I think the Zionist argument is a difficult one in the case of Iraq. What we do for Israel is supply them with American weapons so they can attack their neighbors. The arrangement is good for us, and good for them.
We also must remember it was the US which got Israel out of the Sinai after the 1968 War. Israel had also crossed the Red Sea and occupied a small portion of Egypt as well, and we got them out of there. So, the US is a restraining force on Israel. Without the US, Israel probably would have conquered Syria and Jordan, crushed the Palestinians, smashed the PLO, Hamas, and Hezbollah; and would have a larger mess on our hands than we have today.

You still refuse to see the Zionist forest for the Muslim trees. 4.5 million displaced Muslims. Where exactly do you think they're GOING?

The Zionists have worked it out so very perfectly, haven't they? We allow them to steal our wealth, our weaponry and the blood of our white men so that A) We kill THEIR worst enemies B) We steadily empty out the Middle East so that they can have what they want: ALL OF IT and C) We allow the displaced to refugee to OUR countries to destroy OUR culture - with the help of Zionist immigration policy. What a perfect, perfect set-up.

But wait, it gets even better. Since they own the means of propaganda - media, news, television, film, education, etc. - not ONLY will most white people not protest the destruction of our own countries in the service of Zionism, they will support it. It has NOTHING to do with tears for Muslims. It has everything to do with Zionists making GOOD USE of our lack of tears.

Yes Sue, you are right and that's a very good post of yours but somehow I get the feeling that you don't get where I'm coming from - I can see the Zionist forest and I can also see another equally big if not bigger muslim forest the problem is, as you say, that the Jews have the power and they have the mass media at their disposal, I am well aware of this fact - but I just feel very strongly that as there are now more than 2 billion muslims on the planet many of them their hearts + minds filled with hatred for all of us (I don't believe many of them are even aware of the difference between the Jews and us) so I have to really look beyond the jews, who I believe are on their way out as a major world influence, they've almost created enough rope to hang themselves with so I reckon they're likely gonna self-destruct in the not too distant future (at least I'm hoping so) then hopefully things will start falling into place for us.

But those muslims are gonna be our enemies forever especially as they perceive us (probably rightly in many cases) as being Zionist enablers - and so, yes, as you said, all those 'refugees' are gonna be flooding into Europe and maybe also the States now we have Barack bin Laden as C in C so that's really got to be a very dangerous situation for us in the future that we need to be mentally + physically preparing for now.
Just look at their numbers and weep!

I think the Zionist argument is a difficult one in the case of Iraq. What we do for Israel is supply them with American weapons so they can attack their neighbors. The arrangement is good for us, and good for them.
We also must remember it was the US which got Israel out of the Sinai after the 1968 War. Israel had also crossed the Red Sea and occupied a small portion of Egypt as well, and we got them out of there. So, the US is a restraining force on Israel. Without the US, Israel probably would have conquered Syria and Jordan, crushed the Palestinians, smashed the PLO, Hamas, and Hezbollah; and would have a larger mess on our hands than we have today.

"Let me now warn you in the most solemn manner.
Observe good faith and justice toward all nations.
Cultivate peace and harmony with all.
The Nation which indulges toward another an habitual Hatred or an habitual fondness is in some degree, a slave.
It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest."
-President George Washington, Farewell Address, 1796

"There shall be no standing army but in time of actual war." ––Thomas Jefferson: Draft Virginia Constitution, 1776. Papers 1:363

I think the Zionist argument is a difficult one in the case of Iraq. What we do for Israel is supply them with American weapons so they can attack their neighbors. The arrangement is good for us, and good for them.
We also must remember it was the US which got Israel out of the Sinai after the 1968 War. Israel had also crossed the Red Sea and occupied a small portion of Egypt as well, and we got them out of there. So, the US is a restraining force on Israel. Without the US, Israel probably would have conquered Syria and Jordan, crushed the Palestinians, smashed the PLO, Hamas, and Hezbollah; and would have a larger mess on our hands than we have today.

I have no doubt that Israel would already have done everything you suggest were it not for the global outcry against them which would have followed. Seems they were testing the waters with this latest attack on Gaza, believing in their own delusion that no one else really cared and that the world had been so indoctrinated with guilt and Holocaust BS that we'd allow them to do whatever they want. They were wrong.

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What we do for Israel is supply them with American weapons so they can attack their neighbors. The arrangement is good for us, and good for them.

If we TRULY wanted to do what was "good for us", we'd supply their neighbors with American weapons so they can attack Israel. But I would not support even that. We should be supplying no one with anything, instead using our money to secure our OWN countries. While we were busy killing a million Iraqis, our economy collapsed and non-whites continued to pour across our borders. Insanity.

'Before Israel, America had no enemies in the Middle East'
-Father John Sheehan, S.J.

Lebanon is 1/3 Christian
Eygpt has 15 Million Christians living with Muslims
Iran has 250,000 Christians that live with 40,000 Persian Jews, in Peace, today.
Millions of Christians live in Jordan, Syria, Iran, Iraq and North Africa.

This whole 'Muslims are our enemy' is simply Neo CON babble to get us to fight their wars. Divide & Conquer.
By War of Deception, thou Shall do war.

I think the Zionist argument is a difficult one in the case of Iraq. What we do for Israel is supply them with American weapons so they can attack their neighbors. The arrangement is good for us, and good for them.
We also must remember it was the US which got Israel out of the Sinai after the 1968 War. Israel had also crossed the Red Sea and occupied a small portion of Egypt as well, and we got them out of there. So, the US is a restraining force on Israel. Without the US, Israel probably would have conquered Syria and Jordan, crushed the Palestinians, smashed the PLO, Hamas, and Hezbollah; and would have a larger mess on our hands than we have today.

Disagree. We are in Iraq to fight Israel's enemy, that of course we have destroyed, and we are still there and waiting for the next victim, all while the jews have bankrupted us.

'Before Israel, America had no enemies in the Middle East'
-Father John Sheehan, S.J.

Lebanon is 1/3 Christian
Eygpt has 15 Million Christians living with Muslims
Iran has 250,000 Christians that live with 40,000 Persian Jews, in Peace, today.
Millions of Christians live in Jordan, Syria, Iran, Iraq and North Africa.

This whole 'Muslims are our enemy' is simply Neo CON babble to get us to fight their wars. Divide & Conquer.
By War of Deception, thou Shall do war.

"Arab Palestinian Christians and Arab Palestinian Muslims have lived side by side for past 1400 years, and for anybody to say that the Arab Palestinian Christians have been persecuted recently by Muslims is absolutely another big lie, like the big lie that spoke of Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq,"