If this happens, it would be a huge step forward. Men’s Health Magazine is holding competition to find their newest cover star, and currently sitting in first place is a man named Aydian Dowling, who just so happens to be trans.

Aydian sat down with Ellen (good on her for attempting to introduce trans-ness to her soccer-mum viewership!) where the two chatted about what it’s like to identify as trans, and why Aydian is a prime candidate for that Men’s Health cover. Hopefully it’ll help to spread even more acceptance! Check it out below.