We are all in heaven NOW

Well said. Arrogance is the word that defines it. People thinking this is "My Little Pony Land" should google up child leukemia then look at their
"heaven on earth" again. Empathy is in very short supply with the selfish, greedy and, as you wisely stated, ARROGANT.

Stange how most people can't read on this thread.
The OP says 'you' and everyone hears 'babies'.
The OP is talking to 'you'! And then there is the shout 'what about the babies?'.

The OP is right 'you' have chosen to suffer and hurt and fight. He is talking to 'you' (whoever is reading the post), not the starving,
'suffering' world. Maybe people find it hard to look at themselves.

Don't look to others to see suffering look for it in yourself.

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what a weak answer! This is heaven, its not about me. How can he be talking about me when he does not even know be. But babies, we know they cany
think for themselves at a young age. We know they dont wake up and say they want to be happy today. He said in his post that suffering is a way of
telling us that we are going in the wrong direction. How can that be the case with babies that are brutally murdered? Cant you see what im saying
here?

All of us with painful chronic illness know better than that ...
Same with all the children suffering and dying from cancer ...
Same with the parenets of those children ...
Same with the people starving around the world ...
Same with the victims of rape and slavery ...
Same with the relatives who have had a family member murdered ...
Same with the people suffering from __________ (fill in just about any disease).

This isn't heaven. :shk: OY

Originally posted by ShadowAngel85
Maybe all you guys should just enjoy your life, instead of constantly thinking (and writing and crying here) about how 'bad' this world is....

Maybe you should open your eyes and actually see the suffering going on ... and how children dying of cancer can't 'just enjoy their life' .... and
how their parents who are in agony watching their children be in pain can't 'just enjoy their life' ... and how people with chronic illness who have
pain that never leaves can't 'just enjoy their life' .... etc

I am happy for you (not joking, I really am).....but some are not as fortunate, and some have it worse than can be imagined.....that's all I am
saying. I'm happy to a good degree, and I certainly don't think all is bad....but it isn't all good for some either.

It sounds like 'you' are suffering.The OP uses the word 'you' and then the following posts speak about the 'others' in the world suffering.
You can recognize 'your' suffering only. You can not cure 'others' suffering, but you can recognize that 'you' are suffering and then you can see
what can be done about that.

How can the OP be talking about the babies? He doesn't know the babies. He doesn't know you either but it is you he is speaking to because he is
addressing 'you'.

Well, you are on the right path from what I read. Now, just wait until you have a kid. Something, hopefully, in your brain will snap. Call it
instinct or whatever you want. You will see the world VERY differently.
Things that somewhat seemed unfair in the world will seem in need of immediate, passionate change for the better. Once you turn into "Lone Wolf and
Cub" vs the corruption that permeates this world you'll see where I'm coming from. Wait and see

you are such unconscious mean, well listen, whatever is negative dont follow free justifications, that is how only evil negativity is free, like urs,
bc it is of abusing true freedom knowledge for its existence above it

so whoever is stating smthg being negative that dont make him sound better, is never talking about himself reality while truly meaning objective fact
as the reason of that statement

Well, you are on the right path from what I read. Now, just wait until you have a kid. Something, hopefully, in your brain will snap. Call it
instinct or whatever you want. You will see the world VERY differently.
Things that somewhat seemed unfair in the world will seem in need of immediate, passionate change for the better. Once you turn into "Lone Wolf and
Cub" vs the corruption that permeates this world you'll see where I'm coming from. Wait and see

I have two. So what is wrong with me that I do not see the world as a violent evil place that one needs to take refuge from?

Am I wrong to teach them that because they do not have this, or somone says that they should not be happy for it does not matter in the end. If one of
them were to get cancer, should I tell them that you should not spend your last moments on this Earth happily with those around them because the will
be dead within the year. Am I wrong to say it is okay to feel negative emotions over things that happen externally outside their control, but not to
let those emotions rule your life. If god forbid one of them is molested should I feel guilty when I show them the world is still beautiful despite
the actions of others.

Please tell me what is so wrong with me that I see the beauty in all things, that all suffering is just a state of mind, that you can control how you
feel about anything, it just may take a bit of effort. That the world is a magical place and no matter what your situation you are lucky just to
be.

nothing at all , please dont make yourself feel guilty the negative entities of this world feed off of any kind of negative energy such as greed ,
lust for power , guilt or jealousy
you seem to be a thoroughly beatiful human from what ive read

What a stupid thread. Firstly, we aren't free. We are free to WANT to do what we want. That means nothing at all, we can actually do very
little, except for the very few who have the means to do actually do whatever it is they'd ideally want to do.

Secondly, we/you who can sit here posting on this forum as if surrounded by fluffy kittens and unicorns are in the tiny minority of people in the
world. If this is heaven, I want out!

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