i've never been able to consistenly inject shoulders because it has always ruined my workouts for chest back or shoulders...so i only rotate quads and glutes...hasn't been a problem since I only use enanthate as an injectible for the most part

12-20-2006, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom 185

i've never been able to consistenly inject shoulders because it has always ruined my workouts for chest back or shoulders...so i only rotate quads and glutes...hasn't been a problem since I only use enanthate as an injectible for the most part

I am used to the normal pain from the delt injects but this is something else. Normaly I get a sorness that I can handle but this is like a stinging pain. It seems to be going away though so that is a good thing. Probly get my workout in tomorrow.

Ok so today my shoulder feels better, that's a good thing. So I did my pull day today.

pullups 14 - 12 - 10

powercleans
240 x 4
240 x 6
240 x 5

yates rows
240 x 6
240 x 6
240 x 6

Bent over rows
200 x 6
200 x 6
200 x 6

curls
115 x 6
115 x 8
115 x 7

deads
415 x 6
415 x 6
415 x 4 grip gave out

12-31-2006, 10:06 PM

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I skipped a week of workouts for christmas. So today I got back at it and did a push day. A pretty good workout today my numbers are all holding steady exept my poor incline presses disgusted me so I droped down to the 80s agin for two sets.

nice lifts all around! Are you noticing bloat or dryness? How's the EQ effects in your opinion?

12-31-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pistonpump

nice lifts all around! Are you noticing bloat or dryness? How's the EQ effects in your opinion?

Yea the EQ is not really making me more hungry wich is something I was looking for from it. All in all I am not really sure if the EQ was worth it for me right now. There are no bad sides from it really but hard to tell if there is any good coming from it as well.
As far as bloat goes I don't think I am bloated but I don't know. Are you supposed to feel bloated or is it just the way you look?

my weight is at about 235 right now, so I Might just see 240 by the time it's all said and done. Time will tell.

Yea the EQ is not really making me more hungry wich is something I was looking for from it. All in all I am not really sure if the EQ was worth it for me right now. There are no bad sides from it really but hard to tell if there is any good coming from it as well.
As far as bloat goes I don't think I am bloated but I don't know. Are you supposed to feel bloated or is it just the way you look?

my weight is at about 235 right now, so I Might just see 240 by the time it's all said and done. Time will tell.

Yeah Im feeling the same about EQ now. I think it gives you good pumps but noticing much else really.

I always thought bloat was seen, you can see it in your midsection or for some the face. Just feels like you are holding water....

01-01-2007, 01:07 AM

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Probly no bloat then I know for sure my face has not changed.

01-04-2007, 10:05 PM

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pull day.

pullups 13-10-11

powercleans 240 x 4
240 x 6
240 x 5

yates row
240 x 6
240 x 6
240 x 6

bentover row
200 x 6
200 x 6
200 x 6

curls
115 x 7
115 x 8
115 x 6

deads
415 x 6
415 x 6
465 x 1

01-08-2007, 09:05 PM

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Today I had a weaker workout than I hoped for. I felt weaker on bench press. I couldn't do incline DB presses today since one of my clips was weak and gave out on me dropping the 50lb plate on the ground, I was very lucky it didn't land on my head.

bench
315 x 4
315 x 4
315 x 3
294 x 4

military
165 x 7
165 x 5
165 x 4
165 x 3

close grip bench
165 x 6
165 x 6
165 x 6

skull crusher
95 x 6
95 x 6

01-10-2007, 08:43 PM

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pull day. I had a good workout today. I got ever so close to deadlifting 485, I just barley missed lockout partially because my grip was giving out.

pullups 13-10-10

powerclean

240 x 4
240 x 5
240 x 4

yates row

240 x 6
240 x 6
240 x 6

bentover row

200 x 6
200 x 6
200 x 6

curls

115 x 6
115 x 6
115 x 6

deads

415 x 6
415 x 6
485 x 0 missed

01-14-2007, 08:43 PM

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push day.

bench

315 x 4
315 x 4
315 x 3
295 x 4

military

165 x 7
165 x 6
165 x 6
165 x 4

close grip bench

165 x 6
165 x 6
165 x 6

skull crusher

95 x 7
95 x 6

01-15-2007, 06:56 PM

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I weighed in at 240 today! that's the good news.

now here is the bad news, I got a case of gyno in my nip. Got a little lump I have beeen taking 60mg nolva each day but that is not helping I will have letro soon and I will begine taking that as well.

I am sort of puzzled at how my bodyweight is going up but my lifts are staying the same and I don't think I am gainning fat either.

now here is the bad news, I got a case of gyno in my nip. Got a little lump I have beeen taking 60mg nolva each day but that is not helping I will have letro soon and I will begine taking that as well.

I am sort of puzzled at how my bodyweight is going up but my lifts are staying the same and I don't think I am gainning fat either.

i puzzled by weight as well. Im gaining strength and look like ive gained 10lbs but I havent gained much at all my whole cycle. I think its because i keep track of macros mentally not on fitday or anything so maybe my estimations are inaccurate.

FYI, I had gyno flares too and im really prone, tried nolva even at 80mg ed and still nothing. Went with some prolactin control, vitamin b6, vitex, and switched to Raloxifene and its alot better now although not totally gone. Just an idea. I squeezed my nipple out of curiousity and noticed some liquid so i went the prolactin route rather than estrogen. I wish i gained as much weight as you have tho' good job!

btw, how much water and calories do you take in on average?

01-16-2007, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CryingEmo

Lookin' good.

Have your upper body lifts been stagnating at all?

Yea the lifts are stagnating. I'm not to sure what to do about it. I guess I could try eating more, I dunno.

01-16-2007, 03:49 PM

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As far as my water and cals, well I don't keep track of cals exactly I just try to eat alot and stay full all the time. Water I drink about 4 glasses at least a day.

Bane and Piston,
What do you guys think of EQ now that you have ran it? Is it worth it? Will you use it again?

01-16-2007, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MattHines

Bane and Piston,
What do you guys think of EQ now that you have ran it? Is it worth it? Will you use it again?

I would say for me I didn't seem to respond well to it. I will probly not run EQ again, in the future I will probly try some tren for my next cycle since it seems like everyone loves tren. That is if I can get rid of the lump in my nip. If I can't get rid of the lump I may just have to go natty from here on out since it really wouldn't be worth it to have to get surgery that costs like $5000.

I would say for me I didn't seem to respond well to it. I will probly not run EQ again, in the future I will probly try some tren for my next cycle since it seems like everyone loves tren. That is if I can get rid of the lump in my nip. If I can't get rid of the lump I may just have to go natty from here on out since it really wouldn't be worth it to have to get surgery that costs like $5000.

Good luck with the gyno. Yes, Tren does seem to be the king of all anabolic steroids according to anyone who has been using for long enough.

Im just finishing up my first injectable cycle and pure test wasnt enough for me. I'm gonna run a little over a gram next time after I take a good while off and I'm debating on what to use.

Tren gives the best gains but it also has the most sides and prolactin becomes an issue. I was thinking of running a long ester Test, jumpstarting with an oral and then running 6 weeks of Tren A to try it out. I'm also thinking about doing the classic bulker--Test/Deca/Dbol. I cant decide.

Ive read enough to decide that EQ isnt what I want. Its just too weak. Perhaps it would be a good addition to a cutter cycle or even to a bulker cycle--Test/Deca/EQ but Test/EQ seems to be real weak.