Weren't they selling the kinect bundle at a $100 or $50 premuim? Maybe they will be priced the same. PS4 gets more expensive components, XBone gets the kinect.

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There's really not much to it. You can read the article in the headline, lots of fluff.

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"Yes, you can turn the system completely off," the Microsoft rep said. "This would use no power and turn everything off. We’ll share more details about how it all works later." I believe this powering off involves the aforementioned power button.

That sounds to me like you need to completely shut the system down in order for kinect to stop listening. So much for the quick resume functionality in that case. Again, more questions than answers.

I'm sure there will be tons of privacy controls. I doubt MS would dare to spy on you, people closely watching their internet traffic would expose that immediately. I'm sure you'll be able to start the system, navigate the menus, do everything with a controller.....basically pretend the kinect doesn't exist, and you'd probably never know it.

And that's why it's so irritating that it'll be packed in every box, and needs to be connected in order for the Xbox to function at all. The packing in I can at least see where they're coming from - they want to build a large userbase for kinect from the start. You couldn't buy an NES without a zapper and ROB at the start either. But if ROB broke, your NES was fine. And a very large and heavy looking camera dangling from the top of a flat screen....you know those are going down all the time.

I think eventually they're going to walk back on the required aspect of it. Its going to cause too many issues for too many people, even if its just perception. They're going to need to drop the price of this console over it's life to compete, and that's the first obvious thing to go, an easy $100 or more they can shave off. The dashboard will evolve every year - if the initial dash requires kinect, next year's can be a different story.

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That sounds to me like you need to completely shut the system down in order for kinect to stop listening. So much for the quick resume functionality in that case. Again, more questions than answers.

I'm sure there will be tons of privacy controls. I doubt MS would dare to spy on you, people closely watching their internet traffic would expose that immediately. I'm sure you'll be able to start the system, navigate the menus, do everything with a controller.....basically pretend the kinect doesn't exist, and you'd probably never know it.

And that's why it's so irritating that it'll be packed in every box, and needs to be connected in order for the Xbox to function at all. The packing in I can at least see where they're coming from - they want to build a large userbase for kinect from the start. You couldn't buy an NES without a zapper and ROB at the start either. But if ROB broke, your NES was fine. And a very large and heavy looking camera dangling from the top of a flat screen....you know those are going down all the time.

I think eventually they're going to walk back on the required aspect of it. Its going to cause too many issues for too many people, even if its just perception. They're going to need to drop the price of this console over it's life to compete, and that's the first obvious thing to go, an easy $100 or more they can shave off. The dashboard will evolve every year - if the initial dash requires kinect, next year's can be a different story.

I would expect a kinect-less version for the cheapos to buy. Just like they had versions with no hard drive. They want to make it required, but it really isn't. All they need to do is update software.

Nah brah, we aren't one person with 3 accounts because obviously that is against AVS ToS. Ever heard a clan? Yeah thats us.........

Only a "Blazing" moron would do something against the AVS ToS like that! I used to run with the T-Dubs back in the day.. I would like to join the Chalupas, but I am afraid I dont have mad COD skillz... Problem?

Only a "Blazing" moron would do something against the AVS ToS like that! I used to run with the T-Dubs back in the day.. I would like to join the Chalupas, but I am afraid I dont have mad COD skillz... Problem?

Only a "Blazing" moron would do something against the AVS ToS like that! I used to run with the T-Dubs back in the day.. I would like to join the Chalupas, but I am afraid I dont have mad COD skillz... Problem?

I have like nunchuk skillz, bow hunting skillz, computer hacking skillz... So can I join your clan? Handle is "Napoleondynamite".

Only a "Blazing" moron would do something against the AVS ToS like that! I used to run with the T-Dubs back in the day.. I would like to join the Chalupas, but I am afraid I dont have mad COD skillz... Problem?

Back on topic, I mentioned earlier my concerns over the ONE being HDMI only. I was browsing around my local Comp USA / Tiger Direct the other day and I saw that they are selling HDMI to component converters for about $80. Not sure what kind of video lag that might introduce, but I suppose I can give it a try if there is no other option for the ONE.