Are illegal aliens the new soccer moms?

posted at 2:39 pm on October 9, 2007 by Bryan

Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s chief strategist, Mark Penn, told a British magazine last week that illegal immigrants “may be the most powerful political force in the country.”

In an interview with The Spectator magazine, Penn said, “The most powerful political force in [America], and the most important voting bloc in the upcoming elections, may not even be able to vote — but their cousins can. And that may make all the difference.’

The heat under the great melting pot has been turned up, and it’s about to boil over. That was the feeling Monday night in this city’s public works building, where more than 300 people crammed into a hot room to speak their minds about illegal immigration.

State Sen. Jim Ritchie, R-Spartanburg, is the chairman of an illegal immigration reform study committee and hosted the event. Other meetings will follow in upcoming weeks in Pendleton and Charleston.

Monday was a night full of anger, of fear, of feeling discouraged and fed up and of the occasional conspiracy theory – but mostly anger.

“It is an issue that affects every level of society – and we have to do whatever it takes to stop this illegal alien invasion,” said Roan Garcia-Quintana of Mauldin, director of the Americans Have Had Enough Coalition. “Please don’t allow the greed of the few to affect the lives of the many.”

Americans Have Had Enough Coalition is a 501(c)4 non-profit foundation established in 2006 and dedicated to addressing issues with which Americans want to deal, but yet our elected officials tend to ignore.

Or, in the case of Mr. “Soccer Mom” Penn, actively make worse for the purpose of exploiting divisions and getting their bosses elected.

Back to the South Carolina meeting on Monday night. When it comes to border security, voters aren’t fooled by political games and they’re increasingly less intimidated by cries of “racism” and the proliferation of MSM illegal alien sob stories.

Senate President Pro Tem Glenn McConnell has called for a Constitutional Convention to address the problem, though Gov. Mark Sanford’s office issued a statement Monday urging lawmakers to take up statewide reform before starting a process that could take months and ultimately bear no fruit.

“We don’t have a problem with the U.S. Constitution,” said Ken Porter of Holly Springs. “We have a problem because the federal government refuses to enforce the laws we have on the books.”

That was met with thunderous applause. Legal immigrants also see through the political smoke and mirrors.

A handful of legal immigrants spoke in defense of Ritchie’s reform plan.

“We are losing who we are – a real nation, with a real culture, and our own language,” said Miriam Alonso Miles, a Cuban-American from Miami. “I am Latin. But I want to be a part of the great melting pot. I do not want to be someone who divides this country.”

Mark Penn and his boss, evidently, do want to be people who divide this country.

As a senator, Clinton denounced past efforts to crack down on illegal immigration.

In 2006, she criticized a House Republican bill that would have imposed harsher penalties for undocumented workers, charging that some Republicans were trying to create a “police state” to round up illegal immigrants. She later charged that the bill would “criminalize the Good Samaritan and probably even Jesus himself,” using that line again in a debate sponsored by the Spanish-language channel Univision in September.

Immigration enforcement polls well enough that the two recent attempts at passing sweeping amnesty, attempts which had heavy White House support as well as the backing of big guns in both parties, failed spectacularly. If Mark Penn and Hillary Clinton really think they can win by courting the relatives of illegal aliens, they’re more beatable than I thought.

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Immigration enforcement polls well enough that the two recent attempts at passing sweeping amnesty, attempts which had heavy White House support as well as the backing of big guns in both parties, failed spectacularly. If Mark Penn and Hillary Clinton really think they can win by courting the relatives of illegal aliens, they’re more beatable than I thought.

Once again, I must quote the dog in ‘The Far Side’ cartoon that tries to lure the cat into the dryer with “cat fud”:

Seriously though, this is the pattern. They succeeded in doing it with the Black vote in the 60’s why not do it again?

What they aren’t counting on is a Black vote backlash. As Hispanics become of voting age in majority Black districts Black politicians will NEVER see elected office. The Black/brown coalition is a Tavis Smiley/Al sharpton pipe dream. Republicans need to seize the oppotunity. Let it blow up in Hillary and the Democrats face. If Republicans could draw 20 more percent of the Black vote swing states would be completely redefined. Florida, Iowa, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin nice and red, and California is back in play.

Microcampaigning is all the rage but really short sighted in the long run.

The idea is that you target message select groups to get them to vote the way you want to. Well and good except it assues that you can create and identify all groups out there.

Its the typical lazy beltway thinking that you can sit in washington and fire emails and create groups that only exist on your paperwork.

They dems won in 2006 based on several factors. Republicans gave them impression that they had abandoned their core values of law and order and being pro family and fiscally conservative. That and they seems incompetant after Katrina

Dems have relearned the old school of politics to a degree. The old machine politics of the 19th and early 20th century. You create groups and fund them and turn them out for elections. Republicans still think all you need to do for elections is raise money and put up TV ads.

The republican party will start doing better the day they give up the dinosaur politics they are pursing with massive emails and phone banks.

Democrats treat politics like a business. Republicans treat it like its a high school play

“F**k off! It’s enough that I have to see you s*it-kickers every day,
I’m not going to talk to you too!! Just do your G*damn job and keep your mouth shut.”
(From the book “American Evita” by Christopher Anderson, p. 90 – Hillary to her State Trooper bodyguards after one of them
greeted her with “Good morning.”

“You f**king idiot.”
(From the book “Crossfire” p. 84 – Hillary to a State Trooper who was
driving her to an event.)

“If you want to remain on this detail, get your f**king *ss over here
and grab those bags!”
(From the book “The First Partner” p. 259 – Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because
he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.)

“Get f**ked! Get the f**k out of my way!!! Get out of my face!!!”
(From the book “Hillary’s Scheme” p. 89 – Hillary’s various comments to her Secret Service detail agents.)

“Stay the f**k back, stay the f**k away from me! Don’t come within ten
yards of me, or else! Just f**king do as I say, Okay!!!?”
(From the book “Unlimited Access”, by Clinton FBI Agent in Charge, Gary Aldrige, p. 139 – Hillary screaming at he Secret Service detail.)

“Many of you are well enough off that [President Bush’s] tax cuts may
have helped you. We’re saying that for America to get back on track,
we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We’re going to have to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”
(Hillary grandstanding at a fund raising speech in
San Francisco; SFGate.com 6/28/2004.)

“Why do I have to keep proving to people that I am not a liar?!”
(From the book “The Survivor,” by John Harris, p.382
– Hillary in her 2000 Senate campaign)

“Where’s the miserable c*ck sucker?” (From the book “The Truth About Hillary” by Edward Klein, p. 5 – Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer)

“Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those sunglasses. We need to go back!”
(From the book “Dereliction of Duty” p. 71-72 -Hillary to Marine One
helicopter pilot to turn back while en route to Air Force One.)

“What are you doing inviting these people into my home? These people are our enemies! They are trying to destroy us!”
(From the book “The Survivor” by John Harris, p. 99- Hillary screaming
to an aide, when she found out that some Republicans
had been invited to the Clinton White House)

“Come on Bill, put your d*ck up! You can’t f**k her
here!!”
(From the book “Inside The White House” by Ronald
Kessler, p. 243 – Hillary to Gov. Clinton when she spots him talking
with an attractive female at an Arkansas political rally)

“You know, I’m going to start thanking the woman who cleans the restroom in the building I work in. I’m going to start thinking of her as a human being”
-Hillary Clinton
(From the book “The Case Against Hillary Clinton” by
Peggy Noonan, p. 55)

I’ve been telling people since March that Iraq will not be THE issue next year, it will be illegal immigration. The tide has definitely turned, people aren’t falling for rhetoric anymore. This issue really isn’t that complicated.

You do have to hand it to Hillary though, she isn’t trying to hide too much.

I’m afraid I see way too much optimism in this thread on Hillary inability to spin this issue. We’ve heard very little in the broader media about the attitudes VinceP at 3:19 highlights. I don’t have high hopes that this issue will make it through the Clinton Spin Tornado any better.

My current take is that about the best that will come out of it is that some of the Social Cons who were thinking of sitting this one out might change their minds because of this issue.

“Divide and reconquista” – Bodacious headline writing, Mr. P. That gives AP a run for his money as Most Bodacious Headline Writer in the ‘sphere.

If Mark Penn and Hillary Clinton really think they can win by courting the relatives of illegal aliens, they’re more beatable than I thought.

They absolutely are beatable.

There are now a large number of one issue voters that transcends political party in this country and the stupidest thing Republicans can do is to let themselves be perceived as no different than Democrats on immigration.

Wow. The First-Lady-Presidential-Hopeful sure has one potty mouth! Didn’t we condemn Teraaaaaayza Heinz-Kerry on that? Hmmm. Wait til I tell my mom… she’d NEVER vote for a potty mouth! (Which means, I would never get her vote either!)

The only thing the democrat party “had” was Iraq. Senor Boosh held firm as did most Republicans, so that issue is finally going away. The only issues left are illegal immigration, abortion, and taxes none of which the democrat party is on the same side as Americans in general.

Lets hope there are enough legal Hispanic immigrants that did it right to take a strong position on the cheaters. I know plenty of legal immigrant decedents that hate illegal immigration more than me and the horizontal anger in the Latino American block is strong.

The illegals need to be gone, and the pipeline closed. At least I know tome Texas born Hispanics that feel that way.