I'm sure you've heard this before, but 'forgotten sands' was the name for like 3 or 4 totally different games. I got the wii one (not sure why, i think it was because the 360/ps3 prince was an ugly fuck) and I was shocked by the fact that it was actually GOOD! Weird huh? Anyway, I suggest you think about playing it, it's not bad, although it does have a navi like djinn following you around the whole game.

lozfoe444:How often do you see character developement in games? It's important to any plot, but I never see it that much.

The main problem was that the Prince developed massively over the course of SoT - and in this they virtually wipe that clean and set him to how he was before.

The prince remembered everything, He didn't change to the way he was before. He could have allowed them to ransack the castle "For riches and glory" like when he first stole the dagger, but he deterred his father's army. He wasn't as cold and cynical as he was before.

The reason he's an emo-asshole in Warrior Within is due to the Dahaka cahsing him for so long

lozfoe444:How often do you see character developement in games? It's important to any plot, but I never see it that much.

The main problem was that the Prince developed massively over the course of SoT - and in this they virtually wipe that clean and set him to how he was before.

The prince remembered everything, He didn't change to the way he was before. He could have allowed them to ransack the castle "For riches and glory" like when he first stole the dagger, but he deterred his father's army. He wasn't as cold and cynical as he was before.

The reason he's an emo-asshole in Warrior Within is due to the Dahaka cahsing him for so long

He was never cold at the start of SoT, or particularly cynical. He was brash, full of pride and sarcastic. Basically, a teenage guy. When did I say he didn't remember anything?

Over the course of it he matured greatly, and he fell in love with Farah - something which should be visibly affecting him in this game. Even if they run with the idea that he's locked it up and ignoring it, there still needs to be cracks of it showing through. Christ, the pain of it should be ready to rip him apart!

Instead the Prince is a lot closer to himself in SoT during the earlier levels, albeit a little less arrogant. The fact that he doesn't change at all means that there's nothing much to like about him in this game though.

Again, his split from Farah that he had no control over (she was either dead if he didn't rewind with the hourglass, or she forgot who he was if he did) should be a major player in why he's got permanent sand in his vagina in WW, along with being hounded by the Dahaka.

Was the original Sands of Time better on some platforms than others? I played the Gamecube version and found it good, but very annoyingly flawed; yet everyone else on the planet equates it to the bible. What am I missing here?

The game was great fun, the fixed camera angles with no free-look were rape. I agree that Whirlwind and Stone Armour were the only worthwhile abilities. The game as a whole felt laggy as piss in zero-G and somehow got slightly smoother after I maxed the graphics... :\

As usual they made sure that controls and gameplay mechanics were new so that veterans of the series had some degree of challenge, short lived as it was...

The "Challenge" modes gave the game an extra half hour(though it still wound up shorter than PoP:SoT) and if you completed them early on, you wound up with several extra upgrades and never even had to dodge the bull bosses and there's even more early upgrades if you spend your Ubisoft points on them instead of Ezio costume...

Speaking of which, they should really have just used Steam Achievements and Steam Cloud instead of developing their own crap and making game loading take all day.

I don't mind the lack of talk of waterfall jump sections, as after the initial frustration, it was kinda fun.

So why, oh why, is there only ONE very FLIPPANT reference to Farah in this game? Something about being bossed about by women. HE LOVES HER FOR FUCK'S SAKE!

I somewhat doubt you've had many relationships in your life... lost love is not a permanant pain, infact anyone with a pair should be over it within a year. "The one that got away" is much more likely to have a lasting effect, especially if you continue to have contact with them...

So, uh, looking at that line at the start of the video, does that mean you're going to review No More Heroes 2 next week? ABOUT FRIGGIN' TIME! Also, I thought Portal was the greatest work of yadda yadda yadda to you, seeing as you said you had no criticism against it.

Haha, I was expecting something like this for a title which so far, I've only heard was "mediocre" and "meh". I like the Sands of Time quite a bit, too, but never got into any of the others for some reason. I probably won't get back into the series using this game, though.

I remember playing Sands Of Time back in 2004 and how awesome it was. But i never checked out Warrior Within or The Two Thrones, or that Cell shaded Prince Of Persia for that matter. So i kind of want to try out The Forgotten Sands, because i get the feeling it will have a lot of nostalgic value for me. At least thats what i get from watching the trailers.

So why, oh why, is there only ONE very FLIPPANT reference to Farah in this game? Something about being bossed about by women. HE LOVES HER FOR FUCK'S SAKE!

I somewhat doubt you've had many relationships in your life... lost love is not a permanant pain, infact anyone with a pair should be over it within a year. "The one that got away" is much more likely to have a lasting effect, especially if you continue to have contact with them...

Spoilers for TFS now.Also, the Prince still has Farah's medallion after SoT, so why doesn't he use that in TFS instead of having to be given the power by the genie?

Because in SoT his powers were from the Dagger of Time perhaps?

1) The game is set very close to the end of SoT - you don't go through an experience where you are in constant reliance on someone else, who then can't remember you because that didn't technically happen and then go "alright, she's probably the one that got away - better luck next time!"

2) Oh right, and where's the dagger in Warrior Within? Hmmm... I do wonder what he could have used to reverse time in Warrior Within...

Why, I do believe it was Farah's medallion which he acquired towards the end of SoT.