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Who or what killed Rin?

Rin's death will likely soon be shown since this should be the trigger that finally creates Tobi from Obito. But who was actually responsible?

Random ninja on a mission - Fits what Obito said to Kakashi. "You let Rin die!" Kakashi wasn't able to protect her when a mission went wrong.

Accidental death - Wasn't killed by any ninja and died perhaps trying to protect Kakashi due to an accident. For example pushing Kakashi out of the way of a rock slide. Which might even tick off Obito more than the first option.

Obito being manipulated - Possible because Kishi LOVES pathos. Would have to be done by Madara through genjutsu.

Kakashi by accident - Kakashi would have to be shown accidentally killing Rin.

Madara - Given his condition, it might seem unlikely. But you can never doubt Madara. The quickest way for him to turn Obito. And the quickest way for Kishi to have Obito turn on Madara if he learns the truth.

Danzou - Well everything bad in Konoha seems to lead back to Danzou. Might as well pin him with this.

Re: Who or what killed Rin?

The worst thing that I think kishimoto could do, and the thing that I think he will do in terms of the story is create an out for Kakashi as far as responsibility to the issue goes. Honestly, I just hope it's not something that makes Obito look more ridiculous than he already does. I guess we have to wait for an explanation though.

Re: Who or what killed Rin?

Originally Posted by offensive bias

Err...if Rin died during the Kyubi attack then what awakened Obito's MS? I thought Rin's death was the favorite candidate reason for MS awakening in Obito.

More weird than that, if Rin died dyring the Kyuubi attack, then what exactly was the reason for Obito going evil? Since he pretty much was already evil at that point, ya know, bringing Kyuubi's out and destroying the village an' ****.

Re: Who or what killed Rin?

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Blood

He awakened it when the rocks were about to bury him, since he slipped right through them and ended up in Madara's lair.
Madara himself hinted at that possibility

I think thats most likely too, but it was observed in the 602 discussion thread that Obito has a two tomoe sharingan so he coudlnt have awakened kamui...theres still the possibility that he uses normal sharingan for kamui....you can catch more of it in that thread.

Re: Who or what killed Rin?

Originally Posted by offensive bias

I think thats most likely too, but it was observed in the 602 discussion thread that Obito has a two tomoe sharingan so he coudlnt have awakened kamui...theres still the possibility that he uses normal sharingan for kamui....you can catch more of it in that thread.

Anyway we know he went from no sharingan to MS in less than a year.

Since when Kishi cares?
Sasuke was ready to kill Naruto and obtain the Mangekyo when he had 2 tomoe as well, the bit about the third-tomoe thing was a never confirmed requirement