I made them just now ONLY since I didn't have shortening I thought to use bacon grease..Yepz! bacon grease instead. I save bacon grease right after cooking bacon I put it in a crock in the fridge. Had a little less than called for I doubled the recipe. I also added a sprinkle of dry butter flavoring for popcorn. I've made biscuits from these forums before that were so bad and dry. These weren't I rolled them out a little bit and double stacked them. I put on baking sheet and brushed veg oil on the top. Baked and I am enjoying these now! Thanks for the recipe.