Just caught up with a weekly SF update! Lots of nice new shoos have come in I see.
Wait - because you don't understand the pairing, you come up with reams of 'facts' (e.g. shell is a less dressy material so CANNOT be used in a dress shoe) to prove that someone shouldn't buy a pair of MTO shoes?
Refused the order? How come no one has picked up on this - WTF? Who died and made you arbiter of taste? GTFO.
I'm getting shell cordovan made up in a sleek 2-eye derby format, does that fly in your book?
Nice shoes, aj!

I never required anyone to die to make me the arbiter of taste, I just am.

Edit: As to your make up - I cannot possibly see how, but if you wish to spend the money enjoy! You, of course, can always sell them on ebay.

I never required anyone to die to make me the arbiter of taste, I just am.
Edit: As to your make up - I cannot possibly see how, but if you wish to spend the money enjoy! You, of course, can always sell them on ebay.

Just caught up with a weekly SF update! Lots of nice new shoos have come in I see.
Wait - because you don't understand the pairing, you come up with reams of 'facts' (e.g. shell is a less dressy material so CANNOT be used in a dress shoe) to prove that someone shouldn't buy a pair of MTO shoes?
Refused the order? How come no one has picked up on this - WTF? Who died and made you arbiter of taste? GTFO.
I'm getting shell cordovan made up in a sleek 2-eye derby format, does that fly in your book?
Nice shoes, aj!

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Originally Posted by Burton

I never required anyone to die to make me the arbiter of taste, I just am.
Edit: As to your make up - I cannot possibly see how, but if you wish to spend the money enjoy! You, of course, can always sell them on ebay.

Knowing this as you do, then why does my opinion bother you so much and why do you seek my approval?

Looks like you're not an internet expert in sarcasm either, huh.

We can go back and forth all day with this (cough cough) witty repartee but the fact remains that your basic premise - that shell cordovan = casual leather and thus = casual shoe - is flawed. That was built on... what? The creasing pattern of shell? The so-called waterproof-ness of it, which if you had experience with shell, would know is heavily overrated?

Even referencing so-called orthodoxy the concept of a cordovan monkstrap still passes. A monk is a derby. A derby is intrinsically not a formal shoe. Cordovan is not thought of as a formal leather. The format accepts the combination, easily.

And even if it didn't, so what? Are you going to expand your antipathy to cover suede oxfords? Pebble-grained monks? Cordovan oxfords? Sleek lasted cordovan? Clunky lasted calf?

And we're not even considering the influence of colour? Or of last shape - elegant vs clunky?

Were Stetson's expensive in their day? I was wearing Barker Black Captoes once and this guy who looked like Thelonius Monk told me my shoes looked like this old brand he hasn't seen in a long time called Stetsons.

Looks like you're not an internet expert in sarcasm either, huh.
We can go back and forth all day with this (cough cough) witty repartee but the fact remains that your basic premise - that shell cordovan = casual leather and thus = casual shoe - is flawed. That was built on... what? The creasing pattern of shell? The so-called waterproof-ness of it, which if you had experience with shell, would know is heavily overrated?
Even referencing so-called orthodoxy the concept of a cordovan monkstrap still passes. A monk is a derby. A derby is intrinsically not a formal shoe. Cordovan is not thought of as a formal leather. The format accepts the combination, easily.
And even if it didn't, so what? Are you going to expand your antipathy to cover suede oxfords? Pebble-grained monks? Cordovan oxfords? Sleek lasted cordovan? Clunky lasted calf?
And we're not even considering the influence of colour? Or of last shape - elegant vs clunky?

I appreciate that you belive my opinion flawed. I also appreciate that you don't understand my opinion. We can agree to disagree on those items. As to my knowledge of shell cordovan, and your comments on my knowledge--would be like me commenting on your knowledge of atomic particle science. However, I would have one advantage I have seen your thoughts on other matters. I still cannot see why you continue justify yourself to someone you believe so ignorant. Confounded.

Were Stetson's expensive in their day? I was wearing Barker Black Captoes once and this guy who looked like Thelonius Monk told me my shoes looked like this old brand he hasn't seen in a long time called Stetsons.

Even In the mid 60s they were still priced with or above most high-end shoes (JM, Bally, Nettleton, etc.). Stetson were in the $30-$35 range for calf leather.
They were famous for their split toes!!!! Smoother than EG's Dovers