I do admit that I like what I read. Still, the Tiger is an absolute blast to ride, and in some ways better for me than the GS was. The suspension on the GS was too harsh for me - 72kg isn't the typical Bavarian build ...

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Sadly 110kg aint a regular size either..... if you're not in that sweet zone, ESA's a bitch as it means I ride around with single rider and luggage mode on....

Be nice if you could option for a stronger preload.....

*(yes I know, lose weight, but I bench more'n I weigh, got to, just to get the GSA upright! )

I think it's partly the stupid exhaust valve thing that kicks in at certain RPM for German noise regulations. I never actually noticed it on the 2010 I had:

It certainly looks pretty bad, but I really never noticed. I noticed the hacking, kicking, and bucking of the Multi below 3.5k rpm (Disclaimer: the one I tested was super bad, there seems to have been improvements and the 2013 adds a lot of improvements for this, too) much more and it annoyed me much more than the weird torque curve of the boxer.

I had a 2010 R1200GS and this curve was barely noticeable when riding. There was a bit of a dip around 5k rpm, but it wasn't bad or so. And in normal riding, the behavior below 5k was much more important for me. I'm not certain how much you'll actually feel the dips on the new one. Time will tell.

OK, I put together a table using values from the above chart and the Woxer torque curve I previously posted. Here are the torque values for each and the % increase for the Woxer engine:

Nm Torque

RPM

Camhead

Woxer

% Inc.

3,000

99

108

8.3%

4,000

109

112

2.8%

5,000

113

122

8.0%

6,000

120

122

1.7%

7,000

108

123

13.9%

johnjen screwed with this post 10-10-2012 at 10:36 PM
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...just like the rest of us, there's simply nothing that compares with it right now, right?

I've been reading this thrad for a long time now, I now believe BMW have released a youtube video brain washing you all. "ze stupid peoples vill never know Vy zay shtopped liking ze Triumph, he he"
Don't get me wrong I'm a GS fan and have ridden boxers almost exclusively for the last 15 years. But Jeez the hedonism in this thread is driving me away. Lets get some real world tests before anouncing it has taken over from sliced bread.

I've been reading this thrad for a long time now, I now believe BMW have released a youtube video brain washing you all. "ze stupid peoples vill never know Vy zay shtopped liking ze Triumph, he he"
Don't get me wrong I'm a GS fan and have ridden boxers almost exclusively for the last 15 years. But Jeez the hedonism in this thread is driving me away. Lets get some real world tests before anouncing it has taken over from sliced bread.

Good point.
Actually as much as I like what I see I'm also 100% happy with my 2010 camhead. There's nothing I miss when riding it.
Personally I wouldn't jump ship without having seen the real thing, too much money...
Do I think that the 2013 will be a success? Almost 100%.

I think it's partly the stupid exhaust valve thing that kicks in at certain RPM for German noise regulations. I never actually noticed it on the 2010 I had:

It certainly looks pretty bad, but I really never noticed. I noticed the hacking, kicking, and bucking of the Multi below 3.5k rpm (Disclaimer: the one I tested was super bad, there seems to have been improvements and the 2013 adds a lot of improvements for this, too) much more and it annoyed me much more than the weird torque curve of the boxer.

I had a 2010 R1200GS and this curve was barely noticeable when riding. There was a bit of a dip around 5k rpm, but it wasn't bad or so. And in normal riding, the behavior below 5k was much more important for me. I'm not certain how much you'll actually feel the dips on the new one. Time will tell.