]]>By: Seth R.http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381&cpage=1#comment-5156
Seth R.Tue, 21 Nov 2006 21:59:05 +0000http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381#comment-5156Wait a sec Bret... Do you mean
a) you hang around here so that your own faltering can make it easier for me to be strong,
b) you hang around here so that my faltering will make it easier for you to be strong, or
c) I'm showing the beginning effects of sleep deprivationWait a sec Bret… Do you mean

a) you hang around here so that your own faltering can make it easier for me to be strong,

b) you hang around here so that my faltering will make it easier for you to be strong, or

c) I’m showing the beginning effects of sleep deprivation

]]>By: Brethttp://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381&cpage=1#comment-5153
BretTue, 21 Nov 2006 07:44:10 +0000http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381#comment-5153Why do you think I hang around the Bloggernacle?Why do you think I hang around the Bloggernacle?
]]>By: Seth R.http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381&cpage=1#comment-5150
Seth R.Mon, 20 Nov 2006 20:24:39 +0000http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381#comment-5150I think the sad thing here is that Nephi's display of unwavering faithfulness came at the expense of Lehi's authority. Lehi was pretty much firmly in charge of things as patriarch up until this point.
After the bow incident however, he lost a lot of that authority and never got it back. His murmuring de-legitimized him in the eyes of <em>all</em> his children, including Laman and Lemuel.
From this point in the story, it becomes Nephi's show. He is now the one making the decisions. Lehi fades into obscurity. It's partly his own fault, of course. But it's still unfortunate.I think the sad thing here is that Nephi’s display of unwavering faithfulness came at the expense of Lehi’s authority. Lehi was pretty much firmly in charge of things as patriarch up until this point.

After the bow incident however, he lost a lot of that authority and never got it back. His murmuring de-legitimized him in the eyes of all his children, including Laman and Lemuel.

From this point in the story, it becomes Nephi’s show. He is now the one making the decisions. Lehi fades into obscurity. It’s partly his own fault, of course. But it’s still unfortunate.

]]>By: Susan Mhttp://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381&cpage=1#comment-5149
Susan MMon, 20 Nov 2006 19:42:20 +0000http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381#comment-5149<em>Sometimes I think it is easier to be strong when those around you falter.</em>
That's what I was trying to get at.Sometimes I think it is easier to be strong when those around you falter.

That’s what I was trying to get at.

]]>By: Don Cliftonhttp://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381&cpage=1#comment-5148
Don CliftonMon, 20 Nov 2006 18:39:27 +0000http://www.nine-moons.com/?p=381#comment-5148My father was inactive my entire growing up. He wasn't a bad father, just inactive. When I decided to go on my mission he offered to help me fix my 55 plymouth with a hemi and I could stay and go to college plus he offered no financial support - 7 kids made the $$$ part difficult. He finally agreed to pay part of my mission, my brother who left 60 months later was supported completely by the ward.
Was it easy - no! Did it make me stronger as you point out Susan - yes! As I reflect on your comments and my experience I think maybe part of it for me was it gave me something I could stand up against my father. I could be strong and he couldn't change that.
Sometimes I think it is easier to be strong when those around you falter.My father was inactive my entire growing up. He wasn’t a bad father, just inactive. When I decided to go on my mission he offered to help me fix my 55 plymouth with a hemi and I could stay and go to college plus he offered no financial support – 7 kids made the $$$ part difficult. He finally agreed to pay part of my mission, my brother who left 60 months later was supported completely by the ward.

Was it easy – no! Did it make me stronger as you point out Susan – yes! As I reflect on your comments and my experience I think maybe part of it for me was it gave me something I could stand up against my father. I could be strong and he couldn’t change that.

Sometimes I think it is easier to be strong when those around you falter.