Letang Is The Truth wrote:ah. also, those stupid valryians were stupid for not expecting anything for danaerys

Why would they? She, at the time she showed up, was nothing more than a silly little girl with a worthless horde of broke down barbarians with her.

if someone is giving away the most powerful asset in the world, i think the recipient should at least be cognizant of potential subterfuge. also - i would think that most valryians would know that the targaryens have that in their blood line? i am not sure if that is explained more in the book but since people are so provincial i assume it would be pretty well known.

Letang Is The Truth wrote:ah. also, those stupid valryians were stupid for not expecting anything for danaerys

Why would they? She, at the time she showed up, was nothing more than a silly little girl with a worthless horde of broke down barbarians with her.

if someone is giving away the most powerful asset in the world, i think the recipient should at least be cognizant of potential subterfuge. also - i would think that most valryians would know that the targaryens have that in their blood line? i am not sure if that is explained more in the book but since people are so provincial i assume it would be pretty well known.

In the books Westeros, to the rest of the world, is some crapsplat stain on the map that they would rather never deal with. They are the hicks, rednecks, and underlings of the world.

Letang Is The Truth wrote:ah. also, those stupid valryians were stupid for not expecting anything for danaerys

Why would they? She, at the time she showed up, was nothing more than a silly little girl with a worthless horde of broke down barbarians with her.

if someone is giving away the most powerful asset in the world, i think the recipient should at lea be cognizant of potential subterfuge. also - i would think that most valryians would know that the targaryens have that in their blood line? i am not sure if that is explained more in the book but since people are so provincial i assume it would be pretty well known.

In the books Westeros, to the rest of the world, is some crapsplat stain on the map that they would rather never deal with. They are the hicks, rednecks, and underlings of the world.

Letang Is The Truth wrote: i would think that most valryians would know that the targaryens have that in their blood line? i am not sure if that is explained more in the book but since people are so provincial i assume it would be pretty well known.

The people in that city speak a form of Valyrian because they were once conquered by Valyria, but they are not Valyrian themselves. The nation of Valyria was destroyed by what was probably a massive volcanic eruption around 500 years before the events of A Game of Thrones. The people in Astapor speak a form of Valyrian for the same reason that most people in South American speak Spanish or Portuguese.

Letang Is The Truth wrote:so why did they release theon just to have the same guy come back and capture him...?

Part to torture him and part because the guy who let him go wanted a reward for capturing him

I'm not sure how to reply to this as it will reveal spoilers, so I'll just leave a spoiler tag that can be viewed at ones own discretion.

Spoiler:

The guy that let Theon go and promptly recaptured him is actually Ramsey Snow; the guy who is in command of everyone there. His cruelty is arguable worse than Joffrey's. He's playing one big game with Theon purely for amusement.

Theon's chapters were one of the best in the 5th book, so I really can't wait to see how it will play out on the show.

Letang Is The Truth wrote:so why did they release theon just to have the same guy come back and capture him...?

Part to torture him and part because the guy who let him go wanted a reward for capturing him

I'm not sure how to reply to this as it will reveal spoilers, so I'll just leave a spoiler tag that can be viewed at ones own discretion.

Spoiler:

The guy that let Theon go and promptly recaptured him is actually Ramsey Snow; the guy who is in command of everyone there. His cruelty is arguable worse than Joffrey's. He's playing one big game with Theon purely for amusement.

Theon's chapters were one of the best in the 5th book, so I really can't wait to see how it will play out on the show.

Spoilers so it doesn't mess anyone else up please, but does anyone end up saving Theon?

SolidSnake wrote:Spoilers so it doesn't mess anyone else up please, but does anyone end up saving Theon?

Spoiler:

The details are a little fuzzy for me, but Theon eventually escapes on his own power. Ramsey marries (who he thinks is) Arya, but she is really an imposter; one of Sansa's old friends in Winterfell. Being the wife of Ramsey is one of the worst punishments imaginable, so "Arya" begs Theon to help her escape. Theon, who is scared to death at this point, doesn't want to, but he reluctantly helps her escape anyway. His chapters end at this point, so it's unclear what happens from there until the next book is released. George Martin did release a Theon, sneak preview chapter on his website. I'm not sure if it's still posted.

SolidSnake wrote:Spoilers so it doesn't mess anyone else up please, but does anyone end up saving Theon?

Spoiler:

The details are a little fuzzy for me, but Theon eventually escapes on his own power. Ramsey marries (who he thinks is) Arya, but she is really an imposter; one of Sansa's old friends in Winterfell. Being the wife of Ramsey is one of the worst punishments imaginable, so "Arya" begs Theon to help her escape. Theon, who is scared to death at this point, doesn't want to, but he reluctantly helps her escape anyway. His chapters end at this point, so it's unclear what happens from there until the next book is released. George Martin did release a Theon, sneak preview chapter on his website. I'm not sure if it's still posted.

Fantastic episode. Lot's of character development happening setting up what happens next. I liked seeing Stannis the family man, and seeing more as to why Davos is likable. Hopefully seeing a broken Jamie's insight into why he's a kingslayer is enough to change people opinion about him.

Last season, I was constantly distracted by alterations and the pacing that I didn't enjoy the episodes as much until late in the season. This time, I've really really enjoyed each episode, and haven't had many complaints at all.