The scientists who appeared to have found in September that certain subatomic particles can travel faster than light have ruled out one potential source of error in their measurements after completing a second, fine-tuned version of their experiment.

Their results, posted on the ArXiv preprint server on Friday morning and submitted for peer review in the Journal of High Energy Physics, confirmed earlier measurements that neutrinos, sent through the ground from Cern near Geneva to the Gran Sasso lab in Italy 450 miles (720km) away seemed to travel faster than light.

The finding that neutrinos might break one of the most fundamental laws of physics sent scientists into a frenzy when it was first reported in September. Not only because it appeared to go against Albert Einstein's theory of special relativity but, if correct, the finding opened up the troubling possibility of being able to send information back in time, blurring the line between past and present and wreaking havoc with the fundamental principle of cause and effect.

From what I get from the published stuff is that they need to account for the possiblity of some weird gravitational time distortion that may have affected the results, something Einstein accounted for(ie. time is slower in orbit as gravitaitonal forces are weaker).

That made me think..is it possible that there are places in the planet that time moves slower, and yet others that it moves faster, and all this experiment has done is found one of those places?

I mean, based on the response from MINOS(Fermilab), that's what they could be suggesting...

Technically, given the right planetary surface environment, elevation is enough to distort time, uh...right?

It's just weird to me that a scientist much suggest so, without proof of such. Or maybe there is proof, and I'm clueless(very likely).

But maybe it was possibly reference gravitional effects form teh moon? I mean, the moon affects tides...

Anywya, jsut show me where time travels the fastest. That's what I want to see.

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On a very small scale yeah since at higher altitudes your rotational velocity (due to the rotation of the Earth) will be faster. And the faster you travel time slows down (so from the reference frame of someone traveling slower the person traveling faster will age slower). Obviously time dialation is more observable when an object is traveling a significant percentage of the speed of light.

Time travel is a perceptional illusion and Einstein already eluded to that: you may be able to witness it, but are never able to interact with it.
One of Einstein's detractors put it best when noting the very important fact of an observer's point of view:
"If a bus travels at the the speed of light, but an occupant runs from the back to the the front of a bus, he, in theory, would appear to move faster than light".
Now, we all know that's not correct, but to the observer, this would seem to be the case.

if time travel were possible then wouldn't people from the future have already visited us? or maybe they already have but are secretive about it! or maybe every time we catch on the visitors from the future scrub time somehow so we never find out. or maybe they are trying to prevent the coming robot apocalypse. omg run!!!111

if time travel were possible then wouldn't people from the future have already visited us? or maybe they already have but are secretive about it! or maybe every time we catch on the visitors from the future scrub time somehow so we never find out. or maybe they are trying to prevent the coming robot apocalypse. omg run!!!111

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Exactly.
It's why statements like "observation without interference" are simply not possible. The mere fact you are there, already changes that scene.
Et cetera

"faster than light"
It was literally billionths of a second faster.
As to what that means, who knows?
Maybe just a miniscule localised fluctuation in 'c'; something the neutrinos interacted with along their path?
Microscopic wormholes that allowed the neutrinos to jump unimaginably small distances occasionally, making it appear that they were travelling faster than light?
Quantum fluctuations of some kind could account for it... maybe.

I don't see how you can translate this into travelling faster than light...
As far as I know, although tachyons are theoretically possible, there is no evidence that they exist, even with these neutrino experiments. Some kind of state shift from neutrino-to-tachyon-to-neutrino? Who knows.
Maybe such things are possible on the small scale, just as apparent teleportation seems to be possible with single particles, but scaling it up to a macro scale that is usable by us would be astronomically more difficult if not impossible.

Maybe such things are possible on the small scale, just as apparent teleportation seems to be possible with single particles, but scaling it up to a macro scale that is usable by us would be astronomically more difficult if not impossible.

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Enter Half-Life 2, and destruction before teleportation. Create a field that slows time, and possibly both the destruction and "re-assembly" of matter is possible.

Manipulation of time doesn't need to be for time travel, in the sense that it's commonly though of. It could have many, many uses.

Time dilation does not play a role. Time dilation only plays a role if YOU are the one travelling close to the speed of light, not if you are measuring from outside.

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That's not entirely true. When making measurements that are as precise as these ones are time dilation from one part of the earth to another can throw off the measurements enough to imply things that may not be true. The effect is simply greater when you increase gravity/speed. In this case it's time dilation caused by variation in the earths gravity.

That being said the scientists in charge of the experiments have apparently already accounted for that.

Neutrinos pumped down from CERN, near Geneva, should have lost most of their energy if they had traveled at even a tiny fraction faster than light. But in fact, the ICARUS scientists say, the neutrino beam as tested in their equipment registered an energy spectrum fully corresponding with what it should be for particles traveling at the speed of light and no more.