60niners wrote:I won't be all broken up if the Niners don't come away with a win. These teams are fairly even and the home team should win 9/10 times.

This is how I feel about the game later in the year at SF. I will gladly take 1-1 against Frisco and focus on maybe sweeping the rest of the NFCW

Don't count on sweeping the rest of the NFCW. Cards with Palmer look entirely different and Bradford has weapons. Could this be a year when every NFC West team goes 1-1 against the division? I wouldn't be surprised...which is surprising.

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If you win, you get to rub it in our faces under the guise of: "I never thought."

And if you lose, you can avoid eating crow.

LOL.

If thats how you choose to see it.

No...seriously...these are 2 very evenly matched teams. I'm confident in my team tho so on a neutral field or at the 'stick, I take SF every day.

In that building tho...its a different story. The D gets an extra step because of the noise. Play calls need to be trimmed. Its a real factor.

BTW...I have no problem eating crow. I've never guaranteed a win all off-season. I've always respected the Seahawks but defended the Niners. I've always viewed Seattle as the SECOND best team in the NFL.

No shame in admitting that I think Seattle will win in their fortress of sound.

Ya not expecting a win, but expecting/hoping for a closer match up than last time. We aren't quite as banged up, Colin isn't going into his 6th start, so I expect a closer end score.

Our defense looks suspect. GB put up plenty of points and yards, it is Aaron Rodgers... but still suspect secondary. Although Reid showed bright signs. D line got little pressure on Aaron and that is one crappy Oline to not penetrate. I do not worry about teams that are more one dimensional. (Think last year teams of Packers, Pats, Saints). We do not match up well against more balanced teams. Teams with good D, good running game, decent throwing, and the ability to wear down the clock are what worry me. Teams that can beat us at our own game. (Think last year teams of Vikes, Ravens, Giants). Now take a Seattle team that has all the above but excel in more than one area, add in the home field advantage and it just equate to expecting to come home with the W.

So a win on the road against a stellar home team with very loud stadium, it just isn't plausible to expect a win... just for a good fight.

60niners wrote:I won't be all broken up if the Niners don't come away with a win. These teams are fairly even and the home team should win 9/10 times.

This is how I feel about the game later in the year at SF. I will gladly take 1-1 against Frisco and focus on maybe sweeping the rest of the NFCW

Don't count on sweeping the rest of the NFCW. Cards with Palmer look entirely different and Bradford has weapons. Could this be a year when every NFC West team goes 1-1 against the division? I wouldn't be surprised...which is surprising.

I'm definitely not counting on it, but I think 12-4 gets HFA this year because all the divisions are so tough in the NFC. This means that we need 8-0 at home and four road wins. We have three left to get now, and STL/ARZ represent two of the easier shots at road wins that we have left. That ARZ game is on a Thursday night, though, which is irritating. Man, I hate Thursday night games.

Don't forget the Niners also played an insane number of downs against the Patriots in the week prior to the last meeting in between traveling across three timezones twice in the span of a few days. They'll be rested and amped up this time.

Hawks may not see much of a pass rush improvement from last week either. Clem and Avril won't be playing their best (if they even play) after missing the first four preseason games and the season opener.

Don't forget the Niners also played an insane number of downs against the Patriots in the week prior to the last meeting in between traveling across three timezones twice in the span of a few days. They'll be rested and amped up.

We may not see much of a pass rush improvement from last week either. Clem and Avril won't be playing their best (if they even play) after missing the first four preseason games and the season opener.

This game could be decided on four or five key plays.

LOL.

This thread is like my last 3 or 4 months on this forum in reverse. I've made that argument before about the number of plays, Justin injury, and travelling back from NE and been shot down in a big way.

No worries.

Yes, I agree with what you've said which is why I think the game will be far closer...but in the end I think it's too much to expect a win in that building. Even when the Seahawks weren't very good they were a tough out up there. CAN the the Niners win? Of course. Just sayin I predict Seattle wins this one.

I don't see Seattle losing either game. If the first game was at Candle[crap], then I might write this one off as a loss, but we're going to get better as the season goes along just like 2011 and 2012.

Especially with Harvin. The 9ers need to take this one now, IMO.

Marvin49 wrote:

Sarlacc83 wrote:So, basically this is a no-lose proposition.

If you win, you get to rub it in our faces under the guise of: "I never thought."

And if you lose, you can avoid eating crow.

LOL.

If thats how you choose to see it.

Why are you even remotely surprised I have a dim view of 49ers fans ulterior motives?

Sarlacc83 wrote:I don't see Seattle losing either game. If the first game was at Candle[crap], then I might write this one off as a loss, but we're going to get better as the season goes along just like 2011 and 2012.

Especially with Harvin. The 9ers need to take this one now, IMO.

Marvin49 wrote:

Sarlacc83 wrote:So, basically this is a no-lose proposition.

If you win, you get to rub it in our faces under the guise of: "I never thought."

And if you lose, you can avoid eating crow.

LOL.

If thats how you choose to see it.

Why are you even remotely surprised I have a dim view of 49ers fans ulterior motives?

I'm not.

I don't think they "need" it, but it would be huge if they got it. They might be better later with Harvin, but I'm more worried about a Harvin-less team in Seattle than a team with harvin in SF.

Hopefully, Crabtree will be back by then as well. Not counting on it though.

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The Hawks need to win this thing, though. That would give them a VERY good shot at 4-1 through the first five, maybe 5-0 if we can figure out how to play offense on the road.

After week one, the schedule looks much less scary, too. @ATL, NO, @SF look like the biggest challenges. I think the Giants probably are pretty mediocre, and I think the Texans and Colts can both be had on the road. This schedule looked insanely hard before the season started, but after the first week, I think it's been downgraded to merely "challenging."

If you win, you get to rub it in our faces under the guise of: "I never thought."

And if you lose, you can avoid eating crow.

Yup, you nailed it. I see it this way as well. Set's it up nicely for a fan, especially in a forum setting like this. Plus, it allowed for Niner fans to chime in further to say that the location is the only reason the Hawks would win against what they say is an otherwise superior team. How very patronizing.

Still, I can grant some sincerity to it. So, not just looking to rip apart everything Niner fans say. But, come on man... of course the 12th man makes it a tough place to play. No one needs to be reminded of that.

In all honesty, I'm not into predictions. To me, they're pretty silly - as if someone actually knows the future. Are they just so one can say, "I told you so!"? Yeah, whatever.

Each team knows each others' strengths and weaknesses. It seems like the Hawks have a few more question marks going into this game that concern me a bit - on both the offensive and defensive lines. I sure hope for a win b/c I don't want to hear the nonsense from the Niner fanbase if their team steals a win against a quite possibly somewhat more depleted team. If some of those guys are active (Browner, Avril, Clemons), are they 100%? We've got some new pieces in place that take time to gel. Of course so do the Niners, but it doesn't invalidate where the Seahawks are at as a team at this point. It's early and they are still working on some things. The injury bug has tempered my confidence.

I think I might actually be more confident going into Candlestick than I am about this Sunday's game. By then, this team could be at full strength. If this Seahawks team can start 4-0, they are going to start getting players back and get stronger and stronger as the year unfolds. It's the early part of the season that has me feeling a bit unsettled. I know the Niners are a formidable team and so they give me a bit more concern than other teams might. But, seems like this Hawks team plays their best against better competition. I don't know if I can honestly say it will be a fun game to watch. Really, it's a quest for dominance in the NFC West. Ultimately, it's no fun at all unless the Hawks win. This is an important divisional game for a Seahawks team with championship aspirations.

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Sgt. Largent wrote:I think the Hawks will win, but I always pick the Hawks to win at home.

I do expect this game to be much much closer than last year's 49'er beat down at home though, especially if Kaep doesn't turn the ball over. So I expect a more conservative game plan out of Harbaugh than he brought in last year. He's not going to put too much on Kaepernick's plate, expect a lot of running and playing the field position game unless you get behind early.

I think the 49ers will give the Hawks a much better challenge than Carolina. However, the 12th man is to be feared and respected. I believe that the Seattle 12th man is formidable and equals a touchdown advantage.

The only chance for a 49er win is to control the clock with the run and hope the 49er line dominates the line of scrimmage on first down so that 2nd and 3rd downs are short downs. Finally, if the 49er special teams makes *one* mistake - it's game over. Miss a field goal, allow a return past the 50, or a bad punt - that will be the difference in the game. I think the Hawks can afford to give one turnover and still win the game, but if the 49ers make *one* turnover - it's over.

AbsolutNET wrote:I think you're overestimating our early season offense. I would be shocked if we scored 31 points

I just don't see Carpenter or Sweezy having much success against SF. I dont think the offense is going to roll like last year.

Sweezy and Carpenter definitely will be facing a challenge. Backtiari (Green Bay's rookie left tackle) did a decent job against Aldon and Justin. I suspect Sweezy and Carpenter will do well in pass protection, simply because Wilson is so hard to sack and is mobile, so the D Line Rush can't sell out and penetrate - but have to contain rush. They may have trouble on the run blocking though - the 49er D Line is very hard to block.

The season is early. There is a lot of unknowns on both sides of the ball on both teams. I think both fan bases won't know who is at all pro and who has declined until game 4. By then we have some sort of statistical base to see how each player is doing.

It's going to be a good game, and I think there is a very good chance the 12th man will have their Guiness record by the end of the game.

60niners wrote:I won't be all broken up if the Niners don't come away with a win. These teams are fairly even and the home team should win 9/10 times.

This is how I feel about the game later in the year at SF. I will gladly take 1-1 against Frisco and focus on maybe sweeping the rest of the NFCW

Same here

Do I expect the Niners to win on SNF this week? Nope!

Do I think that the Niners have a chance to win this week? Yep!

I respect your 12th man advantage way too much to allow myself to get mad about a 1-1 start to the season after what I believe to be the toughest part of our schedule, knowing that we won't have to play in C-link this season again thanks to our easier schedule compared to yours.

However if we do win this Sunday night, I think there will be little doubt across the league, and even amongst those on here, that the NFCW and home filed advantage is ours for the taking.

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DISCLAIMER:

The trash talking that I do occasionally this week is strictly for gamesmanship between opposing fanbases as a result of our upcoming matchup this week on SNF. It by no means should be taken personally.

AbsolutNET wrote:I think you're overestimating our early season offense. I would be shocked if we scored 31 points

I just don't see Carpenter or Sweezy having much success against SF. I dont think the offense is going to roll like last year.

If Carroll and Bevell come out and continue to stubbornly try to run the ball against a defense that is clearly set on stopping the run like they did for 3 quarters in Carolina? Then yes, you're right.

Carroll at his presser yesterday; "We didn’t zero in early enough, where we could make the adjustments that we normally make. It just took us a while. At the end of the game, we were able to run the ball enough to make the drives that we needed and things worked out. It just took us longer than we needed in that game in particular.”

So yeah if we get off to another slow start like we seem to always do, then this is going to be a dog fight til the end. But if Pete let's Russell come out throwing downfield and make pass plays? Then that'll loosen up the run game, and we should win going away.

Totally a trap. I would know since I do the exact same thing to my friends when I'm concerned about a game and don't wanna listen to all their trash talking after the fact. You cover yourself either way, either your team loses due to the reasons you presented ahead of time, or your team wins and then get to brag about it TWICE as much due to the reasons you presented ahead of time why they shouldn't be winning the game. I was already doing it this past Sunday watching at my buddy's house who's a diehard Panthers fan. I must've brought up 4 missing defensive starters, 10 am start, and 90 degree heat 5 times each prior to kickoff. Lol

I think Kaepernick handled last year's game about as poorly as he could. He's come a long way since then, so my gut feeling is that SF is good for 2, maybe 3 TDs. I also think Harbaugh has a secret weapon waiting for us. Some new wrinkle that he planned this offseason for just this game.

Seattle has the matchup advantage and is at home. They will probably win. But I think it will be a very competitive game, and I expect the 49ers will hold leads during the game.

I hope Boldin gets locked down by Browner and does jack diddly poo as Jim Mora Sr. would say. Not only because it would be huge for a Seattle win, but it might coax his fantasy owner from my league into trading him off his bench. Having watched that Packers game, I think Boldin is very much back to his old form. He looked like a 1400 yard, 13 TD WR to me.

kearly wrote:I also think Harbaugh has a secret weapon waiting for us. Some new wrinkle that he planned this offseason for just this game.

Guy doesn't like to lose. I'd be surprised if he didn't have something planned. Am I crazy for not worrying that much about the 49er passing game this week? My only concern is whether or not our line play will be good enough to get the job done.

kearly wrote:I think Kaepernick handled last year's game about as poorly as he could. He's come a long way since then, so my gut feeling is that SF is good for 2, maybe 3 TDs. I also think Harbaugh has a secret weapon waiting for us. Some new wrinkle that he planned this offseason for just this game.

Agree with this. Like him or not, Kaepernick improved a lot this offseason. He won't be as rattled this time, and has a better rapport with Davis.

And yes Douchebaugh is going to try to run a trick play or fake punt to take the crowd out of the game early. Too bad it won't work.

kearly wrote: I also think Harbaugh has a secret weapon waiting for us. Some new wrinkle that he planned this offseason for just this game.

I really sincerely strongly doubt that. In now way whatsoever do I think Harbaugh or the 9ers were holding things back and looking past the Packers. I can say for certain the fanbase wasn't. The Packers last year, like the Seahawks, finished 11-5 and lost in the diviosonal round. Why in the world would you not do everything you possibly could to beat them?

As far Harb's "secret weapons" and 9ers fans trying to "trap" Hawks fans by saying the Hawks have a great chance of winning this weekend and are rightly the favorites -- and I say this in good spirit and lovingly -- your guys' (deserved) very high expectations and dueling Seattle-Sports-Victim-Complexes are SUPER entertaining. Like, seriously, it's really entertaining, and I'm seriously not poking fun or trying to be a jerk about it. It's as endearing as it is bizarre.

As for the actual game, and again this is not a trap, I'd be surprised if the 9ers win. I'm hoping the 9ers go 3-2 through these first 5 games, and I wouldn't even be too upset if they go 2-3. I've always had this game penciled in as a loss for the 9ers. I think the only thing that would really concern me is if the 9ers get blown out. If they just lose though, I'm fine with that, and I'm expecting them to win at home later this year.

The one thing I will say though is that if the Hawks do end up losing this game, I think the team, and in particular the fanbase, has waaaayyyy tooooo muuuuccchhhhh invested right now in what is ultimately just a regular season game. Any given Sunday, right? I think in your excitement you guys might emotionally have too much riding on this one, particularly given that a team that's rightly supposed to win (such as the Hawks this weekend) can routinely end up losing over something as meaningless as a few bounces randomly not going their way.

kearly wrote: I also think Harbaugh has a secret weapon waiting for us. Some new wrinkle that he planned this offseason for just this game.

I really sincerely strongly doubt that. In now way whatsoever do I think Harbaugh or the 9ers were holding things back and looking past the Packers. I can say for certain the fanbase wasn't. The Packers last year, like the Seahawks, finished 11-5 and lost in the diviosonal round. Why in the world would you not do everything you possibly could to beat them?

As far Harb's "secret weapons" and 9ers fans trying to "trap" Hawks fans by saying the Hawks have a great chance of winning this weekend and are rightly the favorites -- and I say this in good spirit and lovingly -- your guys' (deserved) very high expectations and dueling Seattle-Sports-Victim-Complexes are SUPER entertaining. Like, seriously, it's really entertaining, and I'm seriously not poking fun or trying to be a jerk about it. It's as endearing as it is bizarre.

As for the actual game, and again this is not a trap, I'd be surprised if the 9ers win. I'm hoping the 9ers go 3-2 through these first 5 games, and I wouldn't even be too upset if they go 2-3. I've always had this game penciled in as a loss for the 9ers. I think the only thing that would really concern me is if the 9ers get blown out. If they just lose though, I'm fine with that, and I'm expecting them to win at home later this year.

The one thing I will say though is that if the Hawks do end up losing this game, I think the team, and in particular the fanbase, has waaaayyyy tooooo muuuuccchhhhh invested right now in what is ultimately just a regular season game. Any given Sunday, right? I think in your excitement you guys might emotionally have too much riding on this one, particularly given that a team that's rightly supposed to win (such as the Hawks this weekend) can routinely end up losing over something as meaningless as a few bounces randomly not going their way.

Actually I'm pretty damn sure there will be a surprise. Roman does it almost EVERY week.

From rolling our the Pistol in the playoffs (ran it earlier as well but nowhere near as often as in the playoffs), throwing passes to Isaac Sopoaga or Joe Staley, running a bootleg with Alex Smith...something. They always have something different planned every week.

This is my 1st post since the OP.. My belief that the Hawks are going to win and the expression of that belief isn't a "trap." It's just the truth. Sure, if the 49ers win I am going to come on this board and claim that the 49ers are better than I and the rest of the Hawks fans thought. This is by far the 49ers hardest game on the schedule. It's only reasonable to expect a loss. If the 49ers miraculously pull off a victory, I think you are looking at a 13-3 finish for the 49ers. Maybe even better.

But the whole point of this thread is to make 3 points:(1) 49ers fans on this board get a ton of hate. Some of it is justified: like when we derail threads. Nevertheless, we also get accused of not knowing anything about football and being blind homers. Which is pretty ridiculous. The 49ers fans on this board are fairly objective when it comes the Seahawks. We know you are great team. We know RW is your franchise QB and he could be a top5 QB in the near future. We know your secondary is absurd and Bobby Wagner is a football player. Us 49ers fans rarely hate or question the talent of the Seahawks. We don't spread misinformation about your team or point out ever tiny flaw or mistake in the Seahawks organization. Seeing the trend here? Yes I'm accusing Seahawks fans of doing this things. Conversely, the 49ers fans are objective enough to know this upcoming game is 90% likely a loss, which leads me to my next point..

(2) a lot of posters on this board do not respect the 49ers. I know that statement makes me sound like a Whiner. I know I shouldn't expect respect on a rival board. I know respect on the Internet is truly pointless and obsolete when it comes to the real world. But the 49ers have proven over the years that they are the class of the NFL. I realize that the Seahawks might assume that role after this season plays out, but for a lot of posters on this board to downplay and even ignore the 49ers impressive success and talented roster (in every unit. yes, even our secondary is good) is just lame. The 49ers are good. Kap is just as good as RW. Jim Harbaugh is arguably the best football mind in the world. I get it, you don't like their personas. You don't want them to be winners because they are the biggest roadblock to your SB dreams, but you just have to accept it. It's a fact. Not an opinion (But Kap is only a one-read QB!!!1!1!!!1!one!!!--- sorry, get over it) Nonetheless, this bring me to my third point.

(3) The Hawks match up well with the 49ers. Your team is designed to beat the 49ers. Your toughness and intensity matches the 49ers. You guys not only will win this game but you will probably win in Candlestick. The Seahawks advantages over the 49ers is not solely attributed to the venue of the game. So, yeah, congrats. When the 49ers and Seahawks are on a neutral field you guys will win. Does that mean you're the better team? I guess so. But, and this is what is unfortunate for the Hawks, it's a 17 week season and to assure a SB birth the Hawks will probably have to secure home field throughout in order to make it. There's to big of a risk for the Hawks if they have to go to say Green Bay or to Atlanta/New Orleans. And, again unfortunately for the Hawks, I'm not convinced you guys will win this division. Even if (more like when) you win this weekend. The Hawks got screwed by the schedule.

So, when Marvin49er says this game isn't as important for the49ers as it is for the Seahawks, he's absolutely right.

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Marvin49 wrote:Actually I'm pretty damn sure there will be a surprise. Roman does it almost EVERY week.

From rolling our the Pistol in the playoffs (ran it earlier as well but nowhere near as often as in the playoffs), throwing passes to Isaac Sopoaga or Joe Staley, running a bootleg with Alex Smith...something. They always have something different planned every week.

Yes, to the frequent consternation of 9ers fans.

I was objecting to the implication that Roman designed something in the off-season and held it back just for this super special Seahawks game, which I totally don't buy for a second.

Truth be told, while I think this is obviously a very big and exciting game, I think it's also quite clearly much more special for Hawks fans than for 9ers fans, and takes on an outsized degree of importance for them that it doesn't for us. We see that in a myriad of ways, even in this thread (the suspicion that 9ers fans thinking the Hawks and 9ers will split games this year is a "trap" (LOL) or that the 9ers were holding things back against an 11-5 divisional round team in order to have a better chance at later playing another 11-5 divisional round team).

SoHo9erFan wrote: Us 49ers fans rarely hate or question the talent of the Seahawks. We don't spread misinformation about your team or point out ever tiny flaw or mistake in the Seahawks organization. Seeing the trend here? Yes I'm accusing Seahawks fans of doing this things.

Not really a fare comparison, IMO, because this is ultimately a Hawks board, and the 9ers fans that come here are very different from the bulk of the 9ers fans on the Webzone.

Go to the Webzone and you'll see 9ers fans doing all the exact same crud on their own forum that you're accusing Hawks fans of doing more frequently.

And really, that type of low hanging fruit exists for every team. I also think it dominates the Webzone in a way it doesn't dominate hawks.net.

Heck, I started posting here not only because I love the rivalry, but also because the Webzone (obviously not everyone) is spammed so heavily with idiocy that it makes it hard to wade through, even for a 9ers fan.

SoHo9erFan wrote:This is my 1st post since the OP.. My belief that the Hawks are going to win and the expression of that belief isn't a "trap." It's just the truth. Sure, if the 49ers win I am going to come on this board and claim that the 49ers are better than I and the rest of the Hawks fans thought. This is by far the 49ers hardest game on the schedule. It's only reasonable to expect a loss. If the 49ers miraculously pull off a victory, I think you are looking at a 13-3 finish for the 49ers. Maybe even better.

It's not a trap, per se. And one can do so while still honestly talking about the game. But it is a nice convenient stance to take. Nothing better than creating win-win scenarios for yourself on a rival's board.

SoHo9erFan wrote:49ers fans on this board get a ton of hate. Some of it is justified: like when we derail threads. Nevertheless, we also get accused of not knowing anything about football and being blind homers. Which is pretty ridiculous. The 49ers fans on this board are fairly objective when it comes the Seahawks. We know you are great team. We know RW is your franchise QB and he could be a top5 QB in the near future. We know your secondary is absurd and Bobby Wagner is a football player. Us 49ers fans rarely hate or question the talent of the Seahawks. We don't spread misinformation about your team or point out ever tiny flaw or mistake in the Seahawks organization. Seeing the trend here? Yes I'm accusing Seahawks fans of doing this things. Conversely, the 49ers fans are objective enough to know this upcoming game is 90% likely a loss

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold the phone here for a second. Stop talking about 49ers fans as if you yourself and Marvin are indicative of the fan base in any way whatsoever. You do realize that the reason there are a couple respectful, knowledgeable Niner fans on this site is because you guys are the only ones who haven't been banned, correct? So before you get all sanctimonious on us, keep in mind that there have been MANY to come before you, and many who you never notice as they're immediately banned.

And you are not in any way allowed to go off about Seattle fans disrespecting your team or not taking them serious when your fans do the exact same thing, if not much worse.

And before you say that site isn't good or full of idiots, I don't care what you think of it. That is your most popular site on the internet. It is the equivalent of Seahawks.Net. The fact that smart Niners fans know better than to go there doesn't mean those aren't your fans. They represent your fan base 1,000 times more than a couple smart, rational dudes on our site.

I highly doubt you want us Seattle fans on this site holding all of the dumb things said on webzone held against you. So do us a favor and quit with the hypocritical sanctimony. Most on this site respect the few decent Niners posters we have, as evidenced by the fact that you're still allowed to post. That should be all the respect you need. And you'd be well off not lumping all Seattle fans in as one when on their site. There are plenty of Hawks fans on here who think your team is quite good, and who throw a lot of praise their way. Not all, but more than enough. We just don't like them. You're gonna have to learn to deal with it.

SoHo9erFan wrote:a lot of posters on this board do not respect the 49ers. I know that statement makes me sound like a Whiner. I know I shouldn't expect respect on a rival board.

Yes. Yes, you should.

SoHo9erFan wrote:The Hawks match up well with the 49ers. Your team is designed to beat the 49ers. Your toughness and intensity matches the 49ers. You guys not only will win this game but you will probably win in Candlestick. The Seahawks advantages over the 49ers is not solely attributed to the venue of the game. So, yeah, congrats. When the 49ers and Seahawks are on a neutral field you guys will win. Does that mean you're the better team? I guess so. But, and this is what is unfortunate for the Hawks, it's a 17 week season and to assure a SB birth the Hawks will probably have to secure home field throughout in order to make it. There's to big of a risk for the Hawks if they have to go to say Green Bay or to Atlanta/New Orleans. And, again unfortunately for the Hawks, I'm not convinced you guys will win this division. Even if (more like when) you win this weekend. The Hawks got screwed by the schedule.

Agree just about 100%. And if I was to be entirely honest, going into the season and before we see how the teams look after more than one game, I agree that the Niners should actually be the favorites. I think both teams are VERY evenly matched in terms of talent and coaching. If they play 10 games, I'm almost certain it ends up 5-5, 6-4 at the very most. So when trying to break down the season before we see much more, one of the only things you can look at is the schedule. And SF got a huge break in that regard. They get the good teams at home, we get them on the road. Hawks have to travel back East more. And the Niners get the home game against us late in the season when it will most certainly count a lot more than this week's game. The schedule is most definitely something that falls in SF's favor.

Still though, doesn't change much in terms of how each respective fan base feels about their team. Niners fans like their chances. Hawks fans like ours. We both got two great teams. It's going to be a great fight all season long. Can't wait for Sunday.

kearly wrote:I think Kaepernick handled last year's game about as poorly as he could. He's come a long way since then, so my gut feeling is that SF is good for 2, maybe 3 TDs. I also think Harbaugh has a secret weapon waiting for us. Some new wrinkle that he planned this offseason for just this game.

Agree with this. Like him or not, Kaepernick improved a lot this offseason. He won't be as rattled this time, and has a better rapport with Davis.

And yes Douchebaugh is going to try to run a trick play or fake punt to take the crowd out of the game early. Too bad it won't work.

Regarding Harbaugh and his personality, I agree he will rub opposing fans the wrong way - he's brash and confident in himself and his players. He'll defend them, as he should, as any coach would, and I totally understand the hateraid sent his way from this fan base - and it's totally understandable here. Not a biggie for me.

What I think is a more interesting discussion point is how Dan Quinn, Travis Jones, and Tom Cable do against the 49er coaching staff. I have doubts about Dan, Travis and Cable. I really do. Dan wasn't the best D-line coach we've had, and Travis comes from the Saints bounty gate situation, and Cable wasn't that great a head coach with the Raiders. Pete is a good DC, but 4 games over .500 doesn't point to beiing an eilte coach - this late in his career.

I think Bevell is an outstanding offensive coach, and I think Schnider and McCloughan are outstanding front office guys. McCloughan had a hand in building much of the 49ers that will be currently playing against you on sunday. Anyway, I will be watching - like a Hawk - your D line and defensive adjustments to see how your coaches are coping with the problem sets the Roman offense gives them. Man it's going to be a good game - win or lose.

SoHo9erFan wrote:Yup. You heard it here first (from a 49er fan anyways (actually, plently 49ers fans on this board have revealed their doubts regarding a 49ers win)).

Wilson is legit. Our Defense has trouble stopping competent QBs. Especially when the QB has time to scan the field. Sure, I expect the 49ers to routinely collapse the pocket on Wilson. But Wilson knows how to escape, and he is the best in the league when throwing on the run. Doesn't bode well for our D.

In terms of offense, you guys are too good at the CLINK. Kap will struggle to get the play in and, most importantly, he will struggle to orchestrate the complex motions our offense runs. Our WRs will be buried by your secondary. I can't see Boldin doing well against Sherman. And Kyle Williams' only threat is downfield, but ET is more than capable of breaking up the big pass play. You guys will double and even triple team Davis.

I think the only way the 49ers have a chance is if Kap targets players like TE Vance McDonald, FB Bruce Miller, or 3rd WR Patton (he only had a handful of snaps against GB).

Honestly, I don't see a victory here. Probably something like 31-17 Seattle. Hopefully it will be a clean, injure free game though

Much respect. I think it will be closer than that though. What baffles me is the way everyone today portrays a win or a loss as some kind of uber statement to a teams ability to win next week. The SF-GB game score was only 6 point difference, and while I didn't see the game, that isn't a whole lot there.

The highlights I have seen it looks like Kape has progressed in his throwing but like someone said, they are still darts, no arc to them which might be problematic.

I just think this is a bad matchup for the 49ers. I also have full confidence in our coaches. Dan Quinn's defense just gave up seven points on the road. That's it.

I don't even know if the Niners are good for two or three touchdowns this week. If they can get the run game going, maybe they can get to 21, but their WRs against our secondary is a bad, bad mismatch for them. If Kam has even a decent day keeping Vernon Davis from running wild, they might have a hard enough time getting to 14.

I'm not necessarily super-confident in this game because I am really unsure about our offense, but we seemed pretty vanilla. We didn't run any read-option or anything that looked really different last weekend. I'm assuming we have something ready to unleash on the 49ers at home this week.

One thing I liked is that Gore looked old. Sure, the Pack was also selling out a bit to stop the run, but the Niners averaged less than three YPC last weekend. If Seattle just stops the run, I like our corners to shut down their passing game.

Can we get the webzone stricken from any further references? It is so blatantly, and obviously full of immature posters. It's akin to using youtube comments to sum up a group of people... Total bad representation.

Im not buying this as a fair rivalry if the fans are acting like this. Its like chemical warfare.

lol.

It's being realistic. That home field advantage is good for at least one touchdown in point differential every game. The NFL has never seen anything like it, except maybe Lambeau Field in winter during the late 90s. The fans are a huge part of it, but the stadium itself is so perfect for acoustics, and now there is such a specter about it that it even has an additional mental effect that only compounds things more.

SoHo9erFan wrote:I think the only way the 49ers have a chance is if Kap targets players like TE Vance McDonald, FB Bruce Miller, or 3rd WR Patton (he only had a handful of snaps against GB).

This is how the 49ers will be relevant in this game... 49er fans missing anyone in particular this year? Who has been a Seahawk succubus in years past?? You got it, DELANIE WALKER.... he was an unsung hero in many games against us. He would have big plays that force us to respect his ability which opened opportunities for other players. I think he is the key to the game - and finding this year's Delanie Walker will be the key to victory for the 49ers.

60niners wrote:Can we get the webzone stricken from any further references? It is so blatantly, and obviously full of immature posters. It's akin to using youtube comments to sum up a group of people... Total bad representation.

I resemble that remark.

Come on now...lets lighten up on the 'zone. There are loons on every forum.

60niners wrote:Can we get the webzone stricken from any further references? It is so blatantly, and obviously full of immature posters. It's akin to using youtube comments to sum up a group of people... Total bad representation.

I resemble that remark.

Come on now...lets lighten up on the 'zone. There are loons on every forum.

You look like that remark? Ugly...

hawksincebirth wrote:So Russell has leverage but marshawn doesn't ? I thought its next man up. Hey we got t jack and bj Daniels right ??

60niners wrote:I won't be all broken up if the Niners don't come away with a win. These teams are fairly even and the home team should win 9/10 times.

This is how I feel about the game later in the year at SF. I will gladly take 1-1 against Frisco and focus on maybe sweeping the rest of the NFCW

Same here

Do I expect the Niners to win on SNF this week? Nope!

Do I think that the Niners have a chance to win this week? Yep!

I respect your 12th man advantage way too much to allow myself to get mad about a 1-1 start to the season after what I believe to be the toughest part of our schedule, knowing that we won't have to play in C-link this season again thanks to our easier schedule compared to yours.

However if we do win this Sunday night, I think there will be little doubt across the league, and even amongst those on here, that the NFCW and home filed advantage is ours for the taking.

You think you will only play in CLink once this season? You dare to declare this openly? You have just put the hex on yourself.