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Re: Breakdown on Dumervil's Contract

The Browns have tons of cap space and need to get to the cap floor. They're in a different situation than we are. I do think we ended up with the better player which is great.

Right on, GOTA. The Browns spent money today to KEEP cap for the future. The Ravens backloaded and will have more difficult cuts to make the next 2 seasons.

For what it's worth, I think Kruger is the better player of the 2 and it's not really close. Doom will likely be a more productive pass rusher with fewer snaps, but that doesn't make up for the expected changes in productivity for age and the big edge Kruger had in 2012 pressure. Both players are limited versus the run or in coverage, so if they have a role to emphasize their pass rush skills, I expect Kruger will outplay Dumervil.

That said, I love the optionality of Dumervil's contract. If Suggs plays well and Doom doesn't, it could easily be a 1-year deal (2.5 mil in year 1 and $6 million in dead money in 2014). If Doom plays well and Suggs doesn't, Doom could be the stop gap if Suggs must be released.

Re: Breakdown on Dumervil's Contract

Kruger better than Doom? That's a hard one to swallow. Doom has almost 70 sacks under his belt and is still in his prime. Kruger might continue to get better, might not. Its gonna be a lot harder to do on the sorry ass Browns. Doom is much more of a known commodity and much more accomplished.

Re: Breakdown on Dumervil's Contract

This seems even more fishy to me now that Denver got greedy and was trying to save every penny. Every Denver fans see this as Dumerville and his agent effed up and were fighting the cut to the last minute and screwed it up - I mean, how could John Elway do wrong?

Even if Dumerville's play wasn't up to par with $12mil, you don't go making media comments like "his contract is so far out of whack" like Elway did IMO. I mean, your team agreed to that out-of-whack contract. The guy wanted to stay in Denver and was ready to take a cut from $12mil to 8mil, and somehow the agent didn't get the fax in on time? One of the rumors was Denver messed with the deal at the 11th hour. My guess is Doom was holding out but once he was ready to give, they tried to squeeze a little more at the last minute knowing he wanted to stay, and left egg on the face of Dumerville and his agent. He made a comment on Sirius about he had to part ways with a friend (his agent) because of it, and said all parties shared blame. Then on the new offer, asked him to take a further cut because of the cap hit. That probably put him over the top.

Re: Breakdown on Dumervil's Contract

Originally Posted by ballhawk

Kruger better than Doom? That's a hard one to swallow. Doom has almost 70 sacks under his belt and is still in his prime. Kruger might continue to get better, might not. Its gonna be a lot harder to do on the sorry ass Browns. Doom is much more of a known commodity and much more accomplished.

Biggest part of this is surrounding talent. Doom has a hell of a lot more talent around him in Baltimore than Kruger in Browns. This will effect performance. Suggs and Doom rushing the edges are scary and with Ngata, Canty and Spears/McPhee/Jones on the inside... I'd say that's better than the Broncos pass rush last year

TOTALS
1 year: $8 million
2 years: $13 million
3 years: $18 million ($6 million/yr average)
Full guarantee; $10 million.
Escalators: At least $2 million; $1 million each of first two years with 12 sacks.

CONCLUSION:
Most agents and executives within the industry would say the Broncos offered a slightly better deal because they had more unconditional guaranteed money and a better three-year average. The escalators for both the Ravens and Broncos were built around a 12-sack season.

Moreover, donít forget the Broncos paid Dumervil $31.2 million the previous three years; $28 million in the past two. And throughout the free-agent process, the Broncos had a better deal on the table than the Ravens in year one and two. If it was about the money, Dumervil would have signed back with the Broncos before Sunday.

This was not about the money. This was about a broken relationship between the Broncos and Dumervil, and the Ravens showering Dumervil with love.

Re: Breakdown on Dumervil's Contract

Some of the comments from Denver fans on that blog are hilarious. Half are saying "good riddance" and claiming most of his success was due to Von Miller. One even called Elway "one of the best executives in the NFL". Delusional much?

Re: Breakdown on Dumervil's Contract

Originally Posted by NOLARavenFAN

Anyone who thinks Kruger could even sniff out Dumervil must be on acid........

It comes down to whether you believe what we saw from Kruger was the start of a new trend for him or a fluke. I personally need to see more. For veteran players I prefer to see a trend over several seasons. If Kruger can do that while Dumervil is getting older and slowing down then he's the better player. Last year will be seen as his breakout season and the start of good things to come.

I'm just not convinced though because it took him so long to get to that point. Kruger needs to prove that last year was no fluke. I'd rather have Dumervil who proved himself years ago and still seems to be in his prime.