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Month for PDB for party of duo-trio accounters while lvling bunch of alt-chars. 2-3 wheeks for an solomonk. 7-8 hours a day. Nettlez on the way. 30 parts for 2 wheeks. Well enough for top gear groprate. The only problem now - low ppl population on servers (remi), and high price for end product cause of dat. Casuals can go n play their mobas.

All i know - parts is drops. Pretty good in lenald and BWabbits dung rooms if u r doin challanges (if someone dosent know - if u have 600 base pp party and doin chall u will get + for every char to unlokc (or maybe only fixed plus - needed to investigate). Anyway. if u will got +pp from chall enough to have unlock u can drop parts even if your arty does not unlock loot before battle.

To get 1 relic (PD we have farmed a mount. Every day leveling our alts and guild mates, getting loot in process. We bought only 20 pieces - so we got 80 for a month. For me its normal for BEST quip in pretty grinding game.

If for u all its not - just keep cryin. SURE ankama will make relics and all all all loot easy 1 point click dropped only because some ppls (even some extremely greedy mboxers) thinks that it drops bad and he can not get best gear in the game just palayin 1-2 hours in a day (THAT how it must be normal *sarcasm*).

That's funny when a casual gamers want Relics,which is supposed to be Hardcore Items

There is no way I am asking 2 to 4 other players (who may also want a relic) to dedicate months worth of their time so I can get a relic which would be outdated by the time I actually get it.
The way people are replying makes me see this system as a way of forcing people to be as selfish as possible.

This.

Dunno how you, but i am see this system stimulating team gameplay - not selfishness. If u cant find team that can dedicate time for TEAM sake - not someone. And decide who will care relic - top lvl game not for you =_=

basically this concept will verrry slightly bridge the gap between players who have relics and those who do not. Those with relics, as I said, will still be better than those without. If those with relics have difficulties with content, how much harder will it be for those without? Shouldn't there be a middle ground? Something too easy is boring, but something too hard simply becomes a job.

Middle group is gelano - even runed its pretty useless.

Wakfu not solo-game even if u multiboxer. Wanna good gear and great adventures - get a statick party an friends. Otherway i see no way to play at 120 + and get good loot. Random party is an hell. No voice chat. No subordination. None practice in strategy and etc.

Yes - I have also acc with 140 enu. I have bunch of friends. We have 4-5 hours online every day or more. Most of loot im not sellin too cause ppl in my static and guild need a lot of gear, or they would not get fun from game yeah.

This is MMO. Wanna get fun - first get a good friends.
If u would not - u will not survive on 120+ content XD.

Relics are best gear in the game. At least in classification. So basically u must be on of the best in some aspect of game to get em. For me its pretty fair.
If u are best in looting and luck - loot parts.
If u are best in market speculations - get moneys and buy them.
If u are best in mining - make kamas and buy them.
Its just like an sign that u put time and your initiative in this game. I like it. (Bus still have no relic on chars caus none Iop or Enu need them at the moment lold. 10/6 enough for me.)

1. Bugs - its main problem of wakfu - every new patch every new idea we got 2-3 wheeks of pain before it will work.

2. IMHO ap items that use non usual AP slot MUST be hard to get. boots/crown/epas u can get now only in already heavy armed team. Thats good. Cause hard work must be honored well.

2.1 - Even 10 relic piece are awfully easy to get. 150kk-pece. 1.5 mk for that. 2 orange drops or maybe even one from lenalds themple at our server. Easy? Yes - less then a wheek to farm.

Mango says well - before completion relics must not provide us AP. Just like makas etc. But if it would not - it would not be so worth to wear. IMHO - yes. then why then put in this leveling?

If u want new non standart AP items - i think yellow shushu items or etc good candidate for that. But still IMHO it mus be as well as RPieces of existing AP items - lowrate rare drop. Or soon ALL good players on server will run everywhere with 12/6(or even 7) builds.

Is it good or bad. IMHO bad cause it will be casual and standart. And will have no challange at the way of obtan it.

For me easy are not good at all.
If u will easily get needed equip and kill wanted bosses game become boring soon. Than what will keep you here? PVP pn 5th? with no loot honor new gear and reason? No thanks.

This post has been edited by Basil-Verde-fon-Griffer - February 06, 2014, 19:45:09.

HP important for all but it not so important to stat it. Just pick right equip. This game about drop equip, wearin right equip and cryin on forum that it so hard to get relic cause u are not south-parkish nolife gamer =D