Evidently you don't win much, because the same thing always happens with local books. As soon as you start winning, they start sqeezing you, and then you just don't get paid. All of my relationships with local have ended with them owing me money. One has owed me over $100k for 5 years. I haven't seen a penny of it, and never will. So in the end you can't win with a local because you will either lose and he'll love you, or you'll win and won't get paid.

speaking of that ponzi scheme i heard about from full tilt poker, yeah if you are going to be processing us bank transactions with customers from the US of A, then you better be damn straight about paying up when the request for withdrawal is made otherwise you get your behind in hot water don't you. Do we not need more spending into this economy from our online poker payouts or not? LOL

Van quick question for you and I'm sorry if it has been discussed already...

I currently have a big amount (for me anyways) online spread across 3 books. (5dimes, heritage, betonline) All 3 are solid review wise but I'm always scared something is going to happen based on recent events and things you have spoke of earlier. Would you try to get most of the money out immediately or what? My online accounts consist of over 50% of my total funds so I can't afford for something to go wrong where my money gets frozen. I have withdrawn slowly over the past couple months but the obvious problem is getting large amounts withdrawn quickly.

Van quick question for you and I'm sorry if it has been discussed already...

I currently have a big amount (for me anyways) online spread across 3 books. (5dimes, heritage, betonline) All 3 are solid review wise but I'm always scared something is going to happen based on recent events and things you have spoke of earlier. Would you try to get most of the money out immediately or what? My online accounts consist of over 50% of my total funds so I can't afford for something to go wrong where my money gets frozen. I have withdrawn slowly over the past couple months but the obvious problem is getting large amounts withdrawn quickly.

Curious on your take.

1 - What has happened recently?

2 - You answered your own question. You say you can't afford to have your money frozen, so you better clear out all 3 accounts fast and leave some into bet with. ( for example if you have a total of 5k spread across 3 books, I'd take out 4k.)

3 - Nothing bad has really happened since last April, so it is up to you to decide how dangerous things are, but remember. You could wake up tmrw and all your money COULD be frozen. Will that happen? Most likely no but you are always rolling the dice with these offshore books.

Currently I only have funds in 5dimes and its not much. I also have two locals that I deal with. It's annoying, wish there were more options but this is what i'm comfortable with at the present time.

Maybe I'll move to Canada .

5Dimes is just about the only acceptable American facing book left.

I give them a lot of credit. They really dont have to do all that they do - like spotless pay record, reduced juice, tons and tons of betting options - but they do - and they remain despite being really a dinosaur. They are the only one of their kind left.

I used to criticze them all the time here. I laughed at them because they limited players to almost nothing if you bet big and won. I dont anymore - in fact - if I could retract everything I said 5-10 years ago about them I would. Pinnacle is gone. Matchbook is gone. Mansion is gone. All the books of the time that made 5dimes look like a rec book are gone. 5dimes is still here - for now....

And until they leave - which seems inevitable based on the industy's history - props to them.

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