As it turns out your daughter was right and the teachers were wrong. This is exactly how they work. They punish anyone who goes against consensus so the other kids will toe the line if they want good grades. It is done all the way to the PHD level and nobody challenges the theories they want promoted. Pure Junk science to promote an agenda.

But my question then to Panetta and Joint Chief Dempsey is: So what did YOU do? Why did you not send in help? Who gave order to stand down?

Agree. During the hearing, one Senator did mention how curious it was that they STILL had not heard from the people who were on the ground at the time. No comment was made by either Panetta or Dempsey as to the why they were sitll unavailable.

That claim about being told to "stand down" did not come out of thin air. It happened and as of yet still needs to be explained. Maybe the reporter who first revealed it will be able to convince her source to reveal more.

When asked who was in charge of the op Panetta replied, "the forces on the ground." In other words Woods,Doherty and Smith who had all been told to stand down were actually in charge of the op but didn't know that no help was ever coming.Bizarre at best.'

9:59 p.m. -- A surveillance drone is directed to fly over the U.S. compound, but it is unarmed.

10:32 p.m. -- The Office of the Secretary Defense and the Joint Staff are notified of the attack by the National Military Command Center at the Pentagon. "The information is quickly passed to Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey."

11 p.m. -- Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey meet with President Obama at the White House where they discuss the unfolding situation and how to respond. The meeting had been previously scheduled.

11:30 p.m. -- All surviving U.S. personnel are evacuated from the consulate. U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and State Department computer expert Sean Smith were killed in the initial assault.

September 12

Midnight to 2 a.m. -- Panetta and other senior leaders discuss possible options for further violence if it were to break out. Panetta gives verbal orders for Marine anti-terrorist teams from Rota, Spain, to prepare to deploy to Tripoli and Benghazi. Panetta also orders a special operations force team training in Croatia and an additional special operations force team in the United States to prepare to deploy to a staging base in southern Italy.

1:30 a.m. -- A six-man security team from the U.S. Embassy in Tripoli arrives in Benghazi.

2:39 a.m. to 2:53 a.m. -- The National Military Command Center gives formal authorization for the deployment of the two special operations force teams from Croatia and the United States.

5:15 a.m. -- Attackers launch assault on a second U.S. facility in Benghazi. Two former U.S. Navy SEALs acting as security contractors are killed. They are identified as Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

6:05 a.m. -- A C-17 aircraft in Germany is told to prepare to deploy to Libya to evacuate the consulate personnel.

7:40 a.m. -- The first wave of Americans are evacuated to Tripoli via airplane.

10 a.m. -- A second group, including those killed in the attack, are flown to Tripoli.

2:15 p.m. -- The C-17 departs from Germany for the flight to Tripoli.

7:17 p.m. -- The C-17 leaves Tripoli with the American consulate personnel and the bodies of Stevens, Smith, Woods and Doherty.

7:57 p.m. -- The U.S. special operations force team based in Croatia arrives at a staging base in Italy.

8:56 p.m. -- One of the Marine anti-terrorist teams from Spain arrives in Tripoli.

9:28 p.m. -- The U.S.-based special operations force team arrives at its staging base in Italy.

What I find most shocking is that the military was not sent into Benghazi to secure both compounds on September 12. Panetta admitted during the hearings that they had the capability to do this but the request never came. It took 23 days for us to enter the compounds.

I have no doubt that the primary mission of the facility in Benghazi was intelligence and other activities. I don't buy any of the conspiracy theories that this was a hit on Stevens or that it was planned to use Stevens as a hostage to release the blind sheik. We could have been using it to funnel guns to the revolutionary forces in Syria. But if this facility was deemed so important to our national security interests, we should have provided the security to protect our personnel.

Just 29% more to Go!
Not bad, given that Marxist’s unconscionable economy, and he’s wrecking it on purpose. It’s all part of the Communist plan, as explained in “The Naked Communist,” which I read as a school girl.

I work in the SPED dept. of our local Jr Hi, several years ago I helped a young man write a report on GW. He chose to be against it. I was fearful that his grade would be impacted by his stance. But to my great surprize, after putting together a terrific report, he earned an A and a Blue Ribbon at our county fair.

Maybe this is due to what part of the country I live in and it was just Jr Hi.

You can never tell by individual instances, but you said the work was hard to dismiss and it could have been obvious. You wouldn’t have been surprised if he was punished however. We have all seen that. I got it on a paper I wrote on the Yalta agreement from an econ professor.

Well, lets give blame where it is also due, not just Obama and the Lib politiicans....Its the undeducated masses!

I just listened to Pelosi...she is illogical, her speech is tangential and she can not carry on a clear, logical “argument” AT ALL. What frightens me is that MOST Americans think just like her, talk like her and also can not follow an argument logically. When they hear her, it makes all the sense in the world to them...a nation of borderline dementia voters ( no offense to true dementia sufferers).

Besides a Montana nose that picks up every snowstorm within three hundred miles, I’ve only got my catcher’s collection of broken bones to kick my butt when a front goes through, but I do believe I will reject any offers to trade.

 9:40 p.m.: A senior State Department security officer at the consulate in Benghazi called the CIA base, at an annex about a mile away, and requested assistance. "The compound is under attack. People are moving through the gates." CIA officers at the base can hear the alarm, and a team immediately begins gathering weapons and preparing to leave

 10:04: A seven-person rescue squad from the agency's Global Response Staff leaves in two vehicles. The team leader is a career CIA officer and includes a contractor named Tyrone Woods, who later died. During the previous 24-minute interval, the CIA base chief calls the 17 February Brigade, other militias and the Libyan intelligence service seeking vehicles with 50-caliber machine guns. Nobody responds. The team leader and the base chief agree at 10:04 they can't wait any longer and head for the consulate.

 10:10: The rescue team reached a chaotic intersection a few blocks from the consulate. Militias gathered there have several 50-caliber machine guns, which the CIA team tries unsuccessfully to commandeer; three militiamen offer to help. The rescue party now includes 10 people: six GRS officers; a CIA translator, and the three Libyan volunteers.

 10:20: A reconnaissance party of two GRS officers heads to the consulate; at 10:25, three more GRS officers enter the main gate and begin engaging the attackers. The firefight lasts about 15 minutes.

 10:40: Members of the CIA team enter the burning inferno of "Villa C," where Ambassador Christopher Stevens is believed to be hiding. CIA officers try numerous times to reach the "safe room," but are driven back by the intense smoke and fire. Small arms fire continues from the Libyan attackers.

 11:11: An unarmed military Predator drone arrives over the compound to provide aerial reconnaissance. The drone had been diverted from a mission over Darnah, Libya, about 90 minutes away. But without weapons, it can't help much.

 11:15: The CIA team puts the State Department group into a vehicle and sends them to the agency base; at 11:30, the CIA officers depart under fire and reach the annex six minutes later.

 11:56: CIA officers at the annex are attacked by a rocket-propelled grenade and small arms. Sporadic attacks continue for about another hour. The attacks stop at 1:01 a.m., and some assume the fight is over.

 1:15 a.m.: CIA reinforcements arrive on a 45-minute flight from Tripoli in a plane they've hastily chartered. The Tripoli team includes four GRS security officers, a CIA case officer and two U.S. military personnel who are on loan to the agency. They don't leave Benghazi airport until 4:30. The delay is caused by negotiations with Libyan authorities over permission to leave the airport, obtaining vehicles, and the need to frame a clear mission plan. The first idea is to go to a Benghazi hospital to recover Stevens, who they correctly suspect is already dead. But the hospital is surrounded by the al-Qaida-linked Ansar al-Shariah militia that mounted the consulate attack.

 5:04: The team from Tripoli arrives at the CIA base. Glen Doherty, one of the GRS men from Tripoli, goes to the roof and joins Woods in firing positions.

 5:15: A new Libyan assault begins, this time with mortars. Two rounds miss and the next three hit the roof. The rooftop defenders never "laser the mortars," as has been reported. They don't know they're in place until the indirect fire begins, nor are they observed by the drone overhead. The defenders have focused their laser sights earlier on several Libyan attackers, as warnings not to fire. At 5:26 the attack is over. Woods and Doherty are dead and two others are wounded.

 6:00: Libyan forces from the military intelligence service finally arrive, now with 50 vehicles. They escort the Americans to the airport. A first group of 18, including two wounded, depart at 7 a.m. A second group of 12, plus the four dead, leave at 10 for Tripoli and then the long flight back to America.

Several things are worth noting. It is obvious that we had problems with Libyan authorities who prevented the reaction team from reaching our facilities for more than three hours.

Although it appears that the annex was hit twice that night, the impression you get from the MSM and the Administration was that there were just two attacks that night-one against the Mission compound and one seven hours later against the Annex. In fact, the annex was hit twice.

No one asked Hillary if she was on the phone with the Libyan government to clear up the delay problems at the Benghazi airport and to ask for more protection for our facilities once the first attack on the annex was finished. There was close to four hours between attacks on the annex, which held all of our surviving personnel.

No, all these reports about idle carriers, carriers leaving the Persian Gulf, etc, are the Obama administration’s ploys to scare the American people and Republicans into making the concessions on the budget that HE wants.

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Now if we could just have a few Republicans SAY THIS when they are in front of a camera, we might have a chance.

So then why were Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty told to "stand down" or is that not true?

Take a look at the CIA timeline I provided. The CIA claims that no such order was ever given.

So where are they, and why has nobody including WND, National Enquirer, FNC, British Press, Al Jazzera etc interviewed any of them?

The Obama Administration is not allowing it. It will take a whistle-blower to get this information. Congress should at least be requesting that these people be interviewed privately since most of them appear to be CIA and other intelligence agency personnel who don't want their identities exposed.

I believe it was Jennifer Griffin who broke the "stand down". Here's what the report says at the end:

..."According to a source who debriefed those who were at the CIA annex that night, When they asked for air support, they were told they could have an unarmed drone.

Fox News has now learned that the FBI and CIA have contacted the Global Response Staff (GRS) and Special Operating Forces teams who were involved that night and warned them about sharing information from the rescue efforts that night and have threatened to prosecute further leaks. "

Do you think the whole thing a cia op? Will the administration use cia as an eventual excuse?
If the purpose of the attack was not to hold Stevens as a hostage or to kill him because he knew too much why were they attacking?

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posted on 02/10/2013 8:48:15 AM PST
by rodguy911
(FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)

I think they will continue to avoid answering...using the “it’s under investigation” excuse. until a time down the road when everyone’s forgotten and a report will be released as part of the friday media dump in hopes that no one sees it.

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