For those not familiar with Preacher, it is a comic book written by Garth Ennis and drawn by Steve Dillon, first published in the mid-nineties under the Vertigo imprint of DC comics. It follows the travels of a small town Texas preacher by the name of Jesse Custer, his former (and sometimes current) girlfriend Tulip O'Hare, and a mysterious and supernatural Irishman by the name of Cassidy, as they search the world for a God that has abandoned his throne. They are assisted in their journey by a powerful supernatural presence that finds a home in Jesse's body early in the comic, and which grants him a certain power. To avoid giving away too much of the plot, that's about as much as I'm willing to say. If you haven't read the comic, the first episode of the new TV series establishes the characters and Jesse's new-found power, and so knowing much more might technically count as a spoiler.

Preacher was the first comic I read and seriously enjoyed in my youth. It was equal parts serious drama and bloody, juvenile violence -- the exact kind of mix that appeals to a kid on the cusp of his teenage years. I'd followed the various failed adaptation over the years, first when it was being shopped around, then seriously considered for a series by HBO, and later when the property owners were mulling turning it into a film. When AMC finally first expressed interest in funding it, I thought nothing would come from it. But lo and behold, it appears to finally have made it out of the woods. Sunday is the premiere of the first episode.

A couple weeks ago, I caught the first episode at a marketing event and was seriously impressed. It is directed by Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg (the former known for being a goofy stoner, the latter for his comedy films), and while I was happy that the series had some heavyweights behind it, I was also a little nervous about their pedigree going into the showing. Almost all of my concerns were put to rest by the end of the first episode. By my estimate, it's far and away the best television adaptation of a comic book in recent memory. Had Batman: The Animated Series not existed, I'd be tempted to call it the best, period. As it stands, however, it does a superb job in capturing the anarchic spirit of the comics while making the material palatable for television audiences. Goldberg and Rogen move into producer roles in subsequent episodes, but Sam Catlin (of Breaking Bad) will take the mantle of showrunner and see the series through the rest of the season. From his previous work, and his recent interviews about the adaptation, I'm excited to see what Catlin brings to the table.

If you're interested, you can watch the trailer for the series here. The premiere will be airing tonight on AMC

For those not familiar with Preacher, it is a comic book written by Garth Ennis and drawn by Steve Dillon, first published in the mid-nineties under the Vertigo imprint of DC comics. It follows the travels of a small town Texas preacher by the name of Jesse Custer, his former (and sometimes current) girlfriend Tulip O'Hare, and a mysterious and supernatural Irishman by the name of Cassidy, as they search the world for a God that has abandoned his throne. They are assisted in their journey by a powerful supernatural presence that finds a home in Jesse's body early in the comic, and which grants him a certain power. To avoid giving away too much of the plot, that's about as much as I'm willing to say. If you haven't read the comic, the first episode of the new TV series establishes the characters and Jesse's new-found power, and so knowing much more might technically count as a spoiler.

Preacher was the first comic I read and seriously enjoyed in my youth. It was equal parts serious drama and bloody, juvenile violence -- the exact kind of mix that appeals to a kid on the cusp of his teenage years. I'd followed the various failed adaptation over the years, first when it was being shopped around, then seriously considered for a series by HBO, and later when the property owners were mulling turning it into a film. When AMC finally first expressed interest in funding it, I thought nothing would come from it. But lo and behold, it appears to finally have made it out of the woods. Sunday is the premiere of the first episode.

A couple weeks ago, I caught the first episode at a marketing event and was seriously impressed. It is directed by Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg (the former known for being a goofy stoner, the latter for his comedy films), and while I was happy that the series had some heavyweights behind it, I was also a little nervous about their pedigree going into the showing. Almost all of my concerns were put to rest by the end of the first episode. By my estimate, it's far and away the best television adaptation of a comic book in recent memory. Had Batman: The Animated Series not existed, I'd be tempted to call it the best, period. As it stands, however, it does a superb job in capturing the anarchic spirit of the comics while making the material palatable for television audiences. Goldberg and Rogen move into producer roles in subsequent episodes, but Sam Catlin (of Breaking Bad) will take the mantle of showrunner and see the series through the rest of the season. From his previous work, and his recent interviews about the adaptation, I'm excited to see what Catlin brings to the table.

If you're interested, you can watch the trailer for the series here. The premiere will be airing tonight on AMC

I am so excited for this show I am practically buzzing. I LOVED Preacher the comic, and I actually think that with Rogen/Goldberg, two people who are serious fans and also good at what they do and who have some clout in Hollywood, the show is going to be adapted in a good way. All the previews I have seen look amazing. I really can't wait.

They have been advertising this mercilessly, and the trailers, to me, are close to incomprehensible. I had not planned on watching, but the review in the San Jose Merc this week was very positive, so I'll give it a try.

They have been advertising this mercilessly, and the trailers, to me, are close to incomprehensible. I had not planned on watching, but the review in the San Jose Merc this week was very positive, so I'll give it a try.

I know how you feel. Even as a reader of the comics, the trailers and advertisements for this have been indecipherable. It is impossible to get a sense of what the series it's about, which is why I'm slightly concerned about how it will be received.

I know how you feel. Even as a reader of the comics, the trailers and advertisements for this have been indecipherable. It is impossible to get a sense of what the series it's about, which is why I'm slightly concerned about how it will be received.

Saw Ep.1 and . . .eeeeh. I felt the director was trying to shock us with one blood-soaked outrage after another. And, no I didn't read or give a rats ass about the comic book. This is just me as a viewer.

Don't find the Jesse Custer character all that interesting. He's a preacher with a mysterious past who drinks, smokes and kicks ass. Yawn.

Even the Irish guy from the airplane, OK I get it, he's some sort of demon. Been there, done that.

I'm willing to give the show a chance, but it really needs to hook me soon or its just going to be another "Into the Badlands".

I really enjoyed the pilot, I thought it was a pretty good introduction to the show and characters. I read all the comics but it's been a few years so I don't remember everything, but I do remember some of the more gruesome events. I'm looking forward to one character being told what to do by the "Word of God."

I loved Tulip; in the books she was good with a gun but still felt more like mainly a girlfriend/ex-girlfriend character. At least from the first episode the show's Tulip feels more like a badass criminal type who happens to be the ex-girlfriend. I liked Cassidy and loved his fight on the plane, but I did need to turn on closed captioning to understand everything he said. Jesse didn't stand out as much, but he's also somewhat depressed and lost at the beginning, I could see as he feels more a sense of purpose he'll get more interesting. But his fight scene was well done, and I liked that it was the first time we saw him smile. Dominic Cooper did do well showing the conflict that Jesse's feeling, he was well cast, just like everyone else was on the show.

Definitely not a show for everyone, but I've seen lots of good reviews and good buzz about it, so hopefully it's a big enough hit to keep going for a while. I'm annoyed that they premiered it and then are taking a break next week, hopefully that doesn't hurt it too much.

I get it, but also Preacher doesn't feel any more aimed towards teenagers than most movies or TV now. Just before Preacher I was watching Game of Thrones which is known for it's fighting and nudity and dragons and fantasy. And AMC's other two big shows right now are about killing zombies. And Preacher does have the potential to go some interesting places with religion and faith, and from what little we've seen so far I don't think they'll shy away from it too much. I liked Jesse's talk with Arseface about what God would forgive and if he's even listening, and Jesse's prayer in the church by himself.

Everyone's free to have their opinion and to like it or not, but I definitely don't think it's just for teenagers. I think I would have liked the show as a teenager (although it wouldn't have been made back then), but I think I'll be able to appreciate it more now.

Just watched it last night. I was a huge fan of the comics1, and enjoyed the pilot. I was a little confused by Cassidy's fight on the plane, mostly because I had a hard time understanding him. That was due to a combination of his incredibly thick accent2, and the low volume I had the TV on.3 I figured it had to do with the bible he found in the head. I'm guessing the folks on the plane are with Starr's organization, but what did Cassidy say that got them all looking so sheepish just before the fight?

They also got Arseface right. He's just a good kid with a bad face.

1- I still have my "Fuck Communism" zippo.
2 - The dude's been in the US for nearly a hundred years - you'd think that would have softened it a bit.
3 - My MIL is visiting, and the guest room is right off the Man Cave, and I rather not keep people awake.

I enjoyed the first episode. It's certainly way better than Game of Thrones

Perhaps....but I don't think so. I liked Preacher a little bit, but I did find myself confused watching it. It might have been better than Game of Thrones pilot, though.

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Just watched it last night. I was a huge fan of the comics1, and enjoyed the pilot. I was a little confused by Cassidy's fight on the plane, mostly because I had a hard time understanding him. That was due to a combination of his incredibly thick accent2, and the low volume I had the TV on.3 [/SIZE]

I also could not follow that scene. For me, the music was too loudly mixed and Cassidy's voice was muddled. I don't have this problem all the time like some people do. I really had no idea what was going on. He was serving drinks and then was fighting and killing.

My understandings, which I would love if you all would correct:

So, Tulip's first scene was a flashback, right? But she knows Preacher-guy and is now staying in the town they are in. Cassidy just met Preacher-guy in the pilot, which we saw.

A magic force, from space, comes down and possesses people(specifically religious presenters making their presentations). They usually blow up, but Preacher did not. He can tell people what to do if he concentrates really hard and they will literally do it. Two guys are investigating the force from space. We saw them in Africa, Russia, and I think they showed up at the end of the pilot in Preacher's town.

Preacher is leaving town now because he was a criminal and he has failed to redeem himself or be successful. He's going with Tulip to do crime. And Cassidy...is coming with? I guess? Even though they just met?

I also could not follow that scene. For me, the music was too loudly mixed and Cassidy's voice was muddled. I don't have this problem all the time like some people do. I really had no idea what was going on. He was serving drinks and then was fighting and killing.

My understandings, which I would love if you all would correct:

So, Tulip's first scene was a flashback, right? But she knows Preacher-guy and is now staying in the town they are in. Cassidy just met Preacher-guy in the pilot, which we saw.

A magic force, from space, comes down and possesses people(specifically religious presenters making their presentations). They usually blow up, but Preacher did not. He can tell people what to do if he concentrates really hard and they will literally do it. Two guys are investigating the force from space. We saw them in Africa, Russia, and I think they showed up at the end of the pilot in Preacher's town.

Preacher is leaving town now because he was a criminal and he has failed to redeem himself or be successful. He's going with Tulip to do crime. And Cassidy...is coming with? I guess? Even though they just met?

Was all that previous two paragraphs right?

Cassidy was hired to work on the plane, but when he went to the bathroom he found that Bible with all the weird stuff scrawled in it, which indicated to him that the men were part of a secretive organization that wants to kill him. Possibly because he's a vampire, but maybe also because he seems to be working with some organization of his own indicated by his phone call at the bar. It's unknown to us for the moment who exactly they are, or how Cassidy would know who they are and that they would want to kill him, or why they were flying him somewhere instead of just killing him at the airport or something, but I'm sure that some of the blanks will be filled in as it goes.

Tulip and Jesse knew each other and dated when they were younger, got into various troubles together and split. Tulip's car scene was a flashback, she's back in town wanting to get Jesse to run off, but so far he's not going to. He said in his sermon at the end that he's going to try harder and be the preacher that they need. But it does seem unlikely he'll be sticking around in town for too long.

You've pretty much got everything right with the force from space and the power and the investigators. I'm sure that will be explained more as the show goes on.

I also could not follow that scene. For me, the music was too loudly mixed and Cassidy's voice was muddled. I don't have this problem all the time like some people do. I really had no idea what was going on. He was serving drinks and then was fighting and killing.

He also said something along the lines of, but if this plane is headed to Vegas (I think?), then why are we flying towards the sun? (They likely did because, well, that's what you do if you want to kill a vampire.) That's when the killing starts.

And call me juvenile if you want, but damn, I thought that (meaning the pilot ep) was awesome!

He also said something along the lines of, but if this plane is headed to Vegas (I think?), then why are we flying towards the sun? (They likely did because, well, that's what you do if you want to kill a vampire.) That's when the killing starts.

And call me juvenile if you want, but damn, I thought that (meaning the pilot ep) was awesome!

"If TJ is south of Vegas why are we flying towards the sun?" he realized they were kidnapping him because they knew he was a Vampire. He thought they were all going to Tiajuana to see things that make donkey shows look tame.

I was a little confused by Cassidy's fight on the plane, mostly because I had a hard time understanding him. That was due to a combination of his incredibly thick accent2, and the low volume I had the TV on.

There is an easy fix to this. Just turn on Closed Captions. When the scene is done turn it off.

I doubt there is a modern TV today that doesn't offer it (often with just one button push on the remote).

You are wrong. There is no one who was a comic collector in the 90s who would agree with you. It was an adult comic book so sales are low compaired to Spawn and Gen13. But it was not obscure or minor. It was a pillar of the Vertigo Imprint.

You are wrong. There is no one who was a comic collector in the 90s who would agree with you. It was an adult comic book so sales are low compaired to Spawn and Gen13. But it was not obscure or minor. It was a pillar of the Vertigo Imprint.

It's a minor and obscure comic, one of a couple that focuses on the major character smoking, and it's one of the few being made into a TV show. Ipso facto.

By your own numbers above if 20,000 is good then 30,000-50,000 and 50th in sales is at least pretty good. Maybe not outstanding but neither obscure or minor. As mentioned it wasn't targeted to a younger market so its numbers likely would never be as high as others.

And I find it hard to think that Ennis only had Custer smoke because big tobacco paid him off.

As for a TV show on it the show is produced by Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg. They grew up with this stuff. It is exactly the sort of thing they'd want to do. So again I doubt it took big tobacco money to make it happen.

By your own numbers above if 20,000 is good then 30,000-50,000 and 50th in sales is at least pretty good. Maybe not outstanding but neither obscure or minor. As mentioned it wasn't targeted to a younger market so its numbers likely would never be as high as others.

And I find it hard to think that Ennis only had Custer smoke because big tobacco paid him off.

Did you look at what was above it? It's 50th in sales because it wasn't being sold to kids under 18 without a parent. That's a large amount of buyers who weren't getting it. It outsold the Justice League of America, and if you scroll down your list it was the #2 Trade Paperback sold that year. Also, a top 50 anything is usually considered a hit.

You're asking to prove a negative, and somehow even if that was possible, I get the impression you'd just say that it was "hidden carefully."

So, instead of living in your world where Big Tobacco is pulling the strings of every aspect of human life, I think I'm gonna assume that AMC realized that they were having great success with adaptations of edgy / adult comics & graphic novels, and so Preacher was the next one on their list.

I mean, if it shows Jesse wearing jeans, is that proof that the show is secretly being funded by Big Denim?

Obscure is good. When the source material is too popular and recent, like the Walking Dead, there is too much discussion on whether or not the storyline is faithful to the comics. This way, most people will see Preacher with fresh eyes.

So, instead of living in your world where Big Tobacco is pulling the strings of every aspect of human life, I think I'm gonna assume that AMC realized that they were having great success with adaptations of edgy / adult comics & graphic novels, and so Preacher was the next one on their list.

I mean, if it shows Jesse wearing jeans, is that proof that the show is secretly being funded by Big Denim?

1. Name three.

2. No, because Big Denim can just buy ads publicly. they don't have to hide their connections.

Exactly. Why are very minor, obscure comics being made into shows? the characters were all smokers in the comics.

Funded by Big Tobacco.

Take basically any list of greatest graphic novels, like this one; you're pretty much guaranteed to find it on there---in this case, on number 15, above the likes of Batman: The Killing Joke, The Walking Dead (as seen on TV), and 300 (you might have heard about a little film they did based on that one). Not really all that minor and obscure.

Besides, I'm starting to think that it's in fact you that's being sponsored by Big Tobacco in some sort of viral reverse-psychology marketing scheme; certainly, few things have made me want to light up more in recent years than your conspiracy mongering.

Take basically any list of greatest graphic novels, like this one; you're pretty much guaranteed to find it on there---in this case, on number 15, above the likes of Batman: The Killing Joke, The Walking Dead (as seen on TV), and 300 (you might have heard about a little film they did based on that one). Not really all that minor and obscure.

Besides, I'm starting to think that it's in fact you that's being sponsored by Big Tobacco in some sort of viral reverse-psychology marketing scheme; certainly, few things have made me want to light up more in recent years than your conspiracy mongering.

I actually just read the entire series last week in anticipation of the tv show. I remember it well from the 90's and it just looked far too needlessly violent to me then. My view hasn't changed in the 20 years.

Some really good ideas in the comic book but the constant rape, sodomy (obsession with sodomy) and the fact that the bad guys all suffered from Stormtrooper can't hit a thing syndrome took me out of it.

As for a TV show on it the show is produced by Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg. They grew up with this stuff. It is exactly the sort of thing they'd want to do. So again I doubt it took big tobacco money to make it happen.

This.

Spare me from talk about "Big Tobacco". "Big Tobacco" owns Kraft, which makes a ranch dressing I like. The same company that sells marlboros also sells you shredded chedder cheese. That's Phillip Morris. They make far more money in foodstuffs than they do tobacco. And then there's RJR/Nabisco, which does the same thing.

The companies that semi-conspiracy theorists mean when they are talking about "Big Tobacco" don't actually make all that much money from tobacco. Sure, it's a big chunk, so don't throw numbers at me, but they have known the writing is on the wall for decades. That's why they got into food.

Anyway, it's not crooked money. I just watched the first episode of the show we should be talking about, and I want more. I don't really care if the makers of velveeta or nilla wafers chipped in to make it happen.

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