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ProFootballTalk on NBCSports.comFri, 09 Dec 2016 15:43:22 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: granadafanhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/24/nfl-cancels-rookie-symposium/#comment-1077259
Wed, 25 May 2011 00:13:25 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1077259The NFL can teach them until their blue in the face. However, the ultimate responsibility lies with the player. Yes, they are adults, but a windfall like this is like giving bag of candy to a kid. Even other grown people blow through a lottery win. They need to surround themselves with people who have their best interests at heart, not those in posses, entourages, lazy and greedy family members with their hands out all the time, crooked financial “advisors”, etc.

Sometimes you just can’t take the ghetto out of the player. No amount of money will ever buy class.

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Tue, 24 May 2011 15:35:06 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076551sterling was right. my bad.
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Tue, 24 May 2011 15:32:32 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076544The NFC was on NBC, sterling.
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Tue, 24 May 2011 15:16:36 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076522To “thingamajig”, the owners approved the last bargain agreement because Jerry Jones made a new deal taking the NFC from CBS and putting them on FOX for a substantial amount of increase, therefore the owners went with Jerry Jones when he negotiated the last deal. Hence Jerry Jones & owners are going to make up for lost ground and make up for his mistake of the last bargaining agreement by taking a very strict stance and not cave in. Believe it or not, like it or not the owners will win this time and there’s nothing Demaurice can do about it.
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Tue, 24 May 2011 14:35:21 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076472Sterling7 says:
May 24, 2011 8:27 AM
If you believe anything believe this. The Owners got a raw deal last time, it won’t happen this time.

The last deal was so bad that 30 of the 32 owners voted to approve it.

]]>By: endzonezombiehttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/24/nfl-cancels-rookie-symposium/#comment-1076451
Tue, 24 May 2011 14:21:56 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076451Eventually this CBA mess will get solved, and after it does, IMHO the media retrospect will point the finger of blame at the owners. The little that they may gain will be measured against the enormous distrust they earn from the players and public alike. I think one reason the impasse has lasted so long is that the owners feel they need to show a significant gain to justify the potential harm they have done to the game. The players realize that the biggest issues in this quest for a new CBA are the disportionate revenue sharing problems between the owners. That is the reason that the owners opted out of the previous CBA – the revenue sharing formula – and they are trying to solve their own internal rich-teams-supporting-the-poor-teams probelm by having the players kick money in. The owners don’t want to open the books because it will reveal that overall the NFL teams are making a lot of money, but much of it is flowing to a few large market teams who then have to subsidize poorly managed smaller market teams.
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Tue, 24 May 2011 14:19:11 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076449Point being.You’ll get what you paid for.
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Tue, 24 May 2011 14:17:30 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076445We all know what Brett Favre will be doing on Sundays. Calling Jen Sterger over to a nearby hotel!..
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Tue, 24 May 2011 14:17:00 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076444It’s amazing the pro-player side believes the union completed all the decertification paperwork, and the filings for the anti-trust suit in just 5 minutes. Everyone runs around accusing the owners of planning the lockout all along, but not noticing the players just miraculously had all the paperwork ready to go….

The anti-trust suits are the reason for the lockout and the reason that simply lifting the lockout and going with the 2010 CBA is difficult. Anything the league does now is in possible violation of an anti-trust suit. Not to mention the fact that the owners opted out of the CBA precisely because it is not something they felt they couldn’t financially live with long-term.

And this doesn’t even touch the other fact that in any new deal, the players aren’t going to make less. Salaries will continue to increase -just not as fast.

And regardless of all the blaming, the fact is the players have had 2 offers put on the table, along with a concession to not use bargaining against them in the court cases, and yet the players have not responded to any offer, nor have they made any compromise on any position.

Until the players actually respond to something, then they can cry me a river and I don’t care.

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Tue, 24 May 2011 14:15:53 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076442If we do have a season, I believe we are going to see 16 pre-season games. That’s how all the teams are gonna play. This season is a wash.
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Tue, 24 May 2011 14:15:07 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076440For all you union haters, I wonder if you realize that a union is like a school. Just like a doctor goes to school and becomes an intern for serveral years before they’re allowed to practice a specific medical field, A builder goes to school and becomes an apprentice for 5 years before he is certified as a journeyman in a specific trade. They are the certified builders of our nation. They deserve to bargain for better wages than the uncertified. Who would you hire to build your skyscraper? Guys who have been professionally certified? Or some company that says “yeah these guys are fine.”?
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Tue, 24 May 2011 14:05:34 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076425whitecastleisafoodgroup says:
May 24, 2011 8:57 AM
So announce you’re canceling the rookie symposium and jacking up the cost of their replica jerseys by $5 on the same day?

Who the f##k is authorizing these news releases from the NFL? They need think about a new career path.
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The League didn’t “announce” they were raising replica jersey prices. The league doesn’t sell replica jerseys.

Re-read the post about the jerseys. They are sold by companies that pay the league a licensing fee. The league has no control whatsoever over the pricing of the jerseys themselves.

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Tue, 24 May 2011 13:48:17 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076402Unions, like everything else in life has it’s good and bad side but for those who believe getting rid of the union, as far as the NFL or any sport is concerned, really don’t get it.

Anyway, the NFL just sent us a loud and clear message by cancelling the RS. They don’t give a damn about anything but money. We now see that them continuing the draft was more to help their friends in the corporate run sports media and their elks and not for the rookies not lose their revenue.

Something as important as this symposium that won’t have ESPN nor the NFLN hands all over it get cancelled. Go figure.
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chapnastier says:May 24, 2011 8:22 AM

“Players, coaches, owners and league executives have all spoken favorably about the symposium through the years, saying it’s a great opportunity for young football players to learn how to manage their finances, handle the pressures that come with being in the NFL and conduct themselves as professionals. ”

Yeah it certainly has helped… oh wait.
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Just because sites like this make a big deal out of a couple of players personal and financial issues don’t mean every player is in the same boat and the symposium doesn’t work. Like everything else in life, there are always going to be those who mess up or simply live their lives their own way regardless of what they are encouraged to do.

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Tue, 24 May 2011 13:39:31 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076392In response to “buckmelanoma”, in all honesty I don’t know what to think. I absolutely love football and this whole mess makes me sick to my stomach. I’m not that stupid but could someone please explain to me how the players can make a substantial percentage more in revenue (about 60%) than the owners? The owners foot the bills and headaches from stadium costs to player salaries etc. How can players make more? Even at that there is plenty to go around. Has anyone ever noticed how much fun football was before the”big money”? They say money is the root of all evil, then they say the lack of money is the root of all evil-how about just plain greed-It’s hard for someone who makes what I make for a living to comprehend why they can’t divide this money evenly, then let’s get on with football?
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Tue, 24 May 2011 13:29:41 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076379This is sad, but I always thought that something like this should be held by the Union. The union is suppose to protect their players and teaching them how to act and use their money I think would be first on the list but I guess the union is to busy “going to the mat” and paying high price lawyers then to take the time to educated their members
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Tue, 24 May 2011 13:24:17 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076371beretta96d says: May 24, 2011 8:45 AM
This only proves how little the league really cares about the players. One event to potentially help them somehow and its canceled. Very typical of big business. Can’t make money so !#$% it.
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Or the players could take it upon themselves to set one up for the incoming rookies. They do want to be partners.

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Tue, 24 May 2011 13:11:35 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076358goes to show you how the owners no this will keep going on for ever. june 26 is over a month away and they cancelled it now ? means they know they will not negotiate or anything they will just wait for there republican judges to bail them out. i wonder how much the nfl had to give rebublican coffers for judges favorable rulings
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Tue, 24 May 2011 12:59:46 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076348What a tragedy, now these poor naive young men will have to figure out how to wipe their own butts. Demoron Smith can teach them important life skills such as – how to maximize overtime pay while appearing that your actually accomplishing something. How to speak Jibberish and still have people convinced you are providing important information. Most importantly how to wear ridiculous pimp hats in public and still have a few people take you seriously.
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Tue, 24 May 2011 12:57:20 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076345So announce you’re canceling the rookie symposium and jacking up the cost of their replica jerseys by $5 on the same day?

Who the f##k is authorizing these news releases from the NFL? They need think about a new career path.

]]>By: buckmelanomahttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/24/nfl-cancels-rookie-symposium/#comment-1076344
Tue, 24 May 2011 12:56:52 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076344So sterling7, are you supporting this tactic or simply stating what you believe will occur?
]]>By: myeaglescantwinhttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/24/nfl-cancels-rookie-symposium/#comment-1076340
Tue, 24 May 2011 12:54:06 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076340and how does anyone figure the power has shifted to the owners??
the longer this lockout continues the more power the players gain.
When the season come around , and no one is buying concessions parking & Jerseys, & the stadiums are empty that will hit the owers directly in the pockets.

Several teams are already cutting overhead and salaries. hell the browns are even trying to get outta the parkin spots they leased. .

The longer this goes on the more $$$ the owners will see they are losing. & that wont last.

I support the players who sacrafice thier bodies and lives for the game.. the owners sacrafice nothing and just want $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.. \

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Tue, 24 May 2011 12:49:11 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076330whats funny is how we hear about this queer symposium every year.

But as soon as this lockout is goin down, all we hear is how players are broke and struggling without a paycheck.
its obvious this symposium is a waste of time and money.

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Tue, 24 May 2011 12:45:02 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076320So the league calls the draft a special moment for the kids……and ratings and revenue of course, yet an event to help these kids with no revenue involved is canceled!

This only proves how little the league really cares about the players. One event to potentially help them somehow and its canceled. Very typical of big business. Can’t make money so !#$% it.

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Tue, 24 May 2011 12:37:37 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076313Damn and i was gonna go, and hang out at the hotel and offer them a 5,000 dollar loan with a 2,488% interest rate……Oh well….
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Tue, 24 May 2011 12:35:01 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076312I make alot of comments and jokes on here mostly about other AFC East teams but I can truly say as an NFL Junkie,

this is truly SAD. The game we all love is getting destroyed.

Looks like I am going to be taking my wife to the Vineyard in September (which I agreed to if there was no football) instead of my favorite 15 hours on Sunday starting with NFLN starting at 9AM EST or going to Gillette.

I truly never thought this would happen !

Sad day for everyone who visits this site.

]]>By: grpatriothttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/05/24/nfl-cancels-rookie-symposium/#comment-1076304
Tue, 24 May 2011 12:28:09 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076304Don D. Smith will be sorry he went to the mattresses! Be careful what you ask for? The way this dispute has been handled is a complete indictment of how Unions operate…
The Player’s need to evaluate how their representation is helping their cause? The momentum has shifted to the owners in a huge way!
Glazer isn’t the only one who can’t understand D. Smith ?
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Tue, 24 May 2011 12:27:11 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076302If you believe anything believe this. The Owners got a raw deal last time, it won’t happen this time. The owners are determined to break the players and they will win. Look at how immature the players are, they will eventually break rank and cave in-it’s going to happen-when I have no idea. The NFL owners simply will not settle for the raw deal they settled for last time. By the way, remember when the NFC used to be on CBS? Jerry Jones set up that deal in which the AFC is now broadcast on CBS to bring in tons more money. Jerry Jones also negotiated the last player/owner contract which is player friendly to say the least. He’s determined to turn that around and the owners are behind him. The owners will break the players-the players will cave in!
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Tue, 24 May 2011 12:22:36 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076299“Players, coaches, owners and league executives have all spoken favorably about the symposium through the years, saying it’s a great opportunity for young football players to learn how to manage their finances, handle the pressures that come with being in the NFL and conduct themselves as professionals. ”

Yeah it certainly has helped… oh wait.

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Tue, 24 May 2011 12:22:27 +0000http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=132316#comment-1076298Maybe the first NFL event. Teams usually hold several get togethers / events this time of year to start teaching everyone the systems. So saying that the RS is the first casualty of the lockout is really a stretch.
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