Wednesday, April 22, 2015

It was a new beginning, a real turning point," Piero Stefani, a progressive Catholic scholar who teaches Jewish Studies at the Facoltà Teologica del Nord Italia, a Church-owned institute in Milan, told Haaretz. "The dialogue between Catholics and Jews that followed really began with Nostra Aetate...”

“In short, the Church was breaking with its own tradition without openly saying so,” said Stefani, pointing out that before Nostra Aetate, the Jews were openly blamed for the death of Jesus and of being “faithless.” He did, however, point out that there are still theological issues to be resolved: “At a certain point, with Nostra Aetate, the Jews went from being pariahs to being the chosen people. But the Church still has to have an open discussion on how this transition took place...”1

"But the Church still has to have an open discussion on how this transition took place.”

How did this transition take place he does not know !.

TRANSITION

The transition took place Bishop Arturo Cepeda is the Director of the Department of Evangelization, Catechesis and Schools in Detroit would agree, when school children in the Archdiocese of Detroit after 1949 had to use an irrational premise and inference when interpreting Vatican Council II and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Catholic school children had to infer :-

1. We human beings can physically see the dead in Heaven.

2. We can know someone in Heaven in the present times who is there without 'faith and baptism'.

So they are taught to infer that the baptism of desire and being saved in inculpable ignorance are exceptions to the rigorist interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So Jews and other non Catholics did not have to convert.

As I mentioned in the last blog post every one in April 2015 in Detroit, Michigan does not need to formally enter the Catholic Church for salvation.Since there are known exceptions for them.This is how the theological transition took place.

MILLIONS TAUGHT FACTUAL ERROR

Catholic school children, millions of them, were also taught that for Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, as Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith the baptism of water was not always necessary for salvation and 'God is not limited to the Sacraments.'(Catechism of the Catholic Church 1257).

So school children had to infer that for Cardinal Ratzinger, Pope Benedict XVI this was the reasoning:-

1. We human beings including the popes, can physically see the dead in Heaven.(Otherwise how could there be exceptions?)

2. Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger knew someone in Heaven during the time he was working on the Catechism of the Catholic Church, who was there without 'faith and baptism' and this case was personally known to him.(So it became an explicit exception for him)

Then they are also told that for Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 inferred that the dead are visible in the present times and that we can tell who will be saved without the baptism of water.

For him too, like the Archbishop of Boston, Cardinal Cushing, there were known exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Church.This was the major theological change in the Catholic Church. A re-orientation of the only Church of Jesus Christ.

IRRATIONALITY IN DETROIT SCHOOLS

Now Bishop Arturo Cepeda Director of the Department of Evangelization, Catechesis and Schools, nominated by Archbishop Allen Vignon, the Archbishop of Detroit, agrees that this is the reasoning taught to Catholic students in America, including those in Detroit.

He does not deny that this reasoning is not rational.It is the standard reasoning in schools in Detroit.This is the Archdiocese's new approach to Jews.

VORIS TAUGHT NEW ORIENTATION IN SCHOOL

So after Michael Vorris produced a good video on the Jews, which was protested against by the Jewish Left (ADL etc), Voris was asked to remove the name 'Catholic' from his independent media source.He complied.

He complied since he also assumes that there are known, objective, seen in the flesh exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which are mentioned in Vatican Council II. He is was not aware that the 'theological reorientation of the Church' was based on an irrationality, which he also was taught as a school boy.

Michael Voris could not say that his view is in line with Vatican Council II interpreted without the irrational premise and inference.

POST FRANCIS AND RABBIS IN OCTOBER 2015

So this October Post Francis and the Rabbis will celebrate Nostra Aetate without Ad Gentes 7.The Rabbis will not be told that Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7, Lumen Gentium 14 etc) indicates that all Jews need to formally convert into the Catholic Church ( with faith and baptism) to avoid the fires of Hell ( Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441).The pro-Israel rabbis will not be told that Vatican Council II indicates that most people in the present times, Jews included, are on the way to Hell at the time of death.Since they do not have faith in Jewish Messiah and his Teachings.This is what Catholics believe. This is the Catholic teaching according to Vatican Council II.

In October there will be some kind of ideological celebration of Vatican Council II, which is approved by the Zionists.

Meanwhile the liberal, irrational propaganda is taught at Catholic schools all over the world, with the approval of the Vatican and the Jewish Left.

-Lionel Andrades

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It was a new beginning, a real turning point," Piero Stefani, a progressive Catholic scholar who teaches Jewish Studies at the Facoltà Teologica del Nord Italia, a Church-owned institute in Milan, told Haaretz. "The dialogue between Catholics and Jews that followed really began with Nostra Aetate.”

The document describes the Jews as the people that “God holds most dear.” It also states that the death of Jesus “cannot be charged against all the Jews, without distinction, then alive, nor against the Jews of today.”

“In short, the Church was breaking with its own tradition without openly saying so,” said Stefani, pointing out that before Nostra Aetate, the Jews were openly blamed for the death of Jesus and of being “faithless.” He did, however, point out that there are still theological issues to be resolved: “At a certain point, with Nostra Aetate, the Jews went from being pariahs to being the chosen people. But the Church still has to have an open discussion on how this transition took place.”

Meanwhile, French Chief Rabbi Korsia said he was looking forward the Nostra Aetate 50th anniversary celebrations, adding that he hoped to “do something with Pope Francis” this October.

But the Church still has to have an open discussion on how this transition took place.”