A. Subby can't spell, even when the word is right there in the headline of TFA.

B. WTF is this sh*t:

We're told Betty Ford's doctors almost NEVER give anyone over the age of 15 the powerful drug, because the docs believe there are plenty of substitute meds for ADHD that do the trick without the addictive qualities inherent in the drug.

First off, it isn't addictive if used as prescribed, and second, if a patient has a history of successfully coping with a problem due to using the stuff, then taking them off of it is a terrible idea, even if you think there might be better alternatives.

"Hey, you basically grew up taking this every day, but f*ck you, we're cutting you off and f*cking your brain chemistry all up so we can feel morally superior."

She's just like Liz Taylor without the talent or class. Middle age is sure to be cruel to her, as in "Why has Vivid Video stopped taking my calls?" cruel. As in "Honey, doesn't that waitress look familiar?" cruel.

They probably took LiLo's pills away from her just so she would shut the fark up.

/I have a doc who writes me scrips for Adderall, but I usually hoard them for special occasions/situations. I'm worried I will build up a tolerance or get to the point where I feel I "need" the stuff to get through a typical day, though the drug would probably help a lot.//Those things are pretty damn expensive, too and my current job pays shiat wages, so I'd have trouble being able to pay to fill all the scrips, anyway.

Sid_6.7:A. Subby can't spell, even when the word is right there in the headline of TFA.

B. WTF is this sh*t:

We're told Betty Ford's doctors almost NEVER give anyone over the age of 15 the powerful drug, because the docs believe there are plenty of substitute meds for ADHD that do the trick without the addictive qualities inherent in the drug.

First off, it isn't addictive IF used as prescribed, and second, if a patient has a history of successfully coping with a problem due to using the stuff, then taking them off of it is a terrible idea, even if you think there might be better alternatives.

"Hey, you basically grew up taking this every day, but f*ck you, we're cutting you off and f*cking your brain chemistry all up so we can feel morally superior."

It's bad enough with all the ADD-deniers.

So, it CAN be addictive if abused? ADD is what is diagnosed to people who's parents didn't know how to slap them down when they acted up.

Psycoholic_Slag:Sid_6.7: A. Subby can't spell, even when the word is right there in the headline of TFA.

B. WTF is this sh*t:

We're told Betty Ford's doctors almost NEVER give anyone over the age of 15 the powerful drug, because the docs believe there are plenty of substitute meds for ADHD that do the trick without the addictive qualities inherent in the drug.

First off, it isn't addictive IF used as prescribed, and second, if a patient has a history of successfully coping with a problem due to using the stuff, then taking them off of it is a terrible idea, even if you think there might be better alternatives.

"Hey, you basically grew up taking this every day, but f*ck you, we're cutting you off and f*cking your brain chemistry all up so we can feel morally superior."

It's bad enough with all the ADD-deniers.

So, it CAN be addictive if abused? ADD is what is diagnosed to people who's parents didn't know how to slap them down when they acted up.

ADHD is fairly commonly misdiagnosed (immediate case in point... all six children in my family were at one time or another diagnosed as ADHD... in five cases that was incorrect) and the medication prescribed for it can mask other issues.

So no, it doesn't surprise me that the doctors took her off of it for a while. It is likely that they want to get a better idea of what mental or emotional problems they're dealing with.

It also doesn't surprise me (or anyone else, for that matter) that Lindsay is objecting to being taken off anything (hey, wasn't she upset that she couldn' smoke at the last one they were going to send her to?). She's going to have to realize that where she is isn't just a nice 3 month stay in the country. This is court ordered rehab, and one of the things that means (in California) is that once a course of treatment has begun, it's 45 days before the court will listen to any petition from Lohan to change anything.

Sid_6.7:A. Subby can't spell, even when the word is right there in the headline of TFA.

B. WTF is this sh*t:

We're told Betty Ford's doctors almost NEVER give anyone over the age of 15 the powerful drug, because the docs believe there are plenty of substitute meds for ADHD that do the trick without the addictive qualities inherent in the drug.

First off, it isn't addictive if used as prescribed, and second, if a patient has a history of successfully coping with a problem due to using the stuff, then taking them off of it is a terrible idea, even if you think there might be better alternatives.

"Hey, you basically grew up taking this every day, but f*ck you, we're cutting you off and f*cking your brain chemistry all up so we can feel morally superior."

It's bad enough with all the ADD-deniers.

Morphine is also a hell of a drug for pain, but doctors realized it can easily be abused and lead to addiction; hence why they tend not to proscribe it.

Riche:Unless, of course, you are saddled with one of those increasingly rare breed of responsible doctors who actually give a shiat about your long-term health.

long term health is what you worry about over the long term.nutfark is in a rehab dealing with short term issues (which probably include her adderall)

one of the things that these places attempt to do, professionally, is remove all of your meds, in a safe environment, wait a bit for them to work their way out of your system and the withdraw crap to pass, AND THEN treat what's left.

I know numerous people who went through this and were able to reduce or eliminate all their meds.Maybe she is completely sane right now, but the massive combination of self-medication is making her nutty?

/I dont know. She will die in the short term if she keeps this up. long term has no meaning unless you fix the short term.

CSBIn the early days of getting treated for severe sleep apnea, I was not sleeping. 1 hour a night is not enough for humans.But the doctors were WORRIED about addiction to sleep pills over the long-term. They were unable to hear the SCREAMING for help in the short term.The damage which was done in the short term, greatly exceeded all possible benefits in the long term.

Sid_6.7:A. Subby can't spell, even when the word is right there in the headline of TFA.

B. WTF is this sh*t:

We're told Betty Ford's doctors almost NEVER give anyone over the age of 15 the powerful drug, because the docs believe there are plenty of substitute meds for ADHD that do the trick without the addictive qualities inherent in the drug.

First off, it isn't addictive if used as prescribed, and second, if a patient has a history of successfully coping with a problem due to using the stuff, then taking them off of it is a terrible idea, even if you think there might be better alternatives.

"Hey, you basically grew up taking this every day, but f*ck you, we're cutting you off and f*cking your brain chemistry all up so we can feel morally superior."

It's bad enough with all the ADD-deniers.

I have ADHD and was diagnosed in my late 30s. Doctor put me on Adderall first and it was like crystal meth light, your body starts to crave it, and it did allow me to focus but it makes you an idiot looking for the dose, and it killed my sleep. I tried 5 different meds and they all made me feel strange.

My supervisor told me after I went through all the treatments that while he liked the productivity that he preferred the eek a squirell theflatline then the zombie eyed guy who sat at his desk for 8 hours slugging away.

They probably took LiLo's pills away from her just so she would shut the fark up.

/I have a doc who writes me scrips for Adderall, but I usually hoard them for special occasions/situations. I'm worried I will build up a tolerance or get to the point where I feel I "need" the stuff to get through a typical day, though the drug would probably help a lot.//Those things are pretty damn expensive, too and my current job pays shiat wages, so I'd have trouble being able to pay to fill all the scrips, anyway.

You could switch to larger dose instant release and cut pills to desired dose. Its much cheaper than extended release, something like $35 a prescription vs $160. Dosing 2-3 times a day is a pain in the ass but my job also pays shiat so you do what you gotta do. Also magnesium supplements and dxm (OTC cough suppressant) have the ability to counter the tolerance of amphetamines, though Im not sure of the long term consequences.

Sid_6.7:A. Subby can't spell, even when the word is right there in the headline of TFA.

B. WTF is this sh*t:

We're told Betty Ford's doctors almost NEVER give anyone over the age of 15 the powerful drug, because the docs believe there are plenty of substitute meds for ADHD that do the trick without the addictive qualities inherent in the drug.

First off, it isn't addictive if used as prescribed, and second, if a patient has a history of successfully coping with a problem due to using the stuff, then taking them off of it is a terrible idea, even if you think there might be better alternatives.

"Hey, you basically grew up taking this every day, but f*ck you, we're cutting you off and f*cking your brain chemistry all up so we can feel morally superior."

You know, I don't doubt there are people who really need that stuff, but Ill be damned if Ive met any in real life. People down here in Austin eat em like skittles and I was just a tad taken back at what a big black market there is for them.

10mg of adderol is not quite enough to let me deal with a 2nd grader and her family when they come to visit.20mg of adderol is enough to almost put me to sleep. Yes, I actually have ADHD and that much stimulant gets me so mellow I feel like I'm going to drool, I'm so relaxed.

GBmanNC:Also magnesium supplements and dxm (OTC cough suppressant) have the ability to counter the tolerance of amphetamines, though Im not sure of the long term consequences.

Hmm that's interesting cause dxm can do the same thing with opioid/opiate tolerance. DXM is like a miracle drug. No really that shiat keeps me from being manic/mixed state and all it takes is tripping every other week.

Bane of Broone:Scary how much I enjoyed that stuff. I could drink heavily and still stay focused to play Team Fortress 2 from 10pm to 5am without the slightest yawn.

Haha I found that I can snipe better while drinking but I'm useless if I'm nodding out.

well, the BULLshiat 12 shiat proven has been proven to be EXACTLY as effective as just quitting on your own. or slightly worse.but that was before the 12 step people stopped all research on 12 step programs.

strangethere is zero evidence that 12 step programs are more effective at reducing relapse than quitting on your ownof course the real problem is creating an actually unbiased, controlled experiment.

I predict that people who were successful with 12 step programs will argue from anecdote.If only there were some way to do experiments on humans.

Love me some Adderall. Had stopped taking my Lexapro against medical advice and found myself in the deepest depression of my life. All I could do on my days off from work was sleep, and then eventually I started calling in sick because I truly couldn't leave the house without panicking. Walked out of my job in tears and went straight to my doc. Adderall is apparently the first line of treatment for severe clinical depression and anxiety because it'll at least, uh, cheer you up so you don't eat a bullet before the SSRIs kick in again.

Don't plan on taking it after the I fill the next scrip because by then the Lexapro will have lifted me out of my funk, but I'm sure glad it exists. Taking care of a LOT of stuff this week that I've been too wrecked to deal with. Yay science.

basemetal:Meh, most of the people who have adderall Rx's better hope they are never truly evaluated for ADD.

I agree with this comment.

My husband was "diagnosed" with ADHD in college. His diagnosis consisted of him going to his doctor, saying "I can't focus on my schoolwork" and his doctor putting him on 75mg of Vyvance.

Two years later, we meet and get married, and I (who was correctly diagnosed as ADHD in the early 80s) notice that he doesn't exhibit ANY symptoms consistent with ADHD. We get him to a doctor. Bipolar II.

There are a large number of doctors who just want to get the patients out the door so they can meet their "x patients per day" quota.

basemetal:Meh, most of the people who have adderall Rx's better hope they are never truly evaluated for ADD.

Amen to this, buddy. Thing is: her behavior from what I have gathered over however long she's had issues is the exact type of behavior a person with ADHD would have. That would mean it's actually cruel to cut her off from the meds. Yet at the same time it could be the best thing to have happened to her. She can get it out of her system and try again after rehab hoping she doesn't get frustrated with the meds and abuse them again. Stimulants aren't meant to be taken forever. That's the issue with ADHD.

Timid Goddess:10mg of adderol is not quite enough to let me deal with a 2nd grader and her family when they come to visit.20mg of adderol is enough to almost put me to sleep. Yes, I actually have ADHD and that much stimulant gets me so mellow I feel like I'm going to drool, I'm so relaxed.

Same here: If you actually have ADHD, Adderall doesn't 'speed you up'. The part of the brain it affects is the part that an ADHD brain needs help with, so, instead of the speed rush, you get a nice, focused feeling, without the incessant need to stripwax something.

Not sure if this applies to other ADHD'ers, but, I don't take mine daily - I take it usually when I need it for work, because I don't 'need' it to function - I need it for the focus. Also, on the days I take it, when it wears off, I have some seriously bizarre attention-based things that happen, presumably because my brain has been bottling up all it's 'normal ADHD stuff that Adderrall has been held at bay. (like leaving a half-full sink of dishes, because I did something in the middle of doing them and forgot to get back to it, or leave milk in a cupboard and cereal in the fridge.)