UPDATE: Poole council backs transit sites for travellers

This live event has finished

Summary

Councillors will be asked to approve the sites at Marshes End, Creekmoor, and land north of the B&Q car park, Broadstone Way at a meeting tonight

They will also be asked to authorise a planning application to enable the borough to establish these temporary stopping places by the summer.

The council estimates it will cost £175,000 to construct the site at Marshes End, and up to £70,000 at Broadstone Way.

Last October Borough of Poole held a summit to try to find solutions to the perceived traveller problem, where it was agreed to explore the transit site option

We have allowed comments but please be aware: Any reference to gypsies or any racially offensive term, or any comment inciting violence or hatred is in breach of our terms and conditions and will result in your account being suspended without notice. Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are legally recognised as ethnic groups, and protected by the Race Relations Act. Please keep your comments to this particular incident and do not generalise. Thanks for your co-operation.

Most Recent

Comments (31)

I really hope the council do not allow a legal traveller site in these areas. It is not fair on people who live around the area paying high prices to live there to have a load of travellers next-door! I do NOT back the site at all!!!

I really hope the council do not allow a legal traveller site in these areas. It is not fair on people who live around the area paying high prices to live there to have a load of travellers next-door! I do NOT back the site at all!!!Kevin_123

I really hope the council do not allow a legal traveller site in these areas. It is not fair on people who live around the area paying high prices to live there to have a load of travellers next-door! I do NOT back the site at all!!!

Score: 28

smhinto says...6:42pm Mon 27 Jan 14

I wonder why the authorities cannot utilise the local Council recycling or refuse tip as a transit area for these undesirables. . There again perhaps they could.

I wonder why the authorities cannot utilise the local Council recycling or refuse tip as a transit area for these undesirables.
.
There again perhaps they could.smhinto

I wonder why the authorities cannot utilise the local Council recycling or refuse tip as a transit area for these undesirables. . There again perhaps they could.

Score: 14

Wackerone says...6:43pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Kevin_123 wrote…

I really hope the council do not allow a legal traveller site in these areas. It is not fair on people who live around the area paying high prices to live there to have a load of travellers next-door! I do NOT back the site at all!!!

By your very logic, there is nobody in Poole in any area who also pay a lot of money for their property's who would want these people anywhere near them. Quite agree, don't put them in Creekmoor or anywhere else come to that.

[quote][p][bold]Kevin_123[/bold] wrote:
I really hope the council do not allow a legal traveller site in these areas. It is not fair on people who live around the area paying high prices to live there to have a load of travellers next-door! I do NOT back the site at all!!![/p][/quote]By your very logic, there is nobody in Poole in any area who also pay a lot of money for their property's who would want these people anywhere near them. Quite agree, don't put them in Creekmoor or anywhere else come to that.Wackerone

Kevin_123 wrote…

I really hope the council do not allow a legal traveller site in these areas. It is not fair on people who live around the area paying high prices to live there to have a load of travellers next-door! I do NOT back the site at all!!!

By your very logic, there is nobody in Poole in any area who also pay a lot of money for their property's who would want these people anywhere near them. Quite agree, don't put them in Creekmoor or anywhere else come to that.

Score: 16

drJones says...6:43pm Mon 27 Jan 14

are non travellers allowed to make use of this site also? because if we aren't, then I would like to see an area where we can park up and sleep for free. I am a UK resident and we have rights too.

are non travellers allowed to make use of this site also? because if we aren't, then I would like to see an area where we can park up and sleep for free. I am a UK resident and we have rights too.drJones

are non travellers allowed to make use of this site also? because if we aren't, then I would like to see an area where we can park up and sleep for free. I am a UK resident and we have rights too.

Score: 34

i have heard it all now says...7:00pm Mon 27 Jan 14

£175,000 Every penny well spent !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As soon as the 4 pitches are filled they can park up at Baiter or Whitecliff,I may try this approach as well,I have always wanted a sea view.

£175,000 Every penny well spent !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As soon as the 4 pitches are filled they can park up at Baiter or Whitecliff,I may try this approach as well,I have always wanted a sea view.i have heard it all now

£175,000 Every penny well spent !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As soon as the 4 pitches are filled they can park up at Baiter or Whitecliff,I may try this approach as well,I have always wanted a sea view.

Score: 22

DansAFCB says...7:06pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Bloody disgusting! These people CHOOSE to travel and set up illegal camps at the taxpayer's cost then because of a PC world we as taxpayers have to fund their lives and build transit site's. Why can't we stand up to them and refuse them anything. They should pay for hotel's if they choose to travel like the rest of us have too.

Bloody disgusting! These people CHOOSE to travel and set up illegal camps at the taxpayer's cost then because of a PC world we as taxpayers have to fund their lives and build transit site's. Why can't we stand up to them and refuse them anything. They should pay for hotel's if they choose to travel like the rest of us have too.DansAFCB

Bloody disgusting! These people CHOOSE to travel and set up illegal camps at the taxpayer's cost then because of a PC world we as taxpayers have to fund their lives and build transit site's. Why can't we stand up to them and refuse them anything. They should pay for hotel's if they choose to travel like the rest of us have too.

Score: 24

i have heard it all now says...7:23pm Mon 27 Jan 14

I PREDICT A RIOT!

I PREDICT A RIOT!i have heard it all now

I PREDICT A RIOT!

Score: 13

Townee says...7:25pm Mon 27 Jan 14

£175,000 to build this place, what will the daily/weekly rent be for the travellers? If non why not? We pay council tax every year and don't have a choice if we want to stay out of jail.

£175,000 to build this place, what will the daily/weekly rent be for the travellers? If non why not?
We pay council tax every year and don't have a choice if we want to stay out of jail.Townee

£175,000 to build this place, what will the daily/weekly rent be for the travellers? If non why not? We pay council tax every year and don't have a choice if we want to stay out of jail.

Score: 20

BIGTONE says...8:07pm Mon 27 Jan 14

The travellers are 10 steps ahead of everybody. 25 pitches.....30 turn up. 5 park illegally. Get moved on after 5 days..... Swap places with 5 off the transit site and the circle begins again.

The travellers are 10 steps ahead of everybody.
25 pitches.....30 turn up. 5 park illegally.
Get moved on after 5 days.....
Swap places with 5 off the transit site and the circle begins again.BIGTONE

The travellers are 10 steps ahead of everybody. 25 pitches.....30 turn up. 5 park illegally. Get moved on after 5 days..... Swap places with 5 off the transit site and the circle begins again.

Score: 17

i have heard it all now says...8:09pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Who voted for it? Please name them,See you at the ballot box.

Who voted for it? Please name them,See you at the ballot box.i have heard it all now

Who voted for it? Please name them,See you at the ballot box.

Score: 15

Wackerone says...8:09pm Mon 27 Jan 14

i have heard it all now wrote…

I PREDICT A RIOT!

Lead on in the front!

[quote][p][bold]i have heard it all now[/bold] wrote:
I PREDICT A RIOT![/p][/quote]Lead on in the front!Wackerone

i have heard it all now wrote…

I PREDICT A RIOT!

Lead on in the front!

Score: 6

Originalbabyjames says...8:14pm Mon 27 Jan 14

From the comments in the live stream cllr Brooke seemed happy with the proposal. Wonder what the people who voted for him will have to say.

From the comments in the live stream cllr Brooke seemed happy with the proposal. Wonder what the people who voted for him will have to say.Originalbabyjames

From the comments in the live stream cllr Brooke seemed happy with the proposal. Wonder what the people who voted for him will have to say.

Score: 5

JustForPoole says...8:15pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Bet your sweet life if they put up 20 temporary pitches for these holiday making "travellers" we will get 21 "travellers" ........ then back to square one!!!!! They have got to be banished from whence they came!!!

Bet your sweet life if they put up 20 temporary pitches for these holiday making "travellers" we will get 21 "travellers" ........ then back to square one!!!!! They have got to be banished from whence they came!!!JustForPoole

Bet your sweet life if they put up 20 temporary pitches for these holiday making "travellers" we will get 21 "travellers" ........ then back to square one!!!!! They have got to be banished from whence they came!!!

Score: 4

i have heard it all now says...8:16pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Bye Bye Liberals in Broadstone.

Bye Bye Liberals in Broadstone.i have heard it all now

Bye Bye Liberals in Broadstone.

Score: 11

Originalbabyjames says...8:18pm Mon 27 Jan 14

i have heard it all now wrote…

Bye Bye Liberals in Broadstone.

Agreed!

[quote][p][bold]i have heard it all now[/bold] wrote:
Bye Bye Liberals in Broadstone.[/p][/quote]Agreed!Originalbabyjames

i have heard it all now wrote…

Bye Bye Liberals in Broadstone.

Agreed!

Score: 12

Priesty_UK says...8:28pm Mon 27 Jan 14

FFS This is just great, voted in by out of touch old bid's who dont have a clue. Give them a broom and make them clean up the mess when they all start turning up. They can also pay the costs when vans/garages etc get broken into. I can see it now - Poole, Dorset its a lovely place to visit.... If your old or a gypsy. Here in Poole we aim to provide for the older generation and the travelling community.

FFS This is just great, voted in by out of touch old bid's who dont have a clue. Give them a broom and make them clean up the mess when they all start turning up. They can also pay the costs when vans/garages etc get broken into. I can see it now - Poole, Dorset its a lovely place to visit.... If your old or a gypsy. Here in Poole we aim to provide for the older generation and the travelling community.Priesty_UK

FFS This is just great, voted in by out of touch old bid's who dont have a clue. Give them a broom and make them clean up the mess when they all start turning up. They can also pay the costs when vans/garages etc get broken into. I can see it now - Poole, Dorset its a lovely place to visit.... If your old or a gypsy. Here in Poole we aim to provide for the older generation and the travelling community.

Score: 2

DorsetFerret says...8:41pm Mon 27 Jan 14

i have heard it all now wrote…

Who voted for it? Please name them,See you at the ballot box.

Totally agree, these councillors need shaming. They may have won the battle but not the war, that's just starting.

[quote][p][bold]i have heard it all now[/bold] wrote:
Who voted for it? Please name them,See you at the ballot box.[/p][/quote]Totally agree, these councillors need shaming. They may have won the battle but not the war, that's just starting.DorsetFerret

i have heard it all now wrote…

Who voted for it? Please name them,See you at the ballot box.

Totally agree, these councillors need shaming. They may have won the battle but not the war, that's just starting.

Score: 8

mrstanner says...8:49pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Surprise, surprise - not one but TWO sites right on my door step. I have already been told the lack of municipal grass cutting outside my house is NOTHING to do with cuts - it's to 'grow a meadow', and my street lighting going off at midnight is because I live in a 'safe area'...how come I pay the same council tax as everyone else in Poole yet Creekmoor gets the **** end of the stick time and time again. Hasn't even got its own school and I have to trail to Waterloo to vote - Creekmoor Councillors are letting us down big time!

Surprise, surprise - not one but TWO sites right on my door step. I have already been told the lack of municipal grass cutting outside my house is NOTHING to do with cuts - it's to 'grow a meadow', and my street lighting going off at midnight is because I live in a 'safe area'...how come I pay the same council tax as everyone else in Poole yet Creekmoor gets the **** end of the stick time and time again. Hasn't even got its own school and I have to trail to Waterloo to vote - Creekmoor Councillors are letting us down big time!mrstanner

Surprise, surprise - not one but TWO sites right on my door step. I have already been told the lack of municipal grass cutting outside my house is NOTHING to do with cuts - it's to 'grow a meadow', and my street lighting going off at midnight is because I live in a 'safe area'...how come I pay the same council tax as everyone else in Poole yet Creekmoor gets the **** end of the stick time and time again. Hasn't even got its own school and I have to trail to Waterloo to vote - Creekmoor Councillors are letting us down big time!

Score: 6

Carol62 says...8:50pm Mon 27 Jan 14

As a resident of Creekmoor I hope the council will now keep our street lights on so that we can watch them break into our properties !!! We should be entitled to a council tax rebate...bet the one that voted in favour do not live near the site. Now watch the prices of our properties fall..wonder if the council will make up the shortfall !

As a resident of Creekmoor I hope the council will now keep our street lights on so that we can watch them break into our properties !!! We should be entitled to a council tax rebate...bet the one that voted in favour do not live near the site. Now watch the prices of our properties fall..wonder if the council will make up the shortfall !Carol62

As a resident of Creekmoor I hope the council will now keep our street lights on so that we can watch them break into our properties !!! We should be entitled to a council tax rebate...bet the one that voted in favour do not live near the site. Now watch the prices of our properties fall..wonder if the council will make up the shortfall !

Score: 6

mrstanner says...8:51pm Mon 27 Jan 14

I wonder just how many of the 'fors' live in Creekmoor?? I notice Cllr Butt is described above as keen to support the move - she doesn't live here! Why did this meeting have to be done on an emergency basis?

I wonder just how many of the 'fors' live in Creekmoor?? I notice Cllr Butt is described above as keen to support the move - she doesn't live here! Why did this meeting have to be done on an emergency basis?mrstanner

I wonder just how many of the 'fors' live in Creekmoor?? I notice Cllr Butt is described above as keen to support the move - she doesn't live here! Why did this meeting have to be done on an emergency basis?

Score: 7

campermad says...9:08pm Mon 27 Jan 14

I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.

I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.campermad

I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.

Score: 6

we-shall-see says...9:25pm Mon 27 Jan 14

campermad wrote…

I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.

In which case she is probably being pressed into towing the party line …… either that or she's a total hypocrite :o/

[quote][p][bold]campermad[/bold] wrote:
I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.[/p][/quote]In which case she is probably being pressed into towing the party line …… either that or she's a total hypocrite :o/we-shall-see

campermad wrote…

I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.

In which case she is probably being pressed into towing the party line …… either that or she's a total hypocrite :o/

Score: 3

pacamar says...10:30pm Mon 27 Jan 14

As someone has already commented, they may have won this battle, but they have not yet won the war. This is just the beginning, do not expect the residents of Creekmoor to take this lying down! (Unless of course you include lying down in the road at the entrance to the site when the Council are trying to implement their little scheme!) Yes I AM serious.

As someone has already commented, they may have won this battle, but they have not yet won the war.
This is just the beginning, do not expect the residents of Creekmoor to take this lying down!
(Unless of course you include lying down in the road at the entrance to the site when the Council are trying to implement their little scheme!)
Yes I AM serious.pacamar

As someone has already commented, they may have won this battle, but they have not yet won the war. This is just the beginning, do not expect the residents of Creekmoor to take this lying down! (Unless of course you include lying down in the road at the entrance to the site when the Council are trying to implement their little scheme!) Yes I AM serious.

Score: 2

pacamar says...8:44am Tue 28 Jan 14

we-shall-see wrote…

campermad wrote…

I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.

In which case she is probably being pressed into towing the party line …… either that or she's a total hypocrite :o/

Please get your facts right. I was at the Council meeting and Judy Butt spoke very eloquently AGAINST this proposal. Unfortunately, 23 other Councillors had already made up their minds on the issue, and no amount of reasoned debate was going to change that. However, this is not the end, in fact it is just the beginning. This now has to have planning approval before the proposal can proceed. We now need to ensure that EVERYONE makes the effort and makes their voice heard in order to defeat this ridiculous proposal. That includes those who didn't bother to attend the Council meeting and then go on to make false comments!

[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]campermad[/bold] wrote:
I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.[/p][/quote]In which case she is probably being pressed into towing the party line …… either that or she's a total hypocrite :o/[/p][/quote]Please get your facts right.
I was at the Council meeting and Judy Butt spoke very eloquently AGAINST this proposal. Unfortunately, 23 other Councillors had already made up their minds on the issue, and no amount of reasoned debate was going to change that.
However, this is not the end, in fact it is just the beginning. This now has to have planning approval before the proposal can proceed. We now need to ensure that EVERYONE makes the effort and makes their voice heard in order to defeat this ridiculous proposal. That includes those who didn't bother to attend the Council meeting and then go on to make false comments!pacamar

we-shall-see wrote…

campermad wrote…

I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.

In which case she is probably being pressed into towing the party line …… either that or she's a total hypocrite :o/

Please get your facts right. I was at the Council meeting and Judy Butt spoke very eloquently AGAINST this proposal. Unfortunately, 23 other Councillors had already made up their minds on the issue, and no amount of reasoned debate was going to change that. However, this is not the end, in fact it is just the beginning. This now has to have planning approval before the proposal can proceed. We now need to ensure that EVERYONE makes the effort and makes their voice heard in order to defeat this ridiculous proposal. That includes those who didn't bother to attend the Council meeting and then go on to make false comments!

Score: -1

Pile123 says...8:54am Tue 28 Jan 14

Councillors, when reviewing this "planning application" please can you remember you are representing your constituents, the ones that will be funding the work. We do not want this - is this not clear? We do not approve of providing free accommodation (actually it is paid for, by residents) We do not appreciate the increased in ongoing costs of clearing rubbish from the sites if and when they start to be used It is appalling that this is specifically a problem in the summer holidays What was the review of proposed sites last year for if all that was intended was a proposed ambush in the heart of a local residential area?

Councillors, when reviewing this "planning application" please can you remember you are representing your constituents, the ones that will be funding the work.
We do not want this - is this not clear?
We do not approve of providing free accommodation (actually it is paid for, by residents)
We do not appreciate the increased in ongoing costs of clearing rubbish from the sites if and when they start to be used
It is appalling that this is specifically a problem in the summer holidays
What was the review of proposed sites last year for if all that was intended was a proposed ambush in the heart of a local residential area?Pile123

Councillors, when reviewing this "planning application" please can you remember you are representing your constituents, the ones that will be funding the work. We do not want this - is this not clear? We do not approve of providing free accommodation (actually it is paid for, by residents) We do not appreciate the increased in ongoing costs of clearing rubbish from the sites if and when they start to be used It is appalling that this is specifically a problem in the summer holidays What was the review of proposed sites last year for if all that was intended was a proposed ambush in the heart of a local residential area?

Score: 1

Gypsyking says...4:58pm Tue 28 Jan 14

What a council providing my family with free holidays in poole hope it's not too far from the sand banks joe jones of the gypsy council dun he's job get innnnnn hope it's ready for the summer

What a council providing my family with free holidays in poole hope it's not too far from the sand banks joe jones of the gypsy council dun he's job get innnnnn hope it's ready for the summerGypsyking

What a council providing my family with free holidays in poole hope it's not too far from the sand banks joe jones of the gypsy council dun he's job get innnnnn hope it's ready for the summer

Score: 0

portia6 says...7:01pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Gypsyking wrote…

What a council providing my family with free holidays in poole hope it's not too far from the sand banks joe jones of the gypsy council dun he's job get innnnnn hope it's ready for the summer

Millfield is a small council estate I believe, I know a lot have been bought so housing stock has been reduced drastically for those on the waiting list for a home it looks like Poole council should provide some nice caravans.

[quote][p][bold]Gypsyking[/bold] wrote:
What a council providing my family with free holidays in poole hope it's not too far from the sand banks joe jones of the gypsy council dun he's job get innnnnn hope it's ready for the summer[/p][/quote]Millfield is a small council estate I believe, I know a lot have been bought so
housing stock has been reduced drastically for those on the waiting list for a
home it looks like Poole council should provide some nice caravans.portia6

Gypsyking wrote…

What a council providing my family with free holidays in poole hope it's not too far from the sand banks joe jones of the gypsy council dun he's job get innnnnn hope it's ready for the summer

Millfield is a small council estate I believe, I know a lot have been bought so housing stock has been reduced drastically for those on the waiting list for a home it looks like Poole council should provide some nice caravans.

Score: 0

Pile123 says...7:34pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Originalbabyjames wrote…

i have heard it all now wrote…

Bye Bye Liberals in Broadstone.

Agreed!

agreed, when do we get the chance to vote next (and I don't even live in Creekmoor). Residents have been ambushed by the decision. This should never be placed in a residential area and the skate park is on a commuter route - what an 'advert' for the town.

[quote][p][bold]Originalbabyjames[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]i have heard it all now[/bold] wrote:
Bye Bye Liberals in Broadstone.[/p][/quote]Agreed![/p][/quote]agreed, when do we get the chance to vote next (and I don't even live in Creekmoor).
Residents have been ambushed by the decision. This should never be placed in a residential area and the skate park is on a commuter route - what an 'advert' for the town.Pile123

Originalbabyjames wrote…

i have heard it all now wrote…

Bye Bye Liberals in Broadstone.

Agreed!

agreed, when do we get the chance to vote next (and I don't even live in Creekmoor). Residents have been ambushed by the decision. This should never be placed in a residential area and the skate park is on a commuter route - what an 'advert' for the town.

Score: 0

campermad says...8:13pm Tue 28 Jan 14

pacamar wrote…

we-shall-see wrote…

campermad wrote…

I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.

In which case she is probably being pressed into towing the party line …… either that or she's a total hypocrite :o/

Please get your facts right. I was at the Council meeting and Judy Butt spoke very eloquently AGAINST this proposal. Unfortunately, 23 other Councillors had already made up their minds on the issue, and no amount of reasoned debate was going to change that. However, this is not the end, in fact it is just the beginning. This now has to have planning approval before the proposal can proceed. We now need to ensure that EVERYONE makes the effort and makes their voice heard in order to defeat this ridiculous proposal. That includes those who didn't bother to attend the Council meeting and then go on to make false comments!

I was only going by the Echo article. However after having spoken to Judy Butt I can now agree that she did not say that at all. She is totally against it.

[quote][p][bold]pacamar[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]we-shall-see[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]campermad[/bold] wrote:
I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.[/p][/quote]In which case she is probably being pressed into towing the party line …… either that or she's a total hypocrite :o/[/p][/quote]Please get your facts right.
I was at the Council meeting and Judy Butt spoke very eloquently AGAINST this proposal. Unfortunately, 23 other Councillors had already made up their minds on the issue, and no amount of reasoned debate was going to change that.
However, this is not the end, in fact it is just the beginning. This now has to have planning approval before the proposal can proceed. We now need to ensure that EVERYONE makes the effort and makes their voice heard in order to defeat this ridiculous proposal. That includes those who didn't bother to attend the Council meeting and then go on to make false comments![/p][/quote]I was only going by the Echo article. However after having spoken to Judy Butt I can now agree that she did not say that at all. She is totally against it.campermad

pacamar wrote…

we-shall-see wrote…

campermad wrote…

I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.

In which case she is probably being pressed into towing the party line …… either that or she's a total hypocrite :o/

Please get your facts right. I was at the Council meeting and Judy Butt spoke very eloquently AGAINST this proposal. Unfortunately, 23 other Councillors had already made up their minds on the issue, and no amount of reasoned debate was going to change that. However, this is not the end, in fact it is just the beginning. This now has to have planning approval before the proposal can proceed. We now need to ensure that EVERYONE makes the effort and makes their voice heard in order to defeat this ridiculous proposal. That includes those who didn't bother to attend the Council meeting and then go on to make false comments!

I was only going by the Echo article. However after having spoken to Judy Butt I can now agree that she did not say that at all. She is totally against it.

Score: 0

mrstanner says...8:19pm Tue 28 Jan 14

pacamar says... we-shall-see wrote: campermad wrote: I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th. In which case she is probably being pressed into towing the party line …… either that or she's a total hypocrite :o/ Please get your facts right. I was at the Council meeting and Judy Butt spoke very eloquently AGAINST this proposal. Unfortunately, 23 other Councillors had already made up their minds on the issue, and no amount of reasoned debate was going to change that. However, this is not the end, in fact it is just the beginning. This now has to have planning approval before the proposal can proceed. We now need to ensure that EVERYONE makes the effort and makes their voice heard in order to defeat this ridiculous proposal. That includes those who didn't bother to attend the Council meeting and then go on to make false comments! My comment re Judy Butt being 'keen to support' is taken direct from the live transcript from the Echo, printed directly above all these comments that have responded, I too would have gone to this meeting but being a sly last minute affair I did not know anything about it until it hit the news, and the same transcript above suggests the public were already made to sit outside and not hear what was going on. Of course IF I had been been aware and the meeting WAS conducted in an appropriate open to all/plenty of notice fashion, I wouldn't HAVE to rely on the above Echo report,.

pacamar says...
we-shall-see wrote:
campermad wrote:
I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th.
In which case she is probably being pressed into towing the party line …… either that or she's a total hypocrite :o/
Please get your facts right.
I was at the Council meeting and Judy Butt spoke very eloquently AGAINST this proposal. Unfortunately, 23 other Councillors had already made up their minds on the issue, and no amount of reasoned debate was going to change that.
However, this is not the end, in fact it is just the beginning. This now has to have planning approval before the proposal can proceed. We now need to ensure that EVERYONE makes the effort and makes their voice heard in order to defeat this ridiculous proposal. That includes those who didn't bother to attend the Council meeting and then go on to make false comments!
My comment re Judy Butt being 'keen to support' is taken direct from the live transcript from the Echo, printed directly above all these comments that have responded, I too would have gone to this meeting but being a sly last minute affair I did not know anything about it until it hit the news, and the same transcript above suggests the public were already made to sit outside and not hear what was going on. Of course IF I had been been aware and the meeting WAS conducted in an appropriate open to all/plenty of notice fashion, I wouldn't HAVE to rely on the above Echo report,.mrstanner

pacamar says... we-shall-see wrote: campermad wrote: I can guarantee that none of the yes votes live in Creekmoor. This whole process seems to have been rushed through in a very underhand way. I think that the council hoped we ar Creekmoor wouldnt find out. Also what a total disgrace for Judy Butt to say that she would like to support this proposal. She certainly did not give that impression at the meeting of local residents on the 25th. In which case she is probably being pressed into towing the party line …… either that or she's a total hypocrite :o/ Please get your facts right. I was at the Council meeting and Judy Butt spoke very eloquently AGAINST this proposal. Unfortunately, 23 other Councillors had already made up their minds on the issue, and no amount of reasoned debate was going to change that. However, this is not the end, in fact it is just the beginning. This now has to have planning approval before the proposal can proceed. We now need to ensure that EVERYONE makes the effort and makes their voice heard in order to defeat this ridiculous proposal. That includes those who didn't bother to attend the Council meeting and then go on to make false comments! My comment re Judy Butt being 'keen to support' is taken direct from the live transcript from the Echo, printed directly above all these comments that have responded, I too would have gone to this meeting but being a sly last minute affair I did not know anything about it until it hit the news, and the same transcript above suggests the public were already made to sit outside and not hear what was going on. Of course IF I had been been aware and the meeting WAS conducted in an appropriate open to all/plenty of notice fashion, I wouldn't HAVE to rely on the above Echo report,.

Score: 0

campermad says...8:19pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Also not everyone can attend the meeting at that time of day so perhaps pacamar should try not being so self righteous and sarcastic to another Creekmoor resident

Also not everyone can attend the meeting at that time of day so perhaps pacamar should try not being so self righteous and sarcastic to another Creekmoor residentcampermad

Also not everyone can attend the meeting at that time of day so perhaps pacamar should try not being so self righteous and sarcastic to another Creekmoor resident

Ipsoregulated

This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standardards Organisations's Editors' Code of Practice. If you have a compaint about editorial content which relates to inaccuracy or intrusion, then please contact the editor here. If you are dissatisfied with the response provided you can contact IPSO here