So they didn't add Ogres as a playable race because they didn't know how females should look?

And this is why Blizzard rarely answer important questions, because people like you take what they say entirely out of context.

Nowhere in that answer is there a hint of them saying "the reason we didn't make ogres playable was because we can't make a female", what they are saying is that's how far along in the design process they got before they decided to add Goblins instead.

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The game would have been so much better if it wasn't for the old school lore enthusiasts. I mean, games and art evolve, while archetypes like ogres or other models in older Warcraft games are looking dull and ugly.

The game would have been so much better if it wasn't for the old school lore enthusiasts. I mean, games and art evolve, while archetypes like ogres or other models in older Warcraft games are looking dull and ugly.

The game would have been so much better if it wasn't for the old school lore enthusiasts. I mean, games and art evolve, while archetypes like ogres or other models in older Warcraft games are looking dull and ugly.

So when George Lucas has Star Wars evolve from "Empire Strikes Back" to "The Phantom Menace", you would defend that because things must evolve, and anyone who complains about the new direction are the problem because they are old school lore enthusiasts? You would defend the creation of Jar Jar Binks are new art and the next evolution of Star Wars, and anyone who dislikes Jar Jar is suffering from nostalgia perhaps?

This is how the design process works, you come up with bunch of idea's and you exclude them for some reason at some point.

Often the idea's that where played around during the design process get leaked somewhere in the middle, piss of some people till the company decides to put a stop to this (like the whole integrated CPU/motherboard form intel where people only learned half the truth)

It's a fact: the ogres will be a playable race for the Horde eventually. Moreover, the right time for its introduction is the next expansion: the back to Outland, planet of the ogres.

And most interesting is undoubtedly the introduction of the Alliance race that would be the counterpart to the ogres, I refer of course to the high elves.

In the next expansion with the return of Alleria, the High Elves have every chance of being the playable race that the Alliance has been waiting so long ...

I honestly don't see High Elves being a playable race all on their own.

At the most, I imagine Blizzard removing the "Night Elf" option and just making an "Elves" option. Then you get to pick from your desired sub-race. That's how High Elves would be playable. Having them as an entire race is quite silly, in my opinion. You might love but I can promise the overwhelming response would be "WTF Blizzard?! Why do Alliance get Blood elves now?! Do we need more Elves?!". It's sad but it's more likely to happen than you think.

I would personally love the horde to get Ogres. I'd probably never level one, but they'd be a great addition to the games variety and the suit the horde to the ground. Female ogres aren't hard to imagine at all.

Ogres could be Warriors, Warlocks, Mages, Shaman, Hunters, Monk?

The Alliance could get something like the Tu'anka or High Elves maybe?

I would personally love the horde to get Ogres. I'd probably never level one, but they'd be a great addition to the games variety and the suit the horde to the ground. Female ogres aren't hard to imagine at all.

Ogres could be Warriors, Warlocks, Mages, Shaman, Hunters, Monk?

The Alliance could get something like the Tu'anka or High Elves maybe?

Do you mean the Taunka? If so, they're allies of the Horde.

Also, Blizzard has pretty much explicitly denied adding high elves. Too little to distinguish them from the other elves.

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Well seeing as how Pandaren were suppose to be the Alliance race in Bc before Draenei I would say Ogers are definitely going to become playable at some point. I mean really what he said was the only thing that stopped them from releasing Ogers in Cata was the fact that they didn't have any real ground work for what the Females would look like.

I think its fair to say that they have had a good bit of time now to figure out what the Females might look like.

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Originally Posted by Chrysia

Do you mean the Taunka? If so, they're allies of the Horde.

Also, Blizzard has pretty much explicitly denied adding high elves. Too little to distinguish them from the other elves.

Blizzard has denied a lot of different idea's before but that hasn't stopped them from going back on those statements. So you never really know. Pandaren being multi-faction is something most people wouldn't have expected before MoP and actually makes something like High Elves more possible.

Well seeing as how Pandaren were suppose to be the Alliance race in Bc before Draenei I would say Ogers are definitely going to become playable at some point. I mean really what he said was the only thing that stopped them from releasing Ogers in Cata was the fact that they didn't have any real ground work for what the Females would look like.

I think its fair to say that they have had a good bit of time now to figure out what the Females might look like.

Considering the artists they have working with them, I'm certain they could come up with a pretty good female Ogre form

Originally Posted by nyc81991

Blizzard has denied a lot of different idea's before but that hasn't stopped them from going back on those statements. So you never really know. Pandaren being multi-faction is something most people wouldn't have expected before MoP and actually makes something like High Elves more possible.

No, the Taunka should never be anything but a Horde race. They are literally just Tauren from the North lol

I think he was speaking more towards the second bit, about the High Elves.

The main issue with high elves is the overall idea of "identify by silhouette" has been one of the most consistent things about WoW. How do you make a high elf distinct from a night elf or blood elf?

Ah, I quoted before the bit about High Elves was added in, my bad

High Elves only really work as a sub-race in my opinion. As I said previously:

"At the most, I imagine Blizzard removing the "Night Elf" option and just making an "Elves" option. Then you get to pick from your desired sub-race. That's how High Elves would be playable. Having them as an entire race is quite silly, in my opinion. You might love them but I can promise the overwhelming response would be "WTF Blizzard?! Why do Alliance get Blood elves now?!" or "Do we need more Elves?!". It's sad but it's more likely to happen than you think."

High Elves only really work as a sub-race in my opinion. As I said previously:

"At the most, I imagine Blizzard removing the "Night Elf" option and just making an "Elves" option. Then you get to pick from your desired sub-race. That's how High Elves would be playable. Having them as an entire race is quite silly, in my opinion. You might love them but I can promise the overwhelming response would be "WTF Blizzard?! Why do Alliance get Blood elves now?!" or "Do we need more Elves?!". It's sad but it's more likely to happen than you think."

And rightfully so. It would be shameful for Blizzard to basically re-use Blood Elves, make them a slight bit different look like High Elves, and call it a new race, as opposed to something new.

If anything, the best way to do it is to turn Blood Elves into a neutral race, and another Alliance race into a neutral race, and make them be one or the other depending on what faction you choose.

remain High Elves <--Alliance-- High Elves --Horde--> become Blood Elves.

Could even be a starting zone set in the past to go with it. Would be pretty sweet, and it wouldn't be advertised as "A BRAND NEW RACE".