And why would you bother posting in reply, it is not an answer to my
question,
but in answer to your question, I trust Microsoft because they have never
let me down,
it is not Microsoft's fault that all the Linux using virus writers are so
busy writing
viruses to attack them.

And why would you bother posting in reply, it is not an answer to my
question, but in answer to your question, I trust Microsoft because
they have never let me down, it is not Microsoft's fault that all the
Linux using virus writers are so busy writing viruses to attack them.

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I posted a reply because after all these decades I've learned, across
thousands of computers and networks, to not trust Microsoft with
Security for any reason.

You're confusing what COULD be with what IS - Microsoft chooses to NOT
secure the O/S because it would cost them market share as apps no longer
work, as vendors would have to recode their apps, and because the
foundation of their systems need to be less secure to allow the apps to
communicate between each other as they have (not as they could).

You already know the answer to your question, before you even posted it,
because no vendor provides 100% protection against all malware, because
new variants will always be created, because you're not willing to
secure your OS at the level needed and work with the adjustments you
would have to make.

I posted a reply because after all these decades I've learned, across
thousands of computers and networks, to not trust Microsoft with
Security for any reason.

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I see a lot of anti Microsoft rhetoric that is baseless, people just
do not like success, there are NO secure OS so what do we do,
not run computers??

You're confusing what COULD be with what IS - Microsoft chooses to NOT
secure the O/S because it would cost them market share as apps no longer
work, as vendors would have to recode their apps, and because the
foundation of their systems need to be less secure to allow the apps to
communicate between each other as they have (not as they could).

You already know the answer to your question, before you even posted it,
because no vendor provides 100% protection against all malware, because
new variants will always be created, because you're not willing to
secure your OS at the level needed and work with the adjustments you
would have to make.

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I have never been infected so Microsoft must be doing okay, for crying
out loud, you don't even trust you best friend, well guess what, I do trust
my best friend and Microsoft.

I see a lot of anti Microsoft rhetoric that is baseless, people just
do not like success, there are NO secure OS so what do we do,
not run computers??

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Dan, I'm not Anti-MS, in fact, quite the opposite - I make a LOT of
money installing MS solutions and supporting MS based facilities, and
all of them are secure and running without malware. What I've learned is
that nothing MS produces protects users as well as combinations of
third-party solutions.

You would never catch me depending on MSE on any computer.

I have never been infected so Microsoft must be doing okay, for crying
out loud, you don't even trust you best friend, well guess what, I do trust
my best friend and Microsoft.

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How do you know if you're not testing your machine on a regular basis?

You already posted the MS missed one malware sent by email, how do you
know that your browser doesn't get exploited without you knowing?

Yet another rogue security (fake AV) scareware trojan. You are right to
question MSE's missing of this trojan, but I'm willing to bet it could
be asked of any other "AV Free" antimalware when they miss something
that MSE doesn't. The most important fact that you mention is that *you*
suspected it - it should have gone no further. If you constantly expose
the anti-whatever to new threats, it is sure to miss some.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying MSE doesn't suck. The system MSE uses
needs to have a history if it can hope to rise above the noise.

Okay, I see where you are coming from, I do use other Malware
programs, Spybot, Adaware and Malwarebytes, weekly and I run HJT periodicly.

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Having used about every reputable product on the market, after seeing
something get through my corporate AV solution, one I use on my own
network (or use too), I've switched to Avira and found that it's
catching things that had never even alerted before.

For the time being, I'm sticking with Avira and installing it for
customers.

I just received an email from someone that said it was from
DHL but it contained a Trojan, why did Windows Security Essentials not pick
it up?

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What is a trojan? A trojan is software that pretends to be something else.
For instance, Weather Bug pretends to give you the weather, but when, for
instance, you enter "Miami" for the Miami weather, you begin getting pop-ups
for hotels in Miami when your browser is open. What they're doing is selling
you stuff under the guise of giving you a weather gadget. So, technically
Weather Bug is a trojan. But most people wouldn't call it a trojan. They'd
just call it annoying.

The problem with trojans is one of social engineering. How do you qualify
what a trojan is if the result is something you may want, even if it's not
portrayed that way?

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