Rumor: Is this the subtitle for Star Wars: Episode VII?

Rumors come in two varieties: those that end up being true and those that are total works of fiction. Since the invention of The Internet, many rumors that sounded like total bullshit turned out to be true. Hell, even when news came down that Disney bought Lucasfilm we all thought it was an elaborate joke and look at us now. We are talking about casting, storylines, and titles for STAR WARS: EPISODE VII.

Speaking of titles, Talkbacker.com claims they have a source who has divulged the leading subtitle for STAR WARS: EPISODE VII. Talkbacker doesn't ring a bell which usually sets of my bullshit alarm, but major websites are reporting their story so I figured we should check it out. The site claims they have a source as well as two others that are substantiating it that the title for STAR WARS: EPISODE VII shall be A NEW DAWN.

This title has been floating around since last year so it could just be the re-appearance of an older rumor or it could be what George Lucas had in mind when he wrote the outlines for the new trilogy. It certainly would be a nice reminder of A NEW HOPE and keep the promise of the new series following the classic three films instead of aping the prequels.

The source also claims that construction is underway at Pinewood Studios in England on a 1:1 scale replica of the Millennium Falcon along with sets for a power plant and the Mos Eisley Cantina. Maybe J.J. Abrams is taking us back to the classic films after all. Disney and Lucasfilm are not going to show their cards that easily until they are ready to make a big announcement. Once that happens I am sure we will only get cast, the official title, and possibly a basic plot outline. Until that day comes, let us debate whether A NEW DAWN is a good title or not.

Good title, but would prefer something to suggest dark times are returning.

"A New Dawn" is a good title and carries a familiar sound of "A New Hope". But....is that what Episode VII should start off with? Episode VI ended in the highest of hopes: The Death Star II was destroyed, the Sith Emperor was killed, Vader was redeemed, the Empire left in ruins, the Jedi order resurrected. It's time for some dark dealings to happen. A new dark era to arise. I always pictured a "Episode VII: Rise of The Empire" title feel. "A New Hope" was a perfect title to suggest that after

"A New Dawn" is a good title and carries a familiar sound of "A New Hope". But....is that what Episode VII should start off with? Episode VI ended in the highest of hopes: The Death Star II was destroyed, the Sith Emperor was killed, Vader was redeemed, the Empire left in ruins, the Jedi order resurrected. It's time for some dark dealings to happen. A new dark era to arise. I always pictured a "Episode VII: Rise of The Empire" title feel. "A New Hope" was a perfect title to suggest that after about 20 devastating years of the Sith and the Empire ruling the galaxy, the Rebels would spark hope in restoring the galaxy. For Episode VII, isn't it time for a new dark era to arise?

Too similar to A New Hope and Dawn of the Planet of the Apes

They should go a little glitzier. A New Dawn is kinda boring. We already know it's the beginning of another chapter. Previous Star Wars titles have been significantly more revealing (with the exception of Phantom Menace and A New Hope) so...maybe they're throwing this out there as a distraction until the real (more descriptive) title is made known.

They should go a little glitzier. A New Dawn is kinda boring. We already know it's the beginning of another chapter. Previous Star Wars titles have been significantly more revealing (with the exception of Phantom Menace and A New Hope) so...maybe they're throwing this out there as a distraction until the real (more descriptive) title is made known.

I'll admit, the title could be a lot more creative. And I would definitely prefer something better. But if this is the final product, so be it. It's certainly not the worst creative idea implemented for a Star Wars movie.

I'll admit, the title could be a lot more creative. And I would definitely prefer something better. But if this is the final product, so be it. It's certainly not the worst creative idea implemented for a Star Wars movie.

I don't...

give a shit what the title is, as long as the movie is great and Abrams doesn't lens flare the shit out of it like he did with star trek. Could you imagine a lightsaber battle distorted and unseeable because of some "stylistic" lens flare bullshit!

give a shit what the title is, as long as the movie is great and Abrams doesn't lens flare the shit out of it like he did with star trek. Could you imagine a lightsaber battle distorted and unseeable because of some "stylistic" lens flare bullshit!

Relax, this isn't the title.

I follow Quint from Ain't It Cool News on Twitter and according to him there is no truth to this rumor. He went on to point out that Talkbacker.com is a website started by disgruntled AICN message board members who were fed up with the site and decided to start their own, so their credibility remains highly in doubt. They ran a rumor that others had been hearing for months but knew better than to post.

I follow Quint from Ain't It Cool News on Twitter and according to him there is no truth to this rumor. He went on to point out that Talkbacker.com is a website started by disgruntled AICN message board members who were fed up with the site and decided to start their own, so their credibility remains highly in doubt. They ran a rumor that others had been hearing for months but knew better than to post.

Fair enough, but regardless of what Star Wars was released as in '77, when Empire Strikes Back was released in '80 it introduced the subtitles to the Star Wars franchise. And as such, it's become the expectation of every Star Wars released since than to have a subtitle. Would you expect them to go back to just: Star Wars for the seventh movie? It would seem a little ridiculous.

Fair enough, but regardless of what Star Wars was released as in '77, when Empire Strikes Back was released in '80 it introduced the subtitles to the Star Wars franchise. And as such, it's become the expectation of every Star Wars released since than to have a subtitle. Would you expect them to go back to just: Star Wars for the seventh movie? It would seem a little ridiculous.

You make a good point about no one using A New Hope before the new trilogy. But when there are so many you have to make them stand apart. Watch JJ go for Star Wars Into Darkness, or something equally as insulting. In fact, when I think of that name, the movie itself, and the fact that he has now moved on to Star Wars, it almost makes me think he used that title for the new Star Trek movie on purpose. No more JJ for Star Trek!

You make a good point about no one using A New Hope before the new trilogy. But when there are so many you have to make them stand apart. Watch JJ go for Star Wars Into Darkness, or something equally as insulting. In fact, when I think of that name, the movie itself, and the fact that he has now moved on to Star Wars, it almost makes me think he used that title for the new Star Trek movie on purpose. No more JJ for Star Trek!

are you serious when you say JJ does not do cliche? Have you seen Star Trek Into Darkness? He literally made Star Trek transform from something cool and hip to dorky and cliche with that one. You may wanna rethink your confidence in JJ.

are you serious when you say JJ does not do cliche? Have you seen Star Trek Into Darkness? He literally made Star Trek transform from something cool and hip to dorky and cliche with that one. You may wanna rethink your confidence in JJ.

I like it - evokes Episode 4 which is more what you want. As long as they avoid the words "Dark", "Darkness", "Rise" and "Rising" then I'm cool with it. If they call it Star Wars Episode 7: The Rising Dark I will cry.

I like it - evokes Episode 4 which is more what you want. As long as they avoid the words "Dark", "Darkness", "Rise" and "Rising" then I'm cool with it. If they call it Star Wars Episode 7: The Rising Dark I will cry.

Why?

Why should episodes 7-9 bother referencing anything that happened in the EU? I honestly don't want to see the Imperial remanent at all. The EU beat that dead horse stupid. The really need to do an original story completely divorced from the EU. As for the title... Bleh! The can come up with something better than that but it doesn't bother me.

Why should episodes 7-9 bother referencing anything that happened in the EU? I honestly don't want to see the Imperial remanent at all. The EU beat that dead horse stupid. The really need to do an original story completely divorced from the EU. As for the title... Bleh! The can come up with something better than that but it doesn't bother me.

The "rule" is more to do with the titles mirroring one another than the number of words they're made up of.

A New Hope (a tangible hope) / The Phantom Menace (an intangible fear)
Empire Strikes Back (bad guys attack) / Attack of the Clones (good guys attack)
Return of the Jedi (day of the good guy) / Revenge of the Sith (day of the bad guy)

The "rule" is more to do with the titles mirroring one another than the number of words they're made up of.

A New Hope (a tangible hope) / The Phantom Menace (an intangible fear)
Empire Strikes Back (bad guys attack) / Attack of the Clones (good guys attack)
Return of the Jedi (day of the good guy) / Revenge of the Sith (day of the bad guy)

thats timothy zahns title.....but I have to say I liked Heir to the Empire book quite a bit....and it sounds like they might follow the story a bit too....esp. with the Emperor still being alive or somethin

thats timothy zahns title.....but I have to say I liked Heir to the Empire book quite a bit....and it sounds like they might follow the story a bit too....esp. with the Emperor still being alive or somethin

Personally...

I don't like it. Too referential to A New Hope. Also, it suggests things are going to be happy. It's Star Wars, so you'd expect some kind of actual war or conflict to be going on. New Dawn doesn't convey that. I expect this one will end up being just a rumor.

I don't like it. Too referential to A New Hope. Also, it suggests things are going to be happy. It's Star Wars, so you'd expect some kind of actual war or conflict to be going on. New Dawn doesn't convey that. I expect this one will end up being just a rumor.