We’ve got to start hammering out what label is going to be best for us. In a perfect world, we’ll go back with Gil again. He was the best we’ve ever worked with and put our best foot forward with him. It’d be great to have that again. Maybe do it in a different state. We did it in Woodstock and Hoboken. It’d be cool to go to California. Your surroundings to reflect on the album. That’s why Shudder sounds happy to me; we were all in California under the sun. In a perfect world, we hope that’s an option.

Rysker6

12/13/12 02:42 PM

I love "Shudder". To this day it's my favorite Bayside record.

dicktony

12/13/12 03:33 PM

Shudder is definitely an album that people are going to appreciate more down the line. Self Titled will probably always be my favorite Bayside record (because nothing is going to be bring me back to that time in my life), but Shudder is a close second.

cubsml34

12/13/12 03:36 PM

Loved both Shudder and Killing Time, more of the same will be great.

MrGlanthor

12/13/12 03:39 PM

Maybe there the Hopeless signing?

bobsheiskawy

12/13/12 03:43 PM

i think the thing with shudder isn't that people didn't like it, it's that it's hard to rank it high when the band's also put out bayside, the walking wounded, and killing time. not to mention the acoustic record.

Brandon Allin

12/13/12 04:43 PM

Shudder is neck and neck with Killing Time and the self-titled for me.

Deartragedy88

12/13/12 04:53 PM

I listen to Shudder more than any of their other material. They definitely neglect that album in their live sets and I'm getting tired of it. I thought Boy was going to be a staple in their live set as soon as I heard it. I was definitely wrong. I wish they would not keep playing the same songs off Self-titled, Killing Time, and The Walking Wounded too. I would also like to see a non Masterpiece song from Sirens played from time to time. I know they have been okay at trying to mix it up on their headlining and co-headlining sets, but they play it safe with their sets too much in my opinion.

heyzombiehitler

12/13/12 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deartragedy88
(Post 116511422)

I listen to Shudder more than any of their other material. They definitely neglect that album in their live sets and I'm getting tired of it. I thought Boy was going to be a staple in their live set as soon as I heard it. I was definitely wrong. I wish they would not keep playing the same songs off Self-titled, Killing Time, and The Walking Wounded too. I would also like to see a non Masterpiece song from Sirens played from time to time. I know they have been okay at trying to mix it up on their headlining and co-headlining sets, but they play it safe with their sets too much in my opinion.

Bayside has been my favorite band since their self titled came out, i've seen them somewhere between 7-9 times and have to agree with you. One of my favorite concert moments is them playing "Guardrail" on the take action tour. But that took some nagging at an in store before the concert.

also, Victory needs to loosen their death grip on the rights to these albums and give them to a label who knows how to press a record. I'm spinning Shudder right now and the sound quality is like listening to it on an ipod with dollar store headphones. damn shame.

SteveD

12/13/12 06:31 PM

Shudder is their worst album. Hmmm

SuNDaYSTaR

12/13/12 06:47 PM

I didn't even know they left Wind-Up.

ACA

12/13/12 07:03 PM

This band's worst albums are better than 90% of the bands generally covered on this site. A quick glance at the frontpage confirms this.

That said, I wouldn't be opposed to them shaking up their setlists a bit (I'm probably one of those people who has seen Bayside at least 18 times). "OK GUYS, THIS IS DEVOTION AND DESIRE, ITS OUR LAST SONG, GO NUTS" - every show.

Miketheunicycle

12/13/12 07:15 PM

loved everything theyve ever put out

The_Effort

12/13/12 08:22 PM

I think shudder is a good album but definitely their weakest. In my opinion, the songs were all strong but almost felt-- how do I say this-- nursery rhyme-y I suppose. The progressions and verses were all solid, and every single chorus was incredibly catchy, but something about the songs on the album always hit me as sort of bland and boring, specifically in the melodies. Like someone said before, their worst album is better than a lot of bands best, but in my personal opinion, I do think that shudder is their worst album.

Portugal4142

12/13/12 08:32 PM

Few things..

1. i LOVE how divided people are when it comes to Baysides best/worst records are. People are always strongly opinionated, but always open-minded when it comes to other peoples opinions. Kind of rare..

2. I loved Shudder. 2nd favorite album of theirs without a doubt.

3. I don't think their next album will be good. I just have this strange feeling. I really, really hope I'm wrong.

Mattylikesfilms

12/13/12 09:26 PM

I guess i am the only one who absolutely adores The Walking Wounded above anything else?

Mattylikesfilms

12/13/12 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SuNDaYSTaR
(Post 116516072)

I didn't even know they left Wind-Up.

Wind-Up lost pretty much everyone they signed that wasnt nu-metal bullshit.

Searos

12/13/12 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattylikesfilms
(Post 116522432)

I guess i am the only one who absolutely adores The Walking Wounded above anything else?

Nope. for me The Walking Wounded>Self Title> Shudder=Killing Time (Both equally great)> Sirens and Condolences. That is not even counting the acoustic album Devotion and Desire acoustic is fantastic.

But yea The Walking Wounded is very special to me. Something about that album is very personal and I love it. The energy on it is divine. The self title is great and the way Bayside churns out great albums is just proof they are a great band but if I had to pick a favorite The Walking Wounded any day.

Edit: Just realized I saw Bayside at the same venue within exactly a year. Saw them with Saves The Day and then with Taking Back Sunday at the same venue on about the same weekend in November. I also saw them at warped this year. They never get old though. They were the perfect band to tour with Taking Back Sunday so that just made that awesome experience (which I dreamed of since high school - the whole tell all your friends in entirety) even better.

Mattylikesfilms

12/13/12 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Searos
(Post 116524982)

Nope. for me The Walking Wounded>Self Title> Shudder=Killing Time (Both equally great)> Sirens and Condolences. That is not even counting the acoustic album Devotion and Desire acoustic is fantastic.

But yea The Walking Wounded is very special to me. Something about that album is very personal and I love it. The energy on it is divine. The self title is great and the way Bayside churns out great albums is just proof they are a great band but if I had to pick a favorite The Walking Wounded any day.

Edit: Just realized I saw Bayside at the same venue within exactly a year. Saw them with Saves The Day and then with Taking Back Sunday at the same venue on about the same weekend in November. I also saw them at warped this year. They never get old though. They were the perfect band to tour with Taking Back Sunday so that just made that awesome experience (which I dreamed of since high school - the whole tell all your friends in entirety) even better.

I think I would agree with this. That record just has so many amazing songs from their discography (Head on a Plate,(Pop)Ular SciencE, I and I, and They're Not Horses, They're Unicorns) and musically, it was pretty experimental for them and not as straight forward as an album like Shudder and I feel like they semi regressed after TWW.

littleredhouse

12/14/12 02:32 AM

shudder is great. enjoyed that more than killing time tbh

SuNDaYSTaR

12/14/12 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattylikesfilms
(Post 116522472)

Wind-Up lost pretty much everyone they signed that wasnt nu-metal bullshit.

Well I have to admit I was surprised they even signed with them in the first place.

Searos

12/14/12 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattylikesfilms
(Post 116525982)

I think I would agree with this. That record just has so many amazing songs from their discography (Head on a Plate,(Pop)Ular SciencE, I and I, and They're Not Horses, They're Unicorns) and musically, it was pretty experimental for them and not as straight forward as an album like Shudder and I feel like they semi regressed after TWW.

I see what you mean by more experimental but I don't think they regressed. I think Killing Time is in the vein of the s/t and shudder was straight forward but a little different as well. I love every Bayside album but think The Walking Wounded was just the most memorable for me. Along with the songs you stated, "Choice Hops and Bottled Self Esteem" and "Dear Your Holiness" (got to hear that one live this year at warped) are some of my favorite bayside songs. I listen to Shudder a lot cause I think its their catchiest album next to TWW but I find Killing Time to combine all the best elements of Bayside and is a cousin to their self title. Not really an album by this band I don't listen to a lot (maybe sirens but still give that a spin every now and then).

Mattylikesfilms

12/14/12 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SuNDaYSTaR
(Post 116529362)

Well I have to admit I was surprised they even signed with them in the first place.

Well I thought the label was going in that direction by signing Hawthorne Heights but the label dropped HH and Bayside left.

Mattylikesfilms

12/14/12 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Searos
(Post 116535222)

I see what you mean by more experimental but I don't think they regressed. I think Killing Time is in the vein of the s/t and shudder was straight forward but a little different as well. I love every Bayside album but think The Walking Wounded was just the most memorable for me. Along with the songs you stated, "Choice Hops and Bottled Self Esteem" and "Dear Your Holiness" (got to hear that one live this year at warped) are some of my favorite bayside songs. I listen to Shudder a lot cause I think its their catchiest album next to TWW but I find Killing Time to combine all the best elements of Bayside and is a cousin to their self title. Not really an album by this band I don't listen to a lot (maybe sirens but still give that a spin every now and then).

Yeah I love pretty much all their albums but I thought they were on the brink of hitting it big with TWW but then they made Shudder which was (IMO) the wrong album to make as a follow up. Maybe as a follow up to their S/T but not TWW. I think Killing Time won back the people turned off by Shudder ("Seeing Sound" is one of my favorite Bayside songs ever) so I'm really hoping they make their next record big and ambitious.

CarouselBoy

12/14/12 06:08 PM

Shudder is probably my third favorite of theirs but I loved it and ever since it came out its always disappointed me how they'd play one song at the most from the record

Sharon!

12/14/12 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ACA
(Post 116516642)

That said, I wouldn't be opposed to them shaking up their setlists a bit (I'm probably one of those people who has seen Bayside at least 18 times). "OK GUYS, THIS IS DEVOTION AND DESIRE, ITS OUR LAST SONG, GO NUTS" - every show.

AMEN to this! I have seen them just as much live. There is a place for D&D in the setlist but it's time to change it's slot. I talk about this frequently. I'd love to see more Shudder and less "old" Bayside.

I feel like every album they put out is better and has more growth than the one before it. The progression of the band and their sound is pretty clear (and fucking fantastic) and this current era needs to be brought into the live shows. The older stuff shouldn't be forgotten about but I'd love to see Ghost of St. Valentine, I Think I'll Be OK and No One Understands and I & I as a closer. I enjoy the idea of everyone singing along and it being this epic ending/encore.

Jason_Merch

12/14/12 08:38 PM

They keep getting better and better over time. I love the progress they've made with each album