I say we see what Whitehurst can do for the rest of the season. We need to know what kind of player we got in exchange for that third-rounder. Hasselbeck is done. There's no reason to bring him back next year.

And... as I was writing this, I remember that we're in the NFC West, and actually still very much in contention for a playoff spot, and our season is by no means over.

Mind-bending.

I think Pete said he was going with Matt a couple of days ago. Not sure it means much really, we know they both arent the answer. My guess is next years starter is not even on the radar yet.

I keep having this discussion with my dad about how bad Whitehurts must be if he can't even unseat Hasselbeck...

I try to argue with him saying Hasselbeck gives them the best chance to win...but it's starting to feel like I'm just trying to defend him for what he has done for the Hawks and not how bad he is now...

And yes, Pete said that Matt was going to be starting this week...*sigh*

I was just reading someone's math on our draft position depending on the result of our game against the Rams. (Not saying it's accurate but it makes for interesting discussion)

If we win, we are drafting at 21, possibly lower if we managed to make a run deep into the playoffs.

If we lose we are drafting at 10 with almost no possibility to move down, only the possibility of moving up.

Now the implications are clear, by winning we are most likely removing ourselves from any hope of drafting an elite QB prospect, but we get to go to the playoffs. By losing we have our chance of getting that elite QB prospect (maybe) if the top underclassmen declare.

So my question is...do you prefer the Seahawks to win or lose against the Rams next week?

I am not talking about rooting against the Hawks to lose, but about which option you think is better for the team.

Personally, I am not going to be heartbroken if they lose. In fact I think it would probably be better for the longterm if they did. Whitehurst is clearly not the answer, and Hasselbeck is old (see "freak hip injury").

By winning they effectively take themselves out of the running for an elite QB prospect. Yet we get to watch them in the playoffs. After watching the team get destroyed week after week by double digits (9 of their games) and sometimes against bad teams (see Denver and SF), I am not sure that I want to see their performance in the playoffs.

Again, not rooting against the Hawks, but I think it's more beneficial LONG TERM for this team to lose.

I was just reading someone's math on our draft position depending on the result of our game against the Rams. (Not saying it's accurate but it makes for interesting discussion)

If we win, we are drafting at 21, possibly lower if we managed to make a run deep into the playoffs.

If we lose we are drafting at 10 with almost no possibility to move down, only the possibility of moving up.

Now the implications are clear, by winning we are most likely removing ourselves from any hope of drafting an elite QB prospect, but we get to go to the playoffs. By losing we have our chance of getting that elite QB prospect (maybe) if the top underclassmen declare.

So my question is...do you prefer the Seahawks to win or lose against the Rams next week?

I am not talking about rooting against the Hawks to lose, but about which option you think is better for the team.

Personally, I am not going to be heartbroken if they lose. In fact I think it would probably be better for the longterm if they did. Whitehurst is clearly not the answer, and Hasselbeck is old (see "freak hip injury").

By winning they effectively take themselves out of the running for an elite QB prospect. Yet we get to watch them in the playoffs. After watching the team get destroyed week after week by double digits (9 of their games) and sometimes against bad teams (see Denver and SF), I am not sure that I want to see their performance in the playoffs.

Again, not rooting against the Hawks, but I think it's more beneficial LONG TERM for this team to lose.

For me, I want us to lose. We are not a playoff caliber team. I think it will actually hurt us going forward if we make the playoffs. This team just seems like its always injured and if we want to be serious next year then we need to be healthy and restocked with depth for next year, but thats just my opinion.

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Whitehurst is supposed to start Sunday. Which might be a good thing, because he's really, really awful. I don't think hoping the Seahawks lose is being a poor fan; it's being realistic. They've looked horrendous most of the year. we've got six wins, and the only reason the playoffs are even a question is because the division is awful. We need to start grooming the next quarterback. Whitehurst looked like he was scared to throw the ball. Horrible.

That has pretty much been the story of the last week. I hoped that the Huskies wouldn't embarrass themselves against Nebraska. I hoped that the Dawgs basketball team would sweep the LA schools in LA. I hoped that the Seahawks would win.

I was highly doubtful of every single one of those things and they all turned out good.

So I'm just gonna keep hoping that the Seahawks just didn't play themselves out of the running for a future franchise QB, and keep hoping that Locker falls to them.

Good for the guys but it comes with a price. they would have had the 9th pick with a loss and now potentially it's 21st or later. What this also means is every round you pick 21st, over the course of 7 rounds you give up 84 draft spots.

Good for the guys but it comes with a price. they would have had the 9th pick with a loss and now potentially it's 21st or later. What this also means is every round you pick 21st, over the course of 7 rounds you give up 84 draft spots.

This is actually the most important effect of the win.

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You guys are ******* embarrassing.

Why are we embarrassing? Because we're more interested in talking about the draft and the implications of the win against the Rams than the game against the Saints?

I can't say I'm unhappy about being in the playoffs, but... I also can't deny that I think it's likely that this is worse for our team in the long run. It's a result of how weak our division is, a bit of a schematic fluke that requires at least one of four lousy teams to end up in the draft position of a team that's supposed to be pretty good.