...but he sure sounds like a guy whom has his head properly wrapped around the problem... and he seems to be focusing on stumping for more funding, which is going to be key in clearing some of the time-critical problems, I think.

Flight tests of the Crew Launch Vehicleâ€™s (CLV) upper stage will begin in the second quarter of 2011, according to the development timetable presented at NASAâ€™s industry day on 19 April.

The CLV upper stage will push the four-/six-person Crew Exploration Vehicle (CEV) from a suborbital trajectory into low- Earth orbit (LEO). The CEV/CLV first and upper stage stack will be 94m (309ft) tall, have a gross take- off weight of 909,000kg (2 million pounds) and have a 25t-to-LEO payload capacity. The flight tests will continue through 2011 and 2012.

During the CLVâ€™s 10min flight the first stage will separate after 131s at 195,600ft and the upper stage engine fire at 133s and burn for 463s. During this time the CEV capsuleâ€™s launch abort system is ejected. The 5.5m-diameter aluminum-lithium upper stage will be powered by a Apollo-derivative liquid-oxygen/liquid-hydrogen J-2X engine and will contain the avionics and reaction control system, providing the roll control needed for the first stageâ€™s flight.

A request for proposals for the upper stage is planned for the fourth quarter of 2007.

According to the industry day presentation by CLV upper-stage element manager Danny Davis, the contract would be placed by the third quarter of 2008.

The schedule also shows that manufacturing process development will begin this year and avionics development tests should start in the second quarter of 2008. At the same time the battleship stage will organise engine hot fire and pressurisation system performance tests.

From the end of 2008 the vibration test article work starts, which sees dynamic testing at NASA Marshall Spaceflight Center in Alabama. The qualification hardware fabrication and testing is in the first quarter of 2009 and flight unit manufacturing starts in 2010.

Although the CLV and NASAâ€™s proposed 125t-to-LEO Cargo Launch Vehicle are described as Shuttle-derived, NASA designates the CLV upper stage as a clean-sheet design.

The systems requirement review for the CLVâ€™s first stage will be in September, at the same time as the CEV. ATK has been awarded a $28.6 million contract to continue developing the first stage, which is a recoverable five-segment solid rocket booster that uses polybutadiene acrylonitride propellant.

Agreed, Apollo was pretty quick but then money was no object, things are a bit diffferent today.

Boehlert is one of NASA's biggest supporters and even he is saying there is not enough cash to plug the gap between shuttle retirement and CEV flying. I think it is starting to look like the shuttle will fly after 2010.

_________________A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

The guys at astronautic think NASA has made a mistake with CEV capsule design:

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It looked like the errors of the original Apollo program would be repeated. A three-module spacecraft, as used successfully on Soyuz and Shenzhou, was rejected. Instead the sole crew habitat space would be the re-entry vehicle, which would be a 41% scaled up version of the Apollo command module. This would have over three times the internal volume and double the surface area of the Apollo capsule, but NASA claimed its mass could be limited to only 50% more than the Apollo design. Despite the increase in volume and mass, it would provide accommodation for only four to six crew (versus three to five in Apollo).