I've always thought Parise was the ideal winger for Sid. I totally agree with Dejan: reward Sid and sign Parise to any contract < 10 years < 8.7 m per.

Signing Suter would make this team better right now (than Parise); but I think long-term, with the defensive pipeline primed to go, signing Parise now makes more sense. He's a rarer asset. Signing both seems like overkill, like a drunken sailor, like Glen Sather... it never really works to build through free agency. The team has built its foundation on Crosby, Malkin, and now it's defensive pipeline. Put that to use. Give Despres and Dumoulin and Morrow a shot at making the team and contributing now. Sign the long lost winger for Sid that Shero's never been able to find.

Pens15 wrote:This unwillingness to frontload thing has me a little worried. Because you know that there will be teams more than willing to frontload, and it seems like that's something these guys prefer to have.

columbia wrote:He wants $80M (as if that isn't bad enough) and it to be front loaded?I'm not saying that's actually true, but good lord...this desire to spend ANY AMOUNT AS IS NECESSARY is getting out of control.

I highly doubt that. Shero wouldn't be offering something he couldn't afford. All we see is 80 million and then freak out. This guy is worth it and Shero won't give the kind of cash that won't allow him to sign Geno and the others.

You also have to take into account that Martin and Orpik won't be here when Geno's new deal kicks in and Letang is due. You have 8.75 million right there extra.

columbia wrote:He wants $80M (as if that isn't bad enough) and it to be front loaded?I'm not saying that's actually true, but good lord...this desire to spend ANY AMOUNT AS IS NECESSARY is getting out of control.

I highly doubt that. Shero wouldn't be offering something he couldn't afford. All we see is 80 million and then freak out. This guy is worth it and Shero won't give the kind of cash that won't allow him to sign Geno and the others.

You also have to take into account that Martin and Orpik won't be here when Geno's new deal kicks in and Letang is due. You have 8.75 million right there extra.

And you probably see Kunitz take a cut after this contract, should he even be resigned.

DontToewsMeBro wrote:If I'm Shero I let Parise name his price with the caveat the deal is only for 5 years. If we are paying Crosby/Parise/Malkin all ~$9 when they are 37...that is a recipe for disaster.

If our biggest problem is overpaying Crosby/Malkin/Pairse when they're 37, that's a GREAT problem to have. Worry about 2020 a little closer to 2020. Go about the business of winning Cups between now and then.

DontToewsMeBro wrote:If I'm Shero I let Parise name his price with the caveat the deal is only for 5 years. If we are paying Crosby/Parise/Malkin all ~$9 when they are 37...that is a recipe for disaster.

What do you think the cap will be in ten years? While I don't know either, I would bet that the % of the cap that Geno, Sid, and maybe Parise take in 10 years will be signficantly less than what it will be in the next year or two. So the bottom line is I wouldn't worry.

What I always find amazing is the number of people who try to cap manage with the Pens money. Burkle and Lemeiux pay people to do that. They pay Shero to manage that. If you don't like who the Pens are after or who they sign; that is one thing, but don't worry about managing it. It is not like Shero is going to sign Parise and Suter and then say "Oh #$%*#! We just screwed ourselves!" Not going to happen. They will evaluate and offer what they want, if it is enough, then they're here if not...Plan B or C or whatever. As much as some of us think; it isn't our money.

saints11 wrote:What I always find amazing is the number of people who try to cap manage with the Pens money. Burkle and Lemeiux pay people to do that. They pay Shero to manage that. If you don't like who the Pens are after or who they sign; that is one thing, but don't worry about managing it. It is not like Shero is going to sign Parise and Suter and then say "Oh #$%*#! We just screwed ourselves!" Not going to happen. They will evaluate and offer what they want, if it is enough, then they're here if not...Plan B or C or whatever. As much as some of us think; it isn't our money.

saints11 wrote:What I always find amazing is the number of people who try to cap manage with the Pens money. Burkle and Lemeiux pay people to do that. They pay Shero to manage that. If you don't like who the Pens are after or who they sign; that is one thing, but don't worry about managing it. It is not like Shero is going to sign Parise and Suter and then say "Oh #$%*#! We just screwed ourselves!" Not going to happen. They will evaluate and offer what they want, if it is enough, then they're here if not...Plan B or C or whatever. As much as some of us think; it isn't our money.

but it's cool to talk about...hence the purpose of a message board.

Right, god forbid we discuss hypothetical options for the team as fans.