Tom claims his ex-wife, Michelle, tried to have him killed and attempted to stab herself in front of their kids. Michelle denies both claims. She says she didn’t try to kill herself – Tom was chasing her through the house, and she picked up the knife to protect herself from him.

As Tom and Michelle trade allegations of cheating, mental abuse, and domestic violence on Thursday’s Dr. Phil, what is their response when he asks: “Do you all realize what you just described – that your children were witness to?”