Did the groups behind the “Ground Zero mosque” / Cordoba House / Park51 chose the site explicitly for its proximity to Ground Zero, and then spent
months boasting about it in the press. Those groups are the Cordoba Initiative (run by Feisal Abdul Rauf, the “Ground Zero mosque’s”
imam-to-be); the American Society for Muslim Advancement, or ASMA (run by Rauf’s wife, Daisy Khan); and SoHo Properties (run by the aforementioned
Sharif el-Gamal, its CEO). Just a few brief but illustrative examples from the principals:

Feisal Abdul Rauf, the Ground Zero mosque’s imam-to-be, central figure behind the mosque project en.wikipedia.org...
He has refused to “repudiate the threat from authoritative sharia to the religious freedom and safety of former Muslims,” a pledge issued nine
months ago by ex-Muslims under threat for their “apostasy.”

He refused to describe Hamas as a terrorist organization,

He is an open proponent of integrating sharia into the law of Western countries.

Regarding 9/11 specifically, Rauf told 60 Minutes in September 2001 that “United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened.”

No transparency when it comes to funding.

Dutch Ministry denies subsidy for Ground Zero Mosque gatesofvienna.blogspot.com...
However, on the website of the Cordoba Initiative, which wants to build the mosque, Asma on the contrary is indeed is listed as a partner
organization. Asma’s founder, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, moreover, is also chairman of the Cordoba Initiative.

If you read no further, know this: RedState supports the Anti-Defamation League in its opposition to the so-called “Ground Zero mosque.” The
ADL is right on all counts: in its rejection of bigotry, its affirmation of American religious freedom, and its declaration that common decency
demands the end of this effort. As the ADL notes, this is “not a question of rights, but a question of what is right.”

"its affirmation of American religious freedom, and its declaration that common decency demands the end of this effort."

WTH does that mean? Religious freedom as long as it's the religion that they approve of? That's not freedom. That's not even Marxism. That's
Chinese Democracy.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
The funding for the Islamic center is coming from private sources, much like the funding for a church or synagogue might. Should there be any illegal
activity surrounding those sources, law enforcement would get involved.

Since when does the DoJ ever enforce all laws? AZ sure would like an answer to that. And the funding for political campaigns is also done
anonymously, to us and not the bribee; PACs. And then we have the really big elephant in the room, the banksters who counterfeit TRILLIONS of dollars,
at our expense, but they give lavishly to the PACs of both sides in an election. Does 'law enforcement' go after these crooks? NEVER, in how
many decades. They only enforce the law against their unwitting slaves. Us.
It is tradition, a biggy for Muslims, to erect a mosque at the site of 'triumphs of Islam' over us infidels. They are taught that it is ok
to lie, cheat, and steal (or just murder) to advance Islam.
While I firmly believe that the WTC was brought down by the CIA, they used the pirates as fall-guys, as they typically do, their MO, like in the JFK
assassination, and the OK City bombing. But everyone, almost, thinks that it was the Muslim pirates. So they want the credit for it.

Thanks for the links. I've read other information from the other threads that give me grave doubts about then intentions of the founders of this
mosque. However the project has been green lighted. So, what is a dignified response? I've learned in life that in order for an adversary to be
successful in offending me, I have to choose to be offended. Can we as a nation choose not to be offended? If we can largely ignore this building or
even give a cordial response, wouldn't that take away the petty triumph some may feel over building this mosque in this particular location.

I can't say for certain what is in its founder hearts but if they are taking some twisted pleasure in pulling a fast one on us, that's their
failing. They are just spitting on fellow Muslims who were also murdered that day.

I wouldn't worry about any nefarious plots hatching there. As everyone else has pointed out they can just as easily do their plotting anywhere else.
Recruitment may take place at this mosque but it's not as if that couldn't take place at any of the other mosques.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
The funding for the Islamic center is coming from private sources, much like the funding for a church or synagogue might. Should there be any illegal
activity surrounding those sources, law enforcement would get involved.

Since when does the DoJ ever enforce all laws? AZ sure would like an answer to that. And the funding for political campaigns is also done
anonymously, to us and not the bribee; PACs. And then we have the really big elephant in the room, the banksters who counterfeit TRILLIONS of dollars,
at our expense, but they give lavishly to the PACs of both sides in an election. Does 'law enforcement' go after these crooks? NEVER, in how
many decades. They only enforce the law against their unwitting slaves. Us.
It is tradition, a biggy for Muslims, to erect a mosque at the site of 'triumphs of Islam' over us infidels. They are taught that it is ok
to lie, cheat, and steal (or just murder) to advance Islam.
While I firmly believe that the WTC was brought down by the CIA, they used the pirates as fall-guys, as they typically do, their MO, like in the JFK
assassination, and the OK City bombing. But everyone, almost, thinks that it was the Muslim pirates. So they want the credit for it.

Thanks for the links. I've read other information from the other threads that give me grave doubts about then intentions of the founders of this
mosque. However the project has been green lighted. So, what is a dignified response? I've learned in life that in order for an adversary to be
successful in offending me, I have to choose to be offended. Can we as a nation choose not to be offended? If we can largely ignore this building or
even give a cordial response, wouldn't that take away the petty triumph some may feel over building this mosque in this particular location.

I can't say for certain what is in its founder hearts but if they are taking some twisted pleasure in pulling a fast one on us, that's their
failing. They are just spitting on fellow Muslims who were also murdered that day.

I wouldn't worry about any nefarious plots hatching there. As everyone else has pointed out they can just as easily do their plotting anywhere else.
Recruitment may take place at this mosque but it's not as if that couldn't take place at any of the other mosques.

You are misinformed and childish. Sorry for the name calling, but you are out of your element. Don't go around speaking for everyone who's "lost
someone on 9/11 or in Afghanistan."

I've fought in Afghanistan on multiple deployments and have lost more in terms of myself and my brothers than you could ever realize. It is not a
slap in the face to me or my people what-so-ever. And as for your little disclaimer of "not bashing the religion"...well yes you are.

A Mosque is a place of worship and solitude. Do you really think a large percentage of American Mosques funnel money into extremist militia groups? If
so, then you are ignorant, and I have been bred to deny you on ATS.

To be honest, everyone that is so against this Mosque represents the ignorance, hatred and fat-ass idiocy that is festering in the United States. I'm
sorry if you find it insulting, but I find it insulting that so many of you seem to think you know what is on everyone else' mind. This type of
idiotic, knee-jerk reactionary stance leaves me sad to have fought for this nation at times. You all talk about "denying ignorance" and the "MSM",
yet your anti-Islam points of view play right into the game that these entities have been playing. You shouldn't be threatened by a religion, culture
or building that you know absolutely nothing about. Reading wikipedia to inform yourself on Islam and the complicated cultures of the Middle-East is
not good enough.

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