I never really consciously tried dating, but I have met quite a few women over the years who I got involved with sexually/romantically. I always got the feeling from women that I was being manipulated by their feminine charms, by their measured praise, and by their guilt tripping. I think evolution produced women as specialized at manipulating men into doing what the women want.

I am generally friends with people who are serious about philosophy, and who are interested in non-attachment and liberation from the human condition. There are such people out there believe it or not, but not too many.

I have no doubt there are some very warm feelings and a sense of security that can come from such relationships, but I can't help but think there is a serious "price to pay" for such cozy mind states.

Metaphorically, my mental state is like that guy on the discovery channel, surviving by himself with limited means in some really hostile environment. I like the rugged individualism.

I hate to break it to you, but manipulation, guilt tripping and charm ain't a trait exclusive to women. The reason you might notice it in them (and in turn, apply it to every woman, through your beliefs with regards to some assinine theory of human evolution) is that you don't care about what men do because it doesn't affect you in any sexual or emotional way.

I hate to break it to you, but manipulation, guilt tripping and charm ain't a trait exclusive to women. The reason you might notice it in them (and in turn, apply it to every woman, through your beliefs with regards to some assinine theory of human evolution) is that you don't care about what men do because it doesn't affect you in any sexual or emotional way.

I never said it was exclusive to women, nor did I apply it to every woman.

But it's true, since women have a much greater capacity to deliver emotional and sexual gratification, I have to be extra careful when dealing with them.

Honestly... if that were really the case... why would you ever get married?

I can certainly appreciate the feminine form as much the next guy and there are a TON of women that I've seen who have made me say "dayum!" but that doesn't mean that I'm jumping on them like a caveman just because I have a dick.

Who cares if they have big guns? Who cares if they have a great ass? Part of the beauty of having a wife or g/f is that you have someone who is genuinely CRAZY about you and CARES about you (in addition to the attraction).

Why would you want to jeopardize that for some chick who could be the biggest headcase and/or skank in the world? Makes no sense.

Look at Tiger's wife and look at these chicks that he's fooled around with. Do you really see some sort of overwhelming appeal there?

If I were a celeb I'd be even MORE paranoid lol... I'd be thinking that these women were just trying to trap me for dollars (a lesson that Tiger's learning now ahahaha).

Honestly... if that were really the case... why would you ever get married?

I can certainly appreciate the feminine form as much the next guy and there are a TON of women that I've seen who have made me say "dayum!" but that doesn't mean that I'm jumping on them like a caveman just because I have a dick.

Who cares if they have big guns? Who cares if they have a great ass? Part of the beauty of having a wife or g/f is that you have someone who is genuinely CRAZY about you and CARES about you (in addition to the attraction).

Why would you want to jeopardize that for some chick who could be the biggest headcase and/or skank in the world? Makes no sense.

Look at Tiger's wife and look at these chicks that he's fooled around with. Do you really see some sort of overwhelming appeal there?

If I were a celeb I'd be even MORE paranoid lol... I'd be thinking that these women were just trying to trap me for dollars (a lesson that Tiger's learning now ahahaha).

its not about jumping at every hot chick that walks by you. im pretty sure tiger was turning them down left and right a few years ago... but after a while, its hard to keep pushing them back... especially when you may not be getting it at home.
if you eat steak every night for 5 years, sometimes you crave mcdonalds.

If you want to play the field then STAY SINGLE. Fuck everything is sight if you want. But once you make a commitment... honour it. For God's sake he's been married how long? 2 or 3 years?? And look at his wife! Not exactly a homely chick is she?

Acie might be right (about him being awkward with girls before) but I find it hard to believe that he didn't have any groupies at Stanford. He was a big deal even back then before he went pro. He should have had SOME experience with tha ladies.

Hey its not that easy! You should make millions and be the face of a sport and have women throw themselves at you. He's a human not a god... mistakes happen

Where are people getting the idea that I said it was ok? I didn't say it was ok, I'm just saying why are you making a big deal out of what an asshole this particular guy is when lots of other people are doing.

Further lots of people that don't do it, WOULD do it if they were provided the "ideal scenario". Ask people straight up and they will tell you, dream scenario, they would cheat! The rest of them are lying.

I've never cheated on anyone and I've been presented with the opportunity. Each and every opportunity is different and one might end up nabbing you. I don't believe ANYONE is immune to cheating because we are governed by our emotions.

You can laugh when you shouldn't, cry when you shouldn't, get angry and act out when you shouldn't. Somehow you feel it will be different than when you get overwhelmed with attraction?! Get off it!

If you truly believe that you would never cheat under any scenario, you are kidding yourself!

Famous people get way more proposals for cheating and sometimes they get one that ensnares them.

Oh and don't "chick statement on cheating" B.S. GIRLS ARE BRUTAL when it comes to cheating. EVERYONE sucks... Stop sticking up for your side and just realize and accept the truth of the matter. PEOPLE CHEAT.

Calm 'er down there buddy. The "chick" thing was a joke.

Yeah, I know lots of girls that cheat. Of course.

I said "I hate cheaters" in general. Yes, everyone has the opportunity to cheat. I include myself in that. But if I met some guy that overwhelmed me to the point of wanting to sneak around on my boyfriend or husband, then I'd have to end it with him. Sneaking around is so fucking low, and only tears apart a person you're supposed to care about.

I've done that. I was much younger, but my attraction to my boyfriend went by the wayside and I made a mistake. I ended it right after, and I was so overwrought and disgusted with myself for letting it get to that point.

Make no mistake.... EVERYONE is going to face temptation in their lifetimes. EVERYONE.

But that doesn't mean that you should be incapable of saying no to random women if you're in a committed relationship.

No one forced him to get married. If he wasn't ready and wanted to indulge then he should have just stayed single. Easy.

It makes me sad when situations like this (Tiger... Bill Clinton..) happen because more & more people seem to get used to the idea that...

a) Giving in to temptation is "human" and "inevitable".

and

b) being a celeb of any kind gives you license to do whatever the hell you want without any lasting consequence.

Who cares if women throw themselves at you? How many sets of tits do you have to see before they all start to look the same?

Give me a woman knows what I like, can carry on a good conversation and is someone that I can trust. Wrap that up in an attractive (and intelligent) package and I'm a happy man.

Again... if you had that at home why would you jeopardize it?

You and I just disagree on this but the facts are that these people have resisted temptation more than you will ever been tempted in your life! You have no frame of reference as to what their lives are like, so how can you judge?

Their response to cheat (in the moment) is completely emotional and causing them to act out that way! The reason they don't fess up to it after the fact is because they have buyers remorse when logic takes over!

I saw a quick interview with Jesper Parnevik (the golfer who introduced Tiger to Elin) too and he didn't seem happy lol.... said that he THOUGHT that Tiger was a "good guy" when he introduced them... and that next time Elin should use the driver instead of the 9-iron. hahahaha....

He's Tiger Woods, he can get another woman. I think the $60M has factors behind it we're not seeing---As in, possibly legal issues. He did just commited adulatory and as such a prenupt may not save him in such a case. Then there's image. He obviously didn't mean for this blurp to get out, if it's true, which we don't know. If she stayed with him, and they appeared happy then that would work better to restore his image than a marriage meltdown right now. When it comes to endorements this whole thing could mean a lot more than $60M to Tiger. This could all be about business, and estate.

Bingo.

The law is a joke though. There is no way she should be entitled to 50% of his worth. Period. The 20 million in the pre nup is fair enough. 60 million is highway robbery.

Make no mistake.... EVERYONE is going to face temptation in their lifetimes. EVERYONE.

But that doesn't mean that you should be incapable of saying no to random women if you're in a committed relationship.

No one forced him to get married. If he wasn't ready and wanted to indulge then he should have just stayed single. Easy.

It makes me sad when situations like this (Tiger... Bill Clinton..) happen because more & more people seem to get used to the idea that...

a) Giving in to temptation is "human" and "inevitable".

and

b) being a celeb of any kind gives you license to do whatever the hell you want without any lasting consequence.

Who cares if women throw themselves at you? How many sets of tits do you have to see before they all start to look the same?

Give me a woman knows what I like, can carry on a good conversation and is someone that I can trust. Wrap that up in an attractive (and intelligent) package and I'm a happy man.

Again... if you had that at home why would you jeopardize it?

that last line is something only a single man would say.

it is so easy to condemn someone for cheating, but unless you are in that person's shoes, you have zero arguements.
saying that everyone has temptations in their life is true, but when you are a billionaire and have thousands of girls rubbing your thigh whenever you go out, then talk to me. the temptations you may face on a daily basis pale in comparison to what tiger deals with.

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"Who cares if women throw themselves at you? How many sets of tits do you have to see before they all start to look the same?"

this is an lose-lose statement... firstly, because the exact same thing can be said about his wife. how many times does he have to have sex with his wife before it becomes a boring chore? and secondly, because no guy ever gets tired of looking at tits. its impossible.
and who's to say he's even getting any on a nightly basis... or weekly basis, at that.

you can have the greatest will power in the world, but after a thousand mosquito bites, you will eventually scratch that itch.

I have to say Tiger picked some raunchy girls to fool around with. You would think the richest athlete in history would have better taste.

it isnt a coincidence... they never hook up with the hot/wifey material ones because those girls will cause problems and are headcases, its always the slutty one-and-done girls that they cheat with. they arent looking for the prom queen, they are just looking to get some quick action on the side. like i said earlier, its just sex for guys, nothing more.