1a & 1b but I don't really think they are INCORRECT. Lots of things count when ranking "stadium anthropology". The Lambeau experience has much that we, in Seattle, do not. And the opposite is true, as well. I will close by saying that my Packers' friends with season tickets to Lambeau were hella (whatever happened to that word?) impressed with the Seahawks gameday experience last year. Hella impressed.

"Some people here have been groomed to accept mediocrity and lame ducks, I'm on board with the vibrato!" -SouthSoundHawk "BFS is kicking ass in here." -kearly (8/9/2013)

bestfightstory wrote:1a & 1b but I don't really think they are INCORRECT. Lots of things count when ranking "stadium anthropology". The Lambeau experience has much that we, in Seattle, do not. And the opposite is true, as well. I will close by saying that my Packers' friends with season tickets to Lambeau were hella (whatever happened to that word?) impressed with the Seahawks gameday experience last year. Hella impressed.

bestfightstory wrote:1a & 1b but I don't really think they are INCORRECT. Lots of things count when ranking "stadium anthropology". The Lambeau experience has much that we, in Seattle, do not. And the opposite is true, as well. I will close by saying that my Packers' friends with season tickets to Lambeau were hella (whatever happened to that word?) impressed with the Seahawks gameday experience last year. Hella impressed.

Thanks, man. Everything from the sightlines in the stadium to the pregame vibe in Temple Billiards and the roaming Blue Thunder to the approach to the stadium and the interesting art installations and the blue and green lit walkways exiting the stadium and all the characters in the crowd and the culture of the 12th Man. It's a lot to behold. I have brought many many first-timers to games in Seattle and its a little bit like watching someone enjoy their first acid trip. The spectacle of it all. All that glitters is hella.

"Some people here have been groomed to accept mediocrity and lame ducks, I'm on board with the vibrato!" -SouthSoundHawk "BFS is kicking ass in here." -kearly (8/9/2013)

where are the good pregame parties at? (serious question here) Iv'e heard the city really cracked down on tail gating, or was that just in the north lot? We usually get to the game early because of the train.

Hawknballs wrote:where are the good pregame parties at? (serious question here) Iv'e heard the city really cracked down on tail gating, or was that just in the north lot? We usually get to the game early because of the train.

Temple billiards was the .net hangout. There is still a group that gets tohether there. J&Ms is cool, Triangle pub, Elysian. They are a decent it really comes down to getting there early enough. If you are amongst friend and enjoy alcohol they all have something for you.

If you are looking for a traditional tailgate scene -- we don't have that. The massive parking lot, the food on an epic scale, people roving around... go to Buffalo or Green Bay if you want that.

I personally REALLY like our game day setup, but then again, I typically get down there super early, have a massive late breakfast or early lunch somewhere in the ID (dim sum, ramen), grab some snacks outside, find a few beers in a bar, you get the idea. Zero organizing, zero hassle, zero logistics... just a bit of $$ and you are good to go. Urban stadiums rule.

RolandDeschain wrote:Lambeau is so overrated. Transfer all the memorabilia into another stadium, and Lambeau is a craphole; and yes, I've been to a game there. It's "history" that makes it rank so highly.

Don't doubt that's true, but it's exactly the history that draws me. I was a big Packer fan in the 60s, saw the Ice Bowl and all that and to visit that "sacred" ground would be awesome. It's the same reason I'd love to go to Fenway and Wrigley. From what I've read, neither are all that wonderful but man, the historical aspect!

RolandDeschain wrote:Lambeau is so overrated. Transfer all the memorabilia into another stadium, and Lambeau is a craphole; and yes, I've been to a game there. It's "history" that makes it rank so highly.

Don't doubt that's true, but it's exactly the history that draws me. I was a big Packer fan in the 60s, saw the Ice Bowl and all that and to visit that "sacred" ground would be awesome. It's the same reason I'd love to go to Fenway and Wrigley. From what I've read, neither are all that wonderful but man, the historical aspect!

Unlike Fenway, Wrigley has no history other that all the years of frustration.

I know... I grew up in Chicago in the 50s/60s... the era of Ernie Banks, Ron Santo, Billy Williams, Goerge Altman... need I go on.

You can transfer that history into a new stadium. Easily. It also shouldn't count on STADIUM rankings very highly. If you want to talk about team history, that's a different story; but ranking the STADIUM experience, history should be limited to a minor role.

Lambeau has crap concessions, a horrible beer selection, and people forget that Green Bay is in the middle of freaking NOWHERE. You can't fly directly to Green Bay on any major airline; you have to fly to Milwaukee, Detroit, Minneapolis, etc. then fly from there. Green Bay is 2 hours away with no traffic from Milwaukee, and there's nothing else remotely close to it. The population is 100,000 people.

[quote=Thanks, man. Everything from the sightlines in the stadium to the pregame vibe in Temple Billiards and the roaming Blue Thunder to the approach to the stadium and the interesting art installations and the blue and green lit walkways exiting the stadium and all the characters in the crowd and the culture of the 12th Man. It's a lot to behold. I have brought many many first-timers to games in Seattle and its a little bit like watching someone enjoy their first acid trip. The spectacle of it all. All that glitters is hella.[/quote]

When the hella did they get blue and green lit walkways ? Man, I couldn't have been that drunk the last time I left there. Although that was in 2006....

I've heard some people say Lambeau is like football temple, where people invite you to join their tailgate parties even with opposing jerseys on. It's a bucket list for me for sure.

The blue and green walkway i referred to is outside the stadium just to the north and west of the Hawk's Nest.

and Lambeau IS a football temple. Season ticket holders in their 80s. People charging you 5dollars to park in their yard.

Me and my father and brother were yelled at as we walked in our Seahawks jerseys down the sidewalk of a neighborhood next door to the stadium. When we laughed and waved them off, they responded by yelling, get the hell over here Seahawks fans!!

For the next two hours we drank their beer and ate their BBQ brats and talked football: in their front yard and living room!

I could tell other anecdotes, just know that Lambeau is all its cracked up to be. And understand that Roland HATES small town America and everything about it.

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"Some people here have been groomed to accept mediocrity and lame ducks, I'm on board with the vibrato!" -SouthSoundHawk "BFS is kicking ass in here." -kearly (8/9/2013)

We used to do some serious tailgating when I hung out with the obnoxious crowd in the late days of the dome and the early days of Qwest.

We had an old suburban setup with 3 spots connected in a pay lot that allowed tailgating. 36 inch TV to watch the early game or games if the Hawks were playing later. BBQ, grills the works. But nothing I have seen has topped the Arrowhead experience I had in the late 80's. They knew how to tailgate and the stadium was crazy. I was there to watch Skansi make that game winner after dealing with the loudest outdoor stadium I had experienced for the first 59 minutes of the game.

I don't know what they are like now, but back then Arrowhead rocked.

The only concern I have and I mean only is that Bevell will get cute and pass even though Lynch is gaining yardage. 1/30/2015 - loaf

loafoftatupu wrote:We used to do some serious tailgating when I hung out with the obnoxious crowd in the late days of the dome and the early days of Qwest.

We had an old suburban setup with 3 spots connected in a pay lot that allowed tailgating. 36 inch TV to watch the early game or games if the Hawks were playing later. BBQ, grills the works. But nothing I have seen has topped the Arrowhead experience I had in the late 80's. They knew how to tailgate and the stadium was crazy. I was there to watch Skansi make that game winner after dealing with the loudest outdoor stadium I had experienced for the first 59 minutes of the game.

I don't know what they are like now, but back then Arrowhead rocked.

For tailgating, Arrowhead is fantastic. I have seen Seattle play there on three occasions, including the Flood.

"Some people here have been groomed to accept mediocrity and lame ducks, I'm on board with the vibrato!" -SouthSoundHawk "BFS is kicking ass in here." -kearly (8/9/2013)

Have been to Lambeau, Fenway, and Wrigley. There it is all about the history. The Green Bay fans are great though, very friendly, like true 12's. Being the homer I am, there is NO place like the Clink.

12 since 1976 wrote:Have been to Lambeau, Fenway, and Wrigley. There it is all about the history. The Green Bay fans are great though, very friendly, like true 12's. Being the homer I am, there is NO place like the Clink.

Yeah, I dig the GB fans. In 96, they showed up in force at the dome and they turned the place yellow and green. As they pounded the Hawks, the fans were very cool. They were more about being happy for the win than they were about the Hawks losing. Totally cool about how clean Seattle was and sympathetic to the state of the Hawks. Can't remember a more friendly group of opposing fans. Well until last year.

The only concern I have and I mean only is that Bevell will get cute and pass even though Lynch is gaining yardage. 1/30/2015 - loaf

RolandDeschain wrote:You can transfer that history into a new stadium. Easily. It also shouldn't count on STADIUM rankings very highly. If you want to talk about team history, that's a different story; but ranking the STADIUM experience, history should be limited to a minor role.

Lambeau has crap concessions, a horrible beer selection, and people forget that Green Bay is in the middle of freaking NOWHERE. You can't fly directly to Green Bay on any major airline; you have to fly to Milwaukee, Detroit, Minneapolis, etc. then fly from there. Green Bay is 2 hours away with no traffic from Milwaukee, and there's nothing else remotely close to it. The population is 100,000 people.

Yep. It's all about football in title town. I actually lived there for a year. In a detention center, lol. Even there, the (town's) people were very nice.

The stadium at that time was certainly nothing special. Hot water was ran through underground piping to keep the field from freezing. The Pack played half their games there and the other half in Milwaukee County stadium, which was an eerie place and if I recall correctly, the sidelines for both teams were on the same side of the field. Very bush league but the Packers were the 3rd game in town in those days, behind both the Bucks and Brewers. Get out of the sh8thole that was and is Milwaukee and you won't find better people anywhere on the planet. All said, I'd take the Clink over Lambeau any day of the week.

Green Bay is the middle of nowhere, but it's a great game day experience. I saw the Hawks play there in 2003 and it was great.

BFS is right...some of the nicest and most generous fans of any enemy stadium I've been to, and I've been to a LOT. By the 4th quarter, we were getting destroyed so they felt sorry and kepy buying me beer lol.

They're courteous because most of them live in small towns or the middle of nowhere. Typical small-town niceness. I'm not bashing them, I'm just sayin'; it's the only major sports franchise in the world, most likely, that has a largely rural fan base on game day out of any sport.

That being said, just like any other fan base, there are plenty of them that aren't nice, too. It wasn't pleasant being a Seahawks fan in rural Wisconsin in the 90s.

bestfightstory wrote:For tailgating, Arrowhead is fantastic. I have seen Seattle play there on three occasions, including the Flood.

Can attest to this. I remember wandering through the parking lot at Arrowhead and having Chiefs fans ask me why I was wearing a Seahawks jersey. This wasn't during one of our finest seasons. I replied that I was from Seattle. They were stunned. And immediately invited me over to try their BBQ, and drink some beer.

New Orleans was also very hospitable. The Saints fans just wanted to party. Buffalo was also cool as I smoked out with some Bills fans behind the trees alongside the parking lot.

The worst I've encountered was San Francisco. Had beers poured on my head in the parking lot, and food thrown at me, and spit in the face inside the stadium. They can't move to the suburbs fast enough.

Do you know what there is to do around Green Bay when there isn't a football game in progress?

You didn't answer my question. That's rude.

I thought "They do?" was a rhetorical question.

Also, in my experience, many people do not in fact know how rural Green Bay is. Anybody that doesn't know, assumes it's a decently sized city because it has a major NFL franchise. It's a logical assumption, like expecting running water in a hotel. I actually suspect that if the Packers were a Milwaukee NFL team, they'd have less support/attendance in years where the team hasn't done really well.