mav, you're not overjoyed about the adrv idea are you? you don't feel as if the points brought up, as the reasons for using it, are strong points?

If the adrive idea were to be 'scratched'. How would we get this distro to appeal to Arch Linux users, who might not want some of those uninstallable default applications? they could mksquashfs themselves another sfs file, to get the apps out, but.........they've never heard of that before. that's a Puppy Linux thing, and...a lot of puppy linux users have never even heard of it before either.

mav, you're not overjoyed about the adrv idea are you? you don't feel as if the points brought up, as the reasons for using it, are strong points?.

Actually, you are totally wrong
I love the adrv idea. What I do not like is to have an ISO distribution that is not really usable without installing any packages.
That's why I opposed adrv with just a desktop/WM.
That's why I developed ydrv so the archapps sfs can be auto-loaded and included in the ISO.

Now about those hard core Arch users... Are you seriously targeting these guys with Archpup?... _________________Kids all over the world go around with an XO laptop. They deserve one puppy (or many) too Last edited by mavrothal on Sat 12 Jan 2013, 15:21; edited 2 times in total

Now about those hard core Arch users... Are you seriously targeting these guys with Archpup?...

Absolutely so, and here's the reasons why:
A portable Linux on a USB Drive is very useful.
Archpup puts Arch Linux on a USB stick and runs in ram.
Archpup is faster, and smaller than Arch Linux and better suited for a 2gb, or another USB drive.
I can have that USB Drive formatted to ntfs, and not ext2 or ext3. To look at pictures, and listen to mp3s on my buddies Windows computer, and listen to those mp3s on his Windows System using Windows Media Player....and have my portable Arch Linux on it also.
After seeing how many gaps it's filled from the USB standpoint...no reason to not have my desktop and laptop on the same page. So instead of having Puppy Linux on my USB Drive (Puppy is light years better than Arch in this area), and Arch Linux on my Desktop (Arch might be preferred by many in this area, because it doesn't come with an uninstallable PMusic app or a brain-wrecking hard to compile and install XBMC)...I can use Archpup for both.

So when they see...."Arch Linux on USB...no reformating, no PMusic, no PBurn, and no dog icons all throughout the system". It has a huge chance, much better than before...to attract their attention.

Based on that comment though....this is probably an audience we'd be better off just ignoring, right?

If there's a better solution it a be nice to hear, but presently it's sounding like the solution is to "just ignore them".

Is directory /lib/firmware/b43 present on your archpup? I copied it from Slacko531 for my device (though, it may be included in the latest archpup).

Can you report the chipset of your device? You can use hardinfo to get this information (or at least the name of the product), click on the USB/PCI/other option depending on the device type._________________helping Wiki for help | IF SendSpace link = "dead" THEN PM me ("up file to http://meownplanet.net/")

yes, but b43 is a folder (if that is what you want to know). I know almost nothing about it. All I know is that it is a Broadcom device. Neither lina-lite 005 or ArchPup 12.12.2 has hardinfo (and that are all the puppies I have).

EDIT: Chipset is BCM4313_________________The DeLorean is the best car, Period!

yes, but b43 is a folder (if that is what you want to know). I know almost nothing about it. All I know is that it is a Broadcom device. Neither lina-lite 005 or ArchPup 12.12.2 has hardinfo (and that are all the puppies I have).

EDIT: Chipset is BCM4313

this should be a step in the right direction towards getting it compiled and working:

Based on that comment though....this is probably an audience we'd be better off just ignoring, right?

If there's a better solution it a be nice to hear, but presently it's sounding like the solution is to "just ignore them".

I said it from the beginning, is your baby.
And if you want to offer a no-apps ISO so Arch users will customize their sticks, while the rest will just pass (without even a GUI package manager), is your choice.
I just never figured out why the picky Arch users can not just skip the apps SFSs if included?... But that's probably because I'm not an Arch user._________________Kids all over the world go around with an XO laptop. They deserve one puppy (or many) too

C) you can see your network devices using command
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