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Do marathons have people who walk/run? I think she will finish, but by mostly walking. She will have some ridiculous time, like 9 hours 45 minutes.

We are never going to hear the end of this if she does the whole 26 miles, whether she runs, walks or crawls. She will use this as a reason to make talk show rounds for a year. ( I've HIGHLY suspected this is the whole reason for a marathon....more media attention! )

I imagine if I didn't have to work...didn't have a FULL TIME job to be at....and had babysitters and housekeepers... maybe I could focus on me, myself and I all the time and do stuff like this.

Pam, you can walk a marathon but it's likely you won't finish because most marathons have cut off times, I would venture to say all actually. The reason being they usually close down streets and they are only allowed to shut them down for a certain amount of time. This Vegas marathon has a pretty harsh cut off time, someone can remind me of it. If you walk you're done. They have shuttle buses to bring you up farther if you fall too far behind, otherwise you have to drop out.

People who have won marathons have walked for short times, however. To tie a shoe, walking through the station to get a drink/gel, etc. But you can't walk more than brief periods before falling too far behind especially in a marathon with a strict cut off time.

Interesting that three years ago, Jenny Masche ran the rock'roll marathon in San Diego when her sextuplets were one year old--no huge fan fare, just a short mention of it on her blog which she had at the time. The whole family went with her and there were a couple of pictures of her babies waiting for her in a tent.

Just mentining this in case Kate thinks she is the only sextuplet mother to ever run a marathon.

...and speaking of the Masches, another family down the tube, partially because of their reality show. At least they had enough sense to keep the divorce off TV.

With Admin's permition, I am bringing my comment from the previous thread here, because I really want to know what others think too:

The acces holiwood interview was a pathetic move on Kate's part,she's obviously obsessed with Jon(which is creepy).The kids may see the interview one they and they are not going to be thrilled that mommy hates daddy so much.

The jogging thing is in no way exploiting the kids ,on the other hands and it really seems to me like an excuse to pick on Kate.Sorry it's just what I think and I am not looking to stir trouble I am just expressing my opinion. There are some things like how Kate dresses or Kate's jogging or even Kate's presumed relation with Steve that wouldn't be this criticized if this weren't Kate Gosselin.

And another thing that occured to me: yes the kids will be hurt when they'll see all those interviews that mommy gave,hating on daddy, but do you really think they won't be equally hurt by the nasty things that we said about their mommy(whom they love no matter what since she is their mother) here and elsewhere? True or not, are they really going to be thrilled no matter how good our intentions were? Maybe they'll think it was none of our business just like they'll think it was none of the sheeple's business to talk ill of their daddy.Am I making any sense? I really hope I am wrong...

Roxy, I think if Kate participated in one of the several local marathons there wouldn't be as much to say about this. She didn't go off to Sioux City, she went to Vegas. It's obvious it's all about her and having a great time and leaving the kids again. She even swung a trip to NYC into it too to prep. No one said much about the 5k she did last year. It was local, and it was with Cara. She even slowed down for Cara. In fact correct me if I'm wrong but I don't even think I did a post on it. There was nothing to say about it.

It's likely she's only doing this race because the main sponsor is Zappos.com where she gets her hooker heels, etc. Probably a 'payback' for all the free crap she's demanded from them - 'cause we all know that's how she rolls.

Realitytvkids.com (Administrator) said... 11 Roxy, I think if Kate participated in one of the several local marathons there wouldn't be as much to say about this. She didn't go off to Sioux City, she went to Vegas. It's obvious it's all about her and having a great time and leaving the kids again. She even swung a trip to NYC into it too to prep. No one said much about the 5k she did last year. It was local, and it was with Cara. She even slowed down for Cara. In fact correct me if I'm wrong but I don't even think I did a post on it. There was nothing to say about it. ____________________________

I don't recall that you did...and Steve was there even for that baby run. And to Pam, of course this is all about being seen by the media. As someone else pointed out, Kate has NO FRIENDS...not in REAL LIFE...and I'd be willing to bet the two friends are paid trainers or from Steve's business. As far as the "Me and my two kids" did thus and so...just further proof she doesn't have the education to know a damned thing about English and couldn't have written a single paragraph of her books without heavy editing. She personifies the meaning of the word FRAUD.

Kate said she wanted to run somewhere warm. I imagine Kate is one of those who watches a lot of movies and thinks it's all palm trees and swimming pools out here, all the time. Nope, it's chilly. Very chilly. Much of the winter. You might get a few odd days of nice hot weather to go in the pool, but it's not the norm. And since it's December, it doesn't surprise me they're forecasting lows of 30's on Sunday.

Ugly nails, how tweeny can we get. Still guessing that alll this behavior comes from whatever she did not get/have in her actual teen years. Time to get over it, 40 is staring you in the face. Simply no dignity in anything she does or says, outrageous to make ANY comments on custodial arrangements on Twitter.

Take your pick of the excuses Miss Kate will use when she does NOT finish the marathon;

1. Its Jon's fault2. The time zone difference3. Its Jon's fault4. she didn't get enough sleep because she was crying so much over being away from her kids again (Oh MY GAWD...I really made myself laugh with that one5. Its Jon's fault6. Nobody told her how to train - its not HER fault, dontcha know!7. Its Jon's fault8. She broke a nail and was devastated9. Its Jon's fault10. Too busy banging Steve-a-reeno11. Its Jon's fault12. Too busy working her fingers to the bone blogging about KOO-pons13. Its Jon's fault14. Desprately calling Hollywood agents begging them to get her on tv15. Its Jon's fault16. Can't run in hooker heels17. Its Jon's fault18. Too busy sending out resumes to hospitals and doctor's offices looking for a good paying nursing job with medical benefits a 401K and a sense of pride that comes with working a respectable job helping others in need.....(*coff coff* just gagged on my sammich with that one19. Its Jon's fault20.....wild card.....fill in your idea here....

Maybe they'll think it was none of our business just like they'll think it was none of the sheeple's business to talk ill of their daddy.Am I making any sense? I really hope I am wrong...

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I think you might be wrong, Roxyhelen, although I also think you raise some good questions.

BUT I can tell you that there is a very good chance that some, if not most, of these kids will be strengthened and fortified by knowing that there were people who saw their mother for what she was.

Kids accept what they grow up with as normal. Kids tend to blame themselves when parents treat them badly, avoid them, or outright dislike them. These beliefs get internalized, and the kids accept the view their awful parent provides for them.

Even as adults, it's difficult to overcome these beliefs. It can make a huge difference if a "child" can see their narcissistic parent through other people's eyes, and that can lead to a much more healthy life.

Much of what the "haters" have written online may end up clarifying issues for these children, and helping them to deal with their mother from a position of strength, instead of from a position of powerlessness.

The kind of record this website offers, and the archive of what people said in advocacy for a better life for those children may prove to be hugely sustaining as they attempt to break out from the clutches of their controlling mother.

I know. If it hadn't been for outsiders recognizing what was going on with my own narcissistic parent, I'd never have made it as an adult.

It still took until I was 30 before I was able to accept that it was my parent who was the problem, not me, even though I am (and was, at the time) a very intelligent, very well-educated adult, who had had a lot of advantages in life that the Gosselin children have been denied.

Have hurtful things been written by "haters"? Yes, and the Gosselin kids will have to work their way through those.

But I think it's not too much of a stretch to guess that the confusion and rage so many posters feel is nothing compared to what those kids are going through, and well go through in the future as they deal with the raw hand their mother has dealt them.

The Gosselin kids deserve to know that a whole universe of people cared about their welfare, even when the most important person in their lives didn't.

First about the kids someday reading what was said about their mother:

1. Their mother made the choice to become a public figure and made the choice for THEM to be public figures before they could understand what that means.

2. I grew up with a narcissistic selfish jerk of a mom like Kate--they have far bigger problems than what other people said about her.

3. I would have been thrilled to bits to know I wasn't crazy---that OTHER people noticed how awful she was. It would have been pretty validating for me. In fact, relatives have shared with me their experiences with my mom and it's nice to know I wasn't alone in dealing with her.

As for this marathon, I don't really care so much about it EXCEPT when placed in the larger context of her absolute desperation to get away from her kids on a regular basis no matter what! I mean, wouldn't it be awesome, if she's REALLY doing it for them as she says, if they could be waiting and cheering at the finish line for her? But no, that would defeat the entire purpose: she said herself she wants to be a mom one week and travel the next, regularly. Who wants to be away from their kids two full weeks out of every month?

Kate Gosselin.

So for me, I'm just sadly watching to see how long she can pull off flying away from them over and over, leaving them with a babysitter a week or more at a time. Any excuse. Any excuse.

The Gosselin kids deserve to know that a whole universe of people cared about their welfare, even when the most important person in their lives didn't. ----------------I absolutely agree, but what if they don't see it this way? What if this whole thing only makes it harder on them? I mean if my mother was like KG(thank God she is the opposite) sure I may think awful things about her but I may think it's no one else's right to slam her.It's the one thing I'm concerned about. I do think you're right and that this may help them build a time line of events.

Admin said...Roxy, I think if Kate participated in one of the several local marathons there wouldn't be as much to say about this. She didn't go off to Sioux City, she went to Vegas. It's obvious it's all about her and having a great time and leaving the kids again.--------------------Agreed she appears to seize every opportunity to get away from the kids and I do remember the heartbreaking pictures of the kids last year when Kate left, yet again.My point was she's not making money off of the kids me this time we usually focus on those events.

One thing I failed to mention and was pretty important: I mean what if Mady and Cara read this now, at age 11? What if the tups read this in 6 years? Not someday in 20 years, someday in the immediate future.

I don't have a narcissist for a mother but most people that have a narcissist mother who have realized that either because of Kate or talked about it openly because of Kate seem to me immensely relieved that other people are talking about it and validating what they are feeling.

I've been posting alot today, I know but I found this article which I think is spot on:http://yearinreview.yahoo.com/2011/us_end_of_an_era#8kate-plus-8 Sorry if somebody else posted it I didn't get a chance to read through all the comments it's been kind of hectic lately and I didn't have much time.

"Will there be more reality shows about big families, odd families, and average families coming our way? Probably. But viewers will likely not trust those families as they did Jon and Kate. We'll know that next batch of down-to-earth, everyday folks who just happen to have cameras following them around aren't going to stay that way for long. And what's the point of watching if we already know how it's going to end?"

One good that came out of it, there is less interested in watching shows like this. It's been done, and the public was burned. And this is good for other kids out there.

One thing I failed to mention and was pretty important: I mean what if Mady and Cara read this now, at age 11? What if the tups read this in 6 years? Not someday in 20 years, someday in the immediate future.

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The sad truth is, they're stuck with all of this.

That's one of the horrible things their parents did to them.

There are eight kids in this family, and there may be eight completely different reactions to what those children find online. Nothing can be done about giving those children their privacy back, now.

It is a safe bet, though, that at least a few, if not all eight, will benefit from realizing that the people who think their mother walks on water are not in the majority.

Kids know when they are treated badly. They just generally assume that it's their fault. The "haters" are saying, loud and clear, that it's NOT.

I don't have a narcissist for a mother but most people that have a narcissist mother who have realized that either because of Kate or talked about it openly because of Kate seem to me immensely relieved that other people are talking about it and validating what they are feeling.

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ABSOLUTELY, validation!

Anyone who reads this blog has seen posts, over and over, from people who finally realize what was wrong with their impossible-to-deal-with parents/relatives/friends.

It makes a world of difference if you know the pathology you are dealing with. It will to these kids, too, one way or another.

What is Katie Irene going to do when this marathon is over and she goes home? No more trips to plan, no more private time for her and Steve (unless you count the bedroom of severe penalty), nothing to tweet about nonstop. She'll never make it. Maybe we should start a poll. Where will she go next and what excuse will she use?

Kate is driven by her overly inflated ego. Looks like because of her personal eternal dissatisfaction, she going to spend the rest of her life proving something or another to everyone & herself. Whatever floats your boat, Kate.

How long before she announces that she is planning on climbing Mount Everest?

Anyway, she's not the only person running that race. I couldn't care less if she makes it or not. My toes will continue tapping...

P.S. IMO, she could have ran any race in the northeast, why did she have to schlepp all the way to Vegas to teach her kids a lesson/ or prove anything to herself?

Nahhhh, it's just another excuse to spend time away from her children ... with taggalong Skeevie.

If Kate finishes this marathon, she will make it her new hobby to run marathons across the country. That will be another way to go on trips with Steve and get away from her kids. She will probably try to get some sponsorship from some type of fitness/gym business. Then she'll hit up the speaking circuit and be a "motivational speaker".

I also believe she has been working with a trainer--at least the last couple of months. Her new "friends" will run with her and tell her when to get water, gels, how to pace herself etc. They will get her across the finish line. Yet, Kate will not have had any "professional training". LOL. She is a piece of work for sure.

tate said... 35If Kate finishes this marathon, she will make it her new hobby to run marathons across the country. That will be another way to go on trips with Steve and get away from her kids. She will probably try to get some sponsorship from some type of fitness/gym business. Then she'll hit up the speaking circuit and be a "motivational speaker".

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Yeah, I've thought this for awhile. Kate does things with a purpose, always one that will benefit her. She'll find a way to make money off this marathon and others to come even if she doesn't finish it, and I think she will - only because she refuses to remove herself and the children from the spotlight - she had a taste of fame and she's addicted.

Take your pick of the excuses Miss Kate will use when she does NOT finish the marathon;

1. Its Jon's fault2. The time zone difference3. Its Jon's fault4. she didn't get enough sleep because she was crying so much over being away from her kids again (Oh MY GAWD...I really made myself laugh with that one5. Its Jon's fault6. Nobody told her how to train - its not HER fault, dontcha know!7. Its Jon's fault8. She broke a nail and was devastated9. Its Jon's fault10. Too busy banging Steve-a-reeno11. Its Jon's fault12. Too busy working her fingers to the bone blogging about KOO-pons13. Its Jon's fault14. Desprately calling Hollywood agents begging them to get her on tv15. Its Jon's fault16. Can't run in hooker heels17. Its Jon's fault18. Too busy sending out resumes to hospitals and doctor's offices looking for a good paying nursing job with medical benefits a 401K and a sense of pride that comes with working a respectable job helping others in need.....(*coff coff* just gagged on my sammich with that one19. Its Jon's fault20.....wild card.....fill in your idea here....

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She'll probably say it was too cold and she can't run in cold weather. She won't even realize that once you get running, that'll warm you up.

Yeah, I've thought this for awhile. Kate does things with a purpose, always one that will benefit her. She'll find a way to make money off this marathon and others to come even if she doesn't finish it, and I think she will - only because she refuses to remove herself and the children from the spotlight - she had a taste of fame and she's addicted.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

This might be the plan, but I bet it doesn't work. She's too demanding, too unreasonable, and too hard to work with.

Box office poison, in short.

She might get a few deals, but no savvy corporation is going to sign on with her. (I"m lookin' at you, CC.) She will torpedo whatever it is because she is simply not willing to work at anything, ever. She won't interact on Twitter unless she's desperate for attention, she can't sell a brand to save her life, and she's lazy, lazy, lazy.

The only thing in the world she's really interested in is being a diva and imaging that she's idolized by millions. Lots of people share those delusions, but the only ones who make a living off it have some other talent, too. She doesn't.

Pray for those kids said... 18 Take your pick of the excuses Miss Kate will use when she does NOT finish the marathon;

1. Its Jon's fault2. The time zone difference3. Its Jon's fault4. she didn't get enough sleep because she was crying so much over being away from her kids again (Oh MY GAWD...I really made myself laugh with that one5. Its Jon's fault6. Nobody told her how to train - its not HER fault, dontcha know!7. Its Jon's fault8. She broke a nail and was devastated9. Its Jon's fault10. Too busy banging Steve-a-reeno11. Its Jon's fault12. Too busy working her fingers to the bone blogging about KOO-pons13. Its Jon's fault14. Desprately calling Hollywood agents begging them to get her on tv15. Its Jon's fault16. Can't run in hooker heels17. Its Jon's fault18. Too busy sending out resumes to hospitals and doctor's offices looking for a good paying nursing job with medical benefits a 401K and a sense of pride that comes with working a respectable job helping others in need.....(*coff coff* just gagged on my sammich with that one19. Its Jon's fault20.....wild card.....fill in your idea here....&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Did you see Kate's plateful of CARBS, i.e., DONUTS and FRENCH TOAST...that's her idea of "loading up on carbs"...this woman is a MORON. I'm not a runner, but even I know that loading up on carbs usually refers to pasta, not fat-laden sweets.

So what happens when kate falls behind her "2 amazing friends"? If she's running in the 4 hour group, that's a very real possibility. Are the obligated in kate's mind to lag behind with her? Can you imagine the conniption if they do the appropriate thing and move on? Yeah, loved the carb load too. She is beyond stupid.

So how soon after the race will Kate head home to those eight...count 'em eight...kids? Sure, Monday will be recuperation day, but I'm gonna say she doesn't leave Vegas until at least Wednesday. And hey, while out west, why not fit in a visit to L.A.?

Surely she can stretch this out for another week! She might not get Steve back again until after the holidays.

It's interesting that Kart is running with two "friends". Her road manager, Steve probably arranged for her to run with a couple trainers or LV security guards who are runners. They are probably paid to guide her across the finish line even if they end up carrying her. There are so many obvious reasons why she chose LV to run her first marathon. She's probably hoping for a hosting gig at future marathons, product endorsements, magazine covers, interviews, speaking engagements, etc. If she ran a local race she wouldn't receive the same publicity. The time away from her kids and alone time with Steve in LV is a given. I read Brook Burke is hosting one of the events. She also has a product endorsement for sneakers. I wonder if Brook will be running in the marathon also.

Just read her latest blog post and I have to say I am so dissapointed in Competitor Group. She had no business being at that party, that kick off event is where all the elite athletes and the major players in the running industry are invited to. She has no relevance with all of them. I will be highly upset if Competitor chooses to work with her. I have run many of the competitor group events and if they decide to support her I will boycott their events from now on.

Now onto the carbo load, she decided to carbo load just this morning and with french toast and donuts? give me a freaking break, she has no idea how this works or how it takes.

You dont carboload for a marathon the morning before the race, you carboload in teh week prior, steadily increasing your intake of healthy carbs to build up the glycogen stores in your muscles. All the crap she is eating will be burnt by this afternoon.

I am just really disgusted by her and by competitor group right now and cannot fathom how her sheeple find her inspiring at all.

I am sorry, but I am having a hard visualizing fake KT from head to toe mingling w/ all the other truly devoted runners as though she is one of the them. What is she going to do when they all start getting taped up (?tape) and doing their stretches and warm ups (which she has never mentioned) and strategizing with their crew for hand-offs stationed along the way, getting last minute pep talk from trainers/coaches team mates. She makes it sound like she just finally gets herself psyched up and heads for the driveway, sometimes (according to her) not even taking water. Unless she has been fooling us all along. I just can't see it. It doesn't compute. Just curious but do the women bind their chest area or just wear a good bra?

Okay, since I haven't posted yet, but someone else with same name has. Not that I mind, it's free country pick whatever name you want. Not my blog either. Just hope nobody gets confused.

I just don't get why she has this need, never ending need to travel away from her kids. What is this run going to glorify for her? What will this give her? As a narcissist she needs to be given something doesn't she? In order to feel good or whatever?

If Steve runs with her, there there should be no guessing left I should think...

This is highly unlikely, but is there a slight chance Kate is eating all that sugary stuff on purpose so she'll have an excuse as to why she couldn't finish the race?*********Honestly, I don't. I think this is another example of Kate's stellar preparation that she displays in all aspects of her life.

If you read Kate's latest blog entry, she talks about the Competitor group and how they sponsor marathons all around the world. THEN she says--Madrid 2012--sign me up! So, see this is her plan. Get hooked up with some group who will employ her and she'll be traveling all over the place. She is reinventing herself (once again) this time as a marathon/fitness fanatic.

She really will do whatever strikes her that gets her trips and money and perks and celeb-ish stuff. If it's running this year it will be something else the next when the freebies run out. Kate the chameleon.

Get hooked up with some group who will employ her and she'll be traveling all over the place. She is reinventing herself (once again) this time as a marathon/fitness fanatic.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

More easily whined about than accomplished. We'll see what she gets offered on that golden platter of hers. By the time Madrid 2012 rolls around, she probably won't be running any more. If a miracle happens, and she is, she won't be any kind of running star. Serious runners work hard, and Kate Gosselin can't stick with anything that requires effort, training, or skill.

She is reinventing herself (once again) this time as a marathon/fitness fanatic.************When she first started saying she was exercizing, I didn’t believe her (!) but apparently I was wrong. I think she has developed an obsession w/ her looks, and she and/or her pr people decided running was something she could do in public (unlike say sit ups) and she could get pr from it. Wonder how much of the kids' money she is spending on her own pr. She disgusts me.

I think I'm the one who posted about my son, his trip to India and my tracking via FlightAware.

I love FlightAware!!! It gives this old mom some peace of mind knowing he's still 'up there' and making progress. I heave a sigh of relief when he lands, then I can head to bed. On his trip over, I had to stay up until 2:30 AM to keep the plane in the air - LOL. Was worth it, absolutely!

I would never dare tell him I'm tracking - he'd make a face and say "geez Mom, quit worrying"...

FlightAware technology is the best! :-)

And yes, I agree with you - thank goodness most people don't do things kart's way.....

Have fun keeping track of that wee tiny little airplane on the screen!

"PLEASE NOTE: All participants in this race must wear the ChronoTrack timing tag on your shoe in order to have their times recorded."

I wouldn't put it past Kate to NOT wear the tag so that her name wouldn't be listed in the offical results. That way it couldn't be confirmed what her time was and whether she finished or not. She can then just say that the tag must have malfunctioned or that she was soooo nervous she forgot to put it on her shoe.

I'm not a runner, but I wonder if all the sugar carbs will lead to a bad case of the browns running down her legs?

That's a picture I'd pay to see......

Now you might say that's mean of me, but the reason I say that is kart seems to imply with all her twits and blog blabber that she knows what she's doing. Instinctively. No trainers.

It seems to me that it's important to inject some real reality into her fantasy world. I 'suspect' that she doesn't know what she's doing at all as far as this marathon goes.

I 'suspect' that if she fails or gets a case of cramps or runny browns that she'll be PISSED at the world.

This seems to be a pattern with her... "I want it. I will get it. I will do it. Get out of my way. And then............ uh oh - failure.

Her personality does not have a conscience, it does not process shame or embarrassment. Only anger and arrogance.

I also 'suspect' that there will be no real marathon photos of her, only the fake pap purseboy photos. How do you think the runners in her corral will feel when he tells them to move so he can get a posed picture?

You know, after giving this some thought.... maybe kart "might could" make a go of this running thing.

It's a solitary sport which fits her NPD. She won't be exploiting her kids. If she can actually buckle down and show any kind of skill at this she might get some sponsor to pony up some dough... and she'd get to leave the little $$$$$$ $$ at home.

Maybe someday the little kids won't be known as the ATMs anymore. Maybe we'll be thinking of them as Jon's kids.

You know, after giving this some thought.... maybe kart "might could" make a go of this running thing.

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Sure, she might make a go of it, as a SPORT, but she is not going to be able to make a living doing this. There's no income in running for a has-been, d-listed, former reality rube and current horrible mom, no matter how many races she runs.

She is all excited about this because it has extended the time she can spend away from the kids, and she thinks she's going to get the attention that so rapidly evaporating in her present life. While the thrill lasts, that is enough to keep her going. Once she sees that she will have to work at running, and that there are many, many people who take it more seriously than she does, and do it better, that will be the end.

She may be able to grift a few pair of shoes and some running gear before this, too, is all over, but she'll never manage to make an income out of this, much less one to support herself in the style to which she has become accustomed.

I agree that Kate won't be able to make a living from running marathons. Gosh, even superior runners (think Olympics) sometimes have a hard time making a living unless they get significant endorsements. No, Kate will just milk this for the time she gets away from her kids, maybe some free trips or shoes or shorts, and any MEDIA attention she gets. Plus, I really do think she has become psycho about her weight and seeing how low she can get it. I believe that soon she will be tooting her horn about being below 100 pounds and she'll be one of those stick thin Leeann Rimes/Kelly Ripa bodies. If she can't control the world, she can at least control her weight. Sick.

mama mia said... 27 I think Kate has a trainer and has been training for this marathon far longer than she is admitting. She wants people to think she is some super hero who jogs around her driveway and then miraculously pulls in this stunning finish time, seemingly out of nowhere. Her 'can do' attitude. It is all bullshit. She is training and has been for well over a year now.

Border Collie said... 29 She stated somewhere in the last week that she would have company on her run because she had met a couple of great friends to run with. Meaning, in the last couple of weeks she met 2 people she never knew before, and is now referring to them as great friends.

who cares about snow said... 36 I agree with mamma mia.I think Kate has been training with a personal trainer all along.We all know Kate lies,or stretches the truth as long as that 20 mile marathon.She will never admit to having help from a personal trainer,it doesn't fit into her poor,struggling, single mother of eight persona.

Molly12 said... 90 I have to agree with some other posters that Kate does have trainers (her two new friends). She has stated multiple times that she does "not" have a trainer and doing it all on her own. In Kate speak, if she is typing, she is lying. If she were to own up to it, that means she needed help and can't play up the "poor me….I'm doing it all on my own." Second, the unemployed mom of 8 (yes, count them “8”!) would be spending the kids money for the training

tate said... 35 I also believe she has been working with a trainer--at least the last couple of months. Her new "friends" will run with her and tell her when to get water, gels, how to pace herself etc. They will get her across the finish line. Yet, Kate will not have had any "professional training". LOL. She is a piece of work for sure. ------------------------------------------------------

I just have to say that I'm starting to believe this theory. Khate always tweets about how she doesn't have a trainer and is just scared to death for this race. She has said made the "no trainer" comments far too many times, so that sets off the red flags for me. Then, add to that the sudden appearance of the two new running friends she just happened to meet recently (where??) who are going out to Las Vegas to run this race with her. It just makes no sense.

She's up to something, which I've kind of believed all along because I do NOT think this marathon in Las Vegas was her idea at all. She has no running friends and is NOT clued into the running world at all. I don't think she ever even would have known about "Rock 'n Roll" Half marathons and marathons on her own. And, why pick Las Vegas out of all the races she could go to? Plus, I still think it's odd to have only run in one 5K a year and a half ago and decide to go straight into a full marathon like this, and so far from home. Someone planned this for her a while ago, perhaps TLC before the show was canceled (they needed ideas for episodes).

Khate can't do anything alone. She will be running with her two trainers, who will help her complete it in a decent time. All her tweets about no trainer and being so scared are total bull. She is desperate for some positive attention and she wants to be able to pat herself on the back that she accomplished this, along with the sycophants on her Twitter who will act like she just walked on water. Be prepared for all the press that I'm sure has already been arranged to cover this miracle that Khate actually ran a marathon (along with tens of thousands of other people).

I remain totally unimpressed. Maybe if and when she decides to devote some time and energy into being a good mother, my opinion might change.

tate said... 75 I agree that Kate won't be able to make a living from running marathons. Gosh, even superior runners (think Olympics) sometimes have a hard time making a living unless they get significant endorsements. No, Kate will just milk this for the time she gets away from her kids, maybe some free trips or shoes or shorts, and any MEDIA attention she gets. Plus, I really do think she has become psycho about her weight and seeing how low she can get it. I believe that soon she will be tooting her horn about being below 100 pounds and she'll be one of those stick thin Leeann Rimes/Kelly Ripa bodies. If she can't control the world, she can at least control her weight. Sick. _____________________________

She is sick (mentally) and if she continues this obsession w/ weight (lack thereof), she's going to end up 6' under just like Karen Carpenter.

Perhaps, the two "friends" she is running with are people she "met" through twitter. She has had some tweets from runners who are participating in the marathon. I even think she was emailing with one so she could ask running questions. Then there is the one who offered to send her the free shirt and book. That one is definitely running the marathon, as she is tweeting about being there now.

I think Kate considers anyone who praises her, is nice to her or sends her gifts, a "friend".

She may not have a trainer as in an actual "person", but she could have read a book or online website. To her, that would be consider no training.

I am thinking that maybe Steve, in his new role as business advisor or whatever Kate said that he was, was putting feelers out and made arrangements for Kate's "new friends" to train and run the marathon with her. I imagine it was his doing that she connected with these new friends and has been training with them. And yes, I also think that she has protested too much "I don't have a trainer. I've never had professional training help.", etc and that is a huge red flag.

#78 said, "I think Kate considers anyone who praises her, is nice to her or sends her gifts, a "friend"."................................Exactly, and they are also like family to her. Her references to friends & family are meaningless, as she is incapable of having these type of relationships or even understanding the meaning behind them. Kate's focus is on herself....on what people can do for her or give to her.....in the style of grifting of course.

I agree her 'new' friends are probably hired security and/or trainers. I can't see her going it alone amongst 44,000 runners. She couldn't handle the few gawkers at the corn maze and had to leave early.

She is acting too dumb about no trainer. She maybe just wants to stir up the 'haters'. Even if she didn't use a trainer there are so many places online with info about running a marathon that she could learn something if she looked.

Random thoughts: if Kate were a serious runner, I'd think she would have done at least a few 10k races in the past year. Also I think she picked this marathon because it's at night, in the dark....where her cellulite and makeup sparkle melting off won't be as obvious. Also, her climbing into the sag wagon or crying/whining/cgeating would be less likely to be documented. And finally, with all the shit said about her why does it take but a tiny blurb on a tiny blog like hollybaby to set her off?? It has something to do with her continued vitriol against Jon and her obsession with 'winning' with him. That article was benign; most kids with divorced parents who are both involved split major holidays. No big. But Kate has to call them out on their supposed lies. Can't even get her to comment on a f-ing perv editor on her defunct non-reality show. She's all kinds of screwed up

I posted a few weeks ago, when FlightAware was mentioned. That site is the creation of my son and two of his friends. A hobby that turned into an internet business. I am so proud to have two worlds collide. At the moment I am visiting my son in Texas (from the Midwest). ... and reading the posts here. I love my "guy" and being his mom. That feeling is one of the reasons I can't understand Kate. She seems so disconnected from her maternal instincts. Thanks to all the moms here (especially the ones who use FlightAware).

December 2nd, 2011 Kate Gosselin Doesn’t Get Kids On Christmas DayJon and Kate are doing a great job sharing their eight little ones over the holidays and now we know where the adorable Gosselettes will be when Santa comes down the chimney!

Kate Gosselin gets her little ones for Christmas Eve but on Christmas morning they’ll be heading somewhere else! HollyBaby.com has just spoken to a source close to the Gosselin camp who tells us that Kate “doesn’t mind” that she doesn’t get the kids on Christmas Day!

“The kids are spending Christmas Day with their dad [Jon Gosselin],” a source tells us. “Kate wanted the kids for Christmas Eve so that she could do their holiday traditions together. But Jon will go over to the house and get the kids on Christmas morning. Everyone is pretty happy with the arrangement.”

Kate let Jon take care of the kids while she was in Australia and now she’s willingly sharing holidays. We’re so happy to see Kate getting along with Jon for the sake of their little ones!----------------------------

Plus, I thought you all might like to know that yesterday, Jon tweeted to HLBaby: "Your story is 100% false."

So, I think that makes the second time recently that both Khate and Jon refuted a story by HollyBaby about the kids' custody arrangements. I notice they are still claiming that Jon had the kids while Khate was in Australia.

For All the Moms (51) -- thank you. I was catching up and reading from the bottom up. Got to you AFTER my first post. I am proud. I am a mom. Suspect the same is true of most here. Really like your posting name.

I didn't see the tweet (or picture?) of Kate'scarb loading with doughnuts. Could it be aruse? "You idiots THINK this is what I'm eating, and you will start kicking up dirt about how stupid I am. Well, really, I just had a plateful of healthy pasta. The doughnut was cut into 8 pieces and my kids pigged out on it and Steve ate the French toast." Kate does love gotcha moments and will say or do anything to get tongues wagging about her.

Distance runners are generally seen as highly motivated (Heffner, 2006), highly concerned withphysical fitness (Goldfarb, & Plante, 1984), and as having highly perfectionist tendencies (Hall, Kerr,Kozub, & Finnie,2007).Perfectionism is likely where anorexic patients and female distance runners most overlap. Since female distance runners tend to exhibit a drive for perfection coupled with a tendency to be thin (and, as mentioned above, a propensity toward amenorrhea), it is logical that one might presume an association between distance running and eating disorders.

The only thing in the world she's really interested in is being a diva and imaging that she's idolized by millions. Lots of people share those delusions, but the only ones who make a living off it have some other talent, too. She doesn't. *****************************************

That doesn't explain Snooki's millions of fans. What talent does she have other than being an alcoholic pig?

I get what you are trying to say but it doesn't always work that way. Sadly.

Krei-baby tweeted about the Competitor Group party and that this company runs several marathons and then says, "Madrid '12" sign me up!!". Uhhh, bitch, sign yourself up, book the flight and hotel, and abandon your kids for two weeks this time. What kind of dilettante runner travels the world for marathons in between Botox treatments? She's either got the world's worst genetics or she doesn't run much at all. She is too doughy to be a consistent runner. I ran 1-2 miles a day 4 days a week and had no fat plus lots of muscle definition in my legs and arms. The one area running doesn't tone particularly well are the abs, so it's hilarious she spray tanned the fake abs back in the running bra days.

For All the Moms (51) -- thank you. I was catching up and reading from the bottom up. Got to you AFTER my first post. I am proud. I am a mom. Suspect the same is true of most here. Really like your posting name.

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So glad you saw my comment, Mary Ann!

Yes, I think most of us who read here are moms, and we know exactly how hard, and how rewarding, it is to be a mom. Kate just doesn't get that she has no monopoly on parenting. It's so sad to see what the Gosselin children are missing, and to realize the ways indifferent or downright neglectful parenting is robbing them of what should be their right to a healthy childhood.

I loved your comment about your son, Mary Ann, and, by the way, I'm so glad you so wisely kept his identity private. You're a proud mom *and* a smart one!

Administrator and all other patient posters. I did promise that once I was with my son, I would have him correct whatever problem was wrong with my ability to post. I always used Anonymous and then added Post from MaryAnn. Now, I have an account! Hopefully, I can keep it in working order. (The repair was complicated and involved computer terminology that I won't remember.) Good to join you all ....

The only thing in the world she's really interested in is being a diva and imaging that she's idolized by millions. Lots of people share those delusions, but the only ones who make a living off it have some other talent, too. She doesn't. *****************************************

That doesn't explain Snooki's millions of fans. What talent does she have other than being an alcoholic pig?

I get what you are trying to say but it doesn't always work that way. Sadly.

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Good point. I guess I was giving K8 credit for having already used up her no-talent-dysfunctional-bitch-from-a-reality-show 15 minutes.

Man, even Snooki is more successful than Kate Gosselin. There's a concept for you.

Chef, getting an ugly ass cheap manicure has nothing todo with running. Kate is doing this marathon thing just to stay relevant (?) and to get away from the kids. It's really quite reckless how ill-prepared she appears to be. I do think she'll finish, however, just to show people. Wonder if she'll do something dramatic at the finish line? Collapse to the ground and cry? Oh yeah, she did that already.

I woke up this morning and the first gripping thought on my mind was “oh my gosh, it’s for real – the marathon is TOMORROW! No more days of padding to keep my nerves in check. It’s for real and I’m running it!”_____________________________

What the heck does "no more days of 'PADDING' to keep my nerves in check" mean?

I am not a runner but it makes sense to me that Kate has indeed been working with a trainer but has not confessed to it. It is a win-win situation for her. If she finishes the marathon, she can go around bragging about how she had no help; she helped herself and did it all alone. Isn't she AMAZING?!! However, if she doesn't actually finish the marathon for some reason she can always say, "Well, it was my first marathon and I never worked with a trainer. I tried to do it all on my own, like I do everything else. But my kids are proud of me for trying my best and they think I'm awesome and they cheered me on and they are the reason I got as far as I did and I did it all for them and blah blah blah...."

"My point was she's not making money off of the kids me this time we usually focus on those events."~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

She is using the kids. She drags them and their father through the mud every time she is in the news. She uses the kids on her blog and tweets. She makes them post for pictures showing how much they love her and support her. She also uses the brand name created on the backs of the children to get her freebies. She is still using them to get money. She just cant do it directly on TV any more.

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"So, I think that makes the second time recently that both Khate and Jon refuted a story by HollyBaby about the kids' custody arrangements. I notice they are still claiming that Jon had the kids while Khate was in Australia."

The difference is that Jon's Twitter account is private. He no longer lets everyone and their dog see his tweets. You cant follow his twitter account and automatically see his tweets. He has to accept you as a follower. I doubt that he is letting many new strangers see his account.

Oh, another thought about Kate's version of carb loading. I can't speak for anyone else, but if I've been off fats for awhile (dieting, etc.) and then eat something fatty, I feel sick to my stomach. I feel draggy and bloated. And bloated leads to, well, you know.

Marie said... 104Yeah, and who is supposed to be watching her kids and all that while Kate is off running around Las Vegas?

I don't see how she can afford to fly, rent hotel, meals, the non-helpers back home and all this other stuff when she's on a mediocre blogging site for a job once a month! Blows my mind.============================================

I think she has far more money put away than most of us think. I'm also pretty sure that her BF is pulling in a good salary from his security company.

So, I think that makes the second time recently that both Khate and Jon refuted a story by HollyBaby about the kids' custody arrangements. I notice they are still claiming that Jon had the kids while Khate was in Australia.

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Perhaps HollyBaby needs to put out a scout to find a new "source" in the Gosselin camp. Their current one is batting zero.

Kate tweeted,

Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin@@MiloandJack I've waited my whole life for this... Pizza on the brain while I run tomorrow... And no dinner yet but will keep you posted

Waited for what? A marathon, or pizza? Her whole life? I seem to recall when she said that she's never in her life been without high heels. She just makes up this stuff.

fidosmommy said... 103 Oh, another thought about Kate's version of carb loading. I can't speak for anyone else, but if I've been off fats for awhile (dieting, etc.) and then eat something fatty, I feel sick to my stomach. I feel draggy and bloated. And bloated leads to, well, you know.---------------

Too bad Kate couldn't wake up one day and the 1st gripping thought on her mind was her kids for a change. Pathetic is too pale of a word for a non- mothering witch like her.I really despise all she stands for, which is a big fat nothing, herself.

How her kids eyes would light up if she said, " to heck with this stupid race, we are all going to go over to Grandma's house and see what treats she has baked for Christmas. We can see Aunt Jodi and play with your cousins too. My Mom always said I was a dreamer, but that is my Christmas wish for the G8.

Since I'm not a runner, wondering about this..when a runner reaches out to get a cup of water without breaking stride or spilling, this must take coordination, timing, and practice. When the water spills on her because she misses the hand off, can't you just see her stop and threaten the volunteer with "penalty of severeness"? Uh, did I spell that right?

I think all the sugar that Kart is consuming will make her tired. Her sugar levels will peak and then will crash back down. She'll end up feeling sick and exhausted before the race even begins. I don't know why she is so obsessed with eating pizza. I would think the cheese would be more binding than sugary donuts.

There might be an opportunity to get a good pap photo of her later in the race, as I suspect she won't be hanging in with her corral group.

She will be dropping back at some point.

Wait - I wonder if she has prearranged for purseboy to take her photo at a certain mile marker, a certain water station, etc. She will certainly separate herself from the crowd as fast as she can so she can run 'in her own space' away from all the commoners.

And how could he be making money if no one is paying for his services? I cannot imagine a company anywhere that allows a vice president to skim off salaries of other workers and not work himself bringing in money.....

Interesting! Kate is a nurse. Had to take nutrition as part of classes. I guess Kate is the Clif- note reader or I memorize it, to take test and forget it, info does not stick between ears. Kate makes a losy nurse. I'm not a runner, but am a border line diabetic(just over the border by .5)and I have to watch carbs, sugar is not the only carb, I have to watch and some times the sugar content is very small and the other carbs are high. So eating donuts and french toast is not the carbs you are suppose to eat for a runner(they have more fat). And as someone said here, that will burn off, in hours after you eat, making you hungry again and not filling you up, empty calories, bad carbs. Kate must have it in her head that sugar is energy, so load up on them, but sugar burns off quickly, and you get that high and then bam! the high falls to the ground and you become tired. Kate does not know what are the right carbs to eat. I hope Kate falls on her ass. Question: do not runners, have to fill up on a certain amount of carbs everyday, to stay health and keep the muscles working to prevent cramps, and eating sugary things is avoided, cause they are empty carbs?

SW Girl 57....I just got back from Tucson and yes, it was cold but it's colder down here in Bisbee. I think Kate's PR people got her the invite to the Competitor Group kick off party. Can you imagine her trying to talk running with real runners? Um, I've got 8 kids and ran around my driveway 10 times the other day. What a laugh that would be! I thought for a while that she had a secret trainer, but what real trainer would let her eat that crap for breakfast? Hmmmmm....maybe the new friends that she's running with are people that she met on twitter or maybe just some of Steve's security people; can't let the sweaty masses of people near her highness now can we?

Pray for those kids 18....

20. Competitor Group doesn't know how to organize marathons properly for me to run them the way I run. Nobody understands how to do things for ME, ME, ME!!!!!!!!

Steve is still apparently the executive V.P. at his company. Prudential Associates

If the company is taking in any money at all, I can't imagine that he is not drawing a salary from it.

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Steve is a principle in the company. It, and he, can be anything they want on a website. He can take whole years off to babysit a "crazy woman" and become her "road manager" if he wants, or do anything else he pleases, while his website acts as a placeholder and keeps up a front.

It's very easy to appear to be whoever you'd like to be on the Internet. I could put up a website tomorrow claiming to be a security expert or anything else I pleased, and no one checking my website casually would know the difference.

Steve's company's website is a case in point. In the old days, people just printed their own business cards with impressive titles on them. Trot down to the printer, and you could be whoever you wanted to be. Now people put up websites. Same thing, different era.

You have no idea what the financial arrangements are within the company. If Steve is, in fact, acting as Kate's "road manager", he may very well be on an extended leave of absence, and merely keeping company with the charming Ms. Gosselin.

Or he may be paying a percentage of what Kate pays him in to the company coffers.

Or he may simply be personally pocketing every cent that Kate pays him.

His company is privately held, meaning that the principles answer only to themselves, so there is no way to be sure.

Having a website with his picture on it in no way proves, or even suggests, that Steve is earning a salary. All the website dies us illustrate the way Steve prefers to be perceived. That's it.

I'm not entirely convinced that Kate has a secret trainer, as I would assume this trainer would also inform Kate about proper nutrition throughout her marathon training and pre-marathon meals - eating the right carbs instead of sweets.

This person above, who claims to be a certified trainer, has been tweeting Kate some marathon advice such as when Kate was planning on another 20 mile run close to the marathon and told her not to, to keep her legs fresh.

Reading runners' comments here the last few weeks, I get the sense that Kate isn't properly prepared for a full marathon based on what others have said in regards to Kate's tweets about running and nutrition. This carb loading breakfast is just an example. Thanks for providing your insight and experiences.

True - I have no idea about Steve or his company. It could be all smoke and mirrors for all I know. I was just throwing out a theory about where he might be getting money. None of us actually knows anything about the finances of Kate or Steve, so I was just stating my thoughts like everyone else does from time to time.

My swimming coach used to have us take salt tablets during our summer training regime. They would help with stopping cramps. So, we all trotted out and bought salt tablets at the local pharmacies. Turned out he told us to STOP taking them because they were harmful to our hearts. A parent who was also a physician told him to make that announcement. There is too much sodium in those tiny pills for healthy people to be swallowing without medical approval.

I hope pickle juice drinkers are drinking their pickle juice with caution. We all know that Kate has no limits on determination, and she might think if 2 swallows is good, then 8 will be better - and do herself more harm than good.

The last thing I want is to hear that Kate hasfallen ill on this journey to be the best.

I've always sort of wondered where TLC or Kate dug Steve up at the time she said she needed a bodyguard to feel safe.

I mean, why this particular business? Is it based in NZ or America? How does a retired cop become a security guard to a VIP?

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Retired cops often go into "security" of some kind or another. It's a natural fit. Sometimes they become security guards at banks, etc., and sometimes they parlay their experience into more exotic assignments.

The address on the website is in Maryland, which is where Steve and his wife live, or lived.

Steve probably got this assignment because someone at TLC knew him, or knew of him, and realized he was a type who might have success keeping Kate in line.

TLC's interest was in protecting their financial investment in the Gosselin brand. They couldn't afford to have Kate going off on fans wherever she went.

TLC didn't need a security guard, they needed a baby sitter. Steve has done a good job at that, but it will be interesting to see what happens when the relationship, whatever it is, with Kate terminates.

Real security tends to be very low profile. Steve has been anything but. Future clients might be wary of him as a result. Maybe he can parlay this Kate fiasco into full-time work as a diva-wrangler, if his mental health can take it.

Or maybe he's making so much off Kate that he'll be able to retire (for the second time) without ever working again, in which case his "security" reputation would be of much less concern to him. This may be his final professional fling. So to speak.

I am not so sure pickle juice is such a good thing to drink before a race. My mother use to drink it when she was constipated. It use to go right through her. If Kate drinks it before the race and it works on her the way it did my mom well....... That could be messy.

One thing I failed to mention and was pretty important: I mean what if Mady and Cara read this now, at age 11? What if the tups read this in 6 years? Not someday in 20 years, someday in the immediate future.

I have often wondered the same thing. The one thing I ask myself about it is, maybe the kids are already needing an answer why Kate treats them like she does. Why does she hate Jon so much.

If by chance they do see this at a young age, which I highly doubt that because Kate controls everything they watch or get their hands on, they may finally have an answer and not blame themself anymore.

I'm a firm believer that everything happens for a reason and our job is to look for what that reason is and how we will apply or process it.

There are only two answers on how to do that. Will you learn and apply something positive and be a better person for it? Or will you apply something negitive, which will lead to a life of unhappiness and always blaming others.

As far as how will they know if they are so young? I leave that in God's hands. He knows the proper timing and will be there for help if they ask. Bottom Line.

"I am not so sure pickle juice is such a good thing to drink before a race"

I have friends who do medieval reenacting fighting. They have been drinking it for years after practice and after tournaments. It has many of the same electrolytes as Gatorade. It also helps them know if they are dehydrated. You know you are dehydrated if you drink the pickle juice and it tastes sweet.BYU did a study that shows that it can be beneficial after a work out. I have never tried it because I cant stand the taste.http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/09/phys-ed-can-pickle-juice-stop-muscle-cramps/?src=me&ref=general

I also have a friend who swears that low point beer is great after a long bike ride. There is some new research that says that it can help hydrate you after an extensive round of excursive because it contains vitamins and electrolytes. You also take in more fluid then you release due to the beer being alcoholic. (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307518,00.html)

Are either of these theories correct? i dont know. I just stick to water when I work out. I dont work out to the point that I need to add salt to my diet. I do like beer. I have been known to have one after a hard workout (3.2% alcohol by volume). I use it as a treat if I meet my fitness goal for the week and not a hydrator.

Back and forth on Kate's twitter yesterday between a "Runner, Ultra Runner, Marathoner, Athletic Trainer, Sports Medicine, Hunter, Weimaraners, Motivational Speaker, Run Coach, Marathon Maniac, RD, XC Coach" and Kate and her #1 delusional defender, Milo&Jack who pulls out the good 'ole line about Kate being a mother of 8, count 'em 8, kids as the reason to admire her:

Ultra_RnR Ryan M, ATCGood Luck to all those #Running #RNRLV @WarriorBetsy @CoachKristieLV-Please don't get beat by @Kateplusmy8 & all the over rated Celeb hype

MiloandJack Fired Up 4 Kate@Ultra_RnR @WarriorBetsy @Kateplusmy8 Just be happy she is trying 2make the finish line! From one runner 2 another that would be nice! :)

Ultra_RnR Ryan M, ATC@MiloandJack I think it is great...but why all the hype? What about the other runners who r not famous celebs? @WarriorBetsy @Kateplusmy8

@Kateplusmy8 Kate Gosselin@Ultra_RnR @MiloandJack EVERY runner is my hero- don't care @ hype! We r all in same boat!:) see u out there?:) (I'm still scared2death btw)

MiloandJack Fired Up 4 Kate@Ultra_RnR @Kateplusmy8 Hey man...thanks 4comin back&givin her that encouragement! She has been running only since late 2009....

NO ONE gives a crap that she's only been running since '09 or that she has 2 sets of multiples or that she's scared... there are many runners who have overcome real obstacles to run this race and who've taken training seriously; not blown it off like she has. Kate's B.S. reasons for running are nothing but hype and her being 'scared' is just another way to garner attention and sympathy. It's all about keeping the spotlight on herself. Ultra RnR is right - cut the hype; there are other runners who have worked hard and deserve the attention, not some washed up Z-list celeb who's made a mockery of this serious sport of real runners.

NO ONE gives a crap that she's only been running since '09 or that she has 2 sets of multiples or that she's scared... there are many runners who have overcome real obstacles to run this race and who've taken training seriously; not blown it off like she has. Kate's B.S. reasons for running are nothing but hype and her being 'scared' is just another way to garner attention and sympathy. It's all about keeping the spotlight on herself. Ultra RnR is right - cut the hype; there are other runners who have worked hard and deserve the attention, not some washed up Z-list celeb who's made a mockery of this serious sport of real runners. _____________________AMEN. And I have to add that MiloandJack, Kate's imaginary friends on Twitter, have issues and think that by attaching themselves to Kate so adamantly and over-the-top that it in some way makes them "famous"...instead, it makes them look like pathetic hangers-on with no lives.

So sick of hearing Kate and her 3 minions saying that she's doing this marathon to set an example for her kids. I doubt they give more than a passing thought about this crap; they're little kids. The bitch is such a source of chaos and misery that the kids probably prefer the neglect at this point in time.

Speaking of real obstacles, several years ago I went with my lovely roomie to go watch a local triathlon because it was her dream to train and run in one (which she did the next year). The swimming leg was in the OCEAN. Yikes!

Anyway, we saw two blind runners running alongside friends, and most inspiring of all, a Dad with his son who couldn't walk. For the swimming leg he pulled him along in a little float. For the running leg he pushed a heavy duty exercise stroller. And for the biking he pulled him along behind in those things you attach to bikes for kids. Now that's the power of human beings and determination.

Kate Cry-duh, et al.: Not to mention the people who have had to save up the money to enter this event, can only afford to stay in a modest hotel for 1 or 2 nights, etc. The primary function of this marathon for Kate is as a sop to her ginormous ego. And also as a way to justify another extended, luxury getaway for her and her consort.

Has anyone else noticed that her web site just barely has a couple of posts a week now? And that at least three of the headers are still void of content? On top of which, none of her posts to date have addressed holiday plans, which so many of her flock are thinking about. I find this so weird, the two biggest holidays in the year, especially for someone with kids, and she's barely mentioned anything about her holiday "organization" or her no doubt "original" memory-making traditions. How does a "mommy" blogger, whose fame was made as the mother of 8, manage to avoid all of these sorts of discussions?

Wonder what new "focus" she'll come up with after Xmas. I think it's a safe bet that it will be something self-serving and that involves travel for two to exotic destinations.

Katie Cry-duh said... 143So sick of hearing Kate and her 3 minions saying that she's doing this marathon to set an example for her kids. I doubt they give more than a passing thought about this crap; they're little kids.

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Yes, again we're back to the psychology of kids this age, something Kate appears to know absolutely nothing about. They DON'T care at this age. It may be good for Mady and Cara but no more than it's good watching their mother every day live an honorable life, like the video I've posted many times "Dad I'm Watching You." Same goes for mom.

She could run a local marathon, and she could show the kids through in her actions in her life that she is hard working and determined. Kids don't need to be beaten over the head with life lessons, kids will observe and digest what you are doing all on your own. And a hundred marathons is not going to make up for what kids see you do on a daily basis.

And besides, even if kids did get a lot out of it, it makes a lot more sense to run a local marathon so the kids can actually see it. Especially for little kids, it's very hard to imagine how things are unless you see it.

When will something be about what the kids are interested in, their loves and likes and things they want to do?

A Toronto Star columnist's opening paragraph to his blurb on TLC's new show, "Virgin Diaries"..."You’ve got to hand it to TLC, they know how to get our attention. Toddlers & Tiaras, Sister Wives, Sarah Palin’s Alaska, I Didn’t Know I Was Pregnant and that infamous synthesis of child exploitation and marital dysfunction, Jon & Kate Plus 8." Right On!!

I don't think her blog has any holiday content because she doesn't celebrate the holiday like her fans do and honestly can't suggest anything. Heck, she left town with her tree 1/2 decorated! If it wasn't for taping a tv show, I don't think she ever did much in the way of decorating the house for the kids for any holiday.

I also don't think her blog was ever intended to be anything other than a fleeting thought to stay in the spotlight after the show ended, never to be anything of worth or help to a fan. We predicted it would fall apart in 6 months and it didn't even take that long. She never even got it off the ground. Kate drops ideas as soon as something better comes up.

A much better example to Kate's kids would be for Kate to challenge herself educationally. Turning her 2 year certificate into a 4 year BSN and/or beyond, would be greatly significant.Even if Kate were to change to another major, watching mom actually pour over course material, would ingrain in each of her 8, a silent respect for tenacity and the "end justifying the means."

So agree that an example for all of Kate's kids would be for her to use a few of her big bags of money and go back to college. Man, if I had her money, I would. I love learning and would love to either further my degree or get another one.Yesterday, DH and I went to a Christmas parade in our home town. We saw so many kids in the parade who were in organizations, such as the city's rugby team and the Girl Scouts. The parents were right in there and it made me feel sad for the G8 in that none of them is involved in anything communal like this. They are so isolated and there's Kate, tooting her own horn, having her kids cheer HER on instead of the other way around. And her going on and on and on about eating carbs. Judas Priest. Big f'in deal, woman! Carbs are just fine in moderation and to make such a big deal over food will surely wind up in more than one of her girls having a poor and unhealthy relationship with food.

JudyK said... 141overthehill said... 139 katie kreiders feet in that red cross pic look so long that she will only have to do a couple of paces in the marathon to reach the finishing line ___________________________

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So sad that adults post garbage like this. If you are a parent or grandparent, do you encourage your children/grandchildren to make fun of the physical appearance of others? It's not wonder that so many children when adults behave like this.

I raised this in the last thread, but I think it's a significant subject with respect to Kate: Where in the world are the paps who she continually complains dog her every move?

How can she be at a big event in LV--and not keeping a low profile, all her fans know she is there, and we know she's attended some of the run-up events to today's marathon--and not one pic of her has emerged from anyone, let alone a pap? But yet she can often be photographed once or twice in the same WEEK in her home territory, twelve or more snaps at a time? If this doesn't raise questions about the "candid" photos we always see of her running errands around PA, I don't know what would.

Does anyone (well, besides miloandjack) still believe that INF/ROL is not on her speed dial? What a sham she is.

iwanainspireu@kateplusmy8 There is no one in this world who adores YOU like I do! Give me 1 more chance when U get home, Kate! P L Z ! ?

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Which, of course, is the reason that she WON'T. No woman wants a desperate, love-sick guy who has to beg. A woman's radar just kicks in, and more times than not, she knows instantly if there's chemistry. In this case, there wasn't. She didn't string him along. Too much just seems "off" there.

JudyK said... 141 overthehill said... 139 katie kreiders feet in that red cross pic look so long that she will only have to do a couple of paces in the marathon to reach the finishing line ___________________________

ROFL! Should be a snap.

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So sad that adults post garbage like this. If you are a parent or grandparent, do you encourage your children/grandchildren to make fun of the physical appearance of others? It's not wonder that so many children when adults behave like this. December 4, 2011 8:29 AM Anonymous said... 156

Make that "It's no wonder that so many children BULLY when adults behave like this." December 4, 2011 8:29 AM

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I agree, Anon. There is plenty to criticize about Kate's horrible behavior, and it is quite fair to do so. I will even go along with the criticism of her many cosmetic procedures, as those have been paid for by her children, both in dollars and emotionally. IMO, totally relevant to the discussion.

I realize that most of us who read or post here are outraged by this woman and the way she treats her vulnerable children, and it is naturally that some get carried away. There is no good excuse, though, for making fun of physical characteristics that are the natural product of genetics different from others.

Discussion is always most effective when it sticks to the point. Name-calling and bullying are digressions no one needs. If thinking about Kate drives you nuts, consider punching a pillow, it gets the aggressions out and doesn't hurt anyone. Then post and give Kate some constructive advice, or call her out on her lies so that her children will know that they weren't the crazy ones.

Bullying, after all, is what Kate does best. She's not high on my list of role models.

My own suggestions for thought, based on my opinion, not an attempt to tell others what to do. This isn't my blog, and Admin does a great job. IMO, mocking Kate for things she can't change isn't an appropriate way to treat her, or anyone else.

Why doesn't she just give full custody to Jon, so she and her little sissy ass boyfriend can travel the world together until the money runs out? Oh wait! That's what they've been doing since the show ended.How many more trips will the kids "funds" pay for before it's all gone?She's living like a rock star and there's no tomorrow.

ITA agree with you that it would be karma if Khate could have just a little taste of the runner's trots,but from the guy in front of her.That would be quite the waste of money, especially if she is vain enough to have her make-up done for the race.

Oh, my bad! If someone could only snap a picture, it might just be worth a little money.Ratclaws would really have to be quick to catch the person who snapped it, or several people.I can just see him running frantically between the runners trying to run down the culprits.He might get himself a little injury if he got in someone's way, mwaha ha ha.

"No woman wants a desperate, love-sick guy who has to beg. A woman's radar just kicks in, and more times than not, she knows instantly if there's chemistry. In this case, there wasn't. She didn't string him along. Too much just seems "off" there."

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You got that right. From his Twitter bio:

"Bio I dont know just what I should do?Everywhere I go I see YOU! I know its what U planned,this much is true.What I thought was beautiful dont live inside of YOU!"

Jon probably doesn't want custody of 8 kids. How many men would. Seriously. He likes his specified access and his new life with a woman who respects him. As much as others want him to have custody, get over it. Kate wanted all those kids and I don't think he ever did.

Well said Anonymous 156: Kate fits that very well. Kate bullied her ex-husband, she bullies: hired help, Ashley for one, other nannies, she bullied all the friends she had, she bullies service working people and bullied family. Not to mentioned that 2 of her kids got kicked out of kindergarden! for hitting a teacher and other children and being disruptive, not to mention her own kids hit one another and Kate does nothing to stop them, and the other kids, who probably have been reprimanded over the years for bad behavior and that is why Kate assigns seats on the school bus, for her kids, so they don't kill one another or anyone else. Children only learn that from their parents, first before they learn from outside the home. The 8 learned a lot from Kate, since she is the main parent they are around the most. It's all on film, all of Kates bad behavior and bullying. The apple does not fall far from the tree. So accusing us of bullying, why don't you look in the mirror, there is one person you can start with. Before the sheeple go around accusing, they should look in the mirror, also sheeple threatening people(tracking them down and calling their work places) is bullying too. Kate put herself in the media, she made that choice, when she signed on the line. If she did not want to get burned, she should have gotten out/stayed of the fire.

Where is Gosselin Give Back? said... 164 Jon probably doesn't want custody of 8 kids. How many men would. Seriously. He likes his specified access and his new life with a woman who respects him. As much as others want him to have custody, get over it. Kate wanted all those kids and I don't think he ever did. _____________________

I'm sure if Jon didn't have to worry about money he would habe no problem in doing so. One parent has to be thr grown up and one parent has to teach the 8 how to be decent humans.

And not depend on other's to pay there way with hand outs and freebies just becuse they have 8 kids.

I think Khate's next mission in life will be to grift other people or companies, tv or whoever, to send her all over the world to check out every type of lake, ocean, body of water in the world before her next miraculous feat.

This will all be in preparation for Kate 'walking on water.' Hey fools and twit buddies, any takers?

Not only does she NEED the kids for her identity, she truly thinks she's the best mother in the world, and then there is her irrational hatred of the ex-husband SHE tossed to the curb. Crazy much?

What will happen in Vegas will not stay in Vegas, but that is how she likes it, there is nothng real, deep or likeable about this woman. And then on to the next quasi-adventure, while her children are being raised by babysitters on a 50/50 split.

So accusing us of bullying, why don't you look in the mirror, there is one person you can start with. Before the sheeple go around accusing, they should look in the mirror, also sheeple threatening people(tracking them down and calling their work places) is bullying too. Kate put herself in the media, she made that choice, when she signed on the line. If she did not want to get burned, she should have gotten out/stayed of the fire.

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What she didn't put on the line is her big toe, cankles, or mis-aligned jaw. I think that the point is being missed here. Just because the sheeple bully, it's okay for everyone else to bully? Tit for tat? I would think that if one looked at the sheeple, one could see how very wrong and immature this is, and then learn from it. The subject was making fun of her physical defects which, I agree, is offensive. Kate does enough to warrant criticism without calling attention to her fat hands, giant toes, or whatever. What really gets my goat is the reference to her wonky eye - "it's still there...why doesn't she get it straightened out while she's fixing her face," etc. etc. She can't help it! We teach our kids not to make fun of what physical defects others were born with, and then adults do the same thing. What is this teaching our children? Do as I say, not as I do?

The "haters" on Twitter are a prime example of what not to do as mature adults and parents. What do they get from it? Why hang on Twitter round the clock and not only berate Kate, but any person who happens to pop up there and offer a benign "I'm a fan, Kate" greeting. It's disgusting to see how low these haters can sink. On cannot imagine that many of these are professional people - the language that comes out of their mouths speaks volumes. Are they like that in "real life" or is this their way of venting behind closed doors on the internet? The slams they take, not only at Kate, but at each other is unwarranted. It's as though they are adults caught in a teen or pre-teen world, and have to lash out in order to rid themselves of some inner hostility.

What does this solve? What good can come out of it? This bullying of each other is the hobgoblin of little minds.

Admin #144 - you just reminded me of Rick and Dick Hoyt, who have been running the Boston Marathon for YEARS. Dick is over 60 years old; his son Rick has severe CP (I think that's what it is) and at least one college degree and a full-time job, last I heard. Dick pulls Rick in some kind of contraption, and it's always a thrill to see them coming through.

There are only a scant few who still insist on snarking about things Kate can't help. The vast majority don't. I could go through and try to find the one rogue comment, or just ask those one or two not to do it which is easier. People who bully on twitter were banned from here a long time ago. I appreciate the vast majority for keeping it clean.

When will something be about what the kids are interested in, their loves and likes and things they want to do?

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Apparently, never. Sad, isn't it? Khate is the only mother, or parent actually, that I have ever seen constantly talk only about herself and HER goals and ambitions, and that her kids are proud of HER. Most parents delight in helping, watching, and cheering their kids on as they find their own passions in life and pursue their own interests. A parent should be the child's biggest cheerleader - throughout life. Khate has it so backwards, it's just sad. One day the kids will get out of her bubble and realize that's not how life is supposed to be.

JudyK said... 141overthehill said... 139katie kreiders feet in that red cross pic look so long that she will only have to do a couple of paces in the marathon to reach the finishing line___________________________

ROFL! Should be a snap.

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So sad that adults post garbage like this. If you are a parent or grandparent, do you encourage your children/grandchildren to make fun of the physical appearance of others? It's not wonder that so many children when adults behave like this.December 4, 2011 8:29 AM Anonymous said... 156

Make that "It's no wonder that so many children BULLY when adults behave like this."December 4, 2011 8:29 AM

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I agree, Anon. There is plenty to criticize about Kate's horrible behavior, and it is quite fair to do so. I will even go along with the criticism of her many cosmetic procedures, as those have been paid for by her children, both in dollars and emotionally. IMO, totally relevant to the discussion.

I realize that most of us who read or post here are outraged by this woman and the way she treats her vulnerable children, and it is naturally that some get carried away. There is no good excuse, though, for making fun of physical characteristics that are the natural product of genetics different from others.

Discussion is always most effective when it sticks to the point. Name-calling and bullying are digressions no one needs. If thinking about Kate drives you nuts, consider punching a pillow, it gets the aggressions out and doesn't hurt anyone. Then post and give Kate some constructive advice, or call her out on her lies so that her children will know that they weren't the crazy ones.

Bullying, after all, is what Kate does best. She's not high on my list of role models.

My own suggestions for thought, based on my opinion, not an attempt to tell others what to do. This isn't my blog, and Admin does a great job. IMO, mocking Kate for things she can't change isn't an appropriate way to treat her, or anyone else. __________________________

And to this, I say GIMME A BREAK!!! I did NOT write this, only laughed at it, and I can tell you that I am one of the kindest people in the world who would NEVER make fun of someone for something they can't help. My brother was born with a cleft palate before surgery helped, and to this day, he has no division in his upper lip, and I defended him as a child against mean kids. When I was young woman and at the mall, a heavy-set girl was in front of me and three girls walked by and made fun of her...I ripped them a new one. In the picture referred to, Kate put herself out there by being stretched out in a blanket with her painted toes pointed in a seductive pose...I hardly think the poster's remark was worthy of being called "bullying"...let's not go over the top on being politically correct. And, for the record, I think Kate is physically gorgeous...it's just her insides that are rotten. ENOUGH.

I was looking at the website for the Las Vegas Marathon. Wow, there sure are a lot of things going on all weekend. Makes me wish I were a runner. It would be neat to see Cheap Trick and Casey Abrams in concert and attend some of the parties. I was surprised at how cold it is there right now. Brrrr.

Gramof5, I received my comforters. They're really nice. I'm sure my nephews will like them. I also registered them at their website so maybe I'll win something from their quarterly drawings. Thanks again for the tip.

I took the opportunity to look up Dick and Rick Hoyt after amyf said... 173 mentioned them. They must also be the father/son that Admin saw while observing a triathlon. Check out their website. So VERY inspiring!http://www.teamhoyt.com/index.html

Well, I see Walt/Kelly has popped up again on Twitter under a pseudonym making fun of Iwana. The tags are there. I guess my question is, "why?" I would think that if someone is going to do this, he/she would at least disguise the writing style. Or, maybe he/she doesn't want to!

If that new account is Walt, it hardly matters because the SHEEPLE have been making several new accounts every day for a long time now. They swear at and bully the non-fans from those accounts, leaving Khate's twitter name out of it so she doesn't see it, because they are the biggest cowards and bullies ever. They use their other accounts to tweet sweet nothings and platitudes to Khate, and they cry about being victims of bullies while THEY are the worst ones. And if you didn't know it already, the sheeple (in their fake accounts) also threaten the non-fans and I don't see the non-fans threatening the sheeple.

Where is Gosselin Give Back? said... 164Jon probably doesn't want custody of 8 kids. How many men would. Seriously. He likes his specified access and his new life with a woman who respects him. As much as others want him to have custody, get over it. Kate wanted all those kids and I don't think he ever did.

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I don't think Jon wanted any more children when Kate convinced him to let her try for "just one more" but I think he loves the sextuplets very much. However, I also think it's true that he does not want custody of the children full-time. He appears very content having reset his life back to his college years and playing house with his girlfriend and her little doggies, watching movies and tweeting "I love yous" to each other.

My hope is that he has involvement in their lives at school that we don't see.

It makes me angry that, knowing how awful Kate is, Jon left them there with her and made some really bad choices which then led to her basically getting all the control when it comes to the kids. He should have stuck it out until he could have had the upper hand, or at least wouldn't have looked like such a douchebag and the courts would have taken him more seriously.

Wouldn't it have been funny if he'd sucked up to TLC and sold them on the concept of Jon+8? He could have done it just long enough to get her out of the picture and then stopped filming!

What I object to most about Kate running a marathon is her bizarre need to make people believe she is doing this without special preparation, planning, training, etc. It is dangerous to your heart to just enter a marathon based on desire to cross the finish line, that is what kills people. Kate is in no risk of failing. She has followed the text book marathon schedule, running for a year outdoors to condition her body, adding miles to get her feet used to the demand, going up to 20 miles and then backing off to rest her body, fueling up on fig newtons on the longer runs - she has done it all, and safely, and for her to joke about how scared she is, how unprepared she feels, it is shameful behaviour. She should try being a true ambassador of the sport and get people running safely, fully aware she did.

Bubbles said... 184 Where is Gosselin Give Back? said... 164Jon probably doesn't want custody of 8 kids. How many men would. Seriously. He likes his specified access and his new life with a woman who respects him. As much as others want him to have custody, get over it. Kate wanted all those kids and I don't think he ever did.

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I don't think Jon wanted any more children when Kate convinced him to let her try for "just one more" but I think he loves the sextuplets very much. -----------

Kate did exactly what she wanted to get multiplies and become famous. She orchestrated the whole thing, and guilted Jon into not doing selective reduction. I am not for or against this, but we all know what Kate wants, Kate gets.

175 and 146- I could not agree more. Most of us want the best for the kids, so it is disgusting and alarming that she never puts the kids' interests first, as well as their childhood development, and the things that really matter in raising kids, and acknowledging their interests.

It will always about Kate's interests, and she is too self-absorbed to try to make her children's lives well-rounded and let them participate in sports, gymnastics, etc... after the many many hours these kids have filmed to make her very very rich. All about Kate and always will be.

While I do not care for Kate and think she is selfish, I don't do the twitter stuff. Not sure about any of the "Hater stuff" going on, but I honestly think it will not make one bit of difference in any outcome for the kids. So not sure how this is helpful. By now, most people are aware, Kate is all about Kate.

And if you didn't know it already, the sheeple (in their fake accounts) also threaten the non-fans and I don't see the non-fans threatening the sheeple.

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Maybe not threatening in the sense that "I'm going to hunt you down, tell your employer and your family, your kids' teachers" etc., but the remarks made to them and about them (and to Kate) are dispicable...in my opinion, just as bad as threatening. Calling other women child molesters and perverts, hoping that Kate will s**t herself and posting a photo of a runner with an attack of "the runs", saying this will be Kate at the marathon, all Kate wanting is Steve's yogurt in her throat, calling a fan a fat, balding blonde who looks like a troll living under a bridge, allegedly sending worms to shut down fans blog sites, hardly is the kind of language and actions that any adult, mature person who is a parent or grandparent would use, regardless if it comes from a non-fan or a sheeple. Is this their entertainment, a new-found hobby?

Speaking of "the runs," Kate tweeted that she's eating a blueberry scone, apple muffin and mac and cheese. If you're not used to eating those foods, couldn't they run right through you and clean you out within 12 hours?

overthehill said... 189 kate put a pic on twitter of a cake she has bought for the kids at home.it says on the cake Go Mummy

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Really, when has it ever NOT been about her? With the cancellation of the show,and after she used her kids for a better part of their lives, she should be home doing everything SHE can to make THEIR lives better. After filming them non-stop and has made HUGE amount of money off of them. When does it stop being about her? Rhetorical of course.

Her mantra was it is all about supporting her kids, but it is actually the opposite. She could clearly support her kids off the millions they have made her, or get a job. She chooses not to as she thinks she it too good for a job, unless she is on camera. The CC gig is a hold over job, until she figures out how to get herself or her and her kids back on TV. She really is a piece of work, although I doubt anyone wants Kate or her kids back on film, and Jon will never consent to it. Go it alone Kate, no one wants to film YOU!

Kart will probably tweet how the kids were home having a party eating her cake, holding up signs and cheering for her while she ran the marathon. By the time the race starts in LV, the kids will be going to sleep.

The best reality T.V. show right now is actually a podcast you listen to. This true crime story of a 1999 murder is so addicting it has people calling in late to work Thursday morning when new episodes come out. After listening to the first few episodes you'll understand why it's the most-downloaded podcast of the year. Did Adnan kill Hae? You decide.