OK, gotta share where I stuffed up massively today so I can get it of my chest and maybe save others similar pain...

so, my first run of 7 egay US auctions complete to the value of about $1400, 2nd bid offers to the tune of $1800 sent, cost to me for product =0. I go to log into paypal, having fired up the new dvd burner, to check the first payment went in - yep it's there - great. Decide to make a little purchase and the big exclamation mark appears - account on hold pending the submitting of a few more details please, like how about a copy of your utility bill. Well, fuck me if that aint so easy cause the friggin' account is 'supposedly' in India and ere I am Down Under! Furthermore it only just occurred to me after a really, long, shit day, that Gaypal and Egay are the same fuckin beast and so the COMPLETE and UTTER discrepency between my fictional Florida Egay account and my 'fictional' Indian Gaypal account would have stood out like fuckin DOGS BALLS!!!!!!! What the hell was I thinkin.....???? So now about 22 buyers are sittin there scratchin their heads wondering why they can't send me any money and where the hell did I disappear to? And am I goin anywhere but in the other direction as far away from that hot fraudulent fuckin potato as fast as my delete button can wipe accounts? no fckn way.

Moral of the story....if ya gonna bend the truth, keep the bend straight...

If anyone with more brains and/or experience would care to throw in their two cents worth as to method or technique for avoiding such calamities in the future, you know, I would really like that a lot....

OK, gotta share where I stuffed up massively today so I can get it of my chest and maybe save others similar pain...

so, my first run of 7 egay US auctions complete to the value of about $1400, 2nd bid offers to the tune of $1800 sent, cost to me for product =0. I go to log into paypal, having fired up the new dvd burner, to check the first payment went in - yep it's there - great. Decide to make a little purchase and the big exclamation mark appears - account on hold pending the submitting of a few more details please, like how about a copy of your utility bill. Well, fuck me if that aint so easy cause the friggin' account is 'supposedly' in India and ere I am Down Under! Furthermore it only just occurred to me after a really, long, shit day, that Gaypal and Egay are the same fuckin beast and so the COMPLETE and UTTER discrepency between my fictional Florida Egay account and my 'fictional' Indian Gaypal account would have stood out like fuckin DOGS BALLS!!!!!!! What the hell was I thinkin.....???? So now about 22 buyers are sittin there scratchin their heads wondering why they can't send me any money and where the hell did I disappear to? And am I goin anywhere but in the other direction as far away from that hot fraudulent fuckin potato as fast as my delete button can wipe accounts? no fckn way.

Moral of the story....if ya gonna bend the truth, keep the bend straight...

If anyone with more brains and/or experience would care to throw in their two cents worth as to method or technique for avoiding such calamities in the future, you know, I would really like that a lot....

aye, there's truth in that brother! They are all very precarious. And yet multiple accounting is so much a part of the core of blackhating. I mean if one wants to spread the load from cookie stuffing E*PN over say 5 or 10 accounts one needs 5 or 10 pay*pals to receive payouts into, right? There's gotta be a workable solution if one gets the details right....

Did you create your own seller and pypal accounts or did you buy the pypl and set up the egay yourself? If you bought them, was it from a member here? I only ask because if you buy the accounts from a vendor then they should already be tested and verified. They should also match each other. At least I would hope so. Any details you can provide concerning the creation of these accounts would help as I am on the verge of setting up multiple seller and pypal accounts for stuffing purposes.

aye, there's truth in that brother! They are all very precarious. And yet multiple accounting is so much a part of the core of blackhating. I mean if one wants to spread the load from cookie stuffing E*PN over say 5 or 10 accounts one needs 5 or 10 pay*pals to receive payouts into, right? There's gotta be a workable solution if one gets the details right....

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Yeah, would like to know the workable solution too. Anyone care to share?

OK Guys, for the record. These were not accounts I bought. Nor used for the purpose of faking auctions for stuffing. It was a PP account i had setup about 2 months ago for another purpose that didn't pan out. I verified with a bought vcc and I think it would have been fine had I not thoughtlessly linked it with an EB account I set up myself, even though the name, address etc details for each account was totally different. Hell, the EB was a US account, fake details, verified with vcc, phone verified with a phone forwarding service. The PP account was faked in India. I chose India at the time because for US, Canada, Australia or UK EB accounts, as far as I am aware, a VCC verification is not enough, one needs to designate a proper bank account to be linked for withdrawals and maybe even full account functionality. If I am wrong on this someone correct me. At the time I setup the paypal I had no need to link it with an EB account - hence India. A problem as I see it is that if PP or EB are at all suspicious they can put your account on hold and request some more information such as ID or a utility bill. If the account is 'fake' these can be hard to generate, depending how far down the path of fraud one wants to travel. In my case they requested an Indian utility bill for my registered address. That went in my too hard basket, also for the reason that I still had to get the money out of that account somehow which meant buying products at one of my own sites, which activity I'm not prepared to do if I feel I'm being watched. So I chose to drop it.

So, in summation, I think it depends in what country one is trying to setup these accounts.
1 Details have to match - completely.
2 Some countries, Aus and US EB for sure will want to do an automated phone check as you signup - be prepared for that and have a service setup to forward to your home or mobile.
3 Someone more experienced than I needs to clarify the deal with linking an actual bank account with your PP, or at least loaning you an account for the purpose, if your attempting to set this up in the big 4 or 5 western english speaking countries.
4 Start with small transactions.
5 Get your IP situation sorted out well. I did all this on dedicated private VPN servers, to all extents and purposes - untraceable. Don't dick around with public proxies or anything that is or has been 'shared'

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