Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on September 16, 2012 by Allahpundit

Obama tried to influence Israeli voters by snubbing Netanyahu’s request for a meeting later this month, so here comes Bibi to return the favor. He’ll make his case on Iran directly to an American audience this morning on “Meet the Press.” I wonder if that’s been planned for weeks or if it was something hastily arranged, partly in frustration at O’s refusal to set any “red lines” for Iran’s nuke program and partly to capitalize on American anger over the embassy attacks this week. The idea that Islamic fundamentalists maybe shouldn’t be allowed to have nuclear weapons will have new resonance today for any American who’s been in a news coma since, oh, say, late September 2001. And believe me, they’re out there.

Here’s the line-up via the LA Times. Not sure why there’s no listing for “This Week,” but according to ABC’s website, they’ll have Susan Rice on as the main guest and Liz Cheney and Wes Clark, among others, on the panel to debate the Foreign-Policy President’s record.

LOL “Hateful and offensive video” — Susan Rice, Meet the Press. Will she mention the First amendment or freedom of speech?

David Gregory said the video was “American made”. No, it was not made by America. It was made in America, by a small group, led by an Egyptian Christian. To say “American made” plays into the mob mentality that America made the video, and so is responsible for it.

Well if a nuke goes off in this country you can kiss whatever freedoms we still have goodby for ever. The marxist president would institute marshal law and suspend all elections. It would be the perfect opportunity for him to become a dictator.

bgibbs1000 on September 16, 2012 at 8:45 AM

What a stupid comment. First off, it’s martial law. Anyway, I dislike Obama as much as anyone, but to suggest on here that Obama would almost welcome a nuclear attack in order to become dictator is just, well, embarrassing, and it makes you sound like a nutty paranoid freak of the Steveangell realm.

But I never burned down a consulate because because I hated the fourth Indiana Jones.

Slade73 on September 16, 2012 at 10:11 AM

then there was Star Wras Episodes 2 and 3. Seriously though, why is it acceptable for Muslims to do that but no one else?
It isn’t of course, the admin and other Liberals have replaced freedom with fear. They don’t truly care if religious feelings are hurt, they are afraid.

Brit Hume: “… mere Øbamaness …” as a solution proposed by Øbama to all the problems in the Mideast and, well, everywhere. The two word phrase really does capture the narcissistic egotism of Ø’s public statements about his abilities and his influence. Like Amb. Rice said, Ø picked up the phone and called Morsi to have Egyptian security forces and military protect the embassy. That the safety of the embassy is dependent upon the influence of a single person, in this case Øbama, rather than a well-understood policy is thug politics on an international scale.
.“… mere Øbamaness …”. Democrats are so stupid to believe this liar so remember: never trust a Democrat – they are stupid.

Though I haven’t see all of his appearance, Bibi had two awesome lines. First, he pointed to the Cuban Missile Crisis as an example of acting tough. That had to hit Democrats in the face. Second, he used a football metaphor much better than Obama ever could when he said that he considers Iran to be in the red zone and pushing to the goal line. Who knew the Israeli PM is more American than our current president?

I have often wondered why the, as Limbaugh calls them, random acts of journalism, never erupt into full fledged truth telling. I suppose they are just hinting around, hoping to trick the WH into another fun interview with Michelle or something. They are so very invested in obama that they only use truth like borderlines use fingernails.

Susan Rice is still peddling the lie that the murder of our embassy staff and sacking of the consulate was a spontaneous act that mushroomed from the Eqypt protests. She says the weapons they possess are left over from the Libyan revolution. Yeah, Susan: Random crowds always have their RPG launchers with them when they are having tea in the afternoon.

I am so sick of these liars. She is running a close second to Jay Carney for the Lying Idiot Shill of the Year award.

Rice said that there was a “significant” security presence in Benghazi.

Is she kidding?

BuckeyeSam on September 16, 2012 at 10:15 AM

According to British papers (which is where I have to go to find any actual facts, since our MSM won’t do any actual reporting, being too busy trying to cover the incompetent azz of their Anointed One), there were approximately 50 guards at the Benghazi consulate. Problem is, they were not Americans, they were Libyans. When the crowds (that AQ used the YouTube film to rile up, as cover for their planned attack) showed up, the 50 Libyans guards ran away (some reports say a few even joined the mob).

ya and i like how on fox wallace and the gang said mitt should do a major foreign policy speech…r u kidding me, after so much of the press skewered mitt for his Cairo Comment…this election is about the failed Obama,,,even his foreign policy. let bo drown in his owm slurry and don’t give the press an opportunity to blame mitt for obama’s extraordinary failures.

The Romney campaign appears to be launching their strategy softly on this issue. I agree with that strategy because the situation is too sensitive right now. They’re sending John McCain and experienced military leaders to refute the random mob frenzy lie and explain the political issues and terrorist activity in that region.

McCain is issuing a plea to assist the Syrians and says the Arab world will cheer privately when Iran is attacked.

On one of the shows, Rice was arguing that in Libya the “signficant” security included two of the Americans who were murdered. I realize that one was a former SEAL and the other was former military, but their deaths and the gutting of the facility seem to confirm there was little security.

One thing I saw last night is that few are asking why these four weren’t located in safer Tripoli rather than in a god-awful output (Benghazi).

Libya President Mohamed Yousef El-Magariaf said Sunday that 50 arrests have been made in connection with last week’s “preplanned” attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi that left U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans dead.

“The way these perpetrators acted and moved — I think we, and they’re choosing the specific date for this so-called demonstration, I think we have no, this leaves us with no doubt that this was pre-planned, determined,” Magariaf said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”

“And you believe that this was the work of al Qaeda, and you believe that it was led by foreigners. Is that what you’re telling us?” CBS host Bob Schieffer asked.

“It was planned, definitely. It was planned by foreigners, by people who entered the country a few months ago. And they were planning this criminal act since their arrival,” Magariaf said.

So Ambassador Rice is calling the Libyan president a liar.

It is a sad day when I believe a Libyan president over my own government.

S long as the American people can go to the UK, Irish, Austrailian, French, Russian, or Israeli press they’ll know that Obama and Hillary! ignored a series of warnings from 6 weeks to 2 days out from the attacks.

rice played it cute by half. related that she visited behghazi with armed security (the sycophant questioning her didn’t ask the number of our men protecting her) and knows how dangerous it is. she also said it was a relatively new base. WTF! even mooooore reason to increase defenses.

The Libyan president doesn’t believe this was a random act, evidence points to a well-planned attack, and there is plenty of evidence that the US government was warned in advance.

Not only does the administration lie, they then refute their own lie by saying, “The attack was spontaneous, but there is an investigation” kind of spiel. They can’t even lie effectively, which is a sick joke. The FBI isn’t on the ground yet; I doubt the Libyans can assure their security.

Why does Obama keep sending his lackeys to lie when evidence to the contrary is readily available everywhere? This is puzzling to me. Barry couldn’t use an iPhone, so maybe he’s not real handy with the TV remote or the interwebs, either.

Agreed. Mitt made a five line statement; did a three minute interview on it; the MSM has been unwadding their panties since…. State and the WH are into day SIX of trying to , um, er , get ahead of this cluster fark.

So long as the American people can go to the UK, Irish, Austrailian, French, Russian, or Israeli press they’ll know that Obama and Hillary ignored a series of warnings from 6 weeks to 2 days out from the attacks.

harlekwin15 on September 16, 2012 at 11:04 AM

The problem is the moocher factor. Thanks to the Won, 50% are on some kind of govt handout and don’t give a rat’s a$$ about this country, just where their next freebie is coming from. And when faced with the choice of freedom vs. freebies, freebies will win every day of the week and twice on sunday. The “they” that you reference are Americans who love this country and want to stay informed. And unfortuntely, the moochers and stupid liberals are the reason that Romney isn’t running away with this thing and leaving Obama in the dust.

So now I see the “GOP’ lawmakers want Mitt to change course? The only course that would make the difference in this election with this media is for Mitt to change course and change to the Democrat party… Sick of all of this…

Tony Sayegh and Sally ComSymp on Fox on Foreign Policy. Sally is trying to defend Duh Won. LOL. She says Barry is trying to impose American values and culture around the world by allowing them to take root naturally, and the old line values in the Middle East are competing. She says that even though Islamist terrorists are winning, the situation is consistent with American values if we stand aside and let the terrorists win. I believe I just heard that correctly.

Yes! Tony uses the words “appeasement” and “delusional” when it comes to Obama’s belief that his foreign policy would be effective. LOL