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March 12th, 2013
Will He Or Won’t He? Trevor St. John On If He Will Be Back On One Life to Live!

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Soap fans have been recently bringing up Trevor St. John’s name in the rumor mill as possibly returning to the online version of Prospect Park’s One Life to Live! With Roger Howarth’s (Todd) set to tape numerous episodes over a four week period next week and then heading back to General Hospital for now, could that mean a story is in place for the return of Victor Jr.?

Well according to the latest issue of Soap Opera Uncensored,Nelson Branco spoke to St. John who offered up his comment on if a return is in the works! Trevorelated, “No, no one has asked me back to One Life. I wish them the best of luck with the show, however, Jennifer Pepperman is a great director and will surely make a great EP.”

Now as One Lifers know, St John denied his return to One Life to Live for the ABC grand finale, when in fact, he was the show’s final and ultimate zinger of a cliffhanger!

Do you think there is a plan for Trevor’s return in some way? Or, do you think it’s a true “no-go” for one of soap operas all-time greatest performers? Let us know your thoughts!

I agree! RH did a great job or originating the role, but TSJ made it more complex and interesting. Also RH quit OLTL several times. TSJ never quit and had a very rough time being accepted and was unfairly criticized at first. I would like to see both, at least part of the time. If I have all the twists and turns right, TSJ is the real Todd and RH is Victor Jr, There is a clue in what Irene said.

BTW has anyone else noticed TSJ is a cop (of all things) on The Client List with JLH?

I think the clue was that Victor was suppost to be(special) and so Trevor has to be the real Todd cause anyone can see he is intelligent and RH is messed up in the head as in (special)

Chris replied March 26th, 2013 at 8:27 pm

I think the clue is how she described Todd’s scar. The real Todd was scared by Marty, so she said she scared Victor to look like him. Then one of them had a facelift to look like TSJ. If that was Victor, she wouldn’t have had to scar him. She had to scar Victor to pass as Todd so he would do her bidding. So TSJ has to be the real Todd and Victor has to be RH because he now has the scar. I hope PP brings back TSJ. And I did see him on The Client.

Sheila Thomas replied March 28th, 2013 at 3:28 pm

RH is the real Todd, and TSJ was revealed as his twin brother Victor. I think it would be a very wise decision to bring TSJ back. He was a pivotal character, and the show will not be the4 same without him. Besides, he was revealed to be alive and tied to a bed and gagged at the final showing of OLTL. They will have to address this issue.

Onelifefan replied August 23rd, 2013 at 4:02 pm

Omg I so believe that TSJ is the real Todd because over the years he has made me see how much he cares for his family he saved Blair and his kids a lot of times and do anybody remember how Blair can feel when something wrong with him if RH is the real Todd why could not Blair tell that something was wrong with him because he is Victor

Kathleen replied March 23rd, 2013 at 12:42 pm

I’m a huge Trevor St. John Fan. I really hope he returns. So if the Powers that be read this blog. Bring Trevor back. That’s what the fans want!!!

I would so love to have Trevor back!!!!!!!! He and Florencia Lozano were awesome together. (I know I’m in the minority here but I think Trevor did a much better job playing the many layers of Todd Manning than Roger does. But, that ship has sailed.) I think it would be fantastic to see how the character develops as Victor Lord, Jr. I know Trevor has moved on with his career and is doing other things. Perhaps with the rotating shooting schedule between OLTL and AMC, he could squeeze in time for his Llanview family. I certainly hope so.

Hey Llanviewer, Actually that ship has not sailed, it is very easy to write around what RC did and make RH Vic Jr and send him back to GH and The Real Todd can stay on OLTL

I completely agree with you’s RH can’t hold a candle to TSJ and his Todd. Trevors Todd had so many layers and he went threw so much from being Raped ((Karma)) to almost being executed which there is NO WAY IN HELL RH could have pulled that off!! The execution scene is considered one of the best scenes in Daytime History and that says something! You aren’t in the minority you are in the majority with the rest of us

I must co-sign this as well. I never cared for Todd until TSJ entered the role. TSJ brought a depth and complexity to the role that was obviously lacking. Just by watching TSJ and his portrayal of Todd, I gained an appreciation for the craft of acting that I never had before.

1loveabcsoaps replied March 23rd, 2013 at 9:46 pm

Started reading this entire page bc your conversations were so good. Gosh, I wish you could read mine and year back.

Robert Seganti replied March 12th, 2013 at 8:04 pm

I have been watching daytime dramas since the 1950′s.Trevor st. John is one of the handful of finest ,most interesting actors in the history of the genre.If they don’t want him I have misgivings about what Prospect Parks’s vision for is really all about.The elegant,sensual,unpredictable Todd (now Victor Lord,Jr.)as opposed to the crude,one-dimensional ,soulless Todd portrayal of Roger Howarth.

Utter nonsense. As much as I enjoy TSJ, and I do agree he is a great actor, he is NOT better at being TODD than the man who made the character who he was. Anybody that thinks otherwise needs to go back and re-watch the scenes from the 90′s…then you’ll see the real multi-layered, tortured soul of a man that so many of us fell in love with. TSJ played Todd in 2 layers – angry and sarcastic. While I settled for it for 8 years, I jumped for joy when Roger came back (though the writers have made many changes to him that I don’t agree with).

You are probably an RH fan, so you likely don’t understand what we are referring to when discussing TSJ’s approach to the role. I have noticed that some people get TSJ’s approach to acting and others just don’t. All I can say that I watched the role of Todd from the beginning and never cared about the character until after TSJ started playing Todd. I didn’t even watch TSJ’s performance the first few years he played the role because that was how irrelevant the character of Todd was to me. It wasn’t until some fans started talking about TSJ’s chemistry with REG that I decided to watch him and I immediately noticed a difference in how he played the role of Todd. For the first time ever, I was interested in Todd’s storylines because TSJ’s portrayal allowed me to relate to the character in a way that I never could when RH played the role. I have nothing against RH personally, I just don’t care for rapists and don’t find them interesting or entertaining. So the fact that I’m even here talking about this character is solely because of TSJ’s performance. It really spoke to me. You are free to disagree with me but that doesn’t change the truth of my experience.

Joliefan Farever replied March 14th, 2013 at 5:32 pm

I watched both RH and TSJ’s Todd and hands down TSJ and his Todd is 1 million times better and TNT I agree with you, I was not even remotely interested in Todd or his storylines until he came back as Walker. I was tired of watching OH PITTY ME Todd that RH portrayed, I also did not like the ” Oh there are other ppl on this planet all I see is me” Todd that RH portrayed. RH Todd was a selfish, egotistical Dimensionless character who could see no one other than himself! After TSJ took over we got to see Layers and insight in to Todd and what makes Todd Tick, Todd got kicked in the teeth by Karma when Margaret came in to his life being raped really changed Todd and it helped him to let go of his hatred towards YUCKY and started to understand her and what it was that he & the Brothers took from her that summer night. Todd would give his life for his kids, RH’s Todd sells them off. TSJ on every acting level blows RH out of the water! RH could never ever pull off that Execution story line, one of the best in daytime history.

Joliefan Forever replied March 14th, 2013 at 6:55 pm

I watched Both RH and TSJ play Todd Manning and I am sorry but the real Todd is not RH it is TSJ. RH’s Todd was nothing but a revenge driven egomaniac with no dimensions. All he ever saw was him, the world revolved around him, there is no one else on the planet but him Oh pitty me Crud. When TSJ took over the role of Todd, you got to see what made Todd tick, you got to see all the layers that Todd Manning has, you got to see his vulnerability etc. Todd went threw life changing things. Todd got kicked in the teeth by Karma when Margaret walked in to his life, that rape really changed Todd and the way he saw and dealt with YUCKY because he finally understood what him and his frat brothers took from her that Spring night. Todd was 2 seconds from death thanks to Spencer Truman that also changed Todd, Todd would die for his kids and grandkids, RH’s Todd Sells them…….Sorry But RH is not even in the parking lot of the ball park TSJ is in and Sorry but TSJ is Todd Manning IMHO!

dasyrose replied March 22nd, 2013 at 7:58 pm

You must be blind. Roger H. as an actor has one face. When he went to soap As the world Turns, he played a different character but Lord knows he was still Todd. Roger H. does not have the ability to get in and out of character. Why do you think he is only relegated to day time. Trevor is a more rounded actor. Very few actors weather they be movie, night-time or stage, can hold a candle to him. He is the real deal and the fact that he’s absolutely mouth watering is an added bonus.

OLTLfan replied March 24th, 2013 at 8:10 pm

FYI, Roger didn’t just do daytime. He was on Dawson’s Creek, a primetime show back then, and had his own show called Prey. See, you don’t even know the actor, so how can I trust that you know what you’re talking about?
I assume the majority of the people who seem to think TSJ is Todd (despite the fact that even the show said he ISN’T and never was) either did not watch or remember the character of Todd prior to 2003. Because from I can tell, most of us that did watch, are in the RH camp. Seriously, the stories are all on YouTube, and I beg you to go back and watch them. The scenes with him apologizing to Marty, and even terrorizing Nora at the cottage….utter brilliance. Do not judge based on the character now. Ron C does not know this character, and has changed him quite a bit from the pre-2003 days (especially on GH). And remember one thing. Todd Manning was originally supposed to be “Frat Boy #1″ for ONE story – the rape. After that, the character would have been history…but RH’s huge fan base pleaded with the show to keep him. They did, otherwise there never would’ve been a “Victor Lord Jr.” for TSJ to play.

1loveabcsoaps replied March 23rd, 2013 at 9:41 pm

You ARE NOT in the minority. Not according to this site and over all popular opinion. Know one will EVER play Todd like TSJ. That man takes Todd places that we the fans have NEVER seen before.
And you can put that in your pip and smoke it.

I think part of the “rumor” started when OLTL tweeted on March 1: “#FF our awesome #OLTL cast” and listed several actors. TSJ’s name was listed. (https://twitter.com/onelifetolive/status/307546674597859328) So, I don’t understand why they’d tweet that if it wasn’t true, or why they’d tweet it if it was a secret that TSJ is now lying about. I also don’t understand why they would tweet that and then never confirm it or announce it. It’s confusing. I sure hope he returns, it only makes sense to bring him back to at least finish his storyline.

Yes! I immediately thought of that tweet. Why would OLTL tweet that TSJ was part of the cast if he’s not making an appearance? Then again, Prospect Park announced this week that Roger Howarth is a cast member, getting fans’ hopes up when in fact he’s filming for a month & returning to GH. There is certainly some miscommunication. Why?

About the RH thing, I got the feeling that maybe RH was filming OLTL for a month, then returning to GH, then possibly returning to OLTL again, and back and forth. I think OLTL is filming something like 5 weeks on, 5 weeks off, so I thought that’s what they meant. IDK. It all very confusing. I have a feeling that TSJ will probably be back and that it’s supposed to be a secret and so he’s lying about not being contacted. Maybe someone let it slip on Twitter and they weren’t supposed to. IDK

Truthfully i do hope he is coming back…he was a definite asset to OLTL…besides tea needs her man and he deserves to come back…he is a wonderful actor as indicated when he took over the role of todd when roger decided he wanted to leave…please bring treavor back.

He didn’t say that he wasn’t returning. He said that no one had asked him back. That can be twisted easily. I believe he will be back unless he says, emphatically, I will never, ever, work on OLTL again. And even this, in soapland, never isn’t always forever!

TSJ back in Llanview would be great, but I guess we will have to tune it to see. Let’s enjoy the anticipation and not ruin it with specualtion and spoilers.

I do hope for a satisfactory ending to the Twin Todds story, even if there must be a recast (considered by many to be a sin but…). I am ready to move on from that plot line if need be. There are plenty stories to mine in Llanview. I persoanlly wouldlike to see me socially consicious storytelling characteristic of the early years of OLTL.

I hope he return but understand if he does not. I will be disappointed because him and Florencia Lozano are simply amazing together. I will keep my fingers crossed for a Tea & Victor reunion and seeing TSJ on OLTL 2.0.

Victor Jr and Trevor should come back. I understand if the actor is busy but they can offer him roles on the other PP shows and they get 5 Weeks off to do other projects. He could make it happen but if not they should recast the role.

Trevor claimed he wasnt returning to OLTLs finale when it was onABC, and then suprised fans when he appeared in the very last scenes. How do we know he’s not going or is going to show up. Maybe he’ll suprise fans again and we’ll see him back on the show. It would make great story to have a business war between two rivals who were brothers….Todd and Victor. But if he doesnt return they could recast.

I meant to say last scene, and wouldnt he have to come back to do that short scene? lol Even if not Trevor, id like to see Victor return. Thanks 4 reply.

Joliefan Forever replied March 12th, 2013 at 6:50 pm

Shut up Su0000! OMFG every effen post there you are talking like you know everything and like you know these ppl personally!! And yes he did come back no matter how short it was! So really SU give everyone a break and just quit!

Holly replied March 12th, 2013 at 7:54 pm

I read a while ago where he said he didn’t want to return to soap operas, that it hurt his career some how. However, I truly believe that if he were asked, he would, at least to finish up the storyline. I just can’t think of how they’d write him out again if he doesn’t want to stay. I don’t want Victor and Tea to break up, and I don’t want him to die again. lol

su0000 replied March 12th, 2013 at 8:06 pm

I want TSJ back too .. I hope he will be a surprise return !!

Joliefan forever replied March 13th, 2013 at 1:35 pm

Hey Holly,
He said that the he did not like the hectic scheduling of doing a soap for a Network ((They barely get any time off)). But with the 5 week on 5 week off scheduling I think TSJ will really like as it still allows him to do other projects…..I think he is coming back to reprise the Role of Todd Manning…..

Christine replied March 13th, 2013 at 9:23 am

Joliefan Forever,

What is with all the hostility and implied foul language? Is it really needed? Can’t we all make our points without being nasty to each other or face an attack from someone who does not share the same feelings we do?

Let’s all try and get along and keep Michael Fairman’s site a place that we all enjoy coming to.

I agree Christine. I feel some of the other rudeness has rubbed off on me and i ended up doing the same. And im working to change that. We can agree and disagree without taking it too far. And the same goes for our soaps. They dont have to trash talk and actors dont have to prostitue themselves by going even a little farther in their already hot enough sex scenes just to entertain us. There is other ways to be groundbreaking if needed. Our families used to spend more time together and we keep finding more and more ways to pull them apart. Its bad enough Hollywood segregated our families over the last forty years with a rating system because we need to hear cussing or see a little t&a. And now they are doing it with our tv shows and internet. That stuff isnt called obscene for nothing. There is nothing wrong with the human body but to use it for entertainment just to make a buck is wrong. Sex sells they say and im sure many prostitutes will agree with them but if prostitution is wrong so is Hollywood for selling it too. And if theyr going to show it then dont show just the good side show the bad side as well if they want to be real. Show all cases of unwanted pregnancy,incest, child molestation and pornography, human trafficking, STDs and dont 4get aids is still out there. What bugs me is some days people will ask whats wrong with todays generation? We dont teach morals, responsibilty, or respect for each other. We teach our kids today how to be rude and vulgar instead. I feel sorry for the next generation and dont even want to think what their life will be like. Call me old fashion but ill take that title any day over what a lot of this generation has been calling each other.

Joliefan forever replied March 13th, 2013 at 1:51 pm

Christine,
My language was not Implied I told her to STFU! She runs all over this page talking like she is some authority and she has gotten IGNORANT with a few ppl I happen to know and has gotten ignorant with me before! Remember there are always 2 sides to every story!

Christine replied March 13th, 2013 at 8:40 pm

Yes, Joliefan forever, you may have a beef with some other posters, but to me, at least, resorting to foul language regarding a TV show makes you appear uneducated and immature. I am not saying that you are, but I usually do not bother with people who do that and especially cannot formulate sentences. I feel if you have something to say, that present it in a manner that is legible and do not make everything like it is a text message.

I also know there are two sides to every story. I was not taking sides and I am sure you have valid points. It was just about the “effen” and the “OMFG” that I took offense to. Not to mention that you outright told the person to shut up.

These things can get out of control if you let them and what is it worth really? I guess this is how road rage gets started. It doesn’t seem like people WANT to listen to what others have to say unless they agree.

I see the post by “Margie” and then the post made by “su0000″ below it. I use this as an example because he/she appeared to be joking around. At least for me when I leave a it is to show that I am not hear to start trouble. I am having fun.

Honestly, Joliefan forever, I have nothing against you as a person. I am just hoping that we could all listen to what everyone has to say without attacking and being so aggressive.

Joliefan Forever replied March 14th, 2013 at 6:59 pm

Hey Christine,
I don’t know where you think I typed in TXT talk but ok. When you have read enough of her posts I’m sure you will see that her little smiles after her chastising is nothing more than her being a wise ass. Sorry that the Word effen offended you but I think I should be able to use it on this adult site when it is called for after all it is not the curse word itself.
I have no problem with you either Christine……I hope you have a great night and GO OLTL!

Corrie replied March 15th, 2013 at 7:25 am

“When it is called for”

When is a swear word ever really “called for”? You say it should be able to be used on an adult website and I think, that’s exactly why it shouldn’t be used. I am more impressed with points made by people who don’t need profanity to make them.

Joliefan Forever replied March 15th, 2013 at 11:29 pm

And that is your Opinion. I am an adult and I can use whatever Language or Words I like. Thank you….

You can’t trust anything he says. He covered up his return for the show’s network finale. Why not just say “no comment” instead of leading the fans on? My guess is that Roger’s return as Todd is tied directly into Trevor’s return as Victor.

Do you ppl know what a Confidentiality means?? It means that he can’t say anything…..So was Steve Burton a Liar to because he was not allowed to say anything about leaving until ABC said he could? And said in Interviews that he was not leaving knowing the whole time he was indeed leaving?

I find the whole thread funny because Mr. St. John never really says anything when interviewed, at least he does not answer the burning questions.

And you are definitely barking up the wrong tree if you think I thought Steve Burton was a liar. I have always said the man was to do what was right for him and his family only and he did not have to answer to ANYONE.

Joliefan forever replied March 13th, 2013 at 1:54 pm

“I find the whole thread funny because Mr. St. John never really says anything when interviewed, at least he does not answer the burning questions.”
I think Trevor is great at keeping his fans on the edge of their seats on or off screen LOL

Christine replied March 14th, 2013 at 9:20 am

I agree, Joliefan forever. He is good at doing that. Unfortunately, too much saying “no” all the time when the answer is really “yes” makes people doubt him, which is okay. I mean we are talking about a JOB on a TV SHOW, not something that has to do with breaking the law or something much more substantial.

Joliefan Forever replied March 14th, 2013 at 7:05 pm

But you know what I think a lot of Soap fans don’t understand is that it is not them, If they are told you can not say anything then they can’t and it should not go against them. I expect them to not really tell the whole truth as they are censored on what they can and can not say and again tho that is not their faults that they are censored. I loved the “Shock” of seeing him in the last scene and I will give Frank Props for that he kept that real tight lipped and even had Trevor snunk in threw the back for the taping, his cast mates had no idea either, Now that is some CIA stuff LOL

I really hope he comes back, and if Prospect Park is smart, as soon as they sign him back they need to announce it to the world! Trevor was a wonderful asset to the show and a huge fan favorite. What better way to ensure that legions of fans tune in, than to see Victor Jr. back in LLanview?

TSJ IS WHY I WANT OLTL BACK ,IF THEY HAVEN’T ASKED HIM .IT WOULD BE THEIR WORST MISTAKE THEY COULD EVER MAKE.!!!!AND I TOO BELIEVE HE WAS A BETTER TODD ,HE IS WHY I BECAME A FAN OF OLTL AND FLO MADE EVEN BETTER WITH TREVOR.SO PLEASE PP BRING HIM BACK.

Yeah, you never know. If I had to place bets, I bet he’s coming. I find it hard to believe that he wasn’t asked, so for me that’s a tip off to something….He did fib when he said he wasn’t coming back to the finale of OLTL. Also, actors are asked to not saying anything for shock/suprise value. Ingo Radamacher said he had to lie too. So, you never know. We shall see. I’m looking forward for the 1st episode regardless:)

I do hope that he returns! That storyline needs resolution! My theory? Todd’s memory of killing Victor was implanted by Irene when they both were held captive under her control. My guess is that Irene is still alive and conspired with Allison to kidnap him, as well as shoot Vikki (which she intended to do). I would love to see all the Lords interact & reunited – including Tina!

Oh my gosh! I’d love to see Tina, Todd, Viki, and Victor together! They’ve never all four had scenes together. I can only imagine, it’d be hilarious! Todd and Victor would gang up on Tina and pick on her and Viki would try to play referee! lol

I am hoping he’s coming back! I too think he is a better Todd and he is phenomenal with Tea! When Roger came back I thought they missed the boat not having the two work together more. I loved that they were twins and they palyed that part well. I do like Roger and Sam together… but otherwise I think TSJ was a better Todd. I have enjoyed Roger on GH but it’s because of the characters he’s been working with… I think. If they were smart they would have them both shoot a large amount of stuff together before either of them takes off. TSJ was and is my favorite male OLTL actor!

I still wish they had left Trevor as Todd. He always plays complicated Todd well. Of course he would not move to Cali coz he loves New York. Don’t get me wrong Roger is hilarious but Ron writes Todd the wrong way now. Todd is desperate to be with a woman he barely knows and he’s borderline cartoonish.
All aspect on who Todd is or was has gone out the window. Plus i hate the way they have Roger’s Todd panting after Carly as if Todd and Blair never existed. That’s so rude of any writer to do. Then they have Carly panting after Todd that she also barely knows. Laura was/is the biggest CarJax fan. To pimp Tarly (Todd & Carly) is disrespectful to GH history on every level. Worse is when her Co-actor Ingo is out there and he’s like a distant memory.
Everything is so messed up.
I want Trevor back as Todd but I also prefer him as Todd.
Do I WANT Trevor back? Yes!
Do i think he was approached? Oh Hell Yeah!
Do I think he’s negotiating? I HOPE so!
And do I honestly believe that he’d not miss the opportunity to work with Florencia ,Kelley Missal and Patruck Gibbons Jr , Erika Slezak and get to work with Roger since their scenes last time were short lived? Yes!

That’s my take and that way the whole Two Todd’s storyline can get wrapped up!

I always thought I liked Roger Howarth better as Todd, then he came back and I don’t like him as much as TSJ.The way he’s being written on GH is even worse. Hope TSJ comes back as Victor, I do like him. Good Luck OLTL – can’t wait!

THIS would truly make my year–to have Trevor St. John come back. Could you imagine the banter between Victor and Todd? Why not throw in a little David V and what a threesome that would be!! Love, love, Trevor SJ

I think this is the same thing that happened last time. He kept saying oh no I am not returning they did not ask me, and whamo there he was! Think about it they can not let it out if he is coming back it will spoil the story line. That story line is not over, if the story line was over they would have not shown him all they had to do was have “Todd” arrested and that is the end, They showed the Real Todd (TSJ) at the end for a reason. I can not wait for April 29th, I just have a very strong feeling that we will see The Real Todd again…

Yes please do bring him back! At least to clear Todd’s name for killing him…and to have all of those who were suppose to love Todd to say they are sorry! It’s funny how the two women who loved him so much couldn’t tell who they weren’t sleeping with…lol Todd had his life stolen from him and he was the one punished! Let’s just clear it up now!

They have to, it is the only way that Todd and Tea going forward will get any closure. If the show was still on, they would brought him back months ago. I assume that was going to a major story for the online version, since was the OLTL cliffhanger.

Nobody ignites the screen (or sheets) like TSJ & Flo! I grew to like RH when I started watching GH. He’s really good at playing a comedic Todd, but I still want TSJ to be Todd. I started watching oltl when Andrea Evans went back following Passions.

I hope they undo the horrible endings from the show, especially deaths of characters (Ford, his crazy dad, Eddie, etc.). They need to keep the good crazy people (Allison, Mitch, Eddie).

Oh god NO not Ford LOL…..I hate Ford, They never used the character Eddie like they should have IMHO. We all know how Mitch is I’m sure he is not dead LOL, And Allison is holding Todd hostage. I don’t care what anyone says TSJ is Todd Manning……

I hope Trevor does come back! I am totally enthralled by him. I cannot stop watching when he is vulnerable and in need of love and forgiveness (in that elevator, thinking his baby boy had died!). Yet, I am terrified by him when that switch flips and he screams at someone or beats them (like with Cole…that was VERY difficult to watch). He is such an incredible talent and integral part of OLTL. Nothing at all against RH, but it would be wonderful if they DID make the reveal that TSJ is the real Todd. Just my humble opinion, but I want him to return to OLTL sooo badly!!!

I WILL BE VERY DISSAPPOINTED IF TSJ IS NOT PART OF THE REBOOT. INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT THERE HAS BEEN NO MENTION OF BARBARA GARRICK RETURNING. WHY DID ALLISON HAVE VICTOR TIED TO THE BED?
TREVOR! COME BACK!!!!

Ditto!!!! It really is not that hard, to Undo RC’s Crud…….RC left so many holes in that Story line as he did not follow the history of Todd and what exactly happened after Todd was left for Dead by Mitch’s goons, Which is how he came back looking like Walker & that had NOTHING to do with Irene she is not the one that came up with the idea Todd did, He paid Walker for his likeness and Family history in order to get revenge on Mitch and keep his family safe, If Mitch had found out that Todd was alive he would have gone after Blair and the kids…….I think Irene and Mitch had an affair and RH is their son whom they used to take over Todd’s life, Irene used her Rogue CIA agent to gather any and All info on Todd and Mitch Brainwashed his son with the info and Irene put her son threw reconstructive surgery Irene knowing about the face change Todd had done she made him look like Todd did in college including the scar, The first DNA test was fixed by Allison, And the second test Irene had Allison switch RH’s Hair sample with hair from Todd that Irene had (She cut a lock of his hair before sending him off to Peter Manning). Mitch sent Walker to Kill Todd so his son could completely take over his life and no one would be the wiser, That is why Todd was so shocked when he saw the person at his house. RH Vic Jr gave Walker the gun he stole from Dorians safe, Walker and Todd struggle over the gun and Walker is Shot, When Todd leaves to get help he is ambushed by Vic Jr whom was waiting outside for Walker and knocked out Todd, went in the house and saw Walker dying on the floor and left him there to die (while Vic Jr takes Todd to Allison and tells her to keep him there until she hears from his father Mitch) and that is who Tea sees when she comes home and that is who is buried in Todds Grave and that is why the last words spoken were “Not everything is as it seems…….” JMO

Autumn replied May 1st, 2013 at 8:58 am

Wow! That’s a brilliant idea. You sure know your stuff.

When the question first came up about “Victor’s killer” I said that by Victor’s reaction it had to be the last person anyone, especially Victor would’ve expected to see. Right off the bat I said it must’ve been Flinn (aka Walker Flinn-Lawrence) becaues there was no solid proof that Flinn actually died in that boobie trap, elevator drop at the penthouse. Also, I’ve never belived that somehow Todd was autistic Victor Jr. and there was this grand plan in place to steal Victor Sr.’s money all this time.

This thing had plotholes and dead-ends for days. Your theory sounds more plausable and intriguing than the official explaination for the two Todds thing. If TSJ does come back I hope the storyline runs atleast closely to your theory.

If TSJ returns, I would like him to be victor and to clear up the storyline that he wasnt killed by Todd. I dont want a storyline (after RH returns to GH) that TSJ is actually Todd. RH is the only Todd in my opinion and I dont want him recast on GH as another character. TSJ is a good actor but not as good as RH. His comment indicates he wasnt asked to return to OLTL.

Well you might not have a choice PP does not have to let GH or RH use the character of Todd Manning and I hope they don’t! GH already has resident bad boy SONNY! Todd Manning is our bad boy on OLTL and that is where Todd Manning Belongs and the Real Todd TSJ!

Never in the history of any soap character has a person took over a role from a popular and award winning performer, and so played the character so compellng…. on many multi dimentional levels, and so convincing that for the originator of the role Roger Howarth, it became Roger Howarth ” who ” as Todd Manning?

Lmao

In other words, Howarth was the imposter Todd Manning.

Sorry Roger, you can act, but U aint got nothing on TSJ playing Todd.

Waltina replied March 13th, 2013 at 9:29 pm

Trevor is the only Todd as far as I am concern. He made the role of Todd his own with his handsome self, but it really was the acting that impressed me. I had been a fan of Roger’s Todd, but he decided to give up the role. When TSJ took over the role of Todd it took me some time but i love Trevor in the role of Todd Manning and hated when Roger came back. Trevor had made the character of Todd his own in a more mature way. I knew when Roger came back it was over for Trevor, because he saw the writing on the wall. He was pushed out, tho some believe he was going to leave before it was announced that Roger was coming back. Remember how fans was all happy, and saying Trevor never was Todd to them, they was glad the “Real Todd was coming Back”, I will never forget how fans was disrespectful to Trevor after the 7 or 8 years he played Todd on OLTL, and in the end the ABC, the producers,writers, and fans treated him like crap. Because the “Golden Boy had no JOB and took the character of Todd back from Trevor with a pat on the back from ABC and the Fans. I’m not sure of how I would feel if he came back, the way he was treated. But do love TSJ and FL together. The only thing I can really say is if I PP General Hospital would not use the 3 characters name (Todd,Starr, and John). I would let General Hospital explain who these three people,and why were they using someone elses name. Why did Tea and Blair come to PortCharles to see them? I believe that part would be interesting seeing that explained. But PP doesn’t owe GH anything or the actors who played their characters that was created on OLTL. The new writers of GH took a chance in bring character from their previous soap instead of creating new characters.

Great Post Waltina. One of the things I don;t agree with is that statement that the fans turned on him, The RH fans turned on him his True Blue fans never turned our backs on him, And we all know that TSJ is Todd Manning….I was mad also at the way RH’s fans treated Trevor and his DEDICATED 8 years of Playing that character, Another thing about TSJ is he did not bounce on the show for a total of 5 years like RH did. Frank and Ron are the ones that TSJ said he did not want to work with since they are not with PP THANK GOD LOL I think he is coming back. I’m sorry but there is no way TSJ should have been thrown over for RH All because BF & FV have a boner for him!
I also agree with the statement that PP owes nothing to GH and I hope they are smart enough to not let GH use them characters like you said let them explain away everything they did and why these 3 actors are now completely different characters……

1loveabcsoaps replied March 23rd, 2013 at 9:28 pm

Waltina, I was so ‘charmed ‘ by the second sentence in your post.
( He made the role of Todd his own with his handsome self…) The man is some kind of handsome. When he first come on, he looked so much younger than Blair, but I guess those long days and hours caused him to mature in the face and he just became more and more handsome. Yes, abc and some of the fans (not all of them) were disrespectful to TSJ when Howarth came back, but mostly I blame ABC and OneLife. Last year on this site in Jan, Feb and March I blogged about this until I was hands turned blue. I am happy to read that there are people who feel the same way I do. I did hear that TSJ asked to be released from the role, but extended his stay based on the storyline with RHowarth returning. Then when OneLife was cancelled, St John asked to stay on until the end and abc/OneLife wouldn’t allow him and then Howarth got a job as Todd while the rest of the loyal OneLifer’s went on the unemployement line. I will never forgive abc for that poor choice. Star, and Todd (RH) need to take there happy asses back to OneLife. John can stay, bc he has been on ALL three ABC soaps. He fit in anywhere and he goes great with Sam. He needs to be caught between Sam and Natalie and maybe these two woman could visit each soap seeing and John.

Well that’s stupid!! It ended with him alive!! He should totally have been asked back. Not to mention he’s a fan favorite. ANNOYED!! Yes let’s bring back Ramal & whatever can’t remember there names AS WHO REALLY CARES about those characters.

Lovvvve TSJ. He was one of the reasons I kept watching OLTL. If they honestly haven’t asked him, they’re foolish, to put it politely. On the other hand, I can’t blame Trevor if he doesn’t want to return to any soap. The writing was sickingly pro-RHTodd.

TSJ is an awesome actor who made us love the tortured character of Todd Manning. Even at his demented worst, (such as when he planned to take Star’s baby), we couldn’t help but hold out hope that he could somehow redeem himself. With the reveal that he is really Victor Jr., there is so much more he can bring to OLTL.

I would love to see both Roger Howarth and Trevor St. John back on One Life. They are both very talented actors and brought a lot to the program. The scenes with Todd and Viki( with both actors) was priceless. I hope to see both of them back on One Life….they are both real assets and the show finale had great cliffhangers for both of them,

Roger Howarth is Todd Manning. Trevor St. John is an excellent actor and he did a good job playing Todd but not like Roger. Roger’s Todd has so much more depth. He can be funny one moment and angry the next. The scenes when TSJ’s Todd was going through execution was some of the best acting I have seen but he always played Todd as serious just like Victor Lord would be. BUT, Roger is Todd. I do want PP to ask Trevor back as Victor Junior. Victor Jr and Tea were fabulous together. Todd and Victor are like a ying and yang. I can’t even stand to think RH’s Todd won’t be a full time character on OLTL but since Todd is already an established character on GH then Roger should be Todd on OLTL and GH. Trevor St. John is needed on OLTL but he should be Victor Lord Jr.

How did RH’s Todd have more depth? I have to disagree RH’s Todd was one dimension with no layers and one mind set REVENGE! I think what a lot of RH’s Todd fans don’t see or care to see the fact that the writers evolved Todd, Gave him many layers, Put Todd in situations that changed his life in many ways. They saw the opportunity to evolve Todd when RH left and that is exactly what they did. They made Todd a protective ((OK overprotective lol)) loving father, a successful businessman A wonderful loving husband and a great friend to Vangie, TSJ made Todd a character you love and love to hate! Believe it or not Fans did get sick and Tired of the same ol Todd that RH Played The Self absorbed egomaniac, with no regard for anyone else, Revenge Driven pitty machine. I don’t know anyone that was shocked when RH’s Todd sold Jack because that is how Todd was back then. Now when Todd was considering kidnapping Hope everyone was shocked and why? Because after what Todd went thru with Sam and how that changed him no one ever thought he would put Starr threw that, even tho his reasoning behind was understandable and Todd was right Starr did regret it later on. IMHO TSJ is Todd Manning…….

TSJ will always be Todd to me. I saw both actors in the role from the beginning and TSJ just is Todd. That said, OLTL is making a huge mistake if they don’t try to get him back. Trevor is the show for many of us. Without him, it just isn’t as fun or interesting. I’ll watch if TSJ is there. If not, I really don’t care to tune in!

I hope he is coming back… I loved Trevor St. John as Todd – well Roger played a great role (a little too silly at times but fun) I loved the way Trevor could show us the crazy Todd and then just by looking in his eyes you could tell his heart was breaking eue to the error of his ways… OLTL please bring him back…..

I never count out TSJ, he is such a beautiful liar! Fooled me twice before. Once with his “exit” interview when his character was sent to the electric chair, again when he flat out denied being involved in the OLTL finale. Lie to me, Trevor, Lie to me! He’s the one guy in the world whose lies I can forgive lol..crossing my fingers hoping I see him soon!

RH verses TSJ. Its a tie. Bad brother verses better brother would make good drama. RH should always be Todd, and TSJ should always be Victor. Todd can be the hated bad boy for all the bad things he’s done like raping Marty which some fans dislike him for and hopes he never finds lasting happiness for his past crimes while Victor who didnt rape Marty could be a bad boy in a good way by going after those who would do things to try to hurt his family? Would you want TSJ be Todd with the tarnished past for raping Marty or as Victor who could be the brooding hero? I like both actors and their different personalities they bring to their roles. Its why i feel RH is better for the role as the self centered Todd and Trevor as the less self centered Victor. But most times i still feel they love and care about the children just the same.

Never, Victor was far more ruthless and believable. Real life like villian.

Joliefan Forever replied March 16th, 2013 at 7:21 pm

Because TSJ is the one that REDEEMED Todd on so many levels that is why he is Todd!
I am sorry Jim but Todd would Never ever bounce on his kids for over a year. The Real Todd also would have never allowed Johnny to get away with killing his grand daughter as Hope was the sunshine of Todd’s life. I don’t care what Johnny had on him. Why should RH always be Todd? He walked away from the character and made comments after on how he is glad that he will never ever have to play Todd Manning again, Everyone talks about oh because he is the first to play him so that makes him Todd. Being First does not mean anything, ES is not the original Viki yet she is Victoria Lord, RS is not the original Dorian yet she is Dorian Lord, JVD is not the original Clint yet he is Clint Buchanan, You see what I am saying? RH played the College Todd, Todd grew up and became a man, and left RH’s Todd behind and no the character should not go backwards he should continue to go forward on OLTL. GH has their resident bad boy Sonny, OLTL’s Resident bad boy is Todd and he needs to be home on OLTL. Let me clarify TSJ/Todd needs to be on OLTL. RH and his Vic Jr character can go back to GH and have a long life with Carly…..

I really agree with you on everything youve said on what tsj has done with the todd character and all but i still wouldve liked him as Victor because otherwise as Todd he’ll always be known as the anti hero as the man who raped Marty, and it would have been nice to see him develop Victor as his own character and see what his past history was, if he ever got all his memory back, before his momma brainwashed him into believing he was Todd. We really dont know too much about Victors early years. Maybe this new character Jeffry King working for Viki could be Victors son from along ago relationship and Jack, who always believed Victor was Todd and his father, would be jealous of Jeffry being Victors real son would try to come between them. Then if Jeffrys mother is ever introduced she wouldnt recognize Victor because of his makeover and accuse Todd(rh) of being Jeffrys father because he still looks like the same Todd she had an affair with but will later learn about Victors makeover and realize he’s really her sons father after Victor is flooded with memories of her. This could add conflict in Victors relationship with T’ea who fears Victor will have renewed feelings for Jeffrys mother who is still in love with him. Meanwhile RH not going after Johnny is one of those flaws the writer made and still could correct. Todd could have Johnny beaten up in prison off screen and hes in a coma, and will be in one for a long time. Then since Brandon left the show, this would help explain why we wont be seeing him in more prison scenes with Kristina. This could also cause later problems in Todds relationship with Carly.

jim replied March 17th, 2013 at 6:13 am

By the way RS left the roll as Dorian and was replaced by Elaine Princi then we welcomed RS back as Dorian so i have no problem with RH returning as Todd. My real problem is i like both RH and TSJ and it really doesnt bother me which character they play but without TSJ making any commitment to the show as for now the best thing to do is stick with RH as Todd because Todd is more needed than Victor in the storyline and if TSJ isnt available to commit but RH is the latter deserves the role more.

jim replied March 17th, 2013 at 8:37 am

I do like the idea you put under a different reply that it was the real Walker in Todd/Victors grave. Thats a clever idea and a real possibility for them to resolve the storys cliffhanger. Good job!!! I wish TSJ will return but if not RH should remain as Todd in the meantime because with Starr at GH she needs Todd and i dont know if it would be the same if he was just her Uncle Victor. If TSJ was the real Todd after all would he visit his daughter?
I like both of the actors like i said b4 so it doesnt matter if one is Victor or Todd. They both could add a lot of drama to either show, especially as bickering bothers on OLTL.

Joliefan Forever replied March 17th, 2013 at 1:19 pm

WOW Well Jim I have 3 of them to respond too LOL….Todd will always be known as YUCKY’S Rapist no matter who plays him or what he does. See that is just it there is no Past History for Vic Jr because their is no Vic Jr. In the almost 20 years that Todd has been on OLTL not once was it mentioned or hinted at that Todd had a twin, not even when RH played him when Todd came on, and back then their would have been no reason for them to NOT mention that Todd was a Twin, epically to let Viki know that Todd is not her only brother. Todd Manning was not created as a Twin either. Irene hates Vic Sr for what happened between them, yet she gives Todd away but keeps the other one? How could she HATE Todd but Love “Vic Jr” if they have the same father?
TSJ already developed Todd Manning as his own, I don’t think he should have to Develop another character……Irene did not brainwash anyone, Mitch is the Master Brainwasher and has successfully brainwashed ppl in the past…..That whole Jeffrey King thing can’t work as they wrote that Vic Jr has always lived with Irene at the Agency. Jeffrey King is a Friend of Matthew and Destiny’s…….They wrote Vic Jr to be “Mentally Slow” and I am sorry but the only one that has and continues to act like they are slow is RH’s character (( I am sorry I will not call him Todd)), Not once in the 8 years that TSJ played Todd did he play him “slow”…..About that Brandon thing IDK I do not watch GH and haven’t since the 80s lol, But I do think GH fans really think that RH is going back to GH as Todd and I really don’t think that is going to happen. He will go back but I do not think Todd will follow IMHO…..Now on to the Next Post LOL

Joliefan Forever replied March 17th, 2013 at 5:52 pm

Sorry Jim My reply to your second Post is under this topic LOL…
Thanks, I think the whole Walker twist would just be an awesome way to do it but I am not one of the writers LOL…..You said Starr needs Todd with her. OK why? She didn’t need him when she left her family to go to LA. Starr is all grown up and does not need her “dad” with her. After everything that girl has been threw to find out that RH is actually her Uncle Victor would not devastate her life, Because of what Todd’s kids mean to him I’m sure he would “visit” her. I think it would be great for RH to be Mitch Lawrence Jr and TSJ is Todd and even tho Mitch died ((Eye roll LMAO)) they can keep up the rivalry and RH can stay on GH and TSJ on OLTL!

1loveabcsoaps replied March 23rd, 2013 at 7:32 pm

Joliefan said:
” OLTL’s Resident bad boy is Todd and he needs to be home on OLTL. Let me clarify TSJ/Todd needs to be on OLTL. ”

1love says: Preach Joliefan

Joliefan says: “RH and his Vic Jr character can go back to GH and have a long life with Carly…..”

!love says: Auh uh…Don’t wish to see that face and horse nose on GH. Since the character of Todd is so in love with that Blair (love Blair BUT not on GH) RH and his Todd character need to be headed back to Landview (if anywhere) and fight out who the real Todd is.

Kyle replied April 18th, 2013 at 11:56 pm

but @joliefan, what about what tsjs todd has done to his kids? for one, you watch back tsjs todd never really spent time with hope, and rhs todd barley did as well cause the writers botched the storyline and they were going on the air, thats number one. number two, tsj’s todd was way more voilent then rhs todd. todd never would of called his daughters sluts and treated them and such, watch back. the real todd would have never NEVER beat cole to a pulp the way they wrote and push starr (the golden child, and todds all time favorite child) down the stairs! sleeping with marty? that is logical? stealing his daughters baby? is that logical? I agree with you that todd should have said something about hope dying to starr. i agree. but tsj’s todd has a done a lot worse things to starr, vicki, tea, blair and others. St. John’s best work as Todd was when he was on death row. Best acting I’ve seen. When you look at the other eight years, it didnt compare to what Roger did as Todd 1) because of poor writing and 2) different actor, different storylines. most of the stuff St. John did as Todd, Todd the character would have never done because of the way Roger made the character.

The character of Dr. Dorian Cramer was originated by Nancy Pinkerton on April 30, 1973 and was subsequently played by Claire Malis from February 1977 to April 12, 1979, Strasser was hired for the role by OLTL creator Nixon debuting on April 13, 1979……My point was and is that RS did not originate the role but she is Dorian Lord Just like TSJ did not originate the Role but he is Todd Manning, RH’s Time has passed and he walked away and more than once and made comments about how he is glad he will never ever have to play Todd Manning again and how the character did not challenge his acting abilities and Todd was boring ETC but the minute he is out of work he wants to lay claim to something he has no right to And ABC letting him do it was ridiculous! Let’s say that TSJ can’t be back for the launch it can still be revealed that he is Todd Manning as we seen him Tied up to Allison’s bed at the end, so they don’t need to show him to let the fans know that he is alive, then it can go in to a really good story line of Todd escaping and returning home to retake his life…..Just saying!

Hey: Your post is ” telling is like it is ” regarding,,,, Trevor St. John vs. Roger Howarth. I dont have time to read it right now but, it will be good read tonight when I get ready for bed. I wish I could locate the pages and pages of THIS topic in which I am writing my ass off about who played it BEST and why? Trevor played Todd far more dimentional than Roger. Some of Roger’s best work I have seen on GH opposite him with Heather. Howeverr, he doesn’t have the DEPTH that St. John has. My problem with how the deal went down was that Roger came BACK to a show in which he walked away from (YEARS…. PRIOR) yet ended up on another network ‘ a week later ! ‘ He decides to return to OnrLIFE when other soap is no longer popular. OneLife gets cancelled shortly later, and St.John gets fired along with the rest of the cast who gets CANCELLED, and Roger H. ends up on GH, making money (after his long absense from the network) while the rest of the LOYAL cast sits on the unemployment line with the FATE of their salaries in the hands of the FIGHTING SPIRIT of the fans who love them. (WTF) And now……. he’s headed to OneLife, only to end up back on GH (on television) while the rest of the OneLife crew is on the (internet). WRONG WRONG and WRONG.
If you go back to Jan Feb Mar somewhere ion this site of 2012, I break it down like you have about this sour topic. You hit a nail with this huge statement: St John should not have to develop another character after making Todd his own. Amen. As I stated in my previous post: That man came in (and had a hard time from the fans). But he hung in their with the fans, and so the fans HIUNG in there with him, and BOY did he NOT ever…… let us down when it came to him delivering (a Todd) multi-dimentional.
Can’t wait to read your opionion later.

You make very valid points and some I cant agrue with but some I can. not all of the OLTL actors were on the sidelines or the unemployment line, as Kristen Alderson (Starr), Michael Easton (John), Kassie DePavia (Blair) and Florencia Lozano (Tea) all were on GH. Melissa Archer (Natalie), Kelley Missal (Dani), David Gregory (Ford) and Bree Williamson (Jessica) all did TV shows and Movies that were in theaters and NBC. so not ALL the cast was unemployed because they need they need work to feed to their families. I do disagree with you about the topice of St. John vs. Howarth and who played Todd better. St. John, as I said in my post earlier is a great actor, but he is no Roger Howarth. best work? St. John’s best work as Todd was when he was on death row. Best acting I’ve seen. When you look at the other eight years, it didnt compare to what Roger did as Todd 1) because of poor writing and 2) different actor, different storylines. most of the stuff St. John did as Todd, Todd the character would have never done because of the way Roger made the character.

I sure hope that Trever comes back to OLTL I thought he was a great actor & it would be a AWESOME storyline!!! I also think that they should bring back crazy lady Alison too!! Ive got a great feeling about the reboot! we fans are SO excited about the reboot bring it on guys!!!!YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think he will be back even if it’s just to wrap up the storyline. PP is very good at keeping things under wraps. TSJ is awesome and would love him to be back for good. I mean come on..what’s OLTL without him and Todd?? Since Todd is going back to GH after a bit.

trevor is a great actor but i never liked him as todd manning because roger embodied the role so much i would luv to see him back as victor but when he played todd he played him rich spoiled in swore he owned everything when roger played todd he was the misunderstood murdering rapist who only showed emotion for his daughter

Now that Roger Howarth does not want to be on OLTL we have all the more reason to bring back TSJ. I wish ABSleeze and Prospect Park could negotiate an agreement. Let Todd go back and forth or whatever, while TSJ’s character is on OLTL. I think the Todd character has evolved to be more interesting on GH, TSJ is also more handsome. They could switch it around and have Trevor be Todd and RH on GH being Victor- sayng he was really victor the whole time but didnt know it. A psychiatrist could help him realize. Anyway, OLTL bring TSJ back. Ridic that he hasn’t been asked.
I did see him on the Client List. It just seems weird to see him as another character.

It would be exciting to be St. John back as Victor so they can wrap this storyline up, but will everyone stop saying that St. John is the real Todd??? It sounds like to me, and this is just my opinion, but everyone hasn’t watched Todd from the beginning. Roger Howarth will always and forever be Todd Manning. Has been since day one. No disrespect to St. John, but he never brought the excitment to the character of Todd the way Howarth has and does to this very day. the funniness, the inner villian. Again, St. John is an amazing actor, but he’s not Todd. People who has been watching GH has been begging for Roger’s Todd to come every since he left. He brought a excitment to GH that hasn’t been seen in a long time, no disrespect to the writers writing the soap. Back when the Marty-Todd rape storyline was formed, the writers back then wanted to put Todd and Marty together as part of a different Luke and Laura supercouple. Roger declined the idea and thats the reason he left because he refused the idea. But when Trevor stepped into the role, they went ahead with it. It never made sense. To close this for me, Again NO DISRESPECT TO TREVOR ST. JOHN!!!! I really do like Trevor’s acting, just he’s not Todd.

Well, I’m loving having both Todd and Victor there, and to all those who are so disparaging of Roger, he must be doing his job awfully well if no one likes him. There’s room for both of them, but I am afraid it’s a short visit for them. And wow, do I miss Roger on GH.

Seam despite what you have all said, I think I am in the minority. I’ve loved Roger since his Loving Days. Who was he, Biff? or Skip? He really rocks it. Did then, does now, and was sorely missed when he was absent from OLTL.

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