Quebec's demographics, political power, and economy are all shrinking in relative size to the rest of Canada. Its industry is being displaced and declining, its companies struggle to be competitive in a globalized market and its infrastructure is crumbling due to poor maintenance, crime and corruption.
Deporting "English" birds(alongside attempting to ban Sikhs with turbans from playing Soccer-Football) is not what the PQ or province should be focuses on.

If you can't find a bureaucratic agency set up to enforce the "language law" and if you can't find a system of fines set up then please be quiet. Quebec is the only place on the planet with a language office paid for by the public purpose.

Quebec has only 2 politcal parties that can realistically aspire to power: Liberals and Parti Québécois. Both economic platforms are similar and differentiate solely in that the PQ wants independence. Liberals ruled for almost a decade and were finally undone by serious allegations of corruption. The PQ was voted in by default (at the worst of the Liberal reputation, they still only slightly edged them out). Much like the Republicans in the US, leaders of the PQ have to satisfy a small hard-core ideological base of "true-blooded" nationalists/patriots. The leadership race of the party is a spectacle of very distasteful arguments and grandstanding against the ever-present "threat" of English in Quebec (i.e. Montreal). The louder or the more unreasonable the language-baiting, the more support you get. It's only normal that once in power, PQ politics reflect the ideology of a small group of people who do not represent the broader society.
The PQ is language-baiting because it can't talk about independence since it knows support for it is at 30% and the more they talk about it, the lower that support gets.

This sounds like the same old refrain from a frustrated anglo Quebeckers playing the victim and trying to scare Quebecers by using English forums as this less famous magazine. English families who still leave in Quebec arrived after the conquest. They have exploited francophones until early 60s (time of Quebec quiet revolution). Anglos in Quebec are suffering from a complex of superiority and they always been reluctant to change their COVENIENT STORE shop fronts for DÉPANEUR. Their fame has vanished and it is now dificult for them to keep up or reach higher social status without learning French in Quebec society or Federal administration. Quebec citizens, since the quiet revolution, became very educated and they are more than capable to rule their province the way they want to. This journalist must have roots in Canada to take it so personal. My answer to him is that Quebec is as much tolerant as many other industrial countries and now the safest state in North America (if you like stats you re served). Anglos can have their trial in Enlish, tourists can be served in English, Quebec has English schools, universities and hospitals...Anglos can file their tax in English, Almost half of francophones can have a conversation in English. Not true that OQLF forced Best Buy, Costco, Gap, Old Navy, Guess and Wal-Mart to change their name (this is vicious speculation).

This magazine has a very envious legacy but it is getting less famous because of some analysis stained by the Anglo Saxon point of view. The World is way much bigger and more complex than USA and UK. The rest of the World is not necessary reading The Economist for the same reasons as you think. English are half blind because everybody know what they think but themselves, they have only some clue about what the World think about them.

Vive le pays de Champlain! Nothing wrong with having an official language. Quebec just needs to properly accommodate English if they don't wish to become like their old oppressors. The Sieur de Champlain would probably approve.

Canada Libre; I have absolutely nothing but sympathy for the Province of Quebec, and its majority, including yourself. Rather than solving your sociological problems as "a nation" plus ca change. This is the land where time stands still, and not because of Canadian plots against Quebec, BUT because of Quebec's history. If one compares French to British colonies around the world, the result is stark. The British colonies thrived to a far, far greater degree, while the French ones have really gone nowhere. The Brits left the groundwork for commerce while the French did not.
I strongly encourage the Quebecois to solve their sociological problems rather than pointing fingers of blame elsewhere. Interestingly enough I have done a couple of major things for Quebec. I was really never thanked because when one embarrasses (as I have)people such as Pierre Peladeau, Jean Coutu, etc., and over 150 in Quebecois media, people are too proud to thank you for what you have done. :o) Go have a nice life, after you have solved the problem of Quebec's terribly high rate of high school dropouts (male) from Francophone schools. I am coincident that we can agree that the figures are not a result of a Canadian plot against Quebec!

The lower taxation is great but, like my boss explained to me :
- «« when my wife and I retire, there is no more health coverage from the job. We'll have to pay $1 900 to $2 500 a month for private coverage with compensation caps and time limits hence, if we don't have one million on the side just for that we're not safe »»

So, more money in your pocket seems nice, but is that really ??

And, going to live in USA from Québec ones quickly discovers that poverty does not exist as such where we are from.

He met a lady from Dallas at Osheaga and they both fell in love. (There is no state income tax in TX.) I have heard the nightmare stories out of the US via the media but half of my family lives in the US and they do not complain. We have twin grandchildren that were born (premature) in the USA 6 yrs ago. The U of Indiana medical plan paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep them alive. A friend in NY with 0$, 0 job had open heart surgery in his 40s. They do have some sort of safety net but some do fall through. Meanwhile last yr my wife dislocated her elbow while cycling in US. Before she was registered the doctor was looking at her. Such does not happen in QC. Would I move to the US? Nope! Incidentally, 2 banks advised that the $CA should be trading at around $0.90 in 4 mos and not too long away at $0.80. If my buddy ever returns/invests, he will do nicely.

Bit of history : After the conquest, the French were forced to sell their land to the English and the only people who it was possible to trade with were the English who wanted English goods and none of what the French had to offer. So it's more like the English wouldn't trade with them rather than the French not leaving any groundwork for commerce. Commerce was going at least "well" before the wars. Not to mention that the relationships between the French and the Natives were rather good.
After the conquest, the French had to work as low wage unskilled labor for the English because that's all they could get. And because they didn't speak English, they were seen as dumb and had no possibility of advancement.
To retaliate to the English takeover and to prevent complete extermination of its religious community (mainly French), the clergy told its sheeple to make many many babies so the English would never become a majority. This phenomenon is called "revenge of the cradle". As a result, in addition to being unable to score high paying jobs, parents had to support many children. This means that they lived in almost perpetual poverty. They couldn't afford to aspire to anything greater. Then, the first universities to have appeared in Quebec were English. Many years later the first French universities appeared and (if my memory serves me right) they were religious, so a large number of the guys who went to university became clergymen. At that time, French families were still very large so parents could seldom afford to send anyone to University or whatever other higher education existed at that time.
It is still not very long ago that families were large. My grandmother had 9 children. A guy in my village has something like 10, his oldest being 25.
Now things are totally backward. Quebec has the lowest birthrate in Canada (if I remember correctly).
The importance of getting an education has never been very ingrained in our culture as a result of all that. It still shows today.

Thanks for the history lesson! Chances are that when I mentioned what I did, it was in reference to British versus French colonies. I believe that the British colonies ended off far better off financially because the Brits were interested in trade with their colonies and the French were simply interested in draining them.

Here is a fact. Canada lost 39000 jobs in July, 30400 of those were in Quebec. Nationalists can argue all they want, but these pathetic numbers are a direct result of our incompetent separatist government that is only focused on linguistic issues instead of the state of the nation (and by nation I mean province).

Hahaha ... this is ridiculous ... how abt adding the stats for the past 10 years to your count. You'll get a very different picture. I haven't heard any of you call the Alberta or Ontario's gouvernment incompetent when their economy crumbled in 2008 while Quebec had a way less severe recession. Yall need to stop taking this language thing so personally. Most quebecers, including many separists will be the first one to say it when language laws or their engorcers are going too far. Chill out anglos. The fact of the matter is that the ROC would be better off without Quebec and that Quebec would be better off without the ROC. We'll still be friends and Im sure that Loblaws and RBC wont stop doing business in Quebec just because we become independent. Haha CHILL OUT

Lol Yannick, Liberals were at government in 2008, and this since 6-7 years. that's why we didn't live recession.
Nevertheless, quebec is doing really bad on the side of entrepreneurship. there seems to be a problem between the Quebeckers and money. We're really more leftists with our social programs and everything..

Wow, massive job losses in July. That's new. (Not).
Job losses and job creation goes through a cycle. Learn your economy.
Actually, why don't you stfu when you don't know what you're talking about. Because there is no way that you can have taken that (PQ being the cause of job losses) anywhere other than out of your a ss.

I wanted to recommend this but I can't. I'm not a fan of the oppressive language laws but this author does not identify the consequences, especially the financial and economic consequences, of the laws. He does not explain HOW the laws hurt Quebec, but rather just bitches about what he doesn't like and or agree with. I would have liked for the author to give details on the negative outcomes of the laws and how Quebeckers are suffering, specifically in financial and economic terms (he does write for the Economist after all!), and offer solutions that could possibly satisfy both sides. But that's not the case. It's just someone venting. In the end, and what I'm trying to get at is that, there is a lot of gratuitous Quebec bashing that's taking place across the ROC and articles like these are part of the Canada/Quebec social problem and not the solution

I entirely agree, Mark. It is sad that The Economist imports that noxious habit of Quebec-bashing that is prevalent in English-Canadian media. See for instance http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Quebec_sentiment for a general exposé. A remarkable piece of such bigotry was, for instance, Daniel Sanger's "Colder and whiter: In Vieux-Québec, ethnic cleansing occurs by attrition" in Saturday Night in March 2000. Accusations of Nazism against Quebeckers also are all too frequent, among other things.

I stand by my earlier comment that the language police should be abolished. Nevertheless, you don't ask someone to correct a wrong by the way of insults, otherwise you might as well get the opposite result. Psychology 101, isn't it?

Are you actually comparing Quebec francophones to African Americans????

Wow! That's so wrong on so many levels, but first and foremost it's extremely disrespectful towards African American and also very ignorant to make such a statement.

You know, financially and economically Montréal and Québec were a much better place back then, before the PQ and stuff, then it is today. We had money back then. We were actually important and had influence in Canada and the world. Not today. Québec is now a joke. UNE ESTI D'JOKE! An international joke too! It's embarrassing. What the PQ and their friends have done is pathetic and has been very destructive to our society, especially economically.

Canada Libre, you obviously come across as an frustrated and angry person with a major chip on your shoulder. I see you as part of the problem and not the solution. You don't make Québec better. I suggest you go see a therapist to deal with your emotions, control your anger and work towards a happier life. Bonne journée! :)

«« Are you actually comparing Quebec francophones to African Americans???? Wow! That's so wrong on so many levels, but first and foremost it's extremely disrespectful towards African American and also very ignorant to make such a state »»

Your ignorance can not prove anything.

Until the 1970's (and the first Parti Québécois governement) all socio-economic metrics of (French) Canadians like life expectancy, average income, average education, health, child mortality, access to higher professional levels, etc. were similar or lower in comparison to those of the blacks in USA. Except for the Natives who were in concentration camps (reservations), the living conditions of every other ethnic groups in Canada (anglos, italian, jews, greek, irish, etc.) surpassed those of the founding nation of the country.

White-neggers : Severe anti-Canadien segragation in Canada.

« [In his book White Neggers in America] Vallières argues that French Canadians have been kept in a position of exploited workers by the English upper class entrepreneurs. He draws parallels between the social and economic position of French Canadians and slaves in the United States, hoping to show that both cultural groups have been brought to the continent to serve as the lower, under, and working class for a common oppressor.

« Québec is now a joke. UNE ESTI D'JOKE! An international joke too! It's embarrassing »
The only real problem with Québec is the plethora of colonized minded francos who live in self-hatred (300 years of anglo-supracist segregation does mark some souls) and do desire, want and ask for the perpetual domination of our nation by an other.

well said Mark!! Montreal and Quebec used to be the highlight of Canada, and unfortunately all the separatist's have manage to do is extinguish the light and hold Quebec back instead of allowing it to prosper. Very sad indeed!!

How can the economist publish an article that is so important yet have gross factual errors in it? The spoon story was shown to be false=ctv had not fact-checked. And the PQ is NOT the first one that introduced language laws in Quebec. It was the LIBERALS who created the Office de la Langue Française in 1961. Whoever wrote this article has no credibility. I wonder how many other facts he or she (because the author is not named) got wrong.

Also-the sign law--it's not 3 times bigger in terms of letter size. It's 2 times bigger. It's okay to have a point of view--but please do not repeat "facts" that are actually completely off.

Also, in New York-there are rules about language on signs. And there are dozens, if not hundreds of other countries around the world with language laws. This person just has an axe to grind. Too bad the economist gave him or her a platform.

The language police and the underlying legislation (but not the whole language law bundle) are a shame and should be scrapped altogether. My perception is that they're the single most important source of frustration and anger from the English-speaking community. They are un-liberal, and that clashes heavily with the values of many, if not most, citizens of Quebec (and, of course, the readers of this newspaper). Some aspects of the current language legislation as a whole are indeed acceptable and even necessary considering the peculiar situation of Quebec within North America and Canada; but the more controversial clauses, which are often the object of ridicule from some media, obscure the picture by making many people very emotional (and rightly so) when speaking of the subject. (By the way, the French-speaking media tend to not report those horror stories as often as the English-speaking ones. Or is it the other way around?)

It is the PQ's stance on language that probably prevented them from forming a majority government last summer, against an outgoing government quite widely perceived as corrupt and increasingly authoritarian. This shows that the French-speaking majority, far from pushing towards stronger language laws, rather associate this debate with the more extremist and annoying aspects of the governing party's platform. They recognize more and more than affirmation, rather than coercion, is the key to the flourishing of the Québécois culture, and that only this can convince the rest of the world of this culture's inclusiveness. Only time will eventually bring legislation in line with this ever more prevalent state of mind. Until then, we'll have to endure the language police.

« the single most important source of frustration and anger from the English-speaking community. »
Whatever it is we do, if not disappearing or speaking English 100 % of the the time, Anglos always been and always will be frustrated about the French language in Canada.
It is the reason that they have eradicated francophones from all over the country except here. They want Québec turn now.
The intolerance of anglos is the reason why we need language laws.

«« the French-speaking majority, far from pushing towards stronger language laws, rather associate this debate with the more extremist and annoying aspects of the governing party's platform »»

Totally false.

Even the very submissive and anglo-centric liberal governement of John James Charest, in nine years in power (2003-2012), did not dare touch a hair of the language law in the fear of causing large protests in the populations.

79% say that Bill 101 is necessary, and I don't dispute that. My view is that some clauses regarding the language police (which were not in the original Bill 101 but were implemented by Bourassa circa 1988 -- funny though) give a bad image of Quebec abroad. I don't think I'm the only one, and personnally I don't see any other reason why the PQ got only a minority government last year against the widely despised liberals. Apart maybe from their explicit support towards the student leaders, which many supporters of the hard line (and they were many) might not have liked.

79% say that Bill 101 is necessary, and I don't dispute that. My view is that some clauses regarding the language police (which were not in the original Bill 101 but were implemented by Bourassa circa 1988 -- funny though) give a bad image of Quebec abroad. I don't think I'm the only one, and personnally I don't see any other reason why the PQ got only a minority government last year against the widely despised liberals. Apart maybe from their explicit support towards the student leaders, which many supporters of the hard line (and they were many) might not have liked.

There is no language police in Québec. That just don't exists.
There are civil servants who do visit, take notes of what they see and report the facts. That is the same for language regulation as it is for food sanitation, building safety, handicaps access, tax evasion, etc.
Those who created, use and convey the term language police a hateful bigots who can not tolerate that some nation is not submitting to their desire of supremacy. If not that then they are useful idiots.

Québec and Québécois are among the most tolerant and peaceful nations on earth. It's only the bigot anglo-imperialists that want it to submit to their domination that spread denigrating propaganda about us.

«« I don't see any other reason why the PQ got only a minority government last year against the widely despised liberals. »»
The fact that you don't understand something does not make for a valid fact.
In the last election, there were FIVE significant political parties facing each others. Only one does of those does support the submission of Québec to the rocanada and it got 31 % of the votes.
Sovereignists, separatist and others who do not support submission split their votes among four different parties and the PQ alone got half of that.

«« are more serious, like the one with the italian restaurant a few weeks ago »»

You just prove how misinformed you are : the puppet of anglo-imperialist propaganda.

- OQLF visit at the Buonanotte happened last summer while John James - the-savior-of-anglo-canada - Charest was in power and while the anglo-centric activists he had nominated at the head of OQLF (Gordon Bernstein and Brent Tyler) were in charge.

- the complain was not for Italian on the menu but for Italian-English only menues.

The guy had to provide a translation for the categories on his menu so the general presentation would be in French. So effing what? The OQLF didn't prevent him from displaying any other kind of language along with French, unlike what the English news liked to spin. The OQLF was right on this. Pastagate was also a trivial story that should never have been brought up.

"...they have eradicated francophones from all over the country except here..."

Oh, please! There are French communities, thriving by the way, in Manitoba, Alberta and BC. Eradicated, my foot! It is the Quebecois independentistes who have abandoned francophones because they are not pure laine but mostly Metis and descendents.

What blows my mind here is the short-sightedness of these policies, both on behalf of the government that enacts them and the public that supports them.

I understand wanting to protect French language and culture. I grew up as an Anglophone in Montreal and I take great pride in how unique Montreal is in North America, and even in the world, thanks to the mix of languages and cultures that the city fosters.

But these laws are damaging in so many ways. I'll focus on one, for the purposes of this post, even though there is a laundry list of socio-economic fallouts from spending time, money, and resources on enacting ridiculous laws surrounding an evangelist debate that only serves to divide the population of a harmonious and beautiful province.

They are short sighted because in the long-term, French Quebecois are the ones that will suffer greatly from an evangelical push to bolster French language laws and rights in Quebec. To the parents in Chicoutimi who neglect to teach their kids English and encourage them to practice and cultivate it; think of the opportunities they'll miss out on in life. Like it or not, the world operates in English above all else. You not only take away career opportunities, but life experiences and open-mindedness.

If there's one thing I've learned from growing up in Quebec and then from traveling and living around the world in my adult life, it's that language is the single most powerful unifier. People surround themselves with those who speak their language and when they're taken out of that comfort zone, they feel self-conscious. When they feel self-conscious, that feeling evolves into fear. Fear then evolves into hate.

Why enact laws that alienate a large part of your population, a part that's been there for nearly two centuries, to protect a language and culture that is not under threat? Montreal, and Quebec, have thrived since before Canada earned independence, and they will continue to do so. Not by forcing out Anglophones, but by embracing their diversity and fostering relationships - with business, with immigrants, and with other countries.

Marois has been nothing but a damaging force to Quebec and to Canada. I hate to think of the day where Quebec separates from a great country, but I do fear that it will be soon. And when it happens, the people that thought it would be a good change will be sorely disappointed.

Soveregnty? I thought that you were trying to show me that you are intelligent! :o)

Crooked federal politicians? Quebec is the most corrupt province according to Maclean's. Quebec was sooo insulted, and since then, Quebec has gone out of its way to prove Martin Patriquin correct.

"No more half of our wealth taken away?" Cool! Quebec will then find a way to duplicate what Canada provides for twice as much! I suggest that you check the deficits of Quebec and Montreal and compare them to other provinces/cities. I know how Quebec compares. Obviously you are unaware as to how poorly Quebec and Montreal are run?
"no more million $ support every year for anglo-centric activists who work agains our state, our people and our language" Please supply some names and links to what you are referring to.

"no more foreign remote control upon our frontier, fiscality, environnement, industry and commerce" OK! Nationalize everything and then try and find some trading partners. In the real world countries need outside investment to industrialize and develop national resources. Quebec has the lowest rate of entrepreneurs in Canada and the US. I pointed out the exceedingly high rate of high school drop outs in QC. Sorry but you are so caught up in your nationalism that you are oblivious to reality. The HEC predicted over a yr ago that QC will become Canada's poorest province. It was only 1-2 yrs ago when QC was #6. It is now #8. The good news my dear friend is that our home is up for sale and we look forward to moving to Ottawa. Montreal/Quebec is falling apart. Look at the infrastructure. There is no $$$ to pay for replacing it. Raise taxes!! :o) We already have the highest income tax in Canada/USA and with 14.975% in sales taxes, the 2nd highest after Nova Scotia's 15%. Right now Quebec is exceedingly lucky that interest rates are so low as high interest payments would kill Quebec. Meanwhile, instead of paying down its horrific debt, Quebec continues to spend. It cut what it gives to schools so now school taxes will increase! :o)Perhaps if Quebec did not have its bloated bureaucracy Quebec would be a better place. Sorry but Quebec's politicians lack the balls to tell the masses what is going on, as being in power is more important to them than running Quebec properly!

Meanwhile, Quebec actually drags down Canada. Hundreds of thousands of people have left Quebec including at least three of my French speaking friends. Years ago the son of a separatist acquaintance left Montreal for Vancouver. The father was devastated. His father-in-law was a PQ minister! Financial institutions and many head offices have left Quebec. Sorry but Quebec is no utopia and to believe that it will become Shangra La once it separates, is dreaming.

And how pray tell did I demonstrate that the ROC benefits from Quebec, when Quebec receives back more than what any other province contributes? I hate to be the one to burst your bubble but Quebec actually receives services from Canada as do the other provinces. If such were not the case, Canada would have disintegrated decades ago. Meanwhile, there is only a minority of people in QC who think the way that you do. I encourage you to go and enlighten them as there are many in the ROC that would be quite pleased if Quebec left Canada, BUT that is not going to happen. The demographics have and continue to change. The old guard separatists are dying off. The world is shrinking and the people of Quebec do go to Ottawa, Toronto, Calgary, Vancouver and they see the relative wealth (as I have). Its time for you to stop looking at Canada as the source of all of Quebec's problems, when the source of the problems is Quebec!

Canada Libre; I don't know what planet you are from but you may wish to check on the level of oxygen in its atmosphere!

It appears that you have absolutely no clue as to how the Canadian federation works, not that you care to. With your rationale only the wealthier provinces should be accepted into the federation, because "Canada" is losing $$$ with the poorer ones.

Canada Libre; I don't know what planet you are from but you may wish to check on the level of oxygen in its atmosphere!

It appears that you have absolutely no clue as to how the Canadian federation works, not that you care to. With your rationale only the wealthier provinces should be accepted into the federation, because "Canada" is losing $$$ with the poorer ones.

« I don't suppose that the name Pierre Laporte means anything to you! »

In 1970, Pierre Laporte, better known as Mister 10 %, was Minister of Labour of the federalist Liberal party government. His Mr.10% nickname comes from his role as the chief collector of cash money bribes on all major public contracts.

During the last months of his life, Mr. 10% was under criminal investigation by the SQ for his strong acquaintance with the mafia. The police had gathered enough evidence before Laporte death to trial him under accusations of corruptions which would have been a dramatic blow to the liberal government in particular and the federalist movement in general.

Then came the very convenient kidnapping of Mr. 10% committed by the RCMP - canada federal police - sponsored FLQ. During Laporte detention, absolutely nothing was done by Prime Sinister Trudeau to obtain the release of the corrupted federalist official.

When the FLQ decided to release Laporte, they did put him in the trunk of a car, left the car on the runway of St-Bruno airport and released a communiqué for the authority to go and save him. As per the secret audio recordings of Paul Rose - then FLQ leader - with his lawyer shortly after Rose arrest, Laporte was well alive when they abandoned him at St-Bruno with a blanket and a pillow (who would do that for a dead body ??).

It's only after Laporte was found by the police that he was - again; very conveniently - assassinated.

I Googled "Pierre Laporte" along with words like "investigation", "bribe", etc. and nothing popped up. Kindly post a link to a credible story (source) about the SQ investigation. Anyone can invent stories and you seem to be able to post comments frequently without backing them up. Will this be another such episode?

Unfortunately "pouriture" refers to the sociological problems in QC. Rather than really working to solve problems such as http://www.insolite.ca/2011/04/19/les-jeunes-quebecois-les-moins-instrui... the problems fester. Legend has it that Nero fiddled as Rome burned. Quebec's politicians unfortunately do similar and the people of Quebec suffer as a result, and will continue to suffer in the long term with problems such as shown above. I long for the day when Quebec can actually point at itself with pride.

As far as your level of intelligence is concerned, intelligence is described as the ability to solve problems. Please feel free to solve some of Quebec's!

If you continue to view facts as "denigration" Canada Libre, then no valid points will ever satisfy you. Nationalism=emotionalism. I believe that it was the US Ambassador to France (Benjamin Franklin) who said; "When emotions go in, intelligence goes out."

I am curious now. The Brits did not "ethnic cleanse" Quebec. Why not? They deported Francos from NB to Louisiana BUT in 2000 I communicated with the Mayor of Moncton and he was actually quite pleased with that fact and, he was Franco. I found his opinion to be strange but perhaps there was some benefit. I did not ask. The bottom line is that Canada is stuck with QC, and QC is stuck with Canada. Enjoy! Oh and as far as French not being welcome in Canada, kindly explain to me why when we were in Vancouver in June, there were French signs at Kitsilano and Granville Island. Oh! I read a letter to the editor the other day. Are you aware that Arabic is an official language of Israel, that government signs are bilingual and that most businesses have bilingual signs as well? Quebec and Israel have about the same population, the same % of minority and are both surrounded by 300 million who speak the language of the minority! Israel does not seem to be too concerned about assimilation, yet when it comes to language, Israel seemingly treats their Arab minority better than Quebec treats our Anglo minority!

I don't see how the current mayor of Moncton being franco would prove or disprove anything about such a basic and well known historical fact as the deportation of the Acadians.

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« The bottom line is that Canada is stuck with QC, and QC is stuck with Canada »

Your opinion does not make for a valid fact.

Histrically and formally speaking, Québec and Canada are essentially the same thing for 405 years now. It is not likely that those could be made apart but it is very possible that it will get rid of the roCanada in the near future.

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«« kindly explain to me why when we were in Vancouver in June, there were French signs at Kitsilano and Granville Island »»

That maybe cause no one is watching. What we know is the Vancouver Olympics to the Olympic Games out of its way so not to even mention that fact that French is the founding language of the country and that there is still a very strong French presence (that wins most of Canada's Olympic medals, by-the-way).

Anywhere else than in Canada, French is an official language of the Olympics.

Canada Libre; If you would have read what I wrote you would have seen that I was referring to the Mayor of Moncton in 2000, not the current one AND I mentioned absolutely nothing re disproving,"anything about such a basic and well known historical fact as the deportation of the Acadians." Kindly read what I write before putting your foot into your mouth.

Meanwhile, I saw more French signs in each Vancouver, Ottawa, Toronto in three days, than I have seen in Quebec in three years! :o)

As far as "Your opinion does not make for a valid fact."; as long as we have the status quo, it is a fact. As far as Quebec leaving Canada in the "near future", are you talking in geological terms?

As far as Quebec's haul of Olympic medals is concerned I think that you better check your sources, I googled and http://www.vigile.net/A-separate-Quebec-wouldn-t-win popped up BUT here is a much better one for you to check as 25% of the medal winners are from Quebec and two of them are not even 10% "laine"! Now please read and absorb prior to responding!

Quebec is sooooo kind! At major border crossings Quebec has multilingual signs welcoming tourists. So do the states/provinces bordering QC If you ever go to Boston there is actually a Bienvenue sign when one crosses from MA into Nashua, NH. At the Grand Canyon in AZ there are French signs, as there are in Maine. The point was that "the apartheid state" of Israel has bilingual signs everywhere, and not only at the borders, welcoming "tourists". Canada Libre! You are hilarious!

Anglos in Québec are served with 6 anglo colleges, 3 anglo universities, 4 hospitals including one 3 billions super hospital, 250 medical clinics, 100 anglo-only municipalities (most each and every cities in do offer services in English), dozens or radio and TV stations and weekly medias plus 2 major daily medias.

Your turn now. Ontario French population is as large as Québec anglo. Give the list of services that are reserved for them only.

Canada Libre; One of Quebec's greatest sociological problems is its low rate of charitable giving. If you search for the stats you will see that Quebec's median annual receipted charitable contribution of a tax filer in QC is only 44% of that of 9th place NB! McGill raised 7X what the U de M raised last year. The reason why Quebec's English have so many hospitals and centres of higher education, etc. is because Quebec's Anglos are very charitable. Une autre chose was the fact that there was no way that WASPs were going to go to Hotel Dieu, etc. and have nurses that were nuns treating them. That explains why there are so many Anglo institutions in QC. Why there are so few Franco institutions in Ontario is beyond me BUT the reality is that institutions all over the place grew from donations, and the donations generally went along religious lines. Incidentally, the best endowed hospital in Quebec is the Jewish General. IF the constituency of the St Justine were as charitable as that of the Montreal Children's Hosp, the St Justine would raise about $113 million/yr and not the $22 million or so that it currently raises. For what it is worth voluntarism in QC is the lowest in Canada as well. These are problems that nothing is really being done to solve.

I find it amusing that you fail to mention the significant number of Franco patients at "bilingual" institutions and of course the higher number of Francophone students at Anglo schools, than vice versa. Incidentally, McGill recently raised over $1 billion with their campaign, the second university after the U of Toronto to do so.

Actually, another big problem is the migration of French speakers from Quebec to other parts of Canada, in order to find work. http://www.montrealgazette.com/business/Francophone+migration+Leaving+Qu...
Years ago a friend of mine from the Beauce mentioned how the grandson of a PQ minister had decided to move to Vancouver for a better future.His decision was devastating for the family.

C'mon, it taks a yr to get the stats.The numbers coming to Quebec are relatively very low. On top of that the "quality" immigrants tend to leave Quebec very quickly. There was just something in the news yesterday about Quebec benefiting financially by allowing immigrants in who actually leave for the ROC very soon afterwards.

Another thing Canada Libre,the taxes paid by non Francos in Quebec are far greater than 28.5%. I believe that the figure is 40%. If that is the case perhaps Anglo institutions are actually under-funded. As I told the late Pierre Peladeau in 1996; "The Quebecois are very good with their hands stretched out palm up BUT they are not very good at reaching into their pockets and finding anything to give!" He found the comment, along with others, "very charming and humorous".

So, La Pourriture sees nothing worth to be noticed in the fact that the anglo minority gets ten times more state funding than the majority for their institutions BUT he complains that francos - those who pay for everything - should not be allowed in anglos institutions.

I see, La Pourritue does not want to talk about the enormous privileges that anglos have in Québec anymore. La Pourriture just want to denigrating one of the most peaceful and tolerant nation on earth.

Instead of discussing facts about anglo privileges in Québec, La Pourriture much rather wants to pull another insignificant and undocumented anecdote - your link leads nowhere - to display his hatred for everything that is Québec and not English language..

No Canada Libre. I simply pointed out that a highly disproportionate percentage of the taxes in Quebec are paid by non-Francophones. How you came to the conclusion, that you spouted above, is to say the least highly illogical, BUT then you obviously knew that when you wrote it, because according to what you wrote in an earlier comment, you are "intelligent". In actuality, if 20% of the population is paying 40% of the taxes (and I believe from memory that is the correct figure)the Anglos/Allos of Quebec are essentially subsidizing Francophones with their taxes. This also means that a disproportionate percentage of what goes to Canada in taxation from QC, is not from Francophones as well! Don't worry, because as you can see in the following the PQ is not worried: http://www.ledevoir.com/politique/quebec/374428/l-equilibre-budgetaire-s... That being said, we purchase our wine in Ontario. We shop frequently in New Hampshire where there is 0% sales tax, in fact new snow tires will cost us $330 (+ exchange) there while here in QC would cost us $575 with taxes here. We have not purchased loto tix in QC for 11 mos. We no longer vacation in the Charlevoix, etc. We no longer ski at Mont Ste Anne. We go to Maine and ski in VT (for local vacations). And the absolute best is that we will soon be moving to Ottawa the #2 city in Canada and the #5 city for retirees. Montreal does not make either list. We will pay less income/sales taxes in ON and we will drive frequently to x-c ski and hike in the Gatineaus. I look forward to living among French speaking Canadians in Ottawa, and not Quebecois who are so fixated on language problems, that they forget about solving the real sociological (and not imaginary)problems.

Actually the statement was made by a Quebec Minister (either Revenue or Finance) to a newspaper editor. If you contact the Editor of The Suburban I am confident that he would be able to advise you what he was actually told by the minister, if you can't find it online.
If you do the math re the following you will find that the wealthiest Francophones in QC actually have wealth about equal to the Anglo/Allos. "Canadan Business Magazine has come out with its annual list of Canada’s 100 wealthiest people, with 17 Quebecers among them. Paul Desmarais, head of the Power Corporation, is seventh overall at $4.4 billion. He is followed by the Saputo family, eighth at $4.23 billion courtesy of their food products and other ventures; 90 year old builder David J. Azrieli, 16th at $2.8 billion; Charles Bronfman, 21st, at $2.4 billion; the Cirque de Soleil`s Guy Laliberté, 27th, at $1.98 billion; Future Electronics boss Robert Miller, 29th, at $1.94 billion; builder Marcel Adams, 31st, at $1.93 billion; clothing executive, race car lover Lawrence Stroll, 32nd, at $1.9 billion; the Bombardier family, 33rd, at $1.89 billion; pharmacy mogul Jean Coutu, 35th, at $1.83 billion; investor Stephen Jarislowsky, 47th, at $1.48 billion; Dollarama’s Larry Rossy, 54th, at $1.25 billion; telecommunications giant Charles Sirois, 64th, at $1.07 billion; Alain Bouchard of Couche Tard, 66th, at $1.04 billion; shoe store king Aldo Bensadoun, 89th, at $763 million; the de Gaspé Beaubien family, telecommunications giants as well , 92nd, at $714 million; and media magnate Pierre Karl Peladeau, 97th, at $673 million."

And Quebec simply gets poorer and poorer, just as HEC predicted last February. They wrote that Quebec would become Canada's poorest province unless there were major changes. :o( Feel free to Google in case you never saw their press release.
"Canada's labour market continued to exhibit signs of weakness last month as the economy shed a surprisingly high 39,400 net jobs nationally, with public sector workers and youth taking on the biggest share of the losses.

I believe that the point is exceedingly clear. A disproportionate percentage of the wealth of QC is in the hands of non-Francophones. (40%?) You wrote above that the non-Francophones were receiving a disproportionate amount of tax dollars for their health/educational institutions. You mention that Canada steals Quebec's wealth, yet offer no proof whatsoever and whenever I offer anything you advise that it is not fact. Only what you mention is fact but you never back it up, because what you believe and what is fact are two different things. Quebec is both a sociological and financial basket case. Those are undeniable facts, but to appreciate them one must be logical. Unfortunately, in your case you are so brainwashed that logic will never prevail but that is perfectly fine. You have my sympathies, and my prayers. Hopefully one day you will be able to see things as they are and not as you would like to believe them to be.Until that time, good luck!

Au contraire. You believe that the Quebecois are being put down by, and taken advantage of others. Unfortunately, as a society it appears that the Quebecois have an inferiority complex. A Quebecois actually wrote a book about that. You may wish to ask a research librarian about it. Since the 80s I have observed while hiking in the Adirondacks, that most Quebecois will not make eye contact, with approaching hikers. Failing to do so is a manifestation of an inferiority complex.

Most of the bad image Québec gets on the international scene is because of hateful ethno-centric anglo-imperialist propaganda. Because of those who can not accept that we want to and do exist without submitting to their domination.

I am francophone Quebecer and honestly, you my friend are blind to what is happening to our beautiful province. The ROC does not think it is superior to Quebec however they are watching as Quebec is sabotaging their own at whatever cost to obtain what they feel will be a better situation wherein the reality is that everything logical says it will fail miserably!! And btw...there is no domination happening whatsoever, that is only in the eyes of the separatist. Sorry buddy, but your blinders are on way too tight and because of this, you will never see what demise you are causing your own citizens. In all honesty, reading your posts, it is like arguing with a wall, you make no sense (except to yourself) and you are only looking at the small picture, and to enlighten you, the bigger picture of your reality, would be a very scary one for us here in Quebec.
We won't let you and your brainwashed kind ruin this province and our country. I may be a Quebecer but I am a very proud Canadian!!

Sorry but you are the one who is assuming that I am basing my facts on anecdote. I didn't mention the PhD's opinion (psychology or what the Swiss (French)psychologist who worked in the Montegegie among Francophones had to say. After 25 yrs of frequent hiking in the Adirondacks, it was clear that a highly disproportionate number of Quebecois hikers would not make eye contact with hikers passing in the opposite direction. To those I simply said "Bonjour". My wife and I actually used to laugh as our "Bonjour" was responded to only afterwards with a "Bonjour". The reason why Quebec has such a low level of entrepreneurs is because there is a lack of confidence here to take the plunge and go into business. (This is not my opinion. It has been documented.)The info did not come from The Suburban but you still may wish to call Wajsman's bluff and ask him who supplied the info re 40% of taxes in QC NOT being paid by Francophones. You may write to him at editor@thesuburban.com 30 minutes ago I saw a bumper sticker upon an SUV. It mentioned Gandhi's “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” Guess which province leads Canada in pet abandonment!

First, whatever you say is nothing but some words by someone on the net for as long as you don't have some reliable source or a sensible and fair explanation - which can not be expected from someone who uses his name to denigrate a whole nation, anyways -.

Second, if you had valid facts then you would not be jumping around erratically from a « Swiss (French)psychologist » to « hicking in the Adirondacks » then to entrepreneurs and last to Gandhi and pets.

Let me try to help you now :

The « Swiss (French)psychologist » you mention proly Clothaire Rapaille who was hired by Québec CITY - not the province, Pourriture, the C-I-T-Y ! ) to come up with a strong image for it.

After a few weeks of focus groups, studies and interviews, Rapaille mentioned that Québec CITY's population suffers from an inferiority complex, towards Montréal in particular. That created a media storm and Rapaille never finished his contract with the city.

The interesting point here is that the population of Québec city is special, indeed : Among the francophone, it is by far the most conservative, the most federalist, the most anglo-idolizer and the most trash radio fans of the province.

Nope it was not the Swiss psychologist that you mentioned above. Nope it was not in reference to Quebec City/Montreal, BUT thanks for the story anyways, even though I had come across it earlier. It was a clear reference to the Quebecois. As far as Quebec City is concerned, it is a super place.I would live there in a minute so I could go hike in Parc des Grands Jardins, Haute Gorge de la Riviere Malbaie and ski the Traversee de Charlevoix and at St Ferreol les Neiges with my Quebecois buddies.

The Quebecois have the same legitimate right to defend their own language as the Flemish in Belgium have the same legitimate right to defend their language. The Francophone in Belgium have the same hysteric reaction that the Anglos in Quebec when strict language laws are taken place, it is understandable but it is not constructive and it is self-destructing. Bilinguism is the best option for the Anglos in Quebec.

Quebecois have the right to protect their language, not to project all of their inner demons and insecurities onto others, pollute social peace with state-sponsored persecution, wreck their own economy, go ask for money that comes from other provinces and then still compain about the country in which they live. Would Canada not exist, French Canadians would have been completely assimilated by the almighty US.
So, take a long hard look in the mirror, quit complaining and start finding ways to improve your economy and be more competitive. It's the only thing that will ensure Quebec and its French language continue to thrive in the Future.

In Montreal, most anglos are bilingual enough to get along and communicate quite well in French and most francos can speak a certain level of English as well. It would all work fine except for the separatist influence that expects perfect French from anglos, while ignoring their own imperfect mastery of the English language (witness Marois).

In the rest of Quebec, outside of Montreal and maybe Quebec City, it's pretty rare to find a bilingual francophone. It's also rare to find a francophone who is not willing to try to communicate, unless of course you run into one of you language zealots that won't utter a word of English even if you can, just to prove a point. And that is the problem here.

SpeakingEnglish WhenIwant : « Would Canada not exist, French Canadians would have been completely assimilated by the almighty US. »

Would the real Canadiens and the Natives not taken arms to defend Canada against the US rebels in 1777 and in 1812, there would have be no more Canada and no more medieval loyalist anglos ever in the New-World.

Proof positive in the preceding comments that Quebec nationalists will never be swayed by common sense or logic, distort facts in a well practiced manner to further their own agenda and have little regard for the economic and social damage they have caused and continue to instigate here in what used to be called la belle province.

A little lesson in history on Quebec some seem to neglect/forget:
1)French arrived in Quebec, Jesuits were sent to try and convert Native Indians, some were converted to Catholicism and those who weren’t were put on to reserves as they were deemed “les sauvages” by the French
2)French only wanted part as trading post during the fur trade, did not want to colonize Quebec until the British wanted to.
3)British attacked and won the war on the Plains of Abraham. French had the option of remaining or going back to France. Under the British monarchy,DESPITE the Durham report, French were allowed to keep their language and religion.
4)War of 1812 – French aligned with the Natives and British and fought American invasion.
5)The British maintained Natives on reserves started through the churches; United, Protestant and Catholic, the Resential schools, even Quebec played part in that, like it or not! How easy to blame someone else.
7)Montreal used to be BILINGUAL, one just has to research family history and family tree to realize all documentation was in BOTH languages, from the churches to the provincial government to know that is fact.
8)There is a rumour that was spread about “speak white” however, nothing has ever materialized as evidence here in Quebec however, it was evidenced by Andre Laurendeau in other areas of Canada.
9)Languages have mostly been of provincial jurisdiction and as a result, predominantly English Manitoba in 1916 banned teaching of French however, it was still taught clandestinely and the University of Saint-Boniface still remained.http://www.ustboniface.mb.ca/page.aspx?pid=971
10)Many Anglo-Saxons occupied managerial positions, government positions were held by both Francophones and Anglophones (all verifiable online BTW). The reason Anglo-Saxons occupied these positions is the French catholic church discouraged the French from mingling with the “dirty protestants” while they chartered the first bank and started building Quebec economically. When the French freed themselves from the ties of the church, they were outweighed in our economy by the Anglo-Saxons. Duplessis was the main contributor to the Francophone demise, hence the term “la grande noirceur”. I will not dispute that they were illy treated by their bosses (since I have read only heresay) if they had jobs,the same can be said about ALL who were not part of the elite(Fr & English).
11)Back then, the French, Spanish, English did conquer many countries, this is a fact however, it is also a fact that they were either sent back to their countries, died in battle, or succumbed to the powers that were in charge at the time. It was colonialism, they all did it. And yes, unfortunately there were atrocities committed by ALL!Fact: French empire were the last to free the slaves, yet we’ll just overlook that as well.
12)Quiet Revolution – French taking their rightful place in Quebec society to put everyone on an equal playing field, broke free from the church
13)Anglos a population of approx. 10%, have less than 1% representation in government
14)Setting up companies ALL documentation can only be obtained in French. CSST (workers compensation) only provides services to employers in French and the list goes on. way to encourage foreign investment!
15)The Canadian constitution has entrenched laws regarding minority rights due to bill 101 which has been re-written many times due to court cases and its unconstitutionality and breech of the international constitution.
16)All the above can be verified online, feel free to do some research. Also, as for the links that Canada Libre has posted, they are testament of indoctrination of the Nationalist Francophones here in Quebec and while some is true, a lot of it, has been fabricated to suit their needs.

- Massacres of the Natives and the Metis (Pontiac, Batoche, Louis Riel.. ), parking of the survivors in concentration camps (reservations), internment of generations of their children in forced assimilation institutions, starvation for medical experimentations, etc.

- Each and every peace treaties broken.

- Natives starved to death for medical experimentations

- Imposed federation of all territories and provinces under one centralized power.

- Anti-French apartheid all over the non-Québec Canada for more than a century to eradicate French speaking majority populations.

- Real Canadians (the French) forced into the status of "white ne88ers" – their main living condition indicators under anglo-imperialist domination equal or worse than those of the blacks in USA -. Yet the native’s conditions were even worse than those.

- More than half of real Canadiens forced into permanent exile in order to survive while the governments were heavily sponsoring targeted immigration from Western Europe.

- Imposed charter of rights and constitutions designed specifically to make it impossible for the real Canadiens to protect their language and their culture.

- State terrorism to fake separatist groups (FLQ) ; federal police putting bombs in Montréal, publication of false communiqués, anglo-army occupation of Montréal in 1970, hundreds of people jailed for months with no charge against them, etc. All of that in order to destroy the peaceful and democratic Québec independence movements.

- Criminal activities against Québec regulations to win the two referendum votes on Québec sovereignty.

- Instrumentalization of the ethnics, obligation to move to Montréal to get citizenship, threat of losing it if they voted YES (Parizeau was right ! )

All in all, its the typical systematic and constant denigration of anglo-supremacist against one of the most peaceful and tolerant people on earth. Just because we refuse to submit to their pretention for supremacy.

The other revolting aspect of this language harrasment is that it is all crassly orchestrated by the provincial government, based in Quebec city, for pruely politcal motives. Virtually all of its laws are aimed at keeping Montreal, which is 50% Non-French, in check. The Capital of Quebec has pounded Montreal over and over again, damaging the entity which feeds the rest of the province on the grounds that it is not "French" enough (it never really was, when the English came to Montreal, briefly after the French, they found a tiny village still surrounded by Indigenous people). Montreal has been economically destroyed by the provinvial government while the rest of the Province clapped their hands, cheered and demanded more persecution.
Montreal should secede from Quebec and become a semi-independent entity reporting directly to the Canadian government. That way Montreal would live in peace and the rest of Quebec would have the majority they need to cut themselves loose from Canada.

False and False
1. English diddnt do nothing for Montreal... (Jesus your full of shit)its René Levesque who start the modern industrialisation of Quebec.

2. Quebec dont take crappy federal loans, idiot... he want to be independant and he can Quebec was the first province with Maurice Duplessis to say know to federal centralization and education loans.

3. Much of the separatist sentiments come from Montreal again you are lying... look the fact all the conservative votes come mainly from rural Quebec(french)... Quebec city the capital of Quebec is federalist...

1. Canadian pacific was built by the federal governement both Quebec Province and Ontario put cash. Children Hospital gets fat cash from Quebec governement you are lying same thing for McGill University, Concordia and Royal Victoria Jacques Cartier Bridges was a pure product of Quiet Revolution back by Quebec governements loans, Bell and CIBC are pure products of Canadian Protectionnism false.... if that wasnt the federal governement and the provincials governement Verizon and Bank of America will be here not Bell or CIBC. In fact all that compagny were back by Quebec cash at one moment in the history. Sir you forgot Desjardins and Banque Nationale...

2. Why you put that list of compagny... I will agree with you Anglo canadian did good thing for Montreal but for Anglo canadians only... not french people, fact can be found in the Quiet revolution...

In the 1920's Montreal was the 4th largest city in North America. Destined to a bright future on the international stage. While the French were being by the catholic church not to open businesses or go to school (profit seeking leading to hell). The English in Montreal lay the foundations of the modern Canadian economy.
40 years after the nationalist takeover, Montreal is a ghost of it's former self. It lost it's head office, it's stock exchange (which was bigger than Toronto's TSX) and hundreds of thousands of jobs. Quebecois Nationalists wanted Montreal to be as French as Toronto was English yet the French never contributed economically to Toronto's economy in the way that the English (and Scottish and Irish) contributed to Montreal's.
Today Montreal, the locomotive of Quebec's economy, is in shambles, mired in corruption and having chased away most of it's businesses and wealth creators after decades of state-sponsored and systematic language harrassment.
Quebec is now living off the fumes of what Montreal once was. Having destroyed its own economy, Quebecers now survive on transfers and handouts from the rest of Canada. Ironically the only thing preventing it from sinking in total poverty is that it still belongs to Canada.

False and False. Why you dont talk about Toronto and his mayor....and is big debt Toronto cant even balance his own budget(your full of shit)Quebec, is know to be the Province in Canada to be the more financial stable not like Saskatchewan or oil addcit Alberta. we still have growth.

Sir, I suspect you are either retired, work a government job or work for a state monopoly (Hydro-Quebec, SAQ etc.), enjoying fat benefits which the rest of us Quebecrs need to scrape by in order to be able to pay you (heaviest taxed state in all North America). The rest (there aren't enough of us to support all of you) is sponsored by multi-billion transfers coming from the "oil-addicted" Alberta you despise so much. Quebec has turned itself into the Greece of North America by chasing away business with petty language poltics and paying itself a large welfare state which other provinces don't afford for themselves. Dear Sir, keep praying for Alberta to continue pumping it's dirty oil so that you keep enjoying all those benefits which the rest of North Americans can only dream of, all the while while continuing to hit on the little bit of private enterprise left here.

Quebec financially stable? It is the most corrupt, anti-business province in Canada. And as you're quick to point out perceived errors in other individual's comments, I will point out a couple in yours. Fact -- Saskatchewan has one of the best economies in North America and has the lowest unemployment rate. Quebec's unemployment rate? More than twice Saskatchewan's. Fact -- without Alberta's "oil addicted" economy, Quebec would not be able to afford it's over-indulgent welfare state.

False, read the potash crisis over Saskatchewan you will see that the old good day will vanish soon this is what happen when you are an natural ressources addict;).

1.We may be corrupt , bout our own budget is balance and we still have an exellent credit ratings ;) unlike other city sir... we are far away from bankrupcy unlike others....

2. You know what is the definition of a Confederation??? that imply share of ressources and money. In the history of Canada and dont say that I'm lying each province benefit from another a one moment or another in history.

Quebec still have a good rating, we far away from bankrupcy!!!!, we balance and manage our budget quite well unlike others... Nope sir I worked in compagny that produce the oil from Alberta even if I'm from Quebec something that Alberta need deeply proffessional.... other province give Alberta their manpower and expertise.

2. You know what is the definition of a Confederation??? that imply share of ressources and money. In the history of Canada and dont say that I'm lying each province benefit from another at one moment or another in history.

You obviously have zero knowledge of the subject. Else you would mention the Maritime Seaway and explain how the traffic on the St-Lawrence getting up to the Great Lakes instead of having to stop at Montréal caused a shift of the economy from North-East to Central.

Wow! I can bet that tou are not from Montreal or even Quebec, wow!. Hey here some facts for you
1. The first Anglo mayor that Montreal had since early 20th century Micheal Applebaum was an anglo, he has been charge for coruption last months
2. All the corruption and if you wach the Charbonneau Commision were mostly done by Anglo Italians ;)
3. The mayor that the anglo back for montreal leave is office for corruption....(Gerald Tremblay)
4. Jean Charest an irsh descent ex Prime minister and an anglo, the police have suspicion of corruption over his political party.
5.Arthur Porter ex manager of the only English Hospital in Montreal took taxpayers moneys and try to flee and again an anglo.
Most of the corruption case in Quebec were done by Anglo and dont say that I'm lying please, its a fact that everyone knows in this province :)
5. Thats why we are one of the province to chase corruption with efficacity. Thats why you heard alot about us because we find the Anglo cheaters and put them in jails.
Last things the majority of political, corruption scandals that happen in Canada were done outside Quebec.??? How the hell we can be the most corrupt??? we are one the province with less Scandals in Canada??? here some facts look...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_political_scandals

Right, just like the expansion of America towards the West caused the decline of New York City as the #1 American Metropolis... it's a weak and cowardly excuse.
Everybody knows hundred of thousands of well-paying jobs were moved westward immediately after the Quebecois government made it impossible for any unlingual anglophone to earn a living in Quebec, overnight. In present-day dollars, that damage was worth hundreds of billions.

« He was elected as the ***Liberal*** MNA for Outremont in 1989. He first sat in the National Assembly and served as Minister of Industry, Commerce, Science and Technology in the Bourassa Cabinet from October 11, 1989 to January 11, 1994 »

If not to pass beyond Montréal and connect the Great Lakes to oceanic transport, how would you describe the purpose of the Maritime Seaway ?

Also, how could the economic shift and the population migrations from Québec and Montréal to Toronto and Ontario be caused by Québec imposing respect for its population while those have started almost twenty years before the first PQ government took office ??

And, if you were an honest thinker, how could « Everybody knows » without source nor facts make a sufficient argument for you while a rock solid historical fact with a sound explanation makes me weak and coward ??

You just put your self in the bag of fanatic anti French language and anti Québec supremacists.