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The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw

DAVID Cameron's statement that the UK is a ‘Christian country’ has been backed by East Lancashire politicians and religious leaders.

Responding to claims that his public comment was ‘divisive’, MPs Jack Straw and Gordon Birtwistle, Lancashire Council of Mosques chairman Abdul Hamid Qureshi and Archdeacon of Blackburn, John Hawley said it was true.

Writing for the Church Times, the Prime Minister said British people should ‘be more confident about our status as a Christian country’.

Mr Qureshi said: “It is a largely Christian country in terms of heritage. We have no problem with this or Mr Cameron being a Christian.

“Muslims share many basic value with Christians and we do not think it is divisive.”

Blackburn Labour MP Mr Straw, a regular churchgoer, said: “Historically and culturally, this is a Christian country and people who live here need to understand that history and culture.

“It’s not people of other faiths who object to this but militant atheists.

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“However, I believe it is better for politicians not to wear their Christianity on their sleeves but if they are asked they have to give an honest answer.

“I don’t think it will have any effect at all.”

Archdeacon Hawley said: “Whether or not it is a cynical political ploy to raise the Christian profile by David Cameron, it is good to hear our Prime Minister speak up for the Christian church when the voices of secularism are constantly trying to undermine and marginalise the voice of the church.

“Certainly, it seems to me that our national heritage is one that has been forged and shaped by a strong attachment to the Christian Faith since the seventh Century and earlier. The Christian voice has a legitimacy to be heard as any other.”

Burnley Liberal Democrat MP Mr Birtwistle said: “The Prime Minister is absolutely right to say this is a Christian county and he is a Christian.

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Excluded again
10:08am Thu 24 Apr 14

Christianity shaped Britain's history and heritage but Britain is no longer a Christian country. Britain is a secular country in which people can follow whatever religion they want or no religion at all. Laws which reflect Christian doctrines are rapidly disappearing. Laws are made on the basis of debate and evidence, not what a book written two thousand years ago and more says should be the law.

For centuries we had a state religion where people were forced to worship as the state demanded. Most of our ancestors, wisely, came to realise this was awful and worked over centuries to change it. That work continues to this day - to create a society where people are free to believe what they want and live as they want without the state imposing a set of beliefs on them.

Christianity shaped Britain's history and heritage but Britain is no longer a Christian country. Britain is a secular country in which people can follow whatever religion they want or no religion at all. Laws which reflect Christian doctrines are rapidly disappearing. Laws are made on the basis of debate and evidence, not what a book written two thousand years ago and more says should be the law.
For centuries we had a state religion where people were forced to worship as the state demanded. Most of our ancestors, wisely, came to realise this was awful and worked over centuries to change it. That work continues to this day - to create a society where people are free to believe what they want and live as they want without the state imposing a set of beliefs on them.Excluded again

Christianity shaped Britain's history and heritage but Britain is no longer a Christian country. Britain is a secular country in which people can follow whatever religion they want or no religion at all. Laws which reflect Christian doctrines are rapidly disappearing. Laws are made on the basis of debate and evidence, not what a book written two thousand years ago and more says should be the law.

For centuries we had a state religion where people were forced to worship as the state demanded. Most of our ancestors, wisely, came to realise this was awful and worked over centuries to change it. That work continues to this day - to create a society where people are free to believe what they want and live as they want without the state imposing a set of beliefs on them.

Score: 20

Graham Hartley
10:26am Thu 24 Apr 14

Who will save us from the militant Christian? Lebanon is the place to visit for a holiday, if one can ignore history.

Who will save us from the militant Christian? Lebanon is the place to visit for a holiday, if one can ignore history.Graham Hartley

Who will save us from the militant Christian? Lebanon is the place to visit for a holiday, if one can ignore history.

Score: -10

Izanears
10:34am Thu 24 Apr 14

I cannot entirely agree Excluded but you certainly have made some good points. In the past when Monks and Clerics were the only people who could read and write they held great power over those who could not and their word was law so to speak. . Then at the time of the landed gentry with the big estates, churchgoing was a must for the estate workers and their families.
When war came people turned to the church for succour and salvation.
As time went on and they became educated and were not beholden to the Monks, and the lord of the manor they began (rightly so) to question the churches teaching and its rituals and ceremonies. But no matter what one thinks about religion, you cannot get away from the fact that the ten commandments form a good basis for life and living.

I cannot entirely agree Excluded but you certainly have made some good points. In the past when Monks and Clerics were the only people who could read and write they held great power over those who could not and their word was law so to speak. . Then at the time of the landed gentry with the big estates, churchgoing was a must for the estate workers and their families.
When war came people turned to the church for succour and salvation.
As time went on and they became educated and were not beholden to the Monks, and the lord of the manor they began (rightly so) to question the churches teaching and its rituals and ceremonies. But no matter what one thinks about religion, you cannot get away from the fact that the ten commandments form a good basis for life and living.Izanears

I cannot entirely agree Excluded but you certainly have made some good points. In the past when Monks and Clerics were the only people who could read and write they held great power over those who could not and their word was law so to speak. . Then at the time of the landed gentry with the big estates, churchgoing was a must for the estate workers and their families.
When war came people turned to the church for succour and salvation.
As time went on and they became educated and were not beholden to the Monks, and the lord of the manor they began (rightly so) to question the churches teaching and its rituals and ceremonies. But no matter what one thinks about religion, you cannot get away from the fact that the ten commandments form a good basis for life and living.

Score: 11

Excluded again
10:39am Thu 24 Apr 14

Izaneers, the first five of the ten commandments are irrelevant to how I and most people in Britain live today.

The second five (don't kill, steal, be unfaithful or lie and be good to your mum and dad) are quite sensible. So much so that you will find very few systems of ethics - whether religious or not - that don't repeat them. You certainly don't need to be a Christian to live by these five principles.

Izaneers, the first five of the ten commandments are irrelevant to how I and most people in Britain live today.
The second five (don't kill, steal, be unfaithful or lie and be good to your mum and dad) are quite sensible. So much so that you will find very few systems of ethics - whether religious or not - that don't repeat them. You certainly don't need to be a Christian to live by these five principles.Excluded again

Izaneers, the first five of the ten commandments are irrelevant to how I and most people in Britain live today.

The second five (don't kill, steal, be unfaithful or lie and be good to your mum and dad) are quite sensible. So much so that you will find very few systems of ethics - whether religious or not - that don't repeat them. You certainly don't need to be a Christian to live by these five principles.

Score: 21

AnthonyUK
11:19am Thu 24 Apr 14

The UK is a christian country and it swears NO allegiance to Islam or Allah or the prophet Mohammed;that's how it should stay too.

The UK is a christian country and it swears NO allegiance to Islam or Allah or the prophet Mohammed;that's how it should stay too.AnthonyUK

The UK is a christian country and it swears NO allegiance to Islam or Allah or the prophet Mohammed;that's how it should stay too.

Score: 30

Reality50
11:24am Thu 24 Apr 14

Blackburn is no longer a Christian town thanks to Straw and the Labour Party. The Islamic population of the town is now 30% and growing rapidly. In 20 years,Blackburn will be majority Muslim at current birthrate levels. Once that happens it will be time to turn the lights out.

Blackburn is no longer a Christian town thanks to Straw and the Labour Party. The Islamic population of the town is now 30% and growing rapidly. In 20 years,Blackburn will be majority Muslim at current birthrate levels. Once that happens it will be time to turn the lights out.Reality50

Blackburn is no longer a Christian town thanks to Straw and the Labour Party. The Islamic population of the town is now 30% and growing rapidly. In 20 years,Blackburn will be majority Muslim at current birthrate levels. Once that happens it will be time to turn the lights out.

Score: 50

AndyD123
11:47am Thu 24 Apr 14

Religion is something we really need to leave behind if we are to progress as a species. Anyone who can read the bible (or Koran) and think that its teachings are moral is someone you want to be wary of. The "you're interpreting it wrong" argument gets a little weak after a while.

Religion is something we really need to leave behind if we are to progress as a species. Anyone who can read the bible (or Koran) and think that its teachings are moral is someone you want to be wary of. The "you're interpreting it wrong" argument gets a little weak after a while.AndyD123

Religion is something we really need to leave behind if we are to progress as a species. Anyone who can read the bible (or Koran) and think that its teachings are moral is someone you want to be wary of. The "you're interpreting it wrong" argument gets a little weak after a while.

Score: 27

fkhan
1:05pm Thu 24 Apr 14

I do hope Jack Straw is a practising Christian then maybe one day he can explain to GOD his reasons for justifying the killings of 10s and 100s of innocent children in Iraq.....

I do hope Jack Straw is a practising Christian then maybe one day he can explain to GOD his reasons for justifying the killings of 10s and 100s of innocent children in Iraq.....fkhan

I do hope Jack Straw is a practising Christian then maybe one day he can explain to GOD his reasons for justifying the killings of 10s and 100s of innocent children in Iraq.....

Score: -13

noddy57
1:16pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Mr Straw, we know the UK is a Christian Country ,,,but for how long ? the way things are going we will be the minority faith within the next 50 years if not less,there is no getting away from it,l have no problem with other faiths but l do with Extremism . We must eradicate these negative forces from religion and enable the true followers of their faiths to live together in peace for the good of everyone.

Mr Straw, we know the UK is a Christian Country ,,,but for how long ? the way things are going we will be the minority faith within the next 50 years if not less,there is no getting away from it,l have no problem with other faiths but l do with Extremism . We must eradicate these negative forces from religion and enable the true followers of their faiths to live together in peace for the good of everyone.noddy57

Mr Straw, we know the UK is a Christian Country ,,,but for how long ? the way things are going we will be the minority faith within the next 50 years if not less,there is no getting away from it,l have no problem with other faiths but l do with Extremism . We must eradicate these negative forces from religion and enable the true followers of their faiths to live together in peace for the good of everyone.

Score: 14

Excluded again
1:35pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Noddy 57 is right but for the wrong reasons. By far the fastest growing 'faith' in the UK is no faith at all. By the time of the next census, it will probably be the majority position and Christianity will officially be a minority faith. Especially if the government does not ask a loaded question in the next census which encouraged people to list a religion even if they no longer practised it.

Noddy 57 is right but for the wrong reasons. By far the fastest growing 'faith' in the UK is no faith at all. By the time of the next census, it will probably be the majority position and Christianity will officially be a minority faith. Especially if the government does not ask a loaded question in the next census which encouraged people to list a religion even if they no longer practised it.Excluded again

Noddy 57 is right but for the wrong reasons. By far the fastest growing 'faith' in the UK is no faith at all. By the time of the next census, it will probably be the majority position and Christianity will officially be a minority faith. Especially if the government does not ask a loaded question in the next census which encouraged people to list a religion even if they no longer practised it.

Score: 18

abetterblackburn
2:37pm Thu 24 Apr 14

“The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw”

Living somewhere in the south of England what Jack Straw is saying may possibly be true but here in Blackburn it’s now become a completely different story. While residing in his safe seat in Blackburn is the only reason that the extreme faith tendencies have developed here in Blackburn!

“The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw”
Living somewhere in the south of England what Jack Straw is saying may possibly be true but here in Blackburn it’s now become a completely different story. While residing in his safe seat in Blackburn is the only reason that the extreme faith tendencies have developed here in Blackburn!abetterblackburn

“The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw”

Living somewhere in the south of England what Jack Straw is saying may possibly be true but here in Blackburn it’s now become a completely different story. While residing in his safe seat in Blackburn is the only reason that the extreme faith tendencies have developed here in Blackburn!

Score: 17

ConcernedOssy
2:52pm Thu 24 Apr 14

abetterblackburn wrote…

“The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw”

Living somewhere in the south of England what Jack Straw is saying may possibly be true but here in Blackburn it’s now become a completely different story. While residing in his safe seat in Blackburn is the only reason that the extreme faith tendencies have developed here in Blackburn!

IS he Jewish or Muslim

[quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote:
“The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw”
Living somewhere in the south of England what Jack Straw is saying may possibly be true but here in Blackburn it’s now become a completely different story. While residing in his safe seat in Blackburn is the only reason that the extreme faith tendencies have developed here in Blackburn![/p][/quote]IS he Jewish or MuslimConcernedOssy

abetterblackburn wrote…

“The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw”

Living somewhere in the south of England what Jack Straw is saying may possibly be true but here in Blackburn it’s now become a completely different story. While residing in his safe seat in Blackburn is the only reason that the extreme faith tendencies have developed here in Blackburn!

IS he Jewish or Muslim

Score: 12

abetterblackburn
3:05pm Thu 24 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy wrote…

abetterblackburn wrote…

“The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw”

Living somewhere in the south of England what Jack Straw is saying may possibly be true but here in Blackburn it’s now become a completely different story. While residing in his safe seat in Blackburn is the only reason that the extreme faith tendencies have developed here in Blackburn!

IS he Jewish or Muslim

Not sure ConcernedOssy?

[quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote:
“The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw”
Living somewhere in the south of England what Jack Straw is saying may possibly be true but here in Blackburn it’s now become a completely different story. While residing in his safe seat in Blackburn is the only reason that the extreme faith tendencies have developed here in Blackburn![/p][/quote]IS he Jewish or Muslim[/p][/quote]Not sure ConcernedOssy?abetterblackburn

ConcernedOssy wrote…

abetterblackburn wrote…

“The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw”

Living somewhere in the south of England what Jack Straw is saying may possibly be true but here in Blackburn it’s now become a completely different story. While residing in his safe seat in Blackburn is the only reason that the extreme faith tendencies have developed here in Blackburn!

IS he Jewish or Muslim

Not sure ConcernedOssy?

Score: 6

Noiticer
3:10pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Religion of all types exist merely as a means of controlling the masses hence all the petty rules about eating fish on a Friday and covering one's body. These rules are usually devised by men and usually affect women detrimentally. Religious conflict has caused millions of deaths over the centuries and continues to do so. A sensible set of basic ethical guiding principles can be devised without any religious input. Not being religious and not having to worry about religious rules is liberating.

Religion of all types exist merely as a means of controlling the masses hence all the petty rules about eating fish on a Friday and covering one's body. These rules are usually devised by men and usually affect women detrimentally. Religious conflict has caused millions of deaths over the centuries and continues to do so. A sensible set of basic ethical guiding principles can be devised without any religious input. Not being religious and not having to worry about religious rules is liberating.Noiticer

Religion of all types exist merely as a means of controlling the masses hence all the petty rules about eating fish on a Friday and covering one's body. These rules are usually devised by men and usually affect women detrimentally. Religious conflict has caused millions of deaths over the centuries and continues to do so. A sensible set of basic ethical guiding principles can be devised without any religious input. Not being religious and not having to worry about religious rules is liberating.

Score: 26

ConcernedOssy
4:47pm Thu 24 Apr 14

ConcernedOssy wrote…

abetterblackburn wrote…

“The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw”

Living somewhere in the south of England what Jack Straw is saying may possibly be true but here in Blackburn it’s now become a completely different story. While residing in his safe seat in Blackburn is the only reason that the extreme faith tendencies have developed here in Blackburn!

IS he Jewish or Muslim

He doesn"t look much like christian though and is adept at convincing others he is helping

[quote][p][bold]ConcernedOssy[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]abetterblackburn[/bold] wrote:
“The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw”
Living somewhere in the south of England what Jack Straw is saying may possibly be true but here in Blackburn it’s now become a completely different story. While residing in his safe seat in Blackburn is the only reason that the extreme faith tendencies have developed here in Blackburn![/p][/quote]IS he Jewish or Muslim[/p][/quote]He doesn"t look much like christian though and is adept at convincing others he is helpingConcernedOssy

ConcernedOssy wrote…

abetterblackburn wrote…

“The UK is a Christian country, says Blackburn MP Jack Straw”

Living somewhere in the south of England what Jack Straw is saying may possibly be true but here in Blackburn it’s now become a completely different story. While residing in his safe seat in Blackburn is the only reason that the extreme faith tendencies have developed here in Blackburn!

IS he Jewish or Muslim

He doesn"t look much like christian though and is adept at convincing others he is helping

Score: 9

POW WOW
4:49pm Thu 24 Apr 14

But he can no longer stand proud and say that his constituency Blackburn is a christian town.

But he can no longer stand proud and say that his constituency Blackburn is a christian town.POW WOW

But he can no longer stand proud and say that his constituency Blackburn is a christian town.

Score: 21

moxhie
5:01pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Like many in this country I am a Christian who attends a Christian church at least once weekly .

However it is theologigal and linguistic nonsense to speak of a country as being Christian .

A Christian is a disciple of Jesus Christ , and only a human person can be Christian .

An abstract concept such as a country can be no more Christian than my dog can be Christian .

A country can a have a majority of its citizens attending a Christian church , but that does not make the country Christian .

Like many in this country I am a Christian who attends a Christian church at least once weekly .
However it is theologigal and linguistic nonsense to speak of a country as being Christian .
A Christian is a disciple of Jesus Christ , and only a human person can be Christian .
An abstract concept such as a country can be no more Christian than my dog can be Christian .
A country can a have a majority of its citizens attending a Christian church , but that does not make the country Christian .moxhie

Like many in this country I am a Christian who attends a Christian church at least once weekly .

However it is theologigal and linguistic nonsense to speak of a country as being Christian .

A Christian is a disciple of Jesus Christ , and only a human person can be Christian .

An abstract concept such as a country can be no more Christian than my dog can be Christian .

A country can a have a majority of its citizens attending a Christian church , but that does not make the country Christian .

Score: 9

ikap22
6:21pm Thu 24 Apr 14

moxhie wrote…

Like many in this country I am a Christian who attends a Christian church at least once weekly .

However it is theologigal and linguistic nonsense to speak of a country as being Christian .

A Christian is a disciple of Jesus Christ , and only a human person can be Christian .

An abstract concept such as a country can be no more Christian than my dog can be Christian .

A country can a have a majority of its citizens attending a Christian church , but that does not make the country Christian .

Well said.☺

[quote][p][bold]moxhie[/bold] wrote:
Like many in this country I am a Christian who attends a Christian church at least once weekly .
However it is theologigal and linguistic nonsense to speak of a country as being Christian .
A Christian is a disciple of Jesus Christ , and only a human person can be Christian .
An abstract concept such as a country can be no more Christian than my dog can be Christian .
A country can a have a majority of its citizens attending a Christian church , but that does not make the country Christian .[/p][/quote]Well said.☺ikap22

moxhie wrote…

Like many in this country I am a Christian who attends a Christian church at least once weekly .

However it is theologigal and linguistic nonsense to speak of a country as being Christian .

A Christian is a disciple of Jesus Christ , and only a human person can be Christian .

An abstract concept such as a country can be no more Christian than my dog can be Christian .

A country can a have a majority of its citizens attending a Christian church , but that does not make the country Christian .

Well said.☺

Score: 6

Openminded?
6:32pm Thu 24 Apr 14

noddy57 wrote…

Mr Straw, we know the UK is a Christian Country ,,,but for how long ? the way things are going we will be the minority faith within the next 50 years if not less,there is no getting away from it,l have no problem with other faiths but l do with Extremism . We must eradicate these negative forces from religion and enable the true followers of their faiths to live together in peace for the good of everyone.

Yes Christianity may become the minority faith in next 50 years, but who are you going to blame for that? It is something that cannot be helped!

[quote][p][bold]noddy57[/bold] wrote:
Mr Straw, we know the UK is a Christian Country ,,,but for how long ? the way things are going we will be the minority faith within the next 50 years if not less,there is no getting away from it,l have no problem with other faiths but l do with Extremism . We must eradicate these negative forces from religion and enable the true followers of their faiths to live together in peace for the good of everyone.[/p][/quote]Yes Christianity may become the minority faith in next 50 years, but who are you going to blame for that? It is something that cannot be helped!Openminded?

noddy57 wrote…

Mr Straw, we know the UK is a Christian Country ,,,but for how long ? the way things are going we will be the minority faith within the next 50 years if not less,there is no getting away from it,l have no problem with other faiths but l do with Extremism . We must eradicate these negative forces from religion and enable the true followers of their faiths to live together in peace for the good of everyone.

Yes Christianity may become the minority faith in next 50 years, but who are you going to blame for that? It is something that cannot be helped!

Score: 3

mmickk
6:47pm Thu 24 Apr 14

You would not think so with that calling to prayer that keeps polluting Blackburn its a disgrace that these mosques deliberately break the law with no respect for others. You do not have planning permission yet the council do nothing it sounds like your fisting each other over a loud speaker. Time it was stopped.

You would not think so with that calling to prayer that keeps polluting Blackburn its a disgrace that these mosques deliberately break the law with no respect for others. You do not have planning permission yet the council do nothing it sounds like your fisting each other over a loud speaker. Time it was stopped.mmickk

You would not think so with that calling to prayer that keeps polluting Blackburn its a disgrace that these mosques deliberately break the law with no respect for others. You do not have planning permission yet the council do nothing it sounds like your fisting each other over a loud speaker. Time it was stopped.

Score: 25

wilddog
7:33pm Thu 24 Apr 14

mmickk wrote…

You would not think so with that calling to prayer that keeps polluting Blackburn its a disgrace that these mosques deliberately break the law with no respect for others. You do not have planning permission yet the council do nothing it sounds like your fisting each other over a loud speaker. Time it was stopped.

then people need to get together and pester the powers that be to do something about it

[quote][p][bold]mmickk[/bold] wrote:
You would not think so with that calling to prayer that keeps polluting Blackburn its a disgrace that these mosques deliberately break the law with no respect for others. You do not have planning permission yet the council do nothing it sounds like your fisting each other over a loud speaker. Time it was stopped.[/p][/quote]then people need to get together and pester the powers that be to do something about itwilddog

mmickk wrote…

You would not think so with that calling to prayer that keeps polluting Blackburn its a disgrace that these mosques deliberately break the law with no respect for others. You do not have planning permission yet the council do nothing it sounds like your fisting each other over a loud speaker. Time it was stopped.

then people need to get together and pester the powers that be to do something about it

Score: 17

wilddog
7:39pm Thu 24 Apr 14

fkhan wrote…

I do hope Jack Straw is a practising Christian then maybe one day he can explain to GOD his reasons for justifying the killings of 10s and 100s of innocent children in Iraq.....

how does that work? same would therefore apply to anyone to do with 9/11 or the killing of the British soldiers who defend innocent people in Iraq. Your statement makes my blood boil.

[quote][p][bold]fkhan[/bold] wrote:
I do hope Jack Straw is a practising Christian then maybe one day he can explain to GOD his reasons for justifying the killings of 10s and 100s of innocent children in Iraq.....[/p][/quote]how does that work? same would therefore apply to anyone to do with 9/11 or the killing of the British soldiers who defend innocent people in Iraq. Your statement makes my blood boil.wilddog

fkhan wrote…

I do hope Jack Straw is a practising Christian then maybe one day he can explain to GOD his reasons for justifying the killings of 10s and 100s of innocent children in Iraq.....

how does that work? same would therefore apply to anyone to do with 9/11 or the killing of the British soldiers who defend innocent people in Iraq. Your statement makes my blood boil.

Score: 5

Graham Hartley
7:42pm Thu 24 Apr 14

I like it, mox, but for

"A Christian is a disciple of Jesus Christ , and only a human person can be Christian."

Can't they also be Christians who are non-human persons clinging to rocks yet unfamiliar to humans? Jesus will know them well enough via His Father to visit them (in disguise, perhaps), and might already have died for them.

I like it, mox, but for
"A Christian is a disciple of Jesus Christ , and only a human person can be Christian."
Can't they also be Christians who are non-human persons clinging to rocks yet unfamiliar to humans? Jesus will know them well enough via His Father to visit them (in disguise, perhaps), and might already have died for them.Graham Hartley

I like it, mox, but for

"A Christian is a disciple of Jesus Christ , and only a human person can be Christian."

Can't they also be Christians who are non-human persons clinging to rocks yet unfamiliar to humans? Jesus will know them well enough via His Father to visit them (in disguise, perhaps), and might already have died for them.

Score: -5

Graham Hartley
7:45pm Thu 24 Apr 14

The web-editor's hammer will fall 'ere long, innit.

The web-editor's hammer will fall 'ere long, innit.Graham Hartley

The web-editor's hammer will fall 'ere long, innit.

Score: 8

Saj143
7:56pm Thu 24 Apr 14

I think in the interest of fairness , the LET should explain why when over the last few days sex crimes committed by 'natives' , drunks skipping red lights , dodgy 'guilty' head teachers convicted of again indecent acts , not allow any comments. Guaranteed if these were immigrants of whatever race , colour or religion the LET would have had a comments section.

Over to you LET.

I think in the interest of fairness , the LET should explain why when over the last few days sex crimes committed by 'natives' , drunks skipping red lights , dodgy 'guilty' head teachers convicted of again indecent acts , not allow any comments. Guaranteed if these were immigrants of whatever race , colour or religion the LET would have had a comments section.
Over to you LET.Saj143

I think in the interest of fairness , the LET should explain why when over the last few days sex crimes committed by 'natives' , drunks skipping red lights , dodgy 'guilty' head teachers convicted of again indecent acts , not allow any comments. Guaranteed if these were immigrants of whatever race , colour or religion the LET would have had a comments section.

Over to you LET.

Score: -12

Biscay
9:45pm Thu 24 Apr 14

"Blackburn Labour MP Mr Straw, a regular churchgoer, said: “Historically and culturally, this is a Christian country and people who live here need to understand that history and culture"

Its rather ironic that Mr Straw comes out with this statement when he and successive governments appear to have done their best to undermine Christian culture and history across the country and in particular Blackburn by their policies of enforced multiculturalism and uncontrolled mass immigration over the last 30 years.

"Blackburn Labour MP Mr Straw, a regular churchgoer, said: “Historically and culturally, this is a Christian country and people who live here need to understand that history and culture"
Its rather ironic that Mr Straw comes out with this statement when he and successive governments appear to have done their best to undermine Christian culture and history across the country and in particular Blackburn by their policies of enforced multiculturalism and uncontrolled mass immigration over the last 30 years.Biscay

"Blackburn Labour MP Mr Straw, a regular churchgoer, said: “Historically and culturally, this is a Christian country and people who live here need to understand that history and culture"

Its rather ironic that Mr Straw comes out with this statement when he and successive governments appear to have done their best to undermine Christian culture and history across the country and in particular Blackburn by their policies of enforced multiculturalism and uncontrolled mass immigration over the last 30 years.

Score: 14

elmo maniac
10:15pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Correction. This was a Christian country. Our churches are being pulled down. Our schools are being taken over.. our food is to suit one religion and not all. :p

Correction. This was a Christian country. Our churches are being pulled down. Our schools are being taken over.. our food is to suit one religion and not all. :pelmo maniac

Correction. This was a Christian country. Our churches are being pulled down. Our schools are being taken over.. our food is to suit one religion and not all. :p

Score: 11

Malthus
10:43pm Thu 24 Apr 14

I am certain that Jack Straw will not retire to Blackburn. In my opinion he will live out his days in quiet seclusion in the Cotswolds or some similar area. What will happen in Blackburn will not affect him nor will he lose sleep over it. You used us all Jack, now enjoy your retirement.

I am certain that Jack Straw will not retire to Blackburn. In my opinion he will live out his days in quiet seclusion in the Cotswolds or some similar area. What will happen in Blackburn will not affect him nor will he lose sleep over it. You used us all Jack, now enjoy your retirement.Malthus

I am certain that Jack Straw will not retire to Blackburn. In my opinion he will live out his days in quiet seclusion in the Cotswolds or some similar area. What will happen in Blackburn will not affect him nor will he lose sleep over it. You used us all Jack, now enjoy your retirement.

Score: 11

netherlandsexpat
10:49pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Christianity ended last year when the local spar opened up on Christmas day!

Christianity ended last year when the local spar opened up on Christmas day!netherlandsexpat

Christianity ended last year when the local spar opened up on Christmas day!

Score: 10

ConcernedOssy
10:49pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Malthus wrote…

I am certain that Jack Straw will not retire to Blackburn. In my opinion he will live out his days in quiet seclusion in the Cotswolds or some similar area. What will happen in Blackburn will not affect him nor will he lose sleep over it. You used us all Jack, now enjoy your retirement.

And I think the majority of Blackburnians will not lose any sleep over him. (Can't see him having a state funeral in Corporation Park if it's still there when the time comes.) Doubt it though and what happens to him will have no effect them either BUT THEN i would think Hollern might give a few sleepless night even if they only see her picture !!! LOL

[quote][p][bold]Malthus[/bold] wrote:
I am certain that Jack Straw will not retire to Blackburn. In my opinion he will live out his days in quiet seclusion in the Cotswolds or some similar area. What will happen in Blackburn will not affect him nor will he lose sleep over it. You used us all Jack, now enjoy your retirement.[/p][/quote]And I think the majority of Blackburnians will not lose any sleep over him. (Can't see him having a state funeral in Corporation Park if it's still there when the time comes.) Doubt it though and what happens to him will have no effect them either BUT THEN i would think Hollern might give a few sleepless night even if they only see her picture !!! LOLConcernedOssy

Malthus wrote…

I am certain that Jack Straw will not retire to Blackburn. In my opinion he will live out his days in quiet seclusion in the Cotswolds or some similar area. What will happen in Blackburn will not affect him nor will he lose sleep over it. You used us all Jack, now enjoy your retirement.

And I think the majority of Blackburnians will not lose any sleep over him. (Can't see him having a state funeral in Corporation Park if it's still there when the time comes.) Doubt it though and what happens to him will have no effect them either BUT THEN i would think Hollern might give a few sleepless night even if they only see her picture !!! LOL

Score: 9

Steven Seagull
11:10pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Religion = the single biggest cause of most problems relating to living in harmony in the world.

Religion = the single biggest cause of most problems relating to living in harmony in the world.Steven Seagull

Religion = the single biggest cause of most problems relating to living in harmony in the world.

Score: 18

shirtbox
11:11pm Thu 24 Apr 14

Straw is just after a Lordship,the crawly bum licker.

Straw is just after a Lordship,the crawly bum licker.shirtbox

Straw is just after a Lordship,the crawly bum licker.

Score: 10

ConcernedOssy
11:26pm Thu 24 Apr 14

shirtbox wrote…

Straw is just after a Lordship,the crawly bum licker.

He Better see Evans Then, I heard he's,well versed!!! LOL

[quote][p][bold]shirtbox[/bold] wrote:
Straw is just after a Lordship,the crawly bum licker.[/p][/quote]He Better see Evans Then, I heard he's,well versed!!! LOLConcernedOssy

shirtbox wrote…

Straw is just after a Lordship,the crawly bum licker.

He Better see Evans Then, I heard he's,well versed!!! LOL

Score: 6

fannystrim
1:41am Fri 25 Apr 14

about time somebody spoke out on this

about time somebody spoke out on thisfannystrim

about time somebody spoke out on this

Score: 8

Carl_24
6:44am Fri 25 Apr 14

If the UK is a ‘Christian country’ then why are Christian church's being knocked down and mosques being build in their place?
Take for example that beautiful church that use to be on Audley Range and got knocked down round about 2007 and now a mosque is in it's place it's a disgrace there's far too many of them in Blackburn and not enough church's.

If the UK is a ‘Christian country’ then why are Christian church's being knocked down and mosques being build in their place?
Take for example that beautiful church that use to be on Audley Range and got knocked down round about 2007 and now a mosque is in it's place it's a disgrace there's far too many of them in Blackburn and not enough church's.Carl_24

If the UK is a ‘Christian country’ then why are Christian church's being knocked down and mosques being build in their place?
Take for example that beautiful church that use to be on Audley Range and got knocked down round about 2007 and now a mosque is in it's place it's a disgrace there's far too many of them in Blackburn and not enough church's.

Score: 15

Mikeee47
9:43am Fri 25 Apr 14

I cant believe what I reading? All the above comments about not being a Christian country, you should be ashamed,
are you happy for Britain to become islamified in the next 15 - 20 yrs?
Well im not.
You'll have a mosque on every corner wailing at you at 5 in the morning.
if what I said makes me racist so be it, Ive had enough,
This country is RACIST to the British white man woman & child

I cant believe what I reading? All the above comments about not being a Christian country, you should be ashamed,
are you happy for Britain to become islamified in the next 15 - 20 yrs?
Well im not.
You'll have a mosque on every corner wailing at you at 5 in the morning.
if what I said makes me racist so be it, Ive had enough,
This country is RACIST to the British white man woman & childMikeee47

I cant believe what I reading? All the above comments about not being a Christian country, you should be ashamed,
are you happy for Britain to become islamified in the next 15 - 20 yrs?
Well im not.
You'll have a mosque on every corner wailing at you at 5 in the morning.
if what I said makes me racist so be it, Ive had enough,
This country is RACIST to the British white man woman & child

Score: 12

Mikeee47
9:48am Fri 25 Apr 14

fkhan wrote…

I do hope Jack Straw is a practising Christian then maybe one day he can explain to GOD his reasons for justifying the killings of 10s and 100s of innocent children in Iraq.....

war is what it is, the germans killed 1000s of women & children here as we did there do we hold a grudge after all this time? NO. move on
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim, makes you think
what does it say in the Quran about killing????? need I say more??

[quote][p][bold]fkhan[/bold] wrote:
I do hope Jack Straw is a practising Christian then maybe one day he can explain to GOD his reasons for justifying the killings of 10s and 100s of innocent children in Iraq.....[/p][/quote]war is what it is, the germans killed 1000s of women & children here as we did there do we hold a grudge after all this time? NO. move on
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim, makes you think
what does it say in the Quran about killing????? need I say more??Mikeee47

fkhan wrote…

I do hope Jack Straw is a practising Christian then maybe one day he can explain to GOD his reasons for justifying the killings of 10s and 100s of innocent children in Iraq.....

war is what it is, the germans killed 1000s of women & children here as we did there do we hold a grudge after all this time? NO. move on
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim, makes you think
what does it say in the Quran about killing????? need I say more??

Score: 11

Excluded again
2:34pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Mikeee47 wrote…

I cant believe what I reading? All the above comments about not being a Christian country, you should be ashamed,
are you happy for Britain to become islamified in the next 15 - 20 yrs?
Well im not.
You'll have a mosque on every corner wailing at you at 5 in the morning.
if what I said makes me racist so be it, Ive had enough,
This country is RACIST to the British white man woman & child

No. I am happy for Britain to become more and more secular. The number of people with no religion is growing much faster than the number of Muslims. There is not a snowball's chance in hell of Britain becoming a Muslim country.

[quote][p][bold]Mikeee47[/bold] wrote:
I cant believe what I reading? All the above comments about not being a Christian country, you should be ashamed,
are you happy for Britain to become islamified in the next 15 - 20 yrs?
Well im not.
You'll have a mosque on every corner wailing at you at 5 in the morning.
if what I said makes me racist so be it, Ive had enough,
This country is RACIST to the British white man woman & child[/p][/quote]No. I am happy for Britain to become more and more secular. The number of people with no religion is growing much faster than the number of Muslims. There is not a snowball's chance in hell of Britain becoming a Muslim country.Excluded again

Mikeee47 wrote…

I cant believe what I reading? All the above comments about not being a Christian country, you should be ashamed,
are you happy for Britain to become islamified in the next 15 - 20 yrs?
Well im not.
You'll have a mosque on every corner wailing at you at 5 in the morning.
if what I said makes me racist so be it, Ive had enough,
This country is RACIST to the British white man woman & child

No. I am happy for Britain to become more and more secular. The number of people with no religion is growing much faster than the number of Muslims. There is not a snowball's chance in hell of Britain becoming a Muslim country.

Score: 0

drunken donut
2:57pm Fri 25 Apr 14

I dislike the Muslim religion intensely, it preaches hatred, but that doesn't mean I'm racist because Islam is not a race it is the worshiping of an imaginary deity, as are all religions.

I dislike the Muslim religion intensely, it preaches hatred, but that doesn't mean I'm racist because Islam is not a race it is the worshiping of an imaginary deity, as are all religions.drunken donut

I dislike the Muslim religion intensely, it preaches hatred, but that doesn't mean I'm racist because Islam is not a race it is the worshiping of an imaginary deity, as are all religions.

Score: 22

Pendle Bill
6:06pm Fri 25 Apr 14

This country's historic heritage is most certainly Christian. The Christian faith has led to some of the greatest advances in civilisation, not only here in Britain but throughout the world. That much is undeniably true. BUT. The vast, overwhelming majority of the British public, whether white, brown, black or green with yellow spots, are not Christians. By definition, a Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ. Those who follow him will (at least try to) act as he acted, and to live their lives in accordance with his teachings as recorded in the New Testament. If the true Christians do this, they have nothing to fear from those around them who may believe differently. Carry on as you are, be examples to those around you, my Christian friends.

This country's historic heritage is most certainly Christian. The Christian faith has led to some of the greatest advances in civilisation, not only here in Britain but throughout the world. That much is undeniably true. BUT. The vast, overwhelming majority of the British public, whether white, brown, black or green with yellow spots, are not Christians. By definition, a Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ. Those who follow him will (at least try to) act as he acted, and to live their lives in accordance with his teachings as recorded in the New Testament. If the true Christians do this, they have nothing to fear from those around them who may believe differently. Carry on as you are, be examples to those around you, my Christian friends.Pendle Bill

This country's historic heritage is most certainly Christian. The Christian faith has led to some of the greatest advances in civilisation, not only here in Britain but throughout the world. That much is undeniably true. BUT. The vast, overwhelming majority of the British public, whether white, brown, black or green with yellow spots, are not Christians. By definition, a Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ. Those who follow him will (at least try to) act as he acted, and to live their lives in accordance with his teachings as recorded in the New Testament. If the true Christians do this, they have nothing to fear from those around them who may believe differently. Carry on as you are, be examples to those around you, my Christian friends.

Score: 8

Saj143
7:55pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Mikeee47 wrote…

fkhan wrote…

I do hope Jack Straw is a practising Christian then maybe one day he can explain to GOD his reasons for justifying the killings of 10s and 100s of innocent children in Iraq.....

war is what it is, the germans killed 1000s of women & children here as we did there do we hold a grudge after all this time? NO. move on
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim, makes you think
what does it say in the Quran about killing????? need I say more??

I didn't know Adams , Blair ,Bush , the guys who blew up Deansgate and carried out mainland bombings from Ireland ...... were Muslims ?

[quote][p][bold]Mikeee47[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]fkhan[/bold] wrote:
I do hope Jack Straw is a practising Christian then maybe one day he can explain to GOD his reasons for justifying the killings of 10s and 100s of innocent children in Iraq.....[/p][/quote]war is what it is, the germans killed 1000s of women & children here as we did there do we hold a grudge after all this time? NO. move on
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim, makes you think
what does it say in the Quran about killing????? need I say more??[/p][/quote]I didn't know Adams , Blair ,Bush , the guys who blew up Deansgate and carried out mainland bombings from Ireland ...... were Muslims ?Saj143

Mikeee47 wrote…

fkhan wrote…

I do hope Jack Straw is a practising Christian then maybe one day he can explain to GOD his reasons for justifying the killings of 10s and 100s of innocent children in Iraq.....

war is what it is, the germans killed 1000s of women & children here as we did there do we hold a grudge after all this time? NO. move on
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslim, makes you think
what does it say in the Quran about killing????? need I say more??

I didn't know Adams , Blair ,Bush , the guys who blew up Deansgate and carried out mainland bombings from Ireland ...... were Muslims ?

Score: 1

Saj143
7:59pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Carl_24 wrote…

If the UK is a ‘Christian country’ then why are Christian church's being knocked down and mosques being build in their place?
Take for example that beautiful church that use to be on Audley Range and got knocked down round about 2007 and now a mosque is in it's place it's a disgrace there's far too many of them in Blackburn and not enough church's.

Erm....dare I ask how many attended the Church in Audley ?

For the record I do agree that this Country is and should be celebrated for being a Christian country.

[quote][p][bold]Carl_24[/bold] wrote:
If the UK is a ‘Christian country’ then why are Christian church's being knocked down and mosques being build in their place?
Take for example that beautiful church that use to be on Audley Range and got knocked down round about 2007 and now a mosque is in it's place it's a disgrace there's far too many of them in Blackburn and not enough church's.[/p][/quote]Erm....dare I ask how many attended the Church in Audley ?
For the record I do agree that this Country is and should be celebrated for being a Christian country.Saj143

Carl_24 wrote…

If the UK is a ‘Christian country’ then why are Christian church's being knocked down and mosques being build in their place?
Take for example that beautiful church that use to be on Audley Range and got knocked down round about 2007 and now a mosque is in it's place it's a disgrace there's far too many of them in Blackburn and not enough church's.

Erm....dare I ask how many attended the Church in Audley ?

For the record I do agree that this Country is and should be celebrated for being a Christian country.

Score: 1

Graham Hartley
9:15pm Fri 25 Apr 14

Pendle Bill wrote…

This country's historic heritage is most certainly Christian. The Christian faith has led to some of the greatest advances in civilisation, not only here in Britain but throughout the world. That much is undeniably true. BUT. The vast, overwhelming majority of the British public, whether white, brown, black or green with yellow spots, are not Christians. By definition, a Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ. Those who follow him will (at least try to) act as he acted, and to live their lives in accordance with his teachings as recorded in the New Testament. If the true Christians do this, they have nothing to fear from those around them who may believe differently. Carry on as you are, be examples to those around you, my Christian friends.

There are almost eight hundred thousand words in the Bible. Some of them convey useful information about how to behave in non-destructive ways, and others tell how to oppose, even to kill, those who don't belong. It's fortunate for your argument that some readers have been influenced by the non-destructive messages, and unfortunate that others favour the opposite.

Your Christan friends have much to fear from those of different belief.

[quote][p][bold]Pendle Bill[/bold] wrote:
This country's historic heritage is most certainly Christian. The Christian faith has led to some of the greatest advances in civilisation, not only here in Britain but throughout the world. That much is undeniably true. BUT. The vast, overwhelming majority of the British public, whether white, brown, black or green with yellow spots, are not Christians. By definition, a Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ. Those who follow him will (at least try to) act as he acted, and to live their lives in accordance with his teachings as recorded in the New Testament. If the true Christians do this, they have nothing to fear from those around them who may believe differently. Carry on as you are, be examples to those around you, my Christian friends.[/p][/quote]There are almost eight hundred thousand words in the Bible. Some of them convey useful information about how to behave in non-destructive ways, and others tell how to oppose, even to kill, those who don't belong. It's fortunate for your argument that some readers have been influenced by the non-destructive messages, and unfortunate that others favour the opposite.
Your Christan friends have much to fear from those of different belief.Graham Hartley

Pendle Bill wrote…

This country's historic heritage is most certainly Christian. The Christian faith has led to some of the greatest advances in civilisation, not only here in Britain but throughout the world. That much is undeniably true. BUT. The vast, overwhelming majority of the British public, whether white, brown, black or green with yellow spots, are not Christians. By definition, a Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ. Those who follow him will (at least try to) act as he acted, and to live their lives in accordance with his teachings as recorded in the New Testament. If the true Christians do this, they have nothing to fear from those around them who may believe differently. Carry on as you are, be examples to those around you, my Christian friends.

There are almost eight hundred thousand words in the Bible. Some of them convey useful information about how to behave in non-destructive ways, and others tell how to oppose, even to kill, those who don't belong. It's fortunate for your argument that some readers have been influenced by the non-destructive messages, and unfortunate that others favour the opposite.

Your Christan friends have much to fear from those of different belief.

Score: 6

Graham Hartley
9:23pm Fri 25 Apr 14

For Christan above please read 'this narc' (anagram).

For Christan above please read 'this narc' (anagram).Graham Hartley

For Christan above please read 'this narc' (anagram).

Score: -4

Blackburn1988
8:47pm Wed 30 Apr 14

A think they should knock all the mosques down remove all there burkas or even better throw all non true brit on a boat back to there little country's with just there rags n sandles they came in (freedom of speech)

A think they should knock all the mosques down remove all there burkas or even better throw all non true brit on a boat back to there little country's with just there rags n sandles they came in (freedom of speech)Blackburn1988

A think they should knock all the mosques down remove all there burkas or even better throw all non true brit on a boat back to there little country's with just there rags n sandles they came in (freedom of speech)

Score: -1

Resultspeaksvolumes
11:17pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Blackburn1988 wrote…

A think they should knock all the mosques down remove all there burkas or even better throw all non true brit on a boat back to there little country's with just there rags n sandles they came in (freedom of speech)

And give them everything back as well ; I mean everything we stole from India ...you know what I mean isn't it , e.g. Kohe noor

[quote][p][bold]Blackburn1988[/bold] wrote:
A think they should knock all the mosques down remove all there burkas or even better throw all non true brit on a boat back to there little country's with just there rags n sandles they came in (freedom of speech)[/p][/quote]And give them everything back as well ; I mean everything we stole from India ...you know what I mean isn't it , e.g. Kohe noorResultspeaksvolumes

Blackburn1988 wrote…

A think they should knock all the mosques down remove all there burkas or even better throw all non true brit on a boat back to there little country's with just there rags n sandles they came in (freedom of speech)

And give them everything back as well ; I mean everything we stole from India ...you know what I mean isn't it , e.g. Kohe noor

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