I have no idea what Strangelove and Topper are arguing about (I'm too lazy to read), but generally speaking, I don't think the Department of Player safety ever had intentions of following things in black and white......even if things are labelled in black and white.

They clearly operate with very large masses of shades of grey and intuition, and don't even really hide the fact that they don't care if it very clearly contradicts the black and white.

Don't get me wrong.......I dislike the Leafs as much as the next guy, but they should be a much stronger team once they get their centers back. Bolland is out with injury, while Bozak got re-injured if I recall correctly.

I have no idea what Strangelove and Topper are arguing about (I'm too lazy to read), but generally speaking, I don't think the Department of Player safety ever had intentions of following things in black and white......even if things are labelled in black and white.

They clearly operate with very large masses of shades of grey and intuition, and don't even really hide the fact that they don't care if it very clearly contradicts the black and white.

P.s. Go Seahawks!

The issue is the illusion (through their shiny video series) that it is black & white and they're following some kind of standard...a standard which is a moving target depending on the players involved. Continuing in the storied tradition of Campbell, Shanahan's decisions are sometimes fair, other times hypocritical, confusing, and at best, appear influenced.

That being said, the appeals process offers some fascinating transparency and should force the league to present a clear and fairly comprehensive case for some of its rulings.

Of course, until they can be forced to explain in a similar fashion why one play is a suspension and another is a slap on the wrist - or other mysteries which continue to elude fans - I don't think it'll help all that much in changing the perception of Shanahan or anyone else running the supplemental discipline show.

What the hell happened to Grabner? He had 2 goals in his first game this year, then not a single goal in the his 28 games since. He had 8 points in his first 7 games and then zero in the 22 games since. Also he has somehow not been a plus player (+/-) since the first 5 games of the season.

Then there's Hodgson. He's been a plus player twice this year (31 games, -9). He has 4 goals & 9 points (and -5) in 19 games since Vanek was traded , a 17 goal, 39 point pace. Since he doesn't bring anything else than offense, 40 points can't keep him in the lineup long can it?

These 2 were looking very good at times over the past 2 years, right now they really are looking like garbage.

alexBF wrote:What the hell happened to Grabner? He had 2 goals in his first game this year, then not a single goal in the his 28 games since. He had 8 points in his first 7 games and then zero in the 22 games since. Also he has somehow not been a plus player (+/-) since the first 5 games of the season.

Then there's Hodgson. He's been a plus player twice this year (31 games, -9). He has 4 goals & 9 points (and -5) in 19 games since Vanek was traded , a 17 goal, 39 point pace. Since he doesn't bring anything else than offense, 40 points can't keep him in the lineup long can it?

These 2 were looking very good at times over the past 2 years, right now they really are looking like garbage.