topic Re: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18 in Orbihttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1555004#M37705
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="537323"></LI-USER>&nbsp;wrote:<BR /><P>Ok, reporting back again another week in with the new beta code.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Using 1x RBR50, 1x RBS50, 2x RBS40, 1x RBW30</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>My system is working the best it ever had since I bought it well over a year ago!&nbsp;<BR /><BR />I'm finally able to move around with more or less seamless mesh. Previously I often had to re-start wifi on my iPhones or Macs when I moved around in the house because hand-over between the router and sats or between sats were not working properly. Now it does.<BR /><BR />I also had a lot of issues with my wall plugg (RBW30) specifically, hanging clients and requiring regular reboots. Now it doesn't.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I'm still also not experiencing the intermittent issue of wifi dropping on&nbsp;individual devices while still working on others.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Overall, I'm super-pleased with this BETA which has finally made my (big) investment worth-while.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I have a tick in all the boxes under&nbsp;Advanced Wireless;</P><P>x Implicit BEAMFORMING</P><P>x Enable MU-MIMO</P><P>x Enable Fast Roaming</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I assume this setup is in an extremely large (read: &gt; 7500 sq ft) space?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>That many units is going to result in pretty extreme signal overlap otherwise, which would easily have explained your roaming issues irrespective of firmware level.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>More does not always = better.</P>Thu, 19 Apr 2018 11:30:10 GMTrhester722018-04-19T11:30:10ZOrbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533584#M37058
<P>Our teams are still working through the issues, but I wanted to provide a quick update on OrbiOS 2.1.&nbsp; We usually wait to release our software until it's available across all Orbi product lines, but in a departure from our normal processes, we’re going to the release BETA software for our products in a staggered manner.&nbsp; The first wave to be released are only for the RBR50 and RBS50, which is used in the RBK50 and RBK53 (Costco) kits.&nbsp; If you have a kit that includes a different hardware product (including RBK52W, RBK40 series or RBK30 series) or a&nbsp;RBK50 or RBK53 with an&nbsp;add-on satellite (RBS40, RBW30), please hang tight.&nbsp; We’re not quite done with it yet, but will update this thread when it’s ready.&nbsp;</P>
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<P>Edit for clarity: &nbsp;This release supports both Circle &amp; Ethernet backhaul</P>
<P>Edit2: &nbsp;Updated with the 2nd wave of firmware for RBR40, RBS40, RBR20 and RBS20. &nbsp;This supports the following SKUs: &nbsp;RBK40, RBK43, RBK44, RBK20, RBK22, RBK23.</P>
<P>Edit3: &nbsp;Updated for RBW30, to support RBK30, RBK33, RBK52W, and others</P>
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<P>We’re not yet going to push this release this for auto-firmware upgrade, and will let you know before we do.&nbsp; If you have any questions, feel free to reach out to Support.&nbsp;</P>
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<P><U>Rel Notes:</U></P>
<UL>
<LI>Fixes issues where Internet access is not available on some devices, but available on others.</LI>
<LI>Fixes an issue where Satellites get disconnected from Router</LI>
<LI>Provides protection for the MDNS packet flood issue</LI>
<LI>Addresses an issue where websites set to unmanaged are unreachable</LI>
<LI>Multiple other connectivity &amp; RF improvements</LI>
</UL>
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<P><STRONG>BETA MR 2.1.3 software can be found here: &nbsp;</STRONG></P>
<P>RBR50: <A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=rFfsb14M2q" target="_blank">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=rFfsb14M2q</A></P>
<P>RBS50: <A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=0UBXh9aus6" target="_blank">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=0UBXh9aus6</A></P>
<P>RBR40:<A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=dnNl6nqBSj" target="_self"> http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=dnNl6nqBSj</A></P>
<P>RBS40: <A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=FEaFlGNCuW" target="_self">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=FEaFlGNCuW</A></P>
<P>RBW30:&nbsp;<A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=x990UeDEdo" target="_blank">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=x990UeDEdo</A></P>
<P>RBR20: <A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=IOMUioMSLU" target="_blank">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=IOMUioMSLU</A> &nbsp;</P>
<P>RBS20: <A href="http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=S5JDrBEG2f" target="_blank">http://files.netgear-support.com/go/?a=d&amp;i=S5JDrBEG2f</A></P>
<P>How to do a manual firmware upgrade:&nbsp; <A href="https://kb.netgear.com/31573/How-do-I-manually-upgrade-firmware-on-my-Orbi-Satellite" target="_blank">https://kb.netgear.com/31573/How-do-I-manually-upgrade-firmware-on-my-Orbi-Satellite</A></P>
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<P>Orbi Product Team<span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="orbi-lifestyle.png" style="width: 1px;"><img src="https://community.netgear.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/25589iA23D0EF0AD8952D3/image-size/large?v=1.0&amp;px=999" title="orbi-lifestyle.png" alt="orbi-lifestyle.png" /></span></P>Tue, 24 Apr 2018 20:04:57 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533584#M37058AmitR2018-04-24T20:04:57ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533601#M37059
<P>Thanks, Netgear team.&nbsp; I'm on 2.0.1.4 currently and having disconnect issues. Will download betas now and report back after some time testing it.</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 18:58:36 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533601#M37059doccelo2018-03-23T18:58:36ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533622#M37060
<P>Downgraded from the 2.2 Beta successfully. Was a bit disappointed to see a release in the 2.1 series which means that wired backhaul is still not supported. Was also wishing for new fearures, like sharing USB drive and QOS control. Guess it was too much to wish for.</P><P>On another note I was shopping at a Target today and noticed the RBK30 for $199.00. That is a $50 markdown...</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 19:20:15 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533622#M37060bbunge2018-03-23T19:20:15ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533643#M37061
<P>I think it's good that they&nbsp;limit scope to fixes and stabilization, rather than new features for now.</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 19:36:51 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533643#M37061guzzijason2018-03-23T19:36:51ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533647#M37062
<P>Although mine has been running pretty solid, I will give this a try. &nbsp;I would concur that they should focus on stablity for those users who are having issues and want a trouble-free experience. &nbsp;I'd love to see the ability to turn off 2.4g or a few other customization features, but am happy I am lucky to be stable and the product has been working as advertised.</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 19:40:18 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533647#M37062SharkSight2018-03-23T19:40:18ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533661#M37063
<P>QUESTION FOR NETGEAR&nbsp; - ATTN AmitR</P><P>Is the recommended&nbsp;procedure&nbsp;to update the satellites, then the router to&nbsp;V2.1.3.4...</P><P>and then hard reset (paperclip) the satellites and router after they come back up after the update...</P><P>and manually configure them from scratch to eliminate any old settings&nbsp; (that may carry forward) that are not applicable to this version of firmware?</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:23:27 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533661#M37063wchp2018-03-23T20:23:27ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533665#M37064
<P>Hello Netgear,</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Just so that I understand, for the RBK50 firmware;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Does the RBK50 (Orbi Router) <EM><STRONG>Firmware Version 2.1.2.18</STRONG></EM> support Ethernet Backhaul still?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Does the RBK50&nbsp;<EM><STRONG>BETA MR 2.1.3 Firmware</STRONG></EM>,&nbsp;<SPAN>support Ethernet Backhaul?</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>Thanks!</SPAN></P><P>&nbsp;</P><P><SPAN>BJ</SPAN></P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 19:54:19 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533665#M37064b1ggjoe2018-03-23T19:54:19ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533668#M37065
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="576066"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>Downgraded from the 2.2 Beta successfully. Was a bit disappointed to see a release in the 2.1 series which means that wired backhaul is still not supported. Was also wishing for new fearures, like sharing USB drive and QOS control. Guess it was too much to wish for.</P><P>On another note I was shopping at a Target today and noticed the RBK30 for $199.00. That is a $50 markdown...</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, I have to report that I brought the RBS50 close enough to the RBR50 to connect them with a 25 FT. CAT5, ethernet port to ethernet port.&nbsp; I watched the Attached Devices page and saw the satellite Connection Type go from 5G to 2.4G back and forth several times then show Wired. Has been stable on WIred Connection Type since then. Looks like Wired backhaul is supported but saw nothing in the release notes about it. Netgear comment?</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:00:11 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533668#M37065bbunge2018-03-23T20:00:11ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533689#M37066
<P>I'd been on 2.1.2.18 and have been stable (unlike some other people) for many weeks - ever since its release. Decided to give this beta a try. Upgrade went smoothly and so far all seems fine.&nbsp;</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:08:17 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533689#M37066Dd8522018-03-23T20:08:17ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533705#M37067
Yes it does support Ethernet backhaul.Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:20:18 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533705#M37067henrydav2018-03-23T20:20:18ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533710#M37068
<P>here goes nothing...</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:30:18 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533710#M37068larryindublin2018-03-23T20:30:18ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533720#M37069
I just updated my RBR50 and RBS50 to this beta firmware. My iProducts drop all the time. Hoping this fixes the issue!!! Very hopeful.Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:42:18 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533720#M37069russellmoran992018-03-23T20:42:18ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533728#M37070
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="523707"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>here goes nothing...</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>And we're back.... Not a fancy setup. Wireless backhaul. Only currently using Router and 1 Satellite until the basement is finished. uPNP turned off. Fast Roaming turned on. Otherwise default (using OpenDNS dns servers though).</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Everything came back up.... Will report any stabilty issues (although knock wood, I was pretty stable and not in the "damn you Orbi" crew).</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 20:46:20 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533728#M37070larryindublin2018-03-23T20:46:20ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533760#M37071
<P>Update went smoothly, but&nbsp; my two satellites that are supposed to be using ethernet backhaul are both listed as using 5G backhaul on the RBR. A little disappointed by this. I was hoping all those issues had been resolved.</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:32:23 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533760#M37071dalnew2018-03-23T21:32:23ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533779#M37072
<P>Updated from the 2.1.2.18 beta easily enough, no issues there.&nbsp; However, ethernet backhaul doesn't work. First attempt took the system down initially when I plugged in the cable.&nbsp; Eventually it recovered, but device list was showing satellite connected via 2.4g.&nbsp; Rebooted everything, disconnected satellite ethernet, everything came back ok.&nbsp; Reconnected ethernet to satellite, and took system down again.&nbsp; This time, it didn't recover on it's own and I had to disconnect satellite ethernet.&nbsp; Once disconnected, system immediately came back up.</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 21:55:11 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533779#M37072Prelector2018-03-23T21:55:11ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533781#M37073
<P>I've noticed that when you plug in the ethernet cable, it takes about a minute or two to get going again. You might give it more time.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Is there any network Gb switches in between the Satellite and router? If so, what is the Mfr and model# and is it a managed or non managed switch. I have two in between my Satellite and it took a good minute or two to get going. Been up and running. My switches are not managed however.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="590474"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>Updated from the 2.1.2.18 beta easily enough, no issues there.&nbsp; However, ethernet backhaul doesn't work. First attempt took the system down initially when I plugged in the cable.&nbsp; Eventually it recovered, but device list was showing satellite connected via 2.4g.&nbsp; Rebooted everything, disconnected satellite ethernet, everything came back ok.&nbsp; Reconnected ethernet to satellite, and took system down again.&nbsp; This time, it didn't recover on it's own and I had to disconnect satellite ethernet.&nbsp; Once disconnected, system immediately came back up.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 22:00:30 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533781#M37073FURRYe382018-03-23T22:00:30ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533782#M37074
<P>Came from stable 2.1.2.18 with one sat using ethernet backhaul, the second sat using wifi backhaul. After upgrading to latest beta I had to unplug ethernet backhaul for the system to stabalize. Not sure if the new FW is an improvement over 2.1.2.18 for me. Time will show.</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 22:00:46 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533782#M37074joknutsen2018-03-23T22:00:46ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533783#M37075
<P>I've noticed that when you plug in the ethernet cable, it takes about a minute or two to get going again. You might give it more time.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Is there any network Gb switches in between the Satellite and router? If so, what is the Mfr and model# and is it a managed or non managed switch.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Did you also factory reset the router and satellite after applying the new Beta FW and set up from scratch?&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="553911"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>Came from stable 2.1.2.18 with one sat using ethernet backhaul, the second sat using wifi backhaul. After upgrading to latest beta I had to unplug ethernet backhaul for the system to stabalize. Not sure if the new FW is an improvement over 2.1.2.18 for me. Time will show.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 22:02:29 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533783#M37075FURRYe382018-03-23T22:02:29ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533801#M37076
<P>I did an normal manual update (sat first then router). There is a switch un the network but not between the router and the sat, it is also unmanaged and I doubt it is causing any issues. I did not do a factory reset simply because the time it would take to set everything up again. I also tried allowing the system to stabalize for about 30 minutes (with just one sat connected). But the router kept negotiating with the sat (when connected using ethernet backhaul), it toggled between ethernet, 5g backhaul and 2.4g backhaul.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>at this stage I am not going to invest any time doing a factory reset unless it is proven by others that it solved the problem. If the system is stable and working on 5g backhaul then I will stick with it untill stable 2.2 is released.</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 22:30:46 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533801#M37076joknutsen2018-03-23T22:30:46ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533816#M37077
<P>Just did a manual upgrade from&nbsp;2.0.1.4. Let's see how this goes.&nbsp;Still have not enabled these yet, just in case:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Enable Implicit BEAMFORMING</P><P>Enable MU-MIMO</P><P>Enable Fast Roaming</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 23:16:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533816#M37077mealto2018-03-23T23:16:24ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533824#M37078
<P>I gave it a good 10 minutes each try to stabilize, but no joy.&nbsp; I didn't do a hard reset, because of the time to readdress things.&nbsp; I'll likely sit at this point with wireless backhaul until I see some empirical evidence it's working in this version.</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 23:30:51 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533824#M37078Prelector2018-03-23T23:30:51ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533837#M37079
<P>I’m surprised this beta release is a 2.1 and not a 2.2. Is 2.2 now a dead end? It’s working fine for me in terms of network stability. The only bugs I see are in the GUI, not the network.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I’d love to know whether this 2.1.3.4 improves upon my&nbsp;2.2.0.30-20180221, and if so, how?</P>Fri, 23 Mar 2018 23:56:31 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533837#M37079RocketSquirrel2018-03-23T23:56:31ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533840#M37080
<P>&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="590474"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>I gave it a good 10 minutes each try to stabilize, but no joy.&nbsp; I didn't do a hard reset, because of the time to readdress things.&nbsp; I'll likely sit at this point with wireless backhaul until I see some empirical evidence it's working in this version.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I did not do a factory reset coming from firmware 2.2 beta with my RBK50. I did the upgrade to the satellite, RBS50 over WIFI backhaul with the satellite about 40 feet from the router. When the satellite started to reboot I started the upgrade of the router, RBS50. Once both were stable I shut the satellite down and connected the ethernet cable, direct wired to the router. Took a few minutes for the satellite to get the wired backhaul connected but it was a stable connection. I did a reboot from the web gui of the system and the wired connection came back up. I did use a purchased CAT5 cable that is marked as certified. I would strongly recommend you test any cable you fabricate. GIG ethernet can be unforgiving with a bad cable.</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 00:12:34 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533840#M37080bbunge2018-03-24T00:12:34ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533857#M37081
<P><U>Do not believe the WEB GUI</U> when trying to determine if ethernet backhaul is working.&nbsp; Download SPEEDTEST app to your phone and place your phone next to ethernet connected satellite.&nbsp; Even after several minutes the WEB GUI isn't sinking properly (for me) but each of my two wired ethernet satellites is getting 400 Mbps Up and Down (I have a 1000 Mbps service which I can only get when directly wired into my router)</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 01:21:11 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533857#M37081WAP2018-03-24T01:21:11ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533874#M37082
<P>I highly recommend doing a Factory reset after installing the beta FW. This probably has major changes and updates to the code. To ensure the beta FW is installed and seated well and to give it a solid chance, a factory reset should be performed and set up from scratch. I can attest to ethernet back haul IS working on my Orbi system. Factory reset performed and then set up from scratch. Two non managed Gb network switches between my 1 Satellite and the Orbi router.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Give the new FW a chance. Take the time and do the reset and set up from scratch.&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 02:29:57 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533874#M37082FURRYe382018-03-24T02:29:57ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533881#M37083
I’m curious:<BR /><BR />Doesn’t Orbi have a way to Export a config file of all of our settings, that we can simply reimport after a Factory reset?<BR /><BR />Even if it does, I wonder then, if by doing so would just eliminate any of the benefits of doing a Factory Reset to begin with?<BR /><BR />Also, is it just me or is it that we can only disable SSID Broadcasting from the Guest Network, but not from the main WiFi Network?<BR /><BR />They also need to add a way to force WiFi devices to only connect to either 2.4GHz or 5GHz.<BR /><BR />BJSat, 24 Mar 2018 02:55:05 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533881#M37083b1ggjoe2018-03-24T02:55:05ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533888#M37084
<P>Yes under Advanced/Backup settings. Under normal circumstances and with in the same version of FW, this back up file is valid. However after updating FW from one version to the next major version, there maybe some items with in the new FW that could have adverse operations if a older config file is applied from a prior version of FW. So, with this, I recommend after upgrading to the next major version of FW or Beta or from Beta to official releaed FW. Do a factory reset, set up from scratch and then save off a <U>new</U> back up config file for this next version thats loaded. Then you have a good back up for the current version of FW that your working with. Seen odd issues over the years in working with routers and configurations and many different FW versions. All this lead me to just take the plunge and do a resets then set up from scratch and make a new backup config file at each upgrade stage in the FW cycle. I presume when the FW become more stable and all non beta official FW, you mgiht be able to just upgrade the FW and any current configurations should remain and persist which is NG normal idea of upgrading FW.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>You should be able to disable the main wifi radios under Advanced/Advanced/Wireless settings. Is this what your looking for?&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The Orbi system is designed Smart Connect. It's supposed to handle which devices get connected to which freqency based on device support and operation automatically. So this feature isn't supposed to rely on any user intervention.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="576749"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR />I’m curious:<BR /><BR />Doesn’t Orbi have a way to Export a config file of all of our settings, that we can simply reimport after a Factory reset?<BR /><BR />Even if it does, I wonder then, if by doing so would just eliminate any of the benefits of doing a Factory Reset to begin with?<BR /><BR />Also, is it just me or is it that we can only disable SSID Broadcasting from the Guest Network, but not from the main WiFi Network?<BR /><BR />They also need to add a way to force WiFi devices to only connect to either 2.4GHz or 5GHz.<BR /><BR />BJ<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 03:08:18 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533888#M37084FURRYe382018-03-24T03:08:18ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533890#M37085
Aaah ok, makes sense. As far as the WiFi question, I was just trying to hide and keep the SSID from broadcasting, not so much disabling the radio.<BR /><BR />I see where this can be done for the Guest Network, but not the main WiFi SSID.<BR />Sat, 24 Mar 2018 03:14:08 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533890#M37085b1ggjoe2018-03-24T03:14:08ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533894#M37086
I’ve enabled all 3 and no concerns so far!Sat, 24 Mar 2018 03:18:22 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533894#M37086Chairman0072018-03-24T03:18:22ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533895#M37087
Advanced<BR />Advance setup<BR />Wireless<BR /><BR />Options to broadcast SSID are there.Sat, 24 Mar 2018 03:18:56 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533895#M37087larryindublin2018-03-24T03:18:56ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533897#M37088
<P>Will have to see if this works for you...might cause problems though with the satellite. I haven't tried this.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="576749"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR />Aaah ok, makes sense. As far as the WiFi question, I was just trying to hide and keep the SSID from broadcasting, not so much disabling the radio.<BR /><BR />I see where this can be done for the Guest Network, but not the main WiFi SSID.<BR /><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 03:21:04 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533897#M37088FURRYe382018-03-24T03:21:04ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533905#M37089
<P>Firmware loaded up, all the fancy options turned back on.&nbsp; Here goes nothing!</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 03:43:21 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533905#M37089TrickyT2018-03-24T03:43:21ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533907#M37090
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="576749"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR />Doesn’t Orbi have a way to Export a config file of all of our settings, that we can simply reimport after a Factory reset?<BR /><BR />Even if it does, I wonder then, if by doing so would just eliminate any of the benefits of doing a Factory Reset to begin with?<BR /><BR /><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>It is worrisome that the exported .CFG file is binary and not text. To me, that suggests that importing the .CFG will, as you say, eliminate the benefits of a factory reset because it's just reading old settings back into memory. If the .CFG file were text, at least we would know what was in there and understand that the firmware was interpreting the old settings from text back into binary.</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 04:00:06 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533907#M37090RocketSquirrel2018-03-24T04:00:06ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533909#M37091
<P>For security reasons, I presume, the config file isn't open text anymore. Most router Mfrs don't use clear text files anymore.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 04:03:17 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533909#M37091FURRYe382018-03-24T04:03:17ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533917#M37092
<P>So I gave this beta a test run and disappointingly the packet loss issues are still there. As you can see from the graph, the communication&nbsp;hangs at regular intervals. This is a 10 minute graph with a massive 16.8% PL. For this test I tried several configuration combinations, factory reset and disconecting all devices from the network in order to isolate the issue to the Orbi devices. I have been doing this for each firmware version since 2.0.0.74<span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-center" image-alt="4.2.2.2.png" style="width: 400px;"><img src="https://community.netgear.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/25599i93813B8AE3E41E3C/image-size/medium?v=1.0&amp;px=400" title="4.2.2.2.png" alt="4.2.2.2.png" /></span></P><P>This issue began wirh firmware V2.0.1.4 with only a&nbsp;mild PL issue. Newer firmwares have been just as bad as the current beta. Fortunately I don't need Circle or ethernet backhaul so I'm goinga back to V2.0.0.74 for the time being.</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 04:47:12 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533917#M37092PyroDog2018-03-24T04:47:12ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533932#M37094
<P>I loaded this up about 3 hours ago.&nbsp; At first I had the same problem as some people with the satelites bringing down the whole network until I did this, hope it helps someone.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>1. Held down the factory reset button on each satelite till the power led started blinking amber <STRONG>(I did NOT factory reset the router, but will if I have any troubles)</STRONG>.</P><P>2. Once I saw that it was in process of rebooting, I plugged in my ethernet cable for ethernet backhaul</P><P>3. Once each satelite booted back up I could see in the "Attached Devices" page the satelites had a status of "sync config" (or somethng close to that).&nbsp; Obviously it was getting its setting back from the RBR.</P><P>4. Everything has been perfect after that so far.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Here is my setup:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>1 - RBR50</P><P>2 - RBS50's (both of them are hooked up to a Netgear GS108 switch along with a few PC's and DirecTV boxes, then a single cable going from switch to the RBR50.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Also something worth noting, I reserved permanent IP's for my 2 satellites.</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 06:03:10 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533932#M37094ktoonsez2018-03-24T06:03:10ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533970#M37095
Thank you for the suggestion. I did paperclip factory reset of the sat's but not the router, and it did settle down the system. I am now able to run one sat with Ethernet backhaul, and one over WiFi (and they daisy chain). I am no longer experiencing drops and cycling of backhaul connection between router and satSat, 24 Mar 2018 09:06:09 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533970#M37095joknutsen2018-03-24T09:06:09ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533980#M37096
<P>Is there a version for RBS40? Or is it the same?</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 09:56:46 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533980#M37096MattHopkins2018-03-24T09:56:46ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533981#M37097
<P>I have a linear configuration: Router-Sat1–Sat2. I cannot get Sat2 to connect to Sat1 in daisy chain configuration. Any way to force this? &nbsp;Sat2 and Router are at opposite ends with Sat1 in the middle.</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 10:08:03 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1533981#M37097quaningeneva2018-03-24T10:08:03ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534006#M37098
Is there a newer version for the RBS50Y Outdoor Satellite also?Sat, 24 Mar 2018 11:05:39 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534006#M37098Miles2672018-03-24T11:05:39ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534121#M37099
I just bought this system a couple of days ago and getting ready to send back. It will keep disconnecting and the download speed is lower then what it should be. Any way to fix these issues before I send it back?<BR />Thank youSat, 24 Mar 2018 15:18:53 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534121#M37099Csanderson06282018-03-24T15:18:53ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534122#M37100
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="591941"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR />I just bought this system a couple of days ago and getting ready to send back. It will keep disconnecting and the download speed is lower then what it should be. Any way to fix these issues before I send it back?<BR />Thank you<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, give the beta firmware a try for sure. Only for the RBR50/RBS50 (RBK53 set) for now. I was stable with previous firmware but many others had issues.</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 15:25:17 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534122#M37100larryindublin2018-03-24T15:25:17ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534123#M37101
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="591941"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR />I just bought this system a couple of days ago and getting ready to send back. It will keep disconnecting and the download speed is lower then what it should be. Any way to fix these issues before I send it back?<BR />Thank you<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Try the new "beta" firmware. See the first post in this series...</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 15:27:02 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534123#M37101bbunge2018-03-24T15:27:02ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534130#M37102
<P>Was rock solid on .18 firmware.&nbsp; Tried the beta and now the GUI isn't showing the satellites properly.&nbsp; Reset the satellite back to factory and gave it a couple of hours for it to "settle down".&nbsp; That didn't work.&nbsp; Going to reset router and satellite and see if the beta is at least as good as .18</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 15:38:33 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534130#M37102WAP2018-03-24T15:38:33ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534153#M37103
I did try that link to update it but it would not take that update.Sat, 24 Mar 2018 16:17:33 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534153#M37103Csanderson06282018-03-24T16:17:33ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534157#M37104
<P>installed this beta (<SPAN>V2.1.3.4)&nbsp;&nbsp;</SPAN>6 hours ago,&nbsp; factory reset router RB50 and satellite , and now&nbsp; when i look at debug.htm,&nbsp;</P><P>System uptime is 00:50:35 !!!&nbsp; Why the system uptime reset to zero many times per days !?&nbsp; router reboot !?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><TABLE border="0" cellspacing="10" cellpadding="0"><TBODY><TR><TD><STRONG>Basic Infomation</STRONG></TD></TR><TR><TD>&nbsp;</TD><TD><STRONG>CPU Load</STRONG></TD><TD>11.7506%</TD></TR><TR><TD>&nbsp;</TD><TD><STRONG>Memory Usage(Used/Total)</STRONG></TD><TD>171MB/495MB</TD></TR><TR><TD>&nbsp;</TD><TD><STRONG>Flash Usage(Used/Total)</STRONG></TD><TD>32MB/4GB</TD></TR><TR><TD>&nbsp;</TD><TD><STRONG>Network Session(Active/Total)</STRONG></TD><TD>1122/65536</TD></TR><TR><TD>&nbsp;</TD><TD><STRONG>System Uptime</STRONG></TD><TD><FONT color="#FF0000">00:50:35</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>this was same with all previous version.</P><P>The system is not supposed to reboot !</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 16:23:28 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534157#M37104chsalmon2018-03-24T16:23:28ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534202#M37105
<P>Upgraded to the Beta Firmware for both the router and satellite. The satellite is connected to router in 2.4 GHZ and the connection is poor. Any solution for this, other than moving the satellite closer to the router. Satellite is exactly in a floor below the router.&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 17:31:54 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534202#M37105srinivas292018-03-24T17:31:54ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534204#M37106
<P>For the most part, my setup has been pretty stable on v2.1.2.18; however, lately I have occasionally noticed connectivity drops on mobile devices, usually manifesting itself as a failure to obtain a DHCP lease.<BR /><BR />Today, I updated to the beta v<SPAN>2.1.3.4 (including factory reset of satellites *only*). Will see if this affects the DHCP problems I was seeing.</SPAN></P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 17:36:31 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534204#M37106guzzijason2018-03-24T17:36:31ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534229#M37107
<P>The router needs to be factory reset as well and is encouraged to ensure a good set up of the new FW.</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="529182"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>For the most part, my setup has been pretty stable on v2.1.2.18; however, lately I have occasionally noticed connectivity drops on mobile devices, usually manifesting itself as a failure to obtain a DHCP lease.<BR /><BR />Today, I updated to the beta v<SPAN>2.1.3.4 (including factory reset of satellites *only*). Will see if this affects the DHCP problems I was seeing.</SPAN></P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:02:12 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534229#M37107FURRYe382018-03-24T18:02:12ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534240#M37108
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="433127"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>Upgraded to the Beta Firmware for both the router and satellite. The satellite is connected to router in 2.4 GHZ and the connection is poor. Any solution for this, other than moving the satellite closer to the router. Satellite is exactly in a floor below the router.&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>You should try moving the satellite, at least as a troubleshooting measure. 5 GHz is absolutely terrible at penetrating walls/floors, so it's not terribly surprising to me that 2.4 GHz might win in this situation.</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:06:37 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534240#M37108guzzijason2018-03-24T18:06:37ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534243#M37109
<P>Besure that you preformed a factory reset after loading the beta FW on BOTH router and Satellite. Then set from scratch.&nbsp;</P><P>Placement is crucial as well. Mines about 40 feet disstance between the router and satellite.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="433127"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>Upgraded to the Beta Firmware for both the router and satellite. The satellite is connected to router in 2.4 GHZ and the connection is poor. Any solution for this, other than moving the satellite closer to the router. Satellite is exactly in a floor below the router.&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:08:46 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534243#M37109FURRYe382018-03-24T18:08:46ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534257#M37110
<P>I did for the satellite, I will have to do for the router. By Factory reset i hope you are asking me to hold the reset button on back of the router for 5 secs?&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:12:28 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534257#M37110srinivas292018-03-24T18:12:28ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534258#M37111
<P>What model Obri system do you have? This beta is for the RBR50 and RBK50 systems only.&nbsp;</P><P>If you have the 50 system, use IE11 or FF browser to send the FW file. Besure your wired with the Satllite and router when you upgrading FW. DO NOT USE Wireless!!!</P><P>&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="591941"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR />I did try that link to update it but it would not take that update.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:12:48 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534258#M37111FURRYe382018-03-24T18:12:48ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534259#M37112
<P>You need to reset both Router and Satellites for the new FW to take good full effect. Set up from scratch.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="539844"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>Was rock solid on .18 firmware.&nbsp; Tried the beta and now the GUI isn't showing the satellites properly.&nbsp; Reset the satellite back to factory and gave it a couple of hours for it to "settle down".&nbsp; That didn't work.&nbsp; Going to reset router and satellite and see if the beta is at least as good as .18</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:13:44 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534259#M37112FURRYe382018-03-24T18:13:44ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534262#M37113
I have a rbk33Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:27:42 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534262#M37113Csanderson06282018-03-24T18:27:42ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534277#M37114
<P>The beta FW&nbsp; is for #50 models only right now. Other models are on the way. Please be patent.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="591941"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR />I have a rbk33<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:37:21 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534277#M37114FURRYe382018-03-24T18:37:21ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534292#M37115
<P>Well, 16 hours&nbsp;up time on the new firmware with..<BR /><BR />Daisy-Chain Topology enabled</P><P>Implicit BEAMFORMING enabled</P><P>MU-MIMO enabled</P><P>Fast Roaming enabled.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I have the RBR50 and two RBS50s.&nbsp; So far everything is working flawless!&nbsp; *knocks on wood*.&nbsp; I didn't go as far as factory resetting everything, just updated that sats, then the routers.&nbsp; Figured I'd try that before resetting everything.&nbsp; So far so good, no errors in the logs, no issues on any devices.&nbsp; Best stability I've had in months.</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:54:33 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534292#M37115TrickyT2018-03-24T18:54:33ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534306#M37116
<P>YAY!!!&nbsp;<img id="smileyvery-happy" class="emoticon emoticon-smileyvery-happy" src="https://community.netgear.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-very-happy.png" alt="Smiley Very Happy" title="Smiley Very Happy" /></P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="591789"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>Well, 16 hours&nbsp;up time on the new firmware with..<BR /><BR />Daisy-Chain Topology enabled</P><P>Implicit BEAMFORMING enabled</P><P>MU-MIMO enabled</P><P>Fast Roaming enabled.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I have the RBR50 and two RBS50s.&nbsp; So far everything is working flawless!&nbsp; *knocks on wood*.&nbsp; I didn't go as far as factory resetting everything, just updated that sats, then the routers.&nbsp; Figured I'd try that before resetting everything.&nbsp; So far so good, no errors in the logs, no issues on any devices.&nbsp; Best stability I've had in months.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 18:57:53 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534306#M37116FURRYe382018-03-24T18:57:53ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534394#M37117
<P>Running this for almost 12 hours and all is good. For now, every 1-2 min, I see this in the logs:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>[DoS Attack: IP Spoofing] from source: 192.168.1.254. Don't see any attached devices&nbsp;to the router or satellite with this IP.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Any idea what this may be?</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 19:54:12 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534394#M37117mealto2018-03-24T19:54:12ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534504#M37118
<P>In my expoerience, the "<SPAN>DoS Attack" warning in the Netgear logs tend to have alot of false positives. For instance, I run my Orbi behind a dedicated firewall that blocks all inbound&nbsp;connection attempts before it even reaches the Orbi at all, and yet the Orbi logs regularly tell me that it sees inbound "attacks", which are not possible. My assumption is that for many of these, the Orbi is just not doing an adequate job of maintiaing connection state tables, and sometimes what it thinks is an inbound attack is simply a valid response to a legit outbound packet.<BR /><BR />I'm not sure about the "IP spoofing" message, however. That might be caused by a packet being received from an address that is not "local" to that interface's network. Or, perhaps it's the result of some sort of NAT behavior. I've not&nbsp;noticed that particular one in my logs.</SPAN></P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 20:48:09 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534504#M37118guzzijason2018-03-24T20:48:09ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534559#M37119
<P>Had GUI issues (satellites were not showing up as satellites).&nbsp; Reset satellites, didn't fix the GUI issue.&nbsp; Reset router and satellites and now the GUI display is correct.</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 21:07:00 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534559#M37119WAP2018-03-24T21:07:00ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534693#M37120
<P>Been running fine on the 2.1.2.18 firmware, upgraded this morning about 4am and no issues with the upgrade, router, sat or devices. Been running fine so far. Will continue to monitor</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 22:35:52 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534693#M37120dpdurst2018-03-24T22:35:52ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534698#M37121
<P>I did the upgrade this morning even though I had no issues with 2.1.2.18. My only observation was that after everything had rebooted and the Orbi router was showing both sat's connected, one of the sats had some connectivity issues. I had this exact same problem when I first bought the system so this is not a new problem.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>The scenario is that the Orbi connection status shows both sats connected and connection quality good. Devices connected to the Sat-1 have no issues communicating out but devices connected to the Orbi router or to Sat 2 cant reach Sat-1 or the devices connected to Sat-1. Cant ping them, cant get an IP connection. The Orbi is in AP mode so if I use a device connected to the FIOS router I have no issues connecting to both Sat 1 and Sat 2. This seems to be an internal Orbi issue.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I can fix this by either rebooting Sat-2 or rebooting the Orbi router.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I opted to reboot the Orbi router and that fixed the problem in just a few mins. Since then the system has behaved normally.</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 22:52:05 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534698#M37121Roamabout2018-03-24T22:52:05ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534703#M37122
<P>I have a 1GBs connection from Comcast which I always get close to over Ethernet. However I never got even close to that over wireless before. My speed improved from 200MBs before to over 320MB/s over wirless after this update. That's over 100MB/sec difference right there.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>That's all I'm gonna say for now.</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 23:39:29 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534703#M37122Ely2018-03-24T23:39:29ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534707#M37123
<P>Just FYI, current wireless technology doesn't support 900+- speed testing. At most you might see 500mb. Too many factors llike client HW, design, connection rates and environment. Hard to see thruput speeds like that on wireless.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="114924"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>I have a 1GBs connection from Comcast which I always get close to over Ethernet. However I never got even close to that over wireless before. My speed improved from 200MBs before to over 320MB/s over wirless after this update. That's over 100MB/sec difference right there.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>That's all I'm gonna say for now.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 23:50:32 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534707#M37123FURRYe382018-03-24T23:50:32ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534708#M37124
<P>After running this latest update, here is something interesting.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I am using the Wifi Sweetspots app&nbsp; to test wireless speeds between the&nbsp;device and router. Although I can log in to the satellite and router to see what devices are logged in to each. The Wifi netowrk&nbsp;shown in the app has an assigned MAC address and it does not match up with either the router or satellite. I have read that there are other MAC addresses in the Orbi system.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>When the satellite shows my phone connected, I am getting 400-500+&nbsp;mbps. I assume this is testing the connection between the phone (connected to the satellite) and pinging the router. The interesting thing is, when I am connected to the router, speeds show only 50-80 mbps&nbsp;when I am 10 feet away from the router.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Odd. Can anyone else run Wifi Sweetposts and report back as well?</P>Sat, 24 Mar 2018 23:53:31 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534708#M37124mealto2018-03-24T23:53:31ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534709#M37125
<P>Yes seeing same thing with Wifi Sweetspots, ranging from 300 to 400+Mb. I presume this is between device and router only and not ISP services.&nbsp;</P><P>Looking at the About info, its seems only to find spots in the room best for your routers and such. So, ya, only between the mobile device and router. Which speed if your close will be high and are also testing max speeds of your mobile device as well.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="569056"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>After running this latest update, here is something interesting.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I am using the Wifi Sweetspots app&nbsp; to test wireless speeds between the&nbsp;device and router. Although I can log in to the satellite and router to see what devices are logged in to each. The Wifi netowrk&nbsp;shown in the app has an assigned MAC address and it does not match up with either the router or satellite. I have read that there are other MAC addresses in the Orbi system.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>When the satellite shows my phone connected, I am getting 400-500+&nbsp;mbps. I assume this is testing the connection between the phone (connected to the satellite) and pinging the router. The interesting thing is, when I am connected to the router, speeds show only 50-80 mbps&nbsp;when I am 10 feet away from the router.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Odd. Can anyone else run Wifi Sweetposts and report back as well?</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:07:30 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534709#M37125FURRYe382018-03-25T00:07:30ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534723#M37126
<P>Oh well, made it 24 hours and connections dropped for multiple devices.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>send them back to the room....</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:25:02 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534723#M37126steve84112018-03-25T00:25:02ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534724#M37127
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="74881"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>Yes seeing same thing with Wifi Sweetspots, ranging from 300 to 400+Mb. I presume this is between device and router only and not ISP services.&nbsp;</P><P>Looking at the About info, its seems only to find spots in the room best for your routers and such. So, ya, only between the mobile device and router. Which speed if your close will be high and are also testing max speeds of your mobile device as well.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Did you try running Wifi Sweetspots while connected to satellite versus router? If so, compare it to my numbers and see where we stand.</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:25:19 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534724#M37127mealto2018-03-25T00:25:19ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534727#M37128
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="500501"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>Oh well, made it 24 hours and connections dropped for multiple devices.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>send them back to the room....</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR />Out of curiosity, what make, model, type of device(s) dropped?</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:32:51 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534727#M37128wchp2018-03-25T00:32:51ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534729#M37129
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="569056"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>Running this for almost 12 hours and all is good. For now, every 1-2 min, I see this in the logs:</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>[DoS Attack: IP Spoofing] from source: 192.168.1.254. Don't see any attached devices&nbsp;to the router or satellite with this IP.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Any idea what this may be?</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><P>That is possibly your ATT Gateway (2Wire or Arris) that is pinging your router. I have the same thing. If your ATT Gateway is set up to block DOS attacks or filter pings then you can disable that on the Orbi (although you should have your Orbi set to DMZ on the Gateway and disable most of the filtering and let your Orbi handle all that).</P><P>cheers</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:46:40 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534729#M37129DerAusgewandert2018-03-25T00:46:40ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534730#M37130
<P>2 iPads and an android phone..</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Personally wondering if there’s an issue with the DHCP from the router when jumping from sat to router and vice versa</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:36:50 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534730#M37130steve84112018-03-25T00:36:50ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534732#M37131
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="500501"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>2 iPads and an android phone..</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Personally wondering if there’s an issue with the DHCP from the router when jumping from sat to router and vice versa</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Do you have fast roaming enabled?</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:39:08 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534732#M37131wchp2018-03-25T00:39:08ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534733#M37132
<P>No fast roaming and no daisy chaining.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Gonna set a static IP on my IPad and see if I lose the connection...</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:41:30 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534733#M37132steve84112018-03-25T00:41:30ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534736#M37133
<P>@<SPAN class="UserName lia-user-name lia-user-rank-Master lia-component-message-view-widget-author-username"><A href="https://community.netgear.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/74881" target="_self"><SPAN class="">FURRYe38</SPAN></A></SPAN></P><P>I am very aware of this, I was just commeting of the great speed improvement I have experience over wireless with this update which is TOP OF THE LINE speed IMHO. but hey thanks for reply.</P><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:49:24 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534736#M37133Ely2018-03-25T00:49:24ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534740#M37134
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="500501"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>No fast roaming and no daisy chaining.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Gonna set a static IP on my IPad and see if I lose the connection...</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I have fast roaming enabled with no daisy chain, no beamforming, no mu-mimo</P><P>I did Statically assign chan 1 - 2.4G and chan 48 to 5G (no auto)&nbsp;&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I have 2 iPads, 1 Android Tablet, 3 iPhones, 1 Android Phone without any of them dropping.</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 00:49:01 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534740#M37134wchp2018-03-25T00:49:01ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534782#M37135
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="114924"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>I have a 1GBs connection from Comcast which I always get close to over Ethernet. However I never got even close to that over wireless before. My speed improved from 200MBs before to over 320MB/s over wirless after this update. That's over 100MB/sec difference right there.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>That's all I'm gonna say for now.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="74881"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>Just FYI, current wireless technology doesn't support 900+- speed testing. At most you might see 500mb. Too many factors llike client HW, design, connection rates and environment. Hard to see thruput speeds like that on wireless.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The Orbi uses a 2x2 radio for the fronthaul network. This has a theoretical max of ~866 Mbps (5 Ghz, AC). In normal "real-life" environments, you can expect to see about 2/3 of this theoretical max. I think the absolute best I've ever seen in my testing is in the ballpark of ~620 Mbps, but usually it's closer to the 500-550 range. One of these days, I'll get around to setting up an iperf server so I can do local-only tests that don't rely on&nbsp;the outside network, which is the only way to really get an accurate view of you WiFI performance.</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 03:09:51 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534782#M37135guzzijason2018-03-25T03:09:51ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534784#M37136
<P>I am now at 24+ plus hours and everything is still running perfect (see post #36 for my original post).&nbsp; Did not have to reboot anything, all my Wifi light switches, Phones, Smart TV's, laptops, Satellitle TV... all working perfect.&nbsp; This is a winner so far for me, most of my problems with 2.1.2.18 were within 18 hours guaranteed so I am happy I have made it past that point.</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 02:56:17 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534784#M37136ktoonsez2018-03-25T02:56:17ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534788#M37137
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="589659"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>I am now at 24+ plus hours and everything is still running perfect (see post #36 for my original post).&nbsp; Did not have to reboot anything, all my Wifi light switches, Phones, Smart TV's, laptops, Satellitle TV... all working perfect.&nbsp; This is a winner so far for me, most of my problems with 2.1.2.18 were within 18 hours guaranteed so I am happy I have made it past that point.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Great news! hopefully this will be the case for those experiencing issues with previous firmware versions.</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 03:09:05 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534788#M37137Ely2018-03-25T03:09:05ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534792#M37138
<P>I'll give this try soon as I get a chance this weekend.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="569056"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="74881"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>Yes seeing same thing with Wifi Sweetspots, ranging from 300 to 400+Mb. I presume this is between device and router only and not ISP services.&nbsp;</P><P>Looking at the About info, its seems only to find spots in the room best for your routers and such. So, ya, only between the mobile device and router. Which speed if your close will be high and are also testing max speeds of your mobile device as well.&nbsp;</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Did you try running Wifi Sweetspots while connected to satellite versus router? If so, compare it to my numbers and see where we stand.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 03:21:07 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534792#M37138FURRYe382018-03-25T03:21:07ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18: poor backhaul connectivity.https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534846#M37139
<P>Upgraded my RBK50 from V2.1.2.18 to V2.1.3.4 and now I'm facing <STRONG>poor</STRONG> backhaul connectivity.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Any suggestions from this community?</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>PS. The router and satelite have not moved location.</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 07:22:49 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534846#M37139Supertramp112018-03-25T07:22:49ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18: poor backhaul connectivity.https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534853#M37140
Yep:<BR /><BR />- Make sure you upgraded the Firmware on both the Router and the Sat.<BR /><BR />- If you did, perform a factory reset on just the Sat and see if that helps.<BR /><BR />- If not, then also perform a factory reset on the Orbi Router as well.<BR /><BR />Sun, 25 Mar 2018 07:55:45 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534853#M37140b1ggjoe2018-03-25T07:55:45ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18: poor backhaul connectivity.https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534855#M37141
<P>Thanks for your reply.</P><P>I have not done a factory reset. Will do that and report back later...</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 08:02:25 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534855#M37141Supertramp112018-03-25T08:02:25ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18: poor backhaul connectivity.https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534857#M37142
<P>Factory resetting the satelite did the trick. Backhaul connection is <STRONG>good</STRONG> again.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>Thanks!!!</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 08:18:25 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1534857#M37142Supertramp112018-03-25T08:18:25ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18: poor backhaul connectivity.https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535087#M37143
<P><SPAN class=""><LI-USER uid="227998"></LI-USER>&nbsp;same here, i have tried disabled fast roaming / beforming and daisy chain, finally found that disable fast roaming and Mu-MIMO makes backhaul good again.</SPAN></P><P><SPAN class="">before fast roaming/beforming and mumimo are all on and backhaul was good</SPAN></P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 14:28:04 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535087#M37143Joechang2018-03-25T14:28:04ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535133#M37144
<P>I have updated my two RBS50 satellites and the RBR50 router to 2.1.3.4. &nbsp;Now, one satellite won't sync, and the other shows a backhaul of "Poor". &nbsp;Before, I had "Good" for both satellites. &nbsp;I did have multiple dropouts, however. &nbsp;These units have been problematic for me since day one with multiple firmware updates and excuses from NetGear. &nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I factory reset the router and both satellites 3 times now with the same results. &nbsp;I'm dont wasting my time with these.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>NetGear - get your **bleep** together. &nbsp;What a terrible product. &nbsp;I will donate these to Goodwill. &nbsp;</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:17:05 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535133#M37144ckimmelshue2018-03-25T15:17:05ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535167#M37145
If this system does not start working like it should then I'm going to return it tomorrow. I really want to like this system but I also need it to work.Sun, 25 Mar 2018 16:05:26 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535167#M37145Csanderson06282018-03-25T16:05:26ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535174#M37146
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="592453"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>I have updated my two RBS50 satellites and the RBR50 router to 2.1.3.4. &nbsp;Now, one satellite won't sync, and the other shows a backhaul of "Poor". &nbsp;Before, I had "Good" for both satellites. &nbsp;I did have multiple dropouts, however. &nbsp;These units have been problematic for me since day one with multiple firmware updates and excuses from NetGear. &nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I factory reset the router and both satellites 3 times now with the same results. &nbsp;I'm dont wasting my time with these.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>NetGear - get your **bleep** together. &nbsp;What a terrible product. &nbsp;I will donate these to Goodwill. &nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Just reboot your sats.</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 16:12:04 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535174#M37146Ely2018-03-25T16:12:04ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535202#M37147
<P>I performed several hard and soft reboots/restarts, to no avail. &nbsp;</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 16:30:10 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535202#M37147ckimmelshue2018-03-25T16:30:10ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535271#M37148
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="592453"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>I performed several hard and soft reboots/restarts, to no avail. &nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hard reset the satellites and router (paper clip in reset hole till amber light starts blinking).</P><P>Set up&nbsp;the system from scratch as if brand&nbsp;new. DO NOT restore from a backup made from a previous version of firmware.</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 17:15:19 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535271#M37148wchp2018-03-25T17:15:19ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535279#M37149
<P>As stated before, I performed several hard and soft reboots. &nbsp;I also started completely from scratch. &nbsp;The Orbi system is now boxed up and ready for donation. &nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I picked up an Eero system and I'm now back up and running quickly. &nbsp;I'm getting better coverage in "pocket" areas with the Eero. &nbsp;</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 17:29:47 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535279#M37149ckimmelshue2018-03-25T17:29:47ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535281#M37150
<P>DO a FULL FACTORY RESET on the ROUTER and SATELLITE(S)!!!</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="592453"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>I have updated my two RBS50 satellites and the RBR50 router to 2.1.3.4. &nbsp;Now, one satellite won't sync, and the other shows a backhaul of "Poor". &nbsp;Before, I had "Good" for both satellites. &nbsp;I did have multiple dropouts, however. &nbsp;These units have been problematic for me since day one with multiple firmware updates and excuses from NetGear. &nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I factory reset the router and both satellites 3 times now with the same results. &nbsp;I'm dont wasting my time with these.</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>NetGear - get your **bleep** together. &nbsp;What a terrible product. &nbsp;I will donate these to Goodwill. &nbsp;</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 17:30:48 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535281#M37150FURRYe382018-03-25T17:30:48ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535289#M37151
<P>I did, and I'm done doing them now. &nbsp;Crap product with even crappier firm and software.</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 17:33:34 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535289#M37151ckimmelshue2018-03-25T17:33:34ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535298#M37152
<P>A day after updating, and so far no problems. The apparent issue I was having with iOS devices was very intermittent, though, so only time will tell. Will let it bake...</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 17:45:32 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535298#M37152guzzijason2018-03-25T17:45:32ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535303#M37153
<P>Sounds like you need to phone contact NG support and have them help you. Others are having good luck with Beta FW.</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="592453"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR /><P>I did, and I'm done doing them now. &nbsp;Crap product with even crappier firm and software.</P><HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 17:49:43 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535303#M37153FURRYe382018-03-25T17:49:43ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535327#M37154
The orbi mesh system has greatly improved our signal and speed in our 2,000 sq feet home, we have coverage in all rooms, however in the orbi app I do get satellites showing n/a or none, but the router shows them as being connected in the router Web page and all is good. We are on 2.0.0.56.Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:28:31 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535327#M37154markbaker0072018-03-25T18:28:31ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535335#M37155
<P>We hope the next beta available for your system will be even better.</P><BLOCKQUOTE><HR /><LI-USER uid="592551"></LI-USER>wrote:<BR />The orbi mesh system has greatly improved our signal and speed in our 2,000 sq feet home, we have coverage in all rooms, however in the orbi app I do get satellites showing n/a or none, but the router shows them as being connected in the router Web page and all is good. We are on 2.0.0.56.<HR /></BLOCKQUOTE><P>&nbsp;</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 18:37:13 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535335#M37155FURRYe382018-03-25T18:37:13ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535460#M37156
<P>Got this on Wednesday. Worked fine for almost 24 hours then dropped my internet connection. Switched back to my Velop and all was fine. They released this and I decidedx one more try. I reset the system reloaded the firmware and it seemed to be working pretty good. Then I started up on setting up my ring cameras and august locks. Both of therse reported a poor wifi strength. Which I thought was strange as I was within 20 feet of the satelite and it was on a wired backhaul. So I started looking into this some more and noticed <SPAN>standing&nbsp;</SPAN>within 8 feet of the Satelite both my ipad and iphone only got 2 bars on the signal strength.&nbsp;</P><P>&nbsp;</P><P>I am pretty sure I am done with Netgear now. This is getting to be a pain each time they make a change to reset all this up just to find out they still did not get it done right. I have decided netgard products are not worth all this time. So its back in the box. I am not sured i even want to give this system to anyone i know. All it has been is trouble the last few months.&nbsp;</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:56:22 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535460#M37156mpf5412018-03-25T21:56:22ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535476#M37157
<P>I installed this las night. So far its positive, but i can't comment further yet. I installed router and updated sattelites and did a factory reset on the&nbsp; router. Will have better idea in a week or so.</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 22:22:03 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535476#M37157nkd2018-03-25T22:22:03ZRe: Orbi MR 2.1 Update 3/23/18https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535481#M37158
<P>I am still going strong today sitting at about 48 hours total.&nbsp; All is goooooooooooooooooooood.&nbsp; Not sure why a few people are having such huge problems :-(.&nbsp; Just curious if the people having so much troubles have Apple products on the network?&nbsp; If so they are all probably smearing the network with there AppleTalk tryin to connect to AOL!!!!</P>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 22:31:05 GMThttps://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-MR-2-1-Update-3-23-18/m-p/1535481#M37158ktoonsez2018-03-25T22:31:05Z