I think that I’m not the fist person who noticed that the beat counter isn’t working that well if sync is not enabled. Cause I’m playing across genres, it is totally annoying to activate sync to see the beat counter of the second player. I hope that this topic maybe implement this very small feature in fact that it is working in sync.

The master is defined by the player itself. The longest track to play or the one that is longest on air and not stopped is the master player. The logic behind this is already working but only if sync is enabled, what isn’t that useful when you don’t use sync

That’s not quite right. Other Players like CDJ can do this without a mixer in link. It switch when the track get stopped. It even can be switched manually.

You guys think too far I think. Only the Master deck should be displayed in the upper region of the beat counter and the deck of the player in the lower region.
I want to repeat: This feature is actually working but only in sync mode. It only have to get unlocked to the normal mode without sync

I haven’t totally tried thinking through all this (if I’m missing the mark here just let me know), but on my (former) Pioneer CDJ-2000nxs2s, you could designate one of the players the Master without turning on sync. The player that was not the Master would show the beat meter thing (type 1 or 2), and when you switched from one single layer player and physically shuffled over to the next single layer player and beat meter wasn’t displaying (because it was set to Master) all you had to do was toggle the ‘Master’ button in order to view the meter - and since sync wasn’t on, this did not affect playback speeds. I only occasionally used the phase meter when mixing, but I think I have the above stated correctly. And like @HenkvanMill I’ve also wondered why said beat counter/meter feature isn’t activated on the sc5000 uness sync is used. PS. Please do not respond with “why would you even need this feature to work when not using sync mode?”

I am also on board with this. If figuring out what to do with the layers is an issue, it should be considered for at least one layer working with another deck. We don’t need to have our cake and eat it too (having it on all layers across 2 decks), if it’s not possible but layer A on deck 1 to layer A on deck 2 should have this available at the least.

In addition, the utility could have control over this feature being active and with which deck/layer in which case it might even be easy to make it work with one deck’s layers A & B.