I would always like to err on the side of wait and see (Nagy doesn’t have a playoff game to coach), but yea. Nagy seems far more on his game then McD at this point. is this a sign of perspective coordinators opinion if each coach?

minnesotacubsfan wrote:I would always like to err on the side of wait and see (Nagy doesn’t have a playoff game to coach), but yea. Nagy seems far more on his game then McD at this point. is this a sign of perspective coordinators opinion if each coach?

if those were the bears' coordinator hires i'd be ready to jump off a building as a fan

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minnesotacubsfan wrote:I would always like to err on the side of wait and see (Nagy doesn’t have a playoff game to coach), but yea. Nagy seems far more on his game then McD at this point. is this a sign of perspective coordinators opinion if each coach?

if those were the bears' coordinator hires i'd be ready to jump off a building as a fan

The OC has been in the NFL since 2008, with one year in the middle working at Alabama.The bears OC has zero NFL experience and was in a broadcast booth last year. They are at least on similar ground.

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minnesotacubsfan wrote:I would always like to err on the side of wait and see (Nagy doesn’t have a playoff game to coach), but yea. Nagy seems far more on his game then McD at this point. is this a sign of perspective coordinators opinion if each coach?

if those were the bears' coordinator hires i'd be ready to jump off a building as a fan

The OC has been in the NFL since 2008, with one year in the middle working at Alabama.The bears OC has zero NFL experience and was in a broadcast booth last year. They are at least on similar ground.

i think college HC and coordinator (particularly in one of the more innovative offensive systems around) is a much stronger resume than the entry level assistant roles this peetz dude has held for most of that time...he just this season made it as high as qb coach. not to mention the first few years of that was in a scouting capacity.

if it's true, i can't help but think it adds some credence to the idea that mcdaniels is a jag that nobody (players or coaches) would like working with.

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Some non-QB FAs I think can be good buys for teams during the FA period. Cap’s exploding over the next three years, these are guys I think can look like relative bargains:

Ryan Jensen - Only a one year starter but as the center of FO’s 6th ranked run blocking OL and 4th in pass protection. Has a whole red hair gimmick thing for the folks watching at home. Zach Fulton might get similar money and has never started. I’m expecting $9-10 million

Trey Burton - Top ten TE by both DVOA and DYAR in 2017. If someone wants a potential posession guy sign this guy instead of Jarvis Landry and save $6+ million. I’m thinking he gets anywhere from $6-8 million

Paul Richardson WR - Top 25 WR by DYAR and top 20 by DVOA in 2017 with 6 TDs. $10 million

Chris Hubbard RT - Shorter RT but versatile and was servicable filling in for Gilbert with the Steelers. I like James from the Dolphins more but they have to cut him whereas Hubbard is a UFA. $7 million? James might get $10 million if cut, league is really short on OT talent.

Adrian Clayborn DE - Yes, 6 of his sacks came in one game but still a solid and somewhat versatile pass rusher. $10 million

EJ Gaines - Breeland, Dennard, and Robinson are three other starting outside CBs after Johnson and Fuller that will get lots of attention, but Gaines was strong for a very good pass defense and offers a little more versatility. My favorite buy among the CBs this offseason. If someone really wants to get nuts, Revis wasn’t terrible last year and might sign both late and cheap.

Trent Murphy DE/LB - Coming off a torn ACL, but did put up 9 sacks in 2016. Beastly 6.78 3-cone during the 2014 combine at 250+.

Yeah Murphy is where you dig into injured guys (Eifert), pick-your-Buster Skrine slot CB no one will really like (the Rams guy? Colvin from the Jags?) in a couple years...I like Vaccaro for someone out there among injured veterans.

Some guys I think get way overpaid (it’s not going to be Cousins, Bell, Johnson, Lawrence, or Norwell; those guys are studs):

Literally every non-Cousins QB, though maybe Chase Daniel is next year’s Keenum

Jarvis Landry - Does lots of things well, making big plays is not one of them. Catches the ball but the guys who get paid what he is asking or more do stuff like score TDs

Sefarian-Jenkins - Crazy tools, ideal frame, but literally one of the worst players in the NFL last year by DVOA and DYAR, asking for $6-8 million

Jimmy Graham - Someome will pay for the 10 TDs he caught but otherwise hasn’t been a top TE in a while

TomtheBombadil wrote:Some non-QB FAs I think can be good buys for teams during the FA period. Cap’s exploding over the next three years, these are guys I think can look like relative bargains:

Ryan Jensen - Only a one year starter but as the center of FO’s 6th ranked run blocking OL and 4th in pass protection. Has a whole red hair gimmick thing for the folks watching at home. Zach Fulton might get similar money and has never started. I’m expecting $9-10 million

Trey Burton - Top ten TE by both DVOA and DYAR in 2017. If someone wants a potential posession guy sign this guy instead of Jarvis Landry and save $6+ million. I’m thinking he gets anywhere from $6-8 million

Paul Richardson WR - Top 25 WR by DYAR and top 20 by DVOA in 2017 with 6 TDs. $10 million

Chris Hubbard RT - Shorter RT but versatile and was servicable filling in for Gilbert with the Steelers. I like James from the Dolphins more but they have to cut him whereas Hubbard is a UFA. $7 million? James might get $10 million if cut, league is really short on OT talent.

Adrian Clayborn DE - Yes, 6 of his sacks came in one game but still a solid and somewhat versatile pass rusher. $10 million

EJ Gaines - Breeland, Dennard, and Robinson are three other starting outside CBs after Johnson and Fuller that will get lots of attention, but Gaines was strong for a very good pass defense and offers a little more versatility. My favorite buy among the CBs this offseason. If someone really wants to get nuts, Revis wasn’t terrible last year and might sign both late and cheap.

Trent Murphy DE/LB - Coming off a torn ACL, but did put up 9 sacks in 2016. Beastly 6.78 3-cone during the 2014 combine at 250+.

Yeah Murphy is where you dig into injured guys (Eifert), pick-your-Buster Skrine slot CB no one will really like (the Rams guy? Colvin from the Jags?) in a couple years...I like Vaccaro for someone out there among injured veterans.

Some guys I think get way overpaid (it’s not going to be Cousins, Bell, Johnson, Lawrence, or Norwell; those guys are studs):

Literally every non-Cousins QB, though maybe Chase Daniel is next year’s Keenum

Jarvis Landry - Does lots of things well, making big plays is not one of them. Catches the ball but the guys who get paid what he is asking or more do stuff like score TDs

Sefarian-Jenkins - Crazy tools, ideal frame, but literally one of the worst players in the NFL last year by DVOA and DYAR, asking for $6-8 million

Jimmy Graham - Someome will pay for the 10 TDs he caught but otherwise hasn’t been a top TE in a while

Ezekiel Ansah - Too many injuries

Good list. These are the types of guys I want the Bears to look at. Teams usually regret star chasing in free agency in the NFL, unless they are at the point where they are that 1 star player away from being an elite team.

I'd also add:

Junior Galette- he's turning 30 and going to be 4 years removed from back-to-back double digit sack seasons. But he was one of the most productive pass rushers in limited snaps last year coming off injury. Should only require a 1 or 2 year deal for cheap.

Jeremiah Attaochu- had 6 sacks in a limited role in 2015. Dealt with injuries the last 2 years and the Chargers moved to a 4-3 making him an odd fit. Just turned 25.

Ross Cockrell- tossed aside by the Steelers after 2016 despite being solid. Above average (per PFF) for the Giants this past season.

Kony Ealy- has had a pretty weird career. Slow start, then had a huge Superbowl for Carolina. Traded to the Patriots, who cut him soon after. But then had a decent season for the Jets. Only 26.

Also guys like DaQuan Jones, Albert Wilson, Beau Allen, and Donte Moncrief are guys who could either start for a team or have a pretty prominent role for under the 5M per year mark.

And if I'm a team like Jacksonville, NY Giants, Saints, etc. that has either an iffy QB or an old QB, I'd definitely bring in Teddy Bridgewater. He's one of my top graded QBs in the last 5 years and is still just 25. He can definitely play if he's healthy.

rawaction wrote:Good list. These are the types of guys I want the Bears to look at. Teams usually regret star chasing in free agency in the NFL, unless they are at the point where they are that 1 star player away from being an elite team.

I'd also add:

Junior Galette- he's turning 30 and going to be 4 years removed from back-to-back double digit sack seasons. But he was one of the most productive pass rushers in limited snaps last year coming off injury. Should only require a 1 or 2 year deal for cheap.

Jeremiah Attaochu- had 6 sacks in a limited role in 2015. Dealt with injuries the last 2 years and the Chargers moved to a 4-3 making him an odd fit. Just turned 25.

Ross Cockrell- tossed aside by the Steelers after 2016 despite being solid. Above average (per PFF) for the Giants this past season.

Kony Ealy- has had a pretty weird career. Slow start, then had a huge Superbowl for Carolina. Traded to the Patriots, who cut him soon after. But then had a decent season for the Jets. Only 26.

Also guys like DaQuan Jones, Albert Wilson, Beau Allen, and Donte Moncrief are guys who could either start for a team or have a pretty prominent role for under the 5M per year mark.

And if I'm a team like Jacksonville, NY Giants, Saints, etc. that has either an iffy QB or an old QB, I'd definitely bring in Teddy Bridgewater. He's one of my top graded QBs in the last 5 years and is still just 25. He can definitely play if he's healthy.

Bridgewater’s one of my favorite college players ever so I will root hard for him but he’s going to cash in on what I see as wildly overstated pro starter potential. IIRC amputation was seriously considered for his injury, I just cannot imagine that leg holding up in the NFL.

Moncrief’s too one dimensional for me, maybe could do well in a deep offense that can let him just run deep. He is actually the kind of FA I would avoid this year, but I root for a terrible team with no QB. DaQuan Jones is a really good name for the list. Attaochu doesn’t have much FA competition as a pass rusher, seems interesting enough.

One thing I did not notice until doing this is how bad the offensive tackle situation is in the league. Initially when I checked out upcoming NFL free agents it was specifically to find OTs, but until the Dolphins foolishly hopefully cut James I can’t say anyone is so interesting.