phaseolus:Interesting. It looks like they're in the process of setting up U.S. theatrical simulcasts of the premiere, but the link doesn't appear to have any definite showtimes and locations quite yet.

Faaaaaaaaaahhhhccck... A damned cashgrab.... that I gotta look into...Thanks, phaseolus.

The scene where he tied that one guy to a chair and beat him with a wrench until he told what boat the cartel's next shipment was coming in on... that was a bit much.

It's one thing to use the sonic screwdriver as a de facto weapon; various Doctors have been brandishing it at Daleks for a long time now. But to have the Doctor hold it up to a beaten man and say, "This is on setting 53, you piece of shiat. Do you know what setting 53 does? It farks you up the ass like you ain't never been farked before, you little maricón pansy. Now, I gotta tell you, no matter what you say, it's gonna happen regardless, Marquez. The only question is whether I let you enjoy it. NOW TALK!" ...I don't know. It just seems a little too edgy.

In May 2011, Moffat criticised those "who call themselves fans" who revealed crucial plot lines ahead of transmission."You can imagine how much I hate them," he told BBC Radio 5 live. "I wish they could go and be fans of something else."

Just WTF is it with recent Dr Who producers and their seething, almost homicidal hatred of their own farking fan base? "I wish you all neckbeards and fatties would each get cancer of the nutsack and die alone & screaming in a puddle of your own pus while nurses would rifle through your wallet! Now make sure to watch the season debut of our program and buy our merchandising!"

perigee:phaseolus: Interesting. It looks like they're in the process of setting up U.S. theatrical simulcasts of the premiere, but the link doesn't appear to have any definite showtimes and locations quite yet.

Faaaaaaaaaahhhhccck... A damned cashgrab.... that I gotta look into...Thanks, phaseolus.

It's fun. I drove the whole family (well ... not counting my ex-wife) 50 miles to see The Day of The Doctor's simulcast, and I think seeing it in a theater with a few hundred fans added to the experience.

semiotix:skinink: Was surprised how much the Doctor swears in these episodes.

The scene where he tied that one guy to a chair and beat him with a wrench until he told what boat the cartel's next shipment was coming in on... that was a bit much.

It's one thing to use the sonic screwdriver as a de facto weapon; various Doctors have been brandishing it at Daleks for a long time now. But to have the Doctor hold it up to a beaten man and say, "This is on setting 53, you piece of shiat. Do you know what setting 53 does? It farks you up the ass like you ain't never been farked before, you little maricón pansy. Now, I gotta tell you, no matter what you say, it's gonna happen regardless, Marquez. The only question is whether I let you enjoy it. NOW TALK!" ...I don't know. It just seems a little too edgy.

Maybe the script leak is a reaction to Moffat being a colossal narcissist with the charm and sophistication of a used colostomy bag.

They need to bring back the script editor that chainsawed through his writing for the episodes he wrote for Tennant, since she seemed very capable of ripping out all his bullshiat and turning it into good TV.

TV's Vinnie:In May 2011, Moffat criticised those "who call themselves fans" who revealed crucial plot lines ahead of transmission."You can imagine how much I hate them," he told BBC Radio 5 live. "I wish they could go and be fans of something else."

Just WTF is it with recent Dr Who producers and their seething, almost homicidal hatred of their own farking fan base? "I wish you all neckbeards and fatties would each get cancer of the nutsack and die alone & screaming in a puddle of your own pus while nurses would rifle through your wallet! Now make sure to watch the season debut of our program and buy our merchandising!"

How is Moffat being any different from the non-book reading GoT fans who shat bricks over any book speak in those threads? He's saying that some of his fans are assholes, and thus he doesn't consider them real fans because they're more interested in ruining enjoyment of the show for others, which is a valid criticism.

TV's Vinnie:In May 2011, Moffat criticised those "who call themselves fans" who revealed crucial plot lines ahead of transmission."You can imagine how much I hate them," he told BBC Radio 5 live. "I wish they could go and be fans of something else."

Just WTF is it with recent Dr Who producers and their seething, almost homicidal hatred of their own farking fan base? "I wish you all neckbeards and fatties would each get cancer of the nutsack and die alone & screaming in a puddle of your own pus while nurses would rifle through your wallet! Now make sure to watch the season debut of our program and buy our merchandising!"

Source? You'll have to do better than Moffat getting mad at people who ruin the show before it even comes out.

semiotix:skinink: Was surprised how much the Doctor swears in these episodes.

The scene where he tied that one guy to a chair and beat him with a wrench until he told what boat the cartel's next shipment was coming in on... that was a bit much.

It's one thing to use the sonic screwdriver as a de facto weapon; various Doctors have been brandishing it at Daleks for a long time now. But to have the Doctor hold it up to a beaten man and say, "If some coont can fark something up, that coont will pick the worst possible time to farking fark it up cause that coont's a coont." ...I don't know. It just seems a little too edgy.

Ugh...the melodrama from Steven Moffat and the BBC about this is nauseating. Someone on their staff farks up royally and now Doctor Who fans are supposed to feel morally obligated to avoid the result of their fark-up. Never mind that they have been letting people take photos of on-location shooting for weeks. I'll read the scripts if I bloody well want to, and that doesn't make me any less a fan. I won't spoil them for anyone else, but I'm not going to be preemptively guilt-tripped by a production company that seems to have trouble keeping things to themselves.

StopLurkListen:Dingleberry Dickwad: OtherLittleGuy: Dingleberry Dickwad: Stile4aly: iron de havilland: ManateeGag: Savage Belief: skinink: Was surprised how much the Doctor swears in these episodes.

And I can't wait for Clara's nude scenes.

if they start adding nude scenes, I won't mind if they bring back Rose.

Clara > Rose.

River > Everyone else.

bzzzzzt! Wrong. Martha>River>Rose>Amy>Donna as far as hotness with the new companions goes.

Don't make me shove a Janis thorn up your asses, kids.

Hey, at least I qualified it with "new companions" I also realized I forgot Clara in my list for some reason.

Martha>River=Clara>Rose> Amy> Donna.

And sorry, Peri Beats out Leela IMO, although the thought that she could kick my ass is kinda hot...

Amy+Rory>River>Donna>Martha>Rose>Amy>Clara.

Clara's cute as all heck but is basically just furniture. 'Amy and Rory and the Doctor' have fantastic chemistry.

I was just listing them by hotness, not as a companion. If I was rating the new crews as companions my list would be similar to yours, but I'd throw Donna about equal to River personally. I'm kinda hoping Clara has a chance to shine this season and hopefully the writers stick with a personality for her and drop the mystery bit now that it's solved and give her a chance to be cool. She's got potential. Also I'd rate Martha lower mostly because of how she was written though. Rose was ok while she was the main companion, but once she left it got sickening how often RTD and the writers would keep coming back to her and how the Doctor missed her and such. I actually would have liked more of just the Doctor and Rory, that could have been cool.

TV's Vinnie:In May 2011, Moffat criticised those "who call themselves fans" who revealed crucial plot lines ahead of transmission."You can imagine how much I hate them," he told BBC Radio 5 live. "I wish they could go and be fans of something else."

Just WTF is it with recent Dr Who producers and their seething, almost homicidal hatred of their own farking fan base? "I wish you all neckbeards and fatties would each get cancer of the nutsack and die alone & screaming in a puddle of your own pus while nurses would rifle through your wallet! Now make sure to watch the season debut of our program and buy our merchandising!"

Might be revenge. In the 1990s, no one in the world hated the show more than the fans. Every attempt to revive it was met with foaming, teeth-gnashing, fist-pounding rage, whether it was the Leekly Bible, Daltenreys, or the 1996 movie. Once the Internet came along, Doctor Who couldn't print a poster without receiving hate mail from their "biggest" fans.

peasandcarrots:Might be revenge. In the 1990s, no one in the world hated the show more than the fans. Every attempt to revive it was met with foaming, teeth-gnashing, fist-pounding rage, whether it was the Leekly Bible, Daltenreys, or the 1996 movie. Once the Internet came along, Doctor Who couldn't print a poster without receiving hate mail from their "biggest" fans.

Yeah, I find it kind of annoying when fans get a little too attached to their idea of what Doctor Who should be, and don't realize that the whole point of the show, and its greatest strength, is the ability to completely reimagine itself when a new Doctor and/or creative team comes onboard. The show just should never, ever be treated as serious business, because it removes a lot of the charm.

/That said, some of the ideas Fox had for their version in 1996 would have really made a mess that I'm not sure anyone could properly retcon away, so it is probably better it was stillborn with the TV movie.

I'm as big a "Doctor Who" fan as you're likely to find, and I don't mind having plots spoiled for me in general. It doesn't hurt my enjoyment.

But there's practically no point to reading a leaked "Who" script when we haven't even seen what Capaldi will do with the character. If you can't picture his manner in your head while reading, it's pointless. Plus, the time it would take to read a leaked script is hardly worth it, when you have to imagine all the visuals.

Now, reading a script after something has aired might be interesting - seeing what was tweaked or left out, and being able to picture the rest in your head.

But this? This just seems pointless to me.

/and then there are the clowns who will insist this is a publicity stunt

I like the one where the new Doctor's all shouty and his companion's all like "Wha-a-a-at??" and then the TARDIS is all like "fark it, I'm takin' y'all HERE!" and then there's like weird shiat and stuff, then the Doctor gets all "Omma fix this shiat!" and then they go somewhere else at the end.

/Spoilers are only spoilers if there is utterly irrelevant acting, cinematography and effects. To know what is going to happen is no impediment to enjoying a good show. Ref: Shakespeare.