Woke up this morning, immediately checked how things were going and as it looked like then, Trump was about to win, but it wasn't final yet. I immediately felt sad. I'm not saying Clinton was a good candidate. No, it was picking between two bad things. But how could one ever accept a lying, discriminating, woman assaulting racist idiot to be president? How can you sell this to your children? ''It's not okay to bully and discriminate, but no one gives a shit because you CAN make it to the White House''.

America didn't choose someone who is slightly better than Clinton in their eyes. America chose racism.

Also, I really wonder what consequences this presidency will have for us in Europe, and more specifically in the Netherlands where I live. I have read various articles where they've been discussed, but I wonder how much of it will be reality.

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I don't get it.

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I really wonder what consequences this presidency will have for us in the Netherlands where I live. I have read various articles where they've been discussed, but I wonder how much of it will be reality.

Just make sure that the Dutch government doesn't piss off Trump and you should be fine.

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Just make sure that the Dutch government doesn't piss off Trump and you should be fine.

Everyone on planet earth is going to piss this guy off one way or another.

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I don't get it.

I said I was stating an opinion. You challenged me to an argument. I told you to disregard the opinions of others and do your own thing.

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I can't personally justify Clinton in any aspect, no matter how much you hate Trump for being whatever the heck he is. Hillary's just pure evil.

And now a bunch of people are trying to say that the only reason Hillary didn't win is that She's A Woman
... because obviously if you're a woman then that's the only thing you can be judged by, it's not like you can dislike her for political reasons or anything else, right?

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@Little Piggy Dragonguy said

And now a bunch of people are trying to say that the only reason Hillary didn't win is that She's A Woman
... because obviously if you're a woman then that's the only thing you can be judged by, it's not like you can dislike her for political reasons or anything else, right?

It isn't that, it is for economic reasons from what I read.

Not just a Trump win, Republicans won both house and Senate.

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@Little Piggy Dragonguy said

And now a bunch of people are trying to say that the only reason Hillary didn't win is that She's A Woman
... because obviously if you're a woman then that's the only thing you can be judged by, it's not like you can dislike her for political reasons or anything else, right?

It isn't that, it is for economic reasons from what I read.

Not just a Trump win, Republicans won both house and Senate.

What do you mean "economic reasons"?

Everybody I have talked to that voted for Trump said they did it because it was a vote against Hillary and the establishment.

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@Evangeline said
I can't personally justify Clinton in any aspect, no matter how much you hate Trump for being whatever the heck he is. Hillary's just pure evil.

So you disagree with her on everything?

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What do you mean "economic reasons"?

Everybody I have talked to that voted for Trump said they did it because it was a vote against Hillary and the establishment.

But finally, take a look at the political map. Trump's victory was in the Rust Belt states, which used to be the greatest industrial center in the world, but have since been cored out by deindustrialization. President Obama, in the context of running against a Wall Street plutocrat, did rather well in these places.

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@Evangeline said
I can't personally justify Clinton in any aspect, no matter how much you hate Trump for being whatever the heck he is. Hillary's just pure evil.

So you disagree with her on everything?

Yes.

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Isn't there something incredibly tragic about the fact that, on the anniversary of the Berlin Wall coming down - something called for by a Republican US President, Americans elect a so-called Republican as President who wants to build new walls?

Isn't there something to be ashamed about when the first black President of the United States has to hand over to someone who was endorsed by the Ku Klux Klan, and who refused to reject that endorsement?

And the fear has to be, with a Republican House and Senate, and the chance to take the Supreme Court, the stench of this election may hang over the country for decades to come.

We are in for an interesting ride if Trump delivers, or tries to deliver, on his campaign promises. And an interesting ride if he delivers on few or none. Better buckle in folks. I have a feeling this is going to be bumpy, one way or another.

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