But whenever they stand over someones grave and say 'he was a good man', there was nothing else to say. "No harm done" on the tombstone.Good by life is different from good in death.Like chicken is good in death, where a cat is good in life. Chickens even really don't seem to mind the prospect of death as gravely as say pigs or ducks. In the first moments they don't even notice that they're dead. There must not be a very stark change.

Hallucinated because each reality can only be perfect when it has only one person in it ?It is a wonderfully Utopian notion except for the fact that it is still one person too manyFor if you want truly perfect realities then you need to remove human beings altogetherThe best reality of all is death because it is a place free from all suffering for all of time

Hallucinated because each reality can only be perfect when it has only one person in it ?It is a wonderfully Utopian notion except for the fact that it is still one person too manyFor if you want truly perfect realities then you need to remove human beings altogetherThe best reality of all is death because it is a place free from all suffering for all of time

if anyone could have their dreams come true forever, the thought of the impossible eternal death would never cross their minds. This is only a situational truth, not a universal truth for all being (which is why we still exist and always will)

My dream would be to be dead forever then I would no longer be able to suffer anymore But because I am going to die I do not need to dream it as it is actually going to happenLiving forever is worse than being dead for you can never leave not even if you want to

surreptitious75 wrote:My dream would be to be dead forever then I would no longer be able to suffer anymore But because I am going to die I do not need to dream it as it is actually going to happenLiving forever is worse than being dead for you can never leave not even if you want to

I'm sorry. I'm going to have to hold your hand for a second. You see, if you ever die, then you cease to exist, throughout all space and time and beyond.

Wait! You do exist! You do the math!

Now since the stakes ARE infinite, you'll start considering morality. Obviously, finite lives have a stake of 0%.

Maybe you folks will stop being cocky for a change and listen and pay attention.

Ecmandu wrote:if you ever die then you cease to exist throughout all space and time and beyond

Just because you want to live forever does not mean everyone else wants toI have absolutely no problem with death either philosophically or in realityAnd eternal non consciousness free from all suffering is as good as it gets

Ecmandu wrote:if you ever die then you cease to exist throughout all space and time and beyond

Just because you want to live forever does not mean everyone else wants toI have absolutely no problem with death either philosophically or in realityAnd eternal non consciousness free from all suffering is as good as it gets

The point I am making. I agree with you, but that's not how reality is. Use logic. If you die, you were never born. Proof through contradiction.

Ecmandu wrote:Now since the stakes ARE infinite you will start considering morality

Maybe you folks will stop being cocky for a change and listen and pay attention

The stakes are not infinite and death is the answer not morality

I can only pay attention while I am still alive and before eternal non consciousness occurs

I gave you the proof through contradiction, and you're plugging your ears saying "I can't hear you!"

And you're projecting states to me that aren't true, I've tried harder than most to try to destroy existence... I learned the hard way... existence doesn't get destroyed. You don't think I was you at one point? Search deep in your heart. Why don't you then just commit not only suicide but destroy the earth...

Ecmandu wrote:Continuity of consciousness is your existence should it ever cease to exist by time travelers in the past or a death in the infinite future poof you couldnt be right now

Continuity of consciousness and time travellers in the past are simply mental constructs of your own imaginationEternal existence is not possible because of the Second Law Of Thermodynamics while death is eternally possible