Supposedly works for the org in some manner, or is otherwise very close to the team. Usually his info is pretty reliable...

He hasn't given up any real info since the Ben Wallace deal. He is a talking piece used to feed the fans info that is mean to push them in one direction or another, typically that info is centered around spin jobs.

He is no more a real source of information than Cavs.com at this point and that is why I quit bothering to read him.

BTW: for years he has posted the exact opposite of what was dropped above. The complete and utter exact opposite w/ plenty of 100% promises.

Bron talking about having the "right mindset" heading into the off-season "Festivities"

Hey Bron, where was the right mindset for this series?

Overall though, the interview was blah. Nothing to deduce from it other than it was significantly different in my eyes from his demeanor this year to last year's.

Playing here is the closest thing to heaven. Really, I mean it's amazing to be in a place where the fans truly cherish their football team and stick behind them win or lose. We players love them, too. I feel a sense of accomplishment playing here, we are a special breed of football players with a great opportunity." ~ tOSU LB Brian Rolle

I just cannot get myself too worked up over some guy. He may be the King and I have huge respect for him as a player, but for some reason it just doesn't bother me if he leaves. I won't wait in line, and I just don't worry about what these, media whore type people do...

No hate, don't know if that makes sense to anyone...

"When a man with money meets a man with experience, the man with experience leaves with money and the man with money leaves with experience."

Supposedly works for the org in some manner, or is otherwise very close to the team. Usually his info is pretty reliable...

He hasn't given up any real info since the Ben Wallace deal. He is a talking piece used to feed the fans info that is mean to push them in one direction or another, typically that info is centered around spin jobs.

He is no more a real source of information than Cavs.com at this point and that is why I quit bothering to read him.

BTW: for years he has posted the exact opposite of what was dropped above. The complete and utter exact opposite w/ plenty of 100% promises.

Supposedly works for the org in some manner, or is otherwise very close to the team. Usually his info is pretty reliable...

He hasn't given up any real info since the Ben Wallace deal. He is a talking piece used to feed the fans info that is mean to push them in one direction or another, typically that info is centered around spin jobs.

He is no more a real source of information than Cavs.com at this point and that is why I quit bothering to read him.

BTW: for years he has posted the exact opposite of what was dropped above. The complete and utter exact opposite w/ plenty of 100% promises.

Okay I stopped paying attention to him around the 2009 trade deadline, almost shaq deal, thanks for the heads up.

Too hard to deal with RCF...

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"When a man with money meets a man with experience, the man with experience leaves with money and the man with money leaves with experience."

The only thing he did during that interview of note was throw Brown under the bus for his failure to maneuver and adjust in-game. Gilbert officially has 45 days to bring in a head coach that will convince LBJ that he can win here.

CP wrote:The only thing he did during that interview of note was throw Brown under the bus for his failure to maneuver and adjust in-game. Gilbert officially has 45 days to bring in a head coach that will convince LBJ that he can win here.

This opens a whole nother can of worms.

You cannot hire a coach w/ out LBJ in tow and you cannot get LBJ in tow w/out a coach.

This is going to be a dog chasing its tail situation and I'm not looking forward to it.

CP wrote:The only thing he did during that interview of note was throw Brown under the bus for his failure to maneuver and adjust in-game. Gilbert officially has 45 days to bring in a head coach that will convince LBJ that he can win here.

This opens a whole nother can of worms.

You cannot hire a coach w/ out LBJ in tow and you cannot get LBJ in tow w/out a coach.

This is going to be a dog chasing its tail situation and I'm not looking forward to it.

Nah. You just get em both in the same room with the contracts on the table.

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noles1 wrote:Overall though, the interview was blah. Nothing to deduce from it other than it was significantly different in my eyes from his demeanor this year to last year's.

That is what is sticking w/ me more than even the loss.

WTF happened there?

It's beyond puzzling and the first thing that has made me think he may actually be gone.

The difference between Game 3 Lebron and the rest of this series was literally the most drastic change in a player I have ever seen. Any sport.

The more I look back at it, I wonder if it actually had more to do with Jay-Z being there then anything else?

I mean, that sounds INSANE but the more thought I give, it's the most plausible explanation I can come up with. He played 5 other "blah" games really except for when Hova was there.

The guy has become a full-fledged enigma in the span of 10 days. More so then he ever was in the past.

Playing here is the closest thing to heaven. Really, I mean it's amazing to be in a place where the fans truly cherish their football team and stick behind them win or lose. We players love them, too. I feel a sense of accomplishment playing here, we are a special breed of football players with a great opportunity." ~ tOSU LB Brian Rolle

You cannot hire a coach w/ out LBJ in tow and you cannot get LBJ in tow w/out a coach.

This is going to be a dog chasing its tail situation and I'm not looking forward to it.

Yeah, hopefully the organization has already laid the behind-the-scenes groundwork for this. This will be an excruciating offseason where Chicago and Cleveland will most obviously be fighting for the same player/coach combination.

The question the Bulls will have to answer for LBJ is where the rest of the roster is going to come from. He'll be the 8th guy under contract for that team if he just signs a FA deal, which is why I think the Bulls' best chance is to sign Wade to a max deal and somehow work a sign & trade with Cleveland for LeBron's services.

You cannot hire a coach w/ out LBJ in tow and you cannot get LBJ in tow w/out a coach.

This is going to be a dog chasing its tail situation and I'm not looking forward to it.

Yeah, hopefully the organization has already laid the behind-the-scenes groundwork for this. This will be an excruciating offseason where Chicago and Cleveland will most obviously be fighting for the same player/coach combination.

The question the Bulls will have to answer for LBJ is where the rest of the roster is going to come from. He'll be the 8th guy under contract for that team if he just signs a FA deal, which is why I think the Bulls' best chance is to sign Wade to a max deal and somehow work a sign & trade with Cleveland for LeBron's services.

Larry Brown will be getting a phone call before Monday morning. Trust me.

Criminals in this town used to believe in things...honor, respect."I heard your dog is sick, so bought you this shovel"

The way this team is and was constructed you cannot just burn one of your three roster manipulation devices.

Fuck, forgot about that.

Good pull and spot on the last particular point there. The way we set this roster up, you cannot afford to NOT trade chips and peices.

Any possibility that JJ could be sign-and-traded for a valuable peice? Not sure that there's anything to move with.

Playing here is the closest thing to heaven. Really, I mean it's amazing to be in a place where the fans truly cherish their football team and stick behind them win or lose. We players love them, too. I feel a sense of accomplishment playing here, we are a special breed of football players with a great opportunity." ~ tOSU LB Brian Rolle

10 minutes left in what was a winnable game and he still had a 1,000 yard stare. The press conference was gloom and doom in a way unrelated to the series. Like he was uncomfortable about having to tell his kids the dog died. Even in there he had a presence that was almost shame and it wasn't shame in how that series went down.

It reeked of resignation.

I don't want to think about the immediate or long term future of this club with that guy gone elsewhere. I don't want to think about the long term effect on the city and potentially other sports franchises.

Call it whistling past the graveyard, but I'm hoping that over the next seven weeks cooler heads prevail and some rational thought is thrown down on all sides. Most of all, I can't stand to hear the noise for the next seven weeks.

You think losing this series and this season like they did was unbearable? Just wait and see how miserable the next couple months are. There will be no escape short of taking off and spending the summer in some cabin in remote British Columbia.

10 minutes left in what was a winnable game and he still had a 1,000 yard stare. The press conference was gloom and doom in a way unrelated to the series. Like he was uncomfortable about having to tell his kids the dog died. Even in there he had a presence that was almost shame and it wasn't shame in how that series went down.

It reeked of resignation.

I don't want to think about the immediate or long term future of this club with that guy gone elsewhere. I don't want to think about the long term effect on the city and potentially other sports franchises.

Call it whistling past the graveyard, but I'm hoping that over the next seven weeks cooler heads prevail and some rational thought is thrown down on all sides. Most of all, I can't stand to hear the noise for the next seven weeks.

You think losing this series and this season like they did was unbearable? Just wait and see how miserable the next couple months are. There will be no escape short of taking off and spending the summer in some cabin in remote British Columbia.

'Tis true that LBJ skipping town is a blow, but this city's sports conscious was alive and well before LBJ showed up, and it will be alive and well after he leaves.

FWIW: my blind aunt that doesn't exist could see that blank stare on LBJ's face this series and the withdrawn actions that became his shadow. That's why I put about as much faith in W&G actually knowing something as I do SSS having watched a Cavs game before 2003.

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You cannot hire a coach w/ out LBJ in tow and you cannot get LBJ in tow w/out a coach.

This is going to be a dog chasing its tail situation and I'm not looking forward to it.

Yeah, hopefully the organization has already laid the behind-the-scenes groundwork for this. This will be an excruciating offseason where Chicago and Cleveland will most obviously be fighting for the same player/coach combination.

The question the Bulls will have to answer for LBJ is where the rest of the roster is going to come from. He'll be the 8th guy under contract for that team if he just signs a FA deal, which is why I think the Bulls' best chance is to sign Wade to a max deal and somehow work a sign & trade with Cleveland for LeBron's services.

Larry Brown will be getting a phone call before Monday morning. Trust me.

I thought LeBron and Larry Brown didn't get along from their days on the 2004 Olympic team?

10 minutes left in what was a winnable game and he still had a 1,000 yard stare. The press conference was gloom and doom in a way unrelated to the series. Like he was uncomfortable about having to tell his kids the dog died. Even in there he had a presence that was almost shame and it wasn't shame in how that series went down.

It reeked of resignation.

I don't want to think about the immediate or long term future of this club with that guy gone elsewhere. I don't want to think about the long term effect on the city and potentially other sports franchises.

Call it whistling past the graveyard, but I'm hoping that over the next seven weeks cooler heads prevail and some rational thought is thrown down on all sides. Most of all, I can't stand to hear the noise for the next seven weeks.

You think losing this series and this season like they did was unbearable? Just wait and see how miserable the next couple months are. There will be no escape short of taking off and spending the summer in some cabin in remote British Columbia.

10 minutes left in what was a winnable game and he still had a 1,000 yard stare. The press conference was gloom and doom in a way unrelated to the series. Like he was uncomfortable about having to tell his kids the dog died. Even in there he had a presence that was almost shame and it wasn't shame in how that series went down.

It reeked of resignation.

I don't want to think about the immediate or long term future of this club with that guy gone elsewhere. I don't want to think about the long term effect on the city and potentially other sports franchises.

Call it whistling past the graveyard, but I'm hoping that over the next seven weeks cooler heads prevail and some rational thought is thrown down on all sides. Most of all, I can't stand to hear the noise for the next seven weeks.

You think losing this series and this season like they did was unbearable? Just wait and see how miserable the next couple months are. There will be no escape short of taking off and spending the summer in some cabin in remote British Columbia.

'Tis true that LBJ skipping town is a blow, but this city's sports conscious was alive and well before LBJ showed up, and it will be alive and well after he leaves.

Sucks he's gone.

Life goes on.

Go Browns.

The city doesn't have a sports conscious, they bandwagon two teams when the going is good and follow a franchise run about as horribly as a professional franchise could be into the fire for no good reason annually.

10 minutes left in what was a winnable game and he still had a 1,000 yard stare. The press conference was gloom and doom in a way unrelated to the series. Like he was uncomfortable about having to tell his kids the dog died. Even in there he had a presence that was almost shame and it wasn't shame in how that series went down.

It reeked of resignation.

I don't want to think about the immediate or long term future of this club with that guy gone elsewhere. I don't want to think about the long term effect on the city and potentially other sports franchises.

Call it whistling past the graveyard, but I'm hoping that over the next seven weeks cooler heads prevail and some rational thought is thrown down on all sides. Most of all, I can't stand to hear the noise for the next seven weeks.

You think losing this series and this season like they did was unbearable? Just wait and see how miserable the next couple months are. There will be no escape short of taking off and spending the summer in some cabin in remote British Columbia.

'Tis true that LBJ skipping town is a blow, but this city's sports conscious was alive and well before LBJ showed up, and it will be alive and well after he leaves.

Sucks he's gone.

Life goes on.

Go Browns.

The city doesn't have a sports conscious, they bandwagon two teams when the going is good and follow a franchise run about as horribly as a professional franchise could be into the fire for no good reason annually.

Exactly. That's the city's sports conscious.

That's how we'll somehow "survive" LBJ's defection.

The Cavs & Injuns come & go. For better or for worse, this is a football town.

Simply don’t believe he was afraid. Maybe he was conspiring to tank to grease his exit, but couldn't he do that just as easily with a championship in his pocket, or a balls to the wall failed effort? Only thing that makes any sense is he was hurt. He shot beautifully in game 3, smooth and confident. He could barely hit the rim in game 5.

He's still not off the hook, though. If he could have put up an effort like tonight at home in game 5, instead of looking shell shocked and sullen, he there was a better chance of the rest of the team stepping up at home than tonight on the road. We might have won at home with him at 60% like tonight. Did he hurt much more Tues.? He owes us an explanation, but of course, only if he leaves. If he stays, I'll be much more willing to forgive and assume it was the elbow. Also, why no Cortisone or Lidocaine shot if the elbow really wasn't structurally worse than he said. Again, I'd like to know.

I can't believe he goes to Chi, and is forever in MJ's shadow. He dreams of MSG, and he wears a Yankee hat. Chi just doesn't make sense.

Ok, and finally, could this team win with a healthy LB. You all know what I think of Ferry and the current roster. But with LB, who knows? Does LB? Say he doesn't think we're good enough. What drastic action can be taken?

Well, how about strong arming Miami or Toronto. How about LB telling Wade or Bosh or Joe Johnson or Boozer, I’m staying, and I want to play with you. Tell your team either work a sign and trade with Cle, or that you walk to NY. Period. Then LB could really claim to be a tycoon on the Buffet level. Details could be worked out, expirings, draft picks, 3d party teams. Put a gun top their heads and see what happens. Would Ferry pull it off? Of course not.

I cannot believe the lack of fight the Cavs put up not just in this game but especially last night.There was never a heightened level of intensity or a sense of urgency from anyone, mainly because there was such apathy and lethargy from LeBron, I think his seemingly lack of interest and poor effort infected the rest of the team who feed off him. Some leader you are LeBron. I even clocked him moaning at his team-mates for his own mistakes.

What another waste of a season.Cavs didn't look like the Cavs of this year in this series.They weren't dynamic, moving the ball well, fast paced or cohesive.

They looked broken up and in games 5 and 6 like a team already beaten, going through it's death throes.

I'm quite disgusted and it's plain to see the coaching staff needs a massive overhaul and we need a young dominant big like Bosh. (If LeBron does stay that is)

"There is but one thing of real value: to cultivate truth and justice and to live without anger in the midst of lying and unjust men"

10 minutes left in what was a winnable game and he still had a 1,000 yard stare. The press conference was gloom and doom in a way unrelated to the series. Like he was uncomfortable about having to tell his kids the dog died. Even in there he had a presence that was almost shame and it wasn't shame in how that series went down.

It reeked of resignation.

I don't want to think about the immediate or long term future of this club with that guy gone elsewhere. I don't want to think about the long term effect on the city and potentially other sports franchises.

Call it whistling past the graveyard, but I'm hoping that over the next seven weeks cooler heads prevail and some rational thought is thrown down on all sides. Most of all, I can't stand to hear the noise for the next seven weeks.

You think losing this series and this season like they did was unbearable? Just wait and see how miserable the next couple months are. There will be no escape short of taking off and spending the summer in some cabin in remote British Columbia.

'Tis true that LBJ skipping town is a blow, but this city's sports conscious was alive and well before LBJ showed up, and it will be alive and well after he leaves.

Sucks he's gone.

Life goes on.

Go Browns.

The city doesn't have a sports conscious, they bandwagon two teams when the going is good and follow a franchise run about as horribly as a professional franchise could be into the fire for no good reason annually.

Exactly. That's the city's sports conscious.

That's how we'll somehow "survive" LBJ's defection.

The Cavs & Injuns come & go. For better or for worse, this is a football town.

You only have Cleveland sports mediocrity to lament about if LeBron leaves

I've got West Brom fighting relegation in the Premier League next season and England's guaranteed loss on penalties in the semis of the World Cup this summer

I need LBJ more than anyone lol

"There is but one thing of real value: to cultivate truth and justice and to live without anger in the midst of lying and unjust men"

I think Ferry has did what all he could do. I still liked the Shaq and Jamison moves this year. We played well against the Magic, Lakers, and Celtics this season. Even that loss to the Celtics in April - we still nearly beat them with 3 of our starters out. This team, as it was built, can win it all.

I don't agree with Garnett's assessment on loyalty and youth. The difference between here and Minnesota is that we have an owner driven to win and has put his money where his mouth is. Nobody can't say that this owner doesn't care and hasn't done everything in his power to treat LBJ and his family right, and to win a championship. Jordan, Bird, Magic...they all had loyalty and they all won.

But this team doesn't show up in the playoffs. And for the past two weeks, LBJ's behavior is been inexplicable. It's bizarre, even. This team quit this series. I don't know if LBJ has checked out or is injured that badly, I don't know if there's a mutiny against Mike Brown, or if this team doesn't have the mental toughness to win in the playoffs.

I can handle losing to a better team. I give the Celtics all the credit for being hungry and the world class defense they displayed. But I know this team can, at the very least, compete with the Celtics and the rest of the league. What I CAN'T handle is quitting. And this team, and LBJ specifically, quit on us.

If he goes, he goes. I'm resigned to that now. It's a bitter pill to swallow, but as a native Clevelander, you tend to get used to it. LBJ has brought this all on himself - the good, the bad, and the ugly. It would be a relief to all parties if he would just stop with the circus and attention whoring and make his intentions clear. Just end it because, I'm sick of it. And if he's going to quit on us - then good riddance. Cleveland might be a lot of things - but one thing I know for certain growing up there that it is not a town of quitters.

There's going to be a lot of major reconstructioning whether or not LBJ stays or goes. So lets do it so we can start to move on - with or without LBJ.

10 minutes left in what was a winnable game and he still had a 1,000 yard stare. The press conference was gloom and doom in a way unrelated to the series. Like he was uncomfortable about having to tell his kids the dog died. Even in there he had a presence that was almost shame and it wasn't shame in how that series went down.

It reeked of resignation.

I don't want to think about the immediate or long term future of this club with that guy gone elsewhere. I don't want to think about the long term effect on the city and potentially other sports franchises.

Call it whistling past the graveyard, but I'm hoping that over the next seven weeks cooler heads prevail and some rational thought is thrown down on all sides. Most of all, I can't stand to hear the noise for the next seven weeks.

You think losing this series and this season like they did was unbearable? Just wait and see how miserable the next couple months are. There will be no escape short of taking off and spending the summer in some cabin in remote British Columbia.

'Tis true that LBJ skipping town is a blow, but this city's sports conscious was alive and well before LBJ showed up, and it will be alive and well after he leaves.

Sucks he's gone.

Life goes on.

Go Browns.

The city doesn't have a sports conscious, they bandwagon two teams when the going is good and follow a franchise run about as horribly as a professional franchise could be into the fire for no good reason annually.

Exactly. That's the city's sports conscious.

That's how we'll somehow "survive" LBJ's defection.

The Cavs & Injuns come & go. For better or for worse, this is a football town.

IF he does take off this summer then this will be the first time since the early 70s that all 3 of our sport's teams will really suck together (other than a year here and there)...

We would then have to put all of our trust into a dude who doesn't even play the game on the lakefront...

I'm just gonna save a lot of time and just say that I'm melting. I'm melting the fuck down. Nothing about this series made sense to me all the way down to how Lebron walked off the court. Puzzling to say the least. At this point, I'm just assuming that LBJ is gone but hoping against hope that he makes me a liar. God I hope he does. Lebron was suppose to break the curse but instead he just added one of the most depressing chapters to it on his way out the door (possibly).

Get ready for a NBA/Star Wars take. This reminds me of when Obi Wan cut off Anakins legs and screamed, "You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them. You were to bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness!" but instead it's Dan Gilbert throwing all his money at LBJ and Lebron still walking away and Ferry yelling, "You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Celtics, not join the Nets. You were to bring championships to the Cavs, not lay an egg on your way out!"