Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can be assessed a penalty after a goal is scored against you. The goal was scored, the play was over and Howard chased Hansen (just like Kesler 20 seconds before) and actually touched Hansen (unlike Kesler 20 seconds before.) The bar was set only 20 seconds before - if you chase a guy after a hit you don't like, you get a roughing penalty. How can you change a bar you set in only 20 seconds?

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can be assessed a penalty after a goal is scored against you. The goal was scored, the play was over and Howard chased Hansen (just like Kesler 20 seconds before) and actually touched Hansen (unlike Kesler 20 seconds before.) The bar was set only 20 seconds before - if you chase a guy after a hit you don't like, you get a roughing penalty. How can you change a bar you set in only 20 seconds?

Kronwall's hit was sweet. - no issue other than he left his feet. Because he left his feet a head shot become far more likely, thus a need for review. At the same time Kesler should get a talking too but so should the officials for letting that game get out of hand.

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Larry Goodenough wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can be assessed a penalty after a goal is scored against you. The goal was scored, the play was over and Howard chased Hansen (just like Kesler 20 seconds before) and actually touched Hansen (unlike Kesler 20 seconds before.) The bar was set only 20 seconds before - if you chase a guy after a hit you don't like, you get a roughing penalty. How can you change a bar you set in only 20 seconds?

You are indeed correct. After a goal is scored and a penalty is taken it can and should be called. The only time a penalty is not called is of it occurs before the goal and it is then waived off. Howard most definitely should have been assessed a 2 minute penalty on that play.

As for Kesler, lets face it, the only reason he went after the guy was because he knew he would not fight. Kesler isn't exactly known as a tough guy and he knew he was safe in doing so. He got the penalty for grabbing the second guy in by the jersey and pulling/pushing him after he had been warned by the ref. It should have been unsportsman like but he got roughing. Same thing Howard should have been given for the exact same thing.

As for the hit, everything was fine but the leaving the feet and that alone made it a penalty. Other than that I love his devastating hits as much as I love it when Edler does the same thing.

This was a great game to watch. We were jumping on all cylinders in this one. When Ballard is back I hope it is Alberts that sits. I like so far what Sultzer brings in the limited games he has played. This team is fun to watch again and boy oh boy I can't wait for Booth to get back and if we are healthy what the team will look like. Drop Higgins back to the 3rd to play with Hodgson and Hansen and Malhotra to the 4th and suddenly we are very very fast and deep in 4 lines.

Larry Goodenough wrote:This was a great game to watch. We were jumping on all cylinders in this one. When Ballard is back I hope it is Alberts that sits. I like so far what Sultzer brings in the limited games he has played. This team is fun to watch again and boy oh boy I can't wait for Booth to get back and if we are healthy what the team will look like. Drop Higgins back to the 3rd to play with Hodgson and Hansen and Malhotra to the 4th and suddenly we are very very fast and deep in 4 lines.

I think the shopping list for Gillis if the team is healthy at the deadline (a BIG if it seems) will be a big, physical 4th line winger and perhaps a similar 13th forward. I think he may also look to move Ballard who if he continues to play as he did before the back issues would make it on many teams top 4. To replace Ballard he'll look for a physical #5 D-man who can play 20 minutes a night and provide a steady defensive game...Tim Gleason for instance.

We got Ballard for the season, forgetaboutit. We are going to make a move on B.C. boy Josh Georges in the off-season. Somehow we get Weber here as well, our Defense will then boast 3 Kelowna Rockets D-mates in Edler, Georges and Weber. Trust me, this will happen.

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Larry Goodenough wrote:BTW - for my Christmas present, I want us to all post responses in the next game day thread (Dec 23rd vs Calgary) in Calpuck style. Pretty please... you have to give an 11 year old kid with scoliosis what he wants for Christmas.......

I will do my part in the spirit of Festivus, but only after the airing of grievances and feats of strength.

Vpete wrote:Kronwall's hit was sweet. - no issue other than he left his feet. Because he left his feet a head shot become far more likely, thus a need for review. At the same time Kesler should get a talking too but so should the officials for letting that game get out of hand.

I don't have a problem with the hit, but from a league perspective it was not clean.

Obvious charge since Kronwalls feet we almost a foot off the ground and keslers face was cut by his visor witch means there was significant contact to the head.

If this were an unknown player from a small market, this is a suspension all be it a short one. Kronwall will get a stern warning and a 5$ fine.

Kesler hanging his leg was nothing, contact was basically shin to shin, who cares.

Hockey Widow wrote:As for Kesler, lets face it, the only reason he went after the guy was because he knew he would not fight. Kesler isn't exactly known as a tough guy and he knew he was safe in doing so. He got the penalty for grabbing the second guy in by the jersey and pulling/pushing him after he had been warned by the ref. It should have been unsportsman like but he got roughing. Same thing Howard should have been given for the exact same thing.

No clue where you are getting that from.

Kesler has had a half dozen fights in the last several years most of which were against players who are a lot more accomplished in that area.