Looks like your new stake works like a champ!! You are right about practice, practice, practice . . . . I think your customer has a few more hours on the handles. BTW, if you have a long way to go, I need practice practice practice practice practice practice !!!!! Oh yeah, and some more practice, followed by some practice. However, I'm going to take a clue from the Decorators. They don't call it practice. They call it flying. I need more flying.