Comments on: Pac-10 basketball: Thursday review and weekend pickshttp://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2010/02/18/pac-10-basketball-thursday-review-and-weekend-picks/
With Jon WilnerTue, 03 Mar 2015 19:39:00 +0000hourly1http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1By: Scotthttp://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2010/02/18/pac-10-basketball-thursday-review-and-weekend-picks/comment-page-1/#comment-33850
ScottSat, 20 Feb 2010 23:10:59 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/?p=12131#comment-33850Way to go Dawkins and the Card. Green and Fields have a great trip as usual but Trotter and Mann were the guys who elevated their games. Trotter 25 pts on the trip, Mann 14 pts and 10 assists on the trip and nails 2 free throws to seal the game.
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Papa JohnSat, 20 Feb 2010 00:29:44 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/?p=12131#comment-33841Scott: I hear what you’re saying, but I still think that if either Cal or ASU finishes 13-5, they are in the NCAA tournament regardless of what happens in the conference tournament. If they finish at 12-6 and at least share the title, they’re in. The committee is made up of humans, not computers, and there’s no way they don’t let in the regular season Pac-10 conference winner. Time will tell if I am right. Of course, if the regular season winner also wins the conference tournament, we’ll never know.

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mk92Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:57:43 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/?p=12131#comment-33831A 5-3 finish will not help ASU’s RPI much, if at all, because they simply aren’t playing any teams, other than Cal, with decent RPIs.
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KerrFri, 19 Feb 2010 18:53:48 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/?p=12131#comment-33830For all the talk about a one bid league, I’m surprised no one is talking about ASU. They don’t have any bad losses (unless UCLA completes the sweep and/or the lose at Stanford) and they beat UW back when the dogs were ranked. If they finish 3-2 (or better) and repeat last year’s run to the conference tournament final, they should be strongly considered even if they don’t win the regular season title. The RPI isn’t pretty (currently at 66), but a 5-3 finish (or better) should bump it up.

Interestingly, USC’s RPI is only 73 (even with two big wins over ranked teams). So even if they were eligible, the conference’s situation would only be improved marginally.

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ScottFri, 19 Feb 2010 18:46:05 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/?p=12131#comment-33829@Papa – You’re talking about 13-5 and 12-6 as if it were a normal Pac-10 year. Normally those records would earn you several wins over either ranked or RPI top 50 teams. Not this year. It all comes down to comparing teams in terms of who beat better teams, not just the appearance of a conference record. Unfortunately for Cal, their only chance to beat a top 50 team looks like if they played themselves.
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gscFri, 19 Feb 2010 18:34:00 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/?p=12131#comment-33828i don’t see what all the fuss about how good cal bball is. it is very simple: they live and die by the jump shot. doesn’t matter who they are playing.
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The Wisdom CowFri, 19 Feb 2010 16:29:27 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/?p=12131#comment-33827I posted this on SFgate:

I was all on board with the lack of effort, being outhustled argument for this game. I thought the refs were allowing body checking against the ball handler that would normally be a foul in hockey, but it was the same for both sides, so you can’t really complain (though Cal never figured out to body check back). Yet, when Thug-O-Plenty Burtan gave his second elbow high against MSF, hitting him right in the neck, I thought, “OK, now the refs will reel in OSU a bit, that was too much.” They even went to the replay to determine if the CLEARLY intentional elbow (raising the angle of his arm for the second consecutive time) deserved an intentional foul or an ejection. The result: a foul and a T on MSF. It put me over the edge. The refs didn’t take the game from us as we failed to adjust, but they deserve suspensions after letting Burtan get away with that crap.

Now, I have said it so many times and it kills me because the more I think about it, the more I think there is truth to it. Overconfident fans lead to overconfident players. So many of my fellow Cal fans have been writing as if the Pac 10 regular season was won when we had a 1 game lead and 3 road games to go (we never play well against this OSU squad and @ Stanfurd is always a challenge). I honestly think that if fans think it, the odds are that at least some players think it.

The reverse may not be true but I doubt we’ll ever know. If Cal wins @ UO, you can bet many a Cal fan will be trumpeting a championship. I mean, this has to carry over around campus and during home games, where the fans exude a vibe of arrogance when we should be trying to psych them up.

Players should be able to get themselve up and coaches certainly have a role in that regard, but I am getting sick of many (by no means all) of my fellow Cal fans who are worse than Trojan fans. At least arrogant trojans had winning football teams. We havn’t won jack in 50 years and some people strut like roosters with a precarious one game lead in the worst Pac 10, possibly ever.

I am suprised I didn’t blow an aneurysm last night.

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StanTheManFri, 19 Feb 2010 15:19:15 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/?p=12131#comment-33824If Stanford can get more balanced scoring like it did last night, and actually hit free throws, it can beat anyone in this unbelievably bad conference.

Wilner keeps talking about Stanford winning 3 or 4 in a row. I’d be happy if they won 2 in a row and got into the NIT. Given predictions at the beginning of this year, that would be a great result.

Meanwhile, once again the Monty Slide (TM) is showing up. The Weenies are melting down at the end of the season. Can’t wait for the season finale in Maples!

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Mr. BurnsFri, 19 Feb 2010 15:18:52 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/?p=12131#comment-33822There is no getting around Cal’s dismal performance last night, so nice shout-out by Wilner to OU football’s growing police blotter.
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Stanford High LifeFri, 19 Feb 2010 14:05:38 +0000http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/?p=12131#comment-33821Oregon State appears to be playing as well as anyone, BUT NO TEAM HAS BEEN ABLE TO HANDLE AND SUSTAIN SUCCESS THIS YEAR.