Im just not a ford car guy, and the fact that they make great cars now a days is solely your opinion, and mine was that I'd never buy a fukus.. or a poostang, or pretty much anything from them but a diesel truck.

with that being said I do think they are leading the domestic market vs dodge and GM, but then still, I wouldnt buy a domestic car other than an SRT/Hellcat/vette..

Just like was talked about already in here, this apparently just happens and is talked about as being "Luck of the draw". Fuck that. You don't see that happening around here. People have their issues, but you don't see motors popping left and right.

I'd rather personally replace a water pump every 30k miles than have to deal with that a single time.

Not that I don't like the Focus ST, it seems as though I have a higher opinion of it than most people in this thread.

Sure, but the reason I give the car a lot of credit is because while Volkswagen is using the brakes to never let you get any meaningful rotation, Ford uses the brakes the make the car rotate more easily.

The guys who engineered that car did so with "fun" as the #1 priority, as they should when designing a proper hot hatch. I love my GTI for many reasons, but when I feel the ESP kick in it frustrates me.

Sure, but the reason I give the car a lot of credit is because while Volkswagen is using the brakes to never let you get any meaningful rotation, Ford uses the brakes the make the car rotate more easily.

The guys who engineered that car did so with "fun" as the #1 priority, as they should when designing a proper hot hatch. I love my GTI for many reasons, but when I feel the ESP kick in it frustrates me.

I remember racing this guys ST when we were both stage 1. We did a roll and I beat him by a couple cars. It took him full bolt plus freaktune and no-lift shift to beat me at stage 1.... I have a stock exhaust... intercooler...