Japanese have lately been marvelling at the precocious dress of elementary schoolers of late, with Hinata and Riria (both 12 or 13) taken to be cases in point.

2ch for its part has been quick to denounce this “bitchification” of the nation’s young girls, perhaps smarting to see them not dressed as little sailors instead…

Although some of the girls pictured are obviously models, enough of them look to be normal schoolgirls for some conclusions about contemporary schoolgirl fashion to be drawn.

Those tempted to decry this as “bitchification” might do well to note that the notion that 13-year-olds should look and behave like innocent little dolls is a relatively recent one – in Edo period Japan marriage generally started at 14, and even in the west hyper-puritanical attitudes to adolescents are far from ancient, so from a historical perspective such antics are not particularly shocking.

The minxes! The temptresses! So it’s not just a manga/anime thing,they actually exist. Some of them have the typical Minisuka look(OK,more like Imouto in some cases)so I suppose they could make a career in that kind of modelling. As for the answer of how they make money,it’s probably here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enjo_k%C5%8Dsai, although some of them may have rich daddies,or the parents are divorced and try to compensate with gifts… But I don’t get the last picture…they’re basically toddlers! (and not particularly beautiful,for that matter) Even I can wait till they’re 11-12,at least…

Some of these girls have a good sense of fashion! Honestly, no one should worry too hard on this. Girls their age will always dress older- and then look back and laugh nervously when they’ve reached the age where it’s acceptable to dress that way!

I think they’re “okay” clothes. Some of them just have short shorts-I did too at my age and no one found it shocking. I made silly poses at a camera and was curious about make-up too.
Who took half of those photos anyway? That’s the real question.

Extremely creepy post since it’s actual real life kids in pedo stalker pics and not cartoon characters. Anyways, those first two girls in the pic that shows up on the main page are NOT elementary school girls. That’s not possible unless they’re retards who have been held back like 10 times. They can’t make elementary school kids like that these days.

I didn’t see them as whores because I don’t see anything sexual about girls this age. I’m not projecting anything sexual onto them. They just look like kids to me. Kids trying to be trendy (as many kids often try to do). If I saw them irl I’d probably think they looked silly, shrug, and continue on my way to some actual attractive girls.

>I see them as whores because I see everything sexual about girls this age. I’m projecting everything sexual onto them. They don’t just look like kids to me. Kids trying to be sluts (as many kids often try to do). If I saw them irl I’d probably think they looked like prostitutes, shrug, and continue on my way to some actual attractive 2D lolis.

Of course he would. Most of what he does is because he’s arrogant and gets pissed off when other people think badly about Japan. He wants everyone to think Japan is awesome and powerful and better than anyone. So yeah, he’d be on other sites just to see what people were saying about Japan.

Wow thats pretty bad, the 1st few photos had them going right to the prostitute clothes. Even though most prostitutes in Japan are age 10 to 13 its not uncommon with the blueberry, cellphone and computer forums they hire and sell themselves on, with clothes like that the kids are going to be murdered regulary like the little girl in Colorado who was in beauty pagents that they never found the killer. Also, their daddies will probably be rapeing their friends every time they come over for visits. Does Japan actually have it out to end the rest of their lives? In the Sailor Suits you knew it was off limits and Jail Bait. Without, it just looks like a prostitue with paracites who isn’t eating this week. You lose Japan.

Japan and the goddamned rest of the world need to wake up. The fact is that human females AND males are becoming more and more developed at younger and younger ages.

They have looked at this over in the U.K. and Europe and have not been able to link this to pollution of any kind, hormone mimicking things, etc.

It just appears that nature is telling humanity “HEY YOU DIPSHITS! Children are born with genitals from birth! Since you won’t admit just by that, that they are supposed to be sexually active, I’ll give you ANOTHER wakeup call… a harsher one!”

Everything about this turns my stomach. Look, from 18 on, you have the rest of your life to get knocked up, catch a VD and generally act like a low-rent hooker. Let kids be kids FFS. I would straight bitch-slap a parent if I saw them let their kid come to school like this. Horrible.

The cute lolis….ARE A TRAP, Admiral Ackbar told me himself!! even caught smiling to a thought in ones head while looking at a magazine with them in it will get you arrested in japan, they are all traps, run pedos, RUN IF YOU CAN’T RESIST THE LOLI-POPS!!

I for one also think the lower age thing is evolution. Basically when we reproduced at younger ages those who could give birth multiple times at young ages may have had a gene that had the enter puberty sooner thus enabling safer birth. It’s just that evolution is slow and just caught up. Oh and the food stuff at least slightly.

Isn’t it more creepy to think about what kind of people would post an opionion like yours on a site like this? Actually less creepy and more scary. It sounds like you take this site and this topic serious. This makes you a very, very scary anon.

Please, if you should decide to go around killing people in a more serious manner,.. make sure to get some of those feminazis and politicians that are regulary denounced on this site.

Since when are the clothes for “dressing cute” and “dressing as whores” the same? Could it be that the desire to dress cute is an expression for craving sex and thus means dressing like a slut, but phrased more politely?

I mean.. dressing up means that you want to be seen. And making yourself cute is an active way to draw attention to yourself. Hence the first anon is right. If they get molested they brought it onto themselves.

Oh.. you were talking about the particular pictures shown above? I was speaking in a more general context, like the anon from 19:31 16/10/2011.

Anyway… dressing up cute is meant to draw attention, regardless of age. It’s a double edged sword, since it also attracts… people you don’t really want to attract.

@23:36 16/10/2011
Just saying that every action will result in a reaction. If I provoke some scroundrels into beating me up, I’m partially responsible for their actions. At the end of the day their still wrong and could be prosecuted, but that is another story.

So, I ask again: since when are the clothes for “dressing cute” and “dressing as whores” the same?

Because you’re actually knowing something about it?
I mean something that’s not out of your delusional narrow-minded pedobrain which can’t see the difference between wanting to look cute and being a slut?

“Those tempted to decry this as “bitchification” might do well to note that the notion that 13-year-olds should look and behave like innocent little dolls is a relatively recent one – in Edo period Japan marriage generally started at 14, and even in the west hyper-puritanical attitudes to adolescents are far from ancient, so from a historical perspective such antics are not particularly shocking.”
…did…I just see Artefact state something unbiased and factual?

Human animals “in the wild” would be ready for mating by early teens. Comparatively, they would mostly die by mid-20’s if not sooner from natural causes (which for “caveman” could be anything from lack of food to attacks by other animals), disease, etc.

I’m not fully agreeing with every clothing piece these girls wear however
1) these young girls are the children of older gyaru generations and also model for gyaru mags
2) MOST healthy minded human beings think kids wanting to look adult is CUTE…Little girls are fascinated by adulthood but that doesn’t mean they are “sluts” or “bitches”…
Small boys want to drive fast cars, little girls want to wear make-up…It’s natural…

I’m not saying it’s acceptable without restrictions, in the end they are just children…All they see is that adults like to dress like this and they are considered “stylish”…

But wearing a miniskirt doesn’t equal sexual activitites nor does it imply one will start to have sex at an early age…

Except the first few pics, most of what the kids are wearing are fairly normal clothes that kids wear, e.g. shorts, skirts, t-shirts, etc… nothing particularly sexualised. The weirdos are the ones who view such normal outfits with their own sense of perversion. I bet most of us here grew up with friends who wore t-shirts and shorts no different from here.

I fear for the next generation if all the pedos here are baying about how they find all these “lolis” so sexy and are so turned on. It is all the commentors here who croaked about how they are whores who are fucked in the head.

Tell me how are all these girls whores? They look like girly girls who are probably annoying and screechy about pink fluffy goods rather than how to attract some dirty old man:

Listen, I’m not interested in (3D) lolis. But one thing I want to say is that in the US, where I live, all girls either dress like boys or dress like total sluts. It’s refreshing to see some girls actually look like girls.

I’m surprised their parents let them die their hair this young. If I told my mom I wanted to bleach my hair blond when I was 13ish my mom would have said no way, and if I was a brat and disobedient she would have had me die it back.

For SOME places it;s 7th or 8th grade for elementary. The US has NO standardization for school systems. In my state for instance when i started kids had to be 6 before going then it changed to 5-6. School begins early august now not late august and so on. So it REALLY depends on the area you live.

Don’t be stupid this isnt the reply to girls craving sex, this is what people are feeding their children. They are only imitating their idols, the people who dress this way. This world has gone to hell. Although this situation isn’t nearly anywhere close to the magnitude of China’s.

Wait! Some guy actually managed to not only look at a Primary School Girl, but ACTUALLY take pictures of them and speak with them… Without getting reported to the Police or having to fork out money?!! WTF is going on?!

What do they expect? Young girls are idolized and constantly bombarded with sexualation of girls their age on tv, magazines, and manga. Also think of the mothers of young girls who were teens when the idol and fashion era began in the early 90’s. Of course they will dress their daughters up to be hip with all the styles no matter the cost because girls must be popular to be successful. But they should know better then expose their under 14 children thighs and put them in cute skirts without bloomers. They are kids and don’t care about modesty while playing or riding there bike.

You immediately assume that most of these kids’ parents MADE them dress like that. Haven’t you ever thought of PEER PRESSURE?

Some of these kids could be coming from the projects, but bugged their parents anyway so that they can look ‘cool’ as everyone else in class. That shouldn’t be something elementary school kids should worry about.

Made them? No it’s not about that. But these girls clothes are bought for them. They are given to ok to go to school like that. They know what they want to wear but it’s the parents who have to think of all the pros and cons. Kids arn’t going to understand they are being called sluts and bitches by men from just wearing a short skirt. Sexual promiscuity is furthest from their mind.

These are real kids. Not sexually mature or attractive. Not idealized 2D girls. Just kids who are trying to hard. And kids who try to act grown up in the wrong ways never fail to be annoying as fuck. And they only get more annoying with age.

Yes but do all cases in every country get reported? I doubt it so we can assume an increase in ALL countries figures. So while it probably won’t even it out it’s still most likely one of the countries with lower rates.

Yeah and anyone who believes canada is the best place on earth is a fool. My point of course being we all here things about places. Though as i also said even with high rates of unreported it still could easily even itself out their rates are so low.

Which leads to yet another theory: what if the reason kids are acting the way they do these days is because their world today created an image for them that is against nature? Others factors play into this too, but I think this is worth looking into. In the past, kids used to be treated like small adults and were given responsibilities as soon as they were capable of carrying them out. Now, adults trap kids into a world of ignorance by denying them the realities of the adult world. Because it was denied them; they desire to be part of it and be like adults even though being an adult these days is far from fun.

I guess what I’m really trying to say from all by dribble is that really folks, bullshit is what’s reigning in this world today. Bullshit is everywhere to the point that there’s so much shit in front of us that we can’t even notice it anymore.

You should see the way my 14- and 15- year old sisters dress for school….. makes me sick half the time. The differece here in america is that the children aren’t like the asian ones. American children would fight their captors to the bitter end…. i even remember a story in which a 12 year old girl who got kidnapped fought her captor, kicked him in the nuts really hard, then called her mom.

Now asian girls in the same situation, they would be like… what’s going on? and the captor would say… we’re just taking a trip, and she would go along with it, once the captor takes her inside his safehouse… she may object at first, but they become docile… and only escape when their captor lets them go…

(That second part is, of course if anime and hentai series are worth following to understand mindsets…)

bwahahahaha, now that’s funny! Europe practically created teen exploitation. And the formula is simple too. Just take one starving Eastern European girl, starve her some more, add makeup, take plenty of pictures and sell pictures to fashion magazines. drug or dispose of girls, repeat cycle.

Business is war so Sparta is the best place, you can do your business in the nude. Too bad they didn’t erect walls to keep away their neighbour’s prying eyes. It’d have ancient tradition to trump religious discrimination.

No it definitly happens in Europe, too.
It may not be that widespread (yet). But it happens. Although it seems that most of the times it’s because some parents like using their kids as dress-up dolls.
On that note, I think that it’s not definitly wrong, but depending on the situation. If the kids do it because their parents tell them to or they think they have to because of the media’s influence, it’s wrong. But if they just like it, so what, let them dress that way. (Although you may argue how someone usually (e.g. a child) comes to like a certain fashion style, if not because of direct or indirect influence of the media)

“Actually in europe the opposite is happen in the most countries because of the increase of islamic people there so standards change to not ‘discriminate’ them with nudity.”
AHAHAHAHAH OH WOW. Implying europeans actually CARE about religion.

That aside, I didn’t really paid attention to this, but it’s definitely happening in Europe too. That aside, I don’t find that mini-shorts are THAT slutty, but the acumulation of shorts, slut hair, and “slutwear” is.
Bitches needs to get taught something about mode…

I disagree as being so vain at such a young age is not healthy.
Be overly concerned with one’s looks as a grade schooler almost certainly causes self image problems later in life.
We have more then enough of that shit as it is.

I agree. Plus, don’t you guys ever see girls wear short shorts and the like nowadays? It’s fairly a normal fashion statement.. especially in sweltering summers. But nothing quite like the short-shorts for little boys in the 90’s..

Kodomo no Jikan was actually a very realistic portrayal of girls that age, and furthermore the only one I know that is so. Those girls in the pictures are very probably masturbating, having rape/bondage fantasies, wanting desperately to get into some boy’s pants and all the nine yards. Puberty does that to you.

This is like Jessi Slaughterification of kids. Kids at such a young age shouldn’t be bothered too much by trends and fashion. Especially trends; I thought all kids are taught to do their own thing? Instead, they have another aspect of peer pressure added to them.

At least, wait until high school. They can’t even begin to work part time(otherwise it’s child laboring), so they’re effectively sucking their parents’ money to follow these fashin trends. If their parents are lawyers and/or Jew, they don’t need to worry, but what about the poorer men and women who wore a bad condom or had this misleading thought that a ‘safe day’ is completely safe?

I remember that until we hit 10-12 we didn’t give a damn about clothes, we just wore what our parents gave us. I think the most we’d go for is when we had very nice new shoes and stationary (from backpacks to pencils). Kids shouldn’t be so concerned about clothes, I blame the parents.

Most of us aren’t fashionable enough to attract a mate and breed thus it’s the fashionable ones who bred these fashionable peer pressuring kids.

If manga is any guide then difference from your peers will get you ostracized in the Japanese school leading to suicides. It’s kids’ lives on the line so get to studying the problem. It might save them from enjo-kosaing for their new clothes.

if you dont like rap dont listen to it. you dont see us “blacks” calling other peoples music garbage except for Kesha and Justin beiber of which i totally agree on but i cant argue you down about your taste. Just dont say its bad because it doesnt appeal to or connects with you. BTW Country is almost the same shit.

Let me make this point iron strong…. keysha is one of the very worst things to ever happen to U.S. Music since…… hmm… well i guess Britney Spears, AND rap music. pleas let me introduce the point that rap music is also VERY VERY bad. It really aint even ‘music’ its just the blacks talking about their ‘bitches’ their drugs, their gangs, and crimes of violence while unfitting beats are played. and britney spears’ music is decent, well, some of it, but americans kinda see her in the light that otaku see aya hirano atm, but it’s for a different reason, one of which you will probably never see in japan.

Today’s mainstream rap is garbage. I’ve been a fan of rap and hip-hop since the early 90s, and it sickens me to hear most of today’s hits. Basically, today’s rap is considered ring-tone rap, which consists of a heavy beat combined with a high pitched synth loop that you can dance to in a club while drunk. The lyrics are generic and soulless and don’t mean anything in particular. (Kind of like JPOP when translated into English.)

On the other hand, underground artists like CunninLynguists and older mainstream groups like Outkast provide us with music that remains true to rap’s musical roots. These artists actually have musical talent.

There is a lot of good rap out there that is poetic, well-written, and has positive messages. The fact that you seem to think it’s a racial thing, or that you think it’s all bad just shows a lack of education on your part. It’s not anyone else’s fault if you only expose yourself to negative music or don’t expand your horizons beyond what is clearly stereotypical.

Now there’s something wrong with violence? There’s violence in nearly all media. Ok, so you don’t like Eminem. There’s plenty of others that disprove your statement. Just saying. It’s pretty ignorant to make such a broad statement about a genre that you seem to hardly know. Or care for that matter.

Then you haven’t heard mc chris or Eminem. Both white guys who aren’t all about money and women. How about Mega Ran. Optimus Rhyme. Most of rap is shit, but there are some really good gems in there who speak some true stuff.
As for Spears and Kesha, they can go to the same place as Brokencyde. In some fiery pit of Hell.

No wonder there is so much Sekuhara in Japan…
How can they run around dressed like that,that’s even worse than those clothes from Kodomo no Jikan.

About the music:
Bad music is music from those who don’t know a tad shit about music and still try to sell the crap they compose(like everyone in the all-time-charts).
The real masterpieces of music are only enjoyed by a minority of people (like most classical music pieces, and with classical I don’t mean shit like the Beatles but classical orchestra/organ music or some decent dojin musicians).

Good musicians make music not to live from it but because they enjoy making music and don’t spawn disgraceful crap because their contracted record label forces them to produce X songs/albums per year.

Someone who profilates himself through youtube is just a poor creature with no brains longing for advertence…

Music can actually be measured, horrible music is actual math how it effects ones brain or rather how it “can” effect the effect is up to the person and the skills involved to play, sing, compose, etc, or …etc hitting notes, finding semi tones, flats sharps that work well with the sounds so on and so forth.

How one enjoys the this is also a factor but not the biggest, people can enjoy horrible music. It still remains horrible music.

More like what they call in the US rave / underground club scene “prostitots”: any girl under the legal age of 18 that dresses like a prostitute / slut.

And everyone wonders why there are so many underage girls having babies nowadays?; it’s because the PARENTS allow their 13 year old daughters leave the house dressed like that, and buy those clothes for them!

If it was MY daughter, I’d ground her for a year.

Then again, I would NEVER buy these types of clothes for her, especially if she was a ‘model’ as someone pointed out.

Well, isn’t the Japanese old guard bitching about the country’s low birth rates? If they get knocked up early, the can pump out a handful of kids before their eggs go bad, thus preventing the need to allow dirty foreigners to emigrate.

Problem with that is that most of them would just get abortions. Since there’s not as much moral stigma about it there, I’m sure the parent would have no trouble taking their daughter in to get one if she was too young.

And actually the sooner you get pregnant (not “14 year old” sooner though) the healthier your baby will be since the eggs are still young too! 😀 Take that, old hags! Now Japanese people, GATTAI and produce a new generation!