tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20056539.post1987653576129889337..comments2015-03-03T03:31:47.914-08:00Comments on Movin' Meat: The times, they are a-changin'shadowfaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11648279307230813762noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20056539.post-39111692946749879962009-02-02T14:14:00.000-08:002009-02-02T14:14:00.000-08:00Catron gives a couple of good examples, too. Like...Catron gives a couple of good examples, too. Like SCHIP doesn't have anything to do with Children and the most efficient means of providing healthcare to people aren't working.<BR/><BR/>You know, stuff like that.<BR/><BR/>I assume he was coming to my defense.JimIIhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15490036980295467544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20056539.post-50333138448829519292009-02-02T14:12:00.000-08:002009-02-02T14:12:00.000-08:00Sorry. I will be more clear."When will we learn th...Sorry. I will be more clear.<BR/><BR/>"When will we learn that gov't intervention means greater cost and poorer outcomes." <BR/><BR/>This is based on a lie that when we work together through the government things are done poorly and cost more. It is a Republican talking point that is just repeated over an over again. You can tell how untrue it is by the frequency of the repetition. (The frequency with which a talking point is used is proportional to the inverse of its truthfulness.)<BR/><BR/>Other lies are things like cutting taxes is the best thing for the GDP and that the world is only 6000 years old. These are similarly often repeated and false.<BR/><BR/>Fighting lies with the truth has generally been unsuccessful, particularly virulent strains of lies like these. So, perhaps we should fight them with lies.<BR/><BR/>Then I told a lie to support my position. Private medicine is killing our children, so we need to socialize medicine. It sounds like I'm making a point, but since the thing I'm writing isn't true, I'm really not.<BR/><BR/>I hoped to demonstrate how unhelpful it is to just repeat lies when you are trying to have a discussion about something important. I obviously failed.JimIIhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15490036980295467544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20056539.post-55966041820501672562009-02-01T05:25:00.000-08:002009-02-01T05:25:00.000-08:00It does look like the momentum for reform is conti...<EM>It does look like the momentum for reform is continuing to build</EM><BR/><BR/>Reform? I think not. The momentum is beginning to "build" mainly for expansion of existing programs that every sentient being knows are fiscally unsustainable. <BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, the real problems besetting health care a being ignored (presumably to provide time for Tom Dachle to make kickback deals with his health care clients).<BR/><BR/>As to the SCHIP expansion, it's about children only in the sense that you have to be a child to think this expansion has anything to do with actual kids.Catronhttp://www.healthcarebs.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20056539.post-7828788390875319022009-01-31T17:11:00.000-08:002009-01-31T17:11:00.000-08:00wow, Jim. I know we're generally on the same page...wow, Jim. I know we're generally on the same page, but that might have been the most incoherent thing you've ever written. Seriously.shadowfaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11648279307230813762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20056539.post-90034097563063713722009-01-31T14:19:00.000-08:002009-01-31T14:19:00.000-08:00Doesn't the US spend more on health care than evil...Doesn't the US spend more on health care than evil socialist Europeans? <BR/><BR/>Also, cutting marginal tax rates adds .30 dollars to the GDP for every dollar of cut, while public works spending adds 1.50 dollars.<BR/><BR/>Also, dinosaurs were real and the earth is 4.5 billion years old.<BR/><BR/>* * * *<BR/><BR/>Of course, as Al Franken points out, fighting Republican talking points with the truth has been only modestly effective. So, I will instead respond with the following lie. <BR/><BR/>Doc asks, "When will we learn that gov't intervention means greater cost and poorer outcomes."<BR/><BR/>Since the United States ended its gov't sponsored health care, 50% of all children born in America have died due to medical malpractice. For the sake of our children, we must reinstate government funded health care in the U.S.<BR/><BR/>Remember: that was a lie.JimIIhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15490036980295467544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20056539.post-52613186450384249652009-01-30T18:24:00.000-08:002009-01-30T18:24:00.000-08:00I will only point out that "children" can be up to...I will only point out that "children" can be up to 25 yrs old, and that the bill will be an incentive for families to drop private insurance to switch over to gov't plans. A prediction or 2.....it will quickly become many times more costly than planned, and reimbursement will be so low that no doc will participate. When will we learn that gov't intervention means greater cost and poorer outcomes.dochttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04788869994372179171noreply@blogger.com