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Re: Pacers/Suns Postgame Thread

We are playing with a sense of entitlement. Like we have won something. They have not come out with any intensity in the first half of games lately and we are getting our tits blown off in the first half. Sometimes we are good enough to close the gap in the second half, other times we aren't. But we shouldn't put ourselves in that position. Get it fixed guys. It's a long season, I know, but let's cut the crap.

Re: Pacers/Suns Postgame Thread

PG was absolutely putrid on offense, but was great on defense. Moving forward PG needs to be on the other teams best offensive guard regardless of position.

The bench has been just absolutely awful lately. Ian misses too many layups, Scola can't guard or shoot, CJ takes random shots that never seem to go in anymore and Danny seemingly ALWAYS starts games off with 2 or 3 misses. If we can't get better production out of them losses like this will happen.

PG's has a lot of awful turonovers. West didn't shoot well. Hill played solid and Lance/Roy were monsters. We need more than just that to beat good teams.

Re: Pacers/Suns Postgame Thread

It's fair to be mildly concerned with this team right now, for a few reasons...

1. The slow starts aren't a fluke thing. They're a constant. This team just isn't coming out with simple effort and concentration on either end. This, to me, is a coaching issue.

2. Watson and Scola are playing abysmal basketball right now. Huge negatives. I can appreciate that Granger found a role on defense tonight (he needs to find a role every night!) But the bench is a problem right now. It's a problem until proven otherwise.

3. If the defensive switch really was as simple as switching George on Dragic, why the hell did it take a half to do that?!

4. Love the way Hill played on offense tonight. He's hitting that teardrop that eluded him earlier this season. It's a deadly shot for him.

5. The Suns really are a terrible matchup for the Pacers, so you do have to factor that in.

6. As good as Hibbert played on offense, and the Pacers lose by 20+ were it not for his offense, I thought he left some on the court on defense. Maybe because he gave bonus productivity on offense.

7. Paul George is an All-Star. He can't just disappear for a half. A shooting slump is one thing. Annoying, but they'll happen (and he has looked like a total spazz on offense two games in a row now). But you CAN'T be an All-Star and just be TOTALLY invisible on BOTH ends of the court for an entire half, like he was in the first half. Look, I have some issues with how Lance played on the whole tonight, but at least he inserted himself in the game. PG24 looked like he didn't even want to be in there the first half. It's the exception to the rule, but it's still worth noting.

8. Summarizing some of these points, Vogel is absolutely a top coach in this league, but this was a very poorly-coached game on his end, I thought.

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Re: Pacers/Suns Postgame Thread

George Hill had a great offensive outing. Paul George had the opposite. In fact, of the two of them, I'd say that Paul George was the sucky one, and George Hill was the good one. George Hill was doing so much on offense in the first half that Vogel had to take him off Dragic to give him some rest in the second half. If PG wasn't dogging it so much, missing shot after shot, Hill wouldn't have had to carry so much of the offensive load.

Re: Pacers/Suns Postgame Thread

George Hill had a great offensive outing. Paul George had the opposite. In fact, of the two of them, I'd say that Paul George was the sucky one, and George Hill was the good one. George Hill was doing so much on offense in the first half that Vogel had to take him off Dragic to give him some rest in the second half. If PG wasn't dogging it so much, missing shot after shot, Hill wouldn't have had to carry so much of the offensive load.

Why are you doing this now? The reaction to this is guaranteed to be awful

Tonight, all flags must burn, in place of steeples.
Autonomy must return into the hands of the people.

Re: Pacers/Suns Postgame Thread

I like George Hill and do not want to see him cast off for no reason, but if it comes down to it is there anyone who would not move him if that was the difference between keeping Lance or letting him go?

Re: Pacers/Suns Postgame Thread

I like George Hill and do not want to see him cast off for no reason, but if it comes down to it is there anyone who would not move him if that was the difference between keeping Lance or letting him go?

Re: Pacers/Suns Postgame Thread

Re: Pacers/Suns Postgame Thread

PG did good on Dragic in the second half, but too much damage had already been done. That dude just killed us. He should just change his number to 13 because he looked like freaking Steve Nash out there. Nash must have left some magic potion in a bottle when he was traded out before last season. We should have laid some hard fouls on Dragic though. Tough teams with a strong physical defensive identity let opponents know who is boss. We just that guy completely own us.

It's so irritating to see Gerald Green turn into Tracy McGrady, but good for him for getting his career on track. He's playing great basketball for a winning team, something I sure didn't think he was capable of after last year.

Those twins absolutely massacred us.

Lance showed a lot of fire. Hill showed aggression on the offensive end, but Dragic lit us up in the first half. West continued the outstanding offense that he has showed lately. Hibbert was awesome on offense. PG was awful and the bench was downright putrid. I liked Granger's defense, but he just doesn't seem capable of creating his own shot anymore, plus he no longer seems quick enough to routinely get open without the ball. Scola has just been putrid lately.

It's disheartening to get beat by the same team twice in a matter of days. I thought for sure that we'd pay them back at the Fieldhouse. Those clowns shot a combined 19-33 from three in these two games against us. That's an obscene 57.5%

Re: Pacers/Suns Postgame Thread

Why are you doing this now? The reaction to this is guaranteed to be awful

My bad. I was led to believe that we would be lynch mobbing tonight, as we are wont to do.

EDIT: I should also say that, as a young poster, I, like many others, simply pitied the fool. Now, however, I suffer fools gladly, which, I might add, is quite rare in this day and age. One more comma, ok?