So...what's coming up that we haven't talked about yet that yuri
fandumb will, despite all evidence to the contrary, insist is yuri?
LOL My first candidate is "Rocket Girls" which is a pretty thinly
veiled attempt to show young women in skintight "spacesuits" with the
thinnest plot. Sort of like Stratos 4, it's about a bunch of girls, so
inevitably two will be seen standing next to one another a lot. :-)

Anyone else?

Cheers,

Erica

Adam Jones

... Yes, Erica. Yes we are. (Nurse, could you fetch me some more morphine? Patient E is acting up again.) ... I bet they won t dare to re-use the Evil

Pfft. Serge always watches the crap I suggest, like a good minion. :-)

> > My first candidate is "Rocket Girls" which is a pretty thinly
> > veiled attempt to show young women in skintight "spacesuits" with the
> > thinnest plot. Sort of like Stratos 4
>
>I bet they won't dare to re-use the Evil Space-Lesbian Virus, though.
>(When I rule the world, *all* sci-fi will feature ESLV.)

That was the saving grace of what was a terrible series, yes...and not
dissimilar to the background of just about every bad post-apocalyptic 80's
lesbian sci-fi novel series, too.

The English dub (done in the U.S., I think) aired on Animax was so
horrible I couldn't watch the show regularly enough to catch that bit,
so the only thing I really liked were the theme songs by Melocure.

> dissimilar to the background of just about every bad post-apocalyptic
> 80's lesbian sci-fi novel series, too.

>

Entire series? Closest thing to those I've read are Sherri S. Tepper's
Gate to Women's Country and Pamela Sargent's Shore of Women, which both
had post-apocalyptic matriarchies as the last bastion of civilization.

atheniag

... The original was pretty horrible, with or without dubs. Not as lame as Vandread, but sort of meh, with that idiot savant type heroine that makes me sad

>
> > >I bet they won't dare to re-use the Evil Space-Lesbian Virus, though.
> > >(When I rule the world, *all* sci-fi will feature ESLV.)
> >
> > That was the saving grace of what was a terrible series, yes...and not
>
> The English dub (done in the U.S., I think) aired on Animax was so
> horrible I couldn't watch the show regularly enough to catch that bit,
> so the only thing I really liked were the theme songs by Melocure.

The original was pretty horrible, with or without dubs. Not as lame as
Vandread, but sort of meh, with that "idiot savant" type heroine that
makes me sad for Japanese women.

> > dissimilar to the background of just about every bad post-apocalyptic
> > 80's lesbian sci-fi novel series, too.
>
> >
> Entire series? Closest thing to those I've read are Sherri S. Tepper's
> Gate to Women's Country and Pamela Sargent's Shore of Women, which both
> had post-apocalyptic matriarchies as the last bastion of civilization.

Heh. I would gladly provide names, but I have this little feature in
my brain (seriously) that wipes out my memory of books and movies that
I didn't enjoy, so while I remember vaguely I read or saw them, I
won't remember details.

But these series were late 70's early 80's lesbian separatist, womyn
and femlit literature, by a few of the lesbian presses out there.
Women either all of a sudden came to their collective senses and
realized they didn't need men, or a virus wiped out all the men, or
women, sorry, wimmin, learned how to reproduce w/out men and suddenly
all became lesbian as a logical next step. That kind of stuff.

...the kind of stuff that I am sure Konno Oyuki-sensei is implying
when she has Sei reading "homosexual" literature along with "Well."

Gosh I read some real stinkers as a babydyke...which is exactly why I
wrote SnB. I just wanted there to be *one* book out there for young
lesbians (particularly) where being a lesbian 1) wasn't an issue, 2)
didn't involve angst and fear, 3) was the source of fun, without too
much bitter mixed in.

Cheers,

Erica

mellowrg

... Claymore. Everything after the first two arcs has been very good. A story like this only comes every decade or so. Although, being an anime adapted from a

> Claymore.
>
> Everything after the first two arcs has been very good. A story like
> this only comes every decade or so.
>
> Although, being an anime adapted from a manga, it has the tendency to
> hit or miss depending on the execution

When I wrote about Claymore manga on shoujo-ai forum two years ago,
almost noone was interested in this title. As I see, at the list is
the same. Claymore is one of the best comic book I've ever read and
one of that which has soujo-ai but is totaly neglected by yuri fans.
Lesbian motives in Claymore are very subtle and maybe this is the
purpose of its small popularity in yuri fandom. This comic include
many interrelations between women and a few couples (Sophia&Noel,
Helen&Denev, Rachel&Audrey and short but deep relation between Theresa
and Claire). Many interesting women characters, dramatic plot, good
dialogues and beautiful art makes Yagi's work great.

Cheers,
Louise

Erica Friedman

... Not not interested - it s more like not familiar with. I have certainly seen yuri fanart of the chacters from Claymore. So, tell us about it. You say

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>From: "Sylwia 'Louise' Kazmierczak" <louise_salieri@...>
>Reply-To: Yuricon@yahoogroups.com
>To: Yuricon@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Yuricon] Re: Looking forward to the spring anime season
>Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:37:51 -0000
>
>When I wrote about Claymore manga on shoujo-ai forum two years ago,
>almost noone was interested in this title. As I see, at the list is
>the same.

Not "not interested" - it's more like "not familiar with." I have certainly
seen yuri fanart of the chacters from Claymore. So, tell us about it. You
say it's good...what's it *about*?

If there is an anime coming out this spring (and I assume there is, or
mellowrg wouldn't have added the title to this thread, I'm sure plenty of
folks will give it a try. Whther there's yuri in the anime remains to be
seen, of course. It's not like no yuri has stopped yuri famdumb before,
though. <coughAriacough>. ;-)

... I haven t seen any yuri fanart of Claymore, if you remember where it was or who made it I d be deeply grateful, I so want to see it. I ve seen up to

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, May 18, 2007

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> >When I wrote about Claymore manga on shoujo-ai forum two years ago,
> >almost noone was interested in this title. As I see, at the list is
> >the same.
>
> Not "not interested" - it's more like "not familiar with." I have
> certainly seen yuri fanart of the chacters from Claymore. So, tell
> us about it. You say it's good...what's it *about*?

I haven't seen any yuri fanart of Claymore, if you remember where it
was or who made it I'd be deeply grateful, I so want to see it.

I've seen up to episode 7 and it definitely is yuri (more yuri tan
Aria, anyway >.>) but on top of that it is a very very good anime (and
I can only imagine how extreme the manga is just based on the fact
anime often tends to be less than the manga)

The story is a dark-age world in which demons called "Youma" eat human
guts, an organization has these women who use youma powers to kill
youma for a profit, there's much more to it than that, apparently
these women have youma blood and flesh in them (not sure how) and use
human will to control it and use it; if they use too much, however,
the "yoki" which is like the power the youma and these women use,
begins to control them and they turn into youma. So a good "claymore"
(which is the name humans give these women, as well as "silver eye
witches" and "monsters") is one that can be extremely strong without
using yoki.

The story is very deep and the combat is amazing, also lots of blood
but its not disgusting, mainly because the blood isn't on screen for
longer than one can tolerate, there is also some fanservice but it is
in the form of tight clothes, and some nudity (but nothing improper is
ever shown)

The yuri so far (up to chapter 7) is between the top Claymore
"Theresa" and a little girl called "Claire", Claire is much younger
than Theresa, but she admires/adores/desires Theresa, I won't say much
about Theresa because its an spoiler.

I greatly recommend it, and I do see yuri there.

oh! yes, fanart please, any hint, even little one would be greatly
appreciated.

atheniag

... Well, I have to disagree there. I m not seeing yuri. Sure Clarte admires Teresa and has obvious affection for her, but I m seeing a younger older sister or

> I've seen up to episode 7 and it definitely is yuri (more yuri tan
> Aria, anyway >.>)

Well, I have to disagree there. I'm not seeing yuri. Sure Clarte
admires Teresa and has obvious affection for her, but I'm seeing a
younger older sister or daughter mother dymnamic. I definitely am not
seeing whatever desire you. (I'm tempted to write that I've had my
head in any number of laps without actually desiring the person, but
it sounds really bad, even if it is true. LOL)

but on top of that it is a very very good anime (and

> I can only imagine how extreme the manga is just based on the fact
> anime often tends to be less than the manga)

And again...it's a perfectly fine anime, but not, IMHO, so OMG. The
plot so far is, to me, incredibly predictable. I'm enjoying it
plenty, but I'm just not seeing it as being more than the sword and
sorceror vehicle that it is.

Cheers,

Erica

Aereal Reis

... Well.. I really have no strong argument to defend the yuri undertones here, I m sure many people won t see it as yuri, and again: many will; I think its

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, May 18, 2007

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> Well, I have to disagree there. I'm not seeing yuri. Sure Clarte
> admires Teresa and has obvious affection for her, but I'm seeing a
> younger older sister or daughter mother dymnamic. I definitely am
> not seeing whatever desire you. (I'm tempted to write that I've had
> my head in any number of laps without actually desiring the person,
> but it sounds really bad, even if it is true. LOL)
>

Well.. I really have no strong argument to defend the yuri undertones
here, I'm sure many people won't see it as yuri, and again: many will;
I think its something that has become more or less an habit, but
honestly, we get so little yuri undertone anime, and even less strong
yuri anime its not a surprise to see hundreds pining for the little
there is, its not a excuse to do it, but a fact that its hard to overlook.

> And again...it's a perfectly fine anime, but not, IMHO, so OMG. The
> plot so far is, to me, incredibly predictable. I'm enjoying it
> plenty, but I'm just not seeing it as being more than the sword and
> sorceror vehicle that it is.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Erica
>

But its not to know "what will happen" because /I/ see it, but to
watch "how it happens", I really liked it, I think that is just that
^-^. I am mostly hesitant with anime, currently I'm only watching El
Cazador, Nanoha and Claymore.

I think we really need more good anime, and if I'm to daydream, more
yuri anime, I am really hoping for Strawberry Shake Sweet, Iono the
fanatics, Hayate X Blade, or Aoi Hana anime.. but then again.. its
only daydreaming.

silvertenshi24687

... I totally agree to this, we do need more good anime, and specialy good yuri anime where there s a really yuri couple not just subtext or anything like

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, May 22, 2007

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>
> I think we really need more good anime, and if I'm to daydream, more
> yuri anime, I am really hoping for Strawberry Shake Sweet, Iono the
> fanatics, Hayate X Blade, or Aoi Hana anime.. but then again.. its
> only daydreaming.
>

I totally agree to this, we do need more good anime, and specialy good
yuri anime where there's a really yuri couple not just subtext or
anything like that, i'll really love to see Strawberry Shake Sweet
anime and Iono the fanatics anime, mmm Maka Maka is really good too,
has a great plot and it's fun, thou i wouldn't like if they made it
just fanservice(mainly boys). The only bits of yuri in some none yuri
anime is just for fanservice and that's something i've come to hate.

Eric

I ve read about this OVA series in Newtype called ICE, in which possible yuri-ish elements seem implied. In the future, men are wiped out, and the rest of the

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, May 24, 2007

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I've read about this OVA series in Newtype called ICE, in which
possible yuri-ish elements seem implied. In the future, men are wiped
out, and the rest of the all-woman human society gathered in Tokyo are
divided between the pessimists, who resort to hedonism since they
believe Earth will end someday, and the optimists, who resort to
science since they believe Earth could be saved someday. It involves
peace-keeping wars between both sides.--Pachy_Boy

Blah Blahn

I m surprised that nobody has mentioned Hitohira yet for Yuri content. The Yuri content is in large bunches, even if it is slow to develop. Now that the ending

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, Jun 6, 2007

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I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned Hitohira yet for Yuri content. The Yuri content is in large bunches, even if it is slow to develop. Now that the ending is coming up (the next episode preview said the 12th episode shall be the final one), I wonder how the series will end, especially with the obvious Yuri-ness of 11.... I am sad though, because Hitohira has definitely taken a turn for the depressive near the end. Anyways, random rambling aside, I wonder what other people think of Hitohira this anime season.

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