bac5665 wrote:Am I the only one here who hasn't given up on Weeden? He showed flashes of potential while dealing with the worst coach in the league and, later, a team that quit. Give him year two and a competent coach (no guarantee that we have that, but...) and I think he has a shot. Certainly a better shot than any other available option.

I want a pass rusher with #6, or a trade down.

This might be true, but it is easier and safer just to give up on any Browns QB right from the get.

Ultimately probably correct. But not my history. I was sucked in on Couch, Quinn, etc. Never on Weeden, though. Pre-disposed to hating him. Maybe it is because of his red hair. Or because he's stupid and couldn't lead ants to picnic.

I'm not sure. I'll go with the hair thing.

But I might actually prefer seeing him under center than Geno. What's that tell you? In fact, I think Geno may actually be 2012 Weeden. I'd take him if he fell to me somewhere in 2nd, but anywhere else? Blech...

I'm not sure I'd know what to do with myself if the Browns actually acquired a QB that I REALLY liked.

bac5665 wrote:Am I the only one here who hasn't given up on Weeden? He showed flashes of potential while dealing with the worst coach in the league and, later, a team that quit. Give him year two and a competent coach (no guarantee that we have that, but...) and I think he has a shot. Certainly a better shot than any other available option.

I want a pass rusher with #6, or a trade down.

This might be true, but it is easier and safer just to give up on any Browns QB right from the get.

Ultimately probably correct. But not my history. I was sucked in on Couch, Quinn, etc. Never on Weeden, though. Pre-disposed to hating him. Maybe it is because of his red hair. Or because he's stupid and couldn't lead ants to picnic.

I'm not sure. I'll go with the hair thing.

But I might actually prefer seeing him under center than Geno. What's that tell you? In fact, I think Geno may actually be 2012 Weeden. I'd take him if he fell to me somewhere in 2nd, but anywhere else? Blech...

I'm not sure I'd know what to do with myself if the Browns actually acquired a QB that I REALLY liked.

I thought you and JB were all about public displays of affection the day the Browns drafted Quinn?

bac5665 wrote:Am I the only one here who hasn't given up on Weeden? He showed flashes of potential while dealing with the worst coach in the league and, later, a team that quit. Give him year two and a competent coach (no guarantee that we have that, but...) and I think he has a shot. Certainly a better shot than any other available option.

I want a pass rusher with #6, or a trade down.

This might be true, but it is easier and safer just to give up on any Browns QB right from the get.

Ultimately probably correct. But not my history. I was sucked in on Couch, Quinn, etc. Never on Weeden, though. Pre-disposed to hating him. Maybe it is because of his red hair. Or because he's stupid and couldn't lead ants to picnic.

I'm not sure. I'll go with the hair thing.

But I might actually prefer seeing him under center than Geno. What's that tell you? In fact, I think Geno may actually be 2012 Weeden. I'd take him if he fell to me somewhere in 2nd, but anywhere else? Blech...

I'm not sure I'd know what to do with myself if the Browns actually acquired a QB that I REALLY liked.

I thought you and JB were all about public displays of affection the day the Browns drafted Quinn?

I'd left by the time they took him, so my display was entirely private.

The actual team we have has about as much talent as any team since the return. We got rid of the worst coach in the league and replaced him with a guy who at least has a shot of doing some good.

Yeah, the FO is a huge question mark. No doubt. We'll have to see how it plays out. Tonight should give us some impression. But so far, they haven't made too many bad moves.

All we need is for Weeden to flip the switch and for Chud to actually know what he's doing. Do that and fill a few more holes with this draft and we'll be off and running.

Now, how possible is any of that? I don't know. I think Weeds can flip the switch. He has all of the tools physically and he had the disadvantage of the worst play calling of in the league last year. So I want to see what he can do.

Do I love him, no. I expect him to fail. But I have hope that he can succeed. Same with Chud.

But damn, this board is negative these days. It's draft night. There are several players who will be available at 6 who can really help this team. Christ, but stop giving up this regime before it begins. That's just sad.

The actual team we have has about as much talent as any team since the return. We got rid of the worst coach in the league and replaced him with a guy who at least has a shot of doing some good.

Yeah, the FO is a huge question mark. No doubt. We'll have to see how it plays out. Tonight should give us some impression. But so far, they haven't made too many bad moves.

All we need is for Weeden to flip the switch and for Chud to actually know what he's doing. Do that and fill a few more holes with this draft and we'll be off and running.

Now, how possible is any of that? I don't know. I think Weeds can flip the switch. He has all of the tools physically and he had the disadvantage of the worst play calling of in the league last year. So I want to see what he can do.

Do I love him, no. I expect him to fail. But I have hope that he can succeed. Same with Chud.

But damn, this board is negative these days. It's draft night. There are several players who will be available at 6 who can really help this team. Christ, but stop giving up this regime before it begins. That's just sad.

I like the cut of your jib here, bac. I'm sticking with you. Nothing but positivity from me right now. Like you said, it's draft night. The C-Town Superbowl!

The owner is about to be indicted and is, at best, either an ignorant asshole or a vile piece of shit. The CEO is a numbers/business guy who fancies himself a football man. That same guy hired a 'GM' who has no final say on and who was so much of a dick that he couldn't get a front office job for five years despite his 'brilliance'. The Head Coach was interviewed by no other team and was hired before the Super Bowl was played and all candidates could be interviewed.

The QB was a panic pick by last April's regime and he's a hayseed with no leadership skills and the intelligence of a newt, the running back that last April's regime needlessly traded up for dances like Astaire, has the top speed of Astaire and was injured for most of last season. The defense blew goats and has now changed philosophies, the stud CB is actually less mature now than he was when drafted and was suspended for drug use, the one player on the team worth a shit left for a one year deal and $2.5million dollars and was freaking kicker.

The team is on its third head coach in the last 4 seasons, hasn't won 6 games since 2007 and who is a national and local joke.

peeker643 wrote:The owner is about to be indicted and is, at best, either an ignorant asshole or a vile piece of shit. The CEO is a numbers/business guy who fancies himself a football man. That same guy hired a 'GM' who has no final say on and who was so much of a dick that he couldn't get a front office job for five years despite his 'brilliance'. The Head Coach was interviewed by no other team and was hired before the Super Bowl was played and all candidates could be interviewed.

The QB was a panic pick by last April's regime and he's a hayseed with no leadership skills and the intelligence of a newt, the running back that last April's regime needlessly traded up for dances like Astaire, has the top speed of Astaire and was injured for most of last season. The defense blew goats and has now changed philosophies, the stud CB is actually less mature now than he was when drafted and was suspended for drug use, the one player on the team worth a shit left for a one year deal and $2.5million dollars and was freaking kicker.

The team is on its third head coach in the last 4 seasons, hasn't won 6 games since 2007 and who is a national and local joke.

peeker643 wrote:The owner is about to be indicted and is, at best, either an ignorant asshole or a vile piece of shit. The CEO is a numbers/business guy who fancies himself a football man. That same guy hired a 'GM' who has no final say on and who was so much of a dick that he couldn't get a front office job for five years despite his 'brilliance'. The Head Coach was interviewed by no other team and was hired before the Super Bowl was played and all candidates could be interviewed.

The QB was a panic pick by last April's regime and he's a hayseed with no leadership skills and the intelligence of a newt, the running back that last April's regime needlessly traded up for dances like Astaire, has the top speed of Astaire and was injured for most of last season. The defense blew goats and has now changed philosophies, the stud CB is actually less mature now than he was when drafted and was suspended for drug use, the one player on the team worth a shit left for a one year deal and $2.5million dollars and was freaking kicker.

The team is on its third head coach in the last 4 seasons, hasn't won 6 games since 2007 and who is a national and local joke.

love the draft. I attended all three days of last year's draft. Attending the draft is something every NFL fan should do once in his/her life. Thurs and Fri are giant parties. I thought it'd be really boring (Saturday was EXTREMELY boring), but the first two nights are great. I don't plan on ever doing it again...we had such a great time last year that we figured going again would be a letdown b/c the experience couldn't be topped (regardless of the Weeden pick, which I booed passionately).

"And three of the better guys in franchise history, Daugherty, Z and now Kyrie could get hurt in a rubber room full of cotton balls." - Leadpipe

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"Cocaine is a hell of a drug" - Originated from a famous skit in Dave Chappelle's "Chappelle's Show". The skit would portray Rick James, usually high on cocaine, preforming doing crazy and stupid things, such as smacking Charlie Murphy in the face. Rick James would frequently explain away his actions by saying "Cocaine is a hell of a drug".

"Cocaine is a hell of a drug" - Originated from a famous skit in Dave Chappelle's "Chappelle's Show". The skit would portray Rick James, usually high on cocaine, preforming doing crazy and stupid things, such as smacking Charlie Murphy in the face. Rick James would frequently explain away his actions by saying "Cocaine is a hell of a drug".