-&gt; Holistics? The force itself directly intervened to stop Plagueis performing the first feat before punishing Plagueis by wrecking his shit.

-&gt; Knowledge? Plagueis knows how to manipulate the force on it's most fundemental level. He can literally put fckers into the force.

Plagueis is better than Valk in just about everything

Sidious? He's far more powerful than Plagueis. And we haven't even taken into account that Sidious is, at a minimum, a top 3 swordsmen of all time as of ROTS. Valk, he doesn't use a lightsaber. Valk con only keep himself from being skewered through the use of tutaminis.

How do you think this fight is going to go?

Hint: It takes way more energy to stop a lightsaber blade than to move a lightsaber hilt

TLDR: Valk dies. There's a reason Valk did so badly in Ant's force user tournament, and I don't think it was everyone valk fans disagreed with being stupid.

Freedon Nadd

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Sidious's power growth is likened to a "gravatic shift" and is big enough that the author feels the need to write metaphors about planets shaking in their orbit. He's far above Plagueis.

What Luceno said: Plagueis' reign is over, Palpatine's begins.
Also, the shaking part comes from Plagueis, and not Palpatine. And, to be honest, it is a metaphor - the events have not occurred this way - and it is more likely to be just a Disturbance in the Force.

Rockydonovang

I'm aware it was a metaphor, but it's not a metaphor the author would use if the growth wasn't massive.

AZ and co can deal with your first sentence.

McP

Sidious in a good fight takes 10 out of 10

Freedon Nadd

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
I'm aware it was a metaphor, but it's not a metaphor the author would use if the growth wasn't massive.

co can deal with your first sentence.

There is no literal growth. It's just Luceno saying that Palpatine's reign is over and Sidious' has just begun. You know that Luceno is a hypocramus author.

Sinious

It's not really that close and it won't be an easy fight, so I guess Sidious wins in a good fight.