Posted by dave W. on 9/25/2015, 1:32 pm, in reply to "Re: On Wu Wei"69.121.80.x

--Previous Message-- : : Greetings Dave W : : In your mind do most people have fundamental : civil liberties? : If not do they have "something ?" : : In peace, : Gar : : : : : : : --Previous Message-- : : : --Previous Message-- : I have no expectation of fairness or justice : or equality, Dave. As I read the Laozi, I : find there no cause for such expectation. : : Dao affords me both the opportunity to : ascend to the heights of the angels and to : be put into the ovens of Auschwitz. : : Both. : : : : Without fundamental civil liberties you have : nothing.

In my mind all people are governed by natural law (fundamental civil liberties, yes), however if the society in which the individual lives in is in disarray the individual can experience unspeakable suffering. The kind of suffering that most people cannot fathom. :