In post 912, Prism wrote:I've got a few things I want to respond to later but for now why are people assuming nn30 is town again?

I'm not afraid to go after someone when I see the need to. I draw attention to myself doing so (which scum don't want).

I won't force a re-read on you but the vast majority of people have town read me at one point or another (for differing reasons).

I read your post which detailed why you thought I was scum. You make some good points. For example, my saying saying I'm the most ob! town person here is classic scum logic. In a vacuum I'd agree with you. However, I implore you to consider it within the context of the current game - where tons of people had already stated a strong town read on me - and take a second look at me.

nn you are seriously thick.This is day 1. I tried several times for reads from eager. He either kept giving in related responses or avoiding it all together and he was getting away with all of it cause lol day 1. What the hell did you expect me to do ask his read on every player till he does, keep shouting at him? You are being extremely unreasonable.

You had, in your mind, a conf! scum read on him. You could have waited any amount of time you wished. Given more time, you almost certainly would have gotten relevant information out of him. Instead you blew your load early and, as a result, have exactly one viable town read as a result of Eager's actions.

I had my vote on boring all day and nobody even nibbled at it, usually I would think scum would at least take a nibble at it. This makes it more likely boring is scum. Also boring seems happy with this conflict and jumped on me without any question, also used the gambler's fallacy to her own defense.

I'm liking this logic a lot.

If true, it links Boring to Shadow_Step as well. Boring seemingly needed 0 convincing to join the Eager Snake wagon. See below.

Nothing new has happened and sudde ly GE realised he should look back and reconsider which is BS. LUV jumped on my wagon so he jumped on it too to protect his buddy Eager for one more day.Tomorrow they'll argue he is also town after my flip.

In post 934, nn30 wrote:@Eager - I know that you think you're both town ascetic with Shadow. However, pretend for a moment that there are other possibilities. I'd like your best argument for:

1) You both being town

2) Shadow being scum and CCing you

Best argument for him being town is that it makes no sense to cc me as scum in his position. If he was scum he would know I'm town which means he's knowingly putting himself into a 1/1 trade with me, which is not optimal as scum, and I don't consider myself a big enough threat for it to become an optimal play. Also his play is in line with his claim and motivation. If scum wanted me dead, it's highly unlikely and ridiculously suboptimal to do it this way, rather than just NKing me. Unless, of course, he knew I would advocate for both of us being town, and thought he would still survive after I flip, but theres extremely low chance of him knowing that.

Best argument for him being scum and ccing me is that his scumbuddy was under heat and he needed to cause a distraction, even if it ended in his own death tomorrow. That scum buddy would be in [boring, pp, gamma]

In post 910, Shadow_step wrote:OMG nn you are biggest dumbfuck ever.You want me claim ascetic on day 6?Or, " I don't have enough info yet, so let's on scum eager live another day and lynch someone else." That's what you expect me to do? Are you that fucking dense?

I absolutely expect you to do that.

Sacrificing a townie so that you can identify more scum is absolutely good play.

In post 939, Shadow_step wrote:Nothing new has happened and sudde ly GE realised he should look back and reconsider which is BS. LUV jumped on my wagon so he jumped on it too to protect his buddy Eager for one more day.Tomorrow they'll argue he is also town after my flip.

This happened:

In post 926, eagerSnake wrote:Yet she somehow has you as top townread for being "aggressive town persona. A hint of grandiosity.", something shes supposedly "never seen before in scum". Sounds like a fake read

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In post 939, Shadow_step wrote:Nothing new has happened and sudde ly GE realised he should look back and reconsider which is BS. LUV jumped on my wagon so he jumped on it too to protect his buddy Eager for one more day.Tomorrow they'll argue he is also town after my flip.

This happened:

In post 926, eagerSnake wrote:Yet she somehow has you as top townread for being "aggressive town persona. A hint of grandiosity.", something shes supposedly "never seen before in scum". Sounds like a fake read

In post 910, Shadow_step wrote:OMG nn you are biggest dumbfuck ever.You want me claim ascetic on day 6?Or, " I don't have enough info yet, so let's on scum eager live another day and lynch someone else." That's what you expect me to do? Are you that fucking dense?

I absolutely expect you to do that.

Sacrificing a townie so that you can identify more scum is absolutely good play.

In post 939, Shadow_step wrote:Nothing new has happened and sudde ly GE realised he should look back and reconsider which is BS. LUV jumped on my wagon so he jumped on it too to protect his buddy Eager for one more day.Tomorrow they'll argue he is also town after my flip.

This happened:

In post 926, eagerSnake wrote:Yet she somehow has you as top townread for being "aggressive town persona. A hint of grandiosity.", something shes supposedly "never seen before in scum". Sounds like a fake read

Why does it sound like a fake read to you?

Because I don't see where she draws this conclusion based on his posting at that point. Especially not enough to have him as top tr of the game

In post 939, Shadow_step wrote:Nothing new has happened and sudde ly GE realised he should look back and reconsider which is BS. LUV jumped on my wagon so he jumped on it too to protect his buddy Eager for one more day.Tomorrow they'll argue he is also town after my flip.

This happened:

In post 926, eagerSnake wrote:Yet she somehow has you as top townread for being "aggressive town persona. A hint of grandiosity.", something shes supposedly "never seen before in scum". Sounds like a fake read

Why does it sound like a fake read to you?

Well for one, the "powertown" (what boring said Shadow was doing) is a scum tactic: I know thanks to Transcend's old sig. Shadow also hadn't really started pressing Eager yet.

Get to know an Emerald! ~Likely to be off during evenings (Eastern Time)~It’s maaagic.i would unironically put mafia loyal vigs in games for the record - Acidphoenix