NBA Legend and TIME columnist Kareem Abdul-Jabbar believes “more whites in America believe in ghosts, than believe in racism. That’s why we have shows like Ghostbusters and not Racistbusters.”

Talking about the election of Barack Obama in 2008, he said some people viewed that “as the end of racism,” but warned that we still have a long way to go. When people see Obama talk, as a black man “they assume he has an agenda. White Americans are not a group that is targeted.”