Name's Jason Thibeault. I'm an IT guy, skeptic, feminist, gamer and atheist, and love OSS, science of all stripes (especially space-related stuff), and debating on-line and off. I enjoy a good bit of whargarbl now and again, and will occasionally even seek it out. I am also apparently responsible for the death of common sense on the internet. My bad.

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Matt Barber Godwins the whole abortion debate

And the shameless application of icing on the nonsense cake: pro-lifers are like Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

He actually thinks that abortion of a blastocyst is exactly like killing an adult human being for religious reasons. A woman’s right to bodily autonomy is exactly like the Holocaust. Unbelievable. How do you reason with people like him, exactly?

slc1 writes:slc1 says:
Of course, it would be totally useless to point out to a piece of filth like Barber that the Nazi party in Germany outlawed abortion so it is he that is on the side of the Nazis.

Well, since you support the slaughter of those who are not (what’s your criterion, anyway? non-jews?) how are we supposed to tell you from other genocidal pieces of filth? Your uniform?

IIRC, the Nazi party outlawed abortion for “Aryan” women, but mandated abortion for “undesirables”. So while they were not purely anti-abortion, they were profoundly anti-choice. Much like the anti-choicers of today. Another parallel is that they started their persecution with minor harassment and escalated when no one (or not enough people) objected or countered their actions. Draw your own morals from the comparison.

You can suffer them, tolerate them, argue with them, defy them, ignore them or just hope they go away. You cannot reason with them because they do not recognize reason as being superior to faith. They simply will claim that faith has a hidden ultra power that changes everything.

So, there you are. And here we are. Just as it’s always been. But after tomorrow’s Reason Rally in D.C. there may be some other options becoming available. One hopes.

“The arguments that the Nazis made in order to dehumanize the Jews are the same arguments that we hear coming from the so-called pro choice movement to dehumanize the unborn child.”

All this time in school, in the countless monuments and museums I visited, all the documentaries I watched, they lied to me.
They always told me that the Nazis compared the jews to vermin that was living at the expense of the German, Aryan people*.
They never told me that, in fact, the jews did occupy the bodies of the Germans, feasted on their metabolism and quite often damaged the host-body, like a blastocyte/embryo/fetus does.
Now I’m still confused because I thought the the Trills were mostly a DS9 invention.