Comments on: Report: Players don’t want major realignmenthttp://nhl.nbcsports.com/2011/12/04/report-players-dont-want-major-realignment/
ProHockeyTalk on NBCSports.comMon, 19 Mar 2018 12:30:54 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.com/By: kibbee2545http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2011/12/04/report-players-dont-want-major-realignment/comment-page-1/#comment-22942
Tue, 06 Dec 2011 03:06:40 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22942No matters what happen in re alignment Detroit will be playing in the play offs and fighting for the cup as they have done for years
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Mon, 05 Dec 2011 19:40:06 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22824I think Florida and Tampa Bay vote for it because they get teams that appeal to snowbirds in their buildings. Having Toronto, Montreal, and Boston visit has to more valuable to them then having Carolina or Washington come to town
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Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:25:01 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22792I’d thumb this up twice if I could.
]]>By: comeonnowguyshttp://nhl.nbcsports.com/2011/12/04/report-players-dont-want-major-realignment/comment-page-1/#comment-22790
Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:22:34 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22790Colorado may have something to say about this.
]]>By: thomaspratthttp://nhl.nbcsports.com/2011/12/04/report-players-dont-want-major-realignment/comment-page-1/#comment-22765
Mon, 05 Dec 2011 17:28:36 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22765I suppose if you’re not a regular reader of Brooks’ Sunday column you might not have noticed that this is part of a persistent bias against radical realignment. I would take anything Brooks says on this topic would a grain of salt.
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Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:19:46 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22722Looks good to me. It’ll all have to be changed again once Phoenix and another team or two more move within the next few years anyhow.
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Mon, 05 Dec 2011 14:14:16 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22720You know it’s been a long decade as a hockey fan when 1 fan says “you’re right on schedule to repeat” (collapse), and the retort is “no, we should of collapsed last month”
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Mon, 05 Dec 2011 06:16:49 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22706What everybody is forgetting is how much better this makes the NHL as a whole.

1. Just about all conferences in this proposal are localized for the most part. No more Minnesota division games in Vancouver, Calgary, and Edmonton. Dallas doesn’t have division games in San Jose, Anaheim, LA, or Phoenix.

2. What makes a rival? A playoff series. With this proposal your guaranteed 3 series of strictly divisional series. We have seen what Chicago/Detroit has been. Old schoolers remember the Chicago/St. Louis series where the penalty boxes were over crowded 4-6 deep at times. Having Minnesota and Dallas (former Minnesota team) meet could be intriguing.

3. How can Detroit not love this? Keeps same rivalries as now but adds Minnesota, Winnipeg, and Dallas. Not nearly as many late starts. 8:00 for them is better than 10:00. Same with Dallas and Minnesota.

Your logic in the realignment is so flawed I don’t know where to begin. You argue that Dallas should be in the central, but you don’t mention the team that is almost directly north of them….Minnesota. How insane is it that Winnipeg, Chicago, St. Louis and Detroit are all with around 10 hours drive time and not one of them are in our division?? Dallas is in the same time zone as Minnesota as well and the Wild have division games in Vancouver for God’s sake. The proposed alignment is perfect. All of the division rivals are no more than one time zone away and people in the midwest can watch their teams play before the worthless 9:30pm central start time. The old Norris division was classic, this gives us a taste of those timeless rivalries.

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Mon, 05 Dec 2011 05:30:11 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22701The teams that need realignment the most are Detroit, Winnipeg, Columbus and Nashville. This four conference plan looks good to me.
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Mon, 05 Dec 2011 04:05:15 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22695I understand the problem with the time zones which is why i have dallas moving to the central and columbus moving to the southeast. Detroit doesn’t need to move. They have a fan base that spreads a lot farther than the city of detroit and they are consistently one of the top franchises in the league revenue wise. we don’t need a major shake up where we are creating 4 conferences and teams primarily play the teams in their conference.

If you look at baseball, not only do you have a team like the Texas Rangers in the central time zone playing teams from Anaheim, oakland, and Seattle, but they are also planning on MOVING the houston astros from their central time zone to a division where most of the teams play 2 time zones away. Also each league in baseball has an eastern division and a western division and those teams play each other regularly throughout the season. If it isn’t a problem for a product like baseball where they have to do it for twice as many games, why is it a problem in the NHL?

Then you have the NBA (the closest schedule to the NHL). When the Sonics moved from Seattle to Oklahoma City, was there this much of an out cry for realignment? no. in fact most people don’t even realize that Oklahoma City plays in the Northwest division against teams like Portland and Utah. You also have teams like Memphis and New Orleans who play in the Western Conference where they have to travel and play on the West Coast a lot and yet you don’t have New Orleans lobbying to get into the South Eastern division.

It sucks for Detroit to have to play teams from the West Coast so much, but they can afford to do it. You don’t change the whole structure of a league that is just now getting back to where it wants to be post-lockout so that one team can have a better tv schedule. It works for other leagues and it works for the NHL. Just move Winnipeg, Dallas, and Columbus(they can’t afford it like Detroit can) and get over it.

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Mon, 05 Dec 2011 03:53:43 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22694It seems like the Western Conference is done perfect. That is 15 votes of the 20 needed.

Winnipeg is a vote from the Eastern Conference that is 16 votes.

New Jersey doesn’t really get effected according to Lou. 17 votes.

With only 3 votes needed, I can’t see how this doesn’t get passed, however I see the 2 Florida teams complaining about their travel schedule since Washington and Carolina could be in their divison, If they get Buffalo and 3 canadian teams to go to their side, the realignement would hinge on the Pennsylvania and New York teams (and Boston). I think both Pittsburgh and Philadelphia might like this because they keep each other in the same divison. New York teams don’t have to travel far, so please don’t derail this

West Coast games that start at 7pm Pacific time start at 10pm Eastern time, not exactly conducive to great TV ratings for West Coast road games in Eastern Time Zone TV markets – which account for over half the teams in the league (including, I need not remind anyone, most of the largest TV markets), unlike “pretty much every other sports league,” whose teams are distributed much more evenly across the time zones. So the time zone issue is a much bigger deal in the NHL than it is in other leagues.

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Mon, 05 Dec 2011 03:29:28 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22690Having the Florida teams in the NE grouping seems odd. On the other hand, the FLA teams seems to have more than a few Canadian fans … snowbirds and such. I can’t believe the NE players would mind traveling to FLA more often in the winter. Maybe squeeze in a few rounds of golf during the ‘difficult’ road trip south. Poor things.
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Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:53:07 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22685Can we just move Winnipeg to the pacific, dallas to the central, and Columbus/Nashville to the southeast (I really want to say Nashville, but i feel like people will 8itch at me about the time zones) and be done with this? I don’t understand how moving more teams into divisions with multiple time zones solves the travel and tv issues in the NHL. Doesn’t it cause more travel issues when a team in Miami has to play teams in Toronto, Buffalo and Montreal every other day? All of this crap is for a Detroit team that does better than most (financially and in number of fans) despite the fact that they play west coast teams.

Can we just stop complaining about a system that works for pretty much every other sports league?

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Mon, 05 Dec 2011 02:28:45 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22682There are 4 teams that need realignment the most. The most obvious is Winnipeg. The other 3 are Dallas, Minnesota and to a degree Detroit.

Dallas and Minnesota play for more late games than Detroit does. It is crap that Minnesota and Dallas have to travel 2 time zones to play division games. Detroit only has to travel a short distance to another time zone to play St. Louis and Chicago. Nothing like Minnesota playing divison games in Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton.

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Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:50:26 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22669far from solved… weather you notice them or not but Minnesota has a hard road schedule too.
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Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:47:23 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22667Right on schedule? Usually our hot start fizzles by mid-October and we’re in the bottom third of the conference by now. We held things together for a month running AHL-quality goalies out there every game. Now we’ve got our #1 guy back completely healthy and we’re just 3 points out of the division lead. Like it or not this year’s Leafs are a a different, much improved, playoff-calibre bunch
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Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:41:56 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22666Leafs start hot every year, start to fizzle by the holidays, are lucky to be on the bubble by Spring, and our out of it by the final week. You’re right on schedule for a repeat. Even if you manage to squeak in you’ll get smoked by one of the teams in the conference that are head and shoulders better (like the Bruins). I’d actually love to see Toronto be a contender, but realignment isn’t the problem.
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Sun, 04 Dec 2011 23:28:45 +0000http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/?p=58156#comment-22665There is no need for this radical four conference plan. Just swap the Jets for the Wings…. problem solved.
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