it was madscot I was criticizing, not you. you had quoted his nasty comment. when you call him "all too typical for his kind" and that is correct, only "his kind" should not be taken to mean all Christians, and I do not think you intended that way. There are even some nicer evangelicals and fundamentalists here and there - including some who are environmentalists, and we need to be careful not to imply all fundies are evil (brainwashed maybe, stupid regarding religion maybe, but not necessarily morally bad persons). I really do not think you disagree with me, and I did not want you to think I was attacking you. I like you even when I challenge you and disagree a bit - such as on wording nonbelief as too hard a hard atheism. I like it that you are a strong participant on these discussions.

It aint necessarily so wrote:

<quoted text>Yes, "Bringmedinner" is morally bankrupt, and all too typical for his kind. He tells us that without his faith, he would have no reason not to murder. He obviously believes that murder is not wrong unless a punitive sky daddy sees it. And that's just the beginning of his depravity. He is happy to scapegoat skeptics, and he is happy to use the extremely derogatory and provocative language to do so.What do we think about such people? What should we do about them? Politely tolerate them? The Jews don't think so. They and their Anti-Defamation League won't tolerate this kind of talk about them, and I'll bet that they know a thing or two about the consequences of condoning such speech.Some say don't be confrontational. I ask, why not? Because somebody might be turned off? Who cares? Being a spineless doormat turns me off.Who else tolerates this kind of talk? Seriously - who else let's others call them vile, corrupt, and abominable? I say we need to kick it up a notch, and take the aggressive role in such conversations. If one of these religites wants to libel you or me, give his moral indignation back to him in spades - in language that makes it clear what is and is not acceptable, and offers an example for others. Nobody should sit for that kind of hate speech that doesn't need to.

oops,not clear - madscot was the one who was nasty to bringmedinner, who is also nasty and a bad guy. madscot was arrogant and obscene, and he overgeneralized, but he was against the bad guy! I never met madscot before and will try to argue with him directly,and will probably get cursed out for my efforts. at least it is another hard atheist making a fool of himself being nasty - I haven't found a nasty agnostic atheist, and hope I never do.

Bush Gang and Bill Clinton-Blythe Rockefeller worshipping Molech/Lucifer/Satan with "mock" child sacrifice at Jewish homosexual nudist compound at Bohemian Grove in Monte Rio, California on Summer Solstice. Photo copyright Bohemian Club annual yearbook"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan,who say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie."Christian Bible, Revelation 3:9“He who gives his seed to Molech incurs no punishment.”Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 64a“If one committed sodomy with a child of less than nine years, no guilt is incurred.”Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 54b“It is permitted to consult by charm the spirits of oil and eggs, and make incantations.”Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 101a“Women having intercourse with a beast can marry a priest, the act is but a mere wound.”Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Yebamoth 59a“A harlot’s hire is permitted, for what the woman has received is legally a gift.”Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Abodah Zarah 62b-63a“One can revile the Divine Name if mentally appling it to some other object.”Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 65a-bOne may declare:“Every vow which I may make in the future shall be null.”Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Nedarim 23a-23b“If ten men smote a man with ten staves and he died, they are exempt from punishment.”Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 78a“The Jew is the living God, God incarnate: he is the heavenly man.The other men (non-Jew) are earthly, of inferior race.They exist only to serve the Jew.The Goyim (non Jew) are the cattle seed."Jewish Cabala"The whole concept of God is outdated; Judaism can function perfectly well without it.“Rabbi Sherwin Wine“Whoever gives any of his seed to Molech: he shall surely be put to death.”Christian Bible, Leviticus 20:2Bohemian Grove Exposed!- Jesus Is SaviorBohemian Grove Exposed! The Dark Secrets of Bohemian Grove (Free Video —1 Hour, 50 Minutes). You are listening to an actually MP3 recording of the ...http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religi ...- 112k -

you do realize this sounds a bit extreme, and not adequately documented. you would need a lot of documentation to convince people. one interesting thing you should check on if you are into the details of this thing - the Bohemiam place especially - is that Bill Casey apparently claimed to have been there when some folks thought they saw him in Europe meeting with Iranians arranging to have them not release the US hostages while Carter was President. I always wondered about that. Was Casey supposedly there in 1980 in the summer?

Hey, I’m not the one calling myself bigdickhead, that’s the racist moron we have on here, try running his name through google translate (hint, Polish > English) to see what a fool he is making of you. He readily admits to being racist, perhaps that sort of sick hatred is just the sort of thing that turns you one.

Then you go on to call me racist, all that does is totally f*cks up your own credibility simply because it proves that you know bugger all about me and shoes you are just calling names for spite.

As for nothing to contribute, I’ve never come across any one who can counter E=MC^2 versus Revelation 19:6, lets face it you are here so no omnipotent entity can me. Hey, even butt crack gets all wound up with it.

The Tanahk story of the father of the person you call jesus is a doozie too, verified by the Roman archives, the gostic gospels and even some early Christians.

What appears to be the problem is that you have no answer to any of my points so you tend to ignore then and go into spite mode. The thing is, I don’t actually care about you ignorance and venom

Talking about venom, lets go into your hatred accusation. Nope, I don’t think I have the hatred emotion, if I do then it’s very much in the background and I can’t say I’ve ever noticed it. I have never started any bout of name calling but I wilfully reciprocate, just as I do with you. Such a pity that you don’t have the bottle to accept payback, you’d make a much more entertaining adversary

<quoted text>Yes you Brits praise fighting against Totalitarian Hitler.Now Brits create thought crimes of anyone with racist views.I really think British people are some of the most retarded people I have seen.Brits praise Totalitarian Oliver Cromwell as the best of British leaders.Brits praise destroying Totalitarian Nazis.While Brits praise thought crime totalitarian rules again racist thought crimes.

Ignored on the grounds that your bigoted and racist opinion is irrelevant and you are f*cking clueless

<quoted text>I believe the problem is money and perhaps even the will to act. The police must act in the case of paedophilia or there will be riots. Racism is not seen as so harmful so receives a lower priority. The same technology and methods can be used in both cases.Most people don’t understand how the technology works, it not a case of thought police. Just consider the internet traffic at any one moment and how many “thought police” would be required to monitor it. So there must be more precise method, electronic filters looks for certain word combinations. A hit is tagged and examined. All others packets (the internet works by sending packets) are ignored. I don’t know what words are looked for but maybe this post will be tagged because it contains- police, racism and paedophilia.When a police helicopter keeps me awake at night because it’s searching for a criminal, I do not feel any intrusion although I can feel a little grumpy from lack of sleep the nest day. In the same way do not feel any intrusion about my internet communication being read. I put it on topix to be read so no problem. As you say, nothing to hide.Yes racism is still around but at least for in the case of physical intrusion we now have the law.

i agree with your observations and thoughts here..There is less tolerance for paedophilia than for racism..fair enough, one might say..there are more racist people than paedophiles hence the denouncement of the latter.Re the internet..looking for word combinations would help, also I wonder if there are already police 'spies' on these sites, posing as paedophiles / racist bigots / any other undesirable group..?. The spies could 'befriend' the suspects, and hence find further information ..hey, sounds like an inteesting job !

<quoted text>It's a shame they passed laws against burning witches, atheists and all that other stuff Christianity is supposed to kill, eliminate, or persecute, eh?What good is Christianity without the righteous hate?We could be converting godless heathens, plucking out eyes and all kinds of good holy stuff if it wasn't for crazy idea of equality.

<quoted text>Do show us all these magical properties I attach to anything.I will point to the above message and remind that I am calling you out as the lying bigot you are, and that it is you who finds a need to make things up (these quotes that do not exist) when you have nothing else.Do not pass go: show us all the quote or comment where I attach magical qualities to anything.

You attempted to bestow the magic of mind reading onto me simply because you had nothing substantial to bolster your godhead ego

You are welcome to call me out as anything you want but without evidence your words are about as useful as p|ssing into the ocean.

What quotes are you referring to, please tell me and I will show you the evidence to prove you are a total snivelling pillock. As to mind reading, that was your statement, you were therefore attempting to bestow magical or even godlike powers onto me to suite your own godhead ego, just because it backfired on you is your fault for going there in the first place, you cannot lay the blame on me you your own words.

<quoted text>Hey, I’m not the one calling myself bigdickhead, that’s the racist moron we have on here, try running his name through google translate (hint, Polish > English) to see what a fool he is making of you. He readily admits to being racist, perhaps that sort of sick hatred is just the sort of thing that turns you one.Then you go on to call me racist, all that does is totally f*cks up your own credibility simply because it proves that you know bugger all about me and shoes you are just calling names for spite.As for nothing to contribute, I’ve never come across any one who can counter E=MC^2 versus Revelation 19:6, lets face it you are here so no omnipotent entity can me. Hey, even butt crack gets all wound up with it.The Tanahk story of the father of the person you call jesus is a doozie too, verified by the Roman archives, the gostic gospels and even some early Christians.What appears to be the problem is that you have no answer to any of my points so you tend to ignore then and go into spite mode. The thing is, I don’t actually care about you ignorance and venomTalking about venom, lets go into your hatred accusation. Nope, I don’t think I have the hatred emotion, if I do then it’s very much in the background and I can’t say I’ve ever noticed it. I have never started any bout of name calling but I wilfully reciprocate, just as I do with you. Such a pity that you don’t have the bottle to accept payback, you’d make a much more entertaining adversary

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