ceos, does the pessimism spell trouble forpresidentobamaandmaybe the rest of us also? president obama and mitt romney meanwhile battling it out in the swing state of ohio. john harwood joins us now with all the details. good evening, john. >> good evening, larry. you know, in the wake of that 47% video last week, mitt romney's got a new message and that's to tell middle class people as well as the poor that he cares about them. he did it on the stump in ohio today, he also did it in an interview with our nbc colleague ron allen just a few minutes ago. here's mitt romney. >> i served as a pastor of a congregation with people of all different backgrounds and economic circumstances that i care very deeply about the american people and people of different socioeconomic circumstances. and i think throughout this campaign, as well, we've talked about my record in massachusetts. don't forget, i've got everybody in my state insured. >> and here's some numbers, larry, that show you why that is mitt romney's message rather than tax cuts. you can't compare in the state of ohio where a new

both topresidentobamaandmitt romney campaigning there this afternoon. and there's more of a backdrop than just the early autumn trees. a brand new quinnipiac/cbs "new york times" poll has the president a full ten points ahead of romney in ohio. 53% to 43%. let's begin with cnn white house correspondent dan lothian. >> reporter: joe, even though a new poll shows the president with a double digit lead in ohio, mr. obama continues to push hard in the state. it's a huge priority for the campaign according to a top aide. by our count the president has visited ohio at least 13 times so far this year. this time ahead of early voting, which by the way begins next tuesday. now, today the president was again selling his policies and his record in a state he says has benefitted from the auto bailout. he talked about the thousands of jobs created but also hit china and went after his gop opponent. >> he's been talking tough on china. he says he's going to take the fight to them. he's going to go after these cheaters. and i've got to admit, that message is better than what he's actu

around the globe. we'll let you know what's happening up at the u.n. presidentobamaandmitt romney both in the key state of virginia yesterday. you can all relax because everything, once again is all right with the world. those good regular union refs are back on the job. they came out last night for the ravens/browns game up in baltimore. no more lingerie league rejects out on the field. how about it. okay. that and a whole lot more here on today's "full court press." but first the latest, today's current news update from lisa ferguson in los angeles. good morning. >> hey bill, good morning everyone. mitt romney is all over the map again today with a rally in pennsylvania and then a fund-raiser in massachusetts. his campaign has another $5 million after last night's fund-raiser in d.c. where romney explained his five steps to take america back. the first of which is to produce more oil and natural gas. >> romney: we have the capacity if we can take advantage of it and we build that pipeline from

theobamaadministrationinsisted the assault was a protest that got out of hand. fox news confirmed u.s. intelligence did indeed know it was a terror attack of 24 hours of that evening. bill: yesterday the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and the defense secretary finally statedding the obvious. >> it was a terrorist attack. as we determined details of what took place there and how that attack took place that it became clear there were terrorists who planned that attack. that's when i came to that conclusion. >> day after or was -- >> took a while to really get some of the feedback from what exactly happened at that location. >> there was a thread of intelligence reporting that groups in the environment in western, correction, eastern libya, were seeking to coalesce but there wasn't anything specific. bill: well, peter doocy is live in washington drilling down on the specifics. peter, if the administration knew it was terrorist attack in 24 hours, why did they not just say that? >> reporter: we heard from administration officials there is ongoing investigation and more details wi

altogether. two days ago from this podium,presidentobamareiteratedthat the threat of a nuclear-armed iran cannot be contained. i very much appreciate the president's position, as does everyone in my country. we share the goal of stopping iran's nuclear weapons program. this goal unites the people of israel, it unites americans, democrats and republicans alike, and it is shared by important leaders throughout the world. what i have said today will help ensure that this common goal is achieved. le israel is in discussions with the united states over this issue, and i'm confident we can chart a path forward together. ladies and gentlemen, the clash between it need not be a clash between progress and tradition. the traditions of the jewish people go back thousands of years. they're the source of our collective values, the foundations of our national strength. at the same time the jewish people have always looked towards the future. throughout history we've been at the forefront of efforts to expand liberty, promote equality, and advance human rights. we championed these principles not in spit

both mitt romney andpresidentobamahaveeencampaigning i the same battlegroun state. this time it's virginia where both men targeted the same group of voters. let's walk over to cnn's naon political correspondent jim acosta who's been out on the campaign trail wahingt' going . another dramatic da. virginia, virginia, virginia. pretty important place. >> that's right. a rare visit to washington for me. but it's good to be home, wolf. all politics is local. so it was no surprise to hear both candidates hit on national security themes today in their speeches in virginia. but the state is much bigger than that. it's really a republican firewall for mitt romney. in battleground virginia, both president obama and mitt romney pulled out the heavy artillery before a group of veterans, romney slammed the president for the massive defense cuts part of the fiscal cliff coming at the end of the year. >> it is still a troubled and dangerous world. and the idea of cutting our military commitment by a trillion dollars over this decade is unthinkable. and devastating. and when i become president

and white college graduates and working class voters voted in 2008. minorities80/20,obama. whitecollege graduates a four-point deficit, and the right hand column you see how much demographic change we have just in the last four years based on current population survey eligible voters. according to be sedated, we've seen an increase of three points in the share of eligible voters were minority's and a decrease of three points in the share of voters who are white noncollege or working class. that's quite a lot of change in a short period of time. let's just think a bit about what these figures mean, the figures from 2008 and the figures for today. even though it looks like the minority vote usher should go up, let's just say it does not. but let's say that obama gets again the 80% of the minority vote he got in the 2008. let's get nearly loses white college graduates by four-point. it means that you actually be competitive in this race, mitt romney would have to get double john mccain's margin of 18 points among the white working class in this election. that's youth turnout doesn't change

, and that kathleen mentioned in the survey, the claimthatobamahasgutted welfare reform and has, i'm sure you've seen that ad, that all three of us, all four of us i think have debunked. so i want to play a little short video as an example of, about this and talk a little bit about why i do think we will hear. here we go. >> so this is a video from -- >> i will be the first to publicly say i was wrong, ms. coppola. because my objective is for people to know the facts and the truth on all of the stuff. >> you know what you should do? let me tell you what you should do. you should go on some kind of a truth tour. [laughter] spend as a matter fact i already have one plan. >> what do? that sounds crazy? what's it called? >> it's called the truth tour las.[laughter] >> is called a truth tour. was a going to to go? >> thirty states and three events a day. >> all right, this is from politifact. [cheers and applause] >> politifact checked a romney campaign and claim that obama ended welfare work requirements earlier this month. rating it pants on fire. [laughter] that i believe is one of, i don't kno

>>> swing state support, a news cbs news poll showspresidentobamaholdinga significant lead over mitt romney in three key states. >> road to the future. google paves the way for a car that can drive and park itself. >> i expect self-driving cars will be far more safer. >> immaculate misconception, nfl backs up a controversial decision made by the replacement officials but the call is raising questions about the referee lockout and becoming a campaign issue. >>> this is the "cbs morning news" for wednesday, september 26, 2012. >>> good morning, everybody. good to be with you. i'm terrell brown. the race for the white house has taken a new turn. less than six weeks before the presidential election president obama is widening his lead over mitt romney. it's estimated 237 are solidly behind president obama or leaning in his direction while 206 votes are in mitt romney's camp. cbs news quinnipiac university "new york times" poll said president obama has gained significant ground over mitt romney in ohio, pennsylvania and florida. we have more on this. >> reporter: good morning. that's

economy. you have to have a strong economy. >>presidentobamawasrallying supporters in virginia beach. that was a couple minutes ago. he talked about creating opportunities for everybody. >> we don't believe anybody is entitled to sucssthis country. we don't believe government should help folks who aren't willing to try to help themselves. but we do believe in sothing called opportunity. we do believe in a country where hard work pays off, where responsibility is rewarded, where everyone gets a fair shot and everybody is doing their fair share and everybody plays by the same rules. we believe in america where no matter what you look ke, no matter who you are, no matter where you come from, no matter who you love, u n make it if y. [ cheers and applause ] that's the country i believe in. >>> jim acosta is covering the romney campaign. jim, one of the interesting things back in 2008 in covering president obama, you knew that there was a sense that he could possibly win when people started showing up in virginia. i mean that was really th turning pot. they thought perhaps we have this th

has tried sanctions with iran under the leadership ofpresidentobama, theinternational community has passed some ofhe strongest sanctions to date. i wa to thank the governments reenhehave joined in this effort. it's had an effect. oil exports have been curbed, and the iranian economy has been hit hard. it's had an effect on the eco ecy, wust face the truth. sanctions have not stopped iran's nuclear program either. according to the international atomic energy agency, during the st year alone iran has doubled the mber oftresn its underground nuclear facility. at this late hour there's only one way to peacefully prevent iran from getting atomibombs. that'sy pla a clear, red line on iran's nuclear weapons program. [ applause ] re lin'tea to war. red lines prevent war. just look at nato's charter. it made ear that an attack on one membecountry would be considered an aack o all. nato red line heldo k the peace in europe for nearly half a century. president kennedy selt a red lineuring the cuban missile crisis. that red line also prevented war and helped preserve the peace for decas. in fac

reading on -- reads of the morning.presidentobamamakesanother trip to ohio. romney definitely needs to put ohio back in play. the president simile wants to put it away. >>> today romney is out with a straight-to-camera ad. the ad itself is a bit of an admission that the 478% comments have done serious damage and the attacks on his personal wealth are also sinking in. take a look at the ad. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle-class fami families. the difference is my policies will make things better for them. we shouldn't measure compassion by how many people are on welfare. we should measure compassion by how many people are able to get off welfare and get a good-paying job. >> worth noting, that's his first candidate-to-camera ad. this morning the obama campaign have another ad out hitting on the 47% comment. this is what it looks like. >> when mitt romney dismissed 47% of americans for not pulling their weight, he attacked millions of hard-working people making $25,000, $35,000 a year $40,000 a year. romney paid just 14% last year on over $13 million in income

topresidentobama's defense.>> i want to tell you how proud i am to stand shoulder to shoulder with a guy who has done more for israel physical security than any president of eight i served with. >> that came the day that the president was on the phone with netanyahu who is in the united states instead of meeting him in person. a white house statement said they are in full agreement of a shared goal to prevent iran obtaining a nuclear weapon, it stopped short of agreal to the red line that he demanded thursday. >> where should a red line be drawn? right here. before, before iran completes a second stage of nuclear enrichment. >> romney pressured the president scheduling his own call today with netanyahu. >> the national security threat is iran with nuclear capability. we spoke about the assessment of where the red line ought to be drawn. >> romney took the opening to hamer a president who has seen drop on foreign policy. the problem is bigger on the questioning of the handling of libya with 39% of the public approving, 43% disapproving and 17% unsure. >> i'm supposed to be eye candy here. >>

checkers look at it statements fromtheobamaandronnie campaigns. then debates for california's seventh congressional district. >> to texas politicians, each touted as the future of their parties, debated the economy, immigration, and other issues at the "texas tribune" festival in austin. julian castro is the mayor of saying antonio and was the keynote speaker at the republican convention. tedthis is one hour. >> i think you know the drill today. i hope you will enjoy as many of those as you can. if you have phones and you're agram,ing to tweet or instr we ask you to turn off your phones. please give our sponsors a hand. [applause] we will visit for about 40 minutes. when we get started, there are phones on either i'll. we ask that of that the microphone at the appropriate -- we ask that you line up at the microphone at the program time than july 31, 2012 began with the announcement that julian caster would be the keynote speaker at the democratic national convention. the footsteps of several. before mayor castro had uttered the words menudo " gulf, speculation began. -- menudo cookoff

been trying to have a campaign that was structured around the idea thatbarackobamawasa nice guy, a good fellow, a good dad and an all-around swell american but that mitt romney thought that he could probably do a better job being president and manager of the economy than he could because they were very worried about not only fending voters had voted for obama in 2008. they didn't want to sound like romney was being a jerk, but they were worried, too, pretty obviously, about what the establishment press was going to say. if romney came out and attacked the first black president on his record and went after him, what would people say? well, that strategy, the latest polling tells us, has not exactly been a bell ringer in ohio. so what you hear from romney is he gets to the must-win. it is an absolutely must-win state for him is this tough new tone, and not only is he talking about the economy as you heard him do there, but guess what's back? the debt clock. they've got the debt clock back, and they're talking a lot about how much president obama's policies cost, they're talking ab

. spotlight on virginia. bothpresidentobama, mittromney campaigning there over the last hour, duelling campaign events. romney held a veterans for romney event in springfield, talking about the need to keep america's military strong. >> i happen to subscribe to ronald reagan's maxim that peace comes through strength. i want to have a military that so strong no one wants to test it. [ applause ] and there's a long-term threat to our military capability, and to our national security, and it relates to something that fuels and builds our military. and that's our economy. you have to have a strong economy. >> president obama was rallying supporters in virginia beach. that was a couple minutes ago. he talked about creating opportunities for everybody. >> we don't believe anybody is entitled to success in this country. we don't believe government should help folks who aren't willing to try to help themselves. but we do believe in something called opportunity. we do believe in a country where hard work pays off, where responsibility is rewarded, where everyone gets a fair shot and everybody i

community to stop iran from developing a nuclear weapon. whenpresidentobamacallshim today, what will he say? >>> and one of america's most enduring mysteries. could be closer to being solved. police follow a new tip and start digging this morning. will they find the body of jimmy hoffa? it's friday, september 28th. "starting point" begins right now. >>> morning. welcome everybody, our starting point this morning is a hero's welcome for the real nfl referees. fans in baltimore gave them a standing ovation, ahead of last night's ravens/browns game. the replacements just one day after the league and referees union agreed on a new eight-year contract. nischelle turner is live in los angeles. they loved them at least at the very beginning. how did it go? >> four minutes they loved them for, soledad. you know, it didn't take long for the boos to come out. it wasn't because of bad calls or calls that fans thought were wrong. it was because, you know, when you have the home team and you make a call against the home team, fans don't tend to like that. the refs, the real regular refs did get that

it takes to get this economy going. >> shepard:presidentobamaandgovernor romney each back in the buckeye state with just days to go until the first votes are cast. and ♪ ♪ moon river ♪ wider than a mile. >> shepard: tonight, saying good by to the legendary crooner andy williams. first from fox this wednesday night the president of iran is back in the country he says the united states is in cahoots with the devil and israelis are uncivillized. now the world is reacting to mahmoud ahmadinejad's latest anti-west rhetoric today at the united nations. the president of ahmadinejad took the podium at the u.n. general assembly and while his speech was not as fiery as some of those in the past, he still did say his vision of the world's future does not include the united states or israel. listen. >> the koran -- situation of the world better incident of history humanely iran's management of the world and the self-proclaim sensors of power who have entrusted themselves to the devil. >> shepard: just yesterday the iranian president called israel a fake regime that needs to be e

obamaisexpected to pick up a phone and place a call to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu today. this will be the first time the two leaders have spoken since the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in libya. netanyahu has been pressuring the president to handle the nuclear threat from iran by drawing a red line. now the president so far has not obliged. so israeli prime minister drew his own red line yesterday with the entire world watching. >> where should a red line be drawn? a red line should be drawn right here. . before, before iran completes the second stage of nuclear enrichment. necessary to make a bomb. >> netanyahu warned it would be too late to stop iran from making a nuclear bomb if something isn't done before next summer. >>> police are trying to figure out why a gunman went on a deadly rampage inside a minneapolis sign company. the death toll rising this morning. the shooting killing four people before turning the gun on himself. it happened around 4:30 yesterday afternoon at the accent signage systems building on the north side of minneapolis. the shooter

is probably going to do better. she says thatpresidentobamaisone of the most talented political communicateors in modern history. this will be his eighth one-on-one presidential debate and romney's first. the president wil usehis ample rhetoricts attack romney. obama won the debates against john mccain if 2008 by double digits. it is not just the romney team that is trying to lower expectations. check out what obama's senior campaign advisor said recently. >> look, mitt romney, i think, has an advantage because he has been through 20 of these debates in the primaries over the last year. he even bragged that he was declared the winner in 16 of those debates. so i think in that sense having been through this much more recently than president obama, i think he starts with an advantage. >> want to bring in our jim accosta, who is covering the romney campaign in wayne, indiana. i'm tired of the false flattery really. do people really buy this? >> reporter: no, i don't think buys it, suzanne, but, you know, campaign aides are going to do that, and th'regoin to keep doing it as long as

refs on the field. >>> candidate clash,presidentobamaandmitt romney nearly clash as they cross key battleground states. >>> and under the sea. google takes its virtual street >>> and under the sea. google takes its virtual street view to incredible new depths. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> hello and good morning. i'm lynn berry. and today we begin with game on. late last night the nfl reached a tentative deal with its referees and that ended this season's lockout. anger over the use of replacement refs spilled over after monday night's contest between the green bay packers and seattle seahawks. the fill in refs awarded a game-winning touchdown to seattle though many felt the packers had made an interception. well, two days of marathon labor negotiations followed. the refs still have to vote on the deal, but commissioner roger goodell has lifted the lockout just in time for tonight's match-up between the cleveland browns and baltimore ravens. nbc's fred roggin will have full details coming up in sports. >>> first president obama and presidential candidate mitt ro

own education nation summit. at the un this morning,presidentobamaissueda warning to i ran. >> many iranians wish to enjoy peace and prosperity alongside their neighbors. just as it ri stricts the rights of ittings own people the iranian government continues to prop up a dictator in damascus and support terrorist groups abroad. time and again it has failed to take the opportunity to demonstrate its nuclear program is peaceful. >> mitt romney also discussed foreign affairs today including iran, this morning at the clinton global initiative. >> today we face a world with unprecedented challenges and complexities. we should not forget and cannot forget that not far from here, a voice of unspeakable evil and hatred has spoken out, threatening israel, and the entire civilized world. we come together knowing the bitterness of hate is no match for the strength of love. >> joining me now for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor of post politics.com and jeffrey goldberg, national correspondent for the atlantic. jeffery to you, did the president talk to

's actually related -- >> no, it's not. >>presidentobamaleadsromney by 10 percentage points in ohio. no republican has lost and then won the presidency. the president is up nine points in florida and has opened up a 12-point lead in pennsylvania. in the same poll, president obama leads mitt romney in his handling of the economy in all three states. 51% of polled voters say the president would do the better job. >> okay, let's go back to the last slide, guys. and mark halperin, let's talk to you. i know you agree with me that the media is liberal. guess what? republicans have somehow managed to win despite that media liberal bias. you've said it repeatedly on this show. so despite that fact, mitt romney is not getting crushed in all three of these states because of the liberal media bias. what's happening there, and why is he losing so badly, especially in ohio? >> well, it's very unlikely the president will win those states by those margins, but these numbers are not out of line dramatically with private polling and some other public polling. i think the biggest problem right now re

first caller. caller: goodmorning.obamaandbiden are cutting the military and they don't even say much about it on the news. things will be cut, especially in the navy. there are many people in afghanistan and they will go out with no retirement. as far as romney, i'm not happy with him either. host: our next call is kevin on the line from the democrats. caller: my view on paul ryan is that his health-care plan, the vouchers, it allows an increase based on inflation. in the last 10 years the cost of health care has gone up 11% per year. so it would be up to the individual voucher holder to pay the difference. this has had a tremendous impact on the votes of older people. recent polls show older people are leaving the republican party because of the direct impact of paul ryan as being chosen as vice president. host: let's hear from john in pennsylvania on the independent line. good morning. will the vice-presidential candidates impact your vote? are you there? let's try missoni in fort worth, texas. -- tony in fort worth, on the democratic line. caller: yes, i think it will impact

,presidentobamaleadsmitt romney in his ndlif e ecomy ill estat. 51% of polled voters say the president would do the better job. >> okay, let's go back to the last slide, guys. and mark halperin, let's talk to you. i know you agree with me that the media is liberal. guess what? republicans have someh managed to win dpitehat a raas you've said it repeatedly on this show. so despite that fact, mitt romney is not getting crushed in all three of these states because of the liberal media bias. what's hapning the, and why is he lingoba especially in oh? >> well, it's very unlikely the president will win those states by those margins, but these numbers are not out of line dramatically with private polling and some other public polling. i think the biggest problem rit now remains him. he's not driving asient mee. the president does -- says something, the republicans get all excited about it. they treat it like a gaffe. they'll talk about it for a day. and then they'll move on to something else. the biggest danger to me right now for the republican party are two things. one is that you look athe

class family of four would see their tax bill increase by $2,200 in 2013. jessica,presidentobamacouldwin. congress could come back with the same composition that it has now. what does the president do, as i ask, between election day and the end of the year to protect americans from the fiscal cliff? >> well, there's, obviously, two scenarios. but one where he will not extend the bush tax cuts for the wealthiest americans. so, the fiscal cliff is going to be folded in in some way into renegotiating the tax cuts and how they get extended. and i think he'll say it's a no go. i'm fought going to extend the bush tax cuts. so, either we can negotiate it now in these few remaining weeks before christmas or we can face a government shut down. i think there will be a little bit of chicken game playing at the end of the year. and what most people in washington think will likely happen is they'll negotiate some way to say, here's a broad framework for what both sides want, let's work it out next year. we'll see. >> sheila, i kind of think americans are a little dilutional they are about the eco

:15. republican presidential candidate, mitt romney claimspresidentobamahasnot come clean with details about that deadly u.s. embassy attack in libya. >> i think they want to do their very best from keeping the people in america from understanding exactly what happened. >> now, paul ryan also questioned whether the white house officials are on the same page. the administration has called the libya violence a terrorist attack but yesterday president obama used different terms to describe what happened. >> we're still doing an investigation. there's no doubt that the kind of weapons that were used that -- the ongoing assault, that it wasn't just a mob action. >> now, a white house security adviser is denouncing a coverup and are investigating exactly what happened to make sure diplomats are safe. >>> israel is not happy that iran's president is speaking to the u.n. general assembly on one of israel's most holiest days, yom kippur. some say they will walk out during mahmoud ahmadinejad's speech. alison burns is live from washington, d.c. with how the president is responding to new threats from

this morning, crunch time in the race for the white house. just two days remain beforepresidentobamaandmitt romney square off in denver for the first of three critical debates. president's being prepped in nevada today. and the gop challenger has some ground to make up because a brand-new "washington post"/abc news poll this morning has the president leading by two percentage points among likely voters. it's not unusual for candidates to try to lower expectations in the days leading up to dedebate. republicans have been playing up the president's eloquence, ever since last week. but it seems somebody forgot to tell new jersey governor chris christie, because he was setting the bar high for mr. romney. listen. >> he's going to come in wednesday night, lay out his vision for america, he's going to contrast what his view is with what the president's record is, the president's view for the future and this whole race is going to be turned upside down come thursday morning. >> upside down is what he says. in just a few minutes we're going to be talking about wednesday night's debate and the presi

.presidentobamaformitt romney. some new data out. most people have made up their minds. 15% could be convinced to choose somebody else. that seems kind of hype. first, here are some currencies. look how they are shaping up against the dollar today. ♪ follow the wings. ♪ >> @23 minutes past the hour i have good news minute. at least 14 people are dead after a bombing attack in afghanistan. thirty-seven for her to the attack. a new report finds dozens of weapons connected to the bathroom. and it gone rubbing fetish they were linked to murders, kidnappings and other drug cartels. your seafood may be shrinking over the next few decades. researchers at the university of british columbia faced global warming will reduce the size of 600 species of fish. warmer oceans will reduce the amount of oxygen in the water. those are your news headlines on the fox business network. dagen: thank you so much. the supreme court is back in session. first on the agenda, a human right case revolving around a ball around 1789. connell: peter barnes covered that. >> argument ending for this first case.

the country. >> evenpresidentobamaisvoicing his opinion on the call that decided monday's game saying it was "terrible." what will it take to get the real referees back on the field? one of the issues that led to the lockout in the first place and who will blink first. we're going to talk about this in just a couple of minutes with this guy sitting right here, bob castas of nbc sports. >> people are now making videos to express their frustration. ♪ i just met you it was crazy what's his number i'll call it maybe it's hard to call right never replay what's his number i'll call it maybe ♪ >> okay on the plus side it's spawning some creativity. all right. we'll have a little bit more on that part of the story too. >> it just points out the fact they have to do something quickly. >>> a woman who makes it halloween every single day. she wears a different costume at work each day, and she's done it for three years and counting. this morning, well, she's known as dressy jesse. she's gotten dolled up for us in an nbc page's uniform, much to the chagrin of our real nbc page. more on that c

area today which a republican hasn't won in nearly 25 years. pennsylvania, that is.presidentobamasticksclose to washington today, though, with three fund-raising events. both men were in virginia yesterday catering to the state's strong u.s. military and defense industry presence. mary jo is still with us. is mitt romney in pennsylvania because he thinks there's a chance? how important is winning pennsylvania to him? >> pennsylvania is one of several battleground states in this election and it comes town really to a handful of states including ohio and florida and of course pennsylvania and virginia. the undecided vote so far is very small, but let's keep in mind at this stage ronald reagan in 1980 was running about five points behind jimmy carter. by mid october, he was 13 points behind and yet he won the election by nine points. >> what do you think will be that catalyst for swinging things in mitt romney's favor? >> a strong debate by mitt romney. there are three of them coming up. a misstep by the president. some sort of international incident to thinks that might come out a