I guess so; but if the small translation that I happened upon was correct, the scene went something like Soujuurou calling Aoko ‘Aozaki-san’, and Aoko asking him to drop the ‘-san’, so I was wondering how the translation was going to address that without adding any sort of weird title like ‘miss’, which you wouldn’t find highschoolers using to address each other anyway.

People in Japan usually use -san at first just to be polite. Saying to drop it is basically the equivalent of saying “You don’t need to be polite” or maybe even that they consider the other person a friend now. It’s not like the kind of concepts honorifics relate to only exist in Japanese (although there are definitely a lot of other things about Japanese culture that are very hard to translate), so I don’t really understand why people are so stuck up on them. In fact, you should be more worried about Nasu’s writing style not really coming across in our (or any) translation, because stuff like that is way harder to translate than some discussion of honorifics.

Ah, I guess that should’ve been pretty obvious from the get-go, my bad. I guess I was just uncomfortable with the translation having everyone refer to themselves in the Western manner after watching subs that always showed otherwise.

I’m guessing this means that you’re not having the characters address each other with their last names as well?

We pretty much always have them address each other with the same name they normally use, just without the honorific. So it’ll still be him calling her Aozaki. I know the guy who did the other patch switched the names around or something, but we don’t do that since it’s silly and also hard to keep track of.

I didn’t mean it exactly like that. I just mean pretty much any writing style is going to be hard to replicate (and he’s definitely not as hard to translate as Masada). There are so many plain translations of Japanese fiction that people these days are “surprised” when a good one is released and it actually reads well. They think there’s no way it could actually sound that good and it must be a “memelation” or something. Anyway, my point was that translating honorifics is nothing compared to how hard it can be to translate a writer who has a very specific style.

It’s good to see the project is still alive, It’s still one of the Type Moon games I really want to play, that and also the Tsukihime Remake lol. The best I can do is translate manga, so I probably can’t do much to help, but do your best guys!

Just wondering, but looking at the progression of the translation, it seems pretty slow. Considering the guy from beastlair was able to translate chapters 1-5 by himself. Can this project by any chance be picked up by another translation group?

You guys clearly aren’t very interested in working on it anymore… i don’t see why you don’t either give it to bakatsuki or some other group, or even just publish the work you’ve done so far so that other people can finish it for you. it’s been almost 2 years that it’s been fully translated and in editing.

Ironically i actually made this point to you nearly 2 years ago exactly when you were either nearly or already done with translating and moving on to editing.

Like I said before, I’m not particularly invested in the completion of this project, nor do I feel entitled to having it released at all, but it seems like this could be done and out over a year ago if you guys weren’t so secretive and proprietary with this project.

i dunno why it’s a bad idea. to be frank i don’t follow the translation scene at all. maybe you are making a reference to the fact that bakatsuki doesn’t translate visual novels or something? i dont know. i just know they translate non-anime non-manga. either way that completely dodges the point of my comment.

if you are going to either put it on the back burner or make it essentially vaporware i don’t personally understand why you wouldn’t either publish what you have done already or pass it on to a non-bakatsuki group that would be interested in working on it in your stead.

by the way if that’s the worst idea you’ve ever seen, you would be astounded to find out i say insanely stupid things regularly, and some of them are even worse than “give it to bakatsuki”. shocking i know.

baka-tsuki is a wiki anyone can edit, and some of those people use google translate. also, i don’t know why we’d give our translation to someone else. anyone dedicated enough to translate the game would almost certainly want to do their own translation. lastly, a bad/incomplete translation is far worse than no translation, so we’re not going to release it before it’s done.

the whole idea of keeping the “autority” of the project for yourself is to keep a good quality translation, and honoring who spent time into it.

if as you say the “translating” part has already been finished in more than 2 years, all that is left is editing, and i find it very hard to beleive that other translators would screw up the editting, they just need to insert what has been translated directly into the game, i dont know if you should really concern yourself that much, since the translation itself wont be affected at all.

Also, since this was the first translator to announce the project, many who also wished to contribute to it, or even translate themselves either dropped the idea, or are just starting to do it by now (since they arent that likely to expect something from you anymore).

I think you really should take into account the ammount of people involved into the matter, other than just your personal agenda…

Oh, if you are that much of an informed person, why not do give a clear reason not to work with a lot of very competent translators, other than being an arrogant bastard that doesnt even seem to be trying to work in the project anymore.

That being the case, either drop the project, or name a more competent manager to replace you

because there are no competent translators chomping at the bit to work on mahoyo (not for free, anyway)

what you’re imagining isn’t even happening

p.s. i never once worked on this game at any time and i don’t know why people get the idea that i did. VN translations don’t need a “manager.” the first part of my staff credit literally says “useless.” me not being involved would change nothing.