An FPS would be good, but get too RPG and you'll ruin it. It's not Stargate if you're some faceless nobody doing unimportant fetch quests. It would be an absolute waste of a franchise license. It'd be worse than getting the Conan the Barbarian license and then making a survival game with it.

10mm has the kick of a .357 but is no more effective at stopping than the 9mm (half that of the 357). Any cops still using 10 are going back to 9mm and the military forces are shifting back to either .45 or a PDW rifle cartridge.

3 months ago

Justin Roberts

10mm has the kick of a .357 but is no more effective at stopping than the 9mmSource?

3 months ago

Logan Watson

People who dont think this is the best shotgun in all games have not used the gun before.

the idea was pretty much justlet's make a gun that complies with every single meme russian regulation but can still be used for gangsters to shoot each other with20gabolt action2-4 round magazinefolding stock disconnects trigger

Too bad you're wrong, I'm here to ruin your fun.G3Heavier than necessaryFALInaccurateM14Outdated designDirect impingement doesn't shit where it eats, most of the gas is vented out the sides of the bolt carrier. Roller-delayed blowback LITERALLY means that gas is vented out of the chamber back into the receiver.

Kek, don't tell me you actually use this piece of shit? This thing shoots baked beans, eat 7.62 you bastard.

3 months ago

Jeremiah Howard

The rollers are there there to delay the bolt's cycling enough for pressure levels to drop safely. Then the bolt flies backward, and along with it, any gas that's still there. While it's not ALL of the gas, it's plenty of it. I also hate the fact that if you don't have a brass deflector, it bends the fuck out of casings. Fuck that.Okay, buddy.image very related

I like all the ww2 era weapons a lot. M1 Garand, Kar 98, Tommy, MP40, Luger, etc. Pic related in particular, I'm not sure if I've played a game where it's actually not great. Sure it always has a bunch of recoil but it slaps and that makes it fun.

because its fucking fun and cheap as shit, plus low weight/high ergo weapons are actually kinda nice now

eventually probably, the main thing is they need to add fucking plate hitboxes instead of the entire thing being armoredI know nikita said somewhere they are going to do it eventually, but fuck knows when

3 months ago

Adam Bailey

"The armour situation" do you mean the tarkov situation, I can still only run factory the FPS is that bad on every other map and I think the armour is in a good place right now, they have more health and they actually feel like they do shit, helmets are pretty dope rn too

3 months ago

Brandon Thompson

Fuck forgot I had that image renaming option on. FG42

3 months ago

Connor Lopez

M1 Garand is probably the first time I found a gun cool.

3 months ago

Landon Diaz

Meh I care little for cheap stuff im only like like 13 in this patch but have my stash full of fort, ops core all the big run stuff

3 months ago

Benjamin Wood

I like to use shotguns in most of the games since they deal a lot of damage, but I like using sniper rifles too sometimes. As for assault rifles, i preffer the AK's.

3 months ago

Hudson Bennett

Yee, am replaying fallout 4 and I'm using a modded in M1 and it's great

also at some point soontm they are planning to add removable plates for carriers instead of the whole thing being one unit, so maybe they will add the hitboxes when that happens

not saving all your shekels to invest in market manipulation schemes to make even more shekelsI almost never run anything more than a blackrock and paca because fuck spending shekels and FUCK moving slow

3 months ago

Ian Wright

See, this guy gets it

3 months ago

Leo Carter

I think you need to take that famas to the vet man

3 months ago

Juan Scott

It's PING you thick fuck

3 months ago

Luke Nelson

Easily the best gun in Cod 4

3 months ago

Nathaniel Hill

Spending shecklesI wear the gear of fallen dudes i moisin in the face or trade BlackRock for an ak and just charge round factory and nick everyone's shit

be me in 2009 never played a fps in my life , friends make me play cod 4 and then like that i became obsessed with that game played from 2009 to 2014 on private servers non stop and the M4a1 because of this game is my favorite , wish the servers of that game on my region were more active today the remastered cod 4 is dead here (argentina) and the orginal game get very very few people on the servers

It's called "aesthetic" you probably wouldn't know about it. But if you want to criticise the way something looks, maybe the Australian Army's previous standard issue SMG will be more to your liking.The camo paint job is apparently factory standard.

rising storm 2AUS army is full of shit weapons including that smgcan't see shit because the mag is upside downFAL kicks like a mule and doesn't have nearly the stopping power of m14they don't get spook, instead get shitty carpet bomb

Truly the worst at war.

3 months ago

Julian Brown

They were heavily advised by the Air Force I think, probably got told it's the weapon they should be using later on. In earlier seasons, they were using the MP5.

3 months ago

Jordan Nelson

straight and white why would I ever touch this

3 months ago

Brody Martinez

I wish more revolver went for a full on blocky barrel cover rather than a simple ugly tube.

fucking awful reticle designed for the LMG and they just didnt bother making another version when they decided to put it on rifleschinese tier mount breaks right off the second you catch it on anythingheavy as shitadjustments in the most awkward place to reach and get locked up if any dirt gets on itloses zero if you touch it>canadians actually have to use this garbage lmao

3 months ago

Ethan Hughes

If I ever got a gun, it'd probably be this one. If nothing else but for the aesthetics

3 months ago

Wyatt Cox

The M16 is always the middle of the road balanced gun for all distances.

The M16A4 then improves upon it with recoil and spread-advantaged burst mode, uually better stats than simply shooting 3 round bursts in the regular gun's full auto.

That's because everytime a game have a "reliability" mechanic, it's just the condition of the gun that degrade overtime, rather than taking shit like weather and environment as a variable.If implemented properly it would actually be a fantastic mechanics for games like STALKER.

3 months ago

Gabriel Wilson

stick a rail on the front to cover up the 16 inch cuckbarrelheavily modified

Best of all, many games (like BF3) have no RPM limiter on it because the Dev's didn't want to script an exception for the burst. So you can just spam the burst full auto with Autohotkey and still keep the spread and recoil bonuses.

It may not have an obvious application but it isn't purposeless. When the diameter gets large enough that the line of action is way above the fulcrum, the mateba design doesn't look bad. You know damn well that that absurdity would be more controllable.

It was a pretty good and reliable weapon in Uncharted 2. I used it in every chance I had.

3 months ago

Aaron Davis

No, it wouldn't. I really don't think you understand this round.

We're talking 8,400 ft⋅lbs of force. That doesn't mean anything without a frame of reference. Let me put that in perspective. My .45 super (essentially a double overpressure .45 ACP) which comes with all kinds of warnings like "don't shoot this if you don't know what you're doing or you will blow up your gun, face and hands" tops out at about 600 ft lbs. A respectable full power rifle cartridge like standard NATO 7.62x51 m80 comes in at under 2500 ft⋅lbs. Compare that to a ludicrous pistol caliber like .500 S&W magnum, which tops out a bit under 3,000 ft⋅lbs of force. A crazy magnum rifle caliber like .338 Lapua comes in around 5,000 ft⋅lbs. This is an insane round which is suitable for sniping at distances greater than a mile, is capable of killing any animal that currently or has ever walked the earth. This round has a recorded kill at 2707 meters. This is a round that will fuck your shoulder up.

And the .600 nitro express is significantly more powerful than it. Nothing done would mitigate felt recoil in the slightest, because it's the kind of thing you can't even shoulder fire without genuinely injuring yourself if you don't really know what you're doing.

3 months ago

Hunter Sanchez

those are just drum SGsthat's like saying drum mag thompsons are revolvers too

I'll always remember Solidus Snake taking down multiplayer Metal Gear Rays in MGS2 with a modified version of this gun. I was a kid when I first played it and didn't even know it was a real weapon until I started seeing it in other games.

3 months ago

Xavier Cook

ft-lbs are units of energy, not force. You can brace yourself to somewhat handle linear recoil but you can't prevent poorly directed force from twisting the gun out of your hand. You keep reiterating that the round is absurd as if that absolves poor design or I am unaware. It is intended to be fired by a human and is fired by a human, therefore whatever can be done for the recoil should be done. That the round is absurd only makes recoil management MORE important, not irrelevant. Proper recoil management brings a round from slightly unmanageable to manageable. My very first post was entirely about the torque from an engineering standpoint so you can shut the fuck up about the raw power already.

3 months ago

Daniel Martin

it's also garbage and it's alternative, the mp5, is one of the best guns in the game

Bruh, a noname new recruit would be perfect. A FPSRPG ala Deus Ex. Have the training mission being just like pic related, the mindfuck twist would be awesome, especially if you catch on and get bonus credit for not playing along or sabotaging the training, like if you're the first one you get to help the rest of the testers fuck with the other cadets.

And again, it won't make a difference. This is a round where you give up on recoil management when it's in rifle form. There is no mitigation.

Also, again the mateba design is a shit.

3 months ago

Mason Bailey

Are you sure?

3 months ago

Samuel James

people won't stop clogging the toiletsfuck it, just leave them with their clogged toilets

3 months ago

Alexander Flores

what anime my good man

3 months ago

Caleb Ortiz

More like you're trying to bring in a plunger to unfuck a sewer line that is packed solid with 200m of wipes and diapers. Congrats, you got your waste to move beyond the p-trap. It didn't solve anything.

I have understood your point from the start and have repeatedly dismissed it as not counter to mine. The consequences are recoil are an indefinitely continuous scale and you can always lessen them with proper management. Even if you can't actually control the weapon, recoil management makes the difference between recovering from the shot and getting hit in the fucking face by a flying weapon. If you're going to go to the extreme of engineering a weapon with a fuckoff round, you should also be engineering to accommodate that fuckoff round as best as possible. I don't give a shit about the mateba but the design used is obviously dogshit. Your bullshitting about fighting the unfightable is bullshit and I say all of this as a god damn engineer. You have not a single time bothered to address the notion of torque and you can fuck off.

3 months ago

Jacob Diaz

dur they should make the recoil more manageable, it'll still be impossible to properly shoot, but they could do it!In the end you'd wind up reinventing the wheel(gun) in order to make the impossible still impossible, and in return wind up with a bottom cylinder firing revolver. Which involves more mechanical part complexity, cylinder timing problems, and fragility, which is really a great choice for an elephant handgun, yeah?

Theres a reason there is a grand total of two revolvers that work like that, and they aren't available in any extreme pressure rounds, despite you thinking that's where they'd see the most use. It's because they are universally bad, and introduce new problems to something that already works fine.

3 months ago

Logan King

please stop using this gun in BF4 i beg you im sick of being killed by it every time i die

tfw most kills in bf3 were with a shotguntfw support is always second highest level perk in both KFs

3 months ago

Lucas Campbell

insurgency sandstorm shotguns don't tickle people past 8 metres

only downside of shotgun is lack of suppression, slow reload, dealing with large groups swarming you and if you miss the first shot you've likely lost

3 months ago

Noah Williams

Same with me, I was super autistic when I played BF3 and pretty much only used the Jackhammer for some reason. Support is also my favorite KF perk, and that's great because nobody ever picks it for some reason. KF has some of the most satisfying shotguns in all of gaming.

3 months ago

Jonathan Roberts

I've played the first Insurgency and Day of Infamy and found the shotguns to be really inconsistent in both of them, I haven't played Sandstorm though.

3 months ago

Jaxon Phillips

based and redpilled, vidya choice no1

3 months ago

Xavier Barnes

I always used support and demo in KFwhy aim when I can just not aim

3 months ago

Julian Thompson

For some reason I love big chunk of plastic guns

3 months ago

Austin Bell

But you'll run out of ammo if you don't aim

3 months ago

William Miller

and yet I still remain at the top with most kills

3 months ago

Eli Gutierrez

Support and Demo need good aim though, as Support you need good aim to decapitate Scrakes and as Demo you need good aim with the RPG for killing Fleshpounds and bosses.

It's a good game for when you want to turn your brain off and kill shit, I don't recommend trying to play on Hell on Earth because it's really frustrating and you can get fucked over by the tiniest mistake unless your whole team has their shit together, which is not going to happen with randoms.

3 months ago

Nathaniel Edwards

it's not as good as kf1 but it is thoroughly enjoyable, especially with friends who aren't retarded

You can scrape by with randoms on Suicidal but you absolutely need competent players for Hell on Earth

3 months ago

Jose Williams

they've added a bunch of mechanics that can break a game if everyone's doing whatever and not working together on higher difficultieslike spawning several scrakes and some retard angers all of them at once and everyone splits up

regurgitating the "upset" responsedadblasterWhat? Are you a bot? How did you solve the captcha?

3 months ago

Aaron Long

Aint this same rifle ?Ak4 is made in Sweden. I know that HK sold license or blueprints to Swedes cause G3 is way too expensive if buying directly from HK. Aaaaand used only in 4 countrys i believe -Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia These countrys now use g36 though

Actually its braced on the middle guys shoulder and pointed skyward ready to be lowered to charge in when the guy in the middle taps the doorkicker to breach with his left hand there held up. Hand like that is also the signal for hold/ halt/wait

3 months ago

Carter Powell

Why the fuck are you calling me retarded? He's the one calling it a bad GUN because of its looks. Sure come to the thread for aesthetics all you want but don't call it a bad gun because it's slightly too smooth or whatever the fuck

FAMAS is/was every bit as good a rifle as the AUG, apart from the bit where France didn't have the industry to keep making them and properly iterate the design for their troops at large.

The Valorise is an excellent design. Once they stopped chewing brass cases there was little wrong with them.

3 months ago

Jordan Turner

This thing is so cool. Metro has some really good designs in general. Fallout 4 should have copied the looks of Metro's homemade firearms instead of making retarded looking pipe shit.

3 months ago

Oliver Cruz

I meant ak4.... Not g3

3 months ago

Luis Lopez

These countrys now use g36 thoughonly latvia and lithuania do, and latvia still uses the g3 for national guardestonia still uses the ak4 as standard issue rifle for one brigade while the other gets galils, but both are going to be replaced with a new rifle in the next year or so

probably just going to get jewed by HK again

3 months ago

Camden Miller

This is Pow Forums, where people routinely speak in hyperbole. So, when someone posts a gun they like that someone else thinks is hideous, they will call it the worst gun and make fun of that person for liking it. I didn't call you retarded; I called you an imbecile. Regardless, lurk moar, faggot - understand the place you have come to visit before you try to talk shit to people who have been immersed for years. Better yet, just take your 85 IQ ass back to whatever social media you came from.

non-modulardoes not have have a quick change barrellever delayed blowback is actually fucking retarded, the French made it work out of spite anywaybolt design in general is retarded, especially compared to the AUG's AR-derived lockup

There is a reason the only country of note to use the FAMAS is fucking France.

Valorise was as modular as a rifle needs to get, quick change barrel is a fucking meme on a main infantry weapon, and the lever delayed blowback works plenty well.

AR lockups are definitely superior though.

The FAMAS was never intended (or attempted) to be sold to other countries, so that's a real stupid metric to use. Even as they start replacing it it's unlikely they'll end up selling them in any real numbers.

Look man, the gun is so bad the French arms industry pretty much went under and hasn't been able to service their own guns for decades, instead Italy has to. And the fucking French are now buying rifles from fucking Germany.

The FAMAS is so bad it made the French do the impossible: swallow their pride.

3 months ago

Wyatt Morgan

where people routinely speak in hyperboleIt doesn't matter if there's hyperbole or not. That's beside the point. Calling a gun a bad gun because of its visuals is fucking stupid. Whether or not you are exaggerating, you're still implying it's a negative to its use as a weapon, which is faggot shit. Only faggots prefer form over function. That is the point of interjecting.Regardless, lurk moar, faggot -I've been here for 9 years you pretentious fucking cunt. You speak like you read an encylopediadramatica article on Pow Forums on your way here from reddit. Good for you, you know how people normally behave on the site and are capable of lecturing people about shit they already know. But here's a challenge: can you get your nose out of your own ass and stop inhaling your own farts for one fucking second? Because your post is the single biggest fedora tip in text form I have ever seen.

It's actually extremely comfortable and feels like you connected some cyborg part to your arm. Many times better than any non-bullpup.

3 months ago

Camden Gonzalez

Calling it the worst on the basis of form is the hyperbole, you dunce.

I've been here for 9 yearson your way here from redditfedora tipYou wrote "normally" in that post but the ones earlier reeked of "typical retard on twitter/facebook" by structure and ideas expressed like that of the common moron, which I'm tired of seeing. "Why the fuck are you calling me retarded? He's the one..." is among the most common idiot-signaling things to say.

Well that's what you get when every AAA development studio is overtaken by noguns shitlibs.Tarkov is the opposite and has the best guns in vidya

3 months ago

Easton Mitchell

I would imagine they would know not to destroy something like that.Just how difficult would it be to get your hands on one? How many hoops, legal or otherwise, did that guy jump through for it?

3 months ago

Andrew Mitchell

L85A2.Yes, I know the original 85 was fucked.No, I don't care.

3 months ago

Caleb Brooks

Imagine scrolling or backlinking to quote that four hour old post for reference, totally oblivious to the point of the post you're replying to. Calling you favorite gun ugly is just like calling your waifu shit. It's petty and meaningless and that's exactly what we do around here, so why do you give a fuck that people are posting petty and meaningless insults - enough so to bother to reply to a different four hour old post?

3 months ago

Jack Wood

It's not like its an uncommon opinion anyway.

3 months ago

Sebastian Morales

Hey, that's in RE7. Too bad for a magnum, the sound for it sucked, barely sounded different from the peashooter pistols.

Calling it the worst on the basis of form is the hyperbole, you dunceI already addressed that you subhuman nigger.Imagine scrolling or backlinking to quote that four hour old post for reference, totally oblivious to the point of the post you're replying toNice projection.

3 months ago

Samuel Richardson

I got to shoot that thing. It's horrible. The performance isn't, but the power. If you want to dislodge your shoulder, fire a mag on full auto

3 months ago

Henry Collins

And this is how we know you're a retarded nogunz faggot. The devs for rs2 had to make the adf gear suck or no one would ever play anything else. The owen smg was a redesign of the tommygun that fixed the tommies' fuckups and issues and everyone who used it loved it. The ingame model is wrong and stupid and adds mcguffins to fuck with the sighting. Fal does fire a full power rifle cartridge with kick, but its also a heavy rifle that adequately rode that kick easily controllable. She only climbed and kicked like a mule if you were a retard and magdumped woth her. If you rapid fired her, or short bursts, she hardly wiggled.

Bitch you best not be shitalking nased canberra.

3 months ago

Andrew Rivera

impossible to service in the field, no way to dissipate heat, expensive to manufacture because they needed to use Archimedes' powdered bones in every gun

3 months ago

Caleb Sanders

Nigger do you know what hyperbole means? If calling it a bad bullpup because its ugly was hyperbole, then it wasn't actually being called a bad bullpup, only particularly ugly. That isn't what projection is either, you memeword-using turbofaggot. That you gleaned nothing from "petty and meaningless" nor from the mention of hyperbole demonstrates that you are, in fact, oblivious. Your entire bitchfit is predicated on not understanding the entire premise of Pow Forums - talk mad shit in wild exaggeration with casual insults. The gun is ugly, so it gets called shit. deal with it, faggot.

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