The r\/WoW subreddit has started a series of Community Class Feedback threads, featuring the opinions of theorycrafting representatives of all classes! Today, the threads for Death Knights, Demon Hunters and Druids were released. Other classes will be released through the week, as per their schedule below. Wowhead has done a similar endeavor during the 8.0 Pre-Patch, collaborating with theorycrafting representatives to get their opinions on how their classes and specializations were changed from Legion to Battle for Azeroth!\r\rThe Monk thread was written by Peak of Serenity (Discord link), the premier Monk community.\rGarg, who contributed for the Mistweaver post, is a community leader for Peak of Serenity, our Mistweaver Monk Guide Writer, and also contributed to our 8.0 Mistweaver Community Opinions.\rBabylonius, the thread poster, is a community leader for Peak of Serenity, our Windwalker Monk Guide Writer, and also contributed to our 8.0 Windwalker Community Opinions.\r\rThe Paladin thread was written by Hammer of Wrath, the Paladin class discord.\rPelinal, part of the team who wrote the Holy post, is our Holy Paladin Guide Writer. Dreamguard and Scoffs also participated in our 8.0 Holy Community Opinions.\rLiminara\/GrayHound, part of the team who wrote the Protection post, is a moderator on Hammer of Wrath and our Protection Paladin Guide Writer. Woliance also participated in our 8.0 Protection Community Opinions.\rSkeletor, part of the team who wrote the Retribution post, participated in our 8.0 Retribution Community Opinions. \r\rThe Priest thread was written by Warcraft Priests (Discord Link), the premier Priest community.\rDjriff, the thread poster, is our Shadow Priest Guide Writer and participated in our 8.0 Shadow Community Opinions. \r\rThe Shaman thread was written by Earthshrine, the Shaman class discord, with contributions from Ancestral Guidance, the Restoration Shaman discord.\rThe team from Storm, Earth and Lava, who wrote the Elemental post, also contributed to our 8.0 Elemental Community Opinions. Gistwiki, part of the SEL team, is our Elemental Shaman Guide Writer.\rWordup, who participated in the Enhancement post, is our Enhancement Shaman Guide Writer. Rusah, who made the Enhancement post, is the SimC dev responsible for the Enhancement Shaman module. Both also participated in our 8.0 Enhancement Community Opinions.\r\r\rGreetings fellow Heroes of Azeroth!,\rIt's day 2 of our week-long Community Feedback Megathread series on Class\/Spec design.\r\rUp today are the Paladin, Shaman, Monk, and Priest threads. Each class should post around 10am Pacific, however the Shaman thread will be posted a little later due to time-zones.\r\rOur new schedule is as follows:\rMonday: Death Knight, Druid, and Demon Hunter.\rWednesday: Paladin, Shaman, Monk, and Priest.\rFriday: Warrior, Hunter, Rogue, Mage, and Warlock.\r\rWe will link to each thread here when as they go live around 10am Pacific time. We look forward to what the Death Knight, Druid, and Demon Hunter communities have in store for us today.\r\rMonk Megathread\rPaladin Megathread\rPriest Megathread\rShaman Megathread\r\rDruid Megathread\rDemon Hunter Megathread\rDeath Knight Megathread \r\r\rDid you enjoy this news article? Receive instant notifications when the latest news is published through the Wowhead Discord Webhook and join the community with Wowhead's Discord Server, Twitter, and Facebook.

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Commentaire de sbensen

on 2018-10-18T01:34:40-05:00

Priest? Wahhhh! \ud83d\ude06 Let the games begin!

Commentaire de Antracin

on 2018-10-18T02:08:21-05:00

I do hope that this deep silence about shadow priests is caused by Blizzard's hard work to fix our problems. They communicate nothing towards us and we didn't receive any serious changes. Blizzard, what's up with your step-child shadow priest?

Commentaire de Dejo93

on 2018-10-18T04:10:19-05:00

I really hope they fix shamans, especially Enhancement.

Commentaire de Terrorshark

on 2018-10-18T04:18:00-05:00

I do hope that this deep silence about shadow priests is caused by Blizzard's hard work to fix our problems. They communicate nothing towards us and we didn't receive any serious changes. Blizzard, what's up with your step-child shadow priest?

>Silence with Blizzard means they're working hard to fix things.

Ohh you sweet summer child.

Commentaire de Gangme

on 2018-10-18T05:02:49-05:00

My considerations: let's start with the talk of Monk, it is the cancer class of this game, with his mobility the blizzard had to change the style of game play, adapting many classes with new spells, the blizzard should remove all the mobility in the game, classes like warlock-shadow priest(caster) are unplayable. Priest disc together with the holy paladin and the shaman restoration are healer classes that make a dps absurd, 1v1 in the arena and very likely that if you're dps you can die. this happens because the blizzard based that the healers doing damage to care them at the same time, the consumption of mana with the spell of damage in the healer classes should be double compared to the dps, but it is not so, the healer damage spell should at least be compared to that of a dps, but it's not like that. In arena see priest disci more that do dps that has healing (purge spam). Paladin holy that seem Paladin ret, like a melee,about all buffs Paladin for some reason are undispell (but this is strange because paladins only use buff magic). shaman rest that spam purge (with talent of the damage) and flow at least 10 lava burst instant in arena, seeing this is ridiculous. The problem of this game are the talents of choice, too much mobility, too many spells of damage reduction, off healing exaggerated to the dps and in turn the dps of exaggerated healers. hybrid class with off spec from dps \/ healer \/ guardian overly op. The classes are not balanced at all, there are classes that have everything to counter melee or caster and classes that have nothing. the combos that you find in arena are always the same, healer with melee stop. Double dps in the arena and hard to find high rating too, you can play double melee and it is easier to raise rating compared to 2 dps caster(to be specified caster spell not spam spell). the blizzard will have so much to work before they open the classics. I wish the blizzard a good job

Commentaire de Ithline

on 2018-10-18T05:50:06-05:00

My considerations: let's start with the talk of Monk, it is the cancer class of this game, with his mobility the blizzard had to change the style of game play, adapting many classes with new spells, the blizzard should remove all the mobility in the game, classes like warlock-shadow priest(caster) are unplayable. Priest disc together with the holy paladin and the shaman restoration are healer classes that make a dps absurd, 1v1 in the arena and very likely that if you're dps you can die. this happens because the blizzard based that the healers doing damage to care them at the same time, the consumption of mana with the spell of damage in the healer classes should be double compared to the dps, but it is not so, the healer damage spell should at least be compared to that of a dps, but it's not like that. In arena see priest disci more that do dps that has healing (purge spam). Paladin holy that seem Paladin ret, like a melee,about all buffs Paladin for some reason are undispell (but this is strange because paladins only use buff magic). shaman rest that spam purge (with talent of the damage) and flow at least 10 lava burst instant in arena, seeing this is ridiculous. The problem of this game are the talents of choice, too much mobility, too many spells of damage reduction, off healing exaggerated to the dps and in turn the dps of exaggerated healers. hybrid class with off spec from dps \/ healer \/ guardian overly op. The classes are not balanced at all, there are classes that have everything to counter melee or caster and classes that have nothing. the combos that you find in arena are always the same, healer with melee stop. Double dps in the arena and hard to find high rating too, you can play double melee and it is easier to raise rating compared to 2 dps caster(to be specified caster spell not spam spell). the blizzard will have so much to work before they open the classics. I wish the blizzard a good job\r\rResto shamans do not have comparable dmg to hpala\/disc\/MW. I completely agree, that healers dmg should be brought down by a lot. they should never do more dmg than dps. Same with monk mobility. 2s is just filled with MW monks\/discs paired with rogues. It is just as playing against double dps but one of them can do absurd healing.

Commentaire de Sydbarrett81

on 2018-10-18T05:55:27-05:00

My considerations: let's start with the talk of Monk, it is the cancer class of this game, with his mobility the blizzard had to change the style of game play, adapting many classes with new spells, the blizzard should remove all the mobility in the game, classes like warlock-shadow priest(caster) are unplayable. Priest disc together with the holy paladin and the shaman restoration are healer classes that make a dps absurd, 1v1 in the arena and very likely that if you're dps you can die. this happens because the blizzard based that the healers doing damage to care them at the same time, the consumption of mana with the spell of damage in the healer classes should be double compared to the dps, but it is not so, the healer damage spell should at least be compared to that of a dps, but it's not like that. In arena see priest disci more that do dps that has healing (purge spam). Paladin holy that seem Paladin ret, like a melee,about all buffs Paladin for some reason are undispell (but this is strange because paladins only use buff magic). shaman rest that spam purge (with talent of the damage) and flow at least 10 lava burst instant in arena, seeing this is ridiculous. The problem of this game are the talents of choice, too much mobility, too many spells of damage reduction, off healing exaggerated to the dps and in turn the dps of exaggerated healers. hybrid class with off spec from dps \/ healer \/ guardian overly op. The classes are not balanced at all, there are classes that have everything to counter melee or caster and classes that have nothing. the combos that you find in arena are always the same, healer with melee stop. Double dps in the arena and hard to find high rating too, you can play double melee and it is easier to raise rating compared to 2 dps caster(to be specified caster spell not spam spell). the blizzard will have so much to work before they open the classics. I wish the blizzard a good job\r\rWall of text crit for 9000 aids

Commentaire de Chewarette

on 2018-10-18T06:38:40-05:00

Shadow Priest's insanity shall become a build\/spend resource, not a build\/wait-for-it-to-deplete kind of stuff. Give us two or three spenders (one single target - Devouring Plague-like, one AoE (Void eruption), one utility (a Shadow Covenant-like ?)), remove Voidform or make it a on-use offensive cooldown, a small talent reshuffling and we're kinda set to go.\r\rI feel like Shadow Priest would be great with some kind of "insanity micro-management". Like, Insanity being a straight bar from 0 to 1000, you deal increased damage depending on your current insanity (500 = +25%), with a threshold to never attain (750 for example). If you go beyond, you're actually becoming "insane", dealing maybe extra-damage but entirely depleting your insanity. That could be used as a "at will" cooldown, you try to maximize your dps by remaining at 700-750 insanity, but you have the possibility to enter into a burst phase whenever needed (could be used as Execute phase too).\r\rThat would be imo more interesting. A more manageable resource, some nice interactions with talents (Surrender to Madness could extend the duration of the >750 phase).\r\rEven thematically. I've never understood why the ultimate goal of Shadow Priests was to ... become insane and remain insane as long as possible ? We should be trying to use the power of the Shadows, but still trying to remain sane. \rReaching max insanity should just Mind-Control your character and\/or kill you.

Commentaire de prophet001

on 2018-10-18T08:24:37-05:00

I really don't want to hear anything that place has to say.\r\rThey would eat their own if they could find mates.

Commentaire de Ghrimrokkr

on 2018-10-18T09:28:56-05:00

\rEven thematically. I've never understood why the ultimate goal of Shadow Priests was to ... become insane and remain insane as long as possible ? We should be trying to use the power of the Shadows, but still trying to remain sane. \rReaching max insanity should just Mind-Control your character and\/or kill you.\r\rYes of course, sure... or maybe when you go very insane and loose all your insanity: you die. Oh wait... stop the nonsense please. I love these things as ideas, but not in a game where other classes don't have to deal with that and have already a lot of strength. New utility for Spriest in dungeon M+: Mind-control your character and jump to the nearest void where you die

Commentaire de deathslover

on 2018-10-18T10:06:16-05:00

tbh part of me hopes that this "conversation" helps the dev team out with what they are doing with shaman specially enhance but i dont think it will do much. they dont listen to the ppl that play the games and of course the theorycrafters. they genuinly try to help out the devs by throwing ideas at them but they refuse to listen to them. at this point of time i have very little "faith" in blizz. i still believe we havent left beta. they should have delayed the game a few months and at least gave us classes that work

Commentaire de notrees

on 2018-10-18T10:31:47-05:00

The feedback on the ENH shamans is very well written and includes most of what I feel myself about the spec. The only thing I would add is that I don't like how the rotation sometimes feels like you are only hitting stormstrike. It takes away from how impactful it feels not to mention makes lava lash feel like a wet noodle. IMO they need to remove stormbringer and bring back the old searing totem gameplay where searing totem procs lava lash and stormstrike is on a CD. This also fixes another issues the shaman has as a whole which is there are no fire times in any of the specs at the moment. The AOE needs a complete overhall as well now that i think about it.

Commentaire de kexul1019

on 2018-10-18T13:40:47-05:00

Blizzard hasn't said anything about shadow priest because they are waiting for everyone here and on the forums to give them something. They'll throw in a few numbers, and then, to keep it "their original idea" they'll pull out something from their left-field originality and make shadow priests melee or something to mess it up again...which I am joking about btw they wouldn't do something THAT crazy XD.... I have given up all hope for shadow. All I have left for my favorite spec is jokes and sarcasm.

Commentaire de Easyrok

on 2018-10-19T08:22:20-05:00

Even thematically. I've never understood why the ultimate goal of Shadow Priests was to ... become insane and remain insane as long as possible ? We should be trying to use the power of the Shadows, but still trying to remain sane. \rReaching max insanity should just Mind-Control your character and\/or kill you.\r\rThe thematic idea is you're drawing power from the Old Gods\/Void while keeping your Sanity intact. Surrender to Madness was a neat idea where you fully give in to the Void and do get a huge power boost before being taken by it.\r\rThat aside, I feel like the only shadow main not begging for some giant revamp. All I really want is the fun aspects of the spec from Legion to come back. I'm fine with where my DPS is currently (consistently above the middle in raids), and I'm honestly tired of the hyperbole of people calling the whole spec trash.

Commentaire de sbensen

on 2018-10-19T14:56:39-05:00

Even thematically. I've never understood why the ultimate goal of Shadow Priests was to ... become insane and remain insane as long as possible ? We should be trying to use the power of the Shadows, but still trying to remain sane. \rReaching max insanity should just Mind-Control your character and\/or kill you.\r\rThe thematic idea is you're drawing power from the Old Gods\/Void while keeping your Sanity intact. Surrender to Madness was a neat idea where you fully give in to the Void and do get a huge power boost before being taken by it.\r\rThat aside, I feel like the only shadow main not begging for some giant revamp. All I really want is the fun aspects of the spec from Legion to come back. I'm fine with where my DPS is currently (consistently above the middle in raids), and I'm honestly tired of the hyperbole of people calling the whole spec trash.\r\rAgree with that. I'm never at the bottom of the charts, but it feels like spriests have to try hard just to be mediocre in damage. Even with bis\/decent artifact traits.