bluetuba

Ryuzaki wrote:I'm glad you don't let pissy people keep you from continuing to submit your art. I've noticed that it seems that when someone does really well on here, people start turning on them like they did with BassAnimation with her Mirai shirt (which I'm wearing right now and love). I think it's a shame.

Oh no you don't, Ramy was "hated on" before he started printing here every other week, and has been (justifiably)for a long time and on other sites before this. He's been rehashing the same nonsense here over and over for years.

As for Bassanimation, aside from a little drama when she first arrived I think it's safe to say she's pretty universally praised and respected around here now. She's earned that over time. 1 guy had a cow in her Mirai entry about the Japan thing being a gimmick and wouldn't let it go, that's not the entire community turning on her for being successful! Hell Mirai didn't even come close to winning the derby, it was selected by the sponsor for being so awesome.

The "UR JUST JEALOUS OF RAMYB" defense is utter bunk, most of the successful regular artists around here are well liked because they aren't pandering hacks.

"You can't just dress a Minion like Spock, and add a caption that says "Logical Me". There's a prison for people like that. Below my house."

arlienemann

As a band teacher and brass player, this shirt makes me very happy. I have tried drawing this exact figure on my board for my music students no less than 4 times this year alone. I really hope it pulls through the fog!

yankeebird

deltax20a wrote:The most delicious part of human psychology is understanding that when it comes down to it, the majority of his hater fan club are simply jealous they didn't think of it first.

I've never understood this argument. I'm no fan of ramyb, mostly because I think he's a very talented but lazy designer. He can be a great designer, but week after week rather than challenge himself and truly show the woot audience with what he can do, he dashes off something quick with bunnies or turtles. Sure, the end result is the same, he wins a bunch of money, and that's probably why he doesn't put in any more effort than necessary. However, I admire and respect artists who like to challenge themselves and grow and impress their audience. I don't see that effort from ramyb.

I don't see how that makes me a hater, or even if it does, I don't see how it means I'm jealous. When I draw, you can't tell a tree from a dog. So there's no "I wish I'd thought of it first" coming from me, because I don't have the creativity nor the skills. I am here because I like to buy shirts, not design them, so no jealousy on my part.

singleladad

ccazabon

yankeebird wrote:I've never understood this argument. I'm no fan of ramyb, mostly because I think he's a very talented but lazy designer. He can be a great designer, but week after week rather than challenge himself and truly show the woot audience with what he can do, he dashes off something quick with bunnies or turtles. Sure, the end result is the same, he wins a bunch of money, and that's probably why he doesn't put in any more effort than necessary. However, I admire and respect artists who like to challenge themselves and grow and impress their audience. I don't see that effort from ramyb.

I don't see how that makes me a hater, or even if it does, I don't see how it means I'm jealous. When I draw, you can't tell a tree from a dog. So there's no "I wish I'd thought of it first" coming from me, because I don't have the creativity nor the skills. I am here because I like to buy shirts, not design them, so no jealousy on my part.

I believe you are right to an extent.
However, I think the real reason most people have a problem is: People are here to vote on shirt's they will (supposedly) buy if it wins and that a large majority of voters have dissimilar opinions on shirts than a large 'vocal' number of others. Thus the shirts they like might not get printed.

This all comes down to individual personal opinion and it will never be more than that. People have been getting mad over difference in opinions since...well forever.

Wetbo

sasham62

tmorel wrote:I wonder what the TopGear presenters would have to say about this!!! Anyway, it's a shame the TShirts don't have images on the back, you could have the same car after it's been in a massive wreck and the bystanders are all eating freshly made frenchfries...

Depends on whether it crashed into a (vegetable) oil tanker or a sour cream tanker.
Mmmmmmmmmmmm...

doghcat

JEEZ.
I like it, personally.
It's an obvious TMNT reference (which made more sense with the skull and crossbones radiactive liquid, but still) and though it's kinda dark, it's still funny.
It's some kid who wanted to test if ordinary turtles would mutate if he poured stuff on them.
Settle down, people.

zwilkens

I would totally love this, but it reminds me of Pink Floyd. I don't see it as a ripoff, I think it is its own entity, but the fact that it *reminds* me of the Pink Floyd shirt will keep my from buying it. I hate them.

madfrisbee

mrwednesday wrote:I'm not I'm following exactly what you've been convinced of but as someone who is a scientist the initial rejection was correct. Part of the requirements for funding agencies and departments is outreach into the community and as a result I have spent a fair amount of time coordinating and presenting for science clubs in our local area.

Any sort of mutation project is well beyond the reach of middle schoolers and junior high even into high school. What isn't beyond middle schoolers is that if you pour bleach on animals they die. The shirt is a poorly shoehorned attempt at a TMNT reference which has absolutely no basis in the theme.

With all of the controversy regarding ethical use of animals, there is no possibility even at the middle school level that kids are taking animals in the attempt to "do stuff to them." It's not responsible and it's not something that should be profited off of as a joke.

It's irresponsible and unethical and the fact that it would be allowed is personally insulting especially given the great lengths that everyone in science from the top down has to go through to ensure that animals are used in responsible ways.

Dude, do you KNOW any middle-schoolers? I work with a bunch of them in an after-school program, and let me tell ya, this is definitely something several of them would try. If their parents/teachers stopped them doing it for the science fair, they would just try it on their own - go out into the woods, find eight turtles, and get to work.

Your principles and scientific ethics are great, but the average middle-school student doesn't give a hill o' beans.

foxbite

Speaking as an educator, between neglectful/indifferent parents and teachers, experiments like this can and have been submitted. What I can't believe is that people are debating the legitimacy of this as a project as a basis for the legitimacy of this shirt as a submission.

onyx70

crapface wrote:Holy crap, I want this so bad. I'm an engineer and I perform vibration-based machinery diagnostics for a living. The level of WANT is so high, I'm taking back all votes on other shirts in this derby.

Q- what do engineers use for birth control?

A- their personalities.

sorry.. I had to. LOL

(edit: I love this shirt)

It's official.. as of this recent woot-off.. my mailman is going to hate my guts.

jaeger1957

be10der2me wrote:I disagree with your pov.
Sometimes you see a TRUE artist falling off their way into the bRAMYBles and you feel compelled to reach out and save them.
I love MR's art but lately I have seen a desperation that resorts to pandering. This concerns me.
Stay true to yourself MR, always.

This is the first time I've been to this site, this is the first instance I've seen of this person's work, and I found it to be quite clever, a cute, unconventional take on a (very) familiar subject.

Perhaps for someone who does shirt designs daily and scrutinizes them at great length, your comments might have some validity, but in the end, the question is does it appeal to people? And my answer is yes, as it appears to be for several others as well.

Your comments are not much different than a "music purist" disdaining someone's music merely on the grounds that it is popular. You're entitled to your opinion, certainly, but you don't need to flog it to death.

Bigboy1868

How did this not win! I'm a science teacher and I know this is exactly what they are thinking during my talks of chemical reactions!!! Shame on you wooters for not allowing me to wear this shirt to class!!!!

billyboy0321

jzlosman wrote:It started as a comic in the mid-80s. Followed by 4 TV series, 4 films, and are you ready for this...21 video games. How can you try to make a case that TMNT is not a video game. The origin media is irrelevant.

BECAUSE Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was first and foremost a GRAPHIC NOVEL - for those not familiar with them, they were gory/sexualized/gritty comics. I'm pretty sure Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird would be adamant about the fct that their creation started as a GRAPHIC NOVEL and not a worthless compilation of forgettable video games. It doesn't matter what it is NOW, as it's origis are what it was, is and will be.

Plus you all should find something more important to do with your time, who cares if he makes a shirt that offends, just don't vote or buy... sheesh.

For the record, I'd probably have bought one, as I think the idea is pretty neat.

raven0445

zwilkens wrote:I would totally love this, but it reminds me of Pink Floyd. I don't see it as a ripoff, I think it is its own entity, but the fact that it *reminds* me of the Pink Floyd shirt will keep my from buying it. I hate them.

MachineAmbition

Not really, but I would stop large-scale egg production entirely. If the people who are in the business of roosters and chickens can't figure out how to behave responsibly, then maybe they shouldn't be in business.

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