Looks like they don't make them for real helmets, so I guess we'll be sticking with Bourkes. I'm sure the first time something knocks your helmet forward and they smash down on the bridge of your nose, you'll be cursing them.

It would be nice but my department still would make me wear goggles. Our safety commitee said that shields were not allowed, just goggles now. So, I have to take a darn shield off my helmet and put on goggles... even though my shield is NFPA approved. I wonder if they would allow this thing though

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If your dept makes you wear the shield down when you have your SCBA on, then they may not know that this hampers your vision and according to the NFPA gods (or demons) is not necessary. The Lens in your face mask counts as proper eye protection.

I agree with whoever made the comment on not working for real helmets. I wear a leather myself.
I do see this as a great alternative to the POS 4" Faceshield. It looks like it has some type of nose piece. I can't remember ever having my old 1010 tip forward on me(at least when the chin strap was on and the ratchet tightened down.
To me it looks like someone took the closeness to the eyes of the bourkes and combined that with the wrap around protection of the faceshield.....
this is a Try before you buy product for sure.

I've said it many times and I'll say it again. (of course this is only my opinion but I didn't just fall off the turnip truck) The only type of eye protection worth a damn aside from your SCBA mask is a good pair of clean, well maintained safety glasses stored in a hard case in your pocket when not in use. Anything on your helmet moves when you helmet does and after a fire or two you can't see through them anyway so they are useless.

No thanks. I'll stick with my tried and true Bourkes.
FWIW, is it just me or does it seem like MSA has teetotally screwed up the venerable Cairns line of helmets? Even the new leather helmets look weird.