Maruti S-Cross : Official Review

This is a discussion on Maruti S-Cross : Official Review within Official New Car Reviews, part of the Team-BHP Reviews category; Originally Posted by shivasi
I had read somewhere that the position is such that the sound hits the front windscreen ...

I had read somewhere that the position is such that the sound hits the front windscreen causing some amount of distortion. When I upgraded, I had the option of either putting the new tweeters in the existing slot of getting it fixed like in the below picture (which is what I did)

I might choose the distortion and put the tweeter inside the inlet intended for that and hope the slight angle of the tweeter reduces the distortions.

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Originally Posted by shivasi

Opening the HU requires specialized plastic pry tool. So make sure you get them instead of using normal screw drivers which might cause the plastic to chip.

The attached video clearly shows the usage of plastic pry tool. I am not sure from where and how to source it, but was thinking of using the guitar pick (thickets of the lot) and see whether I can remove the HU

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Originally Posted by shivasi

Maybe because I had amp installed, the entire work looked complex. It made me nuts at some stage where there were so many wires running around, the dash opened, carpet removed, door panel taken off. So do it if you know what you are doing.

Can you please tell me the size of the OEM speakers? Tried several forums, but failed to get the answer.
May be I missed it, can you also let me know of the upgrades. I am planning to start with inifinity reference 6500 CX (Rs. 4.8k in snapdeal) in the front. The only thing which is stopping me from placing the order is that the pictures on snapdeal do not show a tweeter anywhere though it mentions 'adustable tweeter levels'. Also the cost of the said speakers is very different from that available at say amazon.in putting doubt in my mind.

Thanks a lot for the pictures. Looks like the upgrade is better left to a good installer than attempting for DIY.

The new generation of 2WD cars with high BHP and Torque, like the S Cross, are very capable machines indeed in many ways, but for the most part, their gearing and torque delivery (atleast in the Indian avatar) is best suited to regular driving on highways and on poor roads etc but these are not the best vehicles for that serious hill climbing activity on rough, broken roads, that one may wish to indulge in. These are not really meant for that kind of usage. Great cars though, for the most part and will more or less tick all the boxes for normal use.

Thanks for the great info Shankar!
The only thing which unsettles me is that same terrain was achievable with Ritz VDi's 1.3 engine but I seriously had some trouble keeping the revs of SCross 1.6 going in steep drive. One continuously has to use clutch and even then either the revs go up quite fast and if you try to give it a little breath the revvs go down even faster and it becomes difficult to keep goin.
It certainly was a lot easier with Ritz and I took it places...never had to think twice before taking it anywhere.
May be I am missing a trick here

320DDIS was put to test on the hills @ 3000m altitude.
Performed pretty well, fantastic handling and comfort levels.
However, the engine was gasping for oxygen at times on steep gradients. You need to keep the RPM high to keep it going.

Idle RPM at that altitude was around 1000 RPM. Guess, the ECM alters it with pressure difference.

Hi Kpzen,
Beautiful picture!!
The S-Cross 1st gear under 1800 rpm is its achilles heel ! I went up to Shimla and further up to Thanedar in Dec and everything was wonderfull.... But, we chanced on a road leading to a temple, with steep inclines and no tarmac. I thought my car would do it easy, but ofcourse it didnt.

We had to stop for a jeep coming down and when I tried resuming the incline, the car simply refused. There was no momentum, incline was steep, and there was less traction since the road was dirt.

The first gear without the turbo had no chance, and with the turbo there was no traction since the wheels were being rotated too fast.

How much torque does the engine have without the turbo? I haven't asked this question before, but I guess I would like the engine to , atleast, not stop so easily.
By the way, this is not an issue limited to the dirt roads, I had a similar problem at the rohan noida service station, their driver was trying to take my car up the incline into the workshop, from standstill, and kept stalling the engine.
I told him to get off and did it myself. Handbrake, Turbo revving, it was easy enough for me, but didn't feel happy about it.

Almost tempted to do a remap, but would like to hear expert opinion on the problem before doing anything.

The attached video clearly shows the usage of plastic pry tool. I am not sure from where and how to source it, but was thinking of using the guitar pick (thickets of the lot) and see whether I can remove the HU

Can you please tell me the size of the OEM speakers? Tried several forums, but failed to get the answer.
May be I missed it, can you also let me know of the upgrades. I am planning to start with inifinity reference 6500 CX (Rs. 4.8k in snapdeal) in the front. The only thing which is stopping me from placing the order is that the pictures on snapdeal do not show a tweeter anywhere though it mentions 'adustable tweeter levels'. Also the cost of the said speakers is very different from that available at say amazon.in putting doubt in my mind.

Thanks a lot for the pictures. Looks like the upgrade is better left to a good installer than attempting for DIY.

Girish

I have left the OEM speakers at the shop where I got it fitted. I plan to visit there this week. Will measure the size and get some pictures for you.

I upgraded to Blaupunkt Velocity component series I think. I will get the exact model.

I have Scross 1.6 and from last 3 4 days my car was emitting black smoke .yesterday when I had gone for 80km trip I noticed it got much worse and car was emitting black smoke even on slight acceleration. I have just visited Sai service next to my building and they have confirmed it as well.I have left the car there as they want to examine everything .SA told me there must be some issue with pipes or clips in engine associated with turbocharger. Turbocharger is working normally but yesterday I felt bit performance loss in 1st and 2nd gear.let's hope for best .SA have told me he will call me In sometime.I just hope the issue get solved soon

The S-Cross 1st gear under 1800 rpm is its achilles heel ! I went up to Shimla and further up to Thanedar in Dec and everything was wonderfull.... But, we chanced on a road leading to a temple, with steep inclines and no tarmac. I thought my car would do it easy, but ofcourse it didnt.

I guess you are talking about the famous Jakhu Temple. Getting bogged down on even slightly steep climbs seems to be a DDis trademark. Have done several visits in my Scorpio, and it just climbs on like a mountain goat despite humongous body weight, but had a very tough time in Swift. It is totally dead below 1.8k rpm. That was the first and only hilly visit for my Swift.

I am planning to start with inifinity reference 6500 CX (Rs. 4.8k in snapdeal) in the front. The only thing which is stopping me from placing the order is that the pictures on snapdeal do not show a tweeter anywhere though it mentions 'adustable tweeter levels'. Also the cost of the said speakers is very different from that available at say amazon.in putting doubt in my mind.
Girish

I would recommend buying all your ICE items from a reputed neighborhood audio shop. You would not only get to see & hear the speakers before you pay, but also go back to the shop just incase anything goes wrong.
With online, you would be left running from pillar to post if there are any manufacturing defects or service.
This, after my bad experience with purchasing an Infinity reference subwoofer and it having a manufacturing defect.
The fact that I directly bought it from the Harman Kardon website saved me I guess. But I still had to take it to their local distributor for verification & then wait a week for a replacement to be sanctioned.

The first gear without the turbo had no chance, and with the turbo there was no traction since the wheels were being rotated too fast.

How much torque does the engine have without the turbo? I haven't asked this question before, but I guess I would like the engine to , atleast, not stop so easily...

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.. Getting bogged down on even slightly steep climbs seems to be a DDis trademark. Have done several visits in my Scorpio, and it just climbs on like a mountain goat despite humongous body weight, but had a very tough time in Swift. It is totally dead below 1.8k rpm. That was the first and only hilly visit for my Swift.

Could not agree more with you both.
I have stuck twice on steep inclined once with ritz ddis and the other time with dzire ddis.

And more than once i had to revv/slip clutch to take off on steep inclined slope.

It's surprising that this issue with our so called national engine isn't discussed on this forum/maybe i missed those discussions/maybe there is a way around to handle such situations.

I was looking for an upgrade to my dzire, but now it won't be s-cross for sure, as I frequently travel to hills.

I have Scross 1.6 and from last 3 4 days my car was emitting black smoke .yesterday when I had gone for 80km trip I noticed it got much worse and car was emitting black smoke even on slight acceleration. I have just visited Sai service next to my building and they have confirmed it as well.I have left the car there as they want to examine everything .SA told me there must be some issue with pipes or clips in engine associated with turbocharger. Turbocharger is working normally but yesterday I felt bit performance loss in 1st and 2nd gear.let's hope for best .SA have told me he will call me In sometime.I just hope the issue get solved soon

Bad/Adulterated diesel could be the culprit too. Did you fill in new bunk?

Hi Kpzen,
Beautiful picture!!
The S-Cross 1st gear under 1800 rpm is its achilles heel ! I went up to Shimla and further up to Thanedar in Dec and everything was wonderfull.... But, we chanced on a road leading to a temple, with steep inclines and no tarmac. I thought my car would do it easy, but ofcourse it didnt.
.

Suprised, for the kind of torque this car has, I was expecting it to climb even without accelerating, like the bolero.

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Originally Posted by lovetorque

Hey Girish, its 6.5", the standard size for S-Cross, though 6.75" will also go in easily.

Thanks, I have 6.5 components from my old verna Just need to get it installed.

I will get my 1.3 Zeta S cross next week. Dealer is not ready to give in any discounts saying it's 2016 model. I always wanted 1.6 but couldn't convince dad. I drove both 1.3 and 1.6 back to back today. 1.6 test drive car was 17k run and gear shifts felt smoother compared to my previous drive couple of months back. I took long drive of both cars. Acceleration of 1.6 is brutal and picks up speed effortlessly even above 120 kmph. 1.3 feels miles behind in performance compared to 1.6, but it is no way underpowered. Dealer had only one 1.6 delta 2015 and it got sold today.