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There is a right way to do things and there is a wrong way.

First, Concerning these “Petitions for Secession”.

States ask Congresses permission to be admitted to the union, they do NOT ask permission to exit the union. The Central government is NOT a party to the Constitution of 1787/1789; The Central government is simply a creation of the Constitution. Each of our Sovereign States that seceded from the union in 1860 and 1861 did so as SOVEREIGN States, thereby asserting their sovereignty. They did not petition, there was no need for such foolishness, they simply asserted the Sovereign powers granted them by their citizens.

It is unnecessary today for any of our Confederate States to secede from the United States of America; these acts were accomplished in the years of 1860 and 1861. Each of our Confederate States that seceded in the years of 1860 and 1861 currently exist under the occupation of a foreign National government, (The United States Inc). The current National government in the District of Columbia, and each of its administrative defacto districts (incorrectly referred to as “States”) are simply that, DEFACTO. “To withdraw from the United States of America today and create a NEW government”, would be to establish yet another defacto government where one already exists in place of our dejure governments. The correct LEGAL path to follow is to simply restore each confederate States dejure government, and Constitutions as they were before 1865, and at that point immediately amend those dejure Constitutions, to form the government that the Confederate citizens of each of our Confederate States choose to institute among themselves, otherwise each will still have a defacto government in the space where their dejure governments belong, with their dejure 1861 governments and constitutions having legal claim to remove the defacto government that exists in their place. In other words the issue still remains unsettled. It is a matter of settling the unsettled and doing things the proper, legal, lawful and right way.

As our President Jefferson Davis said…….“A question settled by violence, or in disregard of law, must remain unsettled forever.”

He also said……“The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form.” Until the issue is properly settled it will reassert itself. Each of our Confederate States MUST FOLLOW THE PROPER PATH TO END THE OCCUPATION. THIS IS WHY THE INTERIM GOVERNMENT FOR THE CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA EXISTS. http://csagov.org/

James Everett……..

This article does not necessarily reflect the opinion or position of the Confederate States Interim Government, but is rather an expression of the author.

This petition movement should not present anything that resembles a PETITION because the de jure Confederacy is not ASKING FOR ANYTHING from the occupiers. Asking the de facto for permission is a true exercise in futility. It can even result in being counter-productive with the effect of UNDERMINING THE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES OF RESTORING AMERICA’S CONFEDERACY.

Instead of PETITIONS, the timing is right and overdue for serving DECLARATIONS that have a profound force and effect. We must DECLARE our rights and protections before the world community, while providing incontestable established authority for what we do. Then we resume proceeding forward with our RESTORATION BEING AN ACCOMPLISHED FACT.

This is another time, and another form. From the article that I saw posted on Yahoo, there are even States up in the North that would like to seceed from what I can make of it. Are the people starting to see the signs of the breakup of the USA? Maybe those States up in the North could learn from Southern history, and that they DO NOT need permission to leave the Union, if they choose to do so.

I believe these petitions to be amusing and inspirational but nothing more than that. It’s good to see that people are dissatisfied with the Imperial Federal US government but petitioning for secession makes no sense for the reasons given above. For the member States and Territories of the CSA, secession has already taken place. The reason I say the petitions are inspirational is because it shows there is a great opportunity here. The challenge we should take upon ourselves is to engage in a public relations campaign to make our presence known to these people. When the people who have signed these petitions learn that the CSA is alive and moving forward our numbers would certainly grow. This would be especially true if we make it absolutely clear that the association that people have of the CSA and slavery is a dead issue. It is ridiculous to think that we would advocate slavery now. In fact, the Rights and Liberties enjoyed by CSA citizens have no bearing on race, color or creed. So if the race card is thrown out, what is left? Our steadfast belief in States Rights and a limited Central (Federal) Government restricted by enumerated powers. I believe the downfall of the government built by our Founding Fathers was the ability of the Federal Government to define and expand their own power. We need to ensure we’ve learned this lesson and always have hard and irrevocable language in our Constitution that would prevent a recurrence of expanding Federal powers. If our core beliefs were to be widely known to the general population our numbers would grow like wildfire. As I said, we have a great opportunity here.

This is good news! Plus, many understand that permission is not necessary to secede, however the petitions have brought to the forefront the issue of secession in many minds!Therefore, this shows many are willing to dump DC and the rest of the trash!

Good thing Texas never ceded to the Union nor the Confederacy. We can however establish diplomatic relations. http://watchmanreporters.blogspot.com summarizes the international law still in effect with numerous Treaties and Embassies of Texas. Let me know if you want to be put in contact with the interim Government of the Republic of Texas.

Paperwork sent in. I am looking forward to assisting our Confederacy and my home State any way I can. Those petitions should be an attention getter and actually smoke screen us while we move to restore our Great Confederated Republic, run by the People for the People. Not run by a tyrannical government for the government and enslavement of its citizens. Long may the Blood Stained Banner wave!!! Deo Vindice

I sent in my citizenship a few weeks ago. Although I have always known myself to be a member of the Confederacy without the need for any documentation, Given the current state of the world and the “United States” I am sure the current form of tyranny will not last long. I want to be sure to make myself available to the cause I believe in and getting my name on the roster will bea good start. Please feel free to let me know of any steps I can take as an individual as well as a member of a Southern community as the processes are put in place. Looking forward to the Declaration that we will once again live as FREE men and take back what God has given us.

i also have believed myself to belong to the CSA for many years.I did not know of an official government until September.I became a citizen in october and back the CSA 100%. I have tried to contact missouri reps,but no answer.Would like to know how I can help and support in any way.Please let me know.

Mr. Francis, I have been newly appointed the Missouri Rep. and I am honered to serve and reply to everyone. I would really like to hear from you. I dont know why you havnt had success contacting someone. My email is still the same at m_mcghee68@hotmail.com. I will also be glad to talk to you by phone so please email me. Thank you

Alan Francis, Im a registar. You can contact me at my email m_mcghee68@hotmail.com and I will give you my phone#. Im in the Southeast Mo. region. Where are you located? Looking foreward to hearing from you, Mike

Ever since these Secession talks have started to become big stories on the Internet, I have noticed that alot of these books on Southern secession and Linclon have been selling like crazy from amazon.com.

Mr.Borris, I have noticed that too. I have even seen one of the reporters on a news channel say she noticed it on a flight she was on. She said they were in the hands of alot of people on the flight. I think alot of people are wanting it to happen but wont speak up about it. That may just be wishfull thinking on my part.

Yes, this is a very pressing matter. As we all know the C.S.A is still alive to Confederate believers, but not to U.S citizens. Also, I agree that the issue of slavery is over and does not need to remembered for generations to come. At first, I signed the petition for Mississippi to secede, then I did more research and learned that we are typically under foreign authority. So besides my rambling, God bless you all, the Confederacy, and the south.