We were discussing the causes of
variegation in Hosta. Because Dr. Zonneveld had published at length on this
subject, his theories were discussed as to their validity. You had little to say
in the scientific part of the discussion. I was hoping the plagiarism thing
would not come up but it did.

The question is -----Do you
follow your own rules?

.....Bill Meyer

Jim Hawes
wrote:RE:>>In my opinion , it was not in very good taste.

And you feel your rants against Ben are? Interesting. All I'm
saying is why don't you fellas work this out in court and leave us out of
it? Seems like a reasonable approach to me.

I want to examine Hosta genetics without all of the political banter.
So, I've created a domain name for this, and will soon add some web pages and
a discussion forum where serious students of this issue can come and share
information. A friend of mine teachers genetics at Rutger's and
I hope to have he and others from ISU become involved in some
discussions. It's just me trying to be helpful but apparently I'm
mucking it up as I go along if I've managed to offend you. I know you
are a serious student of Hosta genetics, both at the microbiological level and
the hands-on knowledge level. The only reason I invoked the
power of "the Carolyn Schaffner approach" was because I want to discuss
Hosta genetics, not unrelated topics. This was to discourage hecklers.

This undertaking may not appeal to you anyhow because I hope to be
attracting those who are interested from the molecular biological point of
view of studying Hosta genetics. We're going to be talking about
some rather indepth stuff because I don't know that we can go a lot further in
our understanding of these phenomena without a closer examination of what is
really driving their occurance--from the inside out.

I regret if you felt isolated or defensive. I worked on that
"manuscript" (as Marvin Lemke likes to call them) for six hours trying to
eliminate all possibly offensive language. I just wanted to discourage
people from requesting a login name if all they want to do is post trivia or
fight. I don't have time to explain why understanding transposable
elements is more important to me than jokes, politics, or fights. There
are separate posting areas for this type of thing.

Maybe I need to lighten up and get a life but my mother-in-law is moving in
today. I've got a lot on my mind... :-) Tee Hee Hee....