<quoted text>Just a few of the roadblocks: Independent producers will spend $1.50 drilling this year for every dollar they get back. Shale output drops faster than production from conventional methods. It will take 2,500 new wells a year just to sustain output of 1 million barrels a day in North Dakota’s Bakken shale, according to the Paris-based International Energy Agency. Iraq could do the same with 60.Consider Sanchez Energy Corp. The Houston-based company plans to spend as much as $600 million this year, almost double its estimated 2013 revenue, on the Eagle Ford shale formation in south Texas, which along with North Dakota is one of the hotbeds of a drilling frenzy that’s pushed U.S. crude output to the highest in almost 26 years. Its Sante North 1H oil well pumped five times more water than crude, Sanchez Energy said in a Feb. 17 regulatory filing. Shares sank 7 percent.Drillers are pushing to maintain the pace of the unprecedented 39 percent gain in U.S. oil production since the end of 2011. Yet achieving U.S. energy self-sufficiency depends on easy credit and oil prices high enough to cover well costs. Even with crude above $100 a barrel, shale producers are spending money faster than they make it.Much more at link.How long can oil companies spend more than they make selling the oil?http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-27/drea...

When the new energy becomes more cheap and efficient than fossil fuels, these fuels will be a thing of the past, but not until then.

<quoted text>The U.S. population is projected to increase by nearly 130 million people - the equivalent of adding another four states the size of California - by the year 2050.Americans eat 815 billion calories of food each day - that's roughly 200 billion more than needed - enough to feed 80 million people.Americans throw out 200,000 tons of edible food daily.The average American generates 52 tons of garbage by age 75.The average individual daily consumption of water is 159 gallons, while more than half the world's population lives on 25 gallons.Fifty percent of the U.S. wetlands, 90% of the northwestern old-growth forests, and 99% of the tall-grass prairie have been destroyed in the last 200 years.Eighty percent of the corn grown and 95% of the oats are fed to livestock.Fifty-six percent of available farmland is used for beef production.Every day an estimated nine square miles of rural land are lost to development.http://www.mindfully.org/Sustainability/Ameri...Do you find this Disgusting, Interesting, Incredible or Okay?

<quoted text>Reducing consumption without reducing use is a costly delusion. If undeveloped countries consumed at the same rate as the US, four complete planets the size of the Earth would be required. People who think that they have a right to such a life are quite mistaken.http://www.mindfully.org/Sustainability/Ameri...

LOL… So government needs to force others to think like you… through the same propaganda?

The US is the most successful Country in all of human history and it’s NOT because of it’s government.

<quoted text>The planet requires eighteen months to regenerate what Americans consume in twelve.This is unsustainable.You are pro big oil, argue against solar power, electric automobiles and deny climate change science...You are vehemently against abortion even though the planet is over populated and Forty percent of births in the U.S. ALONE are unintended.You my friend are delusional and GREEDY beyond belief!Now, look up some 2000+ year old scripture to back your radical theory's......

I’m not the one who is delusional… Nor am I the one who is in support of stealing from future generations to pay for government to invest in failing renewable energy companies… Talk about greed! A 18 trillion dollar debt is MORE unsustainable than your claims.

<quoted text>LOL… So government needs to force others to think like you… through the same propaganda?The US is the most successful Country in all of human history and it’s NOT because of it’s government.

In the above post's (of mine) there was NO MENTION of ANY Government intervention....Deciding to live ones life with less waste and a smaller carbon footprint can be done BY YOU and how YOU live and what you want to leave behind for future generations Trees or Trash IT IS UP TO YOU.

<quoted text>LOL… So government needs to force others to think like you… through the same propaganda?The US is the most successful Country in all of human history and it’s NOT because of it’s government.

There you go demonizing THE BEST FORM of GOVERNMENT is the HISTORY of the PLANET!!!! Very Patriotic of you!

<quoted text>I’m not sure I would classify it as greed… It’s choice and ability. Truly it’s the same with wealth… Although I have had run-ins with truly greedy people a majority of wealthy folks in America are humbled and thankful for all the opportunities that God has provide to them… That said I know greedy poor people. People who milk the system for cash and benefits and do very little work… Ask for donations and spend it on 150 dollar shoes… I acknowledge greed exists, however because the US consumes 25% on the worlds fossil fuels is by no means greedy.

At times You are at the edge of logical reality but you can't seem to apply it. That probably made no sense loll. I can feel you thinking as you wrote this and you made what could be a good response except it is still tit for tat. It is the big picture you seem to miss.

That 25% is as greedy as it gets and was a perfect example. It is not simply how much more we use, it is how much more we pollute, how much more we become involved with insane countries, How much more we are effecting the entire planets environment and all due to Americans refusal to take responsibility and act on it. THAT IS GREED!

It is greed to get in to a 10mph vehicle to go down the block and mail a letter. It is greed to refuse to do the simple things that can bring down our use of fossil fuels. Right wingers are bitching and moaning about people getting government aid (like you did above) calling them lazy but they sure as hell won't be seen riding a bike, taking a bus, and God forbid...WALKING!!! These things are not what I expect from people but I know they can use a 50cc bike like I do. It is my favorite means of transportation even over my nice 750 Honda. I look stupid on it which is why others won't buy them but "Looking stupid" just makes my point stronger. You won't find an eastern nation who thinks they look stupid. These little bikes are the slickest ride you can imagine. Sit down, turn a key, and fly away. Only one gear so no transmission, the only thing you have to do is turn the throttle. Oh, and occasionally pull on the brake.

BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY!!! LOLL!

My point is that to change enough to be in line with what other countries use is simple and at times fun yet Americans will NOT do it. THAT IS GREED!!!

OMG!!! This is so much bigger than you obviously know. How can you make it so petty? If you were born in a country that flows oil like water and your life style is a thousand years old, there is no job to be had, and you get your water from a well, how would you feel? From the 1950's until the 90's most of those people had no idea what was happening. Then along comes TV and then the computer and those people started waking up!!! I know Saudi Arabia used to give every citizen money from oil profits. I think they still do. That was smart. But GREED ran to many other countries and GREED runs the USA so we have this terrible mess that we don't know what to do about. ISIS is a result of GREED and NOT religion. Religion is the cover story like it always is. The proof is in their actions. They couldn't care less about which religious sect is which as long as the one they belong to reaps the profits from the oil that we use to much of!!!

<quoted text> In the above post's (of mine) there was NO MENTION of ANY Government intervention....Deciding to live ones life with less waste and a smaller carbon footprint can be done BY YOU and how YOU live and what you want to leave behind for future generations Trees or Trash IT IS UP TO YOU.

Good to hear you say and that you don’t support policies like “cap and trade” to reduce carbon emissions, and freedom is the most important thing to you.

<quoted text>There you go demonizing THE BEST FORM of GOVERNMENT is the HISTORY of the PLANET!!!! Very Patriotic of you!Which has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DISCUSSION...I MIGHT ADD!

LOL.. Demonizing? How so? So to you government stealing from future generations of Americans to fund failing green energy companies is and forcing ALL Americans to purchase health insurances is patriotic?

<quoted text>At times You are at the edge of logical reality but you can't seem to apply it. That probably made no sense loll. I can feel you thinking as you wrote this and you made what could be a good response except it is still tit for tat. It is the big picture you seem to miss.That 25% is as greedy as it gets and was a perfect example. It is not simply how much more we use, it is how much more we pollute, how much more we become involved with insane countries, How much more we are effecting the entire planets environment and all due to Americans refusal to take responsibility and act on it. THAT IS GREED!It is greed to get in to a 10mph vehicle to go down the block and mail a letter. It is greed to refuse to do the simple things that can bring down our use of fossil fuels. Right wingers are bitching and moaning about people getting government aid (like you did above) calling them lazy but they sure as hell won't be seen riding a bike, taking a bus, and God forbid...WALKING!!! These things are not what I expect from people but I know they can use a 50cc bike like I do. It is my favorite means of transportation even over my nice 750 Honda. I look stupid on it which is why others won't buy them but "Looking stupid" just makes my point stronger. You won't find an eastern nation who thinks they look stupid. These little bikes are the slickest ride you can imagine. Sit down, turn a key, and fly away. Only one gear so no transmission, the only thing you have to do is turn the throttle. Oh, and occasionally pull on the brake.BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY!!! LOLL!My point is that to change enough to be in line with what other countries use is simple and at times fun yet Americans will NOT do it. THAT IS GREED!!!OMG!!! This is so much bigger than you obviously know. How can you make it so petty? If you were born in a country that flows oil like water and your life style is a thousand years old, there is no job to be had, and you get your water from a well, how would you feel? From the 1950's until the 90's most of those people had no idea what was happening. Then along comes TV and then the computer and those people started waking up!!! I know Saudi Arabia used to give every citizen money from oil profits. I think they still do. That was smart. But GREED ran to many other countries and GREED runs the USA so we have this terrible mess that we don't know what to do about. ISIS is a result of GREED and NOT religion. Religion is the cover story like it always is. The proof is in their actions. They couldn't care less about which religious sect is which as long as the one they belong to reaps the profits from the oil that we use to much of!!!SO YES, 25% IS BEING GREEDY!!!

We have resources that we use and based on what you believe it’s greedy to do so base on the approval of the rest of the world? That doesn’t make sense.

Try heating your home without fossil fuels, only walking to work, the grocery store, the mall, don’t use your plastic containers, your refrigerator, or your oven to cook your food and see how easy your life will be… It’s’ not greed, it’s the ability to have a lifestyle that is simpler because of human ingenuity and innovation…

<quoted text>The U.S. population is projected to increase by nearly 130 million people - the equivalent of adding another four states the size of California - by the year 2050.Americans eat 815 billion calories of food each day - that's roughly 200 billion more than needed - enough to feed 80 million people.Americans throw out 200,000 tons of edible food daily.The average American generates 52 tons of garbage by age 75.The average individual daily consumption of water is 159 gallons, while more than half the world's population lives on 25 gallons.Fifty percent of the U.S. wetlands, 90% of the northwestern old-growth forests, and 99% of the tall-grass prairie have been destroyed in the last 200 years.Eighty percent of the corn grown and 95% of the oats are fed to livestock.Fifty-six percent of available farmland is used for beef production.Every day an estimated nine square miles of rural land are lost to development.http://www.mindfully.org/Sustainability/Ameri...Do you find this Disgusting, Interesting, Incredible or Okay?

<quoted text>LOL… So government needs to force others to think like you… through the same propaganda?The US is the most successful Country in all of human history and it’s NOT because of it’s government.

It does depend on your definition of successful.

If you mean 'biggest influence on the world' then you are competing with several huge, historical empires.

If you mean 'most powerful army' then this is only really true because of modern technology, which is a bit of a cheat.

If you mean 'best standard of living', or 'happiness of citizens', then there are present day nations that beat the States, let alone going back into the historical record.

So, if anyone really believes this is true, then what do you base it on? I'm interested.

<quoted text>We have resources that we use and based on what you believe it’s greedy to do so base on the approval of the rest of the world? That doesn’t make sense.Try heating your home without fossil fuels, only walking to work, the grocery store, the mall, don’t use your plastic containers, your refrigerator, or your oven to cook your food and see how easy your life will be… It’s’ not greed, it’s the ability to have a lifestyle that is simpler because of human ingenuity and innovation…

So why do you want to stop dead in it's tracks all future human ingenuity and innovation?

<quoted text>ROFLMAO, Coal was not a cheaper energy source then the wood it replaced. It became cheaper as more people switched to burning coal and better ways of getting the energy from coal were discovered.

ROFLMAO, as compared to the efficiency of wood to coal, it absolutely was and still is cheaper and much more efficient which is why it is cheaper.

<quoted text>ROFLMAO, Coal was not a cheaper energy source then the wood it replaced. It became cheaper as more people switched to burning coal and better ways of getting the energy from coal were discovered.

<quoted text>We have resources that we use and based on what you believe it’s greedy to do so base on the approval of the rest of the world? That doesn’t make sense.Try heating your home without fossil fuels, only walking to work, the grocery store, the mall, don’t use your plastic containers, your refrigerator, or your oven to cook your food and see how easy your life will be… It’s’ not greed, it’s the ability to have a lifestyle that is simpler because of human ingenuity and innovation…

Did I not just totally take the upper hand in a post that you made saying almost the exact same thing? A post that you could not reply to since it showed you that I already am in control of such things!

Respect, part of a discussion is LISTENNING to what the other person has to say and addressing what you hear. You carry on a one person discussion with yourself. Every decent point I have made when talking with you has been ignored. As a matter of fact we had this very thing come up already and you never said anything to me about it. Then, sure enough, everything is back to the way it was with you commenting about the particles, minute pieces, of what someone says after rearranging the words to fit your reply.

YOU TALK TO YOURSELF! ALSO, YOU ONLY LISTEN TO YOURSELF!

No wonder you don't learn from discussions. You already know all that you know!!!

Alin Badillo-Carrillo and her bisexual girlfriend Yeshet Gobena would be placed in a spaceship and launched out of the solar system if I ruled the planet, in my humble opinion if it where up to me to save the human race from extinction. Alin Badillo Carrillo and Yeshet Gobena AKA Yeshet Eddie would each be marooned on a different planet outside the solar system just like in the movie Interstellar.

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