Why Muslims hate Zakir Naik so much?

Zakir Bhai MBBS aka Dr Zakir Naik has been among the most hated public figures of today. Deoband recently issued a fatwa against him. There is no doubt that Zakir Bhai is among the most smartly marketed religious celebrity of last few years. He claims to represent and propagate Islam. He considers himself a servant of Muhammad (pbuh). Yet it is the Muslims and Islamic clerics who hate Zakir Naik the most.

In this post, I shall briefly list out reasons why Muslims hate Zakir Naik so much that many claim that he would be the first person to enter Dozakh.

Let me provide a brief background. Most people consider Islam to be the religion propagated by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) and narrated in Kalam-e-Pak Quran. On surface it appears all so simple. Quran proclaims that one who submits to the word of final messenger of Allah shall achieve Heaven. But things are not so simple for a layman, and even a scholar. Because while there is only one Quran and one Prophet Muhammad, there is tremendous variety in the types of interpretations that so-called Muslims make out of this book and this great social-reformer.

In short, Islam is not as monolithic as it appears to be. The number of sects in Islam are more than 72 and they are as different from each other as dry is from wet and cold is from hot. All these sects have different customs, different levels of tolerances for non-Muslims, different food habits, different interpretations of Quran, different level of importance given to Muhammad and his associates and different descriptions of Heaven and Hell. The Shia-Sunni dispute is clearly known.

What makes the things even more confusing is the belief that of these 72+ sects only one is on path of truth and hence only one will go to Heaven. Rest go to Hell. Thus it is not sufficient to just be a Muslim to achieve Heaven, you need to follow only the right sect. Now each sect fights to prove that they are the genuine sect. Some sects are liberal enough to allow even non-Muslims to Heaven. Some Muslims are even promoters of vegetarianism. Some consider nation ahead of everything else. But there are some who believe that all except those who fully believe in their sect and its practices without questioning anything, alone will go to Heaven. Rest of all will be in Hell forever even if they do best of the deeds throughout their lives.

Among the most fanatic of these cults is the neo-Wahabi cult. This is supposed to be the producer of largest number of terrorists including Osama and Al Qaeda since its inception in 18th century and has been a cause of disgrace for rest of the peace-loving Muslims. Dr Zakir Naik belongs to this Wahabi cult, believes that only this Wahabi version of Islam can bring anyone close to Heaven, and rest of all will go to Hell. So as per Zakir Naik, Sufi will go Hell, Shia will go to Hell, Ismaili will go to Hell, Ahmadiyas will go to Hell, Hindu will go to Hell, Christian will go to Hell, Jew will go to Hell, And things are not as simple. Further, he mixes his Wahabism with material from other scholars of different sects to create his own Zakirism, that in the process blatantly insults and disgraces the vision of Islam as per other sects, including the more tolerant ones. His Zakirism goes to such extent that he does not even spare Wahabis from humiliations. Let us see how:

a. Zakir Bhai MBBS claims to be an expert of comparative religions. In his site, he has put lots of articles on comparative religions under his name. But in reality, they are merely word to word copy of texts from Qadiyani/Ahmadiyya sources. So what is wrong if one refers to Qadiyani or Ahmadiyya sources? Perhaps nothing, except that:

– Qadiyanis/ Ahmadiyyas are considered Kafirs and are prosecuted by most Muslims for their radical beliefs.

Now this belief gels with the Qadiyani belief that Vedas were also revelations. But Wahabis and other sects refuse to believe so. Hence even Zakir Bhai MBBS writes in another article that he is not sure if Vedas are revelations. He conveniently forgets that he himself has proved that Vedas reveal Muhammad in another article! (Perhaps because he forgot to read it before asking his henchmen to copy from Qadiyani book and paste under his name in his site and books)

In summary, Zakir Bhai continues to use Qadiyani source to show his scholarly capabilities but refuses to accept Qadiyanis because he claims to be Wahabi and is funded by Wahabi militants.Or is he a Qadiyani spy in Wahabi disguise? Only Zakir Bhai knows the reality, but his acts suffice to invite hatred of Qadiyanis as well as other Muslim sects.

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d. While on surface he claims to be a conservative Muslim, he wears a non-Islamic dress which has per Islamic hadiths would lead one to be treated as a non-Muslim during Judgment Day. Many devout Muslims thus consider their dress very seriously and hate Dr Zakir Naik for setting wrong examples by wearing Kafir dress of tie, suit and coat.c. Being a Wahabi he has a soft corner for Osama Bin Laden. When someone questioned him on his views on Osama, he replied that he admires him because he has terrorized America! He shied away from criticizing terrorist activities of Osama. This created a lot of furore among Muslims and Deoband even issued a fatwa against Zakir Bhai for his tacit support for Osama Bin Laden. (Deobandi Fatwa against Zakir Bhai) Reasons are obvious – the money that funds Osama and money that funds Zakir Bhai have allegedly the same sources.Many terrorists caught in past few years have admitted that they were inspired by rhetoric of Zakir Bhai MBBS.

e. Wahabis have destroyed many Sufi shrines and even house of Prophet Muhammad because they believe these to be signs of idol worship. They killed many Muslim men, women and children in their campaigns to destroy tombs and holy places. (Refer wikipedia on Wahabism) In the same footsteps, Zakir Naik severely condemns these practices to be anti-muslim and hence is hated by those who worship graves, Sufis and tombs.

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f. Shias obviously have a reason to hate Zakir Bhai MBBS because of his staunch anti-Shia stance, being a Wahabi. But his admiration of Yazeed, considered to be culprit for massacre of Karbala has been a strong point of contention for other Muslims. So much is the hatred against Yazeed that many curse by name of Yazeed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXyJvBhqg4o

g. Zakir justifies the ban on worship of other religions in Muslim countries. He however also justifies that Muslims should be allowed in other countries to promote their religion. The logic is curious – as per Zakir Bhai, in matters of religion, Muslims are the best. So they should be allowed everywhere – Muslim or non-Muslim countries. But non-Muslims should not be allowed to build places of worship in Muslim countries because their religions are inferior to Islam! Watch this video.

Such ultra-fanaticism irks the more progressive Muslims who want to integrate with rest of the world and rise above religious dogmas and hatred.

h. Being an ultra-conservative he propagates that despite a person being as much good or noble, unless he unconditionally accepts his version of Islam, he will go to Hell and Hell alone and forever. This goes against beliefs of more progressive Muslims who believe that all who act with genuineness, regardless of their religion will go to Heaven and not Hell.

i. Muslim women obviously have all the reasons to hate Zakir Bhai because in name of pseudo-science he is simply restricting their freedom that has been ordained by the Creator. For example, he states that Muslim women should always wear Hijab and Burqa and cover their entire body always. Medical researchers are worried that such unreasonable practices cause dreaded diseases due to lack of Vitamin D in Muslim countries which enforce such beliefs on women. More liberal Muslims see such insistence as dangerous dogma harming the cause of Muslims and Human Rights.

He further states that Muslim women should not work in offices because they may have chance to be alone with men even for a second. The only men that a woman is allowed to be alone with are her husband, very close relatives and those who have suckled her. Taking this crazy dogma of Zakir Bhai further, the Head of Hadith Department of the most reputed university of Islam in world recently issued a fatwa that Muslim women should allow their male colleagues to suckle them five times. This will allow them to work with these men, even when alone!

Zakir Bhai debars women from being any doctor except gynecologists because that is haram as per his version of Islam. Women should not take part in sports as well!

He further defends polygamy by furnishing false data on population but disallows polyandry.(Read this expose on his views on polygamy) . He goes to extent of suggesting that if one desires to marry again, he may not even seek consent of first wife. He may at best inform the first wife as good manners.

He justifies the belief that women are less intelligent than men and hence evidence of two women equal that of one man! He thus also justifies that women cannot inherit equal to their male counterparts!

No wonder, he would agree to dogma that to prove a rape, a woman should bring ample number of witnesses who have witnessed actual penetration!

The list can go on and on. So much that now even Wahabis have started calling Zakir Bhai a Shaitan. Read this.

And other sects who do not receive as much funding as Osama or Zakir Bhai try tooth and nail to debunk his fraud through all means.

They are even more upset by the fact that Zakir Naik does not even know how to read Arabic and merely imitates dialogues and manners of Ahmed Deedat, another preacher considered deviant by many scholars.

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The process of seeking truth demands process of elimination. One may not be sure and continue to debate on which of the 72 or more sects of Islam would lead one to Heaven, or whether Quran itself is the authentic Quran and not the new Quran as created recently. One may not be sure whether a permanent Hell or Heaven, or Fairshtas or Jinnas exist in first place. One may doubt if Muhammad was a great non-divine social -reformer or actually a Messenger of Allah’s word. One can debate if Quran deserves to be final word of Allah and what should be its interpretation or what new good thing Quran provides which was not there in previous books. Everything in life must be questioned, analyzed, debated before accepting. That is what is called scientific spirit and that is what makes us humans.

But one fact is sure, there is not even a scope for debate, and certain persons should be out-rightly banished to Hell or hell-like place for benefit of rest of the civilized peaceful society. They include

– people who dare not condemn terrorists like Osama

– who consider that all except their sect will burn in permanent Hell despite how-so-much good they do in their lives

– who cannot tolerate others but want themselves to be tolerated everywhere

– who believe that women are inferior or bereft of intelligence

– who justify inferior rights and curtailment of freedom for women

– who refuse to change their stands despite presence of factual information proving the opposite

– who do not clear their stand and purely use material prepared by someone else to claim scholar status for self and yet condemn the source

Such terrorism sympathizers are threat for any civilized society. Progressive and even conservative Muslims have showed the right way by criticizing Zakir Naik so severely. The first and foremost religion of humans is humanity. The way noble-minded Muslims have shown courage and mettle to condemn the dangerous frauds of Zakir Bhai that are detrimental to entire humanity is warmly welcomed. Such steps in right direction pave way for right direction for seekers of true knowledge.

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it is all wrong written In ISLAM we worship only one true God that is ALLAH (S.W.T) none other is worth of worshiping. Your post clearly expose pure jealousy of yours with Sir Zakir and which muslim on earth told you that Dr Zakir is a KAFIR. Stop flaming rumors. We all love him for he propagates ISLAM in an authentic way.

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So was this learning curve linear or parabolic with time for Ram? Did he ever become Bhagawan or his learning curve came to a standstill midway. In that case you have lost a bhagawan who failed to imbibe all the mentioned qualities within the passage of time. But don’t lose heart for you have plenty of other gods whom you can ask for wealth, fame and so on. By the way, you have also mentioned Shankaracharya, an addition in your list.

You say Ram being a king was duty bound to his subjects. And there’s no doubt to be cast that for the king his wife is also his subject who needs to be taken care of and has equal rights for justice. The king has the responsibility of administering fair justice. But instead of administering the justice Ram violates it. His will I suppose is to get rid of Sita and have sex with other women.

Whether Sita left voluntarily or was banished, in both cases she was denied justice!

I do not know why Ram is a special person for you to emulate for there are so many people round the corner of the world who love their fathers and mothers and obey them. The law breakers for this natural phenomenon can be of course many.

Fluidity should be achieved if you had a constant composition of elements. Take the case of water, its elements are H and O and 2 H atoms and 1 O atom makes water molecule. Have you seen water flowing through a pipe, whatever be the number of folds or turns in a pipe water can easily maneuver through them maintaining its intrinsic quality of being constant. A lesson for you – Never corrupt your holy book in the name of betterment for fluidity can be achieved if these are never injected with your suggestions.

God forever has given the capability to mutate. It’s the person who needs to apply it. A person walking on a slippery surface can either slip onto the ground or apply his brain immediately to resist the fall. God has always given you brains to apply.

Regarding interpolations in Manusmriti , the big names in Hinduism as Swami Dayananda Saraswati and A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami, have accepted the laws as authentic and authoritative. Refer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manusm%E1%B9%9Bti (Some prominent Hindu figures, such as Swami Dayananda Saraswati[54] and A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami,[55] hold the text to be authentic and authoritative.)

Few more from Manusmriti –

It is the nature of women to seduce men in this world; for that reason the wise are never unguarded in the company of females. 2/213.

Wise people should avoid sitting alone with one’s mother, daughter or sister. Since carnal desire is always strong, it can lead to temptation. 2/215.

Girls are supposed to be in the custody of their father when they are children, women must be under the custody of their husband when married and under the custody of her son as widows. In no circumstances is she allowed to assert herself independently. 5/151.

Another proof that Ram was meat eater from your authentic book Valmiki Ramayan

Then Rama and Lakshman, by advancing hardly a couple of miles, arrived the forest on the bank of the River Yamuna, killed many animals and ate their meat.

It will be a good idea to look for similarity in all the forms you have mentioned and without a need for research it is to be asserted that hindus worship them all.

Z N School of reasoning accepts only Phd level of students, so don’t do a half hearted research on this school.

Regarding learning curve for me, it should be easy for you to comprehend that to add two numbers I don’t need to be Phd in mathematics. Similarly, a simple reasoning does not require me to achieve higher level of skill in reasoning supposedly a doctorate. Did this simple logic fit into your mind or you are still scratching your head? Don’t make me feel pity for you another time!

The pattern is immaterial as long as the objectives are achieved. In any case, they are not going to be uniform varying from person to person. Well, to my mind, he did meet the criteria or else he should not have achieved a cult status, and, hence, the loss theory is falsified. At least, praying for wealth to a million gods is a zillion times better than looting, I guess, in case you do not have a contrarian take on this. So, what if I mentioned Shankaracharya after all Bhagavan is a title bestowed on the one worthy of it.

We are definitely not talking of medieval Arabian societal norms here. As a queen, Sita was also supposed to be accountable to her subjects just like Ram. Probably, Ram was not as crafty as Muhammad was and that is why he did not marry a second time as he was vowed to monogamy.

No, they are not the same. She did not ask for any to begin with.

But not to the extent that he did. In any case, that is not the only reason that he is accorded such veneration.

Thanks for that lesson on fluid dynamics but it seems that the doctoral student from ZN university is having problems in grasping the gist of the comment and hence the digression. This time of course your trajectory went off on a tangent. BTW, fluidity can be achieved when there is less of viscosity, i.e. resistance to reform/betterment. A lesson for you – Try to be less of viscous to allow for more fluidity.

So, then start applying your brains and do not get stuck because of high viscosity which is off course an intrinsic quality and hence at times incorrigible but keep on trying still.

In any case, laws of Manu were advisory in nature and to err is human goes the saying. If some of his views are reprehensible, then they are to be condemned and fit to be ignored.

Even if he was a meat eater, that does not make him a villain.

As I said, worshiping a million gods is at better than eulogizing a barbarian.

The credibility of the ZN school is in serious doubt. See above in the fluid dynamics section.

Forget about doctoral studies in mathematics, your mentor needs to know about elementary maths to begin with. He needs to be told that 3 plus 1 and 4 plus 0 will also yield 4.

I agree that you might have been deeply hurt to know that your prophet was a terrible womanizer, a pedophile, a rapist, a looter, a murderer, etc; but then you do need to throw muck on others.

Refer to the link above and you will get to know how Zakir Nalayak twisted the meaning to suit his agenda. There is no evidence of Ravana having sex with Sita. Your frustration is now out in the open. I can only feel pity for you. Of course, the custom of child marriage did exist in the Hindu society; but the fact of the matter is it has been recognized as a social crime and has been criminalized. Child molestation having divine sanction in Hinduism is another figment of your wildest imagination. Sita’s age being a forgery is yet to be proved, just another wild allegation with no evidences backing it up. In any case, Manu’s laws are not inviolable, and the Hindu society is not frozen in time as the Islamic society is.

@Muslim ________Your god Ram was not daring enough to rescue his own wife alone from the clutches of Ravana._______ Are u not Indian? You are taking very much interest to demean Indian legendary like Rama, Krishna, Hanuman etc.. It is matter of shame the person like Rama, Hanuman etc who are considered noblest men in world but some Indian like you trashing their own ancestors. _______Your god Ram__________ Does Ram not belong to your country that you are writing “your”. ________Ram was 16 years old when he married Sita, and Sita was only 14 years old __________ Have you read Ramayan. When Sri Ram reached Mithilapuri along with Vishwamitra ji then King Janak told Vishwamitraji in 24th sarg of Balkand, As per Valmiki Ramayan Ram looks like a Devta. He is like elephant, lion and bull and warrior is very active. His eyes are like lotus. He is holding sword, bow and quiver. In beauty he is handsome like Ashwani Kumar. He is full of youth i.e., he is quite young. In the matter of youth, Valmikiji has used the word- “Samupasthityowvanau”

Meaning being “entered in full young stage”. According to Vedas, minimum age of marriage for a boy is 25 years and all Ayurvedic granths etc., clearly state that full young age starts from 25 years. So, Shri Ramji went with Vishwamitraji at the age of 15 years. He served and looked after Shri Vishwamitraji, who was doing his pious Yajyen. In this process, when Shri Ram reached Mithilapuri i.e., Janak’s Kingdom, he became 25 years of age and Sita Mata, at that time was of 18 years.

I can see from the article that whoever has written it has done so based on pure jealousy and it lakes all the aspects of academic writing and are based on personal perceptions. I won’t go for all the points and even didn’t bother to read it till the end what from what i read, can you please provide the evidence where he himself says that he is a WAHABI and can you also please provide the him article along with the original Ahamdiya article that you claim has been copied from so that the readers can compare them and judge themselves. As long as the Ulemas in the video are concerned, they cannot be a mere proof to get someone down because I can provide you dozens of renowned ulemas who have appreciated zakir’s work. By the way these ulemas are not the best ones but i would call them Mullas instead. I hope i get the clarification. Thanks

Bin Laden himself took credit for 9-11. Typical Muslim on the one hand rejoices when Muslims commit acts of terrorism and kill infidels, then the other hand because they don’t want to look bad pretend no Muslim did any act of terrorism. All those counts of Islamic attacks is from news reports from all over the world including Muslim majority countries. All that site http://www.thereligionofpeace.com is doing is tally them up. No need for infidels to make Muslims look bad, they do that themselves with their never ending killing in every country they populate.

Hi I think this site is just rubbish. As the kalima that i read clearly states that there is no GOD but the one and only Allah talla. So but obvious I can only worship him and respect his messengers. As for the this site and other new channels in this time – Islam is at war not only with non muslims – but also with the media as these so called channels and websites are direclty at war with Islam – their job is to present such things which produce a bad name for Islam and cover such things that suits their agenda. Zakir Naik is right and we should all be united and need to support him. Allah o- akbar…

Yeah so. That is your myth. Christians believe anyone who believes in Jesus (and him alone, sorry Mohammed does not cut it) goes to heaven. Your Mohammed according to Christians is burning in hell for all eternity and so will you for following this fraud instead of Jesus alone. You Muslims and Christians are so alike in your narrow mindedness and deserve each other.

@faukka,sdc and all others who are contributing there comments; you guys seems to be intelligent people, isn’t it irrational to argue on something that is the story of past.

Be it hinduism or islam or christanity or others thes religions were created scores of yeras back by intelligent people to the prevelant society of that period. These people knew that to guide a society you got to use gods name so that people can follow the pricipled life, but than we need to realize that these social laws were suitable for that society and not the 21st century. I am born Hindu but hey how does that matter if i was Muslim or Jew. I don’t need to follow a religion to be a good man. I am aware that if i stick to humanity than I don’t need my behaviour to be driven by religion. I do not have to think where I am going to go after my death because I will be burned down and nothing except the ash will remain. I don’t need to cat fight over which religion is better or I do not need to carry my religion on my sleeves I do not need to be proud of my religion or be critical about some one elses religion because I have no contribution over setting the fundaments or rules.

I believe in power that created and runs the universe but i do not have to believe in god guided by religion. I can not be fooled by the scriptures who proclaim that god belongs to them or there community and I am not at alll convinced the theory of reincarnation or the theory of going to heaven or hell.

I also realise that most of the past or present confrontaion in the world is because of peoples in tolerance over others religious belief hence the major reason for worldwide discontentment is Religion..

I also believe dinasaurs existed on the earth before human beings and that also raises a question in my mind if there is a god as described by religions than why god chose to bring dinasaurs on planet before mankind.

I also believe if god exists as prescribed in religion than he is so unkind to people who are killed mercilessly or people dying due to no food and water.

How come the kind god has such a big ego that people who do not follow him or do not please him by chanting his name he is very very unhappy about them people.

You are greatly mislead .why is it that science has proven all the scientific facts in the quraan (which was revealed 1200+ years )when no scientific instruments were non existing and the quraan still remains intact ,memorized by millions of people around the globe ,majorly by kids.why dont you be that intelligent to come up with such a non contradicting religion with even the help of the so called powerful scientific instruments.

I’m was not the one showing the ugly parts from your Christianity. But now I have to do so because YOU URGED ME. I’m sorry I have to point out all these, my aim isn’t mere to disrespect or condemned but to show you that all your claims are false . And I feel you didn’t read the whole Bible so I should help you. Now carefully read all these mentioned below.

==> Bible: All who curse his mother or father must be put to death﻿ LEVITICUS 20:9. (And you always point out that why are people stoned to death as per Islamic shariya law when they commit adultary )

==> AS PER CHRISTIANITY & JUDAISM The punishment for blasphemy in most of the major religions is death. It is stated in the Old Testament of the Bible, which is the authority for both the Jews and the Christians: And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: [Book of Leviticus 24:16].

==>Bible: To “If your wife isn’t a virgin take her to her father door & the whole town must stone her to death “. DEUT 22:20-21.

==> Bible: To “Kill the whole town if one person worship other God.” . DEUT 13:13-19.

==> Bible:But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.'” Luke 19:27

==>Bible:Lot and his Daughters [Genesis 19:31-36] And the elder said to the younger Our father is old, and there is no man left on the earth, to come in unto us after the manner of the whole earth. Come, let us make him drunk with wine, and let us lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the elder went in and lay with her father: but he perceived not neither when his daughter lay down, nor when she rose up. And the next day the elder said to the younger: Behold I lay last night with my father, let us make him drink wine also to night, and thou shalt lie with him, that we may save seed of our father. They made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in, and lay with him: and neither then did he perceive when she lay down, nor when she rose up. So the two daughters of Lot were with child by their father. ( you said that a prophet can’t marry a girl of 9 this is not an attribute of a prophet, now see what does your Bible say about the attributes of Prophets, Lot was a prophet according to even your Bible, now see what did Lot do)

These are in Old Testament. Read Romans 7:6. It tells Christians serve God by following Jesus Christ. This is why Christians don’t kill those who believe other than God(like Hinduism or other than Christianity). Comparing with the era(Old Testament) where God shows Himself, this era, most people have no personal experience that God exist. Have you any personal experience God exist?

Romans 7:6 tells Christians follow Jesus Christ to serve God, no need to follow Old Testament as mentioned by you. About Lot, “there is no man left” is the reason. While Muhammad married with a child when there are boys who are same as the child’s age and can marry her when she grow up. There’s no need for Muhammad to marry a child or vice versa. Are you going to prove Islam is truth or just attacking other beliefs?

Dr. ZAKIR NAIK is a true and honest muslim.He always says true things about islam he gives references.All other sections hate him due to his intelligence and committment about islam he is trying to propagate muslim religion in a proper manner….If any one has doubts about it check out references…He says everything right about islam but now a daz people want flexiblity they dont love islam they love their choices…what they feel is right and other things r not good..Many muslim people and others humiliating him.they all are showing d negative image of zakir naik in front of the world.but zakir is a rising sun of islam…all other are jealous him because their shops r closed..Zakir is not famous in India but all over the world…he is working hard to propagate islam.he is confident allah will help him

If u are that great then go to his conference and bindass chalenge him!!…Go and show how great you are there that saying the tu use hara sakta hai….Ja…aur karke dikha!….Hum bhi dekhte hai!…i am serious….

If u are that great then go to his conference and bindass chalenge him!!…Go and show how great you are there than saying “tu use hara sakta hai”….Ja…aur karke dikha!….Hum bhi dekhte hai!…i am serious….don’t just blow your trumpet for nothing!

to eradicate moorti pooja we have to eradicate islam first. our innocent hindus are converting to islam because they dont know sanskrit so they can not read and understand vedas. we have to spread vedas and teaching of vedas. most of the time i become desperate when i see that no Hindu is interested in Veda, he is happy his life and all that.

The author of this article don’t even know the fact that, All the famous figures has the oppositions. I assume the author is brilliant enough and I do not need to explain more.

This article is nothing but the same tactice used by RSS, when a Hindu terrorist Killed Mahathma Gandhi but the false news was spread by RSS Hindu Shaba, that the killer was a Muslim. There are group of people (I hate to call them Hindus) just expecting and injecting a poison in the hearts of Innocent hindus. and now trying to do that in between muslims too.

I have seen and attended the programs of Dr. Zakir Nayek and what he speaks is truth and anti -islamic Hindu group try to stop his programs in many means and this is one of the attempt. Many hindus including me gaining lots of knowledge and we able to read what our Vedas says which is never told by the so called hindu swamijis, Gurus, preachers. We know they are busy with what?

I respect Dr. Zakir Naik and his enlighment. All the Hindu and Muslim Bother be united and do not listen to any evil deeds. There is no logic in this article but the intention of the article is clear.

If Agniveer is really worried about the society let him to go and save the people from the false Swamiji’s who commits the crime of rape, looting etc on a large sacle.

This article is just beacuse of just jeolous and you hate muslims, Are you able to face him face to face. Just forget to meeting a muslim scholor face to face. Do you have any one who is having caliber to conduct a live Q& A session with other community?. Just try quote the vedas like he quotes and give the contest of them? There are masters in backbiting which is the work of cowards.

i have crosschecked every reference he Zakir Naik has given…because i was a Hindu and had too many misconceptions, and i would not believe anyone who so strongly says that Islam is the truth. I have crosschecked all his references and found out that all are true!…He speaks the truth!…

I would like to agree with you on some counts. No doubt, he speaks the truth but the Islamic version of it and definitely not the generally accepted one. And, yes, there are glaring misconceptions about Islam about it being the religion of peace. The wickedness of the faith can be gauged from the fact that the adherents of the faith are known for their not-so-peaceful actions world over.

Why a person who comes out in the open and quotes verses from all scriptures not only from hinduism but also from christianity, while your gurus and so called fake spiritual leaders cannot utter a single reference. I am sure you actually had wanted to say that Hindu gurus and spiritual leaders are the real liars. Typing errors are always there.

@SDC… are u drunk? u r talking about 3500 BC? do u understand what it means by pre-islam and post islam Arab? we r talking about ,5th and 6th century..wash ur brain… just for sake of argument u r trying to mix up things…

u call us idol worshippers…what are u ppl…u are the biggest idol worshippers of all times and u r idol is black box of mecca and stone inside it u always read namaz facing that u have its pic in ur homes isnt that idol worship….besides let me tell u the true purpose of idols it is to create a spiritual atmosphere around u. Its just like u will not do any unethical activity like sex if there is picture of ur parents lying around u..our idols have the same effects its just to create a clean state of mind….so bug off illetrates

We muslims do not have idols in mosques and we leave our businesses,errands and pray to Allah Almighty five times a day! Have you seen a better example than this? Leaving aside money and worldly pleasures to pray to Allah Almighty to show our devotion ,respect, and humility

Money must be an interest to you for you being an idolater have a dedicated goddess for this purpose, goddess of wealth.

Our prayers include:

All prayers are due to Allah Almighty the lord of the universe.

Besides – O Allah forgive us of our sins those we have committed, for you are the most forgiving and most merciful.

Coming back to you, if your prayers are that for wealth and worldly pleasures then you should indeed continue with them.

You can now expunge the WOW!!! you included for it will not be wonderful for you anymore, that as per your presumed logic and at par with your hindu philosophy ,we too would seek for worldly pleasures and wealth in our prayers.

You are probably more into looting as this been ordained by your beloved prophet, the enlightened one, who gave you the concept of ghanimah or war booty. Worshiping is such a waste of time besides being boring and tedious when you have such a wonderful shortcut such as this. I just wonder what is sexual slavery, polygamy, concept of 72 virgins and pearly bottomed boys, etc., all about. Probably, a part of the penances for forgiveness of sins, isn’t it? Ugh! we are such losers. We only pray for wealth and worldly pleasures.

It is very individual and personal as to what one prays to God so people like SDC cannot just conclude whether one prays of sexual needs alone or one is just plainly grateful for all he has. As to idol worship, let me share my experience. Apart from festivals, the only time one worships/prays to an idol is when they are in need of something. n then talking about temples, most of the temples that have a “high degree of holiness” like Tirupati and Thiruthani , and i know so many others which are so business like…The new term called “VIP Darshan” where if some big amount is paid then that person reaches the sanctum through a much cleaner and fast crowd free route, where as if one goes through the free route??….they have to wait sticking to one another for at least 2/3 days!!!….What kind of a prayer is it where one gets darshan in 10 minutes if paid….its more like business n not worship, that too one is pushed away within few seconds of the hard earned darshan!…next…the hygene!!!!…..don’t even talk abt it!….its absolutely pathetic the idol is poured with milk, oil, ghee, n what not as a ritual and then all the slag is given as prashad!!…n thus the amount of flies in the place…this happens in sooooo many temples!…i have seen big cockroaches running here n there…the ambulatory passage is always sticky with either oil spilled or some other thing!…Is this how one keeps their beloved Idols if they are that sacred?….is this what God asked to do?….That make me bathe with oil, n milk, n curd whilst naked, n then drink all of that and then dress me up????….if the idol has to be cleaned n kept safely then that means we are protecting it!…how can we in any way seek protection from it…something that can’t protect itself? you don’t say??…Its more than ridiculous!!!….During Ganesh chathurti we immerse these idols in water thereby contaminating the water…”contaminating the water” is an understatement!!! …what a sick practice!!…i can go on n on n on about all this…and then when i went to Masjids!!!…they are so clean…even the oldest masjids are so clean one enters them only after cleansing themselves, prays n leaves. and when prayer is done 5 times a day one will not every time ask for worldy pleasures, infact the very act of namaz makes one be grateful to God!…I have experienced!!!….God is beyond the limit of one’s imagination…cannot be created not destroyed….God is our creator, we are not God’s!…God is one of whom we know not the form!….Islam is a truth that has gracefully come to light for me….yes it is highly misunderstood!…even i had all these complaints!….but after truely knowing Islam i have known how beautiful it is!…

Grateful for what? For the means of enjoyments that were hitherto considered illegal and immoral being made legitimate by supposedly “divine” decrees through the prophet, is it?

While I do agree that temples today have become centers of business activity, but in sharp contrast your places of worship have always been infamous for being centers of hate propaganda. The shabby condition of the temples only goes to reflect the apathy of the Hindus, nothing else.

Have you truly known Islam? Had it been the case, you would have felt a deep sense of revulsion.

I am muslim, I don’t belong to Dr. zakir cent but I love him. Cent has no importance over teaching of Quran & prophet. He is doing good to avoid miss understanding.

If some muslim give importance to their cent over Quran teachings they are wrong. We are open to identify mistake in our cent & correctify it in light of Quran & prophet teaching.

As creator of Hanfi cent “Abu hanifa” said himself, if you guys ever find my interpration against Quran & teaching of prophet Mohummad, through my interpration/translation/understanding/teaching on wall, and follow what correction you found in Quran & sunna

@Garry…You people didn’t, and not even your mohmmad knew that you people have got a black gold (petroleum) deposits underground. It was a white man who discovered oil wells…

looks like u r a racist.. anyways Mohammed (phbu) have not talked about the oil underground.. but definitely he talked about the future of the Arabs…

Sahih Hadith Volume 1, Book 2, Number 47: When the shepherds of black camels (Arabs) start boasting and competing with others in the construction of higher buildings. And the Hour is one of five things which nobody knows except Allah….

we will aslo admit that at a time you white people went every part of the world like a sniffer dog in search of wealth and steal them or taking over them forcefully… like british came to india, and all over the world and colonialization was their purpose…and and by the way ur white british torture and killed more people in the world than muslims ever could..which muslim countries called world war I and world war II? as a white person discovered the oil under Arabia is that why Bush and Tony Blair conducting war against Afganistan, Iraq and now they are planning to attack Iran ( all oil rich countries)..

ur statement.. just compare the civilization of middle east pre-islam and post-islam….. sorry to say that this time I have to consider u as an ignorant because u dont know the history at all…The pre-Islamic Arabia was commonly known as the age of jahiliyya, meaning the age of barbarism, darkness, and ignorance….

who killed 6 million jews? who was Hitler? who was Mussolini? they were Christian..who called 3 consecutive Crusade? which killed millions of innocent people? ur Pope… who dropped atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? ur white America..who conducted 2 consecutive war that killed millions? ur so called white people..who killed thousand or Afgani and Iraqi by the excuse of fighting terrorism? to kill 2 guilty person they killed thousands…in this age of humanity we saw 2 war by the grace of Bush and Tony Blair.. Bloody white terrorist..Bush also initially called for crusade,, seems like spirit of pope was within him… today more than 15 million Christian lives in Arabian peninsula… if we had to kill them then they should be washed away…but always church and politics controlled history, article and media have not left any effort to distort Islam because of the only reason that they cant sale the Indulgence to heaven.. they have to close their shop to stop Islam.. more than 5 millions books has been written against Islam by the order of the church in only 100 years of the medieval time and that bloody lies are stuck in ur mind or maybe ur heart of also filled up with the spirit of church…

here is what famous people replies

De Lacy O’Leary in ‘Islam at the Crossroads,’ London, 1923.

History makes it clear, however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myths that historians have ever repeated.

Mahatma Gandhi, statement published in ‘Young India,’1924.

I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today an undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind…. I became more than ever convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet the scrupulous regard for pledges, his intense devotion to his friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the second volume (of the Prophet’s biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of that great life.

Sir George Bernard Shaw in ‘The Genuine Islam,’ Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936.

“If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam.”

James Michener in ‘Islam: The Misunderstood Religion,’ Reader’s Digest, May 1955, pp. 68-70.

“No other religion in history spread so rapidly as Islam. The West has widely believed that this surge of religion was made possible by the sword. But no modern scholar accepts this idea, and the Qur’an is explicit in the support of the freedom of conscience.”

Lawrence E. Browne in ‘The Prospects of Islam,’ 1944

Incidentally these well-established facts dispose of the idea so widely fostered in Christian writings that the Muslims, wherever they went, forced people to accept Islam at the point of the sword.

K. S. Ramakrishna Rao in ‘Mohammed: The Prophet of Islam,’ 1989

My problem to write this monograph is easier, because we are not generally fed now on that (distorted) kind of history and much time need not be spent on pointing out our misrepresentations of Islam. The theory of Islam and sword, for instance, is not heard now in any quarter worth the name. The principle of Islam that “there is no compulsion in religion” is well known.

Another famous European writer, Thomas Carlayle, said: “Accusing [the Prophet] of relying on the sword for people to respond to his preaching is incomprehensible nonsense!”

Thomas Carlyle in ‘Heroes and Hero Worship and the Heroic in History,’ 1840

Thomas Carlyle, in his book Heroes and Hero worship, refers to this misconception about the spread of Islam: “The sword indeed, but where will you get your sword? Every new opinion, at its starting is precisely in a minority of one; in one man’s head alone. There it dwells as yet. One man alone of the whole world believes it, there is one man against all men. That he takes a sword and tries to propagate with that will do little for him. You must get your sword! On the whole, a thing will propagate itself as it can.”

Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. The Muslims in Spain never used the sword to force the people to convert. Later the Christian Crusaders came to Spain and wiped out the Muslims. There was not a single Muslim in Spain who could openly give the adhaan, that is the call for prayers.

Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia?

Today the fastest growing religion in America is Islam. The fastest growing religion in Europe is Islam. Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers?

Rather Christian did this job, the British, Dutch, France… they conquered every part of the world and set up colony and spread Christianity but as they controls the media and writers they poses their dirty act on Islam..

Who refers to the pre-islamic Arabian period as the age of jahiliyya? The Muslims! What about the fact that it was widely considered to be the cradle of the earliest civilizations in history that were established in the region now known as the Middle East around 3500 BC by the Sumerians, in Mesopotamia (Iraq), widely regarded as the cradle of civilization. The Sumerians and the Akkadians (later known as Babylonians and Assyrians) all flourished in this region.

this is just a small list.. u may say u have never heard of them,,, because maybe u have not did a deep study on science of the medieval time..today is the time of science and technology and it belongs to the western world and we admit that… and the earlier pioneers are fade up now.. but any scientist or student of science will admit about those legends. and even if u see the short name of them in the bracket u may recognize them if u have any knowledge in the field of science…i give u another link

brother prophet Mohammed (pbhu) was a prophet not a scientist, not an inventor…but the contribution of our prophet and Quran can not be forgotten…

here are some statement of the famous personality in the field of science… “Dr. T.V.N. Persaud, professor of Anatomy, says: ‘You have an illiterate person (Prophet Muhammad) making profound statements that are amazingly accurate, of a scientific nature…I personally can’t see how this could be mere chance, there are too many accuracies and like Dr. Moore, I have no difficulty in my mind reconciling that this is a divine inspiration or revelation which lead him to these statements’.

Joe Leigh Simpson, Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at the North Western University in Chicago in the United States of America. Professor Simpson said: It follows, I think, that not only is there no conflict between genetics and religion, but in fact religion can guide science by adding revelation to some traditional scientific approaches. That there exists statements in the Qur’aan shown by science to be valid, which supports knowledge in the Qur’aan having been derived from Allah.

Professor Alfred Kroner who is one of the world’s most famous geologists

“Thinking about many of these questions and thinking where Muhammad came from, he was after all a bedouin. I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years with very complicated and advanced technological methods that this is the case.

“Medieval Islam was technologically advanced and open to innovation. It achieved far higher literacy rates than in contemporary Europe;it assimilated the legacy of classical Greek civilization to such a degree that many classical books are now known to us only through Arabic copies. It invented windmills ,trigonometry, lateen sails and made major advances in metallurgy, mechanical and chemical engineering and irrigation methods. In the middle-ages the flow of technology was overwhelmingly from Islam to Europe rather from Europe to Islam. Only after the 1500’s did the net direction of flow begin to reverse.” (pg 253) Jared Diamond a world renowned UCLA sociologist, and physiologist won the Pulitzer Prize for his book: “Guns, Germs, and Steel.”

I am forced to copy-paste some material to refute the claims made by you.

The number system was actually first developed in India. Aryabhatta developed the place-value notation in the 5th century and a century later Brahmagupta introduced the symbol for zero. The numeral system and the zero concept, developed by the Hindus in India slowly spread to other surrounding countries due to their commercial and military activities with India. The Arabs adopted it and modified them. Even today, the Arabs called the numerals they use ‘Rakam Al-Hind’ or the Hindu numeral system. The Arabs translated Hindu texts on numerology and spread it to the western world due to their trade links with them. The Western world modified them and called them the Arabic numerals, as they learnt from them. Hence the current western numeral system is the modified version of the Hindu numeral system developed in India. It also exhibits a great similarity to the Sanskrit-Devanagari notation, which is still used in India. The earliest inscription of zero was a record on Sankheda copper plate found in Gujarat, India (585 – 586 CE).

The word geometry seems to have emerged from the Indian word ‘Gyaamiti’ which means measuring the Earth. Although Euclid (a Greek) is credited with its invention in 300 BCE, the concept of geometry developed in India from the practice of making fire altars in square and rectangular shapes. Also, the theorem now attributed to Pythagoras (the square of the hypotenuse of a right-angled triangle equals the sum of the squares of the other two sides) was elucidated earlier by Baudhayana an recorded in the Treatise, Baudhayana Sulba Sutra (6th century BCE). The word trigonometry is similar to ‘Trikonamiti’ meaning ‘measuring triangular forms.’ The Sanskrit text, Surya Siddhanta (4th century CE) describes details of trigonometry which were introduced to Europe by Briggs in the 16th century. The ratio of the circumference to the diameter of a circle is known as Pi. The text Baudhyana Shulba Sutra mentions this ratio to be approximately equal to 3. Aryabhatta in 499 CE worked out the value of Pi to the fourth decimal place as 3.1416. In 825 CE the Arab mathematician Mohammed Ibna Musa says that “This value has been given by the Hindu (Indians).” Present day calculations give its value of Pi as 3.1415926535.

Acharya Charak has been crowned as the father of Medicine. His renowned work, the “Charak Samhita”, is considered as an encyclopedia of Ayurveda, the oldest known medicinal system. His principles, diagnoses, and cures retain their potency and truth even after a couple of millennia. When the science of anatomy was confused with different theories in Europe, Acharya Charak revealed through his innate genius and inquiries the facts on human anatomy, embryology, pharmacology, blood circulation and diseases like diabetes, tuberculosis, heart disease, etc. In the “Charak Samhita” he has described the medicinal qualities and functions of 100,000 herbal plants. He has emphasized the influence of diet and activity on mind and body. Susruta is known as the father of surgery and is the author of the book Susruta Saṃhita, in which he describes over 300 surgical procedures, 120 surgical instruments and classifies human surgery in eight categories. He lived, taught and practiced his art on the banks of the Ganges in the area that corresponds to the present day city of Varanasi in North India. The medical works of both Sushruta and Charaka were translated into Arabic language during the Abbasid Caliphate (750 AD). These Arabic works made their way into Europe via intermediaries.

In ancient India, chemistry was called Rasayan Shastra, Rasa-Vidya, Rasatantra and Rasakriya all of which roughly mean ‘Science of liquids’. The Iron Pillar at Delhi is verily a rust-less wonder. It has been standing in open for more than a millennium in the heat, dust and rain, but except for the natural erosion it has not caught rust. This kind of a rust-proof iron had not been smelted anywhere else in the world. Another instance of Indian metallurgy is the copper statue of Gautama Buddha found at Sultan Ganj in Bihar. The statue is 2.13 meters high and weighs nearly a ton. Methods for the extraction of metals like gold, silver, tin and copper from their ores and their purification are mentioned in Rasaratnakara of Nagarjuna. In his treatise, he has also listed the apparatus that was used by earlier alchemists. The process of distillation, liquefaction, sublimation and roasting were also mentioned. Nagarjuna also discussed, in detail, the possibility of transmutation of base metals into gold. But although he could not produce gold, these techniques did yield metals with gold like yellowish brilliance. Nagarjuna has also discussed methods for the preparation of mercury like calamine. Later Nagarjuna seems to have turned towards organic chemistry and medicine. He has written a text called Uttaratantra which is supposed to be a supplement to an earlier text the Shusrutasamahita which is said to have been written by Shusruta in the 8th century B.C. Only a few decades after Nagarjuna, India was invaded by the Mohammedans: Mahmud of Ghazni had raided and plundered Nagarjuna’s hometown of Somnath in 1020 A.D. It is possible that Nagarjuna’s texts fell into the hands of the invaders. While the invaders ruthlessly destroyed the architectural achievements of this country and imposed their despotic rule, they also transmitted Indian sciences to the outside world. Alongwith Mahmud of Ghazni came scholars like Al Beruni who studied Indian texts and translated them into Arabic. Many Indian ideas of medicine were incorporated into the Unani system of medicine of the Arabs. Nagarjuna’s works could not have escaped their attention. It is possible that the technique of alchemy was borrowed by the Arabs from India. In the ancient world there is no reference to alchemy. We first hear of it in the medieaval Europe. The homeland of the Arabs is not rich in metals, thus alchemy and the smelting of metals could not have been indigenous to the Arabs. Thus the Arabs seem to have borrowed the technique of transforming base metals info gold-like metals from India. The Arabs called the technique Al Kimia which according to the Oxford Dictionary literally means the ‘transformation of metals’. Al means ‘The’ and Khimia which is derived from the Greek term Khemia means ‘to transmute metals’. But westerners did not appear to have had the knowledge of the technique of alchemy. This is borne out by the fact that the term Alchemy which the westerners use for describing this technique was borrowed from the Arabs. The word A1chemy is obviously a corruption of the term Al Kimia which the Arabs gave to the technique of converting base metals into gold like substances which they culled out from Indian texts on the subject.

India has been reputed for its iron and steel since Greek and Roman times with the earliest reported finds of high-carbon steels in the world coming from the early Christian era, while Greek accounts report the manufacture of steel in India by the crucible process. Wootz is the anglicized version of ukku in the languages of the states of Karnataka, and Andhra Pradesh, a term denoting steel. Literary accounts suggest that steel from the southern part of the Indian subcontinent was exported to Europe, China, the Arab world and the Middle East. In the 12th century the Arab Idrisi says ‘The Hindus excel in the manufacture of iron. It is impossible to find anything to surpass the edge from Indian steel’.

India’s contribution to the field of astronomy has been unparalleled with seminal works done by legends like Aryabhatta, Varahamihir, Brahmagupta, Lalla, Bhaskaracharya, etc. The link given below is a brilliant presentation of the contributions of ancient indians to the field of sciences.

Chanakya is traditionally identified as Kautilya or Vishnu Gupta, who authored the ancient Indian political treatise called Arthasastra. He is considered as the pioneer of the field of economics and political science in India, and his work is thought of as an important precursor to Classical Economics. Chanakya’s works predate Machiavelli’s by about 1,800 years.

The earliest history of music in India can be traced back to the Vedic ages, over two thousand years back. The concept of Naadbrahma is seen being manifest in the Vedic ages. All organised music traces its origins back to the Sama veda which contains the earliest known form of organised music. The earliest raga owes its origin to the Sama veda. The first reference to music was made by Panini in 500 BC and the first reference to musical theory was found in `Rikpratisakhya` in 400 BC. Bharata Natyashastra, which was written on 4th century AD, contains several chapters on music, which was probably the first clear written work on music that has divided music into octaves and twenty-two keys. The next important work on music was `Dathilan` that also mentions the existence of twenty-two srutis per octave. According to ancient notion, these twenty-two srutis are the only keys that can be made by the human being.

@Ankit.. u dumbshit can u give any evidence that Ayesha (ra) was pregnant? in those days there was no birth control pills. how come she did not get pregnant? why does not ur filthy mind think about that? u talked about medical science.. dont u know a girl after her puberty which starts around the age of nine for the girls, can be able to be pregnant? but still she never got pregnant? u dubmshits why always take it as for sexual purpose? why dont u use ur brain to know what was the reason for marriage? can u show me one evidence which states that Ayesha (ra) was unhappy with beloved prophet and her marriage?.. when all his other wives were either widows with children, the first wife Khadija (ra) was double of his age with children with whom he lived 25 years in his adult age now that person in his 50s when sexual desire dies married Ayesa (ra) out of lust? why dont u wash ur filthy brain with ganga jal?

yes we believe Quran is for all the ages.. but what do u mean by following Mohammed (pbuh) and his companion? r u talking or shitting? Quran and Mohammed (pbuh) both are same? we follow his teaching but r we supposed to copy everything of his lifestyle? most of the time he ate date palm to live, are we muslims supossed to eat date palm to live? he rode camel, are we muslims supossed to ride camel? he live in a desert, are we muslims supposed to leave our home and live in desert?

a little learning is a dangerous thing… thats the case with u.. we muslims are well capable to understand what should be copied and what not… many things beloved prophet did but can we muslims compare ourself with our prophet? we are not superstitious like u..we know whats our limitations are.. i suggest u get a life…

If the Qu’ran is for all the ages you dumb f==k then how was this not condemened by allah with his foresight that this was wrong . I know you cant do everything exactly like him and his companions, but Muhammad could receive so called prophecies about science so why culdnt he receive one predicting this filthy behaviour and regardless of whether pregnant or not child marriage robs a girl of her childhood-time necessary to develop physically, emotionally and psychologically. In fact, early marriage inflicts great emotional stress as the young woman is removed from her parents’ home to that of her husband and in-laws. Her husband, who will invariably be many years her senior, will have little in common with a young teenager. It is with this strange man that she has to develop an intimate emotional and physical relationship. She is obliged to have intercourse, although physically she might not be fully developed. So just because he was nice with her does that mean we should all go get children and treat them nicely but sexually? do you think all paedophiles are abusive? fr you to get into jannah as 1 sect out of 72 you must do as muhammad and his companions do or do you not know your own quran you piece of shit! so this was not a book for all the ages…and you are a dumbass

I have one simple question for all the followers of so-called great religion…islam – What is the contribution of islam for the mankind…did you guys invented any medical treatment, any medicine, any technology. You people didn’t, and not even your mohmmad knew that you people have got a black gold (petroleum) deposits underground. It was a white man who discovered oil wells. Your prophet didn’t told you about this. Just compare your population to number of inventions and to the number of Nobel prizes. One more thing…just compare the civilization of middle east pre-islam and post-islam. Post-islam only wars and invasions and attacks killing innocent people who don’t believe your religion.

@Raphael: “Now we must picture that same man in a room with an innocent little girl’

For ur inormation muslims will never pictureise that coz muslims are very aware about the situation and well aware about the history and custom of the society of that time. why dont u use ur brain to read the the social custom of arab as well as other countries of that time? u wont because ur bankrupt mind does not enjoy that… rather u enjoy pictureising something with ur lustly brain enjoys…and no wonder why child abuse, incest, rape, audultry is dominating ur so called western society. u talk about child abuse, go and find how many childs are being raped everyday in ur western country.. let me remind u that at that time islam had more enemy than friend in arab and if any christian or jews arabs would consider that marriage wrong they would talk about it.. now who r u the ambassador of morality? where have u learnt that? Ayesha (ra) was already engaged with another person but that person broke the engagement…. this shows that marriage in young age was custom of that time… now u r born in different culture, different time and u r judging the earlier custom? thats what we call hypocrisy…. throughout the history westerners have taken every weapon to distort islam coz islam is the threat for them that the churches have to close their shops if islam rises… and the same thumb-sucking is followed and copied by other religion to stop islam.. but by Allah all the corrupted religion will be washed out by Islam very soon..

You Muslims are quick to point out immorality around the world, especially in the West. It seems, then, that they are suggesting a very inconsistent message. When confronted with an immoral practice in another culture, Muslims cry out in one accord, “We condemn these practices, for they are against the eternal, perfect, and unalterable Law of God!” Yet, whenever the moral character of Muhammad is being scrutinized, Muslims suddenly say, “Don’t judge Muhammad! You should remember that he was from a different culture! Marrying young girls was common in Arabia, and it still is, thanks to Muhammad’s precedent. Different people have different moral standards, so no one should worry about Muhammad’s sexual relationship with a nine-year-old girl.”

This convenient switch from moral absolutism to moral relativism is logically unacceptable. If it is wrong to judge the practices of another culture, then both Muhammad and the Qur’an were wrong for condemning immoral practices in Arabia. But if condemning immoral practices is acceptable, then Muslim apologists need a better response to criticisms of Muhammad’s relationship with Aisha.

@Islam is the way So the customs of the day dictate to the Qu’ran rather then the other way? thats bull crap! If the Quran was the word of God for all ages then why are you not following Muhammad and his companions you dumb f==k? Why are you not sleeping with little girls, dosent God know better and can see into the future and know that science proves that early pregnancy can have harmful consequences for both young mothers and their babies. According to UNICEF, no girl should become pregnant before the age of 18 because she is not yet physically ready to bear children. Babies of mothers younger than 18 tend to be born premature and have low body weight; such babies are more likely to die in the first year of life. The risk to the young mother’s own health is also greater. I thought Muhammad and his Book were in accordance with science.. couldn’t Allah have revealed to him that this common practice amongst Arabs was wrong as we know now and he could have eliminated this disgusting practice! I guess only your mind is bankrupt then haha 😀

Muslims are too hasty in dismissing Muhammad’s relationship with Aisha. We can’t simply ignore a prophet’s marriage to a nine-year-old girl. Muslims view Muhammad as the highest example of a moral life, but his marriage to Aisha conflicts with that view. If they want to put Muhammad forward as the standard of morality, Muslims need to come to terms with the many questionable things Muhammad did, as well as the awful impact of these actions.

There is a simple, but highly explicit, way to evaluate the importance of Muhammad’s marriage to Aisha. We must begin by trying to get a mental picture of a morally perfect man. For Muslims, this will include all the things they have been taught about Muhammad. According to their picture, he is kind, generous, patient, humble, and trustworthy. He protects orphans and widows, endures persecution, helps the needy, and promotes justice. He prays faithfully, fasts regularly, and obeys God in everything. He is loyal to his friends and patient with his enemies. He never gives in when tempted with evil. Now we must picture that same man in a room with an innocent little girl. He takes away her doll, climbs on top of her, and puts his penis inside her. She doesn’t know what is happening because she is too young to know much about sex. Frightened and confused, she cries because of the pain and bleeds on her bed, but she tries to remain quiet out of respect for her new husband, who, in return, endangers her life.

If a person is able to keep the same vision of moral perfection throughout that description, he may have the faith necessary to be a Muslim. But if his vision of the perfect man is at odds with what Muhammad did on numerous occasions, he will need to look elsewhere for an ideal human being.

and guess what she was very very happy with her life almost 40% of hadith was narated by her. and she regarded our beloved prophet with so much deep and utmost respect.. she became widow and thats why u r becoming her advocate? who employed u? here is something u should know.. about satidaha pratha which u hindus made a custom to burn the widows with their dead husband..smell ur won shit raj… its stinking..

She was married off without her consent at the age of 6 to a 50 year old man who already had several wives. The marriage was consummated when she was a child of 9. She became a widow at 18, and Mohammed declared that no one else could marry his wives after he was gone. She was a sexually abused child by a 50 year old child rapist/molester her supposed “husband.” Stuck being a young widow unable to marry again. Yeah what a love story.

(1). Quran 5.5. Made lawful to you this day are At-Tayyibat [all kinds of Halal (lawful) foods, which Allah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, etc., milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits, etc.). The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals, etc.) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time, when you have given their due Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e. taking them in legal wedlock) not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends. And whosoever disbelieves in the Oneness of Allah and in all the other Articles of Faith [i.e. His (Allah’s), Angels, His Holy Books, His Messengers, the Day of Resurrection and Al-Qadar (Divine Preordainments)], then fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.

Quran: 5.51 O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliya’ (friends, protectors, helpers, etc.), they are but Auliya’ to one another. And if any amongst you takes them as Auliya’, then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust.

See the difference between the 2 verses… first verse is talking about those christian and jews believers to whom Allah revealed the Torah and Gospel and those who believed in oneness of god. they are the true followers of Jesus and Moses and we love them. The 2nd verse is talking about the hypocrites those who distorted the gospel and torah and now they believe in Trinity that is 3 god.. so Allah is talking about the polytheists chirstians and jews.. Allah already mentioned in the quran many times about the true followers of jesus and moses and also warned us about the corrupters of the Scripture. “nangi aankho” se padne ki result aisa hi hota hain..

here is the explanation: 2.62 Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve .

(2) 2.65 And indeed you knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath (i.e. Saturday). We said to them: “Be you monkeys, despised and rejected.”

the verse is talking about those jews who corrupted the matter of sabath and Allah did not make them monkey, Allah called or regarded them as monkey and despised and rejected them. is it too difficult to understand? maybe ur hindu mythological story stuck in ur brain that a rishi will curse someone and he will become monkey..

u said its been 1400 years Quran came and still 75% people hate it… u forgot that islam is the 2nd largest religion and fastest growing religion with 235% increse rate whereas chritianity has 45% increse rate.. although Islam is the youngest of all the major religions but it is going to exceed chritianity very soon…and what about ur hinduism? dont u say that it is most ancient religion? how many people follow it in the world? i simply dont understand why do u hindus try to point fingers to others when u know that u r smelling so badly?

(3) 2.67 And (remember) when Musa (Moses) said to his people: “Verily, Allah commands you that you slaughter a cow.” They said, “Do you make fun of us?” He said, “I take Allah’s Refuge from being among Al-Jahilun (the ignorants or the foolish).”

2.72 And (remember) when you killed a man and fell into dispute among yourselves as to the crime. But Allah brought forth that which you were hiding.

2.73 So We said: “Strike him (the dead man) with a piece of it (the cow).” Thus Allah brings the dead to life and shows you His Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) so that you may understand.

so do u understand english? these verses talking about when moses called his people to sacrifice cow, they did not believe inspite of giving many signs but when they killed a person and justice has to be done Allah ordered Moses to stirke the dead man with a piece of sacrificed cow.. and Allah did this to prove his the significance of sacrificing animal. Allah does not need any help from anyone to know who killed but it was for those jews and Moses Allah helped them in that way.. and again this is not a Tarika for finding the murderer this was a sign for moses and his people of that time, the verse is very clear.. dnt use ur hindu tarika and retuals, jaribooti connection with quran..

(4). u r right u read the quran with naked eyes? its just after 1 verse Allah came to know the weakness of muslims!!!? do u know the history of rise of islam? do u know that Quran was revealed during the period of more than 3 years? do u know by the time when Allah is revealing verse 66 already a war has taken place? plz read when these 2 verses were revealed… what was the time difference… i am surprised u r talking about education i dnt see anything in u.

(5) 33.60 If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease (evil desire for adultery, etc.), and those who spread false news among the people in Al-Madinah, cease not, We shall certainly let you overpower them, then they will not be able to stay in it as your neighbours but a little while.

33.61 Accursed, wherever found, they shall be seized and killed…

why dont u quote the previous verse?? is that u who is among those hypocrites? Islam is not a mythology.. its justice… and if criminals like u dont like the justice then its ur fault not Allah’s.. 2ndly this verse is not talking about muslim or non muslim its talking about the hypocrites, rapist and criminals…if u want to make friendship with the person who may rape ur daughter or sister or wife u can forgive and befriend with him but islam gives justice. no doubt why in india 98% rapist are walking free. coz people like are their Savior.

rest of the arguments that u brought by Allah we all muslims have the answers but its seems like it will be wastage. u said our beloved prophet married so many in the age of 50.. answer has been given by Dr Annie Besant (Dr Annie Besant in ‘The Life and Teachings of Mohammad,’ Madras, 1932)…”But do you mean to tell me that the man who in the full flush of youthful vigour, a young man of four and twenty (24), married a woman much his senior, and remained faithful to her for six and twenty years (26), at fifty years of age when the passions are dying married for lust and sexual passion? Not thus are men’s lives to be judged. And you look at the women whom he married, you will find that by every one of them an alliance was made for his people, or something was gained for his followers, or the woman was in sore need of protection.”

about the marriage of Ayesha (ra)…Ayesha(ra) was engaged to someone else before she got engaged to Muhammad(saw): Lady Ayesha(ra) was already engaged to a non-Muslim man named Jober Ibn Al-Moteam Ibn Oday. Back then, the people of Mecca did not object to Ayesha(ra)’s engagement to Jober because she was physically mature enough to be considered for marriage. Her parents saw that and they engaged her to Jober.

The only reason why Ayesha (ra)’s father, Abu Baker Al Siddeek, broke her engagement with Jober is because he was a non-Muslim. Later, a woman named Kholeah Bint Hakeem suggested for Muhammad (saw) to marry Ayesha(ra), because Muhammad (saw) and Abu Baker became best friends. Muhammad (saw) engaged Ayesha(ra) for 2 years before he married her.

Abû Bakr (ra) is also recorded to have spoken these words: “There are three things I cherish most: a look at your face, to spend my wealth on you and that my daughter is thy wife.”

for ur kind information Ayesha (ra) was 7 when she was engaged and married after the age of puberty that is 9. ask any doctors what is the puberty time for women in hot climet, and show me one verse fro ur hindu scripture where it mentions any minimum age for marriage but islam atleast makes it an article for minimum age of puberty. show me any evidence that out prophet had sex with any women who lost war… ur bankrupt lusty mind thinks that way…

about the death of children of our beloved prophet… who have not got hardship in life who were honest? Rabindranath Tagore lost his children, Charlie Chaplin made the world laugh but he also had to loose his children… every prophet of Allah had face hardship… oh come on dont give me story of ur false Babas, gurus who claim to save people from hardship.. like eat panipuri and wealth will start comming.. use plastic and iron tounge cleaner and u Kripa will start comming… comeone give me a break.. neither our prophet nor we muslim sale faulse power or kripa of god like hindus.. so dont compare ur brankrupt mindset with the Islamic intellect..

Mohammed wanted to be the prophet of the Jews and Christians. So he said the religion he created Islam where he placed himself in a key role was the real version of Judaism and Christianity according to Mohammed. This was a way to get Jews and Christians to convert and follow his version of Judaism/Christianity by calling the faith of Jews and Christians corrupted versions.

As far as the Jews and Christians are concerned their scriptures are NOT corrupted, and their practices have been consistent, and Mohammed was not a prophet of God.

He only waited until she was 9 to have sexual intercourse. Between the ages of 6-9 Mohammed “thighed” Aisha. He had other forms of sexual intimacy with her as a child.

Here is a fatwa that shows Mohammed thighing Aisha

“Fatwa (religious sanction)

Number 41409 dated 7/5/1421

August 8, 2000

Praise is to God and blessings on the prophet that is the last of all prophets.

The permanent committee for scientific research and religious sanctions has looked onto the request of Abu Abdallah Mohammed Al Shamry which was sent to the committee from the general secretariat of the Committee of Higher Scholars number 1809 date 3/5/1421. The requester asked the following:

Lately, It has spread on a large scale, especially in weddings, the habit of thighing little boys; what is the ruling of the Quran on this? Especially, that God’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) has thighed Ayesha (may God be pleased with her)

The committee, after studying the request, has ruled the following:

It is not the true guidance of Muslims throughout centuries to resort to the use of these unlawful practices, which were imported to our countries through the immoral videos that are being sent by the infidels and enemies of Islam. As for the thighing of the messenger of God to his fiancée Ayesha, she was six years old and he could not engage in sexual intercourse with her because of her young age, therefore he used to place his penis between her thighs and rub it lightly. In addition, the messenger of God had full control of his penis in contrary to the believers….” http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/muhammad-thighied-aish/

The Jewish Princess Safiya was one woman who was a booty of war. Mohammed and his people killed her father, tortured his husband, and she was married off to Mohammed after witnessnessing all the men folk killed.

“…After securing paragon beautiful Safiyaah daughter of Huyayy Prophet Muhammad has had sex with this young Safiyya in the tent, on their way back to Medina on the same night. Here is the precarious story: Merciful Prophet asked Bilal, the Negro crier of prayer to fetch Safiyyah to his (Muhammad’s) camp. Bilal brought Safiyyah and her cousin straight across the battlefield strewn with dead and close by the corpses of Kinana and his cousin. The two cousin sisters of Safiyyah shrieked in terror when they witnessed the grotesque scene of the slain dead bodies of their dearest relatives that they had to cross over. They tremulously begged a stone-hearted Bilal for mercy but to no avail. When they were brought to Muhammad, he cursed the panic-stricken cousins as devilish and cast his mantle around Safiyyah indicating that she was to be his own. Muhammad consoled a frustrated Dhiya by giving him Safiyyah’s cousin sisters. According to Ibn Sa’d Prophet Muhammad purchased Safiyyah from Dhiyah for seven camels (around US$ 2,450). On the same night (during the day her husband and all relatives were slaughtered) that Muhammad took possession of Safiyyah, he hastened to his tent to sleep with her. This was of course a holy character of Prophet of Islam!

Here is what Ibn Sa’d writes: “-.when it was night, he entered a tent and she entered with him. Abu Ayyub came there and passed the night by the tent with a sword keeping his head at the tent. When it was morning and the Apostle of Allah, may Allah bless him.” To hide the lascivious character of Muhammad, Muslim biographers often mention that he married Safiyyahh before he slept with her. But they forget to mention that Muhammad did not follow the rule of waiting period (three monthly periods) to sleep with Safiyyahh. He slept with her in the same day she was captured.

Above stories out of Sahi Hadiths clearly and undoubtedly have confirmed at least two things: (1) Prophet killed all those surrendered unarmed Jews in cold blood, (2) Prophet was attracted by Safiyya’s alluring beauty and he had sex with her (I really don’t care after marriage or before marriage) in a period when that poor Safiyya was in terrible grief by loosing her father, brother, husband and relatives and before the bloods of her relatives was even dry. By what yardstick can we measure the mercifulness and compassionateness of our Prophet? Could any Islamist tell me why Prophet of Islam had to set this terrible example?….” http://www.faithfreedom.org/articles/quran-koran/did-prophet-muhammad-order-killing-surrendered-jews-of-banu-quraiza-and-khaybar-a-historical-analysis/

This post is totally biased and a shameful effort to spread hate against Muslims and Islam. There is nothing like wrong about Dr Zakir Naik or any other Islamic Scholars but offcourse difference in opinions are always present among some.

That is the typical desert Abrahamic monotheistic behavior, Islam and Christianity alike. Can’t stand that there are different religions in the world, Sickly believing that everyone who does not believe in your faith goes to hell. No thanks, to the desert Arab version of Judaism, Islam, and no thanks the the precursor of Islam, the desert religion of Christianity (another version of Judaism). We have our own ancient faith much older than yours, and have long been familiar with the divine we don’t need an Arab bedouin version of Judaism.

The founder of modern Turkey, Kemal Ataturk: “This is Islam, an absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, a rotting corpse which poisons our lives.”

Mr agniveer, If you are sooo concerned about zakir naik and all that he tells about Islam ,Vedas etc is wrong then challenge him publicly .BE A MAN agniveer.you Guys have no clue about your own religion.do u guys know atleast what your pandits chant?or what the Sokas mean.But you have sooo much of arrogance,you need someone from some other religion to enlighten about your Vedas what a pity. You guys keep barking ,it cannot stop good from happening.

@raj.hyd.. first I request u to read the quran and bring forth ur argument with reference, thats what an literate scholar does,, bring one thing that cant be truth.. please do not argue with the things that u heard from anyone,,, the Quran is available free of cost in internet u can read..

2ndly no muslim will say that our beloved prophet wrote the Quran, it was relieved to him by Allah through angel Gabriel. and yes prophet was illiterate,, but dnt u think if almost 1/4 of world population of the world are muslim becoze of what that illiterate person said 1400 years ago then his words carries much more wait than anyone? according to a book released which was written by a christian writer among the 100 most influential personalities in of the millennium Mohammed(PBH) ranked 1.. dont u think this is amezing? maybe u may think all the people in the world are crazy only u and some people like u are most literate and intellectual, no problem..western world are now accepting islam in huge number do u think u are more educated and intelligent than them..maybe..

regarding ur question of that Asam lady who married a muslim guy before taking marriage.. according to u this was unislamic and yes this was unislamic but why do u assume everything from 1000s mile away? why dnt u go there and inquire what is the case..if i still consider that the women did not take divore but still maybe she lied to the moulana and if the moulana knew the fact then definitely he did wrong so becoz of that moulana will u blame islam? are u suggesting me that becoz of some hindu guru and baba like,, nirman baba asaram bapu, swami nittyananda i should blame the hindu religion? as I hope u r a literate person I expect u to pass ur comment carefully.. furthermore read the quran and challenge the quran as an educated person.. for ur informations thousand of non-muslims arround the world are doing research on quran to find a mistake in it but for last 1400 years none of them has been able to do so.. we welcome u too to join them…

Muhammad was illiterate because if founder wouldn’t illiterate people considered that he himself concoct the Quran. So these chances became vanish. He himself couldn’t concoct the whole Noble Quran as he was illiterate.

Neither did you (O Muhammad SAW) read any book before it (this Qur’ân), nor did you write any book (whatsoever) with your right hand. In that case, indeed, the followers of falsehood might have doubted. (Al-ankabut:48)

Arabic word “Wahi”, in the sense of revelation, refers to Allah’s guidance for people that was sent down via the prophets,any prophet must﻿ have received the revelation through 1 of the following means:

1. Inspiration, for example, in a dream as that which Ibrahim received while asleep, to sacrifice his son.

2. Words (speech) sent from Allah through a special messenger as the Angel Gabriel was sent to the Prophet . That is the common way of wahi.

However i don’t understand your language, by reading the comments of other commentator i came to know about your misconceptions.

Muhammad (PBUH) was illiterate because if founder wouldn’t illiterate people considered that he himself concoct the Quran. So these chances became vanish. He himself couldn’t concoct the whole Noble Quran as he was illiterate.

Neither did you (O Muhammad SAW) read any book before it (this Qur’ân), nor did you write any book (whatsoever) with your right hand. In that case, indeed, the followers of falsehood might have doubted. (Al-ankabut:48)

Arabic word “Wahi”, in the sense of revelation, refers to Allah’s guidance for people that was sent down via the prophets,any prophet must﻿ have received the revelation through 1 of the following means:

1. Inspiration, for example, in a dream as that which Ibrahim received while asleep, to sacrifice his son.

2. Words (speech) sent from Allah through a special messenger as the Angel Gabriel was sent to the Prophet . That is the common way of wahi.

However i don’t understand your language, by reading the comments of other commentator i came to know about your misconceptions.

You are just another of those hard-working non-Muslim, to taint Islam and Muslims! To abuse n insult Muslims! This is nothinh new for us We expect all these from many non-Muslims. Such attempts were done in Mohammed’s (saw) time, where all the Arabs then were Christians, Jews or idol-worshippers. Look at the Arab world now. All are Muslims Let all Muslims do sincere dua for you that you too become Muslim! Or your generation become! SubhanAllah. Allah can make all things possible An MLA in Assam has recently abandoned her husband and daughter to marry a Muslim boy. There was no force. She converted. When she did, as per Islam,she automatically is freed from her first husband. Her father is still a staunch Hindu and hates Muslims like anything! Look what Allah made his daughter to do! SubhanAllah if not Agniveer, let his future generation get the hedaya (divine intervention from Allah to change life) We can pray this surely. Prayer is the most powerful tool for the Muslims Dear Muslim bros and sisters, lets do this kind of dua for Agniveer as what had happened to the MLA’s father in Assam 1 month back SubhanAllah

Dear john! from your comment, you are trying to prove that Muslims are trying to convert non muslim to islam through violence and by killng them….you are wrong brother..half knowledge is always dangerous…An article in Reader’s Digest ‘Almanac’, year book 1986, gave the statistics of the increase of percentage of the major religions of the world in half a century from 1934 to 1984. This article also appeared in ‘The Plain Truth’ magazine. At the top was Islam, which increased by 235%, and Christianity had increased only by 47%. May one ask, which war took place in this century which converted millions of people to Islam? Today the fastest growing religion in America is Islam. The fastest growing religion in Europe is Islam. Which sword is forcing people in the West to accept Islam in such large numbers? The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. If they wanted, they had the power of converting each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India are non- Muslims. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness today that Islam was not spread by the sword.The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. If they wanted, they had the power of converting each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India are non- Muslims. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness today that Islam was not spread by the sword. And Quran says: ““Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error” -[Al Qur’an 2:256]

“Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious.”-[Al Qur’an 16:125] .

Islam doesn’t permit Muslims to convert Non Muslim to islam by Killing or by violence…Allah knows best! May Allah guide you in a righteous path !!!!

IT IS BETTER FOR EVERYBODY TO UNDERSTAND THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY WHOS IS THE WINNER NOT I OR YOU IT IS THE SHAITAN – THE DEVIL .SO KINDLY READ BOOKS OF RELIGIOUS WHETHER IT BE QURAN OR VEDA OR UPANISHED BUT READ NA -EVERYBODY CAN ARGUE BUT WITHOUT KNOWING THE BASE HOW CAN ANYBODY TALK . THIS FIGHTING IS NOTHING BUT MISGUIDANCE SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO PUT THE LEFT INDICATOR AND TURN RIGHT .ME OR YOU HAVE LESS KNOWLEDGE WHY DONT WE KEEP OUR MOUTH SHUT AND ASK THE SCHOLARS.

islam is a religion of peace and tolerant which is a biggest lie and fraud , muslims are the most intolerant creatures in the world , daily violence against hindus ,christians and other ethnics continuing on . islam is a religion of peace showed in pakistan,afghanistan,nigeria ,iraq,syria and somalia , within a decade 19,000 souls have became peaceful, in india everywhere muslims make violence against hindus , muslims are same at everywhere stupids,criminals,rapists,liars

I dnt only think that u are hate monger,, but u r the biggest dumb I have ever seen.. we cant expect any better here in this website… but all the verses u quoted did u notice anything strange? does ur corrupted brain need an anti-virus to clean the germs from ur brain? dnt u miss anything on those verses?????????????

forget it !!!!

I dnt expect u to use ur borrowed brain (If u have any)… do u see that except 1 all the verses ends without full stop? try use ur common sense if u have that those hate mongers internet ghosts has not been quoted even the full verse..coz they knew that the answers are there.. oh maybe i am telling to the wrong person.. maybe u have done the job… but if u have i want ask one question.. did u forgot to download ur common sense at that time while u were doing so??

i have something to say that all you hatemongers are spineless and Impotent that are so ashamed to claim your real identity.. you are appearing in different name and as representative of different religions distorting Muslims to prove that all the religions hate muslims… this is the money trick of agniveer and his girly cheerleaders…i dnt know when u agniveer’s will man-up.. i dnt expect u to become like a real man, i am just asking u to be atleast a man like someone who can say what he is…..”Agniveer” name sounds but as i said “Barking Dog Never Bites”.. Agniveer claims that they does researches,, and they are acting like scholars… if this is what comes from ur direction agniveer,, and u claim that this is what scholar is… u r really putting the scholars in shame….u dnt qualify to be a local train hawker even.. what about vegetable vendor?? thats better for u…

First you said you have many muslim friends. and now r quoting verses from quran to prove that muslim does not take Christian in friend.. are you ok? do you need doctor? now you have actually come out of your veil that u are not even a christian. coz even your knowledge in christianity is very poor..you r most probable one of those hate mongers and liers who copy paste and mock against islam.. you are a big muter of lies.. for the anser of your question regarding those verses that you are talking about killing… dont you know those verses were revealed on battle field when quraish and other enymies were attacking Prophet (PBH) and his followers? go to quran and read 2 or 3 verses before and after of all those verses and you will get answers… but why would u? it seems like you have been born hatemongers… dont you know the verse where it says “Among friendship with you christians will will be the closest”? you are really not a christian.. you are so ashamed of ur religion that u cant even name it…

I just ask you to go and read 2 verses before and after of all those verses you will get the context and you will know the answers… and tell me if any filthy dirt among the hatemongers like u can put a finger on quran…. dont tell me that muslims to act like IMPOTENT like u (as you feel ashamed to name your religion) that they should surrender in battle field and runaway instead of fighting the enemy… that maybe your impotent cowardly mind may think and you may lick the foot of those hatemongers anti-muslims to please them by copy&pasting half finished verses out of context. the problem is they are not brainwashing u… u are brainwashing them… and u claimed u have muslim frineds? I am sorry to say that u if have any.. then they should consider a street dog better friend that filthy person like u,, but maybe they dnt know ur true color..maybe u also have given them an impression that u r good to be friend by hiding ur evil in u… but u know the evil will unleash and expose some day.. and if those ur muslim friends come to know this is u… they will surely feel sorry for u that u dnt deserve to be their friend… I stared by conversation with u in a constructive manner jut like information exchange but later on u came out to be a hardcore anti-muslim…so here u r not actually asking for an explanation regarding those verses but actually u r unleashing the evil that u have in ur heart… keep doing that, all your life, will all the power and method u have like those medieval writers tried to stop islam by distorting It writting millions of books, u and all your hatemongers and co. do your best… but trust me not a single brick of Islam u can move…its largest growing religion in the world,,, and its increasing in very high rate in western countries… maybe when tomorrow we will be leading the working u will come to lick our foot… but we muslims dont bow to anyone neither we let anyone bow before us… so sorry we wont let u do that….

@Brother John: I am not here to look for truth i have all the truth i need in Jesus Christ! I am here only to debate religious ideas and stand up for my hindu brothers who dont deserve to all go to hell sorry! since as you said all their bodies will be witness to the message so they will all go to hell……

Your Statement above… i just need to ask you are you sure you are christian? becoz chritian faith is this that there is no other salvation except the blood of Jesus Christ.. u r here as a lawer of Hindu brother.. ask your Bible if there is any salvation for them or not? ask your church priest? ask you gospel preachers…. are you sure you are not a mental sick?

@ the only mentally sick one is you following blindly a violent religion like Islam:

this is what one finds in the Qu’ran:

– Truly, God loves those who fight – Fight & slay the pagans wherever you find them, & seize them, beleaguer them, & lie in wait for them in every stratagem. – Chop off their hands & chop off their fingertips – When you meet the unbelievers, chop off their heads – Fight & slay those who don’t convert wherever you find them – Believers, take neither Jew nor Christians for your friends – Those who follow Muhammad are ruthless to unbelievers – Those who reject Islam are “the vilest of creatures” & thus deserve no mercy – Fight them until Islam reigns supreme (throughout the world)

There are more than 100 verses in the Qur’an (Koran) advocating the use of violence to spread Islam.

this is why i stand up for anyone who favours peace, hindus aren’t terrorizing the world! I don’t agree with everything in hinduism but I definitely stand against a what the qu’ran teaches. Instead of attacking me like a weak person, why not try to search through your religion and read your hadiths which give a history of your prophet.

“I am the prophet that laughs when killing my enemies.” (Hadith) let me guess thats from the hadith you consider not -authentic? lol

Christians martyrs say; “I will die for what I believe”. A Muslim martyr says; “You will die for what I believe”….

How many Muslims have tried to kill you? Why’re you alive if we kill all non Muslims? We don’t kill innocents non-believers. If someone kill an innocent human being he will go against Islam. Black sheep can be found in every community. If a Muslim do something wrong it doesn’t mean Qur’an teaches wrong. You have read the verses of Qur’an out of their context . You have visited anti-Islamic websites. Without knowing the real meaning of verses & without establishing the facts surrounding it you’re trying to spread hate against another religion. We Muslims take different meaning from our scripture but you non Muslims take different meanings. You’re trying his best to show Islam is the ruthless religion. Either your just an ignorant or you have a black heart.

Assalamualaikum! Brother! The same thing as you mentioned above , i was trying to convince him that one can’t learn from all religions but Brother John was not convinced. He says he is learning many things from others religion. Like you said we should leave him alone. He has chosen his way so that’s okay. Wassalam!

The only one blind between the two of us is you. Mr. peaceful guy in your previous posts you always mumble “peace, peace, one should tolerant to others faith” , But now I’m clear that you’re not peaceful but a Hypocrite. Peaceful Hunh! So Mr. Hypocrite guy your God is love but now your doing nothing but spreading hate against another religion. So don’t claim to be peaceful, Hypocrite!

how can i be hateful when condemning aspects of a intolerant religion? i am not hateful towards muslims, i have many friends who follow islam. But I have problems with some of the core false beliefs in islam. I’m not the one going around telling people they will go to hell if they dont follow your way, no hindus are going around threatening people with hellfire and torment.

saying that, yes i have gotten carried away with some of my posts.. and I apologize to you and other muslims if i have been offensive. Jesus taught us to be more like him and i am not acting like Jesus at all in my deeds on this site. If you would forgive me i would appreciate it. and as you said go your way and i mine. peace be upon you

“how can i be hateful when condemning aspects of a intolerant religion?” Re: “when on of the commentators named as “Truthseeker” given his own views then in his reply u told him; “you feel that way because you have no tolerance to other peoples beliefs”. This claim of yours shows that you have tolerance to others people beliefs & u can ignore such aspects which seem to be violent. The others who are condemning one another because they can also give such a excuse like u gave above.

However one can analyse any text but one should full fill his claim, not be arrogant, not b bias & not be ignorant.

Well, avoid hypocracy because the worst kind of Hypocrite is the one who lets himself be a Hypocrite. Bye.

@Sister Maria: I am pleased with your contextual knowledge of Islam.. but i think Brother John is not here to search for truth rather for argument just for the shake of argument..he is among those who understand everything but dnt want to say that he understood. coz his ego and bankrupt mentality does not let his say so….live him alone for sometime.. maybe he will get well soon..

Now you are showing prejudice brother by trying to attack me, shows your arguments are weak only.

I am not here to look for truth i have all the truth i need in Jesus Christ! I am here only to debate religious ideas and stand up for my hindu brothers who dont deserve to all go to hell sorry! since as you said all their bodies will be witness to the message so they will all go to hell. keep believing that. And may God show you his true way of love not works and fear. Jesus never went and had sex with a 9 year old sorry,

Jesus never had sex slaves.

Jesus never checked all the captive men and boys to see how many pubic hairs they had and if they did have a few considered them men and murdered them.

Jesus never said to beat your wife

Islam has legalized lying if it enhances the evils of Islam.

Islam has legalized stealing if the stolen goods belong to an “infidel.”

Islam has legalized covetousness if the goods coveted belong to an “infidel.”

Islam has legalized name calling. Jews and Christians to Muslims are apes and pigs.

Brother John: Now I believe that you are full of ignorant..first you need to put your ego and prejudice aside.. first I said that Allah will not punish anyone without sending the massage first.. if anyone can prove on the day of judgement that they have not received the message of Islam… Allah will forgive them..but they cant prove because every part of their body will be witnesses. just like u also cant.. coz u know about Islam..so try your best to give this excuse to Allah that u never knew about Islam so u have not accepted it.. try hard to deceive Allah.. good luck..Further more ignorant people always comes up with excuses..live with that…

how does that make sense? haha he will not punish them if they can prove that they have not received the message? how does a little child prove she has got the message? and how will every part of a baby’s body be witness to the message? thats ridiculous sorry. I know about islam, that we know ,but that has nothing to do with millions of other people. If you want to believe that is fine by me. And don’t you worry about my soul, God knows I have looked for truth and am honest before him. If he wanted me to believe in islam he would but his power in my heart but when i read the bible my heart sings, and I believe with all my heart that jesus died for my sins and that god loves me and all of us. I have given you warnings to search in your hearts about some aspects of your religion. If you dont want to question anything out of fear then thats fine but god gave you an enquiring mind to question things and to look for the truth he also made you human with plenty mistakes so if he wants to punish you for the way he made you then go and preach that fear. I can only pray for you to open your heart at least to other ideas. god bless you

Your words: “Millions of people cant be unjust with their lord such as millions of buddhists and hindus, they are just people who believe in God and his different faces”. Re: Yes. They’re unjust sinner as well. They believe in God in different faces right. They believe God is a cow, God is a rat, God is a mere idol & you believe God is love (while love is just a feeling) & u believe God is one but (3 in one or one in 3?) . You all utter nothing but a lie. Sorry!

My Qur’an says My Allah is Most Truthful. He likes Truth. He likes Truthful people. He’ll accept the prays of only that people who pray to Allah. If someone pray to a cow then Y should Allah accept his/her prayers? How can someone get access to Allah if follow the wrong pathway which teaches noting but lies?

He also like punishing people, admit it your allah is a god of war punishment. your blinded sister! sorry If you have evil thoughts in your heart towards God and knowingly reject him in because you hate godliness then yes , but someone honestly following what they believe is a righteous path will not be punished for it sorry. there are so many paths to take with regards to religion so only your harsh moon god allah would punish people when really the example set forth of your violent religion is alot of terrorism and intolerance and fear.and based on its bad example is not going to convince people , only through fear!

i think you and me have talked enough now, you havent come up with any good answers for islam’s problems. enjoy your life and peace be upon you

As per your faith; 1- “Every human being is sinful by nature”. 2- “But Jesus dies on the cross to save us from those sins”. 3- “So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” Romans 14:12″.

Your additional belief is ” no innocent child’d never go to Hell”.

From the above 3 statements it doesn’t appear that ” child’d never go to Hell. While my religion clearly says ”every child is born as a Muslim”.

Furthermore, Can you see the contradiction in above 3 statements of yours. Firstly every one is a sinful by birth but your Jesus died on cross to save all of you from your sins. So if Jesus had paid for your sin then why there is the question of, “So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” Romans 14:12″? Why you all deserve punishments all have done bad things even from an early age been naughty as children? Brother! First understand the concept first then try to convince others please!

“if a child who is polytheist who dosen’t know better but grew up a hindu dies only knowing what she was taught then she is INNOCENT and wont burn in hellfire forever sorry.”

in the above statement of yours, you yourself is confused.. you either talk about a little baby who does not understand anything but depend on his/her parents or family or you talk about that little baby grows up in a polytheistic society.. both are not same.. for an infant baby I hope I answered your question.. now lets come to this point.. that little baby is growing up now not only physically but also mentally and intellectually… now she grows up in Hindu culture for example so she knows about the gods that her parents taught about.. but is she unaware about Allah? if i consider you are a non-muslim (I am guessing) are you unaware about Allah? Now the message has been sent to everyone… And you know the message and u are matured now to understand and make your won decisions.. now please don’t give an excuse to your parents that they have not teach you..coz Islam believes that every individual is responsible for his own action.. now you tell me what will happen to him/her…

That is a lie sir! the message has not been sent to everyone at all. Millions of people have zero clue about Christianuty islam etc at all. .So you explain nothing at all. while some babies may grow up and discover the truth most wont at all in their lifetime. So they are going to hell fire as innocents… sorry your excuse dosen’t hold up at all.

@ Brother John: Bother John U asked a question about what will happen to a infant baby who is born in polytheistic family and u think that the baby will go to hell as per Islam. Because Allah says “who so ever associate any partner in worship with Allah he/she shall burn in hell forever” Sister Maria has tried to answer this question as per her Knowledge in the Quran. I will try answer it in more logical way.. lets know some condition that Islam believes..

1) Islam believes that every new born baby is sinless,, Innocent.. 2) Allah says that he never punish someone without sending his message first.. then who so ever turns face from that message Allah punish him/her… 3) Allah says that there not a place or time that he has not sent his messenger with his message..

from the 3 points above we can easily understand that Allah first send his message then if anyone don’t accept that message Allah punish them. so now u r talking about a little baby who knows nothing about religion, polytheistic or monotheistic theology, nor she worship, neither she associate any partner in worship, nor she understand who is Mohammed, who is Jesus, who is Shiva… for as that little innocent baby dies as baby she goes to heaven. Because Islam considers a baby sinless. this is the glory of Allah.. But this is rather a short coming for Christianity Because Christian belief is that every human being is sinful by nature (The original sin). So a baby is sinful as per Christianity so if she/he dies before knowing who is Jesus then she/he goes to hell.

@Islam is the way Sorry you are wrong no innocent child gets roasted in hellfire though jesus. yes we believe that all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, but jesus dies on the cross to save us from those sins, so those who die not knowing christ are forgiven because Jesus took the sins of the world on his shoulders. So no no innocent child would go to hell for thee things in the christian faith…the bible says: For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.(Romans 6:23) We all deserve punishments all have done bad things even from an early age been naughty as children. But God knows your heart “So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.” Romans 14:12

Moreover, you are a human being & if i say u r a dog, or rat, although you’re just a (power less) human being yet you’d not like because you’re not. There’s no worthy of worship except Allah (The most greatest, Mighty power) but People are worshiping rats, cows, idols & associating many partners with Him, so here people are UNJUST TO THEIR LORD & BECOME SINNER if u say Allah is most merciful than us then this claim also doesn’t allow to b unjust with Allah.

Millions of people cant be unjust with their lord such as millions of buddhists and hindus, they are just people who believe in God and his different faces, thats what they believe, just cause they dont believe in one God dosent make them bad people . We as christian people believe that all will come face to face to God and will be judged fairly. jesus christ has inspired millions around the world to love and change their lives . If lets say this belief was wrong he was not gods son but just a prophet then he still will have done so much to change the world for gods glory. So your book is false because its blatantly trying to get people to become muslim to believe your way and saying even if your life changed by the power of christ but you commited shirk you will roast in hell. this is not wisdom at all and makes no sense and sounds horrible! Many muslims have changed their lives and left islam after a period of reflection on what they feel is a false religion of fear and punishment. The bible says :By their fruits you shall know them and look at your fruits while not all bad, are insipiring hate around the world intolerance, terrorism, killing apostates.

Keep on typing & typing & typing against Islam, It’s not the religion of peace for you but is 4 me. I’ll believe in Islam till the bitter end. You don’t wanna believe in, as if that’s okay, so i’m not forcing u. you r not seeing any logic in Islam, I’m not seeing any logic in Christianity & in your additional beliefs . Right!

(Al-Qur’an surah 109) 1. Say : O ye that reject Faith! 2. I worship not that which ye worship, 3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. 4. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship, 5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship. 6. To you be your Way, and to me mine. bye.

It isn’t a peaceful religion at all sorry! if a child who is polytheist who dosen’t know better but grew up a hindu dies only knowing what she was taught then she is INNOCENT and wont burn in hellfire forever sorry. Your religion is FALSE if it teaches this. I say again:

If Allah is all loving and all merciful and all just then he would not be allah if he did something like that as that polytheist child was a good person, was kind, just and did many good deeds. Being a Polytheist dosent make you a bad person sorry cause you dont know any better. Hell fire is reserved for EVIL people. Rapists, Murderers, Peadophiles ( like Muhammad.) , and even they have a chance of forgiveness. NOT getting aspects of religion wrong or their concept of GOd wrong especially when this was because they dont know better.

So your Qu ran allah is false and your Prophet is false because they fail the test of logic and contradiction test set out by the Qu’ ran itself!

Its fine that you want to have blind faith but seeing as you are agreeing to support some seriously wrong things you should check your heart. islam has peaceful apsects for sure that are beautiful but hidden amongst them are plenty of surahs promoting fear to keep you in its clutches and surahs that incite violence that suicide bombers , terrorists are using. And most musilm people support them! Because you feel its self defense to the west who have done many wrongs too.

Jesus said: But I say to you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which spitefully use you, and persecute you. (Matthew 5:44)

Qu’ran says kill them that hate you, deceive them that hate you, Ignore them that hate you, condemn them that hate you, they will burn in hell

I believe Allah is just & wise He will never burn the innocent ones. He guides them, whether they are child or someone else. My friend is of 13, was an Atheist till last month but now is a Muslim. Quran says shirk itself is a biggest sin according to Islamic concept, Allah says ,” saying He has a son is just like to abuse Him”. If you r not a killer or robber or rapist & i say you are, i’d b a sinner because if i’d bring a false charges on u. Although u have no power u r just a human being yet u ‘d not like to hear it. While Allah is Mighty, So Allah is alone but people r associating partners with Him it’s the biggest sin. Allah alone helps everyone & people assume that no He not. Here polytheist becomes unjust & becomes a sinner.

Muhammad’s wars and raids not only fed his coffers, they also swelled his harem. Safiyya, a beautiful girl of seventeen years, was the wife of the chief of a Jewish clan inhabiting Khaibar. Muhammad’s custom was to make surprise attacks. Khaibar was invaded in the same fashion. Anas narrates [Sahih Muslim 4438]: “We encountered the people at sunrise when they had come out with their axes…..” In any case, many people were butchered, and many others were taken prisoners. “We took Khaibar by force, and there were gathered the prisoners of war,” according to Anas. Safiyya, the daughter of Huyayy b. Akhtab, the chief of the Quraiza and al-Nazir was one of them. Her husband, Kinana, was put to a cruel death (Sahih Muslim 3325). … Anas adds that people “praised her in the presence of Allah’s messenger and said: ’We have not seen the like of her among the captives of war’” (SM: 3329). Muhammad…even took her to his bed the same night her husband was killed, in violation of his own command, which enjoined the believers to wait until the beginning of the next menstrual cycle in their captive women. Kinana (Safiyya’s husband) was tortured in order to make him reveal his hidden treasure. “Torture him until you extract what he has,” Muhammad ordered al-Zubayr b. al-Awwam. The latter “kindled a fire with flint and steel on his chest until he was nearly dead. Then the apostle delivered him to Muhammad b. Maslama and he struck off his head” (Sirat Rasul Allah p 515). … When the prophet was passing the night with Safiyya in a tent, Abu Ayyub took it upon himself to guard him. In the morning, Muhammad saw him and asked him what he was doing there. He replied: “I was afraid for you with this woman for you have killed her father, her husband, and her people…” (Sirat Rasul Allah p517)

Sounds like a cruel person to me ,s ounds more like he is interested in the treasure then being merciful and loving.

One more last & final thing; your words; “say that people will get a chance to repent on judgement day” Re: Listen brother! By ” After repenting” i doesn’t mean “on judgement day people’d given a chance to ask Allah 4 forgiveness. This chance is given to the people ONLY IN THIS LIFE. UNDERSTAND! I mean ” they will burn in Hell-fire”by burning in Hell-fire they would to pay 4 their evil deeds.bye.

What? So explain to me how a innocent child who dies young has had a chance? of course not! she cant make that choice to become a monotheist , so surely allah makes judgement when they die? or they go to hell till judgement day? this does not sound like merciful wise allah to me sorry.

@Brother John Your words “What? So explain to me how a innocent child who dies young has had a chance? of course not! she cant make that choice to become a monotheist , so surely allah makes judgement when they die? or they go to hell till judgement day? this does not sound like merciful wise Allah to me sorry.” Re; A child if is an Polytheist, ‘ll not be forgiven & have to burn in fire forever. As for monotheist innocent child’b not have burn in hell-fire. Monotheist rebellious man’d burn till he pay 4 all all his bad deeds, & after paying 4 his deeds he ‘ll enter into jannah, However if Allah want to forgive the sins of monotheist he can; Surely Allah does not forgive that anything should be associated with Him, and forgives what is besides that to whomsoever He pleases; and whoever associates anything with Allah, he devises indeed a great sin. (Surah Nisaa, verse 48)1, 2 Notice Allah says he “forgives what is besides that”–that means any sin is potentially forgivable except shirk. Subhanallah!

Oh i forgot one thing. Go & look at history how happy was Ayesha with prophet﻿ (PBUH), He (PBUH) was very﻿ kind, sympathy, loving﻿ & caring with Aisha (R.A) , He (PBUH) proved an examplary husband. in addition, in america and the 21st century there is this extended period of childhood. In the past, people were marrying and supporting families at the age of 10-12.. some children reach the age﻿ of puberty 8-10. He(PBUH) never had sex unless she reached puberty.It was normal for the people in the past during those days 4 elderly man to marry a youngest girl…EVEN IN ENGLAND, ONLY IN 1275, THE AGE OF MARRIAGE 4 GIRL WAS PUT AT 12 YEARS OLD. SEARCH 4 “ENCYCLOPEDIA OF CHILDREN & CHILDHOOD IN HISTORY & SOCIETY”. However the discussion is going so long. I’m tired. I don’t wanna argue more. It seems u non-Muslims will never b satisfied bye.

So the development of culture and society has brought us to the 21st century where we know of course that it is WRONG to have sexual relations with girls just into puberty. that is peadophilism. So your basically saying the developement of modern culture is wiser and more developed then the all seeing wisdom of allah! surely allah would know that such a thing is unsuitable and if Muhammad had gods wisdom he would know such a thing too. Also if thats true regarding the practices of the english in 1275 they never claimed they were gods apostle or to be divinely inspired!

a lot of muslims actually say this never happend and that she was much older. and some historians disagree with the major hadiths on this. As they realize it is wrong for gods apostle to have intercourse with a 9 year old! If the many hadiths are true and he did go in unto her at 9 years of age and also had sex with captured jewish slaves women of men he murdered in cold blood then his wisdom and character is suspect and if it is suspect then the qu ran is suspect.

If a person is die as a polytheist he’ll never ever b entered into jannah. 1. Allah forgives everything sin except shirk.No forgiveness for the one who commits shirk:

“Surely, Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him (in worship), but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He wills; and whoever sets up partners with Allah in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin.” [An-Nisa 4:48]

2. A Mushrik (Polytheist) will be banned from entering Jannah (Paradise) and he shall live in Hell-fire forever:

“…Verily, whoever sets up partners with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise to him and Hell-Fire shall be his abode, and for the wrongdoers there are no helpers.” [Al-Maidah 5:72)

And: “And it has been revealed to you (O Muhammad) as it was to those before you: “If you join others in worship with Allah, (then) surely your deeds will be in vain, and you will certainly be amongst the losers.” [Az-Zumar 39:65]

do u have proof to certify that any body worshipps other than allah will go to hell do u think mother Theresa , mahatma Gandhi, BR ambedkar and all other great personalties from different religion who did well to mankind in up lifting peace will end up in hell because they didn’t believe in allah ???????????

{O You who believe! Enter absolutely into peace. Do not follow in the footsteps of Satan. He is an outright enemy to you.} (Al-Baqarah 2: 208) The verse u quoted is the verse (2:190-191) is talking about the killing in battle field during war.well, i assume if someone attacked you with a gun you’ll attack him with a mop won’t you ?﻿ that’d look peaceful ! However the discussion is going so long. I’m tired. I don’t wanna argue more. It seems u non-Muslims will never b satisfied bye.

people often misquote the Quran. An example is when they quote the following verse out of context: And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [2:191] However, they do not quote the verse in its entirety and without establishing the facts surrounding these verses. And fight in the Way of Allâh those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allâh likes not the transgressors.And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [Trials, Persecution] is worse than killing. And fight not with them at Al-Masjid-al-Harâm (the sanctuary at Makkah),[unless they (first) fight you there. But if they attack you, then kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers.[2:190-191].

We never killed innocent nonMuslims okay. How to deal with nonMuslims; ” If a man kills an innocent human being its as if he kills the whole of humanity.(Quran) Qur’an says: ” Do not argue with the people of the Book, unless it is in the politest manner.”(29:46) Islam teaches us that we should deal even with our enemies with justice and fairness. Allah says in the Qur’an in the beginning of the same Surat Al-Ma’dah: [O you who believe! Stand out firmly for Allah as witnesses to fair dealings and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just, that is next to piety. Fear Allah, indeed Allah is well-acquainted with all that you do.] (Al-Ma’dah 5 :8)

In another place in the Qur’an, Allah Almighty says:

[Allah forbids you not with regard to those who fight you not for your faith, nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them. For Allah loves those who are just. Allah only forbids you with regard to those who fight you for your faith, and drive you out of your homes and support others in driving you out, from turning to them for protection (or taking them as wali). Those who seek their protection they are indeed wrong- doers.] (Al-Mumtahinah 60: 8-9)

First read your book then comment on others please! The cost of apostasy: AS PER CHRISTIANITY & JUDAISM It is stated in the Old Testament of the Bible, which is the authority for both the Jews and the Christians: And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: [Book of Leviticus 24:16]

First read your book then commen on other please! The cost of apostasy: AS PER CHRISTIANITY & JUDAISM It is stated in the Old Testament of the Bible, which is the authority for both the Jews and the Christians: And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: [Book of Leviticus 24:16]

WRONG!!! As Christians we believe Jesus got rid of the old mosaic law of the old testament and replaced it with only 2 laws love god and love others, john 13:34, there were many such laws in the old testament such as disrespect to parents got you stoned. thats is why as chistians we believe that Jesus came to give us the new law of love, that is also why the Jews of his time hated him, But you are diverting the question and trying to turn focus away from this difficult question i have posed to you. Right now in islamic Law Apostasy means death. In christianity today and I believe Judaism today you do not get condemned to death for apostasy. So your answer is irrelevant and you have no good answer for your so called religion of tolerance and peace.

Thousands of time we Muslims Refuted such allegations with scholarly manner with much more decent way than u deserve, based on deep research but Ghost of the Kicks do not listen to the talks (LOL)… so I approached u with your own mother tongue, the language and approach that u understand…Instead of refuting ur false and ridiculous allegations against Islam,,, I gave u a homework to answer some questions to yourself…it is true we should treat the person the way they want them to be treated…now dnt tell me that u have done any research on Islam or Quran that will be silly thing to claim.. coz on your other article u quoted so many verses from Quran and none of the references were correct and misquoted… Maybe copy & paste from other hatemongers who hold the same qualification like u??…. I just dnt understand one thing how short headed people like u think about challenging Islam which is spread every part of the world? among every 4 human being lives on earth 1 is Muslim..and u coming from a superstitious background trying to educate people about the truth of Islam? whats ur qualification? No scholars worth the name has been able to criticize Islam with their knowledge…but a funky monkey joker from India trying to do so..to me it is looking like a tiny little dirty creature trying to move the Skylight monument of Islam…. LOL.LOL.. LOL what could be funnier than this….

Agniveer I have been reading your writings for quite few days.. and I have been seeing u barking like a street dog.. but only barking and when the challenge comes u r withdrawing ur tail and running away.. ur hate against Islam, Muslims, Quran, Mohammed(PBH), Allah and now Zakir naik is showing that u r a hatemonger filthy animal that wants to live in dirt. Now as u started someone has to respond.. so I will try to do that job..and this is not only for u but for all those dick headed anti-Islam hindus…ponit to point…

you always demand that u stand for equality, humanity and u demand that ur Hinduism promotes all these things.. now lets see…

1). u have problems with Islamic polygamy– have u heard about Bahu-Vivah? how many a man could marry under that custom? no limit!, who promoted? now u will say that custom does not exist anymore… yes coz british had to fight a lot against ur radical hindu leader for a long time to stop that.

2) u have problem with prophet Mohammed’s Marriage to Aisha coz she was young (11 year when married)—- have u heard about Bal-Vivah- what is that? marring a girl without any age limit,, man could be 90 years old when the girl could be 4 years or 5 years… who promoted? at least Islam gives minimum age that is the age of puberty… but ur ancestors married a girl and many girl at a time who were merely 4 or 5 years old and they had sex with that baby girl and from that people like u Agniveer were born.. u r result of that filthy dirty social custom..so smell ur own shit first…

3) U have problem that islam dont let the woman to expose their body and dnt allow them to go out so often.. in your opinion thats anti-woman approach– have u heard about Sati-Daha Pratha? who brought it? what is that? burning the widow with her dead husband? first u marry off a young girl with a 90 year old man who is in his death bed and burn her after the man dies…if british would not stop it u would be the one who will put ur won mother, or sister to burn with their dead husband.. but now that same filthy street dog is talking about female rights…

4) u claim to believe in humanity— who embraced the casteism in india? what is casteism? those who in the early age had a lower level of profession they are lower level of human.. they are untouchable, cant enter into temple, cant drink from same tap, cant sit with higher caste, cant be accepted in marriage…. that same shitty monkey is talking about humanity…

5) u say islam promotes violace: all the mythology that u talk about are regarding war… all of ur gods did war to establish their power…worship me or die.. Gita is the manual for how to win a war against own cousins…

5) u say Mohammed( PHB) was lustful: that shows ur ignorant that ur knowledge is based on hearsay.. u hear such story from ur co-anti-muslim hatemongers and u advertise that.. but u should atleast know about ur lord krishna— stealing the cloths of the women while bathing and watching them nude from behind a tree? having incestuous relationship with his own aunty (Maami)… and he is ur lord….

Now we have U agniveer… who can only spread the dirt of his won mind which is full of apeshit and smelling so bad.. and can do that only on internet… why dont u go ahead and do a public debate with zarik naik? u cant.. because dog that barks dont bite…ur So called Guru Sri Sri Ravisankar once made a mistake, writing a book on Islam and in front of all the people he pleaded for surrender and never will face zakir anymore… I simply want to tell u all empty Pots that its better for u that u dnt challenge the excellence of Islam or less u would look like dumb…u always look like.. but u people are shameless… hope this writing of mine will leave u with some unanswered question which u will try hunt you always and they are — how old was ur great great great great grand mother when she got married? how many wives ur great great great great grand father had? 40 or 50? an absolute Ganbang.. and u r the production of that ganbang… Find Out!!!

Having read the articles presented in this website, I find that this website is just a publicity stunt in name of the various religions. Mr Agniveer has almost refuted all the religions and their scriptures just to put forth his views. His use of absurd words and maligning the name of a scholar like Dr. Zakir is nothing but a mere show of the level of frustration in the so called intellectual society and few intellectuals who are maintaining this website. Any way the ‘Truth shall Triumph’ and we muslims believe Islam is the ultimate truth. The world has already started to acknowledge that. There are more reverts to Islam from the West than those in Asia. Articles here must be banned as these are spread hatred against Islam. Being absolutely intelligent this guy has talked about Osama and his accomplices however his or his vedic religion has stopped him from telling out the history of Osama (once best friend of America). dude grow up…..we acknowledge ur frustration. May Allah help you in understanding Islam from the core of the heart. I request my muslim borthers and siters to ignore such website and keep doing their good work of Dawah elsewhere and waste their time here.

“how are you sure your right?” Re: Just like you are sure. If i shouldn’t sure about Islam then you shouldn’t too. Are you not sure about Christianity? Really? Then Y do u pretend yourself to b a Christian? I’m sincere with my religion but u r not a true Christian. Every person whether he is a Hindu or a Christian or anything else considers himself true. I believe in Qur’an not in Bible, vedas etc. If you say i’m intolerant to your faith then you u r also. However I’m not intolerant to others faith, I simply consider they r following wrong path just like they consider that i’m not following true path. I never imposed even a single statement of mine on anyone.

Surah 109. 1. Say : O ye that reject Faith 6. To you be your Way, and to me mine.

“And you didn’t answer my question yet of what sect you are in?” Re; I’m in Islamism only following Qur’an & Authentic Hadiths. , not in sunnism, wahabism, deobundism etc.etc. I believe Qur’an is true, without any concoction.

“So that innocent baby who was born to a shia family will go to hell? that lovely innocent baby from a christian family will go to hell? and a innocent child from a hindu family will go to hell?”. Re: According to the Islamic concept ‘everyone born as a Muslim, parents make him/her nonMuslim. Furthermore, according to Qur’an a person ‘ll must b entered into paradise if he believe that God is one (one means only one) no matter with which sect he/she belong to & no matter how much of rebellion he/she is, he/she’ll enter into paradise BUT AFTER REPENTING. So in the end after repenting an monotheist’d must b enter into paradise. I’m taking about this sect (i.e Monotheist).

“Do you really believe in your heart that a good person will sent to hell fire if they are not in the one sect??”. Re: Good person in hell? Nah. Allah’d give him hidayah. That’s reason 4 Islam is the fastest growing religion.

“So the only person you should feel sad for here is yourself!” Re: Oh really? Nah. Y? see, according to your faith a pious person’ll must b entered into paradise no matter with which sect he/she belong to, so i know well about myself whether i’m good or bad, & I’m sure i shouldn’t feel sad or for myself.

“And you have no proof. saying Mohammed said etc is not proof! The founder of the Mormons also said he got visited by angels who gave him the final word for mankind. how are you sure your right?? we can only have faith! I dont have proof jesus is gods son but i believe it by faith. we have no proof we can only ask God for discernment.” Re: Yes. I’ve proof, Qur’an. The belief of any religious person is based on his/her religious book. Atheist ones have no religious book. If u say reference from religious book isn’t proof, then u r thinking like an atheist only that point. But u r assuming things , like one should b good only in order to get paradise, whether he/she is polytheist or monotheist, & one can learn from all religions – While these things r not mentioned in any religious book, & when u r a religious person, u r making your own sect.

In the end no one is forcing u, u’ll remember my words on the day of Qayamah!

well I am much happier with qu’ran stating as you say that people wil lget a chance to repent on judgement day. however this is the first i heard of it so if you could provide references to the Quranic surahs i would be much obliged! As it says quite clearly all but one sect will go to hell. and dosent say if they repent however even if they are not like me and my companions then they will be spared. If you can provide references then i am alot happier about islam preaching the truth. however be careful, cause if you say you follow qu ran and authentic hadiths and you emulate muhammad and his companions then you will marry 12 or 13 times inslave your enemies marry their wives as young as 6, slay idolaters(hindus, christians, etc) wherever you find them (surah 9:5), and if one of your fellow muslims commits apostasy or leaves islam the penalty is death? And if you take over a land all relics and places of worship i na country such as egypt right now, you must destroy all monuments and the country’s heritage..

So by saying that you agree to all the above to condemn to death one of your brothers and sisters if they leave islam and to kill hindus wherever you find them since you consider them idolaters? the only way to get to heaven is to be as muhammad and his companions were…they would do all these things. I would like you to answer this to all hindus on this site.

If a person is die as a polytheist he’ll never ever b entered into jannah. 1. Allah forgives everything sin except shirk.No forgiveness for the one who commits shirk:

“Surely, Allah forgives not that partners should be set up with Him (in worship), but He forgives except that (anything else) to whom He wills; and whoever sets up partners with Allah in worship, he has indeed invented a tremendous sin.” [An-Nisa 4:48]

2. A Mushrik (Polytheist) will be banned from entering Jannah (Paradise) and he shall live in Hell-fire forever:

“…Verily, whoever sets up partners with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise to him and Hell-Fire shall be his abode, and for the wrongdoers there are no helpers.” [Al-Maidah 5:72)

And: “And it has been revealed to you (O Muhammad) as it was to those before you: “If you join others in worship with Allah, (then) surely your deeds will be in vain, and you will certainly be amongst the losers.” [Az-Zumar 39:65] 6.

Agniveer. From the name itself, an odour of Hell fire is coming. Its looking that you are very much against to islam. Any religion doesn’t speak to comment or to harm other religion. First you follow your religion then study islam and dare to speak truth. Simply copy pasting from anti-islamic websites is just cowardism. If you are good, you will have good or else not. Finally I will pray allah to show you hidayat.

I, as a hindu,want to say only one thing,that every religion is equal. But, if any person like this zakir naik would say that islam is better, then again as a hindu, I will say that, Iwill not tolerate any such bastard. and, i will assume that this person should be kicked out of Bharat immediately.

Your Words; “if we came to the judgement day or whatever day it will be and you were wrong and jesus is gods son do you think god will send you to hellfire if you led a pious life served your fellow man, loved God? NO YOU WILL NOT…..”.

You have no any reference. You just have assumed it. Without sounding rude i wanna tell u something brother! Do u know y do people differ or Y there r so many sects? Because when people start to assume anything & then start believing in it, finally they start dividing into sects.

Your words; “Your holy book and the bible both mention many times how god/allah is all wise, all merciful, all just, all loving”.

Yeah! No doubt. But it’s not the proof of your statements.

Your words; “I dont need to give you any specific reference for this”.

I’ll give from sahih-al-Bukhari; Allah’s apostle said that there would b 72 sects but only one’ll enter into jannah.

All this is difficult to digest, I can’t accept your arguments. Sorry 🙂 I just sad for u , May Allah guide u. Amen!

So sister you are basically admitting that even if I didn’t have a specific reference you believe a just person should be sent to hell! then a 6 year old has more wisdom then Allah! which we know is of course not true. Do you really believe in your heart that a good person will sent to hell fire if they are not in the one sect?? If allah did that he would not be allah! even a child could tell you that. you cannot say allah is all merciful and just and then say he will send good and bad people to hell! allah gave you a mind to use to think about these things. Whats the point of giving you a brain if you cant use some simple logic to define your beliefs? So the only person you should feel sad for here is yourself!

And you didn’t answer my question yet of what sect you are in?? are you also going to hell??How do you know in what sect you are in?

And you have no proof. saying Mohammed said etc is not proof! The founder of the Mormons also said he got visited by angels who gave him the final word for mankind. how are you sure your right?? we can only have faith! I dont have proof jesus is gods son but i beleive it by faith. we have no proof we can only ask God for discernment.

Im not asking you to start believing something else, im asking you only to follow your own Qu’ran which says that allah is merciful and just. so he cant be just and send innocent people to hell. sorry! So that innocent baby who was born to a shia family will go to hell? that lovely innocent baby from a christian family will go to hell? and a innocent child from a hindu family will go to hell? Please answer for all in this forum to see!

I dont need to give you any specific reference for this sister, Your holy book and the bible both mention many times how god/allah is all wise, all merciful, all just, all loving, , so even a small child could tell you that for God/Allah to send a righteous(none is perfect) person to hell for techincal reasons of not following the one sect(are you even that sect sister Maria?) would be a contradiction of all the above!!! If he did those things he would not be God!

well for instance the Jehovah’s witnesses can put most of us to shame by their energy and dedication in preaching the gospel even though they believe in some strange things like they are part of last 7000 special people who will go to heaven etc…i can still learn somethings from them. I have many Musilm friends and know many others too, and most of them and most of my christian friends dont go out teach God to people as they should!

You are also belittling kindness etc etc…it can take a lifetime to learn how to treat others with peace and respect, to have self control, to be loving and kind…even if you just learnt some of these things and nothing else it would be a great lesson for you!

@maria, these are deaf peoples, commenting here is waste of time if u think that they will understand anything. just throwing one or two lines is good. they can check in any arabic dictionary what is the meaning of AWLIA. we waste so much over here and the result is that agnicoward delete our comments after some days. so it is total waste of time because later no person can read ur comment and agnicoward wil manufacture this debate in such a way that u will look defeated and un-answerable person over here.

you r spreading hates here… people r fighting here to prove their words and blaming each other. this discussion will never end and we keep on blaming each other’s religion and thoughts. and ultimately there is no result except the wrong concept about each other…

I hate this poisonous snake, he is an evil to society. He must be killed for sedation and spreading hatred and non-sense on Islam’s name. He and his followers are no good to human race and must be nuked.

greetings and peace to all my muslim and hindu brothers and sisters..been following this feed with great interest!

To sister Maria: We shouldn’t hate anyone including of course Dr Naik, however he has been very outspoken against many other religions without representing them fully in their own beautiful unique ways. I strongly agree with Sachin above when he says that Zakir Naik is an entertainer…alot of the people sitting in his lectures are coming to be entertained by his intelligent strong speaking skills and personality. But personality doesn’t disprove holy books that have been around much longer then the Qu’ran. No matter what religion one follows if it makes you follow a path of true righteousness and of love and worshipping god then it is a path to paradise. God has revealed truth to different people around the world he hasnt revealed truth to amercians to force on other people or truth in arabic so the rest of the world must become muslim to go to heaven. The Dalai Lama is a wonderful man who goes around preaching wisdom aun sun kyii from burma is a buddist as well and your telling me she will burn in hell because she hasn’t converted(yet) to the way of one (of 72) sects? that is wrong. God isnt a god of fear if you feel very afraid then your not loving god with purity in your heart, your loving him because your afraid of hell fire… within the religion of christianity, of which i am to a lesser extent a member, there was a man called Martin Luther who transformed his way of thinking from the catholic teaching of if you dont say 100’s of hail mary’s and whip yourself and put a coin in the coffer to save loved ones from purgatory then you would go to hell for your sins. I quote from the bible(one of many beautiful religious books!) For GOD has not given us the spirit of fear but of power and of love and of a sound mind (KJV 2 Timothy 1:7) and perfect love casteth out all fear! and: There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. (NIV 1 John 4 :18) or (KJV There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

You are right there is only one truth but not only one way as you propose…the truth i believe is that their is only one God, and he is love and i believe goodness is truth and respect and tolerance and lack of fear, so based on these and many other godly qualities I believe that their many ways to achieve godliness, for instance if hindus slaughter animals in a godly way and Muslims do in a godly way then no one can say my way is the only way to do it…it is possible to make mistakes and to learn things from each other. So if only one group have all the answers they dont need to learn from anyone else and work together in unity with anyone else. i am a christian and believe that their is power in christ but i also belive I can learn so much from someone like the dalai lama, or someone like buddha or someone like sundar singh or someone like zakir Naik…We were meant to honour god by loving each other and learning from each other!

i agree kindness , goodness,love , virtue, not to do evil deeds & to serve humanity are the things which can b learned by any person belonging to any category. But how can we learn the concept of God from all major religious scriptures, when there are too many contradictions in the concept of God between all the religious scriptures. I think it’s not possible. I gave u mine for not if that’s okay.

If one say one can follow all religions than i think there r two possibilities; 1- Either he/she has lack of knowledge that what all the religious scriptures really say. 2- Or he/she is aware of the contradictions but is hypocrite.

If u mean that from all religions u r choosing good things like kindness , virtue, love, to serve humanity etc. etc. Then yes u r right. But if u mean u r accepting all Gods then i think u r wrong because truth is only one.

Firstly I didn’t say to follow all religions to a tee..I meant learn some things from each religion, secondly, the concept of God in a lot of major religions is the same from Zoroastrianism to Judaism.. God is one, he is the creator of all things he is all powerful ,none can comprehend him etc all generally teach us the concept of god in wonderful ways! even some people call him the universe etc which is also in a way what god is he is everything! there are not so many contradictions as you say! In your second post you said etheir Jesus is god;s son or he is just a prophet both cannot be true yes, but the point is if we came to the judgement day or whatever day it will be and you were wrong and jesus is gods son do you think god will send you to hellfire if you led a pious life served your fellow man, loved God? NO YOU WILL NOT!!!! And if i face God and i beleived he sent his son but he was only a mighty messenger of allah then God will send me to fire of hell torment even though i loved god and loved my fellow man and did good? NO HE WILL NOT!!! if he did he would not be the all merciful the all loving God the all wise God the all just Allah you say he is in the Qu’ran! And according to you he will have mercy on bad people, negative selfish people even atheists because they ddnt have the chance to know properly there is only one God and Muhammad is his prophet. if he did these things you describe he cannot be the Allah you profess!!! God is LOVE love is his very essence not only one of 72 sects of Muslims will go to heaven. dont follow a book that says that! God and his wisdom and his love are above you and your religion and all religions…your putting your religion above Gods love.

you said: ”But if u mean u r accepting all Gods then i think u r wrong because truth is only one.”

Your missing the point sister: some religions might not belive in one god but the truth is your intent on arguing with people who already believe in one God but arguing they must belive in your version of this one god. Even fo those who might believe in some warped theories of God, most important is for them to be humane loving people and if they are like in the example of buddists then god will bless them and teach them what they are lacking,

Brother your words; “if we came to the judgement day or whatever day it will be and you were wrong and jesus is gods son do you think god will send you to hellfire if you led a pious life served your fellow man, loved God? NO YOU WILL NOT!!!! And if i face God and i believed he sent his son but he was only a mighty messenger of Allah then God will send me to fire of hell torment even though i loved god and loved my fellow man and did good? NO HE WILL NOT”.

How do u know? Does Bible say so?Reference?

Your words; “Firstly I didn’t say to follow all religions to a tee..I meant learn some things from each religion”.

Your words; “the concept of God in a lot of major religions is the same from Zoroastrianism to Judaism.. God is one”.

God is one right, but also multiples according to a lot of major religious people. How? see, Hindus worship cows, even some worship rats, god is one but everything in universe is God. There r a lot of things in universe.

“We make no difference between one and another of them” This is a lie. Muslims recite only the name of Muhammad in their Shahada. They do not recite the names of Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, Moses and Jesus in shahada. Can one become a muslim by saying “La ilaha il allah musa rasoolallah”? or for that matter by saying “La ilaha il allah ibrahim rasoolallah”

Q.What we say in shahada? A. we say, “I bear witness that there’s no God but Allah & Prophet Muhammad Is the last & final messenger & slave of Allah”.

Q. Why we do not recite the names of Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, Moses and Jesus in shahada.? What is the difference between Muhammad & Abraham, Ismail, Isaac were Jacob?

A. Prohet Muhammad was the last & final messenger of Allah. Furthermore now we r following the revelation descended on Prophet Muhammad.

When Qur’an say there’s no difference between all prophet here Allah means we should respect all at the same level. This doesn’t mean that we should necessary recite their names in shahada. They all are respectable. Understand ?

When Allah says “We make no difference between one and another of them, and we bow to God” Here Allah means they all are respectable, We can never say that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) was greater than others.

Weather we recite their names in shahada or not it makes no difference. All other Prophets can be remained respectable without reciting their names in shahada. The thing which is required is accepting all were sent by Allah. If someone accept that Muhammad (PBUH) is the messenger but others are not , it means he/she is making difference between them.

While taking shahada we accept that prophet muhammad is the “Messenger” of Allah. So here we Muslims r accepting the Muhammad (PBUH) was the “Messenger” in other words we r accepting He (PBUH) received some “Message”, & that “Message” is “Qur’an”. Qur’an says ”

“Say : ‘We believe in God and the revelation given to us and to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord. We make no difference between one and another of them, and we bow to God.’ ” Chapter 2, Verse136,

So while taking shahada in other words we Muslims r accepting everything written in Noble Qur’an.

But you do say that Muhammad is the last and final messenger and only his teachings are worthy of emulation, and the revelations that dawned on earlier messengers are to be discarded.

The point is you can recite Muhammad’s name in the shahadah but not the other’s. Why? Were they not the founding fathers of the faith? Why this obsession with the supposedly final and last messenger? BTW, who is Imam Mahdi then? Will he not be final and last messenger in Islamic theology?

The point is not whether Muhammad received any message or not, the point is why ignore the prophets who laid the foundation stones of Islam. Why this preferential treatment to Muhammad? Are they any less deserving?

First try to understand the concepts yourself properly then go on to convince others, lady.

”The point is you can recite Muhammad’s name in the shahadah but not the other’s. y?” you didn’t properly read what i wrote. Now pay attention, We can’t recite the whole Qur’an while taking the shahada. We accept Muhammad is the Messenger in other words we accept He(PBUH) was given some message by Allah in other words we accept that Message (i.e Qur’an).So while taking shahada we accept everything written in Qur’an. Qur’an says Allah sent at least 1 million & 24 thousand prophets/ messengers, so WE CANT RECITE THE WHOLE QUR’AN IN SHAHADA, PAY ATTENTION. Allah makes the shahada so simple.

u brought another issue,the revelations given to the other Prophets was meant 4 the people of that time. Therefore now they r corrupted. u r saying that we should also follow Torah (revealed on Moses) & Injeel (revealed on jesus) . We cant follow. Y? Because they got corrupted.

At one time we can’t follow all religions, because all religions contradicts each other. TRUTH IS ONLY ONE.

Hope u would not understand. To understand something one must have sense , knowledge & wisdom.

@Maria Muntaha “O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors; they are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust. (The Noble Quran, 5:51)”

The correct translation of the verse in Surat Al-Ma’idah is: [O you who believe! Do not take Jews and Christians as your patrons. They are patrons of their own people. He among you who will turn to them for patronage is one of them. Verily Allah guides not a people unjust.] (Al-Ma’dah 5: 51)

It is obvious that Jews patronize the Jews and Christians patronize the Christians, so why not Muslims patronize Muslims and support their own people. This verse is not telling us to be against Jews or Christians, but it is telling us that we should take care of our own people and we must support each other.

In his Tafsir, (Qur’an exegesis) Imam Ibn Kathir has mentioned that some scholars say that this verse (i.e. the one you referred to) was revealed after the Battle of Uhud when Muslims had a set back. At that time, a Muslim from Madinah said, “I am going to live with Jews so I shall be safe in case another attack comes on Madinah.” And another person said, “I am going to live with Christians so I shall be safe in case another attack comes on Madinah.” So Allah revealed this verse reminding the believers that they should not seek the protection from others, but should protect each other. (See Ibn Kathir, Al-Tafsir, vol. 2, p. 68)

Muslims are allowed to have non-Muslims as friends as long as they keep their own faith and commitment to Islam pure and strong. It is the duty of Muslims to patronize Muslims. They should not patronize any one who is against their faith or who fights their faith.

Qur’an also tells Muslims that they should never patronize the non-Muslims against other Muslims. However, if some Muslims do wrong to some non-Muslims, it is Muslims’ duty to help the non-Muslims and save them from oppression. The Prophet (PBUH) said that he himself will defend a Dhimmi living among Muslims to whom injustice is done by Muslims. But Islam also teaches that Muslims should not seek the patronage of non-Muslims against other Muslims. They should try to solve their problems among themselves.

@Maria, The arabic word used in Quran 5:51 is awliyāa which means friends or allies by no means it can be translated into patrons. Moreover, if verses of Quran shows messages as per reflection of what is happening on earth as inconsistent events , then it is nothing more than history or fiction. Whatever it is your faith, but this verse should also be taken in consideration how Allah commanded muslims to behave , Quran 9:29 Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled

@Maria Muntaha [lets keep the discussion on the contradictions between the verse 2:136 and 5:51] the translation that you have quoted equates the arabic word “awliyāa” to “patron” which is a total mis represent of the actual arabic meaning a “friend” or an “ally”, These are deliberate attempts by translators to convolute & hide the confusion in quran with more confusion as these “mild” word translation can be easily defended by futher concoctions( as you have verily tried to do, but could not..U gave your tranlation and there is go … started expalining from there on… )

Moreover, as a practising muslim you must believe that the Quran is Allah’s words/verbatim

so why is Allah saying that he does not guide the wrongdoers (l-ẓālimīna) and who is he referring to, the Muslims who take jews and christins as friends(or patrons 🙂 ) or the jews & christians themselves? and we very well know (after reading the Q’uran) who are those that are not guided by Allah and what awaits them 🙂

(did you see the conflict between 2:136 and 5:51 by now i am sure not..)

so much for Allah’s words.. (though it was compiled not by Muhammad to whom supposedly this verbatim passed through gabriel,after burning all the exixting manuscripts of quran before coming up with this final so called verbatim of Allah [by uthman long after muhammad was gone])

BTW how did Imam Ibn Khatir know when this particular verse was revealed when he was himself born ~600 years after the said battle,may be after all Allah did not speak only to one man..

Adios friend ,Islam a religion devoid of any Spritiuality and peace(contrary to the general notion 🙂 ), A god who divides/differentiates people(through his verbatim) based on their religion or scripture is not worthy of worship as an alimighty and UNIVERSAL creator and “PATRON” 🙂

(2:26) By it He misleads many, and many He guides thereby. And He misleads thereby ONLY those who are AL-FASIQUN (the rebellious,unjust to Allah, disobedient to Allâh).

In (2:26) Focus on the word **AL-FASIQUN (the rebellious,unjust to Allah, disobedient to Allâh,)** So Allah says He misleads **ONLY** those who r al-Fasuqun.

“(18:57)”Who is more unjust than the one who was reminded through the signs(verses) of his﻿ Lord, but he turned away from them, and forgot what his own hands sent ahead. Indeed We have put covers on their hearts that bar them from understanding it, and (We have created) deafness in their ears.”

verse (5:51) says he will not guide the **UNJUST**. So the unjust is the one **WHO REMINDS THROUGH HIS VERSES**.

So Allah doesn’t guide such people. Maybe u r one of them because now u r reminding the verses of Allah .

As for what awliyāa means , it can also be translated into patrons. You don’t know about it, showing your poor reading skills of Arabic.

So like a rational man first learn Arabic & understand what the Qur’anic verses really mean then dare to bring up any issue.

Most of the people have not complete knowledge & they bring false charges on Glorious Qur’an. Misconception exists because of ignorance and arrogance, fueled by the bias of mainstream media, & by anti-Islamic﻿ websites/books. May Allah guide you.

@ Maria Muntaha First you express your grave concern that i may be misguided by Allah by informing me about 2:26 & 18:57, then in the next comment you wish me good luck by saying “May Allah Guide you” if Allah himself has put a seal on my heart that what power does a insignificant individual like me has. I was of the thought , that you were giving me the “Real” meaning of the quranic verses(2:26,18:57), is it not so? Anyways you are out of your logical arsenal. so i think we should give it a rest here. May Allah guide you.

If you try to understand the verses without remain bias, ignorant and arrogant , unjust & your aim is to know the truth, then i can say May Allah guide u. & Allah will In-shaa- Allah!

Moreover i said “Maybe u r one of them” here i meant to say perhaps u r one of them. because Allah knows better than me whom should He guide. Another thing no matter one is FASIQUE or not I can pray 4 them that “Allah guide them.” Because Prophet (PBUH) also used to do so. Furthermore,when u read Qur’an u would know Allah doesn’t say He will necessary b misguided the rebillious ones, He is merciful, He can guide anyone He want. He knows better whom should He guide. May Allah guide u.

But how are so convinced that the earlier revelations got corrupted as we still have adherents of those revelations who vouch for their utility? Also, at the same time, how are you so sure that the Quran has not been corrupted? What about Khalifa Uthman’s burning of the different versions of Quran? What about mansukh and nasikh (Of the Koran’s 114 suras, only 43 are without abrogated or abrogating verses? Why does the Quran contradicts itself in many places? Most importantly, why did Allah let his earlier revelations get corrupted? Is Allah not all powerful? if he is so, then he should have been able to preserve his revelations at the least? Also, please enlighten us on the satanic verses.

“At one time we can’t follow all religions, because all religions contradicts each other. TRUTH IS ONLY ONE.”

Now, lets do a clinical of this statement of yours. If truth is one, why do they contradict each other when they supposedly come from the same Almighty? I think you need loads of sense and wisdom to crack this one.

Al-Taqiyah in action, @ Mariya, what you commented on 2:26 was so ridiculous which does not deserve any response , you said that 2:26 has word “kafaru” for those who are not “disbelieved” in Allah but those who rejected muhamamd as prophet. See definition of Kafir in your own words : Quran 2:98 “Whoever is an enemy to Allah and His angels and His messengers and Gabriel and Michael – then indeed, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers.” Moreover, which kind of rebellion that you are talking about, just those who Reject muhamamd are automatically termed as “REBELLION” what a shame for such a theology. As Allah of Quran does not guide them who rejected Muhammad or say for instance who were atheists or Agnostics , then Allah of Auran is nothing more than specially for Qureyish tribe for specific time of the history, & hence it should be rejected universally.

@Maria Muntaha by saying that i should not be “arrogant” (well ignorant doest not seem to fit here) if you mean that i should not use my Allah’s gifted brain to analyze any text claimed to be Allah’s verbatim, then in that case dear friend,i am sorry, it seems Allha has relally sealed my heart and mind with a lot of inquisiteness and reasoning… really sorry for that.. One more question; what is the criteria for getting guidance from Allah, as quran says he guides who he “WANTS” even if the audience is FASIQUE, what guides the “MOOD” of Allah to usher guidance on people like me..is it a particular day or some cosmic event. but what would make him “want” to guide me, if on the day of Qyamat Allah is in a bad “MOOD” and does not “WANT” to play by the book then ???? 🙁

“I was of the thought , that you were giving me the “Real” meaning of the quranic verses(2:26,18:57), is it not so?”

Yes brother, Actually i was giving u the real meaning of the Qur’anic verses. However i used the words ”may b u r also one of them” now i feel I shouldn’t use it, because by your comments it doesn’t appear that u r arrogant or any thing else. you have some misconceptions, so u brought up. I shouldn’t assume anything about any one, Allah knows better.

Another thing Abbu-jahal was the worst enemy of Islam but Prophet (pbuh) used to pray 4 him. Allah can guide anyone.

Your words; “if on the day of Qyamat Allah is in a bad “MOOD” and does not “WANT” to play by the book then ?”

Nah! Allah isn’t moody but is powerful & merciful as well. The one who’s powerful definitely he’ll do anything he want. The same thing is with Allah but He doesn’t wanna do injustice. He also guide the people among fasique ones , but Allah knows well among the fasique ones who r able & should b guided, & who r not.

If u say y Allah doesn’t guide all the people including the fasique ones? Brother! Then this question is begging 4 some more questions; Where’s the test ? Y r not v already in jannah? Y did Allah create Hell?

Allah is Merciful but also just therefore He created jannah & Hell. if one say ‘Allah is Merciful then y He doesn’t enter all people into paradise ?’ The answer is ‘because He is just’. As v know all people in this world r not same. What about the pious ones who have 2 do a lot of hard work to restrict themselves from the lust of their hearts. What about the rebellious ones ,doing killing ,robbing etc etc. So paradise is 4 those who able to deserve it.

@Maria Muntaha Now i see the logic in you…how come did i miss all this enlightenment…I think i am seeing the Allah’s will and justice now.. but one more question how does Allah choose who gets what test i mean to say who gets a difficult test and who gets an easy one.. for eg. some are born blind/disabled(difficult test for them) some are fully endowned and rich(easy test).. I just hope that you would not say Allah know’s best and break my heart and turn me away from the true path..

You did not answer my question still.. if there is only one life and the Allah decides certain unmeasurable factor to hand out a test , then isnt Allah “MOODY” or Sadist coz for the individual taking the test there is nothing that Allah has in that individuals favour or aginst him to set him for a easy or difficult test?

what about the ones who are aborted or die before they see the light of this world.. what kind of test do they have..as they were not able to make a choice..to fare well in the test

when would i see a Muslim who can debate without quoting Quran itself to Defend the theology of Quran and when there is no further explanation , come up and say Allah know’s best..

friend.. this is my last response to you .. i dont want to waste any more time for either of us..

best of luck; a leaving advice(though the choice is yours to take it, forgive me for giving it without you asking for it.)..; Question evething thing and do not settle until all you questions have been answered,( to the extent you dont have to say Allah know’s best)

Thanks 4 your advice not need to be apologized. Now I’ll comment on your question.

You asked: “How does Allah choose who gets what test i mean to say who gets a difficult test and who gets an easy one. for eg. some are born blind/disabled(difficult test for them) some are fully endowned and rich(easy test) ?” Re: The answer’s Allah knows best. Because no one can tell that the new born baby’d b poor or rich in future, Allah knows, so i can’t guess.

But u was not satisfied by my answer I think u wanna something more;

Q — If Allah is all just then Y some r born blind/disabled (difficult test for them) some are fully endowned and rich (easy test)?

A — What is the meaning of test (in verbal sense)? If All people would b same (no poverty, richness, etc. etc.) then it means there’s would b no distinction between them so how can they b tested? Simply there’d b no test. Allah wanna test therefore He Himself created distinction between people. The thing that “this life is a test 4 the life hereafter” is the most important concept in the “philosophy” of Islam. We are only here to be tested by Allah. This life is not our final abode and we are going to die and then be brought back on Judgment Day for examination and the be sent to the proper place according to our belief and our actions.

Q — The one who gets difficult test than others what’d he get in return?

(2)- Prophet (PBUH) said: “ The majority of the people’d b the poor in paradise. (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3241; Muslim, 2737). So the one who lead a severe life in this world would have more chances to get better life in paradise, in the life hereafter.

(3) This life is a temporary life, we can’t get everything in this world Allah says; “And indeed the Hereafter is better for you than the present (life of this world)(Qur’an 93:4)”

“what about the ones who are aborted or die before they see the light of this world” Re: For those there’d b no test. Test is 4 those who have to lead life in this world.

So no doubt Allah is just, But he wanna test us , Therefore He Himself created the distinction between us. In this world we cant get all things, in the life hereafter v’ll get everything. The real life is the life hereafter. The one who doesn’t get better life in this world he’d get better life in the life hereafter. Hope that’d help.

@ Maria Muntaha Thanks for such a detailed response, Here are the points that i would like you to consider as you dont seem to understand the questions being posed , all you responses have no substance but only copy paste which show you low reasoning power and hindered intellect(may be due to madrassa education).

a) you did not clarify the the contradiction between 2:136 and 5:51 , for your better understanding of the question refer.

b) i already asked you “ON WHAT BASIS” is the test handed out(instead of answering that you are quoting QURAN,to answer the logical fallacy of quran itself), if there are no basis then its Proved that ALLAH is MOODY ,unreliable and unjust in handing out tests.if there is no test for the children who die befor birth , then why were they even conceived and stay alive for 9 or more months?,besided Allah already know the results of the test as per “Loh -e -mehfooz” so it further proves that he just plain Unjust and Sadist.

IT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE to SAY “ALLAH KNOWS BEST” ,the tendency of WISH,WANT,DESIRE TO BE WORSHIPPPED(As allah orders in Quran),DESIRE TO BE FEARED(As allah orders in quran), are all human qualities and cannot apply to the one Almighty who has created this whole universe, for that Almighty humans are just 1 amoung his gazillion creations and any ALLAH who craves to be feared(Quran 2:150) and worshipped by one of his creation (humans) is truly no almighty,but an alter ego of a sick person.

N.B.I will continue this dialog only when you can answer the questions posed logically and not be taking quran itself as the basis of proving the quran is right, simple.. do not quote quran.(as i have my copy 🙂 ) If you have to resort to Allah knows best techniques, do not bother to respond

Your words; “if there is no test for the children who die before birth , then why were they even conceived and stay alive for 9 or more months?” Re: Allah has power, He is Mighty, He will do anything He want. You’ll not tell Him that what should he do & what shouldn’t. If babies were convinced by Allah to stay alive for 9 months , then what’s the problem with you?

Your Words: “Allah already know the results of the test as per “Loh -e -mehfooz”. Re: You mean to say if Allah knows everything then why Allah wanna test us right. Allah has knowledge, But have you? Nah! Allah knows everything but we don’t know anything. This life is the test 4 us not 4 God. You’ll not know anything unless you go through the examination, right. Furthermore, anyone who can do anything he do so Allah do, You can’t restrict Him okay.

I’ll argue more as not worth of it . To you be your way & to me mine. Bye.

@Maria Muntaha Now dont be so angry.Thats what i am trying to bring to the table that the Theology of ISLAM cannot answer the baisc questions posed by a rational mind and that you have to resort to strawman arguements like “Allah knows best” & “Allah is Alimighty and can do anything” Few more questions…regarding the Allah can do anything

a) can Allah Lie? b) can Allah create another Allah?

if Allah knows the results of the tests, then is he toying(for his entertainment) with humans to see how to suffer in his difficult tests and fail?

You chill I’m not angry. I’m a Muslimah & i’ll prove something by quoting Qur’an, but u don’t want so. Therefore to argue more will give no significant result perhaps, therefore i think we shouldn’t argue more.

Anyway now I come towards your questions. Your words: “Allah is Almighty and can do anything”. Re: You’re talking about “Allah” , so how does you come to know about Allah? By reading Qur’an. When does Allah says so that He can do anything? He doesn’t say so.

What Allah says in Qur’an is that; 1– “He can do “anything He want”. 2– “He over all things hath Power”.

He don’t wanna tell a lie (Qur’an: Allah is most truthfull) He don’t wanna create someone like himself (Qur’an: There is no one like unto Him)

Your words; “if Allah knows the results of the tests, then is he toying (for his entertainment) with humans to see how to suffer in his difficult tests and fail? Re: It’s Allah’s will that he created us, He can so He do, He Mighty powerful, it’s not necessary that He created us just 4 fun.

And I’m sure these’re not the answers of your Question like i said we shouldn’t argue more i can’t give all your answers i’m learning more & more. Another thing you said that may be I’m going to Madrassa, no I’m not, but i ‘ll join soon after my Fsc. result In- Shaa-Allah. joining a Madrssa is insignificant 4 u but is not for me right. Bye.

@Maria Muntaha, for a “thing” to be proved as fact, we cannot make the assumption of taking that “thing” itself as fact for proving that “thing” is a fact,its circular logic and does not stand for any validation or weight in a logical debate.

eg. Quran is the word of Allah Q :who said so ? A :Muhammad Muhammad is the final messenger of Allah Q : Who said so ? A : Quran.

so you see Quran and Muhammad form a circular logic each validating the other, so ther is no way to “PROVE” the correcteness of either,outside the said “circle”

I have no issues if you want to live in you fantasy world of hell and heaven and an Allah who is moody and unjust(if that comforts you), if he can (as per you) let a child suffer in the womb for 9 months then let it die (when he knows that he is gona die as per loh-e-mefooz) then there is no gaurantee that he is not just toying with you and he alreay knows that youare gonna fail and a hell fire is waiting to roast your skin ,so that he can put it back and then roast it again(as quran says), while he enjoys the show.

See ya.. frnd, living life in constant fear.. 🙂 of physical pain to come. that too after the death of physical body.

“Say ye: ‘We believe in God and the revelation given to us and to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) Prophets from their Lord. We make no difference between one and another of them, and we bow to God.’ ” Chapter 2, Verse 136

I have watched several time zakir naik but i m not satisfied with his words. he read so many books of different religion but he don’t no the actual meaning,

he is explaining the things in his style, in this word every human having different way to understand things. the same thing is with zakir naik he reads several things but he don’t no the mean he is explaining things in his style.

Several people in this word trying to prof Islam is best religion they like this kind of man and his statements, actually he is entertaining this kind of people or those they don’t have the knowledge of there own religion.

he saying Islam is based on science he is trying to prove this, but his examples are rubbish. in one concert a guy asked him why Islam is saying to eat animals accept poke, he is saying scientifically we have a Omnivorous tooth set thats why eat animals. but i don’t understand science never says eat animal accept poke. and one more thing in this planet every species having skull like human or ape having Omnivorous tooth set how many species are eating or hunting other animals they are animal they don’t have any religion so why most of the apes species are pure veg . So please update your knowledge data base clear things your self don’t faith this kind of person this is my appeal to every person he is Hind Muslim any religion.

I think he is a entertainer.

God is one humanity is the first religion in this word.Live with peace give respect to all religions.

you give respect to all religions. Do you consider that all religions are true? I think we shouldn’t condemned or abuse anyone, any religion but to expose the truth one can point out the errors in someone’s religious scripture.

Here i came to know about a very astonishing thing about Islam,and it was jaw dropping……… Please read on and decide on our own…

1. Is Kaaba a Shivling? ANS:- MOST CERTAINLY. It was built by Raja Chandragupta Maurya II (more popularly known as Raja Veer Vikramaditya of Ujjain who was an ardent Shaivite). He was a descendant of kings such as Raja Chandragupta Maurya, Bindusar, Ashok – The great, Samudragupta etc. PROOF:- Like Dr. Naik I will give references but REAL ONES. In a library in Istanbul, Turkey called Makhtab-E-Sultania there is an anthology of Pre-arabic Persia called Sayar-Ul-Okul Pg-315.The verse is:- Kafvinak Zikramin Ulumin tab aseru Kaluvan Amatatul hava a lazakkuru Na tazasveroha udan elelavada-a lilavra Valuka ene zatallahe aum tab aseru Va aha lolaha Azah aramian MAHADEV Manozel ilamuddine Minahum va savatt ar That means : “Can the person, who indulged in bad deeds and lustful and angry activities, be granted salvation if he repents, atones for and proposes to embrace dharma and follow righteous path? If he worships Lord Mahadev with true devotion he can attain the highest position in spiritual attainments.”

The name of Mahadev is mentioned in the Arabic original exactly as it is pronounced in Sanskrit or other Indian languages. Umer bin Hashsham (Muhammad’s grandfather) further says, “Oh Lord! Grant me a day’s stay in India in exchange for my entire life, because by reaching there a man attains salvation.”

The means :- “Oh holy land India, you are great Because God has made you to spread His Wisdom.”

The above lines are enough to show what sentiments the Arabs entertained regarding Lord Shiva and India. Lord Shiva was held as God of knowledge, and India the land of knowledge and both were respected for their benign influence.

2. Bhavishya Puran says, the land of the mlechhas (the people who follow adharm) is prevalent and its chieftain Mahamaad (in Sanskrit it means MAHA = GREAT and MAAD = deceiver, wicked e.g. PRAMAAD means PRA = Work, MAAD = to deceive i.e. to deceive or leave work or laziness) is the most unholy. O great king, he has been born of the Paishachiya yoni (of the womb of adharm) and he will give rise to a demoniac civilization which will fall on its own.

3. Muslims still worship Hajr-Al-Aswad (Aswad = Ashwet meaning Black in Sanskrit) and Hajr means stone. Its a black deformed Shivling which Mohammad demolished since he was slain by Lord Shiv in his previous birth as Tripurasur.

4. Mohammad said, “DO OPPOSITE TO WHAT PAGANS (HINDUS) DO” so they do all the things opposite to us. e.g. Kaaba is the only place where they circumambulate the deity but unlike Hindus they do it in counter-clockwise direction.

5. They shave off because when you enter temple you should be cleanly shaved and generally with two white robes which they still follow.

It would be a news for most of the Hindus when somebody says that Muhammad, the prophet of Islam was actually killed by poisoning. The reason behind this revenge by a Jewish widow and the suffering Muhammad had to undergo speak volumes about his life and deeds. Just a peep into this less known part of Muhammad’s life reminds one of the eternal law of Karma. Muhammad’s final years were testimony to the famous saying “As you sow so shall you reap”. May be even innocent muslims who are brainwashed by mullas like Zakir Naik might not have known these historical facts. Inspired and energized by Zakir Bai MBBS, the muslim youth are hyperactive in the internet world. They are busy enlightening the whole world about in-fallacy of Islam and Koran. They don’t miss any chance to proclaim the scientific basis of their book. Least ashamed to claim even the latest scientific discoveries as something already mentioned in Koran. They make videos ‘analyzing’ other faiths, write their own versions of ‘comparative’ studies of religions. It is time Hindus wake up to this low grade intellectual assault in which ordinary people can be trapped.

Below is a link to a video which quotes from authentic islamic sources to tell us about the end of Muhammad.

It is funny to see that people quote from Islamic web sites to prove that, Muhammad’s coming was predicted in Vedas and Bhavishya Purana. If we agree with this argument, are you not accepting Hindu scriptures to be divine which could correctly predict things which are going to happen thousands of years later ? If that is the case do you think god was a fool when he said about innumerable things in the same scriptures which are contradictory to Muhammad’s teachings ? Or is God realized his mistake only later and had a second thought to send out Qran as a correction ?

Vedas proclaims the oneness of God and at the same time accepts the innumerable paths to reach him ! Vedas say God is at the same time formless and with forms. Without attributes (Nirguna) and with all the attributes !

Gita which is the summary of Vedic teachings, clearly says about the repetition of life, death and rebirth. It clearly says all worlds from the Hell to the Brahma loka are temporary. So even those who reach heaven have to come back to this world to achieve Mukthi ! There is no concept of eternal hell or heaven in Vedic literature. According to Hindu scriptures Heaven and Hell are impermanent experiences. So if some parts in Vedas and Puranas are proved to be true, is it not illogical to rebuke other parts just because they do not suit your religious prejudice ? Gita and Puranas talk about God coming down to earth as Avathars from time to time. So now you are accepting this as well right ? There is no concept of last prophet or last Avathar. Kalki is the last Avathar only for this ChathurYuga. That means according to Hindu scriptures Avathars never end. So Muhammad can not be the last prophet, even Kalki is not.

For us, creation, sustenance and transformation are perpetual processes which exists simultaneously. Not like Abrahamic ideas of God’s creation of this universe once for all. Brahma the creative force of Brahmam is always at work. And after some time there is a Pralaya period in which this creative force remain at rest (with no material universe existing) before starting a new cycle. Even modern scientific theories about the universe endorse these ideas. So are you with us ?

According to Vedas and Gita, this creation itself is the manifestation of the creator. So everything including humans are part of God. So there is no separate God. This is clearly and repeatedly mentioned in Gita. Now as this is contradictory to Qran, and since you know that Hindu scriptures have already proved it’s mettle by accurately predicting the coming of Muhammad, are they not superior and true ? Atleast they proved themselves ! Qran could not make even one such prediction and prove itself. So better you shun the illogical ideas of Qran and accept the ideas of Vedanta which even foresaw the advent of Islam !

first of i would to tell u all that u seems to be desperate in blaming islam for all wrongs and voilence without knowing the ground reality.do u know the biggest threat to india is maoists and u all neglect it because ur aim to maline islam and nothing else.first of all i would like to clear a few doubts.1.about sects it is clearly stated in scriptures that whosoever follows the quran and hadiths will go to heaven.there is nothing like sunni will go or in sunni only wahabis will go.and if the person from any sect present now a days practise the real islam will go to jannah as allah himself promised that he will not do any bit of injustice.2.about ur aspect of being vegeterian?man u all know that its a personal choice and even scietifically u think that whyy we have set of teeths which is a combination of herbivores and carnivores.why our digetive system is able to digest non veg ?be logical agniveer and vajra.AND ANY ONE WHO IS MUSLIM BY NAME AND NOT FOLLOWING IT PROPERLY DOESN’T MEAN THAT THERE IS FAULT IN ISLAM.FOR EXAMPLE A PERSON WISHES TO DERIVE FERRARI AND HE DOESN’T KNOW DRIVING AND HE TRIES AND SMASHES IT DOESN’T MEAN THAT THE CAR HAS FAULT IT IS ONE OF WORLD’S BEST.VAJRA UR RELIGION DOESN’TRESTRICT TO ONLY ON MARRAIGE KRISNA HAD AROUN 16000 WIFES AND ISLAM STRICTLY SAYS THAT U SHOULD MARRY 1 2 3 4AS PER UR CAPACITY IT DOESN’T SAY NOT ONLY ONE.THERE IS NO WHERE WRITTEN IN HINDU SCRIPTURES JUST TO MARRY ONE IT IS INDIAN LAW FOR HINDUS .AND IF ALLAH HAS CHOSEN ANY OF US TO BE MESSENGER OR PROPHET MUHAMMED THEN AGAIN VAJRA WOULD HAD ASKED WHY NOT OTHER.IT IS NON SENSE.

hello, viewers, i m fully convinced with mr. m.a.khan and dishad’s views. It is true that lots of wolfs are hidden in form of sheeps amongs us and others. Who cannot bear this fact that “entire ummah should come under one umberala” i.e. one Allah one Quran and one Mohammad. Any person who try to bring the ummah on the subject “UNDERSTAND QURAN” they will be against that person in one way or other. Infact, He has changed my life and i think, lots of other people s life also, entirely, when we started learning and undertanding Quran. What is “HAQ” and “STRAIGHT PATH”? you will be able to understand only when you understand Qur’an and Sunnah. I pray for Dr. Zakir and his team and request him, please carry on your mission and entire ummah is with u except some wolfs in form of sheeps. syed anas subzwari, meerut

U people have several options as ur book is based on jewish , arab pagan and aspects of christian teachings , and now claiming to be of vedic approval , u guys can become a true arab pagan , a complete jew , a follower of jesus or sanatanis . If jewish and arab paganism aspect is removed its left with nothing but a political movement . Many people in middle east have started to turning to christianity as report says .

To mlecchas, The Arabic term b-ismi-llāhi r-raḥmāni r-raḥīm which is uttered before every verse of Quran is literal translation of “Dayanand ki Jai”. Does Quran sings glory of Dayanand?If u shud adopt true vedas . Now Dayanand has been the strongest critic of Quran ever. So muslims shud approve vedas . We can also mistranslate , and we can hurt u .

A vedic or dharmic is prohibited from riding a camel or an ass and to bathe naked. He should purify himself by suppressing his breath”. It is forbidden . kaurama is actually praise on King Parikshit. mamahe is verb and not a noun .

To mlecchas, Several people have translated these Kuntap Suktas like M. Bloomfield, Prof. Ralph Griffith . The translators mentioned by IRF, two are western indologists who had their own Christian agenda. They can no way be considered relevant for understanding of Vedas. Atharvaveda and other vedas were composed years before the start of many civilizations . It was currupted by western missionaries , which IRF is trying to copy now . The problem with muslims is ego and lack of understanding of hindu scriptures which is tough and they are trying defend and accuse others by any means .

word allah it self is preislamic and it is just a title used by arabs to denote a god . A MAN MARRYING HIS DAUGHTER IN LAW HAS NO PLACE IN VEDAS WHOM MUSLIMS WANT TO PROVE AND TO WHITE WASH THAT THEIR PROPHET IS IN VEDIC SCRIPTURES .

This is for muslims to know . It is thus said by al-Bukhari that the ur prophet himself said: “This world shall not pass away until the buttocks of the women of Daws wiggle [again] around the dhu-al-Khalasah and they worship it as they were want to do [before Islam]”. so u guys do this !.

@Muslim ___________Allah can forgive everything but can not forgive shirk i.e worshiping any other thing except HIM. It is same as your wife considers another strange person as husband___________ If my wife consider another person as husband that means another person exist that is why I am jealous with him. So is case with Allah not sure about its oneness.

Allah has everything and created human with highest rank among other creature. and He wants that human should obey him and also worship him. Allah can forgive everything but can not forgive shirk i.e worshiping any other thing except HIM. It is same as your wife considers another strange person as husband. or you say to you father that you are not my father which no one can tolerate.

mr.truth seeker u r abusing a lot, i request u to know what is right and what is wrong. if that we muslims are wrong then we will be punished by some supernatural power which we call Allah and some Call RAM and etc .., etc…,

As-Salāmu `Alaykum Hari, The word “Hindu” is neither a Sanskrit word nor is this word found in any of the native dialects and languages of India. It should be noted that “Hindu” is NOT a religious word at all. There is no reference of the word “hindu” in the Ancient Vedic Scriptures.It is said that the Persians used to refer to the Indus river as Sindhu. Indus is a major river which flows partly in India and partly in Pakistan. However, the Persians could not pronounce the letter “S” correctly in their native tongue and mispronounced it as “H.” Thus, for the ancient Persians, the word “Sindhu” became “Hindu.” The ancient Persian Cuneiform inscriptions and the Zend Avesta refer to the word “Hindu” as a geographic name rather than a religious name. When the Persian King Darious 1 extended his empire up to the borders of the Indian subcontinent in 517 BC, some people of the Indian subcontinent became part of his empire and army. Thus for a very long time the ancient Persians referred to these people as “Hindus”. The ancient Greeks and Armenians followed the same pronunciation, and thus, gradually the name stuck. The proper word to use for those people who follow the Scriptures of The Vedas is “Sanatana Dharma”, not “Hinduism”

Osama, We have not denied that hindu is persian . Sanatana dharma is our religion and way of life . Even persia was under control of indian kings , and zoroastranism is based on vedic fire worship. The religion and way of life followed by people of bharat or bharat varsha is sanatana dharma . The name bharat varsha became name of this land after the king Bharat .He was son of King Dushyanta of Hastinapura ( In Uttar Pradesh )and Queen Śakuntalā of lunar dynasty of kshatriya varna . Bharata have conquered all of Greater India, uniting it into a single political entity which was named after him as “Bhāratavarṣa”The people who follow these philosophies can be called sanatanis or dharmist or vedic .The Bharat Empire included the whole territory of the Indian subcontinent, including parts of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, siberia[3], Turkmenistan, North-west Tibet, Nepal and Bangladesh. The word india was coined by foreigners . The geographical nature of Bharat that we see today was different from that what was before . Pakistan afganisthan and bangladesh became different countries . This was due frequent invasions from foreign lands , and even by indo iranian tribes during battle of ten kings .

As-Salāmu `Alaykum Raj.hyd yeh shyad upanishad me hai..the word Mahamad appears in the Puranas, Mamah in Kuntap Sukt (in Atharva Veda) and Ahmad in Sama Veda… Among the eighteen volumes of the Puranas is one by the title ‘Bhavishya Puran,’ literally meaning future events. The Hindus regard it as the Word of God. The prophecy containing Prophet Muhammad by name is found in Prati Sarg Parv III: 3, 3, Verse 5. The translation of Verses 5-27 (Sanskrit text of the Puranas, Prati Sarg Parv III: 3, 3) is presented.The Sama Veda contains many prophecies of the advent of Prophet Mohammad. Here, one of them is presented. It is found in Sama Veda, II:6,8: aur es ke saht mai apko andhera se roshne ki taraf ane ke dawat date hu

poda pulle , u r just copying currupt translations of vedas to prove that mamah is muhammad , if u still believe then it is u who shud convert to sanatana dharma , sanskrit translations can be mistranslated .

As-Salāmu `Alaykum Hari, In your vedas its written that the whole world is created by one brahma. I also belive in one god that is ALLAH The most merciful.So if brahma created the earth why are you worshiping other gods.You should belive in one god.Once my hindu friend gave me prasad on the ganesh chatrapati.I asked him a simple question Who is ganesh? He told me that Ganesha was born with a human head and body and his mother said that i am taking rest don’t allow anyone to come. and when shiva wants to enter the house ganesh stops him and said you cannot go inside the house.Shiva gets angry and beheaded him. THEN I QUESTION YOU IF SHIVA CANNOT REMEMBER HIS SON HOW CAN HE REMMBER YOU AND ME.THEN HOW CAN HE BE THE GOD.IS lord shri ram god? prophet? messanger? or just ahuman?LET US BEGIN WITH THE VICTORY OF LORD RAMA IN THE LAND OF LANKA SO we all know rama renounced mothe sita.After killing ravan in the battlefield. rama was silent while sita entering fire to prove she is pure ans sinless to the world. this clearly shows that rama was a mere human.

We all evolve with time. We learn from our mistakes and grow wiser. We toil hard and achieve glory. Hinduism/SD recognizes this. It recognizes that each and every soul is potentially divine and can reach great spiritual heights. But the Abrahamic faiths do not. They only believe in God-sent messengers.

osama , the word allah itself is preislamic word used by nabateans cult similar to Elah in ugarit texts . allah is the preislamic word for supreme diety worshipped in kabba along with hubal and manat , also aluzza (venus)was also mighty one for tribes . each tribe there worshipped different dieties . And allat was wife of allah , similar to elah married to elat . hubal was son of allat (solar diety ) , hubal was similar to greek dionsyus who gave thunder and lightning . They used to sacrifice and venerate before them based on divine arrows . Based on this muslims created story of ibrahim sacrifing his son , which was actually based on sacrifice of Abdullah bin ‘Abdul Muttalib before hubal . It was then replaced with camels for slaughtering . As hubal was synonymous with allah at that time muslim scriptures donot mention about hubal . Their prophet simply for political means destroyed everything which is preislamic , 360 idols and other but attributed qualities of different dieties to his new allah but still retained pagan customs of worship which is a reformed paganism . as islam and preislamic worship is a cult hubal was also considered their allah at some point of time when aluzza , allat and manat was assosciated as his daughters . ancient arabians worshiped only two gods mainly one is oratalt which became hubal recently and other is aphrodite which became allat . Allat was worshiped as a vulva black stone in kabba which they kissed along with other but it was retained for new cult of islam placed in the corner now. after 300 years koran was composed by some known person just copying jewish scriptures and replaced jewish name for god with allah and added myths of gabriel and other for political reasons added banning alcohol , adultery etc which is jewish and not islamic . haj was prevalent in arabia way before islam , which is still continued with new cult of one allah whose idol was also destroyed . girls used to rune nude during hajj in kabba , but weared dress similar to what is now weared in…

“A lamp kept in windless place does not shake.” Bhagvad Gita: 6: 19 Correct Translation:As a lamp in a windless place does not waver, so the transcendentalist, whose mind is controlled, remains always steady in his meditation on the transcendent self. He gives a simile comparing an unwavering flame in a windless place with the mind of a yogi rapt in concentrated mediatation on the atma or soul. The purport is as a candle flame is sheltered from the wind, the mind of a yogi shines bright by the unflickering effulgence of the atma. SO BEFORE COPYING CORRUPTED TRANSLATIONS OF VEDAS FROM WEBSITES OF INDOLOGISTS AND CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES STUDY TRUE VEDAS . It is because you are afraid that truth will prevail one day and you will be left out , your insecurity had made you write all this. KETTODA PANNA KAZHUVARADA MONE , PANNI KUNNE .

Lord Krishna’s visvarupa or divine universal form having His eyes being the sun and moon. It should be understood as both the sun and the moon which originate from Him. Her him refers not to physical krishna , it is his self or atma or cosmic purusha as krishna is fully realized soul who knows that he is not just body he his paramatma . Infinite nature of divine is explained . he is explaining tatwamasi to arjuna. Here writer just added an allegorical meaning by expaining that sun orginated from his eyes to give a beauty to lords words .Then this is in accordance with the Rig Veda that states: Since all the 330 million demigods have been produced from just a portion of the Supreme Lord they are glorified as His individual parts.Lord is explaining and giving arjuna a divine gift to visualize true form which constitutes entire universe . “The Bull has supported the sky.” Yajur Ved: 4: 30 THE CORRECT TRANSLATION : THE WORD VRUSHABHAM IN THIS MANTRA MEANS GLORIOUS NOT BULL. IT IS NATURAL FOR AUM TO CREATE AND PERVADE THE SUN, WIND,LIGHT ANDHEAVENLY BODIES LIKE THE EARTH . Indra is often compared to a bull.

“In the beginning rose Hiranyagarbha, born only Lord of all created beings. He fixed and holds up the earth and the heaven.” Rig Ved: 10: 121: 1. THE CORRECT TRANSLATION : ” In the beginning was Hiranyagarbha – the One Lord of the creation. He sustains the sun and the earth. We adore Him – the all BlissfulBeing =AUM .” . “Firm is the sky and firm is the earth and steadfast are also these hills. Steadfastis all this living world…..” Rig Ved: 10: 173: 4 THE CORRECT TRANSLATION: “Firm is the sky and firm is the earth and steadfast are also these hills (ACCORDING TO THE RULE S ORDAINED BY AUM Steadfast is this entire living world (ACCORDING TO THE RULES ORDAINED BY AUM) . LET THISKING BE STEADFAST (THE KING SHOULD STICK TO THE RULE OF LAW) .THE SANSKRIT WORD USED IS DHRUVA (STEADFAST) I.E. WE SHULD BE ABLE TOFOLLOW THE KING IN TERMS OF ADHERENCE TO RULES/LAW OF THE LAND .

“God has firmly fixed the earth with pegs around it.” Yajur Ved: 5: 16 THE CORRECT TRANSLATION : [VYASKAMNA = SAMYAK STAMBHAN] AUM SUSTAINSTHE EARTH AND PERVADES IT………. QURAN COPIES THIS CONCEPT FROM THE VEDAS. “North West of the heavens.” Yajur Ved: 13: 56, 57 THE CORRECT TRANSLATION : JUST LIKE THE LEARNED MEN ATTAIN THE LIGHT OF KNOWLEDGE TO OTHERS , I, O WOMAN WILL ATTAIN POWER ALONG WITH YOU.PASHCHAT TASYA=THE SUN PRESENT IN THE WESTERN DIRECTION WHICH ISBEHELD BY NETRA=EYES…..MEN AND WOMEN SHOULD LEARN AT THE FEET OF GURUS. IDAM UTTARAT SWAH=THE SOURCE OF HAPPINESS/SUKHA IN THE NORTH DIRECTION…… .“The sky is supported by pillars.” Yajur Ved: 4: 30 THE CORRECT TRANSLATION : IT IS NATURAL FOR AUM TO SUSTAIN THE SUN , THESPACE BETWEEN HEAVENLY BODIES, , TOSUSTAIN . IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PILLARS . Here an allegorical meaning is given to sustain by using word pillar. THIS CONCEPT HAS BEEN COPIED FROM THE VEDAS TO THE QURAN

anyone who wants to eat meat and feed it to his / her children, should first watch how chicken are slaughtered and how quadrupeds suffer with a broken skull – not even beheaded! to furnish that “precious” food. After watching the slaughter, they are free to eat meat if they still want it. The Ksatriya class are allowed to eat meat once in a fortnight during the day of amavasya after making an offering to Mother Kali in a temple outside the city limits. They are allowed to do so because they have to keep their competence to kill enemies opposed to dharma. But wanton killing of animals on a large scale in slaughter houses were not allowed. One has to kill the animal by himself and should chant mamsa. Or Sah mam khadati. He shall eat me in his next life. This is an irrevocable truth because for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The other varnas are not allowed to eat meat. The vedic scriptures and itihasas could sometimes contain this word mamsa which could also mean flesh of a fruit. Meat is considered food in lower modes namely Tamo Guna or ignorance according to Bhagavad Gita . But this never applies to Cow. Cow is always given an special position in Vedas. Cow protection is the dharma of vaishyas. Even Lord Krishna emphasized of protection of Cow by his own example.

2.“In the beginning rose Hiranyagarbha, born only Lord of all created beings. He fixed and holds up the earth and the heaven.” Rig Ved: 10: 121: 1. We all know today that the earth revolves and rotates and is not fixed.

3.“Firm is the sky and firm is the earth and steadfast are also these hills. Steadfast is all this living world…..” Rig Ved: 10: 173: 4

As-Salāmu `Alaykum Raj.hyd, I think you will not belive me but I AM JUST 13 YEARS OLD.BUT According to scriptures there are 320 million (32 Crores) GODS.. The Hindus are not polytheistic. Hinduism speaks of one God” according to A. Parthasarathy. He explains: “The different gods and goddesses of the Hindu pantheon are mere representatives of the powers and functions of the one supreme God in the manifested world.”

Other Hindus claim that there are 330 million gods.

So it depends on who you ask. One God is bad enough but picking and chosing from over 3,000. and calling it a religion? Thats 10 times worse than all those cafeteria Catholics out there. Hindu Scriptures of India, in the following quote. This shows them to be very unscientific, hence disproving Eastern religions and modern New Age thinking which are based on the Vedas.

1-The moon is 50,000 leagues higher than the sun. 2- Moon shines by its own light. 3- night is caused by the sun’s setting behind a huge mountain. 4- several thousand feet high, sun located in the centre of the earth. 5- that this world, flat and triangular. 6- world is composed of 7 states one of honey, another of sugar, a third of butter, and still another of wine, 7- the whole mass is borne on the heads of countless elephants, which in shaking produce earthquakes.”

As you can see, there are at least seven clear scientific errors in this short passage of the Vedas. ONLY ONE MISTAKE IS ENOUGH TO PROVE THAT VEDA IS NOT A BOOK OF GOD.HINDU also can eat meat because It is mentioned in Ayodhya Khandam, verses 20,26 and 94 that when Rama was sent for Banavas he told his mother that he would have to sacrifice his tasty meat dishes. If Rama had to sacrifice his tasty meat dishes it meant that Rama had likeness for meat. If Rama can have meat, why can’t the Hindus have meat? FEW SCIENTIFIC ERRORS IN HINDU SCRIPTURES

1.“He who fixed firm the earth that staggered, and set at rest the agitated mountains, who measured out the air’s wide…

[Hujurat 49:11] O People who Believe! Men must not ridicule other men for it could be that the ridiculed are better than the mockers, nor must the women ridicule other women for the ridiculed women may be better than the mockers; and do not insult one another, nor assign evil nicknames; how base it is to be called a sinner after being a Muslim! And whoever does not repent – then it is they who are unjust.

Mr Agniveer, Why are so afraid of Zakir Naik? It is because you are afraid that truth will prevail one day and you will be left out , your insecurity had made you write all this. Look into your heart , dont be afraid accept the truth and you will find peace. May the God ALMIGHTY help you overcome your fears.

Listen ilyas, its not Agniveer who is scared, but Zakir Naik. Zakir Naik has been openly challenged for a debate many years before, till today, he refuses to accept the challenge of Arya Samaj. Why dont you google search “zakir naik challenged by Arya” and go on youtube and search for “islam vs arya samaj debate”, you would know ur answers then. People like you are always scared to debate. Naik has been running away for the last 7 years.

What I think of Dr Zakir Naik and why I am against him? Dr Zakir Naik MBBS (Bachelor of Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery) is a preacher and speaker from the Islamic community talking on various different topics relating widely on religions, religious scriptures, political issues and many other topic. One of unique things about Dr Zakir Naik is that he suggests that he knows everything about different religions, Islamic, Christianity, Jewish, Buddhism, Sikhism, Hinduism and Jainism. Moreover he is also aware of what is said in every scripture’s and knows the chapters, verses and quotes of by heart. He has been all over different places countries and spreading those lectures in relation to these areas specifically. In every session taken place on different topics, the whole building has been full up with public for his lecture. A lot of people ask questions in relation to those topics and they answered very smartly by him, whether the person asking is Muslim or not Muslim. What I personally believe about Dr Zakir Naik? With Dr Zakir Naik talking about all these different topics and spreading his opinion is not right and I believe that it is totally wrong. This is because; he always thinks logically his way and assumes that must be the right way. As a result, most of the people see what he believes and happens to change their decision in that case. Should that be allowed publicly? Why I believe this about Dr Zakir Naik? For Dr Zakir Naik having this type of discussion influences people and believed that it is only him that is aware of what is right and wrong. The people drown into what he believes. As a result, this gives him to opportunity to divert their brain however he wants them. This then would stop them from thinking and they believe that Dr Zakir Naik is the god. Comparing two different religious scriptures: It is a fact that all different religions have their own scriptures. More common is that even the scripture say the same thing; they are going to have different meaning and different belief because; they introduce different religions. The way Dr Zakir Naik approaches them is by comparing two different scriptures from different religion. The most common way is to by looking at the similarities and mentioning those points in an Islamic way. Also, in various scripture, he says that he knows Chapter, verses and quotes of by heart, which is not the case all the time. Also misinterprets the meaning, but makes it some obvious to public and they believe them. This turns down other scriptures and make them less informative to people that belong or do not belong that community. The main effort by him is having good argument and logic involved on those topics. But to my point of view, it is totally baseless if they are not to have the real meaning. The audience happen to believe them as they are influenced by them very strongly. But it gets a lot worse when people from those community loss faith. I believe that is very bad and unacceptable way to lecture over different religion. It is not only me, but various other people that are Muslim and non Muslim thinks the same. Comparing two different religions: When the discussions are done on religion, Dr Zakir Naik has the common approach carried out by comparing two different religions. The religion introduced all the time is Islamic and in comparison introduced other religions that are Christianity and Hinduism most of the time. By introducing Christianity, he implies how their values and Islamic values are similar. It is the same approach with the Hinduism and what values come under that religion. The comparison introduced in this what Hindus and Islamic believe in common. I really am not satisfied when such comparisons are made that do not have any similarities at all. This is because; in comparison, he makes judgement of what Hinduisms have in common. Comments are made by him regarding Hindus believing in Idols as god and holy offering that are given in temple to the worshipers and in counter responses brings in what the scriptures say by misinterpreting it. Can this not have negative impact on what people should believe in Hinduism? I see that it has nothing go to do with Dr Zakir Naik and he does not the real fact on what Hinduism believes. The most approaches carried out are by connecting things that have different meaning but want to introduce that their in no dedication like this. With Hinduism being vegetarian, he also counter argue and introduce false believe is carried out. In many discussions, he has been discussing about existence of the Hindu gods and introduces what the Hindu scriptures say by totally misinterpreting what it means. As a result, this misguides many people and they happen to go against the belief. This creates a lot of problem because other religions would have bad opinion about Hinduism and can brainwash people from Hinduism and other people from different community. Is Dr Zakir not racist? Also, in discussion suggests some things that Hinduism needs to follow by saying that they do not. Is this not going to demoralise the Hindus community? Will it not make the Hindu community look bad in comparison to other communities? Discussing about political issues (Islamic Terrorism): Apart from religion Dr Zakir Naik also has discussion on political issues that very closely relate to Islamic community. One of the main topics introduced by him is on terrorism and in what ways political reasons have defamed the Islamic community in the society. To make the people think in a different way, Dr Zakir Naik shows how other religions and community are part of terrorist organisation. In the discussion, Dr Zakir Naik had involved how Great Britain had been affected by terrorism. It was obvious that Great Britain was affected by terrorism on the 7 July 2005 and America on the 9/11 attack. In defence of Islamic community, Dr Zakir Naik introduces how Great Britain and America was affected by the IRA (Irish Republic Army). But the fact is that IRA (Irish Republic Army) terrorist organisation was finished a long time ago and recently, they have not done terrorist attack. Why would Dr Zakir Naik want to bring in something that is old? Apart from that, LTTE (Liberation of Tigers of Tamil Eelam) was brought in front. But LTTE (Liberation of Tigers of Tamil Eelam) only causes problems to Sri Lanka and they have finished. Also, they did not spread their ideology all through out the world. The Islamic terrorism had started a long time and ago and they are still on going and there is no end to it. I believe this is one of the ways to victimise other religious minorities and make them look like the culprit. On top of that, also make the British media responsible for all this. Despite the evidence are shown, still Dr Zakir Naik comes out with defence on them. But all the information is given by him is orally and no concrete evidence on that is introduced. Calling people from different religion’s to Public sessions: Dr Zakir Naik call people called from different religion for discussion. This makes it more obvious to the audience that anything. Also, they would not feel that he is biased and the person brought into the conversation and the public would take more interest. They all have discussion on the religious discussion on the topic raised in the session. Later, they argue on that issue of what is said in the scriptures and how the religious society and community is made. As a result, Dr Zakir Naik is able to win the arguments. The affect of the public is that they believe that he is very knowledgeable on the all the religions comparing to the other people. To my point of view, this is not right because just arguing any point logically and having evidence presented falsely would not mean that they are the winner. Are all the people right all the time of they win the arguments? When people talk about Dr Zakir Naik? People are going to be talking about Dr Zakir Naik in public and general conversation as they are influenced by them. As a result, they would make others interested in to what they believe and later they would also follow Dr Zakir Naik. This is just one of the ways people would not follow what they believe and go against their principle. This could against their religion and how they see things. This will only happen because in every session Dr Zakir Naik always goes on about how different topics and is very detailed. I believe this is wrong because other people that are also like Dr Zakir Naik would not be seen by the public and will be ignore. As a result, this is wrong make others turned down in that fashion. Is this going to be a bad influence on other people? Where does Dr Zakir Naik travel for his purpose? There are various nations that Dr Zakir Naik has travelled to experience how people in different countries are like. The main logic for Dr Zakir Naik is to have a public session and make people aware about him. As a result, he would involve them and make them as part of those lectures. In the lectures, he would want to discuss what facilities those are in their country and how they are bad influence they to them. Dr Zakir Naik would not even understand anything as in those countries as he himself would not know and just talk about it. Even if the information is not right, he would not bother as the public would follow and understand what his logic and understanding is. Also, those public would be coming often their and they would develop understanding of what he is trying to say. But Dr Zakir Naik does not just want to spread logic round the world but spread Islamic logic and make people think their way. Would it be right to use Islamic logic to have public sessions? Who comes to be part of Dr Zakir Naik Public sessions? This makes people from different religion and countries come and listen as all this may relate to them. This results Dr Zakir Naik to be a lot famous in front of the people that belong to different cultures and community. Does Zakir Naik have any rights to famous that way? In the nation wherever they live, they would not follow the rules and regulation as part of that religion and would look for changes in those nations. In certain nation, they have their own logic and ways to deal with thing. I totally do not see point that Zakir Naik should make any comments of everything. Also he would not have the full knowledge what happens in different countries. As a result, their conflicts and be a problem to those areas. This is just a way that Dr Zakir Niak is going to cause a dispute and problem overall by spreading irrelevant logical reasons. How do people react after listening to Dr Zakir Naik? People are brainwashed of what he says in the public sessions. As a result, in future only his logic would be used by people. This would people see ways differently and not understand their own belief, cultures and background, which they come from. Those people become so dedicated and all follow his logic. Does anyone even bother to look at why Dr Zakir Naik thinks of anything that way? The problem occurs when others get affected by these types of thought and later produces disturbance all through out. People in the public end up converting their religions: Dr Zakir Naik in all of the conversation has mentioned about the Islamic community and what benefits they have. Also to produce more depth in the information discusses about how the Islamic community function with the community, society and community. In contrast says a lot opposite about other religion and community. In the audience, this would influence many people against other religion and also go against their religion. This would result to extent that they would convert their religion to Islamic community. This has taken place in the public session that he has and ask them of they have not being forced. But the fact is that they have been forced and they are not going to admit that in public as they know the result later on for them could be bad. Also, they are brainwashed about Islamic community and they happen to follow Islam. Many British, Americans, Australian and many different citizens have converted to Islam and they are successful Islamic scholar and have discussion on what Islam is all about afterwards. Also in Hinduism, many cases people have been forced to convert to Islam and they are not originally from the Islamic community. Previously, many Hindus have been forced to convert to Islam. In Dr Zakir Naik public session, this has been the same result and many of them have taken the similar step. I would like to ask that how many people belonging to Islamic community have converted to other religion. This is because; if atheist can convert to Islam that apply many restriction to them, then why cannot people from Islamic community converted to atheist? As a result, they would have much more freedom and also would keep balance on what Islamic community take, they can also give. If not atheist, then other different religion, they can covert to. There are various Muslims in the world that are not strict Muslims and do not going the Quran like other Muslim. But is says in the holy Quran that if any Muslim converts to another religion, they are going to be given a death sentence. Is this not just going to develop Islamic community and turn down other religions? Negative impact of Dr Zakir Naik on different people and professions: On all discussion, Dr Zakir Naik introduces negative information on politician, religions, Media and so on that all happens to be wrong. To my point of view, it is just going to be defaming people and their profession. The information presented is always one sided by him and introduce nothing positive about the same topics. This would influence the public to think only one side and not allow them to use their own initiative. If any dispute between communities or religious minorities happen, Dr Zakir Naik would blame others and defame them. This would make it obvious in terms that he would always have logic used all the way through. In contrast to all this, it is only Dr Zakir Naik that is gaining honour and getting away. As a result, he is quite successful in terms how the audience is responding to him. This also allows him to continue on what he believe is right to do all the time. Is this right way to use the knowledge? Dr Zakir Naik also came on NDTV 24X7 in the “Walk the Talk” show. Later he denied what he had said in the news and said that the whole of show was cut and pasted. Can anybody believe Dr Zakir Naik? In this issue it is possible that the media for the audience attraction, they may lie. But in many cases Dr Zakir Naik have done the same and ruined people and professions. As a result, I cannot believe that Dr Zakir Naik is right as on many occasions he has made up opinions. There are people that have bad opinion on him, would believe that anything mentioned negative about him in the media would have to right. It is obvious that Dr Zakir Naik would not agree with that and would counter argue to self defend himself. May result religious dispute between two different communities for example Genocide? This can cause a religious dispute between two different cultures because on many occasions he has only talked positive about Islam and negative about other religions. The effect of this on the community has been negative at some point. If is gets a lot worse, he can create genocide between two communities and have people killing each other in the name of religion. Dr Zakir Naik wants communities to be closer and live happily in the society. But certain actions have caused damages to many people are not happy about it because only he himself and Islamic community have earned the benefit. Are the people from other communities not going to feel abused? As a result, two different communities are going to have dispute and later spread disturbance all round. Even if the situation gets worse for the two different communities, it will be again that Dr Zakir Naik would come and have public session and blamed other and get away for that causes. But the real culprit would be he himself. In future, different communities would not appreciate help and mixture of others, which would result worse atmosphere. In response to all this, I would see he is one of Blasphemers that people in the community, Muslims and Non-Muslims have as risk. Dr Zakir Naik using different ways to attract the audience: When I had gone on Your Tube, I had seen many different videos on Dr Zakir Naik’s public discussion on the religious topics. This implies that there are many different ways he is trying to pass his message to the audience. To my point of view, I believe this is one of ways; he is trying to catch people and brainwash. In the commenting section, many different people have given positive comment on his logic. But in contrast, I have seen many people giving negative comments on his video. This illustrates that many people do not like the way as he is using his knowledge and they want all this to stop. Moreover the people that do not like him, they have also made video of him to introduce his way of logic is not right. In that case, I believe those type of videos produced against him, should be understood why they are made. This would enlighten people not to fall in his trick and believe what he says. Also, I would recommend the owner of the Your Tube to eliminated his video for as they are relating to Blasphemy. Dr Zakir Naik doing Fraud: On having so many public sessions, Dr Zakir Naik has earned a lot of respect on what he believes people in the community think of him. Later, the news had come out that he had been charged with fraud. The fraud involved using the quotes for the Quran and copying and pasting and giving his own point of view. This implies that he has plagiarised someone work and effort, and tried to earn his name. To my point of view, wherever anybody does as part of their work, they need to have their own knowledge and understand. Using other people’s knowledge for your purpose is known as stealing and anybody who lives in respective community and society would not appreciate that. It also makes me believe that all the public sessions that he has are nothing and have no value because; he had been carrying this type of approach all the way through or exaggerating information. Dr Zakir Naik was going to come to Britain to have a public session. But he was not refused to come and was not able to make it. The reason why he was banned because of the way he was spread his Islamic logic all the way and on the public this was a band influence. I believe that this was the right approach to make the people think how his attitude can cause a problem. There were few people that were not happy but mainly, they were people that belong to the same community has him. It makes it much worse if the religious community that he belongs to in questioned because; they would feel pinpointed. To my point of view, I believe that these types of people should be thrown out the community and society. Public have different point of view of Dr Zakir Naik now: After seen different point of views, many people also have negative opinion on Dr Zakir Naik and believe that in many ways he is wrong. This has created his negative images in front of the people that are dedicated to him and believe that he just wanted to be their god in front of them and use them. In response, not just Non-Muslims but, many Muslims disagree with him and the way his attitude towards the society and community is. This may imply people that his approach has not been right been right. The public at some point believe that he has been a cheater to them and believe that he was just wanted to get noticed by the public. He was a doctor and studied MBBS (Bachelor in Medicine and Bachelor of Surgery). So did he not continue with practicing his medicine degree? This can just mean that he was not happy with his profession or found it hard to cope with it. As a result, he decided to become a preacher in that case and later take that as a different approach. Dr Zakir Naik could have been someone in the society and community that would have treated normally. But this type of response has given him a bad impression overall at some point. How people in the world are and what Dr Zakir Naik talk about them in public sessions? There are people that have their own way to deal with things and are able to keep themselves safe from all the problems. As a result, he had made a lot of personal comments on how people live the community and society. It is important to make sure that you stay safe and respect people in the community and society. Also cultures and religion for the people plays a major role in terms of their dedication and I believe many people do show respect. But personally, I think people have their own lives and they have full rights to live how they like to on their agreement of the community and society. If in the middle of the road, somebody has a problem, are they not going to ask for help without looking at what they are and who they are? This demonstrates people understand that if somebody live life different, does not mean that they do not have humanity. On this issue, I am able to come across Dr Zakir Naik is so interested in discussing on how people to people can be a threat and introducing a lot of superstition. As a result, I think that Dr Zakir Naik has no rights to talk about people. Political power that Dr Zakir Naik may have: If Dr Zakir Naik gets away after all this, it will be politics in terms of what type of support he has. Also many people support him and if anything happens to him, the public that are very dedicated to him, will protest for him. Also with him, there are other systems that would be in his contact and can do something to support him. In political purpose even if people are wrong they will get away easily or if they are caught, they would be have other higher people that could have put their effort behind them, which would save them. As a result, these people would have no end till the others are caught as well. I would suggest the community and the people in the society to stay away form this type of people are concentrate in how to follow you culture, religion and faith. There is no need to compare religions Conclusion on what I think should happen to Dr Zakir Naik? As conclusion, I believe that however Dr Zakir Naik has behaved in the public sessions as a blasphemer should be penalised from doing that and stopped appearing in front of public for public sessions. Moreover, a police complaint and the case should be filed on his name and press serious chargers. On the basis of that, he should be given a serious punishment for his deeds. It is not only Dr Zakir Naik that has been part of this but, may other Islamic Scholar have been involved in this and they should be given the same punishment. This would imply to anybody not to become a blasphemer like him and treat people from different community and religion with respect. The community that have been following him, does not realise that he has been creating problems for others. Most of the problems have come when he had talked about religious comparison, religious scriptures and political issues. In the entire topics he had always used Islamic logic and diverted the public’s attention on them. In contrast, made others turned down. If in future they should only have religious scholar discussing about their own religion, religious scriptures, society, community, belief and so on. This will keep peace and harmony in the community and make others feel a lot satisfied that way.

islam and qoran teaches us compassion, kindness, mercy, brotherhood, charity, respect for parents, helping orphans, helping poor, every verse or ayat begins with bismillahi rehmane rahim allah is most merciful most kind and compassionate we help poors by giving part of our earnings as zakat we hold fast for more than a month qoran teaches us to lead pious life to ask for siratal mustaqim the path of truth honesty BUT…………….. what i dont understand is that some muslim scholars mind it only some of them just find the lessons of hatred in qoran so my question is are there lessons of hatred in qoran? and these people are constantly trying to identify infidel kafir do we have authority to do so? in qoran allah says i have hell fire reserved for kafirs and also he punishes them so its not our job to identify kafirs for us every human being is muslim unless and until allah says he is kafir and for us is to lead a life of kindness. compassion. mercy, forgiveness,, brotherhood, charity, siratal mustaqim . ALLAH help us to follow the path of siratal mustaqim and not the path upon which descended your wrath or your anger khauf…….

Islam is an organised crime against humanity!Muslims required Thu for tat treatment.if Muslin kills 50Hindus in godhr and 3000in newYork Americans killed thousand time in Afghanistan , Iraq and this is the only way can match their mercifull Alah Satnic verses!

hindus ki bhi site banao yaar atleast sach saamne ayega that why is this religion meant for?Attraction towards opposite sex is a natural phenomena then why parents and society objects but at the same time also pray in the temple of lord Krishna 16108 wifes and one girlfriend omg krishna ne record tod dya if u really a follower of hinduism then u have to married about 16108 women ,Siddhi and Buddhi are two wives of Lord Ganesha,In the Mahābhārata, Dhritarashtra (Sanskrit: धृतराष्ट्र, dhritarāshtra) was King of Hastinapur at the time of the Kurukshetra War, the epic’s climactic event. He was born the son of Vichitravirya’s first wife Ambika, and was fathered by Vyasa. He was blind from birth, and became father to a hundred children by his wife Gandhari (Gāndhārī).guys noted here hundered children again shoked AYYAPA He is the son born to Siva and Vishnu as a result of a homosexual act.VISHNU went to the nether world in the guise of Mohini, a woman of exquisite beauty, Shiva got intoxicated with her beauty and had sexual intercourse with her, who was in reality Vishnu. Vishnu became pregnant as a result of the homosexual act, and gave birth to Sastha from his thigh. Both Shiva and Vishnu discarded this un-naturally born illegitimate child in the forests of Sabarimalai in Kerala. … .In reality none of these gods exist or ever existed. They are the products of mental fantasies of some surrealistic creative thinkers of the past. Even today there are mentally deranged persons indulging in creating new gods. All the amorous stores connected with these gods also are the subjective creations of sex-starved surrealistic thinkers obsessed with sexual thoughts.

Accepted. What about the sexual fantasies of your beloved prophet who would not be satisfied by 11 wives and hence he had devise new methods of sexual gratification viz., sexual slavery, rapes, war booty. And you all are so happy to acknowledge him your prophet of some sick Allah who will provide pearly bottomed boys and houris to people who will kill, loot, plunder, rape in his name? You Allah must be 1 sick bastard up there.

ppeople should know more about this so called man dr. naik. who thinks & make everyone think & believe that only his religion is right & everything is wrong. he personally met with god, sorry ”allah” & collected quran & hadees etc. and clarified by his own eyes that what is true & what is not. I mean he was present at the time when all the incidents happened which is described in quran or gita or bibble. he also got the power of knowledge to expose a religion and make people hate each other, such as hindus. but this man cannot teach the lesson of islam & quran to the people of his own religion, who is becoming a bomber a terrorist, a most wanted criminals etc etc… dr. naik please teach about peace to your own community. not to kill innocent people in the name of jihad, not to become most wanted criminals or terrorist or anti-social. the world knows the truth, so better you see your own religion & community first & let every other religion live in peace. please don’t waste your time & energy by giving all those bull shit lectures on religion. you are best & everyone is wrong. the main purpose of hinduism is spreading love & respect the world knows the fact, so please don’t give birth to terrorist or criminals or anti socials by your f###ing lectures, people like you become terrorist and make others fight in the name of religion. you are so qualified but you don’t know loving others respecting others feelings. you give all those bull shit lectures & making hindu & muslims divided. you are a anti social a terrorist. you should teach that no problem whatever other religion is, respect every religion respect everyone. one more thing I just wanted to say that you are a person who gained knowledge to teach hatred, to teach how to disrespect others, how to laugh on someones religion, you teach muslims how to hate hindus & by which points you can tease the hindus. mr stupid naik, peace will come only when you teach how to respect everyone, every religion, we belong to the same god but the paths are different. we have the same color of blood & organs. we are all equal. but the shit you don’t teach this. just change your channel name from peace tv to fu## india’s peace tv… you better teach people what is islam & what is jihad. and please ask your so called peacefull allah ke bande, your good good religion followers to stop crime. without pulling the leg of hindu’s

All religions are equal.No need to change from one religion to other.Some one like Zakir naik has fundamentalist view in his religion.His intention is to market the Islam rather than spreading peace. Most autocratic governments in the world are lead by fundamentalist muslims.Muslims are the real sufferers,They cant enjoy freedom in his own country.Civil society should come forward to change this situation.

it is the habit of human being to find throne except flowers…………zakir Naik is one of the most valuable gifts for all the muslims……..at least I think so…………he is geneus…well educated………n my favouritec one………..so…………I will support him all the time………..

@Srabanty Ahmed Brother what made you think that he is flower , you thought this because he debates nicely . If yes then you must know maximum reference he gives are false and unanuthentic , all he do is just to prove anyhow , nothin more .. dont be biased and just seek for truth , that is VEDAS

@ American Muslim: Bosnia is a cakewalk when compared to what Muslims did to West Asia, North Africa, Europe and India. And by the way the Americans enabled a semblance of normality to return.

Pre-Islamic Arabs did not invade India or Turkey but Islamic Arabs did. Pre-Islamic Turks did not invade Kabul or India but Islamic Turks did. Pre-Islamic Persians did not enter India but Islamic Persians did. Pre-Islamic Arabs did not invade Spain but Islamic Arabs did. Do you see a trend pal? Turks were a combo of Buddhists,pagans and Xtians before Islam. Arabs were paganas,Jews and Xtians before Islam. Persians were Zorastrians before Islam. Afghans were Buddhists before Islam. Again, do you see a trend, pal? It is ISLAM,ISLAM,ISLAM….But for the slavery of Islam, Arabs,Turks and Persians and Mongols would have been normal humans during the medival period.

Mr.American Muslim, please return to this page often. Your enforced slumber will be gone. Mull over this, for starters.

Hasan Nizami an Arab historian records “In 1196 AD Qutbuddin Aibak advanced against Anahilwar Patan, the capital of Gujarat. After Raja Karan was defeated and forced to flee, “fifty thousand infidels were despatched to hell by the sword” and “more than twenty thousand slaves, and cattle beyond all calculation fell into the hands of the victors”. The city was sacked, its temples demolished, and its palaces plundered. On his return to Ajmer, Aibak destroyed the Sanskrit College of Visaladeva, and laid the foundations of a mosque which came to be known as ADhãî Din kã JhoMpaDã.

Tãrîkhu’l-Hind: The author Abû Rîhan Muhammad accompanied Mahmud of Ghazni, during his invasion of India. ““The linga he raised was the stone of Somnath, for soma means the moon and natha means master, so that the whole word means master of the moon. The image was destroyed by the Prince Mahmud, may God be merciful to him! – AH 416. He ordered the upper part to be broken and the remainder to be transported to his residence, Ghaznin, with all its coverings and trappings of gold, jewels, and embroidered garments. Part of it has been thrown into the hippodrome of the town, together with the Cakrasvamin, an idol of bronze, that had been brought from Taneshar. Another part of the idol from Somanath lies before the door of the mosque of Ghaznin, on which people rub their feet to clean them from dirt and wet.”

The person who has written and published this article is stupid. Mr. Zakir Naik is following and conveying the message of peace. Those persons who have any doubt, they can read and understand their religious scriptures. Whatever Mr. Zakir Naik is saying, if it is against your religious scriptures, then do follow those things. Important point is understand your religious scriptures and live life according to the commandments. Even if you do not want to follow your religious scriptures then you will go to the hell.

If you are son of your mother then challenge Dr. Zakir Naik and have a debate with him. If you donot do that and misguiding people in this way. that means you are a bastard.

Very good comment, Brother what is difference between Veda follower & Islam Follower? Why Sanatan Religion follower consider God first teaching e.i. Veda eternal? They are foolish according to Kuran God is not perfect, that is why he always make amendments in his teachings. Latest amended teaching were sent by God through the help of Mohamad Sahab. Brother Indian please you make them understand that Allah is not perfect like Veda God. He amends his teaching as per ages. Allah is grateful to Mohamad, because without help of Mohamad allah could not send his teaching. Oh, very poor Allah of Kuran!

@truth seeker You just tell me if Allah comes to earth and show his magical power then, then everyone accept the religion. Allah showed good path for humanity through prophets. And its upon us to grasp it. All teaching are very clear for human beings. I think you should check it all. And then we will discuss.

Why does not then Allah come down to earth? Is He unable to do that? When He could come down from His Arsh to make earth as per Quran, why cant He come down again to teach the people on earth how to live?

There is nothing in our religious scriptures which says a person goes to hell just because he did not believe in god/his book. It is the deeds he did on earth which give their fruits in the next life.It is not his belief. Zakir Naik has given enough justification for terrorism. He could have least said something against killing innocent people in the name of religion.

Every one is son of their mothers (The statement should be if you are son of your fathers) . Please learn how to insult kafirs from your pakistani muslim friends. We have already challenged. See the site for challenge they made.

The person who published this is a scholar, you are stupid. What zakir naik says is against my religion, he openly abuses my religion, thats why I hate him. Now you dont like that, I hate you too. Now what I do with my religious scriptures in MY problem, not zakir khalnayak or you. Respect my way of life, or be prepared to face the flak,

Brother INDIAN , If Zakir Naik is son of his mother then ask him to accept to debate with Arya Samaj and you know what he never replies to Arya samaj since when Arya Samaj has defeated Tariq Aziz his Guru and a orator of peace T.V … Don’t you have a sense that Zakir Naik only ask people to follow ISLAM and Quran and does not believe in other religious scriptures , isn’t is Farting like … How can i or everyone disbelieve on their own religion and faith and accept Islam just for sake of Heaven , you know what if I embrace Islam just for heaven and 72 virgins after death then islam will make my life hell until i m alive …. This is true so don’t poke your filthy nose in other religion to convert them in a Most Violent and inhuman religion … hope you Understood …..

The person who has written and published this article is stupid. Mr. Zakir Naik is following and conveying the message of peace. Those persons who have any doubt, they can read and understand their religious scriptures. Whatever Mr. Zakir Naik is saying, if it is against your religious scriptures, then do follow those things. Important point is understand your religious scriptures and live life according to the commandments. Even if you do not want to follow your religious scriptures then you will go to the hell.

Yes you are right, People who are following Kuran, killing the Kafr is first & last mission of Kuran follower & Jakir naik. Kuran clearly allow kill the non-believer and Idol worshiper. Osama was the great Jihadi of Islam. Islam should proud on him. I request to all Muslim, support Osama and take avenge of Osama death from Kufr. Islam need today more Osama to establish Islam in world.

Jihad means fight for ourselves, other peoples (For Humanity). You people think that Islam needs violence then it means you are very poor in history and u have fake knowledge or you just believed in ears. Go Go take full knowledge not only about Islam but also yours too.

If Islam need violence then all peoples even you are also one of the follower it. You just want to satisfied yourself by doing this type of activities. You know that you are nothing.

Abe shaane, Islam is based on violence against non-muslims and I can give you proof, NOt poor in history and fake knowledge.

My hindu dharma and community was wiped out from pakistan and bangladesh and now kashmir, go to kashmir and see for yourself the desecrated temples, and then tell me why shouldnt I hate islam. I have false knowledge moron? And you got true knowledge?

owee y r u so afraid ahahhahaha …are not u thinking that islam is overpowering ya religion that’s y many of tv channels shows abut ya fake religion ..yup u have false knowelege insane …then tell me abut shiv wteva he ruined the world when sati was bured it means wheneva u have girlfriend and his father doesnt want thsi religion u demolish and cut off his head hahahhaha …itna gussa bhagwan khud par control nahi kar sakta and he is so helpless that he couldnt save his girl freind ,,Shiva sensed this catastrophe, and his rage was incomparable. He created Virabhadra and Bhadrakali, some call as [Manbhadra], two ferocious creatures who wreaked havoc and mayhem on the scene of the horrific incident. Nearly all those present were indiscriminately felled overnight. Daksha himself was decapitated. horrified me also hahhaha “Hatred and anger leads to unhappiness, pain and misery. So, one should always be soft-spoken and all ‘karma-yogis’ should tread on the path of righteousness.”

Well, Shiva might have been short tempered, but your prophet was most merciful of all who killed people when they simply opposed him in words (not in actions). He spared none, not even old women and children. Those killings must have been ordained by your merciful Allah is not it?. Islam is verily the religion of peace that gives rise to peaceful people who spread peace the world over. And hence we have a peaceful Pakistan and Afghanistan in our vicinity. Peace also reigns supreme in most of the Islamic countries. Waah re! piss-full Islam. And yes, people world over are afraid of the peaceful overtures of your piss-full people and want to counter them.

@kalbhairav: I can understand your love for hate; but please relax, go back, and go through my previous mail and try to figure out what heaven, turned-hellhole by Hindus, i belong to. 🙂

@ Vajra: Believe me it does, my friend! 🙂 Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH), or his Sahabas (companions) did not belong to any sect. Please understand that sect means a group. It shouldn’t have a name other than Muslim. What my beloved Prophet (PBUH) meant was that there would be one group who would follow the right path (And Allah know best). And like i already said, people of most major religions have been fighting amongst themselves over religious differences. Believe me many fight over more fundamental concepts than the kind that separate a deobandi from a wahabi etc. Btw, your interest in my salvation is appreciated! 🙂

@ Rushmore : Please understand the simple fact that what Arabs do or think does not necessarily represent what Islam preaches. We all know not just this but many other flaws in the Arab society and way of thinking; just as we know so many bad things about so many Christians (even priests) and so many Hindus. How would you like to be considered a part/representative of some particular group of Hindus, eg the terrorist Shiv Sena (Army of the Shiv!!)? So, why dont you stop looking at the bad examples, of which there are plenty in every religion. Not only is this not working, it might do your argument more harm than good! 🙂

We know it was precisely the Hindu ‘religion’ that divided the Hindu society into castes. Many Muslims of today may disapprove of sects other than their own, but they dont consider people belonging to them as ‘created inferior’ or inferior by birth, as is the case in Hindu religion. We dont have shudars (untouchables) and brahmans.

Oh, and Christians and others never fought amongst themselves over religious differences!?

Now you want me to start talking about genocide? You have no idea that Muslims have been one of the biggest sufferers of systematic and most brutal ethnic cleansing the world has seen. Heard of a place called Bosnia? Or why go that far, go ask the first Kashmiri (the first you see in Kashmir i challenge you!) what he thinks about your Hindus’ than (the place for Hindus!).. or open the history book to find out how the Christains gave Spain a bath with Muslims’ blood, or how Iraq lost millions of Muslims in the name of the now officially-accepted error-of-judgement, or discover that more than 20% (the lowest quoted figure is 10%) of Afghanistan was completely destroyed by Soviet Union and millions of Musims were killed just because the SU felt uncomfortable with the new regime there (imagine SU’s size and might, and the ‘danger’ the poor Afghanistan could pose to them); and then the carpet bombing that killed thousands of people who didnt even know who had arrived and why! I could go on and on if you want…

But why worry; your conscience is clean! Its Muslims blood after all; so why care. Keep saying to yourself “i am told the Muslims used the sword and thats how they got to number about a billion! And even now Islam is one of the fastest growing religion in the world because of the sword (etc) (talk of being obsessed!) (btw, i didnt say ‘the fastest’ which is widely acknowledged because you may come up with some figures from somewhere to say no, its the second or the fifth fastest!) Its growing rapidly, thats sufficient for the argument.

I thought it’d have dawned onto you by now that the sword does NOT have the potential to create the second biggest religion of the world. We have an endless list of preachers, saints, sufis who went to many parts of the world and spread the message! Its time you gave hate some time off and replace some of it with logic. You’ll immediately feel the difference in your perspective! 🙂

Oh, btw, i am more than eager to hear your version of the spread of Islam in the Sub-continent! And i really hope it’ll be an interesting one! 🙂

Once again, most Muslims, like myself, think Dr Naik and many others are doing a wonderful job, and they are highly appreciated and respected by us Muslims, irrespective of the sect we belong to (except a few people of course, i agree).

BTW, desperation of this website’s creator is made so obvious by the fact that out of the 990 or so posts here, (this small figure itself says a lot about the site’s popularity), most are auto-messages telling us to visit some hate-website to see even more hatred being spread against Mr Naik!!

@AmericanMuslim: I think you are desperate to prove that all Muslims love zakir naik. I can understand your desperation ( birds of same feather flock together).

>>>most Muslims, like myself, think Dr Naik and many others are doing a wonderful job

Can I know what wonderful work zakir naik is doing? keeping aside non existing god, what help is he doing to mankind?

Don’t be sooooo desperate to prove all Muslims love khal naik, and stop using the argument of “desperate”. Agniveer site does not ask you to come and read it. you came and argued that indicates that you are irritated and desperate to prove other wise(by your own logic).

I can understand your love for hate; but please relax, go back, and go through my previous mail and try to figure out what heaven, turned-hellhole by Hindus, i belong to. 🙂

Nice try making Hindus the guilty party in J&K. My point still stands. Scores of Muslims escape from Iran/Iraq/Egypt/Syria/Indonesia to prosper in the West taking advantage of the open society there. They leave their home country *because* of Islam and when pointed out say that oh, our home countries never followed true Islam…If only US/UK would follow true Islam (whatever that is) would there be peace on earth.

@kalbhairav : wow! onto personal attacks now, are we? Fine! Ok then.. i am here for the same reason that so many of your Dharti-Maa-loving Hindus are! (And btw, dont worry too much about me. I am practicing my religion as freely as i want to here, and watching it spread slowly and peacefully, and doing the best i can to serve it.) And now that you’ve mentioned it, I basically hail from a place called Srinagar, symbol of injustice and tyranny for the whole world, and most certainly NOT A PART OF INDIA!! 🙂

@Vajra : Peace to you too! I am a Muslim.. should suffice. 🙂 My beloved Prophet (SAW) wanted the Muslims to remain united. But i do agree that there are many sects of Muslims today, something i neither denied nor appreciate. If you ask me, i do wish Muslims werent divided, but they are, like people of so many of the major religions of the world. For a moment, look around you.. ok who do you trust? Wikipedia good enough? or take any neutral source of your choice. Try to find out how many sects (types) of Christians there are.. how many kinds of Jews..how many castes of Hindus! Lets not be naive please. As for Christians, they differ on the Most Fundamental concepts of their religion, ie trinity, concept of God, concept of eternal sin etc, and yes they have been fiercely fighting over them too. You need a lot of time to grasp the true extent of the war of the Churches (that goes on even today). And what have Hindus have been doing ‘to each other’ on the basis of the caste-system, the world knows. (Oh you think its over, do you?)

@sdc : This spread-by-the-sword nonsense has been answered and refuted so many times that if you still arent convinced, you wont ever be! But wait a minute, if you are implying that the 500 million+ of us in the Sub-Continent were also ALL converted by the sword, then God help you! Really!! I recommended you stop reading your centuries-old narrow minded anti-Islam literature, and get into reading some real history! Truth is, almost all of Islam that spread in this region was through Saints, Sufis and Preachers! You wont happen to know Hazat Ali Hijveri, Khwaja Moin, Hazrat Ijmeri, Shah Rukne Alam and hundreds more, would you? May i recommend you take some time out and study their lives and the kind of amazing influence they had on people (any book would do, hopefully). How the Hindus that were for centuries betrayed and victimized by the most oppressive Hindu caste-system were attracted towards Islam’s message of love and peace and converted to Islam is obvious, logical and well documented! (But i know you wont bother!) 🙂

(And btw, whoever told you that spread of Islam died down after initial 200-300 years is in for a shock the moment he finds out whats happening in the West right now, especially after 9/11!) And world over too, despite of the clever Christian tactic of blackmailing and converting poor Africans to Christianity by giving the starving people food n stuff put on a cross!

Finally, if you are bent upon hating Islam i really wont want to stop you. And i mean that!

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.”

Sure there are Indian Hindus in the West, as are Parsis, as are Israeli Jews, etc. The difference is that none of these folks want to see a Hindu USA, Parsi USA or Jewish USA. They are wise enough to realize that their religion is a *personal* affair and ought to play no role in governing a diverse country. It seems to be a unique preoccupation of Muslims in the West that they want a country ruled by Shariah…Damn…didnt you or your parents run from the same hell-hole that was created *because* of Shariah? So, your analogy is flawed.

“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.”

Either you havent read/understood the Quran/Hadiths or you must have a monstrous burden on your back. Which is it?

well said Kalbhairav. Years of mind numbing doctrine has caused intellectual paralysis in american muslim. I am not sure, in which hell kafir like will go , but he is already in the hell hole of ignorance , arrogance and damn right stupidity.

Do you know about the prophecy of Muhammad regarding splitting of his Ummah into 73 sects and only one having passport to Jannat? So in such case, the only question is that how do you know you belong to that sect? Every sect claims itself to be true and others to be false!

And if being Muslim suffices then being human too suffices by the same logic

@ American Muslim: I am glad that you are practicing your faith freely in the States. I am sure you know that the US isquite an open country and respects many a culture. Infact I have seen foot baths in the airport @ Indianapolis that enables Muslims to wash theselves to perform their prayers.

At the same time, without going down the dead logic of 2+2=4, can you explain why Arab nations are so insecure about letting other faiths preactice and propagate their faiths freely?If they are cock sure that their way to salvation is the right way,what’s wrong with allowing a few Churches or Synagogues to be present in an Arab city. When night clubs and wine flows freely in these glittering cities (which are haram in Islam) why are the Arabs so insecure about letting a non-Muslim practice his faith freely, in their land.

And Islam having been spread by the sword is not non-sense. Have you had a chance to read Islamic history through Arab sources themselves? It is not as if Persians willingly fell in love with Islam or that North Africans flocked into Islam. For now, I am keeping this discussion neutral by not bringing in the history of subcontinent. We will discuss that in detail later. Meanwhile, the nomadic Arabs were partly civilized only after they saw Persian culture. But like what Spaniards did to Latin America, Arabs successfully Arabized Persia to the letter, literally. The Persian script was Arabized in 9th century. And Arab aristocracy (the nomads became aristocrats by aping Persian society) unleashed barbarism against Persians, whom, the Arabs though were barbaric. I can go on and on and list down incidents of mass genocides with timeline and geography of Arabic/Islamic brutality on Parsis & Bahais. Unlike Cyrus, the great Persian emperor,who won battles but respected local religion/customs, Arabs were all about Arabizing/Islamizing Persians. So much for equality in Islam…Today the youth of Iran have covertly started de-Islamizing themselves and are reaching back to their original roots.So there you go..

Where North Africa is concerned, the headcount of the people, the flourishing trade between N.Africa and Europe and the local cultures were all wiped out by maruading Muslims from Arab mainland. Tripoli was sacked in 666 AD and after that the blood laced Islamization of North Africa never stopped. I can once again add more genocides that were unleashed by Arabs with local converts in parts of Africa. There are many Arab resources that have documented these conquests and mass murders.

Now there are schisms within every faith. You yourself have stated the same about Islam too. A presbyterian or a methodist is still a Xtian. A sudra or a vysya is still a Hindu . But why are Shias and Ahmedeyas not even considered to be a Muslim? Given you are a Kashmiri, there is a greater chance of you beliving in Sufi or Shiite ethos (I could be wrong). Please check with Arabs that you know whether Shias are at par with Sunni Arabs? Arabs get upset even about saying Khuda Hafiz. So much repsct for Ummah….

A Christian can walk away from Church, a Hindu can call himself an atheist but why does fiqh of Islam get an apostate killed? The poponents of both pro / anti capital punishment use the same sources of Quran and Hadiths to make their cases. Would one of your Muslim friends be able to state in a Mosque that he is leaving Islam and get away with it. Even in the US,a free non-Islamic country, his life will always be endangered. Can a Wafa Sultan or a Salman Rushdie walk past the Islamic center on Virgil Avenue, Los Angeles, CA, without being attacked?

Srinagar, symbol of injustice and tyranny for the whole world, indeed it is. So, who doubts it, not me. Remember the entire hindu community was traumatized and systematically uprooted from their home and hearth. BTW, KASHMIR IS AN INTEGRAL PART OF INDIA.

Well, hindus have definitely brought great misfortune upon themselves by inventing this caste system, and they definitely had to pay for this. What about the muslims? Have they not been killing each other on sectarian grounds? We hear of bomb blasts in sufi shrines almost every week in your beloved Pakistan. And yes, you definitely don’t have shudars (untouchables) and brahmans, but you have mawalis, and you are one, isn’t it, serves you right, eh.

So, what you say about the spread of islam is right and the rest is all propaganda? So, you are the self-appointed judge, jury, and the hangman, all rolled in one. And the spread-by-the-sword theory is nonsense. Fine, I at least do not claim to be a know-all scholar. Let me also recommend you a reading of magna opera like the Chachnama, Baburnama, written none other than by muslims of course, also do make it a point to read about blood-thirsty conquistadors like Mahmud ghazni, muhammad ghori, timur lane, nadir shah, ahmad shah abdali, iltutmish, allaudin khilji, etc., but I also know that you won’t bother.

I did not say that islam died down after 200-300 years, and hence no shock for me there. I only said that the rate of spread of islam has terribly weakened to the point that even with thousands of daee’s like Zakir Naik, the whole world is still not darul islam (and take it from me, it will never be so).

Christians may be cleverly giving food on the cross, but muslims gave islam at the tip of the sword. So, why grumble? At least, they are better than you guys when it comes to propagation of faith.

Bro…Profound question indeed. I suggest you contemplate on any commentary of the Brahmasutras to get a sense of the Hindu idea of God.

But I am fairly confident that God is not the one mentioned in the Quran bro 🙁 I find the God of the Quran highly discriminative, jealous, petty and foolish enough to supposedly entrust his entire Truth to one messenger after another finally culminating in Mohammed (PBUH) and supposedly decreeing that anyone who does not believe in “La Ilaha Il Allah Mohammed Rasool Allah” is hell-bound. 🙁 These are not qualities I would like to associate with my God. My God needs to be even-handed, confident and wise. The Vedic God is all of that and more bro!

@ Kal Bhairav: One of Sayed’s friends started something like this on the islamhinduism website in the comments section of the distorted post what is hinduism. Now that same person has indirectly conceded by showing an evidence himself that Allah existed much before islam. The inference obviously is that Allah was a pagan God.

Now that same person has indirectly conceded by showing an evidence himself that Allah existed much before islam. The inference obviously is that Allah was a pagan God.

Good point. The internal contradictions that Muslims run into would be enough to make my head explode! I wonder how they manage 😉

The usual line Muslims give is, even before Mohammed’s birth, Islam was there. In fact, Adam and Eve were the first Muslims according to them. So, they have to end up issuing death threats to anyone who supports Darwinism because it completely shakes the foundation of their faith leading to its destruction.

They also claim everybody is a born Muslim. When questioned whether a new-born baby has any clue of Mohammed Rasool Allah, they shut up. 🙂

Very swift and equally desperate replies by non-Muslims (including those POSING to be Muslims!) prove my point 100%! Most Muslims like Dr Zakir; Most non-Muslims hate him. Simple. Come out in the open you guys. Stop this propaganda and such conspiracies. And listen (AGAIN)… NO, WE MUSLIMS (SHIA OR SUNNI OR WAHHABI OR OTHERS DO NOT (R) DO NOT HATE ANYONE WHO SPREADS THE MESSAGE OF GOD)!! Want me to repeat that?? God, you guys are either too frustrated by the spread of Islam or in serious denial!! And, for your info, the logical option for any of you non-Muslims to have an open debate with Dr Naik on any tv channel of the world is still open! 🙂

But i do agree with sdc, you hindus sure are desperate to stop him in his tracks! 🙂 By all means, do; but see if you can outdo him the civilized way , ie through speeches in front of voluntary audiences! By the way, i hope you guys know that many Hindu scholars, preachers and saints accept and acknowledge Dr Naik’s caliber and good work. (Now please dont tell me all those people are. . . )

And also keep in mind that Islam started with ZERO followers in your Bharat, and now they are ALHAMDOLILLAH more than 500 million in the” Sub-continent”!! Even wondered what the biggest reason for that miraculous spread of Islam is?.. It is THIS kind of attitude of the Hindus, the kind this article portrays… Narrow-mindedness, denial, treachery and intolerance towards others, which only makes people abandon you, no doubt so many people are accepting Islam in India even today despite this kind of venomous propaganda! So keep at it.. i REALLY wish you do (this kind of stuff only makes our job easier!) 🙂

( BTW, here in the USA, Dr Naik is already very popular and respected.)

While you are enjoying the prosperity of west, Mujahideen of Islam belonging to different sects Shia, Sunni, Barelvi, Deobandi, Wahabi here in Asia are slitting throats of each other 🙁 Now who will give them your message that “SHIA OR SUNNI OR WAHHABI OR OTHERS DO NOT (R) DO NOT HATE ANYONE WHO SPREADS THE MESSAGE OF GOD”

Only meaning an Asian can extract from your quote who is well aware of sectarian bloodshed among Muslims is that neither of Shia or Sunni or Wahabi is spreading message of peace because they hate each other, they kill each other 🙁

“And also keep in mind that Islam started with ZERO followers in your Bharat, and now they are ALHAMDOLILLAH more than 500 million in the” Sub-continent”!!”

Now, tell me why is it that islam spread so expeditiously in the first 200-300 years, but then it’s spread somewhat slackened and then eventually died down. Why? The answer is simple: Islam spread by the sword. No person in his good senses would embrace such dehumanizing philosophy. By the way, the miraculous spread of islam can also be attributed to the internecine rivalry between kings, the bane of caste system, the spread of nonviolent philosophies like buddhism and jainism, etc.

Civilized way? The problem is Zakir represents the intellectual face of islamic terrorism. He is out there to justify the terrorist activities of muslims by projecting them as victims of circumstances and also trying to hoodwink the masses about the true face of islam. Apparently, he has named his dawaah channel, Peace TV. Can you see the irony in this?

BTW, here in the USA, Dr Naik is already very popular and respected. Among whom?

Brother , you said that national t.v is always open to debate with Zakir Naik , But instead you browse http://www.youtube.com/truthofwisdom2008 where Mehendra Pal Arya challenged Zakir Naik several times , but instead of having debate he haven’t replaind him since 2008 , and which religion Hinduism is afraid and insecure of . Its simple Logic Evil spreads on eye blink but its takes thousands of years to prove truth , this is what story of Islam .

We Hindus never advertise our religion as if its a daily soap which has to be used to become fairer , the same way Islam propagates and advertise its religion through T.V. shows , internet , newspaper , posters ,etc .. see how much insecure you guys are that you need to spread it as soon as possible ..

your authentic Quran says Allah has shape and size in several place , it says Allah made Adam of his own hand , he made Adam in his own form , on judgement day he will be seated in a crown and 8 angels will carry it etc then why you guys say Allah is shapeless, and most important you guys trust islam and Allah becouse its written in Quran , and you have to . Islam not even give authority to decide what is right and wrong becouse its written in Quran that whatever mentioned in Quran is authentic and true and muslims believe as fools without any proof .

MUSLIM BROTHERS do you know PROPHET MOHAMMAD PROPHESIED ABOUT “NAJD WOLF” ZAKIR NAIK AND HIS NAJD SHAITAN MASTERS WAHHABIS IN SAHIH HADITHS AND OTHER HADITHS.

Allah and Prophet Mohammad warned Muslims against Shaitan of Najd (Wahhabis) and its Stooges like Zakir Naik who will divide Ummah, who recite Quran but Quran will not go beyond their throat, who will kill or support killers of Muslim etc see below verses.

Narrated Ibn ‘Umar: The Prophet (s)said, “O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen.” The People said, “And also on our NAJD.” He said, “O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham (north)! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen.” The people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! And also on our NAJD.” I think the third time the Prophet (s) said, “There (in NAJD) is the place of earthquakes and afflictions and from there comes out the side of the head of Satan.” Sahi Bukhari (Book #88, Hadith #214)

Allama Dahlan narrates an authentic Hadith in his book “Addarus Sunniah”, which he has quoted from Sihaah. The Holy Prophet (Sallalaahu Alayhi Wasallam) is reported to have said: “There will rise a group of people in the East who will recite the Holy Quran, but alas, the Quran will not go beyond their throat. This group will keep rising till the Day of Judgement and they will eventually rise with Dajjal.” “Their main symbol will be to sit in groups.” (Halqa) (from Bukhari Sharief, Vol. iii)

Zakir Naik has divided the Ummah along the lines of Wahhabi, Sunni, Shias, Sufis and Ahmadiyas. He supported Bin Laden who killed many Muslims. Zakir Naik’s getup only shows that he follows Quran till throat below throat he wears Kufr western clothes and not following Sunnah clothes. Zakir Naik speaks hours and hours of lecture to wear Hijab and Sunnah clothing to woman and others but himself never wears Sunnah Clothing at Public. . Even DEOBANDIS ADVOCATES THIS TRUTH ABOUT WAHHABIS AND ZAKIR NAIK.

1. This article is very poorly put together and lacks logic and facts! Seems to be nothing more than a haphazard mix of things picked up from here and there against someone very popular and successful (and hence considered very dangerous by the already insecure!). Dr Naik is very well known, and highly respected around the world, especially here in the USA, as well as in India! And, sorry to expose ur blatant lie, but he is highly popular amongst many Shias ( i know that ‘coz i have many Shia friends) and is really respected by Muslim women! A little amount of “real” research would tell you that many women have accepted Islam after listening to Dr Zakir’s lectures.

2. CONTRARY TO WHAT THE WRITER IS DESPERATE TO IMPLY, most of the anti-Zakir and anti-Muslim comments posted here are by non-muslims, so u know who ACTUALLY hates who and WHY! 🙂

To sum it up, the reason why SOME NON-MUSLIMS HATE him and WE MUSLIMS RESPECT him is the same! He is spreading Islam!! And is ALHAMDOLILLAH, very successful at what he is doing, as the jealousy and hate expressed here shows !!

(I wish u guys had done half of this research into ur own religion. As for us Muslims, whether we r Shia, Sunni, Wahabi or whoever, we love Allah, His Messenger and His Religion. And anyway, Dr Naik is not alone, there are thousands like him preaching Allah’s message. Now go spread hate against them all ! 🙂 So Sit back, take a deep breath . . .

Who do you think are insecure? And, who is considered dangerous? I think you have got your conjectures awfully wrong. The very fact that “secure” people like you have to come to this site and go on parroting those hackneyed phrases over and over again (viz. islam is spreading, zakir naik is loved by all, your research is shoddy, etc. etc.) tells the story.

And why do think there is only 1 agniveer, we all are agniveers, and we are determined to stop the juggernaut of islam from rolling any further. We are going to stop it dead on its tracks.

a sweeping statement, rather. A few conversions here or there do not change demographics significantly, but yes the rate at which muslims procreate is definitely something to be taken into account when doing the math.

Why mansoor al hillaj ,a sufi saint was killed? how can your zakir naik defend his killing in the name of allah….because mansoor was talking about higher level of religion get killed by followers of osl.

HA HA …It’s funny to see that U HAVE DONE SO MUCH RESEARCH IN ISLAM…When u had enough time to talk so much bad about Zakir Naik ..Y dont u spend some time to read the benefits of ISLAM..and there are loads of excellent video lectures that Dr.Zakir Naik has given..We appreciate his Work Mashaalah..MAY ALLAH Forgive all the wrong doers..It is not the muslims who hate Dr.Zakir ..It is people like you who envy his growth and evny the spread of our Religion..

@pearlsweet – It seems from your recation that you have lost your mind. First you laugh on someone saying that he has done extensive research on Dr. Zakir Naik . What’s there 2 laugh in this ? Bcoz you don’t have an answer / explanation to the frauds being exposed, so you trying 2 divert attention by reacting in such a manner which exhibits utmost stupidy. Then if it all bogus then why don’t you have an explanation to the faruds being exposed. Its because of mindless and spineless people like you that such frauds possess the support and courage to carry out their fraudulent activities. I hope that you know what Islam and the holy Quran says about frauds and their supporters ! I advice you please go through the relevant pages.

to dear all muslim brothers, why you all sing only one tune, dont you see , even after murder of over one crore infidels, by Islamist invaders, you are much behind, pl see the difference in people of Iran, Zoroastrians, who left to be converted into islam luckily, and iranians who converted to islam, they belong to one race, but hell lot of difference in approach, only because of islam approach, even highly secular people are feeling that till a single muslim is alive, the world can not rest in peace

guidance from god comes as a mercy and grace . It is the result of each one’s inner desire to know about his own creator. if one prays in the late hours of night to his own creator ,with stongest desire to know about Him ,god will help him. Feelings about the god is there in evrybody ‘s inner self since birth,whatever be his religion.some allow it to flurish.some allow it to be extinguished. Truth never cannot be created with one’ s self made ideas and imaginations.it flowed to human mind thru generations thru millions of prophets. not thru self made incarnees. READ ALL SCRIPTURES WITHOUT PREJUDICE , THRUTH WILL FLOW TO YOU GOD IS ONE,HE NEVER BEGETS,NEVER BEGOTTEN,THERE IS NOTHING LIKE HIM GOD WILL FORGIVE ALL SINS EXCEPT SHIRK, IDOL WORSHIP AND CLAIMING PARTNERS TO GOD HE IS ONE AND THERE IS NOTHING LIKE HIM

Good answer adolf. This allah is some kind of devil who is afraid of idols, what kind of false god is he, who is afraid if we hindus worship false idols? Tat means, inter alia he is false god. Or COWARDLY god. And his followers are cowards.

My answer is in reply to hashim – for his statement that shirk and idol worship will not be forgiven by God. I do not have any intention on my part to tell you or any muslims that you are going in a wrong way or to make you feel bad because you believe something which i do not believe.

I am a hindu by birth and want to know one good reason why idol worship is bad and why god will not forgive me if am an idol worshipper?

How can god forgive someone who is a killer and not accpet me who is just an idol worshipper? Can killing be equated to idol worship?

Also could you please explain the concept of eternal hell.

What good it serves for either god or for anybody else to throw me in eternal hell just because i do idol worship? Can god really be given name as mercifull?

In Islam, it is given that every thing can be forgiven by god if we pray for the wrong doings we have done in this world. The only thing, God will never forgive is that, if we compare God.

You too know, God is incomparable. With your full mind, if u can imagine the shape of GOD, then that ill not be GOD.

You think that GOD who created you will be imaginable. Then tat ill be not GOD. And also in Vedas, It is said that, i think so Its In Rigveda , “GOD IS IMAGELESS”

GOD in the name of Jesus or Ram or Allah is far supreme from human thoughts. This has been said by many scholars.

Few years back, a famous english channel had a one on one meeting with our famous hindu scholar. He said “PARTIAL KNOWLEDGE IN SCIENCE MAKES YOU AWAY FROM GOD. INDEPTH KNOWLEDGE IN SCIENCE MAKES YOU A BELIEVER IN GOD.”. This is the statement he gave.

If you are a believer of Hereafter(Judgement day), a killer or rapist will be definitely be given punishment in the day of judgement.

Any wrong thing you do in this world will be surely punished in JD(Judgement Day).

That’s y, we are worshiping Allah who is incomparable. That’s what Islam says.

Many think tat we are worshiping Kabah in mecca. Tats totally wrong. Our beloved prop. mohamed pbuh has united us to the side of Kabah. Tats the only reason we worship to the direction of Kabah,

Forgive me, If i said anything which could hurt your feelings.

I have a English Veda with me. I will make a research in Vedas and will let you know about the same. In mean time, you can also do the same.

I will get back to you real quick. I just want to get the people know islam better. Want to banish the misconception about Islam(The Religion of Peace).

You are parroting the same islamic garbage. Worship only one god allah, dont worship idols. Now who are you or any muslim to tell me that? You respect my way of life, then only I respect yours. You people dont respect my idols, and want to insult them, and (possibly ) break them and then you people complain of discrimination, riots etc. And please, forget what god will do to me on day of judgement. It is between me and my god, no muslim needs to tell me. And please dont read or translate the vedas, theere are enough idiots like zakir naik who do that, and infuriate me.

Learn to love, live in harmony….do not hurt another persons feelings and all should be OK. I agree that there muslims who do wrong in the name of Islam. E.g. World Trade Centre bombings….if it was Bin-laden, I believe it is wrong period…Let the religion of Humanity continue.

Agree whole-heartedly. Let us take this to the next level by zeroing in on some fundamental issues.

I hope you do not condemn just the perpetrators of WTC bombings, Bin-laden etc. Hope you will stand with me in condemning the barbarity of invading hordes of Arabs/Turks/Mughals who killed Hindus/Buddhists in Nalanda and destroyed temples in Somnath, Varanasi and Mathura. Additionally I hope you will agree that any religion that believes it alone provides the sole means to the divine is wrong and hateful as it lays the philosophical foundation for terrorism. Such religions need to be provided with a new interpretation so that they dont divide the world into believers and infidels based on whether they believe in the exclusivity of the son of God or the last prophet, etc. Do you agree? Finally, I hope you will agree that religion should not form the basis of nationhood.

As far Salman Rushdie, another idiot in my opinion.

He may be arrogant and attention-seeking but his analysis of political Islam is pretty much spot on. BTW, I hope you believe in freedom of speech. As Ayaan Hirsi Ali puts it – “Free speech is the bedrock of liberty and a free society. And yes, it includes the right to blaspheme and to offend.” Do you agree with this? Would you also agree that Islamic countries that placed a bounty on his head are wrong and going against the principles of free speech?

Sure I agree to most of your comments however Freedom of speech does have it’s limitations. Start posting some crap on US President Obama or former George Bush and let thousands join in and see if they call that freedom of speech. Similarly if other religion members including mine and yours start making derogatory remarks of Jesus Christ. How would this make the Christians feel? Why was there a big uproar for the book “The Da Vinci Code” .At the end we are just hurting the next human being which is totally wrong and sickening.

Theres a difference and that is in the case of Islam, blasphemy and apostasy carry the weight of state-sanctioned death..

Sure there is outrage when a Christian cross is immersed in a jar of urine. Sure there is outrage when pictures of Ganesha are displayed on slippers/shoes. Do you see any country (US or India) call for the death of those who do this? Calling for the death of those who “insult” Islam seems to be a unique preoccupation of Muslim-majority countries.

Islam is badly in need of reinterpretation to make it compatible with 21st century human civilization. Good luck.

No. You are wrong. If we punish on earth for apostasy/blasphemy what will Allah do? He also needs to inflict some pain on disbelievers, no? I mean, what if the punishment a blasphemer gets makes him develop more immunity against punishment? Then Allah has to make his punishment even more stringent to make an impact on the blasphemer 🙁 Why trouble Allah?

Well, seriously I didnt go through your complete scribble… Anyway I got the point…. As every so called Dr.Zakir Naiks, fan knows what would be your basic topics of smear campaign…… Ok. coming back to the point – All the visitors of this website or for that matter Dr. Zakir Naiks or any other religious pedia…. dig deep… take your time…. You need not to make a decision within 5 min. of visiting any of these information centers…. Its a matter of a PHILOSOPHY which is going to shape your life further, or may your next generations…. so you are the crossroads to decide and take a decision… Well, so take time… I took almost 5 years to understand the things…. some of my friends took hardly 6 months….. !!! Whatever it is – finally u will find the truth….. !!! To find the truth people like Zakir naik or Agnivesh could be a key… and finally you will find the truth… be sincere to yourself… and when you venture to find out the truth, pray to the almighty the one who created you and this universe for Guidance…. !!!! Good luck…. Mr. Agnivesh, religion works purely on law of conservation…. Things will attain equilibrium, no matter how mcuh one tries to create imbalance….. Good lock to your efforts…. I am sure, TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL…!!!

I couldnt agree more. Can we have reciprocity then? In India Muslims are allowed to freely propagate their religion. Will you work towards providing the same freedom for non-Muslims in Momin-majority land? As of now, this is disallowed under Shariah and an apostate who has fallen in love with the message of the Vedas unfortunately cannot talk about it in public. 🙁 Do you see the asymmetry?

It appears that you like to think for yourself and arrive at conclusions without outsourcing this critical thinking to idiots like Zakir Naik or anyone else. That is great!

Religion is a private affair and the conclusions one reaches are likewise private and non-extendible to another human being who may or may not share the same axioms that you began with.

As a Muslim I will not a criticize another religion nor question it. You have your choice and I have mines.

The problem with this is that the Quran/Hadiths themselves are highly judgemental/critical of non-Muslim faiths. So, if you as a Muslim will not criticize another religion nor question it, you are not following the Quran/Hadiths. You can blame me for trying to interpret your religion for you but it is not just me (as a Hindu) who is saying this. A growing number of ex-Muslims themselves say this – to mention a few – Wafa Sulta, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Salman Rushdie, etc.

Religion is understood by everyone in their own capacity. Like I said there a different levels after Shariah which majority of people don’t get to experience namely Tarikat, Marifat, Haqeeqat, Wahadanyat.

Learn to love, live in harmony….do not hurt another persons feelings and all should be OK. I agree that there muslims who do wrong in the name of Islam. E.g. World Trade Centre bombings….if it was Bin-laden, I believe it is wrong period.

Really? have muslims respected any other religion in the world till date? ur religion asks its followers to threaten/kill/murder/rape anyone who doesnt follow Islam. thats the approach of ur religion towards other religions…and u want other religions to respect Islam?

Wake up dude…splash some water on ur face, go for a walk and re-think of all the crap you have written above.

First of all what is mentioned in this article is totaly wrong, person who write such article did not aware about islam, this is challenge proove any thing wrong what zakir naik says, show me any this against quran and hadith, if muslim hate this person why why his peace tv running on demand of public in Pakistan.

Zakir Naik is a big terrorist too. He preaches dangerous principles. i heard one of his lectures where he justified beating wife, threatening non-Muslims. This is a very systematic, slow and strategic way of spreading violence, distrust and creating tensions between these 2 religions.

….I would love to be martyred in Allah’s Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred….

Agniveer has gone BANANAS!!! he bieng a typical Indian FANATIC is opponent of Dr Zakir. His hatred for the other religions has compelled him to write this article. Hey Agniveer, the 72+ sects in Islam will go to Heaven. U & alike will go to HELL.

Tall claim indeed. Care to provide this small thing called PROOF? And no…quoting the Quran to prove its veracity is called circular logic and is flawed. Got anything else? No? Shucks…there…you fail yet again 🙁

Interesting to know that all of them (Sunni, Shia, Barelvi, Devbandi, Wahabi, Sufi, Qadiyani….. up to 72) blowing each other’s mosques and graves all over in the sectarian violence will be in heaven together 🙁

Who knows the victims of the bombings here may take revenge in the heaven from the fellow dwellers 🙁 Bomb, fire, knife, sword etc in heaven too! May Allah give me hell instead, at least there wont be any suicide bombing and stabbing

Anyway, here is what Muhammad has to say about who will be in heaven-

“Abdullah bin Amarra relates that the Holy Prophet (SA) said- …. but my people will be divided into 73 sects, ALL OF THEM WILL BE IN FIRE EXCEPT ONE.’ The companions asked. ‘Who are they O Messenger of Allah,’ Holy Prophet (pbuh) said. `They are those who will be like me and my companions.’ (Tirmidhi – Kitabul Eeman)

I have never read more bullshit in my life. Everything listed here is either out of context of pure bias. im not wahabi and i dont hate zakir. I watch videos of zakir and have followed him for years. So im surei know more about him than some random critic islamophobe who doesnt know his place.

And we never heard more “bullshit”, than Naik’s speeches in our lives. Everything he said about hindu scriptures especially Vedas is pure nonsense, but you would not understand this since people like you have been blindly following him for years. Not only he is misleading non muslims, but muslims as well otherwise take a look how many FATWAS have been issued against him. Despite being a doctor (probably earned his degree using his terrorist links and having a Madarsa education), has no knowledge of science. He may fool illiterate people who do not understand english, but he cannot fool us. You cannot do anything now, your Naik has been exposed inside out on this site, moreover, many years back Arya Samaj challenged Naik for an open house debate accomodating his schedules innumerable times but Naik has been hiding in his rat hole all this time.

None of them are against him except for a handful for whom he poses an ego issue as they do not stand anywhere near him in terms of knowledge. I belong to Deoband School of Thought and I know 99 percent of the people who support him. So far I have yet to come across anyone who is against him. The against him is all propaganda by the saffron brigade to play divisive politics.

“He considers himself a servant of Muhammad (pbuh)” < Your first mistake in your first paragraph. Your article is full of errors.

These 72+ "sects" are not out to kill each other and everyone else, there are some misguided individuals that may think that, but thats where they are deviating from Islam. There is only 1 Islam, but people have different levels of sin, and this is what differentiates us all, and we do not know who is going to heaven or hell. See if any of these 72+ "sects" disagree with this?

Oh. So, it is possible an apostate who leaves Islam could not burn in eternal hell forever and can actually enjoy heaven? If true, could you please clarify why the punishment for apostasy under Shariah is death? Is the Mullah here wrong?

@Tariq Brother your allah and prophet Mohammad has warned and prophecised not follow Dajjal and Shaitan like Wahhabis and Zakir Naik who will divide Ummah on the basis of Shia, Sunni, Sufi ahmadiya’s etc and is responsible for killing of many muslims. Your Allah curses all the land where wahhabis or wahhabis ideology goes like Afghanistan which is more wahhabist compared to Saudi Arabia itself and now see the destruction of Pakistan, which is turning from Sufi to Wahhabi ideology.

Your Prophet Mohammad has prophesied to be beware of those person who will follow Koran till Throat they will gain more and more followers among Ummah but they are Dajjal who will lead to the destruction of Ummah and definitely he is refering to Zakir Naik because Zakir Naik matches that criteria very nicely ZAKIR NAIK FOLLOW KORAN ONLY TILL THROAT that is evident from his getup, below throat he is wearing Kufr western clothes instead of Muslim Sunnah clothes. Zakir Naik speaks hours and hours of lecture to wear Hijab and Sunnah clothing to woman and others but himself never wears Sunnah Clothing at Public.

assalam o allaikum all of u and i just wanna say that zakir naik speak every word from quran ….. so words can not be wrong & other dont say anything before listing & understanding the actual meaning said by dr. zakir naik………..

PROPHET ZAKIR NAIK OF SHAITAN AND HIS MASTERS WAHHABIS PROPHESIED IN SAHIH HADITHS AND OTHER HADITHS.

Allah and Prophet Mohammad warned Muslims against Wahhabis and its Stooges like Zakir Naik who will divide Ummah, who recite Quran but Quran will not go beyond their throat, who will kill or support killers of Muslim etc see below verses.

Narrated Ibn ‘Umar: The Prophet (s)said, “O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen.” The People said, “And also on our NAJD.” He said, “O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham (north)! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen.” The people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! And also on our NAJD.” I think the third time the Prophet (s) said, “There (in NAJD) is the place of earthquakes and afflictions and from there comes out the side of the head of Satan.” Sahi Bukhari (Book #88, Hadith #214)

Allama Dahlan narrates an authentic Hadith in his book “Addarus Sunniah”, which he has quoted from Sihaah. The Holy Prophet (Sallalaahu Alayhi Wasallam) is reported to have said: “There will rise a group of people in the East who will recite the Holy Quran, but alas, the Quran will not go beyond their throat. This group will keep rising till the Day of Judgement and they will eventually rise with Dajjal.” “Their main symbol will be to sit in groups.” (Halqa) (from Bukhari Sharief, Vol. iii)

Zakir Naik has divided the Ummah along the lines of Wahhabi, Sunni, Shias, Sufis and Ahmadiyas. He supported Bin Laden who killed many Muslims. Zakir Naik’s getup only shows that he follows Quran till throat below throat he wears Kufr western clothes and not following Sunnat . Even DEOBANDIS ADVOCATES THIS TRUTH ABOUT WAHHABIS AND ZAKIR NAIK.

According to SAHIH HADITHS ZAKIR NAIK is funded and an agent of of Satanic NAJD (Wahabism) and he is promoting Satanic Wahabism and the Muslims who are following Zakir Naik are following Shaitan.

Narrated Ibn ‘Umar: The Prophet (s)said, “O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen.” The People said, “And also on our NAJD.” He said, “O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham (north)! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen.” The people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! And also on our NAJD.” I think the third time the Prophet (s) said, “There (in NAJD) is the place of earthquakes and afflictions and from there comes out the side of the head of Satan.” Sahi Bukhari (Book #88, Hadith #214)

For more details on this see the below website and followers of Wahabism and Zakir Naik should think for themselves should they True God or Shaitan and this is how earlier Sufi Deoband sold their soul to Shaitan (Wahabism)

Dear friends Assalam-o-Alaikum Forwarding the mail received today from the IRF explaining various ways to watch Live Telecast of Zakir Naik’s Public debate on Friday. Watch Live Telecast of Dr. Zakir Naik’s Public Debate at The Oxford Union , UK , via satellite link from India on the topic “Islam and the 21st Century” on Friday, 11th February 2011, at 7.00 pm (GMT) exclusively on Peace TV and Peace TV Urdu (or on Mobile wap.peacetv.org or internet on http://www.peacetv.org) at 10.00 pm in Saudi Arabia at 11.00 pm in UAE at night 12.30 am (12th Feb. 2011) in India kindly inform others interested too.

The Oxford Union – a brief introduction

The Oxford Union, since 1823, is famous for promoting debate and discussion on vital topics of concern, not just in Oxford University but across the globe.

Dr. Zakir Naik will join a host of internationally famous speakers including current British Prime Minister David Cameron, Former British Prime Ministers Tony Blair, Margaret Thatcher and Winston Churchill, Former US Presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, Scientist Albert Einstein, famous personalities like the Dalai Lama, Prince Charles, Mother Teresa and film stars including Clint Eastwood, Stephen Fry and Pop star Michael Jackson… who have addressed the Oxford Union.”

Namaste wellsaid I saw last laughter show live many years ago, so thank you very much for informing me about the one tomorrw 🙂 it will be great fun to watch it after a long time. BTW if I remember correctly, last time too, the performer was same 🙂

I hope u had this madly act rolling on the floor to enter the show and millions of audience may have started looking at you, instead of watching ZN live, and that should have been your last laugh like you desired.

Zakir is the Original comedy King. Excellent stand-up comedian. He has Got the Looks, style and the laughter Script. I really enjoy his lies and utter stupidity. In Summary he is the COMIC Side of a Terrorist!

you are right brother, if Naik’s fanatic fans can clap when Naik dances and sings choruses on killing apostates and teaching 2+2=4 (the only math expression he knows) to justify propagation of non islamic faiths in an islamic socieity, what can be expected from his fanatic illiterate followers? Their followers can not understand simple logic so what will they understand in science? I really pity all Naik’s followers this is why I really hope that Naik gets exposed soon enough in India, so these same fans who clapped on his comic jokes will use their same hands to give Naik a beating for misleading them!

Namaste Brother Vik This terrorist mentor should have been arrested in India long ago but as you know, Hindus are known to feed snakes, they are continuing to let this hate monger preach his hatred throughout the nation.

Hindus and Muslims have to throw this man out of the country if they want to live peacefully.

Hindus are very soft in their nature as they believe in unity and brotherhood. Had hindus even been half fanatic as much as Naik’s followers, Naik would have either been thrown out or beaten the day he started to give out his comic lectures. But now times are changing, many hindus have been awaken thanks to sites like Agniveer.com where every hindu has been equipped with so much ammunition in the form of counter arguments that they will easily thrash Naik followers, and their mentors.

Namaste Brother, I was reading about the American History. I came across a BITTER Truth that they had been trying to hide from their young generation–It was the truth of the Massive Genocide (much more than World War 2 Jews) that the Early European settlers had committed on the “Native” Americans. The Simple natives lost their Land (snatched away from them through enacted laws thrust upon them), their honor (women were brutally raped), their identity (forced to convert to Christianity) and their lives.

It reminded me of our own India. How similarly were we placed. And if you carefully observe the same pattern of loot and marauding was followed by the Communists during invasion of Tibet when Over a Million Buddhist Monks were slaughtered in day light, their ancient libraries -containing wealth of knowledge- burnt to ashes (This included the Shaolin Temple library containing valuable literature on Kungfu).

Look at the Irony–The same people today lecture us on Secularism, liberty and “Human Rights”!!!