I will be there around 10 am on Sunday and if you want to bring saws or shovels or anything you feel is worthy you can bring them. We will work for a bit and then do a tag round. Thanks for wanting to help.

Stumps are a main stumbling block (pun intended) to a pleasant round there. Bring a pick/hoe type of tool and a bucket to collect trash. If you have tall kitchen bags with the red pull straps, you can place them at a couple of tee pads until more trash cans are brought in.

Ok, I was extremely dissappointed the other day when I went to play unger. This was the second time I played the course. It does have some great shots that can't be found on any other course in the city. The problem is this course has been here for how long now? There are still no signs, no maps, and a few of the holes were surrounded by water. I think the biggest dissapointment came from not being able to find a few of the tee-offs, for this course being as old as it is and not having any signs is just a shame. I have been to new courses that are only a few months old and they look emaculate. My personal opinion is that the RCF should just acrap this course and use the baskets at another location.

Jason,Everybody wants everything perfect immediately. Like a baby which the course is still in its infancy stages.We started working out there in the last 2 weeks waiting on the fall. It takes 5 yrs to create a mature course. This course is 10 months old.

STARFIRE wrote:We need tee signs before concrete, IMO. What's the hold up with that? It shouldn't take ten months to get signs or five years...

gottagothrow wrote:With the above in mind, my guesses:1st) Bulletin Board2nd) any course redesign that needs done due to frequent flooding or other general layout issues3rd) Tee Sign markers (and I mean 4x4 posts in the ground with hole #, distance(s), map? clearly on them.

Two has to come before three. You need to get the tweaks done and the design finalized before you get signs. When the course first went in, I remember it being posted that we needed to get some rounds out there to make sure the tees were where we wanted them. We have rounds out there, now someone needs to be in charge of evaluating the tee locations and making the final decisions before the tee signs can be done.

Changes that effect the distances or the look of the hole will effect the sign. There is a hole on the back course at Albert Oakland that was moved after the signs were done, #13 I think. When you get there and look at the sign, then look at the actual hole all you can do is think "WTF?" because they don't match at all, the sign still has the map and distances of the old hole. That is what happens when you move stuff around. There is no need to create more work to fix signs when you can avoid it by waiting until the tee locations are final.

I completely agree. At the same time, if we hurried up and got signs, we'd have to hurry up and figure out where they go. If we wait for the course to be evaluated it could take 5 years to get signs...Instead we should be on it like white on rice. We've got our rounds in, everyone has made comments, yet nothing has been done.

Good job to the people working to get this course looking better but let's start with the signs and then continue with clearing stumps, etc. It really isn' t that hard to figure out each hole and get a sign made up. There doesn't have to be any visual aid on the sign itself, just hole #, par and distance.

There is no reason it should be taking this long to get this course in shape. Measure the holes, put a sign in and keep it that way. I am saddened to see this course is still a mess.....