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I think Spec needs to shuffle around their marketing/product mix a bit if they are going to have so many bikes in the lineup. If you go for 6+ model lineup, you've gotta be bang on with where your customer is. It's really hard to market an "All arounder" message in that showroom. I think the Tarmac gets lost here... "When do I use this bike?" :

gangbang wrote:Tarmac S-Works weights similar to BMC SLR 01, but only one of them goes to "lightweight" category? Very strange ranking though.And where is TCR for Giant?

The Tarmac can't even break the kilo mark on frame weight, the SLR01 is ~200g lighter.

I'm pretty excited for a weigh weenie Tarmac frame if that's what's coming. I just hope they get their supply line stuff in order for the demand and not run out of stock. Always a problem with Specialized.

gangbang wrote:Tarmac S-Works weights similar to BMC SLR 01, but only one of them goes to "lightweight" category? Very strange ranking though.And where is TCR for Giant?

Didn't do it by specs, rather by marketing approach. What trend are you following with what bike? Why do you have 7 types or road bikes? If you're a customer thinking lightweight is the most important spec (and you're not getting clear weight information ) are you going to fall for the Tarmac's or Emonda's marketing message?

Well it looks I may have spotted the first 2018 Tarmac or maybe Pro-Spec Roubaix. The Quick Step-Floors riders were out on the Flanders course doing recon today. I noticed the 'low-mount' seatstay, low-mount seat clamp (e.g.- the current Roubaix), rim brakes, and level top tube on the bike Boonen was riding. It was very sneaky of Specialized to paint it similarly to his special edition team frame.

Here are a couple of shots I noticed, and a link to a video where you can see the entire profile of the frame.

he's riding a roubaix.. a clip showed up today of him riding up the paterberg and you can clearly see the future shock system working. He also confirmed this in a comment on an instagram page (forgot which page)