"She (Ferguson) started emailing me and at one point asked what did I think of her doing a celebrity chef show.

I said, 'That's not going to help you. How are you going to rehabilitate yourself on a celebrity chef show? You should be working on yourself.'

We had a real moment of connection, watching the tape of her trying to get £500,000 (for access to Prince Andrew). She said she didn't want to go into bankruptcy. I said, 'But when you look at that tape don't you see a morally bankrupted person? The one thing you were trying to avoid, you already are.' She said, 'I never thought of it that way.' I remember the last thing I said to her when I left that interview: 'Don't let me see you on Dancing With The Stars.'"