Jakob wrote:Only the weakest constitutions can be seen cowering from confrontation while accusing the other of running.

If you really believe that, you are crazy, beyond a doubt.

I've never seen you not run from a debate.

Ask a question! Throw a topic up for debate. I'll reply and you'll run.

And don't say you already have, because I've replied to anything and everything here worth replying to. Sil and I were even begging for a conservative opponent, but you were evidently hiding behind the bushes.

Now after the pages have been turned a few, suddenly you tiptoe out to beat your chest, well bring it on then homie! What you got besides empty braggadocio?

Whatever. Like foul thugs. Socialism as I said is the worst, the one truly monstrous aspect of capitalism.

You're truly brainless fascist thugs. Coming in my thread not responding to any of my points and calling to beat me up.

Hard to know if that second quote was also aimed at me. Your communication is vague, keeps the context unclear, sort of 'poetic', in the sense of expressive without much rigor. But in any case, I haven't called to beat you up. I was responding to a point you made. You're vague description above of socialism matches a lot of capitalism, the latter hardly being some kind of will to power and is certainly a great many ganging ups, at least in its current forms. Capitalism and socialism both leave me dry, but people always want you to pick between whatver the current hallucination of what the 'only two possibilities' are. You called out dipper for antisemitism and prhaps even me also here. Show it. And sure KTS is anti-semitic and in many ways fascist with a love of ganging up.And yet you and a few other people here have taken on the downside of Satyr's style of communicating. That style need not be fascist, but if you want points responded to, make those points clear. And points come in arguments, points are not a bunch of flat assertions. N could do that because he was a genius and also wrote arguments. Without genius and arguments all you get is a bunch of 'deep' sounding proclamations.

Jakob wrote:All in see is socialists jumping to object to an idea about regulation. All I can see is liars and hypocrites with no trace of a heart.

FAcile. Not responding to a simple clear question about why in this case regulation is ok. I'm not a socialist and if you'd read my posts critical of Serendipper you'd know that. But box things off in a simple way so you don't need to respond. I didn't jump to object to the idea about regulation. I jumped to see why in this case regulation was ok. Gving you an opportunity to explain. I did not do this rudely but out of curiosity.

Your ally Pedro didn't have the courtesy to treat you with the respect you deserve and ask you himself why you seem to disagree on this meat issue. He just attacked others on what you both see as the other team. Weak, shit. Fake solidarity. Talk about socialist.

You took some kind of stand for regulation in a particular area. Great, i even complimented you for being willing to say something that might be or might be understood to be going against what your team believes. Of course people asked for clarification. IOW gave you an opportunity to explain.

Now you do the habituals poor shadow of KTS bullshit of labeling everyone, insulting them avoiding actually responding. And that's a poor shadow of KTS because while Satyr would do that kind of thing he also actually responded or attempted to to points made. You've rejected the father, while taking on only the poor aspects without the good ones.

I've given up on the godless scum here. I'm just here to express my views, which are always relevant. Because I do have a heart.

yes, you came to a philosophy for to express your views. A perfect description. To express. To throw out your ideas and somehow you are surprised that they might get criticized or questioned or that you might get asked for clarification.

Hey, I came here to express.

I am not interested in interacting. Your role is to listen.

Like an only child archetype.

If Pedro had had the guts and real friendship integrity he would have asked our questions and we could have read and see how you viewed your OP in the wider context of your beliefs. But he was not a true friend here. He just lashed out at socialists rather than trying to find out why you two disagree on regulating meat.

I won't take responsibility for his failure or take seriously all the labels you want to throw out in this hissy fit.

I'll ignore you. See, how simple that is. Instead of playing victim. Ignore. Poor you, you just wanted to express. Well, express to your heart's content. I won't bug you.

Jakob wrote:This filthy thug now calls for violence. The filth has been coming into my threads throwing his rotting feces around. Now he is showing his real nazi colours.

I know the filth from BTL where he presented himself as an antisemite. Ive tried to be polite to him during a year or so. But to no avail. This is a nazi to the bone.

Someone should give me a heads-up when Brave Sir Robin begins gnawing my shoestrings as I don't always have my focus so low.

Hey you guys wanna see why genius there thinks I'm racist????

After the egotist brothers begged me to come to their hole-in-the-wall site to get mired in a conversation reminiscent of being stuck in an elevator, I posted a Brother Nathanael video to illustrate the beauty of the Colorado mountains, which was the subject of the conversation, and because that was the only media I could think of that contained the evidence. Yeah, that was it.

From that he concluded, without trial, that I give 2 shits about race. And nevermind that I spend half my time fighting Gloominary in defense of brownies against his racism and white supremacy. No, let's not focus on that. Let's pull everything out of context and make sweeping generalizations while jumping to conclusions.

Because the important thing is to demonize serendipper. Why? Because Brave Sir Robin can't win on a level field and he knows it, which is why he runs and hides then tiptoes out to beat his chest while my back is turned. He does drivebys like the gangsta wannabe junkies he admires.

But I suppose by junkie-logic I'm also a Confederate flag waving conservative because I post zerohedge links too, eh? Hey, I've been reading zerohedge daily, every. single. day, since 2010. Every single day. It's the first site I check. Every. single. day! Well obviously then I'm conservative. Who ever heard of keeping enmities close?

It's like going to confession every time I hear you speakYou're makin' the most of your losin' streakSome call it sick, but I call it weak

You drag it around like a ball and chainYou wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the painYou wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crownGot your mind in the gutter, bringin' everybody downComplain about the present and blame it on the pastI'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass!

Get over itGet over itAll this bitchin' and moanin' and pitchin' a fitGet over it, get over it

You call yourself a musician and you can't recognize classic tunes such as those? Probably spending too much time with the hood rats then.

The only time BN ever enters my mind is when you bring it up, so I know your weakness now: you open your mouth again and I'll stuff more beautiful Colorado scenery in it.

Either present an argument, defend it, or stfu with your constant whimpering!

a similar incident occured in nazi germany known as 'the night of the long knives'. what we are experiencing here at ILP may be called 'the day of the short knives'. on this day, a citizen of ILP, one jakob milikowski, has brought forth allegations that you, serendipper, are, in fact, a nazi agent. we shall henceforth observe procedural statutes 3.4b and 2.2a until this matter is resolved. you will retain full citizenship privileges with the exception of a curfew being temporarily placed upon you, until such time that the evidence is brought before the court of carleas our lord to be examined and a verdict reached.

he used ta do a little but a little wouldn't doSo the little got more and morehe just keeps tryin' ta get a little betterSaid a little better than beforehe used ta do a little but a little wouldn't doSo the little got more and morehe just keeps tryin' ta get a little betterSaid a little better than before

And nevermind that I spend half my time fighting Gloominary in defense of brownies against his racism and white supremacy.

I'm not a white supremacist.My point was white civilization is the product of white people's unique talents, temperament and not merely an accident of geography, not that our civilization is necessarily the best, or that other races don't have unique talents of their own, they do.

there is no disputing that the caucasian sub-race - i mean that as a collection of phenotypes in a larger genotype - has been more 'eventful', with the mongoloid following closely behind, than the negroid sub-race. but 'eventful' doesn't necessarily mean there was something exclusive to the caucasian genes that would have promised the same eventfulness under any historical conditions. the capacities and powers of this particular phenotype set owe their success to the environments and opportunities made available during the course of the evolution of the type. if we were to rewind the tape, and put phenotype set x over here rather than over there, the course of natural selection would be different. likewise if we put set y over there rather than here, the same would result. but we can't rewind the tape, and we can't ignore the glaring differences between the activities of the sub-races over the last thirteen thousand years or so. that being said, what would be the role of the 'superior' sub-race in the world today? first, to accept with some modesty that they are simply a historical contingency and lose all that bullshit they believe about some manifest destiny. second, accept that globalism and multiculturalism is an inevitability and take up the task of leading the way into this inevitability. third, recognize that today there is no difference between natural and artificial selection, and that with enough effort, you could create ways to raise the intelligence levels and health of just about anybody. and finally, realize that there are no realistic options left but to assimilate everyone. this is to say, the spirit of 'nationalism' will lead ultimately to violent confrontation sometime in the near future unless that idea is completely banished from ideology. with all this in mind, the claim of 'supremacy', if it ever comes to be understood in its scientific terms rather than in the moral terms - which incidentally is the cause of all the indignation - would be something as obvious as it is now irrelevant in the 21rst century. okay, so whitey invented more shit, has less genetically related health problems and slightly longer life spans. but so what? what is whitey going to do with all those blessings? continue waving flags around like medieval brutes, or get to work using his talents to improve mankind?

seems to me that if whitey thought himself superior, he'd be honored to accept his greater responsibility for the world and rise to achieve the impossible if only because it is impossible: create a cornucopia in ethiopia, make it shady in haiti, till the land in sudan, import fauna to botswana, provide cola to angola, give works by dali to folks in mali, and book enya to tour kenya. have him do that, and whitey will impress me. you have my word.

promethean75 wrote:a similar incident occured in nazi germany known as 'the night of the long knives'. what we are experiencing here at ILP may be called 'the day of the short knives'. on this day, a citizen of ILP, one jakob milikowski, has brought forth allegations that you, serendipper, are, in fact, a nazi agent. we shall henceforth observe procedural statutes 3.4b and 2.2a until this matter is resolved. you will retain full citizenship privileges with the exception of a curfew being temporarily placed upon you, until such time that the evidence is brought before the court of carleas our lord to be examined and a verdict reached.

I can't function as a disarmed citizen where when seconds count, the clueless cops are only minutes away, and who, upon arrival, arrest the citizen for retaliating while patting the criminal on the head. I can't function where disruptors are allowed to thrive and the swine are bestowed refuge in preparation to trample pearls. I can't do it... the constant walking on eggshells appeasing an authoritative fog obscuring the lines constituting transgression while creatively veiled insults are sanctioned and stumbling blocks to conservation are permitted. Either free me from these manacles to pommel those poltroons, purge the peccary, or I'm finding greener pastures to sow my seeds.

What we've got here is failure to communicate.Some men you just can't reach...So, you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it!Well, he gets it!N' I don't like it any more than you men.

Look at your young men fightingLook at your women cryingLook at your young men dyingThe way they've always done before

Look at the hate we're breedingLook at the fear we're feedingLook at the lives we're leadingThe way we've always done before

My hands are tied!The billions shift from side to sideAnd the wars go on with brainwashed prideFor the love of God and our human rightsAnd all these things are swept asideBy bloody hands time can't denyAnd are washed away by your genocideAnd history hides the lies of our civil wars

You can't trust freedomWhen it's not in your handsWhen everybody's fightin'For their promised land

And nevermind that I spend half my time fighting Gloominary in defense of brownies against his racism and white supremacy.

I'm not a white supremacist.My point was white civilization is the product of white people's unique talents, temperament and not merely an accident of geography, not that our civilization is necessarily the best, or that other races don't have unique talents of their own, they do.

Well are whites superior or are they not? And if they're not, then what's all that appealing to dna and why are we discussing Jared Diamond's theory explaining why whites are superior?

I gotta be honest with you... reading that manifesto reminded me a lot of talking to you. Not saying you'd go to those lengths, not saying that at all, don't get me wrong, but the whole time I kept thinking "if only this guy had come to ILP so I could have talked some sense into him", but then I realized carleas would have probably banned him, relegating him back to his echo-chamber making him unreachable.

What's so freakin special about white people? And why is that good? And who says they need eternal preservation? Valuable things do not last forever; eternal things are the most meaningless things possible. What makes value is scarcity and impermanence.

you just don't want to be that ugly. but that picture's deceiving. that's startrek stuff produced by hollywood capitalists spreading anti-socialist propaganda through art.

our new borg society will consist of perfectly sculpted athletic bodies clothed in skin tight neon colored nanofiber materials that generate energy through photosynthesis. you think you're hot now... wait until you get into one of these suits.

But most people I think are actually afraid of history. If one really started digging through history, it would inevitably turn up a lot of shit. And how does one deal with that? It’s easier to just forget (sever the past) and move on. (ex: do we ever talk in the mainstream about displacement and genocide of Native Americans? ) Historically, we like to highlight some facts, but downplay others. But oftentimes, as they say, the devil hides in the details. If you want to know the truth you’d have to reconcile all historical facts. For instance, in art, Monet was considered the father of Abstract painting. People admire his blurring technique and hail it as revolutionary, but does anyone care that it was just a product of his failing eyesight? Does anyone care about this simple, but important fact? The “shameful” cause of the effect is downplayed or ignored, while the effect itself (detached from cause) is emulated.https://news.stanford.edu/news/2007/apr ... 41107.html

And I can say he same about Nietsche. Does anybody care that he was a psychoactive drug-using, neurosyphilitic man? Nobody seems to care. Why do people keep overlooking this important fact?

Perhaps people just like blurring distinctions. It’s easier on the brain (and the eye). Perhaps considering all the distinctions and variations is too complex to process and manage for most people. Perhaps they are overtaken by the reward thinking (which could act as a type of distraction).

"Why is liberal left ideology disintegrating right on the cusp of its victory? Because it is only a movement of entropy within existing substances, as I wrote elsewhere (somewhere in value ontology studies I think). I’m now seeing an occasional email from someone in a professional capacity where their email signature includes “pronouns: he/him” or “she/her”. So naturally I conclude we’re fucked. But then I see how insane the left is and how everything they say now is demonstrably false and everyone knows it, including the pronoun shit."

"People only go along with it because the Soviet style oppression of public discourse has reached a peak where everyone knows if you go against it you’ll lose your job, get kicked from social media, lose your friends (assuming anyone who would stop talking to you because you said transgenderism is pathological child abuse could bd called a “friend” to begin with), maybe get doxxed and end up like a Covington kid."

"So fear keeps everyone in line as grand moff Tarkin said to Darth Vader, but now we have multiple clashes between leftist elements. Muslims in Congress, Alexandria occasional cortex, radical Muslims and Christians in UK getting “lgbt” classes banned in schools, Democrats going as far communist mode as possible and getting chastised by other democrats. Why?"

"Well the left isn’t any kind of system or substance it is merely entropic decay; once this is seen it becomes clear that leftism cannot cohere around anything systemic or substantial, namely it is forced to cohere around things like fear and intimidation and any and all emotional regurgitation."

"Emotions are excesses of many different things and this is just fine because they tend to work well with existing substances such as reason, language, meaning, biology; but leftism is purely a cancer that eats everything it touches."