She believed she could fly.She believed she could touch the sky.She thought about it every day.Slipped her bonds and flew away.She spread her wings and soared.Took a leap off that bridge railing.She believed she could fly.She believed she could fly.Splat.

I don't usually invest any attention on "Missing White Girls", but this one bothers me. Mostly because it sounds to me that she was pushed by a pair of over-achieving dolts who most likely placed a titanic-sized amount of pressure on her to "succeed". She's been described as "driven"- I'll bet that it was actually the PARENTS who were driven and transferred that to her. Fark, Capt. of the tennis team, accepted to NINE law schools... she probably wanted to be a farking vet or cut hair. But no- that wouldn't be enough for them.

drjekel_mrhyde:White people's problems?J/k I always wanted to know what the fark would make someone want to kill themselves and hurt their family

You get to a point where you believe that all you've ever brought your family is stress and disappointment; that you'll never be anything else to them. At that moment, it's easy to conclude your family will be better off without you. You're saving them from a lifetime of disappointment by removing yourself from the equation.

big_hed:drjekel_mrhyde: White people's problems?J/k I always wanted to know what the fark would make someone want to kill themselves and hurt their family

Mental disease is a terrible thing to go through, and it manifests itself most commonly in the early 20s.

Having seen it first hand manifest itself in a person I had known for years in the few weeks leading up to college graduation was eye opening. We grappled with the decision for days before finally alerting the parents.

Keep an eye out on your friends college kids, those weeks before graduation can cause tremendous stress. And sometimes trigger mental illness

Twist2005:drjekel_mrhyde: White people's problems?J/k I always wanted to know what the fark would make someone want to kill themselves and hurt their family

You get to a point where you believe that all you've ever brought your family is stress and disappointment; that you'll never be anything else to them. At that moment, it's easy to conclude your family will be better off without you. You're saving them from a lifetime of disappointment by removing yourself from the equation.

Or, in a moment of anger, you believe that they're to blame for all of your ills. That killing yourself will "show them" or something. Or you do it just because you feel that you're suffering so much that death will be a nicer alternative, and that you're so small in the world that it won't be a big deal that you're gone. People can rationalize just about anything.

That being said, can I take a moment to note that suicide has not been officially ruled as the cause of death? I mean, it's obviously the most likely thing, but the article even says that the police are still investigating. I know it's silly to suggest "maybe she tripped, maybe she was being stupid and hanging over the side, maybe she was pushed", but let's please stop the jumping to conclusions.

Twist2005:drjekel_mrhyde: White people's problems?J/k I always wanted to know what the fark would make someone want to kill themselves and hurt their family

You get to a point where you believe that all you've ever brought your family is stress and disappointment; that you'll never be anything else to them. At that moment, it's easy to conclude your family will be better off without you. You're saving them from a lifetime of disappointment by removing yourself from the equation.

My stepsister commit suicide last month. She was in her low 30s, no history of depression or mental illness. Much like this young woman she was showing some stress (work-related, she wanted to quit but they needed her income to pay the rent) and her mom was making meals and stuff for her and her husband to take some pressure off them (and she mentioned feeling guilty about that to her husband), but no one saw anything else. The morning after a job performance review her husband woke up and found her hanging in the shower. Mental illnesses can come on at any age, but the 20-40 range is pretty common. Mix up some stress, some feeling trapped, and throw the brain chemistry out of whack at the same time and you unfortunately have a potentially lethal combination.

That is exactly what I was wondering. Why? She offed herself. What exactly are they honoring? Here is an idea, why not do something to help people with mental issues? People are freakin' dumb en masse, they just clearly miss opportunities to do anything of real benefit when it comes to tragedy.

That is one heck of a popular bridge to suicide from - I think there has been at least 3 jumpers in my very recent memory.I wonder if it is rivaling the Golden Gate for the deaths?

I saw a program recently about the feet in sneakers/ running shoes washing up on shore. Pretty certain that they came from suiciders. The feet break off on impact, apparently. I thought I should let you know that if you are sad and depressed, that's what happens. Don't do it. You'll break your feet off.

My stepsister commit suicide last month. She was in her low 30s, no history of depression or mental illness. Much like this young woman she was showing some stress (work-related, she wanted to quit but they needed her income to pay the rent) and her mom was making meals and stuff for her and her husband to take some pressure off them (and she mentioned feeling guilty about that to her husband), but no one saw anything else. The morning after a job performance review her husband woke up and found her hanging in the shower. Mental illnesses can come on at any age, but the 20-40 range is pretty common. Mix up some stress, some feeling trapped, and throw the brain chemistry out of whack at the same time and you unfortunately have a potentially lethal combination.

hardinparamedic:She believed she could fly.She believed she could touch the sky.She thought about it every day.Slipped her bonds and flew away.She spread her wings and soared.Took a leap off that bridge railing.She believed she could fly.She believed she could fly.Splat

So someone who throws herself on a grenade to save his platoon, knowing that doing so is certain death, has no honor? A man who dashes in front of a car to shove a child to safety and dies in the effort ... he should be viewed with derision?

GungFu:That is one heck of a popular bridge to suicide from - I think there has been at least 3 jumpers in my very recent memory.I wonder if it is rivaling the Golden Gate for the deaths?

I saw a program recently about the feet in sneakers/ running shoes washing up on shore. Pretty certain that they came from suiciders. The feet break off on impact, apparently. I thought I should let you know that if you are sad and depressed, that's what happens. Don't do it. You'll break your feet off.

Yeah, though. Wiki says 18 last year. Not quite the widowmaker of the Golden Gate, but still crazy shiat.

darch:I don't usually invest any attention on "Missing White Girls", but this one bothers me. Mostly because it sounds to me that she was pushed by a pair of over-achieving dolts who most likely placed a titanic-sized amount of pressure on her to "succeed". She's been described as "driven"- I'll bet that it was actually the PARENTS who were driven and transferred that to her. Fark, Capt. of the tennis team, accepted to NINE law schools... she probably wanted to be a farking vet or cut hair. But no- that wouldn't be enough for them.

I was thinking how sad it was, but then this: "Aiello was last seen by her family after her father drove her home from classes on the afternoon of April 9. She then took her mother's car without permission..." made me think something really creepy was going on. I am probably being horribly unfair to the parents, but what is a dad doing driving his 22 year old daughter home from classes? Why does the phrase "without permission" appear when referencing her use of a family vehicle?

Chupacabra Sandwich:GungFu: That is one heck of a popular bridge to suicide from - I think there has been at least 3 jumpers in my very recent memory.I wonder if it is rivaling the Golden Gate for the deaths?

I saw a program recently about the feet in sneakers/ running shoes washing up on shore. Pretty certain that they came from suiciders. The feet break off on impact, apparently. I thought I should let you know that if you are sad and depressed, that's what happens. Don't do it. You'll break your feet off.

Yeah, though. Wiki says 18 last year. Not quite the widowmaker of the Golden Gate, but still crazy shiat.

I've been reading about them since the 70s, it's a high traffic bridge.

The WindowLicker:darch: I don't usually invest any attention on "Missing White Girls", but this one bothers me. Mostly because it sounds to me that she was pushed by a pair of over-achieving dolts who most likely placed a titanic-sized amount of pressure on her to "succeed". She's been described as "driven"- I'll bet that it was actually the PARENTS who were driven and transferred that to her. Fark, Capt. of the tennis team, accepted to NINE law schools... she probably wanted to be a farking vet or cut hair. But no- that wouldn't be enough for them.

I was thinking how sad it was, but then this: "Aiello was last seen by her family after her father drove her home from classes on the afternoon of April 9. She then took her mother's car without permission..." made me think something really creepy was going on. I am probably being horribly unfair to the parents, but what is a dad doing driving his 22 year old daughter home from classes? Why does the phrase "without permission" appear when referencing her use of a family vehicle?

"Without permission" caught my eye as well, more like 12 not 22. Why had she moved back home? This sounds more like a L&O episode with an Asian parents hammering on a son/daughter to excel. She even parked her mother's car and took the train and left here purse and cell so she could be "found".

Nidstang:Twist2005: drjekel_mrhyde: White people's problems?J/k I always wanted to know what the fark would make someone want to kill themselves and hurt their family

You get to a point where you believe that all you've ever brought your family is stress and disappointment; that you'll never be anything else to them. At that moment, it's easy to conclude your family will be better off without you. You're saving them from a lifetime of disappointment by removing yourself from the equation.

My stepsister commit suicide last month. She was in her low 30s, no history of depression or mental illness. Much like this young woman she was showing some stress (work-related, she wanted to quit but they needed her income to pay the rent) and her mom was making meals and stuff for her and her husband to take some pressure off them (and she mentioned feeling guilty about that to her husband), but no one saw anything else. The morning after a job performance review her husband woke up and found her hanging in the shower. Mental illnesses can come on at any age, but the 20-40 range is pretty common. Mix up some stress, some feeling trapped, and throw the brain chemistry out of whack at the same time and you unfortunately have a potentially lethal combination.

BiffSpiffy:The WindowLicker: darch: I don't usually invest any attention on "Missing White Girls", but this one bothers me. Mostly because it sounds to me that she was pushed by a pair of over-achieving dolts who most likely placed a titanic-sized amount of pressure on her to "succeed". She's been described as "driven"- I'll bet that it was actually the PARENTS who were driven and transferred that to her. Fark, Capt. of the tennis team, accepted to NINE law schools... she probably wanted to be a farking vet or cut hair. But no- that wouldn't be enough for them.

I was thinking how sad it was, but then this: "Aiello was last seen by her family after her father drove her home from classes on the afternoon of April 9. She then took her mother's car without permission..." made me think something really creepy was going on. I am probably being horribly unfair to the parents, but what is a dad doing driving his 22 year old daughter home from classes? Why does the phrase "without permission" appear when referencing her use of a family vehicle?

"Without permission" caught my eye as well, more like 12 not 22. Why had she moved back home? This sounds more like a L&O episode with an Asian parents hammering on a son/daughter to excel. She even parked her mother's car and took the train and left here purse and cell so she could be "found".

Maybe she was just trying to get out of Jersey once and for all.

Sounds like she'd been on the edge for a while, since she'd moved back home and everything. Her folks may not have trusted her to drive for fear she'd commit suicide via a nice, one-car "accident".