(UEFA) Football Thread - Football not Soccer

Man Utd poor start to the season by there standards continue, they look so off from last year. I still don't know why Fergie changed his system from last season. Rooney scored 34 goals playing as an actual striker so just put him back there

Playing deep for club and country will see Rooney do nothing but string a few passes together and not get on the sheet more than 12-15 times a season, not good enough. If he still had the ability to dribble pass people and score from distance you could play him in the hole but we have not seen that Rooney since 2004.

You got Kuqi huh? Barn doors of Derbyshire breath a sigh of relief, because he'll never hit any of them Better than Craig Beattie though. Not the worst loanee.

Anyone want to hazard a guess at how long Strachan has left at McBoro?

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Well after a bright start to the season disillusionment is starting to set in. I keep reminding myself that under Smith we were bottom in September and went on to finish second and get promoted but somehow I don't see that happening this year...

I disagree. United nearly always start slowly. What is unusual is how they're victims of last minute comebacks this season, rather than the instigators.

Last night's match was dire, but frankly if the opposition show up and stick 9 behind the ball, and crowd any player in the box with at least 7 of their own, what do you expect to happen? Gibson was the only real threat from distance. Rangers, as usual, were a disgrace to the game. Their performance yesterday was so akin to the way they bored their way to the UEFA cup final I could feel my anger from that year welling up inside me. Then Valencia got injured and the anger turned to sorrow, because he's out for the season and is one of my favourite Prem players. Desparately sorry for him.

Well after a bright start to the season disillusionment is starting to set in.

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Me too, one loss and it's all downhill from here! Not surprised we lost last night, we put out a poor team. Any side with McPhail and Rae in the midfield is going to get trouble, and trouble they got. Looking at the stats I'm amazed it was only 2-1! Let's hope the big guns (or indeed any guns, because Keogh can't play up top on his own) are back for the Ipswich game, because that's a team who will be smarting from being QPR's latest victims.

Berbatov's first goal: kamikaze defending (Torres marking Berbatov, Konchesky standing behind Reina!?)
Berbatov's third goal: functional. Almost as good a header as Adam Matthews'... only at the right end.
Berbatov's second goal: footballing pornography.

Watched MOTD and the ref despite getting the Gerrard card wrong, should of been red but he was 100% right with the 1st goal to Liverpool. Sunderland can't play the card they didn't mean to take it because he kicked it away from the spot it was supposed to be taken.