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It's true that it will also have a cash shop on top of the box price and subscription fee (And if your on xbox, you can tack a live fee as well.) It's One of the first games to not only double dip, but tripple dip into your pockets.

Honestly I was planning to get the game myself to play with friends till I learned they are already starting down a pay-2-win path by gating content and an entire race before launch. Ah well, $60 to spend on something else, not the end of the world.

ffs! Didn't we see what triple-dipping does with The Secret World?! Even if it's as good a game as that (And it's a good game! :3) it'll still end up either going f2p or b2p before March! Also, sixty dollars you say? Ya know, Everquest Next: Landmark just went into Alpha for folks that dropped 60$ on the explorer pack, which you can still buy <,<

big coys like ubisoft are just like the big banks. evil.
every dollar u put their way means millions more dying, more horrendous global climate change, reduced chances for you to have kids, more money for the superrich -- all these are bad things for you.

the sooner we crush and destroy ubisoft forever, the better.

Be warned - I am a major player of Regnum Online the mmo. I've been playing it for about 2 years and rarely go without logging in at least once a day. You can also look at good alternatives to Regnum such ase Aion online and Aika Online.

big coys like ubisoft are just like the big banks. evil.
every dollar u put their way means millions more dying, more horrendous global climate change, reduced chances for you to have kids, more money for the superrich -- all these are bad things for you.

big coys like ubisoft are just like the big banks. evil.
every dollar u put their way means millions more dying, more horrendous global climate change, reduced chances for you to have kids, more money for the superrich -- all these are bad things for you.
the sooner we crush and destroy ubisoft forever, the better.

nah im just hating on big companies, banks and politicians.
ubisoft is a big company, so to my (short-sighted) view of things, it is bad.
big companies like big game developers and banks are bad because they clearly misallocate resources.. Gaming companies spend millions of dollars developing games players hate ( they end up being forced to pay) and like big banks, all of them cheat people of their money.

the bible says bankers are bad. therefore gaming coys are bad!
all bad things must be destroyed !
so nothing in particular bad about ubisoft, but it should still be destroyed as a big company.

overreaction huh?

Be warned - I am a major player of Regnum Online the mmo. I've been playing it for about 2 years and rarely go without logging in at least once a day. You can also look at good alternatives to Regnum such ase Aion online and Aika Online.

nah im just hating on big companies, banks and politicians.
ubisoft is a big company, so to my (short-sighted) view of things, it is bad.
big companies like big game developers and banks are bad because they clearly misallocate resources.. Gaming companies spend millions of dollars developing games players hate ( they end up being forced to pay) and like big banks, all of them cheat people of their money.

the bible says bankers are bad. therefore gaming coys are bad!
all bad things must be destroyed !
so nothing in particular bad about ubisoft, but it should still be destroyed as a big company.

overreaction huh?

I can totally support this point of view, for the most part o-o
We've certainly seen enough indie games explode to help support the theory that smaller game companies allocate resources more effectively e,e

nah im just hating on big companies, banks and politicians.
ubisoft is a big company, so to my (short-sighted) view of things, it is bad.
big companies like big game developers and banks are bad because they clearly misallocate resources.. Gaming companies spend millions of dollars developing games players hate ( they end up being forced to pay) and like big banks, all of them cheat people of their money.

the bible says bankers are bad. therefore gaming coys are bad!
all bad things must be destroyed !
so nothing in particular bad about ubisoft, but it should still be destroyed as a big company.

overreaction huh?

Actually banks live because of peoples money ... if people kept holding their money under their mattresses like they used to there would be no need for banks so for the most part People themselves are at fault for their wrong living habits and spending money and need for more money which they find getting from bank for certain percentage ... and after that they whine how banks are bad and how they take too much money but Hey if you are stupid enough to buy a 30k car instead of simple few thousand one... for money you took from bank then be smart enough to pay it with all the percentages you took that money ...

banks are simply using people stupidity in ability to use money but hey ... lets Blame the bank not the people.

Next game companies yes they are like banks they use people stupidity to pay for something they might or might not like ... This is the same as buying ice cream but instead you buy a game ... then after instead of buying a lot of ice cream for 26 euro or so you buy 2 months of gameplay and so huge companies survive while stupid people still keep on crying for why is the game pay to play well ofc it is because each of you keep on paying for it so the company says ''Why Not? we get our revenue ...''

And some people choose p2p over f2p any day some people like me ...

In the end all your statements are neglected by a simple line of words ... which is: People themselves are the most at fault.

nah im just hating on big companies, banks and politicians.
ubisoft is a big company, so to my (short-sighted) view of things, it is bad.
big companies like big game developers and banks are bad because they clearly misallocate resources.. Gaming companies spend millions of dollars developing games players hate ( they end up being forced to pay) and like big banks, all of them cheat people of their money.

the bible says bankers are bad. therefore gaming coys are bad!
all bad things must be destroyed !
so nothing in particular bad about ubisoft, but it should still be destroyed as a big company.

overreaction huh?

heh no i fully understand and have the same prejudiced viewpoint i was just wondering if you had some specific information as to why ubisoft is particularly bad

You think its SKYRIM but it really is not, I bet you have more fun playing SKYRIM with mods, then this MMO.

And if your going to pay 15 per month might as well pay for World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor, which I think pretty much everyone will play, because its the best expansion blizzard came up with in 10 years.