_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

still unbelivable to me that indy has 8 wins ! I feel like there just as worse or if not WORSE than SAN .

Maybe Pokey should be COY

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

still unbelivable to me that indy has 8 wins ! I feel like there just as worse or if not WORSE than SAN .

They're just as bad as San Antonio as a team. The only reason Indiana has more wins than San Antonio is they have a veteran head coach. It's not that they have any better of a roster. Chicago has a much better roster than both Indiana and San Antonio but they only have 8 wins because of a rookie head coach. If the Sky kept Pokey Chatman as head coach, and with the roster they have now, I believe they'd have a couple more wins at this point than they do. But all in all, and all things considering, Chicago has done better than I thought they would by this time in the season. Phoenix is still the team I'm most surprised about. I didn't think they'd be as high up in the standings only bringing 2 players back from last years team and losing Dupree, Bonner and Taylor. And the players they added, Camille Little, Danielle Robinson, Leilani Mitchell and the others whom I don't even remember, I didn't think they'd be enough to compensate for what they lost. But they're doing ok. They're going to drop further in the standings while Griner is out, but once she's back, they'll be making a push for 2nd or 3rd place in the standings.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

This is what stands out the most to me . No improvement in a course of 2 years is all i can think of.

Untrue! Two years ago they were 6-19 through 25 games!

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

The importance of elite players in basketball: The three teams at the bottom of the Changes list (thanks pilight) each lost an Olympian.

Los Angeles doesn't have any elite players by your definition. They won a championship last season. Maybe you can surmise that winning a championship once without elite players (through luck, bad reffing, what have you), but sustaining that kind of pinnacle of success is unlikely.

_________________Nnekalonians 1:14 - Thou shalt not accept that which is not earned

The importance of elite players in basketball: The three teams at the bottom of the Changes list (thanks pilight) each lost an Olympian.

The Sparks are without the services of their Olympian, Ana Dabovic, and seem to be doing just fine, though I suppose some of that has to do with them brining back their only other Olympian in Sandrine Gruda.

The importance of elite players in basketball: The three teams at the bottom of the Changes list (thanks pilight) each lost an Olympian.

I think this calls into question the Win Shares calculation. According to basketball ref. last season Catchings was worth 3.8 WS, while Angel was worth 3.1. So far, both teams 6 games worse, and in Atlanta's case they have a better supporting cast this season.

The importance of elite players in basketball: The three teams at the bottom of the Changes list (thanks pilight) each lost an Olympian.

Los Angeles doesn't have any elite players by your definition. They won a championship last season. Maybe you can surmise that winning a championship once without elite players (through luck, bad reffing, what have you), but sustaining that kind of pinnacle of success is unlikely.

He didn't explicitly define "elite player", but I don't think he was implying that it was only players chosen by Geno Auriemma for the Olympic team.

The importance of elite players in basketball: The three teams at the bottom of the Changes list (thanks pilight) each lost an Olympian.

Los Angeles doesn't have any elite players by your definition. They won a championship last season. Maybe you can surmise that winning a championship once without elite players (through luck, bad reffing, what have you), but sustaining that kind of pinnacle of success is unlikely.

Being an Olympian isn't the only definition -- but CP3 has been an Olympian and Nneka should be.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________Is the relinquishment of the trial by jury and the liberty of the press necessary for your liberty? Will the abandonment of your most sacred rights tend to the security of your liberty? Liberty, the greatest of all earthly blessings—give us that precious jewel, and you may take every thing else!… Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel.

_________________"Sue Bird and Lauren Jackson were and are the dynamic duo. They're the one-two punch. They're all the clich�s possible to describe people that perfectly complement each other, who make each other better and also bring out the best in the team." �Karen Bryant