QBZ-95 and other bullpups

Let's discuss this Chinese bullpup. It's using modified AK mechanism to function, making it much less error prone than other bullpups. It's also widely deployed. Second pic compares Canadian export version to rifle with about same barrel length. B version fixed many things of A version, most notably moving fire selector from stock to where it should above trigger.

In my opinion from what I have studied, bullpups are the way forward as Chinese army has standardized over QBZ not only for infantry, but for tank crews and urban commandos since it's so compact. Having never shot bullpup myself, what does Zig Forums think of them? Why aren't they used more widely? Having been to army, urban combat in particular would be a lot easier since holding normal assault rifle in attack position over five minutes gets very taxing due to its front-heavy weight.

The only real problem with them is that most bullpups are a normal rifle cramed together, and so their controls and trigger system are awful. The best bullpups so far were made by Polish designers in Britain who reverse-engineered German weapons, because they were bold enough to rebuild them as bullpups. Vid related seems to be better than anything else designed in the last 60 years.

11 months ago

Dominic Collins

They're replacing them with a standard looking rifle, as in it turns out when you don't starve your people completely they kinda outgrow the things you built for them when they were smaller. Also the triggers on them are to the point of spongy they just aren't fun.

11 months ago

Henry Fisher

A modern carbine is not really big enough to warrant replacing with a bullpup. There may be some applications, like for tank crews but for the average soldier a standard rifle would be better.

11 months ago

Daniel Rogers

Oh and to expand on this particular gun, I find a Browning Hi-Power with the stock on it far more comfortable to use than that thing.

11 months ago

Luke Ramirez

tavor is the best bullpup right now it seems nice trigger and ttrigger pack upgrades and battle tested just they are kind of pricy ie 18,00

11 months ago

Ayden Mitchell

It's using modified AK mechanism to function, making it much less error prone than other bullpupsHaha, no

Hi MAC, when are the pistol gauntlet tests continuing?

11 months ago

Angel Sullivan

coming soon right now tho were getting a tad distracted by these cool ass like gauntlets that extend a little blade perfect for all kinds of spec ops tacticool use

11 months ago

Caleb James

Leaf here, I like it but it was definitely made with ease, speed and economy of manufacturing in mind. It's Light, short, slim, reliable, pretty accurate, easy to strip and clean. But the sights are atrocious, the ergos are an afterthought, and modularity clearly ranked below ergos as a priority.

The trigger is honestly inoffensive. The trigger pull has no "break" but it is light and smooth and then the rifle just goes off at some point. It's weird but I wouldn't say it's bad.

Why aren't they used more widely?Bullpups as an individual weapon have a lot of pros, but at the end of the day, they will be more expensive than a standard configuration rifle, and complicates training and logistics with left handed shooters. From a big picture standpoint they can be unappealing.

They're replacing them with a standard looking rifleI'll believe it when I see it. Like the US, the PLA has run more than one "QBZ replacement trial" program in the last decade and none of them have stuck. The QBZ meanwhile is going through another upgrade program to make them compatible with off-the-shelf optics.

Combining bullpup design with battle rifle cartridge would be awesome. What kind of loading construct could support that?

I like it but it was definitely made with ease, speed and economy of manufacturing in mind. It's Light, short, slim, reliable, pretty accurate, easy to strip and clean. As expected from mass-produced rifle meant for wide-spread military deployment with AK-like mechanism. One of the reasons I'm interested in this is precisely because of that mechanism, it's intimately familiar, and that it's military rifle. I'm suspicious of anything that isn't proven in service, would never put money on such. Done any tests how much soot it can take in gas pipe and lock before malfunctioning?

The trigger pull has no "break" but it is light and smooth and then the rifle just goes off at some point. It's weird but I wouldn't say it's bad.Sounds like shotgun trigger.

11 months ago

Ian Cook

my shotgun has a pretty defined breakur a shitgun chink guns are pretty gr8 for functionality

Didn't debut as a massive trainwreck due to improper ammo with powder it was not designed to clearDidn't debut as an overhyped poster kid paraded to be the main weapon of every nation only to be used in a few skirmishes and then forgotten soon afterwardsDidn't debut with any major design flawsIsn't a kikegunIsn't a literally who gun that got soon replaced by HKshitHas multiple variants to represent an entire nation's armyIt's a shame that it was made by China but she's still a good girl.

11 months ago

Elijah Sanders

it's just a cuckpup with a meme round. chinks have made much better guns anyway, my dad's MAK 90 is still in great condition.get out of my country 张伟 :^)

11 months ago

Liam White

My dad's AK ripoff is still in great conditionI'm talking indigenous design here.

11 months ago

Noah Thompson

stupid gaijin, gunpowder is an indigenous design to china

11 months ago

Levi Martin

Export models are in 5.56. They don't export their meme round.stupid gaijinchina何？

Their entire standing army is on QBZ95 by now afaik and AK's being phased out due to caliber incompatibility. Pic is new 9mm QBZ-like 9mm variant for police so they are doubling down on it if anything.

Is pretty much the same as an ak that only had rails on the handgaurd. My friend had an sks and didn’t want to fudd it up too bad so he got a rail replacement for the gas tube and put a red dot on it. It’s really not that hard to see, and the distance from your eye to the sight would be even shorter on an 416/AR.

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