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For those interested in Bigfoot, and the new work done on them by researchers like David Paulides, here are some pictures drawn by a police forensic sketch artist based on the face to face descriptions given to him by eye witnesses of the creature. You can see they are much more human looking than before thought. If you double click on the picture you can make it bigger.

For those interested in Bigfoot, and the new work done on them by researchers like David Paulides, here are some pictures drawn by a police forensic sketch artist based on the face to face descriptions given to him by eye witnesses of the creature. You can see they are much more human looking than before thought. If you double click on the picture you can make it bigger.

For those interested in Bigfoot, and the new work done on them by researchers like David Paulides, here are some pictures drawn by a police forensic sketch artist based on the face to face descriptions given to him by eye witnesses of the creature. You can see they are much more human looking than before thought. If you double click on the picture you can make it bigger.

14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: "See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him."

Who do you think this is likely referring to? A nation, angelic host, the redeemed, etc.?

Yes, EW has put together a good group of scripture. Here are some things I am thinking but I will also have to put together the scripture for it. At the end of the age will be the day of the Lord. The day of the Lord will start the last 3.5 years of tribulation [Jacob's trouble] and last for 1000 years [the 1000 year millenium]--as Peter tells us, a day is like a 1000 years. At the end of the 3.5 years will be the event known as the 'rapture' which will be the gathering of the saints [living and dead], and this will be followed by Jesus and his holy ones [that's us] arriving on the scene to rule and reign for the millenium.

The church [us] are being judged now. The Jews will be judged in the last 3.5 year tribulation. At the return of Jesus [he will return to save the Jews], the world will be judged in righteousness for the 1000 years and all the world will learn righteousness. Sheep and goat nations will be separated [based on how they treated Israel, I think]. The goat nations will come to Jerusalem each year to celebrate Tabernacles. At the end of the 1000 year reign is the second resurrection and the great white throne judgment.

Don't forget I am reading this literally. There are certainly spiritual ways to read this, but that's not my job. I'll work on scripture for this.

Molly, I've come to rely on the Scriptures that you read "literally"--makes my job much easier, less time-consuming, more productive. I need a better understanding of the physical realities as recorded in the Scriptures (OT/NT) in order to understand the spiritual truths revealed/taught by those physical realities.

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Molly, I just noticed your reply. I've been so distracted all day... I live in a senior housing apartment complex...we've had three or four ambulances here within less than 48 hrs.....

I did modify my posts to you a bit earlier... basically I was just interested in learning whether or not you anticipate a reappearance of Daniel and his three friends... I guess I was thinking about Elijah's return... but of course the Scriptures do tell us that he will whereas there is no mention of Daniel and his three friends coming again...

so I decided to modify my post to you... but it seems you were replying at the same time that I was modifying...well I did say I've been distracted. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Molly, I just noticed your reply. I've been so distracted all day... I live in a senior housing apartment complex...we've had three or four ambulances here within less than 48 hrs.....

I did modify my posts to you a bit earlier... basically I was just interested in learning whether or not you anticipate a reappearance of Daniel and his three friends... I guess I was thinking about Elijah's return... but of course the Scriptures do tell us that he will whereas there is no mention of Daniel and his three friends coming again...

so I decided to modify my post to you... but it seems you were replying at the same time that I was modifying...well I did say I've been distracted. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Ok, that makes things a lot easier.

This is all it says about Daniel, that he will be present at the first resurrection, having won the lottery!

13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days. Dan 12

Luke 17:27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.

"But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. You are all sons of the light and sons of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be alert and self-controlled. For those who sleep, sleep at night, and those who get drunk, get drunk at night. But since we belong to the day, let us be self-controlled, putting on faith and love as a breastplate, and the hope of salvation as a helmet." (I Thessalonians 5:4-8)

"For the Lord GOD does nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets. Amos 3

13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;

16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.

17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;

apparently there has been a preliminary release on DNA testing of Bigfoot hair which shows a novel hybrid species originating from a human mother [mitochondrial] and a nonhuman father of unknown origin dating back 15000 years. Apparently the father's DNA has no match so far in the thousands of DNA samples in current databases.

Not that I want to jump to conclusions or anything but...

Then the people began to multiply on the earth, and daughters were born to them. 2 The sons of God saw the beautiful women and took any they wanted as their wives.

4 In those days, and for some time after, giant Nephilites lived on the earth, for whenever the sons of God had intercourse with women, they gave birth to children who became the heroes and famous warriors of ancient times.

Here you go. Merry Christmas! [Alright, it's not one of the feasts, but I won't be bullied out of loving Christmas]

JOEL 2:1 Blow the Shofar in Zion, And sound an alarm in My holy mountain! Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble; For the day of the Lord is coming, For it is at hand:

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Joel 2 is one of the reasons that I believe that the day of the LORD will begin with the invasion of Israel by a hostile army [the overspreading of the abomination that makes desolate]. At the end of 3.5 years, Jesus will return to fight on Israel's behalf. I believe Joel is giving us a truncated timeline of these last 3.5 years. I believe the day of the LORD will then continue for 1000 years [for a day is as a thousand years], it will be as 1 day of judgment, and all the world will learn righteousness.

Blow the trumpet in Zion;sound the alarm on my holy hill.Let all who live in the land tremble,for the day of the Lord is coming.It is close at hand—

2 a day of darkness and gloom,a day of clouds and blackness.Like dawn spreading across the mountainsa large and mighty army comes,such as never was in ancient timesnor ever will be in ages to come.

3 Before them fire devours,behind them a flame blazes.Before them the land is like the garden of Eden,behind them, a desert waste—nothing escapes them.4 They have the appearance of horses;they gallop along like cavalry.5 With a noise like that of chariotsthey leap over the mountaintops,like a crackling fire consuming stubble,like a mighty army drawn up for battle.

6 At the sight of them, nations are in anguish;every face turns pale.7 They charge like warriors;they scale walls like soldiers.They all march in line,not swerving from their course.8 They do not jostle each other;each marches straight ahead.They plunge through defenseswithout breaking ranks.9 They rush upon the city;they run along the wall.They climb into the houses;like thieves they enter through the windows.

10 Before them the earth shakes,the heavens tremble,the sun and moon are darkened,and the stars no longer shine.11 The Lord thundersat the head of his army;his forces are beyond number,and mighty is the army that obeys his command.The day of the Lord is great;it is dreadful.Who can endure it?

Rend Your Heart

12 "Even now," declares the Lord,"return to me with all your heart,with fasting and weeping and mourning."

13 Rend your heartand not your garments.Return to the Lord your God,for he is gracious and compassionate,slow to anger and abounding in love,and he relents from sending calamity.14 Who knows? He may turn and relentand leave behind a blessing—grain offerings and drink offeringsfor the Lord your God.

15 Blow the trumpet in Zion,declare a holy fast,call a sacred assembly.16 Gather the people,consecrate the assembly;bring together the elders,gather the children,those nursing at the breast.Let the bridegroom leave his roomand the bride her chamber.17 Let the priests, who minister before the Lord,weep between the portico and the altar.Let them say, "Spare your people, Lord.Do not make your inheritance an object of scorn,a byword among the nations.Why should they say among the peoples,'Where is their God?'"

The Lord's Answer

18 Then the Lord was jealous for his landand took pity on his people.

19 The Lord replied to them:

"I am sending you grain, new wine and olive oil,enough to satisfy you fully;never again will I make youan object of scorn to the nations.

20 "I will drive the northern horde far from you,pushing it into a parched and barren land;its eastern ranks will drown in the Dead Seaand its western ranks in the Mediterranean Sea.And its stench will go up;its smell will rise."

Surely he has done great things!21 Do not be afraid, land of Judah;be glad and rejoice.Surely the Lord has done great things!22 Do not be afraid, you wild animals,for the pastures in the wilderness are becoming green.The trees are bearing their fruit;the fig tree and the vine yield their riches.

23 Be glad, people of Zion,rejoice in the Lord your God,for he has given you the autumn rainsbecause he is faithful.He sends you abundant showers,both autumn and spring rains, as before.24 The threshing floors will be filled with grain;the vats will overflow with new wine and oil.

25 "I will repay you for the years the locusts have eaten—the great locust and the young locust,the other locusts and the locust swarm—my great army that I sent among you.

26 You will have plenty to eat, until you are full,and you will praise the name of the Lord your God,who has worked wonders for you;never again will my people be shamed.27 Then you will know that I am in Israel,that I am the Lord your God,and that there is no other;never again will my people be shamed.

28 "And afterward,I will pour out my Spirit on all people.Your sons and daughters will prophesy,your old men will dream dreams,your young men will see visions.29 Even on my servants, both men and women,I will pour out my Spirit in those days.30 I will show wonders in the heavensand on the earth,blood and fire and billows of smoke.31 The sun will be turned to darknessand the moon to blood

before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.32 And everyone who callson the name of the Lord will be saved;for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalemthere will be deliverance,as the Lord has said,even among the survivorswhom the Lord calls.

--Joel 2

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. --Mat 24

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. --Mat 24

I Thes. 4:15 For this we are saying to you+ by the authority of the Master's Word,that we who are alive and surviving to the Master's Presence, shall by no means surpass those who havefallen asleep. 16 For the Master Himself will descend from heaven at ashout of command by the voice of a Chief Messenger, and at a blowingof the trumpet of God, and the dead who are in union with the AnointedOne will first rise up. 17 Then after that, we who are alive and surviving,will at the same time be seized away together with them into the airamong the clouds to meet the Master, and so we will always be togetherwith the Master. 18 Therefore, you must be continually encouraging oneanother with these words!

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. --Mat 24

I Thes. 4:15 For this we are saying to you+ by the authority of the Master's Word,that we who are alive and surviving to the Master's Presence, shall by no means surpass those who havefallen asleep. 16 For the Master Himself will descend from heaven at ashout of command by the voice of a Chief Messenger, and at a blowingof the trumpet of God, and the dead who are in union with the AnointedOne will first rise up. 17 Then after that, we who are alive and surviving,will at the same time be seized away together with them into the airamong the clouds to meet the Master, and so we will always be togetherwith the Master. 18 Therefore, you must be continually encouraging oneanother with these words!

Yes. "Seized away" = Latin "rapturo"='the rapture.' Looks like it doesn't happen until the end of the 3.5 years of the great tribulation, so the church will be here during the great tribulation, not raptured away. Don't you think?

At the end of Joel 2 we see the set up for it being described.

A gathering together of those left in Israel

Blow the trumpet in Zion,declare a holy fast,call a sacred assembly.16 Gather the people,consecrate the assembly;bring together the elders,gather the children,those nursing at the breast.--Joel 2

The bride [church] and the groom are preparing for the wedding ['rapture"]

Let the bridegroom leave his roomand the bride her chamber.

--Joel 2

The holy people in Israel who have been broken in their own power are begging Christ to return

17 Let the priests, who minister before the Lord,weep between the portico and the altar.Let them say, "Spare your people, Lord.Do not make your inheritance an object of scorn,a byword among the nations.Why should they say among the peoples,'Where is their God?'"--Joel 2

And, then he returns to fight against the enemies of Israel

20 "I will drive the northern horde far from you, pushing it into a parched and barren land;its eastern ranks will drown in the Dead Sea and its western ranks in the Mediterranean Sea.

My view of the catching away or seizing away is more like that view, yes, rather than the "Left Behind" scenario. It appears that's what that scripture is describing, a quick catching away after/including the resurrection. There may be an immediate return, I'm not sure - just a catching away to meet him, be transformed into immortality, then "back to work" :).

I also believe prior to that, during the tribulation He will "hide and protect" the elect (though it seems some will be martyred, perhaps the group of special ministers eaglesway was talking about earlier?). Do you believe most of the tribulation will be centered in and around Israel (though it must surely affect the rest of the world to varying degrees)l?