I saw Marilu Henner on TV once being interviewed, and she said when she was a kid the nuns asked the kids to pick someone to pray for in Purgatory so they could get out quicker. She said she and a friend picked Curly from the Three Stooges. She said they were serious about it at the time—but it was pretty funny to hear her tell the story.

]]>By: Deehttp://de-conversion.com/2010/05/14/jehovahs-linguistic-land-grab/#comment-50035
Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:18:16 +0000http://de-conversion.com/?p=3660#comment-50035Yes , I stand corrected!
]]>By: caghttp://de-conversion.com/2010/05/14/jehovahs-linguistic-land-grab/#comment-50014
Fri, 24 Sep 2010 01:06:55 +0000http://de-conversion.com/?p=3660#comment-50014Dee #184 Is existence not a prerequisite for narcissism? God has a major issue with this requirement. Perhaps “god is the ultimate in fictional narcissists”?
]]>By: Deehttp://de-conversion.com/2010/05/14/jehovahs-linguistic-land-grab/#comment-49995
Wed, 22 Sep 2010 23:37:17 +0000http://de-conversion.com/?p=3660#comment-49995I just found your blog and find it fascinating! I have one thing to say, “God is the ultimate narcissist.”
]]>By: withheldhttp://de-conversion.com/2010/05/14/jehovahs-linguistic-land-grab/#comment-49032
Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:29:58 +0000http://de-conversion.com/?p=3660#comment-49032Ok, I was Catholic, and I never understood where Purgatory came from. You weren’t bad enough to go to Hell, but not good enough for Heaven, so we’ll throw you in the fire for a little purification. Your living relatives can help you get out faster by praying, receiving Eucharest and giving to the church. The Protestants reject the idea, because there is no clear scripture on it. Most of the justification is from the long (including pre-Christian) tradition of praying for the dead, with the commentary “why would they do this if it wouldn’t help?”
]]>By: Phil Stilwellhttp://de-conversion.com/2010/05/14/jehovahs-linguistic-land-grab/#comment-49026
Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:52:21 +0000http://de-conversion.com/?p=3660#comment-49026It’s nice that the catholic church recognized that the notion of hell was hemorrhaging what little coherency christianity had to offer, but the the ad hoc conjuring up of the “purgatory” band-aid was too little too late as it failed to address the absurdity that we are deemed worthy of hell-fire after a single offense by a “long-suffering” god.
]]>By: Ubi Dubiumhttp://de-conversion.com/2010/05/14/jehovahs-linguistic-land-grab/#comment-49019
Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:13:21 +0000http://de-conversion.com/?p=3660#comment-49019No, no, you got the quote wrong! It’s supposed to be: “plastics“.
]]>By: marcohttp://de-conversion.com/2010/05/14/jehovahs-linguistic-land-grab/#comment-49008
Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:26:59 +0000http://de-conversion.com/?p=3660#comment-49008This is ridiculous. Don’t be misled. One word: purgatory.
]]>By: Phil Stilwellhttp://de-conversion.com/2010/05/14/jehovahs-linguistic-land-grab/#comment-45794
Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:53:57 +0000http://de-conversion.com/?p=3660#comment-45794Frreal,

Now I understand. Sorry for not picking up on that.

Cheers.

]]>By: BigHousehttp://de-conversion.com/2010/05/14/jehovahs-linguistic-land-grab/#comment-45791
Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:54:31 +0000http://de-conversion.com/?p=3660#comment-45791If I may interject here, it looks like letjusticerolldown’s gripe with Phil’s argument is that it is but one proverbial tree in the Christian theological forest. He thinks it is too narrow of a focus and even if shown to be true and damning of Jehovah’s credibility, it would not outweigh the much broader larger and body of work attributed to Jehovah.

If I have this right, my question to letjusticerolldown would be: How do you know that you have accurately determined what’s important in the forest? How do you know Jesus is important at all? Because the Bible says so? Phil has already demonstrated that what the Bible says isn’t necessarily even coherent, let alone true.

Once you go down the path of ignoring parts of the Bible that you can’t explain or square with logic and reason, the entirety of the text is called into question,