Alright call me crazy, but I've seem to notice a LOT of Wi-Fi battle teams have been adding Ryhyperior on their team. I haven't looked at his exact stats, but I believe they're too high to be considered normal. It seems like going against him seems pointless because he either kills you in one shot, or he gets hit with only little damage done against him. Is it just me or is he too strong?

Fri May 11, 2007 9:10 pm

Krisp

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<s>Rhyperior may have two awesome stats, but other than that, it's not THAT awesome. It has a few main flaws.

-No speed. With it's pisspoor special defense, this thing is going DOWN in one hit with Surf (and I'm sure most of the pokemon that learn surf are faster than it), or pretty much any special water/grass type.

-4x weakness to water and grass.

-Lightning Rod ability is completely useless unless you're fighting 2 on 2. (yes I know there is another ability.)

I'm not sure how it's other ability works, but I guess it could conflict with the first thing I mentioned (about it's weaknesses.)

I would NOT consider it an uber for sure, no where NEAR uber. I doubt it will even be considered OU.</s>

Nevermind, I didn't know about it's other ability and that Sandstorm raised it's special defense by 25%.

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Fri May 11, 2007 9:19 pm

snowball

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strong defense and uber at attack but imo he's weak if you just use a special attack move.

Fri May 11, 2007 9:19 pm

FaceLess

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Well, Skarmory doesn't have much special defense either, but it was massively popular for a while.

Just because it gets stomped by it's weakness doesn't mean you can use it in battle.

One of best abilities in game, in my opinion. I'd say it's just a juggernaut - difficult to kill by conventional means, but very possible. I'd say a good spec. sweeper could kill it in two powerful spec. skills, such as Hydro Pump, Thunder, etc.

According to http://www.smogon.com, it now raises the Sp. Def of all Rock-Type Poke'mon by 25%. (Same boost as when you use Calm Mind, for example) This, along with Hard Rock, pretty much cancels out the 4x weakness Rhyperior has to Water and Grass. And all his other weaknesses get cut too, so that's why he's being put on so many teams.

Tyranitar now automatically gets the boost too, so he's gonna be listed as Uber....

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Sat May 12, 2007 7:38 am

Heybunny

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Well I've always used Rhydon, I love the look of them so I was always going to use Rhyperior as well and I like to use Pokémon that aren't so popular if at all possible, so this kinda sucks. I'm glad to hear about this sandstorm thing as well as Solid Rock though.

One of best abilities in game, in my opinion. I'd say it's just a juggernaut - difficult to kill by conventional means, but very possible. I'd say a good spec. sweeper could kill it in two powerful spec. skills, such as Hydro Pump, Thunder, etc.

Take thunder off the list, Rhyperior has the type ground. [And Treeckomaster, don't say "He has ground in him." its really stupid.]

I fought the Tower Tycoon ??????'s Rhyperior, and Empoleon killed him in one hit with Surf. I switched out Staraptor for Empoleon then Rhyperior used Ice Beam...wth? But I lost because his Dragonite KO'd Luxray in one hit...stupid Dragon Rush.
But I would say Rhyperior is lousy because of low Speed and Special.

Rhyperior would be a good addition to any team (unless they have Tyranitar, like myself). Sure he has poor self defense/speed but the proper strats can counter that and take advantage of its much higher stats.

1. Rhyperior has one exclusive move: Rock Wrecker, which is the Rock-version of Giga Impact with 150 base power and user cannot attack next turn, albeit, Stone Edge is better, IMO.

2. If you focus on the low Speed of Rhyperior´s you can have him hold the "Quick Claw" OR look at the 3rd consideration.

3. Low Speed? -> There is something in this world called "Trick Room" which, even if Rhyperior cannot learn it, Bronzong could use it and then Explode, to then put a 4-turn Trick Room Rhyperior hullabaloo, and it can even throw some Curses or Arm Hammers to get more (less) speed while Trick Room.

4. Solid Rock is one fantabulous ability, right, and Rhyperior´s 4x weaknesses are lowered by 66%, but if you count Sandbonus as 25% more Sp. Def, special 4x weaknesses are pretty lowered, and so 2x ones are.

5. Rhyperior is definitely an integrant of any expert-calibre Trick Team (Trick Room-roaming team) or Sander Team (Sandstorm-dwelling team) , but definitely not an integrant for teams with free, mixed structure, for he will never be nearly as kewl as the structured-teams aforementioned.

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Sat May 12, 2007 1:29 pm

R-cubed

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How do you get Rhyperior to have the ability that makes it reduce damage from super effectivie hits. Rhydon only has Lightning rod and Rock head so when it evolves does lightning rod change or what happens.

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Sat May 12, 2007 1:37 pm

Heybunny

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R-cubed wrote:

How do you get Rhyperior to have the ability that makes it reduce damage from super effectivie hits. Rhydon only has Lightning rod and Rock head so when it evolves does lightning rod change or what happens.

Well Rhyperior can still have Lightning Rod, so I presume that it converts Rock Head to Solid Rock.

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