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WMToolbox + Helios are now part of GeoGlyph, at $100 for 4K resolution.
much better

interestingly, Quadspinner is about to launch a new app, currently in Beta > Quadspinner TOR

Awesome!

I thought Helios was discontinued completly? so now what?..is he implementing that as his own atmospheric engine with his own terrain generator, and tries to make a competitive option as alternative to vue?

regarding GeoGlyph, tested textured displacement filters in LW, and it did an alright job on it.
so might skip the GeoGlyph thing... maybe.

reason > it's yet one more expense, and yet one more thing to learn, and 4K only.
could pay $240 for 8K resolution, however that'd mean a mandatory upgrade of World Machine also > $210
= $450 upgrade .... a bit much.

regarding GeoGlyph, tested textured displacement filters in LW, and it did an alright job on it.
so might skip the GeoGlyph thing... maybe.

reason > it's yet one more expense, and yet one more thing to learn, and 4K only.
could pay $240 for 8K resolution, however that'd mean a mandatory upgrade of World Machine also > $210
= $450 upgrade .... a bit much.

Not sure where you got the information of helios being bundled with Geoglyph? canīt find anything on that on his site, and I was confused since I know it needs vue to run, and furthermore, it was discontinued.
so GeGlyph can not be Geoglyph + Helios, Helios was only an vue addon for better clouds, so yes..it can only be terrain with Geoglyph.
or maybe he just bundled a sale with geoglyph and helios, though they really do not have anything to do with eachother as part of.
Misread or misunderstood?

Have been seeing truesky some years ago, Impressive since itīs realtime, it is however still only at a 50% or so in quality and realism compared to a rendered cloud as we can see in vue or terragen, the clouds still to blocky in detail, and lacks the softness fading, and the light scattering illumination as well as shadows are not there, itīs a trade off...ideally this is something one would like to have when setting a scene up, to see it in realtime, and then a checkbox before a final render with all the improvements that is lacking in realtime.

Wow, that looks amazing. I've been a real fan of GeoGlyph, and could kind of see where they were heading, will be very interested to see Tor when released. Hopefully there will be some path for existing GeoGlyph customers to get to Tor, as GeoGlyph itself has been a bit moribund in progress.