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10-17-2008 04:37 PM

camaraderie

Labatt...down bahamas & south...leaving the dink in the water in SOME places even with a cable lock is not a great idea. BUT you do not need davits. A dingy lifting harness will get it out of the water with your halyard where it can be kept more safely overnight.
You don't need the whisker pole if you are content to allow the dink to rest on the hull a couple of feet up.

10-17-2008 03:09 PM

labatt

I was talking to a couple of cruising families at the Annapolis show and they recommended skipping davits and just locking up the dinghy, in the water, with a long looped cable at night. Their point was that, in most cases, if someone else's dinghy is easier to get than yours... For long passages, we'd stick the dinghy on the foredeck, but I'd like to skip getting davits. Thoughts?

10-17-2008 02:20 PM

tausap

Quote:

Originally Posted by eryka

After removing the engine, we use the windlass to get our 10-ft BRIG RIB dinghy aboard the foredeck:
(1) move dinghy alongside the boat just fwd of the mast
(2) put a snatch block on a spare spinn halyard
(3) run a line from the dinghy, up thru the snatch block, and down to the windlass
(4) raise the spinn halyard so the block is about 12' above the deck
(5) step on the "up" button on the windlass, and tail. The dinghy will raise and center neatly above the foredeck.
(6) lower the spinn halyard

Then we deflate the tubes for better visibility, and off we go!

Neat trick, once I get around to installing my windlass I will try it.

10-17-2008 12:53 PM

eryka

no muscles required!

After removing the engine, we use the windlass to get our 10-ft BRIG RIB dinghy aboard the foredeck:
(1) move dinghy alongside the boat just fwd of the mast
(2) put a snatch block on a spare spinn halyard
(3) run a line from the dinghy, up thru the snatch block, and down to the windlass
(4) raise the spinn halyard so the block is about 12' above the deck
(5) step on the "up" button on the windlass, and tail. The dinghy will raise and center neatly above the foredeck.
(6) lower the spinn halyard

Then we deflate the tubes for better visibility, and off we go!

10-17-2008 12:29 PM

funsailthekeys

dingy placement

You can see in my photo gallery that I keep mine on the foredeck. It's 10' but still lots of room.

I am wondering what others use to lift the engine on and off the dinghy transom and how they lift the dinghy onto the foredeck. I don't want to buy a separate motor lift, but I sure as hell don't want to drop the outboard in the water

10-17-2008 11:11 AM

Valiente

Quote:

Originally Posted by tausap

I have Atkins & Hoyle Davits and bent the 2" diameter vertical support when I had the Dinghy and engine hanging on the davits during a rough day on the Chesapeake. Of course I had just bought the boat and was new to having a boat big enough to transport a dinghy. I was caught off guard by how much stress it put on the davits.

I am wondering what others use to lift the engine on and off the dinghy transom and how they lift the dinghy onto the foredeck. I don't want to buy a separate motor lift, but I sure as hell don't want to drop the outboard in the water

Yes, the davit failure appalled me as well, given that the seas were just five feet or so. We were on a 15 degree heel, and the twist revealed a casting failure. The davits were rated for 400 lbs, and were carrying 125 lbs., max.

A&H davits, along with Kato, are generally considered top-end. Certainly I can't say enough good things about the quality of their hatches and portlights (except for the ridiculous cost of replacement gaskets!), so I would have been surprised as well. Let's say it's another argument against davit use other than as a "temporary parking place" at anchor or in calm motoring conditions.

I used a deck crane atop a strut-mounted weldment to lift my 9.9 aboard, and the spare foresail halyard to bring the RIB vertically aboard the foredeck. I would let the pontoons take the weight aft and then lower it whatever way it wanted to go down to the deck. Mostly, this means inverted (saving me further work), but if it was windy, I paid off the line quickly as a bucking RIB can do damage.

The new Honda 2 is handled with a light line lashed to its tender until it is off the transom, and then is just handed up. Even my five foot tall wife can one-arm it. At sea, I would rig a sling to the deck crane or to the boom, just for absolute safety should the tender and the main boat slam or otherwise do something unwelcome.

I will bring aboard both tenders in slings or four-point shackles using the main boom, using the mainsheet tackle, a separate end-boom tackle, and the topping lift (1/2 inch on my boat and obviously reeved for this sort of thing), as even their weight is tough to bring manuallly aboard over the rails, although I've done it a few times by hand, and it's tough, but possible to just physically haul either tender aboard with brute strength, but on a sailboat you are surrounded by lever arms and mechanical advantage...might as well use 'em.

10-17-2008 10:58 AM

Valiente

Quote:

Originally Posted by camaraderie

Consider it added...I like them too!

I'll third that. Prior to deciding against bringing a RIB voyaging, I checked them out and thought them a great and lighter alternative to F/G hulls on RIBs. The only issue I thought might be with stray currents in marinas where they would be used as tenders to moorings and perhaps would be on a charger. But that's a consideration with any aluminum hulled craft.

10-16-2008 10:29 PM

tausap

I have Atkins & Hoyle Davits and bent the 2" diameter vertical support when I had the Dinghy and engine hanging on the davits during a rough day on the Chesapeake. Of course I had just bought the boat and was new to having a boat big enough to transport a dinghy. I was caught off guard by how much stress it put on the davits.

I am wondering what others use to lift the engine on and off the dinghy transom and how they lift the dinghy onto the foredeck. I don't want to buy a separate motor lift, but I sure as hell don't want to drop the outboard in the water

10-16-2008 09:18 PM

edstill

Seems like a good chance to ask:

Does anyone have any experience with / opinions on the 'folding transom' RIBs? they sound like a good balance of performance and portability/stow-ability.

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