Drakxxx

Your very good at drawing sir. After taking a look at your design here, I took a peek at your blog site you have linked, I'm thoroughly convinced.

I'm an illustrator first when it comes to this stuff as well. My best suggestion is to keep doing what you do and make the abilities you already have as an illustrator work for you in this medium, not the other way around.

cleverconveyence

elwayman02 wrote:I disagree. Voting to spite is much worse than voting on name alone, because voting out of spite is a malicious attempt to sabotage an artist's chances at printing merely because you don't like them, whereas voting on name alone is merely supporting someone who you believe is talented or perhaps have a personal connection with. In general, though, I think most people at least look at the entries they are voting on before they vote. For example, I consider myself to be a friend of sekiyoku's outside of Woot (I knew her from elsewhere before she started entering derbies), but I don't always vote for her designs, especially if I see designs I like better that she is in competition with. However, if I am generally ok with all of the designs she is competing with, I'm more likely to vote for her design than someone else's, because I like to support my friends. This applies to other artists as well, not just sekiyoku. I've worked with sailormoontsu, fablefire, and drakxxx on varying numbers of collaborations in the past, so I tend to support their entries under the same system. I omgwin! to see how that is a bad thing.

Well, it's not like this is going to pull into the fog or anything. It'll be lucky to get 19th place. But it's expressing a position, and a fact that it's not a fringe opinion.

Number of shirt.woots in 08: 23 (not counting randoms and shirts bought for friends)
number of shirt.woots in 09: 2 (same criteria)

mitchellp

kaseyfleming wrote:no doubt. by far one of my favorite artist on woot. its a shame his designs fall short in the derby week after week. i have discovered myself its almost pointless to compete with the woot "stars"

jamescho84

elwayman02 wrote:I disagree. Voting to spite is much worse than voting on name alone, because voting out of spite is a malicious attempt to sabotage an artist's chances at printing merely because you don't like them, whereas voting on name alone is merely supporting someone who you believe is talented or perhaps have a personal connection with. In general, though, I think most people at least look at the entries they are voting on before they vote. For example, I consider myself to be a friend of sekiyoku's outside of Woot (I knew her from elsewhere before she started entering derbies), but I don't always vote for her designs, especially if I see designs I like better that she is in competition with. However, if I am generally ok with all of the designs she is competing with, I'm more likely to vote for her design than someone else's, because I like to support my friends. This applies to other artists as well, not just sekiyoku. I've worked with sailormoontsu, fablefire, and drakxxx on varying numbers of collaborations in the past, so I tend to support their entries under the same system. I omgwin! to see how that is a bad thing.

A good friend you are.
I threaten my friends lives if they don't vote for me. Thursday is judgment day, there's usually a couple of asses kicked by the end of the day.

jamescho84

eHalcyon wrote:I think it's appropriate and justified to complain about ramy and seki's designs for their off-topic-ness, persistent similarity, etc. but it is ridiculous to bash them just because they are successful. Sure, they have arguably had more success than Cho did (note: jimiyo has always been too good for Woot and has never really been successful here), but just barely. To complain about their success and not Cho's is hypocritical. Maybe people are forgetting just how successful he was because he's been gone for so long. He's very nearly swept derbies before, with multiple entries in the fog and in the top ten. Someone even left a comment in his flying penguin's thread that implies the person voted on name only. Sure, they have fans here that vote for them. So does every other regular artist here - Edgar, Loopy, tgentry, Boots, drakxxx, skirochester - they all have established fan bases. It's just ridiculous to complain that people who like their work are voting for their entries. That's the whole point of the derby.

Thanks for clearing that up, I'm sure that has been prominently displayed to me many times on Woot, hopefully I'll remember now. On another note, is there any particular reason Woot does not have a "click on user's name and see their previous entries" function? I've been wishing I could do that for some time.

blahmcblah

HeartlineTwist wrote:Trust me, Storm, I want this to be rejected just as much as you do, but I also realize that the shirt.woot staff probably isn't around at all times. Should it have been rejected by now? In an ideal world, yes.

I can't even tell you how many times I've tattled on this entry and a number of others this Derby to no avail. I think woot staff isn't just not around at all times, I don't think they're *ever* around. Maybe Joel was the only one who could read tattles, and with him gone, Barbara is totally clueless. That could explain the bizarre "wrong color" rejections and the total lack of off topic rejections.

I've tattled on this shirt repeatedly for being off topic, and also for being too similar to a shirt that woot already printed (Against the Sky). No luck, obviously.

Mroczkowski

itoaseik wrote:Thanks for clearing that up, I'm sure that has been prominently displayed to me many times on Woot, hopefully I'll remember now. On another note, is there any particular reason Woot does not have a "click on user's name and see their previous entries" function? I've been wishing I could do that for some time.

itoaseik

I didn't realize the detail that went into the elephant the first time I saw it on brown... really amazing, very realistic style. However, I think the swirly design in the background takes away from this somewhat... I wish I had something more helpful to say as to how to turn the awesome elephant into an awesome shirt. Anyway, keep up with the drawings like this.

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