Another ghost laid to rest, only a 10 year gap between trying this one and success. Felt amazingly easy when I did it, but it is very fall-off-able. I found the hardest move to be jumping my right foot up on the crux, which made the next hand move simple. Deffo 8a now without the infamous pencil hold, but there are alternatives around if you look for them. andy farnell - Lead RP - 15/Jul/07 with Ian Patterson