As I said before, and got lambasted for it, the game really needs to be 64 players deep... Sorry. This map is huge... It's going to be very barron and vaccant even with 32 players on it. Hell, some maps are so big now you run and run and run and drive and drive and drive without being in the mix of things. I just don't think this mpa is going to lend itself to the experience of Warhawk.

Warhawk is best on smaller maps and 32 players... or when every is in warhawks. Simple as that.

well i gotta agree in some way with you.. this particular map is huuuugggeee.. would be ideal for a 64 player match, but in honesty, the others are quite perfect if you ask me. Just enough action, sometime the smaller maps can be way too chaotic.

The thing is... Hear me out. When you get down to it, at the most you're only going to be fighting 16 other people. That's it. so, when you put that spin on it... things don't look so broad now do they? 32 players against 32 players would be ideal. Dylan said back in the Beta that they had 64 players up and running but they didn't feel it was optimal. Maybe someday we'll get the patch to do so??

While I agree that 64 players would be cool... it has proven not to be necessary as of yet. Although Warhawk has some huge maps... it leaves space to take sneaky routes to your objectives (particularly when trying to avoid the 'hot spots' when returning the flag). But even though the maps are big, it's never hard to find where the primary action is.... I suspect it will be the same on this map.

I guess my point is, the only way to be on a map and not be in the action is if you CHOOSE to stay away from the action... and even then it'll catch you sooner or later (particularly if you're carrying a flag). The map designs of Warhawk are pretty genius... and this one in particular looks better than the original ones! I hope they give us one or two more of these map packs!

totall off topic, but ... After playing Warhawk since the beta and loving it... don't you just wish Incog would've obtained the Batman licence? Imagine a full on open scale Batman game, set in Gotham and flying a Batwing around like you do the Warhawks... Man, that'd own all.

Of course they'd have to work on the ground batmobile controls, cause the jeeps and tanks aren't so responsive.. but man... I'd love to see that game made.

Requires a bit more thinking, planning, and strategy. The map also forces you to really use the Drop ships for what they where intended for. Quick transport of troops and armor. However, people have made a very interesting point. Warhawk was capable of 32vs32 play but their level designs didn't make sense for it at the time. This could open up the opportunity for a 32vs32 gameplay. Lets hope!

im hearing more comparisons to battlefield. Its slower, kinda like a halo, but i always thought halo was too slow, it made me angry that there was no run option, so i guess you could compare it like that

battlefield is a good comparison. its hard to define a speed on it simply because the speed of the vehicles plays into your experience. if you want an idea of how the vehicles feel, play twisted metal black. its not quite arcade speed and not quite real speed. its perfect.

Not that Warhawk is like either of those games but the speed is closer to UT3 than Halo 3. It's fast paced, adrenaline rush type action... You can use strategy... but you won't have time while you're playing to strategize.

Alternately, if you choose to sit in a turret and wait for the chance to shoot down warhawks and tanks... or is you find a good sniping position, the game slows down. But that's part of the beauty of this game... the amount of options they gave us allow us to take on so many different playing styles.

And I do agree...warhawk will support 64 players...(32VS32) The reason why they did not support it in the release was because the maps were not that big enough...remember warhawk is 5 maps with 5 different configurations in each for 25 different maps...this new booster pack...is 1 huge map with at least 5 different configurations...correct me if I am wrong...

This new map is so huge it would support the 64 player game limit...but only dedicated servers will be able to support this. Somebody ask dylan the question on 32 players VS 32 players!

I'm guilty of having blasted you the other day for the, "maps are too big" comment, but dude after seeing this, I think I owe you an apology. This map is bigger than Texas all the different places to roam/camp are just MINDBLOWING. It's going to be a sniper's/camper's paradise. Good Gawd, they are reaching close to video game "bliss" with this game. With a few tweaks, this game has *all of the potential to garner that elusive title of a (((must-buy-right-now))) game (for me it's a no brainer). Incognito are really, really impressing me w/ this effort and showing all of us what the PS3 can do essentially, in it's sleep. Simply, incredible.

P.S. - I love the crickets mixed in with small arms fire ambiance. Surreal!

This update seems good so far, lets just hope they add in some new vehicles in the next one. I'd love to see a hummer with a TOW on it, much like SOCOM 3 ^_^. Some dirtbikes would be sweet, and some vehicles from motorstorm that have machine guns mounted on them xDDDDD Also, we need a space map, but let us have the Enterprise!! Oh, and more weapons would be nice.