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Sunday, December 09, 2012

REPARATIVE THERAPY FOR HOMOSEXUALITY: A CONSTRUCTED CONVERSATION

By @azigra

The Southern Poverty Law Center: "Conversion therapy has been discredited or highly criticized by all major American medical, psychiatric, psychological and professional counseling organizations.The cost of conversion therapy to gay men and lesbians may be nothing less than emotional devastation. They may spend years recovering from the trauma inflicted upon them."

VIN commentator "Truth": "It's actually organizations like JONAH that want them to be able to live in the next world!"Chaim Levin: "I grew up in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, in the religious orthodox community and when I was 17 I was aware of the fact I was gay, I was attracted to other men and I was hopeless, so when I came across this organization JONAHit was wonderfulbecause the philosophy I grew up with was that human desires can be overcome, any desire"VIN commentator"inNY": "So all these gays who keep on complaining, become a GOY and do what u like, but our Torah says clearly Gay is an Isur Deoraias. The fact is the Jewish gay community has no answer to that."

Michael Fergeson: "Among the bizarre exercises I participated in [at JONAH] I was part of a group that formed a human barricade and on the other side of that were a pair of oranges meant to represent another man's testicles and there was a participant in the exercise who was supposed to break through the barricade and grab the oranges and was instructed to squeeze them and drink the juice from them and shove them down his pants"

VIN commentator"raizy":"Though the methods used for this particular therapy may be questionable, even harmful, there is much to be said about undergoing therapy for SSA."

Chaim Levin: "During my last session with the councilor at JONAH on JONAH's premises the councilor who is unlicensed he goes by the term life coach, he is not licences by the APA or the AMA, he basically manipulated me into taking my clothes off in front of a mirror [behind] a locked door with him and then he insisted that I fondle myself"

VIN commentator "Truth": "And there are plenty of success stories in conversion therapy. No psychotherapy is 100% effective. The libs in this country are trying to outlaw this like in California. Why? Because the libs believe in thought control. "How dare you disagree with those that now say Homosexuality isn't a mental illness?"

Benjamin Unger: "I spoke to Arthur Goldberg who was the director of JONAH and I asked him about JONAH and he said straight out we can turn you from gay to straight....you can be from homosexual all the way to heterosexual, and I was ecstatic, I said wow the cure is here I finally found it."

VIN commentator "Anonymous": "Were they forced into this? Did they pay for it and are not happy with the result so they want their money back?.....More headline grabbing by activist gays and shyster attorneys......What is it about the gay mentality that they have to always fight and be in the news?"

Benjamin Unger: “During my time with JONAH, they told me constantly that my mom had made me gay. I was so convinced that I refused to have any contact with her for several months, which caused a great deal of damage to our relationship.” -

VIN commentator "Anonymous":"They should suffer their condition quietly and leave the rest of the world alone."

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רֹאשׁ דְּבָרְךָ אֱמֶת קוֹרֵא מֵרֹאשׁ דּוֹר וָדוֹר עַם דּוֹרֶשְׁךָ דְּרֹשׁ
Your chief word is "truth"; You've called it out since the beginning. In each generation people interpret You [for themselves] and find [their own] meaning.

You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you odd. -Flannery O'Connor

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