It is kind of sad. I used to be a supporter of their cards. Then i got a 6800gt and after that i never looked back. Maybe some day they will make a comeback but right now nVidia is making some serious cards at great prices, thats tough to beat.

There is do doubt it could be twice as fast as the 8800 Ultra..but will it RUN games twice as faster? cuz if everyone remembers correctly ATI already taunted back at launch that that the Radeon HD 2900XT was faster than the 8800GTX...and well we all know what happened next...

and even then if it is not ULTRA cheap it wont even have a chance against the NVIDIAs 8800GT

whatevers fastest. I chose the 7 series over what ati was offering then, and now the debate is between the 8800GT or the upcomming ATI 3870...we will see when the reviews come in. The ATI one stomps it on paper...just waiting for real bechmarks.

I dont understand why the console fanbois never cease to bring their holy grail n00bstick console into something that involves only PC's. Consoles are a totally different design and has no parallel with PC graphics card. Grow up n00bs!