this is not good news... remember when Clinton came in office they attacked the world trace center, when bush come in the office there was 9/11, they can see the US is in a weak economic position right and getting in distress and since there will be a transition taking place in Washington this is the perfect time to make some sort of attack, although the fact they have come out and warm us about it is good news b/c now everyone in the government will be more aware and should be more alert.
hope for the best!

So much I would like to comment about, but all I will add is, to my recollection, the cia trained and funded the mujahideen, groups of normal people, to fight for their freedom against the soviets after the afghan government at the time got in bed with the russians. And it may have halted the spread of communism, to some extent, if not altogether, but thats an argument for another time.

Bin Laden has openly and actively promoted, funded, and encouraged the killing of american men, women and children, along with the men, women and children of any of their allies.

You're telling me the U.S. didn't train bin laden to fight the Russians in Afghanistan? The only reason Al Quaeda exist is because we funded their creation.

Bin Laden hasn't even been indicted for the Sept. 11th attacks by the FBI.

You haven't learned a damn thing about the United States involvement in foreign affairs in the past 5-8 years.

Maybe you missed the part I bolded, where you tried to tell us the word Al Qaeda means nothing in Arabic.
Also please don't assume you know more than me just because you've watched Charlie Wilson's War. I have a degree in Political Science and Middle Eastern Studies with a minor in Arabic almost complete. Thanks.

Maybe you missed the part I bolded, where you tried to tell us the word Al Qaeda means nothing in Arabic.
Also please don't assume you know more than me just because you've watched Charlie Wilson's War. I have a degree in Political Science and Middle Eastern Studies with a minor in Arabic almost complete. Thanks.

You studied political science in the United States and Middle Easter Studies in the United States. It's like having Americans teach you about how we fairly we treated the native Americans. It's pointless because you learned American Political Science. In most poli-sci classes they still teach that GW made mistakes about Iraq instead of actually teaching it was a fraud.

I have a degree in a social science and much of the knowledge I have gained did not come from any form of American Media. You're entire degree is a product of U.S. propaganda.

Poli Sci is a joke of a major because it only perpetuates the same ideologies that are embedded in the same stupid American minds continuously. I'm sure you also believe that Iraq had WMD's as well. People in the United States still believe that there are two different political parties yet fail to realize they are all members of the CFR and other organizations.

The world has a bigger view than what is being taught to people in a class room.

At any rate. Yes al quaeda has no true meaning. Even if it means the BASE. The entire organization is a phantom threat. Even at that, most terrorism is a response to US foreign affairs policy in the Middle East and to the unyeilding support given to Israelis for their occupation.

Osama can make videos all day long saying he is going to attack the US and all this is going to do is allow a bunch of neo-cons to right more laws to obstruct our civil liberties. 9-11 has done nothing but cause the American people to give up more civil liberties and our government and military have more power now than ever before to control the public.

You studied political science in the United States and Middle Easter Studies in the United States. It's like having Americans teach you about how we fairly we treated the native Americans. It's pointless because you learned American Political Science. In most poli-sci classes they still teach that GW made mistakes about Iraq instead of actually teaching it was a fraud.

I have a degree in a social science and much of the knowledge I have gained did not come from any form of American Media. You're entire degree is a product of U.S. propaganda.

Poli Sci is a joke of a major because it only perpetuates the same ideologies that are embedded in the same stupid American minds continuously. I'm sure you also believe that Iraq had WMD's as well. People in the United States still believe that there are two different political parties yet fail to realize they are all members of the CFR and other organizations.

The world has a bigger view than what is being taught to people in a class room.

At any rate. Yes al quaeda has no true meaning. Even if it means the BASE. The entire organization is a phantom threat. Even at that, most terrorism is a response to US foreign affairs policy in the Middle East and to the unyeilding support given to Israelis for their occupation.

Osama can make videos all day long saying he is going to attack the US and all this is going to do is allow a bunch of neo-cons to right more laws to obstruct our civil liberties. 9-11 has done nothing but cause the American people to give up more civil liberties and our government and military have more power now than ever before to control the public.

Wow. You seem to know all about me huh. Who do you think taught me Arabic? A white American? Who do you think was the professor in the Middle East and Islam classes I've taken? Americans? HA.

Do you even know that I am American? I could live and study at King Saud University in Riyadh for all you know.

Oh, and yes I do know there were and are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. How do I know, you ask? Because the United States has sold WMD to Iraq in the past and 550 tons of yellow uranium cake was very recently in Iraq as documented by the IAEA, UN and every major media outlet in the world. Thousands of tons of cake and other materials are still in Iraq. If you search online you will find documented encounters of intact vials of Ricin and mustard gas also.

With every post you have made in this thread, you have lost credibility. Everything you post from now on is a waste of time.

PS- Since you still refuse to believe that the word Al Qaeda means something, you should refer to the online video where Abdelmalek Droudkal explains the meaning behind it as well as the meaning behind the name of his own organization.

It's no different then the millions dead in Iraq because of the wars and UN sanctions we imposed.

The US has done it's share of massacre around the world on a much larger scale than the terrorist have.

You will get no argument from me that the US government and the UN have their share of travesties to answer for, however, the open, direct, blatant, promoted, encouraged, probably arranged, funded and orchestrated attacks directly against women and children is an absolute sign of cowardice.

As a matter of fact, I dont even know why Im posting this, as in my eyes, any terrorist is a coward, planting bombs to kill random people, firing rockets into crowded city buildings from a mile away, attacking public places where innocents gather, sneaking around in the shadows, hiding in caves, planning to hurt those who cant defend themselves. A real man meets his enemy face to face, and doesnt cower in the shadows.

his has nothing to do with this poor servant of God, nor with the al Qaeda organization. We are the children of an Islamic nation whose leader is Mohammed.

We have one religion, one God, one book, one prophet, one nation. Our book teaches us to be brothers of a faith. All the Muslims are brothers. The name "al Qaeda" was established a long time ago by mere chance. The late Abu Ebeida El-Banashiri established the training camps for our mujahedeen against Russia's terrorism. We used to call the training camp al Qaeda as a base of our operations. And the name stayed. We speak about the conscience of the nation; we are the sons of the nation. We brothers in Islam from the Middle East, Philippines, Malaysia, India, Pakistan and as far as Mauritania.

..seriously though, politics aside (which translates only into "motive") , every time a group goes running around with bombs strapped to their bodies blowing up every day people suicide-style, I thing "what have you actually accomplished!?"
What a pus*y a**and ineffective way to get a message accross. Especially when you have to publicly claim responsibility AND inform of the message you tried to send. Apparently you can't tell who blew up what anymore and for what reason.
The gullibility of the people that do the bombiong; I'm not sure weather to feel sorry for them because they were able to be talked into believing it would make a difference.
I try not to get political, and I have no degrees in poly-sci, and have never been to a country where this goes on as a day-to-day occurrence, but I do understand blowing some **** up becasue blowing it up halted a process: you know, like I'm mad at the gov so I'll blow up a GOV building..

haha, well the boys in this thread are obviously way more educated than me, i cant argue that. But I thought all the political views etc aside, I'd just say what were all thinking. They suck balls. I wish America would rock into the middle east an farken level the whole place. A simple solution yet so attractive Get a big black dog up ya Bin Laden and all your Homo mates.:****you:

haha, well the boys in this thread are obviously way more educated than me, i cant argue that. But I thought all the political views etc aside, I'd just say what were all thinking. They suck balls. I wish America would rock into the middle east an farken level the whole place. A simple solution yet so attractive Get a big black dog up ya Bin Laden and all your Homo mates.:****you:

I hear ya man. I gave up on trying to understand the complexities of politics weeks ago! I can appreciate your simplified approach, I think I'll adopt that formula for myself now too. Hey, just get to the point right?!

Wow. You seem to know all about me huh. Who do you think taught me Arabic? A white American? Who do you think was the professor in the Middle East and Islam classes I've taken? Americans? HA.

Do you even know that I am American? I could live and study at King Saud University in Riyadh for all you know.

Oh, and yes I do know there were and are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. How do I know, you ask? Because the United States has sold WMD to Iraq in the past and 550 tons of yellow uranium cake was very recently in Iraq as documented by the IAEA, UN and every major media outlet in the world. Thousands of tons of cake and other materials are still in Iraq. If you search online you will find documented encounters of intact vials of Ricin and mustard gas also.

With every post you have made in this thread, you have lost credibility. Everything you post from now on is a waste of time.

PS- Since you still refuse to believe that the word Al Qaeda means something, you should refer to the online video where Abdelmalek Droudkal explains the meaning behind it as well as the meaning behind the name of his own organization.

Mustard gas was found in shells. As far as I know the current status is that no WMD's were "officially" claimed in Iraq. I am well aware the US sold them chemical weapons because that is what they used to gas the kurds and Iranians. As for the 550 tons of yellow cake, it was found. Then it was sent to canada and does not constitute a WMD because it is not potent enough to be used in a dirty bomb. The UN had an eye on the Yellow cake so it was never hidden.

My main point is, much of what is learned through college is often tainted by the politics of the region and the views of the people. In the US we will never learn of the attrocities done by us to other country or the hypocrisy in our foreign policy.

Al Queda can mean whatever, my point is only that it is a shadow threat. It isn't real, it's only there to scare Americans.

Al Queda is a blanket statement for all terrorists in my opinion. I think that we need to find Osama Bin Laden and Al-Zawari, and kill the SOB's already. There is no excuse as to why they are still alive. We would likely have to go into Pakistan to do it, and I think we should.

Mustard gas was found in shells. As far as I know the current status is that no WMD's were "officially" claimed in Iraq. I am well aware the US sold them chemical weapons because that is what they used to gas the kurds and Iranians. As for the 550 tons of yellow cake, it was found. Then it was sent to canada and does not constitute a WMD because it is not potent enough to be used in a dirty bomb. The UN had an eye on the Yellow cake so it was never hidden.

My main point is, much of what is learned through college is often tainted by the politics of the region and the views of the people. In the US we will never learn of the attrocities done by us to other country or the hypocrisy in our foreign policy.

Al Queda can mean whatever, my point is only that it is a shadow threat. It isn't real, it's only there to scare Americans.

Dudes got a good point, but doesnt change my simple/effective solution. Level the entire farken middle east and everyone will be better off.
Where's the nuke button? Push it america, push it!! why are these pieces of **** still drawing breath?

Dudes got a good point, but doesnt change my simple/effective solution. Level the entire farken middle east and everyone will be better off.
Where's the nuke button? Push it america, push it!! why are these pieces of **** still drawing breath?

Oh man, this guy! This has got to be Chad reincarnate. Where you been man?!