Report: Brad McCoy’s comments sealed Colt’s fate in Cleveland

Posted by Mike Florio on May 3, 2012, 2:38 PM EDT

AP

After Browns quarterback Colt McCoy suffered an obvious (to everyone but the Browns) concussion during a Thursday night game against the Steelers in December 2011, McCoy’s father, Brad, called out the Browns for failing to keep Colt out of the game.

It’s not a surprise. Football coaches at every level generally prefer that parents butt out. Given the fairly legendary temper of Browns president Mike Holmgren and the high degree of sensitivity that the Browns exhibited regarding the question of whether Colt McCoy should have re-entered the game, Brad McCoy’s words undoubtedly triggered a stream of four-letter words at Browns headquarters in Berea.

Colt McCoy should be glad to move on from an organization that is a) utterly oblivious to their QB obviously being badly hurt, then trotting him back out there and b) so rabbit eared sensitive about criticism that they let a concerned parent influence their roster decisions.

Any parent should have done the same thing. The Browns were downright neglectful during the situation. It was clear as day that he had suffered some type of head injury. He was completely dazed when he went off of the field.

Would the Patriots, Packers, Saints, Broncos, Steelers, Ravens, Bengals, Chargers, Lions, Texans, Rams, etc ship their QB out of town because his dad made a few negative comments about a team decision?

Yes, shame on McCoy’s father for being pissed about the team clearly putting his son’s life in danger. Despite Holmgren’s garbage excuses to the media, there is no way that anyone in the coordinator’s booth didn’t recognize that McCoy was not fit to go back into the game. Holmgren is such a tool. I really hope McCoy goes somewhere else and is successful just to spite the Browns. The funniest thing is, now that the Lions are good, the Browns are the true joke of the NFL. I hope their fans continue to live in misery.

If this is true, it’s freaking ludicrous, especially given the current stance on concussions and player safety. If you are going to dump McCoy, let it be because of his performance on the field (you certainly might be able to find cause there), not because a parent pointed the finger at an organization that didn’t have his son’s best interests in mind.

Florio – you did the Grossi interview yourself, and posted it. This is not what he said. He said he didn’t have any doubt that Brad McCoy’s comments played into what has since developed with the Browns quarterbacking – not that they sealed the deal. Plus, any credible reporting that uses Grossi as its source has to recognize that he likely has an ax to grind with the Browns – regardless of his position.

First, McCoy shouldn’t be thrown out like last week’s trash so quick. He was a good QB in college and may not have had enough of a chance to succeed in the NFL. Apparently it won’t be with the Browns. As to his father, I understand his concern completely, but he’s making millions to play in the NFL, keep out of it, he’s a grown man who needs to take care of his own business……….Even at little league baseball, nobody likes the parent yelling out to the kid in the field what to do, or hollering to the coach from the bleachers.

a) well he did not say anything about having concussion. He said that his arm was hurt
b) No organization likes their own employees to publicly criticize them.
c) next time, he should man up and stand for himself. Don’t have your father criticizing the organization for you

Yeah well since guys in the prime of their lives after football are knowingly taking the painful and horrid step of shooting themselves in the chest so they can have brain’s study because of its damage, it’s small price to pay for his son’s health and future.

Teams are sensitive to criticism from their players’ parents. That’s understandable. But maybe a team should be slightly less sensitive to such criticism when it is entirely VALID and its validity is rather obvious to the rest of the world.

Im getting tired of this Mike Holemgren guy who thinks hes bigger and smarter than the game itself. If that was his kid, you know all well would have broken loose. All well will break loose when he Matt Millens the Browns.

I completely agree. The man was knocked silly, and the absolute last place he should have been was back on the field taking more shots.

If teams play “shell games” with players who suffer concussions, and they are discovered after the game has ended, the NFL should fine the organization (or take away a draft pick for repeated infractions). You won’t make teams stop utterly stupid behavior unless you give them a reason to stop.

check out this data: 2011. Colt finishes in the top ten for completions in all of the AFC at #7 i believe it was. He was #18 in all of the NFL ! for completions….
meanwhile … his receivers contributed to the worst rating for ‘drops’ in all of the NFL. Just think if in his second year (2011) they would have got him a couple receivers ! Look at the rival Steelers… did NOT three as in 3 have over 1000 yards each, Antonio Brown was a 6 round draft choice !

How has the hot tempered Holmgren been able to be in the business for so long? I mean he is so damned sensitive and in that line or any line of business it behooves you to be more Michael Corleone than Santino.

To let the comments from any parent or anybody else rankle you so much that you don’t want the guy playing/starting for your team is beyond ridiculous. The Browns eff’ed up. The whole world knows that McCoy shouldn’t have been in the game. Brad spoke up for his son as any parent would who saw a team (who was far out of playoff contention by the way) put their child in danger when that team is SUPPOSED to have the guy’s best interests in mind, especially when it comes to medical issues.

If it is truly because of that that McCoy isn’t starting we cost our team a draft pick (#22 would have been better spent of T Riley or G DeCastro) and set our team back another couple of years as we start over YET AGAIN at the QB position. I no longer have faith in Holmgren as he is just another failure of an owner that clearly knows nothing about how to run a team or who to put in charge that actually does.

Please! So the Browns ignored the criticism of ESPN and NFL network and pretty much the rest of ALL AMERICA who saw that hit, but the fathers comments just sent them over the edge. Look if wanna replace QB’s, no ones gonna argue to each their own. To use his dad as the scapegoat is just pathetic.

The Browns will be back. They are building a team that cannot move forward with colt. He is a good kid but a team needs to address his lack of NFL talent. If you look at the Browns draft picks since Mancini came on board the philosophy of the organization is to pick up solid character guys. Browns have continued that in the last two drafts. It is not personal. It is a business decision. Good luck to Colt.

I wouldn’t want outside voices criticizing the team in regards to player safety. Parents should keep their mouths shut even if their sons health is put at risk due to negligence by the team.

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Okay. You are on the Browns side. But we live in a world where everybody has an opinion and a mic or computer in their faces. To be in that position you must ignore them no matter who they are coming from or how close. This isn’t tee ball, but the Browns are acting as if it is – the Pouting Holmgren is acting like it is. Your dad said saomething I did not like, so you aren’t suiting up this week. Hey, it isn’t MY fault. Thank your dad.”

Holmgren should learn with the media or in this case a parent to address it or ignore it and move on, but he is close to 70 so he isn’t changing…so maybe HE should move on.

Colt is a grown man making millions of dollars and he can take care of himself. Who give a s- what his father says? Yes, Brad McCoy should be upset about what happened, but how he feels should mean absolutely nothing to the Browns.

So when is Goodell going to crack down on Cleveland for putting a guy with an obvious concussion back in the game– and then blackballing him for being concerned about his own safety?

Hypocrite.

Great Point. The answer is never. The owners tell Goodell what he will and won’t do when it comes to how they treat the players. They won’t let Goodell tax an owner for something as trivial as player safety/retaliation. Only the important stuff like the Redskins/Dallas cap penalties.

For starters, I do support the fact that his father voiced his opinion and clearly everyone saw Colt got his bell rung and when asked on the field who he was he said “Batman.” He shouldn’t have gone back in.

Now, my opinion of Colt McCoy. He is the biggest B**ch in the NFL as a QB. I want my QB to be a leader and respected by his teammates. But ever since he’s been in the league and listening week in and week out to NFL’s SoundFX from him, all he does is whine and complain about how “it’s hard,” or “this is tough” or “I just don’t know.” Certain QB’s that were “the man” in college do not and have not translated to the NFL (ie: Colt McCoy, Colt Brennan, Brady Quinn, Jimmy Clausen and soon to be Kellen Moore).

McCoy has been given every opportunity to take this franchise, put it on his back and help the Browns in their division. Having Mac Brown fight for him with quotes and now his father shows the complete lack of preparation and motivation it takes to be a starting NFL QB. He’s a back up at BEST and should consider himself lucky to have a job in the NFL. When he decides to MAN UP and show confidence to win over a locker room, then he’ll be taken seriously.

Match Point Floppy says:
May 3, 2012 3:02 PM
So when is Goodell going to crack down on Cleveland for putting a guy with an obvious concussion back in the game– and then blackballing him for being concerned about his own safety?

Hypocrite.

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I’m not sure this will mean Colt gets totally blackballed, but some teams will definitely endorse the “good old boy network” and avoid him in the future.

Not sure, if true, and I do say if true, why this should be any different then NFL clubs out there, that will not sign certain players because they want nothing to do with the agents representing them.

I tend to believe this story is a fabrication, because the guy is still employed by those same Browns.

Florio, stop bringing up stories like this. no way the Browns sent out a player with an obvious concussion to finish a game…Not in Roger’s league.
Damn video evidence…..
Holmgren, please report to NYC ASAP for a quit sit down so can get your tongue lashing.

So in other words, “better not question our terrible decisions, which we make a ton of them, or you will get our childish ire.”
On a side note, Matzahballz, saying something is difficult or hard is not being a bitch, its admitting that things are going to take lots of work. Colt was not given his fair shot in Cleveland, as I remember, his RB sat out with vaginitas, his WR core consisted of a superb kick returner and his GM is a micromanaging, massively over-rated, past-his-prime, ego maniac. Also, every morning he had to wake up in that crap-hole that is Cleveland. So why don’t you get off you non-knowing, self righteous, pedestal and enjoy your over-the-hill rookie QB that your stupid team took in the first round.

B. Florio conveniently forgets to mention that McCoy STINKS and this issue about his dad shooting his mouth off is a red herring.

C. steelbydesign: How can anyone say that another organization wouldn’t do the same thing? The franchises you mention have QBs that don’t STINK AND they’ve never had to deal with a parent shooting off their mouth in the press.

Colt’s daddy also advised his son to sit out of the second half of the National Championship Game because he had a lot of money on the line, turning pro…. And, that he didn’t need to risk injury for his college team.

Lets put the whole trading Colt for whatever reason aside for a min…..the big issue that i see is the browns late last year, when they were going now where, put Colt in the game with an apparent head injury back to
the game,something is not right with this franchise!!!!

McCoy’s old man is the reason he’s with the browns! Who else would have drafted a qb who shows no heart or mind of his own in his last college football game. I recall the interview with colt, he wasn’t hurt! He said that his dad advised him to think about his career. Colts father isn’t to blame, colt McCoy just isn’t a real football player. No heart and no mind of his own . I woulnt want him on my roster. I wouldn’t even want him starting on my fav cfl team

This is a non-story. It’s a footnote of a daily blog. Anyone who paid attention could tell they didn’t like Colt before thay. While Grossi may have an axe to grind with the team, even he knew by week 4 that Colt wasn’t the qb for them.

The Browns organization needed to be called out for what they did. One of two things happened: someone on the sideline “dropped the ball” and failed to realize Colt had a concussion (you cannot rely on a player to self-diagnose themselves when they have a head injury); or they pretty much didn’t give a _ _ _ _. Either way, the Browns messed up. This is a blessing in disguise- now Colt has a chance to catch on with a better team.

The only reason he went back on the field is because HE wanted to. If you followed the story when it actually happened you would know he was asked repeatedly if he was ok and all he did was insist on getting back in the game and said he was fine. If he came back in and threw a couple touchdown passes his daddy would have never said a word. He didn’t play any different the rest of the game than he did in the season leading up to the concussion. THATS WHY HE LOST THE STARTING JOB!

I remember the BCS Championship Game when Colt McCoy got hurt. Truth is, I thought he wasn’t that hurt and just decided (or his Dad decided for him) that his NFL future wasn’t worth it. I remember them showing his Dad down the tunnel with him and I could not help but think of Carl Lindros. (Flyers’ fans will get that analogy instantly). Colt McCoy stinks, end of story. If he was as good as say Aaron Rodgers, his Dad could have called their management the Fourth Reich and Holmgren the new Hitler and they would not have cared.

dawglbfan says:
May 3, 2012 4:19 PM
The only reason he went back on the field is because HE wanted to. If you followed the story when it actually happened you would know he was asked repeatedly if he was ok and all he did was insist on getting back in the game and said he was fine. If he came back in and threw a couple touchdown passes his daddy would have never said a word. He didn’t play any different the rest of the game than he did in the season leading up to the concussion. THATS WHY HE LOST THE STARTING JOB!

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Disagree. It is the coaches’ & trainers’ who have the final say on who goes in & out of the games. Many times, coaches tell a dazed player to take their pads off, they’re done for the night. I have a hard time believing Colt McCoy had so much sway in Cleveland to override Shurmur et al about staying vs going…

So….. All u need to do is have your parents say something negative about the browns to have them trade u to a better team? Watch how many parents of browns players start chirping the organization now!!!

This is a little ridiculous. If Colt McCoy played the position like Brady, Manning, Rodgers, et al, the Browns wouldn’t care if his dad was protesting outside the stadium every day with 8 foot tall signs. He’s not the starter because he’s not good enough.

Fast forward, the kid gets thrown under the bus and we’re going to have a pout fest because they put him back in a game AFTER a concussion and the kid’s completely irrelevant-to-the-team father speaks up?

Epilogue: We’re offensive geniuses so we draft a qb at pick 22 that would have easily been there at 37…he’s 28…but we’re geniuses, system’s too good to fail…

If you ask me Colt is the lucky one, and good for his dad. They’re probably relieved for him to be out of there, since it’s obvious that the structure in Cleveland doesn’t think much of player safety, even though it’s been a MAJOR center of attention for at least the past three years.

This also, by association, makes both the NFL and NFLPA look very bad and complacent.

Our Browns cannot get out of their own way. Holmgren (Jabba The Hut) is a joke. he says the plan was always “to build though the draft”. Yea… Really? Then why the first year you were here you paid $8 million to Jake Dellholme? Freakin’ idiots. The Browns are a mess. I wish Colt only the best and I do hope he leaves us here in Cleveland. HE DESERVES BETTER !
I can’t wait to see who ANY QB that follows him is going to throw too. We have the most pathetic receiving corps in the NFL.
Good Luck Colt.
I believe in you and know you will do well.
Keep after it !

(sigh) I hate having to do this, but all you haters need to realize that if Colt was worth a damn as a starting QB, his dad could have smacked Holmgren in the mouth with his johnson and he would still have a starting job. Colt showed last season that he was average at best. While I don’t think much of Holmgren (blowhard), the organization decided to move on based on performance, which as I said before was at best average. Colt is a good kid – he’s just not a starter in the NFL. He should be THANKING the Browns for giving him the opportunity to prove otherwise. By the way, he came to the sideline and only said his hand hurt. Why doesn’t anyone question the “almighty” Steelers when they put Pig Ben back in the game against the Browns when he thought he had a broken leg??? Answer is simple: idiots like piling on, and the media for some effing reason loves to hate on Cleveland… no matter what happens. We draft arguably the best player in the whole draft (Richardson) and still get criticized…

Brad McCoy should have kept his mouth, “shut!” I understand the concern. However, he should have handled it through proper channels, like Colt’s agent. Having “daddy,” run to his defense sounds like peewee ball.
Colt is a man working for the Browns. Daddy should not have interfered between the man and his employer. It would have appeared much better had the agent stood up for Colt and did the talking.
With that all said, I think McCoy’s play or the lack thereof sealed his fate. He lacks the talent, period. I don’t believe that Brad McCoy’s imprudence resulted in his boy being subordinated.

I’m pretty sure I read an article on this website about Brian Daboll thinking McCoy was pampered growing up and being extra hard on him. His dad criticizing his employer when he is a grown man tends to support that charge.

When is James Harrison going to get suspended for a whole season? He should have been suspended for a year just for the hit on Colt, not to mention the guy does that every week. Oh, does he need to do it to Lord Favre in order to get suspended for a year?

Now you have some idea of why Grossi had to be let go by the Plain Dealer. Cheap shots at the Browns’ management always was his trademark, starting when Bill Belichick wouldn’t kis his beat writer ring.

Don’t agree with how the Browns have handled Colt. He wasn’t responsible for the Hillis debacle, which played a major factor in the Browns’ decline last year from the year before. I was one of the kid’s chief critics when he came out because he appeared so fragile–largely because his father, also his longtime coach, kept stepping in and pulling him out of games when his injuries were questionable. Colt finally got a chance to prove his toughness in the pros and won me over. And there goes Dear Old Dad again.

Yes, the Browns screwed him. Yes, he should have been pulled from the Steelers game–or at least given a cursory concussion exam on the sidelines. But that is a MAN and an NFL player. It’s high time his dad stayed out of his business and let him do his own talking.

I have not watched enough of McCoy to say how he has progressed or not. And before I agreed with the “not camp”, I would question the talent he had around him.

I remember seeing the big hit, and couldn’t believe how bad he was rocked. The fact he was in a few plays later was disgraceful.

Maybe his old man should keep his mouth shut. But if his old man didn’t say it, Colt McCoy should have.

It’s too bad because even with Weeden, Colt would be a great fit as a 1a/b starter, and a mentor. Even if his play isn’t stellar he knows the system and has acclimated to the NFL game. His salary compared to Wallace is a steal.

But once again, logic is cast aside. Him staying in CLE just won’t work at this point.

Ideally he should land on a good team, with a good supporting cast as a legitimate #2. Get some stability and work on his game with a new system, coach and teammates. Be patient and just wait for his opportunity to show what he can do.

Im sorry but anyone who knows Grossi at all knows that he has an agenda towards the Browns since being dismissed from the Plain Dealer (local paper) thanks to some slanted journalism the Browns took offense to. Since they have some significant influence in the local paper, they were able to assure his dismissal. Fair? Probably not. Still, the agenda is clear.

What most here are doing is taking Grossi’s words (who has absolutely no sources at all in the Browns organization,…remember alienated) and turning them into facts. Grossi does have an agenda and it fits his agenda to paint the organization as bad and this is but one example of it. He is constantly doing it and will do it long after this story. He has an agenda, trust me.

Now about Colt. No organization is going to dismiss or demote a player because his daddy talked to the media about a concussion. Colt may have been called to a meeting asking for those type of events not to happen as things should be addressed “in-house” but it certainly isnt the reason he may be potentially demoted to backup.

The reason he is likely to be demoted? He has had 2 full seasons to produce and prove he could be the franchise qb. He has actually regressed after a rather promising rookie season. While I do think having better receivers, an o-line and a workhorse stud rb would certainly have helped,….there are some things that were rather glaring that deficiencies in the other area DID NOT create. He constantly stared down his receivers, could NOT put any touch on a deep ball or even a mid range. He could not read a defense at all and would constantly resort to throwing to his rb or te 3 yards out when the replay would CLEARLY show there were receivers WIDE OPEN. I just think the transition to the speed of the NFL has not worked out so far for him and the Browns are starving for wins now. He wont improve much with a better line or receivers as he is not able to get the ball downfield on time. So unless the Browns expect to win every game with 3 yard dump offs and handoffs then they needed to accept him as game manager and continue looking for their franchise qb. They believe they found that in Weeden. We shall see.

McCoy was not done wrong. The injustice was putting him back in the game the day of his concussion without having him checked out. The Browns should have been fined for that. His dad has every right to be concerned but would have been better served talking to the FO 1 on 1 on that to show his concern.

If anything, the Browns are the reason Colt even had a chance to make a name for himself in the NFL.

Three rounds into the draft (and very deep into round 3) was when the Browns drafted him. This means EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE NFL DID NOT THINK HE WAS STARTING MATERIAL.

The Browns afforded him the opportunity to start through injury VERY QUICKLY and with his opportunity he showed what he can do. He is a good leader, a good kid, certainly has fight and perserverance but he lacks key qualities I think are needed in the AFCN especially. You must be able to read a defense, you must be able to throw downfield on time and you must be able to audible (which he couldnt do).

So while I would have no problem if the FO felt like they are willing to continue with the McCoy project, I definitely understand why they moved forward with someone with a different skillset for the answer.

So with that out of the way I bet he’s as unbiased about Browns management as a Fox news crew at an Obama rally (or the Daily Show reporting on the republican primary to avoid bias).
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Holgrem made his name off of Brett Frave’s back. He’s overrated and has never done anything since. Kinda reminds me of a certain HC in DC

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I guess making another Super Bowl with a former Favre backup in Hasselbeck is “nothing”? Only 28 men have coached Super Bowl champions, and only FOUR have ever taken more than one team to the Super Bowl, and Holmgren is one of them.

The truth is Holmgren’s system made Favre who he was. It was the same system that Sherman picked up and ran during his time in Green Bay (having been Holmgren’s OC in Seattle), and almost exactly the same system Childress brought to Minnesota (from Philadelphia where Reid coached, a former Holmgren assistant) and that’s a big part of the reason Favre wanted to go Minnesota – the familiar system.

It was Holmgren who coached up Steve Young to get the “rabbit” of his blood, and it was Holmgren who finally found a way to drill a hole in Favre’s extra thick skull and let the WCO sun shine in. Without Holmgren, Favre would have been Bubby Brister 2.0 AT BEST.

But as far as a GM or executive, Holmgren has, so far, proven to not be all that great. He spun his wheels in Seattle for two years, but once he brought Ted Thompson in from Green Bay to oversee player personnel, the Seahawks began their best run ever. And once Ted Thompson left Seattle began to sink off the charts (while having returned to Green Bay to be GM, well….).

I think it’s funny how the Bengals fans talk smack about the Browns, yet they can’t get enough fans to show up to their games, even with a winning record. Instead of who dey, they should be singing where dey?! My son’s youth football team gets more fans at his game, than they do at Paul Brown Stadium!

Colt McCoy is a bitch. Out of all the QBs to come out of his draft class, I pegged him as the most likely to be a bust & career backup, at best. This kid has absolutely no heart or toughness either. If you remember his final year at Texas, they were facing Alabama in the BCS Championship Game. Colt took a light hit in the 1st quarter & got a “stinger” which resulted in him sitting the rest of the game. Texas was stuck playing true freshman Garrett Gilbert & got dominated in probably the WORST BCS Championship Game ever. Stories came out soon after the game that he was cleared by the Longhorns’ doctors & trainers to return, but Colt’s daddy stepped in & made the decision that Colt wasn’t playing the rest of the game. He wasn’t at risk of being injured any further, however his Daddy was concerned that if Colt played at anything less than 100%, he would not perform at a high level & would look bad for scouts at the game. Colt & his Daddy were more concerned about protecting Colt’s draft status than they were about competing & possibly winning the biggest prize in college football. The little punk allows his Daddy to have way too much say in his career & the dude needs to grow up. The Browns should be happy about Colt’s daddy pissing them off because they are a million times better with Brandon Weeden than they ever would have been with McCoy. The only real knock on Weeden is his age, which is a legitimate knock, however the kid can play. Weeden can make every throw that is needed ti be a solid NFL QB & even though he played in a shotgun, spread option offense at Oklahoma State, he has made some serious strides in his 3/5/7 step drops & may just be the most NFL-ready rookie QB besides Andrew Luck. His age, 28 (29 in October), will most likely result in him playing only 7-8 years, however his age is also an asset in that he is much more mature than the other rookie QBs. Mark my words right here, and I am very rarely wrong about these QB predictions: Brandon Weeden will have a better career than RGIII both statistically & team success. RGIII is one of the most overrated QBs to come out of college in a LONG time & the comparisons to Cam Newton are baseless & will be proven frivolous very quickly. The only similarity between Griffin & Newton is their skin color. Based upon combine numbers & visual proof, Luck is the one who possesses the closest athletic similarities to Newton; and Luck has a better arm, is more accurate, has been playing in a pro-style offense for 4 years and, most importantly, has been calling his own plays & audibling at the line after reading coverages & formations of the defense for 2 full years. Bye bye, Colt. Don’t let the door hit your a$$ on the way out. Browns fans should be ecstatic because with Colt gone, they have the second best QB in this draft ready to start for them. Holmgren has always known what he’s doing.

a) well he did not say anything about having concussion. He said that his arm was hurt
b) No organization likes their own employees to publicly criticize them.
c) next time, he should man up and stand for himself. Don’t have your father criticizing the organization for you
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Yeah, it wasn’t like Colt looked like he had just dropped acid or anything. And it’s not like any player would try to go back in the game no matter what. And it’s not like anybody on the coaching staff saw the hit…. And it’s not like your worthless fan base would have shredded him if he had taken himself out.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh……hold on……….

That’s why you don’t leave the decision to the player. You people will say ANYTHING to piss on McCoy and defend your Arena league team.

Awww, nothing like reading comments from casual NFL fans who only know the Browns stink and thats about it.

If you believe Colt’s daddy influenced any decisions by the Browns’ front office, I have a bridge to sell you. Good lord, being reported by Tony Grossi w/ no sources, as usual, would clinch it for anyone who knows anything about the factory of sadness . . .

Non-story made up by Grossi and posted here by his good pal, Florio . . .

It’s obvious from Florio’s accent that he is from the Pittsburgh area, and I’m guessing he is a Steelers fan, which makes sense considering his biased articles against the Browns. I know rivalry sucks these days, because the Browns do, but it wasn’t always this way, and Florio probably grew up hating the Browns and Cleveland. Old habits die hard, but it’s silly to allow it to make you post such pitiful drivel propaganda against Cleveland, Florio.

Hey Florio did I miss the part that didn’t sound like speculative hearsay by a bitter ‘journalist’ or DID GROSSI TWEET THAT TO YOU?

Grossi reputation is a joke in Cleveland and your interpretation of Holmgren’s call to ticket holder’s in MANY articles here (and now this) was not only misguided but placing you in the same camp as Grossi. Is it Holmgren or the Browns as an organization that you have a problem with?

It’s obvious from Florio’s accent that he is from the Pittsburgh area, and I’m guessing he is a Steelers fan, which makes sense considering his biased articles against the Browns. I know rivalry sucks these days, because the Browns do, but it wasn’t always this way, and Florio probably grew up hating the Browns and Cleveland. Old habits die hard, but it’s silly to allow it to make you post such pitiful drivel propaganda against Cleveland, Florio.
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Okay. Now what explains all his nasty articles about the Steelers?

Before anyone takes this story to the bank, you should consider the source. Tony sees things quieting down about dumping Colt, so he has to stir up an old story again in hopes this one will be the one to get Colt shipped out of town because he can’t stand him. Tony is the worst kind of reporter when he gets it in for someone.

This is just another example of why it’s hard to say some quarterback are/were busts. If you throw a young quarterback to the wolves while equipping him with puppies what do you expect to happen? Tim Couch had a platoon of misfits, Matt Leinart had zero help for offensive line, Jason Campbell playing with 18 different coordinators, Alex Smith having buffoons as coaches early on. Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russel, and Akili Smith etc fit into the latter, just bad habits that crushed their chances. Colt McCoy will greatly benefit from sitting behind a veteran, Carson Palmer, Eli Manning, Tony Romo, Tom Brady, all of the best players have taken that route.

You insult the people, the weather, the lake, the people, the fans who were suckers punched. The people who nursemaided the game you people purport to support and love. From the 40 to facemask the Cleveland Browns have done more for football than your Panthers or Jaguars or Jets. Those who wete so identified with the team that they kept those “ugly” colors. The Browns faithful carry on suffering within while cheering for garbage. But we are the classless ones because the home of Pro Football represting the greatest inovator the game has known demands–dares to it would seem–a winner in exchange for our peerless passion. We were your contempt like a badge and will be so kind as to remind you of the most Newtonian fact known to humans: karma bitch.