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Interesting side note, for those of you who've been there. If you've ever been to Roppongi, it's named after the 6 important families (or &quot;family trees&quot from that area (Roppon = 6, Gi = Trees).

KumaSan, you kick ass. How about giving weekly lessons on Japanese? I would definately pay attention.

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is the kanji for shi also pronounceable as yon, or is yon another kanji for the number 4?

japanese numbers drive me crazy.

ichi ni san shi, etc. but then you use yon usually for 4 because, (IIRC) the kanji for death is pronounced the same as shi, or the kanjis look alike or something. fourth degree black belt is yondan, the 4th kata you learn is called shodan-yon, and the 4th rank under black belt is yonkyu. and you can't find a tea set for 4 people at a store.