How many times have YOU griped while putting on your shoes to do [x] outside? Now just imagine instead of taking one minute to put on shoes, you have to take half an hour to put on a whole goddamn spacesuit.

dj_spanmaster:How many times have YOU griped while putting on your shoes to do [x] outside? Now just imagine instead of taking one minute to put on shoes, you have to take half an hour to put on a whole goddamn spacesuit.

You can't even be naked inside the suit.

And on top of that your fingernails have all fallen off (or you preemptively yanked them) from wearing the damned suit so much. And so not to seem like a Debbie Downer, I'd gladly pull my fingernails to get to go into space.

Blow. There is really no such thing as "sucking", as fluids cannot be pulled. (Your mom may disagree with this.)

As for "outdoor space chores", there was a job on the Apollo missions where the command module pilot had to do an EVA to retrieve the film cans from outside the service module on the way back to Earth, before the module was discarded.

The task was created in part to make up for the fact that he didn't get to go down to the surface with the others.

kobrakai:dj_spanmaster: How many times have YOU griped while putting on your shoes to do [x] outside? Now just imagine instead of taking one minute to put on shoes, you have to take half an hour to put on a whole goddamn spacesuit.

You can't even be naked inside the suit.

And on top of that your fingernails have all fallen off (or you preemptively yanked them) from wearing the damned suit so much. And so not to seem like a Debbie Downer, I'd gladly pull my fingernails to get to go into space.

We have better technology now. Test pilots in rubber suits are no longer needed to take pictures.

But look on the bright side, RC toys are much better now.

I don't know why I even bother replying to you, but here goes:

Before humans reached the Moon there was fear that if the Russians landed a man first, they might be able to make a valid legal claim to the Moon for Russia. We couldn't let that happen. America put full state resources into getting there first, making a point of saying that we had come in peace for ALL mankind. We stuck American flags in it every time we went, but never once claimed it.

Later, a treaty was signed saying no country could claim any extra terrestrial real estate.

studebaker hoch:Blow. There is really no such thing as "sucking", as fluids cannot be pulled. (Your mom may disagree with this.)

As for "outdoor space chores", there was a job on the Apollo missions where the command module pilot had to do an EVA to retrieve the film cans from outside the service module on the way back to Earth, before the module was discarded.

The task was created in part to make up for the fact that he didn't get to go down to the surface with the others.[upload.wikimedia.org image 768x768]

NASA was cool back then.

All the CM Pilots seem to insist that they aren't upset about not going down there (in interviews at least). I know as amazing as the lunar orbits must be, I'd still be pretty bitter.

Yes, it had to be manned six times to plant your selfless flags there, eh? Guess you had to make sure that patriotic flag was there for all mankind, eh?

It was a stunt, a spectacle.

Was it amazing? Sure. And so were dozens if not hundreds of other engineering projects.

And?

It's a complete waste of time to re-live the past and glorify the dead ideas of a bygone era. The Space Age is dead. We don't need it anymore. We don't need your glorious artwork and your delusional beliefs.

No one needs ball bearings built in free-fall, we can make better ones right here.

It was a great show, but like all great shows, eventually they end and real life goes on.

theorellior:Quantum Apostrophe: Every problem and every solution will be right here on Earth.

Just wait until they discover immortal atoms in Io's ion torus. You'd be suited up with cash in hand faster than you can say "fountain of youth".

Lol. It's exactly the same situation as the colonization of America. Sure we could go but why would we spend the money to do so? The minute someone figures out how to make a hefty profit off of colonizing space there will be a mad rush to claim as much as possible.

Quantum Apostrophe:r1niceboy: Do many fun people have a restraining order keeping you away from them? I'm betting Phil Plait is thinking about getting one.

Fun is something you can actually do, like a MiG flight. You know that, right? Otherwise it's just yelling at a pink foam rubber wall.

So, you didn't answer me.

Why don't you plop down 50k to fly in a MiG, and if you can't do that, what makes you think Elon Musk is going to let you stow away?

Glorious free-fall in low Earth orbit, for all mankind!

studebaker hoch: Before humans reached the Moon there was fear that if the Russians landed a man first, they might be able to make a valid legal claim to the Moon for Russia.

Yes, of course, nothing at all to do with lobbing nukes over the pole. Nope.

studebaker hoch: We couldn't let that happen.

How selfless of you. Did you do it for the species? All these romantic chest-thumping notions you have about space are mentally ill.

studebaker hoch: America put full state resources into getting there first, making a point of saying that we had come in peace for ALL mankind.

This is so delusional I'm staggered that anyone would seriously believe that. President Nixon, that courageous peace-loving man who signed that plaque clearly didn't love ALL mankind though, eh?

But I guess you have your patriotic Made in China USA glasses on, as well your Space Nutter hat today, eh?

studebaker hoch: Apollo HAD to be manned. Spaceflight in general does not.

Yes, it had to be manned six times to plant your selfless flags there, eh? Guess you had to make sure that patriotic flag was there for all mankind, eh?

It was a stunt, a spectacle.

Was it amazing? Sure. And so were dozens if not hundreds of other engineering projects.

And?

It's a complete waste of time to re-live the past and glorify the dead ideas of a bygone era. The Space Age is dead. We don't need it anymore. We don't need your glorious artwork and your delusional beliefs.

All the CM Pilots seem to insist that they aren't upset about not going down there (in interviews at least). I know as amazing as the lunar orbits must be, I'd still be pretty bitter.

Why, because two guys won the Powerball jackpot and you only got five million bucks? They get to bang the two hottest chicks on earth, and you're stuck with the third hottest?

Those "losers" got to ride a Saturn V to the freakin' MOON and do all kinds of fun vehicle dockings and undockings, do the EVA on the way home, and even get to rub a few out with the away team gone for the weekend.