my album came this morning and i've played it all day. I absolutely love it i wasnt sure after the sound clips but the full songs, brilliant. Different style again, but isn't that a common occurence with Scooter??

You don't have a valid opinion as no famous music acts have ever come from your country? comment. What kind of argument is that?

I'm saying that because the UK has such a diverse music scene we can kinda tell what's in and what's out, not what i think is in or out, but the scene itself. Eastern Europe is famous for bringing music to Eastern Europe and nowhere else. GTA's music is good and maybe in the 90's he's be signed. But its not a popular style anymore. And yes, Scooter made something with a modern touch but GTA hasn't. Its still 90's trance. He's not an expert in the field of music, neither am I. But at least I can look at things without the rose-tinited glasses.

the album was better than i expected,after hearing the short samples from the teasers,i wasnt to sure i would like it because i'm not a big fan of dubstep,but after listing to the album today,i love it, mashuaia is one of my favourite tracks from the album,the album was an unexpected surprise also 'suck my megamix' is fantasic,and am looking forward to watching the inferno tonight

I'm saying that because the UK has such a diverse music scene we can kinda tell what's in and what's out, not what i think is in or out, but the scene itself. Eastern Europe is famous for bringing music to Eastern Europe and nowhere else. GTA's music is good and maybe in the 90's he's be signed. But its not a popular style anymore. And yes, Scooter made something with a modern touch but GTA hasn't. Its still 90's trance. He's not an expert in the field of music, neither am I. But at least I can look at things without the rose-tinited glasses.

As I already said: anyone from any country can be familiar with virtually all the genres that exist as well as with current musical trends. Thatâs not about a diverse music scene on a national level (which of course can be somewhere more diverse than elswhere), thatâs just about a general musical overview of a particular individual. So an opinion about music from a person from Africa, if he has this general overview, is equal to that of a person from Britain. I think it would be equal even if the person didnât have such an overview, after all, in music, weâre talking only about tastes which are 100% subjective and you canât really say that this opinion is objectively better than the other. If someone doesnât like some musical style, even if itâs at the time the most popular and modern trend on the musical scene, itâs an equally valid opinion as the opinion of the majority of people who like it. He might not be able to decide what is in and whatâs not popular and modern, but he can still make judgments whether he likes it or not and it will be a valid opinion. Music isnât made for some âsceneâ that consists of producers, artists and labels, but for ordinary people who are made out flesh and bones. Furthermore, in either case, itâs utterly irrelevant whether he person comes from a country with a worldwide famous musical act. Thatâs just completely pointless in this matter. Thatâs what my previous comment was about - not about GTA, but the universal equality and validity in musical opinions â even GTAâs, although, to be honest, I think heâs mostly just trollingâ¦

And btw, as i also already said, the fact that for example Eastern Europe (or Africa, Japan, China atc.) isn't exporting almost any popular musicians to the rest of the Globe is in many ways really just a product of economico-political power relations, with the rich and powerful western countries using their influence to shape the look of the contemporary music and decide on which artists will be played and supported.

This album made me laugh just like UnderworldÂ´s latest "TiÃ«sto and Underworld - The First Note Is Silent" which is also experimental in a way and the old UW fans are screaming and moaning just like here.
I love trance and the sound from the 80-90Â´s so most of the music styles of today are not my cup of tea at all. But I also like to see musicians (especially old ones) who dare to explore the new. This album for me is therefore much better than the mainstream "Gaga/Minogue/Madonna/Britney .â¦looong list" tracks.

But Rick! There is too much helium
Half of it could have the same effect so that even the old fans could listen to it without taking a break

I have only heard the songs on youtube so far, I get my delivery at the end of this month, so it will be interesting to see if it grows on me later or not.

the fact that for example Eastern Europe (or Africa, Japan, China atc.) isn't exporting almost any popular musicians to the rest of the Globe is in many ways really just a product of economico-political power relations, with the rich and powerful western countries using their influence to shape the look of the contemporary music and decide on which artists will be played and supported.

or more likely is that their music hasn't changed and moved with the times. i don't know why you're making one portion of what i said a big deal.

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anyone who doesn't know anything about Dubstep should really not comment on it. Everyone is gonna moan about how this isn't the 'real scooter' but i really think these people are the ones who are stuck between '94 and '97. Maybe we need Doc Brown to come and rescue them. While he's there he can pass on a message from me: Scooter are NEVER gonna make their old music! Do people actually think people are gonna want to hear 90's dance music. I certainly don't.

These 'fans' are like the obsessive girlfriend who won't let the guy go out because she thinks he'll cheat on her. That's not love, that's being possessive with a severe case of nostalgia. If you like I can create a forum for the guys who wish Scooter's music didn't progress past 2000. If you call yourself a fan you like their music. No amount of bitching and moaning will bring back the past.

Maybe these guys complaining can make something themselves and see if they can get it in the charts themselves. GTA, you're not a producer- you are funny and you are intelligent but to the music scene you're nobody, that's the way it is. You don't have a valid opinion as no famous music acts have ever come from your country. The British music scene is so diverse and in that respect I'm really lucky because I've heard so many different genres out and about. I think a few must wake up here.
I can only sign this comment because it speaks exactly what I think too.

I am disappointed. Guess what? I am allowed to be. You have been around here long enough to know that I am not either narrow minded nor childish. I have always been open to new styles from Scooter in the past, but this time I don't think it worked. So it seems I am the only one who doesn't think this is supadupa fantastic, but I'm still allowed to say so without being called names. Or at least that was appreciated back in the days when this forum felt more like family and was fun to be logged on to.

Believe me, you're not the only one.
Besides official forum TBMU has a lot of negative reviews.

I tried to discuss this, but it does not make sense - i'm in the minority.
Personally for me TBMU is not so bad, but I did not have high expectations after the last two albums...

On the other hand TBMU sells very well, so from a business point of view everything is ok - old dissapointed fans will disappear and newcomers will take their place; this happens every few years - well, it's a biz...

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or more likely is that their music hasn't changed and moved with the times.

We could discuss if non-Uk and US countries around the world (for example those of Eastern Europe) have or donât have diverse musical scene. I could agree with you that perhaps they donât (my country certainly doesnât) but even if they had, you people from the UK wouldnât be able to know it, because most of you in general have very little information about the life in Eastern Europe and the artists that are popular in particular countries. The people from Eastern Europe however can have and many do have quite good knowledge about the mainstream scene in the UK and US. So in a way, they have a broader overview than many Brits who are also mostly aware only about the mainstream scene (without the undeground), but not familiar with the music in Eastern Europe.

Anyway, a less diverse musical scene doesnât mean that the artist themselves, for a example a rock band, are bad. They might be even better than some of the artist that are famous. But due to various obstacles that relate to some of the things that I mentioned before (power, politics, economic etc.), they canât break out and gain notice besides the national borders of their country (+ perhaps its neighbor countries).

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i don't know why you're making one portion of what i said a big deal.

Because you said (in context of the critique of TBMu) that someoneâs opinion about music (in this case GTAâs) isnât valid, because he comes from a country which doesnât have a famous musical act and such a diverse musical scene like Britain, which I consider to be snobbish and pointless argument. That's all.

As is quite frequently said in the forum, its an opinion. I'll change it for you. I think I have more of an opinion on these styles as I hear it ever day, whether I be in a pub, a club, shopping or anywhere. Dubstep where I come from is massive! I has hundreds of hours of dubstep on my hard drive and been to many dub events. I think that I have more knowledge and experience in this department.

The big fuc_ked up sucks, only can save C'est blue, the only one and sugary dip. Scooter has done it only to earn money, they have kicked out their real style and now theyÂ´re playing like The black eyed peas, lady kk and all that s_hit. Tracks like copyright or itÂ´s a biz make me feel ashamed, pitbull cover?? O-M-G....the only thing i can say is that now theyÂ´re Hans Peter Geerdes, Hendrik Stedler and the other guy, theyÂ´re not Scooter.

Scooter has done it only to earn money, they have kicked out their real style and now theyÂ´re playing like The black eyed peas, lady kk and all that s_hit. Tracks like copyright or itÂ´s a biz make me feel ashamed, pitbull cover?? O-M-G....the only thing i can say is that now theyÂ´re Hans Peter Geerdes, Hendrik Stedler and the other guy, theyÂ´re not Scooter.

Sorry, you must be kidding? Earn money? This topic isn't useless, if I read those sh!t here...

I hated TBMU but i'm going to like this album,however in my opinion it's still the worst Scooter album,but it doesn't mean that i'm not a fan of scooter anymore,i've always love scooter...I hope they will back to their real style