Would either of you wavelength/Adonis be willing to post a pic from now and progress pics every few months in order for people to see what effect your diet is really having on your body? If either of you are interested PM me and I can start a thread on The Positive Board to keep the trolling bullshit out and maintain a serious thread.

i pride myself on ignoring these broscience myths, and dealing with facts, but this is one i have believed for quite some time.

i have already read a few studies and i am surprised by the results.

the complete/incomplete protein recommendations do indeed appear to be a myth afterall

saying that i wonder why taking in leucine alone pre/post workout does not have the same effect as a whole protein source.

every answer raises more questions it seems

let me make this simple for you and adonis... in order to build muscle, eat muscle.. there are eleven essential aamino acids that can not be created by the human body.. you must consume aquequate amounts of these...

its is not about grams of protein, but more specifically about grams of protein containing all eleven amino acids.

what do you think would happen if you consumed 500 grams of protein everyday but never consumed any branch chain amino acids ? (this diet is very highly unlikely to ever occur but what would happen if it did)

the amount of muscle tissue in your body would start to slowly decline, regardless of any amount of other calories, drugs, or training

let me make this simple for you and adonis... in order to build muscle, eat muscle.. there are eleven essential aamino acids that can not be created by the human body.. you must consume aquequate amounts of these...

its is not about grams of protein, but more specifically about grams of protein containing all eleven amino acids.

what do you think would happen if you consumed 500 grams of protein everyday but never consumed any branch chain amino acids ? (this diet is very highly unlikely to ever occur but what would happen if it did)

the amount of muscle tissue in your body would start to slowly decline, regardless of any amount of other calories, drugs, or training

Totally irrelevant if you eat like a normal human being. This is as silly as suggesting one eat nothing but cardboard, lightbulbs or jolly ranchers and nothing else.

By default you will easily get a complete amino profile, especially when your food is varied and you are shooting for a minimum of about .5 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight a day.

Totally irrelevant if you eat like a normal human being. This is as silly as suggesting one eat nothing but cardboard, lightbulbs or jolly ranchers and nothing else.

By default you will easily get a complete amino profile, especially when your food is varied and you are shooting for a minimum of about .5 grams of protein per lb of bodyweight a day.

you said the idea of protein combination is a myth. it is not.

the idea that the general public needs to pay special attention to their diets in order to get enough essential amino acids is a myth.

the idea that a bodybuilder trying to gain muscle without eating foods that contain all of the essential amino acids would then have to make sure to be combining enough of the right types of foods in order to get enough of the key amino's to grow.... is not a myth.

sure, the amount is not that high.. but to get 1 gram per lb lean body weight of complete protein without eating complete protein is going to take some effort.

bodybuilders or those looking for muscle are mmuch better off eating complete protien sources.. mainly meat.

Do you ever eat above 1 gram per lb of bodyweight? Don't you think eating .5 grams per lb some days is too little?

Yep, sometimes I will eat over that amount.

I do not believe .5 grams per lb is low for me by any means as I only lift weights 4-5 days a week and do not exert myself in any way other than that.

Also, studies have shown that seasoned bodybuilders/Weightlifters may need LESS protein as several studies have shown that strength training, consistent with the anabolic stimulus for protein synthesis it provides, actually increases the efficiency of use of protein, which reduces dietary protein requirements.

I do not believe .5 grams per lb is low for me by any means as I only lift weights 4-5 days a week and do not exert myself in any way other than that.

Also, studies have shown that seasoned bodybuilders/Weightlifters may need LESS protein as several studies have shown that strength training, consistent with the anabolic stimulus for protein synthesis it provides, actually increases the efficiency of use of protein, which reduces dietary protein requirements.

That's very interesting information from those studies, I never made gains while eating less than 1 gram per lb though. I tried it in the past and it didn't work.

I noticed you don't make sure you eat an "x" amount of protein per day and that your intake varies a lot, why is this?Probably the days you eat .5 grams per lb or so are balanced out with the days you eat more than 1 gram per lb right?

Its very interesting to see you are able to stay ripped while eating anything you want. I never tried it, but I can see it being possible as overall calorie intake is what determines fat loss/gain or maintaining. Do you think its possible to remain ripped and gain muscle at the same time? I think its not since caloric intake will vary too much.

Would either of you wavelength/Adonis be willing to post a pic from now and progress pics every few months in order for people to see what effect your diet is really having on your body? If either of you are interested PM me and I can start a thread on The Positive Board to keep the trolling bullshit out and maintain a serious thread.

I kind of already did that last year and it took quite some time to maintain that thread. Don't have the time right now but it would be awesome if TA did it.

I love how you eat Ice Cream so early in the day, that is of course if your diet log is in chronological order. I know that anytime is a good time for ice cream, but having a bowl of it at 6 am is a little too early.