Interesting and highly relevant  but your watching propaganda

First of all you will probably find my background interesting: Having a
bachelor in Political Science and a master in Political Communication I
have worked with public relations and lobbyism from inside the system
and know how rotten it can seem to be. I see Thrive as handling very
relevant subjects - but with the use of very well known
PR/propaganda-techniques as e.g. used during World War II.

I'm a big critic of the current economic world order and see a high
regulation of the top banks as very necessary step to ever get rid of
the huge gaps in human inequality. Therefore this movie was very
interesting to me. But Gamble definitely manipulates the viewer just
like the 'enemy' he is accusing.

Thrive connects a lot of very different an very complex subjects by
simply putting them next to each other in sequence without using much
time to explain thoroughly and scientifically the coherence  exactly
how Hitler (or Goebbels) always used to put rats and Jews together,
making a powerful mental tool to manipulate people's minds.

Notice how he suddenly jumps from one conclusion about extremely
complex problems to the other. Exactly like any other propagandist
would do. When just using a couple of quotes of well-known persons as
'proof' and then jumps to the next, any university professor would
flunk him had it been an exam. It's simply not scientific.

Now I could easily turn Thrive upside-down as a rich and powerful
person's (Gamble) own attempt to create a movement much like a
religious sect. Why? Think of the audience he addresses: People that
believe in aliens. Just like small religious sects appeal to people
that are easily convinced that their misery is because of some master
evil dominating them. The classic 'us vs. them'-way of propagandizing
as seen in any war and conflict.

Try watching a Youtube-clip about Scientology and see if you can spot
any similarities in structure and layout? Misery vs. perfection: People
suffering in a toxic wasteland, but by joining the movement you will
see people smiling like crazy in beautiful natural surroundings. It's
classic propaganda.

I would still recommend people to watch this movie since it makes you
think and reflect upon important subjects that we tend to not think
about. But put on your 'critical glasses' because Gamble might as well
attempt to use the viewer to become his follower and visit his website
and in some way supplying Gamble with money.

By writing this I also used argumentation based on
propaganda-techniques. My point is: Always be critical of what you see
and read.

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Please watch this!

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you,
then you win." - Wake up people! I can't believe, some of the ratings
on this site?! This is a must see movie. From energy, money, health,
world governments, deception on a scale that is beyond comprehension.
Take the time and watch this with as many people and pass this on to as
many people before its too late. Integrity freedom and compassion not
tyranny, destruction and control and fear? No thanks! We have to change
the way we do EVERYTHING! Some of the most honest people with the will
to fight the establishment. Withdraw your support from the global
elite. Follow the truth, stop the corporatetocracy!

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Thrive, is what the world should do

Foster Gamble presents this documentary, directed by his wife. He comes
from that ruling elite in America that he suggests is behind the most
extraordinary coup carried out in history. Power has gradually been
usurped, he suggests, and those who truly influence our lives have
become virtually unaccountable. The political faces we see about us are
just the tip of an iceberg that has truly murky depths.

His premise will be very uncomfortable indeed for those who do not have
an inkling about the way in which false flag operations have been used
to justify the wars that have drained ordinary citizens of money in
Europe and the USA and made certain small parts of society, that
control armaments and oil, immensely wealthy.

He interviews those who are in a position to know what is going on with
regard to power, the military and also the question of free energy and
extra-terrestrial involvement. It is not surprising that this film
attracts criticism, as it will have many elements that stretch belief;
on his web site he gives links that provide much credence to all the
key points he makes.

The film is presented very cleverly seeming to take the viewer off
planet to get an overview of earth and its inhabitants. A film like
this could just be depressing as it is suggesting that shadowy powers
have tried, and nearly succeeded in stripping fundamental freedoms away
in the Western World, and in particular in the US where many are sleep
walking into a legal framework where they have little if any recourse
to justice and real freedom at all.

This hidden coup has been accomplished by the expert deployment of
technologies of mind control initially developed in the Nazi era and
exported to the USA through the infamous Operation Paperclip.

So is it another of those documentaries that suggest The End is Nigh?
In a way, but it is not at all without hope and points to the very many
areas where extraordinary developments are taking place. It is easy to
watch this documentary and recommend it to your friends. It may not be
comfortable viewing but the very fact someone has bothered to make it,
and make it quite so well, is encouraging. We do indeed live in
interesting times.

The Truth Behind Thrive

Here is a blog post from one of the people (John Robbins - Published in
Yesmagazine.org) interviewed in this movie. Please allow the post to
shed clarity on this horrible movie:

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Thrive is the name of a controversial film that asks, and attempts to
answer, some of the deepest questions about the nature of the human
condition and what is thwarting our chances to prosper. Lavishly
funded, it features appealing imagery, beautiful music, and interviews
with many leading progressives, including myself. Yet ten of us have
signed a statement formally disassociating ourselves from the film.

In my case, the decision was especially difficult because there are
aspects of Thrive I find inspiring, and its makers, Foster and Kimberly
Gamble, are old friends. Why have Amy Goodman, Deepak Chopra, Paul
Hawken, Edgar Mitchell, Vandana Shiva, John Perkins, Elisabet
Sahtouris, Duane Elgin and Adam Trombly, as well as yours truly, gone
to the trouble of signing our names to this public statement? The
statement reads as follows:

"We are a group of people who were interviewed for and appear in the
movie Thrive, and who hereby publicly disassociate ourselves from the
film."

"Thrive is a very different film from what we were led to expect when
we agreed to be interviewed. We are dismayed that we were not given a
chance to know its content until the time of its public release. We are
equally dismayed that our participation is being used to give
credibility to ideas and agendas that we see as dangerously misguided."

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It has been painful for me to witness personal friends of mine become
caught up in seeing global warming as a lie, and just about everything
on earth as part of a vast demonic conspiracy. When I wrote Foster
Gamble to voice my disappointment with many of the ideas in the film
and website, he wrote back, encouraging me to study the works of David
Icke, Eustace Mullins, Stanley Monteith and G. Edward Griffin.

Who are these people, in whose worldviews Thrive has its roots?

David Icke, who is featured prominently in Thrive, is well-known for
advocating utterly bizarre theories, and claims that the entire world
is run by a secret group of reptilian humanoids who drink human blood
and conduct satanic rituals. In a recent interview, Icke seemed to be
competing for lunatic of the year. "What I'm explaining now," he said,
"is that the moon is not a heavenly body but a construct."

One of the signers of the statement of disassociation from Thrive,
former astronaut Edgar Mitchell, has grounds to disagree. As the lunar
module pilot of Apollo 14, he spent nine hours working on the moon's
surface. Buoyed by lush visual effects and lovely words, the Thrive
film has been attractive to many who know how often we are deceived and
exploited by the powers that shouldn't be.

The rest of Thrive's primary sources aren't much better. The late
Eustace Mullins was the author of a book titled Hitler, An
Appreciation. Stanley Monteith, who happens to be a neighbor of mine,
has long been involved with Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition, and
professes that the environmental movement is a pretext for the effort
to create a global police state. He and G. Edward Griffin have long
been members and officers of the John Birch Society, a far-right
political organization that first came to public attention when one of
its founders, Robert W. Welch, proclaimed that Dwight Eisenhower wasn't
the genial war hero and popular president he seemed, but rather "a
conscious, dedicated agent of the international communist conspiracy."
Welch co-founded the John Birch Society along with Fred Koch, the
father of today's notorious Koch brothers.

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Read the full post by searching "yesmagazine disaster by design" in
Google.

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Positive message marred by "New Age" baggage

"Thrive" concludes with a compelling vision of an egalitarian and
compassionate future, where humans live truly free lives in cooperation
with each other and the natural world. As a liberal environmentalist
type, I'm very sympathetic to that message.

Unfortunately, the film's path to that uplifting conclusion is rocky at
best, often relying on long-debunked conspiracy theories and
unnecessary pseudoscience. This mixture of a profound vision for the
future (although a tad too libertarian for my tastes) and unproven -
and unprovable -- speculation seriously compromises the potential
impact of the film's positive message.

A few examples, among many:

* David Icke describes some interesting observations about our corrupt
financial system, but the film doesn't mention his other belief: that
the Earth is controlled by reptilian aliens called Anunnaki from the
Draco constellation. Apparently, all US presidents throughout history
as well as Queen Elizabeth are really reptilian humanoids living
underground. (Yes, he's serious.) Why choose such a person to
communicate important insights into the out-of-control power of
international banking elites? Why not interview a sympathetic expert
who has deep knowledge of this exact issue, such as the Nobel
Prize-winning economist Paul Krugman?

* "Free" energy devices  aka "perpetual motion" machines -- have been
promised for hundreds of years. Although they violate the
well-established first and second laws of thermodynamics, and despite
dozens of documented frauds and hoaxes, the filmmaker is convinced that
such a device is right around the corner, where it not for a vast
government conspiracy. I too wish free energy was possible but I'm not
holding my breath, especially when perfectly viable renewable
alternatives already exist: solar, wind, geothermal, tidal, energy
efficiency, etc. Why speculate that the laws of the universe will be
overturned when the answers are staring us right in the face?

* Which is more likely: crop circles were created by extraterrestrials
or by local pranksters having a laugh? Some facts to consider: In 1991,
the British team of Doug Bower and Dave Chorley announced that they had
made hundreds of crop circles since 1978, and then were filmed actually
making one. There is also a UK crop circle-making artist collective
(www.circlemakers.org) that makes beautiful and complex designs. If
you're still not skeptical, ask yourself this: if these aliens are so
advanced that they've mastered inter-galactic travel, why do they have
to communicate with us by making obscure patterns in wheat?

* Speaking of aliens, as a life-long science fiction buff, I'd love to
believe that aliens have visited earth. Unfortunately, despite
thousands of "sightings" since the 1940s, no convincing evidence has
ever been produced. There have, however, been plenty of hoaxes, honest
mistakes, and examples of pareidolia (the human tendency to see
patterns in randomness) produced. The filmmaker believes that a 70-year
conspiracy among thousands of people to suppress the reality of alien
visitation continues to this day. As much as I enjoyed the X-Files, I
doubt that such an elaborate and long-term cover-up is possible given
human incompetence and the emergence of new technologies such as the
Internet, cell phone cameras, etc. The larger point is that while the
military and government certainly do keep secrets, why does the
filmmaker think it's necessary to dress up that kernel of truth with
outlandish speculation? Why not use well-documented examples such as
Bush's WMD lies, Reagan's Iran-Contra affair, Nixon's Watergate, etc?

* Was the World Trade Center deliberately blown up on 9/11 by Bush,
Cheney and a secret cabal of banks and oil companies or by a few
deluded zealots who were clearly captured on tape and witnessed by
thousands of people? I hate Exxon and Haliburton as much as the next
guy, but the evidence doesn't support this wishful thinking among the
left. Further, the filmmaker's insightful conclusions about the control
of the global economy by financial elites doesn't really require that
9/11 -- of all events! -- be the result of an elaborate conspiracy.

Thrive's heart is the right place: it tries to unite the Utopian dreams
of the left and right in an attempt to find a way to stop our planet's
accelerating downward spiral. But the dream does not require
evidence-challenged conspiracy theories, speculation, half-truths,
anecdotes, and paranoia. Even if the causes of our crises are more
banal than the melodrama depicted in the film, we can hopefully all
agree about the importance of working together toward a more
sustainable, inclusive, and free future.

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A step in the right direction.

An inspiring, well put together film. It starts off with a series of
odd topic that sort of put you off balance at first, but don't let it
phase you.

Dive right in and experience the film. Gamble takes you on his journey
to discover what's going on in the world around him, all the while
explaining things that few people know. I did love the Free Energy
references, though there WERE several advances left out. I won't go
into specifics, as I would like you to draw your own conclusions.

The overall air of the film is that of hope for the future, and it
slams the point across, time and again, that we must change.

A very good watch for intellectual friends or colleagues, if you're
bored and wish to stay home. Not for cynics, as there are a lot of
"Whoa now, c'mon." moments. All in all, I loved the film, plan and
watching it again, and am currently sharing it with all my coworkers :)

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"Boxed in" and badly under-informed solutions...

The movie doesn't bring anything new to the subjects. Also, is poorly
edited and chaotic. The first part it is pretty much about
paleoastrounatical hypotheses ala Erich Von Daniken mixed with some
random ufological facts and myths. It mixes science with lay
hypothesis. The second part is pretty much very simplified revision of
documentary "Money as Debt" mixed with Illuminati/New World Order
hypotheses in style of Alex Jones - Info Wars. The last part is
supposed to show the solutions we need to take if we want to change the
current social paradigm. Despite few good points regarding changing our
lifestyle and ceasing our support for current system it doesn't give
any rational and logical scientific solutions to current social
problems. Solutions they offer is nothing more but a patch-working the
effects of social/system defects and they are not solutions focused on
the causes of the problems. Those problems are not caused by some
secret government agenda or some secret society but malfunctioning
monetary/profit system itself and those problems are an intrinsic part
of it. Corruption of human mind is the effect caused by the corrupted
environment in which human being is being raised since prenatal stage.
Gamble has a very "inboxed" way of thinking in how he tries to find
"solutions" within current monetary/profit system. Well, I don't expect
creators of this film to think out of the box of monetary system as the
movie is not free to watch as they sell this film online and also ask
for donations. They try to persuade the viewer to join their movement.
I don't really understand why well educated person would do such thing
if there are other great and better organizations like The Venus
Project or The Zeitgeist Movement which offer very deeply researched
and educated scientific solutions to world problems...

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Quite possibly the most significant movie ever made

This movie made me wake up and see the world and what is going on in
it, as I truly is. It is extremely powerful and very convincing and
utilizes the expertise of some extraordinary people like Deepak Chopra,
David Icke, Astronaut Edgar Mitchell and many other amazing people,
authors and scientists.

The messages in this movie are relevant to everyone and could usher in
a new age if you are open to it, and willing to go deeper into the
rabbit hole after you watch it. I am without a doubt convinced by this
and I will do my best to share the message and give people the
opportunity to wake up and become aware of what is going on in our
world. The movie makes a very convincing link between the suppression
of medical and technological breakthroughs, the increasing governmental
control and restrictive policies, New world order conspiracies, 9/11,
the financial crisis and the banks role in it along with crop circles,
alien technology and ancient cultures, though they wouldn't seem
related at all. If you are willing to watch it with an open mind it
will definitely change your perspective. Even though the message of the
film is sinister and shocking, it will leave you feeling hopeful and
optimistic about the future of our civilization and planet.

Very big words I know, but watch the movie and you'll understand.

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A great compilation of alternative information., and positive!

THIS FILM IS NOW AVAILABLE FOR FREE. Check their web page for more
information.

Thrive is a film that does an excellent job of compiling some of the
most important ideas of fringe information. Even better, they provide
the viewer with a positive perspective on all of it. They even go a
step further with a web page to help network, learn more, and check
references for everything they state in the film.

I had previously watched over 300 hours of online video regarding
fringe topics. And I was really impressed at how Thrive took some of
the most important aspects of that information and put it in to one
film.

Fringe information can be disturbing. So the fact that they also give
some great positive ideas at the end is significant.

Thrive also offers some new ideas I had not heard before.

All media is biased. All of us...are biased. But I believe that if we
are to get closer to what the Truth really is...the best way is to
expose ourselves to a large variety of information sources and ideas.
This film is a great way to do that.

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A good mixture covering a broad range of topics - all inspire debate

It's very difficult not to remain cynical in this day and age. Such is
the make-up of our world, that people will always find reason to
criticise material that challenges specific consensus views of the
world.

This is no surprise given the way we receive and build our
world-picture in the modern age (predominantly through corporate media
and entertainment).

Thrive is a challenging documentary. It covers a broad range of
historical, mathematical, scientific, social and political realms and
reaches into areas such as the imbalances and structure of the global
monetary system, torus waves and their implications at both micro and
macroscopic levels, free energy devices and, refreshingly, offers some
inspiration in terms of moving forward in a positive way on a global
scale, without the need for traditional corrupt power, industrial and
monetary systems.

I'd have to say, I was inspired by many of the findings and, whilst
many will doubt, decry or deny any of it exists or is occurring in our
world today, I think it touches upon so many fundamental issues and
concepts that it is - at its very worst - an entertaining mix of what
appears to be well-presented scientific fact and at best, an
awe-inspiring call to wake up humanity and move forward on a global
scale, with equality and freedom at the helm of the movement.

Anybody who has a problem with these basic assertions for the future is
either blind, deaf, lazy, scared or lulled into a false sense of
individualistic comfort to the extent where they can barely see past
the four walls of their own little boxed existence.

There are some indisputable truths concerning the human situation
planted firmly through-out.

Well worth a watch, whatever your background or belief. This is one for
people with open minds and open hearts, or indeed anyone who craves a
safer, cleaner and more harmonious world.

It's also staggering to observe the volume of dis-information out there
today - I think 'Thrive' tries to present itself as a valid piece of
research and whilst I've not followed all of the references, most of
the evidence and sources are compelling enough.