#raspberrypi IRC Log

IRC Log for 2011-11-14

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[0:04]* ahven (~ahven@jutukas.saarlane.ee) Quit (Quit: Disconnecting from stoned server.)[0:05]* ahven (~ahven@jutukas.saarlane.ee) has joined #raspberrypi[0:08]* lietk12 (~lietk12@lietk12.broker.freenet6.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[0:08]* zear (~zear@h196n1-g-kt-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[0:08]* zear (~zear@h196n1-g-kt-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[0:35]* zear (~zear@h196n1-g-kt-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[0:36]* zear (~zear@h196n1-g-kt-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[0:45]* zear (~zear@h196n1-g-kt-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[1:09]* zear (~zear@h196n1-g-kt-a31.ias.bredband.telia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[1:51]* Katwa (Cl6Ir@S01065cd9986ba4c1.du.shawcable.net) has joined #raspberrypi[1:52]* Cl6Ir (Cl6Ir@S01065cd9986ba4c1.du.shawcable.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[1:57]* IT_Sean (~IT_Sean@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) has joined #raspberrypi[1:57]<PiBot> IT_Sean| That can be our motto! #raspberrypi, more fun than a spreadsheet![3:04]* IT_Sean (~IT_Sean@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) Quit (Quit: orf)[3:11]* NIN101 (~NIN101@2001:530::216:3cff:fe71:5e1e) Quit (Quit: NIN101)[4:08]* Beakster_ (~Beakster@cpe.gs1tor.mpoip10.yyz.teloip.net) has joined #raspberrypi[4:11]* Beakster__ (~Beakster@206.248.156.154) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[4:12]* Beakster__ (~Beakster@206-248-156-154.dsl.teksavvy.com) has joined #raspberrypi[4:17]* Beakster_ (~Beakster@cpe.gs1tor.mpoip10.yyz.teloip.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[4:41]* protozoa (~billy@sky.zoa.io) has joined #raspberrypi[4:49]* UnaClocker (~unaclocke@24-113-85-150.wavecable.com) Quit (Quit: Leaving...)[5:29]* ReggieUK (ReggieUK@5aca561c.bb.sky.com) Quit ()[5:52]* jimerickson (~jim@97-125-233-142.desm.qwest.net) has joined #raspberrypi[6:05]* kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj1993) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[6:44]* kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj1993) has joined #raspberrypi[9:13]* diggy (~diggy@46.103.245.137) has joined #raspberrypi[9:38]* robbiet480 (~robbiet48@robbie.io) has joined #raspberrypi[10:36]* jimerickson (~jim@97-125-233-142.desm.qwest.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[10:41]* jimerickson (~jim@97-125-233-142.desm.qwest.net) has joined #raspberrypi[10:55]* rm (rm@fsf/member/rm) has joined #raspberrypi[10:55]* mdavey (~chatzilla@mail.aminocom.com) has joined #raspberrypi[11:17]* ReimuHakurei (~znc@reimuhakurei.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:17]* ReimuHak_ is now known as ReimuHakurei[11:18]* Reimu_Hakurei (~znc@reimuhakurei.net) has joined #raspberrypi[11:24]* Katwa (Cl6Ir@S01065cd9986ba4c1.du.shawcable.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:39]* Cl6Ir (~Katawa@S01065cd9986ba4c1.du.shawcable.net) has joined #raspberrypi[12:02]* kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj1993) Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:16]* piofcube (~piofcube@coms.openindieproject.org) Quit (Quit: Lost terminal)[12:55]* NIN101 (~NIN101@2001:530::216:3cff:fe71:5e1e) has joined #raspberrypi[13:14]<qzx> Does anyone here know how thick the rapsberry pi will be?[13:14]<qzx> or so to say, height[13:26]<joukio> well, I think the network connector will be the largest part as it comes to thickness, so pcb+network connector + sdhc connector at the bottom[13:26]<joukio> pcb wil be something like 3mm, sdhc connector as well and the network connector is 10mm or so?[13:27]<joukio> so, <20mm would be my guess...[13:28]<qzx> I have a black MacBook, and I removed the combo drive. The keyboard is quite thick and will take up a bit of space, but it's thinner at the edges (about 1cm from the edge).[13:28]<qzx> So I'm thinking, with the Ethernet connector far out to the sides[13:28]<qzx> I could probably get the rest of the board in the space reserved for the cd drive[13:29]<joukio> nice :)[13:29]<joukio> you could also desolder the ethernet connector and replace it for something slimmer.....[13:29]<qzx> Possibly, I won[13:30]<qzx> I might not need networking, except maybe IP over USB[13:30]<joukio> well, then just buy the a-model and route the usb to the outside world.... :)[13:31]<qzx> Jah, it should be doable, just need to get 10 on order as soon as they pop on the shop ^_^[13:41]<joukio> well, that would be after the 60 I need :)[13:41]<joukio> ;)[13:47]* ReimuHakurei (~reimu@wireless.sit-co.net) Quit (Quit: Leaving...)[13:47]* Reimu_Hakurei is now known as ReimuHakurei[13:54]<qzx> Might opt for trying to create a small cluster in an old laptop casing, disguising it as an old laptop[14:02]* IT_Sean (~sean@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) has joined #raspberrypi[14:02]<PiBot> IT_Sean| Wahey! Sean is here! :D[14:19]<ukscone> morning IT_Sean[14:22]<IT_Sean> `morning[14:23]* IT_Sean just deleted 5 gigs of temp files[14:24]<ukscone> :) more room for britney and lilo pr0n now[14:24]<IT_Sean> no, actually.[14:24]<IT_Sean> t'was on that server, here at the office, that had less than 300mb free on it's boot drive[14:25]<IT_Sean> now it's got ~5 gigs free on the boot drive[14:25]<IT_Sean> Win 2k3 server is NOT happy with only 300mb free on the boot device[14:28]<ukscone> yeah[14:29]* IT_Sean makes a cup of celebratory tea-like-substance[14:29]<ukscone> going to make an infinite improbobilty drive?[14:29]<IT_Sean> I was planning on drinking it, actually.[14:40]* atts (~asheehan@146-115-165-244.c3-0.wth-ubr1.sbo-wth.ma.cable.rcn.com) has joined #raspberrypi[14:46]* IT_Sean looks around[14:48]<ukscone> this place could do with a good dusting and a lick of paint. you aren't doing anything important IT_Sean so it's your turn to decorate #raspberrypi -- i did it last time[14:48]<IT_Sean> I'm working, actually.[14:48]<IT_Sean> but you are right. it is looking a bit sad in here[14:53]* ReggieUK (ReggieUK@5aca561c.bb.sky.com) has joined #raspberrypi[15:04]* IT_Sean hands ukscone a pot of paint and a roller and some brushes, and tells him to get to it[15:07]<ukscone> i have alot to do today -- got to go out and pay some bills and also get wife a present for her birthday tomorrow so i am busy[15:07]<ukscone> ReggieUK can do it[15:07]<ReggieUK> oh wow[15:08]<ReggieUK> I have the same birthday as your missus[15:08]<ukscone> a few years apart i'd guess though[15:08]<ReggieUK> depends how old she is really but yeah, a few[15:19]<ReggieUK> lets hope my present to myself of 100x10k resistors turns up tomorrow[15:20]* mdavey (~chatzilla@mail.aminocom.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:20]<IT_Sean> thats a lot of resistors.[15:20]<IT_Sean> are you blotting and scheming? or just resupplying?[15:20]<IT_Sean> *plotting[15:21]<ReggieUK> definitely blotting and schematicing[15:21]<ReggieUK> with an overstock of about 95 resistors too but 10k seem to come up everywhere I look at things these days[15:21]<ReggieUK> not sure if people are measuring stuff or just saying 'those will do'[15:22]<ukscone> they probably have a chart on the wall with values from 1 to 1,000,000 and they throw a dart at it[15:22]<ReggieUK> that battery eliminator used a 10k resistor to replace the thermistor[15:22]* mdavey (~chatzilla@mail.aminocom.com) has joined #raspberrypi[15:22]<ukscone> the 10k just happens to be where the bullseye would be[15:22]<ReggieUK> turns out it will actually still function from about 5k to 15k[15:23]<ReggieUK> so I replaced it with a 12k and everything is dandy[15:24]* IT_Sean hides the suspiciousily bullseye shaped "Resistor Selection Machine" on the wall behind his desk[15:24]<ReggieUK> I'm going to be attempting part of this mod tomorrow[15:24]<ReggieUK> http://www.yesyes.info/index.php/how-tos/modding-an-spc880-900-webcam-for-long-exposure/[15:24]<ReggieUK> or whenever the resistors turn up[15:24]<ReggieUK> without the usb hub part[15:25]<ReggieUK> so, ftdi cable controlling lines and 'amp' power on the webcam[15:26]<ReggieUK> looking at the voltages I don't think most of that circuit is necessary[15:26]<ReggieUK> ftdi cable will run at 5v and supply it[15:26]<ReggieUK> about 90ma[15:39]* Beakster_ (~Beakster@cpe.gs1tor.mpoip10.yyz.teloip.net) has joined #raspberrypi[15:42]* Beakster__ (~Beakster@206-248-156-154.dsl.teksavvy.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[15:42]* mdavey (~chatzilla@mail.aminocom.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[15:43]* mdavey (~chatzilla@mail.aminocom.com) has joined #raspberrypi[15:50]<ukscone> hi mdavey[16:12]<ahven> hello[16:30]<protozoa> so when is this board looking like its going to ship? december is approaching quickly :P[16:31]<IT_Sean> urf... protozoa. Didn't you get the memo?[16:31]<IT_Sean> Every time someone asks that, it gets delayed another three days.[16:32]<protozoa> lol, figured someone here would know[16:32]<ctyler> and if they do it in a new thread on the forum, it delays it 5 days.[16:33]<IT_Sean> we aren't half way through November yet. It could still come out this month.[16:35]<ctyler> Though they seem to be saying December these days.[16:35]<ctyler> FAQ1[16:42]* eephillip (~eephillip@pdpc/supporter/student/eephillip) has joined #raspberrypi[16:45]<IT_Sean> 'slong as it comes out THIS year[16:46]<IT_Sean> i.e. before 11:59.59pm on 31 December 2011[16:50]<traeak> :-p[16:54]<ReggieUK> everytime someone asks about the release date another pony dies at liz' hands[16:54]<IT_Sean> !![16:54]<IT_Sean> Liz 'd never kill a pony! :([16:55]<IT_Sean> (okay... i have to admit, i don't actually know the woman, but, she doesn't seem like the pony killing sort)[16:58]<traeak> who knows what she eats being a culinary critic[16:58]* datagutt (~datagutt@unaffiliated/datagutt) has joined #raspberrypi[16:58]<traeak> she's probably downed a few ponies :-p[16:58]<IT_Sean> yes, but, i doubt that she herself has actually killed them![16:58]* mdavey (~chatzilla@mail.aminocom.com) Quit (Read error: No route to host)[16:59]* mdavey (~chatzilla@mail.aminocom.com) has joined #raspberrypi[16:59]<IT_Sean> also, traeak, if you were trying to make that sound dirty, it didn't work.[17:01]<traeak> IT_Sean: that wasn't me...that was all you[17:04]<IT_Sean> Okay.[17:04]<traeak> hmm...should i get myself a new i3-330um based lappy ?[17:04]<IT_Sean> No. You should get me one instead.[17:05]* diggy (~diggy@46.103.245.137) Quit (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:35]<traeak> heh i'm sure you have plenty of toys :-p[17:36]<IT_Sean> what makes you say that?[17:36]<traeak> you work in IT :-p[17:36]<IT_Sean> so?[17:36]<IT_Sean> I'm talking to you right now on a laptop that dates back to 2003[17:37]<traeak> a faster compiler would help as well...c++ does suck for compilation speed, big time[17:48]<ctyler> laptop from 2003 is prolly about the Raspi in speed[17:48]<ukscone> Just went to get my biannual haircut & shave. They said they couldn't fit me in today as they close in 8 hours[17:48]<IT_Sean> you think?[17:49]<IT_Sean> 's a 1.33 GHz CPU w/ 2 gigs of ram.[17:50]<ctyler> hmm, a very nice machine from 2003 then :-)[17:51]<ctyler> model E of the raspi[17:51]<IT_Sean> :p[17:54]<traeak> sounds like a core i3-330um[17:54]<traeak> faster clock speed even :-p[17:58]* iMatttt (~imatttt@cpc3-farn4-0-0-cust594.6-2.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined #raspberrypi[17:59]<IT_Sean> it's a PPC cpu[17:59]<IT_Sean> It runs Linux quite snappily.[18:02]<rm> Apple?[18:02]<IT_Sean> yup. 17" G4 PowerBook[18:02]<rm> who else used PPC CPUs in laptops...[18:02]<rm> I see :)[18:03]<traeak> ouch 17" boat anchor[18:03]<IT_Sean> It's a fantastic machine[18:03]<traeak> even 14" is too big[18:03]<IT_Sean> 17" FTW[18:03]<IT_Sean> it's a great display[18:04]<traeak> so boat anchor laptop basically[18:05]<IT_Sean> i wouldn't call it a boat anchor[18:05]<IT_Sean> I've traveled all over the place with it[18:05]<traeak> not exactly something you want to pull out in an airplane[18:05]<IT_Sean> i've done[18:06]<ctyler> no boatanchor, "laptop encouraging the use of wheeled laptop bag"[18:06]<IT_Sean> it ALMOST fits on an airline tray table[18:06]<IT_Sean> it's not that heavy either[18:06]<IT_Sean> i've never once put it in a wheelie bag[18:06]<traeak> of course, only wierdo's and girls use wheelie bags :-p[18:06]<IT_Sean> exactly.[18:07]<traeak> i have a couple original aspire one's but they're to underpowered and screen to small to really do work on them for traven[18:08]<IT_Sean> I've carried this machine with me to mexico, panama, st.lucia, bonaire, aruba, bermuda, and all up and down the east coast of the US.[18:10]<IT_Sean> quite literally, actually. From Boston, MA to Key West, FL. :p[18:11]<IT_Sean> so don't give me the "it's too big and bulky to travel with" nonsense[18:11]<traeak> it is...i carried a 17.3" hp laptop for a couple of trips...pretty intolerable[18:11]<IT_Sean> it's the .3 that did you in[18:12]<IT_Sean> :p[18:12]<IT_Sean> and i bet that HP was heavier than this machine[18:12]<traeak> yeah...and there's this 15" toshiba core i7[18:12]<traeak> not fun either[18:13]<traeak> actually its 16"[18:13]<traeak> ugh[18:14]<IT_Sean> how heavy was that HP?[18:15]<traeak> no idea...the guy i work with uses it[18:15]<IT_Sean> more than 6lbs?[18:16]<traeak> probably[18:22]<IT_Sean> this machine is 6lbs[18:22]<IT_Sean> not too heavy at all.[18:32]<traeak> i prefer to carry a single backpack with clothes and everything on trips[18:32]<traeak> anyways :-p wayyy off topic[18:32]<traeak> !w[18:32]<PiBot> traeak: in Parker, CO on Mon Nov 14 11:53:00 2011. Temp 9??C. Condition: Partly Cloudy, Humidity: 16%. Later 12??C - 0??C. Condition: Mostly Sunny[18:33]<IT_Sean> I can still do that. I can fit a week worth of clothing & my 17" monster of a laptop into a backpack, along w/ a network cable, power lead, etc...[18:33]<IT_Sean> Course, these days, i usually just travel with my iPad.[18:34]<traeak> ahh so yo have been spending big bucks on toys[18:35]<traeak> my earlier point before we started this rabbit trail :-p[18:35]* diggy (~diggy@178-50-146.dynamic.cyta.gr) has joined #raspberrypi[18:36]<IT_Sean> It's a 1st gen![18:36]<IT_Sean> (but, yeah, i did get it new, on release day)[18:37]<IT_Sean> ((not the initial release day. Release day for the 3G model. 'cause i wanted 3G))[18:37]* IT_Sean is a ho for gadgets :p[18:37]<traeak> not married i take it :-p[18:37]<IT_Sean> why would you say that?[18:38]<IT_Sean> are you saying that there aren't equally geeky ladies out there? 'cause you'd be wrong![18:38]<IT_Sean> (but, yeah, i am single)[18:38]<IT_Sean> :p[18:39]* NIN101 (~NIN101@2001:530::216:3cff:fe71:5e1e) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)[18:43]* NIN101 (~NIN101@2001:530::216:3cff:fe71:5e1e) has joined #raspberrypi[18:43]<traeak> i'm not so sure a geek marrying a geek would work very well :-p[19:16]* mdavey (~chatzilla@mail.aminocom.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[19:22]<IT_Sean> why do you say that?[19:28]* robbiet480 (~robbiet48@robbie.io) has left #raspberrypi[19:34]* atts (~asheehan@146-115-165-244.c3-0.wth-ubr1.sbo-wth.ma.cable.rcn.com) has left #raspberrypi[20:29]* mdavey (~chatzilla@host217-35-75-188.in-addr.btopenworld.com) has joined #raspberrypi[20:51]* datagutt (~datagutt@unaffiliated/datagutt) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)[21:48]* kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj1993) has joined #raspberrypi[21:55]<Thorn_> what takes priority, hosts.deny or hosts.allow ?[21:58]<wcchandler> Thorn_: access is permitted OR denied on whichever instance it hits first[21:59]<Thorn_> i was hoping to have in hosts.deny[21:59]<Thorn_> *[21:59]<Thorn_> and in hosts.allow: 192.168.0.*[21:59]<Thorn_> essentially only allowing local network[22:01]<wcchandler> i'm fairly certain that will work[22:02]<IT_Sean> seems it'd be easy enough to test, too.[22:02]<Thorn_> yeah vm is still installing tho :P[22:03]<IT_Sean> ahh[22:04]<IT_Sean> aaaaaaaand i might have just bricked my iPaq[22:04]<IT_Sean> nevermind... s'okay[22:06]<ukscone> https://twitter.com/?photo_id=1#!/DeanBelfield/status/136187014998523904/photo/1[22:07]<IT_Sean> sweeeeet... the IR alarm codes to my friends old crapbox are still on here ::evil::[22:36]* ReimuHak_ (~reimu@208.119.81.194) has joined #raspberrypi[22:50]* IT_Sean (~sean@applefritter/IRCStaff/UltimateMacUser1) Quit (Quit: off)[23:23]* diggy (~diggy@178-50-146.dynamic.cyta.gr) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[23:30]* diggy (~diggy@178-50-146.dynamic.cyta.gr) has joined #raspberrypi[23:32]* kcj (~casey@unaffiliated/kcj1993) Quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)