Masons are not O.T.O (Ordo Templi Orientis, or Eastern Temple) pawns. The O.T.O as ran by the beast Aleister Crowley says that the O.T.O was
quasi-masonic. Wheher its creator, Wilfred T Smith would have agreed with him is debatable.So, yes, the two are tenuously connected but thats
all.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
I think you're being incredibly vague about General Albert Pike!
"Albert Pike was a mason." . At the time his title was The Sovereign Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of the Scottish Rite in Washington D.C
. He was in fact the number one mason. . .

Number one Scottish Rite Mason in the Southern Jurisdiction. Those qualifiers need to be
there. Not all Masons join the Scottish Rite, and the Southern Jurisdiction hardly gives anyone world-wide authority over all of Masonry. He was the
head guy for some Masons in one part of the country. Fair enough?

There is no point and trying to sway these retards they have been tranformed thru the rituals when they find out it will be to late there soul will
be one with lucifer.

Have fun widow sons time is short and the lakes fire is just right...

You have been warned of your deeds- Repent!

Lucifer is the farther of lies and you will know them by there fruits hmmmmm

here a nice movie
What goes on behind the closed doors of the masonic lodge? Jack Harris, former worshipful master in the masonic lodge, reenacts portions of masonic
rituals from the first three degrees in freemasonry and explains what he taught in the lodge. Is freemasonry a religion? And why all the rituals? Get
an in-depth answer from Jack Harris in the John Ankerberg show! If you are truly curious about freemasonry, and what goes on behind closed doors, you
want this show

Albert Pike received a vision, which he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans
for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the One World Order, and we can marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that
have already taken place.

Pike's Letter to Mazzini
It is a commonly believed fallacy that for a short time, the Pike letter to Mazzini was on display in the British Museum Library in London, and it was
copied by William Guy Carr, former Intelligence Officer in the Royal Canadian Navy. The British Library has confirmed in writing to me that such a
document has never been in their possession. Furthermore, in Carr's book, Satan, Prince of this World, Carr includes the following footnote:

"The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man
of Cardinal Rodriguez's knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925".

It appears that Carr learned about this letter from Cardinal Caro y Rodriguez of Santiago, Chile, who wrote The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled.

To date, no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written. Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much
discussion.

Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.

"The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country
a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the "agentur" (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will
be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken
the religions." 2

Students of history will recognize that the political alliances of England on one side and Germany on the other, forged between 1871 and 1898 by Otto
von Bismarck, co-conspirator of Albert Pike, were instrumental in bringing about the First World War.

"The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be
brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine.
During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and
held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm." 3

After this Second World War, Communism was made strong enough to begin taking over weaker governments. In 1945, at the Potsdam Conference between
Truman, Churchill, and Stalin, a large portion of Europe was simply handed over to Russia, and on the other side of the world, the aftermath of the
war with Japan helped to sweep the tide of Communism into China.

(Readers who argue that the terms Nazism and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements. In
addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution. In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years
before revolution broke out. Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau - as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam
Weishaupt.)

"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the "agentur" of the "Illuminati" between the political
Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the
State of Israel) mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point
of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion…We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable
social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody
turmoil. Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers
of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction,
anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure
doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view. This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow
the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time." 4
Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern
Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both
sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.

Masons are not O.T.O (Ordo Templi Orientis, or Eastern Temple) pawns. The O.T.O as ran by the beast Aleister Crowley says that the O.T.O was
quasi-masonic. Wheher its creator, Wilfred T Smith would have agreed with him is debatable.So, yes, the two are tenuously connected but thats
all.

Just a slight correction: The O.T.O. was founded by Theodore Reuss, not Wifred T. Smith. Smith once served as the North American Grand Master of
O.T.O. as well as Lodge Master of Agape Lodge in California, but was expelled by Aleister Crowley, who was international Grand Master.

Reuss' primary purpose in creating the O.T.O. was to gather together some of the ideas of defunct Masonic Rites and Co-Masonry, along with various
branches of Theosophy, Yoga, etc. The O.T.O., at least outwardly, was based on Freemasonry, but Freemasonry it was not. Most of its original members
were Co-Masons, and were not recognized by the regular Masonic Grand Lodges.

Masons are not O.T.O (Ordo Templi Orientis, or Eastern Temple) pawns. The O.T.O as ran by the beast Aleister Crowley says that the O.T.O was
quasi-masonic. Wheher its creator, Wilfred T Smith would have agreed with him is debatable.So, yes, the two are tenuously connected but thats
all.

Just a slight correction: The O.T.O. was founded by Theodore Reuss, not Wifred T. Smith. Smith once served as the North American Grand Master of
O.T.O. as well as Lodge Master of Agape Lodge in California, but was expelled by Aleister Crowley, who was international Grand Master.

Reuss' primary purpose in creating the O.T.O. was to gather together some of the ideas of defunct Masonic Rites and Co-Masonry, along with various
branches of Theosophy, Yoga, etc. The O.T.O., at least outwardly, was based on Freemasonry, but Freemasonry it was not. Most of its original members
were Co-Masons, and were not recognized by the regular Masonic Grand Lodges.

Thank you for that. When you're wrong you're wrong! Thats why they put erasers on the end of pencils... However I don't think my slight faux pas
detracts from what I was trying to say.
I just find it amazing how many occultists have emerged from the freemasons! And before you jump all over me I'm not saying freemasons are all
luciferians or satanists but I am saying the cult creates more than it's fair share.

I am very suspicious of the freemasons, and those who would want to be a freemason, but the image you've posted here is utter garbage. Just a
collection of words written on a pyramid, no founding in reality and very little substance or proof to back any of it up.
If we are ever to understand whats going on within the cult those of us who are suspicious of them should thank those members willing to talk for
sharing their ideals and thoughts with us. Swapping insults doesn't help!

I am very suspicious of the freemasons, and those who would want to be a freemason, but the image you've posted here is utter garbage. Just a
collection of words written on a pyramid, no founding in reality and very little substance or proof to back any of it up.
If we are ever to understand whats going on within the cult those of us who are suspicious of them should thank those members willing to talk for
sharing their ideals and thoughts with us. Swapping insults doesn't help!

Why because its fritz? look what they have done to him for leaking this info as for backing have you look at the john Todd info and also what they
have done to him... As for there help there pawn masons that are clueless there not held to any type of moral bond there told to lie if asked,
Bill Cooper was last person to really come out about them after years of filtering thru the dis-info fed to him and they killed him... Now were
locked into a virtual police state and the vice and tighing were running out of time.

"Why becouse its the fritz? look what they have done to him for leaking this info as for backing have you look at the john Todd info and also what
they have done to him... As for there help there pawn masons that are clueless there not held to any type of moral bond there told to lie if asked...
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We agree on something. The lower tiers of freemasonry do not know what the upper ones are up to. You're right. So to continually accuse the masons
who post on the thread of being satanists and being damned is a pointless and fruitless occupation. My view is this- I don't judge anyone, all I ask
in return is you dont judge me! They can all be card carrying nazi's as far as I'm concerned I just want to hear what they have to say. And they're
not going to open up if every other post accuses them of devil worshipping.
I think you have a closed mind. You've not interested in hearing anyone elses theories just spreading your own. Sad!

Not theories there fact, until people wake up and weed this waste from society were always going to have wars and distrusion, to be fair after
going thru there data go over mine. And i have a very open mind one of the reasons I was asked to join the freemasons in the 80,s

Originally posted by urza2k4
Not theories there fact, until people wake up and weed this waste from society were always going to have wars and distrusion, to be fair after
going thru there data go over mine. And i have a very open mind one of the reasons I was asked to join the freemasons in the 80,s

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Fair enough, I will but I doubt it will help any. There's so much nonsense written on both sides of the argument that the only ones who really know
whats going on are the Illiminated ones. . . and they're not talking. So the only way to get a glimpse into the workings of the cult is to converse
with the ordinary everyday mason. Don't you agree ?

Originally posted by urza2k4
Again there told to lie so nothing is of use to me, but go ahead I only care for there souls... Ill back off

Do you have cast iron evidence that they are told to lie? I'm not talking about the penny dreadful stuff like having your tongue ripped out etc.
Proof that they're actually told in plain English to openly lie?

"Chiping"? I assume the word you were looking for was 'chipping'. It's also quite evident you didn't even bother to familiarise yourself with
the actual program and instead elected to go off half-cocked. Unfortunately for you, ChIP is short-form for CHild Identification Program. Alas and
alack for your little boogie man suggestion, even a cursory glance at the page you linked to would have shown you that it isn't even slightly ominous
and certainly doesn't have any connection with RFIDs which is the subtext of your "chiping" suggestion.

Obviously, this ridiculous notion has been a hobby horse of yours for a while as the page you linked to is clearly pushing 3 years out-of-date. It's
been redirecting here since January 1, 2006 .

"Chiping"? I assume the word you were looking for was 'chipping'. It's also quite evident you didn't even bother to familiarise yourself with
the actual program and instead elected to go off half-cocked. Unfortunately for you, ChIP is short-form for CHild Identification Program. Alas and
alack for your little boogie man suggestion, even a cursory glance at the page you linked to would have shown you that it isn't even slightly ominous
and certainly doesn't have any connection with RFIDs which is the subtext of your "chiping" suggestion.

Obviously, this ridiculous notion has been a hobby horse of yours for a while as the page you linked to is clearly pushing 3 years out-of-date. It's
been redirecting here since January 1, 2006 .

Nice timely boogie man, urza2k4.

And stone masons should be working with children why? hmmm why not look at the oveiose as you did my English...

Originally posted by urza2k4
Again there told to lie so nothing is of use to me, but go ahead I only care for there souls... Ill back off

Do you have cast iron evidence that they are told to lie? I'm not talking about the penny dreadful stuff like having your tongue ripped out etc.
Proof that they're actually told in plain English to openly lie?

Evidence? He doanne need no steenking evidence.

The simple act of contradicting him is evidence to his fevered brow that Masons lie. If the quality of his grammar is indicative of the quality of his
'evidence', then that's all the answer I need.

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