sorry Ark, known control=directed lie. If you're not familiar with what a directed lie is, you are not up to date on your studies. Anyway

Dan, lying to therapist and probation are fair control questions. I have a problem with the time line of the questions obviously, and I TOTALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH C5 AS A CONTROL.

Having said that, I also have a problem if the examiner included the controls on his or her report. However it is still unclear as to if the examiner included the controls on the report.

In regard to ATSM, the industry will argue that, "they are a toothless organization, with no enforcement capabilities." the same way they do when I asked the industry to help me with the Unethical Behavior of TAPE, Maria Hubbard, Clayton Wood, Andy Shepherd, Richard Wood and Associates (for running shitty tests and running tests outside standards) etc etc etc.

You don't really think there is any real enforcement in the industry at all do you? At least not when it comes to enforcing actual issues, filed or brought up against member of their establishment. Having said that, the industry is more than happy to look into any complaints about made up and fictional issues, dreamed up to silence a truth telling whistle blower.

Naaaaaaaaa people who break standards and bend the rules are rewarded with "fiefdoms," where they will be entitled to work, rather than..... I don't know........ EARN IT.

You know who I'm talking about.

As far as juveniles go, that is a careful line I avoid more than I avoid infidelity testing.

5C. Since being at [treatment center name], have you had any deviant sexual thoughts that you haven't reported? (NO)

Just a random stab from someone who has never been to any kind of PCSOT training:

For those whose minds are very disturbed and inundated with a flood of deviant thoughts, this CQ may be meagerly effective. But for "the honest client who is responding favorably to treatment", it is quite possible that he has been completely forthcoming with any and all deviant thoughts, even keeping a log to be certain. In this scenario, the CQ is weak and at risk of being overpowered by the adjacent RQ.

Thanks Joe, I am only familiar with the term "Directed Lie", in all the documentation I've perused, I've never seen the term "Known Control". I hope you will be patient as you nursemaid me through my studies.

5C. Since being at [treatment center name], have you had any deviant sexual thoughts that you haven't reported? (NO)

Just a random stab from someone who has never been to any kind of PCSOT training:

For those whose minds are very disturbed and inundated with a flood of deviant thoughts, this CQ may be meagerly effective. But for "the honest client who is responding favorably to treatment", it is quite possible that he has been completely forthcoming with any and all deviant thoughts, even keeping a log to be certain. In this scenario, the CQ is weak and at risk of being overpowered by the adjacent RQ.

BINGO!

Thanks for noticing.

The ostensibly honest kid in SOTx -- who is now, BTW, a convicted FELON in "treatment" because of a sexting thing with another high-school student who's within a few weeks of the SO's age -- could never pass his requisite polygraph "test", due to the way the "test" was constructed.

Look again at the CQs, then put yourself in the shoes of that 15-year-old kid who's doing everything he can to cooperate, but who is jammed up in the SOTx "system."

The 15-year-old kid's mother asked the DOC authorities about the accuracy of the "test".

Their reply, in essence, is this: "We will not debate or discuss the polygraph. We've been using it for over 20 years. Your son is a liar."

Whats funny to me, I WARNED EVERYONE, that people were going to get smart to the PCSOT game, if they didn't knock it off. I warned everyone years ago, and now it is happening. The industry had 8 years to right itself, but noooooooooooooooo....

They thought that all they had to do was ignore me, and my warnings, and now the money game is catching up. People are getting smart, and examiners are running for cover when the tough questions are being asked.