his body isnt on azeroth... that was a weakened avatar. its kinda like a shortcut way to be summoned to a planet

If I understand it correctly, he gimped himself to be able to go through the portal, but he's still himself. Just a lesser version. Surely there must be some kind of corpse/part of a skeleton left behind? Otherwise it should be called the Fall/End of Sargeras and not the "Tomb", imo :s

If I understand it correctly, he gimped himself to be able to go through the portal, but he's still himself. Just a lesser version. Surely there must be some kind of corpse/part of a skeleton left behind? Otherwise it should be called the Fall/End of Sargeras and not the "Tomb", imo :s

no when they summoned him they only summoned his mind. (kinda like how when you kill demons on azeroth unless their fully summoned their mind just goes back to the twisting nether)

the body of his avatar was eaten by demons apparently thats why when guldan went inside it he was then eaten by the demons that were there

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"so what do we do?" "well jack, you stand there and say 'gee rocket raccoon I'm so glad you brought that Unfeasibly large cannon with you..' and i go like this BRAKKA BRAKKA BRAKKA" - Rocket Raccoon

Here is another What-If, what if the WE isn't us. What if the WE is the Burning Legion and they want to come back to Azeroth to the Tomb of Sargeras to get the things they need to rebuild Sargeras the fallen Titan ? Maybe if they rebuild his body, his spirit will come back to it. The Burning legion hasn't been to successful as of late, so they need the boss to come back.

Reading about the tomb of Sargeras it contains the remains of his magically generated avatar that was defeated by Aegwynn.

In the lore of war of the ancients Sargeras "ceased to be" in a physical sense when the portal collapsed as he stepped through and he has been disembodied ever since.

To have Sargeras rebuilt with a new titan body and flung back into the universe as head of the legion would be truly awesome.

Reading about the tomb of Sargeras it contains the remains of his magically generated avatar that was defeated by Aegwynn.

In the lore of war of the ancients Sargeras "ceased to be" in a physical sense when the portal collapsed as he stepped through and he has been disembodied ever since.

To have Sargeras rebuilt with a new titan body and flung back into the universe as head of the legion would be truly awesome.

Yep, at the end of expansion we get a new villain instead of killing one. Having the Dreadlords orchestrate things like in WC III. I still think the magical artifacts of his avatar could be used to build and/or call his spirit to his body. What ever the case ... I want the broken isles zone.

So what if .... The voices that came through Wrathion was the voice of N'goth or an old god.
So the we are the old gods and their servants. So the twilight hammer's cult, instectoid races,
and faceless ones rebuilding Sargeras' body or his avatar. They want him back on Azeroth to
cause chaos because they love it and/or it would make it easier for them to take over after
he was done with it. Sort of the enemy of my enemy is friend type deal.
Old gods + Burning legion = WIN

So what if .... The voices that came through Wrathion was the voice of N'goth or an old god.
So the we are the old gods and their servants. So the twilight hammer's cult, instectoid races,
and faceless ones rebuilding Sargeras' body or his avatar. They want him back on Azeroth to
cause chaos because they love it and/or it would make it easier for them to take over after
he was done with it. Sort of the enemy of my enemy is friend type deal.
Old gods + Burning legion = WIN

Yeah that sounds very plausible. In the WoTA trilogy it was made pretty clear that the Old gods wanted Sargeras to show up so that he shatters their prison. That´s why they corrupted both Neltharion (because of the disc) and Azshara.

It was also made clear that Sargeras would not stand any chance against the unleashed Old gods. That´s why that was a pretty safe plan for the Old gods.

They wanted Azshara to open a portal for the Legion and Sargeras so that the Legion can release them.

Maybe they want that now too. You know that vision Wrathion saw could be an Old God that whispers to him like they already did with his dad Neltharion.

According to the books Sargeras body was shattered after the destruction of the Well and so maybe this "last titan" Wrathion tells us about is Sargeras and the Old gods really want to reconstruct his body or something.

Kinda wondering what the mogu were sent to Pandaria for, since Wrathion suggests it was a specific task. Intruiging.

Originally Posted by Rockwood

So what if .... The voices that came through Wrathion was the voice of N'goth or an old god.
So the we are the old gods and their servants. So the twilight hammer's cult, instectoid races,
and faceless ones rebuilding Sargeras' body or his avatar. They want him back on Azeroth to
cause chaos because they love it and/or it would make it easier for them to take over after
he was done with it. Sort of the enemy of my enemy is friend type deal.
Old gods + Burning legion = WIN

Eh, I doubt Sargeras and the Old Gods have the same goals in mind. Sargeras seems to want to destroy worlds, while the Old Gods want to corrupt and rule them.

Kinda figuring Sargeras went bad partly because he figured the titans weren't up to the challenge of stopping the Old Gods.

Kinda wondering what the mogu were sent to Pandaria for, since Wrathion suggests it was a specific task. Intruiging.

Eh, I doubt Sargeras and the Old Gods have the same goals in mind. Sargeras seems to want to destroy worlds, while the Old Gods want to corrupt and rule them.

Kinda figuring Sargeras went bad partly because he figured the titans weren't up to the challenge of stopping the Old Gods.

As I wrote above the Old gods do have similar goals than Sargeras. Of course Sargeras wants to destroy Azeroth but the Old gods want that too so that they are released. Sargeras would not stand any chance against the unleashed Old gods.

As I wrote above the Old gods do have similar goals than Sargeras. Of course Sargeras wants to destroy Azeroth but the Old gods want that too so that they are released. Sargeras would not stand any chance against the unleashed Old gods.

Yeah, but Sargeras tends to leave planets completely lifeless in his wake. Whereas whenever the Old Gods are in charge of Azeroth, either as they were in the beginning or in some potential future post-Cataclysm, the world's full of life, it just happens to be completely corrupt and under their influence.

Makes the greater cosmic struggle more interesting that way - the titans want order, the Old Gods want chaos, and the burning legion want annihilation.

Yeah, but Sargeras tends to leave planets completely lifeless in his wake. Whereas whenever the Old Gods are in charge of Azeroth, either as they were in the beginning or in some potential future post-Cataclysm, the world's full of life, it just happens to be completely corrupt and under their influence.

Makes the greater cosmic struggle more interesting that way - the titans want order, the Old Gods want chaos, and the burning legion want annihilation.

Yeah it has never been mentioned in-game and in the WoTA books what would happen if Sargeras succeeded and released the Old gods. He tends to completely annihilate planets.

I really don't know but it seems like he would not stand any chance against them.

Yeah it has never been mentioned in-game and in the WoTA books what would happen if Sargeras succeeded and released the Old gods. He tends to completely annihilate planets.

I really don't know but it seems like he would not stand any chance against them.

The legion and Sargeras are not in cahoots, in war of the ancients the Old gods basically try to redirect Sargeras summoning portal to their prison so they can be freed.

It is mentioned that when they are freed the combined might of all the old gods would destroy Sargeras and his legion. Not sure if that is true or if the old gods are just being overconfident like all villains.

The legion and Sargeras are not in cahoots, in war of the ancients the Old gods basically try to redirect Sargeras summoning portal to their prison so they can be freed.

It is mentioned that when they are freed the combined might of all the old gods would destroy Sargeras and his legion. Not sure if that is true or if the old gods are just being overconfident like all villains.

Nah they are definitely not overconfident there. I mean some quests in Northrend showed us that Yogg-saron is almost as big as the entire continent northrend. Let´s image N´zoth, Yogg-saron, C´thun and the other unmentioned Old gods (presumably a total of 5).

They would be so big and mighty that Sargeras would flee or beg for mercy. Many titans were needed to fight the Old gods and they were no way less powerful than Sargeras (of course he was the titan champion).

After all Sargeras is "just" a single Titan and would not stand a chance against the freed Old gods ... never ever.

Nah they are definitely not overconfident there. I mean some quests in Northrend showed us that Yogg-saron is almost as big as the entire continent northrend. Let´s image N´zoth, Yogg-saron, C´thun and the other unmentioned Old gods (presumably a total of 5).

They would be so big and mighty that Sargeras would flee or beg for mercy. Many titans were needed to fight the Old gods and they were no way less powerful than Sargeras (of course he was the titan champion).

After all Sargeras is "just" a single Titan and would not stand a chance against the freed Old gods ... never ever.

Also, I would think Sargeras would be a bit thankful for the Old gods reconstructing his body.
So he wouldn't mind shattering their prisons and giving the azeroth as his thank you present to them.

So Old gods trying to rebuild a HUGE Titan body some where.
Who is up for some green flaming tentacles ?