Comments on: DSEI 17 – Thales Launches F90 Modular Bullpup Riflehttp://soldiersystems.net/2017/09/13/dsei-17-thales-launches-f90-modular-bullpup-rifle/
An Industry Daily and Tactical Gear News BlogSun, 18 Feb 2018 04:35:34 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.3.15By: Greghttp://soldiersystems.net/2017/09/13/dsei-17-thales-launches-f90-modular-bullpup-rifle/comment-page-1/#comment-994851
Fri, 15 Sep 2017 19:48:37 +0000http://soldiersystems.net/?p=143987#comment-994851I see a lot of FN F2000 influence in that
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Fri, 15 Sep 2017 19:24:14 +0000http://soldiersystems.net/?p=143987#comment-994833I could be mistaken, but I think he is saying that the cost of the F90 vs the cost of the 416 is “disgusting” not that the 416 is rubbish.
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Fri, 15 Sep 2017 14:33:58 +0000http://soldiersystems.net/?p=143987#comment-994660Nice how they went all HK on the accessory layout board.
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Fri, 15 Sep 2017 00:56:51 +0000http://soldiersystems.net/?p=143987#comment-994375Just curious as to why you think the 416 is rubbish. I’d heard that its a vast improvement over the existing m4. Not being a twat just curious as to your experience.
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Thu, 14 Sep 2017 23:34:40 +0000http://soldiersystems.net/?p=143987#comment-994336My source is my own personal experience. I work as an armourer in a military that fields both Steyrs and M4s. I’m not going to tell you that I’ve been doing it for 20 years, and I’m not going to tell you I work with some high speed door kicking unit, but I do deal with this stuff every single day.

The Steyr is not without it’s problems, but it is an excellent fleet weapon. Diggers tend to do some… unorthodox… things to their weapons, and Steyrs will hold up. They are simply more rugged. ‘Putting rounds through’ a rifle is not a sufficient benchmark in a military context. Take a Steyr and an M4 and really throw them around, bash them into rocks, drop them down cliffs, run over them like the guys who get issued them do and compare the result.

In the Australian Army, equipment is tiered to your requirement. If you need an M4, you will be issued an M4. If you need a Crye Airframe, you will be issued a Crye Airframe. If you haven’t been issued the latest go fast shit it’s probably because you don’t need it.

That being said, I work on rifles for a living, I don’t argue about rifles on the internet for a living. If your own personal experience tells you an M4 is better, run with it. It doesn’t concern me, I have no stake in this.

As for the EF88/F90, I have heard that they are costing the Army the same as a HK416 which IS truly disgusting – but I am comparing the F88SA2 and the M4, not the EF88 and 416.