Bunny Yes of course it's still worth bothering. I got the smiley on the OV kit and my temperature didn't go up until 3 days later indicating that I OV'd 2 days after the smiley. But are you really out for tonight? Won't he allow you to assist him in stress relief

Hazle the puppy is absolutely great - he naturally likes a bit of mischief but he also likes strangers, kids, other dogs and he's learning obedience well. The only problem is still that his doggy smell makes me feel really sick so I am having to give him a wide berth at certain times of the day. Poor doggy

Bunny don't give up - firstly there could well be spermies still lurking round in there and secondly you could well not OV til tomorrow. It only takes one remember. You have my sympathies - I remember the 'pressured sex' arguments/stress all too well.

Well I have told my folks which was fun, less fun has been spending half an hour on the phone to nhs direct checking up that the pain I have developed in one shoulder isn't a symptom of ectopic pregnancy. I think I just managed to freak myself out and wind myself up - sensible advise was take paracetamol, if no change fine, if any further symptoms (abdo pain, bleeding etc) ring back as urgent. I feel fine again now but had my poor mum worried

Oh quod that sucks. We do worry ourselves silly I think!Sorry bunny I misread your post and thought you had done it two previous days. Yeah I'll say def go for it today. Ov can be late after smiley. I'm off to Iceland today for a few days. Great to take my mind off things. I'm not hopeful as the last time we DTD was day of smiley so who knows!!!

Morning ladies, well last night was a no go but we just about managed it this morning! Yay! Hubby prefers mornings anyway, I'm not so keen as don't like being, well, sticky all day if you know what I mean! Hopefully the strong swimmers had done the the job by the time I got up for a shower (after 20 mins with a pillow under my ass). Hopefully we'll manage DTD sat and Sunday and then it's keep those fingers crossed! Thank you so much for all the words of support, because I haven't told anyone this thread is my lifeline, not sure what I'd do without it

After some advice from you ladies.... Off to Thailand in December (sorry, know I keep banging on about it) and didn't mention it to my doctor when I went in to say I was pregnant, because a) I forgot and b) all my jabs are up to date and c) he rushed me out so quickly I didn't have chance. Anyway, we're going to low to no risk areas (Bangkok, Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Krabi) so anti malarials aren't required. I always get bitten loads though, and know that pregnant women are at a higher risk of malaria. I know I'm being paranoid, but as well as staying indoors and covered etc, do any of you know if you can use insect repellents when pregnant?

Dreamt I had a miscarriage last night and the boob soreness has completely gone this morning, know I will now spend the entire day being paranoid!

lol - have an amazing time, have always wanted to go but never quite got round to it, so am very jealous....

Janey I am the equivalent of a Krispy Kreme to a mosquito so I have to use loads of repellent wherever I go. I'm not keen on the oily texture of DEET repellents so I use Incognito, which works really well. I have been to Thailand twice and used this both times without a single bite.

Oh, all the advice online contradicts itself. NHS say to use one specifically given the OK for pregnancy, but looking in boots yesterday all the 'natural' ones said they were fine for the last six months of pregnancy. Grrr.

Also got my booking in appointment for 18th December - I shall be in Thailand. So I just called and they can't fit me in sooner, so it won't be until 28th December. So long to wait! Will have had my private scan by then, all things being well. It all seems so long away!

Really fancy some more ttcers joining us pg ladies - how many BFP's do you think we can get by Christmas?

Hoping they work for you badleg - could be coincidence but they worked for me. It just feels good to be trying all you can, doesn't it?Try drinking full fat milk too in the run up to ov, is supposed to help with EWCM and the month I conceived I noticed a marked increase. Again, could be coincidence, but worth a try! Having a milky hot choc before bed is hardly a chore at this time of year!

hazle - I've told the friends I told when I was admitted to hospital with my mc last year - if it goes wrong I know I'll need their support again so figured I may as well. Plus I'm going to Dubai with three of them, so there's no way I could hide the not drinking there. So my five closest girlfriends, and have also had to tell one colleague. I work in media and it's pretty boozy, and due to my birthday could NOT get out of lunchtime drinks, so told a colleague who kindly got the rounds in and delivered me G&T (without the G). Not telling any family until after the nuchal tests - don't want to get any hopes up! You?

Oooo Badleg it's exciting when some new toys turn up I personally felt like I was more in control of what was happening when I used the OV kit and BBT charting, even though I probably wasn't as we all know TTC is a bit of a lottery. It's good to know you're DTD at the right time though. FX for your BFP off Santa

Hazle We told our close friends and family almost immediately. I told a few good friends at work and asked them to keep it under their hat, but I have been so sick in the mornings for the last couple of weeks that i'm sure most people have probably worked it out by now. So, short of putting it on Facebook I think most people know about mine.

Just been told by the colleague that knows that everyone is talking about me and suspects (I'm only 6 weeks for god's sake) because my boobs are bigger and I've put on weight Ridiculously teary about it - I don't want them to know yet and also I haven't put on that much?!

Ah so quite many people know already. We have told some random people - I told my gym manager, as I needed to explain why I don't want to participate in a new really hardcore training. DH told a friend of his who just had a baby. I'll tell my best friend when I see her this weekend, as otherwise I'd also have to explain the not drinking and she knows me too well to believe any fibs about cutting down alcohol.

But otherwise we have not even told parents yet - MIL is a terrible gossip and the whole country would know in 5 minutes. I'm not kidding. And if it doesn't work out, the whole country would know about that.

If everything is ok at 12 week scan, we'll tell them at Christmas dinner, will be quite a surprise.

janey that's mean of them. Why would they assume you're pregnant - the winter is coming, gathering a natural insulation layer is only reasonable

Oh Janey that's really mean! Even if they are talking, was it really necessary to tell you that? Sending sympathetic hugs. Re the weight thing, could be bloating rather than weight - most people can't tell the difference. You could make out you've had a sneaky boob-job

I used to work in the media (and kind of still do, but more fringey now) and I used to hate how image conscious it is. Ignore them, and their talk. I think pregnancy is a time when you realise who your real friends are.

Pretty sure I'm with you BadLeg in the AF visitees portion of the crowd. Not exactly shown face yet but it's imminent. Zero chance I could stilll be pregnant. Drat it. I'll be with you in the pre-Christmas present hunting stakes!

If all is well I shall be telling the folks at Christmas too. I'm conscious of how my Mum felt when my bro & SIL had kids, and am super aware of leaving DP's Mum out or her feeling left out, so think the plan is for us to spend Christmas with our respective families and facetime to tell them (not at the same time!) <cringe> Know it's awful to have to resort to that, but would hate her to find out too long after my folks and feel left out before it's even started....

The main instigator of the rumour has just been over to clarify that he doesn't want me thinking he's saying I'm fat, but that he does think my boobs are MUCH bigger. Erm, thanks.

Janey I have found myself being fodder for the office gossips on many occasions. I think at one point there were rumours that I was having affairs with two Directors at the same time and had shagged the Marketing Manager, none of which had any substance whatsoever. The whole extent of my workplace relations in a whole 11 years of working there is one drunken snog with a colleague! People just love to gossip, period, and they will be on to someone else by tomorrow, probably bitching about the size of the new PA's arse or similar

Those of you who have used ov sticks/kits, do you find you only get a positive for one day? Mine negative today so guessing we may have missed it but will try again tomorrow just in case ov sticks aren't spot on ;-p