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Comments on MetaFilter post FEAR THE ARTICHOKE KINGWed, 05 Sep 2012 15:37:59 -0800Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:37:59 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60FEAR THE ARTICHOKE KINGhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2012/09/02/nyregion/a-history-of-new-york-in-50-objects.html?ref=nyregion#/?gridItem=all">The History Of New York In 50 Objects (NYT)</a> post:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:34:25 -0800The WhelkNYTNYCNewYorkBrooklynManhattanQueensBronxStatenIslandErieCanalobjectsartifactscuratoryoysterstusksbattlescivilwarrvolutionarywarmobsubwaydutchslaverysingersewingbosstweedbridgebagelACtickertapecheckeredcabslevitttownUNAIDSLosiadabaseballedisonArmoryshowgeneralSlocumwallstreetautomatBy: griphushttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550030
I can't believe they missed: <a href="http://katzsdelicatessen.com/media//Sandwich9web.jpg">1888 - Katz's</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550030Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:37:59 -0800griphusBy: The Whelkhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550037
No mention of the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire on the sewing machine entry either, or stuff like The Masses. Oh well.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550037Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:45:48 -0800The WhelkBy: Ad hominemhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550043
I managed to go to the last automat on 42nd as a young child. I seem to remember they had a faucet that dispensed gravy. That was the best thing ever. When I finally have fuck you money I'm going to get hot and cold running gravy. Why cold gravy? Cuz fuck you.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550043Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:54:09 -0800Ad hominemBy: 1970s Antiherohttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550050
<a href="http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2012/09/04/living_reef_made_of_millions_of_oysters_to_clean_the_gowanus.php">Living Reef Made of Millions of Oysters to Clean the Gowanus</a>
<i>A new pier is being built at the mouth of the Gowanus Canal, but it's not for a new pretty waterfront park. It will host millions of mollusks that will help clean the toxic Superfund waterway. ... One oyster can filter up to 50 gallons of water a day</i>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550050Wed, 05 Sep 2012 16:01:03 -08001970s AntiheroBy: Keith Talenthttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550051
<em>I managed to go to the last automat on 42nd as a young child. I seem to remember they had a faucet that dispensed gravy. That was the best thing ever. When I finally have fuck you money I'm going to get hot and cold running gravy. Why cold gravy? Cuz fuck you.</em>
I had my hate on response for cold gravy before I even finished reading. Glad I finished reading before posting. Well played.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550051Wed, 05 Sep 2012 16:02:04 -0800Keith TalentBy: deadmessengerhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550053
What, no puddle of urine? It just wouldn't be New York without a few.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550053Wed, 05 Sep 2012 16:02:55 -0800deadmessengerBy: griphushttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550055
The rich have faucets for urine, right next to their gravy faucets. No relying on puddles for them, not since Giuliani.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550055Wed, 05 Sep 2012 16:10:08 -0800griphusBy: Ice Cream Socialisthttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550056
I used to share a big apartment in Queens with a pair of slovenly old men. Seems like I delivered the Flushing Remonstrance at least twice a month.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550056Wed, 05 Sep 2012 16:14:53 -0800Ice Cream SocialistBy: Ad hominemhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550066
Man they have had plans for the Gowanus since forever.
I lived right next to it for a while and spent many an hour tossing fireworks into it trying to light it on fire. People always said they had plans to open it up to the Atlantic but they stopped the plan because they couldn't dredge as it was built on an ancient mastodon burial ground.
Then I heard they were going to put in giant propellers to circulate the water out into the ocean. Then I heard they couldn't because diseases that live nowhere else on earth live in the Gowanus and they didn't want them getting loose, since no living creature has immunity.
I don't think oysters can clean the gowanus. At best they will mutate and eat the rats and feral dogs in those vacant lots near Gowanus Hollows.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550066Wed, 05 Sep 2012 16:24:03 -0800Ad hominemBy: elizardbitshttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550069
Also they all have the clap.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550069Wed, 05 Sep 2012 16:26:31 -0800elizardbitsBy: Ad hominemhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550071
<em>Also they all have the clap.
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The rich since Giuliani or the Gowanus Oysters?
There better be a gastropub in Park Slope serving a dish called Gowanus Oysters by christmas.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550071Wed, 05 Sep 2012 16:30:06 -0800Ad hominemBy: The Whelkhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550072
Man this is the second time in four days the conversation has turned to the veneral diseases in Gowanus Canalcomment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550072Wed, 05 Sep 2012 16:31:02 -0800The WhelkBy: Sys Rqhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550076
<em>gowanus</em>
Is that a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elbpw3d2qEk">portmanteau?</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550076Wed, 05 Sep 2012 16:36:22 -0800Sys RqBy: Araucariahttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550122
Hey, <strong>Ad hominem</strong>, I used to live next to the Gowanus also, on the corner of 1st and Bond, back in the mid-'80s.
I once met some Brazilian sailors in the subway who had arrived in NY via fuel barge up the canal, docked next to the Carroll Street bridge.
Another time, (fall 1985, I think?) there was a big ruckus down at the edge of the canal one grey Sunday afternoon. Several police divers in orange drysuits were searching for something in the water. When I asked one big walrus-mustached diver what they were looking for, he replied "Nothin!".comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550122Wed, 05 Sep 2012 17:14:30 -0800AraucariaBy: Ad hominemhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550163
I lived on 4th street Between Smith and Hoyt, mid-late 80s
One of the urban legends was that the mob dumped bodies there. I saw a car parked on smith and 5th, near that vacant lot with a dead guy in it. Another urban legend was neighborhood kids would go joyriding and push the cars into the Gowanus to hide them.
That was a weird area, I told the here story once before about roosters in the street stopping cars on Hoyt and 4th, there was a cockfighting ring there and they let the roosters walk around in the middle of the street. There were also these crazy guys from the salvage yards across the canal riding 4wheelers all the hell over.
I loved it there, my parents of course did not. I was like 10 and they did not approve of me spending all my time trying to light the canal on fire.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550163Wed, 05 Sep 2012 17:39:24 -0800Ad hominemBy: Horace Rumpolehttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550225
<em>gowanus
Is that a portmanteau?</em>
Gow That's What I Call Anus!comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550225Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:24:44 -0800Horace RumpoleBy: griphushttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550232
Years ago, I was down there, and saw a store with a vandalized corner awning that had GOWANUS written on both sides. On one side, the vandals had done the proper thing and turned it into GO ANUS. On the other GOW NUS.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550232Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:40:33 -0800griphusBy: etc.http://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550246
I got to the bottom of the page to find a, what?, jar of dirt? [hovered] "9/11" Oh.
Hey, NYT, it's still not cool to spring that shit on us.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550246Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:53:52 -0800etc.By: etc.http://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550249
And now back to Gowanus jokes! Don't forget that "canal" is "C" plus "anal"!comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550249Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:54:38 -0800etc.By: griphushttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550255
<small><small>es</small></small>SEX STREET MARKETcomment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550255Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:01:55 -0800griphusBy: The Whelkhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550278
Apparently in Manchester the most vandalized sign is for Canal Street.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550278Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:22:33 -0800The WhelkBy: Ice Cream Socialisthttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550297
I once lived at the intersection of Canal and Essex.
Good times.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550297Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:42:30 -0800Ice Cream SocialistBy: SPrintFhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550383
Isn't the Brooklyn Bridge an object?
Maybe it's stretching the point but, isn't Central Park a object?
And the "9/11" jar was just insulting. The photos of the devastation of the towers (those sad, decrepit shells) will live with me forever. This puddle of, what, paper, plaster and asbestos? Something poisonous and inhuman? What is that? Nothing! Where are the lives that were lost?comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550383Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:59:34 -0800SPrintFBy: KingEdRahttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550499
SPrintF, for many New Yorkers, especially first responders and those who worked at Ground Zero in the weeks following the attacks searching for the remains of victims, that "puddle of nothing" is a very real reminder of the lives that were lost. It is also a reminder of the health problems that affect some of those workers due to their exposure to something "poisonous and inhuman." When I saw the picture, I didn't even need to hover over it to know what the object represented. Short of all those "missing" flyers victims families were putting up during the rescue phase of the excavation of The Pit, that jar of dust is the most significant object you could have to represent 9/11 because that's all that was left.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550499Thu, 06 Sep 2012 00:12:16 -0800KingEdRaBy: KingEdRahttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550501
And moving on to a less serious object, I was amused no end by the the story of the Artichoke King. Also, somebody should make up "Gowanus Surf Team" shirts.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550501Thu, 06 Sep 2012 00:17:06 -0800KingEdRaBy: Virtbluehttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550540
Last year Radio 4 did a history of the world in <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/ahistoryoftheworld/exploreraltflash/">100 objects</a>, IIRC most if not all of the objects are held at the British museum.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550540Thu, 06 Sep 2012 02:22:47 -0800VirtblueBy: adrianhonhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4550587
Virtblue: All of them are at the British Museum; the programme, A History of the World in 100 Objects, was written and presented by the BM and made with the BBC.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4550587Thu, 06 Sep 2012 03:21:12 -0800adrianhonBy: StickyCarpethttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4551637
<em>This puddle of, what, paper, plaster and asbestos? </em>
I purposefully did not save any of that, which was inches deep on my windowsill and even inside. Mainly, I didn't want to "take anything away," to profit in any way from such an evil thing. My brother-in-law, a doctor, looked at the "dust" from my window sill with a magnifier, and found hair and bone fragments.
All of the dust was categorized as crime scene evidence, and it was illegal to take any.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4551637Thu, 06 Sep 2012 12:44:40 -0800StickyCarpetBy: crossovermanhttp://www.metafilter.com/119651/FEAR-THE-ARTICHOKE-KING#4552351
I know it's the longest-running-show-ever, but boy do I hate that Broadway is represented by the mask from Phantom of the Opera.comment:www.metafilter.com,2012:site.119651-4552351Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:08:45 -0800crossoverman