I never went deep with human pheromones it but saw a sudden shift in how women were reacting just from eye contact and it started happening again last night when I implemented some things from his book.

I love his idea about getting rejected to get into social/sexual God mode. It's so true, I love some of his frames. Thanks for sharing man. How are things nowadays?

Edit: Oh cool, just saw your other post on coming back to the community, reading it now. Great to hear guys are active on here. I stopped reading/posting on here a long time ago but it's great to see guys are posting stuff on here and getting results. Glad to be back and see active members making moves. Things nowadays are going good and much more relaxed than at the time when I wrote this exact report (In fact, some of my opinions have changed with human pheromones). For those wanting to hear it, this is the link : pinecanada73.jimdo.com/2016/01/30/human-pheromone-replacement/

The point of the guy is : too much pheromone makes you less simulated with real sex so stop watching porn for 2/3 months and see how effective his pheromones are.

First of all: Of course I don't miss it. In the beginning it was super tough, as this behaviour is taking charge of your brain like a drug. But with the years you just get used to girls getting you off instead of getting it from Masturbation.

My libido is naturally very low, and if I masturbated I wouldn't be intrinsically motivated at all to find a woman. That would be equal to self-castration.

@SayGoodbye: I mean all variations of touching your cock outside of normal situations like pissing, washing it or having normal sex with a woman. Porn or no porn doesn't matter. Masturbation is masturbation.

You don't want to be like one of these masturbating monkeys:

I hope this clarifies it. If you have any other questions, go ahead and ask. I do realise that no one ever really expressed his thoughts about masturbation the same way I did (a ton of introspection, reading and observation went into this).

I just thought about it... I have a less than a handful of friends who are fucking more chicks than anyone else I know because they have a high libido... These guys masturbate too, but the only reason why they do it is because otherwise they would go bonkers... Now, if you fuck less than 8 chicks a month naturally, this will probably not apply to you and you should quickly stop touching your self. I've been focusing on using 60 years of challenge's aggressive physical game, I'm sold. I'm very satisfied at the results it gives me and the time it saves me too. I'm sure when I get jacked and refine my style to the T, I'll be unstoppable. So I'm walking back to my house and I make strong eye contact with this chick. I run after her and I immediately start holding her hand, touching the small of her back. Learn more at http://www.brownpapertickets.com/blogcomments/104845

I then use Good looking loser's "follow me" move and we start walking in the directions of my house.

I'm talkng about random parts about my life, how I palyed soccer and did other stuff.

Then I put my back against a wall, and pull her close to talk a bit more and she starts making out with me.(damn it's on)

​Getting laid with pheromones is easy. I appreciated her beauty, her long, black hair, perfectly made face, long legs that were accentuated by her high heels and tight beige trousers. Everything about her presence was perfectly thought through. The personification of female beauty, a HB9 on my scale. She ordered a drink, I took her hand, looked in her eyes, got closer, we kissed. Learn about pheromone chemical signals.

Pheromones and Kissing

We talked a little. Kissed again. She loved that I was wearing Pherazone pheromones. But the spark wasn't really there. At least I didn't feel it. May be she did, I have no idea. I found out she lives on the same street that I live in. The club was closing anyway, so I said "Let's go home". On the way home, we didn't talk about going to my place or hers who loves human pheromones. But I knew at some point, I would have to bring it up. So in front of my house, she said "I'm not coming home with you". I said it's fine, I have some wine, and I'll show her some photos. She said that's dangerous to use natural pheromones.

I said it's fine. I opened the door, she still stood there on the pavement, looking nervous like a little girl at Christmas waiting for her presents. I pretended to go inside. She said "Ok, you convinced me" and joined me. The first thing I did when I was at home was I went into the bathroom. Now 60 Years of Challenge took over again. I took a piss, then took off my jeans and boxers and removed the belt. I put the jeans back on. Wow, it felt quite comfortable being without boxers! You should try! Next time I'll go to a nightclub like that! My friend who does Pickup in Russia, NEVER wears anything under his jeans. That's a big lifestyle decision, that I'm not yet ready to take! Learn about pheromones results and austingosser.bcz.com/2015/09/14/caught-in-a-pheromone-trap/

Pheromones for Intimacy

I come back in, give her some excellent German wine, we smoke a cigarette, and I start showing her Youtube videos. That was my mistake. I wanted to play it safe. I should have just started kissing, caressing her and taking her cloths off. When she went to the bathroom, I turned off the light, and sat down closer to the wall to show her pictures. How stupid of me. She was expecting to be seduced. We kissed a little, but I didn't feel the spark. At some point she said, she'll smoke another cigarette and go home. I took my jacket and brought her to her place. She gave me a passionate Good Bye kiss and went inside. And I thought to myself...the pheromones must be working. ... It's 4 am. The night is not over yet. Going back to town was not an option as everything closes at 3 am here in Scotland. I was still without boxers. Learn about www.kiwibox.com/nicolascas/blog/entry/134713537/approach-pheromones/

This is the result of using natural human pheromones. So I decided I go to my DJ friend's place. He invited me to his after party. So I came there. Most people knew me there. Some met me before, when I had long hair, so they were surprised to see me with short hair and natural pheromone scents

​The entire magic of the pheromone interaction was in my sub-communication and in my control over the interaction. Let me break it down what was going on:

1. This is the foundation of all following points I have made about using human pheromones: I stayed extremely calm, in control of myself and the interaction, and very centered in my presence. I never reacted hastily, I never lost touch with my real self or would get caught up in some thought bullshit or her frames. I would dictate what we talked about, and if she says threw some bullshit at me I either just ignored it or sometimes took a long break showing I'm not moved by her bullshit and then retorted with something that reinforced I'm calling the shots when it comes to pheromone attraction. What I said didn't matter as much as the fact that I didn't buy into her frame. Learn about the top pheromones here.

2. I sub-communicated strongly that I don't need her and that I'm selecting her. She would test me by walking away from me, going back to her friends for minutes without explanation and then checking how I would react. I never followed, I never looked after her and my face didn't cringe in panic when she left. I was just like, yeah it's cool, whatever. I was able to stay in control because I was so grounded in myself, sorry if it sounds like hippie-shit but I can't describe it any other way. It's like how you feel when a 5 year old is acting up, you know you're in control so you stay calm.​I knew she'd come back and she knew I knew it. One time she walked about 7m away from me to some friends and I stayed put then simply extended my hand making the come her motion. She stormed towards me. Sh eloped the smell of Pherazone pheromones. Discover why pheromones are useful.

3. I showed her that I'm in control of her pheromones. I assigned the frames to everything, meaning my judgment would count. This was a consequence of me being more centered than her and she reacting to me. For example, I wear ugly as fuck looking ear plugs. They basically look like hearing aids. So at one point she was playing with my ears looking if I had piercing holes. She discovered the ear plugs and a bit shocked exclaimed: omg you have hearing aids! and started giggling." I stayed calm as fuck not reacting nor defending myself and just looked at her. Eventually I asked: Are you done laughing? Because I wasn't ashamed she had no choice but adapt to my emotions and started massaging my ears saying "so cute hihihihi". Learn more at chrshrt112.typepad.com/blog/2015/09/mass-trapping-the-pheromones.html

4. I rocked her fucking world so hard. I would do a mixture of looking her deep into the eyes without blinking, feeling her, touching her just in the right moment, then retracting my hand, going in for a kiss but then turning my head a way, smiling knowingly, showing I'm in control. She was ready to kiss me but I decided not to. I would walk back a few steps and she had no choice but to follow. I looked away from her bored, then stare her deeply into the eyes without blinking. I would laugh, be laud and dance silly in front of her not afraid of her judgement. Then be calm and quiet again sometimes even a bit absent. Suddenly I would burst into a song singing loudly and having fun, then I'd hug and spine her, then drop her. Learn more about pheromones at http://lusharson8884.exteen.com/20150908/pheromone-diversity

​All’s you need to get laid is to use human pheromones. First of all you need to realise that you don't need to be energetic and "look like you're having fun" at all. I said it a million times before, but I'm gonna repeat it for you, because if you think about it really hard, your belief (that you need to be energetic and shit) is pretty stupid and you'll find it funny that you've always believed you need to be/act that way. Honestly look at it... You'll start laughing...

In total I've met 4 guys in night clubs that went out on a regular basis all by themselves by using Pherazone pheromones. From these 4, I personally know two and they keep it extremely simple. They come to a venue, chill out and enjoy the atmosphere and may be have a water or something stronger. When a hot chick comes near them they start talking with her as if they know her and start asking simple questions. From their presence you wouldn't say they're high energy and in a fun state. Quite the opposite actually. And they normally go home with a chick or at least end up with some numbers that are responsive. I have the most successes in my game when I roll into a club not paying attention to all the idiots acting crazy and drunk. Learn more about pheromones at all4webs.com/perfectquilt5828/effectivepheromonescience.htm?23149=64026

And for the other two that I met in my life, I realised that they also just come and chill once they detected my pheromone scent. One was a black guy. A typical cool cat who goes to a bar on a Friday or Saturday night, buys himself a few glasses of 20 year old whisky and just sips on it enjoyingly while being totally relaxed. I talked to him, so that's how I know. And this relaxed guy went home at the end of the night with a hot chick. Unfortunately, I didn't take his number to find out more about how he does it. It would have looked weird anyway with real pheromones. Learn about the power of real pheromones.

Stop that RSD bullshit. It's ridiculous how that whole "Lording the club" thing is still in people's heads. I remember I watched Tim in that hour-long RSD video, and I tried that shit. There were nights, where I entered a venue and two hours later, 90% of people in the club knew me by name. After that I was all drained out. Learn about the absolute best pheromones.

Just stop acting like that and get better with the girls. You always come up with excuses and reasons why this and that doesn't work for YOU specifically. You're not as special as you think. Then you ask for advice, but never act on it without true pheromones.

I mean, what the fuck is holding you back? You've been here since 2007, but you keep coming back to ask for the simplest things. And that's not a bad thing in itself. The bad thing is, that the solutions are right around the corner, but you pretend not to see them. Or you don't want to see them. Or your windshield just needs some cleaning, so that you see them. And the other bad thing is that you never act on the things that will bring you success. It is soooo simple if you think about it. Or if you don't overthink it, actually (HINT HINT... The game is simpler than you thought it is!).

​We went to a nightclub after that and wore pheromones. While standing in line, my ex gf calls me. The message: "I miss you". A Thai girl at the bar started flirting with me. I could have gone home with her easily. I felt it. She smelled like Pherazone pheromones. That's a deal breaker for me. A woman has to smell nice for me. If that box is not ticked, there is no chance I could do something with a woman that smells weird. Did Eye Contact with lots of girls. One very bossy woman started flirting with me. The Eye Contact was intense, and there it was again, the spark.

It was just "on”. I knew she detected my pheromone signals. You feel those things. Sixty is speaking so much truth. That "It's On Moment" happens all the time. We came closer to each other, almost kissed. She wouldn't kiss me right then and there. So I took her hand, said "Lets get out of here", she declined smilingly. So I said "Let's sit down over there". We went to a couch, and starting making out. It felt like magic, that kiss was full of energy. This time, although not really recalibrated, I said "Let's get out of here". She asked "where are we going", I replied "To my place. We can still come back later." She said no. Cool. Learn how to increase pheromone production.

I always knew pheromones would make a difference. Then interview questions again. When it came to names I gave her the wrong name. Lol. She kissed me, and walked away. Hahaha. I met a female friend of mine, Latvian and very beautiful. She said her ex-best friend (also Latvian) was there as well. They don't talk any more, but I know that the other girl finds me quite hot from reading between the lines. So I went outside with VB, and called that girl. She didn't pick up. 5 minutes later, my phone rings. We talk a little, she said she's in another club already. Learn about pheromones to attract women.

I told this girl that she should come over to meet me. She would have done it, would I not change my mind. I thought to myself, that I already checked out most girls in the place that we were in, so it might be a good idea to change the venue.

Pheromones make attraction simple:

Fall on a girl, open with breaking rapport voiceMake her feel emotions: push-pull, sad or happy storiesMake her trust you: tell her everything about youPull her while offering some basic excuse and handling any obstacles on the way. The guy, obviously a creep, almost crashed my hand. I saw on his face, he's big and strong, but insecure about girls. My girl wanted me to walk over to her sister, I declined. I didn't want to be with these people. So I went inside, checking the venue out with VB. Before I could do anything, she calls me and asks where I am. I'm on 2nd floor, ordering water. She comes alone this time. I knew everyone else left her, and she was there only for me. Learn more at ​http://ekta-parishad.org/a-vaginal-orgasm-is-very-different/

Guys, I cannot say this any more seriously, you can be living EVERY....SINGLE....MOMENT COMPLEEEETELYYYYYY with your passions and purpose and attract women with human pheromones.

If you are not in your flow state, then there is something corrupting you, there is some part of you jammed that you need to break open and resolve with pheromones.

This happened to me today - working on my business, I reach new areas of content that I need to complete and each time I feel overwhelmed, then I drop into it and feel completely in my flow state. Where does that overwhelming feeling come from?

From feeling like I am not perfect, like I cannot make something perfect. From feeling like I don't even know where to start with Nexus pheromones.

But as soon as I push those feelings aside, I am flying by with literally all of the answers that I needed.. The thing is, I can keep dealing with the same problem of overwhelm, or I can find out where it's coming from and solve it once and for-all pheromone oils.

For example, you can break through that adrenaline each time you walk up to a girl, and slowly grow numb to it - then maybe you don't in a week and you do again and you feel completely destroyed... OR you could decide to realize what it is inside of you that makes you conditioned to respond in that manner.. If you choose the second one, then you will never respond in that manner ever again - you'll be completely different from then on using natural pheromones according to http://michaelspheros.blogspot.com/2016/10/full-pherazone-test-revealed-does-it.html

SO this is what I mean when I tell you to break it open and resolve the issue. In my case, it comes from many stories I had to break through and change.

The thing is, you should be addicted to what you're doing if it's for your good.It's like with having integrity for your body: Eating healthy should not be hard.. Eating healthy should be ADDICTING Working out should not be a pain.. It should be EXCITING Breaking your ass on a business that immerses you in what you love should not be overwhelming.. it should be EXHILARATING.

What is blocking you is the opposite side of the spectrum that you need and that's why it's keeping you where you are because you are not normally opened to that side of the spectrum and for that specific reason you are still not where you want yourself to go.So, unblock that shit, transmute that energy, resolve it and turn it into the exact opposite energy that you need true pheromones! Remind yourself why you are doing something and where that thing is stemming from inside of you - if it's based on your purpose and passions, then remind yourself and remember how you feel when you do things based on them.. pheromones work in men and women.

Life should never feel painful, it should be SMOOTH and resonant, it should be in harmony.. You need to break down all the things that are keeping you from that harmony because those things are the exact same things keeping you from the point in time that you are looking forward to your pheromone experience.​

​Rejection from pheromones is rare. However, what if the thing that hurts is your ego? You look at it in the eyes and you KNOW that all you were really after, is banging her using human pheromones. So your mind doesn't care if it's just for sex. You wanted it, and she said no. And now you are not worthy. I hued to feel this way more often. Then I improved myself and got way less rejections. I didn't solve it though. Because now whenever there's any type of rejection.. i know what's coming. And it's bad without pheromones.

"Banging her" as your prime objective is looking at the world through a physical frame of mind where you are objectifying everything outside of yourself to find things that make you feel good inside with natural pheromones. If you were not focused on 'taking' things from around you in order to make yourself feel better, you wouldn't ever want to just 'fuck' a girl. - you wouldn't look at girls as if they are 'pheromone worthy'

... Releasing your sexual energy is like throwing out your resources if your not investing them in the right way. All men in this frame of mind have sex in order to feel pleasure - and in that pleasure, they further themselves from the deep intimate connection they could be having with themselves. Same with when they do drugs - they are doing it for pleasure and in the meanwhile detracting from themselves. Learn about pheromone releaser effects.

Why does pleasure seeking cause one to detract from themselves? Because they have infinite pleasure within them but when they seek it outside of them, they are validating the frame that they are nothing but a black void within because they just keep on searching for the next thing to take stronger pheromones. Learn more ay michaelspheros.blogspot.com/2016/09/college-girl-who-loved-my-pheromone.html

So, the whole premise to begin with - the whole frame that you're looking at girls with is causing you to feel rejected - because your saying that you're a black hole within yourself and when you can't get someone to fill it.. Well of course you'll be depressed because you think you're nothing inside.

But you are everything inside, your inside is the source of life. If only you stop searching for pheromone attraction outside and you connect to your inside - then your inside will guide you in ways to become further connected to the love you have for yourself.

Hydra is speaking about remaining within your beliefs and not feeling judged by others because you truly have no idea where they're coming from. Don is saying have a purpose in your life - and that stems from living in an intimate connection with yourself. - You cannot feel this purpose unless you know that you're important, and you're not important unless you know what your passions are and your purpose in life.. Only way you can find those is by being intimately connected with yourself. The rejection puts doubt into my mind and that already empty hole gets larger and large.

​Pheromones make dating easier. However, what if the thing that hurts is your ego? You look at it in the eyes and you KNOW that all you were really after, is fucking her with human pheromones. So your mind doesn't care if it's just for sex pheromones. You wanted it, and she said no. And now you are not worthy. I had to feel this way more often. Then I improved myself and got way less rejections. I didn't solve it though. Because now whenever there's any type of rejection.. I know what's coming. And it's bad. "Fucking her" as your prime objective is looking at the world through a physical frame of mind where you are objectifying everything outside of yourself to find things that make you feel good inside when you detect pheromones through your VNO.

If you were not focused on 'taking' things from around you in order to make yourself feel better, you wouldn't ever want to just ‘bang’ a girl. - you wouldn't look at girls as if they are ‘pheromone worthy'

... Releasing your sexual energy is like throwing out your resources if your not investing them in the right way. All men in this frame of mind have sex in order to feel pleasure - and in that pleasure, they further themselves from the deep intimate connection they could be having with themselves. Same with when they do drugs - they are doing it for pleasure and in the meanwhile detracting from themselves. Learn why pheromones are important.

Why does pleasure seeking cause one to detract from themselves?Because they have infinite pleasure within them but when they seek it outside of them, they are validating the frame that they are nothing but a black void within because they just keep on searching for the next thing to take.

So, the whole premise to begin with - the whole frame that you're looking at girls with is causing you to feel rejected - because your saying that you're a black hole within yourself and when you can't get someone to fill it.. Well of course you'll be depressed because you think you're nothing inside without Pherazone. Learn why pheromones are omnipotent.

But you are everything inside, your inside is the source of life. If only you stop searching for stuff outside and you connect to your inside - then your inside will guide you in ways to become further connected to the love you have for yourself.

Hydra is speaking about remaining within your beliefs and not feeling judged by others because you truly have no idea where they're coming from.Don is saying have a purpose in your life - and that stems from living in an intimate connection with yourself. - You cannot feel this purpose unless you know that you're important, and you're not important unless you know what your passions are and your purpose in life.. Only way you can find those is by being intimately connected with yourself.

But how do I get to that point? Right now I do feel like that black hole, that I have nothing to offer, and while I have many positive qualities that girls "should" appreciate I feel like they don't. The rejection puts doubt into my mind and that already empty hole gets larger and larger.

Through the years I had intermittent insecurities and doubts, by times, about sexuality and particularly in my relationship with women using pheromones.I must had about 12 regular partners (for up to 2 years each) I have slept with about 40 or 50 women and had a relationship of eight years with the mother of my daughter, until two years ago, when we've separated.

Since then, I've not had intercourse. Yes, two years without sex pheromones. First time in my life that it occurs to me.

When I was invited here, never heard concepts like PUA and never knew about communities dedicated to it. But I found here much more.

And thanks to casually watch The Pheromones Method (not my way, but I've seen many interesting things on it) and Masculine Power of Mark Manson, I’ve start to focus my problems from another perspectives of pheromones.

Just a few months ago, after getting a proper place, I returned very slowly to recover motivation, going out -a little-, chatting with some girls, flirting, seduction ... but at the moment of truth, or I chickened out, or become timid, or leave the place or situation, or start to think nonsense things because she has 40 and is very old (I prefer youngers), or is 19 and I find it VERY young, or has 30 but blah, or anything happens less than physical contact, intimacy , empathy, sex. Excuses.

You recommend me in my previous thread many readings, audios, videos, which little by little I’m integrating with my thoughts and ways of acting, so I wanted to open this thread to make a report of this strange moment in my life, in which I hope to feel free, uninhibited, alpha, and enjoy this life without repressions and restrictions of pheromone usage.

If all goes well, I'll tell you in this thread about the return to myself, my new approaches, my new relationships, my conquests and my experience. Think of the word "rejection".. What are they rejecting? The experience that you want to share with them.

But why should that hurt you? Does their rejection of the experience you have to share say that what you have to share isn't good enough..?Do you need them to feel full, to feel giddy and joyful, to feel perplexed with intimate emotions? <-- I wager the answer is no, because all of those feelings come from inside of you

When you are thinking from the frame of rejection, you are deriving all of those wonderful feelings with the person that could have given them to you.Rather than doing that, you need to re-frame it to think of those feelings as always present and available inside of you for you to enjoy..

Another thing to understand is that the other person is in their own beliefs, they have their own stories, they are living their own life.. What you have to offer them is just not what they want to experience in that moment - it's not calibrated to their reality.. They don't connect to you.

Another type of rejection is someone waving you away like you're a pest in their life - like you have no value. - Should this hurt your feelings?

​Recently, I started using Ten by Intense pheromones to see how powerful they are. I wanted to try pheromones and to understand ways to dissolve the rejection myth. I think that I take rejection a bit too seriously and it hinders me from making a lot if progress. It's not that I 'break' after a rejection, far from it. But rather I start to feel troubled when I am not getting positive responses from pheromone users. Example: me in restaurant. Leaving.

My experience using human pheromones

Saying thank you to hot waitress. Hot waitress looks for a milisecond and answers. Then quickly looks away. No smile. As if she is really weirded out by someone saying thank you. Or perhaps it's because I'm good looking? Someone once told me I should expect some girls to act strange and cold to me at first because of my looks. Whatever. This response gets me kinds sad like "the fuck did i do to make her look away after a millisecond of using pheromones. Learn about Ten By Intense pheromones cologne

I get that a lot. It could mean anything.

It's funny how some waitress want look in my eyes even while I'm ordering longer than a millisecond, as you said.

It doesn't mean you couldn't get to her if you go back and try.But so many want break eye contact, with a flirtatious smile checking you out.

Ten by intense is a powerful gay pheromones. It's up to you on whom you want spend you energy on and what you are looking for. But you have to stop at looking rejections like this, like you are the only factor. Learn more about pheromones at mpommett.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-1.html

These things matter to you because you probably don't have a higher purpose than petty romance. Let's say you were the attorney general grilling the FBI director over Hillary Clinton's lost emails in front of congress and everybody is watching and it could impact the entire world. Would you give a damn about eye contact from a waitress? Fuck no. The only solution is more masculinity, not micro-calibration. If you don't have a purpose beyond petty romance, you'll be here 10 years later asking the same silly questions.Learn about pheromones at http://pomm79.moonfruit.com/blog/4588864419/Meet-The-Phermones/9573173

I'd like to jump in as I was going to post a similar question. Pheromone rejection practically flat lines me and I feel a huge emptiness/void inside of me. Its magnified when its with someone I know more closely (either dating for a while or friends who i start to feel attracted to).

I'm not sure how/where to find the emotional resilience to carry on. I don't want to feel so depressed/distraught every time I get rejected. I hate the fact that each rejection makes me feel like I'm dying. I start to feel worthless, like no women will ever choose me, etc... The worst is that I don't have many instances of getting accepted by women each rejection just piles on stronger. I got over this recently and it has been incredibly freeing to me, and of course, you get over it in different degrees (severity leads to more growth).