why is it that sabre1's have been known to crack the shit out of you? what are the specific characteristics of this canopy that can cause painful, if not injurous openings?

ive got one now that i bought for wingsuiting. now besides the ovbious, flaking and folding properly, and making SURE that the slider is quartered and all the way at the top of the lines and packed deep inside the packjob, do you recommend rolling the nose?

and if you do roll the nose in what manner? (outer 4 cells on each side of the center cell, then bury the center cell)>>>??

I've got a normal slider on my Sabre1. I read somewhere that the problem openings are actually on the larger Sabres and also before a specific date (related to the brake attachment style/position).

I roll the nose/pack as described in the Sabre 1 owners manual. It works well enough that sometimes it snivels for ages. I was getting off heading openings but I think that was down to packing practise as they appear to have stopped.

I have a sabre 150 and it open and fly great, I know it can slam me sometime, but I don't take any care on the packing, sometimes look a trash pack, still open fast but not like a bomb. a friend jumps a 135 and he is always been hammered by the canopy... I think some are blessed with a good sabre....

I have about 400 jumps on a Sabre1 170 and 50 on a Sabre1 150. Never been spanked, don't do anything to the nose, no pocket slider. My husband has several hundred jumps on the 170 as well with the same results. I just don't get the Sabre1 phobia. I have one in my backup rig, and routinely use it for video and AFF, openings are nice, consistent, never hard.

Any canopy can bite you. I landed in the ER after a hard open on a Spectre. My own fault it opened like that, due to body position.

I agree that body position and folding play important role. But I just cannot believe that those two (particular) canopies I used can ever open softly without significant modifications. Hard (ening f. up ;) from time to time is okay but hard openings as default mode of a canopy is simply not acceptable for me.

all i could see is the guy complaining about a neck pain... but some people say that your balls can nearly hit your toes...... If I have a hard opening will be posted here, but after all my crazy packing jobs, I don't think will have....

I put about 800 jumps on my Sabre1 150. It was in brand new condition when I got it. I rolled the nose and did all the tricks when I got it and 4 out of 5 openings were brisk and the other 1 out of 5 was a slammer. I had my rigger put a pocket on the slider and I had fantastic opening everytime after that (didn't have to roll the nose or anything, packed like normal).

I occasional got hard openings with my Sabre1. I found that just checking the slider and pushing the nose into the canopy a bit solved the problem. Not one hard (define hard as Slammer!) opening in the last couple years. In fact, most openings are “firm”, quick, and on heading. Also, I can easily steer the opening using body English. I use my Sabre for camera jumps, so, I am concerned about how my parachute opens.