I'm certainly one. My hair type is of 3c/4a, it would be nice to start up on this site as well as I frequent this one more then british curlies. I try to get over there every now and again but I'm somehow addicted so-to-speak to this site, maybe because it's the first one I found when going natural

Yeaaaaaah!!!!!
Hello Ladies! So happy to know there are more of you out there! I had migrated to the 4a NC main board, but if we can all get together here that would be great! Maybe we should ask the NC admin if they can set up boards by hair type for the Eurocurlies....what do we think????

In the mean time let' just get chatting!!!!

Right now my big problem is hair coming out in what i consider to be clumps when i detangle wet. I can literally just pull my hair out of my head. I don't really comb it in between washes so i'm wondeing if the amount i loose is normal - about a medium size handful at a time.

Right now my big problem is hair coming out in what i consider to be clumps when i detangle wet. I can literally just pull my hair out of my head. I don't really comb it in between washes so i'm wondeing if the amount i loose is normal - about a medium size handful at a time.

Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by chenaj

It could be a combination of not combing regularly and your moisture vs protein balance. Does the hair have a lil bulb at one end?

I've found amla treatments and alternating between a moisturising conditioner and a protein conditioner for cowashing has helped my shedding. I only comb on wash days also, with conditioner in my hair. It could be that your hair can't take the wet combing?

I'm a U.K girl 3c/4a, living in Belgium until next month. Just popping in to say hi!

And...

I'm having alot of problems with shedding and breakage at the moment. Does anyone know whether this is due to the change in weather? I always had bad dandruff (eww) every time the seasons changed when I was relaxed, but now I'm transitioning, that has stopped. So I'm wondering if the cause in shedding is down to the season change?

I think the breakage is due to rough handling. Bad habits are hard to shake.

Right now my big problem is hair coming out in what i consider to be clumps when i detangle wet. I can literally just pull my hair out of my head. I don't really comb it in between washes so i'm wondeing if the amount i loose is normal - about a medium size handful at a time.

Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by chenaj

It could be a combination of not combing regularly and your moisture vs protein balance. Does the hair have a lil bulb at one end?

I've found amla treatments and alternating between a moisturising conditioner and a protein conditioner for cowashing has helped my shedding. I only comb on wash days also, with conditioner in my hair. It could be that your hair can't take the wet combing?

Originally Posted by Lyoness

Yessssssss!!!! I have loads of little bulbs of hair at the ends. What is that?????? Why is that????

I have read in other forums that cleansing and/or DT with garlic stops the shedding. I found a garlic shampoo on Amazon but its in the US and i don't feel like paying the postage, additionally i'm just not that keen on rubbing garlic +olive oil in my hair for a DT, no matter how much I'm shedding LOL!!!

Lyoness, my hair is supa dupa protein sensitive,so i dunno if alternating with a protein treatment is a good idea... Alma, i used to use it, but it left bits in my hair nd made my scalp itch....what do you do?

Right now my big problem is hair coming out in what i consider to be clumps when i detangle wet. I can literally just pull my hair out of my head. I don't really comb it in between washes so i'm wondeing if the amount i loose is normal - about a medium size handful at a time.

Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by chenaj

It could be a combination of not combing regularly and your moisture vs protein balance. Does the hair have a lil bulb at one end?

I've found amla treatments and alternating between a moisturising conditioner and a protein conditioner for cowashing has helped my shedding. I only comb on wash days also, with conditioner in my hair. It could be that your hair can't take the wet combing?

Originally Posted by Lyoness

Yessssssss!!!! I have loads of little bulbs of hair at the ends. What is that?????? Why is that????

I have read in other forums that cleansing and/or DT with garlic stops the shedding. I found a garlic shampoo on Amazon but its in the US and i don't feel like paying the postage, additionally i'm just not that keen on rubbing garlic +olive oil in my hair for a DT, no matter how much I'm shedding LOL!!!

Lyoness, my hair is supa dupa protein sensitive,so i dunno if alternating with a protein treatment is a good idea... Alma, i used to use it, but it left bits in my hair nd made my scalp itch....what do you do?

Originally Posted by chenaj

The bulb means is shedding rather than breakage, this thread is a bit of a read but there is alot of info. There's a little test to help you figure out how to react to your hair. There are varying degrees of how heavy a protein is so bare that in mind when you do pick a protein treatment. I tend to mix amla to the consistency of mashed potato and leave it to sit awhile before I apply it. when I apply it I only apply it to the strands. Amla and henna have helped me with shedding but everyone is different.

Garlic tablets might help if you don't fancy paying those charges? I had a quick google try this thread and this thread also for what others have tried. I know you said you don't want to rub/dc with it but it seems to help.

It could be a combination of not combing regularly and your moisture vs protein balance. Does the hair have a lil bulb at one end?

I've found amla treatments and alternating between a moisturising conditioner and a protein conditioner for cowashing has helped my shedding. I only comb on wash days also, with conditioner in my hair. It could be that your hair can't take the wet combing?

Originally Posted by Lyoness

Yessssssss!!!! I have loads of little bulbs of hair at the ends. What is that?????? Why is that????

I have read in other forums that cleansing and/or DT with garlic stops the shedding. I found a garlic shampoo on Amazon but its in the US and i don't feel like paying the postage, additionally i'm just not that keen on rubbing garlic +olive oil in my hair for a DT, no matter how much I'm shedding LOL!!!

Lyoness, my hair is supa dupa protein sensitive,so i dunno if alternating with a protein treatment is a good idea... Alma, i used to use it, but it left bits in my hair nd made my scalp itch....what do you do?

Originally Posted by chenaj

The bulb means is shedding rather than breakage, this thread is a bit of a read but there is alot of info. There's a little test to help you figure out how to react to your hair. There are varying degrees of how heavy a protein is so bare that in mind when you do pick a protein treatment. I tend to mix amla to the consistency of mashed potato and leave it to sit awhile before I apply it. when I apply it I only apply it to the strands. Amla and henna have helped me with shedding but everyone is different.

Garlic tablets might help if you don't fancy paying those charges? I had a quick google try this thread and this thread also for what others have tried. I know you said you don't want to rub/dc with it but it seems to help.

Hopefully someone else will help too!

oh p.s I got my amla etc from spices of india in case you're in need

Originally Posted by Lyoness

Hey Lyoness!
Thanks for all the info! I'm off to get my mix on! Can't decide if i'm going to do a garlic DT or just a straight garlic condish. Will let you know the results!

Right now my big problem is hair coming out in what i consider to be clumps when i detangle wet. I can literally just pull my hair out of my head. I don't really comb it in between washes so i'm wondeing if the amount i loose is normal - about a medium size handful at a time.

Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by chenaj

How often do you wash/detangle your hair? And how long is it? Your hair looks quite long as far as I can tell from the avatar...long hair could also look like a lot of hair when it comes out.
My mother - who is a former hair dresser - always told me since I was a little girl that we shed more in autumn ...this could also be a reason.

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Ok. so last night i did the garlic treatment for shedding. I decided to add it to a henna gloss, casue henna is supposed to ba a remedy for shedding too.

Here's what i did.

1 clove garlic cooked for 1-2 min in 3 tablespoons extra virgin organic coconut oil. Left it to sit for about 10-15 min. Then pressed the garlic to release the goodness and strained it inot my henna gloss mix

henna gloss - about 6 scoops cassia (white henna) each scoop is about tablespoons (the scoop came with the henna). Added cold water until its a clay-like consitency. Then add 2 tablespoons honey, garlic/coconut oil and condish (in this case Asda Jojoba condish) and mixed until creamy.

This made about 500ml of garlic/henna treatment

Washed hair - (low poo - 50%AOHSR+50%AOIN , had loads of stuff in it needed a good wash)

Applied garlic henna mix. Wrapped head in foil paper and put a plastic bag over that! I looked crazy, my 8 month old was cracking up with laughter everytime he saw me! LOL

Let it sit for 30 min then rinsed with warm water and then applied a rinse out condish to detangle (AOIN)

I have to say that i did shed, but it was significantly less that my normal shedload! Usually i shed about a ping- pong ball size of hair when i wash or comb wet, but this time i was able to count the hairs as the floated away and what came out in my comb was noy that much by comparison. I would say that overall i shed about 1/4 of what normally comes out.

I was hoping for no shedding at all, beacsue in the threads that Lyoness posted everyone said they stopped shedding after the fist application. But then again they used it straight or added it to their condish. Anyway, everyone is diffrent.

I sectioned my hair into 4, applied shea butter to each section then my winter leave - in condish/cream which is divine BTW, then did a couple twists and went to bed.

When i woke up this morning, my hair was soft and shiney. I found no hairs in the bed and when I undid my twists i only shed 1 or 2 hairs. Usually i can't manupulate my hair that much when its dry casue i just loose hair like crazy.

On reflection, i think i will do both treatments seperately the next time because I could not tell what was working or not working, or if the combo of both was just too much for my hair to handle.

So there you have it ladies! I will do another straight gralic/coconut oil treatment in 2 weeks time and the henna gloss next month and let you know what happens.

Right now my big problem is hair coming out in what i consider to be clumps when i detangle wet. I can literally just pull my hair out of my head. I don't really comb it in between washes so i'm wondeing if the amount i loose is normal - about a medium size handful at a time.

Any thoughts?

Originally Posted by chenaj

How often do you wash/detangle your hair? And how long is it? Your hair looks quite long as far as I can tell from the avatar...long hair could also look like a lot of hair when it comes out.
My mother - who is a former hair dresser - always told me since I was a little girl that we shed more in autumn ...this could also be a reason.

Originally Posted by GermanCurly

Hi GermanCurly,
Well, to be honest, about 4-5 months ago i went from washing and detangling only once a month, to every week! Maybe my hair just can't take it and i should go back to once a month!

My hair stretched out is mid-back length, just under my shoulder blades. I did the BC in 2004 and have been natural ever since. I have always co-washed, but that was it. Never did DT's, made my own moisturisers and never used stylers.

Then, I became pregnant in 2007 with my first baby and my hair started to misbehave. It became very , very VERY thickkkkkkk and dryyyyyyyy, but i did not shed at all. However, after my second baby 9 months ago, i started to shed like crazy. I actually stopped combing my hair casue i was terrified i would end up bald!

I just started getting comfy with my hair again about 4 -5 months ago and that is when i joined this forum.

I'm glad the garlic treatment worked for you! But it's impossible not to shed at all. We lose about 50-100 hairs a day.
And if your hair is MBL - OMG, that's awesome - and you only detangle once a week a pingpong ball amount of shed hair doesn't sound much to me.
Curlynikki recently did this post about shedding after a pregnancy. Maybe you will find some helpful tips there, too.

Do you have a fotki?

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I'm based in London and I have kinky/curly hair. After reading (and rereading) all the threads on hair type I am still confused lol! But from looking at foktis I would say I am a 3c/4a with porous hair that is now almost apl stretched.

I've been natural off and on for 15 years but have been lured by texturizers in the past (lies, don't do it!). This time its been 3 years since gave up on the hype and I am better informed and determined to stick natural!

V. interesting about shedding after preg. I have a 6month son and my hair didn't shed noticably more during or after birth. But my skin, oh no! I was a scaly lizard woman after he was born.

Happy to connect to other Euro 4a's. We can't get the same products as in the US and the weather is a whole different story! I have some henna to trade which I will describe in a separate post.

I'm glad the garlic treatment worked for you! But it's impossible not to shed at all. We lose about 50-100 hairs a day.
And if your hair is MBL - OMG, that's awesome - and you only detangle once a week a pingpong ball amount of shed hair doesn't sound much to me.
Curlynikki recently did this post about shedding after a pregnancy. Maybe you will find some helpful tips there, too.

Do you have a fotki?

Originally Posted by GermanCurly

Hi German Curly!
You know what really freaks me out is the fact that i can just pull strands of hair out from my ends - that's what i call shedding. I know, we "shed" 50-100 hairs a day, but its the additional hairs that just come away with frightning ease in my hands when styling or detangling that i find problematic. Does anyone else have that issue?

I had a fokti, but then i got an automated message saying my account had expired????? I'll have to check if its still active - if i can remember the password!!! LOL

So, since the garlic-henna treatment, less strands come away in my hands, but i still have a long way to go. Plus, apparently breastfeeding can add to the shedding!

I'm based in London and I have kinky/curly hair. After reading (and rereading) all the threads on hair type I am still confused lol! But from looking at foktis I would say I am a 3c/4a with porous hair that is now almost apl stretched.

I've been natural off and on for 15 years but have been lured by texturizers in the past (lies, don't do it!). This time its been 3 years since gave up on the hype and I am better informed and determined to stick natural!

V. interesting about shedding after preg. I have a 6month son and my hair didn't shed noticably more during or after birth. But my skin, oh no! I was a scaly lizard woman after he was born.

Happy to connect to other Euro 4a's. We can't get the same products as in the US and the weather is a whole different story! I have some henna to trade which I will describe in a separate post.

Originally Posted by catgurl

Welcome Catgurl!
I too have been natural for 15 years on and off and have been totally natural for the last 5!

You know, i had no shedding with my first preg, only with my second.

V. intersting you should mention the weather. I read someting somewhere a few years ago about using products for skin and hair that are made with local/ regional ingredients because they respond better if you do. It was really interesting. I'll try and find it again and post the link.