Post subject: Re: Eden Foods is suing to get out of covering contraception

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:39 pm

No-pants hermit 4 lyfe

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annak wrote:

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We believe in a woman's right to decide, and have access to, all aspects of their health care and reproductive management. This lawsuit does not block, or intend to block, anyone's access to health care or reproductive management. This lawsuit is about protecting religious freedom and stopping the government from forcing citizens to violate their conscience. We object to the HHS mandate and its government overreach.

Hey that's cool, I believe in a right to decide what brands of food to buy, too. And yesterday, I was about to pick up a box of Eden when I needed some shelf-stable soy milk, and then I bought a different brand instead.

i'm sure he will applaud your actions as a discerning consumer.

_________________"rise from the ashes of douchebaggery like a fancy vegan phoenix" - amandabear"I'm pretty sure the moral of this story is: fork pants." - cq

he doesn't seem to understand the difference between having a right to practice religion freely and having a right to impose your religious practice on other individuals.

he also doesn't seem to understand that by simply having employees that take birth control, he's supporting the practice by simply paying them a wage. if he wants his religious sanctity to be unmarred, he needs to only hire religious people who only have sex when they're willing to keep any resultant fetus.

he doesn't understand that wages and health insurance are both benefits that ultimately source from the company's bank account and are up to the employee to use as they wish. (since it's no-longer the employer's money or health insurance once it changes hands)

Post subject: Re: Eden Foods is suing to get out of covering contraception

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:03 pm

Drinks Wild Tofurkey

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:17 pmPosts: 2853Location: Boston, MA

kind of OT but some of those Facebook comments are..unusual.

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I have been trying for years to get pregnant due to thyroid trouble caused by exposures in my environment & past generational (I've forgiven u grandma!) food choices that were pushed on my ancestors by corporate greed in the food companies! (White bread, white sugar, soil depletion & iodized salt to mention a few)

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Just carry more organics and no soy, please.

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Perhaps real health issues such as that of GMO soy products which eden sells, should be of greater concern. Priorities!!!

_________________"If I were M. de la Viandeviande, I would now write a thirteen page post about how you have to have free will to be vegan, but modern science does not suggest any evidence for free will, therefore it is impossible to be vegan." -mumbles

_________________"If I were M. de la Viandeviande, I would now write a thirteen page post about how you have to have free will to be vegan, but modern science does not suggest any evidence for free will, therefore it is impossible to be vegan." -mumbles

Post subject: Re: Eden Foods is suing to get out of covering contraception

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:38 pm

Drinks Wild Tofurkey

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:17 pmPosts: 2853Location: Boston, MA

IsaChandra wrote:

They might get Tea Partiers to support them, but here's the problem: Tea Partiers don't eat aduki beans and umeboshi paste.

It's ok. I've figured out that we just need to eat white bread as birth control anyway. Who needs their adzuki beans OR their paid birth control?

_________________"If I were M. de la Viandeviande, I would now write a thirteen page post about how you have to have free will to be vegan, but modern science does not suggest any evidence for free will, therefore it is impossible to be vegan." -mumbles

Post subject: Re: Eden Foods is suing to get out of covering contraception

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:28 pm

Fair trade, organic mistletoe

Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:52 amPosts: 3518Location: Toronto

beforewisdom wrote:

Fee wrote:

Favorite part = mansplaining the same exact shiitake over and over. No, we got it the first time, apparently being a woman is a lifestyle choice.

I agree that he is only rehashing Eden's position . I don't agree with your use of "mansplaining" or him saying that being a woman is a lifestyle choice. The letter states that Eden also does not support paying for viagra or other impotency medications.

Not getting pregnant=/=not being able to get a boner.

_________________"I'd rather have dried catshit! I'd rather have astroturf! I'd rather have an igloo!"~Isa

"But really, anyone willing to dangle their baby in front of a crocodile is A-OK in my book."~SSD

It really doesn't seem like he understands at all what the health insurance overhaul really requires him (and others) to do. It doesn't sound like he got any real legal advice before filing this suit. He just jumped on board based on some vague gut reaction.

It really doesn't seem like he understands at all what the health insurance overhaul really requires him (and others) to do. It doesn't sound like he got any real legal advice before filing this suit. He just jumped on board based on some vague gut reaction.

Yeah, especially since his reason for doing it is because birth control doesn't feel right - he won't actually site religious beliefs as the backbone of his argument. Weird.

Is Eden foods paying people to post on message boards for damage control now?

i recognize the username, i think this is legit. (i've been interacting with someone with this exact same username over on livejournal since 2006, so unless there's an eden rep that either ganked nepenthes' username from elsewhere, or nepenthes is a shill, then i think it's a legit personal opinion. nothing wrong with a different opinion from a long-time vegan joining in.)