In a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.

The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.

Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.

I say: For brevity, my comments are limited to the use of the word. Notwithstanding the possible legal implication that the unbalanced might be not guilty by reason of insanity, ’déséquilibrés' is not used only if one who commits violence is Muslim. In the following title of a movie with no Muslim characters, a boy who pushed a girl off the bridge is described as déséquilibrés:

Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

Post by DingbatI say: For brevity, my comments are limited to the use of theword. Notwithstanding the possible legal implication that theunbalanced might be not guilty by reason of insanity, ’déséquilibrés'is not used only if one who commits violence is Muslim. In thefollowing title of a movie with no Muslim characters, a boy who pushed

I am told that, in England & in English, coroners rendering a verdict ofsuicide are fond of saying "while the balance of his mind wastemporarily disturbed". Lovely irony.

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Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘AllahuAkbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floorapartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string ofoffenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scalingthe exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – tostab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents agrowing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘AllahuAkbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the actsof ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexiconfor such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/I say: For brevity, my comments are limited to the use of the word.Notwithstanding the possible legal implication that the unbalanced might benot guilty by reason of insanity, ’déséquilibrés' is not used only if one whocommits violence is Muslim. In the following title of a movie with no Muslimcharacters, a boy who pushed a girl off the bridge is described asDéséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children,pushed her off a bridge

That pnly shows it had previous currency, it doesn't negate a newspecialized development.

Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people. This is based on the fiction that Islam is a religion of peace, and therefore, Muslims who murder for islamic sake are not doing so, according to that fiction.I think there's something in these islamo-jihadist murders and attacks a feature that the medias' ideology cannot even think: murder in the name of Islam. They believe it cannot exist, even though the Qoran is brimful with calls to murder, throatcutting and massmurder.A.

Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people.

With all due respect to victims and all due condolence to their survivors and with all due cognizance that these instances make grisly reading, my take on it was that if French news media use 'unbalanced' to refer to non-Muslim murderers too (or attempted murderers), then it's not clear that they're making a special concession to Muslims by calling their murderers unbalanced.

Post by Arnaud FournetThis is based on the fiction that Islam is a religion of peace, and therefore, Muslims who murder for islamic sake are not doing so, according to that fiction.

I haven't addressed what it is based on, so whether this observation be true or not is irrelevant to my observation.

Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people.

With all due respect to victims and all due condolence to their survivors and with all due cognizance that these instances make grisly reading, my take on it was that if French news media use 'unbalanced' to refer to non-Muslim murderers too (or attempted murderers), then it's not clear that they're making a special concession to Muslims by calling their murderers unbalanced.

"French" medias, most of which are in fact pro-USA, pro-NATO, pro-Zionist, if not bought and sold-out to them, never use the word "déséquilibré", except for Muslim murderers.A.

Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people.

With all due respect to victims and all due condolence to their survivors and with all due cognizance that these instances make grisly reading, my take on it was that if French news media use 'unbalanced' to refer to non-Muslim murderers too (or attempted murderers), then it's not clear that they're making a special concession to Muslims by calling their murderers unbalanced.

"French" medias, most of which are in fact pro-USA, pro-NATO, pro-Zionist, if not bought and sold-out to them, never use the word "déséquilibré", except for Muslim murderers.A.

Post by Arnaud FournetThis is based on the fiction that Islam is a religion of peace, and therefore, Muslims who murder for islamic sake are not doing so, according to that fiction.

I haven't addressed what it is based on, so whether this observation be true or not is irrelevant to my observation.

What was your "observation"?A.

That the word is not used just for Muslim murderers. I gave an example of a non-Muslim who pushed a girl off a bridge. As it happened (in the story) she survived but not because he was not trying to kill her.

When are people in this newsgroup going to stop using Google Groups sothey no longer post such unreadable junk?

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Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people.

With all due respect to victims and all due condolence to their survivors and with all due cognizance that these instances make grisly reading, my take on it was that if French news media use 'unbalanced' to refer to non-Muslim murderers too (or attempted murderers), then it's not clear that they're making a special concession to Muslims by calling their murderers unbalanced.

"French" medias, most of which are in fact pro-USA, pro-NATO, pro-Zionist, if not bought and sold-out to them, never use the word "déséquilibré", except for Muslim murderers.A.

Post by Arnaud FournetThis is based on the fiction that Islam is a religion of peace, and therefore, Muslims who murder for islamic sake are not doing so, according to that fiction.

I haven't addressed what it is based on, so whether this observation be true or not is irrelevant to my observation.

What was your "observation"?A.

That the word is not used just for Muslim murderers. I gave an example of a non-Muslim who pushed a girl off a bridge. As it happened (in the story) she survived but not because he was not trying to kill her.

Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people.

With all due respect to victims and all due condolence to their survivors and with all due cognizance that these instances make grisly reading, my take on it was that if French news media use 'unbalanced' to refer to non-Muslim murderers too (or attempted murderers), then it's not clear that they're making a special concession to Muslims by calling their murderers unbalanced.

"French" medias, most of which are in fact pro-USA, pro-NATO, pro-Zionist, if not bought and sold-out to them, never use the word "déséquilibré", except for Muslim murderers.A.

Post by Arnaud FournetThis is based on the fiction that Islam is a religion of peace, and therefore, Muslims who murder for islamic sake are not doing so, according to that fiction.

I haven't addressed what it is based on, so whether this observation be true or not is irrelevant to my observation.

What was your "observation"?A.

That the word is not used just for Muslim murderers. I gave an example of a non-Muslim who pushed a girl off a bridge. As it happened (in the story) she survived but not because he was not trying to kill her.

Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people.

With all due respect to victims and all due condolence to their survivors and with all due cognizance that these instances make grisly reading, my take on it was that if French news media use 'unbalanced' to refer to non-Muslim murderers too (or attempted murderers), then it's not clear that they're making a special concession to Muslims by calling their murderers unbalanced.

"French" medias, most of which are in fact pro-USA, pro-NATO, pro-Zionist, if not bought and sold-out to them, never use the word "déséquilibré", except for Muslim murderers.A.

Post by Arnaud FournetThis is based on the fiction that Islam is a religion of peace, and therefore, Muslims who murder for islamic sake are not doing so, according to that fiction.

I haven't addressed what it is based on, so whether this observation be true or not is irrelevant to my observation.

What was your "observation"?A.

That the word is not used just for Muslim murderers. I gave an example of a non-Muslim who pushed a girl off a bridge. As it happened (in the story) she survived but not because he was not trying to kill her.

If the dog whistle is understood by everybody it is justas effective a communication as an explicit statement. Thisis the way that racial facts are communicated in the US.To me even the most devout Muslim must be unbalanced to commitmurder for any motive whatsoever. I consider murder an unnaturalaction for a human being.

A few decades back, I attended a speech by a white American convert to Islam on the subject of Khomeini's death sentence on Salman Rushdie. 'Just as there are causes worth dying for, there are causes worth killing for,' he thundered. That drew a rousing ovation from the audience, mostly Muslim (including women); they erupted 'Allah hu akbar!' Was the whole audience unbalanced? Search for jihad here:http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2005/05/hirsi_ali_the_empowered_aposta.html

Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people.

With all due respect to victims and all due condolence to their survivors and with all due cognizance that these instances make grisly reading, my take on it was that if French news media use 'unbalanced' to refer to non-Muslim murderers too (or attempted murderers), then it's not clear that they're making a special concession to Muslims by calling their murderers unbalanced.

"French" medias, most of which are in fact pro-USA, pro-NATO, pro-Zionist, if not bought and sold-out to them, never use the word "déséquilibré", except for Muslim murderers.A.

Post by Arnaud FournetThis is based on the fiction that Islam is a religion of peace, and therefore, Muslims who murder for islamic sake are not doing so, according to that fiction.

I haven't addressed what it is based on, so whether this observation be true or not is irrelevant to my observation.

What was your "observation"?A.

That the word is not used just for Muslim murderers. I gave an example of a non-Muslim who pushed a girl off a bridge. As it happened (in the story) she survived but not because he was not trying to kill her.

If the dog whistle is understood by everybody it is justas effective a communication as an explicit statement. Thisis the way that racial facts are communicated in the US.To me even the most devout Muslim must be unbalanced to commitmurder for any motive whatsoever. I consider murder an unnaturalaction for a human being.

Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people.

With all due respect to victims and all due condolence to their survivors and with all due cognizance that these instances make grisly reading, my take on it was that if French news media use 'unbalanced' to refer to non-Muslim murderers too (or attempted murderers), then it's not clear that they're making a special concession to Muslims by calling their murderers unbalanced.

"French" medias, most of which are in fact pro-USA, pro-NATO, pro-Zionist, if not bought and sold-out to them, never use the word "déséquilibré", except for Muslim murderers.A.

Post by Arnaud FournetThis is based on the fiction that Islam is a religion of peace, and therefore, Muslims who murder for islamic sake are not doing so, according to that fiction.

I haven't addressed what it is based on, so whether this observation be true or not is irrelevant to my observation.

What was your "observation"?A.

That the word is not used just for Muslim murderers. I gave an example of a non-Muslim who pushed a girl off a bridge. As it happened (in the story) she survived but not because he was not trying to kill her.

If the dog whistle is understood by everybody it is justas effective a communication as an explicit statement. Thisis the way that racial facts are communicated in the US.To me even the most devout Muslim must be unbalanced to commitmurder for any motive whatsoever. I consider murder an unnaturalaction for a human being.

Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people.

With all due respect to victims and all due condolence to their survivors and with all due cognizance that these instances make grisly reading, my take on it was that if French news media use 'unbalanced' to refer to non-Muslim murderers too (or attempted murderers), then it's not clear that they're making a special concession to Muslims by calling their murderers unbalanced.

"French" medias, most of which are in fact pro-USA, pro-NATO, pro-Zionist, if not bought and sold-out to them, never use the word "déséquilibré", except for Muslim murderers.A.

Post by Arnaud FournetThis is based on the fiction that Islam is a religion of peace, and therefore, Muslims who murder for islamic sake are not doing so, according to that fiction.

I haven't addressed what it is based on, so whether this observation be true or not is irrelevant to my observation.

What was your "observation"?A.

That the word is not used just for Muslim murderers. I gave an example of a non-Muslim who pushed a girl off a bridge. As it happened (in the story) she survived but not because he was not trying to kill her.

If the dog whistle is understood by everybody it is justas effective a communication as an explicit statement. Thisis the way that racial facts are communicated in the US.To me even the most devout Muslim must be unbalanced to commitmurder for any motive whatsoever. I consider murder an unnaturalaction for a human being.

Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people.

With all due respect to victims and all due condolence to their survivors and with all due cognizance that these instances make grisly reading, my take on it was that if French news media use 'unbalanced' to refer to non-Muslim murderers too (or attempted murderers), then it's not clear that they're making a special concession to Muslims by calling their murderers unbalanced.

"French" medias, most of which are in fact pro-USA, pro-NATO, pro-Zionist, if not bought and sold-out to them, never use the word "déséquilibré", except for Muslim murderers.A.

Post by Arnaud FournetThis is based on the fiction that Islam is a religion of peace, and therefore, Muslims who murder for islamic sake are not doing so, according to that fiction.

I haven't addressed what it is based on, so whether this observation be true or not is irrelevant to my observation.

What was your "observation"?A.

That the word is not used just for Muslim murderers. I gave an example of a non-Muslim who pushed a girl off a bridge. As it happened (in the story) she survived but not because he was not trying to kill her.

If the dog whistle is understood by everybody it is justas effective a communication as an explicit statement. Thisis the way that racial facts are communicated in the US.To me even the most devout Muslim must be unbalanced to commitmurder for any motive whatsoever. I consider murder an unnaturalaction for a human being.

I only look at action - not at talk. Advocating murder is nota good thing but it is not actual murder.

Ah, so Khomeini was blameless, eh?

What an asshole. By your logic, a judge sentencing somebody for incitement to murder is acquitting him by not sentencing him for murder.

It depends on your definition of "murder". And whether the definitiondepends on the local law code or on some kind of sociologicalconstruct. For instance, does "A murdered B" mean A actually wieldedthe weapon (or whatever) that killed B? This is often not an answerablequestion -if several attackers are involved. And there is the questionof actual causality - was it the arsenic that weakened the person or theflu that killed the victim. Or starving, etc. "Murder" is probably notreally definable in a coherent way.

To take a recent US example: Were the officials that allowed the water inFlint, Michigan, to be contaminated with lead guilty of murder because,thirty or forty years from now, some person who was a child in Flint diesprematurely because they were weakened by childhood lead poisoning?

I am inclined to restrict the word "murder" to cases of overt directviolence - and to treat attempted murder as its equivalent.

Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people.

With all due respect to victims and all due condolence to their survivors and with all due cognizance that these instances make grisly reading, my take on it was that if French news media use 'unbalanced' to refer to non-Muslim murderers too (or attempted murderers), then it's not clear that they're making a special concession to Muslims by calling their murderers unbalanced.

"French" medias, most of which are in fact pro-USA, pro-NATO, pro-Zionist, if not bought and sold-out to them, never use the word "déséquilibré", except for Muslim murderers.A.

Post by Arnaud FournetThis is based on the fiction that Islam is a religion of peace, and therefore, Muslims who murder for islamic sake are not doing so, according to that fiction.

I haven't addressed what it is based on, so whether this observation be true or not is irrelevant to my observation.

What was your "observation"?A.

That the word is not used just for Muslim murderers. I gave an example of a non-Muslim who pushed a girl off a bridge. As it happened (in the story) she survived but not because he was not trying to kill her.

If the dog whistle is understood by everybody it is justas effective a communication as an explicit statement. Thisis the way that racial facts are communicated in the US.To me even the most devout Muslim must be unbalanced to commitmurder for any motive whatsoever. I consider murder an unnaturalaction for a human being.

I only look at action - not at talk. Advocating murder is nota good thing but it is not actual murder.

Ah, so Khomeini was blameless, eh?

What an asshole. By your logic, a judge sentencing somebody for incitement to murder is acquitting him by not sentencing him for murder.

One is acquitted of something. The judge or jury may have sentencedthe defendant of incitement of murder rather than murder and thusacquitting of murder. These are legal definitions. You may or notfind a moral distinction.

Post by DingbatIn a violent attack causing trepidation amongst Paris’ Jewish community, a 66-year-old Orthodox woman, Sarah Halimi, was murdered to the cry of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ early Tuesday morning, pushed from the window of her top-floor apartment in Paris’ 11th arrondissement.The accused, a 27-year-old of Muslim origin known to police for a string of offenses, had broken into the apartment of his victim – reportedly scaling the exterior wall from the floor below where he lived with his parents – to stab his victim before throwing her to her death.Whilst the motives behind this crime are not yet 100% clear, it represents a growing phenomenon of criminal acts being preceded by cries of ‘‘Allahu Akbar’’ (‘’God is Great’’) consistently explained by French media as the acts of ‘’déséquilibrés’’, the ‘’unbalanced’’ – a word fast entering the lexicon for such circumstances.http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/paris-horror-elderly-jewish-woman-thrown-apartment-death-cry-allahu-akbar/Déséquilibres (1982) - IMDbShort · A handicapped woman recognizes the man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

there's a tendency among "French" medias to describe Muslim murderers as "unbalanced" people.

With all due respect to victims and all due condolence to their survivors and with all due cognizance that these instances make grisly reading, my take on it was that if French news media use 'unbalanced' to refer to non-Muslim murderers too (or attempted murderers), then it's not clear that they're making a special concession to Muslims by calling their murderers unbalanced.

"French" medias, most of which are in fact pro-USA, pro-NATO, pro-Zionist, if not bought and sold-out to them, never use the word "déséquilibré", except for Muslim murderers.A.

Post by Arnaud FournetThis is based on the fiction that Islam is a religion of peace, and therefore, Muslims who murder for islamic sake are not doing so, according to that fiction.

I haven't addressed what it is based on, so whether this observation be true or not is irrelevant to my observation.

What was your "observation"?A.

That the word is not used just for Muslim murderers. I gave an example of a non-Muslim who pushed a girl off a bridge. As it happened (in the story) she survived but not because he was not trying to kill her.

What do ISIS' Muslim victims' survivors say about ISIS' motivation for having killed their relatives (example below)? It seems unlikely that they say they are "religiously motivated Islam-based murders".

Post by DingbatI say: For brevity, my comments are limited to the use of the word.Notwithstanding the possible legal implication that the unbalanced mightbe not guilty by reason of insanity, ’déséquilibrés' is not used only ifone who commits violence is Muslim. In the following title of a movie

I take it as one of the gentler euphemisms for such committers ofatrocities.

Post by Dingbatwith no Muslim characters, a boy who pushed a girl off the bridge isDéséquilibres (1982) - IMDb Short · A handicapped woman recognizesthe man who, when they were children, pushed her off a bridge

I notice the plural (déséquilibrés) in your quotation, which suggeststhat both the man and the handicapped woman are qualified as such,though each one in another register. The woman might be expected to havesuffered trauma and seen her life brought out of balance, maybe becomehandicapped as a consequence?I'm sure it wouldn't be the only title with a single term coveringvarious different characters and registers.