Dear CSX-
The Double Deckers are the only MBTA coaches with trash recepticles anyway!. Those of us that are in the Rail Passenger business support and understand the security measures, minor as they may seem. We have attended training and breifing sessions that would open your eyes also!

Claytor, that is not true. The 500's and 1500's both have trash receptacles in the bathrooms.

Also, the MBTA will not blame themselves for the trash all over the coaches, they WILL BLAME US. Well, we are obviously obligated to haul our trash around with us until we get home, or to work. With all the removed trashbarrels, littering is also going thru the roof.

Besides, keep in mind these people are heartless, cold -blooded sick twisted animals. They don't need trashbarrels, they use themselves to hide the bombs, then blow themselves up. And for what????

ST214 wrote:Besides, keep in mind these people are heartless, cold -blooded sick twisted animals. They don't need trashbarrels, they use themselves to hide the bombs, then blow themselves up. And for what????

That alone makes the whole situation downright stupid. punish the many for the threats of a few. What's next, removing bathrooms from trains becaue they could hide thm in there?

That is exactly what I was saying before ST, sealing the trash barrels off will not deter them from leaving a bomb or anything else, they'll just stuff it under a seat, or in one of the traps of a coach etc...

CSX Conductor wrote:That is exactly what I was saying before ST, sealing the trash barrels off will not deter them from leaving a bomb or anything else, they'll just stuff it under a seat, or in one of the traps of a coach etc...

Didn't mean to copy what you said, didn't see your reply. What you said is right on the money though.

Meanwhile I still see Conductors or Asst. Conductors sitting in the rear control car during the rush hour............because the trains are overcrowded and they feel it would be too difficult to collect fares. LOL.

Let's get our priorities straight here but correcting minor problems like this. I agree many trains are overcrowded lately, but at the same time there are cars out of service due to tight budgets etc............well, make better attempts to collect the revenue which could be used towards coach repairs and or maintanence, which in turn would mean less standees on the trains, in turn making it easier for my fello railroaders to do their jobs!!

How about the car shortage? Instead of spending all this money on "How to pick out a terrorist boarding your train-101" classes, put the money towards maintenance for the passengers who are paying for the service. Because if the inoperative air conditioning and over-crowding due to cars out of service etc continues....many passengers will stop riding the T which would be aother loss in revenue!

Freedom unfortunately requires a degree of risk.
Yet most Americans believe you can have safety and still be 100% free. This is not true. Freedom comes at a price. Politicians will tell you otherwise, afterall, that is what the majority of Americans want to hear. It borders between being naive and ignorant.

Restricting our freedoms and trying to create a police state is exactly the goal is of terrorism. We must learn to live with risk if we are to remain free. We cannot continue down this path. To do so means only those in power win because eventually a police state could exist.

They (politicians) are willing to take my camera and thus my fundamental freedom to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" but the majority of them won't dare try to take my gun. Maybe its because guns have a lobby (no problem there, that's democrcacy). Its time freedom has a lobby too, and its called going on with life.

Finally - our forefathers once tangled with the same question. Though in a different context. For those who truly understand this nation's history. (And most people don't anymore) There was a thing called the "French & Indian War." The colonists asked England at the time to supply troops to protect us (see "Safety") from the French and their Native-American allies. England gladly helped out. But there was a high cost - so England started to tax the colonists on everything and gave them no voice in Parliament or with the King. This taxation without representation was a form of lost freedom. Hence we then had the Revolution.

We can never be safe if we want to remain free. We just need to be prepared to deal with whatever happens.