A steroid test costs at its cheapest £160 bring in some random but targeted testing and safe MMA might actually have some legitimate value- or you can just skate around it doing £12 medicals and testing blood saying your making a difference when your really not.

He's also stated that its a far bigger issue then what SafeMMa does cover - so yes it is my exact point.

Whoa there! I didn't say that.

The stuff SAFE MMA is currently doing - testing for blood borne diseases, concussion monitoring and a proper GP medical - are essentials. You can't go anywhere until you have that stuff in place. Regardless of the absolute risk involved, if you're going to let fighters bleed all over each other (ie, not stop a fight at the first sign of blood), then it has to be done. 100%.

Secondly - re steroid testing - you can't just buy a bunch of cheap steroid tests and run it yourself. With PED testing, you have to think about things like contamination, chain of custody, full documentation, taking and storing multiple samples in case of appeals - all of the things that make it difficult. It has to be done properly, or not at all, and doing it properly is expensive and difficult. "Better than nothing" doesn't work in this instance - once you've opened that can of worms, you need to be prepared to deal with it the right way. I'm 100% behind proper drug testing in MMA - but it's something that needs to be addressed by a governing body, once we have one.

It's like building a house. I want a roof on my house, but if you try to put it in before you have the walls up, you're going to run into problems.

The stuff SAFE MMA is currently doing - testing for blood borne diseases, concussion monitoring and a proper GP medical - are essentials. You can't go anywhere until you have that stuff in place. Regardless of the absolute risk involved, if you're going to let fighters bleed all over each other (ie, not stop a fight at the first sign of blood), then it has to be done. 100%.

Secondly - re steroid testing - you can't just buy a bunch of cheap steroid tests and run it yourself. With PED testing, you have to think about things like contamination, chain of custody, full documentation, taking and storing multiple samples in case of appeals - all of the things that make it difficult. It has to be done properly, or not at all, and doing it properly is expensive and difficult. "Better than nothing" doesn't work in this instance - once you've opened that can of worms, you need to be prepared to deal with it the right way. I'm 100% behind proper drug testing in MMA - but it's something that needs to be addressed by a governing body, once we have one.

It's like building a house. I want a roof on my house, but if you try to put it in before you have the walls up, you're going to run into problems.

PS - it's "she", not "he".

Thank God you added this Rosi! I thought you had just buried me with a PED> medical screening argument ;o)

A steroid test costs at its cheapest £160 bring in some random but targeted testing and safe MMA might actually have some legitimate value- or you can just skate around it doing £12 medicals and testing blood saying your making a difference when your really not.

Has anyone being found to have Aids, HIV or HepB yet?

I'm sorry but I have to cut in here. This is trolling at its worst. Trolling other members....fine but this is an organisation working their arses off to make a safer environment for ukmma. Questioning their legitimate value shows that your either a c*ntish troll,or either completely stupid.

You bashing an organisation that has never said that their goals is to get rid of PEDs. And the reasons why has been stated numerous times on this thread.

Your lack of knowledge on the subject and mma as a whole was also multiplied further by referring to rosi sexton as a 'he'........

While it is honourable that you wish there was a way to rid PEDs altogether, but safe mma cannot provide this,so support their cause and in the future hopefully they will be seen as the starting point to ukmma becoming regulated and safer for everyone involved.

i 100% support what Safe MMA are trying to achieve, fighter health and safety is bread and butter but my concern lays with its now become apparent that one of the founder organisation is believed to be using fighters who have not been cleared by safe MMA blood tests, or they are out of date ect.....yet they are still fighting on a safe MMA event...

not only are we taking a step back, but surely there are some concerns with regards to fighters who are paying hundreds of pounds to register safe MMA so they can fight on these safe MMA events, yet there are fighters who are not fully compliant/probibly not paid out the same money and still fighting on the safe MMA shows - i dont think this is fair! (if this is the case, which it seems to be)

UCMMA has flown well and truley below the radar here. They stood by and agreement from the start to work with Safe MMA and the other big orgs to improve standards and then breached the agreement. DOD is well know for looking after fighters, which he probably had at heart here but he still breached an agreement in letting the two fights that fell outside the criteria take place.

The PEDS discussion is clouding that point badly. That was argued a few weeks ago.

I'm sorry but I have to cut in here. This is trolling at its worst. Trolling other members....fine but this is an organisation working their arses off to make a safer environment for ukmma. Questioning their legitimate value shows that your either a c*ntish troll,or either completely stupid.

You bashing an organisation that has never said that their goals is to get rid of PEDs. And the reasons why has been stated numerous times on this thread.

Your lack of knowledge on the subject and mma as a whole was also multiplied further by referring to rosi sexton as a 'he'........

While it is honourable that you wish there was a way to rid PEDs altogether, but safe mma cannot provide this,so support their cause and in the future hopefully they will be seen as the starting point to ukmma becoming regulated and safer for everyone involved.

This one hasn't got the hang of trolling and I doubt ever will....totally agree Fakes!

UCMMA has flown well and truley below the radar here. They stood by and agreement from the start to work with Safe MMA and the other big orgs to improve standards and then breached the agreement. DOD is well know for looking after fighters, which he probably had at heart here but he still breached an agreement in letting the two fights that fell outside the criteria take place.

The PEDS discussion is clouding that point badly. That was argued a few weeks ago.

Exactly as above. This thread was set up asking where do safe mma goes from here if what was said happened actually happened.

Would like to hear Ian's., rosi and john's opinion on that matter really. Rather than saying were all cunts for questioning it.

O and I still don't get why gyms have to pay. As I'm the only pro fighter in my gym I'm better off in depart then? Just a question

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