I work in healthcare. The big push right now is getting as many people as possible to sign DNR's (do not resuscitate) forms, and other forms that limit treatment. I know this from personal experience. We are being in-serviced on it next week. The reason for this is hospitals know that most Medicare $$ are spent in the 6 months before death. The plan is to cut that 6 months short to save money. There are the standard DNR forms plus another, newer one that's making the rounds.

I work in healthcare. The big push right now is getting as many people as possible to sign DNR's (do not resuscitate) forms, and other forms that limit treatment. I know this from personal experience. We are being in-serviced on it next week. The reason for this is hospitals know that most Medicare $$ are spent in the 6 months before death. The plan is to cut that 6 months short to save money. There are the standard DNR forms plus another, newer one that's making the rounds.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12781064

Interesting.

It's not just about the old people in the last 6 months of life.

Just like the IRS gets to decide if you get an audit or tax-exempt status depending on your public opinion...these Death panels will be able to decide if you get medical treatment or not simply based on your political opinions, or income bracket.

Maybe get paper print outs of the meeting. Make sure to ask lots of questions.

I work in healthcare. The big push right now is getting as many people as possible to sign DNR's (do not resuscitate) forms, and other forms that limit treatment. I know this from personal experience. We are being in-serviced on it next week. The reason for this is hospitals know that most Medicare $$ are spent in the 6 months before death. The plan is to cut that 6 months short to save money. There are the standard DNR forms plus another, newer one that's making the rounds.

I hate to keep repeating myself, but anyone not seeing the distinct similarities of Obama and Hitler, are blind.

Quoting: Desert Fox

I surely agree with you, my friend.

I often wonder; If we could go back to 1938 or 1941 and tell the Germans and the rest of the world of the atrocities that were soon to befall them at the hands of a rising dictator, or the massive level of devastation and destruction that would soon be visited on Nagasaki and Hiroshima - just how we would be received since no one at the time could fathom the depth or breadth of the evils camped on their porches.

Yet, we look back through the pages of history and ask "How did they not recognize what was happening?". Just how did these people manage to sit idly by and watch the very fabric of their nations be shredded, and this with the assistance of many who said they "loved their country"?

At what point did it no longer seem a bit odd to be required to report your neighbor's activities to the authorities? On what day did it become more attractive to keep your head down and eyes forward while your communities dwindled in number? Just how much justification was given on the day that the decision was made that your money is better used for the fireplace?

What we most often discuss are the questions of "why" and "how". Specifically; "Why did these people allow their nation/ nations to be so radically changed, resulting in their own demise?", and "how did this person/ persons rise to such a dictatorial position in such a short amount of time, and even garner the support from a good portion of the populous?'.

We have had the luxury to have this history at our disposal, yet we have failed in the the greatest responsibility that accompanies history - to learn from it.

If this world were to be around another 80 years, just what questions would those people pose to ours?

Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.

I hate to keep repeating myself, but anyone not seeing the distinct similarities of Obama and Hitler, are blind.

Quoting: Desert Fox

I surely agree with you, my friend.

I often wonder; If we could go back to 1938 or 1941 and tell the Germans and the rest of the world of the atrocities that were soon to befall them at the hands of a rising dictator, or the massive level of devastation and destruction that would soon be visited on Nagasaki and Hiroshima - just how we would be received since no one at the time could fathom the depth or breadth of the evils camped on their porches.

Yet, we look back through the pages of history and ask "How did they not recognize what was happening?". Just how did these people manage to sit idly by and watch the very fabric of their nations be shredded, and this with the assistance of many who said they "loved their country"?

At what point did it no longer seem a bit odd to be required to report your neighbor's activities to the authorities? On what day did it become more attractive to keep your head down and eyes forward while your communities dwindled in number? Just how much justification was given on the day that the decision was made that your money is better used for the fireplace?

What we most often discuss are the questions of "why" and "how". Specifically; "Why did these people allow their nation/ nations to be so radically changed, resulting in their own demise?", and "how did this person/ persons rise to such a dictatorial position in such a short amount of time, and even garner the support from a good portion of the populous?'.

We have had the luxury to have this history at our disposal, yet we have failed in the the greatest responsibility that accompanies history - to learn from it.

If this world were to be around another 80 years, just what questions would those people pose to ours?

Quoting: ClydeX

Great post. Green for you.

:TOMABANEFOX: It's more humane this way ya know, or burn on totem pole. Choice is yours.

I hate to keep repeating myself, but anyone not seeing the distinct similarities of Obama and Hitler, are blind.

Quoting: Desert Fox

First noticed it, few years ago after buying a yard sale paper back about Eva Braun, strangely enough there it was about about Germany health care system the similars are uncanny .. These 'death panels' are real. And plenty doctors that will go right along with all of it.. there's now these special hospitals designed for patients 65 an older.

I hate to keep repeating myself, but anyone not seeing the distinct similarities of Obama and Hitler, are blind.

Quoting: Desert Fox

I surely agree with you, my friend.

I often wonder; If we could go back to 1938 or 1941 and tell the Germans and the rest of the world of the atrocities that were soon to befall them at the hands of a rising dictator, or the massive level of devastation and destruction that would soon be visited on Nagasaki and Hiroshima - just how we would be received since no one at the time could fathom the depth or breadth of the evils camped on their porches.

Yet, we look back through the pages of history and ask "How did they not recognize what was happening?". Just how did these people manage to sit idly by and watch the very fabric of their nations be shredded, and this with the assistance of many who said they "loved their country"?

At what point did it no longer seem a bit odd to be required to report your neighbor's activities to the authorities? On what day did it become more attractive to keep your head down and eyes forward while your communities dwindled in number? Just how much justification was given on the day that the decision was made that your money is better used for the fireplace?

What we most often discuss are the questions of "why" and "how". Specifically; "Why did these people allow their nation/ nations to be so radically changed, resulting in their own demise?", and "how did this person/ persons rise to such a dictatorial position in such a short amount of time, and even garner the support from a good portion of the populous?'.

We have had the luxury to have this history at our disposal, yet we have failed in the the greatest responsibility that accompanies history - to learn from it.

If this world were to be around another 80 years, just what questions would those people pose to ours?

Quoting: ClydeX

and THIS is exactly how I feel and act about Fukushima and our children's children's children.....

GLP's best Fuku thread: Thread: *** Fukushima *** and other nuclear-----updates and linkstwitter: #citizenperth“If I had an hour to solve a problem and my life depended on it, I would use the first 55 minutes determining the proper question to ask, for once I knew the proper question, I could solve the problem in less than five minutes.”- Albert Einstein

I hate to keep repeating myself, but anyone not seeing the distinct similarities of Obama and Hitler, are blind.

Quoting: Desert Fox

I surely agree with you, my friend.

I often wonder; If we could go back to 1938 or 1941 and tell the Germans and the rest of the world of the atrocities that were soon to befall them at the hands of a rising dictator, or the massive level of devastation and destruction that would soon be visited on Nagasaki and Hiroshima - just how we would be received since no one at the time could fathom the depth or breadth of the evils camped on their porches.

Yet, we look back through the pages of history and ask "How did they not recognize what was happening?". Just how did these people manage to sit idly by and watch the very fabric of their nations be shredded, and this with the assistance of many who said they "loved their country"?

At what point did it no longer seem a bit odd to be required to report your neighbor's activities to the authorities? On what day did it become more attractive to keep your head down and eyes forward while your communities dwindled in number? Just how much justification was given on the day that the decision was made that your money is better used for the fireplace?

What we most often discuss are the questions of "why" and "how". Specifically; "Why did these people allow their nation/ nations to be so radically changed, resulting in their own demise?", and "how did this person/ persons rise to such a dictatorial position in such a short amount of time, and even garner the support from a good portion of the populous?'.

We have had the luxury to have this history at our disposal, yet we have failed in the the greatest responsibility that accompanies history - to learn from it.

If this world were to be around another 80 years, just what questions would those people pose to ours?

Quoting: ClydeX

Great post. Green for you.

Quoting: Desert Fox

Thank you.

There once was a time when I believed my beloved country could be turned around and saved. It pains me to say that.

Kiss the wife, hug the children, and pat the dog - those are the things that matter.

Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.

YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period.

It's time the people of not only the USA, but the world, WTFU & not only defund Obamacare but defund our entire government. Defund, then repeal. Remember, this is NOT healthcare, this is a mandated tax!