I agree with Jack: nice sculptural space and composition with that one.
I like that first one, too, although I think a hint o' nipple on those seemingly-bare breasts are in order. The arm on the right probably had a hand resting on the book, too, but the way you've drawn it, without the hand, makes the arm appear pressed against her body, with the unseen hand slipped under the table... very naughty. It must be a good book.

5.

ahab

February 17, 2010, 11:52 AM

There you go **DRAWING** again. With smudges of double-salt hard licorice, the fourth is especially savoury.

You misunderstand me, Tim. And perhaps I was being too polite by apologizing in advance for what I was about to ask you. Let me try this more forthrightly:

Explain this:
"Hey Chris, be careful with Mia. She looks a little risky if you know what I mean. Oh, I forgot... That's the current fashion. Try to make yourself look like your mother didn't teach you a thing."

And it had better be good, because right now it's edging into "the written equivalent of behavior that would get you punched out in a bar".

A little on the rough side? What the hell does that even mean? Like she'd beat someone up?

The problem is you're saying a model I'm hiring looks "risky" and I should be careful. Careful of what? Risky? What the hell kind of a thing do you think I'm running? I couldn't come up with an interpretation of your remark that wasn't obnoxious and rude.

If you want every woman to look like some Southern belle whose mother taught her manners (like not speaking to the colored help) then don't look at links to models' pages, you dimwit.

Chris, I don't think about what kind of a thing you're running. Sorry you didn't get my humor. I think you're over-reacting. Anyway, as long as we're clearing the air, I don't get a lot of the more asinine stuff you put on here either, for example, from yesterday's thread or that tacky last line of today's #13. Most of it I just let go because I don't want to find out about certain things. So I suggest we call it a wash.

Chris, I love it when you write stuff like "If you want every woman to look like some Southern belle whose mother taught her manners (like not speaking to the colored help) then don't look at links to models' pages, you dimwit." and then call somebody else 'stupid.'

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opie

February 17, 2010, 6:09 PM

3 & 4 are the best. Do more of that "scrubbing" stroke you did on the garment of #3. I would also white out or erase either one of the two lines defining the right bicep on that drawing.

At the drawing session, one of the artists brought his collection of brush pens in various states of disrepair and running out of ink. It turns out if you can keep one of them perpetually starved you can get some lovely shading effects out of them. Kind of like what you have in #3 but more so.

19.

Lou

February 17, 2010, 6:37 PM

#4 looks to be nicely structured on a root phi and her expression offsets the balance with emotion.

20.

Franklin

February 17, 2010, 6:46 PM

Actually, Tim, I'm with Chris on this one. Your comment in #6 impugned the model's honor and Chris's integrity, and I don't blame him for responding in kind. Obviously you're pissy about having your Bronze Age politics challenged yesterday, but leave Chris's intentions, Mia's person, and my drawings out of it. Softballs and yarn, my ass.

You can get a broken line out of that Kuretake pen if you hold it at a sufficiently obtuse angle. But there's a cheaper version of the pen that I wouldn't mind starving or loading a wash into.

I don't know if I'd go all the way to "honor" and "integrity", Franklin, but thank you for the support.

I know you can get some shading if you angle the Kuretake sharply enough. What this guy managed was something even better, more subtle, and really fantastic. I should ask him to scan it in so you can see what I mean. I think he was using the cheaper brushpens.

Franklin: "Obviously you're pissy about having your Bronze Age politics challenged yesterday." That was as misguided and off the mark as I've seen from you. And you should know better; you wrote the book on pissy.

Let's just leave it alone, or contact me off of here about it if you want to.

23.

opie

February 17, 2010, 7:02 PM

With all due respect, Franklin, you are way over the line here, and so is Chris, once again. This political thing seems to be driving you guys overboard.

You are giving Tim motivations based on sincerely held and reasonabl;y expressed political opinions and it is not only completely unjustified to do this but a betrayal of your own clear guidelines.

An appropriate disagreement might be "she's a nice person and I don't like to see her put down by these comparisons".

These are the rules here, and you need to stick to them just like the rest of us, blog ownership or no blog ownership.

I honestly don't give a rat's ass what you or Tim think about politics. I'd just as soon get up in arms over your musical preferences. Beatles or Rolling Stones? I mean, seriously, who the fuck cares?

But Tim apparently decided to take out his still-simmering anger over yesterday's political argument in an unrelated and obnoxious comment about a model I'm hiring in a professional capacity. It was entirely uncalled for and unnecessary.

My antebellum South comment has nothing to do with his politics or anything he said yesterday. It has entirely to do with his comment to me about how the "risky" look is the "current fashion" with women. That, and that alone, is grounds for being called a paleoconservative.

And it has nothing at all to do with you, so you can butt the fuck out.