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A Journey Into – and Then Out of Homosexuality

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Those struggling with same-sex attraction or hoping to walk away from a homosexual lifestyle may find some encouragement from Liz Flaherty and Elizabeth Woning, who both once lived a lesbian lifestyle.

While leading their own organizations to help individuals transition out of homosexuality, Flaherty and Woning are also a part of a growing movement called CHANGED – a supportive and loving community of those who once identified as LGBTQ+.

In today’s episode, we sit down with Flaherty and Woning to hear their stories and discuss some of the current legislation being advocated for that could have detrimental effects on organization that offer counseling services for those struggling with homosexuality.

Thank you for an in-depth interview and discussion of same sex attraction from the perspective of two women that have lived it but then chose to reject it. Letting them do most of the talking is an interview skill that many podcast hosts here on Ricochet have yet to learn, but the interviewer in this podcast was excellent.

In the run-up to the Obergefell decision, the narrative was that sexual attraction is an unchanging, immutable trait, i.e. that people are born that way. Now in the rapid expansion of the transgender movement, the new narrative is that one can change sex, gender, gender expression, and sexual attraction as often as one desires. Exhibit A is this excerpt from a recent article called “9 Dating Faux Pas You Don’t Know You’re Making” on the dating app Tinder’s blog/dating advice website:

“7. Assuming someone’s sexual orientation

Sexuality is fluid, so just because someone is dating someone of a certain gender doesn’t mean they’re only or always attracted to that gender.”

So a person can decide to no longer be attracted to a certain gender, when perhaps very recently they were. And yet, both the Congressional and Senate bills discussed in this podcast seek to outlaw any organization that supports and counsels people who have decided they do not want to engage in same sex attracted behavior and choose to seek support from others in that choice. Is it a choice or an immutable characteristic? It seems the prevailing zeitgeist wants to have it both ways, depending on the situation. Yes, you can change to whom you’re sexually attracted when it’s your personal dating choices, but no you can’t change it when same sex attraction is viewed as sinful behavior that one is attempting to cease engaging in.

Thank you for an in-depth interview and discussion of same sex attraction from the perspective of two women that have lived it but then chose to reject it. Letting them do most of the talking is an interview skill that many podcast hosts here on Ricochet have yet to learn, but the interviewer in this podcast was excellent.

In the run-up to the Obergefell decision, the narrative was that sexual attraction is an unchanging, immutable trait, i.e. that people are born that way. Now in the rapid expansion of the transgender movement, the new narrative is that one can change sex, gender, gender expression, and sexual attraction as often as one desires. Exhibit A is this excerpt from a recent article called “9 Dating Faux Pas You Don’t Know You’re Making” on the dating app Tinder’s blog/dating advice website:

“7. Assuming someone’s sexual orientation

Sexuality is fluid, so just because someone is dating someone of a certain gender doesn’t mean they’re only or always attracted to that gender.”

So a person can decide to no longer be attracted to a certain gender, when perhaps very recently they were. And yet, both the Congressional and Senate bills discussed in this podcast seek to outlaw any organization that supports and counsels people who have decided they do not want to engage in same sex attracted behavior and choose to seek support from others in that choice. Is it a choice or an immutable characteristic? It seems the prevailing zeitgeist wants to have it both ways, depending on the situation. Yes, you can change to whom you’re sexually attracted when it’s your personal dating choices, but no you can’t change it when same sex attraction is viewed as sinful behavior that one is attempting to cease engaging in.

Yea, but one of those views is true for the vast majority of people and the other is BS for the vast majority of people.