To be fair, all things being equal noone would join Yahoo if they had an offer from Google. In other words, if you are at Yahoo, you probably didn't make it to GoogleSo why do we pretend that prestige doesn't exist.

@nibbles why does it matter that he’s gay? Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

You work at a glorified taxi company that has never made a dime of profit and you have the gall to shit on us? Take a step back before speaking on our margins, maybe that will help dislodge your head from your ass

I don’t use FB but FB has a serious disregard for their users. Apple on the other hand just doesn’t care about user feedback and forces people to like their shitty non haptic keyboard and Touch Bar which no user asked for, nor uses

If you are at Amazon, it almost certainly means you didn't make it to Google. (Exceptions are there, but on average all things being equal noone works pick Amazon over Google).This is exactly what this list tries to quantify

First of all these rankings are shit, they are literally based on the toughness of the interview these companies have and nothing else. Secondly ppl who really believe in such a list are idiots as they think tough interviews = great company.Now, too your statement, what's the point?. So Google has the toughest interview to crack and even pays more at lower levels but launches shitty products, hasn't launched anything in years and is just running on organic growth. Whats the point of having so tough interviews if you can't do shit as a company. I really feel sorry for ppl who join Google and just stay their coz of pride but learn or launch nothing worthwhile. Then isn't it better to join any other company which actually helps you grow?

Amazon is the worst role I have ever done in my life. Managers are just glorified document factories constantly bickering and fighting over headcount. I miss tech.And before you tell me to leave Amazon if I don't like it - yeah already working on it.

I joined Amazon with starry eyes imagining working across cutting tech and brilliant people to deliver massive value to our customers. I had no idea what actually goes on on the inside. Its such a Wizard of Oz moment when the spell finally breaks.

I don't flex where I work at online, I don't gain anything from people knowing. But it's you who cares about the anonymous internet points. And your life is decaying while you sit in a smelly house with like 5 dudes because you prioritize money over sanity. Oh and Google rejected you too so you want to feel better about working at Uber

Lol you should read the posts above. People want to come at me first on my own post, talk shit about my company tag because they have literally nothing else to go on, and then tell me not to talk shit. No, fuck you. I won't update my tag cause idgaf about your opinion.

Square, Lyft, Dropbox? LOL. What is this a wish list of higher TCs? If that’s the case then Twitter can beat your number 1 and SAP shouldn’t even be on this list. Prestige wise I will rate Microsoft and Amazon at number 1 - going by 15 years in tech, I can tell big companies and higher technical bar matters. The tech bar at FAANG is well established so no question I will hire person from the same bucket (FAANG).

@🍪cutter — the bar at Amazon is very low. It was by far the lowest out of the dozen or so places I interviewed in the fall. This is consistent with the general opinion on Blind as well.

Please don’t try to pat yourself on the back by grouping yourself in with the rest of “FAANG”. Amazon will always pay lower than other large tech companies so hotshots with options have to really love Amazon in particular to purposefully take lower TC. I’m willing to bet that is the exception, not the rule.

My “hunch” is that you got rejected by Amazon and you got burnt. No one will have such a hatred against one company unless you have been pissed away. AWS is indeed an undisputed leader in Cloud infra and offerings - I don’t have to pat on my back to prove this. This is for a reason and not because AWS hires “incompetent” engineers which are below the bar of Uber. Nothing against Uber but your statement is utter BS - I can bet this on my experience as dev/ hiring manager in Google for 8 years of my career. AWS is as a matter of fact better when it comes to deploying technologies and converting risky bets into industry defining success stories.

Uber leadership would disagree with your sentiment of Amazon. Secondly, we have over 600k+ employees so there are bound to be edge cases; we mitigate that by constantly pruning our workforce. So occasional subpar candidate may get in but I can guarantee you they won’t last. Hence over a certain horizon quality of talent at Amazon always grows higher and more competitive.

Well it's also based on growth opportunities too. I have few folks at Microsoft Seattle just doing the same kind of work and plus it seems their hiring bar went a little low recently. On the other hand, Amazon's Ads and Aws hiring bar is rising and folks seems to solve complex challenging problems out there with good total TC.

Lol. I got an offer from both Amazon and an Amazon subsidiary. Not only were the interviews the easiest, but the offers were the lowest.

I don’t have any hatred for Amazon, but just because you guys have solid products and operate at a large scale does not mean that the perks, pay, and interview difficulty aren’t consistently reported to be (relatively) low compared to other top tech companies.

The point is, if Amazon is clamoring for people and is the easiest to get hired into out of a list of 10 companies, then it’s the least prestigious out of that list.

Does that mean it isn’t prestigious AT ALL and doesn’t beat MOST companies? No. Does that mean they don’t do good work? No. Does that mean it’s not prestigious relative to other top companies? Yes.

I’m also AI at MS, and I would bet money FAIR researchers are having no problem finding employment elsewhere when/if they decide to move on. Yes MS is winning the PR battle for now, but let’s not ignore the fact that Microsoft intends to use computer vision to aide the U.S. war machine.

The companies leading in charge of AI are MS & Google, the only two companies with Quantum research.

Also “war machine”?? What??? That research has been going on for a while through Raytheon, DOD through academia etc. By the time industry gets involved in any govt plans, the project has already been long researched on the academic side, NSF hello!!

Also what??? You realize top level researchers are at every major industry research department. Good lord, you’re obviously not a PhD with a statement like that.

I like how seriously people take these lists. As long as you’re happy where you are, none of this matters. None of the people on here are really responsible for the reason why X company has a certain reputation or market presence.

@tech.ladki Or maybe people value different things and not everything is based on "smartness"? I work at Southwest because I love to travel and last I checked Google doesn't let me travel all over the world, for fun, for free lol no offense but you kinda sound like a new college grad.

There's a reason I said probably.On average, more Southwest employees would want to work at Google than the other way around.And this is just my guess that more Google employees would be able to clear Southwest interviews than the converse.

As a result, people, especially recruiters, look on you more favorably if you work at Google than Southwest.Unless you are an SJW, I'm sure you understand cohort characterstics

Google and Amazon recruiters must not have gotten the memo then...I should tell my coworkers too. They keep reaching out to us 😂

yea our interviews are definitely easier than Google's, but at the same time, it's actually really hard to get in at Southwest just due to the sheer popularity of our brand and culture. There's a reason we're consistently ranked in the Top 10 of any best places to work list alongside Google. I cannot unfortunately say that about Microsoft.

@SouthwestWhat you can or cannot say about Microsoft is completely irrelevant to this thread. Are you seriously suggesting that a SWE at Southwest would be viewed as favorably as a swe at Google by the tech industry? I can assure you, you'd get many many more messages because of the industry reputation of Google engineers, and the Google hiring bar.If you want to work at Southwest you're free to do so, but unless you are new to blind your know that for most people in the tech industry hold a much higher regard for those who work so FANG

It’s kind of pathetic how some of you guy’s world rests upon where you work. It’s almost like you have nothing more going for you than your job. It’s your only source of validation. It’s really sad and pathetic on many fronts. And yes, I’ve been in talks with Amazon and Google recruiters before someone tries to rag on my current company.

Google is falling to level 1 with their offers. Apple is maybe a 1 but is stalling as of late with innovation and although Square, Lyft and Dropbox are all solid names, there is absolutely no way their prestige is higher than Amazon or even Salesforce or Microsoft.

Apple Pay sucks. From my experience, Initial grant is nowhere close to even Amazon. Refreshers nowhere next to Facebook (dunno about Amazon since I have not worked there) and almost no chance of promo to level 5. But contrary to popular belief, WLB is awesome

@facebook I thought Apple is famous for high refreshers? 60% to 100% base on year 1 is what I heard.And the initial apple grant is better recently. I just accepted an Apple offer with 400k rsu for level 4.

I love all the hate. And people ask why we think people are jealous or why we think we’re above others. It’s because some people here react so negatively when someone says something nice about us. Haters gonna hate.

This isn’t surprising in regards to Glassdoor. In general, our internal culture is strong and people love working here. We offer the best in industry when it comes to comp, benefits and perks. We hire the best. And despite the haters b+tching about some media spin, people internally know what we actually do, how we work and the truth. If that makes you mad, send me your tears and anger.

I myself have been here for quite some time and know our developer platforms well. The media spin, particularly by NYTimes, is amazingly biased. And I’m one who loved and respected NYT before.

As an Indian, I knew you'll not admit your problems but simply finger point.There is a need for India filter for many reasons 1. Content is very wierd especially when it comes to relationships/marriages. Indians are very supetficial here and seem to care more about lineage and money2. Poorly phrased questions and comments3. Content not relevant to rest of the blind usersAnd please, Indians are way more racist than Trump. You have no moral rights to whine about racism

1. I have no idea why u keep complaining about relationships in a tech forum.. did something happen? is this your outlet?.. remember time heals.2. Very valid reason for hate3. I am not representing India, I am representing 'me' and all of your comments show bias and anger towards a race, not this post or me.I am pretty sure you are a Indian, I don't know what messed you up.. family?, boyfriend?, whatever the reason the hate is evident.I hope Trump kicks you back to India.

Lol no, nothing at all. Just fun to see how some people are so insecure that they're triggered by the slightest criticism of India. But considering the number of people who agreed with me, there has to be some truth to it 😊

1. I meant Indians post very wierd questions about relationships and marriage. I like I discovered my wife likes to spend more blah blah. Noone else posts such dumb questions.3. I don't care for appeasing any race. And I've been bitterly critical of whites and blacks too. Most Indians don't notice it, and whine of bias every time I criticize India.

All our employees are at will just like other companies. If you can’t handle the heat, get out of the kitchen - is the mentality we hold to. We don’t have time for resters and vesters, we are busy solving problems at a scale that has been never attempted.

Lol, non-AWS employee here. My team is more rest-and-vest country club than the sweat shop everyone here likes to talk about. The work culture is highly dependent on your leadership. If your management chain sets very aggressive deadlines and focuses on getting results out at all costs, then you’ll definitely have a bad time at Amazon.

Why would prestige be based on perks or pay? Pay and perks isn't what motivates most engineers. I work on really cool stuff at MSFT and make good money doing it. I'm a lot happier here than I was at Google. Yeah, I could make $50k more at FB, but what am I going to do with an extra $50k? I'd just save it anyway. The marginal utility of more money for me is very low.

Why is Bloomberg so low? It's definitely a notch above where it is and is the only finance related company on here. Sure citadel, TwoSigma are higher but they are a tiny fraction of the size. Also, BBG is the only one that is genuine strides as far in terms of helping the community and it's something deep in the company values.

Snacks, insurance, catered/comped meals if working late (in NYC), NJ offices have onsite food for 2-3 meals. Good pay, though not highest but it's all cash. Strong performers in the right organization can be rewarded but it's almost always better to jump although this is not unique to BBG. Chill work environment. Hiring bar and quality of people is all over the place but there are plenty of smart people.

Did I mention the $5-$10k company charity match, you can contribute by donating dollars or time. Tons of perks at many museums and such (e.g. nearly free admission)

The players are exactly who I hated when I talked with your company. The people I talked with there were just so mind numbing and clearly didn’t care about *anything* that mattered. They also just weren’t that smart. It was frankly surprising. Like what the hell? I thought Facebook was supposed to have good engineering talent?

We “suck” because we don’t have to pay as much blood money so our comp packages tend to be lower. (Our refreshes are what actually helps us retain the people we think are good, we just don’t have to offer people seven figure packages to get them in the door like y’all do.) People come to my workplace because they want to do something here and they give a damn. If you’re a mercenary or think this shit is a “game” and say things like “Don’t hate the player” in response to criticism you mostly work elsewhere and I am so, so glad I don’t have to deal with y’all in my workplace.

Facebook is *only* highly regarded because of comp. Y’all write a fucking website and couldn’t build a real product to save your lives. (You’ll see when you launch the nonsense that you’re working on and it falls flat. Buying other companies won’t save you.)

You got lucky as a slave. People joining Amazon as new slaves these days wont have much to look forward to, except being so stressed they jump out of buildings. Funny how you can predict the future, in addition to being a good slave. We shall see. Even if I lose 50% of my stock, I'll still be better off than having stayed at Google

Prestige is not really related to TC. TC is mostly related to cash flow; so highly prestigious companies with low cash flow pay poorly, and boring as shit companies with huge cash flow can pay very well.

Can you explain to my why the iOS app has taken such a massive performance hit over the last 1-2 years? It freezes constantly, crashes all the time, is very laggy, it takes 4 seconds to load a chat every time I select one, and 7 seconds to load match cards on launch. This is why I imagine it wouldn’t be a great place to work at least for iOS. Sounds like it’s all rapid feature development and no addressing tech debt.

@void I can't explain and definitely can't say that you're not onto something. If the latter is the case, maybe what we need are strong leaders that are willing to step in and address this if people aren't talking about it. I'm trying to get more of my colleagues on here that can weigh in.

@FB I dunno, only 1 of the 5 or 6 referrals I’ve submitted ended in a successful offer. It’s mostly but not always hard to get through our interviews, we’re still small enough that things vary a lot from one team to another.