tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post5611786378870698648..comments2015-07-30T04:35:57.486-07:00Comments on John K Stuff: Gene Colan - and Realistic Artists Drawing CartoonsJohnKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033480276168015590noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-86525457664691455182010-07-24T17:06:07.526-07:002010-07-24T17:06:07.526-07:00That was a cool blog. Marvel comics from the 1960&...That was a cool blog. Marvel comics from the 1960&#39;s are my all time favorite comic books. What do you think of John Romita Sr.? He&#39;s one of my all time favorite comic book artistsTedMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17495121390947681867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-1401003793694873632010-07-24T16:10:17.805-07:002010-07-24T16:10:17.805-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.TedMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17495121390947681867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-60621666829528886192009-07-09T17:50:07.437-07:002009-07-09T17:50:07.437-07:00We created the box of KIRBY KRACKLE CEREAL! I made...We created the box of KIRBY KRACKLE CEREAL! I made a Bowl of Kirby krackle, took pictures of that then did the graphics, printed it, assembled it and made krackle coming out of the top, too! <br /><br />The box is on a WORLD TOUR-(4 conventions and counting) visit the gallery of comic book dignitaries that have shown their love for Jack Kirby at our page: <br /><br />www.myspace.com/VanguardsOfComicshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10327429296026996841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-73185151200578707592007-08-31T17:59:00.000-07:002007-08-31T17:59:00.000-07:00Hi John,Wow, I was a HUGE fan of Not Brand Echh to...Hi John,<BR/><BR/>Wow, I was a HUGE fan of Not Brand Echh too!! I've owned every issue at one point or another, and even have issue #1 signed by Stan Lee. It had a major influence on my drawing development and humor, as my friend and I tried to make up our own versions. It was hilarious, or at least I remember it that way.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the reminder!<BR/>ScottScotthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02119053263533809811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-896448850452257892007-08-31T14:30:00.000-07:002007-08-31T14:30:00.000-07:00Hey! DC comics weren't bland! What about the wild ...Hey! DC comics weren't bland! What about the wild poses Gil Kane did on Green Lantern's second run in the silver age?<BR/><BR/>But then again, I'm not a huge fan of the silver age.Jorge Garridohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06773761831300035917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-58322407046504797232007-08-31T10:33:00.000-07:002007-08-31T10:33:00.000-07:00The "Not Brand Ecch!" characters don't read at all...The "Not Brand Ecch!" characters don't read at all to me. What happened to that advice about making a recognizable silhouette?Jack Ruttanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11202365155540203592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-72696962333220601152007-08-30T22:17:00.000-07:002007-08-30T22:17:00.000-07:00John:I actually had the opportunity at this year's...John:<BR/><BR/>I actually had the opportunity at this year's Comic-Con to listen to an interview with Marvel writer Gary Friedrich, who wrote several stories for "Not Brand Ecch."<BR/><BR/>He actually expressed disappointment with the book, saying that he wanted it to be a more general parody book (a la MAD) and not merely self-parody.<BR/><BR/>I agree with you that MAD is stronger, and I might Tylerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03355266135390942931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-81454787079829666042007-08-30T17:58:00.000-07:002007-08-30T17:58:00.000-07:00Hey, we haven't even discussed Kirby's dots (a.k.a...Hey, we haven't even discussed Kirby's dots (a.k.a., the Kirby Krackle), one of the most copied effects in comics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirby_dotsDume3http://www.blogger.com/profile/11887866854402372025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-85683915500339947902007-08-30T17:50:00.000-07:002007-08-30T17:50:00.000-07:00Hey Ethantake out the cursing and I'll post your...Hey Ethan<BR/><BR/>take out the cursing and I'll post your comment.JohnKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033480276168015590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-77440259112665195942007-08-30T14:50:00.000-07:002007-08-30T14:50:00.000-07:00Great post John. I really enjoy the artistic refe...Great post John. I really enjoy the artistic references outside the standard animation world. <BR/><BR/>I've always loved Kirby, but never known a lot about Colan. Definitely want to pick up more of his stuff!Tony C.http://www.blogger.com/profile/06448359569924748595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-6245319981201663852007-08-30T13:21:00.000-07:002007-08-30T13:21:00.000-07:00I think Stan Lee's naive genius was that he was de...I think Stan Lee's naive genius was that he was determined to do work he enjoyed, and also the kind of stuff he had already been pumping out already, before Marvel Superheroes came into fruition in the sixties. He basically wrote wisecracking Teen and Romance comics. When he did Superheroes, he basically wrote wisecracking Teen and Romance comics.<BR/><BR/>AND he was not afraid to use artists Hans Flagonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15244291751467906313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-91943698792349684492007-08-30T12:05:00.000-07:002007-08-30T12:05:00.000-07:00>>Later, DC started imitating Marvel and introduce...>>Later, DC started imitating Marvel and introduced more dynamic artists like Neal Adams into their stable. The modernized more serious DC comics to me aren't as fun as the more naive corny ones.<BR/><BR/>Not to put words in your mouth, but does this mean you didn't like Dark Knight Returns?Tom Ahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09651775322085856870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-80900994286498298472007-08-30T10:43:00.000-07:002007-08-30T10:43:00.000-07:00Nice comic book post. Going to the comic stores to...Nice comic book post. Going to the comic stores today is not too great. The 60's covers were so kooky and dynamic. The covers today are so dark and boring. It's hard to tell one book from another. Weren't comic covers supposed to get ones attention? All the new covers look like Heavy Metal album covers. I don't know if I'm viewing the new issue of Spiderman or the new Megadeth CD. Can't Wicks for Candlestickshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02624678299551525333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-88652449166380192992007-08-30T10:25:00.000-07:002007-08-30T10:25:00.000-07:00off topic, I found the most boring cartoon ever. I...off topic, I found the most boring cartoon ever. It's called "the racoons" I'm sure everyone who worked on this has killed killed them selves by now. Go check it out if you want your nose to bleed out of boredom. http://www.tv-links.co.uk/listings/2/7251kate yarberryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03875094733695356028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-42745023416597446532007-08-30T10:12:00.000-07:002007-08-30T10:12:00.000-07:00That Baxter Building...only a place like Toronto w...That Baxter Building...only a place like Toronto would put that up! Reed and Ben are lucky - they don't have their rooms next to a giant rocket exhaust pipe.<BR/><BR/>I miss having a kid's imagination.Raffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03572774347485509691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-53449845659558272522007-08-30T10:04:00.000-07:002007-08-30T10:04:00.000-07:00Aren't all comic books wildy uneven? As are most c...Aren't all comic books wildy uneven? As are most cartoons, TV shows, movies, etc.?JohnKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033480276168015590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-39362088840018776842007-08-30T09:57:00.000-07:002007-08-30T09:57:00.000-07:00I loved NOT BRAND ECCH! and still do, and I collec...I loved NOT BRAND ECCH! and still do, and I collected all of them, but...<BR/>they're wildly uneven, and even the best of it can't really hold a candle to the guys who did it earlier and better - Harvey Kurtzman and Wally Wood. <BR/><BR/>SUPERDUPERMAN, BAT BOY & RUBIN, and FLESH GARDEN (just to name three) are classic satires that will live forever.<BR/> <BR/>They're even superior to their mike f.http://www.blogger.com/profile/02685917448327606335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-30113189178337000652007-08-30T09:37:00.000-07:002007-08-30T09:37:00.000-07:00Maybe that's why they aren't as funny as Mad Comi...Maybe that's why they aren't as funny as Mad Comics, which were written by Harvey Kurtzman.<BR/><BR/>But the drawings are great.<BR/><BR/>The straight Marvel comics were largely plotted by the artists I think. And then Stan would come in and change the dialogue to make it snappier.<BR/><BR/>I'm not sure if Brand Echhh was done the same way.JohnKhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14033480276168015590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-78990050851931506222007-08-30T09:32:00.000-07:002007-08-30T09:32:00.000-07:00John, these Gene Colan examples are fantastic (I l...John, these Gene Colan examples are fantastic (I love "Not Brand Ecch" as well), but I was wondering if you had any comments on the fact that nearly all of these stories had separate writers and weren't completely dictated by the cartoonists/illustrators who drew them. Is the difference just that comic book writers can be closer to the material and are less likely to lose touch?Tylerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03355266135390942931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-68545471531744087872007-08-30T09:27:00.000-07:002007-08-30T09:27:00.000-07:00I loved Kirby's rubber style. I seemed to convey s...I loved Kirby's rubber style. I seemed to convey so much emotion in a realy bizarre way. Not Brand Ecch was neat in the sense that it ridiculed all that we held holy back then. It was part of the whole iconoclastic thing going on back then. It showed that when you loved something you could kick the shit out of it for artistic effect.Bluedoghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12165566538949438282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-59781535574717363722007-08-30T09:13:00.000-07:002007-08-30T09:13:00.000-07:00Kirby will always be The KIng.Kirby will always be The KIng.harpohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12691704763162735779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-20925029725113202802007-08-30T08:33:00.001-07:002007-08-30T08:33:00.001-07:00That Fantastic Four cover is awesome. Look at how ...That Fantastic Four cover is awesome. Look at how the Japanese copied Jack Kirby's style for Transformers: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/images/KevinGilvear/transformers7.jpg<BR/><BR/>Your statements about about realism not working in animation makes me think of anime--they have always been proccupied with detail and form over motion. I have to say, the level of detail in Transformers the movie Dume3http://www.blogger.com/profile/11887866854402372025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-51236663879836899142007-08-30T08:32:00.000-07:002007-08-30T08:32:00.000-07:00Hey JohnK, this might interest you:http://www.cart...Hey JohnK, this might interest you:<BR/><BR/>http://www.cartoonbrew.com/tv/south-park-creators-get-online-ad-revenue-deal<BR/><BR/>Granted, you don't bode well with their show, but at least this shows that there is hope for creators.Rodrigohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01980973906674137322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-59423700781633739242007-08-30T07:28:00.000-07:002007-08-30T07:28:00.000-07:00I got into Jack Kirby after getting Fantastic Four...I got into Jack Kirby after getting Fantastic Four reissues, not knowing they were reissues at the time, at a flea market with my dad when I was a little tyke.<BR/><BR/>Jack Kirby's characters are great but his backgrounds are AMAZING. For superhero comics to work for me I have to believe the world around the characters, and Kirby, if you have any of his Fantastic Four or Nick Fury comics you'llAdamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15862869332388893138noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22406604.post-22256110722215897162007-08-30T06:57:00.000-07:002007-08-30T06:57:00.000-07:00Man I loved this comic too, still do! Gene Colan's...Man I loved this comic too, still do! Gene Colan's Tomb of Dracula (comic and mag) were equally awesome to a pre-teen kid like myself growing up in the 70's who could't seem to get enough horror no matter how supernatural Marvel got during that era. I have a nice pre-code horror sample of Colan's 50's work on my blog THE HORRORS OF IT ALL devoted to golden age horror comics, big scans too so Karswellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15889717828895556186noreply@blogger.com