Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?

Dinosaurs.

Quoting: Livingood

....Hey, you might be on to something really scientific, like this guy

Quoting: DGN

So the species of T-Rex that was covered in chick feathers... NVM I am done with this thread, I cant even get through the first page without feeling very sorry for our people. You think like a child, I really hope you give yourself the opportunity to view things with clear eyes and an open heart rather then force biases upon yourself.

Read the texts, do the studying, then we can talk... until then this is plain childish. These evolution threads are literally a joke. I laugh at them, OUT LOUD.

Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?

Does it really make a difference how it all began. Why doesn't anyone give a shit about what we are doing right now. I mean, what are we doing? where are we going? Is this what life is all about, a stupid game of I'm right, no I'm right. Maybe we all really don't know anything.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15670285

How it all began includes the answer of who will intercept man's total destruction of the earth by nuclear winter;"We thank you, Jehovah God, the Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and begun ruling as king. 18 But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time for the dead to be judged, and to give [their] reward to your slaves the prophets and to the holy ones and to those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” Rv11:17

Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?

Dinosaurs.

Quoting: Livingood

....Hey, you might be on to something really scientific, like this guy

Quoting: DGN

So the species of T-Rex that was covered in chick feathers... NVM I am done with this thread, I cant even get through the first page without feeling very sorry for our people. You think like a child, I really hope you give yourself the opportunity to view things with clear eyes and an open heart rather then force biases upon yourself.

Read the texts, do the studying, then we can talk... until then this is plain childish. These evolution threads are literally a joke. I laugh at them, OUT LOUD.

Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?

>peacocks lol

You think all peacocks look like that all the time?

OP, have you ever even seen a peacock? Most of the time they just look like birds.

They use their tails to attract mates and to scare off smaller predators.

THIS IS ALL BASIC SCIENTIFIC KNOWLEDGE. IF YOU MADE IT THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL AND YOU MISSED THIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TELL YOU.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4230558

Right but my questions is not why they have big fancy tails, it's at point in time did a peacock, working in his molecular research lab write out the genetic formula to construct the tail? I believe it was divinely designed into the first peacock and genetically passed on to them all.

Sure is. QUOTE; "But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers." How did peacocks manage this, in their imaginary R&D labs, where they conceived the formula for constructing feathers which they transmitted to and rewrote their own DNA? What's a peacock's IQ?

Sure is. QUOTE; "But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers." How did peacocks manage this, in their imaginary R&D labs, where they conceived the formula for constructing feathers which they transmitted to and rewrote their own DNA? What's a peacock's IQ?

Quoting: DGN

As I said in your other thread, you don't appear to have a grasp of the basic concept of my theory of evolution, I suggest you take a look at my books if you'd like an explanation of how it works. It's pointless to explain the nuances of it when you clearly don't even understand the general idea of it.

Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?

Eyespot markings serve as an anti-predatory device by either scaring off potential predators or confusing them to deflect attacks away from vital body parts.

Many peacocks have survived attacks, because the predator pounced on the peacock's train rather than the peacock itself.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26697328

That may explain why it has the feathers. My question is how could a peacock think of that and rewrite it's it's own dna to create it?

Quoting: DGN

The peacoks with more fabulous and more believable feathers survived attacks to reproduce while those that didn't either died or were found to be unfit by females.As the ones with bigger feathers reproduce, their children had similarly sized feathers while others may have grown even longer feathers.They soon found themselves in a cold war of feathers.

Sure is. QUOTE; "But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers." How did peacocks manage this, in their imaginary R&D labs, where they conceived the formula for constructing feathers which they transmitted to and rewrote their own DNA? What's a peacock's IQ?

Quoting: DGN

As I said in your other thread, you don't appear to have a grasp of the basic concept of my theory of evolution, I suggest you take a look at my books if you'd like an explanation of how it works. It's pointless to explain the nuances of it when you clearly don't even understand the general idea of it.

Quoting: CharlesDarwin

Theoretically mutation results in up graded sophistication? You're right I don't get that at all. From observation improvement of anything requires knowledge/ intelligence/intention/application, not random glitches;

Sure is. QUOTE; "But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers." How did peacocks manage this, in their imaginary R&D labs, where they conceived the formula for constructing feathers which they transmitted to and rewrote their own DNA? What's a peacock's IQ?

Quoting: DGN

He's right DGN, you do not seem to understand the basic concepts of evolution. Which is why I reccommend you stop debating the topic until you do.Animals do not rewrite their DNA, every time a cell or animal reproduces there is a chance for random genetic mutations. Most of the time these mutations are harmless, however some of the mutations actually give the animal an advantage.In this case, there may have been a mutation in one of the pre-peacocks long ago, that had their feather growing genes mutate to accomadate much larger feathers.These feathers allowed it to remain camoflauged when around certain vegatation/terrain. It also made the bird look bigger than it really was, warding off would-be predators.These advantages would have led to a higher chance of survival, and thus higher chance of reproducing. While those that idn't have the genes would not have been aas sucessful.

Sure is. QUOTE; "But peacocks evolved their elaborate feathers." How did peacocks manage this, in their imaginary R&D labs, where they conceived the formula for constructing feathers which they transmitted to and rewrote their own DNA? What's a peacock's IQ?

Quoting: DGN

He's right DGN, you do not seem to understand the basic concepts of evolution. Which is why I reccommend you stop debating the topic until you do.Animals do not rewrite their DNA, every time a cell or animal reproduces there is a chance for random genetic mutations. Most of the time these mutations are harmless, however some of the mutations actually give the animal an advantage.In this case, there may have been a mutation in one of the pre-peacocks long ago, that had their feather growing genes mutate to accomadate much larger feathers.These feathers allowed it to remain camoflauged when around certain vegatation/terrain. It also made the bird look bigger than it really was, warding off would-be predators.These advantages would have led to a higher chance of survival, and thus higher chance of reproducing. While those that idn't have the genes would not have been aas sucessful.

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22705145

Jehovah created peacocks beautiful feathers for the same reason he created flowers and butterflies, to decorate his earth.QUOTE: "Animals do not rewrite their DNA", that's right, Jehovah alone has that level of scientific expertise as he's demonstrated throughout the entire ecosystem.

Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?

*sigh* The basic concept is that there are mutations that happen, the ones which increase the survivability of an organism are more likely to be passed onto the next generation, the ones that lower survivability are less likely to be propagated and thus end up being less common or eliminated from the gene pool. There is no choosing it any more than you choose which genes you pass onto your children.

I find the video you posted in response interesting, so you think there is an intelligent being who decided that cancer was something we were missing? Who decided the world just wouldn't be complete without malaria? Not that an idea being comforting makes it more likely to be true, but I find it strange that you would choose to believe in such a malicious entity in spite of explanations which have much more evidence.

Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?

*sigh* The basic concept is that there are mutations that happen, the ones which increase the survivability of an organism are more likely to be passed onto the next generation, the ones that lower survivability are less likely to be propagated and thus end up being less common or eliminated from the gene pool. There is no choosing it any more than you choose which genes you pass onto your children.

I find the video you posted in response interesting, so you think there is an intelligent being who decided that cancer was something we were missing? Who decided the world just wouldn't be complete without malaria? Not that an idea being comforting makes it more likely to be true, but I find it strange that you would choose to believe in such a malicious entity in spite of explanations which have much more evidence.

Quoting: CharlesDarwin

According to your 'scientific' insight is this the result of the random wreckage of mutating glitches, or intelligence beyond your comprehension?

Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?

*sigh* The basic concept is that there are mutations that happen, the ones which increase the survivability of an organism are more likely to be passed onto the next generation, the ones that lower survivability are less likely to be propagated and thus end up being less common or eliminated from the gene pool. There is no choosing it any more than you choose which genes you pass onto your children.

I find the video you posted in response interesting, so you think there is an intelligent being who decided that cancer was something we were missing? Who decided the world just wouldn't be complete without malaria? Not that an idea being comforting makes it more likely to be true, but I find it strange that you would choose to believe in such a malicious entity in spite of explanations which have much more evidence.

Quoting: CharlesDarwin

According to your 'scientific' insight is this the result of the random wreckage of mutating glitches, or intelligence beyond your comprehension?

Re: Survival of the fittest? Did the evolution thingy NON-intelligently create the peacocks feathers so it could hide in the bushes Mr Darwin?

"Survival of the fittest" is often misinterpreted as "Survival of the strongest" (especially from non english speakers who think "fit" means "fitness").

But it comes from "to fit" like "suited". Therefore "Survival of the fittest" means that those will survive who fit best into a changed environment. And in many cases in Earths history that were not the strongest, often it were the weaker and defensive ones who fitted best.