people gotta remember, not only are cameras everywhere, but at what angle they are at

as for A&M beating Bama, holy smokes!
wasn't this team like the worst in the big 12 (along with Baylor beside last year) for the last 20 some odd years? then first year in SEC they beat the defending national champs - IN THEIR HOUSE - with a redshirt freshmen? what a wacky world we live in!

i almost feel bad for the A&M QB (Manziel right?). he's probably never gonna be a hotter commodity than right now / this season and he can't enter the draft lol (saying this believing they have to play 2 or 3 years, unlike college b-ball)

I've always thought Kiffin was an arrogant prick. But a lot of the stuff he pulls plenty of other quality coaches pull. Urban Meyer acted like a spoiled brat all the time at UF. But I suppose 2 national titles cuts you some slack.

Right now, I think Manziel has a very good shot at being the first freshman Heisman award winner.

Geno will still be up there, but I think his team's complete collapse has greatly hurt his chances.

It's Klein's to lose at this point. Manziel has had a great freshman season, but I think Klein has been better this season. It's great to see Texas A&M so competitive in the SEC, that was a great addition for the conference. Kevin Sumlin has done a great job with this team, he seems to have been the right man for the job without question.

It's Klein's to lose at this point. Manziel has had a great freshman season, but I think Klein has been better this season. It's great to see Texas A&M so competitive in the SEC, that was a great addition for the conference. Kevin Sumlin has done a great job with this team, he seems to have been the right man for the job without question.

Have you looked at the stats? Manziel has more passing yards (2780 vs 2020), more rushing yards (1014 vs 748), more passing TDs (18 vs 12). Only thing he's down on are rushing TDs (15 vs 19) and INTs (6 vs 3).

Not to mention, one is doing it in a conference with no defense, and the other in a conference with some of the best defenses.

Have you looked at the stats? Manziel has more passing yards (2780 vs 2020), more rushing yards (1014 vs 748), more passing TDs (18 vs 12). Only thing he's down on are rushing TDs (15 vs 19) and INTs (6 vs 3).

Not to mention, one is doing it in a conference with no defense, and the other in a conference with some of the best defenses.

I'm well aware of the stats, but I don't see him winning if Kansas State goes undefeated. Klein leading Kansas State to the national title game will get him a ton of first place votes. It's his Heisman to lose at this point.

I, personally, think the Big 12 has been closer to the SEC than SEC homers will ever be willing to admit. And I think Texas A&M proves it. Yes, they had only "good" losses last year. But that's kind of the point, the Big 12 has enough "good" teams to give them several "good" losses.

On the other hand, I believe that the best coaches in the nation are in the SEC, which is why they have such bowl success. Bowls, being so far removed from the regular season, are all about coaching and preparation IMHO.

*EDIT* And, in fact, saying that the 4th place team in the SEC would be #1 in the Big 12 is exactly the arrogance all SEC homers display. :P

I'd like to see Oregon run the table at this point. ND can lose. I was glad to Alabama take a loss this weekend as well.

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