Flyct wrote:I tried to live without a pickup truck but I just couldn't do it.

Yeah, but in your case you are using the right tool for the job. I don't think anyone is going to give you a hard time about that.

Now, not everyone can afford 3 vehicles, but people tend to buy much larger vehicles than they really need, "just in case". Too many people fall victim to the though that "bigger is better".

Agreed. Makes a lot of good food for thought on how the insurance agency bills for insurance. Paying full charges on every vehicle is senseless in this situation and likely a HUGE contributor to emissions as I know a lot of people who think EVs are a good idea but balk at the thought of paying for an extra vehicle...

Flyct wrote:I tried to live without a pickup truck but I just couldn't do it.

Yeah, but in your case you are using the right tool for the job. I don't think anyone is going to give you a hard time about that.

Now, not everyone can afford 3 vehicles, but people tend to buy much larger vehicles than they really need, "just in case". Too many people fall victim to the though that "bigger is better".

Agreed. Makes a lot of good food for thought on how the insurance agency bills for insurance. Paying full charges on every vehicle is senseless in this situation and likely a HUGE contributor to emissions as I know a lot of people who think EVs are a good idea but balk at the thought of paying for an extra vehicle...

If available, PAYD insurance may save a bundle for a vehicle that's infrequently used. I'm saving over 50%/month compared to my old standard insurance policy, and it gives people a financial incentive to drive as little as possible, over and above gas savings. But yeah, nobody is going to complain about someone who uses a pickup to frequently haul stuff. If you live on a farm or ranch, they're pretty much essential vehicles, not fashion statements.

Guy [I have lots of experience designing/selling off-grid AE systems, some using EVs but don't own one. Local trips are by foot, bike and/or rapid transit].

The 'best' is the enemy of 'good enough'.Copper shot, not Silver bullets.

DaveinOlyWA wrote:Unless Nissan changes their plans, Gen II will only be announced this year with a roll out late Q1 of 2018

The difference between December 31 (end of this year) and January 1 (beginning of Q1 next year) is fairly subtle . And it seems likely to me that a detailed announcement of Gen2 with date certain for delivery will, in itself, be a downer for sales of remaining Gen1 and pricing of used vehicles.

DaveinOlyWA wrote:Unless Nissan changes their plans, Gen II will only be announced this year with a roll out late Q1 of 2018

The difference between December 31 (end of this year) and January 1 (beginning of Q1 next year) is fairly subtle . And it seems likely to me that a detailed announcement of Gen2 with date certain for delivery will, in itself, be a downer for sales of remaining Gen1 and pricing of used vehicles.

Ok, I will be clearer. For most of the early areas, they are not expected on the lots till March. The statement by Nissan that they will be available "as early as late December" is basically another way of saying we will issue a handful of early publicity deliveries to generate excitement....

Should Nissan stop dicking around and move that timetable up? Well that is an obvious answer but will they? They should have released it in September but instead all we are getting is an announcement. So Nissan went from the expectation they would be first with the next gen but with slightly less range because of the earlier entry to being last and still with the less range.

Pretty obvious that the delay is due to switch over in battery suppliers.