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Musician's Song

from chapter 133
its the verses for the music score that are sung in Allen's Head1...and then the boy...2 ...fell deep asleep...3 ...the gasping flames within the ashes/one by one...4 ...rise up and expand into that beloved face...5 suspended from the earth... thousands of dreams6 on the night when those silver eyes trembled/you were born/ shining brightly7 hundreds of millions of months/ and years/ no matter how many prayers are returned to the earth...8 I shall continue to pray
line 1 and 2: in recent chapters we know the heart is hiding and the person with it might not know

line 3 and 4 you notice a cross shaped flame possibly refering to Allen being the heart

line 6: probably refering to the Earl silver eyes (edit)

line 7: something to do with akuma
no matter how many " prayers" of their loved ones souls to come back to earth

Re: Musician's Song

Hmmm... Hearing the lyrics again made me think of something: Could it be implying that Allen is/will be a Noah, after all?

Back in chapter 86, the Earl mentions that the 14th issue happened before Jasdevi was "born". Yet we know from later chapters (102?) that Jasdevi is about the same age as Allen and Lenalee. Since the 14th stuff obviously happened during Allen's lifetime, and Allen is probably the lower limit of Jasdevi's possible age, it doesn't make sense that the Earl is referring to their years of life. (The song also mentions "silver eyes"; a newborn baby, though, has blue eyes. If it refers to Allen, he can't be that little.) It's possible that by "birth", the Earl means their awakening as a Noah.

Again, newborn babies don't have their naturally coloured eyes - they have blue ones. So unless Hoshino forgot this, Allen can't really have been "born" in the sense that we think of, either - he wouldn't have silver eyes. Either the song is referring to someone else's eyes (seems weird, since even if that theory that the 14th is Allen's father is true, why would the 14th refer to himself as having "those silver eyes"?), or Allen wasn't a baby. And what other definition of "birth" is there that we know is used by Noah, and wouldn't require the person to be a baby?

That phrase about the "gasping flames within the ashes... rise up and expand into that beloved face" somehow is reminiscent of the Noah-forehead-crosses, too. Maybe it's just me, but that's the mental image I get when reading that passage. I suppose it could just mean his face is being illuminated, buuuuut...

Re: Musician's Song

might be about Allen death from tyki (the boy = Allen ,deep asleep=this death moment and the dream he had) well he fell in one deep sleep and then he woke up

next lines :
3 ...the gasping flames within the ashes/one by one...
4 ...rise up and expand into that beloved face...

They might mean allen waking up from the dream (the death moment), well "ash" is something that died (burned and cant turn back how it was) but the flames can mean inocence that brought Allen back to life (well his inocence even turned into ash so we can see it like that too ^^) "expanded into that beloved face" well they say that Allen is loved by God (even Mana loved him and he could be the 14th noah)

Well Allens inocence turned into ash/dust but even in that form it had power and will to live (gasping flames within the ashes) and with Allens strong feelings inocence turned back and changed shape so it could exist with Allen (the 4line) ^^

next line:
5 suspended from the earth... thousands of dreams

It could say about the ark where he can wish what he dreamt off like sayving his friends was his biggest dream ^^ well he was in the ark that was above earth so "it was suspended " ^^

next line:
6 on the night when those silver eyes trembled/you were born/ shining brightly

It could mean Allen turning to Noah well like we watched anime the shadow itself had white maybe even silver eyes so it could represent "those silver eyes" so when those eyes will show the Noah will be born and with this amazing transformation he could shine among everyone (something new never seen before ,like the level4 akuma that was first seen in history)

the last lines:
7 hundreds of millions of months/ and years/ no matter how many prayers are returned to the earth...
8 I shall continue to pray

could simply mean that even if many people,friends will die or how many ackuma souls will came back to earth Allen should go foward not stoping and keep up fighting

Well there are 2lines about God giving him joined hands and a kiss - maybe we can say that the Noah (maybe some person) ask god to give this child (Allen) love and blessing maybe even protection

Im only speculating but it could move this way like I presented ^^ what do you thing about it ^^

Last edited by Zibi234; May 12, 2008 at 02:12 AM.
Reason: Automerged Doublepost

Re: Musician's Song

Or it could be about the past. Allen's real birthday is unknown which makes me wonder.

"Then the boy fell deep asleep" as in Allen's true nature was rendered dormant.
The next lines could be about the truth behind the Flood.

"Suspended from earth.." I agree this is definitely the Ark

"on the night when those silver eyes trembled/you were born/ shining brightly" This could be about Allen's true birth

"7 hundreds of millions of months/ and years/ no matter how many prayers are returned to the earth...
"
8 I shall continue to pray" This i'm guessing is just a description of the time that has passed since then and how they wait for him to awaken again

Re: Musician's Song

Wow.. I didn't really read much into the song lyrics... But I was also thinking that it was written for Allen because of the "silver eyes"..

Just a random guess. Maybe Allen was reborn already? You know, that time Tyki Mikk made a hole in his heart, and Allen was supposed to be dead but he lived because of his innocence so that's kind of like being reborn and he did become stronger..

And I agree with Advoco that the song is probably written by Mana for Allen...

Sorry, I'm too lazy to edit here.

Quote:

(I was talking about Lenalee and Allen's dreams)I think they're on the opposite side of each other... And Lenalee can't see Allen but Allen can see her...

And yeah... The song could be a prophesy and also a hint of Allen's past??

Re: DGM 182 Discussion / 183 Prediction Thread

And so, the boy fell into a deep sleep.
The struggling flames lay in the ashes.
One by one, rising up and swell into that lovely face.
Thousands of dreams float above the earth.Those dreams.
On the night when silver eyes trembled,
you were born in a sparkling light.
Though hunderds of milions of months and years will pass,
no matter how many prayers return to the Earth,
I will continue to pray.
Please deliver this love.
Let us join our hands and kiss.

The text acording to another translation.
now i dunno wich translation you take but its *about* the death and rebirth of the 14th but its not sang by the 14th himself.

(we are getting very much off topic tho ) haha

p.s.

the revealing of the 14th in the last chapter might have triggerd all this speculation stuff

Re: DGM 182 Discussion / 183 Prediction Thread

Originally Posted by ca12nag3

And so, the boy fell into a deep sleep.
The struggling flames lay in the ashes.
One by one, rising up and swell into that lovely face.
Thousands of dreams float above the earth.Those dreams.
On the night when silver eyes trembled,
you were born in a sparkling light.
Though hunderds of milions of months and years will pass,
no matter how many prayers return to the Earth,
I will continue to pray.
Please deliver this love.
Let us join our hands and kiss.

The text acording to another translation.
now i dunno wich translation you take but its *about* the death and rebirth of the 14th but its not sang by the 14th himself.

(we are getting very much off topic tho ) haha

p.s.

the revealing of the 14th in the last chapter might have triggerd all this speculation stuff

Re: Musician's Song

as you are saying Allen's true nature is dormant which could be true because i remember them saying that Allen, before he met Mana, was ruder, but when he met Mana he took on a mask of Mana which might have hidden his true nature.

yes i believe that this song is referring to Allen awakening, but since the 14th most likely wrote it before Allen was born do you think it's more of a prophecy type thing?

English.-
So as the boy fell to sleep.
The fire in the ash engulfs the air. One by one...
what rise and grow large are my beloved profiles.
What trickle down to earth are the thousands of dreams...dreams...
On the night when the silver eyes were trembling what came to born was you, as you shined.
No matter how many times the ever-passing time return the prayers back down to earth...
I will never cease to pray.
Oh please, show this child what love is.
Please give a kiss to his hands you hold.

So as the boy fell to sleep.
The fire in the ash engulfs the air. One by one...
what rise and grow large are my beloved profiles.
What trickle down to earth are the thousands of dreams...dreams...
On the night when the silver eyes were trembling what came to born was you, as you shined.
No matter how many times the ever-passing time return the prayers back down to earth...
I will never cease to pray.
Oh please, show this child what love is.
Please give a kiss to his hands you hold.

I will never cease to pray.
Oh please, show this child what love is.
Please give a kiss to his hands you hold. (Maybe referring to some Allen knows maybe Mana, showing Allen love for the first time)