I gave our past a revisit last night (yes, I was really bored) ...... Seems there aren't to many of the old faces frequenting the CMB OT these days ...... Guess making Gooey a MOD did have its desired effect afterall.

I think you took my post a little to literally my Man, not for a second am I suggesting you go out and sign a bunch of old timers at the same time, but the odd one or two certainly wouldn't be a bad thing if the team wants to remain relative or else end up like the 0-16 Lions a few years back....... If you have zero leadership among the ranks, who exactly do these "young" studs learn the ropes from ?????

To propose that a rebuilding period means only having cheap and young players on your squad, guarantees nothing but a losing culture to develop, which will inevitably lead to a long and dreary place at the bottom of the table, which personally, I don't wish to see the older I become.

This "Youth movement" sounds all good and well in theory, but on the field of play is an entirely different beast altogether, you honestly think the fans of this team are going to rally around and stick fat for another 5 years of sub 500 seasons, with prospect of moving and no stadium deal still a pipe dream ?????
History shows us that won't be the case, now if they'd won something of significance when they should of, that idea may have indeed had some merit, but not after what we've had to endure the last 5 seasons under Norf and AJ, the huge majority of this fan base wants some type of success immediately, even if that's only something along the lines of an AFC Championship, which for memory, you used to think meant a "winning, successful season", did it not ???

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Well, you said you have to spend money to get quality players, and we aren't in the big money free agency camp right now.

Sure, we can keep a guy like Brown, even though he's older, because he still has value as a pass blocker and he's cheap. We aren't in the market for the Woodson, Freeney, or Reed type player. Veteran leadership doesn't have to come from top dollar players, you know.

Sure, we might not be very good for a year or two, but once we've unloaded all of AJ's crap cap nightmare, we'l be in a good position to improve and contend again. We have to do the tough purge first though. There really isn't a pain free method to rebuilding an NFL franchise.

Well, you said you have to spend money to get quality players, and we aren't in the big money free agency camp right now.

Sure, we can keep a guy like Brown, even though he's older, because he still has value as a pass blocker and he's cheap. We aren't in the market for the Woodson, Freeney, or Reed type player. Veteran leadership doesn't have to come from top dollar players, you know.

Sure, we might not be very good for a year or two, but once we've unloaded all of AJ's crap cap nightmare, we'l be in a good position to improve and contend again. We have to do the tough purge first though. There really isn't a pain free method to rebuilding an NFL franchise.

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On that we can agree ....... But seriously, was the Spikes hiring a good one now in hindsight ???? ...he was relatively cheap, had experience and leadership qualitys, but did he help our cause in his two years or just allow us to tread water ????

On that we can agree ....... But seriously, was the Spikes hiring a good one now in hindsight ???? ...he was relatively cheap, had experience and leadership qualitys, but did he help our cause in his two years or just allow us to tread water ????

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Spikes wasn't a bunch of money originally, but he's too old and expensive now. When we got him, we thought we were still contending for the division and the playoffs. We're not in that position right now.

Other than Peyton suddenly going down, I don't see how this Chargers team could possibly win the division. Even the Chiefs may improve enough to leave as battling with the Raiders for cellar dweller honors.

Spikes wasn't a bunch of money originally, but he's too old and expensive now. When we got him, we thought we were still contending for the division and the playoffs. We're not in that position right now.

Other than Peyton suddenly going down, I don't see how this Chargers team could possibly win the division. Even the Chiefs may improve enough to leave as battling with the Raiders for cellar dweller honors.

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Oh there's no way known we compete for quite awhile if your being honest about it, Ill be quite astounded if we have a better W/L record than the Raiders this upcoming season.

By the way, WHO exactly thought we were contending 2 seasons ago ???? ...................what asylum they in ???

Spikes wasn't a bunch of money originally, but he's too old and expensive now. When we got him, we thought we were still contending for the division and the playoffs. We're not in that position right now.

Other than Peyton suddenly going down, I don't see how this Chargers team could possibly win the division. Even the Chiefs may improve enough to leave as battling with the Raiders for cellar dweller honors.

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The Chiefs have been loading up with talent because of their constant high drafting positions. They remind me a lot of 49ers which had the talent, but never the structure nor the discipline. Although I am not quite sure that Andy Reed brings that to their Organization, I believe that the Chiefs are far more talented and better positioned than the Chargers to even challenge the Broncos for the top position, specially after the acquisition of Alex Smith.

At this point, I see the Divi like this: Broncos > Chiefs > Chargers > Raiders.

Oh there's no way known we compete for quite awhile if your being honest about it, Ill be quite astounded if we have a better W/L record than the Raiders this upcoming season.

By the way, WHO exactly thought we were contending 2 seasons ago ???? ...................what asylum they in ???

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The BS which they were sold on, i.e, "just get to the POs and then anything may be possible" The fallacy of us getting into the POs during the years when we were loaded up with AJ's crap, was because of a much crappier Divi. Some fans just liked to feast on that sheet. Hindsight is always 20-20, but some of us knew that our window of prowess was closed and shut after the 2007 season. The rest was just fodder!

The Chiefs have been loading up with talent because of their constant high drafting positions. They remind me a lot of 49ers which had the talent, but never the structure nor the discipline. Although I am not quite sure that Andy Reed brings that to their Organization, I believe that the Chiefs are far more talented and better positioned than the Chargers to even challenge the Broncos for the top position, specially after the acquisition of Alex Smith.

At this point, I see the Divi like this: Broncos > Chiefs > Chargers > Raiders.

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Theres no doubt that the Chiefs have surpassed us (on paper anyway) in the talent on the field stakes, although I'm of the same belief in regards to Reid, game seems to have passed him by in my opinion.

The BS which they were sold on, i.e, "just get to the POs and then anything may be possible" The fallacy of us getting into the POs during the years when we were loaded up with AJ's crap, was because of a much crappier Divi. Some fans just liked to feast on that sheet. Hindsight is always 20-20, but some of us knew that our window of prowess was closed and shut after the 2007 season. The rest was just fodder!

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Anyone with a half a brain who bought into that philosophy deserves all the angst they are now confronted with ...........

Theres no doubt that the Chiefs have surpassed us (on paper anyway) in the talent on the field stakes, although I'm of the same belief in regards to Reid, game seems to have passed him by in my opinion.

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That could very well be the case, because The Eagles were not an untalented bunch either.