Posted - 2012.04.04 00:52:00 -
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What I'm getting from this is that CCP has little interest in preventing anyone from helping out a friend in need, but you do so at your own risk.

Speaking strictly from a players point of view, if you really aren't sure about your internet buddy, ask him point blank if he RMT's occasionally. If he actually is a good friend he'll probably admit it... and if you do it via chat you'd have a copy of the logs if he maintained that he did not.

Not that a chat log would necessarily end the matter, especially if you seem to make a habit out of loaning money to RMTers, but it's better than nothing.

Personally, if I give someone something it's usually a ship that they might need to earn ISK to get back on their feet... and I do mean give, I don't expect anything in return. Repayment can consist on passing that favor on when needed, and hopefully one day if I ever find myself in that situation Karma will look after me.

I'm not presuming to speak for anyone, just my personal point of view.When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.

Posted - 2012.04.04 01:20:00 -
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I tend to really lose faith in humanity when the most forum active Dev in CCP catches so much **** from players.

I find it really hard to grasp why anyone would be made nervous by that blog. Have some faith that they are trying to catch bots, not harass players. If you are nervous based simply on reading that blog, your probably doing something shady.

Will some of the tools etc you are using be available for DUST514 and WOD?

Is there a guide you can point to on how the community can help you fight the good fight - a Link where I can tell a whiner to be a solution vs a symptom of bots.

can such player designed things like Farfmpukinhttp://esb.multiplexgaming.com/index.phpEmpire strikes back: a campaign to fight botting in Null secI agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace.In eve I wish to be more than just a machine.

I am 110% against BOTS and RMT farmers etc..... however I would REALLY like a serious answer to this question.

The reason BOTS exist is because a game mechanic exists where no human intelligence is required to complete the task. A BOT is capable of performing a game task much better then a human because this is actually a GAME DESIGN FLAW.

I hate to say it but botting exists because the activity of mining ore and ice is brainless, requiers no skills and can be automated.

Several people have made good suggestions on how to improve the game and make it more fun while making it harder for botting to occur, yet here we are banning accounts.You would not need to pay a security team a ton of REAL money if you actually use that money to fix the game mechanics.

Which begs the question, is it cheaper to pay a security team money to ban botters instead of fixing the actual game mechanics?

There are bots for every single aspect of the game, mission, trade, courier, etc. Besides, every single MMO out there has bots, so by your logic each one "is brainless, requiers no skills and can be automated".

Posted - 2012.04.04 01:42:00 -
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Man I don't see what's so fussy about loans.You loan isk to some deadbeat, he doesn't pay you back, you're out isk.You loan isk to some rmter, he pays you back but it gets reversed, you're out the same amount of isk.Unless I missed where they said they'd be handing out bans.

ETCs can be purchased from the official resellers at https://secure.eveonline.com/ETC however it's important to note that this is buying ETC, not PLEX. The difference is important.

While a 60 day ETC can be converted to PLEX, you are not buying two 30 Day Pilot License Extensions from those websites buy a 60 day EVE Time Code. It may seem nitpicky since the ETC can be converted to PLEX, but converting the ETC to PLEX is one option, not the only one, and until that conversion is made you have a code for 60 days of game time, not 2 PLEX sitting in your Redeemable Items. If another website is claiming they sell PLEX directly in an official capacity the claim would be incorrect. Buying PLEX directly from another site is not allowed.

To put it another way, there's no such thing as an "Official PLEX Reseller", only Official ETC resellers.

The information given earlier was not for the ETC/PLEX system as a whole, but for the PLEX-from-sites concerns like:

ThatSourDiesel wrote:

CCP Sreegs wrote:

The ONLY legal seller of PLEX is CCP.

This was in the blog. Does this mean that other online retailers for PLEX, like Shattered Crystal and Battleclinic, are ILLEGAL sellers? I didn't think they were, but your post confuses me.

Can anyone clarify this for me please? Thanks!!

A short answer to questions about what is/isn't ok for ETC/PLEX acquisition would be:

Posted - 2012.04.04 01:51:00 -
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Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev. I can imagine the tech your using to do this (I'm a computer scientist like a couple of others that have posted in the thread). Awesome.

Posted - 2012.04.04 02:11:00 -
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GM Nythanos, can you comment on my post #325. i feel like i was sorta left hanging. not trying to be difficult but my issues remain. please clarify this for the community.

Posted - 2012.04.04 03:51:00 -
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Does anyone know what is a reasonable time for a GM/CCP or someone to respond to a report BOT action issued in game. Its been 2 weeks since I've reported a blindly obvious Market BOT and nothing has happened? I realise there are bigger fish to fry and ( and are being fried) but trading is my main activity.

I've found since the initial BAN a few weeks ago the market bots are increasingly interfering with the market again...

My assumption is the Report Bot button is more of a feel good item, and/or requires multiple hits on the same toon to get any action (...personally I don't actually expect more from this feature, and god knows how many times it get used or misued a day)

One reason I'm pushing with this market bot to go in this thread is that it has an obvious signature which CCP don't seem to have on their autodetect rules (yet?) - I would hope Sreegs or someone wish to pursue this.

Posted - 2012.04.04 04:10:00 -
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CCP Sreegs, would you be able to take the time to link to the Making ISK guide in the Evelopedia, from your devblogs regarding botting and RMT? I figure giving people a pointer to legitimate means to make ISK withing the rules of our virtual world might help reduce the number of pointless arguments about, "ratting and mining are boring, I need better ways to make ISK."

CCP really needs to look at the root of the issue which is making isk in game in any way is terribly boring. Ratting or mining or hauling or missioning. It doesn't matter how you make your money they are all incredibly dull.

Interestingly enough, there is a Making ISK guide dealing with a variety of means to make ISK, INCLUDING NINJA SALVAGING. If you want a way to make ISK that includes all the fun of PVP, you really can't go past gankers officer-fit Tengus and CNRs in mission hubs.

As for botters "being essential" GGv bollocks! Bots are directly responsible for making mining and speculation low value activities.

Posted - 2012.04.04 05:02:00 -
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I think this is a step in the right direction. Could we get the number of players included in the number of accounts also? It would be interesting to see how many alt accounts we are talking about. I think it would be great to have some kind of ticker in officer quarters with the numbers updated on the big screen too! Killmails of the accounts would be nice as well if your taking more suggestions Keep attacking them!

Posted - 2012.04.04 05:22:00 -
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so my account got hacked last year around about june... just wondering if the reversals will have any effect on that since i lost about 10 billion isk in ships/modules and also my character looked like it was trying to be sold. REALLY hope it does :s

I really hope you will be able to eventually get rid of all the bots and botters and find a way to keep them out of the game. Maybe one of those "Captcha's" at login. Love the game and the concept and cant imagine a better way to pass time whilst playing an MMO game.

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