indarwinsshadow:Yep, I'd pay to watch it. And the sad part. It looks like the world really is going in that direction. A small few get the cream, the rest of us put up with sh*t.

...never fails to surprise me how much of history was created by marginalization and pent up class frustration.

While this does suck, I don't see where this is different than any other period in time and we've made it perfectly fine. History has proven over and over and over that this happens, some dudes whom normally would be considered colossal dicks get angry, rebel against the establishment, bring is down two steps, and we slowly move a few steps more forward. Those colossal dicks become heroes, they aren't politicians so the utopia last a few years, than a 1% starts to happen in that initial 99%....

Wash, Rinse, Repeat.

Mind you this movie looks like its great, but I wouldn't mind good old Bladerunneresque sci fi were it's something that we consider the enemy teaches us how to be more human. Yes that's cliche also, but it's been a few good years since a blockbuster sci-fi like that.

I seriously considered leaving the theater. Two thumbs down for me. I realize they're talking about race relations in South Africa and using the aliens to abstract it a bit, but there were just too many plot holes in it for me. Namely "Hey look at these aliens with their fancy (but broken) interstellar ship and amazing weapons. Lets toss them in the ghetto and mistreat the shiat out of them, that way if their buddies ever show up with a working ship, they'll be pissed off and carpet bomb the fark out of us." I could never get passed how illogical that ways or how the G8 powers would have grabbed the ship the minute it arrived and really reach a point where I could appreciate the social commentary about the treatment of the prawns.

ha-ha-guy:The All-Powerful Atheismo: Am I going to get my e-peen chopped off if I say that I didn't think District 9 was all that great

I seriously considered leaving the theater. Two thumbs down for me. I realize they're talking about race relations in South Africa and using the aliens to abstract it a bit, but there were just too many plot holes in it for me. Namely "Hey look at these aliens with their fancy (but broken) interstellar ship and amazing weapons. Lets toss them in the ghetto and mistreat the shiat out of them, that way if their buddies ever show up with a working ship, they'll be pissed off and carpet bomb the fark out of us." I could never get passed how illogical that ways or how the G8 powers would have grabbed the ship the minute it arrived and really reach a point where I could appreciate the social commentary about the treatment of the prawns.

I think that may be a main difference in how people viewed the film.

I'm a scifi fan, but I didn't watch District 9 as a scifi movie. I watched it more as an allegory with a scifi veneer.

ha-ha-guy:Namely "Hey look at these aliens with their fancy (but broken) interstellar ship and amazing weapons. Lets toss them in the ghetto and mistreat the shiat out of them, that way if their buddies ever show up with a working ship, they'll be pissed off and carpet bomb the fark out of us."

Seems pretty reasonable to me if you've studied human history. Magellan, Ponce De Leon, James Cook and Giovanni da Verrazzano didn't die of old age.

I saw a preview of this about 9 months ago. It was pretty much done except for the special effects. It needed a LOT of fixing. There are plot holes you can drive a truck through and a lot of stuff that just didn't make sense. Most of the reactions from the others in the theater were pretty meh as well. Jodie Foster's French accent is so horribly bad that you'll laugh your ass off every time she opens her mouth. Don't get your hopes up, folks.

thornhill:In the future really rich people live off-world and earth is a slum? How original!

Andy yet another movie where some black market gun dealer happens to have a super high tech weapon sitting behind the counter, ready to be sold to the guy wanting to start a revolution. What would people do without these arm dealers?

Quantum Apostrophe:Oh great, another Space Nutter "this mud ball is doomed" wankfest. As if the "technology" to build this floating paradise can't be used right here first.../This is your religion, folks, like it or not

Wait, movies aren't always realistic? So New York City won't be saved by a rich vigilante who dresses up as a bat?

llortcM_yllort:Quantum Apostrophe: Oh great, another Space Nutter "this mud ball is doomed" wankfest. As if the "technology" to build this floating paradise can't be used right here first.../This is your religion, folks, like it or not

Wait, movies aren't always realistic? So New York City won't be saved by a rich vigilante who dresses up as a bat?

I know that, but some people gobble up the shiny imagery and think it's the same as engineering.

thisone:Niveras: I'm not seeing the Dune. I'm only familiar with the first three books, but then most everyone just ignores the rest anyway (if they don't focus only on the first to begin with).

I don't see a messiah-emperor, a man trying to prevent a terrible future (or causing that future in order to prevent something even worse), an addictive mystical life-prolonging drug, a secretive society attempting to breed a god, a low-tech yet galaxy-spanning empire, or a theme that high technology is evil. The Earth-bounded poor may parallel the Fremen but only superficially. Dune doesn't even carry a theme of oppression by the oligarchy (except possibly the Harkonnen), despite the feudal political system: the Corrino Empire wasn't particularly oppressive, at least in any way that's described in the books, and really the Atreides Empire was worse in that regard. Even Duke Leto specifically encourages certain propaganda in order to control his population - obviously it can be assumed that all the ruling houses do this, but if even an ostensibly virtuous figure like the Duke would rely on manipulation to serve his ends, well...

So what am I missing that references Dune? Perhaps something that I don't really consider important to the Dune story, but more likely something really basic that makes me really stupid not to see it.

So, I'm in the minority then that my favourite books in the Dune series are set in the far future, after God Emperor?

The best dune book (IMO) is heretics and since the only other after godemperor is chapterhouse I can't really get on you for using books. If by chance you are referring to book 7, it doesn't exist in any form or fashion.

Anyhow, I don't see the connection to any Dune book in the trailer. Add some Greeks, Shakespeare and eminent Jew death and it can be a prequel to the Dan Simmons illium/ Olympus books.

Quantum Apostrophe:Scarlioni: All you younglings saying the inspiration is HALO... what about Ring World by Larry Niven?

I see more of a Neuromancer vibe there, with the Tessier Ashpool spindle and the Sprawl.

Hollywood would totally screw up Neuromancer, but I trust this guy to at least make it LOOK like it should look. In an interview, it sounds like he's not all that interested in doing franchises or adaptations (in reference to the botched Halo movie), but he didn't outright say no (he probably likes money, natch). Great Gatsby is my favorite book of all time, and I KNOW the movie is going to be farking AWFUL and I'll hate it. But I'm going to see it just the same, so I would probably do the same w/ a Neuromancer movie, especially if Neil did it.

sure haven't:Genju: Sure it'll be a great movie, but what a sucky trailer.

/lost count after like 25 fades to black

That's been the movie trailer style for about... 12 years now?

Wait till you hear about smartphones.

It's a lazy cliche transition and it needs to die. Same with that stupid music stop (sometimes lead in with a record scratch) to let the audience know they should laugh at the next retarded joke/situation.

SVenus:MyKingdomForYourHorse: Based on previous work and who has writing credits for this, a lot of people are going to walk out of that theater with a meh while us film aficionados are going to give it a stand ovation.

Which depresses me to the nth degree on how far the standards of the general viewing public have fallen.

Some stories don't need a $12 movie ticket price tag.Would "Oblivion" work without Tom Cruise?Would "John Carter" have worked WITH Tom Cruise?Some stories need help attracting people to the story without giving away the story.

I received the first Game Of Thrones book in hardcover before it was published. Read 150 pages. Put it down, never picked it back up.Liked the story, hated the author's style. That's just me.(later sold collectible book for $300 on Ebay)

Even if it's a good story, not every one wins the day. If you follow an author, not every story they write has the same quality as the one that won them fame.

Hah. I made it to about 100 pages.

After the incredible amount of peer pressure I got about reading that, I found it incredibly uninteresting.

BafflerMeal:SVenus: MyKingdomForYourHorse: Based on previous work and who has writing credits for this, a lot of people are going to walk out of that theater with a meh while us film aficionados are going to give it a stand ovation.

Which depresses me to the nth degree on how far the standards of the general viewing public have fallen.

Some stories don't need a $12 movie ticket price tag.Would "Oblivion" work without Tom Cruise?Would "John Carter" have worked WITH Tom Cruise?Some stories need help attracting people to the story without giving away the story.

I received the first Game Of Thrones book in hardcover before it was published. Read 150 pages. Put it down, never picked it back up.Liked the story, hated the author's style. That's just me.(later sold collectible book for $300 on Ebay)

Even if it's a good story, not every one wins the day. If you follow an author, not every story they write has the same quality as the one that won them fame.

Hah. I made it to about 100 pages.

After the incredible amount of peer pressure I got about reading that, I found it incredibly uninteresting.

That's a shame. The first major portion of book 1 is setting the characters, allegiances, cultures, etc. Too often these days people seem to get impatient. When the GoT show started on HBO I had to warn some friends "The first 3 episodes will seem slow to you, because of all the introduction." I immediately felt sad.

Maybe some people don't like the way the story is told, bouncing around between points of view. I actually find it a bit entertaining because it can be used as a transition device between major scenes, cliffhangers not just at the end of the entire story but individual chapters, and looking forward to the next time the spotlight returns to that arc.

I'll lay this out now. I actually watch the show before reading the book. Parts of the show really interested me (LikeDaenerys' storyline) but utterly bored me in the book (until halfway through book 2). As customary to books with boatloads of characters being adapted to screen, some character roles were condensed to remove a character or group of characters completely from the show. But it was rather confusing when a character didn't show up in the show, I figured "oh well they probably just wrote that character off." What a surprise to me when they were introduced much later!

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom:Love D9, but the "in the future, the 1% live in perfect health and luxury while the 99% starve in ruins" trope is so played out. Visually this looks amazing but the premise (based on what's revealed in the trailer) is overdone.

Came to say this.This theme and the 'One man destroys heavily armed fortress single-handedly to make the World 'right' again' has been done to death.

And 'District 9' had plot holes the size of 'The Matrix' starting with the people in power letting a farking idiot be in charge of an important mission.

douchebag/hater:Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Love D9, but the "in the future, the 1% live in perfect health and luxury while the 99% starve in ruins" trope is so played out. Visually this looks amazing but the premise (based on what's revealed in the trailer) is overdone.

Came to say this.This theme and the 'One man destroys heavily armed fortress single-handedly to make the World 'right' again' has been done to death.

And 'District 9' had plot holes the size of 'The Matrix' starting with the people in power letting a farking idiot be in charge of an important mission.

I think it's more of a plot hole when a competent person is picked to do a job.

thisone:douchebag/hater: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Love D9, but the "in the future, the 1% live in perfect health and luxury while the 99% starve in ruins" trope is so played out. Visually this looks amazing but the premise (based on what's revealed in the trailer) is overdone.

Came to say this.This theme and the 'One man destroys heavily armed fortress single-handedly to make the World 'right' again' has been done to death.

And 'District 9' had plot holes the size of 'The Matrix' starting with the people in power letting a farking idiot be in charge of an important mission.

I think it's more of a plot hole when a competent person is picked to do a job.

i loves me some scifi movie, and while the film looks great, theres nothing from the trailer that makes the story seem interesting. my faith is relying on the strength of the directors one previous movie.

District 9 was a fantastic film. It was the first sci-fi film I had seen in a long while that didn't pull the punches and actually went for the R rating. The story was good and the actor who played Vickus was excellent. The character was well developed, and he didn't suffer from the Hollywood character change where he learns to do the right thing. He's a dink, who gets farked over, and behaves selfishly to the end practically farking himself over. There were some creepy and depressing scenes balanced with hilarious scenes just skirting the border of camp (tabloid creature farking accusations, cat food cravings), the pacing was good, and it didn't overdo the CG.

For that being his first feature film I think he has a really bright future in film-making (for us viewers, not just his pocketbook). I just hope he keeps his head on his shoulders and doesn't go all Peter Jackson by not being able to edit his movies down to reasonable lengths and dragging out every CG action sequence. He reminds me of the old James Cameron and the sci-fi genre desperately needs someone like that because these old guys like Cameron and Ridley Scott are more than losing their touch. Prometheus had so much potential, and while I didn't hate it overall, I hated a lot of things about, particularly toward the end.