As for the old chestnut of ‘abortion due to rape,’ while I do truly sympathise with victims of such a crime as rape I am nevertheless obliged to point out that St. Ninian was the product of rape. Imagine the loss to the world if he had been aborted.

St. Ninian - what about Fred Burns? Oh! What a wealth of personality the universe would have to suffer without his inimmitable presence. The earth will surely stop spinning when we lose . . . uh, is Freddy still with us?

Who the fuck gives a shit? Pfffftt take all the saints, and the aints, too.

As for the old chestnut of 'horrible trauma due to rape', while I do truly sympathise with victims of such a crime as rape I am nevertheless obliged to point out that St. Ninian was the product of rape. Imagine the loss to the world if his mother hadn't been raped.

I never really understood the "It's only ok to get an abortion if you're raped" argument. You either believe the foetus is a person or you don't. If you think a foetus is a child then by that logic it's ok to kill a rape-child. If you don't think the foetus is a child then you should be able to get an abortion rape or not.

Pushing for something to be an option does not mean pushing for it to be the norm. We want women to have the OPTION of aborting a child that is a product of rape. Ultimately, the choice is up to the woman. I don't think you people get this; most of us don't like abortion any more than you do. People don't hate babies. It's just not something that happens.

Saint Ninian (lifetime uncertain) is a Christian saint first mentioned in the eighth century as being an early missionary among the Pictish peoples of what is now Scotland. For this reason he is known as the Apostle to the Southern Picts, and there are numerous dedications to him in those parts of Scotland with a Pictish heritage, throughout the Scottish Lowlands, and in parts of Northern England with a Northumbrian heritage. In Scotland, Ninian is also known as Ringan, and as Trynnian in Northern England.
Ninian's major shrine was at Whithorn in Galloway, where he is associated with the Candida Casa (Latin for 'White House'). Nothing is known about his teachings, and there is no unchallenged authority for information about his life.

One word is enough to destroy the bloody argument you are trying to make. Even God can't do nothing against abillity to choose, and that is your teology, not mine. So, why would you take away something even god doesn't want to be taken?