Friday, June 24, 2011

Monument for What?

Remember when Heroes used to get parades and statues? Monuments are supposed to be grand things. Large, sweeping, majestic pieces of architecture, statues, fountains, etc. designed to inspire and memorialize heroic deeds, sacrifices or individuals. They should move us. Washington DC is filled with shining examples of such: The Washington Monument, the Lincoln and Jefferson Memorials, the National Law Enforcement Memorial.

Chicago has its share of monuments and memorials all over downtown and in most of the larger parks. Sculptures, statues, fountains.

Chicago attorneys and activists are planning a monument to memorialize the victims of police torture.

The group is asking artists to submit proposals for the monument.

Group members say their goal is "to honor the survivors of torture, their family members, and the African American communities affected by the torture."

The launch for the project is set for Tuesday at the Hull House in Chicago.

The launch will include attorneys who have represented police torture victims and a man who says Chicago police tortured him into confessing to murder.

Has anyone actually looked at who these "victims" are? Lifelong scammers and criminals, many of whom were released on technicalities, manufactured evidence and "foggy" memories that surfaced decades after the fact. Many were backed by a university professor who has been accused of offering better grades to students who could come up with "evidence" or witnesses to clear convicted offenders, using a young co-ed as eye-candy to at least one inmate, and who recently resigned his tenured position due to his questionable tactics.

More than a few of their "innocent torture victims" have already returned to a life of crime and are headed back to prison. One of their more famous releases was the subject of a parallel outside agency investigation that concluded he probably did set the fire that killed seven people, including children.

These are to be the subjects of a "memorial" to uplift and inspire us? All we're inspired to do is take a leak on this thing.

I am sending my submission to the group a working replica of a old west working gallows.surrounded by hippies and lawyer statues hold hands a mural of the the projects link cards and fr.phaker .crying and ask that it be placed at roosevelt @ indy.lifm.

Nothing can justify the investigative tactics that occured under Burge. It never should have happended. That said, i totally agree with the rest of the post that the offenders are all scum bags and the defense attorneys are all liberal asshats or people taking advantage of things to line their pockets. Burge never should have been taken to trial or sent to prison. The police brass and the mayors over him knew what what going on and condoned it, either openly or tacitly which only encouraged and gave some justification to Burge. In the end, Burge holds the bag and the rest escape with their pensions. A memorial to these scumbags ? Lets put this entire mater to rest and let it be.

I purpose to construct a monument for all the shyster lawyers, lawyers who feed off suing governments and those lawyers who solicit and lye on court affidavits for their own personal gain and knowing their claims are meritless.

Our city is lost, but it's not so far lost that we can't take it back......People who love this city, and are liberl, better wake up soon! I know you're starting to see things that you never thought you would see, i.e. robberies, beatings, disturbances ect.....on your precious northside. It's all connected!!!!! WAKE UP AND START SPEAKING UP!!!!

Believe that there are thousands of Liberals who will want to contribute to this scam. Wanna bet the City will find a nice spot to put this thing. Just when you think you have seen everything this pops up. Only in America.

A monumentally stupid idea. With that said, the type of people who are behind this couldn't organize a trip to the corner store, so I doubt it will come to fruition. I see a headline in 3 or 4 years--"Police Torture Monument at standstill--organizers under investigation for misuse of funds."

Why doesn't someone start forwarding the list of monthly retirements from the FOP newsletter to the media. Simple math will show the 40-50 retirees each month which equals 480-600 last year alone. When they do the math they can no longer eat up the shit the Rahm is feeding everyone about all these officers he's pulling out if the air.

Shields - Step up and make some noise. If you don't you'll be out of the FOP before you get a chance to decorate your sweet little office. Act like a leader.

6/23/2011 12:22:00 AM

Explain please how you would get Shields out of office?

6/23/2011 07:38:00 PM

You want to get Shields out of office? Just tell him his daddy has another security gig he can handle while he should be handling FOP business and Pension business.

This guy must be the greatest multi tasker in handling two full time jobs of Pension Rep and FOP President at the same time scheduling all his little cronies to work at General Iron.

Hey, I know; if they want a monument, it should be funded exclusively by the so-called victims and the monetary settlements they received on their release and from their subsequent multimillion dollar lawsuits.

Check out Mccarthy when asked about Burke's detail.......he gets his John Wayne attitude but avoids answering the question.......what a puss.......should of done that at St. Sabina Garry.......take your macho tuff guy attitude and beat it back to joizy

And you boys and girls are being told by the pathetic exempt staff to "go and be the police"! Watch your pension-freedom-job dwindle and quickly! Will this fucked up city-state-county kick in our money for this shit! Maybe we could then and hope our innocent youth graffiti artists could destroy this pos as it is being constructed! Lets watch and observe who contributes to this blatant disregard for coppers!

I find it all sickening. What is next, a memorial for "innocent honor roll students killed and executed at the hands of the Chicago gestapo police?".

To make matters worse, this will become a reality and people (all kinds of people not just the ghetto rats) will visit it. I am sure that disgraced Northwestern professor and his students will provide an education section.

A monument for some piece of shit,dope smoking,thieving,I don't know how many childrens I have,bottom feeder,never worked a day in their lives,who lives by the creed,if I can't fuck it,or eat it,I'll kill it,ghetto dogs!!!!!

Maybe they can replicate the memorials that already exsist on the south and west sides. Monumental amounts of empty bottles of grey goose, and patron, some ballons, candle, and a poster board so everyone can sign. That would look great on the mag mile.

Actor Peter Falk died Thursday night at the age of 83 at his home in Beverly Hills, according to family members.

Falk was best known as Lieutenant Columbo in the television series "Columbo" -- which earned him four Emmy Awards. He also starred in numerous Broadway stage productions.He earned two Academy Award nominations -- for 1960's "Murder, Inc" and 1961's "Pocketful of Miracles."

The actor had reportedly been suffering from dementia and Alzheimer's disease.---

When you visit this “memorial” at Hull House make sure not to miss their exhibit honoring the Conservative Vice Lords street gang for all of the civil service they so generously bestowed upon our community.

Off topic SCC......the trial for the savage that tried to kill Area One Detective Patrick JOHNSON will begin on 26 JUN 11 in Judge JOYCE'S courtroom #602. On trial is an animal called Bobby SELVIE, who comes from a bloodline of barbaric individuals. This incident occurred on 19 MAY 07 near 50th and Peoria. Plaese spread the word. If any one is at court that day, please stop by Room 602 and show your support to Pat and his family.

sh*t bird attorneys trying to make police look bad......nothing to memorialize in scum bags....i wanna see a statue ill go to the zoo.......let em build it....im sure my truck can rip through it.....blame it on city pot holes

Off Topic: The Doty madness continues. Two Lts. were laid off today at the UCPD. Both have been employed by the UCPD for more than 20 years. Talk about a hostilework environment...we're just all in shock here, numb. Numb, and wondering when this madness with Lynch and Doty is going to come to an end.One of the Lts. received a real shitty schedule, sitting by the front door of the station for an entire 12 hour shift, to speak with and greet any persons coming into the station who would need our services. A fucking Lt. of Police! It was clear that he received this 'plum assignment' in an attempt to force him to resign, but he hung in there, and took on the new assignment with no complaints. It seems Doty got tired of waiting, and simply released him and another Lt. from their employ. This makes three Lts. who have been discharged this year. None of this shit makes any sense. Most of us here have liked to work here, but this stuff going on since Doty joined our dept. two years ago is just madness, making it hard for anyone here to concentrate on just doing their job when everything appears to be unravelling all around us. Everyone appears to be showing signs of heavy stress here now on a daily basis.

The Claus Olenberg bat column was constructed to represent the force of police brutality in our American society as well, back forty years ago. So we already have such a structure. Please don't criticize my spelling. If you can spell his name off the top of your head, you need to get out more.

Don't get too excited about a bunch of aging Commie lawyers/radicals/weirdos, I mean, what do you expect?

And don't get too concerned about this superintendent sucking off Phleger and spewing these wacky theories, because this guy is done. This went national a little while ago and nobody will be taking him seriously. Funny to see him preening like a jackass in that video anyway.

Oh, hey, Mr. 'I ain't afraid of race', what was the race of those teens that terrorized the Gold Coast last week? And how is the hunt going for the original group, you know, the one that you promised you'd get every one of them? .

After having my son memorialized for his LODD on a few Heroes Monuments across the country, and then hear this even being thought about, I will be stocking up on black and red spray paint for the week after it's dedication. I will become the Ace Tagger of ChicagoLand. WTF is this country coming to?

As my late uncle, a 28 yr vet of the CPD once said to me...Tom, forget the north side of the city its gone, forget the county, its gone, forget the whole state ITS GONE. Only in the past few years do I finally realize what a prophet he was, this is just another example of why its all gone!

Read the news article from the link below. Only Matt Drudge is reporting these incidents. Not even Fox News is reporting them. In the last year there has been an alarming increase of black youths attacking whites and Asians. In New Jersey there were several attacks against Indians from black teenagers. Racism goes both ways.

I've learned the hard way, to never say, "It can't possibly get any worse." Because inevitably, it always does.

So just put your head and shoulders forward and power through.

This is an insult to law enforcement. Because what this monument would say, is that the mass majority of law enforcerment officers are tortureres, instead of recognizing that the reality of it happening is rare.

As an LEO, I'm just sad. It's a focus on the bad. Do these people who want the monument want to celebrate us for the gruesomeness we witness every day?

Didn't think so.

Sad.Misdirected, one-dimensional thinking.

Are these people going to honor the police memorial for the sacrifices?

Fuck it lets let the gangbagers build a "killed by police" memorial while we are at. The can have an endless 40 oz of ole English pouring out for their dead homies and shit! You all know we would try our best to add to that memorial as well. lol

Meh--the history of public monuments is littered with scoundrels and vague composite "heroes." Let 'em build it, and also privately fund it. Repeat: PRIVATELY funded. Let's see how many reverends plead empty wallets when the time comes.

How about a monument to victims of "WILDINGS",How about a monument to victims of inner city "THUGS",How about a monument to victims all over the "COUNTY OF COOK" that suffer from the everyday B--l Sh-t we have to deal with from Jon Burges so called "victims".

We lived in the most fucked up city, in the most fucked up county, in the most fucked up state. Not one leader in this state has any balls from the Governer to our Superintendent. If they build it, I swear Iwill tear it down and shit on it.

Usually I would not think twice about this commercial unitl I saw who was headlining and up for an award: CHRIS BROWN!?!??!? This was the guy who brutally beat his girlfriend to a pulp. This is who the mainstream "black community" supports as one of their role models? No wonder our superintendent tells them what they want to hear, it just shows where their priorities are. Violence against women seems to be accepted among BET viewers.

After having my son memorialized for his LODD on a few Heroes Monuments across the country, and then hear this even being thought about, I will be stocking up on black and red spray paint for the week after it's dedication. I will become the Ace Tagger of ChicagoLand. WTF is this country coming to?

Oh, hey, Mr. 'I ain't afraid of race', what was the race of those teens that terrorized the Gold Coast last week? And how is the hunt going for the original group, you know, the one that you promised you'd get every one of them? .

Sorry to see all the shit you are all dealing with back home in Chicago.

I retired & fled to Colorado & if I want to see crime I have to turn on WGN-TV. Don't get me wrong, there is some crime in Denver & other bigger cities, however, in the other areas crime is real news. The killings done here are by 4 legged animals, bears, mountain lions, coyotes, bobcats, badgers, eagles etc....

Crime is quite slow & many people have their concealed carry permits & every home has a gun or more. We have the make my day law which says, if you come in unwelcomed you will be carried out dead!

Crooked politics is usually prefaced with a statement by someone discussing Shicago or Crook County & the scum politicians, lawyers etc.

Usually I would not think twice about this commercial unitl I saw who was headlining and up for an award: CHRIS BROWN!?!??!? This was the guy who brutally beat his girlfriend to a pulp. This is who the mainstream "black community" supports as one of their role models? No wonder our superintendent tells them what they want to hear, it just shows where their priorities are. Violence against women seems to be accepted among BET viewers.'

Chris Brown is a felon. He's been found guilty of a felony, and is still (I believe) currently on probation.Chris Brown was highly ostracized by his formerly adoring public, and his record sales (income) plummeted for the past year and half (maybe longer) as a result of the incident you speak of. He was wrong, and he knows it, and he hasn't gotten away with anything; in fact, he's paid a heavier price for his actions than the average first-time domestic violence arrestee. At some point, life goes on. The guy sings for a living. No one should be denied the right to earn a living based on one incident, even one as highly publicized as his was. I'm sure that whatever award Chris Brown received on that show, it wasn't one that had anything to do with being a role model. He likely wouldn't even place in the top ten if a poll was taken today among black teens as to who they are influenced by.

To the reading-challenged individual posting the request for "a retraction or a CIVIL critique," here you go:

You fall into the typical trap of quoting us partially, instead of in full. We didn't just say "Monuments are supposed to be grand things.... to memorialize heroic deeds," You should have included a couple of [...] and [...] if you are going to misquote us so selectively. Here's the actual post:

Monuments are supposed to be grand things. Large, sweeping, majestic pieces of architecture, statues, fountains, etc. designed to inspire and memorialize heroic deeds, sacrifices or individuals.

See the words "sacrifices" and "individuals"? So right away, your first half a dozen sentences reek of leftist bullshit.

Then there's the unsupported assumption that CPD yearns for the "power to torture the whole citizenry at will." Could you point out the comments that say that? We seem to be missing them. There is a bunch of overwrought trash talking about defiling the "monument" should it ever come into being, but we suppose our readers may have learned that lesson from so many of your fellow travelers defiling war memorials, the Haymarket statue and others. But we don't see anyone actually advocating wholesale "torture" anywhere.

And not to put too fine a point on it, but no one (that means ZERO) has even been convicted of torture or civil rights violations from that entire era. Burge was convicted for lying in a deposition, not torture. No one has ever produced any contemporaneous physical evidence of torture. The only "torture device" ever presented was a construct by the People's Law Office of what a device might look like. Seeing as how they were and remain a communist front group, it isn't surprising they'd know exactly what a torture device looked like.

So lawyers are proposing a monument to a bunch of known liars, thieves, crooks, arsonists, gang bangers and murderers for something they can't even prove ever occurred.

Any we don't buy for a minute you ever served a second in a police uniform. We might as well go around claiming we won a Pulitzer Prize just because we sarcastically have one in our side bar. We also have a medical degree from the U of Chicago and split atoms with our mind.

We aren't going to lose any sleep over your cry-babyism when you can't even read a simple blog post and selectively misquote and twist historical fact to meet your end. You friend, are the living and breathing definition of "asshat."

Burge was never on trial for torturing anybody and of course not convicted of torture. So tell me exactly what torture they are talking about. He was convicted of lying (perjury).

So now I've got it, they want to build a monument about lawyers and criminals, because that's all that comes out of their mouths. Do you want to know how you can tell a lawyer is lying? His lips will be moving.