i would just like to say i have read the messages here and i am my own person with my own mind and i am a believer i have seen many things.my partener is a medium but we accept that there are some people out there who are non believers and there is nothing we can say or do to change their minds.i always say it would be a very boring world if we all agreed all the time.this is only my view but everyones views are different.

I have also understood that as individuals, we all have our way of writing. I tend to be pro-paranormal and speak too positively.

To some who are basically like SM, it creates problems because he feels a threat.

So much so, that he has to go about other forums to make out that he and his partner, are victims of my aggression. It only takes a 'spark' to create adverse feelings for those who already feel an adversity towards my way of thought.

This particular forum, I had been a member for thirty months. Unfortunately I gave too much credit towards the creators inteligence.

The sad thing, is that SM and friend can sound too convincing, and even fool others here.

Common sense prevailing....if I am such a dishonour, why do they talk to me?

It just does not make sense. They go away to escape me, and get sucked into my conversations, when my only crime was to say that I disagree!

There are thousands of topics all over the place, so what? Why should I care what some may think?

I do not go around butting into their conversations to rage my disapproval.

Agreed...people have the right to say what they think...I don't mind that.

Saying what a person thinks is okay, but dragging my whole persona into a pee bucket by saying I am mad, has nothing to do with the topic.. It basically 'rubs people up the wrong way', especially when I am told how I should write and that I am unwanted.

Who the bloody hell do they think they are? Internet policemen? Can they not take a step sideways and leave the policing to moderators?

Don't get me wrong.....I know I am not liked. Whilst others leave, I fight back. Where these two come from, there are probably dozens more. I am receiving death threats all the way from New Zealand by personal email.

Already they have plastered my personal details on forum...including by these two.

By themselves, they are useless. The danger is where they meet others, and by gum they know how to hurt.

As for seeking conversation with them, they bore me, but what the heck do I care what they think about my data, on the rare occasions that they talk about it?

Being bored does not stop me being polite. This is nothing but retribution for being a hard case to crack.

There are plenty of others like me, who just realise that they waste their time on forums. Occasionally there are one or two 'gems'who I happen to meet and talk by email. Others move to 'Facebook' where they can keep their own conversations without having to be persecuted for their beliefs.

George, there was a time where I thought that you were being genuine. Now i find you more entertaining.

I think firstly you seriously need to get over yourself. You mentioned a few times that we follow you overthe internet. WTF bless you , you actually feel important enough to think that I would want to FOLLOW YOU, lol thats so sweet. lol. It just so happens that the dreaded name of GEORGEK happens to be a plague on nearly every bloody forum that exists on the internet. and you blame me and solstice for being a part of some gang who wants to kill you WTF. Can i ask if the police actually take you serious or they just agree and pretend to look into things just to humour you like a 10 year old boy.

Another thing that makes me laugh is what you said in the previous reply
"I know I am not liked. Whilst others leave, I fight back. Where these two come from, there are probably dozens more. I am receiving death threats all the way from New Zealand by personal email.

Already they have plastered my personal details on forum...including by these two."

You sign up to nearly every bloody forum there is, You are the famous George K**** who took that "FAMOUS" ghostly image splashed across the news and magazines in cyprus where you are named as the photographer for the image. You anounce to everyone that you work with computers and run a business etc. For someone who works with computers and wants to remain anonymous on the internet, you are not to bloody smart are you.

AND GEORGE, for the record if you can not see that you are the one who has problems when you have pi**ed people off as far away as New Zealand you serious need to ask your little green men friends to perhaps take you back with them next time.

(EDITED AT THE 21:08 MONDAY 25TH MAY 2009 ON THE REASON THAT GEORGE K WANTS TO BE KNOWN AS GEORGEK)

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To some who are basically like SM, it creates problems because he feels a threat.

My dear fellow, you presume to much about me. I don't see you as a threat in the slightest, why should I?

Now, you say that we should just ignore you? Maybe so, maybe tghe mature thing to do would be to just pretend you dont exist. However, we're on these sites for debate and discussion, and one day I hope that you'll be able to join in with this without finding the need to patronise people for disagreeing with you.

You label me a debunker. Well, if by that you mean I often look for every day solutions before automaticaklly assuming the paranormal, then yes, I'm a debunker. I'm also a believer. I believe in a greater power than you or I, I believe in a life after death, I even believe in aliens. Iam, however, a realist, and I've seen too many times a belief ridiculed because a few believers start taking everything as read.

Actually, UFOs are a great example. I think that only the most narrow minded could believe that in the great expanse of the universe there is no other life. Even official science is open about trying to find traces of life elsewhere. So, why do people laugh at UFOlogists? Simple, because so many "believers" go so over the top. Stories by redneck alcoholics of alien abductions hardly help the brevity of the topic. I've even wondered if some of these "amusing" reports by, shall we say, lesser witness' could be instigated by governments as an effective cover. If people ridicule an idea, fewer will take it seriously, and those that do and find something will also be ridiculed.

See George? I am a debunker, but I'm also a believer, and I'm far from feeling threatened by you.

George, there was a time where I thought that you were being genuine. Now i find you more entertaining.

I think firstly you seriously need to get over yourself. You mentioned a few times that we follow you overthe internet. WTF bless you , you actually feel important enough to think that I would want to FOLLOW YOU, lol thats so sweet. lol. It just so happens that the dreaded name of GEORGEK happens to be a plague on nearly every bloody forum that exists on the internet. and you blame me and solstice for being a part of some gang who wants to kill you WTF. Can i ask if the police actually take you serious or they just agree and pretend to look into things just to humour you like a 10 year old boy.

Another thing that makes me laugh is what you said in the previous reply
"I know I am not liked. Whilst others leave, I fight back. Where these two come from, there are probably dozens more. I am receiving death threats all the way from New Zealand by personal email.

Already they have plastered my personal details on forum...including by these two."

You sign up to nearly every bloody forum there is, You are the famous George K*********i who took that "FAMOUS" ghostly image splashed across the news and magazines in cyprus where you are named as the photographer for the image. You anounce to everyone that you work with computers and run a business etc. For someone who works with computers and wants to remain anonymous on the internet, you are not to bloody smart are you.

AND GEORGE, for the record if you can not see that you are the one who has problems when you have pi**ed people off as far away as New Zealand you serious need to ask your little green men friends to perhaps take you back with them next time.

Things like this remind me of "the Great Plagues of Egypt" (or am I just fantasising).

To make the record straight....may I remind you, that my name is 'georgek' and don't ever ever place any reference to my personal details! As I suggest that admin remove your reference with the asterisks, and leave it as 'georgek'

A very long time ago my picture of Cyprus appeared in many a paperback and around the late 1990s, and a person decided to use this picture on his web site.

They do not have either my permission or The Fortean Picture Library's concent as this is copyright. The only reason why you have got this information, is by your resentment of having to contend with someone who reproves your analogy.

Your intention is that of HARM. This is why you want to oppress me, instead of sticking to the discussion about 'Divination'

Despite telling you over and over, that if I want to put my personal details on forum, this is my choice and not yours. Yet, you go against my request and try to get support from others, by trying to supply information.

You are WEAK...so instead you want to feed the 'hunger' and hatred of those who want to get me.

I could not care a sod what you believe just like your friend. Nor am I concerned how much support you get from others.

I know I am not popular, no one is, who speaks their mind....as I believe they crucify in asylums now?

Actually George, I should point out that all the details needed to get your phone, fax, and house number have been put on the internet by yourself. I'll not go into details here, but let's just say it took me about 30 minutes to find all the above along with a picture of your house.

Actually, as a matter of decency I'll pm you where they're available, as although I disagree with you, I wish you know personal harm and am aware that some who could get these details may.

we are just going round in circles here each one blaming the other would it just not be best to let by gones be by gones let it all lay to rest start a fresh and just agree that sometimes u will disagree on each others views but u all have the rights to your own views.

I get two members who constantly attack me, and chase me all over the forums, and just will not leave me alone.

I cannot write, because every bloody single time I post, I am being repremanded..... and now I am just as bad?

I HAVE DONE NOTHING WRONG!!!

Full stop over and out.

Prejudice as I keep saying.

Just get this perfectly clear......punish me if you wish, but do it fairly.

Everywhere I look, they are there....to throw more and more insults towards MY PERSON because I say that a photograph is genuine.

Instead I am made to feel like a bad schoolboy caught in the play ground fighting and has his head banged together with theirs. They go to another forum, tell a pack of lies and you lot caught it, right good and proper.As I have always said. "Get real"

Enough is enough, as I do not need this type of crap, or prepared to take it from anyone. Don't like what I say....have a nice day...blah...blah...blah.

Otherwise, keep em under control.

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Sooner or later. rather than later, I am going to deserve my place as "The Bad Guy".

Only trouble is so far, is that I am on neutral ground because I am neither right or wrong.

The point of this discussion was to investigate and discus the analogy of 'Live Divination', but instead I am asked what it is all about?

It is blatantly obvious what it is all about, as they know too well that they cannot argue it, because it is against their beliefs.

What can they say apart from stare with their mouths open? They can neither deny or pretend that the facts were never there, so instead they try and break me.

They have contributed absolutely NOTHING towards the topic, but instead base a discussion on whether I am mental?
Here is a the Collins interpretaion of 'Divination'

"The art, practice or gift of discerning or discovering future events or unknown things, as through by supernatural powers....a prophesy"

So I read post after post of how my mind has suffered and find sparse references of my personal details being published on forum. Of course, they cannot see how these two guys, have painstakingly tried to not only debunk, but to destroy any creditabilty, relating to me as a person. As they have travelled, far and between to other forums to have me removed.....(now this is important) on the basis that I am a trouble maker

Correct....a trouble maker....wait for it...

As to disagree that my picture of Cyprus is taken higher than an aircraft. On the basis of this.....they come on STRONG, as to say that I do not allow diverse opinion.

Yes...you disagree and do not allow this debunking, and you have to be punished.

Now it gets stranger still....the moderator who should be on 'neutral ground' instead obliges these two, by not being able to see the plot due to prejudice. and has to make me out as being a 'bad cog'

Why...because they fit in perfectly with the whole debunking system, and anyone thinking otherwise is classed as a'trouble maker'

Now as you scroll down from the start of this topic, you see how the whole essense of discussion is erased by the artful control of lost conversation.

For God sake...what is the matter with people?

It is a discussion for God's sake, not a 'piano lesson' on how to strike the correct metaphors of literature?

That we do not come here, to evaluate our brain science on the descriminating laws, as to how metaphisical propertes flow from madness? Nor do people come to get 'valued' mentality lessons from the Internet supremos!

At one time, anyone who believed in a ghost was mad...as this is hardly the place to decern logical thinking.

The whole bloody structure is mad, so enough of this discerning loyalty towards forum favourites.

I know that I am unpopular, as I get enough flac from other sites. So please do not compare me as just as bad.

Let me get one thing clear...."I have NEVER had the right to my own view" It has never ever happened wherby I could proclaim it and stay.

People don't like my view, because it lowers their OWN view by the corrective ingredience of my points.

That is why I am eradicated. They literally cannot compete...only to destroy in the name of 'love', that which they cannot compete in conversation.

we are just going round in circles here each one blaming the other would it just not be best to let by gones be by gones let it all lay to rest start a fresh and just agree that sometimes u will disagree on each others views but u all have the rights to your own views.

I am sorry Casper.....I do not find their behavour, acceptable by any standard.

Blaming one another is a failed understanding....this is not what it is all about.

If for example they were to disagree....then YES.

Example:- "Thanks for the pictutres George, I am sorry this seems a bit to much to 'take in' I find it difficult to accept"
Example Reply:- "Many thanks for your opinion 'wxyz', I just see this differnt"

Now...this is not how it is said!

What they are basically doing is very much approaching "Open Forum Mobbing"

This is absolutely the 'grinding down' a person's persona and throwing my personal data about on the forums as to attract other 'agressors'

Not only that, but they have already succeeded on getting me removed on another forum by spreading a load of lies, plus my name as to give others, who disagree, a method attack.

If you can imagine the consequences, of a hate filled mob, perhaps who are so imature to realise that people are differnt, being given my info on a plate?

This is not a case of one person seeing one colour and someone else seeing another......

It is a case of sour feelings,by people who are so bogged down in their ways, that they feel it a threat for anyone to go against their way of belief.

So much so, that they have to hound you down, because they are just too weak to differ and walk away.

As I can to them...but they cannot to me.

THAT is the differnce 'casper' and worse are those who should know better....not being able to understand.

If they are so much against...why do they come to me...as I do not go to them?

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