I love how they spend the whole video talking about how important they recognize _____ being, where _____ is any of twenty or so things that Halo 4 didn't get right at all (having a beta, focus on map control, 4 v 4 as the sweet spot, players starting on the same footing).

I love how they spend the whole video talking about how important they recognize _____ being, where _____ is any of twenty or so things that Halo 4 didn't get right at all (having a beta, focus on map control, 4 v 4 as the sweet spot, players starting on the same footing).

#nope

I thought that was pretty funny.

"Remember everything about classic Halo, that was super important, and that we completely threw out the window for Halo 4? That shit is crucial."

Here's a gallery with all the weapons in the trailer. These definitely can't be final, the colors and textures don't look anywhere near complete and they flashed across the screen in the trailer so maybe they thought no one would look at them too closely.

Wow. There is a lot of bitching in this thread. Halo 2 was shit compared to its predecessor, and you guys look back on that like it was heaven. It seems like what is missing from these conversations on previous halo and future halo is perspective.

A 13-yr old girl who babysits for us plays the crap out of all halo games and loves them. She's not an idiot. So what is missing from her experience that you guys are getting so butt-hurt over?

Wow. There is a lot of bitching in this thread. Halo 2 was shit compared to its predecessor, and you guys look back on that like it was heaven. It seems like what is missing from these conversations on previous halo and future halo is perspective.

A 13-yr old girl who babysits for us plays the crap out of all halo games and loves them. She's not an idiot. So what is missing from her experience that you guys are getting so butt-hurt over?

Wow. There is a lot of bitching in this thread. Halo 2 was shit compared to its predecessor, and you guys look back on that like it was heaven. It seems like what is missing from these conversations on previous halo and future halo is perspective.

A 13-yr old girl who babysits for us plays the crap out of all halo games and loves them. She's not an idiot. So what is missing from her experience that you guys are getting so butt-hurt over?

I don't know your kids' babysitter so I can only guess at her rationale, but think about her age for a second. She's 13. She was just born when Halo:CE came out (FUCK we are old). Has she played them to the lengths we AJ douchecocks have? Did she play them in order? Hell, I don't think she would've been able to even play Halo 2 online depending on when she picked up the series. I'd argue what's missing from her opinion is what is messing with ours: perspective. I don't think there's any way she's experienced Halo's multiplayer from beginning to end like we have. To her, the dramatic shifts from the first 3 games to the last ones probably aren't as jarring.

As for me, I'm butthurt because after Halo 3 the series has been trying to not be Halo. Reach showed how little of a shit Bungie gave about the series anymore. 4 was trying too hard to stand out as a non-Bungie game, and Drew did a good job showing how overdesigned everything is. What disappointed me the most though with Halo 4 wasn't how badly 343 showed they had no idea how to write, design, or balance a Halo game, it was that 343 showed they didn't even know how to be original. Heavy COD influences in multiplayer, paint by numbers plot, etc. Halo 4 was the first game I felt had the shitty "appeal to the lowest common denominator" icing on top. So yeah, when THAT is your last taste of this franchise, Halo 2 IS heaven. Almost no one here will argue that Halo 2 plays better than CE, but goddammit we still played that game for 3 years. Halo 4 didn't even last 3 months.