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View Poll Results: Should Wiscnson Democrats be paid while they hide in Illinois?

Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

I can't decide whether people are reacting out of principle or partisanship.

Whether this is 'heroism' or 'subversion' only counts in the eyes of the people of Wisconsin. Non-compliance and disruption seem to be what "the people" want these days, so it could be received either way.

As a law book thumper, I'd say they should be subject to the laws applicable to errant lawmakers.

Last edited by Morality Games; 02-21-11 at 03:51 PM.

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Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

Originally Posted by DontDoIt

They are paid to represent the people of Wisconsin, and they're doing just the opposite of that. Do your damn job.

Nope. It appears that they are doing exactly that, protecting the people of Wisconsin from an elective dictatorship. There are more ways to represent your constituents than merely making yourself into compliant lobby fodder. They are opposing the Governor using congessional procedure, just like raising points of order, filibustering, obstructive amendments etc. As I applaud their aim, I applaud their tactics. As you deplore their aim, you deplore their tactics. That's politics for you.

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Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

Originally Posted by Ockham

Just to be clear - you are betting a minimum 9 of the 16 will get re-elected. (10 or 12 or > will fulfill the requirement) I am bettering a minimum 9 of the 16 will not get re-elected, more will also fulfill the requirement.. The stakes are: The loser must use the avatar of the winners choice, for 30 days, starting at the begininng of the next month. The avatar of course, must meet the acceptability of DP and cannot be offensive or violate the DP rules. Otherwise... it's open. The disclaimer is, if any of those 16 retires, dies, get's incapacitated, or otherwise cannot run - they are excluded and the numbers will change, but you will still be required to have a majority. Appointments due to early retirements will not count as being "elected" in any case.

If you say YES to the terms, I will then be required to say YES to those terms, and the bet is on. It requires us both to agree, even though I'm suggesting those terms and the wager. If you agree - say YES.

I ma betting that when we take the Dems who left the state, a majority of them who run in the next election cycle will be re-elected. I certainly am NOT going to take somebody who dies or does not run. I am NOT going to be put in the position of having to argue WHY somebody did not run... that is a ridiculous proposition. Nor would I expect you to do the same in the same situation. We bet on those before the electorate. I say that a majority of those who Dems who left will be re-elected when they stand before the public for re-election.

Your terms regarding the avatar are fine and acceptable.

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Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

Originally Posted by DontDoIt

They are paid to represent the people of Wisconsin, and they're doing just the opposite of that. Do your damn job.

They most certainly are representing the people of Wisconsin. And doing a damn good job of it as well. They are true heroes.

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Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

Originally Posted by haymarket

I ma betting that when we take the Dems who left the state, a majority of them who run in the next election cycle will be re-elected. I certainly am NOT going to take somebody who dies or does not run. I am NOT going to be put in the position of having to argue WHY somebody did not run... that is a ridiculous proposition. Nor would I expect you to do the same in the same situation. We bet on those before the electorate. I say that a majority of those who Dems who left will be re-elected when they stand before the public for re-election.

Your terms regarding the avatar are fine and acceptable.

We bet as soon as the 16 Democratic Wisconsim members are identified. The 16 do no actually need to be by name, as long as we know who they are, if one dies, then it's 15, and you'll need to get 8 to be re-elected.

Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

Originally Posted by haymarket

They most certainly are representing the people of Wisconsin. And doing a damn good job of it as well. They are true heroes.

Hahahahaha, such a Koolaider.

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Re: Should Wisconsin Democrats be paid while they hide out in Illinois?

Originally Posted by haymarket

They most certainly are representing the people of Wisconsin. And doing a damn good job of it as well. They are true heroes.

If what has been said about the fake sick notes is true, they're not heroes - they're dishonest and unreliable. How are they doing their job if they don't show up to work?! Protest on the weekends. If I pulled this stunt, my contract would be gone-zo quicker than I can say that pensions are a ponzi scheme.