ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑The issue with the trans types though is that they come with a propensity for very expensive and time wasting issues which the military can get saddled with. Justicar did a good video on the issue. His argument, which I agree with, is that the military has a duty to be as effective as possible and in accordance with that principle they should not be recruiting from a demographic which is statistically likely to waste resources when there is no need to do so. Trans people are many times more likely to suffer mental issues and once in, the military is saddled with the responsibility to support them if they transition. Increased psychological screening is not a solution because it would impose a great cost and be of dubious effectiveness.

It's a very complex subject, many moving parts, some connected - others not.

When you boil it down to the bones, the Army "line" is pretty standard - we don't care as long as you can do your job. However, I know for a fact, out of sight of the public and media, the actual facts are very different. "Duty of care" is profanity, "bullying" is justified (I agree with this under very specific circumstances) and all of your baggage (anything not-standard) can be used as ammunition to sack you.

Don't forget - there are many ways to skin a cat and the best way is making it skin itself.

Well, as I've said here before: these adverts (and press reports featuring talking heads from the MOD) do not represent the reality of service life. If you join up today, are gay (or trans*) and expect it to be a wonderful world of unicorns, rainbow flags and total acceptance, you just swallowed the bullshit pushed by the MOD marketing board. Well done, you!

Now, if you're quite finished waving your little flag, I've got a few tasks for you...22 years worth of the fuckers.

The issue with the trans types though is that they come with a propensity for very expensive and time wasting issues which the military can get saddled with. Justicar did a good video on the issue. His argument, which I agree with, is that the military has a duty to be as effective as possible and in accordance with that principle they should not be recruiting from a demographic which is statistically likely to waste resources when there is no need to do so. Trans people are many times more likely to suffer mental issues and once in, the military is saddled with the responsibility to support them if they transition. Increased psychological screening is not a solution because it would impose a great cost and be of dubious effectiveness.

Holy fuck - the woman at 02:26 is the spitting image of a pinup my old Sqn adopted - Katrina Hart (I think). I would google-fu it but the missus would get arsey. Anyhoo, luvverly girl, very talented :D

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Fucking Antifa. If they ever came up my way, we'd just shoot 'em.

I can't help but think they're the most counter-productive shower of twats* active today. If you have political axes to grind, smashing up shops and beating the shit out of your ideological "enemy" is not the way forward. Also, when you consider the high percentage of senior academia who're balls-deep in this shit, supposedly intelligent people, it's all very confusing.

Andy Ngo, from what I've seen of him, is a very mild mannered, reasonable and utterly harmless dude. Hell, you could probably flatten him using nothing but harsh language. Yup, those Antifa twats are doing nothing but securing their own downfall. It's only a matter of time until one (or more) of them pulls something truly heinous and their status as terrorists is finalised.

Bhurzum wrote: ↑
I can't help but think they're the most counter-productive shower of twats* active today. If you have political axes to grind, smashing up shops and beating the shit out of your ideological "enemy" is not the way forward...

On the other hand - it's nice that some traditions are preserved.

Bhurzum wrote: ↑
Andy Ngo, from what I've seen of him, is a very mild mannered, reasonable...

Bhurzum wrote: ↑
I can't help but think they're the most counter-productive shower of twats* active today. If you have political axes to grind, smashing up shops and beating the shit out of your ideological "enemy" is not the way forward...

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Fucking Antifa. If they ever came up my way, we'd just shoot 'em.

I can't help but think they're the most counter-productive shower of twats* active today. If you have political axes to grind, smashing up shops and beating the shit out of your ideological "enemy" is not the way forward. Also, when you consider the high percentage of senior academia who're balls-deep in this shit, supposedly intelligent people, it's all very confusing.

Andy Ngo, from what I've seen of him, is a very mild mannered, reasonable and utterly harmless dude. Hell, you could probably flatten him using nothing but harsh language. Yup, those Antifa twats are doing nothing but securing their own downfall. It's only a matter of time until one (or more) of them pulls something truly heinous and their status as terrorists is finalised.

Anarchists have a reputation for doing the precise opposite of building a better world. I'm not sure I would trust their modern counterparts to behave in a peaceful manner.

nb during previous hostilities, even in the Allied countries there was at least some ill-feeling towards the wrong sort of people - eg people of French, German or Japanese descent - sometimes it even resulted in violence or property damage. Nothing I'd kill a monkey over - but people will have to make up their own minds on that.

There's something I've always wondered about Lizzie's birthday parade. What is the proper drill for a Grenadier Guard marching in slow time when a horse has dumped a big steaming load in his way? Serious question. Do you break step or plough through?

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑Fucking Antifa. If they ever came up my way, we'd just shoot 'em.

I can't help but think they're the most counter-productive shower of twats* active today. If you have political axes to grind, smashing up shops and beating the shit out of your ideological "enemy" is not the way forward. Also, when you consider the high percentage of senior academia who're balls-deep in this shit, supposedly intelligent people, it's all very confusing.

Andy Ngo, from what I've seen of him, is a very mild mannered, reasonable and utterly harmless dude. Hell, you could probably flatten him using nothing but harsh language. Yup, those Antifa twats are doing nothing but securing their own downfall. It's only a matter of time until one (or more) of them pulls something truly heinous and their status as terrorists is finalised.

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑There's something I've always wondered about Lizzie's birthday parade. What is the proper drill for a Grenadier Guard marching in slow time when a horse has dumped a big steaming load in his way? Serious question. Do you break step or plough through?

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑
Even without weapons, those douches fight like pansies. But one of these days, they're gonna bring a bike lock to a gun fight. And I will laugh til my sides split.

Antifa are terrorists.

Pro-tip: If you find yourself* near a riot, move away from it as quickly as possible! No swan-necking, no pausing to film it on your phone, don't start asking people what's happening - get the fuck out of there best speed! You'll be able to satisfy your curiosity later from the comfort and safety of your own home.

Note: there are no innocent people in a riot - the simple act of being there makes you part of the problem.

* There are several elements to a riot:

1) Instigators

These are the real culprits, the bastards who keep the crowd riled up and have probably organised the whole thing. These "players" should be the main effort of the security forces - they always lurk near the back of the mob, rarely get their hands dirty and if you know your stuff, are very easy to spot.

2) Movers

The foot-soldiers who pass-on and enact the orders of the instigators. They also try to draw in more people, goad the security forces into media traps and attempt to keep the crowd hostile. Not usually as numerous as you'd think and should be hoovered up whenever possible. I have zero sympathy for these bastards and would happily beat the shit out of them as part of the capture process - a proper going over, broken bones, plenty of blood loss and nightmares that will stay with them for life.

3) Sheep (not the internet trend/name, we've been calling them "sheep" since forever)

This is you. You wander into the crowd, choose to linger, you're part of the problem. Without the sheep, the instigators and movers are fucked! No crowd to hide behind, no mass of bodies to melt into, no sweaty wall of clueless civvies to recruit from. Even if you throw no bricks, chant no mantras, smash no windows and simply follow the crowd, you're enabling the real culprits and allowing them to wreak havoc. You are guilty. You deserve every baton-strike you get. Fuck you.

Final point: If you're at a legit and peaceful protest - all power to you! I salute your political efforts (even if I don't agree with them) and the fact that you're capable of acting like a civilized human being. However, the instant the atmosphere changes and civil disorder rears its ugly head, you need to get out of there. If there's any doubt, there's no doubt! Hanging around for five minutes could change your life.

These are the real culprits, the bastards who keep the crowd riled up and have probably organised the whole thing. These "players" should be the main effort of the security forces - they always lurk near the back of the mob, rarely get their hands dirty and if you know your stuff, are very easy to spot.

2) Movers

The foot-soldiers who pass-on and enact the orders of the instigators. They also try to draw in more people, goad the security forces into media traps and attempt to keep the crowd hostile. Not usually as numerous as you'd think and should be hoovered up whenever possible. I have zero sympathy for these bastards and would happily beat the shit out of them as part of the capture process - a proper going over, broken bones, plenty of blood loss and nightmares that will stay with them for life.

3) Sheep (not the internet trend/name, we've been calling them "sheep" since forever)

This is you. You wander into the crowd, choose to linger, you're part of the problem. Without the sheep, the instigators and movers are fucked! No crowd to hide behind, no mass of bodies to melt into, no sweaty wall of clueless civvies to recruit from. Even if you throw no bricks, chant no mantras, smash no windows and simply follow the crowd, you're enabling the real culprits and allowing them to wreak havoc. You are guilty. You deserve every baton-strike you get. Fuck you.

Solid approach. It's been used before:

At this the multitude had indignation; and when Pilate was come to Jerusalem, they came about his tribunal, and made a clamor at it. Now when he was apprized aforehand of this disturbance, he mixed his own soldiers in their armor with the multitude, and ordered them to conceal themselves under the habits of private men, and not indeed to use their swords, but with their staves to beat those that made the clamor. He then gave the signal from his tribunal [to do as he had bidden them]. Now the Jews were so sadly beaten, that many of them perished by the stripes they received, and many of them perished as trodden to death by themselves; by which means the multitude was astonished at the calamity of those that were slain, and held their peace.

These are the real culprits, the bastards who keep the crowd riled up and have probably organised the whole thing. These "players" should be the main effort of the security forces - they always lurk near the back of the mob, rarely get their hands dirty and if you know your stuff, are very easy to spot.

2) Movers

The foot-soldiers who pass-on and enact the orders of the instigators. They also try to draw in more people, goad the security forces into media traps and attempt to keep the crowd hostile. Not usually as numerous as you'd think and should be hoovered up whenever possible. I have zero sympathy for these bastards and would happily beat the shit out of them as part of the capture process - a proper going over, broken bones, plenty of blood loss and nightmares that will stay with them for life.

3) Sheep (not the internet trend/name, we've been calling them "sheep" since forever)

This is you. You wander into the crowd, choose to linger, you're part of the problem. Without the sheep, the instigators and movers are fucked! No crowd to hide behind, no mass of bodies to melt into, no sweaty wall of clueless civvies to recruit from. Even if you throw no bricks, chant no mantras, smash no windows and simply follow the crowd, you're enabling the real culprits and allowing them to wreak havoc. You are guilty. You deserve every baton-strike you get. Fuck you.

Final point: If you're at a legit and peaceful protest - all power to you! I salute your political efforts (even if I don't agree with them) and the fact that you're capable of acting like a civilized human being. However, the instant the atmosphere changes and civil disorder rears its ugly head, you need to get out of there. If there's any doubt, there's no doubt! Hanging around for five minutes could change your life.

/rant

In the early 1970's my father and I used to walk for some miles along the base of the escarpment upon which sat The Ridgeway. On a Sunday morning we would be dropped off by my mother in her three-cylinder two-stroke Saab a little south of Draycot Foliat and then tramp across to Hackpen to be picked up in time for the roast. This took us along the southern edge of an ostensibly abandoned army base at Ogbourne (I believe the 101st Airborne were there in the run up to D-Day). One day we saw something strange going on - soldiers, civilians, dogs and LandRovers play acting around the old asbestos huts. Lots of smoke and blank rounds being fired. 'They're practicing for Northern Ireland' said my father. We watched for a while as the 'civilians' marched between huts and were halted or diverted by the soldiers.

Recently I came across a documentary about the senior army officers that were on the verge of carrying out a coup against the 70's Wilson government. It was suggested there that these exercises were intended to train troops for crowd control on the mainland, and were linked to the simultaneous exercise where the army took control of Heathrow. I dunno if any of that is true, much of it being fuelled by Wilson's own odd leaks to BBC journalists about the plots against him. He was already dementing and perhaps was not reliable.

I'm glad to hear the army is still training people in riot control in a semi-scientific way, rather than brute force and lots of it. It's always a little shocking to a civilian to discover how much the armed forces know about these things, but reassuring that they do.

Matt Cavanaugh wrote: ↑
Even without weapons, those douches fight like pansies. But one of these days, they're gonna bring a bike lock to a gun fight. And I will laugh til my sides split.

Antifa are terrorists.

Pro-tip: If you find yourself* near a riot, move away from it as quickly as possible! No swan-necking, no pausing to film it on your phone, don't start asking people what's happening - get the fuck out of there best speed! You'll be able to satisfy your curiosity later from the comfort and safety of your own home.

Note: there are no innocent people in a riot - the simple act of being there makes you part of the problem.

* There are several elements to a riot:

1) Instigators

These are the real culprits, the bastards who keep the crowd riled up and have probably organised the whole thing. These "players" should be the main effort of the security forces - they always lurk near the back of the mob, rarely get their hands dirty and if you know your stuff, are very easy to spot.

2) Movers

The foot-soldiers who pass-on and enact the orders of the instigators. They also try to draw in more people, goad the security forces into media traps and attempt to keep the crowd hostile. Not usually as numerous as you'd think and should be hoovered up whenever possible. I have zero sympathy for these bastards and would happily beat the shit out of them as part of the capture process - a proper going over, broken bones, plenty of blood loss and nightmares that will stay with them for life.

3) Sheep (not the internet trend/name, we've been calling them "sheep" since forever)

This is you. You wander into the crowd, choose to linger, you're part of the problem. Without the sheep, the instigators and movers are fucked! No crowd to hide behind, no mass of bodies to melt into, no sweaty wall of clueless civvies to recruit from. Even if you throw no bricks, chant no mantras, smash no windows and simply follow the crowd, you're enabling the real culprits and allowing them to wreak havoc. You are guilty. You deserve every baton-strike you get. Fuck you.

Final point: If you're at a legit and peaceful protest - all power to you! I salute your political efforts (even if I don't agree with them) and the fact that you're capable of acting like a civilized human being. However, the instant the atmosphere changes and civil disorder rears its ugly head, you need to get out of there. If there's any doubt, there's no doubt! Hanging around for five minutes could change your life.

/rant

Can't argue with the logic of that. Good advice if you are able to follow it. My issue with that is that things can reach the point where you will never be able to hold a demo if the opposition (AntiFa) learns that all they have to do is start a bit of aggro and everyone fucks off. Sometimes it isn't easy to slip away without running into a wall of police horses, shields and batons because the police sometimes exercise some rather odd methods of crowd "control".

ThreeFlangedJavis wrote: ↑There's something I've always wondered about Lizzie's birthday parade. What is the proper drill for a Grenadier Guard marching in slow time when a horse has dumped a big steaming load in his way? Serious question. Do you break step or plough through?

Plough through and pray that it only happens after the inspection.

The question first occurred to when watching the ToC and a line of Guards were slow marching toward a mound of horseshit. I didn't see how it could end up without some shit covered boots and trousers. They didn't show the outcome.

screwtape wrote: ↑I'm glad to hear the army is still training people in riot control in a semi-scientific way, rather than brute force and lots of it. It's always a little shocking to a civilian to discover how much the armed forces know about these things, but reassuring that they do.

Hi Bitches... I am back on social media returning from my sabbatical. I highly recommend taking a social media break once in a while. When I now return to social media I am again reminded that most people are ignorant, thoughtless, idiots, and that I really don't care for them or like them.

The most privileged can only post about how much they suffer.

The most selfish post about how important it is to just call a friend and see how they are doing.

The most ignorant post about how they could improve the world if only they were king.

The most blinkered-idiots post every day about their food. (I confess that I prefer the blinkered-idiots to the rest of the lot).

Haha. I realize I am most satisfied when I just stay away from most folks.... or when I laugh at their shenanigans on the Maury Show...... "When it comes to 18 month old Shanynay.... Leroy.... you ARE the father!" (followed by screaming and jumping around. Now that's entertainment!)

I open Tardbook to see my daughter moaning and weeping about how sad she is that she didn't do more for "Pride" and how depressed it makes her.... and I think... yeah... it doesn't depress you that you owe me $3000. It depresses you that the army doesn't allow mentally ill people with body dysphoria to defend our country. Haha.... Jesus.

I did get a big laugh out of the debates. I cheated a bit here since I was not supposed to watch the news... but hell.... the debates are not news... they are a circus sideshow. Uncle Joe is a joke.... he couldn't defend his extensive civil rights record against a woman whose family owned slaves. Joe is such an old school pussy of a politician he is going to walk around with someone's boot in his ass for the whole campaign. Very entertaining. All the talking heads love them some Kamala Harris! Fantastic.... the dems are going to possibly run another "non-African" black person just like Obama.... the least Black American in America running for pres. How spectacular. Her parents were Jamaican and East Indian educators (some of whom owned slaves) and she was a government prosecutor. Who knows... maybe she would be an okay president.... who can tell how she would really govern.

People forget the game in presidential politics. You run to the base for the primary and then run to the middle for the election. The trick is to not lose your story in the process. Hillary botched this badly because she had to keep running more and more left to beat Bernie and then she lost what little cred she had with the middle. The middle just didn't show up. Well... she did a bunch of other shit wrong too... like implying that half the country are "deplorable".

Looks like not much happened here on the pit... regular SJW yucks. I am reminded that I am glad to not be British. It feels like everyone in the UK is a tepid cup of weak tea and a few flavorless biscuits. WTF.... the Brits used to be the funny people.... they invented punk rock. WTF happened???? The Smollett story is still fantastic. Boobs are great.. too bad I am too old to attract a nice set of tits without spending money. I am really frugal so that means no tits for me.

“… Proud Boys, a far-right group … Antifa, a coalition of left-leaning activists….”

“… Quillette, a conservative website….”

Twat.

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This makes it official. I must be a right-wing conservative (just like Dave Rubin, Tim Pool, Scott Adams, etc.). I think it is easier for me to just own the title. Everyone in the media wants to call me one so I must be one. I am also apparently a misogynist, homophobe, and racist. I hope to make this clear to everyone going forward.

On a side note.... my poly-pan daughter absolutely HATES Quillette. She can't even read the first paragraph of most articles without having a rage induced crying breakdown. It actually makes me very sad for her... and our relationship. She gave me quite an insight the other day..... I said to her that I thought her philosophy and ideas about how the world work are not accurate and that I felt she was dishonest with me. She told me that she can't live in the real world without lying and pretending the world is different. She explained that if she can't live believing the world works the way she wants, then she doesn't want to live. (She must get this shit from her mother).

That text would be small on a laser-printed phone bill. Let-alone screen-printed cotton.

I smell Freudian Repression in the word gay being hidden back in the ol' closet.

Also-- same frumpy middle-class sense of 'propriety'... which is right-behind the veneer of radical progress... in all sorts of SJW-ism.
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My girlfriend started Pride-Day before dawn-- she was working on a cosmetics company's street booth-- a bunch of make-up stations putting glitter & shit on faces. Her site got an early visit from volunteers in color-coded volunteer t-shirts. The volunteer forewarned her that saying "you guys" was incorrect, and the correct phrase is "you all". She called & told me that as I drank morning coffee, which soured the start of my day.

Hours later, I arrived at 30th & Park Ave... where my booze-company client was assigned to stage our marchers. Right away-- I saw a ragtag platoon of volunteer t-shirts. Oh man... I still feel grimy thinking of them. There was a 6-foot-5 tall rugged guy-- in Harley Quinn cosplay-- with a blonde wig and Daddy's Little Monster t-shirt, fishnets,... and a serious tuck hiding his man-parts behind a tight shiny unitard crotch-panel. Actually... he was alright. He didn't change his costume in favor of the cheap-authority of the official t-shirt. But the other ones looked like assisted-living-actual-retards. Especially this one... which I would describe as Barney the drunk from the Simpsons-- but a caveman version-- cartoon overbite also asymmetrical like a picasso painting-- not-fat... but still flabby/dull greasy hair/ fish-white-purple skin/ sparse-but-everywhere body-hair... especially down the inner-thighs to knees... pouring out of it's schoolgirl skirt. Danielle Muscato looks like Raquel Welch, in comparison.

But here's the good news: if you put on event with 3 million people... you lose the ability to micromanage whether they call it a 'parade' instead of a 'march'. You can't make them not-say 'you guys'. You can't make them do anything they don't want to-- which is just dress for a festive party and act loose. There was some anti-trump signage, but not much. Some black lives matter crap, but not much. SJWs have to keep their club small to enforce hardcore political correctness.

I didn't bother to tell those dumb bitches... the the Stonewall Riot was actually started by a straight white man who looked like Charles Manson... who was a member of the radical agitator group called Up Against The Wall Motherfucker. He threw the first bottle over the drag queens, at the cops... to incite the cops to charge. the Motherfuckers' credo was 'political consciousness comes from a cop's nightstick hitting your skull'.
Accelerationist Trolls, basically. Cunts.

One early sighting which made me do a doubletake... was this time-traveller in actual combat boots & amish-looking dress & bonnet:

See the black/grey/white/& purple flag tucked into her collar? For a moment I thought, "Wait... is that the Polyamory flag?! Is she a renegade mormon marching for her sisterwives & masterhusband's right to a Traditional Lifestyle?!!"

Nope. She was with the Quaker group. They're proud of being all-inclusive. But... get this... her flag is the ASEXUALITY flag!

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We spent hours stuck at our staging-area. I went to the drug store & bought a beer. Stood in line with a half-dozen FBI agents in cut-off shorts-- with handcuffs & guns & a logo which would make J. Edgar Hoover clutch his pearls with pride! Definitely the most fuckable group I saw.

The sun went down by the time my group actually started marching. We shrunk from over 250 people to maybe 50-- as people realized there was little benefit in waiting to march as a group... they could just wander-away & look-around, or start marching with whatever-group was already going.

The 2 & 1/2 mile walk was kinda fun. Our male dancers were gaylords. But our female ones were just healthy doublejointed sluts. Our celebrity was dressed like the statue of liberty-- which surely was intended to have some anti-trump immigration undertone. Parade watchers went genuinely-nuts when they saw our celeb-- I guess she made an impression on RuPaul's Drag Race.

I ducked wearing the orange shirt-- in favor of a tanktop with the booze company's logo. & some spanglish rainbow text apparently written by Beto O'Roarke. OUR VODKA ES SU VODKA. I guess they didn't get the memo about pronouns. What about the plural-pronoun-people? SUS VODKA, you bigots!!! Or polite-formal-gender-neutral: NEUSTRXS VODKA I looked like a classic type of seedy old gay dude... trucker cap, cut offs, tank top... I hoped it was gay-enough for me to leer at tits with no pokerface. Most of the exposed tits were awful, actually.
I guess I coulda put glitter & rainbow shit all over me... to look gay enough to shriek things like "GURL YOUR VAGINA SMELLS FIERCE!!!"

The parade route was a nice stroll thru place I've spent decades. I thought about friends dead from AIDS & years spent with a mostly-gay crew that danced in nightclubs. At least half the march-- I was focussed on making-sure inattentive people weren't crushed by the truck pulling our float. People would just stop for a selfie in the middle of the road, expecting the truck to slam on it's brakes & expecting the whole parade to wait for them to post the pic. Outrageous.

Service Dog wrote: ↑I looked like a classic type of seedy old gay dude... trucker cap, cut offs, tank top... I hoped it was gay-enough for me to leer at tits with no pokerface. Most of the exposed tits were awful, actually.
I guess I coulda put glitter & rainbow shit all over me... to look gay enough to shriek things like "GURL YOUR VAGINA SMELLS FIERCE!!!"

John D wrote: ↑
Hi Bitches... I am back on social media returning from my sabbatical.

Welcome back. I thought of you & your sabbatical... when I posted this link a couple days ago. If online discussions were all like this one... you wouldn't have to take a sabbatical. And yet... this is the type of discussion which is now flagged by algorithms as dangerous & in-need of censoring.