So you think its ok to use an entire theme concept with not a single mention to the person who created the idea? It looks like a port! Period! Giving credit to the person who thought of the idea is out of control? Your way off on this one brudda.

Im not tryin to get caught up in a debate though. To each their own

(He retreats back to Jaku Bliss)

No worries bud. I wasn't going to debate you. Everyone has their opinion and is fully entitled to it and I've always valued yours. Also, I ALWAYS give credit where it's due. If I've gotten help on an icon/mod/widget/whatever, I always thank whoever helped me or allowed me to use bits of their work. Now I always ask if it's cool to use first. Even if it's something that has been posted for free.

I think if anything I need to amend my post. I think I should have added that I am a big proponent of "innocent until proven guilty". I see a lot of people getting blasted without being asked where they got their work/inspiration from. As an example, I did an iPod shuffle music icon for elite6. I had never seen an icon like it so, I found an Apple picture posted online of the shuffle "family" and got to work. I did EVERYTHING in the icon(s) from scratch. When I finished the icon I was very happy with it and thought it looked almost exactly like a real shuffle. Of course, now I have seen several themes with a shuffle icon and I'm sure that people will automatically assume that I "stole" the icon from another theme. Now, I realize this is just one icon and not an entire set, but I just think until Fif7y has a chance to defend himself, maybe people should back off a little. For all we know, he and the creator of Zen have talked and Fif7y got permission. Maybe he didn't. Who knows.

This hole thing has gotten blown out of proportion. Who doesn't know how hard making a theme is? Or how talented fif7y is? Or that he hand made everything? Thats a given. If people didn't know that, they wouldn't spend 4 bucks on his themes or drool when he announces a project. This is real simple. Add credits to your first post to the guy who you drew your inspiration from. Problem solved!!!! Thats the standard we are all held to when we do similar stuff. Contrary to popular belief, fif7y is not a super hero. He's just a man, and should be held to the same standard we all are.

This hole thing has gotten blown out of proportion. Who doesn't know how hard making a theme is? Or how talented fif7y is? Or that he hand made everything? Thats a given. If people didn't know that, they wouldn't spend 4 bucks on his themes or drool when he announces a project. This is real simple. Add credits to your first post to the guy who you drew your inspiration from. Problem solved!!!! Thats the standard we are all held to when we do similar stuff. Contrary to popular belief, fif7y is not a super hero. He's just a man, and should be held to the same standard we all are.

Maybe we just need to leave it until Fif7y says his bit... other members of the G team have spoken up and said they knew nothing of Zen... Lets see what he has to say then start. i think everyone has made their point and the thread was moving along nicely

Maybe we just need to leave it until Fif7y says his bit... other members of the G team have spoken up and said they knew nothing of Zen... Lets see what he has to say then start. i think everyone has made their point and the thread was moving along nicely

Ok brother! Ill retreat! I was actually trying to defuse it but maybe I didn't. Lol