Subway has been extraordinarily successful for such a mediocre product, but I suppose the same statement would apply to McDonald's. The only way I'd stop at either place is by default: serious hunger and nothing else in sight.

I live in China and my city of Hangzhou has about 5 outlets for a city of about 1.5 million people. One outlet is (or was) owned by an American and the original by a Canadian Chinese. I sometimes go in there for the bread because China has such poor bread. It is the same exact outlet as one would find anywhere in the USA. I think a lot of Chinese like it because the food is mostly vegetables and to them is lowfat. (Personally, I think Jared is a lie and a fabrication but that is not germaine to this tale.)

McDonalds here is not that great, and to a lesser extent that KFC have tailored their food to the local taste, which means that most everything that is delicious back home they don't serve here. Even the fried pies (something McD is famous for an is good) are funky, like taro, mango and green pea. Ick.

i guess I am glad there are now more subways than McD's. If I have to choose I know I am better off with subway, especially if I order it my own way. SOme of the ready built subs are just as bad as a big mac! I found this graphic with a list of fast food places and things you can order that arent on the menu: www.medicalinsurance.org/secret-fast-food-menus It lists pizza sub for subway, which is not healthy (and I am pretty sure that it might be on the kids menu... but I dont go there often enough to tell definitively...)

thanks for that list, Georgie. that Mckinley Mac at McD's is what I've been thinking about for years. what do you think the chances are that the $7.per hr. cashiers would know what that is if you ordered it?