With unfailing kindness, your life always presents what
you need to learn. Whether you stay home or work in an
office or whatever, the next teacher is going to pop right
up.

~Charlotte Joko Beck

The essence of bravery is being without self deception.
However, it's not so easy to take a straight look at what
we do. Seeing ourselves clearly is initially uncomfortable
and embarrassing. As we train in clarity and steadfastness,
we see things we'd prefer to deny - judgmentalness, pettiness,
arrogance. These are not sins but temporary and workable
habits of mind. The more we get to know them, the more they
lose their power. This is how we come to trust that our basic
nature is utterly simple, free of struggle between good and
bad.

A warrior begins to take responsibility for the direction of
her life. It's as if we are lugging around unnecessary baggage.
Our training encourages us to open the bags and look closely
at what we are carrying. In doing this we begin to understand
that much of it isn't needed anymore.

Depends on where satsang is happening
while an anchoring factor
( read Enlightened One )
is actually offering it
besides, cliché alert,
satsang never ends.

But if asking questions and communion is the ticket;
I'd recommend attending satsang
and maybe find out about 'shaktipat'.

But I don't know of any Nondual Church yet ...

Maybe in the the California Yellow Pages ?!?

Yosy

:))

non-dual perception observes all of the creation as an ongoing
worship.

non-dualists do not go nor return, they do not seek nor find; in
truth,
'they' do not exist... melted in the ever-present all-including
unity of
(non)being.

Jerry

The purely nondual and
metaphysical responses stand by themselves. I'll
speak from a bricks and mortar place.

You might want to attend a Buddhist church or Hindu temple near
where you
live. However, leadership has to be open to your questions and
disposition.
You might want to try contacting a Zen or Catholic monastery.
There are
Rabbis known to come from the nondual place. Sufi practitioners
cover
Islamic nondualism.

People attend satsang and services of various teachers, gurus,
masters,
pundits within a physical place known as an Ashram, Church,
Temple, etc.
Information about these people and places can be researched
online and on
this list. We would need to know if you wish to travel, where to,
or if
would rather find a person and place near you.

Give us more information and we'll give you more specific
answers.

Wim

This question made me remember a
place in the eastern parts of the
Netherlands (near Deventer). Around the turn of the 19th to 20th
century there was quite an interest in Advaita in that part of
Holland (as well as adjacent areas of Germany). There was even an
enlightened educator and poet who was widely read and even
admired by
those from western Holland. If I recall it well, he (Johan Der
Mouw)
wrote a poem that went something like, "I am Brahman and I'm
doing
the dishes..."

When I was roaming through the country-side attempting to retrace
his
life, I found an opening in the woods where I felt very strongly
that
once there must have stood a place of worship, maybe a chapel or
a
small church of some sort, but while searching for its ruined
remains, I found a stone slab raised on a pillar with the
following
text chiselled in:

"Nevermore will this spot be a prayer shrine of some sort,
After all, is the whole universe not a temple for the Lord?!

Over the centuries, that part of the Netherlands has witnessed
the
existence of quite a few 'successful utopias' not
necessarily
a 'contradictio in terminis') from religious monastic communities
to
spiritually inspired communes... and in between even some idyllic
and
idealistic far-out communal experiments. Even today a few
communes
from the sixties are still flourishing there.
One of those movements still stands out in history, as for almost
700
years there have been commune-like settlements in that region
whose
participants called themselves "Brothers and Sisters of
Shared
Living. http://utopia.ision.nl/users/ikedl/chant/ike/churches/Broeders_Gemene_Leven_cho.htmIt may be worthwhile to look
up writers and thinkers like Ruysbroeck
and Geert Grote who from about the thirteenth century on
propagated a
movement called 'Devotio Moderna'. Most literature on this
movement
comments of course on its rather Christian orientation, but what
set
that movement apart from ordinary religious Christianity was that
it
was not rite- but life-based. Initially there were no religious
observances either, only the practice of real day-to-day living
in
common love, common-wealth, common-health... A holistic,
integrated
approach almost before its time.

As distinct from 'striving non-dualists' advaitists do not need
to
seek communion... by definition they live communion. Realized
non-
dualists do not need to seek nor ask anymore, as they recognize
oneness exemplified in the seeming diversity of all. Aspiring
non-
dualists :-) are of course still 'dualists' :-) as they are 'as
of
yet' not realizing the directness and immediacy of unity with one
and
everyone...

Realized non-dualists may very well be ultimate humans, living
love
only...
... as if there were a choice - really...

"All right,'' he said,
"maybe it is of no use, so what? You felt the loss, did
you not?''Then I understood that we did not go
to him for profit, but because
away from him there was no life for us."

From "At the Feet of Bhagwan" by T.K. Sundaresa
Iyer.

Nice. Thank you for this. Maybe that's why people
come here
too...not "for profit", but to share together.
It's one way to
express ourselves...to reach out to another human. Apart
from that,
what life is there for us? LOL...this made me feel a little
less "guilty" about that! Sometimes it seems like
"non-dual" people
are "supposed" to be so self-sufficient, so tough, so
strong. There
is strength to be found in the teachings, but we're human
too...and
human connection doesn't make us weak. Thanks again.

adithya_comming contributed:

Audience.: Dear Bhagwan (Self/God), you are self. Can you
tell me
when I will get realized?

Ramana: If I am self, then there is no one besides me and
there is no
one to be realized.

If I am not self, then, I am just an ordinary person like
you.

...either way, I can't answer your question.

Vicki returned:

Beautifully succinct. This
is enough to puncture the ego's balloon--when it is time.

Daily Dharma

"In the still night by the
vacant window,
Wrapped in monk's robe I sit in meditation.
Navel and nostrils lines up straight;
Ears paired to the slope of the shoulders.
Window whitens  the moon comes up;
Rain's stopped, but drops go on dripping.
Wonderful  the moon of this moment,
Distant, vast."

The vision of the self and awareness of it as the abidance in the
heart - where the unbroken awareness of one's existence can be
felt spontaneously as the 'I-I' - has been described by Ramana
Maharshi.

What obstructs one's awareness of the fullness of existence is
the ego - the mind's wrong identification with a particular body,
mistaking it to be the 'I' or the subject. Hence the destruction
of ego, or its merging with the source, the only way to
experience the joyous and uninterrupted throb of 'I-I'.

Like the diver diving deep, searching for pearls on the ocean
floor, Ramana says we have to explore within, with keen intellect
as one would do to recover a thing that has fallen into a deep
well.

"The ego falls, crestfallen,/ when one searches and/ enters
the Heart/ Then another 'I-I', throbs/ Unceasingly, by itself,/
It is not the ego but the self/ Itself, the whole."

This absorption of the mind in its source - or its subsistence in
it - is as natural as it is for a salt doll placed in the ocean
to be absorbed into it. This is because the essence of both the
salt doll and the ocean is saline.

Similarly, the core of the mind, too, is only consciousness; it
is the false notion resulting in its identification with a
particular body that has caused the limitation.

If one searches for the source of the mind with vigilance and
diligence, this false notion drops off. This happens
gradually as the mind comes closer to its source. What
constitutes self- enquiry? Ramana's first disciple Gambhiram
Seshier asked: What is meant by saying that one should enquire
into one's true nature and understand it?

Ramana replied that experi-ences such as, 'I went, I came, I was,
I did', come naturally to everyone. Does it not appear, then,
that the consciousness 'I' is the subject of those various acts?

Enquiry into the true nature of that consciousness and remaining
as oneself is the way to understand, through enquiry, one's true
nature.

'I'-consciousness cannot be the body or the mind because both are
different or non-existent as in dream and deep sleep
respectively. Once this false notion is negated, one is off the
mental movement.

Only this search for the source of the mind can end its
restlessness. The object-oriented world in which it is now caught
up can never give peace to a mind because "there is no place
like home".

Ramana points out that just as raindrops risen from the sea
cannot rest until they reach the ocean (home) or as a bird must
return to its 'earthly perch' at night... the mind "may
through various ways, self-chosen wander aimlessly for a while,
but cannot rest till it rejoins you Arunachala, the source."

Ramana's emphasis is on the unitary nature of the mind in
contrast to its present divisive state, always thinking in terms
of the opposites - good and bad, ignorance and knowledge, rich
and poor.

Self enquiry is the search for the source of the mind by the
mind. In Arunachala Pancharatnam he says: "If one enters
within, enquiring, 'Wherefrom does this 'I' arise?' he dissolves
in his own true nature and merges in you, Arunachala, as a river
in the ocean."