My question is is that enough TRN and also should I start x-mass week 1 also?

Another question is that I am going to be increasing workout intensity and volume, is that going to be neccassary? If so, can anyone post links to workout programs for steroid use.

Here is some info on me:

200 lbs
11 %bf
6'2"
I have done a cycle of M1T and one of Superdrol
I am going to be getting in about 3500 calories in each day.
Creatine protein before workout
Creatine, glutamine, BCAA, pure vitargo after workout
all meals are split up into six meals daily

If you dont want an errection or libido for a couple months then by all means, go for it. Otherwise, Id look into something else. From what Ive read/experienced, PP and SD are much better if you are going to run an oral only cycle. TRN and X-mass can have nasty sides plus the gains wont even be as good as running PP or SD solo.

I disagree with this part somewhat... Some people report excellent gains with X-Mass.

But yeah, your libido is going to suffer on X-Mass + TRN. Both are progesterone-based compounds that can shut you down hard and kill libido. Unless you don't want to have sex during the cycle and into P.C.T., you're better off stacking with test or another androgenic compound.

That odd because I heard that trn is actualy the oppisite. but I still agree with you. The reason I wanted trn is because it should lean me out or keep me from bloating. I know that zol is a good additive but its so weak I hear. As for the xmass ans trn, if the libido isnt a problem to me, will shut in natural test be horrible, I mean, it cant me any worse that pp and superdrol.

To add, I do have PP and I am wondering will the PP and Trn be better overall than Xmass and trn?

TeamSavage, why do you think that PP and TRN will be as good if not better? I hear that the original max lmg is better than the originalphera-max. Thanks for the help, also, do you have any feedback on the training portion of my post?

Remember that the bloat you might experience from X-Mass and PP (a) isn't that bad, and (2) will fall off as soon as the cycle is stopped, leaving only the lean gains. So unless you're preparing for a contest or photo-shoot or something, the bloat doesn't really matter in the long run.

Russian, I just finished a cycle of Trn and XMass. I loved it! I had no sides at all and my strength went thru the roof. As far as the libido issue goes, I didn't have any issues. It was status quo for me so I'm not sure what would happen with you. That was my 3rd ph cycle and I would have to say it was my most enjoyable. I did a SD cycle last spring, I liked it but I didn't feel up to par.

I second the suggestion of a halodrol clone. It seems to be the best out for lean mass/cutting/recomp type cycles. It is pretty strong and damn mild. To be honest, I wouldnt mess with any OTC orals other than PP/SD/Halo With the weaker ones, the gains are not worth being shutdown and having to do a PCT.

its funny but the Mega-TRN actually says that it gives you "porn star libido"

Can't really believe everything the sup companies say... I agree with Matt Hines. Halodrol is also a good choice for cutting/recomp, or Halodrol+TRN. Really you have lots of good options. Just do your research and choose one.

You might want to be prepared to back down to 4mg if you do start getting some of the sides at 6mg that others have reported. But I definately would at least be thinking of moving up to 6mg, unless you're getting great results at 4mg.

Now I got another question for the people who taken it, Is there any beneift of taking TRN about an hour before workout on training days? I know Ph's you do and some no. I was thinking of doing it, but since you say you get lethargy, maybe that wont be such a great idea. That do you think?