Tomorrow sees the final chapter in this year’s midterms with the runoff for the Senatorial place in Mississippi. Today the president is attending two mass rallies in different parts of the state in the hope of shoring up his core vote ahead of the election.

I wonder if the voters will start to murmur murderously though, I think a lots of the voters are just assuming that somebody will work something out.

Yes, murderously is perhaps the wrong word - but I think as things do not just work out the public agitation will only increase, MPs know that and that's one reason why so many have already started down a path that leads increasingly to some kind of further democratic cover for MPs (with a sizable chunk from those who assume the public would back what they want for good measure)

I wonder if the voters will start to murmur murderously though, I think a lot of them are just assuming that somebody will work something out.

We had a gathering of our extended family this weekend (most of my lot now live in the North Yorks National Park, so provincial working/lower middle class). I think 'just get on with it and stop making so much noise' was the consensus from my resolutely politically indifferent clan, remainers and leavers alike. Murderousness was singularly absent, though I think *expecting* rather than *assuming* is le mot juste.

The GOP should still win in Mississippi even with Trump's approval rating that low, indeed the latest Mississippi poll has GOP candidate Cindy Hyde-Smith on 51% to 46% for Democrat Mike Espy, though it may be closer than usual in the state

The GOP should still win in Mississippi even with Trump's approval rating that low, indeed the latest Mississippi poll has GOP candidate Cindy Hyde-Smith on 51% to 46% for Democrat Mike Espy, though it may be closer than usual in the state

This deal is going nowhere. The Cabinet have got to pull the plug on Mrs May before it gets to 11th December.

Why? Seriously, why should the Commons not vote on this deal? It is clearly going to fall, and then something else can be tried, but we will never know for certain who would be for and against when it got down to a vote. We the public deserve that, it would be courteous to the EU (who we are likely to beg for an extension or renegotiation), and it puts every MP on record, which will be useful for all parties and factions to see where everyone stands. How many might claim they would/would not have voted for it, if only they had been given the chance, particularly those keeping quiet?

May's time is up, and the deal is dead, so why is there any great need to not hold the vote? A new deal or option is not going to emerge before the vote, so holding it does not delay matters any.

This deal is going nowhere. The Cabinet have got to pull the plug on Mrs May before it gets to 11th December.

The Cabinet cannot pull the plug TMay under Tory party rules. In any case she has delivered what most voters were expecting from Brexit. She had performed heroically against the elderly, white almost totally male nutters.

This deal is going nowhere. The Cabinet have got to pull the plug on Mrs May before it gets to 11th December.

Why? Seriously, why should the Commons not vote on this deal? It is clearly going to fall, and then something else can be tried, but we will never know for certain who would be for and against when it got down to a cote. We the public deserve that, it would be courteous to the EU (who we are likely to beg for an extension or renegotiation), and it puts every MP on record.

I do not understand why anyone even thinks it should be stopped from the HOC.

The GOP should still win in Mississippi even with Trump's approval rating that low, indeed the latest Mississippi poll has GOP candidate Cindy Hyde-Smith on 51% to 46% for Democrat Mike Espy, though it may be closer than usual in the state

This deal is going nowhere. The Cabinet have got to pull the plug on Mrs May before it gets to 11th December.

The Cabinet cannot pull the plug TMay under Tory party rules. In any case she has delivered what most voters were expecting from Brexit. She had performed heroically against the elderly, white almost totally male nutters.

This will go down as her finest hour

Most voters were expecting a portion of our country to be disenfranchised and condemned to some undemocratic vassal state purgatory where they will be forever obliged to follow EU rules without getting a voice in elections over them?

This deal is going nowhere. The Cabinet have got to pull the plug on Mrs May before it gets to 11th December.

The Cabinet cannot pull the plug TMay under Tory party rules. In any case she has delivered what most voters were expecting from Brexit. She had performed heroically against the elderly, white almost totally male nutters.

This will go down as her finest hour

Most voters were expecting a portion of our country to be disenfranchised and condemned to some undemocratic vassal state purgatory where they will be forever obliged to follow EU rules without getting a voice in elections over them?

You think it would be forever? You don't have much faith in our MPs, clearly, in which case I'm surprised you think they will do such a bang up job getting something else.

The GOP should still win in Mississippi even with Trump's approval rating that low, indeed the latest Mississippi poll has GOP candidate Cindy Hyde-Smith on 51% to 46% for Democrat Mike Espy, though it may be closer than usual in the state

This deal is going nowhere. The Cabinet have got to pull the plug on Mrs May before it gets to 11th December.

The Cabinet cannot pull the plug TMay under Tory party rules. In any case she has delivered what most voters were expecting from Brexit. She had performed heroically against the elderly, white almost totally male nutters.

This will go down as her finest hour

Most voters were expecting a portion of our country to be disenfranchised and condemned to some undemocratic vassal state purgatory where they will be forever obliged to follow EU rules without getting a voice in elections over them?

You think it would be forever? You don't have much faith in our MPs, clearly, in which case I'm surprised you think they will do such a bang up job getting something else.

With no unilateral exit clause it will be forever unless the EU voluntarily relinquishes the vassal status . . . and that's not something I'm prepared to sign up to.

This deal is going nowhere. The Cabinet have got to pull the plug on Mrs May before it gets to 11th December.

The Cabinet cannot pull the plug TMay under Tory party rules. In any case she has delivered what most voters were expecting from Brexit. She had performed heroically against the elderly, white almost totally male nutters.

This will go down as her finest hour

Most voters were expecting a portion of our country to be disenfranchised and condemned to some undemocratic vassal state purgatory where they will be forever obliged to follow EU rules without getting a voice in elections over them?

I suspect Northern Ireland would vote decisively in favor of the backstop in any referendum.

This deal is going nowhere. The Cabinet have got to pull the plug on Mrs May before it gets to 11th December.

The Cabinet cannot pull the plug TMay under Tory party rules. In any case she has delivered what most voters were expecting from Brexit. She had performed heroically against the elderly, white almost totally male nutters.

This will go down as her finest hour

Most voters were expecting a portion of our country to be disenfranchised and condemned to some undemocratic vassal state purgatory where they will be forever obliged to follow EU rules without getting a voice in elections over them?

I suspect Northern Ireland would vote decisively in favor of the backstop in any referendum.

This deal is going nowhere. The Cabinet have got to pull the plug on Mrs May before it gets to 11th December.

The Cabinet cannot pull the plug TMay under Tory party rules. In any case she has delivered what most voters were expecting from Brexit. She had performed heroically against the elderly, white almost totally male nutters.

This will go down as her finest hour

Most voters were expecting a portion of our country to be disenfranchised and condemned to some undemocratic vassal state purgatory where they will be forever obliged to follow EU rules without getting a voice in elections over them?

Most voters were expecting 'the easiest trade deal in history' which was promised by the Leave campaign. Not the most complex exit from a Union agreement in history before trade talks are even begun. Campaign rhetoric has hit the reality of implementing Brexit

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

The GOP should still win in Mississippi even with Trump's approval rating that low, indeed the latest Mississippi poll has GOP candidate Cindy Hyde-Smith on 51% to 46% for Democrat Mike Espy, though it may be closer than usual in the state

The GOP should still win in Mississippi even with Trump's approval rating that low, indeed the latest Mississippi poll has GOP candidate Cindy Hyde-Smith on 51% to 46% for Democrat Mike Espy, though it may be closer than usual in the state

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Hammond, Clarke, Lidington etc are apparently already ready to demand May switches to backing permanent UK membership of the Customs Union to get Labour MPs and potentially Corbyn's support if May cannot get her Deal through as it stands

The NATO apologists on here are always saying that it's a defensive alliance. Unless the US bestows MNNA status on Ukraine (as they did with Argentina to give them cover for not getting involved in a future Falklands conflict) then NATO has no business in Ukraine.

The GOP should still win in Mississippi even with Trump's approval rating that low, indeed the latest Mississippi poll has GOP candidate Cindy Hyde-Smith on 51% to 46% for Democrat Mike Espy, though it may be closer than usual in the state

This deal is going nowhere. The Cabinet have got to pull the plug on Mrs May before it gets to 11th December.

The Cabinet cannot pull the plug TMay under Tory party rules. In any case she has delivered what most voters were expecting from Brexit. She had performed heroically against the elderly, white almost totally male nutters.

This will go down as her finest hour

Most voters were expecting a portion of our country to be disenfranchised and condemned to some undemocratic vassal state purgatory where they will be forever obliged to follow EU rules without getting a voice in elections over them?

Most voters were expecting 'the easiest trade deal in history' which was promised by the Leave campaign. Not the most complex exit from a Union agreement in history before trade talks are even begun. Campaign rhetoric has hit the reality of implementing Brexit

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Hammond, Clarke, Lidington etc are apparently already ready to demand May switches to backing permanent UK membership of the Customs Union to get Labour MPs and potentially Corbyn's support if May cannot get her Deal through as it stands

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Really.. Its the ERG and other MP's who are being treacherous. Frankly they are just the sort of "bastards" that John Major had to deal with.

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Hammond, Clarke, Lidington etc are apparently already ready to demand May switches to backing permanent UK membership of the Customs Union to get Labour MPs and potentially Corbyn's support if May cannot get her Deal through as it stands

May could end up setting a record - biggest ever defeat for a government?

This is why I continue to believe that she is badly advised, any sensible person in her team would advise not to put this to a vote. It is very bad party management to alienate the two opposing sides leaving just the payroll vote in support.

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Really.. Its the ERG and other MP's who are being treacherous. Frankly they are just the sort of "bastards" that John Major had to deal with.

I don't think you can blame it all on the ERG. It seems the vast majority of MP's on all sides of the House and on all wings of the Tory Party are repulsed by the backstop.

Theresa May should have known she couldn't possibly get this through without some sort of end date or other provision particularly as her government is relying on the DUP to survive...

May could end up setting a record - biggest ever defeat for a government?

This is why I continue to believe that she is badly advised, any sensible person in her team would advise not to put this to a vote. It is very bad party management to alienate the two opposing sides leaving just the payroll vote in support.

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Hammond, Clarke, Lidington etc are apparently already ready to demand May switches to backing permanent UK membership of the Customs Union to get Labour MPs and potentially Corbyn's support if May cannot get her Deal through as it stands

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Hammond, Clarke, Lidington etc are apparently already ready to demand May switches to backing permanent UK membership of the Customs Union to get Labour MPs and potentially Corbyn's support if May cannot get her Deal through as it stands

This deal is going nowhere. The Cabinet have got to pull the plug on Mrs May before it gets to 11th December.

The Cabinet cannot pull the plug TMay under Tory party rules. In any case she has delivered what most voters were expecting from Brexit. She had performed heroically against the elderly, white almost totally male nutters.

This will go down as her finest hour

Most voters were expecting a portion of our country to be disenfranchised and condemned to some undemocratic vassal state purgatory where they will be forever obliged to follow EU rules without getting a voice in elections over them?

Most voters were expecting 'the easiest trade deal in history' which was promised by the Leave campaign. Not the most complex exit from a Union agreement in history before trade talks are even begun. Campaign rhetoric has hit the reality of implementing Brexit

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Really.. Its the ERG and other MP's who are being treacherous. Frankly they are just the sort of "bastards" that John Major had to deal with.

I don't think you can blame it all on the ERG. It seems the vast majority of MP's on all sides of the House and on all wings of the Tory Party are repulsed by the backstop.

Theresa May should have known she couldn't possibly get this through without some sort of end date or other provision particularly as her government is relying on the DUP to survive...

That's piffle! A vociferous minority of the Tory party + the DUP are repulsed by the backstop. Pretty much all the other opponents of the deal want (misguidedly in my view) a 2nd referendum leading to Remain.

May could end up setting a record - biggest ever defeat for a government?

This is why I continue to believe that she is badly advised, any sensible person in her team would advise not to put this to a vote. It is very bad party management to alienate the two opposing sides leaving just the payroll vote in support.

Do you think it's the advice? Or the deaf ears it's falling on?

A bit of both. but the advice is leading to the stubbornness. The ploy last week and continues tonight to get Labour votes to support her. Dumb as rocks, you can not trust Corbyn and it would create a huge chasm in the Tory party.

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Really.. Its the ERG and other MP's who are being treacherous. Frankly they are just the sort of "bastards" that John Major had to deal with.

I don't think you can blame it all on the ERG. It seems the vast majority of MP's on all sides of the House and on all wings of the Tory Party are repulsed by the backstop.

This deal is going nowhere. The Cabinet have got to pull the plug on Mrs May before it gets to 11th December.

The Cabinet cannot pull the plug TMay under Tory party rules. In any case she has delivered what most voters were expecting from Brexit. She had performed heroically against the elderly, white almost totally male nutters.

This will go down as her finest hour

Most voters were expecting a portion of our country to be disenfranchised and condemned to some undemocratic vassal state purgatory where they will be forever obliged to follow EU rules without getting a voice in elections over them?

I suspect Northern Ireland would vote decisively in favor of the backstop in any referendum.

If they do then I'd have no qualms with the backstop happening but only if they vote for it. Sacrificing other people's democratic rights shouldn't be chosen for them.

May could end up setting a record - biggest ever defeat for a government?

This is why I continue to believe that she is badly advised, any sensible person in her team would advise not to put this to a vote. It is very bad party management to alienate the two opposing sides leaving just the payroll vote in support.

Raising this question. If, as seems likely, this is to fall by 100+ (and opposition seems to be hardening if anything), surely it will be a dash for the lifeboats. How many of the "payroll vote" will still be on the payroll come Wednesday 12th?What incentive is there for the ambitious to vote for it? Given that they all know her reign will be short?

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Hammond, Clarke, Lidington etc are apparently already ready to demand May switches to backing permanent UK membership of the Customs Union to get Labour MPs and potentially Corbyn's support if May cannot get her Deal through as it stands

They they have rocks for brains.

No, it is reality, after all the Commons only voted by 307 to 301 votes against staying in the Customs Union in July. That was a closer vote than the vote to invoke Article 50 to leave the EU and the vote to leave the Single Market and will likely be closer than the vote on May's Deal as it stands

May could end up setting a record - biggest ever defeat for a government?

This is why I continue to believe that she is badly advised, any sensible person in her team would advise not to put this to a vote. It is very bad party management to alienate the two opposing sides leaving just the payroll vote in support.

Raising this question. If, as seems likely, this is to fall by 100+ (and opposition seems to be hardening if anything), surely it will be a dash for the lifeboats. How many of the "payroll vote" will still be on the payroll come Wednesday 12th?What incentive is there for the ambitious to vote for it? Given that they all know her reign will be short?

I'm sure there could be a tipping point. But it's fascinating to watch her try to get it through.

If by any chance she does pull this off she'll be untouchable, surely?

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Really.. Its the ERG and other MP's who are being treacherous. Frankly they are just the sort of "bastards" that John Major had to deal with.

I don't think you can blame it all on the ERG. It seems the vast majority of MP's on all sides of the House and on all wings of the Tory Party are repulsed by the backstop.

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Hammond, Clarke, Lidington etc are apparently already ready to demand May switches to backing permanent UK membership of the Customs Union to get Labour MPs and potentially Corbyn's support if May cannot get her Deal through as it stands

They they have rocks for brains.

No, it is reality, after all the Commons only voted by 307 to 301 votes against staying in the Customs Union in July. That was a closer vote than the vote to invoke Article 50 to leave the EU and the vote to leave the Single Market and will likely be closer than the vote on May's Deal as it stands

That vote was because the Labour Party were causing trouble and the ERG backed May. Do the same now and the Labour Party would still want to cause trouble so they would vote against and the DUP and ERG would join them. Big defeat for May.

Her finest hour will be a crushing defeat on the floor of the Commons?

It will show up who the real scum are in the Tory Party. I don't want to be in a party that has such awful people in it. I am going to be one of the, "no idea who to vote for" if the Tory Party does not support its leader.

And that's exactly why the Cabinet would be well advised to threaten a complete walk out if Mrs May doesn't resign and take her deal with her before Dec 11th.

Hammond, Clarke, Lidington etc are apparently already ready to demand May switches to backing permanent UK membership of the Customs Union to get Labour MPs and potentially Corbyn's support if May cannot get her Deal through as it stands

They they have rocks for brains.

No, it is reality, after all the Commons only voted by 307 to 301 votes against staying in the Customs Union in July. That was a closer vote than the vote to invoke Article 50 to leave the EU and the vote to leave the Single Market and will likely be closer than the vote on May's Deal as it stands

Was that not the vote when pairing agreements were broken by the Tories? If so, the real majority was even smaller.

I wonder whether the mooted plan to have a second vote after a TARP-style market reaction to the first vote going down might have one fatal flaw. The markets surely expect the vote to fail and thus its failure will already be priced in to market rates thus any reaction would be minimal.

TARP was expected by the markets to be passed, its failure was unexpected. Just as the markets had expected a remain vote. Its when things go against expectations that we see dramatic changes.

She can hardly not put a deal already struck with the EU to a vote. Especially as Parliament was promised a vote having had a vote to ask for a vote.

For full clarity I did not mean she moved forward with the WDA without a vote. I meant that she should have binned it and told the House that no deal has been reached with the EU that would be acceptable to Parliament.

She can hardly not put a deal already struck with the EU to a vote. Especially as Parliament was promised a vote having had a vote to ask for a vote.

For full clarity I did not mean she moved forward with the WDA without a vote. I meant that she should have binned it and told the House that no deal has been reached with the EU that would be acceptable to Parliament.

She should have but wasn't prepared to not reach a deal, hence she got a shit one.Same as Cameron, he wasn't prepared to not reach a deal, hence he got a shit one.

I wonder whether the mooted plan to have a second vote after a TARP-style market reaction to the first vote going down might have one fatal flaw. The markets surely expect the vote to fail and thus its failure will already be priced in to market rates thus any reaction would be minimal.

TARP was expected by the markets to be passed, its failure was unexpected. Just as the markets had expected a remain vote. Its when things go against expectations that we see dramatic changes.

It would be even funnier if the house voted down the WDA and the pound rose because the markets thought that some sensible people do actually inhabit the place.

I wonder whether the mooted plan to have a second vote after a TARP-style market reaction to the first vote going down might have one fatal flaw. The markets surely expect the vote to fail and thus its failure will already be priced in to market rates thus any reaction would be minimal.

TARP was expected by the markets to be passed, its failure was unexpected. Just as the markets had expected a remain vote. Its when things go against expectations that we see dramatic changes.

It would be even funnier if the house voted down the WDA and the pound rose because the markets thought that some sensible people do actually inhabit the place.

I suspect it will go down but we'll see graphs with stupidly zoomed in y-axes to make it look significant.

I wonder whether the mooted plan to have a second vote after a TARP-style market reaction to the first vote going down might have one fatal flaw. The markets surely expect the vote to fail and thus its failure will already be priced in to market rates thus any reaction would be minimal.

TARP was expected by the markets to be passed, its failure was unexpected. Just as the markets had expected a remain vote. Its when things go against expectations that we see dramatic changes.

It would be even funnier if the house voted down the WDA and the pound rose because the markets thought that some sensible people do actually inhabit the place.

She can hardly not put a deal already struck with the EU to a vote. Especially as Parliament was promised a vote having had a vote to ask for a vote.

For full clarity I did not mean she moved forward with the WDA without a vote. I meant that she should have binned it and told the House that no deal has been reached with the EU that would be acceptable to Parliament.

She should have but wasn't prepared to not reach a deal, hence she got a shit one.Same as Cameron, he wasn't prepared to not reach a deal, hence he got a shit one.

The key to getting a good deal is to be prepared not to get one.

When business panicked after the referendum, they were promised a deal by HMG. So preparing for not having one was never realistic.

Better by far, from her perspective, to debate with Corbyn - she'll run rings round him on the detail.

The public don't care about detail. They look for leadership and an aura of competence, failing that then authenticity. There is no upside for May.

Well, it's a view. You might be right but anecdotally, people I've been speaking to (Tory & Labour, Leavers & Remainers) generally want May to get on with it and can't see what Jezza's bleating on about.

Everyone understandably is focusing on the possibility of an impeachment of the president. But how will American politics be changed if several Trump family members are indicted, even if he is not?

It's a witch hunt. It's fake news.

I think the answer is that any trial would be incredibly poisoned by the President's constant tweets about it. As it would be impossible for the defendants to have a fair trial, there would be a mistrial, which Trump would spin as proof that there was nothing to see here.