Forbidden Doughnut:fusillade762: thisiszombocom: why give a preview before a movie people are going to see anyways? why not add it before a crappy movie so people will but tickets for that one just to see the trailer

Quiet you! You'll give them ideas.

IIRC, that's already been done with Star Wars: Episode 1. Previews for that were shown before some forgettable movie starring Brad Pitt.

moothemagiccow:ds615: Star Trek 09 was a just a bad movie. Trek fan or not, comparing it to the show or not, it just plain sucked.Unless you're a drooling director fan boy anyway.

The Hobbit was a crappy book, and there's not a damn thing in it that would make a good movie.Unless you're a drooling director fan boy anyway.

So it's lose/lose or win/win depending on who you are.

I thought it was pretty good apart from Abrams mandatory "everyone has daddy issues" nonsense. That man needs therapy.

I can understand why trekkies didn't like it. There was too much action.

//wrath of khan was boring and goofy

The Daddy issues of Kirk and Spock made sense. Spock's always had issues with his father and in TNG his father died before they could be resolved. In Star Trek '09 they were forced to face their issues and move forward. Kirk's daddy issues was first being that his father wasn't there and then thanks to Pike, it became living up to the legend that his father became in the 10 minutes he spent in command of the Kelvin, which became his motivation while in the Academy.

As a life long Trek fan, I'll admit that Star Trek 09 is not the worst Trek movie (Star Treks 1 and 5 compete for that spot), but it's not the best (2, 6 and 8 compete for that spot), but it's better than 3, 9 and 10. The only part that I didn't like was the look of the Enterprise, and I'm just talking about the exterior look. Interiors, I loved the dirty looks of the Engineering sections and shiny white clean looks of the Bridge. In many ways, it's interiors were better than the TNG bridge and engineering sections.

Though, honestly, instead of a new movie, I'd rather see a new series. Star Trek does much much better as a tv series than as a movie series. And if they went with a tv series, I'd actually want two series. One series would be set a few years after the last episode of Voyager and Nemesis, maybe shortly after Spock's failed attempt to save Romulas. In short, in the STO era. The other series I would like to see set in the Abrams-verse. Let's explore that a bit.

I find myself completely disinterested in "The Hobbit" for some reason. I'm exactly meh about the whole thing. Same way about Star Trek, although I found the reboot/rework of the universe quite fascinating (to coin a phrase).