pixel, 28 Sep 2017Total fail on Google for releasing a crappy flagship. I'll stick to Samsung or LG. Not even IP... moreFirst people complain about its lack of water resistance and now that they have it people still complain lol get over yourselves.

Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017Depends to whom you compare (the consumer) to. If it is to someone who has a relatively good t... moreI'm sure they take things away that matters to consumers but not to them. The people that complains are the ones that come here to do it which as you can see, is just a small % of people.Their sales didn't tumble cos they remove the removable batteries, it was cos of the Chinese OEM and you don't see them having removable as well.

oalemao, 28 Sep 20172017 is the year tech fans will remeber when chinese manufactors did their homework and went o... moreEhh lack of a feature is either a problem for you or not, the price is really irrelevant. I'd remember 2017 as the year when Chinese manufacturers decided to cripple their phones just as much as the rest.

They decided to start lowering battery capacities too, now 3000 is again the norm even for the 5.5+ models.

2017 is the year tech fans will remeber when chinese manufactors did their homework and went out to rule the mobile world.

my personal phone of 2017 - the xiaomi MI6. i had a hands on experience these days. i have to admit. great phone. OK - no headphone jack. but at this pricetag - who cares! SD835, adreno 540, 128gb of storage, 6gb of ram, dual cam and dual sim. all in a handy 5,15 inch phone? that is really a no brainer.

Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017Depends to whom you compare (the consumer) to. If it is to someone who has a relatively good t... moreNo, he was right about himself and consumers who didn't know what they wanted.

Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017So what exactly are we "gaining" from no headphone jack this time?
The phone still has chun... moreSony somehow managed to put the same chipset, battery and sterio speakers as Pixel 2 has into a smaller body of XZ1 Compact (water resistent too). And also a 3.5 mm jack. And memory card slot. And SIM slot.

LethalOne, 28 Sep 2017I've been itching for a new phone, but with crappy battery sizes, no headphone jack, no microS... moreYea...let's see how long before they remove speakers, batteries and even displays, and offer external replacements. Hyper mega "premium" experience!

Anonymous, 28 Sep 2017Steve Jobs once stated that consumers don't know what they want.Depends to whom you compare (the consumer) to. If it is to someone who has a relatively good taste, then indeed Jobs knew better. He brought the smartphone world kicking and screaming into the touch era.

But I'm not sure if the same is true for executives. For example Samsung executives don't know a thing about phone design. They peaked with Galaxy S4 and Note 4 and since then no subsequent phone ever sold as much. You know why? Because they're blindly add and remove things, often things that matter to consumers.

See for example their flagship sales taking a tumble ever since they sealed the battery. They're not very capable individuals. They just happen to be at the helm of a giant... they merely stand on the shoulders of giants.