Leafs Have Held The Most Preliminary of Preliminary Turris Talks

Lombardi is a 29 year old veteran. How many times has he eclipsed 50% in his career?

Lombardi:

09-10: FO% 49.7%

08-09: FO% 52%

07-08: FO% 47.6%

06-07: FO% 49.1%

05-06: FO% 52.9%

03-04: FO% 47.9%

He's been between 49 and 52 for the majority of his career. That's not bad, and the difference between Lombardi and Bozak in the faceoff dot of 3-5% isn't enough to justify all of the other improvements Lombardi offers over Bozak. I'm sure Tyler will do a fine job with that FO% as 4C.

I may have misread that, but I keep hearing people saying Bozak > Lombardi as 3C because of faceoffs and it just makes me wonder.

1. In that boardroom there are like 40 people so you need to speak up.
2. Nonis calls the shots.

To be honest, I'm actually intrigued by this. If Nonis calls the shots....wth is Burke paid to do? I mean most of the major trades (a la Phaneuf) were done by Nonis...what has Burke himself done so far? Like I'm not challenging what you're saying...I'm just wondering wth we pay Burke for.

I think that if Turris was to become a Leaf today he would be behind Darryl Boyce in the depth chart.

C'mon Moose. He has more talent that Boyce and Bozak. He is worth the gamble to take a chance. Give him a one or two year deal to prove himself. He is as good if not better than where Grabo was three years ago.

To be honest, I'm actually intrigued by this. If Nonis calls the shots....wth is Burke paid to do? I mean most of the major trades (a la Phaneuf) were done by Nonis...what has Burke himself done so far? Like I'm not challenging what you're saying...I'm just wondering wth we pay Burke for.

He's been between 49 and 52 for the majority of his career. That's not bad, and the difference between Lombardi and Bozak in the faceoff dot of 3-5% isn't enough to justify all of the other improvements Lombardi offers over Bozak. I'm sure Tyler will do a fine job with that FO% as 4C.

I may have misread that, but I keep hearing people saying Bozak > Lombardi as 3C because of faceoffs and it just makes me wonder.

All I remember was Bozak loosing the faceoffs that meant something. If we are basing the value of a guy on faceoffs, might as well put Ziggomanis in there.

All I remember was Bozak loosing the faceoffs that meant something. If we are basing the value of a guy on faceoffs, might as well put Ziggomanis in there.

Negative bias. Bozak was responsible defensively and good in the dot. The difference between Bozak and Lombardi isn't significant, and if Lombardi is healthy he is a more proven and known commodity relative to Bozak, and is an upgrade over Bozak with some of his skillsets.

Depending on how Kadri and Lupul perform, it could very well be conceivable that Lupul goes to make room for Kadri and Lombardi moves to LW.

Of course, that is speculation on my part. I'm sure that management views it as Lombardi 3C Bozak 4C if both were ready to go and the season was starting tonight. However, based on how the season progresses and how players perform the line-up is certainly adjustable.

Teams are scrambling to inquire about Turris. Its not just the Leafs in on this.

His pure talent and skillset are generating a lot of interest within the leauge.

The issue with Turris is that he wants a contract based on that (his ceiling and skillset), and not performace. Which is why Pheonix and the Turris camp have such different visions of his next contract.

Now with that being said, Turris has always been a bit of a whiner and complainer. A very good friend of mine had it out with two years ago while his team was playing Pheonix, and lets just say it soured my opinion of him.

But he's certainly talented, has room to grow as a person and a player and if he can do both of those, his ceiling could be a #1 Centre.

The jury is out on Turris right now, and he could go the boom/bust route. I personally dont think there's a middle ground when it comes to him.

I don't think Phoenix will get a lot for him, after all why would they give up on a high pick prospect, with his kind of potential, if there wasn't a lot more to it than just the money aspect of it.

"ChuckWoods" indicated he may be a head case and sometimes they can do more to undermine a team than help but he is an intriguing kind of player and I guess I would take a flyer on him if the price was right.

To be honest, I'm actually intrigued by this. If Nonis calls the shots....wth is Burke paid to do? I mean most of the major trades (a la Phaneuf) were done by Nonis...what has Burke himself done so far? Like I'm not challenging what you're saying...I'm just wondering wth we pay Burke for.

How possibly could a recent top 3 pick be talked about in trade for a free wallet signing. I have read from countless posters (well 3 anyway) here about the value of top 5 draft picks and the lunacy of Burke's free wallets. How can this be?

After waiting a season and a half to finally get to see Bozak's potential as a third line centre (where we all knew he was going), I can't honestly believe they'd get rid of him on the eve of fruition. I don't think there are many players Burke and co. are more excited to see this season than what happens to Bozak in his rightful position, especially with the chemistry he's developed with Armstrong. (I'd say that apart from the KGM line, those two have more chemistry than any other forwards.) We have too many defencemen and too many forward prospects. I'd wait a year before I even considered tossing Bozak - unless the return was far better than Turris.

This is simple. It's not like it's Bozak or no deal. Keep Bozak where he is.

To be honest, I'm actually intrigued by this. If Nonis calls the shots....wth is Burke paid to do? I mean most of the major trades (a la Phaneuf) were done by Nonis...what has Burke himself done so far? Like I'm not challenging what you're saying...I'm just wondering wth we pay Burke for.

I should also add that Cox is suggesting that they are looking very closely at Colborne to see if he is ready for the NHL. If he is, this goes out the window. It also might mean Bozak is being shopped if his name is being thrown around in this deal, with the close evaluation on Colborne and the health status of Lombardi, it makes sense.

Doubt it. I see Burke shipping out a Dman and a goalie. Maybe Gunnar and/or Gus. I dont think Burke trades Bozak on a big chance like Turris when hes playing so well right now.

People talking about salary dump from the leafs aren't thinking right..

This isn't 2010-2011 season anymore.. the leafs don't have 10 million + in capspace..

We've got about 2 million if we move some contracts around.. which is nothing. Considering arguably our best forward in kulemin is due for a new contract next year as well as Grabovski.. so is Franson as well!

that's quite a bit of new money to be added to the books!

If turris is going to sign with us for say 2.5 million we need to send back at least 1 of our roster players.

It's quite funny how weak out Center depth was last year and now this year we have a Glut of potential and the thought of adding turris down the middle only adds even more!

Turris, connolly, grabovski, would be a pretty sick top 3 centers.. I think bozak would be the oddsman out.

I think then colburne if ready would be great as next years 3rd line center, turris moving up to #2 with grabo traded at the deadline and connolly if gels with kessel the #1.. who knows though if we make a turris trade he could become the #1 alongside kessel and Lupul..

What the hell do you do with grabo then? 3rd line center? lombardi at 3.5 millon as a fourth!?? where'd bozak go? colburne as well isn't going to be a 4th line center!

Trading for turris would create such a logjam and interesting disccussion!