LE

As one who's worn the maroon beret exclusively I'd put forth the argument that you Euros wear yours like Frenchmen.

"I never meant to say that the conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it." - John Stuart Mill

LE

Why not, Black beret was taken from the US Cavalry & Armor so why not the stetson. Modeled after the British tanker versions of course it was headgear that made sense in a tank. Black so that black greasy hands don't change the appearance and so on.

Three things generally happen when you meet someone unlike yourself:

1. We try to clone them and make them like us.
2. We reject them and push them away.
3. We find common ground and a place of agreement.

Yet in all three we assert one fundamental concept, that we are right.

What if when we encounter someone unlike us we seek to see ourselves through their eyes and become open to the possibility that we are wrong?

LE

This is the only proper cap to wear when one is in ACU (which currently for the Army seems to be all the time now. ) Apparently we still have to wear the hated beret (WEE WEE MON SEWER) in our Class A dress though. I would say let the Airborne, Rangers, Green Berets, etc. have the lids of the appropriate colour for wear and give us regular dogfaces back our **** caps and bus driver hats.

My name was read out by the clerk and I had to go sit in the jury box. I didn’t get excused by the judge or the prosecution; even the defense attorney had no objection to me so I had to sit at a sex offense trial. At least it was quick and over in one day. We found the guilty bastard er.. guilty.

LE

Thank Christ someone at HQDA finally listened to the Joes. Prefer my Field Cap, M1951 (Be it OD Woodland or DCU/ACU) anyday over that hunk of shit beret. And realistically who among the US gives a flying **** how you British wore it. Different army you dont wear yours properly like a Frenchman, so ******* what?

Everyone who has to wear it, surely. It's one of the other things that gets bitched about.

We already use MultiCam in Afghanistan, but it's for in-theatre only. Good news, though, the US Army gave the industry a notice to submit new patterns for consideration in Phase IV of testing for the next pattern we'll wear. The requirements said they're basically looking at a four-pattern family: Forest, Desert, "Transitional", and then a pattern which will be used on kit to match all three. We should hear more in July, and we may have a new uniform to wear as early as 2012.

Old-Salt

I agree with you on that one; though, there are different "flashes" (what we call them) depending on if you're with a special unit.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the beret as a dress headgear, I just wish ours didn't look quite so damn retarded. Still, they look more professional than the OTHER ridiculous hats we had to wear in dress.

LE

Thank Christ someone at HQDA finally listened to the Joes. Prefer my Field Cap, M1951 (Be it OD Woodland or DCU/ACU) anyday over that hunk of shit beret. And realistically who among the US gives a flying **** how you British wore it. Different army you dont wear yours properly like a Frenchman, so ******* what?

MIA

I have to say that the beret never seemed to work with US Military Traditions - except the SOG groups who'se tradition derived from us Brits. That said I'm not so sure that terrible Patrol Cap hat is the way forward.