I am hoping someone on the forum can really help me out with this question; as communication with Cartier USA has been less than satisfactory. My friend is looking to purchase a Santos 100 XL, all gold (either rose or yellow gold), and his particular request is for a full gold bracelet that goes with the Santos 100. I do not believe Cartier ever made a model with full gold bracelet. So I inquired Cartier with this information. However, all they can give me (4 times) was that since that is not a current model, they cannot provide any further information.

Does anyone know if such a model with full gold bracelet exists? If so, does anyone happen to know the reference model?
If such model does not exist, can anyone provide also the reference or model number for either of the gold models with leather strap?

Any help or insights on this is greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance.

Hi Woody,
I don't have any more info than Cartier would (and probably less), but it does appear that there was a special order version of the 18ky 2657 (technical reference) that had an 18ky bracelet, released in 2005. The commercial reference of this version was W200710K. Just to clarify, the 2657 was classified as an LM size, not XL. The LM strap width at the case is 23mm, to give you an idea of relative size.

A quick search of the reference did not yield too much of a result. I think even if I can locate it for him, it would take quite a bit of resources to find it. Perhaps I'll check for a leather band version for him instead.

Do you happen to know the actual reference number for the XL in gold finish? Whenever I go to a shopping site, it seemed like there's quite a bit of variations in references, and I would never know if it is actually a XL version. Sometimes I wonder if even the seller know that they have a XL version vs the regular size.

I don't have access to all info on the jewelry/complication timepieces, which outside of the Santos 100 Chronograph model (tech. ref. 2741, commercial ref. W20096Y1, only on strap I think) are the only ones technically termed "XL", *to my knowledge*. These would include such models as the Santos 100 Mysterieuse, Tourbillon, Skeleton, and Triple, but there could be more.

As far as the more common time-only pieces you'd see for sale, I'd say those are either the LM or MM models. Here's a way to tell based on strap size between the lugs, which some vendors may be kind enough to provide:

I don't have access to all info on the jewelry/complication timepieces, which outside of the Santos 100 Chronograph model (tech. ref. 2741, commercial ref. W20096Y1, only on strap I think) are the only ones technically termed "XL", *to my knowledge*. These would include such models as the Santos 100 Mysterieuse, Tourbillon, Skeleton, and Triple, but there could be more.

As far as the more common time-only pieces you'd see for sale, I'd say those are either the LM or MM models. Here's a way to tell based on strap size between the lugs, which some vendors may be kind enough to provide:

XL: 24.5mm

LM: 23mm

MM: 20mm

Thanks again! I did find the reference number of the gold Santos 100 XL with leather band. Have a good weekend.