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<blockquote><b>Quoting Back to Noob Status:</b>" Since when does BFing, changing diapers or tucking a child in to bed automatically make one a good parent? ... [snip!] ... clean. But by your logic, I guess someone who FFs or doesn't read their kids a bedtime story makes them a bad parent, eh? :?"</blockquote>

<blockquote><b>Quoting Back to Noob Status:</b>" Since when does BFing, changing diapers or tucking a child in to bed automatically make one a good parent? ... [snip!] ... clean. But by your logic, I guess someone who FFs or doesn't read their kids a bedtime story makes them a bad parent, eh? :?"</blockquote>

*raises hand* I'm a bad parent then. I prefer stories during the day. Bedtime stories never worked out for us.

Quoting Back to Noob Status:" Since when does BFing, changing diapers or tucking a child in to bed automatically make one a good parent? ... [snip!] ... clean. But by your logic, I guess someone who FFs or doesn't read their kids a bedtime story makes them a bad parent, eh? :?"

Lol. Calm yourself. They were just examples for the sake of conversation. Of course I know there is more to parenting. But obviously they are not doing anything to HURT children if they impose their values on their kids. They are meeting the physical needs and giving them love and support. So you think their views are hateful and gross? It's a difference in opinions and thoughts from your family. It's stupid, dont get me wrong, but it's only a viewpoint and that doesnt make a parent bad either.

I'm trying to say that just because someone thinks the way they do, doesn't mean they'll instill those values and teach their kids to be hateful. There are many traits and beliefs we all have, such as religion, that we dont force our kids into. I think it's hateful to assume someone is a bad parent because of a few shitty tattoos. oh well. That's how you're going to think of people and that's all there is to it. so.... :)

Quoting Brink:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Back to Noob Status:</b>" Since when does BFing, changing diapers ... [snip!] ... story makes them a bad parent, eh? :?"</blockquote> :? Uh no she ff and is a great parent so that logic doesn't work"

Quoting [wtf] i'm heather.:" <blockquote><b>Quoting Back to Noob Status:</b>" Since when does BFing, changing diapers ... [snip!] ... *raises hand* I'm a bad parent then. I prefer stories during the day. Bedtime stories never worked out for us."

Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" Lol. Calm yourself. They were just examples for the sake of conversation. Of course I know there is ... [snip!] ... because of a few shitty tattoos. oh well. That's how you're going to think of people and that's all there is to it. so.... :)"

"But obviously they are not doing anything to HURT children if they impose their values on their kids."

I disagree. It does a child a great disservice to raise them to be Nazis and I can't believe someone is arguing against that point.

Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" That's the whole point. Yes, they may be a hateful person THEMSELVES, but that bares NO WEIGHT on whether ... [snip!] ... can breastfeed, change a diaper, love on, or tuck their children in at night and read them a story, meeting their basic needs."

I'd still consider them bad parents. Someone putting their kids in an environment of hate like that isn't a good parent, even if they breastfeed and read their child books at night.

Quoting Back to Noob Status:" "But obviously they are not doing anything to HURT children if they impose their values on their kids." ... [snip!] ... It does a child a great disservice to raise them to be Nazis and I can't believe someone is arguing against that point."

Differences of opinions and lifestyles. I dont agree with people raising their kids to be bleeding heart liberals (love you Charyse!) but I certainly cant say that it's "hurting" the kid even if I disagree with it.

And for the record, I'm not saying I'm pro-nazi or anything. It's disgusting.... but while it may be fucked up, I'm sure it's not CPS worthy. ;)

Quoting Man. Bear. Pig.:" Differences of opinions and lifestyles. I dont agree with people raising their kids to be bleeding ... [snip!] ... I'm not saying I'm pro-nazi or anything. It's disgusting.... but while it may be fucked up, I'm sure it's not CPS worthy. ;)"

Wow...you are comparing liberals to Nazis? Okay then...

And I never said it was CPS worthy either, but it definitely is shitty parenting in my book.