So what exactly is that graph measuring? If you look at GDP or GNP the US is two to three times as large as China. Plus, China's economy is almost entirely dependent on the US and other wealthy nations buying Chinese produced goods. If the US were to be suddenly wiped off the map it would be much worse for China than if the reverse were to happen for the US.

TuteTibiImperes:So what exactly is that graph measuring? If you look at GDP or GNP the US is two to three times as large as China. Plus, China's economy is almost entirely dependent on the US and other wealthy nations buying Chinese produced goods. If the US were to be suddenly wiped off the map it would be much worse for China than if the reverse were to happen for the US.

It's also hugely dependent on a massive credit scheme (bubble) that's not long for this world.

Is that a photo or a render? Some of the textures look a bit off, but if it's a photo, that huge building with what appear to be a ton of satellite dishes on the lower segment is very cool looking. What is it?

TuteTibiImperes:fusillade762: We could beat them if we weren't such pussies.

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C'mon, slap a handkerchief over your face and get back to work!

Is that a photo or a render? Some of the textures look a bit off, but if it's a photo, that huge building with what appear to be a ton of satellite dishes on the lower segment is very cool looking. What is it?

itcamefromschenectady:themindiswatching: Mugato: I thought everyone knew this. Go somewhere other than a gun store and try to find something not made in China. I mean you can do it but it'll take a few tries.

My employer's products for the US market assembled in the US, at least.

Is that a photo or a render? Some of the textures look a bit off, but if it's a photo, that huge building with what appear to be a ton of satellite dishes on the lower segment is very cool looking. What is it?

CCTV offices. Architect Rem Koolhaas (OMA), who also did the Seattle Public Library, and many other intersting buildings.

ColonelCathcart:This blog has never actually been to that bubble that is china. Here is what china is like:

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/Homer is Xi Xinping//The dogs are the chinese (and dinner)///He slope is the resistance that the whip overcomes...until the dogs eat you!

SO much this. The chinese are experiencing the benefits of their own baby boom. Chinese boomers are "working age," and much like when we boomed here in America, that means a colossal, mobile workforce. In a decade China will be where we (US) are now: drowning in old boomers. When the massive generation shifts into retirement (read: dead weight), they'll cool down like US in the 90's-00's.

It's kind of like a snake eating a turtle; sure, he can stuff it in his mouth, and it feels good in his belly, but when it comes time to pass that farker, oh lordy...

In broad strokes, US productivity is maxed out, and our consumer driven economy is faltering on consumers whose earnings are flat or falling, and who can't or won't borrow any further. R&D is stymied by the incredible cost of graduate and PhD level degrees. And trillions in capital is sitting on the sidelines held by a shrinking number of individuals (has gone from the "1%" now to then".5%"). Then Chinese haven't gotten substantially "better" than the US-we're just tuning our own economy and they're passing us on the way down.

BigBurrito:Is that a photo or a render? Some of the textures look a bit off, but if it's a photo, that huge building with what appear to be a ton of satellite dishes on the lower segment is very cool looking. What is it?

CCTV offices. Architect Rem Koolhaas (OMA), who also did the Seattle Public Library, and many other intersting buildings.

Duke Phillips' Singing Bears:BigBurrito: Is that a photo or a render? Some of the textures look a bit off, but if it's a photo, that huge building with what appear to be a ton of satellite dishes on the lower segment is very cool looking. What is it?

CCTV offices. Architect Rem Koolhaas (OMA), who also did the Seattle Public Library, and many other intersting buildings.

We've outsourced the American Dream to China and they are cashing in. I don't know how many of you have been to Asia but visiting the region opened my eyes a bit. I thought I knew what mass production/mass consumption was......I was wrong. That being said, I also now know that humans produce a ton of shiate.

Right wingers gotta stop stroking it to Putin's general tyranny etc. sand finding pathetically flimsy things to complement him on. This is super creepy given how many of them spank it to Rambo and Red Dawn./damn you Fark, how did it I almost get duped into reading much of zerohedge's partisan asshattery?

wrs1864:The actual BBVA report is all about exports. Funny how that was barely mentioned in the linked article

On that front things are about to look extra lolzy for Russia. Germany etc. already is cooking up contingency plans to wean off Russian oil and that's about all they export. Who wants to buy Russian manufactured goods even when they aren't invading their neighbors?

DRTFA But when looking at any economic data from China I immediately subtract about 50% of the trade numbers from the total. I'm sorry, but shipping from a manufacturing plant in Shen Zhen to an assembly plant in Hong Kong does not count as an import, an export, or an import/export. If their trade factors into this assessment at all, take it with a grain of salt.