Two adapters and shorten and respline the shafts. Basicly replace the tc adapter on a Ford 435 with a 203 then an adapter to bolt the 203 to the 205 making a very flexable setup that would be virtualy unbreakable. Along with a triple stick for control.

Two adapters and shorten and respline the shafts. Basicly replace the tc adapter on a Ford 435 with a 203 then an adapter to bolt the 203 to the 205 making a very flexable setup that would be virtualy unbreakable. Along with a triple stick for control.

The thought was to do the conversion in such a way that the 203 gear box would replace the current rather long tc adapter. It also seems like it should be able to be done for somewhat less thaqn $750 per adapter.

jeepsr4ever

08-19-2004, 05:48 PM

I oculd probly do it for around $500

:-|

hssss

07-22-2005, 02:27 AM

Things are finaly falling into place now I need to address the trans/tcase.
I have a 435/205 to use but would rather use a big spline top loader/203/205. I realy don't need a granny first, particularly if a doubler setup is used, and it will shift much better. I have a chevy 203 coming in the next couple of days and already have the toploader and 205 just need adapters and respline to put it all together. It appears that a 1" aluminum adapter plate should be able to pick up the bolts on the toplader and the bolts for a TH350 then an adapter similar to the ORD gen2 and respline both shafts. How do we procede? I think this would make a very good setup for a Jeep also since it should be fairly short. Also I believe that there is an earlier Jeep trans top and shifter that will work with the toploader, do you know which one and do you have one?

It's gone a bit over the initial budget of 1500 to 3500 but things such as doors, top, OBA, OBW, tilt bed, 2 M12000s, etc

Thant thing is gonna be killer!! Please keep the pics coming!! Do you have a pic of the Ferrari headlights?? Sa-weet!!

hssss

07-23-2005, 12:10 AM

http://admin.italparts.com/uploadedfiles/3385.jpg
I bouthe these over 20 years ago for my Porsche because back roads in FL are very dark and I was out driving my headlites. Had them on the shelf a long time, now I find that they are worth bout 400 the price sticker is still on the box 65.

Lifted79CJ7

07-23-2005, 12:10 PM

Man this looks like a killer project. I would be in extacy in your garage!! Pleae keep us updated!

hssss

07-25-2005, 02:12 AM

The garage is the tall part of the building and the part on the far side of it with the Cobra in front.
http://wrangler.rutgers.edu/albums/album49/DSC01160.sized.jpg

Got the mounts finished, finishing welding front winch mount, and started pulling the D0VE eng down. Will take pics and update album below. You might like the other project which has had to take a nap while the BJ is being built.

http://wrangler.rutgers.edu/albums/album05/DSC01799.sized.jpg

http://wrangler.rutgers.edu/gallery/hssss

Lifted79CJ7

07-25-2005, 05:23 PM

Yeah, I've been following your builds - sick! So is that an old school or what? I like it.. :wink:

Goose

07-25-2005, 05:50 PM

Wow Man are you having too much fun or what? you know I'm pretty sure that some of the things I have seen you doing here are not only against the laws of nature they are just too funky for words.. .. What I want to know is are you a crack dealer or does the money tree just sprout better in a warmer climate??

hssss

07-25-2005, 07:26 PM

Yeah it is an old school. A church that was closing down owned it and was closing down and getting rid of assets. I made them a realy rediculious, less than 1/3 what they were asking, and they accepted. Then I LET them finance it. It was built in the mid 70s and is 10000 sqft on 6 acres. WARM?? I live near Blacksburg VA it the Mtns. The BJ has less than 3500 in it with nearly all parts on hand now. The Willys cost 5k for the body but I have less than 2000 in eng/trans/axles/frame/suspension. I am REALY frugal (cheep). I retired to build hot rods, after 3 heart attacks (figured someone was trying to tell me something).

jeepsr4ever

08-24-2005, 07:22 PM

Can you post some pics of the drivetrain together and dimensions of the adaptors you need? After talking on the phone I am curious even more

The first set of pics show the doubler setup using the GM adapter. In my case I would be using a GM 203 rangebox and Ford 205. The stack would go Lakewood scattershield/case section of big spline toploader/adapter/TH400-203 adapter/ gm 203 rangebox/adapter/gm th400-208 adapter/Ford 205. The issues would be how large the output shaft is in the toploader, all indexing would be done by the gm adapters, the th400-208 would require minor mods to use with ford 205. Plusses would be this style of adapter would be useable for all combos, the input gear for the 203 can be 27/31/32 spline.

I was asked why I didn't just buy a 4500 and an Atlas. The Bj should have over 500 hp/tq and I can't imagine an atlas putting up with that very long. Also the toploader cost $75 (a while back), 435/205 came with chassis but I bought spares for $50 ea, the 203 was $25, the whole truck has bout 3500 in it total that wouldnt buy the 4500/Atlas. In a more traditional Jeep the 435/203/205 setup shouldn't be too long and bolts to Jeep engs and behind most Jeep engs should be indestructable(I know, I have friends that could break an anval with a ballpeen). I enjoyed our discussion today and hope we can work something.