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The dramatic shift in the Republican Party on immigration continued Tuesday, as conservative tea party icon and possible 2016 presidential contender Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) endorsed an overhaul of the nationís immigration laws that would allow the nationís estimated 11 million illegal immigrants to obtain legalized status.
ďImmigration will not occur until conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. Thatís why Iím here today. To begin, that conversation and become part of the solution,Ē he said in a breakfast speech Tuesday morning before the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce in Washington.

Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.

What is going on in the Republican party!?! I feel like this is going to divide the party even more. Cant wait to see what happens from here.[/FONT][/COLOR]

Its like a siamese twin fighting its other half- stupid honestly It will be interesting.

Originally Posted by Ikari

Freedom cannot be brought by foreigners with a gun.

Originally Posted by Jetboogieman

The idiots on this board that fully take the republican or democrat side and think their party is the harbingers of truth and justice and the other, evil scum who are ruining the country. When you realize they're both the latter, you have reached enlightenment.

What is going on in the Republican party!?! I feel like this is going to divide the party even more. Cant wait to see what happens from here.[/FONT][/COLOR]

It's not a big surprise that a self-professed libertarian goes out of closet on this one. And most tea parties have been studiously neutral on the topic (famously refusing to endorse J.D.Hayworth against McCain in Arizona, despite being extremely frustrated with numerous McCain's positions on other issues).

Are the libertarians and moderates gathering forces to make a serious bid at controlling the GOP? It looks like they are. Are they likely to win? I wouldn't hold my breath, but stranger things happened.

What is going on in the Republican party!?! I feel like this is going to divide the party even more. Cant wait to see what happens from here.[/FONT][/COLOR]

They are afraid they will never win a presidential election and could lose control of the House. Something, btw, they need to be concerned about with the passage of the Ryan Budget

Alex Carey:

... the 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: The growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy.

Australian social scientist, quoted by Noam Chomsky in World Orders Old and New

Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.

It doesn't surprise me, but I can understand why it does surprise others. If people are exposed to Rand Paul because of the main stream media, then their opinion is based on ignorance and willful deceit.