This is the first we’ve heard that a complete draft has been done for Alien 5. Surprisingly, Ridley Scott also says that Alien 5 will be released in 2017 which is also the same year that Alien: Paradise Lost is currently due for release.

Sigourney definitely did a lot of great things for women in her role. It was groundbreaking for her to carry the lead role in such action thrillers. I actually think her character in the second film is an excellent role model, but that is more the character than the actor.

Then again, she did kind of refuse to help the other marines who were being cocooned...

I just don't want to see Alien 3 retconned. It was a lovely conclusion, and Sigourney's finest performance in the series.

I've always thought it ironic that the two weaker films contain by far the best performances from Weaver. She's superb in 3 and Resurrection.

I can't say I agree with you on this, while she did a great job in Alien 3, she, along with everything else in Resurrection, sucked. While she isn't as bad as the rest of the film per say, all her one liners and corny scenes were just awful, in my opinion. She almost won an Academy Award and a Golden Globe for her acting in part 2, and for a reason, she was spot on perfect in that film. And while she was nominated for best actress in all her alien roles via "Academy of Science Fiction", she only ever won for her part in Aliens.

Eh. Usually when people rave about something being magnificent I can see where there coming from, even if I don't agree. With the early comics I just do not get it. Literally nothing about them strikes me as even remotely spectacular at all.

They feel like a kid's fan-fic to me, with the exception of a couple of minor mature points, which in turn feel like they were thrown in in some kind of attempt to stop it being kids' fan fiction, and as a result they're pretty much dropped straight away.

Maybe they would, but as I've said before I just can't understand all the love for the early comics. They may have been ground-breaking in their day, but now they just come across as tired, uninspired and kinda immature. There are other stories from the EU that I find infinitely more engaging.

Whether you feel that other stories or comics from the EU are infinitely more engaging is up to you. That goes without saying because it is an opinion-based statement. It just makes no sense to say that this is a "fact". There are many valid reasons why fans still love the original Aliens comics series. I will revisit that thread where we discussed this some day and I will go through the series to delve deeper into that, but essentially the series covers a large swath of monumental events (infestation of earth, visiting the homeworld) while managing to keep the story very human and on a personal level. It was a monumental comics series in its day.

^^This. I would comment further on why, but im shattered lol. Will add when possible lol

Maybe they would, but as I've said before I just can't understand all the love for the early comics. They may have been ground-breaking in their day, but now they just come across as tired, uninspired and kinda immature. There are other stories from the EU that I find infinitely more engaging.

Whether you feel that other stories or comics from the EU are infinitely more engaging is up to you. That goes without saying because it is an opinion-based statement. It just makes no sense to say that this is a "fact". There are many valid reasons why fans still love the original Aliens comics series. I will revisit that thread where we discussed this some day and I will go through the series to delve deeper into that, but essentially the series covers a large swath of monumental events (infestation of earth, visiting the homeworld) while managing to keep the story very human and on a personal level. It was a monumental comics series in its day.

Maybe they would, but as I've said before I just can't understand all the love for the early comics. They may have been ground-breaking in their day, but now they just come across as tired, uninspired and kinda immature. There are other stories from the EU that I find infinitely more engaging.

How to say ? Except the clone, I love Ripley, but it should be over. Let her live in peace. Her only concern since she was on board the Nostromo, was to get rid of/forget the Alien at any cost (blowing up the ship, refusing to go back to LV-426, commiting suicide...) She joined the marines in Aliens only because she couldn't cope with her nightmares.

Now, unless I'm mistaken, she's back, as well as Hicks. This choice is a huge gamble. Better make Alien 5 a masterpiece if it ought to be in line with Alien and Aliens...

At least I wish they are done with the Derelict and find a new way to get people (or other lifeforms) infected.

Good Grief guys. An Alien(s) movie is an Alien movie because it has the freaking A L I E N in it. Now sure Ridley did expand the universe but we're talking Alien movie here.

I must admit I really did want that Giger world sequel where Rip and co. kick some major ass somewhere far off on another planet and the reason the derelict crashed on lv 426 is finally answered but unfortunately we got Alien³ instead. Which wasn't that bad. However I do not want an Aliens sequel that is a retread of Aliens.

The idea of using Ripley would only make sense if it adds to the story. Do I think it made sense to use her in Out of the Shadows? Absolutely not. Would that have been a fun sort of alt. reality story to see Ripley in action again with Ash in tow? Certainly. But to make it canon, just for the sake of bringing back Ripley? That's bollocks as you say (are you British?).

It is a fact that the story arcs of Hicks and Newt were abruptly and gracelessly ended, and Ripley's character while she met an appropriate end, she ended up coming back in Resurrection just to negate her sacrifice in Alien 3. Continuing the story from where Resurrection left off with Lazarus Ripley in tow is just silly. Nobody cares (most people don't anyway).

If we assume that the story of Aliens could have been continued in a better direction, then it completely makes sense that this would include Ripley and Hicks and Newt. They could be effectively on the run from the colonial marines and WY. There are so many different ways to take that story without even remotely forcing it.

Using the Alien creature is very different from recycling characters.

Yes, reusing characters lends continuation to their story arcs much in the same way as any human story. It is something we can relate to. Reusing the Alien creature is like making separate films about alligators. Yes they're awesome, but there is no human emotional connection there.

I understand the fears of using Ripley again. Things can easily get cheesy. There has to be a right balance struck. But while Alien 3 is great, surely an even better story could have been told.

Th characters are dead. My hope is that Blomkamp sees what Ridley is doing and finds another way for humans to come into contact with the Alien. I'm all for another Aliens-esque film but just not with Ripley et al. No matter what the explanation, or ignoring Alien 3 completely, the film will feel 'cheap' to me and completely pointless. It will be the complete bastardisation of Ripley.

But if we maintain the continuity of Alien 3 and Resurrection, then the main character is "still alive". But in the most stupid way. Cloning with full memories intact? Really?

Th characters are dead. My hope is that Blomkamp sees what Ridley is doing and finds another way for humans to come into contact with the Alien. I'm all for another Aliens-esque film but just not with Ripley et al. No matter what the explanation, or ignoring Alien 3 completely, the film will feel 'cheap' to me and completely pointless. It will be the complete bastardisation of Ripley.

I fail to see a justification in disparaging fans of any of these elements over the other.

I'm not disparaging any fans. I think it's just incredibly sad that the people in charge can't cut the umbilical and try something new. Blomkamp's apparently pressing the reset button, Ridley seems to have totally reneged on his pledge that the Prometheus sequels would move away from Alien and be original... And don't even get me started on the "Ripley being mentioned" thing.

We are all a part of a living in the past crowd. Why not new monsters to replace Giger's Alien? Why not focus on all-new sci-fi? We are all here because we liked various aspects of the Aliens world, whether that be the tech, the characters and relationships, the monsters, the socio-political reality, the story, whatever. I fail to see a justification in disparaging fans of any of these elements over the other. I think the current balance is perfect. We are burning the candle at both ends. Some new films are aimed at exploring the new frontiers of the Aliens universe, while some are aimed at continuing the core story which is actually Ripley's personal drama. It's the human story that matters. Without it, there is the potential that it's just a film about hunting big lizards.

Oh come on! You're getting 3 new Alien films with new characters from Ridley. Some of us also want our Ripley, Hicks, and Newt's tale. That's more than fair. And, you still get to keep your old Alien 3 and Resurrection copies. If the new Blomkamp film turns out good, it really won't be so bad will it?

Granted, it's not 100% confirmed but from what we know it's going to retcon 3 and 4. People need to be prepared for that.

I'm prepared.

Now preparing for the storm thats brewing in some of these threads.

Its like the IRA split here Alien 3 fans with the officials.Wait just wait.When alien 5 and its "sequels" come out then we will see who is happy

The hardest thing to accept is the premise, which is stupid as hell, and the fact that it's going to retcon/split the fan Base. The casual audience won't mind and that's why it's getting made, not because Blomkamp has any respect for the series.

My story idea I posted on here would make Alien 3 and Resurrection fans happy.

No it wouldn't. Because cloning them all makes no sense. Why would they do it? What do they have to gain? Why invest so much time and effort? There's literally no logical reason.

Not to mention, how would they have a clone of Newt when they don't even know that she's survived events until they blast off? I presume growing a clone takes some time. It at least needs to mature. So do they just have clones of the entire colony populace waiting on ice so they can pick out the ones they need?

Neill's off to a great star with District 9, Elysium and Chappie were less than well regarded. Like M. Night Shyamalan he seamed to be on going down hill. Will Alien be Neill's equivalent of M. Night's Last Airbender? I hope to be proven wrong.

This is what worries me more than anything. Coming off the back of District 9 I'd be far more thrilled that Neill's in charge, but his subsequent films have been decidedly uneven.

My story idea I posted on here would make Alien 3 and Resurrection fans happy. Basically we find out that Weyland inserted clones of Ripley, Newt and Hicks onto the Sulaco shortly after ALIENS. These clones are whom we see in Alien 3 and Resurrection. Still better than a "bad dream" imho.

The Sulaco was boarded shortly after Ripley, Hicks, Bishop and Newt go into hypersleep after the events in Aliens by Weyland Yutani personnel. Ripley and co. are taken prisoner and kept in suspended animation as Weyland Corp studies them. They extract DNA from each of them and clone them(which due to the methods employed, accelerate their natural aging process). These clones are placed back on the Sulaco with eggs so that Weyland can view/record the lifecycle of the Aliens. This explains the events in Alien 3 and Resurrection.

The film begins with Bishop slowly waking Ripley and Hicks along with Newt(who has been recast due to obvious real life aging issues). Bishop explains to Ripley and Hicks that he managed to free them from a top secret Weyland holding facility. He shows them security footage of Weyland extracting their DNA and growing clones of them and then replacing them in the Sulaco with Alien eggs on board.

Bishop manages to find out that LV 426 was indeed the Alien homeworld all along and that Weyland had purposely set up mining colonies there to study the Alien lifecycle before contact was lost with Hadley's Hope. He goes on to explain that they need to nuke the planet from orbit but Bishop has decoded a faint distress signal from somewhere below LV 426's surface.....that of Hudson's. Hicks gathers a team of marines that "can be trusted" and realizes that they must again go back to LV 426 to investigate Hudson's distress signal(and see if he's even alive before they nuke the planet for good).

Once on the planet, they re-enter the Derelict as that's where Hudson's distress signal seems to be coming from. They find new underground tunnels leading to a massive, secret underground Weyland Yutani facility(remember that concept art Blomkamp released? ) where Hudson managed to escape to and is now being held against his will.

Naturally, once they rescue Hudson, they realize they must get back into orbit to nuke the entire planet. More Aliens are let loose from maniacal Weyland scientists along with a Queen and King alien as our heroes must fight their way back up to the planet's surface and get back into orbit to end the nightmare for good.

While this story will probably be dismissed as a bad "fan fiction", the few Alien fans I work with really seem to dig the basic premise of the plot as it simply doesn't dismiss Alien 3 and Resurrection as "bad dreams". Those movies *did* in fact happen but with CLONES of our heroes.

No cloning PLEASE. Either have the balls to do a proper retcon or just walk away from the project already. It's just such a poor literary tool to go around cloning, so you can take the story in a different direction so you can preserve the previous canon.

Neill should talk to Cameron and I am sure Cameron would say to do a retcon. Alien 3 was a slap in his face..

My story idea I posted on here would make Alien 3 and Resurrection fans happy. Basically we find out that Weyland inserted clones of Ripley, Newt and Hicks onto the Sulaco shortly after ALIENS. These clones are whom we see in Alien 3 and Resurrection. Still better than a "bad dream" imho.

The Sulaco was boarded shortly after Ripley, Hicks, Bishop and Newt go into hypersleep after the events in Aliens by Weyland Yutani personnel. Ripley and co. are taken prisoner and kept in suspended animation as Weyland Corp studies them. They extract DNA from each of them and clone them(which due to the methods employed, accelerate their natural aging process). These clones are placed back on the Sulaco with eggs so that Weyland can view/record the lifecycle of the Aliens. This explains the events in Alien 3 and Resurrection.

The film begins with Bishop slowly waking Ripley and Hicks along with Newt(who has been recast due to obvious real life aging issues). Bishop explains to Ripley and Hicks that he managed to free them from a top secret Weyland holding facility. He shows them security footage of Weyland extracting their DNA and growing clones of them and then replacing them in the Sulaco with Alien eggs on board.

Bishop manages to find out that LV 426 was indeed the Alien homeworld all along and that Weyland had purposely set up mining colonies there to study the Alien lifecycle before contact was lost with Hadley's Hope. He goes on to explain that they need to nuke the planet from orbit but Bishop has decoded a faint distress signal from somewhere below LV 426's surface.....that of Hudson's. Hicks gathers a team of marines that "can be trusted" and realizes that they must again go back to LV 426 to investigate Hudson's distress signal(and see if he's even alive before they nuke the planet for good).

Once on the planet, they re-enter the Derelict as that's where Hudson's distress signal seems to be coming from. They find new underground tunnels leading to a massive, secret underground Weyland Yutani facility(remember that concept art Blomkamp released? ) where Hudson managed to escape to and is now being held against his will.

Naturally, once they rescue Hudson, they realize they must get back into orbit to nuke the entire planet. More Aliens are let loose from maniacal Weyland scientists along with a Queen and King alien as our heroes must fight their way back up to the planet's surface and get back into orbit to end the nightmare for good.

While this story will probably be dismissed as a bad "fan fiction", the few Alien fans I work with really seem to dig the basic premise of the plot as it simply doesn't dismiss Alien 3 and Resurrection as "bad dreams". Those movies *did* in fact happen but with CLONES of our heroes.

I like that idea, I was sorta thinking a similar thing of them cloning Ripley as I liked Alien 3 and Resurrection.

Plus, your explanation saves a lot of headaches about "how did the egg get on the Sulaco?" Weyland-Yutani just put it there in the name of science.

My story idea I posted on here would make Alien 3 and Resurrection fans happy. Basically we find out that Weyland inserted clones of Ripley, Newt and Hicks onto the Sulaco shortly after ALIENS. These clones are whom we see in Alien 3 and Resurrection. Still better than a "bad dream" imho.

The Sulaco was boarded shortly after Ripley, Hicks, Bishop and Newt go into hypersleep after the events in Aliens by Weyland Yutani personnel. Ripley and co. are taken prisoner and kept in suspended animation as Weyland Corp studies them. They extract DNA from each of them and clone them(which due to the methods employed, accelerate their natural aging process). These clones are placed back on the Sulaco with eggs so that Weyland can view/record the lifecycle of the Aliens. This explains the events in Alien 3 and Resurrection.

The film begins with Bishop slowly waking Ripley and Hicks along with Newt(who has been recast due to obvious real life aging issues). Bishop explains to Ripley and Hicks that he managed to free them from a top secret Weyland holding facility. He shows them security footage of Weyland extracting their DNA and growing clones of them and then replacing them in the Sulaco with Alien eggs on board.

Bishop manages to find out that LV 426 was indeed the Alien homeworld all along and that Weyland had purposely set up mining colonies there to study the Alien lifecycle before contact was lost with Hadley's Hope. He goes on to explain that they need to nuke the planet from orbit but Bishop has decoded a faint distress signal from somewhere below LV 426's surface.....that of Hudson's. Hicks gathers a team of marines that "can be trusted" and realizes that they must again go back to LV 426 to investigate Hudson's distress signal(and see if he's even alive before they nuke the planet for good).

Once on the planet, they re-enter the Derelict as that's where Hudson's distress signal seems to be coming from. They find new underground tunnels leading to a massive, secret underground Weyland Yutani facility(remember that concept art Blomkamp released? ) where Hudson managed to escape to and is now being held against his will.

Naturally, once they rescue Hudson, they realize they must get back into orbit to nuke the entire planet. More Aliens are let loose from maniacal Weyland scientists along with a Queen and King alien as our heroes must fight their way back up to the planet's surface and get back into orbit to end the nightmare for good.

While this story will probably be dismissed as a bad "fan fiction", the few Alien fans I work with really seem to dig the basic premise of the plot as it simply doesn't dismiss Alien 3 and Resurrection as "bad dreams". Those movies *did* in fact happen but with CLONES of our heroes.

There remains the high possibility that Neill may drop the ball. I love Alien 3 but would still prefer to have a better or different film made as a continuation of Aliens. It's just that the end of the story for the main characters, was too abrupt and forced. But there is no film out there for which the expectations of a sequel are so high as Aliens 5. That makes Neill's job that much harder. Will he succeed? We can only cross our fingers and hope.

Though bare this in mind and forgive me if this sounds cynical, Alien 3 has divided the fanbase, fans of James Cameron's Aliens hated the dark nihilistic installment that ended Ripley's story. But despite its flaws it has a fan base. Neill is now making his movie which is to follow after Aliens. Maybe it will bring back integrity to the Alien saga from fans and critics "not counting Prometheus owing it note being a sole centered Alien film, while it was critically well received fans were divided about it."

However it is possible that Neill's movie could be awful, possibly even more damaging than Alien 3. Much like with Superman Returns it was meant to following Superman 1 & 2 while ignoring 3 & 4, though it promised to be a comeback that movie wasn't all that better. The same goes for Halloween H20 retconing Halloween 4,5,6. And Highlander 3 retconing Highlander 2. Despite how they may be preferred they don't necessarily serve much purpose outside of trying repair irrevocable damage to the franchises reputation.

Neill's off to a great star with District 9, Elysium and Chappie were less than well regarded. Like M. Night Shyamalan he seamed to be on going down hill. Will Alien be Neill's equivalent of M. Night's Last Airbender? I hope to be proven wrong.

Granted, it's not 100% confirmed but from what we know it's going to retcon 3 and 4. People need to be prepared for that.

I would say that all signs point to likely, but there is always that slim margin.

When that does happen, and chances are it possibly might... we'll see how it goes. I would prefer if he just didn't acknowledge the latter two films, rather than write them off either as dreams or false memory implants.

Don't get me wrong, I love Alien 3... and kind of can deal with Resurrection but I don't think he should touch them, hence given his statements, he's probably going to be ignoring them. But in the end.. does it even really matter? To me, it just means we can really pick and choose and shouldn't be a slave to what's deemed as canon. More camps for fans to be a part of.

That's the spirit. You can enjoy to alternate timelines. Heck maybe the separate timelines can be picked up as separate threads in various EU materials and products. How awesome is that?Well that's really sad, but if it's any comfort, after you're gone, your Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection Blu-Rays will remain on your shelf. Nobody is coming to take them.

Granted, it's not 100% confirmed but from what we know it's going to retcon 3 and 4. People need to be prepared for that.

I would say that all signs point to likely, but there is always that slim margin.

When that does happen, and chances are it possibly might... we'll see how it goes. I would prefer if he just didn't acknowledge the latter two films, rather than write them off either as dreams or false memory implants.

Don't get me wrong, I love Alien 3... and kind of can deal with Resurrection but I don't think he should touch them, hence given his statements, he's probably going to be ignoring them. But in the end.. does it even really matter? To me, it just means we can really pick and choose and shouldn't be a slave to what's deemed as canon. More camps for fans to be a part of.

I don't particularly believe Ridley that the intention was to always call the sequel Alien: Paradise Lost, because with the first one they tried to downplay the Alien link so much to just "strands of the same DNA".

Yeah, I don't believe that for one second either.

On topic, interesting to hear these will both be out in the same year.