I've been looking at reviews and every time I see Fury X beating a 390X by a mere 15% margin at 1080p I get the idea that there's still some performance left that needs to be found...not in the least because it has 45% more SPs lol. Makes you wonder what performance levels will be six weeks from now.

I've been looking at reviews and every time I see Fury X beating a 390X by a mere 15% margin at 1080p I get the idea that there's still some performance left that needs to be found...not in the least because it has 45% more SPs lol. Makes you wonder what performance levels will be six weeks from now.

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Too true. As I mentioned in the review thread (although I think it was overshadowed by the trolls...) I believe the Fury X current driver is more of a temporary solution. There was absolutely no point in AMD fully optimising the Windows 8.1 driver for it since Windows 8.1 has 5 weeks of life left. This means the drive is effectively kind of working off the 390X optimisations (since this is a card refresh). This is why there isn't the performance different shown. It probably also can't make use of the extra memory bandwidth afforded by HBM either. Realistically, you would have to be an idiot to want Fury X, the latest hardware for the rest of the machine, and still be stubborn not to move from Windows 7 and 8.1. The ironic thing about their stubborness is if they weren't 'forced' to move, but the upgrade was still free, they would probably upgrade!

Anyways, the focus the past few months has been on the Windows 10 driver. Not specifically just DirectX 12, but also reducing the DirectX 11 overhead and optimising the use of card resources etc. We've had a taste of this in the leaked 1040 driver build, but the real performance benefits will come to light come Windows 10 release (if not beforehand). This is in AMD's advantage, since the Nvidia drivers already got the 'DirectX 11' love in response to AMD's Mantle last year. In other words, AMD has more headroom potential!

Has anyone done some 3dmark DX12 testing in Windows 10?
That should be interesting and should give an indication of future performance.

I also think there's improvement to be found in future drivers.

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As above, and yes I think DirectX 12 will shine on this, and other GCN cards as well. You cant' really do any benchmarks yet, because the current leaked Windows 10 drivers don't support Fury (I believe anyway). It would also be misleading since there could be changes to the Windows 10 performance come RTM, as well as the drivers.

API Overhead
1st launch driver for 8.1, no DX12.
2nd 15.200.1040.0 Tonga code path.
3rd 15.200.1040.0 Tahiti code path.
4th 15.200.1023.10 Fiji code path. (quite best in everything. On DX11 just a little bit)
5th 15.200.1046.0 (15.7 WHQL)
6th 15.200.1055.0 (original does not have code path for Fiji, but inf config added by asder00. So not fully Fiji aware.); While it does best in draw calls, its gaming performance is under 1023.10/1046.0 and crashes firefox in case you have game open and then open new tab.
7th 15.200.1046.2 Seems like it has improvements from 15.200.1055 but does not cause crashes.
8th 15.200.1062.1002 (15.7.1 W10 release driver)
9th 16.150.1009-160213a (Vulkan release driver)

Heaven benchmark

Witcher:

Everything Maxed.
1080p: 73~120fps (limit set in RP)
1440p: 68~120fps (limit set in RP)
2160p: 59~115fps
Not really worth even 1440p since 4xAA on 1080p looks exactly same as there are no detail textures/geometry. GPU mostly idles on 1080p/1440p even when fps is close to lower limit.

At very good custom settings (visually) I used with HD7970, it was running outside in villages/forest 40~48fps at 100% utilization.Fury X does at very same settings 94~105fps. No complains here.
Found nicely heavy location (Forest area, standing/running right next to river; small village across the river.):
1080p: 93~107fps
1440p: 68~73fps
2160p: 34~40fps
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W10 - 15.200.1023.10:
1080p: 93~109fps
1440p: 65~77fps
2160p: 33~42fps
Practically no improvement since GPU was 100% utilized on all resolutions.

Battlefield 4:

Some review stated that mantle does in BF 4 now worse than DX11. That I can confirm for release driver meant for W7/8.1. No W10 native driver yet.
But how it runs on Mantle: 1080p maximum details (including max AA, HBAO, everything possible) + maximum FoV: 125fps +4k (1080p with downsampling from 4k) again maximum details, but AA turned down to 2x: 55fps+
On DX11 it runs better like 19~30%. I would say there is something wrong, but well, that is what I measured.

On test range in menu, which adds additional blur, I tested FPS which is greatly reduced due to this blur. I got (all maximum, including fov):

Everything Maximum, 8x SSAA+FXAA (just about everything possible).
1080p: 155~280fps
1440p: 152~255fps
2160p: 123~180fps
And this is in spectate mode flying around. Because in 1st person view fps is like 25% higher, and I wanted to put some load to see some worst case scenario since it did so well.

DOTA 2:

Maximum everything, tested in spectate mode with maximum zoom out to see most geometry.
1080p: 78~120fps
1440p: 73~120fps
2160p: 75~120fps
All lowest were in teamfights and GPU was not fully utilized, CPU bottleneck/bad coding.
Side note: DOTA 2 does not like downsampling as mouse cursor is not at proper place. At 2160p game thinks it is only at top left quarter of screen. (easily fixed if you start game after setting desktop to 2160p too. Fix delivered by CalculuS.)
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W10 - driver 15.200.1023.10: (again spectating with max zoom out + unlocked fps with: fps_max 300)
1080p: 99~144fps ; around 25% GPU utilization
1440p: 87~135fps ; around 45% GPU utilization
2160p: 74~118fps ; around 95% GPU utilization
Now there is again improvement in min framerate, but seems like there is other than driver limit too. Because CS:GO (same engine) just runs unbelievable fps even on older driver.

Warframe:

Everything maxed out.
1080p: 270fps+
1440p: 250fps+
2160p: 138fps+

Dead Island:

Maxed out. Texture LOD settings "-1" enforced via RadeonPRO.
1080p: 120fps (limit set in RP)
1440p: 107~115 (locked by game, even main menu before loading any geometry runs on that fps)
2160p: 107~115 (locked by game, even main menu before loading any geometry runs on that fps)
In all resolutions fps was limited by software and GPU not fully utilized. DirectX 9 game.
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W10 Driver 15.200.1023.10 Fiji code path:
1080p: 207fps+
1440p: 198fps+
2160p: 124fps+
What a change. And btw, that famous Stutter this game had is completely gone.

I've been looking at reviews and every time I see Fury X beating a 390X by a mere 15% margin at 1080p I get the idea that there's still some performance left that needs to be found...not in the least because it has 45% more SPs lol. Makes you wonder what performance levels will be six weeks from now.

As for the driver, you just need to wait for AMD to find a way to feed this thing fast enough. Get ready to jump to Windows 10 really fast

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I am on Windows 10 already for quite some time. On my 1080p it will be underutilized, but at least I can use downsampling in more games and it will be put in proper use with Valve's Vive.
Will post some stuff from monitoring tools (GPU-z / HWiNFO64) if they will actually read it properly. Because for now HWiNFO could read only GPU temperature, not voltages, nor VRMs temperatures or power draw... (I am on bit older release, so new beta may already be able to read this chip.)

Will get to it as I get home... have one more errand to run... My old Accelero Xtreme cooled HD7970 has to travel 40km to cousin's wife's gaming PC, and I am one to install it.

Hi guys, I got mine delivered this morning after grabbing the last one at the retailer. I'm not an enthusiast, just got it for VR gaming (Elite dangerous) which I can't play at the mo until my DVI-DisplayPort adaptor arrives tomorrow, but if anyone needs info I will see what I can do. A guy just asked me to post VRM temps in another thread. Where do I find those? Thanks

Hi guys, I got mine delivered this morning after grabbing the last one at the retailer. I'm not an enthusiast, just got it for VR gaming (Elite dangerous) which I can't play at the mo until my DVI-DisplayPort adaptor arrives tomorrow, but if anyone needs info I will see what I can do. A guy just asked me to post VRM temps in another thread. Where do I find those? Thanks

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GPU-Z but ... i think is not supported right now, because is a new GPU. But give a try