HOH Top 40 Goaltenders - Round 1 Screening Process

Project administrators sent all Top 60 lists for Round 1 of the project to a group of screeners for approval. The purpose of the screening process was to screen out lists that demonstrated insufficient knowledge or care, or that didn't match the intent of the project according to the consensus of participants.

We had three screeners. Two were non-participants - longtime HOH poster overpass who was a co-administer for the HOH defensemen project, and longtime HOH poster EagleBelfour who was a screener for the HOH defenseman project. One was a project participants - reckoning, who was also a screener for the HOH defenseman project.

The screeners did not know the identity of the list submitter. Their verdict was given solely on the contents of the list. Project administrators TheDevilMadeMe and seventieslord knew the identity of the submitters of the lists, and for that reason did not participate in the screening process.

In the end, screeners accepted one list by a vote of 2-1, rejected one list by a vote of 2-1, and accepted all the other lists unanimously.

Screening Criteria

Screeners were given the first 12 submitted lists to look at, so they could compare them to each other. They were then given groups of more lists as they were sent in.

Screeners used the HOH Top 100 Players list created in 2008 as a guide. Any lists that did not contain all goalies from this list were to be flagged and sent back to be reworked. While players from this list did not have to be included in the final list, we wanted to make sure it was for a good reason. This did not become an issue, as all submitted lists contained all goalies from the 2008 list.

Screeners were to reject lists that, in their opinion, showed a lack of care. They could use the 2008 top Players list as a reference, but weren't limited to it. One list was rejected for this reason.

Screeners were to reject lists that, in their opinion, were heavily slanted toward or against certain eras or that failed to consider the full scope of hockey history. No lists were rejected for this reason.

Rejected List

Rank

Player

1

Glenn Hall

2

Dominic Hasek

3

Jacques Plante

4

Terry Sawchuk

5

Patrick Roy

6

Charlie Gardiner

7

Ken Dryden

8

Frank Brimsek

9

Turk Broda

10

Bill Durnan

11

Johnny Bower

12

Bernie Parent

13

Martin Brodeur

14

Vladislav Tretiak

15

Clint Benedict

16

Eddie Belfour

17

Jiri Holechek

18

Tiny Thompson

19

Tony Esposito

20

Georges Vezina

21

Harry Lumley

22

Roy Worters

23

Gump Worseley

24

George Hainsworth

25

Alec Connell

26

Gerry Cheevers

27

Eddie Giacomin

28

Chuck Rayner

29

Roggie Vachon

30

Curtis Joseph

31

Steve Thomas

32

Roger Crozier

33

Lorne Chabot

34

Dave Kerr

35

John Vanbiesbrook

36

Al Rollins

37

Ron Hextall

38

Henrik Lundgvist

39

Mike Liut

40

Billy Smith

41

Percy LeSueur

42

Dunc Munro

43

Vladimir Dzurilla

44

Mikka Kiprusoff

45

Bill Randford

46

Normie Smith

47

Grant Fuhr

48

Mike Richter

49

johnny Mowers

50

Paddy Moran

51

Chris Osgoode

52

John Roach

53

Riley Hern

54

Mike Karakas

55

Andy Moog

56

Gerry McNeil

57

Jim Henry

58

Olaf Kolzig

59

Kelly Hrudey

60

Nikolai Khabibulin

Screeners rejected this list for showing an apparently lack of care. Both screeners who rejected the list pointed to the inclusions of Dunc Munro and Steve Thomas, neither one a goaltender. Steve Thomas could have been intended to be Tim Thomas, but nobody knew what to do with Dunc Munro.

Screeners also pointed to the lack of Hugh Lehman, Hap Holmes, Tom Barrasso, and Tim Thomas - this was the only list of the first 12 to exclude any of them (though later we included a list that excluded only Barrasso). One comment: "There might be a Western league blind spot with the omission of Lehman and Holmes. And with the lack of care previously demonstrated, any of Lehman, Holmes and Barrasso may simply have been overlooked."

One screener was confused by the apparent inconsistency at the top - " I don't think I ever saw Patrick Roy that low on a list, and Charlie Gardiner that high! It's hard to put Martin Brodeur that low at #13. If that person put that much emphasis on regular season, Turk Broda should go lower for sure," but agreed that the big issues were the inclusion of non-goalies and the exclusion of goalies that were on everyone else's lists.

One screener said that he didn't think the list maker took the process seriously. The other screener who voted to reject recommended that if we give the list maker a second chance, we should just mention the lack of early goalies from the Western leagues and say that there were a couple of non-goalies on the list, rather than get into specifics.

We initially followed the advice of the second screener, but ended up changing our minds and giving the list maker the specifics he asked for (as to the non-goalies on his list and the omitted names).