When Joey is gone. This will be gone. This is why we need team first guys. Joey is not a team first guy as evidenced by his childish antics. IE: Refusing to leave the field and getting suspended as a result.

The Dolphins don't have a locker room or leadership problem just a TALENT problem. The sad thing is Joey P. IS our best OLB along with JT who is not what he used to be. The Trifecta will get this corrected with young hungry focused LB's and just players in general who are good character guys like Jake Long, Sean Smith, Kendal Langford etc. This is year 3 of the reconstruction and I think guys like Porter and Crowder aren't in future plans.

The loss of Chad P had a bad affect on this team I think, he seemed to be the "leader" of the team on both offense and defense...

I recall alot of times towards the end of a game in 08 where he would go into the defensive huddle on the sidelines and give them a pep talk....

We didnt lose many games in the fourth that year either...

Just putting 2+2 together.....

Joey's drama has spread to far already, he wants to be released so he can chose where he goes... Otherwise he would have shut up and did this on a professional level...

Amen.

Henne said it. This team lost leadership. Vonnie Holliday was the "big daddy" I think is the phrase he used, and he said that it hurt the locker room when he left. Pennington's absence no doubt had the same type of affect.

I wonder if we would have heard any of this had the team won & been somewhat successful this past season. Do things change so much in 1 year? There seemed to be quite a lovefest after the 08 season. We all knew what we were getting with Porter & his mouth. We praised it when he came aboard saying it was time we had someone with this attitude but now it can surely snowball into a cancer. I am sure Parcells will act soon.Bottom line is , as a team I would think you go into a season with guys who want to be here & buy into the system. I would think we have seen the last of Porter in a Fins uniform & will just have to listen to his revenge quotes if he ever plays against us while on another team.

As soon as the Dolphins are able to release Joey Porter in March, they will. Channing Crowder may not be safe either.

He seems to be a young guy that still seems to be a long way from maturing and his level of play is average at best. He does not have a huge contract and if there is no CBA, the damage would be very minimum.

I wonder if we would have heard any of this had the team won & been somewhat successful this past season. Do things change so much in 1 year? There seemed to be quite a lovefest after the 08 season. We all knew what we were getting with Porter & his mouth. We praised it when he came aboard saying it was time we had someone with this attitude but now it can surely snowball into a cancer. I am sure Parcells will act soon.Bottom line is , as a team I would think you go into a season with guys who want to be here & buy into the system. I would think we have seen the last of Porter in a Fins uniform & will just have to listen to his revenge quotes if he ever plays against us while on another team.

There is good swagger and bad swagger. The problem with JP's swagger is that it's all about him. He isn't a team player or else we wouldn't be seeing this from him right now. He is the one who played flat this season, he is the one who refused to come out of games, and he is the one who flapped his gums (in a personal manner) about the Patriots and then laid an egg in the next game when they came looking for revenge over his remarks. The bottom line is the swagger Joey Porter brings is not always good for the team. Its fun to watch when its on your side and working for you, its not so fun when you have seasons such as this one and the drama that surrounds JP when things don't go his way.