Too many tabs opened? Tab preview helps you open the tab you’re looking for because it gives you a peek into each page, making it easier for you to switch from tab to tab.

It also helps you manage your browsing time better. You can, for example, look at the preview of your Google Mail or Facebook wall without actually switching to that tab.

You activate it by hovering over a tab or by switching tabs using the keyboard. Try it, we think using it feels natural. Does it get in the way? When and how? If it does, please tell us! Please include details on your input device (mouse, trackpad, etc.)

High DPI support

We’re also happy to announce that Opera now looks nice and crisp on high DPI (low physical dimensions, high resolution) displays. Updated visuals are enabled by default if you happen to own such display device. Don’t forget to report any visual/usability issues you may encounter!

I’d have to submit tab switching by pressing Enter key, F6 CycleToNextTab just shows me another tab’s preview, Enter switches there. I liked it before, F6 to move to next tab without preview, preview is handy on tab hover only.

Now just missing “Remove X from tabs” option and “Activate last active tab on click on the current tab” (so you can just keep mouse in one place and click one tab to activate it and the previous one.
Aaaand a few other little things like tab stacking etc…

Phil

Lack of vertical tabs continues to be the big one causing me to hold out, but these would also be much appreciated

Lacedaemon

Cursor goes straight to search field in History, Extensions, Themes, Settings, Downloads, Plugins etc. Why not in Stash?
(Obvious explanation: I’d like to search for items stored there instantly, not having to press Ctrl+F… )

Also, requested it many times before… A shortcut for Stash please!

András Ács

I find tab peek very natural. I used to disable tab previews precisely because you couldn’t see what was going on the page anyway as they were too small. The new feature fixes this.

Does anyone else find that the Linux version sometimes doesn’t fill password fields? I’m fairly certain that I saved some passwords multiple times and occassionally they are not filled in.

Resizing the window here is very janky, showing small random rectangles and other glitchy things. It might be Aura, but Chrome doesn’t exhibit this. I am using the xorg Radeon driver on Ubuntu 14.04.

When Opera any of the streams download an update (especially if a user is on the opera://about/ page), prompt them to restart Opera to update (I know it is on Windows, tho not OS X, tho it could also prompt them on Linux to update (via how ever the update is set up)

Wando Schneider

I liked. But one thing REALLY bothers me in this feature: I use shortcuts to switch between tabs (CTRL + TAB, CTRL + SHIFT + TAB) and that’s essencial on my work. But now, instead of switching between tabs, it gives me a preview, and I need to release the key to actually open the tab. Instead of saving time, in my case, I’m wasting a little bit.

escruting

Yep, same here, i liked when ctrl+tab was a fast way to change between tabs (like 1 and 2), but this makes it so slow.

John Doe

Same here. I find myself waiting for the preview to appear when switching with keyboard shortcuts, which is my main way of switching tabs.
The preview on mouse over is pretty nice.

The transition animation from one preview to another preview? or from preview-to-page?

moto0000

All of them 😛

DataZByteS

Initial transition could be faster. However I think exposing the delay in advanced settings is a better way of doing this. Some would prefer peek to trigger instantly, but I can see how it could be irritating if you just hovering about.

ooblv

no more segfaults on Linux. Thanks!
Just 2 things:
– still very difficult to resize the window because you can only do that with the cursor on the 1px window border. The resize cursor should appear while approaching from both sides.
-I know you are only supporting Ubuntu for now but lot of people use other distros with different themes and lot of Ubuntu users don’t use Ambiance so supporting system theme and window control position (and possibly scrollbars) is very important, until it doesn’t support the theme at least as Chrome I’m sure lot of people won’t use it because it looks out of place. (Some themes on linux, like the elementary theme, have 1 or more window control to the left so I suppose the Opera menu should be moved in the case you will support them; personally I would like a red O in the rightmost part of the toolbar).

Some less important stuff:
-In speed dial there’s a white gradient in the top part. I think you added that because of the grey entries (speed dial, stash, discover). I’m not really sure tho if it does look good on some dark themes. Maybe add the possibility to take it off and make the text white, or some automatic thing? idk
-I would really appreciate the possibility to choose a thinner menu, or to choose what it should appear in it. As of now I find it way too big.

Piotr

Is there any way to preview how much data was saved by Opera Turbo? Like in Opera Mobile on Android, where you can see amount of saved data (ie. 100 MB of 200MB). If not, it would be nice to see this in Opera on desktop.

Emil Huber

I whish this back, also.

Dave-H

Is it just me, or has the default size of everything changed in this build?
Everything is much bigger than before, speed dial, stash, discover, and web pages, and I now have to set the zoom level to 75% to make it look as it did before!
Web pages look really zoomed in and cropped on 100% now.

Lacedaemon

Happened to me too and I had to change Windows dpi to 100% instead of 110% 🙁

Dave-H

Glad to hear I’m not the only one!
I haven’t changed anything on my Windows settings, and nor do I want to.

Helge Andre Gjølme

What is your windows dpi set to?

Dave-H

120, always has been.

Marcin Mitek

What screen resolutions and screen sizes do you have? It’s the question to all of you 🙂 You can decrease the zoom level for all pages in Settings. It matches the DPI level currently.

Dave-H

I’m on 1920×1080 on a 37″ widescreen monitor.
Setting the default zoom level to 75% returns things to looking as they did on the previous builds, although I also then have to turn up the minimum font size setting or the settings menu text is minute!

Inquisitor

1920×1080 (1080p)
Setting font size to ‘Large’ and Page zoom to 75% makes it look acceptable, but I’d wish I could rather have it set to Normal and 100%, just as it was in the previous O24 build – which looked fine.

Helge Andre Gjølme

It is due to the HiDPI being enabled.
I would recommend you to open:
Settings > Websites
And change the settings under “Display” to your liking.

Dave-H

Already done that!
Setting the default zoom to 75% returns almost everything back to looking as it was before, but surely it should be right at 100%?!

Inquisitor

Mine is set to ‘Normal’ (125%) – It’s always been like that and O12 and the previous build of O24 look perfectly allright.

Lacedaemon

Well I guess it is the ugly face of auto-updating :-/

Marcin Mitek

Actually, we were testing mostly on laptops with such screens, not tablets. But this is the first build with HiDPI support enabled, so some issues are expected, sorry for any inconvenience.

Lacedaemon

Fair enough. As long as you are aware of it, I’m happy.

Inquisitor

Yes, here exactly the same. Previous build was perfect, now everything is enlarged.

João Gonçalves

When I hover the mouse above an extension icon, the yellow text balloon that appears, shows for a very brief moment the popup text from the previous extension icon I hovered before.
It’s hard to take a screenshot to prove it, but it’s noticeable.
If your hover the mouse above several extension icons, you can clearly see this artifact.

I’ve slowed down the video so that the bug is more noticeable.
See the video from 2:00 forward.
You will see the popup display the wrong extension name for a brief moment. This happens always with me.

ayespy

Yeah. It does not do that at all here on my Win 8.1.

João Gonçalves

This happens in both my Win 8.1 machines

ayespy

Perhaps it has something to do with the extensions themselves, or with your resources. My processor speed and RAM, for instance may make the change too fast to be visible.

João Gonçalves

Perhaps. It can be that.
Only the developpers can answer.

Emanuele

Hi

I used it for some days and for what I can see, it’s very “cool” but apart that, I’ve to say it fells less “natural” and a bit confusing compared to the old tab previews … Initially I supposed the problem was habits, but after some days it’s still here… I don’t know if this could help you improve it… I used it on a 21″ monitor with standard mouse

So to be more concise: I like it very much, but it stays on my way and slows down my work

When is it in the way? Exactly what are you doing when it slows you down?

Emanuele

sorry for my english skills :P, with “slows down” I don’t mean performance problems, but about my “workflow” … for example a lot of times I put my pointer outside of the browser page and now often this opens the preview hover it… I know is a problem of mine and my habits, but I think this could be a good feedback 😉

However I’ll try to use it more and more … maybe with time it will be more natural for my mind

_artem_

+1 I ment just the same, you just move your mouse up without looking and tab preview shows up

_artem_

it’s also confusing when you put your mouse cursor accidentally onto another tab while reading some article or watching some video and it covers the content you was reading/watching

How and when did it get up there? Did you push aside the cursor because it was blocking the text? etc.

_artem_

either cursor is blocking some text or you just move the mouse just because 😀 cuz it’s somehow too near to you and you just push the mouse and its cursor always gets onto another tab. just try it. when your tab bar is full with tabs and you just move your mouse up and tab preview covers half of the page you was reading

Nekomajin43

I have the same problem.

_artem_

it doesn’t show flash elements 🙁 if you watch some pron live chats, you can’t see what’s going on while looking at a tab preview (I’m not talking of live kinda animated previews, but instead of a flash element there just a blank space):-D
please add extensions support to speed-dial thumbnails. I remove some unneeded page elements (including adcraps, headers, footers, left and right columns with unneeded categories, suggestions and so on – I only want to see content!) but these all are shown in the thumbnails, that’s not beautiful! 🙂

Also, the weird DWrite font bug is still there, happens for example in emails in Hotmail.com. Or any web using Calibri.

And the tab previews do get in the way, unfortunately. I prefered them in a old Opera way, this is too huge.

Dave-H

Size problem already reported.

Marko Koivuniemi

Tab Preview is nice when there is preview available – “Preview is not currently available” grey windows when using delayed tab loading is annoying. I think it should try to fetch preview if it’s not available. I have many tabs and I dont always go in every tab after starting Opera. I think preview should be saved also and I don’t wanna see this “not available” notification ever. If you would like to show that preview is old maybe you could find better way to that – maybe some time stamp on preview image?

Lacedaemon

^^True dat.

myoperaexile

I definitely do not want it to make web requests in this case, though your idea for a saved preview image is not a bad one. However, in my case, the cache lives on my RAM drive, so it won’t exist after I reboot. I’m fine with that though.

Marko Koivuniemi

Hmm. I think this preview image should be part of sessions – so if you have saved session you have previews with it. But I understand problems with web requests also. I (as old school Opera user) need options – more the better 😉

BS-Harou

When I press Ctrl+Tab (and hold ctrl) it takes about a second before the first preview appears. While it makes sense to delay the preview on hovering (and I actually would like if the delay on hover would take a second longer), when using keyboard it seems just like a waste of time 😛

Emanuele

I totally agree … maybe a good fine tuning on animations and delays could improve all, but actually implementation seems to cause too much problems … old visual tabs/tab previews were surely less cool but a lot more useful

BS-Harou

Actually, I like this better than the old previews.

Emanuele

I like it too, as I said previously, but it should receive some work to be less “intrusive” 😉

Well, this feature is cool, though not what I prefer… I still miss visual tabs very mucho. 😉 The preview is too big for me, and it appears too soon for its size, blocking my view of the current tab every time I let the cursor over another tab before switching (a habit of mine that was previously harmless and now became annoying).

I would prefer the previews to be smaller and aligned with the tab I’m hovering. In that case, it wouldn’t bother me that they appeared instantly. If not, I’ like to have a little bit of a delay between hovering the tab and the preview appearing.

I can live with the current implementation, though. Kudos for the new feature!

mehdus

Can’t agree more

Deus Ex Vino

Maybe size/alignment settings?

Sn3ipen

I like to just hover over a tab to get a glimpse of another page when i am typing stuff.

A pinned tab with your favourite web mailer that updates the favicon, web notifications and tab preview bring you pretty close. Or are you voting for Opera Apps? 😉

escruting

Could you improve pinned tabs though? Right now the only way to maintain pinned tabs openen on browser start is by choosing “start where i left off”, and this makes all the tabs remember the history (i mean long pressing the back arrow show you all the tabs you visited since you pìnned that tab). I have pinned twitter and it has an infinite history of all the tweets i visited in the last 6+ months.

Interesting … just noticed that I have a Gmail with history of 2+ month … I would actually guess that it’s not a performance issue, but of course, if you are not going to need that history it’s useless.
Anyway, improving pinned tabs is among the things we want to do eventually.

You know what I had in O12 was mail and bookmarks manager pinned at the left, Speed Dial showing as main page and saved all that as Default session. Give me that back with new tab peeks and Opera will kick some serious butt.

The thing is O15+ will un-pin those tabs upon restart, and tab titles are expanded again, which arbitrarily imposses a behavior not meant by user, and certaintly not what is offered. We should have an option so that they remain pinned or the ability to load custom sessions as before.

Didn’t try again until I read your comment now, but no change. Guess my option is never close it, unless needed.

It’s not loading my pic, disqus sucks.

Guest

Why it didn’t upload before?

ma_t14

Pretty close? It’s only pretty close when all your email comes from a single account or email provider. Once you have more than one account from different providers and want to maintain and manage all those emails from a single interface you start wishing that your browser had an integrated email client to make things easier (like old Opera did).I understand that the majority of users have simpler needs and that was the reason the client was removed in the first place.

Opera Apps, are you hinting something here? 🙂 If the Opera team developed an App platform for Opera similar to that of Chrome’s that made it possible for things like an email client to be developed then that would solve many of hardcore users’ problems. If you guys could replicate the old email client as an Opera App that would be awesome!

ayespy

Opera Extensions. Email as an extension. And one better than that crummy simplemail for FF, which uses TONS of processor cycles and collects mail slower than Christmas.

I’m aware of Mailpile, I don’t find it that good to be honest. Big and clunky. I want the mail from Opera themselves, with their distinctive design, performance and good ergonomy as proven by M2 and Myopera. They can do it, there are no excuses or 3rd-party alternatives.

zhnujm

The problem is: we won’t get this from opera….

Lacedaemon

We can if you join me instead of being pessimistic 🙂

zhnujm

Oh, i was very optimistic, one year ago…. until they released Opera Mail + Opera 15 and made it pretty clear that they wont implement an email client in the new Opera.
You and I are a much to small minority, even smaller than people who use bookmarks 😉

And, imho, look at the progress in the last year, they do not have the manpower to do such a thing.
Look at this release, the holy grail is a tab preview…..

Lacedaemon

We ‘ll see about that, that’s why I am here. :-p Let’s wait first for the response of @thorbenb or @alexandersen

NoName

Pressing Esc while holding Ctrl is opening the startmenu/Modern UI in Windows.
It’s also hard to do with one hand.

Veger

I like this idea/tip of using the tab-preview!
But (unfortunately) CTRL+Escape opens the System Activity on KDE… 🙁

I tried to use CTRL+SHIFT+Escape, but that does not close the tab preview..? (and is a bit of an inconvenient key combination to just close the preview)

Mike

I’m going to assume that tab stacking won’t re-appear 🙁

derExperte

Speaking of tabs I really wish you would re-introduce the ‘hold right mouse button, then use the scroll wheel to change tabs’-funcionality (preferably without showing previews). There were some add-ons but they didn’t work 100% or at all and it makes using the new Opera so inconvenient.

> Speaking of tabs I really wish you would re-introduce the ‘hold right mouse button, then use the scroll wheel to change tabs’-functionality

Word!

old opera fan wants back

even though I really loved it when Opera came up with that initially, IMO it was sort-of surpassed by switching tabs just by hovering in the tab-bar and scrolling the wheel, like some other browsers do natively or with some extension (sparing your joints of needless clicking, to compensate a little bit for the new Flickr design, that seems to have been made with the assumption that people like clicking as much as possible to go from A to B). “Sort of” because Opera Presto still had the possibility of hiding the tab-bar completely, so one could use that to navigate through tabs still, or in full screen. But even then a next-level hack that was possible was to create menus with all the tabs, either (or both) as a drop-down menu on some bar, or in the right-click context menu. That was really wonderful, I’ve always liked to tweak GUIs functionality for according to my taste (like an auto-hiding bar on windows, also taller to have two rows of apps), the old Opera was really unique in possibilities of GUI customization, not just superficial “skinning”, but actually functional things.

bwat47

Yeah this was one of my favorite o12 features. makes switching tabs so easy and quick, and allows you to use mouse gestures for pretty much everything. Currently we can use mouse gestures for closing/opening tabs, but come time to switch tab I have to move my mouse up 🙁 It would make the workflow for mouse gestures users much smoother if we had this feature.

Denyer

“Rocker Gestures” I think they called these. Or maybe that was the “Left button right button” combo gesture, I can’t remember. Either way, I need both back!

derExperte

‘Rocker Gestures’ are still in but you have to activate them, check the options.

Denyer

Oop, yep already had them on, so the wheely gesture clearly wasn’t covered by that term! 🙂

Odd that, given that you rock the wheel, but not the buttons…

serendipity1002

Pages with Disqus still crash randomly, it took me 8 reloads to read all the comments here in this thread ;-<

Александр

Hallelujah! First feature from opera 12.x came back. Hope for tab grouping, multiline tabs and site logos in speed dial

Interesting, our tests have more or less shown that “thumbnail” previews don’t help people much in distinguishing which site they are looking at.
My personal example would be five Stackoverflow pages … they more or less look the same at 300px width

NoName

Actually it’s the opposite for me. (I’m a visually person)

If I had 5 StackOverflow tabs, I would already know which is what before previewing. I just need to see that it’s a SO site.

In addition to my post, I figured, that the position of the tab preview in Opera 12 is moving, and therefore I can remember where all tabs is (well not exactly, I’m not Rainman :)). Peek shows the image in the same placement, so I have to watch where the cursor is while moving it, at the same time that I’m looking at the peek previews.

escruting

Maybe you could let it be user defined with advanced power user settings, just like thumbnail size on speed dial. I think your interface is flexible enough to enable you to do that, but please put the preview closer to the tab and mouse cursor, not in the middle of the screen.

ABDX

totally agree with the “cant distinguish which site you are looking at” part, and think the current size is more than perfect

Lacedaemon

I think it’s more of a preview delay issue instead of a size one. Whenever I have let’s say 3 similar tabs open, I move the mouse cursor to one of those to be ready, but it takes me some time (in ms) to decide which one I want to click. In this timeframe the preview image should not be activated cause it messes up the screen and abstracts you from your planned action. So a small delay before it kicks in would be more appreciated.

The delays are something we are actively working on … which reminds me to stop answering and work a bit for a change 😉

Lacedaemon

🙂 . Thanks for listening.

Inquisitor

The O24 preview is too obtrusive and distractive. It cover almost the complete screen.

Dave-H

I agree. It’s a nice idea, but there should be an option to decrease the preview size, or even go to small thumbnails under the tabs, as in Opera 12.17.

putin

This is very refreshing! Wouldn’t it be nice if this was the starting point to make the preview overlay two-column, with the right column being a vertical list of opened tabs, and the preview on the left, all this being triggered by Ctrl+Tab? Upon repeated activation of this keystrokes, the selected item would cycle in recently used order, and the corresponding tab highlighted, as an indication that Opera would switch to it when releasing Ctrl+Tab. Upon release of the keystroke, Opera switches to that tab. If you remember Opera 12 you know what I mean. *wink*

Also, while I like how things are going, I feel that the initial overlay animation is too slow and just slows me down when hovering a large amount of tabs to find the right one. There is only information about one of them at a time (see suggestion in the previous paragraph).

Nice thing about tab preview is it can be turned off by opera://flags/#tab-preview . I don’t like it, won’t use it, you will faster click and see 3 cards than wait for preview wasting resources.

I’ve probably localized CPU cycle monster on my config. It’s constantly fade in fade out status bar text at the bottom. Just moving my mouse from one speed dial to another gets my CPU to 100% (maybe you are also loading page on hovering? either way it’s killing my CPU). Whenever status bar text shows I get 100% CPU. Is there any way to turn this off (especially this annoying fading animation)? I don’t have this problems in chromium.

Now that Linux has it’s version I will give you some feedback. My wishlist:
1. Bookmark button like in Opera 12 or newer Firefox. I don’t need start page button, I would switch it with bookmark button anytime.
2. Speed dial enhancements:
– I want to hide + button (it really looks messy with it)
– thumbnails are way too small and I can’t change their size
– I can’t choose my own images
– I don’t like, don’t use discover, stash (maybe will use it but with bookmark button I don’t see a point) and I don’t need this always visible bar at the top. If it’s absolutely needed and can’t be hidden then why it must be at the top? Wasting speed dial vertical space
– Search area is way too big. Many users (me included) would probably like to hide it (I only use address bar search anyway, it’s way faster) giving more space to speed dial
– scrollbars in speed dial are really awful idea, you can give some nice graphic indications and scroll whole screen like in tablets. It will look and fell better than scrolling bars especially with this pinned top bar always wasting vertical space.
– speed dial groups
– for some sites opera doesn’t create speed dial thumbnails (example: http://anime.tanuki.pl/strony/) – bug
– if you need reference of good speed dial experience look at speed dial in Opera 12 or FVD speed dial extension on firefox/chromium https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/speed-dial-fvd-new-tab-pa/llaficoajjainaijghjlofdfmbjpebpa
3. Changing proxy setting in Chromium changes it also in Opera (probably bug)
4. Opera menu button at the top is just a waste of tab space (also not attractive at all). I would like to see it somewhere on main bar as nice button, like in chromium, firefox
5. Whole top bar with address field is too bulky. In my opinion it would look better if it was a little thiner. The best solution would be to give us option to change it’s size. More vertical space is always welcome
6. Tabs are too clustered, they look weird. Why not give them a little space between like in Opera 12, especially when there is a lot of space on tab bar and not much tabs are opened.
7. Opera isn’t looking for plugins at all. To get chromium pepper flash to work I must do it manually with -ppapi-flash-path=/usr/lib/PepperFlash/libpepflashplayer.so –ppapi-flash-version=14.0.0.125
8. Do you have some contact with Adobe to put some pressure on them to include drm module in pepper flash on Linux? There is one in NPAPI flash but it will never work in Opera 24+, right? It would be also nice to have java pepper plugin too.
9. More control over search engines. We can’t change letters/delete top 5 and made default whichever we want
10. System DE integration. Chromium 35+ aura is doing it right on Linux, can’t you copy that? For now the interface integration with system settings is non-existent and it looks really bad
11. I can’t choose start/new page?
12. Tab stacking would be nice to have again, especially as an option to turn on/off
13. There is no need for autoupdate on Linux, because it must be done by package manager either way, why include it/run it. I get this on console
/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera-developer/opera_autoupdate: /usr/lib/libssl.so.1.0.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/opera-developer/opera_autoupdate)
14. Option to turn off all UI animations (all fading effects too). They are just wasting my time and resources

What I want from browser is fast, simple experience. For now Opera has too much confusing eyecandy which turns my CPU into heater and too little useful things (bookmark button, tab stacking, easy access to closed sites, UI customization options)

3. Doesn’t it change it globally? In my case it opens KDE’s proxy settings
4. Maybe an O? I don’t like Chromium’s aproach
5. Agreed
7. Thanks for the flash tip! I though I was going crazy 😛 Would be nice if it showed up in –help though…
9. Yes, please, I’d love to have DuckDuckGo as default again
10. Opera has so little chrome that I don’t really mind, especially if they make the tab bar thinner
13. Agreed

Besides Opera v12 bookmark manager & other Opera v12 things, can you make a download window with all options as in Opera v12 => Run, Save and Cancel, not only Save and Cancel. I want to have an option for that! When I download a small ZIP or RAR file, I opened it every time, not downloaded it. I don’t need that ZIP or RAR file on my computer, (only in Opera temp folder :)). In new versions of Opera, there is no option for Open button. Why? Chromium? OK, but you could (must :P) put it in Opera options.

I guess this shouldn’t have been included in the changelog. We have an “offline” version of the start page that is just a normal website. The main difference is that you can load any arrangement of Speed Dials, which is super handy to fix bugs for hard to reproduce scenarios. So it’s almost purely internal, nothing to see unfortunately 😉

dqdb

Problem 1: I’m reading and scrolling down the page by pressing the Down key on the keyboard. I notice that the mouse cursor covers the text, so I grab the mouse and I move it to the top of the screen and large tab preview opens, and it doesn’t disappear when I press the Down key.

Problem 2: tab preview is too large and shading is not enough. I closed the active tab accidentally twice today instead of the previewed tab.

Problem 3: display timeouts are too low. When I’m switching to a new tab with Ctrl+Tab and I release the Tab key a bit “slowly” (slowly = fraction of a second, but slower than your hardcoded timer value) the tab preview appears and I have to wait the animation which is cool for the first time, but very annoying for the 20th time in 5 minutes. Same problem using the touchpad for tab switching: your hardcoded timer value is too low, I see the animation on every 3rd tab switch.

Do you plan to reintroduce RMB + wheel mouse gesture for tab switching? Do you plan to display the tab list next to the preview image like in O12?

Opera 12 solution was far-far better than this one. Don’t reinvent the wheel when it is working perfectly.

Nekomajin43

I’d like to quote this line: “Don’t reinvent the wheel when it is working perfectly.”

Do you really think O12 preview was perfect? It annoyed me that I had to “move the mouse around” the preview to get to the address bar … and could you really get an overview of the hovered tab with this thumbnail size? Oh, and it didn’t annoy you that the preview “lagged” behind the mouse a bit?

I think O12 preview was a bit controversial actually.

Nekomajin43

I was speaking in general. If you ask me, I don’t like tab previews at all. I think it’s useless. (Well, it’s handy with tab stacking.) But I can live with it as long as I have an option to turn it off.

But as I see, you can satisfy everyone if you provide some options to set the thumbnail size and timing. Then you don’t have to argue about the current and the old way.

> Problem 2: tab preview is too large and shading is not enough. I closed the active tab accidentally twice today instead of the previewed tab.

I guess you used a shortcut to do that? Would you be less confused if the keystroke to close the current tab would close the previewed tab instead?

dqdb

Yes, I’ve used Ctrl+F4 for closing the tab as I always do. Your solution (closing the previewed tab) would be a little better, but the best solution would be
* a list of opened tab titles to the right of the preview like in O12 (which is clickable with the mouse), or
* a smaller preview, or
* a visually more flashy design (no, I’m not blind but the shading is definitely not enough for me).

I admit that O24 solution is visually better than in O12, but the usability is worse (at least for me).

I’ve found a small problem: Opera 24 is running full screen in the background, Outlook (or any other application) is running full screen in the foreground. I’m moving the mouse pointer to tthe top of the screen because it covers the text of a mail (yes, I know that all of my tab preview stories starts with moving the mouse cursor ot of the way 🙂 ). After reading the mail I switch to Opera using Alt+Tab, Opera window is shown and 0.5 s later tab preview also for a random tab.

Similar problem: Opera is running windowed (= not full screen) and the top of the window is on the top of the screen. I click on the maximize button, Opera window goes full screen and tab preview is displayed for a random tab.

So I would extend my last tought: I think you shouldn’t display tab preview immediately after window state change (resize, move, activate, show).

The problem with the tab thumbnails in Opera 12 was that you couldn’t really distinguish between different pages on the same site. Now you can actually see the contents of tabs clearly. Most people seem to prefer the new preview over the old one as well.

We have a nice task to fix Mac 10.10 bugs, currently Opera is a bit unstable in that OS.

Furious

Hi. Using linux preview on Ubuntu. 2 Things that come to my mind.

1. Is it possible to put “opera” button up in the system bar on top? To save place for tabs and integrity with the system.
2. Use default ubuntu scroll bars? i love them so it would be nice to see them avalible.
Thats it. Overal working well 🙂
PS> Have Opera came back to “Opera turbo” after a rename to “offroad? If so, thats a cool thing 🙂
Opera TUBRO FTW 😛

Андрей

Also, it seems like HiDPI isn’t working on Linux (Kubuntu 14.04 x64), is it known issue?

In it’s current state, yes it is useless. But I can see it can potentially become a very good source of news for your daily read. To achieve that though it needs much better customization. Some things from the top of my head:
– choosing or blacklisting sites
– algorithm to show sites that you visit more often closer to the top

This is the same old idiotic claim about removing email client and other features in the past, reason? I don’t use it, I can’t overcome the very fact that it is present, and ultimately I speak in the name of the whole freaking user community.

Tab Preview =A perfect +10 and it feels natural.
It seams like the old version 12.16 but extremely better plus you seen the full page more better….
For more perfection add a option to increase to 100% full page preview.

Trevor Gough

I’d like to see a preview of all open tabs on a single page. Internet Explorer does this or has done it in the recent past. Palemoon browser does it, too. Palemoon even lets you do a search amongst open tabs on that single preview page. It’s very elegant and the best way to go, in my opinion.

This is due to a temporary browser.js patch until we get better HTML5 video support. Many of the videos were served as webm with a maximum resolution of 360p. When using Flash you get the chance to choose between more resolutions.

We will remove the patch as soon as we can 🙂

cyberrufus

Thanks for the clarification.

Rafael Luik

When you remove PATCH-1164 you mean.

ayespy

At zoom = 90%, everything in this version of Opera is just about perfect for me. The font on the latest iterations of Opera (ESPECIALLY UI fonts) is really just a little too small for my 61-year-old eyes and bifocals, and the entire page was just a little too big in this version (related to perfecting HiDPI I assume) to fit entirely within the size window I keep open for Opera. 90% is a REALLY good happy medium.

I truly hope devs will consider settling on a default 100% zoom size which is not so goddamned tiny as the sizes in current Release version, yet not so Brobdignagian as default is in latest Developer.

Bug report:
The hungarian translation in the settings is incorrect. I’ve reported a certain mistranslation via the bug tracker, but most of the settings looks like it was translated with Google Translate or something similar.

ayespy

An adjustable delay for tab peek seems a necessity. Half the commenters here want it shorter or instantaneous (me, for instance) and half want it longer. For my purposes, longer would be worse. I don’t want to waste time hovering and waiting for it to appear. When I hover, I want to see it – not wait for it. My greatest annoyance in browsing is waiting for things to appear.

Nekomajin43

It’s a great idea. +1

Lacedaemon

With mouse hovering, too fast gets in the way of picking the right tab. With Ctrl+Tab it should be instant though.

Alex Parker

Yeah, I also want a small preview right under the tab itself, LIKE BEFORE, instead of this humongous Godzilla in the middle of my screen.

Emil Huber

This would be a very useful thing.
Please implement it.

Douglas Ryan

But with an Advanced Option to turn it off.

Tom Lindberg

Ah! I haven’t been able to use Opera for the past four months due to the lack of high DPI support, like I’ve commented a few times before.

Before then, like so many others I was bothered with the lack of features Opera 12 had (I’d still like to see a few of them), but during this time when I was forced to use other browsers, I was constantly switching between them, because they just didn’t feel right.

So I’ve now come to really appreciate basic things like the layout, look and feel of Opera.

Thanks for sharing! It’s very nice to hear that there are people that like what we do 🙂

Marcin Mitek

Heart icon is still missing its HiDPI resources, we know that 🙂

dflyra

Another step in the right direction! If you guys tell us where you’re heading and what to expect, it would result to considerably less nagging and less bitter comments. I actually begin to enjoy browsing with Opera Chromium almost as much as with Opera presto! Please inform us: Is there a proper bookmarks manager in your agenda? a better mouse gestures implementation? what are your goals? you don’t have to place a specific time schedule. Just give us a general scope of your targets & priorities.

We did mention that we’re working on, among other things, bookmarks and tab improvements.

_artem_

any reason why pushbullet (installed from chrome app store) stopped working? I mean its mirroring notification doesn’t work at all. send a testing notification – opera notifications show just nothing,
open chrome, send testing notification again -> chrome shows it. opera doesn’t.
latest build disabled pushbullet and adblock plus, just seconds after you enable them, this build shows both extension icons on the panel but pushbullet shows no notifications

_artem_

installed some demo extensions to test notifications, it shows nothing
web sites show notifications ( google for html5 notifications and the one from mozilla site works, all the other I tested don’t work). so notifications are working BUT not from extensions, those don’t show up

Marcin Mitek

I think I replied about it under the previous blog post, it’s a known issue 🙂

RingMyDingDong

My first impression is: This is better than Opera 12 Tab preview. Well done to the development team. 🙂

I have to agree, but this is also the only significant improvement, most of the browser for me is like a mod Google Chrome

NoName

I would say that it looks better, but is not as useful in practice.

Piotr

I think devs already know, that sidebar is something, that most of Opera 12 users miss. But since we do not see it in new versions of Opera, I have to rise this question: is it even possible to implement such solution in new Opera? Chrome does not have it, so maybe it is not possible. Could someone from dev team share some information about possibilities of this kind of solution?

this is something that I’ve been playing lately (it’s not native feature, but it’s something)
it is still in early development (ugly and bugged)
I miss mostly notes and zooming from O12, so I recreate it for myself
broken in developer builds (and now in stable too) because of this
(I need to change the logic of it)https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=379911&thanks=379911&ts=1401743680
…and my screen recording skills sucks big time ツ
…plus YT downgrades it even more

jeremiedurand

Adblock Plus works again now with this build, thank you ! 🙂

Great build by the way.

fei_l0ng

Hi there,
how do I tell opera not to be so huge?
Is this some kind of HiDPI issue? is there a flag I can use? (And how do I set it?)
Someone else having this issue?

Another question:
How does this flag work
–with-feature:first-run-import
How do I turn first-run-import OFF!?
–with-feature:first-run-import=false ?
–without-feature:first-run-import ?
–with-feature:first-run-import=disabled?

neither seems to work :- (had to rename my .opera folder)

I’m on debian jessie x 64
(with enlightenment 18.8 but it happens in gnome as well)

Christ! Are you planning to give us option to enable or disable your revolutionary HDPI support permanently? Once there was a flag to do it but now it disappeared.
I’m using 24″ display with 1440×900 resolution and 110% DPI and after today developer version update menus and main bar instead of being slightly to small became a way to big!
It really annoying, why are you so stubborn to make something if you don’t know how or cannot predict all possible configurations in which your program will be used?

Let us use default windows scaling mechanism and start working on sync or bookmarks.

Please keep in mind that this a developer version. Some problems are expected. We do these developer versions precisely because we cannot predict all possible configurations of the users. We rely on your feedback to even out the bugs for the configurations we didn’t think about.

Herr Pietrus

Ok, I thought that there are some clear rules how Windows 7/8 handle it and how to combine it with Opera’s own implementation.:)

But it would be nice if you would in future stable versions restore flag for enabling/disabling hdpi support just in case… 🙂

Marcin Mitek

Ahhh, clear rules how Windows handles it, that would be great 😉 Well, I think it’s time to recommend some reading stuff, it’s not as easy as it seems, have a look – http://www.kynosarges.org/WindowsDpi.html

Doing something locally is different from sending user data over the internet to servers around the world …

Nekomajin43

I know that, but are you sure everyone knows that? That feature did not even hit stable but you already got negative articles around the web. I also know those articles are misinformed, but they reach the general public.

So on one side you want to do everything to make sure the user’s data won’t be compromised, but on the other side you don’t do anything to suggest that the user has complete control over his/her data. Where is the logic?

All we ask is a confirm popup…

reesmichael1

I’m not sure what contradiction you see. There’s a pretty marked difference between copying data from one folder to another on a local machine and screwing up data on the local machine and a remote server due to an improperly done sync.

Nekomajin43

At the end of the day, both of them is handling the user’s (personal) data. They are techinally different but the basis is the same.

Cjcr

We really hope that the future Opera Sync implements LOCAL data encryption before reach the opera’s servers … that’s the way to go if you want some success with this feature.

I wonder, why not using google sync, even just for the meantime while your in house solution is not finish?
Comodo is using it, so I guess there’s no legal issues
and whole year without sync (and further more) is ….argghhh

Hi, guys, excellent work – waiting for Opera 24 to go into the Next channel (I’m currently using Opera Next as my second browser on OS X). Is there any chance you would add an option to display tabs vertically? E.g. as a vertical list on wither left of ride side of the browser window? That would make using Opera way more comfortable on widescreen displays that are most common today.

This is such a fervently desired, practical and sensible feature, which would put Opera head and shoulders above the rest in one fell swoop, that I think this should be viewed as something for which there is much more than simply “a chance.”

I visited the Chrome boards the other day, and more than two thirds of the posts on this subject were how the user would IMMEDIATELY switch to Chrome full-time if they would simply bring side tabs back.

Don’t let Chrome steal the march on you! You guys could implement this better than anyone, and I really think it would propel the browser to a new range of user numbers.

Guest

Side tabs could be something that could easily set opera apart from other browsers on the desktop, it would be cool if you guys made an option for that 🙂

theomni

I really like that you’re working on tabs. Personally, I’d prefer the preview to be a much smaller box at the tab (similar to how Opera 12 has it) and then mousing over the preview brings that tab in focus or a larger preview (similar to how Windows Taskbar does it). As always, I’d like more options or customizations.

Still, the number one related tab feature for me, the one that has prevented me from even using Opera Chromium for more than 5 minutes, is a good way to switch tabs. The method in Opera 12 with right click + scroll wheel to cycle through a list of tabs was, for me, the greatest usability feature in a browser since tabs themselves were introduced. I cannot use a browser without that.

Herr Pietrus

It was great but… I must admit, that I’ve hardly ever used it 😀
But.. it was great and I admit that it would be nice if we could use it (or not :P) again.

Stanislav Stratil

Hmm, and I would like it more, if I could use rocker gestures for that…
hold left button, then press right button = cycle tabs to right and vice versa… There should be options for that, cause everyone has his own preferences. 🙂
Now, I must use numbers 1 and 2, you can cycle with them (if you didnt know about that already…)

cgebhard

First a “bug” or maybe it is a feature…?

If you Ctrl-Click a SpeedDial entry, it opens in a background tab.
vs.
If you Ctr-Click a SpeedDial folder it opens all entries, but not in the background. The first tab replaces the speeddial.

It’s not a big deal, just two different behaviours on the same action (Ctrl-Click) which is kind of confusing every time I want to open two or more folders/ “sessions” at once.

ayespy

Do you have any flags set for tab handling? On my win 8.1, ANYTHING you open from Speed Dial replaces the Speed Dial page. There’s no opening anything in background tab.

cgebhard

I have several active flags, but I don’t think it is related to that. I use win 8.1 as well and clicking while holding the Ctrl-key opens speeddial/bookmarksbar entries in the same way as it does open links on pages: in a background tab- thus the confusion when Ctrl-clicking on folders.

ayespy

I see. I missed the ctrl- part of your remark. I don’t use ctrl-click (for ANYTHING), so my eyes breezed right by those five characters. My bad.

BillyG

Here’s a tip: Make it work just like it did on Opera 12. You made it work once before, why re-invent the wheel? And while you’re at it, put tab stacking back…

1) I like the big previews, more than the small ones in opera 12. but I guess this is a matter of taste.

2) The delay is too long. I’d rather have it instantaneously after hovering. – Thus when you combine 1+2 you get a quick way to check another tab’s content (similar to Daniel Aleksandersen’s “pro tip” just with hovering, not keyboard shortcuts)

this leads me to…

3) The problem: Until now I wouldn’t want to miss the 1px line above the tabs cause it allowed me to quickly move the window and snap it to another monitor or the left/right screen half. Now for tab peek I disabled it because it forces me to aim exactly to the tab height and keep the mouse in this corridor while going through the tabs. This makes the whole experience slow and uncomfortable. (You know this game where you move the cursor through a labyrinth and mustn’t touch the walls? Kind of fells like that.)
—> I like tab peek so much, that I’d ditch the 1px line permanently if you gave us some other space to grab and drag the window somewhere, but that is hard to find (screenshot)

4) Pages that are hibernated don’t change in the meantime, or do they? Wouldn’t it be enough to take a last “screenshot” of it just before hibernating and then use this in tab preview? I tried with the internal taskmanager of opera and it appears that tab peek pulls the “previewed” tabs out of hibernation. That’s kind of sad, as it diminishes the overall-saving effect of hibernation.

Thanks for reading

Veger

Yes dragging Opera to another monitor is pain, which you nicely showed with your picture. Having the 1px line above the tab would help a lot IMO.

The 1 pixel can be ‘obtained’ from the bookmark bar, which has quite some empty space between the bookmarks and the address bar. 😀

cgebhard

I’m not sure if I understood your reply correctly:
You mean the bookmarks bar offers space to grab and drag the window? Unfortunately it doesn’t work on my system (Win 8.1)

This 1px line is there by default. You can deactivate it in the “advanced” settings.
I just deactivated it to have a far better experience with tab peek.

Veger

No, I meant that the bookmark bar is ‘too’ large so there is space that can be used to create a 1px space above the tabs to drag the (maximized) Opera Window. You cannot drag Opera by clicking the bookmark bar.

You say that the 1px line is there by default? I guess not for Linux? I don’t have it, and I do not see an (advanced) option to toggle it…

cgebhard

Ah, I didn’t know you’re on linux. This option appears to be on Windows only (maybe Mac) , where the tab bar reaches the top of the screen.

In Unity desktop environment there’s at least a system-bar above all maximized windows where you can still grab the current window and drag it, so the 1px line is not needed there.

But since I don’t know any other environment maybe there’s a need for it as well?

Veger

With KDE, the tabs is also at the top of the screen (similar to Windows?). So the 1px line is also needed.

Hopefully it will be added/enabled, even though KDE is not officially supported 🙂

Lacedaemon

1px line is absolutely needed though now with the visual tabs, since you need a neutral space where your mouse cursor is ready to go to the group of tabs you are interested, but without alerting any tab to show its preview.

cgebhard

Are you talking about moving the cursor to this group through neutral space or in general parking it somewhere while it’s not being moved? In the latter case I normally put it somewhere below the tab bar in the website area.

Alex Parker

Yes, big or small previews is a matter of taste. But let me guess – Opera has already decided for me that I like big previews and small ones are not coming back. Opera knows better, user is stupid. We get the picture.

cgebhard

Well I suppose they might not decide what you like most, but what they think the majority of users will like.

They’ve got it half-working, you may have noticed in recent chrome/opera releases you do now get smooth scrolling when using the middle click auto-scroll, but it doesn’t work yet for mousewheel or touchpad scroll (except for on the OSX version which already has full smooth scrolling).

I have a lots of problems when those flags are enabled
choppy scrolling, checkerboard on half of the page when scrolling …etc
hope they polish them when smooth scrolling comes in picture

sgunhouse

My speed dial extension (I only have one installed) seems to have stopped working again. (I recall we had this issue in 23 as well …)

Dmitry Kirin

Thanks for the peek preview! It’s a great feature, I think, even greater than O12’s tab previews. Showing previews upon Ctrl+Tab and animating them into full when it’s released is posh. Opera has always been into being stylish, and this is a perfect continuation of that trend. 🙂

There is another use case, which Artem has pointed out: when you are reading a tab, keeping the mouse pointer over another tab, to be ready to quickly hide the current one, should anyone appear nearby. I suggest that the peek preview would not show up for the Speed Dial page. There’s nothing interesting to preview it anyway.

Testing Opera on Lubuntu 13.10. It works faster than chrome and now without crashes. However, the form elements are small in height and is used in small font. It only affects sites and extensions that are not specified font size.

Fıonn mac Cuṁaıll

I like the ability to preview a tab’s content when hovering the mouse over it, but I’m not the hugest fan of having the preview effect go off every time I use Ctrl+Tab to move among tabs. It hardly feels like a “preview” in that case anyways, since the tab’s content is already shown under the standard behavior. Would it be possible to allow keeping the former while disabling the latter?

This is not related to the build, but it’s an improvement: when entering “maps.google” into the address field, it shows “maps.google.com” in the dropdown, because it’s a search result from Google. In Chrome selecting it makes the browser go right to the page, but in Opera it opens Google with “maps.google.com” as search query. IMO it should work as in Chrome.

Ralf Brinkmann

Go into the settings, Privacy & Security, Privacy, “Use forecast service for the completion of searches and URLs when typing in the address bar” and try what happens if you switch this off. Here I can select maps.googe.de, because I used this last time.

kapsi

I want to select the Google result as the address, without visiting it first. Selecting from history works fine.

Ralf Brinkmann

That’s what I mean. I type “maps.google.de” and it opens at once. No Google search result before. If I switch the forecast service on I get different results.

Alex Parker

Are you shitting me?! Where is a normal, small, fast tab preview like before? Right under tabs themselves. What is this slow, humongous crap in the middle of my page?!

oCircuit

Don’t use Opera, i think it makes no sense. The new tab preview is awesome, much better then the old. You live in the past, your problem.

Alex Parker

Oh really? Don’t you think if I wanted a full screen page, I would SWITCH TO IT maybe? Do you even understand what a preview is? Imagine if taskbar previews in Windows 7 took your ENTIRE screen away from you. Would you be okay with that too? Coz clearly we don’t have enough of shitty popups on webpages, right? We need MORE POPUPS.

I live in the past. Let’s all live in the future and get popups in our faces every time we hover over tabs. Just dont forget to put an epileptic warning on it, too.

oCircuit

You’re exaggerating (: I’m sure you can turn off it in power user settings in future (;

kingey

Great, none of the features of Opera 12 made it again… Seriously, when the old features come back EXACTLY like they were on Opera 12 (this includes irc) then you’ll have the support of lots of ppl, in the meantime you should update Opera 12 to 12.18 with the same support for extensions that Opera 24 has.

oCircuit

The tab preview is a feature from Opera 12 (;

Rafael Luik

irc

support of lots of ppl

LOL, please tell more good jokes!

kingey

well, i’ll tell you one joke, it starts with someone who makes irony about something that everybody wants and then gets no reply supporting his point of view.

Janghou

All glitter and glamour is nice and I’m glad Linux is supported now, but I would prefer features that increase / bring back usability and productivity.

What on earth is the use of Amazon as a default SEARCH engine. Amazon is a shop/retailer.

Why does the default engine of Wikipedia directs me to the Dutch Wikipedia, while nearly all terms I’m searching for are English. Can’t change it. My locales are english.

I prefer searching in google.com, not google.nl, can’t select that as a default search engine.

Can’t set anything I prefer as a default search-engine. Nicknames still missing.

The search engine fiasco must be a business deal, not a technical issue.
Opera is free, but I have the feeling that users pay a higher price for Blink then for Presto.

oCircuit

You can create with just one click in a search field your own search engines.

Janghou

Yes, but not as default, AFAIK.

and doing a search in more the one engine is nasty, because the Open Page dialog, that remembered `seach terms`, is gone. Opera Presto had a history of `how you opened last pages`, or what you’ve searched in you’re own selected search engines. To me that is more usable than Opera’s Blink way showing a list of endpoints of redirects.

Lacedaemon

It is a known fact that the new Opera needs a lot of tweaking to be working in Presto’s AAA levels, and that they are getting paid for advertising Google. For wikipedia in english and not in your native language (a problem that also broke my nerves) you must edit the file Local State with any text editor and replace your country code with “us” , like

( “location”: {“country”: “us”,”country_from_server”: “us”, )

Janghou

Thx, that helps.
The real Linux way works the best, everything a (text)file. Power to the people!
😉

Guest

I don’t know why you have problems, for me it works very simple in every language – just one click in the search field of the wikipedia site you wish.

oCircuit

every browser get’s money for the search engines (; that’s how it works with free browsers. because everyone needs to buy buns. you also ^^

Rafael Luik

About your last line, I hope you know their choice of using Blink (Chromium) which is open source and available for anyone to grab and use in their software has nothing to do with search engine deals.

Janghou

You mean that if Opera kept using Presto they also would have removed the option for users to set any search engine as default and hardcode `g` for Google, like it is patented.

I always liked Opera because they gave you the option to do very smart seeking without any extra Toolbars in myriad of sites with great easy and flexibility. Especially combined with F2. Yes I regret, that very productive feature is gone, and maybe that makes me sound harsh.

I try different search engines, but I’ve never changed they way I search. I change default and `g` is always mapped to default. I can’t in Blink.

Why, do you think, there is no option to set DuckDuckGo as default in Opera Blink?

Rafael Luik

You can’t set startpage.com as default in Presto 12.15+, but you won’t see me in the net creating conspiracy theories about that.

You’re mistaken, I’ve just installed it as default search engine in 12.16, with every keyword I liked. Works fine.

Rafael Luik

Wrong. Close the browser and open it again, it’ll be reset.

Janghou

Ah, Opera 12 is so stable, never close it during a day. Right, I see it now, it resets to Google. DuckDuckGo works, so I never noticed.

An extension that let users set their own default search engine, like startpage.com or Ixquick. Is that allowed to be published, or would that be considered malicious?

Rafael Luik

There are some extensions that already give the ability to change to DDG, for example Disconnect Search, so based on that I don’t think this kind of extension would be malicious.

Extensions can’t install and enable themselves so there’s no risk, different than third-party programs which can mess with Opera’s search engines profile file being the reason why it’s blocked currently.

PS. DDG works in 12.15-12.17 because it used to be a trusted partner since it was included in English locales.

Janghou

Third-party programs can’t install and enable themselves without user consent. (OK Google can on Android and Microsoft on Windows).
If third-party programs can mess with search.ini they can mess with other files like bookmarks.adr or contacts.adr or accounts.ini or nuke wand.dat. Is that still trusted then?

hspdion

The tab preview function is neat. However (with “Enable advanced keyboard shortcuts” enabled) when I hit 1 or 2 on the keyboard to move through open tabs, I want to move directly to the next/previous tab. I do not like how currently the preview of the tab comes up instead.

Ralf Brinkmann

How do you do that? When I use these two keys the tab changes at once, without preview. I have preview only when I use CTRT-TAB. Tab Cycling is activated in opera:flags. So I can either use 1 and 2 for cycling from left to right and back or cycle in recently used order with CTRL-TAB

reesmichael1

What OS are you on? On Linux, it doesn’t do that for me, but on Mac OS X 10.9.3, it does. I was actually just about to comment about that disparity, asking which one is the intended behavior. (My vote’s in strongly in favor of no peek on single key shortcuts!)

Ralf Brinkmann

Oh, sorry: I use Window 7×64.

reesmichael1

Cool. It sounds like a Mac bug then, which means it should be fixed.

hspdion

Yes I’m on OS X 10.9.3 as well; it appears to be a mac only bug. I just tried out the windows version on a spare laptop and the behavior was different with the tabs directly switching.

It seems I have Bookmarks (json) file, with all my bookmarks from Presto (even nicknames!!), but how do I access them from the GUI?

I can right click on the bar and add folder, but how do I access the rest, is seems the importer is confused by the nesting/organizing in folders.

ayespy

Do you have an importer square on your speed dial, and if so, does it offer you the option of importing your bookmarks to bookmark bar and/or speed dial?

Janghou

Ah, thx, I see now, that works,

Dmitry Kirin

I’m not sure it’s the same in Linux and Windows, but on my computer, bookmarks imported from Presto are under the node Other Bookmarks, while the bookmark bar shows the contents of another node. I can see it using extensions (for example, Chrookmarks) and can move the bookmarks to the BM bar.

Abhilash

Sneak peek is a nice feature. But it slows down switching between tabs, especially when using keyboard only.

Is there way to enable/disable it ?

Also ctrl + pgup/down doesnt cycle tabs

reesmichael1

When I hover over a non-active tab, I get the preview as normal. If I then use the middle click to close that tab, it closes as expected, and the tab immediately to the right moves so that it is under my mouse pointer. However, the preview for the tab that is now under the mouse icon is never shown. Can anyone confirm this, and if so, is this the intended behavior? To me, it seems like the preview would be very nice for closing a large batch of tabs by holding the pointer over one tab, looking at the preview, closing it if necessary, and then looking at the next preview, repeating the process as long as necessary.

Tecnically you didn’t hover on that tab, you hovered on the one you later closed, you need to move the mouse a lil bit so that is taken as being hovered over the remaining tab.

O22 Stable higlights the remaining tab, but that doesn’t mean acting upon it. And Opera 24 can’t decide that you meant to have that tab previewed. I guess that’s also the reason why it doesn’t show so inmediately, when you actually hover over.

reesmichael1

Hmmm…I can certainly see what you’re saying, and it makes sense that Opera would behave that way. However, it seems to me that the “expected” behavior would be to have any tab that is under my pointer be previewed, even if I wasn’t hovering over it initially. In my workflow, it would be similar to closing tabs with ctrl-w. Once I’ve closed one, I expect another tab to become active and respond to the key command. There are some obvious differences between the two scenarios, but I think that was my intuition’s justification for expecting the tab preview to behave that way. Do any of the developers have thoughts on this?

It would be great to have this as default at start. Without Opera unpinning those tabs.

More or less what I had in O12. And what I miss the most, besides status bar and dropdown arrow in the address bar.

Rod Corkin

Agree totally, I’ve mentioned this a few times in these blogs that pinned tabs serve little purpose unless they can remain pinned when the browser is closed and reopened. It appears the developers do not use pinned tabs themselves otherwise they’d realise this immediately.

The titlebar, which is mostly empty, COULD have the current open page TITLE in it (next to the O-button), OR, give an option to put the tabs alongside the O-button (like in fullscreen), that would be super awesome.
I got many tabs i want to see if there’s activity in them, so i run my code editor, games, 3D-software, etc. all in windowed mode, and stretch their top borders all the way up so i can just see the tabs on the browser.
But there’s still so much space wasted above them that is of no use, (atleast put the page title in that empty space so it can notify of changes on the page, for example facebook, which starts blinking the title).

Alexandermp

Oh Sweet!
Moving forward, slowly becoming the greatest browser!
It will really be awesome when it will introduce tab groups, and maybe a more flexible speed dial (more dials on folder preview, custom images without building an extension for it, other minor UI settings).

Anyway, I welcome this feature and wait for it to get to Opera Next.

dflyra

I said it before and I’m going to say it again: Now we are getting somewhere! With this great addition to Opera’s functionality we break some psychological barriers – it seems that Opera is definitely marching forward! Good work and congratulations to the developers!

ingviowarr

1) Tab preview is terrible. Turned off. My wife ask me, to do the same on her nb. Very strange results of participating the survey…

2) Something wrong with media (video) loading during first (start) session. May be Opera codecs not working properly. (New bug)

Shift+Click opens a SD item in a new window. Why can it be not done for SD folders also?

Dmitry Kirin

When a page is loading and the progress circle is spinning in the tab header, the status tooltip is not shown on the bottom when a hyperlink is hovered. It is either not shown at all or blinks for a moment, as if overlayed by the horizontal scrollbar immediately.

nazcorp

What happened to Opera Link? Is it going to ever make a comeback? Coming from an Opera user since version 7, it’s been so painful not being able to use Opera. 🙁

Bjarne Bertelsen

How many years must we wait for synced bookmarks?

Laga Mahesa

I find the preview gets in the way most of the time and is counterproductive. The only circumstance I can think of when I would want it is if I had A LOT of tabs open, which just isn’t the case for me most of the time – I can remember exactly what’s in a given tab.

I suggest an option: Only show preview when X or more tabs are open. 7 or 10 would be a nice default, I feel.

1. I have only 3 rows thumbnails in speed dial and get scroll bar (only with 2 rows there is no scrollbar). this scrollbar is useless because there is enough place for 3 rows thumbnails. issue since opera 15.

2. on dev opera i get some issues with javascript. for example http://www.iloveradio.de cant play music. no issue on normal opera 22.

also needed is a way to hide the opera menu button, where it is now breaks the UI. (windows)

Mohammad Imtianul Haque Dimik

Want mht file support

Leonardo Gomes

It has support for mhtml but you need to enable it on opera:flags.

Mohammad Imtianul Haque Dimik

yeah i know that. But by default would be better.

Dave-H

Bear in mind that unless things have changed (I can’t check at the moment) if you enable it you will ONLY be able to save in mhtml format.

YemSalat

Thanks! The new tab previews are really sweet!

Another suggestion that I posted before but it seems to be lost in the comments now. We need some indication if the page is zoomed or not.
Chrome is doing it by placing an icon in the address bar when the page is zoomed.

Remko

Kind of a strange question to ask for a checkbox label
(see screenshot)

Maybe it should just say “Keep Opera updated” or “Install updates automatically”.

But it is a Dev build, not too important. And the effect is quite evident.

YemSalat

Would be great to have a dropdown in the settings for tab previews, like so:
– No previews
– Small previews (O12 style)
– Large previews (Current ones)

PS I like the new previews, but based on the comments I think this feature would be useful

Emil Huber

Since a few builds I have the problem that pinned tabs keep loading for hours after a browser restart.
They only start loading when I enter the url-bar and hit enter for each tab.

cgebhard

Have you selected delayed loading of background tabs in the settings?
If so you could try the opera://flags/#lazy-session-loading which doesn’t prevent loading, just “postpones” it until the front tab is loaded.

Emil Huber

extended-lazy-session-loading was activated.

I disabled it and retested. The problem was not gone.

I also disabled “Save session for offline restart” but didn’t work also.

Jademarisa

Still the annoying O button and no chance of Classic Menu. Unusable.

Ralf Brinkmann

Unusable User. Can you please give us an enlightenment what you need a “classic menu” or any other menu for? And how often you needed a menu in the last months? Do you want to open and watch web pages or play with the menu?

Vux777

agree…
one of the best things they did in modern browsers is kicking out the menu bar
unnecessary bar /stripe (whole window width) of space that can be packet into dropdown menu (like O button)

I prefer the O menu. But on the linux and mac with’s rounded corner it’s prettier. I don’t know, maybe Opera can do something for you in the konami mode.

martintangsl

Every time it’s just 1 tab. So, if I opened 30 tabs, I might need to analyze 29 screenshots for just 1 tab. When many tabs are opened, I would prefer a compact list showing informative contents.

Denyer

Side tabs…. We still need side tabs…

ko1o7

i love the idea of the tab preview but the preview is way too big and can get annoying when leaving the mouse on another tab by accident. minor problem – vines dont play and when will opera be able to support html5 for youtube?

Laga Mahesa

Kickstarter videos are missing the “exit full screen” icon.

kokolo5

Not just in Opera, also in Firefox, Chrome and every other browser. You must contact Kickstarter (;

Laga Mahesa

Ah. I was too lazy to check the others and assumed it was a bug… what a weird oversight!

Renato Soffiatto

While I liked the idea os the tab preview, it slowed down the tab highlighting painfully.
Because we are only able to close a background tab using the mouse when it is highlighted, be it using the middle-button or the x, it made closing a few non contiguous tabs a pain.
I really think that the highlight animation has to be optimized before I may be able to use it on.

I am using it on an Mid-2010 Mac Mini, 8gb of RAM, OSX Mavericks.

Onaj Tamo

A bug report:On Linux ,when I start a new session the tabs from the previous session load infinitely.

Diogo Neves

I have a HiDPI display and windows scaling to 125, but it didn’t scale opera before this update and now it does! I selected “Disable display scaling on high DPI settings.” in the compatibility tab of both launcher.exe and opera.exe but nothing changes…

Presto is dead, I agree, but that doesn’t mean all those ideas poured into it are dead or useless, and Opera itself knows this, so the goal is to merge most useful old features with new more modern ideas, in a stable, fast, compatible and scalable base.

It will take time, and probably will remain a marginal browser, but in absolute terms it will have a user base big enough to keep it running, there’s Opera for long.

Stanislav Stratil

Tab stacking?
But we already have tab stacking in Presto!
Sorry, I just laughed at it, cause most of the coming features are already in presto (at least i think). 🙂 I indeed hope that there will be tab stacking.
But… where is the benefit, running it in one process?

Kwer

I find tab preview awfully intrusive. I have to be careful where I rest my mouse pointer, or the preview will obscure page I’m reading.

Tab switching is quick, so I never need a preview. I can just switch to a tab if I want to see it.

But I want to be able to keep mouse pointer anywhere on the screen without making my browser hard to use.

If you could add a tab *overview* that shows thumbnails of all tabs at once, that would be useful – if I wanted to find page I remember by how it looks rather than by its title.

But searching one by one via previews is just as useless as searching via tab switching.

So for me the preview has only negative sides 🙁

SonicFreak94

Every so often on YouTube with Flash, I’m getting grahics driver crashes. Typically when in a video playlist and it auto-plays the next video. My specs are as follows:
Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
AMD FX 6300 CPU
AMD R7 265 GPU on driver version 14.4.
(the rest of the specs are likely irrelevant, so I’ll save you the time)

I’m not sure if it’s Flash or not, but I recently switched from Stable back to Developer, and this only started happening after that, so there you have it.

hafasd

There is some problem in rendering certain fonts. Below the screenshot from this blog.

when you hover that tab,it will see some rectangle character instead of the real character….

Also when will got a advance font setting extension like chrome?

Please look at the attachment

the rectangle character should be 實驗,but it show like this

Also I want to report one more problem
When turn on the DirectWrite experiments
when you click on the extension icon ,their option menu has got many blank page

Leonardo Gomes

Do you have HarfBuzz (opera://flags/#enable-harfbuzz-rendertext) enabled? I only see that tab preview issue with it enabled.

aaa839

Yes I have turn on Harfbuzz…

Leonardo Gomes

So try disabling it to solve the problem.

Denis Wong

Tab preview looks great, but just wanted to point out that the animation is a bit choppy on Mac when ‘expanding’ a preview. It’s smooth on Windows though.

Dakota Blake

I will never understand why you guys decided to strip out a *base feature* in Chrome/Chromium that was added 4 years ago (it’s *actual* theme engine) and replace it with so-called “themes” which are *just* an image background on the new tab page and that’s it. I hate the grey theme of Chrome/Chromium/Opera, but at least *I can change it* on those first two browsers! Seriously, bring back Chrome/Chromium’s theme support. Or, even better, make it supersede Chrome/Chromium’s own theme support (replacable caption/toolbar buttons, etc). You may as well remove the option to sync with the Gtk theme on Linux as well, since that is an actual theme too.

That being said, we don’t need (though it’d be nice to have) the full engine from older Opera versions, just the base Chrome/Chromium theming engine would suffice at this point.

ouzowtf

Is it just me (on two different PCs, Win7 and Win8.1) that I can not use the window buttons (minimize, maximize, close) with this build? It does not work if the window is maximized or not. I have no idea what can cause this behavior.

IllusionMH

Can’t confirm.
Win 8.1

Vux777

also can’t confirm…works fine on my win7 x64

ouzowtf

Now it works on Win8.1, without any update or something like that.
I can check this evening if it magically works on Win7 again, too.
Still dont know what causes this :/

GeX TheGreat

I want to do middle click on place were the arrow is and get new tab opened. Is it possible to do it in this release?

Not really. I got used to it (like a lot of old Opera users) and its just a really quick, smooth and comfortable way of closing a tab (or several) without moving the hand or the fingers.

Also, this would be a great feature for laptop and touchscreen users.

Utkarsh

A brilliant suggestion!!!

Oskar

Hi! Thanks for a good job, the browser seems quicker for each iteration! Just want to share my problems with this latest build!

It seems that Opera won’t let any other program or window be over it! Every time I want to use Spotify or the calculator or something else I need to minimize Opera developer. This hasn’t been the case before. REALLY annoying.

Also this comment page was broken when I loaded it the first time. Got better after the reload.

Also the synchronization function isn’t staying logged in all the time (has been like this since it first came to Opera 15+).

Also, pictures in tabs loaded in the background sometimes get really pixelated. Annyoing!

hundred.or.zero

Working just fine under ubuntu 14.04. But please bring back bookmarks.

Utkarsh

A brilliant attempt by Opera team and I also think that size of the preview screen is okay since it lets you read the content also.I wonder if Opera would be able to bring back master password in upcoming version of Opera.

Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

Who want a Master password function and better security for passwords? Not newbie users of Opera.

Utkarsh

Well I would be needing that because I want my stored passwords secure. Do you think they would work on this one?

Lacedaemon

If I were a mod, I would pin this one as “Featured comment”. Well said.

Utkarsh

Why do you think that master password is not a necessary feature?

Lacedaemon

Who said that?

Utkarsh

Hello Lacedaemon

I think I misunderstood what you said but you agreed with Piotr Karol…’s comment so I thought that you didn’t agree with my statement.

Lacedaemon

Hello, both me and Piotr want the master password, practically Piotr made a rhetorical question with a great ironic touch for the lack of that important feature.

Utkarsh

Oh! Dear… I misunderstood all of it. I am Sorry!

By the way do you think that with Chromium based Opera is it possible to integrate the feature we are talking about?

Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

I don’t know, that Opera Dev. Team will read that, but on the right side of this blog site there are stable, next and developer Opera builds, but only for Windows and Mac. Will you add in the future a download link to download Linux version of Opera? Just asking 😛

“extensions conflict” popup but have no extensions installed. had it a few moments ago but removed it and did a clean re-install.

Ralf Brinkmann

I can open the page and it asks me for a nickname. No crash so far. I have 13 extensions installed. W7x64.

zeke

13 extensions?! lucky luke. 🙂 Ralf, i entered the page, inserted a nickname, made a comment, a comment was made (by another fella) and then opdev crashed immediately. reloaded page, crashed again, and again. popup: extensions bla bla…(did not have extensions installed at all). do not have a clue. just reporting the issue.

I wish Opera would add an adblocker to the browser.

Ralf Brinkmann

Adblock is a very good Adblocker. The other thing: I can’t try it out. If I enter a nickname and start, I receive a message, that the connection to the network was interrupted. Tried it out with Opera, Google Chrome and Firefox. But no crash of the page.

Edit: Maybe my nickname was wrong. This time I could connect, with or without extensions enabled. I did not write anything, but I reloaded the page. No crash.

zeke

Sherlock is on his way. U r on a windows OS. im using a very old mac. maybe thats it. cant explain it better. i am not an expert on these things. just reporting what happened to me.

nothing against adblocker at all. used it in the past. to each his own.

Ralf Brinkmann

I think, the system you are using is a good and important information for the team. I think you are not alone.

zeke

my cat says hello. 🙂

Vux777

another reason could be one of the flags (experimental JS and web platform features)

zeke

thanks Vux777.

Vux777

yw zeke
did it help?
because I had crashes here every time Disqus comments were loading. it turned out that combination of those flags and Opera Turbo was the reason

zeke

to be honest, i havent changed a thing yet, in part because it has not crashed since. but i will follow your advice and try it out.
thanx
zeke

Vux777

oh no, don’t..
I meant, IF you played with flags, they might be a culprit…
but if you didn’t, forget it 🙂

zeke

worry not, Squire. LOL 🙂

I can always reset to default on da little butttoon on the right. dropped opdev 24 anyway. keeps on crashing. sticking to opstable + next. ill leave for the pros to test it.
cheers,
zeke

Opera 22 is the current stable (Opera Next 23 is a beta (testing)) (Opera 24 Developer is an alpha less stable, both Next and Developer are know to have bugs and are for testing (not every day use (you can try but there is higher risk of crashes and other bugs)

You might try updating Flash Player, might be causing some of the crashes

Laga Mahesa

I’m having printing issues with this build. No message from Opera, but there’s a permanent “spooling” status for the printer. No problems with Stable.

EDIT: Closing the page/tab being printed clears the spooling message from the queue.

Guest

I got this error when downloading large files on the Mega. Someone confirm? Windows and Linux.

Robson

I got this error when downloading large files on the Mega. Someone confirm? Windows and Linux.

Well, it can happen, as Mega downloads files using Chrome file system API, storing content onto the system volume, in %AppData%Opera SoftwareOpera DeveloperFile System, or /Users/USERNAME/Library/Application Support/Google/Chrome/Default/File System for Mac. You can delete any old content from Opera Settngs, the tab Security, button All cookies and site data — search for mega.co.nz and expand the File System entry.

Silviu

Would it be possible to turn off the High DPI ?
This might be a good feature for touchscreen devices, but for us working class it’s not very helpful, quite hideous actually.

Dave-H

It needs to be possible to switch it off if it’s causing problems, which it is for me.

escruting

Wasnt a “big” update to Opera Developer also coming this week?

Utkarsh

There is a bug that I noticed. If you are typing something in the address bar(e.g. opera for windows) and meanwhile you open a new tab or switch to another tab then “opera for windows” will also appear in that tab too!!!

Leonardo Gomes

It’s happening here too.

Utkarsh

Thanks for responding back! By the way do the developers read all of our discussions or should I separately send the bug using the bug wizard?

Leonardo Gomes

They read but it’s better to fill a bug report.

Gannet

Hey, how about Opera h.264/gstreamer support ? Chromium supported. Why Opera is not ?

Leonardo Gomes

Because Opera is not Chrome?
Btw, the changelogs and the “Proprietary media types” flag shows that they are working on implementing support for h264.

Gannet

>Because Opera is not Chrome?
Really ? о_О That is an answer ? Nope. Opera just lagging behind while all modern browser also on the same engine supporting it. There is Chromium code using chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra. So It’s not a problem. It seems the problem is in moronic system of priorities of Opera ASA.
I don’t know why to use Opera when there is Firefox, Chromium or even Chrome. Opera died when Opera 12 was died. R.I.P.

Leonardo Gomes

Opera doesn’t have the re$ources of Google to pay for proprietary codecs.

Now it seems that h264 is being licensed for free so Opera and other browsers can support it. Also h264 is in process of being replaced on a near future.

Rafael Luik

h264 is in process of being replaced on a near future

What are you talking about?

I’m not a supporter of H.264 or anything, but it became a de facto standard because of web devs…

Leonardo Gomes

H265 (or HEVC) is already there being developed and tested.
It will allow even smaller files with same quality.

Lacedaemon

“Delay loading of background tabs” aka lazy session is working when you tick “continue where I left off” but not when “Open a specific page or set of pages”… :confused: and :irritated:

Confused with the different behavior of Shift+Click and Ctrl+Click on SD items and folders.

Confused with Middle-Click working on SD thumbnails but not on SD Folders…
Also, why can’t I just double click the folder to open all items?

All shortcuts are “Ctrl+something” but Settings is “Alt+P”…

Disclaimer: Please stop confusing me more and more over time. Be more consistent. Thanks.

twofingertony

Are you making a desktop browser here or like everyone else compromising the desktop for touch crap.
Bring back things like clicking on tab takes you to the previously opened tab.

Bug detected:
Pressing the right-click-key on my keyboard opens the right-click-menu at the top-left-corner and not at mouse-position as it should.

Ralf Brinkmann

Confirmed. W7x64.

Utkarsh

Here on Windows 8 the right-click-key menu appears at the top-left corner be it Chrome or IE or Opera. It appears on top-left in MS Word and Adobe pdf too!

Onaj Tamo

Question:I still have some saved bookmarks or something from opera 12,how do I import them now into this one?I did not use any advanced bookmark features before,so I do not think it will be any problem.

ayespy

If 12 was your default browser, 24 was supposed to have imported bookmarks, passwords, etc. silently when you downloaded it. This may fail if you have already had a developer version into which you did NOT import 12 data earlier, or which screwed up and failed to detect your 12 install earlier. There is a command switch you can set to make it start over and do the import, but I don’t know how to set it.

You MAY have the data imported to 24 already, and just didn’t see it. You will find it on speed dial in the “bookmark importer” dial.

When all else fails, install and use xmarks extension in both browsers, starting with 12 (get it from the Chrome store for Opera 24)

Onaj Tamo

You see I am a Linux user,and I uninstalled Opera 12 several months ago(and there are probably no traces of it left since I reinstalled my system once).How do I import them manually.

Vux777

probably the simplest way is that you import them first in Chrome (if you have it) and then copy bookmarks file from profile folder to Opera profile folder. I’m not familiar with Linux file system, that’s how it is on Win (they are recognized reciprocally)

ayespy

The xmaks solution will still work – even if they are on different machines. After you have uploaded to xmarks from 12 and downloaded from xmarks to 24, you can even uninstall the xmarks extension from both, if you like.

I keep the XMarks extension, because it allows me to sync bookmarks between computers and between different browsers

taneli

Vimeo videos are broken again. (Embedded videos work but they won’t work on vimeo.com site.)
For example: http://vimeo.com/63490371

The problem where you can’t bring the Opera browser in front of other windows is also still here (for example, have Opera open, open another windows (be it a folder, IRC client, what ever), and you can’t bring opera to the front anymore).

Browser still becomes unresponsive while having high CPU usage AND having hardware acceleration on, this doesn’t happen in O21 and previous.

Ralf Brinkmann

Runs perfect here. W7x64.

taneli

The video?
Won’t work here, same as last build.
“This video can’t be played with your current setup.”
Win8.1×64.

taneli

Actually, it works when HW acceleration is on… but i cannot use HW acceleration ’cause that makes the whole browser unusable while i work.

noel

Aw! No love for 32bit linux?

Daniel Kit

Meh.
When will you add back the option for Vertical Tabs?
That is by far the most useful feature missing since Opera 15

Vux777

is there going to be new dev before summer holidays?

Piotr Karol Marek Żółtowski

Lul, in Poland there’s already summer holidays. Just saying 😛

Vux777

not School holidays 😛
devs will probably take a break couple of weeks, maybe a month
(with no new builds).

I prefer visual tabs like it worked in Presto. That was the biggest and most useful feature in Opera. You could organize tabs on the side, top or down and have them all as mini thumbnails right there on the screen. That was better than having to hover over each tab.

Daniel Kit

Please please please add Vertical Tabs!
It was the reason I switched to Opera in the first place back in 2002…
Now the only browser that supports it is Firefox 🙁

kb

Can I disable this feature in some way?

twofingertony

Absolutely pointless and often confusing feature.
Unneeded if the old features of click tab to minimize and cycle tabs in recently used order are implemented.

Harry

Bring back vertical side tabs

Des

Please tell me how I can switch the tab preview off. I can’t watch any videos because the videos freeze whenever I accidentally hover over another tab. (I don’t want to preview tabs even without this bug, I don’t need to preview them since I can just click them to VIEW them with the same amount of effort.)

Dominic Fairfax

How do we turn it off ? i have a few flash games running in different tabs and the preview kills then

Dominic Fairfax

Do we just need to install a previous version ?

Zee a Lot

how do I disable it?

Dave-H

In Opera flags.
opera://flags/#tab-preview

Elvedin Hamzagic

They bring every stupid enhancement, except those features which people really miss from opera 12.

old opera fan wants back

I’d rather have a drop-down tab menu (like it was possible in Presto), or even simply switching tabs by wheeling over the tab-bar (without control+wheel, just wheel, as it is in chrome and some other browsers, but perhaps that’s mostly a linux-thing)

old opera fan wants back

For anyone interested, if there’s such a person, there’s a chrome extension compatible with Opera that has one of the features I’ve mentioned, the tab submenu within the context/right-click menu. It actually has a bunch of other sub-menus, like extensions, bookmarks, and searches, but they can be toggled off. Now I’d like to remove the tab bar both in Chrome and Opera…

I was forgetting to mention the extension’s name, it’s just “Tabs Menu”, from whatever-will-be-que-sera-sera.tumblr.com — I’m not sure it’s 100% safe, do your own background check on this/anything, specially on windows.

Tom Andreas

Ok when I have touched my tab and dragged it out of the window. How do I put it back in place?

Vux777

drag it back in the same way

Tom Andreas

when I have release it outside the window, and the thab has become a window itself. how do i put the tab back in the window?