Hi playdayz,
Thanks for the interest. Actually Cinelerra is great but the learning curve is steep thus not easy to grasp by the average user. On the other, although quite a young program in the video editing area of linux, openshot is easy to use, at least by me , and it looks promising as the developer keeps updating it frequently.

Hi
Has Puppy 5 quit supporting win-modems?
My pci lucent/agere winmodem is not found in Lucid 5 and after having a look in /dev I can't find any of the old win-modems that have worked in puppy since puppy 2.17 or something like that.

Lupu and Quirky are using the 2.6.33.2 kernel, and so far I haven't been able to compile many of the old modem drivers.

Perhaps the source code of some of them will get patched so they compile, but not many knowledgeable people are interested in doing that these days.

So, for many old win modems, you need a puppy built with one of our older kernels, such as the 2.6.30.5 kernel used in the standard Puppy 4.3.1.

I don't know if Lupu would work if built with the 2.6.30.5 kernel, due to its use of Ubuntu packages. If you really need to use a win modem, try either Puppy 4.3.1 or my Quirky-Retro 1.1rc. Note to others reading this, the 2.6.33.2 kernel does support some win modems, just not as many as the older kernel.

Hi Barry
I did manage to find a *.deb package with source, for the updated martian/agere modem drivers for lucid but the install flopped.
Maybe somebody with a little more knowledge and an LT modem will have better luck with this one.
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/martian-modem/20080625-1

First attempt at Lucid. It doesn't do the one thing I need an Ubuntu-compatible Puppy to do ... install and play Gnome games!

I download the gnome-game basics plus AisleRiot Solitaire and Mahjongg from the package manager and I get heaps of missing dependencies. Problem is there isn't any place to get them from the package manager listing? All libs. Things like libcanberra-something or other???

Sorry for the negative response, but it seems to me that an Ubuntu-compatible version should run Gnome applications, shouldn't it? Otherwise what's the point of having access to the repository?

Ok, ok. I'll wait for the release and hope it's all right on the night... _________________Actions speak louder than words ... and they usually work when words don't!
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Did you remember to update the Ubuntu Lucid package listings from within Puppy Package Manager? This will ensure that necessary dependencies are made available. You even have to do this on a fresh install of real Ubuntu.

The business of installing Gnome applications (or KDE applications for that matter), even in a version of Puppy made up from Ubuntu has not been fully solved - to date at least. The native Puppy Package Manager seems unable to fully cope with accurately installing Gnome and KDE dependencies thus far. This will not get properly resolved until such time as apt-get and Synaptic have been completely integrated into Puppy. I made a start on this at one point and only got as far as a flakey and unstable install of Synaptic/apt-get. Some time afterwards Gposil I think it was, of Dpup fame, also had a try at this but seemed to have stalled at much the place that I got to. The problem is one of configuring apt-get correctly. The resolution of this problem will be to purloin the apt-get configuration script from the Debian Lenny install ISO and adapt it for use with Puppy. The Synaptic GUI itself also has dependency issues.

Until such time as this nirvana arrives, it's still a good idea to have even limited Ubuntu compatibility IMHO - e.g. I have just installed the Ubuntu Lucid GNUPG package directly from Lupu's Puppy Package Manager with no problems - dependencies or otherwise. This saved me from having to google around for a suitable pet package. Loads of other Ubuntu stuff installs perfectly as well.

I doubt if this will get fully sorted out in the immediate future though, but when it finally arrives, as I've no doubt it will, it will be a major achievement in itself and will propel Puppy right up there to the level that the big dogs of Linux currently occupy. Shouldn't be all that difficult to do. Both Knoppix and DSL managed it some time ago.

Gposil's DPUP project is on hold for the moment. This is one thumping good Puppy derivative as well and will be well worth the wait. We'll just have to be patient for a bit longer._________________Life is too short to spend it in front of a computer

<rant>
I got my self a new box on Wednesday. Asus mobo, nforce chipset (forget the model number), AMD X2 processor and a gforce video card. It was more or less to celebrate this release . Plus I have been using the old Athlon XP2100+ box for the last 6 years and thought .. why not?

I also decided to download Mandriva .. ( ).. ha.. yeah Mandrake converted me to Linux many moons ago and in their defence they were arguably the first newby friendly distro targeting windows refugees.

I have been in Mandriva for the past couple of hours (not now though). I tested Jemimah's Puppeee script for super easy installation of Puppeee from any distro and hopefully offered her some useful feedback. In the mean time I was playing with Puppeee on my Eee-701SD and Lupu on my son's Lenovo R61e Thinkpad.

I discovered Barry's announcement on his blog and that's when I posted above .. "We've gone official.."

Still in Mandriva I decided to download lupu-500.iso from Ibiblio... (thanks ibiblio for hosting our files) but it was terribly slow, I think Barry mentioned that yesterday. So I checked the Australian mirror Aarnet. It was down, some network issue. . Five minutes later I checked again and it was back up with an apology mentioning the outage. (Thanks Aarnet too). I grabbed the iso in about 10 minutes.. ..then went to burn it .. still in Mandriva, but, no burning app!!! . (Um, nearly a 700 meg iso with no burner??? I remember Mandrake-9 had everything! It was on a mag cover CD, I had no chance to download 700 meg on dialup at the time! Ziggy, give them pburn please, It will make for more Puppy converts ) . Well I opened the software installer and installed k3b, the KDE burner app, hmm.., much like Pburn but about 10 times the size (with dependencies). I burnt my pristine Lucid Puppy 5 CD and am now here typing this rant.
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RE: Apt-get and Synaptic. I think it would be best to concentrate on getting Apt-get working and usable from the terminal, and after some experience with that, then get Synaptic working. Apt-get is easy to use, Synaptic is just a luxury.

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