In the 200 some odd years (I'm not a star trek geek) between now and Kirk's birth, the coolest car is still a 60's muscle car? Come on, we have Skyline R34s and Ferraris and Porsches now that are cooler and better than the over-hyped Corvette. Or is the Federation really just the United States?

evilboyevil:In the 200 some odd years (I'm not a star trek geek) between now and Kirk's birth, the coolest car is still a 60's muscle car? Come on, we have Skyline R34s and Ferraris and Porsches now that are cooler and better than the over-hyped Corvette. Or is the Federation really just the United States?

The Nissan Skyline is not as ubiquitous as the Corvette, especially in America. The car's image is also tainted by the Fast and the Furious. Ferrari's are somewhat common in television and movies. Seeing Captain Kirk in the same car that Magnum or Crockett drove would be fairly silly. Porsche are notoriously difficult about their licensed properties.

If they used any Corvette like the Z06 or ZR1, fans would lynch everyone involved for product placement.

You do realize that the Z06 smacks the old zr-1 left right and Thursday while looking better and being a far superior product. The c4 body style is never going to be classic. It is, was and will always be bland. The new ZR-1 otoh, is magnificent.

Not necessarily. Spock lost his shiat a few times in the original series, what with him being half-human and all.

Besides, Vulcans do feel emotions. They feel them so violently and intensely, they have to practice that zen/buddhist/stoic emotional-suppression whatever-thingy they call "logic" (which always bugged me) to keep from losing their shiat and slaughtering a suburb over a stolen newspaper.

I always thought the whole Vulcan thing half-baked, though, but so much in Trek is I've learned to dismiss it.

Besides, quibbling over Trek details is like ... well, evidently admitting that I'm a bottom-feeding retard for even posting this.

SynthLord:Not necessarily. Spock lost his shiat a few times in the original series, what with him being half-human and all.

Besides, Vulcans do feel emotions. They feel them so violently and intensely, they have to practice that zen/buddhist/stoic emotional-suppression whatever-thingy they call "logic" (which always bugged me) to keep from losing their shiat and slaughtering a suburb over a stolen newspaper.

Right. The whole deal with Vulcans being "emotionless" is their society's response to their basic insanity (Pon Farr, however you spell it). They are just Romulans who somehow decided not to be Romulans.

But Spock especially, as he is half-human, is majorly screwed up. Remember him crying? Trying to have sex with Nurse Chapel?

evilboyevil:In the 200 some odd years (I'm not a star trek geek) between now and Kirk's birth, the coolest car is still a 60's muscle car? Come on, we have Skyline R34s and Ferraris and Porsches now that are cooler and better than the over-hyped Corvette. Or is the Federation really just the United States?

You are either under 30 years old, or European. Or both. In either case you're a classic example of someone who thinks they know what they're talking about, but really has absolutley no clue.

evilboyevil: In the 200 some odd years (I'm not a star trek geek) between now and Kirk's birth, the coolest car is still a 60's muscle car?... Or is the Federation really just the United States?

Agreed. People today who romaticize technology from 250 years ago are churning butter and dipping frakking candles, and I have to believe that Kirk tooling around in a 250 year old, wheeled, combustion-engine driven Chevy would feel about as primitive. Giving Kirk a fetish for "ancient" culture that lines up nicely with the audience's time-frame is cheesey. I hope Abrams can pull this off.

Every time I think I've got a sense of how dumb this film's gonna be, they dig a little deeper. After a steady decline through the aging franchise, should we really be surprised? And what would we expect from the director of M.I. III?

Yeah, of course, I'm going to see it, and they know that. But I'm feeling more and more than I'll hate it.