Also, when you look at the PCS, both in the SD and FD, Ralph/Hill were clearly sixth so the judges are sending them a not very subtle "YOU CAN LEAVE NOW" message. :P

Please, the message sounds more like "You got to roll up your sleeves"!.
With more work, they can come back. 2 years ago they were also out of contention and they pulled it together last year.
Also, they are good enough to be kept in the pool, you never know what can happen to the top teams, as we have seen, last year P/I got injured, this year W/P. It is foolish to think a federation to send a team which was 13 in the world into retirement.
Based on the results, they are 5th and part of the team, because W/P are injured.
It is the same like when Tessa and Scott were out. 6 teams were on the roster.

Doris I am sure we will see R/H at least at a "B" competition next year.

I would have to agree with Doris and Colleen in terms of a coaching change. It's obvious that R/H is a talented team but have been playing second fiddle to Paul Poirier...The ideal situation would have been for them to switch coaches last year to someone like Wing/Lowe. I understand that they have loyalty to the program at the Scarborough skating club, school etc but I think we can all agree that the only time they got decent programs is when Poirier/Crone disolved...nothing personal against Poirier but it's just obvious that at that rink - he is numero uno...

i would have to agree with doris and colleen in terms of a coaching change. It's obvious that r/h is a talented team but have been playing second fiddle to paul poirier...the ideal situation would have been for them to switch coaches last year to someone like wing/lowe. I understand that they have loyalty to the program at the scarborough skating club, school etc but i think we can all agree that the only time they got decent programs is when poirier/crone disolved...nothing personal against poirier but it's just obvious that at that rink - he is numero uno...

I would have to agree with Doris and Colleen in terms of a coaching change. It's obvious that R/H is a talented team but have been playing second fiddle to Paul Poirier...The ideal situation would have been for them to switch coaches last year to someone like Wing/Lowe. I understand that they have loyalty to the program at the Scarborough skating club, school etc but I think we can all agree that the only time they got decent programs is when Poirier/Crone disolved...nothing personal against Poirier but it's just obvious that at that rink - he is numero uno...

Paul Poirier happens to be the most talented figure skater at that rink and so it's certainly possible that Carol Lane considers him to be her best pupil. But Paul and Asher Hill have a good friendship as far as I know.

Hi Ryan - I agree with you that it is most likely that all skaters at the Scarborough club get along - judging by their tweets. I just have a hard time believing that the coaching staff cannot give both G/P and R/H solid programs. I mean they don't have the plethora of skaters as the Detroit Skating Club. And this has been going on for years. From an outsider's perspective it appears that it's acceptable to have R/H play second fiddle to G/P at that club...again I think this team would be better represented from another coaching team - whether Wing/Lowe or even Dubreil/Lauzon...