I recall a recent discussion on another article where it was questioned whether we should allow articles to have lists of information that are collected from other sources, and whether that would constitute using WikiFur as a webspace provider. I'm wondering the same thing about the list on this page.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't have the information on the wiki, but I'd like to suggest a couple of alternative ways to present it:

A category called "MilFurs" or similar

A resource template, to be included from the article of each person, which lists name, rank, and other attributes that are currently on the list, and optionally including a "MilFurs" category as well.

I'd be willing to implement either/both of those two solutions, but I'd like to hear what others think first. Am I going down the right path here? --Douglas Muth 14:58, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Heh, didn't know I still existed on this list. :P Perhaps we should add list of contact emails/IMs/profiles as well? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.54.14.33 (talk • contribs) .

(*Sigh*) Yes, I started it as just documenting Shockwave's old MILFur list on ALF, last updated on 2000, I looked at the almost finished article, it looked at little dry an jumble, so I thought "Could I table it?" (FyI, this was my first attempt on creating tables, oy,...,) and it looked good! =)

...Then it looked like something we just deal with recently, as you, Dmuth, have also noticed (doh.) I was going to argue that "no, this is, well... Kind of,...website vs Usenet article,... uh," but, I would be in hypocrite in doing so, so I will ask the help from other editor about this, as Dmuth as already done. My contribution (one based on one of Dmuth's suggestions:

An article, MILFurs (Duty roster) with the tabled information puled from this article, and then linked back to it with a note in MILFurs announcing something like "For a roster of all present or former, active or reserve furry servicemen/servicewomen, please see:" Just my two cents Spirou 19:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

I think a List of MILFurs could be interesting to have, so long as it's not duplicating an outside source. However, n/a surely isn't correct under Real name! -- Sine 20:41, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

A) This is a list that been published for several years with no problems with the concern of privacy.

B) I known most of said MilFurs, as I'm one, and have yet to have one ask me to remove their names, as I ask their permissions to add it here, as they were more than honored.

C) Several of the newer ones were entered by the users themselves after announcing the the inclusion on Wikifur, so those could be the ones asking to be removed, as they know they can remove themselves

So, you may ask the specific parties to remove themselves, as they are free to do so, or ask a Wikifur Admin for that task in case of a problem of doing directly for privacy reasons (an Admin, not an editor. See Category:Voluntarily excluded people.) Blanking the whole roster, including in people wishing to remain in it, is not fair to such individuals Spirou 05:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I support the reversion of the blanking, and would also like to point out that I have seen furs talk about being in the military, getting deployed to Iraq, etc. in public places such as LiveJournal in the past without any concerns. In fact, this is the first I have ever heard anyone cite OPSEC. --Douglas Muth 05:52, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

One of the issues here is the usage of real names. A number of MILFurs have brought it to my concern as the moderator of the LJ community that the usage of real names presents an issue. Many furs don't like having their real names out there and there raises an issue of any anti-military persons getting a hold of a list of real names and causing potential harm. Personally, I like the list! Can this table be revised to omit real names? This would still be a complete and accurate list without said real names. --Kendricks Redtail 20:42, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, they can be omitted if privacy is a concern, but it's up to a user or Admin to do so (It wasn't implied that it was a policy set in stone to keep anybody's name there forever.) But, some people on the list are quite happy (or don't care what people may think of their Military service career) to display their name, so it's a juggling act to respect both camps.

Just pass the word if their names being displayed could be a concern, themselves (it's a living/self-editable document,) or an Admin will be more than happy to effect such removal =) Spirou 21:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)