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Re: Bleach 516 Discussion / 517 Predictions

Originally Posted by bleach fan 101

it actually says they can be fixed but aren't as powerful as before the break

Haha, my bad.
I should have said they can't be fixed back to the way they were before.

But it is still a scary thing.
One would have thought that this should be common knowledge among Shinigami but I guess it has never come up since it doesn't seem like Captains and other Bankai users would be using their Bankais frequently...

Re: Bleach 516 Discussion / 517 Predictions

What would the Zero Squad have to fear from Aizen though. I don't see why they wouldn't release him. He's definitely a war potential and asset, plus he's no threat to the zero squad. We can assume since most of them have been in the kings realm all of this time, the only one who MAY have even seen his shikai would be Hikifune. The others have probably never seen his shikai and if they're all as strong as the combined Gotei 13 (of which Aizen was a part of), then it stands to reason that they could probably wtfpwn Aizen as well. We can just assume that these are five Yamamotos standing before us who even Aizen feared to a degree.

Re: Bleach 516 Discussion / 517 Predictions

They are stronger than the gotei 13, not as strong. Aizen would be too big a variable but if they are desperate enough they might release him. But he's only useful if he has powers which also makes him very dangerous.

Re: Bleach 516 Discussion / 517 Predictions

Originally Posted by NoOneInParticular

I was just having a re-read... So on the first page, I assume that's someone from Zero Division talking, right? So is that the Royal Realm behind them? If so, it looks a lot like the rest of Soul Society. There are a lot of buildings - who occupies them, I wonder? Zero Division only has 5 members, so who else would be living there with the King? His family? A court of nobles, maybe?

And another thing, Sereitei is looking in rather good shape on that page where we see the Captains gathered. Even if this is days after the attack, that doesn't really make sense, given the level of destruction the Vandenreich caused. I mean, they literally razed the whole place to the ground. It's not really important, I'mjust wondering if that's an oversight.

yeah,it was Chang talking, the bearded guy leader of the RGs. Kyoraku just told ichigo not to call the royal guards "captains" but in the first page Chang calls them "officers"

Re: Bleach 516 Discussion / 517 Predictions

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What would the Zero Squad have to fear from Aizen though. I don't see why they wouldn't release him. He's definitely a war potential and asset, plus he's no threat to the zero squad. We can assume since most of them have been in the kings realm all of this time, the only one who MAY have even seen his shikai would be Hikifune. The others have probably never seen his shikai and if they're all as strong as the combined Gotei 13 (of which Aizen was a part of), then it stands to reason that they could probably wtfpwn Aizen as well. We can just assume that these are five Yamamotos standing before us who even Aizen feared to a degree.

I can actually see it coming, the release of aizen, to give us a plot reason to show off the zero squads fearsome power, since they trash aizen shortly afterwards, because he tries to escape/double cross them

Re: Bleach 516 Discussion / 517 Predictions

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What would the Zero Squad have to fear from Aizen though. I don't see why they wouldn't release him. He's definitely a war potential and asset, plus he's no threat to the zero squad. We can assume since most of them have been in the kings realm all of this time, the only one who MAY have even seen his shikai would be Hikifune. The others have probably never seen his shikai and if they're all as strong as the combined Gotei 13 (of which Aizen was a part of), then it stands to reason that they could probably wtfpwn Aizen as well. We can just assume that these are five Yamamotos standing before us who even Aizen feared to a degree.

Are you serious? Dont you remember that aizen himself trashed everyone besides Yama,
No zero squad member alone can or will defeat aizen ever. i bet these guys are also going to get trashed by Buck beard and Haswald just as easy as aizen trashed the vizards.
I believe the key members to this war are, Ryuuken,Ichigo,Ishida,Aizen,Isshin,Urahara.

Re: Bleach 516 Discussion / 517 Predictions

yeah,it was Chang talking, the bearded guy leader of the RGs. Kyoraku just told ichigo not to call the royal guards "captains" but in the first page Chang calls them "officers"

That's what I thought. So from the little glimpse we caught of the Royal Realm, it's not that distinct from Seireitei in appearance. I'd always imagined it would just be the Royal Palace floating in some empty dimension, similar to the Vandenreich's palace, but it seems to encompass an entire town or city. Who are it's residents, then? Maybe retired Captains move there and live as nobility.

The thing with Aizen was that most of them were already nder the power of Aizen so it was an easy win for him. Plus they were also weakened by fighting the Arrancars, so you can't really say that they would be trashed by Aizen. Aizen had planned for everything and knew all the outcomes, it was only Ichigo who wasn't under his power was able to beat him other wise they all were royally screwed.

Re: Bleach 516 Discussion / 517 Predictions

I wonder how ichigo's inner spirits would be affected by his bankai being physically broken. Using bankai has been shown to actually result in a physical change in the zampakuto spirit so wouldn't be so strange if breaking bankai would actually maim the spirit directly which would be the main reason for the loss in power bankai seems to experience after being broken. So if the spirit itself is what is being maimed when bankai breaks, how would it affect the relationship between zangetsu and shirosaki? Shirosaki would have hypothetically gotten stronger when ichigo learned fullbring. So the scenario would be that zangetsu got weaker because of broken bankai and shirosaki got stronger because of fullbring. I also wonder if ichigo will acquire a third persona for his quincy powers. It wouldn't be so strange at this point although I would prefer if everything was limited to zangetsu and shirosaki.

Re: Bleach 516 Discussion / 517 Predictions

Originally Posted by bleach fan 101

it actually says they can be fixed but aren't as powerful as before the break

Didn't it actually say that that they can never be returned to its former state? Mayuri said that he didn't repair his, but instead he modified it, and his Bankai doesn't seem to have weakened. So Ichigo's Bankai can still be as powerful as it was before, but it will have to be modified/altered into a new power that is somehow different enough to escape this weird plot restriction Kubo is forcing on us. Mayuri seems to be lucky in regards to this whole broken Bankai thing since apparently all he has to do is change what kind of poison it emits and he's good to go, but I wonder what kind of change Zangetsu will have to undergo, I hope its not something silly like changing the color of Getsuga Tenshos or something like that.