“He confirmed for me how deeply entrenched fundamentalist Christianity is in the DoD Spec Ops [Department of Defense Special Operations] world of the SEALs, Green Berets, Delta Force, Army Rangers USAF … and DoD security contractors like the former Blackwater,” Weinstein said in an email to The Huffington Post. Doherty “helped me on many MRFF client cases behind the scenes to facilitate assistance to armed forces members abused horribly by fundamentalist Christian proselytizing.”

Grievously misnamed bigot, there are certain points of view that I am proud to be intolerant of. Such as bigoted ones.

“Islam is a religion, not a race” ignores the fact that the majority of Muslims are brown and that the religion has been, in sociological terms, racialized in white-majority countries. That is to say, it is associated with brown people. When racist assholes rant about “sand n—-rs,” they’re not thinking about white Bosnian Muslims.

So your point is that a man’s death resulting from unthinking bigotry is evidence that we need more unthinking bigotry?

*facepalms*

Reverse stupidity is not intelligence.

Being opposed to Islamophobia does not mean condoning every act performed in the name of Islam or not being opposed to religion (including Islam). Reflexively hating Muslims or believing that all people who identify as Muslims are horrible people with their heads stuck in the Middle Ages does not qualify as critical thinking.

Yeah, there’s a lot of horrible stuff in the Quran, but there are over a billion Muslims on the planet with differing opinions and the vast, vast majority do not go around killing people. It is possible to be a Muslim and be a decent person. It is also possible to be an antitheist and think of religious people as, well, actual people.

Ms. Daisy Cutter: “Islam is a religion, not a race” ignores the fact that the majority of Muslims are brown and that the religion has been, in sociological terms, racialized in white-majority countries. That is to say, it is associated with brown people. When racist assholes rant about “sand n—-rs,” they’re not thinking about white Bosnian Muslims.

Perhaps some people do that, but I don’t. Nothing I said implied that. You’re jumping to a conclusion that is not supported by my statement. If you want to know if I have racist feelings, just ask.

You were called out on your bigotry at Cuttlefish’s, and you said, no, you aren’t bigoted, you just think that gay men are “anti-intellectual, emotionally effete, bereft of self-insight, and incapable of keep their word.” Why, then, should we trust you to self-report your racism or lack thereof accurately?

Ms. Daisy Cutter: You were called out on your bigotry at Cuttlefish’s, and you said, no, you aren’t bigoted, you just think that gay men are “anti-intellectual, emotionally effete, bereft of self-insight, and incapable of keep their word.”

The truth is never a form of bigotry.

But not entitled to other people hosting it.

No, not at all. He can ban me if he wants to. I still think he’s a coward for doing so. It must give him great satisfaction to wield such awesome and mighty power.

And yet, you complain about persecution when you’re called a bigotted asshat.

An asshole who’s entitled to my POV

You said cuttlefish banned you, not that he sent black helicopters to your location to have you abducted to the secret liberal headquarters for reprogramming. Now that I’m aware of the situation, I’ve contacted my superiors in the conspiracy, of course.

@Verity, Islamophobia is bad because its a Phobia, its irrational. Like the homophobe, the Islamophobe is leaping to unwarranted conclusions. When people act irrationally, they are much more likely to do things without thinking through the consequences. Like the Islamophobes behind that stupid movie who thought it would be just dandy to kick a fucking hornets nest regardless of the innocent bystanders who might be harmed.

Aratina: When you use the f-word as a slur, you are being a bigot. When you turn the term “pride parades” into a slur, you are being a bigot.

Haven’t you ever heard that you can kick your own dog? It’s like how black people can get away with saying nigger, but white people can’t. If you’re black, you can use the word if you want, or not if you don’t want. But white people can’t do that generally speaking.

It’s been amazing to see how these deaths become connected to one personally, especially thanks to the Internet. The lesser number of Bacons needed to be connected to someone across the world. Sean Smith and now Glen Doherty show how these things aren’t just something that happens far away to someone that we don’t know. Two men who made the world(s) a better place, along with Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the unnamed fourth.

I’ve followed MRFF for a while, found ’em through FTB (unsurprisingly), and this just really fucking sucks. Every time I read about it, I just go, well, to echo Ophelia…. dammit.

I offer Doherty’s family, friends, and colleagues my condolences, and note that this was a great man doing great things. I know it’s no consolation in the time of their loss, but Doherty did fantastic things, and people will continue his work.

Unsurprisingly, a lot of media organizations are not mentioning Doherty’s role in the MRFF. If you search just his name on Google News, you get copious hits. Add the phrase “Religious Freedom” and you get many fewer.

Sheesh! I just got another dose of education. Can anyone remember what this thread was supposed to be about?

On Islam/race; please read some of Irshad Manji’s accounts of growing up Muslim. Because her family were South Asian (India/Pakistan) in origin, she encountered Arab-supremacist racism on a daily basis. The elevation of Arab culture uber alles is a regular meme among Muslim apologists.