Dallas ISD Board Meeting on Home Rule Charter

April 10, 2014

Dallas ISD Board Of Trustees discuss Home Rule process at a Called Board Meeting on March 3, 2014.

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0:00he'd wear agenda item number or discussion0:03Texas Education Code Chapter 12 subchapter B0:06home rule school district chart season0:11and prone to view you have copies I'll0:16the stature ac0:22website at this0:25nothing there this current board or passport0:30have ever dealt with on a unique situation0:33and we're just here to0:37ask our attorneys questions about the statute and0:41seek advice on outer percy0:44we may or may not go back into closed session but mall0:48open it up for questions on the star where trustee Mishka0:52okay on0:55I female send questions to you not1:00gonna go through the house I am my reading of the statute1:06on the board with a two-thirds vote or more1:09King yeah from time1:14here hand their are constituent political they don't have action1:22and true I was hoping that your child1:26give us over a big sacrifice here before we act questions about it and that would1:30have that on-the-record1:32we put now and online listening are paying attention are interested in this1:37of another not asking questions out of the blue and I would go1:41can procure order and also some background about how the statute came to1:45be and what its main purpose was1:47at the comic origination cuz I've had some interesting a map1:53these make good points and you might actually answer your question forget I'm1:56some1:57who wants stark near the background from2:01thus chapter was parked car recover cation of the Education Code in 19952:08and is included in the same chapter is a provision for a panorama charter schools2:14and campus turner's it was part no2:17a move back for them to provide2:21what they call school choice we're still talking about school choice2:24alternative forms of governance am programs2:28am other things to to for people to use2:31are as I said it was adopted in 19952:35this particular thing it was modeled after home rule charter2:39later use for cities and him the state2:42I'll City dallas has a home rule charter are basically2:46Constitution establishes hell2:49the city is Ron Howard is covered I2:53as of today no one has taking advantage of the Home Rule Charter2:58particles your speculation as to why I'm3:02I was working at the Capitol after the car initially it seemed like nobody3:08wanted to be the first3:09amber and I think at some point people cuts were forgot it was there3:13it has pretty steep or3:16Parma better which will go into3:20at a later time when the public votes to3:23approval is sort of a pervert the culprit is patient has to be 25 percent3:28registered voters am you all over from Air Force school board elections on3:33generally more likely to get 10 percent horrific levels maybe another thing that3:37help people back3:38the me wanna get some other highlights for3:44ok now will generally the3:48the to the Home Rule Charter exams3:51are cousin actually exempted just allows3:56redistricting operate under its own rules4:00am NOT under many of the rules for4:03school districts operate under normal a4:08perot-like for out well4:11riddle laundry list the rules that do apply4:15bikers for example I'd say one other ones for to doesn't really apply4:20is chapter 21 set up the provision for hiring and termination of teachers4:26called due process requirements4:28the only provision that the reply relate to4:31provision4:35so you can't require horse teachers to join groups4:38%uh you have the right to join her up to join in if you do join4:42have you do subtracted from your paycheck lab called the chapter 214:48provision4:48would not apply unless the people writing the Charter program4:53and approved to the one example4:56right there they will still be subject to all the rules as far as you can5:01discriminate5:02her criminal laws public careful5:05education operation management student admissions student attendance5:1120 21 no pass no play5:14I'll chapter 13 I'm literally accountability provisions5:18I'll there'd still be subject to the start saying I am5:22and there's a number others from our pentagon here5:26you will read the paper and paper did a good job so they can't walk5:30needs to happen for the stronger to a car5:33and that's either two-thirds are you sick so you would grow5:38to point are adopt a resolution ordered another Charter Commission be pointed or5:43you5:43are presented with a petition signed by five percent a registered voters5:48breather hose occurred within 30 days you would be required to use a board5:52would be required to appoint5:54with Shin that's fifteen people5:58for must be reflect over6:01the racial ethnic and socioeconomic controversy over this for6:06for at least a must be parents of school-aged children6:09and foremost be classroom teachers6:13which will be selected by a professional staff Lee6:16district so6:20the content of the charter would describe the governing structure6:23district am acceptable student performance compliance with under6:27applicable6:28statutes whatsoever are others a provision in here6:32analog it says it will be subject to pre-clearance part6:37here no longer applies because of the Supreme Court decision last year Shelby6:42County versus whole6:43or preclearance basically doesn't exist anymore6:49the Charter Commission submits the Prostar to the Commissioner6:54education the Commissioner has 30 days to review it6:59think either prevent or Arbys highlight in which case7:02it would be deemed to be approved7:05the Prostar would then be submitted to the voters7:09other or would call the election upper secure form election date that occurs at7:13least 45 days7:15after the date and as I said earlier you be at least 25 percent of the registered7:20voters to participate that's7:22besides for the election to Ballard7:26arm if it doesn't work first time your order number one7:31I R you can keep ordering them by here7:34the only 1i see your hard to do as early as far as7:37try try again is second election7:42there are provisions that here for charter amendments which are very7:45similar7:46to the provision Harley approval in the first place7:49the governing body of the district wants the charmers7:54established could on its own motion submit a proposed charter amendment but7:59to the crash her and then goes to the voters or there's also a sign comforted8:04and five percent8:04play registered voters cam submit a petition asking for an amendment8:15eicher foster the highlights8:19there some other things in their locker8:22you can create them stricken adopted operate under8:26any governing structure I'll this board would continue to8:31operate until such time house the other born8:35became a factor much that they would be included in the Charter itself8:43well pretty much ur8:46an unnatural at good period time if for example 5 percent ratify8:51or five percent %uh voters come forward with the petition8:55or there's a petition representing for travelers should say it differently8:58on at that moment what is what is the process that this board undertake since9:04there are no9:05guidelines established there isn't a precedent their I've never been this9:09type9:09process before how the second created and9:13then it's my understanding from the statute that than that when the9:16commission is ultimately appointed seated in9:18doing its work it has a year to come up with a plan a Maxwell9:21year maximum the year right 30 days once you perceive the petition to appoint a9:26board9:26to pinpoint the Charter Commission we also have to establish if I'm not9:30mistaken9:31be on Charter itself for the Commission9:35for the tournament we get a charge9:38the Charter Commission will draft the car athletic body gift that9:43Commission a charge her well you could say9:47were appointing you to do what the law requires you to do9:54quarter-point Commission the Commission creates charter9:58they can decide the SCO the entirety im what it is10:01we're going to look at once you appoint a commission your job is done10:05at a bar spam after her the board10:08just a and out but10:12eaten %um your mainly minutes you have some ministerial duties after you point10:16the10:16commission but nothing really substantive10:23have to have any are you10:26gonna ok10:30I was so lucky just anything then and the 15-member second appointed are bound10:36by10:36the same rules up public service in other words there said that the entire10:41commission process would be subject to the Open Meetings Act10:43would be subject to on individuals who would have to make full disclosures they10:48would all city10:48I soon under the same some provisions to deal with their complex in with related10:53is the governing body10:54background checks are some other process by which now10:58they would be vetted or otherwise11:01the governing bodies are being held to the same standards to public officials11:04essentially11:05ok11:10okay just down 10 make sure that11:13week we all understand if11:18the petitioners presented to us to requisite number of11:21valid signatures the board11:24has to appoint a a Charter Commission11:29week we have no I no ability to bowl11:32yessir know whether or not we want autocracy11:36right it's mandatory okay and then11:39if they on11:43with respect to the questions that were asked about charging the Commission the11:47Board cannot11:48instructor Commission anyway to say writer11:52charter that keeps11:55all the rules the same except changes the11:58like the school year we haven't window ability to do that12:02suggested I don't think you have the authority to make12:06get into it or okay and then when the Tom12:10charter commit Commission prepares a drafted the Charter12:15does it go back to the board for any comments just go directly to the voters12:20hour goes directly to the commission her education12:23partly for review and approval but in terms of the board's12:27ability to make suggestions or changes12:31to the Charter ready to the commission after the board12:35ok and and then if the charter is approved12:39by the public and Jack I think you touched on this12:43and the board wants to change something in the Charter12:46what what is the process the board can buy a12:50two-thirds majority vote order another commissioned12:54to I'm12:57to be impaneled and then up basically has to hope that the13:02next Commission might make the changes the board recommends13:06shoe to appoint a commission there the governing body or how13:09ability to them boat13:12on anything monique on CarFinder there13:16there the governing body with respect to the Charter in the meantime all the13:20charter committee is13:21is working on the draft the13:25elected trustees what will still be governing the district13:28church this Salam it's only one hr13:32if the Charter passes the requisite but as when13:36you would no longer be the actual government13:39okay and and then with respect to the choices that13:43charter Commission can can make13:47any it can I think you mentioned that13:50on much chapter 21 is something that13:53the Charter Commission can decide whether or not to you include13:57Anna in the new charter what what about the accountability and high-stakes14:01testing rolson14:03star testing they're all something that they're them14:06district would still be under got a Charter Commission cannot14:10changed our are make the district not subject to the high testing14:16high-stakes testing14:23dead with with respect to14:26issues like breaking up the district14:30which we sometimes hear a lot about certainly with the on the White Rock14:33area14:35I am does the Commission have the power to14:39break the district up into separate parts14:42assuming butter tea partyers prove it14:45I am I'm not absolutely sure14:49you the very first section14:52and passes the adoption of a home url school district charm our school14:56district does not affect14:57the district boundaries which15:00would seem to me to say goodbye you the camp by charter change the boundaries15:05are15:05herm I think you could argue but the answer is No15:09for this has never been done before and if15:13we wanted to get an opinion on tap15:16from can is that is ke aver15:19place we would go for that opinion or would we15:23an hour I memory SARS that information15:27or I just like should I'm15:31car fine I understand what you just told me it's not the board that is going to15:34be15:34making any of those determinations if15:37if the Commission op had15:41I'd decides that that's something that they want to explore15:45as something for the Commission to look at for and the Commissioner will15:50review their for Galletti and the Crushers opinion about whether they15:53believe our15:56and16:00this poor can still aspirin switch doctor blackburn16:04ask happy to sumner a note to the general counsel Atty16:10my experience with them is generally very16:14where has the time to answer questions like them and then16:17then backing up to the situation where16:21but a petition with the ballot number of signatures is presented to the board16:25the border points the Commission at that point16:29in time the board has nothing left to do16:33with respect to I taking action16:37on on the charter or the Charter Commission16:41just our commissions impaneled and they16:44draft the Charter and bring it to the16:47to the voters for a vote the board doesn't16:50witness her asked the Commissioner right for approval16:54the borders have to call for the election pearly approval16:59but I think it's probably a ministerial17:02duty remains basically if you get them17:05the crash harper's a I'm comes to you back to you guys you have to approve17:10call from your okay and the board17:13om is answer the question is is the board able to17:19I am past to consider a resolution17:23supporting or opposing whatever charter might be drafted17:29her also are you can17:33an individual truck trustees are they permitted to17:37I'm take positions in public one way or the other17:41with respect to the up to a charter17:45the the condition drafted lawn or17:49with respect to the petition and though ken an individual members17:53aboard advocate that people should sign a petition17:57and then a there's a charter an individual18:00board members advocate18:04that voters should vote for or against the Charter18:08I'm I'm not seeing anything that would prevent individual18:12board member individual capacity to support18:16are not support for the charter18:19proposed charter we can again and18:23fine if there's any researcher now I miss research that one18:26touch on that but I haven't said anything after viewing this that would18:30prevent18:31anybody else and18:37I'm truck traffic Blackburn said bad18:42that board members can't use district finest advocate18:46anatomy yes we we haven't Minister okay18:49that I haven't18:53ceaseless I'm18:56president I18:59let me start first be talk about this19:0315 percent committee19:06and you mentioned it has to be19:10it has to represent be representative I'll19:14the racial breakdown be19:17district or the city history when you say the racial19:21you talking about that student population19:24to serve racial ethnic socio-economic geographic diversity of the district19:29sir circling about this is section 12.0119:335 section B that the voters of the district19:38first population in the district this year19:42the geographic to perceive the district19:46me we might need an opinion on that yes i'd like a quickly we can get an opinion19:49on19:49be helpful I'm19:54because I be interested in a minute back nearly 72 percent Hispanics in19:58population are low-income20:00per student population pop is a difference between my total population20:05cell if we can get an opinion that the very helpful20:09I'm the governing structure20:13who picks this perk 15 person committing20:16more the board trustees till20:20does that mean that I get to pick to20:23each Christie or do we have to come to an agreement as to who these individuals20:29are20:30and that the vote on it obviously but stacked ask now20:34that out as you see it borges p 15 individuals20:39its representative I'll be democratic retarded members20:43I have to be Paris school-age children20:46a 25 percent happy classroom teachers I'll20:50the Borgata I'm sorry before can only ac20:53as a body sorrow20:57maybe you could suggest somebody berkeley appointments would have to be21:00approved by the entire board21:06okay I am and in21:10people me the 15 slot a majority have to be21:14jar remembers happier at Paris school-aged children21:17in the still district condition and 25 percent mass the classroom teachers21:22selected by representative21:23our professional staff ok so at least six21:27I'm sorry at least 6 821:30sorry practice I'm working on21:34they have to be parents okay I can do the rest21:37alright I'm how to work21:41what are the boundaries as far as dialogue is concerned between21:44trustees and the committee member so you21:48I've heard talker image he brought up21:52II I think general boundaries but how when21:55when can we actually not talk to you these people on the committee21:58from the very beginning or can I talk to him as an individual citizen22:02got this processor22:10Africa for like would be answered earlier22:14I don't know anything that would prevent you22:17talking as an individual22:22up when it is subject to an election there'll be some22:27prohibitions using district22:32quiver your position22:37whistles very much a gray area22:41hi governing structure you product the potential for a shift in22:46in the governing structure and it's really i mean I'm22:49I'm getting a sense that this is really car project in just kinda do whatever22:53you want to do if you're on this committee and22:55you wanted to get rid of the school board to be given to the school boy but22:57keep school were in place22:59if you wanted to extend the term a school board members if you wanted to23:02make school what people want to run for school board go get23:05petition signed if we want to pay school board members23:10all these things are in consideration for this committee23:14if they so choose section 12 .0 25 says it all23:18after quieter and operate under any governing structure23:23am Sykes I get the governing structure23:26let's change the conversation with a quick peek into the management structure23:31does this open this up to say we don't want to have a superintendent or23:36we would rather the district run just by an appointed board23:39or are there any limits on that23:48for they can do23:53prime how should have a handout that has some other laws23:57that cakes you still have to work governing body still have to follow24:02later and the ones that charming you you don't have to24:06ago got doctor blackburn at a clarification24:09to up conversation you had about24:13whether or not on board can be I involved in the management24:17on the district under charter and he said all this of course has to be24:21approved by their TA commissioner24:24and with the implication that that's probably something not commission would24:28not approve24:30hi not that have had those are the questions I have24:33thank you in24:39in you term hi Qingyuan explaining24:43& Noble of hair marijuana which be all about charters in the24:47board I'm have the right and option to open charted24:52which lowers its an spkr no SBT24:56netanyahu hp5 giving up five other kids square have a difference between25:00homeroom25:00are and there25:04if the fang back to black market thing talking the clap clap 3025:08you're talking a subchapter D SB modified section 1225:12portions well can you find a different because I know the law25:16it changed into it 2013 that they gave a25:20the right to do all there more25:23they gave you all the right to grant open-enrollment charter schools25:27believe is the correct in industry charter schools25:30after church services on different lab I'm25:34open-enrollment charter schools are her school's good part25:38Bell scam her her mother sleep or25:41education there some other25:45up some other laws as well25:48this is a home it's called a charter home rule charter25:52charmers the governor ok establishes25:57how this district would operate can we get our opinion on the different between26:01the loggerhead they gave us a right to be able to do26:06charters versus the home rule can we get opinion26:09have their in thinking you call clarify26:13understanding the Commission arm single-member district how26:17it worked there in nineteen pickard26:2073 maybe with a single member district because I've26:25equal representation of bored a the history of the iraqi26:28how with all that impacted where home rule charter26:34could be impacted I'm workers which Turner26:37earlier there's no pre-clearance anymore26:41we won't be going to the justice department26:45have them tell us it's okay before beforehand if they're26:48her issues with their after the fact would have to be26:52handle it that time me hypothetical situation a problem26:56if you get all your signatures from a particular subgroup27:00and you get not that many signatures from another subgroup27:04how does that work that they go to the justice department27:07so you can get all your signatures from per for example North Dallas27:13by percent free from you voters very few signatures from the further sector27:17Dallas27:17that ever have to go to they don't look at it27:22so this home rule charter understanding arm27:27for you back to you you can get all your signature from what subgroup27:31and don't have anything to try from another subgroup or maybe27:34majority of the proper thing to get four percent from 11 percent from other27:38who have not been the signature don't have to represent the makeup a27:42that district back percent27:45I rollers Sawant so the single-member district in nineteen27:5072 or 73 that people fall to have representation at the table27:55we technically can go back to bed27:59although the commission if a point about the board28:02on the Commission if only four year correct28:06and being a subordinate track so28:09how does that look its four-year cabinets if it's right here then after28:13year after year benno28:15and maybe we can I Q es ASI is28:19they no longer act is not down with anyone using the trap28:23to the Commission for approval to what they submit the draft to the28:26Commissioner for approval28:28up fifteen members represent up the district28:31on at tripping me Gail on they have a year too familiar28:35the Commissioner except that Commission28:39and added become future up the district28:44election over Commission affecting28:48but the voters the school district will have to vote28:52as to whether to adopt the car as the governing document or not28:57with the Commission control the Charter are they fit that29:00up at if they wanna bored they can fit the board up the favor what the board to29:05look up thirty-third29:06are I want the board to be out me and what the board to be are women29:10the Home Rule Charter what they writing the Charter29:13back what is written and become the future I have the distri-29:17there the commission would approve it if they simply have to real29:20number I'm just saying it I mean Bay right29:23what to make up look like in being the Commission29:27except that make up29:30sure will review it as to whether you're excuse me29:33trucking met you're talking on your break would you think you said something29:37and I have a hard time proving a commission that required on the board29:40member to be men29:41a doubt with a hypothetical situation I'm29:44down that's all I said I'm just trying to understand the Commissioner29:48gonna go through the Commission the Commission except29:51from the Commissioner except the Commission29:56report what they think the charge should be years30:02are a smart actions30:05the Indigo who info130:08good voters adopt do that voters have a option the fray30:12we want you know from other we want something added back in the Charter30:17its ok for them up and down for whatever the Commission30:22really commissioners have to live the Commissioner that appointed have to30:25listen to the voters30:28her governmental body it doesn't say what they do30:31whether they hold hearings were held public meetings30:34it's gonna be up to them if so with up to the fifteen people to determine what30:38the district will look like in the future30:40info they don't have good abide by30:44public meeting community meeting freeholder meeting30:47has to be a public meeting poster I know I know just to hear your ideas30:51the bay from the pair they don't have to be commissioned a fifteen people30:55they don't have to listen to the public30:58out at some point to prove31:02purpose marked a car but they don't have to go out to preparing for the different31:07Peter patter31:07okay what do you wanna see the future to be31:11they don't they're not required by bf charter to do that31:14Tyler if silent for bacon31:17fifteen people came determine what they did about the chart to be31:22committed to the Commissioner the commissioner said yea and a31:25then put it on the ballot in the voters say yea and a31:30for day whatever they want the charter to be31:34day the fifteen people were determined there what happened for the border31:38track these Gobin the single-member district is no longer31:41single-member district got the charter would determine31:46I'm here that's correct bogus Commission will replace single-member district31:51could replace single-member district31:54and that that was false okay brother can you get a fair riding the roles and31:58responsibilities from a legal opinion32:00attract even if matter we can know I don't wanna32:03crossed the line hmm hurricane understand that great area32:08comp attorney arm iraq I would like to see that in writing32:12NBN on up32:16at for now32:22Polokwane anamensis32:25martone cannot talk I think32:28on than healthweek32:31this thing could mean for well there is no more heard32:35there's an appropriate player requirements was poor voting rights act32:39which set up so that any32:42changers any changes that have to do with voting32:47change appreciably line have to be submitted to the justice department for32:52preclearance to see you32:54impacted the rights differ32:58members of the public to am33:01Spring Park last year excited been applying more33:06so we could go through redistricting next33:15to provide pre-clearance crap this is a33:19question from doctor blackburn regarding the petition signatures33:24is there are processed verify the validity of that33:28signatures on a petition me static and dynamic rapper said33:33happy probably been harming action will happen for operating33:36to make sure they are much powers within a district and be responsible for that33:50I got better fierce looking for like a banshee clearance her33:54to notice so I don't think my time on this but I33:57do you think we need clarification on this so this district34:01was part of a lawsuit once upon a time to take it away from34:06on certain structure and put it in the single-member for34:10and that was to do something specific that is to balance34:16interests across 380 square miles and a very large footprint when this home34:22rules school district charter was created wasn't this really for the34:26little34:26districts out there the rural county in southern34:29other entities cook have a whole lotta options and resources at their disposal34:34wasn't that the origination up this34:36i cant subchapter B law I think it'd be good to know because the34:42large districts mean were know this question about population that trustee34:50police brought up is an important one because there's a distinction between34:54our school population and the population a34:57the residents were however you want to define it those who live within this 38035:02square mile35:03jurisdiction and and the second thing I with questioner35:06or at least want to see is some understanding around as we crossover35:1116 or 17 on how you count it municipal jurisdictions and we don't necessarily35:16cross over them35:18in their entirety for example we don't cross over a hundred percent of the city35:22of Dallas35:22we cross over nearly 100 percent at the city at Addison35:26so these are voters that cut across a larger35:30setup municipalities then looking at one or being able to just focus on one35:36where where evenly on aligned35:39so that the issue35:42on voting rights it's not just around the representation over your35:46on your racial and other35:49considerations your civil rights considerations but it's also a row homes35:54you're voting populations on your tax base35:56so also interested how that36:00comes into play here when we talk about representation36:03up36:08I have other questions but I just didn't want to get up36:17around that happen I don't you go chris Gregoire36:21have been thinkin you're thinking from are36:25on 036:28I with Connor arm I get I get from going back to pre-crisis36:32clearance in the law food and what bothers to a third at 33rd36:37on and I i understand. know about the voting rights36:41with the justice department the pre-clearance phobia36:44absolutely when not have to go through uni three-cornered36:48for as just Armani we're bringing this year36:52cut there was a point in history and our36:56that there with lack a representation from the african-american community in36:59the Latino community37:01for the how we got the single member district for weekend37:04have equal representation for this whole home rule charter37:08work on a take back our we're bringing the conversation about race37:13the Dalek November been havin Jenner talks about it it's a thing37:17the mean when I looked at the signatures on it there with one37:20lacked in a representation on that committee to african-american37:25and onto anglo37:28and the District majority Latino I'm just trying to figure out a week on one37:33back back works an arm at doctor blackburn mention I will love to know37:39the concern for what are the you know watered whatever whether they try and37:43accomplish37:44with this home rule charter what exactly are they trying to accomplish37:48because it is something bad they don't like to try the van they wanna hold37:52government body that can get37:54what they want to me normally when you have groups the track to break off37:58air we have some about parties and you know that other party38:02it because there's disgruntled with something so38:05is it possible that the group can prevent to38:09explain to us what part a when I look at38:12exemption that they are under verses a policy that the day38:17on the cut some of the policies our local38:20policy and when you talk about local policy def policy that the border38:24control38:25some other policies are great power leave not detecting38:29detecting how be a profit day but high ever38:33ACPO local for their something that you could sit at the table to discuss38:36whether the38:38you wanna the and we have arm up38:41avoid I've disgusting38:44why are we going to Home Rule Charter38:47why did you go this route what he did you wanna accomplishes the White Rock38:52ISD38:53if our Dallas I have be if the North Dallas I'm38:57the what it what about you go here and39:00arm what is it for children and what they mean for our children39:04with academic achievement so I'm really confused39:08on and we're in the marrow of talking about when we talk about a budget39:12and for this is a I'm just trying to understand39:15so can they prevented that if that a lot better role and responsibility39:20that they can prevent to the border truck the the help of have a39:23better understanding what is the date you what is your outcome39:27with I goes into the issues39:31sent to the port with their aunt Annie's what that goalless39:35pick up adding that understanding yeah I would love to know39:38what did that mean go here because in that letter that was presented to the39:41board39:42if they go well it was if they'd about are stated a lot of being39:46you know it talked about mom flexibility in the hiring in there39:50flexibility on might be in in an hour and teacher from39:54I'm you talked about a lot of being their I'm trying to figure out39:58what is your me and go here and how would the going to be in a bit40:02our children NY shirt40:05why are you going this route and40:09whether the Inco I would love that trustee president cowling40:13to understand that if they I'm a big given in writing40:16our goals are wonderful 3 and at howard got a benefit our children40:20I'm curious to know how many I have children40:24just pick up40:33people that's one question on our40:37I40:43is this law specifically allow the school district40:48that we can do now number not be a question for40:51the attorneys are the superintendent40:56this work well let me clarify get the process goes forward41:00the commission for me charter but41:04ever and it is approved by the voters what41:07you know what is the difference between what41:11called mister candid41:14does what it can do now major41:18shoe that candid camera now the word41:22passes the chapter 21 law41:25that obviously com the41:28the governing body would not have to follow most chapter one41:32if you wanted to terminated employees wouldn't have to go to TV41:37saying hearing evidence apply the rules of civil procedure apply41:42paper the hearing examiner I'll pay for the court reporter those type of things41:46should be more in line with41:48you how most private miss on insular41:52to me that's the major issue what could change41:56doesn't have to change the gutter Commission you appoint doesn't have to42:00do that but they have the ability to42:03not be under I'm a lot of chapter 1142:06and these other ones and there bud I think that's a big42:10vehicle you not gonna be subject to the I'm sorry schedule42:15you could stay with your own salaries organ of course42:19you could have on school or42:28we also could42:30we've been charter itself could recommend42:33the key truck berkeley42:36this coincided crack cocaine some could have the flexibility42:40must not have the ability to ca up42:46art dinner did you were at42:50I occurred a few half-hour have to get42:53a legal opinion about to respect them have for example42:57on there are 187 day said we have43:01for teachers we could possibly change that that's requirement by law43:06from a mistaken I'm we can waive up to43:10five professional development days um43:13get away for four professional development days it would be good to43:18have more flexibility43:19now be something that chartered Commission could do43:23I'm the school start time43:26which is now my pic the fourth Monday in August43:30a Commission could change that I guess43:34and there's also dis43:38several personnel rules for example43:41nine chapter 21 evaluations43:45administrators et cetera officer opened to the public43:48right now there could be changed43:51there's also some categorical funding43:55requirements for different I'm44:00different types of programs and codes44:04lying cuz I we have to follow and their44:07with your flexibility for that I'm44:10there's also several different mandatory training44:13and there's all this time it's almost a dozen44:17mentor training for teachers that could be change44:20and the gist of copper had to write things at44:23I a Charter Commission to change just a44:26where so wearing are44:35I just want to first before getting to a question44:40just a wreath stay am for clarity44:43what I've heard I understand that you're saying am i reading the code44:47def and the Education Code Chapter44:5112 hot well title two44:54public education and then subtitles see local organization governor44:58but its chapter 12 charter and so this has to do with45:03charters said charter school correct45:06has actually this is what this whole thing about charter schools and could45:11potential and this whole section how education ok45:15and then be actual area45:18with which we're dealing a Feb chapter be home rule school district charter45:23is that correct arcade just want to be sure that this is45:26third-party education code that deals with charters45:30that some places not in Texas passive used to go45:34the way up making their district a charter45:38school district arm45:41and then I'm this law45:45again I came into effect in nineteen ninety back45:49but if death if this group pursues it45:52Dallas would be to her school district and Texas throughout the45:56that Texas with more than a South Rim school districts the correct46:01correct with more than a thousand school districts March46:05small medium to try this is the first attack46:09nineteen years ourselves 10 and perfect46:13I am of hell death46:18IOC law should this that girth46:22be pursued I46:25would Remo the public's right46:28hardwick no the public's right to elect46:32representative to the school board the public46:36would have nothing to do with this public46:39institution should the Charter be written that way46:43I quite that commission the public46:46may not are are could not would not necessarily46:51elected some represent each district to represent correct this product but you46:57wouldn't be with the46:58governing body would be required to do but could47:02this would be required it depends on that47:05but that charts the structured debt Commission47:08the myth that charter and Creek High the voters approved47:12the end the voters approve it alright and as the47:16law was written as I read through it47:20death require hi level our community47:24protest high level of community participation47:28and when you rare round47:31arm47:34I'll the be apartment Charter Commission47:38ver first one is op Michelle quite the board trustee shall47:41appoint a Charter Commission hi47:45hiya the boy received the petition requesting the apartment of a Charter47:49Commission to frame our47:50school district artifact that at least 5 percent at the register47:54about death the hearth and then of course it could be47:57you could go to the second but that was the first one mission48:01am law out the letter that we received a bad way48:05on the board Acme I didn't check describe came here48:09but on the board document the I'm48:12the a Texas Education Code Chapter two48:16here house correct48:20on the a posting for me to cash it back48:23is that it is not48:27after discussion as Texas educational chapter 1248:31that is posted on the I'm on fire48:35that is posted on higher I am is48:38the is letter48:41at that the board wifi that I48:45some cropped it this along with other things that we read about in heard about48:49meeting48:50before all the discussion before but if that letter48:53posted on fire on48:57it would think that that would be president Colin Fletcher49:01this relates to that this is the reason for this meeting at her house fell49:05requesting that that letter from the group49:08be posted there and sway com49:11different letter the letter that we received49:15are if about action that a group49:19if taking I am and to me it appears to be49:23a radical assault on the district49:26and the District I being49:29a public institution hi49:32still of it every it here49:36mom and at the ap education comb49:39did education party education cope tired too49:43chapter 12 subchapter a hi and49:46except chapter our be49:49I having with charters49:53and home district charter I love that49:57I am thanks to go against50:01everything this district has built and50:04developed at a public school district50:07but the grow is going moving ahead with what it wants to do50:11frescoes are purposely today it simply did to discuss50:15this because the group has see it it is doing50:19quick it much to do in this regard50:22on and and start their profits before50:26that correct that we're discussing a pic of50:30hour50:40I'm to mouth50:41frampton you support me are you in support of this stupid and now50:45know enough about what they50:48work I think it's a poor decision and which50:52filed a legal cross50:59crist president I'm beter51:03any type the guidance regarding how something like this51:07should be frame to voters in the first place i mean YouTube creator51:13somebody's out there and ask her in this case a.m. 501 c451:17which is a political organization has been praying or form to51:22go out and his raising money to get petition sign51:26is right guidance about the language there and what effect does51:29to trigger a commission and whether there's any rules about51:33you know what that language is supposed to51:37her say or not say and how that campaign if you will51:41for a getting those signatures51:44is to be carried out for the law wants51:48they the governing body has crafted a51:52home charter the law says that it's posted on the ballot as51:57whether I'm not talking about that stage that way down the okay52:01i'm talking where we are today so why we're sitting here today is that52:04501 c4 has initiated a process to go out and get52:08voter signatures got to be able to bring this52:11issue to this body to52:15cause us to have to form a commission is that right52:18but a 501 c4 is not the same thing as for example what we would have been a52:23traditional bond election or some other process where there's complete52:26transparency about52:27the nature the organization that its a political that it's there52:31really to try to open up the possibilities of a process52:35a can you speak for a minute about that because52:38I recognize that there's nothing in the guidelines here but at the same time52:42that strikes me as being a very52:45non-transparent way to force an issue52:48I meant to voters who signed that petition where they being told or52:53whether they're52:54what's the responsibility of that body to on52:57educate the voters appropriately with battle or other information53:01to voters there than sign their name on a petition53:0410 C 14 responsibilities will be governed by that53:09statute her as far as53:12and involvement between53:16board members and the 501 C for I haven't seen anything53:20that prevents that like certain53:23law when you're under a bond election or some circumstance so53:28we can look into that for you I think that was one thing you wanna53:31has to look and so you know a lot of what we're hearing53:35here's is an outright criticism it sounds like a53:39what Austin hasn't been doing the things that a home53:42role district initiative would be able to53:45grant a school district are this flexibility around53:49areas where the law today on is rigid53:52for our sick that all we're talking about here53:56I mean I've heard things like chapter 20 wanna hurt things like54:00the number the hours in a day things like this with things that are within54:03the legislative control54:05to change or54:09coming so the fact that often have to what they wanted right so the fact that54:14Austin hasn't done it54:15this body would supersede Excel as a legislative body essentially54:19what when and if it were to be voted as a commission54:24instead of our good represents an often54:27to set those types of standards conditions policies54:32lawyer they have more flexibility in their exam on education cow54:36from everything for their that smacks ability54:40this fifteen or so this whatever governing body54:43if it hypothetically this thing goes through and there's a plan54:47whatever that plan suggests by way of that governance structure which could be54:51as trustee Ranger said54:53on a structure that has nothing to do with elected representation or nothing54:57to do with a54:58group of people being brought forward55:01from the voting population those folks basically can become55:07legislators in the sense that they can change the law or write the laws they55:10see fit in a lot of areas55:12because they wouldn't be bound by certain elements of our existing law55:16I still bound by balanced a mall is just armed forces55:20and education called an app out by right so though55:24in those areas they basically can do with a walk and governance is one of55:27them55:28a settler as long as the people the district broder55:32so we're called an Independent School District55:36in the state of Texas for a reason and that's because we are taxing bodies that55:41are55:42and as the taxing body there is it an element55:45to democracy that says you should have taxes taxation with representation55:51this that a fair statement compare55:54as American difficulty55:57a bless the USA but in the state access them56:01week talk about representation is an important part of our democratic process56:07so explain the basics this is a taxing jurisdiction56:10and it's comprised of a number of municipalities and other56:14bodies inside up this thing called a school district56:18how this home rule56:22entity whatever this plan creates by where the governance56:27a.m. has any checks and balances56:32and on how the draft charter crafted chartered have56:35checks and balances can craft one that doesn't have checked56:39then who's checking back where's the check and balance in that56:42there get the voters there are provisions for amendment there are56:46provisions for repeal56:48which are which is are basically the same as56:51the creation will be the same type of computer56:54so as far as the school finance part in the story is concerned56:58how does that come into play here today said attack with this entity have the57:01power to set a tax write57:04for the senate he would have the power to tax but there would be no way to57:09have representation pride to that taxation57:13by the voters who pay those taxes57:16a provisional ballot to repeal the Charter57:20but charter amendment on that's way down the road i'm talking about.57:24you know this entity where its powers57:27for this commission could write57:30a charter that essentially says you know we can appoint a bunch of fellow57:35or budget folks get appointed by some body to be determined57:39because we don't know that right up for which there's no elections57:42there's no public57:45input essentially and that body could then57:49set the tax rate and make all sorts decisions about money57:54with respect to work toward ending in57:57and so forth I mean I'm just try to understand58:00ultimately where the texan balances are here to a certain extent Amanda can't58:04change the obligations that the district has currently58:08so the taxes in the bond obligations were would remain the same58:12certainly mailroom liabilities with flow through to the58:16created ended whatever this entity would be58:19on but the assets would tip essentially58:23so they take our entire balance she with them58:26player but there's no but they could create an entity that there with58:31no voter participation whatsoever even though that voter is the taxpayer58:36or prospectively the taxpayer has an interest58:42met a pretty slippery slope58:46isn't that why a lot of these folks have not said this is58:49the idea that its cracked up to be because it opens that door in it58:53creates a very different58:56dynamic as well as a very different legal and and and59:00and democratic structure59:05I mean it would be good to understand I mean the state of texas senator59:09with respect to the school finance situation59:12clearly there's a lot more to the story that we need to understand59:16and that's another area would like to see a59:19some degree every search and background on what that could59:23me in59:27thank you59:32its flipping pages in reading we go back to section 12.01 759:44bricklayer but that last sentence59:48if the sector's terms Carter can paint a change in the government to the school59:53district59:54Secretary of State shall not later than the second working day after the data59:59date the secretary state makes that determination of either for trustee60:02school district last sentence60:06I just sure understand the Board shall submit the proposed change to the United60:12States Department of Justice60:14or the United States District Court for the District of Columbia60:18for preclearance under the Voting Rights act catching60:22see that's no longer applicable also the Supreme Court ruling 201360:26range consentual Jan 1960:31some to pop still there60:34that you can tell he the statue was not amended subsequent errors60:38Frank what ruling there with us first time in 199560:42and at home is the ruling and what was that again shall be personally County60:45versus holder60:472013 voter60:50prime trustee60:54iraq and we request the Attorney General to60:58opine on what that means and perhaps the Secretary of State61:04extra point I want adolescence that am to were present as refer to61:10where they're so farming strikes me that it still measured it at all61:14so it strikes me that we should follow state law may mean that we don't have to61:18wait for the day you can respond when61:20tracks threesome I'm kinda interested in61:24an AG's opinion in the sector state opinion on61:27what are are proper protocol is given61:30what's written into effect been at a federal61:34the voters right voting rights have at the federal level61:37ever so federal always on61:41on Bay here you can free up commissioner to ask the attorney61:47so you know recommend that we ask for that opinion welder61:50there's only certain entities and officials were61:53look to the bylaw cars were not one of those61:56okay I gotcha good right to the Commissioner61:59scale for you have to go to your routier62:02computer talk to the office your senator62:06I'm I had a question account Christian group62:11to I am supertanker red62:16her brain storms EMA things that you had this year think62:19applied anymore talk about how it might affect student62:22outcomes yeah62:26I think I am you know I'm forgiving62:30districts more flexibility always62:33our focus is on our kids62:36I know you know at the state level is always good rules and there's always62:39good reasons for the legislation it passed62:42but sometimes what we could do here62:45for example am we need more time markets need more time and more62:49then it to re-up the proficiency level so for example62:53I'll we have a lot of kids are not professional anymore time what s more62:57school days62:58how where always in favor of supporting our teachers and paying them well63:03I'm but it for kids who have longer school year then our teachers gonna need63:06a longer school year63:08it can't just be voluntary ban after dictate that men pay for it but63:12those are could also be good outcomes for kids again I'm63:17I i'm just answer your question work could some other things too precise63:20and there what they would help race to the gym63:25I think I have a question for our I understand correctly63:28I'm just Cana read the letter and listen to what your favorite part in the mouth63:33it sounds like on if this63:36I'm trying to figure out why we're the oh why we're here talking about63:40home rule charter when we have a lot of63:43cup packed that you're going to get a the difference between allow63:47they give their from the board flexibility for charter63:50if there were depicted DEFCON to make the board comparably63:54if if the list goes on and on why only grow shell the board also pat the new63:57teacher evaluation63:59and compensation system later this year f1 it being that home rule charter64:03come wanted the more you talk more thing that you're in64:07support about going this route because you keep sayin64:11what you were gil you flexibility to do64:14with summer that flexibility if that the state-level64:18on and on you out of the pertinent and64:22I look at from anything that we approved at the board64:25everything have gone through to be able to help students64:28outcome so i'm just still at that point of Konica few64:33on what I E N Go what the game can we get clarification president count64:38above the Ian go here on in why we are going this64:42why are what it can we talk Kim64:45they talk to a about the in gold outcomes and what they expect64:50because of pro rose them our I request the role the responsibilities of a64:55trustee64:55they say we act that you begin the process immediately by holding a public64:59meeting65:00where you in the community are briefed in public on the home rule all65:04we're delighted to join you at the meeting if you think helpful65:07so are we to hold a public meeting Army for problem one65:12c4 are there to hold a public meeting because in every letter65:16they say we ask that you ask that you65:20NBN talked about the accomplishment of the Boer65:24ago then to the state-mandated regulation that the board have no65:28control over65:29so once again in looking at the letter can we get clarification65:33about be in goal our roles and responsibilities65:37in where the line the great area that check talks about65:42again as I say earlier trust in our sector working in I'm65:45these individuals to come to a board meeting65:4918 discuss with her and can't be without me call them so that or65:53would be olympic bar and gopac's that word65:56in a family of strategy more plot are still there66:00but in that tonight because the petition to save the petitioner going out onto66:04be froo they want to work Ripper by yep66:07the petition is going out onto d and if we're66:11formed ever we found out the information in November66:15and on if if they want to work with us66:18so I'm just trying to understand once again in66:23warehouse Mar rehear on butter66:27and we get the first got the budget and what out across the building66:31%um figure it out to fast-track on66:35we still have upcoming budget the did prove in June66:38and a whole lot of other stuff them up we a factory66:44I wrap that out work question66:48top so we have a choice we need to take a phone charges are so sore66:53this group can go out and get but sector66:57to take a bow to start ourselves tonight after67:01no plans to put that on the agenda67:05as board president so67:11next step is it's their move correct67:14good kind of got her political question hope67:21I have because there's a lot of67:25unknowns here I mean this this has never been done before67:28there's no defined process there's no procedural book on how this should be67:33done67:33in any for mix up for what here in subchapter B67:37so what's a just hypothetically to 501 C four's get out there67:42and have petitions and each goes on the ballot67:46and one passes the other doesn't but they have different motives their67:50different acts67:52you know how do you define then67:55the focus of the or the ultimate67:59home rule school district harder I mean what should be68:02its charge if you don't know like fifth endgame68:06it's because technically you can do anything68:09you can create a a you can focus on a very limited areas in a home68:14school charter plan you can focus on a whole Cascada various you could decide68:18to leave the current governance attack68:20but simply redesign your programmatic areas for example I mean these are all68:24options there's a there's a myriad of options68:27so this this is the part that's confusing to me is68:30I thought and I was under the impression that it was the board68:34Chris up the charge that if the areas of focus for example we're gonna look at68:37governments were gonna look at68:39you know the school day issues were gonna look at the structure of68:44you know a teaching and learning something I mean there's at least some68:47guidance about the areas by which if you68:49go into this home rule school district order68:54you know new entity you define68:57the areas where you are trying to redevelop redesign change the69:02IIFT structure so69:06how we understand that I mean I A there could be five different groups out there69:09doing69:11running petitions and they can all be different they all say what's triggered69:14this commission69:15but the question I have is what is the Commission's charge69:19I mean then it goes back to reappoint 15 people and then69:23and then what in what was it what's their guidance in terms of what it is69:26the work but they're supposed to be doing as a commission69:29i served on the redistricting commission we're pretty specific choppers69:32and I think everybody would tell you all redistricting commissions are the same69:35in the sense that they have a very definitive charging very diff69:39definitive rules and laws and guidelines to follow but in this case it feels like69:43ap for wide open field and69:46and so where wherein the when we appoint fifteen people what are they doing69:51essentially to get together69:55create a char and charter was approved by that commission70:00goes to the loop large70:03from the board members I guess board members could appoint70:06the following board members just because the title 16 or got five percent70:11that the voters to sign a petition they basically week that the Scot or70:15they believe at that point the relationship to the process they hand70:20over70:21that they're just there to basically run a campaign but then once that campaign70:25has ended and you've got the five percent70:28you know you got the 25,000 signatures that are presented in to this board and70:31they've been verified as being70:33you are registered voters that what then we just a point 15 people and say70:38have a nice day I mean now can make suggestions70:42has been earlier have to take on ok you don't have to take70:45so it's basically the wild wild west in terms of the power in structure and70:50you know what they intend to do and then the question is whether their motives I70:55mean what70:56was nothing you could appoint some the board members to the commission if you71:00want71:01and some slots only because or you could make some71:05obviously make recommendations made actual board members on there that may71:09be a71:09opportunity to alleviate some concerns I mean I understand your concern71:13each can afford our ourself to the company's I became more and more71:18on track alright make the really is a relief camp71:21we if that it but I i think is the first time now71:25be individuals capacity airport71:28must have children related must 2871:32after line only to me i cant I me with a great grandparents grandparents care71:38just mostly children of school age and they they are bored mister71:42point in point you all have children and their color71:46week we all have a hundred and fifty nine thousand children weird sort of71:50trustees are responsible for71:51they're all our children71:55every two weeks have a I have a couple more questions71:59about them in Asia and I was wondering if I need one asked these questions can72:02I directed72:03do I direct them to you would like to return to the to the lawyers72:06moving forward rather than sit hearing continue to ask more questions I think72:09can be answered72:10not a lawyer so director questions to legal the questions are in the public72:14interest that would be a good idea to have them in with enough to let me ask72:18my answer my question72:19and the twenty-five percent of the Commission must be classroom teachers72:22selected by72:24the representative at the professional staff pursuant to section 11.21 5p72:29what is representative for the professional staff the District Advisory72:33Council72:34and the District if Hance professional staff on it72:38features that are elected to serve on it %um72:41principal to72:45thank you in72:49been happening just took72:52car hire them the the checks72:56on the Commission are first at the border points the Commission73:01second that the TA Commissioner has to approve the Charter73:05and for that and voters have to approve the Charter73:09I'm aka back73:13the Charter let's be clear is a plan that this body73:16rights as far as the end and73:19elements of what the school district that the newly constituted school73:24district becomes73:25are unstructured it way in which it73:29operates the way in which it spends fun within73:32certain limits of the existing yeah there's no doubt about it that they have73:36broad authority to73:37write a charter but I'm just saying that checks that they go through73:41are we appoint them we appoint a commission members73:45that TA Commissioner has to approve the plan and the voters after approved the73:49class73:49doesn't mean that they don't have broad authority it just means that the73:53authority has some checks73:56so we're clear the voters issue73:59the plan that ultimately goes to the voters that passed through by this74:02commission74:03I'm its 25 percent of the voters registered voters have to turn out74:08and then it needs to be a majority so at least 5074:12percent plus one whatever vote me74:15is the way in which it passes74:22trust iraq so I take a question about conduct number74:26Commission a semi it has appointed by the Board74:30that commission's going to conduct public meetings I'm assuming in this74:33building74:34I'm they're gonna be posted 72 hours notice74:38I'm are they can have access to y'all legal services do we give them74:42a budget we have Max's district resources can kinda described what that74:46might look like74:47ever piss poor repairs for the commissioner74:53and they draft right around74:57I pay them billion operating budget in which to do their work going on75:01I'm assuming they're going to have a bunch a legal questions75:05I'm so they're gonna have to have a some access to attorneys75:08weakest a sense since y'all for example a part of our five million dollar75:12procurement75:13for attorneys you just answer their questions just like you would a75:17need to check up on come up with a problem when I'm not sure what to75:21where the problem 134 pay that but that to have a better time for75:26that's a real good quickly with a question we need to ask who praised for75:29their75:30Commissioner canister at the other thing I would ask75:33yep75:37I to all of the parties in this case75:40governmental body so the same rules apply your player75:45a public official deferring rules75:49so the question is where they fall public the interest I love their75:53if we have to commit out there and we have to75:56the rate how was it impact you rate it from one appointed76:00maybe we can in opinion on base at that body question76:05the resources the requirements for this governing body76:11mock after76:17when seems to me that we are asking for number76:21opinions then we're back to spend a lot of money on something76:24that we have just received and they're about and that we're getting information76:29about76:29the group to say it in the letter A someone mentioned76:33and that believe that one point they said they'd be delightful to meet with76:36beaded76:36be lighted to delighted to meet with us or to work with that76:41but this is after horse and that out the door76:46they are ready to go tomorrow to do whatever it is they're going to do76:49and except for to trustees who have met about this and76:53the paper said if that's not true one trustee who helped start76:58this whole frame and if that's not true them that trust interest in Iraq77:02uncorrected77:03on that trustees were not involved in this at all77:07seems to me that and gone after about that the77:10the and abyss what's the end result well it's very clear that the77:15and without is to create an alternative system77:18education alternative to what we have here77:22one that potentially could have no check no balance77:27lined up potentially if not does not represent the public77:31and want the potentially would go towards privatization77:36and corporate fresh Corp arising this whole school district77:40and I'm totally totally against this potentially77:45put public education in the hands a few77:49we've talked about the money it appears that there77:52a lot of money we had this whole effort and then we said well this can be77:56repealed of the voters don't like a pic where they don't get the money78:00organizational structure people been working on this all the fair78:03and they have billionaire a millionaire78:07and trustees working with the sock with the public want to get this to78:11change this to turn this around if people wanted to work with us to talk78:15with us about the it would happen long before track78:18we got a letter at afternoon at ten o'clock78:23i preciate are becoming familiar with our78:27this but beyond this this group appears to be going on with whatever they want78:32to do they are ready78:33tomorrow I guess is the day that God start on what they want to do78:37I'm my real question here78:40what the benefit a bit and what they're doing78:45if they day and they clean it out several I'm78:50several points about what's going on in the district and what is happening in78:53our schools78:54that we already all know about but78:58as I frank I was reflecting on79:01very effective it is Adam happen they relate to public education in Texas79:06well with these people when we were going to of two different from past79:10school where are these people79:13when we were going to often and throughout the state thing79:16let's make education a priority79:20the concern for our students should just start day with creating an alternative79:24system79:25it oughta be and we don't need alternative just in my opinion what we79:29need is people with courage79:32courage to face the lawmakers the hundred thousand voters you can get the79:36fab79:36petition take the hundred thousand voters to 22 of the next your turn the79:40legislature79:41and let them speak to the legislative say this is what's going on this is what79:45we79:46at voters what and public education79:51what we need is people with courage to construct79:54the law from the mandate that are preventing us from doing what we need to79:59do in our school80:01what we needed Avoca to contract80:04lawmakers what we me I80:07if transparency from those who are planning the80:10activities clandestinely and then death before the knife our80:14always will want to work with you all but the weather moved here anyway80:19what we need is a and80:22honest conversation with all good that includes all levels of people80:27who happen estruth a concern in the support80:31for public education and the children in this district80:35what we need is a group this is we're going to be honest80:39about what's going on in public education how we can help Dallas I've80:43the to be better what we need it's true80:47and most about what we need is integrity not a group80:50that is trying to form an alternative system80:54that comes to class and they have all the resources to do what they want to do80:58sabe ya today and what we're doing now81:01what is therefore to do will quit talking about legal opinions all those81:05cost money81:06to do this to do that if they bring all those petitions81:09it see if that we are forced to do and then we move on81:12but that will be after the tabloid81:16I am completely against anything81:19I want this to be very clear that uphold81:22public education and our crafty in public education81:27and are making improving doing what we're supposed to do ever governing body81:32to make the system and this81:35entity dallas/ft better because this isn't happening81:38anywhere go intake81:44Mishka adjuster wanted to81:47I'm understand again com81:51what the board's role81:54is at this point in time that the board81:58if it wanted to as i understand much82:01Sen could create a charter82:05Commission the board doesn't want to do that82:09on week we can be forced to create one82:13if there are 25,000 or so82:17signatures they're presented to us sir82:21and that there's there's no other action that we can we can take82:24if we up between disagree with the82:28cop idea of forming pay Charter Commission82:40so just so I'm clear on82:43this subchapter B is now nearly 20 years old and it was82:46put in place long before all these other options that have come into82:51all these other tools all these other things that school districts now have82:55the flexibility to do82:56whether it's sp2 hp5 all these82:59wonderful on provision it came into place long before all that83:06happen so it's it's really an old piece o83:09law that's on the books83:12homer charter was at the same time o'connor83:15I'm bitter almond a chartered what it was really trying to do with a local83:20control is important83:21which i think we would all agree is is a is an important83:27self that districts have the maximum flexibility83:31and that they're being the widest array of options available83:35on for children an and83:39in the education system but83:42what I've heard today is Commission can be formed that83:45has no there's no real oversight to its charge83:50it could essentially abolish education83:53public education and in im and maybe even go to a voucher system or some83:58other system that it determines is still within the context though84:02you know a the rules and there's nothing to stop it except the voters84:06or potentially the TA Commissioner84:10orders have turned coming describe the educational program84:14Minister private the continuation is contender not acceptable student84:18performance and compliance with her84:21apple cobbler accountability provision it doesn't have to answer to the public84:28so you're basically saying we talk about public education we can take the public84:32part84:32am for that and up for grabs searchers make that a84:36further than the petition and it's also prospectively could be a plan that84:40includes taxation without representation84:45that's possible and opens that door84:53ideas thank you we it's too ready to85:00it to death I'm PDF important preference85:04and stuff the to risk of85:07are call responsibility85:11according to the ok we took to preserve and protect85:15just and I'm asking President to85:18put that on the agenda for us to discuss and light up information85:22that have come out shows tufty and on the run85:27specifically testing a wrap involvement85:30for the weekend very clear85:37questions been asked to respond one much importance85:41to make up for the Commission I think we defining opinions and85:44clear guidelines if this does happen were in any very clear guidelines85:49legal guidelines on who can serve on that commission85:55are they clear they who can ceremony85:5915 there there's some gee woodward is geographic diversity me86:04was so show racial ethnic social economic86:07diversity what is me. to us as a buy86:12%uh I'm just and saint if this happens86:16we get it that tack if it had record we get cricket86:20mapping right now but also honored86:24c'mon yeti this86:29up86:47aka86:48is 830 where journey