I know that games on 6/25 were played closed - tried to look at what was going on, but, naturally, it was not possible. Can't believe it can be for real - even taking into account the one lost game on 6/23. And this is not the first such series between these 2 players: grand total is 29:1 (in 2007 stats there are 16 more wins against Ritter Armin, and no lost games for superamsel). Another somewhat strange series played earlier against player Ritter Rost - total score is 19:3, but this time on USA map.

superamsel is back as No.1 on Swiss map, and the same cheating still goes on unabated.

In the last 15 days superamsel played 16 games, and 5 of them were against Ritter Armin, who is now number 4 in Swiss map. Ritter Armin is the only high-ranked player amongst other superamsel opponents, but he got his usual pounding - 5:0, propping superamsel to the top of the Swiss list:

For anyone who hasn't figured it out, this is our old buddy Nando. Get a life loser, you get caught all the time and then you get frozen, I can't imagine what a pathetic life you must have to resort to this.

So you wonder how does thekid know it's Nando? Go check his old ID and you see he started playing a lot of swiss and was pretty good at it. But he can't seem to stay away from unrated games against certain players.

Ritter Armin is placed THIRD in switz directly behind him and has not won a game for months!

EDIT: I heard from reliable source that this is NOT Nando! All arguments stay the same but without the Nando-references!

THIS IS CHEATING and i have enough from you [, NANDO. Leave this game forever! We don't want you! Nobody. It is time for DOW to cancel your account forever.] There are a lot of other guests and second accounts he is also playing to pump up his score. Please DOW check the registration Emails, 100% that they are similar and lead to the same person.

This behaviour is going for months now [and after how many warnings he is finally banned?] If he is reaching the number one spot this game has no more value for me.

superamsel isn't nando. superamsel was at the game fair in essen and he doesn't look like nando in 2006.

but i agree with u, that this "game" from superamsel can't go on in this way. i can't understand this, because he was and is part of the community (for me since the fair in essen - i was very surprised to see him there) and i think he knows that such topic about him is existing in the competetive forum ...

I thought it would be good to get this thread up again, as superamsel has reached the nr. 1 position quite recently and is now lurking at 1800+ playing only newbs in Swiss in low frequency to please himself with his rank.

Back in the day, he loved to beat his second account Ritter Armin 40-1.

Similarly, I think recently tufftuff got banned (he has a * in front of his name now) for playing his second account Graue Eminenz and reaching nr. 1 in Europe after 27.000 games, never before coming close.

Talking to tüfftüff and Graue Eminenz they claim they are brothers... and are fed up with being called cheaters, since they are not - this is what they told me.
As a matter of fact their behavior is different - one is the talkative, the other one barely speaks. I trust them when they say they are 2.

...and guys...this is a GAME!

If someone feels great cheating, so what. We can just laugh about it.

And we all know superamsel is not a good player. Refusing to play good players says it all - doesn't it?

EDIT:...I agree to what Miguel posted below, but 1100+ is tough...make it 1250 +

He opens games available to anyone, if i (or any user that knows a bit swiss) enter he refuses to play.
even when he plays +1100 overall rank he sometimes refuses (if they for some reason have a better rank or the slightest experience playing Swiss)...

if this is the best way of being rank 1 in swiss, i rather not be rank 1, and i wont think this sort of behavior is fair @ all.

p.s i'll take the challenge as soon as i have a bit of time to play Swiss vs +1100 (in Swiss) in a row. just for the challenge

Why, womble, do you post here without knowing anything ?
Check tufftuf and Graue's history against one-another and tell me what's to be trusted about it ?

womble wrote on Tue, 16 October 2012 23:14

Talking to tüfftüff and Graue Eminenz they claim they are brothers... and are fed up with being called cheaters, since they are not - this is what they told me.
As a matter of fact their behavior is different - one is the talkative, the other one barely speaks. I trust them when they say they are 2.

...and guys...this is a GAME!

If someone feels great cheating, so what. We can just laugh about it.

And we all know superamsel is not a good player. Refusing to play good players says it all - doesn't it?

EDIT:...I agree to what Miguel posted below, but 1100+ is tough...make it 1250 +

My point is playing low rated players to get to the number 1 spot is a legitimate method.

Playing the same person over and over is not, even if it isn't your own account.

I could easily beat my boardgaming friends 40 times in a row if they made a DoW Account since they have only played TTR a few times (especially in Swiss). So it doesn't really matter if its the same person with 2 accounts or 2 different people.

My point is playing low rated players to get to the number 1 spot is a legitimate method.

My point is refusing playing good players isn't a legitimate method to be legitimate number one.

but is refusing to play lower ranked players a more legitimate way?

Well, this was not my earlier point. If someone reaches nr. 1 on a map, winning 100/100 against weak ops, good for him/her. Goal achieved, point made. But being in the top of the rankings for five years with 2 accounts, hand-picking your opps and blocking much better swiss players from reaching number 1 (for five years), whilst clearly having cheated in the past, that's something completely different for me.

Playing too low ranked players hasn't got any interest, any playing fun. For me, and for them. Boring games. And often, they leave after a block...
It's nothing to do with a matter of points.

well but games with lower ranked players can be dangerous..
some small mistake and you can lose also and if you lose you lose a lot of points.
i think thats the right answer why the most of the tops dont play 1100

well but games with lower ranked players can be dangerous..
some small mistake and you can lose also and if you lose you lose a lot of points.
i think thats the right answer why the most of the tops dont play 1100

I don't think so, at least for me that's not the reason.
If an 1100-player wants to see how he can do against a "top" , he is welcome.

But ...
I don't want to play "slow and fair" (actually fast&fair is a dangerous title because they want you to play fast, but they don't like you to finish fast ) and I don't want to be called names because I didn't.
I don't want to wait 5 minutes in every 2nd game for a botted(?) player who never comes back.
I don't feel "good" when I beat a weak player (When I play Badminton against our "cracks" they normally don't smash hard - because they feel "it's not done" against a weak player and/or because it's not much use/fun if I can't reach any ball. So they don't play the game they normally would, and they probably don't enjoy it as much as they would enjoy a better opponent).

Therefore I will play any player who asks me to play, but I normally don't enter games opened by somebody 1500-.

my score of 1600 was not enough to get into some games yesterday. My point is that some protect their scores by choosing only to play with very high ranked players, others by playing only low ranked players. is there really a difference?

Sven may even pop a sexy lil skirt on and play mixed doubles with peter de zeeuw... You never know!

If you promise to go to bed in time and not give me that icy stare you're showcasing here, AND you all show up in the "Haagse Bos", I will gladly get my skirt out and whoop your behind. I won't, however, show my undies like your lady-friend is doing here. I'm a good girl after all.

I wasnt allowed to wear the matching yonex top to go with the shorts as I was sponsored and there were no advertising allowed at that tournament.

My serve is fine... twas the follow-through on a flick serve, hence my hand being behind the raquet!

And to any perverts out there (including me in this instance!) they are shorts you can see under her skirt. She looks pretty dam awesome in her bikini though, pictures on request lol. She's only 18 though, so a bit old for Sexy Sven Savile's tastes.

Edit: It's volantEs in my heart, and that's all that matters!

Haage's Bos: During the French Occupation in the early 19th Century, the forest was about to be cut down, but due to saboteurs and work delays the plan was never implemented. After the French occupation the ponds in the forest were made. Lazy frenchies couldnt be bothered working, they sabotaged any plans involving work, then put some ponds there to grow frogs for food... typical. And I bet they wore berets and smelt garlicy!