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I replaced my K:1 with the R1, in short it is as comfortable as a standard Arione (which the K:1 was not), but weighs 145g

How is the R1? I use a Versus for training but dont need the channel for races. My club is supposed to get Fizik deals so I'm tempted... (though I actually beat the discount on my Versus). The 00 seems too pricey and I don't care for the yellow. Oh pride!

I've had an R1 for a few weeks now. Padding - The padding is more dense and a little thinner than the cx. Comparable density to my antares 00, but slightly thicker than the 00 (haven't had an arione 00 in hand yet). Flex - The shell does have a little bit of flex to it, imo significantly less flex than a cx. The shape does create a tiny bit of a pocket even unloaded (to adjust for less flex in the shell itself??): Setup - I have mine adjusted level from tip to tail and there's a sag/pocket of 3-5mm right around the widest part of the wings. Wings - To me, the wingflex is less about the actual feature, but more about the shape of the edge. From the edges of the nose, to the lead edge of the wings the shell itself curls down significantly, comparable to other arione versions I've felt, but in contrast to the antares saddles which always feel like a flat shell with just slightly rounded padding on top. For me it wouldn't matter how much the wings of an antares could flex because they always end up digging straight into the back/side of my leg. So, in other words, the wings work for me on the R1, but I think it's because the shell itself curls down at the wings, and then maybe the flex is slightly enhanced by the wingflex notches.Overall - Great saddle so far, close to 1,000miles on it already, and once I got the setup right it's been awesome.

Curious.Why do you need a channel for training and no channel for the races?

More a factor of time and, really, my trainer than anything. For long training/fun rides (3 hours plus) I notice the channel, but really the trainer is where I get numbness issues. I don't know why it happens there, but I've been fitted and adjusted forever and the channel is useful there. Races are much shorter, by comparison. Crits and hill climbs (which are most of what I do) are comparatively short. Also, the old adage "train heavy, race light" applies here.

I need to understand this. Never liked fizik .For me it is one of the over rated and over priced components for my bike.Fizik needed ten years to implement a channeled line(versus).What in the shape of a regular Arione did change that it needs a review?

I love my Arione. 1st saddle I ever rode on a road bike and after testing close to 20 other saddles (see other threads), its what I came back to. Technology and other shit aside, it simply works the best for me.

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I need to understand this. Never liked fizik .For me it is one of the over rated and over priced components for my bike.Fizik needed ten years to implement a channeled line(versus).What in the shape of a regular Arione did change that it needs a review?

There are many different models of the Arione, this thread is/was/is about the R1, not the regular model. The R1 has a different shell, carbon rails, etc.

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