Sunday, April 24, 2016

End of the Sworn Affidavit?

Amends the Uniform Peace Officers' Disciplinary Act.. Provides that a sworn affidavit or other legal documentation is not required to file a complaint against a peace officer (currently, a sworn affidavit is required). Removes a provision referring unsupported complaints containing false material information to the State's Attorney. Effective January 1, 2017.

So no sworn affidavit, a completely sane provision that cut down on false accusations by magnitudes.

And no referral of False Complaints to the State's Attorney for prosecution under the perjury laws.

The usual cast of police hating Chicago democrats are writers, sponsors and co-sponsors.

If it passes, any scumbag can level any accusation against you and IPRA will be investigating it, and when they "Not Sustain" a few, you'll be placed into the Personal Concerns program anyway and you'll have to do counseling, see a shrink, answer all sorts of questions because of the "red flags" put in place to dissuade you from doing anything proactive.

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Anonymous said...

If they thought that the Police Department was becoming "fetal", they haven't seen anything yet.this will cause any copper with a brain to put it in neutral. They are telling the criminal element it is ok to lie on the police and don't worry about it because we won't let you be prosecuted for lying. Are the inmates running the asylum or what ?Yes they are , as long as they can vote for the Democrats. I worry about the fate of this country.

As I mentioned a few times here... my wifes is related to one of the assholes who is passing this. she is also related to an alderman, and another top guy everyone knows. but in the end the guy in question was an asshole before, and is a scumbag now. prick took advantage of his relatives to get where he is. feel free to do political work for him, and get nowhere guys

I'll go to my car start of shift and drive and then find a nice place to park and then I'll make sure what's in front of me stays crime free till the end of my tour. I'll then drive back to the lot and leave to go home. I'll save the city tons of money on gas. We all win.

As the noose tightens around the neck of the police, a foot rest on the chair ready to kick it out from beneath the police. This the second shoe ready to drop. Blanket bias investigations and now no protection. Just when you believe that SJWs can't do anything more to demoralize the police and push them even further into a cocoon, the SJWs strip away legal procedural protections that the average citizen would enjoy.

This is getting ridiculous! What provision, if any, is being made for the expungement of false filings? Penalties for false filings? What is to prevent gangbangers from targeting effective officers? ......

I am one of the ones out there still working. Save the lecture. As someone who was put in the behavioral program years ago for unfounded and not sustained cr s I can promise everyone in the ghetto this will stop any of the guys out there still being proactive for good. So if you live in one of those areas call yor senator and demand they vote no. Or don't and suffer the consequences.

My non-LEO opinion: The false material information provision is just filler waiting to be "bargained away" in exchange for keeping the affidavit non-requirement intact. Classic scumbag personal injury lawyer tactic - come in with an unreasonable two-part settlement demand but later drop one part and suddenly look more "reasonable". These politicians are low-lifes and are determined to interfere with law enforcement every which way they can.

If this occurs than two things are going to happen. The first thing that occurs is a great amount of complaints are going to be issued. The second thing is IPRA or the next agency will be over run with complaints. As it is now IPRA can't keep up with the amount of complaints that they receive now with the amount of man power thats assigned. That's one of the reasons why complaints take so long. Throw out the the affidavits then they will not be able to investigate all the complainant that are issued. Rumor has it that moral at IPRA is just as low as in the Department. Many of the Investigators are upset that their cases are being reexamined. The investigators are fearful that they will be terminated on cases that they classified as justified or not sustained. Watch tiny dancer to use old cases, such as the one where the two Officers used a take down on a robbery offender to use as a excuse to disband IPRA for a different agency to investigate Misconduct. What most Officers don't understand is IPRA is governed by a very lengthy city ordinance. The mayor's hands are tied to a certain extent. If he disbands IPRA the city ordinance governing Investigations of Police Misconduct also becomes voided. He then can write a ordinance that is easier to discipline PO for infractions. Another rumor: The new Chief Administrator/ corporation counsel wants to impose a quota on sustained cases. One more nightmare: wait until the new States Attorney is sworn in. The best advice is to stay fetal. If you have not by now you should in the next coming months.

This is just another necessary step to bring about the glorious Revolution! Society must be broken down if we are ever going to have a Revolution.And destroying the trust and effectiveness of the police is necessary to destroy society.

You guys are screwed even worse now.I come from a time before sworn affidavits and it was bad then.I can't imagine what it will be like under current hate conditions.Thank God I am done and gone(escaped to warmer climes)

No, we still have MANY morons on this job that haven't gotten the message yet. Their skulls must be 8 inches thick. I don't think some of them will ever get the message until they're sitting in a jail cell.

Who actually are the sponsors of these anti law enforcement laws? Can anyone name the names and find their sponsors? Just who the fuck is running this fucked up state? Our elected representatives are supporting these thugs who are going against their own people! It's just shameful! What a fucked up mess!! Our tax dollars paying for it too...... Maybe the state legislature needs a justice department probe? These mutts working their gangster tactics to get these bills passed wearing body cameras? How about some complaints to the Feds about them?

FOP general Meeting 19 Apr 16FTO Kevin C Jans 024 Unit ReppPresident Angelo informed members. That those politicians that work against our well being and Union leaders that speak out against the CPD WILL NOT GET OUR SUPPORT DURING ELECTIONS or Union activities. They paint us as racist because of our activity. When it is pointed out that the top ten Wards for Murders, Narcotic Arrests and Gun Seizures are in wards where minorities are the majority population, the media and others ignore the facts. President Angelo called on CTU President Karen Lewis to renounce the words spoken by Page May (f**k the police, etc.) which Ms. May, a private school teacher, made from the podium at the last CTU public event. Unfortunately Ms. Lewis did not denounce Ms. May's statements. The FOP will no longer support CTU Union efforts to promote CTU efforts. At the last CTU Union meeting, police family members and supports were not allowed to bring in pro police signs! Speakers that supported the police were booed and shouted down during their turns at the mike!

As provided by our contract with the City, since 1981, CR files older than five years are to be destroyed. The City has failed to do so and now some politicians are trying to pass a law that would prevent the destruction of old records. The Union has called for the City to follow our agreement. The Lodge will take note of the supporters of any detrimental laws passed down in Springfield

IPRA has told several officers that they are stripped of their police powers. IPRA does NOT have the authority to strip police officers of their police powers. Furthermore IPRA has no State CERTIFIED lead homicide investigators, so by Illinois law they cannot take over any police shooting that involves a death. IPRA regularly violates our contract and the law! The Lodge is aware of eight officers that have been strip of there police powers so far. If you have been stripped or informed of any contact, appointment as a witness or any interview/interrogation by any agency or lawyer, contact the Lodge immediately! Don't go without a lawyer with you! The Lodge has already started a class action grievance for the eight stripped officers. IPRA is going over 400+ police shootings from the last eight years where the assailant was killed by the police.

This job takes it tool on all of us, some more than others. Please call the employee assistance program to help out when needed 24/7/365 at (312) 743-0378. God bless you all

Synopsis As IntroducedAmends the Illinois Public Labor Relations Act. Provides that provisions in collective bargaining agreements which limit the ability of a public employer to investigate the conduct of an employee of the public employer or which prohibits the public entity from revealing the name of an employee who was involved in a shooting of a person to be against public policy and unenforceable. Amends the Uniform Peace Officers' Disciplinary Act. Provides that a complaint against a sworn peace officer may be based upon information and belief, and may be supported by a sworn affidavit (currently, must have a sworn affidavit). Further provides that nothing in the Section bars an interrogation when supervisory or command personnel have determined that an investigation and interrogation are warranted. Effective immediately.

I know of gangs that used the complaint system to slow down officers that were damaging their gang. This stopped when the affidavit was introduced and they were furious about it. Furious enough to reach out to a dirty politician? Absolutely. I also think people underestimate the influence of cartel drug money in this city and state.

Anonymous Anonymous said...As a Sgt. I will have the complainant hand write their statements when we meet. Better than an affidavit.

4/24/2016 01:23:00 AM

Hmmmm...

Very much liking the way you think, Sarge...But it will be for naught because the powersthat be will take aim at YOU for some jack-pot"Failure to Act/Inattention to Duty" for not transcribing the complainant's statementonto the complaint formset.

You'll be seen as subverting "the process" with yourattempt to keep things at least on the square.

They can't have their constituency appear incompetentin the relentless pursuit of "Justice" against The Police.

It is called reeducation. It is a method used by leftists and communists to redirect a groups thoughts and actions. Sometimes group members have to go live in a reeducation camp for a number of months just to get their heads straightened out.

As a graduate of the Personal Concerns program years ago I can attest to its effectivness. I went in as a hard charger and exited as a fetal employee. When I was questioned by supervisorsas to my obvious lack of production following my graduation from PCU I simply told them that I hadbeen Skinnerized (B F Skinner, pioneer in behavior modification theory). If you are working fetal stay fetal. If not, learn fetality and avoid the pitfalls of proactive policing. It's noworth losing your job over.

1:23am As a sgt I will make the complainant do a written statement....

That's all fine and good, but it won't prevent the main problem of you having to take the complaint without having to meet the accuser at all.

My brothers and sisters, always check the arbitration box. After a few years and numerous losses in arbitration the city will be losing so much money they will adjust. The losing side has to pay the arbitrator. This city and state continue to sign into law stuff that does not jive with federal labor law. They will lose constantly.

but in the end the guy in question was an asshole before, and is a scumbag now. prick took advantage of his relatives to get where he is. feel free to do political work for him, and get nowhere guys

4/24/2016 12:17:00 AM

So you knew your relative was a scumbag...and you worked to get him elected? Now you are bitching because you didn't get your payback? You are a class A douchebag.

As far as the affidavits go, they were useless anyway. Name one person arrested and charged with the felony it should have been. I gift wrapped one early in the process and presented it to the Department. I was told they would never prosecute them and warned not to do that again. I am a bomb thrower, but I have a family to support. I am not suicidal. Lesson learned.

end of sworn affidavit = return to hundreds of hours of work....but they can promote more Lts to read Sgts investigations and promote more Sgts to do investigations and hire more POs to keep the workforce strong....simple right?

This is just another shot fired at the police by politicians pandering to the "community." And the saddest part lies in the fact that people will continue to go to the polls like automatons to vote Democratic.

Even in full fetal mode we are likely to pick up false complaints for showing up to our jobs and doing everything properly. We need to start sueing every time someone levels false accusations on us. Both individually and collectively.

Just when you think this place can not get more ridiculous, BOOM! They need us more than we need them and it will be a while before they realize it. You can't continue to fuck us sideways and think we will do for this city what we once did. At this point, it has nothing to do with pride or stubbornness but I worked my ass off for my home and for everything I have. No way in hell am I going to jeopardize it.

I think all of this is done for the long term plan of dismantling our good paying jobs and to ultimately privatize the police forces in our country. They used the same tactics against the teachers. If you think that our jobs too can't be privatized then you are fooling yourself.

I feel a Blue Flu coming let see how the city will handle this epidemic? Tired of being shit on we need do something about it, we need to stand up or we will not have any rights what so ever and will be tried in a kangaroo court by self righteous reverends and welfare recipient Stay Fetal

Instead of flooding SCC with your complaints you should be flooding the emails and voice mail of the FOP. They need to get the state and national Lodge involved. I'm not a FOP member so save the ignorant sarcastic blah blah blah comments and CONTACT YOUR UNION!

As far as the affidavits go, they were useless anyway. Name one person arrested and charged with the felony it should have been. I gift wrapped one early in the process and presented it to the Department. I was told they would never prosecute them and warned not to do that again. I am a bomb thrower, but I have a family to support. I am not suicidal. Lesson learned.

This is the world we live in.

4/24/2016 10:12:00 AM

The point is, many asinine complaints were averted because the 'complainant' refused to go out on a limb and sign them and identify themselves.

Los Angeles had the affidavit as a city ordinance. The city council struck it, an iliana rozensweig led the la ipra forward with some success. She was hired to run ipra here, and discovered the chicago affidavit was part of the fop contract, and could not be stricken by law. With the affidavit in place, she was a miserable failure, and had to quit. Her career in ruins, she went to Europe to study art. That is what the affidavit, protected by our contract, did. This is an attempt to deny the police officer a constitutional right that every citizen has.the next thing will be to pass a law denying constitutional protection to our earned pension rights. Gone with the stroke of a pen.

On another note, I am asking every worker to never say the word "pension" again. Say "EARNED" in front of it. "EARNED pension", "EARNED pension rights", etc.

Lastly, if it gets to the point that the FOP cannot protect our constitutional rights, we have a problem. We would be better off giving our dues money to a private law firm and fight in a federal court.

This is great for the Police.This one action will stop the drip drip effect on all of you and move right to the flood.With this being removed 90% of CPD will be put on desk duty will being investigated for some bullshit made up charges and the city will really see what happens when they allow the benchwarmers to dictate the rules to the starters! You all should hope they allow the anonymous phone tip in there also to quicken where this is all going.

Go and file a report on the investigators and complain about head of IPRA and let's say alderman that "drive recklessly". If it looks like them and they catch beef and the complaint is wrong, oops. My bad. No penalty though- we can just freely accuse with impunity! Let's get the ball rolling.

Amazing. There will not be one good Officer without some type of complaint against him on his record. Are all the attacks on the P.D. by the political machine an effort to get Officers to leave in some way so that no pension will have to be paid to them?Nothing else makes sense. Its got to be the money. Is turning the violent minorities loose on the general population with no police control an option elected officials are really considering? Do democrat officials believe minority criminals will not attack them because they're democrats?

Attacking those that stand between you and criminal violence is madness. Stay safe Officers, I don't know how, but stay safe.

nonymous said...Leadership Leadership Leadership..... Do we have any left in the Department anymore. My team was sent to 007 today. We know what to expect, All the 007 district supervisors all over the radio every minute of every day!!! It's a contest I believe between: 760, 762, 700x, 799 and 720 on who can talk on the radio more. They make huge mountain's out of molehills!! But today takes the cake... Ready... 760, eastbound down the gangway!!!! Dispatcher repeats. 760 (out of breath) southbound in the alley. Dispatcher repeats. 760 I'm Chasing... A..... Brown dog. Dispatcher: A what? 760: We just shot multiple rounds at a brown dog. I can't catch him. Dispatcher: Ok 760: I'm chasing him on foot since I shot out one of the tires on my squad car. Dispatcher: you did what? 760: repeats last statement. This went on and on and on. 762 (out of breath) Dispatcher: 762 go ahead. 762: Squad this dog is being totally uncooperative at this time. My partner almost crash the squad car as he drove at this point laughing so hard. 760... Dispatcher (kinda of laughing at this point) 760 go ahead. 760 I need crime scene tape out here for my squad car and let's get the street blocked off!! You get the point, this went on and on and on and on. All these young new copper in this district and these are their leaders. And these type of leaders go all the way up to the top. As long as we have "leaders" like these guys, nothing constructive will change on the department.

This should be its own thread. Cause they did same think 2 weeks ago with a fake SVIP. No problem with taking all procautions til you verify its real - But even after they realized it was a bogus call - all of them couldn't wait to chime in on the radio. One of them was still setting up a mobilization point long after the other one said it was bogus. Then the Sgt still calling for an ambulance to stage after the call was bogus. Instead of trying to hear yourself talk - listen to the radio retards.

Need to find a lawyer to sue these assholes for making a false accusation, slandering the name and reputation of the officer within his/her workplace and in the public venue. Even if these mutts have nothing, the mere chance they later win the ghetto lottery will pay off for a cop with a lien on the assholes.

Good for you Sarge. Years ago as a Sgt I backed my guys and took serious heat from the black community but most of all from TH the worst and most racist superintendent CPD ever had. Well the brick was very heavy and TH and his IAD friends came after me for everything and anything. Finally they thought they had me with a CR# that had accusations that I did things even though I had documentation and witnesses I was out of town at the time. Well fast forward to present days and I'm happily retired with 75% of Sgts pay and you know I have respect for myself and the respect of the people I worked with. The CR# was brought up against me as I retired and it felt good to know that I was in the KMA club and beat them all. I will outlive TH and I keep the bond money available at all times because when that piece of shit dies I will visit his grave and it won't be to put flowers on it. Stay safe Sarge and watch your back.

Blogger Tombstone courage said...Los Angeles had the affidavit as a city ordinance. The city council struck it, an iliana rozensweig led the la ipra forward with some success. She was hired to run ipra here, and discovered the chicago affidavit was part of the fop contract, and could not be stricken by law. With the affidavit in place, she was a miserable failure, and had to quit. Her career in ruins, she went to Europe to study art. That is what the affidavit, protected by our contract, did. This is an attempt to deny the police officer a constitutional right that every citizen has.the next thing will be to pass a law denying constitutional protection to our earned pension rights. Gone with the stroke of a pen.

On another note, I am asking every worker to never say the word "pension" again. Say "EARNED" in front of it. "EARNED pension", "EARNED pension rights", etc.

Lastly, if it gets to the point that the FOP cannot protect our constitutional rights, we have a problem. We would be better off giving our dues money to a private law firm and fight in a federal court.

4/24/2016 05:52:00 PM -----------------------

the only reason why a judge has not allowed cities in Illinois to remove the fact that the police get a pension, pretty much is because they know they will sign away their own pension when they do it... but it is coming, you will see

Boy the bad news continues. Used to be the drug dealing gangsters used to just have to pick up a phone and they could bring heat on cops who were fucking with their boys. Then they came out with the affidavit system and at least made them leave the hood to come up with their bullshit. Now its back to the same old ways only this time they hold a ton of power over the Police cause ANY CR will be counted and the officer profiled and fucked with. Right or wrong.

Ive concluded that all this Rahm fucker cares about is holding power so his mob can cash him which will allow him to one day cash himself out. To do do he knows he has to cater to a community not only not very bright but also convinced by years of propaganda they have been "wrong" by the PoPo. Its not as tho they count the bodies shot, or wonder who is doing the shooting. They are convinced its all the fault of the "Devils" and if you fuck the Poleeece all will be right with the world.

This is exactly why Donahue and his crew had the sworn affidavit provisions made a part of our contract. Even if the state law is changed, our contract protects us.

Great job, Deano. You fire Donahue as our lobbyist in Springfield, you kick him off of the legislative committee, and kick him off of the political action committee. Great moves. We would have been aware of any movement in this direction months ago if you would have left him in place.

The FOP hasn't submitted,proposed, or challenged any legislation for the past two years. Great job boys! I'm sure Rahm and Rauner are thrilled that you knocked Dougherty and his team out of the box.

Anonymous Anonymous said...I know of gangs that used the complaint system to slow down officers that were damaging their gang. This stopped when the affidavit was introduced and they were furious about it. Furious enough to reach out to a dirty politician? Absolutely. I also think people underestimate the influence of cartel drug money in this city and state.4/24/2016 07:36:00 AM

The cartels are absolutely 100% behind this. People are too stupid to figure this out on their own.

The Black caucus has deep roots in Chicago's street gangs. Add to that the Chicago Alderman in these gangster areas. THEY have to stand up and let the gang leader have their chair when they meet. They cant do shit without the gangs ok. Thats how it works. So No! I wouldnt be surprised if the Gangsters were behind this.

Anonymous said...This is exactly why Donahue and his crew had the sworn affidavit provisions made a part of our contract. Even if the state law is changed, our contract protects us. This statement is false

Great job, Deano. You fire Donahue as our lobbyist in Springfield, you kick him off of the legislative committee, and kick him off of the political action committee. Great moves. We would have been aware of any movement in this direction months ago if you would have left him in place. Where was Markie Mark when the quota bill was passed without Chicago in it? He was in Springfield. He billed lodge 7 for expenses?

4/25/2016 10:27:00 AM

Is that you 9.5? Not Rahm. That's Mark's nickname. It's his hat size.

Mark:

Where's my COLA?

Where were you with the quota bill?

Why did you sign-in in support for the bill to cut benefits for other city unions? A mistake or did you do this on a regular basis and you just got caught this time?

Why do they call you the puppet master? Because Dougherty, Aguilar, DiMaria, and Davis only did what you told them to do?

I didn't need to be a dic to see what you were all about. In dic's class all we ever saw you do was work crossword puzzles. You made sure we knew that you were clouted. Where's all those good jobs you got promised by entering into phony arbitrations with the city? No honor among thieves?