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september, but of a new report that we've entitled "the new icecurtain:russia'sstrategicreach to the arctic." but i'm not going to bore you simply with the report. we've invited two extremely thoughtful and insightful colleagues. so after i present to you a very quick overview because this is 124 pages, so you know i'm only going to do a quick overview of the report, then i'm going to invite two colleagues to join us for a discussion about the russian arctic. in fact, both of our guests have are visited the russian arctic this summer. with us we have dr. marlene larvelle, research professor at the elliot school of international affairs at george washington university. marlene has written a fabulous book on the russian arctic which i think was released two or three years ago and has done some marvelous research. she's been a very important thought leader for me on this project. and we also have joining us steven lee meyers, correspondent with "the new york times". steve has been along serving "the new york times" in moscow from 2002 and 2009, he went back recently for a brief stint, b

september, but of a new report that we've entitled "the new ice curtain: russia's strategic reach to the arctic." but i'm not going to bore you simply with the report. we've invited two extremely thoughtful and insightful colleagues. so after i present to you a very quick overview because this is 124 pages, so you know i'm only going to do a quick overview of the report, then i'm going to invite two colleagues to join us for a discussion about the russian arctic. in fact, both of our...

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ustin, i want toaddressrussia'sinvolvementin syria. e're closeytrackingrussia'seffortsto deploy additional equipment to syria. both russia and iran has continued to support politically milltrarily, the regime that people. red its own what we need in syria is a to the l solution conflict. any actions that empower the regime are unwelcome and would and not bilizing productive. we're not going to solve it quickly, but we have the right components in place and we're dynamically adjusting our campaign. achieving a lasting defeat is going to require commitment, as well as commitment and sacrifice from syria.orces in iraq and thank you. mccain, morning general senator reed, i want to thank ou for the opportunity to appear here today to provide a support of ate in the ongoing campaign against isil. i'm pleased to appear here this morning. respected ly throughout the department of defense and we are most grateful continued and strong support of our efforts. i'll join christine with some opening opening comments. address anto quickly important issue. chairman mentioned, there into investi

ustin, i want to address russia's involvement in syria. e're closey tracking russia's efforts to deploy additional equipment to syria. both russia and iran has continued to support politically milltrarily, the regime that people. red its own what we need in syria is a to the l solution conflict. any actions that empower the regime are unwelcome and would and not bilizing productive. we're not going to solve it quickly, but we have the right components in place and we're dynamically adjusting...

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. before turning to general austin, i want toaddressrussia'sinvolvementin syria. we're closely tracking russia's recent efforts to deploy additional military equipment and personnel to syria and we're in close touch to our partners and allies with these developments. both russia and iran have continued to support politically and militarily the assad regime which has systematically murdered its own people. and helped create the conditions. what we need in syria urgently is a political solution to the conflicts through a transition away from assad. and any actions that empower the regime to escalate the conflict are unwelcomed and would be destabilizing and counterproductive. this is clearly a very difficult challenge that we face. we're not going to solve it quickly, but we have the right components in place to advance our objectives and we're dynamically adjusting our campaign to a rapidly changing battlefield. achieving a lasting defeat against isil is going to require a continued commitment, strong leadership from us and the global coalition as well as commitment and sacrific

. before turning to general austin, i want to address russia's involvement in syria. we're closely tracking russia's recent efforts to deploy additional military equipment and personnel to syria and we're in close touch to our partners and allies with these developments. both russia and iran have continued to support politically and militarily the assad regime which has systematically murdered its own people. and helped create the conditions. what we need in syria urgently is a political...

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use this occasion to reinforce to president putin the importanceofrussiakeepingthe commitments they have made in the context of the minsk agreement. presidentmessage that putin has heard from some of our european allies who have raised concerns with the way that combined russian separatists forces in the eastern ukraine have continued to destabilize that country. receivetinue to important military support from the russian government and that is a clear violation of the territorial integrity of that sovereign nation. the impact of the coordinated actions of the united states and a results on russia as of those activities are not insignificant. they have contributed to a significant weakening of the russian economy over the last couple of years. those that since those sanctions were put into place. the russian economy is expected to contract about 3% this year. the russian economy in 2013 was measured at 18 the size of the the size of the u.s. economy. the 15th now just largest economy in the world. one rung below spain on the latter. , hasussian central-bank lost about $150 bill

use this occasion to reinforce to president putin the importance of russia keeping the commitments they have made in the context of the minsk agreement. presidentmessage that putin has heard from some of our european allies who have raised concerns with the way that combined russian separatists forces in the eastern ukraine have continued to destabilize that country. receivetinue to important military support from the russian government and that is a clear violation of the territorial...

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, hungary,estonia,russia, andgeorgia. i have met with prime minister netanyahu in israel, visited the allies in the arab gulf, trouble withnisia and iraq, met ukraine,dent of yo and met with our allies in germany, france, and the united kingdom. understanding the world, and the wisdom to act when needed, is not measured in frequent flyer miles for endless meetings. affective foreign policy is not about effort, it is measured by success. success in foreign policy, just like the mustard policy, must be governed by sound, unshakable principles. without a clearly stated framework for action, our emmy's will be them -- enemies will be emboldened by uncertainty and indecision. here is the first and most important principle of american foreign-policy, the world is a safer place when america leads. candidate obama crisscrossing europe, speaking before millions. he traveled to berlin to speak to finding crowds with the goal -- fawning crowds with the goal of improving reputation, but it is not given to those who ask for it, granted only to those who earn it. when it comes to dictators, tyrants

, hungary, estonia, russia, and georgia. i have met with prime minister netanyahu in israel, visited the allies in the arab gulf, trouble withnisia and iraq, met ukraine,dent of yo and met with our allies in germany, france, and the united kingdom. understanding the world, and the wisdom to act when needed, is not measured in frequent flyer miles for endless meetings. affective foreign policy is not about effort, it is measured by success. success in foreign policy, just like the mustard...

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in a variety of countriesaroundrussiaandnow he is in syria as well and trying to revive russian relationships with countries in the middle east. i think the immediate objective he has in syria is to solidify the quarter on the mediterranean coast where he has his airbase and the only naval base left in the mediterranean. he would like to shore up his allies. at the very least, he wants to make sure they are not thrown under the bus by other regime until he has some better sense of the way forward. his objective is to keep the naval and air base. beyond that, you once to solidify his grip, which has increasingly.d keep a syrianeast state. cannot be part of the long-run solution and we should not be quick to oust him. chairman mccain: so the u.s. should do what the response to this significant military buildup? gen. petraeus: we should not go in league with this. should not think we can partner with russia and iran against isis. isis,sia wanted to fight they could've have joined the 60 plus member coalition that general allen has together and help drop bombs on isis. they have som

in a variety of countries around russia and now he is in syria as well and trying to revive russian relationships with countries in the middle east. i think the immediate objective he has in syria is to solidify the quarter on the mediterranean coast where he has his airbase and the only naval base left in the mediterranean. he would like to shore up his allies. at the very least, he wants to make sure they are not thrown under the bus by other regime until he has some better sense of the way...

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, or aresurgentrussia, arevolutionary iran, or an islam that is incompatible with peace. we see an argument made that the only strength that matters for the united states is bellicose words and shows of military force, that cooperation and diplomacy will not work. as president of the united states, i am mindful of the dangers that we face. they cross my desk every morning. i lead the strongest military that the world has ever known, and i will never hesitate to protect my country or our allies, unilaterally and by force where necessary. but i stand before you today believing in my core that we, the nations of the world, cannot return to the old ways of conflict and coercion. we cannot look backwards. we live in an integrated world, one in which we all have a stake in each other's success. we cannot turn back those forces of integration. no nation in this assembly can insulate itself from the threat of terrorism, or the risk of financial contagion, the flow of migrants, or the danger of a warming planet. the disorder we see is not driven solely by competition between nations or a

, or a resurgent russia, a revolutionary iran, or an islam that is incompatible with peace. we see an argument made that the only strength that matters for the united states is bellicose words and shows of military force, that cooperation and diplomacy will not work. as president of the united states, i am mindful of the dangers that we face. they cross my desk every morning. i lead the strongest military that the world has ever known, and i will never hesitate to protect my country or our...

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to greater russian involvement. there's no doubtthatrussiahasbeen a principal funder and supplier throughout this entire terrible episode. so we are facing the collapse of syria, the survival thus far of the assad regime, although it clearly has much less to govern than it did when this started. the open, ungoverned areas that are hosting terrorist groups and the continuing commitment from iran and russia to propping up assad. so i was the principal negotiator on the geneva 2012 agreement which russia signed onto, which laid out a pathway to a political solution. it wasn't very long until russia reneged on what they had signed, but i think it still provides a very credible framework for us to keep doing everything we can to, you know, try to push the iranians and the russians in that direction. now, what i do believe is this. you know, the potential threat from the terrorist groups and the chaos in syria can destabilize the region in ways that are bad for iran, and therefore, the higher the pressure is for some kind of reaction to what is going on inside syria and certainly the ef

to greater russian involvement. there's no doubt that russia has been a principal funder and supplier throughout this entire terrible episode. so we are facing the collapse of syria, the survival thus far of the assad regime, although it clearly has much less to govern than it did when this started. the open, ungoverned areas that are hosting terrorist groups and the continuing commitment from iran and russia to propping up assad. so i was the principal negotiator on the geneva 2012 agreement...

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bilateral u.s.-russia relationship that is going on. so i see the northern cities with the spillover issue and also what is going on after the bearing sea and the managing of crises. >> the commandant of the coast guard told me that he is the only one of the service chiefs who can now meet with his counterpart and russia and on the issue of search and rescue, oil spill response, that they the arctic has proposed and pledged to develop jointly, there is still progress going on and they cooperate on the fisheries enforcement along the maritime border in the bearing sea and that as long as they can continue that level of cooperation, it might be one of the confidence building measures. the military aspect again i think is the concern. >> to your point, one of the recommendations in the report. i think the u.s. government policymakers need to assess what this is. we try to scrub the facts and understand what is to mistake, what is not excessive to domestic use. on the security side, the arctic coast guard for an which will be formally launched this fall which will invite the head of the russia

bilateral u.s.-russia relationship that is going on. so i see the northern cities with the spillover issue and also what is going on after the bearing sea and the managing of crises. >> the commandant of the coast guard told me that he is the only one of the service chiefs who can now meet with his counterpart and russia and on the issue of search and rescue, oil spill response, that they the arctic has proposed and pledged to develop jointly, there is still progress going on and they...

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welcome mr. america today. i'm really pleased to see him here. i also want to reiteratethatrussiapaysout a lot of disability payments to ukraine, which is one of the reasons they have an interest there. the primary purpose of the united nations is to prevent nuclear war. i think that should be remembered, and we would have a lot left waste -- lot less waste. guest: a number of the decisions and the legal obligations that are struck by all governments in the united nations have eventually been taken back to the national level and turned into legislation. different countries have different ways of doing this. this has been something that has been particularly difficult for the united states. they have not been able, i think because of the state-federal arrangement, but i am by no means an expert on this, they have not been able to ratify so many of the treatise here in you referred to the u.n. charter -- not that one, but so many theties with regard to rights of women, indigenous people, and so on. somebody other than me would be to explain why that is the case. host: you talk about wh

welcome mr. america today. i'm really pleased to see him here. i also want to reiterate that russia pays out a lot of disability payments to ukraine, which is one of the reasons they have an interest there. the primary purpose of the united nations is to prevent nuclear war. i think that should be remembered, and we would have a lot left waste -- lot less waste. guest: a number of the decisions and the legal obligations that are struck by all governments in the united nations have eventually...

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states continues to be concerned with the ramping up, the escalation of military assetsthatrussiaissending to syria. ais has been the source of number of conversations, not just between secretary kerry in his counterpart, but also secretary carter and his russian counterpart. and our message to the russians in private has been the same message that you have heard me and others deliver in public, which is that we would welcome russia's constructive contribution to the more than 60 nations that are working together to degrade and destroy ultimately isil. the president said last week that the russians are making a losing bet when they doubled down on the assad regime. view of this administration and people around the globe that president assad has lost legitimacy to roll the country, and it is time for them to do. reporter: [indiscernible] russian marines and helicopters, people in the region believe that -- mr. earnest: we have been engaged in conversations with the russians to get a better sense of doubt what their about what-- sense their intentions are, we've made clear in publ

states continues to be concerned with the ramping up, the escalation of military assets that russia is sending to syria. ais has been the source of number of conversations, not just between secretary kerry in his counterpart, but also secretary carter and his russian counterpart. and our message to the russians in private has been the same message that you have heard me and others deliver in public, which is that we would welcome russia's constructive contribution to the more than 60 nations...

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kerry said in london today that military talkswithrussiaregardingsyria are an important next step. i wanted to ask, what are the plans for additional talks with russia, and at what level do you expect them to occur, and what specific issues does the administration believe need to be ironed out? mr. earnest: we have hinted for a couple of days now that we believe there would be some value in some tactical, practical discussions with the russians. about how to advance the goals of our counter-isil operations, and how to ensure the safe conduct of those operations. secretary kerry did have the chance to speak to his russian counterpart today, and they discussed further mechanisms for deacon flexion in syria, -- de-confliction in syria. basically making sure the sil don'tf our anti-i come into contact with russian plans they may have had for syria. i thinkepeat one point is something i have said before but there's repeating -- one point i think is something i have said before but bears repeating, which is that russia has long had a military presence inside syria because they have

kerry said in london today that military talks with russia regarding syria are an important next step. i wanted to ask, what are the plans for additional talks with russia, and at what level do you expect them to occur, and what specific issues does the administration believe need to be ironed out? mr. earnest: we have hinted for a couple of days now that we believe there would be some value in some tactical, practical discussions with the russians. about how to advance the goals of our...

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little bit of history with respecttorussiaandthe former soviet union and syria. syria is the oldest client state in the middle east for the soviet union and now russia. the relationship goes back decades. assad's father cemented that relationship, so the prime military supplier of nuclear technology, supplier of training and equipping of the military in syria was the soviet union and now russia. it was no coincidence, for putinle, that prudent -- and russia negotiated an them to remove chemical weapons which were the former this -- soviet union and russia. relationshipd, old . they are not going to give up easily on that. problem we have got is even in military,he syrian they are kind of crumbling. assad'ss -- a solid -- position in syria continues to erode. think qiagen -- putin has some motivation in trying to rescue the situation before death collapse or host: so the united states is training rebels were trying to fight a sod -- assad. what is this doing to long-term relationship between the united states and russia? there is really nothing new with the united states and russia b

little bit of history with respect to russia and the former soviet union and syria. syria is the oldest client state in the middle east for the soviet union and now russia. the relationship goes back decades. assad's father cemented that relationship, so the prime military supplier of nuclear technology, supplier of training and equipping of the military in syria was the soviet union and now russia. it was no coincidence, for putinle, that prudent -- and russia negotiated an them to remove...

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iceland one handand -- on the and hostile states such as iranandrussiaonthe other. this is integration has been made worse by a failure of u.s. strategy and leadership to shape events in this final part of the world for the better. too often we have confused our friends, encouraged her enemies, this taken in excess of caution for prudence and replace the risk of action with the perils of inaction. iraq and syria one year after the president commenced airstrikes and committed u.s. troops, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and commander of central command have characterized the fighting against isil as a stalemate. isil is consolidating control of its core territories and expanded its control in syria. efforts to retake iraqi cities like most all my falluja, and ramadi have foundered. isil is expanding globally to places like afghanistan, lebanon, yemen, libya, and egypt. this appearance of success only enhances isil's ability to radicalize, recruit, and grow. the obama administration tells us there started working. ultimately -- their strategy is working. the current

iceland one handand -- on the and hostile states such as iran and russia on the other. this is integration has been made worse by a failure of u.s. strategy and leadership to shape events in this final part of the world for the better. too often we have confused our friends, encouraged her enemies, this taken in excess of caution for prudence and replace the risk of action with the perils of inaction. iraq and syria one year after the president commenced airstrikes and committed u.s. troops,...

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region that we might accommodate iran, that we might work with them andnowrussiaandbashar. senator fischer: they challenged our credibility with our secretary of state in syria for example as well. so it goes into the credibility of the area. general petraeus: and credibility matters. i was in asia and australia. it's all about u.s. credibility and what does that mean for the south china sea. does what happen in syria a few years ago have implications for that? the answer is yes, it does. at the end of the day if iran's foreign policy is continued to be dictated by the revolutionary guards cuts force nd enables approximatelies like hezbollah, hamas another one, hoothies with what they're doing and murdering shiah militia and iraq then obviously we have to counter that malign activity. if on the other hand iran changes spots -- whatever changes its approach and so forth, by all means if the conditions change then we should be always alert for opportunities to work with what used to be a former enemy. we've done this throughout our history. i think the chances of that are no

region that we might accommodate iran, that we might work with them and now russia and bashar. senator fischer: they challenged our credibility with our secretary of state in syria for example as well. so it goes into the credibility of the area. general petraeus: and credibility matters. i was in asia and australia. it's all about u.s. credibility and what does that mean for the south china sea. does what happen in syria a few years ago have implications for that? the answer is yes, it does....

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, is something we ought to try. we cannot try until we talk with iranandrussia, andturkey and saudi arabia about making that happen. iran plays a critical role in this. iran must know that a link to a solid is getting them know where. as we know that a link to the moderate syrian opposition, as much as we like it, is giving us nowhere. the process of getting nowhere slow or fast in syria has come to the point where the terrible damage to human life in the diplomatic fatigue could possibly be harnessed as a result of the nuclear agreement into something more useful. a hell of a long shot but we ought to think about that. there are things in the history of our relationship that need cleaning out. it is mistrust and difficulties on both sides. everything from dealing with the shaw some money in escrow to the question of the -- to hostages are all out there and they are important. the president was right to say there is nothing in this agreement that forbids me for taking a tough line with iran that steps over the boundaries, and that has to be part of the process. let me leave it

, is something we ought to try. we cannot try until we talk with iran and russia, and turkey and saudi arabia about making that happen. iran plays a critical role in this. iran must know that a link to a solid is getting them know where. as we know that a link to the moderate syrian opposition, as much as we like it, is giving us nowhere. the process of getting nowhere slow or fast in syria has come to the point where the terrible damage to human life in the diplomatic fatigue could possibly be...

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asay,russiahasa say, china has a say in terms of access, i think a debate about that mechanism for verification is one that could have an impact ovuzt members' decisions, about whether or not this will be effective in preventing iran from obtaining a weapon. >> would -- is there any reason to believe that the international atomic energy agency or the iranian government would make these agreements public, so we would all know what the nature of the inspection regime is, who can come, who can't come, under what conditions? >> and that is why i wrote to the white house asking that they be made public. and i don't see any reason why they shouldn't be so that they can be part of this debate. >> do you know if the administration has asked the international atomic energy agency and the iranian government to make them public? >> i do not know the answer to that. >> i would certainly hope that they would. and if they haven't, to this point, that they do. let me move to another part of the agreement that we know a little bit more about. and that's the easing of sanctions in terms of the

a say, russia has a say, china has a say in terms of access, i think a debate about that mechanism for verification is one that could have an impact ovuzt members' decisions, about whether or not this will be effective in preventing iran from obtaining a weapon. >> would -- is there any reason to believe that the international atomic energy agency or the iranian government would make these agreements public, so we would all know what the nature of the inspection regime is, who can come,...

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notice. they go through a process in which iran and china,andrussiacanblock. the former head of the cia testified in front of the foreign affairs committee that we never believed that the iranians, and arise declared facilities whatever make its way into a weapon. we always believed that work would be done somewhere else in secret. getagain if you cannot international inspectors into parts where they did that work, what makes you think what makes us believe that in the future we will have international inspectors once that is the established premise. go anywhere else, go anywhere else as hayden said requiring consultations between the world powers and a ron takes inspections from the technical level and puts it at the political level which he calls a formula for chaos. ambiguity, and doubt. we do not even know how bad the capitulation was in the side agreements. the capitulation that will undermine the ability to catch iranian cheating. why we are concerned about the way this was negotiated. i will reserve the balance of my time. >> sentiment from california reserves. gentleman from

notice. they go through a process in which iran and china, and russia can block. the former head of the cia testified in front of the foreign affairs committee that we never believed that the iranians, and arise declared facilities whatever make its way into a weapon. we always believed that work would be done somewhere else in secret. getagain if you cannot international inspectors into parts where they did that work, what makes you think what makes us believe that in the future we will have...

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a negotiation partners, green bay,china,russia, germanyand france and along with the rest of the world are looking for the congress of the united states not to embarrass itself and i urge my colleagues to support it. thank you very much and i yield back the balance of my time. >> ms. slaughter, thank you very much. i want to welcome not only miss waters but mr. levin and young chairman of the committee, mr. royce for taking time to be with us today. obviously, without objection, anything in writing will be entered into the record. you know that you're here to provide expert testimony. you recognize that this is a very serious issue and i appreciate each one of you being here today. mr. chairman, you're recognized. >> thank you chairman sessions and thank you ranking member, slaughter. >> that microphone on it. >> i guess i would just start, mr. chairman, with the observation that the premise there that the controlling vote would be the security council vote, which miss slaughter raised, sort of goes against the very intention of the house and senate in passing legislation in the

a negotiation partners, green bay, china, russia, germany and france and along with the rest of the world are looking for the congress of the united states not to embarrass itself and i urge my colleagues to support it. thank you very much and i yield back the balance of my time. >> ms. slaughter, thank you very much. i want to welcome not only miss waters but mr. levin and young chairman of the committee, mr. royce for taking time to be with us today. obviously, without objection,...

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other nuclear powers. friends -- france,britain,russia, china.they have a pretty good understanding of this field and of the challenges. i have appreciated the way in which they and germany, which is the plus one, all came together, all contributed, all work part of this. thisre not just looking at table negotiating. you are looking at what the international community, the p5 was one, -- plus one, negotiated. they are experts. every one of them, and nuclear technology, and ratification, and verification. they are smart people who have spent a lifetime doing this. they have signed off on this agreement. i am joined by two cabinet secretaries, who's helped was absolutely invaluable. i think all of you for the role that congress plays. i was privileged to be the chairman of this committee when we passed the sanctions effort. debate.emember the we passed it unanimously. it played a very significant the in bringing her into table and helping to make it clear that we needed to bring about a serious and productive negotiations with iran. from the day that those talks began, we were crystal

other nuclear powers. friends -- france, britain, russia, china. they have a pretty good understanding of this field and of the challenges. i have appreciated the way in which they and germany, which is the plus one, all came together, all contributed, all work part of this. thisre not just looking at table negotiating. you are looking at what the international community, the p5 was one, -- plus one, negotiated. they are experts. every one of them, and nuclear technology, and ratification, and...

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russiaisdegrading and the isil.g -- defeating the approach of supporting a regime that has helped fuel the rise of isil is a misguided approach. it is not the approach we will take. >> michael gordon from the new york times. michael: i would like to follow , jonathan question remarked on the russian military moves, but in the diplomatic i would like to asked related questions. the russians sometimes and suggested they are not wedded to a sod -- asad. and your experience has there ever been a serious proposal by the russians to work with the states women i towards a political transition. have they ever seriously proposed that? in the foreign ministers call with secretary kerry yesterday, they apparently floated the notion of military talks between russia and united situation. the syria do you think that would be a useful step to take at this juncture because the russian's assumption is they would go after the islamic state. samantha: thank you. let me say a couple of things about russia's foster towards political talks. ture towardspos political talks. they called for the creation of a

russia is degrading and the isil.g -- defeating the approach of supporting a regime that has helped fuel the rise of isil is a misguided approach. it is not the approach we will take. >> michael gordon from the new york times. michael: i would like to follow , jonathan question remarked on the russian military moves, but in the diplomatic i would like to asked related questions. the russians sometimes and suggested they are not wedded to a sod -- asad. and your experience has there ever...

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france, not the death of great britain, not the deathofrussiaorchina, but the death of america. mr. royce: i yield an additional 30 seconds. mr. donovan: when is america to stand alone. i went to israel recently and sat with the prime minister who told us this deal guarantees in 15 years iran will have a nuclear arsenal. the supreme leader tweeted that israel won't exist in 25 years. i visited the holocaust museum and like many people who weren't alive during that tragedy, why didn't anyone stop this? my fear is someday people will ask why didn't america stop iran? this is a bad deal for america and bad deal for israel and bad deal for the world. i yield. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentleman from california reserves. the gentleman from maryland. mr. cummings: may i inquire how much time has. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from maryland has 14 minutes remaining and the gentleman from california has 27 minutes. mr. cummings: i yield to the gentleman from kentucky, mr. yarmouth. mr. yarmuth: i rise in support of this historic agreement with

france, not the death of great britain, not the death of russia or china, but the death of america. mr. royce: i yield an additional 30 seconds. mr. donovan: when is america to stand alone. i went to israel recently and sat with the prime minister who told us this deal guarantees in 15 years iran will have a nuclear arsenal. the supreme leader tweeted that israel won't exist in 25 years. i visited the holocaust museum and like many people who weren't alive during that tragedy, why didn't...

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as a country like china. is it safe to assume that a countrylikerussiagiveits capabilities to someone like iran into the cyber world? >> this might be left better to a closed discussion. rep. miller: somebody talked about attribution also. how de we distinguish between state-sponsored hacker attack and an individual? >> the way we do in almost any other circumstance. we see what facts we have two connect -- to connect the individual at the keyboard to the crime. sometimes it is the tools we use and the facts. there is always a human being at the keyboard. that can be tied to a state actor. >> we will compare the activity that we have observed with that we have observed historically. looking at previous connections. rep. miller: most of the attacks designed to glean information or to disrupt? dir. clapper: the terminology of "attack" vs "gleaning information." to this point, it is the disruption of the website. but more commonly, purloining information. i believe the next push on the envelope is going to be the manipulation or deletion of data, which will compromise its integri

as a country like china. is it safe to assume that a country like russia give its capabilities to someone like iran into the cyber world? >> this might be left better to a closed discussion. rep. miller: somebody talked about attribution also. how de we distinguish between state-sponsored hacker attack and an individual? >> the way we do in almost any other circumstance. we see what facts we have two connect -- to connect the individual at the keyboard to the crime. sometimes it is...

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, and captain samantha, a european space agency astronaut. for the newsief aencyofrussia, tass,reporter for the gray sheet, tom mcmahon, vice president of advocacy and public affairs for the association of unmanned vehicle systems international and a national press club board member. welcome to you all. [applause] john: i also want to welcome our c-span and public radio audiences, our live audiences watching around the world on the internet. you can follow the action on twitter. c live. #, np that is on twitter. one of the first calls made from document club, and we the moment, and it also marks the moment a high-ranking official was photographed at the national press club, he guessed it was then secretary of state william jennings bryan who made that historic call, san francisco, and earlier this year, vince ate a speech here, doing some work for nasa, and asked the question, what would be the 2015 equivalent of that 1915 phone call? conversations that resulted from that question with some cooperation from nasa led us here today for another first for the national press club,

, and captain samantha, a european space agency astronaut. for the newsief aency of russia, tass, reporter for the gray sheet, tom mcmahon, vice president of advocacy and public affairs for the association of unmanned vehicle systems international and a national press club board member. welcome to you all. [applause] john: i also want to welcome our c-span and public radio audiences, our live audiences watching around the world on the internet. you can follow the action on twitter. c live. #,...

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travelingtorussia. foxnewsgot a scoop, they literally disclosed the flight number and the flight times of the plane that he had taken to moscow in violation of the national travel ban. the ministration, when asked for several days, said we don't know. it was a caricature of looking the other way. without hyperbole, literally, as they were on the hill saying they will double down on sentient enforcement in order to provide the emotional buttressing to those who are concerned about iranian expansion. after this, there is nothing left. the reason why they have made to meet these commitments to congress, the latest being the pushback and double down argument is because congress has been in a position to jam up what is a bad deal, if lawmakers believe that the deal is bad. and of course i bipartisan majority believes it is bad. again there will be no accountability, but instead of pushing back we end syriar instance, feeding to russian coordination. david: i can't speak to those issues. therld just caution that e's a lot of positive things in this agreement. and sure, the duration is not on

traveling to russia. foxnews got a scoop, they literally disclosed the flight number and the flight times of the plane that he had taken to moscow in violation of the national travel ban. the ministration, when asked for several days, said we don't know. it was a caricature of looking the other way. without hyperbole, literally, as they were on the hill saying they will double down on sentient enforcement in order to provide the emotional buttressing to those who are concerned about iranian...

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is i think we're liking to see iran strengthen lynxwithrussiaandchina which may share an interest in challenging the international order which the united states and the west have -- have led for some time. obviously that challenge is playing out not just here in iran but it's playing out in places like ukraine and the south china sea and so forth. iran is much more likely to corporate with that broader effort than it is to try to draw close to the united states which is a much more difficult lift in a sense within the iranian system. so i think that at the same time also we could bear in mind aside here that iran has serious international challenges. this has been alluded to. but remember, lifting sanctions certainly is very helpful to iran. but in a sense it's not the only problem that iran faces internationally. i think there are significant political divisions within the regime. there are significant economic go beyond the sanctions. it's hard to say what direction those things could go. that could be a fill up for a positive change for reform or it could be the reverse. we've

is i think we're liking to see iran strengthen lynx with russia and china which may share an interest in challenging the international order which the united states and the west have -- have led for some time. obviously that challenge is playing out not just here in iran but it's playing out in places like ukraine and the south china sea and so forth. iran is much more likely to corporate with that broader effort than it is to try to draw close to the united states which is a much more...

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pentagon would tell you they would say aresurgentrussiaundervladimir putin. if you look under -- at the assessments that come from others who are more focused on the middle east they would tell you the rise of isis. is perhaps the vigorous challenge we face now although not necessarily one that can reach the united states. i would like to ask each of you to tell us which of those you believe but more importantly, tell us what the fact we are getting -- why we are getting such a different assessment, what we should draw from that about the current state of how we assess intelligence threats. >> thank you and i appreciate the opportunity to be here with my colleague am a adam schiff. party to start out to be -- bipartisan. it is behind closed doors so we do not have a lot of the political banter you will see in public hearings that you see on the other committees. the politics we try to check at the door. this is one of the most important roles that we both play in this town and for the united states of america to look over 17 agencies, that is very difficult. we looked at this

pentagon would tell you they would say a resurgent russia under vladimir putin. if you look under -- at the assessments that come from others who are more focused on the middle east they would tell you the rise of isis. is perhaps the vigorous challenge we face now although not necessarily one that can reach the united states. i would like to ask each of you to tell us which of those you believe but more importantly, tell us what the fact we are getting -- why we are getting such a different...

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office, he looked out at the threats across america and there were four hard-targetthreats.russia, china,north korea and iran. and the situation in iran was particial rly worrisome because there was a recurrent belief that iran was developing nuclear weapons. i've heard critics say, well, what difference would it make? how foolish would it be for them to launch a weapon. that country will pay dearly for a wreckless decision. but the fear that the president had, and we shared, was that if iran developed a nuclear weapon in the middle east, it would trigger an arms race and many other countries in that volatile region on the world would seek to develop their own nuclear weapons and it was incredible. there was also a concern that one of the first targets of iran would be our close alley and friend, the nation of israel. it's easy to reach that conclusion when you read and hear the rhetoric of the right wing in iran, which will not recognize israel's right to exist. so president obama set out to do something about it. it was clear from our experience that sending in american troops

office, he looked out at the threats across america and there were four hard-target threats. russia, china, north korea and iran. and the situation in iran was particial rly worrisome because there was a recurrent belief that iran was developing nuclear weapons. i've heard critics say, well, what difference would it make? how foolish would it be for them to launch a weapon. that country will pay dearly for a wreckless decision. but the fear that the president had, and we shared, was that if...

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bringingrussiaintothe g8 did not exactly make it less aggressive or expansionist. if anything, it said putin's pretensions. there is no guarantee that economic independence with the state will produce the desired promoter. -- desired behavior. after 1945, europe became much more economically interdependent and look how it has led to a prolonged. -- a prolonged time of peace. >> russia has taught us an example of that. iran is another. the supreme leader has already said that while he supports the deal, he reiterates that the iranian government, is 180 degrees different. we are told that this deal had to be accepted because there was no other approach available. i simply do not believe this to be true. iran came to the table because sanctions were becoming an enormous burden economically to the extent that it was beginning to threaten political stability. maintaining sections until such time as i ran was willing to accept a tougher deal, more suitable to the p5 plus one, was certainly an option. it was not the option that was chosen. likewise, we are told that the snap back sanctio

bringing russia into the g8 did not exactly make it less aggressive or expansionist. if anything, it said putin's pretensions. there is no guarantee that economic independence with the state will produce the desired promoter. -- desired behavior. after 1945, europe became much more economically interdependent and look how it has led to a prolonged. -- a prolonged time of peace. >> russia has taught us an example of that. iran is another. the supreme leader has already said that while he...

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power plant to iran and china's talking about it now, i'msurerussiahasbeen, you say, look, all the fuel has to be provided for that reactor for the lifetime of the reactor. you eliminate any motivation for iran to produce the enriched uranium or even have an argument to produce the enriched uranium for those reactors. it is going to be hard enough to get a program large enough, but you could simply say that a condition of supply is that all -- condition of suppliers is that all the fuel is provided for that reactor, would not be provided indigenously. if iran wants reactors, it will sign that deal. and i can give other examples where you can actually create policies or actions now that can , in a sense, mitigate the weaknesses of this deal. lee: omri, did you want to follow up? among other things, i would like to ask you to, politically speaking, what are the mechanisms that you think have led to -- i just want to go through one more round and open up to a question or two. what are the political mechanisms or exigencies that have led to this moment where we wound up with this agree

power plant to iran and china's talking about it now, i'm sure russia has been, you say, look, all the fuel has to be provided for that reactor for the lifetime of the reactor. you eliminate any motivation for iran to produce the enriched uranium or even have an argument to produce the enriched uranium for those reactors. it is going to be hard enough to get a program large enough, but you could simply say that a condition of supply is that all -- condition of suppliers is that all the fuel is...

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, when countries like iran orpotentiallyrussiawould-- could possibly move in and shore him up. it could extend things for a bit of time. in a post-assad environment, we have to consider that there are a number of elements there that will continue to be there, will continue to fight. al nusra is one of those elements. if there are remnants of isil there, they'll continue to fight. it will require some sort of stability force to go in and make sure that whatever the transition government looks like, it has the ability to do its job. senator lee: thank you, general austin. i see my time has expired. senator reed: on behalf of senator mccain, i recognize the senator. senator kaine: let me start with a compliment. then i will refer to to the form and express some major concern. i was in urbil, kuwait, jordan, turkey in late june and early july, i was in president barzani's office in urbil, and he said if president obama had had not started his bombing campaign we would not be here , today, he meant we the kurd, , kurdistan. he wanted to extend his thanks. however, everywhere else i tra

, when countries like iran or potentially russia would -- could possibly move in and shore him up. it could extend things for a bit of time. in a post-assad environment, we have to consider that there are a number of elements there that will continue to be there, will continue to fight. al nusra is one of those elements. if there are remnants of isil there, they'll continue to fight. it will require some sort of stability force to go in and make sure that whatever the transition government...

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alone. also negotiating this deal was iran andwasrussiaandwas china. true enough. but when it comes to the question of inspections, i do not have the document that indicates how these inspections will be done. but what i do know is what is reported to be the procedure. and what is asserted also by the iranians to be the procedure. and as reported, it is iran, not international inspectors, who will provide the agencies the photos of the locations. it is iran that will provide the agency videos of the locations. it is iran, not international inspectors, who will provide the agency the environmental samples . and it is iran that will use iran's authenticated equipment, not the equipment of the international inspectors. so the point i make again is that one of the reasons we wanted to have the agreement, the side agreement the two side agreements, including the one addressing the 12 questions that have never been answered about the thousand pages of bombwork that the iaea had in its possession that iran supposedly conducted at parchin was to get iran to answer these questions and

alone. also negotiating this deal was iran and was russia and was china. true enough. but when it comes to the question of inspections, i do not have the document that indicates how these inspections will be done. but what i do know is what is reported to be the procedure. and what is asserted also by the iranians to be the procedure. and as reported, it is iran, not international inspectors, who will provide the agencies the photos of the locations. it is iran that will provide the agency...

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, in light of what happened, the u.s. finds this dialoguewithrussia--why you think there is some reason for optimism? mr. earnest: i don't have any more details i can share with you. that thet is notable kind of military to military cooperation that we are seeking at astart is cooperation practical, tactical level. that is obviously different than the kind of military to military cooperation that was in place prior to russia's inappropriate interference in ukraine. our goal is to pursue this to try tocooperation advance the interest of our coalition, and to try to safeguard as much as possible the operations that are underway as part of that mission. switching topics, french diplomats have said that vladimir pugin and other officials are trying to organize world leaders including the president on the day before to talk about climate -- climate change. i know that you haven't formally announced that president's schedule but i'm wondering if you would talk about whether the president would be intending? announcedt: i haven't it yet though we should have more details on that soon. i

, in light of what happened, the u.s. finds this dialogue with russia -- why you think there is some reason for optimism? mr. earnest: i don't have any more details i can share with you. that thet is notable kind of military to military cooperation that we are seeking at astart is cooperation practical, tactical level. that is obviously different than the kind of military to military cooperation that was in place prior to russia's inappropriate interference in ukraine. our goal is to pursue...

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as anexamplerussia, whois selling tremendous missiles to iran -- you know that, ballistic milssles being sold. all of these countries, all of these countries are going to do business with iran. they're going to make lots of money and lots of other things with iran. and we're going to do and we're going to get nothing. nothing. we are led by very, very stupid people. ery, very stupid people. we cannot let it continue. are a country that owes $19 trillion. we lose everywhere. we lose militarily. we can't beat ice sifments give me a break. we can't beat anybody. our vets are being treated horribly. it will change. we will have so much winning if i get elected with the united states. that you may get bored with winning. believe me. i agree, you'll never get bored with winning. we never get bored. we are going to turn this country around. we are going to start winning big on trade, militarily we're going to build up our military. we're going to have such a strong military that nobody -- nobody -- is going to mess with us. we're not going to have to use it. i really, really appr

as an example russia, who is selling tremendous missiles to iran -- you know that, ballistic milssles being sold. all of these countries, all of these countries are going to do business with iran. they're going to make lots of money and lots of other things with iran. and we're going to do and we're going to get nothing. nothing. we are led by very, very stupid people. ery, very stupid people. we cannot let it continue. are a country that owes $19 trillion. we lose everywhere. we lose...

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president putin. to convene some way, after the nuclear thing is approved,whererussiaandthe nine states can try to lead the world in italy. the united states thwarted any possibility of president assad being involved in the future. the carter center to the opposite position. we thought they should have included president assad. but russia and iran have supported the assad government, and now isis has taken over a good portion of the eastern part of syria. to deal with the war in syria would be the first major step, and i have my own ideas about what to do. our peace program is leading, in many ways, the constant effort to resolve some arrangement whereby there can be a general cease-fire, and orderly government process set up. we meet with the norwegians, the united nations and fellow leaders. even those involved in the war itself. trying to bring this about. we also have a mapping program that the carter center has originated, that lets the united nations and others know where the rapidly changing forces are located in syria. to deal with syrian war and peace is the first s

president putin. to convene some way, after the nuclear thing is approved, where russia and the nine states can try to lead the world in italy. the united states thwarted any possibility of president assad being involved in the future. the carter center to the opposite position. we thought they should have included president assad. but russia and iran have supported the assad government, and now isis has taken over a good portion of the eastern part of syria. to deal with the war in syria...

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energy system, working withchina,russia, andindia. we can do it. we can move to energy sufficiency. for the sake of our kids, that is what we have to do. [applause] talk about american needs, there is something beyond comprehension. i don't understand it. i don't understand how, in an incredibly competitive global economy, hundreds of thousands youngght, qualified people are unable to get into college, only for one reason. that is their families like the money. that is crazy. productive tor the future of america. that is why i have introduced legislation and will fight for, as president, to make every public college and university in this country tuition free. [applause] [cheering] it is not a radical idea. it is common economic sense to say, when young people or people of any age, need education, they should be able to get that education, regardless of the income of their family. [applause] that legislation also deals with a travesty that millions of americans are experiencing today in outrageously high student debt and outrageously high interest rates. now, to lower i

energy system, working with china, russia, and india. we can do it. we can move to energy sufficiency. for the sake of our kids, that is what we have to do. [applause] talk about american needs, there is something beyond comprehension. i don't understand it. i don't understand how, in an incredibly competitive global economy, hundreds of thousands youngght, qualified people are unable to get into college, only for one reason. that is their families like the money. that is crazy. productive tor...

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back to the bargaining table alone. ourpartners,russia, chinaand the european three, have made it very clear. many in congress may not be satisfied, many in this country may not be satisfied, but the rest of the world has indicated that it is. in whichno scenario sanctions will be strengthened. just examine the track record of the past 36 years when we failed repeatedly to generate sufficient political will under -- among even our closest allies. washington can try to up the and weth new measures, may even see a little bit of additional compliance for a while. ultimately, an attempt to intensify pressure without the coalition will fail, at no small cost to america's own economy. russia and china have their own experience with sanctions. the rest of the international community sees no interest in perpetual economic pressure on tehran. there is the military's is -- solution. we cannot bomb away their infrastructure and know-how. even the most ambitious airstrikes would set it back by maybe three years. there would be no doubt that it would incite a much more determined effort. there

back to the bargaining table alone. our partners, russia, china and the european three, have made it very clear. many in congress may not be satisfied, many in this country may not be satisfied, but the rest of the world has indicated that it is. in whichno scenario sanctions will be strengthened. just examine the track record of the past 36 years when we failed repeatedly to generate sufficient political will under -- among even our closest allies. washington can try to up the and weth new...

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weaponsfromrussia, europe,frankly the united states if we wanted to sell it to them, because we lifted the arms embargo against them. south korea, the united arab emirates asked us to enrich uranium, friends of the united states and we told them know because of our dedication to keeping nuclear weapons out of the wrong hands. so we denied our best friends the right to enrich uranium and we're getting ready to give it to our worst enemy. this deal will in effect end the nuclear nonproliferation treaty for the world because we can never deny anybody the right to enrich uranium in the future. with that i urge the rejection of this deal, and i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from california reserves. the gentleman from michigan is recognized. . mr. conyers: i'm pleased to recognize the gentleman from washington, mr. mcdermott, for two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from washington is recognized for two minutes. -- mcdermott: mr. speaker the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from washington is recognized for three minute

weapons from russia, europe, frankly the united states if we wanted to sell it to them, because we lifted the arms embargo against them. south korea, the united arab emirates asked us to enrich uranium, friends of the united states and we told them know because of our dedication to keeping nuclear weapons out of the wrong hands. so we denied our best friends the right to enrich uranium and we're getting ready to give it to our worst enemy. this deal will in effect end the nuclear...

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russiaisdoing erdogan a favor in turkey by assisting assad. and i wanted to comment, but the other three parts of this are, what is the saudi interest question mark what is tehran's -- what is the saudi interests? what if tehran's interest? and what is iran's footprint in syria? guest: let me try to go back on that. nato is pretty straightforward. the u.s. is leading a multinational coalition with nato is backing up. turkey, of course, is part of nato, which confiscates their role. i described earlier some mixed interests they have there, including on the refugee issue, which is probably the single overwhelming security situation for them. has a positive relationship with russia at this point. i think the russians are looking to continue to maintain turkish support for their transit operations going into syria. obviously, if the turks said no and try to block that, it back could make life very difficult for the russians. the iranians, they have been providing support for what they view as part of this broad shiite alliance in the form of the assad regime. but on the other hand, the

russia is doing erdogan a favor in turkey by assisting assad. and i wanted to comment, but the other three parts of this are, what is the saudi interest question mark what is tehran's -- what is the saudi interests? what if tehran's interest? and what is iran's footprint in syria? guest: let me try to go back on that. nato is pretty straightforward. the u.s. is leading a multinational coalition with nato is backing up. turkey, of course, is part of nato, which confiscates their role. i...

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. he points out that the united states european union, britain, franceandrussiarecognizedagain and again iran's right to develop advanced centrifuges. what could be five-sometimes eager than the capacity -- bigger band the old ones. concludes that -- he -- that the international committee is establishing a new iranian nuclear program which will be immeasurably more iterful and dangerous than process or. -- it's predecessor. estimate this. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you very much. thank you for being here. secretary carter, you were in the middle east last week. can you tell us what you heard from our allies in the middle east about how they felt about this agreement, specifically saudi arabia and israel -- obviously we have heard what netanyahu has said. israel, primeith minister netanyahu was very clear as he has been publicly in his opposition to the deal. we discussed that and we discussed many other things as well. has the laws activity -- 's activities, i visited there, the cyber security corporation, other regional issues, we discussed many topics. but he was very

. he points out that the united states european union, britain, france and russia recognized again and again iran's right to develop advanced centrifuges. what could be five-sometimes eager than the capacity -- bigger band the old ones. concludes that -- he -- that the international committee is establishing a new iranian nuclear program which will be immeasurably more iterful and dangerous than process or. -- it's predecessor. estimate this. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you very...

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. occurs.implementation no perfect agreement. we said that from the experience ,f dealingwithrussia, ukrainebelarus over a 20-your period of time. they weren't treaties. start 1 treaty, start 2 treaty, and even the new start treaty, erryh secretary k was chairman for the committee. and they are important treaties. but more important really is the follow through. with regard to the russian , i go to, for 20 years russia at least once a year, often to kazakhstan and ukraine. it is really something to visit with russians, something to make sure that the best was happening, namely the nuclear weapons were being destroyed. over the course of that 20 years, 700 or weapons. the me mention that these weapons were on large missiles. and several could go out in different directions. they were targeted not only at all the military installations, but at our major cities. i was appalled on time to find that indianapolis was on the target list. i served as mayor for eight years oblivious to the fact that we can have been obliterated at anytime. and this is why i took seriously and i'm very grate

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with me, never wenttorussiawithoutstopping there to get analysis on those issues. in any event, i am very honored to be asked to introduce your speaker, who has been my friend for 33 years. senate democratic leader harry reid. we have worked together since he and i came to the house in 1983, we sat next to each other for four years on the house foreign affairs committee before he was elected to the senate in 1986. as you know, the senators serve as majority leader from 2007- 2014. he remains the democratic leader during this, his last term in congress. appreciate ist the skill that goes into garnering the mantle of leader and majority leader in the u.s. senate and holding onto it. senator reid's commitment to a progressive agenda, his knowledge of the issues, and the parliamentary rules -- his attention to detail and his ability to handle the outsized personalities of his colleagues are legendary. he fights tenaciously for that which he believes, and he produces the deft compromise when that is the only sensible course. relevant to the discussion this morning, senator reid, dur

with me, never went to russia without stopping there to get analysis on those issues. in any event, i am very honored to be asked to introduce your speaker, who has been my friend for 33 years. senate democratic leader harry reid. we have worked together since he and i came to the house in 1983, we sat next to each other for four years on the house foreign affairs committee before he was elected to the senate in 1986. as you know, the senators serve as majority leader from 2007- 2014. he...

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restrictions on weapon sales and imports. in fact, they're negotiatingwithrussiaforthe sale of s.s. 300 and 400 missiles. and iran also believes that not nly has it not agreed to inspect itself it will refuse to allow anyone else to inspect it. these are from their own statements in recent days. iran's public statement december claire, mr. speaker, that all sanctions will be lifted. under iran's interpretation and even in the stated language of the agreement this includes those such as the islamic revolutionary guard corps. they're in the agroment. they're listed. and the kudz force, the same organization that we just itemized all these terrorist acts, both of these groups, two of the most reprehensible terrorist organizations in the world are in this agreement were sanctions to be lifted. read them, annex two sanctions list. i have. this flies in the face of our president's own statements and reassurances. under secretary of -- undersecretary of treasury zubin assures us sanctions on these organizations will be maintained. secretary lew goes further stating that we will not be pro

restrictions on weapon sales and imports. in fact, they're negotiating with russia for the sale of s.s. 300 and 400 missiles. and iran also believes that not nly has it not agreed to inspect itself it will refuse to allow anyone else to inspect it. these are from their own statements in recent days. iran's public statement december claire, mr. speaker, that all sanctions will be lifted. under iran's interpretation and even in the stated language of the agreement this includes those such as the...