Not a fan, although the recent photos i've seen make the car look better than the pics in the press release. Im interested to see how this car will pan out. Its prolly more of an AMG competitor than an M competitor. Toyota has enough money to compete in any space they want. History shows that it usually takes them about 3 tries to get a product right when competing in a new space.

Not a fan, although the recent photos i've seen make the car look better than the pics in the press release. Im interested to see how this car will pan out. Its prolly more of an AMG competitor than an M competitor. Toyota has enough money to compete in any space they want. History shows that it usually takes them about 3 tries to get a product right when competing in a new space.

They def have the cash. They've already bested the 7 series with the new LS460 hybrid, which has more power, better MPG, seamless hybrid integration, and a much better interior for less money. It looks better too.

I test drove an IS before going across the street to the BMW dealer to test drive an E90. The IS was cheap, thin doors, plastic cheap interior, drove like a Honda Accord. You can put an F badge, M badge, XXX badge, it is still a piece of $#!+.

[QUOTEThey def have the cash. They've already bested the 7 series with the new LS460 hybrid, which has more power, better MPG, seamless hybrid integration, and a much better interior for less money. It looks better too.][/quote]

Wrong...the LS460 cracks the 6 digit price barrier and doesn't have any where near the road feel or overall driving experience that the 7 offers.

They def have the cash. They've already bested the 7 series with the new LS460 hybrid, which has more power, better MPG, seamless hybrid integration, and a much better interior for less money. It looks better too.

Hmm...better MPG and interior...that's all I'm seeing. Handling is worse. Looks are debatable...I like the 7 more.