I swear I remember hearing that A-Rod and his wife had a very open relationship, did a lot of swinging and multiple partner stuff. "Good Christian" or not, she may very well be okay with the whole thing.

I swear I remember hearing that A-Rod and his wife had a very open relationship, did a lot of swinging and multiple partner stuff. "Good Christian" or not, she may very well be okay with the whole thing.

That is totally cool with me, but I'd be mighty surprised if they were public about it. His public image has always been very straight-laced.

I used to be a huge fan of his, so I read everything I could get my hands on about him. Did you hear that from a reliable source, or just gossip?

Also, I am in NO way implying that someone needs to be monogamous in order to be good or Christian. (As if.) I'm using the expression the way he has used it in interviews - Christian = hetero, conservative, monogamous, etc.

"No, Johnny and I are friends. We get along just fine," A-Rod said on Tuesday. "He's a real good guy, and his wife, Michelle, she's a nice lady. It's just that, well, they're a little different than us. They’re kind of wild. They have an 'open' relationship, whereas Cynthia and I are pretty conservative. I mean, not conservative politically or anything, but conservative in the fact that we don't fuck other couples."

Right now in our world an MLB player cannot even be out as gay. What are the odds one of the highest profile players of our time is going to be out about having an open marriage...?

Just gossip, but for some reason it stuck in my head. I'm sure he hasn't had his PR guy writing press releases about it, but I thought it was an open secret. Sorta like the open secret about how every MLB player screws around. I really do think marrying a pro athlete comes with a tacit "permission to sleep with other people on the road" clause... though I'm sure some wives are clever enough to pretend not to know so they can pretend to be shocked and get some extra nice jewelry out of it. ;)

Just for the record, I'm all for open relationships (though I am not in one myself). It's the hypocrisy/lying aspect that makes it cheating. But regardless, good point re: the hypocracy of pretending to be monogamous in the public eye.

"I really do think marrying a pro athlete comes with a tacit "permission to sleep with other people on the road" clause..."

That is such an insult to every dude out there who has no interest in cheating and happens to be a good ballplayer. I know I'll never cheat, and had I fulfilled the dream of becoming a pitcher for the Red Sox, I wouldn't suddenly change my morals.

that mets game was crazy tho. two balks in an inning? with one to bring in the tying run, then delgado homers to win it?? i mean, c'mon that deserves the main attention.shea stadium is a rowdy damn place too. i never thought it was that rowdy.

That is such an insult to every dude out there who has no interest in cheating and happens to be a good ballplayer. I know I'll never cheat, and had I fulfilled the dream of becoming a pitcher for the Red Sox, I wouldn't suddenly change my morals.

is it just morals that stop you? or love for yr wife/gf?

i don't mean to pick on you personally. it's just interesting the things that make ppl 'not cheat' ya know? because i think the 'temptation' is always there. that's why monogamy is essentially hard for people because it's not natural. not in most cases. but who has the cool heart and head for open relationships? i know i don't.

No, no. I just meant "change the way I am"--which is that I love my girlfriend and wouldn't cheat on her. I know what you mean, and I have written extensively on this. I hate when people do things because of "what the Bible tells them" or some crap like that. In the case of cheating, though, I just wouldn't do it, so it really has nothing to do with my girlfriend. It's not like if, say, we got in a fight, I'd say, Well, I'll cheat on her then. It's just something I don't do.

I once heard about a law in Michigan that would punish cheaters. And I thought, So, people won't cheat, because they're afraid of breaking the law? Don't they care about the heart they're breaking? So I know exactly what you mean. I just "don't cheat"--and call that "my morals," I guess--because I couldn't do that to someone. If I wanted to suddenly be with someone else, I'd end the relationship I was currently in. And, no, I've never even done that...

Jere - I suppose I should acknowledge that I'm exaggerating a bit when I say *every* pro athlete messes around (I don't know them personally, after all). But let's face it, rich guys, away from home a lot, frequently surrounded by alcohol and groupies... you don't need to be Ramachandran to do that math. Heck, no less of an authority than Jose Canseco says that Roger Clemens is the ONLY player he's ever known who hasn't cheated on his wife. Which is probably also an exaggeration, but my point is it happens a lot.

Lastly - and I know this isn't the same situation we're discussing with ballplayers, but - I couldn't help but think of Dan Savage's column(s) on the topic of cheating, and why it might be okay sometimes. It's just one of those things that's easy to condemn until you're in a situation you didn't think you'd be in. :/ Just food for thought.

No, no. I just meant "change the way I am"--which is that I love my girlfriend and wouldn't cheat on her.

ok. yeah i guess 'morals' can mean lots of things that are personal and not necessarily 'society'-based.

I hate when people do things because of "what the Bible tells them" or some crap like that.

same. it seems so retarded and unintelligent, yet people do it everyday. make yr own religion, i say.

I once heard about a law in Michigan that would punish cheaters. And I thought, So, people won't cheat, because they're afraid of breaking the law? Don't they care about the heart they're breaking? So I know exactly what you mean.

koo :) yeah, that's totally what i was saying. like...don't just...do something (or don't) cause someone else says so. do whatever, but as long as it's in accordance with yr own heart.