nope....with winning.If we could put the puck behind the goalie in shootouts,win we might. Watch other teams do it or whichever team is in the shootout against us.

Sorry you don't agree that we suck at holding a lead and suck even more in shootouts.

1. Shootouts are a complete crapshoot. There is nothing scientific about the success rate of shootouts. Goalies are the ones in control of shootouts and penalty shots, and the shooters are at the mercy of the goalies. The Devils are very capable of winning shootouts.

2. Every team "sucks" at holding leads then. The number of leads the Devils blow is basically right there with the leads other teams blow.

1. Shootouts are a complete crapshoot. There is nothing scientific about the success rate of shootouts. Goalies are the ones in control of shootouts and penalty shots, and the shooters are at the mercy of the goalies. The Devils are very capable of winning shootouts.

2. Every team "sucks" at holding leads then. The number of leads the Devils blow is basically right there with the leads other teams blow.

capable yes....but more times then not don't.......those points make a huge difference in the standings,crapshoot or not.

1. Shootouts are a complete crapshoot. There is nothing scientific about the success rate of shootouts.

Which is my reason one why I wish they would be removed from the game. If they want to do 5 min 4 on 4 then 5 min 3 on 3 fine, but then call it a TIE already. There doesn't have to be a winner every game.

Which is my reason one why I wish they would be removed from the game. If they want to do 5 min 4 on 4 then 5 min 3 on 3 fine, but then call it a TIE already. There doesn't have to be a winner every game.

The current Devils are the ultimate proof that shootouts are NOT a crapshoot. It's results are clearly skill based. The debate is whether you think a players individual skill should decide the outcome of a game.

GL today Canada, I have to many potentially gloating swedes at my workplace.

Somebody really needs to tell Pierre McGuire that "selling out" is not a compliment. I only saw three of the Olympic games, but in that time I heard him describe players giving everything they've got as "selling out." It's not the only idiotic thing I've ever heard him say, but it might be the MOST idiotic.

Probably not, but who cares. I am sure he was a fine captain. These mythical leaders that people have in their heads that give 'Any Given Sunday' speeches don't exist.

You now who the US had on their roster? Captain of the LA Kings Dustin Brown. Captain of the New York Rangers Ryan Callahan. Captain of the St Louis Blues David Backes. Veteran alternate captains in Ryan Suter and Brooks Orpik.

Do you think any of these guys needed to be lead by Zach Parise? Not getting up for the bronze medal game is the fault of everyone, and if someone didn't think the team had the right mindset, any one of the vets could have stepped up and said something or done something about it. The same ones that people here probably think would be a better captain than Zach Parise.

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"The Stanley Cup has fallen from the Stars. The new millennium has its first Stanley Cup Champion, and it's the New Jersey Devils." Mike Miller calling the Devils winning the Stanley Cup.

"It goes to the captain and then there are handoffs during a skate around the ice" Mike Emrick as Scott Stevens is being presented the Stanley Cup.