yeah we are lucky! hope you get rain soon! its getting desperate now. cool what town do you live in? and do you have a website or face book page? if you do it would be grate to see, send it to my mail=)

We have a fitting serves that mainly deals in Brahmans. we just have 3 cows and 1 bull that we show and breed out of (they are Brahmans). we live 20 km out of Roma and have about 80 acres of planted pasture (We have found that the cheapest and most affective)

did you say you lived in Kingaroy and have Limousins? cause we went to the Kingaroy show a few years ago wen there was a feature thing on there. I might have seen your stud.

We run 200 head of registered Red Angus cattle but do not show. I have nothing against people who show and I have friends who show but real good show cattle wouldn't make it in a production seed stock operation. The EPD's (real life animal trait numbers) on an a show critter are too heavily sided to one area for production livestock. I came to this cite to run cattle the same way as we do on our operation, animals that perform in a feedlot or in a heard. I haven't been on in 3 years but I'm getting back into it.

Studs have a set market and so do commercial cattle. Stud cattle are constantly trying to make better EBV to improve the yielding, meat qualities, structure, birth weight ECT. this improving the overall production and quality of the cattle of Australia and around the world today and into the future. if we slowly put the better traits into the commercials I believe Australia's meet standards and cattle standard would be able to improve and more people would import from Australia. As you said about studs I have nothing against commercial cattle but I do defiantly not think that studs and show cattle ant in a good production line and "wouldn't make it in a production seed stock operation". I think that line was very VERY offensive to the people who put quality and spend generations on making there cattle the very best. Without them the Australian cattle industry would not be to the quality in could be and wouldn't be very good.

I did not mean to be offensive to you or any one else but I was just stating my honest opinion.

since a lot of people that show cattle on here are posting about it maybe this would be a good time to answer my question and get a lot of opinions.

I plan on being an Ag teacher and raising around 50 head of registered Hereford and Angus both. I also plan on having a much larger commercial herd of mainly angus, simple because of the price difference.

but anyways my question is I would love to have show steers for my students to show, as I didn't do it in high school because of the money involved my parents simply couldn't afford. and is my biggest regret, I would like to offer affordable show steers and have the equipment needed to do so. but my question is I know nothing about the show steer sires, I would rather use the big EPD Sires across America, will the sires produce some nice steers that could show? I wouldn't be winning a lot but I would like for them to compete. and I am set on angus and Hereford because of several reasons any cattle person could point out. But I would like to have 2 breeds so students could choose between and they wouldn't be close minded on just angus steers, so I don't want to deal with char crosses or anything like that.

hey!If you would like you could ask me some questions on my email. If I were you I wouldn't be picking Herefords and angus cause in Australia both those breads are starting to die of in the showing game.

I show limos over hear and think there the best to deal with and one of the best quality (and they are pretty big over in America) and for the looks and grooming side of things longer haired cattle are best, and your students could learn how to groom properly.

I honestly think you should do a few causes and watch a few videos on showing and grooming. but first on how to pick good cattle. you can find that out by asking big cattle people on what they think but after a while you'll probably develop your own taste of cattle.

Keep asking me some questions on my email I'll try to answer them as well as possible.

hey!If you would like you could ask me some questions on my email. If I were you I wouldn't be picking Herefords and angus cause in Australia both those breads are starting to die of in the showing game.

I show limos over hear and think there the best to deal with and one of the best quality (and they are pretty big over in America) and for the looks and grooming side of things longer haired cattle are best, and your students could learn how to groom properly.

I honestly think you should do a few causes and watch a few videos on showing and grooming. but first on how to pick good cattle. you can find that out by asking big cattle people on what they think but after a while you'll probably develop your own taste of cattle.

to be honest I think you should make the number of breeders only about 10-15 cause that would be a bit hard for a school to feed them with the costs of feed so expensive and other things (you don't want them going broke=)!!!).

Keep asking me some questions on my email I'll try to answer them as well as possible.