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Re: Pacers/Raptors postgame thread

Watching Roy sob the whole 4th on the bench was sad. Dude looked disinterested can't believe we put him back in the game. He is crying why the rest of the team is engaged is wrong hope management does something about it. That is unacceptable for any player can't root for someone who talks big tweets big when he plays good and acts like a leader. Leaders don't cry they lead though advert times that's true leadership. Roy act is far worse than his play. Sad thing is Roy was engaged last year even when he sucked. I guess getting paid changes you.

He was probably reading PD on his phone and all the vitriol we were (justifiably) spewing his way.

Re: Pacers/Raptors postgame thread

He's losing every game by a couple points and is without the teams best player and team captain.

It's not his fault the front office gave him the worst bench ever and allowed Granger to wait all offseason to get surgery. I still can't believe they knew about this right after the playoffs and they didn't do the surgery during the offseason. This new front office is brain damaged.

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Re: Pacers/Raptors postgame thread

I can't even get myself excited about this team. I just haven't been sold on it and caught up on Homeland and Boardwalk Empire tonight instead of watching the game. And this is coming from someone who watched that entire wonderful year when we had Kareem Rush. Didn't miss a game that year.

Re: Pacers/Raptors postgame thread

He's losing every game by a couple points and is without the teams best player and team captain.

It's not his fault the front office gave him the worst bench ever and allowed Granger to wait all offseason to get surgery. I still can't believe they knew about this right after the playoffs and they didn't do the surgery during the offseason. This new front office is brain damaged.

Idc what you say, losing to a team coming off a triple overtime game and missing their best player is just a joke. Yes Roy missed a bunch of layups that proved to be the difference, but this team is obviously not responding to Vogel right now.

His lack of X's and O's were always offset by his ability to get the team to play harder than everyone else--with that no longer the case, we're screwed.

Re: Pacers/Raptors postgame thread

The one thing I don't entirely get is the extreme backlash at Vogel. The offense is as vanilla as it gets, but the roster isn't exactly well put together. Especially since the entire offense is predicated on Roy Hibbert's ability to score in the low post. If that isn't happening, we are in DEEP ****. And it's not.

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Re: Pacers/Raptors postgame thread

Look guys.

... You know what? I had about a 3-4 paragraph post about how we're still going to be a playoff team and things are going to eventually gel, and even if we aren't a #2 seed that does not mean we aren't going to be a force come playoff time. I really believe that.

But I know that no one is going to listen and it's just going to get flamed, so instead, I deleted that and you get this:

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Re: Pacers/Raptors postgame thread

I'm certainly disappointed Lance didn't get in the last few minutes.

It may not have mattered, but then again, there were several possessions down the stretch where we needed a good entry pass and some sanity around the perimeter. Paul George choked numerous times. It may have made the difference if Lance had the ball on just one of those possessions.

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"I like our group of people," Ainge told USA Today. "I'm trying to teach them about basketball, and they're trying to teach me about analytics."

Re: Pacers/Raptors postgame thread

The one thing I don't entirely get is the extreme backlash at Vogel. The offense is as vanilla as it gets, but the roster isn't exactly well put together. Especially since the entire offense is predicated on Roy Hibbert's ability to score in the low post. If that isn't happening, we are in DEEP ****. And it's not.

Yeah I don't get the Vogel crapping either, it's not his fault that the Pacers front office gave him a crappy team to begging with.

Re: Pacers/Raptors postgame thread

... You know what? I had about a 3-4 paragraph post about how we're still going to be a playoff team and things are going to eventually gel, and even if we aren't a #2 seed that does not mean we aren't going to be a force come playoff time. I really believe that.

But I know that no one is going to listen and it's just going to get flamed, so instead, I deleted that and you get this:

Re: Pacers/Raptors postgame thread

... You know what? I had about a 3-4 paragraph post about how we're still going to be a playoff team and things are going to eventually gel, and even if we aren't a #2 seed that does not mean we aren't going to be a force come playoff time. I really believe that.

But I know that no one is going to listen and it's just going to get flamed, so instead, I deleted that and you get this:

i envy your enthusiasm.

"We've got to be very clear about this. We don't want our players hanging around with murderers," said Larry Bird, Pacers president.