dude you are arguing with people who watch television. basically they know **** about other cultures except what they get to hear. plus this people here are acting like they are the biggest supporters of science and **** but in fact they are just praising it in front of their screens

Palestine started this ******** - they can deal with what they get.
On the other hand, they do have it pretty bad relative to Israel.

But in the end, both countries are having innocent people die for absolutely no reason. How about we stop playing toward either side, sympathizing about whose dying more brutally or in more mass, and start trying to reach a middle ground where nobody will die.

I'm 100% pro-Palestinian. The Pali's were there first, and with the help of the UK, Pali's were kicked out of their own homeland. When they decided that they weren't going to abide by the Zionist demands, Palestinian women and children are being blown into pieces as a part of Israeli war crimes.

Jesus Christ - it's you again. Sorry, I didn't see your username at first, so I didn't realize there's just no hope trying to rationalize.

And, buddy, hate to break it to you - but even if what you say is true (which it is most definitely not, see PopKornKing's comment), are you honestly justifying mindless war and innocent people dying because "oh someone else stole my stuff so I might as well cause as much collateral as possible until I get my way!"

cant rationalize.....because only by bowing down and accepting americans opinion can be a sign of rationality...right

**** the lies the media tell you, the palestinians are a dominated people, they dont have a country of their own because israel has their army in it 24/7 and shoot people at random under suspicions
you cannot possibly tell me they have no reason to feel upset by that,....and since israel wont let them have any real means to fight, all they can do is blow things up and hope israel gets tired of the casualties and leaves

> The opinion that stressing the relationships of halve the world, teetering the world on WWIII, and murdering countless innocent people who have nothing to do with any of this is not the rational option here? Please, sir, tell me how the Hell you can possibly rationalize this kind of behavior. Just because of a little land that was taken from a country that wasn't real by people who are probably dead by now and that has been been largely given back to try and stop the mindless fighting.

> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You ignorant twat, none of what you said is even remotely true. Israel doesn't occupy other countries, Israel aren't war-mongerers, modern armies have strict conventions they must follow - and killing a civilian (or even an enemy) is grounds for heavy investigation by a third party, Israel didn't start the murdering - Palestinians did.

> What kind of logic is that? Again, "I can't get my way, so I'll cause all the collateral possible until somebody pays attention to my screaming". You do realize that if it comes down to it and war gets declared, the middle east will be left in smolders and the biggest and deadliest war humanity has ever seen can possibly be initiated? Again, are you seriously justifying that over some stupid land. Who cares if you're "Israeli domain", they're a modern and free country and you can believe and do whatever the Hell you want as long as you don't hurt or strip the rights of others.

there wont be a WW3 because the rothschild family already control all but 2 of the countries of the world
they all put on a big act of not getting along but in truth theyre all together in it, and the 2 remaining countries dont have any power to begin a world war

the so-called 'wars' we have now are just acts to keep the people in a state of fear that someone actually might threaten them.....because scared citizens are willing to surrender their rights in the name of 'freedom' - ahem patriot act

you prove how ignorant you are by not knowing whats actually going on in palestine, its israel doing what the nazis did to poland, just in this case they have usa promoting only the 'poor little israelis point of view

I CAN'T ******* IGNORE IT.
> Rothschild doesn't control the world you stupid ******* twat. No evidence supports that other than them being rich. Until someone has chipped and mind controlled 51% of the world, the Illimanti ******** doesn't work.

> In reality, if someone controlled the world already, they would have caused many wars, released plagues, and generally slaughtered every stupid human being on the face of the Earth - reducing the need of resources dramatically, increasing the rate of technological growth, increasing the quality of the species in general, etc. Also, no science would go unfunded and military wouldn't be funded.

> And why the **** would the rulers of the world ******* hide? They rule the world, they're untouchable - just make it official and nobody will really give two twats because it already doesn't do anything to their daily lives to begin with. So might as well just tell them so, you know, they can actually have some form of power or control at all.

> Do you know what the Patriot Act even is? It surrenders absolutely no freedom at all. We've signed those bills for 40 years and it only matter this time because people wanted to make Obama/Busch look bad. And without it, it would be pretty much ******* impossible to fight against terrorists or spies. Almost every country in the world has that because it's ******* necessary.

The USA doesn't promote ****. Nobody in the entire world gives a ****. You think their problems are on the mind of even .0001% of the American populace at least once a month? No ******* way. And that's why I say how about we stop the kicking and screaming and tell the two ******* kids to play God damn nice or before everyone gets a spanking.

hell just a couple years back i was in new zealand and people there were convinced of americans ideal that "all arabs are terrorists"

america doesnt want people to play nice, america wants everyone at each others throats so that everyones too busy opposing each other instead of uniting as human beings and trying to bring actual peace to the world

politicians and the media have been spewing **** for decades and you just opened your head and let it flush right in there

you prove your ignorance by bleating the "ERMEGERD ILLUMINATI" crap like everyone else does when they dont want to listen,

have you even read a history book ever, there have been more wars in the last 100 years than in any other century, they HAVE released diseases, and 'conveniently' have the cures all ready to go for a price......they dont slaughter the number of stupid people, they send them off to fight these bogus wars so both reducing the resources needed to keep them alive at the same time they pillage the world for more resources.....technology is increased faster through wars, hence why usa keeps going into them....

there is no increases in quality for the species, they are just making themselves better overall and making the people only better in regards to being better labor workers to make the money for them

the secret leaders of the world hide so they can deny responsibility for whats going on andalso protect themselves from assassination attempts
once again, read a book, all the fascist leaders in history who came out in the open were the targets for people trying to kill them, the new world order leaders prefer to hide and live

the american presidents already make themselves look bad, every terrorist group has been funded by the CIA to stage attacks where they want them and justify usa taking action to make themselves look like the good guy
and if you want to say obama is 'such a nice guy' then why did he just recently sign an EXECUTIVE ORDER for the security agencies to spy on anyone anytime 'to protect national security'

yes its not all of israel doing what the nazis did, its the zionists who are the neo-nazis and the rest of israel just sits back and watches while the m9inority bring a bad name to the whole people

after WW1, the british got their hands on the lands of palestine and made it 'the british mandate of palestine, then after WW2, took 60% of that palestine to make israel

before that there was no israel, so its by using stolen land they created it, then after the first war of outrage between palestine and israel, israel stole about half of what was left of palestine, then after the 2nd war, palestine pretty much doesnt exist, its just territory occupied by israel

so between strike one and two of having land stolen and strike 3 being watched over all day every day by armed israelis spoiling for reasons to open fire on them, i think the paloestinians have good reason to be hostile

Please don't listen to Konrad over here. He spews this kind of ******** all the time.

> It was British land. They owned it, and it was their right to do with what they will.

> When Israel was created it included a bunch of land - Israel didn't settle it until later - when they did, the Palestine bitched about how it was their land even though the documents say otherwise - they bombed the **** out of Israel when Israel didn't care about the bitching - Israel said "**** - fine take it back. We don't want it. Just promise you won't attack us anymore!" and Palestine agreed - Palestine then started bombing the **** out of Israel because they wanted more of "their land" back.

> "Watched over all day every day" is ********. The Israelis left them alone, why the Hell do they care? The only things they did were counter-terrorism and standard martial law while things get set up. Palestinians in the area just bitched about it.

>> Palestine is at fault for starting this.
>> Israel is at fault for letting this continue
>> The rest of the world is at fault for not putting our damn foot down and bitch slapping both our kids.

For the love of God - He's saying that Israel has concentration camps and is slaughtering anyone who isn't Jewish, the reverse of Nazi-ism essentially. He's saying Israelis are taking Palestinian people as slaves, and then forcing the rest to move and breaking up families and eating babies - oh sorry, I got carried away.

He's a ******* loon, PopKornKing. He's an extremist anti-westernist (mostly against USA and Britain, though). I would go through his comments and show you the ******** he spouts, but (a) he blocked me and (b) he deletes the ones nobody likes. For instance that one the other day where he got -342 for talking about how Britain deserves to burn for what they did to India hundreds of years ago.

well palestine fires less missiles than the media claims and israel is firing more than they let on, but yeah

as for the cleansing, its been on a few interviews with outsiders who have visited palestine and even a few interviews with palestinians, including one who was born outside palestine but moved in, that the israelis have put the palestinian peoples in isolated fenced-off areas, not that it matters because any time israel wants land theyll just move the people to another area

they are keeping the palestinians largely without real food or clean water, no real toilets or sewer systems, and israelis randomly fire on anyone based on suspicion, hell even that migrant palestinian who went in there, she was up late to study for college, and just because her bedroom light was on past 9pm some israeli hald a mile off opened fire on her bedroom