"Who is going to save our Church? Not our bishops, not our priests and religious. It is up to you, the people. You have the minds, the eyes, the ears to save the Church. Your mission is to see that your priests act like priests, your bishops, like bishops, and your religious act like religious." - Archbishop Fulton J. Sheen, 1972

Monday, June 23, 2014

COMMENT OF THE DAY!

Forwarded from Diana's blog:

From "Diana's" blog:

Anonymous June 23, 2014 at 7:24 AM

Tim Rohr just announced his book he wrote about his concocted Junglewatch garbage, including illegally obtained documents, letters and other materials. If you have ever written anything here on this blog or on the Junglewatch, then your words may have been stolen and distorted in this book in order to bring Tim Rohr fame and glory among his international ilks. Very dubious kind of fame and glory... I am sure there are serious copyright and defamation issues involved here. We truly need to pray for this self-destructive sheep, who still has the audacity to call himself a "good Catholic", going astray.

MY NOTE: I never called myself a "good Catholic." Saying things I didn't say...hmmm, "copyright and defamation issues involved here." Nice to know how much they fear me.

I see conclusions without any supporting evidence. How were documents illegally obtained when they were given freely to Mr. Rohr? What words were stolen for Tim's book? Please list them. And how can you be sure that there are serious copyright and defamation issues here? It would be nice if you state the grounds for the violations. Can you?

Self-Destructive Sheep?....but who is the SHEPHERD? EH? Position on Guam is only a Title...only by name. WHO IS THE REAL SHEPHERD/ARCHBISHOP ON GUAM?Do not see him in action at all! We should all play a game...Where in the WORLD is Guam's Archbishop?

Here is my comment for the day...maybe the NCW can take over the to construction on the Lanchon Kotpus next year! No excuses! You can work on it on a Friday night and continue on Saturday morning. Plenty of time for you evening celebration. Make sure you come to church early Sunday morning to put up your statue...some parishes guard the Lanchon Kotpus all Saturday night until Sunday morning. If you can't do all three, one would be nice!

Funny that the Kiko's have a problem with me making money when Kiko has built a financial empire off of his stuff. But of course it's not funny. It's more evidence of very serious cult thinking. And such cults don't end well.

@4:01 PM. What difference does it make of atom writes a book? Kiko writes his books and so does Father Pius? So don't talk about people making money. I am sure that Father Pius can use the money that he gets from his book sales to buy himself new under wears and maybe even some left over change to get a bar of soap for a bath. Sorry guys, he looks filthy!

The fun never stops.... Oh well..!!! we already have identified the "motus operandi" of the kikos and their unquestioning servants for a long time, regarding:" denial, denial, we are being persecuted, see we told you so, the Judas did it".....and when all failed, attack the messenger!, attack the messenger!.... this is now a well established fact.

But we have a new development: The Preemptive Strike.....You can really tell Kiko learned well from his old Marxist masters......You almost feel like we are in a time warp during the cold war.Except, here, you have self proclaimed "true Catholics" (others must not be) who fight their own Catholic brothers and sisters for a twisted sense of superiority in their narrow, psychotic view of our Church.

So, what do we have today? Well, Mr. Rohr is preparing to release a book on Fr Paul's tribulations. I am sure that unless the Kikos have illegally obtained a copy of the book, they are not yet privy to its contents. (they will have to wait, and purchase one to do so....LOL)That should not stop our psycho-Kikos, of course it never does.So without knowing what is in this future book, they attack its contents, and I am sure with the help of the Holy Spirit, they have already foreseen what Mr. Rohr has written!!!"Three cheers for Captain Spalding!!!"Of course, now out of real argument, they are launching an all out attack on both Fr. Paul (the victim) and Mr. Rohr (the messenger).Frankly, why should we be surprised by how low, they are willing to go, to justify, excuse and deny?

Very interesting comment by Anonymous June 24, 2014 at 9:42 AM where this seminarian says: "Quaker Rohr now writing a book so make money out of neo and OUR seminary."

Note the reality folks. Through the AAA we the people fo Guam pay to support the seminary, but it is not an Archdiocesan seminary, but their seminary.

You just gotta love these guys' sense of pride in ownership. Their attitude is: "You pay for it, we'll use it! Oh and by the way, you don't get to see where we spend the money. We do not want you to know we squander all this money on trips home, trips to see Kiko in Manila, trips to Hawaii to visit Molokai and stare at Damian's grave."

Thank you Anon 9:42AM for affirming what we have said all along. The RMS in Yona does not belong to us, we are only expected to fund it and then be .....OBEDIENT.

LOL - we call them idiots, but look who's paying for this that crap they learn in Yona. Kinda makes you think. Remember this when the next AAA comes around.

Anonymous @ 9:42, what are you talking about?? Tim Rohr is not a Quaker. He is a devote Catholic. If he is writing a book, then why should the seminary make any money from it at all. The book is not even about you. It is about Father Paul. If Tim wants to eat breakfast at Kings, what concern is that of yours? Please go back to your remedial English class and stay out of the jungle until you can comprehend the discussions here.

I am posting the following comment for the person who submitted it with edits. Just a note, I am not willing to use the names of specific priests or seminarians when the topic turns sexual unless you can also provide validation, even though the "confession" was purported to be during a homily. I also don't permit words like sh*t and f**K, etc. So please make it easy for me and self-edit your comments or I simply cannot post them.

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No more class. Summer is here. The seminarians have more time to play in the jungle. Expect lots of fruits to shine through from Yona, mostly rotten fruits.

But no worries. Once they get their AAA money we can use AAA money to pay to have them all fly home to their real communities until they are called back to Guam for more of that scholarly stuff. But hey, if they all get Summa Cum Laude, the summer trips must be worth it.

I was at a recent baccalaureate mass where Fr **** from **** revealed that while he was on his Guam sponsored visit back to **** he did more than hang with his community. Apparently, as confessed by him during his homily, he was playing in a different jungle. But then he decided a girlfriend was too much baggage, that if he married her he would actually have to support her and him, so he decided to come back to Guam where we will take care of his every need. Money, education, someone to cook for him, someone to do his laundry, someone for every need.

Look how welcoming Guam is to these boys, and yet they *** all over us and our culture. Oh well, this is the fruit that kiko cultivates. Get used to it!

That's why I respect you Tim. The only offensive word I used in my comment was cr@&. My language is not always prim and proper, but as far as validation, the priest said this during his homily at the mass for Southern High School. I don't see anything sexual in his comments, just that he had a girlfriend. And you can have a girlfriend without having sex. He was not yet a priest but a seminarian, and he left the seminary because of it. I assume he was a perfect gentleman with her while she was his girlfriend. But then he decided to come back and he was accepted back.Not sure why you blocked out his name since there were 1200 students, parents, and family who all heard the same thing. It certainly wasn't said in confidence.Irregardless, I will refrain from foul language so you will not have to edit my future comments.

Sorry if I misunderstood. From the way I read it it seemed that he had engaged in those behaviors only recently and AFTER he was ordained. I prefer, at least at this point, not to use his name. Thank you for your understanding.

Anonymous (June 24, 2014 at 10:33 PM), while I can understand your response “Hope not AFTER!” to Tim’s misunderstanding of the revelation by “Fr. X” about his decision to return to Guam after deciding a “girlfriend was too much baggage …” please remember that it is not unheard of for priests to engage in relationships after ordination. For example:

• Fr. Albert Cutié, who was once known as “Fr. Oprah” for the relationship advice he used to give, is now an Episcopalian, married to the woman with whom he had an affair while he was a Catholic priest and she was married. He is the author of “Dilemma: A Priest’s Struggle with Faith and Love.”

• Fr. Francis Mary Stone, formerly seen on EWTN’s “Life on the Rock,” engaged in an affair with a widow and eventually left the priesthood to marry her.

• Fr. Thomas Euteneuer, prolife activist and exorcist, admitted to “violating the boundaries of chastity …” with a woman under his spiritual care.

• Fr. John Corapi, known for his personal conversion story from being rich playboy and drug addict to becoming a priest, is reported to be in a relationship with a woman and now calls himself “Black Sheep Dog.”

These are just 4 examples of celebrity priests who violated their vows of chastity — there are many more — but these are the ones that I thought of as I read your reaction. Unfortunately such things do happen AFTER ordination.

It has been mentioned that the RMS seminarians do not undergo any kind of psychological screening as is done in other seminaries. The sexually charged content of many comments — albeit “Anonymous” but often linked to seminarians — is problematic. If they are as preoccupied with sexual matters as manifested in their comments, we have a reason to be concerned and even more vigilant than we have ever been!

BTW: As I read about what “Fr. X” said in his homily during that baccalaureate Mass, I was trying to figure out if the narrative occurrd before or after ordination, so Tim’s confusion is understandable.

Aside from the timing, the reference to marriage as "too much baggage" if that's how he framed it, does not speak well of God's plan for men and women, and certainly does not become a priest, even if t was a joke...which when speaking of such things, there should never be.

This shows the concern over the evaluation of these seminarians. We diocesan priests of Guam have little way to evaluate the seminarians coming forward for ordination. Vocations from local parishes and with training at st. Patrick's along with summer pastoral placements means we come to know our perspective brother priests. This is not the case with rms. the clergy do not these men to be ordained and incardinated into the archdiocese. Worrying for the future.

This shows the concern over the evaluation of these seminarians. We diocesan priests of Guam have little way to evaluate the seminarians coming forward for ordination. Vocations from local parishes and with training at St. Patrick's along with summer pastoral placements means we come to know our prospective brother priests. This is not the case with RMS.. The clergy do not know these men who are to be ordained and incardinated into the archdiocese. Worrying for the future.

Bottom line is, these RMS priests have an obligation to the parishioners. The parishioners come first, the community comes last. It is the other way around. The community comes first all other parishioners come last.

For them accommodating NCW members for the use of the church comes first. Your scheduling for any functions cannot interfere with the community meetings or gatherings.

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