As far as the trade comment goes. The only way I see them trading Nylander is if because now that he's signed, his value is higher, so he'll return a defenceman of equal value. But that still depends on two things, one is that another team is willing to make a trade along those lines, and two is that the Leafs think they need to make a move along those lines.

So probably Leivo for like a 7th or an AHL player who doesn't have to go on the NHL roster?

Leivo for a upper quality AHL goalie who's already passed through waivers might interest me I guess. But if it's just for a 6th or 7th round pick then like I said just waive Gauthier or Holl, they'd both clear I'd imagine.

So probably Leivo for like a 7th or an AHL player who doesn't have to go on the NHL roster?

Leivo for a upper quality AHL goalie who's already passed through waivers might interest me I guess. But if it's just for a 6th or 7th round pick then like I said just waive Gauthier or Holl, they'd both clear I'd imagine.

I know this is probably just me being optimistic but at this point Leivo has basically played an entire season's worth of NHL games over his career. In those 84 games he's got 14 goals, 28 points with pretty decent possession numbers and only getting around 11 minutes a game.

I appreciate the ways in which the NHL doesn't tend to work like this but if that represented a single season for a player, what would that player be worth? Ok, still not much probably but the idea of getting a 3rd or a 4th for a guy who's sort of proven he can be an effective 4th liner with some scoring punch isn't the craziest thing in the world.

I know this is probably just me being optimistic but at this point Leivo has basically played an entire season's worth of NHL games over his career. In those 84 games he's got 14 goals, 28 points with pretty decent possession numbers and only getting around 11 minutes a game.

I appreciate the ways in which the NHL doesn't tend to work like this but if that represented a single season for a player, what would that player be worth? Ok, still not much probably but the idea of getting a 3rd or a 4th for a guy who's sort of proven he can be an effective 4th liner with some scoring punch isn't the craziest thing in the world.

Yeah I get where you're coming from, throwing a mid round pick away seems like a fair deal for a young player who should be a productive part of your 4th line. I just can't think of any comparables where a player like him got that much. But who knows. Maybe whoever loses out on the Brendan Leipsic waivers sweepstakes will be desperate.

Yeah I get where you're coming from, throwing a mid round pick away seems like a fair deal for a young player who should be a productive part of your 4th line. I just can't think of any comparables where a player like him got that much. But who knows. Maybe whoever loses out on the Brendan Leipsic waivers sweepstakes will be desperate.

It's not a perfect comparison but Frank Vatrano had somewhat similar numbers(31 points in 109 games spread over 3 seasons) with Boston when he was traded to Florida for a 3rd rounder.