Thursday, May 1, 2014

MORE FROM PEACE AND JOY

Confronted with sheer indisputable facts, here is how the Peace/Joy people respond:

You are hypocritical again. When people use their names, you jump on them and orchestrate mobbing attacks against them. That is your reality You are a violent person who cannot take opposing views.

Hmmm. Other than Zoltan, I can't think of anyone from your side who has used their name, their real one. Yet you say "people". And mobbing attacks? Orchestrate? Guess you haven't been to Diana's blog. (Hmmm. "Violent". Rene Girard. Seminary. I think we're getting close.)

You push Fr. Paul into a vicious battle as your foot soldier that may deeply hurt and divide the church and the faithful of Guam.

Fr. Paul my foot soldier? Wow, you give me way to much credit, dude. Hurt and divide the church? Oh, stop. Flattery will get you nowhere. But the only reason you care about hurt and division is because now you are on the losing side. People have been hurt and divided in this diocese for 30 years, and especially the last ten (guess why). Bet you could give a damn then. Right?

If there is an error here, the church will correct it. Why don't you trust this on the church in good faith? Don't you believe in the canonical procedure? Then why aren't you patient enough and wait for its conclusion?

Fr. Paul's cause is only going forward because lay people came behind him with money and support. The church would have corrected nothing had not awareness been raised as to his plight. There would be no "canonical procedure" and nothing to "wait for", which is exactly what you wanted, right? BTW, Fr. Paul himself went to the media. He didn't come to me.

You truly seem to want to inflict much damage on the Catholic church out of sheer anger. People perceive this as your goal. Fr. Paul keeps his distance from you for a good reason.

And so should you. Just remember, all this will go away as soon as the Archbishop makes it clear that he personally authorizes the liturgical practices of the Neocatechumenal Way that are not currently authorized in the Statute. It's that easy. BTW, you sure are sounding more and more like the Archbishop. At least that's what people close to you tell me.

19 comments:

Look, man, let me try to help you out. Everyone of your posts just makes my case stronger. You are "deconstructing" in front of everybody, and you certainly are not helping the archbishop by demanding that I drag out all the dirty details again. So why don't you just start your own blog where you can discredit me and get everybody to go over there. It's real easy. Just go to blogger.com. In fact, why don't you just put an article in the U Matuna.

Do you still post on Junglewatch? I haven't been posting there at all. I would also prefer that all posting in Junglewatch stays in Junglewatch rather than spill over into my blogsite.

Reply:

Zoltan April 26, 2014 at 1:20 PMYou are right. Let me announce that I officially quit JungleWatch at this very moment. Thanks for helping me to make this decision. You are a true sister in the Lord. Peace! ;)

P.S. The "conversation" between Zoltan and myself goes back before JungleWatch. He harassed me fairly regularly on Facebook until I blocked him and then he followed me over to JungleWatch to keep up his crusade to discredit me. After awhile there was nothing left to do but have fun with him. And now you're taking his place.

Anon 3:35, wow this is truly fun... I don't even know anymore if I am you or you are I? Now, tell me who is the one who has the split personality here, I or you? Or maybe our respectable host, Tim himself?! :O

Below you will find An excerpt for Diana's blog. Note what she says....although it is good to go to mass. I think Diana is confused. Not attending mass one commits a mortal sin. The liturgy is important in our lives. yes, God gives us our salvation but we must merit it.

I think Diana needs to go back and reflect on the meaning of the 10 commandments and know what they are.

Diana/ Holly get a grip on it. Walking 8 years does not make you an expert. Know the basics of the catholic catechism before you do your group injustice.

Sorry forgot to paste the excerptThis does not mean that only those who attend a Catholic Mass (whether it be a Latin Mass or the Novus Ordo Mass). are the true worshipers. As Pope Francis said, no liturgical form can save us. Salvation is also not based on Church attendance although it is a good thing to attend Mass.

Try to understand what you have just read. Attending mass won't save you. Not murdering won't save you either. Although murder is a mortal sin. What saves you is believing in the Lord Jesus and following His love commandment. When you hate your brother and sister and heap nonsense on their heads, then you are going astray and will be condemned. Simple as that. Hope and Peace!

Just to clarify. It was the Archbishop who originally approached Fr. Eric several years ago and asked him to say the Traditional Latin Mass for a group that was asking for it as per the 1984 and 1988 indults granted by Pope John Paul II. Fr. Eric did not know how to say it. He had to learn.

"If there is error here, the church will correct it." Hmm....who in the church will correct it? Who is the church? What did the church do when hundreds of her own priests were sexually abusing boys? Why did the church allow rampant homosexuality behavior in many of her seminaries? I agree with Mr. Rohr. We are part of the church and it is incumbent upon all of us to speak up and fight injustices and abuses. Imagine if we acted sooner and reported sexual abuses instead of putting our heads in the sand or look the other way or rely on the church to correct it?

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