Status Whoring SWPLs And Pitbulls

I’m not the only one to notice the latest ridiculous SWPL fad of adopting abandoned ghetto-educated pitbulls as reclamation projects and status whoring symbols.

Pitbulls are one of the ugliest, nastiest dog breeds in circulation. The modern pitbull has been bred by upstanding, law-abiding citizens for aggression and a powerful bite. The pitbull is the thug of dogdom. It even looks like a fucking thug. Hence, its appeal to human thugs.

But now SWPLs, humanity’s insufferable burdenbraggarts, sensing another golden opportunity to flex their neoPuritan cred, have taken up the crusade of adopting ultraviolent, impulsive pitbulls and whisking them away from their ghetto cellar killing arenas to a brighter future in loving charter homes serviced by low wage, No Dog Left Behind hipster dog walkers.

Goddamned these herbalicious SWPLs. They really are a nauseating cult of pukes. Having failed at rescuing not one, but two mega-underclasses, their insatiable savior complex and hunger for balletic moral posturing, (usually satisfied at the expense of those other dog owners), have driven them into the blood-soaked paws of unpettable killer dogs. The SWPL’s soft, plush, Yoshi ego must gorge, and a multigenerational failure of positive thinking, supercilious sophistry, and self-good intentions has made SWPL Yoshi very very cranky. Not content with leaving ill-bred animals alone, and apparently incapable of enjoying the simple pleasure of normal dogs like labs without experiencing an existential crisis, the pitbull has become the newest cause celebre for urban SWPLs who can’t make it through a day without a pat on the back from their fellow missionaries.

To understand this sudden and perplexing SWPL adoration for pitbulls, you must know the SWPL psyche. The SWPL’s greatest fear is confronting the demands of her ego and discovering that everything she believes is a pile of horse shit. Oh no, can’t have that, no way no how. Equalism is the gargantuan hamster pellet that feeds her head, and the pitbull is a fortuitous animal proxy for the underprivileged humans that the SWPL happily (and relievedly) carries on believing are equally capable, equally worthwhile, and equally oppressed (except for that one group, yuk they’re soooo creepy).

Dog “breeds” are a social construct. The pitbull is just like any other dog! The pitbull is misunderstood! The pitbull is a victim of the caninarchy! The pitbull just needs the right training. You’re a pitbullist! Gross, pitbullist! Look at the pitbullist! Point at him! Isn’t he evil? Evil evil EVIL PITBULLIST! Now watch, gross evil pitbullist, how tolerant I am. See how I benevolently guide the pitbull through medical school, out from under your pitbullist oppressive bigotryprejudicefearinsecuritynarcissism…

CHOMP!

ooow, my face… it’s missing.

I will smile every time I read of a stupid white SWPL getting her face chewed off by one of her pitbull redemptions. Does she deserve it?

Yes. Yes she does.

I was planning to include a graphic photo of one such victim as a coda to this post, but it was so visually disturbing I decided against it. You can google for yourself to see a mauler’s row of pitbull attack victims. It’s not like there is any excuse for being ignorant about the ingrained and genetically bred pitbull temperament.

Like human trash, pitbull dog trash needs to be removed from society, neutered with extreme prejudice, and dropped to the bottom of the ocean. But I suppose if you’re the sort of smug shit who loves the warm feeling of lifting the animal world’s bloodthirsty psychopaths from the tyranny of low expectations, you’d go ahead and adopt one of these filthy beasts, and then execute the most impressive triple lindy back-rationalization in the history of smug shits when you wake up one morning to see your infant son half eaten.

One wonders, when there is nothing non-white or tangentially non-white left in the human or animal kingdom to “””save””” aka save in posturing only (SIPO), to which desperate, in-need group will the whitely superior SWPLs turn their outstretched, priestly arms in welcoming redemption next?

Another thing bitches started adopting recently is monkeys. Those things are just as dangerous as pitbulls. What is it with these worthless idiotic women? No man, no children, but pitbulls and monkeys?

Enslaving an animal and forcing companionship on them is like masturbation for us women.This is the next best thing to training a man. It comes NATURAL TO US to enslave things. Adequate women enslave men if we are too ugly to enslave a man, we will capture and enslave innocent animals instead.They what do what we say, be obedient, well behaved, snuggle with us, don’t speak, and be the blamer of our problems etc..

Monkeys and other primates are incredibly violent and unpredictable. They’re too intelligent to keep as pets because they resent captivity and actively plan revenge. Anyone who keeps one as a pet is both cruel and stupid.

Yep, they are very violent. A monkey could rip you to shreds. They are very dangerous. Yet some crazy stupid bitches adopted them as pets. Maybe as a substitute for a child. The pitbull is substituted for the alpha hubby, and the monkey for the baby. It’s a zoo out there.

Have you seen Louis Thereux’s documentary “America’s Most Dangerous Pets”? It really shows you the kind of emotionally unstable nutjobs that keep wild animals as pets. If you keep a cat or (non-vicious) dog, at least you’re keeping an animal that has been bred to seek out and enjoy human company. If you keep something like a monkey or other “exotic” pet, you’re attempting to assert control over an animal that hates captivity and wants nothing to do with you. It’s no surprised that most monkey/tiger/bear owners end up being mauled by their resentful “pets.” The practice itself belies a damaged and self-destructive mental state.

Domesticated dogs aren’t selected to turn on their owners. Period. That is a quality that only exists in dogs that are abused or poorly trained. I’m not arguing that all dogs are “equal” in temperament. I’m just stating the fucking obvious.

While I agree with you, ch, about pits, I don’t think that the folks who believe they are “trainable” are trolling for the sake of trolling. I’ve found that most of those morons actually believe it and have never done any research to challenge or confirm their asserted belief. Perhaps that’s because they subconsciously know they are wrong, but, regardless, they consciously belief pits are on par with basest hounds if trained correctly (as they, naturally, have).

they were bred to fight and only dumbasses would own one. they get loose and hurt people and the owners are so dumb and poorthey don’t have insurance so the injured person has no recourse. another reason to carry pepper spray and a gun

Dude, the name pit—, itself stems from dog fighting pits. The terriers, bulldogs and Mastiffs and whatever that went into the various pit bull mixes (most commonly, it is American Staffordshire Terriers that are referred to as pitbulls) served none fighting purposes, but pitbulls themselves were bred purely for aggression and gameness.

According to connoisseurs, well bred pit bulls were only supposed to be dog aggressive, not human aggressive. But that is probably a bit too much nuance for the average ghetto dog fight aficionado.

One thing though. At least here in the People’s Republic, this has been a SWPL trend for at least 20 years, if not more. In fact, as soon as Spuds McKenzie got famous in the 80s, his alpha male substitute siblings became hip amongst SWPL trash. In fact, one of the “women” that has to serve as absolute poster children for contemporary, post civilized SWPL trash wanted to outdo their mere pitbull wielding competitors by “adopting” a pair of Presas. Which were then trained to lick her (yes, there), until one day they decided eating her neighbor was more fun.

Of course, the same rabble that insist on dragging attack dogs to playgrounds to compensate for their own barren uselessness, are almost inevitably the first to beg massa gommiment to take all those dangerous guns away from those less trashy and worthless than themselves.

Yes, and they’ve been OVERBRED to be irrationally aggressive and to employ the “hold and shake” method of biting which shreds muscle tissue to ribbons. That impulse, combined with their high-pressure jaw structure (which is closer to the physiology of a shark than to other dog breeds) makes them incredibly dangerous and stupid to keep as pets without specialized knowledge. Even without the enhanced aggressiveness they’re physically capable of much more damage than other terriers. The only way to make them safe as pets is to breed out these characteristics over time, or to make it illegal to breed them (as many European countries have.) The current breed barely resemble the useful pit bull of 150 years ago. It’s simply a flashy status symbol for people who like dangerous dogs.

Most purebred dogs nowadays are useless, overpriced toys for selfish assholes. Many breeders aren’t knowledgeable enough to avoid overbreeding and the dogs end up with a wide array of easily preventable health and temperamental problems. Then you end up with truly stupid SWPL shit like dogs who can’t function without Prozac and Zoloft.

Anyone who claims pit bulls are just like other dogs and “it’s not bad dogs, it’s bad owners” has never seen a pit in the “red zone.” It is nothing like normal dog aggression, they’re almost shark-like in their attack methods and they will not stop until the target of their aggression is killed or they are. Anyone who lets children play with them unsupervised should be LOCKED UP.

Another idiot that knows nothing about dogs. Breeds are like races, just better, in the sense that if you own one, you are likely to know what characteristics your dog has. It’s true that Pitbulls have been bred to be combat dogs, however they are able to be good pets, if they are raised since they are pubs. However in order to do that successfully you would have to be a disciplined master, not an idiotic SWPL or some other stupid imbecile that knows nothing about breeds. Enjoy your toy pets and cats.

Keep trolling. Do you want me to also link you to photos of children’s faces that have been shredded into unrecognizability by your “good pets”? Please, tell me about all the kids and babies that have been mauled by cats and non-violent dog breeds. This is really not the place for your misguided activism.

You are right that the goal for a good pit dog was aggressiveness towards dogs, yet submissiveness to humans. After all, humans stepped in to pull the dogs apart during fights.

There is supposedly some uncertainty about whether all dogs who are not raised with children, are able to recognize them as small humans, rather than “something not too dissimilar in size and behavior” from another dog.

In any case, after the usual idiots outlawed dog fighting, the kind of people involved in breeding and training pitbulls often aren’t the most savory of characters anymore; so expecting too much nuance in their programs. And doubly so from dogs that has already been dumped off at some yaptrash recycling center for being “incompatible” with their former idiots.

I don’t know if you are a woman but for sure you argue like one…hysteria and strawman arguments. First no one said they are like other dogs. The owner NEEDS DISCIPLINE and COURAGE himself or herself if they really want to keep one. Second due to decades or ruinous breeding practices, they are more prone to violence, unfortunately, hence the need for a different kind of treatment. You cannot treat a pitbull as if it was a terrier. Third only a retard would dare to own an adult pitbull with a shady past. I would only own one if I had him from BIRTH or just a few days old. The same applies for Dobermanns, Rottweilers and almost any large dog breed.

It sounds like you know nothing about breeding. Just because an owner can control his own dog doesn’t mean the dog is safe if it’s loose. As far as training and controlling animals, Seigfried and Roy did it very well until one day a tiger that he worked with decided to attack Roy. The guy’s a mess now and even had a stroke from the attack.
And stop talking about toy dogs you low class slob because all of the breeds were bred for a purpose even if that purpose was companionship. They have different traits and it’s all due to breeding. And besides, if a toy poodle reverted to its wolf nature you could easily kick it while a “pitbull” would kill you. Normal dogs are slower to react (and don’t have the same bite) so if a kid pulls a golden retriever’s tail it may just ignore it, a pitbull will believe it’s an act of aggression and immediately attack.
They respond to anything like it’s an attack. It may get stung by a bee and attack its owner.
If I were to accidently step on my normal pet dog’s foot he would yelp but become submissive and come over and lick my hand. A pitbull will attack you.”pitbulls” are a mongrel breed of various mutant bloodlines that would have been eliminated in the past. No shepard or cattleman would want a dog that could kill his livestock and herding dogs just bark to move the animals or intimidate them into moving never biting. A border collie who attacks the sheep is destroyed.Some herding dogs live right with the sheep and protect them from predators. That’s not a pitbull.
And don’t tell me about the nice pitbull you know because this “breed” is so messed up that it’s probably 3/4 goldern retriever and you think it’s a pit.

@Dawg Comparing dogs to tigers…how nice…and idiotic. Look, I have been owner to Rottweilers and German Shepherds, as well as mixed breed dogs (dogs that belong to no identifiable race) so don’t tell me I know nothing about dogs. Second, “toy dogs” breeds, even though they were “created ” for a purpose are a disgrace, they cannot feed or defend themselves or their masters in the state of nature, even if civilization collapses.

Second I never said these dogs (Pitbulls) were appropiate for children or even women so stop using strawmen on me.

Have you ever seen a bull(or even a wild cow)? Most of these terrier type dogs were used to kill rats. The slumdogs at the time may have fought them or did bull baiting but that was made illegal in England along with boxing until the rules were made humane (Queensbury)

I know many women that want a dog that even their boyfriend should be afraid of. Many breeds will achieve this, my ex loved wolf mixes. What does that say about them, and should you be reading the signs ahead of time unlike a dumbass like me? YES.

This is a common case of ‘bad boy syndrome’. These women think if they just Looooooooveeeee a bad boy (drug addict, gambleholic, alcoholic, abuser, control freak) enough they can ‘change him’ and ‘save him’ and make him a ‘good guy’. They think the same thing about pit bulls, the canine ‘bad boy’, if they just lllllooooooovvvvvvvveeee the dog enough they can looovvveeee and train the aggression out of it and make it a ‘good dog’. But the sad truth is this almost never works with bad boys, and you can’t lloooovvveeee or train the BREEDING out of a dog either.

I know many women that want a dog that even their boyfriend should be afraid of. Many breeds will achieve this, my ex loved wolf mixes. What does that say about them, and should you be reading the signs ahead of time unlike a dumbass like me? YES.

Pitbulls are the SUPREME alphas in the dog world, the same way Black men are the SUPREME alpha in the homo sapien. And that’s WHY we are seeing trends of SWPL’s and their growing affinity for both. Physical dominance can not be denied and its DESIRED by ALL WOMEN in their choice of mates and even more routinely now in their choice of pets. CH has truly done a good disservice to himself and this great blog with the widly biased, hypocritical, hateful post. Hating black men because of the aggressive behavior that was neccessary for them to have value (biological and financial in American history) is one thing, but hating a species of dog because of how it has been bred and or trained is a whole different level of beta-ness. White men who hate pitbulls are the same as feminist who hate womanizers.

What nonsense. I quote: ” hating a species of dog because of how it has been bred and or trained “.

Firstly, breeds of dogs are not “species”. Species, by definition, do regularly interbreed, and do typically produce fertile offspring. So dogs are to themselves a species (or you could argue that they are the same species as wolves, but they do not regularly interbreed if only because humans normally prevent them from doing so. ). But breeds of dogs are not species, any more than races of humans are.

And, more to the point, if pits have been bred and trained to be nasty, that does not make them any less so than if it had just happened. Technically, you could argue that they lack moral standing to be hated. This is a narrow definition of hate that precludes hating anything but moral agents, i.e. all or some humans. But in normal parlance, “hate” has no such requirement. I hate mosquitoes, but that does not mean that I hold them morally responsible for what they are and what they do. So, there is nothing inherently peculiar in hating pit bulls. Moral responsibility, OTOH, goes to the people who breed and/or keep dangerous animals.

This is getting a little pedantic, but since you do not see the obvious, it was called for.

Bwahahahah! The white men took you as slaves and then also the white men GAVE you freedom. Just like the white men gave the native indians chicken pox, now the powers that control the world, unleashed the black virus upon the world via the welfare state.

You are not alpha, you are just angry. Oh, and also you suck more cock than Shakira. True story.

It’s not about hating pitbulls. Were it not for our black alpha in chief and his henchmen, I’d be the first to open a dog fighting arena. It’s a cool sport, certainly not boring. The dogs love it, the audience loves it, and it improves the breeds bred for fighting purposes. For those few remaining rationals amongst us, that’s what’s called a win-win-win.

But of course, the thugs will come gunning for me if I did, supported by the same rabble that thinks breeding a dog so that every cell in it’s body wants nothing more than to mix it up in a fight against another, only to turn around and force it to be a sofa pet, is somehow proper animal husbandry. “Because it feeeeeeels gooood….”

haha @ Bob. BUT, we currently have a BLACK president and Blacks are at the TOP of every sport that they choose to participate in, despite being less than 15% of the population. A form of ‘man made’ Natural Selection was indeed apart of the slave process (the same way agreesive/dominant genes have been bred and ‘favored’ in pitbulls) and now you’re on the internet hating a Dog because it symbolically resembles ALL that you fear (dark skin, dark clouds, America’s dark history). It appears that these “bottom dwelling” blacks have a subconscious affinity for this breed of dog because maybe its past is representive of ours.

Black men Alpha? lol It takes brains to be Alpha not just some animal brute strength. And btw, the Caucasian is the physically stronger and healthier man. It’s just that he’s smart enough to know that getting his head beaten in from boxing or some sport for a 1 in a million chance of making some money is rather stupid when there are so many other ways to make money. How many elite combat troops are black where it takes both physical fitness and brains? How many airline pilots are black? How many top surgeons are black? I guess it’s all discrimination lol

If you could figure out how to perform the vascular microsurgery necessary to reconnect all the capillaries so that a skin graft could take hold over something like a silicone artificial nose, or a silicone artificial ear, then you’d be looking at a Nobel Prize in Medicine.

Seriously – losing your face is no laughing matter.

And yes, I’m glad that Heartiste chose not to link to the pictures – facelessness is one of the most horrifying conditions in all of medicine.

SWPLs live such isolated, sheltered lives that they haven’t learned a sense of danger. So they trollip through this life,oblivious to its hard edges. They romanticize stupid shit because to do so reassures them that everything is simply relative.

That said, if you have a ranch down in TX or whatever, I can see you keeping some horses. I can see you even raising dogs. But city slickers living in small apartments keeping dangerous dogs is cruel to the dogs and dangerous for the owners, not to mention the neighbors.

There is also a cleanliness issue. Humans living in such small quarters with animals might not be such a good idea anyway. Is there any wonder why their homes are so filthy and usually a mess? I’ve yet to see a woman who has a dog/cat and also has a clean home. They’re usually slobs and their homes smell like cat shit or dog shit. Yuck!

Our parents never let us have pets, whether we stayed in our country home on weekends or the city, and our homes were always neat and spotless.

Sleeping with the dog or kissing it is pure filth. Can you kiss her after she kissed the dog? LOL! So disgusting. How can men be with women like this.

Another thing is they walk the dog barefooted. Both she and the dog step in it and bring it back inside. In any gated community there is so much dog shit outside. Liberals have no qualms about filth. That’s why they enjoy 3rd world countries, donating time and even having sex with the locals. Liberals – all of their behavior is connected from their politics to their hobbies to their lifestyle.

Yes. There is a whole area of psychoanalysis around young women’s fixation on horses. They’re a powerful psychosexual symbol of virility. But at the same time, they function as a “safe” and sexually nonthreatening stand-in for a man until the girl is emotionally mature enough to accept the attention of actual men. Kind of like a less gay version of Justin Bieber.

And straddling that horse and having the riding motion rubbing their clit is nice for them too lol Why do you think we always made females ride side saddle? They get all worked up on the horse and then start raping innocent boys :o)

These are the same people like that woman from New York who went to the Middle East by herself to take photos and wound up dead. Most of the world is dangerous compared to the US, and most of the world hates Americans. Yet most libtards think nothing of doing goodwill missions in war-torn Africa, thinking they’ll be fine as long as they’re helping people. Protip: There probably aren’t gated communities in Rwanda.

Let’s say she wasn’t having an affair, but if her husband wasn’t such a fucking beta loser, he wouldn’t have let his wife go on a trip alone anywhere, whether a foreign country or a neighboring state. What’s up with that? Now he’s crying about how loving she was, what??? A loving wife goes alone and leaves her hubby and children? I sometimes wonder what constitutes love in the minds of lefties, betas, feminists, and all-around-progressive thinkers?

some woman you CAN trust and idolize just before you get to that point you must test the shit out of them make hardship happen go through a bad time on purpose don’t make it all roses and candycains on puspose so when the time come you got to go through some real shit she will pass

@ gramps
@ gunslingergregi
Idolizing and trusting your woman is one thing. But it’s irrelevant to the situation at hand. It’s just an odd story, don’t you think? What kind of woman goes to a far off place (dangerous one at that) without her man? And what kind of man allows this, no matter how much he trusts her? It’s just not normal in traditional marriages. However to progressives, it’s nothing out of the ordinary. In fact, they often go on separate vacations. I’m sorry, if you’re married you shouldn’t go on separate vacations. It ruins the relationship, the togetherness, the whole feel of it. Call me old-fashioned, but I think a woman should stay by her husband’s side.

@Anonymous
That’s the whole point of it. He sounds devastated. Really? Devastated? How clueless can one man be?

The people involved are so weird.

@driveallnight
I was suspicious that perhaps they were broke and she was going to Turkey to work, and he was watching the kids back home. She was a photographer, so maybe she was supposed to sell those pics when she gets back.

Still laughing. I guess I’m not the only one who smiled and sadly shook his head when I recently read a local woman (7 months pregnant with twins) was “inexplicably and suddenly attacked” and killed by her beloved pit bull. Who had always seemed so friendly, so luving, so GOOD WITH CHILDREN, up until that sudden vicious attack.

I have a house full of guns, and not a one of them has ever decided to fuck someone up or kill them on their own initiative. Plus, there is no enumerated right in the Constitution to keep and bear carnivorous animals.

You can’t compare dangerous dogs with guns. Dangerous dogs have no use other than it makes their stupid owner happy for some reason. Guns, on the other hand, are used for protection. Just because some crazies sometimes uses them to harm others is not reason to punish everyone.

Well now, Lily. Surely dogs are used for protection, on several levels, from giving the alarm (even a miserly chihuahua can do that) to actually defending the family. But there are lots of breeds more suitable for that than pit bulls are.

Statistically, pits are much more likely to mess up your own kids than to mess up an intruder. Even Dobermans and Rotts are better for protection purposes, because they’re much more responsive to training, much less likely to “go red” (aka lose their minds and attack something they haven’t been trained to attack) and their bites are less likely to completely remove human faces.

Raven, corvinus, Lily, I think you misunderstood SOBL1’s post. SOBL1 is saying that people defend pit bulls despite the fact that pit bulls are inherently dangerous, yet those same people’s heads would explode if you asked them to defend guns, which are inherently less dangerous.

Oh, and you’ll love this one, a local PETA animal shelter rehabilitates pit bulls. Using SWPL donations, it hires an expensive dog training specialist to come in every day to work with them, until they are ready to adopt. Each adoptee must sign a bunch of paperwork absolving the shelter of any legal responsibility if the dog goes nuclear on ’em.
A few of the pit bulls have been certified as completely unredeemable. Of course they are reluctantly euthanized. OOPS! I mean, they are kept for the next 10 years in very nice pens in the shelter, get their time with the dog specialist, their special walks, special food, and basically soak up the donations and time of the shelter. Otherwise, the shelter would lose it’s “no-kill shelter” bragging rights.

If only liberals were as eager to help their fellow human beings as they do animals, this whole world would look different. Liberals have more compassion for some critter than they do their neighbors, especially if they’re white. A brown neighbor would get partial sympathy compared with the critter.

They have such misplaced sympathy, which is why they are often cruel to whites.

I know their irrationality and their hypocrisy, and it makes me explode at times – the level of lack of sympathy and compassion they show fellow human beings, while getting bent out of shape over animals. Their treatment of other human beings negates everything they say they stand for. It’s all a sham. Fuck ‘em.

Disclosure: I believe animals should be protected from abuse and exploitation. They’re helpless creatures, and their existence deserves respect as God’s creatures. That said, human beings come first though. Just wanted to make sure people not think I dislike animals or that I don’t care if they get abused. Quite the opposite. Anyone who abuses animals should be punished severely.

That disclosure was bull-crap. LMAO. And if you gave two cents about any other species of animal on earth, you wouldn’t be saying half of what you’ve said. Tea Party Cunts like you DO NOT care about any people who are not white and def DO NOT care about animals, the environment or anything else natural. Your desire to participate in conversation with men here clearly displays that you have a hormonal imbalance.

I say this as a soft-hearted animal lover (I cried my eyes out when Ol’ Yeller got it): PETA are evil. They’re far more committed to trolling and getting attention with naked ads than to actually protecting animals.

True to a T. I met this one girl in college and she’s on facebook these days. She lost a ton of weight, but not nearly enough to justify the raging case of ‘tude she’s nursing. The other 1/5 of the posts she makes involve one thing: how pitbulls don’t deserve the “stigma” attached to them and all people who don’t want to own one are bigots swear word swear word etc. And she wonders why she’s single.

She’s a professional dog-walker too as if the above wasn’t bad enough. She spends all of her free time getting another slooty tattoo, dying streaks of her hair neon something, or taking bong hits. Those constitute 2/5 of the posts she makes. The final 2/5 “why won’t a REAL MAN do the right thing, MAN UP and marry me but in a way that totally recognizes my independence.” The hamster is strong in this one.

It’s all come down to the war on reality. “Women want nice, submissive guys. Big angry dogs are perfectly suitable pets for children. Being fat is beautiful.”

Some people can’t accept that some breeds of dogs were made to be let out of the cage in the general direction of something you don’t like. The wiki on pitbulls is especially unhelpful as to what they were designed to do. All I could gather is that they were bred for the explicit purpose of being big and aggressive.

However, the article goes on and on in defense of the breed, arguing against invisible enemies (they already baleeted the contradictory information). Some pro-pitbull-activist must have spent an afternoon copy-pasting articles from google onto the page and erasing the credible info. Reality hurts.

“War on reality” sums up Amerika and the West in general these days as well as any three words can. Makes me think of that gif of the guy pounding his keyboard until he finally smashes himself to a bloody pulp against it.

That’s the perfect example of the useless woman. You date a loser like this and you become a beta loser yourself. Her brain is unable to fathom her mistakes, she can’t see herself for the unmarriageable crap she is.

Spot on. I shot one off my wife in a SWPL-ish family member’s living room about ten years ago. The fucksticks found it in the parking lot of a grocery store in the ghetto and brought it home.

My wife was petting it, and when she got up to walk away it went for her face. She got her arm interposed in time to save her face, but there was blood on the walls and ceiling. I grabbed it by the collar, put my USP Compact .45 to the top of its head (behind where my wife’s arm was in it jaws) and blew a 230gr HydraShok through its useless fucking brain bucket. There were molars on the floor that came out the exit hole.

I only wish the motherfucker was still alive so I could shoot it again.

It’s nice, but I’ve switched over to a Glock 19 for daily carry. I like having parts, magazines, holsters and such very readily available. Try getting an HK serviced sometime and you’ll understand why we say their motto is “You suck, and we hate you.”

My wife was petting it, and when she got up to walk away it went for her face. She got her arm interposed in time to save her face, but there was blood on the walls and ceiling. I grabbed it by the collar, put my USP Compact .45 to the top of its head (behind where my wife’s arm was in it jaws) and blew a 230gr HydraShok through its useless fucking brain bucket. There were molars on the floor that came out the exit hole.

Not really. It was an aunt and her husband, a 450# stereotypical whiny hypochondriac Jew who also happened to be a fucking idiot. I saw them once every three or four years prior, andI have not seen them since except at funerals.

The rest of the family, being of middle- to upper-middle-class Saxon descent, has approximately the same relationship with each other that a sockeye salmon has with its offspring.

I, for one, like it that way. My wife is the pretty, smart crab that climbed out of the WT bucket, and her family is correspondingly clingy, which bugs the fuck out of me. They have their WT get-togethers somewhere else, and all is peaceful in my domain.

And it makes sense you haven’t seen them since, I feel like family get-togethers would be kind of awkward with the whole “yeeeah, so remember the time your dog tried to rip my wife’s face off and I splattered its head all over your living room?” moment.

Hey I found an old recipe from the Aztec who used to eat the Xolo as food. This will piss off the SWPLs badly. On the one hand they love dogs and find eating them terrible, but on the other hand, how can they possibly be intolerant of a different culture, especially the Aztec who are the rightful owners of Mexico, before those intolerant Europeans came along? Now if you could only do the same with pitbulls…

Heat a griddle over high heat until a drop of water sizzles on contact. Add the tomatoes and roast, turning several times, until blackened on all sides. Remove and let sit until cool to touch. Working over a mixing bowl to catch any juice, peel off the black skin, cut and remove any seeds. Coarsely chop into large chunks and add to a food processor or blender. Add the chilies and the dog stock and process until coarse.

In a large skillet, heat the oil over medium high heat. When hot, add the garlic and onions; sautée 2 to 3 minutes until soften. Add the tomato chili mixture, cumin and nutmeg and stir for 3 minutes to heat. Reduce heat to medium; add shredded dog and simmer uncovered, until, most of the liquid has evaporated, about 8 to 10 minutes. Season with salt.

After some kosher billionaire donated $100 million tot eh Sierra Club tin return fro them retracting their opposition to mas immigration,I understand it went to shit,busying itself with bullshit instead of good solid environmental care.

I see a lot of surly menacing looking latino guys that look like they could bench a whole lot coz they just got out of jail with pitbulls. It looks stupid and trashy.

If a spindly pasty hipster boy walked around with a pitbull it would look stupid too. He’d look emasculated compared to the dog.

But heartiste, you shouldn’t hate pitbulls so much. You could probably pull off owning one. You are likely far away enough from trashy that it would not provoke the “ghetto” image. If you walked around with a pitbull, it would be ok. Wouldn’t be like compensation. Might even make you seem sexy.

Google hyena men in the image search. Read about this. I see pictures of hyena men and in theory, I want to fuck those guys. I reality, I won’t do this. But in theory, hyena men are automatically sexually appealing. Yeah, I get that they’re retarded, but it doesn’t matter.

A fighting dog has been bred to kill with prpejudice and trained further for it. Dogs like that aren’t redeemable and need to be put down. We put down thousands of dogs and cats a year. I think this kind of charity should be outlawed. I’ve seen well behaved pit bulls, but I personally don’t trust them. They will turn on you in a second and are extremely lethal. If these photos look as I believe them to be, I can well imagine the rage. All of us would feel it.

White women are regularly battered, raped or killed by violent black males whom they had taken under their wing because they thought they could save those black males from “bad circumstances”

some sites specialize in documenting such cases and there are new ones everyday

the same mental dysfunction makes white females adopt dangerous pitbulls and end up disfigured

Women tend to make irrational bad choices and they endanger themselves

feminism by letting women loose like a kid in a candy store has only made it more obvious that women need men’s guidance and protection, almost as much as children need guidance and protection from adults

I LOVE women but I am not blind and stupid; women need men’s guidance and protection

No. Their fighting history has left them wired up different to other breeds.
They go from calm to rage and attack at the flick of a switch. Anger in normal dogs is a continuum.
They don’t feel pain, so they will fight/attack till they are killed.

You don’t believe that shit until you’ve seen it. The one that bit my wife went from tongue-lolling, back-rolling, please-oh-please-scratch-my-ass-wannabe-Labrador to the fucking canine T1000 in less than a second, with no provocation at all. Those dogs aren’t wired right. Too many years of being selectively bred for asshole behavior by nigs, spics, WT, et al.

The poster who mentioned US Dobermans being much softer-tempered than they used to be is quite true. My grandfather had a pair of them in the late 60s-early 70s that I just barely remember, they were outside guard dogs that were meaner than rabid rattlesnakes. His party trick was to throw them a couple of golf balls. They would crunch them in one bite like big fucking Everlasting Gobstoppers and happily shred the rubber cores.

All the ones I know now are giant pussies…which is perfectly fine. Nigs are still scared to death of them.

I’m starting to see Gypsy beggar guilds pop up in DC, in Metro stations and in toursity parts of the city. And Gypsies are the one racial group I have hetherto never seen within the global cumbucket formerly known as America.

Due to essentially free immigration within the EU, Northern Europe is now being swamped with Bulgarian Gypsy beggars. And they are typically “trafficed”, i.e. managed by somebody who pays their train fare and houses them (don’t ask under what conditions) and takes most of their collections.

You’re way off base. The breed gets a bad rep because thugs teach the dog to be dangerous. Raised outside this environment they tend to be pretty docile. In the early 1900’s they were known as “nanny dogs” and were trusted as companions for babies and children. They, like most dogs, are protective of their families, but they aren’t as territorial as a Doberman, or as prone to take the lead in violence as a German Shepherd.

Pitbull sounds tougher than Doberman or Rottweiler which, along with their legendary tenacity and resilience to pain has led to their popularity as fighting dogs. Ultimately the dog will follow the lead of its master, so if it has been trained to fight and then adopted by a SWPL with beta-tendencies it will wind up very confused and afraid, leading to maulings and deaths. Anyone can train any dog to be violent. Stick to what you know, you are spreading misinformation here.

And here’s the truth about nanny dogs-a lie so HUGE, so OUTRAGEOUS, even it advocates are backing away from it. Historical records of pit bulls date back about 1000 years (there was a pit dog ban in London in 1400) and the FIRST use of the term nanny dog dates way back to 1971; from the mouth of a pit nutter and breeder: http://www.thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/search/label/nanny%20dog

I live in a slummy neighborhood and there was this porch monkey clan on the corner with five pitbulls in a yard with a low fence. They would always charge the fence growling and barking when anyone walked past. The ‘boons thought this was the funniest thing in the world. One of the younger boons actually did a couple month stint for animal cruelty because he tossed them a kitten. The noise coming from the house was ungodly. They were never allowed inside and they never stopped barking.

I did the neighborhood a favor by soaking some hotdogs with anti-freeze and giving the dogs a treat while the ‘boons were gone.

Shooting it would be a quicker death but it would also be noisy and cause the cops to come and lock the shooter up for up to 10 years for animal cruelty. Stop being like some SWPL chick and FEELING for these stupid vicious animals and THINK.

Of course you would poison the dog, while “the monkey clan” members were away. You’re a puzzy. hahaha! I bet you wouldnt have the courage to even look a juvenile monkey clan member in the eye! Pitbulls were handed down to low-income minorities just like housing projects and pants sagging.

I am SWPL? I think not. I had what I believe to be a pitbull for 11 years, and an SPCA rescue to boot (that’s why I don’t really know for sure what she was). Best damned dog in the world. A real man’s dog. A little imp-ish, protective, loving, and I do believe a product of the environment she was raised in. We got her at three months.

She was good pre-red pill training in some ways. She was an alpha in waiting and asserted herself, but in the end, always deferred.

I won’t status myself with some costly, pedigreed and papered dog. She was chosen because she was a puppy and how she interacted with my 7 yo son in the mandatory, pre-adoption “get acquainted” session.

that said, I’d never get a pre-conditioned dog of volatile breed. They can be re-trained, but it takes a certain man to do it.

Pitbulls are pretty nuts. And if you *did* want to rehabilitate a pitbull, the way to go about it is with alpha dominance, not submissive love and attention. See how Caesar Milan treats his dogs (not his wife).

What else can ‘calm-assertive energy’ be but the dog equivalent of ‘amused mastery’?

Cesar Milan loves pitbulls and always encourages his viewers to consider them as normal dogs. That’s one of his many mistakes, along with not applying his pack leader mentality on his ex-wife.

A pitbull does submit to alpha dominance, but it takes a heartless thug to tame the beast (and even then, he might get chomped). Most women on the dog whisperer are ridiculous when they try to be alpha dominant.
A swpl airhead will get a rehabilitated pitbull, try to be alpha for a while because she watched a couple of Cesar’s episodes, turn into a loving caring gina tingle-driven follower because the pit is such a bad boy, and then someday, he will attack her or the neighbours’ kids because pitbulls gonna pitbull.

Yeah, I always had to laugh at how beta he was around his wife… and scratch my head, seeing as how she wasn’t any better than a 6 at best, looks-wise… and attitude brought that down a peg or two, but what can you expect from someone named Illusion… lllozozozozollll.

His magic around dogs always impressed me, but there was one show where he had a particularly unstable dog he brought to his rehab center and without warning the entire pack of usually calm dogs went nuts, to the point where even he had his hands full trying to restore order… and who knows what they didn’t show on TV in re that incident.

There is no way a woman can be dominant enough to tame an animal like this. I wouldn’t trust hanging around a dangerous dog who’s been trained by a woman. They really need to hear the strong voice of a man to obey, and even then it’s not a sure thing.

This stupid lefty behavior reminds me of the idiot that went to live among the polar bears to prove they can be just as docile as humans if they “perceive” that you don’t want to hurt them, as if animals could perceive anything other than their next meal. Well, after a year or two of living amongst the polar bears they ate him for dinner. As far as I am concerned, a stupid lefty proved his case – animals are not human.

Not long ago there was this woman in Jasper National Park who was, with her teenage daughter, feeding a bear regularily in her back yard.
To make matters worse she was a park warden/ranger! Such stupidity. lol
One day the bear decided it wasnt quite full and attacked and ate their beloved dog. The story unraveled and they were found out — it was a BIG local story..she was fired too.

And, more closer to home, a friend of a friend was walking his dog after dinner one night in his neighbourhood and 2 pitbulls, well-known to him..and escaped from their yard again, came running down to the street and proceeded to attack his dog.
He was prepared with a 6 or so inch hunting knife and plunged it into the neck of the first dog. It staggered away badly hurt while he took on the second dog. It was on top of his dog and with a bunch of choice stabs he killed the thing. Then he went running after the first one and finished it off too.
No witnesses..and his dog survived…pretty badass night for him.lol.
Alway the pitbulls you hear about in these kinds of stories…

These stories only prove that as much as some of us love animals and enjoy them in our lives, they’re not human beings and people need to recognize and respect that. We just don’t know what is going to make a usually docile animal go off. We can’t change an animal form what it was designed to do, just like we can’t rehabilitate vicious murderers and terrorists. Lefties don’t understand this. They can’t accept that there is such a thing as bad or evil in the world. Leftists = no wisdom.

Shepherds varies vastly with the dog. When I was around 10, our neighbours had one that was nuts. I once cycled by, the critter came running and bit my thigh. When we were visiting (including my parents) everybody had to move slowly or the freaking dog would start up – ir not NECESSARILY biting anyone. So, yes. Remember they were bred to be guard dogs, for sheep and property. Police dogs. Thug dogs. Etc.

Dobies in the US are bred to be “softer” and less aggressive. MANY years ago, long before I was born, my Mom knew a guy who picked up a Dobie female in the street, hit by a car. Paid the vet bills, it was his. She was called “Lady” and had a job — watching the little kids of the street who paraded up and down including a toddler hanging on to her stumpy tail. In the US Dobies are mostly pets, are hugely attached to their owners, and want to be with them all the time. In the US guns beat dogs mostly (outside ghetto losers) for defense and dogs are for companionship/love.

In Europe Dobies are “sharper” and far more aggressive. Pit Bulls were originally bred to watch over kids; but rampant backyard breeding for fighting made them the huge danger they are today. I would not want one anywhere near me.

Meanwhile great dogs in shelters go unadopted and euthanized. That SWPL chick would have done better to adopt some Shelty or terrier that needed a home.

One of my exes got one while I was on vacation a few years ago. I told her to take it back when I got back and you paraphrased her rationalizations perfectly in this post. She thought she could ignore the guidelines through sheer force of love and the damn thing broke through a screen door 2 weeks later and decimated her favorite cat. I, of course, ended up having to take it to get put down.

There aren’t many people with the confidence, knowledge of dog behavior, and gravitas to control a pitbull properly. While it’s true for other breeds, you especially have to be on your shit and an emotional rock if you decide to get a dog like this. There can be no uncertainty as to who is running the joint and no anxiety or fear about what the dog is capable of. A weak-minded herbling coupled with a large, strong dog capable of inflicting massive trauma is a recipe for disaster.

I worked in a vet clinic during high school and I remember the pit bulls that came through were generally pretty good-natured but hyperactive. We had Rottweilers when I was growing up too, but we also had a half-acre, guns and my dad put the fear of God into them. I think the problem is the girls adopting these dogs don’t have the size, strength, or just the overall commanding presence or temperament to handle big, energetic, strong and dominant dogs. Bars that allow dogs inside have to fucking go as well.

An uber-feminist animal crusader ex of mine recently adopted a pit bull. I honestly think it’s just a way to project her “caring” nature by adopting an “abused” animal.

The thing that bugs me the most is that pit bulls are just a commodity amongst the SWPL crowd. It’s the “cool” thing to do. What would happen in a couple of years if the “in” dog is a chihuahua? Would these people give up their pit bulls for another breed? Would they keep both pets and hope the pit bull doesn’t maul the smaller one? You shouldn’t own a pet because it’s the subject of some crusade that ups your hipster cred. You should own a pet because you connect with it and also have the capabilities of raising it. Most of these hipsters could probably fuck up raising a cat, yet they think they can control and own a dog that has the capability of destroying you? Nice one.

Chiuauas ARE a fashion. I have seen young women wearing them as fashion accessories. You cannot WEAR a pitbull. But Chiuauas are at least not disgusting, merely obnoxious. The disgusting ones are the hairless Chinese whatchamacallits. I address the dog and ask it “how did a pretty dog like you end up with such an ugly owner” and let the chips fall where they may.

Judging by your avatar and your receeding hairline, its funny that you would use the fact that it’s hairless as the primary reason its disgusting. Im sure younger, hot chicks look at YOU and think the exact same thing.

On hairlessness: Even the Chinese whatchamacallits that DO have hair (they exist) are pretty awful-looking. And somehow I am sure Yul Brynner did not have a hard time getting laid. (Yes I know, I am not Yul Brynner)

I grew up with a pit-bull and another X. They’re super cool dogs, full of energy and personality. But you have to dominate them or they’ll dominate you. They’re a bit like guns; only for the responsible and experienced.

If the idiot woman wants a tough looking dog/man substitute, get a boxer or a Bull Mastiff. That will soothe her crotchal area burnings with a dog who looks like a freight train in dog form but won’t eat her face for breakfast.

They’re hideous and look dangerous so niggers like to raise them and treat them like shit. those ‘rescue’ dogs are not for these fucking white liberal guilty as fuck ‘weekend adventure” types. ANy rescue dog should be kept far from these Park Slope idiots.

But Pitbulls aren’t as bad as people imagine and the myths about their bite are ridiculous. No they do not have the bite of a jaguar..

Size, shape and muscle attachments. Jaw muscles on a pitbull attack further back on the skull, giving it more leverage and bite force. I’m glad to see there are a few people here who seem to think further than “pitbull = niggers and I hate niggers”

The trouble isn’t that they attack their owners. The trouble is that often enough they attack innocent bystanders — including children.

I’ll agree with you on the above point, but “alpha”?

Alpha what? Male? Dog? Animal? Re-read the host’s many gracious explanations of what constitutes a (human) Alpha Male. The most we can conclude is that contemporary pitbulls are, due to a combination of breeding and “training”*, psychotic, vicious animals.

*training – I put this in quotes because I am convinced the vast majority of pitbull owners don’t actually train their dogs, they just treat them in a manner that confuses the dog and leaves its aggressive tendencies undiminished.

This 9 that lives down the street has chosen to have a MAN and a DOG that keeps her hampster wheel rolling indefinitely. Dogs who attack children should be controlled and or put to sleep. PBs are the epitome of alpha in the dog kingdom.

They CAN be great dogs, it you get them when they’re a puppy. Pit bulls are protective of the family, surprisingly gentle, and good with kids. Heck, they even have the nickname “nanny dogs”… but you couldn’t pay me enough to take some rescue with an unknown shitty past. If you fuck up a normal dog’s head, you might get a nip. If you fuck up a put bull, you might lose your face, they are just that powerful. That’s why they get such a bad rap. It isn’t as if they are born unstable – just powerful.

Sure it is sad, but these pit rescues, especially ones with fighting history, should simply be killed.

Exactly. A friend of my mother’s has had a pit bull since it was born, and it’s a sweet dog. But I agree that it’s bad news to adopt a pit bull as an adult that was (Presumably) owned by assholes or abused. My ex’s PB was abused by its previous owners – How long before it has a “mood” and lashes out at her?

Tuna, I definitely agree. I think the unspoken truth is that most of the pit bulls who get the bad rap for attacking an owner or a stranger are mostly the adopted or rescued ones. A pit bull that is raised from birth (or from when they are 4-6 weeks old) in a stable quiet environment is rarely the volatile violent creature that is popularized to be. I also know one who is pretty sweet but maybe its an outlier because for every one I have seen that is gentle are 10 more raised by ghetto and/or white trash thugs who think it is “badass” to own one. Shelter and rescue dogs are a crap shoot regardless of the breed.. Hipsters having pit bulls has still not caught on in Canada….hope it stays that way.

oh and while we are talking dogs I have a white fluffy teacup Pomeranian…you do not want to be in its vicinity while its eating…it gnarls its little teeth and might bite your hand…food aggression at its finest/worst.

There’s nothing good to be said about today’s pitbulls. Yeah, yeah, 60 years ago they were great at watching children. Who gives a fuck. Today they are owned by idiots, thugs and thug wannabes. Anyone who has ever taken a dog to a dog park with pit bulls knows how much consternation they cause before the inevitable attacks on a cute lab puppy or their owner. Of course stupid Swpl chicks are into them- is there any other possible scenario? It’s also a lock solid guarantee that their male owners have either a stupid barbed wire tattoo or a inexplicable tribal tattoo. That’s a f’n guarantee.

Pitbull owners should be met with disgust and contempt and if you can get a male owner away from their dog – should get their ass kicked.

In the end though, Like many other parts of society all in all just best to stay
away.

Also, I live near the PETA headquarters, so I see this very regularly. I get a chuckle almost daily on the way to work – Some young, dumb, misguided hipster/lesbian/vegan/tatted up girl getting pulled around by some huge dog constantly pulling on the leash… this is in the “good neighborhood” i.e. the SWPL neighborhood full of coffee shops and far-left liberal douchebags who desperately wish or pretend they are actually in Williamsburg NY.

They CAN be great dogs, it you get them when they’re a puppy. Pit bulls are protective of the family, surprisingly gentle, and good with kids. Heck, they even have the nickname “nanny dogs”…
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Right. If Im not mistaken, both the Lil Rascals dog, and the dog that served as the icon for the first record players was a pit bull.

Personally, I blame niqqers for forcing people to breed mean dogs.

Mean dogs are one of the most effective forms of “niqqer proofing”.

Not for nothing, I think the South Africans made the meanest dog ever to exist.

”Petey” was a pit bull:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_the_Pup
The ‘official’ AKC name for them is ‘American Staffordshire Terrier’, they don’t recognize the ‘pit bull’ moniker for registration purposes. Other than the term it’s the same breed.
BTW ”Spuds McKenzie” of the Bud Light ads and the Target stores mascot are also Pits.
The SWPL crowd adopting a ‘ghetto’ or other Pit may have an ugly surprise coming to them in their homeowner’s/renter’s insurance policy; many such have a ‘no dangerous dog breeds’ (such as Pits) clause that could bite them in the ass if a liability claim is filed against them. Or when they try to renew the policy.

The Spuds and Target dogs are White English Bull Terriers and have nothing in common with pit bulls. They are a cross between bulldogs and an extinct English white terrier.
A little bit of googling would have avoided that error.
They are both on the dangerousdog list because both have a fighting legacy. That said Bullterriers have less bite instances than almost any other breed unlike pit bulls.

Source: I had this African international student friend who thought it was hilarious the way westerners treated dogs as “pets”, she was so scared to get close to a dog for the longest time and it was because dogs were not treated like pets back there, they were treated like mean beastly guarding machines.

There were also the random dogs that no one could ever ascertain who the owner who would just randomly roam the street, they were skinny with ribs poking out and lanky legs lol (kinda like doggie imagery of the world vision kids)

All I require of a dog is that he wake me up if he detects fuckheads in the perimeter. A small dog performs this function just fine with minimal training, and they don’t eat much, are easy to keep stench-free, don’t shed all over everything, and live about twice as long as a big dog. What’s not to like?

Speaking of dogs, props to my dalmatian for being the best fucking wingman in the world. I got her from a friend and started calling her “boy” because I thought it was hilarious. Whenever a chick asks why I say “because I wanted a boy dog but she was about to be put down so I got her instead”. BAM! Instant pussy wettage. No more ASD after these dumb sluts meet my dog. Thanks, boy!

The other says “Man, like these people I lived with had this kid and that motherfucker wouldn’t back off, always fucking with me. One day I’m laying there sleeping and little brat comes up and yanks on my nuts. I just lost it and bit the kid, right in the face. So they putting me down. What you here for?”

The first says “I live with this hipster girl that “rescued” me from a shelter. She always doing yoga in the living room. So one day, she was in this position with her ass in the air. I jumped on her back, pinned her, and fucked her for 30 minutes.”

Kidding aside, studies have shown women’s sexuality is more free-ranging than men, hence the way they easily slip in lesbianism.

I would venture to say a good number of women are have some sort of sexual attraction to these animals but don’t realize it. I’d even go further and say some are having sex with these dogs. It’s very easy to find women online who built entire careers around this: google “Bilara.” It’s naive to think the women next door isn’t doing it too. Passionate feelings often equal sexual action.

The stupid girls who get pit bulls may deserve the maulings they get, yes, but not the innocent bystanders who walk down the street minding their own business until somebody’s loose pitbull attacks them. Especially all the innocent children who have been disfigured or even killed by these monstrous beasts. Pit bulls should be banned IMO.

I’m surprised there aren’t *more* pitbull activists trolling this thread…I have a few on my FB feed and they constantly post the most ridiculously aggressive nonsense. One of the worst offenders posted something like “Jeffrey Dahmer: blond white man. Brad Pitt: blond white man. Yet we don’t call Brad Pitt a serial killer. Why do we accuse all pit bulls of being vicious?” I was like “When blond white men start eating kids’ faces 10x more often than all other humans put together, I’ll start to worry about them.”

Ooooohh, I can ring this bitch’s neck, she makes me so mad. More proof lefties, no matter who they are, Barak Obama activists or pitbull activists are the most illogical types walking the planet. Let’s face it, she has no leg to stand on, which is why she use a strawman argument. The sad thing about it is that many simpletons fall for the left’s propaganda on all fronts and issues, and that’s the reason the country is going to hell. People are so stupid they have no idea how to dissect and evaluate an argument to see if it really makes sense and worth supporting. The left throws one-liner fallacies so that misinformed dupes will support the left’s polices. The country is going to hell because of bitches like her.

Just to share a funny story, my girlfriend has a pitbull. She adopted it because her roommate’s boyfriend, who was the owner, was banging two other girls at the same time and bounced when one of the girls got pregnant. I once met the guy and he’s a shining example of the alpha male. The roommate, who was hot but is hitting the wall, is so perpetually irresponsible that my girlfriend adopted the dog. My girlfriend is SWPL, too.

On the subject of SWPL – What the fuck is up with vegetarians and vegans feeding their dogs and cats specially made organic vegan food? Just because you don’t want to eat animal products doesn’t mean your pet feels the same way. I can’t help but feel it’s cruelty anytime I see a bag of vegan dog or cat food in someone’s apartment.

It’s also a scientific fact that the eggs that are vegetarian fed can cause allergies in people who have Celiac’s disease. My nephew has it really bad and the “all vegetarian” eggs can cause him to have all sorts of problems.

I think “vegetarian fed” is just meant to reassure people that the chickens weren’t fed ground-up pieces of other chickens, which (according to some nutritionists’ opinions) can result in some pretty gnarly diseases.

Exactly. While a person can consent to their dietary needs, their dog can’t give the same consent. Even though the food might be “healthy”, the dog may be hurting inside by not getting a “complete” diet.

Eh – dogs are in essence neotenous (developmentally retarded) wolves. They are omnivorous, but get most of their veg from partially digested material (animal poop) and innards, which are digestible by wolves, as well as containing loads of enzymes and other probiotics. Google the BARF diet for dogs, which approximates the balance of a wolf’s natural diet. FWIW, the theory is that all dogs are essentially allergic to grain, and a grain based (i.e. commercial dog food) diet leads to many health problems experienced by modern dogs.

Feeding your pets vegan food is animal cruelty, full stop. It causes bone deformities in dogs, and blindness and death in cats. That is SWPL madness at its worst and they should all have their torture victims removed from their eco-friendly vegan homes.

SWPL are simply trailer trash that were born in privilege. That are the flipside of the same coin.

Look of the similar behaviors of the two:

TT – Rack up material possesions such as HD tvs and muscle cars on exhorbent predatory loans and government welfare.
SWPL – Rack up even more expensive toys except they do it through their credit and homes.

TT and SWPL – Their worldviews are ignorant and rooted in unrealistic self confidence. They only function within their own ecologies and break down when used on the world at large.

TT and SWPL – Have no objectivity in their belief systems and denounce all outsiders. It’s just that TT do so based on race and SWPL exclude based on political ideals that somehow always benefit themselves.

I’m sure the similarities go on. It seems that the bell curve rule applies to all spectrums of economic class. Estimate 80 percent of both the well off and poor both revert to their own behaviors of stupidity while 20 percent have the intelligence to not be swept up into bad paradigms. In the Anglo category, 80 of low class will become some sort of TT while in the mid-upper class 80 percent will travel to SWPL-Land.

The major difference is TT do not insist on inflicting their torture on the rest of us.

But other than that, yeah, SWPL are wealthy white trash who are desperate to appear more intelligent or ‘real’ than they really are. TT know they fall short and don’t care, SWPL are desperate to prove to everyone around them that they’ve “made it”.

Thanks for addressing this, I’ve been seeing for years all these women, and I suspect it’s more the high-T type of gals?, who are involved in the crusade for pit bulls. They’re either adopting, financing shelters, crusading to rehab pits image, etc. “They’re misunderstood!” That’s the same thing all the prisoner groupies proclaim. These “bad boys” aren’t REALLY dangerous, they can be so loving, don’t ya know? Maybe what the pro-pit crowd says is 100% true, but regardless, it’s interesting how their ‘plight’ attracts so many women, and makes an interesting study.

1. The “toy dog” phenomena of rich, spoiled celebrity bitches. While rich, spoiled women have always seemed to enjoy yapping, snapping,tiny little fag dogs (see , for example, the evil but honest Leona Helmsley, or any stereotype of pampered princess society babes from movies and TV), in the past 20 years, it has become de riguer for many non-society celebrities to have toy dogs on display (notably, porn star Paris Hilton used her toy dog for attention—pretending it ran away, then “finding” it). Like the adopted Chinese girl or the black/mixed-race baby (“the Chanel of babies!” as that crappy-but-truth-talking show Absolutely Fabulous put it), toy dogs are status symbols.

However, since the toy dogs represent the spoiled celebrity bitch, SWPL fags went the polar opposite, because they’re not “rich”, they’re “poor artists” (“Mommy? Can I have 6 months of rent money?”). Like when everyone had a Jetta and suddenly Hummers became popular.

2. It’s also in response to the pet phenomenon. David Brooks, despite his faggy cowtowing to fascism, has correctly pointed out that we keep a lot more pets today per person than 50 years ago. Partially that’s nature kicking in—since we’ve moved off the farm, but had thousands of years both on the farm and hunting, we’re trying to satisfy that part of our nature that trains and controls animals.Partially its to fill the loneliness of not having a large family around (because we don’t live around our families any more AND we don’t have as many children/any at all AND people divorce so easily and don’t stay together AND we don’t engage in communal activities like church). Partially, and secretly, it’s for protection—given the enforced diversity in our lives and neighborhoods, heck, a dog as an early warning system/potential protector might seem useful against those “sons of Obama” and Trayvon-look alikes (ahem, I mean Evil Racist Rednecks!).

3. Caesar Milan/pet rescue status whoring. Milan’s shows are very good, and are aimed at SWPLs trying to “lovingly” help dogs (hilariously, Milan often has his biggest challenge in convincing the SWPLs on his shows that dogs should be treated as dogs, not people; his second is showing that discipline is an aspect of love, and not disciplining is a sign you actually abusing a dog.) Other shows have followed suit, trying to make a buck off of showing SWPLs how to raise a freakin’ dog.

SWPLs thrive on altruistic status whoring—the charity of the week. A TV-sanctioned, illegal immigrant-sanctioned, non-english speaker sanctioned charity? Sounds like a winner for the SWPL set.

4. Covering up for black people. “Gangsta” worship amongst SWPLs is fierce. The worship and lack of criticism to the almighty dark gods is well-nigh a postulate amongst this set. But black people disproportionately abuse pit bulls and make them fight. How to keep the Evil Racist Rednecks from “exploiting” this “hate fact”? Simple. Save the pit bulls that the black people make into killers–change them. You thus reduce the ammo that Evil Racist Rednecks have against the master race, and also get the chance show that “nurture”, not nature, is king—and a SWPL can deny any data that doesn’t fit the argument. Claim any “unsavable” dog is an aberration (without sighting data) or else “needs prozac.”
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The bad part about all this is that it will rarely be the SWPL owner who faces the direct consequences of their dumb idea. It will be the SWPL children in the neighborhood, who will get mauled. This may lead to a direct conflict—SWPL dog “savers” versus SWPL helicopter parents. The results will be full-blown “trials” where SWPLs argue about how “dogs have rights” and “putting down a dog doesn’t bring a dead child back.” Older SWPLs whose children are killed will realize the folly of their ways, but will be outshouted by the Occutard crowd.

One of the few saving graces of SWPL neighborhoods was their safety. Now, with the pitbull lovers around, that may be going the way of a left-wing male with testosterone.

I’m a German Shepherd owner myself. Have a few friends who own purebred American pitbull terriers. The breed can be trained by those who are knowledgable (and honest) about it’s fighting history. In fact, I’ve seen a few at a local French Ring club that perform right up there with the best European working line sheps. They can be good working dogs/companion animals for a select group of experts.

Overal, however, I’d say that this is not a breed for motst. The SWPL set and thug are the last people in the world who should own a dog with thishigh a prey drive. And anyone who tells you it’s “all how you raise them” is to be ignored. The breed has been selected for off the charts prety drive. It takes a This is 100% genetic and has nothing to do with how they are raised. Owning one requires training, constant management, tons of excercise and honesty about the inherent aggression of the breed. These SWPL types have no business owning such a strong, capable animal. Leave em’ to the select few who can channel all that energy into something positive

The interesting thing about the Cult of Leftism’s relationship to blacks is how it is turning into a circle:

First, it was eugenics. Blacks were inferior, they should be bred out of existence (abortion, paid sterilization, anti-miscegenation laws, etc.)

Second, some argued that nurture was to blame. Black communities were bad, but an individual black could be saved. SWPLs should take blacks away from black communities, and raise their children, and all would be well (see the film Rabbit Proof Fence). Black criminals could be saved, too, all through “education.” Black communities should be cordoned off from non-black ones to prevent the dysfunction from spilling over (Jim Crow).

Then, Hitler happened, and Eugenics became taboo, especially any talk of any race’s deficiencies. Blacks were now absolutely equal to whites in the Cult of Leftism. The only reason, therefore, that they were doing so poorly was whitey holding them down. Black prisoners weren’t bad at all, but victims (See: Radical Chic).

Now, however, we’re back to some SWPLs claiming the black community is poor and causing problems (of course, they still insist that the cause of the poor black community is Evil Whitey), but that individuals can be saved by taking them away. SWPLs move to adopt black babies, and, here, black-owed pitbulls.

It will be interesting to see if the SWPLs go whole hog back to eugenics.

he bad part about all this is that it will rarely be the SWPL owner who faces the direct consequences of their dumb idea. It will be the SWPL children in the neighborhood, who will get mauled.”””””””

yea i walking with my buddy in texas san antonio it was just before daylight and 2 big fucking pits came out nowhere and where in front of us growling
my friend actually ran lol but yea i stood and yelled at the fucking dogs and they left i called the cops and they didn’t seem to concerned i was like it is getting ready to be school time and kids getting ready to go to busstops and got these two big pits on loose.
they sent someone but cop didn’t look very hard i don’t think there was even law against it was while ago
not as good as the shooting pit story i bow down to my better he he he

People will never learn or evolve to be responsible as a race living in a modern civilisation unless it’s enforced top-down, because so many actions have no consequences for the doer, yet they affect the well-being of future generations. Primitive tribes had to plan for the future as a group. Modern people in capitalist democracies have to plan for the future as individuals only, no exceptions, and if they try to take the welfare of the whole group into account they will be at a serious competitive disadvantage (in relation to other individuals, politicians, or corporations with less ethical conduct). So even the few people with foresight and a good heart are being weeded out or forced to adapt.

So if you’re one of those people who argue that libertarianism corresponds to the state of nature and should therefore be implemented you’re talking out of your ass. It breeds selfishness instead of altruism. Individualism instead of collectivism. Deception instead of honesty. Irresponsibility instead of responsibility. It’s the complete opposite of natural in every way in terms of its effect on mankind.

Classical liberalism is an obsolete ideology from a time when our biology and psychology were poorly understood and the capacity of the planet to support a 21st century standard of living for billions of humans was not taken into account. Has anybody attempted to revise it for modern times? Yes, they have. It’s called socialism.

Libertarians should move to Liberia to see what a totally “free” society looks like. They’ll be the first ones lined up along a wall and shot dead for their electronics if they ever get what they want.

Had two options, go to big event at a nightclub or hang with some friends. Had a big red pill moment. I foolishly chose to hang out with these friends. I figure, ya, cool man…they’re naturals/good with girls/blah blah blah. So, my friend AFCRog gets in the car and then we go to their house to ‘plan’ the night. AFCRog is in an annoyed mood, and I’m like ‘what’s wrong?’ He shakes his head ‘this is going to just suck. we’re going to end up doing something lame with their dates.’

His prophecy came true. These guys took us to play bingo. Now, remember when I said I get ‘pushback’ from this group. That’s definitely true. Like, these natural guys hold themselves out as being dominant, awesome, etc. But idk, this forever changed my view of them. One of them, probably the ‘best,’ natural is with HB6Asian…but only because he couldn’t keep another girl, HB8.5. And it hits me…I’ve seen this over and over with him. While it’s true he may hook up with the occassional HB7+, those are always short-term. What he can keep around are always HB5-6’s (full disclosure, a lot of people disagree with me about HB6Asian being a 6…but meh, idk…I think she’s a 6…others think lower).

And I take a good honest look at them. Like, the AryanTall is a really tall, pretty good looking guy. His girlfriend — while really feminine and nice — is, y’know…kinda chunky…maybe like a 5.5. I look at the other one, and his girl — while really feminine as well — is just…well, he doesn’t like her very much and just can’t leave her.

And here we all are, playing bingo. So….my other friend that I’m doing this project with — Nightly (previously FatBoy lol) keeps txting me like ‘wtf are you doing, wtf is wrong with you, CLUB CLUB CLUB!’ I know he’s right. So, after wasting an hour of Friday night….I just announce at the end of the game that I’m outtie. They pull a bunch of the usual stuff against me — first they try to shame me, then the try to ignore me. But more and more my inner emotion is becoming ‘lol.’ Me and AFCRog bounce (they stayed to play more bingo…lol).

AFCRog has a near red pill moment. He says he wants to bang some girl within our social circle who’s probably a 4.5, and I respond by saying that ‘ya might be tough, she has high standards.’ And he’s like ‘what HOW DO YOU KNOW?’ And I was like ‘just hearing how she talks about guys in general, she’s pretty harsh…I mean, I dunno.’

Then he goes on this rant: “Fucking girls are such a stupid race of people! How inflated can your self-worth get? These bitches need someone to tell them that their life is shit, and I’m gonna be that guy.”

For a second I ponder letting him in on the project, but then he goes on to say that he thinks gender roles are stupid and societally defined or whatever. So then I just inwardly lol and keep my mouth shut. I tell him that he should come to the club instead….then he goes on some sort of ‘what’s the point’ spiel.

I’m done with it. I drop him off and head to the club to salvage what of the night I can.

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I get to the club…say hi to the people I know. One of the girls in my social circle — a really nice, feminine, but chunky 4.5 — that I just do the whole ‘flirt mercillessly’ thing with is there. But hurro, she brought her HB6Lovely friend. And the first thing 4.5 does is just like……..hug me, play with my hair, talk about how she loves me, which kind of immediately sets the frame for HB6Lovely to just be like ‘ya do mind if we just gangbang you right here.’ It was kind of a whirlwind few seconds, because HB6Lovely also starts touching me — while 4.5 seems drunk, HB6Lovely seems to have had a drink or two — and suggesting getting a picture kissing me. Then after that, they girlcode and decide they’re gonna go to another club. They invite me, but I decline. It’s not like I’m not going to see HB6Lovely again. I’ve got cold approachin’ to do.

Nightly is at the club…however, Nightly is drunk. Great. Nightly is also hanging out with another dude who seems solid, but probably anti-game. So, Nightly opens a girl, and Anti-Game starts talking to the girl. I lol to myself and quickly distract Anti-Game while Nightly does his thing. As soon as I get Anti-Game away from Nightly’s set, I use the 3 second rule. I’ve decided to change it up…

Now, I’m viewing the entire first few seconds as actually establishing rapport. Not necessarily deep rapport, but definitely ‘shoot the shit with this guy’ rapport, which is why breaking it later has an effect. That’s the theory, anyway, and why I’m starting to get why multiple threads/stacking is important.

3 second rule followed, first set nothing special, two 5.5’s past their prime:

Me: Hey, I can only stay a second but can I get your opinion on something…

Them (now they routinely turn toward me and want to hear)

Me: (acting surprised) Wow I can tell you guys care about one another, you all turned at the exact same time….

Them (they look at one another and chuckle)

Me: Yeah, friends usually have similar body language, and you guys are mirroring one another.

Them: yeah, we’re friends, blah blah blah

Me: Well since I’ve been here, two girls have asked me for weed…

Them: What….weed?

Me: YEAH, Weed! So I mean, do I look like a drug dealer?

Them: Well, hm, I don’t….no…

Left 5.5 — Well, turn around…turn around…

Me (don’t know how to disobey the command verbally and in a cool way, so instead, I just…eh…’flamboyantly’ turn)

Left 5.5 – Yeah, NO — cause a drug dealer wouldn’t turn around like a ballerina! (right 5.5 laughs)

Me: No, SHE’S the really crazy one out of the two of you…I can tell. Like, if we were in a relationship and I inevitably cheated on you, you’d probably stab me, whereas you (indicating Right 5.5) would just yell at me or something.

Left 5.5: Psh. I would cut your dick off.

(This time I’m better prepared)

Me: Well, would you like just put it in the garbage or in the blender and make it into a dickshake you would drink so that NO ONE COULD EVER HAVE MY DICK AGAIN?!?!?!?!

Left 5.5: (kind of recoils with smirk) Uh, I would put it in the blender but I wouldn’t…

Me (makes gurgly nomnomonom slurp slurp noises) mwahahahahaha I drank the last of his dick forevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar.

Right 5.5 laughs and shakes her head.

Left 5.5 suddenly goes to the bar to get a drink, leaving me and Right 5.5.

Me: Now it’s just me and you…

Right 5.5: Well she’s going to be right back

Me: ME AND YOU FOREVER. ALWAYS…

Right 5.5 (obviously I didn’t smile big enough because she kind of lets out a nervous laugh….so instead, I just turn and look over at her)

Me: Hey, I’m gonna be you right now. This is you. This is how you look.

(I just kinda stand there holding my drink…she likes that)

Me (realizing I don’t have much else to say…I just shift down into smaller talk…goddammit Scray)

Blah blah blah….soon enough she goes to join her friend at the bar. I make a mental note that the only way I’m going to be able to get them to stick around and not leave is if I build some type of attraction.

Nightly opens a set…some late 30’s woman with two other friends. I immediately move in to distract the obstacles. We kinda keep anti-game out of the equation. I’m doing my thing, distracting her friends, when he’s like ‘oh is this guy bothering you? he’s drunk, he’s drunk!’ At first I’m like lol am I getting Amogged off these ugly cougars. Then he whispers ‘….and they’re ugly, I made a big mistake, eject, eject!’ So I’m out.

Next set, 7.5 with wedding veil, 7 just standing there, leaning against a couch, buzzed 5.5, and some fat guy in the circle with them. Here we go.

I do the opener….my approach has me standing a little close to the 7, but whatever. I go through the material….do the girl coding thing. Somewhere during the middle of this interaction, I introduce Nightly — ‘this is my best friend, he saved my life once, smartest guy I know…’ and he occupies wedding girl and fat guy

7: (flat) yeah we’re good friends, it’s her wedding.

Me: (to the bride to be or whatever) NICE! Congrats, enjoy that white dress while you can!

(5.5 laughs)

7 seems put off by me lol.

Me: (to the 7, indicating the 5), she’s the crazy one of the group eh?

7: I don’t know.

Me: (If I shall be blown out, I will go out guns a blazing) Hey, are you fucking crazy?

5.5: What?!!?!

Me: You seem fucking insane!

5.5 (laughing) Noooooo, nooo way!

I actually forget this part of the interaction, but somehow, someway I was saying something and

5.5: ….blah blah…but I have asthma!

Me: (laughing) No shit, my ex-girlfriend had asthma! YOU CAN’T RUN FOR SHIT, BITCH!

7 makes an almost disgusted face, me and the 5.5 laugh and high five

7:…no, she ran a 10K last year, okay, she’s actually really good at —

Me: YOU RAN A 10K? HOLY SHIT YOU’RE SOME SORTA CYBORG! I RAN A 3K! FOR REAL! THAT’S SOOOO COOOL!

Set is now invaded by some other woman who pulls the girl in the wedding veil, who had been occupied by Nightly. The woman grabs wedding veil, who directs everyone else out of the set. They’re gone. I didn’t even get a name. Fuck. AGAIN.

That’s it for Friday.

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Saturday:

We’re hanging out for a friend’s 29th birthday who can get us into some clubs for free. Sweet. Me and Nightly go up to the club.

Here’s what I’m starting to notice about the club scene —- truly hot girls are fairly rare. I mean, they’re in the club, but it seems like they’re almost always on the dancefloor. But I’d say at least 70% of the girls in the club are like…fat/chunky/unattractive. Whatever…

Me and Nightly quickly notice that friend’s entourage (we know a few of them) are just…well, AFC’s. They don’t talk to girls, they stand in a circle with their drinks held up to their waists. Whatever.

Nightly opens a two-set…I wait a few minutes, and then I come in stupid…addressing him instead of the set, which gives them a chance to just scurry away. So…probably too early and doing nothing to help him.

My turn — we’re in an outside area, it’s cold — I open a group of 4 girls. Target is a 6.5. I run through the stack, nothing seems to stick…one of the little girls keeps pushing me back toward the opener. When I get to the ‘ur crazy, if we were in a relationship you would…’ thing, this fat uggo tools me and says ‘wait, do u have weed?’

Me: All the world’s weed

Her: Naaaah

Me: Okay, I don’t even know what that is.

Her: WELL THEN GET THE FUCK OUT!

They laugh. Inwardly I just have to roll with the punch. I eject soon enough.

We go inside…Nightly opens a two-set. I go in to distract the obstacle immediately because he got them while they were walking. I notice that the obstacle is pretty cute…like a 6.5. She’s from Norway. HB6.5 Norway (she’d be an easy 7 is she lost like 10 pounds — why is everyone so fat lol).

I run the stack on her, it seems to go well, she laughs, she leans in to hear what I’m saying. She wants to find someplace to sit, so I just have her sit on this counter with bars (the booths cost money).

After awhile, I start to just think she’s polite, which is why she laughs and leans in and blah blah blah. Because I’m just not getting very far with it.
I run out of my stack when we’re sitting there, so I just attempt to riff.

‘So tell me your life story in five words or less.’

Her: (laughing) No, this is impossible..no…

‘Just do it you wuss…’

Her: No, No, I cannot.

I just fall silent then….she resumes conversation

Her: Why don’t you do this?

Me: My life story in five words?

Her: Yeah

Me: Awesome, Fun, Party, Boning, Blowjobs.

Her: (laughs)

Me: All right, your turn.

Her: No, I still don’t think I can do this.

I fall silent again. She thinks…finally she says stuff. I don’t remember…

Her: Something, something, love, no regrets.

At around this time, where I’m struggling to get her attracted or put my best foot forward, or whatever, a few of our buddies show up. To our horror, they are the most anti-gamers who ever anti-gamed. One charges through to Nightly’s target

‘WHAT’S YOUR OCCUPATION?!’ said like a maximum chode.

Our other friend comes over to me and HB6.5Norway and I introduce him, accomplishment style. He stands there and starts to dance. I say he won a regional dance competition, and HB6.5Norway seems interested. So, I figure…hey, if this girl isn’t into me, maybe she’ll be into him.

He immediately contradicts the story, then refuses to dance, despite our urgings. Norway says she likes Interpol, to which I say I hate her and tell her to go away (the whole roleplay thing got laughs from her but like…when she went away, I was actually worried she wouldn’t come back, and she only slowly came back)

My friend on the other hand gets in her face like ‘hey, how could he hate you, you’re so beautiful.’ She recoils….I start to think their presence could be a huge DLV for both me and Nightly.

Norway keeps asking for somewhere to sit…she asks if outside has somewhere to sit. Friend says ‘yeah maybe’ and then she leaves. Of course when she goes outside, Nightly’s target follows. Then, they both come back cause it’s cold out there, then they talk to these guys who paid probably 1000 dollars to sit in a booth, and they let them sit with them.

Phuck. Set busted.

Moving on….

next club has more talent.

I follow 3 second rule and open a girl…she’s older, probably early mid 30’s and probably like a 6. She’s unfortunately on her phone. I say what I say, she doesn’t respond. Time to get blown out. I wave my hand over her phone and she looks up, agitated. I try to smile and say ‘hey can I get your opinion on something?’ She just flatly says ‘no.’ Lol. Moving on.

Next set is the first hawt girl I’ve seen all night. Like 7.5-8. I go over there. There’s a guy and a girl in a wedding veil there. So I open all of them. It goes fine. Then, she says she’s from the country and that she hunts.

Me: I hunt with a bow and arrow only.

Wedding girl: I’m calling bullllshiiiiiit

Guy: Gotta agree

Me: -what?-

Wedding girl: What do you do when you kill your prey?

Me: I fucking leave it there.

Wedding girl: YOU’RE NOT A HUNTER AT ALL!

Me: I HUNT TO INSPIRE TERROR IN MY ENEMIES AND LOYALTY IN MY FOLLOWERS!

They laugh at that

Me: Watch out guys, apparently I just ran into the night club’s game warden. No one cap a deer and leave a carcass on her watch.

Wedding girl laughs….I start talking to Hawt girl….I do the whole ‘you’re a hairdresser, you’re crazy’ and she seems -laughingly- shocked at being called crazy, at stabbing me, etc. But then she’s like ‘yeah i’m from the country so yeah….’

Some guy comes and does the -right- thing and sits next to her on the couch. Fuck. Good move, rival to the game. I wonder where Nightly is to wing my set. He’s behind me, talking to one of our friends. I’m wondering…wtf.

Hawt girl asks if I’m from the city, and I say yeah. She says she’s going to school here to be a nurse. I tell her about my program, and she’s impressed. I also say that an ex was a nurse blah blah blah, we can’t get along. She laughs.

She lets slip that she has a fiance and shows off the ring. Fuck. I could eject, but I dunno. I think she’s kind of into me. I mean, I dunno. I stick it out. The guy next to her actually chimes in, tells her he’s in the army.

Get this, hawt girl uses my exact line on HIM! Like, ‘oh we can’t be friends because my fiance is in the army.’
An awkward minute passes as I figure out how to change this situation.

Then finally I say to the guy ‘hey, now none of us can be friends you asshole, goddammit!’

This pulls her attention back to me. I notice that whenever I break rapport with her, she’s quick to seek it out with any of the other — now it’s three/four — guys around her. FUCK. Where is my wingman?!?!!?!? it’s not like she knew any of those guys. Anyway, soon enough, a friend of hers comes and takes her away. And I’m left in the cold again.

I turn to Nightly…and he’s like ‘dude, trust me…anti-game here was going to be a horrible obstacle, he kept saying that he wanted to talk to the girl you were talking to and help out. trust me.’

Whatevs….just move on.

Nightly has been fixated on this woman and has called her ‘hot’ all night. She’s okay…like a 6, but she’s clearly past her prime. So my job is to distract her fat mohawk friend…and let me just say…yck.

So here we go. I do that. It’s terrible. I try to engage her in conversation and stuff, but she’s one of these fatties who has high self-worth. What can you do with that? lol. I just sort of try to be her friend, but she’s real stand-offish about it. Anyway, I just have to distract until her bf arrives.

…

Then, later Nightly goes outside with this woman. I have to distract a chode who comes out there to talk with them. Easy enough. Long story short, Nightly wants to stay there and pursue this woman at like 4 in the morning. Reality check: she has a 20 year old kid. She’s divorced. She’s not worth it. He goes over there and tries to talk with her one last time, then just comes back — I don’t know what happened. We leave.

—

One of our anti-game friends got real cozy with a 4 ‘cougar.’ He seemed to be really proud of that. He showed off a txt she sent him about her making him wet. Me and Nightly looked between one another and were like ‘that’s awesome dude, get it wet.’ As soon as we dropped them off though, I’m like ‘dude………..we have no choice. we HAVE to try this….or that’s our lives. right there.’

I guess I’m just gonna have to stack more routines, maybe work on body language shit I’m missing. I dunno.

It’s hard for me to keep total track of my body language throughout the set. In general, I tend to stay facing away from the group for a little too long I think…even after people face me. As far as Kino goes….there isn’t much of it from me yet. I mean, I’m trying to add the ‘hand on shoulder when you laugh’ stuff when they laugh, but not much beyond that.

“I tend to stay facing away from the group for a little too long I think…even after people face me.”

Face them when they earn it. So if a girl says something funny (like the 3K girl high-fiving you) or complies with a hoop you want them to jump through, reward her with turning toward her and giving her your full attention and eye-contact etc. It’s weird how much of a difference this makes, but it does make a big one.

The problem is most guys go in facing the girl head on right away and she hasn’t done shit to earn it yet so he comes off as needy. She wants that challenge of like “okay here’s my 5 words to describe myself! Yay!! He turned to me, I won his approval!!”

“As far as Kino goes….there isn’t much of it from me yet.”

Don’t stress it too much yet, but try to work on it a bit. Right now there are like 50 different little categories of things you can work on, and if you go out trying to get better at all 50 things at once, you’re going to get overwhelmed and fuck up a bunch. But if each night out you take 1-3 things and just be like “okay, tonight I’m going to work on leading and cutting into her space” and that’s your main focus for each set for the night, you’ll slowly build each of these things up.

Always go to the nightclub. 🙂 I learned it the hard way with my own bingo-night equivalents myself lol I’m happy to hang out with a couple beers and pizza and play X-Box with my buddies…on a Tuesday night. On a Fri/Sat night? Fuck that. There’s gorgeous chicks and fun adventures out there.

My main Natural buddy and I have rules like we NEVER bring chicks out with us, even if it’s some chick we’re trying to bang. Don’t bring bread to the bakery. Hook up with her at 2am if nothing pans out, or hang out with her on a Tuesday. Or get it done BEFORE the bar and send her home early enough to go out and find new girls lol

“These guys took us to play bingo.”

lol’ed so hard when I read that. Like I say, I’ve been in similar situations. I’ve had points where I’ve literally left halfway through whatever gayness and been like “lol this was fun and I love you guys but I’m young and single and there are titties out there that need motorboating, so I gotta’ jet. You all have fun, peace!”

It’s part of why I hate house parties lol They’re always a few average girls with 5 orbiters each begging for her attention all night while everyone gets shitfaced and I’m like “man, I would rather be sober and at a club right now, this is retarded”.

Like I say, on a Tuesday night or some shit, cool…but on a Fri/Sat? I’ll choose “being surrounded by a bunch of chicks”, thanks.

“Like, these natural guys hold themselves out as being dominant, awesome, etc. But idk, this forever changed my view of them.”

lol and the myth of the Natural starts crashing down for you. 🙂 This is good. The more of these guys you meet and hang around with, the more you’ll realize that they really aren’t these amazing badasses that you and everyone around you hyped them up to be. Hell, often they do some pretty lame shit. But they just happen to have better game than most guys and, in very specific scenarios (where they have situational confidence like being in their favorite bar or being in the social circle they’re the leader of, where the girl is already giving them eye contact so it’s a warm approach, etc.), they have a really solid set of skills they apply.

But they’re nowhere near as amazing as people think. They don’t shoot lightning out their butt.

“While it’s true he may hook up with the occassional HB7+, those are always short-term. What he can keep around are always HB5-6’s”

Yup. Thing is, a lot of them don’t MIND that…like, the Naturals with really high sex-drives are just as happy with a 5 as they are with a 9, as long as they’re getting their dick wet consistently.

You’re a “Thrill of the Hunt” guy rather than a “Pleasure of Sex” guy. I’m the same way. I just can’t get into hooking up with a <7. It's gross and embarrassing to me.

"keeps txting me like ‘wtf are you doing, wtf is wrong with you, CLUB CLUB CLUB!’ I know he’s right."

lol. Good on you.

Also something to consider is that that's one more reference experience you earned of "doing what I want to do, despite the social pressure to not rock the boat or look like a jerk". In the past, you might've just stayed at Bingo because you didn't want anyone to be mad at you or to look selfish etc. It's good to develop that "You know what? I want to go do this, so I'm going to go do it. Sorry if you have a problem with that, but I won't apologize for living the life I want to live."

"Then he goes on this rant: “Fucking girls are such a stupid race of people! How inflated can your self-worth get? These bitches need someone to tell them that their life is shit, and I’m gonna be that guy.”"

lol see this is the way a lot of guys go when they take the red pill. Just rage and anger and hatred for women and they end up approaching them from a place of just shitty negative bitterness. It's terrible and I don't like hanging out with guys like that.

I love women, I think they're awesome. They're flawed, but I understand their flaws so that's okay. They're just trying to get by like anyone else in this big crazy world of ours. Life is too short for all that anger.

"For a second I ponder letting him in on the project"

Be careful about who you let in. First thing any of us wants when we find out about game, is to let all our buddies in on it and encourage them to approach with us and stuff because we're like "man I found a way to do better with girls, of course I want my buddies to all know about it!" But the resistance/push-back you'll get on it, from guys who would benefit from it the MOST ironically, is huge and frustrating.

A guy has to hit rock-bottom before he's ready to do what you're doing.

"I just do the whole ‘flirt mercillessly’ thing with is there."

Good, you don't have to fuck her but there's nothing wrong with flirting. Even a 4 is social proof to a 10, as weird as that works. Like you'd think to a 10 only a 9+ would be social proof but no, for whatever reason, even having ugly girls wanting you makes other girls want you. It's pretty awesome when you realize that lol

"And the first thing 4.5 does is just like……..hug me, play with my hair, talk about how she loves me"

And your first instinct was probably "oh shit, get off me!! I don't want HB6Lovely to think I'm into you or that we're together ahhh fuck off you're going to ruin my chances with–"

But:

"which kind of immediately sets the frame for HB6Lovely to just be like 'ya do mind if we just gangbang you right here.' It was kind of a whirlwind few seconds, because HB6Lovely also starts touching me"

huh. Lookit that lol 🙂

Also when the frame is set (ideally by you) that it's okay to talk about sex and flirt and hug and touch eachother etc., girls will fall into that frame and open right up. I grabbed a # from a chick in my social circle this weekend who my buddies (AFCs) think is a totally innocent nice Good Girl. She has that look and isn't sexual and doesn't dress slutty and wouldn't be into a guy like me or up for casual sex, etc. Has a total virgin vibe. But we have good chemistry and I can tell she'd be hot if she DID do herself up.

So anyway, I grab her number and within a couple small txt convos I have her agreeing to come over in lingerie under a trenchcoat literally just to bang.

Meanwhile if those guys got her number, they'd be taking her out on a date where she'd be wearing a turtleneck sweater and shit and they'd talk about puppydogs and ice cream.

But why is my "version" of her that I get to experience so different than theirs would be? Because I set a very sexual non-judgemental frame from the beginning and I make sure to qualify her so she feels special and she's able to loosen up with me and get into the roleplay of being a little sex-pot sex object for me. It's win/win for both of us, because we'd both rather get laid and have fun than go to some boring dinner…she just needs me to create a situation where that can happen in a way that she won't feel guilty about it and instead will feel empowered and happy about it.

"They invite me, but I decline."

Good. Don't chase pussy. They want you Orbiting them allllll fucking night because it's a huge validation high for them. It just makes you look like a chump and frustrates you because you have to watch all the other dudes Orbiting them. Notice that often when they want to leave to another bar it's because they aren't getting enough attention from enough men in THAT bar lol

If you decline, you can stay and do your thing, and they have no idea if maybe you're hooking up with another chick. You can always txt them near 2am and be like "Denny's at 2. You guys in?"

If I want a # I'll usually go "No, I'm staying here. But gimme your # incase this place sucks and we'll hang out later." I don't really care if we hang out later, they'll probably be drunk/annoying by then, but now I have the # and the next day I can txt a "how's the hangover lol" and work some txt game from there.

"It’s not like I’m not going to see HB6Lovely again."

Excellent attitude. It'd be different if she wasn't someone in your social circle, then it might be alright to chase. But not if you're going to see her again at some point, eff it, meet new girls.

"Nightly opens a girl, and Anti-Game starts talking to the girl."

lol. This kind of stuff is why when you FIND a good wingman, he is worth 1000000 women. Like, never choose a chick over your wingman or fight with him over a girl because he is so fucking valuable. Two guys with solid game and solid wingmanship skills and a solid friendship (which often you can develop just through gaming girls together, like if you meet a dude at the bar randomly and click as wingmen)…they can do a LOT of damage together.

Imagine having to hang out with Anti-Game here as your only wingman ever. Fucking painful lol

"I use the 3 second rule."

Excellent! Keep that up. I still have to remind myself to use it.

"That’s the theory, anyway, and why I’m starting to get why multiple threads/stacking is important."

A solid way to run it. You'll find a lot of laid back (Owen Wilson type) Naturals do this…they naturally expect everyone to be friendly to them, so they just roll up and shoot the shit with no outcome in mind and build some comfort/rapport right away and work from there.

VS the flashy guy who goes up and spikes her temp right off the start and all that.

The problem to watch out for is that you'll get categorized as asexual right away…both because you're short and because you're approaching with a "shoot the shit" vibe. So you'll have to consciously shift into actual gaming once you snag an ioi or two, or you're just going to end up having a ton of "pleasant conversations", but no Attraction.

Like this method you're thinking of will make opening easier/smoother, but it'll make transitioning into a sexual vibe harder because you're almost purposely putting yourself in an asexual role you'll have to dig out of.

If you want to try it out for a bit, try doing it for the first few sets of the night and then make a conscious effort to start going a little more direct with your next sets (not full out direct, but just get right into spiking Buying Temperatures and teasing and emotional rollrecoaster stuff).

Just remember: If you're doing this method and you find you're not getting any Attraction, just "pleasant interactions", that's a direct result of this method and if that frustrates you, you'll have to switch back to something more direct/aggressive that sparks sexual Attraction.

"Me (don’t know how to disobey the command verbally and in a cool way, so instead, I just…eh…’flamboyantly’ turn)"

Note that, like right here, there doesn't have to be any logical transition from your weed opener to your hairdresser routine. Like, a lot of guys think "oh it'd be weird if I just started saying this, I need to make it smooth and make sense" but girls don't work that way. You just interrupt yourself or them with whatever new thing you want to say…if your frame is strong, they'll just fall into it and roll with the new conversation thread.

"Me: No, SHE’S the really crazy one out of the two of you…I can tell."

Good, switch up your target if the one you're talking to isn't playing along. This is Group Theory. If you can get the friend to play along and love you, the one that was being a bummer will chill out and join in the fun. Often you'll find the hotter girl is kind of stoic/lame, and the uglier girl is more fun/energetic, so you'll have to bail on the hotter girl to joke around with the uglier girl and even make fun of the hotter girl together, and once the uglier girl loves you, the hotter girl's jealousy kicks in and she loosens up and you can go back to her but with her more receptive.

(and of course you can use that incident later to qualify her like "ya, at first I thought you were kind of a bitch because you were being boring lol and I was like aww man another girl who's hot as fuck but has no personality…I'm glad you loosened up, you're actually a cool chick, I shouldn't have judged you so fast. I bet a lot of guys judge you by your looks hey?" (etc. etc.))

"Like, if we were in a relationship and I inevitably cheated on you, you’d probably stab me, whereas you (indicating Right 5.5) would just yell at me or something."

I would change this up. Your examples in it right now give the girls bad emotions and set up an aggressive frame. If they've been cheated on before (which they probably have), you're bringing up those feelings they had and assosciating them with YOU.

And becuase you're talking about "stabbing", you're getting this response:

"Left 5.5: Psh. I would cut your dick off."

It's because you're already going into a roleplay involving knives and pain and stabbing and cutting and blood and shit. So they're just escalating the frame you set. If you said something super gay like "you would hit me with a flower" there's no way she'd respond "I would cut your dick off" because that's just a fucking crazy response that escalated too huge a leap lol

So off the top of my head here, I would go with something like: "Like if you and I were dating, and I was like "sorry babe, not tonight, I have a headache", you'd pin me down, bust fuzzy handcuffs out of nowhere and feed me viagra till the sun came up. Whereas she (indicating her friend) would be like "oh that's okay honey" and then quietly cry herself to sleep wondering why I don't love her anymore. :)"

Like, something where you're setting a sexual frame, but in a FUN-crazy kind of way, VS a "dick-in-a-blender"-crazy kind of way lol

'cause as funny as this is (I lol'ed out loud reading it and picturing how that looked in the bar):

"Me (makes gurgly nomnomonom slurp slurp noises) mwahahahahaha I drank the last of his dick forevvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar."

…it's not a super conducive path toward turning her on sexually. 🙂 And you're ending up down this road because you're using the cheating/stabbing examples in your routine. Try switching it up to the one I wrote next time, or come up with something similar that's congruent for you.

"Me: ME AND YOU FOREVER. ALWAYS…"

lol you're fun/entertaining to them, but not Attractive. There's no sexual tension/chemistry right now. Not a big deal, your conversation threads just haven't gone down a route where you're getting into "man to woman" communication. You're in "friend to friend" right here.

"I make a mental note that the only way I’m going to be able to get them to stick around and not leave is if I build some type of attraction."

Yup. If they're social circle and you'll see them a ton, you can just "be a cool fun guy" and at some drunken house party you can escalate to hooking up. But with cold-approach, if you don't build sexual Attraction in the first 5 min, they're going to move on…why? BECAUSE THEY WANT A COCK IN THEM. lol Girls are as horny as we are! They just need guys to step up and spike their emotions and then make them feel non-judged and comfortable for letting their sexual side out while the guy handles all the logistics back to a place they can fuck. 🙂

Good intro. A lot of Naturals get tunnel vision around girls and forget to introduce their buddy and then their buddy is stuck unable to help because he looks like he isn't important enough for his own buddy to acknowledge him. It's super gay. Always make sure your wing has an intro if he's trying to get into the set.

Also:

"7.5 with wedding veil"

ALWAYS approach and congratulate and flirt with these girls. ALWAYS. Birthday Girls with tiaras and shit too. That's why they have that stuff on, because they want attention, so they're going to be 100% receptive all the time to anyone who approaches, let alone anyone who flirts with them.

This is good for your state because you get a ton of attention/interaction with girls at once (sometimes they'll all fight over your attention if you come off as a fun flirty guy that the bride or mother hen approves of), PLUS to everyone else in the club you're the guy that rolled up and opened like a 4-10 set of women fearlessly and got them loving you. 🙂

These girls literally exist for you to pump your own state with, so allllllways approach them. Plus you make their night awesome too 'cause they want attention from cool fun guys. Win/win, giving value.

"7: (flat) yeah we’re good friends, it’s her wedding."
"7 seems put off by me lol."
"7: I don’t know."
"7 makes an almost disgusted face, me and the 5.5 laugh and high five"
"7:…no, she ran a 10K last year, okay, she’s actually really good at –"

This is what's known as a boring girl with full bitch-shields up. lol Usually this kind of chick is hot, but just not socially competant or fun…she doesn't get sarcasm or flirting and assumes the worst of you and is just kind of lame…and it's tragic because usually she's decent looking so you know she's just been getting by on her looks and hasn't had to develop a personality.

BUT, you handled it perfectly by shitting on her to spike the more fun 5.5's Buying Temperature.

"Me: (laughing) No shit, my ex-girlfriend had asthma! YOU CAN’T RUN FOR SHIT, BITCH!"
"7 makes an almost disgusted face, me and the 5.5 laugh and high five"
"7:…no, she ran a 10K last year, okay, she’s actually really good at –"
"Me: YOU RAN A 10K? HOLY SHIT YOU’RE SOME SORTA CYBORG! I RAN A 3K! FOR REAL! THAT’S SOOOO COOOL!"
"5.5 (laughing hard, high fives me again) You ran a 3K?! Nice! You’ll be running half marathons soon, that’s awesome"

This whole part right here was flawless. Well done. You didn't fall into the 7's frame, or get suckered into qualifying/apologizing with her shit-tests, and you basically just cut her off and ignored her boring shit to focus on creating good emotions in the 5.5 who clearly GOT your humor and was having fun.

End result? Just like the 4-set from a little while back with the bitchy uggos, once you turn enough of the group around and put the social pressure on the party-pooper, they fall into your frame and realize they were being gay and come around to join the fun.

Boom. ioi. This is how I know she was just boring/lame and not a bitch and who would never fuck you. Because she's TRYING to get rapport here, she just doesn't know how to because she's used to guys doing the work for her lol

You might be thinking "I dunno maybe she was just being polite." Ask yourself this: If you were a stinky disgusting smelly homeless man with beer breath, and you said you ran 3K, do you think she would say "that's pretty cool…so you're into running?" NO. She'd be like "OMG PLEASE DON'T TALK TO US ANYMORE" and be looking for a chance to run away.

So believe it or not, you sparked attraction with her. And you did it through shitting on her frame and flirting with her 5.5 friend and winning the friend's love/Attraction, which triggers a jealousy thing which triggers her ioi'ing you about your running.

"Me: Of course…I gotta outrun my exes, DUH

7 laughs."

Ahhh, see NOW she's all loosened up. You just had to plow through that initial awkwardness till she caught up.

"The woman grabs wedding veil, who directs everyone else out of the set."

Boooooooo!!! lol

I actually hate wedding/b'day parties for this reason. It's VERY VERY hard to peel these girls off their group. That's why I say, go up and approach them, use them for a state boost, but don't stress trying to land any of them because a lot of them don't go out to the bar much and are scared of going home with a guy and they have like half the group acting as mother hens and the wedding/b'day girl will be barfing and need babysitting later because they'll drink too much etc. etc.

At BEST with these ones, I maybe grab a phone number from one of the chicks if we have a bit of a connection, but even then I don't put much stock in it. I just use them to get myself feeling energetic and in state.

"Here’s what I’m starting to notice about the club scene —- truly hot girls are fairly rare."

True! This is part of why when guys are like "oh I'm banging 9s and 10s off OKCupid and day-game" it's like no, you're not lol, because even at a nightclub where the girls dress the hottest in their life next to their wedding day, in most cities there's only like 2 10s, 3-5 9s, a handful of 8s and a bunch of 7 and belows. There are some hotties who don't go out to the bar, but you have to put in a shitload of hunting time to find them. Like a dude in college is surrounded by some hot girls…but they're not 9s and 10s. They can be hot, especially for that environment, but put any of them in a Vegas nightclub or the Playboy mansion in the clothes they wear around campus, and no one would even notice them.

Like there are hot girls out there in the day and everything, but it completely depends on the city. Like Vegas or NYC, sure, there are 10s running around during the day. But in Podunk, Alabama, you're not surrounded by phenomenal hotties during the day…you're walking around a bunch of uglies and average girls, looking for the hotties for half an hour before you find one, and even when you find them they're dressed in plain clothes.

This is part of why I like to go to random new venues all the time. You never know where you're going to find a regular stream of hotties. Like going out on Thursday is inconvenient for me…but if I stumble across a bar that has a solid Ladies Night on Thursdays and the talent there is above average, I'd rather go out for a couple hours on Thursday to that place, than spend 6 hours in a shittier club on a Saturday where the girls are all mediocre/average.

It also depends on your city/culture in general…like a college town will tend to have a lot of fatties because the girls put on the Freshman 15, away from home and drinking cheap beer and eating fast-food all the time and shit. Whereas an older crowd at happy hour will tend to have hotter women because they're a bit older but they do pilates and have the $ to take care of their appearance etc. Or like, a country bar will have a bunch of uggos because the culture in that enviro is just "let's all just get shit-faced and sloppy on cheap beer". Gotta' find the places and nights that have the type of girls you're into. 🙂

You'll find the smokin' hot girls at the clubs:

1) Don't drink much if at all. They don't want to cause a bad scene and embarrass themselves and ruin their reputation because they know everyone is watching them.

2) Leave before midnight. They're just there "doing the rounds" making an appearance because they're getting themselves into high-value social circles where they'll get access to guys who own the nightclub and celebrities that pass through town and shit, not trying to get Bob from Accounting's dick in a drunken stupor at 2am.

3) Hang out with a crowd, usually of dudes who are jacked, rich, good-looking, social, etc.

4) If they're just out with a girlfriend, they'll just do a few laps of the bar, dance together and get some validation, but shoot guys down and then leave before midnight.

You generally won't find a 10 making out with a random dude at 2am while he fingers her on the dance floor lol. It can happen, but it's reaaaaally fucking rare.

"They don’t talk to girls, they stand in a circle with their drinks held up to their waists."

Yep. Even good looking dudes and normally alpha dudes who are just feeling intimidated by the club environment will do this. You're the exception, you're the guy with the balls to go approach. Even if they talk smack they WISH they could do what you're doing.

"So…probably too early and doing nothing to help him."

You entered before he hit the hook point, so they run away right away. If he had hit the hook point, they'd stand there and wait and try to get in your conversation. No biggie, just a timing issue! Entering at the right time in the right way is the trickiest part of wingmanning. Once you're in it's fine, but before you're in you have to read the body language and just kind of estimate when the best time to enter is…sometimes you don't need to enter at ALL, if your buddy is good and like, he enters a 3-set and the other 2 girls keep eachother busy and don't seem to be cockblocking.

"this fat uggo tools me and says ‘wait, do u have weed?’"

lol. So annoying.

"I run the stack on her, it seems to go well, she laughs, she leans in to hear what I’m saying."

She's into you. But she's 1) shy/nervous, and 2) pre-occupied with finding a place to sit…maybe she's wearing heels and her feet hurt like crazy, maybe she was doing squats before the bar and she's exhausted, who knows, but it's something that logistically is fucking you over because you can't solve her need to sit. Not much you can do about it…if there was ANY chair in the room you could grab it and drag it over for her and you'd be set and might get her, but sometimes the enviro just doesn't work with ya lol

This is good, I like this one. And here you're putting the onus on her to contribute to the conversation. Making her invest.

"Her: (laughing) No, this is impossible..no…"

She resists a lot but it's not because she hates you, it's because she's on the spot and hasn't had to do anything like that before so she's panicking. It'd be like someone saying "tell me a joke" and you're like uhhhh shit I can't think of one!

"I just fall silent then…"

Good. Don't harp on it too much, but don't reward her for not playing along.

"she resumes conversation"

Because she's into you. Resuming the conversation when you let it go silent is a standard ioi. Again, would she resume the convo if you were a stinky gross toothless homeless man? No. It really is this simple/binary. 🙂

"Her: Why don’t you do this?"

Not a shit-test…she's trying to build comfort/rapport with you because she was having fun and then the fun stopped when she couldn't keep up so now she's trying to get you to do it so you can keep having fun.

"Me: Awesome, Fun, Party, Boning, Blowjobs."

lol awesome. Sexual stuff in there is good stuff.

"Her: No, I still don’t think I can do this."

Again she's just embarrassed/nervous and resisting.

"I fall silent again. She thinks…finally she says stuff."

And again you don't reward her not playing along, so she racks her brain to come up with something. This is GOOD. This is her investing, wanting to build rapport, wanting to qualify herself to you, etc.

This is similar to when I'm like "hmmm, really? That's boring. Come back when you have a better answer. 🙂 (backturn)" and the girl runs off to poll her friends for advice etc. so she can come back and try to impress me with a better answer.

You just did a much subtler/rapport/comfort type version of it, which was good with this girl.

And the end result is:

"Her: Something, something, love, no regrets."

She's investing. This is Attraction lol She would have left or changed topics or something if you were an ugly hideous gross homeless bum.

"(the whole roleplay thing got laughs from her but like…when she went away, I was actually worried she wouldn’t come back, and she only slowly came back)"

Doesn't matter how or when she came back. What matters is she came back. Binary, that's it. If you were a homeless stinky old creeper, she would never come back. The fact that she does means there's SOMETHING you can work with. It might not be much, but it's there.

"My friend on the other hand gets in her face like ‘hey, how could he hate you, you’re so beautiful.’ She recoils…"

lol but women love compliments!! I read it on Jezebel!!

"I start to think their presence could be a huge DLV for both me and Nightly."

Yep. A girl judges you by your friends. Often when I'm stuck with lame guys (because they're lame with girls but they're still my buddies and I like them as friends), I'll just pace the girl's reality and let her know that I'm fully aware my friends aren't super cool. Like "lol sorry about that, I've been trying to teach him how to talk to girls but he gets pretty in-your-face and scares a lot of girls off. He's a great guy, but I dunno, I think girls like a guy they can just relax and be chill with, you know?" (etc. etc. build comfort/rapport).

"then they talk to these guys who paid probably 1000 dollars to sit in a booth, and they let them sit with them."

lol it's like 99.99999% for sure that those guys didn't bang her. But they did pay $1000 to let a 6.5 sit with them, way to go guys you're ballin' it up lol

Again you basically just got fucked over by the layout of the bar and her need to sit. For all you know she rolled her ankle outside the bar or something.

But, what I would've done here, is grabbed her # before they went outside. Just something casual like "Cool, we're probably gonna head downstairs. You're fun though, I thought you were boring at first 'cause you were so shy but I'm glad you loosened up lol (qualifying her) Gimme your # incase we lose eachother and I'll txt you when we go for food later." Anything to just snag her #. Maybe it'd flake on you, or maybe she wouldn't give it to you, but, well, you don't have it NOW so what would be the difference? lol

Basically you're still talking yourself out of iois and signs and convincing yourself that girls are just being polite/friendly to you. Sometimes they ARE, but you're lumping the ones that are legit a little Attracted in with those polite ones. The trick is in spotting the iois, like asking about your running or coming up with 5 words to describe her life, etc. Those aren't throwaway comments, those are relevant and should ping like big neon signs in your mind. 🙂 The girls who are just being polite don't do stuff like that.

"She’s unfortunately on her phone."

lol sure it went shitty, but look at it this way: You gained reference experiences for 1) following your 3 second rule, so you're building up that habit, and 2) opening a girl on her phone…sure it didn't go well but the world didn't END, it was just a funny little moment of awkwardness and a funny story…most of the horror stories that guys stress will happen are all in their imagination.

"Me: I HUNT TO INSPIRE TERROR IN MY ENEMIES AND LOYALTY IN MY FOLLOWERS!"

lol awesome. You come up with great improvised shit on the fly once you're in state and into the girl.

"Me: Watch out guys, apparently I just ran into the night club’s game warden."

Good, good, working group theory, play off the group, neg the girl shit-testing you, etc. Good stuff.

"Some guy comes and does the -right- thing and sits next to her on the couch."

No, whatever, fuck that guy, he doesn't exist. lol If you can captivate her emotions enough, she'll literally ignore her friends dragging her by the hand away from you, to keep talking to you. 😀 …but he probably knows her, so it's good to make him like you…just be a little bit cooler than him. Hypergamy. 😉

"(Hawt girl) she’s like ‘yeah i’m from the country so yeah….’" – qualifying herself

"I also say that an ex was a nurse blah blah blah, we can’t get along." – solid, use this a lot lol…it says you have an ex so girls have liked you, and it sets that "we won't get along" routine up

"She laughs." – iois all around, she's Attracted legit.

"She lets slip that she has a fiance and shows off the ring." – She's letting you know this because she's feeling guilty about being Attracted to you and she wants to make sure you know what her deal is so that she can alleviate her guilt…that way if things continue further, hey, she warned you, so it's all YOUR fault and it "just happened" and she can suck your cock guilt free lol

It's a long ways from that end result, but this is the initial spark of it.

"Fuck. I could eject, but I dunno. I think she’s kind of into me."

You DO know, you've just seen yourself as a guy that girls wouldn't be into or would only be polite to for SO many years that your brain won't let you accept that these girls are into you for real.

"The guy next to her actually chimes in, tells her he’s in the army."

He sees she's attracted to you, so he's trying to qualify himself to her to get some of that lovin'.

"Get this, hawt girl uses my exact line on HIM! Like, ‘oh we can’t be friends because my fiance is in the army.'"

lol So she shoots him down and disqualifies him…with the line YOU gave her. She's into you.

"An awkward minute passes as I figure out how to change this situation."

You would have to get her isolated from her group to do anything, unfortunately. Like take her to get a drink or to dance or wait for her group to be leaving and then grab her, etc. but you'd get cockblocked and trigger her ASD because her showing you her ring is already her ASD being triggered, so it probably wouldn't have worked out…but again, for that moment, with that girl, you had real legit Attraction. 🙂

"Then finally I say to the guy ‘hey, now none of us can be friends you asshole, goddammit!’"

lol, good stuff. What's he supposed to respond to that? He doesn't fucking know lol

"This pulls her attention back to me."

You're more interesting/alpha/attractive than that dude to her.

"I notice that whenever I break rapport with her, she’s quick to seek it out with any of the other — now it’s three/four — guys around her."

Ya, because you take her validation away, and she knows they'll all provide it like cheap emotional hookers, so she fishes through them for it. This is the same thing that girl did to you in your other FR where she rallied up the guys across from you and the HB8Waitress to gang up against you because you weren't seeking her approval and chasing her and falling into her frame enough.

Girls KNOW that all the guys around them are easy-ass chumps who just need a batted eyelash to jump to attention and do whatever they want. But they won't fuck those guys…they WANT the guy who won't cave to all that, they just have to test it first.

This is another reason you want to isolate girls from their group. One on one, it's harder for them to rally up the people around you and your stronger frame will win out.

"it’s not like she knew any of those guys."

Shit, really?? If she doesn't know them you can just grab her by the hand and go "let's go find your friends." and walk her away from them. lol

"and he’s like ‘dude, trust me…anti-game here was going to be a horrible obstacle, he kept saying that he wanted to talk to the girl you were talking to and help out. trust me.’"

haha I believe him. The only thing worse than a guy with anti-game is a guy with anti-game who THINKS he has game and is super eager to "help out". 'cause you don't want to shit on him because he's TRYING to help and has the best of intentions, he's just, not good at it. lol

"Anyway, I just have to distract until her bf arrives."

Ya just stick to casual conversation in those situs. You're just keeping them busy till your buddy can make his moves.

"Reality check: she has a 20 year old kid. She’s divorced. She’s not worth it."

lol true, but if your wing is into her, help him out. 'cause down the road you'll be into a girl that he doesn't approve of but he'll help you out. It also creates drama and kind of a downer vibe if you guys get into a shitting match of like "dude that girl you hit on was soooo ugly" etc. and it starts making you guys worried about approaching in front of eachother because you don't know if your buddy thinks the girl is hot enough and then next thing you know you guys are standing in a circle with your drinks up at your chest scared to talk to any girls and you're toast for months from there.

"Me and Nightly looked between one another and were like ‘that’s awesome dude, get it wet.’"

lol exactly. 😀 It's different if like, Nightly was like "dude don't let me pick up any cougars ugh" at the start of the night and then he ends up hitting on one…but if he's just going with the flow and into her for whatever reason, awesome dude, get it wet! and find some girls and say "My friend is going home with an ugly girl. You two are my new friends. 🙂 Hey are you a hairdresser?"

"As soon as we dropped them off though, I’m like ‘dude………..we have no choice. we HAVE to try this….or that’s our lives. right there.’"

Yep lol It's like Julien says in one of his videos: Let's say looks DO matter. Let's say only 6'4" guys can get laid. Now what? Are you going to just go "oh…okay :(" and settle for some chubby divorced 4 with 3 kids? No, fuck that. What kind of life is that? So fuck whether looks matter, look your best and then sharpen your game until you're landing the girls you want. It's that or join anti-game with his bottom of the barrel scraps, or your Natural buddies playing Bingo with a 6. 🙂

"I guess I’m just gonna have to stack more routines, maybe work on body language shit I’m missing. I dunno."

You're getting Attraction, you're just not taking it anywhere. Your whole front-end is getting much more solid. The girls are paying attention to what you say and you're approaching/opening solid, and you're dipping into Attraction, comfort/rapport, etc. here and there. This is progress, even if it doesn't feel like it's fast enough. 🙂

Try isolating next time. The next girl you get laughing, where she's got that vibe of the 5.5 that was high-fiving you earlier, literally just say "HEY. Come with me." and grab her by her wrist (lightly, no death grip shit lol) and turn and start walking away pulling her.

Don't tell her where you're going, it doesn't matter where you go even. Just walk her 20 steps in a direction and then stop and keep chatting. Hell, just walk her 20 steps and then ditch her, it doesn't matter. The main thing is, on a Buying Temperature spike, grab her and drag her away from her group.

If they go "omg where are we going?" just go "Adventure!" or "Shush!" and hold your frame like you just expect her to come with you. When you get to wherever, just stop and say like "Okay now I can hear you, it was too loud over there." and resume like nothing unusual happened lol

Try walking her around the ENTIRE CLUB if you can. Without saying anything, just dragging her as if you have some specific destination in mind.

This is just to try out leading and kino and shit. If the girl DOESN'T go with you, like she resists, just tease her a bit more and get her laughing, cold-read her and drop the crazy stuff in there or whatever, and as soon as she laughs again go "Okay, now come with me." and pull her again.

You'll be surprised at how soon you can do this and it might help your brain understand when a girl is into you, because she won't come with you if she isn't into you, and if she DOES come with you, that's HUGE in terms of determining her attraction level for you.

And to address your bit down below:

"I’m just gonna add this question about persistence —- I mean, do you not ‘plow forward’ unless you get some sort of instant attraction?"

You assume attraction and plow regardless. Don't wait for permission to plow. Oddly enough, plowing is actually part of what BUILDS attraction.

Like I just mentioned next time you're out, take the girl by the forearm/wrist and drag her away as soon as you get a laugh or ioi out of her. She might only be a 2/10 attracted to you at that point, but the very act of pulling her and confidently assuming she'll go with you and dominating/leading her physically like that will spike her to a 5/10, you know? If you didn't capitalize on that and lead the interaction forward, she'd still be at a 2/10 or a 3/10, but the fact that you're confident enough to plow forward with only minor minor indications that it'll go well, that's part of what spikes her.

Then if you can smoothly ignore resistance, like if she goes "no, no, I can't lol!!" and you just joke around and tease her and then try again, now she's going to be at a 7/10 because you're so confident and unphased by her rejection etc. VS the guy who hasn't tried to lead her away from her group at all, who's still at a 3/10. It's why I'll go for the makeout 5 times and get the cheek 5 times, but on the 6th we make out…even in those 5 rejections, each one that I handled smoothly and unphased and kept trying again, built a little more attraction and demonstrated some high-value properties.

In the future I'll make you do this same exercise, but with trying to make-out with her. 🙂 Baby steps though for now lol Start with leading her away from her group and we'll build from there.

lol, dude when I read your FR’s sometimes it’s like….coming out of the Matrix — AGAIN! Like, how subtle these IOI’s are. I mean….it’s just weird, because society seems to tell us that ‘unless she’s licking her lips and hugging you you can’t escalate/be forward without being a creep.’ But I guess it’s way more subtle than that.

I’m totally gonna rework that ‘cheating’ routine. Probably just gonna steal what you wrote and use it in field this week. I’ll see how it goes!

And the breakdown of country girl blew my mind. Like, I thought her using my line on another guy was her indicating interest in the other guy. But what you said makes way more sense. lol.

That video on getting physical was awesome! I was always told that you get physical to ‘establish a sexual vibe,’ but this guy says you do it to lead and demonstrate leadership. That just seems to take a lot of the pressure off of me. This week I’ll try getting a girl in a set to come with me somewhere.

But yeah, I just want to say I really appreciate your feedback. It really helps. I always find several things you’ve said in the previous FR to try out — in some way — the next time I go out.

“society seems to tell us that ‘unless she’s licking her lips and hugging you you can’t escalate/be forward without being a creep.’”

lol ya, society’s “10 Funky Tips on How To Know She’s Into You” bullshit makes guys think that 1) she’s going to beat you over the head with the clue-hammer when she likes you (strong independent women go for what they want, don’t they feminists? oh no wait, they do the same bullshit subtle “stand near him. that’s my ioi. be in the same room as him. how come he doesn’t know I’m into him???” hints that women have always done), and 2) you’re a rapist if you DARE escalate without a signed and written contract of her accepting your escalation in advance.

Reality is the iois can be massively subtle and as simple as “she’s still there in front of you”. Like that, to me, is a green light. If she ASKS me something?? About my RUNNING?? Like, holy shit lady, just take off your pants already and let’s do this thing. lol

“I’m totally gonna rework that ‘cheating’ routine. Probably just gonna steal what you wrote and use it in field this week. I’ll see how it goes!”

Ya man, steal the shit out of it, it’s actually pretty decent. I could probably come up with something better, but try it out and you’ll end up tweaking it yourself I’m sure. It should keep you from getting into conversations where you two are talking about chopping your dick off and drinking it out of a blender. 🙂

“Like, I thought her using my line on another guy was her indicating interest in the other guy.”

What? Fuck no lol I can’t even imagine how that would be an indicator of that. She disqualified him AND used YOUR line (aka she’s listening and thinks your shit is funny) AND instantly turned back to you after you tooled him. Combine that with all those other iois and that’s all Scray-times lol

You know how you’re always like “oh she was just being polite?” She was just being polite to him. 🙂

“This week I’ll try getting a girl in a set to come with me somewhere.”

Good stuff. We’ll push your comfort zone a bit at a time, that’s the process. It’s slow but steady toward improvement. 🙂 A year from now you’ll look back on this post and laugh that someone had to tell you “it’s okay to lead her around the bar when she’s smiling and laughing at what you say”.

“I just want to say I really appreciate your feedback.”

No prob, glad to help! I’m just paying it forward from all the guys that helped me when I was starting out. And part of why I do these breakdowns for you is that I can tell you’re actually trying to apply stuff from them in the field, VS this all just falling on deaf ears and you reverting back to “it just seems too impossible, I just can’t do this, maybe some guys just aren’t meant to be good with girls 😦 😦 poor me I’m short waaaahhh”. 🙂

they used to have couples counseling for people thinking about getting married they should of couples boot camp with team excercises might help em stay together anyone want to help me get that started lol
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I have raised several pits. One was on Animal Planet due to the remarkable rehabilitation.

They are a dog. The proper way to train a pit is the way Ceasar teaches. The most important thing to remember is to teach the dog that when you say, “No bite,” that the wrath of God will be a pleasure cruise compared to the shit you reign down if the dog does not listen.

Most people get the attitude that negative reinforcement for any animal is cruel. This is wrong. By teaching the dog that there is something far more alpha than itself, you will prevent a dog from doing harm that will mean it needs to be put down.

In 20 years of working with rescue pits, I have not had any events of biting or harming other animals, or people. But, I treat my pits like they are a loaded pistol. I keep them in control. i do not try to put them in situations where their natural instinct is to attack. That means, I do not try to integrate them with other dogs, except for others in the pack. When children are over, my dogs are locked in their kennels and are away from anyone who would attempt to play with them.

it is too simple to say rain shit down on a biter. If the dog has worked its way to the top of the pack you will only confuse this shit out of him and make him think that YOU are unpredictable.

When a dog bites one has to take a step back without acting too rashly. Maybe some dogs will respond to a single scare tactic. Others you could almost kill and afterwards they will think “game on, I have to maintain control.” The result will be losing the poor dog. Alpha status is earned through trust, fair treatment and subtle signs of dominance — not acting like an out of control person.

They do it with German Sheppards too. Invariably when it snaps at someone, and that person reacts with anger about it, they will start equivocating the dog to childlike behaviour. “It’s like a child, it doesn’t understand, it’s afraid of you”. So equivocation to abused children in order to paint the mangy piece of shit canine as a victim. “It’s like a child you asshole”. No it isn’t, a child is a human being, you stupid cunt.

this is the most idiotic post on here. i agree with what you say about women and them being so hypocritical and all that but all dogs, yes ALL, are trainable even if they are trained to be aggressive. Dogs are not born aggressive first of all, they are trained to be and that can be changed. I saw it with my own eyes where after 3 weeks of working every day with one, the dog became completely different. You have no idea what the hell you’re talking about in this post and need to do real actual research before posting such ignorance. I love your posting on women behaviors but this is completely false. My friend has 3 pitbulls and they are the most loving dogs I’ve ever seen.

And to the guy who shot his dog in the head, you’re a fucktard that should be shot as well. You are not an executioner sir and if you choose to be, then you deserve the same to happen to you. Now get back to posting about women and cut the shit.

“And to the guy who shot his dog in the head, you’re a fucktard that should be shot as well. You are not an executioner sir and if you choose to be, then you deserve the same to happen to you.”

Like a true brain-dead moral-relativist lefty, you equate people with animals. Animals are not on the same level of animals. People come first. Animals and nature are secondary to man. Not the other way around. You and your other incarnations on this thread think a dog has just as much rights as a man and his family. I am sure you also don’t see the difference between the rights of a criminal breaking into a person’s home and the person shooting him to protect himself and his family. Just yuck! Talk about immoral!

Show me a single woman with a dog and I will show you a maladapted, anxious and aggressive dog. This is especially true of intelligent and headstrong breeds like the pit bull. Even dumbed down breeds turn yappy and neurotic.

This is actually true of any dog not properly trained and controlled. I love my sister and all, but they let their dog get way out of control. I went down to visit for a weekend and straightened it out and he’s become calm and obedient for her and her husband, but without help that dog was totally running the show.

Yup. Most of the SWPL types I know with yappy, aggressive dogs also have bratty, out-of-control kids. In both cases, they seem to think their obnoxious, sociopathic antics are “cute” and total strangers are supposed to find it cute as well. I don’t think so.

Good observation. They think their kids can do now wrong so they never reprimand their kids, shame them into behaving, or teach them responsibility. That’s why they grow up illogical and have misplaced sympathies, lack taking responsibility for their actions, and think if one disagrees with their lefty world view then they’re either evil or backwards. Lefties have mentally damaged lefty kids.

This is just what I was saying (see above). There are a huge number of porn Web sites devoted to women and dogs, all of which are illegal in the US, so they’re based overseas. This can’t be just a coincidence that it’s dogs women seem to favor, not some other animal. Do some Googling and see what you come up with. Some of the names you should look for are: Bilara, Chessy Moore, and Knotty. A bunch of this stuff was on Motherless a while back, but got removed.

i usually go with the grain on CH. on this one however, other than the status whoring, pitbulls are a fine specimen, right up there with rottweilers. rather that than the chihuahua rat dogs that are emasculated by being confined to a purse during their daily walk.

Like a lot of breeds, however, the owner has to know what he (or in this case “she”) is doing. If you adopt a Chihuahua and are a completely unstable, narcissistic bitch, the worst that can happen is the dog will pee on your couch everyday. If you are a completely unstable, narcissistic bitch and you adopt an intelligent working breed it could bite someone.

Personally, I think that not enough people know what they are doing with Pitbulls. Also, the breed has been ruined by breeding for dogfighting. I think they should be required to be spade or neutered as a condition of ownership. That way no dogs are taken from their owners, but the breed can wind down. We have plenty of dog “diversity” already. We can afford to lose pit bulls.

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Herein lies the problem and our host identified it well.
Knee jerk liberal white folk (and especially women) believe in the
Myth of Egalitarianism where every culture, race and tribe of people are equal and capable of reaching the same heights of civilization and achievement.
This has led to the downfall of Western Civilization as we know it; and we will regret this soft hearted and soft headedness.
And the cause of this malaise is the empowerment of women in the work force and suffrage.

My own sad story:
I was pursuing a former bodybuilding women turned MMA hobbyist. She’s early thirties, Caucasian and describes her pit bull as “little man”. Naturally she has resisted mine and every other man’s advances. She’s content w/ her dog, her job and her commute to work. It’s a shame.

CH, thanks for exposing this. It’s a subset of what I see all over my little enclave here in sunny southern Babylon. Since taking the red pill, I’ve become very aware of the role dogs play in the lives of women who are: a) single, b) childless, c) really focused on their careers, or d) usually all of the above. It’s everywhere I look, ’round here. And it was a prominent feature of an LTR I nuked a while back (and one of the reasons for the nuking too).

Guys, rule of thumb: If a chick you’re gaming talks a lot about her dog and all the stuff she does with her dog, NEXT her. The demands of taking care of a dog can quickly become the alpha male in a woman’s life.

Based on my experiences, dog and/or cat ownership is one of the first things I screen for as an indicator of LTR potential. (Irrelevant for ONS situations, unless she refuses to put the animal in a cage). And yes, I’ve used “finding a new home for Fido” as a compliance test. Great fun if you’re outcome-independent. 😀

and think about the chick cleaning up the shit off the floor of that animal she owns or scooping cat shit out of the litter box which means you as the alpha male of the house can go ahead and shit in the corner and have her clean it up when done
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“I’ve become very aware of the role dogs play in the lives of women who are: a) single, b) childless, c) really focused on their careers, or d) usually all of the above.”

Spot on!

“Guys, rule of thumb: If a chick you’re gaming talks a lot about her dog and all the stuff she does with her dog, NEXT her.”

Spot on! Between the career, the friends, and the pets when is she going to have time to focus on you and the relationship? If they have pets, chances are they make horrible GFs, not to mention have issues with cleanliness and organization. Who wants a filthy disorganized woman?

“And yes, I’ve used “finding a new home for Fido” as a compliance test.”

This actually worked? Did you manage to make one of these women who have fanatical feelings for their dogs actually give it up for the sake of having a relationship with you, or any man for that matter? I don’t believe these stupid bitches would give up their dog for the sake of a relationship. The dog is more important than the man, you know.

As a regular reader I come for the articles and stay for the comments, you guys crack me up. Still, reading the comments it made me realize how many people know a ton about dogs. Talk about dogs in public and everyone around will chime in, it’s amazing, yet talk about fed. debt, war, anything serious and most people won’t even lift their eyes from their phone.

Why not like a pit bull? They can be sweet and fierce. Same with GSD(police dogs) or Belgian malinois (war dogs) or Akitas(hunting dogs).
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Lab dogs are gay.
Golden Retrievers are gay.
poodles are gay.
dalmatians are gay.
Collies are gay.
Powerful dogs like Akitas don’t take abuse unlike labs/golden retriever.

These are things that allow SWPL woman to feel superior (relative to them). She ‘knows’ that these things are crummy/garbage, and should be left to die/collapse/rot so that the best can breed and succeed; but she can’t help herself. She must ‘save them’!

Evil? To say that SWPL desire to feel superior to other things is not a moral judgement. Women prefer to have dominance over things that are ‘inferior’ ie damaged or less capable in some way, it’s called dominance of ‘Affection Beneath’:

Affection Beneath applies to anything and everything (sweet innocent children or depraved drug addicts) and can be used for better or worse. Presently it’s being used for pitbulls and not children; that’s not right, that’s messed up. If Affection Beneath was being used by SWPL women for kids, as it should be (their own not third-worlders), then CH probably wouldn’t find it outrageous enough to comment on. But they’re not using it for their own kids, and that’s not right.

Thanks for clarifying your point. I agree with most of what you said. I was just reacting to this statement that you said in your first comment:

“Pitbulls, stray dogs, third worlders, delapidated buildings, drug addicts, handicapped children, rare-breed animals etc……. She ‘knows’ that these things are crummy/garbage, and should be left to die/collapse/rot so that the best can breed and succeed;”

It just sounded like you were including handicapped children in things that “should be left to die/collapse/rot so that the best can breed and succeed;”

I don’t like the idea of leaving handicapped children to rot.

The rest of the stuff you mentioned I agree with you. And I also agree on what you said in the second statement:

“Affection Beneath applies to anything and everything (sweet innocent children or depraved drug addicts) and can be used for better or worse. Presently it’s being used for pitbulls and not children; that’s not right, that’s messed up. If Affection Beneath was being used by SWPL women for kids, as it should be (their own not third-worlders), then CH probably wouldn’t find it outrageous enough to comment on. But they’re not using it for their own kids, and that’s not right.”

No worries. Ditto on your comment ‘I don’t like the idea of leaving handicapped children to rot’, I recall seeing a documentary series a few years back by Michael Palin where he travelled across the globe. One time he stayed with a family of nomadic Mongolians, and one of the kids in the family was disabled (mentally and physically), and dependent on drugs that they bought from an old Russian lorry that met up with them a few times a year; the fact that the disabled kid was there and being cared for at all shows the compassion of the family. That kind of compassion (Affection Beneath) is fine & healthy because it’s your own kid, your own family, someone you know. You haven’t gone out of your way to find a disabled/handicapped person. SWPL people who actively seek out that kind of misery, that kind of misfortune, have something wrong with them.

What a beautiful story of the nomadic Mongolian family. I love to see compassion, as opposed to cruelty.

That said, one should care for his kin – they’re his responsibility. Therefore, I agree with you once again when you said:

“That kind of compassion (Affection Beneath) is fine & healthy because it’s your own kid, your own family, someone you know. You haven’t gone out of your way to find a disabled/handicapped person. SWPL people who actively seek out that kind of misery, that kind of misfortune, have something wrong with them.”

So true, and that’s another facet of the left. I consider myself an expert on the left, but this feature I haven’t yet pinpointed until you mentioned it. Kudos to you!

A similar thing I often say is that charity begins at home, but the left is notorious at spending its time and money on things far, far away, which is why leftists run off to Africa and whatever, looking to “make a difference.” It’s all bullshit. We have so many issues in this country, which the left cares nothing about. Leftists expect the Federal government to spend billions of our tax money on it, while they go off and donate their time and money to strangers. To add insult to injury, those strangers often hate America too. What a slap in the face. I could almost forgive it if those people we helped were good decent people who appreciated us and were thankful, but when they are hateful it’s infuriating. Unfortunately, you see it in Great Britain too. They have so many economic and social issues there, dwarfing our problems in the USA, yet they continually send tax money and donations to the 3rd world collected through endless fundraisers from the public. What’s up with that? More proof the left is mentally defunct.

Even if the dog is raised in a kind environment and raised correctly, one little mistake on the dog’s part can leave you with eight stitches and knocked-out teeth. That’s what happened to an ex-girlfriend of mine when invited to pet the pit of a friend, while everyone was sitting outside the apartment building, grililng and having a nice time. If the dog hadn’t released its bite immediately, it would have ripped half her face off. The owner paid voluntarily for the hospital bill, but the pain and suffering lasted months, and the trauma is life-long.

if you’ve ever had to pry ones jaws off something or someone with breaking sticks, you know this post is true. if you haven’t, just wait. you’ll deserve the mauling you get and you’ll deserve the bankruptcy if your pit mauls someone else, except bankruptcy won’t protect you.

I live in a little college town in Oregon and there are endless women here with dogs they neither can nor want to control, they are actually encouraged to have a pit as a sort of grrl power statement (Pics are hilarious):

I think owning not just a pit bull, but any dog you can’t control, falls into the same category as the car they can’t really drive, the skateboard they can’t really ride, and the didgeridoo they can’t really play. They want to feel all powerful and edgy but without any actual effort.

They seem to get a charge out of intimidating people (cats, ducks, geese) with their dogs as if it is a big game that has no real life consequences. It has gotten to the point where if I am walking down the street and see a woman with a dog coming towards me, even if she is on the other side of the street, I know that by the time she reaches me, either the dog, the woman, or the leash will somehow blocking my path.

Tell her to control her dog or move it she just laughs. Feels zero responsibility towards anything other than the little tingle of power she gets from the situation. It’s funny because I have lived in some pretty messed up places, and always figured out a way to get along pretty peacefully. This is the first place I have ever felt like I needed pepper spray for protection, and it is solely because of scary women and their unpredictable dogs.

“Wildhardt says she grew up with a poodle in the family, but “I fell in love with the breed from seeing the pit bull Petey on TV as a kid. I went to college in L.A. and met a lot of pit bulls there. No matter how tough and mean looking they were, they were always sweet and loving with me. I loved that they were so strong and athletic, but gentle and playful too.”

This is funny, and such coincidental timing. I opted out of taking my kids to our bi-weekly play group on Saturday because the woman hosting had 3 rescue dogs, a pitbull, a boxer pitbull mix, and a pitbull bulldog mix, that she recently “adopted” from a less than reputable shelter in the city. A month ago I held my tongue for about 2 hours as all the other women told her how wonderful she is while she told of her house insurance doubling with the adoptions, but she doesn’t mind because she has “a giving heart”. I’m sure I’ll hear how terrible I am when I host in 2 weeks, but at least my kids are safe.

It was all too predictable that the pit freaks would catch wind of this article and descend like a plague of locusts. Their talking points never change: “My pit bull is sweet, he would never hurt a fly”, “pit bulls were originally nanny dogs”, or “it’s all in how you raise them”.

Point one is meaningless, as all pit bulls are fine until they aren’t. Just ask Darla Napora – oh wait, you can’t ask her, because HER PIT BULL KILLED HER.

Point 2 is demonstrably false, as the history of the breed is no secret. Bull dogs were bred to torture large mammals in 1500s UK, for the amusement of the sadistic dog men, and when bull and bear baiting was outlawed in the 1800s, they turned to dog fighting, added terrier for more energy, and voila – the pit bull was born. No nanny dog there, just a violent and bloody history.

Point 3 is often put forth by those blissfully unaware of something called genetics, the heritable blueprints that define a breed, down to the motor patterns and basic brain wiring. A breed that has been created specifically to torture and kill animals is going to be wired differently than your normal dog.

Also, it’s one thing to get a young dog where you know it’s entire history, it’s quite another to adopt or “rescue” a dog from a shelter. Many times there is a good reason that dog was abandoned in the first place.

They’re Puritans who’ve abandoned God. So they still have the Calvinist sense of guilt, the Puritan urge to show off their moral superiority and boss other people around — but no religious faith to give it all meaning. So instead they adopt pseudo-religions like “The Environment” or “The Movement” or blatant pagan Emperor-worship of Obama. They still happily hang witches, but nowadays the witches are called “racists” or “misogynists” or “corporations.”

The SWPL is an interesting subspecies. Further questions remain open for future research. Are there conservative SWPLs? What do they look like? How do they act? Are they so rare and dispersed that they are lost among liberal SWPLS, forced to silence their political opinions and original thought, or do they form critical masses anywhere and create their own sub-subculture?

Actually, I’m serious about this question — if anyone has an intelligent response I’d be eager to hear. I have a suspicion that conservative SWPLs can be found among the ranks of homebrewers and hardcore strategy board-game (essentially about competition — economic or military) and comic book enthusiasts (the superhero genre by design acknowledges outright bad people and eschews asinine policy solutions to problems), although the latter two groups are more often characterized as geeks.

I probably qualify as a conservative SWPL. I drink wine instead of beer, I make my living manipulating words, I watch old movies and listen to old music, I don’t care much about cars or sports. But where I part company with the SWPL crowd is that I don’t do what I do in order to be part of a particular tribe. My tribe is my country. That’s the difference, I think: I don’t have to express the proper PC opinions because I don’t identify with the SWPL crowd. I identify with America.

All this means is that you’re not a radical liberal with no common sense.

You’re on the rights side of some issues, and that’s great. You’re more part of how the old democratic party used to be, as opposed to todays progressive liberal democrat. At least that’s what older democrats tell me the party used to be.

Now, if you could only shun gay marriage, feminism, and multiculturalism and you’ll be great.

Right on about the SWPL’s, completely wrong about the pitbulls. Pitbulls are not predisposed to attack humans… on the contrary, they were bred to fight other dogs in the pit, and to refrain from biting the human hand that would reach in to the heat of battle. Those that did were killed and bred out of existence. If you’ve ever owned a pitbull you know they grab food out of your hand smooth as a ninja, contrary to other dogs that might leave you toothed and slobbered.

The issue here is the pitbull as a status symbol of toughness, which attracts irresponsible owners that lock them up in a room and teach them to hate anything that moves. Any breed of dog can be taught to be similarly vicious… but when one pitbull snaps, it makes the news, while 100 vicious chihuahuas will not.

The fault lies with the irresponsible owners, not with the pitbull. CH is right though, that to adopt an older pitbull that may have been corrupted by a previous owner is downright foolish. But if you get one as a puppy, they are great dogs with a natural affinity for human beings (though they do have a strong anti-animal instinct).

while i don’t disagree with the SWPL adopting “rescue pit bulls”. when purchased from a reputable (read- non thug ghetto breeders) breeder, they make great companions. most “bull breeds” can be dog aggressive, but they are renowned for their devotion to their pack leader.

i own a staffordshire bull terrier, the breed the pit bull came from. not an aggressive bone in his body, he’s a goofy bastard tbh. but when you take a large dog and instill a “fight” mentality throughout it’s life, it becomes the beast it was trained to be.

i was walking brody in san diego and some ghetto trash ass hole had a pit off leash and he rushed brody. brody ate his food. once the asshole had control of his dog, i ordered brody to stand down- and he did. proper training and responsibility is vital for such a powerful animal.

Pittbulls have unfortunately been selectively bred by people with no knowledge of dog behavior and who confused prey drive and fear biting for defensive drives. Admittedly, this has been done by poor hobby breeders of other breeds in the past (GSDs and Dobermans come to mind), but the Pittbull is near irredeemable at this point after decades of breeding by antisocial assholes. As can be seen by the many unfortunate incidents, the Pittbull does not do a good job of discerning when to bite in defense of itself or its pack and instead is given to aggressive pack behavior (more than one PB roaming and attacking animals and children) and biting out of fear with disastrous results. For dogfighting purposes, the drives are indistinguishable but such a dog really doesn’t belong in a home with a family, if anywhere. They are definitely not a breed to be kept by people who think that inappropriate aggression can be overcome with passivity and kindness. All working lines dogs need a master with a strong hand, physical discipline, and consistency.

I’ve been reading some old posts, and whenever my latest FR gets up, I guess I’m just gonna add this question about persistence —- I mean, do you not ‘plow forward’ unless you get some sort of instant attraction? Otoh I’m supposed to kinda put a lot of sexual shit out to the universe without a care, but otoh, if I don’t persist, I feel like I’m not going to learn a lot of the fundamentals.

Murder rate for the United States: 5.3 per 100,000.people.(16259/300,000,000)
dog Kill rate in the united states: .038 per 100,000 dogs. (25/78,000,000)

Maybe Dogs are Mans’ best friend?

avg of 25 deaths by dog per year in the US.
16,259 homicides in the US per the CDC Faststats page.

I’ve owned two rescue pit mixes, very affectionate, playful and intelligent, but they need a strong loving hand, and they were never off leash out of the back yard. One got first prize in a Dog Obedience class, the other was also very well trained. I saw one leap over a 5.5′ concrete wall chasing a cat. We built an 8′ fence shortly thereafter. They have strong prey drives, even snatching birds out of the air.

Back in the day it was the most popular breed. The RCA dog was a pit, the Our Gang dog was a pit. I agree that they’ve been badly bred by amateurs and need to revert to their less gangsta prototype.

I don’t understand this post, are you hating on the dogs or the dumb bitches that adopt them just to get attention? I hope it’s the latter and only the latter because hating on a pitbull for being a pitbull would be fucking retarded. There are pitbulls that are trained to fight and they become damaged goods but if you have a pitbull puppy and raise it normally it’ll be a normal family dog just like every other dog like Rottweilers, dobermans, etc. What, are you gonna hate on lions for being murderous, gazelle eating tyrants you fucking cunt. Clear up your writing so that you embarrass the idiots that adopt the dogs for attention and not the dogs themselves cocksucker.

[Heartiste: Don’t you love it when people give you a wide berth as you’re walking your pitbull? They’re scared to pet that filthy beast, and that just sends tingles up your leg!

ps Dog breeds aren’t “trainer constructs”. Dogs have different temperaments based on their genetic breeding.]

Stupid idiots should be prohibited from owning pit bulls. This goes for guns, powerful cars and anything else even remotely dangerous. When you add a fucking idiotic human in the mix you’re going to get a tragedy. It isn’t the breed of dog it’s the person that owns it and unluckily for that breed its attracted very many idiotic humans. SWPL’s are invariably idiotic, check out the blog that started it all. Pathetic.

This is the most unintelligent blog I have come across yet So because less than 1% of a dog breed population bites the entire breed is evil. Do some real research not the made up bullshit on dogbites.org (she has been caught making up stories and forging documents) Check with the associations that deal with dogs everyday such as: SPCA, HSUS, AVMA, NCRC. Beleiving the idiot who writes for dogbites.org just shows your lack of intelligence, you probably believe everything you hear on the news to!

This article should be deleted as it doesn’t match the standard of other articles here. Yes, pit bulls were bred to fight, but it’s up to the owner to raise them correctly. The problem is that people who want to get any aggressive breed ought to get a license, after undergoing proper training. And the training of the dog should be checked. I’m not a dog lover, but please stop blaming dogs because their owners are morons.

[Heartiste: I think you’re missing the point of what exactly constitutes a dog breed. Breeding means altering a dog’s genetic lineage. In the case of pitbulls, the breed has been altered to be more impulsively aggressive. Therefore, no amount of proper training is going to rid the dog of its innate genetic predisposition. Good training can only mute the dog’s natural disposition; it cannot eliminate it. So pitbull owners are taking a risk with that breed that they wouldn’t take with other, less aggressive breeds.

This is all common sense 101, and the principle applies equally to human “breeds”.]

Heartiste, I was aware of dog breeding in my previous comment. Indeed I wrote “The problem is that people who want to get any aggressive breed […]”. Aggressive dog breeds are not a novelty, but they are not bred to be indiscriminately aggressive. If you want a dog for defence purposes, then you can be sure that a Pit Bull will relentlessly fight to its death to protect you. Pit Bulls have been known to fight with bullets in their body. Would you want a less aggressive breed for defence? Of course not. The problem lays with owners who can’t handle an aggressive breed, and raise their Pit Bull as it was a Poodle. A properly raised dog, no matter its breed, obeys its owner. If have ever watched a dog defence training session then you must have seen that even while viciously attacking an attacker, Pit Bulls stop as soon as their owner order them.