The same was said about Afghanistan - its not controllable, look what happened to the soviets etc etc.

The casualties have mostly been afghan, the US mostly got away with it.

Then the people said the same about Iraq - now here is a proper army, properly trained and been waiting for an invasion for 20 years with proper weapons etc. Walk in the park and the casualties have been overwhelmingly Iraqi.

Now people are saying the same about Iran. If there are major casualties and suffering, you can bet your boots it wont be by Americans.

No it isn't. I'd love to see where you sourced that information from. I'll bet you won't want to reveal it.

You quoted

moron wrote:
a paramount goal of Islamist revolutionaries for almost half a century has been the destruction of the regimes of such leaders as Presidents Gamal Abdel Nasser, Anwar el-Sadat and Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, President Hafez al-Assad of Syria, the military government in Algeria and even the Saudi royal family.

yet on the previous page you said

moron wrote:
You should understand the disposition. Saudi is the main forpost of Al-Qaeda and the main money source for muslim terrorism in the world, big US friend

Can you please compare your sources and decide which of them you believe and stick with it, rather than randomly c/p someone else's opinion and claiming it for your own.

moron wrote:
To contemporary jihadists,

Which ones? Or did you c/p from the first AQ reference you found?

moron wrote:
Who do you think all of those "rebels" fighting against Gadaffi and Syria goverments? Al-Qaeda mercs, trained by SAS, getting weapon from Saudi Arabia

LOL. "Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire the Al Qaeda-Team"

I AIN'T GETTING ON NO PLANE, INFIDEL!
I LOVE IT WHEN A BOMB COMES TOGETHER. /lights cigar

xuiton wrote:
iran might not be as free as teh west, but they are not ran my mad men either. everything they do is rational in terms of what states do.

really? I don't call stoning and murdering people because they are gay, rational. Also Iran in the past and made threats to destroy Israel, its not one sided as you make out. They all need their weapons taken away and heads bashed together until they can behave like people and not cunts

moron wrote:
Goverment has nothing to do with it, that's how people think. If you think Iran is populated by fellow americans-like citisens hangry for democracy and it is evil goverment to blame, this is not what reality is.

No, you've been misinformed.They don't stone or kill gays.It's just that homosexuality is not acceptable to the people (and not the gov) of Iran , and so homos should keep a low profile in the society.

But Iran has never been the ultimate utopia for faggots.That much is true.

However there's a famous(infamous) park in Tehran, a nest for fags.When I was there a couple of years back, a night, 11 pm,those fags wanted to ....... me ! I managed to escape to the subway though.

xuiton wrote:
iran might not be as free as teh west, but they are not ran my mad men either. everything they do is rational in terms of what states do.

really? I don't call stoning and murdering people because they are gay, rational. Also Iran in the past and made threats to destroy Israel, its not one sided as you make out. They all need their weapons taken away and heads bashed together until they can behave like people and not cunts

I never said their domestic laws are good, rational or ethical.

I said what iran does as a state actor, how it conducts foreign policy and how it acts on the world stage, It acts in a rational manner.

you do realise iran elects it is government. how free these elections are are debatable, they still elect them. That is the law of the land, it might be shit compared to our standards but it is their law. I think it is backwards but that has nothing to do with their right to security and not be bullied by israel and america.