just a conditioner as far as i understand. it does shine up nicely with a horsehair brush surprisingly.

Cranes, question for you:

I have some Obenauf's LP being delivered today that I am going to apply to an old pair of Wallabies that I use for walking the dog and also to the leather on a pair of Bean Boots. Is it ok to use the same horsehair brush that I use on my Natty CXL Trench Boots with Venetian shoe cream only or will the LP leave a residue on the brush?

I guess i don't see why "overkill" is. Bad thing, unless the product is detrimental to the health of the leather, it changes the appearance enough to bother the owner, or the finish is slightly more/ less shiny than desired.

I have been very happy with the obenaufs LP and if it's "overkill" with effectively no downside, why not use it? It's not like its expensive.

On top of that? If someone spills beer on your shoes or something, I don't think neatsfoot is going to repel the liquid or prevent stains as well as bees wax.

just a conditioner as far as i understand. it does shine up nicely with a horsehair brush surprisingly.

Cranes, question for you:

I have some Obenauf's LP being delivered today that I am going to apply to an old pair of Wallabies that I use for walking the dog and also to the leather on a pair of Bean Boots. Is it ok to use the same horsehair brush that I use on my Natty CXL Trench Boots with Venetian shoe cream only or will the LP leave a residue on the brush?

Depending on how much LP is in the boot when you use it, there can be residue on the brush.

If you use the brush to spread the LP around to get it in groves and stitches, it could be a decent amount.

just a conditioner as far as i understand. it does shine up nicely with a horsehair brush surprisingly.

Cranes, question for you:

I have some Obenauf's LP being delivered today that I am going to apply to an old pair of Wallabies that I use for walking the dog and also to the leather on a pair of Bean Boots. Is it ok to use the same horsehair brush that I use on my Natty CXL Trench Boots with Venetian shoe cream only or will the LP leave a residue on the brush?

The brush will end up with residue on it. I personally wouldn't worry about.

Neatsfoot oil is an animal fat. Animal fats can rot. It does keep leather supple, it can also eat the stitching as well. This has all been talked about and hashed over. After four years there's a reason why there's a preferred go to product list. While we're on the subject can someone come up with a list of ingredients in Venetian Shoe Cream?

Keeping Indigo stains to a minimum has also been discussed. Once stained it is almost impossible to remove and that's because of how Indigo bonds to a surface. That too was explained in detail.

tmchow, they're your boots. Do whatever you want to them. My problem with what you're saying is based on the fact that you have no real experience with caring for full grain leather and your advice is not based on any personal experience.

wow, there are quite a few different explanations for the bumps. dry rot, bacteria/fungi, moisture etc. i'll just wait and see what wolverine's reply will be. I really appreciate your help! thank you!

I just received a reply from Wolverine but I am no longer in the States. They said to send the shoes back for inspection but I feel it wouldn't make economical sense for me to send them halfway round the globe for this. It will probably end up as my shit-kicking boots in any case. However, I am still curious about the bumps and how to get rid of it.

tmchow, they're your boots. Do whatever you want to them. My problem with what you're saying is based on the fact that you have no real experience with caring for full grain leather and your advice is not based on any personal experience.

Let's be clear: I'm not giving advice, I was quoting from Nick Horween's advice that was quoted on reddit and asking a question based on that. I don't think I need first hand experience caring for leather to quote from someone who has and ask a question right?

As for obenauf's or sno-seal being "overkill", the Reddit post just meant "unnecesssary". I think the comment about stain repellant is a good one though.

I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers by my questions. It was truly just curiosity.

Can anyone help go v e me advice on how to treat rtf he leather on my Montgomery? Seems like saddle soap won't clean the indigo dye based on crane's reply. But what about condutioning and protecting with boot oil and HDLP? Is that ok despite the Montgomery leather o have being f2f distressed/treated in some way?

Let's be clear: I'm not giving advice, I was quoting from Nick Horween's advice that was quoted on reddit and asking a question based on that. I don't think I need first hand experience caring for leather to quote from someone who has and ask a question right?

As for obenauf's or sno-seal being "overkill", the Reddit post just meant "unnecesssary". I think the comment about stain repellant is a good one though.

I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers by my questions. It was truly just curiosity.

Can anyone help go v e me advice on how to treat rtf he leather on my Montgomery? Seems like saddle soap won't clean the indigo dye based on crane's reply. But what about condutioning and protecting with boot oil and HDLP? Is that ok despite the Montgomery leather o have being f2f distressed/treated in some way?

I have been thinking about your boots but I am always hesitant to put a waxy substance on distressed leather.

Last time I had some distressed leather in my hands I thought I could wax it. I chickened out though

Nick@Horween advised strongly against Lexol on Shell Cordovan, giving no explanation, while many others, including myself, have had good luck with Lexol on shell.

As far as I'm concerned, Nick@Horween's advice is baseless.

The proof is in the pudding; Crane's has well documented his exploits and care regime, and his boots look great and are holding up. It's also a simple an inexpensive treatment. I see little reason to deviate or experiment other than personal curiosity.

Nick's advice makes perfect sense from a business standpoint. 99% of his customers see CXL and shell as dress leathers, and they want patina and beauty, and worry about ruining that beauty. Most people barely leave the house with their expensive CXL/shell shoes, let alone walk through mud or whatever in them.

If he suggests care techniques that might change the color/look of his leathers, well, he's going to get a lot of complaints. So he gives advice that is better than nothing, advice that won't "ruin" the leather in the viewpoint of his customers. And for the rest of us, well, we have this thread, where alone on the internet we treat our CXL and shell cordovans in the traditional sense.