The Big question is will the 7DII announcement and resulting camera cause the same level of dummy spitting, carry on and trolling that happened after the 5Dmk3 anouncement?

YES ... ... IF Canon wants to charge USD/€ 2.500 or more for a 7D II ... AND IF Nikon brings out an APS-C D400 at the same ... AND IF such a D400 also bests the Canon by quite some margin and costs USD/€ 600 less ... THEN there will be many more critical threads and posts than with the overprized 5D3 vs. D800 situation.

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The Big question is will the 7DII announcement and resulting camera cause the same level of dummy spitting, carry on and trolling that happened after the 5Dmk3 anouncement?

YES ... ... IF Canon wants to charge USD/€ 2.500 or more for a 7D II ... AND IF Nikon brings out an APS-C D400 at the same ... AND IF such a D400 also bests the Canon by quite some margin and costs USD/€ 600 less ... THEN there will be many more critical threads and posts than with the overprized 5D3 vs. D800 situation.

rightfully so!

I was under the impression that the D700 replacement would be the 7DII competitor? Or it the Nikon D400 the next after the D700 - never could figure their numbering scheme

as current 7D user I will only upgrade to 7D II, if sensor performance is SIGNIFICANTLY improved. Especially low ISO [banding] and DR across the range. I do not need or want more MP, 18 is plenty fine. APS-C is also perfectly fine with me [APS-H will definitely not happen!] and I do not need or want more fps [even 5-6 fps are sufficient for my use]. Video crap? Could not care less. :-)

In terms of features, I would want a fully working Auto-ISO model [better than 5D 3, at least as good as Nikon D800/D4], fully articulated LCD plus a multifunctional radio-module in the hump: radio-masterflash-controller (RT-system) plus GPS plus WiFi. In that case I would happily forego the pop-up flash. That would also allow for even better weather-sealing. :-)

And a price tag of less than USD/Euro 2000 for the package.

If I had really free choice, I would just love to get these specs in a compact mirrorless Canon - without any compromises in image quality, performance and useability. Provided the EVF is really top-notch. For such a mirrorless 7D II with EF-/EF-S adapter INCLUDED in the package (!) I would be willing to pay up to USD/Euro 3000. :-)

good to see that I am not the only one with 400d waiting for an update ;-)

I am not interested in 7D2, but if it gets a new AF, then 70d should get the AF of the 7D (which said to be very good) and 650d the AF from 60d (at least). The two lower cameras I consider. Give me AFMA please ;-)

I have sold my 7D, but I will probably get a similar camera in the future. I'd love a "baby 1DX", high build quality, large enough body to match full-frame lenses (as the 7D) and an APS-C sensor with good ISO performance.

I'd like a ~12 megapixel sensor, suitable for hand-held use, but since Canon has mRaw and sRaw a little higher count would not hurt. Make it a well-built full-featured action camera for tele work and it will be truly great.

The (not-so-unlikely) scenario that instead 60D and 7D is merged into a 70D with lesser build quality and there really won't be any "pro" APS-C body in the future would be disappointing I think. I don't like the current trend among many manufacturers of packing great electronics into mediocre bodies.

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For those wanting it to remain at 18MP, I really can't see that happening UNLESS they use the same sensor again. If they choose not to go high MP, I think they will do the 5D trick of just adding 1MP more than the previous model. 19MP to differentiate it clearly from the older model, while not significantly increasing the count.

As for those hoping for the 1D X like AF, remember the 5D3 version is cut down from that, and I think it likely we'd get the 5D3 version than the 1D X version. One key difference being the 1D X version also uses the RGB metering sensor to assist with tracking, whereas the 5D3 has the same two colour zone system as the 7D. I'd love to have the 1D X version in a 7D2 at any cost.

not really interested, unless they come up with a sensor that has much better high ISO performance...

8fps & AF-system of my current 7D satisfies my needs completely

Ditto. The ISO performance on the current 7D is my only real complaint. But it would also be nice to get the Auto ISO upper limit feature of the 60D. Wouldn't want to see an upgraded 7D be physically bigger or heavier. The 60D feels more comfortable in my hand than the 7D but I picked up a used 7D because of the better AF and the AFMA feature. I never had a use for the swivel LCD screen of the 60D - maybe because I don't do street or concert photography.

Sounds like an amazing camera, I for sure am interested, also curious to see how the rest of the line up below the Mk2 changes. I'd guess a year after its release my a 70D with the same sensor and 6FPS

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not really interested, unless they come up with a sensor that has much better high ISO performance...

Something similar like in 5D3, but price tells all is it worth to upgrade.Being honest that 61 AF from 5D3/1DX sounds sweet as well 10FPS.Hopefully if that 10FPS comes to stay in 7D2, FULL RAW continuous burst of 20-30 shots, not 17 shots like in 7D.

not really interested, unless they come up with a sensor that has much better high ISO performance...

8fps & AF-system of my current 7D satisfies my needs completely

Ditto. The ISO performance on the current 7D is my only real complaint. But it would also be nice to get the Auto ISO upper limit feature of the 60D. Wouldn't want to see an upgraded 7D be physically bigger or heavier. The 60D feels more comfortable in my hand than the 7D but I picked up a used 7D because of the better AF and the AFMA feature. I never had a use for the swivel LCD screen of the 60D - maybe because I don't do street or concert photography.

not really interested, unless they come up with a sensor that has much better high ISO performance...

8fps & AF-system of my current 7D satisfies my needs completely

Ditto. The ISO performance on the current 7D is my only real complaint. But it would also be nice to get the Auto ISO upper limit feature of the 60D. Wouldn't want to see an upgraded 7D be physically bigger or heavier. The 60D feels more comfortable in my hand than the 7D but I picked up a used 7D because of the better AF and the AFMA feature. I never had a use for the swivel LCD screen of the 60D - maybe because I don't do street or concert photography.

why on earth would you need a swivel LCD for concerts?

it all depends upon where you are in the venue. I have shot many concerts and club events where I was able to get on the stage or climb on the speakers(don't do this as you'll upset the sound guys; luckily for me, I was the sound guy). Having a swivel screen would let you crouch out of the way, holding the camera high or low to get angles that would not otherwise be possible without lots of guesswork. Being on stage you have to maintain a small footprint as to stay out of the way, so for some more creative shots the swivel would be super handy. I can see a swivel LCD being useful for many types of photography; it lets you keep off the ground when shooting outdoors, get good angles when shooting in confined spaces, for video guys it helps with shoulder-rail systems if you don't want to use an external monitor, lets you remain somewhat incognito for street, and I would love to use it for some restoration/construction documentation that I do from time to time where I have enough room to fit a camera with a small lens but not my head (Yes, I could use a P&S for some of the shots, but I don't own a modern P&S).

I'd guess alot depends on what the specs of the 70D are, if for example that body had 24 MP and the old 7D's AF I can see Canon viewing it as higher end general purpose body leaving the 7D line free to target the sports/wildlife/action market instead.