A case could be made that he cost his team the game with a poor decision leading to a safety and a botched pitch. That is why I was quite surprised to see QBR reward Kaepernick with an 82.4 score Sunday.

So our qb barely got a marginally higher QBR than a quarterback that gave, singlehandedly, 9 points to the other team.

A case could be made that he cost his team the game with a poor decision leading to a safety and a botched pitch. That is why I was quite surprised to see QBR reward Kaepernick with an 82.4 score Sunday.

So our qb barely got a marginally higher QBR than a quarterback that gave, singlehandedly, 9 points to the other team.

bwahh, Harbaugh has quite the debacle on his hands at this point, pull Kapp and put alex in he was wrong all along, Kapp loses against Miami and he's a loser..

heres my take, Kapp failed under pressure, (takes his eyes off the back just before he pitches the ball looking for the hit) but he definitely has the better arm, can the niners use an arm like that? sure if the receivers buck up and stop dropping those fast balls, I think its clear with a certain amount of pressure you can get Kapp to release early and throw fast balls, forcing receivers to drop balls and miss routes, like they did

hawksfan515 wrote:But yeah, QBR has it's chinks in it's armor. I like it better than passer rating though.

I disagree. QB rating does have flaws, but those flaws are quibble worthy. At least with passer rating, you get a pretty accurate picture of whether a QB was good or bad. QBR's flaws make me think it's worthless. It's capable of saying a terrible performance was actually a great performance and vice versa. And their "clutch factor" is just silly. Scoring points in garbage time when down by 30 is one thing, but a score that takes your team from a 10 point lead to a 17 point lead is still huge in my book, and should not be discounted. Failing to build a big lead can cost you the game some times.

If you want a perfect stat, ANYA is pretty close. DVOA is solid (for a play tracking stat) as well. I think those stats match the eyeball test the best.

minormillikin wrote:85.4 is a really,really good "QBR" rating. The max possible is 100. It's setup so that 50 is supposed to be average.

He's not referring to Wilson's last game, but talking about instances where QBR has been hilariously off the mark this season. Regarding Wilson, his QBR for the season was just league average until the last two weeks. It's currently at around 60 or so.

Hasselbeck wrote:I've never been a big fan of QB rating.. the ESPN version or the regular. For this precise reason. Andrew Luck's rating for example is 76.1. Christian Ponder's is 79.4 ..

Alex Smith's rating is 104. Russell Wilson's is 95.

Who are you building a team around now? Not Christian Ponder. Not Alex Smith.

Good points. Though really, I think what you are getting at underscores the impossibility of stats painting a consistently perfect picture in a team sport like football.

That said, Andrew Luck deserves his 76.1 rating. He's on pace for over 20 interceptions this season (and a ton of fumbles as well). Throwing over an interception per game is a great way for a QB to kill his value. In fairness to Luck, he's been winning games anyway.