Unless US supports Israel they are going to be in huge trouble. They can annihilate one country. But many country's together is another issue.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25170384

You are correct, my friend. Israel's conventional power is very limited. It's real ace is their nukes. But using the nukes will generally destroy Israel along with the enemy target. Israel is a very small country, about the size of New Jersey.

Israel wouldn't have won the 1973 war without emergency U.S. help. It lost the last Lebanese war.

I'm not gloating or being gratuitously anti-Israel or anything, but simply looking at reality. I don't hate Israelis, Jews or Arabs and Muslims.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27807551

you are very wrong and absolutely do not understand the power of the Israeli war machine.

go study the 6 day war some more.

learn a little about moshe dayan. the lion of zion.

6 days is all it took

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26456664

My friend, if Israel were attacked by multiple neighbors, it would need outside help [American mostly, some Euro] or resort to nukes. It's conventional forces are not all they're cracked up to be and of course the country itself is quite small.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27807551

haha okay friend thats why during the 6 day war israel beat 3 enemys intent on destroying israel off of the map.

beat all three at the same time and took the land that they were shooting from.

THIS TIME ISRAEL WONT GIVE BACK THE SINAI AFTER THEY COMPLETELY ANNIHILATE EGYPT AND WHOEVER ELSE STICKS THEIR NOSE IN.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26456664

Unless US supports Israel they are going to be in huge trouble. They can annihilate one country. But many country's together is another issue.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25170384

You are correct, my friend. Israel's conventional power is very limited. It's real ace is their nukes. But using the nukes will generally destroy Israel along with the enemy target. Israel is a very small country, about the size of New Jersey.

Israel wouldn't have won the 1973 war without emergency U.S. help. It lost the last Lebanese war.

I'm not gloating or being gratuitously anti-Israel or anything, but simply looking at reality. I don't hate Israelis, Jews or Arabs and Muslims.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27807551

you are very wrong and absolutely do not understand the power of the Israeli war machine.

go study the 6 day war some more.

learn a little about moshe dayan. the lion of zion.

6 days is all it took

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26456664

It will depend on the number of foes. Up to 2-3 (egypt-hamas-Lebanon) then its OK But if will be involved Iran and or Syria well it is a different case.

Exactly, we're already doing that. We've got reports that indicate that Jordan is the key here.If so, it will be a big surprise for those that look at Gaza, Lebanon, Syria and Egypt - that at a first glance seems to be the most likely coming conflict zones(in the order they are written).

Exactly, we're already doing that. We've got reports that indicate that Jordan is the key here.If so, it will be a big surprise for those that look at Gaza, Lebanon, Syria and Egypt - that at a first glance seems to be the most likely coming conflict zones(in the order they are written).

This is the hidden work of Barack Hussein Obama. Obama used the CIA to ferment the revolutions in North-Africa and the Middle-East, and has supported in public all the time. And when Israel is finally attacked, he will do nothing. This was his plan all the time.

If there is Egyptian mobilization it could just as easily be in anticipation of driving back the hoards of refugees that could flood the Sinai from a full scale invasion of Gaza; i.e. they are there to shoot at Palestinians, not Israelis.

THIS TIME ISRAEL WONT GIVE BACK THE SINAI AFTER THEY COMPLETELY ANNIHILATE EGYPT AND WHOEVER ELSE STICKS THEIR NOSE IN.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26456664

Won't give back the Sinai?Do you and they think they can just keep shit?What a dumbass.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22596999

and they never gave back the golan heights but they did give the Sinai back to egypt after they whipped egypts ass badly all the way across the sinai.

israel only wants peace and they only want to live IN THE AREA THAT IS ISREAL.

THE DONT WANT TO CONQUER.

THEY DONT WANT WAR..

THEY WANT PEACE.

IF ANYONE WANTS TO FIGHT ISRAEL YOU WILL FACE THE ISRAELI WAR MACHINE BACKED BY THE UNITED STATES.

ISRAEL IS A BUNCH OF BADASSES.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26456664

Fuck you idiotic sad sick stupid americans you a bunch of cunts who the fuck is afraid of you bunch of prick you can't fight your way out of a paper bag all you american pricks can do is bomb innocent people you bunch of pricks plus your the laughing stock of the world because you idiots voted yet again for a dirty black smelly muzzie to last another 4 years now how fucking dull is that plus he.s a cock sucking queer and a non american yet you fuckrs voted for him again now thats fucking stupid now do me and everyone else a favour and FUCK OFF.By the way you prick we the british gave away israel to the scum called JEWISH SCUM the only good jew is a BURIED CUNT

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27808765

Ok I think you've had enough internets for today.

"Die, Die by my hand. I creep across the land, killing firstborn man."

Nazism in the Middle East started when the German Nazi Party founded an Egyptian section of the NSDAP/AO (the international Nazi organization). They distributed anti-Semitic literature and attempted to set up an Arabic press service. Initially these initiatives met with little success. The Nazis’ first effective step was to have the German textile industry threaten to boycott Egyptian cotton. The Egyptian government bowed to the Third Reich’s pressure and began oppose the anti-Nazi boycott of German goods, and promised to introduce measures against Egyptian Jews. The government press began to attack Jews as wreckers of the Egyptian economy. In secret meetings with the German embassy, the Egyptian government promised cooperation with the Nazis against Egyptian Jews. In return, the Reich opened a branch of the German News Agency in Cairo, and by 1938, German became the second largest importer of Egyptian goods.

The Egyptian public was impressed by the propaganda about Germany’s economic progress and Nazi mass marches. The pro-fascist Young Egypt movement was founded in 1933. They mimicked the Berlin rallies with paramilitary rallies in Cairo. Along with the Muslim Brotherhood, they came to dominate the street scene and became a third center of Egyptian politics, alongside parliament and the king.

The Cairo Nazi group adopted as a central strategic goal the creation of Jew-hatred in Egypt, in order to win popularity for Nazism, and to undermine the survival of Jews in the Middle East. In a report to the Third Reich’s Foreign Office, the Cairo Nazi group wrote that their campaigns “for the creation of an anti-Jewish mood among the Arab population” was meeting with small success, and that their new strategy would be to exploit the conflict between Arabs and Jews in Palestine, which must be “transplanted to Egypt.”

In April 1936, the Third Reich financed a series of anti-Jewish riots in Palestine and attacks on British targets, dubbed the Arab Revolt, working with their ally, the Mufti of Jerusalem. This murder of 400 Jews and thousands of Arabs met with complete success when the British government denied Jews their League of Nation’s mandated right of asylum in Palestine, in order to stop the riots and sabotage. When the Final Solution began to be implemented, Jews were trapped in Europe, as they no longer had their League of Nation’s ‘national home’ in Palestine. The violence against Jews in Palestine was also a pivotal success for the Third Reich in Egypt.

The Muslim Brotherhood received funds from the Third Reich via the German Legation in Cairo. This enabled them to set up a modern printing plant with 24 employees, and use the most current Nazi propaganda methods. In 1938, the mainstream Egyptian press still resisted participating in this anti-Jewish campaign, but slowly the Muslim Brotherhood, funded by the Third Reich and adopting Nazi techniques, profoundly increased anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism in Egypt, and promoted their fusion of fascism and Islam.

Intervention in Egypt by Nazi Germany increases

In 1937, German Foreign Minister von Neurath spelled out the Reich’s strategy in a memo, following the Peel Commission’s plan to create a Palestinian and Jewish state side by side: “German therefore has an interest in strengthening the Arab world as a counterweight against such a possible increase in power for world Jewry.” Arab countries, including Egypt, received German scholarships, German firms took in Arab apprentices, Arab party leaders were invited to Nuremberg party rallies, and military chiefs were invited to Wehrmacht manoevres. An Arab Club was established in Berlin.

The German Propaganda Ministry started Arab-language broadcasts of the Nazi message throughout the Middle East. The head of the German News Agency in Jerusalem, Dr. Franz Reichert, bribed journalists and co-opted newspapers with lucrative advertising contracts.

Adolf Eichman and another member of the SS Jewish Department traveled to the Middle East in September 1937 to distribute funds and work with Nazi collaborators. Baldur von Schirach, the leader of Hitler Youth, and William Canaris, the head of Abwehr (the counter-intelligence service) spent extended visits organizing Nazi collaboration. In April 1939, Otto von Hentig, the head of the Foreign Office’s Oriental Division, spent time in Egypt. The funds and contacts they established resulted in a spy network throughout the Middle East, and the recruitment of men for anti-Jewish violence in Palestine. German weapons were sent through secret channels, primarily for “killing off the Jewish homeland in Palestine.”

National Socialism was finding an enthusiastic audience among young Arab leaders throughout the Middle East at this time. Sami al-Jundi, a leader of the Syrian Ba’ath party said: “We were racists, admiring Nazism, read its books and the source of its thought.” These Arab intellectuals were not put off by the Aryan racial superiority credo of National Socialism; they translated it into their own terms, the superiority and world domination of Islam. They related better to the German idea of the Volk, based on language, blood and culture, than to modern nationalism.

In Egypt in 1933, Ahamd Husayn started the Young Egypt movement, which was modeled closely on the German Nazi party. A delegation went to Germany for the 1936 Nuremberg Nazi party rally. Husayn adopted Nazism’s rabid anti-Semitism, and taught his young followers that Jews were responsibility for cultural decadence and moral decay.

The Muslim Brotherhood was aligned with the Nazis in a variety of ways. They distributed Mein Kampf in Arabic. They collaborated with the Third Reich’s agents in Egypt and with Young Egypt’s leaders in planning an anti-British uprising to support the German war against Britain. The German secret services recruited members for the Muslim Brotherhood’s paramilitary wing. The Muslim Brotherhood did not follow National Socialism’s race policies, which were at odds with their concept of universal Islamic brotherhood. Hassan al-Banna did not hold up a non-Muslim, Adolf Hitler, as a model. He did praise and admire the elements of Nazism and fascism that were part of his own agenda: the suppression of women, militarism, state domination of the economy, world conquest through jihad and anti-Semitism.

The fascist and Nazi elements of the Muslim Brotherhood’s program included: total rejection of liberal democracy, subordination of the individual to the state, attacks on both capitalism and communism, male supremacy, sexual repression, celebration of the ‘art of death’ and obsessive hatred and murder of Jews. In the Egyptian context, the Muslim Brotherhood called for the dissolution of parliament, establishment of sharia law and the Caliphate, the abolition of interest and profit, the closing of the stock exchange, nationalization of the banks, land seizure, the glorification of factories and labor discipline, a strong industrial-military program, global military supremacy and Islamic world rule. The movement opposed the material seductions of the free enterprise system, which they labeled Jewish, and expressed this belief by burning cinemas, nightclubs and brothels.

1939 and later

From 1939 on, Nazi Germany’s Propaganda Ministry reached directly to Egyptians with their Arab language broadcasts, called the Zeesen service. Arabic was their top priority foreign language propaganda broadcasts, with a staff of 80. From 1941, they had daily broadcasts by the Nazi supporter Amin el-Husseini, the former Mufti of Jerusalem. Husseini fled to Berlin in 1941 after staging a pro-German putsch in Iraq, and was given a staff of 60 Arabs to serve the cause of the Third Reich. He had a great influence in Egypt, directly through his Nazi broadcasts, and through the support of the Muslim Brotherhood. At that time, Egyptians did not own radios in their own homes; tey listened in coffee house, bazaars and public squares. The Nazi radio station was the most popular, because of its mix of Koranic verses, Arabic music and antisemitic hate. Amin el-Husseini listed seven elements that he claimed Islam and Nazism shared: the leadership principle; obedience; the honor of dying in battle; the collective before the individual; motherhood as the role for women; glorification of work; and attitude toward Jews.

When the United States entered the war, he declared, “The Americans are the willing slaves of the Jews” and “as such the enemies of Islam and the Arabs.” He drafted as statement in 1940 for a German-Italian declaration that read: “Germany and Italy recognize the right of Arab countries to resolve the question of the Jewish elements…in the same way as the Jewish question has been resolved in Germany and Italy.” The Final Solution was underway at this time.

Since World War II research in Germany has continued in the archives of the Nazi regime, uncovering the centrality of anti-Semitism to National Socialism, and following the continuity of the Nazi regime and its influences beyond 1945 Europe. A telling example of this new research has uncovered the existence of plans for a Final Solution in the Middle East, beginning in Egypt. “Since the summer of 1942, an SS special unit was on standby in Athens, ready to implement the Shoah in Palestine in alliance with the Nazi’s Arab allies following an anticipated victory by Rommel in the North African theatre.”

Minutes from a meeting in Berlin between Hitler and Amin el-Husseini, the Mufti of Jerusalem, from the archives of the Third Reich, read: “ The Furhrer then made the following statement to the Mufti, … 1. He (the Führer) would carry on the battle to the total destruction of the Judeo-Communist empire in Europe 2. At some moment which was impossible to set exactly today but which in any event was not distant, the German armies would in the course of this struggle reach the southern exit of Caucasia 3. As soon as this had happened, the Führer would on his own give the Arab world the assurance that the hour of liberation had arrived. Germany’s objective would then be solely the destruction of the Jewish element residing in the Arab sphere under the protection of the British power….The moment that Germany’s tank divisions and air squadrons had made their appearance south of the Caucasus, the public appeal requested by the Grand Mufti could go out to the Arab world…The Grand Mufti replied…whether it would not be possible, secretly, at least, to enter into an agreement with Germany of the kind he had just outlined for the Führer. The Führer replied that he had just now given the Grand Mufti precisely that confidential declaration.”

In the course of “constant round-trips” between the Middle East and Berlin, the Mufti worked especially closely with the Muslim Brothers in Egypt. He reported directly to Hitler on his successes in uniting the Arab world in hatred of Jews. “I believe in the Muslim Brothers as they are the troops of God who shall defeat the troops of Satan,” he declared after the war. Al-Banna, the founder of the Muslim brotherhood began working with el-Husseini in 1927 The Muslim Brothers from Egypt intervened in the struggles in Palestine between the moderates, led by the Nashashibi clan and the Nazi-funded violence of el-Husseini, which reached a crescendo 1936-1939. There were many Palestinian Arabs who welcomed westernization, modernization and cooperation with their Jewish neighbors, and welcomed the Peel Commission plan to divide Palestine into two states, one Arab and one Jewish. This was not limited to an educated elite. Many village sheikhs in Judea and Galilee rejected el-Husseini’s anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism, and signed petitions supporting Jewish immigration to the country. They were motivated by economic benefits, and long, cordial relations with Jewish Palestinians.

It was in this context that the Egyptian al-Banna intervened. Within Egypt, they exploited the riots to expand their numbers through antisemitic propaganda. In Palestine, the Egyptian Muslim Brothers used the unrest to promote their Islamic fascist agenda. They blocked aid from Egypt reaching the Nashashibi clan. They called on their followers in Palestine ‘to slay all members and supporters of the Nashashibis in Allah’s name.” They supported the Mufti’s terror campaign and publicized it in Egypt as ‘a signal for jihad.”

In Cairo, the Brotherhood invited representatives from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait to a conference, called the Parliamentary Conference for Arab and Islamic Countries, to support the work of el-Husseini in Palestine. This conference was the first anti-Zionist initiative by the Moslem Brothers to receive Egyptian government support. The Brotherhood distributed Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elder of Zion. It was a milestone in the turning of the Egyptian government away from their policy of promoting tolerance for Jews in Egypt and for a Jewish homeland in Palestine. At the conference, Cairo threatened to ally with the Axis powers.

This conference was a turning point for British policy in promoting a two-state solution in Palestine, via the Peel Commission proposal. One month after the Cairo conference, in November 1938, the same month as Kristalnacht, the Peel proposal for a divided Palestine with a homeland for both Jews and Arabs was withdrawn. The Egyptian governments cooptation by the Islamic movement, and the Islamization of the Palestine conflict were seen as important threats to Britains’s good relations in the Arab world, and the stability of Britain’s source of oil. With the threat of German aggression looming on the horizon, despite the first round-up of Jews in Berlin into slave labor camps, the Jewish acceptance of ten percent of the original Palestinian Mandate as their homeland, Britain dropped the partition policy. It would not be renewed until 1947, by the United Nations, after the annihilation of Europe’s Jews was completed by the Third Reich. The Nazi-Arab alliance had succeeded, due in large measure to the work of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

The role of the Third Reich in instigating the riots in Palestine was well understood in Britain. Winston Churchill spoke in the House of Commons against the response to Arab/Nazi violence of closing the Palestinian Mandate to Jewish immigration. “So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population. …We are now asked to submit, and this is what rankles most with me, to an agitation which is fed with foreign money and ceaselessly inflamed by Nazi and by Fascist propaganda.”

The violence in Palestine in 1936-9 was directed even more strongly against Arab moderates. More Arabs were tortured and killed than British or Jewish Palestinians. Dress codes and sharia law was enforced by armed thugs, who roved the streets, kidnapping and murdering pro-western Palestinians. Middle-class professionals were shot through the head for not wearing the kaffiyeh, the Arab head scarf. They “were not always immediately murdered; sometimes they were kidnapped and taken to mountainous areas under rebel control. There they were thrown into pits infested with snakes and scorpions. After spending a few days there, the victims, if still alive, were brought before one of the rebel courts and usually sentenced to death, or as a special dispensation, to severe flogging. The terror was so strong that no one, including uluma and priests, dared to perform proper burial services.” The corpses of the victims would be left in the street for days, a shoe stuck in their mouth, as a lesson for any Arab who believed in tolerating a Jewish homeland.

This is very sad.

Quoting: Interesting but true! 1000901

um yeah, Patton and the war in North Africa for the oil fields. duh. thought this was common knowledge.