min. WG money loss: [T26E5 + AMX M4 49]-> 345* 35.8€ + 310*42.39 = 12351+13141 == 25493 €
This is only from those few who participated in THIS poll, if i had to speculate i bet at least 10k people would throw their money for amx and another 10k for T26E5... why do i care ? leverage

I bought a black mutz because I didn't have a normal one... However I disagree with them being independant tanks (perhaps even taking up client space) where they could have sold the black camouflage independantly and made bundles with discounted premiuns and black camouflage...

What makes me furious is WG EU selling super nice premium tanks most people want to have - but refuse to bring in the version that doesn't look like a clown. Clown camouflage might be great for some people, but to me it ruins the emersion of the game. I held back buying both but will purchase 1 or both if offered as a normal-camouflaged premium tank.

I bought a black mutz because I didn't have a normal one... However I disagree with them being independant tanks (perhaps even taking up client space) where they could have sold the black camouflage independantly and made bundles with discounted premiuns and black camouflage...

What makes me furious is WG EU selling super nice premium tanks most people want to have - but refuse to bring in the version that doesn't look like a clown. Clown camouflage might be great for some people, but to me it ruins the emersion of the game. I held back buying both but will purchase 1 or both if offered as a normal-camouflaged premium tank.

I don't have a problem with them selling special editions of tanks (Patriot, Liberty, Black editions, Mutz, etc) because there are people who will buy them and I would rather not see 8 Liberties or Black Mutzes in a battle. I do wish they would sell the standard versions of M26e5, AMX M4/49, Pz 58 (non-Mutz/ non black), AMX 13/57, and M41 90, even if only on an occasional basis.

Of course, I play mostly on the NA server but it would be nice if they didn't favor one server over the other with premiums. The NA and EU server populations are constantly watching each other so one group is always ( often justifiably ) angry because the other got an exclusive deal.

Yes, and most important. You had an option to buy the ingame camos and put it on the Berlin tank without looking stupid like the clowns Pat and Lib and Skorpion G etc.

ps. Sorry to people that think this tanks looks good. This is my opinion and rant.

Its not even a matter if looking good or not it should simply be optional and tanks like the scorpion hat something fitting mostly for dessert but still it basically looked like something that a crew might actually put on a tank.

And if it was a skin in the first place everyone would win thats the issue the ones like me who want a unpainted version would win and give them their money the ones who do want the paintjob would win since they give them their money too and that would also make wargaming win bigtime if you just offer the choice to apply the paintjob.

Thats the issue right now I bought neither tank neither the Liberte nor the Patriot for considering its price if 100 people in eu are like me they already loose quite alot of money simply not offering it.

From no standpoint it makes sence the unpainted tank would have been cheaper for them to make in the first place cause the flag skins were extra effort and now they try to push a product many people don't want in the first place litteraly cutting their own profit there.

The most crazy thing they know the B tanks were a flop and they knew people said they want the tank but unpainted they even admitted it yet keep doing this.

Its litteraly like shooting yourself in the foot and as your bleeding and relise how dumb it was to do that you simply shoot yourself in the other foot hoping that this time it will go better.

Honestly at some point someone I think WG russia might just get a mail from a EU user, or relise themself how much money they loose by not offering it. Wargaming EU can only screw up so much before Russia steps in, because remember were talking about LOST SALES aka uncle wargaming making less money here then they could.

Lets just take some figures here if like I said 100People just pass on the Patriot cause of its camo then wargaming looses 3580€ lets say this is 1000 people wich is quite reallistic aswell the money lost by not offering the unpainted version climbs up to 35800€ wich even for a company as big as wargaming gets to a point where they will start noticing things.

I really would've wanted clown-free tanks but I sadly gave into temptation this morning and got the damn Freedom tank with the camo.. Knowing what WGEU is like I'm not holding my breath to ever get the camo-free versions..

I think it was a [edited]move by WG EU to not offer the plain versions of the clown cars when everyone else got them but I admit that it's unlikely I'd have bought either of them anyway. Seeing the plain Liberty listed in the reward boxes for the Christmas tree thing might be a sign that they'll be retained as reward tanks. But it's WG EU, so it's just as likely to be a sign of a two-headed calf being born in Luxembourg.