After the game was reported to police, who did nothing and said evidence for prosecution was “lacking,” Nintendo and the Scandinavian regional distributor promptly cancelled the game’s Nordic release anyway, for not only Sweden, but also Denmark and Norway.

The initial reporting of the game to police is understood to be the work of a Swede who wanted to prove a point – that ever vaguer laws against fictional depictions of underage sexuality are rapidly encroaching upon freedom of expression, as evidenced by the recent arrest of a Swedish manga translator for possessing “child pornography” in the form of young-looking drawn girls.

The protest certainly seems to have demonstrated just that – publishers have been scared into cancelling a game for an entire region, on the basis of a single complaint to police.

Nintendo and its regional distributor refuse to offer any clarification of just why the game was pulled:

“Nintendo of Europe have decided not to release the game in Sweden, for various reasons. However, they do not want to list any details regarding their decision.”

Whether reporting the rest of their games to feature scantily clad 16-year-olds (a fairly high proportion of games developed in Japan) will scare them into pulling those as well is an interesting question.

These characters are Elliot(16), Kokoro(17), Kasumi(17), Ayane(16), and , though technically ageless, Alpha-152 is probably the biggest offender since it’s basically a green nude model of Kasumi. But looking at these fighters, excluding Alpha-152, the only one I could unironically call a kid is Elliot. Regardless, Sweden doesn’t know what child porn is.

Doesn’t this just show that nintendo just lacks balls? The one guy did it to prove a point, the police did nothing because “lack of evidence” essentially means “no we don’t agree, this stuff is ok” but nintendo pulls it anyway?

The issue was that this guy brought up the game to make an example of why a part about pornography laws needs to be changed/modified.
as a result someone said something about suing/it being illegal. so the publishers chose to abandon the scandinavian region.

I think they COULD have tried to release it.
But then the group of people against the game would try to bring it to court. with a chance of winning.

As far as I know the major pusher of this law is ECPAT which is an organization that was originally about preventing children from sexual abuse, but which has now turned into something completely different.

Its fucked up.
I would never buy the game anyway but the law we have in sweden is so damn wrong.
Its ok for lets say a 30 year old to have sex with a 15 year old but if he watch a picture of a 17 year old naked girl its child porn… so damn idiotic.

They really have to rewrite that law. I guess I would be more understanding if it was of REAL girls but by made up characters/cartoons? That law is a trolololololol.

Funny thing is that its just numbers that change this from ok to child porn. As its a game and its made up characters they could have just changed the age from whatever it is to 20 or even 60 and then it wouldnt be child porn anymore lol. Fucked up law is fucked up.

Censorship laws are all bullshit no matter what country they come from. They’re protecting underage girls? These are two-dimentional, fictional characters, you morons!

Child pornography laws were enacted to keep children from being exploited. We all applaud that. But now, they are using them as an excuse to stifle artists and writers and, in this case, game developers.

This insanity should stop. As long as no child is actually being exploited, there shouold be freedom of expression for the artists and freedom of appreciation for the beholders.

This is so stupid. So what if the game states that they 17 years old? These DOA girls have the body curves and boobs that everybody dream of, how are they children?
So, if I draw a naked middle-aged woman at Sweden, put a note “17 years old” under it. am I going to be arrested for child porn?
>_>

Real girls’ age of consent is 15. Fictional girls over this age limit who don’t even have sex… can be tried as child porn. Logic bomb ensues. And the saddest thing is, I don’t see this law changing anytime soon, either, unless Swedes get rid of their insane feminists. Good luck with that.

This is especially lul-worthy since I, living in Sweden, went and bought DoA Xtreme 2 a month or so ago. :/
As we know, that game features plenty of ways to view virtual female skin. That’s the whole point of the game, come to think about it.

Why not just—- ADD some years to the girls in the Nordic release? Scribble 18 over their real numbers and there you have it. I highly doubt that mostly old men buy DOA for the young characters. The demography is hormone-raged teenagers and as long as there are hot women with big boobs, age does not matter.

That just results in wordings like “characters who appear to be underage,” which, human bodies varying so much, leads to daft madness like Australia banning pornography featuring adult women with smaller chests.

Sweden’s law are fucked. Just look at those stupid ‘Rape by surprise’ laws in Sweden and you realize that the country has been taken over by radical feminists who apparently cannot realize that children and teenagers ARE beautiful and that since we are born with genitals…. you do the math there.

Wait, wait, wait! Them fool in Sweden consider this game child porn due to the fact that the female characters in the game (3 of them) are under 18 but have a sexy figure appeal, or so that’s what those meat-heads in that country say, no offense to anyone living in that country. Yeah, then if that’s the case then they might as well not have any T or M rated games due to their shot in the foots laws.

This is going to affect the economy in these countries if they continued to release games that contain “child pornography” and ecchi images of underage girls. Plus, this is also hurting the Nintendo of Europe because some video games in Europe are really hard to find nowadays.

They should just say that the setting is a parallel world where everyone stops physically aging at 16. And that while the characters may LOOK young, they are really 250 years old. How can a court prove that that’s NOT true? 🙂

It worked though the article states sweeden threw the clame out and the game was pulled by n but it’s more fun to rage at sweeden because they are the Nordic Canada. Finland that makes you the Nordic America so we are going to need you to step up your shit talking!

I don’t know how bad Sweden is atm but I would suggest against it. I just went to see some friends after the quake. The economy is making life difficult for the Japanese and westerners alike.

Unless you don’t mind living in a ~20sqm apartment and doing temp work for the rest of your life (if you’re lucky enough to find work!), go ahead. Alternatively ace the JLPT N1 and get 10 yrs experience in IT or banking.

Wow, if they need to ban DoA for the 3DS, then they have to ban a lot of games, especially the ones with lolis. But even DoA Paradise for the PSP was fine. Yeesh, someone must hate Nintendo and/or the 3DS this much…

OI! Japan is banning a lot of things but only for a certain age limit their all still available for readers actually intended 18+

The only problem we have is that since the ban was proposed so late, a lot of authors are losing their source of income which is bad and a lot of ongoing titles are either being postponed or halted altogether because of the cost of finding new publishers and the not so simple task of stamping 18+ sticker to the author’s work who he/she would probably think is not THAT erotic, for Japan at least.

heh well I do know the reason of this supposed “ban” and I think I’ll share it with you: https://www.flashback.org/t1525412 and yes, it is in swedish, go figure. basicly a dude wanted to try out swedens wicked laws and this is the results. further translation .. well I leave that to someone who cares, aight? 🙂 night y’al

No, they never were. You might think that because of all that swedish porn and because of TPB but all of that was only tolerated as long as it flew under the radar. Only when the copyright mafias started their witch hunts we saw the real face of that country.

The recent hysteria about CP is a world wide phenomenon. However, the new witch hunt against drawn material is absolutely not something that every country will and should relate to. Fantasy and art should always be free of censorship and punishment because it can never be real. A real life sex crime and a drawn sex crime SHOULD NEVER BE RATED WITH THE SAME STANDARD. If we allow that we will all suffer under fascism.

And don’t give me “Banning hentai is not fascism” because it always has to start somewhere.

Sweden seems to suufer from penis envy after it was declared to be the archenemy of copyrights.

Every country that punishes people for possessing drawn material is retarded. Plain and simple. Their governments can’t distinguish between reality and fiction. In real life that is called “mentally sick”. And that’s what those countries are.

And yes, in case people don’t understand. Sweden is retarded. And so are all the countries that have similar “laws”.

What the fuck is wrong witj you, Sweden? Have all those decades of providing the world-wide market with Grade-A real-life porn been too much for you?

To top it all, they can’t even see the difference between DOA and CP. Go figure.

Hey Sweden, what about IKEA? Why don’t you ban that as CP as well while you’re at it? I mean, it’s just as unrelated to CP as DOA is. Or better yet, please ban yourselves from this planet. The world doesn’t need retarded hypocrits.

Honestly..who gives a shit about ”dead or alive” anymore. their franchise features girls who never change, never get more beautiful, never age at ALL, and for the life of anyone with intelligence… look to be still be produced with the same shitty graphics they had in 2001.these women are internet-whores, displayed over and over in teasing, not really sexual situations to death and its all really..

People who come to this site are expected to understand that he/she is referring to the people who are in charge of this law whether he/she decides to cite this or not.

But this also “somewhat” goes to the the public who don’t want to come together for something a lot of them possible like(ergo this will stay like this forever)

like in my country(i think a lot of people already know) I’m also too blame for not standing(not that I have a choice since the last time I checked there have been only 3 people I’ve met personally who are willing to)

How come the government who passed it hasn’t been replaced by a newly elected one that rolls back the law? Where are the street protests? The public outspeaking for freedom of expression against the government? The truth is, this law is supported by a majority of Swedish retardspeople. And those who simply don’t care because (it appears to them like) it “doesn’t concern me” are just as bad.

Personally I think Nintendo is supporting the activist. Cancellation of a game will get the fans to be more negative towards these laws. A pebble today will be a mountain of pebbles in the future to fall down on the absurd laws.

This is a classic example as to why any law that is vaguely defined is bad.

The irony is some prosecutors don’t really give a damn about justice and are often much more corrupt then the criminals they prosecute.
They’ll abuse any loophole they can find to add brownie points to the resume and advance their careers.

Then tell us Anon 10:14(if that IS your true name?? What did happen? What site actually depicts these events, I’m sure there are a fair number of Swedish Members here at least willing to vouch for that.

We don’t like this as much as the Swedish do(for me at least)

*cue dramatic rainbow!*
Cause I want everyone in the world to enjoy Japanese anime,manga and games for what they truly are(ergo uncensored as much as POSSIBLE)

its because the horrible truth…
mostly the Video Games are confunded by Toys, which they’re not, its sometimes Art,surely Sweeden politicans are acting in the best interest of childs, and their “toys”, some Gammifing education needed there and most countries.

Can someone please send a psychologist to Sweden to tell them that attraction to a 16+ year old is far from pedophilia? Also, exactly how is a clothed teenager a naked child? Someone should teach them the literal meaning of pornography…

Actually, no. The DSM-IV-TR contains the generally accepted definition of what a pedophile is, as it is the manual used to diagnose mental disorders. (I’m not concerned enough to look it up, but I believe it is a clear sexual preference for pre-adolescents. That steers clear of Dead or Alive by miles since the girls are all, well post-pubescent. Moreso than most fully grown centerfolds.)

Laws are made all the time based on emotional impulses and personal convictions, but just because they’re applied to a region doesn’t make them just or even logical.

Don’t want to be a smartass ~ but of course ‘pedophilia’ CAN be labelled as ‘natural’.
From a biological point theres even nothing that can possibly exist and can be called ‘unnatural’.
But medicine and biology view things in different aspects. Doctors believe in a ‘normal condition’ of the body and thus define what is a sickness. From a pure biological point of view however, there is no sickness/genetical or mental diseases. These exists of course due to evolution.
Because defining a ‘normal condition’ is not scientific at all and purely subjective.

Evolution is like rolling a dice. ‘Diseases’ exist because you need to able to roll them and hope for a 6 ! But sometimes it will be a 2. It’s up to reality to decide what is what however.

To Imyou’s example.
If you know that much you’re probably aware of the fact that the WHO defined homosexuality as a mental disorder as well. Which was changed for to political reasons. Something that is ironically prove on how irrelevant and subjective they are.
From a biological point, pedophilia as well as homosexuality probably have a similiar reasoning behind them, and both are not changes that helps those people to reproduce.
This means they should be labeled either both mental disorders or none of them.

Seeing as how a few psychologists have come out saying that pedophilia is actually a normal sexuality and should be called such, thereby renaming it pedosexuality….

Need I also remind that in numerous countries whites having sex with blacks, people having sex outside of marriage, and homosexuality were all illegal at one time or another?

It’s simply time to realize that there is NO SUCH THING as a deviant sexuality, and that children and teenagers can damned well make their OWN sexual choices.

If they don’t want someone touching them sexually? They can threaten to go tell their parents or someone else in a position of authority. If the person doesn’t take the hint? They can actually do that.

It’s past time to realize that children are MORE than able to make their own sexual choices and do NOT have to be ‘protected’ from sex.

Just as some psychologists, some judges, some politicians and some policemen of course are.
So finding anyone anywhere willing to say that pedophilia should be accepted and legalized is not impossible.
But using that one persons reasoning in your own argument, against that of EVERYONE ELSE, makes you illogical and as such driven by non-logical impulses.

Wanna know why the law is the way it is? Parents of teenagers. Particularly, WORRIED parents of teenagers who don’t want their kids going out with the “wrong” people. The trouble is, people mature behaviorally somewhat later than puberty, and that’s where jailbait nonsense comes in. So, parents need to guide their kids longer, but some folks start getting aroused, and the upshot is a law getting slapped upon them.

Also whatever their maturity levels are with their fighting demons and ninjas daily and having bodies of 25 year old models (I think it’s safe to say most girls would kill a few people to get busts like that), even the characterizations of the girls themselves is too unrealistic anyway.

And wow. People showing panties = PORNOGRAPHIC. I hate this world sometimes.

Certain areas of a person’s health are proportionate to the age of his mother at the time of pregnancy. The optional age to give birth, for the sake of the baby, is about 20 (and younger), while giving birth at 40+ is just stupid.

bullshi…. ash is getting younger and shorter… keeps starting over with new pokemon, not to mention he acts like a noob in every new season even after having 10+ yrs of exp … his pikachu shud be like lvl 200 by now… hes never gonna b a master thats y i stopped watching =(

That’s the age of consent here in Britain.
It’s silly, because porn is “illegal” (no one cares) unless you’re 18+
But having sex is fine if you’re 16. Encourage more teenage mothers who have no fathers.

Recently, I was thinking about the irony of how it’s terrible and wrong if a 16-year-old girl sends a naked picture of herself to someone (or if someone possesses pictures of a naked 16-year-old girl), but if a 16-year-old girl goes out and has sex with someone, then it’s perfectly okay. (Depending on the age of consent, of course. Around here, it’s 16.) It doesn’t really make sense.

I was five when I had my first erection. I was hardly what one could call an adult then.
The mind is what determines an adult not age or body functions. Therefore it is very subjective to personal view.

Adulthood is nothing but fictional bullshit. As soon as males and females enter puberty and they are physically ready to mate, they are naturally “adults”.

Nature doesn’t give a fuck about age or numbers.

People came up with that “legal age” shit because they piss their pants for being called perverts and punished for being different. Mind you, i’m not speaking in favor of rapists or real-life CP offenders. The difference is fiction and reality.

Though I somewhat agree to what you said the age consent marker is there for a reason, Although I admit it be to far stretched it’s existence being erased is no more a way to improved things as to me fapping to make the world go round

Please note that the fact we know the existence of a 18+ mark that we are at least able to act accordingly to our age less you still are able to enjoy breastfeeding until today it’s more useful than you might take it to be so do other age markers like being a teenager

and let’s face it the world isn’t as educated as we might take it to be a lot things would be going bad right now if let’s say no age of consent so everybody went wild and AIDS would spread at an uncontrollable rate compared to today

If the laws are sufficiently vague, then like in Japan, it just becomes self-censorship for fear of the repercussions. This not only looks better for the government because they don’t have to crack down on people often, and it’s more harmful because everyone has to interpret the law as strictly as possible to avoid risking being charged under it.

Are people just blindly ignoring the segment that says “After the game was reported to police, who did nothing and said evidence for prosecution was lacking, Nintendo and the Scandinavian regional distributor promptly cancelled the game’s Nordic release anyway”

i LOVE DoA girls, so much that my reasons to buy a 360 are Fable(not good anymore) and DoA , yes 2 games
DoA mostly
but a Hacked down, incomplete, Bugged game its just.. a ripof
any here on Sankaku complex can say anything about it? this game?
i mean i can look for it in google but the Reviews are mostly propaganda, any REAL experiences of this game?
is it worth it?

jesus christ, how is this a fucking ban when all companies voluntarily pull it off the market? nintendo knows damn well that this is a controversial thing and being a company thats “family friendly” its not going to take a lot for them to back out. hell they’re probably looking for any excuse to pull this abomination off the shelf and away from their name.

Im from Sweden and i really enjoying reading all these posts from the mentally handicapped who actually thinks the entire population of Sweden sat down and agreed on this shit, obviously it’s a couple of old faggots somewhere who decided on this because they’re fuckin clueless.