Dorner becoming Progressive icon

Ex LAPD officer Christopher Dorner, who went on a rampage, has become a Leftist icon. With the release of his Progressive manifesto many on the Left like Charles Johnson and Wonkette openly sympathize with Dorner.

The ex-LAPD officer and former Navy reservist who posted a 14-page “manifesto” detailing his plans for a revenge-fueled rampage across California is still at large, with the search expanding into other regions.

He is a suspect in the shooting deaths of three people, including a member of Riverside PD, and the daughter of Dorner’s former lawyer.

None of this has dissuaded a group of ardent supporters who back Dorner for a variety of reasons. #GoDornerGo, #WeAreAllChrisDorner and other hashtags have been gaining momentum on Twitter. Some supporters appear to be motivated by personal issues; others express anti-hero worship and fugitive fandom to push specific agendas.

If Christopher Dorner had been a Conservative/Libertarian he would be enemy #1 and the Right would be tied to him. Obama would be out campaigning against Right Wing violence. But since Dorner is a Progressive he gets a pass and has become an idol.

Now to be fair, some who support Dorner do so because they hate the LAPD. Ask any California resident about the LAPD and they will tell you it is more of a paramilitary force of thugs than a police force. But had Dorenr been a Conservative/Libertarian, would there have been support for his acts? Nope, it would have been used to prove the Right is violent. This is a blatant double standard.

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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.

Well maybe the left should now call for all black people to be disarmed. Or anyone that voted or Obama. If they really meant it, then it should be easy enough for them to give up their guns to please Obama.

If you are not from California, odds are you are completely incapable of understanding the emotional sentiment wrapped up in this statement. If you pay attention to what Californian’s say about California, one of our biggest complaints is that California has become a police state. An insane percentage of you even think we deserve it.

However, when we (those of us from California) make that statement, we are not talking about what you think we are talking about. We are not talking about the California that only exists in the media and your minds eye. What we are talking about is the California where in the same year that OJ Simpson murdered his wife and her friend, the Rampart Police Departments “CRASH” anti-gang/drug unit, murdered 57 people and were L.A.’s largest cocaine dealers.

If you have never had to deal with a Californian police officer, then you probably cannot comprehend why so many Californian’s would consider Dorner to be a Robin Hood-ish anti-hero. To put it bluntly, far to many (not all by any means) but far to many California police officers do not protect and serve, they dominate and oppress. To say that they are abusive thugs, would be an understatement akin to describing the Gestapo as being boy scouts.

NO, I AM NOT CONDONING Dorner’s actions in any way shape or form. His actions are utterly unacceptable, on the other hand, look at the LAPD’s first response to Dorner, they ran out just as fast as they could and shot a couple of women delivering newspapers, who weren’t even driving the same model, make or color truck as Dorner owned.

America’s revolutionary War started with an incident at Lexington and Concord, our civil war, at Fort Sumpter, it never occurred to me that the next civil war might start over a disturbed Liberal ex-cop going nuts.

All indications (He did attend Dam Neck) are that he is extremely intelligent. Of course, all indications are also that he has slipped the bounds of sanity as well, which probably makes him all the more dangerous.

heysoos wrote:
to fake the police…he’s established himself in the wilderness, when he’s actually elsewhere
Of all the pics/films I’ve seen of the cops in Great Bear looking for him you know what I didn’t see?
Dogs. THAT is weird.

dogs might run him down in a day or two…if he’s up there
I don’t think he is

heysoos wrote:
The Osprey wrote:
Dorner Unchained
yes…if he’s smart this is not even close to being over

All indications (He did attend Dam Neck) are that he is extremely intelligent. Of course, all indications are also that he has slipped the bounds of sanity as well, which probably makes him all the more dangerous.

or prone to make a mistake…it’s a bad rabbit, I would not want to have to hunt down this guy

If you have never had to deal with a Californian police officer, then you probably cannot comprehend why so many Californian’s would consider Dorner to be a Robin Hood-ish anti-hero. To put it bluntly, far to many (not all by any means) but far to many California police officers do not protect and serve, they dominate and oppress. To say that they are abusive thugs, would be an understatement akin to describing the Gestapo as being boy scouts.

heysoos wrote:
to fake the police…he’s established himself in the wilderness, when he’s actually elsewhere
Of all the pics/films I’ve seen of the cops in Great Bear looking for him you know what I didn’t see?
Dogs. THAT is weird.

Great Bear? you mean, Big Bear? Dogs don’t/can’t track in the middle of a snow storm.

I used to idolize all police officers. My old man who was a lot more wordily told me “don’t to be stupid. Not every cop is going to be a good guy”.

Since then I have interacted with a lot of police(not in ca) and come away thinking of them as professionals under grinding and cold ROE. And though still a few criminals in the ranks, they play better the the general population.

Dorner referenced the Rodney King riots in his rant. He was maybe 10 years old at that time—and still chose to join the force that he claims “has not improved since” the King incident.
He was a murderous whacko from the beginning, for my money. If the LAPD is as bad as he claims, it’s because they let him and others like him in in the first place.

in the same year that OJ Simpson murdered his wife and her friend, the Rampart Police Departments “CRASH” anti-gang/drug unit, murdered 57 people and were L.A.’s largest cocaine dealers.

You did notice the highlighted part, right? This is not something I am exaggerating or making up.

If he is in the woods in daytime he will eventually run across someone. He stands out like a sore thumb.

I would think the fact that they haven’t caught him and he hasn’t acted again makes him very dangerous to anyone he runs across.

I would think he definitely wants to mis direct his pursuers. Can he go back into the city? probably not. Maybe into part of the wilderness he hasn’t visited before, but there will be another vehicle then somewhere.

guess what…Dorian is not my enemy, he’s my brother, and we spat…California is not some foreign concept, it’s our fellow state, full of good people trying to make it out of this mess…we need to stand together…don’t even start this CA failure shit with regard to this subject

@ darkwords:
Well, he could be anywhere, but if you mean the area around Great Bear Lake, I kind of doubt it. A big black guy like him would stick out like a sore thumb in an area mostly inhabited (and sparsely, at that) by Dene Indians.

My best guess is that he’s let his hair grow out, has a beard, and is living quietly in some black neighborhood, where he won’t stand out much. Are there any really recent pictures? A few months of hair/beard growth, and that guy would be unrecognizable.

You did notice the highlighted part, right? This is not something I am exaggerating or making up.

I don’t doubt it—but why should New Orleans have the corner on corruption? BTW, I have no idea where “Ramparts” is.

In the meantime, if Dorner joined the LAPD to get him some dealin’ action, then his complaint would be that he was frozen out of the fat bucks he expected—in which case, screw him. If he joined to be an honest cop, he might have a grievance, but I wouldn’t bet on it—I’ve still got to wonder why he decided to join the LAPD, if he grew up believing that the LAPD was eeeevil from the age of 10.

“I was wronged, everyone BUT me is wrong, I am going to MAKE them see that I am right-by any means necessary and I am justified in doing so”.

Now the average delusional person has no power of their own so they band together to support a totalitarian establishment that they THINK is actually doing their bidding, but in this guys case he has/had enough individual power to be his own little totalitarian power… this caseis like a mix of crack and porn to libs. I expect many are routing for him and he will become a folk-hero to them.

Dorner definitely will have many leftists and people who could be Obama’s sons harboring him

The thing about harboring a murderous whacko fugitive who has already killed several times is that there’s no downside to his refusing to leave live witnesses to where he has stayed. Some people may find this out the hard way.

@ 32 waldensianspirit: Could work. Celebrity has its effect. The guy has a message he wants to extend but knows he is going to die. The story lives longer if Sheen is attached to it.

The guy says he is without love and hence no fear. That is something of an illusion. He is all smiles in his pictures. He references a lot of influences. It seems like he just snapped at a trigger point and erupted. It seems like a good approach for a hostage negotiator to intercede and re humanize he story. I think over time he will have a lot of doubts. It will become a bad dream for him.

But me personally he has made his statement. I did not read his manifesto on purpose nor will I ever. The only thing he can do to get my attention is to put a bullet in his own brain. Save everyone the burden.

@ darkwords:
What do you bet he never went to Big Bear? He’s smart, and he seems to be a personable sort of guy if he wants to be. Suppose before he starts killing people, he gets some acquaintance to drive the truck up to Big Bear and drop it for him, so he can “pick it up when comes over the pass from the other side” on a hunting trip. And maybe this dupe is now too afraid for his own life to be calling the cops, or else still believes Dorner is a good guy.

I know if I were going to go on a personal jihad like this, and it is a jihad of sorts, I would do as much as I could to misdirect the enemy.

Dorner definitely will have many leftists and people who could be Obama’s sons harboring him

The thing about harboring a murderous whacko fugitive who has already killed several times is that there’s no downside to his refusing to leave live witnesses to where he has stayed. Some people may find this out the hard way.

@ darkwords:
What do you bet he never went to Big Bear? He’s smart, and he seems to be a personable sort of guy if he wants to be. Suppose before he starts killing people, he gets some acquaintance to drive the truck up to Big Bear and drop it for him, so he can “pick it up when comes over the pass from the other side” on a hunting trip. And maybe this dupe is now too afraid for his own life to be calling the cops, or else still believes Dorner is a good guy.
I know if I were going to go on a personal jihad like this, and it is a jihad of sorts, I would do as much as I could to misdirect the enemy.

@ darkwords:
What do you bet he never went to Big Bear? He’s smart, and he seems to be a personable sort of guy if he wants to be. Suppose before he starts killing people, he gets some acquaintance to drive the truck up to Big Bear and drop it for him, so he can “pick it up when comes over the pass from the other side” on a hunting trip. And maybe this dupe is now too afraid for his own life to be calling the cops, or else still believes Dorner is a good guy.
I know if I were going to go on a personal jihad like this, and it is a jihad of sorts, I would do as much as I could to misdirect the enemy.

his sister has property up there…a perfect misdirect

he could be hiding anywhere, or he could be sitting against a tree with a self inflicted gunshot wound… anything is possible.

@ 47 Alberta Oil Peon: Yes that would be his best option. To threaten some dupe. Pay him to drive he truck up there and burn it. Given that he got in that shoot out earlier that might be hard to execute. But he mostly likely had another vehicle there he drove out.

@ darkwords:
Well, he could be anywhere, but if you mean the area around Great Bear Lake, I kind of doubt it. A big black guy like him would stick out like a sore thumb in an area mostly inhabited (and sparsely, at that) by Dene Indians.

My best guess is that he’s let his hair grow out, has a beard, and is living quietly in some black neighborhood, where he won’t stand out much. Are there any really recent pictures? A few months of hair/beard growth, and that guy would be unrecognizable.

That freak obviously did a lot of planning. My guess is that he’s invaded the home of remote retired person(s) who rarely go out, taken them hostage or killed them and is biding his time until he strikes again. It won’t end well.

That freak obviously did a lot of planning. My guess is that he’s invaded the home of remote retired person(s) who rarely go out, taken them hostage or killed them and is biding his time until he strikes again. It won’t end well.

Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
@ darkwords:
Well, he could be anywhere, but if you mean the area around Great Bear Lake, I kind of doubt it. A big black guy like him would stick out like a sore thumb in an area mostly inhabited (and sparsely, at that) by Dene Indians.
My best guess is that he’s let his hair grow out, has a beard, and is living quietly in some black neighborhood, where he won’t stand out much. Are there any really recent pictures? A few months of hair/beard growth, and that guy would be unrecognizable.

the guy could be anywhere..that’s why the head poos will try and figure him out…what his problem is, his bias, his habits, his abilities and limitations…after all that the feds will go out and gun down 281 Dornans in a colored truck

Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
Great Bear Lake, Northwest Territories? Or are you talking about some other place?
Big Bear CA, in the San Bernardino mountains.

Yeah, I know where that is. Darkwords was suggesting he could have gone anywhere, even Great Bear lake in Canada. He has had time enough to make such a journey, but he would have a hard time blending in up there.

Here is an interesting story about a famed manhunt in that part of the country back in 1927. To this day, nobody knows who the guy really was.

He could also be hiding with other ex-cops that aren’t as crazy as he, but have a beef with the LAPD. I’m sure if I thought of this the detectives are already on this angle.

Same thought occurred to me, and you know there are a lot of Ex-LAPD cops with Axes to grind against the LAPD. Plus, as you and I both know, San Bernardino County is fricking huge, very low population density, lots and lot’s of seasonal residences where he could hold up for years without any real threat of being discovered.

Macker wrote:
Alberta Oil Peon wrote:
@ darkwords:
Well, he could be anywhere, but if you mean the area around Great Bear Lake, I kind of doubt it. A big black guy like him would stick out like a sore thumb in an area mostly inhabited (and sparsely, at that) by Dene Indians.
My best guess is that he’s let his hair grow out, has a beard, and is living quietly in some black neighborhood, where he won’t stand out much. Are there any really recent pictures? A few months of hair/beard growth, and that guy would be unrecognizable.
Vancouver, perhaps?

a certain possibility, close, big town with lots of minorities

True enough, if he had contacts there and a safe house, pre-arranged. But getting across the border would be risky. I expect his photo is now on the wall at all ports of entry.

song_and_dance_man wrote:
He could also be hiding with other ex-cops that aren’t as crazy as he, but have a beef with the LAPD. I’m sure if I thought of this the detectives are already on this angle.

Same thought occurred to me, and you know there are a lot of Ex-LAPD cops with Axes to grind against the LAPD. Plus, as you and I both know, San Bernardino County is fricking huge, very low population density, lots and lot’s of seasonal residences where he could hold up for years without any real threat of being discovered.

I think hiding in plain view is a plus for him…he could be anywhere but LA is his turf

song_and_dance_man wrote:
He could also be hiding with other ex-cops that aren’t as crazy as he, but have a beef with the LAPD. I’m sure if I thought of this the detectives are already on this angle.

Same thought occurred to me, and you know there are a lot of Ex-LAPD cops with Axes to grind against the LAPD. Plus, as you and I both know, San Bernardino County is fricking huge, very low population density, lots and lot’s of seasonal residences where he could hold up for years without any real threat of being discovered.

BINGO!

And, even the LA sheriff’s I knew thought the LAPD was a corrupt unit on average.

San Bernardino County is fricking huge, very low population density, lots and lot’s of seasonal residences where he could hold up for years without any real threat of being discovered.

It’s the biggest county in CA, IIRC. And on the other side is the huge Mojave desert. And, if he is intent on following the plan of his manifest LA is only an hour away. Well, maybe more with the ever growing traffic.

doriangrey wrote:
song_and_dance_man wrote:
He could also be hiding with other ex-cops that aren’t as crazy as he, but have a beef with the LAPD. I’m sure if I thought of this the detectives are already on this angle.
Same thought occurred to me, and you know there are a lot of Ex-LAPD cops with Axes to grind against the LAPD. Plus, as you and I both know, San Bernardino County is fricking huge, very low population density, lots and lot’s of seasonal residences where he could hold up for years without any real threat of being discovered.

BINGO!
And, even the LA sheriff’s I knew thought the LAPD was a corrupt unit on average.

he would not get trapped in the mountains…too hard to get out of, few options for a split…he’s near the beach somewhere…I can feel it

@ heysoos:
We see all these pictures taken of him when he was in the Navy, or in the LAPD, and he’s clean shaven, and no hair on his head. But are there any known recent pictures, say in the last month or so? Put hair on his head, and maybe a beard, and he’d be tough to recognize. There are black bikers, are there not? He could affect the biker persona pretty easily.

But getting across the border would be risky. I expect his photo is now on the wall at all ports of entry.

Last time I crossed the Border into Mexico it was entirely by accident, I drove across the Otay Mesa Commercial border station crossing, pulled a u turn and drove right back into the US. Getting into Mexico isn’t that difficult, depending on the time of day, you don’t even slow down to under 50 miles per hour. Getting back into the US… Now that’s a whole different story.

@ heysoos:
We see all these pictures taken of him when he was in the Navy, or in the LAPD, and he’s clean shaven, and no hair on his head. But are there any known recent pictures, say in the last month or so? Put hair on his head, and maybe a beard, and he’d be tough to recognize. There are black bikers, are there not? He could affect the biker persona pretty easily.

he could be anybody at this point, depending on his determination and talent…I think LE has to suppose the very worst and work backwards from there

@ heysoos:
We see all these pictures taken of him when he was in the Navy, or in the LAPD, and he’s clean shaven, and no hair on his head. But are there any known recent pictures, say in the last month or so? Put hair on his head, and maybe a beard, and he’d be tough to recognize. There are black bikers, are there not? He could affect the biker persona pretty easily.

doriangrey wrote:
San Bernardino County is fricking huge, very low population density, lots and lot’s of seasonal residences where he could hold up for years without any real threat of being discovered.
It’s the biggest county in CA, IIRC. And on the other side is the huge Mojave desert. And, if he is intent on following the plan of his manifest LA is only an hour away. Well, maybe more with the ever growing traffic.

San Bernardino County is larger than Connecticut, Rhode Island and Vermont all combined. Yea, it’s that big.

So he is stewing now and not running? Is he getting crazier or saner as the seconds tick? Killing people like he did I would think is a threshold. He is not thinking the same anymore. But do sane people really have that deep of a need for revenge? I think i usually only see that in muslims and the insane. People with irrational causes.

Update: this just in – Authorities offer $1 million reward for information leading to arrest of ex-LAPD officer Christopher Dorner

We were hoping to evade coverage of the latest mass distraction du jour, that of the former LAPD officer Chris Dorner who recently went rogue following a three man murder spree and who has vowed to kill again as per his 6,000 word manifesto, but the US government had made it impossible following confirmation
that the search for Dorner is now the first official drone-hunt in US history.

The Express reports:
Yesterday, as a task force of 125 officers, some riding Snowcats in the rugged terrain, continued their search, it was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil.

A senior police source said: “The thermal imaging cameras the drones use may be our only hope of finding him. On the ground, it’s like looking for a needle in a haystack.”
Asked directly if drones have already been deployed, Riverside Police Chief Sergio Diaz, who is jointly leading the task force, said: “We are using all the tools at our disposal.”

The use of drones was later confirmed by Customs and Border Patrol spokesman Ralph DeSio, who revealed agents have been prepared for Dorner to make a dash for the Mexican border since his rampage began.
He said: “This agency has been at the forefront of domestic use of drones by law enforcement. That’s all I can say at the moment.”

And once Dorner is found by remote-control, it will be again up to drones to secure his “elimination.” If for no other reason than to perform a ground test of just how the recently enacted drone-facilitated extermination of US citizens sits with various instances of the US judicial system.

@ yenta-fada:
Well, I don’t have a problem with using drones in an active manhunt to track down a specific evil-doer. This guy, as long as he is on the loose, is almost as much of a threat to innocent citizens as are the LA cops.

Ok, another question. Why is LAPD opening an investigation into his firing?
Does that seems strange to anyone else?

Because they are scared shitless that someone will investigate and find out his assertions are correct. Right now they are making damned sure that the evidence that proves Dorner did not file a false report will never see the light of day.

@ 153 RIX: There are groups of people who get together claim victim status and reinforce their feelings of inferiority. You see a lot of them on twitter that use black/white as the only important adjective in their vocabulary. If they get constipated it’s a form of discrimination beyond their control. Where if they would just accept merit and the free market they would have had Fiber One bars on hand.

@ song_and_dance_man:
If he is in fact out trekking the woods near Big Bear, which I seriously doubt, the FLIR camera on a drone would pick him out. So it would actually be a cheap way of covering hundreds of square miles of wilderness.

It’s a chess game, now. LAPD probably knows the burned-out truck was a ruse, and that he is anyplace but Big Bear, but they will play along with the ruse for two reasons: one, to placate the public in the area who are afraid he really is there, and two, to maybe lull him into thinking they have fallen for the ruse, and he can move more openly in his real hiding place.

@ song_and_dance_man:
If he is in fact out trekking the woods near Big Bear, which I seriously doubt, the FLIR camera on a drone would pick him out. So it would actually be a cheap way of covering hundreds of square miles of wilderness.

It’s a chess game, now. LAPD probably knows the burned-out truck was a ruse, and that he is anyplace but Big Bear, but they will play along with the ruse for two reasons: one, to placate the public in the area who are afraid he really is there, and two, to maybe lull him into thinking they have fallen for the ruse, and he can move more openly in his real hiding place.

@ darkwords:
Twitter went nuts with support for Dorner & compared him to a
heroic Django.
Whatever grievances against the LAPD, this guy is a murderer.
Hell he killed an innocent young couple.
Looking at the Tweets racism is not just reserved for Whites.
Lots of Black racism on display.

@ song_and_dance_man:
If he is in fact out trekking the woods near Big Bear, which I seriously doubt, the FLIR camera on a drone would pick him out. So it would actually be a cheap way of covering hundreds of square miles of wilderness.
It’s a chess game, now. LAPD probably knows the burned-out truck was a ruse, and that he is anyplace but Big Bear, but they will play along with the ruse for two reasons: one, to placate the public in the area who are afraid he really is there, and two, to maybe lull him into thinking they have fallen for the ruse, and he can move more openly in his real hiding place.

While I am certain that there is a fairly good sampling of that, like I have been trying to tell everyone here, do not underestimate the resentment and outright hostility in California towards the cops here. It isn’t just the black people or liberals who are showing that support for Dorner. There are a lot of people here who the cops have royal screwed who are sympathetic to Dorner because the Cops here are such arrogant corrupt pricks.

@ 174 RIX: My rule of thumb is that in the USA there are more white racists than black racists. But in terms of real hatred, ignorance, and intensity of racism black folks outclass the white folks.

I recommend people finding themselves in those thought processes get away from them quickly.

I can see myself the past few years being more prejudice about black people. I just assume that they have assumed victim status and are chock full of racial and social justice nonsense that makes it impossible to talk to them. I am pleasantly surprised often that a lot of black people don’t buy into that crap and want to live by merit and self respect.

The constant inundation by the media in this area can get anyone down and turn them into a victim.

@ yenta-fada:
Well, I don’t have a problem with using drones in an active manhunt to track down a specific evil-doer. This guy, as long as he is on the loose, is almost as much of a threat to innocent citizens as are the LA cops.
Maybe they should be getting Terry Grant on the hunt?

Interesting reference to Terry Grant. I’m more the Downton Abbey viewer, but I’ll tell hubby.
Drones are a very touchy subject. It makes you think that the future is already here. They already have versions of drones that are quite small. There’s a great Michael Crichton book fictionalizing their use. Forget the name at the moment.

RIX wrote:
Lots of Black racism on display.
While I am certain that there is a fairly good sampling of that, like I have been trying to tell everyone here, do not underestimate the resentment and outright hostility in California towards the cops here. It isn’t just the black people or liberals who are showing that support for Dorner. There are a lot of people here who the cops have royal screwed who are sympathetic to Dorner because the Cops here are such arrogant corrupt pricks.

Oh… And one more time just for the record. There is no justification for what Christopher Dorner did or is doing. He is not a hero, and nothing I have said should n any way be construed to suggest that I believe him to be or support his actions.

@ doriangrey:
They’ve been like that since I was in High School. I’ve been hit and man handled by them for no just reason. Just because I was getting high? Here in ABQ the cops are cordial and respectful. Huge change from SoCal.

@ doriangrey:
They’ve been like that since I was in High School. I’ve been hit and man handled by them for no just reason. Just because I was getting high? Here in ABQ the cops are cordial and respectful. Huge change from SoCal.

Oh… And one more time just for the record. There is no justification for what Christopher Dorner did or is doing. He is not a hero, and nothing I have said should n any way be construed to suggest that I believe him to be or support his actions.

I get that, but it does shed light on how he became bitter, vengeful and then murderous.

heysoos wrote:
I respect the cops in ABQ…rare for me
At the jail we are trained to treat the inmates with dignity and empathy. I practice that daily. Badge heavy officers find themselves in the unemployment line.

on the other hand, I’ve not been arrested here in ABQ and don’t intend to

@ doriangrey:
They’ve been like that since I was in High School. I’ve been hit and man handled by them for no just reason. Just because I was getting high? Here in ABQ the cops are cordial and respectful. Huge change from SoCal.

@ 185 doriangrey: I understand. Dorner might have some justifiable causes for being a malcontent, but people should make the effort to shun his homicidal behavior and label him negatively

Absolutely true, but once you have had to have stitches, dental work, or bones set because some cop didn’t like you asking what the probable cause justification for his pulling you over was, well, you might be more than a tad bit inclined to not care as long as the cops are the ones taking it up the ole pooper chute this time.

heysoos wrote:
song_and_dance_man wrote:
@ doriangrey:
They’ve been like that since I was in High School. I’ve been hit and man handled by them for no just reason. Just because I was getting high? Here in ABQ the cops are cordial and respectful. Huge change from SoCal.
I respect the cops in ABQ…rare for me

they are pretty good in NYC too…

Not in the 60’s and 70’s they weren’t. California is like New York City was back then.

@ brookly red:
as a tourist, I can tell you that you can walk up to any cop in Times Square and shoot the breeze with them, unless they are pre occupied…otherwise they are friendly and helpful…NYC cops are okay

@ brookly red:
as a tourist, I can tell you that you can walk up to any cop in Times Square and shoot the breeze with them, unless they are pre occupied…otherwise they are friendly and helpful…NYC cops are okay

Not in the 60′s and 70′s they weren’t. California is like New York City was back then.

heh… I remember the 70’s. Answering machines just came out. I had to spend the night locked up and the detective called up my GF to suggest things would go better for me if she was nice to him… she played him the tape back & I was released before seeing a judge… I actually got thrown out of the jail hose… weird.

@ brookly red:
as a tourist, I can tell you that you can walk up to any cop in Times Square and shoot the breeze with them, unless they are pre occupied…otherwise they are friendly and helpful…NYC cops are okay

@ song_and_dance_man:
Again, I was friends with some LA Co Sheriff type of people and their wives. The sheriffs let, or even facilitated race riots happen in some LA County detention facilities to garner overtimes wages and enrich their own pockets. It was a joke amongst some of them as to when they needed to let the inmates loose to afford a new bobble dohickythingy at the store with OT money.

Not in the 60′s and 70′s they weren’t. California is like New York City was back then.

Right. LA has never had a Rudy since I was there.

that was before Rudy… like someone said upthread there was the Serpico thing and it’s just such a high profile place everyone is watching… the UN, Wall Street, a freakin media hub… you can’t fart here without someone recording it.

yeah my bad… but they actually bounced me like from a club and threw a subway token at me to go home with.

One of my brothers has a similar story. The Highland Park (Dallas) cops were taking him in for public drunkeness. He made some smartass remark and they beat the shit out of him. John just laid down and faked a catatonic state. They dropped him off at the hospital and went away. Bro John laughingly related all this to me through split lips with one eye swollen shut and knots all over his head.

heysoos wrote:
on the other hand, I’ve not been arrested here in ABQ and don’t intend to
the Rio jail is much better, by x10 than Metro. If you happen to get busted hope it is in the north.

I mixed it up with the Rio Rancho cops back during the big blizzard 3-4 years ago…I lost and went to jail..I resisted the cops in court and went down in flames…my sentence was to work for the Pork and Brew gig up there…after a couple of hours I was elevated to security!…that’s how I met Bobby Keys…I’m blessed, no shit

Sigh, was once likewise the only award show I could watch as well, now it’s gotten so ridicules even it is unwatchable.

Yeah, back in the day most of the awards were highlighted or at least recognized. Nowadays it’s about the most popular or outrageous artists. At least those are the ones that appear in the show. Still, I will watch it.

@ song_and_dance_man:
Yep, rather disappointing.
I only heard whispers of LAPD’s corruption. I turned a blind eye, I didn’t want to know.

Most people would simply refuse to believe the depths of the corruption at the LAPD. The Rampart CRASH Unit, murdered 57 people in order to protect their cocaine drug empire, back in the late 80 and early 90′s. LA swept it under the carpet because it came to light at the exact same time as the OJ Simpson murder trial was going public.

I mixed it up with the Rio Rancho cops back during the big blizzard 3-4 years ago…I lost and went to jail..I resisted the cops in court and went down in flames…my sentence was to work for the Pork and Brew gig up there…after a couple of hours I was elevated to security!…that’s how I met Bobby Keys…I’m blessed, no shit

I know almost all the Rio cops. Any info I might get on you is on the down low.//

heysoos wrote:
I mixed it up with the Rio Rancho cops back during the big blizzard 3-4 years ago…I lost and went to jail..I resisted the cops in court and went down in flames…my sentence was to work for the Pork and Brew gig up there…after a couple of hours I was elevated to security!…that’s how I met Bobby Keys…I’m blessed, no shit
I know almost all the Rio cops. Any info I might get on you is on the down low.//

bunch of minor league punks…they goaded me into a confrontation so I grabbed one and butted heads with the kid…assault, boom just like that…two days in jail, charges dropped to obstruction of police orders, whatever that is…after the gig I went to the kid and told him if I ever catch him in the dark, I;m going to beat him senseless…I avoid that town like the plague

@ 11 doriangrey: It’s a Barney Fife, Andy Griffith polarity. This guy is a violent Barney Fife type.
I used to idolize all police officers. My old man who was a lot more wordily told me “don’t to be stupid. Not every cop is going to be a good guy”.
Since then I have interacted with a lot of police(not in ca) and come away thinking of them as professionals under grinding and cold ROE. And though still a few criminals in the ranks, they play better the the general population.

There are a lot of people here who the cops have royal screwed who are sympathetic to Dorner because the Cops here are such arrogant@ doriangrey:

I don’t doubt that. The Chicago PD has abuse issues & you can
wind up seriously dead.

Chicago cops are worse than any outside of an officially totalitarian police state. They’ve got a huge number of out-and-out psychopaths and sadists who get their jollies from playing gestapo. IOW they’d rather have your blood on the floor or the streets, than your money.