Although we’ve known about it for a year, we’ve never had a clear answer from Senator Warren truly explaining her love of the show - sure, she tried to parse it in that interview with Samantha Bee, but let’s be honest, her strange, optimistic view of the show’s thematic elements was, at best, a politician’s dodge. She can do better.

This weekend, she finally got her chance during an interview on Pod Save America, where, after a wide-ranging discussion about banking policy and Senate decorum, Warren was finally asked, point blank, just what it was that made her such a big fan of Ballers.

So how did she handle this difficult question? Did she try another dodge about the hopeful themes in the show? Or perhaps try to filibuster her way out of answering altogether?

Turns out, she went with the truth, and set the record straight with four powerful words:

“It is The Rock.”

Well said, Senator.

(Also, is it too early to start rooting for Warren/Johnson 2020? If The Rock agrees to be her VP, she might actually run.)

Dan is a Staff Contributor. You can listen to him scream into the void on Twitter.