ulf wrote:EPP, you're assuming he wanted to go to WVU. He didn't, so they didn't block a move there. Pretty much all there is to it.

I'm not assuming anything. I've already said that I don't think he's a good fit for the WVU program ( I compared him to Brian Davis )

The issue is that if it's true that the 'prohibited list' includes PSU and WVU, it's Pitt that's making that assumption, not me. As you point out, It seems unnecessary.

I agree with the CBSSPORTS and NBCSPORTS articles, it's more than just a bit petulant and just makes the university look bad. NAN is right about one thing, it'd probably be overturned if he appeals it which makes it even more .

Edit: In case someone doesn't get my Brian Davis reference I've included a article from august 1987 that ran in the Pittsburgh Press. I see a lot of similarities between Davis and Shell. (And a few differences) But what strikes me is Davis's comment that "getting away from home will help me, I was too close to home at Pitt. Too many people would come over to see me there. I was the type of person who couldn't tell them to leave. They were my friends, but they took away from my study time."

Davis also had a child while he was still in his teens.

Davis went to Kansas but determined that Kansas was too far from home. He then returned to the area (3-4 hours away) at Montgomery CC.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Shell's 'career' follows a similar path.

ulf wrote:Is there anything credible saying WVU and PSU were on the list?

Depends, do you find NAN credible?

newarenanow wrote:

cheesesteakwithegg wrote:

ExPatriatePen wrote:Did Pitt publish a list? I'm curious who's on it if so.

He asked for transfers to Arizona, ASU, Cal, and UCLA. Pitt permitted transfers to Cal and UCLA, but blocked the other 2 because Fraud and Rich Rod have relationships with many of the players at Pitt, and they dont want that to become a trend. Apparently when Flacco transferred to Delaware, another Pitt player asked for a transfer there, and Pitt declined that for the same reason, not wanting to start a trend.

ulf wrote:Is there anything credible saying WVU and PSU were on the list?

Depends, do you find NAN credible?

newarenanow wrote:

cheesesteakwithegg wrote:

ExPatriatePen wrote:Did Pitt publish a list? I'm curious who's on it if so.

He asked for transfers to Arizona, ASU, Cal, and UCLA. Pitt permitted transfers to Cal and UCLA, but blocked the other 2 because Fraud and Rich Rod have relationships with many of the players at Pitt, and they dont want that to become a trend. Apparently when Flacco transferred to Delaware, another Pitt player asked for a transfer there, and Pitt declined that for the same reason, not wanting to start a trend.

tbh, a thorough web search turns up NOTHING credible on the PSU and WVU prohibitions.

The only thing I could find out there is a unattributed post on cardiachill.com.

WVU is pretty deep (relative to other skill positions) at RB and as I've said before, at this point, I see Shell as a Jason Gwaltney, Brian Davis kind of guy. In other words, highly gifted but not someone you want on your team.

He might be better off at a school like Marshall, or even App. State. Maybe a MAC or Conf USA school that's far enough from home that his friends won't distract him, where he can get more personalized attenion with respect to study habbits, and where he's close enough to still maintain a relationship with his daughters.

I don't see why a school should feel bad about denying an athlete of going anywhere. They are the ones that broke the scholarship, and decided to leave. That's on the athlete, not the school. This goes for Pitt or any other college.

I hope Shell gets his head on straight though wherever he goes, not for his sake, but for his kids sake.