I chose to put up these movesets for that exact reason - the other trio has better movesets and ones which i already know. I wanted to see how some for the birds would go because they are very limited.

Articuno sounds good with what you said, but im keeping Sky Attack on Moltres. Im also tempted to give Moltres Agility so he can get moves in first.

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Not sure what I want for the last pokemon. This is going to be a Pokemon Stadium 2 team, too. I only have Silver version and I can't trade with my other versions because I don't have two N64 controllers so don't suggest something from Yellow or Gold and R/B/C don't even save anymore anyway.

So basically, I only have access to items in Silver version and Silver version only. [Which means all TMs because I can clone items]

-Thunderbolt
-Thunderwave
-Return
-Light Screen
Without access to Surf, this thing is outclassed by and . Without Hidden power (Ice or Grass are good), this is a good moveset. When in doubt for an item, @Leftovers, or

@ mint berry

-Rest
-Earthquake
-Body Slam
-Curse
@Leftovers. Shadow Ball or Earthqake is fine. Body Slam is okay for paralysis, but if you look for power, go with Return.

-Endure
-Reversal
-Earthquake
-Mega Horn
Either PrzCure Berry, or a Miracle Berry - status is your biggest problem. And, there are no speed up berries, unfortunately. Moves are just fine.

@ ???

-Psychic
-Dream Eater
-Hypnosis
???
Hypno was envisioned as a portrayal of Hypnosis/Dream Eater combo, but Hypnosis is 60% accurate - so thats a no. Psychic is good, and go with one or two punches, and throw on a defensive move, like barrier or <s>amnesia</s> light screen (maybe rest)

Not sure what I want for the last pokemon. This is going to be a Pokemon Stadium 2 team, too. I only have Silver version and I can't trade with my other versions because I don't have two N64 controllers so don't suggest something from Yellow or Gold and R/B/C don't even save anymore anyway.

So basically, I only have access to items in Silver version and Silver version only. [Which means all TMs because I can clone items]
Noone (except maybe Hypno) can really take physical moves welll. Skarmory, Forretress, <s>and Steelix</s> are all good choices. Forretress explodes, while skarmory toxi-shuffles.

Water Gun
Water Gun
Sky Attack
Fly
Do me a favor - No. I will not rate missingno.

Blastoise

Water Pulse
Stomp
Crunch
Focus Blast
Surf, Ice Beam, Rapid Spin/Rest, Mirror Coat/Counter. Mirror Coat is through breeding, counter through RBY. Can't have both though (when you breed for mirror coat, you get rid of counter; when you send it through the Time machine, you get rid of mirror coat.

Fri Aug 03, 2007 11:02 am

Krisp

Lite Four

Joined: Sun May 29, 2005 6:21 pmPosts: 3472

Thanks for rating my team, but I've made a few changes.

@ miracle berry [replacing Raichu]

-Thunderwave
-Thunderbolt
-Double Kick
-Agility

[It's already evolved and stuff, so I don't think it can BP]

@ leftovers [replacing Hypno]

-Psychic
-Surf
-Amnesia
-Rest

@ leftovers

-Explosion
-Psychic
-Thunderbolt
-Ice Punch

The rest of my team is the same (Snorlax, Heracross, Typhlosion) and I'll be using this team for Pokemon Stadium 2. Now though, I can trade with RBY.

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Sat Aug 04, 2007 7:12 pm

Peanut-Lover

Site Administrator

Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 amPosts: 1917Location: Brooklyn, NY

Krisp wrote:

Thanks for rating my team, but I've made a few changes.

@ miracle berry [replacing Raichu]

-Thunderwave
-Thunderbolt
-Double Kick
-Agility

[It's already evolved and stuff, so I don't think it can BP]
Well, did it know b-pass as an Eevee? If so, the move relearner in Stadium2. You could always breed. I personally find umbreon more useful, but this is okay either way. Do you have any idea about the hidden power?

I chose this over another I liked, Heracross, because heracross doesnt have much variety in its attacks, Although Megahorn might be worth it, along with the other attcks Krisp has on Heracross (its speed is much higher too) I dont know which to choose and then which Attacks to choose please help here.

Im having a lot of trouble finding a good special sweeper..Kadabra has a high SpAtk, but im not sure about the attacks... I considered Espeon, but its not much different from Kadabra, just harder to get to evolve early.....Also considered jynx (lack of good moves)

I wanted a tank that could take hits, and looked to me as shuckle was the best in GSC for that but I also want a pokemon that could act as a toxi-trapper..again shuckle seemd good...
But umbreon seems to do well there too with meanlook, toxic, confuse ray, and moonlight...but it doesnt work as well as a tank as shuckle... Need your thoughts here too..

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Sun Aug 05, 2007 6:52 pm

Diyon

Bug Catcher

Joined: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:07 pmPosts: 24

My Team:

@ Leftovers
-Solar Beam-
-Sunny Day-
-HP Fire-
-LightScreen-

@Mystic Water
-Amnesia-
-EarthQuake-
-Surf-
-Rain Dance-

@Magnet
-Swift-
-ThunderBolt-
-Reflect-
-Mirror Coat-

@Nevermeltice
-Take Down-
-IceBeam-
-Curse-
-EarthQuake-

@???
-FlameThrower-
-Confuse Ray-
-Psychic-
-ThunderPunch

@???
-DragonBreath-
-Outrage-
-SafeGuard-
-Return-

Well that is it.

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Wed Aug 08, 2007 4:24 pm

Cherrygrove

Gym Leader

Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 6:28 pmPosts: 737Location: Toronto

Diyon wrote:

My Team:

@ Leftovers
-Solar Beam-
-Sunny Day-
-HP Fire-
-LightScreen-
I guess thats as good as you can make meganium Good use of special attacks with Sunny Day ... Light Screen to keep weaknesses at a minimum ..........Great

@Magnet
-Swift-
-ThunderBolt-
-Reflect-
-Mirror Coat-
I would replace reflect for light screen altough with your weaknesses I dont think it matters....Mirror Coat and thunderbolt are good... But I would like to see Explosion on electrode, So Id replace swift with that

@???
-FlameThrower-
-Confuse Ray-
-Psychic-
-ThunderPunch
Well Magmar's worst stat by far is defense, so Id Put barrier on it, replacing thunder punch.. Also Magmar has a pretty good Attack, so you could teach it return, replacing flamethrower or psychic, but thats not all important because special attack is better... Up to you.. As for the held Item... Leftovers

@???
-DragonBreath-
-Outrage-
-SafeGuard-
-Return-
Well the only bad thing about this is Dragon Breath.. I think Its useless.. Id say twister is better but not by much.. Id replace it with a really powerful special move like Fire Blast, Thunder, Blizzard... and If you like recharging.........Dare I say... Hyper Beam ( as a KO move perhaps)

I chose this over another I liked, Heracross, because heracross doesnt have much variety in its attacks, Although Megahorn might be worth it, along with the other attcks Krisp has on Heracross (its speed is much higher too) I dont know which to choose and then which Attacks to choose please help here.
Rock Slide in the third spot. A hidden power or return > screech.

Im having a lot of trouble finding a good special sweeper..Kadabra has a high SpAtk, but im not sure about the attacks... I considered Espeon, but its not much different from Kadabra, just harder to get to evolve early.....Also considered jynx (lack of good moves)
Options: Jynx (Lovely Kiss, Psychic, Ice Beam), Slowbro (Psychic, Ice Beam, Surf, Flamethrower). Kadabra/Hypno (Psychic, T-punch, Ice Punch, Recover/Fire Punch), Lapras (Ice Beam, T-bolt, Sing/Confuse Ray/Rest/Surf, Sing/Confuse Ray/Rest/Surf).

I wanted a tank that could take hits, and looked to me as shuckle was the best in GSC for that but I also want a pokemon that could act as a toxi-trapper..again shuckle seemd good...
But umbreon seems to do well there too with meanlook, toxic, confuse ray, and moonlight...but it doesnt work as well as a tank as shuckle... Need your thoughts here too..
I prefer umbreon, for the more balanced stats. Rest > Moonlight, so you don't have only 5 pp.

I don't have RBY or crystal so please don't tell me to get anything from those games.
ty

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Thu Aug 16, 2007 7:04 am

joky

Dragon Tamer

Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 4:23 amPosts: 112Location: oompa loompa land

*bump*

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Double team as much as possible and then rest. Then just sweep on, although this set wouldn't do well against water types =/

Earthquake
Ancientpower
Wing Attack
[insert move]

Psychic
Giga Drain
Confuse Ray
Destiny Bond

Well, what is your oppinion about this team? Some of the movesets ain't really any I've seen many try, but would be interesting to use them myself... Hence this is just what I'm planning to get, I haven't used any of them

Double team as much as possible and then rest. Then just sweep on, although this set wouldn't do well against water types =/
Dragonbreath > Double Team (foe kingdra, paralysis). Return > Rest (sweeper, not staller). @Miracle berry or leftovers.

Earthquake
Ancientpower
Wing Attack
[insert move]
You could rock slide through NYPC or Cheating. Other than that, ancient power or hp rock is fine. for the last move - supersonic for confusion/switches, whirlwind for switches, or substitute to keep you alive.

Well, what is your oppinion about this team? Some of the movesets ain't really any I've seen many try, but would be interesting to use them myself... Hence this is just what I'm planning to get, I haven't used any of them Crystal really helps - thunderbolts, ice beams, baton pass on umbreon. I'd reccomend a Lapras > Kingdra, Alakazam/Jynx > Hypno, and a Machamp > Typhlosion

Thu Sep 13, 2007 4:18 pm

necromaggot

Bug Catcher

Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:40 pmPosts: 1

okay here is what I have...I have to say im sorta new to making extreme decimation-causing pokemon...mostly I have just trained them to be strong and knock out the pokemon in like 1 or 2 hits...

Ampharos
~Thunderpunch
~Fire Punch
~Thunder Wave
~Attract
--I don't have Crystal and is that how she gets T-Bolt?

Tyranitar
~Earthquake
~Rock Slide
~Crunch
~Return

Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:17 pm

Peanut-Lover

Site Administrator

Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 amPosts: 1917Location: Brooklyn, NY

Ahhh! please don't give bad rates.

necromaggot wrote:

okay here is what I have...I have to say im sorta new to making extreme decimation-causing pokemon...mostly I have just trained them to be strong and knock out the pokemon in like 1 or 2 hits...

lv 42 @ Mystery Berry
Aeroblast
Safeguard
Gust
Recover
About 5 other sets work better than this. Lugia has excellent defenses, and it was meant for that. Curse, aeroblast, Shadow Ball, and Earthquake is popular. Some like Rest in there. Alternatively, seeing as you have such good defenses, go all out attacking. On the special side, you have psychic, surf, thunderbolt and ice beam. On the physical, you have aeroblast, Earthquake, shadow ball, and a filler.

Lv 30 @ Dragon Fang
Waterfall
Surf
Dragon Rage
Whirlpool
Gyara was nerfed in GSC. Please discard unless you like Return and Surf or something. OR use as an HM Slave.

Lv 48 Swift
Quick Attack
Flame Wheel
Ember
1 Fire move (Flamethrower), one electric move (thunderpunch) and one ground move (Earthquake) is good for its principal moves. For the final move, go with Sunny Day @Leftovers to screw over waters, or Rest @Chesto to not screw over your waters.

I just restarted Silver so any changes will be able to be made. Moves with an * I am unsure of but my best guess is there. I'm assuming leftovers for all unless a better alternative is there.

Houndoom
~Sunny Day
~Solar Beam
~Flamethrower
~Crunch
This looks good. KEep as far away from you lapras as possible.

Lapras
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Confuse Ray
~Double Team*
--I want to keep her in there a long time, so I thought Double Team would keep her alive, any other defensive possibility?
Rest is good instead of Double Team. So is thunderbolt, if you can get it.

Exeggutor
~Psychic
~Giga Drain
~Leech Seed*
~Sleep Powder*
--What is the best way to keep him alive or should the slots be offensive?
This is actually good.

Snorlax
~Rest
~Earthquake
~Body Slam
~UH...
--I'm paranoid about losing turns to sleep but he can survive, right?
Of course he can. He'll survive better if he has curse for the last spot.

Ampharos
~Thunderpunch
~Fire Punch
~Thunder Wave
~Attract
--I don't have Crystal and is that how she gets T-Bolt?
You could breed with Pikachu/Raichu.

Tyranitar
~Earthquake
~Rock Slide
~Crunch
~Return
If you can, HP Flying > Return, but that HP Flying best have a base power more than 60. Your good otherwise.

Looks good overall. You read the moveset guides, thank you!

Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:55 pm

SneaselOfDeath

Bug Catcher

Joined: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:20 pmPosts: 9

can you recommend any better movesets for these guys please?

shellder lvl 40:

tackle
protect
surf
aurora beam

(im going to evolve it when learns ice beam at lvl 50)

kadabra lvl 38:

recover
thunderpunch
future sight
psychic

magneton lvl 37:

tri attack
thundershock
lock-on
sonicboom

feraligatr lvl 36:

cut (i know, i should replace with slash)
leer
bite
surf

arcanine lvl 36:

bite
flame wheel (does it learn flamethrower?)
ember
leer

fearow lvl 36:

fly ( i will replace with drill peck when it learns it)
pursuit
leer
fury attack

Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:59 pm

Peanut-Lover

Site Administrator

Joined: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:32 amPosts: 1917Location: Brooklyn, NY

OMG, a team to rate

SneaselOfDeath wrote:

can you recommend any better movesets for these guys please?

shellder lvl 40:

tackle
protect
surf
aurora beam

(im going to evolve it when learns ice beam at lvl 50)

Typically, I only rate finished versions, but teams in general are rare. Explosion is a solid move if you can get it from RBY (unlikely here though). Honestly, though - why not get lapras? You'll get the same Surf and Ice beam, plus the choices of thunderbolt through RBY/Crystal tutor, Rest to make it a god at tanking, Confuse Ray for status, and perish song for the things that refuse to die.

kadabra lvl 38:

recover
thunderpunch
future sight
psychic
And here is where $$ comes in handy - ice punch or fire punch > future site. Recover is good for the staying alive.

cut (i know, i should replace with slash)
leer
bite
surf
No. You have a better water regardless, but his best moveset is Surf, Ice Beam, Crunch, and Rock Slide/Earthquake.

arcanine lvl 36:

bite
flame wheel (does it learn flamethrower?)
ember
leer
Actually, it does get flamethrower - crystal tutor. If you can't, use fire blast. It gets another decent move in crunch, and extreme speed is cool. Seeing as you have nothing much better, might as well go with curse. But keep in mind - there are other fires that can do better (ie, typhlosion and magmar with thunderpunch (the latter also gets a fighting move for rocks)

Seriously, Lapras outclasses Cloyster in all ways, in my opinion. Suicune > Feraligatr in terms of stats (plus, you have another water anyway). Fearow is 99% of the time outclassed by Dodrio. Arcanine should be changed, but thats your choice - the replacements all get much better movepool, but Arcanine gets Crunch and Extremespeed - not something you see with most fire types (in terms of versatility, except lolsunnybeamers). In fact, I recommend no fire types, and instead use a Rhydon or Golem (or even a fighting type like Machamp, Hitmonlee, and heracross. The elctric type is up to you - Magneton is just starved to death in terms of a movepool, especially compared to other electrics - Thunderbolt, Thunderwave, HP Ice/Grass is what every electric has. Electabuzz gets Ice punch and cross chop, both of which hit hard on everything. Zapdos is immune to Earthquake, gets Drill Peck (which is cool for grassers), so it can focus on hp grass (golem, rhydon, quagsire). Raikou gets something that most electrics can't claim - decent defenses to survive most (if not all) Earthquakes. It also gets an electric move that has better paralysis chances in spark - so it can spark, crunch, and rest-talk (or something else).

Please don't suggest legendaries. I know they kick ass but I like doing it w/o them.
lol, most don't use the legends - they either suck (articuno, moltres, entei) or are so overpowered they fail to demonstrate creativity (Lugia, Ho-Oh, Mew, Mewtwo, Celibi).

I recently restarted my old Gold, and this is the team I'm running with:

Raikou/Lefties
~Roar
~Toxic
~Thunderbolt
~Crunch

My leader, toxics through my opponent's team as quick as he can. Can hold his own though, but Grounds and fightings will do Bad Things.

Lapras/Lefties
~Sing/Confuse Ray (Which?)
~Body Slam
~Surf
~Ice Beam

I'm trying to find a Crystal so I can throw T-Bolt on him, but, if I do, what move should it replace?

Alakazam/Lefties
~Psychic
~Recover
~Elemental Punch
~Elemental Punch

I'm currently running with Fire and Electric punch for the truckload of Starmies/Exeggcutors/Slowbros I see. Is another combo of punches better?

Machamp/Black Belt
~Cross Chop
~Earthquake
~Ice Punch
~Rest

I keep the Black Belt around for the Blissey spam, with happy OHKOs. Otherwise, a mint berry for the Rest. Ice punch is on there in case my Lapras goes down- he can stall long enough to kill the Dragon/Flying Legendary until I bring Raikou in.

Mobius - thank you for using Psypoke's GSC Rating Center. Because I am too tired to quote, I will merely comment on the team.

Raikou - good work with T-bolt and Crunch. Roar and Toxic pray on his frailty - best when leaving those two moves to somethng a bit more sturdy like.. skarmory. Now, for the other two moves - he doesn't have much of a movepool, but he has trump cards - Rest and Sleep Talk. He won't be affected by status, and he has a super cool way of keeping the HP high. Alternatively, you can go with Reflect and a special hidden power (Grass or Ice is best).

Lapras - I prefer if you lead off with this, and use sing off the bat. Or, leave him in until later to soak up attacks, and leave confuse ray. Now, thunderbolt > body slam would be nice, but it isn't necessary. What you might want instead of body slam (if you can't get T-bolt) is Rest, to increase his tanking skills.

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