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01-16 08:35 PM

Thanks. could you try yahoo, google and msn groups on immigration too. when you type these words you will see several such forum names. Select the ones with more membership and become a member. Thgen post messages. Emails sent in these forums go to each member.

others, pls suggest more websites and help in posting IV messages on them. sure will do it and will update as i post

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greyhair

02-12 02:16 PM

hold on guys!!! i was the one who started this thread because i was not sure if ron was right or not but i guess seeing desi3933 comments that he is right and ron may not have the proof to justify this time.

it is good if we can get some proof of uscis wasting/not using visa but untill then please dont blame each other..

I feel the arguments desi3933 is giving.... makes most of the sense as compared to the last reply by ron which was like a general response instead of showing root cause of 13k visa lost.

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Please let me clarify. This is not a question of ambiguity in the meaning of the message. Its crystal clear. One immigration body shop said that 13K visas are wasted by USCIS. It has been proven with facts that the statement made by immigration body shop is factually incorrect. Its not the first time. But you continue to ask others to look for proof of USCIS wasting visa numbers even after looking at the data. I am totally perplexed by the obsession with immigration body shop when repeatedly similar inflaming messages have been discredited in the public arena. :confused: When is enough, enough.

my attorney says even if you send it today to be delivered on Monday July 2 USCIS might also reject cases delivered on july 2, if visa bulleten is revised on july 2. does anybody have any idea what USCIS did for others workers category, did they reject cases filed after June 5 or reject from June 5 itself (I believe June 5 was the date when DOS said they retrogressed)

My company has just told all employees that became current and were planning on filing in July that the historical revision is VERY likely to happen on Monday or Tuesday. If you have the I-485 documents in your hand SEND THEM NOW! If not (my case, my lawyer is still getting them ready), hold tight and see what happens. I swear that if USCIS screws me (and thousands more) next week I will join a class-action lawsuit against USCIS. This is outrageous, I couldn't believe the news when I heard it. I just hope it's wrong but even Murphy's site says it's 95-98% likely. Our stress, frustration, wasted time and money will cost them dearly if they attempt this travesty.

I am sure they will ask for passport if you only have the I-94. Now if I am required to carry my passport all the time that becomes a real pain particularly if we are on H1/L1 and present for quite a long time.

I 94 issued at POE must be attached to the passport all the times!

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EkAurAaya

09-26 03:10 PM

Dear Reader,

Thank you for your interest in FSB. We admit that there was a mischaracterization of the Capitol Hill rally in the story and it was corrected as soon we realized the error.

We have changed the story to correctly identify the mission as a protest of the long delays in securing green cards for highly-skilled workers already in the U.S.

We will work to avoid errors like this in the future.

Best regards,

FSB

In response to....

"Last week 1,000 protestors-mostly legal immigrants-drew attention to the situation of highly skilled foreigners who want to work for companies in the U.S. by marching on Capitol Hill."

Above statement is totally wrong! you are seriously misguiding readers by your above statement... the rally was for clearing up backlog of petitions filed for Green Cards not for increasing H1b. You should really contact the source, in this case Immigration Voice to learn what was the rally about. info@immigrationvoice.org

Your questions not frivolous. We will keep members updated on our course of action.

More than anything else, we require our members to stand by us, and create awareness in the community.

Thank you for your patience, and faith in us.

On behalf of Core IV team

I have great respect for some of the core members i know. They have done lot of work to make this forum successful. But i always think that you can increase participation if you make things more clear and take comments in a positive way.

I am sure many guest members or other frequent visitors to IV website get the impression that there is always a fund drive for something or the other on the IV Website homepage and there is always a target amount which never seems to be met.

I understand that there are expenses to maintain the website etc, but here we are talking about fund drive for lawsuit. Sometimes I wonder what will happen if you can not collect $5000 so will you wait to file a lawsuit until you collect $5000? May it will be too late then. What if you collect only say $4000? How do you decide these arbitrary numbers?

Are you planning for a separate litigation from that of AILF? How will you complement the effort by AILF with money?

Hey, who am I to ask these questions! These are some of the questions on behalf of hundreds of members who need to know more to actively participate to make it a success. There is no reason you should take it in a negative way.

Murthy sent the letter after LOGICLIFE declared that something GOOD is likely or on the way.... IV is doing the job and she is getting the fruit (money)by just publishing it. When the lawsuit issue came up she took U-turn saying its AILA's job...

When i first came to US , i worked with a guy who used to Publish the results of my hardwork without even mentioning my name and get promotion. When i went to him for my promotion he said this year's promotion quota has exhausted .

Anyway i left that company and those kind thiefs ( who steal credit for other work) long back but the distressing memory of exploitation hasn't left my mind.

To a few of my misguided friends who seem to not understand the distinction between a lobbying outfit whose goal is to change existing law to better suit reality and a law firm whose goal is to work within existing law. As self-proclaimed proponents of "Gandhigiri" - I see its principles not being applied when dealing with each other. Is Gandhigiri meant only to show USCIS. Would the Mahatma have said the same things mentioned above before asking himself a few questions. I dont think we can question the motives and intention of anybody before fully knowing the facts. As a client of Murthy Law Firm here is a fact:

On her call last week for her clients, she mentioned that the Murthy Law Firm is one of the biggest financial contributor to AILF - who by the way are ready to file the class action lawsuit. If the lawsuit is successfull and given AILF's funding source - will you exclude yourself from the potential benefit because Murthy's funds were used to support the litigation - who's piggybacking now.

Again - Its not one against the other - Please bear in mind the DUE PROCESS of LAW has been violated by USCIS resulting in a curtailment of your substantive rights (EAD, Parole, AC21 etc). I would not care who fights on my behalf so long as the outcome is to correct the earlier mistake.

If you feel that she does not work for immigrants you have no locus standi to avail of ANY BENEFIT from the lawsuit and as a true proponent of "Gandhigiri" you should VOLUNTARILY exclude yourself from any such potential benefit. :)

I know the Mahatma would have done the same thing.

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03-16 09:25 PM

i just don't see what the fuss is about. people from india usually waited 5-6 years for a GC historically, and it's about the same, give or take one year, even now. so i don't see why 4 years of wait after i-485 is being made out to be such a big deal only NOW.......????

It's like asking Martin Luther King a few decades ago "Slavery has been there for centuries, why do you need equality now?". Your tone is exactly like that. It's just an analogy, we have definitely not suffered as much, but I am just trying to tell you that a wrong should not be prolonged, it needs to be corrected.

Consultants end up being cheaper for companies. Much cheaper! No labor tax, no payroll tax, no health insurance (over $500), no any insurance, no contributions to 401K and many more expenses. Plus $12K and then what? You will leave the firm in 6 months. Plus you cannot say that ONLY they got their worth from your services. They paid you what you are worth too! Right?

Green card processing costs only $12000 max..Its not a big deal for such big companies.They just dont want to do the favor. getting green card itself takes min 10 years. so you r going to stick on to this company until that time. is that not a gaurantee. working for 10 years with same company. you know y consulting companies file green card immediately. they do that becos the employee will stay with the company for a while.American companies do not realize this. one of my friend came back to compny as a consultant. now they are paying two times more than what they were oaying him as full time employee. is that not an expense to the company...why they r paying him that much now , instead they should have filed his green card.

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kumarc123

10-15 07:23 PM

To all my IV Members,

I agree with the fact of Gandhi protest #2, this is the right time, we can start another flower movement, this will help in two ways.

1. Will put pressure on congress to honor the high immigrant bill in duck session. 2. We will get attention and the next upcoming president will know, we are hurting.

Listen guys, I am not here for a popularity contest, I am hurting like you guys. I am tired of making those long list numbers. The result? Well nothing, I am sorry it may hurt some members, but the truth is nothing happened, we were put aside like a rotten paper.

We have been passive for long now, lets be activist.

Let us all, do Gandhi campaign again, we can get a lot of publicity from not only media channels over here, but from Indian network as well. This will put more pressure on congress and USCIS.

Also IV members whoa re confused on what and what not to do, please I request you all to support another big movement. Please lets not waste any more time in discussion, or questioning each others intentions.

I'm here at California with L-2 visa. I can stay legally in US but i can not get a SSN number, i can work too.But For a driver license they ask for SSN. Do i still get the Driver License or no?

Thank you very much...

If you have valid L-2 status, you need to apply for your EAD (file I-765 with USCIS) to be able to work legally. Once your I-765 is approved, you will get your EAD card and you will have to take it to your local SSN office and apply for a SSN. Having your EAD (employment authorization) card allows you to apply for a SSN. Also no matter what, you will need a SSN to work legally.

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Wendyzhu77

02-28 06:25 PM

yes, this is much more troubling than the gc delay. If the country sank, what's the point of getting its GC??? If you have been following the news this week, the economy is really in trouble. Specifically financial and insurance sector. Dow plunged around 900 + points in last 2 days.

Rambha: First hats off to you to source information and then put it on this forum.

However, how will this mistake be rectified? What happens to us who have spend so much money on preparations? Among these 700K or so applicants, iam not sure how many have to leave the country because of various reasons before there PDs become current again in near future. In that case, who should reimburse the costs? If this was a case of poor customer service, then they should also follow this age old saying in business community "Customer is always right" and promptly refund the expenses incurred.

I am for requesting the congress for a special vehicle for july filers. There should be a way out for all the affected applicants no matter what their PD was.

In matter of 2 weeks, the billion dollar mistake have costed us dearly in lot many other ways.

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Openarms

08-11 03:20 PM

As far I am concerned they are one of the organizations that injected this EB2 vs EB3 allocation... at that movement they might have their own reasons... but it might change now... We kinda know where IV stands on this...

They do....

How come a person with EB2 category applied GC in 2006 doing the same thing that a EB3 person does who applied GC in 2002 gets their Green Cards approved?? Again not against any category...What in the world of kinda rationale is this is??

This just beats me..Why was the conference call idea for such an important issue floated only in the Donor Forum. Fine, the Donors pay and they deserve to have some information. But if you need bigger participation from IV members, the conf. call idea should have been in the General Forum as well....

Anyways, can this still be arranged ? I would love to be a part of that in any possible way. Please let me and all the other members know.

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willwin

07-28 01:35 PM

I am reading about 16th century stuff here in this thread.

Let us go back to 10,000 B.C or further back (ice age or if possible even before).

Was there any gods (known to us) then (any religion for that matter)?

Gods came in to existence with human civilization. Initially as an answer to all things that were 'unknown' to human beings and then later as a 'tool' to insist discipline (in their own understanding as to what discipline is) among human beings.

We talk about Iran, Iraq, afghanistan wars, bomb blasts in India, poverty in places like somalia and in all of these INCIDENTS millions of innocents died/die. What are/were the 'Gods' doing? Can They not stop this from happening? They won't. Because these are started by human beings and unless we stop it won't stop. Now don't direct me to a book or a PDF. Answer me straight.

Human beings are the most cruel/selfish creatures on earth. We are animals - well worse than them - social animals. This thread does not make any sense.

We are talking about our 'beliefs' here and that is decided by so many factors. Million people will have million different beliefs.

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Jaime

09-12 01:23 AM

Thank you Governor(s)!!

Congressmen/Senators please do what the nation's leaders are are asking you for a long time.

Jaime, Guess we may have to organize a walk to Crawford ? what do you think ?

I'm in!!!

gc_on_demand

11-17 10:44 AM

I think Senate is already there for lameduck,,,

Come one folks from california.. We can do it..

Jaime

09-11 04:45 PM

Email us! We will help you so you can attend the rally! NO TIME TO LOSE!!!!