I am regularly shocked at how seemingly-normal grown males can be complete candy-asses in modern society.

I was in a Wendy's or something one day, a few years ago. I was in line behind some guy in his 40s...'looked like a typical semi-professional type...collared shirt and khaki slacks with dress shoes, but no blazer or anything. The guy was coming back up to complain that his small vanilla shake was too vanilla-y. It was burning his throat. He wanted to return it and get a chocolate shake, so evidently it wasn't hurting him bad enough that he needed medical treatment or anything. The way the guy whined to the cashier, I was honestly embarrassed for American males. This is what we've become? A vanilla shake can kick our grown-male asses now? :huh

Butch stood there whining for the better part of 5 minutes, convincing the cashier to give him a chocolate shake free of charge, so I had to politely butt in and ask the guy if I could place an order before my lunchbreak, or the entire workday for that matter, came to an end. He gave me a butt-hurt kind of look for a split-second, but the unwavering stare from my menacing 5'8"/180lb frame gave him too much pause to protest out loud. He was probably too busy trying not to piss his pants in fear to collect his thoughts for a witty reply.

If anybody here ever hears me complain about a vanilla shake kicking my ass, and I don't have a bleeding throat ulcer or an open trachea fresh from surgery, PLEASE...just kick me square in the nuts to make sure I still have some. Then offer me a shot of vanilla extract and moonshine to soothe my man-gina.

I am from out of state so it does not aply to me. Where I am from they name their football teams after fury mammals with claws... Things that could ruin your day by more than just taking a poop on your car or falling the sapling in your back yard.

Holy sheeee---iiiitttt! I could go on for days on the "chic-ifaction" of the American male population; metrosexual men, pansies, tools...whatever you want to call them.

IMO, and FAIW...
I do agree that most men (the aforementioned) are completely pussy whipped. I had an old family friend tell me when I was out sowing my oats way back in the day:

"Women own half the land, half the money and all the pussy"

Think about that for a moment. That one statement basically sums up why most panty waste men are like they are.

Do you or have you...?
Clean your own house (you or your wife)?
Wash your own car?
Wash your won clothes?
Change you own vehicle oil (car or bike)?
Mow your own lawn?
Change a flat tire on your car?
Refuse to pay someone to do something that you can do?
Know how to drink water from a spigot or stream without the use of a bottle/container?
If you answer NO then you need to give your "man card" back!

Have more suits and ties than tools?
Only drink water from a bottle?
Paid more than 2$ for cup of coffee on purpose?
Wear matching underwear and socks?
Worry if your belt and shoes match?
Watch Lifetime TV more than Spike TV?
Paid more than 40$ for a pair of bluejeans?
If you answer YES then just shoot yourself as you are a total waste to manhood!

Holy sheeee---iiiitttt! I could go on for days on the "chic-ifaction" of the American male population; metrosexual men, pansies, tools...whatever you want to call them.

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Do you or have you...?
Clean your own house (you or your wife)? Both. Why would I expect my wife to do it all...?
Wash your own car? Yes...I drive it through the car wash. Does that count?
Wash your won clothes? Yes
Change you own vehicle oil (car or bike)? Bike, not car. For $25.00, why would I?
Mow your own lawn? Yes
Change a flat tire on your car? Yes
Refuse to pay someone to do something that you can do? Not always. Sometimes my time is worth more to me than doing the job myself
Know how to drink water from a spigot or stream without the use of a bottle/container? Yes. Learned in the Army and on countless backpacking, skiing and kayak trips
If you answer NO then you need to give your "man card" back!

Have more suits and ties than tools? About the same. What can I say, I like to dress well.
Only drink water from a bottle? Nope
Paid more than 2$ for cup of coffee on purpose? Yep. Starbuck quad grande americano every morning. And I don't even have a GS...
Wear matching underwear and socks? WTF? People do this?
Worry if your belt and shoes match? I don't worry about it...they just always do. And my cufflinks go with my shirt. Tie complements both shirt and suit.
Watch Lifetime TV more than Spike TV? Don't watch the idiot box at all
Paid more than 40$ for a pair of bluejeans? Of course. 501s are about $50...
If you answer YES then just shoot yourself as you are a total waste to manhood!

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So, to be manly, I have to be slovenly, unkempt, watch mindless TV, and drink bad coffee?

I think that you need to broaden your definition of what 'manly' is. Either that or not care about whether other men are meeting your definition. After all, if the rest of us are pansies, then there will be more women for you, right?

So, to be manly, I have to be slovenly, unkempt, watch mindless TV, and drink bad coffee?

I think that you need to broaden your definition of what 'manly' is. Either that or not care about whether other men are meeting your definition. After all, if the rest of us are pansies, then there will be more women for you, right?

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You barley passed the test
Deduct 20 points If you gotta have a Starbuck quad grande americano every day.

You barley passed the test
Deduct 20 points If you gotta have a Starbuck quad grande americano every day.

Large black coffee doesn't work for you?

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So I <klay> barely <klay> passed YOUR definition of manhood. Meh. That's alright.
As for coffee, a quad grande americano is 4 shots of espresso topped off with water...What, you're not manly enough to drink that?

All kidding aside, I think that the definition of 'masculine' has evolved. As it should. It used to be 'manly' to smack your wife around and yell at the kids...I prefer to be a gentleman, albeit a capable one.

A sample of stuff over the past 2 weeks or so: I changed the oil and gear oil on my 1987 Porsche as part of the winterization routine, built an 8'x8' deck alone, played dress-up with my daughter, played soccer with my daughter, attended taekwondo lessons that my daughter and I take together, cooked dinner for my girlfriend, discovered a very nice South African wine that was pretty good for the price, painted my daughter's nails, went for a 2 up dirt ride with my girl, got my back-country skis ready for the season, bought tickets for a stage production of Pride and Prejudice as a surprise for my girlfriend, landed a 3 year consulting gig at a reasonable rate and bought myself a nice suit as a reward.

So I <klay> barely <klay> passed YOUR definition of manhood. Meh. That's alright.
As for coffee, a quad grande americano is 4 shots of espresso topped off with water...What, you're not manly enough to drink that?

All kidding aside, I think that the definition of 'masculine' has evolved. As it should. It used to be 'manly' to smack your wife around and yell at the kids...I prefer to be a gentleman, albeit a capable one.

A sample of stuff over the past 2 weeks or so: I changed the oil and gear oil on my 1987 Porsche as part of the winterization routine, built an 8'x8' deck alone, played dress-up with my daughter, played soccer with my daughter, attended taekwondo lessons that my daughter and I take together, cooked dinner for my girlfriend, discovered a very nice South African wine that was pretty good for the price, painted my daughter's nails, went for a 2 up dirt ride with my girl, got my back-country skis ready for the season, bought tickets for a stage production of Pride and Prejudice as a surprise for my girlfriend, landed a 3 year consulting gig at a reasonable rate and bought myself a nice suit as a reward.

Specialization is for insects.

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WOW...u gotta good daughter! rather shes got a good dad! minus the starbucks every day...