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I understand genetics and color genes, at least in real life. I get the biology and how to draw out the "squares" to figure out which genes will be produced by a breeding. But what I don't know is, is there a place where we can figure out which genes our dogs actually have? In Spanish Water Dogs, there are several combinations that result in the same color. Is it possible to figure out which genes my dogs have so I can figure out who I need to breed to get the colors that I want?

We are not told which hidden genes our dogs carry - I'm guessing you are thinking about the genetic testing that has become available in recent years. No we do not have that - I don't think it is a good idea; the rabbit game tells us what is hidden and it really "spoils" the colour aspects.

So, what you have to do is plan out a test breeding project and then track the colours, guess at the likely hidden genes and then test to prove or disprove. I'm currently doing a lot of that. (We are back in the 40's and 50's before sequencing as far as genetics go - lol.

The majority of my SWD are black and brown, I'd just like to see some bicolors. I don't think it really makes a difference in the grand scheme of showing, but I'd hate to see some colors get lost if I am strictly breeding blacks and browns

quoteposted by GracefieldThe majority of my SWD are black and brown, I'd just like to see some bicolors. I don't think it really makes a difference in the grand scheme of showing, but I'd hate to see some colors get lost if I am strictly breeding blacks and browns

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Hello Gracefield

I heard your plea for other colors in the SWD, so I thought I would create this kennel for more colors

Yes, these are admin dogs, but they may help in the long run to give more colors to the breed.

If you just want to add the bi-colours (anything with white) its pretty easy.

The dog I sighted in the earlier post will carry the white markings. Find another compatible dog that has a "with white" parent - it too will carry that gene. Breed them and you "should" get 1/4 solids S/S, 1/2 Solid/parti carriers S/sp,sw, and 1/4 something with whites sp/sp (or si or sw).

Edit:The parti sire of High As Life is still available. Breed him to some of your other girls. You may not get partis but ALL of the pups will carry the parti allele and you should be able to breed one of them back to Life.

I have several Dogs that are not Black or Brown and once they come to age they will put put up as studs.

I just cleaned up the kenned couple of days ago and had to let go of some greet colored dogs because I didn't have space and they weren't selling. IM me anytime you are looking for something particular, it's tough to keep up with the forum for me.

The sit for exam is a modified version of the Stand for Exam. It is generally used in novice level classes and requires the handler to order the dog to sit and then to move away from the dog the length of the leash. The judge will then approach the dog and pet the dog's head.