You know I followed that post and read it and even replied but missed this bit which was what I was talking about!!

Cheers Bigfella

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mick_in_oz, on 21 Apr 2017 - 20:18, said:

Everything said above is spot on! Listen to Andrew about where they need to be rather than where you feel they fit best.

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As above, align to finish fit all of the front panels, tape on both front flares and spoiler, and stand back and check the bottom side edge of the spoiler sits level with the ground/sill and that the wheel arch of the front flare looks right rather than pointed up towards the front somewhat, like plenty do. You will probably end up with the spoiler low enough to almost or actually be able to see the ground between the indicator cutout and the nose panel, there really will be a gap if the spoiler is sitting about right. Cut the front lower corner off the guard, cut the wheel arch off the guard AS CLOSE AS YOU DARE to the bolt holes, cut off and weld up the Firewall/A Pillar seam, if you have deep dish wheels or a taller tyre combo then maybe take come out of the firewall/pillar area (another 2&quot;), if you get this keen you will have to also cut the lower back corner of the wheel arch off the guard along with more of the flare.

I was going to comment on the pics you put up. The first pic has the flare sitting about right but the bottom of the spoiler is up at the back, bottom of the spoiler not level. The pic of the white car has the flare up to high at the front, but at least the spoiler is level at the bottom

Yes Laurie I have come to the realisation that any thing that was done to these by human hands including sticker location, flares etc could be any where. There really is no right or wrong. I just look at my flare fitment and it annoys me so I'll attempt to refit to level up the flare and spoiler. Mind you having the 10 inch wires on the front doesn't help as the front edge has been hacked out to allow for full lock. I'll source another set of flares and have a play. Another excuse to tinker with the car.

Awesome photos Laurie. Straight to my reference section. Just checked mine and they arnt even close to those measurements. I was worried that when I correct mine I wouldn't cover the old holes but with those measurements I should now cover. The trick now will be to source correct repro flares. Looked at some yesterday that were that thin and flimsy and rubbish.

I can't remember the company name that originally did them, but about 15 years ago i bought a original slr 5000 front spoiler from them, painted it & used the original holes & the fit was almost perfect. I thought they still did the flares & spoilers ? Gary.

They didn't actually supply the A9X original fitment stuff but the goto place all the dealers used to buy replacement gear from was GS Motor Bodies in Sydney, sadly they're closed down now but I did hear somebody claim that they bought all the original GSMB molds, I'll see if I can find their name again?

But their stuff was always spot on, I fitted quite a few of their kits to Torana sedans & hatchbacks over the years, plus an early Commodore SS replica kit and it all went straight on, no cutting or modding required.

But most of the stuff today is junk, molds taken from old parts, whose molds were in turn taken from older parts... it's like copying a VHS tape from another VHS tape, copied from another VHS tape, eventually the end result is useless!

Plus they make them thin and flimsy these days, well they have to really otherwise they won't fit!

Yeah I see what you mean, those seem to be fitted way too high, both front and back, the rear of the flare is supposed to be level with the bottom edge of the guard and the whole front spoiler looks too high.

They almost look like they're mounted too far forward as well, but that may be the wheel alignment settings too (positive caster)? Although the net result is the same.

I'm also seeing all different shapes to the wheel arch openings too. Looking at all the photos above, the back edge of some flares comes straight down vertically, but some open out toward the rear of the car, and others (like Laurie's) seem to curve back toward the wheel at the bottom?

After a bit of searching on the net I think Fibremaster may have purchased GSMB moulds

"Fibremaster started in 1996 developing/producing bodykits for the current models. In 2001 FibreMaster acquired moulds from GS Motorbodies, one of Sydney’s largest bodykit manufacturers that had been established for 38 years. This acquisition added to our already impressive range."

Had a look at Alfa Fibreglass, from the photos on their website it looks like they just do race stuff that doesnt appear to look anything like the originals.

They used to make the original style flares, I bought some rears from them a number of years ago. Would be worth the ask as they were better than some in terms of the amount of material around the mounting tabs and edges, although the shape was not much better than everyone else - will always require some work if you want to clear big wheels and tyres.