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True Wiz wrote:My opinion was Eminem now. None of my posts against Em relate to any period pre-hiatus.

My opinions are reputable and plausible. You're just blind.

If your post was about Eminem now, why is it that when EminemBase brought up examples from pre-hiatus Eminem to refute your claim that Eminem isn't known for being a great lyricist, you stood by your assertion?

"Eminem isn't known to be an insane lyricist" is about as dumb as saying Andy Roddick isn't known for his serving.

It's to my real ill niggas, heavy(weight hitters)Dough getters, fifty ways to (make figures)My niggas, that come on the spot to feel sistersLike they hear real spitters and kids on the zigga-ziggasWhen it's ugly, then the club is lovelyThugs be sipping Hennessey and bubblyTo my comrades that keep it flaming hotOn dangerous blocks, claiming spotsWhere the goal is to be one of the top-ranked soldiersForty-five holders, one of the high rollersGet respect in the hood, credit is goodKnock it down lumberjack style, baby, extra wood (syllables don't align)Rock it all night long, the bang-a-thon babyKeep hanging on, we like it with the lights onDon't have to blow twenty thou' to get to know honey's styleShow her the town, steal her heart, no money down

Eminem (I'll stop at 16 to make it fair):

I'm liable to start a violent spark with a silent thoughtI disgust you like dialogue from The Shop to The Wired FrogNight club, shit, I was taught if your CD's on fireYou had to put it out yourself like Highland Park, no fire departmentSo you may not hear sirens at allBut don't be alarmed if I sound offSomething just ain't right with me, dawgA martyr on a private charter, whose life could be harder?Widely regarded, highly bite me, sweetheart, I'm slightly retardedBut tonight I'm starting shit, I'm feeling self righteousI might justhop in a mosh pit on some Mike Tyson and Pac shitLooking to box with anybody, disorderly conductI'll fuck around and snort a key and pick a fight with a locksmith(Fan of) the LOX, ba(nanas) (manic), I'm going in shock (inverse: in shock, frantic/fan of the LOX)Frantic, I'm trapped in a closetPanic attack cause I'm claustrophobic

I'm sure I still missed stuff, and it got to the point where I ran out of ways to identify schemes within schemes.

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True Wiz wrote:God damnit, I like you Insider. Why you gotta hurt fam like this?

Once again, I was only saying that Eminem deserves the title of GOAT, along side a wide range of other artists. Why are you all so fucking defensive?

Well wiz is right to defend other talent in hip-hop but yeah no one can take anything away from Em. He is a complete package.What impressed me most in this album is his production. Surprising, interesting and lovely. I guess the tracks he produced are... Fine line, Right for me, Twisted, Down, Vegas, Shady XV and Die alone. Enjoyed the production a lot

Bitch take 3 biscuits, one for you, one mineand now bend over to take the 3rd from behindI'm fucking misogynistic, I ain't giving a f**k to you tonight

slimmatters wrote:But yeah Em is more than just a basic rhymer... His top rhymes are among the best in hip-hop... Em is above basic in almost everything.

I'd say he's above average, but nothing special. He's just a good rapper. Do you respect Em for his lines or rhymes more? See.

Lines but his rhymes are good. His multis are special... How can you deny that... the mmlp2 em and shady xv em has shown his capability to rhyme... His rhyme schemes are complex and fun to listen.. not a fun to read.. but fun to listen undoubtedly

Bitch take 3 biscuits, one for you, one mineand now bend over to take the 3rd from behindI'm fucking misogynistic, I ain't giving a f**k to you tonight

True Wiz wrote:His multies are good, but rhyme schemes force him off beat. That's why he does that stop-go thing.

Okay i guess we think about Em's rhyming ability a bit differently... doesn't matter he is dope rapper who has cemented his legacy. One of the biggest artist of the past 15 years and probably the biggest rap artist in that period

Bitch take 3 biscuits, one for you, one mineand now bend over to take the 3rd from behindI'm fucking misogynistic, I ain't giving a f**k to you tonight

True Wiz wrote:God damnit, I like you Insider. Why you gotta hurt fam like this?

Once again, I was only saying that Eminem deserves the title of GOAT, along side a wide range of other artists. Why are you all so fucking defensive?

I'm simply demonstrating that the claims you made about rhyming are objectively false. We're not in 2004-2007 anymore, dude. Eminem's off the pills. Nobody can out-rhyme him.

Danny Brown and Big Sean did.

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BIG.....

SEAN.

LOL, what?

Boy I need no halves and halves, I want the game in entirety100 percent cut, no stitches requiredWelcome to Detroit where if you get that promotionDon't worry, man them bullets will still be at your ass firin'I still call it safe, I would suck if I was umpirin'Boy I hit the beat I just treat that shit like a diaryI'm offended if you hear my new shit and you ain't rewindin' meSelf made, I never needed your bail or a wire, seeI'm never callin' collect, I call to collectMy homie wanted a Chevy so I put my dog in the vetAhh! Plus I'm so loyal that that paper, boy, is all that I fetchIf the ball in my hand then the ball in the netBitch I'm the D, can't no offense dunk on meI'm Mr. Big Shot, these hoes get drunk off meI'm overrespected, my mama gated community's overprotectiveSo futuristic, I'm already over my next bitchReminiscin' on listenin' to 50 fifty times a dayBack when tenth grade was like fifty days awayTryna get paid fifty ways a dayUsed to put fifty on the layaway, now my closet fifty shades of greyTwenty six and I done lived a lifetime a few timesFrom futons to Grey PouponsIn church tryna get a little savings, yeah couponsI spit that A1 every day, I'm hittin' new primesNow the stakes high, niggas surprised at the new linesOr takin' down my number like "you still ain't got a new line?"Nah it's the same, we've beenlaborin' for yearsI know it took way longer than nine months, but fuck it, it's all in due timeI turned a blunt to a roach with dreams of bein' a Beatle thoughDon't want to, I need to, ya gotta learn to keep it cerebralWhen you come up in a place where everyone got a piece but ain't peacefulThis is just part one, wait 'til the sequel

Eminem:

Lately it seems as if it's me against the worldLike it was before my life became a movieAnd they used to use my mothafuckin' trailer to tease me withBut I flipped that script like AB fillerPainkillers to pop the lid off that safety sealIt made me feel amazing, Navy SEAL of braveryAnd if I may reiterate, I ain't even need a scriptI ain't bein' conceitedBut I made it to radio, eat a dickI still never ABC the shit (syllables don't line up)Mainstream appeal but the skill is what made me illerSince before they called Jay Dee DillaI was daydreamin' one day I would be the shitAnd if I ever end up escapin' these streets I swear that I would stay hereStill in it, I'm crazy, I'll always be realDon't make me steal an eighteen-wheelerBreak all of my friends out of here and take 'em straight to the Mercedes dealerPeel off back to the same block that we came from, on a rampage You crazy for me to flipWhat's makin' you think I need a switch? Cause I'm Adrian PetersonWhen he's raging and heated and on the way to go beat his kidOn the track get spanked like he just did(DETROIT!) I can't never leave this bitchSick of bein' treated like me and shitBut Jesus, I can see just why people quit callin' me to do featuresAnd them cyphers on BET cause if I wasn't meI probably wouldn't want to play with me neither, shitSeems to be reachin' thisfever pitch180 degrees in here trying to wait for the cedar chipsMCs just bit off more than they can chew like a face full of Swedish FishOr Lorena with two penises (syllable off)Hateful ingeniousness, this inconvenienceAnd for the record, you won't want this type of static in your lifeWhen I'm makin' you cling to itThey consider tryna re-insulate yah when it's maybe in foranother crazy winterIt's so cold in the D, it is as days begin to tick awayBut ain't this really what made me into the angry bitter blondeBut ain't we sick of bein' underdogsDon't make me unleash this shit[b], release this Pit[b]May even seem as if I'm yankin' your chain a bitOr maybe the way in which I'm sayin' shitIs playin' with you but ain't shit changedAnd it's still the same shit and Shady's still alady killerSince the day I wentinsane and then attacked the babysitterWith a potato peeler and mushed her (face into the enter)tainment centerIt's like another plane just entered into Ukraine againOr the Bermuda Triangle and attempted to make a safe descentAwaiting anyone who ain't affiliated, it could be dangerDid you make arrangements with the gangsters 'fore you came here?And if they mention us

Eminem's had the Adrian Peterson scheme running throughout, goes in and out of the "made me iller" scheme, and goes in and out of the "crazy winter" scheme, with the schemes blending into each other. This is far more complex than anything the others are doing.

Eminem's choice of flow on this sucks, but his rhyme complexity is still dizzying.

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