We've begun updating TiVo Stream for out-of-home streaming

I wonder if it was based on purchase date? I bought my stream as part of that initial "contest" offer. I didn't actually "win" the contest but someone on here did and posted a copy of the email so I called in an lied and it worked. So mine was one of the first 600 ever made.

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could also be by serial number, mine was purchased day one at best buy.

Pointing to WW market share is immaterial, that has been flogged to death in the other thread. Android numbers are larger, but not all android devices are (or will be) capable of streaming.

You need to look at share in countries where Tivo is sold and look at the capabilities of the devices. This tells a different story.

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With the new 4.4 KitKat having been designed for legacy devices still running gingerbread and as little ram as 512M and soon rolling out world wide (yes some devices using TI dsp chips will be left behind) it is your argument that is without merit.

Implementing the age old concept of paged memory in legacy devices with limited ram may be slow but like the days of DOS/EEMS micro processors can extend their life and run more complex software.

I think his point is that if you look at the numbers in the context of devices deployed in the US (only place the TiVo Stream works), that are running the proper OS (4.2+) and actually have hardware capable of playing video they don't favor Android quite as much as they might seem. But in any case TiVo is working on the Android version. I'm sure they'll release it as soon as it's ready. No amount of complaining is going to speed it up.

I am not defending the lack of andriod support (I have both platforms), only trying to explain that numbers can be deceiving. Andriod numbers include a large number of phone devices in developing nations that do not have the capability to render the video nor access to the device.

I was in Europe last week, in Barcelona there seemed to be more andriod than iOS (yes, I was seriously watching this for an unrelated purpose) but when I landed back in the US things were overwhelmingly iOS. Not scientific, but it illustrates my point.

Awesome for apple people, the worldwide market majority share of tablets and phones belongs to android, not apple though. All of my devices are at least jelly bean 4.2.2. I would love to want a tivo stream, yet it's currently a waste of money.

When can I expect to really want a stream?

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TiVo treats Android the same as Google does. By first releasing on iOS and then at a later date for Android.

The TiVo Stream uses encrypted HLS. HLS is only properly supported on Android 4.2+. So unless they completely change how the Stream works between now and the Adroid release, then you're going to need Android 4.2+.

All streaming video is not equal. TiVo is transcoding protected content procured from a CableCARD. They have to use a technology that is approved by Cable Labs. Sling is exploiting the analog hole and does not have to adhere to anything.

Best Buy has them on clearance and they just had another clearance price drop on Thursday. Two stores in my area have them for $67.99 and one store has it for $69.99. A check of several other zip codes show quite a few Best Buys have them on clearance.

You can check online (select a store and select clearance items). If you go into a Best Buy and they are tagged at a higher price, get someone to scan it and it should come up at the clearance price (sometimes the tags don't get changed).

Best Buy has them on clearance and they just had another clearance price drop on Thursday. Two stores in my area have them for $67.99 and one store has it for $69.99. A check of several other zip codes show quite a few Best Buys have them on clearance.

You can check online (select a store and select clearance items). If you go into a Best Buy and they are tagged at a higher price, get someone to scan it and it should come up at the clearance price (sometimes the tags don't get changed).

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That doesn't make any sense to me, unless they have way too many of them in their warehouses. After all, you still *need* one to have streaming support with the base Roamio model, right?

...or the aliens have landed and the end of the world is tomorrow at precisely 4:17pm EST and Best Buy, secretly owned by the aliens for years and angry about the fall of the big box retail model, is trying to eek the last few dollars out of the sheeple before total destruction.

I hear they also own Blockbuster video, but that is a different story.

...or the aliens have landed and the end of the world is tomorrow at precisely 4:17pm EST and Best Buy (secretly owned by the aliens for years) is trying to eek the last few dollars out of the sheeple before total destruction.

It's possible!

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I don't really have any reason to care, since I don't own any iProducts, or even any android ones.

Do you at least have an opinion on a *logical* reason that BB would be clearancing them out?