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The best way to express your disgust with the NRA is to write retailers with a donate to the NRA option and ask them to suspend it. Calling just gets you Ackerman McQueen, who LOVE how the NRA is going since Wayne LaPierre keeps them well paid (and they pay him in return, which is why the board tried to fire his ass in 1997).

Maybe you should actually read Chris Cox statement. I dare you to actually inform yourselves with the truth. Since the author left out the actual statement from Chris Cox and it appears that you were too lazy to research and read it before trashing the NRA with your tired and misinformed worn out rhetoric, here it is.

School Safety Report
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 18, 2018
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FAIRFAX, Va.– Chris W. Cox, executive director of the National Rifle Association Institute for Legislative Action, released the following statement on Tuesday:

“The National Rifle Association applauds the Trump administration’s Federal Commission on School Safety’s final report, issued today. The report includes a number of recommendations for which the NRA has been advocating for years, including reforming our mental health laws, strengthening school security, and addressing an increasingly violent culture. It also calls on the media to stop reporting the names and photos of mass murderers, which only encourages copycat behavior.

“Importantly, the commission expressly rejected age limitations on firearm purchases, which as the report explains in detail, have no real impact on crime. Finally, we appreciate President Trump’s support for keeping firearms out of the hands of those who have been adjudicated by a court to be a danger to themselves or others in the form of state Extreme Risk Protection Orders — provided they include strong due process protections, require mental health treatment, and include penalties against those who file frivolous charges to harass law-abiding citizens. The recommendations in the commission report will go a long way towards preventing violence and making children safer in our schools.”

Established in 1871, the National Rifle Association is America’s oldest civil rights and sportsmen’s group. More than five million members strong, NRA continues to uphold the Second Amendment and advocates enforcement of existing laws against violent offenders to reduce crime. The Association remains the nation’s leader in firearm education and training for law-abiding gun owners, law enforcement and the armed services. Be sure to follow the NRA on Facebook at NRA on Facebook and Twitter @NRA.

Chris Cox has already stated his idea of “due process” is needing the cops (you know, like the ones in Broward county) to take the request to a judge a judge (most of whom don’t read the warrants they are given to sign already) and being able to fight in a court because he’s a multi-millionare paid to do the exact opposite of his job and doesn’t understand normal people have to WORK FOR A LIVING and the lawyers aren’t cheap.

That’s not “due process” at all. That’s a man who has grown so rich off funds he, along with LaPierre, have embezzled from the NRA that he has lost all sense of how normal people live.

The problem is that these order do no provide due process. They authorize men with guns to kick down your door and confiscate your guns. Then it’s up to you–the craaaaazy wacko that even your OWN family/lover/ex-intimate-partner/casual hook-up/friend with benefits says shouldn’t have guns–to go prove your innocence on your own time and at your own expense for howsoever many months before you *maybe* get them back.

I say maybe because even after completely uncontroversial defensive gun uses when the police are supposed to return your firearm as required by law, they regularly do not. Then it’s up to you to obtain a court order compelling them to do so, only to find that they have “misplaced the evidence.”

None of that is due process. That’s a grotesque farce of idiocy, bigotry, personal vendettas, and bureaucratic sclerosis masquerading as due process. If you cannot see that basic set of facts, which has already played out repeatedly and been reported here and many other places, then there’s no hope for you.

The laws I’ve seen don’t authorize police to enter and search the subject’s home for guns, it just orders him to turn them over. If they have cause to believe he’s holding out on them, then they can get a warrant to search.

I don’t expect that state of affairs to last. You’re going to have cases where unstable people held guns back and used them for evil, and the temptation to the police of having a tool to search without even alleging suspicion of a crime will prove too seductive to resist.

I just think it’s hilarious that all the NRA-worshippers are so myopic as to not realize there are other, better organizations out there that actually put their money where their mouth is. Instead of spending a crap-ton of funds on marketing, carry insurance, jelly of the month club, etc, the GOA, SAF, etc. go straight for the throat (suits in court).

Keep throwing your money away if it makes you feel good, but you’re supporting a lobby group who regularly crosses the aisle to make deals (see: compromises) with the anti-gun lobby to come to agreements that they feel make them both look good to their supporters while increasing their own coffers.

Don’t believe me? I don’t care if you do or not, really. Selective ignorance cannot be cured.

Where was 60 yr old Gary Willis’ due process when law enforcement murdered him in his own home while unconstitutionally confiscating his firearms.
No evidence, no charges just the word of a pissed off vendictive family member.
These tyrants and usurpers all need hanged by their criminal necks!!!

The key to understanding the second amendment is the qualifying preface at the beginning of the second amendment. This qualifying preface shows that everything that follows relates directly to the militia.

“A well regulated Militia,” shows that the framers of the amendment required regulation of arms.

Absolutely, 100% wrong. Look again, and see if you can find “for so long as”, “unless”, “until such time”, or anything else which would be “qualifying”. There is nothing, the second phrase “the right of the people to keep and beat arms shall not be infringed” stands completely alone, and you learned that in the eighth grade, you’re just pretending it’s different now because some lying piece of shit told you that’s the way it SHOULD be.

More like YOUR just a “Liberal/Globalist Troll ” trying to start a Flame War on a [email protected] sites comment board…But I see YOUR 1st Amendment right NEEDS some “Regulation”….
Since, of course during that time period/era, there were NO such things as the internet, text msg., e-mail, comments boards, social media platforms, etc…And OUR founding fathers could NOT possibly see this type of advancement going beyond the use of the printing press, the leaflet, the town cryer, the written word through quill, ink, and parchment…Especially, in which a political group hostile to the notions of Liberty and Freedom could construct agitprop and propaganda…Instead of just report information….But could direct and manipulate it..Directing public opinion to a negative outcome instead of unbiased reporting…Giving it a “spin-doctoring” in order to reason away a right or liberty as if it were something that should be “regulated” by a large governmental body…Which of course was never the intent…Since the only thing at that time period which was “well regulated…” Was something that was “working with precision, or properly working order…”

Why do you believe that anyone who has their opinion that differs from yours is a troll? Please consider the possibility that I am American citizen who has an opinion at odds with yours but has a First Amendment right to express it. And here is the True definition of militia in United States code.

“The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.”

So any human being who comes to America and request asylum to become a citizen has the right to keep and bear arms just like any regular citizen of the United States.

Hey Minor – millions of ex-military and ex-law enforcement disagree with you KommieKrats. Do you really really want to push us to the point of having to prove to you idiots how wrong you are? That’s why we have the 2nd Amendment cuz of people like you. If not for the 2nd you wouldn’t be able to spew the Bullshiyit you spout. I’ll just take your 1st Amendment rights by taking your computer tablet or cell phone and give you a quill ink and all. How would you like that eh cupcake? BTW we can do a civil war eh you maggots always talk about a revolution but never go for it but we can just let us know eh pumpkin Signed a retired career military combat vet of 3 wars🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

The 2nd amendment doesn’t grant anything. It simply forbids any infringement on preexisting right of the people to own and carry arms. It also doesn’t specify which arms, meaning that it protects any and all of them.

It’s the militia that needs to be well regulated (in proper working order), not the arms. Learn to read, 49er.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

AARON M. WALKER nailed it & no compensation will be given !! Turn in your property in 90 days , hand it over to authorities , or you are a felon. Making law abiding citizens , in to criminals , over a piece of plastic , a $500. + piece of plastic at that !!

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice-President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

I joined GOA a couple of years ago and contribute monthly, but I still joined the NRA as a life member last month. Discounted through a link at ammoland however. I won’t contribute to the NRA or NRA-ILA. I joined simply to vote on board members.

I’m a life member of the NRA, a life member of the SAF, and I just joined GOA. I also doubt I’d have joined or upgraded my membership in the NRA in these circumstances. “Gun confiscation if the right boxes are ticked” doesn’t fit with “shall not be infringed.”

I don’t understand the NRA at all. What’s their end-game? I get that they want people to pay membership fees, but they refuse to do anything members want so… how do they expect to keep this up for long? I’m no business expert but this doesn’t seem sustainable.
And why do manufactures support the NRA? What do they have to gain by supporting the very people trying to take down their industry? Do they support the GoA at all? Every firearm I buy has a “Support the NRA” brochure but I never saw one for the GoA.

The NRA used to be a very different kind of organization. It’s changed. It’s changed so much that Outside Magazine issued an editorial earlier this year to its readership stating that hunters need to leave the NRA due to how the NRA’s political influence is being used.

I’ve been observing for a while how the NRA’s propaganda machine has, over the last few years, released material that is eerily similar to stuff being put out on RT, the Russian propaganda YouTube channel. The NRA had a huge chunk of unexplained cash that it spent in the 2016 election, something like 20 or 30 million more dollars than ever before, and Maria Butina/Alexander Torshin had been hanging round since 2011. I always thought it was interesting that the NRA would be taking such an interest in traveling to Russia and cultivating ties with Russia given that Russians do not have gun rights. Seems odd to say the least.

Who knows, but I kind of think that with Butina’s arrest and plea deal and Erickson likely to get called in, we might (might) learn more, and more about where their big money is coming from.

BTW, I saw that you gave me some support on a thread the other day. Thanks for that. I comment here a lot less than I used to because the insults and trolling are just kinda repetitive, LOL.

Nevermind, it just doesn’t like my wall of text. Anyway, let’s keep it interesting. I don’t know what your operator’s rate for tall tales is but seeing how it’s you my fee is double.

Coming up next week on the “Transcredible Exploits of Elaine D’s ‘Operator’ Friends:”

It was predawn and we were coming in low and hot over the generic jungle landscape. Hours earlier the team had assembled at the forward post on the beach head. It was there I learned that slimy bastard Al Dillon would be joining us and as we sat bantering in the red lights of the chopper belly something told me this operation would be different.

Fuck it. This stupid wonky ass comment system and you have won. I’ll no longer darken this digital door with my clicks. TTAG has gone to garbage anyway. Worst of luck to you and your endeavor to lead POTG to their legislative demise. Also, your line of work is only bilking people who don’t know better for some nebulous idea of help.

No, my dear. I don’t ask DZ or anyone else to do anything with anyone’s comments. People can say whatever they like. You know, you can always just choose to bypass my pieces instead of reading them and getting all miffed about it. But, I do like the beginning of your tale…

Coming up next week on the “Transcredible Exploits of Elaine D’s ‘Operator’ Friends:”

It was predawn and we were coming in low and hot over the generic jungle landscape. Hours earlier the team had assembled at the forward post on the beach head. It was there I learned that slimy bastard Al Dillon would be joining us and as we sat bantering in the red lights of the chopper belly something told me this operation would be different.

The mission was simple enough, or so we were lead to believe. Hostage extraction, off the books. A quick in and out, but of course these things never go as planned.

It was a solid crew, I’d worked with all these men before and together we formed a seamless tactical machine. Dutch, Mac, Billy, Blain, Poncho, and Hawkins.

Billy was stoic, the only time I’d ever seen him crack a smile was when Hawkins would lay it on thick with jokes about his wife’s pussy.

Dutch was the quiet type, but the wheels were always turning. The kind of guy to call bullshit if everything was in fact all bullshit.

Blain was the boisterous one. A mountain of testosterone rocking a fat chaw. To turn down a dip would always earn his scorn and derision. In fact, the sonofabitch even spit on Al’s boot.

And that was the day Governor Jesse “the body” Ventura called me a faggot and taught me the secret to becoming a sexual tyrannosaur. (Hint, it involves copious amounts of loose leaf)

@ Elaine
Yea don’t mention it. I’m sorry you have to put up with that rudeness, but I’m glad to hear you’re not letting it get to you. I’ve been ghosting TTAG for a few years now, and perhaps my memory is failing me, but I don’t remember the comment section being quite this toxic. I’m at a loss as to where this hostility is coming from, we all essentially want the same thing here (2A-related anyways).

And thanks for the info. I had no idea the NRA was so heavily involved with Russian political shenanigans (I’ve been knowledge-binging for the past two hours starting from that Outsiders Online link and rabbit-holing from there). I find it amusing that even the Fudds are beginning to hate the NRA.
Meh, truth be told Russia’s involvement with the NRA is nothing compared to everything else they’ve been doing elsewhere in the country and world at large. The logistics of such an operation alone is pretty awe-inspiring.

Silver lining: now Democrats and Republicans can both agree on something, that the NRA sucks (and who said our country was divided?).

Yes, we thought we could count on the patriotism of the NRA leader ship but it seems they sold their soul for a few shekels of silver. Russia has been her into me for 70 years and that’s not likely to change anytime soon. And President Trump’s strange appetite for absolute power and his love of the dictators of the world shows he cares not for democracy.

Godspeed to marine Robert Mueller, a true American hero and patriot in search of truth.

I guess if one wanted to fall down the rabbit hole and go full on conspiracy mole, one could consider the possibility that the KGB is doing exactly what it does well: creating the perception of a culture war that will cause Americans to take up arms against other Americans in the end. That’s kind of how they tend to roll. There are also some who would say that Marx believed in arming the proletariat only until power is taken, at which point arms are stripped away.

Even if one doesn’t go there, though, the NRA is supposed to be an American organization focused on American citizens and American gun rights. Hanging out with power brokers who do not give their citizens gun rights seems quite antithetical to all of this. But what do I know.

I was leaning towards the pushback against your comments and articles being a little over the top, but holy shit – Marina Butina conspiracy theories? Srsly? Are you a Rachel Maddow sock puppet? You must think Mueller is really onto something, too. Stop listening to liars and retards.
BTW, your “operator” is really Brian Williams.

Sweetie, there have been numerous journalistic pieces on the whole Maria Butina thing. She got arrested earlier this year, and pled guilty to acting as an unregistered Russian agent I think last week. Erickson, her partner who hooked her up with the NRA, hasn’t been brought in yet but I think that’s on the way. There are numerous photos of her with NRA bigwigs at events.

And it amuses me that so many people think the person I interviewed is not real. He is quite real, and well known in certain competitive shooting circles; in fact, Smith & Wesson asked him to be on their team at one point. The other side of his life is not something a lot of people know about, which is why I decided to start with him. But he isn’t the only one I have lined up for interviews.

Howdy elaineD, hey I went in for an evaluation the other day and was quite impressed with the way they did things. Better then in 94. I was expecting a bunch of BS. I’m giving that particular Mental Health facility a thumbs up.( I kinda didn’t like the passive aggressive thing though, lol, ) How’d they pick up on that??? Still trying to figure out what question I answered that tipped them off.

☺ . The magazines we brought went between the English book . ( Some pages looked edible, as in by you books and buy you books, all you do is eat the pages) Perhaps that’s a reason for my outstanding gramer and spellin, Har har

“I don’t understand the NRA at all. What’s their end-game?” A hallmark of politics is “Always choose your battles”. In this, the NRA has—literally for decades—been stunningly successful in protecting gun rights.
Something to keep in mind before you right off their failure to go to the mat over issues like this is that the organization is successful because it maintains productive relations with both elected Republicans and Democrats. I think it’s obvious that that these relationships inform the NRA policy positions. That said, I don’t agree at all with the NRA’s position on due process as a way of making red-flag laws fair and equitable. There can be no fairness, no due process, about a law that turns pissed off ex-wives into gate-keepers with the authority to cause someone’s constitutional rights to be violated.

Here is a scenario:
Billy-Bob calls a mental health hot-line telling them he is very depressed.
The operator asks him if he owns firearms.
Billy-Bob answers, “No.”
Then the operator asks if he access to firearms.
Billy-Bob tells her, “Yeah, all my friends and relatives got guns.”
The operator then asks him if he would be able to get a gun from any of them.
He tells her, “Yeah, I prolly could.”
She responds with, “From which ones?”
Billy-Bob says, “I dunno, maybe from all of them except my dad.”
Operator asks Billy-Bob, “Can you please help me by giving me their names and address?”
And he answers, “Well, yeah, I guess so.”
And he proceeds to do so.
The operator then forwards the list to the local sheriff’s department.
They apply for ERPO’s for everyone on the list.
Judge grants all of them.
Jack booted thugs show up at the doors of all of innocent firearm owns and demand that they surrender all their guns to the government.

” Arbitrary and Capricious order!” I wouldn’t open my door…THEY would have to kick it and it would ALL be on video camera 📷! I wouldn’t surrender any of my constitutional rights and I wouldn’t co-operate with an UN-American, and UN-Constitutional order! 🗽

And they will have the only copy of the video recording, after they kill you. Then they will produce a one-sided press release explaining how they eliminated a threat to public safety armed with assault weapons and 3-D printed guns, and how another lunatic-fringe Sovereign Citizen wacko-bird has been eliminated. Everyone in the community will cheer, and comment on how you were such a nice fellow, but ‘quiet,’ ‘kept to himself,’ and ‘something always seemed a bit odd.’
Meantime, in Sioux Falls, a turtle farts.

Being a martyr is a fine and noble profession, but one has to understand right from the first day of work that things are going to end very badly.

That paradigm may be changing though. It seems the climate is changing, and even if you win a suit, you’ve lost a lot in the process. It may be more fruitful to practice your Mozambique than to find an attorney for your speed-dial.

Wasn’t there just an article about some guy getting ERPOd because his nephew was apparently plotting to steal his guns and shoot up a school? You’d think they would’ve at least had the restraint to just inform the guy of the threat seeing as his only crime was attempted victim-of-theft, but they apparently saw fit to just take his stuff anyway. I wonder how long it’ll be until police start getting rubber-stamp judges to sign off on fabricated ERPOs just to get guns off the street…

Many people are going to find out they are fingered under a ERPO at 5 am when the Door is taken down. After 10K in legal expenses and 6 months you might get your damaged scratched guns back. Or not. And you’ll be flagged in NCIS for a while, more costs resolving that problem. Neighbors won’t talk to you because you’re a gun nut and they don’t want to have their guns taken because you know them well. You’ll lose your job because co workers will be afraid of you.

What are the NRA and the Pres thinking? Good question, the answer is certainly not thinking about the legal gun owner. I am not sure how to proceed but I definitely know how not to. No funds to the NRA and no votes in 2020 if the Pres and his henchmen run again. The saviors of the Second Amendment community have had two years to do something positive and the red flag law and bump stock ban is what they came up with. Maybe they switched parties and forgot to tell us.

You can tell the supposed duty to vote is bull because of how shrilly people defend it. Don’t vote can’t complain is a non-sequitur. Choice of two evils isn’t moral whitewash. Voting in an election like that just shows the people who set it up that you’re an extra predictable tool and can be dealt with high-handedly.

How does not-voting repeal the NFA, GCA and FOPA? The same way voting does, the same way yelling at my car fills the gas tank; not at all. Sorry. It would be nice if you could vote up a cure for cancer but you can’t do that either. Someone’s going to blame me, but I’m just the messenger. Not being a tool is it’s own reward, this isn’t kindergarten, there’s no extra gold star coming.

Exactly. Sigh, how have we stagnated so much as a society that people are still naive about voting? New illusion of control due to online echo-chamber circle-jerks maybe. Like, if people had to vote and be quiet or only talk about it in RL it wouldn’t be as much fun, no consequence-free tribalism.

What is a inalienable individual right and what is a privilege?
What does “shall not be infringed” plainly mean?
Does the NRA support the unalienable individual right of the individual to keep and bear arms that shall not be infringed by government or does the NRA support government privileges?

A record of infringements that tyrants and Negotiating Rights Away can be proud of.

Nevermind, it just doesn’t like my wall of text. Anyway, let’s keep it interesting. I don’t know what your operator’s rate for tall tales is but seeing how it’s you my fee is double.

Coming up next week on the “Transcredible Exploits of Elaine D’s ‘Operator’ Friends:”

It was predawn and we were coming in low and hot over the generic jungle landscape. Hours earlier the team had assembled at the forward post on the beach head. It was there I learned that slimy bastard Al Dillon would be joining us and as we sat bantering in the red lights of the chopper belly something told me this operation would be different.

It would seem that these recent actions by the President have served to genuinely reveal the divide, not just in the “gun community” but in the nation as a whole. Ironic how those that seem to treasure their rights so strongly as to slowly relinquish them so as to hang on to what little remains are steadfastly clinging to the NRA as Nero clung to his violin while Rome was ablaze. It is even more unbelievable that those that were once vehemently opposed to such egregious acts as unhindered search and seizures, civil asset forfeitures along with inane prohibitions, are now ebulliently welcoming such infringements by the government. There are very few true liberals around anymore on the left, even fewer on the right that currently comprehend such once sacred principles that accompany individual liberties.

The NRA apologists would give up their eyes to save their nose. They have no appreciation for Patrick Henry’s aphorism “Give me liberty or give me death”. One does not retain their rights by surrendering them, nor do they recover them by relinquishing more. To do so is to surely lose all one’s right inevitably. Not to mention that the second amendment cannot be saved at the expense of the fourth and fifth.

Traditional liberals used to understand that the erosion of any right would serve to erode all others eventually. ERPO’s will not stop at just firearms, got some prescription meds on hand, how about a fancy sports car or a stockpile of cleaning solvents? Such things will serve to provide avenues for unjust search and seizures, necessitate firearms registries (Just as UBC’s would do) and strengthen civil asset forfeiture laws. There are no due process protections that can rectify ERPO, as the intention of such class of law is intended to completely circumvent due process and constitutional protections.

Quite often, firearms owners are their own worst enemies. The duck hunters don’t like the AR-15 “black rifles” so they see no problem if attempts are made to ban them. The traditional rifle owners don’t like machine guns, so they have no problem with them being legislated out of existence. Some pistol owners see nothing wrong with certain long guns being outlawed just as some rifle owners would have no problem seeing pistols banned. You see, anti-gunners want them all. They will chip away a little at a time until their goal of civilian disarmament is complete. They have an excuse for banning every firearm. Scoped bolt-action rifles are defined by anti-gunners as “sniper rifles” because they are “too accurate”. Magazine-fed weapons are suspect because of high (actually normal) magazine capacity. Handguns are suspect because they are “easily concealable”. The gun grabbers want them all and have made (flimsy and suspect) excuses for banning every type of firearm. They don’t care how long it takes. and will use incrementalism to their advantage.
Friends, ALL firearms advocates must “hang together” and realize that an assault on ANY means of firearms ownership and self-defense is an assault on ALL forms of firearms ownership and self-defense.
There is absolutely NO ROOM for complacency among ANY Second Amendment supporters. An attack on one is an attack on ALL…
ALL firearms laws are unconstitutional on their face. Imagine the hue and cry if “reasonable” restrictions were placed on First Amendment activities, especially with the “mainstream media”. The Second Amendment is clear–what part of “shall not be infringed” do politicians and the media not understand…of course, they understand full well…it’s part of their communist agenda…
Even the NRA bears some responsibility for capitulation on matters concerning firearms. The NRA failed when it allowed the National Firearms Act of 1934 to stand without offering opposition, the 1968 Gun Control Act, the NICS “instant check” system, the “no new machine gun for civilians” ban in 1986, the so-called “assault weapons ban in 1994, and other infringements of the Second Amendment. Let’s face it. What better way to increase membership than to “allow” infringements to be enacted and then push for a new membership drive. Yes, the NRA has done good, but its spirit of “compromise” will only lead to one thing…confiscation.
If the NRA is truly the premier “gun rights” organization, it must reject ALL compromise…

The short and not-so-sweet: two teens were planning on shooting someone, and one of them had a relative who owned guns. The authorities caught wind of the plans and used the Red Flag Law to confiscate the relative’s guns. So now if you are related to people who are suspect, you lose your guns.

I hope they get sued out of existence. Even if these kids were a credible threat, unless there was clear evidence that the guy was an accomplice they had no right or reason to do anything beyond knock on his door and advise him of the situation.

The NRA is good for fudd storage. I’m dead serious. That’s not even a dig, fudds are people, they pay taxes, they should have a voice, it’s good there’s a place for them.

It needs to stop being the voice of the whole cause and the broker of our political capitol though. RKBA fundamentalists need to get out. The industry and warm bodies who aren’t too fudded up will follow proportionally. Don’t worry about the money and political capitol left behind. Worst case it’s spilled milk, forget about it. More likely, and I hesitate to say this because all of you magical-thinking flakes still think you’re entitled to a quick, easy win coming, and you’re going to think I’m trying to give it to you or buy you off. I don’t want to indulge your unhealthy fantasies here but more likely we can still use the NRA by controlling the pro-gun narrative and leading the NRA from the outside, like Cody Wilson almost succeded in doing by forcing the 3D gun issue.

Frequency is the key, up to one schlonging per week, more around holidays, slips right through their attention spans and pattern-recognition ability. They can still keep thinking happy thoughts.

Another key factor is being overt about it. If the NRA or Trump concealed their contempt for the RKBA, some people might feel clever to discover it and not ashamed to have been “fooled”. But rubbing our faces in it creates an unpleasant, shameful reality that it’s easier for most of these peasants to just ignore. And they will. End of the day they won’t starve, there will still be sports events to watch – it’s nor a bad deal, a comfortable life as a tool. Without consciousely realizing it they just take the deal.

Remember the NRA sold us out in 1933-1934, 1968, 1994, 2018-2019! political games go along to get along except it’s peoples rights, red flag storm troopers are on the horizon in this Democratic controlled utopia, loook for mass illegal immigration next after they finish off the Constitution time to succeed from the Union!