Not anymore, no. But I did spend at least 15 years of my life utterly hating my naturally larger body and it took a dentist telling me that I would lose my teeth if I carried on with my bulimia to have a first moment of "hmm, maybe this is really worse than I thought". Then my thyroid malfunctioned and I STILL thought I could somehow exercise and starve my way into a different shape.

It took getting lupus for me to really reconsider it all but it's only been about two years since I've stopped beating myself up about not looking perfect. Most of the time. Then some idiot decides to end a date suddenly with the words "I didn't realise you were so fat, you looked slimmer on the (current! unphotoshopped!) photographs". However, it doesn't affect me like it used to, now I'm most likely to say "your loss" and mean it. Not to his face, of course, when people say stuff like that their unkindness always shocks me too much for a useful comeback.

But I know that many, MANY young women are completely drawn into the ruse. To be fair, it's a useful way to keep their minds occupied - it amazes me that girls do so much better than boys at school, yet somehow they seem to lack confidence. Could it be that we are frequently seeing messages that a clever mind is all well and good for a girl but what REALLY matters is that it lives in a pretty head?

you realise not all men like thin women? or supermodels (most are not very attractive anyway) and there seems to be a huge gulf between what woman think is attractive (in a woman) and what men think.

Oh, absolutely, although there is a tendency towards making a difference between the women they want to be with physicaly and those they want to be seen with. Wimps

I don't mind if a guy is a bit chubby, as long as he is reasonably fit, strong and happy with himself with a clever mind and wicked sense of humour. After all a six-pack has never made me laugh, unless it was drawn on with crayon - now THAT would make me giggle.

All I said previously was that unless a person has a valid medical condition then they CAN change their weight and do something about losing it. Stop making other things up to suit your arguments.

Do you consider mental health problems as medical condition? If so many overweight people do not have physical health condition but cannot because of their mental health problems. Like anorexia and bulimia which leads to serious underweight there are mental problems like binge eating and comfort eating (usually comorbidity with depression) leading to overweight and obesity.

And sometime its a vicious cycle bad body image leads to depression and depression leading to binge eating. And only way out is mental health care….. I am not trying to justify anyone.

I am also guilty of sometime staring (natural reaction) at people who are much bigger or much smaller than "average" people. But I try to say they are also normal people just they lie in 95% confidence interval (like VS models who lies in the another extreme of 5%).

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I don't mind if a guy is a bit chubby, as long as he is reasonably fit, strong and happy with himself with a clever mind and wicked sense of humour. After all a six-pack has never made me laugh, unless it was drawn on with crayon - now THAT would make me giggle.

"I just love me a smart, funny, skinny guy"
-said no women ever

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Excellent point. There is an article somewhere from some PUA guy who reckons men should stop "settling" for sex with "inferior" (read: larger) women or even giving them any kind of positive attention as it reinforces their belief that they are okay and means that they will not slim down to attract males. Because of this, the pool of "hot" women shrinks and those women get more attention from more guys, which then lowers the PUA men's chance of scoring with the hot girls. PLUS, they get notions of how they should be treated! Shock, horror!

Unless you have a genuine medical or psychological issue, then being fat is completely avoidable. It is a simple matter of consuming more calories than you burn, and being "too tired" to take notice of your health and diet is really no excuse. Especially so if you have children who depend on you and will use you as a benchmark.

People are not "genetically fat". Sure, some people gain weight more easily due to a lower metabolism, but that doesn't mean they HAVE to be fat. They could eat healthily and still maintain an ideal healthy weight. Everyone can, barring debilitating medical or psychological issues..

Please either read posts properly, or don't waste both our time replying.

Well the thing is, people are entitled to offer services, they are not required to meet expectations of customers, if they're offering a service that is unique, and that there's demand for.

The only thing I could see them doing, is offering a different "brand" aimed at women with, more weight. But this would defeat the point of owning Victorias' secret for them, and Victorias' secret knows that.

I feel for them, but I find that people will look for almost any excuse to get mad at people for something, that is inherently, their problem.

for me it reads like "i have no money for a Ferrari! how mean, it should be for everyone...so please lower the price that i can afford one". geez, not every label is for every woman/man. if youre too big for the stuff then youre too big. fin.

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