Gun control advocates argue that the proposal would effectively loosen gun control laws in tightly restricted locations such as New York City.

The bill also contained measures requiring the Department of Justice to produce to Congress a report about bump stock modifications and another that tightens National Instant Criminal Background Check System reporting requirements in the wake of last month's church shooting in Texas, perpetrated by a gunman whose prior domestic violence conviction was not reported to the system.

In the Senate, the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act will need to clear a 60-vote threshold to pass.

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MWP

2017-12-11T15:38:39

ABCNews Headline:

"Homeowner holds suspected burglar at gunpoint until police show up"

This is NOT counted as a Defensive Gun Use (DGU) by the statistics of those pushing for more gun control, their statistics are purposefully designed to minimize the numbers. Any honest assessment would certainly count this as a DGU...

Guns are used for self defense AT LEAST 100,000 TIMES per year! Which is MORE OFTEN than they are used to commit crimes, and MORE OFTEN than they take lives including all accidents and suicides!

I don't care about "tight controlled areas such as NYC"....its a person's right to own and carry firearms. It boggles my mind how anyone with a brain really thinks that because a piece of paper says not to carry/own a weapon, that people looking to break the law will abide by it. How many examples do you need really? It'd be better to have more citizens to legally carry so that when something does happen, people will be around to stop it. You won't have to wait 5-10 min for police to arrive, in which case, the situation could all be over by then and the bodies could have piled up before the police even reach the scene. So stop crying

In another study, the VPC, a left leaning gun control advocacy group states:

“The use of guns in self-defense by private citizens is extremely rare. VPC research has found a gun is far more likely to be used in a homicide or suicide than in a justifiable homicide. ... “

Notice the specific wording - limiting the comparison to only justifiable homicides paints a misleading picture. Defensive Gun Use (DGU) is a much broader scenario than described above.

First of all, normal people do not want to shoot someone much less kill them, so if presenting a firearm causes an attacker to flee, this is a legitimate DGU, but is excluded from the VPC comparison.

Secondly, even if an attacker is shot, but not killed, under the statistic above it is not counted as a DGU.

Lastly, excluding the overwhelming majority of DGU the VPC numbers are drastically deflated.

Their latest statistics, though they went to great pains to try and hide it, show there are 87,833 Defensive Gun Uses per year – a number that is much higher than the number of deaths by firearms that even includes accidents and suicides!

you can google it yourself - copy the entire section below between the quotes and paste to google - about a third of the way down on page 7 of their report you'll find:

"Using the NCVS numbers, for the three-year period 2012 through 2014, the total number of self-protective behaviors involving a firearm by victims of attempted or completed violent crimes or property crimes totaled only 263,500."

263,500 - divided / 3 years = 87,833 per year on average. Even liberal people advocating FOR more gun control show statistics much higher DGU than most want to believe.

"Gun control advocates argue that the proposal would effectively loosen gun control laws in tightly restricted locations such as New York City."

To get a CCW you have to be a resident of the issuing jurisdiction, pass a background check, and successfully complete a firearms course, so people for New York aren't going to be flocking into other states to have a CCW. Given that NYC and Chicago have strict firearms control and yet have thousands of shootings and homicides, how will this (other than allowing law-abiding citizens easier access to firearms for self-defense) change anything?