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Originally posted by dafuge:
Does anyone with FM Scout fancy having a look at the CA/PA's of these players in FM07?

I haven't tried it in 07, but my coach reports (and the obvious attributes) suggest that these players would almost all be "leading stars at any Serie A side", while most of them have little or no potential for growth, quite possibly because they're all so good already.

Originally posted by dafuge:
Does anyone with FM Scout fancy having a look at the CA/PA's of these players in FM07?

I haven't tried it in 07, but my coach reports (and the obvious attributes) suggest that these players would almost all be "leading stars at any Serie A side", while most of them have little or no potential for growth, quite possibly because they're all so good already.

Yup. It appears they appear with maxed out ca/pa. It seems they are as good (if not better) than your current squad. Nice little bug really.

Originally posted by Sweet-Zombie-Jesus:
How do people find these things out?

I thought that.

Well perhaps they just took over at an Italian club that didn't have many reserve players, and saw one or two greys which looked good. And tried to make more. I've been at quite a few teams that haven't had many reserve players in the past, though always in England.

I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.

Originally posted by dafuge:
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.

A bit later on I will did out a screen shot from 06 where my house mate and I found a player from shamrock (grey) with a stupid amount of 20's.

We also had a save where Blackpool Mechanics had a squad of world class players but I don't know if we took a screenshot

Originally posted by dafuge:
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.

I remember similar occasions, too. I would dread an Italian opponent ever having an injury crisis. I might test it out later.

Originally posted by dafuge:
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.

A bit later on I will did out a screen shot from 06 where my house mate and I found a player from shamrock (grey) with a stupid amount of 20's.

We also had a save where Blackpool Mechanics had a squad of world class players but I don't know if we took a screenshot

Originally posted by dafuge:
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.

i've seen that before but that is usually for quality teams of leagues you haven't got running, eg barcelona having only valdes as a goalkeeper so regenerating a much better grey player who always plays. This is different becuase you are running the league and its in your team these players excist, you can also create and infinate number of them at your will.

Originally posted by dafuge:
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.

i've seen that before but that is usually for quality teams of leagues you haven't got running, eg barcelona having only valdes as a goalkeeper so regenerating a much better grey player who always plays. This is different becuase you are running the league and its in your team these players excist, you can also create and infinate number of them at your will.

then keep them for a season then sell. Rinse, repeat. Keep generating new players. Sell the existing players. Wage bill minimal with unlimited resource of world class players. Yeah I think this is a little broken

Have been trying this with Juve. After doing two full "refreshes" of my reserve team, I already have two 19 year old forwards better than Trezeguet and Del Piero. Buffon will struggle to get in the team, Camoranesi and Nedved have been sold.....A great way to get around those irritating Champions League registration rules (when Juve qualify).

Originally posted by dafuge:
I've got a feeling this has been a problem for a while. I remember facing Messina in the CL with Braintree in FM06, they had a team full of world class looking grey players. They were a far better team than any of the other big European teams who had teams full of real players. I think they won the UEFA Cup without a real player in their team.

thats because in inactive leagues, "fake" players are generated at an average talent of the team itself... So if barca sell their keepers, they get a free world class grey keeper.

personally i think it should be capped at the talent of the ebst player who wouldnt have been loaded at any given database size...

Point 1 - just watched Top Gear. Thank God that's back on TV.
Point 2 - the problem with this bug is that you do just get too many players. My Juve squad (1st Team, Reserves and U20's) swelled to over 100! Still, it's fun anyway.