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In April and May it was "wait until June they will be in last place", then in June it was "wait until the All Star break they won't be over .500", then after the All Star break it was "they won't be around at the end of August", and even after proving everyone wrong it's now "well, maybe they are destined to make the playoffs".

I just don't get it. Even in that article he discounts the Orioles were "for real" until their last 30 games. They have been solid every month and only had one losing month so far this season.

It's just sad that even if they do end up in the playoffs they won't ever be recognized for anything other than being a cinderella team or a team of destiny. As if a team can play cinderella for 162 games, what a joke.

I guess the Rays had to go through this until they were good for multiple years in a row but it still sucks.

It's like what Billy Beane (Brad Pitt) said in Moneyball unless they are WS Champs, no one is going to think they are "for real." And even then, I guarantee you, people will say this was the "flukest" championship team in any major sport.

I think the team had a bit of good luck -- got bailed out, came up with a key hit when you least expected it, etc. But nonetheless I don't think they get the credit they deserved. You win this long, it's not a complete accident. The Astros are like 1-11 in extra inning games, that has to be completely "flukey" right? A team really can't get that "unlucky" in extra inning games. My point is if they were losing the "close games" at the rate they are currently winning them, we would be hearing all about how they can't win the "close wins" not how *unlucky* they've gotten.

And there's been very little luck in the past month or so, they are outperforming their competition.

Did you see what Bobby Valentine said on a sports talk show today? He said "The Orioles are lucky". I guess that would make him and the Redsux unlucky???? Over the course of 162, the ball is going to bounce both ways, you are going to get some call and you are going to have some go against you. Luck has verry little to do with it.

What Bobby V needed to say is Buck has pulled all the right strings and put his players in a place where they can be successful. Buck has gotten the most out of what he has. I think its great to see the Redsux struggle. Lets see how many redsux nation fans will be at Camden come late October this year, my guess would be not many. During the 80's and 90's they didn't travel, not until they started to compete yearly did you see massive numbers of Redsux fans flood Camden.

So to answer the question, no we will not get any credit. Even our division opponents don't respect us.

Well, listening to Baseball Today podcast from Monday-Thursday today at work they still don't believe. They beat the White Sox 2 out 3 going into the Thursday show and Keith Law stated if they make the playoffs they will be one of the worst playoff teams of all time. I didn't listen to Fridays podcast yet so I don't know if they made any comments about the current series.

On another note, I was listening to WFAN in New York after the game. The media may think the O's are lucky, a fluke, not good, etc. but the Yankees fans sure are panicking. It was great listening to them call in and bash the team and ask how the Orioles found Gonzales and why does he look like Mussina or Palmer lol.