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More York streets to get 20mph limits

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Caecilius wrote:

notpedallingpaul wrote:

bloodaxe wrote:
Given that the standard of driving in York is deplorable: grilling red lights, speeding in 30 zones, ignoring pedestrian crossings, passing parked cars and crossing white lines in the face of oncoming traffic, parking on the pavement and cutting cyclists rather than slowing down because of oncoming traffic then any move which helps to make the life of cyclists, pedestrians and other road users safer is to be encouraged. As the time &quot;saved" on urban journeys by driving as quickly as possible is negligible then I'll go with this. Anyway, it was in the manifesto, so further consultation is unnecessary. I speak as a two-car owner, cyclist and pedestrian, though I only drive one car at a time. Don't waste time marking this down, it's a foregone conclusion.

What parts of york do you drive in?, I certainly don't recognise it and I drive most days, do you think you are over egging the pudding some what?, as for the 20's plenty I will not even bother to comment!

I suggest you don't recognise it because you don't want to. I see the behaviour that bloodaxe is describing on a daily basis. Nearly every day, there's a report in the Press of one or more RTAs in this area - why do you think the majority of them happen?

Rubbish, rubbish and more rubbish, another one who over eggs the pudding, if it was as bad as you describe then most people wouldn't venture out of the house, your probably like Anna '20's plenty' who once got knocked off her bike so the storey goes, you've probably had a similar experience and now blame car drivers in the main, as I said I drive most days and I don't see the many road traffic accidents you witness, if it's as bad as you claim it to be then the majority of your time must be taken up giving statements to the police."

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STREETS in the east of York will join the city-wide 20 mph speed limit as the programme is rolled out in coming weeks.

City of York Council has announced that residents in the east of the city will be the next to get leaflets telling them about the upcoming change in their areas.

The policy started in the west of the city before being rolled out in the north this April. The council's ruling Labour group says widespread 20 mph limits will make the streets safer and more accessible for pedestrians and cyclists.

It was included in the 2011 Labour manifesto for York but has faced criticism since its inception and last year it was revealed that only seven residents out of 13,000 surveyed in a public consultation had voiced support for the policy.

Cllr David Levene, cabinet member for transport, said: "Introducing these speed limits aims to create an environment where traffic is travelling under 20mph, alongside and complementing our existing programme of targeted accident reduction measures.

"This will help improve the local environment of neighbourhoods for residents: replacing the mish-mash we have at the moment with a consistent, clearly understandable approach to promote more considerate driving."

And although North Yorkshire Police have spoken in favour of lower speed limits in residents streets, the scheme has been branded costly and ineffective by Labour's political opponents.

Both Conservative leader Chris Steward and Liberal Democrat leader Keith Aspden say they support 20 mphs limits in some areas but condemned the blanket approach being taken in York.

Cllr Steward said: "Although we continue to support 20mph schemes where residents back them, this continues not to be the case in York where the blanket approach does not enjoy popular support and is merely a vast unnecessary cost when the money could be better spent elsewhere.

"Unfortunately one of the real problems of the blanket zones is they also lessen the impact where the restrictions are most needed – including at schools"

Cllr Aspden added: "The council’s proposals would see 20mph limits on the vast majority of local roads, even narrow cul-de-sacs where cars would struggle to reach 20mph.

“I am not convinced it is an effective use of resources and residents will be concerned about signs being put everywhere, including in Fulford’s conservation area.”

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