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i have a pair of 2 year old deerhound/greyhound x bedlington/greyhound X bull/greyhound x saluki/greyhound x whippet bitches, one has had a decent amount of work as i got her back at 18 months old, the other was mine from birth and was babied a bit too much and is now massive wimp and still hasnt had a catch of her own. both of my bitches had been trained quite well and were broken to small people, pigeons/birds, ferrets and 1 was broken to cats, but now they both pull like mental towards cats, jump up at our aviary and have went for my older jill a couple of times.me and my sister in-law are starting to take them out this year lamping and with the ferrets but their retrieving has gone terrible and i dont know how to recover it 1 bitch does victory laps and the other lays down and if you get within 10 feet of her she does 1 and the only person who manages to get her back is my 2 year old niece. i have tried going back to basics with them in an alley first with a ball and also with a dummy but they just seem to be getting worse and i would like to be able to chuck the 4 dogs in the truck, grab my ferrets go out and not be worried of being embarresed by my dogs playing up and wasting time

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Sounds as though you need to be more of a boss and less of a friend to them. Dogs will behave as you allow them to behave, and unless you are a strong pack leader, more than one can take the p*ss and do their own thing: one dog on its own is a completely different thing to having two together. It does sound as though they don't have any respect for you. I'd recommend speaking to Jim Greenwood http://www.jandjgreenwood.co.uk/ if you really want to turn things around. Without seeing both you and the dogs together it is hard to offer the right sort of advice over the internet.

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thanks, i am trying to be a bit stricter and less of a pushover and they are getting better but they are still a complete nuisance when it comes to retrieving i have tried doing 1 to 1 with them but the only problem is that the bitch who was mine from the beginning if she sees me take one of the other dogs she puts her head back and starts howling at the top of her lungs and i have tried them with citrus collars different brands of electric shock collar as well as an old fashioned rolled up newspaper but nothing works with the idiot and my dad is threatening to get rid of her if she keeps it up

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I have a springer pup here at moment who started howling when I took older dog beating -few buckets of cold water soon sorted that out -or you could have a nice big marrow bone handy & throw that to it and it should occupy it enough to settle it down one on one would be my solution to other probs with more assertiveness-billy

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yeah the only problem with the bucket of water is they are crated in pairs so it wouldnt be fair on the other dog and they are also inside n pand hasnt got a problem with howling it iust dip when i try to take pand on her own

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I have a springer pup here at moment who started howling when I took older dog beating -few buckets of cold water soon sorted that out -or you could have a nice big marrow bone handy & throw that to it and it should occupy it enough to settle it down one on one would be my solution to other probs with more assertiveness-billy

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we have 4 dogs that are crated in the porch which are an 8 year old bitch (mum),an 8 year old dog (dad) and 2 bitches out of that litter and we also have an old retired dog that is kenneled as he isn't a fan of the other dog

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i have a pair of 2 year old deerhound/greyhound x bedlington/greyhound X bull/greyhound x saluki/greyhound x whippet bitches, one has had a decent amount of work as i got her back at 18 months old, the other was mine from birth and was babied a bit too much and is now massive wimp and still hasnt had a catch of her own. both of my bitches had been trained quite well and were broken to small people, pigeons/birds, ferrets and 1 was broken to cats, but now they both pull like mental towards cats, jump up at our aviary and have went for my older jill a couple of times.me and my sister in-law are starting to take them out this year lamping and with the ferrets but their retrieving has gone terrible and i dont know how to recover it 1 bitch does victory laps and the other lays down and if you get within 10 feet of her she does 1 and the only person who manages to get her back is my 2 year old niece. i have tried going back to basics with them in an alley first with a ball and also with a dummy but they just seem to be getting worse and i would like to be able to chuck the 4 dogs in the truck, grab my ferrets go out and not be worried of being embarresed by my dogs playing up and wasting time

seems to me you got to much to handle,pet home one and concentrate on the other that has seen a bit of work things only going to get worse from what im reading,good luck