I want to share that the items I share in the thread on PSIP is not to be viewed as criticism.

It is NOT!. I am in favor of this effort and I am in favor of a Peer-to-Peer telephony (SIP) subsystem in Puppy.

I am sharing, thru questions, (tough ones in some cases) about the issues we are up against as we progress.

I have and do offer again to write a document with instructions for how to use standard SIP compliant devices and clients in a Puppy Peer-to-Peer environment.

We just need to come up with an implementation which matches some simple structure.

I am not a coder, therefore my skills that I offer, here, is in testing and documenting what's observed and what's useful.

So, if anything I have shared seems negative, or discouraging, please don't take it that way. I only mean to share items I think we may have to address as we progress in the peer-to-peer discussion.

All other SIP implementations, either via a soft/hard VOIP PBX or an external VOIP provider for SIP registration and IP call connections are already done for us. Even SIP gateway servicing for ringing real telephones in the world is done for us. Much is free, but also, many requires some type of implementations to purchase SIP devices, and adapters to interface with real telephony calling devices that users are accustomed to around the house or office..

In summary, I have been trying to make clear that there appears to be 2 issues.
One - which is already solved for us via SIP VOIP Registrars and Gateways
Two - Peer-to-peer which they don't make it easy for us to implement, directly, one user to another.

Please understand that by sharing this, I am trying to help.

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Will be ensuring mic and sip account works
You will probably be able to phone me in a day or two

Ok...I'll bite.

Quote:

sip:caneri@ekiga.net

I'll prolly regret posting this in public but what the 'ell.

I'm on FatDog64....I may need to load another iso/version....any ideas?

Hi Eric phoned you but you were probably busy making pizza (not online)
Will try again . . .
You will be safe - have placed my SIP and yours here (we can always remove - don't expect much traffic)
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Psippy

I don't see any reason why PSIP should not work on any Puppy that it is compiled and installed on - that is the aim for the updates if it is not working _________________Puppy WIKILast edited by Lobster on Wed 24 Aug 2011, 05:05; edited 1 time in total

I had a mishap with the psip.config but now it works with iptel.org on an old 409 install.

I need a newer iso as Fatdog beta5 doesn't work with psip so far.

caneri@iptel.org

Smokey..what's your number? (EDIT: found it and added to buddy list)

EDIT: I can't send voicemail to an inbox...howto?
EDIT!: hooray!!! sent voice message to smokey01...now to try and hit on lobster...bwahahahaah.
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# Network settings:
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--local-port 5060
#I think ice is important for maintaining routing information for those with dynamic internet ip addresses
--use-ice
#I think this might only work if you have a gizmo account
#--stun-srv=stun01.sipphone.com

Would it be helpful if we had an OTB Configuration Generator for PSIP? A tool like this would also be a syntax checker as well.

If so, who could design such?
Should it be integrated into PSIP OR should it be a companion to PSIP?

I think this would make it easier for us (and newbies) to use without having to appeal for assistance.

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Would it be helpful if we had an OTB Configuration Generator for PSIP? A tool like this would also be a syntax checker as well.

If so, who could design such?
Should it be integrated into PSIP OR should it be a companion to PSIP?

I think this would make it easier for us (and newbies) to use without having to appeal for assistance.

Hope this helps

Psip already has one, of sorts. The first time Psip is run it does not have a pjsua.cfg file in /root/.psip. It copies a default one from /usr/local/psip which is called pjsua.cfg.default and renames it to pjsua.cfg.

It's a little hard to automate it more it than this as you need to add your details, servers and buddy's.

This can all be done manually with a text editor but it can also be done under menu item configure.

BTW you need to activate your voice mail IPTel.org then I will be able to leave you messages.

I believe I have now done that - voice messages welcome

I want to go through some of the history of the PSIP project
that I hope is relevant. We did look at a great variety of software from Skype (Now a Balmer detergent software product) to Gizmo (bought and abandoned) and many others such as 'teamtalk' . . .
Most were too big, hogged bandwidth etc

I wrote the first prototype front ends using the current command line pjsau, to get the whole system working. HairyWills efforts later on very much surpassed my programming aptitude and I was no longer able to comprehend the code . . . Smokey and Evil20071 were also coding and working on the look and feel (from what I remember). Others such as Eric were kindly testing . . .

Part of the problem for Will was making a variable (config file) available to the gtkdialog3 front end and Will had to do all sort of programming gymnastics to get this working . . .

A lot of initial work was done with the configuration file
(a text file) where we edited in a text editor (as Smokey has kindly offered to do and I may have to take him up on).

Later on this configuration file became dynamic and automated.

So my efforts are now to try and manually get the config text files
working as suggested by Eric and Grant (Smokey)

And on this site would you post the location for the current PSIPs (both 32bit and 64bit)

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May try SIP from Android but that is secondary
to getting Puppy version working.

I must admit that these troubles are what I had
3 years ago
It was working fine during development
and then the 'improvements' meant it was no longer working (for me)
during the last two weeks (aprox) of development
That is the situation I still find myself in . . .

I have no idea what I am doing wrong . . .
Smokey has kindly edited my config file
- and given some useful pointers

May try SIP from Android but that is secondary
to getting Puppy version working.

I must admit that these troubles are what I had
3 years ago
It was working fine during development
and then the 'improvements' meant it was no longer working (for me)
during the last two weeks (aprox) of development
That is the situation I still find myself in . . .

I have no idea what I am doing wrong . . .
Smokey has kindly edited my config file
- and given some useful pointers

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