“I went to bed. I don’t like to watch the political discourse; I never have,” she said. “I barely did with him, referring to her husband, President Barack Obama.

The third wall is slowly starting to unravel as the Obamas’ White House tenure comes to an end and they become more comfortable speaking frankly on topics ranging from politics to race.

But, it was Michelle Obama’s bold assertion of her message while campaigning for Hillary Clinton that truly set the tone for the interview.

Obama used most of the summer to stump for Clinton, even clinching a historic moment at the Democratic National Convention in July. During her formal endorsement speech, Obama’s phrase, “When they go low, we go high“ ramped up momentum for the frequently lambasted Democratic candidate and also strengthened the general public’s opinion of her.

But just as the First Lady campaigned thoroughly for Clinton, she used her platform on multiple occasions to criticize Donald Trump––never actually mentioning his name.

“Anything that I felt about the election I said and I stand by. This is our democracy, and this is how it works,” she said. “We are ready to work with the next administration and make sure they are as successful as they can be. Because that’s what’s best for this country.”