PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People are saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Welcome to the internet, where people love to hate just to feel important. I was disappointing with the reveal not showing much gaming but that's what I figured. I think all the new features xbox is adding are pretty cool, I already use my xbox as my entertainment center and my gaming console, so what they showed were only positives for me. Plus, at this point, not much is known about PS4 or Xbox, at E3 there might be real reasons to complain (especially if Microsoft doesn't revise their position on used games). Plus half of these complaints are about the name and the design of the console .....
definitely good reasons to start revolting against Microsoft.

they didnt have an hour long conference about CD dvd blu ray or all the cool apps you would be able to get, they kinda focussed games and graphics and memory, those things..... the features were just the icing on the cake.

they didnt have an hour long conference about CD dvd blu ray or all the cool apps you would be able to get, they kinda focussed games and graphics and memory, those things..... the features were just the icing on the cake.

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Jesus Christ, here we go again. E3 will be the second half of the reveal, and for games. Why are we going in circles here?

Besides you couldn't have an hour long press conference only about playing DVDs and music on a console.

they didnt have an hour long conference about CD dvd blu ray or all the cool apps you would be able to get, they kinda focussed games and graphics and memory, those things..... the features were just the icing on the cake.

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Jesus Christ, here we go again. E3 will be the second half of the reveal, and for games. Why are we going in circles here?

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I am answering a question of why people could be mad at Microsoft, you need to learn how to read buddy

Anyways those features are still icing on a cake for a console that plays video games. They need to announce those features first because they need to get the news out to the casuals so they can make money, they are a business after all. E3 is for us, for the gamers. It's kinda like the after party, its the best part for last.

PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People is saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Ummm what the hell just happened???

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I SO AGREE. The Vita is a failure in part because nobody wants to pay for a handheld system that ONLY plays games when tablets and smartphones do so much more. But when a console does so much more, everyone wants it to just play games.

Anyways those features are still icing on a cake for a console that plays video games. They need to announce those features first because they need to get the news out to the casuals so they can make money, they are a business after all. E3 is for us, for the gamers. It's kinda like the after party, its the best part for last.

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how many video game conferences have you seen where video games weren't the focal point

PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People is saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Ummm what the hell just happened???

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I SO AGREE. The Vita is a failure in part because nobody wants to pay for a handheld system that ONLY plays games when tablets and smartphones do so much more. But when a console does so much more, everyone wants it to just play games.

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And they act as if just because it has all of these other features that suddenly the games will turn to shit and be forgotten. I don't see the connection they are putting there.

PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People is saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Ummm what the hell just happened???

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I SO AGREE. The Vita is a failure in part because nobody wants to pay for a handheld system that ONLY plays games when tablets and smartphones do so much more. But when a console does so much more, everyone wants it to just play games.

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And they act as if just because it has all of these other features that suddenly the games will turn to shit and be forgotten. I don't see the connection they are putting there.

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Exactly. Why is it that because the Xbox One does more than just play games, that apparently it suddenly CAN"T play games?

Yea it makes absolute sense to display the features while everyone is looking at the console itself. If they showed games now where would their E3 impact come from? I swear its like ppl lost their brains along the way. That's why the had their reveal so close to E3, unlike Sony that also barely showed anything significant gameplay wise and has us waiting months to see some concrete PS4 titles.

Anyways those features are still icing on a cake for a console that plays video games. They need to announce those features first because they need to get the news out to the casuals so they can make money, they are a business after all. E3 is for us, for the gamers. It's kinda like the after party, its the best part for last.

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how many video game conferences have you seen where video games weren't the focal point

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This wasn't a video game conference it was a "console reveal" which is different. One is for games, this was for the console itself. It was a stand alone event for a new video game console that was aired on live TV for christ's sake. Aired on TV so they can announce their console to the masses of casuals. It's a business strategy.

Anyways those features are still icing on a cake for a console that plays video games. They need to announce those features first because they need to get the news out to the casuals so they can make money, they are a business after all. E3 is for us, for the gamers. It's kinda like the after party, its the best part for last.

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how many video game conferences have you seen where video games weren't the focal point

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This wasn't a video game conference it was a "console reveal" which is different. One is for games, this was for the console itself. It was a stand alone event for a new video game console that was aired on live TV for christ's sake. Aired on TV so they can announce their console to the masses of casuals. It's a business strategy.

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video game conference is a broad statement, system release whatever you see more gameplay, stop being so technical.

Anyways those features are still icing on a cake for a console that plays video games. They need to announce those features first because they need to get the news out to the casuals so they can make money, they are a business after all. E3 is for us, for the gamers. It's kinda like the after party, its the best part for last.

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how many video game conferences have you seen where video games weren't the focal point

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This wasn't a video game conference it was a "console reveal" which is different. One is for games, this was for the console itself. It was a stand alone event for a new video game console that was aired on live TV for christ's sake. Aired on TV so they can announce their console to the masses of casuals. It's a business strategy.

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Yep. Just like the PS4. It was an announcement. Just to say hey, here we are, and we're coming this year. Now who wants a hotdog?

The previous consoles' features never got in the way of games. Microsoft tried to add all of these features to the 360 towards the end of its life cycle and it ended up with barely any exclusives then.

Not being technical. They specifically stated that they wouldn't focus on games till E3. They made the promise that we would see the games but that they just wanted to focus on the console at the console reveal, imagine that. They need to show those games at E3 to compete with Sony. I swear people literally don't have brains anymore. Are you just a zombie sitting at your computer smashing keys that just happen to form ridiculous thoughts, exaggerated view points and no common sense?

The previous consoles' features never got in the way of games. Microsoft tried to add all of these features to the 360 towards the end of its life cycle and it ended up with barely any exclusives then.

Tapatalking from my bed. Ya mutha says hi.

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Something that they've fixed. They've announced 15 exclusives for the One. Sony made mistakes too, mistakes that they are also trying to fix for this gen.

I'm still trying to figure out what Sony did that was so much better?? The so called games that was shown were a bunch of tech demos, teaser trailers, and a stupid blocks game nobody cares about.. Oh and Killzone.

PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People is saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Ummm what the hell just happened???

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I SO AGREE. The Vita is a failure in part because nobody wants to pay for a handheld system that ONLY plays games when tablets and smartphones do so much more. But when a console does so much more, everyone wants it to just play games.

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And they act as if just because it has all of these other features that suddenly the games will turn to shit and be forgotten. I don't see the connection they are putting there.

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people often convinetly change their stance to suit there own arguments. PS3 was great last gen cause it only did everything. I guess thats not in anymore. Now we want more of a N64 approach?

I'm still trying to figure out what Sony did that was so much better?? The so called games that was shown were a bunch of tech demos, teaser trailers, and a stupid blocks game nobody cares about.. Oh and Killzone.

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A conference that got its fair share of scrutiny that is all but forgotten.

PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People are saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Ummm what the hell just happened???

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When they announced the ps1 they did not expend 30 minutes talking about CD playback.

Neither that happened with the ps2.

And that did not happen either with the ps3.

It has always been a plus.
Damn dude, PS3 is the machine most used to use netflix, did the netflix CEO ever talk on any sony conference?

Its all about focus, while the playstation consoles always had bonuses (and the xbox always did too) they did not focus on that bullshit.
Its mostly about the games.
You show a console and theres less than 10 seconds of actual game play in one hour (few seconds of the CoD show)? Bullshit.

PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People are saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Ummm what the hell just happened???

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When they announced the ps1 they did not expend 30 minutes talking about CD playback.

Neither that happened with the ps2.

And that did not happen either with the ps3.

It has always been a plus.
Damn dude, PS3 is the machine most used to use netflix, did the netflix CEO ever talk on any sony conference?

Its all about focus, while the playstation consoles always had bonuses (and the xbox always did too) they did not focus on that bullshit.
Its mostly about the games.
You show a console and theres less than 10 seconds of actual game play in one hour (few seconds of the CoD show)? Bullshit.

PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People are saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Ummm what the hell just happened???

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When they announced the ps1 they did not expend 30 minutes talking about CD playback.

Neither that happened with the ps2.

And that did not happen either with the ps3.

It has always been a plus.
Damn dude, PS3 is the machine most used to use netflix, did the netflix CEO ever talk on any sony conference?

Its all about focus, while the playstation consoles always had bonuses (and the xbox always did too) they did not focus on that bullshit.
Its mostly about the games.
You show a console and theres less than 10 seconds of actual game play in one hour (few seconds of the CoD show)? Bullshit.

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Did you miss the part where they said the games were going to be for E3? Seems many people have just glossed over that so they can bitch about the conference.

I'm still trying to figure out what Sony did that was so much better?? The so called games that was shown were a bunch of tech demos, teaser trailers, and a stupid blocks game nobody cares about.. Oh and Killzone.

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Its all a matter of aproach.

they did show a lot of gimmick features, but they always related those to the games, did you notice that?

Like "Hey, now we got some very nice streaming service... you can stream games!!"
"You can now watch what your friends are doing.... and help them play their games!!!"

It all connected to the center of what makes a videogame important.

Did you watch the conference? Even if a lot was not shown, Cerny was amazing on his approach.

I'm still trying to figure out what Sony did that was so much better?? The so called games that was shown were a bunch of tech demos, teaser trailers, and a stupid blocks game nobody cares about.. Oh and Killzone.

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Your right it honestly wasn't all that better, Microsoft just talked about things I dont care about , and you know what?
75% of people agree with me.

PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People are saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Ummm what the hell just happened???

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When they announced the ps1 they did not expend 30 minutes talking about CD playback.

Neither that happened with the ps2.

And that did not happen either with the ps3.

It has always been a plus.
Damn dude, PS3 is the machine most used to use netflix, did the netflix CEO ever talk on any sony conference?

Its all about focus, while the playstation consoles always had bonuses (and the xbox always did too) they did not focus on that bullshit.
Its mostly about the games.
You show a console and theres less than 10 seconds of actual game play in one hour (few seconds of the CoD show)? Bullshit.

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Did you miss the part where they said the games were going to be for E. Seems many people have just glossed over that so they can bitch about the conference.

PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People are saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Ummm what the hell just happened???

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When they announced the ps1 they did not expend 30 minutes talking about CD playback.

Neither that happened with the ps2.

And that did not happen either with the ps3.

It has always been a plus.
Damn dude, PS3 is the machine most used to use netflix, did the netflix CEO ever talk on any sony conference?

Its all about focus, while the playstation consoles always had bonuses (and the xbox always did too) they did not focus on that bullshit.
Its mostly about the games.
You show a console and theres less than 10 seconds of actual game play in one hour (few seconds of the CoD show)? Bullshit.

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So when the Microsoft guys said, part 2 is E3 where we showcase the software including 15 exclusives 8 being new IP's. That left you feeling like their focus isn't gaming anymore? Follow up question are you retarded?

PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People are saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Ummm what the hell just happened???

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When they announced the ps1 they did not expend 30 minutes talking about CD playback.

Neither that happened with the ps2.

And that did not happen either with the ps3.

It has always been a plus.
Damn dude, PS3 is the machine most used to use netflix, did the netflix CEO ever talk on any sony conference?

Its all about focus, while the playstation consoles always had bonuses (and the xbox always did too) they did not focus on that bullshit.
Its mostly about the games.
You show a console and theres less than 10 seconds of actual game play in one hour (few seconds of the CoD show)? Bullshit.

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So when the Microsoft guys said, part 2 is E3 where we showcase the software including 15 exclusives 8 being new IP's. That left you feeling like their focus isn't gaming anymore? Follow up question are you retarded?

When they announced the ps1 they did not expend 30 minutes talking about CD playback.

Neither that happened with the ps2.

And that did not happen either with the ps3.

It has always been a plus.
Damn dude, PS3 is the machine most used to use netflix, did the netflix CEO ever talk on any sony conference?

Its all about focus, while the playstation consoles always had bonuses (and the xbox always did too) they did not focus on that bullshit.
Its mostly about the games.
You show a console and theres less than 10 seconds of actual game play in one hour (few seconds of the CoD show)? Bullshit.

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So when the Microsoft guys said, part 2 is E3 where we showcase the software including 15 exclusives 8 being new IP's. That left you feeling like their focus isn't gaming anymore? Follow up question are you retarded?

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7-10 being shitty games for your kinect

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How could you possibly know this? And even put an approximation to it? Not only do people on this board not have brains, but they've been replaced by crystal balls that see the future.

So when the Microsoft guys said, part 2 is E3 where we showcase the software including 15 exclusives 8 being new IP's. That left you feeling like their focus isn't gaming anymore? Follow up question are you retarded?

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7-10 being shitty games for your kinect

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How could you possibly know this? And even put an approximation to it? Not only do people on this board not have brains, but they've been replaced by crystal balls that see the future.

Way to miss the point. It sounds good, woulndt sell enough in this generation of gaming to be profitable and sustainable. It would become a $700 Neo Geo with $100 games if it were to survive at all.

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I understood where you were going with it, that a console should be able to play TV and order pizzas and do fantasy football. I was just making a counter point that I would indeed be quite happy if it only played great games as I personally have zero need for the other stuff.

So when the Microsoft guys said, part 2 is E3 where we showcase the software including 15 exclusives 8 being new IP's. That left you feeling like their focus isn't gaming anymore? Follow up question are you retarded?

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7-10 being shitty games for your kinect

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How could you possibly know this? And even put an approximation to it? Not only do people on this board not have brains, but they've been replaced by crystal balls that see the future.

Way to miss the point. It sounds good, woulndt sell enough in this generation of gaming to be profitable and sustainable. It would become a $700 Neo Geo with $100 games if it were to survive at all.

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I understood where you were going with it, that a console should be able to play TV and order pizzas and do fantasy football. I was just making a counter point that I would indeed be quite happy if it only played great games as I personally have zero need for the other stuff.

Whatever systems I get I'm sure there will be some features I use an some I don't, same as this generation. It's the no lending games to friends, needs internet connection daily, amongst other consumer unfriendly features that I am really against. I think most gamers are against it.

Whatever systems I get I'm sure there will be some features I use an some I don't, same as this generation. It's the no lending games to friends, needs internet connection daily, amongst other consumer unfriendly features that I am really against. I think most gamers are against it.

PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People are saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Whatever systems I get I'm sure there will be some features I use an some I don't, same as this generation. It's the no lending games to friends, needs internet connection daily, amongst other consumer unfriendly features that I am really against. I think most gamers are against it.

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So what happens when sony says they will be doing the same stuff?

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it goes by pattern
microsoft chargers for internet playstation dosent
Microsoft dosent know how to treat their customers

Whatever systems I get I'm sure there will be some features I use an some I don't, same as this generation. It's the no lending games to friends, needs internet connection daily, amongst other consumer unfriendly features that I am really against. I think most gamers are against it.

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So what happens when sony says they will be doing the same stuff?

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it goes by pattern
microsoft chargers for internet playstation dosent
Microsoft dosent know how to treat their customers

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way to avoid the question. So, are all of going to rage and boycott sony if this happens?

PlayStation - People said "That's so cool, it plays music CD's also!!"

PlayStation 2/Xbox - People said "OHH BADASS it's also a DVD player!! And Xbox can burn CD's to the HDD and play music during games!"

PlayStation 3/Xbox 360 - People said "Oh great I can browse the web(note 360 got hate for not adding this sooner), watch Netflix, Hulu Plus, Youtube, HBO Go, etc..!! And PS3 is also an BLUE RAY PLAYER AWESOME!!"

PlayStation 4/ Xbox One - People are saying "omg all these extra features suck. I just want my game console to play videogames!!"

Ummm what the hell just happened???

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When they announced the ps1 they did not expend 30 minutes talking about CD playback.
,
Neither that happened with the ps2.

And that did not happen either with the ps3.

It has always been a plus.
Damn dude, PS3 is the machine most used to use netflix, did the netflix CEO ever talk on any sony conference?

Its all about focus, while the playstation consoles always had bonuses (and the xbox always did too) they did not focus on that bullshit.
Its mostly about the games.
You show a console and theres less than 10 seconds of actual game play in one hour (few seconds of the CoD show)? Bullshit.

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So when the Microsoft guys said, part 2 is E3 where we showcase the software including 15 exclusives 8 being new IP's. That left you feeling like their focus isn't gaming anymore? Follow up question are you retarded?

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The 360 had WELL over 15 exclusives on their first year.

In fact, if we divide the number of exclusives per number of years it has been on the market, we reach above 25.

Yes, the xbox 360 has had over 25 exclusives per year, and the first year it had well over 30.

So no. 15 exclusives on the first year IS NOT a big deal.

Follow up question, no I'm not retarded, I can actually look at the numbers and factual evidence, instead of just hearing bullshit and be excited about something that is not a big number at all.

Also, they did not say the 15 exclusives are going to be on e3, all they said is they are going to have those on the first console year.

And if you tell me 8 new IPS on a year is a big load, how many of those you truly expect to be worthwhile titles?

Sony haves 13 new IPS on 2013. Spread on two generations, how many of those are truly AAA worthy titles?
Last of us, beyond, Drive Club and Knack.
The rest, while may be good, ain't titles that move units.
If you expect all the 8 new ips to be truly great you are delusional.