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Hats aren't allowed at our school either, and they will be taken away if worn but returned at the end of the day to the student. That teacher is really unfair and mean. Putting aside the fact that she bought it with her money, to take it away and refuse to give it back is kind of against the Constitution. Although this isn't searching, there's a thing called reasonable cause. For example, specific suspicious activity. Your friend had not done anything suspicious so there should be no reason.

I would put more here but it seems I don't have a lot of time to spend on the forums.

my friend said she's going to have her mom call the school to ask them about it. she tried having her other friend get the hat from the office at the end of the day, but that didn't work out. my friend can't exactly leave to go to the office at the end of the day because she'll be too late to her bus. she is here pretty early in the morning, so hopefully that means she'll get it back on tuesday when we go back from break.

I think it is unfair. The teacher should have followed the school system and returned your friend's hat at the end of the day. Instead, the teacher abused her authority and decided not to return the hat, which is unfair.

I also have similar teachers like this in school. I have one teacher that randomly scolds students when she has nothing better to do.

First off, if you've known the teacher for a long time and know about his/her background, you'll understand why he/she has that kind of attitude. (I have a teacher similar to that, very strict, annoying but we later realize she was treated poorly by her teacher when she was young. Anyways...)

Knowing the background of the teacher, it is fair if your friend was repeatedly asked to remove her cap off during school hours. Whether she likes it or not. She has to follow school policies, doing it once, twice can be tolerated but if she was asked repeatedly within a short period of time, it cannot be tolerated. School isn't all about teaching Mathematics and Sciences, they also want to teach you discipline (which is VERY IMPORTANT when you arrive to the real world.)

On the other hand, the teacher has to follow protocols that the school made. He/She can't go whilly-nilly all over to discipline students.

If your friend wants to get her cap back, it's best to talk to the principal about the issue. The two will talk about it and find what was the problem and solve it. Otherwise, your friend's parents can schedule a conference with the principal about the matter.

so my best friend got her hat taken away today. the school rule says no hats are to be worn during school hours, but simply holding it or having it with you is ok. either way, this really REALLY obnoxious teacher told her she's taking it, regardless of the fact my friend wasn't even wearing it when this happened. my friend is told to take her hat off all the time but, shouldn't the first offense of having something taken only be for the rest of the school day? this teacher is straight up REFUSING to give it back. i asked the teacher if my friend will get the hat back, the teacher says she might not which made me so mad i was shaking. my friend starts swearing and i started feeling REALLY bad for her because she paid for the hat with her own money and the school is telling her she can't have it back. this teacher is annoying like that and she treats a LOT of students like that, especially students she doesn't even know.

so later in the day, around our 8th period, she goes to my friend in the hall and asks if she knows how many times she was asked to take her hat off. my friend says she doesn't know, and the teacher says she shouldn't get it back because she doesn't know. what, is she supposed to be keeping tally marks on her hand to say how many times she was told to put her hat away? get a new tattoo every time? STUPID. which is why i really hate the teachers in my school.

the rule for cell phones in my school is:

1st offence: taken for the day
2nd offence: taken for the week
3rd offence +: taken for the year

and those can be counted as cheating devices. for a hat, it's so much less of a big deal that it should only be taken for the day since is the first time she's had it taken.

and the worst part, is that we're on break until next tuesday which is why i think the teacher took it. that way my friends mom cant come in and swear the teacher out, which i KNOW my friend's mom would do. i've been to her house enough times.

what do you think? is this fair or unfair?

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Start a petition mattering on the school district you need around 95% of signatures of her students along with parent complaints. GG

i have NO idea why it's even there. in my opinion, hats should just be allowed because, i mean, who is someone hurting with a HAT? if it's distracting to other students, i don't see how it's my problem. you focus more on my hat than the class material, you fail. that's your problem, not mine.

if it's a respect issue, then i guess it's sort of understandable, but what would we even be disrespecting? if it's a whole pledge of allegiance issue, then yes, take it off during the pledge. at our school we aren't obligated to say the pledge but it should still be taken off as a sign of respect, imo. but honestly, i don't see why anyone would need to take it off. it's a hat. my friend is going to hopefully get it back. this teacher is the type of teacher who will take your phone if she so much as sees a lump in your pocket the size of a phone, even if it's not your phone.

and fyi-- even my strictest teacher doesn't care if you have your phone in your pocket. he doesn't even take it if it goes off.

so my best friend got her hat taken away today. the school rule says no hats are to be worn during school hours, but simply holding it or having it with you is ok. either way, this really REALLY obnoxious teacher told her she's taking it, regardless of the fact my friend wasn't even wearing it when this happened. my friend is told to take her hat off all the time but, shouldn't the first offense of having something taken only be for the rest of the school day? this teacher is straight up REFUSING to give it back. i asked the teacher if my friend will get the hat back, the teacher says she might not which made me so mad i was shaking. my friend starts swearing and i started feeling REALLY bad for her because she paid for the hat with her own money and the school is telling her she can't have it back. this teacher is annoying like that and she treats a LOT of students like that, especially students she doesn't even know.

so later in the day, around our 8th period, she goes to my friend in the hall and asks if she knows how many times she was asked to take her hat off. my friend says she doesn't know, and the teacher says she shouldn't get it back because she doesn't know. what, is she supposed to be keeping tally marks on her hand to say how many times she was told to put her hat away? get a new tattoo every time? STUPID. which is why i really hate the teachers in my school.

the rule for cell phones in my school is:

1st offence: taken for the day
2nd offence: taken for the week
3rd offence +: taken for the year

and those can be counted as cheating devices. for a hat, it's so much less of a big deal that it should only be taken for the day since is the first time she's had it taken.

and the worst part, is that we're on break until next tuesday which is why i think the teacher took it. that way my friends mom cant come in and swear the teacher out, which i KNOW my friend's mom would do. i've been to her house enough times.

what do you think? is this fair or unfair?

Hats are actually a big deal. hats and hoodies. People use them to conceal their identity for various (and obvious) reasons. Some teachers just enforce rules more than others because they have nothing better to do. Your friend was only fanning the flames by cussing the teacher out. But if you think something she did was unlawful, report her to your principal. and to everyone thinking the hat rule is bs, schools have overhead cameras. hats (especially baseball caps have no facial visibility from above unless angles a certain way. so if someone robbed the school, they use those to cover their face and get away. I know this stuff because I'm still in school, a ghetto school, and rules are highly enforced (we can't have backpacks on during the school day because they take up too much space. liek wut) and in my area, there has been maybe, 1-2 shootings. Rules are always there for a reason. If you don't want to get punished, then just follow them.

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Your teacher stole a student's property because they broke a minor rule, it isn't right. I could be sympathetic to the teacher if she'd just kept it until the end of the day, but she just upright took it away. At that point it's theft, a real law, not a petty school policy.

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Hats are actually a big deal. hats and hoodies. People use them to conceal their identity for various (and obvious) reasons. Some teachers just enforce rules more than others because they have nothing better to do. Your friend was only fanning the flames by cussing the teacher out. But if you think something she did was unlawful, report her to your principal. and to everyone thinking the hat rule is bs, schools have overhead cameras. hats (especially baseball caps have no facial visibility from above unless angles a certain way. so if someone robbed the school, they use those to cover their face and get away. I know this stuff because I'm still in school, a ghetto school, and rules are highly enforced (we can't have backpacks on during the school day because they take up too much space. liek wut) and in my area, there has been maybe, 1-2 shootings. Rules are always there for a reason. If you don't want to get punished, then just follow them.

she didn't swear out the teacher, she just swore because she was mad. i told her i was really sorry and even during science she was really mad, i just reassured her the teacher could get in trouble for theft because the rule says hats are meant to go home with the dress code violator's legal guardian the same day as the incident.

I feel bad for your friend. My friend wears a hat too, the reason why he wears was to keep his long hair from getting in his face. You can't really concentrate when your hair's getting in the way so I know the pain. You can also tell your friend to say this to your teacher:

Since I didn't witness the event personally, I cannot determine what actually happened. Assuming you didn't exaggerate a portion of the story, I disagree with what disciplinary actions the teacher has decided to take. Although she didn't handle the situation as well as she should have, your friend must have broken boundaries at some point. The teacher doesn't have the authority to confiscate or permanently keep the hat in her possession. Your reactions to the punishment your friend received was not necessary nor appropriate by any means either. It's fine to get angry at someone else's decisions, but you need to control and learn to manage your anger properly.

I would strongly recommend having a conversation with your principle, or some other adult or teacher. Discuss your issue with them and let them know of your displeasure.

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If hats are not allowed, then why bother carrying one around? Even if you're not wearing it, it's probably not a good idea to have it out. That friend was not smart. Your teacher is probably planning to sell that hat on craigslist so she can buy a little pot, because she can't afford any off of her own salary.

If you're waving a hat around in front of an obnoxious teacher, it's bound to be taken away. Just tell your friend to tell her parents. They'll walk up to the teacher and your friend will probably get the hat back.
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