...hello,regarding the post about "local shapers vs mastershapers, etc";you name Mandala...the guy who shape those boards is not a master shaperhe s a newbie and only shaped a few hundreds

anyway, be in mind that most of the hipsters Cali boards are not so incrediblebut they have the luck to have top notch glassers crew, like moonlight glassing, waterman guild, global, etc

the foam is NOT so good, like the Aussie ones; some designs are useless; don t think too much in the fins (area, flexibility, rigidness in the base, AOA s, set up positions, long etc)even the logotypes aren t pro buildand I m talking lot of money to buy one...

-to be a good surfer with good boardsis not like you say buy a Jaguarin this field is a bit differentand sometimes you should sharp the eye a bit moreand not fall in some hipster brand

a good design is a good designa retro is another thingcan be good or not but is not an evolution