now theres a leap, from the mundane poppy girly songs to one of serious song writing, more adventurous lyrics and instrumentation and a turn away from moptopdom.

i do agree that the leap from help! to rubber soul is huge.i always consider the jump from help! to r.s as being more significant than the jump from r.s to revolver.lots of people don't agree with that.i am looking forward to some interesting chat over the next few weeks.

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i do agree that the leap from help! to rubber soul is huge.i always consider the jump from help! to r.s as being more significant than the jump from r.s to revolver.lots of people don't agree with that.i am looking forward to some interesting chat over the next few weeks.

I agree that the jump from Help! to Rubber Soul was the most important in terms of songwriting (actually Rubber Soul is my very favourite Beatles album), but when we talk about recording techniques and sound I think that the jump from Rubber Soul to Revolver was the most important. I see Rubber Soul as the album with the best songs and Revolver as the most revolutionary album ever.

I agree that the jump from Help! to Rubber Soul was the most important in terms of songwriting (actually Rubber Soul is my very favourite Beatles album), but when we talk about recording techniques and sound I think that the jump from Rubber Soul to Revolver was the most important. I see Rubber Soul as the album with the best songs and Revolver as the most revolutionary album ever.

Totally agree there.I would also add that the whole "sound" of Rubber Soul adds to its greatness. It seems much more polished than Help to me, even though it was recorded in something of a rush to meet the Christmas release deadline. There seems to be more layers to RS, where Help was fairly one-dimensional - even though you get a cross-section of music on Help (from ballads like Yesterday to rockers like Dizzy Miss Lizzy), sonically it isn't half as interesting as RS. I think as well as The Beatles stepping up their game on RS, George Martin et al at Abbey Road were also becoming better at their craft and it begins to show from RS onwards.

Of course, there was also a big jump in sound from Help! to Rubber Soul, but Revolver was something completely different from anything done before by anybody. Different doesn't necessarily mean better, but Revolver was certainly a revolutionary album.