Brees says Saints’ offense will thrive outdoors

Posted by Michael David Smith on January 8, 2012, 8:08 AM EDT

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The Saints’ offense lit up the Superdome on Saturday night against the Lions, but to get to the Super Bowl the Saints will have to win outdoors at San Francisco next week, and probably at Green Bay the week after that. So will the Saints struggle in the elements?

Drew Brees says no way: New Orleans isn’t just a dome team.

“I feel like our offense and our team is built for whatever condition,” Brees said after Saturday night’s game. “We feel like we’re the type of team that should be able to go anywhere, anytime, and play our type of football.”

The Saints went 3-2 outdoors during the regular season, winning at Jacksonville, Carolina and Tennessee, and losing at Green Bay and at Tampa Bay. Inside, the Saints have gone 11-1, winning their nine home games and at Minnesota and Atlanta, and losing in by far their worst performance of the season at St. Louis.

The 49ers have the best defense the Saints have faced, so if the Saints’ offense is slowed down on Saturday, that will have more to do with the 49ers’ personnel than with their outdoor field. The biggest challenge ahead for the Saints isn’t playing outdoors, it’s needing to beat two good teams before they can get back inside at the Super Bowl.

We will find out soon. One thing is for sure….SF will not drop 3 potential INTs like the Lions. Brees is great, but he does give the D opportunities to take the ball away. The Lions led by their miserable crybaby coach let him off the hook multiple times last night with their hands of stone.

Feeling the Saints offense can play in any conditions is not the same as doing it. They have a ton of weapons for one of the game’s best QBs with a good offensive coaching staff. So they are certainly capable.

But, as they say, the games are not played on paper. My crystal ball is broken so I’ll have to wait until the weekend to see what happens.

The Saints are good but a very different team outside the dome and I would like to hear why the announcers rave about Williams the defensive coach of the Saints, the Packers might not win but Rodgers will eat up they defense as the Saints will lite up the Packer backs.

Sure, whatever. Bree’s arm is average and his passes can be affected by the wind. Receivers can slip when they come out of breaks and let wet, slippery footballs go through their fingers. There is a reason the saints lost to the worst playoff team ever last year and it goes deeper than not tackling Lynch. That’s why Rodgers is the MVP, he put up his numbers while playing the majority of his games outside.

I like the 49ers in this game.
Saints have not faced a defense that can harass the QB and make plays in the secondary like the Niners do.
I also like the Niners chances of running the ball on the Saints defense and I think they will definitely win the turnover battle.

Well, it is hard to see how the Saints get slowed here, but this game should finally put to rest the debate about weather a championship type defense of the past decade (the 49ers) can wins Super Bowls in this period of offensive dominance. I have watched a lot of football this season, and the 49ers defense is consistently the best one in the league. But man, Brees just makes it look so easy. One thing that really stood out last night was the Lions going after the ball. I think it goes without saying, but going for the ball against the Saints is a really good idea. Ivory is going to have a big fumble before these playoffs are over. The other guys don’t take great care of it either. It’s hard to get Brees to make the big mistakes so mine as well try to make them with the other guys once they have the ball in there hand. Hope its a good game.

To be fair, for starters, you seem to be ignoring that game in Seattle last year. I am pretty sure Brees was the QB, and it was outdoors, and it was the playoffs. Don’t you just hate when you try to clown someone for not knowing their facts, but you look like a dummy because YOU don’t have your facts right? I know I sure do.

Ummm…..yeah ok.
0-4 outdoors in playoff games,well if you can’t beat them with brilliance then baffle them with bulls**t Drew.

Idiot,
As Saints QB, Brees is 1 – 1 outdoors. The loss was in the ice and snow in Chicago and the win was the Super Bowl in Miami so get YOUR BS facts straight
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I don’t know which one is the idiot and really don’t care…but didn’t Marshawn Lynch run over the saints last year outdoors……wait I do know who the idiot is the one who can’t remember the seahawks lost to Chicago last year not the Saints.

If Brees is allowed to hangout and basically camp behind his offense line like he did versus lions yesterday then NO defense will be able to stop them, he can simply stand there,pump fake 5 or 6 times till someone gets open. Unfortunately for the Saints, the 9ers actually have a defense front that will put pressure on him, hit him and sack him. Brees’s #’s were amazing for sure, but the fact he faced almost no pressure made it very easy to pick apart a overmatched defense in the second half. To beat the saints you MUST hit Brees in the mouth and put him down on the ground every chance you get.

Cold weather favors running the ball and stopping the run. The saints have gb hand over fist in both categories. Asses whooped in week 1? Randall cobb had the luckiest kr td ever. His teammate caught him from falling. Can’t wait for a rematch.

Aaron Rodgers 3 year average in weather below 32 degrees: 60% comp, 233 yds, 2td 1 int. Good but not great, and The Saints have a running game which The Packers do not have. So, If The Saints and The Packers survive next week, should make for an interesting game

So the #2 ranked offense can’t beat the #30 ranked defense? What are we grasping at straws here?

It comes down to who creates more turnovers. Statistics prove that your QB throws more INTs.

Sorry to burst your bubble Saints fans, after what you felt was an overwhelming impressive win at home against a team that was lit up for 500 yards and 6 TDs by a backup the previous week, but once you play someone on your own level, you’ll quickly find out the saints aren’t world beaters.

Hey emoney826 I’d rather put money on 1 over 32 than 2 over 30. Statistics proove we run better, protect the ball better, and protect the Qbs better. Cant wait. And oh we didn’t give up 41 to the lions or 500 to stafford.

Man the Saints haters are out in full force this morning. Facts are facts were the hottest team in the league right now. 9 straight wins, 5 wins againts 3 playoff teams, and not to forget about a 9-7 Titans team who I beleive mirrors the 9ers style of a team to a T. So you know what? Go ahead and hate, but when were raising that Lombardi in Indy in Feb just remember the Who Dat Nation told you so. Who Dat?!?

The biggest challenge ahead for the Saints isn’t playing outdoors, it’s needing to beat two good teams before they can get back inside at the Super Bowl.
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You homers can thumbs down stats all you want. Sf looks no more equipped than Det to slow down Brees and the saints
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And we know Det faced brees Rodgers and an on fire Flynn in the regular season while sf had Tavaris twice the rams twice and the cardinals twice. No saints or packers. Hmmm

Well if I’m a Saints fan I would be worried, remember going to Seattle last year. That team sucked, and now you have to go to 49ers whose a much better team. Yes the Saints might be able to put up the 28 points outdoors but can the defense keep the 49ers from scoring 30. Guess will see next week. Looking forward to it

It gets funnier as time goes by… in ’09 New England was supposed to bring us back to reality (Saints win 38-17 and Belichick and Brady were reduced to looking at each other with that “deer in the headlights” look). Then Indy was supposed to bring us back to reality in the SB (Saints win 31-17). Now San Francisco is gonna bring us back to reality. I’m gonna tell you the same thing I told Lions fans, just be happy being relevant in January again. Saints win 34-20, as Alex Smith will get a garbage time TD pass.

Now that the Saints got rid of the jv team at home the time has come to hit the road and run the gauntlet of varsity teams in the fresh air stadiums and hostile environments,can they win against very good teams on the road,I will believe it only when I see it happen on my tv set.

If you want to talk trash it’s expected. When your Qb’s name is Alex Smith I think you should probably tone it down a bit.

To those of you thinking Frank Gore is going to go off you’ve got another thing coming.

Just ask Michael Turner, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson and practically every other good running back in the last 8 weeks how that’s faired.

Until yesterday the Saints were rarely allowing more than 17 points per game the 49ers think 17 points is an offensive explosion.

It’s going to be partly cloudy with a high of 60 and little to no chance of rain. Unless someone forgets to the cut the grass this week San Fran has an uphill battle.

Vegas line opened up in favor of the Saints (3.5) and will likely climb to 5 by game time. The 49ers are banged up at WR and have really no passing offense to speak of. If you think doing what you did all year is going to beat the Saints(run, run, pass, punt) you’ve got another thing coming.

The Saints run the ball better than any team in the playoffs coming in at 4.9 yards per carry and leaving the game last night averaging over 6. Detroit has a beast of a defensive line and the Saints dominated them the entire second half.

The 49ers defense isn’t as dominant as you fanboys like to think. You did get carved up by Skelton after all. Big Ben threw for over 300 yards on one leg and Eli Manning didn’t seem to struggle moving the ball threw the air.

So believe me when I say Drew Brees is 100% in what he is saying. The Saints can beat you on the ground or threw the air. As good as Willis and Bowman are neither of them will be able to handle Sproles/Graham in the open field.

If you want to mention the couple of passes Drew Brees could of had intercepted then you also need to mention the ball that Colston fumbled, the touchdown pass at the end of the half that Colston dropped, the wide open would be touchdown that Meachem dropped. So in reality even had every ball been caught on offense or defense the score would of been higher in the Saints favor. And they took a knee at the two yard line. 60 points wasn’t out of the question last night.

So in closing think about this…The Saints run the ball better than the 49ers, they pass the ball better than the 49ers and they stop the run. So can Alex Smith out duel Drew Brees? Highly unlikely.

nfl4life87 says
I’m not concerned about the Saints offense, I’m concerned about the same Saints defense that went up to Seattle and had 41 points put on them. We will see.
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Not the same defense either.. Franklin and Rogers weren’t with the team last year and they’re a big part of why we have stopped the run this year. Also a healthy Jenkins, and emerging Dunbar, and solid LB depth with rookies Wilson and Humber make this a different defense than the one that went to Seattle last year.

@nfllife if you want to worry about the ’10 saints against the ’11 niners dream on. Besides last year 49ers were at home not in the playoffs so why are you bringing up last year lol. The game is ’11 saints against ’11 49ers. Johnnyb your mom obviously never loved you.

The most annoying thing to me is all the “surface” analysis that we get from the national media. They spew the same stuff and love the same players. I’m not saying I know a lot more, I don’t. But I at least like to think about these things.

Here’s a handful of my thoughts:

Detroit ran the ball only 10 times yesterday and got slaughtered in time of possession (NO had the ball for almost 2/3 of the game.) You can’t do that against NO. There’s no way SF runs the ball under 25 times. More likely 30 – 35.

Megatron made Stafford look a lot better than he was as a number of those passes were very high risk.

SF won’t drop 3 interceptions and won’t be missing all those tackles. And they are a much better coached / more disciplined team.

NO’s road numbers are not as good as home – but NO may be worse on the road than the numbers indicate. They had a ridiculously easy road schedule this year with trips to Jacksonville, St. Louis, TB and Carolina (and they somehow lost 2 of those 5 games).

SF allows something like 10 ppg at home. They have had a historically good year on defense but no one in the national media seems care because its happening in the same year as QBs are also torching records.

I wouldn’t want any part of the 49ers if I was putting together a playoff run. They have a nasty history of knocking out players.

Its going to be a great game. I expect SF to punch New Orleans in the mouth in a way they haven’t been hit in a long time. If its the NO of the first half from last night, they will struggle mightily. If its the NO of the second half, they could win by two TDs.

This “new” gameplan of having two TE/H-Backs hanging out by the tackles to chip on the outside pass rush is code for the fact that the tackles are a big weakness that was exposed by the Rams. Aldon Smith should like that.

I’d expect a low-scoring 1st half. The question will come down to second half adjustments – Saints will need to hit a couple big plays and get into synch, I’d expect Harbaugh to have at least one trick play lined up. Vernon Davis will have to step up – SF will need at some point in the game to hit at least one, more likely two explosive plays. And that Saints defense, which relies so heavily on scheme and not talent is more likely to be exposed the more you see them. They’ll need turnovers against a team that tied for the last amount of turnovers since 1946.

I’d expect SF to easily win special teams and defense over NO, the question is how much can Drew Brees carry his team. I don’t know the answer. On the other end, how does Harbaugh deal with Smith – he generally handcuffs him unless the team is down late. And Smith has been solid late in games.

Malcolm Jenkins, as stated seriously can you read, Shaun Rogers, 49ers own Aubrayo franklin, cam Jordan, Martel Wilson, Johnny Patrick, isa Abdul quddus, Tom Johnson were all not with the team at seattle and now contribute significantly? Not the same team. Why do you ignoramuses think last year counts? We should just cancel the playoffs and crown gb. After all they won last year 😛

The Saints are a great team but if any team is going to stop them its the Niners @ home..Packers D cant stop them..The Niners D can hold the Saints offense by keeping them off the field,the Niners will run the ball down their throats with Gore and Hunter then hit play action all day to Vernon and Crabtree..Good game but Niners win 28-24

Rkab22 glad to see a 9ers fan who thinks if the saints play like they did in the second half against Det they will win. Sf only wins if they win turnovers significantly. We fumbled twice last night but less than any team in nfl history in the regular season. Some fools say Brees throws more passes a game that should be picked than other Qbs. 14 picks out of 657 passes ain’t chicken poop. He did break the nfl record for season completion percentage this year, but he also was the previous record holder so moot point I guess haha.

Rkab22 your analysis of the two h back set is on line but bushrod deserved his pro bowl nod with your staley. Streif is run blocker not a pass blocker but we put Charles brown from USC on ir. regardless of if your tackles need the help, what offense doesn’t chip with tes if they can pull it off?

I have accepted the fact that we are the most hated team in the league. If this were wrestling we’d be Ric Flair. Flair’s appeal was that people lined up to buy tickets in hopes their favorite would beat him. Didn’t happen often though. Expect the 49er fans to be crying in their cars this time next week…WOOOOO!!!

Rkab22 why do you easily give a special teams edge to sf? Morstead set nfl record for touchbacks (previously set the last time kickoffs were at the 35), kasay hasn’t missed inside of 40 since 1997 and has more 50 yarded than anyone in nfl history, saints have top 5 punt coverage unit, and sproles returning kicks and punts. I fail to see your conclusion.

The Saints aren’t protecting their tackles by chipping the ends. They use that tactic against teams with stout, pass rushing DTs. Not going to be a problem against San Fran. Bowman and Willis will be negated on A gap blitzes by the best guard tandem in the NFL.

Bushrod is a probowl left tackle that dominated the likes of Jared Allen, Abraham twice, Vanden Bosch twice, Pierre Paul and every other elite pass rusher he faced this year.

The Saints are the best team in the NFL at outscheming their opponent. Expect screens and swing passes to Aldon Smiths side in pass rushing situations.

The Saints defense can stop the run and the 49ers don’t have enough weapons to keep Roman Harper out of the box and wreaking havoc. The Saints are going to blitz Alex Smith more than anyone else has this year and we will see just how good the bus driver handles the Indy 500.

So go about questioning how good the Saints are on the road and I’ll question how good the 49ers are at all. Talent wise the Saints are better on defense than the 49ers are on offense.

The Saints can hold the 49ers under 17 points with a decent showing. Can the 49ers do the same? I doubt it.

The 2011 49ers are the 2010 SF Giants; great pitching and defense. The 9ers have great defense and special teams. Their style allows them to stay in every game, and they will be in this game. Their offense hits for enough average to quitely do the job. Whether its Alex throwing a 4th down, 4th Qtr. TD to win the game, Crabtree elevating along the sideline, Justin Smith forcing a fumble, or Akers hitting from 55, the 9ers find ways to get it done. They have the best locker room of any team and the guys run through walls for each other and coach Harbaugh. They do the little things right that makes losing hard.

I don’t believe that Brees & Co. care whether its indoors or not, but the defense does. The Saints D is the real issue when on the road. The 9ers are going to keep this close and seperate at the end. The 9ers use multiple sets and Harbaugh is one of the best play designers in the league. He is thinking about stuff he put on tape 8 weeks and how it sets up the Saints. Gregg Williams will be lost, no disrespect intended, Harbaugh is just better. Fangio has something for Brees as well.

I’m telling you something special is brewing in San Francisco and the whole country is about to find out! Don’t count the 9ers out just because they don’t look as pretty as the Saints, Packers, or Pats…all teams that barely play a spec of D and are simply more entertaining, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be beat.

Dan Marino threw for over 5,000 yards in 1984 and lost the Super Bowl to the 9ers 38-16.

jackntorres says:
Jan 8, 2012 11:35 AM
@nfllife if you want to worry about the ’10 saints against the ’11 niners dream on. Besides last year 49ers were at home not in the playoffs so why are you bringing up last year lol. The game is ’11 saints against ’11 49ers. Johnnyb your mom obviously never loved you.

jackntorres says:
Jan 8, 2012 11:45 AM
Nfllife

Malcolm Jenkins, as stated seriously can you read, Shaun Rogers, 49ers own Aubrayo franklin, cam Jordan, Martel Wilson, Johnny Patrick, isa Abdul quddus, Tom Johnson were all not with the team at seattle and now contribute significantly? Not the same team. Why do you ignoramuses think last year counts? We should just cancel the playoffs and crown gb. After all they won last year

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Wow, someone is definitely insecure about there team, good luck with the playoff game this week!! I’m sure all those new defensive players will help the Saints keep the 49ers offense off the field just like they did against the Ram’s in a dome. Nice story

@ jackntorres
Actually, my mother and I have a wonderful relationship and I would do anything for her. That goes for both of my parents actually. Not like your golden boy who can do no wrong. I consider myself a very lucky man for the parents I received. That’s probably why I have no respect for drew brees. He could obviously couldn’t have cared less about his mother after she raised him all his life. What kind if son sues their own mother? Not a very good one. Don’t worry though. I was fooled by brett Favre for years before I found out what he really was. It’s easy to believe something when you force yourself too.

As far as special teams go, if you think NO is better than SF, just look at the All Pro and Pro Bowl selections. Didn’t really think that was even up for debate. You gotta be fair at some point.

No need for ad hominems Danem. I get it you like your team and want them to win. Fighting on the internet about football was cool in like 1996.

I do think its certainly an interesting take to think that the team that is 29th in the NFL giving up 5.0 YPC on defense is going to be shutting anyone down.

If by “decent showing” you mean an average game, the Saints are giving up 21 points per game on average and the 49ers average 23.75 per game. So you can’t really back up that “17” number you threw out there.

@nineroutsider that has to be the most homerific delusional post I’ve ever read in my life. Seriously I almost hit my head when I fell on the ground laughing.

The 49ers couldn’t score 38 points on the Saints if the Saints only used 10 guys on defense.

Harbaugh a great play designer? Harbaugh would be the guy cutting up film for Sean Payton. Are you on drugs?

Everything you said about the 49ers is exactly true about the New Orleans Saints.

Payton is arguably the best head coach in the NFL and Harbaugh is in the worst division in the NFL using a team that Singletary built. He’s in his first season as a pro coach and if you think for a second he’s going to out smart or out coach Sean Payton you need to put the pipe down.

The Saints play a spec of D? Please the Saints play defense that compliments their offense. The 49ers play a spec of offense.

The Saints have dominated many teams far better offensively than the 49ers. Giants, Lions, Panthers(twice) Atlanta(twice) and the beat goes on.

38 points? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I heard Cali had some great weed but geez I need to move there.

What you saw in preseason wasn’t a fluke. The 49ers have struggled all season identifying blitz pressure and the Saints blitz more than anyone in the NFL.

There’s something special in California and it’s obviously the weed and not the 49ers.

I’ve always thought many PFT commenters were out of touch with the human race, but this post kind of proves it. The Saints are playing better right now than they did when they started 13 – 0 where it didn’t matter where they played. Do you people not watch actual games from both teams or just the highlights? Did you not notice how the turn over opportunies started happening for the Saints in the second half? Notice how the Saints did whatever they wanted in the running game? Notice how Brees had all day even against one of the best Defensive lines in the NFL? They did that even better yesterday than when they started undefeated in their first 13 games when those were their keys to win. And that was without the Saints starting quickly on offence as they normally do. Even Vegas have them as a 3 1/2 point favorite on the road. Yet somehow PFT commenters know better when the Niners have only proven their system works in the regular season? The Saints are playing as well at this moment as any team great team in NFL history. Many commenters here need to watch actual games instead of relying on out of touch conventional wisdom.

Where and the hell did all these 9ers show up from? Alex Smith will not beat the Saints… Say it slow A-l-e-x-S-m-i-t-h. do you really think he can score more than 2? Man times have changed. It was back in August when they were hoping to suck for Luck, now they winning a Super Bowl? I’m confused…

I shouldnt even respond to your posts considering you said “The Saints beat the niners easily in preseason so…”

You are really gonna bring up preseason? Are you 12? Did you just start watching football? The was one of the lamest arguments I have ever seen.

Another thing, you bring up the Niners pass defense allowing a pretty decent amount of yards. Two reasons for that. 1) The Niners have the #1 rush defense in football so once opposing teams realized that, all they did was pass. 2) Most teams the niners played this year found themselves trailing so went on a pass happy attack to get back into the game.

Look beyond the stats buddy.

Im not gonna be an ignorant homer and say the Niners are gonna crush the Saints. Im gonna be realistic and say that I think itll be a hard fought close game. The Saints are a great team no doubt! Win or lose, I am very proud of the Niners this year and I am excited about their future.

Great Saints offense against great 49ers defense. Average 49ers offense against average Saints defense. The difference is that The Saints actually have a better running game than the 49ers, #6 against # 8. Saints win by 10

@ jackntorres
Actually, my mother and I have a wonderful relationship and I would do anything for her. That goes for both of my parents actually. Not like your golden boy who can do no wrong. I consider myself a very lucky man for the parents I received. That’s probably why I have no respect for drew brees. He could obviously couldn’t have cared less about his mother after she raised him all his life. What kind if son sues their own mother? Not a very good one. Don’t worry though. I was fooled by brett Favre for years before I found out what he really was. It’s easy to believe something when you force yourself too.
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@johnnyb I guess your parents didn’t teach you to mind your own when it comes to others personal business of which you know NOTHING. I suppose you are a 2nd cousin and got all the gossip at the Brees family reunion right?

@ jackntorres,
I know all I need to know about the situation. It’s not my fault hes a public figure and sometimes has his personal life made public. Doesn’t change the facts or make anything drew brees did right. Like I asked earlier, what kind of son sues the mother that raised him all his life? Obviously a contributing factor to the ultimate outcome. How drew feels about that is anybody’s guess but given the history of the relationship, I’d guess it didn’t take him long to move on. All I’m saying is that the guy has $50 million I’m the bank and still decided to sue the woman that gave birth to him and raised him. For me, that’s all I need to know.

I shouldnt even respond to your posts considering you said “The Saints beat the niners easily in preseason so…”

You are really gonna bring up preseason? Are you 12? Did you just start watching football? The was one of the lamest arguments I have ever seen.

Another thing, you bring up the Niners pass defense allowing a pretty decent amount of yards. Two reasons for that. 1) The Niners have the #1 rush defense in football so once opposing teams realized that, all they did was pass. 2) Most teams the niners played this year found themselves trailing so went on a pass happy attack to get back into the game.

Look beyond the stats buddy.

Im not gonna be an ignorant homer and say the Niners are gonna crush the Saints. Im gonna be realistic and say that I think itll be a hard fought close game. The Saints are a great team no doubt! Win or lose, I am very proud of the Niners this year and I am excited about their future.
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You responded so I obviously hit a nerve. You can say preseason is meaningless but 9ers played starters into third quarter against saints backups. Harbaugh was trying to make a point a had his foot placed in his mouth along with the saints foot up his teams butt 23-3. Did you even watch the game. What are you 11?

And I think teams threw against the 9ers because their pass defense is suspect. I’m not saying the saints aren’t more suspect with less pass rush I wish Aldon smith would have fell to us. But Brees can take advantage of the 9ers more than smith can of the saints. Did you just start watching football? Again, are you 11?

Another thing, you bring up the Niners pass defense allowing a pretty decent amount of yards. Two reasons for that. 1) The Niners have the #1 rush defense in football so once opposing teams realized that, all they did was pass. 2) Most teams the niners played this year found themselves trailing so went on a pass happy attack to get back into the game.
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Big Ben had 300 on one leg and Skelton lit yall up. I don’t care what the bay area expects from brees Nola knows how it will play out

nfl4life77 says:
Jan 8, 2012 11:09 AM
Green Bay @ Home during the playoffs is 3-3 since 2000. Not exactly dominating at home either. So Lambeau isn’t that much of a homefield advantage anymore.
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And Aaron Rodgers is 0-0 in home playoff games. Yeah, I had to think about it too but they haven’t played a home playoff game since Rodgers has been the starter.

Last year Packers won all on the road.
2 years ago the Packers lost to the Cardinals in that shootout in Arizona.
The first year with Rodgers they didn’t make the playoffs.

Big Ben did have 300 hundred against the Niners…and how many points did he score? O thats right, 3. Didnt the great AJ Feeley light up the Saints?

Yes youre right, Im 11 years old. I think the Saints are a great team but you fans wanna anoint them Superbowl winners before the playoffs start. Like I said, Im far from an ignorant homer fan, and I give credit where credit is due; Im nervous about playing the Saints.

So keep being an ignorant poster. If the Saints win, I will come back on here and say you were right. No whining, no crying, no excuses. If the Niners win, I wont expect to hear anything other than excuses. May the better team win…

@ jackntorres,
Your completely avoiding the point. See my first post to clarify. Drew brees is a phony. And obviously not enough people know enough about him to realize that. All I did was bring a major issue of concern to light. You can make of it what you want, but like I said earlier, its easy to believe anything if that’s all you’ll allow yourself to believe. It happens to everybody. Ii await your next pathetic rebuttal.

You’re a p o s. drew Brees sued his mom because she set up a scam in San antonio and used his name as a front. She committed suicide when it all came to light. Her instability goes back to when he came out of college and she wanted to represent him. She was a lawyer but not a sports agent. What athlete wants there mom as there agent they would never be taken seriously. Fortunately Brees nor anyone else else needs to explain this to your feeble mind.

Not too sure it was really a “scam”. All she did is use her own sons likeness in some commercials while she was running for public office in Texas. Not really too much of a scam considering the fact she was showing off her OWN SON. Your last two rebuttals illustrate what I’ve been trying to tell you. It’s easy to believe something if that’s all you’ll allow yourself to believe. (the greatest player in the NFL comment was particularly amusing.)

Why are people trippin’ about the Saints being a different road team? Aside from an early fumble, we should have beaten GB. We were stuffed at the 1-yard line on the last play of the game. Folk keep talkin’ like the Saints get blown out on the road. They have won close games, blow-outs, you name it. Do your homework. Check the scores.

SF lost two games on the road, to B-more and Arizona, plus they lost at home to Dallas which means they can be beaten at home! The 49ers and Saints lost to two non-playoff teams, and one play-off team.

Plus, SF beat Detroit on the road 25-19 and the Saints be the daylights out of Detroit twice! And should have run up the score again Saturday night to shut up all those drinking that Hatorade!

SF has a good defense, but they haven’t met Drew Brees and The WMD’s: Weapons of Mass Destruction! Over 42 points in 4 straight games.

Finally, don’t be surprised to see the NFC Championship game in the Big Benz in The Big Easy! When the Giants be GB, after the Saints handle their business in SF, the Superdome will host that game. It’ll be an early Mardi Gras! Remember, you read it here first!

Throwing random facts out there, I can too. Saints got smacked around by the Rams, whom the niners beat twice. The Saints split the season series with Tampa; a team the niners crushed by 45 points. Isn’t it easy to throw out biased facts?

You can be amused. Drew is putting the proof on the field. Most yards passing in a regulation playoff game. Drew Brees. Most yards passing in a regular season. You guessed it. I guess you think the best player in the nfl is Matt Ryan right? Oh no it must be Aaron Rodgers he is soooo much better than Brees.

Johnnyb I’ve seriously never seen a more jealous fan in my life. You must be Philip rivers in the flesh.

650 attempts. Caleb hanie could have broken the yardage record with that many attempts. I’m not denying he is a good player. I just don’t buy that he is the great guy everybody makes him out to be. I think I’ve already said enough about that.

I’m reading a lot of “The 49ers aren’t the Lions. They’re not going to be able to do to San Fran what they did to Detroit.” That’s fine, they don’t need to. They don’t need to put up 45 points and 650 yards to win the game. Alex Smith is also not going to go for 400 yds and 4 TDs either. San Francisco doesn’t have the same explosive offense the Lions do, so it will be a different game. What about Alex Smith’s playoff experience?

I like the Saints to get a couple timely turnovers which they will capitalize on and turn into points.

the 9er’s are NOT the lions….
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Yes, and the Saints are not the Seahawks or Cardinals, and Drew Brees is not Tavaris Jackson or Red Skelton. And 8 field goals by David Akers only counts for 24 points.

miamidolphins1 says:
Jan 8, 2012 9:28 AM
i am so happy this team has to play their next 2 most likely outside of that dome.

now we can see what kind of team they really are, and they will be exposed for the bunch of frauds they really are.

beat the saints.

Awwwww…….don’t get mad because your team sucks, and you didn’t get Brees when you had the chance.
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As Jason Taylor pointed out last night, Miami actually blew it on Brees twice, as they also passed on him in the draft.

Oh, and miamidolphins1, the last two times the Saints played OUTDOORS in Miami, they put up 46 to beat the Dolphins, and won the Super Bowl. But nice try.

the 9er’s are NOT the lions….
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Yes, and the Saints are not the Seahawks or Cardinals, and Drew Brees is not Tavaris Jackson or Red Skelton. And 8 field goals by David Akers only counts for 24 points.
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More importantly smith is not stafford and Crabtree is not Johnson jr. Sf cant hang with the big boys

After reading these post it is appearant that the 9er fans are living in the past. Referals to the Seattle game last year and their defensive ranking this year, they think it is a foregone conclusion that they are the superior team based on their past. Last year has nothing to do with this year and the 9er defensive rating as the best defence in the NFL this year came against a very week division (NFC West).
If you take the best #1 defence (San Fransisco) against the Best offence #1 (NewOrleans), San fransisco only won one game against a playoff team( Pittsburg Steelers) while N.O. won 2. against Detroit, 2 against Atlanta, 1 against Pittsburg, and 1 against New York Giants. N.O. also played the Packers and came up short by one play at the goal line as time expired.
So when you compare the two teams and schedules it’s Water Melons against grapes and the nod goes to my Saints in quality wins. The Seattle game last year was due to a desimated defence and the Ram game was just an aborition that any team could have along the way (See Denver loss yesterday) Sorry to say that the Saints not being able to play outdoors just dont hold water and it will become evident this coming Saturday. Argue if you must but 9ers dont have a chance in hell to beat my Saints.
Saints 38-9ers 17

I also forgot……………..It is a shame that a team uses the excuses about the weather and being outdoors as an advantage to beat another team. Both teams have to play in the same enviroment so that is a very weak excuse for a win or a loss.

forever8young says:
Jan 9, 2012 2:27 AM
The Saints “fans” here are the most insecure bunch of pansies I have ever seen. That said, Niners win 30-24.
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No one rooting for Brees is insecure. Fans of alex Smith sure wish they could say the same thing. That said, we know the 9ers wont score 30 and the saints wont be held under 30.

Packers at home 126.5-81.7=44.8
49ers at home 97.5-64.9=32.6
Saints away 99.1-82.0=17.1

But the Saints are going to roll, away, against the #1 and #2 seeds. Any given Saturday/Sunday always applies, and the Pack could bow to the Giants, but smart money goes with the odds. The Saints offense may be fine, but the overall efforts of the Saints away leaves something to be desired, and that’s not going to magically improve agaisnt upper tier teams. Assuming A-games from all involved, the Saints probably won’t make it out of San Fran.

But the Saints are going to roll, away, against the #1 and #2 seeds. Any given Saturday/Sunday always applies, and the Pack could bow to the Giants, but smart money goes with the odds. The Saints offense may be fine, but the overall efforts of the Saints away leaves something to be desired, and that’s not going to magically improve agaisnt upper tier teams. Assuming A-games from all involved, the Saints probably won’t make it out of San Fran.
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Who measures Qbs rating differentials lol? You were right about smart money goes with the odds. Saints opened at 3.5 favorites. I await your response when you remove your foot from your mouth.

My guess is, they’ll need more candles in that park after Brees and company play lights out and leave the touted niner defense wondering what in the hell just hit them. The hype and talk will all be about how the Saints haven’t faced a defense like this one all season…let me assure you, the niners haven’t faced an offense as potent as the one they’ll be responsible for stopping Saturday. WHO DAT!

How they see the world through rose colored lenses. Akers and lee made the pro bowl bc 9ers only convert 29% of third downs. What a shame with Crabtree Davis and gore that there offense is MIA in the redzone. Alex smith maybe should hope his arm gets detached so he can have it surgically repaired like Brees.

All you saints fans sound like the steeler fans before that monday night game. I just let them talk all the want… and guess what, none of them were here come Tuesday after the game.

For you guys bringing up a pre-season game where the 49ers had 2 weeks of practice in that system is plain and simple stupid. you guys are dumb for thinking that a team will be oiled up on the playbook in 2 weeks… And even then bree’s couldnt get anything done.

The one saying that harbaugh would be cutting film for payton.. HAHAHAHAHA thats all im going to say. specially saying that this team was built by singletary.. that shows how little you guys know about this team.
I’m not going to be as ignorant as you Saints fans and say that we’re going to win for sure, is the playoff’s.. anything can happen, just ask the steelers… and i’m sure harbaugh has some lil surprises for you. enjoy the show everyone.

All you saints fans sound like the steeler fans before that monday night game. I just let them talk all the want… and guess what, none of them were here come Tuesday after the game.

For you guys bringing up a pre-season game where the 49ers had 2 weeks of practice in that system is plain and simple stupid. you guys are dumb for thinking that a team will be oiled up on the playbook in 2 weeks… And even then bree’s couldnt get anything done.

The one saying that harbaugh would be cutting film for payton.. HAHAHAHAHA thats all im going to say. specially saying that this team was built by singletary.. that shows how little you guys know about this team.
I’m not going to be as ignorant as you Saints fans and say that we’re going to win for sure, is the playoff’s.. anything can happen, just ask the steelers… and i’m sure harbaugh has some lil surprises for you. enjoy the show everyone.
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Yeah you better hope between now and Saturday that Brees gets a high ankle sprain like big Ben cause that’s the only way 9ers can slow him down.

WE DAT !
You ignorant Saints are going to have a rude awakening come Saturday, to say the 49ers have no chance in this game is ludicrous ! Keep adding up your statistics because come Saturday night thats all you will have left. Go 9ERS !!

WE DAT !
You ignorant Saints are going to have a rude awakening come Saturday, to say the 49ers have no chance in this game is ludicrous ! Keep adding up your statistics because come Saturday night thats all you will have left. Go 9ERS !!
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The niners have a chance…. To score 30.

The saints have a better chance of scoring 50. One stat matters and that will be the score.

Boys! Boys! Simmer down now children. It’s a GAME that NONE of you are playing in. I’m rooting for my Niners but will not be sad nor disappointed if they lose. I’m very happy and proud of what the Niners have accomplished this year. That being said, how many rings do the Saints need to catch up….?

We need at least 3 or 4 to catch up Shanbi but we’ll be one closer here in about 3 weeks. Also, our window of opportunity with Loomis, Payton and Brees at the helm will rival your window of opportunity during the 1980s with Montana and Rice…Brees has a solid 5 years left and when its all said and done…we’ll have 3 Lombardis…at least.

Ok there is definitely some homerism on both sides of this debate. If you can call it that.

Here’s the thing. The 49ers are the decent looking chick not quite as good looking as the girl next door that gets a huge boob job and wears shirts 3 sizes too small. Next thing you know all the guys are staring at her and now she things she is Charlize Theron.

I think the 49ers fans are a bit delusional about how good their team is or isn’t. Let’s be honest no one in 49er land would of bet their year salary the 49ers would even make the playoffs. And that goes for the ones that work at In and Out burger also.

Saints fans myself included even with recent success are always waiting on the other shoe to drop. Win a Superbowl and expect a repeat then lose to Seattle(regardless of injuries and other reasons why they lost). The Saint are 3.5 road favorites in the playoffs. Vegas is basically saying on a neutral field the Saints would be 7 point favorites and at home likely double digits. Vegas views the matchup very similar to what they saw in the Saints Lions matchup.

The Lions scored 28 points which is the most points against the Saints in 2 months. The 49ers offense is not the Lions offense but we all know that.

The 49ers are more like the Saints of 2006 instead of the Saints of 2009 as far as where this season likely ends up. If you are a 49ers fan thinking you are going to keep the Saints under 20 points and score over 30 points you are a homer and just need to keep your mouth shut.

If you are a Saints fan thinking we are going to score 50 points you need to stay away from Bourbon street.

This is going to be a great game between two talented teams with contrasting styles.

This thread is nothing but subjective, kool aid sipping points of view.

If you want to be objective about the matchup the only clear cut advantage the 49ers have is homefield advantage.

From an offensive standpoint the Saints do everything better than the 49ers and it’s not even debatable. Running, passing, blocking, protecting the Qb. Frank Gore is a beast but the trio of Thomas, Sproles and Ivory is far more versatile and productive than what Gore brings. The multiple looks, personnel groupings and play calls make the Saints running game more dominant and far more productive. Is Gore a better RB than any of those individuals? Sure…Is he better than the sum of the Saints parts. Absolutely not. QB, TE, WR, OL are all clear cut advantages in the Saints favor.

Defensively the 49ers have an amazing front 7 that masks a less than mediocre secondary. Their linebackers are arguably the best in the business. I’d love to have Willis and Bowman and there’s not a player on the Saints defense I wouldn’t give up to get them.

With that said the 49ers are 5th worst in the NFL in giving up plays of 40 yards or more. The Saints have 4 plays of 40 yards+ against the Lions. This is potentially a very bad matchup for a good 49ers defense. Remember the Atlanta game a few years ago?

The Saints corners and safeties are more than enough to matchup with Crabtree, Ginn and Davis.

The one problem the 49ers face is that their biggest defensive strength will be all but negated by the Saints best asset on offense. Their offensive line.

So assuming the two cancel each other out what’s left? Graham and Sproles on linebackers/safeties which is a mismatch for a probowl defense. The Saints WR’s vs the 49ers CBs/S again advantage New Orleans.

Alex Smith was sacked more than anyone in the NFL this season and had fewer attempts than almost anyone. Gregg Williams blitzed more than any team in the NFL this season and Roman Harper tied an NFL record with 6.5 sacks by a DB….Anyone else see where this is going?

The 49ers have great special teams but so do the Saints. Sproles>Ginn…Lee=Morstead. Lee had more opportunities to punt but the difference in net yardage is insignificant. Morstead is a kickoff monster almost always hitting a touchback.

The 49ers also kicked more field goals than probably anyone ever and I’m sorry you aren’t going to beat the Saints doing that.

I could see this game going either way it’s the NFL and that’s why they play the game.

If the Saints play turnover free ball the 49ers have about a 3% chance of winning. The Saints have never lost under Payton when rushing for over 100 yards.

For those of you that think the Saints can’t win outside they are 12-4 in the last 3 years. Partly cloudy with a high of 60 might as well be indoors. Unless someone forgets to turn off the sprinklers. Then again the Saints have much more team speed so I don’t know how much that matters.

@danem83 – Ok, that last comment sounds more reasonable. I really do think that is going to come down to the Turn Overs… Unfortunately you forgot to mention that that the this years niners tied a record for the least T.O’s and the biggest Take away ration +26 or something like that.

Alex smith threw 5 Ints and half of those werent his fault. However, he did struggle in the red zone and thats the difference.

If this team had scored half of the red zone opportunities they had, they wouldve matched the saints on points scored this season. Thats a stat that doesn’t give credit on how this offense is able to move the ball.

I think it will be a good game.. Lets just hope that the Refs don’t mess it up for either team with dumb calls or no calls

The Rams hung 27 on the Niners and the Niners won. The Rams hung 31 on the Saints and the Rams won. Saints score 21, in a dome against a poor Rams D and some people think the Saints are gonna score 40+ on the Niners D in SF? Reeks of ignorance in here. May the better team win Sunday. Go niners

Very well said. I think each fan base is feeding off the “homerism” thus resulting is biased insults. As a Niner fan, the one team I didnt want the Niners to face, was the Saints. Niners allow about 10 points per game at home and the Saints average 27 on the road. Here’s to a great game

jimboslice208 says:
Jan 9, 2012 10:17 PM
The Rams hung 27 on the Niners and the Niners won. The Rams hung 31 on the Saints and the Rams won. Saints score 21, in a dome against a poor Rams D and some people think the Saints are gonna score 40+ on the Niners D in SF? Reeks of ignorance in here. May the better team win Sunday. Go niners
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You can’t take one game and make it representative of a trend or total team performance. The Saints scored more than 21 points on several defenses much better or even just a little better than the Rams’ D. The main reason the offense was stifled in that particular game was because the D-Line got to Drew. Period. He was sacked six times, hurried countless others, and if you can do that to him, you can stifle this offense. Thankfully, the back-up tackle who got absolutely abused in that game, Charles Brown, is not going to be playing on Saturday. Zach Strief, who was injured for the Rams game, has been healthy since then and is much better than Brown.

After being sacked 6 times in that Rams game, Drew was sacked only 5 times over the remaining 8 games. You’re not getting that same performance on Saturday.

Saints have the best road record in NFL over last 3 years and have more yards rushing this year than Ravens and Steelers . . . of course they are not as good away from home as they are at home, they dont lose at home. Look at the games they have played since Peyton got there and there are many quality road wins – just none in the play offs, yet (except of course the superbowl)

im not gonna jinx em by rubbing niner’s faces in it but niners D better be ready cause saints are relentless

The more I try to be reasonable with 49ers fans the more of you open your idiotic mouths.

A 6-10 team last year with basically the same talent you had last year and a new head coach goes 13-3 in a terrible division with an easy schedule and you are world beaters?

The Saints have gone 41-12 since the beginning of the 2009 season.

What parallel universe do you 49ers fans live in that would lead you to believe you are going to blow the Saints out? It could go either way but some of you are talking like you are in the late 80’s.

You aren’t favored by Vegas, you aren’t favored by the public and aside from homefield you don’t have any other advantages. Tell me one team aside from the Bucs early in the season that you’ve dismantled?

For everyone thinking Willis is going to take Graham and Sproles out of the game I suggest you watch what Reggie Bush(before breaking his leg) and Jeremy Shockey were able to do to your linebackers last season.

Throw Sproles and Graham in the mix and it’s another headache for the 49ers.

Harbaugh is now using the “Honey Badger” as motivation? How unoriginal and flat out lame.

Come Saturday night in the post game you’ll hear Drew Brees with a “Who’s got it better than US?!” and see how you feel about it.

Both teams played the same amount of playoff teams in the regular season. Last regular season matchup was very close. 49ers average more points at home than the Saints do on the road.

I don’t know who will win, but your entire post basically says to the world “I’m nothing more than a completely biased fan, and my opinion is worth pretty much nothing.”

Like I said, I have no clue who is going to win. I’m clearly rooting for the 49ers but it will be an extremely tough game. I will, as any fan would, be upset if the 49ers lose, but there is no shame in losing to a team like the Saints.

Drew Brees really should win the MVP this year (and should have won another a few years ago).

It strikes me that you really don’t know that much about football. Who cares about last season or the Saints win total from 2009. Or the 9ers in the 80’s and the Saints paper bag decades. That crap has nothing to do with this game. The 9ers play this year should have earned your respect. They are 4-1 against playoff teams.

The Niners, like the Saints, employ a lot of different looks and schemes on offense that will keep the Saints defense honest or it will get beat consistently. They aren’t overly impressive on defense, but they can bring heat and are very effective with a big lead.

The Saints won’t get that big lead though because of the 9ers great defense. It will bend, but it won’t break and they will get some turnovers. The 9ers are great inside the 20. Hope Kasey likes 45+ field goals and lots of them. Akers does. 9ers special teams are great too. Special teams will matter more than usual to the Saints this game.

I do have concerns about this game though. This game will be very tough and hard fought. It will be close. I think the 9ers coaching staff will out scheme SP who is darn good in his own right. The 9ers have plays that I know Harbaugh has been saving that they haven’t put on tape. That is the way this guy schemes, thinking about what’s on tape, setting plays up for use weeks later.