Determine whether he curve ha a tangent at the indicated point. If it does, give its slope. If not, explain why not?f(x)=\left\{\begin{array}{rr}x&\ 2-2x-x^2{if }x\ge0\\-x&\2x-2{if } x > 0\end{array}\right. there is the messed up LaTex if anyone could/will/may :) etc, answer this. thank you! The above is at x= 0. The second inequality is supposed to have an > or = sign.
Ah.

I circled the point which I think they are talking about for the tangent.
If there isn't one, figuring out the slope will be messy. However its done.

Thanks!

Oct 11th 2007, 06:38 PM

Jhevon

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Originally Posted by Truthbetold

Determine whether he curve ha a tangent at the indicated point. If it does, give its slope. If not, explain why not?f(x)=\left\{\begin{array}{rr}x&\ 2-2x-x^2{if }x\ge0\\-x&\2x-2{if } x > 0\end{array}\right. there is the messed up LaTex if anyone could/will/may :) etc, answer this. thank you! The above is at x= 0. The second inequality is supposed to have an > or = sign.
Ah.

I circled the point which I think they are talking about for the tangent.
If there isn't one, figuring out the slope will be messy. However its done.

Thanks!

we have a cusp (sharp turn) at the indicated point. a function is not differentiable at its cusp. well, i think this is a cusp, it's definitely a sharp turn though

you can show that the derivative limit does not exist for that point

Oct 11th 2007, 06:48 PM

Truthbetold

So no tangent at sharp turn, got it.

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you can show that the derivative limit does not exist for that point

How do you do that?

Since I have to find the slope, how do I find the slope?

Edit to the graph, the second blue dot goes to -33, not -100.

Slope formula is
lim (f(a + h) - f(a))/h
h-> 0

I believe this to be for the poitns (0, 2) and (5,-35), but I don't know.
The teacher didn't have much time to teach today.

Oct 11th 2007, 07:17 PM

Jhevon

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Originally Posted by Truthbetold

So no tangent at sharp turn, got it.
How do you do that?

Since I have to find the slope, how do I find the slope?

Edit to the graph, the second blue dot goes to -33, not -100.

Slope formula is
lim (f(a + h) - f(a))/h
h-> 0

I believe this to be for the poitns (0, 2) and (5,-35), but I don't know.
The teacher didn't have much time to teach today.

it is better to use this formula here, i think. it is an equivalent formula.

$\displaystyle f'(a) = \lim_{x \to a} \frac {f(x) - f(a)}{x - a}$

now, we are concerned with what happens when x approaches 0. but we have a piece wise function such that x approaches 0 in different ways form the left and the right. thus we must find the left and right hand limits of the derivative limit.

you will notice that these limits are not equal, thus the derivative $\displaystyle f'(0) = \lim_{x \to 0}\frac {f(x) - f(0)}{x - 0}$ does not exist

Oct 11th 2007, 07:21 PM

Jhevon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthbetold

Determine whether he curve ha a tangent at the indicated point. If it does, give its slope. If not, explain why not?f(x)=\left\{\begin{array}{rr}x&\ 2-2x-x^2{if }x\ge0\\-x&\2x-2{if } x > 0\end{array}\right. there is the messed up LaTex if anyone could/will/may :) etc, answer this. thank you! The above is at x= 0. The second inequality is supposed to have an > or = sign.
Ah.

I couldn't get it. :( The LaTEx, I mean.
Here it is in math:f(x)= 2-2x-x^2, x < 0piecewise 2x+ 2, x > or = 0.