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What is for sure is that if you give me enough cause to answer the silly trolling to explain the vegan reasoning for animal compassion, good food and ethics then you can be sure that the most emotionally intellectual and logical amongst us will be drawn to being vegan or at least seriously cut down on their consumption of animal products.

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.

What is for sure is that if you give me enough cause to answer the silly trolling to explain the vegan reasoning for animal compassion, good food and ethics then you can be sure that the most emotionally intellectual and logical amongst us will be drawn to being vegan or at least seriously cut down on their consumption of animal products.

Go for it, take the floor
My mind is open and I am willing to be persuaded

When they can match the flavour, texture, succulence etc then yes, I'm in (affordability as well, currently very expensive I believe)...

My understanding of it though is that it's just a mince like substance they can grow now...

For a lot of applications, mince is all you need. Mince and tattie, bolognese, tacos, chillie mince, burgers, sausages. I'd say that is 80% of all meat can be substituted by supermeat. I read that the supermeat that requires the feel and texture of steak is just a matter of development. As costs come down then it becomes affordable. But you will always get a lame-brain who insists on a real carcass.

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.

It would be pretty lame to put an animal through a rape, force-feeding, cramped conditions, filth, and an early painful execution when there are other forms of nutrition.

hahahahaha, what a corker
Can you name me on animal (other than human beings) that give consent to sex?
In all my years on a farm, I can hand on heart say that I have never seen a beast force fed, and I wouldnt call open grazing as cramped or filthy either.
No doubt in some cases they meet their end prematurely but then again the ones that are repeatedly raped live a longer life, its generally the children that get brutally murdered.

hahahahaha, what a corker
Can you name me on animal (other than human beings) that give consent to sex?
In all my years on a farm, I can hand on heart say that I have never seen a beast force fed, and I wouldnt call open grazing as cramped or filthy either.
No doubt in some cases they meet their end prematurely but then again the ones that are repeatedly raped live a longer life, its generally the children that get brutally murdered.

You obviously do not know the process of where your food comes from.

Anyone who tries to artificially inseminate a cow which is unrestrained in a field will get short shrift from the cow. And anyone who stands beside a cow that is restrained in a rape rack during that artificial insemination knows full well the displeasure that the animal goes through. That isn't consent to sex, it is rape.

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.

Anyone who tries to artificially inseminate a cow which is unrestrained in a field will get short shrift from the cow. And anyone who stands beside a cow that is restrained in a rape rack during that artificial insemination knows full well the displeasure that the animal goes through. That isn't consent to sex, it is rape.

And you sir obviously do not know the meaning of rape, a rape is unlawful sexual intercourse of the vagina, anus or mouth of another person, now it has been a few years since I have seen the artificial insemination process but he certainly did not use his penis to carry out the procedure.
Id like to see you call the local AI man a rapist, this has to be one of the most idiotic things I have ever seen on here.
You are obliviously not aware of the male bovine, known as a bull, you may know it as a rape machine who uses his raping rod to impregnate the poor coos with his rape milk.

And you sir obviously do not know the meaning of rape, a rape is unlawful sexual intercourse of the vagina, anus or mouth of another person, now it has been a few years since I have seen the artificial insemination process but he certainly did not use his penis to carry out the procedure.
Id like to see you call the local AI man a rapist, this has to be one of the most idiotic things I have ever seen on here.
You are obliviously not aware of the male bovine, known as a bull, you may know it as a rape machine who uses his raping rod to impregnate the poor coos with his rape milk.

Rape in law only applies to humans, only humans have that legal protection. Animals do not have that legal protection. That is why it is legal to rape a cow.

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
Courage to change the things I can,
And wisdom to know the difference.