(03-04-2017 08:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: If you say there is NO evidence of Russian collusion between the Trump campaign and Putin you are blind to reality.

So far, literally no evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign has been produced. There is vague allegations and innuendo, not evidence.

No evidence has been produced to even show that Russia hacked the DNC server. I read the intelligence report. Basically, Ukrainian malware that anyone could buy on the internet was used to phish podesta. It certainly could have been Russia or it could have been a 13 year old in his parent's basement. The intelligence community at Obama's request put together a slapdash report that doesn't establish anything. I ask anyone relying on that report, what about Iraq and WMD's and other intel bloopers? An intel report is an analyst's educated guess basically.

There are a handful of contacts between Trump officials and Russia, but even those aren't that out of the ordinary.

I think a lot of folks on the left just don't recognize or understand what constitutes actual evidence. There are no eyewitnesses, tangible evidence, documents, or recordings, etc. that have been produced to establish that Trump and Russia colluded to hack the DNC's network.