My real question is that if this is true did Toyota lower the HP's not to have a direct competition with itself? If this is true. I've read from some Toyota people that the Matrix only puts out 173. I don't know if this is true, but I also read that when the Celica was first introduced to the states that it gained some mysterious HP? I don't know, that's why I'm posting here.

according to toyota's official website ( http://www.toyota.com/vehicles/2004/matrix/specs.html ) toyota no longer even manufactures a matrix with the vvtl-i engine (2zz). furthermore, when i bought my celica a sales rep was saying how the matrixes no longer have the 2zz engine (this was lat august).

i don't know the reason, but that's just the way toyota wants it to be.

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