Someone made a great post earlier about how the play of Armstrong and Talbot faded yet everyone remembers the great times. Kennedy and Adams come to mind as two regulars who are probably getting a pass on their play because of Cup championship memories.

The 4th line has been a no show basically all year. When you have third line all struggling to score as well, then when Crosby and Malkin's lines are held in check or even challenged things are going to be rough.

I think this team can no longer afford to have such limited 3rd and 4th line scoring chances. Sutter has gotten quite a few of his scoring chances jumping up lines.

- Clarkson isn't that good of a player to be honest, but I guess he's going to get that "grass is always greener" following now that he's scored a couple of against us. .

Yeah. I definitely have to disagree with you on this one. A lot.

Currently, he leads the Devils coming into this game with 13 points in 11 games. That would be 4th on the Pens behind Sid, Geno, and Kunitz. Last year, he had 46 points in 80 games.

Not to mention the intangibles. He hits. A lot and makes it count. He goes to the net and is smart with the puck.

Not much more you can ask from an undrafted forward...

He's definitely not smart with the puck. He's getting a bit better than what he used to be (useless toe drag that gains no space into a wrap-around...or Clark-around, as it was so named because he did it so often). He doesn't really have any hockey sense and he's an iffy skater, falls a lot too. Yeah, he hits, but it's not we don't have players that are capable hitters...all of the wingers we get are designed to be grinders/hitters/go-to-the-netters, just like they did in '09. Now, whether they can or can't do that any more or if the style of the team has gotten away from that is a matter for the courts. But Clarkson, ignoring the boxscore but watching him on the ice, isn't much better than our current core of players...

He's an upgrade on Kunitz? Also an undrafted forward in the same mold...I guess maybe slightly at this point in each of their careers, but not enough to be worth acquiring or paying for...

Clarkson could play on my team any day. He actually scores his goals by standing in front of the net (novel idea). He plays hard, finishes his checks and scored 30 goals in a league that is not easy to score in....

Someone made a great post earlier about how the play of Armstrong and Talbot faded yet everyone remembers the great times. Kennedy and Adams come to mind as two regulars who are probably getting a pass on their play because of Cup championship memories.

I think the LGP consensus is that Adams brings less than nothing to the table 5 on 5. I don't think our lineup is so stacked that we can afford to dress a guy that only does PK and nothing else.

Scary to think nobody in WBS has been able to steal his job. Skate, hit everything that moves, play PK. Should have half a dozen of those guys in your system. The next Talbot, Vitale, etc..

- Clarkson isn't that good of a player to be honest, but I guess he's going to get that "grass is always greener" following now that he's scored a couple of against us. .

Yeah. I definitely have to disagree with you on this one. A lot.

Currently, he leads the Devils coming into this game with 13 points in 11 games. That would be 4th on the Pens behind Sid, Geno, and Kunitz. Last year, he had 46 points in 80 games.

Not to mention the intangibles. He hits. A lot and makes it count. He goes to the net and is smart with the puck.

Not much more you can ask from an undrafted forward...

He's definitely not smart with the puck. He's getting a bit better than what he used to be (useless toe drag that gains no space into a wrap-around...or Clark-around, as it was so named because he did it so often). He doesn't really have any hockey sense and he's an iffy skater, falls a lot too. Yeah, he hits, but it's not we don't have players that are capable hitters...all of the wingers we get are designed to be grinders/hitters/go-to-the-netters, just like they did in '09. Now, whether they can or can't do that any more or if the style of the team has gotten away from that is a matter for the courts. But Clarkson, ignoring the boxscore but watching him on the ice, isn't much better than our current core of players...

He's an upgrade on Kunitz? Also an undrafted forward in the same mold...I guess maybe slightly at this point in each of their careers, but not enough to be worth acquiring or paying for...

I wouldn't say an upgrade to Kunitz, but he's definitely something the Pens sorely lack the most in my opinion, which is a physical top-six forward (for Geno/Neal) that will go to the net and open up space.

What? You think you know hockey because you write for some two-bit blog that will let any hack write for them? - Not being serious, bro.

Clarkson is not a complete package. At all. But the guy has a nose for the net. He goes in straight lines, hits, and scores. Put him in a role where he can use those skills to succeed (as the Devils have done) and he scores 30. I'd take him alongside Crosby or Malkin any day of the week.

- Clarkson isn't that good of a player to be honest, but I guess he's going to get that "grass is always greener" following now that he's scored a couple of against us. .

Yeah. I definitely have to disagree with you on this one. A lot.

Currently, he leads the Devils coming into this game with 13 points in 11 games. That would be 4th on the Pens behind Sid, Geno, and Kunitz. Last year, he had 46 points in 80 games.

Not to mention the intangibles. He hits. A lot and makes it count. He goes to the net and is smart with the puck.

Not much more you can ask from an undrafted forward...

He's definitely not smart with the puck. He's getting a bit better than what he used to be (useless toe drag that gains no space into a wrap-around...or Clark-around, as it was so named because he did it so often). He doesn't really have any hockey sense and he's an iffy skater, falls a lot too. Yeah, he hits, but it's not we don't have players that are capable hitters...all of the wingers we get are designed to be grinders/hitters/go-to-the-netters, just like they did in '09. Now, whether they can or can't do that any more or if the style of the team has gotten away from that is a matter for the courts. But Clarkson, ignoring the boxscore but watching him on the ice, isn't much better than our current core of players...

He's an upgrade on Kunitz? Also an undrafted forward in the same mold...I guess maybe slightly at this point in each of their careers, but not enough to be worth acquiring or paying for...

I'd take a 30 goal scorer that will fight and lead the team in hits any day of the week. I'd take two actually.

pcm wrote:Clarkson is not a complete package. At all. But the guy has a nose for the net. He goes in straight lines, hits, and scores. Put him in a role where he can use those skills to succeed (as the Devils have done) and he scores 30. I'd take him alongside Crosby or Malkin any day of the week.

I'd rather play Jeffrey than Adams every time. Realistically, if he's not scoring, how many goals do you think he "saves"? 5? 6? No matter the number I'd wager that it's less than Jeffrey would score 5 on 5 in a full season.