I agree with you that US sanctions aren't the main problem, but I think you'll agree that sanctions, whether on Venezuela, Iran, Russia, or whomever, are pathetic, and are also sanctions against Americans who want to do buisness in those countries.

I do agree. Citizens will always pay the price for meaningless sanctions and failed foreign policy.

It costs over $24 for a decent Cuban cigar. That's outrageous. They should only cost between $4 and $5 a stick.

I've already explained to you that is not hateful rhetoric. It's reality.

I even provided you with a news clip which verifies that it happens.

You repeat the same lie in the hopes that if you say it enough times, eventually, people will start to believe it.

That's delusional thinking, Dink.

The reality is that socialism fails because it inevitably makes its citizens rely on redistribution by the government.

Every citizen becomes a ward of the State. This is why we libertarians so strongly object to it.

When a powerful central government owns all means of production and distribution, there can't be any competition, profits, losses, or free market.

With socialism, there are no incentives to innovate, to explore, or to be creative.

Laissez-faire capitalism is conducive to innovation, exploration and creativity.

Come on in, Dink - the water's fine!

There are other discussions taking place on this forum that are starting to examine issues above just the window dressing you're always on about.

We've moved on to the more reasonable and coherent libertarians understanding that capitalism contains a blend of socialist policy. We're not interested in wasting our time with the kneejerk exaggeration of it being socialism.

You've got to get there Chief. We're never going to find any common ground until you do.

And if you don't then you're going to be left behind. Right now, all you have to help you survive is my boss's spamming and temper tantrums he throws when he 'goes off' at about 2 p.m. every day.

Just let me know when you're ready to talk about the 'real' capitalism that's being practiced in all modern capitalist countries..

We've moved on to the more reasonable and coherent libertarians understanding that capitalism contains a blend of socialist policy. We're not interested in wasting our time with the kneejerk exaggeration of it being socialism.

You've got to get there Chief.... And if you don't then you're going to be left behind.

You still believe that a central government should redistribute wealth to its citizens.

Libertarians don't believe that a limited government should coerce its citizens to surrender their earnings to them.

"The Libertarian Party is fundamentally opposed to the use of force to coerce people into doing anything. We think it is inherently wrong and should have no role in a civilized society. Thus, we think that government forcing people to pay taxes is inherently wrong."

You still believe that a central government should redistribute wealth to its citizens.

Libertarians don't believe that a limited government should coerce its citizens to surrender their earnings to them.

"The Libertarian Party is fundamentally opposed to the use of force to coerce people into doing anything. We think it is inherently wrong and should have no role in a civilized society. Thus, we think that government forcing people to pay taxes is inherently wrong."