Tandems and velo mobiles are slower than guys doing motor pacing or riding with a killer tail wind... Unless said riders are also hunting flattish KOM's depending on wind direction. KOMs on the flats are just a bit of fun, the weather plays too big a part in them... KOMs up climbs, especially ones over 4 or 5% and longer than a couple of minutes do actually give you a good idea of where you stand in the cycling world .Personally I definitely think about where to go hunting if there is a good wind blowing... It's all part of the fun.

I have updated my sig, staying as 1 line to keep RonnyK happy , and have changed the fields to elevation and distance. However now it has last years included as well, instead of just this years. Does anyone know how to fix it to just get 2013 data inluded?

warthog1 wrote:I have updated my sig, staying as 1 line to keep RonnyK happy , and have changed the fields to elevation and distance. However now it has last years included as well, instead of just this years. Does anyone know how to fix it to just get 2013 data inluded?

There's 2 distance and elevation fields in the drop down boxes to select fields. One is total (which you are using), and one is for the Year. Pick the other one

toolonglegs wrote: KOMs on the flats are just a bit of fun, the weather plays too big a part in them... KOMs up climbs, especially ones over 4 or 5% and longer than a couple of minutes do actually give you a good idea of where you stand in the cycling world

Amen to that, however I proudly retain my status as KOM over an insignificant piece of deserted country road in WA that I didn't even know was a segment, that hardly anyone ever rides and has a pimple of a 10m rise in an otherwise completely flat, straight road.

toolonglegs wrote: KOMs on the flats are just a bit of fun, the weather plays too big a part in them... KOMs up climbs, especially ones over 4 or 5% and longer than a couple of minutes do actually give you a good idea of where you stand in the cycling world

the problem with the ones up climbs is that there is a select bunch between whom they're all shared, and the rest of us can't get within a bull's roar of.

toolonglegs wrote: KOMs on the flats are just a bit of fun, the weather plays too big a part in them... KOMs up climbs, especially ones over 4 or 5% and longer than a couple of minutes do actually give you a good idea of where you stand in the cycling world

Amen to that, however I proudly retain my status as KOM over an insignificant piece of deserted country road in WA that I didn't even know was a segment, that hardly anyone ever rides and has a pimple of a 10m rise in an otherwise completely flat, straight road.

Hey it might be fun, but it is serious fun ... even with wind aid, tt bikes & maybe motor pacing there are still some very hard fought for flat kom's around .

jules21 wrote:

toolonglegs wrote: KOMs on the flats are just a bit of fun, the weather plays too big a part in them... KOMs up climbs, especially ones over 4 or 5% and longer than a couple of minutes do actually give you a good idea of where you stand in the cycling world

the problem with the ones up climbs is that there is a select bunch between whom they're all shared, and the rest of us can't get within a bull's roar of.

i'm clinging to my 2/880 on a downhill section on my commute home

Luckily I have hundreds of Cat 4 up to HC climbs around that some of us can fight over the crumbs, plenty of non Stava'd climbs around yet to claim . But we have two of the strongest amateur clubs in France close by, plenty of National and even world champions around... their times up the most popular climbs are staggering. But then you get a race with the real big names going over some of them and they take it to an insane level .

Around my parts the roads are blasted by serious A grade racers, so my driveway KOM is about all I can hope to own, though given a favorable wind I've gone top 20 on a few segments, top 10 on a couple. Top 5 on one. I find these comparisons fun but understand I'm not in the competition, I'm just a statistical anomaly. Or an atomospheric one

When riding on the road with my friends however, we will compete on segments or agreed "race you to the next corner" type things - those competitions are priceless (and wins albeit few in my case) but we have some fun and motivate ourselves regardless of the elite guys.

toolonglegs wrote: KOMs on the flats are just a bit of fun, the weather plays too big a part in them... KOMs up climbs, especially ones over 4 or 5% and longer than a couple of minutes do actually give you a good idea of where you stand in the cycling world

Amen to that, however I proudly retain my status as KOM over an insignificant piece of deserted country road in WA that I didn't even know was a segment, that hardly anyone ever rides and has a pimple of a 10m rise in an otherwise completely flat, straight road.

toolonglegs wrote: KOMs on the flats are just a bit of fun, the weather plays too big a part in them... KOMs up climbs, especially ones over 4 or 5% and longer than a couple of minutes do actually give you a good idea of where you stand in the cycling world

Amen to that, however I proudly retain my status as KOM over an insignificant piece of deserted country road in WA that I didn't even know was a segment, that hardly anyone ever rides and has a pimple of a 10m rise in an otherwise completely flat, straight road.

Late start to the year due to holidays. I extended the commute a bit yesterday and surprised myself with a 10th place on a small quiet segment . So I did it again this morning with some urgency and grabbed the KOM by 0:01 . Felt a little bad after looking into it as it was the previous KOM's only one.

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