Talks between House Speaker John Boehner and President Barack Obama over the government shutdown and looming debt limit deadline have hit a brick wall.

Boehner relayed the news to his Republican caucus during a Saturday morning meeting after a night of work where little progress was made. Republican Rep. Paul Labrador of Idaho emerged from the meeting, telling CNN that "the President rejected our deal."

The standstill has decreased the possibility that the House would vote to reopen the government this weekend and while leadership would remain in Washington to work on a proposal, rank-and-file members might return to their districts until Monday afternoon.

“Some conservatives — like tea party favorite Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas — left the meeting upset at Obama for continuing to insist the government must reopen and the debt ceiling must be increased before he would take part in full-fledged negotiations on deficit reduction.”

Obama wants the debt crisis for two reasons: First it will be used to pillory the Republicans as the cause...the MSM is salivating at the prospect as are Obama thugs. Second, true to Alinsky’s rules, Obama will use the crisis to seize more power...likely by unilaterally and unconstitutionally raising spending limits himself and making Congress irrelevant for any spending limits. With no spending restraints and an impotent Congress Obama is on his way to becoming dictator.

The dumbass republicans in Washington just don't get it. The left uses Alinski tactics to get what they want. The republicans should know that by now.

Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy THINKS you have."

The American people hate obomacare. They hate the national debt. They hate being used as slaves so the democrat base doesn't have to get out of bed in the morning to go to their own jobs. Instead of listing to the tax slaves - those forced to pay for it all - the republicans think the lazy do nothings have all the power. They don't. The suffering middle class has all the power, and together all the votes and the funding. Speak for them (support the Tea Party) - the tax slaves - and the republicans could hold power for generations.

If they were to speak up for those who are being abused by an over bloated and oppressive government - the working people - the nation would rally by their side.

Pl;ease understand that if we don’t raise HELL the senate is going to send a total defeat to the house and Boehner will allow a discharge petition and allow 20 rinos to vote with 200 Dems to cram this down on us.We must stop Boehner from changing the current resolution that only he can bring any bill for a vote. If he waives that we are cooked. Peter King the RINO king has folded into a democrat. There are others. STOP THIS DISASTER FOR OUR COUNTRY.

they are trying to surrender but zero’s arrogance and hubris won’t accept it, he demands more.

If zero continues to hold out for total surrender, we may get to the debt ceiling after all, and then we get a balanced budget and republicans win after all, even if the beltway leadership is trying to throw the game

Just a thought, Obama says he won't “negotiate with a gun to (his) head” -— What if the “trigger” is already pulled? What if Congress allows the deadlines to pass? Does that not change the dynamics a bit?

I agree!!! Pubbies...you better darn realize you hold the upper hand!!! Forget Obama, his Democrat ilk and his Obamabot media and their rigged polls....they lie....alll the time!!! Pubbies stick it to Obama, and watch him cave as you stay strong!!! Flush your whimp RINO senators down into the cesspool of traitors to American. Hang tough!!! Believe me....the American people stand with you!!!

The people screaming the loudest about the shutdown seem to be the furloughed federal employees. Saw one chippy on tv whining that while she will eventually be paid, she has a mortgage to pay, so she needs her check NOW! Good Grief, Woman! Don't you have some money saved for such emergencies? Guess not.

Seems to be a typical federal mindset. Spend, spend, spend and don't bother saving because there will always be money coming in.

Alas, these idiots are the ones who make the news. Military, survivors, vets, people whose livelihood depends on federal sites — they aren't important. The king doesn't care about them.

Only because most the GOP is a pretend opposition party, otherwise they might be more confrontational with the media. The media wants sound bites anyway, the GOP could start provoking with them easily with short, universally parroted statements.

The time to disrupt and start larger civil disobedience actions is now. Get an Obama mask for Halloween, they’ll be good for later demonstrations and effigies.

Obama wants the debt crisis for two reasons: First it will be used to pillory the Republicans as the cause...the MSM is salivating at the prospect as are Obama thugs. Second, true to Alinskys rules, Obama will use the crisis to seize more power...likely by unilaterally and unconstitutionally raising spending limits himself and making Congress irrelevant for any spending limits. With no spending restraints and an impotent Congress Obama is on his way to becoming dictator.

"The issue is never the issue. The issue is the revolution."

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posted on 10/12/2013 9:01:48 AM PDT
by Slings and Arrows
(You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)

The interesting ingredient in all this is that ... the government has been shut down for 12 days and there is no devastation ... no one really cares. Before it happened there was all this worry and concern and then .. nothing after it happened. Won’t some member of Congress point this out? we don’t need all this government ... therefore we CAN cut it and reduce it

It’s time for the Republicans to start playing hardball — make sure to point out to the uninformed public that they went out of their way to compromise but Obama is the one who rejected every deal, “it’s his deal or the highway” and there supposed to be three co-equal branches of the government, not one dictator.

People would get it, they just need to have it explained to them clearly.

They are just marking time so that they can retire with their fat pensions, fat health care, their fat, personal political war-chests and live happily ever after in the land they betrayed.

Ever notice how these people go to Washington as paupers and retire as multimillionaires? How do they do that on such a low income? To them, those in Washington, It's not about saving the tax slaves. To the elite, we're nothing but their own personal beasts of burden. It's about them, their power, and their luxuries. The democrats don't bother hiding it. That's why they never get called on it. They flaunt their luxuries. The republicans are always getting into trouble, because they have to try to hide their lust for power and money, and like today the truth occasionally sneaks out.

Republicans will cave. It's the only way they can scam their millions to retire on.

So, keep working suckers. The politicians from both parties want more of your money. They've got their private islands to pay for.

“And the real question is why arent the Republicans pointing this out to the American people at every chance they get, instead of staying silent”

Answer: because the GOP wanted it that way. They fought weakly for the Ryan budget, and barely peeped about the Penny plan or the Tea Party budget (both of which seriously cut spending). The GOP are 95% PROGRESSIVES.

Cruz, Paul, Lee, Gohmert, Amash, et al., are anomalies in this party.

You are right that most don’t know we’re under a CR. Those who do now think its regular order. The fundamental transformation is here.

Obama will fight to the death of this nation if that is what it will take to pass his "signature achievement" socialized medicine...... for a free nation with a semi democratic/republic government....Obama is a Socialist and has great disdain for the America he supposedly serves.

No Funding for Obamacare....it is a waste of money now and will only become worse with corruption and waste.

"Conservative Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah said Obama called the medical device tax a "legitimate concern" that can be addressed because it wasn't part of the core Obamacare program."

I'm really glad to see we're back in the business of bailing out the Dems on vulnerable issues... If it's something like the medical device tax that Dems fear because they don't want to have to defend it in 2014, then we should bend over backwards to help them. If it's something we loathe (like the contraception/abortifacient mandate, for example), we shouldn't even mention it...

That way we'll get an even worse Obamacare law... and the Dems will have a much easier time of retaining the Senate in 2014. Go get 'em Stupid Party!

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posted on 10/12/2013 9:12:06 AM PDT
by Qbert
("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)

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