ATS has been invaded

When you dilute the league with more players the quality of play tends to drop.

Superstars seem fewer (good posts) and dirty play increases.

As for the "christian right" comments, I think it unfair to single out. I have seen the same droning coming from the "Atheist left".......

There are alot of threads here where the logic departs on the first page and the thread is done but for the name calling and personal attacks. Having
said that, there are stll far worse places on the net for conspiracy chatter.

Just because you have faith in something other than a higher power(well, hopefully) doesnt mean you have to spread your slanderous blasphemy. I dont
appreciate the way you have now attached a generalized title to the Christians, and other children of god (individuals that have CHoSeN where they
would like their faith to be placed in).

I do have faith in a higher power. In fact Spirituality is how I lead my life.

I am of the first nation belief...whether its Druid, Siberian Shamanism, Native American etc.

I have found the main damage to America has come from the Christians AND the extreme left also.

I am not dualistic in nature at all I am of the big picture. I can step back far enough to look at the mosaic to be able to point out where certain
individuals are stuck.

A poster earlier stated the truth of us being of the all. We are of the all and live every facet of the all.

Some are stuck though and will not no matter what get unstuck in the current incarnation they currently inhabit.

Some may try and peg me for what I've said without knowing I am beyond the left right paradigm. I think of God more like Abraxas. Or how Siddhartha
see's God. Or like how the ancient Druids saw God. Like the collective see's God.

Originally posted by PowerSlave
As for the "christian right" comments, I think it unfair to single out. I have seen the same droning coming from the "Atheist left".......

I agree with this especially in light of ATS. The Right wing Christian thing though is IMHO is what has caused the middle class to fall so far and the
corporate giant to gain such power.

Its more than an opinion...I am also a gifted intuitive, when I am not doing my duty as a Firefighter I do readings for people. The right wing
movement is in this time for a reason. They are here at this time to bring the dark so we can see where the light is coming from.

It is not only not the same but every thread that has a slight political bend (...) Most of these zombies seem to be the hard Christian right that
have ruined almost everything in our country and let the corporations do what they want since the 80's. They are like a plague in our nation and now
they are infecting ATS.
:shk:

[edit on 9-8-2009 by LoneGunMan]

Yours is no exception lol. But I still agree with you. Politics should stay in the politics section.

Originally posted by gimme_some_truth
I am betting the new rules implemented today that are against exactly what you have issue with... ( I agree) will do a great good on cutting back on a
lot of that.

I agree with John "gimme_some_truth" Lennon but there is some truth to the OP's thread.

I honestly don't remember it ever being like it has been lately. I clicked on hot topics and it's all about the driest political issues with no
sense of wonder like the good ole days.

It almost seems like the bread and butter topics of ATS's golden era which included:

These were the topics that ATS was fouinded on and I couldn't wait to get home to log on and see what exciting new adventure or mystery that needed
to be unraveled on this top flight conspiracy website.

Now it's been replaced with Obama this or healthcare that and the people reading off pages and pages of boring statistics from downloaded pdfs so
they can fuel their rage about how wrong the left/right is for backing their man/woman in office.

This is generally the result when numerous Type A people come together. What we all need to accept is that, just because we are able to intelligently
present our opinions, other Type A's are not going to fall to the ground and pay homage to us.

Also, considering the nature of this site, many of us are very passionate about the topics we chose to address. To me, regardless of whether or not I
agree with the poster, I am happy to see that passion still exists. The alternative is we all become 'Stepford Wives'.

My suggestion is to remain passionate, but drop the name calling. It is, really, easy to do, with a little forethought.

So, who exactly about are you all talking? Some of you seem to be subtly accusing one group, while others make sly references to another. . .

I agree, the situation around here is fast deteriorating. But it's hard to pin it on any one group!

Let's all admit, with Bush in office, the political forums were a complete free-for-all. It seemed anything was acceptable to say. It was fun, don't
get me wrong, (I'm non-partisan so quite frankly they're all a bunch of coniving narcissists if you ask me) and sure, the occasional evangelical
would meander into a mature discussion thread, but for the most part they stayed in their own. The shift began during the presidential campaigns in
2008 really, when the already settled crowd, comfortable in their various niches after a sustained political climate of eight years, was confronted
with a sudden change, a division emerged. When Obama won the election, that division widened ten fold.

The Republicans are sore over Obama being in office, and the Democrats can't stand to hear anything potentially negative about him. Well I don't
remember anyone complaining so much when the Bush bashing was going strong. Where were the defenders of his policies and decisions and
country-affecting Bills he was pushing? Scarce. It would seem that ATS, for as diverse a climate that it is, is not so evenly weighted in the
political or religious arenas.

How can we expect things now to be just like they were, when we had the same dummy in office for two terms!? Now we have a new dummy, and we're all
freaking out. It hasn't even been ONE year yet!!

I can't help but wonder why we all help perpetuate the way ats is now I know im guilty and so are allot of us. perhaps we should all practice some
due diligence and post in the above politics section, and than perhaps we can all get back to the mythical places we all once talked and debated about
I miss those threads.

I think we all got caught up in politics and the user base was directing the site that way. Maybe above Politics Political Forums should be its own
site; it is just a thought any way that is just my 2 cents for what it is worth.

I believe this comes from an increasing sense of the lack of authority people have.

It's all in our heads eventually, but fear is something that motivates folks to the extreme.

It was like this leading up to the election as well.. it was crazy.. there was an entire new forum Decision 08 which was like one giant
battleground.

I dunno... I get pulled into it myself sometimes.

I'd much rather talk about ancient civilizations and potential UFO sightings.

Although, I have to admit the Kenyan Birth Certificate thread was an exhilarating project of research for many, though that thread was also plagued by
the political sniping and baiting.

To me ATS's great moments come in spikes. Remember the bigfoot thread last summer?

How about the 3 sightings plus documentation of UFO science hoax from 2006?

There have been some nice moments over the past...

But ya know what? Those threads also have something in common with the political baiting threads... high flag rates and high participation by the
users involved. Although a much smaller section of users posting.

Anyway, I think with the smackdown mgmt put on it recently we will see a difference, at least until the next big thing.

keep in mind the healthcare bill is the biggest hot button since the election.

Thanks for a perfect example of what I'm getting sick of.
Name calling and pigeon holing.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle...

peace

[edit on 9-8-2009 by silo13]

Read the rest of the OP and my other posts in this thread.

You took one line of what I said and took it out of context, so in a sense you did the same thing.

I am calling it for what it is. The extreme left is bad also. The extreme left has not handed our nations wealth to the elite though. The left has
nearly ruined our moral compass. The extreme right has taken us off our natural course.

Since i started coming into this room for the second time some months ago i have seen some positive and negitive postings.I actually joined ATS four
years ago under another profile name but for some reason i was locked out for three years.I posted my stories on another web site that was better and
easyer to post stories.Now that web site has changed for the worst and i do not like that web site anymore.I guess everyone has there own opinions on
different subjects no matter how wacky they are.You should believe what you feel you should believe what you want.There is the oppuntunity on this web
site to post some intreasting stories and postings.Of course there are some things i cannot post on this web site.Have i learned much from this
site.Some.I find some postings very funny at times and other postings contain some fantastic infomation.This web site is tame to some of the web
sites i have seen.One web site i really found down right scary and believed it was being monitored by aliens.Its that feeling you get.This web site
seems ok even if it feels like its being monitored by the goverment.We are not going to upset the goverment anyday soon are we now.Who cares about
them anyway.

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