Let me make it clear from the first sentence I am in no way calling him a scammer just a bad/shady seller( my opinion) But here is the story and im going to let you decide yourself..

Original deal was my orion 2500d(with a slight whine noise) for his sundown saz3000d (1 blown fet) We were both going to ship the same day Tuesday, November 11, 2008 which in fact did happen. Upon my amps arrival to him (orion 2500d) he hooked it up. He stated (through aim, his name blocked for privacy)

I thought cool my amp got there safe but went to the kitchen to inspect the damage more. The sudnown was packaged very, very nice and not 1 sign of any visible damage to the packaging inside or out, no kick marks,scuffs,scrapes,etc. (nothing that would ever near come anywhere close to winning a claim)

shown here

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/brtnboarder3241/PICT1115.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/brtnboarder3241/PICT1116.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/brtnboarder3241/PICT1118.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/brtnboarder3241/PICT1117.jpg

So as i went over the amp i looked at the power ground side clean, now I looked back at the rca side. I looked and realized the side was dented in(stated in the im above). So as i did i took a screwdriver and unscrewed the 4 screws holding the bottom plate on(to check the insides which the buttons etc were pushed back into it). And upon putting it back on it didn't want to fit. (because of the awkwardness from the damage to the amp.)

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/brtnboarder3241/PICT1111.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t307/brtnboarder3241/PICT1112.jpg

(sorry for the 1 bad picture)

Ill try to be brief. So after I stated this it was indeed dented to him. He immediately stated "that's ******". And became pretty hard to contact after that. Well fast forward things to NOVEMBER 24TH, 2008(nothing but filler between him hooking my amp up on nov 13th. and now) but just me trying to contact him(since he either wouldn't respond or kept telling me he would get back to me) and what he wanted to do. Well when i indeed did get a hold of him he stated

brtnboarder3241 (9:04:37 PM): so did u think of anything man
XXXXXX (9:05:31 PM): nope...i got bad news about the 2500d too...friday night i decided it didnt want to work and started puttin a popping nosie threw my subs then blue som resistors the next day

brtnboarder3241 (9:05:55 PM): sorry to hear that
brtnboarder3241 (9:06:00 PM): pics?
XXXX (9:06:20 PM): yeah hopefully i can get it fixed here at school..and i ant got no pics but could grab a few
brtnboarder3241 (9:06:32 PM): id appreciate if you could get some pics
XXXXX (9:06:37 PM): ok i will
brtnboarder3241 (9:06:40 PM): k
XXXXXX (9:06:42 PM): give me a sec
brtnboarder3241 (9:06:44 PM): k
XXXXX (9:10:16 PM): i just got to put them up on photobucket (which upon pics were sent)
brtnboarder3241 (9:12:05 PM): k.. i understand that this happened and im sorry it did.. fact is (im not trying to be an *** in anyway..just stating the obvious) i got an amp that had a smashed in side.. you got an amp that was more than perfect.. whether what happened was a user error? i really do not know and im not blaming you for it.. its been a run around to get ahold of you man with the amp its been more than a week and im just getting tired of it.. i was hoping you thought of something to compensate

this is now 11days after having my amp. So he asked what i wanted to do about the side being smashed in and rcas. We agreed upon 50$ partial for the damage and this was close to the amount difference between what it cost me to ship 64$ and what it cost him $26. He then said he was going to ask his mom for (since she was managing it) his money. Why? i do not know. This was Saturday the 29th of November. He said he would get back to me the next day Sunday the 30th. Ok well to try to make it short he got back to me today December 2nd 2008 and said he cant give me anything to compensate and he continued to go on how he received my amp and it only worked for him for a few days(he stated he unhooked it and left for a week and came back plugged it back in "worked for a few hours" then it broke. He is saying since this happened it is indeed even.

[17:48] brtnboarder3241: dont take this personall bad
[17:48] brtnboarder3241: but then how is it even(or considered my fault)
[17:48] brtnboarder3241: ?
[17:48] xxxxxx: im not sayin was your fault
[17:48] brtnboarder3241: but from what you were saying we were "even"
[17:49] brtnboarder3241: or at least portraying man
[17:49] xxxxxxx: yeah
[17:49] brtnboarder3241: why are we even
[17:49] brtnboarder3241: i got a less described amp
[17:49] brtnboarder3241: u got a better descrbed amp
[17:49] brtnboarder3241: ?
[17:49] xxxxxxx: did i gaurente that is was goin to be delivered in perfect condition execpt for it bein blown

So when asked if anything was going to come out of this he stated he could wait a month and see whats going on otherwise basically no.(my immediate thoughts were he had no intentions of paying me from the way he was acting even from day 1 when it happened)

Sorry this is long but i felt the need to express the whole situation why i consider him a shady seller but not a scammer.

If I think of anything to add to make the situation more clear than i will.

CLIFFS: Although to understand and comprehend what happened the initial story more than likely needs to be read but here. Got an amp(blown saz3000d) in a trade for my orion 2500d(slight whine noise) from him. I get it the rcas are dented and so is the side and partial controls(slightly) and side he gets my amp stated better than described he slowed his contact with me then stated my amp sent to him broke on him after having it in for 11days (but supposedly only used for a few hours) Says we are even now and nothing he can do

Im not saying do not buy from him. Just stating a "caution" for the other users on this board why they should make sure everything is good and why i will never buy from him again

Thank you, stay warm, and have a good evening.

EDIT: I'm stating the reasons why not to deal with him because of how i was treated and you can do business at your own risk

poundindak69

12-02-2008, 08:59 PM

how am i shaddy may i ask... i tried to work things out but since i am in school with no funds coming in i am unable to compensate you for what has happened to the amp...i am willing to keep to my word and pay you when i get some money.

and the only reason it was hard to get ahold of me was that i was in the process of moving into my new apartment which i think i told you.

Rashaddd

12-02-2008, 09:01 PM

[17:49] xxxxxxx: did i gaurente that is was goin to be delivered in perfect condition execpt for it bein blown

=scammer in my book unless he's going to make it right.

That's like me sending someone a blown amp, telling them its blown before I send it, and turns out its also missing the back plate and looks like it was dropped off a roof repeatedly. That's bs. It is HIS responsibility to inform the buyer of any issue, not your responsibility to ask. As far as I'm concerned if he won't make it right, he's a scammer. Period.

rollerdj

12-02-2008, 09:03 PM

good post. more people need to take notes on this. i talked to him about this amp several times. never said anything about dented sides.

poundindak69

12-02-2008, 09:03 PM

=scammer in my book unless he's going to make it right.

That's like me sending someone a blown amp, telling them its blown before I send it, and turns out its also missing the back plate and looks like it was dropped off a roof repeatedly. That's bs. It is HIS responsibility to inform the buyer of any issue, not your responsibility to ask. As far as I'm concerned if he won't make it right, he's a scammer. Period.

but when i packaged amp the rca plate was not bent..i know this for a fact...and if it was i would of informed him about it

brtnboarder3241

12-02-2008, 09:04 PM

how am i shaddy may i ask... i tried to work things out but since i am in school with no funds coming in i am unable to compensate you for what has happened to the amp...i am willing to keep to my word and pay you when i get some money.

and the only reason it was hard to get ahold of me was that i was in the process of moving into my new apartment which i think i told you.

it is now decemeber 2nd..i can understand it takes time but not near that much from my moving experience, especially for an 18 year old

yeah i know, i will admit i did sometimes have bad contact cause i would forget when i would get a im on my phone.

poundindak69

12-02-2008, 09:08 PM

how the **** does someone dent an amp like that? carelessness? lol

i liek how i get blamed for denting the amp when i stated it was packaged without the dent.

brtnboarder3241

12-02-2008, 09:09 PM

how the **** does someone dent an amp like that? carelessness? lol

he did infact state this

which i am sorry i left out(again aim name not reviled for privacy)

brtnboarder3241 (2:52:13 PM): cool cool... did u think of anything you could do with the damage on this amp or no?
XXXXXX (2:52:56 PM): no i mean i always handled it with care even after it broke
XXXX (2:53:14 PM): they only time im think in when i shipped it when it was in my car
brtnboarder3241 (2:53:46 PM): hell like i said i even saw the pics u took and it wasnt like that
XXXXXXX (2:54:31 PM): yeah it prolly did it cause i t was in the car werid...like it was behind my seat on the floor layin againt the back seat
brtnboarder3241 (2:55:09 PM): so u think it happened in the car?
XXXXXX(2:55:22 PM): could've

poundindak69

12-02-2008, 09:10 PM

I'd say that pretty much implies you just decided to omit the info

and I've seen a pic on here of a sundown 3kd that had a bent side EXACTLY like that a few weeks ago.

but i stated that if i did know about i would inform the person cause they have the right to know if was bent

brtnboarder3241

12-02-2008, 09:12 PM

Like I stated i am not calling him a scammer or implying it (just a shady seller).. Im off to the gym right now and will be on when i get back.. if anyone wants to get a hold of me for any reason

pm on here or brtnboarder3241 on aim...

Thanks

revrider1

12-02-2008, 09:12 PM

Interesting

NewAgeKing

12-02-2008, 09:19 PM

Shady. He needs to pay for a new end plate and possible rca jacks.

poundindak69

12-02-2008, 09:23 PM

Shady. He needs to pay for a new end plate and possible rca jacks.

i've stated and told him that i would pay the 50 we agreed on but it would have to wait as i have no income comeing in at the moment

poundindak69

12-02-2008, 09:23 PM

........

poundindak69

12-02-2008, 09:23 PM

******* (10:16:14 PM): the only thing i can think of doin for you is that if you ship it in for repair i can pay the shipping for it or somethin liek that
brtnboarder3241 (10:16:33 PM): i was thinking u reinburst me for shipping if thats at all possible?
brtnboarder3241 (10:16:49 PM): i am not at all blaming you for anything
********** (10:16:56 PM): yeah i understand that
brtnboarder3241 (10:16:58 PM): but it did happen from when you sent yours out and me receving it...
brtnboarder3241 (10:17:09 PM): and i mean i payed 64$ for you to get the amp safely
brtnboarder3241 (10:17:16 PM): thats a hell of a lot of money..
(10:17:35 PM): yeah so youwant me to give you 64 back or just the difference?
brtnboarder3
brtnboarder3241 (10:17:22 PM): to sihp 2-3 states away
********* 241 (10:17:36 PM): guy shipped to canada and it was cheaper
********(10:17:51 PM): i think it was the box they put it in
brtnboarder3241 (10:18:07 PM): its the only box that would fit it
******** (10:18:17 PM): ****
brtnboarder3241 (10:18:25 PM): u saw how long the amp box was
********* (10:18:39 PM): yeah it was about as big as mine
brtnboarder3241 (10:18:46 PM): lol not even
brtnboarder3241 (10:19:05 PM): the sundowqn amp was almost as long
brtnboarder3241 (10:19:13 PM): but the orion box was a lot bigger
******** (10:19:24 PM): yeah cause of the end caps
brtnboarder3241 (10:21:49 PM): true
******** (10:21:58 PM): yep
********* (10:26:25 PM): well im gonna hit the hay.......let me know cause im up for reinburst the different of what you paid and i paid or if you got any other ides
brtnboarder3241 (10:28:15 PM): ok illl let you know by tomorrow man.. that cool?

rollerdj

12-02-2008, 09:25 PM

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=360820

post number 27, second pic show's that end. no damage at that time. it was not to long ago. doesn't mean it wasn't damage afterwards though.

poundindak69

12-02-2008, 09:27 PM

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=360820

post number 27, second pic show's that end. no damage at that time. it was not to long ago. doesn't mean it wasn't damage afterwards though.

yeah but it wasnt after the pics it went straight back to sitting on my desk until it got traded for

NewAgeKing

12-02-2008, 09:28 PM

I do like the tape job on the box though.

poundindak69

12-02-2008, 09:29 PM

I do like the tape job on the box though.

thats how i recieved(sp?) the box from the person i bought it from

revrider1

12-02-2008, 09:29 PM

I do like the tape job on the box though.Lmao ;)

Rashaddd

12-02-2008, 09:31 PM

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=360820

post number 27, second pic show's that end. no damage at that time. it was not to long ago. doesn't mean it wasn't damage afterwards though.

Hmm...all I know is I remember very recently seeing an amp that looked just like this one, bent like that, seem to remember it being a 3kd but I can't say for sure, same looking jacks almost same picture even...I searched but can't find, maybe someone else remembers seeing it as well?

poundindak69

12-02-2008, 09:32 PM

Hmm...all I know is I remember very recently seeing an amp that looked just like this one, bent like that, seem to remember it being a 3kd but I can't say for sure, same looking jacks almost same picture even...I searched but can't find, maybe someone else remembers seeing it as well?

maybe you did

NewAgeKing

12-02-2008, 09:32 PM

thats how i recieved(sp?) the box from the person i bought it from

Oh my bad. I just like tape, thats all.

rollerdj

12-02-2008, 09:32 PM

Hmm...all I know is I remember very recently seeing an amp that looked just like this one, bent like that, seem to remember it being a 3kd but I can't say for sure, same looking jacks almost same picture even...I searched but can't find, maybe someone else remembers seeing it as well?

i agree. but i've seen so many freakin F/S posts, i can't remeber much about it.

poundindak69

12-02-2008, 09:33 PM

Oh my bad. I just like tape, thats all.

as do i.....helps hold the box together but i did add some tape on there

brtnboarder3241

12-03-2008, 09:56 AM

seems like no problem to contact me now :confused: u imed me at 6:58 this morning

poundindak69

12-03-2008, 06:34 PM

seems like no problem to contact me now :confused: u imed me at 6:58 this morning

658 it was like 820 here where im at when i imed you.

vitveet

12-03-2008, 11:23 PM

Hope you guys get this worked out!
Got a question for poundinkak69....you currently have no income but you just moved into a new apartment???? Where's the rent money coming from? Just wondering.

V.

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 12:15 AM

Hope you guys get this worked out!
Got a question for poundinkak69....you currently have no income but you just moved into a new apartment???? Where's the rent money coming from? Just wondering.

V.

thank you man

and to poundinka69

my phone read 6:58am your 1 hour ahead of me so 7:58 am to be exact there is no time zone that is an hour and 20 minutes ahead

CantGetEnufBASS

12-04-2008, 12:25 AM

this poundinka69 guy sounds like a *******. ill make sure to steer clear.

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 12:33 AM

WHOOAA.. just went back through ims

Thursday, November 20, 2008
brtnboarder3241 (8:58:23 PM): hey
xxxxx (8:58:23 PM): around here somwhere then bed..........
Friday, November 21, 2008
brtnboarder3241 (12:39:22 AM): what happened today man uu didnt get back to me..
xxxx (12:39:22 AM): around here somwhere then bed..........
Saturday, November 22, 2008
brtnboarder3241 (1:48:44 PM): hey man
sxxxxx (2:42:31 PM): yo ill get at you when i get home, sorry i didnt get at you that other day totally forgot..
brtnboarder3241 (2:42:31 PM): I am away from my computer right now.
i contacted u saturday and u were talking to me.. but didnt bother to tell me the amp blew:confused: but u told me the following monday?!

u said above "YO ILL GET AT YOUR WHEN I GET HOME"... so u indeed were not home that friday.. since that line was stated saturday???

oldschool4me

12-04-2008, 01:01 AM

hope it gets worked out.
to op:
guy agreed to pay 50 bux so give him x amount of time to pay you the money or maybe he has something that you could use for 50 bux or even of more value and then take the 50 off the price.

NewAgeKing

12-04-2008, 01:09 AM

Interesting for sure.

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:57 AM

WHOOAA.. just went back through ims

Thursday, November 20, 2008
brtnboarder3241 (8:58:23 PM): hey
xxxxx (8:58:23 PM): around here somwhere then bed..........
Friday, November 21, 2008
brtnboarder3241 (12:39:22 AM): what happened today man uu didnt get back to me..
xxxx (12:39:22 AM): around here somwhere then bed..........
Saturday, November 22, 2008
brtnboarder3241 (1:48:44 PM): hey man
sxxxxx (2:42:31 PM): yo ill get at you when i get home, sorry i didnt get at you that other day totally forgot..
brtnboarder3241 (2:42:31 PM): I am away from my computer right now.
i contacted u saturday and u were talking to me.. but didnt bother to tell me the amp blew:confused: but u told me the following monday?!

u said above "YO ILL GET AT YOUR WHEN I GET HOME"... so u indeed were not home that friday.. since that line was stated saturday???

i wasnt at home but i was in my home town, cause you were sending messages to my phone.

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 10:05 AM

i wasnt at home but i was in my home town, cause you were sending messages to my phone.

yet the amp blowing up on you was not in any of your top priority to tell me:confused:

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 10:05 AM

Hope you guys get this worked out!
Got a question for poundinkak69....you currently have no income but you just moved into a new apartment???? Where's the rent money coming from? Just wondering.

V.

Thanks a lot man

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 01:45 PM

Hope you guys get this worked out!
Got a question for poundinkak69....you currently have no income but you just moved into a new apartment???? Where's the rent money coming from? Just wondering.

V.

i have 3 months paid for already cause thats how long im in school for....

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 01:47 PM

yet the amp blowing up on you was not in any of your top priority to tell me:confused:

i have a tendancy(sp?) to forget something when im involed in somethin at the moment.

BushJ311

12-04-2008, 01:52 PM

hope it gets worked out.
to op:
guy agreed to pay 50 bux so give him x amount of time to pay you the money or maybe he has something that you could use for 50 bux or even of more value and then take the 50 off the price.

Sounds like a good deal here.

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 01:57 PM

Sounds like a good deal here.

yes it does.....

NewAgeKing

12-04-2008, 02:13 PM

i have a tendancy(sp?) to forget something when im involed in somethin at the moment.

I think thats bullshit. If my amp blew that would be the thing on my mind when im talking to the person who actually sold me the amp.

CantGetEnufBASS

12-04-2008, 04:29 PM

I think thats bullshit. If my amp blew that would be the thing on my mind when im talking to the person who actually sold me the amp.

no shiat right!!???? if anything i would drop everything i was doing and inform the seller IMMEDIATLEY, this guy sounds like hes full of shiat

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 04:46 PM

I think thats bullshit. If my amp blew that would be the thing on my mind when im talking to the person who actually sold me the amp.

no shiat right!!???? if anything i would drop everything i was doing and inform the seller IMMEDIATLEY, this guy sounds like hes full of shiat

im not saying anything :rolleyes: .....yet

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 06:34 PM

im not saying anything :rolleyes: .....yet

ok to correct the last statment i made is that it blew after i talked to you that day...it was like 930-10 o'clock and i remember it was saturday not friday sorry for that.....

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 07:15 PM

ok to correct the last statment i made is that it blew after i talked to you that day...it was like 930-10 o'clock and i remember it was saturday not friday sorry for that.....

:wow:

NewAgeKing

12-04-2008, 07:17 PM

:wow:

Let me know if you want to sell the saz to me:D

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 07:17 PM

ok to correct the last statment i made is that it blew after i talked to you that day...it was like 930-10 o'clock and i remember it was saturday not friday sorry for that.....

....

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 07:25 PM

Let me know if you want to sell the saz to me:D

pm me what u have to trade or a price..we could possibly work from there..

mk_

12-04-2008, 07:28 PM

How can one be so poor to not come up with 50 friggin dollars. Get a job.

TurdFergueson2

12-04-2008, 07:35 PM

I'm not amp dent expert, but my guess is his sub box hit it or something
OP showed the packaging and it looked solid.

Did you see pix of it before you did the deal? And is this something that DB-R could fix? I mean you still need to ship it off so that's just a little something else to fix. I think in the end it will still be worth it.

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 07:38 PM

I'm not amp dent expert, but my guess is his sub box hit it or something
OP showed the packaging and it looked solid.

Did you see pix of it before you did the deal? And is this something that DB-R could fix? I mean you still need to ship it off so that's just a little something else to fix. I think in the end it will still be worth it.

dont think i would need db-r to fix it neither would i want to go through him

i might just end up ordering a new plate from jacob if possible.. and no i dont need to ship it off.. my dad can easily fix amps as he has already..

(not trying to sound like an *** just restating it so its understood :D)

oldschool4me

12-04-2008, 07:40 PM

How can one be so poor to not come up with 50 friggin dollars. Get a job.

i know someone else that couldnt come up with $50 either lol actuall owed me 100 since june and has paid me 50 so far.:thumbsdo:

now as for the orion quiting, well didnt he recieve it knowing it had an issue? if so then he should know that it could fail at any moment.

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 07:43 PM

i know someone else that couldnt come up with $50 either lol actuall owed me 100 since june and has paid me 50 so far.:thumbsdo:

now as for the orion quiting, well didnt he recieve it knowing it had an issue? if so then he should know that it could fail at any moment.

true to a point.. but im not going that far to it.. i described a whine in the speaker that was being produced by the amp..he received it and said the whine was gone.. I really cant say anything with it blowing is my fault.. cause he had it hooked up and was playing it for "hours" per his statement...

mk_

12-04-2008, 07:56 PM

Dude there is no way that you're at fault. The packaging was superb and shows no sign of abuse upon arrival. The dent had to of been there.

No way you had anything to do with the orion "blowing" (he's probably listening to music right now with it). He said it works, then it works. Anything after is not your problem.

I don't sympathize with poor people. I went to school for many years and had part time jobs the whole way through.

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 07:56 PM

:wow:

i had to think about it to get it flowing right in my brain and thats was about me letiin you know when it was blown.

true to a point.. but im not going that far to it.. i described a whine in the speaker that was being produced by the amp..he received it and said the whine was gone.. I really cant say anything with it blowing is my fault.. cause he had it hooked up and was playing it for "hours" per his statement...

im not saying it was......i was just informing you about it.

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 07:58 PM

Dude there is no way that you're at fault. The packaging was superb and shows no sign of abuse upon arrival. The dent had to of been there.

No way you had anything to do with the orion "blowing" (he's probably listening to music right now with it). He said it works, then it works. Anything after is not your problem.

I don't sympathize with poor people. I went to school for many years and had part time jobs the whole way through.

no the dent was not there i would of seen it when i packaged it up....

and no i am nto listening to music right now with the orion it sits at my house in pa blown.....

im not asking for you sympathy

mk_

12-04-2008, 08:00 PM

Why aren't you going through delivery service insurance? They were the ones that broke it then

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:01 PM

Why aren't you going through delivery service insurance? They were the ones that broke it then

i told him i would but he said it would be all right

mk_

12-04-2008, 08:01 PM

no the dent was not there i would of seen it when i packaged it up....

and no i am nto listening to music right now with the orion it sits at my house in pa blown.....

im not asking for you sympathy

Regardless, your orion is not his problem. His 3000d is your problem though.

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:02 PM

I'm not amp dent expert, but my guess is his sub box hit it or something
OP showed the packaging and it looked solid.

Did you see pix of it before you did the deal? And is this something that DB-R could fix? I mean you still need to ship it off so that's just a little something else to fix. I think in the end it will still be worth it.

how did my sub box hit ti when it sat in my room and it was dented when it came out of my car

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:03 PM

Regardless, your orion is not his problem. His 3000d is your problem though.

i knwo my 3000d is that why im agreed to pay him the 50.

silvercookie

12-04-2008, 08:05 PM

im nominating you for most unluck buyer of the year award.

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:11 PM

im nominating you for most unluck buyer of the year award.

how so??

silvercookie

12-04-2008, 08:13 PM

how so??

talking about brtn

gets a ****ed up orion.
gets a ****ed up sundown

all cause of seller negligence

TurdFergueson2

12-04-2008, 08:14 PM

how did my sub box hit ti when it sat in my room and it was dented when it came out of my car

Dented when it came out your car? that explains it right there. What else in your car could have hit it?

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:15 PM

talking about brtn

gets a ****ed up orion.
gets a ****ed up sundown

all cause of seller negligence

i did not neglict the sundown i took care of it even when it was blown.....

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 08:16 PM

how did my sub box hit ti when it sat in my room and it was dented when it came out of my car

so you knew this

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:16 PM

Dented when it came out your car? that explains it right there. What else in your car could have hit it?

sorry i was typing fast there i ment it was not dented when it came out of my car, cause the pictures of it blown are after it came out...

sorry i was typing fast there i ment it was not dented when it came out of my car, cause the pictures of it blown are after it came out...

this makes no sense.. first u were referring to it happening when it was in your car going to ship it... now your saying u were referring to when it was in there...

silvercookie

12-04-2008, 08:18 PM

oh you just ****ed up pal

TurdFergueson2

12-04-2008, 08:18 PM

sorry i was typing fast there i ment it was not dented when it came out of my car, cause the pictures of it blown are after it came out...

Do you have the pics you sent him? It would help your case a little......... I mean you did offer to "correct" the situation with money you haven't sent, but now you saying the damages he wants money for were not caused by you.

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:19 PM

this makes no sense.. first u were referring to it happening when it was in your car going to ship it... now your saying u were referring to when it was in there...

no it did not happen when it was in the car...the pics that i took when it was blown were after i took it out of the car

Do you have the pics you sent him? It would help your case a little......... I mean you did offer to "correct" the situation with money you haven't sent, but now you saying the damages he wants money for were not caused by you.

he never sent me pics... but as stated in my im the pics did not show the dent there(i took the liberty of finding them myself in his old thread)

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:20 PM

Do you have the pics you sent him? It would help your case a little......... I mean you did offer to "correct" the situation with money you haven't sent, but now you saying the damages he wants money for were not caused by you.

correct...it was spotless when i packaged it up.....
here are pics of the ends you can see there are not bends in them
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x193/feelthebass69/1103081740.jpg
http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x193/feelthebass69/1103081741.jpg

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:21 PM

One important *** word.

yes when i type im thinking ahead of my typeing and miss words.

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 08:22 PM

when did u take it out of your car? like before u shipped it closest to the date u can get man

silvercookie

12-04-2008, 08:23 PM

when did u take it out of your car? like before u shipped it

maybe he shipped it while it was still in his car
that makes more sense then anything said so far
besides he makes no fuvking sense.

silvercookie

12-04-2008, 08:23 PM

yes when i type im thinking ahead of my typeing and miss words.

so you are so smart you type faster then you can think??????????????

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:24 PM

when did u take it out of your car? like before u shipped it

no i took it out when it blew out some smoke... and it went straight to my desk

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:25 PM

so you are so smart you type faster then you can think??????????????

no i think ahead when im typing of what im going to say and my fingers try to check my thoughts and the miss words sometimes...

TurdFergueson2

12-04-2008, 08:25 PM

those pics don't really show anything but the guts. It's really hard to see the RCA inputs and whether they are bent or not.

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 08:25 PM

no i took it out when it blew out some smoke... and it went straight to my desk

thats not what i asked.. i was asking how long from when u shipped it did u take it out..EX:::::A WEEK? 5 DAYS? WHAT

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:26 PM

those pics don't really show anything but the guts. It's really hard to see the RCA inputs and whether they are bent or not.

well i can clearly see the panel that is now bent and its straight in the picture...

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 08:26 PM

as far as i know from now u are and always will be a shady seller and never bought from again.. the fact that it took you until i made a thread to start talking to me.. is complete bs

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:28 PM

thats not what i asked.. i was asking how long from when u shipped it did u take it out..EX:::::A WEEK? 5 DAYS? WHAT

it was out the 1st of november and it shipped on the 13 so almost 2 weeks

silvercookie

12-04-2008, 08:29 PM

then who bent it?
the ****ing boogey man?

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:30 PM

as far as i know from now u are and always will be a shady seller and never bought from again.. the fact that it took you until i made a thread to start talking to me.. is complete bs

yeah i know but im not always on the computer when im sitting around....i would of prolly kept better contact with you through pms and im trying to get this straightened out...i just dont understand how im shaddy im more like poor customer service...

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 08:30 PM

it was out the 1st of november and it shipped on the 13 so almost 2 weeks

u can remember that but not to inform me even 1 word to say that my amp broke when we talked... or to even try to contact me... or even remember the day the amp broke..

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:30 PM

then who bent it?
the ****ing boogey man?

well i know that i didnt not....

silvercookie

12-04-2008, 08:31 PM

well i know that i didnt not....

then how did it get bent

do you know how much force it takes to bend a solid steel plate like that?

a good 300 or so pounds of pressure.

or a drop off something about 3-4 feet in the air.

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:32 PM

u can remember that but not to inform me even 1 word to say that my amp broke when we talked... or to even try to contact me... or even remember the day the amp broke..

no i had to go look back at my thread to remember when i took it out.....and i figured the amp blowing was my problem

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:33 PM

then how did it get bent

do you know how much force it takes to bend a solid steel plate like that?

a good 300 or so pounds of pressure.

or a drop off something about 3-4 feet in the air.

yes i do know that.... and it did not fall or have that kind of pressure on it while it was in my possesion(sp?)

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 08:34 PM

no i had to go look back at my thread to remember when i took it out.....and i figured the amp blowing was my problem

apparently not when u talked to me... you stated "yes" after me asking if you thought that we were even cause the orion broke... sounds like to me you didnt think it was your problem

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 08:34 PM

^^^^^^referring to post above..

17:48] brtnboarder3241: dont take this personall bad
[17:48] brtnboarder3241: but then how is it even(or considered my fault)
[17:48] brtnboarder3241: ?
[17:48] xxxxxx: im not sayin was your fault
[17:48] brtnboarder3241: but from what you were saying we were "even"
[17:49] brtnboarder3241: or at least portraying man
[17:49] xxxxxxx: yeah
[17:49] brtnboarder3241: why are we even
[17:49] brtnboarder3241: i got a less described amp
[17:49] brtnboarder3241: u got a better descrbed amp
[17:49] brtnboarder3241: ?
[17:49] xxxxxxx: did i gaurente that is was goin to be delivered in perfect condition execpt for it bein blown

silvercookie

12-04-2008, 08:35 PM

yes i do know that.... and it did not fall or have that kind of pressure on it while it was in my possesion(sp?)

well it couldnt have happened during shipping
unless the monkeys at ups took it out.
smashed it with a rubber mallet and put it back in

just stop lying it goes no one anywhere.

if you would have been honest brtn would have probably just said w/e
and just asked the money it would cost to get it bent back or fixed.

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:35 PM

apparently not when u talked to me... you stated "yes" after me asking if you thought that we were even cause the orion broke... sounds like to me you didnt think it was your problem

well i was in a bad mood and i was being a *******....

TurdFergueson2

12-04-2008, 08:35 PM

then how did it get bent

do you know how much force it takes to bend a solid steel plate like that?

a good 300 or so pounds of pressure.

or a drop off something about 3-4 feet in the air.

Like off a dresser in your room? I see what you're getting at........

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:36 PM

well it couldnt have happened during shipping
unless the monkeys at ups took it out.
smashed it with a rubber mallet and put it back in

just stop lying it goes no one anywhere.

if you would have been honest brtn would have probably just said w/e
and just asked the money it would cost to get it bent back or fixed.

but im not lying im telling the truth......and so i was being honest with him

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:37 PM

Like off a dresser in your room? I see what you're getting at........

uh no im the only person that goes in there so i know that it did not fall off the desser

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 08:37 PM

uh no im the only person that goes in there so i know that it did not fall off the desser

yet your mom manages your money and pays for your apartment

silvercookie

12-04-2008, 08:38 PM

Like off a dresser in your room? I see what you're getting at........

you serious?
someone actually agrees with me thats not a prick.

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:38 PM

yet your mom manages your money and pays for your apartment

no i payed for the apartment through a loans with my schooling.....she doesnt mange my money she is supporting me while im at school

brtnboarder3241

12-04-2008, 08:39 PM

no i payed for the apartment through a loans with my schooling.....she doesnt mange my money she is supporting me while im at school

then why did u say "she manages" my money

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:40 PM

then why did u say "she manages" my money

idk im confused right now......when i say my money i mean money she gives me for the week

but why when you first told me about the dent you said it would be cool and you may be able to fix it???

silvercookie

12-04-2008, 08:41 PM

dude you are so ****ed right now.

unless jesus comes down again and tells brtn your not lying

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:42 PM

dude you are so ****ed right now.

unless jesus comes down again and tells brtn your not lying

how am i ****ed cause right now i know im not lying.....im not a **** head like that.....

mk_

12-04-2008, 08:43 PM

Is this a joke? Money she gives you for the week?? Are you 12, getting an allowance?

I'm sorry brtnboarder3241 had to put up with this.. I can't take anymore and I've read 4 pages of this thread

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:44 PM

Is this a joke? Money she gives you for the week?? Are you 12, getting an allowance?

I'm sorry brtnboarder3241 had to put up with this.. I can't take anymore and I've read 4 pages of this thread

no its not she loves me enough to help me out while im in school....

silvercookie

12-04-2008, 08:45 PM

no its not she loves me enough to help me out while im in school....

o really?
well she told me you were adopted.

poundindak69

12-04-2008, 08:45 PM

o really?
well she told me you were adopted.

well thats cool then why dont you ask her if im lying...i bet she says im not

mk_

12-04-2008, 08:48 PM

She said you're lying.

silvercookie

12-04-2008, 08:48 PM

well thats cool then why dont you ask her if im lying...i bet she says im not

well this is the last things im going to type and i know for a fact that the rca plate was not bent when it left my posession....how it happened i have no clue but it not happen when i had it....and also im am going to pay brnt back when i get the money...thanks for not believing me and have fun

hazardous0388

12-05-2008, 12:07 AM

i still don't understand how some people can say just because they are in school they cant work. ive had a job since i was 15 years old and still work more then 40 hours a week, while i go to college FULL TIME. some people just seem lazy to me..using school as an excuse not to work.

brtnboarder3241

12-05-2008, 08:18 PM

i still don't understand how some people can say just because they are in school they cant work. ive had a job since i was 15 years old and still work more then 40 hours a week, while i go to college FULL TIME. some people just seem lazy to me..using school as an excuse not to work.

yep

brtnboarder3241

01-04-2009, 11:18 PM

just bumping this up to let everyone know he still has not paid

so buy at your own caution

mk_

01-21-2009, 12:38 AM

cmon

ILLCRACKALUV

05-02-2009, 03:31 PM

I've been told he still hasnt paid

ILLCRACKALUV

05-02-2009, 03:33 PM

well this is the last things im going to type and i know for a fact that the rca plate was not bent when it left my posession....how it happened i have no clue but it not happen when i had it....and also im am going to pay brnt back when i get the money...thanks for not believing me and have fun