O'Donnell has a lesbian sister who has declared she's no homophobe which is what you apparently are trying to label her.

Are you kidding me? Are you trying to tell me O'Donnell doesn't oppose gay sex? Supporting a lesbian sister, who is not, according to even the nutjobs, doing anything "unbiblical" is not the same thing as not being homophobic or discriminatory against gays. Show me where she supports the right of two men to love each other, and I'll stop saying she hates gays.

A youthful Al Gore smoked plenty of pot, and also was also a pro-life senator.
A youthful Tipper Gore created the PMRC which puts all those wonderful labels on our music telling us the albums contain profanity.
A youthful Bill Clinton signed Don't Ask, Don't Tell and legislation for the V-chip.
A youthful Al Franken did SNL.
A youthful Bill Maher did movies call "Cannibal Women in the Avocado Jungle of Death" and "Bimbo Movie Bash".
A youthful Jon Stewart did work like "Space Ghost Coast to Coast" and "Half Baked".

I think you have me confused with someone else. I don't care what the fuck O'Donnell did as a kid. She could be a born-again porn star for all I care, and I would still look at her based only on the issues today.

The "witchcraft" thing did show an incredible amount of ignorance when she did that interview, however, and she hasn't clarified whether she still falsely links Wicca with Satanism.

Are you kidding me? Are you trying to tell me O'Donnell doesn't oppose gay sex? Supporting a lesbian sister, who is not, according to even the nutjobs, doing anything "unbiblical" is not the same thing as not being homophobic or discriminatory against gays. Show me where she supports the right of two men to love each other, and I'll stop saying she hates gays.

Yeah just so we're clear...believing that gay sex or same-gender "marriage" is wrong or unbiblical not the same thing as "being homophobic or discriminatory against gays."

So, telling gays that they have no option to have sex with someone they are sexually attracted to... EVER... is not discriminatory against gays. Got it.

Telling people that you believe that gay sex and gay marriage are wrong is not homophobic is what I meant to say. I should have clipped your quote shorter. Yes it is discriminatory. But then you say that likes it's automatically a bad thing.

My point is that your point is fucking stupid. You're kvetching over that fact that she's unable to distinguish between Wiccan and Satanism. For fuck's-sake!

Um... okay? I still don't get your point. She's showing a huge amount of ignorance. It's like Sarah Palin (theoretically) saying that Africa is a country, and then not defending herself on the point later.

Telling people that you believe that gay sex and gay marriage are wrong is not homophobic is what I meant to say. I should have clipped your quote shorter. Yes it is discriminatory. But then you say that likes it's automatically a bad thing.

So, according to you, discrimination is good.

Yes, according to me, discrimination is automatically a bad thing.

And how is clipping my quote shorter changing the fact that what I said was "homophobic or discriminatory". Are you saying you should have misquoted me? If you read my quote wrong, that's your problem. It doesn't change the ignorance of your response.

Just so that we're clear, believing that gay sex or same-gender marriage is wrong or unbiblical is the same thing as "being homophobic or discriminatory against gays."

I didn't say that. Want to deal what I actually said instead of what you think I mean?

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Yes, according to me, discrimination is automatically a bad thing.

Good for you.

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And how is clipping my quote shorter changing the fact that what I said was "homophobic or discriminatory". Are you saying you should have misquoted me? If you read my quote wrong, that's your problem.

Not at all. I was trying to put to bed the homophobic thing. If you want to wrap two different concepts into one and get a free pass on it, talk to someone else.

QUOTE=tonton;1718173]Just so that we're clear, believing that gay sex or same-gender marriage is wrong or unbiblical is the same thing as "being homophobic or discriminatory against gays."[/QUOTE]

And that's why I meant to separate them, because it is not the same thing as being homophobic. Your ignorance is showing here.

And that's why I meant to separate them, because it is not the same thing as being homophobic. Your ignorance is showing here.

OK. Stop. You're making a fool of yourself. I never said that it was the same thing as being homophobic, so you can't simply split my statement and take my quote out of context. I said it was the same thing as being homophobic or discriminatory against gays. I said that for a reason.

It could be homophobic. It might not be. That's why I included that word. But it is definitely discriminatory. That's why I included that word.

Context and sentence structure are important! Improve your comprehension skills and you might not be making so many dumb mistakes like this.

8 posts on this page alone. And still I'd like to know what you really think on some of these subjects.

He's deliberately circuitous and obscure. He knows his positions are subject to rational criticism, so he tries to hide them to avoid being criticized for them. Yet he can't resist criticizing others, so he gets all mixed up in the issue, and sometimes inadvertently shows his stripes.

He's deliberately circuitous and obscure. He knows his positions are subject to rational criticism, so he tries to hide them to avoid being criticized for them. Yet he can't resist criticizing others, so he gets all mixed up in the issue, and sometimes inadvertently shows his stripes.

You guys want to have a chat about me, take it private. This thread is about the left's obsession with something some political candidate they don't like did a couple of decades ago.

Thanks. So? I don't feel the need to educate myself on every little inconsequential thing (Wicca and Satanism fall into this category for me.) If you wish to educate yourself on these, knock yourself out.

Thanks. So? I don't feel the need to educate myself on every little inconsequential thing (Wicca and Satanism fall into this category for me.) If you wish to educate yourself on these, knock yourself out.

Ok. Here's the thing. If you don't educate yourself on the issue, you have absolutely no fucking right whatsoever to comment on it without being called out for your incredible amount of ignorance.