Another passed ball for Flowers, that's 6 now. And that doesn't even count all the extra wild pitches caused because he just tries to backhand everything in the dirt instead of blocking them. Can't hit, can't catch, and really seems to be giving a half-assed effort, fits in perfect on this team.

If your a catcher hitting .200, you better be an awesome catcher. Not the case with Flowers, not even close.

Ok, I'll buy your thought of Robin having too much class to just walk away, but I believe he'll walk at the end of the season no matter what actions might be made. Just my feeling.

If he does then walk....who's next? Robin wasn't hired for his experience, but rather on loyalty and he was CHEAP. So, back to my question, what decent manager would want to inherit this steaming pile? Even if a fire sale occurs with a major rebuild, who would accept the challenge with what JR would be willing to pay?

Another passed ball for Flowers, that's 6 now. And that doesn't even count all the extra wild pitches caused because he just tries to backhand everything in the dirt instead of blocking them. Can't hit, can't catch, and really seems to be giving a half-assed effort, fits in perfect on this team.

Ventura will probably manage out his contract, but I think he would be better off as a minor league manager. He seems much better at teaching players, than busting chops. In the minors, if you teach the kids properly, the wins will like as themselves. Not necessarily the case in the Majors.

That's OK - when we let him go or he walks away, the Sox have plenty of former Sox players with zero coaching experience at any level ever from which to choose. I nominate John Cangelosi.

Ok, I'll buy your thought of Robin having too much class to just walk away, but I believe he'll walk at the end of the season no matter what actions might be made. Just my feeling.

If he does then walk....who's next? Robin wasn't hired for his experience, but rather on loyalty and he was CHEAP. So, back to my question, what decent manager would want to inherit this steaming pile? Even if a fire sale occurs with a major rebuild, who would accept the challenge with what JR would be willing to pay?

I'm sure there would be a lot of guys willing to work on the cheap for a shot to manage a big league team. As to whether they are any good or not, that would remain to be seen.

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Amazing how exposed Tyler has become now that he is catching more than once a week. His pure fundamentals of catching the ball seem flawed. As Stoney pointed out, he should not be trying to backhand a ball in the dirt right in front of him.

Bring on Phlegley....or whoever.
I prefer Jiminez to Flowers right now.

Again,this shows the inexact nature of ''trading the vets for young prospects'' .....Flowers and Lillibridge were our big pieces for Javy,right?