Stretch it out, I cut a number on either end. He fell off a bit after losing Briere and Drury. He has really fallen off over the last 3 seasons. I am not sure from whom it comes, Regier or Ruff or a combo of the two.

They pay Ehrhoff a load and put him on #2 PP in favor of Myers. Force Myers into the QB role (he should only be a trigger) and shutdown role (he should be middle pair/physical). Hasn't used his best playmakers on #1 PP. Guys like Ennis and Leino. He isn't putting players in a position to succeed like he used to do. They offloaded Leopold who was likely their second best dman. He had a horrific problem in that he doesn't have an elite playmaker. His best were second and third tier. He gave way too much time to Gaustad who sucked the offense out of any line he was on with his lack of speed.

Well, the focus isn't on hitting with this staff. While they're right that there are more important issues than hitting like puck management and defensive positioning, it's something that ought to be ingrained in their thought process and it isn't. I don't care if the team is on the losing end of the hit stat but there's no reason to not finish your check unless you see an opportunity to pick up a loose puck...especially on the fore-check.

Yes. The number of fly bys on the forecheck was disheartening. They hit more against the Canucks it seemed but that was probably because the hate them.

Stretch it out, I cut a number on either end. He fell off a bit after losing Briere and Drury. He has really fallen off over the last 3 seasons. I am not sure from whom it comes, Regier or Ruff or a combo of the two.

They pay Ehrhoff a load and put him on #2 PP in favor of Myers. Force Myers into the QB role (he should only be a trigger) and shutdown role (he should be middle pair/physical). Hasn't used his best playmakers on #1 PP. Guys like Ennis and Leino. He isn't putting players in a position to succeed like he used to do. They offloaded Leopold who was likely their second best dman. He had a horrific problem in that he doesn't have an elite playmaker. His best were second and third tier. He gave way too much time to Gaustad who sucked the offense out of any line he was on with his lack of speed.

Regier's decisions personnel-wise have been suspect since they've loosened the purse strings. I agree Ruff hasn't used it too well. I don't expect Ruff or anyone of that type to really come here. If they wanted to go for it again, they might as well keep McLellan because none of the ones that are available are that much different that it would bring some element that this team is sorely lacking. They need a new direction as an organization as a whole.

It's funny you say this because Mark Jackson got badly outcoached against the Spurs. Look no further than Game 1 vs. Spurs.

As someone said, hardly anyone matches Pop so that's not exactly a damning knock on Jackson. The fact remains that he had the team overachieve and play hard against the Spurs, even with significant injuries to Curry and Bogut.

But anyway, I just wonder if someone with more of an edge or focus on a defined mentality (not necessarily on the level of Tortorella or that style) would benefit the Sharks.

As someone said, hardly anyone matches Pop so that's not exactly a damning knock on Jackson. The fact remains that he had the team overachieve and play hard against the Spurs, even with significant injuries to Curry and Bogut.

But anyway, I just wonder if someone with more of an edge or focus on a defined mentality (not necessarily on the level of Tortorella or that style) would benefit the Sharks.

I don't know if coaching is the answer... depth was. 2 top 9 guys out. Irwin was a mess in game 7 and a few other games. For as deep as the sharks are on D it was mistake not to get Demers back in and playing somehow. Didn't Demers play in the previous game 7 against detroit?

Frankly considering how well the group played I would like to see it go another year before rebuilding. Fix the Havlat situation, sign Torres and maybe Gomez and give it another go. Nieto and maybe another young D on the back end and go again. Burish needs a kick in the nutz for that stupid penalty in a game 7 though.

If anything, I consider moving Pavs for either a good offensive defenman prospect or a younger fast forward. This lineup with TOrres and another top 6 scoring winger beats LA in 5 IMO and would have been a strong contender for the cup. You can all thank Shanaban for this series loss.

He's simply an easy point of reference to illustrate the point, but I can see where people might assume that I am implying the extreme end of the spectrum.

We're approaching the end of an era with some guys, and I wonder if we would benefit from a new approach as well under players like Couture. It leaves me wondering how our staff and front office would manage such a transition, or even if they decide to squeeze everything possible out of Thornton and Marleau to the very end (which I don't agree with).

Easy to forget that we couldn't ice a 3rd line of Wingels Pavelski Torres for this round. That would have made a huge difference. Our extra forward is Tim Kennedy. Kings have Trevor freaking Lewis. Things like THAT make a big difference, things out of Tmacs control

Easy to forget that we couldn't ice a 3rd line of Wingels Pavelski Torres for this round. That would have made a huge difference. Our extra forward is Tim Kennedy. Kings have Trevor freaking Lewis. Things like THAT make a big difference, things out of Tmacs control

But what is in his control is how to use what he has. No, he couldn't use Torres-Pavelski-Wingels but the third line was obviously not working as it was constructed. And it was obvious that Pavelski was not contributing much with Marleau and Couture. They could've put Sheppard or Gomez up there and dropped Pavelski down and at least had Pavelski either help shut down the top guys or play against weaker guys depending on what Sutter iced instead of going with a line that was doomed from the start.

Yeeeeah, let's keep playing the 4th line with 6 minutes left to go in game 7 when we need a goal - a line that can't do **** on the score-sheet ...

Is this idiot's contract up, or does he really need to be fired? Can we just let him walk?

Fire DW while we're at it too ...

This is what I don't get. The 4th line got more time this game than game 6. Thornton had less than 20 mins icetime. The other big guns barely got over 20. Why the hell didn't he empty the tank? This should have been the game to let Boyle play 25+ and the forwards get 22 mins. Seriously rolling the 4th line 10 mins in game 7? Fraser and Toffoli only got 5 and 6 mins for the Kings.

But what is in his control is how to use what he has. No, he couldn't use Torres-Pavelski-Wingels but the third line was obviously not working as it was constructed. And it was obvious that Pavelski was not contributing much with Marleau and Couture. They could've put Sheppard or Gomez up there and dropped Pavelski down and at least had Pavelski either help shut down the top guys or play against weaker guys depending on what Sutter iced instead of going with a line that was doomed from the start.

I'm just going to quote this from now on, cause you and I both were saying it before the game started, and it makes me really mad that I was right about the fact that my decisions were better than that of a head coach with obvious biases.