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I read some of Brubaker's Cap, but I didn't even consider it a retcon. These days practically every Marvel character is grittier than they used to be whether through a retcon or by just ignoring past continuity. I didn't think Cap was any different. I was still hoping we'd get classic Cap in the movie and not the one from JoeyQ's NuMarvel where you're not a true hero unless you're unlikable & have no problem killing villains.

the retcon really centered around bucky. instead of him being a plucky 16 year old, they made him an adult, special ops. the kid bucky persona was for the folks back home. same with cap.

they didn't change modern steve rogers. they just explained that the old comics weren't representations of cap and bucky in ww2.

in the modern age, cap only kills when completely necessary (and i can't even recall who he last killed). bucky on the other hand...

i'm not going to argue with you about likeability. that's your opinion and that's fine.

I'd guess the girl on the bat bike was her stunt double. I doubt they'd let Hathaway drive a motorcycle down a set of steps covered with people.

ok...what i'm saying is that these are 2 shots from a scene where there's a riot on the steps of some building. the same character is doing 2 different things during this riot. in one, she is walking down the steps in her alter ego. in the other, she is driving down the steps.

ok...what i'm saying is that these are 2 shots from a scene where there's a riot on the steps of some building. the same character is doing 2 different things during this riot. in one, she is walking down the steps in her alter ego. in the other, she is driving down the steps.

it's more likely it's 2 different scenes. just looked weird to me.

I doubt its 2 scenes. The picture where she's walking down the steps doesn't look like part of the movie. It just looks like Anne Hathaway is just on the set, but not in costume. It looks like she might be carrying a script.

They're probably blocking out the scene where Catwoman (stuntwoman) is on the bike and Anne is on the set as well.

they didn't change modern steve rogers. they just explained that the old comics weren't representations of cap and bucky in ww2.

in the modern age, cap only kills when completely necessary (and i can't even recall who he last killed). bucky on the other hand...

i'm not going to argue with you about likeability. that's your opinion and that's fine.

I'm sorry, but when Cap is kicking S.H.I.E.L.D. agents out of moving vehicles into oncoming traffic or hunting endangered species as an excuse to have a "heart-to-heart" with Cyclops, that is not the Captain America from the past 60 + years. Neither of those even happened in a Brubaker comic.

I doubt its 2 scenes. The picture where she's walking down the steps doesn't look like part of the movie. It just looks like Anne Hathaway is just on the set, but not in costume. It looks like she might be carrying a script.

They're probably blocking out the scene where Catwoman (stuntwoman) is on the bike and Anne is on the set as well.

look in the background. there are guys fighting in both pics (at least it looks like it).

Ok my cusin works for MLB and they sent them down this weekend to Pittsburg to be extras in the new batman and in the scene at Heinz field are you ready for this

The riddler............Yes the riddler is I the movie

He tears up the field while the gotham team is playing.

Now it's not known if is the ending a flash back or a tv scene while batman is on hiatus.. But the riddler is in it.

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Meh. I prefer her with the short hair and cowl, but for about a year now I've been expecting the pendulum to swing back to the longer hair and a more Julie Newmar appearance overall (which isn't bad either). The performances have been stronger than the costumes in the Nolan movies though, at least for me.

I was driving east on I-40 today through Knoxville and I look over in the west bound lane and there were four big rig trucks hauling SWAT vans and police cars that said "Gotham SWAT" and "Gotham PD". I did some looking around on-line and they are the same that has been on-set. Neat stuff.

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So this movie takes place 8 years after the events of the last movie. Interesting. This could be good in the way that he'll be a far more grizzled and established world's greatest detective Batman from the start of the film.

Other interesting notes on Bane in the article, including why he wears that face mask.

What the heck is Bane saying in that trailer? "When Gotham is ashes, you have my permission to die"?

Interesting look and feel. I honestly think this saga ends/will reboot stuff it's a huge waste of a series that could keep going. But whatever, I hope the next Batman doesn't sound like he's got a cold and that someone does right by Grayson/Robin/Nightwing and Barbara Gordon on the big screen. Eventually we've got to have someone who can make a good movie and likes those characters.

1- "The Dark Knight" is the greatest movie of all the times.
2- "Rises" will be vastly inferior, but nonetheless a compelling and epic work of art.
3- The trailer made me a happy man.
4- This is the end. You cannot top what Nolan did. Batman will be over for the next 1000 years.

I preface this with the fact that I have not enjoyed any of the Nolan Batman Films.

I wasn't feeling this trailer. The Bruce/Selena dance sequence immediately reminded me of Batman Returns (a movie I love), Bane looks weird, and why was there so much football in the trailer? Snooze. I say that even with the fact they used my hometown stadium for the scenes.

Anyway, I'll still see the movie regardless. I've always loved Batman; I just can't seem to get in to these new ones.

I've seen the trailer and I have mixed emotions, but I did felt the same with "The Dark Knight", and I was wrong.

Something that I cannot avoid is the darker tone that the series seems to hint, which worries me. There are rumors that leads to believe that Batman may die at the end of the film. He does look tired in both trailers when Bane goes melee with him and makes me think for the worst.

Alfred walking with a cane is very "Dark Knight Returns", the same with Gordon in bed as shown in the previous teaser. Both images are quite depressing.

Worst than Batman dying, which I really fear, is that he may go public. The combat scenes in the street are also in some way familiar to TDKR, when there's the EMP and Batman saves Gotham riding a horse, subduing the insurrection arisen in despair.

BTW, has anyone else noticed that at the stadium people hanging their Gotham Rogues hand made signs, they have the Robin "R"?