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We were all set to get an Acura RDX and then my wife happened to check the X3 website again. Needless to say, a few hours at the dealer and she wants nothing but the new X3. The interior is such a huge improvement and the ride is quite nice. Of course, they had her at power tailgate.

So now it's time to start figuring out the numbers. I've found invoice prices on the base model, but not for any of the option packages. Does anyone have them? Does anyone have lease rates as well? We're looking at the xDrive28.

Also, I assume that dealers aren't coming down from MSRP given how hot these things are. Is anyone having any luck bargaining up from invoice? Or bargaining at all?

When did Bimmerfest stop posting US & Euro Delivery invoices prices? I don't see them in the stickies anymore...

BMWNA started contacting the web sites some time ago (late last year or early this, I think) and convinced them to remove the copyrighted internal BMW documents. No problem with discussing the invoice prices, it is just the actual BMW confidential material that is now taboo.

Before you actually buy it make SURE your wife takes it for a long test drive and goes over some rough pavement, pot holed streets, and raised expansion jointed concrete roadways. Otherwise it may be a long three years until your lease is up.

Before you actually buy it make SURE your wife takes it for a long test drive and goes over some rough pavement, pot holed streets, and raised expansion jointed concrete roadways. Otherwise it may be a long three years until your lease is up.

We both gave it a test drive last weekend and were surprised by how nice the ride was, even going over speed bumps. I surmise that people that think the new X3 has a terrible ride are people who haven't actually driven one.

I understand about the copyrighted invoice documents, but still nothing on lease rates?

Mike, its not the "speed bumps" its the broken pavement, pot holed streets, and raised expansion jointed concrete roadways that cause the latte to spill on the Chanel suit and the lipstick to be smeared. I sincerely hope that BMW has gotten the message that the X3 rode too stiff and fixed it.

Mike, its not the "speed bumps" its the broken pavement, pot holed streets, and raised expansion jointed concrete roadways that cause the latte to spill on the Chanel suit and the lipstick to be smeared. I sincerely hope that BMW has gotten the message that the X3 rode too stiff and fixed it.

Does California maintain its roadways properly? My X3 rides pretty well over most of the expansion joints in VA-NC-SC even at speeds 70-85mph (140km/h). Certainly would not cause a spill from an open drink (not allowed anyway) or break one's back. On the other hand, some of the bridges in MD......let's just say the engineers there must have not used a ruler.

Az, lets be charitable and say that CA's roadways are a "work in progress". The state has run out of money (don't get me started on that!) and one of the things left undone is permanent repairs to the roadways. Lots of "patching" and indeed some actual work, but all too often it is left undone until the potholes swallow a Smart Car or Mini. Not a good place to try out your new X3 if you are at all concerned with harsh ride problems. As far as the latte spilling, yes it can happen, right out of the pax cupholder (which is kind of a joke anyway) and onto the lap, not an open cup but enough latte came out to cause serious stain damage to the Cream colored suit. You mention bridges, yes that is a problem here. The "transition" from the roadway to the bridge is often marked by a huge"bump" that really tells you how stiff that suspension is. Except for the deluge down in SoCal the weather makes up for most of the problems and it was my fault for not fully checking out the X3 over these horrible roads before I bought it. Mea Culpa!

Yes, we went with the 28, with Cold weather, convenience, tech, and premium packages.

While both my wife and i could tell the difference between the 35 and the 28, we ultimately decided she didn't need a high-performance engine. If she truly dislikes it, we can always upgrade in a few years. I found that from a stop, the 28 has a lot of smooth power, but I found it lagged at times when slowing down and quickly speeding up again. The transmission took a while to figure itself out. Either way it's a big upgrade from her old Rav4 :-D

Yes, we went with the 28, with Cold weather, convenience, tech, and premium packages.

While both my wife and i could tell the difference between the 35 and the 28, we ultimately decided she didn't need a high-performance engine. If she truly dislikes it, we can always upgrade in a few years. I found that from a stop, the 28 has a lot of smooth power, but I found it lagged at times when slowing down and quickly speeding up again. The transmission took a while to figure itself out. Either way it's a big upgrade from her old Rav4 :-D