For aspiring aid climbers still acquiring gear it could be worth researching / considering?
I don't know pumpensmear, and also have not personally used the Metolius Easy (whatevers), but have heard some good things about them.(I was tempted to get them myself to further experiment with, but already have too many etts and not enough time to use them all... )

I reckon those aiders would be good for seconding a pitch, I don't know how they would go leading. Seems like a bit of faffing around would be required to learn to use them. I've read those metolious buckles are pretty weak too

I have used BD aiders and Alpine aiders before and switched to Yates ladders a few years ago, they are more expensive but simple and fast to use plus pretty burly, the spreader bar helps a lot keeping the steps open, I was instantly much quicker on aid when I switched to these. Highly recommended as a first etrier

I recently tried out the Yates Daisy's and I'm not 100% convinced on them yet, they are good for adjusting your daisy length when jumaring though.

I'll have my rack and ladders down at the weekend for people to borrow,

On 27/07/2013 phillipivan wrote:>On another note, I want some route suggestions. General criteria: 1 to>3 Pitches in length; Grade ~m5/m6. Is there much in that grade range that>isn't on the North Wall? Or said differently; harder than Faust & Elizabeth,>but less difficult/scary than your Ethical Drum, and doable in a day (long>days OK).>
Good single pitch climb....I thought Premier was alright. I did it last aid gathering...it's just down Burston's Crevasse a wee bit. M5, I hammered a bit. I also ripped a huge chunk off it and fell onto Ti a while back on it, the rock is a little suspect.

Last pitch of Strange Ritual if you wanna do a bunch of hooking, about M4-5, more balls than skill.

That thing that Rod put up on top of the plateau wouldn't hold any of my gear, so it's probably fun too.

Someone should go a do She, it's a great climb, just a little dirty....

On 7/09/2013 The gymp wrote:>I'd really love to come along. Please add me to the list. Maybe one other with me.

Done.

P-I; ... maybe the flake I am remembering is the one you pulled then. I didn't see it till afterwards, but it sounded impressive!

To help logistics of gear required, I will need to know closer to the time of event, confirmation of attendee numbers, and whether or not you have their own gear, plus what aid experience level you feel you are at (if I don't already know!).

(~> ... Reminder to self; check if campsite/s booking for that period is required.)