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wait Jodie wasnt Vermouth when Vermouth was revealed in 345 she was Dr. Ariade Jodie was always FBI

Yes, that's the point. But when Vermouth first started getting hinted at in the manga, way back when Pisco was killed, Gosho kept hinting that Jodie was Vermouth. Exactly the same way Okiya is being hinted at being Bourbon.

i admit i was wrong about subaru being bourbon and such but this really was an interesting chapter @Himmel she drank it probably off screen either way i think i have a theory as to how chris and Sharon are the same person maybe when she was still Sharon she took the APTX and knew about the secret its still gonna be fun but i think it'll take 2 chapters to resolve it but what about this twist i'd wager that Bourbon's promise is actually to pretend to kill sherry and let the group get away somehow that way their off the trail and she can still keep her promise

Spoiler for 824:

looks like i was wrong about the whole bourbon promise but man this is a drag it would seem bourbons promise involves conan more and more but idk at this point sheesh

Last edited by ImperialFlameGod8190; 2012-06-29 at 12:54.
Reason: spoiler

This bring more question... remember Bourbon was hanging out by Date's grave? Does this mean Date is a member of the BO too? Also, does this mean Akai knew Conan's true identity now his mom is directly involve in this case? And who was the Akai in the mall and bank case?

I am not quite sure what Yukiko mean by saying Conan think there is a reaosn why Vermouth didn't reveal aptx secret? After all, during the Ghost ship case Vermouth was all prepare to kill Haibara.

@xellos thats what i mean if u assume that vermouth has always been fake akai she was in 2 places at once in the mall case. As for Vermouth not revealing APTX's secret ironically enough i bet it has to do with Conan himself. After all Vermouth knows very well that Conan is Jimmy kudo and Yukikos son. If APTX is confirmed to shrink Haibara it could explain the inconsistincies with Jimmy Kudo as well and she doesnt want to have to kill Yukiko or put her in harms way. That and Vermouth owes Jimmy her life

This bring more question... remember Bourbon was hanging out by Date's grave? Does this mean Date is a member of the BO too? Also, does this mean Akai knew Conan's true identity now his mom is directly involve in this case? And who was the Akai in the mall and bank case?

I am not quite sure what Yukiko mean by saying Conan think there is a reaosn why Vermouth didn't reveal aptx secret? After all, during the Ghost ship case Vermouth was all prepare to kill Haibara.

Amuro and Date were best friends in the Police Academy. There is not much else known about Amuro and Date.

Fake Akai is a disguise, NOT a set person. The theory is that the first Fake Akai (all the ones before the Mystery Train case) is Boubon gathering information. The second is, of course, Vermouth. Read the previous posts in this thread.

Vermouth constantly calls Conan the second "Silver Bullet" (Akai Shuuichi is the first). A theory is that she secretly wants Conan to stop the Black Organization. Silver Bullet is, of course, an object that destroys evil.

Vermouth seems really interested in not only Conan (Kudo Shinichi) but also Mouri Ran. As Sharon Vineyard, Vermouth used the quote, "No angel has smiled upon me, not even once." But she started calling Ran "Angel" after Ran saved her in New York. The weakness that Vermouth has that Yukiko talked about is probably Conan and Ran. Remember, she even ordered Calvados in the Ghost Ship arc not to kill Ran.

1. Bourbon plans to isolate Sherry in the last wagon, which is rigged to explode (by a call from Vermouth's phone). He places an additional charge on the accordeon-like section between the last and second to last wagon so as to uncouple the two, prior to detonation.
2. Akai (yep, with no visible scar) appears behind Bourbon and spoils his plan with a casually dropped grenade. The last wagon is still disconnected by the blast and detonates in the middle of a bridge.
3. Vermouth leaves Yukiko; Bourbon survived the grenade explosion unscathed.
4. Ai is alive (she's still in child form), though sleeping on Agasa's back. Vermouth (in a different disguise) realizes that things are really wrong.
5. Adult!Sherry was actually Kaitou Kid in disguise. He previously maqueraded as the old woman on the wheelchair (the assistant was one of Kid's accomplices) and Conan recruited his help.
6. Kid escaped the wagon explosion thanks to his backpack kite.
7. Sera is awake again, though a bit confused. Yukiko looks understandably smug, whereas Vermouth mentally concedes defeat.
8. Okiya is now keeping an eye on Amuro/Bourbon.

So let me get this straight Ai was never in danger she was asleep Kaitou Kid was Sherry and nobody dies well i hate to say troll but thats really sad and ai was always safe man this aint even right haha seems a lot of predictions were right including mine about nobody dying

Kaito Kid says to Conan as he escapes, "I didn't hear anything about guns and bombs. What is going on? What is with those dangerous people?"

Kaito Kid reveals that he was the person pushing the old lady's wheelchair. The old lady is Kaito Kid's accomplice; that's why she doesn't speak. Conan asks Kid to help Sherry escape from the bad guys. (The real old lady and her helper received a fake mail and are resting at home.)