Boulder police take back Ramsey case

With criticism mounting over their handling of JonBenet Ramsey's 1996 slaying, Boulder police handed the investigation over to the District Attorney's Office six years ago. On Monday, the police department welcomed it back.

With the support of newly elected Boulder County District Attorney Stan Garnett, Police Chief Mark Beckner said his agency is reactivating its Ramsey investigation and again taking the lead in efforts to solve the city's most infamous cold case.

As part of the change, Beckner said, his department has invited veteran investigators from several state and federal agencies to participate in an "advisory task force.â

The group, which will include about 20 people, will meet for a two-day "powwowâ sometime in the next few weeks to review all the evidence. The goal of the task force, Beckner said, is to "explore all possible theories about what happened the night JonBenet was killed.â

Beckner didn't directly address a letter that former District Attorney Mary Lacy sent in July to the Ramsey family exonerating them as suspects in their daughter's death. He said he wants to go into the talks with no presumptions.

"We are open to all possibilities,â he said.

The 6-year-old beauty queen was found dead Dec. 26, 1996, in the family's Boulder home, 755 15th St. Police said then that her parents were under an "umbrella of suspicion,â but a grand jury ended an investigation into the case with no indictments. JonBenet's mother, Patsy Ramsey, died in 2006.

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Lacy apologized to the family last year, saying evidence points to an intruder as the killer.

Beckner said he began thinking about taking over the investigation last summer when Lacy sent her apology letter, and he met with Garnett about that prospect.

"We were on the same page right away,â Beckner said.

Boulder police gave up the case in 2002, in part because of criticism that they bungled the initial investigation by ruining evidence and focusing solely on the Ramseys as suspects. Beckner said he was "OKâ with that change at the time, "if people felt it was better off with the District Attorney's Office.â

Now that time has passed, Beckner said, his department is ready to pick up where it left off.

Lacy said Monday that she supports moving the case back to Boulder police. She said Garnett doesn't have time to review 30,000 pages of investigative materials, and police "really are the ones with the knowledge and the background.â

"Reinventing the wheel would be crazy,â she said. "It would have taken Stan a year or two and wasted a lot of resources.â

Garnett said police should lead the investigation because "district attorneys prosecute, and police investigate.â

He will, however, be on the new Ramsey task force, which also will include representatives from the FBI, Colorado Bureau of Investigation and Colorado Attorney General's Office.

John Ramsey's attorney, L. Lin Wood, of Atlanta, said he and his client are optimistic about the change.

"The goal is to solve the murder,â he said.

A letter police sent Ramsey on Monday asked for any information he was willing to provide, Wood said.

"I expect that sometime in the future they would speak with each other,â he said, adding that he hopes police investigators can leave behind any bias they once had.

"Old habits are hard to break,â he said. "My only concern is that this be a fresh look.â

Trip DeMuth, a former Boulder prosecutor who worked on the Ramsey case, said he doesn't believe Beckner can handle the case without prejudice, and it is "less likely to be solvedâ unless the department approaches it without baggage.

Larry Pozner, a Denver defense attorney who's been critical of the handling of the case, said he doesn't expect new leads or suspects to come from the task force or future police work.

"This case is badly damaged,â Pozner said, "and there's nothing they can do to correct the impression of their bias or the evidence that was lost.â

But Chief Beckner said he's hopeful that a new look and advancing technology will shed new light.

"Some cases never get solved, but some do,â he said. "And you can't give up.â

- and remember that Lacy paid for her own ticket to fly to Patsy Ramsey's funeral

(My own opinion? A terrible, unfortunate accident that turned into a cover-up to save face - both the Ramseys' and the city's.)

Oh...is Big John still dating the murdered Aruba girl's mother?

donwrege

2/2/2009 1:41:01 PM

donwrege you are spot on!

Interesting

2/2/2009 1:44:14 PM

Can't a Six Year Old Little Girl that was killed get a little respect around here?! Or is Getting Away with Murder still all the rage ONLY in Boulder? Twice the time span of JonBenet's life has passed and it seems like the Citizens of Boulder could care as less now as they did 12 years ago.

Now - if only Lin Wood will refrain from promising to Break the Bank in Boulder if they dare look his clients, the Ramseys, way.....there is still only a small chance that this case will have Justice on its Side, but it's better than having no chance at all with Mary Lacy standing in the line of fire for 'da killa's.

Research before posting, please and thank you....

forumsforjustice dot org RiverRat

ffjriverrat@hotmail.com

2/2/2009 1:46:25 PM

does this news warrant a big picture to promote it ? Will we have to gaze upon this again and again for every slight development or non-development of this story ??

really, been there done that. Give us all a break...

JakPott

2/2/2009 2:27:55 PM

I am glad to see that Boulder is going to waste more money the city does not have on this dead end. What a bungling and embarrassing investigation this has been for the first 10 + years. Can't we just put this behind us?

bldrroddy@yahoo.com

2/2/2009 2:33:36 PM

Put it behind us?! There is only one way for that to happen and that is with a conviction - a little compassion for a murdered child wouldn't hurt either.

ffjriverrat@hotmail.com

2/2/2009 2:54:14 PM

Since the new d.a. was was on the school board it should be no supprise that he has brought the same incompetence to the d.a.'s office. He is a pro at spending other people's money or should I say wasting money. When is this town going to get a clue and not vote for the weasels but now that we see his agenda maybe he can be recalled before he does some real damage, like Mary Kennen, I mean Lacy.

msjjaj

2/2/2009 3:12:29 PM

Please remove thsi from the friont page, and stop cosidering this case news until there is actual progrees, not just a rehashing of a VERY old story.

lafayettelooney

2/2/2009 3:23:45 PM

I wonder who is picking up the bill for this Clusterf...? If the police and DA's office have that many people just sitting around and drinking coffee, they should cut staff, not waste time on old cases that can't be solved.

How much is this little "pow-wow" going to cost the over-budget city/county?

Elwood

2/2/2009 3:24:23 PM

How are they going to arrest Patsy? She wrote the note. She's dead.

koldkase

2/2/2009 3:48:15 PM

and WHO will the granola-munching keystone cops try to pin it on THIS time? (film @ 11)

bouldersuks

2/2/2009 3:59:04 PM

Does anyone out there know the reason why the physical address of the house was changed from 755 to 749?

Greateight

2/2/2009 3:59:05 PM

From "The Big Lebowski" -

------------------------------------------------------------------

Auto Circus Cop: "Leads, - yeah, sure! -

I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they've got four more detectives working on the case.

They got us working in shifts! "

- [laughs]

"Leads!" -

[laughs hysterically, shaking his head as he walks away]

" LEADS! "... - :0

bouldersuks

2/2/2009 4:06:27 PM

755 15th St. was changed to 749 15th St. because of all the cars driving real sloooow by it day and night.

ericp46@hotmail.com

2/2/2009 4:07:04 PM

Did the brother have an alibi?

geneloehrlein

2/2/2009 4:25:06 PM

It was one of the Naked Pumpkin 12.

Stephen@Haydel.com

2/2/2009 4:36:25 PM

Elwood: "How much is this little "pow-wow" going to cost the over-budget city/county?"

We asked. While there will be a number of former and present investigators at the meeting, it is considered "soft costs." Meaning: They'll be paid for their work, but they would have been paid for working on those days anyway.

Beckner did say the city might spring for lunch.

Best,

Erika

Editorial Page Editor

stutzmane@dailycamera.com

2/2/2009 4:36:30 PM

This is great news. It's an excellent, professional approach. It's not Lou, Tracey, Jameson, et. al., peddling their latest perp of the week at Lacy, who was only too ready to jump at whoever they give her. No one knows this case better than the BPD. I hope the task force are allowed to stick with it for an extended period of time.

tara

2/2/2009 4:55:19 PM

Wasting money on a case that will never be solved.

siggy1123@hotmail.com

2/2/2009 5:04:15 PM

We need to make sure this case lingers so that the tabloids have something to print. I bet this sold more papers than the articles featuring Brangelina.

BlindLemonFishStix

2/2/2009 5:54:24 PM

Could not care less.

Get this twaddle off the splash page.

som80302

2/2/2009 5:54:40 PM

Who did what? Can't beat a dead Mammoth.

smithomon

2/2/2009 6:38:31 PM

There was a press conference live this afternoon with Beckner, and the new DA was the other man on TV, I presume. Beckner said the "task force" would last two days. No, I am NOT making this up!

Beckner also said they haven't had the case file or evidence for six years, so they have to "catch up" there, as well. Yes, that's what he said!

So...lunch paid for by the BPD...a good laugh all around that the press even showed up again...and it will be over. They couldn't even get through an in depth examination of the autopsy results or compare the ransom note with Patsy's exemplars in two days.

Who do they think they're kidding?

koldkase

2/2/2009 6:40:29 PM

I've got some news. I'm about to file an appeal that is going to rock the corrodors of the Unjustice Center. Keep your eye's peeled for my earthshaking developments!!

This has nothing to do with poor dead Jon B. But it does have to do with 5th amendment rights and the DA's office!!!

Who know's, maybe I'll get my own personalized listing of ongoing news... one can only hope!!

smithomon

2/2/2009 6:41:45 PM

If the Daily Camera would put up the video of the press conference with DA Stan Garnett and Chief Mark Beckner, that would be wonderful.

tara

2/2/2009 6:48:21 PM

Thank goodness! The crack BPD is back on the case. Should be solved within days now...

IXLR82

2/2/2009 6:50:38 PM

Gotta love the cycle of incompetence.

Layoff half of each department and give the taxpayers their money back instead.

NukesInBoulder

2/2/2009 7:24:18 PM

Pursuant to my experiences with a noted "Disposal-for-hire" professional who happens to be a former US Representative, I've left messages, etc., etc., to the above authorities.

With no response, nor inquiry, naturally.

Well, maybe now is the time, and they'll give me a call? It's been nothing but a massive cover-up all along, and I also prove it on my website, www.rickhyatt.freeservers.com, and at my Picasa albulm, where you can actually purview the long-term list of victims that I am personally familiar with, and for what poltical purposes, at this vital espionage take-over point in time for our country.

rickahyatt

2/2/2009 7:34:27 PM

I have wondered about one thing. When one of my grandchildren is hiding or I can't find them, I search "every" room and closet until I find them. Why did it take "hours" for them to find JonBenet's body in the basement? They should have searched every square inch of that house looking for her. That is what every mother would do - leave nothing unturned.

lynnrhurst

2/2/2009 8:42:33 PM

"How are they going to arrest Patsy? She wrote the note. She's dead." --posted above by koldkase

Exactly. Uh, hello - nobody is fooled. Everybody knows it was the Ramseys. Oh, we know it was OJ, too. Hey, we have brains, former DA and atty for the R's.

lynnrhurst - "They" did not "find" JB's body. John Ramsey did. Hello. He knew it was there all along. Read some books about the case and you will not be ignorant on points such as this one. Start with the book by former Lead Detective on the case Steve Thomas.

"a massive cover-up all along" --posted above by rickahyatt.

A child could figure that out. Who do these people think they're fooling? This is not a DNA case, it's a 3-page ransom note case, and Patsy wrote the note. The person who wrote the note is the Perp. End of story. A terrible accident happened, and then the cover-up. That's the answer to this case.

FreeSpeechUSA

2/2/2009 10:00:11 PM

The Karr debacle: Anyone who knows anything about this case dismissed that possibility immediately. What incredible incompetence of the former DA.

Apologizing to and exonerating the R's: Again, what incredible incompetence of the former DA.

Read the books about this case and you will easily put the puzzle pieces together.

FreeSpeechUSA

2/2/2009 10:16:20 PM

"Trip DeMuth, a former Boulder prosecutor who worked on the Ramsey case, said he doesn't believe Beckner can handle the case without prejudice, and it is "less likely to be solvedâ unless the department approaches it without baggage."

Not like Mr. DeMuth doesn't have his own baggage on this one, after working for the DA's office and being removed from this very case.

Maybe next time the DC could find an unbiased person to make comments about how "biased" others are?

What_Happened

2/2/2009 10:46:57 PM

10 years is a long time to reopen the case. Roadblocks have been firmly put in place by the ramseys, evidence has been lost or tampered with. It's too late for BPD to clear their bumbling antics and save face. This poor child was murdered and justice being done has past. Unless, someone comes forward with a bombshell or confession, reopenning this case is futile and a waste of time and money. What a shame.

I know you're being sarcastic, but that was ruined the first day by the Boulder PD. They did not separate J and P R which should have been the first thing done. They were fooled into thinking it was a kidnapping, which, of course, it wasn't. In addition, they allowed R friends to roam the house for hours. Crime scene: Gone. Finally, Boulder PO Linda Arndt tells John R to go through the house and see if anything's out-of-place. He immediately goes down to the "wine cellar" in the basement followed by his friend Fleet White, opens the door to that dark room and "finds" JB. He brings her up the stairs where all the myriad of people in the house loom over her, which is probably where the tiny speck of unknown DNA came from. It was then that, according to former Lead Detective Steve Thomas, Linda Arndt realized just what had gone down in the house, and who the Perps were.

The messed-up saga continues. Anyone with interest in this case should read Detective Thomas's book first, followed by the many others which also provide info.

I wonder if the Boulder PD has ever heard of "Ockham's Razor," to wit: The simplest explanation of something is most often the correct one. Also called the Law of Parsimony. That well-known "Umbrella of Suspicion" should still be open because that's the simplest explanation and it's the correct one. But, they'll probably just keep on chasing will-o-the-wisps.

FreeSpeechUSA

2/3/2009 6:42:34 AM

Don't forget that Lin Wood was threatening to sue the Boulder Police and the only way to pacify him was to take the case away and put it under the intruder friendly umbrella of the D.A.

Has Mary Lacy announced her new job yet?

Mindy

2/3/2009 7:04:59 AM

The Money, The Money, The Money.........how disgusting that is the only concern here and THAT greedy mentality that lives in Boulder is WHY you keep having to face this case!!!

She was a CHILD!

ffjriverrat@hotmail.com

2/3/2009 7:09:27 AM

"Posted by super_boulder on February 3, 2009 at 5:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sure hope the crime scene hasn't been ruined."

Best quote of the day...LOL!!

bouldersucks: great scene in Big Lebowski, I forgot about that one...Leads!

IXLR82

2/3/2009 7:35:39 AM

"She (Lacy) said Garnett doesn't have time to review 30,000 pages of investigative materials, and police "really are the ones with the knowledge and the background.â

I agree with that. Trust me, Beckner has the time Garnett doesn't. But at the pace Beckner and his crew work, expect this case to remain cold for a very, very long time.

Boulder Police can't effectively bust a group of 10,000 pot smokers on 420 Day, can't reign in naked pumpkin runners on foot or even manage to timely bust meth labs like the one found on Sir Galahad Dr. Why should anyone expect the Ramsey case to be solved at the hands of Beckner's crew?

At 46 I don't think I'll live long enough to see this case solved. Had this crime happened in another city, another jurisdiction with a different police force investigating it, this case would be finished business. Purely speculation and opinion, but I think it's correct.

ewilson@i-55.com

2/3/2009 7:43:14 AM

"Don't forget that Lin Wood was threatening to sue the Boulder Police and the only way to pacify him was to take the case away and put it under the intruder-friendly umbrella of the D.A." --posted above by Mindy

Why do you "pacify" a rabid dog?

"Intruder-friendly umbrella." -- Good One. There was no "intruder!" Let's see - All of the ransom-note materials came from inside the house, the paper, the pen. The "intruder" even felt so relaxed he wrote a practice note! And the diction (word choice) of that scumbag intruder in the note - How refined! How erudite! He even remembered to put the French accents on "attache!" You gotta admire that intruder's love of the French language! And he even uses "hence" as a transition word - how lovely! Just a coincidence, of course, that "hence" was one of PR's favorite transition words found in her correspondence. And speaking of PR, also how coincidental that the ransom note is divided into the 5 distinct "Who/What/When/Where" (make that 4 - not the "How")sections of Journalistic reporting! And P had a degree in Journalism! All sheer coincidence, of course.

Along with Ockham's Razor, the Boulder PD should think about this remark from 17th century English poet Ben Jonson: "Language most shows a man. Speak, that I may see thee."

PR spoke - LOUD AND CLEAR IN THE RANSOM NOTE.

Good God, Bunglers. It's no wonder Boulder refers to you as the Keystone Kops.

Also, the mysterious "S.B.T.C" at the end of the "War and Peace" ransom note? Come on, religious Patsy, wearing a huge cross in many published photos? It's "Saved By The Cross," - Jesus, you know. P is obviously communicating that despite her crime, Jesus died for her (for our) sins, and she will be saved. Ditto with the "Victory!" (Which reminds me that PR was also a big user of the exclamation point). Later, she employed the Freudian defense mechanisms of Rationalization and Denial to the end, in order to psychologically deal with the tragedy.

Since the case is now re-opened I'm going to do some re-reading, starting with Steve Thomas's book.

FreeSpeechUSA

2/3/2009 8:18:06 AM

who. effin. cares. (nobody). sounds like the city is looking for more tourist dollars thru their usual sick manner. they should create a jon benet museum of unsolved mysteries, or better yet - some sort of theme park ride that lets you dress up in a santa suit and "re-enact the crime" in 3-D glory.

bandelier1

2/3/2009 8:42:44 AM

Everybody cares. I don't know why but they do. This story is on the front page of yahoo and aol right now. Personally, in my morbid little way, I've always hoped they would bring this case back - its a real life mystery right here in our back yard. And for all the theories out there - they are just that, theories. Nobody knows what happened trust me.

KFC

2/3/2009 9:04:18 AM

KFC: "Nobody knows what happened trust me."

****

The person who wrote the note knows what happened.

And it's a good bet that none of the following people wrote it:

- John Ramsey

- Santa across the street

- a "small foreign faction"

- a "well-dressed stranger"

And how Lacy/Tracy thought they could pull off a smoke screen with John Karr is a testament to their belief in the general public's lack of knowledge, concern and sense of decency.

But Tracy had a book to hawk, and Lacy had a friend to protect so they attempted it and failed miserably. Meanwhile, Boulder took yet another black eye internationally.

Perhaps...just perhaps, there are some honest individuals on the Boulder Police Force who are bothered by the way this thing went down, and are doing their best to draw closure on it. We can only hope. I would sure like to think so.

donwrege

2/3/2009 9:45:17 AM

As someone else mentioned, this case is not "unsolved," it is just "unprosecutable."

The work now isn't finding out who did it and how, it is a matter of finding some kind of evidence that can be used in court.

It doesn't appear that there can be any. Obviously the family DNA will be all over the crime scene.

The best lead seems to be typing Patsy to the ransom note. But that only narrows it down to her as the perp or her covering up John's deeds. With her dead, it can never be determined which is the answer.

Dr. Henry Lee, the greatest criminal mind in the nation, said it was a "accident followed by subsequent cover up".

Of course the real question is... WHY COVER UP AN ACCIDENT?

And the answer is... INCEST.

And be careful because the Ramsey's lawyer will sue you if you so much as mention the evidence of sexual abuse found on the body. That is why you don't see anything mentioned in the media anymore about the sex part of the case.

zedlepplin

2/3/2009 10:46:49 AM

The Ramsey case is proof that the wealthy can literally get away with murder in amerika.

If you can afford the right lawyers, there is no law that you must obey.

zedlepplin

2/3/2009 10:59:30 AM

Maybe the police department can also take back the idiotic and false statements from the DA that said the family was innocent in the matter while they are at it.

lonny_frye@yahoo.com

2/3/2009 1:21:41 PM

"Maybe the police department can also take back the idiotic and false statements from the DA that said the family was innocent in the matter while they are at it." --posted above by lonny_frye

You mean the former DA, Lacy. Yes, her statements are idiotic and false. Of course the R's are the Perps, hello, that's a no-brainer. There's no "small foreign faction," LOL! What there is is a massive cover-up by a wealthy family who fooled the naive Boulder police from the get-go. By a "Hollywood" ransom note, no less! Right - the phone didn't ring. Gee, I wonder why?

FreeSpeechUSA

2/3/2009 2:57:23 PM

This is such a smart move, and a great idea. It's the best of the best in local, state and national law enforcement, so they Ramseys can't keep scapegoating the BPD, saying it's just their opinion. Plus, we ALL saw their perps of the week during their investigation with Lacy, John Mark Karr, et. al.

Yes, this is a case about the 3 page fake ransom note that links to Patsy Ramsey any number of ways. Her use of acronyms, her double indented closure, her handwriting, her use of a manuscript "a" (which she changed after the crime), her pen (put back in it's cup) and her pad of writing paper. It's also about 3 other people in the house "asleep" while the perp is committing this violent crime, and no one hears a thing. There's also the staging of the crime scene. What "real killer" hangs around to stage the crime scene, after the offense, with people in the house? Cops can prove the duct tape was placed over the child's mouth AFTER she died, the ligatures on her wrists were loose, and she could have slipped out of them, among other things.

tara

2/3/2009 4:53:49 PM

"Yes, this is a case about the 3 page fake ransom note that links to Patsy Ramsey any number of ways." --posted above

Exactly. But the cops will keep pursuing that miniscule speck of DNA as if it was the Holy Grail.

And the irony is - it means nothing. Whereas, the fake ransom note means everything.

FreeSpeechUSA

2/3/2009 5:07:24 PM

the case has always been solved..they just can't prosecute it because the killer died a few years ago from breast cancer and Mary Lacy exonerated the rest of her family. RIP JonBenet.

Justice4JJ

2/3/2009 5:48:24 PM

_why_is_this_news___?

JakPott

2/3/2009 6:58:14 PM

Nice work DC, leave this garbage up for two days....it will keep you from posting the inevitable national headline that must actually pain you to post: Obama's crisis in trying to find clean Dems to fill his posts.

Can't wait for the liberals to start the "our scumbags are better than your scumbags" rationalizations....

IXLR82

2/3/2009 7:05:04 PM

"In March of 1998, Don Foster, Linguistics expert, traveled to Boulder for a special briefing to the Boulder police investigators and representatives of the D.A.'s office on his findings. By now he was convinced he knew who the author was. "In my opinion, it is not possible that any individual except Patsy Ramsey wrote the ransom note," adding that she had been unassisted in writing it."

Of course she did. That's a no-brainer. And the person who wrote the note is the Perp. DNA or no DNA. Capische?

FreeSpeechUSA

2/3/2009 8:28:18 PM

Evidence? You want EVIDENCE?

HEY, BECKNER! HOW ABOUT FINALLY GETTING THE DA TO WRITE A SUBPOENA FOR THE DANG RAMSEY HOME AND CELL PHONE RECORDS! How about Access Graphic's old phone records? Patsy said John had a company cell phone. Any time now! IT'S ONLY BEEN 12+ YEARS! Maybe the FBI can advise you on THIS NEW INVESTIGATION TECHNIQUE.

Too late? Who knows? Yes, as Steve Thomas told us, one cell phone record "turned over" to LE a YEAR LATER by the PRIME SUSPECTS--inspired by DA Hunter's wonderful COOPERATION with the PRIME SUSPECTS, THE RAMSEYS--was "blank". Patsy said, conveniently enough, it was a "lost" cell phone. But LE USED THE RAMSEY CELL PHONES THAT MORNING, ACCORDING TO LE, AS WELL AS JOHN RAMSEY UNDER OATH IN THE WOLF SUIT!

Thomas said the cell phone company rep said the phone did have calls on it in the months BEFORE the murder--alas, LE wasn't "ALLOWED" to see those...NO SUBPOENA! Brilliant, Hunter! If LE had GOTTEN A SUBPOENA, like any other LE investigating a child murder IN THE HOME would have, then the records after that Dec. month should have been blank as well, right? But LE wasn't ALLOWED TO SEE THOSE. (In my best Patsy Ramsey "911 call" voice, WHAT?!)

YOU WANT AN INTRUDER LEAD, RAMSEY SHILLS? HOW DOES LE KNOW THAT THE INTRUDER DIDN'T FIND THAT PHONE? If the Ramseys made calls in the night long before the 911 call--CASE SOLVED! If an intruder found the cell phone and that linked him to the Ramseys--case solved! This could have happened THE FIRST WEEK OF THE INVESTIGATION!

Oh, well, too late to get the records now. Or is it?

BECKNER! TRY YOUR EVIDENCE LOCKER FOR CLOSED CASES: IT'S THE OLD PI CASE FILE. You must know it, the BPD investigated it! PROSECUTED BY THE BDA, PI PLED GUILTY, FIRST YEAR AFTER THE MURDER--ILLEGAL GATHERING OF PERSONAL BUSINESS RECORDS ON THE RAMSEY PHONES AND CREDIT CARDS! Conviction! THE PI ILLEGALLY OBTAINED THE PHONE RECORDS OF THE RAMSEYS! THAT WAS COLLECTED AS EVIDENCE IN THE PI PROSECUTION. The detectives investigating the Ramsey murders were told YOU CAN'T SEE THESE--NO SUBPOENA!

Sorry, I'm not buying this spin. They don't want to solve this case and never have. Political conspiracy and corruption. End of story.

koldkase

2/3/2009 9:51:06 PM

rickahyatt, you have a very interesting website.

But I'm a bit confused, are you implying that former congressman GC was involved with Jon Benet's murder? If so, please tell us more.

RoseFromTheDead

2/3/2009 10:20:17 PM

koldkase - I don't really get why you think the old phone records are so important. There's no "intruder," so that's a dead end. What about the R's own phone calls do you consider to be so important? What would make their calls "evidence?"

There should be a special prosecutor in this re-opened case who is not connected to Boulder or Colorado politics or political figures in any way shape or form, and whose sole concern is getting justice for JB.

FreeSpeechUSA

2/4/2009 6:19:38 AM

who did the Ramseys call during the early morning hours of 12/26? Pretty sure phone calls were made...before Patsy made the 9-1-1 call. Those phone records would be very enlightening.

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