What they did was horrific, but thankfully they're stupid enough to get caught for it. Hopefully the victim's family will get some small amount of closure knowing they'll be rotting in jail for a long, long time.

Ambivalence:Oh yah, cops and lawyers just LOVE facebook. It's absolutely incredible what people will post on the internet thinking no one can see it or find it.

AGREES

LinkFor those who don't want to click, he also posted quite frequently about having child porn, how to get it, fapping to it, that he wanted to adopt a little girl to use as a sex slave, etc. Publicly. The FBI were not amused.

platedlizard:Ambivalence: Oh yah, cops and lawyers just LOVE facebook. It's absolutely incredible what people will post on the internet thinking no one can see it or find it.

AGREES[i.imgur.com image 641x682]

Link For those who don't want to click, he also posted quite frequently about having child porn, how to get it, fapping to it, that he wanted to adopt a little girl to use as a sex slave, etc. Publicly. The FBI were not amused.

CavalierEternal:platedlizard: Ambivalence: Oh yah, cops and lawyers just LOVE facebook. It's absolutely incredible what people will post on the internet thinking no one can see it or find it.

AGREES[i.imgur.com image 641x682]

Link For those who don't want to click, he also posted quite frequently about having child porn, how to get it, fapping to it, that he wanted to adopt a little girl to use as a sex slave, etc. Publicly. The FBI were not amused.

So, to summarize, he claimed it was all a joke?

He did indeed. Presumably the gigs and gigs of cp in his computer were also a joke.

Human garbage. The one on the right looked retarded, and I mean that literally.Why is this becoming so common, teenagers killing the poor and/or homeless?fark. There never seems to be any sort of relation to the victims, just completely random people beaten and/or killed for fun.

platedlizard:Link For those who don't want to click, he also posted quite frequently about having child porn, how to get it, fapping to it, that he wanted to adopt a little girl to use as a sex slave, etc. Publicly. The FBI were not amused.

Sad and infuriating at the same time.

He should have commissioned someone to draw them together. Black people always look so dignified in anime and manga.

It is a tragedy that these kids fell through the cracks and into the gutter of society.

They knew what they did was wrong, and should now face the consequences of their brutal murder, ending the life of a partially disabled father of 12. Death, or a very long imprisonment where there might be some hope at rehabilitation, are the only appropriate sentences.

platedlizard:Ambivalence: Oh yah, cops and lawyers just LOVE facebook. It's absolutely incredible what people will post on the internet thinking no one can see it or find it.

AGREES[i.imgur.com image 641x682]

Link For those who don't want to click, he also posted quite frequently about having child porn, how to get it, fapping to it, that he wanted to adopt a little girl to use as a sex slave, etc. Publicly. The FBI were not amused.

So the victim wasn't content to sit on his ass and collect disability. He went out early in the morning to collect cans to support his family. You know what? That's a real man, doing something most would consider dirty or demeaning, because he wanted to take care of his responsibilities.

clyph:It isn't. The percentage of sociopaths in the population is more or less constant. There are two factors at work

Also with the internet everyone can find out about it. If it happened twenty years ago, it might make the local papers, the local news, and that's it. It's like teachers sleeping with students. Or any other of a long list of things.

clyph:God-is-a-Taco: Why is this becoming so common, teenagers killing the poor and/or homeless

It isn't. The percentage of sociopaths in the population is more or less constant. There are two factors at work

1) the population is bigger now than it was 20 years ago2) social networking didn't exist 20 years ago.

Bigger population = more total sociopathsSocial networking = sociopaths blogging/tweeting about their sociopathic behavior

Not to be a coont or anything, but a true sociopath wouldn't have any interest in bragging about breaking societal rules, because sociopaths feel nothing. These kids took pleasure in the act. They probably fit somewhere in the Dark triad.

Gwyrddu:Tatterdemalian: If Mora had a gun and shot his attackers, we'd be calling him a deranged white-hispanic vigilante wannabe and demanding justice for his unarmed teenage victims.

I live with my mom

Weak.

Also, we should have a troll button next to smart and funny.

Definitely a troll, but Mora might have lived. If lucky, he wouldn't have had to fire a shot. Unlucky and he would've had to shoot one of them. Broke a mirror kicking a black cat out of his path under a ladder unlucky and he would've had the gun wrestled away and used on him, leaving him dead as he is now.

Loaded Six String:Definitely a troll, but Mora might have lived. If lucky, he wouldn't have had to fire a shot. Unlucky and he would've had to shoot one of them. Broke a mirror kicking a black cat out of his path under a ladder unlucky and he would've had the gun wrestled away and used on him, leaving him dead as he is now.

A self defense weapon would've given him at least a chance.

or the assailants could have just ran away and moved on to another target. They were clearly looking for someone weak who wouldn't put up a fight to attack, and would have found a victim eventually.

He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooliganAnd he said that he'd never, never do it againAnd of course he won't (oh, not until the next time)

He was a sweet and tender hooligan, hooliganAnd he swore that he'll never, never do it againAnd of course he won't (oh, not until the next time)

Poor old manHe had an "accident" with a three-bar fireBut that's OKBecause he wasn't very happy anywayPoor womanStrangled in her very own bed as she readBut that's OKBecause she was old and she would have died anywayDon't blame

The sweet and tender hooligan, hooliganBecause he'll never, never, never, never, never, never do it again(not until the next time)

ThatDarkFellow:Sending them to jail isn't the answer. They're only kids.

That means they'll grow up to do worse. The answer is putting them down in the same fashion as their victim. Beat them all to death.

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I concur. It's what you do with predatory animals, and that's all these scumbags are. Not a shred of humanity left among them.

We need to burn down the prisons in this country and replace them with true rehabilitation facilities for non-violent offenders. The violent offenders would get sent to a Thunderdome-ish facility where food (laced with PCP and bath salts) and fresh weapons get dumped in once a day.

soundguy:ThatDarkFellow: Sending them to jail isn't the answer. They're only kids.

That means they'll grow up to do worse. The answer is putting them down in the same fashion as their victim. Beat them all to death.

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I concur. It's what you do with predatory animals, and that's all these scumbags are. Not a shred of humanity left among them.

We need to burn down the prisons in this country and replace them with true rehabilitation facilities for non-violent offenders. The violent offenders would get sent to a Thunderdome-ish facility where food (laced with PCP and bath salts) and fresh weapons get dumped in once a day.

I really do wish we had something similar. People who do this kind of garbage need to know the consequence will be swift and SEVERE. You won't get hugs and kisses while you try to jerk the system around with appeals. You were caught on camera murdering a guy. The ONLY control you should have over your own life after that is A) Choosing to die or B) Being shipped off to a cage with other animals, never to be seen again.

It isn't. The percentage of sociopaths in the population is more or less constant. There are two factors at work

1) the population is bigger now than it was 20 years ago2) social networking didn't exist 20 years ago.

Bigger population = more total sociopathsSocial networking = sociopaths blogging/tweeting about their sociopathic behavior

Not to be a coont or anything, but a true sociopath wouldn't have any interest in bragging about breaking societal rules, because sociopaths feel nothing. These kids took pleasure in the act. They probably fit somewhere in the Dark triad.

Depends on what type of sociopath they are, or even if they are sociopaths or high-functioning psychopaths or if it was a crime of opportunity or even some kind of initiation into a gang. There are a lot of motivators to crime.

Now, if my Law and Order marathons are anything to learn from I would assess that from the limited account of the video, the act of violence was a bonding experience for both of them, but one of them came up with the plan and the other followed. Since it's rare to have two alphas unite, I would also suspect that one is dominant and instructed the beta to participate and film it in order to implicate him or possibly train him. Whoever is the dominant personality also gets off on violence and kept the video as a trophy.