Saturday, February 16, 2013

Justice For 10000 Killed In Gujarat 2002

Aha! Now that I have got your attention with the
10000-killed number I guess I can spin some more. That’s like pulling out a
number from the Worli Matka, isn’t it? For those who are new to the concept,
Worli Matka was a major gambling racket operated by Ratan Khatri in
Worli, Mumbai. Every evening Khatri would draw two sets of lucky cards from the
pack. People who bet money on cards would either lose or lose. That’s true,
people mostly lost and Khatri made a lot of money. There’s even a fun site
called Matka.Com that educates people on the concept without money being
involved. But since Khatri closed down a long time ago our media and others
have carried forward his gambling concept. This is especially true for the
number of Muslims killed in Gujarat 2002 riots. You must have heard numbers
like 5000, 3000, 2000 while the official number was 1044 killed and around 223
missing. So, apart from the media, the latest one to use Matka figures and
Matka logic is none other Justice
Markandeya Katju (MK).

By now most of us have heard of MK’s opinions on
almost everything under Pluto. And everyone is tired. So thankfully, like
Aaakar Patel and Ram Guha, MK has chosen to “Focus”. And lately his focus is
none other than Narendra Modi. He
writes in the The Hindu an article
called “All the perfumes of Arabia”
on February 15. Now, I’m one of those who Katju categorises under 90% fools or
idiots so I can’t figure out that title except that it must have to do with
some fairy tales we usually associate with Arabian Nights. This time, it is
nice little fairy tales about Narendra Modi. There is nothing new in what MK
writes. So we will skip the usual rants about Modi and Gujarat and touch upon
anything that sounds different. Like Shekhar Gupta who often runs into and
chats with people at airports, railway stations and flights, MK starts with a
conversation on a flight. Imagine the misfortune of his co-passenger. Let’s
read the rant (edited excerpts in blue):

I was flying from Delhi to
Bhopal recently. Sitting beside me was a Gujarati businessman. I asked him his
opinion of Mr. Modi. He was all praise for him. I interjected and asked him
about the killing of nearly 2,000 Muslims in 2002 in Gujarat. He replied that
Muslims were always creating problems in Gujarat, but after 2002 they have been
put in their place and there is peace since then in the State. I told him this
is the peace of the graveyard, and peace can never last long unless it is
coupled with justice. At this remark he took offence and changed his seat on
the plane. Oh there you are! That Matka figure of 2000 comes in again.
I’d have to say this co-passenger was a lucky guy indeed. He could get just get
up and walk away to another seat. What if Katju moved in as my neighbour?
Frankly, given his continuous outrage on everything and since the 90% can’t
live with the 10%, I would definitely considering moving to a new residence
which is far more difficult than changing seats on a plane. So MK is so
obsessed he probably goes around asking every Gujju he runs into about Modi and
then pounds him with his philosophy of justice. Just the other day I ran into a
Supreme Court lawyer and asked him his opinion of Katju and he said… No, never
mind! I can’t print that.

To call the killings of
Muslims in 2002 a spontaneous reaction reminds one of Kristallnacht in Germany
in November 1938, when the entire Jewish community in Germany was attacked,
many killed, their synagogues burnt, shops vandalised after a German diplomat
in Paris was shot dead by a Jewish youth whose family had been persecuted by
the Nazis. It was claimed by the Nazi government that this was only a
‘spontaneous’ reaction, but in fact it was planned and executed by the Nazi
authorities using fanatic mobs. This is probably the biggest blunder
that MK has so far committed in print. The stupid analogy he draws seems to
have been totally lost in his prejudiced head and thoughts. The closest that comes to the Nazi reaction
he quotes for one single individual being killed is not Gujarat but Indira
Gandhi. Because her Sikh guards killed IndiraG, thousands of Sikhs were
brutally killed, homes burnt and families destroyed. I suppose Katju probably
thinks the killing of one individual (IndiraG) caused a “spontaneous” reaction
but burning and killing of 59 people in a train brought about a “planned”
reaction. Sheer nonsense as his own example proves. If we apply his Nazi logic
at all then it is the IndiraG murder that caused the Nazi reaction he talks
about.

In terms of historical
evolution, India is broadly a country of immigrants and consequently, it is a
land of tremendous diversity. Hence, the only policy which can hold it together
and put it on the path of progress is secularism — equal respect and treatment
to all communities and sects. This was the policy of the great Emperor Akbar,
which was followed by our founding fathers (Pandit Nehru and his colleagues)
who gave us a secular Constitution. This is a pet theory of MK; India
being a country of immigrants. Yeah right, most people know I am from Honduras.
There’s no problem with the diversity, it existed even before and will exist
after MK. The truth is, historically some immigrants came as refugees some came
as invaders. Some invaders carried swords and some carried guns. Surely, the
immigrants of the latter category didn’t come here singing “Kaho
naa pyaar hai” did they? As for Nehru’s vision – China, NAM, Kashmir,
USSR... less said the better. And no, the founding fathers (if they can be
called that for an ancient country) didn’t insert the word “secular” into the
constitution. It was inserted by IndiraG during Emergency. The secularism
practiced by Nehru’s party is now prominent as pseudo-secularism.

So what’s new about the Gujarat and Modi story that
is now floating in the media? First the media mafia started with the story of
“Mass murderer, Hitler, Nazi, Fascist, Hero of Hatred, Maut Ka Saudagar” and FAILED. The more they ranted, the more
the people backed Modi. Then having failed with that they showered scorn on
Gujarat’s economic progress under Modi. They abused economic data to manipulate
reports and show a bad picture. FAILED!
Left with nothing, they have now come up with one single word mantra: “Malnutrition”. As MK says:

Questionable progress:
Today, 48 per cent of Gujarati children are malnourished, which is a higher
rate of malnourishment than the national average.

Like a box
of parrots, Aakar Patel, Ram Guha, others and now MK, everyone in the media lately
talks about “Malnutrition” in Gujarat. Even students who are called for
debates are tutored to talk of “Malnutrition” in Gujarat. Funny huh?
Malnutrition is a national problem and so too in Gujarat, maybe across the
world in some countries. But where the other tags failed they are now into the
“Malnutrition” song and dance routine. Here’s how their mundane rant has become
and how foolish it really sounds:

Great roads in Gujarat: Okay, but what
about malnutrition?

Great infrastructure in Gujarat: Okay,
butwhat about malnutrition?

24X7 Power supply: Okay, but what
about malnutrition?

Water in Sabarmati: Okay, but what
about malnutrition?

Special incentives for girls: Okay, okay,
but what about malnutrition?

Crores of investments: Yeah alright,
butwhat about malnutrition?

Women can move safely: Who cares? What
about malnutrition?

Modi is not corrupt & incorruptible: Corruption
is normal,what about malnutrition?

Sex-determination tests banned: Minor
issue, what about malnutrition?

GDP growth over national average: Fine,
fine, what about malnutrition?

DoubleDigit Agri growth for years: See
the “larger” picture,what about malnutrition?

So, now that everything else has failed the last
straw to clutch is the magic word called malnutrition. And I promise you, you
will hear this word over and over again in the next one year. I can understand
the agenda of the media mafia but considering MK is a lawman one would have
expected a more logical and sensible approach with his criticism. Nothing like
that! He too sounds like a parrot. So whether it’s 2000 or 3000 or 5000 killed
as these magicians keep pulling out from their hats, what’s wrong if I pull out
a Matka figure of 10000? For that matter, what’s wrong if I pulled out a figure
of 1 lakh even? There are some
newspapers and TV channels who are as good as a Matka. They provide the
platform for the Matka logic and some writers are the cards.

119 comments
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Good one. The good thing about Justice Katju he does not attempt to cloak his prejudice. It is all out in the open. Not a singe article or post from him ever criticises anything about the central government or UPA. For him corruption is not an issue; rape is not an issue,.....and he has many admirers who applaud him for that. No wonder he says 90 % Indians are idiots.

You see, he is a true secular. He would have made the death of 59 karsevaks in Godhra an issue if Muslims had burned them, but as brother judge Banerji has proved beyond any doubt, these idiots calling themselves Rambhakts shut themselves up in the bogey, S-6 and committed mass suicide by exploding petrol stoves.

Similarly, the 3 lac Kashmiri pandits' leaving the valley in a hurry would have been an issue for him if the Muslim jihadis baying for Nizam-e-mustafa had driven them out. But, you see, these bloody, stupid pandits were bitten, en masse by the migration bug. Is India not a country of immigrants? Pandit Katju himself says so. So what if the pandits moved, peacefully, from Kashmir to the jhuggies and jhompdies of Jammu, Delhi and elsewhere?

Almost anyone higher up in GOI is somewhat compromised. Even if they are honest they would have been in the chain when it was being greased. As a result, the durbar now has an entire set of fall-guys available.

If they do not toe the boat for the durbar, the durbar will send CBI, SIT, ED, IT & assorted other arms of the state after them. If they toe the boat they remain in the good books of the durbar.

Like the USN's Carrier Battle Group (CBVG), these compromised darbaris provide a shield for the aircraft-carrier (CV) . If some scam tries to weaken the CBVG, the darbaris will either defend them tooth & nail, or take one for the CV, and do some jail-time. But the Carrier sails on.

I doubt how could Katju totally blind even though justice delivered and still delivering without any interruption from Gujrat Govt... I found him very funny when he compares Modi with Shivraj Singh, He was praising Shivraj Singh for attending some Urdu poetry function and staying more than 15 minutes as Shivraj had promised he won't be stay beyond 15 minutes and extended his stay and enjoyed Urdu poetry. He judge the secular credentials of any CM by just merely attending some Urdu Poetry Function. What can we expect from him for Gujrat especially.... I really feel very much disgusting that nowadays it has become trend of Hating Hindu's to establish Secularism...

If he was still a supreme court judge dealing in some case related to Gujarat and at the same time carrying such an anti-Modi bias, what kind of justice he would have given. Now I get an idea why poor Modi lose all his cases in court. Another question is why do judges/babus and IPS are given key government postings just after their retirement (justice Hegde went after Yeddy with no comments on SM Krishna,Moily etc.).

@terry john I completely agree with you.Hegde was following the instructions from his "manasa pita" Advani when he went after Yeddi.It was an insider job that brought Yeddi down.The present so called "High Command" of BJP is Khangress - Team B that's all.

brilliant and terrific response to the senseless article by Katju in TheHindu, clearly showed his hatred towards NaMo for no reason, Ravinar have you noticed one thing, the people who constantly insult and abuse Modi in public forums, for example, Javed Akhtar, Shabana Azmi, Katju, barking Dog Manish Tewari, Modi obsessed MANIAC Aakar Patel, to name a few, all these names which i have mentioned above, not once have i heard NaMo saying anything against them or even unknowingly ever make a passing remark on these people, still these people say all kind of dirty things about Modi with no proof and substance, its like they being unleashed from CAGE to do only one task day and night speak only about Modi and that too dirty and abusive language, i hope majority of INDIANS realise the conspiracy around targeting Modi, i hope GOD gives more strength to NaMo to survive these attacks and we Indians strongly stand behind NaMo, JAI HIND

Strength of Prayers & Hopes of entire Nationalist of Bharat is surrounding NaMo! That is his Protection Shield- Suraksha Kavach!!! Lets there be entire fauj of IMPOTENT-Anti National-Pseudo Secular-Inteligents against him, His Ahswamedh Horse will not be stopped now.....Lekin Yaar what about malnutrition? :))

Mr. Katju was a supreme court judge?!! He is an unabashed pseudosecular propagandist. As a chairman, press council of india; he diminishes this post as well by his senile and comical utterances from time to time. Too eager and vain enough to believe that he is the keeper of the society's morals and conscience! A very pompous person!

Mr. Katju was a supreme court judge?!! He is an unabashed pseudosecular propagandist. As a chairman, press council of india; he diminishes this post as well by his senile and comical utterances from time to time. Too eager and vain enough to believe that he is the keeper of the society's morals and conscience! A very pompous person!

I've always said this: Katju is a crazy cashew-nut and is given too much media space to air his crazier views, by virtue of his current and previous position. All the rubbish he has been spouting over the past couple of years would have ended a political career, even in India. Or maybe not.

But he seems to be angling for a new government paid job after the PCI stint is done. The best way to earn that, apart from more media exposure by our beloved channels, is to bash Modi.

He should be made Defence Minister. And then:

"90% of the tanks in the army are idiots".

Nations won't dare get into a war with a country that has a lunatic for a Defence Minister. Arms expenditure reduced!

Like Gujarat, whole India needs a Modi, as guji businessman rightly said, Muslims were causing problems before Godhra and after godra it was most peaceful,secure place in India. No wonder why Media go back 10 years time and again, as there is no other issue which they can go ahead with...unlike congress which give them new opportunity every now and then, but there too instead of targeting the govt. some media is busy in getting govt. out of that mess. media is Most influential entity in India and apart from few educated and updated people ( who are very less in nos) rest of the Indians get fooled by this crooks in media..

I am saying this again, but we educated Indians ( Young & Old) must form an assembly-wise local groups throughout India. We can surely create an Impact amongst common citizens of this country during elections by explaining them the devious & dubious Media-Congress nexus against Modi. Even if we are able to bring 1% new voters to vote, it can swing a few dozen lok-sabha seats. Atleast I am going to do that in my locality by taking a 1 month paid leave from my work before elections. Its now or never guys. Jai Hind!

I often feel that our 'seculars' are actually religious transsexuals who secretly yearn to dress up in a Hijab and be dominated by Muslims men. This is what is going to happen if Hindus get sidelined. It if foolish to believe that we can have insulated lives because we are 'educated' and enjoy a 'middle class' existence. The walls that separate us from anarchy are too flimsy and the savages are just across the gates.

VERY GOOD IDEA MR ABHIJEET, I AM ALSO OF SAME OPINION AND WE MUST TRY THIS AT ANY COST . INDIA IS OUR MOTHERLAND AND WE MUST TAKE UP RESPONSIBILITY TO AWAKE FELLOW CITIZENS TO STOP RAPE AND LOOT OF OUR MOTHERLAND AND ALSO PUNISH GUILTY OF RAPING AND LOOTING. Its now or never guys-rightly said .

@abhijeet, @ravindra Singh God bless you and may your ilk grow and this becomes contagious .Those who love our motherland have to strive to encourage the right change This is the only way to go. Likeminded people need to network , collaborate .

Is Aakar Patel the same who was talking about why liquor is banned in gujrat? I saw him first time on TV and my impression was that he's an idiot. About Katju, he's digging his own grave. About Nehru, the less we talk is good. I don't want someone telling me that his/her legal team will contact me. :)

But the article is spot on. More media talks about Modi, they give him more free publicity. The raise more questions, but in the end public start asking relevant questions which makes media uncomfortable. I just want to see that how long will this media save 'G' family. And with 'G' i'm not cursing at all ;)

Ravinar. Good point about Nazi congruence with Sikh riots. In the backdrop of Afzal Guru's hanging and the subsequent trial by media and subjugation of the authority of Supreme Court and the judicial system of India, I thought at least Mr. Katju would have some respect for the parliament and the reply in Rajya Sabha by Congress about the the dead(790 muslims, 254 hindus). In this age of information, how difficult can it really be to go to Wikipedia. However, his trust not on Rajya Sabha declaration says a sorry state for the people encumbered in judicial system.As far as the state complicity and lack of police forces go, if we go a little into history we will come to know how devastating a riot can be without any forces. On 'Direct Action Day' on 16th august 1946 with negligent police force in Calcutta, 4000 people died within 72 hours. The Brits were in a hurry to leave the country. And riots were well and truly without any force of law on land controlling it. Assuming 'secular' Brits, it also shows how terribly difficult it can be to control a riot. And how devastating a riot without control can be.Gujarat riots were simmering for months. Going by the wanton orgy exemplified by the Calcutta riots, if there was no state control, or rather state complicity, we would have the shame of biggest ethnic cleansing in world in our hands.However, given 194 of 254 hindus died of police firings and 59 in Godhra train mishap, one has to give that riots post Godhra were Hindu only mobs on a killing spree. That Muslims by and large post Godhra were not part of ideology behind Godhra and in spite of severe instigation, never were the aggressor.

They sing the same song and inadvertently they would write: Gujarati Children Best Nourished in Asia: See the “larger” picture, what about malnutrition?

And Katju should have been feeding Chickens in some Poultry farm.

I was also discussing with a Retired Chief Justice in a Media School Innaugural function (Not throwing my weight, I really did. LOL!) During the refreshment break time, I mentioned Katju and he simply said - beneath me to discuss about Brother Judge even if he is most Incompetent & "Inconsistent (I guess this word was used in the sense that he has gone nuts)"

Land of migrants - He was sired by Amerigo Vezpuzzi? and unlike Americans/Australians (he forgot that) we are the oldest civilization. Realize now that "Senility" is a curse to the humankind (especially for those who are not struck by it).

At the risk of sounding repititive, Brilliant once again :-) Namaskars

I guess MK is just doing what most babus (that includes honourable justices in most temple of justices) in our country do - Tow(e) the government of the day and be grateful for the post thrown at them post retirement and promotions while in "service", not very unlike the MSM. This mad clamouring for posts,awards,RS seats, flats allotment,and other means of maal has made our country unbearable for the upright few.

I think Katju is quite crazy. Actually judges are expected to be balanced, in service and out of service. But he seems to carry several biases. I wonder whether there will be a move to have a relook at some of his judgements! We being a nation of immigrants is the strangest statement. If ur from Honduras, I'm from Hinduras :-))

@mediacrooks .. "Just the other day I ran into a Supreme Court lawyer and asked him his opinion of Katju and he said… No, never mind! I can’t print that."Come on yaar.. this is pondering me.. plss lets know what's his opinion.. :D

God! Now you keep pulling out these wonderful pieces out of the sane/balanced brain.Wow!! So much for the guy who speaks about self-regulation:( Was at Moneylife seminar yestrday and I find myself telling my neighbours sitting there to read your articles to know facts.If MK thinks only he can strike conversations with neighbour,let him know there are innumerable who can do the same and present facts rather than rhetoric lies!!!

We can never forget Katju. He was the man who set free the Marxist killer gang who barged into a school classroom and murdered the teacher right in front of the eyes of the children. The incident took place on December 1 , 1999 at East Mokeri School in the Killing fields of Kannur, Kerala. The man who was murdered : Jayakrishnan Master , BJP Yuva Morcha leader. The lower courts, including the high court of Kerala had sentenced all six killers to death and Katju set them free. THE KILLERS WERE GIVEN A PUBLIC RECEPTION BY THE CPM AT THE SAME SCHOOL WHERE THEY HAD KILLED THE BJP LEADER.

Even the malnutrition claim is overhyped. I read somewhere that many vegetarians in Gujarat are wrongly branded as malnutritioned. Those who did such surveys must have had biased opinion against Vegetarianism.

MK is an average Indian. When you have no other designated work to do, you will pry on your neighbours compound and even if you do not see anything there, you start imagining things, say that his wife is having an affair with mr. so and so like. Here the problem could have been solved if, MK do some compulsory toiling work like masonary work in a constructions site or bringing water in a drought prone area or cleaning the streets etc.etc. Since he is not fully engaged in any constructive work, it is our folly to see his blabberings often. And the statistics of the death in 2002 Gujarat riots, as MK to count the figures of Hindu massacres since the advent of M.Gazni, Baber, and co.

Morons don't understand or they like to ignore that malnutrition in Gujarat has to do with the state largely being vegetarian state where people don't consume diverse veg sources full of vitamins, minerals and all.

For ex, spinach is high in iron. How many Gujaratis eat spinach and how many days ? So Iron deficiency is very normal in Gujaratis. Omega3 which is very imp fatty acid for brain development. Veg source of omega3 is seaweed, sea plant, flex seed... How many Gujaratis eat these sources ? Vitamin B complex(B1, B2, B6, B12) which is very imp for blood cell development has rare veg sources like cheese, soy milk, yeast, sea vegetables. How many Gujaratis eat these ? All these are easily available in meat, eggs, seafood.

That is the reason most Gujaratis are malnourished not because they don't have money but because they are not well informed when it comes to veg food.

All you Hindutva right wingers can rant ll that you want, but you have no answers to this unexceptionable argument from the revered Katju:

" I told him this is the peace of the graveyard, and peace can never last long unless it is coupled with justice. At this remark he took offence and changed his seat on the plane. The truth today is that Muslims in Gujarat are terrorised and afraid that if they speak out against the horrors of 2002 they may be attacked and victimised."

For the last 11 years, the poor muslims have been so terrorized by the riots and the biased Modi administration that they have not dared to burn even a single Hindu, which is of course the basic human right of every peace loving Muslim and a religious duty guaranteed by our secular polity. As a staunch secularist, I will continue to protest this grave atrocity until my death - burnt to death, that is.

As HH Katju rightly says, this is all peace of the graveyard. The real justice will arrive only that day when our Muslim brothers are allowed to burn Hindus without fear of retribution - and it is not as if this is something new, they have been practicing this for over a millennium now. This is the core idea behind the great modern, liberal and humane ideology of secularism. Barbaric, ill-fed and malnourished Hindutvavadis obviously cant understand these things.

So mister SAI - peace of graveyard - with that logic - bhaichara with muslims - living with muslims - giving equal position to them - and all this with the price of our men killed/beheaded/genocide/women raped/slaved in past 1000 years during muslims rules

Modi has to be watched for the next few years. but i agree with katju when he says development has to include the standard of living of the populace. i do not want to comment on 2002, because riots and killings happen under every administration, the only groups to be blamed are right wing extremists of every religion. if modi is able to take care of the poor in his state like he claims and what sunil alagh thinks modi will do, then definitely he is best suited for the post of PM. For that he has to produce results, evidence, which i think modi will do, and that will shut everyone up. If in a country where farmer suicides are at the rate of 1 every 30 mins, he manages to change the scenario, then he will be unstoppable. almost all administrations since 91' in the name of capitalism have screwed the poor. When modi changes that then no one can touch him. that in my estimate will take some time. if not 2014, probably in 2019. till then enjoy the scams, rubbish media and vote bank politics.

I choose to not wait till 2019. Our nation is our mother & I cannot allow myself to play neutral & be part to the crime of raping my mother. Some wise guy said " The only right time to be doing something you love is NOW". Their was a amazing dialogue in film Sholay " Loha garam hai mar do hatoda". Only fence sitters can wait & wait & wait till ripe moment when they will have it easiest. Believe me such moments never come !

Agree completely with Dinga. Modi has to give clear evidence that he is a good administrator. Yes, he has proved in Gujarat that he can provide good governance, though as the honorable justice says, malnutrition is worse than Somalia. But let us cut him some slack. My bigger problem is that Gujarat is not India. Therefore, I suggest that Modi prove his capability to rule India by becoming the CM of each Indian major state for a couple of years and prove that he is equally good in differing socio-political scenarios. Also, he must rule at least half the states as part of an alliance to prove that he is good at handling alliance politics. After this, we might consider him for the top post, of course, provided Mal-nutrition in Gujarat by that point gets close to secular standards - that is non-negotiable.

Meanwhile, we have Rahul Baba. He does not have any record of governing even a municipality. But that is a minor flaw - he comes from the Great Dynasty which has ruled this vast and complex country so brilliantly for most of the last 6 decades. Good Governance is in his genes. As even the great Katju - who precisely calculated that 90% of Indians are fools - himself will agree, trusting the Dynasty is probably the only thing this foolish country has been smart about. I particularly like the way he has very cleverly hidden his leadership skills for such a long time. He is of course saving it all up for his stint as PM - brilliant, no? It is not clear what exactly Rahul's economic and development philosophy, you say? As a Katju fan, I have simple, logical answer to that. Go check Gujarat's ml-nutrition levels, its worse than Somalia.

Please dont get me wrong sai. but rahul is not the answer at all. please watch the above video. i dont think good governance is in his genes or his brain. And i said 2019 not because i have something against modi, but simply because realistically its not possible. BJP will not get such a majority that they can choose whoever they want. realistically speaking. In a coalition modi wont get the liking of other coalition partners with their eye on the centre. thats y i said its not enough. modi will have to do more to get the entire nation's attention, not just the people on the net

Katju wanted fawning admirers on Twitter. But he got a solid kick on his butt when he argued that Tipu was a secular patriot. For a fact I know that Tipu killed around 800 people from my community on one Deepavali day. The link to this is part of this http://blogs.ivarta.com/CAG-Diva-wins-IMCs-Tippu-Sultan-Genocide-Award/blog-213.htm . To come to the point MK ran away from the battlefield and chose to rant like the Burkhas and Sagarikas of the world about how IHs have taken over the net.

In this forum all are speaking about MK. But, what about that newspaper which has only " Hindu" in its name and gives space to columnists who spew venom against Hindus. Some days back there was a column by our renowned distortionist Ramachandra Guha discounting the whole of the Gujarat Miracle as a farce. Both Vardhabhai and his mentor goon N Ram are biased and they spew venom against Modi in particular and Hindus at large.

Katju is good for comedy. He provides great lolz once a fortnight. Justice Markandeya Katju has no credibility, this is the moron that pardoned killers in Kerala from deathrow who were then released from prison and now live a comfy life.

Katju, where is you morale compass, where is your justice in Kerala? where is your sanity?

Good show sir...with you on his side NAMO needs not worry about his ascent to the throne...by the way I wish to address all those who visit this blog and are the suppoters of NAMO for PM....When confronted with the question...

"I interjected and asked him about the killing of nearly 2,000 Muslims in 2002 in Gujarat."

The reply should not be om the lines of.....

"He replied that Muslims were always creating problems in Gujarat, but after 2002 they have been put in their place and there is peace since then in the State."

But a standard uniform line that the supreme court monitored SIT investigated and found Modi was not involved in the riots of 2002....Simple....then just as they use ,malnutrition we should use this and nobody would have have a reason to write such articles

This joker lives in an illusory world.......invents/vouches fake theories eg...ARYAN INVASION THEORY,unification of india and pakistan, a sacrosanct stats on intelligence of an avg indian.....I think he is targetting RS after this assignment

Excellent as always!!! I am hopeful that Mr Katju will read this and try to rectify himself!!! Certainly he is not among 90% like us! He is from those 10%!!As honourable #CAG :Vinod Rai pointed out "Should ethics be applied subjectively/selectively" ?If so who determines the purpose:1)The justification and 2) the Quantum.

Wish Mr Katju understand even if he is incompetent and inconsistent as mentioned by fellow friend.

Really, I haven't seen a bigger FRAUD in all my life than this KATJU, a pompous ass and self-proclaimed expert on all kinds of matters, from national policy, to economics, to history, to science, to Jodie Foster's lesbianism, to this, to that, and finally to Gujarat 2002 (but of course, you see, EVERYBODY from folk dancers to pseudo-activists, and from Delhi Durbar journalists to Bollywood celebs, is an expert on Gujarat 2002 -- it is only the poor Supreme Court of India that is NOT an expert on Gujarat 2002, and therefore made the "inexcusable mistake" of exonerating Narendra Modi of all charges, LOL!).

Coming back to Katju, there must be a law to ban govt-appointed sinecure positions for retired civil servants immediately after retirement ... otherwise we will continue to suffer dynasty sycophants and incompetents like Katju becoming PCI chairmen, or state governors, or heads of this commission or that committee, etc.

BTW, it is interesting how MArkandey KATju anagrams to ... MATKA!!!

PS: I think MATKA became SC judge because of his family contacts. He belongs to same Allahabad-based Kashmiri Pandit clan as Jawaharlal Nehru family (today's Nehru-Maino dynasty). MATKA's grandfather Kailashnath Katju was also a Congress politician who was made CM of Madhya Pradesh after independence by Nehru. MATKA's cousin Vivek Katju has been made Indian ambassador to various countries by Congress govt. They seem to have lived their lives by being incompetent sycophants of the Congress Nehru dynasty and loyal courtiers of the Durbar Establishment.

Such people demonstrate the depth to which the tentacles of the Congress party and Nehru dynasty have entrenched themselves in all aspects of Indian society -- from politicians to civil servants and bureaucracy, from armed forces to intellectuals and intelligentsia, and from historians to journalists and mainstream media.

very well said "I think MATKA became SC judge because of his family contacts. He belongs to same Allahabad-based Kashmiri Pandit clan as Jawaharlal Nehru family (today's Nehru-Maino dynasty). MATKA's grandfather Kailashnath Katju was also a Congress politician who was made CM of Madhya Pradesh after independence by Nehru. MATKA's cousin Vivek Katju has been made Indian ambassador to various countries by Congress govt. They seem to have lived their lives by being incompetent sycophants of the Congress Nehru dynasty and loyal courtiers of the Durbar Establishment".

that this moron katju was actually a judge of the supreme court is frightening.he could well have been a judge during the french revolution who sent people off to the guillotine on a whim and a fancy.his consistently moronic statements make me wonder at his eminent idiocy.

can a slimy guy like mani shankar aiyer ever win an election? he can only get into parliament by a back door rajya sabha entry. this is why he dances to the tune of WTE ( waitress turned empress )and AKD ( kkal ka dushman )

I was in Ahmedabad during 1986-88 and what I am narrating is my personal experience. I was in the old city shopping for goods one evening when I heard cricket commentary blaring from transistors from most of the shops there. I knew that India was not playing anyone then and was quite perplexed by the enthusiasm for cricket in the area till I realised that Pakistan was playing England! A few days later, there was a newspaper article that 2 people had died in Ahmedabad due to disturbances when England beat Pakistan in the one-dayers of the same series. And India was not even involved! I always knew that Ahmedabad was a ticking time bomb and unfortunately the trigger was Godhra when NaMO was ruling. I am sure that if Congress was ruling Gujarat at that time, the outcome would have been the same, if not worse. What happened in Godhra was wrong and what happened thereafter was also wrong, but to pin the blame on NaMo is to ignore the non-mainstreaming of the Muslim community for petty political gains by the Congress over decades.

While I believe that most Muslims are decent folks, the appeasement of the community over time by Congress (without any real concern for them and with evil-intentioned vote-bank exploitation in mind) has ensured the radicalisation of some sections of the community. The molotov cocktail brewed by radicalisation, illegal-but-deliberately-legalised immigration, false propaganda of majority communalism will ensure that India will remain a tinder-box unless we all wake up to the machinations of the Congress and the MSM and work towards a resounding defeat of the party in the next elections. Congress has to go along with the family. The family is a curse on this country and the faster we do something about it, the better.

Good one as expected! But what I do not understand is why are these people absolutely silent on mass murders and exodus of lacs Kashmiri Pandits! They are only concerned about hundreds or even say a few thousands of Muslims, but not about Hindus and temples being broken for past 30 years in Kashmir!

Really ...I impress Read this Article 2 Time and Want Thankyou For Describing This Fool Person MK...Many Time I See This Person On Tv Channal On Prime Time Debate....Some People Did Not Do Difference Between Nationalism And Secularism.....Hindu Butchered In Westbangal Every Day ..Hindu Butchered in Aasam And Kashmir...When where u go Mr. MK..Hindu Have not heart ...They Have Not Value for life .....i want to say rocking abusive words to you but I am Hindu...I Respect My Culture......Mk You Have Any sense Then Visit This page and Read Comments You Realize That What You Say About Gujrat And Modi Bhai saa

Are not they ardent followers of one Coward M.K.Gandhi, who told Kerala Hindu women to allow Muslims to rape them, if they wanted to rape them, in 30s? He, the coward, asked Hindu Women to give in to Muslim rapists and get over it. After all what else you expect for such men and such party.

MALNUTRITION - I tried to dissect the background meaning / connotation - as such this is not literally ascribed in the context BUT gullible Indians will read into it literally - "mal"+"nutrition" . "Mal" maybe very well attributed to "maal" (hindi) aka loot derived from corruption -- it is subtle deception by similar sounding words. How does then "Con-" (opp. of "Pro-") gress and its proxies handle the matter -- you know the scheme to fill the coffers of all poor fellows and initiate them to sure corruption and polarization - what is the better place to start with - where Burkha visited last.

There is a MK in Tamilnadu too. He is otherwise known as karunanidhi ,DMK chief. He also blabbers at his will. He is as senile as Katju and nobody takes him seriously nowadays including the prince in waiting, Rahul. Only likees of " THE Hindu" gives him space as they have a common agenda to thwart Modi from reaching Delhi.

If Markandeya Katju is a retired judge from supreme court, I do not know how the justice is delivered in that Supreme Institution in India. If he was the judge in supreme court, I do not know what his fellow judges felt about him or how they could manage with him. Or are they also travelling in the same boat?

We the people in 90% category are of the opinion that Supreme Court is one last institution, that yet to be dismantled by Congress, but with the quality of judges as represented by Mr. Markandeya Katuju suggests otherwise. I think Mr. Kapil Sibal, Manish Tiwari, P. Chindambaram are on that job. That is why MK could get such important post to vomit his biases.

Chairman of Press Council of India is a constitutional post, and if, Supreme Court feels it should not be judged on the intelligence of MK then they should take suo moto action to remove him from his constituational post. He will never resign as Arun Jaitly has demanded in his article.

When I started reading more of Katju's Katil 10% intelligence, more it became clear that he is been installed for a purpose by Sonia. Sonia needs favorable media coverage in coming Loksabha elections and since media was getting more concerned with "The Family" mentioned Italian probe on AugustaWestland scam, Katju used tried & tested trick of bring Modiji & Gujarat in discussion to diver whole attention. Congress knows art of divide, rule & making non issue a issue so greatly that I think it might be one of the compulsory subjects in 100Cr budget which Congress is spending through likes of Sanjay Jha. Katju in his eager to be proved as intelligent & in top 10% in India tries to shoot many targets & fails miserably. He is being a perfect pet who responds to his masters voice. But by being so shamelessly politically biased how come he can hold a position of Chief of Press council, which requires unbiased approach? As an individual he is entitled to have his opinion but Imagine what would be situation when CEC of India becomes so politically biased or his judge friends in SC start thinking of their post retirement jobs & start giving twisted verdicts? Katju disease must remain a private disease and shouldnt be patronized in open.. its a dangerous trend of Sonia applying Italian Mafiosi everywhere..

LOL, with all due respect to Ravi, Arun Jaitley's absolutely caustic, scathing, forceful, articulate and comprehensive brutalization of Markandey Katju today was MUCH BETTER than this piece. I have never seen Jaitley (normally a very affable and relaxed person) being as hard as he was today on Katju, taking the latter to the cleaners, and essentially wiping the floor with Katju's face. What an EPIC hammering! Read it here:

I really like all of your articles. It makes for good reading and especially reflects how I feel about the political situation in India. I am living in Silicon Valley for the past decade, however, I actively follow the news from India. I don't however react as angrily as I used to when I hear some of the comments made by some of this so called 'liberal' media. The mere fact that your page has been viewed a million times is sufficient proof enough of the kind of support that your articles have and how the hoi-polloi agree to your evaluation of issues. It seems to me like a revolution of sorts brewing and it has my full support. Hope that this can materialize into a kind of news channel of sorts whose true motto would be to move away from cricket and film discussions to real unjaundiced, unadulterated reports and rediscover journalism which seems to have lost its way in India. Kudos and my best wishes for that.

Again we should not err the arrow, we should shoot the shooter, " The Anti-Hindu", I have forthwith stopped buying that crap run by Land Goon Nasty Ram and his stooge Vardhabhai. If every one takes that pledge, it will hurt the most where it matters... this garbage paper will find its way where it belongs.

Fully agree with Maaveran Casanova. I have stopped reading the "The Hindu" anti national news paper altogether. I stopped subscription to the daily news paper and not going to their free online paper (why to waste my mouse clicks :) ). My news sources are very limited (like a very few politicians in India :) ). These include DailyPioneer.com , NitiCentral.com , SandeepWeb.com, MediaCrooks.com and NaturalNews.com (for natural health news).

We have to hit anti nationals where it hurts them. By stopping the "The Hindu" subscription you are helping India and the environment at the same time :).

I remember having read somewhere that this man as a judge had once convicted Dronacharya of Mahabharata days for untouchability offence aginst Ekalavya in a judgement. Would anybody entertain me about this through comments section.

I am seriously in doubt are you sure he was a judge because he is not behaving like one.Kudos to BJP also for showing no-nonsense attitude first time.Now Justice(Not sure about it)Katju is making a fool of himself on channel after channel.But that's all fyn "What about malnutrition" Ravi :D

Katju is so biased that he held the news of India Today on Salman Khurshid as great insult for the congress minister... and ordered probe against Aaj Tak that why they undertook the investigation on Salman Khurshid the Baisakhi Chor....

What more can you expect from a person like Katju who had the audacity to call 90% Indians as fools. (I wonder whether he also comes within that 90%). As chairman of PCI he thinks he is capable of commenting on anything and everything. He just wants to be in the news that is all. Publicity craze. Better ignore him.

such articles only make it easier for people like owaisi and togadia to divide us . few days ago THE HINDU insulted SWAMI VIVEKANAND ( IGNORING HIS OVERALL PHILOSPHY OF WOMEN EMPOWERMENT ) by publishing this article ."Swami Vivekananda’s masculine photographic-pose was only one aspect of the cult of masculinity encouraged and tolerated by nationalism." this article also carried his image , which they removed after huge protests .SUCH PEOPLE CALL GANDHI A CASTEIST AS WELL . THIS MUST BE STOPPED . WHY QUOTE GREAT VIVEKANAND AND GREAT GANDHI OUT OF CONTEXT ???? .INSULT TO GANDHI - http://www.webskyper.com/gandhi-the-casteist-why-call-him-mahatma-see-what-he-said/ INSULT TO VIVEKANAND http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/taking-the-aggression-out-of-masculinity/article4266007.ece IF WE DONT STOP SUCH PROVOCATIVE AND OFFENSIVE ARTICLES THEN SUCH WEBSITES WILL COME INTO PICTURE .i think BAJRANG DAL / VHP MADE THIS WEBSITE ..I GOOGLED " GUJRAT RIOTS " AND FOUND THIS WEBSITE .. DO CHECK DIS www.gujaratriots.com/index.php/home/

THAT IS WHY ITS VERY IMP TO RESPECT THE JUDICIARY AND HAVE FAITH IN THEM . AND TO NOT COMMENT ON THEM . IF JUSTICE KATJU HAS NO FAITH IN COURTS WHAT WAS HE DOING IN SUPREME COURT ALL THESE YEARS ??????????

you guys can also protest in a dignified manner by mailing to THE HINDU .mail them web.thehindu@thehindu.co.in

ALL guys, who feel outraged by this article , must raise protest in a dignified manner..

I was a great fan of THE HINDU until N.Ram took over as Editor-in-Chief. I have stopped reading ever since 2003 because of their pseudo-secular, biased reporting & views and switched over to The New India Express. The English sucks compared to THE HINDU but my conscience is clear and my BP doesn't rise reading the hypocritical reporting and views of THE HINDU.

1984 riots .4000 sikhs killed in delhi by congress nazis ( fascists , goons ) . 3000 more sikhs killed in rest of india . NOT A SINGLE HINDU/MUSLIM CONGRESSI RIOTER WAS KILLED BY POLICE . IT WAS TRUE CASE OF STATE SPONSERED GENOCIDE , MASSACRE . ATLEAST IN 2002 GUJRAT RIOTS MORE THAN 100 HINDU RIOTERS WERE KILLED BY POLICE/PARAMILITARY/ARMY BULLETS .

1984 RIOTS ARE THE WORST NIGHTMARE OF MODERN INDIA . 28 LONG YEARS NOT A SINGLE CONVICTION . CBI IN ITS USUAL WAYS GAVE CLEAN CHIT TO RIOTERS WHO ARE NOW VERY INFLUENTIAL . A REAL SHAME . IT WILL BE ALWAYS AN ISSUE . JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED .It seemed easy for [former Prime Minister] Rajiv Gandhi to say, ‘When a giant tree falls, the earth below shakes.’ Our trees fell and we can still feel the tremors.” -Victim whose husband was burned alive during the pogroms.

I WANT AN SIT UNDER SUPREME COURT TO RELOOK THE ROLES OF TITLER , KAMALNATH AND OTHERS..... IF CONGRESS WAS APOLOGITIC , THEN WHY KAMALNATH IS STILL A CABINET MINISTER . ARE THESE SIKHS MAD PEOPLE ???????????????????????????????????????????????? http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-09-26/chandigarh/30203611_1_sikhs-protest-sikh-genocide-kamal-nath

I HAVE FAITH IN " SIT " . IT REPORTS ONLY TO SUPREME COURT . IT IS NOT LIKE CBI WHICH REPORTS TO (ruling parties in reality ) PM ON PAPER .IF WHY DO WE KEEP PROMOTING FEAR AND HATRED AMONG HINDU BROTHERS AND MUSLIM BROTHERS ?? DO WE WANT MORE RIOTS ? DO WE WANT AKSHARDHAM TEMPLE TERRORIST ATTACK OF 2002 FOR TAKING REVENGE OF GUJRAT RIOTS ? WHAT RESPONSIBILITY JUSTICE KATJU HAS AS A SENIOR CITIZEN AND CHAIRMAN OF PCI ? WHAT ARE HIS INTENTIONS ? WHY DONT HE LEAVE IT FOR THE SUPREME COURT TO DECIDE ON MR MODI ? WHY DONT HE LEAVE IT ON INDIAN ELECTORATES TO DECIDE ON ELECTIONS ? WHY IS HE TRYING TO INFLUENCE THE VOTING BEHAVIOUR ? IN HIS OFFICIAL CAPACITY OF CHAIRMAN , PRESS COUNCIL OF INDIA , IS HE ENTITLED TO INFLUENCE VOTING ? CAN HE CAMPAIGN AGAINST AN INDIVIDUAL ? HE IS A STRONG CRITIC OF PAID NEWS . THEN WHY THIS DOUBLE STANDARDS . JUSTICE KATJU MUST UNDERSTAND THAT INDIAN YOUTH IS UNITED . INDIAN YOUTH LOVES ALL HINDUS , MUSLIMS , SIKHS , CHRISTIANS , JAINS , BUDDHISTS ANYONE WHO LIVES INSIDE OR OUTSIDE INDIA

THIS IS THE WORST JOKE I HAVE EVER HEARD . RIOTS VICTIMS ARE RUNNING FROM PILLAR TO POST FOR 28 YEARS , NOT A SINGLE CONVICTION . IN GUJRAT RIOTS MAYA KODANI , BAJRANGI HAVE BEEN PUNISHED . WHEN PEOPLE LIKE YOU DISCRMINATE THE RIOTS , YOU LOSE YOUR CREDIBILITY . I AM REALLY SORRY FOR YOU . MAY GOD GIVE YOU SOME EMPATHY . JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED . WHY DOES IS CEASES TO BE AN ISSUE ?BECAUSE SECULAR CONGRESS GOONS WERE INVOLVED ??? BECUASE MANY RIOTERS WHO LED THE MOB ARE CABINET MINISTERS IN INDIAN GOVERNMENT AND YOU ARE AFRAID TO TALK ABOUT IT ?? BECAUSE THERE ARE ONLY 2 CRORE SIKHS UNLIKE 20 CRORE MUSLIMS ?? BECASUE LIFE OF A SIKH IS CHEAPER THAN A MUSLIM ??? GET SOME EMAPTHY MAN . IF I WERE AS SICK AS YOU , I COULD HAVE TOLD ----- GUJRAT RIOTS ARE NOT AN ISSUE ANYMORE , BUT CORRUPTION , LACK OF GOOD GOVERNANCE IS . BUT I WILL NOT . BECAUSE I AM A SENSITIVE HUMAN .i want each and every rioter punished ..APOLOGY IS NOT ENOUGH . MANMOHAN SINGH WAS JUST AN RBI GOVERNOR AT 1984 DELHI ANTI SIKH RIOTS .. I WANT RIOTERS PUNISHED JUST AS MAYA KODANI AND BABU BAJRANGI HAVE BEEN..i want kodani and bajrangi hanged ..and i want 1984 rioters hanged as well ..it has been 28 long years ..many key witnesses have died ..many are old .. I WANT AN SIT UNDER SUPREME COURT TO RELOOK THE ROLES OF TITLER , KAMALNATH AND OTHERS..... IF CONGRESS WAS APOLOGITIC , THEN WHY KAMALNATH IS STILL A CABINET MINISTER . ARE THESE SIKHS MAD PEOPLE ???????????????????????????????????????????????? http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-09-26/chandigarh/30203611_1_sikhs-protest-sikh-genocide-kamal-nath

I WANT AN SIT UNDER SUPREME COURT TO RELOOK THE ROLES OF TITLER , KAMALNATH AND OTHERS..... IF CONGRESS WAS APOLOGITIC , THEN WHY KAMALNATH IS STILL A CABINET MINISTER . ARE THESE SIKHS MAD PEOPLE ???????????????????????????????????????????????? http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-09-26/chandigarh/30203611_1_sikhs-protest-sikh-genocide-kamal-nath

1984 riots by congressi nazis/fascists/goons ..NOT A SINGLE CONVICTION AFTER 28 YEARS . RIOTERS LEADING THE MOBS ARE CABINET MINISTERS OF INDIA

It seemed easy for [former Prime Minister] Rajiv Gandhi to say, ‘When a giant tree falls, the earth below shakes.’ Our trees fell and we can still feel the tremors.” -Victim whose husband was burned alive during the pogroms.

This fellow Katju who calls 90% Indians as fools and idiots is presently making a complete fool of himself in front of the whole country. It has been rightly said that "Katju is more Congress than Congress".

Just read an article by Kanchan Gupta in Niti Central on 20th Feb about Gujarat's development under Modi's government. He has systematically dissected a report from "Frontline" written by some Lyla Bavadam. What hit me the most is :1) We cannot compare Gujarat's development with any other state because Gujarat was a drought ridden state unlike Punjab & Haryana & without any natural resources unlike Orrisa & Jharkhand. 2) Similarly you must compare its Human indices before & after Modi's rule to understand the exact improvement during his tenure.3) Modi has never declared that Gujarat has already become a Developed state but is only talking about his initiatives in past 10 years & progress achieved. Its a state which still needs a lot of development but under leadership of Mr modi its possible that malnutrition shall also be soon overcome. 4) Hence Letist Fiberals who are trying to discredit Modi's Leadership & Governance can no longer fool the common man.

Although I am deviating from Topic, but I find the comments made by Salman Khurshid " Italian authorities refusing to share deal documents" as complete hoax. Why would some country such as Italy not co-operate with India to unravel a fraud/corruption ????? I sincerely believe the Congress Govt is using CBI to pressurize the Italian Govt to bury the records in a hurry ! SHAMEFUL.

I just came across this article of yours. I really liked it but I just have one clarification to make. When Justice Katju says 'Pandit Nehru and his colleagues gave us a secular Constitution', he is right. What your reply was that the word 'Secular' was not inserted by our founding fathers. When did Justice Katju say that Nehru and all inserted it? It is known to everyone that Indira Gandhi did it by the 42nd amendment in 1976, but you must know that the Constitution was considered to be secular even before that. In the historic Keshvananda Bharti case the Supreme Court held that our Constitution is secular and a basic feature of the constitution. That means our Constitution was secular since the time we adopted it... and it was secular only because of Nehru, Ambedkar and others... This is why Nani Palkhivala, the great jurist said that 'by inserting the word 'secular' in the Preamble, the Constitution has been defaced. We were already secular.' He even wrote in his book that it was a strategy adopted by Indira Gandhi to woo the voters.. Therefore, I think that it would be wrong if you would say that Nehru and others didn't contribute to make the Constitution secular. (see Articles 25-28 and 44. They are there since the time the Constitution was adopted)

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