Course Survey - www.DiscGolfersR.Us2015-08-03T01:41:08Zhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/forum/topics/course-survey?commentId=1809917%3AComment%3A2549722&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYears ago (way back before 19…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2012-09-06:1809917:Comment:25499112012-09-06T00:35:34.049ZDisc Player Sportshttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/DiscPlayerSports
<p>Years ago (way back before 1992) we at Daytona were ahead of the curve with a course traversing over 7-8000 foot course, with a par 72.</p>
<p>In time the club changed to a shorter par 54 course. The city ate up part of the course....</p>
<p>Imagine if it were left as it was? </p>
<p>Just a thought....</p>
<p>Years ago (way back before 1992) we at Daytona were ahead of the curve with a course traversing over 7-8000 foot course, with a par 72.</p>
<p>In time the club changed to a shorter par 54 course. The city ate up part of the course....</p>
<p>Imagine if it were left as it was? </p>
<p>Just a thought....</p> Par for me , is different on…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2012-09-05:1809917:Comment:25499102012-09-05T22:46:11.951ZDonny Olowhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/DonnyOlow
<p>Par for me , is different on a Long Ball Golf course.</p>
<p>Some are set at 72 for par.</p>
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<p>Kinda depends on Course Design , Length of Holes , etc.</p>
<p>Par for me , is different on a Long Ball Golf course.</p>
<p>Some are set at 72 for par.</p>
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<p>Kinda depends on Course Design , Length of Holes , etc.</p> Have a good labor day.tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2012-09-03:1809917:Comment:25497372012-09-03T00:25:57.083ZDisc Player Sportshttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/DiscPlayerSports
<p>Have a good labor day.</p>
<p>Have a good labor day.</p> No chance. Maybe in the futur…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2012-09-03:1809917:Comment:25499172012-09-03T00:24:37.125ZChuck Kennedyhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/ChuckKennedy
<p>No chance. Maybe in the future.</p>
<p>No chance. Maybe in the future.</p> (Laughter in background). It…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2012-09-03:1809917:Comment:25498442012-09-03T00:23:03.608ZDisc Player Sportshttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/DiscPlayerSports
<p>(Laughter in background).<br/> It seems that a tangent has been applied in this discussion.<br/>
This guy who posted this seems to be fighting an uphill battle.<br/>
So if a golfer shoots a 47? That doesn't beat a 49?<br/>
Start this discussion on a new thread. <br/>
I know about ties... playoffs,</p>
<p>(Laughter in background).<br/> It seems that a tangent has been applied in this discussion.<br/>
This guy who posted this seems to be fighting an uphill battle.<br/>
So if a golfer shoots a 47? That doesn't beat a 49?<br/>
Start this discussion on a new thread. <br/>
I know about ties... playoffs,</p> That's not always true but th…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2012-09-03:1809917:Comment:25495152012-09-03T00:15:08.049ZChuck Kennedyhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/ChuckKennedy
<p>That's not always true but that's a whole 'nother discussion.</p>
<p>That's not always true but that's a whole 'nother discussion.</p> Good Luck with your group out…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2012-09-03:1809917:Comment:25498432012-09-03T00:13:10.579ZDisc Player Sportshttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/DiscPlayerSports
<p>Good Luck with your group out there.</p>
<p>Hope the outcome is beneficial to everyone.</p>
<p>Just remember, despite the determined par, it's the lowest score that wins.</p>
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<p>Good Luck with your group out there.</p>
<p>Hope the outcome is beneficial to everyone.</p>
<p>Just remember, despite the determined par, it's the lowest score that wins.</p>
<p></p> Most experienced designers I'…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2012-09-03:1809917:Comment:25498412012-09-03T00:05:58.253ZChuck Kennedyhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/ChuckKennedy
<p>Most experienced designers I've worked with never feel a course is "done" and have plans for improvement that have been delayed, not budgeted or not approved and they're open for suggestions some which may already be on their punch list for the future. I see more ego issues in course design with new and one timers who are threatened by any criticisms or suggestions for improvement. Having published guidelines at least provides objective docs for critics to point towards to back their…</p>
<p>Most experienced designers I've worked with never feel a course is "done" and have plans for improvement that have been delayed, not budgeted or not approved and they're open for suggestions some which may already be on their punch list for the future. I see more ego issues in course design with new and one timers who are threatened by any criticisms or suggestions for improvement. Having published guidelines at least provides objective docs for critics to point towards to back their comments or criticisms.</p> Chuck,
I have met you and bot…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2012-09-02:1809917:Comment:25496472012-09-02T23:59:20.567ZDisc Player Sportshttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/DiscPlayerSports
<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>I have met you and both know Gregg and Tom.</p>
<p>Tom was instrumental in helping us in Daytona years back.</p>
<p>But actually did not design anything.</p>
<p>I of course don't mind helping Hos and have actually asked for his eye, and am sure that most likely will do so in the future.</p>
<p>To me it is not an 'ego' thing to put a course in. </p>
<p>Usually, it helps to have beneficial help.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, most in this sport let their egos get in the way to make a…</p>
<p>Chuck,</p>
<p>I have met you and both know Gregg and Tom.</p>
<p>Tom was instrumental in helping us in Daytona years back.</p>
<p>But actually did not design anything.</p>
<p>I of course don't mind helping Hos and have actually asked for his eye, and am sure that most likely will do so in the future.</p>
<p>To me it is not an 'ego' thing to put a course in. </p>
<p>Usually, it helps to have beneficial help.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, most in this sport let their egos get in the way to make a 'good' course. Seen and continue to see situations where there can be improvement, but you basically have to bite your lip most of the time.</p>
<p>There are really some baaaaaad holes and some wonderful.</p>
<p>This sport is still so young that it would be nice is everyone had the non ego approach.</p>
<p></p> You may be surprised that eve…tag:discgolfer.ning.com,2012-09-02:1809917:Comment:25498372012-09-02T23:50:37.958ZChuck Kennedyhttp://discgolfer.ning.com/profile/ChuckKennedy
<p>You may be surprised that even if a course wasn't designed by a DGCD member, they and the PDGA guidelines have influenced the setting of par on many, many courses. All of those courses have been played in sanctioned events where par on each hole had to be set. For example, I've helped Dodge set some of the pars on Maple Hill after evaluating stats he's sent over the years. Hos and long ago Monroe has helped advise or set the pars for tournament courses in Florida. If they weren't right, I'm…</p>
<p>You may be surprised that even if a course wasn't designed by a DGCD member, they and the PDGA guidelines have influenced the setting of par on many, many courses. All of those courses have been played in sanctioned events where par on each hole had to be set. For example, I've helped Dodge set some of the pars on Maple Hill after evaluating stats he's sent over the years. Hos and long ago Monroe has helped advise or set the pars for tournament courses in Florida. If they weren't right, I'm sure Climo would have voiced disapproval.</p>