It's something I picked up here from one of the non-native english
members. In a discussion of the NT, they suggested the authors may not
have been in wudu when it was written.

I had read in Bukari that Muhummad demonstrated how wudu could be
performed with clean sand when water was not available, so I understood
the act itself was symbolic, but I had not considered wudu referring to a
state of being as well as an action.

As a non-Muslim, it is especially important for me to keep a spiritual
frame of mind here. That is why I try to avoid all political discussions o
this board.

dicussion discussion..well let me say my discussion this is a muslim discussion forum is'nt? so why the hell is people!? ... no offence to non muslim thats on this site too!!! but why would any one wants to get upset? if any one thinks! that whatever been said in this forum is not agreeable to any individual... prove them wrong... if not keep silent until you know you are right no point upsetting anyone..because since i came on this forum i've notice how people are here...they seem tto me a very peaceful individual... and just be thankful we all can be part of this discussion...keep cool and god bless...to all non muslim--- Inshaallah to all the muslim .......

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May Allah Bless those who seek the truth......Allah Stands Alone in truth..

It's something I picked up here from one of the non-native english members. In a discussion of the NT, they suggested the authors may not have been in wudu when it was written....

That's interesting - considering that both Jews and consider their womenfolks 'sinful' (OT + NT) and both men and women are not required to have 'Wudu' or even bath before going for prayers. So, why the writers of OT or NT would need to clean them. After having a quick glance at Jewish Talmud - professor Israel Shamir came to the conclusion that it could not have been written by a 'clean person'.

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The Jews should have accepted Jesus as their Messiah, but they refused and suffered the consequences. The Jews and the Christians should both have accepted Muhammad as

God's final Messenger. They did not, and as a result, the world is in turmoil. "The seeds of the Zionist movement were sown when the first grieving captive departed from Jerusalem for Babylon in 586 B.C.E. The Psalmist poet's ringing cry - "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget its cunning!" - was echoed down the ages by every pious Jew of every generation.

Thenceforth, the thoughts, dreams and prayers of the persecuted ended with the yearning and consoling words: "Next year Jerusalem!" The very concept of the Messiah and the prophetic expectation that his coming would signalize the climactic "ingathering" of all the wanderers of Israel was an intense form of Zionism expressed in terms of the supernatural and the religious. The primal aim of the Zionism was to end the 2000 years old Jewish Diaspora while the subsequent was to establish the supremacy of Jewish race on the world. It was not possible for the Jews to go forth with their plan of world dominance without including main stream people from Muslim and Christian community. To involve them in their Zionist movement a new cadre of non Jewish Zionist was introduced with the name of FREEMASONS. Though it is very difficult to exactly locate the founding date of this cadre, some careful estimates point to 1717 A.D while other claims it to be older than this.

This was the emotional nourishment upon which the bruised consciousness of the Jew fed through the centuries. It was the secularist spirit of the nineteenth century however, seeking social solutions in practical terms, that saw the rise of the modern Zionist movement.

The detailed account of the Zionist and freemasonry movements can be read in the book named 'Satanic Voices - Ancient & Modern' written by David Musa Pidcock, (founder of “Islamic Party of Britain”) which can be downloaded free from :

.....The seeds of the Zionist movement were sown when the first grieving captive departed from Jerusalem for Babylon in 586 B.C.E. The Psalmist poet's ringing cry - "If I forget thee, O Jerusalem, let my right hand forget its cunning!" - was echoed down the ages by every pious Jew of every generation.....

Why not let a Jewish Rabbi tell us a little about Zionism! Here is text of a talk delivered by Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss at the United Association for Studies and Research Studies (UASR).

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