to me you are educated beyond your intelligence level. Still a gutter snipe and should be banned from the forum for making remarks like all nra members are kkk members,as well as republicans, you stated that the fbi did a great job, most fbi agents are nra members as well as private gun owners and a large percentage are republicans, so............. you want a big glass of shut the fuck up.

_________________A government Bureau is the closest thing to eternal life on earth that you will ever see

One would think that a person of your supposed intelligence would look at all sides of the equation and not just one silly link over and over again , which by the way , is without qualification since there are many other qualifiers that you don't seem to want to aknowledge , but have been posted for your pleasure .But you don't want to look at those aspects.A true tunnel visionary.

What are you really after ?

Responsible gun ownership or a total ban on any type of firearm ?

As stated many times in this gun control debate , the consensus is that it's not the object , but the person with the object. Something that many educated people adhere to. But then again , you were brought up to believe that people can't be bad , but they might be able to do bad things , right ?

Seems you were educated at the beginning of the dumbing down of people. I hate to say this but , I almost feel sorry for you.

Pedro this guy wants a total ban. He is all about stereotyping, and hyperbole. This guy is going to go off he is poisoning the forum, it's one thing to have an opinion but to accuse all of one political party to be members of the kkk, and Nazis is repugnant, ban this ass hole.

_________________A government Bureau is the closest thing to eternal life on earth that you will ever see

Once again, instead of presenting solutions to the problem, you guys hide behind the idea of making the argument against the arguers who don't take your sides of the debate.

Gun chumps are cowards who have to hide behind their weapons of choice. Muslem extremists and Right Wing extremists are no different frm each other. Both groups are terrorists driven by the same incapability to accept those who don't subscribe to their ignorance, and in their hatred they resort to acts of violence and threats.

Most of the non-Americans get it, as do most of the Americans here.

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It's called the NRA membership list and the FBI or CIA can look at it anytime they want. As I have posted , 60% of all guns used in crime can be traced to 1.2% of bad gun sellers. The gun crimes can also be tied to the states that also have the highest illegal gun ownership.

If making the laws stricter saves just one life, it's worth it. The facts are what they are....facts, and there's only one actual authentic set of them. The fairy tale tellers are the brainwashed enablers and apologists who refuse to accept he statistical data.

The National Rifle Association was successful in lobbying for the defeat of the Senate bill that woulld have expanded background checks on gun purchasers. But the organization lost a staunch supporter in the process. Adolphus Busch IV, a 38-year member and heir to the Busch family fortune, asked the NRA to remove him from its rolls, noting leadership called such checks "reasonable" in 1999 and saying the bulk of the group's members agree. "I am simply unable to comprehend how assault weapons and large capacity magazines have a role in your vision," Busch wrote to NRA president David Keene.

Way to go Adolphus! Good to see somebody coming to their senses and abandoning that wacko organization. The expedience in the capturing and killing of the Boston bomber terrorists and the ricin letter Right Wing nut case, on Obama's watch, pretty much seals the deal for the next couple of election cycles. The Republicans had a chance to save face and pass the gun bill and blew it. I guarantee that many of them are now regretting that decision and will be forced to own their no votes. Wayne LaPierre is a gift to the Obama administration and the Democrats.

You ever notice how the assholes who don't have a legitimate argument and/or excuse, who when proven wrong, like clockwork, always refuse to accept the reality and/or facts and will inevitably try to turn debates and/or discussions into something about the people who prove them wrong?

Denver police told KDVR.com that one of the suspects is believed to be a black male, about 6 feet tall and weighing about 180 pounds. He was reportedly wearing a gray hooded sweatshirt, black pants, and a Carolina baseball hat.The second suspect was described by police as a black male who was wearing a black and white-checkered shirt, the station reported.

Who do you think are the demographic majority of gun pro-gun lawyers, lobbyists and members of national gun groups, businessmen and polititians who create the environment that leads to criminal behavior in states with higher gun related death rates?

Don't bother aswering that obvious question, because you'll just make another excuse.

The "only criminals commit crimes" argument is a losing one, because more often than not, the people who commit most gun crimes become nly criminals because they have guns. To reduce the debate to a bumper sticker slogan is typical.

You ever notice how the assholes who don't have a legitimate argument and/or excuse, who when proven wrong, like clockwork, always refuse to accept the reality and/or facts and will inevitably try to turn debates and/or discussions into something about the people who prove them wrong?

One More.Time.For.The.World....says the guy who claimed Ron Paul was going to get 10 million almost votes in the primaries, when in fact, he wasn't even almost close, and that Ayn Rands crappy book was the highest selling book of all almost time, when in fact, it isn't listed on any of the lists of highest selling books, also not even almost close...

You ever notice how the assholes who don't have a legitimate argument and/or excuse, who when proven wrong, like clockwork, always refuse to accept the reality and/or facts and will inevitably try to turn debates and/or discussions into something about the people who prove them wrong?

Like this?.......

SPACEBROTHER wrote:

Prince sucks ass. Anybody who would admit to paying money to see and write a review out him on a Frank Zappa forum, of all places, is a poser and probably jacks off to his picture of Brett Michaels that he keeps under his pillow at night.

Did it ever occur to you that if you really knew what you were talking about you wouldn't have to peddle your expertise on a Frank Zappa forum?

Whatever the truth is, it's got nothing to do with right and wrong or good or bad. It's just there.

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