I played some bgs recently during the beta weekends and it was horrible. Even wow bgs at low lvl are more engaging and thoughtful. It was an absolute clusterfuck with way too much aoe spam going on and if youre playing ranged it feels like youre playing a crappy arcade fps. I think the superiority of ranged over melee is even worse in this game tbh. The sad thing is I had most of my ability slots unlocked by this point and with only 11 (i think it's 11?) max abilities you can use at any one time, I dont think its going to get any better at max lvl. Just wondering if anyone has tried any arenas/max lvl pvp. Does it get any better? It seems really shallow tbh.

Dizzeeyo, on 16 July 2013 - 12:28 AM, said:

id love to be playing the same game as you where hunters and ferals are the biggest counters to mages

and this is what people have been asking too rofl. It'll prob be just as terrible, all classes feel the same, ranged/war w.e

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I completely disagree with you, i found myself to completely crush scrubs and have a way bigger impact on the game then in the average wow battleground (as a dps mind you as a mw you can pmuch keep an entire team alive). The confusion and cluster fuck of all the spells has more to do with the fact that you're prolly not used to it. You can easily dodge incoming attacks and 1v4 is tottaly feasible in low level bg's (me playing a stalker) because of how the targeting works. (altough medics and engineers were hard to dodge, but apperantly they are really op in both pve and pvp atm, and warriors suck balls at low levels).

The thing that i really liked is that killing someone takes quite some time, and healing someone also takes quite some time. The slowly filling and draining bucket that wow wants so bad is tottaly there in wildstar, its a completely different ball game then wow arena mind you. Its way more about outplaying the enemy dodging skills and using your cc effectively to get away or to stop their burst during their inate. Thus whoever plays better on the long term wins the game (who gets the most hits who prevents the most damage etc. so in that aspect it's completely different from wow). Whereas in wow arena is about cooldown cycling (which is about half your keys, and you all use them at the same moment anyway), and the team that makes one mistake gets one shot..

i was also worried about the 10 skills max (plus your inate). But there is a vast array of skills viable and they all vary a lot in what they do (next to your general damage attacks). I'd say that the combat is actually the stuff they did really well, taking some stuff from gw2 and wow and combining it into something really smooth. (altough i personnaly hated gw2 combat, wildstar feels fluid)

This is all from my experience at low level, altough all info i've seen so far points to a way more fun/tactical game in the high levels (people apperantly say the experience doesn't really get good till lvl 25 (which is sad but its a mmo. but its not like WoW is any good till lvl 90)) I'd say this video really sums up the PVE side(not really my point of interest but hey) https://www.youtube....h?v=twa4hE1I8Hc

Oh and all the classes feel complety different, for example a engineer felt really slow and my stalker feels really fast.(next to the difference in tankyness spells etc.)

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Did you even check the game? they have 2v2 3v3 and 5v5 arena's on top of rated battlegrounds in groups or solo rated queue (no idea how this will work out).
And warplots which basically means guilds can buy their own plot, build a castle and reinforce it from the ground up and then challenge other guidls to a 40v40 match trying to destroy eachothers castle which gives rewards.

Yes, those arena's will be like dota but with no creeeps, they can just do smite because it fits that category and arenas will be retarded. And you get like 3 spawns, fun looooong games, and it means that classes 1v1 not teamplay, pvp, unless changed will be garbage. All I want is pve to take off, it's less difficult to create and takes less brainpower to do so.

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Not fun to watch any of it atm, but looking forward to play. June 3rd right?

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Debbie Downer is kind of hot, but you have to capitalize; I think rofl. Goddamn one word.

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Haven't done any level 50 stuff, only up to level 40 BGs and OWPVP, but have played a month in closed beta back in January, and pretty much every beta weekend since pre-orders came out.

I absolutely love the game. From a PVP standpoint, at first, it looks like a bit of a clusterfuck. But you need to realise that, if back when WoW was first out, you were thrown into a BG with 10-15 per side, without knowing the game at all, you would also think it was a clusterfuck too. Once you spend some time learning some abilities, get some addons, tweak your telegraph settings - it becomes a lot more manageable.

I like the combat because while it is action oriented, it's not too punishing. Most abilities have a fairly large cone of effect, which means the game is accessible to people on higher pings, meaning more participation.

I'm stoked they got the movement/controls nice and tight/fluid. That's the biggest deal breaker for me in games, this feels superb.

Only thing I dislike so far is the UI - even with the update. There's a whole lot more (or less in some cases) they could do with it.

Well open beta has started now so hopefully more people from this forum might try it and post feedback?

I still find it so hard to be interested in this game - it just feels like theres so little to do or think about during combat and the levelling is incredibly boring.

But I'm keeping an open mind - I just wont be levelling myself. Gonna wait till enough other ppl get to max lvl first and confirm the game is good - can't be wasting time lvling in mmos which turn out to be crap at max lvl these days....but really hope this game is actually good.

Dizzeeyo, on 16 July 2013 - 12:28 AM, said:

id love to be playing the same game as you where hunters and ferals are the biggest counters to mages

I have a bunch of 2v2 and 3v3 fights over the last couple of days on my highlight real. It's not DOTA/LOL without creeps... It takes a lot more skill than what most people are used too.

i just played some open beta and the movement feels fluid, i'll preorder it i think. but seeing as you have max level experience i have a few question. is dps+healer the norm in 2s and healer/dps/dps the norm in 3s or are dou dps teams viable? can you say something about team compositions and "op" classes ? seems like a lot of warri+healer around in 2s!? can't really decide on what to play as of now.

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i think it's an inward penis, so maybe 3" is accurate? could be more, dunno how deep, never been inside a woman personally

For people actually planning to play the game anyone know which faction is going to have the better player pool? From what I've seen there's 2 pvp servers (one NA one Oceanic) so its pretty obvious which server to play on, but idk which faction.

Looking for a guild that is interested in pve and high rated group pvp play. i've gotten lvl 30 on beta playing dps esper. looking to play on release night and hitting lvl 50 before i fall asleep. hit me up