I posted on the 'MMA Memories' thread about the Atalla/ De Souza fight. Great memories of myself and Hywel Teague stood up as we commentated in possibly the best atmosphere anywhere ever!! lol. I'm sure it was over Roberto claiming Alex got his Black Belt on the plane over to the Uk or summat. Whatever started it it was a great fight..

as i recall roberto said that if you could earn bjj from a black belt (such as him) then it would be a waste to learn from a lower belt (like alex). i'm not sure he was specifically talking about alex in his original post but it escalated from there.

Are some people wearing rose tinted glasses here especially about how friendly Cage Rage & Cage Warriors were, as I recall Bisping was forced to give up his cage rage title because of his link to cage warriors.

The reason it is so much worse now though is simple, money.
Fighters slag off fighters who are a threat to their spot. Promoters slag off others & if MMA continues to grow & more money becomes available in the sport it will only get worse.

Are some people wearing rose tinted glasses here especially about how friendly Cage Rage & Cage Warriors were, as I recall Bisping was forced to give up his cage rage title because of his link to cage warriors.

Yeah but that was after the fall out. Until the Cage getting stolen incident and Cage Rage getting sponsored by Pole Position things were very friendly. Both would be sat at the top table of the other promotion. Even at the Octagon CW events i have a pic of us all sat round the table. Myself, most of the Cartel guys, DoD and his missus, Eddie Bravo etc.

as i recall roberto said that if you could earn bjj from a black belt (such as him) then it would be a waste to learn from a lower belt (like alex). i'm not sure he was specifically talking about alex in his original post but it escalated from there.

as i recall he suggested non black belts should move out of London to give him first pick on the students