tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post1594190403133507957..comments2016-11-30T16:19:59.288-06:00Comments on DFW Point-to-Point: Go Steady YetiSteve Ahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650405341304401203noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-74587490789125679092010-03-29T17:00:01.988-05:002010-03-29T17:00:01.988-05:00I tried it early this morning but will have to loo...I tried it early this morning but will have to look again. That streetview doesn&#39;t work well on an iPhone. It DID look fascinating, however.Steve Ahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650405341304401203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-20869650025590311582010-03-29T15:52:45.322-05:002010-03-29T15:52:45.322-05:00Following on from this, I thought I&#39;d share my...Following on from this, I thought I&#39;d share my lanes <a href="http://cyclesafeandhappy.blogspot.com/2010/03/lana-discipline.html" rel="nofollow">http://cyclesafeandhappy.blogspot.com/2010/03/lana-discipline.html</a>Hamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17182921009517833997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-63506749644122344792010-03-28T21:43:32.269-05:002010-03-28T21:43:32.269-05:00We birthed 8 more Yeti&#39;s today at the Cycling ...We birthed 8 more Yeti&#39;s today at the Cycling Center of Dallas. YETI&#39;S RULE!whareaglehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15824055294445501713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-66274908358872003302010-03-28T08:55:44.936-05:002010-03-28T08:55:44.936-05:00PM,
The cyclist shifted right, but never any furth...PM,<br />The cyclist shifted right, but never any further than where students are told to ride in Traffic 101, and where the course material shows cyclists riding in the first place. It was the rightward movement that induced the pass. I think &quot;I don&#39;t belong here&quot; overstates things. All of us get confused about things on occasion. Yes, even me.Steve Ahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650405341304401203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-53432960097924416562010-03-28T08:30:51.051-05:002010-03-28T08:30:51.051-05:00Those lanes look 11&#39; wide, and I&#39;m guessin...Those lanes look 11&#39; wide, and I&#39;m guessing the posted speed limit is 45 mph (both typical).<br /><br />Now some quotes/comments: <br /><br /><i>&quot;You see, vehicular principles are somewhat akin to lion taming. You, as the operator of the bike, are directing your motorists, because they mostly don&#39;t know how to behave around cyclists any more than YOU would know how to properly behave around lions. However, if you do the wrong thing, they may very well bite something off you are fond of off. Then you&#39;d become the subject of newspaper &#39;accident&#39; articles in which people will say it served you right.&quot;</i><br /><br /><b>Absolutely correct, and a good analogy.</b><br /><br /><i>&quot;This cyclist made a BAD mistake, and almost paid a high price for it. He tried to be &#39;nice.&#39; It is a mistake that many have criticized Reed Bates for NOT making.&quot;</i><br /><br /><b>Even though you describe the cyclist as operating in a vehicular manner, when he makes his &quot;mistake&quot;, he ceases doing so, and begins operating in the &quot;I don&#39;t really belong here&quot; mode... which is what Ennis is telling Reed Bates.</b><br /><br /><i>&quot;Sometime, not long after we passed him, the white pickup in the photo below came up behind him. Unlike MOST of the traffic, the pickup driver wasn&#39;t paying enough attention to what was going on, and he got boxed in behind the cyclist. The cyclist, in a misguided attempt to be courteous, moved right. The driver took that as a signal to pass without a lane change.&quot;</i> <br /><br /><b>And there you have it. When we &quot;move over&quot;, we clearly send the signal to the overtaking vehicle that it&#39;s OK to pass us in the lane. Bad mistake.</b><br /><br /><i>&quot;Look at that lane and tell me a cyclist and a full size pickup can coexist peacefully in it. Well, even the pickup driver realized the folly of THAT notion before impact actually occurred, and he did a straddle pass that got him beyond the cyclist.&quot;</i><br /><br />WWMTFD? (What Would a Model T Ford Do?)PM Summerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08841490283131875648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-54817857134100727262010-03-28T07:11:58.060-05:002010-03-28T07:11:58.060-05:00Ham, your comment was unusually well considered. A...Ham, your comment was unusually well considered. Actually, I almost did put something in about the way to be courteous if traffic stacks up is to exit the road and let the stack pass before proceeding. I didn&#39;t include that because the road in question was not so clogged that the cyclist was actually holding people up. I don&#39;t recall the speed limit on NW Highwy but it felt 50ish. As in mph/Steve Ahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13650405341304401203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-81814569043875523432010-03-28T06:24:32.968-05:002010-03-28T06:24:32.968-05:00Interesting culture thing you&#39;ve highlighted. ...Interesting culture thing you&#39;ve highlighted. First, we don&#39;t have any rural-ish 3 lane highways like this. Where they are dual carriageways (mostly 2-lane)they are treated like motorways (freeways) and become exceptionally unpleasant and unwise to cycle on, there are always alternatives. <br /><br />But, as can see traffic turning across the road, then I take it that it is closer to a UK &quot;A&quot; road, although I can&#39;t see any lorries in shot - not something that is likely here. <br /><br />I have to say, those lanes look w-i-i-i-de to me. And, if I was riding an A road, I&#39;d position myself roughly on that dark stripe near the cyclist&#39;s head. That leaves sufficient room for motorists to pass, most will pass well, the occasional one will be closer than you would like.<br /><br />What speeds do cars do on these roads? In the UK, on a 3-lane highway you would expect all drivers to be around 70, with normal speeds varying up to 90, some faster. Did I mention cycling on something like this over here might be unpleasant?<br /><br />I agree fully that whatever you are doing, you need to carry on doing it. The only exception is if you decide to pull over and stop (as I do sometimes if I am on a long climb on a road with 2-way traffic, single lane, with a lorry behind me.)Hamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17182921009517833997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-71065854631164880782010-03-27T23:36:41.632-05:002010-03-27T23:36:41.632-05:00Great post! I especially love it as it deals with ...Great post! I especially love it as it deals with the consequences when cyclists, in the name of courtesy, let a vehicle squeeze by in the same lane. It is a good idea not to let a vehicle squeeze into the same lane. Totally agree!<br /><br />It wasn&#39;t me on Northwest Hwy today but just as easily could have been me two weekends ago.<br /><br />Again, nice post, great details and exhibits!<br /><br />Peace :)Chandrahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11272116464292908327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-45931749680486480022010-03-27T23:21:25.777-05:002010-03-27T23:21:25.777-05:00No, that&#39;s just his dangle.
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vehicular pr...No, that&#39;s just his dangle.<br /><br />;D<br /><br /><br /><i>vehicular principles are somewhat akin to lion taming</i><br /><br />I prefer to think of it as carherding.Doohickiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06088639153697449691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2523357558654725888.post-45364982645875156152010-03-27T21:01:47.421-05:002010-03-27T21:01:47.421-05:00Is the wooden Yeti in the first picture wearing a ...Is the wooden Yeti in the first picture wearing a thong?...Velouriahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.com