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Have you played any Uncharted games before? I liked Uncharted 4 a lot, but it kinda requires you to be invested in the characters. I know that some people found it a bit so-so. *stares at a certain Finnish guy* If you want a more concentrated experience that gives you the best of Uncharted, you may want to skip directly to Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, and if you enjoy that one you can always return to the previous ones.

Also, I can very much recommend the PS4 remake of Shadow of the Colossus, a beautiful, beautiful game.

Yeah one Uncharted game was enough for me. Played Uncharted 3, liked it. Played 2 and 4 and was very bored. They're fine games, but, yeah, one of these things was clearly enough for me. Felt the same way about Gravity Rush. Loved the first, got bored of the second. Also got bored of Horizon Zero Dawn, didn't really care for the monster hunter aspect of it.

It's a shame with Gravity Rush, because in some ways the second game very much builds and improves on the first one - but I just couldn't get over its wonky balancing and the difficulty spikes. A game that amps up the charme, which is definitely true for Gravity Rush, can be difficult, but if it's frustrating and unfair the charm turns sour.

Yup. Remastered package called The Nathan Drake Collection. Word of warning: Uncharted 1 isn't particularly brilliant in this day and age; while it's a generally decent game all around, it's essentially a title caught in the transition between The Studio that Brought You Jak, and The Studio that Brought You The Last of Us. If you're of limited time/patience, you're better off starting with UC2.

I'd second Sulphur's opinion. Replaying the first Uncharted when the remastered versions came out was okay because I could be all nostalgic about playing the game on the PS3, but if you don't bring nostalgia to the table it may well turn you against the series. It's pretty bad in terms of the ebb and flow of the action; there are bits you're likely to have to replay so often, you'll want to chuck Nathan Drake into a woodchipper. In terms of gameplay, it's clearly the template for the later games, but in terms of balancing and polish it doesn't really hold up, whereas Uncharted 2 does due to being much more varied and knowing when to punctuate the action with something more quiet and internalised. As a whole, I might even consider Uncharted 2 my favourite instalment, at least prior to Lost Legacy.

Anyway, I haven't played the following two games, but if you're into the genre, they're apparently very good: Until Dawn, a horror game (somewhat along the lines of Telltale's adventures) with major production values, and Persona 5, if you're into JRPGs.

Regardless of platform, Nioh is proper great if you're a fan of deep yet accessible gameplay. Its combat mechanics are precise, layered, and immensely satisfying when you master them. Just a simple thing like stamina management (called Ki in Nioh) can be switched up and taken advantage of depending on your mastery of Ki pulsing and noting the way each of the three combat stances change up your Ki burn and replenishment.

While it borrows elements from Dark Souls, this is from Team Ninja so it's also a good deal faster (which may or may not be a turn off), does its own spin on these things like the Ki bar management, has a lot (a lot) of inventory+loot drop management and crafting options, throws a story around at irregular intervals that is completely batshit yet easily ignored, has nowhere near as involved or interesting level design as Dark Souls, and looks like a late PS3 game at best. In the end, the thing that makes it or breaks it is the gameplay, so if having the most exquisitely crafted RPG/hack 'n slash combat of the past decade sounds good to you, then you should get it wherever.

I'd second this as I just bought a Pro myself last week and Second Son is the first game I'm playing on it. Obviously not that far into it yet but I'm really enjoying it so far. If you've ever played the previous Infamous games, you should feel right at home with this one.

Subjeff, you might also be interested in the following summary of PS4 recommendations from late last year:

- Nier: Automata - PC version had issues according to Eurogamer - may just be engine problems.
- Uncharted 4 - probably enjoyable if you haven't played much Uncharted
- Nioh - Digital Foundry comments on dynamic resolution, action vs movie mode
- Uncharted Nathan Drake edition - 2nd game possibly the best one
- Uncharted Lost Legacy
- God of War
- Assassins Creed: Syndicate
- Ratchet and Clank
- Last Guardian - got a good review by The Guardian - doesn't seem to be for everyone however.
- Shadow of the Colossus remake
- Until Dawn
- Second Son
- Ark Survival for split-screen mode
- Crash Bandicoot Trilogy Remake - may be more of a nostalgia trip

While I've had a PS4 since 2014, I upgraded to the Pro version recently. For some reason The Last of Us (Remastered) didn't make the list but it should have (probably Iceman had played it already, along with Bloodborne). Apart from being one the greatest story-driven action games ever made, it looks amazing and even more so on the Pro.

Automata? YMMV. I thought it was greater than the sum of its parts, but it needs you to invest in its eccentricities (you only get to see the full story if you push on and replay the different 'routes', the naming of which is itself a misnomer; replaying after the first run shows you another perspective, and replaying after that actually continues the story). If you can push through the initial blandness of its quest design to the good bits, it's a very interesting journey.

So GoW looks amaaaazing. First PS4 game though, and I've not played anything that looks this good before I don't think. I'm still finishing up GoW3 on PS3 so I'll do that before really giving GoW a go, but God daaamn that combat mechanic is tight in PS4 GoW! I started it on the hardest difficulty and the first fight was brutal. No tips! Not really. Still not sure I understand how dodging v rolling works but I can see that this is far, far more nuanced stuff and I'm impressed with the depth of it (on reading some intros to combat).

Also got Spiderman which is far... lighter. Doesn't look quite as good, but it's a very different game. RDR2 isn't installed yet. I'll get around to it but it'll be a while.