This is probably repeating elements of several other threads but no one appears to have put it strongly enough yet.

80% of us want a change of manager but the owners are not hearing us.They appear not to follow the results and in any case when Reading lose a game it’s just another poor performance on the day.

However, protests and boycotts do tend to get more coverage as they signal that things are exceptionally bad.

Therefore if you are happy with the management of your club at the moment please ignore this.

If however, like me you are infuriated with the “get someone else” attitude of Stam and his inability to see what he is doing to OUR club - not his - then you must do something direct.

Complain all you like but that won’t on its own change this situation.

So I suggest that you either:Boycott the Derby game altogether orIf you attend wear something Green - an anti-Orange protest, if you like, or Green for GO!And direct the boos directly at the manager ( not the players) as it’s his system that is at fault.

Let’s be honest, it’s a certain home defeat anyway but at least if the fans register a shot at the board of the Club we will have done something constructive.

Forest Gump This is probably repeating elements of several other threads but no one appears to have put it strongly enough yet.

80% of us want a change of manager but the owners are not hearing us.They appear not to follow the results and in any case when Reading lose a game it’s just another poor performance on the day.

However, protests and boycotts do tend to get more coverage as they signal that things are exceptionally bad.

Therefore if you are happy with the management of your club at the moment please ignore this.

If however, like me you are infuriated with the “get someone else” attitude of Stam and his inability to see what he is doing to OUR club - not his - then you must do something direct.

Complain all you like but that won’t on its own change this situation.

So I suggest that you either:Boycott the Derby game altogether orIf you attend wear something Green - an anti-Orange protest, if you like, or Green for GO!And direct the boos directly at the manager ( not the players) as it’s his system that is at fault.

Let’s be honest, it’s a certain home defeat anyway but at least if the fans register a shot at the board of the Club we will have done something constructive.

I'll not be able to boycott the Derby game as I've promised my soon to be father in law I'll take him.

Would be interested in another pants day though or similar. Bit uncomfortable at the sectarian nature of a 'wear green to get out orange' day but if that's direction it takes I could change my mind.

Make sure you have a commitment that he will still pay his share of the wedding even though you have wasted several hours of his life.

I think he'd quite enjoy the spectacle of a club in freefall particularly as an impartial observer (he's a villa fan) and also the ritual of the match day (pub, ground, pub) as he doesn't get to go to VP any more living in Cardiff.

Forest Gump This is probably repeating elements of several other threads but no one appears to have put it strongly enough yet.

80% of us want a change of manager but the owners are not hearing us.They appear not to follow the results and in any case when Reading lose a game it’s just another poor performance on the day.

However, protests and boycotts do tend to get more coverage as they signal that things are exceptionally bad.

Therefore if you are happy with the management of your club at the moment please ignore this.

If however, like me you are infuriated with the “get someone else” attitude of Stam and his inability to see what he is doing to OUR club - not his - then you must do something direct.

Complain all you like but that won’t on its own change this situation.

So I suggest that you either:Boycott the Derby game altogether orIf you attend wear something Green - an anti-Orange protest, if you like, or Green for GO!And direct the boos directly at the manager ( not the players) as it’s his system that is at fault.

Let’s be honest, it’s a certain home defeat anyway but at least if the fans register a shot at the board of the Club we will have done something constructive.

Pants day the return...

Pants day 2 would definitely be my preferred option, should we not see developments in the next 48 hours.

I'll not be able to boycott the Derby game as I've promised my soon to be father in law I'll take him.

Would be interested in another pants day though or similar. Bit uncomfortable at the sectarian nature of a 'wear green to get out orange' day but if that's direction it takes I could change my mind.

Make sure you have a commitment that he will still pay his share of the wedding even though you have wasted several hours of his life.

I think he'd quite enjoy the spectacle of a club in freefall particularly as an impartial observer (he's a villa fan) and also the ritual of the match day (pub, ground, pub) as he doesn't get to go to VP any more living in Cardiff.

Could I just suggest that if you wanted to boycott a game the Derby one (24th Feb) would be a perfect choice as I believe it clashes with the FA Vase quarterfinals and Bracknell Town, Thatcham Town and Windsor will all be playing - so would be a great alternative to get out and watch football as it's meant to be seen (and probably stand a chance of being entertained as well).

I see the problem as being today`s fanbase are far more tolerant than in years gone by. after the 2nd goal a few of us were on our feet trying to get a STAM OUT chant going. everyone just sits there in silence, and a few boos at the end..big deal.

I reserve protests for the real shit and people who have been consistently poor with no history of success for us, personally.

I won't chant 'Stam out', 'sacked in the morning' or wave around pants because I don't think he deserves it. So far he's had an excellent season beyond all expectations and most of a pretty poor one. But currently we're not really a lot worse off than the two seasons prior to him taking over, but with a better squad for recovering.

It just strikes me as ungrateful. He's performed badly enough to be sacked but I have no ill will towards him. If he goes it'll be 'thanks for your efforts and the good times' from me and 'lets get on with it and back the team and new guy'

I don't think thrre really needs to be much pressure from the fans. The general malaise on the pitch is pretty clear and results and performances speak for themselves.

Snowflake Royal I reserve protests for the real shit and people who have been consistently poor with no history of success for us, personally.

I won't chant 'Stam out', 'sacked in the morning' or wave around pants because I don't think he deserves it. So far he's had an excellent season beyond all expectations and most of a pretty poor one. But currently we're not really a lot worse off than the two seasons prior to him taking over, but with a better squad for recovering.

It just strikes me as ungrateful. He's performed badly enough to be sacked but I have no ill will towards him. If he goes it'll be 'thanks for your efforts and the good times' from me and 'lets get on with it and back the team and new guy'

I don't think thrre really needs to be much pressure from the fans. The general malaise on the pitch is pretty clear and results and performances speak for themselves.

Great post.

Can I just reiterate we aren’t going down. Things could be a lot worse and would need to be before I start throwing pants around a football stadium or wearing a green t shirt

Sutekh Could I just suggest that if you wanted to boycott a game the Derby one (24th Feb) would be a perfect choice as I believe it clashes with the FA Vase quarterfinals and Bracknell Town, Thatcham Town and Windsor will all be playing - so would be a great alternative to get out and watch football as it's meant to be seen (and probably stand a chance of being entertained as well).

Pants day was never about getting anybody removed, it was a peaceful offbeat way of letting the club know that we, the supporters had, had enough of being crap If a protest is about Stam out it should be something different. Something Dutch perhaps, edam well ought to go after all

I do think we need a change of manager but ask yourself why is the home form so bad? Maybe because of the way the fans are reacting, its embarrassing booing your own player and when the away fans take the piss out of the home fans booing etc.

I go to more away games than home and our fans are the least supportive in the league by a country mile.

And before you say they are professionals etc etc look at our away form.

2 defeats in 10; enough said.

So yes, please boycott - I'd rather we had a Burton sized crowd of fans who supported the team.