These are great pants. they look great, and have dye quality. they are pretty much like the 05s, but these have much better ventilation and a pod loop in the back which alows you to carry an extra pod. very handy. likw and very comforatable. there is very good knee padding, and grion and butt padding. my only issue with tehm is that i bought 32-34 and these things could fit like 3 of me. i mananged to use the velcro waste strap and over strap them to fit me. i will get tehm taylored and let them out when i grop into them. my advice, if you stopped growing go one size to small. if you are grwoing its your call. if i would have gotten one size too small, i would grow out of tehm.

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Great pants. very similar to dye hybrids but with much more padding, a pod loop, and a littel more rugged material. i give it a 9 because the sizes are off. (i take into acound people makes sizes different, but these are so far off from a 32 its not even funny.)