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The nature of the NT is to showcase the top Men and Women in our sport. So Masters isn't apart of that equation. Is this that big of a deal? You now have less money going toward the PDGA and more going toward your field.

if it was about the money this old dog wouldn't still be chasing plastic. same goes for a lot of mpm and mpg players I'm guessing. apparently no one else cares so it must not be even a miniscule deal. just asking why. if you don't have the answer feel free not to be offended or post.

The nature of the NT is to showcase the top Men and Women in our sport. So Masters isn't apart of that equation. Is this that big of a deal? You now have less money going toward the PDGA and more going toward your field.

if it was about the money this old dog wouldn't still be chasing plastic. same goes for a lot of mpm and mpg players I'm guessing. appardently no one else cares so it must not be even a miniscule deal. just asking why. if you don't have the answer feel free not to be offended or post.

ok I get it. kcwo and vibram are the showcase events. and thanks for the clarification about top players. hope hemme, convers, arthur, arturo, et al get a clue soon.you want something to grow be careful how much you prune it back

The NT is to showcase the Pro Men and Women, as such the NT side of the event is only open to competitors playing in the MPO and FPO divisions.

All other divisions are in the A-Tier from the professional and advanced pools wich will be switching locations.

The NT side will be limited to 72 and the other fields as well unless there is enough demand.

It has been this way for some time in KC and many other NT's. As for the Master's Cup event being an NT the pro side is and the Am side is a different weekend. Only one course is used for the event, all tee times.....

The reasoning for this to keep the pools along these lines is because it keeps the pools playing the same field during the same conditions. So you would want to eliminate the women and put in age protected pro's instead? Not a way to showcase the top players.

Speed of play is an issue and as a TD I have more than once informed groups that they need to speed up accordingly (CD can attest to this during Worlds at BV I did so, and he proceeded to miss the putt, I felt bad.....but it was a long back up). You cannot have the desire to play like an open player yet not play in the open field. You have a decision to make, and the decision lies within yourself to make that call. Just as last year with Phil Arthur not getting the USDGC spot because the "A" tier isn't a qualifier, only the NT is. These are decisions that you as a player can only make.

The logic is that we want to keep the divisions as closely aligned as we can, so the MPM and MM1 (pro and advanced Masters) will be playing the same courses, where the MA1 (Adv Men) will probably be playing their own field based on size.

The 3 pools will be this way to help keep the grouping alike, if you don't like the speed of play with your peers, let them know.....

As for the C-Tier, the third one day event is for Non-PDGA members the chance to play on courses used for the Wide Open and not being "forced" to join the PDGA, but pay the daily fee. It is really for Intermediate/Jr/Rec players..... This should enable locals or guests traveling a chance to play here in KC and enjoy the event albeit for one day, and still participate accordingly.

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Any ideas on when and what divisions will play what courses yet? Just trying to decide if I want to pay the extra cash to play Adv Masters or take it easy and play Int and spend my extra time just hanging out watching the Open divisions.

Host hotel information, please direct people to this, we really want to use the hotel well this year! The price is about as discounted as I could get. Rosie is the furthest away, as it is about 20 min, all the rest are less than 15 to the courses.

"As for the C-Tier, the third one day event is for Non-PDGA members the chance to play on courses used for the Wide Open and not being "forced" to join the PDGA, but pay the daily fee. It is really for Intermediate/Jr/Rec players..... This should enable locals or guests traveling a chance to play here in KC and enjoy the event albeit for one day, and still participate accordingly."

I would like to voice the opinion of myself and some of the newer players. To clarify, novice, rec, and intermediate will only be playing two rounds/one day this year? If so thats kind of a bummer. Im a newer player and have only played four tournies. My first being the wide open last year. In retrospect the allure and the fond memories are from experiencing the 'big tournement feel'. This being the events leading up and during rounds, the amount of people, pros present, AND most importantly the chance to play a tourny in excess of two rounds/one day. Two rounds/one day drastically takes away from the appeal and unique format that comprise a big tourny. How would the pros/advanced etc players feel if the kcwo was suddenly changed to a two round/one day event? Is this really being done due to speed of play? I played novice last year and honestly dont recall anyone waiting on us to finish holes to tee off. If i remember correctly novice, rec and intermediate were grouped together and played separate courses on separate days/times than everyone else..... I was really looking forward to playing in the wide open this year untill i saw some of the posts regarding the revised format. Its been condensed into a 'regular' tournament for us newer/less skilled players to accomidate the better players and perhaps make arranging a tournament easier..... I personally dont have the resources to travel hours to play in another big event to replicate the feeling of a big tourny. correct me if im wrong but we try to introduce as many people to our sport and give them incentive to stay with the sport to watch it grow. this change in format only makes us/them feel slighted.

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