Thals and the Medical System

It seems apparent one of the worst things a thal can do is get caught up in the medical system, especially since Rockefeller and his ilk succeeded in killing holistic medicine and naturopathy for the sake of profit.

Since then you can pretty much guarantee your health by doing the opposite of what any medical practitioner or nutritionist instructs. Cholesterol is good for you, wheat and sugar are bad, eating fat is protective against heart disease, etc.

Thals have different nutritional needs and are genetically more sensitive to adverse reactions from medications. This is speculative, but I’m thinking there is likely considerable overlap between the 30% of people with the MTHFR mutation and those with a higher incidence of thalishness than the general population. MTHFR is an SNP involved in the metabolism of B vitamins, and MTHFR polymorphisms have been linked to all sorts of health problems. Theoretically I think it’s possible that back in the hunter gatherer days, if that mutation occurred naturally and not later on as the result of some dysgenic mismatch of hybridized parts, it developed as a positive evolutionary expression of the lifestyle and diet. I have no source for this and it could be wrong, but I suspect meat is a source of B vitamins that’s easily metabolized in those lacking the ability to methylate fully. The MTHFR SNP is also associated with autism, and I know autism is something that’s been linked to thals by mainstream science. A lot of medications (proton pump inhibitors, birth control, etc) further block the absorption of B12, and taking those can spell complete disaster for MTHFR mutants over a long enough period of time.

Another SNP of note is the CYP class, which has to do with the metabolization of medication in general. Awareness of this is just starting to seep into public consciousness, though it’s still being treated as pseudoscience by academia because it’s true. CYP enzymes metabolize all meds from steroids to antidepressants, and an unknowable percentage of the population has polymorphisms in one or more of these that results in altered metabolization, which increases the likelihood of adverse reactions, or less euphemistically, increases the ways in which the med will inevitably fuck a person up. I suspect there’s an overlap with this population and thals as well. I came across a study a while ago that postulated people with the connective tissue disorder Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome tend to have at least one of these SNPs. People with EDS have notoriously strange reactions to medications, and this is (one of many disorders) that has a higher incidence of occurrence in people of Ashkenazi ancestry. Also, these people tend to have some interesting facial features generally speaking. Maxillary prognathism, receding chin, a tendency to be unusually tall, you get the gist.

Not to sound alarmist or paranoid, but I think the ways in which modern medicine messes up thals is intentional. I mean, it messes up everyone, but seemingly some more than others. I’m not saying an intentional “genocide” is being carried out by every pediatrician or ophthalmologist. I’m more pointing fingers at the people higher up on the food chain. The doctors are half hapless idiots acting on their programming, half sociopaths looking to get off on the power differential.

It’s definitely a system predicated on the type of stifling oppressive perniciousness that permeates a lot of other aspects of society. Just because some idiot goes to school to learn nothing of use about the complexities of the body and is instead taught to divide it into separate parts, as if any organ system functions independently of the rest, doesn’t mean that they then have some sort of omnipotent ability to know better than you do what is wrong or right with your body and what you need to do about it. They simply are not equipped with accurate or complete information in medical school, and most of them also lack a sort of instinctual holistic understanding - almost a spiritual sixth sense that would allow them to understand that medicine is an art at least as much as it is a science.

One of the cruelest tricks in modern history was replacing healers with automatons and sociopaths, drugging our shamans into drooling shells of their former selves, and convincing the world that putting six year olds on psych meds is necessary and beneficial. Sadly, it seems most people didn’t need much convincing.

It is not only the medical system, it is agriculture, grains, modern diet, affect neanderthals more than others, the worst thing a thal can do is grow in the western junk diet, and take antibiotics.

Thals are poorly adapted to civilized food, I have had food intolerances for years, and also have relatives who are genetically close and have the same problems. Koanic says something about this on the old blog as well.

I completely agree on doctors being automatons and sociopaths, I've already stressed out about them and their uselessness, but there are very rare exceptions, for example Dr. Natasha Campbell McBride treats patients with carnivorous diets and restore intestinal flora, has a great wisdom about health and works with healing, not drugs.

So modern medicine proves itself unable to cope with most chronic and degenerative health problems, being mostly of no use and toxic.

They need to hide true science in health and medicine, for the following reason, true science when analyzing health proves that nature is superior, the more primitive man is, the more superior he is ( ad infinitum ), civilization is inferior, end, primitivism, return to an ancestral diet ( raw high quality animal products included ) and lifestyle is the only thing that works for health, the rest is satanism.

She has done extensive research on aging, cancer, and nutrition. She did her graduate research at St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital where she investigated the link between mitochondrial metabolism, apoptosis, and cancer.

She investigated the effects of micronutrient (vitamins and minerals) inadequacies on metabolism, inflammation, DNA damage, and aging and whether supplementation can reverse the damage. In addition, she also investigated the role of vitamin D in brain function, behavior, and other physiological functions and has published papers in FASEB on how vitamin D regulates serotonin synthesis and how this relates to autism and other neuropsychiatric disorders.

She frequently engages the public on topics including the role micronutrient deficiencies play in diseases of aging, the role of genetics in determining the effects of nutrients on a person's health status, benefits of exposing the body to hormetic stressors, such as through exercise, fasting, sauna use or heat stress, or various forms of cold exposure, and the importance of mindfulness, stress reduction, and sleep. It is Dr. Patrick’s goal to challenge the status quo and encourage the wider public to think about health and longevity using a proactive, preventative approach.

I did a cursory search of some top cancer doctors for comparison. This one is a cardiologist.

Small nose bridge resulting in close together eyes, a prominent chin, evil vibe.

Colon and rectal cancer:

Again, squat face, small eyes, flanges, and a conspicuous lack of the type of altruism and openness you’d want in the face of a healer.

And lastly, this cro magnon melon-looking? dude, who alarmingly specializes in ovarian cancer and looks like a salami.

I'm not too good at phrenology, I'm very new to it, so if anyone has feedback on their faces that would be cool.

I think cro magnons and sapiens like to be able to rest their heads on the ideological pillow of trust in authority. The fact that medicine rewards the most adept social climbers and is technically just an exercise in egoism doesn’t bother them too much, since control over the social strata and a natural orientation toward status seem like the most venerable, useful, and impressive qualities.

Personally, if I were dying from cancer, I’d much rather be treated by someone who doesn’t look like hastening my death would not be outside the realm of what they’d consider morally acceptable behaviour. I don’t think that’s a lot to ask.

Doctors have a monopoly on what is “true” and the power to literally dictate reality to millions of people. The moment you are not allowed to question something and are mocked for doing so is the moment you know it’s not true. For sapiens and cro magnons however, not being able to question actually works to further convince them of the validity of the subject at hand. Otherwise, it’s scary. They’d have to fully accept responsibility for themselves, their decisions, and their life trajectory, dealing with crises as they came up, gathering knowledge and experience, and transcending the idea of safety to reach a more honest plane of reality. I don’t mean to paint large swathes of people with one negative brush, by the way, and I do believe overall that all and any type of person is capable of this type of transcendence. Some people just cannot do it unless they have the backing of the rest of society, which kind of ironically defeats the purpose.

They need to hide true science in health and medicine, for the following reason, true science when analyzing health proves that nature is superior, the more primitive man is, the more superior he is ( ad infinitum ), civilization is inferior, end, primitivism, return to an ancestral diet ( raw high quality animal products included ) and lifestyle is the only thing that works for health, the rest is satanism.

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I agree that nature is generally superior when it comes to health. You will never find a supplement as good as a food, and you will never find a medication as good as a supplement. Currently, doctors kill more people than they save with brutal methods that suggest we’re still living in a dark age. The less interference from that, the better off we’d all be.

I do take issue with your classification of civilization in general. I don’t think its inferiority can be held as a tenet, though I’m unsure how much of this comes down to a semantic squabble rather than an actual ideological difference.

I like communicating via written word. I think social hierarchies that centralize laws and have the means to enforce them are a good idea when applied appropriately. Same with institutions of higher learning, the type from which, in an ideal world, culture, art, and scientific invention would spring. Not all modern medical interventions are bad. If someone breaks their leg in three places, I’m glad they can get surgery. If they rupture a vital organ from blunt force trauma, I think it’s good they can be put on life support. We don’t need to get rid of any of that. We just need to marry a healthier, more natural society with the backbone of civilization as a structure. I think it was Bice who said in your civilization thread that society is female and civilization is male. I don’t know that I necessarily agree with that, but it works as an analogy for what I’m trying to express here. You never want to view a yin yang as something comprised of mutually exclusive parts - it just leads to mutilation. The male and female archetypes are inevitably intertwined, on both an individual and collective level, just as the concepts of primitive and civilized are.

One of the factors leading to the degree of corruption we have currently in both our society and civilization is that different types or “species” of people have been forced together unnaturally. Obviously this results in a type of societal organization that can’t possibly work for everyone: some people inevitably take advantage of others, etc. This is the problem with diversity in a political sense as well, and anything outside of ethno-nationalism will have to contend with it. I’m not sure, however, that going back to the type of hunter gathering neanderthals had would work, even for those who currently have the most thal DNA. Everyone alive on the planet, without exception, is more cro magnon and sapien than anything else. It’s just a matter of degree. I do think a more segregated, less diverse society would be a step in the right direction though. Otherwise, we’ll have to just pray for another flood and then a repeat of whatever your favorite origin story happens to be. I’m partial to the one with the aliens and Atlantis.

I think cro magnons and sapiens like to be able to rest their heads on the ideological pillow of trust in authority. The fact that medicine rewards the most adept social climbers and is technically just an exercise in egoism doesn’t bother them too much, since control over the social strata and a natural orientation toward status seem like the most venerable, useful, and impressive qualities.

Personally, if I were dying from cancer, I’d much rather be treated by someone who doesn’t look like hastening my death would not be outside the realm of what they’d consider morally acceptable behaviour. I don’t think that’s a lot to ask.

Doctors have a monopoly on what is “true” and the power to literally dictate reality to millions of people. The moment you are not allowed to question something and are mocked for doing so is the moment you know it’s not true. For sapiens and cro magnons however, not being able to question actually works to further convince them of the validity of the subject at hand. Otherwise, it’s scary. They’d have to fully accept responsibility for themselves, their decisions, and their life trajectory, dealing with crises as they came up, gathering knowledge and experience, and transcending the idea of safety to reach a more honest plane of reality. I don’t mean to paint large swathes of people with one negative brush, by the way, and I do believe overall that all and any type of person is capable of this type of transcendence. Some people just cannot do it unless they have the backing of the rest of society, which kind of ironically defeats the purpose.

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Very well said about cro magnons and sapiens features, they not only like to be able to rest their heads on the ideological pillow of trust in authority, is the only thing they can do or go nuts.

I think social hierarchies that centralize laws and have the means to enforce them are a good idea when applied appropriately. Same with institutions of higher learning, the type from which, in an ideal world, culture, art, and scientific invention would spring. Not all modern medical interventions are bad. If someone breaks their leg in three places, I’m glad they can get surgery. If they rupture a vital organ from blunt force trauma, I think it’s good they can be put on life support. We don’t need to get rid of any of that. We just need to marry a healthier, more natural society with the backbone of civilization as a structure. I think it was Bice who said in your civilization thread that society is female and civilization is male. I don’t know that I necessarily agree with that, but it works as an analogy for what I’m trying to express here. You never want to view a yin yang as something comprised of mutually exclusive parts - it just leads to mutilation. The male and female archetypes are inevitably intertwined, on both an individual and collective level, just as the concepts of primitive and civilized are.

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Example, when you put your meat on fire, you have to stop, before it gets burnt black, what are you doing with the flesh, destroying it, losing nutrients and creating various toxic substances too, civilization is the same thing , as a human being, when you go out of nature (Raw paleolithic primitive technology tribal), you become the flesh, you start to burn in the fire, you can be at different stages, Blue Rare, Rare, Medium Rare, Medium, Medium Well and Well Done, but either way you will get burned, injured, then not in your best state, the example may not be the best, but you can understand.

Not all modern medical interventions are bad. If someone breaks their leg in three places, I’m glad they can get surgery.

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"Not all modern medical interventions are bad. If someone breaks their leg in three places, I’m glad they can get surgery." ( You're correct, im talking about chronic and degenerative conditions, most diseases ).

Yeah, instrumental to my current improved status was a super Thal ingenopathic US female doctor who quit her medical industrial complex practice to switch into holistic medicine for greater freedom. After an exploratory battery of tests she found the out of range biomarker, and eventually prescribed two off-label medications that changed my life. By contrast, the approach of the conventional high status doctors was to decide that I should "just eat a hamburger" and suggest psychological intervention on the assumption that I was psychosomatic and self-harming through unwarranted dietary restriction.

Read the face, observe the character, proceed accordingly. However, nice Thals can still be wrong. She's into a lot of woo. There is no substitute for intelligence, and even intelligence is no substitute for being correct. If you go independent, you had better know what you're doing. Otherwise you can easily underperform the mainstream medical establishment.

I suspect there is something to the OP's speculations regarding MTHFR etc.

Out of curiosity, what medications did she prescribe and what bio marker was off? I'm dealing with something that may be slightly similar. It's been a year and a half of restriction. Almost every food is intolerable.

Otherwise you can easily underperform the mainstream medical establishment.

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I'm not so sure of that. Perhaps in some ways it could be viewed as true, but you are far less likely to be harmed or killed by a stupid naturopath than an average intelligence allopath.

"The Institute of Medicine reported in January of 2000 that from 44,000 to 98,000 deaths occur annually from medical errors.1 Of this total, an estimated 7,000 deaths occur due to ADRs. To put this in perspective, consider that 6,000 Americans die each year from workplace injuries.

"However, other studies conducted on hospitalized patient populations have placed much higher estimates on the overall incidence of serious ADRs. These studies estimate that 6.7% of hospitalized patients have a serious adverse drug reaction with a fatality rate of 0.32%.2 If these estimates are correct, then there are more than 2,216,000 serious ADRs in hospitalized patients, causing over 106,000 deaths annually. If true, then ADRs are the 4th leading cause of death—ahead of pulmonary disease, diabetes, AIDS, pneumonia, accidents, and automobile deaths.

"These statistics do not include the number of ADRs that occur in ambulatory settings. Also, it is estimated that over 350,000 ADRs occur in U.S. nursing homes each year.3 The exact number of ADRs is not certain and is limited by methodological considerations. However, whatever the true number is, ADRs represent a significant public health problem that is, for the most part, preventable."

Yeah, instrumental to my current improved status was a super Thal ingenopathic US female doctor who quit her medical industrial complex practice to switch into holistic medicine for greater freedom. After an exploratory battery of tests she found the out of range biomarker, and eventually prescribed two off-label medications that changed my life. By contrast, the approach of the conventional high status doctors was to decide that I should "just eat a hamburger" and suggest psychological intervention on the assumption that I was psychosomatic and self-harming through unwarranted dietary restriction.

Read the face, observe the character, proceed accordingly. However, nice Thals can still be wrong. She's into a lot of woo. There is no substitute for intelligence, and even intelligence is no substitute for being correct. If you go independent, you had better know what you're doing. Otherwise you can easily underperform the mainstream medical establishment.

I suspect there is something to the OP's speculations regarding MTHFR etc.

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This is the 200 IQ version of simply saying; low price chinese cigarettes(100% dried leaves from any fucking tree I presume because china) and shrimp (or was it prawn). Sea food is always good.

I heard a "joke" once told to me by a very thalish girl who was once approached and happily told by one of the local crazy people in Sketchytown that the man was "reinventing himself on all cheese diet". A normie would not have conveyed this message in a sense that it somehow felt important, which why I pointed that out.

I read that the con don legalized CBD oil which is good for you americans. On a side note, I can unironically confirm that if you post "medical advice", they will come for your ass so fast you wouldn't believe. Post beheadings, say vaccines cause autism, blame the jew just never ever say "take 2 of those". I actually don't know why that is but it be.

Another 100% true factual statement is that they will stop selling mercury if they instead can sell pinecone preservatives at twice the price. Not everything is a conspiracy, itz just sapes.

This is why racism is legit, if you want to kill a nigger just be "nice" to him and say "we are all people" and give him a dosage for a toddler of the weakest painkiller of your people. Now you have a 100% legal killerpain. As they say in America; It just works.

Good thread - a thought could be that injecting things straight into the blood for thaloids will avoid the stomach acids devouring anything before it takes effect.
Just snort your morning oatmeal like the professionals do.