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Please dont stray too much from the topic.
P.S: Taiga sure is a Tsundere but her character development is amazing and at the of the novel her personality change alot. Overall she is a quite good character to me unlike louise or Aria with their personality stay almost the same through the novel

It is something that Restia wished for. It was not revealed until the very end of the sixth volume, the very last sentence of the epilogue in fact.

Spoiler:

"I hope you will assassinate. The five Spirit Kings."

This is what Restia ordered Kamito to wish for.I honestly have no idea why Kamito and Restia would think that the Spirit Kings would grant such a request in the first place. As Kamito later points out, it was a wish that was impossible to grant.

Spoiler:

It backfired badly, and not only did Restia disappear, but she lost much of her memory except for pivotal moments with Kamito.

This was the reason why she was almost entirely different from when Kamito used to be with her.

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Originally Posted by dragon1412

Scarlet is better in my opinion.But you should go with the one you like

@Kleeyook: well that maybe because its the author taste? but anyway dont worry too much. STnBD is diffirent from Znt. If you read both you can see that Kamito have more depth than Saito and well on later volume Claire did change(well, she is still annoying as hell to me but it better).
The most diffirent point from the 2 MC is that the feeling that Kamito have for Claire is not love(well, maybe a little). He is being influenced alot, sure but if you read the later volume you can see that romantic affection Kamito have for Claire is rather weak compare to Restia (yay !) and if you exclude Restia the one he normally give his affection the most is Est.

Anyway when you guy read further you can see that unlike Louise who have mostly 100% of Saito feeling, Claire arent have that privilage and Kamito,as isaid in my previous post, is more similar to hayate with Athena rather than Saito and Louise.

The mainpoint is that in STnBD the line of main heroine/support heroine arent as clear as in Znt and the author is quite well versed in romance so we can hope for STnBD not to jump in Znt footstep.

I have to agree. In terms of relationships, I think he was closest in fact with Terminus Este, his partner. He spends almost an equal amount of time with all the girls, but his relationship with Este and Restia, I believe, is better explored compared to his bonds with the others.

But to me, with the whole master-servant relationship is like putting stupid chains upon Kamito, because it limits his independance and his growth because we ALL know that Claire won't be far behind with her usual haunty tsun tsun and Pride this and that.

But to me, with the whole master-servant relationship is like putting stupid chains upon Kamito, because it limits his independance and his growth because we ALL know that Claire won't be far behind with her usual haunty tsun tsun and Pride this and that.

But quite often Kamito is able to use this perceived master-servant relationship to embarrass Claire to his amusement.

the main point is Kamito is not a M but a S. Unlike Saito who bend down at every single absurd demand of Louise, if Kamito is annoyed, he will teased the girl however he like and while Louise make contract with saito using magic, Kamito contract with Claire are just word and Kamito never take it seriously before, the only who care about that con tract is Claire alone.

But to me, with the whole master-servant relationship is like putting stupid chains upon Kamito, because it limits his independance and his growth because we ALL know that Claire won't be far behind with her usual haunty tsun tsun and Pride this and that.

Actually i dont think claire is going to care if she finds out he is Ren Ashfall.
Its like you can never get jealous at micheal jordan in basketball, unless ur already near his class.

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Originally Posted by darthfanta

It is something that Restia wished for. It was not revealed until the very end of the sixth volume, the very last sentence of the epilogue in fact.

Spoiler:

"I hope you will assassinate. The five Spirit Kings."

This is what Restia ordered Kamito to wish for.I honestly have no idea why Kamito and Restia would think that the Spirit Kings would grant such a request in the first place. As Kamito later points out, it was a wish that was impossible to grant.

Spoiler:

It backfired badly, and not only did Restia disappear, but she lost much of her memory except for pivotal moments with Kamito.

This was the reason why she was almost entirely different from when Kamito used to be with her.
I have to agree. In terms of relationships, I think he was closest in fact with Terminus Este, his partner. He spends almost an equal amount of time with all the girls, but his relationship with Este and Restia, I believe, is better explored compared to his bonds with the others.

WoW thank you.
His wish was driving me crazy.

I also thought it was something like he wished her to be human or to be free, which was a big no no. Kinda like wishing a genie free.

I really like Est.
Her comments cracked me up.

Est why are u in my bed.
Because u are my master.
Why are u naked with only socks.
Why? do you want to see my feet? Ecchi~

LOLOL... Est is epic.

btw in full power mode... who is stronger?
Restia or Est? Because i know Est is currently nerf'd 1/10th of what she can do.

Also i read that Est drains life... does this not apply because she is nerf'd 1/10th of her original power?

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Originally Posted by dragon1412

the main point is Kamito is not a M but a S.

Kamito is a total S.
The way he toys with ellis, and claire, and the way he pulls the situation to his movement is a total S.

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Originally Posted by blitz1/2

But to me, with the whole master-servant relationship is like putting stupid chains upon Kamito, because it limits his independance and his growth because we ALL know that Claire won't be far behind with her usual haunty tsun tsun and Pride this and that.

i think he said that only in the spur of the moment.
to wake claire up.

At the end of vol.1, u see claire telling est that she is the master, hence est's master.
Est asks if its true, and Kamito feigns a No.
Although we know Est was present when he said that, hence if it really applied, Est wouldnt have to ask.

OK, I have hacked up a pdf version of vol1, at least now it is a proper book. Check it out, please. You might be pleasantly surprised. If you have downloaded the previous version, you might want to download again. And please feel free to let me know if you have any suggestions.

If case anyone is wondering the size. I think most of it come from the images, because I used the large scans. I also included a few scans of vol2 at the end as PV. The size of the images just accumulated.

OK, I have hacked up a pdf version of vol1, at least now it is a proper book. Check it out, please. You might be pleasantly surprised. If you have downloaded the previous version, you might want to download again. And please feel free to let me know if you have any suggestions.

If case anyone is wondering the size. I think most of it come from the images, because I used the large scans. I also included a few scans of vol2 at the end as PV. The size of the images just accumulated.

btw in full power mode... who is stronger?
Restia or Est? Because i know Est is currently nerf'd 1/10th of what she can do.

It's either a draw, since they are on the same tier as spirits, or Est is stronger, since Este's last master killed Restia's.

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Originally Posted by aigomorla

Also i read that Est drains life... does this not apply because she is nerf'd 1/10th of her original power?

Spoiler:

From what I have read, Este does not drain life, but curses her spirit contractor. The amount of power drawn from Est is proportional to the strength of curse affecting her user. Kamito is still cursed, but it's strength is not as strong as what it should be--which killed Este's last user when she fought the last male spirit contractor. What happens is that when the curse reaches it's zenith, the spirit contractor becomes crystalised--thus killing them.

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Originally Posted by Tom Bombadil

Spoiler for Claire's sister:

Spoiler for only for those who are update with the current volumes:

Sorry to disappoint you. But I believe n0m@n is right. There are several clues for this. There is one scene where the fake Ren is described as having red eyes or hair. Probably one scene where she even used fire magic if my memory serves. Another clue is that Restia said that the fake Ren specifically instructed that she was not to hurt Claire.

That's what I believed when I first read about what Claire's sister did. But it's highly predictable if it really was the case. But the question here is why is she strong enough to match Kamito?According to what Fianna mentioned, mikos did not receive any physical combat training. Even Fianna is pretty defenseless without her spirit.

Spoiler:

It would make a lot of sense though , as to why she knows the internal structure of the Spirit King's temple so well.

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Originally Posted by freezer0300

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Est is a sealed spirit, Kamito has contracted in the shrine in chapter 1 of vol 1. She has just awakened from her thousand of years slumber.

Second, Kamito was feeling guilty of using her, when in fact he had lost his previous spirit.

Third, Kamito has stopped using a spirit in a period of three years, when he lost his other spirit.

Four, Spirit contractors are only supposed to use one spirit only, disruption of a spirit's power would often occur if a contractor has more than one spirit under contract.

By the way, in the official popularity contest, the result is the following:

1.Terminus Est
2.Ellis
3.Rinslet
4.Claire
5.Restia
6.Fiann
7.Kamito

The author also hints that we might see coloured pictures of the Kamito as Ren Ashbell or at least cross-dressed in the future.

Sometimes tho when u have too many people doing edits tho, it gets messed up even more.
Kinda like the game Telephone, where u get an editor constantly fixing another editor, and the finalized is nothing which the original writer hoped for.

Sometimes tho when u have too many people doing edits tho, it gets messed up even more.
Kinda like the game Telephone, where u get an editor constantly fixing another editor, and the finalized is nothing which the original writer hoped for.