Why america sucks

This is a discussion on Why america sucks within the A Brief History of Cprogramming.com forums, part of the Community Boards category; "they act like there's something wrong with nationalism."
There is, it promotes conflict.
"but it just ticks me off that ...

"but it just ticks me off that they ignore the fact they many others do FAR FAR worse, and they sit back and act like its ok then"

That is very true, many anti-US people are just as defensive about their own countries. And yes there are plenty of regemes far far worse than the U.S.

"1.) if your sayin pople have no clue abut anything then that is the fact on both sides U.S. and it's haters the majority of both have no clue"

It is true on both sides... to an extent. Non-US people often know about events that show the U.S. in poor light, but not about events that show their own country up.

However as I said the US is the most powerfull country in the world as such it has a lot of focus on it. The reaction that comes back is often one that seems to say "Hey we've never done anything wrong, America is GREAT, etc. etc." which doesn't exactly help the problem.

"2.) maybe for some but not all of us, many of us are not so blind"

Perhaps, but i do think that if a person is brought up in an environment where something is treated as positive, then they find it very difficult to appraise that same subject with objectivity.

" don't have the time nor the inclination to go into a hundred post debate with people that have no clue what the hell they're talking about"

Fair enough.

"i've been in to many arguements in boards where use opinion as fact and have no clue what they are arguing about. "

seriously? i haven't said it since 9/11, and maybe a few days after. my teacher doesn't care what we do while she's pledging. it might be true in other parts of the country, too. besides, what influence do words have from the pledge of alliegence that words from marylin manson don't?

>>"I do it because you cannot stop me anyway" is not a strategy that makes friends.

>(nv)'s comment on guns

Well, my reasoning is that if you make power available to the public, some people will use it in a way not intended. The more power you allow single people to have, the harsher the result when single people go insane. Single people acting weird is not an american phenomenon. It's just that here, they have to be real creative or use a knife. And you cannot kill as many people with a knife as with an M-16. So if you allow people over there to own automatic weapons, you should see that they could do great harm and little good with it. You think it's worth it ? Ok, your laws. But remember that when the next victim arrives in the morgue.

But we already had this discussion and it's worth another thread, not some sideline argument here. It's your laws, not mine, so do whatever you like best, earth is overpopulated anyway

>they act like there's something wrong with nationalism.

It's easy to feel that way. 5000 lives were lost. This is a tragedy.
However, American politicians speak about this in a way that let's the rest of the world believe it's a tragedy that 5000 *Americans* died. If it would have been 5000 Germans they wouldn't even have cared. Maybe that's not what you mean. I'm sure it's not what you mean. But that is how you *said* it, and that is how it is perceived by outsiders because of the nationalism. And thats wrong.

Another example of Americans thinking they own the world:

If I send something over the net using US Servers, and it's illegal in the US, I'm a criminal and can be arrested when I arrive in the US next time. Now, for a single moment, imagine Germany would do the same. Did that ? Ok.

Did you know Spamming is illegal in Germany ? And this is not a joke.

Sending Swastikas over the net ? Even in a computer game ? *click* Welcome to Germany. You are entitled to a lawyer. If you cannot afford one, the court will get you one. You don't have to say anything, however, if you do, anything you say can be used against you in court.

You think that's BS ? Welcome to the show.

( I could point out things I dislike of about any state, Germany included. But he asked for the US, so here it is That doesn't mean I hate you or think you are worse than others. )

>If I send something over the net using US Servers, and it's illegal in the US, I'm a criminal and can be arrested when I arrive in the US next time. Now, for a single moment, imagine Germany would do the same. Did that ? Ok. <

Um, a criminal is someone who breaks the laws of a region. in that Region. Since your breaking a law in a region you can be arested.

Its no diffent then if I were to go to the philipines and throw some garbage around.

>Did you know Spamming is illegal in Germany ? And this is not a joke.<

Bill of rights. Freedom of speach.

>Sending Swastikas over the net ? Even in a computer game ? *click* Welcome to Germany. You are entitled to a lawyer. If you cannot afford one, the court will get you one. You don't have to say anything, however, if you do, anything you say can be used against you in court. <

WHAT IN THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU! i will refrain from the explosion i almost typed!! just stop making dumbass comments, when you havn't a clue what the heck you are talking about.

Firstly, for years you have been the ONLY country opposed to the un setting up a global anti-terrorism orginization, prefering instead to rely on your own cia and wanting other countries to trust in it as well.
Second, you have never PROVED that it was osama bin laded or any even remotly associated with him who ordered the attacks on your precious buildings. Your own constitution says that a persin is INNOCENT until PROVEN GUILTY. Yet you remain perfectly happy to go out killing thousands of innocant (by your own definition) defencless people.

this is true. and your crappy tv shows, especially soaps !!

"prisoner cell block H" was a cult when i was a student !!!!!!

but i won't hear a word against Kylie, sure she can't actually sing but what an ass !!
she's next to royalty over here !!

Hey you guys killed cable tv in Australia!
Some 'genuis' came up with the idea to have a british channel. . . .
My god that was bad. . . . . 24 hours of TERRIBLE slapstick comedy from the 60's and 70's diluted by shocking soaps from the 80's

Just to let everyone know, automatic weapons are illegal in the US for civilian use and possesion. Only the military is legally allowed to have them. Just saying this because someone said automatics are legal in the US.

Originally posted by golfinguy4 Just to let everyone know, automatic weapons are illegal in the US for civilian use and possesion. Only the military is legally allowed to have them. Just saying this because someone said automatics are legal in the US.

yeah, i was thinking that.
the points still valid though, gimme an m-16 (even if its on self-loading not auto, or if its an armalite) against a guy with a knife anyday !!!

Hey you guys killed cable tv in Australia!
Some 'genuis' came up with the idea to have a british channel. . . .
My god that was bad. . . . . 24 hours of TERRIBLE slapstick comedy from the 60's and 70's diluted by shocking soaps from the 80's

why do we send each other all our crap ?????
excluding Kylie of course in that comment !!

Its just like whats happening in the middle east.
You sent us a couple thousand hardened (and some not so hardened) criminals, we sent you Rolf Harris. You sent us Denise Van Outen (but took her back when you reaised she was hot) we sent you Shane Warne (but took him back when he lost a bit of weight).
Its a circle of hatred and violence driven by revenge and reprisals and spiraling out of control.
If only our two countries could learn to peacefully co-exist. . .

But hey why stop now? We can cream you in both cricket and rugby so the way I see it we're on top.