Not sure if this is allowed here, but have found myself super emotional about the royal baby and was wondering if anyone else was as well?

If you're not up to speed, Meghan Markle, aka the Duchess of Sussex, has an absolutely garbage family of origin (with the exception of her mother). Her parents split when she was little, and after she became famous, her father and half-sisters constantly bad-mouth her in the press to get attention for themselves. It seems like she has chosen to go NC with them (for good reason), and they use every opportunity they can to insult her and put her down. Obviously we can't make any diagnoses, but I think their comments will ring familiar to a lot of people in this sub. On top of that, she was previously married to a guy who is now pitching a "royal divorce comedy" to Fox, so draw your own conclusions about him. And then when she started dating Prince Harry, she had to endure insulting, racist British press coverage for years.

Meghan has been through so much, but through it all, she has held her head high. She has been nothing but classy and positive. She works hard and uses her platform in the Royal Family to call attention to different charitable causes (and has always been super focused on philanthropy.)

I found myself sobbing at the royal wedding last year and getting misty-eyed earlier this week, even though I normally don't get invested in celebrities. I am just so happy that she finally has her happy ending. I feel like she's a role model and living proof that you don't have to be defined by your family of origin. There have been multiple times in the past year when dealing with issues from my nmom and brother I've thought, "If Meghan can do it, so can I."

No, you're not weird. I think most people acknowledge that her father is a raging narc and her sister is also abusive. I'm glad she has a supportive husband now and hope the media stops giving her narc family a platform to stir up shitty drama.

She has a dad - Prince Charles. He graciously stepped in when she told her narc dad off over his hoopla around her marriage, and walked her down the aisle. And her mother, Doria Ragland, is amazing in her own right.

Honestly, I cried thinking about how kind that was of Prince Charles. I dreaded wedding planning and thinking about having my dad “give me away.” Instead, my husband and I walked in together. Thinking about how he stepped in to do that for her, and how much it probably meant to her to not have her father involved still makes me tear up.

Then her dad tried pulling the "I don't want attention, but give it to me anyway while I lay the pity party in myself hard" spiel. Everyone but her mother has just shown how greedy and vile they are. It's all they want from her, money and recognition. She just worked hard and made herself a better person and has shown she's way better and bigger than that immature, ridiculous drama.

All too often I see comments like "her father paid for her college education! And she repays him by ignoring him and shutting him out!" and it makes me incredibly sad to see that people are just expected to bend over backwards for toxic entitled narcissistic parents just because every now and then they happened to do right by their kids.

On a related note, after my Nmother split from my stepfather, my hubby and I were conversing with him and Nmother naturally came up in conversation. I brought up her gambling addiction (that she's had since I was a child) and how it's why she's never had money, and my stepfather was flabbergasted because my mother had always told him she was broke from paying for my sister and my higher education. She did not. My sister and I are still paying our education loans off - she never even helped with buying textbooks. You can't believe anything narcissists say. They lie or at the very least twist the truth.

My mother helps me financially (rent). As soon as I can stand on my own feet, I'll be living my life completely away from her. Doesn't mean I'm ungrateful. It only means I understand what is healthier for me, and where I want my life to go.

I hate this stupid argument "Her dad did x for her, and she repays by leaving". We know nothing of these people. For all we know, this man did the bare minimum and offered to pay for higher education to use it against her in a manipulation scheme. I hope people can just stop judging situations they know nothing about.

As soon as I can stand on my own feet, I'll be living my life completely away from her. Doesn't mean I'm ungrateful. It only means I understand what is healthier for me, and where I want my life to go.

This. This, this this, a million times over, this. This was a giant step forward for my healing, to realize that just because I let me parents pay for me to live with them in college, etc, doesn't mean I am being ungrateful. I was just dependent. Literally a dependent - with all the guilt of being an independent adult, and none of the financial ability.

I read a comment once I like to tell people when they try that grateful crap with me. Just because someone did something nice for me at one time doesn't mean I need to set myself on fire to keep them warm ever after.

You absolutely deserve to enjoy the best life you can provide for yourself and if that means cutting poison people out of it so be it.

I always explain it to people like this. If someone offered to give you $100,000 but the flip side was that they would be entitled to belittle, shame, insult, degrade, and plucky humiliate you for it, and you have to be grateful for the exchange, would you do it?

I'm certainly not well off, and have spent most of my life living paycheck to paycheck, so getting $100,000 would be unbelievable, but there is no way I would take such a "deal". No hesitation on that, at all.

I know what it's like to have family (in my case in-laws), who demand the world just because every now and then they offer some little favor, and if their unreasonable requests are refused it's like a toddler throwing the toys out of the cot. Some people never grew up.

This is the choice I had with my NDad and I took the college tuition and constant barrage of vitriol until I finished uni & grad school. I'm in a better place now and have little to no contact with him but I would never go back and do it again.

I'm sorry you had to go through that. Thankfully, I've never had a major "obligation" to a narc. And I intend to keep it that way. I have seen it ruin other people's lives though. I'd rather live a peaceful, happy life of quiet mediocrity (and indeed I am doing just that), than to gain advantages by being indebted to a narcissist.

For all we know it could have been part of the child support agreement when her mom and Ndad divorced. I’d even go so far to think he’d agree to that in lieu of alimony or other support. He’s a piece of work. I’m happy for Meghan, fairytales do come true.

If that’s seriously an issue, you really need to learn about basic genealogy.

Assuming an average of 25 years per generation, and that 9th cousins go back 10 generations for a common ancestor, you’re looking at approximately 250 years back. For historical perspective, Australia wasn’t even being officially explored, and I don’t think it was even found by the British then. America hadn’t declared independence yet.

That would mean that a significant amount of both Australia and America would share common ancestry closer to that point. So “9th cousins” is sheer stupidity concocted by the media, to introduce controversy, probably because they were having a slow day.

When I looked it up, they could trace an ancestor they share. . 15 generations back! 15 generations back, I have 32,000 grandparents just from that generation. We're all probably more closely related to our spouses than that lolol

Kate literally stood on the stairs with her pooch hanging out six hours after giving birth. The only difference is she chose dresses that weren’t belted, which makes sense because no one wants to wear constrictive clothing after popping out a human being. There’s no need to shit on one to prop up the other.

I strongly dislike 'Cinderella' stories and the idea of being treated like a princess. However, coming from a completely batshit crazy and mentally abusing parents, good on her for making it out and providing herself with an even better platform to help people.

I just can't help but totally adore Meghan. Every time I see her I just have to stop and admire her. She is just so beautiful and classy and all of her struggle makes her more so. I can't begin to describe what it feels like knowing that there is this amazing woman out there who is literally a Princess and has risen above the crap family life gave her and has her happy ending, too. Yes, I agree with you 100%, OP! I'll never be a Princess, but I certainly can choose to make a better life and be a better person, and that's the hope I see when I look at Meghan. <3

Oh wow, I had no idea her family was that fucking toxic, except her mom of course. Seeing their outcries of “oh she’s completely erased us from her life, we’re faaaamily. Why would she dooooo this to uuuusss??” and then turn around and use her fame to make a profit for themselves makes me sick. Her asshole half-sister is writing a “tell-all” book about her for Christ sake! AND her ex-husband is pitching a show based off of her! Good for her for finding a better family and holding her head high through ALL of that miasma from others, and fuck all the haters who say “but you’ve only got one faaaamily and one daaaad”. She’s my idol now. All Hail the Queen of NC! 🙌

The part of not saying anything comes with being part of the royal family, they will rarely if never comment on things in the media and she's married into that mentality. On the plus side they have all been dragged through the public ringer at one time or another and I suspect understand what she's going through more than anyone else could and I like that I get the feeling her new family is supporting her behind the scenes in everyway they can. For a crazed royal watcher like me there are a lot of little tells in things like the jewelry the queen has lent her to wear & the events she's done with Meghan are very clear stamps of she's one of us & we've got her back. I totally see where you're coming from.

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I never really followed the royals, but around Megan’s wedding I saw the signs and got hooked to her story. I really feel for her. I’m so glad she has a supportive partner to be with her through all this, and in the end he - and their new baby - is all that really matters. Her family acts atrociously in the public eye and I can imagine just what they’re like with her in private. Which I’m sure we’d know all about due to their inability to keep any sensitive information to themselves.

It’s just wild to me how some people come out and say SHE’S the narcissist. They know just enough of what it means....to be completely wrong. I hope they understand the actual situation. Oh, and everyone reeling that she acted differently before she got famous? Of fucking course she did (like everyone)?? I’m sure a lot of people would hang with the circles they chose and made more than the family that acts like hers. She was given an out and took it, just like I did when I had the chance. Lastly, she wrote a thoughtful letter to reconcile with her dad that he so “wonderfully” shared with the world and everyone shit on her for writing it formally and planned out. Meanwhile her dad had written his stale congratulations on the baby statement months ago and substituted grandchild for Archie when he learned the name.

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