"Their accuracy and range capabilities make these weapons among the most dangerous available today," the lawmakers said. "They can hit targets accurately one mile away and can inflict damage to targets up to four miles away."

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Can someone in a position to be heard over these bleating sheep please scream "[b]BULLSHIT![/b]" at the top of their lungs?!?!?
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Ok, when this thing first started out, it was SAW's and they started howling about them. Now the Feds and press are saying it could be a bolt action "sniper" rifle and they're up in arms about BBARWBMFS's (black-bolt-action-rifles-with -BIG-mutha-fucking-scopes). Where does it end with these people? Does anyone manufacture a lever or pump action .223? I hope there is. Just so I can laugh at the spin on that if that's what the weapon involved turns out to be.

Who's gonna get a clear shot at 4 miles!!!!!!! The target would have to be asleep in a chair and 1 MOA at 4 miles (7000+ yds) would be 6ft.......I'm not even gonna guess what kind of optics would even give you a chance at that. Seems I heard the Canadians were getting kills in Afghanistan in the 1500 meter range with a .50
Anyway a .50 will shoot 4 miles and even 7 miles with non-standard ammo.

When words lose their meaning, a people can move neither hand nor foot. Confucius

Originally Posted By Swad:
Let's see... just recently in Afghanistan a Canadian sniper scored the record with a kill at ~2500m and they're talking about 4mi there???

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You have to use Liberal math man! 2500m = 4 miles when talking about these weapons of mass destruction! :rolleyes: We need to be more vocal about these obvious lies! Bitching about it here is like preaching to the choir. I've had to squash a bunch of the BS these phuckers are spewing to the ignorant people in my office. Luckily I'm in the military,...most of the active duty people are cool it's the civilians that are dummer that dog shit...
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Oh right, I totally failed to remember that.
*pulls out his randy dandy liberal calculator and punches in a few numbers and tosses some pixy dust in the air*
Hrmmm... it's telling me that it equals about 7.254 miles. Let me try that again tomorrow and i'll get back to you on my new calculations.

Originally Posted By nightstalker:
Anyway a .50 will shoot 4 miles and even 7 miles with non-standard ammo.

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I gotta call BS on this. A .50 might, and that's a highly doubtful 'might', lob a round 4 miles, but with absolutely no effectiveness. If that's the case, .50 cal AA MG could be used to shoot at aircraft flying at 20,000 feet. A .50 cal AA MG is not even effective firing against aircraft at 5,000 feet.

If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.

Originally Posted By Aces-and-Eights:
Ok, when this thing first started out, it was SAW's and they started howling about them. Now the Feds and press are saying it could be a bolt action "sniper" rifle and they're up in arms about BBARWBMFS's (black-bolt-action-rifles-with -BIG-mutha-fucking-scopes). Where does it end with these people? Does anyone manufacture a lever or pump action .223? I hope there is. Just so I can laugh at the spin on that if that's what the weapon involved turns out to be.

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How about a New England Firearms Handi-Rifle in .223? It has a heavy barrel and is reasonably accurate and could very easily be the rifle being used in these shootings.
They don't have clue and are trying to demonize all rifles. 4 miles, my ass!
Why are they taking a situation in which the authorities say a .223 is being used (and I don't believe the authorities even know for sure) and start spouting figures like 1 mile and 4 miles? Wait, I know, it's two things. One, they are complete assholes. Two, the uneducated sheeple soccer moms won't know they are lying through their ass.

If it's a Colt, it's a copy of an original ArmaLite.

I am not LARRYG36.

Racing is life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.

If your AR10 is marked Geneseo, IL, it's still an AR10 no matter what some people say.