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One thing you never hear about in Panther land is players holding out or making contract demands. Why? Because Hurney didn't make the players work for anything and would open negotiations with top dollar contracts (exaggeration).

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Who, by the way, hasn't been very effective the last couple of seasons.

Funny that part was left out.

They created 5.5 in cap space....will eat about 4.9

Harrson plays the run just as well as always...declined some as a pass rusher only in 2012.

Didn't leave anything out....watch Williams' 2012 season and he is declining as well in areas. All anyone wants to do is talk about his performance against the worst D in history. The rest of the season wasn't just Chud and the OL.....Williams use to simply run better and not go down when the wind blew.

Steelers have a long history of parting with guys....we leave that important part of there model out. Which pretty much means we don't follow the Steeler model

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His performance against the Saints is still indicitive of what he can do. I don't think he's any less effective than before, I think the change in the OL and Chud going full retard with the scheme is what hurt him and Stewart alike.

Harrison was good against the run, but not as good as he used to be. He had dropped off significantly as a pass rusher. However, they created space and got younger at a position vital for their defensive success whereas cutting DeAngelo would have only hurt us.

Comparing the two is stupid - which was really my point

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His performance against the Saints is still indicitive of what he can do. I don't think he's any less effective than before, I think the change in the OL and Chud going full retard with the scheme is what hurt him and Stewart alike.

Harrison was good against the run, but not as good as he used to be. He had dropped off significantly as a pass rusher. However, they created space and got younger at a position vital for their defensive success whereas cutting DeAngelo would have only hurt us.

Comparing the two is stupid - which was really my point

Again, Williams vs the worst D in the history of the sport....isn't a good benchmark to reference.

He certainly didn't look very good overall this year....last game greaty causing people to have a selective memory. 30 yr old runners are suppose to decline from what they were.

Cutting a 30 yr old RB....on a team with Cam, Stewart, Tolbert where you can turn around and invest the cap room created in one of our MANY HOLES at starting positions certainly would more likely help than hurt the overall team.

Still think he gets cut eventually if he doesn't take a paycut. We might see that closer to the season and go after FAs that occur in the cuts closer to the start of the year. Will be shocked if it doesn't happen.

Comparing the 2 isn't stupid....they are both examples of the difference in how he 2 teams build there teams. Lots of others guys can be used to point that out....We let our superstars fall apart here and Pitt parts with them.