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Help me! Tracert assistance.

Hello fellow members of antionline.com I need some help with an issue. I was at my cousins house today and we were checking some stuff out on his notebook. I went to www.ipchicken.com to obtain his WAN IP address. I went home and I was doing 'basic' stuff with the IP address. My question is my county's courthouse monitoring my cousins traffic? Reason I ask check out the results.

Do you think county court is monitoring/traffic on my cousins system? He was previously in trouble with the law before and is still on felony probation, but is soon to be free and clear. What is your guys/gals take on this? All help is greatly appreciated.

Well unless you provide the full trace it is rather hard to say what those hops actually are. I highly doubt comcast is routing his traffic to the county court, because if he was being monitored it wouldnt be so obvious. In addition most county courts don't have the necessary gear and/or knowledge to monitor anybodys connection.

Have you tried to trace route to an addy like 4.2.2.2 from his computer? Oh and the most important question, did his arrest stem from a computer crime?

In some ways, I wish bytewrangler had never posted the Kevin Poulsen article here on finding those who are watching you by using tracert...

Before I get into reasons, let me tell you that a traceroute with hops in the middle editted is completely useless... I can't tell you what it is if you hide the address from me... without those no one would be able to tell you anything from that... I can explain to you what the addresses are if you give them to me...but I can also tell you without seeing them that no one is snooping on the connection...

FACT
The internet is a large rambling cloud... There is no guarentee of the route that traffic will take... It could very from day to day, from tracert to tracert or from packet to packet... The majority of routing protocols make decisions a lot like electricity does... they take the path of least resistance. Sure there could be static routes in place and their are routing protocols that just plain suck...but for the most part... traffic on the internet varies...

FACT
There are many simpler and easier ways to watch someones actions on the internet, especially if you have access to the backbone and they don't require rerouting traffic... You could do it and hide the fact that you were doing it.

FACT
Finding eavesdroppers by tracert came from Kevin Poulsen... He's a nobody... His IT fame is comparible to the other Kevin.... Poulsen and Mitnick are nothing but washed up losers.. SecurityFocus and then Wired grabbed Poulsen because his name is associated with the media...because he's infamous... It's like getting OJ Simpson to cover the forensics of murder investigations... or Karla Homolka to talk about why Sex Predators are dangerous... Poulsen is a media grab with no real IT intelligence.

So unless you want to give me the "county courthouse" hostname and why you think it's the county courthouse...you'll have to take my word that your theory is only good enough for the trash..

There's too others that resolve to the same thing... you've got nothing to worry about..

Take a look at mine... you'll notice

Etob and bloor are two prefixes near the start...

Etob = Etobicoke
Bloor = Bloor St

I don't live in Etobicoke and I definately don't live on Bloor St.... but I don't get all concerned....

I realize that even though I'm in Toronto... the closest hop for me would be Etobicoke (essentially it is Toronto).... and Bloor St. is a fairly close major street (15 minutes by bus)... so my local loop makes its way to a router in Etobicoke... which works it's way up to somewhere Bloor..

A Quick search of google will confirm this

333 Bloor Street East
Toronto, Ontario
M4W 1G9
Fax: (416) 935-4875

The address for Rogers Cable (my provider).... So most likely I go to the closest "switching station" (Etobicoke) and then travel to the hub for the area... which is at their headquarters...

I wouldn't be too concerned about it.

Peace,
HT

IT Blog: .:Computer Defense:.PnCHd (Pronounced Pinched): Acronym - Point 'n Click Hacked. As in: "That website was pinched" or "The skiddie pinched my computer because I forgot to patch".

After all, it must be about 16 years since the CANBRIT Agency started monitoring ALL Americans and reasonable facsimilies? (assuming that there is such a thing )

On a slightly more serious note (I have just spent 2 hours with an id10t, and even the fees don't make that feel any better) could this not just be a linguistics thing?

Like "court" is the same as "drive" or "avenue" or "square" or "road" or "park" or "street"

Like it is a partial address indicator

Anyways, have you any suggestions regarding that partial time envelope blackout............. I honestly cannot get my satellite to go any faster

If you cannot do someone any good: don't do them any harm....
As long as you did this to one of these, the least of my little ones............you did it unto Me.
What profiteth a man if he gains the entire World at the expense of his immortal soul?

Comcast could well have a network node in the courthouse, something akin to a radio station having an antenna on their roof.

If the authorities are watching your cousin, the first place they'll start is his isp. Most of the important stuff we do on the net is logged. And a lot of the unimportant too. And it's the isp that'll match his name to an ip addy.