I mentioned commissioning a dynasty league this year but the response in the other thread was quite muted. This post might be more visible so if you fancy taking part, give us a this. Otherwise I'll leave it and assess interest next year.

Can't confirm that though - God damn didyousayhand and his destruction of league records!

The Pigeons only finished third last year after obviously being perturbed by the distraction of relocation. Hopefully they'll get back to making a claim for dynasty status this year.

The main issue facing my keeper team is whether to stick with the name More Than a Thielen. I still kind of like it but there's a good chance Adam Thielen won't be on the Vikings roster this year so I need to come up with alternatives.

Check in here to confirm your place. Myself, my mate Dave, hyg and brusma are already active, but the remaining 8 (especially fidel who needs to confirm his place by checking his email from about a month ago) need to confirm. Draft date admin to follow when we have everyone here.

I'd prefer it to be after the 3rd preseason game, reduces chance of big players getting shitty injuries (eg Jordy Nelson last year). I know some like to try and unearth sleepers by doing it before preseason games, but it really sucks when your team is hamstrung before the season's even started.

(I know you said we'd sort the date out later on, just thought I'd throw it in there)

I know TE is knocking about the boards, expect he'll be along shortly. t_s was very active last year in this but haven't seen him elsewhere, anyone? AFAIK pg didn't want to post in diS as much, any know him/how to find him/ whether he still wants to play?

There was talk of a dynasty league in one of the other threads, is that happening?

Also, could we consider doing a slow draft this year? Like described in the link below, except not with an unlimited amount of time. Maybe 24 hour limit. I have done one and it went pretty well... It's hard to schedule a live draft that suits everyone (and i'm moving abroad to +8 hour timezone next week which won't help)

i can easily forsee it ending up requiring a greater time commitment from everyone, because you never know *when* you'll need to pick again. especially with a s convenient for people in all the time zones, which i think is possible. if that means something lunchtime on a Sunday in the UK, that translates to 9pm where you are, so be it

Never been a fan of defensive yards allowed as a metric though, think it's too easily skewed by garbage time. In any event I'm in 3 leagues already which is about as much as I'm happy with (and still leads to annoying situations where some players are playing both for and against me most weeks).

Points allowed as a measure of Defensive performance can be easily distorted in other ways so no metric is perfect. Totally get what you mean by how annoying it is to have players playing for and against you at the same time.

how would you feel about me scheduling keeper draft same day, maybe at 6pm? i think i've got it the week before at the moment, but maybe doing it on Bank Holiday weekend would be better? and if so, but same day's a bad idea, maybe the Monday evening?

the player has the value of the round he was picked in last year, with some exceptions:
1) if he was undrafted, he's a 15th rounder
2) if he was kept last year by anyone, his value is 1 round before that round this year
3) if his value is a pick in a round you don't have, due to trading, his round becomes 1 round before.
4) if you're keeping two players with the same round value, whichever was picked earlier in the round last year has his value become one before. however, if you're keeping multiple players with a 1st round value, their values become 1st round and then 2nd round (if you're keeping 2 1st rounders) and 1st, 2nd and 3rd (if you're keeping 3 1st rounders)

that doesn't make a whole heap of sense probably, so i'm happy to double-check what round values players have and tell you, if you want that please DM me.

if in general you're not sure what round value all your players have, DM me their names and i'll let you know

10th for Decker or 15th for Osweiler
Got to feel Osweiler has the higher upside and at 15 obviously is coming at no cost whatsoever.
Decker is a solid WR3 though and 10th is an OK spot for that. Could potentially get Brock at the bottom of the draft anyway, but possibly not Decker.
Hmmmm...

assuming severed can't be arsed, which certainly appears to be the case. Any takers? Not someone currently in div 2 or it fucks things up. Alternatively we just let it autodraft and find someone as we go along.

but last year we decided it was easier to just find some new blood for div 1. Hence one of my mates and one of Steved's mates are now in Div 1. I'm holding out for another Disser for now though. I might make agg_pass do it if there's no-one else.

Read an article which looked at the top 5 performing QBs eack week. Overall QBs who were likely to still be available each week in most leagues appeared in the weekly top 5 more often than QBs who were drafted in most leagues. Of course, picking one of the right available QBs each week is another matter.

But there's definitely something to be said for being able to have a QB who you just go with every week - obviously no-one finishes top 12 every week, but if your man is consistently projected as being a top 8 player, it saves headaches, which as mentioned by HYG, isn't to be disregarded.
It happens with other positions, of course, but idk, when it's picking 2/3 out of 4/5 (rather than 1 out of 2/3), it doesn't feel like quite such a momentous decision. To me at any rate. Same can be said about defenses to a degree - streaming is much easier, but it is nice to just pick up a good D a round earlier than you *should*, and just leave it in there all season.

I'd like to leave it later and pick up a serviceable one, possibly even stream, but on the other hand Cam pretty much single handedly carried me to the keeper league title last year. I was putting out Christine Michael, James White and Reuben Randle by the final.

I think it is better to wait on QB, as the difference between a top 5 QB and a top 15 QB isn't worth the 5 round difference... but boy am I jealous of those guys with a plug and play QB.
But then I guess they tend to be jealous of your WR1 and 2, or your RB or TE. All of what makes it fun!

So many of your skill players might flame out / go down with injury. I know they're the ones who rack up the big points, but there's so much value in having a reliable QB / def / kicker. For example:

"Gostkowski scored 168 fantasy points (based on leagues where you get four points for field goals of 40-49 yards as the Lord intended). He outscored the following players who had an ADP of the fifth round. Jonathan Stewart (139), Carlos Hyde (66), Jordan Matthews (139), Julian Edelman (107), Latavius Murray (148) and DeSean Jackson (72)."

Why not get Cam early? He's basically a number one RB as well as a QB. And the Seahawks def will probably net you more points than any TE (Gronk aside).

From the quote provided, Gostkowski should really be compared with other kickers though as that position is generally picked in the last round. Picking up another suitable kicker in any other week is easy anyway.

The idea of having a reliable DEF seems unrealistic to me. Looking at the overall total points for the season isn't that useful. That position tends to be very up and down each week, so even the best DEFs over the season are likely to have as many underwhelming weeks as good weeks. It is as much about identifying bad offenses on a weekly basis as good defenses.

I don't think I can get on board with not having a reliable QB though. Cam is certainly worth grabbing pretty early on.

It's why I think Gronk is a fair shout for round 1, he'll potentially give you so many more points than other TEs, arguably much more so than the difference between a WR 1 and 2 or 2 and 3. Most kickers will get something like (at a guess) 8 points a game? 2 FGs and 2 XPs? Anything more than 12 is pretty flukey, anything less than 5 is unlucky. Whereas all other positions have a much bigger gap between floor and ceiling.
Disagree to a degree about D/STs though - I do agree it's up and down, and depends a lot on oppo (which *can* be accounted for I guess), but certain Ds are more likely to come away with interceptions and sacks. Streaming is definitely very viable though, to be sure. I really like the rotoworld breakdown of Ds week to week - every week Ds, all but except against elite Offence Ds, oppo dependent Ds, oh-look-they're-playing-San-Francisco Ds, etc

Looking at the weekly scores for the top 5 scoring DEFs from last season the number of weeks they do little for you is notable. Even the much lauded Denver was a modest scoring DEF for half of the season. Kansas was the only one of those teams to get into double digits more often than not.

Picking a top ten D is easy after the points are in! There's so much luck in fantasy - you'd still pick Denver against Oakland, San Diego and (AJ McCarron led) Cincinnati all at home (esp after scoring 23 at Oakland and 22 at SD earlier in the season) - but they ended up with 7, 7, and 5 (evidently we're looking at slightly different scoring!).

Totally take your point about week to week, but there is no failsafe way of doing it (generally always a waiver battle for the D playing a terrible offence as well), and getting hold of a D with a chance nigh-on every week of getting 10+ points is generally one less decision to make.

I don't think streaming is any better or worse than sticking with the same DEF - you are going to be disappointed often no matter which option you go for.

I think the safest approach is to keep a good DEF on your roster as your default choice and keep an eye on the streaming options each week, particularly if you have a bad matchup for your default choice.

a_p, check your facebook. For anyone else in div 1 on facebook, feel free to add me and I'll set up a group or something for trades and epic bantz. geoff.hurst1, except not geoff, see Joey Jo Jo in Div 1 for the first name.

Before he had played a snap. Being a Giants fan I was pretty tuned in to when he would return to the field and had been following him before his hamstring injury in OTAs. Was worth a chance for free I thought. Glad I did it!

pretty pleased with this. RB2 will be a bit of a sore point, and maybe picking a prospect instead of a second TE would've been better. like my QB look though, and if anyone wants to make an early offer for Rivers or Carr...

think Justin Tucker's my most drafted player in all drafts ever by an absolute mile

Grade B, projected 7-7, 5th place. Fair enough, bit of a middling draft, didn't enjoy drafting at 3, think it's in a spot where you can only really have one true WR1 or RB1 (although was happy to get Ingram). Probably should have let Fleener slide past me in the 9th, but idk, nice to have a potential high upside TE in reserve. Might even get into the flex spot. But overall, just a team of bog average picks for each position.

Huge props to the (auto) draft of Kyle Brindza (a free agent kicker) in the 8th round, with 2 further kickers in the 9th. And, obviously, the steal of the draft - Gary Barnidge with the 10th overall pick.

A, 8-6. Really pleased with this, went pretty much exactly as I hoped. Surprised Gurley fell to 9, and I've got big hopes for Miller this year so I'm pleased to have got him in one team. No Barnidge of course, but it was between him and Gurley, and I sadly bottled it.

So I was 15 minutes late and the first rounds had been and gone. Happy to get David Johnson - he would have been my first pick anyway, but didn't really want Rogers or Nelson, I don't like having NFC North players. So open to reasonable offers.

B, 7-7, 5th position. Could've been worse, but inadvertently autodrafting one QB, fatfingering the other, and dozing on TEs until they'd all but vanished is perhaps a lesson to focus more next year and not attempt to draft through a family bank holiday dinner...

I wish I could explain it away through my own idiocy, but I really have no idea how that happened. I clicked draft on Hopkins and Barnidge appeared. I guess it could have been worse (Tebow) but seriously, FFS.

Still fancy my chances against the guy who picked 6 WRs in 8 rounds though.

My mate is the one who drafted 6 WRs. He'd been reading articles about the 0RB draft strategy but hasn't realised that you still need some semblance of balance to your squad. I drafted with him live the night before and he did the same thing, obviously we were saying there was no way he would keep drafting WRs, just to see how many we could egg him into getting. Quite a lot is the answer.

Might cut Osweiler. There are possibly options I prefer out there. I'm fairly happy. You lot can all leave the RBs to me for your trendy 0 RB strategies. I'll go tried and tested with guys I expect to touch the ball a lot.

Lets me play the matchups without the hassle of being on the waiver wire each week.

Enjoy your twice weekly dose of Matt Jones fumbles and maybe you'll enjoy 3 nice weeks from DeAngelo before he becomes redundant. Duke might get some carries whenever the Browns are ahead in a game too. I much prefer my RB room to yours.

This was my first full autodraft where I couldn't get on to the site at all, but I think I did alright with setting my pre-draft rankings and positions. I need cover at RB (Jay Ajayi?!) and TE but Eifert will probably get solid game time, QBs should be good, and those are two potentially decent defences.

Can make a bit of a difference late season when injuries start piling up - although whenever I've plucked up the courage to stick in the TE who's been racking up TDs and receptions in my 1/2PPR league, he invariably has a stinker for 13 yards.

Other league is experimenting with return yards (1 pt/25), which I don't *think* will have as much impact as I thought it might, but still worth bearing in mind. Some teams never return, some always do, to the tune of a difference of over 1000 yards over the season

The site completely broke there. I was happy with my draft up to then but no idea who i got in the last rounds. I have a feeling the whole site was down as the other draft I was doing froze too. Luckily I was already done in that one.

B+ rated, 10-4, 2nd place
Boosted by first pick, loaded up with WRs and a top QB (attempted some kind of hybrid zero RB strategy). Risked it with weaker RBs and a lack of QB/Def/TE cover on the bench, but will try to waive smartly.

Didn't exactly go to plan after getting locked out. I didn't want to take a kicker that early and would've preferred to get another WR there. I would've settled for a weaker 2nd QB for better depth at RB/WR too. I can live with it though.

Still can't get used to the idea that elite WRs are more valuable than elite RBs. It goes against everything I thought I knew about FF so once AB went first I just couldn't bring myself to draft Julio or OBJ with the 2nd pick. I guess I'll come round to the idea when Gurley puts up a steady 8 points a game and those guys are catching TDs every week.

Yeah, pretty chuffed. Running backs should be great once Bell comes back- and assuming Zeke doesn't do a Trent Richardson. Good depth at QB. #Lockout wasn't too bad all things considered, managed to queue up Mike Thomas first, though j would have liked a back-up TE. Probably wouldn't have bothered with Alfred Morris or the Vikes D but they're not so bad.

What was up with the run on kickers being taken in Rounds 9 and 10? The fact that the consensus best kicker option, Stephen Gostkowski, was only the 5th kicker taken in that run just made it even more puzzling.

it's a 14 game season so you'll all play each other twice. Only difference is there will be good players up and down each team, and more on the waiver wire as free agents which you can pick up if one of your players gets hurt. In a 12 team league like the mighty DiS leagues, if your star running back goes down you weep loud and long and end up desperately scouring the Ravens depth chart through your tears.