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Hedge fund jobs are, contrary to popular belief, not terribly difficult to get. Entry-level HFs don't pay the millions per year that HFMs make, but they're competitive with IB and have shorter hours. Your school matters a lot less than in IB but your major and GPA matter more; a 4.0 math major from Michigan is going to beat a 3.4 econ major from Harvard.

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i don't know if a math major will do well. The quant funds want PhDs, not undergrads. They don't need that many analysts either. A debt fund would require a lot more business sense that strict numbers brilliance. Most math geeks would flame in these jobs (doesn't mean that those that are good at both numbers and the other required skills won't be in high demand...)

What is your authority to post on this subject anyway? do you work in the field?

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I know of a couple people who started hedge funds and about the general pool from which they hired. I do not work at an HF right now but I've considered the career.

Most of the mathematics used at such places can be learned at the undergrad level, applied side. The draw of the PhD is the indicator: general intelligence. The degree itself doesn't matter, and those who can establish sufficient intelligence otherwise are usually considered admissable.

I didn't, of course, say that the hypothetical 4.0 math major from Mich would be a walk-on for the job, but only that he'd have a better shot than the Harvard econ kid, who might have an edge in IB.

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I am only at intern at a Dallas hedge fund right now, but my boss suggested that even though there a few analysts/traders straight out of undergrad that work here, he would prefer me to do a 2 year stint at an IB and then they would take me back, situation permitting. I have kind of accepted my faith of "having" to do Investment banking, though i am looking forward to it, but not the hours. Actually, since I do a lot of shit for numerous departments here, I kinda got used to working long hours. But nevertheless I am currently loving the atmosphere of hedge funds and the people that I work with.

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the two large hedge funds that hire directly out of undergrad are DE shaw and Citadel.

There are tons of "less public" hedge funds in the CT and NYC area that hire out of undergrad. Usually you need to seek them out and show initiative and graduate from a top math school (princeton, MIT, etc)

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I work in Prime Brokerage (we service Hedge Funds) and all of the "entry level" jobs I've come across were for young people a few years out of college, but with no MBA. Sounds like a lot of the bigger funds will hire out of undergrad, but from their perspective, a 2-year analyst stint at a BB means you can handle the pressure...

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What are your goals for 2017?Mornin' Monkeys,
@Eddie Braverman" [recently posted](http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/use-thanksgiving-to-set-2017-goals) how he uses the Thanksgiving weekend to set his goals and provided the community with a few tools for categorizing, qualifying and actualizing annual...

What are your goals for 2017?Mornin' Monkeys,
@Eddie Braverman recently posted how he uses the Thanksgiving weekend to set his goals and provided the community with a few tools for categorizing, qualifying and actualizing annual...

Uncle Eddie's Ponderous Podcast PlaylistI listen to a lot of podcasts. I've almost always got one on in the background while I'm working (unless I really need to concentrate, in which case I use brain.fm). I'm amazed at how podcasts have...

In Defense of UnhappinessAs with many of you, I had the chance to spend some time with relatives over the Thanksgiving holiday. It was average, to be honest. It's always good to see loved ones, but it is a balance between...

Non-Target to Bain/BCG InternHey WSO,
Since this site has been instrumental in helping me break into Consulting from a non-target, I wanted to share my experience with the community. Hopefully this post will be helpful to...

What Shows do you watch?I know that this topic has been posted on before; but, due to things constantly changing, I figured it would be good to ask again. With the semester about to end, I'm going to have some free time to...

Freshman PWM BB Internship - Worth It?I am coming from a Target, but meaningful Freshman internships are hard to come by for anyone. I would like to get an internship this summer just so I get some experience on my resume and to show my...

GS IMD vs HL IBD vs JP IMDHello friends,
I'm a junior at an ultra non-target.
Say I have offers at GS IMD in NYC, JPM IMD in Miami Beach, or IBD with Houlihan in Texas.
Which would you choose?

3 Questions About Education after CollegeHello,
As a math/econ double at a non-target, I have some questions about education after graduation.
Prevalence of Economics PhD candidates in investment banking? - I am hoping to break into...