I have no interest to buy one though I got to hold one today and it felt GREAT in the hand. Grip is very nice and allows a high purchase. Good ergos and pointed well. Had fantastic big orange dot front sight that just popped,not sure what make, maybe Trijicon, but it was nice.

Originally posted by 12131:^^^^ Just hang your body cam on your Python, and you have the same thing.

I dunno, something about old black and white pics makes it far more amusing, since in reality you're gonna get a shot at the same moment of the shot (no pun intended). Kinda of like that famous Lee Harvey Oswald picture at the moment Jack Ruby got him, pure shock or astonishment. I'd imagine a developed picture from that Colt/Kodak set up looking like this...

I've had near zero inquiries about the gun this year, which I think is unusual because before last Christmas there seem to be an average of one or two queries (just to me alone) about the gun a week. Had me thinkin' that mebbe they all got themselves one under the tree, or sumpthin'...

Since we're on the "What happened" streak, what happened to the VP9? It came out to great fanfare and excitement only to get overshadowed by the Glock, M&P, and the P320. We didn't even hear from them from the FBI tests or the Army tests?

Originally posted by DanH:Since we're on the "What happened" streak, what happened to the VP9? It came out to great fanfare and excitement only to get overshadowed by the Glock, M&P, and the P320. We didn't even hear from them from the FBI tests or the Army tests?

Blame it on Tim of the Military Arms Channel on YouTube. After he started chucking his around in his infamous 'torture' video (nothing 'test' about that vid), the VP9 world was never the same. In all seriousness, the VP9 doesn't tolerate contaminants very well. It would've done poorly in any military trial; even HK knows that now after they went and tried implementing a heavier recoil spring with little to now improvement. 'KISS' is a sound principle, not just a name of a rock band.

As for the rest of us in the civilian world, the Veep still sells pretty well for us, though the subcompact SK variants do move faster. No surprise, since CCW-friendly models are always more popular. And as dirt-adverse as the gun's innards may be, it's still a very nice shooter for me.

Originally posted by DanH:Since we're on the "What happened" streak, what happened to the VP9? It came out to great fanfare and excitement only to get overshadowed by the Glock, M&P, and the P320. We didn't even hear from them from the FBI tests or the Army tests?

The VP9 has been excluded from several large LE and military tests because of its 15 round capacity and the paddle style mag release.

Both the DHS/ICE and FBI solicitations specifically required button style mag releases so the VP9was not tested.

The VP9 did well in the TX DPS handgun testing but lost the contract to SIG’s P320. The solicitation for the OK highway patrol testing shortly thereafter specified a 17 round capacity excluding the VP9.

Was the VP9 submitted for the Army MHS ?

HK supposedly has a version of the SFP9 (euro VP9) which has a modular mag release that can be configured as either a paddle or a button but it may have come a little too late.