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"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"

That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.

Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.

You can read it how you like, can't see a communication problem with the players who did a great job even with a thin squad..
As you,raised your head Arnie ,,
1) how many centre backs do we now need ? You stated OG had plans if we lost two to injury? I think you said Calderon would play there! That statement you made was a disaster in reality, dunk and ward were dragged all over the place!
2) TB would say there was a problem , he is not going to say we handled it badly, and are not about to change the set up!
3) are you confident the new manager will move the players around like chess pieces ! Another farcical statement when we could not live with Derby.
4) Leicester to bid 7 million for ulloa as I stated 3 months ago ( I think you said that was in my head too! Lol)
Can you assess your statement in November where you were confident that CMS and Hoskins would play a massive part in this season!
5) you told us all augustin would come good? When exactly is this going to happen?
Basically Arnie you play to the website backing the Albion to the hilt without a clue really what is going on..
For those that may say I am wrong! What would be our assessment if this farce was happening at palace, total mismanagement , let's not forget FFP will be our saviour ! You hang on every word from DB as though he knows something special.. Clubs will challenge that rule and it won't happen.
You cannot enforce a illegal agreement even if it's signed by all parties.
What the league want is to say how a company is run! Watch the challenges hit the fan this summer.

(1) We would have been fine with two defenders out injured. We had three defenders out injured so Calde had to cover right-back. Three is always going to be hard to manage, if only because you will never have four CB all good enough for the Champ if two are always going to be on the bench.
(2) Not a question
(3) Yes, the new manager may well move the players around like chess pieces. Or he may insist they never move more than five yards from their given position. Not sure of you point here? We could not live with Derby because they were playing very well and we had three defenders missing (see above).
(4) You're claiming something now you claimed three months ago, both times unverified. We can all continue to claim things, but unless it happens I'm not sure of your point. Will not comment unless it actually happens.
(4b) Hoskins didn't play, granted, but was it not CMS's last gasp cross that got us into the play-offs? If that's not "massive" then let me know what you think is.
(5) With a new manager Agustien may still well become good. It seems the problem between him and OG was personal as reports are that he's as fit as a butcher's dog right now. The difference is I offer my opinions as opinions, you generally offer yours as absolute facts.

Also: I never hang on anything DB says as AFAICT he rarely ever says anything in public. Do you actually mean TB? In which case yes, I am more inclined to believe him than you. And before you get on your high horse about being singled out, I will believe him more than many people on this website who have absolutely no insight whatsoever.

You have your opinion on FFP and I have mine, but think on this: if the Football League renege on the rules they open themselves up to lawsuits from those clubs which inhibited their dealings in order to comply. If you're going to get sued anyway, why go against your own plans, plans which are designed to stop clubs folding? The clubs are already being told how to run their clubs - that's what the rules of association are. If they don't like it they can always withdraw from competition.

Final thought: I may indeed back the club (truly amazing, it's ALMOST like I'm a real supporter!) but you do quite the opposite and always look on the downside - as many on here have accused you of recently. Which of us enjoys being a fan more - you with your constant negativity, or me with my positive outlook? It's not you.

Feel free to respond, but this thread is dead to me now and all future posts of yours will be ignored as I do with all the other trolls and WUMs who try to kick things off.

[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote:
"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"
That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.
Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.[/p][/quote]You can read it how you like, can't see a communication problem with the players who did a great job even with a thin squad..
As you,raised your head Arnie ,,
1) how many centre backs do we now need ? You stated OG had plans if we lost two to injury? I think you said Calderon would play there! That statement you made was a disaster in reality, dunk and ward were dragged all over the place!
2) TB would say there was a problem , he is not going to say we handled it badly, and are not about to change the set up!
3) are you confident the new manager will move the players around like chess pieces ! Another farcical statement when we could not live with Derby.
4) Leicester to bid 7 million for ulloa as I stated 3 months ago ( I think you said that was in my head too! Lol)
Can you assess your statement in November where you were confident that CMS and Hoskins would play a massive part in this season!
5) you told us all augustin would come good? When exactly is this going to happen?
Basically Arnie you play to the website backing the Albion to the hilt without a clue really what is going on..
For those that may say I am wrong! What would be our assessment if this farce was happening at palace, total mismanagement , let's not forget FFP will be our saviour ! You hang on every word from DB as though he knows something special.. Clubs will challenge that rule and it won't happen.
You cannot enforce a illegal agreement even if it's signed by all parties.
What the league want is to say how a company is run! Watch the challenges hit the fan this summer.[/p][/quote](1) We would have been fine with two defenders out injured. We had three defenders out injured so Calde had to cover right-back. Three is always going to be hard to manage, if only because you will never have four CB all good enough for the Champ if two are always going to be on the bench.
(2) Not a question
(3) Yes, the new manager may well move the players around like chess pieces. Or he may insist they never move more than five yards from their given position. Not sure of you point here? We could not live with Derby because they were playing very well and we had three defenders missing (see above).
(4) You're claiming something now you claimed three months ago, both times unverified. We can all continue to claim things, but unless it happens I'm not sure of your point. Will not comment unless it actually happens.
(4b) Hoskins didn't play, granted, but was it not CMS's last gasp cross that got us into the play-offs? If that's not "massive" then let me know what you think is.
(5) With a new manager Agustien may still well become good. It seems the problem between him and OG was personal as reports are that he's as fit as a butcher's dog right now. The difference is I offer my opinions as opinions, you generally offer yours as absolute facts.
Also: I never hang on anything DB says as AFAICT he rarely ever says anything in public. Do you actually mean TB? In which case yes, I am more inclined to believe him than you. And before you get on your high horse about being singled out, I will believe him more than many people on this website who have absolutely no insight whatsoever.
You have your opinion on FFP and I have mine, but think on this: if the Football League renege on the rules they open themselves up to lawsuits from those clubs which inhibited their dealings in order to comply. If you're going to get sued anyway, why go against your own plans, plans which are designed to stop clubs folding? The clubs are already being told how to run their clubs - that's what the rules of association are. If they don't like it they can always withdraw from competition.
Final thought: I may indeed back the club (truly amazing, it's ALMOST like I'm a real supporter!) but you do quite the opposite and always look on the downside - as many on here have accused you of recently. Which of us enjoys being a fan more - you with your constant negativity, or me with my positive outlook? It's not you.
Feel free to respond, but this thread is dead to me now and all future posts of yours will be ignored as I do with all the other trolls and WUMs who try to kick things off.Ex-pat Arnie

mark by the sea wrote…

Ex-pat Arnie wrote…

"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"

That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.

Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.

You can read it how you like, can't see a communication problem with the players who did a great job even with a thin squad..
As you,raised your head Arnie ,,
1) how many centre backs do we now need ? You stated OG had plans if we lost two to injury? I think you said Calderon would play there! That statement you made was a disaster in reality, dunk and ward were dragged all over the place!
2) TB would say there was a problem , he is not going to say we handled it badly, and are not about to change the set up!
3) are you confident the new manager will move the players around like chess pieces ! Another farcical statement when we could not live with Derby.
4) Leicester to bid 7 million for ulloa as I stated 3 months ago ( I think you said that was in my head too! Lol)
Can you assess your statement in November where you were confident that CMS and Hoskins would play a massive part in this season!
5) you told us all augustin would come good? When exactly is this going to happen?
Basically Arnie you play to the website backing the Albion to the hilt without a clue really what is going on..
For those that may say I am wrong! What would be our assessment if this farce was happening at palace, total mismanagement , let's not forget FFP will be our saviour ! You hang on every word from DB as though he knows something special.. Clubs will challenge that rule and it won't happen.
You cannot enforce a illegal agreement even if it's signed by all parties.
What the league want is to say how a company is run! Watch the challenges hit the fan this summer.

(1) We would have been fine with two defenders out injured. We had three defenders out injured so Calde had to cover right-back. Three is always going to be hard to manage, if only because you will never have four CB all good enough for the Champ if two are always going to be on the bench.
(2) Not a question
(3) Yes, the new manager may well move the players around like chess pieces. Or he may insist they never move more than five yards from their given position. Not sure of you point here? We could not live with Derby because they were playing very well and we had three defenders missing (see above).
(4) You're claiming something now you claimed three months ago, both times unverified. We can all continue to claim things, but unless it happens I'm not sure of your point. Will not comment unless it actually happens.
(4b) Hoskins didn't play, granted, but was it not CMS's last gasp cross that got us into the play-offs? If that's not "massive" then let me know what you think is.
(5) With a new manager Agustien may still well become good. It seems the problem between him and OG was personal as reports are that he's as fit as a butcher's dog right now. The difference is I offer my opinions as opinions, you generally offer yours as absolute facts.

Also: I never hang on anything DB says as AFAICT he rarely ever says anything in public. Do you actually mean TB? In which case yes, I am more inclined to believe him than you. And before you get on your high horse about being singled out, I will believe him more than many people on this website who have absolutely no insight whatsoever.

You have your opinion on FFP and I have mine, but think on this: if the Football League renege on the rules they open themselves up to lawsuits from those clubs which inhibited their dealings in order to comply. If you're going to get sued anyway, why go against your own plans, plans which are designed to stop clubs folding? The clubs are already being told how to run their clubs - that's what the rules of association are. If they don't like it they can always withdraw from competition.

Final thought: I may indeed back the club (truly amazing, it's ALMOST like I'm a real supporter!) but you do quite the opposite and always look on the downside - as many on here have accused you of recently. Which of us enjoys being a fan more - you with your constant negativity, or me with my positive outlook? It's not you.

Feel free to respond, but this thread is dead to me now and all future posts of yours will be ignored as I do with all the other trolls and WUMs who try to kick things off.

Score: 1

gilbertthecat
2:12pm Thu 15 May 14

VegasSeagull wrote…

CantUseNSCatWork wrote…

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.

Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.

Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.

Maybe the answer is in potential sell on value. WB is still in contract so worth something to us from another club. Sure there were one or two PL sides sniffing around in January. AO was out of contract so effectively worth sod all at this particular point in time.

[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]CantUseNSCatWork[/bold] wrote:
Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.
Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.[/p][/quote]Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.[/p][/quote]Maybe the answer is in potential sell on value. WB is still in contract so worth something to us from another club. Sure there were one or two PL sides sniffing around in January. AO was out of contract so effectively worth sod all at this particular point in time.gilbertthecat

VegasSeagull wrote…

CantUseNSCatWork wrote…

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.

Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.

Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.

Maybe the answer is in potential sell on value. WB is still in contract so worth something to us from another club. Sure there were one or two PL sides sniffing around in January. AO was out of contract so effectively worth sod all at this particular point in time.

Score: 2

namgo49
6:12am Thu 15 May 14

Joe Cole should fit in well along side Kemy, another sick note!

Joe Cole should fit in well along side Kemy, another sick note!namgo49

Joe Cole should fit in well along side Kemy, another sick note!

Score: 4

Alfie T
6:45am Thu 15 May 14

mark by the sea wrote…

VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?

Everyone's got their price Mark, perhaps the Albions tippy tappy style on the pitch was mirrored off of it ith Grabban. In defence of Vegas Grabban did get himself a better deal, and now with Cardiff, probably doubled his salary.

[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?[/p][/quote]Everyone's got their price Mark, perhaps the Albions tippy tappy style on the pitch was mirrored off of it ith Grabban. In defence of Vegas Grabban did get himself a better deal, and now with Cardiff, probably doubled his salary.Alfie T

mark by the sea wrote…

VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?

Everyone's got their price Mark, perhaps the Albions tippy tappy style on the pitch was mirrored off of it ith Grabban. In defence of Vegas Grabban did get himself a better deal, and now with Cardiff, probably doubled his salary.

Score: 8

Eddy B
6:44am Thu 15 May 14

Good point about Van Dyke Mark... i think alot of issues behind the scenes began there and their momentum has contiued to thwart us in making key signings such as Grabban and Conway.

Am also surprised about Orlandi, one of our more creative players. But we were all surprised about David last summer and the Board actually turned out to be right about him. I expect TK wanted to leave anyway so can see reasons for that. Hoskins has looked good in his brief appearances but maybe his injury history is too much of a risk. We will see if he becomes a hit elsewhere or disappears. You could have put Buckley in that category too - one of our best players but now continually blighted by injury (hopefully the medical staff can see a way forward for his persistent hamstring issues).

Good point about Van Dyke Mark... i think alot of issues behind the scenes began there and their momentum has contiued to thwart us in making key signings such as Grabban and Conway.
Am also surprised about Orlandi, one of our more creative players. But we were all surprised about David last summer and the Board actually turned out to be right about him. I expect TK wanted to leave anyway so can see reasons for that. Hoskins has looked good in his brief appearances but maybe his injury history is too much of a risk. We will see if he becomes a hit elsewhere or disappears. You could have put Buckley in that category too - one of our best players but now continually blighted by injury (hopefully the medical staff can see a way forward for his persistent hamstring issues).Eddy B

Good point about Van Dyke Mark... i think alot of issues behind the scenes began there and their momentum has contiued to thwart us in making key signings such as Grabban and Conway.

Am also surprised about Orlandi, one of our more creative players. But we were all surprised about David last summer and the Board actually turned out to be right about him. I expect TK wanted to leave anyway so can see reasons for that. Hoskins has looked good in his brief appearances but maybe his injury history is too much of a risk. We will see if he becomes a hit elsewhere or disappears. You could have put Buckley in that category too - one of our best players but now continually blighted by injury (hopefully the medical staff can see a way forward for his persistent hamstring issues).

Score: 5

twonk
5:48am Thu 15 May 14

You can't sign a player that had a couple of good games a season.

You can't sign a player that had a couple of good games a season.twonk

You can't sign a player that had a couple of good games a season.

Score: 3

mark by the sea
5:56am Thu 15 May 14

If last season was his best then it's best for him to leave, clearly the grass hopper player looks close, as does Joe Cole joining.. I sincerely hope the few offered new deals will accept..
As for Hoskins , lad has been here 3 years played a dozen games and scored a couple.. Received wages over 1 million , we supported him for 12 months when injured, we could have shown him the door and saved 300k last summer. But club needs every penny now to build a squad.
The new manager will be on a hiding to nothing if we struggle along in mid table playing tippy tap, with DADS army in defence.

If last season was his best then it's best for him to leave, clearly the grass hopper player looks close, as does Joe Cole joining.. I sincerely hope the few offered new deals will accept..
As for Hoskins , lad has been here 3 years played a dozen games and scored a couple.. Received wages over 1 million , we supported him for 12 months when injured, we could have shown him the door and saved 300k last summer. But club needs every penny now to build a squad.
The new manager will be on a hiding to nothing if we struggle along in mid table playing tippy tap, with DADS army in defence.mark by the sea

If last season was his best then it's best for him to leave, clearly the grass hopper player looks close, as does Joe Cole joining.. I sincerely hope the few offered new deals will accept..
As for Hoskins , lad has been here 3 years played a dozen games and scored a couple.. Received wages over 1 million , we supported him for 12 months when injured, we could have shown him the door and saved 300k last summer. But club needs every penny now to build a squad.
The new manager will be on a hiding to nothing if we struggle along in mid table playing tippy tap, with DADS army in defence.

Score: -2

namgo49
6:06am Thu 15 May 14

Orlandi was a class player and should have been given the chance to prove himself fitness wise. Disappointed with the Club. I hope to hell they have got a decent goalkeeper lined up also!!!

Orlandi was a class player and should have been given the chance to prove himself fitness wise. Disappointed with the Club. I hope to hell they have got a decent goalkeeper lined up also!!!namgo49

Orlandi was a class player and should have been given the chance to prove himself fitness wise. Disappointed with the Club. I hope to hell they have got a decent goalkeeper lined up also!!!

Score: 22

namgo49
6:19am Thu 15 May 14

Off story, I see Grabban is off to Cardiff for £3 mill. Bournemouth seem to know what they are about unlike the Brighton Burke!

Off story, I see Grabban is off to Cardiff for £3 mill. Bournemouth seem to know what they are about unlike the Brighton Burke!namgo49

Off story, I see Grabban is off to Cardiff for £3 mill. Bournemouth seem to know what they are about unlike the Brighton Burke!

Score: 6

mark by the sea
6:22am Thu 15 May 14

Clearly Grabban wanted to leave Bournemouth , but we did not do enough to convince him , Bournemouth upped there offer and he stayed,
The same question has to asked about Barnes , Conway , and van dyke , plus the guy who joined millwall ... Are we pushing the boat out for signing players who we know can deliver ie Conway , and Barnes ?
The two deals for grabban and van dyke were virtually in the bag, grabban stayed for money , Bournemouth just made 2 million extra for being pro active! Had Burke and TB been in charge at Bournemouth would they have countered a fresh offer? Or would we grab the million and plead FFP to the fans? In my opinion the Barnes conway deals were about wages, Conway would never say going to Blackburn was about wages,
I also sense DB is trying to get a name for himself as the bargain driver, TB probably loves his poker face in negotiations..
DB the man who takes agents and there demands on, DB the man who sticks to FFP .. If he is successful doing this , he will be premiership ready lol, and off to a big club,
Fans are not stupid, most can read between the lines , OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem?
Was corporal Jones not there to fulfill that very role? By the fact he is now deciding the shape of the squad say what?
We now move on , I am sad we have DB playing the role of king Canute against the tide of player/ agents demands..
Next 6 months will be a interesting period ,

Clearly Grabban wanted to leave Bournemouth , but we did not do enough to convince him , Bournemouth upped there offer and he stayed,
The same question has to asked about Barnes , Conway , and van dyke , plus the guy who joined millwall ... Are we pushing the boat out for signing players who we know can deliver ie Conway , and Barnes ?
The two deals for grabban and van dyke were virtually in the bag, grabban stayed for money , Bournemouth just made 2 million extra for being pro active! Had Burke and TB been in charge at Bournemouth would they have countered a fresh offer? Or would we grab the million and plead FFP to the fans? In my opinion the Barnes conway deals were about wages, Conway would never say going to Blackburn was about wages,
I also sense DB is trying to get a name for himself as the bargain driver, TB probably loves his poker face in negotiations..
DB the man who takes agents and there demands on, DB the man who sticks to FFP .. If he is successful doing this , he will be premiership ready lol, and off to a big club,
Fans are not stupid, most can read between the lines , OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem?
Was corporal Jones not there to fulfill that very role? By the fact he is now deciding the shape of the squad say what?
We now move on , I am sad we have DB playing the role of king Canute against the tide of player/ agents demands..
Next 6 months will be a interesting period ,mark by the sea

Clearly Grabban wanted to leave Bournemouth , but we did not do enough to convince him , Bournemouth upped there offer and he stayed,
The same question has to asked about Barnes , Conway , and van dyke , plus the guy who joined millwall ... Are we pushing the boat out for signing players who we know can deliver ie Conway , and Barnes ?
The two deals for grabban and van dyke were virtually in the bag, grabban stayed for money , Bournemouth just made 2 million extra for being pro active! Had Burke and TB been in charge at Bournemouth would they have countered a fresh offer? Or would we grab the million and plead FFP to the fans? In my opinion the Barnes conway deals were about wages, Conway would never say going to Blackburn was about wages,
I also sense DB is trying to get a name for himself as the bargain driver, TB probably loves his poker face in negotiations..
DB the man who takes agents and there demands on, DB the man who sticks to FFP .. If he is successful doing this , he will be premiership ready lol, and off to a big club,
Fans are not stupid, most can read between the lines , OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem?
Was corporal Jones not there to fulfill that very role? By the fact he is now deciding the shape of the squad say what?
We now move on , I am sad we have DB playing the role of king Canute against the tide of player/ agents demands..
Next 6 months will be a interesting period ,

Score: 6

mark by the sea
6:35am Thu 15 May 14

VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?

VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?mark by the sea

VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?

Score: 1

Alfie T
6:47am Thu 15 May 14

namgo49 wrote…

Orlandi was a class player and should have been given the chance to prove himself fitness wise. Disappointed with the Club. I hope to hell they have got a decent goalkeeper lined up also!!!

[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote:
Orlandi was a class player and should have been given the chance to prove himself fitness wise. Disappointed with the Club. I hope to hell they have got a decent goalkeeper lined up also!!![/p][/quote]Yes agree, always liked Orlandi, classy player, don't think he will have a problem finding Championship football, or perhaps higher.Alfie T

namgo49 wrote…

Orlandi was a class player and should have been given the chance to prove himself fitness wise. Disappointed with the Club. I hope to hell they have got a decent goalkeeper lined up also!!!

VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?

Everyone's got their price Mark, perhaps the Albions tippy tappy style on the pitch was mirrored off of it ith Grabban. In defence of Vegas Grabban did get himself a better deal, and now with Cardiff, probably doubled his salary.

Yes but at the time Grabban wanted to come, did he meet OG or did he meet DB , guy went on to score 20 odd goals , player of the year, .. I just wonder if our scouts get rubbished by a few on here, but they spotted Conway and Grabban , had both in the grasp of our hands , but could not complete the deal.

[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?[/p][/quote]Everyone's got their price Mark, perhaps the Albions tippy tappy style on the pitch was mirrored off of it ith Grabban. In defence of Vegas Grabban did get himself a better deal, and now with Cardiff, probably doubled his salary.[/p][/quote]Yes but at the time Grabban wanted to come, did he meet OG or did he meet DB , guy went on to score 20 odd goals , player of the year, .. I just wonder if our scouts get rubbished by a few on here, but they spotted Conway and Grabban , had both in the grasp of our hands , but could not complete the deal.mark by the sea

Alfie T wrote…

mark by the sea wrote…

VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?

Everyone's got their price Mark, perhaps the Albions tippy tappy style on the pitch was mirrored off of it ith Grabban. In defence of Vegas Grabban did get himself a better deal, and now with Cardiff, probably doubled his salary.

Yes but at the time Grabban wanted to come, did he meet OG or did he meet DB , guy went on to score 20 odd goals , player of the year, .. I just wonder if our scouts get rubbished by a few on here, but they spotted Conway and Grabban , had both in the grasp of our hands , but could not complete the deal.

Score: 2

elljam
7:06am Thu 15 May 14

twonk wrote…

You can't sign a player that had a couple of good games a season.

Did you not see him play in his first season here twonk ?

I still think there was better to come from him with the right manager & with better movement around him. As for being injury prone as some people are saying, it was only this season. I don't recall him missing many games last season.

[quote][p][bold]twonk[/bold] wrote:
You can't sign a player that had a couple of good games a season.[/p][/quote]Did you not see him play in his first season here twonk ?
I still think there was better to come from him with the right manager & with better movement around him. As for being injury prone as some people are saying, it was only this season. I don't recall him missing many games last season.elljam

twonk wrote…

You can't sign a player that had a couple of good games a season.

Did you not see him play in his first season here twonk ?

I still think there was better to come from him with the right manager & with better movement around him. As for being injury prone as some people are saying, it was only this season. I don't recall him missing many games last season.

Score: 11

B rian Tawses left foot
7:08am Thu 15 May 14

If Sherwood does become the new manager expect one of his first signings to be Brad Freidel. One of TK's bigges6 faults was his kicking - BF kicks go into the opposing penalty area.

If Sherwood does become the new manager expect one of his first signings to be Brad Freidel. One of TK's bigges6 faults was his kicking - BF kicks go into the opposing penalty area.B rian Tawses left foot

If Sherwood does become the new manager expect one of his first signings to be Brad Freidel. One of TK's bigges6 faults was his kicking - BF kicks go into the opposing penalty area.

Score: 6

Alfie T
7:11am Thu 15 May 14

Alfie T wrote…

namgo49 wrote…

Orlandi was a class player and should have been given the chance to prove himself fitness wise. Disappointed with the Club. I hope to hell they have got a decent goalkeeper lined up also!!!

You read a lot of players saying that a particular managers enthusiasm and the way they sell the clubs ambition is a major factor in signing. Can't really see OG doing that somehow, hate to admit it, but think Gus would have got his man.

[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote:
Orlandi was a class player and should have been given the chance to prove himself fitness wise. Disappointed with the Club. I hope to hell they have got a decent goalkeeper lined up also!!![/p][/quote]Yes agree, always liked Orlandi, classy player, don't think he will have a problem finding Championship football, or perhaps higher.[/p][/quote]You read a lot of players saying that a particular managers enthusiasm and the way they sell the clubs ambition is a major factor in signing. Can't really see OG doing that somehow, hate to admit it, but think Gus would have got his man.Alfie T

Alfie T wrote…

namgo49 wrote…

Orlandi was a class player and should have been given the chance to prove himself fitness wise. Disappointed with the Club. I hope to hell they have got a decent goalkeeper lined up also!!!

You read a lot of players saying that a particular managers enthusiasm and the way they sell the clubs ambition is a major factor in signing. Can't really see OG doing that somehow, hate to admit it, but think Gus would have got his man.

Score: 11

Alfie T
7:16am Thu 15 May 14

Alfie T wrote…

Alfie T wrote…

namgo49 wrote…

Orlandi was a class player and should have been given the chance to prove himself fitness wise. Disappointed with the Club. I hope to hell they have got a decent goalkeeper lined up also!!!

You read a lot of players saying that a particular managers enthusiasm and the way they sell the clubs ambition is a major factor in signing. Can't really see OG doing that somehow, hate to admit it, but think Gus would have got his man.

Sorry, was responding to Mark's post.

[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]namgo49[/bold] wrote:
Orlandi was a class player and should have been given the chance to prove himself fitness wise. Disappointed with the Club. I hope to hell they have got a decent goalkeeper lined up also!!![/p][/quote]Yes agree, always liked Orlandi, classy player, don't think he will have a problem finding Championship football, or perhaps higher.[/p][/quote]You read a lot of players saying that a particular managers enthusiasm and the way they sell the clubs ambition is a major factor in signing. Can't really see OG doing that somehow, hate to admit it, but think Gus would have got his man.[/p][/quote]Sorry, was responding to Mark's post.Alfie T

Alfie T wrote…

Alfie T wrote…

namgo49 wrote…

Orlandi was a class player and should have been given the chance to prove himself fitness wise. Disappointed with the Club. I hope to hell they have got a decent goalkeeper lined up also!!!

You read a lot of players saying that a particular managers enthusiasm and the way they sell the clubs ambition is a major factor in signing. Can't really see OG doing that somehow, hate to admit it, but think Gus would have got his man.

Sorry, was responding to Mark's post.

Score: 0

Alfie T
7:20am Thu 15 May 14

Had a look at Toko Nzuzi on a NSC link, just appears to run around kicking opponents, not quite a like for like with Orlandi.

Had a look at Toko Nzuzi on a NSC link, just appears to run around kicking opponents, not quite a like for like with Orlandi.Alfie T

Had a look at Toko Nzuzi on a NSC link, just appears to run around kicking opponents, not quite a like for like with Orlandi.

Score: 4

mark by the sea
7:21am Thu 15 May 14

Alfie T wrote…

mark by the sea wrote…

VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?

Everyone's got their price Mark, perhaps the Albions tippy tappy style on the pitch was mirrored off of it ith Grabban. In defence of Vegas Grabban did get himself a better deal, and now with Cardiff, probably doubled his salary.

Yes Bournemouth , grabban both got better deals in the long run,
We offered him another thirty quid and a freezer full of curry pies ( my least favourite )

[quote][p][bold]Alfie T[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?[/p][/quote]Everyone's got their price Mark, perhaps the Albions tippy tappy style on the pitch was mirrored off of it ith Grabban. In defence of Vegas Grabban did get himself a better deal, and now with Cardiff, probably doubled his salary.[/p][/quote]Yes Bournemouth , grabban both got better deals in the long run,
We offered him another thirty quid and a freezer full of curry pies ( my least favourite )mark by the sea

Alfie T wrote…

mark by the sea wrote…

VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?

Everyone's got their price Mark, perhaps the Albions tippy tappy style on the pitch was mirrored off of it ith Grabban. In defence of Vegas Grabban did get himself a better deal, and now with Cardiff, probably doubled his salary.

Yes Bournemouth , grabban both got better deals in the long run,
We offered him another thirty quid and a freezer full of curry pies ( my least favourite )

Score: -7

Ellen Street
7:31am Thu 15 May 14

Orlandi is one of the most technically gifted and creative footballers to have played for the Albion.There is something of David Beckham about his style,a touch of genius.Sorry to see him treated this way.

Orlandi is one of the most technically gifted and creative footballers to have played for the Albion.There is something of David Beckham about his style,a touch of genius.Sorry to see him treated this way.Ellen Street

Orlandi is one of the most technically gifted and creative footballers to have played for the Albion.There is something of David Beckham about his style,a touch of genius.Sorry to see him treated this way.

Score: 19

farside
7:34am Thu 15 May 14

No reporting of Tony Bloom's BBC interview?
Surprising but then he was somewhat critical of the argus

No reporting of Tony Bloom's BBC interview?
Surprising but then he was somewhat critical of the argusfarside

No reporting of Tony Bloom's BBC interview?
Surprising but then he was somewhat critical of the argus

Score: 4

Broadwater Juice
7:48am Thu 15 May 14

#bringbackorlandi

#bringbackorlandiBroadwater Juice

#bringbackorlandi

Score: 11

To baldly go
8:07am Thu 15 May 14

With Orlandi, it's all about the money imo, not him being greedy, but the club looking to streamline it's costs, he is talented yes, but wages against games played he was probably one of the most expensive player out there, with his contract coming to an end it was an easy choice to let him go. If Cms had finished his contract this season he might have been in the same boat!

With Orlandi, it's all about the money imo, not him being greedy, but the club looking to streamline it's costs, he is talented yes, but wages against games played he was probably one of the most expensive player out there, with his contract coming to an end it was an easy choice to let him go. If Cms had finished his contract this season he might have been in the same boat!To baldly go

With Orlandi, it's all about the money imo, not him being greedy, but the club looking to streamline it's costs, he is talented yes, but wages against games played he was probably one of the most expensive player out there, with his contract coming to an end it was an easy choice to let him go. If Cms had finished his contract this season he might have been in the same boat!

Score: 4

dave from bexill
8:07am Thu 15 May 14

B rian Tawses left foot wrote…

If Sherwood does become the new manager expect one of his first signings to be Brad Freidel. One of TK's bigges6 faults was his kicking - BF kicks go into the opposing penalty area.

Brad Freidal....Nice call and realistic chance of getting him I would think. Still very fit.

[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote:
If Sherwood does become the new manager expect one of his first signings to be Brad Freidel. One of TK's bigges6 faults was his kicking - BF kicks go into the opposing penalty area.[/p][/quote]Brad Freidal....Nice call and realistic chance of getting him I would think. Still very fit.dave from bexill

B rian Tawses left foot wrote…

If Sherwood does become the new manager expect one of his first signings to be Brad Freidel. One of TK's bigges6 faults was his kicking - BF kicks go into the opposing penalty area.

Brad Freidal....Nice call and realistic chance of getting him I would think. Still very fit.

Score: 7

Bucket feet Duffy
8:33am Thu 15 May 14

I would like to add that we seem to be very good at buying players who turn out to be crocks or unfit , there are still a couple of sick notes left in the squad, we also seem to let players go and let them go for virtually nothing, apart from bridcutt and Barnes that is, surely some of these players must have a value to some other possibly lower leauge teams, but then I guess this is the measure of our very expensive head of football Mr no charisma Berk.

I would like to add that we seem to be very good at buying players who turn out to be crocks or unfit , there are still a couple of sick notes left in the squad, we also seem to let players go and let them go for virtually nothing, apart from bridcutt and Barnes that is, surely some of these players must have a value to some other possibly lower leauge teams, but then I guess this is the measure of our very expensive head of football Mr no charisma Berk.Bucket feet Duffy

I would like to add that we seem to be very good at buying players who turn out to be crocks or unfit , there are still a couple of sick notes left in the squad, we also seem to let players go and let them go for virtually nothing, apart from bridcutt and Barnes that is, surely some of these players must have a value to some other possibly lower leauge teams, but then I guess this is the measure of our very expensive head of football Mr no charisma Berk.

Score: 0

russellsnr2
9:12am Thu 15 May 14

Lots of maybe's and if's above but I stated before and now, "Leave the players in and players out to the MANAGER" that is part of his job.
Whoever takes the reigns will have his player want list and I hope the club will back him in this respect 100%.
Also hope that the club do not take an eternity to make a decision on the new MANAGER I read that there are many top MANAGERS after the post so surely cannot be that difficult to choose the one we need?

Lots of maybe's and if's above but I stated before and now, "Leave the players in and players out to the MANAGER" that is part of his job.
Whoever takes the reigns will have his player want list and I hope the club will back him in this respect 100%.
Also hope that the club do not take an eternity to make a decision on the new MANAGER I read that there are many top MANAGERS after the post so surely cannot be that difficult to choose the one we need?russellsnr2

Lots of maybe's and if's above but I stated before and now, "Leave the players in and players out to the MANAGER" that is part of his job.
Whoever takes the reigns will have his player want list and I hope the club will back him in this respect 100%.
Also hope that the club do not take an eternity to make a decision on the new MANAGER I read that there are many top MANAGERS after the post so surely cannot be that difficult to choose the one we need?

"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"

That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.

Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.

"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"
That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.
Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.Ex-pat Arnie

"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"

That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.

Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.

Score: 2

Albion In Staffs
10:03am Thu 15 May 14

dave from bexill wrote…

B rian Tawses left foot wrote…

If Sherwood does become the new manager expect one of his first signings to be Brad Freidel. One of TK's bigges6 faults was his kicking - BF kicks go into the opposing penalty area.

Brad Freidal....Nice call and realistic chance of getting him I would think. Still very fit.

Been a good keeper in his time, but he's now 42.
Whatever his history of fitness, he's not one for me now I'm afraid. I can't see him being a mainstay for 46 matches.

[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote:
If Sherwood does become the new manager expect one of his first signings to be Brad Freidel. One of TK's bigges6 faults was his kicking - BF kicks go into the opposing penalty area.[/p][/quote]Brad Freidal....Nice call and realistic chance of getting him I would think. Still very fit.[/p][/quote]Been a good keeper in his time, but he's now 42.
Whatever his history of fitness, he's not one for me now I'm afraid. I can't see him being a mainstay for 46 matches.Albion In Staffs

dave from bexill wrote…

B rian Tawses left foot wrote…

If Sherwood does become the new manager expect one of his first signings to be Brad Freidel. One of TK's bigges6 faults was his kicking - BF kicks go into the opposing penalty area.

Brad Freidal....Nice call and realistic chance of getting him I would think. Still very fit.

Been a good keeper in his time, but he's now 42.
Whatever his history of fitness, he's not one for me now I'm afraid. I can't see him being a mainstay for 46 matches.

Score: 2

Andrea Orlandigasm
10:03am Thu 15 May 14

Broadwater Juice wrote…

#bringbackorlandi

Hopefully the new manager will bring back sexy Andrea. If it is Sherwood perhaps he will bring in Tom Carroll, who would be great signing at least on loan

[quote][p][bold]Broadwater Juice[/bold] wrote:
#bringbackorlandi[/p][/quote]Hopefully the new manager will bring back sexy Andrea. If it is Sherwood perhaps he will bring in Tom Carroll, who would be great signing at least on loanAndrea Orlandigasm

Broadwater Juice wrote…

#bringbackorlandi

Hopefully the new manager will bring back sexy Andrea. If it is Sherwood perhaps he will bring in Tom Carroll, who would be great signing at least on loan

Score: 8

gilbertthecat
10:30am Thu 15 May 14

The one major surprise for me and sad to see him going. He's been carrying an injury most of the season and I guess this may be an influence on the decision. For the player not to have some idea he was to be released says something I think. I would have been happy to see him given another season to show what he can do as he is still a very gifted player in my opinion. Maybe he'll come back if the new man at the top wants him - or maybe he would decide to steer clear himself. However, what we need now is to replace him with a very creative attacking midfielder who can run at defences and crack them open with a killer pass to our striker(s) while putting away a few himself. I look forward to seeing what develops in the next few weeks.

The one major surprise for me and sad to see him going. He's been carrying an injury most of the season and I guess this may be an influence on the decision. For the player not to have some idea he was to be released says something I think. I would have been happy to see him given another season to show what he can do as he is still a very gifted player in my opinion. Maybe he'll come back if the new man at the top wants him - or maybe he would decide to steer clear himself. However, what we need now is to replace him with a very creative attacking midfielder who can run at defences and crack them open with a killer pass to our striker(s) while putting away a few himself. I look forward to seeing what develops in the next few weeks.gilbertthecat

The one major surprise for me and sad to see him going. He's been carrying an injury most of the season and I guess this may be an influence on the decision. For the player not to have some idea he was to be released says something I think. I would have been happy to see him given another season to show what he can do as he is still a very gifted player in my opinion. Maybe he'll come back if the new man at the top wants him - or maybe he would decide to steer clear himself. However, what we need now is to replace him with a very creative attacking midfielder who can run at defences and crack them open with a killer pass to our striker(s) while putting away a few himself. I look forward to seeing what develops in the next few weeks.

Score: 8

mark by the sea
12:11pm Thu 15 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie wrote…

"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"

That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.

Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.

You can read it how you like, can't see a communication problem with the players who did a great job even with a thin squad..
As you,raised your head Arnie ,,
1) how many centre backs do we now need ? You stated OG had plans if we lost two to injury? I think you said Calderon would play there! That statement you made was a disaster in reality, dunk and ward were dragged all over the place!
2) TB would say there was a problem , he is not going to say we handled it badly, and are not about to change the set up!
3) are you confident the new manager will move the players around like chess pieces ! Another farcical statement when we could not live with Derby.
4) Leicester to bid 7 million for ulloa as I stated 3 months ago ( I think you said that was in my head too! Lol)
Can you assess your statement in November where you were confident that CMS and Hoskins would play a massive part in this season!
5) you told us all augustin would come good? When exactly is this going to happen?
Basically Arnie you play to the website backing the Albion to the hilt without a clue really what is going on..
For those that may say I am wrong! What would be our assessment if this farce was happening at palace, total mismanagement , let's not forget FFP will be our saviour ! You hang on every word from DB as though he knows something special.. Clubs will challenge that rule and it won't happen.
You cannot enforce a illegal agreement even if it's signed by all parties.
What the league want is to say how a company is run! Watch the challenges hit the fan this summer.

[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote:
"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"
That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.
Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.[/p][/quote]You can read it how you like, can't see a communication problem with the players who did a great job even with a thin squad..
As you,raised your head Arnie ,,
1) how many centre backs do we now need ? You stated OG had plans if we lost two to injury? I think you said Calderon would play there! That statement you made was a disaster in reality, dunk and ward were dragged all over the place!
2) TB would say there was a problem , he is not going to say we handled it badly, and are not about to change the set up!
3) are you confident the new manager will move the players around like chess pieces ! Another farcical statement when we could not live with Derby.
4) Leicester to bid 7 million for ulloa as I stated 3 months ago ( I think you said that was in my head too! Lol)
Can you assess your statement in November where you were confident that CMS and Hoskins would play a massive part in this season!
5) you told us all augustin would come good? When exactly is this going to happen?
Basically Arnie you play to the website backing the Albion to the hilt without a clue really what is going on..
For those that may say I am wrong! What would be our assessment if this farce was happening at palace, total mismanagement , let's not forget FFP will be our saviour ! You hang on every word from DB as though he knows something special.. Clubs will challenge that rule and it won't happen.
You cannot enforce a illegal agreement even if it's signed by all parties.
What the league want is to say how a company is run! Watch the challenges hit the fan this summer.mark by the sea

Ex-pat Arnie wrote…

"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"

That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.

Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.

You can read it how you like, can't see a communication problem with the players who did a great job even with a thin squad..
As you,raised your head Arnie ,,
1) how many centre backs do we now need ? You stated OG had plans if we lost two to injury? I think you said Calderon would play there! That statement you made was a disaster in reality, dunk and ward were dragged all over the place!
2) TB would say there was a problem , he is not going to say we handled it badly, and are not about to change the set up!
3) are you confident the new manager will move the players around like chess pieces ! Another farcical statement when we could not live with Derby.
4) Leicester to bid 7 million for ulloa as I stated 3 months ago ( I think you said that was in my head too! Lol)
Can you assess your statement in November where you were confident that CMS and Hoskins would play a massive part in this season!
5) you told us all augustin would come good? When exactly is this going to happen?
Basically Arnie you play to the website backing the Albion to the hilt without a clue really what is going on..
For those that may say I am wrong! What would be our assessment if this farce was happening at palace, total mismanagement , let's not forget FFP will be our saviour ! You hang on every word from DB as though he knows something special.. Clubs will challenge that rule and it won't happen.
You cannot enforce a illegal agreement even if it's signed by all parties.
What the league want is to say how a company is run! Watch the challenges hit the fan this summer.

Score: -5

mark by the sea
12:18pm Thu 15 May 14

Oh Arnie I give you a example of contracts , Bosman ! The whole world thought they owned a man even when his contract had run out! FIFA , then FA Thought they could own players till they wanted shot !

Oh Arnie I give you a example of contracts , Bosman ! The whole world thought they owned a man even when his contract had run out! FIFA , then FA Thought they could own players till they wanted shot !mark by the sea

Oh Arnie I give you a example of contracts , Bosman ! The whole world thought they owned a man even when his contract had run out! FIFA , then FA Thought they could own players till they wanted shot !

Score: -1

Piglet1
1:09pm Thu 15 May 14

mark by the sea wrote…

Ex-pat Arnie wrote…

"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"

That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.

Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.

You can read it how you like, can't see a communication problem with the players who did a great job even with a thin squad..
As you,raised your head Arnie ,,
1) how many centre backs do we now need ? You stated OG had plans if we lost two to injury? I think you said Calderon would play there! That statement you made was a disaster in reality, dunk and ward were dragged all over the place!
2) TB would say there was a problem , he is not going to say we handled it badly, and are not about to change the set up!
3) are you confident the new manager will move the players around like chess pieces ! Another farcical statement when we could not live with Derby.
4) Leicester to bid 7 million for ulloa as I stated 3 months ago ( I think you said that was in my head too! Lol)
Can you assess your statement in November where you were confident that CMS and Hoskins would play a massive part in this season!
5) you told us all augustin would come good? When exactly is this going to happen?
Basically Arnie you play to the website backing the Albion to the hilt without a clue really what is going on..
For those that may say I am wrong! What would be our assessment if this farce was happening at palace, total mismanagement , let's not forget FFP will be our saviour ! You hang on every word from DB as though he knows something special.. Clubs will challenge that rule and it won't happen.
You cannot enforce a illegal agreement even if it's signed by all parties.
What the league want is to say how a company is run! Watch the challenges hit the fan this summer.

To be fair to Arnie we could produce a huge list of things you have said that have not transpired. But it is too boring to do so.

[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote:
"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"
That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.
Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.[/p][/quote]You can read it how you like, can't see a communication problem with the players who did a great job even with a thin squad..
As you,raised your head Arnie ,,
1) how many centre backs do we now need ? You stated OG had plans if we lost two to injury? I think you said Calderon would play there! That statement you made was a disaster in reality, dunk and ward were dragged all over the place!
2) TB would say there was a problem , he is not going to say we handled it badly, and are not about to change the set up!
3) are you confident the new manager will move the players around like chess pieces ! Another farcical statement when we could not live with Derby.
4) Leicester to bid 7 million for ulloa as I stated 3 months ago ( I think you said that was in my head too! Lol)
Can you assess your statement in November where you were confident that CMS and Hoskins would play a massive part in this season!
5) you told us all augustin would come good? When exactly is this going to happen?
Basically Arnie you play to the website backing the Albion to the hilt without a clue really what is going on..
For those that may say I am wrong! What would be our assessment if this farce was happening at palace, total mismanagement , let's not forget FFP will be our saviour ! You hang on every word from DB as though he knows something special.. Clubs will challenge that rule and it won't happen.
You cannot enforce a illegal agreement even if it's signed by all parties.
What the league want is to say how a company is run! Watch the challenges hit the fan this summer.[/p][/quote]To be fair to Arnie we could produce a huge list of things you have said that have not transpired. But it is too boring to do so.Piglet1

mark by the sea wrote…

Ex-pat Arnie wrote…

"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"

That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.

Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.

You can read it how you like, can't see a communication problem with the players who did a great job even with a thin squad..
As you,raised your head Arnie ,,
1) how many centre backs do we now need ? You stated OG had plans if we lost two to injury? I think you said Calderon would play there! That statement you made was a disaster in reality, dunk and ward were dragged all over the place!
2) TB would say there was a problem , he is not going to say we handled it badly, and are not about to change the set up!
3) are you confident the new manager will move the players around like chess pieces ! Another farcical statement when we could not live with Derby.
4) Leicester to bid 7 million for ulloa as I stated 3 months ago ( I think you said that was in my head too! Lol)
Can you assess your statement in November where you were confident that CMS and Hoskins would play a massive part in this season!
5) you told us all augustin would come good? When exactly is this going to happen?
Basically Arnie you play to the website backing the Albion to the hilt without a clue really what is going on..
For those that may say I am wrong! What would be our assessment if this farce was happening at palace, total mismanagement , let's not forget FFP will be our saviour ! You hang on every word from DB as though he knows something special.. Clubs will challenge that rule and it won't happen.
You cannot enforce a illegal agreement even if it's signed by all parties.
What the league want is to say how a company is run! Watch the challenges hit the fan this summer.

To be fair to Arnie we could produce a huge list of things you have said that have not transpired. But it is too boring to do so.

Score: 4

CantUseNSCatWork
1:39pm Thu 15 May 14

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.

Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.
Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.CantUseNSCatWork

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.

Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.

Score: 3

VegasSeagull
1:51pm Thu 15 May 14

CantUseNSCatWork wrote…

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.

Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.

Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.

[quote][p][bold]CantUseNSCatWork[/bold] wrote:
Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.
Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.[/p][/quote]Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.VegasSeagull

CantUseNSCatWork wrote…

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.

Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.

Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.

Score: -2

VegasSeagull
2:20pm Thu 15 May 14

gilbertthecat wrote…

VegasSeagull wrote…

CantUseNSCatWork wrote…

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.

Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.

Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.

Maybe the answer is in potential sell on value. WB is still in contract so worth something to us from another club. Sure there were one or two PL sides sniffing around in January. AO was out of contract so effectively worth sod all at this particular point in time.

yes I agree, that's why I said, 'transfer listed,' as you correctly say, the others were out of contract or about to become so.

[quote][p][bold]gilbertthecat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]CantUseNSCatWork[/bold] wrote:
Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.
Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.[/p][/quote]Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.[/p][/quote]Maybe the answer is in potential sell on value. WB is still in contract so worth something to us from another club. Sure there were one or two PL sides sniffing around in January. AO was out of contract so effectively worth sod all at this particular point in time.[/p][/quote]yes I agree, that's why I said, 'transfer listed,' as you correctly say, the others were out of contract or about to become so.VegasSeagull

gilbertthecat wrote…

VegasSeagull wrote…

CantUseNSCatWork wrote…

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.

Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.

Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.

Maybe the answer is in potential sell on value. WB is still in contract so worth something to us from another club. Sure there were one or two PL sides sniffing around in January. AO was out of contract so effectively worth sod all at this particular point in time.

yes I agree, that's why I said, 'transfer listed,' as you correctly say, the others were out of contract or about to become so.

Score: -3

VegasSeagull
2:07pm Thu 15 May 14

VegasSeagull wrote…

CantUseNSCatWork wrote…

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.

Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.

Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.

Buckley was NOT transfer listed,

[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]CantUseNSCatWork[/bold] wrote:
Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.
Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.[/p][/quote]Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.[/p][/quote]Buckley was NOT transfer listed,VegasSeagull

VegasSeagull wrote…

CantUseNSCatWork wrote…

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.

Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.

Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.

Buckley was NOT transfer listed,

Score: 3

PressBoxTeaBoy
2:30pm Thu 15 May 14

Regarding the poll above - silly game, none of those released are of any great surprise ?

I read some of the comments on here and have a good chuckle quite often but also wonder in amazement if a lot of the comments are written by people who actually watched the games?

If they did, I can't understand why Orlandi's departure would be any kind of shock. Even when fit, including last year, he, just like his pal Lopez, produce minor moments of class (about 3% of the time) and 97% of time was just missing in action. Whenever either of them played we looked like a team playing with a man sent off.

Both were top of my list for automatic release. Third was Clown Prince Brezovan, 4th was Augustien, and 5th Andrews. I for one feel its been a great week, clearing our the dead wood, I only hope it continues so that we can build wages surplus to pay a few that can be the reverse of Orlandi/Lopez, by being great 97% of the time and crap 3% of the time..

Regarding the poll above - silly game, none of those released are of any great surprise ?
I read some of the comments on here and have a good chuckle quite often but also wonder in amazement if a lot of the comments are written by people who actually watched the games?
If they did, I can't understand why Orlandi's departure would be any kind of shock. Even when fit, including last year, he, just like his pal Lopez, produce minor moments of class (about 3% of the time) and 97% of time was just missing in action. Whenever either of them played we looked like a team playing with a man sent off.
Both were top of my list for automatic release. Third was Clown Prince Brezovan, 4th was Augustien, and 5th Andrews. I for one feel its been a great week, clearing our the dead wood, I only hope it continues so that we can build wages surplus to pay a few that can be the reverse of Orlandi/Lopez, by being great 97% of the time and crap 3% of the time..PressBoxTeaBoy

Regarding the poll above - silly game, none of those released are of any great surprise ?

I read some of the comments on here and have a good chuckle quite often but also wonder in amazement if a lot of the comments are written by people who actually watched the games?

If they did, I can't understand why Orlandi's departure would be any kind of shock. Even when fit, including last year, he, just like his pal Lopez, produce minor moments of class (about 3% of the time) and 97% of time was just missing in action. Whenever either of them played we looked like a team playing with a man sent off.

Both were top of my list for automatic release. Third was Clown Prince Brezovan, 4th was Augustien, and 5th Andrews. I for one feel its been a great week, clearing our the dead wood, I only hope it continues so that we can build wages surplus to pay a few that can be the reverse of Orlandi/Lopez, by being great 97% of the time and crap 3% of the time..

Score: 0

gilbertthecat
3:46pm Thu 15 May 14

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote…

Regarding the poll above - silly game, none of those released are of any great surprise ?

I read some of the comments on here and have a good chuckle quite often but also wonder in amazement if a lot of the comments are written by people who actually watched the games?

If they did, I can't understand why Orlandi's departure would be any kind of shock. Even when fit, including last year, he, just like his pal Lopez, produce minor moments of class (about 3% of the time) and 97% of time was just missing in action. Whenever either of them played we looked like a team playing with a man sent off.

Both were top of my list for automatic release. Third was Clown Prince Brezovan, 4th was Augustien, and 5th Andrews. I for one feel its been a great week, clearing our the dead wood, I only hope it continues so that we can build wages surplus to pay a few that can be the reverse of Orlandi/Lopez, by being great 97% of the time and crap 3% of the time..

PBTB agree with your last paragraph in that we need replacements who will perform more consistently. DL was very poor this season, somewhat better the season before. Same for AO but I think AO is just a better class. In as much as he hasn't shown that class too often I agree with you. That's my opinion. I don't deride you or others for your opinion whilst expressing my own. I go to games and form my own opinion. Just because someone else's opinion differs from yours doesn't mean the opinion holder doesn't go to games.

And in total agreement with you - bye bye PB, KA no.1 and (I pray) KA no.2 so that we can find better replacements again.

[quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote:
Regarding the poll above - silly game, none of those released are of any great surprise ?
I read some of the comments on here and have a good chuckle quite often but also wonder in amazement if a lot of the comments are written by people who actually watched the games?
If they did, I can't understand why Orlandi's departure would be any kind of shock. Even when fit, including last year, he, just like his pal Lopez, produce minor moments of class (about 3% of the time) and 97% of time was just missing in action. Whenever either of them played we looked like a team playing with a man sent off.
Both were top of my list for automatic release. Third was Clown Prince Brezovan, 4th was Augustien, and 5th Andrews. I for one feel its been a great week, clearing our the dead wood, I only hope it continues so that we can build wages surplus to pay a few that can be the reverse of Orlandi/Lopez, by being great 97% of the time and crap 3% of the time..[/p][/quote]PBTB agree with your last paragraph in that we need replacements who will perform more consistently. DL was very poor this season, somewhat better the season before. Same for AO but I think AO is just a better class. In as much as he hasn't shown that class too often I agree with you. That's my opinion. I don't deride you or others for your opinion whilst expressing my own. I go to games and form my own opinion. Just because someone else's opinion differs from yours doesn't mean the opinion holder doesn't go to games.
And in total agreement with you - bye bye PB, KA no.1 and (I pray) KA no.2 so that we can find better replacements again.gilbertthecat

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote…

Regarding the poll above - silly game, none of those released are of any great surprise ?

I read some of the comments on here and have a good chuckle quite often but also wonder in amazement if a lot of the comments are written by people who actually watched the games?

If they did, I can't understand why Orlandi's departure would be any kind of shock. Even when fit, including last year, he, just like his pal Lopez, produce minor moments of class (about 3% of the time) and 97% of time was just missing in action. Whenever either of them played we looked like a team playing with a man sent off.

Both were top of my list for automatic release. Third was Clown Prince Brezovan, 4th was Augustien, and 5th Andrews. I for one feel its been a great week, clearing our the dead wood, I only hope it continues so that we can build wages surplus to pay a few that can be the reverse of Orlandi/Lopez, by being great 97% of the time and crap 3% of the time..

PBTB agree with your last paragraph in that we need replacements who will perform more consistently. DL was very poor this season, somewhat better the season before. Same for AO but I think AO is just a better class. In as much as he hasn't shown that class too often I agree with you. That's my opinion. I don't deride you or others for your opinion whilst expressing my own. I go to games and form my own opinion. Just because someone else's opinion differs from yours doesn't mean the opinion holder doesn't go to games.

And in total agreement with you - bye bye PB, KA no.1 and (I pray) KA no.2 so that we can find better replacements again.

Score: 0

dave from bexill
3:48pm Thu 15 May 14

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote…

Regarding the poll above - silly game, none of those released are of any great surprise ?

I read some of the comments on here and have a good chuckle quite often but also wonder in amazement if a lot of the comments are written by people who actually watched the games?

If they did, I can't understand why Orlandi's departure would be any kind of shock. Even when fit, including last year, he, just like his pal Lopez, produce minor moments of class (about 3% of the time) and 97% of time was just missing in action. Whenever either of them played we looked like a team playing with a man sent off.

Both were top of my list for automatic release. Third was Clown Prince Brezovan, 4th was Augustien, and 5th Andrews. I for one feel its been a great week, clearing our the dead wood, I only hope it continues so that we can build wages surplus to pay a few that can be the reverse of Orlandi/Lopez, by being great 97% of the time and crap 3% of the time..

You're entitled to your opinion as we all see things differently.

[quote][p][bold]PressBoxTeaBoy[/bold] wrote:
Regarding the poll above - silly game, none of those released are of any great surprise ?
I read some of the comments on here and have a good chuckle quite often but also wonder in amazement if a lot of the comments are written by people who actually watched the games?
If they did, I can't understand why Orlandi's departure would be any kind of shock. Even when fit, including last year, he, just like his pal Lopez, produce minor moments of class (about 3% of the time) and 97% of time was just missing in action. Whenever either of them played we looked like a team playing with a man sent off.
Both were top of my list for automatic release. Third was Clown Prince Brezovan, 4th was Augustien, and 5th Andrews. I for one feel its been a great week, clearing our the dead wood, I only hope it continues so that we can build wages surplus to pay a few that can be the reverse of Orlandi/Lopez, by being great 97% of the time and crap 3% of the time..[/p][/quote]You're entitled to your opinion as we all see things differently.dave from bexill

PressBoxTeaBoy wrote…

Regarding the poll above - silly game, none of those released are of any great surprise ?

I read some of the comments on here and have a good chuckle quite often but also wonder in amazement if a lot of the comments are written by people who actually watched the games?

If they did, I can't understand why Orlandi's departure would be any kind of shock. Even when fit, including last year, he, just like his pal Lopez, produce minor moments of class (about 3% of the time) and 97% of time was just missing in action. Whenever either of them played we looked like a team playing with a man sent off.

Both were top of my list for automatic release. Third was Clown Prince Brezovan, 4th was Augustien, and 5th Andrews. I for one feel its been a great week, clearing our the dead wood, I only hope it continues so that we can build wages surplus to pay a few that can be the reverse of Orlandi/Lopez, by being great 97% of the time and crap 3% of the time..

You're entitled to your opinion as we all see things differently.

Score: -3

Mancgulled
4:30pm Thu 15 May 14

Albion In Staffs wrote…

dave from bexill wrote…

B rian Tawses left foot wrote…

If Sherwood does become the new manager expect one of his first signings to be Brad Freidel. One of TK's bigges6 faults was his kicking - BF kicks go into the opposing penalty area.

Brad Freidal....Nice call and realistic chance of getting him I would think. Still very fit.

Been a good keeper in his time, but he's now 42.
Whatever his history of fitness, he's not one for me now I'm afraid. I can't see him being a mainstay for 46 matches.

Liking your thinking!

[quote][p][bold]Albion In Staffs[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]dave from bexill[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]B rian Tawses left foot[/bold] wrote:
If Sherwood does become the new manager expect one of his first signings to be Brad Freidel. One of TK's bigges6 faults was his kicking - BF kicks go into the opposing penalty area.[/p][/quote]Brad Freidal....Nice call and realistic chance of getting him I would think. Still very fit.[/p][/quote]Been a good keeper in his time, but he's now 42.
Whatever his history of fitness, he's not one for me now I'm afraid. I can't see him being a mainstay for 46 matches.[/p][/quote]Liking your thinking!Mancgulled

Albion In Staffs wrote…

dave from bexill wrote…

B rian Tawses left foot wrote…

If Sherwood does become the new manager expect one of his first signings to be Brad Freidel. One of TK's bigges6 faults was his kicking - BF kicks go into the opposing penalty area.

Brad Freidal....Nice call and realistic chance of getting him I would think. Still very fit.

Been a good keeper in his time, but he's now 42.
Whatever his history of fitness, he's not one for me now I'm afraid. I can't see him being a mainstay for 46 matches.

Liking your thinking!

Score: 0

King Freeloader
4:41pm Thu 15 May 14

twonk wrote…

You can't sign a player that had a couple of good games a season.

What an outstanding post and 100% correct.Lets see how many other clubs in England rush to sign him and Hoskins now lol haha ? The lies on this site about Hoskins being fighting fit and almost back to his best are almost out of control on this site some days.Start showing the same amount of love to great players like Ulloa that stayed on the pitch after the game with the Derby fans all around him.Apart from him and Calderon the rest just walked off to their long holidays.

[quote][p][bold]twonk[/bold] wrote:
You can't sign a player that had a couple of good games a season.[/p][/quote]What an outstanding post and 100% correct.Lets see how many other clubs in England rush to sign him and Hoskins now lol haha ? The lies on this site about Hoskins being fighting fit and almost back to his best are almost out of control on this site some days.Start showing the same amount of love to great players like Ulloa that stayed on the pitch after the game with the Derby fans all around him.Apart from him and Calderon the rest just walked off to their long holidays.King Freeloader

twonk wrote…

You can't sign a player that had a couple of good games a season.

What an outstanding post and 100% correct.Lets see how many other clubs in England rush to sign him and Hoskins now lol haha ? The lies on this site about Hoskins being fighting fit and almost back to his best are almost out of control on this site some days.Start showing the same amount of love to great players like Ulloa that stayed on the pitch after the game with the Derby fans all around him.Apart from him and Calderon the rest just walked off to their long holidays.

Score: -3

King Freeloader
4:44pm Thu 15 May 14

VegasSeagull wrote…

CantUseNSCatWork wrote…

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.

Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.

Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.

One of your best posts Vegas.Outstanding words.Availabe to earn said wages.100% correct.Nice one.

[quote][p][bold]VegasSeagull[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]CantUseNSCatWork[/bold] wrote:
Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.
Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.[/p][/quote]Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.[/p][/quote]One of your best posts Vegas.Outstanding words.Availabe to earn said wages.100% correct.Nice one.King Freeloader

VegasSeagull wrote…

CantUseNSCatWork wrote…

Of those released the one I'm most gutted to see go is Orlandi - on his day he is a class player. I think it may have been prudent to wait until we know who the new boss is going to be and have waited for his opinion on whether to keep him or not.

Of the others, Kuszczak I can understand being released as he didn't really seem to want to be here with all his premiership talk, and the rest, well fair enough I guess.

Oddly enough I am not surprised that Orlandi was not retained, in fact I am somewhat surprised that Buckley was transfer listed.
Whilst both players are very good on their day, the number of, 'days,' can't be relied on, in fact what we can rely on is that both of them are likely to be out for periods of the season with persistent injuries.
If our budget is not as big as other clubs, largely those with parachute payments, those that are getting wages must be available to earn said wages.

One of your best posts Vegas.Outstanding words.Availabe to earn said wages.100% correct.Nice one.

Score: -3

impose our game gull
5:33pm Thu 15 May 14

Orlandi is too injury prone and we need less injuries. Games this season - confidence gone and set piece delivery poor. We don't have time to wait for everyone

UTA!!

Orlandi is too injury prone and we need less injuries. Games this season - confidence gone and set piece delivery poor. We don't have time to wait for everyone
UTA!!impose our game gull

Orlandi is too injury prone and we need less injuries. Games this season - confidence gone and set piece delivery poor. We don't have time to wait for everyone

UTA!!

Score: 0

mark by the sea
6:28pm Thu 15 May 14

Ex-pat Arnie wrote…

mark by the sea wrote…

Ex-pat Arnie wrote…

"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"

That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.

Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.

You can read it how you like, can't see a communication problem with the players who did a great job even with a thin squad..
As you,raised your head Arnie ,,
1) how many centre backs do we now need ? You stated OG had plans if we lost two to injury? I think you said Calderon would play there! That statement you made was a disaster in reality, dunk and ward were dragged all over the place!
2) TB would say there was a problem , he is not going to say we handled it badly, and are not about to change the set up!
3) are you confident the new manager will move the players around like chess pieces ! Another farcical statement when we could not live with Derby.
4) Leicester to bid 7 million for ulloa as I stated 3 months ago ( I think you said that was in my head too! Lol)
Can you assess your statement in November where you were confident that CMS and Hoskins would play a massive part in this season!
5) you told us all augustin would come good? When exactly is this going to happen?
Basically Arnie you play to the website backing the Albion to the hilt without a clue really what is going on..
For those that may say I am wrong! What would be our assessment if this farce was happening at palace, total mismanagement , let's not forget FFP will be our saviour ! You hang on every word from DB as though he knows something special.. Clubs will challenge that rule and it won't happen.
You cannot enforce a illegal agreement even if it's signed by all parties.
What the league want is to say how a company is run! Watch the challenges hit the fan this summer.

(1) We would have been fine with two defenders out injured. We had three defenders out injured so Calde had to cover right-back. Three is always going to be hard to manage, if only because you will never have four CB all good enough for the Champ if two are always going to be on the bench.
(2) Not a question
(3) Yes, the new manager may well move the players around like chess pieces. Or he may insist they never move more than five yards from their given position. Not sure of you point here? We could not live with Derby because they were playing very well and we had three defenders missing (see above).
(4) You're claiming something now you claimed three months ago, both times unverified. We can all continue to claim things, but unless it happens I'm not sure of your point. Will not comment unless it actually happens.
(4b) Hoskins didn't play, granted, but was it not CMS's last gasp cross that got us into the play-offs? If that's not "massive" then let me know what you think is.
(5) With a new manager Agustien may still well become good. It seems the problem between him and OG was personal as reports are that he's as fit as a butcher's dog right now. The difference is I offer my opinions as opinions, you generally offer yours as absolute facts.

Also: I never hang on anything DB says as AFAICT he rarely ever says anything in public. Do you actually mean TB? In which case yes, I am more inclined to believe him than you. And before you get on your high horse about being singled out, I will believe him more than many people on this website who have absolutely no insight whatsoever.

You have your opinion on FFP and I have mine, but think on this: if the Football League renege on the rules they open themselves up to lawsuits from those clubs which inhibited their dealings in order to comply. If you're going to get sued anyway, why go against your own plans, plans which are designed to stop clubs folding? The clubs are already being told how to run their clubs - that's what the rules of association are. If they don't like it they can always withdraw from competition.

Final thought: I may indeed back the club (truly amazing, it's ALMOST like I'm a real supporter!) but you do quite the opposite and always look on the downside - as many on here have accused you of recently. Which of us enjoys being a fan more - you with your constant negativity, or me with my positive outlook? It's not you.

Feel free to respond, but this thread is dead to me now and all future posts of yours will be ignored as I do with all the other trolls and WUMs who try to kick things off.

Lol your saying having three defenders injured was a one off? Three players covering 4 positions, we have three keepers covering on position , and keepers are less likely to get injured or booked than a defender..
As for your other stupid defences, are you not embarrassed ?
To say CMS has had a good half season when he has played a hour, not scored a goal , and you cling to the only thing ! One cross! Not bad for 1m wages since he last played!
Your seldom right , but wrong again!

[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Ex-pat Arnie[/bold] wrote:
"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"
That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.
Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.[/p][/quote]You can read it how you like, can't see a communication problem with the players who did a great job even with a thin squad..
As you,raised your head Arnie ,,
1) how many centre backs do we now need ? You stated OG had plans if we lost two to injury? I think you said Calderon would play there! That statement you made was a disaster in reality, dunk and ward were dragged all over the place!
2) TB would say there was a problem , he is not going to say we handled it badly, and are not about to change the set up!
3) are you confident the new manager will move the players around like chess pieces ! Another farcical statement when we could not live with Derby.
4) Leicester to bid 7 million for ulloa as I stated 3 months ago ( I think you said that was in my head too! Lol)
Can you assess your statement in November where you were confident that CMS and Hoskins would play a massive part in this season!
5) you told us all augustin would come good? When exactly is this going to happen?
Basically Arnie you play to the website backing the Albion to the hilt without a clue really what is going on..
For those that may say I am wrong! What would be our assessment if this farce was happening at palace, total mismanagement , let's not forget FFP will be our saviour ! You hang on every word from DB as though he knows something special.. Clubs will challenge that rule and it won't happen.
You cannot enforce a illegal agreement even if it's signed by all parties.
What the league want is to say how a company is run! Watch the challenges hit the fan this summer.[/p][/quote](1) We would have been fine with two defenders out injured. We had three defenders out injured so Calde had to cover right-back. Three is always going to be hard to manage, if only because you will never have four CB all good enough for the Champ if two are always going to be on the bench.
(2) Not a question
(3) Yes, the new manager may well move the players around like chess pieces. Or he may insist they never move more than five yards from their given position. Not sure of you point here? We could not live with Derby because they were playing very well and we had three defenders missing (see above).
(4) You're claiming something now you claimed three months ago, both times unverified. We can all continue to claim things, but unless it happens I'm not sure of your point. Will not comment unless it actually happens.
(4b) Hoskins didn't play, granted, but was it not CMS's last gasp cross that got us into the play-offs? If that's not "massive" then let me know what you think is.
(5) With a new manager Agustien may still well become good. It seems the problem between him and OG was personal as reports are that he's as fit as a butcher's dog right now. The difference is I offer my opinions as opinions, you generally offer yours as absolute facts.
Also: I never hang on anything DB says as AFAICT he rarely ever says anything in public. Do you actually mean TB? In which case yes, I am more inclined to believe him than you. And before you get on your high horse about being singled out, I will believe him more than many people on this website who have absolutely no insight whatsoever.
You have your opinion on FFP and I have mine, but think on this: if the Football League renege on the rules they open themselves up to lawsuits from those clubs which inhibited their dealings in order to comply. If you're going to get sued anyway, why go against your own plans, plans which are designed to stop clubs folding? The clubs are already being told how to run their clubs - that's what the rules of association are. If they don't like it they can always withdraw from competition.
Final thought: I may indeed back the club (truly amazing, it's ALMOST like I'm a real supporter!) but you do quite the opposite and always look on the downside - as many on here have accused you of recently. Which of us enjoys being a fan more - you with your constant negativity, or me with my positive outlook? It's not you.
Feel free to respond, but this thread is dead to me now and all future posts of yours will be ignored as I do with all the other trolls and WUMs who try to kick things off.[/p][/quote]Lol your saying having three defenders injured was a one off? Three players covering 4 positions, we have three keepers covering on position , and keepers are less likely to get injured or booked than a defender..
As for your other stupid defences, are you not embarrassed ?
To say CMS has had a good half season when he has played a hour, not scored a goal , and you cling to the only thing ! One cross! Not bad for 1m wages since he last played!
Your seldom right , but wrong again!mark by the sea

Ex-pat Arnie wrote…

mark by the sea wrote…

Ex-pat Arnie wrote…

"OG apparently had communication problems with DB and TB due to the language problem"

That is not what was said, it was just a "communication problem" as in perhaps being quiet, uncommunicative, difficult to get hold of perhaps- nothing to do with language.

Reading between the lines often results in seeing things that just don't exists anywhere ther than in your own head.

You can read it how you like, can't see a communication problem with the players who did a great job even with a thin squad..
As you,raised your head Arnie ,,
1) how many centre backs do we now need ? You stated OG had plans if we lost two to injury? I think you said Calderon would play there! That statement you made was a disaster in reality, dunk and ward were dragged all over the place!
2) TB would say there was a problem , he is not going to say we handled it badly, and are not about to change the set up!
3) are you confident the new manager will move the players around like chess pieces ! Another farcical statement when we could not live with Derby.
4) Leicester to bid 7 million for ulloa as I stated 3 months ago ( I think you said that was in my head too! Lol)
Can you assess your statement in November where you were confident that CMS and Hoskins would play a massive part in this season!
5) you told us all augustin would come good? When exactly is this going to happen?
Basically Arnie you play to the website backing the Albion to the hilt without a clue really what is going on..
For those that may say I am wrong! What would be our assessment if this farce was happening at palace, total mismanagement , let's not forget FFP will be our saviour ! You hang on every word from DB as though he knows something special.. Clubs will challenge that rule and it won't happen.
You cannot enforce a illegal agreement even if it's signed by all parties.
What the league want is to say how a company is run! Watch the challenges hit the fan this summer.

(1) We would have been fine with two defenders out injured. We had three defenders out injured so Calde had to cover right-back. Three is always going to be hard to manage, if only because you will never have four CB all good enough for the Champ if two are always going to be on the bench.
(2) Not a question
(3) Yes, the new manager may well move the players around like chess pieces. Or he may insist they never move more than five yards from their given position. Not sure of you point here? We could not live with Derby because they were playing very well and we had three defenders missing (see above).
(4) You're claiming something now you claimed three months ago, both times unverified. We can all continue to claim things, but unless it happens I'm not sure of your point. Will not comment unless it actually happens.
(4b) Hoskins didn't play, granted, but was it not CMS's last gasp cross that got us into the play-offs? If that's not "massive" then let me know what you think is.
(5) With a new manager Agustien may still well become good. It seems the problem between him and OG was personal as reports are that he's as fit as a butcher's dog right now. The difference is I offer my opinions as opinions, you generally offer yours as absolute facts.

Also: I never hang on anything DB says as AFAICT he rarely ever says anything in public. Do you actually mean TB? In which case yes, I am more inclined to believe him than you. And before you get on your high horse about being singled out, I will believe him more than many people on this website who have absolutely no insight whatsoever.

You have your opinion on FFP and I have mine, but think on this: if the Football League renege on the rules they open themselves up to lawsuits from those clubs which inhibited their dealings in order to comply. If you're going to get sued anyway, why go against your own plans, plans which are designed to stop clubs folding? The clubs are already being told how to run their clubs - that's what the rules of association are. If they don't like it they can always withdraw from competition.

Final thought: I may indeed back the club (truly amazing, it's ALMOST like I'm a real supporter!) but you do quite the opposite and always look on the downside - as many on here have accused you of recently. Which of us enjoys being a fan more - you with your constant negativity, or me with my positive outlook? It's not you.

Feel free to respond, but this thread is dead to me now and all future posts of yours will be ignored as I do with all the other trolls and WUMs who try to kick things off.

Lol your saying having three defenders injured was a one off? Three players covering 4 positions, we have three keepers covering on position , and keepers are less likely to get injured or booked than a defender..
As for your other stupid defences, are you not embarrassed ?
To say CMS has had a good half season when he has played a hour, not scored a goal , and you cling to the only thing ! One cross! Not bad for 1m wages since he last played!
Your seldom right , but wrong again!

Score: 2

Withdean-er
6:38pm Thu 15 May 14

Why is anyone shocked about Kuzschak?

In Argus and fans forums like northstandchat, it was made abundantly clear by knowledgeable fans that under FFP he would be off this Summer as we couldn't afford his wages anymore.

Shame, as he's a great goalie. The odd mistake, but one of the best keepers we've ever had.

Why is anyone shocked about Kuzschak?
In Argus and fans forums like northstandchat, it was made abundantly clear by knowledgeable fans that under FFP he would be off this Summer as we couldn't afford his wages anymore.
Shame, as he's a great goalie. The odd mistake, but one of the best keepers we've ever had.Withdean-er

Why is anyone shocked about Kuzschak?

In Argus and fans forums like northstandchat, it was made abundantly clear by knowledgeable fans that under FFP he would be off this Summer as we couldn't afford his wages anymore.

Shame, as he's a great goalie. The odd mistake, but one of the best keepers we've ever had.

Score: 3

Bucket feet Duffy
10:20pm Thu 15 May 14

I felt Andrea's comments on sky were extremly heartfelt, his comments regarding the city and the people were a nice touch, not sure if he was signalling that he might be open to reduced terms , anyway he will be missed if not, good pro some nice touches some memorable goals, all the best Andrea! Adios !

I felt Andrea's comments on sky were extremly heartfelt, his comments regarding the city and the people were a nice touch, not sure if he was signalling that he might be open to reduced terms , anyway he will be missed if not, good pro some nice touches some memorable goals, all the best Andrea! Adios !Bucket feet Duffy

I felt Andrea's comments on sky were extremly heartfelt, his comments regarding the city and the people were a nice touch, not sure if he was signalling that he might be open to reduced terms , anyway he will be missed if not, good pro some nice touches some memorable goals, all the best Andrea! Adios !

Score: 0

sussexram40
11:15pm Thu 15 May 14

Not sad to see the flapper/puncher TK going. Never rated him.

Not sad to see the flapper/puncher TK going. Never rated him.sussexram40

Not sad to see the flapper/puncher TK going. Never rated him.

Score: -2

VegasSeagull
12:52am Fri 16 May 14

mark by the sea wrote…

VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?

yeah, why not?

[quote][p][bold]mark by the sea[/bold] wrote:
VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?[/p][/quote]yeah, why not?VegasSeagull

mark by the sea wrote…

VEGAS..... You told us With certainty Grabban was just using the Albion to better his existing deal and never wanted to really leave Bournemouth, are you still sticking to that one?

yeah, why not?

Score: -2

Vince
12:57am Fri 16 May 14

Bucket feet Duffy wrote…

I felt Andrea's comments on sky were extremly heartfelt, his comments regarding the city and the people were a nice touch, not sure if he was signalling that he might be open to reduced terms , anyway he will be missed if not, good pro some nice touches some memorable goals, all the best Andrea! Adios !

Orlandi was the most gifted "FOOTBALL" player we had. His close control and speed of thought was far greater than the sum total of football "brains" of Nathan Jones and the suits put together.
If we are retaining players like Andrews who's passing and vision is Conference class and getting rid of Andrea - then we are going backwards not forwards in my opinion.
Lopez I never liked and was disappointed he was signed on for another year.
Hoskins was gifted but will never be given the chance. Kuszac was an excellent keeper - but prone to panic on the big occasions. Brezovan was always a non-starter.

Grabban sold for £3m (cost nothing) - Bournemouth under Howe always buy cheap and sell big. The irony is that Danny Ings probably worth about £15m - was bought by Howe for Burnley when he was their manager for a meagre £2m FROM Bournemouth!
Conway was class - but why we never signed him has not been disclosed. No doubt another budgetary reason.

Sometimes in football it pays to speculate to accumulate. Imagine if the suits had been around to tell Micky Adams that £100,000 was too much to pay for Zamora from Bristol Rovers! He was a massive reason we had 2 successive promotions - which brought us in a large amount of revenue
and we sold him for £1.5m. Bristol Rovers had a sell-on clause so got a fair bit of that money. We had a sell-on clause for Zamora when we sold him but never got a penny from Spurs when they sold him to West-Ham - as he was part of a 2-player exchange deal - and they conveniently (for them) valued him at nothing to avoid paying any money to us. Another example of a football con and Brighton being stitched-up!
I tend to agree that all this FFP adherence will have been a waste of time in terms of Brighton gaining a big advantage over the over-spenders in terms of them being heavily penalised. Big fines are likely to be circumvented by legal loopholes - and the likes of QPR, Blackburn and Forest will get away with derisory punishments.

Back to Orlandi. Thanks for the memories of some superb football skills under Gus Poyet. You were a star member of the team which nearly won promotion under Gus - until he got strops with TB and the suits - and virtually handed the game to Palace.
It's a mystery why the headless chickens who run this club don't value you. i am not surprised that they did the dirty on you - as it came as a complete surprise to you. You are better off out of this club - which is carrying out it's business without oppenness and transparency. No manager worth his salt would allow himself to be dictated to by others - when it comes to transfers. Typical of the way the money men think they are in control.

No! The one's in control are the fans - because it is they who keep the club going. No fans - no club. Simple!

I am getting very disillusioned by the internal "politics" at the AMEX.

[quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote:
I felt Andrea's comments on sky were extremly heartfelt, his comments regarding the city and the people were a nice touch, not sure if he was signalling that he might be open to reduced terms , anyway he will be missed if not, good pro some nice touches some memorable goals, all the best Andrea! Adios ![/p][/quote]Orlandi was the most gifted "FOOTBALL" player we had. His close control and speed of thought was far greater than the sum total of football "brains" of Nathan Jones and the suits put together.
If we are retaining players like Andrews who's passing and vision is Conference class and getting rid of Andrea - then we are going backwards not forwards in my opinion.
Lopez I never liked and was disappointed he was signed on for another year.
Hoskins was gifted but will never be given the chance. Kuszac was an excellent keeper - but prone to panic on the big occasions. Brezovan was always a non-starter.
Grabban sold for £3m (cost nothing) - Bournemouth under Howe always buy cheap and sell big. The irony is that Danny Ings probably worth about £15m - was bought by Howe for Burnley when he was their manager for a meagre £2m FROM Bournemouth!
Conway was class - but why we never signed him has not been disclosed. No doubt another budgetary reason.
Sometimes in football it pays to speculate to accumulate. Imagine if the suits had been around to tell Micky Adams that £100,000 was too much to pay for Zamora from Bristol Rovers! He was a massive reason we had 2 successive promotions - which brought us in a large amount of revenue
and we sold him for £1.5m. Bristol Rovers had a sell-on clause so got a fair bit of that money. We had a sell-on clause for Zamora when we sold him but never got a penny from Spurs when they sold him to West-Ham - as he was part of a 2-player exchange deal - and they conveniently (for them) valued him at nothing to avoid paying any money to us. Another example of a football con and Brighton being stitched-up!
I tend to agree that all this FFP adherence will have been a waste of time in terms of Brighton gaining a big advantage over the over-spenders in terms of them being heavily penalised. Big fines are likely to be circumvented by legal loopholes - and the likes of QPR, Blackburn and Forest will get away with derisory punishments.
Back to Orlandi. Thanks for the memories of some superb football skills under Gus Poyet. You were a star member of the team which nearly won promotion under Gus - until he got strops with TB and the suits - and virtually handed the game to Palace.
It's a mystery why the headless chickens who run this club don't value you. i am not surprised that they did the dirty on you - as it came as a complete surprise to you. You are better off out of this club - which is carrying out it's business without oppenness and transparency. No manager worth his salt would allow himself to be dictated to by others - when it comes to transfers. Typical of the way the money men think they are in control.
No! The one's in control are the fans - because it is they who keep the club going. No fans - no club. Simple!
I am getting very disillusioned by the internal "politics" at the AMEX.Vince

Bucket feet Duffy wrote…

I felt Andrea's comments on sky were extremly heartfelt, his comments regarding the city and the people were a nice touch, not sure if he was signalling that he might be open to reduced terms , anyway he will be missed if not, good pro some nice touches some memorable goals, all the best Andrea! Adios !

Orlandi was the most gifted "FOOTBALL" player we had. His close control and speed of thought was far greater than the sum total of football "brains" of Nathan Jones and the suits put together.
If we are retaining players like Andrews who's passing and vision is Conference class and getting rid of Andrea - then we are going backwards not forwards in my opinion.
Lopez I never liked and was disappointed he was signed on for another year.
Hoskins was gifted but will never be given the chance. Kuszac was an excellent keeper - but prone to panic on the big occasions. Brezovan was always a non-starter.

Grabban sold for £3m (cost nothing) - Bournemouth under Howe always buy cheap and sell big. The irony is that Danny Ings probably worth about £15m - was bought by Howe for Burnley when he was their manager for a meagre £2m FROM Bournemouth!
Conway was class - but why we never signed him has not been disclosed. No doubt another budgetary reason.

Sometimes in football it pays to speculate to accumulate. Imagine if the suits had been around to tell Micky Adams that £100,000 was too much to pay for Zamora from Bristol Rovers! He was a massive reason we had 2 successive promotions - which brought us in a large amount of revenue
and we sold him for £1.5m. Bristol Rovers had a sell-on clause so got a fair bit of that money. We had a sell-on clause for Zamora when we sold him but never got a penny from Spurs when they sold him to West-Ham - as he was part of a 2-player exchange deal - and they conveniently (for them) valued him at nothing to avoid paying any money to us. Another example of a football con and Brighton being stitched-up!
I tend to agree that all this FFP adherence will have been a waste of time in terms of Brighton gaining a big advantage over the over-spenders in terms of them being heavily penalised. Big fines are likely to be circumvented by legal loopholes - and the likes of QPR, Blackburn and Forest will get away with derisory punishments.

Back to Orlandi. Thanks for the memories of some superb football skills under Gus Poyet. You were a star member of the team which nearly won promotion under Gus - until he got strops with TB and the suits - and virtually handed the game to Palace.
It's a mystery why the headless chickens who run this club don't value you. i am not surprised that they did the dirty on you - as it came as a complete surprise to you. You are better off out of this club - which is carrying out it's business without oppenness and transparency. No manager worth his salt would allow himself to be dictated to by others - when it comes to transfers. Typical of the way the money men think they are in control.

No! The one's in control are the fans - because it is they who keep the club going. No fans - no club. Simple!

I am getting very disillusioned by the internal "politics" at the AMEX.

Score: 5

Bucket feet Duffy
3:38am Fri 16 May 14

Vince wrote…

Bucket feet Duffy wrote…

I felt Andrea's comments on sky were extremly heartfelt, his comments regarding the city and the people were a nice touch, not sure if he was signalling that he might be open to reduced terms , anyway he will be missed if not, good pro some nice touches some memorable goals, all the best Andrea! Adios !

Orlandi was the most gifted "FOOTBALL" player we had. His close control and speed of thought was far greater than the sum total of football "brains" of Nathan Jones and the suits put together.
If we are retaining players like Andrews who's passing and vision is Conference class and getting rid of Andrea - then we are going backwards not forwards in my opinion.
Lopez I never liked and was disappointed he was signed on for another year.
Hoskins was gifted but will never be given the chance. Kuszac was an excellent keeper - but prone to panic on the big occasions. Brezovan was always a non-starter.

Grabban sold for £3m (cost nothing) - Bournemouth under Howe always buy cheap and sell big. The irony is that Danny Ings probably worth about £15m - was bought by Howe for Burnley when he was their manager for a meagre £2m FROM Bournemouth!
Conway was class - but why we never signed him has not been disclosed. No doubt another budgetary reason.

Sometimes in football it pays to speculate to accumulate. Imagine if the suits had been around to tell Micky Adams that £100,000 was too much to pay for Zamora from Bristol Rovers! He was a massive reason we had 2 successive promotions - which brought us in a large amount of revenue
and we sold him for £1.5m. Bristol Rovers had a sell-on clause so got a fair bit of that money. We had a sell-on clause for Zamora when we sold him but never got a penny from Spurs when they sold him to West-Ham - as he was part of a 2-player exchange deal - and they conveniently (for them) valued him at nothing to avoid paying any money to us. Another example of a football con and Brighton being stitched-up!
I tend to agree that all this FFP adherence will have been a waste of time in terms of Brighton gaining a big advantage over the over-spenders in terms of them being heavily penalised. Big fines are likely to be circumvented by legal loopholes - and the likes of QPR, Blackburn and Forest will get away with derisory punishments.

Back to Orlandi. Thanks for the memories of some superb football skills under Gus Poyet. You were a star member of the team which nearly won promotion under Gus - until he got strops with TB and the suits - and virtually handed the game to Palace.
It's a mystery why the headless chickens who run this club don't value you. i am not surprised that they did the dirty on you - as it came as a complete surprise to you. You are better off out of this club - which is carrying out it's business without oppenness and transparency. No manager worth his salt would allow himself to be dictated to by others - when it comes to transfers. Typical of the way the money men think they are in control.

No! The one's in control are the fans - because it is they who keep the club going. No fans - no club. Simple!

I am getting very disillusioned by the internal "politics" at the AMEX.

I do see your point, but you have to look at other statmentes by Andrea made that point to a rift either in the club or between him and the club, he had a problem with the club Doctors and physiosthrapists with regard to his recovery from injurys is much as I do like about the guy, he may have been disruptive? We will never know, maybe the door is open maybe it is closed to him, we will never know, we just have to trust in the people in the club and TB's leadership I just find it so difficult to be confident when Barber is there with his spin, for example at the beginning of last year we were told the player Budget for Oscar would be the same as Gus had, yet just a week before the end of the season oscar in an interview was quoted as saying we achived despite being the only club to have a reduced budget, more evidence of not just spin by the chief executive but what at worse a lie at best mis information
I am sorry but more and more poor managment appears to be a possibility that we have a problem in our senior managment communication with the fans, apparently people fans were consulted re benetts field car park and the changes that have been adopted, I have asked at least 50 people who park there were you consulted no not a one maybe I just got lucky or possibly guilty of spin.
Were I to be making the decisions unless Andrea had injury problems I would be talking to him,.
Would Seattle have Barber back if he were available, mmmmnmnn now there poses a question!

[quote][p][bold]Vince[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Bucket feet Duffy[/bold] wrote:
I felt Andrea's comments on sky were extremly heartfelt, his comments regarding the city and the people were a nice touch, not sure if he was signalling that he might be open to reduced terms , anyway he will be missed if not, good pro some nice touches some memorable goals, all the best Andrea! Adios ![/p][/quote]Orlandi was the most gifted "FOOTBALL" player we had. His close control and speed of thought was far greater than the sum total of football "brains" of Nathan Jones and the suits put together.
If we are retaining players like Andrews who's passing and vision is Conference class and getting rid of Andrea - then we are going backwards not forwards in my opinion.
Lopez I never liked and was disappointed he was signed on for another year.
Hoskins was gifted but will never be given the chance. Kuszac was an excellent keeper - but prone to panic on the big occasions. Brezovan was always a non-starter.
Grabban sold for £3m (cost nothing) - Bournemouth under Howe always buy cheap and sell big. The irony is that Danny Ings probably worth about £15m - was bought by Howe for Burnley when he was their manager for a meagre £2m FROM Bournemouth!
Conway was class - but why we never signed him has not been disclosed. No doubt another budgetary reason.
Sometimes in football it pays to speculate to accumulate. Imagine if the suits had been around to tell Micky Adams that £100,000 was too much to pay for Zamora from Bristol Rovers! He was a massive reason we had 2 successive promotions - which brought us in a large amount of revenue
and we sold him for £1.5m. Bristol Rovers had a sell-on clause so got a fair bit of that money. We had a sell-on clause for Zamora when we sold him but never got a penny from Spurs when they sold him to West-Ham - as he was part of a 2-player exchange deal - and they conveniently (for them) valued him at nothing to avoid paying any money to us. Another example of a football con and Brighton being stitched-up!
I tend to agree that all this FFP adherence will have been a waste of time in terms of Brighton gaining a big advantage over the over-spenders in terms of them being heavily penalised. Big fines are likely to be circumvented by legal loopholes - and the likes of QPR, Blackburn and Forest will get away with derisory punishments.
Back to Orlandi. Thanks for the memories of some superb football skills under Gus Poyet. You were a star member of the team which nearly won promotion under Gus - until he got strops with TB and the suits - and virtually handed the game to Palace.
It's a mystery why the headless chickens who run this club don't value you. i am not surprised that they did the dirty on you - as it came as a complete surprise to you. You are better off out of this club - which is carrying out it's business without oppenness and transparency. No manager worth his salt would allow himself to be dictated to by others - when it comes to transfers. Typical of the way the money men think they are in control.
No! The one's in control are the fans - because it is they who keep the club going. No fans - no club. Simple!
I am getting very disillusioned by the internal "politics" at the AMEX.[/p][/quote]I do see your point, but you have to look at other statmentes by Andrea made that point to a rift either in the club or between him and the club, he had a problem with the club Doctors and physiosthrapists with regard to his recovery from injurys is much as I do like about the guy, he may have been disruptive? We will never know, maybe the door is open maybe it is closed to him, we will never know, we just have to trust in the people in the club and TB's leadership I just find it so difficult to be confident when Barber is there with his spin, for example at the beginning of last year we were told the player Budget for Oscar would be the same as Gus had, yet just a week before the end of the season oscar in an interview was quoted as saying we achived despite being the only club to have a reduced budget, more evidence of not just spin by the chief executive but what at worse a lie at best mis information
I am sorry but more and more poor managment appears to be a possibility that we have a problem in our senior managment communication with the fans, apparently people fans were consulted re benetts field car park and the changes that have been adopted, I have asked at least 50 people who park there were you consulted no not a one maybe I just got lucky or possibly guilty of spin.
Were I to be making the decisions unless Andrea had injury problems I would be talking to him,.
Would Seattle have Barber back if he were available, mmmmnmnn now there poses a question!Bucket feet Duffy

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I felt Andrea's comments on sky were extremly heartfelt, his comments regarding the city and the people were a nice touch, not sure if he was signalling that he might be open to reduced terms , anyway he will be missed if not, good pro some nice touches some memorable goals, all the best Andrea! Adios !

Orlandi was the most gifted "FOOTBALL" player we had. His close control and speed of thought was far greater than the sum total of football "brains" of Nathan Jones and the suits put together.
If we are retaining players like Andrews who's passing and vision is Conference class and getting rid of Andrea - then we are going backwards not forwards in my opinion.
Lopez I never liked and was disappointed he was signed on for another year.
Hoskins was gifted but will never be given the chance. Kuszac was an excellent keeper - but prone to panic on the big occasions. Brezovan was always a non-starter.

Grabban sold for £3m (cost nothing) - Bournemouth under Howe always buy cheap and sell big. The irony is that Danny Ings probably worth about £15m - was bought by Howe for Burnley when he was their manager for a meagre £2m FROM Bournemouth!
Conway was class - but why we never signed him has not been disclosed. No doubt another budgetary reason.

Sometimes in football it pays to speculate to accumulate. Imagine if the suits had been around to tell Micky Adams that £100,000 was too much to pay for Zamora from Bristol Rovers! He was a massive reason we had 2 successive promotions - which brought us in a large amount of revenue
and we sold him for £1.5m. Bristol Rovers had a sell-on clause so got a fair bit of that money. We had a sell-on clause for Zamora when we sold him but never got a penny from Spurs when they sold him to West-Ham - as he was part of a 2-player exchange deal - and they conveniently (for them) valued him at nothing to avoid paying any money to us. Another example of a football con and Brighton being stitched-up!
I tend to agree that all this FFP adherence will have been a waste of time in terms of Brighton gaining a big advantage over the over-spenders in terms of them being heavily penalised. Big fines are likely to be circumvented by legal loopholes - and the likes of QPR, Blackburn and Forest will get away with derisory punishments.

Back to Orlandi. Thanks for the memories of some superb football skills under Gus Poyet. You were a star member of the team which nearly won promotion under Gus - until he got strops with TB and the suits - and virtually handed the game to Palace.
It's a mystery why the headless chickens who run this club don't value you. i am not surprised that they did the dirty on you - as it came as a complete surprise to you. You are better off out of this club - which is carrying out it's business without oppenness and transparency. No manager worth his salt would allow himself to be dictated to by others - when it comes to transfers. Typical of the way the money men think they are in control.

No! The one's in control are the fans - because it is they who keep the club going. No fans - no club. Simple!

I am getting very disillusioned by the internal "politics" at the AMEX.

I do see your point, but you have to look at other statmentes by Andrea made that point to a rift either in the club or between him and the club, he had a problem with the club Doctors and physiosthrapists with regard to his recovery from injurys is much as I do like about the guy, he may have been disruptive? We will never know, maybe the door is open maybe it is closed to him, we will never know, we just have to trust in the people in the club and TB's leadership I just find it so difficult to be confident when Barber is there with his spin, for example at the beginning of last year we were told the player Budget for Oscar would be the same as Gus had, yet just a week before the end of the season oscar in an interview was quoted as saying we achived despite being the only club to have a reduced budget, more evidence of not just spin by the chief executive but what at worse a lie at best mis information
I am sorry but more and more poor managment appears to be a possibility that we have a problem in our senior managment communication with the fans, apparently people fans were consulted re benetts field car park and the changes that have been adopted, I have asked at least 50 people who park there were you consulted no not a one maybe I just got lucky or possibly guilty of spin.
Were I to be making the decisions unless Andrea had injury problems I would be talking to him,.
Would Seattle have Barber back if he were available, mmmmnmnn now there poses a question!

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