It's just that in most counties in America, the reason is "Because your neighbors shouldn't have to be responsible for controlling your pet." In parts of Florida, it's because "Your pet is incompatible with the local fauna."

It's pretty fair to state that the solution to that incompatibility is to regulate the pet, not exterminate the fauna.

Spent the early years of my childhood an area with rattlesnakes, black widow spiders and mountain lions. We were all fine without having to comb the countryside slaughtering anything that didn't walk on two legs.

Wild animals are a known risk like any other.

FARKIN' DEAL WITH IT.

I have issues with people who want to slaughter every non-bipedal apex predator on the planet so their kids and pets go from 99.9997% safe to 99.9998% safe. These people have serious neurotic issues.

Skail:I feel bad for the dog, but really, the guy should've kept his freaking puppy on the leash.

Honestly, that pup probably got a fate far better than half the cats and dogs in this country.

Quick Fixer:Yeah. I hate to be that guy, but we have leash laws for a reason.

It's just that in most counties in America, the reason is "Because your neighbors shouldn't have to be responsible for controlling your pet." In parts of Florida, it's because "Your pet is incompatible with the local fauna."

It's pretty fair to state that the solution to that incompatibility is to regulate the pet, not exterminate the fauna.

Leashes really don't do anything the stop this from happening. Florida is covered with sidewalks running along lakes and ponds, and we get stories all the time of pets getting nabbed, although it is usually gators.

dragonchild:Spent the early years of my childhood an area with rattlesnakes, black widow spiders and mountain lions. We were all fine without having to comb the countryside slaughtering anything that didn't walk on two legs.

Wild animals are a known risk like any other.

FARKIN' DEAL WITH IT.

I have issues with people who want to slaughter every non-bipedal apex predator on the planet so their kids and pets go from 99.9997% safe to 99.9998% safe. These people have serious neurotic issues.

Skail: I feel bad for the dog, but really, the guy should've kept his freaking puppy on the leash.

Honestly, that pup probably got a fate far better than half the cats and dogs in this country.

Was up visiting a friend rural PA and noticing all the wild life (he was two large flocks of wild turkeys and his property, tons of deer, the odd diamonback rattle snake etc) and he causually mentions that in the winter he often gets large balck bears up on the porch looking for trash or attracted by the BBQ. I joking said "so I take it you have a 30.06 in the house for just such occasions?" and he looks at me funny and says "nah why would I need that? They usually mosey off after a few minutes and have only made me really late for work once or twice."

dragonchild:I have issues with people who want to slaughter every non-bipedal apex predator on the planet so their kids and pets go from 99.9997% safe to 99.9998% safe. These people have serious neurotic issues.

I wouldn't have a problem with it if these same people weren't didn't have the same attitude about anything that slows down traffic.

That's not really how the laws on Endangered Species work. If the critter is actually threatening mankind, it's going to get transferred or terminated. If all it does is nibble on a dumbass' pet that he let out into the wild, then that's just.....

pugsleythegreat://Say didn't we have this exact same thread last season, with the un-leashed dog getting devoured by a croc?

Florida is never going to run out of idiotic pet owners.

You could kill every croc in the state and they'll still find a way to get their pets killed. You can't protect someone from stupidity. We're better off using the bullets on the idiots. At least the crocs have an excuse in that they have smaller brains.

I love dogs. Have always had one (with very short stretches w/o) for 45+ years. Having said that, and with several experiences with Jack Russells, if that was the last breed on Earth, I think I'd pass.

Glock17:I would get my .357 and go croc hunting. Fark em. If they are stupid enough to go extinct, then let them do so.Humans and our lives/property/pets/children > Stupid Crocodile.

Good luck with that. Dad tells me that when he and his father steamed up the Orrinocco River (in Venezuela) in the early 60's the standard croc defense for skiffs and launches was a man in the bow with a Thompson SMG, as anything lighter was likely to merely annoy it, and even on land crocs can move as fast as a racehorse for short distances (say while charging)

dragonchild:pugsleythegreat: //Say didn't we have this exact same thread last season, with the un-leashed dog getting devoured by a croc?

Florida is never going to run out of idiotic pet owners.

You could kill every croc in the state and they'll still find a way to get their pets killed. You can't protect someone from stupidity. We're better off using the bullets on the idiots. At least the crocs have an excuse in that they have smaller brains.

I wasn't kidding when I said this dog is better off than most.

Well, crocodiles are relatively rare in the US, but even if you wiped them out, alligators are a dime a dozen and perfectly willing to fill the dog eating niche the crocs would leave behind.

I'm left with the question: who thinks it's a good idea to let your damn dog off the leash in a state infested with stealthy carnivorous reptiles? I wouldn't take my dog to Yellowstone and let it off the leash in Grizzly territory, that's just taunting Darwin.

EWreckedSean:Quick Fixer: Yeah. I hate to be that guy, but we have leash laws for a reason.

It's just that in most counties in America, the reason is "Because your neighbors shouldn't have to be responsible for controlling your pet." In parts of Florida, it's because "Your pet is incompatible with the local fauna."

It's pretty fair to state that the solution to that incompatibility is to regulate the pet, not exterminate the fauna.

Leashes really don't do anything the stop this from happening. Florida is covered with sidewalks running along lakes and ponds, and we get stories all the time of pets getting nabbed, although it is usually gators.

Oh, that's sad.

I'm afraid that what I know about crocodile behavior could fill a terrier. Is it one of those situations where they move fast enough that by the time you see it coming, it's already got Sprinkles in its jaws?

If so, I question the wisdom of putting sidewalks so near bodies of water that are likely to house dangerous predators, but I can understand how that happens. They should put up warning signs and make sure information about that risk is widely understood. Now, if that's already been done... *shrug*

Quick Fixer:EWreckedSean: Quick Fixer: Yeah. I hate to be that guy, but we have leash laws for a reason.

It's just that in most counties in America, the reason is "Because your neighbors shouldn't have to be responsible for controlling your pet." In parts of Florida, it's because "Your pet is incompatible with the local fauna."

It's pretty fair to state that the solution to that incompatibility is to regulate the pet, not exterminate the fauna.

Leashes really don't do anything the stop this from happening. Florida is covered with sidewalks running along lakes and ponds, and we get stories all the time of pets getting nabbed, although it is usually gators.

Oh, that's sad.

I'm afraid that what I know about crocodile behavior could fill a terrier. Is it one of those situations where they move fast enough that by the time you see it coming, it's already got Sprinkles in its jaws?

If so, I question the wisdom of putting sidewalks so near bodies of water that are likely to house dangerous predators, but I can understand how that happens. They should put up warning signs and make sure information about that risk is widely understood. Now, if that's already been done... *shrug*

why not question the wisdom of our rampant expansionism and turning every empty plot of land into a suburb?

It scares me when people think that humans shouldn't limit their population.

Girion47:Quick Fixer: EWreckedSean: Quick Fixer: Yeah. I hate to be that guy, but we have leash laws for a reason.

It's just that in most counties in America, the reason is "Because your neighbors shouldn't have to be responsible for controlling your pet." In parts of Florida, it's because "Your pet is incompatible with the local fauna."

It's pretty fair to state that the solution to that incompatibility is to regulate the pet, not exterminate the fauna.

Leashes really don't do anything the stop this from happening. Florida is covered with sidewalks running along lakes and ponds, and we get stories all the time of pets getting nabbed, although it is usually gators.

Oh, that's sad.

I'm afraid that what I know about crocodile behavior could fill a terrier. Is it one of those situations where they move fast enough that by the time you see it coming, it's already got Sprinkles in its jaws?

If so, I question the wisdom of putting sidewalks so near bodies of water that are likely to house dangerous predators, but I can understand how that happens. They should put up warning signs and make sure information about that risk is widely understood. Now, if that's already been done... *shrug*

why not question the wisdom of our rampant expansionism and turning every empty plot of land into a suburb?

It scares me when people think that humans shouldn't limit their population.

I agree with you. If I believed humans had unlimited manifest destiny, I'd be asking why the game commission won't declare open season on this endangered predators species. Because my genes are screaming "Screw predators."

I wonder what happened to those 4 whole chickens I bought at the store...you know, the ones that had water ballons full of antifreeze stuffed inside the carcass for safe keeping. I set them down by the canal and now they are gone. Lost forever I guess.

Quick Fixer:I'm curious about how the current coexistence strategies work.

Generally it's a delicate balance between Keynesian economists who understand that continued expansion is necessary to fund exponential entitlement programs and ecologists who understand the social impact of anthromorphically distributed invasive species. This result in a delicate resource management strategy that combines our agricultural, industrial and residential needs with biosphere diversity.

That's if you've been taking acid. Really it's a media-fed shouting match between seal-farking tree-huggers and an absurd coalition of "fark animals" rednecks and "fark rednecks" businessmen. In the middle, corrupt politicians and developers make backdoor deals to turn the Everglades into Everglades Homes.