Several years back, on ebay, you would see remnants of the Black House popping up for sale.... apparently, people would break in to the board up property to take light fixtures, door knobs, pieces of wood, pieces of the fire place and anything they could....

Anyone have any Black House remnants??? I also know that a lot of the stuff inside, ending up just being thrown out when Barton and crew moved out... any chance?

Ok, well now that you mention it, I just so happen to have a piece of the siding from the "Black House" in question. For a couple of thousand dollars, I just might be willing to part with it. I will even send you a hand signed certificate of authenticity, and swear on the bible that it's real.

Any offers??

Ummmm and also, I have two door knobs, a rusty nail, and a floor plank. Those I would part for only a couple of hundred bucks.

Edited by Asmedious (01/20/1009:22 PM)

_________________________
"The first order of government is the protection of its citizens right to be left alone."

I mean really, get over it. It sounds like you are just jonesing for a LaVey/Satan drug fix.

Between this shit and your gossip and comments about Karla do you have anything of substance to add to this site.

I am honestly just tired of it, if you need an Anton fix so bad go try to meet Blanche and date her. Its probably the closest you can get to Anton, aside from sniffing ashes. *

Morgan

*(Side note, I do not endorce sniffing ashes, and I don't even know where such ashes would be, if they even exist in one place.)

Morgan, I am sorry u r so angered by my statements. If they are going to be that upsetting to you, perhaps you should simply not read them?

I think its a perfectly viable question. For instance--- I have a friend who has has a huge piece of flooring from the Black House that he made into an art piece. Since we all know that 90% of the House and a lot of the contents went to the dumpsters, it is only logical to assume that people kept souvenirs.

I think Morgan makes a good point. 90% of your posts involve you vulturing over details of the LaVey family's personal business like some sort of garbage picking paparazzi. I for one find your behavior a little slimy and completely lacking in any sort of couth or tact. I am left wondering if you have some sort of ulterior motive for this or if you are just an annoying gossip monger.

Seriously dude, nobody cares. Do you have anything ELSE to contribute here?

Since we all know that 90% of the House and a lot of the contents went to the dumpsters, it is only logical to assume that people kept souvenirs.

Assuming something is an exercise in faith not logic. If 90% made it to the dumpster than it is logical to assume 90% is in a landfill somewhere. It is also more logical to assume the 90% claim is sheer speculation and incorrect.

Originally Posted By: 111Cal

For instance--- I have a friend who has has a huge piece of flooring from the Black House that he made into an art piece.

You say your friend has a piece of flooring from LaVey’s home, since you brought it up the burden of proof lies with you. Without proof all we have here is verbal masturbation and hearsay.

If I were interested in such an object I would first ask, what empirical evidence do you have to back up this claim? To flip that thought, what proof would you ask for such a piece?

I once heard of a guitar that was made from the wood from the original shack Muddy Waters was born in. Only a serious FAN or FOLLOWER would consider such a thing to have any true value.

~T~

_________________________
We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams. ~Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy

I think its a perfectly viable question. For instance--- I have a friend who has has a huge piece of flooring from the Black House that he made into an art piece.

And I have one of his instruments and made a shisha out of it "blasphemical smoke". Do you believe me? You better not so, neither do you have to belief that friend of yours.

Are you some kind of freakish collector? Do you think you can gain "dark powers" by owning some collectibles or authentic memorablia? Get real, the memorablia you are searching for is no more different then the same stuff you buy in your first grocery store. The piece of flooring your friend claims to have made into an art piece is no more different than the flooring at my house or any other house. You are giving it too much symbolic credit. If you really have an admiration for things linked with Satanism then better start reading his books and start living it.

Memorabilia is a valid market. The person I know is a full time artist and also has photos of himself and a friend removing the wood in question from the Black House. So its verifiable.

Does it have any real worth? I suppose not. However it is interesting and unique. Much like someone I know who collects 1930/40s movie items and has a trenchcoat owned by Errol Flynn. OF COURSE, you can get a coat anyplace, but to him, its a big deal.

This member has not been online since 1-29-10. They made 62 posts in the 35 days they were active here. Those who contribute such usually burn out and disappear quickly. Consider this and the fact that he was getting called out for his behavior, I doubt you will be getting a reply anytime soon.

~T~

_________________________
We are the music makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams. ~Arthur William Edgar O'Shaughnessy

Actually I am still around! As for being Felons??? Come now... the Black House was being destroyed and an important part of history was going to a landfill. I know for a fact that MANY MANY MANY people went into the black house between when it was vacated and when it was demolished... u can look on youtube for home videos of people who went in... and anyone who "stole" something that was going to be destroyed anyway is not a criminal in my book.

As for being "called out" for asking? I think not. It is true that many many people do NOT see the value in sentiment... there are just as many who do. I know firsthand that many "well know" satanists (if u can call them that) have items that were LaVeys... and if u check ebay from time to time, you will see that basically 99.99% of everything that Zeena and Nikolas got was sold to auction houses to dump! (I think right now there are some old checks of LaVeys that they either cleaned out and took or got in the settlement that are for sale on ebay)

As for being Felons??? Come now... the Black House was being destroyed and an important part of history was going to a landfill. I know for a fact that MANY MANY MANY people went into the black house between when it was vacated and when it was demolished... u can look on youtube for home videos of people who went in... and anyone who "stole" something that was going to be destroyed anyway is not a criminal in my book....

As for being "called out" for asking? I think not. It is true that many many people do NOT see the value in sentiment...

You're right. Unless they stole something valued over $400,according to California Penal Code they would just be Misdemeanor crimes.

They broke into a home that they did not own,trespassing on property they did not own,to take things that do not belong to them. Very admirable.

I suppose you wouldn't have had a problem with rooting through the Doktors' garbage,either. "Have you any of Miss Bartons' tampons?"

I stick to my original analysis. Your friends are idiots.

We are known,indeed,by the company we keep.

Edited by CanisMajor (03/16/1001:14 PM)

_________________________
For every complex problem,there is a solution that is simple,neat,and wrong.H.L Mencken

If it makes you feel better to call me names, then I am happy for you.

Let me ask this... Is it better that it ends up in the Garbage????

For instance, we all know LaVey did a lot of work to the house... decorating wise... light fixtures, painting, tiling. These are momentos of a bygone era and a great mans life.

I do not advocate trespassing in the slightest, however in this instance... we are talking about a time when the "heirs" had allready taken what they wanted. The house was going to be demolished and disposed of... so If someone removed a light fixture, or a pane of glass, or a railing or such and preserved it... is that somehow hurting someone???

Isnt that preferable to having it in a landfill somewhere?

As for Miss Bartons "personal items" that is just being inane. Noone would take such an item, and you well know it. What I was refering to were those who had a valid respect for LaVey and wanted a momento from an important piece of history before it was destroyed forever. (and if I were to name drop some of the people who "aquired" things from the Black House... you would be suprised)

I for one would rather know that a small piece of the Black House lives in say... as part of a piece of art in someones collection, or to know that a light from the Black House is now part of someones home, treated with respect, or that wood from the Black House has been reworked into a display... then to think of it in a dump someplace....