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I'm sorry to do this, but I won't be posting in the Serebii Discussion Forums anymore. My account here will remain open for trading/chatting with friends, but please be patient for a reply as my visits here will be fewer.

I've left for the greener pastures of Bulbagarden Forums, where free speech is still allowed and the rules are followed by all, including those who enforce them.

Womandam I use it when I start the game with Piplup, but just against Gardenia with it steel form. And I don't know what's wrong with Vespiquen, it has a massive defensive status and I use this one every chance I got. =)
Bibarel is a nice HM slave so, I use it a lot.