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I get what you're saying, but as the market of these below average players drys up, it might make Cashman and Brothers NEED to make a deal...I am kind of glad all the Keppingers, Schierholtz, Chavez types are not signing. It makes them be creative and not just sign 1 year stop gaps.

Plus, Reynolds would not be bad and has a higher OBP than Ichiro*... *footnote: credit goes to Ry!

Ichiro sucks. People can't get over it. He was vastly overrated in his prime and is now a shell of that. He's a backup, a plan C. He should not be a starting OFer.

People are making fun of Schierholtz, yet he's been a better player than Ichiro the last 2 seasons. They're calling into question Reynolds OBP, yet Reynolds has a better OBP than Ichiro, and has also been the better offensive player.

Ichiro sucks. People can't get over it. He was vastly overrated in his prime and is now a shell of that. He's a backup, a plan C. He should not be a starting OFer.

People are making fun of Schierholtz, yet he's been a better player than Ichiro the last 2 seasons. They're calling into question Reynolds OBP, yet Reynolds has a better OBP than Ichiro, and has also been the better offensive player.

I love that u hate Itchy when he was actually our best player in the stretch run and playoffs.

Stats schmats.

That dude is a baseball player. Does everything right to help a team win.

I'd even say that he was the ONLY guy I wanted up in a big spot in the playoffs. Well, besides Babe Ibanez.

Ichiro was great for us last year. Both the stats and eyetest says so. There is no denying that.

Ichiro was good for us and a subpar player the last 2 years. Do we think that @ 39 he's likely to produce the way he did for 2 months or should we use the last 2 years for basing judgement? Because for the last 2 years he's been a below average offensive player.

Originally Posted by leoharris

No no no....apparently Nate Sherholz was better based on his xfip war plus stat.

I'd make 2 simple points.

The eyeball test only works if you're watching all the guys. I'd imagine if you watched Schierholtz you would think he passes the eyeball test as well.

And as far as stats go, even the simple ones tell you which player was better. Nate has rocked a better OPS than Ichiro for the last 2 seasons.