"Maybe that's okay that there are some things that we can't accept," said Smith. "Maybe they're just unacceptable, right?"

"Yeah."

"Did your dad get to enjoy any of your success?"

"No," said Myers. "None of it. Not a little bit of it, no."

Myers thought he'd bounce back, but it didn't happen. "I was not in a very good place. What was surprising to me was how it kept being rough. I've since come to peace with the fact that it will always be rough, which is just what it is."

He needed to hide out for a while, and it happened that Shep Gordon had just the place: a home on the island of Maui.

"He said, 'Yes, come over, any time.' I said, 'What about tomorrow?' And he was like, 'Okay, great. How long you want to stay for?' I said a week. And I ended up staying for two months at his house. I exercised, and I ate good food that Shep had cooked for me himself."

"So do you think in a way he filled a void that was left by your dad?" asked Smith.

"I think that's a good theory. I think it might be true."

Most people would just say "thank you." Mike Myers was so taken with Shep that he made him the subject of a movie.