Another year, another top 10 with two guys I don't know. (McGuinness and Nakamura, for those that care.) Surprised Orton's #1, let alone that high. It always bothered me that WWE never used the PWI500 to start feuds. WCW had some wrestlers at least mention their placing back in the day.

That's something I never understood about PWI back in the day. Rankings were supposed to be based on wins and losses, but they always ranked Flair (who rarely won, and had his title saved by run-ins on a nightly basis) ahead of Hogan (who beat everyone clean). Even as a stupid kid, I could see that Flair was a better technical wrestler and I knew his matches were more fun to watch than Hogan's, but there was no denying Hogan's far superior win/loss record which PWI seemingly refused to acknowledge.

And nowadays, it's weird looking at a PWI when it's sort of this weird work/shoot hybrid. From what I can tell, they never fully acknowledge that it's a work, but there's all this talk of "storylines" and "writers" and "angles" and it's SO WEIRD. Where is Matt Brock? I want articles written by an old drunk in a cheap hotel room, on a typewriter that has been carried from town to town (by train, whenever possible).

These kids today with their internets and their Meltzers don't know what they're missing.

Wish more Midwest guys would have made it...shocked Dingo missed the cut, he's had a breakout year(holding the IWA Mid-South title as well as the NWA Missouri belt). Also wish Michael Strider would have made it...hopefully working for Harley Race's fed will improve his visibility.

Originally posted by KJames199Where is Matt Brock? I want articles written by an old drunk in a cheap hotel room, on a typewriter that has been carried from town to town (by train, whenever possible).

I haven't looked at a PWI in many years. But I used to love Matt Brock's columns as a kid. I was not surprised but somewhat deflated when in an email from former writer Ed Emelett (may be misspelling his name) about 11 years ago he revealed that crusty old reporter Matt Brock never existed. The writers took turns being "Matt Brock". But Eddie Ellner was a real guy.

Wikipedia says: "Likewise, columnist Liz Hunter is fictitious, as are oft-quoted WWF/WWE "inside source" Thomas Pilliard and "wrestling psychologist" Dr. Sidney M. Basil." The latter two are obvious, even to me as a 12 year old.

Originally posted by BigDaddyLocoSo know that we have stats, has anyone taken the time to see who the top movers and shakers were moving up or down the charts?

I'm off today, what the heck.The following were in the top 120 last year, and aren't in this year's chart:Bobby Lashley, Rob Van Dam, Gregory Helms, Marcus Cor Von, Yoshinari Ogawa, Vampiro, The Boogyeman, Jeff Jarrett.

The following were not ranked in last years chart (as far as I can tell-many are Japanese and Mexican, and may be listed under a different name) and are in the top 150 this year:Chris Jericho, Suwama, JBL, Rey Mysterio Jr., Chuck Palumbo, Orlando Colon, Kofi Kingston, Alan Stone, Kenta Kobashi, Tyler Black, Masato Tanaka, El Condor, Wataru Inoue, Blue Demon Jr., Blitz, Matt Morgan, Black Reign, Mr. Niebla, and Joe Doering.

Other top risers include Mesias (from 206 last year [as Muerte Cibernetica] to 26 this year), Shinsuke Nakamura (from 96 to 10), Triple H (from 51 to 3), and Keiji Muto (from 119 to 16).Interestingly, Nick Dinsmore rose from 190 to 101, after getting fired from the WWE and moving down to the indy level.

I also find it amusing that certain people find themselves ranked together two years in a row. In 2007, Snitsky was 130, and Togi Makabe was 131. This year, Snitsky falls to 134, and Makabe falls to 135. I feel there's someone at PWI who lobbies for Makabe's inclusion at Snitsky's level.

Or the plight of tag teams. Last year Brother Ray was 74 and Brother Devon was 80. This year Brother Ray is 78 and Brother Devon is 82. So PWI thinks that Brothey Ray is always a little bit better.

"Now if you'll excuse me, I'm gonna go backstage. I'm proud of myself, I just beat Brad Armstrong!"- Arn Anderson on WCW Saturday Night in 1992, in the classiest display I've ever seen of someone putting over an underrated mid-carder that everyone in the locker room knew deserved better than the push he got.