12/5 How does an airplane know its true speed instead of air speed? Thanks.
\_ African or European? -John
\_ radar, possibly GPS
\_ oh yeah, you can get heading/speed via radar if you're
on IFR or on VRF flight following. -csua pilot
\_ http://www.csgnetwork.com/tasinfocalc.html
\_ That computes true air speed, not ground speed. -geordan
\_ what exactly is the difference between the two?
\_ If you're flying at an air speed of 300MPH eastward in some wind
whose speed is 50MPH westward, your true speed is only 250MPH.
\_ but i get screwed in physics question when they think
the instrument panel shows true speed. :(
\_ there is the true airspeed, indicated airspeed, and ground speed.
You get true airspeed by taking in account of indicated airspeed
and the environment (temperature, humidity, etc), and the know
calibrated errors from the airspeed indicator (indicated airspeed).
Then you get the approximate wind speed from ATIS, tower, or
other reliable source, recalibrate it (since wind speed is always
true north whereas your heading indicator is always magnetic
north). From those variables you can get a pretty precise ground
speed. However, GPS makes it a lot easier. -csua pilot who
quit being a programmer and is now flying turboprops in
the midwest
\- csua pilot: what are those sign like A45 R16 etc you
see by the side of runways at commercial airports.
i think they sometimes have arrows on them.
\_ A45? Don't think that exists. Suppose you see A16.
It means you're at the approach end of runway 16 and
that you better hold short of runway till clearance
from ground. A15-33 means you're approaching runway
15-33. Runway numbers are aligned to the magnet north
rounded up/down and the last digit is omitted. For
example, 15-33 means runway 15x-33x (same runway).
Say 33x is 330, then it is aligned 330 degrees and
330-180 (150) degrees. All of this information is
readily availabe on the annual publication of FAR/AIM
which is easily accessible even at Borders/B&N. If
you're really curious, go to your local flying club
and fly a plane for once! It'll be the most exhilirating
$50 you'll ever spend in your life. http://www.beapilot.com
\- oh ok good. yeah i was guessing it has something to do
bearings, but was wondering why i didnt see larger
numbers. now why in large planes, do they open the
window shades for landing [so passengers arnt
disquieted?] and turn the cabin lights on/off
during takeoff/landings.
\_ in the old days (and when you're training as a
a pilot), you turn off all the non-essential
power-hogs so that during take off you don't
overload the circuitry and blow off fuses. This
procedure has been passed down for historical
reasons and we [airlines] still do it just
because it works. As for the shades, it's just
to shut the damn passengers -csua pilot
\_ actually there have been cases where the
passenger notices something wrong with the
wing or the fuselage (which is not caught
in the sensors). But like I said all the
non-essential stuff is secondary to
flying.
\_ yeah, like the time the passenger saw
that little monster on the wing and he
was tearing apart the wing and no one
would believe him
\_ yeah!! where was that??
\_ I think it was an X-Files episode.
\_ Maybe, but it was definitely a
Twilight Zone episode.
\_ Episode with William
Shatner; in the movie with
John Lithgow.

12/5 Santorum: That frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is
sometimes the byproduct of anal sex.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Savage_Love
\_ Somehow I'd expect no less. Charming. The irony is he is
right. Polygamists and pedophiles have already invoked
Lawrence. Are you a member of NAMBLA?
\_ url?
\_ He can't give you an URL, because he's a lying troll.
\_ link:csua.org/u/55w
For the polygamy claim. Haven't seen one for pedophilia, but
you can expect it.
\_ ZEDO is an add server. I can't get this link. could
someone provide a text version? thanks.
\_ awesome. the term finally found a meaning!
\_ Umm, I don't really see what Dan (funny fucker btw) was upset about.
I didn't see the original article but in the quote given at the wiki
there is no mention of pedophelia. Obviously Lawrence can not be
effectively used vis-a-vis pedo. But why not polygamy? Who here
thinks polygamy is a LESS valid form of marriage than gay marriage?
Anyone? Of course it's not. People (consentingable) should be able
to enter into any kind of "marriage" contract they like and the
gubmnt should respect it. -phuqm
\_ no one's stopping you from living with a bunch of chicks and
calling them your wives, as long as they don't mind. the
government doesn't have to legally recognize them as your
wives though. maybe i'd like to call you my bitch, but the
government doesn't have to recognize that either. at least
theoretically, what the majority decides is valid is what
will, eventually, come to pass in this country.
\_ I was a bit confused. This is about sodomy not gay marriage
That being said, I still don't see what Dan was upset about
Do you think that the courts SHOULD allow laws agin' incest
but not against sodomy? Clearly they shouldn't. Clearly
incest and sodomy are equally repugnant to some and there is
no reasonable basis on which to say one is worse than the
other. Or that only one should be prohibitable by law -phuqm
\_ phuqm is my hero. Can I sodomize you, phuqm?
--phuqm #1 fan
\_ If you were REALLY my #1 fan you would ask if you
could by sodomized BY me. Still, i've been waiting
to have someone sign a post this way, and the bright
sunshiney day has finally arrived. -phuqm
as for the generally accepted "coming to pass". That may be
true but far from optimal. One generation has been taught
that it's ok to be gay and says "o.k. same sex marriages are
ok, but you guys and your polygamy that's just perverse.
We're not standing for that." Is this reasonable? I'm
really curious to know what you CSUAers think. Poll Time:
(poll moved to top).
\_ "State laws against bigamy, same-sex marriage, adult incest,
prostitution, masturbation, adultery, fornication, bestiality,
and obscenity are likewise sustainable only in light of Bowers'
validation of laws based on moral choices." -Antonin Scalia
There are laws against masturbation? Wow, some CSUAers are
really hardcore criminals then, I guess.
\_ right, so Scalia and I basically agree (It is amazing how
it is in the disscenting opinions of the
supreme court where reason is most likely to be found):
Either legislators have the right to enforce their own
moral code in regards to sex between consenting adults or
they don't (I exclude bestiality, being an animal rights
nut). Though Scalia abhors this decision and I applaud
it. (From a "this is the way *I* think it should be
libertarian view, not a legal one, which i haven't
considered in this case.) -phuqm
gay marriages are ok by not polygamy:
create whatever wacky marriage you want: .
(assuming consenting adults)
man-woman is the only marriage gov should recognize:

12/5 Anyone know of something like dummynet for Win2000/XP? I've found
a windows version of iptables, but all it allows is accept/deny. I
need something that I can use for traffic shaping. Alternately, is
there a reasonably cheap router that has good traffic shaping?
\_ yermom is reasonably cheap, and accepts all shaped traffic,
windows or no
\_ Yeah, but I heard yermom was full-up till next month...

12/5 YAMP:
gay marriages are ok by not polygamy:
create whatever wacky marriage you want: ...
(assuming consenting adults)
man-woman is the only marriage gov should recognize:
polygomy is ok but not gay marriages: .
\_ For phuqm:
You're right, on the face of it, polygamy and incest are not acts
against which a blanket law would take into account all of the
circumstances surrounding any any given situation. Unfortunately,
we lack the means of divining whether a relation continues due to
active, participatory consent or because of undue influence
exerted by one of the individuals. In effect, we lack a law
against emotional blackmail and psychic domination. Current
incest laws seek to provide legal recourse to individuals who may
otherwise be kept in relationships against their will because of
the inherent authority some family members wield over other family
members. Current polygamy laws are a reflection of the growth of
women's rights, a set of rights that are often denigrated or
diminished in a traditional polygamous relationship; the goal is
to provide a legal means of protecting people who may not
understand that they have the right to be other than barefoot and
pregnant and in the kitchen. What about the rights of the
individual? In incest, if an adult and fully consenting brother
and sister really love each other _that_ much, they could maintain
their relationship with little fear of public persecution provided
that they exercise a modicum of discretion. How many people have
been prosecuted for consensual adult incest? (Don't bother
mentioning Lord Byron; we're talking modern.) As for polygamy,
well, as has been mentioned here, as long as you don't obtain a
marriage license for each of your marriages, it's not a crime to
simply cohabitate.
\_ But those who cohabitate with you would not qualify for domestic
partners benefits...
\_ http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2003/04/03/57389-ap.html
\_ phuqm, is this you?
http://www.museworld.com/archives/2003_06.html#001027

12/6 csua pilot, why did you quit your cushy high paying job in Silicon
Valley? Are you stupid or something?
\_ your and idiot.
\_ troll quality has gone down as of late.
\_ Sorry, I have been away from the Internet for a class.
I will try to make up for it next week. -#1 Troll

12/6 If you're reading this, you have internet access, free time, and
and interest in politics--time to turn on cspan and listen to the
democratic candidates. http://www.cspan.org
\_ "Why should I waste my beautiful mind on things like that."
Barbara Bush