I might have said "spit-take stupid," for that matter. When an actor takes a sip of something just as another actor says something funny or surprising or idiotic, then the first one spits it out all over the place, that's a spit take.

The first time I heard Reagan called "the great communicator," I probably actually did a spit take.

Of course Americans like him. He was voted by californian businessmen, so he supported the Californian economy very much.

That's why he is liked.

But what about the protests against the Vietnamwar in the universities? Yes, he called the CIA to undercover it.
And what about the Korean War? Yeah it's an attack on Korea without reasons, and it murdered a lot of guys.

Of course America liked him because he had been very good to his own country._________________If I say "I love you" to someone, then I also have to say "I also love everyone else inside you, I love the whole world because of you, I also love myself inside you." -- Erich Fromm, the Art of Love

I'm an American, and I do NOT like him.
Infact, since he didn't win the popular vote and only the electoral college vote, you should really say that Americans do NOT like him (although it's not a very good idea to make generalizations like that at all)._________________peace-monger

Yeah true, but as the elections prescribes the majority as winner and the minority as loser, you have to make generalisations.

In this forum (www.eslclub.com) there are a lot of nationalists who love Bush, so how nice that people like you also exist in the world. I'm very happy._________________If I say "I love you" to someone, then I also have to say "I also love everyone else inside you, I love the whole world because of you, I also love myself inside you." -- Erich Fromm, the Art of Love

Yeah true, but as the elections prescribes the majority as winner and the minority as loser, you have to make generalisations.

In this forum (www.eslclub.com) there are a lot of nationalists who love Bush, so how nice that people like you also exist in the world. I'm very happy.

Hehe
Yeah, it's very regional. Everyone either hates Bush or loves him, and I'm guessing that site is infested with Bush-lovers.
Not here though
There are plenty of people with my view about Bush, though (since he DID lose the popular vote, and his approval ratings have of course dropped since then), so there's some good left in this world .

The electoral college is just silly, in my opinion. It's a system left over from when America was just getting into swing and the smaller states felt underrepresented. However, there are plenty of Americans in all the states now, so it's really not needed (but now Americans are too stupid to realize that, and we continue to use it for some dumb reason)._________________peace-monger

He seemed to me that he did not do a good job. Last year, he didn't do a good job to help Katrina victiums. And the Iraq war is really messy. I do not know much about his domestic polcies and foregin polices. But the two things I mention it seemed make me do not like him right know.

He seemed to me that he did not do a good job. Last year, he didn't do a good job to help Katrina victiums. And the Iraq war is really messy. I do not know much about his domestic polcies and foregin polices. But the two things I mention it seemed make me do not like him right know.

By the way, the invasion of privacy that he tapped on citizens too.

Yes, we're in agreement on that .
Complete invasion of privacy, and saying that he did it to "help the American people" is ridiculous.
We have a right to know everything our government is doing (especially with such a shady administration!!)_________________peace-monger

Of course Americans like him. He was voted by californian businessmen, so he supported the Californian economy very much.
That's why he is liked. .

Is this the same Admiral from Tsingtao, China?
It takes more than just the votes of businessmen to elect someone. Something about his message had to resonate with millions of hardworking regular employees also.

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And what about the Korean War? Yeah it's an attack on Korea without reasons, and it murdered a lot of guys.

Eh? Reagan wasn't president or even governor during the Korean War.

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Of course America liked him because he had been very good to his own country.

Isn't that the job of any national leader? I hope your leaders work so hard for the interests of you and your countrymen too.

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Last year, he didn't do a good job to help Katrina victims.

No he didn't, but then that's not his job. The primary power to recover from any disaster rests primarily with the local government. One needs only look at the recovery of Mississippi which was hit just as hard by Katrina and compare to the miserably slow recovery of New Orleans administered by Mayor Ray "School Bus" Nagin.

flying_pig319 wrote:

The electoral college is just silly, in my opinion. It's a system left over from when America was just getting into swing and the smaller states felt underrepresented. However, there are plenty of Americans in all the states now, so it's really not needed (but now Americans are too stupid to realize that, and we continue to use it for some dumb reason).

Such chutzpah to think that everyone who doesn't agree with you must be stupid. Did you ever think that the reason we still have it is as valid today as it was back then? If we chose by popular vote, candidates would focus a majority of their time and money on major population centers such as New York, California, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Texas. A winner-take-all electoral college system forces candidates to acknowledge the people and interests of fly-over states that would normally get ignored. Even North Carolina, which if it were to break off the continent and sink into the Atlantic would hardly be missed, suddenly becomes important and noticed every 4 years. So occasionally rarely we get a president elected by an electoral college counting fluke. Big deal. It's not an appointment for life. If he is so terrible, he would've gotten dumped in 4 years (see Carter, Bush 1). The Dems needed to nominate someone who is more than lackluster if they wanted to beat someone who is merely mediocre even if he did get in on a fluke._________________"It is impossible to speak in such a way that you cannot be misunderstood." -- Karl Popper

hi Bob,
no you remembred wrong, I'm from KunMing, YunNan
But the same Admiral, I just had a busy time and then I forgot my password._________________If I say "I love you" to someone, then I also have to say "I also love everyone else inside you, I love the whole world because of you, I also love myself inside you." -- Erich Fromm, the Art of Love

The electoral college is just silly, in my opinion. It's a system left over from when America was just getting into swing and the smaller states felt underrepresented. However, there are plenty of Americans in all the states now, so it's really not needed (but now Americans are too stupid to realize that, and we continue to use it for some dumb reason).

Such chutzpah to think that everyone who doesn't agree with you must be stupid. Did you ever think that the reason we still have it is as valid today as it was back then? If we chose by popular vote, candidates would focus a majority of their time and money on major population centers such as New York, California, Illinois, Pennsylvania, and Texas. A winner-take-all electoral college system forces candidates to acknowledge the people and interests of fly-over states that would normally get ignored. Even North Carolina, which if it were to break off the continent and sink into the Atlantic would hardly be missed, suddenly becomes important and noticed every 4 years. So occasionally rarely we get a president elected by an electoral college counting fluke. Big deal. It's not an appointment for life. If he is so terrible, he would've gotten dumped in 4 years (see Carter, Bush 1). The Dems needed to nominate someone who is more than lackluster if they wanted to beat someone who is merely mediocre even if he did get in on a fluke.

You're right, my judgement was too snap and I should try to have a more open mind.
But, in defense of my view, you could use that argument in the other direction too! Smaller CITIES (such as my small, lefty city in the midst of a conservative state) do not make a difference at all, because NC is majorly republican. If no one in my city voted, or everyone in my city voted, it wouldn't make a difference in the outcome of the election- not a very empowering thought._________________peace-monger

We should declare war on North Vietnam. . . .We could pave the whole country and put parking strips on it, and still be home by Christmas.

--Ronald Reagan, 1965

because of this, I thought Reagan made war in Vietnam, but obviously I was wrong. Seems that Truman, Eisenhower and Kennedy are the ones who made war with Vietnam.

America's history is full of blood and wars against the Middle East and against North Vietnam and other countries. (I don't want to count them) Maybe they earn their money with weapon production._________________If I say "I love you" to someone, then I also have to say "I also love everyone else inside you, I love the whole world because of you, I also love myself inside you." -- Erich Fromm, the Art of Love