Rolling Stones: No Security update

Bad news. After initially confirming coloured vinyl for The Rolling StonesNo Security. San Jose ’99 ‘From The Vault’ release, Eagle Rock have now told SDE that the coloured vinyl will only be available in America.
This is of course extremely disappointing for fans this side of the Atlantic and the Amazon UK listing continues to mislead with a coloured vinyl image. At least the SD blu-ray in the UK is now no longer showing incorrectly displaying a 2CD+blu-ray packshot and promising a three-disc set.

I’m sorry that the incorrect information was passed on to SDE readers but as I say, this was checked originally with Eagle Rock – we weren’t just relying on the image on the listing.

This does open up a discussion about how record labels continue to treat territories differently, despite us living in a so-called global economy. Why are US Rolling Stones fans getting ‘better’ formats (coloured vinyl, 2CD+blu-ray combo-packs) to those in the UK?

Well, if you look back at RSD 2018 (or any one before that), there were items that were released in the UK / Europe that weren’t released in the U.S. – and what that meant was either a) you were going to pay out the nose via Ebay or Discogs for the item or b) you might find an online retailer who could sell the item (usually after RSD). But yeah, it’s a shame that these territorial things happen.

Bogdan, thanks for pointing this out. Earlier this week I also saw the Amazon U.S. image and item description for this RS release as ‘Triple Colored Vinyl’. Now the image is gone and the heading states simply ‘Triple Vinyl’, but the price remains at $54 USD, which I don’t think is worth it for standard black vinyl, unless it’s audiophile (180 gram, half-speed mastered, etc). Even the Blu-ray shows Region B/2, which is not playable in North America. This is enough disappointment for me to pass on ‘San Jose ’99’.

Yep, common problem from time to time. Happens on eBay etc as well. You buy an item, and when you get it, it’s not as described. The ‘stock photo’ is totally different from what you get through the post. I bought a soundtrack CD from a well known eBay seller called WorldofBooks, bunch of cowboys the lot of them. When I messaged them saying that they had sent the wrong item from what was listed, get this……… they asked me to ‘politely not buy from them again in future’!!! Suffice to say, I did just that. Got a partial refund for my efforts/troubles though on that one and only purchase I made from them.

Just to defend worldofbooks – that is shocking but I use them all the time on Amazon UK and they’ve been brilliant. Of course that doesn’t help you in your case, but for the sake of balance, wanted to speak up. They’re my first port of call for second hand books.

Agreed, although the label are probably equally culpable. It’s some online system where they submit images/product details. For that Soft Cell box set Dave Ball’s manager triumphantly decreed that I had used the wrong cover image… but it was only the one that THEY had supplied to Amazon. If wrong information isn’t supplied in the first place, then it doesn’t snowball into bigger confusion.

On the other hand… It’s a pretty neat excuse to fly over, enjoy the sites, meet the people, feel the earth and pick up a nice shiny copy of the colorful vinyl edition. ‘Ticket To Ride’ starts in the background…

I think that’s their default listing for anything from other territories until they know for certain that the release is all-region. They’ve done the same thing with other releases such as A-Ha’s Summer Solstice disc. which kept me from buying it for months until I was certain I’d be able to play t without having to get a region free blu ray player.

04:51 AM BST eric slangen: Yes you could. I ordered a pre-order of the vinyl (3) box of the forthcoming Rolling Stones set in San Jose. It is advertised as colored vinyl (see pictures) and now rumors are that it’s only black vinyl.
04:52 AM BST Aboobaker: Could you please help me with the link of the item?
04:53 AM BST eric slangen: ORDER # xxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
04:53 AM BST Aboobaker: Thanks for the order number.
04:55 AM BST Aboobaker: In this case please be assured that you will be receiving the same product as shown in the picture of the product page.

Please be assured that you will be receiving the colored vinyl product without any fail.
04:56 AM BST eric slangen: Many thanks, that was very helpfull
04:56 AM BST Aboobaker: It was nice chatting with you!
Have a Nice Day!

I’m still aiming for the three coloured vinyl version from Amazon U.S. It seems illogical and counter-intuitive from a marketing standpoint to have a special edition of a release limited to only one country. I feel the same frustration about special editions that are only available in the U.K. or Europe, but not U.S. or Canada. Is Eagle Rock unaware that there are fans of the Rolling Stones around the world (especially England, I would imagine) who would vie for the most spectacular item? This seems very unfair.

And the reason they do it (in case anyone doesn’t know) is to try to ensure that Japanese buyers stick to buying domestic product rather than imports – which in fact ends up making the Japanese versions more interesting to non-domestic purchasers…

Coloured discs is one thing, some will be peeved no doubt but I’d have thought the Japan set with two extra songs – Moonlight Mile and Gimme Shelter – is more of a concern.

I am not enough of a fan to buy any of these sets but the missing music brings to mind the supposed SDE of REM’s Green which missed 4 tracks from the Greenboro gig only for them to surface on a RSD issue some time later. Why record companies feel fans want this sort of shenanigans is beyond me.

Well the question is then – I have a an Amazon UK order in with the picture showing coloured (“colored”) vinyl. What will amazon UK send? Will they have to honour the picture or will they just sneakily change the ad and hope we won’t notice?

That’s easy… they’ll send you the black version. I suggest everyone takes a screenshot, because if you maintain your order, you’ll likely get some decent compensation when they don’t deliver what is shown.