[Mr. Jordan:]
Thank you Mr. Chairmen. Ms. Burriesci earlier this week the chairman of the homeland security committee gave an important speech where he talked about extremist groups, terrorist groups, trying to exploit the refugee program, so, like Mr. Russell just a few minutes ago, I would like to see if you could give me some numbers just – just so the committee and the American people have this information. How many Syrian refugees have entered the United States in the last year?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
Sir, I didn’t bring any of my, uh… any of the refugee numbers with me because I was prepared to talk about visa waivers but I can certainly have um… us send that to you.

[Mr. Jordan:]
Do you know how many Americans have travelled to Syria in the last year?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
I don’t have that number on me either.

[Mr. Jordan:]
So you wouldn’t know how many Americans have travelled and then returned?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
I don’t have that number on me.

[Mr. Jordan:]
Um… how many visa waiver program overstays are there currently in the United States?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
Sir, I didn’t bring that number with me.

[Mr. Jordan:]
Ms. Burriesci, when I look at the witness list, you’ve got the longest title, Deputy Assistant Secretary Of Screening Coordination Office Of Policy Department Of Homeland Security, you’ve got the longest title, and it says ‘screening coordination,’ and what is that – what are you – what are you – what screening are you coordinating? Is that just intra-agency? Or is that inter-agency?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
It’s both.

[Mr. Jordan:]Source: LYBIO.net
It’s both. So it’s all of that?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
Yes, I coordinate across DHS components as well as develop policy…

[Mr. Jordan:]
And the two biggest issues right now that – that we are dealing with relative to with these terrible tragedies, terrible terrorist attacks and we’re talking about the refugee issue and the visa waiver program issues and you can’t give us any numbers on either program?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
Sir I came prepared to talk about the visa waiver program.

[Mr. Jordan:]
And I just asked you how many visa waiver program overstays are there and you said ‘I don’t know.’

[Ms. Burriesci:]
Sir, I don’t have a number. The visa waiver program…

[Mr. Jordan:]
So when I asked you how many overstays of the visa waiver program may have travelled to Syria before they got here…do you know that number?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
[…] Sir, if visa waiver program national has – has a citizen of a visa waiver program country rather, has travelled to Syria, Iraq or a conflict zone, and they are considered a foreign fighter, that VWP country as a result shares that information to us…

[Mr. Jordan:]
I’m not asking that, I’m saying someone from Great Britain comes to the United States, on a visa waiver program, and they are now an over stay, do we know if that person who is here today, maybe they are not even an overstay, do we know if that person has been to Syria before they came to the United States? Do we know that? I mean, I know this is what our bill that we passed earlier this week is trying to get to, I’m asking if you know that information now?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
[…] So that’s why we have the IC involved and there is intelligence assessments we use…[interrupted]

[Mr. Jordan:]
I’m not asking that, I’m asking do we know that, do you know the number?

[Mr. Jordan:]
Do we have people, who are in that category that I just described; come from a visa waiver program country may have travelled, may be here today and may have been in Syria or Iraq or somewhere there in the last, before they came here, do we know that?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
If a person from a VWP country has travelled to one of those areas, there’s a nexus to the United States, or the the VWP partner shares that information with us, yes, we know that information and we will vet against it. We will also use our algorithms to do their background for travel.

[Mr. Jordan:]
But could they be here right now – but could they be here right now, is my question.

[Ms. Burriesci:]
I don’t have that answer, sir.

[Mr. Jordan:]
Um… alright, well. How about… can you tell me… can you tell me anything about the no fly list? If you can’t tell me anything about those two, how does a person get put on the criteria for that, tell me – can you tell me anything about that?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
Sir, the no fly list is a subset of the overall terrorist screening database. Um… the inner agency works together, the terror screening database is owned and operated by the terror screening center as I said earlier, there are criteria to get on that that are agreed to…

[Mr. Jordan:]
How many American’s are on that list right now, can you give me that number?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
I’m sorry. Sir.

[Mr. Jordan:]
How many American citizens are on the no fly list right now?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
I know there are American citizens on the list, it is an extremely small number but I don’t have my numbers with me but again that’s something I can easily get back to you after.

[Mr. Jordan:]
Ms., Ms. Burriesci, I’ve asked you the number of Americans that have travelled to Syria, you don’t know. The number of Americans who might have travelled and return, you don’t know. The number of Syrian refugees who have entered the country in the last year, you don’t know. The number of visa waiver program overstays, you don’t know. The number of visa waiver overstays who may have been to Syria before they came here, you don’t know. And the number of American citizens on the no fly list and you don’t know. And yet you are the Deputy Assistant Secretary For Screening Coordination Office Of Policy, Department Of Homeland Security in front of the Oversight Committee and you can’t give us one, single number to some, I think, pretty basic questions?

[Ms. Burriesci:]
Some of those statistics are not held by the DHS, that is why I want to work with my interagency partners…

[Mr. Jordan:]
That’s why I referenced your title, you are the one who is the screening coordinator for all of this, and you said you were intra agency, that’s why I referenced your title. It seems to me you should be able to be in front of this committee with that information.

[Ms. Burriesci:]
I’m a DHS employee. I’m a DHS civil servant employee and I will work with my inner agency partners but their authoritative source for a lot of those numbers you mentioned…

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If you could get us those numbers, and the ones Mr. Russell asked for that would be great. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Top DHS Screening Official Ms Burriesci Unable To Provide Stats On Refugees