Layla used to get treats fairly often, but she gets NONE now, except for training. And I don't use "treats" for that, I use food. I'll do either a string cheese, pepperoni or a hot dog cut into a million pieces, so that's better than crappy stuff that they sell at pet stores.

Mick's a lot bigger than Layla, so he's obviously going to eat more. Hopefully the vet will be able to fill you in on something I can't

Don't forget that overweight dogs don't really feel flabby like overweight people do... which is why I think that so many people have overweight dogs. It still feels hard... but it's not muscle. Am I making any sense?

And again - I think it's against board policy to pick on members (and their fluffy dogs) in good standing. Especially when said members have seen the error of their ways and are working hard on correcting the situation.