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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

I felt the chapter was pretty good. People have high expectations. :ice:

Honestly, a chapter alone SHOULD NOT be rated without considering previous or forthcoming chapters.
Its probably better to have a rating system for a collection of chapters instead of just one chapter because it seems people ask too much from one chapter.

If a chapter has too much action, people will react:

Too much action, not enough story 1/5

If a chapter has too much talking, people will react:

Too much talking, not enough action 1/5

Or Kishi may introduce an 1) idea before the 2) explanation. He may introduce some sort of interesting yet shocking idea as a setup chapter and people will demand explanation right away on that same chapter:

How did he know that jutsu? Plothole! 1/5

Then he'll probably give the explanation as an explanation chapter several chapters after and people will still probably react:

Too much talking and explaining, not enough interesting ideas being introduced 1/5

Summary:

People demand too much from one chapter

People should review a chapter while considering previous and forthcoming chapters

Enjoy the chapter! Your not even paying for this shit, you spoiled brat! (Just kidding:D... partly).

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

Originally Posted by FloriGlori

lol, Shikaku told the Taijutsu users to engage Madara. Did they totally forget about Susanoo?

Well, it wasn't overwhelming, but it was a good chapter nonetheless. The allied forces fighting together clearly has its touch. Their performance was quite impressive, even though Kishimoto had to make Obito and Madara do nothing in order to actually give them a chance of demonstrating their powers. Furthermore, this seems to be the army's elite, the survivors; the useless, imbecile trash that we got to know during previous parts of the war was sorted out by Zetsu and Edo Tensei, in the end. No, here we have several Kekkei Genkai and high level Ninjutsu users. When I compare the amount of people people that were necessary to counter one of Madara's Katon moves to what these Shinobi just did, the size of that gap becomes obvious. Not just that their numbers were lower; the scale they used their techniques on was astounding, being able to house even the Juubi, who's several times as large as an ordinary Bijuu.

But no matter how impressive that combination was, Obito's and Madara's counterattack will be even more impressive.

- They have absolutely no idea of Madara's perfect Susanoo.
- The Juubi is evolving even further.
- They (and even we) don't know yet what Obito is truly capable of.

At the end of the day, they still won't stand a chance, that's why right now I'm even more curious on how they'll surive this intense encounter. Right now they're clinging, as Obito correctly states, to a hope that does not exist. I just hope that their hope will really be crushed; right now they seem too optimistic. Instead of a confident Naruto, there should be one in range, trambling of anger. And luckily, the more obvious the gap between Naruto's and Obito's intentions becomes, the more cold and arrogant he becomes again, and the more likely it seems. They're not many people anymore, so the chance of someone dear to Naruto being killed is considerably high. There's also still the news about the Kage's defeat that most Shinobi don't know about, yet; this might be especially interesting when it comes to Sakura learning about Tsunade. Chatte also made a nice theory about the resemblance between Obito/Rin and Naruto/Sakura, so something emotional might be happening here, too.

Other things I've noticed:

Just how did the HQ find out Kamui's five minutes limit? Konan was the only one to force him beyond that limit until now, and as far as I know they did not have any connection to her. Is there a scroll called 'The mechanics of Kamui' or what?.

I wondered why everyone in the HQ is so calm, despite knowing what happened to the Kage (Madara switched the location, their Chakra must be quite low). But then I remembered what Inoichi said about them not even having enough time to be shocked about Tobi's identity; I suppose the same may go for the Kage's defeat. Demoralizing the allied forces would be unwise at this point as well.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

Originally Posted by Lilvic92

Please Sasuke save this manga. That shit was horrible!

Your sig is awesome and speaks the truth

but never mind that, i just think this chapter was a waste of time, it's even worse than the uchiha bro vs kabuto! :sy:
well i really hope that 613 is better and filled with pure action, since 612 was about the plans and how to fight

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

Originally Posted by Gatsuuga

Don't understand what everyone is *****ing about. The chapter was good, and had an underlying message that people completely missed. Tobi was talking about how the villages aren't actually unified and that nothing has really changed. Yet what we saw was a perfect uniting of all villages to pull of the best collaboration we have ever seen. All the elements had a specific purpose in that they all exemplify their respective country, ie konoha used fire for th fire country, sand used wind for the wind country, etc, etc.

People don't appreciate the things Kishi is actually trying to portray through his panels which as always were beautifully drawn. Also lol at people that said the alliance was fodder - they just owned madara, obito and the Juubi.

Also just because you want to see sasuke doesn't mean that every chapter until his is shown is crap since it didn't include him.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

ok people. There is a very good reason why the 10 tails didn't do anything. All of the orders were given telepathically, so everyone was synchronized and virtually doing all their Jobs at once. Now, why Madara and Obito didn't do anything, I have no idea. Madara is full of himself and thinks that they can't possibly loose...he's already died once. he can die again.

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

I think it was a decent chapter. I would have liked it to have been a bit longer, but I have no complaints.

And for those wondering how Shikaku Nara knew about the 5 minute interval with kamui, remember that he had previously talked to Naruto telepathically (towards the beginning of the war, as Naruto and Bee were heading to the battlefield). I'm guessing that the link was never broken. Either that or the fact that the intel squad can locate and communicate with any member of the Allied Shinobi Force comes into play. I highly doubt it's a plothole though.

Do they realy expect me tomake a complete mockery ofmyself by entering through theback door of my own Palace?

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

Disappointed to have waited a week for this. Gave it a 3 and even that felt generous. Like someone said earlier they spent most of the chapter making concrete. Next week's release should be good. Jubi is about to reach perfect stage and I can't imagine that being a let down

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 612 Discussion and 613 Predictions

Originally Posted by thewondererer

I felt the chapter was pretty good. People have high expectations. :ice:

Honestly, a chapter alone SHOULD NOT be rated without considering previous or forthcoming chapters.
Its probably better to have a rating system for a collection of chapters instead of just one chapter because it seems people ask too much from one chapter.

If a chapter has too much action, people will react:

If a chapter has too much talking, people will react:

Or Kishi may introduce an 1) idea before the 2) explanation. He may introduce some sort of interesting yet shocking idea as a setup chapter and people will demand explanation right away on that same chapter:

Then he'll probably give the explanation as an explanation chapter several chapters after and people will still probably react:

Summary:

People demand too much from one chapter

People should review a chapter while considering previous and forthcoming chapters

Enjoy the chapter! Your not even paying for this shit, you spoiled brat! (Just kidding:D... partly).

This, pretty much!
Were people expecting the alliance to die in this one chapter, right after they arrived? that would've made that wait for them pretty pointless, more than what people make this chapter out to be. They need a little time to shine too...before all their hopes are destroyed.

Oh, and the concrete jokes are getting annoying. What else are they supposed to do (or can do)? Name something else they could've done? throw kunai? And of course it's not gonna work, after all this build up to the 10 tails, you think anything the alliance throws at it is gonna work.

Also, hating this chapter just because Sasuke isn't it, is not a good reason (plus that complaint has been used so many times, he's gone alot, get used to it already, and people have been complaining about "where's Sasuke?" way before this arc, Chunin exams anyone?)