I am no architect, but there are some radical designs out there that are calling for green space in high rise residential buildings. I don't see why Winnipeg couldn't build one of these. It would be amazing.

I also believe that with every downtown should be accompanied by neighborhoods for those who want alternatives. But there comes a point where these neighbourhoods become so spread out and developed with such low density that it is of no benefit to the city to create them. These types of developments are also where the majority of -excuse the expression- nimby's live. They wan't a small town lifestyle, with big city amenities. Well, that is where I get confused. If people want large lots and quiet streets, then they should move to a small town that could benefit from low density growth Winnipeg has enough to sustain itself, and any more is nothing but a drain to its survival as a city. Unless planned properly and appropriately, in which case I wouldn't mind, but the cookie cutter neighbourhoods of Waverly West tell me the city planners are far from the ideology that we need to become more dense.

North of 49 this is strictly out of curiosity and I'm don't want to sound like I'm criticizing your choice to live out there but why made you choose living in one of these "new suburbs" opposed to a neighbourhood like wolesly, st boniface, or around corydon/osborne? where you can have a bit of both urban life, and amenities of the suburbs

strictly out of curiosity

Looking for a house right now and I can give you an answer that I'm sure is a reason many people choose it. Cost. You can get far more square footage (and a newer house less potential problems etc) by living in the suburbs vs living in a older neighbourhood closer to downtown. Personally i would love to live in river heights but I can't afford to bid on any houses listed in the area as they're being listed for 270 to 299 and selling for $350. You can build a new house in the suburbs for the same price and get 500 to 1000 more square feet. Cresentwood, st b, Osborne village are all the same. It's a trade off but you can get a bigger house and more space in the burbs. And it's not like Winnipeg is Toronto. The commute to work isnt gonna take you an hour and a half.

you and north of 49 both have logical explanations i can understand, i just don't like the fact that instead of invigorating older neighbourhoods we continue to create new ones pushing our boundaries further and further

regardless of the benefits people see with it, (especially families with young children) the model is not sustainable and i wish people would look more towards the future then present. There is physical and social aspects that continue to deteriorate as we expand.

that being said I'm a single young adult male, my preferences could drastically change with additions to my life, although i hope not

edit: lol hope my preferences don't change, I'm not critic of family life

you and north of 49 both have logical explanations i can understand, i just don't like the fact that instead of invigorating older neighbourhoods we continue to create new ones pushing our boundaries further and further

regardless of the benefits people see with it, (especially families with young children) the model is not sustainable and i wish people would look more towards the future then present. There is physical and social aspects that continue to deteriorate as we expand.

that being said I'm a single young adult male, my preferences could drastically change with additions to my life, although i hope not

See the interesting thing is my girlfriend and I are planning on getting married, and we both agree that living downtown is the best option. I grew up in the city, and don't regret it one bit. When my parents moved to small town in Ontario I ended up hating it, as I found out that the people my age who lived there were in a suburban bubble and the majority of them were spoiled and rude. I felt blessed to grow up in the city.

haha understand your point but don't say all burb kids are dicks lol remember they are the majority we are the minority

by additions i was referring more to kids, that might not affect your plans and might not affect mine but the cliche yet powerfully true revelation that kids change your life does play into this

wow i sound like my older sister now

I understand what you were saying. My point was that if my girlfriend and I decided to have kids, we would do so while living downtown. Downtown is not simply for a limited demographic. Every area has its faults, it's just a question of how you want to work around them.

What I meant about everyone seeming as if they were dicks was that when I was moved I was in culture shock because of the change. Every kid at my school had a certain mindset about living, and they seemed naive and uneducated on actual life lessons. But that was just my impression with the kids I interacted with. I made friends, and I don't judge any of them, they just have different morals then my friends in Winnipeg. This is comparing inner city kids to a town of 10 000.

Nothing bugged me more however then the kids in Ingersoll who grew up with parents making 100 000 plus a year and creating little small town gangs and being general jack asses because they thought they were hard. The funny thing is if they acted like they did in a real impoverished neighborhood, they wouldn't last long.

- Portage could use a few mid-rises for sure....
- Looks like jimj is joining the Winnipegger@Heart and GrecoRoman ban club! I'd say lboy, but he kinda joins using the same name as before pretty much...
- Pretty sure the Portage area of Wolseley could bulldoze a few one-floor shops and slap down some TOD or something...

I for one live in one of those "new suburbs". I long for the day when wifey and I can sell and move downtown near where I grew up. there are certain advantages in living in the burbs when it comes to raising up young children. I certainly miss walking to a neighborhood coffee shop for breakfast and just enjoying city life buzz by.

Why did you relocate to a "new suburb" then?

When I moved back to Winnipeg with my wife and infant son in tow we bought a house based on the walkable amenities nearby.

In our list we needed the following to be within walking distance of the house...

The Frasers Grove side of East Kildonan only a block from Kildonan Drive. We have one of the better elementary schools nearby, the Henderson library, Frasers Grove Park and Kildonan Drive for running and biking.

We are 2 blocks from Henderson and right on the 11/40/41 bus routes with a Sobeys directly across Henderson. There is a Starbucks and a Tim Hortons nearby along with other shops and restaurants.

It is also probably one of the nicest and most family friendly mature areas in the city.

Well I went for a ride on it just to see what it was like. It seemed too short. (obviously).

But I think the stops are too close to each other? I may not know much about rapid transit but I did ride the Vancouver SkyTrain. The stops are quite a distance between each other however here, as soon as we're out of a stop it's time to approach the next one.

I just hope that the second leg does not have that many stops in their old plans!

The Frasers Grove side of East Kildonan only a block from Kildonan Drive. We have one of the better elementary schools nearby, the Henderson library, Frasers Grove Park and Kildonan Drive for running and biking.

We are 2 blocks from Henderson and right on the 11/40/41 bus routes with a Sobeys directly across Henderson. There is a Starbucks and a Tim Hortons nearby along with other shops and restaurants.

It is also probably one of the nicest and most family friendly mature areas in the city.

No need to end up in Sage Creek or Harbourview to raise a family.

Man, I live surprisingly close to you, have probably crossed paths with you on one of my walks. Besides the Frasers Grove area there are numerous similar neighbourhoods sprinkled throughout Winnipeg.

Man, I live surprisingly close to you, have probably crossed paths with you on one of my walks. Besides the Frasers Grove area there are numerous similar neighbourhoods sprinkled throughout Winnipeg.

I was there too, just six years ago i lived on Dunrobin on the riverside of Henderson. Great area.

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Well I went for a ride on it just to see what it was like. It seemed too short. (obviously).

But I think the stops are too close to each other? I may not know much about rapid transit but I did ride the Vancouver SkyTrain. The stops are quite a distance between each other however here, as soon as we're out of a stop it's time to approach the next one.

I just hope that the second leg does not have that many stops in their old plans!

IMO, only Windemere, McGillivary, Plaza Drive and Bison should get stops. Would make it SO MUCH faster.

On a rapid transit system it likely will stop at every stop, simply because they're spaced further apart. Each stop has a large catchment area, and that means more people to serve. It isn't like regular bus service where the stops are every two or three blocks.

On a rapid transit system it likely will stop at every stop, simply because they're spaced further apart. Each stop has a large catchment area, and that means more people to serve. It isn't like regular bus service where the stops are every two or three blocks.

Maybe at rush hour toward the university, where virtually everyone is presumed to be heading for the terminal at U of M, you could have each bus stop at every second stop. Would seem to make sense.