The mother of Tyrell Matthews-Burton is facing having to raise thousands of pounds to be able to access basic information about her son's murder, according to MP

MP Stella Creasy has criticised the Foreign Office for not doing enough for the families of murder victims abroad.

Yesterday, the MP for Walthamstow joined the family of murdered Leyton teenager Tyrell Matthews-Burton at a vigil outside the Greek Embassy in London.

After meeting with his family, on what would have been his 20th birthday exactly one year after he was stabbed to death in Malia, Greece, Miss Creasy said she was frustrated that his family has to raise thousands of pounds just to access information about the trial.

The Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process.

To date the legal fees have been estimated at £15,000. Victim Support have agreed to make a contribution of £7,500 for Sharon Matthews, Tyrells mother, which means she will have to raise the rest ahead of a trial likely in September 2014.

Miss Creasy said Sharon Matthews is a hard working, single mother who should not have the added stress of fundraising for access to a murder trial.

“Victim Support has kindly offered to pay half her fees, but that means without additional public support they have to raise thousands of pounds to find out even when the trial is or if anyone is being prosecuted," she added.

“If this was happened here in the UK to another British citizen we’d be furious at the possibility justice was being denied due to a lack of funds.”

Ms Creasy also asked the people of Waltham Forest to remember Mr Matthews-Burton.

She said: “Tyrell was a bright young man from Walthamstow with a great future before him who was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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“One year on we are struggling to try to make sure justice can be done for a grieving mother is compounding the sense of distress and bewilderment felt at the loss of Tyrell.”

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The mother of Tyrell Matthews-Burton is facing having to raise thousands of pounds to be able to access basic information about her son's murder, according to MP

Villagecranberry says...10:36am Thu 24 Jul 14

Ms Creasy also asked the people of Waltham Forest to remember Mr Matthews-Burton. She said: “Tyrell was a bright young man from Walthamstow with a great future before him who was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Stella Creasy is jumping the gun by pre-judging a case before the trial has even started and the evidence heard. It is right for her to support a constituent but she should tread carefully as once again her nativity and lack of experience is apparent. As regards these legal expenses, how necessary is it for this information to be disclosed now when it will obviously be aired at the trial? This tragic event occurred on foreign soil and the laws of that land must be respected, even by MPs.

Ms Creasy also asked the people of Waltham Forest to remember Mr Matthews-Burton.
She said: “Tyrell was a bright young man from Walthamstow with a great future before him who was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Stella Creasy is jumping the gun by pre-judging a case before the trial has even started and the evidence heard. It is right for her to support a constituent but she should tread carefully as once again her nativity and lack of experience is apparent.
As regards these legal expenses, how necessary is it for this information to be disclosed now when it will obviously be aired at the trial?
This tragic event occurred on foreign soil and the laws of that land must be respected, even by MPs.Villagecranberry

Ms Creasy also asked the people of Waltham Forest to remember Mr Matthews-Burton. She said: “Tyrell was a bright young man from Walthamstow with a great future before him who was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Stella Creasy is jumping the gun by pre-judging a case before the trial has even started and the evidence heard. It is right for her to support a constituent but she should tread carefully as once again her nativity and lack of experience is apparent. As regards these legal expenses, how necessary is it for this information to be disclosed now when it will obviously be aired at the trial? This tragic event occurred on foreign soil and the laws of that land must be respected, even by MPs.

Score: -7

tjm01 says...11:51am Thu 24 Jul 14

Villagecranberry wrote…

Ms Creasy also asked the people of Waltham Forest to remember Mr Matthews-Burton. She said: “Tyrell was a bright young man from Walthamstow with a great future before him who was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Stella Creasy is jumping the gun by pre-judging a case before the trial has even started and the evidence heard. It is right for her to support a constituent but she should tread carefully as once again her nativity and lack of experience is apparent. As regards these legal expenses, how necessary is it for this information to be disclosed now when it will obviously be aired at the trial? This tragic event occurred on foreign soil and the laws of that land must be respected, even by MPs.

Stella Creasy is not jumping the gun and is not pre-judging the case, she is simply supporting a grieving mother who wants justice for her son, who understandably, is frightened that she may not have the finances to ensure this happens Your lack of respect towards both Stella Creasy and the agonising pain Sharon Matthews must be experiencing is appaling to say the least

[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote:
Ms Creasy also asked the people of Waltham Forest to remember Mr Matthews-Burton. She said: “Tyrell was a bright young man from Walthamstow with a great future before him who was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Stella Creasy is jumping the gun by pre-judging a case before the trial has even started and the evidence heard. It is right for her to support a constituent but she should tread carefully as once again her nativity and lack of experience is apparent. As regards these legal expenses, how necessary is it for this information to be disclosed now when it will obviously be aired at the trial? This tragic event occurred on foreign soil and the laws of that land must be respected, even by MPs.[/p][/quote]Stella Creasy is not jumping the gun and is not pre-judging the case, she is simply supporting a grieving mother who wants justice for her son, who understandably, is frightened that she may not have the finances to ensure this happens
Your lack of respect towards both Stella Creasy and the agonising pain Sharon Matthews must be experiencing is appaling to say the leasttjm01

Villagecranberry wrote…

Ms Creasy also asked the people of Waltham Forest to remember Mr Matthews-Burton. She said: “Tyrell was a bright young man from Walthamstow with a great future before him who was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Stella Creasy is jumping the gun by pre-judging a case before the trial has even started and the evidence heard. It is right for her to support a constituent but she should tread carefully as once again her nativity and lack of experience is apparent. As regards these legal expenses, how necessary is it for this information to be disclosed now when it will obviously be aired at the trial? This tragic event occurred on foreign soil and the laws of that land must be respected, even by MPs.

Stella Creasy is not jumping the gun and is not pre-judging the case, she is simply supporting a grieving mother who wants justice for her son, who understandably, is frightened that she may not have the finances to ensure this happens Your lack of respect towards both Stella Creasy and the agonising pain Sharon Matthews must be experiencing is appaling to say the least

Score: 15

Villagecranberry says...12:18pm Thu 24 Jul 14

tjm01 wrote…

Villagecranberry wrote…

Ms Creasy also asked the people of Waltham Forest to remember Mr Matthews-Burton. She said: “Tyrell was a bright young man from Walthamstow with a great future before him who was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Stella Creasy is jumping the gun by pre-judging a case before the trial has even started and the evidence heard. It is right for her to support a constituent but she should tread carefully as once again her nativity and lack of experience is apparent. As regards these legal expenses, how necessary is it for this information to be disclosed now when it will obviously be aired at the trial? This tragic event occurred on foreign soil and the laws of that land must be respected, even by MPs.

Stella Creasy is not jumping the gun and is not pre-judging the case, she is simply supporting a grieving mother who wants justice for her son, who understandably, is frightened that she may not have the finances to ensure this happens Your lack of respect towards both Stella Creasy and the agonising pain Sharon Matthews must be experiencing is appaling to say the least

Where is any suggestion that the Greek Authorities will not ensure justice is done? Give them a chance at least. The justice is not dependent on finance. They are applying for documentation for some reason. All evidence will be aired in court in due process.

[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote:
Ms Creasy also asked the people of Waltham Forest to remember Mr Matthews-Burton. She said: “Tyrell was a bright young man from Walthamstow with a great future before him who was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Stella Creasy is jumping the gun by pre-judging a case before the trial has even started and the evidence heard. It is right for her to support a constituent but she should tread carefully as once again her nativity and lack of experience is apparent. As regards these legal expenses, how necessary is it for this information to be disclosed now when it will obviously be aired at the trial? This tragic event occurred on foreign soil and the laws of that land must be respected, even by MPs.[/p][/quote]Stella Creasy is not jumping the gun and is not pre-judging the case, she is simply supporting a grieving mother who wants justice for her son, who understandably, is frightened that she may not have the finances to ensure this happens
Your lack of respect towards both Stella Creasy and the agonising pain Sharon Matthews must be experiencing is appaling to say the least[/p][/quote]Where is any suggestion that the Greek Authorities will not ensure justice is done? Give them a chance at least.
The justice is not dependent on finance. They are applying for documentation for some reason. All evidence will be aired in court in due process.Villagecranberry

tjm01 wrote…

Villagecranberry wrote…

Ms Creasy also asked the people of Waltham Forest to remember Mr Matthews-Burton. She said: “Tyrell was a bright young man from Walthamstow with a great future before him who was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. Stella Creasy is jumping the gun by pre-judging a case before the trial has even started and the evidence heard. It is right for her to support a constituent but she should tread carefully as once again her nativity and lack of experience is apparent. As regards these legal expenses, how necessary is it for this information to be disclosed now when it will obviously be aired at the trial? This tragic event occurred on foreign soil and the laws of that land must be respected, even by MPs.

Stella Creasy is not jumping the gun and is not pre-judging the case, she is simply supporting a grieving mother who wants justice for her son, who understandably, is frightened that she may not have the finances to ensure this happens Your lack of respect towards both Stella Creasy and the agonising pain Sharon Matthews must be experiencing is appaling to say the least

Where is any suggestion that the Greek Authorities will not ensure justice is done? Give them a chance at least. The justice is not dependent on finance. They are applying for documentation for some reason. All evidence will be aired in court in due process.

Score: -9

tjm01 says...12:33pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Read the article it says "The Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process", without which the prosecution lawers may not be able to present all the evidence,and in order to obtain this information there is a cost attached, so you see justice is dependent on finance, your stupidity knows no bounds P.S Just so that I know are you now an expert on Greek law

Read the article it says "The Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process", without which the prosecution lawers may not be able to present all the evidence,and in order to obtain this information there is a cost attached, so you see justice is dependent on finance, your stupidity knows no bounds
P.S Just so that I know are you now an expert on Greek lawtjm01

Read the article it says "The Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process", without which the prosecution lawers may not be able to present all the evidence,and in order to obtain this information there is a cost attached, so you see justice is dependent on finance, your stupidity knows no bounds P.S Just so that I know are you now an expert on Greek law

Score: 16

TonyO1 says...2:16pm Thu 24 Jul 14

Typical nonsense from socialist and EU apologist Stella Creasy. I do not believe the taxpayer should or would support funding this families legal fees for information about their sons death in a foreign EU country. That should be an obligation on its part, not ours. The fact that it has not, are a matter for foreign office to deal with.

Typical nonsense from socialist and EU apologist Stella Creasy. I do not believe the taxpayer should or would support funding this families legal fees for information about their sons death in a foreign EU country. That should be an obligation on its part, not ours. The fact that it has not, are a matter for foreign office to deal with.TonyO1

Typical nonsense from socialist and EU apologist Stella Creasy. I do not believe the taxpayer should or would support funding this families legal fees for information about their sons death in a foreign EU country. That should be an obligation on its part, not ours. The fact that it has not, are a matter for foreign office to deal with.

Score: -6

Villagecranberry says...3:21pm Thu 24 Jul 14

tjm01 wrote…

Read the article it says "The Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process", without which the prosecution lawers may not be able to present all the evidence,and in order to obtain this information there is a cost attached, so you see justice is dependent on finance, your stupidity knows no bounds P.S Just so that I know are you now an expert on Greek law

The report is factually incorrect. There is no obligation for the victims to raise such money, have such would be an injustice. Greece does not have the generous Legal Aid system like the UK for a start.

[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote:
Read the article it says "The Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process", without which the prosecution lawers may not be able to present all the evidence,and in order to obtain this information there is a cost attached, so you see justice is dependent on finance, your stupidity knows no bounds
P.S Just so that I know are you now an expert on Greek law[/p][/quote]The report is factually incorrect.
There is no obligation for the victims to raise such money, have such would be an injustice. Greece does not have the generous Legal Aid system like the UK for a start.Villagecranberry

tjm01 wrote…

Read the article it says "The Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process", without which the prosecution lawers may not be able to present all the evidence,and in order to obtain this information there is a cost attached, so you see justice is dependent on finance, your stupidity knows no bounds P.S Just so that I know are you now an expert on Greek law

The report is factually incorrect. There is no obligation for the victims to raise such money, have such would be an injustice. Greece does not have the generous Legal Aid system like the UK for a start.

Score: -4

tjm01 says...6:06am Fri 25 Jul 14

If the Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process there will be a cost attached to this, Sharon Matthews will have to cover any such costs and my guess is that at present Sharon may not be able to raise the finances, that being the case, and as you say "Greece does not have the generous Legal Aid system like the UK" Justice may well be dependent on finance P.S and I ask again are you now an expert on Greek law ???

If the Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process there will be a cost attached to this, Sharon Matthews will have to cover any such costs and my guess is that at present Sharon may not be able to raise the finances, that being the case, and as you say "Greece does not have the generous Legal Aid system like the UK" Justice may well be dependent on finance
P.S and I ask again are you now an expert on Greek law ???tjm01

If the Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process there will be a cost attached to this, Sharon Matthews will have to cover any such costs and my guess is that at present Sharon may not be able to raise the finances, that being the case, and as you say "Greece does not have the generous Legal Aid system like the UK" Justice may well be dependent on finance P.S and I ask again are you now an expert on Greek law ???

Score: 8

Villagecranberry says...10:10am Fri 25 Jul 14

tjm01 wrote…

If the Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process there will be a cost attached to this, Sharon Matthews will have to cover any such costs and my guess is that at present Sharon may not be able to raise the finances, that being the case, and as you say "Greece does not have the generous Legal Aid system like the UK" Justice may well be dependent on finance P.S and I ask again are you now an expert on Greek law ???

And I again say the report is factually incorrect.

[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote:
If the Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process there will be a cost attached to this, Sharon Matthews will have to cover any such costs and my guess is that at present Sharon may not be able to raise the finances, that being the case, and as you say "Greece does not have the generous Legal Aid system like the UK" Justice may well be dependent on finance
P.S and I ask again are you now an expert on Greek law ???[/p][/quote]And I again say the report is factually incorrect.Villagecranberry

tjm01 wrote…

If the Greek legal system requires all parties to have a legal representative to secure information, including details of any charges, trial dates or participation in the process there will be a cost attached to this, Sharon Matthews will have to cover any such costs and my guess is that at present Sharon may not be able to raise the finances, that being the case, and as you say "Greece does not have the generous Legal Aid system like the UK" Justice may well be dependent on finance P.S and I ask again are you now an expert on Greek law ???

And I again say the report is factually incorrect.

Score: -3

tjm01 says...2:52pm Fri 25 Jul 14

The report may or may not be factually incorrect,however this does not change the fact that Sharon Matthews will at sometime have to raise the funds to pay for legal representation wheather this is to secure documents, information, or preperation for the trial it will still have a cost attached to it, if for what ever reason Sharon Matthews can not raise sufficent funds to cover these and/or any other costs associated with the trial she will without doubt be at a disadvantage, any such disadvantage may have a negative effect on the outcome of the trial, if however the funds become avalible, Sharon Matthews legal people will be able to present a much better case, so you see Justice may well be dependent on finance Now go away!!!

The report may or may not be factually incorrect,however this does not change the fact that Sharon Matthews will at sometime have to raise the funds to pay for legal representation wheather this is to secure documents, information, or preperation for the trial it will still have a cost attached to it, if for what ever reason Sharon Matthews can not raise sufficent funds to cover these and/or any other costs associated with the trial she will without doubt be at a disadvantage, any such disadvantage may have a negative effect on the outcome of the trial, if however the funds become avalible, Sharon Matthews legal people will be able to present a much better case, so you see Justice may well be dependent on finance
Now go away!!!tjm01

The report may or may not be factually incorrect,however this does not change the fact that Sharon Matthews will at sometime have to raise the funds to pay for legal representation wheather this is to secure documents, information, or preperation for the trial it will still have a cost attached to it, if for what ever reason Sharon Matthews can not raise sufficent funds to cover these and/or any other costs associated with the trial she will without doubt be at a disadvantage, any such disadvantage may have a negative effect on the outcome of the trial, if however the funds become avalible, Sharon Matthews legal people will be able to present a much better case, so you see Justice may well be dependent on finance Now go away!!!

Score: 7

Villagecranberry says...10:31pm Fri 25 Jul 14

tjm01 wrote…

The report may or may not be factually incorrect,however this does not change the fact that Sharon Matthews will at sometime have to raise the funds to pay for legal representation wheather this is to secure documents, information, or preperation for the trial it will still have a cost attached to it, if for what ever reason Sharon Matthews can not raise sufficent funds to cover these and/or any other costs associated with the trial she will without doubt be at a disadvantage, any such disadvantage may have a negative effect on the outcome of the trial, if however the funds become avalible, Sharon Matthews legal people will be able to present a much better case, so you see Justice may well be dependent on finance Now go away!!!

Because the report is factually incorrect, she does not have to raise funds to achieve justice. He 'defence team' are asking for information ahead of the trial, which like in the any legal situation involves costs. In this case, unnecessary costs. She will achieve the same conclusion whether or not she receives this documentation. This has no bearing on the trial.

[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote:
The report may or may not be factually incorrect,however this does not change the fact that Sharon Matthews will at sometime have to raise the funds to pay for legal representation wheather this is to secure documents, information, or preperation for the trial it will still have a cost attached to it, if for what ever reason Sharon Matthews can not raise sufficent funds to cover these and/or any other costs associated with the trial she will without doubt be at a disadvantage, any such disadvantage may have a negative effect on the outcome of the trial, if however the funds become avalible, Sharon Matthews legal people will be able to present a much better case, so you see Justice may well be dependent on finance
Now go away!!![/p][/quote]Because the report is factually incorrect, she does not have to raise funds to achieve justice.
He 'defence team' are asking for information ahead of the trial, which like in the any legal situation involves costs. In this case, unnecessary costs.
She will achieve the same conclusion whether or not she receives this documentation.
This has no bearing on the trial.Villagecranberry

tjm01 wrote…

The report may or may not be factually incorrect,however this does not change the fact that Sharon Matthews will at sometime have to raise the funds to pay for legal representation wheather this is to secure documents, information, or preperation for the trial it will still have a cost attached to it, if for what ever reason Sharon Matthews can not raise sufficent funds to cover these and/or any other costs associated with the trial she will without doubt be at a disadvantage, any such disadvantage may have a negative effect on the outcome of the trial, if however the funds become avalible, Sharon Matthews legal people will be able to present a much better case, so you see Justice may well be dependent on finance Now go away!!!

Because the report is factually incorrect, she does not have to raise funds to achieve justice. He 'defence team' are asking for information ahead of the trial, which like in the any legal situation involves costs. In this case, unnecessary costs. She will achieve the same conclusion whether or not she receives this documentation. This has no bearing on the trial.

Score: 3

tjm01 says...1:08pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Villagecranberry wrote…

tjm01 wrote…

The report may or may not be factually incorrect,however this does not change the fact that Sharon Matthews will at sometime have to raise the funds to pay for legal representation wheather this is to secure documents, information, or preperation for the trial it will still have a cost attached to it, if for what ever reason Sharon Matthews can not raise sufficent funds to cover these and/or any other costs associated with the trial she will without doubt be at a disadvantage, any such disadvantage may have a negative effect on the outcome of the trial, if however the funds become avalible, Sharon Matthews legal people will be able to present a much better case, so you see Justice may well be dependent on finance Now go away!!!

Because the report is factually incorrect, she does not have to raise funds to achieve justice. He 'defence team' are asking for information ahead of the trial, which like in the any legal situation involves costs. In this case, unnecessary costs. She will achieve the same conclusion whether or not she receives this documentation. This has no bearing on the trial.

How on earth will she achive the same conclusion, if she receives the information pre-trial her leagal people can prepare and present a better case, if she doesnt receive the information the outcome will be different Now as obsinate has already said go away and argue with one of your other logins I:E Cornbeefur

[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: The report may or may not be factually incorrect,however this does not change the fact that Sharon Matthews will at sometime have to raise the funds to pay for legal representation wheather this is to secure documents, information, or preperation for the trial it will still have a cost attached to it, if for what ever reason Sharon Matthews can not raise sufficent funds to cover these and/or any other costs associated with the trial she will without doubt be at a disadvantage, any such disadvantage may have a negative effect on the outcome of the trial, if however the funds become avalible, Sharon Matthews legal people will be able to present a much better case, so you see Justice may well be dependent on finance Now go away!!![/p][/quote]Because the report is factually incorrect, she does not have to raise funds to achieve justice. He 'defence team' are asking for information ahead of the trial, which like in the any legal situation involves costs. In this case, unnecessary costs. She will achieve the same conclusion whether or not she receives this documentation. This has no bearing on the trial.[/p][/quote]How on earth will she achive the same conclusion, if she receives the information pre-trial her leagal people can prepare and present a better case, if she doesnt receive the information the outcome will be different
Now as obsinate has already said go away and argue with one of your other logins I:E Cornbeefurtjm01

Villagecranberry wrote…

tjm01 wrote…

The report may or may not be factually incorrect,however this does not change the fact that Sharon Matthews will at sometime have to raise the funds to pay for legal representation wheather this is to secure documents, information, or preperation for the trial it will still have a cost attached to it, if for what ever reason Sharon Matthews can not raise sufficent funds to cover these and/or any other costs associated with the trial she will without doubt be at a disadvantage, any such disadvantage may have a negative effect on the outcome of the trial, if however the funds become avalible, Sharon Matthews legal people will be able to present a much better case, so you see Justice may well be dependent on finance Now go away!!!

Because the report is factually incorrect, she does not have to raise funds to achieve justice. He 'defence team' are asking for information ahead of the trial, which like in the any legal situation involves costs. In this case, unnecessary costs. She will achieve the same conclusion whether or not she receives this documentation. This has no bearing on the trial.

How on earth will she achive the same conclusion, if she receives the information pre-trial her leagal people can prepare and present a better case, if she doesnt receive the information the outcome will be different Now as obsinate has already said go away and argue with one of your other logins I:E Cornbeefur

Score: -1

Villagecranberry says...9:59pm Mon 28 Jul 14

tjm01 wrote…

Villagecranberry wrote…

tjm01 wrote…

The report may or may not be factually incorrect,however this does not change the fact that Sharon Matthews will at sometime have to raise the funds to pay for legal representation wheather this is to secure documents, information, or preperation for the trial it will still have a cost attached to it, if for what ever reason Sharon Matthews can not raise sufficent funds to cover these and/or any other costs associated with the trial she will without doubt be at a disadvantage, any such disadvantage may have a negative effect on the outcome of the trial, if however the funds become avalible, Sharon Matthews legal people will be able to present a much better case, so you see Justice may well be dependent on finance Now go away!!!

Because the report is factually incorrect, she does not have to raise funds to achieve justice. He 'defence team' are asking for information ahead of the trial, which like in the any legal situation involves costs. In this case, unnecessary costs. She will achieve the same conclusion whether or not she receives this documentation. This has no bearing on the trial.

How on earth will she achive the same conclusion, if she receives the information pre-trial her leagal people can prepare and present a better case, if she doesnt receive the information the outcome will be different Now as obsinate has already said go away and argue with one of your other logins I:E Cornbeefur

She is not on trial! Why does she need a legal team? The prosecution prepare the case and any disclosure will be made pre-trial. Someone has come up with a bright idea to drag out additional information that costs money.

[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]Villagecranberry[/bold] wrote:
[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote: The report may or may not be factually incorrect,however this does not change the fact that Sharon Matthews will at sometime have to raise the funds to pay for legal representation wheather this is to secure documents, information, or preperation for the trial it will still have a cost attached to it, if for what ever reason Sharon Matthews can not raise sufficent funds to cover these and/or any other costs associated with the trial she will without doubt be at a disadvantage, any such disadvantage may have a negative effect on the outcome of the trial, if however the funds become avalible, Sharon Matthews legal people will be able to present a much better case, so you see Justice may well be dependent on finance Now go away!!![/p][/quote]Because the report is factually incorrect, she does not have to raise funds to achieve justice. He 'defence team' are asking for information ahead of the trial, which like in the any legal situation involves costs. In this case, unnecessary costs. She will achieve the same conclusion whether or not she receives this documentation. This has no bearing on the trial.[/p][/quote]How on earth will she achive the same conclusion, if she receives the information pre-trial her leagal people can prepare and present a better case, if she doesnt receive the information the outcome will be different
Now as obsinate has already said go away and argue with one of your other logins I:E Cornbeefur[/p][/quote]She is not on trial! Why does she need a legal team?
The prosecution prepare the case and any disclosure will be made
pre-trial.
Someone has come up with a bright idea to drag out additional information that costs money.Villagecranberry

tjm01 wrote…

Villagecranberry wrote…

tjm01 wrote…

The report may or may not be factually incorrect,however this does not change the fact that Sharon Matthews will at sometime have to raise the funds to pay for legal representation wheather this is to secure documents, information, or preperation for the trial it will still have a cost attached to it, if for what ever reason Sharon Matthews can not raise sufficent funds to cover these and/or any other costs associated with the trial she will without doubt be at a disadvantage, any such disadvantage may have a negative effect on the outcome of the trial, if however the funds become avalible, Sharon Matthews legal people will be able to present a much better case, so you see Justice may well be dependent on finance Now go away!!!

Because the report is factually incorrect, she does not have to raise funds to achieve justice. He 'defence team' are asking for information ahead of the trial, which like in the any legal situation involves costs. In this case, unnecessary costs. She will achieve the same conclusion whether or not she receives this documentation. This has no bearing on the trial.

How on earth will she achive the same conclusion, if she receives the information pre-trial her leagal people can prepare and present a better case, if she doesnt receive the information the outcome will be different Now as obsinate has already said go away and argue with one of your other logins I:E Cornbeefur

She is not on trial! Why does she need a legal team? The prosecution prepare the case and any disclosure will be made pre-trial. Someone has come up with a bright idea to drag out additional information that costs money.

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tjm01 says...6:07am Tue 29 Jul 14

No she is not on tria I'm glad you have understood that much, and in order for the prosecution to prepare the case certain documents will be required, in order to obtain these documents a representative will have to be appointed and a cost is attached to this,this is just one of the costs which Sharon Matthews may not be in a position to fund You last paragraph contradicts all you have been saying NOW PLEASE GO AWAY

No she is not on tria I'm glad you have understood that much, and in order for the prosecution to prepare the case certain documents will be required, in order to obtain these documents a representative will have to be appointed and a cost is attached to this,this is just one of the costs which Sharon Matthews may not be in a position to fund
You last paragraph contradicts all you have been saying
NOW PLEASE GO AWAYtjm01

No she is not on tria I'm glad you have understood that much, and in order for the prosecution to prepare the case certain documents will be required, in order to obtain these documents a representative will have to be appointed and a cost is attached to this,this is just one of the costs which Sharon Matthews may not be in a position to fund You last paragraph contradicts all you have been saying NOW PLEASE GO AWAY

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Villagecranberry says...4:45pm Wed 30 Jul 14

tjm01 wrote…

No she is not on tria I'm glad you have understood that much, and in order for the prosecution to prepare the case certain documents will be required, in order to obtain these documents a representative will have to be appointed and a cost is attached to this,this is just one of the costs which Sharon Matthews may not be in a position to fund You last paragraph contradicts all you have been saying NOW PLEASE GO AWAY

You keep telling me to 'go away' then you keep coming back. You have the wrong end of the stick again and believe anything you read.

[quote][p][bold]tjm01[/bold] wrote:
No she is not on tria I'm glad you have understood that much, and in order for the prosecution to prepare the case certain documents will be required, in order to obtain these documents a representative will have to be appointed and a cost is attached to this,this is just one of the costs which Sharon Matthews may not be in a position to fund
You last paragraph contradicts all you have been saying
NOW PLEASE GO AWAY[/p][/quote]You keep telling me to 'go away' then you keep coming back.
You have the wrong end of the stick again and believe anything you read.Villagecranberry

tjm01 wrote…

No she is not on tria I'm glad you have understood that much, and in order for the prosecution to prepare the case certain documents will be required, in order to obtain these documents a representative will have to be appointed and a cost is attached to this,this is just one of the costs which Sharon Matthews may not be in a position to fund You last paragraph contradicts all you have been saying NOW PLEASE GO AWAY

You keep telling me to 'go away' then you keep coming back. You have the wrong end of the stick again and believe anything you read.

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