Froggy wrote:Be interesting. If you're not interesting, get interesting.

This is key, think of how other animals attract mates. Fancy colors, cool junk, and shiny things.

Also the chance of you meeting a woman at a bar that you would want a quality relationship is slim to none. Need to find other hobbies, clubs, or sports to get involved in. Charity work is also a good place.

Well, be more interesting, but do it for yourself. Don't define yourself by your job, unless you have a really cool job.

Beginner's lesson: steer the conversation into things you are passionate about.

Pro lesson: steer the conversation into things she is passionate about. And do it without being obvious about it.

Nothing ground breaking here. This is really how you should handle every conversation. when talking to girls though, silence is the enemy. Any conversation is better than no conversation. And if she isn't responding, move on and try not to take it personally.

The best advice in this thread, or any of the various threads of love for that matter, is work on starting conversations with strangers. Any stranger. Some dude on a bus? Start a conversation. Some old lady at a grocery store? Start a conversation. its not about flirting, or picking anyone up. Its just practice for when you go for the real thing.

And don't lie to impress anyone. What's your endgame with that? be honest, but definitely showcase the things you like about yourself.

none of this is really complicated. I think sometimes guys forget that girls are not some alien species. They're just people, and really not all that different.

And go ahead and try the online thing. There really isn't a stigma attached to it anymore, and its super easy. But be aware that people lie online. they aren't as good looking as their profile picture, and they might not be as interesting when they don't have time to plan out a written response.

If you do go that route, don't waste a lot of time exchanging emails or whatever. You are going to have to meet them all over again when you go out, so the time and effort is wasted. I'd say like 3 emails tops. Then if they don't want to meet up after that, they probably were never going to anyway.

But it is extremely easy as you pretty much remove approach anxiety from the equation.

Idoit40fans wrote:Could never bring myself to do the online thing, I would need my first interaction with someone to be in person. I'd probably tear them apart in my mind before even meeting them if I tried it.

Fair point. not for everyone, but point being it's not really frowned on anymore, it's easy, it's painless, and you don't have to guess on the status or intentions of a girl before you start talking to her.

Froggy wrote:Be interesting. If you're not interesting, get interesting.

This is key, think of how other animals attract mates. Fancy colors, cool junk, and shiny things.

Also the chance of you meeting a woman at a bar that you would want a quality relationship is slim to none. Need to find other hobbies, clubs, or sports to get involved in. Charity work is also a good place.

Haha. I think that idea is pretty hilarious. It's proven to work, though. It's basically about playing the numbers game, though. If you stand out visually, maybe 100 girls will see you. Of those hundred, 3 or 4 at worst are likely to be interested. whereas if you sit in the corner all night, and approach one girl, you have to be 1 for 1.

But if you follow that logic, why not take the money you were going to spend on ski goggles, top hats, and feather boas, and just take out a billboard with your picture and phone number on it?