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Not dating a moron in this universe would require ... a degree of pickiness. Okay, Andy has managed it by accident , and Kiley and Matt took a shot at it but then blew it by being moronic about it, but mostly, let's face it, going for cute and stupid is unavoidable.

I'm a little surprised that Amber has only just discovered this situation, though. She's actually quite shrewd in specific areas like this one, and I did like somebody's theory from a while back that she'd guess exactly what Ray had done with Nathan the moment that she heard Ray had got the role. But I have a pet theory that Amber has been seriously over-romanticising Ray all along, so you could say that this is more evidence of that. Now let's see how well their relationship survives this.

Oh, and we have to assume that nothing much more happened between Dillon and Julian that evening. Ruby is shrewdly playing a long game, and has convinced Julian to play along, the same way that Peggy has convinced Sonya that getting Zii back will take a while. (Trans.: The writers don't want to rush those plotlines, or aren't quite sure where to go with them yet.)

For once Amber is the smart one in the relationship. That would be refreshing if not for all this. I will chalk this surprise up to love blindness, but this is bound to cause a conflict with her and Ray and possibly Dillon since he knew, but didn't tell her.

As I said, Amber comes across as quite shrewd in areas she chooses to know about. Her focus is just a bit narrow, and she's a little incurious.

And characters in these comics seem to respect each others' willingness to keep secrets and not get mixed up in stuff that isn't entirely their business. At least, we've had no hint of trouble yet between Ruby and Dillon over her not telling him about Angel.

Amber doesn't care if her boyfriends are into anal sex or not. In fact she introduced Ray to it which made his first time with Nathan easier. What is bothering her is Nathan having sex with her first monogamous lover in awhile.

Absolutely agreed. Though actually, I very much doubt that Amber would be worried about her boyfriend having bisexual tendencies or a bisexual past. (She thought that Gary might be bi while she had hopes about him.) She's an ex-porn star, after all; narrow-minded, she ain't. Heck, I doubt that she's even that worried about fidelity; she brought Chanelle into Gary's bed, as a birthday treat, after all.

But discovering that someone she thinks she's serious about, who might even be "the one", is having a sexual relationship, without her knowledge, with someone she despises - that's going way over the line. The genders of the people involved, and who puts what where, are pretty much irrelevant.

Though if she does have serious feelings for Ray, the strength if her jealous response here may surprise herself.

Spidrift wrote:Absolutely agreed. Though actually, I very much doubt that Amber would be worried about her boyfriend having bisexual tendencies or a bisexual past.

No, she wouldn't - but, when she first met Ray, she confirmed his apparent heterosexuality when she boldly came out and asked if he was gay and all he could do was stare lovingly at her cleavage.

But discovering that someone she thinks she's serious about, who might even be "the one", is having a sexual relationship, without her knowledge, with someone she despises - that's going way over the line.

Was there any indication that she saw Ray as being a serious boyfriend, though? As you mentioned before, Amber's not against open relationships/sharing lovers.

I think her rage more has to do with what she knows about Nathan (being the manipulative scumbag that he is) and seeing that he's using the same tactics he used on Dillon and herself on her idiot lover.

Fluffy wrote:No, she wouldn't - but, when she first met Ray, she confirmed his apparent heterosexuality when she boldly came out and asked if he was gay and all he could do was stare lovingly at her cleavage.

True. That may be adding to her sense of betrayal right now.

Was there any indication that she saw Ray as being a serious boyfriend, though?

We might speculate idly what Amber would have said or done if she had, say, found Ray in bed with another woman, who she didn't know. My own guess is that she thinks that this relationship has at least progressed to the point where the correct thing would be to at least mention the fact before screwing someone else. (Her sexual ethics seem to be open but oddly formal sometimes.) Ray, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have had that memo.

Like I said, I suspect that Amber is heading for a heartbreak with Ray. She may finally have a plotline to call her own.