And talking shit on MSNBC without talking shit on FOX NEWS and CNN is a pretty pointless exercise.

I don't watch any of them. They all suck for various reasons. I also don't watch ESPN OTL.

As far as Toure, not sure I get the hate simply because an intelligent well educated black guy happens to have a POV that pisses off people. Admittedly I have not read his stuff, but not sure why/how he differs from the nut jobs on the religious right or the birthers or the tea baggers or the occupy crowd.

Unless your point is he does a poor job of representing his culture?

ETA - or is it that the white mainstream media has latched on to the guy as the spokesperson for the black community. As if Rush Limbaugh spoke for all whites?

I don't need to be patient, they're going to be shit forever. - CDT, discussing my favorite NFL team

Toure existing is cancer and the media makes him the front for black society. Yup.

Since I don't give a rats ass about TV I quit reading after about 3 sentences but, yeah...

Same with every other race in the universe....

Fuck.... I just found out Don 'Draper's' last name.......which is one of the funniest things my wife and I have ever seen or heard on TV because.....she once worked for the largest ad agency in Nevada which at the time was named ... Dunn, Draper, Marz and Shonkwieler

The coolest guy there was David Humm...he of 770 career NFL passing yards and 2 SB rings

mattvan1 wrote:Admittedly I have not read his stuff, but not sure why/how he differs from the nut jobs on the religious right or the birthers or the tea baggers or the occupy crowd.

Unless your point is he does a poor job of representing his culture?

ETA - or is it that the white mainstream media has latched on to the guy as the spokesperson for the black community. As if Rush Limbaugh spoke for all whites?

Here is the thing, Toure is THE BLACK GUY. Mainstream media (every single network everywhere) trots out this uneducated (you obviously didn't read the piece) former entertainment writer that is trolling the world for attention (there are 1,000+ instances of this from him) as THE BLACK GUY.

This is everytime a race incident happens: in the NFL ESPN calls Toure The Cartoon, everytime a CNN wants to talk about how blacks feel about Tyler' Perry's Christianity Toure is called. Everytime MSNBC wants to say black things about the election, Toure is called.

Toure is nowhere near as impactful or meaningful to his community as Rush is (Rush has his followers). In fact, his community (at least the well educated that want to try and fix things) hates him because of his cartoonish trolling bullshit.

Yet the lazy white media makes him "THE BLACK GUY".

It's just lazy and sad and frankly hurts the non-blacks because it provides our culture with the worst context possible.

mattvan1 wrote:Admittedly I have not read his stuff, but not sure why/how he differs from the nut jobs on the religious right or the birthers or the tea baggers or the occupy crowd.

Unless your point is he does a poor job of representing his culture?

ETA - or is it that the white mainstream media has latched on to the guy as the spokesperson for the black community. As if Rush Limbaugh spoke for all whites?

Here is the thing, Toure is THE BLACK GUY. Mainstream media (every single network everywhere) trots out this uneducated (you obviously didn't read the piece) former entertainment writer that is trolling the world for attention (there are 1,000+ instances of this from him) as THE BLACK GUY.

This is everytime a race incident happens: in the NFL ESPN calls Toure The Cartoon, everytime a CNN wants to talk about how blacks feel about Tyler' Perry's Christianity Toure is called. Everytime MSNBC wants to say black things about the election, Toure is called.

Toure is nowhere near as impactful or meaningful to his community as Rush is (Rush has his followers). In fact, his community (at least the well educated that want to try and fix things) hates him because of his cartoonish trolling bullshit.

Yet the lazy white media makes him "THE BLACK GUY".

It's just lazy and sad and frankly hurts the non-blacks because it provides our culture with the worst context possible.

I'll ask my friends, of all colors, if they have ever heard of the guy. I can bet the answer is "no" across the board. All I know about him is from Wiki (cringe - I know) but according to that site he attended Milton Academy, Emory and joined Columbia University's graduate creative writing program for a year.

He may be an elitist entitled Masshole, but he's not uneducated. It might depend on the age demo more than anything else - younger people get all angst ridden, people 40+ have never heard of him.

Results of my very unscientific poll available soon.

I don't need to be patient, they're going to be shit forever. - CDT, discussing my favorite NFL team