God, if you believe it is according to the Brahma Kumaris, is now appearing on Youtube for the world to see.

I have no idea if this is "official" or not but it appears under the name of BapDada rather than God the Father. But this is it folks. Save yourself 6 months of getting up at 4 am and going to morning class, this is what you get once you go to Madhuban, along with 10,000 other folk. Well, this is obviously a far better view of what you get form the back of the hall but perhaps there is more of an environment sitting out there.

Someone also seems to be posting complete copies of the channelled messages on blogspot.com and facebook.com, here and here. They also have a new 24 hours Peace of Mind TV channel, a paid service only available by the Reliance DTH for Rs. 3100 for one year via Divine Boxes and paid by Divine Cards, and Madhuban Live channel for BKs only.

For some unknown reason, daily Murlis and meetings with BapDada (god of BKs) are still not available on Peace of Mind TV.

I wonder how much we were instrumental is breaking the secrecy of the BKWSU leadership over the Murli channelled messages and allowing these individuals to come out into the open? And was "non-BK" a title they used or, again, did we popularise it here?

Peace of Mind TV wrote:BK PACK is a subscription pack available only with Reliance BIG TV ("India's best digital TV service"). In the BK PACK, one gets a Set-top-Box + Dish Antenna + Installation + One year subscription + All popular paid and Free channels + one preferred Regional channel + Peace of mind TV.

This channel is available for people of all castes, creed and religions. Any person whether a BK (Associated with Brahmakumaris) or a Non BK (Not Associated with Brahmakumaris) can subscribe to this pack.

Interestingly, some BKs are now rather confidently dating the Murlis as per "year 4975", rather 2011. Only 25 years to go? Can we have that guaranteed in writing?

Oh, yes, and rather contradictorily, the news is that "transformation is very near ... and it will happen very quickly ... and BKs should make plans to reveal the Father" again (plans as long as it does not include officially broadcasting on TV or the internet it seems).

Around 30 minutes, the audience of BKs clap when God says it won't take time for him or "drama" to "press the button" for Destruction. Our friend Karuna Shetty speaks up and tells his God he should press the button.

It might be good for someone to download these videos in case they are pulled off.

In Christianity and Islam Jesus and Muhammad are said to have performed miracles for the purpose of demonstrating their divine credentials. Is there anything correspondence to this in BK? I mean why would anyone believe this is God speaking rather than Dadi Gulzar speaking (or whispering)?

A button has been pressed by Ukraine separatists on a civilian airplane Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, killing all 283 passengers and 15 crew on board.

A United Nations school converted to house families displaced by weeks of shelling in Gaza was hit by an apparent Israeli airstrike Thursday, killing at least 15 people. We all know how it looks like.

The desire to "press buttons " seems to be in fashion today to wipe out innocent people and if the BK god and his adherents openly desire to "press the button" should they not be arrested for war crimes "to encourage scientists to "press the button"?

They are rich beyond all comparisons. Now two channels are running along with programmes on several other channels. Great. Its all misuse of donations. How much would it cost? [quote="Ex-I"]Can we have that guaranteed in writing?[/url]No, it's now transformation theory for external world. In one of the post on BKforum.net, I read a new explanation. It said that, "Theory of destruction is given so that people get encouraged & motivated to do purusharth or efforts to rise higher. And, as such, no Destruction is coming or will happen". He wanted to say that BKWSU just misguide people to guide them.

Lastly, I just dislike this whispering by such an old lady. Why does she do all this funny acts in her so called drama. After her, we would really like to see a face that has at least a pleasant smile & pleasant voice. This granny is just making foolish noises. And when she smile, it is better to turn your face or you will get scared.

And one more thing, why she put Kohl in her eyes? Kajrare kare kare naina, what's the reason?

It is a very serious talk you have raised. It cannot be metaphor & can be right also. Are BKs behind these attacks? It may not be true. But if destruction on such small scale is so horrible, then what Dadis plan would be much awful. And they would do it without any regrets.

Why do they focus more on getting away of Dehadhyass & live in virtual reality to their followers is because they want their followers to remain detached to these incidents & even if their near & dear are killed by that button effect, they must not feel any remorse. Simply they are turning human into stone or even some into ashes.

Most important thing that she pointed is the "Coming soon: Pressing the button" phenomena. Does it means that they are now more close to nuke scientists?

Save Innocents wrote:And one more thing, why she put Kohl in her eyes? Kajrare kare kare naina, what's the reason?

Well, accepting for one moment that it is not "she" but that the body is being possessed by the deceased Lekhraj Kirpalani and his spirit guide (called BapDada together) ... it was part of the ritual of the early Om Mandli days. Lekhraj Kirpalani used to put kohl around his eyes which led to rumours it was "magical" - that it had been given by this saddhu I mentioned earlier - and caused the visions and spirit possession they experienced.

I read over the article about Dadi Gulzar that Warrior posted. It said she had her first trance or possession experience when she was a child and had no other education except that within the cult.

I can certain accept she had the visions, although they do not equate to mean god gave them. Of course, in the first 20 years, they believe Lekhraj Kirpalani was God and so they must thought he was giving them ...

You're a Hindi speaker aren't you, Save Innocents? How does she/he/it/they sound to you as they speak?

Many "spirit channellers" or mediums put on a similar act when they are "possessed" by their spirit. You would have thought if it really was the God of all gods, every one in the audience would be deeply effected. I would say most are not. People carry on as usual.