Revisiting the Faisal–Weizmann Agreement.

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I thought it might be interesting to revisit this agreement (never implemented), because Mudar Zahran, current leader of the Jordanian Opposition Coalition was referencing it last month, the 17th November, at this conference held in Jerusalem:

The agreement was signed between Fayṣal al-Awwal ibn al-Ḥusayn ibn, who was King of Greater Syria in 1920, and was King of Iraq from 1921 to 1933, and Chaim Azriel Weizmann who was President of the Zionist Organization and later became the first President of Israel.

The main points of the agreement were as follows:

1. The agreement committed both parties to conducting all relations between the groups by the most cordial goodwill and understanding, to work together to encourage immigration of Jews into Palestine on a large scale while protecting the rights of the Arab peasants and tenant farmers, and to safeguard the free practice of religious observances. The Muslim Holy Places were to be under Muslim control.

2. The Zionist movement undertook to assist the Arab residents of Palestine and the future Arab state to develop their natural resources and establish a growing economy.

3. The boundaries between an Arab State and Palestine should be determined by a Commission after the Paris Peace Conference.

4. The parties committed to carrying into effect the Balfour Declaration of 1917, calling for a Jewish national home in Palestine.

5. Disputes were to be submitted to the British Government for arbitration.

(from wiki)

Anyway, I'll throw it open to the floor. What do people on here think of that agreement as a template for working towards agreement between the Jews and the Arab-Muslim world, as a template towards having the Palestinians' rightful claims to be addressed? And what is the likelihood of the key Arab Muslim states coming back around to that type of thinking, and burying all the abominable radicalism that came after 1919-1922?

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I thought it might be interesting to revisit this agreement (never implemented), because Mudar Zahran, current leader of the Jordanian Opposition Coalition was referencing it last month, the 17th November, at this conference held in Jerusalem:

It would seem that if Mudar Zahran managed to come to power in Jordan that he would look to something like this agreement as a template for the Arabs coming to agreement with the Israelis. ...
The agreement was signed between Fayṣal al-Awwal ibn al-Ḥusayn ibn, who was King of Greater Syria in 1920, and was King of Iraq from 1921 to 1933, and Chaim Azriel Weizmann who was President of the Zionist Organization and later became the first President of Israel ...

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The immigration of the Jews on a "large scale" has already happened, and encouraging it to happen again would only result in making millions of Palestinians homeless as their land is seized for Israeli settlements. Its very much like what Cromwell did in Ireland with the Cromwellian settlement, where Catholics were turfed off their land to make way for British Protestants.

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The immigration of the Jews on a "large scale" has already happened, and encouraging it to happen again would only result in making millions of Palestinians homeless as their land is seized for Israeli settlements.

Its very much like what Cromwell did in Ireland with the Cromwellian settlement, where Catholics were turfed off their land to make way for British Protestants.

But at the time of the FaisalWeizmann Agreement no land had been seized in Palestine. It had all been bought from willing sellers.

However land was being seized for European settlers in Algeria; and during the Great War and at the start of the 1920s Muslims had been turned off their land in large numbers, and with terrible atrocities, in Turkey. That's what made the Palestinians worry.

And then in the 1930's Mussolini was turning people off their land so that Italians could farm it.

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But at the time of the Faisal–Weizmann Agreement no land had been seized in Palestine. It had all been bought from willing sellers.

However land was being seized for European settlers in Algeria; and during the Great War and at the start of the 1920s Muslims had been turned off their land in large numbers, and with terrible atrocities, in Turkey. That's what made the Palestinians worry.

And then in the 1930's Mussolini was turning people off their land so that Italians could farm it.

But we now know from leaked Israeli government documents that the vast majority of the settlements are built on Palestinian owned land. In particular the settlement of Ofra was build on land obtained by forged documents.

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But we now know from leaked Israeli government documents that the vast majority of the settlements are built on Palestinian owned land. In particular the settlement of Ofra was build on land obtained by forged documents.

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But we now know from leaked Israeli government documents that the vast majority of the settlements are built on Palestinian owned land. In particular the settlement of Ofra was build on land obtained by forged documents.

You're already back to the usual libels against Israel, diverting from the point of the thread - which is an essential recognition of Jewish rights, and a willingness to move forward positively, working together, as good neighbours, Jews and Arabs, which was what the FaisalWeizmann Agreement was essentially about.

(Notwithstanding that your accusation is highly dishonest. The vast majority of settlements are not built on Palestinian land. Many of them are in areas like Gush Etzion and Hebron, which had Jewish communities that had existed sometimes for thousands of years before they were depopulated in Arab riots in 1948. Neither have the Palestinians ever held sovereignty over the West Bank. And btw the new settlement announced earlier this year was the first new settlement since the early 1990's.

Anyway, it always descends to this, to attacks on Israel. It was like when Trump first announced his formal recognition of Jerusalem, it wasn't until it became evident that the world would side against them, and the mob all reassured each other with their usual slogans, that the thread I started filled up with the usual expressions of contempt of the Jews, and support for Hamas' reaction and the reactions of their other enemies etc.

I suppose anything not in the vein of show them uppity, scheming, dirty Jews in Israel a thing or two, is doomed to flounder on this forum.

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But we now know from leaked Israeli government documents that the vast majority of the settlements are built on Palestinian owned land. In particular the settlement of Ofra was build on land obtained by forged documents.

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I thought it might be interesting to revisit this agreement (never implemented), because Mudar Zahran, current leader of the Jordanian Opposition Coalition was referencing it last month, the 17th November, at this conference held in Jerusalem:

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roc_ I think this might interest you, it is about a Settler Rabbi who had a change of heart about Zionist cruelty towards the indigenous Palestinians and went on to become actual friends with Palestinians including leading members of Hamas and other actually Islamist hardline groups.