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Not really. In that case she probably wouldn't catch Corsola with Totodile getting same amount of focus like her most active pokemon Corsola and Poliwhirl did. Which received more or less equal amount of focus as Ash Totodile did.

I think it was mistake to give Ash all three starters in Johto competing with his Kanto trio, which resulted in underdeveloped and poorly handled Johto team.

At least with Misty Totodile would have get better training since she is water trainer with water types being her specialty(Poliwhirl had bigger win record than Ash Totodile in JOhto), and actually have chance to evolve considering how it would likely be used in gym battles gaining experience. As opposite to rotting at Oaks lab.

Well as we saw with Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charizard, Ash having all 3 starters can be done and it could be brilliant as well. The Kanto starters are the ones everyone remembers. I think the writers did a really great job with those 3. They each had their own personalities and focus and you could really get the sense that Ash had a strong bond with them. So the writers did a great job there especially with Charizard. Bulbasaur and Squirtle didn't evolve but they didn't have to. People fell so in love with Bulbasaur and Squirtle that you never heard people say, "why didn't Ash make them evolve?!" I guess you heard some of that but not much. Now I didn't watch Johto in awhile so I won't judge but the reason his Johto Pokemon were handled poorly is probably because Ash still had his Kanto starters with him. I mean in THE JOHTO SEASON, it was Ash's Kanto Pokemon Charizard that won Ash his first badge, last badge, beat Gary, battled Entei and fought with Blaziken. I loved that honestly because I am such a Charizard fan so of course I didn't mind it. But when you have the writers giving Charizard the big wins in Johto, it takes something away from his Johto Pokemon. It makes it look like the writers didn't care about them as much as Charizard which I'm sure they cared for Charizard way more. But the point is with a series as long as Johto, Ash having 3 starter Pokemon could work if the writers did their job. Like I said, I didn't see Johto in awhile so I won't really say if the writers did their job or not. Although I will say it is kinda strange how Cyndaquill ended up evolving in Sinnoh. They had time to evolve him in Johto. Little strange to me. No big deal. But Cyndaquill evolving is a huge thing. It would have been awesome if it happened in Johto and then Quilava was a force in the Johto League. I mean if the writers are gonna evolve Ash's Pokemon especially a starter Pokemon like Cyndaquill, it makes sense for it to be in Johto since Ash is with Quilava. Quilava appeared in Sinnoh but at that point, Ash didn't travel with Quilava so we didn't really get to have to many episodes with Quilava like we did with Bayleef since Quilava quickly got sent back to Oak after he battled in the Sinnoh League and Quilava didn't even get to battle against Tobias.

Wouldn't have changed anything. Sorry. Besides, she already has an *** full of water pokemon. She can use them.

Yeah and we all know that the writers were gonna give Ash a water Pokemon every region. I think Ash still had Squirtle when he got Totodile. I think he did. Not too sure though. But Ash needed a water type since Squirtle left in Johto anyway. It didn't necessarily have to be Totodile but since at that point in the show they always gave Ash the starters it made sense. Sicne then, the writers made it a point that Ash doesn't need to always get the starters. Atleast they made it that way in Hoenn and Sinnoh.

Wouldn't have changed anything. Sorry. Besides, she already has an *** full of water pokemon. She can use them.

It would because looking long term Totodile would have received more training and development if stayed with Misty due to likely being used for gym battles. Which would increase his chances for evolution, as well probably having more wins in Johto than it did under Ash command. If Poliwhirl or Corsola were anything to go by.

It would because looking long term Totodile would have received more training and development if stayed with Misty due to likely being used for gym battles. Which would increase his chances for evolution, as well probably having more wins in Johto than it did under Ash command. If Poliwhirl or Corsola were anything to go by.

What purpose dos it serve currently rotting at Oaks lab?

What if he gave it to Misty before he left for Hoenn when they were saying goodbye. Kinda like when James gave Cacnea to Gardenia so Cacnea could get stronger? Misty could then use Totodile for her gym battles.

Well as we saw with Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charizard, Ash having all 3 starters can be done and it could be brilliant as well. The Kanto starters are the ones everyone remembers. I think the writers did a really great job with those 3. They each had their own personalities and focus and you could really get the sense that Ash had a strong bond with them. So the writers did a great job there especially with Charizard. Bulbasaur and Squirtle didn't evolve but they didn't have to. People fell so in love with Bulbasaur and Squirtle that you never heard people say, "why didn't Ash make them evolve?!" I guess you heard some of that but not much. Now I didn't watch Johto in awhile so I won't judge but the reason his Johto Pokemon were handled poorly is probably because Ash still had his Kanto starters with him. I mean in THE JOHTO SEASON, it was Ash's Kanto Pokemon Charizard that won Ash his first badge, last badge, beat Gary, battled Entei and fought with Blaziken. I loved that honestly because I am such a Charizard fan so of course I didn't mind it. But when you have the writers giving Charizard the big wins in Johto, it takes something away from his Johto Pokemon. It makes it look like the writers didn't care about them as much as Charizard which I'm sure they cared for Charizard way more. But the point is with a series as long as Johto, Ash having 3 starter Pokemon could work if the writers did their job. Like I said, I didn't see Johto in awhile so I won't really say if the writers did their job or not. Although I will say it is kinda strange how Cyndaquill ended up evolving in Sinnoh. They had time to evolve him in Johto. Little strange to me. No big deal. But Cyndaquill evolving is a huge thing. It would have been awesome if it happened in Johto and then Quilava was a force in the Johto League. I mean if the writers are gonna evolve Ash's Pokemon especially a starter Pokemon like Cyndaquill, it makes sense for it to be in Johto since Ash is with Quilava. Quilava appeared in Sinnoh but at that point, Ash didn't travel with Quilava so we didn't really get to have to many episodes with Quilava like we did with Bayleef since Quilava quickly got sent back to Oak after he battled in the Sinnoh League and Quilava didn't even get to battle against Tobias.

Cyndaquil not evolving in Johto wasn't really that much of a big deal since he was a really powerful pokemon ,people were ok with him not evolving in Johto and Totodile going with Ash was a good move because Totodile still became a strong pokemon. Cyndaquil evolving later in Sinnoh should not had happen and the only reason why he evolve was for them to promote the HeartGold and SoulSilver games. I'm pretty sure a lot of people said why Bulbasaur and Squritle did not evolve but they were ok with them not evolving, a lot of people didn't mind that Cyndaquil and Totodile did not evolve in Johto since they were ok it. Ash taking the Kanto pokemon with him to Johto was the best move the writers ever made,even though Ash still had his kanto Pokemon the Johto Pokemon were handled perfectly well.

Not everyone wanted Cyndaquil are Totodile to evolve? You seem to forgot everyone has different opinions on wether the Johto team was handled poorly are not.

The majority of the fandom certainly did. The fact that Ash's Johto team is almost unamiously agree to be his worst team in the entire series says a lot. The writers even completely abandoned the Johto starters to rot at Oak's lab getting little to no screentime because of it.

There's a reason why Bulbasaur/Squirtle/Charizard came back so much and the Johto team was treated like throwaway crap in comparison. Ash's Hoenn got tremendous amount of screentime and most likely his DP Pokemon will make a comeback as well.

The majority of the fandom certainly did. The fact that Ash's Johto team is almost unamiously agree to be his worst team in the entire series says a lot. The writers even completely abandoned the Johto starters to rot at Oak's lab getting little to no screentime because of it.

There's a reason why Bulbasaur/Squirtle/Charizard came back so much and the Johto team was treated like throwaway crap in comparison. Ash's Hoenn got tremendous amount of screentime and most likely his DP Pokemon will make a comeback as well.

I don't think the fandom really had a problem with Cyndaquil and Totodile not evolving. It is only opinions wether the Johto
team is the worst team of the series are not ,since it is only opinions not facts,the Johto did had some good focus and sreentime ,and they weren't treated like crap either.

The reason why the writers brought back Bulbasaur/Squirtle/Charizard was due to them being Ash's first original starters,Ash even used them over his Hoenn team pretty much says a lot,as for the DP Team they are not coming back anytime soon but only the writers know that.

This episode was great - Misty and Ash both got something out of this episode. Ash got a new Pokémon and Misty's Poliwag evolved in Poliwhirl.

I actually agree that bringing Ash's Kanto Pokémon to Johto was a hit and miss simultaneously. Yes, it was awesome to see some extra action of the awesome team Ash build during Kanto, but it also made screening time for Ash's Johto Pokémon much less that comparing it to other regions like Hoenn and Sinnoh. In the end, I think it was good for Ash having Totodile - considering the fact Ash's Squirtle went back to the Squirtle Squad and was thus without any water-type Pokémon + Misty captured a Corsela later on in the series. With those two thing in mind, it was fair to give Ash Totodile for his time in Johto. Whether it was more useful if Misty got Totodile for her gym matches than instead staying at Oak's ranch is debatable in my opinion.

Imagine: You're innocently dancing around the water like the weirdo you are just like everyday when these two creeps that can't stop screaming at each other start following you around and one of them ends up catching you. Not only that, they don't know which of them caught you so they have to go and battle over you.

Too bad that Waninoko eventually went to Satoshi and he received the least development. I love the interaction between Satoshi and Kasumi for Waninoko. But it should be Kasumi to win the battle and if that happens then Waninoko probably receives a better development.

I originally wanted Misty to catch Totodile here since I wasn't a fan of the idea of Ash having three Johto Starters, but I guess it was for the best tbh. I'm glad that Misty took initiative, although I was never a big fan of Poliwhirl as a species, so seeing Misty's cute little Poliwag evolve into Poliwhirl here made me a bit sad.

So i randomly run across this episode at my friends house watching it. Decided to join in and refresh my memory; definitely didn't regret it.

This episode is one of reasons why Misty is still my favorite female protagonist from pokemon.

It was really cool seeing her be so passionate and determined to catch Totodile accusing Ash of dirty tricks. Brimming with feisty, brash and fangirly nature while trying to remain selfpoised.

Battle was one of better ones. Maybe not so much in diversity of attacks and detailed strategy. But whole tension going between her and Ash, lot of funny comments and ways to outsmart opponent(like sending Togepi to battle Pikachu)made this clash truly memorable.

Battle which i think Misty had really good chance of winning when Poliwag evolved bringing Bulbasaur on ropes.

In end i feel Totodile would have been better of with Misty in longer run. Who as water specialist has wider knowledge and experience in training water pokemon. Especially when her Poliwhirl and Corsola not counting TR had more success than Totodile had in Johto. Even in TR battles im not sure if Totodile was used much to begin with by Ash.

Along with Totodile at Cerulean gym having chance to be frequntly used and improve himself possibly evolving, unlike its case now rotting at Oak ranch.

Or in case of traveling in future entering tournaments, training under water experts like Siebold, Lorelei, Kyle or Wallace to become water master gaining more as water pokemon that way.

Either way this was fantastic episode reinforcing on my belief why i felt Ash had out of all female companions most spontaneous, enjoyable and full of playful conflict of beliefs dynamic with Misty.

It also showed how friendship between those two definitely matured since Kanto. When Misty by end of episode commented how she and Ash are above everything friends for very long time and shouldnt let envy and jealousy stand in their way when he got Totodile instead.