The female jumping beans also draw lots of "nyah, nyah" comments as their bodies mature and they're forced to re-learn their technique, which sometimes compromises their consistency. Double standard again.

Again, these comments are usually made by people who need to get a life. They're probably insecure about their own bodies so they can't help but jeer at skater's growing (heaven forbid!) as nature intended.

And now more than ever the wins often happen at the expense of artistry, which I find disappointing. The art vs. sport conundrum -- again.

I'm okay with that. I don't think that a skater should be denied the ability to win a championship because they don't have the maturity/artistry (which is subjective anyways), but they should be denied wins if they don't attempt great difficulty or skate technically well.

It's unreal that a skater like Kostner/Asada/Kim has a 12-15 point advantage over other skaters, who could be reeling off 7-triple performances while they make major errors and still place behind the top ladies. If there's any good thing about Lipnitskaia's/Hanyu's skyrocketing PCS last season, at least it will force the other skaters to ensure they go for high difficulty (3-3 and quads), which might result in more errors overall in the field, but it will elevate the sport more than Arakawa's or Lysacek's play-it-safe Olympic wins.

So you're saying Julia shouldn't win any GP/Euros/Worlds/Olympics in 2018 at the age of 19?

Originally Posted by CanadianSkaterGuy

I'm okay with that. I don't think that a skater should be denied the ability to win a championship because they don't have the maturity/artistry (which is subjective anyways), but they should be denied wins if they don't attempt great difficulty or skate technically well.

It's unreal that a skater like Kostner/Asada/Kim has a 12-15 point advantage over other skaters, who could be reeling off 7-triple performances while they make major errors and still place behind the top ladies. If there's any good thing about Lipnitskaia's/Hanyu's skyrocketing PCS last season, at least it will force the other skaters to ensure they go for high difficulty (3-3 and quads), which might result in more errors overall in the field, but it will elevate the sport more than Arakawa's or Lysacek's play-it-safe Olympic wins.

The only thing I'm a bit concerned is that I don't want to push too much the juniors and risk injuries.

With the mass retirements this year now its truly a young girls sport that it was evolving to. Every GP, worlds, euros, should be won by a girl 18 or younger.

Says you?

What about if Yuna came back and skated perfectly? Should she not win GPs, Worlds or anything since she's over 18? Or Mao? Or Gracie, since Gracie is now 18 and by extension of your logic, too old to win GPs Worlds etc. What about when Adelina turns 18? Or when Yulia turns 18? Or Ashley or Mirai or Carolina or basically the majority of international female skaters....?

What about if Yuna came back and skated perfectly? Should she not win GPs, Worlds or anything since she's over 18? Or Mao? Or Gracie, since Gracie is now 18 and by extension of your logic, too old to win GPs Worlds etc. What about when Adelina turns 18? Or when Yulia turns 18? Or Ashley or Mirai or Carolina or basically the majority of international female skaters....?

I read that "should" comment as "it will most likely happen", not "it will happen." English language quirks.

But then I saw the comment about no one over 18 being good enough to win. LOL, OK.