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We don't teach them NOT to swing, but we teach them to use a shortened swing.

I've got tons of video footage, but I don't like to put a lot of it up because I have a tendency to talk way too much rather than simply demonstrate a drill.... That's one of the reasons I have so many of my training sessions video taped is to try to encourage me to break the habit.

That makes sense. I've always just met the kick with the pads, though with people that kick pretty hard I have found that their kicks will cut right through the pad and hurt my arms.

I guess this isn't really a problem for f4n4n and his TKD class (ooooohh!)

This is why I (in the original thread) opted for a certain shield, which is different to the Thai pads. But hey make your jokes about TKD and then realize that we do the exact same drill (as shown in the video), only we use a vertical pad for people to turn their hips more and generate more power. (Yes also we lift the knee first and not the complete leg and we don't drop our hand to the side when kicking like you see khun kao do it but in general it is the same fucking thing)

PS: How are you holding the pads? How is your stance, how close do you hold them to the body etc.?

But hey make your jokes about TKD and then realize that we do the exact same drill (as shown in the video), only we use a vertical pad for people to turn their hips more and generate more power. (Yes also we lift the knee first and not the complete leg and we don't drop our hand to the side when kicking like you see khun kao do it but in general it is the same fucking thing)

This is why people on the internet hate TKD. Go to a Muay Thai gym and train then you will know why this statement is total bullshit. In case you are wondering why everyone else already knows we trained both. TKD isn't some mysterious art from the Korean mountains.

We don't teach them NOT to swing, but we teach them to use a shortened swing.

I've got tons of video footage, but I don't like to put a lot of it up because I have a tendency to talk way too much rather than simply demonstrate a drill.... That's one of the reasons I have so many of my training sessions video taped is to try to encourage me to break the habit.

^^ I read this and this guy's above post and tried it out, however I can't afford gym fees so I haven't been able to kick anything of substance.