I offered you free shipping when you were listed as a member of Marc's organization. Since you stated you did not work for him and had your name removed from his site you became not a member, but a customer and THAT is what you now are. You failed to copy about the chemtrails and the burns I suffered that prevented me from mailing anything to anyone that week.

I asked you in our PM what exactly was it that you wanted from me? What do you want me to apologize for? You never answered.

The MORE JAMM was a wonderful success! We had a marvelous time, it was full of love, sharing, compassionate, good information and good company. Nothing was botched but your stating you were going to utilize a donator's (I prefer NOT to reveal private info.) loving offer of a roundtrip ticket to help and then backing out at the last minute, causing a person with a strong medical background to miss the opportunity to attend! You notified me the day prior to the event or perhaps the day before that but way too late for a reasonable ticket.
Dr. Wymore received plenty in donations from the event, I don't know where you get your information from but since I AM the source, you didn't get it from anyone credible. I'll let some attendees chime in on this and see what they have to say.
Not using private information on public forums is common courtesy Randy. Tact.

I can't even follow your confused snippets of information anymore. None of it makes sense and all of it is vindictive.

Genius is 150 my dear. That's what it takes to make MENSA. Tell you what, I'll test against you and we'll see who comes out on top, but as I mentioned, given that the tests are questionable anyway, I see it all as a bunch of rubbish that doesn't pertain to anything. Not much of what you are saying pertains to anything.

Yes, I told you I would ship that free of charge, but re-read above. You quit the organization and I'm simply asking that you pay as everyone else does or it comes out of Dr. Wymore's research fund. Here's the letter folks and there are PLENTY more. This has gotten so out of control and that was the point I was making when I first commented. And boy have you done some creative editing. And no, I STILL don't want that kind of email in my inbox, especially if you don't use the sense to blind cc. I have no problem with 'our troops' they are being shot up with toxins very similar to ours. That is MY greatest concern about them.

But here's your mail and given that you know darn well circumstances have changed within Marc's company, I would call this outright blackmail. That's why I told you to post whatever you wish as it's appearing as the ravings of a lunatic and sorry Randy, but I can not see the point of your continued waste of everyone's space and time for a personal vendetta.

Karen

Shall I post where yousiad I did nto have to send shipping money and will you be shipping back tow jars instead of one.

It is an even trade. You get one of my jars and youship it back to me.

I made a promise that I will break if you want to break yours.

Shall I post where you said not to worry about the shipping?

The email you are talking about came from Greg V and not me. Check your records.

I can post this entire message since it is in my e-mail and belongs to me accordingf to the law.

Correct the post on Biologu online or this post goes up tonight. I willwatch for your apology.

Randy

Hello, can you use spell or grammar check or something? You are a professional translator? Pleeeaaze!

This is like trying to deal with an addict or alcoholic. There is no rationality, therefore no point. Now PLEASE stop wasting everyone's time and energy. You think I'm a bad guy? I could give a rat's rear because unlike certain folks with borderline personality disorder, I know EXACTLY who and what I am and do. And know that I work sometimes 24/7 for this cause. I do not expect you or anyone else to define me. I am quite confident that I've made much needed headway in the support void for this disorder and that's ALL that matters to me.
So I'll ask you once again, this time before God and the entire forum. What is it that you want from me?
If you cannot define that Randy then please, let everyone get back to work and enough of the hissy fits!
And I am evil because I'm weary of sappy poems regarding useless death and suffering?
As a person of Jewish descent you should know....Judge not sayeth the Lord. There's been a lot of judging and labeling flying around (and I don't speak to London but on the rare occasion and it is definitely not about you, it is about science which I thought this site was suppose to center around).
Now how long are you going to continue this? Moderators, you can step in ANY TIME NOW. I understand Ms. Yaskal suffers from Morgellons but enough is enough.
Respectfully,
Karen

RANDY!!!! Why do you continue to make such a complete fool of yourself?
I'll bet you have never once admitted in your life, you were wrong or made a mistake, have you? Ever considered therapy? You are in desperate need of it. Show a little respect for God's sake. It seems as though Karen has been nothing but kind to you and of help when you really needed it. GET OFF HER BACK AND BURY IT!!!!!!!! You waist too much time trying to prove yourself as something so superior. My next statement is uncalled for but I cannot resist. It is not at all surprising why you do not have a husband and I feel sorry for your kids that live under your same roof. If you truly love them, you'll check into that therapy suggestion.

The Hartuk dude ran me off, so to say, a few weeks back. I wanted to post my story but reconsidered. After all. Who really gives a damn.

I will sometimes come here to read a page here and there to see if any progress has been made, especially when I make no progress of my own searching. I don't have alot of time to read and sort through Randy's crap as well as the informative pages so forgive me if I am duplicating an already posted site.

I am hooked on http://www.renseradio.comIt is the only site that seems to cut the crap and take this thing as serious as it is. From the main page, all of the info on Morgellon's can be found on the left and scrolling down maybe 1/3 or a little less of the front page. There is alot and it is consistant.

It seems as though Karen has been nothing but kind to you and of help when you really needed it. GET OFF HER BACK AND BURY IT!!!!!!!!

Karen has never helped me ever. I helped her with connecting her to Marc so that they could fundraise for Wymore. Get your facts straight. She went ballistsic on me for no reason at all..please get your facts straight.

I will never allow lies about to be placed somewhere without defending and telling the truth. If you or anyone expects that of me you need help.

And regarding the husband dear..I just ended a very long relationship and am in another serious one as we speak with someone I have known for a long time..so again..incorrect assumption..plus many of my dear friends have been friends since kindergarden. I am very well adjusted and am not in need of therapy although would not mind going if I had the time. (It is a luxury if you are Jewish to got to a therapist once a week. It is like doing your nails or getting your hair done.) And my son is very well adjusted and we are very close.

So check out who did what to whom and maybe you can get the facts straight before you type such nonsense.

MODERATOR!!! is there one? if so please do your job by blocking the ip's of those who can't resist the urge to make a mockery of this issue. also if possible go thru the 400+ pages and select the 80 or so pages that are written in the spirit of science, discovery and truth and do whatever else with the rest. this childishness must stop as quickly as possible. this thread as it is, is absolute humour and is quite frankly, embarrasing as hell. step up and moderate.

I offered you free shipping when you were listed as a member of Marc's organization. Since you stated you did not work for him and had your name removed from his site you became not a member, but a customer and THAT is what you now are. You failed to copy about the chemtrails and the burns I suffered that prevented me from mailing anything to anyone that week.

First of all I was never a MEMBER of his organization. He called me every day for two months and asked me to translate his pages and test out the cream. IN exchange he mailed me those two jars you are hoilding captive.

I never got a PM. It states NO NEW MESSAGES..so I am not sure what you are talking about.

The MORE JAMM was a wonderful success! We had a marvelous time, it was full of love, sharing, compassionate, good information and good company. Nothing was botched but your stating you were going to utilize a donator's (I prefer NOT to reveal private info.) loving offer of a roundtrip ticket to help and then backing out at the last minute, causing a person with a strong medical background to miss the opportunity to attend!

It was a fundraiser. How much money did you make? You lost money. That was not a success. It may have been fun but it was a financial failure.

This is full of BS. The reason that someone may not of attended is because the person giving the ticket had a deadline due to her charge card. I told her from the minute she told me that she was not using her frequesnt flyer miles that I would not use her charge card and she could do what she wanted. This was one month prior to the festival. Her significant other told her she cound not. WHY DO YOU LIE ALL THE TIME? you are pathological.

Genius is 150 my dear. That's what it takes to make MENSA.

MESA is 130.

Yes, I told you I would ship that free of charge, but re-read above. You quit the organization

Mark removed me as the contact person becuase he did not want me telling anyone about the other peoples cream or about any news from Schwartz and told me I worked FOR HIM. I explained I did not work for him or anyone and he removed my name and I put him in contact with you and now you are working for him , I presume.

Karen

Shall I post where you said I did not have to send shipping money and will you be shipping ba ck tow jars instead of one. It is an even trade. You get one of my jars and you ship it back to me. I made a promise that I will break if you want to break yours. Shall I post where you said not to worry about the shipping? The email you are talking about came from Greg V and not me. Check your records.

Karen this was a promise not a threat and I did do the post. Blackmail it was not. STOP lying and stealing.

Randy

Hello, can you use spell or grammar check or something? You are a professional translator? Pleeeaaze!

[b]I am dyslexic and very busy. If you care to make fun of my disability ..please feel free to do so. Also I am the agnecy owner, not a translator.

I tried to check my link to be sure it was correct and show the pages that really need to be seen. I'm sorry to waist anyone's time.

the renseradio link is currently over populated. This link displayed the main page I spoke of:
http://www.rense.com

And this exact link displayed what must be seen:
http://goddess-of-fire.tripod.com/index-1.htmlBriefly, the facts: Plum Island. It is located less than 2 miles from the Eastern shore of Long Island, Orient Pt. It is less than 13 miles across Long Island Sound from our Submarine base at Groton, Ct. (Pathogens deemed too dangerous to enter via JFK, are brought via submarine and transferred to a Govt. Ferry to Plum Island. Plum Island is a top secret biowar and level 5 facility. (Plum Island has had a horrific safety violation and has been cited by the EPA as late as Spring 1999.)

Dangit~ I am so out of time, right now. This info is intense. If the last links I just posted don't reveal this, i will come back and type the entire 6 pages of it, if I have to. I am probably digging my grave, too.

Ran into the "why" along the way.
We are being DEPOPULATED. Only "They" will have the cure for this.

It is nice to have friends that send you emails to let you know when accusations have been made about you.

I don't lurk around the internet and stick my nose here and there because I don't have time as I am busy with my board and our members.
Although I see nothing wrong with doing this .

My statement to this board is this:

I have not sold 1 jar of Marc's cream. I have 2 jars myself but I do not sell anything other than my own product that has nothing to do with Morgellon's and I do not sell this makeup product to my board .

Marc has invited me to sell his product and I don't blame him. He has spent a lot of $ and time making this cream.

So, I am defending myself.

That is all!

Untrue statements should not go undefended by the accused.

First of all if I decided to accept Marc's invitation, I would let everyone on the board know about it first. What do I have to hide.

I am an open book with nothing to hide.

Just so you know that these accusations are untrue. I needed to set the record straight.

Come join us, I make every effort possible to ban trouble makers. In a way this is unique to the web . You won't be harrassed for your ideas and statements.

We are all just going to have to ignore her, she takes too much of our energy and distracts from working on our goals.

Ridgewalker and all, I am very sorry for stooping to her level and I will never allow her to affect me that way again. I don’t think she can help it because it is not even coming close to registering.

Congratulations on your successful event, MORE Jam!!! We sure could use your organizational skills on this board , welcome back to biology online.

London wrote:Now, on second note, I love you phules and don't wanna go there (the above sentence) I am trustworthy and our Lady Sabrina can vouch for that......

Sorry London, nothing personal but I cannot vouch for you. I have never corresponded with you other than by two public forums and I really have no clue as to who you are. As a matter of fact, I am still very curious about some of your comments in your posts. Nothing personal and I hope you understand that.

Dear Deena,

Welcome back here also and please do not feel like you have to let anyone run you off this board. I give a damn about your story and would love to hear what you have to say. Please feel free to speak out.

Thanks for the Plumb island info but I have been over that with a fine tooth comb (see page 1). Although I have many personal connections with this subject I have still been unable to relate the fiber disease to having anything to do with it.

I was stationed across from that sub base in Groton (USCGA) back in the late eighties. I even knew some bubbleheads and got to board some of the subs. But guess what? I can trace my symptoms back even before I ever enlisted in the first place. Theory of any connection for me can be easily ruled out. It would be more likely that it was me doing the infecting than the other way around. The only question I have is why did they let me in the service with this condition in the first place?

What a paradox….

I do not know what this is but I do know what it is not.

I do not know where I contracted it but I do know where I did not contract it.

If you think about it guys we are extraordinary. We are that in tune with our bodies, remarkable! We were smart enough to figure it out, outstanding! We beat the incredible odds against us, amazing! We are still fighting, unbelievable!

Have some unrelated questions that I would like to ask you if you do not mind.

I need to know if you sell Mary Kay products. I ask for only personal reasons. In my pre-awareness days, before I knew what this was, there was only one product/s that cleared my face up. It still works to this day and I buy it when I can afford it which isn’t often. Mary Kay makes this product/s and I would love to consult with you about it.

Thank you very much for the invitation to your site also. I have not seen it but would love to see your work. And thank you for your work.