Kate Winslet covers the new issue of Glamour UK, the February issue. I assume she’s promoting Labor Day, which… I don’t know, you guys. I think it looks like a funky Hallmark movie and the idea of Josh Brolin and Kate Winslet together romantically just doesn’t do anything for me. Anyway, I think the interview was done shortly before Kate gave birth, and definitely before she named her newborn son BEAR WINSLET. But even before the birth happened, Kate had a lot to say about baby names and the name of her lover/husband, Ned RockNRoll. Honestly, I thought these quotes were hilarious (not intentionally hilarious, but funny all the same):

On the possibility of giving Bear Winslet the name “RockNRoll”: “We haven’t ever really had that conversation; it was always going to have my name. Mia and Joe have it as part of their name, so it would be weird if this baby didn’t. Of course we’re not going to call it RocknRoll. People might judge all they like, but I’m a f–king grown-up.”

Whether she cares about losing the baby weight: “Having just had a baby, I’m not going to be thinking about my arse.”

She still wonders if she’s a good actress: “Acting is bloody scary. I still have moments when I think ‘I can’t do this – everybody thinks I’m absolutely sh*t.”

On her privacy: “When Ned and I got married – the lengths we went to: ‘Don’t tell me over the phone!’ The sad thing is, anyone who was in the public eye, you just expected your phone to be hacked. Still now, I’m having a private conversation, I’ll say, ‘Don’t tell me over the phone.’ The assumption is that if you’re successful you probably think you’re something special, so we probably ought to take you down a peg or two. But I don’t think I’m special at all. The reality is I absolutely love my little life – which is, away from all the other, a little life. I trundle along; we have friends over; I make dinner. It’s weird because the two worlds are so different: from fishfingers for tea to film sets. But that’s the case for any actress who’s a mother. Sure, I could have lots of people who do the cooking, the driving, all that jazz- but I would be unhappy. I wouldn’t want my children raised that way.”

On her refusal to read about herself: “I don’t actually read anything in the press, because if I did, I would be a crazy person. But no one knows about my life. No one knows what’s really happened in my life. Believe me, at the end of the day, all that matters is that I’m not any kind of f–ked-up. No one has a right to comment on anyone’s life or the choices I do or don’t make. It’s very easy to be judgmental until you know someone’s truth. People have no idea at all. The lovely thing for me is that I don’t have to say what’s happened in my life that has taken me down this path. I just can’t even begin to tell you how lucky I am that I suddenly feel I’ve got something wonderful.”

On the media’s harsh remarks about her children: “It’s quite sad that we live in a nation where the press choose to be unkind about the fact that I [had] a baby. It baffles me, truly, that you can publicity treat a person like that. It’s not very nice. I’m really sorry to be the nation’s press that I fell in love and got pregnant; I do apologize if you deem that irresponsible.”

I could parse every single one of these quotes all day long. I love them. But let’s just break down the first part, about the RockNRoll name. First: “We haven’t ever really had that conversation; it was always going to have my name.” So, she got married for the third time and pregnant for the third time and it’s all about this crazy, amazing, life-changing love, but they’ve never sat down and had a conversation about the baby’s surname? That’s weird. Secondly: “Of course we’re not going to call it RocknRoll.” LMAO!!! Gurl, WE TOLD YOU. We told you that you looked like an idiot for falling in love with a dude who changed his name to “Ned RockNRoll.” You didn’t listen. Don’t get all huffy, baby doll! Thirdly: “People might judge all they like, but I’m a f–king grown-up.” Prove it. Prove it by not naming your son BEAR WINSLET.

Also, Winslet had some recent thoughts about Miley Cyrus too:

“You hear horror stories where you think, ‘God, who’s looking after these people and why does it seem like they’re losing their way?’ I mean, you think about someone like Miley Cyrus, and I said to my daughter the other day, ‘I’m this close to opening my mouth about what’s going on with that girl.’ Who is actually saying [to Miley], ‘Stop for a second, what do you want, who are you?’”

I’ve heard a lot of people say this kind of stuff about Miley recently. I think because it was the close of the year and Miley was all over the place in the last half, so it became “the Year of Miley” or “The Year of the Twerk” or whatever. I heard someone – and I will not identify who, but they said it to my face – say that Miley needs to be hosed off and locked up for a year until she figures out how to be in the public eye without being so vapid and stupid.

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So…. is she implying that her husband, who has indeed chosen his new name, is not an adult?

I agree with her about the children from different fathers, it’s not like she planned it that way, you can’t really crucify someone who has kids from different fathers if they’re taking good care of them and this is very much the case. My boyfriend’s ex gf had 4 kids with 4 different fathers..but she did it to have help from the government so she didn’t have to work a day in her life. this is a completely different story because she doesn’t care for the kids, she doesn’t love them and all she wants is a big fat check at the end of the month.

Once again i agree with Kate, please somebody lock Miley and her tongue up. Not for her own good but for us. Because we deserve it too.

“she did it to have help from the government so she didn’t have to work a day in her life.” –People like that piss me off. I just want to punch them in the face. They shouldn’t be allowed to profit by having children they didn’t need to have and don’t take care of. Especially since it’s the public’s tax dollars that fund that shit.

I know.. that woman is a total bitch, she lives off the government paychecks and what the fathers of the kids give her for maintenance. If i think of all the hassle for getting women rights and equality, it is for women like her I sometimes wish i was a man, just to not be filed in the same category.

sounds like she needs to check her math. Most people do not actually make money by having children and getting an increase in the government subsidies. in my state, the allowance for a family of 4 is significantly less than what I spend on my family of 4.

I’m a social worker and I feel like I have to advocate for my clients all the time against stereotypes and worst case scenarios like thus. Situations like that are not the norm.

Agreed MSW, I work in disability law and while yes there are grifters, by no means are these “fat government checks.” I mean, if you think 1000/month is a “fat check” for a family of five….which it isn’t.

Also, 5% of people on goverment assistance are active military. THINK ABOUT THAT, EVERYONE.

Anon33,
Correction: WAY more than 5% of the US military gets government aid. Almost everyone that is an E-6 and below with a family qualifies for something (WIC, food stamps, etc.). Part of the reason is when they set up pay way back when, service members had to be at least an E-6 to get married as they knew that pay for an E-5 and below could not support a family.

She hadn’t given birth yet when this interview was done, right? Maybe they didn’t want to know the gender until the baby was born, in which case, “it” is the gender-neutral pronoun, so that’s correct grammar. This is pretty much exactly what she was talking about, how people judge without ever really knowing what’s going on behind the scenes.

I never got the ire about calling a baby ‘it.’ If you’re my friend and I don’t know the gender yet I’m going to call your baby it because that is a non-prescriptive term. If you get huffy about that we’re better off not remaining friends because you are clearly over sensitive and impractical. FWIW none of my friends have ever minded.

@Paola (and all) who wrote: “My boyfriend’s ex gf had 4 kids with 4 different fathers..but she did it to have help from the government so she didn’t have to work a day in her life. ”

Sorry, I have to hop in here to say how disappointed I am people still insist on saying that ‘the Government’ is subsidizing people with kids.

The fact is that the ‘Government’ hasn’t subsidized anyone since the 1990′s when President Bill Clinton signed away the Government’s role in Public Welfare and turned it all over to the States. Since the 1990′s, the amount of Public Assistance a person with children receives has depended upon whatever plan your individual State has in place. Since the individual States are now responsible, no one person’s ‘Aide’ is the same across the country: Some States dole out a nice amount (I would imagine, the heavily populated states with a high standard of living like New York) and some States barely give people enough to live on anymore.

The State I live in (Ohio) won’t give anybody ‘anything’ … kids or not, unless the recipient agrees to actively search for a job and/or accept a job training program (Nurse’s Aid is the most popular program in Ohio) along with the assistance. And as soon as they finish the training program and are placed in a job, they are cut off of Public Assistance. Their kids may still receive Medical Cards, but the mother is completely cut off. In Ohio, Public Assistance is truly all about the kids.

Please stop buying into the propaganda that ‘lazy’ people everywhere are living off of the Government dole. That just simply hasn’t been the case, in the way you mean it, since the 1990′s. If you (all) missed it … you must be very young or just insist on wearing ideological blinders.

Sorry i didn’t specify i was talking about the Uk and some people actually have kids to have help from the government. And the woman i’m talking about bluntly admits it: she doesn’t have to work because the Government gives her money for having more than 3 kids and every father send her money which she uses not only for the kids but for herself too.

I’m truly not seeing an issue with the name. Probably because I have 3 male friends named Bear. Not all in english. Urs is a very nice name for instance and means Bear. All are extremely successful in their chosen careers and respected. Last time someone made fun of their names was on the school yard so I don”t see how this is an argument to how she’s not an adult. It doesn’t hold water.

I noticed it, but see nothing wrong with it. The baby was not yet born. I would say she either didn’t know the gender of the baby yet (some people still want to be surprised) or she knew & wanted to keep that tidbit to herself. It’s her baby & she can keep that to herself if she wants to! Thus, a sweet little “it.”

I’m more perplexed by her naming him Bear, which is very odd & not play-ground-safe, IMO.

Eliza, I’m beginning to think, from this and some of your other posts, that you are either a cloistered nun who sneaks away to surf the interwebs and is horrified, or the most sanctimonious, uptight person I’ve ever experienced. I too am a fully responsible human being, run my own business, take educational courses, look after my 91 year old mother who lives with me, am a mother to 2 lovely cats and a damn (yes I said DAMN) fine member of society despite swearing. In fact it’s been proven that swearing is good for you, it helps with stress and pain relief. Maybe you should take it up.

I worked for a woman whose daughter is a PA CAA. So she has schlepped for everyone from Tom Cruise to Julia Roberts. I believe the woman is currently Will Ferrell’s full-time personal assistant.

Anyway, I asked the woman once, who was the worst person her daughter worked for? She quickly answered Kate Winslet. I was shocked, kind of. She basically said that Kate was demanding, self absorbed and three kinds of bytch.

I got regalled with the story of how Kate called the woman’s daughter at three in the morning demanding she go to the airport to pick up a package she had sent by plane that had to be delivered to christina aguilera, lol. I believe it was a book or hat or something trivial.

Then of course, she takes it to CA’s house who is also 3 kinds of bytch.

Basically according to the woman’s mother. Kate had a habit….well, made it a point to always call in the dead of night to do the most random shit.

Now before you say time difference, one would think a gal as smart as KW could figure out a way to coordinate her orders with american business hours. As I said, the woman made it a point to call at ‘oh fvck ‘ o clock’ for random shyt.

Oddly enough, the woman’s daughter said Tom Cruise was the nicest celeb she worked for. Whenever she schlepped for him, he was always nice, accomodating and always had lunch or dinner for his peons. Go figure.

FWIW, she doesn’t give me the impression of being overly smart.
I am not calling her stupid – how would I know, anyway? – but I really don’t see any signs of her excessive smarts. It is not indispensable to be particularly intelligent to be a good actor.

My boyfriend, who makes props/special effects for film & TV, says the nastiest actor he ever met is Marlo Thomas…! Said she would walk through a set and if anyone was in her path she would violently push them out of her way. That was just for starters.

I have almost always heard good things about Tom Cruise when it comes to his professionalism. It doesn’t surprise me at all. As long as he doesn’t try to convert his assistants to Scientology, I’d rather work for him than probably anyone else in Hollywood.

I also agree that Kate Winslet doesn’t seem too bright. I just get that from her interviews. She’s a good actress and she’s comfortable with demanding roles that require a ton of nudity, but that doesn’t translate into having common sense in real life.

I live in the Cotswolds, where she used to have a house, and heard the same thing from someone who did some work on their place. Apparently she had two personal assistants who would arrive first and freak out about making everything perfect before she arrived, and yet she goes on about how she has no entourage. It was just gossip so I never really knew how much weight to place on it, but he was very convincing. A family member of hers allegedly said to him when very frustrated that she used to be her image. Sweet, kind, generous. Normal. “She’s not now…” was the next line, apparently.

I thought of that when I read none of her family was at her wedding. Yet she used to take them along to all her award shows in the first decade of her success. But sad, really.

Miley is an idiot praising drugs and posing for a guy who sexually uses models. You can tell when someone is kind of lost and needing help. That said, Kate is holier than thou and can sit down; she married a rich boy with no job. Though I like the way her husband is dressed in the bottom photo.

Exactly so.
Miley hasn’t had three kids to three different fathers, not that this is an issue, but Kate has done this in quick succession. And yet Kate has the audacity to bitch about other celebrities who aren’t full time actors. She should just focus on her own work and not start crap for no reason. If another celebrity wants to smoke pot, stick out their tongue or whatever else, that’s their issue/problem.
I think Kate is going through that stage now where she is not the next hot thing and it’s all getting to her.

This! If she really didn’t care, and really doesn’t read comments about her, she would not be so defensive. That said, y’ll seemed to have missed the part where she notes that her other children have Winslet as PART of their name. By that logic, shouldn’t her baby be called Bear Winslet-Rocknroll? She really doth protest too much.

Question for the person who described Ned Rocknroll as “wealthy”. It is his uncle who is wealthy. I have no idea what Ned does for a living other than dickmatizing Kate.

I read the other thread, when she named the baby, and I don’t understand why people were saying that she was being modern and feminist, etc about naming the baby Winslet. You know, saying that we don’t need to support patriarchy, by always having the man’s last name on the children. I’m not saying that I don’t support that.

But that’s not the case here. She married a man who legally changed his last name to RocknRoll—he may be the most wonderful man (I read that his ex wife said he’s really goofy and eccentric, so whatevs), but that doesn’t change the fact that his last name is ROCKNROLL. And she married him. And had a kid with him. The other two kids have both last names–with their father’s last names being what we see. It’s obvious that she named her new child’s last name Winslet, because Rocknroll is a ridiculous last name. She’s not trying to vanquish patriarchy–she married a dude who has no common sense, that’s what happened.

I don’t understand why she got defensive over it–she married him, had a kid with him. If anything, I would’ve expected the last name to be Winslet-Branson.

I don’t blame her a bit for giving the baby Winslet. RockNRoll is an idiotic name and it isn’t even a family name. I’m sure she told him this from the beginning. I think she can love him yet think his made up name is idiotic. Prince’s wife probably thought he was an imbecile when he changed his name to that symbol, that didn’t mean she didn’t love him or wasn’t a supportive spouse. She may have doubts about him keeping RockNRoll as a last name, and doesn’t feel like having the baby’s name legally changed.

The other weird thing is that she changed her legal name when she married her first husband. She was giggling in an interview about practising her new signature on her bank cards. Yet now she says she’s never changed her name in any marriage. Just very selective memory, really.

I think anyone man or woman who rushes into marriage and pregnancy right after marriage multiple times should take a step back and reevaluate their relationship choices. Yes, she is an adult now, but maybe she should have waited a few more years to get to know her boyfriends before deciding if she wanted to really spend the rest of her life with them. She’s not the only celebrity guilty of this and plenty of normal people do the same which is why the divorce rate is so high. But because she’s a woman and famous, she’s being made into an example of someone who jumps into marriage which has resulted in her being married three times and having babies with three different men. It’s nothing to be proud of, but her love life shouldn’t warrant serious articles and criticism either.

It’s clear that there is a double standard. Men can marry many times to women half their age and father children with 3, 4, 5, or more women without even marrying them, and they are not as heavily scrutinised as a woman like Kate who at least marries the father of her children. Also, her second husband probably had an affair with Rebecca Hall, so at least Kate wasn’t primarily responsible for the end of one of her marriages. Her ex-husband isn’t getting nearly as much criticism for cheating as much as Kate for, as she said, falling in love and having a baby. It’s her life and she has enough money to have as many children as she wants and give them a good life.

The modern family isn’t picture perfect. Having several baby mamas and daddies, extramarital affairs, divorce, and stepchildren are becoming the norm. Winslet isn’t an exception any longer.

They’re openly in a relationship though, which does seem to prove it, surely. I do think she’s been spoiled by Hollywood and fame, but I don’t blame her for her husband leaving her for another woman. And rumour had it her first did the same.

I’m also pretty sure she was married a couple of years before having her first child and then with Mendes another couple before having her second. And there’s ten years between her younger two kids. So I’m not sure why she’s given such a massively hard time. The reality is she married/had a kid very young the first time because she had the money to do it, I think. Most people have to wait a few years these days before they can found a home and family. And that marriage wasn’t solid enough to survive a baby, I suspect because it should never have been more than an early 20s live-in thing.

As much as I dislike Miley she sounds like such a hypocrite dissing her out of one side of her mouth while telling everyone to mind their business about her life. Miley is a dumb hick who is barely 21 and she is probably just going through an (extra) annoying phase and will eventually calm down. Whereas people are slowly becoming aware that the honorable Kate who is pushing 40 has a love life that makes JLo seem like a school marm.

Because they shove Miley down people’s throats!
It’s not like she can sing or dance, but she’s the new train wreck so there’s some new story about her everyday!
And when you have a teenage daughter like Kate does, you may wanna monitor the things she’s exposed to, and provide a little context and commentary!

Miley pushes the envelope in the same way that Cher, Brittany Spears, and MADONNA did. It sells, and that is the point. Look at all the publicity she is getting, and the record sales of her video. Not so bad for a 20 year old. Shocking perhaps, but that is how it is done. Geez, so young and she is pushing the sex card. So does about every advertisement selling almost any product. Perhaps they are more subtle, but sex is a vapid and reliable avenue for revenue. Not that I agree with the sell-out…and quite frankly the invasion of my privacy.

Sounds like a bunch of nit-picking on Kate Winslet. Everyone seems to be coming down on her as if she is a “Scarlet Woman” (remember Nathaniel Hawthorne’s book on church folks judging the sexual woman?). We all live our lives as best as we can, and that’s hard enough, don’t you think? God, if any of us were so exposed to virulent criticism over any of the sad, vulnerable, shameful things we feel that we might have done, we would look to our finer moments to feel balanced; so we were able to continue to look forward, to continue trying to get it right. Kate seems to feel good about herself, and is pleased with her choices, so good for her! That is what we all aspire to.

IT?
So babies are just objects for her? She accumulates them after every relationship I guess.
The baby is a he, not an ‘it’.
She is shameless and vulgar.
She talks about the media talking about her and her children in a particular way, but she referred to her latest baby as an ‘it’.
Does she even have a few functioning brain cells or listen to herself?

You’ve made this comment a few times now and seem to be drawing a lot of information from it about how she is as a person. This interview was done before the baby was born. She may not have known the gender or wanted to reveal it in the interview, hence referring to the unborn child as an “it”.

I responded to you above and will repeat myself here because I’m genuinely confused. If someone is pregnant (as I am) and doesn’t know the baby’s sex (as I don’t), what pronoun do you want them to use? Saying “him or her” all the time gets clunky fast, and just picking one at random confuses people. “It” is kind of the only option I got, unless there’s something I’m missing.

I remember someone exploding on a mother about this in a mom and baby cafe session. Mom attacked politely explained that English was her second language and “it” is correct in her first. It was very funny because to be honest the self-righteousness of judging someone over something that small was a bit over the top.

“It” is normal when you don’t know the gender or don’t want to reveal it. Hence people asking, as mentioned below “is it a boy or a girl?” or “when’s it due?”

Everyone’s jumping on her for calling the baby “it.” She did the interview before the baby was born; maybe she didn’t even know the sex at the time (not everyone opts to find that out). And even if she knew, she may not have wanted the information released before the baby was born. Lots of people use the “it” pronoun for their babies for exactly those reasons.

A lot of people do it, but the United Mom Workers Union tends to get bent out of shape any time it’s suggested that children are not the center of the universe and there might be parents who don’t prioritize every last thing about their child.

Children should be a TOP priority to every parent or don’t have any.
We would have a less messed up world, if parents would raise their kids to be decent, honest, hardworking, kind and humble human beings. If you can’t raise them right or don’t want to, at least give them up for adoption, so they might have a chance to grow up right. Selfish people should not have children. The kids raised today wrong are teachers, police officers, cab drivers or criminals in the future. So how we are raised does matter a great deal! to ALL of us!

Only one person is jumping on her for saying it. That person just seems oddly obsessed with that detail and feels the need to bring it up over and over. Never mind the common question “Is IT a boy or a girl?” Or that birth announcements usually say “IT’S a…”

If the interview was actually done prior to the birth what is the issue with referring to the child as it? That is a personal choice as are the vicious comments attacking Kate. The blogger clearly states the interview happened prior to the child’s birth.

The issue I see here appears largely to be one of the lack of reader comprehension and the desire to pile crap on Kate. Madonna has 4 children by 4 different men only one of whom she married and there was that stink when she adopted Mercy about whether she legally had the right to adopt the girl or she used her affluence and influence to adopt her and remove her from the country. Lets also not forget the string of 20 something men Madonna parades in front of them. She also adopted Mercy when her then husband clearly did not want another child and their marriage was coming apart. Hardly seems like something done to a partner or family by a responsible person.

I think these comments regarding Kate are overwrought, holier-than-thou and ridiculously PC correct.

Not that I disagree, but as a pedant: Madonna had 2 bio kids by 2 fathers. The adopted 2 you’d hardly expect to share the paternal DNA, and anyway both her sons, adopted and bio, have the same father legally as he adopted her son with her. And I don’t even like Madonna. But you might as well say Angelina Jolie has 4 fathers for her kids, because Brad only contributed DNA to the bio ones. Adoption isn’t somewhere you can make those claims.

Not that the claims make much sense to me anyway, if the parents are mature and work together for the kids. Which in fairness Winslet and her exes do seem to do.

She annoys me. Greatly. For someone who’s got her panties in a twist over random people judging her, maybe she should stop judging Miley. No one cares what you think of her. As I’m sure Kate doesn’t care (but sounds like she does) what the rest of the world thinks of her choices (husband’s name, child’s name, blah blah blah).

“For someone who’s got her panties in a twist over random people judging her”

Not only that, but she seems to enjoy the idea – false, for all I know – that people are “judging” her. The great majority of people don’t really care how she lives her life.
But she seems to enjoy going out of her way to be “defiant” in the face of … nothing much.

She does seem defensive. I get the impression that the criticism of her private life hurt, and I can’t blame her for wanting to fight back a little, especially since I don’t think her life is THAT worthy of criticism. But at this point I think she might be better off ignoring it. If she and her husband and her family are all happy, then who cares about the rest?

I don’t understand all the hate I’m seeing in here, but whatever. I love her, and she shouldn’t give a crap about none of it. And I can’t believe people are still clutching their pearls over her husband’s last name. Yeah, he changed it to that. Get over it.

Ehhh… her body, her choice of the last name, she can give the child her own …or not. Either way it’s not my problem. If/when I’m in that situation, I’ll make my own decisions, regardless of what anyone else thinks. A bit silly to discuss something that’s strictly cosmetic. Besides, if the kid doesn’t like it, he might end up changing it someday as well. At least he has and will have the option. Not all countries allow that.

I couldn’t care less what she names her kids. It’s silly and shallow, but not a real issue. I do, however, take issue with having multiple children by multiple men. It doesn’t matter if she has the resources to take care of them financially or that she is a loving and attentive mother. That’s nice, but it doesn’t replace or fulfill a child’s need for both parents under the same roof. There is a reason why tradition encourages us to have children w/in marriage. Kids need both parents full time. That doesn’t mean that kids who don’t have that won’t be healthy or successful, but they are the exception not the norm. Anybody sticking up for illegitimate children by multiple fathers are only justifying their own scenario. Show me a child who upon adulthood would say they were glad they didn’t have a dad or were glad they and their siblings all had different dads. The best they can hope for is a loving parent and stepparent, but let’s be real, most stepparents are not capable of the same kind of unconditional love that a biological parent naturally feels. People can argue it all they want, but there is a built-in tolerance and devotion in parents for their own children. Ms. Winslet’s stating she’s a f*ing grown up sounds as if her kids are objects she has right to create and own, not helpless human beings who didn’t ask for the circumstances they are born into. On being a grown up – Just because you can do something, doesn’t necessarily mean you should. That’s selfish and narcissistic.

“That’s nice, but it doesn’t replace or fulfill a child’s need for both parents under the same roof.”
“People can argue it all they want, but there is a built-in tolerance and devotion in parents for their own children. ”

I’d like to live in this fantasy land you call home. There are lots of bad parents and lots of parents in unhappy marriages. Having both parents under the same roof doesn’t guarantee a child will have a happy life. My best friend’s parents stayed married because it was “the right thing to do” and everyone was miserable. A kid having to watch a toxic relationship is worse than having separated parents.

@JenniferJustice: With that neo-Victorian attitude, I sincerely hope that you are pro-choice.

A person can grow up a healthy, decent member of society whether their parents were married. And no, healthy, decent people whose parents were unmarried are not ‘the exception’, just as healthy, decent people who’s parents WERE married are not the rule. It depends on how they’re being raised and what their home life is like. In school I saw no difference between the kids whose parents were married and the ones whose parents were not.

“There is a reason why tradition encourages us to have children w/in marriage. Kids need both parents full time. That doesn’t mean that kids who don’t have that won’t be healthy or successful, but they are the exception not the norm. Anybody sticking up for illegitimate children by multiple fathers are only justifying their own scenario.”

Kate hasn’t had children outside marriage. Therefore, I don’t get your point. I haven’t read anyone, including Kate, “sticking up for illegitimate children by multiple fathers”.

Oh, come on, she sure sounds very defensive and well informed about the critisizm she has received in regards to her third marriage for someone who as she stated doesn’t read about herself.
I don’t care, if it’s Clint Eastwood or Kate Winslet, male or female, but
3 kids with 3 different men and she is not even 40 years old is not good sign. I have no idea what the reasons are for her 2 divorces, maybe Sam Mendes cheated, maybe he didn’t, we have no way of knowing unless he admits it. Regardless, if I would have been Kate Winslet, I would have certainly waited a few years before beginning new relationships, after divorces before marrying again and having children. Why not wait 2-3 years at least after 2 divorces to have a baby with a brand new husband. I would especially have
waited to bring a child into a new relantionship having had some failures in the past. She knows she is in the public eye, she benefits from publicity in the media. Did she not think that some people might bring her private life into focus when she seems to be hopping from man to man (not just husbands) and divorcing, having kids with them? Plus making unneccessary comments about custody arrangments to the media in her interviews, she is literally inviting critics to comment. Marrying someone who on purpose changed their name to RockandRoll and than complaining that press and the public noticed how strange that is surprises her, vow, how clueless is she??? It says a lot that she has to swear left and right to make her point, I guess it tells us that she doesn’t really have a sound argument besides the f- word.
This from a woman who is so against plastic surgery for herself, right! She doesn’t have to comment, but at least do not speak untrue, we do have eyes, lady. You certainly do look different.
Yes, Cyrus to me looks and acts like a desperate, cheap skank that is trying way to hard to appear sexy, hot and as far away as possible from her good girl Disney image, she forgot the part that true talent is what really matters more than how crude and gross can one be – see Adele, not skin and bone, not half naked with nothing left to the imagination, but so very talented and succesful.

Well Miley is new Lindsay Lohan. She literally replaced her. Just like Lohan she does idiotic and embarrassing things. Just like with Lohan – everyone thinks that she is joke and laugh at her. And just like Lohan – Miley seriously doesn’t understand that she is joke in people’s mind and acts like she is serious and respected star. When even hollywood actors and musicians publicly basically say in interviews that they think that Miley is joke and that she should take care of her behavior before it’s too late.

While Miley sits on her Twitter and thinks that she is new Madonna – A-list Oscar winner Kate Winslet tells her that she is idiot that everyone laughs at. Miley lives in her own little bubble. And thinks that she is powerful queen of the world. While in reality people take her as seriously and respect her as much as they do Lohan and Bieber.

It was too late for Lohan to understand it. She was acting like she was respected actress who just went bad and everything will be fine once she will sort out her problems. Finally she did. And just vanished from public eye, because people lost interest in her and certainly no one cares to see her acting in movies.

She’s gotten angrier and angrier about the press and gossip in the past year than she ever was in her entire career. She’s been famous since she did … what was that movie? It’ll come to me. She did when she was 17 years old. Oh, HEAVENLY CREATURES. That was it. She has been A-list for a long, long time. And suddenly she’s super angry at the press. Could it be that it never occurred to her that she too could be mocked and made fun of like most other celebs are? Did she think she was impervious to criticism? I don’t agree with the press making celebrities’ lives hell, bugging phones and such. It is wrong and immoral. But she’s only angry all of a sudden because she married a douche with a douche-y name and had yet ANOTHER baby with yet another husband, and she just caught on that her life is sort of chuckle-inducing to normal people.

I think KW is a very, very gifted actress, and also a very beautiful woman. On the other hand, I do think (on the basis of her interviews over the years, and the course her private life has taken) she is probably also high-maintenance, somewhat self-centred, stubborn and probably has quite a temper, too. Mature is certainly not the word I would use to describe her.

Agree 100% with everything you just said. My impression is that she is immature, easily annoyed/rattled, not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and doesn’t think long-term life decisions through enough before jumping in.

The reason why she sounds defensive is probably because not too long ago, people were slut-shaming her for having 3 kids by 3 different husbands. I don’t believe most celebrities when they say that they don’t pay attention to the negative, hateful, or bigoted things that are said about them.

Also, I don’t think what she said about Miley was overly judgmental or NEARLY as problematic as what others have said. I just think they’re the opinions of someone who finds Miley’s ‘wildness’ to be shocking and tragic. I don’t. I just see a pop star who clearly wasn’t/isn’t happy about previous expectations of her and has decided to make an attention-getting career out of being the complete opposite of all that right now.

I have always loved Kate as an actress, I love English people and history. ( I’m American). I don’t find anything wrong with her. Nobody is perfect and I don’t think all this backlash over her third marriage and child I’d deserved. Its her life and she takes care of her kids.

Of course a traditional family is not the reality of our world. I said it was something to strive for.
How an adoptive child/adoptive-foster parent would imply they are in the same category as the parents of the very children they adopt is beyond me. A couple or person consciously seeking out children to bring into their home because they know they have something to offer abused, neglected children or those put up for adoption are the polar opposite of the parents of the children rescued. You compare apples to oranges. Do not assume that stating biological parents have an innate love and natural tolerance for their children means nobody else can love children. If someone makes a concerted effort to bring children into their family, of course they bond with and love their children completely…almost always. But the children being rescued are in need of rescuing due to what originated as a grown up’s poor choices. We’re talking about these grown ups’ poor choices.
Sit in your circuit’s family court division for an afternoon and watch case after case involving children whose stepparents resent and abuse them, whose mothers choose their new man over their own kids’ well-being and turn a blind eye, who are very aware that they are not wanted and that their little brother or sister who is the stepparent’s biological child is treated like differently and then tell me that striving for a traditional family unit is an archaic attitude. There are children from challenging circumstances who aspire to persevere. But these are strong kids. Most children succumb to suffering and are damaged either emotionally or mentally. It is terrifyingly easy to break a child’s spirit. Sometimes, blended families work out much better together than they did as two single-parent families, but again ,that is not the majority. I know of what I speak and you may now think I’m jaded, but I’m simply exposed and informed. I stand by my stance that purposely having multiple children by multiple men is selfish and narcissistic. Taking risks with other people’s lives is irresponsible.

I never understand the celebs that claim to not read the stuff written about them yet they spend the majority of their interviews talking about what is written about them. If Kate didn’t care about what people are saying about her relationship or children she would not address it in her interview. She covered a lot of celebrity gossip; even bringing up Miley who is none of her business and not her child.