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Yeah, I want to see how people see the long term future of this club, not just this year. I think most would agree, the Mets won't be very good this year and this year will focus a lot on the development of some of the young guys.

Originally Posted by MetsFanatic19

^We haven't felt that already?

I know it sucks, but we have to realize that now isn't the time to be expecting anything special.

Keep these in mind...cause I have this funny feeling some will forget this on Day 1 of the season.

I know it sucks, but we have to realize that now isn't the time to be expecting anything special.

I'm not expecting anything special, I'm expecting on the field progress, they made the bad contracts excuse already, and they still do nothing. They even shifted money over to next year, that's not rebuilding. That's just spending less.

I'm not expecting anything special, I'm expecting on the field progress, they made the bad contracts excuse already, and they still do nothing. They even shifted money over to next year, that's not rebuilding. That's just spending less.

I am amazed people can't see it.

Not spending money now and saving it for next year is called being secure.

Why waste money on aging replacements now when we have a chance to sign a big name guy in 2014?

Not spending money now and saving it for next year is called being secure.

Why waste money on aging replacements now when we have a chance to sign a big name guy in 2014?

Being secure? you mean securing 4th place? You're probably right.

A big name guy? like who?

If the team can't afford to sign a couple of decent relievers or an OF, how are they going to sign a big-name guy?

You do know that the money they don't spend this year won't be saved and spent next year right?

That's how you and I would do it, they won't. That's not how they roll.

This is the mistake you are all making, you all assume that money saved now is getting spent next Winter. SA promised big changes this off-season, but he's done nothing to the current roster. He said that to curry favor after another lousy season.

They will say anything to keep you on side.

Why is a team that is not spending a nickel this year, moving payroll over to next year?

Yes, the will come in fourth place. I think everybody knows that now. Winning is not the priority in 2013. Why does this keep coming up?

A big name guy? like who?

Here's the FA list again. With all the money the Mets have coming off the books, there's no reason one of two good ballplayers can't be signed.

If the team can't afford to sign a couple of decent relievers or an OF, how are they going to sign a big-name guy?

They have money coming off the books. Jason Bay, Johan Santana, etc...

The money really shouldn't be a problem in the next few years like it has been this year. Also, like I've said, who could they sign this year that would be a smart investment for them?

You do know that the money they don't spend this year won't be saved and spent next year right?

That's how you and I would do it, they won't. That's not how they roll.

This is the mistake you are all making, you all assume that money saved now is getting spent next Winter. SA promised big changes this off-season, but he's done nothing to the current roster. He said that to curry favor after another lousy season.

They will say anything to keep you on side.

Traded R.A Dickey for two great prospects and a catcher who is better than Thole.
Signed David Wright to th biggest contract in Mets history.

I would rather him done that than keep their situation mute and sign Scott Hairston and John Lannon or whoever you want them to sign.

Why is a team that is not spending a nickel this year, moving payroll over to next year?

They don't have much money to spend this year and there's nobody worth spending it on.

The priority seems to be as low a payroll as possible, that's not good.

I heard this about FA 2013 too...an FA list now is close to meaningless. Half the bets guys won't make it that far.

Bay is off the books, but they've moved some is his money onto next year, which makes no sense. They have also dumped 6-7 other big contracts and still no money to spend.

Who says money shouldn't be a problem? they debts are still huge, and revenue falls every year.

Are you telling me there wasn't a single MLB player who could not have improved this team? why is it the Mets who have dumped $50M in payroll are the only team in baseball who has not signed a FA?

You make it sound like DW was an addition to the team, he wasn't, he was essential for ownership to have any credibility whatsoever.

If they're going to spend next year, why are they shifting payroll over to 2014 instead of clearing the decks now?

Why will they have money to spend next year? apart from JS who else is coming off? and they have loaded money onto next year already...

Who would you have signed this off-season, without losing the 1st round pick?

"You don't know how to drink. Your whole generation, you drink for the wrong reasons. My generation, we drink because it's good, because it feels better than unbuttoning your collar, because we deserve it. We drink because it's what men do."

I'm not the GM, that's not my job. Tell me why signing a reliever or two or a cheapish OF in any way kills this golden future you think is inevitable?

Why have they moved payroll over to 2014?

$33M spent on two players for 2014...how is that the basis for a on off-season splurge when the team can only afford a $70M payroll?

Either you don't know, or your afraid to put your neck out there just in case your prediction is wrong.

"You don't know how to drink. Your whole generation, you drink for the wrong reasons. My generation, we drink because it's good, because it feels better than unbuttoning your collar, because we deserve it. We drink because it's what men do."