So in the absence of fact just insert theory or assumptions? Or worse yet despite the presence of facts insert it anyway?

So let me get this straight... Zimmerman found Martin, Martin ran and Zimmerman caught him??? Seriously? Um... have you seen the two people in question here??? So a fat out of shape Zimmerman chased and actually CAUGHT Martin????

Ok... sure... again NO evidence shows that but we've already established that things like truth, facts and evidence mean nothing to those with an agenda. So... Zimmerman catches him... what then? Martin has ZERO injuries besides the gunshot... Zimmerman has Zero marks on his hands/knuckles to indicate he ever struck Martin, even once.

Unless the position you're referring to is laying on the ground and waiting for Martin to slam his head into a sidewalk then no, he didn't.

I know facts don't matter but Zimmerman wasn't "on duty" that night and wasn't acting as part of the neighborhood watch. So while technically he was part of it he wasn't on that night.

So then he really had no reason to be following a suspicious looking kid into an apartment complex that he had NO business being at.

ps He may have not been on duty but he was definitely playing the role.

Which is it? Can't be both.

Other than starting the physical altercation by sucker punching Zimmerman in the nose,

Is this an example of facts you speak of? That's Zimmerman's tale. Just not sure I believe it.

getting on top of him, raining down punches and ultimately slamming his head into a sidewalk multiple times right???

No matter how you look at it Zimmerman went into that complex after that kid. He was captain of neighborhood watch so he knew better than to do that. He had to have a purpose for being in there. If it wasn't to confront the kid, then what?

What may have started out as vigilante justice became a case of having to defend himself. Hence, the self defense and vigilante justice both. So suck it, Chuck!

So let me get this straight... Zimmerman found Martin, Martin ran and Zimmerman caught him??? Seriously? Um... have you seen the two people in question here??? So a fat out of shape Zimmerman chased and actually CAUGHT Martin????

George Zimmerman, who has been in hiding since he was acquitted of murder in the death of Trayvon Martin, emerged to help rescue a family who was trapped in an overturned vehicle, police said today.
Zimmerman was one of two men who came to the aid of a family of four -- two parents and two children -- trapped inside a blue Ford Explorer SUV that had rolled over after traveling off the highway in Sanford, Fla. at approximately 5:45 p.m. Thursday, the Seminole County Sheriff's Office said in a statement.
The crash occurred at the intersection of I-4 and route Route 46, police said. The crash site is less than a mile from where Zimmerman shot Martin.
By the time police arrived, two people - including Zimmerman - had already helped the family get out of the overturned car, the sheriff's office said. No one was reported to be injured.
Zimmerman was not a witness to the crash and left after speaking with the deputy, police said.
It's the first known sighting of Zimmerman since he left the courtroom following his acquittal last week on murder charges for the death of Martin. Zimmerman, 29, shot and killed Martin, 17, in Sanford, Fla., on Feb. 26, 2012. The jury determined that Zimmerman shot Martin in self-defense.

No matter how you look at it Zimmerman went into that complex after that kid. He was captain of neighborhood watch so he knew better than to do that. He had to have a purpose for being in there. If it wasn't to confront the kid, then what?

What may have started out as vigilante justice became a case of having to defend himself. Hence, the self defense and vigilante justice both. So suck it, Chuck!

As someone who did not follow this case at all, the before & after pictures of him were really disingenuous. You could tell his attorneys coached him to fatten up & grow his hair out so he'd look "respectable" and "decent" as opposed to that "thug kid". Makes it harder to trust someone's story when they're clearly spinning things from the moment you look at them.

As someone who did not follow this case at all, the before & after pictures of him were really disingenuous. You could tell his attorneys coached him to fatten up & grow his hair out so he'd look "respectable" and "decent" as opposed to that "thug kid". Makes it harder to trust someone's story when they're clearly spinning things from the moment you look at them.

Yeah that's horrible.... it's a good thing the media or his attorney's didn't do that with any of those photos of Martin right?

I meant this IS the Trayvon we've seen all over the news, internet and in the court case right?

As someone who did not follow this case at all, the before & after pictures of him were really disingenuous. You could tell his attorneys coached him to fatten up & grow his hair out so he'd look "respectable" and "decent" as opposed to that "thug kid". Makes it harder to trust someone's story when they're clearly spinning things from the moment you look at them.

Zimmerman's keys was found on the ground 50ft from where the shooting took place.

Both voice experts said it was Martin's voice yelling 'stop' and 'help' in the beginning of the 911 call. One said the later was Zimmerman. One said the later could have been Zimmerman. (I wished the judge would have let them testify.)

Zimmerman was training in MMA three times a week. In less than a minute decides he can't get up or defend himself. But he can reach into his pants and pull his gun.

I still believe that Zimmerman tried to detain the boy and the boy punched him.

And when Zimmerman apologized to the family he said he didn't know how old Martin was. He said he thought he was closer to his own age. Really? In the 911 call he told the dispatcher that he was in his teens. And also called him a kid.