Okay, guys can you please compare Simpson Manchurian vs. Shavemac 2-Band? Is one softer? Does one have more backbone? How about if you throw Shavemac Regular Silvertip (3-band) in the mix...how does it compare to the other two? Let the fight begin. Thanks!

I have the TSN 2014 M6 LE Simpson with the Manchurian knot and a B&B 2014 LE Rudy Vey with the Shavemac Finest 2-band knot. For me, it is like comparing apples to oranges. Both are wonderful brushes with different characteristics due the nature of the hair. I prefer to use the Shavemac with creams in a scuttle and prefer to face lather with the Manchurian using hard or soft soaps. For softness - the Shavemac. For backbone - the Manchurian.

It's not really a fight, because they're different types of hair. The Manchurian will have more backbone and scrub, while the Shavemac will be softer. However, I find that Manchurian and Shavemac D01 2-band are similar.

(11-15-2017, 09:59 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: It's not really a fight, because they're different types of hair. The Manchurian will have more backbone and scrub, while the Shavemac will be softer. However, I find that Manchurian and Shavemac D01 2-band are similar.

I have a Simpson QE II Jubilee with a Manchurian knot. I once had the Simpson TSN M6 LE with a Manchurian knot. They are very different brushes even though the knots are the same size and shape with supposedly the same hair. I find the Jubilee has soft tips, good flow through and medium backbone. On the other hand, whilst the M6 has soft tips, the significant glue bump changes the whole face-feel of the brush; it has too much backbone for me and is scrubby. The Jubilee is one of my favourite brushes; I've sold the M 6. I also have a Shavemac 3-band silvertip and a 2-band silvertip. The 3-band is luscious: soft without being floppy; it caresses my face. The 2-band is a stouter knot. It has soft tips but more back bone than the 3-band without being brick-like. I'd say that the Jubilee Manchurian is closer in face-feel to the Shavemac 3-band than it is to the 2-band. All three are lovely brushes, but I do reach for the Jubilee and 3-band before the 2-band.

Ricardo has it right. I enjoy the Shavemac 2-band more than either the Manchurian or D01 2-Band. However, when you get a Manchurian or D01 2-band brush with one of the softer tipped lots then they are quite enjoyable as well.

(11-15-2017, 09:59 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: It's not really a fight, because they're different types of hair. The Manchurian will have more backbone and scrub, while the Shavemac will be softer. However, I find that Manchurian and Shavemac D01 2-band are similar.

(11-15-2017, 09:59 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: It's not really a fight, because they're different types of hair. The Manchurian will have more backbone and scrub, while the Shavemac will be softer. However, I find that Manchurian and Shavemac D01 2-band are similar.

I have a Manchurian CH3 from 2014 that is closer to Simpson’s 2 band super...meaning very soft tips, no scritch at all. More modern Manchurians tend to be a bit “coarser” and I agree with Ricardo...closer to Shavemac D-01

(11-15-2017, 09:59 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: It's not really a fight, because they're different types of hair. The Manchurian will have more backbone and scrub, while the Shavemac will be softer. However, I find that Manchurian and Shavemac D01 2-band are similar.

Where does Elite Razor's Manchurian fit in this 2 band realm?

Good question. Elite Manchurian White is not similar to Simpson Manchurian, despite the name. It is similar in feel to Shavemac silvertip 2-band, but the knots I have experienced have been more dense than Shavemac.

(11-15-2017, 09:59 AM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: It's not really a fight, because they're different types of hair. The Manchurian will have more backbone and scrub, while the Shavemac will be softer. However, I find that Manchurian and Shavemac D01 2-band are similar.

(I have, and enjoy both Simpsons Manchurian and Shavemac 2band)

I agree with this completely. I have a Shavemac 2 Band Unique and DO1 as well as a Simpson Manchurian. The Manchurian is similar to the DO1 but the hairs in the unique knot are very different, less backbone and scrub but an absolute pleasure to use.

(11-15-2017, 06:44 PM)TheLegalRazor Wrote: Good question. Elite Manchurian White is not similar to Simpson Manchurian, despite the name. It is similar in feel to Shavemac silvertip 2-band, but the knots I have experienced have been more dense than Shavemac.

Ricardo:

While researching knots, yet again, ran across this and realized I neglected to say thank you for the response. I know the thread is rather old, but still valuable.

The Simpson Manchurian is a fan knot with soft tips and medium firm backbone. The Shavemac can be either fan, bulb or flat top; the knot is either the regular two band or their D01 2 band.

I would recommend a Simpson Manchurian (default fan knot), and a Shavemac regular two band bulb (the D01 in a bulb is too firm) with a 26mm knot and 52mm loft. For 3 band silvertip, I would recommend a Simpson 3 band super.

(02-07-2018, 01:52 AM)mixershave Wrote: The Simpson Manchurian is a fan knot with soft tips and medium firm backbone. The Shavemac can be either fan, bulb or flat top; the knot is either the regular two band or their D01 2 band.

I would recommend a Simpson Manchurian (default fan knot), and a Shavemac regular two band bulb (the D01 in a bulb is too firm) with a 26mm knot and 52mm loft. For 3 band silvertip, I would recommend a Simpson 3 band super.

I happen to like the firmness of a D01 2 band shavemac that nothing else can match. They take longer to break in, but you will be pleasantly rewarded with a firm backbone that will not break down and tips that are soft but giving a very nice massage. My 2nd choice is the Simpson Manchurian. I have used just about everything out there and this is my preference--but I continue to experiment...

(02-07-2018, 01:52 AM)mixershave Wrote: Shavemac regular two band bulb (the D01 in a bulb is too firm) with a 26mm knot and 52mm loft.

Hi, is this the same configuration of a brush I took from you long time back (ATG LE - Emerald) . That brush is my absolute favorite but I dont remember the specs anymore. I am now drooling over a 28mm shavemac for sometime now and was not sure if it would perform to my liking.

I recently bought a Simpson Manchurian 28mm in Ruby and would want to compare it with an equivalent of Shavemac side by side. D01 or regular 2 band bulb is the query?

(02-07-2018, 01:52 AM)mixershave Wrote: Shavemac regular two band bulb (the D01 in a bulb is too firm) with a 26mm knot and 52mm loft.

Hi, is this the same configuration of a brush I took from you long time back (ATG LE - Emerald) . That brush is my absolute favorite but I dont remember the specs anymore. I am now drooling over a 28mm shavemac for sometime now and was not sure if it would perform to my liking.

I recently bought a Simpson Manchurian 28mm in Ruby and would want to compare it with an equivalent of Shavemac side by side. D01 or regular 2 band bulb is the query?

A Simpsons Manchurian would be more similar to a d01 2-band, vs. a standard 2-band - particularly from a density perspective.