Saturday, 19 December 2015

For Droppers

Hi people!
Shobhna here. And here goes the article for droppers which I
promised.

I'll tell this
straight from the beginning for all those who have taken a drop.
DON'T let go in the middle. Hold on till the end. There were plenty
of people who gave up in the middle, and got ranks worse than the
previous year.

Well, droppers
have a few advantages over the others:

1. No Boards, so
you have the whole of March to study.

2. You have given
JEE once, you have more experience of the environment, the stress.
Try to curb the stress.

(These were meant
for motivating droppers, 12thies also have loads of advantages over
droppers, so don't make an issue out of this, 12thies :P)

Now a little bit
about the preparation:

Your course
should ideally get over by January/early February so that you have
enough time to practise. By course getting over, I mean becoming
confident enough in ALL the chapters. After your course gets over,
try giving a test every single day, preferably in the exam timings.
Do revision packages along with giving tests. Revise every chapter
periodically, so that it remains in your mind, as if you've just done
it. Never get out of touch with a chapter. Ideally, I would recommend
revising Inorganic daily. I used to revise Inorganic by picking up a
chapter, writing down whatever comes in my mind about that topic, and
later tallying it with my notes to see what I had left. (This helps
people with weak memories like me.)

Some logistics
now:

It's really very
easy to get demotivated during the drop year. Stay away from
demotivators.

The same people
telling you repeatedly that taking a drop is a huge risk, will come
and tell you that you made a wise decision after you clear JEE with
flying colours!

Have something
that motivates you even when you feel you're in the biggest trench of
your life. Keep in touch with your parents, and with the teachers and
friends who motivate you the most. Coz JEE is not just about PCM,
it's also about how well you are able to handle your emotions and
stress!

Your last year's
rank doesn't matter, what matters is your performance this year!
Nobody is going to ask you why you dropped a year in the long run! In
fact, people at iits are so chill, they don't give a damn to whether
you have dropped a year after 12th or not!

146 comments:

Good post!!! Didi can you tell which book you referred when you started your prepration after 10 th for jee and how was your time table (priority) . And did you cleared your concept in fiitjee and did only practise at home???

Thanks!I made a lot of mistakes during +2, that's why I had to take a drop! Do you want to know the mistakes?Well, I wasted a lot of time in going to school. So, not enough time for preparation. The BIGGEST mistake.Another mistake: Didn't study chemistry very well.No, sometimes I could not understand a concept very well, got it cleared either from teachers after class, or from friends. I didn't practise much: another BIG mistake!If you want a set of books I would finally recommend, that would be different from what I myself did in +2. So, decide what exactly you want!

Please And Again please Try to Answer honestly as far as possibleCan one get 250+ in mains in 3.2 Months Using Videos + Fiitjee Material Or Suggest u want Please answer A boy starting from Scratch but is familiar with +1&+2 syllabus and hadn't practiced any numerical.& By again Starting from TheoryWhat should be my plan and books u used Please write.

It hardly matters here if it is written as iit or IIT These bloggers are so friendly .. If they start being formal they wont be replying to dumb questions where most of them have grammatical errors :-)

Not being able to solve a problem in class doesn't matter. If you are not able to solve a problem, go home and solve more problems, taking that as an inspiration. Make that your driving force, believe in yourself, and keep practising. What ultimately matters is how much you score in the exam, not how much you answer in class!

Start with revision packages as early as possible. At least one test should be given daily, two would be optimum.In easy papers, score varied from 60 to 80-90%, in tough papers, it was in the ange of 30-40%, as far as I remember.

Please clarify (for) me whether- "...In easy papers, score varied from 60 to 80-90%, in tough papers, it was in the ange of 30-40%..."

Q.1) That data is somewhere when you started (mid Jan 15), right?

Q.2) What exactly, should my goal be (after following your advice), of giving 1-2 papers daily? Exam temperament, maybe? But isn't that a bit too much? Plus 2 papers (6 hours) would imply I would hardly be able to do anything else on that day, taking 7 hours for paper itself (an hour break in mid), 2 hours to search all the answers and analysing both the papers, We can assume that I invest 9-10 hours daily in this exercise, I just want to make sure that they are well invested.

You're welcome!1. It was after course completion.2. You won't be able to do much on the day you do 2 papers, that's true, but with the leftover time on that day, you could revise some inorganic. Hence, two papers should be attempted only when you have a day entirely free.Else, attempt one paper daily at least. That'll be done in 4 hours, and you have rest of the time for revision!

There should be a post on 'Mentality'. Aman should write that. There hasn't been any post on this, which is such a important topic. Hope you understand the importance of the words 'mentality', 'mindset', 'state of mind' during one's preparation for IIT-JEE. Most of the students don't have right mindset, hence they fail.

I had a score of 243 in main 2015 but only 194 in adv, also a lot of guys from my coaching who scored between 245 to 255 in main scored 285+ in adv (one of them actually had 252and295 just like yours). Why do you think that happened(243->194), what could i have done wrong?

Your mistake was that you didn't learn from the mistakes that you made in JEE Main. I remember committing 2 silly mistakes in JEE Main - 1.) reading plano convex as biconvex and losing 5 marks2.) confusing between total energy and energy given out in a thermodynamics problem

I thoroughly fixed those mistakes in my mind and guess what? My friend committed similar mistakes in JEE advanced, while I managed to get those problems correct

Nice post shobhna di, i want to ask you that how could you keep yourself motivated and focused during the drop year.the fear of failure doesn't let me perform my best.i am dropper nd i have opted for self study as i had already taken coaching during 11th 12th .that time there were so many students around me so i had d urge to perform better than them and i would perform to the best of my ability.now it is not happening so.der r so many distracting elements if u study at home.how to make myself determined and focused like u to clear jee?

Keep in mind: You have a goal to achieve, a dream to fulfill.Keep in regular touch with your mentors who motivate you and stay away from demotivators; coz it's really easy to get demotivated in your drop year.Keep away from distractions as well, knowing that doing this will help you achieve something in the long run!

Hi people I am moukthik susarla I am in class 9. Right now I live in Chennai I wanna prepare for iitjee I go to smart in Chennai kk ANAND sirs smart.I have wasted this year for my IIT preparation but I did well in my school I got 85/90 and 88/90 in science and maths respectively but I didn't do anything for jee at least from now I wanna start preparing pls tell me how to prepare pls guide me

Which coaching should I join while living here in Delhi. I know it's a stupid question but Please reply responsibly :-p . I am going to drop for JEE Advanced 2017 as I know I have not done enough preparations for JEE Advanced 2016 because of boards and will try everything I could to be in IIT Delhi for sure in 2017 :-) .

None of us are from Delhi or have a related background, but what I strongly suggest is you not give up and try hard. If you have been fine with your 11-12 curriculum, there's still a lot of hope. JEEM should nt be a great issue of concern, and since you're so keen on IIT, you can directly focus on Advanced.ALso, I'd suggest you not stay so emotionally attached to joining a particular location(reference to Delhi) so early on. It might lead to a branch compromise, which (believe me when I say it) would be far worse. Stay liberal and rather focus on your interests. Try hard and you might make it! It's worthless planning to drop a year even before attempting the current paper. Note that everything Shobhna mentioned was including the fact that you have experienced the exam once and have mistakes to rectify.

Di did u take coaching in ur drop year?if so ,from where?also did it benefit u?if it did then how? i mean after 2 years u already must be having enough experience of how to study and which book to follow

Yes, I did. From a local coaching Institute.It does benefit:1. Helps keep up the momentum, which is very essential in the drop year, as droppers can get demotivated easily.2. It helps maintain the pace of your studies.3. You get to learn new stuff, which you hadn't learnt earlier.

Thanks for reply:).if u did go to coaching than how did u get the time to COMPLETE(emphasis on complete),all d books that aman mentioned here like arihant maths series,iridov,lg wade,op tandon physical chem+ur coaching packages?

Also as mentioned above this will be my strategy in drop year.Coaching or not coaching is still not decided.1)Maths-completing arihant mathematics series(5 books)+arihant previous years papers+coaching modules(narayana?)2)chem-lg wade(organic)+op tandon (physical)+ncert (inorganic)+arihant previous years papers+coaching modules(if possible)3)physics-hc verma+arihant series by dc pandey+iridov+arihaant previous years papers+coaching material(if possible)4)joining test series by reputed institute while (or after) completing(emphasis on completing) the said books.So how does it look??mention any flaws u notice. I'm counting on u guys(iitian authors and other members, users of the blog)Ps considering the above plan is it still necessary to go to coaching??)

Well, coaching or no coaching entirely depends on you.My point is- It's very easy to get demotivated during the drop year, and a coaching gives the little 'pushes' that are sometimes required.But, you know yourself best. So, it's entirely upto you to decide.

Coaching material is generally a superset of all good books :p you can go for either.. You'll save time by going for coaching modules. Books are an equally good option though as you will get even those questions which coaching people don't deem helpful, but which are actually pretty awesome.- blog co-author

Di ,this might be a bit personal but,did u get a seat in good college(nit etc) except/or an iit in ur first jee attempt?could u share ur jee mains score in ur first attempt(if u dont mind).i just want to know how much of a difference a person can make in his/her score in one drop year.(i know this will vary from person to person,but still).Ps:if u dont wanna answer,then u dont have to!(or u can reply "no comments")

JEE Main score in first attempt-204, AIR 3k around, so you can guess that I might have got in thr good nits. :) In second attempt- score-252, AIR 600 around, primarily because I was out of touch with chapters like semiconductors n stuff which are not in the syllabus of JEE Advanced. :(

Seems like u were already good from the start! :) do u have any advice for someone who scores <= 150?acc to u should that someone even try for a second attempt.(even if he is very motivated and is willing to sacrifice anything to get a seat in iit)Ps:that someone is me,and i'll be taking the second attempt even if the reply is demoralising.AND as always thank u for ur support,y'all r doing wonderful job of helping those in need

No, I wasn't. Well, I've seen people increasing their score by more than a hundred in JEE Main! Believe me, if you stick to it, you'll get a seat easily!P.S. I would recommend you to study for Advanced as well. One of my friends who had got a bad score in JEE Main in his first attempt is now at IIT-KGP!

Hello, I'm also a dropper and did not qualify for advanced in 2015. Now this year I'm confident. I'm getting about 300/360 in mock tests mains. My math is weak so in advanced its a great problem. Physics is my strongest subject. I can't remember inorganic, qualitative analysis... So what should be my study plans!?

Di m a dropper,my board marks was 79.40 .m from obc categary.my English was not so good.m ask u that for top 3 not with cs brach how much marks and ranking I obtain.n in Feb well I start my revision but give some tips for revising with coaching.

can u suggest some source from where I can study complex numbers..its turning out a difficult topic though I hav tried to understand it quite many times.but still I'm unable to solve questions related to it.

hey shobhna, could you write about how you prepared after jee main was over.i am already giving 2 papers everyday and doing some chapter wise revision afterwards, so if you could add something it would be really helpful.

i need your help.PLEASE REPLYi am 12th appeared(isc) and was confined to my school books.now I will DROP one year and have taken admission in fiitjee kanpur,got 65% waiver.I want to secure AIR around 1000 to get into IITKANPUR mech.eng..AND CANT COMPROMISE from this.i am ready to do all eforts and hard works as much i can.please tell whether fiitjee study materials are sufficient or need to buy some books then which books to buy??i have purchasedHC VERMA 1,2op tandon physical chemjd lee in organicsolomons and frh.. organicplease reply and all your suggestions are welcome

Sir myself hidharth from assam.i apeared for jee main 2016 and got a score of 106.so due to my poor marks i am deciding for a partial drop by joining a colledge.i didnt opted for full drop because i think i am weak of my mind.sir honsly speaking past 2 yrs i studiwd hard but now i realised that iit preparation not only ends in hardwork but many more which u know.so sir please give me some suggestions for my preparation strategy for jee and how i can manage my studies at colledge and for jee..sorry sir for my long question ...will be happy if u reply soon

Sir myself hidharth from assam.i apeared for jee main 2016 and got a score of 106.so due to my poor marks i am deciding for a partial drop by joining a colledge.i didnt opted for full drop because i think i am weak of my mind.sir honsly speaking past 2 yrs i studiwd hard but now i realised that iit preparation not only ends in hardwork but many more which u know.so sir please give me some suggestions for my preparation strategy for jee and how i can manage my studies at colledge and for jee..sorry sir for my long question ...will be happy if u reply soon

Hi, I am dropping a year after getting 120 in mains and 100 in advance, in my first attempt I did have VMC(regular),resonance(dlp) and allen(dlp) but due to bad time management I only did maths from these packages. Now after getting devastating results even with decent amount of hard work. Is it possible to get 280 in mains and rank under 500 in advance. I am a hard worker but certainly don't plan things that much and that made me a failure for first attempt. Please reply.

^lol! I liked your comment. @Saurabh, I really think you people should read the post before asking such generic questions. She answered precisely YOUR problem in this post. Can you please explain what else you want to hear?

hello di,i m dropping for jee 2017 plz tel should i go with resonance material or even solve some books within time.also should i go with my coaching or do my preparations just use coa. for assistance.also is it good to solve a chapter from all sources at once or from one at a time and another afterwards.

hello di,i m dropping for jee 2017 plz tel should i go with resonance material or even solve some books within time.also should i go with my coaching or do my preparations just use coa. for assistance.also is it good to solve a chapter from all sources at once or from one at a time and another afterwards.

Hi didi, Thank you very much for this wonderful post. It is very very helpful.I am dropping a year for JEE 2017. In 2016 I got a rank of 14k. And nearly 50-55% of the marks came from Physics.I did not take any coaching in classes 11-12.I am from Kolkata. And the main coaching institutes present here are FIITJEE, Aakash and a local one. But FIITJEE Kolkata has got very poor reviews. People say Aakash is the best in Kolkata. So, I took admission here.But here 95% of the students did not even crack JEE Mains. Only one student apart from me, cracked JEE Advanced. That too with a rank much behind that of mine... They get doubts in even the the very basic level simple problems.The Physics teacher has started from scratch... right from distance-displacement, average and instantaneous velocity etc. So is the case with Chemistry. They make us write stupid notes which are very basic kind of stuff. The classes are hence pretty boring. This may not actually be the teachers' fault though. When I spoke to the Physics teacher, the other day, his reply was that he has to cater to the needs of all the students and hence the pace and manner of teaching. The students are very determined, apparently. But as of now, it is a very drab and noncompetitive atmosphere. And I am getting a feel that I don't belong to here. The classes are, to me, utter waste of time... FIITJEE Kolkata, I hear, is still more pathetic.I have made a self routine of my own. This course has a lot of tests which is good. Apart from that, everything is very depressing. The risk that I am taking, coupled with all these, makes me kind of sad, at times. The classroom extends for 5 hours, by the way, for 5 days a week. And the maths class is slow-paced, but is kind of good. I am determined, I'll get a very good rank next year. I have made a self routine of my own. Please suggest how I should move ahead. Should I attend classes regularly? What, according to you, should be the exact strategy?

I am Aman Singh I gave JEE 2016 and got devastating result .it was all due to lack of time management and poor revision strategy.I really need help as I am dropping for jee 2017 please can u answer my following questions.i posted them in your blog but never got reply.I have joined a local coa. In Varanasi.1. What should be my correct revision strategy?2. Is it good to go along with coaching complete the course beforehand ?3. I follow books like hcv, dc pandey ,fiitjee rsm,and irodov should I solve each chapter from all sources at once r few now and other later?if second then plz tel the order.4. I have read in arpit agarwal's book that revision must be ongoing than how should I plan this revision and from where and what to do in,it?5.my math's is not good I picked up tmh I cannot solve many questions on my own and I see solution then how should I plan so that I become confident in math's also what would be correct strategy of regular revision means how to use these sources- tmh ,coa module and fiitjee rsm.6.how should I plan my studies and what are some effective studying and revision strategy ? plz help I really need proper guidance coz I have already suffered a lot now I wish to do everything right .so please reply I really need your help.

Hello di, Some queries,Are the revision packages enough to cover up all the minute details, during last few months of prep..I am an average student , dropping for this year, and I found it very much difficult to review everything for 2016...This year's paper had few topics which were not covered well in the revision packages, due to which I had to suffer...So if u could come with any idea to deal with this...And, lastly thanks for bearing for such a long post...

Hi di. ...I need ur help badly...plzzz help.....in the first attempt I secured 92 marks in jee mains ( i didn't took any iit coaching in 11 and 12). Now I m dropping from fiitjee south Delhi....do u think I will be able to score 250+ this year??? Are fiitjee packages + hcv + pbahadur + rd objective enough for that????? I m depressed ....plzzz help as soon as possible

Hi ! I passed out +2 in 2015 . But wasn't serious for JEE . Then , I decided to take a drop but in the last few months I got demotivated and screwed my JEE main . I want to give it a try again . Since , this is my last time and I am not eligible for JEE advanced , I want to perform good in main so that I could get admssion in IIIT Hyderabad or Allahabad . I go to college from 8 to 4 . How do I prepare for JEE main as to get a rank below 500 at home wihout any DLP or coaching classes ?

Hi ! I passed out +2 in 2015 . But wasn't serious for JEE . Then , I decided to take a drop but in the last few months I got demotivated and screwed my JEE main . I want to give it a try again . Since , this is my last time and I am not eligible for JEE advanced , I want to perform good in main so that I could get admssion in IIIT Hyderabad or Allahabad . I go to college from 8 to 4 . How do I prepare for JEE main as to get a rank below 500 at home wihout any DLP or coaching classes ?

Hi everyone I am a 12th standard student from delhi.I battled deppression and anxiety disorder in 11th and am now successfully out of it, although the fear of a relapse does exist. Since it is too late for me to realistically expect an under 100 score in JEE ADV. 2017, I have been mentally preparing myself to take the drop.I know for sure that I want my life back on track and even though my parents are forcing me to write the Jee this year and I may not do well, I will be superbly motivated for my next attempt.Given here is the list of books I plan to use for my preparation.Although they may not seem like a lot I plan to study and solve each question in those books atleast 4 times with max. thoroughness. Please suggest some addnl. books which would help :MATHS :rd sharma of 11th and both of 12thTMHModules of Vidyamandir/FIITJEE/Resonance/Narayana : Please suggest the bestCHEM :NCERT 11TH AND 12THModules of FIITJEE AND VMC PHYSICS :hc verma all partsCENGAGE

Shobha di...I really really really need someone's help. I am a dropper. I got 91 (I know that's pathetic) last year in mains. I know my preparation was enough for 200 marks at least but I got nervous and completely blank during the paper. I attempted only 30 questions. Now as jee mains is approaching I am getting nervous again that I'd get blank and ruin the paper again! Please help! ��

Hi shobna, I got 73% in my first attempt pf 12th board so i decided to repeat. And now when i completed my 12th again i am feeling unable to qualify in jee exams this time.So what should i do nowDrop a year and prepare for jee from any institutionDrop a year and prepare using dlp materialOr should i join any private engineering college Please answer. ..........

I have totally wasted my two years of jee preparation due to my procrastination habit but now i reliased my mistake and decided to dedicate myself fully on study. I will apply for improvement examination. Now i have following two casesCase1. i should concentrate only on board exams and make 95+ % to join D.U. case2.focus on board just to get 75+ % and more focus to crack jeePlz suggest me di...I have noone to guide me.

I have totally wasted my two years of jee preparation due to my procrastination habit but now i reliased my mistake and decided to dedicate myself fully on study. I will apply for improvement examination. Now i have following two casesCase1. i should concentrate only on board exams and make 95+ % to join D.U. case2.focus on board just to get 75+ % and more focus to crack jeePlz suggest me di...I have noone to guide me.

I got 132 in Main 2017. Do you think I should drop a year in Kota? Also, I screwed up my Physics paper in my Boards, and I really want to appear for the improvement exam, do you suggest I do that?Thank you for the wonderful post Di, very inspiring! :)

Hi Didi my score in jee main 2017 is 160 and advanced score 120 I made many silly mistakes though the paper was easy .as a result I feel very low to take drop but I want study in iit how can I increase my confidencePls help

I have screwed up my jee main this year 2018.On entering the examination hall I got a lot more tensed and couldn't even imagine to myself how I screwed up the examination where in the mock tests I used to score an average of 240-280/360.But now I am getting nearly a score of 47/360 which is not sufficient to get even qualified for jee advanced.Should I drop this year and prepare seriously for jee 2019 or just leave it.Anyone please guide me.Now I am totally confused.

I have screwed up my jee main this year 2018.On entering the examination hall I got a lot more tensed and couldn't even imagine to myself how I screwed up the examination where in the mock tests I used to score an average of 240-280/360.But now I am getting nearly a score of 47/360 which is not sufficient to get even qualified for jee advanced.Should I drop this year and prepare seriously for jee 2019 or just leave it.Anyone please guide me.Now I am totally confused.

I'd say that if it is indeed the case that you were doing quite well in your coaching, but due to exam pressure, your performance went down, then you should definitely consider taking a drop. 47/360 is definitely not going to land you anywhere.

I screwed up my all entrance examinations 2018,so I decided to drop this year, still the past experience haunts me a lot, depression causing me sleep a lot ,how can I be motivated always?, I wasted these months too and now only 4 months to goCan I crack atleast mains with 200+ score with rigorous study now onwards...pls reply?