D’Backs Will Consider Offers For Justin Upton

SATURDAY, 12:20pm: The D'Backs have let other teams know they're willing to trade Upton for the right package, reports ESPN's Buster Olney. "They wouldn't be pushing it this hard in the middle of the year unless they really wanted him out of there," said one official. Olney hears that the situation reminds teams of the Rockies and Ubaldo Jimenez last summer.

FRIDAY, 7:23pm:Rosenthal tweets that the teams on Upton's limited no-trade clause are unknown. He was able to block deals to the Royals, Tigers, Athletics, and Mariners back in 2010 but the list has since changed.

6:59pm: The Diamondbacks are currently 39-43 and seven games out in the NL West, and Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports reports that they would consider trade offers from Justin Upton if they fall further out of contention. They will target a third baseman if they instead move closer to contention.

Rosenthal says GM Kevin Towers is open to any type of deal, meaning they could buy, sell, or make a veteran-for-veteran swap that helps now. Upton has been involved in trade rumors before, specifically during the 2010-2011 offseason. The 24-year-old has hit just .266/.348/.378 with seven homers this year after placing fourth in the MVP voting last season. He's under contract through 2015 for approximately $41.9MM and is the type of player that will draw interest from every other team in the league if available.

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We could if we want to sell the rest of the farm. Something like Billy Hamilton (SS, #1 Reds prospect), Daniel Corcino (SP, #2 Reds prospect), Todd Fraizer (3B), and Kyle Lotzkar? (SP). I’m having trouble picking a 4th, but they may be able to pry LHP Tony Cingrani (SP) over Lotzkar. Cingrani is already at AA in his 2nd year and has a sub 2 ERA at every level.

That’s insanity. No way I trade Hamilton, Corcino, Cingrani and or Lotzar and Frazier for one guy no matter who it is. One thing I’ve noticed – the guy who gets the package almost always wins these trades, especially in the longer look at things.

You have to remember that Upton’s contract will last till the end of the 2015 season. At that time, Upton will be at the prime age of 27. Also, the last two seasons represent free agency years; at $14.5m a year, he only needs 3 WAR per season to generate surplus value.

I think the exchange of value in the Tropher’s trade suggestion is fair.

That being said, it wouldn’t make sense for the Reds to go grab him right now since it literally bankrupt their farm. It’s like buying a nice BMW for $30,000. Good price, but should you get it? For the Reds right now, it’s a NO to Upton.

*sidenote:
I’m really disliking Votto’s contract extension. Even if the signing took place this coming off-season, I’m pretty sure Votto would have agreed to terms around 8yrs/$184m with a club option for 9yrs to push the total value to $202.5m.

But for the Votto thing, you are penny pinching. We’re fine with the deal in Cincy because that means another star won’t be jumping ship. He is a Red for life. We have to live with the deal that is made. If you look at his season this year he is more than starting to pay off for the lower production back years of his contract right now.

Think that “Billy” poster was having a “Billy Martin” moment and was over indulging on that stuff martin was noted to get drunk off of his goard on when they made that post.. Just ignore it in other words…

“Yeah, I really like Cecchini. He may never make the majors (tons of stuff can go wron between A ball and the majors),”

Other place was getting hard to read was so small..

Cecchini reminds me of a Carney Lansford with speed from what have read and few videos have seen. Am hoping MiLB package next year will have Portland games broadcast, or at least Portland will have a schedule like Pawtucket does so getting it will be worth the cost.

Would cost literally “the farm” and think they could sign Ross, who of course isn’t the dynamic player as Upton for a fraction of what Upton’s salary is and not have to give up anyone either. Couple year deal at 2 10-14m would fill the RF hole pretty decent and save the system.

ross is a fraction of the player. a small fraction. upton is the player your very best prospect has a 10% chance of becoming. and he’s still only 24

it also wouldn’t cost the entire farm anymore. prior to last year, sure. even at the beginning of this year. but now, with only 3 years left on his contract and in the middle of a down season, he will only cost, like, 3/4 the farm

” ross is a fraction of the player. a small fraction. upton is the player your very best prospect has a 10% chance of becoming.”

Oh, I very well understand that. he is (talent wise) what Ells was in 2011, but is he worth 1 of the ‘big 3″ and a couple for more the other “A types” it would certainly cost? if that is the case, why not just dial up Boras and tell him they will give Ells 7/140m like they didd CC and forget all about Upton? then they can wait another year for bradley to prove even more what a stud he is and include him in a deal for a top SP?

Yep, Bogaerts is the one guy that would make me pause. Barnes or Bradley I could live with though.

I say try to make a deal centered around Middlebrooks. They need a 3B pretty bad, and he can help them immediately (most of their pitching will be up soon, and they might prefer someone else who is ready/close to ready instead of someone like Bogaerts who is still 2+ years away). If Upton is in RF I’d be more than fine handing 3B to Aviles and sticking Iglesias at SS.

Seriously, his trade value being down right now is even worse than the fact that he has completely fallen apart and put Boston down 1 very good pitcher.

I’m not sure about Lavarnway now that they have Montero locked up though. I mean, talent is talent, and one or the other could always be moved in a separate trade, but they’d probably be looking for something that was a better fit for their team. I’m not exactly sure who that “better fit” would be though; an outfielder maybe since Upton would be leaving a hole out there? If only Kalish were currently showing the promise he had before the injury – Brentz may not have quite the value Lavarnway does but maybe he’s a better fit?

Exactly. And I know Boston apparently disagrees with me, and scouts mostly disagree with me at this point, but I’m still a little skeptical of Middlebrooks. I don’t doubt that he’ll be an above average hitter overall, and he’s always been heralded as a plus fielder, but I’m still not convinced that he wont strike out too much to carry a respectable average/OBP, and I don’t know that he’ll hit for enough power to make up for it in order to be anything more than a solid average regular at 3B.

If he proves me wrong (and I hope he does) he could very well be a pretty regular All-Star, and with the way he has started I think he has value like someone who can be that, so I’d be all for trading him while he has that value rather than hanging on to him and hoping he really is that. Especially if the return is Upton…

Another reason to hang onto Cecchini.. Fallback for Middlebrooks, though he is at least 2 seasons away and we still don’t know if Bogaerts is going to end up at either 3b, or a corner OF by the time it’s all said and done.

First of all, you’re way undervaluing Taillon if you want to put him in a category where he’s somehow the only top pitching prospect that would be worth giving up for Upton. Cole is the more valuable of the two but Javier’s proposal probably isnt that far off. If the D-Backs are really motivated sellers, you might be able to get him a little cheaper but you’re still probably talking about Taillon, Grossman, & Locke…probably a bit more, too.

Id do it. He’s having a down offensive year, but he’s still hitting 30 points higher than either of the Tigers’ corner OF. He’s a HUGE upgrade over young. Faster. Better defensively. More of a presence in the lineup. I hope DD at least calls on him.

At this point, the Tigers ought to take the risk. White Sox aren’t going anywhere with Youkilis resurging, Chris Sale emerging as a Cy Young candidate, and all of (Peavy, Dunn, Rios, Beckham) seemingly returning to form. However, the White Sox have an even worse farm system, so you know they are going for it all this season as well. Keep in mind that this is all coming from a Detroit fan that lives in Chicago. Similarly, it won’t be long before Kansas City is a force in the division. Might come as early as next season when Hosmer figures it out and Wil Myers is called up. The Indians have the necessary pieces to continue to be a pest also. The Twins may be down now, but they are a smart organization and will figure it out, even if it takes them the next 2-3 seasons to do so.

Upton would be the absolute catalyst the Tigers need for the
2-hole that could both hit for power to drive in speedsters like Austin Jackson and Quintin Berry/Andy Dirks (batting ninth in this scenario) that can get on base 37-40% of the time, or be driven in by Miguel Cabrera or Prince Fielder, who similarly can reach base 40% of the time. Upton would not be intentionally walked like he is in Arizona and see tons of pitches to hit hitting in front of Cabrera and Fielder.

Even if Verlander, MCab, and Upton all leave for free agency around the same time, they could still be able to rebuild the farm system from the draft picks that they acquire. They would also have a lower payroll for the lesser performance that would predictably follow if they lost some or all of these players and had no farm system to fill the vacancies. But hypothetically, if they win a championship with JV, Upton, and MCab, besides if they get better contract offers, why wouldn’t these players want to return to Detroit and do it again? All three would still be young enough to do it.

I totally agree with your entire statement. No one throws down $214 million on 1 player without being perfectly willing to detonate the entire farm system if it gave his team a better shot at a title. This trade would.

The wheels could come off the Sox at anytime, though. Relying on Peavy and Sale to put up strong second halves due to injury history and youth is asking alot. The offense is solid though, and adding Youkilis was smooth.

Really….I see a lot of teams out there that have question marks. Everyone’s pitching seems to be hanging by a thread…even contenders…seems like no one has a solid rotation. Teams seem to be cobbling together a 1-2 starter and then running an 8 man rotation of MLB starters and AAA guys behind them.

Dbacks have no use for Turner though. They already have Skaggs, Bradley, and Bauer in the minors and you add that to Kennedy, Hudson, Miley, etc. They’d be better off passing on turner and adding more to the deal

it can happen! I’m going under the assumption that Trumbo will play LF and Trout will be in CF for years to come, Bourjos will be traded and Wells will be released or traded somehow. And Hunter is done after the season. Just a dream!

Yeah, Ellsbury wouldn’t make sense from Boston’s perspective. He doesn’t have anywhere near the value he could/should have, so it would be a massive sell low, and you wouldn’t be able to actually center the deal around him (it would still take a top prospect or two plus Ellsbury).

Yeah, I didn’t mean just his health. He’s getting more expensive, he’s getting close to free agency, and he hasn’t had a chance to show that last year was anything more than a fluke, so he’s no where near as valuable in a trade as he is to Boston on their roster.

I really do not think Upton would be a dump trade, but rather he has worn out his welcome and they very well seek MLB players in the deal too. They also have enough OF depth that they could get by without Upton. Add a good 3B and they are set at the MLB club…

I can see why he blocked the M’s our ball park is pretty terrible to hit in but i wouldn’t want him anyways he is pretty terrible until he goes on a streak not very consistent and he has been struggling mightly and being booed by his own fans.

i would 2, its mainly the prospects that would be the deal breaker for me (not by much), which most likely would have to be included. Uptons and Headleys numbers are pretty similar with the exception of his avg. and strikeouts. Perfect time to trade for Upton if available seeing as his numbers are a little low compared to his average numbers. If the Dbacks include lower end prospects (like a bullpen arm) as well then yeah i would do it. Upton and Quentins bat in the same lineup would be pretty scary.

Not sure such a deal would make a whole lot of sense for the Padres. Upton will make $13m/year over the next 3 seasons, Headley is under team control over the next 2 seasons. So the Padres only get an additional year, and they add payroll. I think, if they move Headley, they’d be looking more long-term (prospects), without adding to payroll.

Now that notsureifrs has a clean set of pants on (!?) a full day again to think about Upton and even the greater minds at ESPN have commented on the subject… What is going on here? Are the DBacks having a firesale?

This is getting downright scary and am getting worried that Cherington might actually get involved with “our” precious trio (Barnes, Bogaerts, Bradley) in some kind of deal here..

Since started out this thread knocking it and always akin to not making proposals.. Am still not gonna’, but will say this.. I could see Cherrington possibly including Bradley **alone** in that top 3 of untouchables and would be willing to include lesser tier people.. Jacobs/Brentz types, but NOT Cecchini’s in any deal period.

I don’t know what the deal is exactly. It kinda sounds like he wants out (and who would blame him after what the owner said?).

I would be willing to let just about anyone go in a deal for Upton (I would personally only hesitate when it came to Bogaerts). I honestly doubt that Cherington pulls off a deal for anyone of consequence at the deadline, as much as I would love to see Upton in a Boston uniform.

Another thing to think about is a deal involving Bradley would probably make resigning Ellsbury a lot more likely. Make of that what you will… (I would LOVE an outfield of Crawford, Ellsbury, and Upton, but I wonder/worry about the deal Ells could get)

Barnes is probably the real SP that they have right now for the future and why they wouldn’t want to move him. Bogaerts? Somebody comes calling and who are they going to ask for 1st… Yep… Try to make them settle for bradley and then more of the “other” A types. The Brentz’s, Jacobs, Henry Owens maybe as a SP to satisfy them. Maybe even give them Iglesias as a SS and allow them to move Drew in another deal.

I dunno. Don’t like making these things because prospectives are always different, but do not think Boston would under any circumstances move more than 1 of “the big 3”.

I doubt that they would move more than one of them either, but in the right deal they’d at least have to consider it. Prospects are great, but when you have a chance to get a proven guy like that, who is that young and has that much potential, you can’t just write of the idea without considering it.

Barnes would be tough to give up, I agree, but I think they could make a deal happen without including him because AZ has so much high upside pitching in their system already, so they wouldn’t be pushing for it as hard as some other teams might. Plus, with a full rotation locked up for the next 2-3 years, Boston could be okay with moving him in the right deal (again, it would hurt, and I think they would rather move someone else, but it wouldn’t kill them to move him for the right player).

Plus you have Craig who can play OF (although not well) once Berkman/Carpenter are playing 1B. I agree it doesn’t make sense for the Cards. People want to hate on Jon Jay, but a .300 average would put him in any OF in baseball.

Upton proly for a decent 3b, roberts has had a down year, and maybe throw in a releiver and a starter, maybe the phillies, they have said that they are listening to offers for Cole Hamels, and they have a possible 3b in Michael Martinez, and maybe throw in a prospect for the bullpen

Not really, were not in contention this year, so Upton could solve our LF problem for next year and our eventual RF problem when Bautista moves to 1st.

Upton, Rasmus, Bautista would be a stellar outfield once Morrow, Hutch and Romero finally get past their respective obstacles. And who knows Rogers may open up the vaults and spend to get some quality FA pitcher (Hamels *fingers crossed)

If Travis Snider, AJ Jimenez, Syndergaard and a guy like Matt Dean/Hawkins/Kellen Sweeney could get it done then that would be great.

I do honestly think Snider could destroy in Arizona ala Aaron Hill and really needs a change of scenery while taking over Uptons spot on the big league team right now.

Considering what the expected return would be for Upton, I don’t see any “big market” team with the farm system to acquire him and not take a 2-3 year hit on their homegrown development. Arizona would ask the moon for him, as well they should. If Towers were to get anything less than 2 A+ position prospects and a couple of high-ceiling arms, it would be a lose-lose. If you’re willing to take a 2-3 year hit on your farm system, I’m sure the D-Backs would listen.

As much as I’d love to see him in Pittsburgh, if the Pirates called and offered any deal that didn’t start with the word “Cole”, Towers should hang up the phone immediately.

I’m not so sure that they would need to include Cole to get it done. A package headlined by three of Taillon, J. Bell, Marte and Hanson seems like a fair starting point. And it would still leave Pitt with its top two prospects (assuming Appel signs of course). Not that this is a reflection on the wisdom of the Pirates selling the farm, but I believe it could be done without Cole.

I Think this is a trade Toronto would make, and could potentially beat nearly everyone on. Some of those deals I’ve seen with like 3-4 of teams top prospects are unlikely. Likely 2 of the top 4 from a good farm and 3 of the top 10 and a B prospect should be a good price. However more teams being involved could drive up the price. In AA we trust.

I wonder what his trade value is right now. I would be somewhat interested in him, but the Upton brother strike me as guys who don’t always play up to their talent levels. I think Justin Upton can shake off this season and have many great ones, but I’m not sure I would want to gamble away the multiple top prospects it would probably take to get him.

I’d imagine if Pittsburgh was in on him, they would need to offer Marte and Taillon, or possibly Cole, along with second tier prospects. I’m not sure that would be in the best interest of the team. Marte has the potential to win batting titles and gold gloves in the field with Cutch for many years. I surely wouldn’t trade Cole for him but I’d think hard about Taillon. It’s tough to project a high school arm who is still a little raw, and if they sign Appel, I would probably be comfortable with trading him.

If Taillon and Presley/Tabata along with two other 5-10 prospects, I’d probably pull the trigger.

the thing with Jup is he plays hard every single play, you can never take that from him, but he tries to do too much. Someone needs to tell him its ok for him to hit 15 hrs a season, just get on base. He wants/thinks hes a 40 hr guy, some of these swings this season hurt my back. dude could be a .315 20hr 90 rbi 100 run 30 sb guy every year if he wanted to be. but he wants to try to swing with the big boys instead.

even as a Braves fan this is laughable. DBacks would want Bethancourt + one of Vizcaino, Teheran or two of Minor, Delgado, Gilmartin, Spruill, Lipka. I don’t think it makes sense for the Braves for what they’d have to give up.

How about we stop the ridiculous proposals because he isnt going anywhere. Been there and done that, last time they were “shopping” him he heard the news and took it personally and broke out after that! Look for a second half tear and AZ getting back into the WC race.

I agree why are the yankees giving up everyone? first off they wouldnt give up banuelos,austin,sanchez, and nova for Upton and his contract when their trying to get under 189 million and starting 2014 upton is due 14 million a year in 2014 and 2015. sure as hell wouldnt give up betances,nunez,warren and santana for dempster. maybe garza but not dempster.

I doubt that a 3B is a prerequisite to making a deal with AZ; it only makes sense to get the most talent offered regardless of what position that talent plays.

But, going with the 3B theme for a minute: It’s highly unlikely that they trade Middlebrooks, so don’t think I’m trying to say I think it will happen, but Aviles is probably better suited for 3B than SS (despite his surprisingly good defensive stats at SS this year), so it wouldn’t be unreasonable to move him over the 3B and put Iglesias at SS, especially if it means adding someone of Upton’s caliber.

They also have Cecchini who is a fairly highly regarded 3B prospect, and who has a pretty high ceiling, and Bogaerts who is a SS right now, but is universally seen as a 3B in the future and is one of the top prospects in the game.

Wasn’t Towers a Special Assistant to Ca$hman a year or two ago? Probably knows their system pretty well and may prefer to deal with them. Yanks are looking for a right fielder to replace Swisher, so it sounds like it could match up. The $$ they would consider give to Swisher in an extension now just goes to Upton. At 24 and some years of control, I’d be good with a rather large group of Yankee farmhands heading to the desert.

It could prob be done, but the real question is do you wanna gut the farm system… Weak as it already is… And then have Miggy, jv, and Upton all scheduled to hit FA Around the same time… While still paying Fielder 20+ a year

Having JV, Upton, and Miggy all scheduled to hit free agency around the same time could be an argument FOR trading for him as well.

If JV, Miggy, and Upton, all hit free agency by then and the Tigers haven’t won it all, take all that money, lower payroll, and rebuild through all the draft picks they acquire from the 3 of them leaving.

I know Detroit is a “contend every year” type of team but the clearest window is now. Upton would fit perfectly as the #2 hitter with power that they need.

The Tigers ought to make a blockbuster move for Justin Upton, Joe Saunders, and Stephen Drew. Start Upton in LF/RF, Saunders would pencil in nicely as #3-4 starter, and move Stephen Drew to 2b.

As much as I value farm system depth, I’d be ok with the Tigers giving up the farm in order to facilitate this deal. It has the potential to solve the majority of the Tigers’ problems in one foul swoop. People seem to forget that Miguel Cabrera is only under contract thru 2015, the exact same year as Justin Upton’s contract runs through. Even scarier, Verlander is only under contract thru 2014. This teams window is clearly and obviously this season and the next 2 seasons thereafter.

Granted, it is known that Upton has a limited no-trade clause and Detroit is unfortunately on it. But given the fact that he has been booed at recent Dbacks’ games and he would now be playing and likely hitting in front of Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder, he might just consider waiving it.

If I were in Pirates management, I would place Cole and Tailion as untouchable. This is a new era of baseball my friends, when Ace pitching leads to MVP’s and World Series victories. Both Cole and Tailion have the ceiling of an ace pitcher within a few years.

Now if I were to offer a trade for Upton, I would reluctantly center a deal around Marte. Marte is going to patrol the outfield with Cutch for years to come and both Cutch and Marte will contend for batting titles. Since this is a win now season for the Pirates, which I am still slightly skeptical due to previous seasons as a Bucco’s fan, I would offer the D’Backs Starling Marte, Allen Hansen (whom many are considering the breakout prospect of the year), Matt Curry, Jeff Locke, and Victor Black.

Cole and Taillon are 100% untouchable for the Pirates. Marte is about 80% untouchable. The deal is going to be for quantity going back to the D-Backs. I’ll start with Jose Tabata, who could start right away for them. 2 of the Indy lefties (Wilson, Locke, Owens) of their choosing can go. One of Hanson/Polanco, whoever they like more. If they need another sweetener, Rowland/ZVR/Cain can go as well. To have a decade OF of Cutch/Marte/JUp would be worth it.

I’m not so sure. We will know next week if Appel will sign – and that gives enough depth in the future ace department that it might be worth moving one in the right deal. …and if they ever were going to move one, it would need to be for a young superstar type player with years of control remaining – like an Upton or a Castro. Could be interesting.

Of course, if they could get a deal done without giving away any of their top prospects, even better – but that seems unlikely.

Betances stock has dropped in a huge way, and Banuelos is not a top 50 prospect at the moment. With his control issues, he looks like yet ANOTHER Yankee pitching prospect who will disappoint. Nunez is a utility INF, Nova is a back of the rotation starter, and Sanchez has positional questions and is far away. Any Yankee deal for Upton starts with Mason Williams, Banuelos, and 4-6 B+ prospects.

ummm what questions does sanchez have? everything i have heard is he is a good defensive catcher,with a good arm and good offensively….I agree about betances but banuelos may not be a ” top 50 ” prospect but alot of teams had been high on the kid. and i think you got the control issue mixed up,Betances is the one with control issues banuelos has been on the DL.

Nunez UTIL INF is not a bad thing. especially since their looking for someone who can play 3B and who can swing the bat. Nunez has been good offensively but his defense has been poor.

Nova is only a back of the rotation starter in the yankees rotation because he is 25 and has less experience then the rest of the rotation. but still has a 9-4 record with a 4.02 ERA. sorry to say thats better then what cahill is doing for the DBacks at the moment.

and any deal does not have to start with MAson Williams they do have another prospect in Tyler Austin who is actually doing better then williams in Single A ball.

I laugh at the “Yet Another” comment. I think people would be shocked to see how many Yankee pitchers have turned out better than expected. To call Nova a “back of rotation” guy seems a little shallow as well considering his age and the division/park/city he plays in.

However, that’s not to disagree with the fact that it would take a lot to get Upton. Something like Nova, Mason, Austin and Bichette might be realistic but the Yanks would be stupid to do that especially since pitching is an area we are lacking in as it is. Upton isn’t a major need for the Yanks thus what we give up should be in line and if it proves not enough then so be it.

Long term, Middlebrooks is probably the second or third best 3B prospect in the Red Sox system. Bogaerts is going to end up a third and is a much better prospect than Middlebrooks. I think Cecchini is better too, but he’s far away from the MLB so I’d probably take Middlebrooks right now…but in 2 years, he’ll probably be dealt anyways.

Middlebrooks is probably the most valuable 3B “prospect” in their system right now because he’s actually doing it in the big leagues, but I would agree that he is third best when it comes to upside/potential.

Bogaerts has more potential than anyone to come through Boston’s system since at least Hanley, and Cecchini profiles as a better all around player than Middlebrooks but he also likely has the highest risk to completely flame out of the three.

Seattle can make this work. They have enough pieces in the farm and on the current roster to make this work.

1). James Paxton2). Michael Saunders3-5). B Prospects to fill in the rest neededIchiro isn’t getting any younger and no other outfielder on Seattle’s roster has solidified a spot, except gutierrez but he is always injured.

Upton to TX for Cruz, Feliz, and a lower level prospect like Garcia or Odor.

Not sure if its an upgrade for Texas, but Nellie has been off this season and move to Texas where Justin doesn’t have to be the guy could help his numbers big time additionally giving the Rangers some extra insurance if Hamilton leaves.

If only we had saved our prospects for this deal instead of Ubaldo last year. I wish we had the pieces to pull it off. Upton is still young and has already shown he can put up big numbers. I really hope the tigers don’t get hi.

The Diamondbacks are targeting a 3B, and the Rangers have a trade-chip in the minor leagues in the person of power hitting, Mike Olt.

Olt has plus-power and is known to carry a very good glove at 3B. The Rangers have various other prospects to put together a very legitimate trade offer (something along the lines of: 3B-Mike Olt, SP-Martin Perez, and 2-3 other promising prospects). If the Rangers want Upton (the Rangers should, considering that it is an almost foregone conclusion that they’re letting Josh Hamilton walk after the season), and if the Diamondbacks are truly willing to trade him, there’s a very good chance that Upton will be a Ranger. Only time will tell, and it will be interesting to see how this unfolds. Either way, it seems Upton could use a change of scenery.

I think a package of Jose Tabata, Rudy Owens, plus Jameson Taillon, Robbie Grossman and Gregory Polanco or Alen Hanson gets it done.
For a 24-year-old MVP candidate hell yes. You never know what prospects will be.

I really don’t think that is a terrible deal at all. The only one I would be hesitant on trading, and this may catch some flack, is Hanson. I think this kid has some real potential (not that the others don’t) and is possibly SS of the future for the big club. I think though you could get the deal done for Marte, Taillon, and one other player.

Me too but I’d try to hold onto Marte. With Marte in right, Cutch in center and Upton in left, look out. Also sandwich Alvarez between Cutch and Upton in the lineup and that’s a pretty formidable muscle at the plate.

“Olney hears that the situation reminds teams of the Rockies and Ubaldo Jimenez last summer.”

QUESTION:
Hadn’t Jimenez alienated his teammate(s) (Tolo, et al.) and made himself into something of a pariah in the clubhouse?

I’m not sure I understand why his situation is synonomous with Upton’s.

Has Upton done anything similar? Has he in some fashion disillusioned the Arizona fans, and/or his teammates, coaching staff, and front office?

On the contrary, hasn’t he played through some nagging injuries over the last 2 or 3 years (which usually ingratiates a player to his fanbase)? I think I recall something to that effect; but I might be wrong because I’m not privy to local D-backs news.

*** If anyone knows why Olney believes their (Jimenez and Upton) situations are similar, I would be interested to hear from you on the subject. ***

I dont think its quite that serious. Im in AZ and a diehard Dback fan. Upton is 24, and has been getting booed alot here recently, for not moving runners over etc. I guess he has heard some racial slurs in the outfield which is just horrible. I dont think hes alienating his teammates, but I think hes a little fed up with the AZ fans, and might be asking out.

Being a dbacks fan ill tell u for sure that the dbacks dont think theyre out of it. Pretty much all it would take to get upton is either a A++++ starting pitching prospect with an established 3b, or an Established SP- EXAMPLE Cole Hamels, Plus 2 or 3 plus prospects. Uptons value isnt based on this year, hes 24 a multiple all star, and is controlled rather cheaply for the next few years. but dbacks think we have a team to compete right now. Actually, they willllll want another RF or CF seeing as how Chris Young ( Justins Bff ) is also wearing out his welcome.

D-Backs would be selling low at this point, so I don’t think its unreasonable to expect the Yankees to offer something along the lines of Banuelos, Romine, Campos, and Phelps. Yanks still keep Williams, Sanchez, and Betances and the Campos inclusion makes this year’s Montero-Pineda deal feel more acceptable. Can’t see this happening with the luxury tax issue in 2014 but one can dream…

Billy Hamilton is nothing to sniff at and is already at 100 SB in 80 some games at A+ and will be moved to AA next week. Corcino is a top prospect that is putting up better numbers than Cueto did at the same levels. Cingrani is a very very nice pitcher. They said they want a 3B, and Fraizer is putting up better numbers this year than Bryce Harper (I know Fraizer has less plate appearances but still). Before people bug me on the last statement, look it up first.

I know the Indians were interested in Todd Frazier in Spring Training If the Reds want Upton they may be better served by dealing Frazier to Cleveland for a couple of prospects then flipping them with a couple of their own to make the deal happen with the D-Backs JMHO.

Upton has also been an All-Star though, so it’s not crazy at all. You can’t get a perennial MVP candidate (potentially) for guys who might be good one day. Plus, I don’t think a lot of scouts are high on Sale. His HR/FB is 1/2 his career rate and he has an arm action that scares a lot of guys. He’s definitely succeeding right now, but I’d be scared if I were trading for him.

Hamilton has a .400+ OBP and 75 SB for Gordon in a full season is nothing compared to 100 SB in 80 games. He is hitting .320+ and is leading the Cal league in walks. Hamilton is probably going to get the all time record for SBs in a season (he only needs like 45 more..).

You’re a Cards fan. Of course you’re going to say he’s terrible. Sorry, but you’re wrong. How does he have ‘less than thrilling contact ability’ when he is hitting over .320 while leading the league in walks?

NO A PROSPECTS?!?!?!?!? LOLOLOLOL. You can stay in denial all you want. Billy Hamilton is ranked #15 on top 100 prospects according to BA. You obviously don’t pay attention to much besides Cards baseball.

i wouldnt necesarily underwhelming. Banuelos is the one pitcher they dont want to get rid of. a lefty with a mid 90’s FB that some believe could be the next yankee closer. Romine is a good defensive catcher, Campos will develop into a really good pitcher and phelps has already proved he can pitch in the majors. he even practicaly matched david price pitch for pitch the other day.

next season upton will earn 9.75 million. this year he is making 6.75 million. they wont have kurodas,pettittes,jones,lbanez and could possibly avoid re signing swisher at the end of the year. and come 2014 and 2015 when uptons contract hit 14 million a year for his last two years of his contract Jeters contract is off the books and even if he wants to come back for another year it wont be a big contract.

They could still trade for Upton. i doubt the luxury tax situation will even be a question anymore if they dont make the world series this year.

just to play Devil’s Advocate, why not? Zimmerman is signed long-term and Espinosa is still an above average second-baseman under team control for the next 5 seasons. Mike Rizzo apparently already called Coloradoa about CarGo

Potentially is the key word there. Any hitter with alot of talent can potentially be a MVP, however with Upton not progressing the way many would think there is a massive gamble unloading a farm system for him

Agreed. Hamilton is far from a one trick pony. Moving from A to A+ he has matched last years walk, doubles, triples and SB in 200 fewer PA’s. The fact that he has learned to take a walk at such a young age coupled with his ability to turn that walk into a double is incredibly valuable. The fact that he’s also a very good contact hitter helps too. He just has to show he can do it at a higher level and that can’t be held against him. If he can play a premium position like SS or CF then even better,

Upton basically has the exact same contract that they just gave to McCutchen. I actually think Pittsburgh could be the perfect fit. They are looking for help in the outfield…Upton fits the mold that the Pirates like in their outfielders…and they have enough prospects in the minors to get a deal done.

I’m not under that impression. What I’m saying is that Profar is clearly the guy the Dbacks would want from the Rangers farm. And when/if the Rangers refuse, how would you expect negotiations to go? Especially considering it’s not like the Rangers even need Profar with Kinsler and Andrus both signed long-term. People don’t like settling for their second choice, period. Sorry your farm features exactly what the Diamondbacks would want and you have the ability to trade him with top-5 players at both those positions employed long-term, but any trade that Arizona considers will be for exactly what they want from the team that they give Upton to. They have that leverage.

I PERSONALLY think the nationals could facilitate a trade for upton, quite easily. They could actually move Lannan with lombardoozi, detwiller, and brown. yeah lannan isnt doing so well in the nationals orginization but a change of scenery doesnt hurt.

I wouldnt mind losing one of Tyler Austin or Mason williams for him. not both though and definentely not Sanchez. Romine would be fine.

Austin or williams, Romine, Banuelos, Adams, and their looking for a 3B so chances are hteir going to want bichette jr also (who is voted by baseball america as the top prospect in the gulf coast league.)

I like in Bakersfield, so I’ve been able to see him all season. He is EXTREMELY fast, a switch hitter, and he never takes a moment off during a game. His defense is not so good, but he’ll get better. There is no reason to think he will not be in the majors soon.

Andrus isnt signed long term and as it is Texas may be unwilling to even move Olt. They have already emphasized that Olt wont be moved for Hamels/Grienke. That being said, Texas has enough pieces to make a deal even if you took out Profar and Olt.

My intention wasn’t to say you’re wrong, I was just saying that a team wouldn’t be smart to go all out on him. That being said I do think a deal will include three impact prospects or young controllable players. Actually just anything that considered a great asset would be apart of a deal.

Agree completely. It sucks having to hear fans of division rivals get silly like that. Hamilton very well bust, or he could be one of the most exciting players in the game. 30 teams would love to have him. I know my Padres would!!