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I was wondering how Marvel 1602 was? I've had my eye on it, and it seems like a cool concept, but between the main-series and the spin-off minis, I'm not sure if it's worth buying all those books or not. What do you guys think? Yay or nay?

Unfortunately, I cannot answer you question - but I have one of my own.

How are the various Before Watchmen titles? Any insight would be appreciated.

TIA!

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This is the thread to ask about certain books or storylines and gauge people's opinions on them.

I was wondering how Marvel 1602 was? I've had my eye on it, and it seems like a cool concept, but between the main-series and the spin-off minis, I'm not sure if it's worth buying all those books or not. What do you guys think? Yay or nay?

I say go for it! It was a decent story (at least better than I expected) and you can get them all pretty cheap.

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This is the thread to ask about certain books or storylines and gauge people's opinions on them.

I was wondering how Marvel 1602 was? I've had my eye on it, and it seems like a cool concept, but between the main-series and the spin-off minis, I'm not sure if it's worth buying all those books or not. What do you guys think? Yay or nay?

You don't need to buy the other books to read the 1602 series. All the other ones were continuations of the 1602 series. I thought it was great and I never even bothered to read the other ones because they weren't written by Gaimen.

IIRC, the spin-offs of this were continuations of the main story, as opposed to side stories. If you read the original series and want more, by all means get the other ones. They're not Gaiman, but they are still decent!

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Unfortunately, I cannot answer you question - but I have one of my own.

How are the various Before Watchmen titles? Any insight would be appreciated.

TIA!

I only know one person reading them and he and I usually have complete opposite opinions on the same comic, but here's his opinion, in order, having read all that have come out so far.

Minutemen - The jewel in the Before Watchmen crown, Minutemen continues to tell the compelling story of the team in the moniker. Their ground wasn't as covered in the original miniseries, so this feels more like a whole story. That's not to say that it isn't guilty of the fill in the blank storytelling the other titles are, but it feels more appropriate with this title.

Rorschach - This runs a close second with Minutemen as being a worthy story to tell. Rorschach isn't necessarily about filling in the blanks. This is a grim and gritty 1970s crime drama. Anyone one the fence about checking out Before Watchmen should at least give this book a try.

Silk Spectre - This book both surprises and disappoints. It really does play out as more of a high school drama that superhero book. However, it doesn't feel like it meshes well with the character of Silk Spectre.

Nite Owl - I'm glad someone told JMS to can the overbearing scenes of Rorschach "hurm"-ing his way through life and instead focus on Nite Owl. When the focus is on him, it's a decent comic book.

Dr. Manhattan - The first issue was almost a frame-by-frame retelling of Watchmen #4. That was tedious. #2 posits an alternate history of what would have happened if Dr. Manhattan hadn't become Dr. Manhattan. It's a cliched bit of science fiction storytelling, but it was leagues better than the first issue. Like all stories that use this framing device, there a little hints and notes that bleed through into this new timeline.

Comedian - The Comedian has become the central character of pretty much all of the Before Watchmen books. He's an unlikeable character. While that's the point for him, it doesn't make it any better. This title highlights only the vilest of his actions and thoughts. A lot goes on in this book, but it feels like it is too cynical.

Ozymandias - This is the worst of the Before Watchmen miniseries. There is absolutely nothing new or interesting to say about Ozymandias. Well, nothing new or interesting as far as this creative team is concerned. There's too much filling in the blanks storytelling with this whole Before Watchmen event anyway, but this book is particularly guilty of being uninteresting. The fact that this isn't one of the four issue minis surprises me. There are still three more issues to go of Ozymandias building his ultimate plan.

If I were reading these same titles, the odds are damn good that I'd be completely reversed in what I enjoyed. So, like any opinion, take it with a grain of salt.

Thanks Swifty! Good info.Anybody else?I'll probably look at picking up the collected editions when they're eventually released...

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I only know one person reading them and he and I usually have complete opposite opinions on the same comic, but here's his opinion, in order, having read all that have come out so far.

Minutemen - The jewel in the Before Watchmen crown, Minutemen continues to tell the compelling story of the team in the moniker. Their ground wasn't as covered in the original miniseries, so this feels more like a whole story. That's not to say that it isn't guilty of the fill in the blank storytelling the other titles are, but it feels more appropriate with this title.

Rorschach - This runs a close second with Minutemen as being a worthy story to tell. Rorschach isn't necessarily about filling in the blanks. This is a grim and gritty 1970s crime drama. Anyone one the fence about checking out Before Watchmen should at least give this book a try.

Silk Spectre - This book both surprises and disappoints. It really does play out as more of a high school drama that superhero book. However, it doesn't feel like it meshes well with the character of Silk Spectre.

Nite Owl - I'm glad someone told JMS to can the overbearing scenes of Rorschach "hurm"-ing his way through life and instead focus on Nite Owl. When the focus is on him, it's a decent comic book.

Dr. Manhattan - The first issue was almost a frame-by-frame retelling of Watchmen #4. That was tedious. #2 posits an alternate history of what would have happened if Dr. Manhattan hadn't become Dr. Manhattan. It's a cliched bit of science fiction storytelling, but it was leagues better than the first issue. Like all stories that use this framing device, there a little hints and notes that bleed through into this new timeline.

Comedian - The Comedian has become the central character of pretty much all of the Before Watchmen books. He's an unlikeable character. While that's the point for him, it doesn't make it any better. This title highlights only the vilest of his actions and thoughts. A lot goes on in this book, but it feels like it is too cynical.

Ozymandias - This is the worst of the Before Watchmen miniseries. There is absolutely nothing new or interesting to say about Ozymandias. Well, nothing new or interesting as far as this creative team is concerned. There's too much filling in the blanks storytelling with this whole Before Watchmen event anyway, but this book is particularly guilty of being uninteresting. The fact that this isn't one of the four issue minis surprises me. There are still three more issues to go of Ozymandias building his ultimate plan.

If I were reading these same titles, the odds are damn good that I'd be completely reversed in what I enjoyed. So, like any opinion, take it with a grain of salt.

Hey, Swifty.....I've been picking these up as they've come out, but have waited to read them until they all end. I was just curious, do any of them tie together, or are they all completely independent of one another? I was trying to figure out if there was a reading order to them.

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Awesome idea for a thread man! I was wondering if Batman The Killing Joke hardcover deluxe edition is any good?

I know the story itself is well worth the price it goes for (in it's graphic novel form). A one-shot Joker story, but a great one. I don't know if the Deluxe edition is worth it or not. I'm not the guy to ask about that, because I'm an original floppy issues guy.

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