Is San Jose more talented than us?

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Guest blueadams

I know it's not perfect, but I was trying to be as objective as possible here, so the 'winners' of comparisions - as well as the order of rankings - were all determined by regular season point production.

At first glance...it appears as if San Jose's lone advantage is forwards #3-#7 (Niemi's got a slight advantage over Howard, but that's close enough to not matter).

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Howard is having a much better playoffs right now than Niemi, stats wise. Wings need to raise that GAA.

Yeah, Niemi hasn't been spectacular. The Wings have only gotten a few good shots that San Jose's defense have cleared. Howard, on the other hand, has had two amazing games and a really good first round.

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This isn't the NBA. You can't win on talent alone. We've seen the Wings lose plenty of times to teams we were more talented than at pretty much every position. Why can't we do the same thing to someone else?

Will beats skill in hockey, and SJ is not that much more talented than us for the Wings to lose this series regardless of that fact.

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Guest blueadams

This isn't the NBA. You can't win on talent alone. We've seen the Wings lose plenty of times to teams we were more talented than at pretty much every position. Why can't we do the same thing to someone else?

Will beats skill in hockey, and SJ is not that much more talented than us for the Wings to lose this series regardless of that fact.

We're just too lazy.

good point, on this, and for the guy comparing by salaries.

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It shouldn't be based on points or salary. It should be based on the most obvious determination of where a player falls in his team's structure. Even strength average ice time. Otherwise you're comparing Ed Jovanovski and his $6.5m salary as Phoenix's top defenseman, when in reality he is their #6.

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It shouldn't be based on points or salary. It should be based on the most obvious determination of where a player falls in his team's structure. Even strength average ice time. Otherwise you're comparing Ed Jovanovski and his $6.5m salary as Phoenix's top defenseman, when in reality he is their #6.

Are you saying Hudler is our 13th forward and Ericsson our top defenseman?

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sharks are cheapest team in the nhl at the moment. wings has always been having problem playing against cheap teams.

What does this mean? I think not payroll. You mean cheap-shots I suppose. There is a little bit of that with the ice washes aimed at Howard I suppose, but otherwise I don't see a case where "cheap" play is costing the wings the series.

The Wings have trouble playing SJ and staying out of the penalty box - I agree there is alot of bulls*** involved in this, but have to admit it is not the reason the wings lose games to SJ in the end.

IMO the teams are fairly evenly talented - obviously - and play a similar style. Wings blew home ice the last few weeks of the season, and have trouble matching up with SJ - such are the draws and perils in the POs. Will be interesting to see what happens in the 2 games at the Joe.

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You literally said that the Sharks are the cheapest team in the NHL, though.

That's some pretty huge hyperbole when you're pointing out stuff that the Wings do as well (diving).

It's not all black and white either. All teams have guys that dive but only a chosen few teams have perfected it. You gotta know just when to grab your face and just when to quiver your lip. Tears never hurt.

Edited May 4, 2011 by Broken 16

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It's not all black and white either. All teams have guys that dive but only a chosen few teams have perfected it. You gotta know just when to grab your face and just when to quiver your lip. Tears never hurt.

Oh I know. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy in saying that Pavelski and Setoguchi dive and that makes them the cheapest team in the NHL.

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