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Thursday, May 08, 2014

The
entire issue concerning Satan’s status throughout the Bible presents a unique
conundrum for many Christians and Bile scholars as well. It does not appear that
any one person has been able to identify and place Satan’s journey throughout
history in any chronological order, a problem that confuses, upsets and
overturns various doctrines found among eschatologists.

Satan was created as a
holy angel.Isaiah 14:12possibly gives Satan’s pre-fall name as Lucifer. Ezekiel 28:12-14describes Satan as having been created a cherubim, apparently
the highest created angel. He became arrogant in his beauty and status and
decided he wanted to sit on a throne above that of God (Isaiah 14:13-14;Ezekiel 28:15;1 Timothy 3:6). Satan’s pride led to his fall. Notice the many “I will”
statements in Isaiah 14:12-15. Because of his sin, God permanently removed Satan from his
exalted position and role. Satan became the ruler of this world and the
prince of the power of the air (John
12:31;2 Corinthians 4:4;Ephesians 2:2). He is an accuser (Revelation 12:10), a tempter (Matthew
4:3;1 Thessalonians 3:5), and a deceiver (Genesis
3;2 Corinthians 4:4;Revelation 20:3). His very name means “adversary” or “one who opposes.”
Another of his titles, the devil, means “slanderer.” Even though he was cast out of heaven, he still
seeks to elevate his throne above God. He tries to counterfeit (and his
succeeded in some things) everything that God does, hoping to gain the worship
of the world and encourage opposition to God's kingdom. Satan is the ultimate
source behind every false cult and world religion. Satan will do anything and
everything in his power to oppose God and those who follow God. However,
Satan’s destiny is sealed—an eternity in the lake of fire (Revelation 20:10).

One
of the first times mentioned (or inferences) of diabolical forces are made in the Bible is found in the Genesis account
in Chapter 3, where Adam and Eve were
tempted by the snake(identified by most people as being Satan) to eat the fruit
of the tree of knowledge of God and evil.

In
Chapter 6, we see “the sons of God” cohabiting with the daughters of men and
begetting the so-called Nephilim, who became giants and men of renown. Many
eschatologists and Bible theorists believe these “Sons of Gods” are diabolical angelic
beings who left their former estate in Heaven and co-mingled with the human
race and thereby created a human hybrid (Nephilim), whose spirits (after they
died supposedly) have been bound to earth to roam as spiritual entities that we
today call demons. One question begs to be asked: Should these “sons of God”
who left their former habitations in Heaven be identified as the one third of
the angels that left Heaven along with Satan when he rebelled against God?

As
we read in the Book of Job, it appears that Satan had access to God at that
time (which no one has been able to confirm the exact date) where” 6 One day the angels came to present themselves before theLord, and Satan also came with them.7 TheLordsaid to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered theLord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.” 8 Then theLordsaid to Satan, “Have you
considered my servant Job?There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a
man who fears Godand shuns evil.”

The next place in the Bible where we see an inference being made to Satan (or
the devil), where he is commonly referred to as
a 'fallen' angel - meaning, he is an angel who rebelled and sinned against God
is in Ezekiel 28:14-18. Supposedly, angels, including Satan, have free-will
(just like we do) and they chose to disobey God. Supposedly One-third of the
other Angels also followed Satan and were cast out of heaven, although, we do
not see how many angels actually left Heaven with Satan until Revelation 12:4,
which does not necessarily identify actual angels but calls them “stars” as
inferred by many theorists as well.

In the book of Ezekiel 28:14-18,
we see a group of scripture that many theorists believe is not only describing
the entity they call Satan, but an actually story from his beginning to his
demise.

You were
anointed as a guardian cherub,for so I ordained you.You were on the holy mount of God;you walked among the fiery stones.

You were blameless in your waysfrom the day you were createdtill wickedness was found in you.

Through your widespread tradeyou were filled with violence,and you sinned.So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of
God,and I expelled you, O guardian cherub,from among the fiery stones.

Your heart became proudon account of your beauty,and you corrupted your wisdombecause of your splendor.So I threw you to the earth;I made a spectacle of you before kings.

By your many sins and dishonest tradeyou have desecrated your sanctuaries.So I made a fire come out from you,and it consumed you,and I reduced you to ashes on the groundin the sight of all who were watching.

Revelation,
Chapter 12 provides us with a convoluted narrative that thousands of theorists
throughout history have tried to explain away, including how many angels comprise Satan’s diabolical army, along with futurists’ explanation as
to what happens in the period known as the “end times.”:3 And another sign appeared in heaven:
behold, a great,red
dragon,with seven heads andten horns, and on his headsseven diadems.4 His
tail swept downa third of the
stars of heaven andcast them to
the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth,
so that when she bore her childhe
might devour it.5 She gave birth to a male child,one who is to rule all the nations
with a rod of iron, but her child wascaught
up to God and to his throne,6 and the woman fled into the wilderness,
where she has a place prepared by God, in which she is to be nourished for1,260 days.

Satan Thrown Down to Earth

7 Now war arose in heaven,Michael andhis
angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back,8 but he
was defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven.9 Andthe great dragon was
thrown down,that ancient
serpent, who is called the devil and Satan,the
deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were
thrown down with him,

“Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom
of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers
and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled
down.

11They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by
the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink
from death. 12Therefore
rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the
sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he
knows that his time is short, (Revelation
12:3-12)”

We see another conundrumatic scenario concerning the
status of (fallen) angels in Jude 1:6 where, “…the angels who did not keep their positions
of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness,
bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.”

If Satan is to be
considered an “angel” should we view him as being among these entities we see held
in the same captivity as are these above? Should we therefore see where Satan
has been thrown down in Revelation 12:3-9 and Jude 1:6 as being the same
occasion? If so, when does this occur? At Calvary or yet some time in the
future immediately before Christ returns? The above scripture (Jude 1:6) is
stated immediately after we see the following remarks in verse 5:” “Though you
already know all this,I want to
remind youthat the Lordat one time delivered his
people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe, (Jude
1:5).” Should we picture that this angelic incarceration happened right after the
“Exodus?”

We see Satan in many other scripture throughout the
Bible (where he is aggravating Christ and His ministry as well as tempting Him
to bow before him) but no other scripture to pinpoint Satan’s journey (in or
out of Heaven) in any chronological fashion, other than the final scenario
where we see in Revelation 20:10, where the serpent, the devil, Satan, is seen being
felled by fire from above, and then thrown into the Lake of Fire.

Many theorists see Satan being bound for “a thousand
years” beginning at the cross, which is where the devil was defeated and could
no longer rule over mankind as he did before Christ paid the price for the sins
of mankind. Many see Satan being bound for 1000 literal years beginning on the
day when Christ returns to earth to set up a literal one thousand year
millennium period, then is let loose for a short period of time after the 1000
years, then destroys him right before he amasses the armies of Gog and Magog to
attack Jesus’ temporary headquarters at the City of Jerusalem, inside the
country of the state of Israel, where (supposedly) Jesus has supervised the
Jewish kingdom for one thousand years.

Therefore
the question begs to be asked, when was Satan kicked out of or fell from
Heaven? Did
this happen at the beginning of time when He came to earth and cohabitated with
human women, as we read in Genesis 6:1-2? Or was it during the days of Isaiah,
as we see in Isaiah 14:12? Was it when Christ defeated Satan when He paid the
price for sin at the cross, or immediately before Calvary when He told the
disciples He saw Satan fall falling from heaven as we read in Luke 10:17-19? Will this happen when Christ returns (during The Rapture or
seven years after) to rule on earth for 1000 years? More importantly, where is
Satan at right now? Is he still in Heaven accusing God’s children, held
prisoner in the abyss for 1000 literal years (called the Millennium), or is he
currently roaming around like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour?

If we
cannot accurately answer these questions, we have to assume Satan has unlimited
access to some form of a shuttle bus that takes him back and forth to Heaven
(while still bound in the abyss for 1000) years), or, our eschatological
polemics have no exegetical authority whatsoever.

Most
Premillennial Dispensationalists present various chronological scenarios in
their ‘futurists’ dogma, while many others, such as Preterist (apersonwho believes
that thepropheciesintheApocalypsehave alreadybeenfulfilled) who maintains
that since Jesus has already returned (in 70 AD),then Satan has already been
sent to the Lake of Fire and his current status is moot!

What say ye?

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Joe Ortiz has the distinction of being the first Mexican American in US history to conduct a talk show on an English-language, commercial radio station. He began his broadcasting career in 1971 at KABC TALK RADIO 790 AM in the highly competitive Los Angeles media market. He went on to become an award-winning broadcaster, news reporter and newspaper columnist in Los Angeles for over 30 years. Semi-retired, he promotes his three books on theology, is the President of the "Official Tom Flores Fan Club" and manages several blogs and web sites, and his public relations consulting company at Joe Ortiz Associates ~