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negotiation with the fbi he gives himself up. >> right. >> they arrest him. they don't read himhismirandarights.explain. >> i'm not great on this. my understanding with the fbi and the federal authorities is that it's a terrorist act that they don't get certain rights that the rest of us would be afforded. they wanted to make sure that if we did speak with him that he wouldn't be given his miranda rights and something else kicked in. he was just -- >> you were told this in advance. if you found the guy, your officers are not going to read him his miranda rights. >> this never played out. there was no interviewing at the scene. he needed aid. >> he was in no position to talk. >> exactly. >> he was a very weak -- did he mumble anything? did he say anything? did he give any political statements? >> my understanding is he didn't have anything to say. i don't know for sure. >> what about during the 20-minute negotiation with the fbi when they were working out his surrender? did he make any statements that could be useful? >> no. i'm not aware of any statements. i think it was more he was fin

. >> speaking of legal standards, the decision was made to not read dzhokhar tsarnaevhismirandarights,at least not yet. can you explain a little bit more about that decision? i think a lot of people and others who expect when you get arrested you get yourmy r miran rights are surprised by this decision. >> to break down, everybody has seen when police arrest you, they always say certain words. which include you have the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law. well they didn't do that in the case of this suspect. that's because there's something called a public safety exception. and the public safety exception simply says that if you're concerned that there's a plot that is still afoot, if you're concerned there's an emergency, that there could be bombs somewhere else, the authorities don't have to read you your rights at that time. and that's basically what they have decided to do. but they are still going to have to do it eventually. >> joe johns, thank you so much. >>> it's one of the most visible signs that boston is beginning t