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that figures, i think this was fixed the day after i posted about it LOL

Now the clients pick up what the tv can do, thats awesome, saves a bunch of time.

Also they changed the guide first to default again THANK YOU!!!!!

Though in a related "curiosity" I guess, under the hidden "Miscellaneous Options" feature in an HD receiver menu, used for reasons I can't get into here . It list the supported TV resolutions a receiver automatically detects over an HDMI connection.

Yet 480i is never listed as one of them, which of course any HDTV obviously has. The list always starts at 480p and then up from there.

Not 100% true, there are many brand/models of HDTV's that do not support 480i over HDMI.

Well all mine in the home do , yet none of the HD receivers here list indicate 480i as a supported resolution under "Misc. Options." Inconsequential of course, but still a curiosity.

However, thanks for the correction. While obviously as "HD" in the name HDMI states its mainly for high definition signals, I really thought all HDTVs nevertheless support something as basic as a 480i SD input over the HDMI connection.

Though in a related "curiosity" I guess, under the hidden "Miscellaneous Options" feature in an HD receiver menu, used for reasons I can't get into here . It list the supported TV resolutions a receiver automatically detects over an HDMI connection.

Yet 480i is never listed as one of them, which of course any HDTV obviously has. The list always starts at 480p and then up from there.

Which is probrably related to the problem of the box starting up in 480p mode which is a truly bad idea, some of the tvs i hook up component but can only do 480i, every time the receiver restarts they have what appears to be a scrambled video signal on the tv till it reverts to 480i once loaded. And yes those tvs do look better hooked up component rather than composite. T