A recently-added FB friend (a guy I knew in high school) keeps posting about "the Jills" and it took me a while to realize he was talking about the Buffalo Bills and thinks it's funny to refer to them as the Jills because they (apparently)* play badly. Hahaha... let's insult our local team by calling them by the name of their cheerleading squad. Ha ha ha... so funny.

*I say "apparently" because I don't give two shiitakes about football and have no idea which teams suck.

(Add this to his post about how sorry he is that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was caught because now the American taxpayer was going to have to pay for his defence, and how he likes Europe "except for the politics for the most part", and I think he's heading for either a hiding or a defriending pretty darned soon.)

What's wrong with that? I found tons not to like about European politics.

A recently-added FB friend (a guy I knew in high school) keeps posting about "the Jills" and it took me a while to realize he was talking about the Buffalo Bills and thinks it's funny to refer to them as the Jills because they (apparently)* play badly. Hahaha... let's insult our local team by calling them by the name of their cheerleading squad. Ha ha ha... so funny.

*I say "apparently" because I don't give two shiitakes about football and have no idea which teams suck.

(Add this to his post about how sorry he is that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was caught because now the American taxpayer was going to have to pay for his defence, and how he likes Europe "except for the politics for the most part", and I think he's heading for either a hiding or a defriending pretty darned soon.)

What's wrong with that? I found tons not to like about European politics.

I got the sense he meant it in the "all them Yurpeans are socialists and communists" kind of way.

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What's wrong with that? I found tons not to like about European politics.

Because Europe is a country?

Lard knows that we've had enough of Luxembourg.

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(but honestly, inferring that 50 different countries are the same, politically or otherwise, is just bloody ridiculous)

Of course, but they have plenty of things in common, and there are cultural influences you can look at from an American perspective (like lepelaar's friend) and see as unique. Though yes, countries are like unhappy families. ;)

When my "friend" (scare quotes because I haven't actually spoken to him in about 30 years) posted that, I really don't think he meant that he disliked European politics in the sense of being anti-EU. It was in the context of riffing with a friend of his who actually called Obama "O-bummer". I think the subtelties of the sovereignety of various EU nations and the influence of the European parliament were perhaps lost on him.

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(but honestly, inferring that 50 different countries are the same, politically or otherwise, is just bloody ridiculous)

Of course, but they have plenty of things in common, and there are cultural influences you can look at from an American perspective (like lepelaar's friend) and see as unique. Though yes, countries are like unhappy families. ;)

No, but, I don't get how you think so many different countries with different cultures have so much in common? We really do not share the same politics, or anything, for that matter.

And I think quoting an acknowledged anti-EU Dutch guy doesn't back up.... anything? Much? It's like if I quoted Nigel Farage as an authority on something other than his own ego.

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This is still the feminism thread, right?

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A co-worker of mine recently got breast implants. She had "mosquito bites" before and was never happy with them. It makes me sad that she had to do that to feel good about her body, but the feminism-challenging part is that I kind of feel like I should be more supportive that she was able to make a change that she wanted (including paying for the $10K surgery herself) and resulted in better body image, but I secretly think that everything is wrong with her decision.

Yeah, I have real problems with the idea that a woman or women are somehow perceived as anti-feminist because of a choice they make with/on/about their own bodies.

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I have been wrestling with this piece by Kate Harding, which while about the choice to keep or change one's name after getting married, raises the question about which choices come from such a patriarchal context that they really can't be a feminist choice (which doesn't make the person making the choice any less of a feminist). I wonder if certain modifications to one's body are so much part of the social pressure on women to look a certain way that it isn't actually possible to make such a choice completely free of such context.

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feminism is not, in fact, all about choosing your choice. It is mostly about recognizing when things are forked up for women at the societal level, and talking about that, and trying to change it. So sometimes, even when a decision is right for you, you still need to recognize that you made that decision within a social context that overwhelmingly supports your choice, and punishes women who make a different one.

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So acting as though any of us can stand outside of that deeply sexist context and make a free, individual choice to take a man’s name is plainly forking ridiculous.