Into Darkness ties to Star Trek XIII?

I remember reading that Abrams and co. thought about ending Star Trek with a shot of the S.S. Botany Bay floating in space. It would have been a similar sequel set up to the Joker card at the end of Batman Begins or the map to the fountain of youth at the end of Pirates of the Carribean: At World's End, or the post-credits scenes in all the Marvel superhero movies.

Should Into Darkness include a similar set up or tease for Star Trek XIII? I think this trilogy should be a real trilogy, not three sets of totally unrelated events that just happen to involve the Enterprise crew (looking at you, TNG movies). I want continuing themes and lasting repercussions.

An entertaining movie is spades above any fanwank, connecting the dots or lead-in to another sequel. Marvel does it well, I supposed, but I want to watch a movie that will tell an entire story that doesn't really depend on me knowing what happened before or what will happen after.

I'm not a big fan of the post-credits scenes thing.
And I don't really care if they have something at the end that could be used to lead to the 3rd movie, as long as the story of STID is wrapped up. No cliffhangers, please.

I'm not a big fan of the post-credits scenes thing.
And I don't really care if they have something at the end that could be used to lead to the 3rd movie, as long as the story of STID is wrapped up. No cliffhangers, please.

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NO NO NO! Cliffhangers. PLEASE!!! Means we get another Trek by the Bad Robot group. A fantastic TV and movie production company ( I am not listing this stuff again. Lost Fringe. Nuff said). ST3 with Orci directing and JJ producing. Yes PLEASE!

I'm not a big fan of the post-credits scenes thing.
And I don't really care if they have something at the end that could be used to lead to the 3rd movie, as long as the story of STID is wrapped up. No cliffhangers, please.

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NO NO NO! Cliffhangers. PLEASE!!! Means we get another Trek by the Bad Robot group.

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If it makes money, we will get more.
Having or not having cliffhangers has nothing to do with it.

I remember reading that Abrams and co. thought about ending Star Trek with a shot of the S.S. Botany Bay floating in space. It would have been a similar sequel set up to the Joker card at the end of Batman Begins or the map to the fountain of youth at the end of Pirates of the Carribean: At World's End, or the post-credits scenes in all the Marvel superhero movies.

Should Into Darkness include a similar set up or tease for Star Trek XIII? I think this trilogy should be a real trilogy, not three sets of totally unrelated events that just happen to involve the Enterprise crew (looking at you, TNG movies). I want continuing themes and lasting repercussions.

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I doubt it. Beside Kirk doesn't meet Khan until 8 years after events that take place in the up coming movie. Also, in Space Seed, they don't know who Khan was. On the other hand. If Kirk meet Khan some years before the events in Space Seed? Then it would explain how Khan got the delta badge.

Bill - I think it is confirmed Bad Robot is doing 1 more at least. So we're good there. And I really think Cumberbatch (who is now kinda a big deal) may survive this to play a part in 13. It makes sense. I am a DUDE and I squee over that guy. I think he is a "specialist" that is a tool in the greater Starfleet conspiracy. I follow Orci at the other site. He is OBSESSED with conspiracy shit.

I'm not a big fan of the post-credits scenes thing.
And I don't really care if they have something at the end that could be used to lead to the 3rd movie, as long as the story of STID is wrapped up. No cliffhangers, please.

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NO NO NO! Cliffhangers. PLEASE!!! Means we get another Trek by the Bad Robot group.

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If it makes money, we will get more.
Having or not having cliffhangers has nothing to do with it.

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You are correct. What I am saying is we should have no worries that if we are left hanging a bit, the same team will bring us a resolution. Unless Lindelof is charge. Then it could very well be a WTF ending.

I say that as a guy who quite liked the ending to Lost. But the "mysteries" created were so obviously a case of writing themselves into a corner. They had ZERO end game in mind from Dharma on. Let's hope Trek has more foresight than Prometheus.

Anyway, so far Abrams & co have been all about doing standalone stories that anyone can jump in, with no knowledge of what came before.
There will still be ties between movies and themes but nothing that says you absolutely must have watched the previous stuff.

Anyway, so far Abrams & co have been all about doing standalone stories that anyone can jump in, with no knowledge of what came before.
There will still be ties between movies and themes but nothing that says you absolutely must have watched the previous stuff.

I doubt that will change now.

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That is an excellent point. Business of selling tickets. I hate reality.

I doubt there will be a true Hardyesque "Mr. Worf, fire!" cliffhanger. AFAIK, the only film to ever do anything close to that was the second Matrix film. However, I've been saying all along that I fully suspect STiD will end on a "soft" (for lack of a better term) cliff along the lines of ESB or TDK.

STiD's plot will be fully contained, but there will be unresolved plot feelers that set-up ST3.