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Comment by foolotto

A warrior wielding a pair of these will truly have the "Voice of the DPS".

Comment by maeltum

This was one of the first Melee weapons to break 1,000 weapon DPS when it first came out.

Comment by sorsa

I have mixed feelings about this weapon.. on one hand I would greatly enjoy having a pet tentacle slap my enemies in the face, but on the other hand I'm concerned about how much a stationary tentacle will amount to on mobility-heavy fights or fights with alot of target switching.

I can't help but wonder if the tentacle pet can compare to the dps gain of a weapon like Kiril, Fury of Beasts, which has a proc that is fantastic in all situations. In addition the Tentacle will likely only provide a single target dps gain, while the stacking Agility buff from the staff provides a large single target -and- AoE dps boost.

If it was a tentacle with 2 tiny tentacle legs running around spamming Cleaves, now that would be sweet..

Comment by Afrozombie

This is the third item in a collection of tentacle spawning articles that aid the player character. Assuming that all three can be used at the same time (while the weapon's tentacle has proced) the player can have 3 allied tentacles aiding them. Unless they all share a internal cool down or the two trinkets cannot be used at the same time, then prepare for some weird tentacle fights.

Comment by MaximCC

As far as I know, the Yogg-Saron tentacle & C'Thun tentacle trinkets still share a 'trigger' timer, meaning you can't pop one within 20/30 seconds of each other.

On Topic with this weapon, the lack of secondary stats and 3.6 speed make it questionable in regards to true DPS upgrade vs. a heroic Rag Hammer for at least one 2-handed DPS Spec (Ret Paladins). Obviously, a final call on this will all depend on the nature and scaling of the tentacle.

Comment by g33ky

Hmm, will a fury warr dual wielding this be able to spawn not one, but two tentacles(!)?

And if there is no shared CD, that makes me wonder if you can get more than 1 tentacle from a single weap aswell? If so, arms warr = Tentacle storm!

Comment by Sameri

*These opinions are from a fury warriors point of view*This weapon drops off the LFR, Normal, and Heroic versions of "Madness of Deathwing."

The following details reflect the Normal version (403 ilevel):

Your special weapons swings have a 2% chance to spawn a stationary tentacle on the ground.

The tentacle attacks with a mind flay, channeling for 3 seconds. The mind flay ticks every 1.5 seconds for a static value of 11155 damage.

Attacks on average 8 ticks per tentacle, causing 89,240 damage or 7,214 dps.

Pros:Looks cool, goes great with my Vanquished Tentacle of Yog-Saron. No Internal Cooldown (ICD).The Mind Flay spell slows. Could have some practical use in BGs.Gives you extra burst, whether you need it or not.The DPS gained from a tentacle is worth the secondary stats you lose.

Cons:With no ICD, you can occasionally spawn two (or more) tentacles at the same time. Although this looks cool, only one tentacle can attack one target at a time. While the mind flay effect still occurs, the dots don't tick from the other 2 tentacles. While testing on dummys, I had 2 tentacles spawn 3 seconds apart, and recount only recorded 11 stacks for a total of 122,705 damage instead of the 178,408 I was expecting. The tentacles remained on the target I was attacking when they procced, rather than switching to another target if mind flay is already being cast on my primary target.I'm either unlucky, or the tooltip is wrong. The proc only seems to work off special attacks. I have yet to proc one off a melee swing. The 2% chance is too low. When fighting, I feel like I'm gaining an advantage for having it proc instead of it making up for the loss in secondary stats.-------------------------------

Summary: This is a good weapon if no other weapons are available. I like the idea of the on swing proc, and the tentacle does great damage, but I feel the weapon needs more work. Primarily, a higher proc rate. I'll gladly take a 5-10% chance on crit to spawn, or a 60-90 second ICD w/ a 20% proc rate, but 2% chance on "melee swing" is too little. There needs to be a fix to correct the mind flays not stacking, because if I'm fortunate enough to get 2 tentacles at the same time they better both work. This weapon compared to any other Madness of Deathwing weapons with procs falls at the bottom of the list. I will take the next immediate weapon I can get.

Comment by Workher

Got the LFR version on my Unholy Death Knight alt averaging around 375 ilvl with no tier bonuses. Here are some of the stats that I recorded during Ultraxion 25 in LFR:

Tentacle of the Old One: Mind Flay averaged 10.6% of my damage coming in at 794.6k out of 7.49m.The weapon had 53 total procs over the course of four and a half minutes.

Out of the 53 weapon procs 47 of them were regular hits with none below 14.1k damage.Six of the 53 weapon procs were crits with the highest being 21.8k.Together, the average damage done was 15k per proc.

While death knights will lose out on the crit and haste from Ataraxis, Cudgel of the Warmaster the proc damage should more than make up for the stats lost (also, the weapon skin is righteous).

There are numbers flying around currently, but it will be up to the Logs to see if this was a justifiable move for the sake of balancing the proc rate, or an unfounded one.

Either way, this is an unusual move considering the history of SoT (SoV) and proc rates for weapons/trinkets.

Comment by Hoofen

It was just posted that they are increasing the uptime for the proc from 10 seconds to 12 seconds. The other change is that it will no longer proc from Censure for Paladins. I guess we were getting 2 proc chances for every attack rather then 1 chance like all the rest of the classes. Both these changes are being applied to all 3 versions of this weapon.

Comment by dwarfmasterr

From a Frost Death Knight's point of view, it really makes me want to switch to unholy for this. I already have this weapon and I use it for Blood PvP, and let me tell you... it's amazing. The Tentacles can proc from heart strike swings. I was in a 5's team and I used heart strike 3 times and 3 tentacles came out and attacked whoever had the heart strike hit land on them that triggered the proc. But yeah, this weapon's proc damage is increased by Unholy's mastery. Increases shadow damage done by you and your minions by ##% and the tentacles is considered a minion.

My friend, who is a skilled Unholy dk, was pulling 25k before he got the sword.... he is 7/8 in 10 mans and he pulls 31k now mainly because of the sword, and he just has the LFR version. (I guess all versions of the sword have the same proc damage though)

Comment by SooYeon

From a Fury warrior perspective, this weapon is indeed Best in Slot. Contrary to what some have said on the tentacles attacks, multiple may spawn and each of them CAN attack the boss, not just one at a time. The tentacles will do a fair amount of your total damage. But however, there are some drawbacks. If you are fighting a boss where there is a lot of spell travel time even from melee range (i.e. Ragnaros ) the tentacles will simply wave at him and do nothing. You have to stand at the very edge of the platform, just barely out of the lava. On Ultraxion, your raid will have to move up towards the end of the platform because any further away then the tentacles will not reach. On movement fights where you may be asked to DPS certain HVTs, for example Yor'sahj slimes, having this weapon may be detrimental to your DPS as when they proc when you're beating a slime, they will be quite useless when the slime passes through. Other than that, I've had random misses so I assume my character's hit carries over to the tentacle. I am not sure on this though. Other than that, this weapon has very potent proc.

Comment by thijsvanleeuwen

too overpowerd in arena, that tentacle slows you like hell, also the tantacle have too mutch helth

Comment by Mhat3

Well, it may be over 4500 Damage, and it may have 1k DPS.

But it is still not over 9000 yet, maybe in MoP?

Comment by paul1088

They vamped up the DPS on this weapon. It's over 2k DPS now.

Comment by Geyah

Incase you are looking for yourTentacle's dps on recount remember: it counts as a pet and is tracked seperately from your attacks just below under <Pet Damage>

Comment by notdryad

Funny how a weapon like this, an "epic", has a far better proc than the "legendary" Rogue daggers.

IMO, recolor Heroic Gurthalak to orange.

Comment by Argiach

Hunter weapon.

Comment by L33tFire

I clicked "Find Upgrades..." and a hand came out of my monitor and slapped me in the face.

Comment by Zlex

The "I melt your face" plate PVE and PVP BiS weapon.

Comment by Garroda

Not only is this BiS in PvP, but it's a godsend for Ret Paladins against ranged casters since it procs their only slow effect. This combined with Seal of Justice makes Ret Paladins really hard to get away from once quick moves are on cooldown.

Comment by Untamable

The heroic version of this sword (416) is much better in the arena than Cataclysm 403 PvP weapon (it doesnt give ressilence but the dmg and tentacle is so cool )

Comment by Wartex

best sword ever

Comment by Bbryson

I won one of these for offspec, my fail DPS arms spec.What I really wanted it for was PvP. This thing is crazily OP, at least that is when it procs. It does change your playstyle though, you tend to play with way more aggression, trying to hit everything just to get procs. You'll find yourself Reckstorming the smallest groups, just for procs. You'll be ever consumed by those tentacles. You'll drive whoever you're doing BGs/Arena/Whatever with mad if you're using voice comms. You'll be screaming when you get triple procs, you'll be shouting when you've got doubles, and you'll be bragging about tentacles killing people for you.

You will be consumed by this weapon, you will be called a noob because you've got one, you will be told that you're being carried by tentacles. You'll be the envy of every PvP Hero in the game, and they'll loath you.

You will be enslaved by this weapon, and it will never leave you.

Grimmel - Frostmane EU

Comment by Axetomouth

actually if you go to magisters terrace on heroic with an arms warrior which i did, and pull all the mobs from the first boss into the room with all the mana wyrmlings and bladestorm, you can get alot more than 3 tentacles if they decide to proc

Comment by mattsam

This weapon can pretty much solo arena games, a very nice weapon for pvp

Comment by DarkKnightX

Retribution 5.0.4 does not see an increase in proc rate for Gurthalak, which still leaves it on the same proc rate as UH DK's. UH DK's Mastery still affects the damage of Gurthalak tentacles, while Ret has no unique damage-boosting effects or modifiers to proc rate that other classes do.

Comment by Corq

Just put this in the hands of my minion using the new warlock glyph. Looks great, feels great. You can cut it, swim with it, it's real. Thanks bosley!

Comment by Greas

" By foolotto (6,473 – 3·11·29) on 2011/10/26 (Patch 4.2.2) Out of Date | Report A warrior wielding a pair of these will truly have the "Voice of the DPS".

How do you wield a pair of these when " these " are a 2h weapon.

Comment by Martijoha

By Greas (108 – 1) 10 days ago (Patch 5.1.0) Out of Date | Report " By foolotto (6,473 – 3·11·29) on 2011/10/26 (Patch 4.2.2) Out of Date | ReportA warrior wielding a pair of these will truly have the "Voice of the DPS".