<quoted text>I saw it,and what you say is true,if god exists he would be felt in your heart from day one,you would not have to be told he exists,you would know it like you would know the pain of a bee sting.but we have to told and taught he exists,again another problem i have with the theory.

That explains why I believed there was a God since I was 3.Jethro, It's a choice we must make to accept, or reject Him .

Answer:“Jesus saves” is a popular slogan on bumper stickers, signs at athletic events, and even banners being pulled across the sky by small airplanes. Sadly, few who see the phrase “Jesus saves” truly and fully understand what it means. There is a tremendous amount of power and truth packed into those two words.

Jesus saves, but who is Jesus? Most people understand that Jesus was a man who lived in Israel approximately 2000 years ago. Virtually every religion in the world views Jesus as a good teacher and/or a prophet. And while those things are most definitely true of Jesus, they do not capture who Jesus truly is, nor do they explain how or why Jesus saves. Jesus is God in human form (John 1:1, 14). Jesus is God, come to Earth, as a true human being (1 John 4:2). God became a human being in the person of Jesus in order to save us. That brings up the next question: why do we need to be saved?

Jesus saves, but why do we need to be saved? The Bible declares that every human being who has ever lived has sinned (Ecclesiastes 7:20; Romans 3:23). To sin is to do something, whether in thought, word, or deed, that contradicts God’s perfect and holy character. Because of our sin, we all deserve judgment from God (John 3:18, 36). God is perfectly just, so He cannot allow sin and evil to go unpunished. Since God is infinite and eternal, and since all sin is ultimately against God (Psalm 51:4), only an infinite and eternal punishment is sufficient. Eternal death is the only just punishment for sin. That is why we need to be saved.

Jesus saves, but how does He save? Because we have sinned against an infinite God, either a finite person (us) must pay for our sins for an infinite amount of time, or an infinite Person (Jesus) must pay for our sins one time. There is no other option. Jesus saves us by dying in our place. In the person of Jesus Christ, God sacrificed Himself on our behalf, paying the infinite and eternal penalty only He could pay (2 Corinthians 5:21; 1 John 2:2). Jesus took the punishment that we deserve in order to save us from a horrible eternal destiny, the just consequence of our sin. Because of His great love for us, Jesus laid down His life (John 15:13), paying the penalty that we had earned, but could not pay. Jesus was then resurrected, demonstrating that His death was indeed sufficient to pay the penalty for our sins (1 Corinthians 15).

Jesus saves, but who does He save? Jesus saves all who will receive His gift of salvation. Jesus saves all those who fully trust in His sacrifice alone as the payment for sin (John 3:16; Acts 16:31). While Jesus’ sacrifice was perfectly sufficient to pay for the sins of all humanity, Jesus only saves those who personally receive His most precious of gifts (John 1:12).

If you now understand what it means that Jesus saves, and you want to trust in Him as your personal Savior, make sure you understand and believe the following, and as an act of faith, communicate the following to God.“God, I know that I am a sinner, and I know that because of my sin I deserve to be eternally separated from you. Even though I do not deserve it, thank you for loving me and providing the sacrifice for my sins through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that Jesus died for my sins and I trust in Him alone to save me. From this point forward, help me to live my life for you instead of for sin. Help me to live the rest of my life in gratitude for the wonderful salvation you have provided. Thank you, Jesus, for saving me!”

SOUTH AMERICA AND AFRICA,that is where the church is growing,under-educated people who do not know the history of the whole church except what the Catholics in the regions are telling them,lets take Africa for instance most of the people there probably do not know the church believed in black slavery,if they did do you think they'd join such a church? "maybe" out of the false hope the church teaches.is the church supplying them with food and shelter? or clothing? probably not,but you can bet the collection plate is going around.Same thing in Latin america,they are taking advantage of the lack of a good proper education,i highly doubt the 30 cardinals from there are going to tell them the whole truth about the church,they'll put hopes into their hearts and minds and take their money for doing so and that's about it.in most south american countries,children are left abandoned in the streets by their mothers and fathers, and if found they are shot by police and the military,how come the catholic church with all it's riches are not taking care of these kids? same goes for other churches that are in these countries?simple question "why are they ignoring this problem?" i know it's true because i have worked with people from these countries and saw first hand kids being shot at and killed,that is the reason they left the country,because of this and this pope is under scrutiny himself for not speaking up like he should be,what is he afraid of? he belongs to gods church,god will protect him.he is now the vicar of Christ,now he can go back to his homeland and do something about protecting these poor kids,he has nothing to fear god is by his side. lets see what happens in the next few years,my guess "NOTHING".

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"truth' I don't know what country you are from.

From your posts it sounds like you have lived through some terrible times and saw a lot of bad stuff.Yet through it all you held onto your faith in God.I think that is truly remarkable.:)No one can explain the evil men do to each other.God however will have His plan come to pass.God Bless.

SOUTH AMERICA AND AFRICA,that is where the church is growing,under-educated people who do not know the history of the whole church except what the Catholics in the regions are telling them,lets take Africa for instance most of the people there probably do not know the church believed in black slavery,if they did do you think they'd join such a church? "maybe" out of the false hope the church teaches.is the church supplying them with food and shelter? or clothing? probably not,but you can bet the collection plate is going around.Same thing in Latin america,they are taking advantage of the lack of a good proper education,i highly doubt the 30 cardinals from there are going to tell them the whole truth about the church,they'll put hopes into their hearts and minds and take their money for doing so and that's about it.in most south american countries,children are left abandoned in the streets by their mothers and fathers, and if found they are shot by police and the military,how come the catholic church with all it's riches are not taking care of these kids? same goes for other churches that are in these countries?simple question "why are they ignoring this problem?" i know it's true because i have worked with people from these countries and saw first hand kids being shot at and killed,that is the reason they left the country,because of this and this pope is under scrutiny himself for not speaking up like he should be,what is he afraid of? he belongs to gods church,god will protect him.he is now the vicar of Christ,now he can go back to his homeland and do something about protecting these poor kids,he has nothing to fear god is by his side. lets see what happens in the next few years,my guess "NOTHING".

You make a good point here Jethro, the catholic church it self is under scrutiny. Stories are carried back to places like Africa from people who visit the states and Canada.We had a Christian's from Africa sing at our Church they were wonderful. The Catholic Church does not have the power it use to over people Jethro, bad stories always get around, its the good stuff like Jesus saves that is least heard of.

In the state of Alabama, Catholicism has grown overall from 3% of the population to 6% of the population in just the 8 years between 2000-2008 (FROM HISPANIC IMMAGRATION). It is indeed rapidly growing in the Bible Belt. That said, Catholicism is staying at about 25% of the population overall nationwide. Many Americans are leaving the Catholic faith, but right now, they are being equally replaced by Hispanics immigrating into the country. According to the recent Pew Report, about 10% of all Americans are former Catholics, and about 2.5%(about 6-7 million people) are converts to Catholicism....jethro the catholic growth is spurred by people from Latin america,under-educated and working minimum wage jobs because that's all they can do,of course they are not all like that,there are many who i know myself are here getting an education,but still there is your growth "HOJO" in the church,once they learn the truth about the church,they'll leave if they educate themselves and want to protect their children.

TO HOJO:The banners hanging in the main corridor of St. Joseph’s Seminary in Yonkers declare,“Through Faith We Grow.” The class portraits that line that very same corridor tell the opposite tale. Half a century after the halcyon days when several hundred men at a time studied to be ordained as priests for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York, only 22 are enrolled.Even more alarming to Catholics, although six men expect to be ordained in May, none are entering the first-year theology program. While seminary officials attribute the sudden drop to extra preparatory course requirements that went into effect this year, it is nonetheless a jarring development.There will be flashy videos, with quick cuts, stirring sound tracks and fearless priests on New York streets. Goody bags will include glossy post cards of the pontiff emblazoned with the word “Willkommen!”— and the Web address nypriest.com , the seminary’s recruiting site. In coming weeks, the archdiocese will send its schools posters that announce,“The World Needs Heroes,” including one of black-suited priests crossing an intersection — looking like “Going My Way” meets “Reservoir Dogs.”JETHRO:YUP YOUR CHURCH IS DOING FANTASTICALLY well, FROM 700 TO 22 ENROLLMENTS IS THAT PART OF THE PERCENTAGE growth YOU STATED OR IS THIS THE PART YOU CLOSED YOUR EYES TO?

<quoted text>Before I came to Topix, I was pro-reunion. I now believe that we stay separate, but respect each others faith. I also hope that both churches would stop declaring that they are the "True Church" and just walk humbly trying, despite many faults, to be forgiven and walk with Christ.

Amen Herme, Amen I almost shouted with joy when I read your post.It is just that simple Herme.love you Brother.

660<quoted text>Greek is not necessarily Greek!!!!The definition of the Greek word from which "wish" was translated us: by implication, to pray to God:--pray, will, wish.If you apply "pray to God", that still is no guarantee...for Divine reasons, God does not always give us what we pray for...Since "wish" is also a definition of the Greek word from which wish was translated, this definition is also applicable: A desire, longing, or strong inclination for a specific thing.A desire, longing, or strong inclination, is no guarantee....

~~~Are you sure that you name is not "WET BLANKET"..

I BELIEVE GOD CAN DO ANY THING..AFTER ALL HE IS GOD...

THE BIBLE IS CHUCK FULL OF EVENTS ...THAT those such as you ...would have kept from taking place/happening if you could have. RIGHT?

THE BIBLE SAYS

Rom_1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written,-->The just shall live by faith.

Gal_3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for,-->The just shall live by faith.

Heb_10:38 -->Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.

---Psa 91:14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.

Psa 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

Psa 91:16 -->With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.

~~~

You would destroy my faith if you could, would you not?...

The Bibles says..

Act_13:8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them,

seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.

Mat_17:17 Then Jesus answered and said,--> O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.

Mar_9:19 He answereth him, and saith,--> O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.

Luk_9:41 And Jesus answering said,--> O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you, and suffer you? Bring thy son hither.

One of the things which is so difficult to come to terms with is the reality that when we bear anger and resentment and bitterness in our hearts, we erect barriers to God's grace within ourselves. It's not that God stops giving us His grace. It's that we say, "No. I don't want it". What is His grace? It is His love, His mercy, His compassionOn an even deeper level, this spiritual principle--do not react--teaches us that we need to learn not to react to thoughts. One of the fundamental aspects of this is inner watchfulness. Our watchfulness does not need to be focused on our thoughts. Our watchfulness needs to be focused on GodAfter all, if somebody says something nasty to us, how are we reacting? We react first through our thinking, our thoughts. Perhaps we're habitually accustomed to just lashing out after taking offense with some kind of nasty response of our own. But keeping watch over our minds so that we maintain that living communion with God leaves no room for distracting thoughts.

Wow Herme God just keeps blessing me this morning through you wonderful post.

<quoted text>~~~Are you sure that you name is not "WET BLANKET"..I BELIEVE GOD CAN DO ANY THING..AFTER ALL HE IS GOD...THE BIBLE IS CHUCK FULL OF EVENTS ...THAT those such as you ...would have kept from taking place/happening if you could have. RIGHT?THE BIBLE SAYSRom_1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written,-->The just shall live by faith.Gal_3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for,-->The just shall live by faith.Heb_10:38 -->Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.---Psa 91:14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.Psa 91:15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.Psa 91:16 -->With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.~~~You would destroy my faith if you could, would you not?...The Bibles says..Act_13:8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them,seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.Mat_17:17 Then Jesus answered and said,--> O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him hither to me.Mar_9:19 He answereth him, and saith,--> O faithless generation, how long shall I be with you? how long shall I suffer you? bring him unto me.Luk_9:41 And Jesus answering said,--> O faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you, and suffer you? Bring thy son hither.

~~~

Jesus said..

Mar 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.

Mar 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.

In the state of Alabama, Catholicism has grown overall from 3% of the population to 6% of the population in just the 8 years between 2000-2008 (FROM HISPANIC IMMAGRATION). It is indeed rapidly growing in the Bible Belt. That said, Catholicism is staying at about 25% of the population overall nationwide. Many Americans are leaving the Catholic faith, but right now, they are being equally replaced by Hispanics immigrating into the country. According to the recent Pew Report, about 10% of all Americans are former Catholics, and about 2.5%(about 6-7 million people) are converts to Catholicism....jethro the catholic growth is spurred by people from Latin america,under-educated and working minimum wage jobs because that's all they can do,of course they are not all like that,there are many who i know myself are here getting an education,but still there is your growth "HOJO" in the church,once they learn the truth about the church,they'll leave if they educate themselves and want to protect their children.

"once they learn the truth about the Church, they will leave"

What truth? How Pagan Rome established Sunday as the Lords day to coincide with sun god worship??

God help anyone who pulls souls away from the Church using that 'truth'.

<quoted text>Matthew 16:19 shows the kind of authority Jesus gave Peter. Whatever decisions he makes within the Church, Heaven will recognize as valid.Acts 20:7 Shows the Apostles 'gathering on Sunday to break bread. This is also called the Holy Mass.As I showed yesterday, the Apostolic fathers clearly show Sunday the day being the Lords day.Your assertion that Pagan Rome changed it to be the Sun god worship day is a lie. Sunday is from the authority of the Apostles.Do you acknowledge your error?

Clay, do some simple research.

How does it put the RCC in a favorable light when you keep spouting wishful opinion that is factually incorrect.

FACT -- until the Emperor mandated Sunday as the Holy Day, for the first three centuries, different Christian sects held services on different days, either Saturday or Sunday.

Try thinking for once.....

If they all met on Sunday, why did the Emperor need to issue a decree to have them agree on a single day?

<quoted text>~~~Jesus said..Mar 11:22 And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God.Mar 11:23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.NOTEMar 11:24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

~~~

WHERE DO YOU ABIDE...RESIDE..take up residence?

DO YOU ABIDE IN DARKNESS?

Joh_12:46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

DO YOU ABIDE IN THE VINE?

Joh_15:4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

Joh_15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

MOTE THE BLESSING OF ABIDING IN CHRIST JESUS..

Joh_15:7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

THE PURPOSE OF JESUS COMING...TO EARTH.

Isa 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me

to preach good tidings unto the meek;

he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted,

to proclaim liberty to the captives, and

the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

Isa 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and

the day of vengeance of our God;

to comfort all that mourn;

Isa 61:3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion,

to give unto them beauty for ashes,

the oil of joy for mourning,

the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness;

that they might be called trees of righteousness,

the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.

---

Psa 1:3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water,

that bringeth forth his fruit in his season;

his leaf also shall not wither; and

whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

Isa_57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Jas 4:6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

Jas 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

<quoted text>Like I said before---"Heretics, false teachers, and now "editorialist church historians, "have come and gone" for over 2000 years---YET----the One True Apostolic Catholic Church. formed, initiated and authenticated by Jesus Christ HIMSELF--------LIVES ON!!!-and will CONTINUE TO LIVE ON!!----In-so-far as your comment. "people are walking away from organized religion"---(you are half-right) People ARE walking away from organized "Protestant" religion and (by the thousands) converting to the TRUTH of Jesus Christ (IN AND THROUGH) His One True Catholic Church..........growing 1.5% every years, while every Protestant denominationb (including bible only religions, are ALL declining!!!

This is what is called a delusion by psychologists.

Generally harmless, this can develop into something more serious.

But somehow I doubt if this one believes enough to become a eunuch. He probably just spends a little money on holy trinkets. Harmless.

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