Surviving R. Kelly: Lisa VanAllen Speaks Out (Episode 2) | Lifetime

Survivor Lisa VanAllen shares her story in this clip from Episode 2. #LifetimeSubscribe for more Lifetime shows:thexvid.com/user/lifetimeCheck out exclusive Lifetime content:Website - www.mylifetime.comFacebook - facebook.com/lifetimeTwitter - twitter.com/lifetimetvGoogle+ - plus.google.com/+Lifetime/postsLifetime® is a premier female-focused entertainment destination dedicated to providing viewers with a diverse selection of critically acclaimed and award-winning original movies, scripted dramas, and unscripted programming. A favorite and trusted network for women, we are continually building on our heritage by attracting top Hollywood talent and producing shows that are modern, sexy, exciting, daring, and provocative. Visit us at myLifetime.com for more info.

First off I'm glad she's speaking out. I imagine she feels much better getting these things off her chest and she's helping build a case against R Kelly just by telling her story, whether she was abused or not. But what she's describing sounds like a bdsm relationship, like something they would've come to an agreement on at one point or another. She agreed to do a lot of things. And she was of legal age. Other stories such as R Kellys ex wife's really moved me, but every woman's story is just as important, for the case.

One thing I'm not defending him but some of these girls go to him wasted or I'm drugs and yes that is his fault for even touching them but why did you think to speak about it now since some of them of them know they would get money or they want to ruin his career but if you were that distraught by this then why would you wait you could've talk to someone that you trust and if that could work write down your feeling and throw it away bc with that in your life you can't ever get over it.but at least try not to Remember it and again I don't agree at all with him and I'm only 13 and know what you've gone thru bc I understand it from a woman's pov.

"One who winks his eyes to plot perversities, One who compresses his lips, is bent on evil." Watching the videos of allegations against rkelly one can notice that all of the woman wink with their eyes and especially his former wife compresses her lips at all times when telling they were abused … ALL LIES!

I watched the entire show and of all the women Lisa and Sparkle crying was fake. I didn't see any tears like with some of the others. It seemed staged. This woman (Lisa) is just as quilty as R. Kelly for having a threesome with the 14 year old.

All the people that allowed him to do this including his team failed this Young’s girls aswell and are just as guilty as Robert kelly is they should all be thrown the key and locked up for the rest of there life’s

It's obvious that Kelly is a sick man....but what is sick to me as well is how all these girls parents didn't care about there daughters....imagine how many women would have been saved if their parents were parents

Any wise women would get out of such a situation fast. I don’t wanna here all this ! You put yourself in this position ! You wanted his $ ... now you complain about it ! You could of called the police 🚔 and ran away . But nooo money is the motivation! And honestly R jelly you like little girls and boys I don’t wanna here it ...

This why R.Kelly wanted girls to pee in the bucket URINE LOVE SPELL VODOOIn European -- especially Italian -- folk magic, as well as in hoodoo, urine is used in women's coffee and tea love spells, as a quick substitute for menstrual blood, when the intention is to tie or bind a lover. This is particularly common among girls to young or women too old to have menstrual periods, and among pregnant women and those who for any other reason don;t menstruate. Men also can put urine in a drink to tie a woman, although this is not mentioned so commonly.In hoodoo, and in polite Southern speech generally, urine is often called "chamber lye" or "water." No matter what you call it, one of the oldest root work traditions is for a male gambler to have a female lover urinate on his mojo bag or lucky hand while he is at play. If the gambler and his partner can retire to an alley to perform the act while the game is in progress, so much the better. This is called "feeding the mojo," and the use of the word "feed" is, of course an indicative link to African magico-religious thought, from whence this custom derives. (Lodestones are also "fed" in hoodoo -- with magnetic sand.) Women players rarely ask a man to urinate on their mojo hands, so, for whatever reason, it is female urine that is considered lucky in this case.Chamber lye can be a vulnerable spot in a man or woman's periphery. An enemy who gets your "water" can cause grave damage to you by stopping it up in a bottle with red pepper and Graveyard Dirt. The result will be urinary tract problems, ranging from cystitis and nephritis to prostatitis and kidney stones. The only way to take off such a condition is to find the bottle and destroy it, letting the urine run out into a fire.Conversely, chamber lye has its strengths -- a man can use his own urination to cure a case of impotence that was put on him through magic. Peeing on a knife blade and letting the pee run on the ground is one of many methods for accomplishing this. Another is to urinate into a red ants nest. Women who have had their natures hoodooed can pee into a running river as they call on the river to take off the jinx.I should also add a quick comment on the term "chamber lye" for readers who are not native English speakers:Chamber: A chamber means a room, so in the old days a bedroom was called a bed chamber. With no indoor plumbing, you went outdoors to pee in an outhouse, but the first pee of the morning, before dressing or washing up, most folks didn't want to go out, so they peed in a covered container called a chamber pot, which was carried out later.Lye: This is an old Anglo Saxon word meaning any strong alkaline liquid. Most of the time nowadays you'll hear the word lye in reference to making soap at home, where one good source of lye is potash -- literally pot ashes. You make potash or pot ash lye by concentrating water that has run through the ashes collected from the fire under your cooking pots. Since there is no one chemical formula for lye; in common parlance it can be any really strong alkaline solution. So a polite word for urine used to be "chamber lye" -- an alkaline solution obtained in the bed chamber.So... "chamber pot" plus "pot ash lye" equals "chamber pot lye" -- which is shortened to "chamber lye"!

Definitely could’ve walked away! But yes it is wrong to sleep with under age girls but 2 wrongs don’t make a right they knew exactly what they was doing!! When I was 15 I was asked to try a hallucinate drug... but I said no because I knew right from wrong and I didn’t have a gun forced to my head!!! I guess my question is why make a whole documentary on this just go to your local high school and the girls talk to older man all the time these things go on every day un noticed let’s be real

Honest question for all the people calling these 14-17 yr olds "children", here: if these same "children" were talking about getting gender reassignment, what would be the tone of your comments here? Would you still maintain that they dont know any better and can't/shouldn't be allowed to make their own decisions or would your tune change?

I dont watch these videos I mean from the picture of when y'all was together you dont look like that I mean were you hoping for his come up and now you look completely different and your making new records of old that could been reported years ago I mean it does seem to happen like especially when the people are exactly who they knew they would be

I haven’t seen the whole thing yet but in this clip in a court of law there’s nothing wrong. She saw an openly placed camera and by the sounds of it consented to a threesome. Yes he manipulated her but psychological manipulation isn’t a crime.

Ave come to accept that this stories are fake and someone oils the pockets, many men have had their careers ended just like that by some crazy story and its usually some of the best people around, if this isn't same script as MJ's then i dont know OJ too now its kelly soon they will pull the rug from under jayz's,kanye,RickRoss,lilwayne could be anybody all a while using gender violence as a weapon. THIS ARE ALL BUT PAID ACTORS. DONT CONDONE IT IT COULD BE YOU ON THE 6 O'CLOCK

The guy thought he cud fly for God's sake...jus step in the name of love. Meanwhile there r very real things going on like global water crisis and starvation. Plus my phone company doesn't always give me what I paid for.

I see so many comments and so many truly upset people saying R Kelly should be in prison...and I agree..he should be ...along with Lisa...his entire camp who knew what was going on..and the parents of this 13 year old child who was raped by Kelly and Lisa...unfortunely he was the only one brought to trial and was acquitted because the girls parents said it was not her..even though her auntie and others clearly identified her. Now after all these years not one of these young women or his ex wife ever pressed criminal charges...so what is he going to jail for?

Sad part is everyone played a roll in his evil plans, his staff and the accusers parents.. Seems like as long as that check was cut no one cared... And now that the emotional weight is taking a toll everyone wants justice... He should have been stopped.. Period.

*What Lifetime & Lisa Van Allen didn't tell you. From the court room...She received immunity from the state's attorney and U.S. attorney for any crimes she might have committed aka child molestation & extortion*

Pray For R. Kelly: God we ask You in Jesus’ name that You will touch R. (Robert) Kelly and save, heal, deliver, and set him free. God he needs help. He needs You. God do the inner-healing in his life that is needed. Show him, himself and show him the areas You God want to work on in his life. Show him where he is wrong. Let him not harden his heart, but be open for the inner-healing, deliverance, and the great things You want to do for him and in his life. Let R. Kelly partner with You (his Savior and Lord) and work on these areas. Bless him to become all You created him to be and nothing less. God use R. Kelly for Your glory and good pleasure. God all that we have asked of You in this prayer, please do the same for everyone who prays this prayer over R. Kelly’s life and every Christian that I know. But God most importantly, save, heal deliver, and set free eachand every man, woman, and child (including his children) he has hurt in any way, shape or form. God we all need more of You. Bless each of us with more of You. Help us all Lord Jesus. Thank You. Amen, so be it, and it is so.

President Trump was doing the same thing has done the same thing whatever you may call it it's wrong that R Kelly is doing it but I do not like that you guys elected a guy who did the same thing you guys not black balling everything he's doing and I just upfront do not believe some of these women as a victim myself I will never turn my back on someone who is speaking out but some of these allegations are just crazy not speaking on her documentary or this particular film