Tomorrow the House Homeland Security Committee will be holding a hearing on “The Threat of Muslim-American Radicalization in U.S. Prisons,” chaired by Rep. Peter King. One of those testifying is LAPD Deputy Chief Michael Downing, the commander of the LAPD’s Counterterrorism and Special Operations Bureau.

This is an odd choice for the committee in light of a video we are making exclusive here at the PJ Tatler of Chief Downing speaking at a town hall event co-sponsored by his department at the Islamic Center of Southern California on May 15th. Here’s the video of Chief Downing’s comments:

Downing’s claims that “we should not demonize the Muslim Brotherhood” are particularly curious since the leader of the international Muslim Brotherhood declared war on the United States during a press conference last October (a transcript of his comments is available at MEMRI). It seems the Muslim Brotherhood does a good job of demonizing itself.

It is another case entirely when a government official such as Chief Downing attempts to deflect criticism of the Brotherhood and openly endorses MB front organizations in the U.S. as partners with law enforcement. From his remarks at the event it seems that Chief Downing can’t decide whether the Muslim Brotherhood are extremists on the fringe, or if they have “changed” over time and should be engaged. He can’t have it both ways.

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Rhodesway

Here we go again – a key official talking bull shit like it was gospel . A police official no less – one of the good guys who should know better.
The Brotherhood isn’t looking for souls in the US prison system – they are recruiting troops for their army.
The peace loving Islamist even have a poem that out lines their good intentions through the use of a Mosque.

You’re right anne,
This LAPD Chief is either scared… or he a muscle headed left wing loon. My guess is he’s scared…. and he has good reason to be. He’s an enforcement officer in a city that is not going to back him up when it comes to challenging the Islamist activists in their midst. Their Mayor is so pissed off at America for not welcoming in the millions of Hispanic illegal aliens (many who live in LA) he probably HOPES the Islamists wreak havoc on the American public.

Calling the Chief in LA a Good Guy is a really a bad definition of the term Good Guy. Compared to Osama, Hitler and the Uni-bomber he MIGHT be a good guy. In reality he is just one more political hack, whoring for votes and selling his Cops to kiss up to bigger political hacks.

Except for the few “good ones” working the streets, all cops are the enemy, especially high rankers…they are all part of the public sector money-power-politics cesspool thats leaving us naked (and unarmed if they can) before our enemies while they travel in state vehicles and appear on TV.

Moreover, it appears as if this officer is as dumb as a post and needs URGENT tutoring if he intends to secure LA interests.
He must go back to school, ordered to sit in a chair until he finishes at LEAST two books.Let’s call it – Continuing Ed for politically correct, law enforcement dummies.
His reading list MUST include, but is NOT meant to be the end of his schooling-
The Muslim Mafia, by Gaubatz and Sperry and Infiltration, by Sperry are atop the mandated reading.
The rest of the laundry list can be saved for when he is stirred from his coma.

Islam is guided, fundamentally, by the Koran, and then by the ‘Hadiths’. Anyone over 12 years of age, who reads the Koran beyond the 2nd Surah (chapter)without throwing the book into pig manure is sick.

[Disclosure: I am a British Canadian of Anglican background.]

The 1st Surah is very short. The 2nd does not begin the Universe and Eden or Mankind, it immediately plunges into vilification of the Jews and allocating women to the blatantly obvious status of walking uteri & wet nurses. All this is at the behest of ‘lofty’ imams & clerics to gain political power over dupes in the name of phony Sky-Daddy Allah. If there is anything of value in the subsequent chapters, it is better to find it in other works than the Koran.

Muslimism, whether the terrorist version or the supposed ‘moderate’ version is the barbaric enemy of all modern Rights respecting civilization, as was Christianity in the Dark Ages of Europe. It should be laughed off as were The Rapturists. Muslims using violence should be seen as the enemy: as targets*.

*Violent Muslims who are American are the only ones with a right to a trial, and that should be swift with resounding finality.

I threw my copy of the Koran into an abandoned septic tank. A pig pen would have chanced the pigs sickening on the filth of moslem doctrine.
I thought maybe that volume might feel more comfortable with its own kind. But now I wonder: Is Sharia biodegradeable?

I really wonder how and why this type of individual exist in a position of enforcement that goes against any common sense of the type of extremist run this “brotherhood”. Till the day I die, I truly believe that we have evil within and they seek the destruction of the American way of life. Chief Downing is a nut case and speaks of an organization that wants to destroy America.

Political Correctness began as a way to disarm intellectual arguments against liberalism through group think and social pressures. This cop has been brainwashed into ignoring a dangerous criminal organization with a world-wide reach and billion dollar funding. How? someone got to him.
I blame the HR departments and their reactionary nature.

Hey, I thought “Jack Dunphy” has first dibs on the LAPD’s lunacies. Why the horning in ???

On the other had, as my dear departed mother said once or twice or maybe more, “It’s better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.” Deputy Chief loves him some Islamaniacs.

The article states… “Never mind that there is scant evidence that American judges are resolving cases on the basis of Sharia.”

If this is true why is there resistance to codifying that in law?

We have many laws on the books that prohibit acts that there is little chance people committing, but the laws remain nonetheless.

In light of the fact that several activist judges in the U.S. have attempted to look outside the Constitution, primarily to European Law, combined with the fact that in places like Detroit we have had individuals try to use the defense of religous freedom to justify their acts of violence, such as honor killings, it is long past time that the laws be clearified to show that we have one law of the land in the U.S. and that is the U.S. Constitution, and not European law or Sharia.

and in particular, specifically repudiating the agreement to engage in an advertising campaign to convince Muslims that they have an individual duty to kill every Jew on the face of the earth and re-conquer every square inch of land ever held by a “Muslim” regime.

deputy chiefs and above in large cities are politicians first, cops second or maybe third. They spend all their media exposure time catering to and kissing ass of the people in this country who would destroy it at the blink of an eye. Politics trumps all, does’nt chief Downing?

Hmmm maybe the chief owes political favors? Maybe the muslims promised to clean out illegals and criminals in exchange for public support.Or he’s being blackmailed or trying to avoid jizya……
And the alphabet soup are umm monitoring possible threats?

Maybe it’s LA — Today the LA Times ran an op-ed by a HAMAS official. That is, they gave prominent space, unaddressed, to a terrorist organization whose charter — constitution — calls for genocide. I’m looking forward to reading an op ed by a Nazi official…Maybe the chief and he should do lunch…

The LA Times is the same cheap rag of a newspaper that just now made a big production for its readers out of releasing and going through Governor Sarah Palin’s 24,000 emails while she was in office in Alaska — because the public has a right to know — but still refuses to release a videotape in its possession of Obama speaking at a party in honor of his good pal, the anti-American PLO operative Rashid Khalidi, a few years back — because the public has no right to know about anything like that.

LeRoy Baca, Sheriff LA County testimony at House Committee on Homeland Security March 10, 2011—

“I would caution that to comment only on the extent of radicalization in the American Muslim Community may be viewed as singling out a particular section of our nation.
This makes a false assumption that any particular religion or group is more prone to radicalization than others

…According to MPAC, evidence clearly indicates a general rise in violent extremism across ideologies. Clearly, we should be examining radicalization as an issue thataffects all groups regardless of religion.

…Since we are gathered to share information about the American Muslim Community…I can deliver very good news. The Muslim Community in
Los Angeles is an active participant in the securing of our Homeland…the vast majority of Muslim community members within my jurisdiction is fiercely proud of their American identity…”

Prediction: over the next year we’ll begin to see the SWAT teams breaking into the homes of those who express disagreement with the system, whether it’s questioning this abuser police chief of the notorious LAPD (shoot first, no need to ask questions later), or talking back online or running a radio show…
The time for talking is long over and the other side will use all legal as well as shady means to squelch dissonance and dissent.
It will come very very soon… if not here already…

This fool has his head in the sand. Actually, it’s somewhere else closer to his brain. Activists in law enforcenent or on the court are a danger that must be addressed. California prop 8 is a prime example of an out of control govt. It’s time we sent these idiots packing. We can take back our country but it will take every effort we can muster. God bless and help America.

I don’t need to read the koran or any of their sick writings to know who the enemy is. Any religion that condones the murder of sleeping parents and their helpless children such as what happened to the Fogel family in Israel cannot possibly a religion of peace and is certainly not going to be a friend or ally of the United States. Those people, Muslims, want to kill us, not just Jews or Israeli’s but us, the citizens of the United States, for one very simply reason. They hate us. I wonder what Downing will be thinking when Muslims drag him off to have his head removed because he is a Christian.

PJ- Apparently you are unaware of the workings of big city police departments. Anyone over the rank of Lt is no longer a police officer in any real sense. They are political bureaucrats who must espouse the values of their liberal politically correct politician bosses. These opinions and attitudes are most often diametrically opposed to those of actual police officers.

Karl (and others) have it right. The ‘political’ fast track is the favored position for so many ‘fast risers’ in big city PDs. This kind of “not a cop” cop is distressing to civilians “and” the rank and file. They won’t stand behind their troops and actually only have one motivation, their rise within the ranks to bigger and better. Unlike Sheriff Joe Arpaio they will do the ‘song and dance’ of the day and break their necks following the “PC” of the moment. Civilians really have to take a hard look at where they stand according to such “authorities” and how they will defend themselves if needed!

LAPD Deputy Chief Downing is a “Useful Idiot”! Notice how he arrogantly thinks he knows more about the topic than the questioner. This guy Downing is a real piece of work! The LAPD’s Counter Terrorism Special Operations Bureau (CTSOB), is waaaaaaaaaaay under staffed! And Downing is being allowed and in some cases directed, by Assistant Chief Mike Moore, to gut our counter terrorism efforts even more. Downing is at a Congressional hearing today in DC, waxing intellectual about how great a job he and the LAPD are doing. He better get used to answering the tough questions, because when our enemies strike Los Angeles, that guy is going to be answering the tough questions about he many failures, for quite some time. Perhaps he can talk about how he wasted our operational grant funds on his little pet project “Hydra”, and jet-setting around the world on the miss-spent grant money, with Captain Frank, and the rest of the “command staff” yes men. We are a very soft target and have been targeted, and Downing is in dereliction of his duties, as are LAPD Captain Horace Frank, Steve Sambar, Commander Blake Chow, Assistant Chief Moore, Chief Beck and Mayor Villaragosa. They have neutered our counter terrorism efforts and made the city of Los Angeles vulnerable for attack. Right now we can only react to a terrorist attack, and clean up the bloody mess. We have zero proactive units out there conducting counter surveillance on our assets, looking for the terrorists, or lone wolves conducting pre-operational surveillance. The LAPD is NOT prepared to thwart a terrorist attack before it happens, only to clean up the mess. I feel horrible for the poeple of this city . They’re being sold a bill of goods by the LAPD’s Law Enforcement “Leaders”.

Oh, and we have great patrol officers, but we are NOT in a position to covertly uncover these people collecting intelligence on our city. Sorry, Chief, but only having uniformed patrol officers out there and citizens looking for the terrorists, are not going to cut the mustard. Pony up and do your JOB!

As far as I can see and is constantly being proven, LA has and is becoming more and more a cesspool of illegal immigrants, from Mexico, South America, Asia ( all countries, and now more than ever the Trogan Horse from the MIddle Eastern anarchists.

The Muslims, if they are really a very peaceful religion and group, are only acting as a vengful, ignorant and violent community. This is obvious by their “Silence” towards what looks like the fundamental goal of the destruction Of Irael,the United States and the Western Civilizations.

These world events will eventually end in a world castasrophe and come to a violent end unless all religeous and democratic peoples do not unite (from whatever religeous belief) and gather to reverse the evil now approaching a peak of no return.

Downing must have gone to the same school of public administration as the fat mouthed Lee Baca (L. A. County Sherriff). I remember when Baca told a woman on talk radio who had a large family and had to drive an SUV, when she was complaining about high gas prices: “well you shouldn’t drive an SUV if you can’t afford it.” He is also in favor of taking private citizen’s guns away. But I was told by a reserve deputy that the rank and file love him because they get a lot of overtime. Great just give your followers overtime and you can get away with being anti-American!

Ca. is in horrid trouble with liberal leadership,horrid legislation and illegals and dopes like this guy thinking any Muslim outfit which disses America is not a threat. All Islamofascists are a threat and this dope should know it. Is it any wonder that we who live here are always wondering if the barbarians are going to win and when we see law and order going south as on the borders, and with flacks in Sac. who are mostly Dems passing budgets with new taxes, no wonder no one now is thinking of moving into this fair state. And with more comments like this dunce, businesses will be flocking outward not inward.

I want to report gross misconduct on the part of DC Downing! You think Beck will take that 1.28 (complaint)? Doubt it. This guys thinks he’s a terrorism expert? C’mon……He’s a arrogant and ignorant megalomaniac! The worst kind of imbecile.

This looks a lot like what the Jews did in the 1930`s and we know how that turned out. People say it can not happen here in America. I ask you why can it not happen here? Their quran tells you and inmans from the middle east are already telling you they want to kill you, take your women for sex slaves and have your children be their servants. I am old enough not to have to worry about myself, it is my grand kids I worry about. I will protect what is mine and defend the US Constitution, will you?

This just highlights the differences between the metro area police department philosophies and everyone else; they are a reflection of the political composition of the areas they police for the most part.
It is just worse in LA, as California has become the beacon of the insane.

Its no wonder the U.S. can’t win the war against radical Islam with Politically Correct Dead Heads like this so called police chief who is an Appeaser to our enemies. What he and many other Liberals don’t understand is that we as a nation do not have to be tolerant of those foreigners that come here under the guise of diversity and tolerance. Not until they have been thoroughly investigated and proven not to be a threat to this country. America, STOP allowing these enemy combatants to ride in on their Trojan Horse with the ultimate intent of destroying this country. And do not allow the appeasers who are mostly on the Left to have their way either or it will become too late for us all.