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I wouldn't give up much for Kubel. It would take more than I would be willing to give. He isn't very good at all. Chase made him look like he was, but he has been worse less than 1 win over the last 3 years.

The money thing kinda gets me but its also i think he isn't that good offensively anymore don't let Yankee Stadium fool you and even in his younger days he was not a good outfielder.

I mean go look at when he went off the bench those home runs he hit would not go out in most ball parks they just carried because of the jet stream at Yankee Stadium just like Granderson's power numbers would go down away from Yankee Stadium.

Yeah he was awful on the road. This move is not going to help anything.

I wouldn't give up much for Kubel. It would take more than I would be willing to give. He isn't very good at all. Chase made him look like he was, but he has been worse less than 1 win over the last 3 years.

Even though its looking like Upton stays in Arizona he is the most ideal and i would trade a package with Walker for him agree about Kubel i wouldn't give up much for him.

Let's just chill. The clubhouse and lineup clearly was lacking veteran leadership and veteran bats to take the pressure off the young guys last season. Bay and Ibanez are about as professional as it gets and quality role models. My guess is Bay doesn't even make the team. The Mariners roster is better today than it was last season. We're gonna be alright.

i like the optimism but adding morales, and subtracting a 14 game, 200inning pitcher, signing bay, ibanez, bonderman, im not sure if our roster is better yet.

we still heavily rely on our young players getting better.

we need a pitcher to replace vargan and another hitter which i dont think we'll acquire.

Yea i really didn't think we were going to go after him anyways with our pick not being protected and Swisher being 32 years old he is a pretty good player but i don't think he would have Hamilton type production warranting it.

It would be different if we were ready to win now then Swisher would have been a nice piece.