The OpenDarwin project is shutting down. "Over the past few years, OpenDarwin has become a mere hosting facility for Mac OS X related projects. The original notions of developing the Mac OS X and Darwin sources has not panned out. Availability of sources, interaction with Apple representatives, difficulty building and tracking sources, and a lack of interest from the community have all contributed to this. Administering a system to host other people's projects is not what the remaining OpenDarwin contributors had signed up for and have been doing this thankless task far longer than they expected. It is time for OpenDarwin to go dark."

----------What would you expect?? To allow a copyrighted operating system to be freely hacked and distributed?? What does this have to do with OpenDarwin or opensource projects anyway??-------------

By itself? It doesn't have a leg to stand on.

But when you put it all together, it tells a story. A story about Apple's history. As I started out with in the post you are replying to, look at apple's hardware. Look at all those years they made nearly non-user upgradable computers.

I understand Apple's goals. And I respect it from a business standpoint. They don't want anything to get in the way of their 30+ percent margins. They have every right to charge that if people will pay it.

But for people to be surprised when you look at apple's history is in itself laughable. This is what apple does. You may pay full price for that computer, but it's never really yours. It's apple's computer.

Contrast that with a standard PC. While still being HP's computer, gateway's computer, so on and so forth, they are much more open. Macinteloshes may very well break this mold. Haven't seen much of those yet.

Now contrast those two with a home built PC. Especially if it runs Linux or another OSS. That's *MY* computer. 110%.