repeats later) the News with Brian Williams and its first story on MSNBC/CNBC tonight? They had footage of government officials on

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Anybody catch (or watch the repeats later) the News with Brian Williams and
its first story on MSNBC/CNBC tonight? They had footage of government
officials on Sept. 11 going into an underground bunker. The entrance was a
simple, maybe 10 x 10 brick single story building, that appeared to be
rather by itself in an open area. Any clues to where they were?
Also, they mentioned a military command center in West Virginia, that was
no longer used. I am guessing they meant the Greenbriar (the pictures
looked similar) - but could it be something else?

Rick

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ewilson1234

cnn.com has an article about the interview. They did mentiont the two bunkers and also the one under the Whitehouse. They also made a mention of the FEMA CoG

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cnn.com has an article about the interview. They did mentiont the two
bunkers and also the one under the Whitehouse. They also made a
mention of the FEMA CoG tie in and had a link to FAS with some FEMA
into.

Oddly, the FEMA info/link is no longer in the article...

go2theglow

Yup, I caught that,. Also Friday morning Good Morning America intervied the Washington Post reported who broke the story and he eluded that he knew where

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Yup, I caught that,. Also Friday morning Good Morning America
intervied the Washington Post reported who "broke" the story and he
eluded that he knew where the location of the bunkers were. He more
or less said that the Washington Post had agreeded not to disclose
the undisclosed location :) It makes you wonder how secret a location
in can be if camera crew can photo. One of the army people was
looking right in the camera. My guess is that this was file footage.

Joel

--- In coldwarcomms@y..., "Rick C." <rickchem@h...> wrote:
> Anybody catch (or watch the repeats later) the News with Brian
Williams and
> its first story on MSNBC/CNBC tonight? They had footage of
government
> officials on Sept. 11 going into an underground bunker. The
entrance was a
> simple, maybe 10 x 10 brick single story building, that appeared to
be
> rather by itself in an open area. Any clues to where they were?
<snip>

> I suspect FEMA has been put in a supporting role of COG in recent
> years;with it's bad press, preoccupation with natural disasters,&
> congressional concerns about to much power in national emergencies
> (like many websites have suggested).

I think that's very likely, for all the reasons you cite. There's some
irony in FEMA's shifting their focus (at least publicly) to natural-disaster
mitigation, since the present threat demands something much more like the
"old FEMA" Cold War mission. In fact, it could be argued that assets like
Mt. Weather are actually *more* useful in today's situation than they were
in the later years of the Cold War.

> I don't think there is any doubt that Mt. Weather was the HQ of a
> shadow gov't from the 1950's on, & probably still is; with todays
> comms capabilities there is no need for a fixed alternate central
> location , so multiple locations,including portable/mobile,networked
> together seem more viable to insure the continuity of the COG
> mission.

Yes, it's my understanding that Mt. Weather was specifically built to be the
hub of the executive-branch emergency relocation sites in the Federal Arc,
with the Interagency Communications System providing links between those
sites and "High Point".

I think if CoG planners were starting from scratch today in designing a
relocation scheme for a nuclear-attack scenario, they might well go with a
concept based almost entirely on mobile facilities, scattered around the
country at various low-risk target areas.

Albert

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