I have the original which I guess is the trail mesh... It's a very handy thing to own... Highly recommend owning one if you like to be topless when it's really hot. You still get to see out/ have airflow better than running safari style.

I just ordered this from eBay seller. It is the two piece full cover, minus side cages. It also includes all bungee ball cords. I think this seller is less expensive than the actual Spiderwebshade site. Here's eBay seller link and he has other styles to choose from, as well.Jeep TJ Spiderwebshade SW2TJUM 97-06 | eBay

I have one that the PO put on it and I love it. I have had jeeps in the past and didnt put the top down a lot due to the sun burning my head. Now I can go all day and not have a hat on and it doesn't bother me and I live in Florida. OH i have the trailMesh and leave it on all the time. The soft top goes over it with no problem.

I went with the Trail Mesh rather than the Ultra Mesh because its tougher and more durable. It comes with the 5 year warranty while the Ultra Mesh only gets a 1 year warranty. And Spiderwebshade only declares the Trail Mesh to be resistant to penetrations and such. They don't brag about the toughness of the Ultra mesh.

When it all came down to it... the cost for the complete Cage system was only $30 more for the Trail Mesh.

I think the Trail mesh is going to last longer and the cost difference is minimal.

You can make one fairly easily if you're inclined also... I made windows and a longer one for road trips with the kids to see if it helped with the wind on the highway. FWIW, it really didn't cut down the wind enough to make a difference as far as my kids were concerned... But it does keep lots of debris off your head off road while not inhibiting the view...

I went with the Trail Mesh rather than the Ultra Mesh because its tougher and more durable. It comes with the 5 year warranty while the Ultra Mesh only gets a 1 year warranty. And Spiderwebshade only declares the Trail Mesh to be resistant to penetrations and such. They don't brag about the toughness of the Ultra mesh.

When it all came down to it... the cost for the complete Cage system was only $30 more for the Trail Mesh.

I think the Trail mesh is going to last longer and the cost difference is minimal.

I agree with this -- Order the trail mesh since it has a longer warranty. I'd stay away from anything with only a 1 year warranty. I will probably order this one too soon.

You can make one fairly easily if you're inclined also... I made windows and a longer one for road trips with the kids to see if it helped with the wind on the highway. FWIW, it really didn't cut down the wind enough to make a difference as far as my kids were concerned... But it does keep lots of debris off your head off road while not inhibiting the view...

Originally I had thought about making one. I just want the top piece that comes about halfway back over the back seat. Where did you get the fabric, and what is it called?

I have the ultramesh. I can say it stretches a lot and the back flaps a lot in the wind. I won't say I'm unhappy with it, it's serving it's purpose, but I wish I'd gotten the trailmesh. I think I'm gonna wear this one out by the end of the summer.

__________________If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.Will Rogers

I have the ultramesh. I can say it stretches a lot and the back flaps a lot in the wind. I won't say I'm unhappy with it, it's serving it's purpose, but I wish I'd gotten the trailmesh. I think I'm gonna wear this one out by the end of the summer.

Thanks for that info, if I don't make one, I'll go with the trailmesh.

How well does your alarm system work, any false alarms? I'm considering an alarm system too.

Thanks for that info, if I don't make one, I'll go with the trailmesh.

How well does your alarm system work, any false alarms? I'm considering an alarm system too.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the viper system. It took a long time to get the sensitivity set. In the beginning there were a lot o false alarms. Now hardly any false alarms. And it does work with the doors off.

__________________If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.Will Rogers

Originally I had thought about making one. I just want the top piece that comes about halfway back over the back seat. Where did you get the fabric, and what is it called?

It's called Pet screen and you can get it from Lowe's.... Or you can google out door mesh fabric and spend a lot more money for the same thing.... The pet screen is available in 4' widths and one roll will be plenty for your Jeep...

It's called Pet screen and you can get it from Lowe's.... Or you can google out door mesh fabric and spend a lot more money for the same thing.... The pet screen is available in 4' widths and one roll will be plenty for your Jeep...

Awesome! Thanks for the idea! I'm going to try this. I was going to buy a spiderweb cloth, but just spent a bunch on some expensive mods. So if I wait until I have enough to pay $100 for the pre made one, it seriously might take me a year to get one...

My wife said you can probably get grommet kits at a sewing store.

Regarding the spider balls, any known cheap way to get something like that? I know I could use zip ties, but looking for something permanent. I guess I could just order the spider balls though, they're not too expensive.

Awesome! Thanks for the idea! I'm going to try this. I was going to buy a spiderweb cloth, but just spent a bunch on some expensive mods. So if I wait until I have enough to pay $100 for the pre made one, it seriously might take me a year to get one...

My wife said you can probably get grommet kits at a sewing store.

Regarding the spider balls, any known cheap way to get something like that? I know I could use zip ties, but looking for something permanent. I guess I could just order the spider balls though, they're not too expensive.

Grommets can be found at Lowe's as well, and short bungies too. But Walmart has shorty bungies 4 for $2.... You'll need 8.

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the viper system. It took a long time to get the sensitivity set. In the beginning there were a lot o false alarms. Now hardly any false alarms. And it does work with the doors off.

I asked about "Pet Shade cloth" and the only thing they had was a kit that is made to cover a dog kennel, and that was $50. So he showed me the garden shade cloth -- $2 / foot. So I bought 10' of that. It's 6' wide, so I'll just cut it to fit.

The grommet kit was cheap, I think like $5. Don't remember exactly. They also had the mini bungies -- 4 for $2, so got two packs of 4.

I'll try to put it together next weekend. I'll have to see if my wife can help me get the rear top off.

I don't have both so I can't say with certainly. Its just what the manufacturer says about it.

And I don't think, in any case, there is a claim that one is thicker than the other. Tougher material seems to be the implications.

You can have a tougher thread material that is the same diameter. Which appears to be the case here I think. Its sort of like, imagine, the difference between fiberglass screen and Aluminum screen. They both are the same open spaces between them. One is easy to cut and more cloth like and one is more metal sheet like. Something along those lines I think is how to understand it.

However, for all I know it could be thicker but yet they spaced it differently? Like in mesh size difference? Making the holes in between the same? Thats possible I suppose but not how I imagined it from what they say about it.

But if you have the same amount of light blockage you have the same amount of "see through" it stands to reason. No matter how they achieved it.