Im not sure StL would do #2. At this point Allen, for all his gaffes, is far better than Greiss and he’s only signed for ~$1M more and 1 Season more than Greiss.

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A Greiss buyout is cheaper and shorter than an Allen buyout. I can't think of a good landing spot for Allen that wouldn't necessitate similar money going back the other way, if the Blues want to start fresh.

Even if they didn't want to make the 2nd trade, the Blues still strike me as a team with the best balance of need and assets outside of the division for Washington to look to for value.

Too small of a sample size to be worth a near top-10 pick. Freddie Anderson had a body of work and great stats to back up the supposition that he could shoulder starter duties and shoulder them well. Freddie played 43 and 54 games respectively for the Ducks; he compounded that with an impressive playoffs. He was traded for a latter first. They aren’t comparables. Neither is Schneider, at the time he was considered an elite goalie prospect AND supported that w great stats (albeit a small sample size).

So a 2nd and a 3rd it will be. If not, let another club risk a first on him.

If he proves he can’t handle starter duties and doesn’t perform them well; NYI is stuck w two backups. Not worth the 12OA.

If the Isles offer 12th it should be done deal. Its good enough of offer to forget divisional-grieves.

Other than that, if its in the 18-30 range pick(s) and its a draft day move they might wait to see whos left before moving him. If they dont have anyone special left who they want to draft they might rather take 2019 1st which they can either use at TDL or really hit a jackpot with unexpected lottery pick.

Too small of a sample size to be worth a near top-10 pick. Freddie Anderson had a body of work and great stats to back up the supposition that he could shoulder starter duties and shoulder them well. Freddie played 43 and 54 games respectively for the Ducks; he compounded that with an impressive playoffs. He was traded for a latter first. They aren’t comparables. Neither is Schneider, at the time he was considered an elite goalie prospect AND supported that w great stats (albeit a small sample size).

So a 2nd and a 3rd it will be. If not, let another club risk a first on him.

If he proves he can’t handle starter duties and doesn’t perform them well; NYI is stuck w two backups. Not worth the 12OA.

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Yeah here is the problem with that. You don't want to give up a first, but Lou has to give up the first if he really wants him. Otherwise we will trade him to Buffalo to get him out of the division.

I keep wondering why Carolina keeps shadowing Ward. If he wasn't on Carolina and on a contender he'd be one of the very best in the league. I'd gladly take him as our back-up to Steve Mason going forward.

Detroit seems like a good fit here for Grubauer given they have plenty of draft picks, such as picks 30, 33, and 36. They can then flip Howard in that case and recoup some of that. Plus Grubauer goes out of division

Caps have depth on defense, Djoos, Bowey, and Johansen. If Carlson is locked up long term and Kempny too Caps will have Orlov, Carlson, Kempny all signed for 4+ years with Niskanen coming up next year. Just enough room for the older guys and the kids to unload Siegenthaler.

Hurricanes get a goalie and the picks/prospects to build the team right.

The Cam Talbot template. The problem is if Dallas were to offer something like 44, 75 (or even 100) and 199 then the difference may not be drastic enough to move him inside the division. It doesn't necessarily need to be the 12th pick to get it done but if the offers are more uniformly of a more modest variety it stands to reason they may take other factors into consideration and just move him out West.

It's hard to say if Buffalo 100% is in the mix but there should be other teams interested, particularly if this indeed is the price range.

Detroit seems like a good fit here for Grubauer given they have plenty of draft picks, such as picks 30, 33, and 36. They can then flip Howard in that case and recoup some of that. Plus Grubauer goes out of division

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From what Larry Brooks was saying, Sounds like Lou possibly could be interested in Howard if Grubauers asking price is too high. Sounds like the Caps want a 1st for Grubauer at the very least so Lou might have interest in Howard seeing that Holland could retain on him for far less. So if Holland does deal Howard to the NYI i can totally see Detroit being players on Grubs.

Caps have depth on defense, Djoos, Bowey, and Johansen. If Carlson is locked up long term and Kempny too Caps will have Orlov, Carlson, Kempny all signed for 4+ years with Niskanen coming up next year. Just enough room for the older guys and the kids to unload Siegenthaler.

Hurricanes get a goalie and the picks/prospects to build the team right.

Caps have depth on defense, Djoos, Bowey, and Johansen. If Carlson is locked up long term and Kempny too Caps will have Orlov, Carlson, Kempny all signed for 4+ years with Niskanen coming up next year. Just enough room for the older guys and the kids to unload Siegenthaler.

Hurricanes get a goalie and the picks/prospects to build the team right.

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Give your head a shake. Washington is infinitely more likely to get a 2nd round pick than 2nd Overall. The Canes could just offer-sheet Grubauer @ $4 million and they wouldn't match. Would cost a 2019 2nd.

Give your head a shake. Washington is infinitely more likely to get a 2nd round pick than 2nd Overall. The Canes could just offer-sheet Grubauer @ $4 million and they wouldn't match. Would cost a 2019 2nd.

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Nope. Nice try. If Carolina really wants him, they have to trade the 2nd overall pick. Buffalo's 32nd overall pretty much has the same value as 2nd overall (especially when you account for trading in the division), so come back to the Caps when you're ready to start discussing trade value like an adult . Otherwise I'll just laugh at your misfortune because Grabauer is the only goalie available on the market.

Give your head a shake. Washington is infinitely more likely to get a 2nd round pick than 2nd Overall. The Canes could just offer-sheet Grubauer @ $4 million and they wouldn't match. Would cost a 2019 2nd.

I keep wondering why Carolina keeps shadowing Ward. If he wasn't on Carolina and on a contender he'd be one of the very best in the league. I'd gladly take him as our back-up to Steve Mason going forward.

But Grubauer to the Islanders is what I can see.

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Ward basically is content to never explore leaving Carolina as long as there is a spot for him there. He's said as much for years. I've suspected for some time that the day the Canes don't want to bring him back, there's a gentleman's agreement to move him into an organization job. I think he's a UFA in name only...there's only one team he'd sign with.

He's raising a family here; he has ties to the local community; his son's medical people, doctors and audiologists are here. (Cam's son is deaf. While he can find medical help for that anywhere...it's really a set of conditions where you try to stick with the same people and avoid making changes if you can avoid it.)

Caps have depth on defense, Djoos, Bowey, and Johansen. If Carlson is locked up long term and Kempny too Caps will have Orlov, Carlson, Kempny all signed for 4+ years with Niskanen coming up next year. Just enough room for the older guys and the kids to unload Siegenthaler.

Hurricanes get a goalie and the picks/prospects to build the team right.