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Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

. . . it is ultimately a consensus of the scientific community that determines whether a purported discovery is valid or a crock of sh*t.

You claim "I never claimed that a consensus makes something RIGHT" and here you wrote the exactly what you claim you had not written.

You may not realize this, but "valid" and "right" don't have the same meaning.

We became a great nation not because we are a nation of cynics. We became a great nation because we are a nation of believers - Lindsey Graham
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Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

Originally Posted by AdamT

Mmm, I think the only thing IQ tests are good at predicting is how well you will do on another IQ test. They are not good at predicting academic success, nor are they good at predicting success in life.

Intelligence tests are excellent predictors of success in school (what they were originally designed for), and overall sucess. Your link wants to suggest that because they aren't perfect predictors, they aren't good predictors at all... which is a load of crap.

Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

Originally Posted by AdamT

IF you are actually a scientist with the advanced training required to rationally challenge the accepted wisdom. But it is the height of folly for someone who is not so trained (you or I, for instance) to imagine that we can know better than the vast majority of experts who have dedicated their lives to this pursuit.

If you spent any time in academia, you would see that the real number of true "experts" on something like this is rather small. Dedicating one's life to the study of wind patterns or modeling theory hardly makes you an expert on everything that goes into a theory of global warming.

I know many highly regarded, published scientists who don't understand some of the basic fundamentals of how science works being discussed in this thread. The have vast, specialized knowledge in their chosen area of study, but never took the time or an interest in scientific fundamentals. They simply adopted the paradigm of their major advisor, began doing research, and never looked back.

Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

Political labels change their meaning constantly. But Huntsman isn't a conservative and wouldn't have been under most old definitions; he's not really trying to bill himself as one, anyways.

He'd qualify pretty well under the fiscal conservative heading. Far better than most people who claim the title of "conservative" actually. Hasn't he had a budget surplus year after year since he has been governor?

Re: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

I have already contributed to his campaign once, and this makes me want to send the guy another check. However, since reason and sanity are not virtues Republican Primary Voters want in a candidate this year, I don't think this will help him out any.