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Re: Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

Ya know....konan did not have a grudge with nagato when yahiko died. So why does obito have that grudge with kakashi? I mean come on....this is the main reason for the infinite tsukiyomi? Sorry....madara, orochimaru, and pein made better viliains than obito.

I'm telling you this becauseyou don't get it, you thinkyou get it, which isn't thesame as actually getting it.Get it?

Re: Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

the timeline ok her an example.(the leaf was attacked when Naruto born.)
Kakashi hatake is 30years old Naruto is 16 years old 30-16 you get 14 if Kakashi was in the age of obito how obito culd fight against 4th hokage,control tailed beast and kazekage 14 years old brat culd do this in no time with Half of his body crushed(14years old that bug me) Kishi i will love to see how this will be explained witout any soul tranfering or zetsu,jutsu interference.
Explain this u Obito fans.

Re: Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

As we have seen in chapter 603 Obito starts wearing one of the Zetsus as armour. Maybe he got fused with it permanently, which also explains why he prefered wearing the red swirl mask that looks exactly like the creature's face.

Maybe this "suit" increases his strength enormously and brings him on the same level as the 4th. We will see in the nexr few chapters what changed Obito to his evil self Tobi.

Re: Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

IMO, Obito can time travel, or the guy that was controlling Yagura was someone else entirely (meaning there are 2 Tobis). Can't think of any other way to explain who was controlling Yagura (I think it's pretty obvious that it couldn't have been Madara).

Re: Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

I gotta say i didn't believe Obito was Tobi, then again I didn't really care about his identity either. When I think about it, there weren't any better alternatives. Now that Tobi has a face I like him alot more than when he was just a mask with no facial expressions.

Re: Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

I really didnt want it to be obito,I thought it was a little too cheesy and obvious,I was hoping it was gonna be someone else because everybody came up with sooo many theories about it being Madara Uchiha but I really thought it was gonna be Kagami even though he really had nothing to do with the situation or have any reason to attack the hidden leaf.

Re: Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

My Tobi, Obito, Madara Theory:

Madara was old and needed to be young again. He decided to give nagato the rinnegan so he could later make nagato ressurect him. Madara made kabuto ressurect tobi and decided to use him as a vessel for a few reasons: 1.No one would notice that he was gone because he was thought dead 2.He was an uchiha 3.He had already activated his sharingan. Tobi/obito denied becoming madaras vessel and madara died beacuse of this. Tobi/obito the took up the alias "Madara Uchiha" and modt of madaras goals.

Ch607-Pg01:
"If you're using Madara Uchiha's name you must be either a criminal or an idiot"

Re: Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

Originally Posted by Mysterytee

My Tobi, Obito, Madara Theory:

Madara was old and needed to be young again. He decided to give nagato the rinnegan so he could later make nagato ressurect him. Madara made kabuto ressurect tobi and decided to use him as a vessel for a few reasons: 1.No one would notice that he was gone because he was thought dead 2.He was an uchiha 3.He had already activated his sharingan. Tobi/obito denied becoming madaras vessel and madara died beacuse of this. Tobi/obito the took up the alias "Madara Uchiha" and modt of madaras goals.

Ch607-Pg01:
"If you're using Madara Uchiha's name you must be either a criminal or an idiot"

Re: Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

there are still too many holes in it being obito and i think its just lazy writing.
1. within 2 years with training only from a man who can barely walk he was able to control the kyuubi, extract it, and begin attacking konaha and the 4th hokage?
2. he didnt have any attachments whatsoever to the village other than rin, a girl whom he had a crush on, not even his family members or even just other people in the uchiha clan
3. i guess ill accept that he may have looked full grown due to him wearing the spiral zetsu
4. the most pathetic thing, it took kakashi more than a decade to use the ms even though he had a teacher who was the hokage and the entire uchiha village there to get help from?

it seems all rushed, they didnt want to make it a new character because that would mean a longer back ground story so they justed used obito who took until about 13 to unlock his sharigan but took until 15 to not only unlock ms but also attack a village, verse the hokage and control the kyuubi? This is worse than the power ups in Dragon ball z.

Re: Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

Originally Posted by leezagboola

there are still too many holes in it being obito and i think its just lazy writing.
1. within 2 years with training only from a man who can barely walk he was able to control the kyuubi, extract it, and begin attacking konaha and the 4th hokage?
2. he didnt have any attachments whatsoever to the village other than rin, a girl whom he had a crush on, not even his family members or even just other people in the uchiha clan
3. i guess ill accept that he may have looked full grown due to him wearing the spiral zetsu
4. the most pathetic thing, it took kakashi more than a decade to use the ms even though he had a teacher who was the hokage and the entire uchiha village there to get help from?

it seems all rushed, they didnt want to make it a new character because that would mean a longer back ground story so they justed used obito who took until about 13 to unlock his sharigan but took until 15 to not only unlock ms but also attack a village, verse the hokage and control the kyuubi? This is worse than the power ups in Dragon ball z.

I agree, it does seem rushed. And the worst part is, it's obvious he planned it for a while. Even back when Kakashi first notices 'Tobi's' sharingan in the forest I believe Kishi knew he would use Obito as the masked guy but I think he took it for granted and never thought out the details just figuring it would all fit into place nicely. Then he screwed himself by making certain comments to people like Konan and even the 4th Hokage's back story during the Pain saga, and especially Kushina's back story. Now he's scrambling to make everything fit and your right, it feels very rushed.

Re: Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

If you could have had Tobi been anyone else, who would you rather it had been? I think it would have been cool if madara was never resurrected, and it was Madara inhabiting Obito's body, and madara had all of the powers he has now, while having the powers of Obito. I think that would have been and would have made people happier.

Re: Tobi/ObitoTheories: What, why and how and then some

So everything i said was right.Why do i not get any props? All that is left is for Obito is to switch sides and help naruto defeat madara. By the way its shaping from the manga. Looks like it will happen. I will be back here to say i told you so when that happens!