Bosox writes:

Evidently, you do not understand what has transpired. If you are making the proper bets at the right time but are taking it on the chin that day do you think it makes a difference to the casino that you lost $ 6K? Do you think that the session result buys you some added time to fire away? If you do you have this all wrong. First, the money you lost is the casinos' money, not yours and the last thing they want to do is lose it back and possibly more to a naive card counter who already overexposed his game. All of this should be common sense.

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Bosox writes:
It all boils down to this, Rob has either just put the last nail in his own coffin sealing his fate. He will either be forever remembered as a lying scumball or a legacy of his time. I lean heavily to the former choice.

Rob must have you on ignore. He responded to many, including KJ, but not you. You do realize you just called a grown man a lying scumball who has not said anything derogatory to you. Quite frankly, I doubt he knows you even exist. But say that to a man like 82 year old Lou or 77 year old Tom to their face? I'd bet money you'd be the one "lying" out with tweetie birds circling your head. Slingshot responded, to your attempted put downs to him, and put you in your place. Do you know anything about machine play?

Based on the comments that followed, even by Rob's adversaries, you really owe him an apology which you are good at because you constantly overstep your boundaries.

Rob Singer wrties to FuDD

I was leaning towards ignoring you again because you're just an inexperienced hater with a bias who throws things out hoping something will stick, but you did ask a question which when answered might help others understand as well.

Most ignore because they can't understand his posts in the first place. So they skip over and move on. In a nutshell, it's clear Bosox nose is so far up KJ's ass, they calm him Sniffy. So, whatever side of the ledger KJ takes Bosox will follow. Evidently old guys have a thing for young guys like KJ who was in junior high in 2000 and has been a PRO for 15 years making a mil. Riddle me that math FUDD.

It's all about a person's discipline and intelligence level Bosox. And it's all about being able to put the right plan together that works for YOU. I've always been a very structured and disciplined person, which really made this opportunity a match for me.

Man...You said a mouthful there Singer. You'd mentioned keeping things bottled up in one of your posts. THAT is a must. I'm surprised you let this out. But look at the commotion it's caused from losers and wannabee's. Something as simple as showing Tater my bet tickets to examine in case I missed their small print goes to complete strangers coming out of nowhere to tell me their picks, wins, and losses. I would think "why tell me"? Until I followed the trail.

I don't believe very many people could do this.

One in a Million.

I believe axel could--thats why I wanted to talk to him first. And now I believe mickey could, although I'd expect he'd find a way to go about it that nobody's talked about yet. And of course there are others. But all I know is my approach served me well, and there was never a hint of heat. The "heat" was all in my mind.

Heat can be a constant battle of discernment vs paranoia. But staying within casino tolerance is key. IF they boot me for what I do? I didn't want to play in the first place. Most fail to comprehend the concept of "take what they give you and don't be greedy." Consistent and greedy are NOT one in the same.

So, whatever side of the ledger KJ takes Bosox will follow. Evidently old guys have a thing for young guys like KJ who was in junior high in 2000 and has been a PRO for 15 years making a mil. Riddle me that math FUDD.

So let's see: Junior High school is what.....7th or 8thgrade? Maybe 6th? So a person in 7th grade is 13? So someone in Jr High school and 13 in 2000 would be 32 years old in 2019 is that correct? I need help because I am bad with math.

So lets see someone who is 32 years old today and claims to be in their 16th year of professional blackjack play.....hold on I need paper and pencil.

Ok, give me a sec now. carry the 1, and..... So KJ started his professional card counting career at age 16. What is the problem? Oh hold on.....I think I see it now. Yikes. Great work detective Moses. Or was this a joint effort with the other figments of your imagination that you talk with. Tator? The Cxf broad? who ever else is in there?

So let's see: Junior High school is what.....7th or 8thgrade? Maybe 6th? So a person in 7th grade is 13? So someone in Jr High school and 13 in 2000 would be 32 years old in 2019 is that correct? I need help because I am bad with math.

So lets see someone who is 32 years old today and claims to be in their 16th year of professional blackjack play.....hold on I need paper and pencil.

Ok, give me a sec now. carry the 1, and..... So KJ started his professional card counting career at age 16. What is the problem? Oh hold on.....I think I see it now. Yikes. Great work detective Moses. Or was this a joint effort with the other figments of your imagination that you talk with. Tator? The Cxf broad? who ever else is in there?

You were the one who said you were in junior high in 2000. In a thread where you were preaching about your honesty and integrity no less while questioning others. If you are 32 and have 15 years playing experience, that would mean you began making all this money when you were 17. What's wrong with this picture? Hell, my lady friends granddaughter could figure that one out and she's only in the 4th grade.

As many of your AP constituents put it. KJ is a "monstrous liar." BTW, there are many of us in Reno following you. Even a couple in Vegas.

You were the one who said you were in junior high in 2000. In a thread where you were preaching about your honesty and integrity no less while questioning others. If you are 32 and have 15 years playing experience, that would mean you began making all this money when you were 17. What's wrong with this picture? Hell, my lady friends granddaughter could figure that one out and she's only in the 4th grade.

As many of your AP constituents put it. KJ is a "monstrous liar." BTW, there are many of us in Reno following you. Even a couple in Vegas.

So were you in junior high in 2000 surfing at Daytona Beach?

So you, your lady freind and her granddaughter in the 4th grade all figured this out. Are you all the same person BTW?

But hold on....let me continue to work the numbers and see if I can find a solution. How about if I was held back 4-5 years. Does that work? Hum...Maybe it does. But that might not be my final answer. I am going to keep working the problem.

So you, your lady freind and her granddaughter in the 4th grade all figured this out.

It was the equivalent of a 4th grade math problem.

Originally Posted by KewlJ

But hold on....let me continue to work the numbers and see if I can find a solution. How about if I was held back 4-5 years. Does that work? Hum...Maybe it does. But that might not be my final answer. I am going to keep working the problem.

You are boxing me in here. Wash Tater in on figuring this out as well? How about the old guy....what's his name "old Bob" or somthing that lives in your mind? was everyone in on this?

Now let's see? Hey what about leap Year? Could that be the answer? Could that have effected this equation in any way. Leap years in 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016. That would be 4 total. Does that make the math work.

You are boxing me in here. Wash Tater in on figuring this out as well?

Naw. Tater is a walking google. Ask him just about anything about sports and he will rattle the correct answer off the top of his head.

Originally Posted by KewlJ

How about the old guy....what's his name "old Bob" or somthing that lives in your mind?

Lou is 82. He has more piss and vinegar than most 50 year olds.

Originally Posted by KewlJ

was everyone in on this?

Most laughed their asses off, as they usually do at you. Except for Steve. HE can't even read your gay rants and he is the senior cocks man. Hell, I don't even have time to read your lengthy diatribes during the days when I'm competing. And yet you find time to write...into a cell phone no less.

Naw. Tater is a walking google. Ask him just about anything about sports and he will rattle the correct answer off the top of his head.

Lou is 82. He has more piss and vinegar than most 50 year olds.
Most laughed their asses off, as they usually do at you. Except for Steve. HE can't even read your gay rants and he is the senior cocks man. Hell, I don't even have time to read your lengthy diatribes during the days when I'm competing. And yet you find time to write...into a cell phone no less.

Well this is becomeing extremely embarrassing. The whole Moses gang was able to figure this out.

Makes me look pretty bad. The numbers just aren't adding up.

Good thing no one reads this site but you, all your alternative personalities and a bot designed to make it look like you have a lot of views. Otherwise I would be in real trouble wouldn't I?

This is all ready exciting stuff. Homeless-Moses has discovered proof that KJ's story doesn't add up. And he is screaming it to the world. The problem is Homeless-Moses, banned from every legitimate platform, is stuck here at the funny farm, locked away in a padded roon, where no one can hear him. So KJ is free to continue his decades long sharade, of luring young inexperienced card counters to Vegas, where they will lose all their money and keep Las Vegas 'afloat'.

Will Homeless-Moses (Homoses for short) find away to get his message to the people before KJ finds a way to make the numbers work?

You sound more like Bob 21 than KJ the queertard. Homeless Moses will be sitting at your table one play hitting 12s and standing on 16s looking like an angry ploppy selling you out. I must admit KJ is harder to find than most. Either Kew is the worst blackjack player on earth and a complete idiot or he has one helluva act and is casino personnel who is wise beyond his years. Stay tuned queertard. Right now, I'm off to watch the prickness.

Ok, I have been playing around with the slide rule and abacus all day and I think I have solved this problem. Moses, lets say I was in the 11th grade in 2000 rather than Jr High. That seems to work. The math works perfectly as far as my 16 year career. And it so happens that is exactly what I said all along. Here is the quote.

Originally Posted by kewlJ

In the year 2000 I was a junior in high school spending most of my free time surfing the waves (not internet) at Daytona Beach. So for those of us...

You will notice the part I highlighted, Junior in High school.....that is the 11th grade.

Now this is a relatively minor error, reading junior in high school and thinking it says junior high school. Simple mistake, anyone could make, I could see myself making a mistake like that. So why have I come to Zenzone and made such a big deal about it?

I am tired of Moses lies and twisting everything to suit himself. Moses doesn't like me and wants my story to be untrue. That's all fine. He doesn't get to make up alternative facts and lies in his attempt to discredit me, which he repeatedly does. He constantly posts that I live with my mom and she pays the bills. Neither is true. He posts that my late partner bankrolled me when I got to Vegas. Untrue, He had no money. When he played blackjack or any kind of AP, I bankrolled him. At one point Moses said I was a 58 year old man. The very next day he posted I was a teenager living with my mom. The guy is crazy as freaking Shit! Seriously he is looney-toons. The guys total existence now is posting quotes, word for word from several forums that he is not welcome at and injecting his thoughts as if he is part of the conversation. Weird.

Moses frequently likes to bring up the week I lost 29k (last fall) but he almost always mis-characterizes it. Makes it seem like that is routine. My career has spanned almost 800 weeks now. I have had one such horrible week. As a matter of fact, I believe that is the only 20k + losing week I have had. One in 800 weeks. So it is not routine, but it is not abnormal either. Unfortunately Moses just doesn't understand variance. Card counters (make that legitimate card counters) sometimes lose and sometimes lose big and for relatively long periods of times, weeks or even months, That is variance and it is completely normal. Most of the different teams can tell you stories of being down 10's or even 100's of thousands of dollars before things turned around. These things happen and at my level, 29k loss while rare is completely in the normal range. Moses would know this if he was a real blackjack AP playing any kind of significant stakes. But he is not. He plays low limit in Reno because that is what Reno is.

So, I am not going to change ZenZone. I believe the rules are there are no rules. Anyone can say whatever they like about anything. And I am not going to come here and correct every times Moses lies, twists or manipulates something about me out of his jealousy / hatred. But you folks that regularly read this stuff just know that he has been proven a zillion times to be lying and making shit up. He is a troll.

And one final thing: This Junior in high school vs Jr High school mistake. Like I said a very simple mistake. Anyone could make it. I could read that wrong. But in Moses case he read it wrong. His "ladyfriend" read it wrong. His ladyfriends granddaughter read it wrong. Moses "friend" Tator read it wrong. Moses friend "old Lou" read it wrong. Every one Moses knew or claims to know read it wrong making this same mistake. And that is because these people aren't real people. These are figments of Moses imagination. They are some of the multiple personalities within his mind. And it's pretty crowded up there. Moses making this mistake is one thing. All these so-called people reading this the same erroneous way, just proves beyond any doubt that they are all just Moses and different figments of his imagination.

Now I am going to leave the Zenzone now again, as it is a forum that I see no value in (sorry Zengrifter, but that is the way you wanted it). So Moses surely fuming now and bouncing off the padded walls of his room, will continue with his agenda, his lies, his attacks. That is what ZenZone is for. And you people amused can be amused, but I just wanted you to know you are really just watching a mental patient. A really sick dude who likely on the worst of his rants is just off his meds.