No. Quite frankly, I believe he should be water-boarded until he gives up everything and everyone. Once data is confirmed and it is believed he has nothing more to offer he should be shot by a firing squad for treason.

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I agree with you regarding extracting all the information we feel is necessary to hopefully prevent this in the future. He's an American citizen but a naturalized not born here and a Muslim too. What ethnic group is our biggest threat these days commiting atrocities daily around the world ? Being tried by a civilain court might not do it.

It is a shame we have open arms to any immigrants from repressive government countries and even fund part of their education here. I feel that irrespective of intensive background checks, many can be Manchurian Candidates or even if they truly love our way of life, terrorist groups then tell them they will kill their family members back home if they don’t participate in a Jihad against us.

The Quran says that if people do not believe in Islam and will not convert, they must be killed. One might consider me extremely one sided prejudiced towards Arabs/Muslims. I know that all religions were not free of sin. Yes, in the inqusition centuries ago many who did not convert to Christianity were tortured. Then there were the Jews killed by the Romans. But, in my opinion, this is not comparing Apples to Apples. What crimes have been committed in the name of Christianity in the last 1000 years or so as we have become more civilized. Nazism was more world domination by a supposed superior race than a religious war, albeit the Russians were Communists, but France, Britain, USA etc. were mostly Christians and Catholics as were many Germans.

I feel the death penalty is too merciful as they are willing to blow themselves up because they believe 72 virgins await them makes them feel they are being rewarded serving Allah. I’m afraid that our legal system will insist he be psychologically examined to determine if he is insane and can't be tried. Heck, some might feel he can be rehabed and become a voter and taxpayer. (HA!) I believe that any method possible, psychological torture, and physical, waterboarding etc. is necessary to determine what was their motive beyond a continuing Jihad toward Westerners so that we can ascertain if there were more people (groups) and Cells too in the USA waiting for the next atrocity. I would keep him in prison & deny his Muslim rights & torture him thus…feed him pork and alcohol for beverages & let him pray to Mecca using his bed’s blanket as a carpet. If he doesn’t eat and starves to death, so be it but, this is the treatment after we have extracted our needed information.

But, I am really not seeking an “eye for an eye” physical torture regardless of their barbarism with the desire to kill innocents, children & women, with nails & pellets which is more than a sick mind. Do we of the West behead, drag our victims through the streets, hang bodies from bridges, make women wear veils, torture by stoning & other horrific methods if they can’t bear children. They even delight in slowly torturing animals. Yup, many of our young military will have their lives affected with dishonorable discharges by doing a college type prank of urinating on dead prisoners bodies perhaps after a dear friend died in a road side bomb or suicide vest. What diversion sport do they have ? They like soccer but another is from horseback like Polo but they bat a headless goat carcass through a goal. Sure happy we got baseball, football, basketball etc. etc.

Here’s what might happen if there is another incident like this on our soil as the 9/11 using planes as missles has evolved into intensive sometimes annoying body searches prior to boarding, former military as air marshals and cockpit doors closed. As a result, fortunately there has been no reoccurence. We may have to incarcerate Muslims, perhaps some native born who attended Harvard & Stanford even, as we did the Japanese in WW2. Drastic measure yes indeed and maybe 99% of the people are completely innocent. What is needed is for Muslims(Arabs & others) even at the fear of reprisals, to step up to the plate & divulge where they know, if they do, where there are Cells in the US !!!

CNN with their learned staff and panels have discussed the topic of this thread pro and con many times. One goes to CNN to hear knowledgeable people articulate the facts about such issues. You don't tune in CNN to get baseball news about the Boston Red Sox. Likewise, you don't come here to discuss politics since this is a baseball forum.

No. Quite frankly, I believe he should be water-boarded until he gives up everything and everyone. Once data is confirmed and it is believed he has nothing more to offer he should be shot by a firing squad for treason.

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I agree with you regarding extracting all the information we feel is necessary to hopefully prevent this in the future. He's an American citizen but a naturalized not born here and a Muslim too. What ethnic group is our biggest threat these days commiting atrocities daily around the world ? Being tried by a civilain court might not do it.

It is a shame we have open arms to any immigrants from repressive government countries and even fund part of their education here. I feel that irrespective of intensive background checks, many can be Manchurian Candidates or even if they truly love our way of life, terrorist groups then tell them they will kill their family members back home if they don’t participate in a Jihad against us.

The Quran says that if people do not believe in Islam and will not convert, they must be killed. One might consider me extremely one sided prejudiced towards Arabs/Muslims. I know that all religions were not free of sin. Yes, in the inqusition centuries ago many who did not convert to Christianity were tortured. Then there were the Jews killed by the Romans. But, in my opinion, this is not comparing Apples to Apples. What crimes have been committed in the name of Christianity in the last 1000 years or so as we have become more civilized. Nazism was more world domination by a supposed superior race than a religious war, albeit the Russians were Communists, but France, Britain, USA etc. were mostly Christians and Catholics as were many Germans.

I feel the death penalty is too merciful as they are willing to blow themselves up because they believe 72 virgins await them makes them feel they are being rewarded serving Allah. I’m afraid that our legal system will insist he be psychologically examined to determine if he is insane and can't be tried. Heck, some might feel he can be rehabed and become a voter and taxpayer. (HA!) I believe that any method possible, psychological torture, and physical, waterboarding etc. is necessary to determine what was their motive beyond a continuing Jihad toward Westerners so that we can ascertain if there were more people (groups) and Cells too in the USA waiting for the next atrocity. I would keep him in prison & deny his Muslim rights & torture him thus…feed him pork and alcohol for beverages & let him pray to Mecca using his bed’s blanket as a carpet. If he doesn’t eat and starves to death, so be it but, this is the treatment after we have extracted our needed information.

But, I am really not seeking an “eye for an eye” physical torture regardless of their barbarism with the desire to kill innocents, children & women, with nails & pellets which is more than a sick mind. Do we of the West behead, drag our victims through the streets, hang bodies from bridges, make women wear veils, torture by stoning & other horrific methods if they can’t bear children. They even delight in slowly torturing animals. Yup, many of our young military will have their lives affected with dishonorable discharges by doing a college type prank of urinating on dead prisoners bodies perhaps after a dear friend died in a road side bomb or suicide vest. What diversion sport do they have ? They like soccer but another is from horseback like Polo but they bat a headless goat carcass through a goal. Sure happy we got baseball, football, basketball etc. etc.

Here’s what might happen if there is another incident like this on our soil as the 9/11 using planes as missles has evolved into intensive sometimes annoying body searches prior to boarding, former military as air marshals and cockpit doors closed. As a result, fortunately there has been no reoccurence. We may have to incarcerate Muslims, perhaps some native born who attended Harvard & Stanford even, as we did the Japanese in WW2. Drastic measure yes indeed and maybe 99% of the people are completely innocent. What is needed is for Muslims(Arabs & others) even at the fear of reprisals, to step up to the plate & divulge where they know, if they do, where there are Cells in the US !!!

There are about as many Muslims as Catholic. They are mainly piece loving. No Muslim is required to kill Jews and Christians. A jihad is just a personal struggle towards godliness. To prevent Muslims from getting citizenship like Softy wants and to intern them like you want is so unAmerican. On top of that it would only fuel terrorism since it would show that the US hates Islam, which is what they are selling to young people.

Funny how all the strict Consitutionalist are ready to drop it so quickly when it suits their agenda.

i was ready to type this in this thread. exactly Moon.

Listen folks, no American in their right mind thinks anything but horror at what these 2 kids/men did. but to take away their rights as American citizens is exactly what we shouldnt do. many have died over the years since we have become a nation to protect these freedoms for us. to turn our backs on these freedoms is an insult to those that have given their lives, limbs, sanity for them. even if these freedoms seem to "protect" these 2 citizens from unconstitutional acts.

the kid in Aurora killed more US citizens and we have no problem with his miranda rights.

This putting .NOT. after positive statements to make them negative. Did all twenty of you go see that movie together in Carnie's schoolbus? Are is it mob behavior or a Pied Piper , monkey see, monkey do - syndrome? The other explanation is multiple monikers . Great movie, right guys?

How about the use by the of word "Jabroni"? Are you wrestling fans also? Do you take that seriously? How is it possible that all in a sudden one day that ten of you started insulting others by calling them a Jabroni? Some coincidence.