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Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

Who would the Pacers be looking at for 10 or 11 (I realize it's most likely just speculation)?

Let's see. Milsap is an expiring and will likely want more money. I don't know how that would be worth it to the Hornets for the 10th pick.

I don't see Turner getting traded. However, I'd definitely do DC to the Hornets, Turner to the Pacers and the 10th pick to the Sixers...of course other pieces would be needed, but if Lillard isn't there at 10, I'd love to get Turner!

Bledsoe for the 10th? I don't see how he's anywhere close to that. While I am not sure DC is worth the 10th pick, he's certainly worth more than Bledsoe.

First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

Let's see. Milsap is an expiring and will likely want more money. I don't know how that would be worth it to the Hornets for the 10th pick.

I don't see Turner getting traded. However, I'd definitely do DC to the Hornets, Turner to the Pacers and the 10th pick to the Sixers...of course other pieces would be needed, but if Lillard isn't there at 10, I'd love to get Turner!

Bledsoe for the 10th? I don't see how he's anywhere close to that. While I am not sure DC is worth the 10th pick, he's certainly worth more than Bledsoe.

I don't think so. Bledsoe made a huge case for himself in the playoffs.

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If we get #10 from the Hornets, than that Troy Murphy trade is even more lopsided than we thought originally.

I know folks are thinking the trade up would he for Rivers, but my bet would be Zeller or Henson. I think the Pacers try to get bigger. Hibbert, West and Hansbrough are the main bigs, with Lou a free agent, as well as Fez I believe.

Bird wants the best bench in the league, but i think the bench let us down a bit in the Miami series, so that's where I'll expect us to upgrade.

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I'm guessing that at most....it's the Pacers offering DC for the #10 or #11 pick....but I'd easily rank Milsap at the top of that list if I had to choose one for either pick. Evan Turner, Bledsoe and DC IMHO has relatively the same trade value...they just bring different things to the table.

I'd just like to say that if the Pacers did this, they'd have essentially turned Troy Murphy into a #10 overall pick.

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Anyone see the Pic on twitter of Fab dunking?? Lance and a few others were scrimmaging with the group. Wish PG would of stayed around for a few weeks before going to Vegas for usa bball

On Big Joe and Grady, I think it was Brunner and Wells that were on and they were all talking about how they wish the FO would make PG stick around. Not that he isn't working or playing, but they felt this was the point in his career where he needed to be under the thumb doing the right workouts, drills, and scrimmages all the time.

They also felt he should play in Summer League so he was forced to be "the man" and improve his confidence to take over.

Grady asked Brunner in all his years if he had every seen a player become a killer, in reference to Paul George. Brunner said he could see a Joe Johnson situation. First years Johnson floated around, scoring easy, but never showed that takeover mentality. The Celtics even traded him, proving to be a mistake.

Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

If we get #10 from the Hornets, than that Troy Murphy trade is even more lopsided than we thought originally.

I know folks are thinking the trade up would he for Rivers, but my bet would be Zeller or Henson. I think the Pacers try to get bigger. Hibbert, West and Hansbrough are the main bigs, with Lou a free agent, as well as Fez I believe.

Bird wants the best bench in the league, but i think the bench let us down a bit in the Miami series, so that's where I'll expect us to upgrade.

Meyers Leonard would be a better choice than Zeller as a BIG, and is projected at around #12 presently.

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Its the first year in a while that I'd be ok picking a big man to develop, assuming Roy is back. I'm usually against these project type bigs that don't work out, more often than not.

The goal, imo, should be to get a true playmaking point guard even if its a back up rookie. If they move up to 10 or 11, Kendall Marshall would be my pick even though you'd be giving up one of the best back ups in the league in DC. The reason is if K Marshall develops you'll have your starting quarterback of the future who makes others around him better. I think DCs ceiling will never be a playmaking top notch starter type. No knock on DC, he's just a scoring type Point.

There's all kinds of road blocks to this pursuit, if you trade DC, what if G Hill gets a stupid offer you can't match. You could have taken 2 steps back as a team with an unproven starting rookie, who may not be what you hope and no descernable back up.

Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

Its the first year in a while that I'd be ok picking a big man to develop, assuming Roy is back. I'm usually against these project type bigs that don't work out, more often than not.

The goal, imo, should be to get a true playmaking point guard even if its a back up rookie. If they move up to 10 or 11, Kendall Marshall would be my pick even though you'd be giving up one of the best back ups in the league in DC. The reason is if K Marshall develops you'll have your starting quarterback of the future who makes others around him better. I think DCs ceiling will never be a playmaking top notch starter type. No knock on DC, he's just a scoring type Point.

There's all kinds of road blocks to this pursuit, if you trade DC, what if G Hill gets a stupid offer you can't match. You could have taken 2 steps back as a team with an unproven starting rookie, who may not be what you hope and no descernable back up.

Its a slippery slope.

I can't disagree with your thinking, but there are other PG's available that would be available such as Felton, Miller, Dragic, Lowry, and Sessions, so I wouldn't let that be a deal killer.

"I don't think this is a very strong draft. I think there will be some players that do well in our league, but there's a lot of kids that didn't come out. I think I made the statement that I like Ty Zeller, he's going back to school. He didn't come out. Damn."

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Re: Off season Rumors and Speculation

On Zeller, what a nice set up it would be for him to practice against Roy everyday. Tyler has post moves already and is athletic, refinement needed for sure, but he's legit size & athleticism to at the very least project as a back up center in his rookie year. I also think his celing is potentially higher than that in the right offense with the right surrounding players. NC worked through him early and often, last year. He already has the foundation to be player, imo. He's probably not projected to be an allstar, which may explain the lack of buzz for him, right now, but not everyone has to have that type of ceiling.