TOM: It works very well; widely distributed, environmentally friendly; works on cabinets, works on glass, works on mirrors, works on walls. That’s probably a good first step. If you find that the grease or the dirt is so thick that you need something heavier, then I would tell you to use TSP. That’s just something that you use like, for example, if you have smoke on the walls and that sort of thing. TSP stands for trisodium phosphate.

MARIE: Oh.

TOM: It’s available at hardware stores and home centers and you can mix it up.

LESLIE: Yeah, it’s like a paint-prepping product.

TOM: Yeah, it really …

MARIE: Called TSP?

TOM: TSP, yes. Mm-hmm.

MARIE: Oh, OK.

TOM: But I would start with the easy stuff first; Simple Green works really well.

MARIE: Oh, well, that’s good. I’m going to try that then, if it works that good.

TOM: OK?

MARIE: OK. And listen, thank you very much and I listen to your show every weekend.