Gold Member

AND DESPITE ALL THE HATER RHETORIC FROM THE RIGHT, ALL THE NONSENSE FROM THE GOP AND THE STRUGGLING ECONOMY. AMERICAN VOTERS STILL FIND OBAMA THE PREFERRED CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. HE WAS FOUND TO HAVE MORE EMPATHY, MORE LEADERSHIP AND MORE VIEWS IN COMMON WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE. ALL OF THIS IN THE LATEST TIME MAGAZINE POLL CONDUCTED EARLIER THIS MONTH OVER A PERIOD OF A WEEK, USING SCIENTIFIC METHODS THAT ALL REPUTABLE OPINION SAMPLING ORGANIZATIONS USE. WHILE HIS OVERALL APPROVAL RATING IS 44%, HE IS VIEWED SYMPATHETICALLY MANY MORE VOTERS, WHO REALIZE WHAT OBNOXIOUS , GOVERNMENT-HATING TRASH HE HAS TO WORK WITH IN DC.
ALL THE REPUGANANTCAN FLAVAS OF THE MONTH NOTWITHSTANDING, OBAMA IS THE ROCKY ROAD WARRIOR OF 2012. HOW SWEET IT IS!!!:biggrin1:

Gold Member

AND DESPITE ALL THE HATER RHETORIC FROM THE RIGHT, ALL THE NONSENSE FROM THE GOP AND THE STRUGGLING ECONOMY. AMERICAN VOTERS STILL FIND OBAMA THE PREFERRED CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. HE WAS FOUND TO HAVE MORE EMPATHY, MORE LEADERSHIP AND MORE VIEWS IN COMMON WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE. ALL OF THIS IN THE LATEST TIME MAGAZINE POLL CONDUCTED EARLIER THIS MONTH OVER A PERIOD OF A WEEK, USING SCIENTIFIC METHODS THAT ALL REPUTABLE OPINION SAMPLING ORGANIZATIONS USE. WHILE HIS OVERALL APPROVAL RATING IS 44%, HE IS VIEWED SYMPATHETICALLY MANY MORE VOTERS, WHO REALIZE WHAT OBNOXIOUS , GOVERNMENT-HATING TRASH HE HAS TO WORK WITH IN DC.
ALL THE REPUGANANTCAN FLAVAS OF THE MONTH NOTWITHSTANDING, OBAMA IS THE ROCKY ROAD WARRIOR OF 2012. HOW SWEET IT IS!!!:biggrin1:

Click to expand...

I think it is real sweet. I just can't believe people actually vote for losers like those bottom feeders. They are all anti-people and anti America.

Wait until the news breaks about how much money the banks, wall street execs, and big business are pouring into campaign coffers. Former Goldman Sachs exec Jon Corzine has already raised over half a million for his campaign. If you follow the money, you'll see something is rotten in all over Denmark. Both parties stink of corporate influence peddling through their campaign support.

Gold Member

I'm on the fence with politics as usual... There's good and bad with the current adminstration, but more bad with the current candidates. From what I have seen, the GOP has nothing on the current administration at this time. They all have half assed agendas all positioned to keep their shareholders and corporations happy.
Steady as she goes....another 4 years.

Empathy and compassion only goes so far. We need to have someone that can force changes to be made to grow the economy, get people back to work, and fix the education system.

In my opinion all candidates should be focusing on those three things. Nothing else matters if we're all broke, homeless, and uneducated.
Sure there's other issues that are pressing...but we really need to get the economy stabilized and people back to work.

Empathy and compassion only goes so far. We need to have someone that can force changes to be made to grow the economy, get people back to work, and fix the education system.

In my opinion all candidates should be focusing on those three things. Nothing else matters if we're all broke, homeless, and uneducated.
Sure there's other issues that are pressing...but we really need to get the economy stabilized and people back to work.

Click to expand...

Considering that both parties just passed free trade agreements with Korea, Columbia, and Panama, none of the parties including the President are overly concerned with protecting the jobs we have now.

Gold Member

AND DESPITE ALL THE HATER RHETORIC FROM THE RIGHT, ALL THE NONSENSE FROM THE GOP AND THE STRUGGLING ECONOMY. AMERICAN VOTERS STILL FIND OBAMA THE PREFERRED CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. HE WAS FOUND TO HAVE MORE EMPATHY, MORE LEADERSHIP AND MORE VIEWS IN COMMON WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE. ALL OF THIS IN THE LATEST TIME MAGAZINE POLL CONDUCTED EARLIER THIS MONTH OVER A PERIOD OF A WEEK, USING SCIENTIFIC METHODS THAT ALL REPUTABLE OPINION SAMPLING ORGANIZATIONS USE. WHILE HIS OVERALL APPROVAL RATING IS 44%, HE IS VIEWED SYMPATHETICALLY MANY MORE VOTERS, WHO REALIZE WHAT OBNOXIOUS , GOVERNMENT-HATING TRASH HE HAS TO WORK WITH IN DC.
ALL THE REPUGANANTCAN FLAVAS OF THE MONTH NOTWITHSTANDING, OBAMA IS THE ROCKY ROAD WARRIOR OF 2012. HOW SWEET IT IS!!!:biggrin1:

Click to expand...

Setting aside the shrill vulgarities of your post, such polls, especially at this juncture, have to be interpreted with care:

The opposition has not yet coalesced around 1 candidate, the primaries are far from over, and we're still more than 1 year away from Election Day 2012.

No one, left, right or center, is underestimating the immense advantage held by the incumbent, or this president's ability to raise funds. Ironically, BHO received more campaign money from Wall Street than Bush 2 did.

Gold Member

AND DESPITE ALL THE HATER RHETORIC FROM THE RIGHT, ALL THE NONSENSE FROM THE GOP AND THE STRUGGLING ECONOMY. AMERICAN VOTERS STILL FIND OBAMA THE PREFERRED CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. HE WAS FOUND TO HAVE MORE EMPATHY, MORE LEADERSHIP AND MORE VIEWS IN COMMON WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE. ALL OF THIS IN THE LATEST TIME MAGAZINE POLL CONDUCTED EARLIER THIS MONTH OVER A PERIOD OF A WEEK, USING SCIENTIFIC METHODS THAT ALL REPUTABLE OPINION SAMPLING ORGANIZATIONS USE. WHILE HIS OVERALL APPROVAL RATING IS 44%, HE IS VIEWED SYMPATHETICALLY MANY MORE VOTERS, WHO REALIZE WHAT OBNOXIOUS , GOVERNMENT-HATING TRASH HE HAS TO WORK WITH IN DC.
ALL THE REPUGANANTCAN FLAVAS OF THE MONTH NOTWITHSTANDING, OBAMA IS THE ROCKY ROAD WARRIOR OF 2012. HOW SWEET IT IS!!!:biggrin1:

Gold Member

AND DESPITE ALL THE HATER RHETORIC FROM THE RIGHT, ALL THE NONSENSE FROM THE GOP AND THE STRUGGLING ECONOMY. AMERICAN VOTERS STILL FIND OBAMA THE PREFERRED CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT. HE WAS FOUND TO HAVE MORE EMPATHY, MORE LEADERSHIP AND MORE VIEWS IN COMMON WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THAN ANY OTHER CANDIDATE. ALL OF THIS IN THE LATEST TIME MAGAZINE POLL CONDUCTED EARLIER THIS MONTH OVER A PERIOD OF A WEEK, USING SCIENTIFIC METHODS THAT ALL REPUTABLE OPINION SAMPLING ORGANIZATIONS USE. WHILE HIS OVERALL APPROVAL RATING IS 44%, HE IS VIEWED SYMPATHETICALLY MANY MORE VOTERS, WHO REALIZE WHAT OBNOXIOUS , GOVERNMENT-HATING TRASH HE HAS TO WORK WITH IN DC.
ALL THE REPUGANANTCAN FLAVAS OF THE MONTH NOTWITHSTANDING, OBAMA IS THE ROCKY ROAD WARRIOR OF 2012. HOW SWEET IT IS!!!:biggrin1:

Not surprised at this but as has been stated elsewhere things are really to early to call either way.

The citizens of the United States of America in this election are an exponential magnification of the State of California.

California had no alternative but to place former Governor Edmund G. "Gerry" Brown back into the office of Governor. It was not that Brown was good it was that the GOP individuals running against him were that bad. What happened was that many went with the failure that they knew rather than the failure that they did not know.

I fear that the Federal Elections will be much the same. People in the end will cry and wring their hands, but unless something really earthshaking takes place I see in the end the two candidates being a microscopically close race between Mit Romney and Barak Obama. Perry, Cain and the rest will be like setting up ducks in a shooting gallery. Romney is the only one who will be a great deal harder to target. Right now voter apathy is at an all time high simply because of the lack of progress. The only GOP candidate that has a reduced chance of throwing the election to Obama is Romney.
I think that in the end and at the last minute you will see a very quiet exit of Perry, Cain and Bachmann. If they stay in too long they run the chance of polarization and that could give the election to Obama by a wide margin. The other thing is that the protests are growing exponentially. If the GOP continues to ignore and champion support what is perceived as "corporate greed" it will begin to weigh heavily and more voters hearing this message stand a chance of taking it seriously. In fact, the GOP needs to shut their mouths and start the political rhetoric on what "they" are going to do to investigate while in fact intending to do no such thing. It was this kind of thing that really began to hurt the GOP and it was this kind of thing that unified the Democratic Party back in the late 1960's giving that party a great deal more power. Also remember that people normally quiet are beginning to seethe in anger at the fact that religion is become more of an issue than economy and most realize that Reaganomics which at least sounded good was a failure because the wealthy only passed the wealth on to other countries not on to Americans.

Gold Member

I think that in the end and at the last minute you will see a very quiet exit of Perry, Cain and Bachmann. If they stay in too long they run the chance of polarization and that could give the election to Obama by a wide margin.

Click to expand...

(Courier New is very difficult to read.)

I like your post in general, but I can't see any reason to think the above usual suspects have the breadth of vision to get out for the good of the broader Republican Party.
Do you?
Maybe I'm too cynical.

Gold Member

first , Fuzzy Ken, Brown WAS and IS an excellent governor. HE actually WANTS to do a good job, and is not busy banging his housekeeper or keeping on eye on Hollywood for a safe , post-gubernatorial landing. Jerry was an excellent governor from 1974-82; i know, i was a new teacher in CA public schools then. I am grateful for his service.

second, Time magazine uses the same methods of polling the other surveys use. NO surprise? right, the results are no surprise because the American people look at the race and have serious doubts about ALL the GOP dwarves. and for good reasons: competence, intelligence, grace under pressure, courage and character. Obama has all these qualities; the GOP candidates do not.

as to whether the race will be microscopically close, we shall see. i am doing my best to make sure it isnt. Let the clown circus continue tonight in LAS VEGAS! CNN just reported that two thirds of GOP voters are unsure of who should be their candidatein 2012 . WE LIKE THOSE NUMBERS!!!

Gold Member

Ask yourself if the there is one of the nutbag Republicans that you could vote for with a clear conscience. If the Republican want to win they need to dump the religious right just like the Democrats pretty much dumped the loony left last election.

Gold Member

f
as to whether the race will be microscopically close, we shall see. i am doing my best to make sure it isnt. Let the clown circus continue tonight in LAS VEGAS! CNN just reported that two thirds of GOP voters are unsure of who should be their candidatein 2012 . WE LIKE THOSE NUMBERS!!!

Click to expand...

If you are banking on that as the evidence that O. will get reelected think carefully. About 4 years ago there was a wide divide on whether Clinton or Obama was the candidate of choice for most of the Democrat voters. Once a choice was made at the convention lots of voters jumped from Clinton to Obama without hesitation. The same will happen with the Republicans.

Gold Member

Ask yourself if the there is one of the nutbag Republicans that you could vote for with a clear conscience. If the Republican want to win they need to dump the religious right just like the Democrats pretty much dumped the loony left last election.

Click to expand...

Yet Pelosi and friends have expressed public support for the "Occupy" movement, which ostentatiously includes proud card-carrying Communists and other nut jobs.

VerifiedGold Member

Yet Pelosi and friends have expressed public support for the "Occupy" movement, which ostentatiously includes proud card-carrying Communists and other nut jobs.

Click to expand...

So, there are "card-carrying Communists" all over the world? I've been seeing protests spreading around the globe so I guess they're all Commies/Socialists/Marxists or whatever the new spook term is today.

I voted for Obama, in my very first election, and I was excited about his prospects after the mess of Bush. I really expected him to work with Republicans and stop this childish bickering that has been going on as long as Ive been alive.

I wont vote for him again. I really think he's made it worse, and now it's starting to hit home. I'm going to graduate soo, and all my friends that have already graduated, cant find jobs, (unless its at "Daddy's").

I also wont vote for anyone that wants to stick their head in my bedroom, and tell me who I should or should not be fucking. So it looks like i'll sit this one out.

Gold Member

I voted for Obama, in my very first election, and I was excited about his prospects after the mess of Bush. I really expected him to work with Republicans and stop this childish bickering that has been going on as long as Ive been alive.

I wont vote for him again. I really think he's made it worse, and now it's starting to hit home. I'm going to graduate soo, and all my friends that have already graduated, cant find jobs, (unless its at "Daddy's").

I also wont vote for anyone that wants to stick their head in my bedroom, and tell me who I should or should not be fucking. So it looks like i'll sit this one out.

Click to expand...

I understand your frustration, but I do have to ask: What exactly could Obama have done to make the Republicans work with him?