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Maybe the manga will show Sauske defeating Oro and he goes back to Konoha. He joins his team again and attack Akatsuki. Later on after the Akatsuki is gone, Sauske will reveal that he never defeated Oro. He is Oro in Sauske's body and destroys Konoha...

Ridiculous, the double cross is a long time coming seriously if you didn’t see this then your blind, Sasuke is after one thing, power, he had no intention of handing over his body to Orochimaru for it.

I’m with most of you on this one, 1000 ninja's without killing them, all knocked out, plus chakra blade . . ., OK I think the fans get the point that Sasuke is "the shit" but seriously this is overdoing it. Then again, I guess when I look at it again and compare it to "the new" Naruto and his jutsu, this seems just about correct, in terms of being better then Naruto. All this means to me is, our boy Naruto is going to get allot more stronger.

Can't wait to see the conclusion, most likely there wont be a fight, (but who knows) what’s Kabuto planning to do? Will he also betray Orochimaru along with Sasuke? Remember... he almost killed Sasuke at that point in the hospital. Maybe he will go to sleep with cotton in his ears so he can't hear Orochimaru's crying calls...

Lol @ earlier posts of Sasuke obtaining MS from Killing Orochimaru, that gave me a good laugh. I also want answers about the conditions of Orochimaru's arms, if they are connected to the Shiki Fuujin.

Maybe the manga will show Sauske defeating Oro and he goes back to Konoha. He joins his team again and attack Akatsuki. Later on after the Akatsuki is gone, Sauske will reveal that he never defeated Oro. He is Oro in Sauske's body and destroys Konoha...

Spoiler for I think...:

That would be very unexpected that Sasuke kills Orochimaru and so far not so many unexpected things happened.

I expect that Oro will stop Sasuke, and probably we will learn something new about Sasukes cursed seal.

Kishi has lost his touch I guess first Naruto defeats Kakuzu and Now Sauckay defeats 1k Ninjas without getting his pants dirty both are uber stupid moments . Well according to speculation Kakuzu was stupider than Hidan so on the same speculative note were those 1k Ninjas Academy drop-outs let alone Genins

Well Sasukes speed has increased 10 fold right, if Yondaime took out hundreds of Ninja with Hiraishin perhaps this is a new Jutsu of Sasukes. It would be quite fitting. Here is a shitty dialogue I prepared to explain what I mean.

Sasuke: Naruto uses that jutsu, the Rasengan..
Orochimaru: Ah yes, one of the Fourth Hokages famous techniques.
Sasuke: If his jutsus are truly that strong to his legend.. I want to know a jutsu of his aswel.

I don't know how he would of aquired Hiraishin, or if it even is Hiraishin. Just an up in the air theory.

Well Sasukes speed has increased 10 fold right, if Yondaime took out hundreds of Ninja with Hiraishin perhaps this is a new Jutsu of Sasukes. It would be quite fitting. Here is a shitty dialogue I prepared to explain what I mean.

Sasuke: Naruto uses that jutsu, the Rasengan..
Orochimaru: Ah yes, one of the Fourth Hokages famous techniques.
Sasuke: If his jutsus are truly that strong to his legend.. I want to know a jutsu of his aswel.

I don't know how he would of aquired Hiraishin, or if it even is Hiraishin. Just an up in the air theory.

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I doubt that....and rather....that's impossible because when Yondaime was known as the Yellow Flash....Orochimaru was already banned out of the Fire Country...teaming up with Sasori in the group Akatsuki.

There are definetly chances that he has heard about it but i doubt that he actually saw the jutsu.

And if Sasuke has Hiraishin then in my opinion he definetly can kill Itachi right away. And he'd be too overpowered in the whole series of Naruto.

I doubt that....and rather....that's impossible because when Yondaime was known as the Yellow Flash....Orochimaru was already banned out of the Fire Country...teaming up with Sasori in the group Akatsuki.

There are definetly chances that he has heard about it but i doubt that he actually saw the jutsu.

And if Sasuke has Hiraishin then in my opinion he definetly can kill Itachi right away. And he'd be too overpowered in the whole series of Naruto.

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Yeah you're most probably right. It just be a somewhat close to an instant speed though. Guess Yondaime will always have that little bit extra speed. Oh and I had no clue Oro had been classed as Missing Nin then. But we do know he was learning alot of jutsus under the time he served as a Jounin. So maybe he did see Hiraishin when Yondaime was Jiraiyas pupil. I'd like a flashback arc of all that =]

I would not compare those 1000 noname ninja to the 50 ninja defeated by Yondaime. Orochimaru is hiding because of the akatsuki and ANBU after him, he will never engage into some big battle against ninja that actually matter, in which case some great ninja would be involved. In this case there were probably ninja whose life or death does not matter, they are just material for Kabuto's disgusting medical stuff. When Orochimaru got his body it was a battle royale between hundreds of ninja, yet the winner was not even wounded, and we know that he was rather weak compared to the main characters. Then there was the big ninja war: those 50 ninja were the elite of the battlefield because they destroyed the konoha forces before Yondaime arrived. So i think those 50 ninja were overall stronger than these 1000 ninja.

Oro surrounded himself with traitors, it's highly probable that someone will turn against him, either Sasuke or Kabuto, or even both. It's still a unkown how why is Kabuto following Oro so faithfully, of course one reason was to not be killed by Oro, however when Oro lost his hands and was in a bad shape Kabuto did not turn against him. Also when Tsunade tried to kill Oro he saved Oro's life. But in the beginning Orochimaru was talking to Kabuto about his possible treason, maybe because of Sasori's jutsu which was already released by Oro, but maybe for other reasons. It would be interesting if Kabuto would have his own reasons and goals, but Kishimoto may decide to simply remove him from the story as he did with other characters known form the 1st part already.

Oro is not going to lose to Sasuke. Sure Sasuke is "this shit" that's pretty clear but Oro didn't look too worried when he saw what Sasuke could do. Plus Oro should be able to use the cursed seal as a leash if Sasuke gets too crazy.

OK I think Kishi went overboard with Sasuke, but people thinking he is on the 4th's level is kind of silly. I mean Sasori took out a whole country by himself no one batted an eyelash, much less compared him to the 4th. How do you overlook Sasori but go "ZOMG Sasuke >> 4th"!!!! If that was true then I'll say "ZOMG Sasori>>>>all".

PS where did all those ninjas come from? Why were they there? Another random fight to show Sasuke is strong? Kishi really doesn't know how to tell a story that makes sense or half way believable does he?

Well according to speculation Kakuzu was stupider than Hidan so on the same speculative note were those 1k Ninjas Academy drop-outs let alone Genins

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Kakuzu being stupid is not a speculation, just a "completely incorrect" information. On a different note, finding someone more stupid than Hidan is more like finding a meteor that will definitely hit earth.

Also, Sasuke taking out 1000 chuunins wouldn't be too difficult for him, especially if there is no time limit for that. Considering that Naruto can do the same with one technique, be it summoning destroyer frog or using rasengan shuriken. The most difficult part was taking them out without killing them, though.

Kakuzu being stupid is not a speculation, just a "completely incorrect" information. On a different note, finding someone more stupid than Hidan is more like finding a meteor that will definitely hit earth.

Also, Sasuke taking out 1000 chuunins wouldn't be too difficult for him, especially if there is no time limit for that. Considering that Naruto can do the same with one technique, be it summoning destroyer frog or using rasengan shuriken. The most difficult part was taking them out without killing them, though.

Actually I am not suprised or shocked both chracters are going to power up its called progression . I was using my earlier post as an abstract example for Naruto Haters . When Naruto defeated Kakuzu people were too happy to knit pick giving the reason as bad writing So I was highlighting the irony here

Lets give Orochimaru and Sasuke some credit here. Look at what Sasuke wants to achieve; and look at the way he treated Naruto when they met post timeskip. While these 1k ninjas certainly aren't Sannin, Kakashis or the like; I can guarantee that they are scattered between genin to jounin strength. As hunter said, one of the 4th's greatest achievements was to beat 50 ninjas in an instant; and even he required a little bit of help from sub-ordinates. Sasuke on the other hand beated 1000 without using big attacks and without having any assistance... while not even getting touched and most likely in a non surprise attack. This deserves major credit.

Spoiler:

I'm not trying to take away due credit from Sasuke. That display was obviously made to show that he his now an elite ninja seemingly even Kage-lvl. I was just stating that you can't use that to assume that he would've effortlessly defeated Team 7. How a character does against nameless, disposable characters isn't necessarily a reflection of how they would do against opponents who actually matter to the story. It's relative. For example, Kakashi can beat hordes of nameless Sound and Sand jounin/chuunin all day without breaking a sweat. But I don't think he could defeat a jounin like Baki nearly as easily if they ever fought simply because Baki isn't a nameless piece of fodder. Conversely, you have supposedly elite ninja such as ANBU getting defeated easily because they don't matter to the story.

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Originally Posted by 0Taku0

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Can't wait to see the conclusion, most likely there wont be a fight, (but who knows) what’s Kabuto planning to do? Will he also betray Orochimaru along with Sasuke? Remember... he almost killed Sasuke at that point in the hospital. Maybe he will go to sleep with cotton in his ears so he can't hear Orochimaru's crying calls...

Spoiler:

I want to see Kabuto betray Oro also, he's really too interesting of an a character to play Oro's lap dog the entire series.

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I thought it was interesting to note that the force of Naruto's Fuuton Rasengan was enough to fracture his hand upon impact. Though I don't think this a big deal with Naruto having the Kyuubi's healing power, if that was the damage done to his body at just 50%, using the completed jutsu could have very severe consequences for Naruto if he manages to land it. Also, Kakashi says he was prepared to use MS on Kakuzu if help hadn't arrived when it did, which makes me think that they aren't really bothering to observe chakra limits and stamina as much as they used to. Kakashi used Rakiri like seven times in that battle in addition to having the Sharingan activated.

seeing as how sakura is a medic nin and all, she should be helping out the wounded. i dunno, are there any laws against nurses getting close to their patients?

about ssk,

Spoiler:

i like the idea that he's just fighting against oro to test out where his strength's at right now, and whether he can still go forward while in that dysfunctional family. for some reason, i think oro's looking forward to testing his little pupil, explaining his little smile. that sick, sick, bastard.

Well since I posted a ton of summaries already, why not post the line by line we usually get? Enjoy until the scans are available.

Spoiler for translation by sho:

簡易バレ
A summary

(上から見たアングル)
サスケが倒して横たわっている忍はざっと100人以上もいた
それらが「うっ・・・」「・・・あ~」等うめいている
(From an angle up top)
The shinobi that Sasuke defeated are layed out, counting roughly over 100.
All of them are groaning, "ugh...", "...aa~" and the like.

大蛇丸「非情にならなければイタチには勝てないわよ」
Orochimaru- "You will not succeed against Itachi if you cannot become heartless."
サスケ、スッと立ち上がる
Sasuke stands straight up.

サスケ「あいつの前では非情になるさ 否が応でもな」
Sasuke- "When it comes to him, I will be heartless. Whether you like it or not."

サスケ地面に刺さった刀を抜き、帯に差して歩き出す
その姿を大蛇丸は遠くから腕組して見ている
Sasuke removes his sword from where it's driven into the cracked ground and begins to walk, sheathing it into his obi (the kimono sash).
Orochimaru folds his arms and watches him from a distance.

大蛇丸(返り血を一滴も・・・この子をみてると・・)
(天才と呼ばれていた自分が惨めに思えてくるわね・・)
Orochimaru- (All it takes is one drop of blood staining his hands...when you look at this boy...)
(He seems to have grown miserable, this genius of mine...)

大蛇丸(あと少し・・ほんの少しで私のもの・・!)
舌なめずりする大蛇丸とサスケのアップ。夕日をバックに広い大地
Orochimaru- (A little more...just a little more and it's all mine...!)
There's a close-up shot of Orochimaru licking his lips with his tongue, standing with Sasuke. A setting sun backdrops a vast expanse of land.

(横から見たアングル)
おびただしい数の横たわった忍びたち、その数おそらく千人以上
(Seen from a side angle)
There's a huge mass of sprawled out shinobi. An amount that would most likely exceed even 1000.

場面変わって一楽。サイ・ナルト・サクラの三人でラーメン食べてる
ナルト「あちっ!」
ナルト「やっぱ左手じゃ食いづれーってばよ・・」右手に包帯をしている
The scene changes to the Ichiraku. Three people- Sai, Naruto, and Sakura- are eating ramen.
Naruto- "Ah~ ouch!"
Naruto- "I guess I have to use my left hand to eat then." His right hand is wrapped in bandages.

それを見ているサクラの回想。どこかの病院。ベッドでナルトの腕を治療している
Seeing that, Sakura thinks back to when they were in the hospital. Naruto's arm was recieving medical treatment while he was in bed.

サクラ「何か所も骨折してる・・体が術にもちこたえれてない」
「この新術はここぞって時だけ!多用しちゃダメだからね!」
Sakura- "That's a bone fracture you have in there. Your body can't endure the technique."
"This new technique should only be for this time! Use it anymore and you're done for!"

ナルト「へへ・・大丈夫サクラちゃんが治してくれれば」
Naruto- "Hehe...I'm alright as long as you heal me, Sakura-chan."

ナルト「・・」「でも・・オレってばこういうの何か嬉しいんだ」
「サクラちゃんと一緒にサスケに近づいてる気がすっから」
Naruto- "..."
"But...doing something like this makes me happy."
"And that's because together with Sakura-chan, it feels as if we're getting closer to Sasuke."

はっとするサクラ。ナルトは笑う。席を近づけ「はい あーん」とするが
そこに笑いのオチがあり、その後カカシが登場
Sakura is taken aback. Naruto laughs/smiles.
Taking a seat closer, she goes, "Right. Now say 'aa'".
There's a little omission to when they are laughing. After that, Kakashi makes an appearance.

サクラ「病院で寝込まないなんて珍しいですね。カカシ先生」
カカシ「そんなイメージついちゃってるのね、今のオレ・・ショック」
Sakura- "It's rare to see you not laying in bed at the hospital, Kakashi-sensei."

Kakashi- "You just have to have that image of me stuck in your head. I'm shocked."

カカシ「ま、今回は万華鏡写輪眼を使わずに済んだからね」
(角都に捕らえらて攻撃を受ける瞬間のカカシの回想)
Kakashi- "Well, it's because this time I didn't settle for using the Mangekyou Sharingan."

(Kakashi has a flashback on taking on Kakuzu and the moment he recieved his offensive.)

カカシ「あの時お前達が駆けつけてくれなかったら、また確実に使っていた」
「今頃、イメージ通りベッドの上だったな アハハ」
Kakashi- "If you guys didn't come to rush in after us at that time, I would have most assuredly used it again."

"And your image of me lying on this bed around this time would have been right. Ahaha"

何か考えているナルト。それを見ているカカシ
Naruto is thinking about something. Kakashi looks at him.

"I will go change the dosage. Please wait while I do so." Kabuto leaves the room.

なぜか狂ったように高笑いする大蛇丸。だがすぐ咳き込み、血を吐く。
両腕にはグルグル巻きになった呪印のような模様がある
For some reason, Orochimaru begins to laugh uncontrollably. But then soon after he starts hacking up blood. Wrapped all around his arms like bandages are seal patterns.

そこへ突然、部屋を突き破り大蛇丸を狙うチャクラの刀が伸びる
大蛇丸それを両手のクロスガードで受け止める。
大蛇丸「このチャクラ性質は・・だがこの形態変化は見たことがない」
And it's there that, abruptly, a chakra blade pierces through the room aimed at Orochimaru.
Orochimaru stops it by forming a cross-guard with his arms.
Orochimaru- "This chakra nature... but I've never encountered such a form manipulation before."

大蛇丸「誰なの?」
(上から見たアングル。チャクラの刀は20m近く伸びている)
Orochimaru- "Who is it?" (The angle is from up top. A blade of chakra stretches close to 20m.) (translator's note: Goddamn!)

戸を切り裂いて出てきたのはサスケ
Slicing the door apart comes Sasuke.

大蛇丸「やっぱり・・そう来たわね」
Orochimaru- "So...you come after all."

サスケ「もうアンタに教わることは何も無い」
Sasuke- "There's nothing left for you to teach me."

サスケ「・・アンタの前でも・・ 非情になれそうだ」
Sasuke- "...And when it comes to you, I will be heartless."

写輪眼を出すサスケ、顔には呪印状態1の模様が浮かび上がる
Sasuke activates the Sharingan, and the first level of the cursed seal runs across his face.

Beating is sure impressive, but I would like to wait to see how he had achieved that.

If it took him a lot of time or using cursed seal effects to beat that many, I will not put him above Yondaime, although he will still be at high level.

Spoiler:

Did someone said Sasuke was above Yondaime's power? If you thought it was what I meant by comparing their feats be assured that it wasn't the case.
But I admit if this spoiler is accurate I would rate Sasuke way higher than I thought he would be, not just because he beat over a thousands guy unscratched but because Orochimaru basically admit that Sasuke is a way greater genius than even him (). Seriously that's just sick.
By the time Naruto and Sasuke will fight one other, they will destroy half the country doing so.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Johnny 5

I doubt that....and rather....that's impossible because when Yondaime was known as the Yellow Flash....Orochimaru was already banned out of the Fire Country...teaming up with Sasori in the group Akatsuki.

No, Oro only left after Sandaime choose Yondaime.
But I agree, no way.

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Originally Posted by Ero-Senn1n

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I would not compare those 1000 noname ninja to the 50 ninja defeated by Yondaime. Orochimaru is hiding because of the akatsuki and ANBU after him, he will never engage into some big battle against ninja that actually matter, in which case some great ninja would be involved. In this case there were probably ninja whose life or death does not matter, they are just material for Kabuto's disgusting medical stuff. When Orochimaru got his body it was a battle royale between hundreds of ninja, yet the winner was not even wounded, and we know that he was rather weak compared to the main characters. Then there was the big ninja war: those 50 ninja were the elite of the battlefield because they destroyed the konoha forces before Yondaime arrived. So i think those 50 ninja were overall stronger than these 1000 ninja.

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-Orochimaru attacked Konoha, so much for laying low and not engaging big battle..
-The battle royal involved a dozen a ninja at most
-Those 50 ninjas were the survivors of a Rock nin battalion among the 1000 Rock nin involved in the front line, they were not particulary the elite.
Personally I see no reason to think they were weaker but they very might well be, it doesn't matter much anyway.
According to the way the scene is drawn with the scene zooming off two times to show the extent of the battlefield this is meant purely as a Holly Shit moment.
We probably will never hear about those guy or know from whose country/village/organization they belong again. They were just a way to keep presenting Naruto as an underdog whereas he just beat an Akatsuki (almost) by himself.

If you thought it was what I meant by comparing their feats be assured that it wasn't the case.

Spoiler:

If you mean yourself no. It was more like a continuum of your reply rather than a direct response to your comments.

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Spoiler:

But I admit if this spoiler is accurate I would rate Sasuke way higher than I thought he would be, not just because he beat over a thousands guy unscratched but because Orochimaru basically admit that Sasuke is a way greater genius than even him ().

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Oro didn't have Sharingan after all, so it is very possible that he would have let his blood spilled, if he were in place of Sasuke.

In truth, I don't like the expression Oro used for Sasuke. If he thinks of Sasuke like that, then compared to Itachi, Oro should be beyond worthless and pitiful. Honestly, doesn't make any sense, even though we know the source of the genius of Itachi and Sasuke. Or maybe, Oro just considers the ability of sharingan beyond of what he can achieve on his own. That is another sick comment. He underestimates himself so much or, similarly, overestimates the ability of Sharingan (Oro should stop playing with his own body while watching Sasuke fighting, not helpful in achieving full concentration and forming objective views).

Anyway, at least I can be comfortable with one side of that comment. According to Sandaime, Tsunade, and Jiraiya, we can assume that Oro was considered a pitiful being, so in that aspect, you gotta love the honesty.

All this talk about Sasuke's power but no one has talk about the other part of the chp.

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Sakura is FEEDING Naruto in hospital.

That is a significant step forward in thier relationship. Hinata fans better hope she shows up soon or she might as well not show up at all.

Ow yes I noticed that earlier, but no one care when I go into this kind of stuff... Looks like my history of weird parings got me cornered here XD.
But I do like the idea of him getting fed It will look so peaceful & sweet.

People will suspiciously glare at me for the next ^^' (my fantasy didn't slow down at all by growing up And it's NOT shounen-ai)

Spoiler:

So Sasuke turned his back on Orochimaru now. He'll possibly be able to escape thanks to Naruto & co during a new rescue operation as they know it's about time for the body switch jutsu.
Sasuke, once retrieved will act a little heartless, but less than before when they met the first time.
In Konoha, after a while, he might offer his excuses to Naruto for all he did and said... Then, when Naruto gets emotional and cries a little, Sasuke extends a chakra blade, wanting to kill Naruto, to obtain Mangekyou Sharingan as he's in a hurry to kill Itachi. Naruto getting emotional gives an opening to attack him...
A jounin sees everything and gets killed to save Naruto (maybe one of the sensei... Iruka?).
Naruto gets really angry and goes 4 tail inside Konoha with Sasuke having to rely on the Cursed Seal to match Naruto's strenght. They start a violent fight, wiping out an entire block in Konoha.
Thanks to the intervention of Jiraiya, Kakashi and Yamato they can stop the fight before Konoha gets wiped out by a 4-tail Fuuton Rasenshuriken.
Sasuke gets locked up under heavy ANBU surveillance with seals etc, while Naruto gets his part of sanctions as well and good for a new training in controlling emotions... possibly by Sai, with background information about Danzou and slowly moving to a Danzou + Orochimaru arc.