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Beggar kicked out of Stockton Heath and banned from using cash machines

AN alcoholic who pretended to be homeless to beg for money on the streets has been banned from going near almost every cash point in Warrington.

Stephen John Johnstone, aged 41, of Archer Avenue, Latchford, has also been banned from entering the centre of Stockton Heath Village after hounding people to hand over cash.

Residents and shop staff had reported him to the police for begging on a daily basis, spitting on the floor, and urinating in shop doorways.

Witnesses said that after they complained to Johnstone, who is on benefits and has a home, he said ‘I’m not bothered, all I’ll get is a £15 fine, and have to walk back from Runcorn to Warrington, so it’s not that bad’.

A criminal anti-social behaviour order - known as a CRASBO - was approved at Halton Magistrates Court on Friday.

It means Johnstone, who smelt strongly of alcohol in court, cannot use, or loiter within 10m, of any external cash point in the town.

He is only allowed to use the ATM at the Old Market Place Post Office to collect welfare payments.

The defendant claimed he only begs when his benefit money runs out.

District Judge Bridget Knight said: “You are not a homeless man, you have got an address.

“You give the impression you are homeless so people feel sorry for you.

“You need to cut it out.”

Police say it is the first time a CRASBO has been enforced in Stockton Heath.

It was enforced after Johnstone pleaded guilty to eight counts of begging at Halton Magistrates Court on January 14.

The court heard how was seen begging on many occasions between September 11 and December 12, last year.

Police say he targeted Stockton Heath as an affluent area he was likely to make money begging.

Haunts used to scrounge included cash machines at Sainsburys on London Road; the doorway of shops; and the steps of Forge Shopping Centre.

Witnesses described as ‘intimidating’ and ‘abusive’, with female staff at Sainburys scared to lock the store up when he was outside.

Johnstone was also ‘sarcastic’ to anyone who refused to give him money saying ‘have a nice life’.

He was fined £35 and told to pay £15 costs.

Since pleading guilty, the defendant was again arrested for begging on Tuesday, March 18, outside of Sainsburys.

Police will take no further action after the CRASBO was passed last week.

Judge Knight warned Johnstone a breach of the order could result in a prison sentence of up to five years.

Following the case, PC Michelle Adamson said: “We have got to do our best for the businesses and public.

“People who gave this man money thought he was homeless and didn’t know he was on benefits, and had a house.

wirematt wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.

Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.[/p][/quote]Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.GRUMPY PARENT

wirematt wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.

Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.

He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.

[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.[/p][/quote]Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.[/p][/quote]He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.wirematt

wirematt wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.

Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.

He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.

So it doesn't matter that something tragic may have happened in his life turning him this way or that the mental health system in this country may have failed him. He is on benefits and gets his rent paid so let's exterminate the guy. God help all the other people on benefits who live in rented accommodation as your all sponging, unsociable rats in the eyes of wirematt! I know many professional people who go home and drink a few bottles of wine every night so what do you class them as? So the guy sits outside a shop begging for a few quid, so do kids on November the 5th I suppose we better give them all Crasbos as well. There is no difference!

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.[/p][/quote]Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.[/p][/quote]He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.[/p][/quote]So it doesn't matter that something tragic may have happened in his life turning him this way or that the mental health system in this country may have failed him. He is on benefits and gets his rent paid so let's exterminate the guy. God help all the other people on benefits who live in rented accommodation as your all sponging, unsociable rats in the eyes of wirematt! I know many professional people who go home and drink a few bottles of wine every night so what do you class them as? So the guy sits outside a shop begging for a few quid, so do kids on November the 5th I suppose we better give them all Crasbos as well. There is no difference!GRUMPY PARENT

wirematt wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.

Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.

He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.

So it doesn't matter that something tragic may have happened in his life turning him this way or that the mental health system in this country may have failed him. He is on benefits and gets his rent paid so let's exterminate the guy. God help all the other people on benefits who live in rented accommodation as your all sponging, unsociable rats in the eyes of wirematt! I know many professional people who go home and drink a few bottles of wine every night so what do you class them as? So the guy sits outside a shop begging for a few quid, so do kids on November the 5th I suppose we better give them all Crasbos as well. There is no difference!

Hahaha..you are twisting what I am saying and bringing stuff up which has nothing to do with the story.If this thing wanted help he would seek it. Seems to me grumpy that you feel this thing does no wrong.

[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.[/p][/quote]Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.[/p][/quote]He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.[/p][/quote]So it doesn't matter that something tragic may have happened in his life turning him this way or that the mental health system in this country may have failed him. He is on benefits and gets his rent paid so let's exterminate the guy. God help all the other people on benefits who live in rented accommodation as your all sponging, unsociable rats in the eyes of wirematt! I know many professional people who go home and drink a few bottles of wine every night so what do you class them as? So the guy sits outside a shop begging for a few quid, so do kids on November the 5th I suppose we better give them all Crasbos as well. There is no difference![/p][/quote]Hahaha..you are twisting what I am saying and bringing stuff up which has nothing to do with the story.If this thing wanted help he would seek it. Seems to me grumpy that you feel this thing does no wrong.wirematt

wirematt wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.

Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.

He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.

So it doesn't matter that something tragic may have happened in his life turning him this way or that the mental health system in this country may have failed him. He is on benefits and gets his rent paid so let's exterminate the guy. God help all the other people on benefits who live in rented accommodation as your all sponging, unsociable rats in the eyes of wirematt! I know many professional people who go home and drink a few bottles of wine every night so what do you class them as? So the guy sits outside a shop begging for a few quid, so do kids on November the 5th I suppose we better give them all Crasbos as well. There is no difference!

The difference is grumpy those professional people who go home and have a drink have been to work and not urinating in shop door ways and being a nuisance to society.

[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.[/p][/quote]Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.[/p][/quote]He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.[/p][/quote]So it doesn't matter that something tragic may have happened in his life turning him this way or that the mental health system in this country may have failed him. He is on benefits and gets his rent paid so let's exterminate the guy. God help all the other people on benefits who live in rented accommodation as your all sponging, unsociable rats in the eyes of wirematt! I know many professional people who go home and drink a few bottles of wine every night so what do you class them as? So the guy sits outside a shop begging for a few quid, so do kids on November the 5th I suppose we better give them all Crasbos as well. There is no difference![/p][/quote]The difference is grumpy those professional people who go home and have a drink have been to work and not urinating in shop door ways and being a nuisance to society.wirematt

A poster of this article up in every shop window saying do not give money to this scum, he's not homeless! should do the trick.

such a shame, so many homeless and then there's scum.

We wasn't far wrong about the fine, I would take away his house then he can pursuit his career more honestly.

A poster of this article up in every shop window saying do not give money to this scum, he's not homeless! should do the trick.
such a shame, so many homeless and then there's scum.
We wasn't far wrong about the fine, I would take away his house then he can pursuit his career more honestly.richiepooh

wirematt wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.

Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.

He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.

So it doesn't matter that something tragic may have happened in his life turning him this way or that the mental health system in this country may have failed him. He is on benefits and gets his rent paid so let's exterminate the guy. God help all the other people on benefits who live in rented accommodation as your all sponging, unsociable rats in the eyes of wirematt! I know many professional people who go home and drink a few bottles of wine every night so what do you class them as? So the guy sits outside a shop begging for a few quid, so do kids on November the 5th I suppose we better give them all Crasbos as well. There is no difference!

The difference is grumpy those professional people who go home and have a drink have been to work and not urinating in shop door ways and being a nuisance to society.

Haha! What is your idea of society? One where everyone is just like you? One where we can all sit outside a winebar without being reminded of poverty and mental illness? I've been approached by this bloke many times, the converstaion goes something like this.
Him: "spare some change please?"
Me: " sorry pal, I only carry 20 pound notes"
Him: " ok, sorry to bother you sir"
Me:"no worries pal"

Well done Grumpy, good work. Editor of this newspaper gets worse, why put a man like this on the front page with all his troubles.

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.[/p][/quote]Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.[/p][/quote]He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.[/p][/quote]So it doesn't matter that something tragic may have happened in his life turning him this way or that the mental health system in this country may have failed him. He is on benefits and gets his rent paid so let's exterminate the guy. God help all the other people on benefits who live in rented accommodation as your all sponging, unsociable rats in the eyes of wirematt! I know many professional people who go home and drink a few bottles of wine every night so what do you class them as? So the guy sits outside a shop begging for a few quid, so do kids on November the 5th I suppose we better give them all Crasbos as well. There is no difference![/p][/quote]The difference is grumpy those professional people who go home and have a drink have been to work and not urinating in shop door ways and being a nuisance to society.[/p][/quote]Haha! What is your idea of society? One where everyone is just like you? One where we can all sit outside a winebar without being reminded of poverty and mental illness? I've been approached by this bloke many times, the converstaion goes something like this.
Him: "spare some change please?"
Me: " sorry pal, I only carry 20 pound notes"
Him: " ok, sorry to bother you sir"
Me:"no worries pal"
Well done Grumpy, good work. Editor of this newspaper gets worse, why put a man like this on the front page with all his troubles.PageA

wirematt wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.

Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.

He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.

So it doesn't matter that something tragic may have happened in his life turning him this way or that the mental health system in this country may have failed him. He is on benefits and gets his rent paid so let's exterminate the guy. God help all the other people on benefits who live in rented accommodation as your all sponging, unsociable rats in the eyes of wirematt! I know many professional people who go home and drink a few bottles of wine every night so what do you class them as? So the guy sits outside a shop begging for a few quid, so do kids on November the 5th I suppose we better give them all Crasbos as well. There is no difference!

Hahaha..you are twisting what I am saying and bringing stuff up which has nothing to do with the story.If this thing wanted help he would seek it. Seems to me grumpy that you feel this thing does no wrong.

well said grumpy parent I could not of said it better myself,what makes me laugh is shop workers saying they feel victimised locking up, the place in question Sainburys as Stockton Heath is directly across road from police station so why not report it or are we going into realms of another problem we have ie no faith in the police knowing full well they will do nothing about it so we don't bother going to them any more ,and like you said there are a lot more people out there worse than him claiming disability driving round in cars and when they get in walking stick gets thrown in corner and these are claiming thousands and yes I know there are genuine people out there and yes there a lot of these people have ended up this way due to not looking after themselves obese etc etc ,to finalise I cannot believe that this has ended up on front page of the guardian what gripping headline are we due for next week?

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.[/p][/quote]Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.[/p][/quote]He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.[/p][/quote]So it doesn't matter that something tragic may have happened in his life turning him this way or that the mental health system in this country may have failed him. He is on benefits and gets his rent paid so let's exterminate the guy. God help all the other people on benefits who live in rented accommodation as your all sponging, unsociable rats in the eyes of wirematt! I know many professional people who go home and drink a few bottles of wine every night so what do you class them as? So the guy sits outside a shop begging for a few quid, so do kids on November the 5th I suppose we better give them all Crasbos as well. There is no difference![/p][/quote]Hahaha..you are twisting what I am saying and bringing stuff up which has nothing to do with the story.If this thing wanted help he would seek it. Seems to me grumpy that you feel this thing does no wrong.[/p][/quote]well said grumpy parent I could not of said it better myself,what makes me laugh is shop workers saying they feel victimised locking up, the place in question Sainburys as Stockton Heath is directly across road from police station so why not report it or are we going into realms of another problem we have ie no faith in the police knowing full well they will do nothing about it so we don't bother going to them any more ,and like you said there are a lot more people out there worse than him claiming disability driving round in cars and when they get in walking stick gets thrown in corner and these are claiming thousands and yes I know there are genuine people out there and yes there a lot of these people have ended up this way due to not looking after themselves obese etc etc ,to finalise I cannot believe that this has ended up on front page of the guardian what gripping headline are we due for next week?wiredforsound

wirematt wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.

Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.

He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.

So it doesn't matter that something tragic may have happened in his life turning him this way or that the mental health system in this country may have failed him. He is on benefits and gets his rent paid so let's exterminate the guy. God help all the other people on benefits who live in rented accommodation as your all sponging, unsociable rats in the eyes of wirematt! I know many professional people who go home and drink a few bottles of wine every night so what do you class them as? So the guy sits outside a shop begging for a few quid, so do kids on November the 5th I suppose we better give them all Crasbos as well. There is no difference!

Hahaha..you are twisting what I am saying and bringing stuff up which has nothing to do with the story.If this thing wanted help he would seek it. Seems to me grumpy that you feel this thing does no wrong.

We all go to work, we all go home, and we must all sit in front of the TV before bed because we are normal.
To call a human being, for crimes of this nature, a "thing" is just crude and unjustified. He may be on benefits and he may ask for a few quid outside a shop, but that doesn't warrant your verbal abuse. If this was Paul Gascoin, Alex Higgins or any other millionaire to slums person I suppose you would exterminate those as well. Many people can be successful in life and through no fault of their own, could lose everything. I just hope tragedy doesn't befall on you and you find yourself in a similar position.
WG seriously this is not front page news.

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.[/p][/quote]Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.[/p][/quote]He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.[/p][/quote]So it doesn't matter that something tragic may have happened in his life turning him this way or that the mental health system in this country may have failed him. He is on benefits and gets his rent paid so let's exterminate the guy. God help all the other people on benefits who live in rented accommodation as your all sponging, unsociable rats in the eyes of wirematt! I know many professional people who go home and drink a few bottles of wine every night so what do you class them as? So the guy sits outside a shop begging for a few quid, so do kids on November the 5th I suppose we better give them all Crasbos as well. There is no difference![/p][/quote]Hahaha..you are twisting what I am saying and bringing stuff up which has nothing to do with the story.If this thing wanted help he would seek it. Seems to me grumpy that you feel this thing does no wrong.[/p][/quote]We all go to work, we all go home, and we must all sit in front of the TV before bed because we are normal.
To call a human being, for crimes of this nature, a "thing" is just crude and unjustified. He may be on benefits and he may ask for a few quid outside a shop, but that doesn't warrant your verbal abuse. If this was Paul Gascoin, Alex Higgins or any other millionaire to slums person I suppose you would exterminate those as well. Many people can be successful in life and through no fault of their own, could lose everything. I just hope tragedy doesn't befall on you and you find yourself in a similar position.
WG seriously this is not front page news.GRUMPY PARENT

Cop shop still shut early in Stockton Heath? Love how people can only comment from their own perspective, Just because you wouldn't feel intimidated by him doesn't mean everyone wouldn't. I can imagine it being a very different experience for say an elderly lady trying to use the cash point on a dark evening. I would much prefer not to bothered by an idiot like this whether I was drawing cash or not. We (the taxpayers) already pay for absolutely everything he gets without handing over more from our wages after tax. He needs to get a job and earn the money to do what he likes rather than try and deceive others into feeling pity by pretending to be homeless. If he just sat quietly with a sign around his neck saying "Alcoholic needs more money for booze than benefits provide" how much do you think he'd get?

Cop shop still shut early in Stockton Heath? Love how people can only comment from their own perspective, Just because you wouldn't feel intimidated by him doesn't mean everyone wouldn't. I can imagine it being a very different experience for say an elderly lady trying to use the cash point on a dark evening. I would much prefer not to bothered by an idiot like this whether I was drawing cash or not. We (the taxpayers) already pay for absolutely everything he gets without handing over more from our wages after tax. He needs to get a job and earn the money to do what he likes rather than try and deceive others into feeling pity by pretending to be homeless. If he just sat quietly with a sign around his neck saying "Alcoholic needs more money for booze than benefits provide" how much do you think he'd get?local man

local man wrote:
Cop shop still shut early in Stockton Heath? Love how people can only comment from their own perspective, Just because you wouldn't feel intimidated by him doesn't mean everyone wouldn't. I can imagine it being a very different experience for say an elderly lady trying to use the cash point on a dark evening. I would much prefer not to bothered by an idiot like this whether I was drawing cash or not. We (the taxpayers) already pay for absolutely everything he gets without handing over more from our wages after tax. He needs to get a job and earn the money to do what he likes rather than try and deceive others into feeling pity by pretending to be homeless. If he just sat quietly with a sign around his neck saying &quot;Alcoholic needs more money for booze than benefits provide" how much do you think he'd get?

Well said.

[quote][p][bold]local man[/bold] wrote:
Cop shop still shut early in Stockton Heath? Love how people can only comment from their own perspective, Just because you wouldn't feel intimidated by him doesn't mean everyone wouldn't. I can imagine it being a very different experience for say an elderly lady trying to use the cash point on a dark evening. I would much prefer not to bothered by an idiot like this whether I was drawing cash or not. We (the taxpayers) already pay for absolutely everything he gets without handing over more from our wages after tax. He needs to get a job and earn the money to do what he likes rather than try and deceive others into feeling pity by pretending to be homeless. If he just sat quietly with a sign around his neck saying "Alcoholic needs more money for booze than benefits provide" how much do you think he'd get?[/p][/quote]Well said.wirematt

local man wrote:
Cop shop still shut early in Stockton Heath? Love how people can only comment from their own perspective, Just because you wouldn't feel intimidated by him doesn't mean everyone wouldn't. I can imagine it being a very different experience for say an elderly lady trying to use the cash point on a dark evening. I would much prefer not to bothered by an idiot like this whether I was drawing cash or not. We (the taxpayers) already pay for absolutely everything he gets without handing over more from our wages after tax. He needs to get a job and earn the money to do what he likes rather than try and deceive others into feeling pity by pretending to be homeless. If he just sat quietly with a sign around his neck saying &quot;Alcoholic needs more money for booze than benefits provide" how much do you think he'd get?

I've never felt intimidated by him, nor has any of the people I work with who pass him regularly..nor have we ever witnessed him being anything other than polite to people of all ages. In fact I regularly walk past him just to be called 'sir'... which I like.

Some people just like living in their bubble oblivious to everyone else. This man isnt a criminal mastermind, he's in a bad way. Sticking him on the front cover of the local paper and letting you lot call him scumbag reflects badly on all of us.

[quote][p][bold]local man[/bold] wrote:
Cop shop still shut early in Stockton Heath? Love how people can only comment from their own perspective, Just because you wouldn't feel intimidated by him doesn't mean everyone wouldn't. I can imagine it being a very different experience for say an elderly lady trying to use the cash point on a dark evening. I would much prefer not to bothered by an idiot like this whether I was drawing cash or not. We (the taxpayers) already pay for absolutely everything he gets without handing over more from our wages after tax. He needs to get a job and earn the money to do what he likes rather than try and deceive others into feeling pity by pretending to be homeless. If he just sat quietly with a sign around his neck saying "Alcoholic needs more money for booze than benefits provide" how much do you think he'd get?[/p][/quote]I've never felt intimidated by him, nor has any of the people I work with who pass him regularly..nor have we ever witnessed him being anything other than polite to people of all ages. In fact I regularly walk past him just to be called 'sir'... which I like.
Some people just like living in their bubble oblivious to everyone else. This man isnt a criminal mastermind, he's in a bad way. Sticking him on the front cover of the local paper and letting you lot call him scumbag reflects badly on all of us.PageA

local man wrote:
Cop shop still shut early in Stockton Heath? Love how people can only comment from their own perspective, Just because you wouldn't feel intimidated by him doesn't mean everyone wouldn't. I can imagine it being a very different experience for say an elderly lady trying to use the cash point on a dark evening. I would much prefer not to bothered by an idiot like this whether I was drawing cash or not. We (the taxpayers) already pay for absolutely everything he gets without handing over more from our wages after tax. He needs to get a job and earn the money to do what he likes rather than try and deceive others into feeling pity by pretending to be homeless. If he just sat quietly with a sign around his neck saying &quot;Alcoholic needs more money for booze than benefits provide" how much do you think he'd get?

I've never felt intimidated by him, nor has any of the people I work with who pass him regularly..nor have we ever witnessed him being anything other than polite to people of all ages. In fact I regularly walk past him just to be called 'sir'... which I like.

Some people just like living in their bubble oblivious to everyone else. This man isnt a criminal mastermind, he's in a bad way. Sticking him on the front cover of the local paper and letting you lot call him scumbag reflects badly on all of us.

Well said

[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]local man[/bold] wrote:
Cop shop still shut early in Stockton Heath? Love how people can only comment from their own perspective, Just because you wouldn't feel intimidated by him doesn't mean everyone wouldn't. I can imagine it being a very different experience for say an elderly lady trying to use the cash point on a dark evening. I would much prefer not to bothered by an idiot like this whether I was drawing cash or not. We (the taxpayers) already pay for absolutely everything he gets without handing over more from our wages after tax. He needs to get a job and earn the money to do what he likes rather than try and deceive others into feeling pity by pretending to be homeless. If he just sat quietly with a sign around his neck saying "Alcoholic needs more money for booze than benefits provide" how much do you think he'd get?[/p][/quote]I've never felt intimidated by him, nor has any of the people I work with who pass him regularly..nor have we ever witnessed him being anything other than polite to people of all ages. In fact I regularly walk past him just to be called 'sir'... which I like.
Some people just like living in their bubble oblivious to everyone else. This man isnt a criminal mastermind, he's in a bad way. Sticking him on the front cover of the local paper and letting you lot call him scumbag reflects badly on all of us.[/p][/quote]Well saidGRUMPY PARENT

richiepooh wrote:
Our comments are based on the perception of him as portrayed in this article. with no personal experience of this man, he remains scum to me until proven otherwise.

Well said richiepooch.Usually if the offender does have issues the guardian usually state it in the story.

[quote][p][bold]richiepooh[/bold] wrote:
Our comments are based on the perception of him as portrayed in this article. with no personal experience of this man, he remains scum to me until proven otherwise.[/p][/quote]Well said richiepooch.Usually if the offender does have issues the guardian usually state it in the story.wirematt

richiepooh wrote:
Our comments are based on the perception of him as portrayed in this article. with no personal experience of this man, he remains scum to me until proven otherwise.

Yet another person with a perception that you are guilty until proven innocent. I am just glad we have a justice system that is the opposite of your thoughts. Would you prefer this chap to fill his trolly with £200 worth of shopping and walk out of Asda as has happened twice in as many weeks. I don't see you commenting on them people and having them "put down" as they are a menace to society. The same could be said of the dancing man who also drinks everyday and dances at the side of the road. He is a menace to society, in your eyes, to me he is just someone I smile at and happy for him to live his life as he pleases. But in the back of my mind I remember that, before the tragedy that was bestowed upon him happened, he fought for this country in the forces. Something I have not done and many other people either, who may not realise what problems with mental illness can do to a person. You know nothing of this man's background so don't be so quick to write him off with a flippant comment.You state you have no experience of the man so he is scum. I have no experience of you so to me you are scum.
Still Grumpy

[quote][p][bold]richiepooh[/bold] wrote:
Our comments are based on the perception of him as portrayed in this article. with no personal experience of this man, he remains scum to me until proven otherwise.[/p][/quote]Yet another person with a perception that you are guilty until proven innocent. I am just glad we have a justice system that is the opposite of your thoughts. Would you prefer this chap to fill his trolly with £200 worth of shopping and walk out of Asda as has happened twice in as many weeks. I don't see you commenting on them people and having them "put down" as they are a menace to society. The same could be said of the dancing man who also drinks everyday and dances at the side of the road. He is a menace to society, in your eyes, to me he is just someone I smile at and happy for him to live his life as he pleases. But in the back of my mind I remember that, before the tragedy that was bestowed upon him happened, he fought for this country in the forces. Something I have not done and many other people either, who may not realise what problems with mental illness can do to a person. You know nothing of this man's background so don't be so quick to write him off with a flippant comment.You state you have no experience of the man so he is scum. I have no experience of you so to me you are scum.
Still GrumpyGRUMPY PARENT

Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
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I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
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I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.PageA

Staff and residents reported him spitting on the floor......, urinating in doors......, witnesses say he is abusive...., turned up at court smelling of alcohol. Unless all these people are wrong or the gaurdian is mistaken then the article proves to me he is a menace to society.

I wonder weather grumpy parent would be as sympathetic if this person was situated outside his house being abusive every day, spitting on the floor, urinating on his doorstep.

Staff and residents reported him spitting on the floor......, urinating in doors......, witnesses say he is abusive...., turned up at court smelling of alcohol. Unless all these people are wrong or the gaurdian is mistaken then the article proves to me he is a menace to society.
I wonder weather grumpy parent would be as sympathetic if this person was situated outside his house being abusive every day, spitting on the floor, urinating on his doorstep.Squashking

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

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I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
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I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!GRUMPY PARENT

Squashking wrote:
Staff and residents reported him spitting on the floor......, urinating in doors......, witnesses say he is abusive...., turned up at court smelling of alcohol. Unless all these people are wrong or the gaurdian is mistaken then the article proves to me he is a menace to society.

I wonder weather grumpy parent would be as sympathetic if this person was situated outside his house being abusive every day, spitting on the floor, urinating on his doorstep.

SW resident no problems here mate.

[quote][p][bold]Squashking[/bold] wrote:
Staff and residents reported him spitting on the floor......, urinating in doors......, witnesses say he is abusive...., turned up at court smelling of alcohol. Unless all these people are wrong or the gaurdian is mistaken then the article proves to me he is a menace to society.
I wonder weather grumpy parent would be as sympathetic if this person was situated outside his house being abusive every day, spitting on the floor, urinating on his doorstep.[/p][/quote]SW resident no problems here mate.GRUMPY PARENT

Squashking wrote:
Staff and residents reported him spitting on the floor......, urinating in doors......, witnesses say he is abusive...., turned up at court smelling of alcohol. Unless all these people are wrong or the gaurdian is mistaken then the article proves to me he is a menace to society.

I wonder weather grumpy parent would be as sympathetic if this person was situated outside his house being abusive every day, spitting on the floor, urinating on his doorstep.

Well said squashking that pretty much draws a line under it all.

[quote][p][bold]Squashking[/bold] wrote:
Staff and residents reported him spitting on the floor......, urinating in doors......, witnesses say he is abusive...., turned up at court smelling of alcohol. Unless all these people are wrong or the gaurdian is mistaken then the article proves to me he is a menace to society.
I wonder weather grumpy parent would be as sympathetic if this person was situated outside his house being abusive every day, spitting on the floor, urinating on his doorstep.[/p][/quote]Well said squashking that pretty much draws a line under it all.wirematt

Squashking wrote:
Staff and residents reported him spitting on the floor......, urinating in doors......, witnesses say he is abusive...., turned up at court smelling of alcohol. Unless all these people are wrong or the gaurdian is mistaken then the article proves to me he is a menace to society.

I wonder weather grumpy parent would be as sympathetic if this person was situated outside his house being abusive every day, spitting on the floor, urinating on his doorstep.

Well said squashking that pretty much draws a line under it all.

What's that?! an alcoholic turning up at court smelling of alcohol?...and that surprises you? An alcoholic..smelling of alcohol?..facepalm
ugly people right here..ugly

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Squashking[/bold] wrote:
Staff and residents reported him spitting on the floor......, urinating in doors......, witnesses say he is abusive...., turned up at court smelling of alcohol. Unless all these people are wrong or the gaurdian is mistaken then the article proves to me he is a menace to society.
I wonder weather grumpy parent would be as sympathetic if this person was situated outside his house being abusive every day, spitting on the floor, urinating on his doorstep.[/p][/quote]Well said squashking that pretty much draws a line under it all.[/p][/quote]What's that?! an alcoholic turning up at court smelling of alcohol?...and that surprises you? An alcoholic..smelling of alcohol?..facepalm
ugly people right here..uglyPageA

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

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I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.wirematt

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaperPageA

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.wirematt

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

Haha! You're worse than I thought. Need to give the old moral compass a bit of a tap there good buddy.

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]Haha! You're worse than I thought. Need to give the old moral compass a bit of a tap there good buddy.PageA

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

Haha! You're worse than I thought. Need to give the old moral compass a bit of a tap there good buddy.

You obviously condone this mans actions and feel he is doing no wrong.If thats the case you are no better than him.

[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
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I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]Haha! You're worse than I thought. Need to give the old moral compass a bit of a tap there good buddy.[/p][/quote]You obviously condone this mans actions and feel he is doing no wrong.If thats the case you are no better than him.wirematt

This man fed my mother in law the homeless story when she gave him some change a few weeks ago... she felt so sorry for him that she went back and gave him a note. She's past retirement age yet still works a cleaning job to enable her to buy the things she wants. Not only did she hand over some of her hard earned cash but she went home worrying about the guy who she thought was homeless. Those defending him should maybe think about the people who he didn't necessarily treat with respect.

This man fed my mother in law the homeless story when she gave him some change a few weeks ago... she felt so sorry for him that she went back and gave him a note. She's past retirement age yet still works a cleaning job to enable her to buy the things she wants. Not only did she hand over some of her hard earned cash but she went home worrying about the guy who she thought was homeless. Those defending him should maybe think about the people who he didn't necessarily treat with respect.Finallymrs

Finallymrs wrote:
This man fed my mother in law the homeless story when she gave him some change a few weeks ago... she felt so sorry for him that she went back and gave him a note. She's past retirement age yet still works a cleaning job to enable her to buy the things she wants. Not only did she hand over some of her hard earned cash but she went home worrying about the guy who she thought was homeless. Those defending him should maybe think about the people who he didn't necessarily treat with respect.

Your mother in law sounds like a good person. There's no doubt this is a human being in serious decline and his story is not going to end well. It was a good thing that she did, she stopped to help in a way that she thought best whereas many on here have stopped to point and shout insults.
Addiction to alcohol changes the brain, giving people new priorities connected with obtaining and drinking alcohol. This is a man with no ability to control his impulses. He should be helped not insulted.

[quote][p][bold]Finallymrs[/bold] wrote:
This man fed my mother in law the homeless story when she gave him some change a few weeks ago... she felt so sorry for him that she went back and gave him a note. She's past retirement age yet still works a cleaning job to enable her to buy the things she wants. Not only did she hand over some of her hard earned cash but she went home worrying about the guy who she thought was homeless. Those defending him should maybe think about the people who he didn't necessarily treat with respect.[/p][/quote]Your mother in law sounds like a good person. There's no doubt this is a human being in serious decline and his story is not going to end well. It was a good thing that she did, she stopped to help in a way that she thought best whereas many on here have stopped to point and shout insults.
Addiction to alcohol changes the brain, giving people new priorities connected with obtaining and drinking alcohol. This is a man with no ability to control his impulses. He should be helped not insulted.PageA

wirematt wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.

Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.

He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.

He is a human being and needs to be treated as such, simples!

Perhaps someone could could refer him to an alcoholic rehabilitation centre rather than imposing a fine he clearly can't pay or threatening to send him to prison for up to 5 years.

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.[/p][/quote]Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.[/p][/quote]He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.[/p][/quote]He is a human being and needs to be treated as such, simples!
Perhaps someone could could refer him to an alcoholic rehabilitation centre rather than imposing a fine he clearly can't pay or threatening to send him to prison for up to 5 years.SAC_in_Warrington

local man wrote:
Cop shop still shut early in Stockton Heath? Love how people can only comment from their own perspective, Just because you wouldn't feel intimidated by him doesn't mean everyone wouldn't. I can imagine it being a very different experience for say an elderly lady trying to use the cash point on a dark evening. I would much prefer not to bothered by an idiot like this whether I was drawing cash or not. We (the taxpayers) already pay for absolutely everything he gets without handing over more from our wages after tax. He needs to get a job and earn the money to do what he likes rather than try and deceive others into feeling pity by pretending to be homeless. If he just sat quietly with a sign around his neck saying &quot;Alcoholic needs more money for booze than benefits provide" how much do you think he'd get?

I've never felt intimidated by him, nor has any of the people I work with who pass him regularly..nor have we ever witnessed him being anything other than polite to people of all ages. In fact I regularly walk past him just to be called 'sir'... which I like.

Some people just like living in their bubble oblivious to everyone else. This man isnt a criminal mastermind, he's in a bad way. Sticking him on the front cover of the local paper and letting you lot call him scumbag reflects badly on all of us.

Well said, I have also had some contact with him and he should be encouraged to seek help and yet he has done so and it has been restricted to housing and living expenses. There are a small number of people assisting him on a voluntary basis however the statutory institutions seem only to condemn him.

[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]local man[/bold] wrote:
Cop shop still shut early in Stockton Heath? Love how people can only comment from their own perspective, Just because you wouldn't feel intimidated by him doesn't mean everyone wouldn't. I can imagine it being a very different experience for say an elderly lady trying to use the cash point on a dark evening. I would much prefer not to bothered by an idiot like this whether I was drawing cash or not. We (the taxpayers) already pay for absolutely everything he gets without handing over more from our wages after tax. He needs to get a job and earn the money to do what he likes rather than try and deceive others into feeling pity by pretending to be homeless. If he just sat quietly with a sign around his neck saying "Alcoholic needs more money for booze than benefits provide" how much do you think he'd get?[/p][/quote]I've never felt intimidated by him, nor has any of the people I work with who pass him regularly..nor have we ever witnessed him being anything other than polite to people of all ages. In fact I regularly walk past him just to be called 'sir'... which I like.
Some people just like living in their bubble oblivious to everyone else. This man isnt a criminal mastermind, he's in a bad way. Sticking him on the front cover of the local paper and letting you lot call him scumbag reflects badly on all of us.[/p][/quote]Well said, I have also had some contact with him and he should be encouraged to seek help and yet he has done so and it has been restricted to housing and living expenses. There are a small number of people assisting him on a voluntary basis however the statutory institutions seem only to condemn him.SAC_in_Warrington

richiepooh wrote:
Our comments are based on the perception of him as portrayed in this article. with no personal experience of this man, he remains scum to me until proven otherwise.

I suggest that you must be judged in the same way then! That means, according to your hypothesis that you are scum until proved otherwise. ( An Interesting and challenging suggestion and thought intended).

[quote][p][bold]richiepooh[/bold] wrote:
Our comments are based on the perception of him as portrayed in this article. with no personal experience of this man, he remains scum to me until proven otherwise.[/p][/quote]I suggest that you must be judged in the same way then! That means, according to your hypothesis that you are scum until proved otherwise. ( An Interesting and challenging suggestion and thought intended).SAC_in_Warrington

Finallymrs wrote:
This man fed my mother in law the homeless story when she gave him some change a few weeks ago... she felt so sorry for him that she went back and gave him a note. She's past retirement age yet still works a cleaning job to enable her to buy the things she wants. Not only did she hand over some of her hard earned cash but she went home worrying about the guy who she thought was homeless. Those defending him should maybe think about the people who he didn't necessarily treat with respect.

She gave of her own free will presumably motivated by hope, love and charity. She may even have her own mental health issues that need checking out. Perhaps you need to take action and address her possible nieveity and associated vulnerability.

[quote][p][bold]Finallymrs[/bold] wrote:
This man fed my mother in law the homeless story when she gave him some change a few weeks ago... she felt so sorry for him that she went back and gave him a note. She's past retirement age yet still works a cleaning job to enable her to buy the things she wants. Not only did she hand over some of her hard earned cash but she went home worrying about the guy who she thought was homeless. Those defending him should maybe think about the people who he didn't necessarily treat with respect.[/p][/quote]She gave of her own free will presumably motivated by hope, love and charity. She may even have her own mental health issues that need checking out. Perhaps you need to take action and address her possible nieveity and associated vulnerability.SAC_in_Warrington

wirematt wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.

Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.

He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.

He is a human being and needs to be treated as such, simples!

Perhaps someone could could refer him to an alcoholic rehabilitation centre rather than imposing a fine he clearly can't pay or threatening to send him to prison for up to 5 years.

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
What an absolute scumbag.people like him need putting down.[/p][/quote]Not defending this guy but I think that's a bit harsh, Maybe he just needs help with his alcohol addiction and help with the reason behind his addiction. You or I have no idea what has happened to this guy in his life. Is this any worse than being hounded while out shopping by sales people trying to get you to sign up with their company etc? I ignore them as I would ignore him, simples.[/p][/quote]He's a pest, simples.He lives off benefits gets a house paid for him I'd imagine and gets drunk everyday.Then goes begging and pestering people for money . He's no better than a rat.Harsh maybe but its the truth.[/p][/quote]He is a human being and needs to be treated as such, simples!
Perhaps someone could could refer him to an alcoholic rehabilitation centre rather than imposing a fine he clearly can't pay or threatening to send him to prison for up to 5 years.SAC_in_Warrington

I work in Stockton Heath and so have known this man for several years.
I have seen over a period of time him requesting money from vulnerable people.
On one occasion, a gentleman gave Stephen a case of bottled water, a case of fruit juice, and a case of cereal bars.
Stephen disappeared with the parcel and returned an hour later with a large Bargain Booze carrier very full, exchange?

I work in Stockton Heath and so have known this man for several years.
I have seen over a period of time him requesting money from vulnerable people.
On one occasion, a gentleman gave Stephen a case of bottled water, a case of fruit juice, and a case of cereal bars.
Stephen disappeared with the parcel and returned an hour later with a large Bargain Booze carrier very full, exchange?Alice2706

Finallymrs wrote:
This man fed my mother in law the homeless story when she gave him some change a few weeks ago... she felt so sorry for him that she went back and gave him a note. She's past retirement age yet still works a cleaning job to enable her to buy the things she wants. Not only did she hand over some of her hard earned cash but she went home worrying about the guy who she thought was homeless. Those defending him should maybe think about the people who he didn't necessarily treat with respect.

Your mother in law sounds like a good person. There's no doubt this is a human being in serious decline and his story is not going to end well. It was a good thing that she did, she stopped to help in a way that she thought best whereas many on here have stopped to point and shout insults.
Addiction to alcohol changes the brain, giving people new priorities connected with obtaining and drinking alcohol. This is a man with no ability to control his impulses. He should be helped not insulted.

Great comment PageA: People should realize that his behavior is part of his condition.

[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Finallymrs[/bold] wrote:
This man fed my mother in law the homeless story when she gave him some change a few weeks ago... she felt so sorry for him that she went back and gave him a note. She's past retirement age yet still works a cleaning job to enable her to buy the things she wants. Not only did she hand over some of her hard earned cash but she went home worrying about the guy who she thought was homeless. Those defending him should maybe think about the people who he didn't necessarily treat with respect.[/p][/quote]Your mother in law sounds like a good person. There's no doubt this is a human being in serious decline and his story is not going to end well. It was a good thing that she did, she stopped to help in a way that she thought best whereas many on here have stopped to point and shout insults.
Addiction to alcohol changes the brain, giving people new priorities connected with obtaining and drinking alcohol. This is a man with no ability to control his impulses. He should be helped not insulted.[/p][/quote]Great comment PageA: People should realize that his behavior is part of his condition.muckerman

Alice2706 wrote:
I work in Stockton Heath and so have known this man for several years.
I have seen over a period of time him requesting money from vulnerable people.
On one occasion, a gentleman gave Stephen a case of bottled water, a case of fruit juice, and a case of cereal bars.
Stephen disappeared with the parcel and returned an hour later with a large Bargain Booze carrier very full, exchange?

Alice2706...he's got a disease..he's a mess...why are you expecting him to behave like a perfectly rational person with no issues. It says in the opening sentence he's an alcoholic..dont be disappointed by his behaviour or judge him by your own standards..he can't stop himself. If he was blind..he'd bump into things from time to time..if he was hard of hearing he'd struggle to hear what you were saying..he's got what for most sufferers is an incurable illness that dominates his existence and will kill him prematurely if he doesn't get help. He knows it, I know it...he knows I know it..why cant you get it? This is no more than shop and bar owners getting together at their meetings to complain about the lowlife putting the customers off their pescespada alla siciliana. Well shame on them and shame on you for sticking the boot in. This Newspaper should be running a campaign to get help for those who fall through the cracks in society, not holding them up to be insulted and ridiculed. I'm a little ashamed of all of you.

[quote][p][bold]Alice2706[/bold] wrote:
I work in Stockton Heath and so have known this man for several years.
I have seen over a period of time him requesting money from vulnerable people.
On one occasion, a gentleman gave Stephen a case of bottled water, a case of fruit juice, and a case of cereal bars.
Stephen disappeared with the parcel and returned an hour later with a large Bargain Booze carrier very full, exchange?[/p][/quote]Alice2706...he's got a disease..he's a mess...why are you expecting him to behave like a perfectly rational person with no issues. It says in the opening sentence he's an alcoholic..dont be disappointed by his behaviour or judge him by your own standards..he can't stop himself. If he was blind..he'd bump into things from time to time..if he was hard of hearing he'd struggle to hear what you were saying..he's got what for most sufferers is an incurable illness that dominates his existence and will kill him prematurely if he doesn't get help. He knows it, I know it...he knows I know it..why cant you get it? This is no more than shop and bar owners getting together at their meetings to complain about the lowlife putting the customers off their pescespada alla siciliana. Well shame on them and shame on you for sticking the boot in. This Newspaper should be running a campaign to get help for those who fall through the cracks in society, not holding them up to be insulted and ridiculed. I'm a little ashamed of all of you.PageA

Alice2706 wrote:
I work in Stockton Heath and so have known this man for several years.
I have seen over a period of time him requesting money from vulnerable people.
On one occasion, a gentleman gave Stephen a case of bottled water, a case of fruit juice, and a case of cereal bars.
Stephen disappeared with the parcel and returned an hour later with a large Bargain Booze carrier very full, exchange?

Alice2706...he's got a disease..he's a mess...why are you expecting him to behave like a perfectly rational person with no issues. It says in the opening sentence he's an alcoholic..dont be disappointed by his behaviour or judge him by your own standards..he can't stop himself. If he was blind..he'd bump into things from time to time..if he was hard of hearing he'd struggle to hear what you were saying..he's got what for most sufferers is an incurable illness that dominates his existence and will kill him prematurely if he doesn't get help. He knows it, I know it...he knows I know it..why cant you get it? This is no more than shop and bar owners getting together at their meetings to complain about the lowlife putting the customers off their pescespada alla siciliana. Well shame on them and shame on you for sticking the boot in. This Newspaper should be running a campaign to get help for those who fall through the cracks in society, not holding them up to be insulted and ridiculed. I'm a little ashamed of all of you.

Do you no this bloke personally? For all you no he may have be an alcoholic through no fault of his own.Which probably is the case.The guardian haven't stated that he has other issues and due to them is an alcoholic.Im sure people would think differently of him if that was the case.

[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Alice2706[/bold] wrote:
I work in Stockton Heath and so have known this man for several years.
I have seen over a period of time him requesting money from vulnerable people.
On one occasion, a gentleman gave Stephen a case of bottled water, a case of fruit juice, and a case of cereal bars.
Stephen disappeared with the parcel and returned an hour later with a large Bargain Booze carrier very full, exchange?[/p][/quote]Alice2706...he's got a disease..he's a mess...why are you expecting him to behave like a perfectly rational person with no issues. It says in the opening sentence he's an alcoholic..dont be disappointed by his behaviour or judge him by your own standards..he can't stop himself. If he was blind..he'd bump into things from time to time..if he was hard of hearing he'd struggle to hear what you were saying..he's got what for most sufferers is an incurable illness that dominates his existence and will kill him prematurely if he doesn't get help. He knows it, I know it...he knows I know it..why cant you get it? This is no more than shop and bar owners getting together at their meetings to complain about the lowlife putting the customers off their pescespada alla siciliana. Well shame on them and shame on you for sticking the boot in. This Newspaper should be running a campaign to get help for those who fall through the cracks in society, not holding them up to be insulted and ridiculed. I'm a little ashamed of all of you.[/p][/quote]Do you no this bloke personally? For all you no he may have be an alcoholic through no fault of his own.Which probably is the case.The guardian haven't stated that he has other issues and due to them is an alcoholic.Im sure people would think differently of him if that was the case.wirematt

Alice2706 wrote:
I work in Stockton Heath and so have known this man for several years.
I have seen over a period of time him requesting money from vulnerable people.
On one occasion, a gentleman gave Stephen a case of bottled water, a case of fruit juice, and a case of cereal bars.
Stephen disappeared with the parcel and returned an hour later with a large Bargain Booze carrier very full, exchange?

Alice2706...he's got a disease..he's a mess...why are you expecting him to behave like a perfectly rational person with no issues. It says in the opening sentence he's an alcoholic..dont be disappointed by his behaviour or judge him by your own standards..he can't stop himself. If he was blind..he'd bump into things from time to time..if he was hard of hearing he'd struggle to hear what you were saying..he's got what for most sufferers is an incurable illness that dominates his existence and will kill him prematurely if he doesn't get help. He knows it, I know it...he knows I know it..why cant you get it? This is no more than shop and bar owners getting together at their meetings to complain about the lowlife putting the customers off their pescespada alla siciliana. Well shame on them and shame on you for sticking the boot in. This Newspaper should be running a campaign to get help for those who fall through the cracks in society, not holding them up to be insulted and ridiculed. I'm a little ashamed of all of you.

Do you no this bloke personally? For all you no he may have be an alcoholic through no fault of his own.Which probably is the case.The guardian haven't stated that he has other issues and due to them is an alcoholic.Im sure people would think differently of him if that was the case.

Believe it or not Wirematt it is actually possible to show empathy and compassion to another person who isn't yourself or member of your immediate family. I can't bring myself to comment on the rest of your post, it's ridiculous.

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Alice2706[/bold] wrote:
I work in Stockton Heath and so have known this man for several years.
I have seen over a period of time him requesting money from vulnerable people.
On one occasion, a gentleman gave Stephen a case of bottled water, a case of fruit juice, and a case of cereal bars.
Stephen disappeared with the parcel and returned an hour later with a large Bargain Booze carrier very full, exchange?[/p][/quote]Alice2706...he's got a disease..he's a mess...why are you expecting him to behave like a perfectly rational person with no issues. It says in the opening sentence he's an alcoholic..dont be disappointed by his behaviour or judge him by your own standards..he can't stop himself. If he was blind..he'd bump into things from time to time..if he was hard of hearing he'd struggle to hear what you were saying..he's got what for most sufferers is an incurable illness that dominates his existence and will kill him prematurely if he doesn't get help. He knows it, I know it...he knows I know it..why cant you get it? This is no more than shop and bar owners getting together at their meetings to complain about the lowlife putting the customers off their pescespada alla siciliana. Well shame on them and shame on you for sticking the boot in. This Newspaper should be running a campaign to get help for those who fall through the cracks in society, not holding them up to be insulted and ridiculed. I'm a little ashamed of all of you.[/p][/quote]Do you no this bloke personally? For all you no he may have be an alcoholic through no fault of his own.Which probably is the case.The guardian haven't stated that he has other issues and due to them is an alcoholic.Im sure people would think differently of him if that was the case.[/p][/quote]Believe it or not Wirematt it is actually possible to show empathy and compassion to another person who isn't yourself or member of your immediate family. I can't bring myself to comment on the rest of your post, it's ridiculous.PageA

arthur thomas wrote:
I came across this beggar once in Stockton Heath, I asked him if he could change a 50 pound note

'Just for fun he says..get a job..(De ner ner, de ner ner, de ner ner) that's just the way it is...'
You must be very proud. I hope you remember what a funny little t*** you were as you draw your last breath on this earth

[quote][p][bold]arthur thomas[/bold] wrote:
I came across this beggar once in Stockton Heath, I asked him if he could change a 50 pound note[/p][/quote]'Just for fun he says..get a job..(De ner ner, de ner ner, de ner ner) that's just the way it is...'
You must be very proud. I hope you remember what a funny little t*** you were as you draw your last breath on this earthPageA

arthur thomas wrote:
I came across this beggar once in Stockton Heath, I asked him if he could change a 50 pound note

'Just for fun he says..get a job..(De ner ner, de ner ner, de ner ner) that's just the way it is...'
You must be very proud. I hope you remember what a funny little t*** you were as you draw your last breath on this earth

Problem is in Stockton Heath beggar probably could change a £50.
Over to you Bruce Hornsby...

[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]arthur thomas[/bold] wrote:
I came across this beggar once in Stockton Heath, I asked him if he could change a 50 pound note[/p][/quote]'Just for fun he says..get a job..(De ner ner, de ner ner, de ner ner) that's just the way it is...'
You must be very proud. I hope you remember what a funny little t*** you were as you draw your last breath on this earth[/p][/quote]Problem is in Stockton Heath beggar probably could change a £50.
Over to you Bruce Hornsby...local man

arthur thomas wrote:
I came across this beggar once in Stockton Heath, I asked him if he could change a 50 pound note

'Just for fun he says..get a job..(De ner ner, de ner ner, de ner ner) that's just the way it is...'
You must be very proud. I hope you remember what a funny little t*** you were as you draw your last breath on this earth

Problem is in Stockton Heath beggar probably could change a £50.
Over to you Bruce Hornsby...

If you think begging is so lucrative why don't you give it a go smart a**e?

See how long you survive. : )

[quote][p][bold]local man[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]arthur thomas[/bold] wrote:
I came across this beggar once in Stockton Heath, I asked him if he could change a 50 pound note[/p][/quote]'Just for fun he says..get a job..(De ner ner, de ner ner, de ner ner) that's just the way it is...'
You must be very proud. I hope you remember what a funny little t*** you were as you draw your last breath on this earth[/p][/quote]Problem is in Stockton Heath beggar probably could change a £50.
Over to you Bruce Hornsby...[/p][/quote]If you think begging is so lucrative why don't you give it a go smart a**e?
See how long you survive. : )muckerman

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

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I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

"Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?

Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]"Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?
Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".GRUMPY PARENT

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

&quot;Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?

Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".

It is a pleasure to be in agreement with you on this issue.

[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]"Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?
Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".[/p][/quote]It is a pleasure to be in agreement with you on this issue.SAC_in_Warrington

The man is a pest. He does what he does because we accept it all too easily and put it down to his addction. He needs to take some responsibility for his own life. There are services to help him control his addiction, he is provided with a home, he can get help with benefits and help to get training and get a job. We are doing our bit for him and now he needs to do his. If he doesn't want to, then he doesn't deserve our sympathy and sad as it is, I wouldn't want him anywhere near me or mine. This is the sort of person that becomes so desperate in the end that he ends up mugging some 80 year old woman causing her death in the process because bless him, he's an alcoholic and it's not his fault. Glad that he has been removed from Stockton Heath and any cash machines. Parasite!

The man is a pest. He does what he does because we accept it all too easily and put it down to his addction. He needs to take some responsibility for his own life. There are services to help him control his addiction, he is provided with a home, he can get help with benefits and help to get training and get a job. We are doing our bit for him and now he needs to do his. If he doesn't want to, then he doesn't deserve our sympathy and sad as it is, I wouldn't want him anywhere near me or mine. This is the sort of person that becomes so desperate in the end that he ends up mugging some 80 year old woman causing her death in the process because bless him, he's an alcoholic and it's not his fault. Glad that he has been removed from Stockton Heath and any cash machines. Parasite!voice of (some) of the people

voice of (some) of the people wrote:
The man is a pest. He does what he does because we accept it all too easily and put it down to his addction. He needs to take some responsibility for his own life. There are services to help him control his addiction, he is provided with a home, he can get help with benefits and help to get training and get a job. We are doing our bit for him and now he needs to do his. If he doesn't want to, then he doesn't deserve our sympathy and sad as it is, I wouldn't want him anywhere near me or mine. This is the sort of person that becomes so desperate in the end that he ends up mugging some 80 year old woman causing her death in the process because bless him, he's an alcoholic and it's not his fault. Glad that he has been removed from Stockton Heath and any cash machines. Parasite!

You might get run over by a bus so should we ban those from Stockton heath as well. All dogs bite so should that also be removed from Stockton Heath as well. etc. etc. ad infinitum. Now that's a thought!

[quote][p][bold]voice of (some) of the people[/bold] wrote:
The man is a pest. He does what he does because we accept it all too easily and put it down to his addction. He needs to take some responsibility for his own life. There are services to help him control his addiction, he is provided with a home, he can get help with benefits and help to get training and get a job. We are doing our bit for him and now he needs to do his. If he doesn't want to, then he doesn't deserve our sympathy and sad as it is, I wouldn't want him anywhere near me or mine. This is the sort of person that becomes so desperate in the end that he ends up mugging some 80 year old woman causing her death in the process because bless him, he's an alcoholic and it's not his fault. Glad that he has been removed from Stockton Heath and any cash machines. Parasite![/p][/quote]You might get run over by a bus so should we ban those from Stockton heath as well. All dogs bite so should that also be removed from Stockton Heath as well. etc. etc. ad infinitum. Now that's a thought!SAC_in_Warrington

voice of (some) of the people wrote: The man is a pest. He does what he does because we accept it all too easily and put it down to his addction. He needs to take some responsibility for his own life. There are services to help him control his addiction, he is provided with a home, he can get help with benefits and help to get training and get a job. We are doing our bit for him and now he needs to do his. If he doesn't want to, then he doesn't deserve our sympathy and sad as it is, I wouldn't want him anywhere near me or mine. This is the sort of person that becomes so desperate in the end that he ends up mugging some 80 year old woman causing her death in the process because bless him, he's an alcoholic and it's not his fault. Glad that he has been removed from Stockton Heath and any cash machines. Parasite!

You might get run over by a bus so should we ban those from Stockton heath as well. All dogs bite so should that also be removed from Stockton Heath as well. etc. etc. ad infinitum. Now that's a thought!

If the bus or dog is out of control as this man is then yes, ban them too!

Oh and by the way, if you're going to give an analogy, then make sure it really is one.

[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]voice of (some) of the people[/bold] wrote: The man is a pest. He does what he does because we accept it all too easily and put it down to his addction. He needs to take some responsibility for his own life. There are services to help him control his addiction, he is provided with a home, he can get help with benefits and help to get training and get a job. We are doing our bit for him and now he needs to do his. If he doesn't want to, then he doesn't deserve our sympathy and sad as it is, I wouldn't want him anywhere near me or mine. This is the sort of person that becomes so desperate in the end that he ends up mugging some 80 year old woman causing her death in the process because bless him, he's an alcoholic and it's not his fault. Glad that he has been removed from Stockton Heath and any cash machines. Parasite![/p][/quote]You might get run over by a bus so should we ban those from Stockton heath as well. All dogs bite so should that also be removed from Stockton Heath as well. etc. etc. ad infinitum. Now that's a thought![/p][/quote]If the bus or dog is out of control as this man is then yes, ban them too!
Oh and by the way, if you're going to give an analogy, then make sure it really is one.voice of (some) of the people

Gazza107 wrote:
Feel sorry for the waste of space really, how pointless his existence must be..

Gazza107,
I agree with you there,I had a brother who was an alchoholic,he was the worse for drink whatever time of day it was,and in the end it killed him.
It is a natural reaction to say,waste of space,scum etc,what he wants is treatment,I see one contributor mentions something in his past or maybe mental health;it may well be.

[quote][p][bold]Gazza107[/bold] wrote:
Feel sorry for the waste of space really, how pointless his existence must be..[/p][/quote]Gazza107,
I agree with you there,I had a brother who was an alchoholic,he was the worse for drink whatever time of day it was,and in the end it killed him.
It is a natural reaction to say,waste of space,scum etc,what he wants is treatment,I see one contributor mentions something in his past or maybe mental health;it may well be.MrBenggo

voice of (some) of the people wrote:
The man is a pest. He does what he does because we accept it all too easily and put it down to his addction. He needs to take some responsibility for his own life. There are services to help him control his addiction, he is provided with a home, he can get help with benefits and help to get training and get a job. We are doing our bit for him and now he needs to do his. If he doesn't want to, then he doesn't deserve our sympathy and sad as it is, I wouldn't want him anywhere near me or mine. This is the sort of person that becomes so desperate in the end that he ends up mugging some 80 year old woman causing her death in the process because bless him, he's an alcoholic and it's not his fault. Glad that he has been removed from Stockton Heath and any cash machines. Parasite!

Couldnt agree more.well said.

[quote][p][bold]voice of (some) of the people[/bold] wrote:
The man is a pest. He does what he does because we accept it all too easily and put it down to his addction. He needs to take some responsibility for his own life. There are services to help him control his addiction, he is provided with a home, he can get help with benefits and help to get training and get a job. We are doing our bit for him and now he needs to do his. If he doesn't want to, then he doesn't deserve our sympathy and sad as it is, I wouldn't want him anywhere near me or mine. This is the sort of person that becomes so desperate in the end that he ends up mugging some 80 year old woman causing her death in the process because bless him, he's an alcoholic and it's not his fault. Glad that he has been removed from Stockton Heath and any cash machines. Parasite![/p][/quote]Couldnt agree more.well said.wirematt

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

&quot;Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?

Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".

Bore off grumpy.

[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]"Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?
Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".[/p][/quote]Bore off grumpy.wirematt

voice of (some) of the people wrote:
The man is a pest. He does what he does because we accept it all too easily and put it down to his addction. He needs to take some responsibility for his own life. There are services to help him control his addiction, he is provided with a home, he can get help with benefits and help to get training and get a job. We are doing our bit for him and now he needs to do his. If he doesn't want to, then he doesn't deserve our sympathy and sad as it is, I wouldn't want him anywhere near me or mine. This is the sort of person that becomes so desperate in the end that he ends up mugging some 80 year old woman causing her death in the process because bless him, he's an alcoholic and it's not his fault. Glad that he has been removed from Stockton Heath and any cash machines. Parasite!

Is that....voice of (some) of the people who work for the Warrington Guardian?
The 'sort of person'...who not only mugs but...kills...not just anyone but...a woman...and..get this right.... she's 80

Haha..dont worry, I think you and yours are safe from others. It's your stupid, paranoid mind you need to watch out for..it'll get ya..every time

[quote][p][bold]voice of (some) of the people[/bold] wrote:
The man is a pest. He does what he does because we accept it all too easily and put it down to his addction. He needs to take some responsibility for his own life. There are services to help him control his addiction, he is provided with a home, he can get help with benefits and help to get training and get a job. We are doing our bit for him and now he needs to do his. If he doesn't want to, then he doesn't deserve our sympathy and sad as it is, I wouldn't want him anywhere near me or mine. This is the sort of person that becomes so desperate in the end that he ends up mugging some 80 year old woman causing her death in the process because bless him, he's an alcoholic and it's not his fault. Glad that he has been removed from Stockton Heath and any cash machines. Parasite![/p][/quote]Is that....voice of (some) of the people who work for the Warrington Guardian?
The 'sort of person'...who not only mugs but...kills...not just anyone but...a woman...and..get this right.... she's 80
Haha..dont worry, I think you and yours are safe from others. It's your stupid, paranoid mind you need to watch out for..it'll get ya..every timePageA

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

&quot;Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?

Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".

Bore off grumpy.

As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]"Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?
Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".[/p][/quote]Bore off grumpy.[/p][/quote]As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.GRUMPY PARENT

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

&quot;Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?

Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".

Bore off grumpy.

As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.

You don't seen to accept information even when it was simply explained to you. Although you deny it the fact still remains that extreme alcoholism and the after effects thereof, are a mental health issue,even if the person wants to stop it and finds it very difficult to do so. As with other additions such as smoking, porography and drug useage and Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]"Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?
Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".[/p][/quote]Bore off grumpy.[/p][/quote]As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.[/p][/quote]You don't seen to accept information even when it was simply explained to you. Although you deny it the fact still remains that extreme alcoholism and the after effects thereof, are a mental health issue,even if the person wants to stop it and finds it very difficult to do so. As with other additions such as smoking, porography and drug useage and Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD).SAC_in_Warrington

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

&quot;Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?

Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".

Bore off grumpy.

As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.

Haha Nice little speech that grumpy.i could say the same about you.maybe you should criticise the alcholic nuisance that we are on about rather than someone with an opinion.

[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]"Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?
Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".[/p][/quote]Bore off grumpy.[/p][/quote]As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.[/p][/quote]Haha Nice little speech that grumpy.i could say the same about you.maybe you should criticise the alcholic nuisance that we are on about rather than someone with an opinion.wirematt

richiepooh wrote:
Our comments are based on the perception of him as portrayed in this article. with no personal experience of this man, he remains scum to me until proven otherwise.

Yet another person with a perception that you are guilty until proven innocent. I am just glad we have a justice system that is the opposite of your thoughts. Would you prefer this chap to fill his trolly with £200 worth of shopping and walk out of Asda as has happened twice in as many weeks. I don't see you commenting on them people and having them &quot;put down" as they are a menace to society. The same could be said of the dancing man who also drinks everyday and dances at the side of the road. He is a menace to society, in your eyes, to me he is just someone I smile at and happy for him to live his life as he pleases. But in the back of my mind I remember that, before the tragedy that was bestowed upon him happened, he fought for this country in the forces. Something I have not done and many other people either, who may not realise what problems with mental illness can do to a person. You know nothing of this man's background so don't be so quick to write him off with a flippant comment.You state you have no experience of the man so he is scum. I have no experience of you so to me you are scum.
Still Grumpy

The dancing man fought for our forces did he? Or is this just what he's told you? Do your research. In your own words "You know nothing of this man's background".
This man can been seen arguing with and shouting at people daily, as well as bursting out a few IRA songs as he travels along on his merry, harmless way, urinating in public view as he goes.

[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]richiepooh[/bold] wrote:
Our comments are based on the perception of him as portrayed in this article. with no personal experience of this man, he remains scum to me until proven otherwise.[/p][/quote]Yet another person with a perception that you are guilty until proven innocent. I am just glad we have a justice system that is the opposite of your thoughts. Would you prefer this chap to fill his trolly with £200 worth of shopping and walk out of Asda as has happened twice in as many weeks. I don't see you commenting on them people and having them "put down" as they are a menace to society. The same could be said of the dancing man who also drinks everyday and dances at the side of the road. He is a menace to society, in your eyes, to me he is just someone I smile at and happy for him to live his life as he pleases. But in the back of my mind I remember that, before the tragedy that was bestowed upon him happened, he fought for this country in the forces. Something I have not done and many other people either, who may not realise what problems with mental illness can do to a person. You know nothing of this man's background so don't be so quick to write him off with a flippant comment.You state you have no experience of the man so he is scum. I have no experience of you so to me you are scum.
Still Grumpy[/p][/quote]The dancing man fought for our forces did he? Or is this just what he's told you? Do your research. In your own words "You know nothing of this man's background".
This man can been seen arguing with and shouting at people daily, as well as bursting out a few IRA songs as he travels along on his merry, harmless way, urinating in public view as he goes.Take2toTango

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

&quot;Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?

Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".

Bore off grumpy.

As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.

You don't seen to accept information even when it was simply explained to you. Although you deny it the fact still remains that extreme alcoholism and the after effects thereof, are a mental health issue,even if the person wants to stop it and finds it very difficult to do so. As with other additions such as smoking, porography and drug useage and Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD).

Sac was this comment aimed at me if so I don't get it as I was the one who stated that alcoholism is a mental health issue.

[quote][p][bold]SAC_in_Warrington[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]"Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?
Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".[/p][/quote]Bore off grumpy.[/p][/quote]As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.[/p][/quote]You don't seen to accept information even when it was simply explained to you. Although you deny it the fact still remains that extreme alcoholism and the after effects thereof, are a mental health issue,even if the person wants to stop it and finds it very difficult to do so. As with other additions such as smoking, porography and drug useage and Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD).[/p][/quote]Sac was this comment aimed at me if so I don't get it as I was the one who stated that alcoholism is a mental health issue.GRUMPY PARENT

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

&quot;Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?

Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".

Bore off grumpy.

As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.

Haha Nice little speech that grumpy.i could say the same about you.maybe you should criticise the alcholic nuisance that we are on about rather than someone with an opinion.

So "bore off grumpy" is not a criticism of me then? I merely corrected your incorrect statement that "he's not got mental health issues". You are clearly one of those people who doesn't like to be wrong but clearly are, most of the time!

[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]"Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?
Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".[/p][/quote]Bore off grumpy.[/p][/quote]As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.[/p][/quote]Haha Nice little speech that grumpy.i could say the same about you.maybe you should criticise the alcholic nuisance that we are on about rather than someone with an opinion.[/p][/quote]So "bore off grumpy" is not a criticism of me then? I merely corrected your incorrect statement that "he's not got mental health issues". You are clearly one of those people who doesn't like to be wrong but clearly are, most of the time!GRUMPY PARENT

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

&quot;Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?

Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".

Bore off grumpy.

As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.

Haha Nice little speech that grumpy.i could say the same about you.maybe you should criticise the alcholic nuisance that we are on about rather than someone with an opinion.

So "bore off grumpy" is not a criticism of me then? I merely corrected your incorrect statement that "he's not got mental health issues". You are clearly one of those people who doesn't like to be wrong but clearly are, most of the time!

At the end of the day grumps.mental issues or not you agree with what he does and I don't.He can get drunk as much as he likes its his begging, claiming he's homeless and urinating in shop door ways in public which bothers me hence my coments.But thats ok isnt it because he's ill!.

[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]"Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?
Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".[/p][/quote]Bore off grumpy.[/p][/quote]As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.[/p][/quote]Haha Nice little speech that grumpy.i could say the same about you.maybe you should criticise the alcholic nuisance that we are on about rather than someone with an opinion.[/p][/quote]So "bore off grumpy" is not a criticism of me then? I merely corrected your incorrect statement that "he's not got mental health issues". You are clearly one of those people who doesn't like to be wrong but clearly are, most of the time![/p][/quote]At the end of the day grumps.mental issues or not you agree with what he does and I don't.He can get drunk as much as he likes its his begging, claiming he's homeless and urinating in shop door ways in public which bothers me hence my coments.But thats ok isnt it because he's ill!.wirematt

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

&quot;Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?

Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".

Bore off grumpy.

As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.

Haha Nice little speech that grumpy.i could say the same about you.maybe you should criticise the alcholic nuisance that we are on about rather than someone with an opinion.

So "bore off grumpy" is not a criticism of me then? I merely corrected your incorrect statement that "he's not got mental health issues". You are clearly one of those people who doesn't like to be wrong but clearly are, most of the time!

At the end of the day grumps.mental issues or not you agree with what he does and I don't.He can get drunk as much as he likes its his begging, claiming he's homeless and urinating in shop door ways in public which bothers me hence my coments.But thats ok isnt it because he's ill!.

Well I suggest that you never visit a City as this is what is rife throughout most of them. Would you rather he went out robbing or burgling to fund his habit or chance his arm at blagging a few quid off people who have a choice to give or not. As for him urinating that is just here say otherwise I am sure he would have been arrested for it by now. Exactly where are the public toilets in SH?

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[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
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[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
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[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
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I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]"Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?
Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".[/p][/quote]Bore off grumpy.[/p][/quote]As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.[/p][/quote]Haha Nice little speech that grumpy.i could say the same about you.maybe you should criticise the alcholic nuisance that we are on about rather than someone with an opinion.[/p][/quote]So "bore off grumpy" is not a criticism of me then? I merely corrected your incorrect statement that "he's not got mental health issues". You are clearly one of those people who doesn't like to be wrong but clearly are, most of the time![/p][/quote]At the end of the day grumps.mental issues or not you agree with what he does and I don't.He can get drunk as much as he likes its his begging, claiming he's homeless and urinating in shop door ways in public which bothers me hence my coments.But thats ok isnt it because he's ill!.[/p][/quote]Well I suggest that you never visit a City as this is what is rife throughout most of them. Would you rather he went out robbing or burgling to fund his habit or chance his arm at blagging a few quid off people who have a choice to give or not. As for him urinating that is just here say otherwise I am sure he would have been arrested for it by now. Exactly where are the public toilets in SH?GRUMPY PARENT

PageA wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian

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I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.

I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery!

No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.

What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper

He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.

&quot;Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?

Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".

Bore off grumpy.

As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.

Haha Nice little speech that grumpy.i could say the same about you.maybe you should criticise the alcholic nuisance that we are on about rather than someone with an opinion.

So "bore off grumpy" is not a criticism of me then? I merely corrected your incorrect statement that "he's not got mental health issues". You are clearly one of those people who doesn't like to be wrong but clearly are, most of the time!

At the end of the day grumps.mental issues or not you agree with what he does and I don't.He can get drunk as much as he likes its his begging, claiming he's homeless and urinating in shop door ways in public which bothers me hence my coments.But thats ok isnt it because he's ill!.

Well I suggest that you never visit a City as this is what is rife throughout most of them. Would you rather he went out robbing or burgling to fund his habit or chance his arm at blagging a few quid off people who have a choice to give or not. As for him urinating that is just here say otherwise I am sure he would have been arrested for it by now. Exactly where are the public toilets in SH?

Well said Grumpy!

[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]wirematt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]GRUMPY PARENT[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]PageA[/bold] wrote:
Haha! ok chaps...you keep believing what you're fed by the newspapers..who would never dream of letting the truth get in the way of an opportunity for the less educated amongst us to shout scum at alcoholics..brillian
t
I've just read the article again, I must have missed the bit about people complaining about him being sarcastic...That's the perception of the people who dont want him there because they live in Stockton Heath. He's never been sarcastic with me. His eyes are down, typical of someone with very low self esteem and he wishes me well when I refuse to give him money as i do regularly. This is a disgrace, this newspaper should be ashamed of itself. A very sad day for Warrington, get a grip.[/p][/quote]I was going to comment on the sarcastic statement PageA but these two have kept me quite busy with their obnoxious comments. As you know I am a resident in SW and have no problem with this guy and these commenter's should be glad he is not doing worse than asking for a few quid. This is snobbery not robbery![/p][/quote]No snobbery here grumps.Everyone is entitle to an opinion on this.Maybe you should invite him round for a drink and socialise with him as he obviously a person you find ok.[/p][/quote]What a plumb! There is quite a bit of daylight between not putting someone with mental health issues on the front of the local paper and mocking them and inviting them round for tea. Just admit it, you're on the wrong side of this. You and the piggy-eyed fascist that runs this newspaper[/p][/quote]He's not got mental health issues you nugget.He's a scrounging ,sponging alcoholic who **** tax payers money up the wall.And I think you'll find im not the only one who thinks this you PLUMB.[/p][/quote]"Question: Is alcoholism a mental disease?
Answer: Yes, alcoholism is a behavioral disorder and is so classified in the diagnostic manual of mental disorders. In this sense, it is a mental illness vs. a physical sickness. Recovery occurs through treatment that includes supportive, educational, group, family and Alcoholics Anonymous (AA) therapy as well as psychotherapy. These target the mind, not the body.
You were saying "nugget plumb".[/p][/quote]Bore off grumpy.[/p][/quote]As per usual nothing intelligent to say other than nonsensical nonsense with no understanding or thought behind the comment. I honestly think you could talk a glass eye to sleep wirematt, your clearly boring me on an intellectual basis, your just not up to standard and maybe you are a nuisance to an intellectual society.[/p][/quote]Haha Nice little speech that grumpy.i could say the same about you.maybe you should criticise the alcholic nuisance that we are on about rather than someone with an opinion.[/p][/quote]So "bore off grumpy" is not a criticism of me then? I merely corrected your incorrect statement that "he's not got mental health issues". You are clearly one of those people who doesn't like to be wrong but clearly are, most of the time![/p][/quote]At the end of the day grumps.mental issues or not you agree with what he does and I don't.He can get drunk as much as he likes its his begging, claiming he's homeless and urinating in shop door ways in public which bothers me hence my coments.But thats ok isnt it because he's ill!.[/p][/quote]Well I suggest that you never visit a City as this is what is rife throughout most of them. Would you rather he went out robbing or burgling to fund his habit or chance his arm at blagging a few quid off people who have a choice to give or not. As for him urinating that is just here say otherwise I am sure he would have been arrested for it by now. Exactly where are the public toilets in SH?[/p][/quote]Well said Grumpy!PageA