@UltimateMarvel wrote:Wow! The audiences are destroying this movie. Consensus is this is the worst Star Wars movie ever made. LOL! I didn't like Episode 7 so for this to be worse is just crazy to me.

I've heard that some creatures called Porgs are the new Jar-Jar.

Stupid. Star Wars was never about the creatures to me. People said they wasted time on creatures and most of all, BB-8 was overused. Disney likes their toys too fucking much and you know they did this on purpose. Plot was ridiculous and Snoke. I don't want to spoil for you but it's a mess. You know how I avoid spoilers but I didn't care for this movie, I read everything. lol

@UltimateMarvel wrote:Stupid. Star Wars was never about the creatures to me. People said they wasted time on creatures and most of all, BB-8 was overused. Disney likes their toys too fucking much and you know they did this on purpose. Plot was ridiculous and Snoke. I don't want to spoil for you but it's a mess. You know how I avoid spoilers but I didn't care for this movie, I read everything. lol

Disney paid so much for the franchise primarily because of all the merchandising opportunities. They'll make movies solely for toy sales, that's the Disney business model and pimpin ain't easy.

Watched it. MY GOD! Worst movie of the year and the worst Star Wars film ever. Rogue One was more interesting than this. What a waste of Luke and Snoke. Rey magically learning the ways of the Force with no training? Trailer was deceiving as fuck, Luke didn't teach her a damn thing. Lightsaber battles........what battles? That Rey/Kylo fight was ridiculous. The way that Kylo turns on his lightsaber is still hilarious. What a shitty movie, even the prequels are better than this. Now all we have is Kylo as the big bad for Episode 9? Whoever came up with this script, fuck you! LOL Alright, I'm done ranting!

Seriously guys, don't watch this movie. Daisy gave a great performance, I will give her that. Still a likable character but makes no fucking sense in terms of her character's progress.

@UltimateMarvel wrote:Watched it. MY GOD! Worst movie of the year and the worst Star Wars film ever. Rogue One was more interesting than this. What a waste of Luke and Snoke. Rey magically learning the ways of the Force with no training? Trailer was deceiving as fuck, Luke didn't teach her a damn thing. Lightsaber battles........what battles? That Rey/Kylo fight was ridiculous. The way that Kylo turns on his lightsaber is still hilarious. What a shitty movie, even the prequels are better than this. Now all we have is Kylo as the big bad for Episode 9? Whoever came up with this script, fuck you! LOL Alright, I'm done ranting!

Seriously guys, don't watch this movie. Daisy gave a great performance, I will give her that. Still a likable character but makes no fucking sense in terms of her character's progress.

That's cause Luke has always been and will always be an overrated unnecessary cry baby and Rey didn't need him cause she was Leia strong with the force not Luke weak.

@UltimateMarvel wrote:Watched it. MY GOD! Worst movie of the year and the worst Star Wars film ever. Rogue One was more interesting than this. What a waste of Luke and Snoke. Rey magically learning the ways of the Force with no training? Trailer was deceiving as fuck, Luke didn't teach her a damn thing. Lightsaber battles........what battles? That Rey/Kylo fight was ridiculous. The way that Kylo turns on his lightsaber is still hilarious. What a shitty movie, even the prequels are better than this. Now all we have is Kylo as the big bad for Episode 9? Whoever came up with this script, fuck you! LOL Alright, I'm done ranting!

Seriously guys, don't watch this movie. Daisy gave a great performance, I will give her that. Still a likable character but makes no fucking sense in terms of her character's progress.

@UltimateMarvel wrote:Watched it. MY GOD! Worst movie of the year and the worst Star Wars film ever. Rogue One was more interesting than this. What a waste of Luke and Snoke. Rey magically learning the ways of the Force with no training? Trailer was deceiving as fuck, Luke didn't teach her a damn thing. Lightsaber battles........what battles? That Rey/Kylo fight was ridiculous. The way that Kylo turns on his lightsaber is still hilarious. What a shitty movie, even the prequels are better than this. Now all we have is Kylo as the big bad for Episode 9? Whoever came up with this script, fuck you! LOL Alright, I'm done ranting!

Seriously guys, don't watch this movie. Daisy gave a great performance, I will give her that. Still a likable character but makes no fucking sense in terms of her character's progress.

That's cause Luke has always been and will always be an overrated unnecessary cry baby and Rey didn't need him cause she was Leia strong with the force not Luke weak.

Luke Skywalker = Biggest Jedi Disappointment ever.

Mark Hamill voiced his opinion on his character's decisions and he was not happy with it through out the film's promotion and now I COMPLETELY understand why. This was supposed to be Luke's big moment, this WAS IT! The original trilogy, you can forgive them because of their time but they still had good story. This movie had nothing. I can't even give it to Rey because she didn't earn it.

The whole Leia with the Force thing................I don't even know what to say to that. That was a perfect opportunity to conclude the character's story but I don't know what they're gonna do now for the next movie. Unless they cut scenes from this film and saved it for the next one.

I don't understand how you are a SW fan and you like this film Wylde. It's disappointing on almost every level.

@UltimateMarvel wrote:Mark Hamill voiced his opinion on his character's decisions and he was not happy with it through out the film's promotion and now I COMPLETELY understand why. This was supposed to be Luke's big moment, this WAS IT! The original trilogy, you can forgive them because of their time but they still had good story. This movie had nothing. I can't even give it to Rey because she didn't earn it.

The whole Leia with the Force thing................I don't even know what to say to that. That was a perfect opportunity to conclude the character's story but I don't know what they're gonna do now for the next movie. Unless they cut scenes from this film and saved it for the next one.

I don't understand how you are a SW fan and you like this film Wylde. It's disappointing on almost every level.

Luke's big moment was that one time he blew up the Death Star and murdered all those contractors and plumbers who were just providing for their families.

Also, I'm pretty sure he died the world's oldest virgin since the only action he ever got was from his twin.

What exactly are you confused about with Leia and the force if you're a SW fan? Are you shocked that she's a force wielder too cause Yoda wasn't.

The fact that I am a SW fan is why I liked this film and it was much better than Rogue Only Worth One Watch.

They were fighting like how I would fight if I had a lightsaber, that's not interesting at all to me. Excuse me for wanting to see some real Jedi action. It's all more of the CGI Force shit. And if you watched the movie for a good plot or story, you won't find it here.

Also, Snoke used the Force through a HOLOGRAM on General Hux and he can't sense that Kylo is about to kill him when he's right next to him?

Fuck that shit, I couldn't care less about creatures when it comes to Star Wars. Give me some Jedi, I think you know this about me now.

@WyldeMan wrote:Luke's big moment was that one time he blew up the Death Star and murdered all those contractors and plumbers who were just providing for their families.

By destroying planets? Come on now, nobody cares who was on board the Death Star. This is war, people die. For example, as we saw in Rogue One.

@WyldeMan wrote:Also, I'm pretty sure he died the world's oldest virgin since the only action he ever got was from his twin.

Yep. You see what I mean? After seeing him last in Episode 6, you have him all this time abandoning the ways of the Force and living alone on some rock.

@WyldeMan wrote:What exactly are you confused about with Leia and the force if you're a SW fan? Are you shocked that she's a force wielder too cause Yoda wasn't.

She sensed the Force much like most Jedis are able to do and then she pulled one heck of a trick..............IN SPACE!!!! If she could do that this entire time then maybe she should have been the one to teach Luke AND Rey. You really can't explain this stupid writing. lol Yoda not only can use the Force but can use Force Lightning without turning to the Dark Side, he can also manipulate lightning even in ghost form. I think it's safe to say that he's knowledge of the Force is up there.

@WyldeMan wrote:The fact that I am a SW fan is why I liked this film and it was much better than Rogue Only Worth One Watch.

Rogue One is a pointless movie with no replayability and I didn't like it at all but saying it's better than this movie says a lot about this movie, I was just trying to put it in perspective.

@UltimateMarvel wrote:Also, Snoke used the Force through a HOLOGRAM on General Hux and he can't sense that Kylo is about to kill him when he's right next to him?

Nobody ever sensed that Palpatine was the evil Emperor until he revealed himself, not a single Jedi Master, not even Anakin the Jesus of the Force. It's easy to be blinded by one's ego and not see what the Force is revealing.

@UltimateMarvel wrote:Yep. You see what I mean? After seeing him last in Episode 6, you have him all this time abandoning the ways of the Force and living alone on some rock.

Luke is a manic depressive who was always super sad cause he was a massive failure in life and in love. He failed every Jedi he ever came in contact with and Han Solo stole the only woman he ever had a shot with.

@UltimateMarvel wrote:She sensed the Force much like most Jedis are able to do and then she pulled one heck of a trick..............IN SPACE!!!! If she could do that this entire time then maybe she should have been the one to teach Luke AND Rey. You really can't explain this stupid writing. lol Yoda not only can use the Force but can use Force Lightning without turning to the Dark Side, he can also manipulate lightning even in ghost form. I think it's safe to say that he's knowledge of the Force is up there.

Leia was always capable of force wielding but Luke got the focus of the franchise because women were not allowed to lead films back then. Yoda always wanted to teach Leia since he could sense her power and was super bummed when the weaker Luke showed up which is why Yoda acted like a dick to him.

@joey con carne wrote:Did Leia do some cool shit with the Force in this one? I'm reading your comments but I can't figure out what you guys mean. I don't mind spoilers. Be cool and tell me, please!

Her ship was blown up and she was kicked into the vacuum of space and started to frost over then she Jedi mind forced her body back into safety before falling into a coma. Abe's just mad cause all Luke did was move in some some hobbits and not do anything worth mentioning.

@WyldeMan wrote:Nobody ever sensed that Palpatine was the evil Emperor until he revealed himself, not a single Jedi Master, not even Anakin the Jesus of the Force. It's easy to be blinded by one's ego and not see what the Force is revealing.

Anakin is strong when it comes to the use of the Force but when it comes to sensing shit, Yoda and Mace were the top tier. Yeah, he bested them both and hid in plain sight but this was covered in Episode 3. Palpatine was a powerful Sith and clouded himself so that nobody would suspect it was the Chancellor all along.

Snoke kept saying he could see into Kylo's mind, he should have been able to see what he was up to. They killed him this way because Rey and Kylo were both weak and wouldn't have been able to take on Snoke. By the way, the whole connection thing with Rey and Kylo was all because of Snoke. And then later on as Rey was leaving on the ship, they were able to connect again but this time without Snoke............talk about inconsistency.

Luke being the one to take out Snoke, that is something I would have liked to see. Both displayed powerful use of the Force and seeing them battle would have been epic and deserving of their strength.

@WyldeMan wrote:Luke is a manic depressive who was always super sad cause he was a massive failure in life and in love. He failed every Jedi he ever came in contact with and Han Solo stole the only woman he ever had a shot with.

Luke may not be perfect but he was painted as a great Jedi until this movie, it undid all that and destroyed everything everyone loved about Luke.

@WyldeMan wrote:Leia was always capable of force wielding but Luke got the focus of the franchise because women were not allowed to lead films back then. Yoda always wanted to teach Leia since he could sense her power and was super bummed when the weaker Luke showed up which is why Yoda acted like a dick to him.

Leia capable of Force wielding? In which movie was that shown other than this one? If you're talking about comics or animated shows, I don't watch those.

@joey con carne wrote:Did Leia do some cool shit with the Force in this one? I'm reading your comments but I can't figure out what you guys mean. I don't mind spoilers. Be cool and tell me, please!

Her ship was blown up and she was kicked into the vacuum of space and started to frost over then she Jedi mind forced her body back into safety before falling into a coma. Abe's just mad cause all Luke did was move in some some hobbits and not do anything worth mentioning.

@WyldeMan wrote:I'm not the only one who sees it, this is a pretty good video made just a few months back which does a great job summarizing what a little bitch Luke the moisture farmer always was.

Moisture farmer. lol All fair points. Some of this stuff is taken from the comics and the shows. But it's just "what ifs" and not "what is." I would have loved to see what Leia would have been like if she was properly trained and Luke took Leia's role.