Breaking: Hillary Clinton Hospitalized After Blood Clot Discovered

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has been hospitalized tonight after doctors discovered a blood clot in a follow-up exam after her concussion earlier this month. It’s not clear from early reports whether the blood clot is in her brain, but if so, that would be a very serious concern.

She is expected to remain at New York Presbyterian Hospital for the next 48 hours so doctors can monitor her condition and treat her with anti-coagulants, said Philippe Reines, deputy assistant secretary of state.

“Her doctors will continue to assess her condition, including other issues associated with her concussion,” Reines said. “They will determine if any further action is required.”

Clinton, 65, was suffering from a stomach virus earlier this month when she fainted due to dehydration, causing the concussion.

If she has a concussion, let’s see the medical report. Let’s see some proof that she’s not just stonewalling. If it’s true, then we can all wish her a speedy recovery. But it’s ridiculous to expect us to take her word for it.

And predictably, the inmates at FR and Hotair are already engaging in conspiracy theories, the most popular being "She's faking it to avoid testifying about Benghazi!" and "Obama's trying to have her knocked off to keep her from testifying about Benghazi!"

And predictably, the inmates at FR and Hotair are already engaging in conspiracy theories, the most popular being "She's faking it to avoid testifying about Benghazi!" and "Obama's trying to have her knocked off to keep her from testifying about Benghazi!"

Sure enough, the freep response is as predictable as the stench from an overflowing cesspool. Many freepers take it for granted that this is some kind of hoax having something or other to do with Benghazi.

16. We already knew that Bengazi is bad, but this means that it’s really, really bad, and there’s probably lots more that we do not yet know.
Maybe 90% of the dark, crazy stuff we’ve been theorizing here about it might be true:
Hillary does not launch into this type of exotic political calesthenics for nothing —there are some very heavy-duty skeletons in Bengazi that our shovels have been striking very near.
We’ve gotta keep the pressure up.

This one is more direct:

#18 I’m sure the clot is in the part of the brain labeled “Benghazi Memories”.

Some, of course, think Hillary is not in on the fix but is being slowly assassinated by You Know Who:

10. She may be getting the Vince Foster treatment from the current regime. Karma.

15. Early onset Arkancide?

21. Either this is a total lie, or she was whacked over the head in her home by someone not wanting her to testify on Benghazi.

Some of the FR's are doubting the story based on how ludicrous it is that she got her doctor to see her on a Sunday.

Srsly? They think the Secretary of State of the United States of America, 4th in line for the presidency, should call her physician when his office opens on Wednesday? Or perhaps she should go sit in an ER somewhere for a few hours?

Some of the FR's are doubting the story based on how ludicrous it is that she got her doctor to see her on a Sunday.

Srsly? They think the Secretary of State of the United States of America, 4th in line for the presidency, should call her physician when his office opens on Wednesday? Or perhaps she should go sit in an ER somewhere for a few hours?

Some of the FR's are doubting the story based on how ludicrous it is that she got her doctor to see her on a Sunday.

Srsly? They think the Secretary of State of the United States of America, 4th in line for the presidency, should call her physician when his office opens on Wednesday? Or perhaps she should go sit in an ER somewhere for a few hours?

Some of the FR's are doubting the story based on how ludicrous it is that she got her doctor to see her on a Sunday.

Srsly? They think the Secretary of State of the United States of America, 4th in line for the presidency, should call her physician when his office opens on Wednesday? Or perhaps she should go sit in an ER somewhere for a few hours?

If she has a concussion, let's see the medical report. Let's see some proof that she's not just stonewalling. If it's true, then we can all wish her a speedy recovery. But it's ridiculous to expect us to take her word for it.

What’s that you say? You don’t think that’s fair? All the paranoid wingnuts should shut up? Oh, I’m sure you’d say the same thing if this had happened between 2001-2009, and Colin Powell or Condoleeza Rice kept putting off testifying about it. You wouldn’t demand a doctor’s note then, right?
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Some of the FR's are doubting the story based on how ludicrous it is that she got her doctor to see her on a Sunday.

Srsly? They think the Secretary of State of the United States of America, 4th in line for the presidency, should call her physician when his office opens on Wednesday? Or perhaps she should go sit in an ER somewhere for a few hours?

you can tell from the close care she was receiving because of the seriousness of her fall. It wasn't fake.. Lucky they caught the blood clout so soon.

This isn't as much of a bargain but I think it's really coolBeethoven: The Symphonies
All nine symphonies performed on original period instruments. Not what most people are used to hearing. The strings are mushier and the brass is crunchier. Tempos and dynamics are a lot different than most modern interpretations.

Yet another example of demonizing the "enemy." Hillary Clinton, aside from all her public accomplishments, is also a middle-aged wife and mother. If she were anyone else, most of these creeps would be worrying about her condition and sending her flowers.

This is as much of a bargain but I think it's really coolBeethoven: The Symphonies
All nine symphonies performed on original period instruments. Not what most people are used to hearing. The strings are mushier and the brass is crunchier. Tempos and dynamics are a lot different than most modern interpretations.

I really can't tell the difference between Beethoven on period instruments and modern instruments. Bach, Handel, Telemann, Mozart all sound different when played on the original instruments. Anything from 1820 forward I can't really tell, but, I am not a musician.

(1) As noted by another poster, the third movement of the String Quartet No. 15 in A minor, Op. 132, isn't there. The third movement of the Quartet No. 12, Op. 127, has been inadvertently duplicated in its place. (Quartet No. 12 also has two extra movements: the last two movements of Quartet No. 13 have been duplicated and added to it.)

(3) The two tracks of the Piano Sonata No. 21 ("Waldstein") are reversed.

Hopefully Amazon will make the third movement of Quartet No. 15 available at some future time. For my own part, I can replace it out of my CD collection. I would have paid 99 cents just for Bruce Hungerford's wonderful performance of the little Op. 79 piano sonata, which hasn't been available since its original LP release. So unless that particular quartet is crucial, I'd jump on this release.

I really can't tell the difference between Beethoven on period instruments and modern instruments. Bach, Handel, Telemann, Mozart all sound different when played on the original instruments. Anything from 1820 forward I can't really tell, but, I am not a musician.

I really can't tell the difference between Beethoven on period instruments and modern instruments. Bach, Handel, Telemann, Mozart all sound different when played on the original instruments. Anything from 1820 forward I can't really tell, but, I am not a musician.

i'm only an amateur musician but the difference is too subtle for me as well

also i can't tell when groups singing renaissance and ars nova era vocal music are singing in natural temperament

This isn't as much of a bargain but I think it's really coolBeethoven: The Symphonies
All nine symphonies performed on original period instruments. Not what most people are used to hearing. The strings are mushier and the brass is crunchier. Tempos and dynamics are a lot different than most modern interpretations.

If you haven't seen it, check out the BBC movie "Eroica." It's Beethoven's 3rd done on period instruments with a dramatization of its first performance. I loved it so much I've bought 5 or 6 copies of the DVD as gifts.

If you haven't seen it, check out the BBC movie "Eroica." It's Beethoven's 3rd done on period instruments with a dramatization of its first performance. I loved it so much I've bought 5 or 6 copies of the DVD as gifts.

Ah, thanks for the tip. I watch more BBC than American TV these days. I'll keep an eye out for that one.

Doesn't feel good to realize that Hillary Clinton is ten times(hell lets take that up to one hundred) the patriot that these little syphilitics that indulge in the most obscene fantasies of secession and all the crimes against humanity that that would let them indulge in towards the civilian populations that happen to disagree with there particular point of view they would come across that a civil war would entail?

Makes me very happy to realize that in one hundred years, Hillary Clinton will probably be take up several chapters in the history of Barack Obama's presidency, while these fools will be at most a footnote.

Visions of little radio-controlled helicopters flying NOE over office cubicles, playing Ride of the Valkyries.

You know you're cultured when:

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

Mischief and Mayhem by Jenny Scheinman. Exquisite jazz by a violinist, wonderful rhythms. Easily the most delightful thing I've listened to this year and I only discovered it earlier today due to a "best of" list at a photography blog I read :)

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

I can think of various things for all three, but the last is because I played it once upon a time (the viola line) and I love it during the parts no one remembers. That's a really great piece of music and it's a shame that the one chunk is all anyone knows of it.

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

I had to look up #1, but not because I'm cultured, I just forgot about the sound track to Apocalypse Now.

I like how Rock evolved from overproduced hair metal anthems to the garage sound and basic stage setups. Back in the mid 80's, rock singers were required to have a very high range, but nowadays singers can have normal human range. There has been a resurgence in acoustic music on the pop charts as well. That all but disappeared for a few decades. And rock changed some when rap lyrics started to creep into hard rock tracks. That would have been unheard of in the early days of rap and hip-hop.

I enjoy listening to the merging sound of pop/rock/hip hop/dance music that has taken over the top 40 format. That is where pop music is now. Not sure where rock music can go without being part of that.

Which were preceded by the JBS, who followed upon the heels of Fr. Coughlin.

This is a long living movement of anti-modernism, the rejection of the results of the industrial and then information revolution, both of which have undercut the deep tribalism upon which Western Civilization has struggled in its "tension" (ah, what a useful word...) between being "Christianized" and inter-tribal European warfare.

Modernity has progressively erased the differences between tribes, and this unsettles those who want the old order of things.

Remember when we weren't even allowed to question W's policies, because "RESPECT TEH OFFIS OF TEH PRESIDENZY!"? Had we accused him of murder, the wingnuts' heads would have exploded. Of course, I never did any such thing. These people are disgusting.

This is apparently a DVT, not a brain clot, which would be way less likely anyway. DVT in a 65 year old following a concussion is not unusual in the least and not anywhere near as serious as an intracranial one.

not arsenic, the gov't has a gun that van shoot a person that will leave no ivisable holes, it shoots a frozen type bullet that melts once in the body and causes a heart attack,, they knew Andrew Breitbart had heart trouble and he was out walking when this might have occured, try to Google "Gun that the gov't has that does this" I do not remember the site but will try to find it, a woman who worked for the gov't said that this type of weapon does exist. he did not die of natural causes, he knew to much

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

For "Dance of the Hours", you have to think of dancing ostriches in tutus.

Wise fellow over at TPM seems to have answered the "concussion/clot" question:

There isn't much more information other than the above. I am a physician; here is my speculation, which should be taken with a grain of salt. (I also posted this on DailyKos)

The doctors said that her "blood clots" were related to her concussion. The blood clots were being treated with anticoagulants.

It is possible, but unlikely, that she has a subdural hematoma- a blood clot that forms between the dura mater (the outer lining attached to the skull) and the arachnoid mater (the inner lining adhering to the brain).

A subdural hematoma is usually caused by relatively minor head trauma which causes a tearing of small veins. The gradual accumulation of blood causes headaches and neurological symptoms.

I doubt that she has a subdural hematoma because this is NOT treated with anticoagulants. Usual treatment is observation for small clots -or- surgical removal of the clot if the patient has significant neurological symptoms or rapid growth of the clot.

More likely is a deep venous thrombosis (DVT) in the veins of the leg.

Secretary Clinton has several risk factors for a "hypercoaguable state;" a situation where her blood is more likely to clot in low-flow blood vessels like the veins her legs.

Her risks factors include:

- a recent viral gastroenteritis
- dehydration
- bed rest due to the concussion
- and most importantly, prolonged air travel.

The treatment for a DVT is anticoagulants.

If she does indeed have a DVT, the prognosis is good. The biggest danger is that a large part of the clot would break off and travel to the lungs, where it would block blood flow through the lungs.

Another danger is the risk of anticoagulation- either not enough, leading to growth of the clot -or- too much causing dangerous bleeding. With proper monitoring (which I am sure she will get!) the risk is low.

After several days of an injectable anticoagulant, she would be sent home on an oral anticoagulant.

We wish her well!!

An interesting note is that a very similar thing happened to Richard Nixon during his 1960 campaign for the presidency.

Well, I think there is also a "Romney's Revenge": What happens to wingnuts after they drink the fluid from their own election-time hyper-hatred after grudgingly supporting a nominal candidate pushed upon them; pathology of which includes uncontrollable tweeting of random stupidity and vitriol at any well known person who is not one of their own.

My small "classical" collection is mainly Baroque... Boccherini and Corelli, plus the Bach Cello Suites and some bits from Dvorak and Ravel. I never really gave Beethoven a listen. The word that comes to mind is "explosive" judging by the first few tracks.

not arsenic, the gov't has a gun that van shoot a person that will leave no ivisable holes, it shoots a frozen type bullet that melts once in the body and causes a heart attack,, they knew Andrew Breitbart had heart trouble and he was out walking when this might have occured, try to Google "Gun that the gov't has that does this" I do not remember the site but will try to find it, a woman who worked for the gov't said that this type of weapon does exist. he did not die of natural causes, he knew to much

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Is Obama representing the Aristocracies refusal to share power with the poor and bourgeoisie classes, or the rise of those classes against a cruel and recalcitrant Aristocracy?

Or are these people to stupid to understand the historical references, and simply using a generic struggle against a great power trope that imagines they themselves being a repressed minority and Obama being the all powerful tyrant that they are rising up against?

It's funny. I really dislike opera but you can't keep me away from the dance... ;)

I had a vhs tape of the rehearsal, but that is long gone. It was meant to look a bit like La Bayadere, although I borrowed freely from several choreographers(the music is a lovely tone poem about the Swan of Tuonela swimming on the river separating the living from the realm of the dead. The English horn is the voice of the Swan). My dance days were twenty years, seventy pounds, one broken foot (from a bad tours jete') and two back surgeries ago, ahem. :)

I stick with Warhammer 40k, playing the harp and collecting porcelain china when my spouse isn't looking...

The way facebook comments are set up is fucked. Now you have to log into facebook to see comments on websites? Fuck that. Not now not ever.

I never bit on my space or facebook. I have a google+ page but google knows everything about us anyway so it didn't make much difference. But giving my info to facebook for free when at least google offered as service? F-U Facebook .... :LOL:

If i'm reading comment on IBD, why should I have to log in to facebook to see comments? Fucking stupid and greedy.

If it requires people who want to post comments to reveal their FB account, then I'm all for it. But if you just want to read comments, I don't see why you should have to be logged into anything. Might be a way for FB to make money.

I might have fixed my sister in law's WiFi, the bane of my existence on family trips. Drops all the time, drives me nuts. I had a potential spare router ready and packed on the last trip by my wife didn't want me to crack at it because 'they've never complained.' Argh.

Alone in the house while everybody else busy. Took a crack at getting into setup to check firmware. Found Channel Width at 20MHz/40MHz. That seems like bad juju. Switched to 20MHz.

WiFi not dropped in 30 minutes. This could be the highlight of my year.

Amazing, isn't it? Given the implications of the limited public announcements from the elderly Graham this past election, and the full on ODS from his son Franklin, one would think that some senior elected official would rightfully trash them, no?

Kanye West has reacted to criticism of his heavy use of Auto-Tune on new album 808s & Heartbreaks, claiming that the software has actually made him a better singer.

"I get a lot of backlash for using [Auto-Tune] because it's a tool people use when they can't sing," says West. "What it does for me, if I sing off-key, it really points that out. It points out the bad notes. So what I have to do is sing more perfect".

If some singers from the past, say Astrud Gilberto, had used autotune, they might never have become famous. Gilberto's casual (and untrained) singing style was a lot of her appeal.

Autotune might be helpful for training, but I don't think it would make a great singer sound better, unless they wanted to sound like a robot. I can't imagine Frank Sinatra or Bette Midler through an autotune.

It should surprise no one that the NRA has recently thrown its weight behind an industry campaign to deregulate and promote the use of silencers. Under the trade banner of the American Silencer Association, manufacturers have come together with the support of the NRA to rebrand the silencer as a safety device belonging in every all-American gun closet. To nurture this potentially large and untapped market, the ASA last April sponsored the first annual all-silencer gun shoot and trade show in Dallas. America’s silencer makers are each doing their part. SWR Suppressors is asking survivalists to send a picture of their “bugout bag” for a chance to win an assault rifle silencer. The firm Silencero — “We Dig Suppressors and What They Do” — has put together a helpful “Silencers Are Legal” website and produced a series of would-be viral videos featuring this asshole.

This Silencer Awareness Campaign is today’s gun lobby in a bottle. The coordinated effort brings together the whole family: manufacturers, dealers, the gun press, rightwing lawmakers at every level of government, and the NRA. Each are doing their part to chip away at federal gun regulation in the name of profits and ideology. Together, they plan to strip the longstanding regulatory regime around silencers, and reintroduce them to the gun-buying public as wholesome, children-friendly accessories, as harmless as car mufflers.

In case you’re wondering, the answer is yes, the gun lobby’s grand strategy rests grotesquely on fake concern for child hearing health. Among the opening shots in the campaign was a feature in the February 2011 issue of Gun World, “Silence is Golden,” penned by the veteran gun writer Jim Dickson. “One only has to look at children in the rest of the world learning to shoot with silencers, protecting their tender young ears, to see what an innocent safety device we are talking about here,” writes Dickson. “To use an overworked propaganda phrase, legalize silencers ‘for the sake of the children.’”

Anyone who has a Discus account, go over there like I did, and vote all those assholes' comments down, & all the others goring the wingnuts comments up, so the numbers look a little more even. The only reason those jackholes engage in that kind of behavior is because the other morons over there egg them on by voting their mean-spirited bullshit up, so it just encourages them to do it over and over again.

This is the kind of road warrior injury that Kills many, and I'm not surprised that it's now affected Hillary with all of her junketing and diplomatic travels and troubleshooting. Remember that her four years of non stop service kicked off at the end of a long campaign too. Long hours flying, long hours sitting in meetings, too little opportunity to exercise, it all adds up to circulation complications in the legs sometimes. Dehydration and flu certainly doesn't help. I had a friend who died this way - deep vein clot, it got thrown and went to his heart. He was the tech we always sent flying, and all those long hours sitting got to him.

It's here, dollar a shot AR ammo at Cheaper than Dirt, bulk no less. You would think there was a ravening zombie horde about to descend on us from Canada, the way people are snapping this stuff up. Retailers are not hesitant to seize the opportunity either.

A foiled attempt to murder a police officer in Northern Ireland was carried out by dissident republicans who could also have killed his family, police said.

The Belfast-based Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) constable was about to take his wife and two young children out for Sunday lunch yesterday when he checked under his car outside his house in the city and discovered a viable device.

Assistant Chief Constable George Hamilton said: "If that officer had not checked under his car we would have been looking at a murder or multiple murders."

Serious stuff. I've had DVTs in both legs, one behind my left knee. Extremely painful. I ended up having necrotic flesh, due to the permanent impairment of my circulation, on my shin removed several years later.The one in my right thigh broke off numerous times and the particles went to my lungs and thankfully didn't make it to my heart.

Normal treatment these days is several days of Lovenox treatment in the hospital, and most probably Coumadin for the rest of her life, along with a compression stocking. This could have serious impact on her future ability to fly and on her possible presidential bid.

The NRA reveals the next phase of its pro-gun policy to be implemented after introducing untrained volunteers armed with assault weapons to the nations schools. Wayne LaPierre states that with this new initiative the NRA will gain the wholehearted support and financial backing of the Christian Right...

Bear in mind that the shotgun found in that woman's apartment is a Mossberg 500, a pump action shotgun that no one is talking about banning. So we come to the point yet again that those bent on killing will find a way to kill. Far better than gun control is early detection.

Bear in mind that the shotgun found in that woman's apartment is a Mossberg 500, a pump action shotgun that no one is talking about banning. So we come to the point yet again that those bent on killing will find a way to kill. Far better than gun control is early detection.

Kudos to the NYPD for catching these bastards before they were able to do any damage or worse.

Great. So they want someone to be able to blast up a classroom without all the noise to warn the next classroom across the hall of what is coming. Sounds like a reasonable plan if you are a complete moron.

1. You can listen to "Ride of the Valkyries" without thinking of helicopters
2. You can listen to "Dance of the Hours" without thinking of Camp Grenada
3. You can listen to the "William Tell Overture" without thinking of the Lone Ranger

Thanks to my father a work by Strauss goes "The Blue Danube is not blue, it's brown, ha ha, ha ha."* Not even 2001 broke me from that.

Great. So they want someone to be able to blast up a classroom without all the noise to warn the next classroom across the hall of what is coming. Sounds like a reasonable plan if you are a complete moron.

Sound suppressors don't really make the firing of a gun silent and if you were in the next room you'd know you were hearing gunfire. But what they actually do is reduce noise levels enough to prevent hearing damage as well as reduce sound enough that if you were further away than 50 meters you wouldn't know a gun was fired unless the user fired a burst, which only full-auto weapons can do. Sound suppressors get a bad rap, but their main purpose is to reduce noice levels to prevent hearing damage.

Sound suppressors don't really make the firing of a gun silent and if you were in the next room you'd know you were hearing gunfire. But what they actually do is reduce noise levels enough to prevent hearing damage as well as reduce sound enough that if you were further away than 50 meters you wouldn't know a gun was fired unless the user fired a burst, which only full-auto weapons can do. Sound suppressors get a bad rap, but their main purpose is to reduce noice levels to prevent hearing damage.

Use ear plugs. And the classrooms I was taught in had thick walls that dampened all but the very noisiest room full of kids from interfering with other classrooms.

Newt Gingrich failed in his bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 2012, but not before burning through millions of dollars donated by Jewish casino mogul Sheldon Adelson and sparking considerable outrage by referring to the Palestinians as an “invented people.” Gingrich stood his ground, saying he supported a negotiated peace but that the onus was on the Palestinians.

Morning, Lizards! Apparently, the RWNJs have decided to end the year on a derpy note:

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Yes, because the RWNJs never, ever demonize LGBT people. Ever.

That doesn't sound like George Washington. Here's some more BS quotes I found related to that quote:

George Washington

Perhaps the most ‘infamous’ bogus saying attributed to a Founding Father is the ‘liberty teeth’ quote alleged to have been said by George Washington. One version of this tale reads:

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence. The church, the plow, the prairie wagon, and citizen's firearms are indelibly related.

From the moment the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to ensure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable.

Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 99/100 percent of them by their silence indicate they are in safe and sane hands.

The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference; they deserve a place of honor with all that's good.

I've been busy this winter so not much baking for me. I have recently rediscovered corn bread (Redneck pollenta). Quick and easy to make, stores in the fridge well and comes back to life within 5 minutes in a hot pan.

She went from a nice house to an apartment in NYC. Her next permanent home will be a jail cell. She's come a long way baby!

I almost think that since she's rich and white and can afford a high dollar legal team she might get some special treatment but this looks like a pretty serious situation. NY prosecutors don't mess around with terrorism charges.

A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government

The actual quote:

A free people ought not only to be armed but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well digested plan is requisite: And their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories, as tend to render them independent on others, for essential, particularly for military supplies.
---George Washington's First Annual Message to Congress (January 8, 1790)

Arms in the hands of citizens may be used at individual discretion...in private self-defense.

The quote above was even mistakenly cited by the NRA-ILA in 1996, and was on the NRA's Web site until at least early 1998 (and has spread to many personal Web pages). (Original NRA page preserved here. The erroneous Adams quote appears near the bottom of the page.)

Less common, and worse:

Arms in the hands of the citizens may be used at individual discretion for the defense of the country, the overthrow of tyranny or private self defense.

The correct quote:

To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws.
---John Adams, A Defence of the Constitutions of the United States 475 (1787-1788)

I'll just say this regarding OWS. I went to an Occupy rally once last fall to see what all the fuss was about and it really was nothing more than your usual left wing stuff. It was also rainy and cold as hell that day.

Why do I feel this is just another stall tacit? I have become a real pessimist.

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Anybody want to take bets on her miraculous recovery once Benghazi is past?

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No doubt channeling Vince Foster ….

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Check the medical licenses of the docs attending to her. . .they are complicit in a coverup!!!

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It’s amazing how easily some here are captured by the devil that is liberalism. They see what has taken place in the last 5 years, and see nothing. The Arab spring did nothing but take down quasi allies, and replaced them with islamist that want our deaths. We see our embassies attacked and ambassador killed without raising a finger, no instead they ordered those that could help to STAND DOWN. Those two brave special forces men were killed by mortar fire when the over head drones were ordered to STAND DOWN even though the two were marking the targets with lasers. The lasers allowed the mortars to find them and they died. Treason? Stupidity? or politics? You liberals are all alike deaths mean nothing to you, no only your agenda.

Residents were roused by the police at around 7:30 a.m. on Saturday and relocated while police executed a search warrant. Gliedman, who is pregnant, is also charged with four counts of felony grand larceny for credit card theft that police say occurred in February of this year, and a warrant squad was making the arrest when they noticed "a white powdery substance" in a plastic container in the living room.

Looks like police just got lucky and stumbled across the explosives and weapons.

Really curious about the high frame rate and new Atmos 64 channel sound, so The Hobbit may be the choice. Tough call though.

A lot of folks are saying that the high frame rate makes the movie "too sharp" and reveals things to be "plasticy and fake looking." I guess the complaint is that you lose the softer textures from 24 frames that helped to hide make-up and prop trickery. Don't know myself as I have yet to see it, just repeating what I have read elsewhere.

According to Gliedman's Facebook page, she attended The Dalton School, NYU's Gallatin School, and received an MFA in creative writing at the Art Institute of Chicago. The Post reports that Greene "attended Harvard as an undergraduate and did his graduate work at the university’s Kennedy School of Government" and has "five prior run-ins with the police, with the charges including, assault, and weapons possession."

Angry enough to post his name? I can see that.
I think this style they're promoting these days has anger as it's goal not honesty. They've convinced themselves that anger is an advantage, if they can keep people angry enough they'll win an election.

Deliberately lying to create anger in a political context is an odd echo of what the Islamists do - though I always thought their goal wasn't just power but keeping people angry enough for war, sectarian violence or even genocide, because Jihad.

Every single right wing blog and news site is full of paranoid ranting about OWS today. The world's largest echo chamber.

I just searched quite a bit and I could find nothing online tying Aaron Greene to OWS except that anonymously sourced New York Post article.

So the Post just OWS-boated him and let the echo chamber take it from there. Volume implies that it is meaningful -- until you realize that *all* of them are sourcing from a single unconfirmed article. American journalism at its best!
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I noticed last week that the few commenters who said anything about Hillary over at PJ Media all said that she was faking because of Bangazi...

The stupidity was thicker than ever before as another opined that the Demoncrats are trying to take away our guns so that we will all be beaten up by union thugs like Crowder. We're all so doomed!

Angry enough to post his name? I can see that.
I think this style they're promoting these days has anger as it's goal not honesty. They've convinced themselves that anger is an advantage, if they can keep people angry enough they'll win an election.

Deliberately lying to create anger in a political context is an odd echo of what the Islamists do - though I always thought their goal wasn't just power but keeping people angry enough for war, sectarian violence or even genocide, because Jihad.

Have our religious fanatics learned from their religious fanatics?

Nope. Politics of Fear go way back in history. Probably first page in the playbook of retaining power. Make the followers *fear* something else and keep that fear whipped up. That makes them more easy to control and point at desired targets while distracting from what you are doing on the side for enrichment of your person or sub-set of the tribe.