then it's 6/6 because I remember matt saying he got a text from LT saying no flex.

and mind u if that was the case we give Commish the 1.5 votes for even tiebreakers.
so its not flex
Its flex. The question now is 3 WR plus flex or 2 WR plus flex. This is a riot, I only voted flex because I didn't want 3 WR. I would have voted no flex if I thought we could still do 3 WR.

DavenIII

07-17-2012, 04:22 PM

I highly disagree on that, I think WRs are too stacked to only have a mandatory two receivers.

So that means u just go RB heavy and then u can still get a WR like Reggie Wayne or STevie Johnson as your WR2...

no stratagy, no skill, it kills the game. FORCE people to have to account for 3 WRs and the RB power won't exist

There is no REASON to go RB heavy Matt, WR's and RB's are interchangeable neither gives you significantly more Fantasy points anymore, RB's used to, but not anymore...and your "Wr's are deeper" argument doesn't come into effect unless we have like 20+ teams....people are going to have their starting lineup finished before you have to worry about the depth on WR or RB running out and having to use a **** player.

then it's 6/6 because I remember matt saying he got a text from LT saying no flex.

and mind u if that was the case we give Commish the 1.5 votes for even tiebreakers.
so its not flex
Its flex. The question now is 3 WR plus flex or 2 WR plus flex. This is a riot, I only voted flex because I didn't want 3 WR. I would have voted no flex if I thought we could still do 3 WR.

whats the difference? Nothing should change by your theory. U just take a stab at WRs since its luck and play for RBs if it lands

then it's 6/6 because I remember matt saying he got a text from LT saying no flex.

and mind u if that was the case we give Commish the 1.5 votes for even tiebreakers.
so its not flex Its flex. The question now is 3 WR plus flex or 2 WR plus flex. This is a riot, I only voted flex because I didn't want 3 WR. I would have voted no flex if I thought we could still do 3 WR.never filpflop man!!</P>

</P>

DavenIII

07-17-2012, 04:24 PM

NEW VOTE

2 WR FLEX: Lawl, Pappy

3 WR FLEX: Me, Daven, Amanda

(just called her and asked and she said its ludacris to be forced to only start 2 WRs. EVerybody will have stacked WRs)

smart girl

you should say clever girl instead of smart girl, and neither is really true in this situation, you've just trained her...and that's terrible lol.

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 04:26 PM

I highly disagree on that, I think WRs are too stacked to only have a mandatory two receivers.

So that means u just go RB heavy and then u can still get a WR like Reggie Wayne or STevie Johnson as your WR2...

no stratagy, no skill, it kills the game. FORCE people to have to account for 3 WRs and the RB power won't exist

There is no REASON to go RB heavy Matt, WR's and RB's are interchangeable neither gives you significantly more Fantasy points anymore, RB's used to, but not anymore...and your "Wr's are deeper" argument doesn't come into effect unless we have like 20+ teams....people are going to have their starting lineup finished before you have to worry about the depth on WR or RB running out and having to use a **** player.

when you have WR3s out there like Reggie WAyne and STevie Johnson caliber that u could easily put in at WR2, u don't have to worry baout RB.. make sure u get the pick of the litter at RB and let WR go to the back burner. Its what most would do. ESPECIALLY in a year where RB talent is not deep

then it's 6/6 because I remember matt saying he got a text from LT saying no flex.

and mind u if that was the case we give Commish the 1.5 votes for even tiebreakers.
so its not flex
Its flex. The question now is 3 WR plus flex or 2 WR plus flex. This is a riot, I only voted flex because I didn't want 3 WR. I would have voted no flex if I thought we could still do 3 WR.

don't worry, it's not gonna pass anyhow.

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 04:27 PM

Pappy, make your selection on the initial vote with the knowledge that we're going to put the compromise up to vote.

REgardless my vote will stay the same and I will vote for WR3 Flex

SG88

07-17-2012, 04:27 PM

It's been a while since I have posted up in this joint. Barely been on at all since I got promoted to Zone Supervisor. I see what's going on and I am going to vote for 3 WR flex. Looking forward to getting back what's rightfully mine (FF Championship Belt and the beer money)

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 04:29 PM

NEW VOTE

2 WR FLEX: Lawl, Pappy

3 WR FLEX: Me, Daven, Amanda, Sharick

Still needing to vote: Pats, Lando, Kase, byron, and LT

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 04:30 PM

It's been a while since I have posted up in this joint. Barely been on at all since I got promoted to Zone Supervisor. I see what's going on and I am going to vote for 3 WR flex. Looking forward to getting back what's rightfully mine (FF Championship Belt and the beer money)

welcome back was just about to hit u up on fbook to get ur vote

DavenIII

07-17-2012, 04:32 PM

I highly disagree on that, I think WRs are too stacked to only have a mandatory two receivers.

So that means u just go RB heavy and then u can still get a WR like Reggie Wayne or STevie Johnson as your WR2...

no stratagy, no skill, it kills the game. FORCE people to have to account for 3 WRs and the RB power won't exist

There is no REASON to go RB heavy Matt, WR's and RB's are interchangeable neither gives you significantly more Fantasy points anymore, RB's used to, but not anymore...and your "Wr's are deeper" argument doesn't come into effect unless we have like 20+ teams....people are going to have their starting lineup finished before you have to worry about the depth on WR or RB running out and having to use a **** player.

when you have WR3s out there like Reggie WAyne and STevie Johnson caliber that u could easily put in at WR2, u don't have to worry baout RB.. make sure u get the pick of the litter at RB and let WR go to the back burner. Its what most would do. ESPECIALLY in a year where RB talent is not deep

RB Talent is consistent with WR Talent up until around 40 players deep each, that's 80 picks not counting QB's/TE's/Defenses/Kickers

there aren't enough picks in the draft for the depth of WR's OR RB's to totally run out...you want to pick high on RB's first...it's not a bad idea, but your top WR's are then going to suffer.

the drop from AP to a #35 RB is the same as the drop from Calvin Johnson to a #35 WR nowadays.

the drop from AP to a #60 RB IS worse then the drop from Calvin Johnson to a #60 WR I agree....but seeing as we aren't going to pick that many RB's or WR's as a league I don't see how that matters.

this said if you keep arguing with me Matt I'm gonna flip on my 3WR vote lol.

byron

07-17-2012, 04:33 PM

I'll vote when thisget to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...no more changing your vote "come on man!!!

DavenIII

07-17-2012, 04:35 PM

I'll vote when thisget to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...no more changing your vote come on!

the only one who changed a vote was MH.

we were voting on flex or no flex then Matt introduced a compromise between the two, 3 WR but ALSO a Flex.

I just want larger rosters so we go deeper into the players...so I'll vote for that, but if its not that I want 2RB/2WR+Flex.

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 04:35 PM

I highly disagree on that, I think WRs are too stacked to only have a mandatory two receivers.

So that means u just go RB heavy and then u can still get a WR like Reggie Wayne or STevie Johnson as your WR2...

no stratagy, no skill, it kills the game. FORCE people to have to account for 3 WRs and the RB power won't exist

There is no REASON to go RB heavy Matt, WR's and RB's are interchangeable neither gives you significantly more Fantasy points anymore, RB's used to, but not anymore...and your "Wr's are deeper" argument doesn't come into effect unless we have like 20+ teams....people are going to have their starting lineup finished before you have to worry about the depth on WR or RB running out and having to use a **** player.

when you have WR3s out there like Reggie WAyne and STevie Johnson caliber that u could easily put in at WR2, u don't have to worry baout RB.. make sure u get the pick of the litter at RB and let WR go to the back burner. Its what most would do. ESPECIALLY in a year where RB talent is not deep

RB Talent is consistent with WR Talent up until around 40 players deep each, that's 80 picks not counting QB's/TE's/Defenses/Kickers

there aren't enough picks in the draft for the depth of WR's OR RB's to totally run out...you want to pick high on RB's first...it's not a bad idea, but your top WR's are then going to suffer.

the drop from AP to a #35 RB is the same as the drop from Calvin Johnson to a #35 WR nowadays.

the drop from AP to a #60 RB IS worse then the drop from Calvin Johnson to a #60 WR I agree....but seeing as we aren't going to pick that many RB's or WR's as a league I don't see how that matters.

this said if you keep arguing with me Matt I'm gonna flip on my 3WR vote lol.

you are nuts

i figured u would because u thought it wouldn't go through so u just voted to keep peace but now the sharick vote scares u lol

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 04:36 PM

I'll vote when thisget to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...no more changing your vote come on!

the vote is

Flex with 2 WRs or Flex with 3 WRs...

it will be the final vote on the format...

Pappys flip flopping (much like his baseball allegiances) has come to an end. His official vote was flex.

We need to move on from this and vote on other things

SG88

07-17-2012, 04:36 PM

It's been a while since I have posted up in this joint. Barely been on at all since I got promoted to Zone Supervisor. I see what's going on and I am going to vote for 3 WR flex. Looking forward to getting back what's rightfully mine (FF Championship Belt and the beer money)

welcome back was just about to hit u up on fbook to get ur vote

Good to be back

byron

07-17-2012, 04:41 PM

I'll vote when thisget to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...no more changing your vote come on!

the vote is

Flex with 2 WRs or Flex with 3 WRs...

it will be the final vote on the format...

Pappys flip flopping (much like his baseball allegiances) has come to an end. His official vote was flex.

We need to move on from this and vote on other things
I'm only going to play this votegame one more time !</P>

3wrs flex I think;)</P>

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 04:49 PM

I'll vote when thisget to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...no more changing your vote come on!

the vote is

Flex with 2 WRs or Flex with 3 WRs...

it will be the final vote on the format...

Pappys flip flopping (much like his baseball allegiances) has come to an end. His official vote was flex.

We need to move on from this and vote on other things
I'm only going to this votegame one more time !</p>

3wrs flex I think;)</p>

one more 3 WR flex vote and its in

Morehead State

07-17-2012, 04:50 PM

I'll vote when thisget to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...no more changing your vote come on!

the vote is

Flex with 2 WRs or Flex with 3 WRs...

it will be the final vote on the format...

Pappys flip flopping (much like his baseball allegiances) has come to an end. His official vote was flex.

We need to move on from this and vote on other things
I'm only going to this votegame one more time !</p>

3wrs flex I think;)</p>

one more 3 WR flex vote and its in

OK...3 WR flex is all right. I'll win either way. Its my time. Kallil Bell kept me from the championship last season. Nothing will stop me this time.

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 04:53 PM

I'll vote when thisget to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...no more changing your vote come on!

the vote is

Flex with 2 WRs or Flex with 3 WRs...

it will be the final vote on the format...

Pappys flip flopping (much like his baseball allegiances) has come to an end. His official vote was flex.

We need to move on from this and vote on other things
I'm only going to this votegame one more time !</p>

3wrs flex I think;)</p>

one more 3 WR flex vote and its in

OK...3 WR flex is all right. I'll win either way. Its my time. Kallil Bell kept me from the championship last season. Nothing will stop me this time.

did u just flip flop again

byron

07-17-2012, 04:54 PM

I'll vote when thisget to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...no more changing your vote come on!

the vote is

Flex with 2 WRs or Flex with 3 WRs...

it will be the final vote on the format...

Pappys flip flopping (much like his baseball allegiances) has come to an end. His official vote was flex.

We need to move on from this and vote on other things
I'm only going to this votegame one more time !</P>

3wrs flex I think;)</P>

one more 3 WR flex vote and its in
OK...3 WR flex is all right. I'll win either way. Its my time. Kallil Bell kept me from the championship last season. Nothing will stop me this time.

did u just flip flop again
I think he did!!

Morehead State

07-17-2012, 04:56 PM

I'll vote when thisget to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...no more changing your vote come on!

the vote is

Flex with 2 WRs or Flex with 3 WRs...

it will be the final vote on the format...

Pappys flip flopping (much like his baseball allegiances) has come to an end. His official vote was flex.

We need to move on from this and vote on other things
I'm only going to this votegame one more time !</P>

3wrs flex I think;)</P>

one more 3 WR flex vote and its in
OK...3 WR flex is all right. I'll win either way. Its my time. Kallil Bell kept me from the championship last season. Nothing will stop me this time.

did u just flip flop again
I think he did!!
Just taking control.

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 04:57 PM

I'll vote when thisget to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...no more changing your vote come on!

the vote is

Flex with 2 WRs or Flex with 3 WRs...

it will be the final vote on the format...

Pappys flip flopping (much like his baseball allegiances) has come to an end. His official vote was flex.

We need to move on from this and vote on other things
I'm only going to this votegame one more time !</p>

3wrs flex I think;)</p>

one more 3 WR flex vote and its in
OK...3 WR flex is all right. I'll win either way. Its my time. Kallil Bell kept me from the championship last season. Nothing will stop me this time.

did u just flip flop again
I think he did!!
Just taking control.

jesus god moorehead

byron

07-17-2012, 04:58 PM

I'll vote when thisget to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...no more changing your vote come on!

the vote is

Flex with 2 WRs or Flex with 3 WRs...

it will be the final vote on the format...

Pappys flip flopping (much like his baseball allegiances) has come to an end. His official vote was flex.

We need to move on from this and vote on other things
I'm only going to this votegame one more time !</P>

3wrs flex I think;)</P>

one more 3 WR flex vote and its in
OK...3 WR flex is all right. I'll win either way. Its my time. Kallil Bell kept me from the championship last season. Nothing will stop me this time.

did u just flip flop again
I think he did!! Just taking control. right! of what</P>

by the way thanks</P>

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 05:00 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points:

6 Points:

I am undecided to be honest.

IF the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

But lets get the votes in while we can. 6 votes wins.

SG88

07-17-2012, 05:01 PM

I'll vote when this*get to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...*no more changing your vote come on!**

the vote is

Flex with 2 WRs or Flex with 3 WRs...

it will be the final vote on the format...

Pappys flip flopping (much like his baseball allegiances) has come to an end. His official vote was flex.

We need to move on from this and vote on other things
I'm only going to this vote*game one more time* !*</p>

3wrs flex* I think;)</p>

one more 3 WR flex vote and its in

OK...3 WR flex is all right. I'll win either way. Its my time. Kallil Bell kept me from the championship last season. Nothing will stop me this time.

Keep dreaming buddy

DavenIII

07-17-2012, 05:01 PM

4 pts for the QB TD's

Morehead State

07-17-2012, 05:01 PM

I'll vote when thisget to a strait up down vote your jumping all around...no more changing your vote come on!

the vote is

Flex with 2 WRs or Flex with 3 WRs...

it will be the final vote on the format...

Pappys flip flopping (much like his baseball allegiances) has come to an end. His official vote was flex.

We need to move on from this and vote on other things
I'm only going to this votegame one more time !</p>

3wrs flex I think;)</p>

one more 3 WR flex vote and its in
OK...3 WR flex is all right. I'll win either way. Its my time. Kallil Bell kept me from the championship last season. Nothing will stop me this time.

did u just flip flop again
I think he did!!
Just taking control.

jesus god moorehead

Finally you figured it out.

Morehead State

07-17-2012, 05:02 PM

6 points for a TD

byron

07-17-2012, 05:05 PM

6 points

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 05:08 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda

I am undecided to be honest.

IF
the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u
except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

But lets get the votes in while we can. 6 votes wins.

byron

07-17-2012, 05:17 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda

I am undecided to be honest.

IF the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

But lets get the votes in while we can. 6 votes wins. its easy man points are just results of a drafted player 4/6 he still gets them the thing is to have the guy who gets them obviously... the more the better....lol</P>

plus the Toyota blow out of the week award is in play</P>

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 05:19 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda

I am undecided to be honest.

IF the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

But lets get the votes in while we can. 6 votes wins. its easy man points are just results of a drafted player 4/6 he still gets them the thing is to have the guy who gets them obviously... the more the better....lol

I think I gotta go with 6, just to keep a balance of people waiting on QBs and going for RBs and WRs. More strategic...

4 Points: Daven

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda, Matt

DavenIII

07-17-2012, 05:24 PM

its easy man points are just results of a drafted player 4/6 he still gets them the thing is to have the guy who gets them obviously... the more the better....lol

plus the Toyota blow out of the week award is in play</p>

</p>

4 vs 6 pts drastically changes the "value" of the QB position as a whole.</p>

</p>

QB's get WAY more TD's then Rb's or WR's or TE's ...obviously, so to make having a really good QB not so mandatory 4 pts is the way to go in my opinion, 6 pts makes it so if you don't have a top notch QB you lose...even if you had a good one and lost him to injury it's almost like your season is over (unless you find Cam Newton lol)</p>

I'm not going to complain eitherway I'll just make sure to draft a qb early if it's 6 pts,
</p>

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 05:30 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven, Sharick

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda, Matt, Lando

I am undecided to be honest.

IF
the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u
except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

One more and its 6 TDs

byron

07-17-2012, 05:35 PM

its easy man points are just results of a drafted player 4/6 he still gets them the thing is to have the guy who gets them obviously... the more the better....lol

plus the Toyota blow out of the week award is in play</P>

</P>

4 vs 6 pts drastically changes the "value" of the QB position as a whole.</P>

</P>

QB's get WAY more TD's then Rb's or WR's or TE's ...obviously, so to make having a really good QB not so mandatory 4 pts is the way to go in my opinion, 6 pts makes it so if you don't have a top notch QB you lose...even if you had a good one and lost him to injury it's almost like your season is over (unless you find Cam Newton lol)</P>

I'm not going to complain eitherway I'll just make sure to draft a qb early if it's 6 pts,
</P> yeah which speaks to Matt point aboveit takes some of the heat off wr's, rbs and also my point that we will all adjust our strategyto the rules....."well maybe not me".....lets get these votes behind us, get our draft positions and get to work !

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 05:35 PM

vote on deck: Defense teams vs defensive players

bigblue4417

07-17-2012, 05:57 PM

Good God noooooooo defensive players, that sucks sooooo bad.

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 05:59 PM

Good God noooooooo defensive players, that sucks sooooo bad.

not as bad as 2 WR flex

thank god we dodged that...

byron

07-17-2012, 06:16 PM

Good God noooooooo defensive players, that sucks sooooo bad.

not as bad as 2 WR flex

thank god we dodged that...

don't think I'll be around tomorrow man....I say... team defence

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 06:18 PM

LT chimed in with a vote 6 points..

VOTES THAT ARE IN: 3 WR FLEX &amp; 6 POINTS FOR QBS:

NEXT VOTE IS DEFENSE!

Defensive Individual Players:

Defensive Teams: Lando, Byron

----

pick your poison

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 06:20 PM

anybody know what some of the toher votes were?

byron

07-17-2012, 06:26 PM

anybody know what some of the toher votes were?

say what!?!

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 06:33 PM

anybody know what some of the toher votes were?

say what!?!

like stuff that people wanted to change or add that we should take a vote on?

Like do we want to make this a keeper league or do we want to go PPR?

SG88

07-17-2012, 06:43 PM

TEAM DEFENSE

MattMeyerBud

07-17-2012, 06:58 PM

VOTES THAT ARE IN: 3 WR FLEX &amp; 6 POINTS FOR QBS:

NEXT VOTE IS DEFENSE!

Defensive Individual Players:

Defensive Teams: Lando, Byron, Sharick, AManda, Matt

lttaylor56

07-17-2012, 07:02 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven, Sharick

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda, Matt, Lando

I am undecided to be honest.

IF
the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u
except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

One more and its 6 TDsWow , guess I missed alot in a week and a half. Why are boards shutting down? Are we moving to the new boards finally?

I am casting my defensive vote: Defensive teams not players.

byron

07-17-2012, 07:04 PM

anybody know what some of the toher votes were?

say what!?!

like stuff that people wanted to change or add that we should take a vote on?

Like do we want to make this a keeper league or do we want to go PPR?
here is what I want all trades pending be posted on yahoo with the appealbutton to the comish working "last year it didn't work"

byron

07-17-2012, 07:05 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven, Sharick

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda, Matt, Lando

I am undecided to be honest.

IF the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

One more and its 6 TDsWow , guess I missed alot in a week and a half. Why are boards shutting down? Are we moving to the new boards finally? I am casting my defensive vote: Defensive teams not players. Hey LT new boards this one is shutting down tommorow till I believe monday

Kase-1

07-17-2012, 07:37 PM

Flex - Daven/Morehead/Pats
No Flex - MMB/Blondie/Pizz

who else?
I believe its 6-5 flex, waiting for LT. it was 5- 5 waiting on Lt</p>

mh-byron--matt-amanda-landon-LT no flex</p>

lawl-Daven-Pats-Kase-Mr Green- flex... I believe that is how it went</p>Im only down for flex if its 2WR 2RB and 1 Flex, otherwise the league is gonna get quite diluted

Kase-1

07-17-2012, 07:38 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven, Sharick

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda, Matt, Lando

I am undecided to be honest.

IF
the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u
except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

One more and its 6 TDsWow , guess I missed alot in a week and a half. Why are boards shutting down? Are we moving to the new boards finally?

IF
the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u
except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

One more and its 6 TDs3WR Flex??

U mean like

QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
WR
Flex
TE
K
DST

?????

byron

07-17-2012, 07:51 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven, Sharick

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda, Matt, Lando

I am undecided to be honest.

IF the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

One more and its 6 TDs3WR Flex??

U mean like

QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
WR
Flex
TE
K
DST

?????
I think so kase the flex added added two extra options a week to the game play </P>

the vote going on now is whether to go team defence like alwaysor individual d players</P>

</P>

Kase-1

07-17-2012, 07:55 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven, Sharick

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda, Matt, Lando

I am undecided to be honest.

IF the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

One more and its 6 TDs3WR Flex??

U mean like

QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
WR
Flex
TE
K
DST

?????
I think so kase the flex added added two extra options a week to the game play</p>

</p>WTF, how did I miss out on all of this?!?!?!

When I voted for Flex, I thought it was the normal Flex, like 2RBs, 2WRs and 1 Flex.... Dios Mio

byron

07-17-2012, 07:57 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven, Sharick

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda, Matt, Lando

I am undecided to be honest.

IF the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

One more and its 6 TDs3WR Flex??

U mean like

QB
RB
RB
WR
WR
WR
Flex
TE
K
DST

?????
I think so kase the flex added added two extra options a week to the game play</P>

to bad you missed it all it was a thing of beauty !</P>

</P>

WTF, how did I miss out on all of this?!?!?!

When I voted for Flex, I thought it was the normal Flex, like 2RBs, 2WRs and 1 Flex.... Dios Mio
well thats how it started out then the snowball got rolling...lol</P>

its to bad you missed it allkase it was a thing of beauty</P>

Kase-1

07-17-2012, 08:00 PM

Flex - Daven/Morehead/Pats
No Flex - MMB/Blondie/Pizz

who else?

Kase and I were flexI was down with flex when I thought it was 2RB, 2WR, 1 Flex.

Kase-1

07-17-2012, 08:06 PM

okay PIzz, if u want the 12 spot your in...

BUT, when we league vote, the rule we stuck to was whoever played in the league last year gets to vote. So even though Pizz was in two years ago, he doesn't get voting priviledges. Pats was in the first league, then he even played in the B LEAGUE the next year, and we still didn't let him vote last year. Just remaining consistant.

who else?
Kase and I were flexI was down with flex when I thought it was 2RB, 2WR, 1 Flex.
the way it all happen probably wasn't right the voteoptions should have been clearer..the way it went was your vote won 2rb 2wrs flex then there was another vote to make it 3wr I have to admit it shouldn't gone down that way motion should have been made to send it all back to conference in hindsight anyway this vote should have been one way or the other vote one way or the other plus.....but man that snowball was rolling

Kase-1

07-17-2012, 08:15 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points:

6 Points:

I am undecided to be honest.

IF the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

But lets get the votes in while we can. 6 votes wins.
I vote for 4pts

lttaylor56

07-17-2012, 08:54 PM

Pie is better than cake....hair pie is better than both :)

I simply cannot believe that they are finally moving to the new boards. I will not believe it till I see it.

lttaylor56

07-17-2012, 09:03 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven, Sharick

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda, Matt, Lando

I am undecided to be honest.

IF the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

One more and its 6 TDsWow , guess I missed alot in a week and a half. Why are boards shutting down? Are we moving to the new boards finally? I am casting my defensive vote: Defensive teams not players. Hey LT new boards this one is shutting down tommorow *till I believe mondayThanks B. How are those dogs?

byron

07-17-2012, 09:14 PM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven, Sharick

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda, Matt, Lando

I am undecided to be honest.

IF the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

One more and its 6 TDsWow , guess I missed alot in a week and a half. Why are boards shutting down? Are we moving to the new boards finally? I am casting my defensive vote: Defensive teams not players. Hey LT new boards this one is shutting down tommorow till I believe mondayThanks B. How are those dogs? your welcome man dogs are doing good we have a 5 pup liter right now at 5 weeks old</P>

we have some chocolates on the way first chocolate litter in while for us</P>

see you all on the other side !</P>

JPizzack

07-18-2012, 09:04 AM

YO</P>

i know i dont have a vote, cuz i wasnt in A-league last year....but, whats with this "compromise" vote??

I mean, I thought the vote was standard (3WR/2RB) vs Flex (2RB/2WR/+flex)

now call me crazy....but why would someone have voted standard if they knew that that this 2nd vote would essentially open up the SAME EXACT ****ing option. </P>

the way I see it, the flex spot already devalues RB selections cuz traditionally you want the consistency from RBs...if you have 3 WRs already, who is going to start a 4th WR in the flex spot?? nobody. These votes essentially FORCE extra RBs on your roster no matter what the decision is....</P>

lttaylor56

07-18-2012, 09:13 AM

YO</P>

i know i dont have a vote, cuz i wasnt in A-league last year....but, whats with this "compromise" vote??

I mean, I thought the vote was standard (3WR/2RB) vs Flex (2RB/2WR/+flex)

now call me crazy....but why would someone have voted standard if they knew that that this 2nd vote would essentially open up the SAME EXACT ****ing option. </P>

the way I see it, the flex spot already devalues RB selections cuz traditionally you want the consistency from RBs...if you have 3 WRs already, who is going to start a 4th WR in the flex spot?? nobody. These votes essentially FORCE extra RBs on your roster no matter what the decision is....</P>Pizz makes good sense with this one.

Btw--How are we on the board today? I thought it shuts down today?

lttaylor56

07-18-2012, 09:14 AM

3 WR FLEX IS IN!

NEXT VOTE:

HOW MUCH SHOULD QB TDS BE WORTH?

4 Points: Daven, Sharick

6 Points: Byron, Pappy, Amanda, Matt, Lando

I am undecided to be honest.

IF the boards shut down we will continue this on facebook. since all of u except Pats and LT are on there. I have LTs phone number though.

One more and its 6 TDsWow , guess I missed alot in a week and a half. Why are boards shutting down? Are we moving to the new boards finally? I am casting my defensive vote: Defensive teams not players. Hey LT new boards this one is shutting down tommorow *till I believe mondayThanks B. How are those dogs? your welcome man dogs are doing good we have a 5 pup liter right now at 5 weeks old</P>

we have some chocolates on the way first chocolate litter in while for us</P>

see you all on the other side !</P>That is a solid dog =P

DavenIII

07-18-2012, 09:20 AM

YO</p>

i know i dont have a vote, cuz i wasnt in A-league last year....but, whats with this "compromise" vote??

I mean, I thought the vote was standard (3WR/2RB) vs Flex (2RB/2WR/+flex)

now call me crazy....but why would someone have voted standard if they knew that that this 2nd vote would essentially open up the SAME EXACT ****ing option. </p>

the way I see it, the flex spot already devalues RB selections cuz traditionally you want the consistency from RBs...if you have 3 WRs already, who is going to start a 4th WR in the flex spot?? nobody. These votes essentially FORCE extra RBs on your roster no matter what the decision is....</p>Pizz makes good sense with this one.

Btw--How are we on the board today? I thought it shuts down today?

LT+Kase+Pizz

THIS is what happened.

3WR vs 2WR=Flex was in the middle of being voted on and Matt came up with a "compromise" 3 WR + Flex

I mentioned I would like that...so what we did was we finished the 3WR vs 2WR+Flex vote...

2WR+Flex won.

then after that Matt started ANOTHER separate vote, that vote was to see if we as a league should accept the compromise Matt came up with instead of the regular 2WR+Flex that we had just decided upon.

that vote was pretty unanimous there was enough votes from the people here at the time that it was passed.

JPizzack

07-18-2012, 09:27 AM

YO</P>

i know i dont have a vote, cuz i wasnt in A-league last year....but, whats with this "compromise" vote??

I mean, I thought the vote was standard (3WR/2RB) vs Flex (2RB/2WR/+flex)

now call me crazy....but why would someone have voted standard if they knew that that this 2nd vote would essentially open up the SAME EXACT ****ing option. </P>

the way I see it, the flex spot already devalues RB selections cuz traditionally you want the consistency from RBs...if you have 3 WRs already, who is going to start a 4th WR in the flex spot?? nobody. These votes essentially FORCE extra RBs on your roster no matter what the decision is....</P>

Pizz makes good sense with this one. Btw--How are we on the board today? I thought it shuts down today?

LT+Kase+Pizz

THIS is what happened.

3WR vs 2WR=Flex was in the middle of being voted on and Matt came up with a "compromise" 3 WR + Flex

I mentioned I would like that...so what we did was we finished the 3WR vs 2WR+Flex vote...

2WR+Flex won.

then after that Matt started ANOTHER separate vote, that vote was to see if we as a league should accept the compromise Matt came up with instead of the regular 2WR+Flex that we had just decided upon.

that vote was pretty unanimous there was enough votes from the people here at the time that it was passed.
</P>

wtf.....thats insane how ppl voted for both...
2WR+flex....there's a choice...
3WR + flex.....there's no choice what im doing with that slot....</P>

it's as if youre voting on whether or not you actually want control of your team....if you DONT....3wr + flex is the way to go...lol</P>

MattMeyerBud

07-18-2012, 09:36 AM

YO</P>

i know i dont have a vote, cuz i wasnt in A-league last year....but, whats with this "compromise" vote??

I mean, I thought the vote was standard (3WR/2RB) vs Flex (2RB/2WR/+flex)

now call me crazy....but why would someone have voted standard if they knew that that this 2nd vote would essentially open up the SAME EXACT ****ing option. </P>

the way I see it, the flex spot already devalues RB selections cuz traditionally you want the consistency from RBs...if you have 3 WRs already, who is going to start a 4th WR in the flex spot?? nobody. These votes essentially FORCE extra RBs on your roster no matter what the decision is....</P>

i agree flex devalues RB, but having the 3 WRs kind of take away from that because you HAVE to go 3 WRs. It opens up for more stratagy.

MattMeyerBud

07-18-2012, 09:38 AM

YO</P>

i know i dont have a vote, cuz i wasnt in A-league last year....but, whats with this "compromise" vote??

I mean, I thought the vote was standard (3WR/2RB) vs Flex (2RB/2WR/+flex)

now call me crazy....but why would someone have voted standard if they knew that that this 2nd vote would essentially open up the SAME EXACT ****ing option. </P>

the way I see it, the flex spot already devalues RB selections cuz traditionally you want the consistency from RBs...if you have 3 WRs already, who is going to start a 4th WR in the flex spot?? nobody. These votes essentially FORCE extra RBs on your roster no matter what the decision is....</P>

Pizz makes good sense with this one. Btw--How are we on the board today? I thought it shuts down today?

LT+Kase+Pizz

THIS is what happened.

3WR vs 2WR=Flex was in the middle of being voted on and Matt came up with a "compromise" 3 WR + Flex

I mentioned I would like that...so what we did was we finished the 3WR vs 2WR+Flex vote...

2WR+Flex won.

then after that Matt started ANOTHER separate vote, that vote was to see if we as a league should accept the compromise Matt came up with instead of the regular 2WR+Flex that we had just decided upon.

that vote was pretty unanimous there was enough votes from the people here at the time that it was passed.*
</P>

wtf.....thats insane how ppl voted for both...
2WR+flex....there's a choice...
3WR + flex.....there's no choice what im doing with that slot....</P>

it's as if youre voting on whether or not you actually want control of your team....if you DONT....3wr + flex is the way to go...lol</P>

you can go for the 3 RBs, but then your WRs will take a serious hit. It plays into the stats that Daven was saying yesterday (which he over exaggerated though, but the main point was correct).

You can't disregard WRs with a 3 WR flex like u can with the 2 WR flex, it has to be accounted for.

You can also use TEs as a Flex

MattMeyerBud

07-18-2012, 09:41 AM

and the compromise is that people wanted flex because they say its more strategic, i was against 2 WR flex because WRs and everybody can just go 3 RBs right away because WRs are so deep. Go look at some of the projected WR3s and tell me they wouldn't be just as good as WR 2s...

I would say even WR4s are pretty stacked this year

JPizzack

07-18-2012, 09:44 AM

You can't disregard WRs with a 3 WR flex like u can with the 2 WR flex, it has to be accounted for. You can also use TEs as a Flex</P>

Let me translate what you just said here:

"You have to use a 3rd RB regardless of your original plan."</P>

because Matt, if you have 3 WR already, then there will be no players left to play, unless you happen to be extremely high on Ramses Barden this year or something. Youre really stretching for like 4th string WRs, it just aint happening.
The only saving grace here is that teams are using more RBs....but that just means less production from individual players overall.

They shouldnt call this fantasty football, they should call it "good luck fielding a team" football. lol</P>

MattMeyerBud

07-20-2012, 12:11 PM

You can't disregard WRs with a 3 WR flex like u can with the 2 WR flex, it has to be accounted for. You can also use TEs as a Flex</P>

Let me translate what you just said here:

"You have to use a 3rd RB regardless of your original plan."</P>

because Matt, if you have 3 WR already, then there will be no players left to play, unless you happen to be extremely high on Ramses Barden this year or something. Youre really stretching for like 4th string WRs, it just aint happening.
The only saving grace here is that teams are using more RBs....but that just means less production from individual players overall.

They shouldnt call this fantasty football, they should call it "good luck fielding a team" football. lol</P>

zang

MattMeyerBud

07-20-2012, 12:18 PM

don't quote any past quotes from the old boards or its going to come up weird

MattMeyerBud

07-20-2012, 12:19 PM

don't quote any past quotes from the old boards or its going to come up weird

testing zdgvbghd

Kase-1

07-23-2012, 04:02 PM

Btw--How are we on the board today? I thought it shuts down today?

LT+Kase+Pizz

THIS is what happened.

3WR vs 2WR=Flex was in the middle of being voted on and Matt came up with a "compromise" 3 WR + Flex

I mentioned I would like that...so what we did was we finished the 3WR vs 2WR+Flex vote...

2WR+Flex won.

then after that Matt started ANOTHER separate vote, that vote was to see if we as a league should accept the compromise Matt came up with instead of the regular 2WR+Flex that we had just decided upon.

that vote was pretty unanimous there was enough votes from the people here at the time that it was passed.[/QUOTE]

OK thanks for the clarification

Kase-1

07-23-2012, 04:41 PM

NY Rangers get Rick Nash for Brandon Dubinsky and next to nothing....For all those that dont know about Rick Nash, peep the youtube vid

http://youtu.be/_WqRt1rk8uE

Morehead State

07-23-2012, 04:47 PM

How come I can't use an avatar?

Kase-1

07-23-2012, 05:09 PM

How come I can't use an avatar?

Because you didnt vote for Obama

Morehead State

07-23-2012, 05:13 PM

Because you didnt vote for Obama
Without Gogo I am lost. Plus I promise you that Roanoke didn't vote for Obama and he has his avatar up. Hahahaha!!!

Morehead State

07-23-2012, 05:44 PM

I'm back!!!!!!

byron

07-23-2012, 05:48 PM

testing,testing testing 1,2

derekunion28

07-23-2012, 07:27 PM

figure you guys be in here..... been awhile feeening for some giants.com

MattMeyerBud

07-23-2012, 08:51 PM

lol amen ......

MattMeyerBud

07-24-2012, 12:01 PM

where is everybody?

Anybody going to camp this weekend? Me and blondie just got a room for sat. Looking for some driunking partners for sat night

Kase-1

07-24-2012, 03:44 PM

where is everybody?

Anybody going to camp this weekend? Me and blondie just got a room for sat. Looking for some driunking partners for sat night

Im def gonna try and go sometime this season, since work is slowing down for a month or so I can pretty much take off whenever I want as long as I give a few days notice. Let me know how it is though, the only time I ever went was last year when it was at Giants Stadium, which was great for me since I was coming from LI

lttaylor56

07-24-2012, 04:02 PM

Im def gonna try and go sometime this season, since work is slowing down for a month or so I can pretty much take off whenever I want as long as I give a few days notice. Let me know how it is though, the only time I ever went was last year when it was at Giants Stadium, which was great for me since I was coming from LIMajor busy for us this summer, I want to try and get up to albany at some point. The Giants app had an article on our forum today. They claim board has 100k members and climbing.

Fuhgeddaboutit

07-24-2012, 04:02 PM

MikeisAGiant here.

For those who know me, this is my new username

MattMeyerBud

07-24-2012, 04:29 PM

Im def gonna try and go sometime this season, since work is slowing down for a month or so I can pretty much take off whenever I want as long as I give a few days notice. Let me know how it is though, the only time I ever went was last year when it was at Giants Stadium, which was great for me since I was coming from LI

Its alrite in ALbany, i went a few years ago... I mean honestly i def wouldn't make the trip to just stay for one session. This sat is perfect. Autograph session after practice, go booze, then go to the early practice the next day and be home in plenty of time to still have a night at home

MattMeyerBud

07-24-2012, 04:30 PM

MikeisAGiant here.

For those who know me, this is my new username

lol why???????

Fuhgeddaboutit

07-24-2012, 04:45 PM

lol why???????

Because I'm not really a Giant. It's a fake persona to get everybody to like me.

Now every time I see a stupid thread "FIRE GILBRIDE" or "FIRE THIS ASShat"

I can say

"Fuhgeddaboutit"

MattMeyerBud

07-24-2012, 05:17 PM

you could of did that anyway

MattMeyerBud

07-24-2012, 05:17 PM

Okay guys - draft day. How about the Tuesday night before the opening game vs Dallas?

IS that good for everybody? Figure like an 8:30 start?

I'll make sure blondie gets her *** in gear to make the league tonight

Morehead State

07-24-2012, 05:40 PM

Okay guys - draft day. How about the Tuesday night before the opening game vs Dallas?

IS that good for everybody? Figure like an 8:30 start?

I'll make sure blondie gets her *** in gear to make the league tonight
Should be fine with Morehead.

Fuhgeddaboutit

07-24-2012, 09:16 PM

you could of did that anyway

Naw, this name defines who I am more anyway. If you knew me in real life, you'd know.

MikeIsAGiant sucks

Morehead State

07-25-2012, 08:37 AM

Looks like we lost Dez and Pizzey in the transition. Which reaffirmes our view that they are the same person.

antimorehead

07-25-2012, 10:42 AM

tried to register dezzzr and they gave me this. lmao. wth?!

antimorehead

07-25-2012, 10:50 AM

Im guessing if you used a old email address thats no longer in use you cant get your old name back

...and your obsession with me continues.......if you think i want you associated with me in anyway youre sadly mistaken. lol Nah we were arguing about something like a year ago, you were in complete troll mode, and i made this name but it was never approved until I just tried registering dezzzr. maybe i used an old email address or something....ohh well dont really care about post count. it was all about those green bars!!!!

Fuhgeddaboutit

07-25-2012, 11:02 AM

Wondering we are going to get the green bars/or some sort of reputation thing

Morehead State

07-25-2012, 11:04 AM

if you think i want you associated with me in anyway youre sadly mistaken. lol Nah we were arguing about something like a year ago, you were in complete troll mode, and i made this name but it was never approved until I just tried registering dezzzr. maybe i used an old email address or something....ohh well dont really care about post count. it was all about those green bars!!!!
Keep telling yourself that. Anyway...its all very flattering.

antimorehead

07-25-2012, 11:08 AM

yea when i go to register i type in dezzzr, it recognizes the name and asks me to change the password, once i go to change the password, they ask for the email address. I put a newer address that i would like them to send it to and no email comes. When i put another older email in it gave me antimorehead even though i typed dezzzr.

Morehead State

07-25-2012, 11:11 AM

yea when i go to register i type in dezzzr, it recognizes the name and asks me to change the password, once i go to change the password, they ask for the email address. I put a newer address that i would like them to send it to and no email comes. When i put another older email in it gave me antimorehead even though i typed dezzzr.
I read the words but what you're really saying is ..."I can't get Morehead out of my mind".
Its OK Dezzey poo.

antimorehead

07-25-2012, 11:32 AM

i need a mod...

Morehead State

07-25-2012, 11:35 AM

i need a mod...
In the worst way.

lttaylor56

07-25-2012, 12:18 PM

tried to register dezzzr and they gave me this. lmao. wth?!Classic Dezz! Nice.

Pizzack was here last thurs/Fri on new boards--he made the transition

I really think Grant gets signed at camp this year.

Imgrate

07-25-2012, 12:22 PM

Well, dont know what email lawl was under. Oh well. Gotta think of a name

MattMeyerBud

07-25-2012, 12:23 PM

im a mod, but im useless

MattMeyerBud

07-25-2012, 12:29 PM

i'll be able to fix everybody's accounts tonight. Hit me up with a fbook email and tell me what your new email is and exactly how to spell your login name and i'll take care of it later

antimorehead

07-25-2012, 01:11 PM

thanks matt.

crushthemall

07-25-2012, 01:14 PM

i'll be able to fix everybody's accounts tonight. Hit me up with a fbook email and tell me what your new email is and exactly how to spell your login name and i'll take care of it later

Hey Matt, it's Nick (ny06)
I can't get an email to confirm my old user name password. Any help will be much appreciated. I don't have facebook but I can give you one of my emails addresses if you need it.

Morehead State

07-25-2012, 02:37 PM

Well, dont know what email lawl was under. Oh well. Gotta think of a name
I don't know who you are, but you officially have the greatest screen name on the Giants MB.

Imgrate

07-25-2012, 06:10 PM

I'm lawl.. Don't know what email address I registered with back in the day, so the days of lawl are over

MattMeyerBud

07-25-2012, 06:30 PM

Just bought an iPad so I should be on the boards a lot more

Anybody having issues should email giantsboards@gmail.com but u have to know what email address your account was hooked up to

Fuhgeddaboutit

07-25-2012, 06:34 PM

Just bought an iPad so I should be on the boards a lot more

Anybody having issues should email giantsboards@gmail.com but u have to know what email address your account was hooked up to

Now, get this forum on ForumRunner or Tapatalk and you can have a nice smooth forum transition

lttaylor56

07-25-2012, 06:35 PM

Well, dont know what email lawl was under. Oh well. Gotta think of a name

Haha, that stinks. Sorry Dude

Kase-1

07-25-2012, 06:39 PM

I don't know who you are, but you officially have the greatest screen name on the Giants MB.I gotta agree with Morehead on this one, your new name is most triumphant

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wyld-stallions.jpg

Imgrate

07-25-2012, 07:14 PM

I gotta agree with Morehead on this one, your new name is most triumphant

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/wyld-stallions.jpg

Really? Not sure if I like it.

MattMeyerBud

07-25-2012, 08:34 PM

Really? Not sure if I like it.

I love it too

byron

07-25-2012, 08:47 PM

Really? Not sure if I like it. given the history behind the word its cool most of the regulars would know its history....it will just take awhile to get used to your new name lawl...you could use your real first name if you're are into that.....

lttaylor56

07-25-2012, 09:19 PM

given the history behind the word its cool most of the regulars would know its history....it will just take awhile to get used to your new name lawl...you could use your real first name if you're are into that.....

For me it's all about image recognition. If Lawl put's up that baseball player avatar, I'll know it's him no matter what name he chooses. I like the name as well.

crushthemall

07-25-2012, 09:52 PM

Just bought an iPad so I should be on the boards a lot more

Anybody having issues should email giantsboards@gmail.com but u have to know what email address your account was hooked up to
I emailed them today, and I gave them my email address that was to my old user name. Have any idea how long it takes to get feedback?

MattMeyerBud

07-25-2012, 09:59 PM

For me it's all about image recognition. If Lawl put's up that baseball player avatar, I'll know it's him no matter what name he chooses. I like the name as well.

Good point. He should put a picture up of melky though

MattMeyerBud

07-25-2012, 10:06 PM

Only the admin mod can make these changes so whenever he sees it. But he's breaking his balls to get this will done

lttaylor56

07-25-2012, 10:19 PM

Good point. He should put a picture up of melky though

http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i51/5/5/2/frabz-Thats-hilarious-0575a8.jpg

MattMeyerBud

07-26-2012, 12:02 PM

wow its DEAD in hurrrrr

antimorehead

07-26-2012, 12:07 PM

JPP doing yoga.

Kase-1

07-26-2012, 05:38 PM

What games is everyone going to this season???

I plan on going to the home opener vs the cows, THEE game, and possibly the stiller game if my buddy from Pittsburgh makes the trip, and im sure 1 or 2 more games

Imgrate

07-26-2012, 07:10 PM

Been in Berlin these last two Weeks. Food here is terrible.

DavenIII

07-27-2012, 09:58 AM

I'm here, but I hate these new forums...I hate them more then I've hated anything I think.

byron

07-27-2012, 10:10 AM

I'm here, but I hate these new forums...I hate them more then I've hated anything I think. only thing I don't like is the default display settings should be set to "last post time" in "descending order" so you have the thread order latest post to oldest post....you can change it but when you log off it goes back to the board default...I also miss the the my posts thing we had with the old board....oh well I'll get used to this otherwise all the bells and whistles work

DavenIII

07-27-2012, 10:54 AM

so yeah I just tried to reply to you Byron, when I hit reply to thread it the website timed out, I refreshed it...when I went to reply after refreshing it it decided to log me out, so I logged back in it timed out again after I hit enter on the log in, refreshed it again, then navigated my way back to Thee Thread...now I'm replying with quick reply because I'm literally afriad to hit reply to thread cause I don't want to go through it again.

every time I refresh it seems to take at least 10-15 times longer then the old forums, I also dislike the way it looks, and I've been trying to put up a profile picture and sig and I'm having the same problems....the site is constantly timing out and just slow...and it's not my Internet here at work because everything else is working perfectly fine.

byron

07-27-2012, 11:00 AM

so yeah I just tried to reply to you Byron, when I hit reply to thread it the website timed out, I refreshed it...when I went to reply after refreshing it it decided to log me out, so I logged back in it timed out again after I hit enter on the log in, refreshed it again, then navigated my way back to Thee Thread...now I'm replying with quick reply because I'm literally afriad to hit reply to thread cause I don't want to go through it again.

every time I refresh it seems to take at least 10-15 times longer then the old forums, I also dislike the way it looks, and I've been trying to put up a profile picture and sig and I'm having the same problems....the site is constantly timing out and just slow...and it's not my Internet here at work because everything else is working perfectly fine. yeah I'm noticing some stuff today also Daven...my browser won't back up and its hanging up between pages it alsotakes a while loading when I first come on ....I didn't notice this stuff the first couple days ....hey check your compatibality view try unchecking it in the tools menu

Morehead State

07-27-2012, 01:51 PM

You guys will get used to it. Its not that bad.

byron

07-27-2012, 03:33 PM

the boards are slow....hey matt how about the draft order and such?

Kase-1

07-27-2012, 04:10 PM

so yeah I just tried to reply to you Byron, when I hit reply to thread it the website timed out, I refreshed it...when I went to reply after refreshing it it decided to log me out, so I logged back in it timed out again after I hit enter on the log in, refreshed it again, then navigated my way back to Thee Thread...now I'm replying with quick reply because I'm literally afriad to hit reply to thread cause I don't want to go through it again.

every time I refresh it seems to take at least 10-15 times longer then the old forums, I also dislike the way it looks, and I've been trying to put up a profile picture and sig and I'm having the same problems....the site is constantly timing out and just slow...and it's not my Internet here at work because everything else is working perfectly fine.I feel like im the only one who thinks the boards are much faster. I dont know if its my provider or what but the boards seem significantly faster than before

They're still wierd, LOL

MattMeyerBud

07-27-2012, 11:14 PM

I think they are much faster. League is created

Kase-1

07-29-2012, 06:29 PM

Giants 2011 Yearbook was just on ESPN 2 and I have a RAGING hard-on..... I cant wait for 'America's Game' to come out, who's gonna do the commentary is the question, Personally Id like to hear Eli, Cruz or maybe Jacobs and JPP or Boley

JPizzack

07-29-2012, 08:12 PM

Whats up ****ers.

sorry I been MIA. I was in Rhode Island all last week, and didnt know how to get on the new forums, and it was tricky enough on my tablet as it is...

anyway. New forums are ok I guess. I VERY used to seeing people avatars as i scroll, so without them, it freaks me out. i did my best to keep mine the same for the time being i think.

MattMeyerBud

07-30-2012, 09:33 AM

im actually going there in a few weeks. Never been to RI, how is it? Where did u stay?

Also send me your email address so i can send u the fantasy league invite.

Once everybody is signed into the league we will pick the order

Morehead State

07-30-2012, 09:35 AM

im actually going there in a few weeks. Never been to RI, how is it? Where did u stay?

Also send me your email address so i can send u the fantasy league invite.

Once everybody is signed into the league we will pick the order
Its Sox country so you have a generally better class of people.

Morehead State

07-30-2012, 09:49 AM

BTW...Morehead had his first hole-in one-yesterday. Only after 45 years playing golf.
Best thing is that we play early so there were very few people in the bar when we got there to buy drinks for.

JPizzack

07-30-2012, 11:13 AM

im actually going there in a few weeks. Never been to RI, how is it? Where did u stay?

Also send me your email address so i can send u the fantasy league invite.

Once everybody is signed into the league we will pick the order

Narragansett. My friends and I rented a 6 bedroom house for the week.
Wasn't my idea of a real beach town, so I found it a bit strange, but that's ok...there was a beach, and I wasn't in PK for a week, so thats all that matters.

And MH isn't exactly correct. Alot of MA ssholes there, and after 2 days, I was tired of the accent.

dezzzR

07-30-2012, 11:17 AM

Yooollllo?

dezzzR

07-30-2012, 11:22 AM

I read Jernigan is doing really well. Lining up outside. Beat Webster in man, not easy. I hope hes the next steve smith(panther)

byron

07-30-2012, 11:24 AM

our league currently contains an odd number of teams!

byron

07-30-2012, 11:32 AM

good to have JP and DezzzR back ! that accent is crazy tom sounds like tam

JPizzack

07-30-2012, 11:55 AM

our league currently contains an odd number of teams!

that might be because I had not gotten the email yet? idk...
I just PMd Matt with my email, so it's probably my spot that is sitting empty, MY BAD YO!

JPizzack

07-30-2012, 11:56 AM

I read Jernigan is doing really well. Lining up outside. Beat Webster in man, not easy. I hope hes the next steve smith(panther)

Nice. I was thinking this spring that it was like a 60% chance he might get that role as a "WR3", though it might not matter...the label is dumb. I havent read much since day 1. Hixon look good?

JPizzack

07-30-2012, 11:57 AM

good to have JP and DezzzR back ! that accent is crazy tom sounds like tam

good to be back....kinda! =P

mostly cuz if im posting, it means im working, and im bored with my job these past few months.

Fuhgeddaboutit

07-30-2012, 11:59 AM

good to be back....kinda! =P

mostly cuz if im posting, it means im working, and im bored with my job these past few months.

Same actually lol

MattMeyerBud

07-30-2012, 12:12 PM

that might be because I had not gotten the email yet? idk...
I just PMd Matt with my email, so it's probably my spot that is sitting empty, MY BAD YO!

just sent u the league invite. Only 7 signed up... still will need 4 more after you

MattMeyerBud

07-30-2012, 12:13 PM

Nice. I was thinking this spring that it was like a 60% chance he might get that role as a "WR3", though it might not matter...the label is dumb. I havent read much since day 1. Hixon look good?

early reports were real good

can't wait for the first piece of crow to serve in THEE thread for the season

byron

07-30-2012, 12:13 PM

that might be because I had not gotten the email yet? idk...
I just PMd Matt with my email, so it's probably my spot that is sitting empty, MY BAD YO! ha ha........nah your not the only one there are several I just stirring......

byron

07-30-2012, 12:21 PM

early reports were real good

can't wait for the first piece of crow to serve in THEE thread for the season black crowes?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qD72NCJSkk

Morehead State

07-30-2012, 01:11 PM

BTW...We may be on life support but we're not dead quite yet. Trade Beckett and lets let the kids play. Time to kick in the next phase of our dynasty.

Imgrate

07-30-2012, 03:34 PM

BTW...We may be on life support but we're not dead quite yet. Trade Beckett and lets let the kids play. Time to kick in the next phase of our dynasty. dynasties don't have two bad years in a row.

DavenIII

07-30-2012, 04:09 PM

dynasties don't have two bad years in a row.

exactly, how could a "Dynasty" have 2 bad years Morehead...that doesn't even make sense.

byron

07-30-2012, 04:14 PM

exactly, how could a "Dynasty" have 2 bad years Morehead...that doesn't even make sense.

http://gbaucum.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/rose-colored-glasses1.jpg
they hide the truth

JPizzack

07-30-2012, 04:24 PM

http://gbaucum.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/rose-colored-glasses1.jpg
they hide the truth

lolololololololol

Morehead State

07-30-2012, 04:28 PM

exactly, how could a "Dynasty" have 2 bad years Morehead...that doesn't even make sense.
Happens all the time. As has been previously discussed, real sports "Dynasties" last over many, many years, usually well more than 10 and can even stretch over decades. Fake dynasties (with low standards) are 4 or 5 years with 3 championships. To me thats a good run. The Montreal canadians of the fifties thru the seventies, the Boston Celtics of the 50's and 60's, or the Yankees from the 20's thru the early sixties.
You kids today drive me nuts!!!

JPizzack

07-30-2012, 04:33 PM

Happens all the time. As has been previously discussed, real sports "Dynasties" last over many, many years, usually well more than 10 and can even stretch over decades. Fake dynasties (with low standards) are 4 or 5 years with 3 championships. To me thats a good run. The Montreal canadians of the fifties thru the seventies, the Boston Celtics of the 50's and 60's, or the Yankees from the 20's thru the early sixties.
You kids today drive me nuts!!!

Yea well....>Free agency happened. 40 year dynasties arent really as possible.The Yankees are still the closest thing, sorry bud. Truth hurts.
No way of knowing. The Canadians had their dynasty because of an unfair advantage in that they got the first two Canadian born draft picks every season. The Yankees, Sox and a few other teams have an advantage because they have much more money to spend because of their TV markets and MLB's unwillingness to share revenues enough to create balance. The NFL has it right with a hard cap (now the NBA too) and real revenue sharing so in the NFL its tough. The only exception might be the Pats. If they win 2 more championships in the next 3 years or so, one could argue that they are a dynasty, starting in 2000.

Morehead State

07-30-2012, 04:44 PM

Hosley hurt (may not be serious) TT's injury might be very serious. Lets hope for the best.

Morehead State

07-30-2012, 04:57 PM

Oh yeah...and to Scrappy and Lawl.....during the Yankees dynasty of Babe Ruth thru Mickey Mantle eras, they had seasons of 69-85....83-71....81-71...and 79-75.
The Sox "bad seasons" were 89-73...and 90-72.

JPizzack

07-30-2012, 06:23 PM

Stinks that we didnt get to keep any GreenBars like the old forums had. that was a cool feature. Instead we only get a few ranks? LAME! lol
I dont care about post count, but I liked the feeling of all the green bars filled up lol

Kase-1

07-30-2012, 11:27 PM

No way of knowing. The Canadians had their dynasty because of an unfair advantage in that they got the first two Canadian born draft picks every season. I have never heard of that in all my years of being a hockey fan, what about the Leafs??

byron

07-31-2012, 12:01 AM

Stinks that we didnt get to keep any GreenBars like the old forums had. that was a cool feature. Instead we only get a few ranks? LAME! lol
I dont care about post count, but I liked the feeling of all the green bars filled up lol f-bomb said the new rankings have to do with penis size

DavenIII

07-31-2012, 08:54 AM

Happens all the time. As has been previously discussed, real sports "Dynasties" last over many, many years, usually well more than 10 and can even stretch over decades. Fake dynasties (with low standards) are 4 or 5 years with 3 championships. To me thats a good run. The Montreal canadians of the fifties thru the seventies, the Boston Celtics of the 50's and 60's, or the Yankees from the 20's thru the early sixties.
You kids today drive me nuts!!!

as you said, this has been previously discussed...

I forgot the specifics maybe you could enlighten us on the topic, I was pretty sure that in "thee thread" a dynasty was of course 3 championships in a short period of time?

Also perhaps we could discuss the topic of Champions and "reigning" Champs?

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 09:21 AM

I misspoke yesterday....although the Yankees had one of the most impressive runs in baseball of the past 50 years, the Chicago Bulls were the last true Dynasty in my eyes.
The only thing that could stop the 90-98 Bulls...? Michael Jordan retiring twice.....

MattMeyerBud

07-31-2012, 09:33 AM

f-bomb said the new rankings have to do with penis size

sounds about right...

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 10:04 AM

as you said, this has been previously discussed...

I forgot the specifics maybe you could enlighten us on the topic, I was pretty sure that in "thee thread" a dynasty was of course 3 championships in a short period of time?

Also perhaps we could discuss the topic of Champions and "reigning" Champs?
Thats because in most aspects of life, pop culture has lowered the standards for just about everything. A true sports dynasty must come over an extended period of time. To me, the closest thing recently was the 20 year run of the 49'rs. But in my view it still fell short. 3 championships in 4 years is a great run. The Bulls of the 90's was a great run. But a true dynasty is a far greater accomplishment.
There have really only been a very few true sports dynasties. The Yankees from the 20's into the 60's, the Canadians from the 50's into the 70's, the Celtics of the 50's and 60's and UCLA basketball in the John Wooden era.
If the Sox managed to win 3 more championships over the next 15 years, while maintaining a high level of play, that would qualify in my book. If the Giants managed to do the same, with the 2 championships we already, that would too. But in today's mediocre standards, there will be those who will continue to refer to short runs of success as "dynasties". And they will mostly be Democrats.
Hahaha!!!!!

DavenIII

07-31-2012, 10:16 AM

but what about free agency morehead, dynasty's can't be expected to last like they have in the past, you can't have Mickey Mantle for 17 seasons anymore...it just doesn't work.

same in every sport.

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 10:18 AM

Thats because in most aspects of life, pop culture has lowered the standards for just about everything. A true sports dynasty must come over an extended period of time. To me, the closest thing recently was the 20 year run of the 49'rs. But in my view it still fell short. 3 championships in 4 years is a great run. The Bulls of the 90's was a great run. But a true dynasty is a far greater accomplishment.
There have really only been a very few true sports dynasties. The Yankees from the 20's into the 60's, the Canadians from the 50's into the 70's, the Celtics of the 50's and 60's and UCLA basketball in the John Wooden era.
If the Sox managed to win 3 more championships over the next 15 years, while maintaining a high level of play, that would qualify in my book. If the Giants managed to do the same, with the 2 championships we already, that would too. But in today's mediocre standards, there will be those who will continue to refer to short runs of success as "dynasties". And they will mostly be Democrats.
Hahaha!!!!!

no way...the sox would have to win like 5 more championships to compensate for their irellevance as of late. and thats just not in your deck of cards right now. i would not consider that a dynasty at all.
the yankees of the 30s thru the 60s, sure....i think it was like 16 championships in 30 years...thats pretty diesel. 2 more championships in the 70s....but thats 4 spread over 20 years, so i dont count that.
I do consider the Bulls a dynasty. sorry....unstoppaBULL

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 10:19 AM

but what about free agency morehead, dynasty's can't be expected to last like they have in the past, you can't have Mickey Mantle for 17 seasons anymore...it just doesn't work.

same in every sport.

thats what I said.
I mean, baseball WOULD be the only sport to be able to pull it off because theres no cap...but, its highly unlikely that one team is going to pay someone that long, like you just said.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 10:26 AM

but what about free agency morehead, dynasty's can't be expected to last like they have in the past, you can't have Mickey Mantle for 17 seasons anymore...it just doesn't work.

same in every sport.
Then its much harder to have a real dynasty. Just because we have free agancy doesn't mean the definition of a dynasty changes. One has nothing to do with the other. It could very well be that there will be no more sports dynasties because of what you are suggesting.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 10:30 AM

no way...the sox would have to win like 5 more championships to compensate for their irellevance as of late. and thats just not in your deck of cards right now. i would not consider that a dynasty at all.
the yankees of the 30s thru the 60s, sure....i think it was like 16 championships in 30 years...thats pretty diesel. 2 more championships in the 70s....but thats 4 spread over 20 years, so i dont count that.
I do consider the Bulls a dynasty. sorry....unstoppaBULL
Championships are certainly a major component, but its also a consistent excellence as well. These "down" years for the Sox are still winning seasons. 90-72 and 89-73 are not losing seasons. The Giants have been 8-8 twice recently. It would be tough to call the Giants a true dynasty if they won 2 or 3 more in the next 10 years unless they play better than they have in the regular season. Quite honestly, what we got in 2 championships came in 2, 4 game runs in the playoffs. Both those regular seasons were very up and down.
And you can call the Bullsa dynasty if you want, but they aren't be my standards. No one would argue that those were great teams, but the time was very short.

DavenIII

07-31-2012, 10:38 AM

Then its much harder to have a real dynasty. Just because we have free agancy doesn't mean the definition of a dynasty changes. One has nothing to do with the other. It could very well be that there will be no more sports dynasties because of what you are suggesting.

I disagree here, I think if you are using the term Dynasty in a sports context, if "sports" change then the definition of what a Dynasty is "in that context" also changes.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 11:10 AM

I disagree here, I think if you are using the term Dynasty in a sports context, if "sports" change then the definition of what a Dynasty is "in that context" also changes.
A sports dynasty is what it is. It is what its always been. Because conditions in today's sports leagues have changed, doens't mean that the definition of a sports dynasty changes.
A sports dynasty is still an excellence and dominance over a long period of time. Unless the definitions of "long period of time" or "excellence and dominance" change with the rules of the games, your point is moot.
The reality is that its just a lot harder to have a sports dynasty anymore. You can't move the goal posts closer Daven. Or are you one of those guys who thinks everyone should get a trophy even if they finish last?
"Its harder to have a sports dynasty...so lets change the definition"..... I reject that.

antimorehead

07-31-2012, 11:11 AM

thanks matt, just waiting for dthe old name to be approved. Didnt know it took a few days....
Lawl, if you dont like your new name or want your old name back, email the giants board and tell them your old email address. Should work.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 11:13 AM

thanks matt, just waiting for dthe old name to be approved. Didnt know it took a few days....
Lawl, if you dont like your new name or want your old name back, email the giants board and tell them your old email address. Should work.
"Imgrate" is the best name on the Giants boards. Why would anyone want to change it.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 11:14 AM

So we are still waiting for Lawl, Sharrick, Daven and I don't know who the 12th guy is.

DavenIII

07-31-2012, 11:25 AM

A sports dynasty is what it is. It is what its always been. Because conditions in today's sports leagues have changed, doens't mean that the definition of a sports dynasty changes.
A sports dynasty is still an excellence and dominance over a long period of time. Unless the definitions of "long period of time" or "excellence and dominance" change with the rules of the games, your point is moot.
The reality is that its just a lot harder to have a sports dynasty anymore. You can't move the goal posts closer Daven. Or are you one of those guys who thinks everyone should get a trophy even if they finish last?
"Its harder to have a sports dynasty...so lets change the definition"..... I reject that.

I think the definition of a long period of time in sports HAS changed, that's what I'm getting at.

you say a sports dynasty is what it is and what it's always been...you say just because the condition in today's sports leagues have changed doesn't mean that the definition should/can change.

but that's an opinion, not a statement of fact.

our constitution is constantly changing (not that it's something I like but it is) if that's changing whose to say the definition of dynasty can't, in fact most words mean different things now then they meant years ago.

I think the definition of Dynasty can change to fit today's conditions.

you say you can't move the goal closer, but suppose for some reason the force of Gravity some how got stronger...wouldn't you have to lower a basketball hoop to make it fair? you can move the goal closer if conditions warrant it.

DavenIII

07-31-2012, 11:28 AM

So we are still waiting for Lawl, Sharrick, Daven and I don't know who the 12th guy is.

I thought I already joined the league? perhaps it was MMB's other one that I joined? can someone repost or send the info to me so I can register.

antimorehead

07-31-2012, 11:29 AM

Championships are certainly a major component, but its also a consistent excellence as well. These "down" years for the Sox are still winning seasons. 90-72 and 89-73 are not losing seasons.I guess winning when it matters doesnt factor in to definition of dynasty. The sox have missed the playoffs the last 2 years, soon to be 3. They are certainly not a dynasty, nor are our beloved GMen.
The last dynasty in sports was the Yanks of the late 90's. The Patriots of early 2000's is debatable.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 11:36 AM

I think the definition of a long period of time in sports HAS changed, that's what I'm getting at.

you say a sports dynasty is what it is and what it's always been...you say just because the condition in today's sports leagues have changed doesn't mean that the definition should/can change.

but that's an opinion, not a statement of fact.

our constitution is constantly changing (not that it's something I like but it is) if that's changing whose to say the definition of dynasty can't, in fact most words mean different things now then they meant years ago.

I think the definition of Dynasty can change to fit today's conditions.

you say you can't move the goal closer, but suppose for some reason the force of Gravity some how got stronger...wouldn't you have to lower a basketball hoop to make it fair? you can move the goal closer if conditions warrant it.
To buy your analogy, (moving the basket lower to make it more fair) one would have to suggest that someone is being treated unfairly. Its not "unfair" to anyone that a "dynasty" is what it is. Its not unfair to win a championship and not call that a "one year dynasty".
One would also have to say that since there is free agency and salary caps, that time and space have changed. That the definition of "extended period of time" has somehow changed. That time itself has been bent by some force of physics. Well it hasn't. 10 years is still 3652 days. 20 years is still 20 years, The time contunuum hasn't changed because Kurt Flood sued MLB.
Its like you are saying that we still deserve to have dynasties...its our right...so we need to change the definition.
I'm sure Barack Obama would agree with you though.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 11:40 AM

I guess winning when it matters doesnt factor in to definition of dynasty. The sox have missed the playoffs the last 2 years, soon to be 3. They are certainly not a dynasty, nor are our beloved GMen.
The last dynasty in sports was the Yanks of the late 90's. The Patriots of early 2000's is debatable.
The New York Islanders won 4 straight Stanley Cups from 1980 thru 1983. They were NOT a dynasty. That was a great run of winning championships.
Its amazing to me that two so called conservatives are taking the liberal view that we need to lower standards to accomodate todays mediocrity.
Color me shocked.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 11:47 AM

I guess winning when it matters doesnt factor in to definition of dynasty. The sox have missed the playoffs the last 2 years, soon to be 3. They are certainly not a dynasty, nor are our beloved GMen.
The last dynasty in sports was the Yanks of the late 90's. The Patriots of early 2000's is debatable.
If the Giants won 3 more championships in the next 10 years and played at a high level for that time, I would definately say they would be a sports dynasty. And that dynasty would have started in 2007.

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 11:47 AM

To buy your analogy, (moving the basket lower to make it more fair) one would have to suggest that someone is being treated unfairly. Its not "unfair" to anyone that a "dynasty" is what it is. Its not unfair to win a championship and not call that a "one year dynasty".
One would also have to say that since there is free agency and salary caps, that time and space have changed. That the definition of "extended period of time" has somehow changed. That time itself has been bent by some force of physics. Well it hasn't. 10 years is still 3652 days. 20 years is still 20 years, The time contunuum hasn't changed because Kurt Flood sued MLB.
Its like you are saying that we still deserve to have dynasties...its our right...so we need to change the definition.
I'm sure Barack Obama would agree with you though.

yea, but some things have to change to fit that definition I think.....
the point is, free agency and salary caps defnitely affect competition. 95% of the time, it's a good thing...
I think it's EXTREMELY unlikely that a team can win say 5 times in a row anymore.

I just dont think that it takes a 15, 20, 30 year period to define what a dynasty is.

antimorehead

07-31-2012, 11:47 AM

The New York Islanders won 4 straight Stanley Cups from 1980 thru 1983. They were NOT a dynasty. That was a great run of winning championships.
Its amazing to me that two so called conservatives are taking the liberal view that we need to lower standards to accomodate todays mediocrity.
Color me shocked.Were lowering the standards?? How come you dont consider the Isles a dynasty?? If 4 Championships in a row doesnt qualify a team as a dynasty, what does?

Accommodate* :)

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 11:49 AM

Were lowering the standards?? How come you dont consider the Isles a dynasty?? If 4 Championships in a row doesnt qualify a team as a dynasty, what does?

Accommodate* :)
4 years is simply too short a period of time. They were great teams, but thats not the standard.

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 11:52 AM

The New York Islanders won 4 straight Stanley Cups from 1980 thru 1983. They were NOT a dynasty. That was a great run of winning championships.
Its amazing to me that two so called conservatives are taking the liberal view that we need to lower standards to accomodate todays mediocrity.
Color me shocked.

it's not mediocrity. it's a way to make sure sports, a means of entertainment mind you....can remain a competitive thing.

1) of course YOU would bring "conservatism" and "Liberal" into a ****ing sports debate
2) A red sox fan complaining saying teams are mediocre LOLOLOL. pot calling the kettle black.

antimorehead

07-31-2012, 11:53 AM

If the Giants won 3 more championships in the next 10 years and played at a high level for that time, I would definately say they would be a sports dynasty. And that dynasty would have started in 2007. There has to be a core of players that dominate and they have to win championships consecutive years in a row.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 11:53 AM

yea, but some things have to change to fit that definition I think.....
the point is, free agency and salary caps defnitely affect competition. 95% of the time, it's a good thing...
I think it's EXTREMELY unlikely that a team can win say 5 times in a row anymore.

I just dont think that it takes a 15, 20, 30 year period to define what a dynasty is.
Well it sure as hell aint 5 or 6 years. Thats a friggin joke.

antimorehead

07-31-2012, 11:56 AM

4 years is simply too short a period of time. They were great teams, but thats not the standard.lmao YOU JUST SAID " if the giants win 3 more times over the next 10 years, id consider them a dynasty" !!!

There has to be a core of players that dominate, and you have to win at least 2 consecutive championships.

byron

07-31-2012, 11:56 AM

well here is what wiki says: A sports (http://boards.giants.com/wiki/Sport) dynasty is a team that dominates their sport or league for multiple seasons (http://boards.giants.com/wiki/Season_(sports)) or years. Such dominance is often only realized in retrospect. Some leagues maintain official lists of dynasties, often as part of a hall of fame (http://boards.giants.com/wiki/Hall_of_fame) (e.g., National Hockey League (http://boards.giants.com/wiki/National_Hockey_League)), but in many cases, whether a team has achieved a dynasty is often subjective (http://boards.giants.com/wiki/Subjectivity), and can be a frequent topic of debate among sports fans (http://boards.giants.com/wiki/Fan_(person)). The most widely-accepted sports dynasties are those with multiple championships over a limited period of time, either consecutively with or without interruption (e.g., UCLA Bruins men's basketball (http://boards.giants.com/wiki/UCLA_Bruins_men%27s_basketball) from 1964 to 1975), or non-consecutively (e.g., Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders (http://boards.giants.com/wiki/Oakland_Raiders) of the late 1970s and early 1980s, or the Liverpool (http://boards.giants.com/wiki/Liverpool_F.C.) football team of the 1980s). In a few cases, a dominant team without championships might be recognized as a dynasty (e.g., the Buffalo Bills (http://boards.giants.com/wiki/Buffalo_Bills) of the early 1990s or the Minnesota Vikings (http://boards.giants.com/wiki/Minnesota_Vikings) of the 1970s), though this is likely to be disputed (http://boards.giants.com/wiki/Dynasty_(sports)#Dynasties_in_question).

I'll take winning games /championships over labels any day....I'm not sure there is a clear definition for dynasties that everyone would agree on... makes for a great debate tho

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 11:56 AM

There has to be a core of players that dominate and they have to win championships consecutive years in a row.
Why? The Yankees had a dynasty that started with Babe Ruth and ended with Mickey Mantle. There certainly does NOT have to be a core of players. Usually there isn't. The Habs went from Rocket Richard to Guy LaFluer and Ken Dryden. The UCLA Bruins went from Lew Alcindor and Mike Warren to Bill Walton and Henry Bibby.
Where on earth does this "core of players" standard come from?

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 11:58 AM

There has to be a core of players that dominate and they have to win championships consecutive years in a row.

yea, except earlier he said that our '09 and '10 seasons would wash out the championships because we were mediocre. so, the tune is apparently changing lol

byron

07-31-2012, 11:59 AM

bottom line ...the red sox suck ! ;)

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 12:07 PM

yea, except earlier he said that our '09 and '10 seasons would wash out the championships because we were mediocre. so, the tune is apparently changing lol
So you are saying that the Yankees were not a dynasty from the 20's thru the early sixties. They had several mediocre seasons but the overall dominence over a long period of time is what makes them a dynasty. No team wins every year.
My view is that there have only been a few true sports dynasties. We grasp at straws by trying to redefine greatness in todays media intense world.
But real dynasties are actually very rare and truly exceptional.
You guys can define it any way you want. You can put lipstick on a pig and call it Monique if you want, but its still a pig. I'm not even going to say you're all wrong because my definition is simply different that yours. Yours is a far lower standard than mine. If that gets you thru the night thats fine with me.
In the end its all subjective. Its all opinion. There is no definate definition of a dynasty. But I will continue to honor the old scool view, because I refuse to lower standards to fit in a modern world.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 12:08 PM

bottom line ...the red sox suck ! ;)
Actually we're starting to play better. Friggin Valentine though is killing us.
I can see us going on a run and making it interesting.

antimorehead

07-31-2012, 12:13 PM

Why? The Yankees had a dynasty that started with Babe Ruth and ended with Mickey Mantle. There certainly does NOT have to be a core of players. Usually there isn't. The Habs went from Rocket Richard to Guy LaFluer and Ken Dryden. The UCLA Bruins went from Lew Alcindor and Mike Warren to Bill Walton and Henry Bibby.
Where on earth does this "core of players" standard come from?Id argue that there were really only 2 Yankee dynasties during that time. The early 40's, as good as they were I wouldnt consider them a dynasty.

antimorehead

07-31-2012, 12:15 PM

Actually we're starting to play better. Friggin Valentine though is killing us.
I can see us going on a run and making it interesting.I can see the sox making it interesting but fall short. Do you think Bobbys gone after his first year there?

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 12:15 PM

Id argue that there were really only 2 Yankee dynasties during that time. The early 40's, as good as they were I wouldnt consider them a dynasty.
You have to exclude the war years. All teams were on skeleton crews.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 12:19 PM

I can see you making it interesting but fall short. Do you think Bobbys gone after his first year there?
I was dead set agianst his hiring so I have no idea what ownership was thinking.
I was 100% behind hiring Sandy Alomar Jr. They hired Valentine probably because they thought he would bring dicipline to the clubhouse. All he's done is act like an outsider and screw up the great chemistry this team had. Yes they had some problems with a few guys drinking beer, but the chemistry of the team was fine. The reason they fell apart last season was because Jon Lester forgot how to pitch. And it seems that he still hasn't remembered this year. And getting rid of Yuke is a tough one. The guy is a Red Sox thru and thru.

antimorehead

07-31-2012, 12:23 PM

You have to exclude the war years. All teams were on skeleton crews.You are correct, yanks won in 43.

47 to 61 is probably the best example of a dynasty, especially since it lasted so long. The yanks won every AL pennat from 49 to 58.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 12:27 PM

You are correct, yanks won in 43.

47 to 61 is probably the best example of a dynasty, especially since it lasted so long. The yanks won every AL pennat from 49 to 58.
While the Yanks were winning a WS, Ted Williams was shooting down Krouts over Europe as a fighter pilot.

While the Yanks were winning a WS, Ted Williams was shooting down Krouts over Europe as a fighter pilot.Exactly. He hated Boston so much hed rather fight in a war. ;) Ted was the man. I think I told you Steiners has this awesome painting of him climbing into his ****pit and it had his autograph on it. I thought he fought in the Pacific, he was a marine.

byron

07-31-2012, 12:37 PM

Actually we're starting to play better. Friggin Valentine though is killing us.
I can see us going on a run and making it interesting. Mh I had a nice responce spent a fair amount of time composing it only to get timed out/logged off and lost ....I can't write it all again....good luck your team man...

I having all kinds of trouble with hanging up getting logged out while trying to make a post ....very frustrating to write something only to lose it....and the hanging up just plain pisses me off.....

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 12:40 PM

Exactly. He hated Boston so much hed rather fight in a war. ;) Ted was the man. I think I told you Steiners has this awesome painting of him climbing into his ****pit and it had his autograph on it. I thought he fought in the Pacific, he was a marine.
You are correct. Most of his flying was actually in the Korean war.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 12:41 PM

Mh I had a nice responce spent a fair amount of time composing it only to get timed out/logged off and lost ....I can't write it all again....good luck your team man...

I having all kinds of trouble with hanging up getting logged out while trying to make a post ....very frustrating to write something only to lose it....and the hanging up just plain pisses me off.....
I really haven't had that problem Byron.

byron

07-31-2012, 01:06 PM

I really haven't had that problem Byron. I don't know whats up MH I may have some malware or something going on.....I been searching the web for a new pickup maybe I got hit with something it sucks tho.....

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 01:07 PM

So you are saying that the Yankees were not a dynasty from the 20's thru the early sixties. They had several mediocre seasons but the overall dominence over a long period of time is what makes them a dynasty. No team wins every year.
My view is that there have only been a few true sports dynasties. We grasp at straws by trying to redefine greatness in todays media intense world.
But real dynasties are actually very rare and truly exceptional.
You guys can define it any way you want. You can put lipstick on a pig and call it Monique if you want, but its still a pig. I'm not even going to say you're all wrong because my definition is simply different that yours. Yours is a far lower standard than mine. If that gets you thru the night thats fine with me.
In the end its all subjective. Its all opinion. There is no definate definition of a dynasty. But I will continue to honor the old scool view, because I refuse to lower standards to fit in a modern world.

Why are you twisting MY words, when I just said that it's what YOU SAID yourself a few pages ago!!??!

lttaylor56

07-31-2012, 01:08 PM

What's up guys?

Dezz still does not have access to his old account?

MH, the new avatar is not doing it for me. It looks like a dude with a wig on.

lttaylor56

07-31-2012, 01:09 PM

Hey Justin!! How's the dog doing down south?

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 01:11 PM

[QUOTE=Morehead State;440171] The Giants have been 8-8 twice recently. It would be tough to call the Giants a true dynasty if they won 2 or 3 more in the next 10 years unless they play better than they have in the regular season. Quite honestly, what we got in 2 championships came in 2, 4 game runs in the playoffs. Both those regular seasons were very up and down.
QUOTE]

It's what you said right here

lttaylor56

07-31-2012, 01:15 PM

Any results on T2's knee mri yet? I'm thinking that he may be done before this season even get's going.

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 01:16 PM

Hey Justin!! How's the dog doing down south?

which dog? mine? Molly was put down the morning before I left for NC.

I was absolutely livid with my father and stepmom for not only making that decision without me, but for not waiting 8 ****ing hours for me to come down and at least spend her last day with me. Like, literally my flight left at 530pm, and they told me at 930am. I didnt talk to my father for almost the entire week i was there unless i absolutely needed to.

It was heartbreaking....it really was.

To make things worse, my step mom got another bull mastiff less than a month later. couple weeks ago.....you can really tell they care, right?

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 01:17 PM

Any results on T2's knee mri yet? I'm thinking that he may be done before this season even get's going.

worst Giants signing of all time. We were waiting for Reese to screw up at some point. this was the one. TT was overrated already, and is even more of a injury liability than Bradshaw. ****ing awful.

byron

07-31-2012, 01:26 PM

which dog? mine? Molly was put down the morning before I left for NC.

I was absolutely livid with my father and stepmom for not only making that decision without me, but for not waiting 8 ****ing hours for me to come down and at least spend her last day with me. Like, literally my flight left at 530pm, and they told me at 930am. I didnt talk to my father for almost the entire week i was there unless i absolutely needed to.

Thanks. It's ok though...I forgot to write that she did in fact have bone cancer....so I honeslty WOULD HAVE made the same decision obviously...but I mean....I just felt really cheated that I wasn't there. Just another way my father shows his selfishness.

antimorehead

07-31-2012, 02:21 PM

Mh I had a nice responce spent a fair amount of time composing it only to get timed out/logged off and lost ....I can't write it all again....good luck your team man...

I having all kinds of trouble with hanging up getting logged out while trying to make a post ....very frustrating to write something only to lose it....and the hanging up just plain pisses me off.....Yea, same thing happening with me. Ill leave thee thread and go into a tagf and im logged out.
How long did you guys have to wait before being approved. This name was approved right away some reason. **** is complicated.

antimorehead

07-31-2012, 02:29 PM

worst Giants signing of all time. We were waiting for Reese to screw up at some point. this was the one. TT was overrated already, and is even more of a injury liability than Bradshaw. ****ing awful.As overrated as i think tt was, this is still going to hurt. Rolle will be back at nickle. We live and die by Elis arm and our fleet of WRs.

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 02:45 PM

As overrated as i think tt was, this is still going to hurt. Rolle will be back at nickle. We live and die by Elis arm and our fleet of WRs.

yea it's bull****, right? I dont like Thomas....his inability to play causes that dislike....

ny06

07-31-2012, 02:55 PM

How is it the worst signing by Reese? There was no way of knowing that Thomas would have gotten injured again, even though we all had our doubts. The contract is to the Giants advantage. Now that Thomas season and career is in jeopardy, the Giants only have to pay about 2 million this season, and cut him.
There was no way the Giants were going to match the Jaguars offer to Ross ( three-year, $9.75 million contract) This is why we drafted Prince last year, and Hosely this season. It's time for guys to step up and be ready to play some significant time this season.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 02:57 PM

Yea, same thing happening with me. Ill leave thee thread and go into a tagf and im logged out.
How long did you guys have to wait before being approved. This name was approved right away some reason. **** is complicated.
Mine was instantanious but probably because I had the same email address. I understand that your old name was under a close email account. That probably put a monkey wrench into it.

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 03:03 PM

As overrated as i think tt was, this is still going to hurt. Rolle will be back at nickle. We live and die by Elis arm and our fleet of WRs.
I doubt Rolle will be at corner. We were litterally out of corners last season when Rolle was pressed into nickel duty. While the loss of TT is tough for him, our defense won't miss a beat. We rely on our pass rush and playmaking ability in the secondary.
And our team does not rely on the arm of Eli. Lots of good players on this team. Your low opinion of the New York Giants, especially after winning a SB is mind boggling.

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 03:09 PM

How is it the worst signing by Reese? There was no way of knowing that Thomas would have gotten injured again, even though we all had our doubts. The contract is to the Giants advantage. Now that Thomas season and career is in jeopardy, the Giants only have to pay about 2 million this season, and cut him.
There was no way the Giants were going to match the Jaguars offer to Ross ( three-year, $9.75 million contract) This is why we drafted Prince last year, and Hosely this season. It's time for guys to step up and be ready to play some significant time this season.

lol i read that last part as "its time for you guys to step up and be ready to play...etc..."....and im like....whoa, intense....but i cant play CB. I draw the line at LB. lol

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 03:11 PM

I doubt Rolle will be at corner. We were litterally out of corners last season when Rolle was pressed into nickel duty. While the loss of TT is tough for him, our defense won't miss a beat. We rely on our pass rush and playmaking ability in the secondary.
And our team does not rely on the arm of Eli. Lots of good players on this team. Your low opinion of the New York Giants, especially after winning a SB is mind boggling.

they should just bench the corners for the rest of camp.....or just let them do stretches....i rather them get injured in the regular season that before preseason

btw....TT, **** you, still....k thx

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 03:15 PM

they should just bench the corners for the rest of camp.....or just let them do stretches....i rather them get injured in the regular season that before preseason

btw....TT, **** you, still....k thx
I meant to say that I doubt Rolle will be at nickel.

byron

07-31-2012, 03:20 PM

Yea, same thing happening with me. Ill leave thee thread and go into a tagf and im logged out.
How long did you guys have to wait before being approved. This name was approved right away some reason. **** is complicated. I thought you on the other day with your dezzzR name I welcomed you back.....yeah when I do log in it takes a long time logging me in also...I've written a number of replys only to find I'm not logged in and lose everything...it sucks cause I'm not that good of a writer its work for me... and I hate doing anything twice...oh well

byron

07-31-2012, 03:28 PM

I read Jernigan is doing really well. Lining up outside. Beat Webster in man, not easy. I hope hes the next steve smith(panther) this was a post from yesterday Dezz what gives!

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 03:33 PM

this was a post from yesterday Dezz what gives!

hahaha yea i was confused when I saw him complaining about that too...im like...wait didnt he post yesterday, and then someone say "good to see dezzz is on now!" lol

byron

07-31-2012, 03:40 PM

hahaha yea i was confused when I saw him complaining about that too...im like...wait didnt he post yesterday, and then someone say "good to see dezzz is on now!" lol I guess his other personalty is kicking in today!

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 03:46 PM

I guess his other personalty is kicking in today!
Dezz?........Personalty?

I think not.

JPizzack

07-31-2012, 04:01 PM

Dezz?........Personalty?

I think not.

ZING!!!

btw, has anyone noticed that they dont do block quoting anymore....THANK GOD!!!!!! lol

antimorehead

07-31-2012, 04:23 PM

this was a post from yesterday Dezz what gives!Ii know, what the hell?? when i went on yesterday it said you dont have posting privileges or something of that nature and that my name might be waiting to be approved

antimorehead

07-31-2012, 04:25 PM

ZING!!!

btw, has anyone noticed that they dont do block quoting anymore....THANK GOD!!!!!! lolI miss that a lot actually. shows who said what without flipping through 100 pages. It could get crazy at times though.

lttaylor56

07-31-2012, 04:46 PM

which dog? mine? Molly was put down the morning before I left for NC.

I was absolutely livid with my father and stepmom for not only making that decision without me, but for not waiting 8 ****ing hours for me to come down and at least spend her last day with me. Like, literally my flight left at 530pm, and they told me at 930am. I didnt talk to my father for almost the entire week i was there unless i absolutely needed to.

It was heartbreaking....it really was.

To make things worse, my step mom got another bull mastiff less than a month later. couple weeks ago.....you can really tell they care, right?JP, I'm very sorry to hear about Molly and the timing with her being put down. Oh man, I really hate to hear that.

bigblue4417

07-31-2012, 10:03 PM

I got logged in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MattMeyerBud

07-31-2012, 10:24 PM

U pick the order yet ;)

Morehead State

07-31-2012, 10:32 PM

I got logged in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Love ya Lando but you gotta lose that beard thingy your sporting. Just trying to help.

bigblue4417

08-01-2012, 12:00 AM

Not everyone is as facially hair gifted as you sir.

bigblue4417

08-01-2012, 12:01 AM

U pick the order yet ;)
Who knows if Pats will even get back on with the switch. I hope he does but once Lawl registers you should do the order. I'm getting too anxious. lol

JPizzack

08-01-2012, 08:57 AM

Not everyone is as facially hair gifted as you sir.

Just tell him that you also want to be able to give him the creepy man hug when you see him soon! lol

Morehead State

08-01-2012, 09:49 AM

Just tell him that you also want to be able to give him the creepy man hug when you see him soon! lol
No hug from Lando could ever be creepy.

antimorehead

08-01-2012, 10:22 AM

Love ya Lando but you gotta lose that beard thingy your sporting. Just trying to help.trying to tell others how to grow their facial hair. How elite of you. Bloomhead State.