Money is being collected for the creation of a monument to include bronze statues of Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, and Chelsea (Bradley) Manning, along with an empty chair symbolic of the wish for another champion of truth to emerge.http://rt.com/news/202631-snowden-as...ning-monument/

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Money is being collected for the creation of a monument to include bronze statues of Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, and Chelsea (Bradley) Manning, along with an empty chair symbolic of the wish for another champion of truth to emerge.http://rt.com/news/202631-snowden-as...ning-monument/

Betraying your country is a act of "courage" now?

I will never understand the West... We Russians kill our traitors, usually in a slow, torturous manner, like Litvinenko
and you Americans... what? Revere them???

Betraying your country is a act of "courage" now?
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and you Americans... what? Revere them???

I think, perhaps, the West is less likely to equate betraying the government with betraying the country (or "the people"). Manning and Snowden would argue that, in letting the people know what the government was secretly doing to them, they were serving their country.

Well Assange isn't American, but he's kind of a shit head so kind of fuck him.

Manning and Snowden both provided a great service to our country. They just did it at cross purposes with the government. That's not treason.

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Originally Posted by dilettante

I think, perhaps, the West is less likely to equate betraying the government with betraying the country (or "the people"). Manning and Snowden would argue that, in letting the people know what the government was secretly doing to them, they were serving their country.

I suppose... That is not the sort of logic one routinely encounters over here