i cannot play my toon on the PTR so i cannot see if there is a difference. Honestly with the threashing BM is getting i wouldn't mind seeing Marks get fixed in order to be viable again, seeing how i highly dislike the SV playstyle.

This won't fix the spec in PvP either. Marksmanship has no fun to it. It's boring. You choose it and get...3 abilities that are not interesting. No unique utility at all, it all went into the talent trees. No good burst either, so why play it?

they just need to buff steady and cobra shot to ATLEST 100% weapon damage. Aswell as MASSIVLY buff Chimera shot and explosive shot. Dont care of what they do with hunters in pvp already given up on that part.

they just need to buff steady and cobra shot to ATLEST 100% weapon damage. Aswell as MASSIVLY buff Chimera shot and explosive shot. Dont care of what they do with hunters in pvp already given up on that part.

Survival and BM are fine, maybe on the lower end but its not like we're not competitive. Not needed.

you must not get what "competative" means. to be competative it means you have the ability tow in, hunters cannot win against mages locks or warriors if they are players by a semi intelligent person.

Competative: well suited for competition; having a feature that makes for successful competition: a competitive price. (dictionary.com)

Hunters do competative dps, meaning, they do enough dps to kill the content. In addition, they are considered optimal and not just "viable". On feng 25 man, hunters beat all but the top mage spec, warlock spec, and shadow priests. We beat ele shaman, boomkin, and inferior mage and warlock specs.

Do we need buffs? Well, we're not #1 so an argument can always be made, however I would prefer them bring all our specs even to each other rather than buff the class to compete with others.