When did I say that Andrew Wiggins takes up 10 scholarships by himself?

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Originally Posted by ph90702

Would you rather be ten deep or have Andrew Wiggins and nobody else?

Seems fairly clear to me here. And I would rather have Wiggins than any dude you suit up next year. I don't care what position they play, their class, or their potential. IF your coaches had a shot, and that is a gigantic if, and they didn't at least try to pursue Wiggins, then they should be fired on the spot for being too incompetent to run a basketball program. Period.

Seems fairly clear to me here. And I would rather have Wiggins than any dude you suit up next year. I don't care what position they play, their class, or their potential. IF your coaches had a shot, and that is a gigantic if, and they didn't at least try to pursue Wiggins, then they should be fired on the spot for being too incompetent to run a basketball program. Period.

Seems fairly clear to me here. And I would rather have Wiggins than any dude you suit up next year. I don't care what position they play, their class, or their potential. IF your coaches had a shot, and that is a gigantic if, and they didn't at least try to pursue Wiggins, then they should be fired on the spot for being too incompetent to run a basketball program. Period.

You're avoiding my argument and creating a strawman. I agree with you that he's more talented than anybody on UNLV's team. However, UNLV's roster is very talented, and I've rather have a group of talented players vs. only one talented player.

You're avoiding my argument and creating a strawman. I agree with you that he's more talented than anybody on UNLV's team. However, UNLV's roster is very talented, and I've rather have a group of talented players vs. only one talented player.

Why would you have to trade multiple players for Wiggins? What are you even arguing? You would replace one current recruit with Wiggins and he would start over 1 player. You don't have together rid of any depth or anything so the fact that UNLV has depth has almost nothing to do with why they supposedly didn't want Wiggins even though they apparently could have had him. There is zero logic in what you're saying.

You're avoiding my argument and creating a strawman. I agree with you that he's more talented than anybody on UNLV's team. However, UNLV's roster is very talented, and I've rather have a group of talented players vs. only one talented player.

I am curious why you think that recruiting him vs Kendrick would mean that your team would only have one talented player? Why could you only have one or the other? You've said this two or three times now and I still cannot wrap my mind around it.

To me, it is fairly simple. If you have a shot at Wiggins, you recruit him first and foremost. Kendrick can be a fallback option. He's a JUCO and lightly recruited. He would have been there. Wiggins is at least one of, if not THE, most talented players since LeBron's senior class. If you have a sliver of hope, you recruit him.

I am curious why you think that recruiting him vs Kendrick would mean that your team would only have one talented player? Why could you only have one or the other? You've said this two or three times now and I still cannot wrap my mind around it.

To me, it is fairly simple. If you have a shot at Wiggins, you recruit him first and foremost. Kendrick can be a fallback option. He's a JUCO and lightly recruited. He would have been there. Wiggins is at least one of, if not THE, most talented players since LeBron's senior class. If you have a sliver of hope, you recruit him.

If you're confident in the players you already have, then there's no reason to recruit somebody even as good as Wiggins. He would be good in the short-term, but he probably wouldn't be that good in the long-term. Like I said before, the Rebels are good at the three and four positions. Last year with Bennett was different. He was a need whereas Wiggins isn't. Finally, Bennett didn't disrupt the long-term plans of the Rebels.

When did I say that? When you already have good players at a certain position, why would you recruit somebody to potentially overtake them? If you have a need at small forward, then you should absolutely take Andrew Wiggins.

If you're confident in the players you already have, then there's no reason to recruit somebody even as good as Wiggins. He would be good in the short-term, but he probably wouldn't be that good in the long-term. Like I said before, the Rebels are good at the three and four positions. Last year with Bennett was different. He was a need whereas Wiggins isn't. Finally, Bennett didn't disrupt the long-term plans of the Rebels.

There is ALWAYS a reason to recruit someone like Wiggins. You're telling me that UNLV wouldn't love to have back to back #1 picks? Wiggins would no more disrupt any "plans" than Bennett did. Who is playing SF next year? Goodman? Kendrick? Morant? CLS probably needs to play C. I suppose you could go super small and have a 3g/2f lineup with Goodman as a wing-guard, Birch at SF, and CLS at PF.

Regardless of whether you want to admit it or not, Wiggins outclasses everyone on your current roster by a mile just like Bennett did last year. Marshall, Dejean-Jones, Goodman, Birch, CLS is your likely starting 5 this coming year. You're telling me that putting Wiggins in there instead of Goodman would have been detrimental to your team?

There is ALWAYS a reason to recruit someone like Wiggins. You're telling me that UNLV wouldn't love to have back to back #1 picks? Wiggins would no more disrupt any "plans" than Bennett did. Who is playing SF next year? Goodman? Kendrick? Morant? CLS probably needs to play C. I suppose you could go super small and have a 3g/2f lineup with Goodman as a wing-guard, Birch at SF, and CLS at PF.

Regardless of whether you want to admit it or not, Wiggins outclasses everyone on your current roster by a mile just like Bennett did last year. Marshall, Dejean-Jones, Goodman, Birch, CLS is your likely starting 5 this coming year. You're telling me that putting Wiggins in there instead of Goodman would have been detrimental to your team?

Marshall graduated. Goodman is probably coming off the bench. Lopez-Sosa is definitely coming off the bench unless Birch gets injured. Roscoe Smith and Khem Birch will start in the front court. Jelan Kendrick is the likely starter at small forward.

I already admitted that Wiggins would be the most talented player if he was on UNLV's roster next year.

Why the hell can't you have Wiggins and also have depth? Is there some kind of secret college basketball salary cap that they would be going over?

You can only have 13 scholarship players, so that is like a college basketball salary cap. The Rebels already had 13 scholarship players going into the 2012-13 season with three seniors. They already had three commitments before the season even started and they needed help at point guard. They figured Mike Moser was going pro after the season, so they signed a point guard. After the non-conference season, they essentially knew Bennett was a one-and-done, so they signed another point guard.

Speaking of signing the #1 player, the Rebels are heavily recruiting 2015 center Stephen Zimmerman. Like Bennett, signing him makes sense. He could start right away at center, and it wouldn't cause any problems long-term.

Speaking of another #1 player, UNLV had a good shot with Shabazz Muhammad, but they stopped recruiting him after the scandals involving him and his father became public.

I don't think that it's a black and white fact that you should recruit the #1 player if you have a chance at landing him. Maybe he doesn't fit your offensive or defensive system. Maybe he's got baggage.

One last thing regarding Andrew Wiggins. Dave Rice didn't get to UNLV until Andrew Wiggins was a junior in high school. With a guy of his caliber, it's essentially too late to recruit him once he's a junior. It would have been possible to catch up to the schools that were recruiting him the longest, but it would have been very difficult and most likely a waste of time.

One last thing regarding Andrew Wiggins. Dave Rice didn't get to UNLV until Andrew Wiggins was a junior in high school. With a guy of his caliber, it's essentially too late to recruit him once he's a junior. It would have been possible to catch up to the schools that were recruiting him the longest, but it would have been very difficult and most likely a waste of time.