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All with their DW effects: Shroomish, Dratini, Gible, Mamoswine, Reuniclus, Tentacool, Venusaur, Weavile, Gligar, Sableye, both Nidorians, and Cottonee.
I have alot of stuff. I can AR things too. PM me.

ok so its not due to my ar? cause i dont want to be accused of hacking or anything

I can't say for sure. Ask a mod. I don't want to mislead you.

Edit: Found this in bulbapedia

In Generation IV, if a player is trading Pokémon and one of the Nintendo DS systems is turned off at a certain time, the Pokémon that was traded to the game that was not turned off will appear in both player's parties. However, this glitch is very difficult to perform and quite commonly corrupts save data. There are reports that this method is effective in the Generation V games, but such reports are unconfirmed.

DNS abuse
In Generations IV and V, by manually specifying the DNS address so as to connect to a server other than the GTS, it is possible to clone Pokémon.

So either during a trade or pretending to access a false server is the way to clone. I assume a record of the trade still happens which is why you still see outrageous trades. Problem is I see people using DNS abuse to make hacked pokemon.

In Generation IV, if a player is trading Pokémon and one of the Nintendo DS systems is turned off at a certain time, the Pokémon that was traded to the game that was not turned off will appear in both player's parties. However, this glitch is very difficult to perform and quite commonly corrupts save data. There are reports that this method is effective in the Generation V games, but such reports are unconfirmed.

DNS abuse
In Generations IV and V, by manually specifying the DNS address so as to connect to a server other than the GTS, it is possible to clone Pokémon.

So either during a trade or pretending to access a false server is the way to clone. I assume a record of the trade still happens which is why you still see outrageous trades. Problem is I see people using DNS abuse to make hacked pokemon.

So as I said earlier ask a mod. Thats all I could find.

DSN abuse requires an axternal site or program, so that's no less cheating than cloning with AR (I don't think that any method of cloning is cheating though). Here is what it says on Bulbapedian about the GTS glitch:

In Generation IV, a cloning method reminiscent of the methods from the first two generations appeared, involving the use of the GTS. If the Pokémon is deposited in the GTS and the connection is interrupted at the right time, the Pokémon in question would be in the player's party or PC Box and in the GTS, requiring the player only to withdraw the Pokémon from the GTS to obtain the clone. In Pokémon Platinum Version, however, the glitch of cloning via GTS was removed; if it is attempted, the game simply reports a communication error and returns the player back to the main desk.

In Generation IV, if a player is trading Pokémon and one of the Nintendo DS systems is turned off at a certain time, the Pokémon that was traded to the game that was not turned off will appear in both player's parties. However, this glitch is very difficult to perform and quite commonly corrupts save data. There are reports that this method is effective in the Generation V games, but such reports are unconfirmed.

I've done this before on accident. Was trading a Magikarp for a Starmie, the other person accidentally DCd and we ended up with 2 Starmie and no Magikarp.

After a very large amount of trades made, ever since I registered here in 2007, it seems I sadly met the first dishonest member today, and I'm now reporting him, hopeful that he won't be able to do the same thing to other members.

This member contacted me after reading a post of mine on the Togepi 5th Gen trade section , asking me if I had any female Togepi with the Serene Grace ability and the Nasty Plot egg-move, offering a shiny Cloyster in return. I replied affirmatively and added that, for the shiny Cloyster, I would be glad to add a male Togepi with Nasty Plot so he could pass it down by breeding, to which he agreed. On top of this, I made sure both Togepis had interesting IVs, specially the female one that is ready to be trained, something that wasn't asked, but that I was happy to do anyway.

After some days trying to finalize the trade, we finally arranged it a couple of hours prior to this post. Looking backwards, I now reckon the first sign this member could not be in good-faith was when he asked me, and I'll quote his private message: "and what pk u get again or was this a free gift?". Reminding him of what was arranged, he then replied "woah wait what sorry that was taken is kyurem ok haha", letting me know the Pokemon initially offered was taken. Displeased with the member not honoring his own side of the deal but, with really not much of a choice, I was happy to receive the Kyurem in return for the Togepis.

We then proceeded to the Wi-Fi room to finalize the trade. I gave him the first Togepi and he showed the agreed Kyurem, and two "fodder" Pokemon, which I reckoned I was to pick either one for the second Togepi. When doing a 2 for 2 trade, where I'm offered a rare Pokemon and a common one in return for my 2, I prefer to trade for the lower valued one first, leaving the rarer one for last, as proof that I will honor the trade and not leave after the first one goes through.
I picked one of them, a Gothorita, and confirmed the trade. Upon offering him the second Togepi, which would then be dealt for the Kyurem, I received a message stating I lost connection with the other player. Since the game returned me to the Wi-Fi room and said player was offline, I concluded he either lost connection or forgot about the second trade and manually disconnected his console.

It's pretty clear to me that this was done intentionally and that the owner actually prefers me to have the fodder Pokemon instead of the offered Kyurem, which is arguably more valuable, explaining the disconnection, the sudden change of mind regarding his request and the excuse of not being able to correct the situation due to him "being very busy".

I post this hoping a moderator will take notice and prevent him to trick further members with similar offers.

Once again I'm left waiting for the trade to be completed. It's 3:19am by the time I'm writing this. I have to wake up at 6:50 to go to work. I've spent almost all the free time I had during the past 7 days trying to call this situation to your attention, trying to recover from the loss I suffered from this trade and trying to arrange a date and time for this trade to finally be completed, inclusively forcing myself to stay awake through the dawn to catch him online. I've wasted time that I could have invested working on my master's thesis, with a dishonest young children that's successfully doing whatever pleases him, promising things he doesn't accomplish and arranging plans he ends up changing every time at the last moment justifying them with a roll of excuses that I've many times found out, and proved with screenshots, to be lies. Whatever the reasons could be that were preventing him to complete this trade, I highly doubt they're as urgent as what I've been giving up during the last week to do so. Still, I've been fully available at all times.

Obviously, this isn't about the Kyurem, as the member will quite happily hold on to it. The worry is that this is clearly a person who made a request which, naturally, took me time that I could have used in something else, changed his mind, didn't honor his offer and showed a lack of morals by not correcting his actions after knowing of the other part's dissatisfaction.

I'm starting to feel a bit humiliated and revolted with the way this situation is being dealt with. This member is being very successful in making me look like an idiot, forcing me to be in front of the computer during all the free time I had over the past 7 days, trying to catch him online and asking him times and times again to set a date and time for the trade to be completed. The moderator I contacted seems to have lost interest in my situation as well. I'm having an hard time understanding how easy it has been for Cueva27 to continually dismiss all the attempts I've made to correct this issue, making little effort in taking a proactive stance to reverse the trade. To make things worse, he's obviously playing around with me, saying and promising things he ends up changing at last minute.
All of this is making me believe it's very easy to trick the forums members in a trade and get away with impunity.

I vouch for my ethics and honesty when trading and never had any complaint from any member i traded with since I registered here 5 years ago. I have, inclusively, helped out members in several ways, be it helping them completing their Pokedex, giving them a particular rare Pokemon that I happened had to spare, without asking for anything in return, just for the pleasure to help. If needed, I'm positive these people will confirm what I'm saying.

Me and R'linho where suppose to trade for a Shiny Shellder but I traded it someone else because he would never pm me. (as in he didnt pm me for 6 or 7 days l8r so I assumed he canceled) i gave shiny shellder to someone else today we just traded and I said it was traded away is kyurem ok? He replied with "Yeah, i would be happy with Kyurem" When we went into the trade room I put up KYUREM GOTHORITA EVENT and DW AERODACTYL. I supposed he would pick kyurem yet he picked gothorita, So i said ok then and we traded after it he put up another togepi and I quit because I did not want another togpei. he pm'ed me and said what happend to kyurem, i said u chose gothorita, and he said that he wanted to give another togepi for kyurem and I said I dont want another togepi. BUT we can trade on the weekend if u want to give me gothorita back for Kyurem, yet he didnt care and just put me on the blacklist. I did not do anything and even said for kyurem. Yeah yeah yeah Kyurem for togepi fail but kyurem was just a gift and I need the togepi. Not only did i give him a good deal, but he just went and put me on the blacklist. So I am just saying dont be talking about me in a bad way when you have not heard my side of the story. I will still give him kyurem, but he decided to do something else.

Bro, we can still trade I dont care about Kyurem I only have 6 badges Kyurem was a gift, we can trade for kyurem and u can give me back gothorita but no need to put me on the blacklist when I offered especially a Bad trade against me when I get a common togepi and U get a event and Kyurem. Not cool, bro

Bro, we can still trade I dont care about Kyurem I only have 6 badges Kyurem was a gift, we can trade for kyurem and u can give me back gothorita but no need to put me on the blacklist when I offered especially a Bad trade against me when I get a common togepi and U get a event and Kyurem. Not cool, bro

Without seeing a screenshot of the PM's I can't do much. But Cueva27 is offering to complete the trade (I think). Is that alright for you R'linho?

But Cueva27 is offering to complete the trade (I think). Is that alright for you R'linho?

It seems that he's not unavailable to trade for a week all of the sudden...
How should I proceed now? I'd prefer a time for the trade to be set here, preferably by you, as he clearly can't be trusted.

Just to add, replying to his post, that the fact that I did not reply for 6 or 7 days later is false, and I'm hoping you can access our history of exchanged messages to verify that.
Also, if he changed his mind and only wanted to trade for one Togepi, why would he offer more than the Kyurem in the Wi-fi room? If his idea was to trade the Kyurem for the Togepi, then he would had made available only the Kyurem and nothing else.
Still, my main concern remains: he currently has posts on trade threads stating he's looking for other Pokemon and I'm afraid he might do this again to other people.

I would also like to report Cuava
We were arranging a trade last week, I think Friday, Cuava kept changing our arranged trade saying oh I want this thing, or I want that, we arranged to trade Saturday morning EST but then they randomly said sorry can't trade til maybe 7:30 pm your time, also kept bugging me asking for my bear flawless adamant DW torchic and saying they'd trade me their DW torchic for it, I asked about the torchic's OT and everything they never really said what it was, also wouldn't drop that I said no that I didn't want the torchic after about 20 PM's later, I ended up getting 220+ PM's from Cuava since Friday, I didn't take pictures cause I deleted all their PM's you can understand cause over 200 in less than 2 days is complete bull Crap -_- they ALSO kept saying they'd trade me this Pokémon, or that, then I'd say sure and they'd go and say sorry its taken, why the F*** would you offer something then randomly say its taken, I don't get why Cuava is doing this but at least I know I wasn't the only person who knows of this circumstance

LOOKING FOR A LIST OF ALL 3000+ MEW XD MOVE TUTOR COMBINATIONS. Please PM if you have one

SkittyonWailord : I am telling R'linho we can trade and I am saying we can go ahead and trade, for I am not allowed to trade on weekdays, we can trade but saturday, I said we can trade and u can have kyurem, but your decision..

DizzyCobraMew: I dont know why the heck you are putting mw on the blacklist, I changed our trade about 3 or 4 times which I admit I did, but I never sent u 200 friend requests or 200 pm's your computer must be messed up because I can see all my pm's and the highest amount I sent consecutivly was 2. Not 200, so dont lie, and there wont be problems.

I also never said that a pokemn I have is taken "to you" the thing between rlinho was dumb because our trade took about almost 3 weeks becasue he never took action into our trade, which bored me and so i went ahead and traded shiny shielder.

Last edited by Victory★Star★; 5th February 2013 at 4:48 AM.
Reason: add

R'linho
I never ment for you to think I scammed you, you say I am not "trustworthy", but I have told you if you would like to trade still for kyurem we can schedule a trade on saturday, you give me gothorita and i give u kyurem. U think I cannot be trusted, yet you are just thinking on your own blocking out everything everyone else says. I dont care about Kyurem I was given kyurem by negotiations, therefor I dont know if its legit, or anythhing else, but I dont care/want Kyurem, yet according to you "I seem to want you to not pick Kyurem"
I dont have plans to be your enemy, the only person on forums that i would be against is dizzy, yet forget that.
I dont have anything against you and therefor we can trade, I said we can trade on saturday but u just quit the trade and decided to report me on Blacklist. So I am not trying to do anything wrong and I noticed you said on the blacklist " that I have been searching for pokemon on forums still and you think I am going to scam someone else too". I dont scam, and never have, you are welcome to go ahead and trade Kyurem for me.
You also seem impatient, but I will try to do our trade ASAP...I have no access on weekdays maybe wednesday afternoon (school early release) or the weekend. PLEASE put this on the blacklist, for I mean no harm.
*Note YES I DO HAVE TWO ACCOUNTS: Cueva27 and Cueva-27, the reason is because i decided to make a new one for my 4th gen trades, so if I get banned (which would be partially pointless) feel free to ban my 4th gen account as well, im not trying to hide anything.
Sincerely,
Cueva27

I would also like to report Cuava
We were arranging a trade last week, I think Friday, Cuava kept changing our arranged trade saying oh I want this thing, or I want that, we arranged to trade Saturday morning EST but then they randomly said sorry can't trade til maybe 7:30 pm your time, also kept bugging me asking for my bear flawless adamant DW torchic and saying they'd trade me their DW torchic for it, I asked about the torchic's OT and everything they never really said what it was, also wouldn't drop that I said no that I didn't want the torchic after about 20 PM's later, I ended up getting 220+ PM's from Cuava since Friday, I didn't take pictures cause I deleted all their PM's you can understand cause over 200 in less than 2 days is complete bull Crap -_- they ALSO kept saying they'd trade me this Pokémon, or that, then I'd say sure and they'd go and say sorry its taken, why the F*** would you offer something then randomly say its taken, I don't get why Cuava is doing this but at least I know I wasn't the only person who knows of this circumstance

Did you actually do any kind of trade? If not then you weren't scammed and have nothing to do with this thread. There is also an option to block specific users from PMing you. You are free to use that if you wish.

It seems that he's not unavailable to trade for a week all of the sudden...
How should I proceed now? I'd prefer a time for the trade to be set here, preferably by you, as he clearly can't be trusted.

Just to add, replying to his post, that the fact that I did not reply for 6 or 7 days later is false, and I'm hoping you can access our history of exchanged messages to verify that.
Also, if he changed his mind and only wanted to trade for one Togepi, why would he offer more than the Kyurem in the Wi-fi room? If his idea was to trade the Kyurem for the Togepi, then he would had made available only the Kyurem and nothing else.
Still, my main concern remains: he currently has posts on trade threads stating he's looking for other Pokemon and I'm afraid he might do this again to other people.

I'll wait for your instruction on how to proceed with the trade.

Thank you.

I would need screenshots of both sides of the conversation, not just Cueva27's.

Originally Posted by Cueva27

SkittyonWailord : I am telling R'linho we can trade and I am saying we can go ahead and trade, for I am not allowed to trade on weekdays, we can trade but saturday, I said we can trade and u can have kyurem, but your decision..

I still don't see any problems with this. Cueva27 seems willing to finish the trade. Only being able to trade on weekends is quite reasonable.

I would need screenshots of both sides of the conversation, not just Cueva27's.

Cueva should be able to provide those. Still, if he confirmed the messages I uploaded, and even quoted some of them himself, word for word, wouldn't that be a confirmation that what I am saying is true?

Originally Posted by SkittyOnWailord

I still don't see any problems with this. Cueva27 seems willing to finish the trade. Only being able to trade on weekends is quite reasonable.

Are you being serious? Do you honestly think he proceeded correctly with this trade? What if I'm not able to trade on weekends? Why do I need to be the one accommodating for his needs, when I'm not the one responsible for this situation? Also, why didn't he complete the trade last Sunday, when this happened? Was it not a weekend day?

Originally Posted by Cueva27

This is a message I just sent to R'linho
*Ops please read.

I can confirm Cueva27 sent me that message. I contacted him back and asked him to pick a day and date of his choice (even though I do not agree it is reasonable at all that I'm the one that has to accommodate for the faulty part's needs). I will leave a post informing if the trade was completed by then.

R'linho
I knew you were going to say why we didnt complete the trade that sunday, I have proof that You did avoid me trying to settle this trade, so you kind of wanted to turn something small into something big. Also that day I was grounded and I asked my mom if I could only use it for 5 minutes, she allowed me and then took it away and I was going to eat dinner..so i didnt have time. I am only available friday (maybe because my mom lets me use it mostly on fridays), saturdays, and sundays.

SkittyonWailord
I would not like to exactly *report*, but I would like for you to do something about DizzyCobraMew, he is spreading gossip like a maniac, check R'linho's visitor message and you will see dizzy commented a random time saying "im on your side, I also despise Cueva27 and other crap" he is saying it to Charizard, R'linho, and many others, I politely asked him to stop yet he proceeds and even lies. If I really sent him "200" messages and friend requests, take proof for his lies is being too much full of problems, and he is being just ridiculous.

i guess and its a better deal 4 u cause togepi is a ev trained in special defense togekiss lv. 32.
If u have a problem with me already training togepi, then we will just trade so u get kyurem instead. :3