And may we also suggest that you please to try to cut down on the "LEE KWAN YEW" "say this and LKY say that.."

To us, LKY is just a good PM for Spore---which is an island of 4 million people --- it is stupid to compare Spore with China ---a self-sufficient continent upon itself---home to 1.3 billion people"

Did I say anything about LKY?

"@ bismarck

Yes, I always provide links to support my conrtentions

And ,...We have enough of your "grandmother " types of self-invented, self-created "Stories" ,---most of which are without any factual basis..

and the rest just nothing but half-truths & insinuations, and fantasies to justify your own theories & agendas"

It's not half truths. You are just copying and pasting. You have mentioned Rushton numerous times, do you hang a poster of him on your wall. This is not the first time. Just because I made a joke at your expense, you start accusing me. Did I attack China in any of my comments for this particular topic? I don't think so.

As for Rushton, he is not a evolutionary biologists, geneticist or an evolutionary anthropologist. He is just a psychologist, with no clinical research background. Have you even read his book "Race, Evolution, and Behavior: A Life History Perspective". I have, ten years ago, even though I am not biologist, I don't disagree/agree with him, but he did not adequately factor out environment.

"Millions of people have viewed Prof Phillippe RUSHTON lecture on "RACE, IQ & National development " at YOUTUBE"

Provide a link I couldn't find it. The one with the most # of views (10000 with most of them loony stormfornters and people in East Asia I sps) is this one. Viewer discretion is advised cuz it's pretty nauseating!

I've no problem with the IQ scores per se. The question is "So wat?". I mean if I ask people from different places to see how high they jump and I do it with a "random sample" wat will it "reveal"? Absolutely nothing. Or maybe (jus maybe!) how they will do in the Olympics high jump event :-)? Same with these IQ scores. National devpt? Don't make me laugh!

On top of that the guy doesn't know f***in diff between mean (average) and median! And he also indulges in sophistry when he implies that mentally retarded people have low IQ (don't know eat that means!) and THERFORE ppl who have a low IQ that includes most of u know who! are retarded.

"BTW, this is all about science & academic research into knowledge"

Yeah jus like eugenics was "scientific" research. Thankfully it has been discredited for decades now. Except maybe in China. Alas one would suppose otherwise considering the racial discrimination they had endured by being called "chink", "slit eyes" and "yellow face".

When we are blaming Chinese Government for laying out anti-human rights
policies, that's fine. But what would we say for a Western Government that rips off even sex rights from those poor Chinese workers?

China has a very good consumer market in Bangladesh. Recently India is also trying to share a slice of the market with a pro Indian government now ruling the country. The 18th months government of Sheikh Hasina has already awarded many projects including huge priting business to India. India wants to oust China from Bangladesh with the support of the government. Garments workers unrest on the street in Bangladesh has generated a feeling that India wants to grab Bangladesh's garments business. By the time, it has been reported in local press that ownership of many garments factories has gone to Indian buyers. There is a strong rumour that many Bangladeshi garments entreprenuers are trying to set up factory in Vietna.

"Of course there are other reasons. But what was China's infrastructure like 40 years ago."

Why go back 40 years? Even 20 years back most of the infra was pretty pathetic. Most of the improvement occured in the 90s. Martin Jacques says that the landscape was changing on a weekly basis! And that reinforces my point. You simply can't do that in a country like India. The systems don't work that way.

" China's literacy rate is 93%, India is 64%. Much of the gain was during the period between 1950-1980."

First point is fine. Second one is debatable. Saying that much more was accomplished in literacy during Mao's era than in the era of flourishing economic growth and trade and commerce is highly controversial. Not at all sure with the Cultural Revolution and all that. Got any sources for that?

In my view economic growth initially atleast drives human capital growth. Of course once a certain level of the latter (call it critical mass if u will) is achieved then there is a positive feedback mechanism with one reinforcing the other.

Quit trolling! You cite three IQ numbers and call that "research". To me they don't mean anything. Given ur penchant for nonsensical one liners it's not surprising.

As for academic freedom that's all nice and dandy bilut there are "ground rules". If someone displays swastikas in his classrom, car and office and glorifies Hitler and Mussolini in his lectures at Harvard he's gonna be booted out b4 he can say "Adolph"! Larry Summers former Treasury Sec was booted out for saying something far more benign!

Let´s hope that workers around the world unite and demand higher wages. The proportion of value added around the world going to corporative mangers, shareholders and bankers has become much to big for the health of the capitalist system. These groups have not been able to keep their consumption as high as their incomes/dividents, so an increasing proportion of value added has been stached away in tax heavens, causing a shortfall in demand for the world production of goods and services. The crisis we are seeing is syptomatic of the basic fault built into the capitalist system, just the way Karl Marx so famously diagnosed it. At last the Economist has seen the light and joins the extreme left´s in supporting that a greater proportion of value added goes to the workers. Congratulations!

You keep bringing up female literacy and willingness of women to work in the factory. While they are important for "quality of life" and HDI metrics. But not so much when it comes to business decisions regarding exports. There are multitudes of other reasons. Like infrastructure, usage of land, labor laws and pettifogging bureaucracy for starters. So I think you and I can agree that India will never replace China as an "exporting hub" but maybe disagree on the reasons. And I don't see why it has to. That doesn't mean there won't be any exports. Jus that the scale and type of exports will be different. Jus wanted to make that clear. Cuz Some people here twist wat u say and come up with statements like "prove to me that there is no intelligence" when I said IQ doesn't mean much!"

Of course there are other reasons. But what was China's infrastructure like 40 years ago. Not very good. It takes alot longer to build the soft stuff (ie human capital) than the hard stuff (ie infrastructure). Those 30 years from 1950-1980 where not all wasted. In 1949, India and China had the same literacy rate. China's literacy rate is 93%, India is 64%. Much of the gain was during the period between 1950-1980.

You keep bringing up female literacy and willingness of women to work in the factory. While they are important for "quality of life" and HDI metrics. But not so much when it comes to business decisions regarding exports. There are multitudes of other reasons. Like infrastructure, usage of land, labor laws and pettifogging bureaucracy for starters. So I think you and I can agree that India will never replace China as an "exporting hub" but maybe disagree on the reasons. And I don't see why it has to. That doesn't mean there won't be any exports. Jus that the scale and type of exports will be different. Jus wanted to make that clear. Cuz Some people here twist wat u say and come up with statements like "prove to me that there is no intelligence" when I said IQ doesn't mean much!

For all that higher IQ the Middle Kingdom was vanquished and humiliated in the Opium Wars. And remember that was jus a precursor cuz most of the country (prosperous regions no one was interested in the sticks) was then carved apart into spheres of influence by the British, French, Japanese and Americans. All that "hundreds of years" exports didn't help either. Something to ponder.

Hopefully China is much more secure now. But it's appalling that in an "air-sea" theatre they don't operate a single CBG as of now. They are building 3 or 6 or 10 or 20 carriers. Yeah right I will believe em when they materialize!

As for apparel industry it's called a "sweatshop" for a reason! Bringing in (high)er IQ is preposterous and ludicrous.

Previously I was jus skeptical of this IQ thing. Now I am convinced it's a pointless measure devised by foggy old psychologists with ample time to spare! Paging First Advisor .... :-)

BTW does Lily Allen have a high IQ? Who gives a ****? She has a beautiful voice. So raw! Peace out.