Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? Who can watch the watchmen?"No one is paying attention to your post reports"Why do posters that claim to have me blocked keep sending me pms and responding to my posts? That makes no sense.

Also, western civilization existed for 4000-ish years before the "Islamic spirit" even realized they should use different hands for wiping their butt and eating. Considering that is still the rule and not "WASH YOUR FREAKING HANDS, WITH SOAP" its still lagging behind.

Maybe ole Balthasar could check in with us on his thread and clarify a few things for us, eh? For starters:"Is *oil* (petroleum) and the demand for it "spiritual"? Just what "historical union" are you referring to?"

By "Islamic Spirit", I am talking about the anti-Christ spirit of Islam. The West, mainstream West is anti-Christ in spirit. In historical context we can have many examples where this spirit unified the Islamic powers with the West to fight against the "authentic" Christian world. For instance, Emperor Justin,for me he was a Western Emperor who probably betrayed the Christian Emperor of Ethiopia, Ezana, to eventually enable the empowerment of Mohammad. Another example is Constantinople. You all know the story.

By "Islamic Spirit", I am talking about the anti-Christ spirit of Islam. The West, mainstream West is anti-Christ in spirit. In historical context we can have many examples where this spirit unified the Islamic powers with the West to fight against the "authentic" Christian world. For instance, Emperor Justin,for me he was a Western Emperor who probably betrayed the Christian Emperor of Ethiopia, Ezana, to eventually enable the empowerment of Mohammad. Another example is Constantinople. You all know the story.

What is "mainstream West"?

What about the East? You know, Asia? No "anti-Christ spirit" there? What about, hmm....Africa? No "anti-Christ spirit" there? South America? None there?

What about, as someone mentioned earlier, the fact that there was a "West" before there was Islam?

What point are you trying to establish or prove? That there is an "anti-Christ spirit" loose in the world? I think we know that.

Also, western civilization existed for 4000-ish years before the "Islamic spirit" even realized they should use different hands for wiping their butt and eating. Considering that is still the rule and not "WASH YOUR FREAKING HANDS, WITH SOAP" its still lagging behind.

I was not aware of the underlined rule, and have broken it consistently. But I do wash afterwards.

By the way, I am not sure what you mean Jason. Do you mean that the Islamic spirit has not gotten up to the level of washing their hands and the spirit continues to follow what "is still the rule" (using different hands for eating and wiping)?

Anyway, the Middle East was apparently far more advanced in personal hygiene when the crusaders invaded. That may sound surprising to you, but the Catholic crusaders' slovenliness surprised the Middle Easterners too.

That brings to mind that you are probably inadvertently speaking against the original (Ethiopian?) poster on the forum, since you bring up images of eastern backwardness, rather than specifically "Islamic" religious issues.

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The ocean, infinite to men, and the worlds beyond it, are directed by the same ordinances of the Lord. ~ I Clement 20

The Christian (to varying degrees) West is linked to the Moslems in the same way that Israel was to the Assyrians and Babylonians.

I think the opposite is more likely true. Alot of Muslim countries' governments are dependent on US support, just as, at times the ancient Israelites likely "deferred" to or may have even paid tribute to stronger powers nearby.

In the case of Middle Eastern countries (like Libya at the moment), the modern "tithe" could be the extraction of those countries' natural resources (oil) and transfer of them to the victorious countries.

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The ocean, infinite to men, and the worlds beyond it, are directed by the same ordinances of the Lord. ~ I Clement 20

Also, western civilization existed for 4000-ish years before the "Islamic spirit" even realized they should use different hands for wiping their butt and eating. Considering that is still the rule and not "WASH YOUR FREAKING HANDS, WITH SOAP" its still lagging behind.

I was not aware of the underlined rule, and have broken it consistently. But I do wash afterwards.

By the way, I am not sure what you mean Jason. Do you mean that the Islamic spirit has not gotten up to the level of washing their hands and the spirit continues to follow what "is still the rule" (using different hands for eating and wiping)?

Anyway, the Middle East was apparently far more advanced in personal hygiene when the crusaders invaded. That may sound surprising to you, but the Catholic crusaders' slovenliness surprised the Middle Easterners too.

That brings to mind that you are probably inadvertently speaking against the original (Ethiopian?) poster on the forum, since you bring up images of eastern backwardness, rather than specifically "Islamic" religious issues.

I was talking about how it is the rule in their religion about using different hands (the Qadaa' al-Haajah stuff), but they haven't just amended it to "wash your hands." And I'm technically/genetically more eastern than Ethiopia (or Greece, Russian or Iran...) so no... I'm Western, Eastern and so-east-you're-somewhere-in-Asia all in one.

"West" is not a mere geographical discription. Greece is the cradle of "Western" civilization. In today's world Russia and Japan too belong to the Western civilization.

Going back the anti-Christ spirit, as we all know, spiritual diseases lead to spiritual death, Homosexuality is the symptom of this cancerous disease. And this particular disease is widespread in the West and Islamic-dominated states.

Now, may be 'Cardinal' Biro might get angry because his potential candidate for the Roman Papacy, Peter the Roman Son of the Turk said the following to the Christian-biased, Christiane Amanpour:

“African traditional systems kind of protect or have protected its population against this tendency,” the cardinal said. Unlike in the West, the rejection of homosexuality in Africa has protected children from molesters. Cardinal Turkson:

“African traditional systems kind of protect or have protected its population against this tendency,” the cardinal said. Unlike in the West, the rejection of homosexuality in Africa has protected children from molesters. Cardinal Turkson:

'Evil isn't the real threat to the world. Stupid is just as destructive as evil, maybe more so, and it's a hell of a lot more common. What we really need is a crusade against stupid. That might actually make a difference.'~Harry Dresden

"West" is not a mere geographical discription. Greece is the cradle of "Western" civilization. In today's world Russia and Japan too belong to the Western civilization.

Going back the anti-Christ spirit, as we all know, spiritual diseases lead to spiritual death, Homosexuality is the symptom of this cancerous disease. And this particular disease is widespread in the West and Islamic-dominated states.

Now, may be 'Cardinal' Biro might get angry because his potential candidate for the Roman Papacy, Peter the Roman Son of the Turk said the following to the Christian-biased, Christiane Amanpour:

“African traditional systems kind of protect or have protected its population against this tendency,” the cardinal said. Unlike in the West, the rejection of homosexuality in Africa has protected children from molesters. Cardinal Turkson:

"West" is not a mere geographical discription. Greece is the cradle of "Western" civilization. In today's world Russia and Japan too belong to the Western civilization.

Going back the anti-Christ spirit, as we all know, spiritual diseases lead to spiritual death, Homosexuality is the symptom of this cancerous disease. And this particular disease is widespread in the West and Islamic-dominated states.

Now, may be 'Cardinal' Biro might get angry because his potential candidate for the Roman Papacy, Peter the Roman Son of the Turk said the following to the Christian-biased, Christiane Amanpour:

“African traditional systems kind of protect or have protected its population against this tendency,” the cardinal said. Unlike in the West, the rejection of homosexuality in Africa has protected children from molesters. Cardinal Turkson:

"West" is not a mere geographical discription. Greece is the cradle of "Western" civilization. In today's world Russia and Japan too belong to the Western civilization.

Going back the anti-Christ spirit, as we all know, spiritual diseases lead to spiritual death, Homosexuality is the symptom of this cancerous disease. And this particular disease is widespread in the West and Islamic-dominated states.

Now, may be 'Cardinal' Biro might get angry because his potential candidate for the Roman Papacy, Peter the Roman Son of the Turk said the following to the Christian-biased, Christiane Amanpour:

“African traditional systems kind of protect or have protected its population against this tendency,” the cardinal said. Unlike in the West, the rejection of homosexuality in Africa has protected children from molesters. Cardinal Turkson:

P.S: Please be wary of those whose name begins with “Christian” “Christine” or “Christiane”

One, I'm a her. Two, I'm not a cardinal. See statement one.

Three, step away from the keyboard. You may hurt yourself.

I take offense to the "p.s." Christina/Christine/Kristin etc... is an honorable Orthodox name. St. Christina of Tyre, the Great Martyr is particularly revered. She also happens to be my daughter's patron and name saint.