I am hoping the new OC has KISS as his foundation for the up-tempo offense he's bringing to the locker room

I'm fine with that as long as it is KISS without the makup.

04-27-2014, 01:31 PM

keyofgmen

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Originally Posted by RoanokeFan

I am hoping the new OC has KISS as his foundation for the up-tempo offense he's bringing to the locker room

How about somewhere between KISS and WTFAISTDN?

04-27-2014, 02:06 PM

BParcells777

I am solidly behind Ruben Randle.....he is a Stud, was a high draft choice and I expect this to be his breakout year

04-27-2014, 02:16 PM

brad

It is valid to worry about RR as the #1 receiver, but it always amazes me how some seem to feel that you must have the best of everything at every position in order to win. RR has proven himself to be a very capable receiver, as has Cruz. JJ really came on at the end of the season. It's not always about the individual, but the sum of the parts. How they all work together in this new offense, and how well the O-line protects Eli will have a far bigger impact on the offense than trying to find the next Rice.

IMO, a lot of people are basing their opinions about RR on the streak and read system, rather than the system he is now being asked to play in. RR has big play talent, but he hasn't shown that he was able to fully grasp the KG system. The new system, IMO, highlights his physical ability while minimizing his mental deficiencies.

04-27-2014, 02:29 PM

jomo

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Originally Posted by brad

It is valid to worry about RR as the #1 receiver, but it always amazes me how some seem to feel that you must have the best of everything at every position in order to win. RR has proven himself to be a very capable receiver, as has Cruz. JJ really came on at the end of the season. It's not always about the individual, but the sum of the parts. How they all work together in this new offense, and how well the O-line protects Eli will have a far bigger impact on the offense than trying to find the next Rice.

IMO, a lot of people are basing their opinions about RR on the streak and read system, rather than the system he is now being asked to play in. RR has big play talent, but he hasn't shown that he was able to fully grasp the KG system. The new system, IMO, highlights his physical ability while minimizing his mental deficiencies.

Good points all around. If I could have a stud OL or WR (we can't always have both), I'd take the OL but we will need another capable receiver. It is too unrealistic to think that we will both avoid the injury bug AND Manningham will be healthy enough to play this year.

04-27-2014, 02:35 PM

BParcells777

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Originally Posted by brad

It is valid to worry about RR as the #1 receiver, but it always amazes me how some seem to feel that you must have the best of everything at every position in order to win. RR has proven himself to be a very capable receiver, as has Cruz. JJ really came on at the end of the season. It's not always about the individual, but the sum of the parts. How they all work together in this new offense, and how well the O-line protects Eli will have a far bigger impact on the offense than trying to find the next Rice.

IMO, a lot of people are basing their opinions about RR on the streak and read system, rather than the system he is now being asked to play in. RR has big play talent, but he hasn't shown that he was able to fully grasp the KG system. The new system, IMO, highlights his physical ability while minimizing his mental deficiencies.

Et Tu........look at what Brady does every year with a revolving door of mediocre receivers.........what we really need is accuracy from Eli.....not Brady accuracy, but along those lines

04-27-2014, 03:02 PM

BigBlue1971

we'll have to wait and see with Randle. hes had flashes but he lacked consistency but it wasn't all his fault, Eli had a lot to do with that.

if he can just improve over last season he'll be good. with Cruz already there and JJs hopeful emergence into stardom, Randle should be an important cog.

I do believe the Giants will draft a wide receiver, possibly the 2nd round.

04-27-2014, 03:03 PM

BParcells777

I think the Giants should target the real "issue" and trade down to get Johnny Football

04-27-2014, 03:10 PM

brad

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Originally Posted by jomo

Good points all around. If I could have a stud OL or WR (we can't always have both), I'd take the OL but we will need another capable receiver. It is too unrealistic to think that we will both avoid the injury bug AND Manningham will be healthy enough to play this year.

Agreed... another big play receiver would be nice, but it is a luxury more-so than a necessity. The offensive line is much more of a priority in both the passing and the run game, and has a bigger impact on the success of the offense as a whole. Depending on how the draft plays out, getting a stud DL or OL in the early rounds and a capable receiver in rounds 3 or 4, might be the better move for the team as a whole.

04-27-2014, 03:11 PM

JB456

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Originally Posted by Nassib

He's done some good things for us as a WR.

I actually like Randle like and have high hopes for him but if Cruz doesn't have confidence in Randle, why should anyone else?