Inexpensive Wolf Alternative: 7.62X39

Howdy, folks. You may have seen my post about the same question for 7.62x54R and if not, here it is again. (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=280913&highlight=wolf+steel+7.62x54)

I in about a year, I'm most likely buying a gun or 2 in 7.62x39, more than likely an SKS or 2 and an AK-47 (out of state active duty assault weapon permit). If I take them to that range, I'll have the same magnet problems. I'll either be a Cpl or Sgt, but I have a wife and 2 kids in diapers so money will still be short. What do you recomend for an inexpensive wolf alternative? Oh, and please don't say find a new range. It won't work, trust me.

**ETA** I looked at the links in the previous post and it's all steel cased except the 2 Privi Partisan on http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/copy_of_7_62x39.html

there isn't one unless ya start loading your own and in a year or so......... Wolf won't be cheap either

Jason_G

June 14, 2007, 01:06 AM

Maybe Fiocchi. I think they use brass cases.
Here's one place that sells it (they have a pistol ammo pic up, but it should be the correct link):
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/39277-54894-258.html
Probably the next cheapest would be Sellier & Bellot from Czhecko... I give up but you know where.

Jason

kcmarine

June 14, 2007, 01:19 AM

Don't know, sorry man.:(

SATX man

June 14, 2007, 12:10 PM

I dont know if this is what your looking for I use Barnaul ammo here is a link.
http://www.wideners.com/itemview.cfm?dir=18|477

crazed_ss

June 14, 2007, 12:59 PM

Howdy, folks. You may have seen my post about the same question for 7.62x54R and if not, here it is again.

I in about a year, I'm most likely buying a gun or 2 in 7.62x39, more than likely an SKS or 2 and an AK-47 (out of state active duty assault weapon permit). If I take them to that range, I'll have the same magnet problems. I'll either be a Cpl or Sgt, but I have a wife and 2 kids in diapers so money will still be short. What do you recomend for an inexpensive wolf alternative? Oh, and please don't say find a new range. It won't work, trust me.

**ETA** I looked at the links in the previous post and it's all steel cased except the 2 Privi Partisan on http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/copy_of_7_62x39.html

Are you stationed at Camp Pendleton or Miramar? Are you shooting at Iron Sights or American Shooting Center?

Most ranges around here wont allow Wolf at all. I shoot rifles at American Shooting Center in San Diego and doing so is a very EXPENSIVE endeavour. There is a range out in El Cajon that allows Wolf. It's kind of a drive, but here it is.. http://www.project2000range.com/

I plan on ordering some of that Privi 7.62 from AIM. That is a pretty good price. Wal-Mart charges almost 25 bucks for 40 rounds of Winchester White Box 7.62x39.

Prince Yamato

June 14, 2007, 01:36 PM

Can I ask, why can't you shoot steel ammo? It's not the same as steel core, right?

rdhood

June 14, 2007, 01:40 PM

Get the Privi Partisan. When you get through shooting them, reload your brass (will cost to reload about the same as Wolf .... $150 per thousand rounds).

Aaryq

June 14, 2007, 02:20 PM

I'm in Pendleton. El Cajon is way too far out of the way for me. I'd spend more on gas than I'd save on ammo, even if I did get into reloading.

DMK

June 14, 2007, 02:25 PM

Can I ask, why can't you shoot steel ammo? It's not the same as steel core, right?Some ranges test ammo with a magnet. The steel case attracts the magnet and confuses the ignorant.

Southern california is a really dry and makes for one helluva big tinderbox. apparently steel stuff can start fires

Gewehr98

June 14, 2007, 02:36 PM

They collect it, sort it, and then sell it to commercial reloaders or scrap metal businesses.

Steel-cased empty Wolf/Norinco stuff results in extra time and effort to weed out, requiring at least a magnet and time to separate. Working at a privately-owned, publically-accessed outdoor range, I didn't like the steel cases littering the facility. That speaks more to the sloth of the shooters, who could just as easily picked up after themselves. Regardless, the brass empties on the ground got picked up fairly quick by reloaders, bless their hearts.

As for steel-cored and steel-jacketed surplus ammo, many indoor ranges don't like what it does to their backstops, and outdoor ranges don't like the potential to spark grass fires. I've witnessed one range fire started by steel-cored surplus ammo, and had to explain to patrons why the range was closed and why there was smoke coming from downrange where the firemen were. ;)

Can I ask, why can't you shoot steel ammo? It's not the same as steel core, right?

Ofetn times the range reloads, recycles or sells the brass, normally those ranges ban aluminum cased ammo too, but the magnet test doesn't work, so they go by sight. Also most steel cased ammo has steel jacketed bullets with a copper or zinc wash, that tends to be ever so slightly more prone to riccochet or sparking, some of the S&B ammo has brass cases, but steel jacketed bullets, Im sure the range won't bother to clarify what the magnet can or can't stick to. And the range may be in the know, but their insurance company or backstop manufacturer may sometimes stipulate "no ammunition/projectile containing steel may be used", so more or less they as a buisness see no need to allow steel cased ammo as there are no benefits to them, and a few risks, mostly from pen pushing insurance brokers, upset ammo remanufaturers, and angry metal recylers.

kcmarine

June 14, 2007, 02:52 PM

Also, some outdoor ranges that implement a rubber on steel construction method (such as Parma Woods in Kansas City) can be damaged by steel cored/ jacketed ammunition. The bullets punch right through the rubber material and go through the steel beams. They are also a ricochet risk on these ranges in the case that they don't penetrate the steel and deflect. Parma uses these steel beams to support the concrete walls of the range, and the damage can be very expensive and time- consuming to repair. That's why they don't want you using steel ammo at my range, at least.