If Hillary Takes The Election, What Will You Do Before The Regime Change In January?

While one might wonder how it could happen, given that Trump rallies fill with thousands and tens of thousands while Hillary rallies a few hundred, the question is this…

Should Hillary take the election, what will you do between November and January? Given all of her publicized intentions regarding what she will do (to us), will you be taking certain precautions or procuring certain things before she ‘takes power’ in January 2017? Will it change what you are doing in any way?

Note: While this is an intentionally politically charged post, lets keep it civil (especially if there are differences of opinion out there).

Disclosure: I am one of her so called “Deplorables”.

The following is my general opinion:

Her regime represents George Soros, the establishment globalists, and multinational bankster/ big corporatism. She has a well established ‘pay to play’ program, the Clinton Foundation, and will also be beholden to the elite who have paid multimillions who will expect big favors in return – corruption to the core.

I believe that this regime will bring the final end to our nation as we knew it or remembered it. It likely will not be long until ‘executive orders’ are dished out which will affect the nation in ways that are not so friendly to our personal liberties and freedoms. The Supreme Court will be ‘stuffed’ to her liking – perhaps several justices over time. This will change the nation forever.

I have little doubt that the 1st Amendment will be severely crippled. There will be actions taken to punish the non-MSM and to diminish and possibly eliminate their voices altogether if they can – particularly those hinting of disagreement or decent (it is well documented the extent to which she has destroyed those who have opposed her).

There is also little doubt that the 2nd Amendment will be crippled – something which she has very publicly been saying throughout her campaign. She will try and enact (executive orders?) a ban on magazines holding more than 10 rounds, and she will likely attempt to stop the sale of certain (or all?) semi-auto firearms… say goodbye to the AR-15 for example. She will make it very easy to put you on the NICS list (background checks) which apparently has no current method of appeal, thanks to Obama and his FBI.

The 4th Amendment will continue to be trampled (even more) and personal privacy will essentially become a thing of the past as alphabet agencies completely devour your movements, activities, and things that you say, write, and read…

She is apparently a war-monger for the globalists and I fear that we will be hurled into major war under her regime. She clearly has made Russia a renewed enemy, and has essentially vowed not to work with them, but instead to fight them. This will likely not end well.

She is clearly a very corrupt individual and a liar to the core. The Clinton Cartel is a very powerful force and they are tightly intertwined with governmental corruption as they serve their own interests (and those of their masters).

I could go on with my obvious negative opinion, however I know that I will be mostly speaking to the choir here on this blog. While I also know that there are a few percent of you here who may be Hillary supporters, this is not a personal attack against you whatsoever.

While I do not feel 100% confident with the opponent, there is a very stark contrast (nearly black and white?) between Trump and Hillary and their intentions for this nation. Trump is an outsider. Non-establishment. Not a politician. He is not financially beholden to other entities in return for political favors. He is not perfect. He has flaws for sure. However he quite apparently wants better for this nation and recognizes ‘the establishment’ and their crooked ways. Will he break through the massive barriers ahead of him and win the election? We shall see…

Some of the things that Trump has recently vowed to undertake if elected:

1. Propose a Constitutional Amendment to impose term limits on all members of Congress.

2. A hiring freeze on all federal employees to reduce federal workforce through attrition (exempting military, public-safety, and public health).

3. A requirement that for every new federal regulation, two existing regulations must be eliminated.

4. A 5 year-ban on White House and Congressional officials becoming lobbyists after they leave government service.

5. A lifetime ban on White House officials lobbying on behalf of a foreign government.

6. A complete ban of foreign lobbyists raising money for American elections.

There is lots more from his recent Gettysburg speech that you can find for yourself if you wish. The point being that this is essentially opposite of what Hillary will do if elected.

Okay, lets hear from you. The election is almost here and now is your time to vent if you wish, or to let us know your thoughts on what may happen, or what it is that you might do if Hillary takes this election…

Regime change??? That’s naïve. First off how will Hillary represent a change? It’ll be 4 or 8 more years of the same garbage we’ve gotten from Obama, and a bunch of spineless Republicans in the House and Senate.

Secondly, and more importantly, what makes you think we have to wait until January? Why don’t you see the potential for Obama to issue a bunch of Executive Orders, and enforce them along with all of the ones he has already signed? Then he get’s the credit for “CHANGE” and steals Hillary’s thunder while at the same time he is setting things in motion that will help her in her destruction of the United States of America.

Hint..it begins with an R..I WILL NOT have my GOD GIVEN liberties taken, nor will I EVER get on my knees, or take the 666 mark of the beast except Zionism or except a Zionist new world order or a Zionist serial liar and deceiver like Slickery than Slick HIV sick Bill Clinton, Slickery Rotten Clinton..

Give me liberty, freedom, and a TRUMP victory, or give me a revolution and or death! We the sheep, must take back our beloved Republic from the Bolshevist Zionist juice that hi-jacked it in 1913!

A lot of people feel like you , yes I’am one of them . But look what got us here , in a wide nut shell ( SIN ) . The last chapter in the good book shows the path we are going down . Everyone needs to pray to god almighty daily for this NATION . With all that said ,HE ARE AT DEFCON LEVEL FIVE . YOU MUST BE READY FOR ANYTHING , RIOTS , FOOD, GAS , FRESH WATER , SHORTAGES . BE ABLE TO PROTECT YOU AND LOVE ONES . they will come after your retirement,the money in the bank .exect order 303016 , 303106 they can take what ever they want , you included , fema camp .You will know when to stand up fight ,GOD LESS AND GOO LUCK .

One of many, many things, I’m probably going fishing at Navajo Lake(500 feet deep in places) with 95% of my firearms and ammo on-board. Unfortunately the winds may be very bad and the boat may capsized, AND record the accident with the Coast-Guard and my Insurance Company.

OK OK, on a serious note, I don’t own a boat….. and no insurance on the firearms, it cost wayyyyyyy to much and you have to “list” each with SN’s and all that.

I actually don’t see anything happening on the first day “it’s” sworn in. It will take a little time to get the Brown Shirts mobilized, and will give us a little time to see what “it’s” actually going to start…

I really do have a very bad feeling, about whats coming though.

FYI, the local gun shop has already seen a 25% increase in sales in the last two weeks…. If ya want em, you better get em.

I thought Navajo was drying up? She may only be 350 ft. now. LOL. Good news I might be finally be heading back to the 4 Corners with a little luck and a lot of prayer. I should know something this week.

No, I got it. I was just being dry about it. I jumped of the cliffs at Navajo back in the late 80s early 90s. I know how deep she is and how many small caves are around her below the water line. NPR and myself are going to have the same accident just different causes with our guns.

I agree with your statement. Unfortunately when looking/predicting the future there is neither absolute Fact nor unbiased Collusions. Hence the “I believe that….” Or the good old “Gut Feeling” Statements from most people when forecasting what may or may-not come to past.

I would say if anyone has absolute “Facts or Conclusions” on what may come, that it may be advisable to take those absolutes with a grain of salt, forecast your own ideas (conclusions), and prepare as one sees fit.

Fortunately we can and should take the opportunity to listen to others and their “I believes…” all awhile coming to your own “best guess”.

Cash in my U.S. savings bonds(won’t be worth much after she gets in office) and go on a spending spree, buy guns, ammo/arrows, reloading supplies, long term FOOD as well as any/all accessories, and more fishing supplies. THEN practice my DUCK, DODGE, and DART maneuvers and keep my head down(become a “GRAY” man/person) more than I am now.

We’ve been waiting for the liberals to come for our guns for decades now.

So far, I haven’t heard a damn thing about it, other than from my buddies who keep telling me ‘any day now’. Honestly, I think that this is all BS drummed up by politicians trying to scare us into voting for them, and the industry who just needs to goose their sales margins. If Newtown didn’t get them to do anything, even with most of the country behind them, ain’t nothing else gonna do it.

IMHO. I’ll stock what I need, for me and mine, but there ain’t nothing about this election that spooks me into increasing my stores or digging shelters.

The whole Russia thing is sabre rattling cause their economy got kicked in the nuts by OPEC crashing the oil prices. Remember the line about ‘it all being about the economy, stupid’… Bunch of rich arseholes jockeying for position with other rich arseholes, who try to get us to pay for it (sometimes in blood). There is no economic upside to a war between the US and Russia (or China), so it isn’t going to happen.

When all the players can make the planet uninhabitable, nukes aren’t the tools of choice anymore. Especially since we are a generation away from opening up resource extraction from the moon, Mars, and the asteroid belt. Fighting over this chunk of rock we call home ain’t worth going extinct over, when we are so close to being able to leave it.

You will find they do not have to take your gun per-say, they just restrict your availability to purchase ammo and the amount the magazine will hold. Then your gun is just a trinket to place on a wall so you can look at it.

One thing Obummer and his democrat despots nation wide want to do is require gun owners to carry liability insurance, they have tried it the last two legislative sessions here in the islands, they will eventually get that, legit or not tyrants don’t care. Guns not registered you say, don’t dare ever get caught with them, it will be a felony with mandatory minimum if you get caught without insurance and a forfeiture clause.

I agree with some aspects of what you’re saying. They are unlikely to specifically demand guns be turned in to the government. What is far more likely is as Antique Collector said and they will re-institute the AW Ban and institute more magazine restrictions. These steps can and will slowly make firearms less available and increasing “common sense” restrictions will open up many more doors for firearms access to be limited. Give them an inch they take a mile type of scenario.

On other aspects I agree that we are not going to see major changes immediately. Fortunately, our government is designed in such a way to make complete control incredibly difficult and makes fast change nearly impossible.

I’m not going to change my plans a LOT, but it doesn’t mean I won’t take a few extra preps. Just not going to make major changes.

Yes, yes, I do remember, Oldhomesteader, I just didn’t list all of the government’s traitorous actions.

I am still seething over the government’s aggression in the 2014 Bundy standoff at his ranch, where the First Amendment rights were to be corralled in a small roped-in ‘free speech zone’.

The 2016 occupation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and the government’s MURDER of LaVoy Finicum is yet another outrage that We The People have been forced to accept as lawful action when it CLEARLY was not.

As I’ve said before, and I will say again:
The Federal Government is the enemy.

I Do pay attention to politics. Maybe designed is not the proper term, but Morphed might be a better description. Actual Laws are hard to pass in General, but particularly if there is controversy.

The Example you gave of the Patriot act was something that Only happened in a time of Great threat to our nation as a whole. ” Don’t get me wrong, I agree that it’s a travesty and both sides of our government want and will keep it in place to abuse it”. Executive orders are not laws, and can and are mitigated by Follow up presidents. The NDAA essentially changes on a yearly basis and while all politicians find a way to abuse it, the Act itself fluctuates depending on which political party is in power that year. While Agency regulations certainly affect us based on the Administration in control, they again can and are modified depending on who is in power. Now are we over regulated? In many many ways yes, but again, those are not Laws which are what I was referring to.

As to the Federal reserve Act… I cant really argue on that point. That was a law that was purely a power and money grab that took advantage of an Executive and legislative branch that were all of the same political affiliation.

As examples of the difficulty of making long lasting changes let me point towards some issues from the current administration. The promise to close Guantanamo bay was a complete failure. Also, even with some very public cases of shootings that have created negative views nationwide on firearms, The current president who is on his way out and has nothing to worry about anymore has failed to do anything Except raise fear and create a show and display that has helped some states to pass laws that changed local gun control.

Government overreach is clearly an issue, but Real long term lasting change is much harder to push through.

I do believe we need to worry about supreme court nominees but I’m more of a Fiscal conservative Social liberal whose only real concern is how they will affect the second amendment.

You wrote, “Actual Laws are hard to pass in General, but particularly if there is controversy.”

Maybe 50 years ago, but not now.

Don’t you remember how badly We The People were fighting against Obamacare? The majority of Americans were against this unconstitutional legislation, Congress hadn’t bothered to even read the monstrous legislation, and it had to go to the Supreme Court so that they could decide that yes, indeed, the Feds can force people into making purchases via double-speak nonsense. Look where we are now with forced insurance…

The Patriot Act was another HUGE unconstitutional piece of legislation and it was passed by Congress — rushed into law due to the 9/11 events, and signed by Bush in 2001. What comes to mind is the infamous Rahm Emanuel line about ‘never let a crisis go to waste’ which is EXACTLY what Bush and his neo-cons did by crafting that Act in the first place. And TPTB took full advantage of America’s position to chip away at our Constitutional rights while also starting the war in the Middle East. Weapons of Mass Destruction, boogey men, and other false narratives — so very similar to the b.s. going on now with Russia, Syria, Ukraine, etc.

You wrote: “As examples of the difficulty of making long lasting changes let me point towards some issues from the current administration. The promise to close Guantanamo bay was a complete failure.”

The establishment of GTMO was not legislation — it was an action that was taken by the Dept of Defense. Some believe the US is in violation of US law, but the purpose of establishing an off-shore prison for terrorists was to prevent those 7th century mother f’ers from demanding Constitutional and US rights. Sorry if you want to see GTMO closed and you believed Obama, but even the lying POS Dark Lord can’t go up against the real powers-that-be.

Honestly, Obama made MANY promises to America. He’s a proven liar. I don’t recall there were many promises that came true (“If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor”, “The Affordable Care Act will lower your health care premiums by $2,500 per year”,). In fact, Obama failed more promises than he kept:
Obama failed to end the war in Iraq and finish the job in Afghanistan
Obama broke his promise not to raise taxes on the middle-class.
Obama failed to make immigration a top priority and pass comprehensive reform in his first year.
Obama broke his promise to pursue a “tough, smart and principled national security strategy.”
Obama failed to grow the middle-class and Americans’ incomes.
Obama abandoned his commitment to “unprecedented” transparency.
Obama broke his promise to bring both parties together to enact a bipartisan agenda.

In 8 short years, Obama managed to screw up so much more than he ‘fixed’ or ‘helped’ — it will take YEARS to repair his destruction and disable the precedence-setting actions. Cases in point: the Obamacare fiasco, the illegal migration of unvetted and unidentified foreigners (aka ‘refugees’) now lost in-the-system, the illegal actions of the IRS and the DOJ.

I have said there is a coup within our government and Obama is at the helm, controlled by the powers-that-be. Hillary Clinton is part of that group, too, determined to unravel our Nation and destroy us from every angle possible. These events do not come overnight — they are planned and strategized, then implemented. They are LONG LASTING CHANGES. So, I completely disagree with your beliefs on the inability to make ‘long lasting changes.’

What I think you need to realize is that there is a ‘shadow government’ and on the top, visible level, there are 3 branches of our Federal government and they are ALL complicit in the destruction of America. The actions of all three branches of our government are more about political activism than Constitutional rights and our basic laws. We The People have been corralled, trampled on, and subjugated — none of which are Constitutional. We are living in a corrupted government system where the Constitution is assaulted and the Rules of Law are not obeyed.

If you pay attention to politics as you claim, read deeper. Research. Study history, follow the dots and the money trails. Stay away from the MSM line of group-speak. Dare to think out of the box.

Modern Throwback, in a couple hundred words you explained exactly what has occurred. We are kindred spirits you and I. I talk like this and my friends are worried I will end up dead on a park bench somewhere wearing very clean shoes .I took off for the woods for a few days to reconnect with the ghosts and memories of my mentors in my life.
Came out determined to do what’s right not what’s safe.
I spent some time in the dark side of things. Soon it will be a Black Hole where light and truth goes in and nothing but darkness escapes.
Keep your powder dry and know where the exits are located…if you know what I mean.

If the majority of American citizens were to fully believe and support our unalienable rights, and that those rights are the most important aspect of our freedom in America, we would represent an unshakable block of power.

Rather reminds me of the eagle of Esdras 2, where the three heads sleep while the little wings rule. Congress plays their power games, the President spends his time golfing, and the Supreme Court issues edicts that increase their power. Sleeping, all of them, while someone else rules the country.

The middle head wakes, realizes what’s going on and kills two of the wings/feathers that wanted to rule. The middle head is then eliminated. In my scenario this would be Congress and the two remaining heads rule together for a while. Then the right side head (the president) eats the other head (Supreme Court) and rules uncontested.

There is a glass of water. A person who has been in the hot sun puts their hand in it and says that it is cool. Another person, who has been out in the cold, puts their hand in it and says that it feels warm. Both are right. Opinions are subjective. A thermometer is objective.

I in no way meant to disparage Ken. I like reading people’s opinions, it is just that I like facts to back them up. Many people have presented very well thought out observations.

As much as I love Star Trek, we will only “extract resources” from the moon & Mars when it’s economically feasible. I hate to be such a sour voice, but if we run out of, say, iron on Earth, we won’t just rocket off to Mars and damn the cost. Unless much cheaper energy sources are discovered, we’ll just have to do without…

They don’t have to come get your guns. Hillary already said she is going to fight to allow people to sue the gun manufactures and ammo so it will just be a couple of big awards and they will be out of business then we will have a closet full of expensive clubs

I feel that I have to reply to your statement that nobody’s come for them (guns) yet… do you follow current events and national news? I ask because, prior to having a veteran friend get raided by police who seized all of his weapons and ammo ‘for his own safety; ( he wasn’t and isn’t suicidal or homicidal, just a case of PTSD. Turns out that if you’re a vet and have ANY kind of diagnosed mental ‘aberration’, from short term depression from say, losing a limb, to full blown psychosis, the government has empowered itself to revoke your second amendment rights, PERMANENTLY. And recently, senior citizens have had the same ruling made against them… if, for example, you aren’t a math whiz and can’t take care of your own finances,don’t let your doctor or your government know, because they’ll rule you incapable of taking care of yourself, meaning “appoint a caretaker and seize all firearms”

haha can I just say that I like following this group? I argue politics enough with my own close loved ones, so I will not do it here. I am learning so much from different perspectives just by reading these forums. You all seem to – mostly – stick to the promise of being welcoming to all, and respectful to all. So I won’t be ignored or crapped on if I admit I am one of them (l word….liberals)? I believe in sending only love and light to others, but I also believe in fighting for my life since I am a survivor – so at the end of the day I hope those overall values I hold are enough to help me be welcomed here. One thing I do want to correct someone on is that all liberals are anti-gun. I can honestly say I am even more anarchist than liberal because I think (although I don’t feel good about owning one) we need to be allowed to own these in order to protect ourselves. It is power, and if the only power is in the hands of our government, may whatever God you believe in help us all.

Well of course your welcome here and I will BLAST anyone that says differently….

Personally I like having different points of view, all awhile remembering we’re all on the same blood *** “Americans” ***. After all, how can one learn anything in life if you only “hang-out” with people that 100% agree with ya???

As far as all liberals are “anti-gun”, HAHAHA well maybe not so much so, I know my Nephew just got his 3rd AR-15 and he’s 10,000% Liberal… As is most of the rest of my family…. I guess I always am the “rebel”. 🙂

I would LIKE to say that I would encourage Wyoming to secede from the union.

The problem with that is that when the Confederate states seceded all they did was give up their rights. Since they were not in the Union any longer, they had no Constitutional rights.

I think Hillary would love it if we seceded. Then she could invade our state, declare Martial Law, confiscate guns, forbid speaking out against her policies, arrest dissenters, and so on.

I loved Stephen Coonts book, Liberty’s Last Stand, but I don’t think any of that would happen in real life. People are too cowardly and the Feds are too powerful.

So, I guess I would do as much to prepare as I could. I went to WalMart yesterday (which I do every three months or so to stock up on the things that are so much cheaper there such as pet food, tp, canned foods, etc.) and this time, in addition to those usual items, I also stocked up on first aid supplies, more Sterno, more tape and cordage, trash bags, and etc.

I have a few shares of a stock that has recently moved its company to Ireland, which means they will withhold Irish income taxes on my dividend. I don’t owe US taxes on my Social Security, so I have nothing to apply that to; it is just lost money. I am thinking of selling those shares and using the money to hire someone to build a hidden room in my basement or a root cellar outside in my back yard. My basement is unfinished, just cement walls and floors. Anyone have any idea how much that would cost? Or how best to hide an area in that space? There are six good sized double pane windows spaced equally apart, 3 on each side.

The CSA had a constitution, and a very good one – it was essentially the same as the U.S. constitution with some differences, and improvements. The CSA constitution limited the President of the CSA to one six-year term and prohibited a former President from ever serving as Vice-President. It also provided for increased states’ rights.

Most importantly, IMHO, is the provision that any law passed by the Confederate Congress could pertain to one thing only (none of this “tack-on rider” business the U.S. congress is so fond of) and must be honestly titled, that is, the title had to accurately describe the purpose and substance of the law. There were other differences. Frankly, the CSA constitution is superior to the US constitution in many important ways.

A few years ago (fifteen or so 🙂 ) a law was passed in the US that was similar–that every law had to pertain directly to the title of the bill, etc, etc. By the time the bill passed (and it did pass) “and other purposes” had been added to the title.

My Husband and I are voting for Trump for the Supreme Court nominations alone. (How very deplorable of us.) If she wins, the country is toast.

You asked if it would change what we are doing in any way? We have talked about this. Our stocks are in good shape and will continue to be added to. We are thrifty and pretty self-sufficient, no change there.

We will keep our heads low, mind our own business. And keep the gate locked out on the road.

Maybe if Hillary is declared president there would be a constitutional convention (Article V = it takes 34 states to convene one).
Or perhaps we could see secession of states from the U.S.
Or new states might form.

I don’t think anyone is coming for our guns. I do believe Clinton will, by executive order, require background checks for everyone anywhere and perhaps mandate maximum 10 round magazines. This in itself will not be the end of the world as we know it. I don’t like executive orders, period, but they are legal under the constitution and I don’t see Democrats or Republicans getting together to change that soon. Like in our lifetime.

Much of what has been stated as corruption is nothing more than politics
practiced by virtually every candidate since the beginning of time be-
fore they were given labels. Between person and person, person and group
and group to group.

Pay for play? When was the last time you had access to your mayor or
congress-critter in any big state without hiring a lobbyist and paying
money for access? That’s what lobbyist’s are by definition.

I truly worry about the weakening of the 1st and 4th amendments after 9/11.
Which only shows you what the majority will give up in return for more
“security” and “safety.” That’s both parties folks.

And to either side which would try to pack the supreme court? Other presidents have tried it and was it a guarantee they got what they wanted? On the contrary, in many cases.

I have not changed anything because of the election. I’m doing what I can in a measured manner. I do worry that some unstable individual will listen to the conspiracy theorists and go try to harm someone causing more loss of liberty and untold harm to the country. And, no, I don’t think there is some conspiracy out “there” to do that.

What could prompt the above fear? A candidate that threatens to not concede the election, doing immeasurable harm to the country and its 240 year old history of peaceful transitions – setting off some un-stable individual. That it’s even spoken about is deplorable. That is used as an adjective. If one speaks that way and thereby encourages violence against our country then perhaps becoming a noun instead of an adjective is only appropriate.

I worry greatly about the debt, too. I’m struggling to get out of it but I don’t blame anyone else for it. Nobody twisted my arm, you know. I just know better now and will certainly work harder to get out from under it.

The country itself has far too much debt but I believe it will stumble along okay for another 8-10 years. Entitlements consume so much of the budget that I have no idea how any party can extricate themselves from it. But I am basically cheerful so I’ll hope for the best.

You are right about the debt, but wrong about Trump “refusing to concede the election.” I don’t think that is what he meant. I think he was refusing to concede before all the votes were counted (and recounted, if necessary) and all appeals were denied. Every moderator and journalist has tried to push him into dropping out of the race or conceding the election before voting had even begun. Al Gore didn’t concede, not until after a Supreme Court fight.

Maybe we would have been better if some of the other candidates had refused to concede in the past.

Al Franken won by 225 votes, but it turns out that more than 225 convicted felons had voted. When they were interviewed, they said they had voted for Franken. He was the 50th vote for Obamacare.

Lynden B. Johnson won his first Senate race by 87 votes, but his vote total included 202 votes that were submitted at the last minute in alphabetical order, in the same ink and handwriting, turned in by his campaign manager, future Governor John Connally. Johnson used his Senate seat to eventually win the VP post (which should also have been contested, since Kennedy had won the Presidency by voter fraud.) Johnson gave us the Great Society.

There are many instances of voter fraud, including the cemetery vote — always Democratic, busloads of Chicago residents going to Wisconsin to vote, Democrats going to nursing homes and dragging senate residents to the polls, illegal aliens voting, etc. But the biggest fraud, is the importation of aliens with no skills to the US and giving them citizenship so that they can vote Democrat.

Democrats have a harder and harder time getting votes. Left to their own, people would vote conservative. But even with the media being just another arm of the Democrat Party, and the teachers indoctrinating children from age 5 to be liberal, they still cant get above 50%. So they have to bus voters across state lines, open up our borders to illegals, raid nursing homes, and run billions of dollars advertising, just to stay even.

My mother was one of them. My mother, who didn’t know what planet she was on, was taken to vote. Obama’s second term. I was her power of attorney and had no idea this was happening. I went to visit her soon after the election. She said, “guess what I did”, “I voted”. I asked her who she voted for and she said, whoever they told me to vote for. She was senile, but knew that what had happened was wrong.

I confirmed with the director of nursing that they had indeed taken her to vote. When I expressed my dismay, she said, “it’s her right to vote”. This way of voting is not what my mother would’ve been proud of at all. Beach’n

Not a Hillary fan, and you present a lot of good factual information along with your opinions, but I disagree with the statement that left to themselves people would vote conservative. I’m on the left coast. I don’t know a single person in real life who will vote for Trump, or would vote conservative at all. I’m somewhere between independent and moderate democrat. I fit the mold of “Young outsider” without actually being young. And I’m the crazy right wing in my community.

You answered your own question when you said you are on the “left coast”. California used to be reliably Republican, but then illegals and gays started moving in and the conservatives moved to Colorado. Plus you have the actors & actresses who have to be publicly Democrat or they don’t get any acting jobs. The propaganda in the schools must be terrific.

Here is Big Horn County Wyoming, 94% of the voters are registered Republican. 3% are Democrat, and the other 3% are divided between Independent, Libertarian Party and Constitution Party.

Not all conservatives from California moved out they mostly just moved to Northern California. People lump all of California in the same boat but it should be 2 different states. Google ‘State of Jefferson’ and you will learn more about the leanings of Northern Californians.

Colorado is waiting to see how the State of Jefferson proceeds on this next round. The representatives working for our area are teaching Coloradans and other states wishing to separate the steps they require. It appears Jefferson is going to court in the next few weeks, another step forward.

Basically lefties are socialists in American clothing. Even Sweden is in trouble. The only time Socialism might come close is when people are actually working and contributing. This country is OVERRUN with NON contributors. There is an end to money. Then what? You are not on the blog because you don’t sense something going on.

Some of you people talk about felons voting like it’s illegal. It is legal for felons to vote in a lot of states as long as you are not under sentence. I live in wv and when you register to vote the paper you fill out explains this to you.

Last year here in California Gov Brown signed a bill that would probably allow illegals to vote. Not that they weren’t already voting.

“On Saturday, California Governor Jerry Brown signed Assembly Bill 1461, the New Motor Voter Act, which will automatically register people to vote through the DMV, and could result in illegal aliens voting”

The fact that Al Capone’s politics are now “business as usual” tells you something about the world we live in. It’s sick.

Executive orders aren’t mentioned in the constitution. They were intended for the executive branch to run the country, not as the political tool they have become. It is the responsibility of the Congress to put the brakes on the President or Supreme Court if they overstep their bounds (and vice versa) but they haven’t done it for years. So the president, by Executive Order, becomes an elected King with unlimited powers. The Supreme Court issues guidelines that have the force of law, and the Congress has sit-ins to protest laws they don’t agree with.

There is no requirement that a candidate has to concede an election. By conceding, a candidate forfeits his right to contest the results of the election. As DaisyK mentioned, Al Gore didn’t concede until it was obvious that further court challenges were futile. I don’t recall the media giving Gore any grief for his refusal to concede. Oh, wait…Gore was a Democrat. Might that have something to do with the media’s silence on the matter of conceding the election?

If I understand it correctly the president has executive power or power to execute the laws made by congress but has no executive order power or power to execute orders or laws because only congress can make laws with the exception of a veto or non veto but it is clear the president has no authority to write or subtract from the law. Just a note that if congress does not make break add to or change a law or address a subject the president has no right or authority under the constitution to take over this also includes any and all government agencies. The state’s would then have the authority to each do as the people of the respective states wish to do. Bottom line is each department has a job they cannot give it away and if they do nothing another department can not take that responsibility. I know government authorities are putting my name on a list but the truth is the constitution enacted limited power to each unit of government.

A perfect example of this were the Obama administration’s immigration/amnesty mess. When Arizona crafted state law (SB 1070) to deal with illegal aliens in Arizona, Obama’s Dept of Justice challenged the law, declaring the state of Arizona usurped Federal law (violated the Supremacy Clause which trumps the Articles of Confederation).

More a question of what will we not do!!!!! Let’s see my son and I produced 20 tons of sweet onions, 30 tons of hay, 10 head of beef, 200 ton of grain, 200 tons of potatoes, 2 tons sweet cherry and small amounts of tomatoes, corn, and peppers. We are small scale. In the past we have done much more.

If Hillary steals her way in to the White house I will not plant in the spring…I will not pick cherrys for sale, I will pull the covers on the greenhouses. I will not supply any thing to the system that regards me a slave, I will only help and feed my friends of like mind. You can’t learn to do what we do out of a book in a season or two. I can look at a cow and see a problem that needs attention now. I can look at a hay field and see what it needs, I can walk in a greenhouse and know if all is well.

I know the land ….it’s part of me ..I’m part of it ..the dirt under my finger nails belongs there…I will NOT be a slave. If I’m forced to leave I will leave it as I found it….that will be my way of fighting back against the evil if it comes this way …before the ranch &homestead I was part of the gov soup…the only way to win is NOT play.. Read ATLAS SHRUGGED for a clear picture of what we face and the road ahead…

Ya-know, I have been reading your post with a great amount of interest. Actually I read all of the posts with great interest, I will say I like your calm way of thinking and logic.

Interesting quote, “the only way to win is NOT to play”, why is it that more people don’t see the thinking in that?

I guess what’s sad to me is that the .gov is taking hard working Americans like yourself and turning us against them and against the ideas our Fathers and Fore-Fathers brought to us all.

With that said I surely hope you’re not driven from your lifestyle and livelihood by one of hundreds of upcoming elections and turns in the road. This BS “bump in the road” should never be allowed to destroy the soul of our country and the knowing how this great country and We-The-People enjoy in our lives and out freedoms.

FYI, that TP stash is something one should be able to depend on when the world turns to $hit… and ya need to clean that Fan LOLOL

NRP

PS; If that’s an open invitation for Tea or a tad bit of Shine 🙂 , I’m heading to Pot-Land in Jan. See ya at the 1/2 mountain… hehehe

Old Homesteader thank you for your post. We don’t farm, but live in an area that grows A LOT of wheat, corn, soybeans, sorghum and tobacco. Now I wonder if the USDA is scouting my neighbors. Going to find out!

My plan is to buy more food and survival gear. But if you’re waiting to see who wins to buy a weapon, some ammo and accessories, you will pay a much(very much)higher price. The time to get that is now, before the election. You just think it was (is) hard to find 22lr. Get it while you can. Your life and your families could hang in the balance. Don’t bet their lives on it.
God bless America! !!!!!!!!!!!

Please help me out I just re-read the constitution and the bill of rights again and I can’t find where executive orders are constitutional. I know all parties write them, at least in modern history, but where does the constitution give the president this authority. Please help I must have missed something again.

The term, Executive Order, is not mentioned in the Constitution. However, the Constitution gives the President executive power (Article II, Sec 1, paragraph 1, and in the last paragraph of that Section, states that the President must swear to “preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.” In Section 3 of Article II, it says, “he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” Those statements obviously convey some power to the President.

Where the President gets most of his [legitimate} power is from Congress. They pass longer and longer and more complicated laws, and have become lazy. Instead of passing the regulations themselves, they authorize the President or his Cabinet to make the regulations, which have the force of law.

President Obama carried executive orders to the extreme and the Supreme Court ruled against him many times(sometimes unanimously). But he still does it.

The Free Dictionary by Farlex has an article about executive orders. Click on the tab “Legal Dictionary” and then type in “executive order” for a discussion on the authority of the President to issue executive orders.

I have faith in good people such as yourselves. The government not so much. Since 9/11 things have changed for the worse. The “election” is a farce. The country has been bought by corporate interests. It is a sad state of affairs.

My wife and I have been talking over this very topic. We believe there will be no nuclear exchange since both Clinton and Putin would be ashes in short order.

But she, being the Chicken Hawk, will probably get us into an intense proxy war, then there is a very good chance “rogue” cyber warfare elements would attack our electrical power network. If a couple critical transformers are damaged power could be out for months.

Regardless of who wins the upcoming election, things will go on pretty much the same for us. If “the epitome of evil” wins, we will probably ramp up things a little bit faster because of what she has said she will do regarding firearms. We are very concerned about the supreme court appointments that are on the horizon also.

If Trump wins I think things will only progress downward more slowly, giving us more time to prepare for whatever big event is planned for our entertainment.
There appears to be no courageous patriots in any political party so I figure we are on our own.

Voting at anything but a local level is pretty much useless in our state. The left side of our state decides the national office seekers.

Our “debt” situation at all levels in this country is going to be a very challenging situation when the bubble pops, and eventually it will go BANG. We expect horrendous inflation and shortages in many things when that occurs.
Interesting times, GOD is in control and maybe the USA is getting what it deserves.

Actually I once saw this in action–I posted information on our constitution (on gun control and states rights), most of it straight from the constitution, and the only person who commented said it was my opinion and only truth was protected by the 1st amendment. I responded asking who would determine truth, and he basically told me that anyone on the right was automatically wrong and should be censored for the good of the public. I’ve run into this since.

For some reason, many people are all for free speech as long as their opponents are silenced.

If the socialist wins, all I can say is starve the beast every way possible. Some can go Galt, some can work under the table, some can trade work and goods, …. they will taking until you can no longer breath. If you think cannibalism like what has been reported in Venezuela is impossible here, wake up.

So we are doomed and Rand was right? I cannot remember the last vote that Ken had on this site about the feeling that severe trouble is near – but I am now tending to side with you as well – we are in for it.

I don’t have a cell phone and I’m not 66. Rome burned BECAUSE the people were given bread and circuses, not in spite of it. They’ll stare at their cell phones while their lives burn around them, then look up and desperately demand to know what happened.

If you were referring to “John Galt” and working against the system, it only takes a dedicated few. In fact, the more people involved the more likely it will be noticed. So a few work silently in the background, then a few more, until the whole society looks up from their cell phones and realizes they’re in deep trouble.

I talked to a lady once, who had been born in Russia. She was a teacher, teaching the party line like a good little communist. She always thought those arrested deserved it and must have done something, until she was arrested. She spent fifteen years in prison. Her family thought she was dead. When she was released she requested asylum in the US and came here.

She saw the problems but never thought it would happen to HER. Quite often I hear people say that–if you haven’t done anything wrong you don’t have to worry, why are you concerned if you haven’t done anything wrong, those arrested deserved it, “they” wouldn’t arrest anyone without cause, MY e-mails are safe because I didn’t do anything wrong, MY career is safe, MY right to free speech is safe.

It’s coming. It’s coming here, and few will try to stop it because to stop it is to become an enemy of the state, and to be eliminated ruthlessly.

It seems that people that have lived under oppressive governments like Alisa Rosenbaum (Ayn Rand) and the person to who you refer are the most afraid what freedoms we can lose before we know it is gone.

Sadly, their warnings fall on deaf ears. Or they’re laughed at. Those who remember Germany in WWII are quickly dying and their warnings fade into history. Those who have lived in those cultures are told “It would never happen here” and silenced.

Thought about running, Costa Rica etc., but they are not free enough, and elderly and sick family members need their medicare. Thought about hiding, but they will find us anyway, the libs do not believe in live and let live.

Been around too many years to change, these words offer guidance for our mourning of America:

“Honor, justice, and humanity, forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us. We cannot endure the infamy and guilt of resigning succeeding generations to that wretchedness which inevitably awaits them if we basely entail hereditary bondage on them.” –Thomas Jefferson

I applaud the resistance to the assault on our freedoms and livelihood, but who do we fight?

The system, the regulations, the unproductive masses, the three letter federal agencies, the banks, the Fed, ….. the monster can no longer be defined by his red coat. The reset must be forced by the citizens of the country in the only realistic method – economical warfare.

Sure, withhold all the taxes you can without endangering your yourself or your family.

Stay legal but spend less and reduce debt to limit interest payments. You know you can not cross the legal line like Hitlery, and you can no longer wear some costumes to the tea party, but a subtle toss of a tea bag into the bay occasionally by millions of citizens might work.

We fight where we can. Homesteading, prepping, staying out of debt, dealing with the banks as little as possible, working for good legislation and good legislators. When possible trade work with neighbors. Barter.

Whatever we can do, not with the specific intent to destroy the system but to survive when the system is no longer viable. Because that day is coming.

If Billery gets in it will be worse for all of us but I’m not changing much either way. I will continue to prepare for the social/economic collapse about to take place. Side note: Congress can stop what is happening for the most part but they will not do their job. That pretty much clinches it for the downturn and the collapse.

We already have a “soft” version of martial law in our country and it just gets worse every day. Like Ken has stated many times before our freedoms are eroding fairly quickly during the last two administrations and if Billery cheats her way to the W.H. it will be more of the same…control over the people, destruction of the middle class and the trashing of the American Dream (globalism).

Do not whine about things you have no control over. Washington, D.C. is a long way from where I live. I prefer to focus on those individuals such as city council people, local bureaucrats, and the corrupt political hacks in my state’s capitol. How can I neutralize their encroachment on my liberty and honest earned wealth?

If you have not prepared for this inevitable turn of events, shame on you! Everyone on this site and others, such as WESTERN RIFLE SHOOTERS ASSOCIATION, have been discussing this pending calamity for some time. Thoughtful men and women have given many suggestions about prepping and personal protection. Read and heed.

People the world over have endured privation, oppression, dislocation, and other catastrophes for ages. Deal with it. I was shopping in Costco today. I am still, after all of these years, stupefied by the abundance of goods and services available to American consumers. Take advantage of it while you still can, even if you have to go into debt to do it.

If you are in a metro-area Blue Hive, make your decision now about bugging in our bugging out. Then do it. If your spouse and/or family still has the ostrich-like mentality, ignore them and continue to march. When the big screens, the ‘Net, and the I-phones won’t work, they will thank you for the cases of bottled water, toilet paper, feminine hygiene products, and food.

One other thing: cultivate sources of information and intelligence. Find out who, in your housing tract, city, county, etc. are the snitches, moochers, druggies (prescription&street), troublemakers, and straight shooters. To quote Albert Neri in “The Godfather”: “…I got them mugged and numbered.” Stay safe and alert.

We’ve been waiting for the liberals to come for our guns for decades now. So far, I haven’t heard a damn thing about it, other than from my buddies who keep telling me ‘any day now’. Honestly, I think that this is all BS drummed up by politicians trying to scare us into voting for them, and the industry who just needs to goose their sales margins. If Newtown didn’t get them to do anything, even with most of the country behind them, ain’t nothing else gonna do it IMHO. I’ll stock what I need, for me and mine, but there ain’t nothing about this election that spooks me into increasing my stores or digging shelters.

The whole Russia thing is sabre rattling cause their economy got kicked in the nuts by OPEC crashing the oil prices. Remember the line about ‘it all being about the economy, stupid’… Bunch of rich arseholes jockeying for position with other rich arseholes, who try to get us to pay for it (sometimes in blood). There is no economic upside to a war between the US and Russia (or China), so it isn’t going to happen. When all the players can make the planet uninhabitable, nukes aren’t the tools of choice anymore. Especially since we are a generation away from opening up resource extraction from the moon, Mars, and the asteroid belt. Fighting over this chunk of rock we call home ain’t worth going extinct over, when we are so close to being able to leave it.

Ken: You want to rattle everyone on–rallying those in “your camp” with what you think and believe. Well, there are some of us, who are not anti-American who actually think Donald Trump Dump is a great hole who will consume our our great country and will bring us down to anarchy. Not only is he not ready for the Presidency of the US, he could not possibly lead any of us, except for those of you who are anti-Semitic, anti-Hispanic, anti-human. Think about guys. We need to rise to the upper levels of society, not sink to the sewers of our recent history.

Better than a nut case, who has not paid taxes in 18 years. What kind of man is he?–oh, yes, and he brags about touching women whenever and wherever he wants. A real man does not do that and yes, nor should Mr. Clinton. Trump is about hate and revenge. This man is angry when he does get his way. The rest of us try to play by the rules. No, it doesn’t always pay off, but we do try by doing the right thing.

What can I say, I’m one of the deplorable, irredeemable white males that liked the freedoms of the past and resist the heavy foot of government that rewards the players in the rigged system. And I do like the book “the Count of Monte Cristo” and “One Year After”. I do not condone violence but if the civil war does come, I am ready.

El Paso wrote, [voting for Hillary is] “Better than a nut case, who has not paid taxes in 18 years.”

Anyone who makes a statement like this is TRULY ignorant of taxation, tax law, and how a for-profit business operates.

What you have bought-into is nothing more than a meme, an INCORRECT one!

Trump (like all here) is a consumer. A consumer pays some taxes up-front. Trump also owns real estate (privately and via his corporation). He is paying real property tax on his home unless his entire home is not a ‘residence’ (which I seriously doubt).

Anyone who has owned a business (be it a sole proprietorship, an LLC, or a corporation) knows that a business-person DEDUCTS the costs to operate a business — the deductions come straight off of the yearly gross. One of the best deductions is depreciation. Another deduction is the transportation necessary to conduct the business. If a business wants to improve its bottom-line, it MUST reduce its tax liabilities. This is basic business management. DUH

Using perfectly legitimate LINE ITEMS of qualified business deductions, tax credits, and other tax ‘breaks’, the saavy business-owner will reduce their yearly gross down to a very low number. Trump is one of those saavy business-owners — and the Clinton-machine has conned people like you into believing that Trump “doesn’t pay taxes.” LOL

The ‘smart’ corporations move their profits offshore to avoid high US tax rates. Or they just move out of the US.

I will wager that you are totally unaware that 20% of the big corporations pay ZERO taxes (Source: CNN, 4/13/2016).

Ever hear of General Motors? They paid ZERO taxes in 2015….

Here’s a brief list naming just some of the profitable S&P 500 corporations who reported NEGATIVE interest tax expenses (they paid no taxes!!!):

There is ZERO evidence that Trump paid no taxes in 18 years! That is a crazy statement by the NY Times, that they admit is false.

First: That stolen “tax return” is forged. It allegedly shows a $5 million and change loss for one year. If you look at it, you will see that a 9 and a 1 have been added to the front of that figure. So instead of a $5+ million loss, it incorrectly shows a $910+ million loss. You can see that the 9 and 1 are not lined up with the other figures; they are not even the same font! They were obviously added after the fact.

Second: even if Trump did have a loss of any size, income taxes are paid on INCOME. If you have a loss, there is no income tax. You are allowed to deduct those losses in succeeding years. Just as if you sell stock at a loss, and can’t use the whole loss, you can deduct it next year.

Third: If Trump has $10 billion in assets, then he must have earned at least twice that much to have that much left after paying taxes (which would have been around $10 billion. Even if he had an almost $1 billion loss, that wouldn’t have been carried forward for long with the huge income he must have had to accumulate $10 billion in net worth.

I am in El Paso, and I have to deal with “El Paso” every day everywhere I step a foot in. I hate this city. After coming here from the East Coast, I encountered people like him/her. Misery at 360 degrees with their opinions. This place would not even exist if it was not for the Army. It’s a patch of land with homes and fast food stores, corruption and discrimination on every corner.

I am glad I am moving out of here in less then a month. Will not ever cry a tear over this place.

LOL, just the kids, I am moving a bit closer to you because that is where my office is, no worries, I will have a truckload of TP just in case and we can share, of course, I will bring ajvar too…not leaving this stuff here 🙂

@El Paso I’m sorry to stop you but you are repeating what the media wants us to believe. The media only plays bits of his quotes. He does not preach hate to all just the bad illegals and yes we should vet any Muslim coming into our country. I don’t remember the article number but in the constitution it says no one should come into our country from a place that we are in war with. It’s there.

Actually I doubt Hillary has ever paid taxes. They have a family trust, which is tax free. Everything is owned by the trust rather than by the individuals, from houses to jewelry to planes. The trust pays all expenses for the “executors” or “beneficiaries” of the trust, depending on how it’s set up. Most wealthy families have it set up this way, including the Trumps.

This is how the ultra-wealthy protect their wealth, and this is why they’re not worried about losing it. In a socialist system, the money would come from those who do not have such a trust, the upper middle class and then the lower middle class until no one has anything except the ultra rich and their trusts. This is why so many of the outspoken socialists are extremely wealthy. The ultra rich “socialists” are talking about taking everyone else’s money, assuming theirs is safe. They plan to be the rulers in a master/slave system.

You stated:
“Not only is he not ready for the Presidency of the US, he could not possibly lead any of us, except for those of you who are anti-Semitic, anti-Hispanic, anti-human. Think about guys. We need to rise to the upper levels of society, not sink to the sewers of our recent history.”

So we need to rise to the upper levels of society and not sink to the sewers. But yet you call anyone who supports Trump anti-Semitic, anti-Hispanic and anti-human. How is that rising to the upper levels?? You automatically condemn those who support Trump. That’s their right!! You also forgot Islamophobes, homophobes and racist. If your going to preach the lefts word you might as well go all out. Also Thank You for calling me a Anti-American. You have no flipping idea who I am.

I think Trump is a douche and is not the best for this country. That being said Hitlery is a known lying, traitorous bitch. She is the scum of the earth. She has killed or resulted in the killing of so many Americans (whom by the way are soldiers who volunteer to keep this country safe, so you can have your freedom of speech) that she is makes evil envious. She cares not for the people but only for her pocket book.

“But let’s all be nice and rise to the upper levels of society.” Screw her, you and all those who want to change this once great country to a socialist third world country.

Good god. Wake the F up and stop drinking the Kool Aid. The only thing that will save this country is a major reset. Trump may do it, but I don’t think so. Hitlery will just continue to destroy it. We’re $19 trillion in debt. Please tell me how any one person can get us out of the coming shit.

It seems to me that El Paso cannot connect the dots that the current occupant on the East Coast was not ready for presidency either considering the fact that that individual has never earned a real pay check like Trump. Just think, I live in EP, and these attitudes and opinions are what surround me every day.

Because most other replies to this have covered many of the issues, I will quickly cover the point you made on gun control.

When it comes to gun control, yes, it will come unless the people fight for that right. All other countries have strict gun control compared to the US, and gun control has been slowly implemented already in the US. Take it from a Canadian who can only have five shots in an SKS because ten is obviously too dangerous.. After being licensed of course (which takes a bit of effort)–also, the gov’t has the ability to take them away on a whim.

So yes, gun control is a problem, and many politicians in the US would like nothing more to take away that precious right. Your country, however, tends to enjoy that right in abundance (as they should). You can look at the many other hellish countries where the people are treated like children, and their rights as human beings trampled. You better believe that at the first chance, these rights will be further trampled in the US. It is not simple sabre rattling–they will do it slowly, but they WILL steal your rights the first chance they get.

Does it even matter? A lying idiot or a lying criminal, neither of whom has anyone’s interest at heart but their own (which is normal for a politician). In the short term, life won’t change drastically.

The whole point is to be prepared for either. The only thing I am looking forward to is that in 88 days I can stop listening to all the prepping community authors posting about the scary black man who is 101% going to declare martial law. Listening to “this year is going to be it” for the last 8 years has been really tiring.

Lastly, don’t fall for the statistical fallacy that if Trump has large rallies, and that Hillary has small rallies, that it is some how an absolute predictor of how the public feels or possible voter fraud. The same scenario can occur if Trump has a zealous (or desperate) fan base, and Hillary has a lax and unmotivated (perhaps a can’t lose attitude?) fan base.

Well, we are all…probably right…to some degree. Our world sucks…to a very great degree.

However, we all must remember what makes us push forward. It is the one, our families, our hopes, and our dreams. No one wants harm to anyone…really. We all just want to be safe and secure. Kindness is hard when politics intervenes and reduces that reality, but that does not prevent us from pushing forward, one person at a time. We can be one if we really try to understand we are… one human community.

If this human community is going to resemble a third world crap hole by adding several billion people to this country, then call me what ever you want but I do not support open borders. I see what is happening to beautiful countries in Europe with violence, rape, crimes, and unsafe neighborhoods. I am a supporter of more isolationism.

Keep on buying storable food. Lots of rice and beans. I am getting a Springfield M1a Socom 16 and probably going to sell my AR 15 soon. I think the former will be more all around useful for a civilian with limited funds for ammo. The 5.56 round is more suited to military purposes, in which the user is usually sure of a steady re-supply of ammunition. I also may hunt with it some day.

Trump is not the ideal candidate. He is what happens when one party loses touch with the country and the other party is totally corrupt and hates the Constitution.

EOs cannot be used to write law!!!! Hillary will not be able to do anymore than Obama has been able to do to date via EOs. It makes for great internet conversation and nothing more. What I fear are her appointments to the Supreme Court, that is where the changes can be made. The right needs to stand firm and prevent any liberal justices being appointed.

I will make a prediction here that the Republicans will hold onto both houses, even if Hillary wins.

Now, what will I do? I might buy some magazines before the election only because there will be panic buying if Hillary is elected.

Not much will change for us. Still trying to get out of debt and prep.

May purchase 10 more AR mags and a few more lowers. I have been looking at building a shelter in our basement. That probably won’t happen due to funds. Just found out yesterday that our upstairs bath tub is cracked, so I will probably gut that bathroom before the end of the year.

I feel that I am prepared for whatever the out come may be. I really think it makes NO difference who wins. The coup has already happened and the clock is ticking down fast. My only plan right now is symbolic…I would like to see it catch on across the Country. I will fly the US flag upside down with the Gadsden flag (Don’t Thread on Me) right side up above the US flag.

Only saving grace is when it all comes tumbling down, and it will, if Killary is elected, there is no one else to blame, because they ALL will be trying to pin the blame on anyone else but themselves and their polices.

I agree with you on the feelings of the current state of the .gov. I also totally believe in the rights of anyone to express their feelings anyway they wish, within legalities of course, including the flying of the Flag as you wish. I also understand many people’s feeling that this country is in distress.

I would like to share my feelings on flying the Flag, a symbol of The United States of America, up-side down if I may.

I, like many here, know this country’s “government” is in a mess, out of control, and it’s (the government) is headed downhill, It’s extremely corrupt, and will get worse before it gets better.

I also believe we are personally under attack from our own .gov and others of course.

With that said; I still and always will believe in my heart and soul this is the greatest country in the world, we have more freedoms and liberties than anywhere. This country, The United States of America, is my homeland and I truly love the good-ole USA despite its flaws.

Please remember The Stars and Stripes is NOT a symbol of the government nor is it a symbol of the fools in the Rainbow House, it is not a symbol of the upcoming debacle that will come in the near future (JMHO). The Flag is a symbol of the people, of the spirit, of the history, of the soul of this country, the government does not control these things nor does it control our future. We, and I do mean everyone, control our own futures, NOT the government.

I know that many people, like yourself, feel the country and ‘we the people’ are in great times of “distress” as symbolized by the Flag being flown up-side down. I will not disagree, with that conclusion that we are indeed being attacked from a few within our own government, BUT I don’t feel we as a country have fallen, nor do I feel we the people of this great country are lost and the government has “won”; although it may feel like it at times.

My feeling is to raise the United States Flag even higher and brighter to show those in DC and the .gov, that we Will NOT FALL to them, we will NOT bow to the criminals that are trying to destroy the USA from within, we will NOT sarcoma to the tyranny that has and wants to again rule/dictate from the Rainbow House and turn this Country into a socialist/communist state whereas we have lost the Constitution and our Rights/Liberties.

I personally want to shove the US flag and its true meaning up some orifices in DC and the .gov to make them understand that people of the United States of America will not now or ever allow them to destroy this GREAT COUNTRY.

I admire your fight, and would support your need to do as you need to show your independence, but please respect the “true” meaning of our United States Flag, and don’t feel the Flag is a symbol of the government, for it is a symbol of We the People.

Thank you for listening to an old man ramble on.

NRP

PS; if “it” does fail, they will still blame it on President Bush…. AGAIN. 🙁

If ya get through NM, stop buy and we’ll have a good old fashion Homebrew on tap (FYI I make a hell of a good Imperial Stout), have a sit on the porch, and check out the scenery as it floats down the Animas.

As for all the others, thank you for your compliments, but I do like to say it the way I see it.

God Bless this Country and what it stands for. And to the one’s that try to bring it down….. Well make sure you have your affairs in order.

I have replied to a few comments here. But though I would reply to Ken’s original question, kind of.

Ken said if Hitlery wins! She will win!! Show me a time in history that the Oligarchs have allowed themselves to be infiltrated and give up that power?? There may be a few times but those who are the start of it are quickly “dispersed”. Then things go back to normal.

We will keep on keeping on no matter who wins the election. We don’t prep for this or that we prep for every day living. Even though I don’t speak of it on a weekly basis.

I will say that times are getting more and more worrisome. Russia just moved it’s entire Northern Fleet to Syria. The president of the Philippines has told Obama and the US to piss off and has allied with China and Russia. The Philippines has been a ally with the US for many years. They were also a strategic ally for us in the battle against China. We have 3 military bases there. Not sure how long that will last.

Rome is on fire and the fire is about to get out of control. Our military is weaker than ever since WWII. There’s a shit storm coming. It may be financial, electrical or just watching your sons and daughters being drafted to go fight a bull crap war for a damn gas pipeline in Syria.

I think you are correct in your prediction of the election outcome, but you are killing my faint hope that a BREXIT revolt by the silent majority is still possible. My further hope is that if Trump was to be elected, he would be successful in damping down the war language between many countries and the US.

I hope your right and Trump changes things. But when he says he will get rid of all trade agreements that means those countries who prosper from it will suffer a great economic lose. They will not take that lightly. Hopefully he can make a deal that is beneficial for both parties.

Rome spread itself too thin. Then had to pay the barbarian Goths to protect them. Heck, we could not even drum up some barbarians to come to our aid! How did Mark Twain say it? “History doesn’t repeat itself but echo’s itself.” Something similar.
Semper Fi

Seems to reason that, that IS a whole lot of money he wouldn’t have to share with her, if she were to up and pass away due to her increasingly apparent and evident serious health issues.

Not much gets in the way of Bill and his money, and his “kitty” play things.
I am hopeful that Bill’s Arkansas mafia can arrange such a “passing”…before the election happens. (rhetorically speaking of course.)

The local Catholic priest has been preaching more homilies challenging people to get stronger spiritually and trust in God. While this is always the goal, he seems to be sending a between the lines kind of message to the parish, more so since he returned from the recent priests’ retreat. The “something bad” that’s coming will be one or even all three possibilities IMO – persecution of Christians, economic collapse/Depression and war.

I’m stocking up on items that could be hard to get in a collapse or war, not necessarily prepper type items but large goods in general. Also stuff that I wouldn’t want tracked or denied if we go to a cashless/mark of the beast system.

Just thinking with history as my guide. That and Scripture and prophecy. We are in for about three and a half years of persecution.

Yes, our priest has been doing the same thing for the past year though. Talks about the importance of our relationship with God and the need for it to be strong and the coming of dark times. If I wasn’t already in that mode, it would have me thinking about what is going on. But most people don’t hear it.

This morning’s headlines are a perfect example of the deep corruption surrounding Hillary Clinton:

Clinton ally gave $500K to wife of FBI agent on email probe

“Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a longtime Clinton confidant, helped steer $675,000 to the election campaign of the wife of an FBI official who went on to lead the probe into Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email system,”

“…the Clinton loyalist, gave $467,500 to the state Senate campaign of the wife of Andrew McCabe, who is now deputy director of the FBI.”

“Jill McCabe received an additional $207,788 from the Virginia Democratic Party, the report states, which is heavily influenced by McAuliffe.”

I’m planning to incorporate. The non-profit organization will be The Deplorables Global Initiative.

Money will flow in from around the world. The funds will be used to defeat the Banana Republic of the United States, along with the corrupt “leaders”, “wannabees”, and liars.

The Deplorables Global Initiative will not only be a think-tank, but will be a policy-machine, establishing sound domestic and foreign policy to defeat and destroy the corrupt, globalist agenda.

The Deplorables Global Initiative will utilize the propaganda-based MSM and destroy them using their own weaponry against them.

The Deplorables Global Initiative will end global/illegal migration which has been initiated through the schemes from the global military-industrial complex. The Initiative will end illegal wars which have been initiatiated under the guise of regime change/democracy.

The Deplorables Global Initiative will eliminate the illegal corruption running rampant in the US Democratic-Socialist/Communist Party.

The Deplorables Global Initiative will be fully transparent, will provide adequate, nay…substantial, revenue streams to the Wikileaks organization.

The Deplorables Global Initiative will adhere to its mission by destroying any and all enemies of the state, all globalists, and all corrupt central bankers.

The Deplorables Global Initiative will provide the solution for ‘big government’ through a 75% reduction-in-force and will return the US Federal Government to the intended institution it was meant to be.

The Deplorables Global Initiative will become instrumental in reining in the numerous UN-constitutional laws and regulations that have stripped Americans from their God-given and enumerated rights.

I personally feel we will not see many major changes immediately. I don’t think we will see the supreme court revisiting past rulings any time soon. On the other hand, there will likely be at least several EO’s to curtail what firearms and accessories you can and cannot purchase.

I do expect a rush on gun stores. My best friend owns one and has already seen a uptick in handgun sales and AR style rifles. Smart bet would be to buy anything you Really want over the next few weeks.

I like to hope that our system of government is so split that no real change will be made during a Clinton tenure as president. Even when you have the Legislative And Executive branches on your side it can be difficult to pass contentious laws. But I am sometimes a bit over optimistic. I just hope for the best while continuing to prepare for the worst. Keep my eyes open and try to take advantage of anything that might help me out.

Ken
That is the only way we vote in the State of Jefferson. A mail in ballot which I deliver to the registrars office every voting cycle-JIC.

We do not trust the voting machines even through they due produce an internal paper ballot when you vote. My concern those can disappear from the voting house to the counting house, even though the volunteers are careful in the packing an shipping it. It is the in-between person who delivers them to the registrars office.

I was raised ‘figures do not lie—but liars figure’, as in the case of G. Soros.

What bothers me more than biased polls is the fact that 90% of the nation’s voters don’t realize they are biased.

Unless you read alternative news daily online, you won’t know!!

My husband, bless his kind heart, (yes, I’m southern and we say that a lot to cover for ‘they really can’t help themselves’ or ‘that’s the best he can do’)comes in and regurgitates so many memes from the LSM he hears on radio stations, I just shake my head and sigh.

Multiply his ignorance??, uneducated experience, and truly, misplaced trust by millions…and you have the problem facing this election.

Thanks for giving us the opportunity to express our opinions about how government (and all the agencies thereof) are failing the American people.

There have been many good suggestions and disclosures by yourself and your contributors to this site, BUT it appears that the minds of the sheeple are set. Rational arguments and facts do not matter any more with many people I have talked to. I am afraid that short of a smoking cannon disclosure in the next week, we will get the corrupt leader the sheeple deserve. Be safe all.

I agree that the minds of most are made up, having been brainwashed by the mainstream view of ‘their’ candidate. However it is good for the soul to talk & vent about it – and it is exactly what we should all be doing so long as we have the freedom to do so. Maybe I should post a ‘political’ type article once a week or every few weeks just for this purpose 😉

The attitude that nobody will come for your guns is exactly what enabled the present state of oppressive laws in effect in Canada.

It was done piecemeal, a step at a time, so as not to distract folks from their hockey game. This approach to boiling the frog is time proven. Our safe storage laws were basically disguised anti self defense laws that are vigorously enforced no matter the justification.

As an example, it is technically illegal to load a firearm in your house but ” technically ” legal to use a firearm in self defense. Do it and you will be in for a costly legal hell and come out with an enormous debt and still possibly lose your license even if you beat the charges.

Of course the media are propaganda cheer leaders with anti gun bias a given. It is not paranoia, especially with today’s politicians chomping at the bit to join the U.N. and force worldwide compliance to a single set of laws.

I speak from experience, having thousands of dollars worth of firearms reclassified repeatedly to the point of prohibition with no compensation and the threat of prison for non compliance for owning once legal property. Get your heads out of the sand and look North to see what’s coming.

I have to add my astonishment at the people who insist that ” They can’t do that, this is America!” Such arrogance in denial of the whirlwind of GLOBAL change and influence is amazing. You aren’t in Kansas anymore Toto.

I’ve been wanting to relocate from my bottom-of-the-list liberal state for years but had to stay for the kids. Now they are out of school I may relocate to my home state of Texas. Better economy and family.

This very subject is why you have not heard from me for awhile. For weeks my friends and colleagues have cautioned me about speaking out on the Bobble head and Willy the S.P.

Men and women who now are fearful about voicing opinion and bringing to light facts and proof about the corruption and criminality. I hear words like be cautious, it’s dangerous, play it safe, don’t speak out. Good people who are concerned that their minions are compiling enemy lists locally to punish anyone who dares speak ill of the anointed one. Hitler and Stalin are so proud how their little girl has grown up.

I thought about the mentors in my life and what they would think of this. Which made me even angrier. It came to a head on Thursday. My wife told me I became a miserable SOB to live with and I needed to do something about it. So Friday I packed my ruck. Saturday I had my wife drive me out to the sticks. I got out at a random place and walked in to the woods. Came out 5 days later…with my head much clearer.

NRP, it was hard to find your post. So many more are putting their 3 cents in now! (Which is a very good thing.)
I would of asked you but was concerned 2 grumpy old farts out in the woods might of upset the balance of nature.LOL!
Btw,that was a good article on starting a fire. Used a few tricks myself while out there…

Loclyokel, alot of folks are posting so it took awhile to find ya.
Well,I was hoping people had come to their senses and locked up any and all bad characters while I was gone but no such luck.
One good thing though. When I went in Ken was at #10 and when I came out he’s at #7.
Maybe instead of being his lucky rabbits foot I’m his lucky horse’s A**…LOL!!

They take your freedoms one chip at a time until the foundation of our society has crumbled – just read that an Irish Christian bakery (Asher Baking) lost an appeal against a ruling that they discriminated against gays by not wanting to bake a cake promoting gay marriage. The picture was so cute and would certainly be loved by our children (Burt and Ernie). Chip, chip, chip…..

Whichever candidate they think reflects their position best, of course. Reasonable people can have differences in opinion. The only advice I’d offer any of my fellow citizens is that if supporting a candidate means identifying with racists, sexists, homophobes, xenophobe, and Islamaphobes, then I’d advise they reconsider.

If I may, I think you do not understand why many of Trump’s supporters have embraced the term “deplorables”.

It seems to me that Hillary has thrown around the terms xenophobe, islamophobe, homophobe, sexist, racist, and many others so often that their collective meaning is lost. It seems that being any one of these insults now means that you are critical of things such as illegal immigration, black lives matter, gay marriage, or islam–usually for very valid reasons.

It seems to me, a Canadian, that “deplorables” are people who do not want to be politically correct, want change for their nation, and want to be critical of the many globalist policies that Hillary supports. I believe that is what they identify with.

I think that very few people on this blog are literally racist, homophobic, etc–however, it seems those terms have lost their meaning and they seem to have only been created to attack people with ad hominem rather than logical argument.

Sure, the PC pendulum has swung too far, I’m pursuing a bachelor’s degree in my middle age and I see it up close…daily. But the current ascendance of the language police cannot be, and should not be, a justification for any type of speech uttered, even if it’s only in spite of the SJWs of the world.

I still expect the POTUS to be decent, or at least to make the practiced effort to appear decent. I think it’s an important part of the job. Maybe that’s too high an expectation.

Y’all are acting like it’s cool for the POTUS not to be polite. Check yourselves. Trump is getting vilified for the things that are coming out of HIS mouth.

I agree that voting should be along policy lines, not necessarily which candidate can fling the most hateful rhetoric. Both candidates do that, and neither are entirely accurate. However, even Secretary Clinton did not say that the basket was all deplorables, just half.

So “the rest,” those who aren’t “deplorable” by her definition are supposed to back down and be good little trained puppies and allow her to badmouth those she doesn’t know or care about?

I identify with those “deplorables” because the definition is meaningless–she uses words like homophobe and racist as a surgeon would use a scalpel–it’s a tool, and nothing more. She doesn’t care about the people, but only about the political power she can get by using them. She doesn’t care if someone is a homophobe or a racist, except that those things are current political hot topics.

What she meant to say (and I allow myself to say this because her supporters always tell me WHAT SHE MEANT TO SAY so that means the rest of us can to) is that all of Trumps supporters are deplorable, non-human, and below contempt because they don’t support HER.

Exactly – she holds anyone with an opposing opinion – anyone who does not fall into line – in contempt. Instead of addressing the real issues and concerns, it is much easier to lump us all into a group of deplorable or disenfranchised people who are either too prejudiced or ignorant to tow her line. That one comment alone should give everyone pause to think about how we will be treated with her in the WH.

Read Saul Alinsky, this stratagem is directly from his playbook,demonize and ridicule the opposition…as is perverting the educational system…this is not a new phenomenon, it has been in process for many decades and the widespread brainwashing is now coming to fruition. The left has had great patience, and it will pay off for them in November, again. And with this simple and true statement, I have probably made another list in DC…

I do deplore all the Clinton and DNC corruption being brought out on full display every day. If that makes me deplorable then it is a hat I proudly wear. It is obvious that your posts reflect a opposing view to most of the posters in here, so you better come up with a factual argument to be taken serious.

I appreciate that your responses are respectful. It’s just that, due to personal values and life experiences, I don’t think Clinton is the correct choice. I don’t have any problem with others judging me incorrectly. Having lived around the country, I think it is a good thing to find something that people can have in common, even if I don’t agree with everything others think. I do not put those I disagree with with in a basket of deplorables.

I agree. The “deplorables” comment just showed how much contempt she holds a large portion of our population in – and gives us a glimpse of how people who do not agree with her will be treated under her presidency.

She may have walked back her percentages of who is deplorable, but that doesn’t matter to me because that comment provided a tiny glimpse into her thinking. Rather than just confine her remarks to her opponent, she felt compelled to insult everyone who does not vote for her. It goes to show how much contempt and lack of empathy and understanding she has for me and people like me.

And, if this is her attitude on the campaign trail, what will she be like in the WH when she really has all the power? Will I be branded racist because I do not want a flood of quasi-vetted people pouring into our country? Will I be branded someone who wants to see “toddlers” shot because we own a gun? Will I be branded homophobic because I think this bathroom controversy is really stupid? Will I be branded a traitor because I do not want to see us leap into WW3?

So, rather than look at us “deplorables” as identifying with all the names she lumped onto her non-supporters, please realize that MANY people who will vote for Trump are doing so in spite of (and maybe even because of) the names she calls us. And, that by including myself in her “basket of deplorables” I am taking a calm and rational stand against her insulting rhetoric and her demeaning attitude toward people who do not fall into line with her.

So who defines those things? It appears that ANYONE, guilty or not, who objects to anything done by the puppets that be is labeled as those things. Currently ALL conservatives (i.e., anti-Hitlery) are being labeled that way. That doesn’t make it true. Hitlery can define all she wants, but painting me as a racist (she doesn’t know me) or a islamophobe (she doesn’t know me) or any number of other things falls rather flat and just tells me this is NOT someone I want to represent me on the world stage.

The more she rants and lies about who I am, the less I want to have anything to do with her.

It seems rather DEPLORABLE to me to label people she has never met, will never meet, and spread hate simply because they do not support her. Wait…does that make her a conservaphobe?

I’d rather have someone you know is an a_ _ hole as president, than one who pretends not to be one. What you see is what you get with Trump. Hillary is hiding her real self. Think Dr. Jeckle/Mr. Hyde, then you have her!

Regardless of the outcome, we will just quietly keep on living our lives. I’m a former Clinton supporter, who will be voting for Trump. We’re not set up as well as many are, but have been interested in preparedness for awhile. I’m low income enough that if any of her silly plans are put into place, we might even be better off in some ways, in the short term. Tru

As middle class taxpayers and small business owners, we have a lot to lose if she gets into office… and it looks like that is where we are heading.

If she wins, we will continue to do the things we are already doing, and continue to educate ourselves and add to stocks. We will continue our search for mountain property.

But, some priorities will be driven by whether or not the Republicans control Congress. For instance, if Dems are in complete control we know we will be seeing some serious tax consequences that will negatively affect us, our business and our employees. So, we will be sitting down with our CPA to figure out what we can do ahead of time to protect ourselves the best we can. For us, it goes beyond just physical preparedness and protection, we are also looking at financial preservation.

If you want to live buy beans, bullets and beer. Paper money can be used in the bath room. I will get out of the stock market if she-wolf wins. I have been moving money out of the system and buying preps for a good while. The man that said don’t play their game was 100% right. Just my two cents.

When I said stocks, I really meant supplies – not stock as is the stock market. We have done everything reasonably possible to minimize our exposure in the financial markets, and have to keep money in the bank because we own and run a business and have payroll, vendors to pay, etc…

All that said, we are doing everything possible to prepare ourselves for tough times including another financial crisis and/or worse.

The problem is not just Trump or Clinton. The whole system is corrupt.

When you go to what we consider third world countries the first thing you notice is the smell. The people there are used to it and if you stay long enough you get used to it too. The corruption in our system down to the local level is like that smell. People have gotten used to it so they don’t even notice.

The problem for many of us here is we don’t get used to it. The smell just gets worse.

So this is what I have done this year to get ready.

I don’t have a penny in the Stock market anymore. I paid up all my property taxes as far in advance as they “allow”. Made sure all our legal documents especially Id’s and passports are up to date. Made sure my 2 small Corporations are in compliance (gotta feed the lawyers on occasion.)

Got back in shape and paying closer attention to my health.(Thanks to all the good folks here who share their health tips and knowledge.)

Formulated and put in place our exit strategy in case our situation becomes untenable. My place is where my group comes if their situation becomes untenable where they are. Thanks go to my S.O. who has helped us all have a plan A,B,C,D.

I coined a term here awhile back about people safely nested in their bubble of blissful ignorance. I truly believe many think they are safe in their ignorance. Whether it’s feigned or true ignorance doesn’t matter to them. Going day by day hoping nothing touches them. Sure seems like a sad existence to me.
My mentors didn’t do what was safe. They did what was right. I’m following their lead..I will continue to do right by those I deal with and help people locally who need my help.

People live in that 58 story high rise building in San Fran that is sinking into the ground and tilting slowly – but even though a realtor woman that lives there noticed years ago that her golf balls rolled to one corner, she has remained there. So whats a 14″ tilt at the top, no big deal. It happens so slowly that when the building topples, everyone will be surprised.

So very true. The Democrats have the Super Delegates. Check Mate for every future election!!! If Hillary wins, I fear we will never have another Republican president or any other party for that matter.

Anything I could say has already been said 4 tines over. These two were the best we could do?

Well, yeah… what decent person would want to be dragged through the election process? Explain to 80 million people on TV why you cheated on that 8th grade math test that the media dug up (and much much worse).

Also any really good executive/manager would have to take a serious cut in pay, not to mention 24 seven 365. Nope. Good people can no longer (not allowed?) join the political class. We’ve gotten what we deserve. I’ve seen this written here more than once and I’ll write it again… PRAY !!!

I read that you want to go to Timbuktu to escape the US conflagration. You know of course where that is? You better like camels and fires made with camel dung – add that extra flavor to your meals. lol

I have been in the ‘Anybody But Hillary’ camp since way before this election, but regardless of who becomes president I don’t see problems like the national debt being solved. So I plan on continuing prepping. And as long as NRP continues to mention TP, I’ll continue laughing about it!

If the witch wins I think it will be just more of the same as we have but accelerated, if and I hope TRUMP wins I think we will see some very radical things come out of DC and big money folks trying to cover the ass’s in a hurry.

We might see a run for the border by some who are worried what a far ranging investigation about corruption in DC will reveal, but to stay on topic if Clinton wins Katy bar the door and have deeper than deep supplies.

More than a couple of people here have claimed Hillary is not coming for your guns. Don’t believe it. These people are either naive or DNC dirty trick artists attempting to loll you into a false sense of security. There is simply no limit to what she can accomplish in this area with the rubber stamp stooge judges she will appoint to the Supreme Court and get confirmed by compliant republicans, like that clown McCain.

My 10th grade history teacher told me the United States Constitution means what the Supreme Court says it means, not what is plainly written. So if you think the 2nd Amendment protects your rights, think again. The 2nd Amendment only protects your rights if a majority of justices agree it protects your rights. And today, it balances on a knife’s edge.

After throwing in my two zinc pennies worth above, I just bought a GrainMaker mill. Where I live here in North Middle Tn. they grow corn, wheat, soybeans, sorghum and tobacco. Also there are many Hispanic folks with goats that would love to have some cornmeal for trade!

Tango wrote: “Read Alinsky’s “rules for radicals”, and check off the items that have been done, to see where she will continue Obama’s plan for the destruction of our country.”

I think this is essential reading for all people, I have mentioned it several times, this is not a work of fiction like Atlas Shrugged, not an allegorical tale, rather it is the blueprint the left has been using for decades, and to counter it, one must know what it says….go out and get a copy and see how insidious they are in preying on your children’s minds! Wake up, get educated on your opposition and put counter measures in use….before it is too late to save our republic!

I realize that I’m not the most eloquent posters on MSB. So, please bear with me. I will start off by saying that Hillary scares me to pieces. With that said I’m doing more of the same to take care of myself and my family. I’m pretty sure we all are.

I envision the problems in our country stacked up like a mile high “Jenga” game. No matter who wins, the wrong Jenga piece will be pulled out (or already is) and all the game pieces that have been teetering will finally come crashing down.

My opinion is that the Democrats really didn’t want to win, that’s why Hillary is their candidate. They know the mile high blocks of dishonest, un-American, illegal, treacherous, lying game pieces are about to come down. Democrats want the Republicans in office when everything they’ve set up finally crashes down.

With that said, Republicans didn’t really want to win either. They also know the “Jenga” blocks are stacked. Trump is the surprise. No one thought he could make it. And here we are.

If Trump wins, Republicans will be blamed for the implosion that’s about to happen. Obama, the Clintons, Sanders, Gore, etc. will just smile and remind all their minions how evil are the Bible and gun hugging Republicans. Guess I’m on a list, again ya’ll, Beach’n

I mentioned this scenario with Hillary as president few days ago here. It is very depressing for me to think it will happen and how the outcome will be for a long time. It’s not just her corruption, it is top gov’t officials she will keep in or appoint. The thing I can do is have a plan for the worst of her corrupt Marxist policies and prepare for what history shows is the result of them.

I’ve been reading all the great comments and guess that I will as the saying goes and just keep plodding on, tucking stuff away. Mostly it’s things that you can’t stock up on that really bother me. The loss of rights, the massive intrusion and just the fundamental change the country has had shoved down our throats.

Seems that I am not voting this time- I didn’t move but changed my mailing address a month or so ago as I now get mail delivered rather than po box- so I didn’t get a ballot. Hmmm

I will beef up everything depending on the reaction of the sheeple. If there isn’t much chaos – I will maintain steady flow of stores, and keep homesteading as I do now.

I see a chaotic uprising no matter who wins to be quite honest.

I travel for a living. I stay within my state. I cover 25% here. It’s a large state… I don’t see too many Democrat signs in yards. The majority of Hillary signs are “Hillary for Prison” signs, Trump signs and trickle down effect for republican state officials. There are two or three major cities in my state that I do not have to travel to. Reports from co-workers state that they see Trump signs everywhere as well… Looks like the majority of my state is Trump. The past two elections, they leaned in the other direction, and of course “I have a pen and a cell phone” won. (Dang, and double dang)

I know one person who happens to live on my street – He is a Democrat supporter. I asked why are you voting for her? He stated (mid 70’s in age) “Because she is a woman”. —- REALLY????? That is the ONLY REASON???? Arr…… I can tell you… his wife does not wear the pants in his household. I don’t understand him. — I’m not supposed to I guess.

How can Hillary ‘supposedly’ be up in the polls (or even close in comparison) given that her campaign rally’s are attended by so few, whereas Trump rally’s are enormous in popularity? These stark differences in attendance over these months do not ‘add up’ with the MSM polls… (e.g. ‘neck and neck’).

People in Texas are claiming their votes are being changed. They are saying the machines are changing their votes. There is no way the race is this close in Texas according to the “polls”. There are literally no Hitlery signs anywhere. None. I can’t recall seeing any. Even so called Democrats it seems don’t like her.

I have been trying to get out and early vote. The forces are against me. lol. My truck broke down yesterday and I am still sick even after being on an antibiotic.

I have even done all the suggestions by my modern-survival friends. This cough, ear infection and fever are just hanging on.

I feel like I have much to do and cannot get anything done. Wrong timing to get sick.

Folks, the Constitution is just an old ship in Boston harbor. Precious few nationally elected/appointed people in D.C. have any concern for it or the people who’s freedoms it was intended to protect.

Elected Republicans are mostly complicit in the illegal aggregation of power to the Federal government, because they stupidly believe they will once again hold the reins of that power. I supported Cruz, will vote for Trump, yet I’m more worried about collapse of the financial house of cards than I am of Hillary.

Neither candidate can realistically deal with 20+ trillion dollars in debt without confiscation of private holdings (savings, IRAs, whatever they can grab) to satisfy creditors. So I’m keeping the batteries charged, fuel stored, barter items accumulated, and purchasing survival food. I’m also prepared to hunt and fish, and defend what I have, whatever size magazine is allowed by government diktat.

The NSA & homeland security have trashed the US Constitution through illegal surveillance and monitoring of all US citizens already. Expect it to continue and for things to become even worse after the election.

I voted for Trump because of the 22 amendment gave us term limits and I don’t believe the US should have a family monarchy in the White House whether it’s a Bush or a Clinton.

But most importantly I believe we as a nation and the rest of the world are heading straight into a total deflationary collapse of our economy. Regardless of who the next president will be.

If you’re not a prepper or getting ready for when the SHTF then you should be. When the commodities collapse and the energy companies go bankrupt followed by the banks and the negative interest rate, you will know we are heading straight for TEOTWAWKI.

Looks like Chelsea got a 900k gig right out of school, courtesy of one of her parents’ non-supporters (you know, those non-donors who just happened to pay a quarter of a million to hear her speak?) so I think she’s being set up to run. Give her a few years she’ll show up on the political scene, all innocent and ready to help her country! Bleh.

Lauren and Simmon,I think she is setting her sites higher than her Mommy.
Empress of the World at the least maybe of the Universe.
Podesta in an email said it all. (Paraphrasing here).She will put her arm around your shoulder then stick a knife in your back and in the front.That’s how one of her minions is treated. Can you imagine how she looks at the rest of us?
Oh,and don’t forget her hefty pay check she gets for being an ambassador for the Clinton Crime Foundation errh…Clinton non profit…foundation.

I am more worried about the futures of my children and their children. Policies/laws/ and regulations sometimes take years to mature. It was no mistake they flew the communist flag over the democrat convention without an American flag in sight.

I live in Florida. Over 1 million votes have been cast. Trump is in the lead.

I think the fix is much deeper than I thought possible – the markets seem to be kept in a very narrow range so as not to upset the current administration. Oil is by magic being kept near the $50 comfort range. Who can do this?

I had a dream that stuck with me about a week ago. I was riding in a 15 passenger van with a bunch of other people on the interstate near our town. It was dark. Someone pointed outside the window and said, “look!” and the sky was filled with military planes coming in. Immediately our van had to stop, and the interstate was backed up with traffic. I understood quickly that people were panicking and trying to leave, but the interstate was too jammed. We exited the van as a group and began to run, but I could hear a voice reassure us and say, “Don’t be afraid.” My understanding in the dream was that it was the voice of God.

Instantly the dream flipped over to Hillary Clinton, and she was in the White House laughing with a group of people. I knew in the dream that she was President, and that she was responsible for the airplanes moving in. I remember saying, “oh no! Is this what is going to happen?” and God’s voice came in again and said, “It doesn’t have to be. Pray.”

I interpret the dream as a warning and a call to action for Christians. I don’t particularly like Donald Trump, but I think Hillary Clinton is a danger to our national security and overall way of life. If you are a praying person, pray that she will not win. I truly believe that prayer is vital in this upcoming election. And by all means, get out there and VOTE!

Seeing what is happening to Christians in countries devastated by wars that we never should have been involved with leads me to recommend more than just voting. This terror may eventually require us to step up and defend ourselves.

Ok late to the gate again. But I watch little ones and have teenage daughters. I get on here everyday but don’t get to post.
I will continue to add even if it’s just for the bad winter they’re predicting for us.
My 2 cents is, isn’t it funny how after all these years Trumps skeletons are coming out. Where were they years ago? I don’t really care what he’s done. We all have things that would not be becoming if we ran for president. But weeks before the election is just wrong. That means Hitlary is scared. The people are speaking out. Even IF we don’t win. I was democratic but have switched to the Businessman because he is speaking my language. I just hope if he actually gets in, he does what he can to keep his promises.

There was a pic posted of Bill Clinton’s expression during the debate right after Trump brought up Bill’s indiscretions. Boy, if looks could kill! I figure that they are getting back at Trump for bringing up the subject. I’ve ‘read’ that at least a couple of the women have strong ties to the Clintons. Don’t know why people can trash Trump so bad for ‘words’ when Hiilary is just fine with actual deeds and trashed the women that Bill had ,er, relations, with calling them all sorts of really nasty names.

I just caught it on the radio – either they really did find something new we don’t know about yet – or the constant deluge of e-mails released by Wikileaks is creating enormous pressure within the FBI to do something. This may be nothing more than a CYA by Comey, but maybe something good will come from it. We can only hope!

You couldn’t make this up – if someone wrote all this *stuff* as a plot to a TV show no one would believe it. Our political leaders love to preach at politicians the world over about their bad politics, violence, corruption, etc… and look at what we have going. How big of idiots will we be if we elect her after everything that has come out about her and her family? I mean, come on… a woman under FBI investigation about to be elected as our leader. I can only hope some people wise up before election day. No wonder she has been pushing people to go vote early. Sheesh!

I heard on the radio, (paraphrased) that the people investigating the Weiner sexting crime found e-mails from the Clinton “server”. Guess they found some confidential documents attached? Probably stuff back and forth to Uma (wife of Weiner) and Hillary’s “assistant”. Beach’n

I’m just continuing with all me and Hubby began before he passed. Had to scale back on some of the bigger projects.
While I’m not thrilled with Trump, Clinton would be a downright disaster. Maybe I’m just being a grumpy old woman, but I’ve had ZERO respect for her since Bill was prez. I fear she’ll do anything to put her agenda forward.

I have been hearing and reading about many, many valid cases of vote-switching on the ‘George Soros’ company owned electroninc voting machines around the country. I read this statement this morning:

“As early elections take place in multiple states, more credible examples are coming to light of vote manipulation by electronic voting machines. The machines are gaining increased use in every state despite past problems. Earlier this year voters complained of machines switching their vote in the Texas primary from Trump to either Ted Cruz or Marco Rubio. It was noticed again in the Democratic primary in Chicago when almost 20% of votes in some precincts were switched from Sanders to Clinton. Wary voters are beginning to check their receipts for fraud and just this week computer voting machines in Texas and Georgia were switching votes from Trump to Clinton. While election workers try to get the machines to override the errors, no one will come to the conclusion that the computers are rigged, as Donald Trump complains. Computers don’t make these kinds of errors unless they are programmed to do so. There is no calculation involved, the computer only has to read an input and display it. Even if we assume they could make a random error, all the complaints this time around have been that the machines switched their vote to Clinton even though there are numerous other candidates on the display.”

First, bring attention to the situation, which I and others are doing. One might register their concern with the town officials in which they reside. (When people say or do nothing, then nothing happens)

For those who are voting with electronic voting machines, pay attention to the screen after you push the button – and be sure you’re voting for the person for which the button you pressed. I’ve also heard that there are many instances of vote fraud when someone selects all Republican (across the board) and they assume that all of the ‘R’ candidates have been electronically selected. Apparently some of these are being switched.

The fact that these voting machines have been built by a George Soros owned company is highly concerning. If you ask an ordinary sheeple person, they won’t even know who George Soros is… so that’s part of the problem (people just don’t know or care). Oh well…

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