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Whose baiting who now?I will never know what you have experienced in your life....just like you will never know what I have experienced, so let's not even go there .The only thing that really matters is that we know right from wrong and we treat people the way we want to be treated.

But, where we don't agree is that some things aren't required to be discussed here for the good mankind. It's just a difference of opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. I know where Philly was going with his thread (and certainly don't accuse him of having such views), but is is necessary to be discussed here at Aidsmeds?

But, where we don't agree is that some things aren't required to be discussed here for the good mankind. It's just a difference of opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. I know where Philly was going with his thread (and certainly don't accuse him of having such views), but is is necessary to be discussed here at Aidsmeds?

Why not, Cliff? Why does it bother you so much? I'm sorry that this forum represents a perfect utopia to you, but there are real people here that would like to discuss real issues that go on in the world and effect us all. Even the disturbing, frightening things that we would all rather not acknowledge. More so than most groups of people we are subjected to discrimination. I would hope we would all offer our support and voice our outrage whenever someone spews something as disgusting as this guy did because we ALL know how it feels, no matter what the hatred was focused on. I would hope we are also all willing to sadly admit it's existence and do something about it.

This has gone quite far enough. Whatever the original intention may have been, experience here all too many times has taught us that this kind of thread about racial and religious issues, among others, only leads to firefights and a lot of mean spirited exchanges.

I'm going to request that in the future members give greater careful thought before starting any thread like this again. By definition the title itself however ironically intended is only going to invite trouble. As in should Jews thank Nazis for the Holocaust and like "ironies." Or we're so liberal or whatever that we can use terminology that no one should be hurt or offended by them.

Perhaps a simpler, more straightforward expression of something on one's mind might be more acceptable. I don't know. But I do know from experience here and else where that time and time again the kind of approach which began this thread always only spells trouble and elicits little if any progressive communication.

I'm locking this thread before it goes one ugly remark further. Anyone who starts a followup one will be risking a time out. It's painful to see that Cliff even has to bother trying to explain how unacceptable a thread like this is.

If you want to discuss, debate this topic then do so but keep it civil...but what you will NOT do is attack each other..everyone here who has posted so far knows the rules on that..questions and answers can asked/given without the insults.