Interests:I'm just a quiet simple person with a very quiet simple life living one day at a time..

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Posted 12 December 2012 - 02:47 PM

Yes, you are correct. I am indeed familiarized with winbuilder.

I just feel that each project has its own way of doing things and many times I have no idea of what is really happening underneath the hood.

When the projects are small and simple, it is straightforward to understand where things go wrong.

When projects get more elaborated then it gets difficult to keep track and debug what might be going wrong. On these cases, If I can't help with a fix then I just provide feedback as a standard user with some more experience on his hands (knows who to contact, uploads the log somewhere, provides more detailed info and so forth).

In terms of seeing things as a "new user", I don't think this is an easy task. Whenever placing myself into this position I clear the cache, cookies and browsing history in my brain and try to see things from that perspective. Also helps to use a fresh Windows virtual image to test a project.

When the projects are small and simple, it is straightforward to understand where things go wrong.

I was having the impression that a project to build a small and simple less-than-100-Mb PE with no apps but the Explorer.exe and possibly a few "basic" ones like Notepad would have been "small and simple".

I was having the impression that a project to build a small and simple less-than-100-Mb PE with no apps but the Explorer.exe and possibly a few "basic" ones like Notepad would have been "small and simple".

Why?
The most simple way to create such a project is, to use an existing one and add a delete script.

Actually I was trying to defend you reputation of "above standard" winbuilder user.

Give a break for those who are actually participating in the competition. In the end I'm quite sure Peter's project will work as intended.

I am pretty sure he will

Would like to see Wonko's entry on the show. Batch scripts are allowed, do you know that?

I find it improbable that Wonko will take part to this competition, maybe next time.

Wonko

Please note how the above is NOT what I posted, only what the stupid board parser decides to interpreter, here is the full post (in code tags)

[quote name="Nuno Brito" post="164143" time="1355329538"]:rofl: you guys are so mean.. [/quote]Actually I was trying to defend you reputation of "above standard" winbuilder user. [quote name="Nuno Brito" post="164143" time="1355329538"] Give a break for those who are actually participating in the competition. In the end I'm quite sure Peter's project will work as intended.[/quote]I am pretty sure he will :), as a matter of fact I am very confident in Peter's abilities :worship: and an estimator of most of the good work he does, go Peter, go! :cheerleader: [quote name="Nuno Brito" post="164143" time="1355329538"]Would like to see Wonko's entry on the show. Batch scripts are allowed, do you know that? :lol:[/quote]I find it improbable that Wonko will take part to this competition, maybe next time.:cheers:Wonko

only by sheer luck the sense of the second sentence is not distorted by the missing parts!

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Interests:I'm just a quiet simple person with a very quiet simple life living one day at a time..

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 02:07 PM

Looks great and 79Mb is a good achievement. Already downloaded the same Windows source you mention and will soon try from a virtual machine to post feedback.

In the meanwhile, I would just recommend investing on the eye candy. If possible, add up the glass theme to make it look more full-windows like and improve the "wow" effect of keeping it running below the 100Mb and just look stunning by design.

In the meanwhile, I would just recommend investing on the eye candy. If possible, add up the glass theme to make it look more full-windows like and improve the "wow" effect of keeping it running below the 100Mb and just look stunning by design.

The good thing in life is how everyone has his/her own tastes and preferences.

To me adding even one single byte to the build to add some "wow" effect or make it "stunning by design" is unneeded bloat.

We are talking of a minimal, fast booting thingy here, unless I am mistaken.

I only setup my virtual machine today. Peter's project will soon be run from there.

Yep , but independently from this I already gave as granted that Peter will deliver within the deadline and that his project will actually build .

I was pushing a bit the "other" competitiors (if any).

Should by pure chance the Mayas be right (actually the completely absurd interpretation of some of their glyphs carved in stone) Al_jo would be the winner (but noone would or actually would be able to care about this fact).

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Peter has announced the release of his working multiPE project for the deadline dec 23th, as Nuno wasn't able to build from the experimental version.

Hi people, you seem to be curious about my work!

To give you small hint about current stage.

multiPE 063 can with WBManager choose 4 different configurations due to this contest:

milli contains a reasonable collection of command line tools and networking with internet access by Opera (still under development)micro is milli without networking (working)nano is micro without the command line tools (working)pico is artificially sized down by use of upx, and by removing ressources like AVI, with ResHacker. (working)I did only some exemplary uses of upx and Reshacker. Enthusiasts of smaller sizes may expand. I personally do not like such "as smaller, as better" when it is only used to save some bytes of the gigabytes empty disk space.When loading such compressed data into RAM, it expands, and NO RAM space is won.