The Cincinnati Enquirer is reporting tonight that a deal has been struck by Ohio Right to Life and another, even-crazier, Ohio anti-abortion group. As a result, Ohio Senate President Tom Niehaus intends to take action on the heartbeat bill â€“ legislation that would ban abortion as soon as a detectable heartbeat is present, with no exception for rape, incest or a womanâ€™s health â€“ during the upcoming lame duck session of the Ohio legislature.

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A baby has a right to live no matter what stage in the womb, it is the woman's right to take care of herself to not be in a position to make those tough decisions. I do not understand how some woman can say the baby can't feel pain at this stage or that stage, um how do you know? You remembered when you were in your mothers womb? Let me guess, a scientist said this. How many times have they been wrong during their studies? Many times! When a woman becomes pregnant it's no longer just her body

Are you using a youtube link as proof of something? I'm not clicking on that. You are aware that anyone with a recording device can make a youtube video, correct?

Your first sentence is your OPINION. Thank goodness there is no legislation based on that opinion. Should a woman just become an incubator because she is pregnant? What about the man that gets her pregnant, or is this just about shaming the woman who had sex?

it is the woman's right to take care of herself to not be in a position to make those tough decisions.

Let me tell you a story about a woman who was doing her best to 'take care of herself to not be in a position to make that tough decision':

She'd had a baby 2 weeks earlier - her 2nd, that joined an older brother who was 15 mos old. Her husband got drunk, came to bed and forced her into sex - since she wasn't on hormonal bc, and had bad reactions to foams, she - not to mention that she was 2 weeks postpartum was out of options for using bc. Her husband refused to use condoms - at any point during their marriage. At her 6-week postpartum check, she finds that she is 4 weeks pregnant. Two under 2 at home, no job, a husband in school full-time, and living on financial aid....and pregnant again.

This was not a case of 'she needed to protect herself' - this was a case of spousal rape. This was not a case of 'she didn't want another baby' - this was a case of 'she was simply not ready to be pg again.'

This was me.

I do not understand how some woman can say the baby can't feel pain at this stage or that stage, um how do you know? You remembered when you were in your mothers womb? Let me guess, a scientist said this. How many times have they been wrong during their studies?

We should trust the best information we have available...and the best we have available runs counter to everything you just said.

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America isn't officially open for business until M. Bachmann stands on the House floor and summons the Anti-Christ by shouting "Benghazi!" 3 times.

No. It's still her body. Until that baby can live on it's own, it is entirely dependent on it's mother. It cannot have the same rights as a living, sentient adult.
Pregnancy is emotionally, financially and above all, physically risky to the mother. No one has the right to force her to be an incubator.

Well, upon conception. Let me explain: When a woman who is ttc get's pregnant and loses a baby- you don't hear her say I lost an embryo. I miscarried a cell. She says, " I lost a baby," no matter how far along she was. I think its funny that when we are just hypothetically talking about a woman pregnant that we start saying, it doesn't feel this and its not real. I recently had a mc and I heard the heartbeat and saw it at 6 wks. I would have known the gender at 15 wks.- when some are aborting!

While I am very sorry for your loss and understand what you are saying completely not everyone sees a fertilzed egg as a baby. When I saw all four of my children's heartbeat they looked more like a peanut. What is interesting for me is even after getting pregnant and about to have my fourth child I have become more pro choice than less. Of course I'm speaking from a personal standpoint. And the reason I have become more pro choice is because I have seen all the grey issues associated with pregnancy, child development, and birth. I've seen moms have to make the hard decisions on what to do when their babiesare diagnosed with trisomy 18 or not have their brains form. Or be so deformed that they were told that if their child survives birth it may live for a week and it will be in pain that week it lives. I don't think most people are pro abortion, heck, I do not know of any who are pro abortion. I know many including myself who would not want to make those decisions that other people on my birth board have to make, but I don't believe it is my right or the gov't. right to tell those women what they should choose because they have a beating heart. While I fall into a very slim margin of people that dont use birth control because I believe life begins at conception I understand that scientifically speaking it does not. That while I would 99.9% of the time never choose to abort, it's not my place to tell you if you are faced with a circumstance on wat you have to do. For me, abortion isn't black and white. It's not oh here is a life so it must be protected at all costs. There are many factors from money to health that women take into account when making decisions. I have more of a problem with people who are anti abortion, but are for all the austerity cuts to programs that help women and children once they are born. Where are the pro lifers fighting for the kids in foster homes? Where are the pro lifers when someone needs help with heating their home and feeding their kids? Is it life that is meaningful even if there is no quality to it? A bunch of cells does not constitute life. Not sure if you are religious but this was an interesting read. I will preface that it is not good exegesis of scripture but good read for literalist. www.thechristianleftblog.org/1/post...