“Ron Paul WILL be the next POTUS! This is HOW it will happen”!

Originally posted by xZodiacx
so true!! never looked at it like the way he explains it. He's pretty much just taking votes for the Republican party if he runs as an independent.
Only thing is is that if this does happen, then it may split the republican votes and Obama will win...As much as I want him to, I just do not see it.
Check this illuminati card out. He is a puppet that will ensure Obama's victory.

So if you have Satan (Obama), and then you have the son
of Satan (Romney), I should vote for the lesser of the two to keep Obama (Satan) out of the picture? Most RP supporters will not vote for the lesser
evil. Like me, most RP supporters will write RP in on the ballot. Romney will not be any better (if not worse) than Obama. At least I can walk away
from the voting station with a smile on my face for making the decision I feel to be right.

With Santorum dropping from the race there is zero chance of an open convention.Like it or not Romneys has won at this point.Or in other words Ron
paul will have to wait until next time unless he believes the 3 strikes your out rule.

Originally posted by SeventhSeal
I like some of Paul's policies but I'm hesitant to vote for him considering his views on gay rights, women's rights, etc...

His views on gay rights are that he is not gay himself, he has been married for many years, and he believes marriage between homosexual couples
(which is the biggest gay rights issue of the day) should be decided by the church and not by the government. I wholeheartedly believe in this. I
don't think we can have a free society if we discriminate against people like the way that were doing. And personally he is very much pro life.
Although he would not decide himself as president what the law should be against abortion, he does believe it is a state issue. So why would you
hesitate to vote for him, and what makes Romney at this point any better?

Believe me, I agree with you 100%. I will vote for RP, but based on the fact that some of these cards have actually come true (i.e. WTC and Pentagon
bombings, BP oil spill, possibly the Olympics this summer). It just makes me nervous. ATS has led me to believe that TPTB have devised an intricate
sort of plan for everything that goes on in our World.

Originally posted by SeventhSeal
I like some of Paul's policies but I'm hesitant to vote for him considering his views on gay rights, women's rights, etc...

His views on gay rights are that he is not gay himself, he has been married for many years, and he believes marriage between homosexual couples
(which is the biggest gay rights issue of the day) should be decided by the church and not by the government. I wholeheartedly believe in this. I
don't think we can have a free society if we discriminate against people like the way that were doing. And personally he is very much pro life.
Although he would not decide himself as president what the law should be against abortion, he does believe it is a state issue. So why would you
hesitate to vote for him, and what makes Romney at this point any better?

Not everyone goes to church or follows Paul's religious ideologies. Therefore, leaving it to the church is an invalid argument. Although I do believe
the government should stay out of personal lives to a certain degree, there needs to be a federal decision to legalize same sex marriage. It's a
right everyone deserves.

Paul is also against funding Planned Parenthood aka basic health care rights for women and even men. I understand the value of state rights but
federal involvement is also very important and necessary.

This is why I'm hesitant to vote for someone who has some radical ideas.

Also, Paul is for state rights but bashed Rick Perry (who is the douche of the century) for ordering an executive decision for young girls to get the
HPV vaccine. Perry is the governor of a state. It wasn't a federal issue, it was a state one. Who cares? I found that to be extremely hypocritical on
Paul's part although I understood the doctor's side of the argument completely.

Originally posted by SeventhSeal
I like some of Paul's policies but I'm hesitant to vote for him considering his views on gay rights, women's rights, etc...

His views on gay rights are that he is not gay himself, he has been married for many years, and he believes marriage between homosexual couples
(which is the biggest gay rights issue of the day) should be decided by the church and not by the government. I wholeheartedly believe in this. I
don't think we can have a free society if we discriminate against people like the way that were doing. And personally he is very much pro life.
Although he would not decide himself as president what the law should be against abortion, he does believe it is a state issue. So why would you
hesitate to vote for him, and what makes Romney at this point any better?

Not everyone goes to church or follows Paul's religious ideologies. Therefore, leaving it to the church is an invalid argument. Although I do believe
the government should stay out of personal lives to a certain degree, there needs to be a federal decision to legalize same sex marriage. It's a
right everyone deserves.

Paul is also against funding Planned Parenthood aka basic health care rights for women and even men. I understand the value of state rights but
federal involvement is also very important and necessary.

This is why I'm hesitant to vote for someone who has some radical ideas.

Also, Paul is for state rights but bashed Rick Perry (who is the douche of the century) for ordering an executive decision for young girls to get the
HPV vaccine. Perry is the governor of a state. It wasn't a federal issue, it was a state one. Who cares? I found that to be extremely hypocritical on
Paul's part although I understood the doctor's side of the argument completely.

Thats the whole idea of liberty. Ron Paul has a religion that he follows. It is something very personal to him. Nobody has to follow his religion or
go to church on a regular basis in order to get married. There are many churches out there that would marry same sex couples if the law allowed it, as
has happened in areas where it has been legalized. Dr. Paul wants government out of the decision because it should be an individual right. I believe
we don't need the government to tell us that something is OK or not OK. It is up to us the people to make the decision of what is best for us.

Health care is not a right, it is something that either you, your children (eventually), or someone else, will have to pay for. At the present moment
you do however have the right to choose wether or not you carry health insurance. Give Obama or Romney another 4 years and I wouldn't be so sure.

So please tell me how giving us our freedom to choose, without shouldering the burden of others is a radical idea?

Dr. Paul is for the constitution. Mandating that children and young adults get a vaccine without the freedom of the parent or emancipated minors
choice is not following our constitutional rights, and it was a bad idea on Perry's part. So yeah, our rights are being taken away... who cares,
right?

Originally posted by SeventhSeal
I like some of Paul's policies but I'm hesitant to vote for him considering his views on gay rights, women's rights, etc...

His views on gay rights are that he is not gay himself, he has been married for many years, and he believes marriage between homosexual couples
(which is the biggest gay rights issue of the day) should be decided by the church and not by the government. I wholeheartedly believe in this. I
don't think we can have a free society if we discriminate against people like the way that were doing. And personally he is very much pro life.
Although he would not decide himself as president what the law should be against abortion, he does believe it is a state issue. So why would you
hesitate to vote for him, and what makes Romney at this point any better?

Not everyone goes to church or follows Paul's religious ideologies. Therefore, leaving it to the church is an invalid argument. Although I do believe
the government should stay out of personal lives to a certain degree, there needs to be a federal decision to legalize same sex marriage. It's a right
everyone deserves.

Paul is also against funding Planned Parenthood aka basic health care rights for women and even men. I understand the value of state rights but
federal involvement is also very important and necessary.

This is why I'm hesitant to vote for someone who has some radical ideas.

Also, Paul is for state rights but bashed Rick Perry (who is the douche of the century) for ordering an executive decision for young girls to get the
HPV vaccine. Perry is the governor of a state. It wasn't a federal issue, it was a state one. Who cares? I found that to be extremely hypocritical on
Paul's part although I understood the doctor's side of the argument completely.

Thats the whole idea of liberty. Ron Paul has a religion that he follows. It is something very personal to him. Nobody has to follow his religion or
go to church on a regular basis in order to get married. There are many churches out there that would marry same sex couples if the law allowed it, as
has happened in areas where it has been legalized. Dr. Paul wants government out of the decision because it should be an individual right. I believe
we don't need the government to tell us that something is OK or not OK. It is up to us the people to make the decision of what is best for us.

Health care is not a right, it is something that either you, your children (eventually), or someone else, will have to pay for. At the present moment
you do however have the right to choose wether or not you carry health insurance. Give Obama or Romney another 4 years and I wouldn't be so sure.

So please tell me how giving us our freedom to choose, without shouldering the burden of others is a radical idea?

Dr. Paul is for the constitution. Mandating that children and young adults get a vaccine without the freedom of the parent or emancipated minors
choice is not following our constitutional rights, and it was a bad idea on Perry's part. So yeah, our rights are being taken away... who cares,
right?

Oh goodness.

Let's not suck off Paul that much, ok?

The idea of marriage isn't committed to organized religion. Two people have a right to engage in marriage if they wish to do so. Having the government
(State or Federal) prohibit you from doing so because of a religious institution is downright backwards and disgusting.

Paul supports the other Republicans when it comes to cutting funding for Planned Parenthood. The idea is insane and idiotic. What did he once say when
it came to health care? Leave it to charities? I lol'd hard at that.

"Mandating that children and young adults get a vaccine without the freedom of the parent or emancipated minors choice is not following our
constitutional rights, "

Get over it. HPV leads to cancer and there's nothing wrong with securing children from getting the virus considering it's highly infectious. It's the
only decent thing Perry ever did.

This is what happens when the mis-informed spout off of things they are not educated on. If you're having difficulty, follow the money, that is the
easiest and usually more accurate way to tell how things really go.

You also need to learn what Planned Parenthood is all about, who started it, and what that person believes in. May you not fall out of your chair and
hurt yourself once you do.

The rest is just opinion and you're granted that, but you're speaking 1/2 truths the entire time. For shame, something about ATS denying something
but I forget.

This is what happens when the mis-informed spout off of things they are not educated on. If you're having difficulty, follow the money, that is the
easiest and usually more accurate way to tell how things really go.

You also need to learn what Planned Parenthood is all about, who started it, and what that person believes in. May you not fall out of your chair and
hurt yourself once you do.

The rest is just opinion and you're granted that, but you're speaking 1/2 truths the entire time. For shame, something about ATS denying something
but I forget.

Someone disagrees with your opinion and they're called uneducated. Ouch. Well, we know where you how you handle criticism of a politician you
like...but I'll bite.

Planned Parenthood has been through much harsh criticism from the right wing media mainly because of abortion procedures, which consists of 3% of
Planned Parenthood's services. But we'll pretend it's big bad and evil because it's more fun that way.

ATS used to be about denying ignorance until the Paulbots sailed in and wrecked the place. I agree with the guy's policies to a certain degree, but
it's a shame this site is full of Paultards. Oh well.

This is what happens when the mis-informed spout off of things they are not educated on. If you're having difficulty, follow the money, that is the
easiest and usually more accurate way to tell how things really go.

You also need to learn what Planned Parenthood is all about, who started it, and what that person believes in. May you not fall out of your chair and
hurt yourself once you do.

The rest is just opinion and you're granted that, but you're speaking 1/2 truths the entire time. For shame, something about ATS denying something
but I forget.

Someone disagrees with your opinion and they're called uneducated. Ouch. Well, we know where you how you handle criticism of a politician you
like...but I'll bite.

Planned Parenthood has been through much harsh criticism from the right wing media mainly because of abortion procedures, which consists of 3% of
Planned Parenthood's services. But we'll pretend it's big bad and evil because it's more fun that way.

ATS used to be about denying ignorance until the Paulbots sailed in and wrecked the place. I agree with the guy's policies to a certain degree, but
it's a shame this site is full of Paultards. Oh well.

I think once people find out about Obama's plan to stay in Afghanistan another 10 years will help RP even more. I think after tonight's announcement
Obama will lose a lot of the fan base except for the shills who pull for him...So this could be another ticket for RP to slide in between and take
center stage...

This will help RP become POTUS, because Obama will lose popularity and no one would want Romney, because Romney would do the same thing if he was in
Obama's shoes...There is light for the good Dr..

Listen, if Ron doesn't win, the Country is going to get worse than it is right now because Obamney definitely doesn't have our best interests at
stake here. Apparently that's what the majority craves so.... what can you do. Harp at us and cut us down when Paul loses and yet turn around and cry
when the Country gets in worse shape.

-okay-

I swear you all are addicted to chaos and control by government.

I still hold hope that the younger gen will keep going how they have been and finally something good will happen when they get to voting ages etc.
They are who we got to rely on now. I hope to heaven a lot of future govt seat holders will have Ron's views (the good ones; not all are great of
course) and we'll weed the nasty out of the senate, HoR, Congress and Potus and FINALLY go back to fully constitutional rights, where WE run the
govt, we hire the govt, we fire the govt, they work for us and talk with us, not us work for them and them talk FOR us.

Somewhere, somehow, the majority of the People forgot that we ARE the govt's employers.

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