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Hannu backstopped this team to the conference finals for the first time in well over a decade?

wow I didn't know Turek had some fans around here. Turek was as streaky as they come. Toivenen is the same way. I remember when Turek let up a bad goal, the camera would zoom in on him, and you could see the fear in his eyes through his mask. I see the same in Toivenen.

Mellanby_equals_grit wrote:And the love for Holt who has never done anything at the top level and couldn't get a start in 40 plus games on the bench is equally bizarre.

And Bishop's done what at the top level? My only basis for this arguement is that Holt has put up good numbers in Alaska and Peoria (which Bishop has not done), only to have Bishop to be the "go to" guy. I don't have a man-crush on Holt; I just want it to be proved that Bishop should be at the higher level. Also, I'm pretty sure Bishop couldn't get a start while sitting on the bench for quite a few games, either.

Mellanby_equals_grit wrote:Bishop would have had a SO in his first career start if not for injury. I'd say that's doing something.

That's your argument??

I agree, that is a step in the right direction. What is there to say that Holt wouldn't have done the same, not been injured, and got the SO? I'm not trying to discredit Bishop. I'm more curious why he has had more opportunities than Holt to prove himself. Is it because we drafted him? Is it because he's 17' tall?

Toivonen has NHL-caliber ability, he just didn't have the positioning down. I think a solid year of starts in the AHL with solid coaching would do him a lot of good. I'm not sure why they decided to go this route given the number of young goalies in the system that need playing time though.

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