Comments on: Why So Blue?http://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/
a radical newsletter in the struggle for peace and social justiceSat, 27 Sep 2014 17:28:19 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=4.1.1By: Susanhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-21652
Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:56:13 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-21652There is a huge difference between real capitalism, and the oligarchies (e.g., central banks, Big Corporations, corrupt meddling easily bribed governments) that rule the world now.
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Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:52:45 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16219First and foremost…when the hell have humans not wanted to leave this sphere for a greater harmony? Yes it is “shocking” that these statistics have come forth but the fact that anyone puts merit in any statistic allowed to the media is sad. What this, in the end, will make a case for is MORE pharm based lovin’…aggressive marketing campaigns to target this “high risk” group. As a “youth” (a wee 34 next week) I don’t have any buying power…I am not mezmerized by the latest hollywood debacle….that is the whole point of this sort of scare info…I swear to Christ you will now see an upsurge of ads for middle aged depression drugs on your idiot box because the young do not have the money to buy medicine, we can’t afford fucking health insurance. So who is it for, the people who do have some semblance of insurance.

Remember this…you only hear what they want to be heard and if you think you can change that I have some Viagra to sell you.

]]>By: hphttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16174
Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:45:10 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16174Yes Lloyd. It scrolls all the way up to where you asked me a smart ass question in response to my suggesting depression may be a result of lack of love.
Your question obviously and arrogantly intended to show your superior intelligence by referencing some psycho-social hack named Klein and his ridiculous phrase which I don’t believe anyone but you has ever heard of. At least not anyone here. Not the first time your arrogance has been displayed and deemed unacceptable.
Then I scroll down a little further and see another insult, this one of a suggestive pornographic nature. Very impressive to reduce me to an inferior.
Then I scroll down to where, in your vanity, you assume I’m referring to you when speaking of puffed up egoist materialist fakers, when actually I’m once again referring to the hack Klein.
And then, lastly but not leastly, the lame “does your scroll work?”
Yes it does, Lloyd. Yes it does.
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Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:55:53 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16171does your scroll work, hp?
]]>By: hphttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16161
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:41:45 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16161Lloyd, is it perhaps a tad vain to assume I was speaking of you?
How’s that?
]]>By: Lloyd Rowseyhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16157
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:35:45 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16157truth + wisdom @ DV = dead-end.
]]>By: Lloyd Rowseyhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16156
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:30:25 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16156Nor have I ever been paid to teach. Maybe you could just express my thought in fewer words, hp.
]]>By: Lloyd Rowseyhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16155
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:26:02 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16155I’ve may have earned $25 for my writing once, but it was so long ago I don’t recall. So if the shoe fits, wear it. Is that non-high falutin enough for you?
]]>By: hphttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16152
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:59:21 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16152Consequential opposition to shock capitalism.
Sounds like oral ejaculation to me.
A typical bullshit high falutin intellectually divined concept which is marvelous in the class room but fails miserably in the real world. As usual.
Just how many good and positive, wonderous changes have resulted from this ‘consequential opposition to shock capitalism?’
I mean besides the puffed up false egos and any money to be made for the ejaculator of such an inspired revelation.
I’ll offer a mentally masturbated guess: NONE.
]]>By: Lloyd Rowseyhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16149
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:07:22 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16149CONSEQUENTIAL OPPOSTION to Shock Capitalism, hp. That’s defined as changing things which result from “Shock Capitalism” and not just mental masturbating with words on the internet.
]]>By: hphttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16146
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:15:38 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16146Shock capitalism based on love…
Could that be defined as giving money to the poor, sick and hungry of ones own free will?
]]>By: George Thompsonhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16142
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:41:24 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16142What it takes to make this a better country and world is violence by the vast majority against the minority that are so skillful at using propaganda and outright lies to divide that majority against itself. Those of us that want to do what is best for the majority, the normal survival instinct of every known species on the planet, must do whatever we have to to stop greedy, hyper-capitalist bastards from hoarding everything for themselves and destroying the environment we need for survival. What happened to their survival instinct? There is something genetically defunct in these people that want everything for themselves and nothing for everyone else at all costs. I don’t think they deserve to live because their life represents our death. It’s time people stepped out of the shadows and the election booths and picked up a club, a taser, a gun, a rocket launcher or an M16. We waited this long through consumerist distraction and wishful thinking for it to get this bad and now it’s going to take a paroxysm to get us back where we were, which wasn’t even close to perfect either by the way but at least was manageably decadent. Who says violence never solves anything? Republicans and corporate politicians say that because they are the ones in small numbers. We can no longer afford to sit back while they chip away us with the military, the fascist police state, the prison industrial complex, poisonous food, fluorinated water, chemtrails, carcinogenic drugs from Big Pharma and the like. And one final point, to all those that think I just went overboard and that I’m a crazy conspiracy theorist, I hope you are the first to go. If nothing was ever a conspiracy 9/11 would never have happened and the official story would be physically possible. Put that in your grits and eat it!!!
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Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:38:06 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16141You got any examples of consequential opposition to what Klein calls Shock Capitalism based on love, hp?
]]>By: hphttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16137
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:25:42 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16137Well there’s depression and then there’s DEPRESSION.
“No one loves me but my mama, and she could be jivin me too.”
I believe the answer lies in love. Specifically the lack of…
]]>By: Lloyd Rowseyhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16132
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:01:52 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16132I suggest “self-loathing” as a test-self-description for any posters whose downs (which I admit are partly socially induced) may have produced a “suicidal” state. What I believe the Desk Guide used to refer to as “diminished self-esteem.”
]]>By: Lloyd Rowseyhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16129
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:54:47 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16129Esactly, hp. I posted before reading your last.
]]>By: Lloyd Rowseyhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16128
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 17:53:42 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16128D.R. I do see what you mean, and I tried to anticipate it by observing that IF a person is not so impaired as to be suicidal, social factors operate.

Two caveats: first, there is the enormous literature about villagers in Africa in and around the eyes of the storms of genocide who live in grace and happiness. Second, Emil Durkheim wrote a long time ago, and of course social factors MUST be relevant. But if you think drug testing is slippery, try asking people about their “depressions” their “radicalness” etc, etc. Don’t thake this wrong, but you can’t even ask WOMEN such questions in Mr. Macho Amerika.

]]>By: HRhttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16069
Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:16:23 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16069HP, I think the bottom line here is the method used to arrive at the figure. Were all the individuals counted actually Vietnam vets? Studies in which those counted are verified as vets, using their military record as proof, reach quite a different conclusion: that suicide rates for vets are the same as for non-vet contemporaries. Same for homelessness, criminal activity, alcohol and other drug addiction, and all the other myths that have been hung on those guys.
]]>By: hphttp://dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16067
Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:37:01 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16067I know it’s a tenuous area regarding statistics and proof. Very tenuous.
Reminds me of deaths due to alcoholism which are also basically unprovable, though suspiciously relegated to ‘accidents’ for the most part.
Bottom line is whether those men are dead, or not.
As far as universally accepted, I can’t think of anything short of 1+1=2 which is universally accepted.
I know a lot of vietnam vets too, and knew, past tense, many more.
Many of them were and are indeed alcoholics, drug addicts and ‘fringe’ types, like myself.
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Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:19:03 +0000http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/03/why-so-blue/#comment-16064HP, I stand by my statement. Do some more research regarding the 150,000 figure. It’s not universally accepted. My experience with many vets over the course of my working life suggests that the stereotypes are all hogwash, created by the right years after the war ended and accepted by the pseudoprogressives calling themselves liberals.
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