Is it?

I am having a hard time wrapping my head around this. You are stealing plastic cutlery from a restaurant because you are too lazy to do your own dishes at home and want to mooch free plasticware from a for-profit establishment. Technically, you are probably committing petit theft. And you both agree that there is nothing. wrong. with. it.

shafnutz05 wrote:I am having a hard time wrapping my head around this. You are stealing plastic cutlery from a restaurant because you are too lazy to do your own dishes at home and want to mooch free plasticware from a for-profit establishment. Technically, you are probably committing petit theft. And you both agree that there is nothing. wrong. with. it.

What if I'm intending to use it on the meal I bought from them, but didnt? Did it start off as not being theft, then turn into theft?

shafnutz05 wrote:I am having a hard time wrapping my head around this. You are stealing plastic cutlery from a restaurant because you are too lazy to do your own dishes at home and want to mooch free plasticware from a for-profit establishment. Technically, you are probably committing petit theft. And you both agree that there is nothing. wrong. with. it.

What if I'm intending to use it on the meal I bought from them, but didnt? Did it start off as not being theft, then turn into theft?

But that's not what Dudeman said. He said point blank that he grabs a bunch of cutlery with the intent that he doesn't feel like washing his dishes at home. The example you just put is COMPLETELY different than what we were just discussing, of course there is nothing wrong with that.

Edit: If Dudeman grabbed one set of cutlery with the intent of using it on that one meal, I have no issue with that. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't even have an issue if he grabbed his one set of cutlery he is entitled to with his meal, knowing he would probably just save it for later.

shafnutz05 wrote:I am having a hard time wrapping my head around this. You are stealing plastic cutlery from a restaurant because you are too lazy to do your own dishes at home and want to mooch free plasticware from a for-profit establishment. Technically, you are probably committing petit theft. And you both agree that there is nothing. wrong. with. it.

seriously? I know places that automatically throw plastic forks and spoons in the bag for your to go order. I also know places that just have that stuff sitting out. Whats the difference? I'm not grabbing handfulls because Im too lazy to do dishes or dont want to buy my own silverware. How many napkins are acceptable to take?

shafnutz05 wrote:I am having a hard time wrapping my head around this. You are stealing plastic cutlery from a restaurant because you are too lazy to do your own dishes at home and want to mooch free plasticware from a for-profit establishment. Technically, you are probably committing petit theft. And you both agree that there is nothing. wrong. with. it.

seriously? I know places that automatically throw plastic forks and spoons in the bag for your to go order. I also know places that just have that stuff sitting out. Whats the difference? I'm not grabbing handfulls because Im too lazy to do dishes or dont want to buy my own silverware. How many napkins are acceptable to take?

If the worker throws them in, that's not your problem. If you grab 8 cutlery sets on your way out to hoard for future use, that is stealing.

shafnutz05 wrote:I am having a hard time wrapping my head around this. You are stealing plastic cutlery from a restaurant because you are too lazy to do your own dishes at home and want to mooch free plasticware from a for-profit establishment. Technically, you are probably committing petit theft. And you both agree that there is nothing. wrong. with. it.

What if I'm intending to use it on the meal I bought from them, but didnt? Did it start off as not being theft, then turn into theft?

But that's not what Dudeman said. He said point blank that he grabs a bunch of cutlery with the intent that he doesn't feel like washing his dishes at home. The example you just put is COMPLETELY different than what we were just discussing, of course there is nothing wrong with that.

Edit: If Dudeman grabbed one set of cutlery with the intent of using it on that one meal, I have no issue with that. As a matter of fact, I wouldn't even have an issue if he grabbed his one set of cutlery he is entitled to with his meal, knowing he would probably just save it for later.

But I said that. I said I take the cutlery for THAT meal...then said sometimes I decide not to use it. And this is a plastic freakin fork thats sitting in a tin on a counter, Im not going to feel bad for taking it regardless.

Whats your percentage of times you take a penny compared to the times you leave a penny?

Chipotle has breakfast burritos? Dont they all open at 11 with their normal.burritos?Secondly, how do you chain down a glass bottle. Finally, cant you still get all the sauce you want? What was ruined?

itissteeltime wrote:Chipotle has breakfast burritos? Dont they all open at 11 with their normal.burritos?Secondly, how do you chain down a glass bottle. Finally, cant you still get all the sauce you want? What was ruined?

They obviously punched a hole in the glass and put a chain link through it.

Is the question in this thread "is it stealing..." or is the question "is it okay to take..." I think there's a huge difference. I've taken pint glasses, plastic glasses with logos, hell i've even stolen a steak knife before. The difference is I recognize that all of these are theft. I don't see myself as a big time criminal, but it's still stealing. The hot sauce bottles are the same way. Am I upset that you take them? No, that's your perogative, but don't try to rationalize it as not being theft. It is theft no matter how you look at it.

count2infinity wrote:Is the question in this thread "is it stealing..." or is the question "is it okay to take..." I think there's a huge difference. I've taken pint glasses, plastic glasses with logos, hell i've even stolen a steak knife before. The difference is I recognize that all of these are theft. I don't see myself as a big time criminal, but it's still stealing. The hot sauce bottles are the same way. Am I upset that you take them? No, that's your perogative, but don't try to rationalize it as not being theft. It is theft no matter how you look at it.

it qualifies as "stealing" and "not ok". you can share this opinion and still be an offending party - like you with your pint glasses. you've stolen, and you've done something that was unacceptable. but it's not something to make a big deal about.

I think it's both theft and wrong to do much of what is discussed in this thread. However, taking more plastic cutlery isn't a big deal, even though it's wrong.

Taking a pint glass is worse. It's wrong and I would judge people a little more harshly for something like that, mainly because the sale value of the item is higher. Napkins and ketchup packets are pennies. Glasses, half full bottles of hot sauce and steak knives are more expensive.

We're also talking about motive. I think that's a big factor. Taking the hot sauce because you don't want to buy your own is wrong and quite pathetic. Taking four extra napkins because you don't want to run out isn't wrong.

yubb wrote: Taking the hot sauce because you don't want to buy your own is wrong and quite pathetic.

Should this sentence be finished with "... and you're taking more than you need to use on other products." ???

If not, I dont agree. The hot sauce is for me to use on my burrito, regardless of where I eat my burrito. Why would I buy it, if its free? That's very stupid. Should I start bringing my own sauce to chipotle?