Another aspect is that women are usually unable to think in a structured manner, they therefore often hold mutually opposing viewpoints but do not understand that.

I disagree with you, and I really like what you're saying.

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Originally Posted by Stormbataljon88

Women are much more conformal than men. The fashion and entertainment industries are very much aware of this. They will thus always be anti white pro multiculturalism in a liberal-marxist society and fanatical race separatists in a WN republic. Why? Because they are wired that way. No independent thought at all.

We're living in a liberal-Marxist society, and yet WN women exist. Apparently some of us have been able to break free of the influence of the fashion and entertainment industries, even without possessing independent thought.

Instead of branding all women as conformist, unreachable slaves to Jew media, perhaps we should think about how and why some women eventually escape the indoctrination, and focus our efforts on trying to spread the means of awakening.

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Originally Posted by Stormbataljon88

I see no reason for those males to share their power with women, who cannot do more than bleat during such disruptions.

Bleat. Bleat bleat.

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Originally Posted by Bobby Jones

As long as we have good White women like yourself to vote for Patriot's like Paul and Tancredo, we will be alright.

I never said it was fair. However, if such a simple answer cannot be guaranteed to be a positive one for our race above all, I couldn't care less for the women who think that way. (1)If they are to the point of taking negroes as hubbies and voting over the survival of the white race, then so be it. Set sail on your own sinking ship if that is what you choose.(2)For a woman not to put her racial beliefs before her gender ones calls into question their loyalty to the movement on a very basic level.

(3) And no, I find nothing wrong with determining where their loyality lies - I like knowing who I can trust when it comes down to it and who I need to keep an eye on.

(1) I do not chose negros over the white man.

(2) For a man to put a male agenda in with the struggle of our people causes the divide and is treacherous.

(3) Women have to keep their eyes open as well, to avoid following men who would have them silenced.

I will follow the WP movement that includes me, to the very end on all levels. Your views do not encompass all of the men involved in WP, and the ones who will have all of the female support won't be championing that mindset so it is doomed.

I support the white man and the white pride movement. I just don't follow you as an individual.

(2) For a man to put a male agenda in with the struggle of our people causes the divide and is treacherous.

(3) Women have to keep their eyes open as well, to avoid following men who would have them silenced.

I will follow the WP movement that includes me, to the very end on all levels. Your views do not encompass all of the men involved in WP, and the ones who will have all of the female support won't be championing that mindset so it is doomed.

I follow the white man and the white pride movement. I just don't follow you as an individual.

I never asked you to. Actually, I am probably one of the most liberal male WN's around in terms of personal liberty. However, I have an issue with people who put other agendas - economic, religious, gender or otherwise above our race. If you put your gender and racial ideals on the same level, then no, I wouldn't trust you for a second with my nation or to have my back.

I never asked you to. Actually, I am probably one of the most liberal male WN's around in terms of personal liberty. However, I have an issue with people who put other agendas - economic, religious, gender or otherwise above our race. If you put your gender and racial ideals on the same level, then no, I wouldn't trust you for a second with my nation or to have my back.

As I previously said, I am in full support of a woman's right to choose how to live their lives, but it doesn't get equal importance to me as the survival of my race. I'm not putting males first - I'm putting my race first. If you choose to value racial and gender justice as equally important, then you're going to butt heads with a rather large contingent of the WN movement, not just me.

As I previously said, I am in full support of a woman's right to choose how to live their lives, but it doesn't get equal importance to me as the survival of my race. I'm not putting males first - I'm putting my race first. If you choose to value racial and gender justice as equally important, then you're going to butt heads with a rather large contingent of the WN movement, not just me.

This thread spiraled into a woman's right to vote issue way more than it was about survival of the white race. Which, as you have even said, gender agendas should not be included in the movement for our people's survival, and stopping women from voting would be a male agenda.

Can you honestly say that you would follow any white power movement that removed your own, Weiß Stolz's right to vote on elections, just because it was the most powerful push for the white race? Or would you go "whoa... big fecking problem here, hold up?" That's what women are going to think about that issue obviously. Offering up bad decisions made by men as an excuse for it would not sit well, because you'd know that there were good men too whom you had faith in.

That's how I feel about me and my sisters. Best women on earth, we deserve representation.

Fred is very capable of becomming presidential candidate for republican party in 08.Ron paul is only at like 4% why Fred is at around 22% I like paul but I also like fred.And I believe that we should go with the one that can have a chance and that is fred.I would love to see both in office you know maybe fred as prez and ron as vice prez.That way we could have both of them and both their ideas.

This thread spiraled into a woman's right to vote issue way more than it was about survival of the white race. Which, as you have even said, gender agendas should not be included in the movement for our people's survival, and stopping women from voting would be a male agenda.

Can you honestly say that you would follow any white power movement that removed your own, Weiß Stolz's right to vote on elections, just because it was the most powerful push for the white race? Or would you go "whoa... big fecking problem here, hold up?" That's what women are going to think about that issue obviously. Offering up bad decisions made by men as an excuse for it would not sit well, because you'd know that there were good men too whom you had faith in.

That's how I feel about me and my sisters. Best women on earth, we deserve representation.

I see what you're saying and don't count me out as being on your side when it comes down to it. I think women should have the right to vote, to drive, to speak their mind - anything they damn well please. But when women come on here and try to throw on us men the same guilt trip we have to deal with from the Jewish media, it enrages me.

No matter the mistakes we've made, white men have always tried to do right by our women. Are there exceptions? Of course. But what other race has revered and served their women's interests better?

Have a little more faith in us. We're not all drunkard, abusive, belligerent fools trying to corner our women into a life of forced obedience. But don't think for a second I'm not going to raise an issue with women who value their gender beliefs over their racial ones. I've got a problem with that and it runs deep. It's tantamount to some crazy religious person telling me their religion trumps our race and that I better recognize it. No, I do not, and think twice before you suggest that to me.

The issue of utmost concern of the entire white race is our survival. If we don't succeed in throwing off the corruption of our brethren and the oppressive weight of the Jewish system, we'll die out. If we're gone from this world physically, not a single one of our ideals will matter. I'm not asking you or any other woman to "get back in line", but put your will behind what really matters first and foremost. And if women don't want men talking down to them and telling them what to do, don't give us reason to feel like we need to.

And in response to your rep comment, no I'm not "mean to girls". But I'm not some pushover lovesick idiot who worships women enough to let them walk all over him. If women want to be considered equal to men, you better be prepared to get shown the same treatment as a man. I don't go easy on someone just because they're female. It wouldn't be fair to me and it wouldn't be fair to them either.

I'm loathe to argue with Sword Brethren's 1000+ feedback, but I think these views are outside the mainstream of even what you see here on SF. I'm sitting here still trying to wrap my head around this assertion that slavery is OK because God says so. Race aside, the very concept of enslaving free men runs counter to the very spirit of the white western man since time immemorial. We might as well be talking about the divine right of kings. No offense, but if God says slavery is OK, He's going to have to work to move me on that point because I'd have to say He's wrong. As for women voting, there is certainly a risk they'll vote the wrong way, but this presumes men know the right person to vote for. We are certainly entitled to our views as much as anyone else, but I'm having a really difficult time relating to what Yahweh says and reconciling it with my own careful reasoning.

Actually, slavery has been the norm throughout the West since time immemorial. Pre-Christian and post. And of course that's also the case outside of the West.

As far as women voting, I'm a woman, and a voter, but certainly believe there should be some type of literacy test for all voters, male and female. It is true that many foolish and/or multiculti issues are voted in on the strength of women voters, sad to say and it is true that many women are ruled more by emotion than intellect. On the whole, having women vote has not been a benefit to White Civilization at least as of yet. In fact, I doubt I'd have a problem with a scheme that allowed only intelligent, WN White males over 21 to vote.

He goes on to discuss what Fred Thompson DID say, which was that birthright citizenship should be repealed.

This is one of the issues I will be keeping an eye on. This is crucial to our nation at this point in time.

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Originally Posted by Lady Orion Mystery

Good, he said it, but let us not analyze too much why he said what he said; the point is he said it, and therefore, let us seize upon the rightness of what he said and use it as a starting point to create dialogue on solving this issue.

Lady Orion

Funny how a thread can all of a sudden go haywire like that. It happens.

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Originally Posted by FreedomNow

Tancredo is a Jew tool.

*sigh* You know what, I really don't care what you think. There is one sole issue that I believe will decide whether or not this country implodes - rots from the inside, if you will - and it is this immigration mess that we've made for ourselves. Look at the links in my sig. What do you think I believe is the one thing that is killing this country the most? (and please, spare me the Jews this Jews that, because I'm well aware of the power they have and the death grip they have on this country)

Tancredo's platform has been run on the conditions of: ending birthright citizenship; punishing employers who hire criminal filth; putting a wall up at the southern border; shipping every last one of those invader trash back to their waste cans, etc. This is what matters to me. If Paul (by some miracle) gets the nomination, I'm all for him; but if Tancredo gets it, then that's where my vote will go. It's late in the game. All the candidates are in some way influenced by powerful elites. I'm a simple man...I want a simple solution to a MAJOR problem in my life: little brown invaders all over my country like stink on filth. Jews or no Jews, my vote goes to the candidate who promises to send these brown vermin back to the Thrid-World where they came from. Capice?