“Right,” admits DeGeneres. “But it’s just y’all hanging out – this does not prove anything. I’m just saying he’s adorable and I like him very much, and so if that is the case that he’s your boyfriend, I think that’s fantastic.”

Still, noting that Swift herself admits that she writes songs about her boyfriends once the relationships end, DeGeneres asks Swift on Gyllenhaal’s behalf, “Wouldn’t he be nervous if anything goes wrong?’