situation room." >>> happening now, just two days before the firstobama/romneydebateandour new cnn national poll shows the president's lost, lost his post-convention bounce. but there's a different story in the battleground states. >>> mitt romney could make a huge impact on the supreme court. how he could change the direction of the court for decades. >>> they make $10 a day to put their lives on the line. but they could lose their job ifs they don't lose some weight. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we're now just 36 days from the presidential election and nationally our brand-new cnn/orc poll of likely voters shows the race between president obama and governor romney remaining up for grabs. the president leads 50% to 47%. but his three-point margin is within the poll's sampling error. our chief national correspondent john king is in denver getting ready for the debate over there. that's the site of the debate. john, take us into these numbers. what are you seeing? >> reporter: well, wolf, i can tell you this, talking to senior officials in the romney campaig

. so we welcomethisdebate. wewould love to have it withmittromneybecausei think the american people do see a real difference between these two men and that's why they keep siding with the president in terms of his ability to be the commander in chief. >> stephanie cutter, previewing the debate, good luck to your team tonight. >> thanks, andrea. >>> mitt romney, what is his battle plan? romney senior adviser and former senator jim talent joins us next. msnbc's prime time coverage of tonight's debate hosted by rachel maddow in new york and chris mathews in denver begins at 8:00 eastern after "hard ball." this is "andrea mitchell reports" live in denver only on msnbc. hey. hey eddie. i brought your stuff. you don't have to do this. yes i do. i want you to keep this. it'd be weird. take care. you too. [ sighs ] so how did it go? he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in class fuel economy. it's our most innovative altima ever. ♪ check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spri

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dates call serious hits he took last night fromgovernorromneyinthebigdebate. welltomorrow to "america live." back in new york, folks i'm megyn kelly. a look back now in denver, colorado where a fired up barack obama has just finished this rally. he was going off on governor romney in that campaign appearance, and we heard a very different-sounding barack obama at this rally. it comes after the president's top campaign advisers, hour after hour hit the air waves clearly trying to reframe the presidential's debate performs answer. political observers said he looked irritated, annoyed and was unhappy to be on the stage while mitt romney sounded presidential. thousand they try to make the argument that governor romney only won last night because he lied. here is the president moments ago. >> we also had our first debate last night. when i got onto the stage i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. [laughter] >> but it couldn't have been mitt romney, because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in

tuesday. a lot of his back woeers would disagree butmittromneyisout there saying tomorrow'sbigdebateisn'tabout winning. polls show romney in a close race with the president, but trailing badly in some of the swing states that will decide the presidential election. well, here is mitt romney, we have heard these words before, sounds as though he's downplaying expectations as they say. take a listen. >> people want to know who is going to win, who is going to score the punches and who is going to make the biggest difference in the arguments they make and there is going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. >> so romney is saying, no, it is not about winning, not about losing, it is about america. but you have a lot of republicans, newt gingrich, for example, saying, hey, mitt romney, get out there, pick a fight, and win it. jim acosta with me now from the romney campaign. the debate, of course, tomorrow night in denver, you, sir, are in littleton, colorado. should we take mitt romney at face value when he says this debate is not about me winning? >> reporter: well, brooke, i th

favorite political analysts onwhetherromneycanrecover at this week'spresidentialdebate. >>>what happened? the u.s. team falls apart and the europeans take the ryder cup back home. >> and is there life out there? nasa says a river really did run through it. more evidence there may have been life on mars. >>> good evening, everyone. you are in the "cnn newsroom." let's get you up to speed. the presidential candidates are headed west. president obama is in nevada tonight holding a rally at desert pines high school. let's take a moment and listen in. >> i will use the money we are no longer spending on war to do nation building here at home, rebuilding roads and bridges and putting americans back to work and that's part of what makes america strong. that's what we're going to do. so this is the choice we face in the election, and this is what the election comes down to, and i know you must be tired of hearing ads, but you will hear moreover the next six weeks, and over and over again, you will hear my opponents talking about how bigger tax cuts and fewer regulations and that's the w

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debate. mittromneyheadsto colorado tomorrow, where he'll hold a rally, and continue his preparations for wednesday's showdown in denver. he went to church this morning outside boston, but held no public events over the weekend. >>> in iraq, at least 30 people were killed today in a wave of bombings. some explosions hit in or near baghdad. it is the deadliest day in iraq in nearly a month. shiite muslim communities appear to be the main targets of the attacks. >>> a christian pakistani girl accused of desecrating the koran is set to be cleared of all charges. tomorrow a juvenile court in pakistan is expected to uphold a police investigation that found the 14-year-old was not only innocent, she was framed by a muslim cleric in her hometown. the cleric now faces blasphemy charges of his own for tearing pages out of a koran to use as evidence against the child. >>> and this is the center of a desperate search for two little children in middle tennessee. a family home that burned down last weekend, everyone believed a 9-year-old girl and her 7-year-old brother were among those killed. but

romney, therepublicannominee.thisdebateandthe next three, two presidential, one vice-presidential, are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six, roughly 15-minute segments, with two-minute answers for the first question, then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions via the internet and other means. but i made the final selections. for the record, they were not submitted for approval to the commission per the candidates. the subjects, as i announce in advance, will be three on the economy, and one each on health care, the role of government, and government, with an emphasis throughout on differences, specifics, and choices. both candidates will also have two-minute closing statements. the audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent. no cheers, applause, boos, hisses, among other noisy distracting things, 0 -- so we may all concentrate on what

thatthatdebatehasreally, really helpedmittromney. >>yeah, i don't thinktheromneycampaigncould have wanted to do any more with this debate than they did. if you look across the board at these numbers, wolf, romney has made gains in almost every area including somebody who's better able to improve the jobs situation. he leads -- romney leads obama by eight points on that. so whether it's on the economy, whether it's on leadership, he's now tied with the president. as far as leadership ability is concerned. so i think romney got everything out of that debate and more. >> he certainly did. and if you take a look at -- let me put the numbers back on the screen one more time. earlier this month before the debate, romney was behind the president, the president, 51%, romney, 43%. eight-point difference. now 49% for romney, 45% for obama, a four-point spread. that's a 12-point spread in only, what, three weeks, shall we say? and clearly the major development was his strong performs at that debate. >> you know, wolf, it just shows you that voters are still really weighing the pluses and minu

to be getting tight other aftergovernorromney's strongperformance in last week'spresidentialdebateanew "gallup poll" taken in the first three days after the faceoff, shows the two contenders locked into a dead-heat, 47% each. what does governor romney's team need to do to keep up the momentum? erin mcpike, national political reporter for "real clear politics.". erin, i know a lot of republicans are saying the momentum has swung governor romney's way. it is a sprint to the finish line. you seem to be a little more cautious about that. why? >> i am because i'm looking at "real clear politics" polling averages of all the battleground states and the president is still ahead in big states he needs to win like wisconsin and ohio. he also still winning in new hampshire and nevada. and when you add those states to the electoral college map, it shows still that it's a tough way for mitt romney to go. he has got to win more than just say virginia and florida if he can win those now. jon: how many of those polls that "real clear politics" averages, how many have been taken post-debate, do you kno

, thenthisdebatehappeningon wednesday is the time. >> as president obama andmittromneyprepareforthedebateindenver, survivors of recent shooting massacres are asking the moderator to ask the candidates about gun violence. we will speak with colin goddard, who survived the shooting at virginia tech in 2007, and to poet professor nikki g rabbani, who taught the shooter in her class. >> if you are not concerned about gun violence, what are you concerned about? >> first, the u.s. death toll an event -- afghanistan tops 2000. we talk about america's longest- running war. all that and more coming up. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. iran's currency has hit an all- time low amidst a worsening financial crisis brought upon by u.s.-led sanctions. on monday, the iranian rial dropped 15% to its lowest point against the dollar, capping a three-month contest that has seen its overall value drop 57%. the price of basic foods are on the rise since a new round of sanctions took place in july. a former u.s. ambassador to the un and under secretary of st

heard frommittromneyandalso from paul ryan and what you thought aboutthedebate. youcan call us at at 202-585- 3885 if you are a democrat. call 202-585-3886 if you are a republican. call 202-585-3887 if you are an inindependent. we have a caller on the line. go ahead. caller: i believe that these two have sold their souls to the douevil. i think that they are hypocrites. total hypocrites. >> we have a republican caller from florida. go ahead. caller: i feel like, maybe, it seems like every year some blame them for what they have dawn or have not done. what is really going to happen? >> anger facebook page showed the people won the -- mitt romney won the debate last night. -- on our facebook page, a majority of people said that mitt romney won the debate last night. who did you think one? caller: i think it was mitt romney. >> let's go to our next call from oregon. caller: i was really impressed with that debate last night. we need a good businessman. i think we need some new energy and new ideas. spending is out of control. we need a party that can get it under control and i thi

, factor exclusive. we'll talk to the man who preppedmittromneyforhisrepublicanprimarydebates, rightb >> bill: impact segment, president obama in nevada, mitt romney in colorado. both prepping for the big debate tomorrow night. remember when newt gingrich clocked the governor in the south carolina debate last spring, romney came back strong in florida. the man who helped prepare the governor for those debates, brett o'dnell joins us now. you really know this turf because you worked for john mccain when he ran against barak obama in 2008 and now in the primary season, you worked for mitt romney. let's assess the governor's strengths and weaknesses as a debater first. strengths? >> well, i think the governor is a very good messenger. he's a good orator, he can deliver a speech. he's very good when he's on message and on offense. as you saw in the debates in florida against newt gingrich when he got on offense, the governor was very effective. when he leans into a debate, he can be pretty effective. >> bill: all right. weakness? >> weaknesses, when he gets -- like most every politician

romneyshouldhave some heavy verbal ammunition to use inthedebatetomorrownight. for his part, the president will remain steadfast that everything is going according to plan. >> four years ago i said i'd end the war in iraq, i did. i said we're going to wind down the war in afghanistan. we are. and while a twin tower -- while a new tower rises above the new york skyline, al-qaeda is on the path to defeat and osama bin laden is dead. >> bill: but according to the american commander in afghanistan, al-qaeda fighters are again causing trouble in that country and the terror group might even be responsible for murdering ambassador stevens. talking points believes many voters are still persuadable. that support for the president is thin among some independents. recent rasmussen poll says 42% of those backing the president are locked in stone. that gives the governor some room tomorrow night. but he needs to be surgical in making his points. that's a memo. now for the top story, is u.s. foreign policy in trouble? joining us from boston, fox news military analyst, colonel david hunt a

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. crews set the stage formittromney's lastrally before his firstpresidentialdebate. >>i think a lot of people are waiting until the debate wednesday. i think that's going to be a big sway for some people to finally see them go head to head and see where they are on the issues. >> reporter: wednesday's debate at university of denver will focus on domestic policy. romney supporters want the gop nominee to show undecided voters how he'll jump start the slow recovery. >> i think he has solutions to our economic problems and that's really what's going to help everyone in this country. >> reporter: colorado is a battleground state that went for president obama in 2008. republicans here say they've already made four times the phone calls as this time four years ago. a new washington post poll gives the president a comfortable 11 point lead when it comes to swing states like colorado. >> i feel like he actually has a plan, whereas romney i haven't seen specifics really. >> reporter: the poll also shows 56% of voters think the president will win the first debate. sunday in las vegas he tr

different pollversusromneygoingup on average 4.5% sincethedebategiveit to me one more time. >> it's already over. >> cenk: okay, now i'm going to show you why you shouldn't panic and why that idiot talk show host is not wrong. but first i got to say something more important. i've said like many other pundits that president obama lost that debate. and he clearly did. you look at the polls from all these different organizations they say he lost from 32 to 42 points. but i don't want to equate two things and get them confused. a tactical victory and a debate for mitt romney does not mean you should vote for him. it doesn't mean that he's right. nice job on the debate the tactics, and president obama i can't believe you screwed that up. look at all those lies, why didn't you attack him. it doesn't mean that he's telling the truth and it doesn't mean that president obama is not accurate in what he says is his policies and numbers. i look at these numbers, i think, oh my god there are people who accidently believe that that good debate was reality. the reason why president obama had a b

to hear fromaromney. thiswill be his firstpost-debateappearance.he is here with his running mate, paul ryan, and they had some previous speakers warming up the crowd, including the virginia lt. gov on the stage now. that candidates should be out shortly. live coverage here on c-span. >> his lofty promises of hope and change. four years later, the rhetoric has stated. it has been replaced by a record. is character of failed leadership in every respect. it is time for him to go. this president's economic policies have failed our country. no one in america can say they are better off today than they were four years ago at. 23 million of our fellow americans are suffering because they are out of work and looking for jobs. and we have had an implacable breakup of over 8% for 43 straight months. more americans living and poverty, more americans ought the stamps, more americans to whom the american dream has become an unattainable dream. that is not america. it is time for him to go. [applause] his economic policies and spending policies are threatening the financial foundation of our c

nominee, and former massachusetts governormittromney, therepublicannominee.thisdebateandthe next three, two presidential, one vice presidential, are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-minute segments with two-minute answers for the first question, then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions via the internet and other means, but i made the final selections, and for the record, they were not submitted for approval to the commission or the candidates. the segments as i announced in advance will be three on the economy and one each on health care, the role of government, and governing. with an emphasis throughout on differences, specifics, and choices. both candidates will also have two-minute closing statements. the audience here in the hall has promised to remain silent. no cheers, applause, boos, hisses among other noisy distracting things. so we ma

in and i'm looking forward to havingthatdebate. >>governorromney, twominutes. >> thank you, jim. it's an honor to be here with you. and i appreciate the chance to be with the president. i'm pleased to be at the university of denver. appreciate their welcome. and also the presidential commission on these debates. and congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you could imagine, here with me. so congratulations. this is obviously a very tender topic. i've had the occasion over the last couple of years of meeting people across the country. i was in dayton, ohio, and a woman grabbed my arm and she said i've been out of work since may, can you help me? and yesterday was at a rally in denver and a woman came up to her with a baby in her arms and said, ann, my his has had four jobs in three years, part-time jobs. he's lost his most recent job, and we've now just lost our home. can you help us? and the answer is yes. we can help. but it's going to take a different path. not the one we've been on. not the one the president describes

are in the works formittromneytodeliver a major foreign policy speech shortly afterwednesday'sdebate. whatdo you think of that? you think he should do that? >> yes. i think, as i said, right after the killing, that wasn't the time to talk about this. >> right. >> now is the time, several weeks later, to talk about it. john heilemann, the lead in "the new york times," mistake in faith and security seen at libya mission before benghazi raid. response to the june bomb raised confidence in local guards. this benghazi story is an absolute mess. i think -- i've heard stuart stevens as saying let's focus on the economy. i think stuart stevens is exactly right. americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the

on it. here's thedeal.romney's notgoing to try to bring it up inthedebate. norwill president obama because the moment you do, you have opened the door for your opponent to actually you out. so, responsibility's going to rest on the debate moderator, who is not going to do it, but again, what people are saying is can i get somebody to tell me the truth? you can cross words all you want to, but there are some things called undeniable truth. so no matter how you want to dance around it, some things are very clear. >> there's also such a thing as throwi throwing things against the wall and that is what the obama campaign has been effective at doing and the romney campaign hasn't been. >> the romney campaign, they have been -- i can show you the proof. go to our website. again, you have campaigns -- >> check up on after the fact. >> my point, you said earlier -- i said absolutely. if you have that many eyeballs watching and this is -- >> we can go back and hear the the transcript. i said it's subjective and unclear and you can manipulate late the process. >> so some things, but there ar

between formergovernorromneyandpresidentobama.thisdebateisone of three, this one will be focused on domestic issues. c-span will bring you live coverage tonight. the debate gets underway at 9:00. jim lehrer is the moderator and is doing his final preparations. we would like to hear from you this morning. what questions do you have for the candidates? here are the numbers to call -- host: you can also find us online. send us a twitter message, twitter.com/c-spanwj. we have a special hash tag for this, c-span 2012. or you can e-mail us at journal@c-span.org. the opinion section of "usa today," tackling this morning's question. the number one question for president obama? it revolves around the economy. they would like to ask president obama -- "if you did not turn around the economy within three years, you said in 2009, your presidency would be one term." see: let's jump over and the top question for mitt romney. host: would you like to ask the candidates as we go over the debate. the top story this morning on the front page that we are looking at right now, "middle- class detour."

their attacks. a top obama adviserdismissingromney's debateperformanceas, quote, masterful but fundamentally dishonest. >> mitt romney will say absolutely anything to get elected. >> reporter: and the administration's response to one of the latest job report. >> the economy is not doing well and the fact that you have a white house celebrating an unemployment rate of 7.8% with 23 million americans out of work or unemployed or underemployed tells you a lot about the failure of this administration's polici policies. >> reporter: romney has made a shift to sharing a more compassionate side, something he resisted, in three straight rallies recounting the memories of a 14-year-old he befriended with leukemia. >> he asked me a very difficult question, mitt, what's knock. he called me brother romney, what's next? david passed away, but i'll always remember and never forget his courage, his clear eyes, his full heart. david can't lose. i love the greatness of the soul of the american people. >> reporter: and this week's main event doesn't actually include the president or mitt romney. instead, it's

debatewednesdaynight, he appeared lackluster compared to moreaggressiveromney. obamahit back against his opponent during a rally in denver, accusing romney of backtracking over tax cuts for the wealthy. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. [laughter] but it could not have been in romney because the real mitt romney has been running around the country for the last year promising $5 trillion in tax cuts to favor the wealthy. the fellow on stage last not said he did not know anything about that. >> mitt romney tried to capitalize on his high marks from the debate as he campaigned in the swing state of virginia. some critics noted obama fell to ask from the about his famous 47% comment that nearly half of americans believe they are victims entitled to government support. during a fox news appearance thursday night, sean hannity asked romney how he would have responded if obama had brought it up. >> clearly, in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you say something that

. this week is the big vicepresidentialdebate. butnextweek,mr.romneyandpresident obama will face off againing on long island and romney aides say there will be next week another policy speech, next one on the economy. >> shep: you were talking about policy. what is it that governor romney says he would do differently? >> well, there haven't been a lot of specifics. there are some differences, however. for instance, mr. romney has said he will move to impose sanctions on iraq -- iran with the international community much more aggressively, as well as additional pressure from the united states. he argues that he will enable the rebels in syria to arm themselves more effectively, to go up against the iran-backed regime of assad who has been crushing rebels and killing civilians. and mr. romney said he will link relations with egypt, now led by pot morsi of the muslim brotherhood, what has been described virulent anti-west and says our relationship will be based on trade, something mr. romney said should be much more aggressively policed and pursued, free trade and fairer trade with chin

andromneyarearguing over who's going to spend more money on medicare when we need to have aragingdebateanddiscussion in this country on how we slash medicare spending because if we don't, um, i believe that we're going to find ourselves in the midst of a monetary collapse as a result of continuing to borrow and spend money to the tune of 43 cents out of every dollar that we spend. >> host: so what are you seeing out there on that particular issue? what's your prescription, pardon the expression. >> guest: well, i oversaw the reform of medicaid in new mexico when i was governor of new mexico. we took it from a fee-for-service model to a managed care model. we saved hundreds of millions of dollars, we set up better health care networks for the poor in new mexico. i believe if the federal government would have block granted the state of new mexico 43% less money, done away with all the strings and the mandates that i could have effectively overseen the delivery of health care to the poor. i think you apply that same template to medicare, health care for those over 65, get the federal gov

on it. here's thedeal,romneyisnot going to try to bring it up inthedebate. norwill president obama. the moment you do, have you opened the door for your opponent. >> you have to look in the mirror, it's an ugly picture. >> the responsibility is going to rest on the debate mod rater who is not going to do it. >> what people are saying is, can i get somebody to tell me the truth? i will say this here. you can parse words all you want to. there are some things called undeniable truth. no matter how you want to dance around it, there are some things that are very clear. some things are true, some things are false. >> there's also such a thing as throwing things against the wall and that is what the obama campaign has been effective at doing and the romney campaign hasn't been effective at doing that. >> the romney campaign, they have been -- i can show you the proof. go to our website. we have all the time. again, you have campaigns -- >> check up on after the fact. >> no, no. that's my point. you said earlier -- >> you want to call. >> you said don't fact check during the debate

that president obama andmittromneyaregoingtobedebating. wehave done she more debates left. at the end of the day, the person who comes out as the candidate most able to get america back on track in terms of jobs and getting people back to work, that candidate has the biggest advantage. on friday with the jobs number, present, we gained some of that advantage. i will not say the september numbers will be a game changer. but i do think we have some good news for the president. host: we are looking at the jobs figures that came out yesterday. we hear from the candidates who spoke yesterday. here is governor romney talking about the jobs numbers released. [video clip] >> there was a report that came out on jobs. there were fewer jobs created this month that last month. the unemployment rate has come down slowly, but it has come down. it is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. if you just drop out of the work force and say, i cannot go back to work, i will stay home. you are no longer part of the employment statistics. it's the same share

sides are doing it and to not quite mediate in that way. both campaigns,theromneycampaignis particularly in the last few days has said that during the debates they're going to fact check live which sometimes can mean just saying something isn't true when it is true or saying something is true when it isn't true. and i think that because the speed has really increased, there's a lot more for reporters to do. um, there's also the issue i mentioned about money and spending and keeping an eye on that. i think there's some great work that's being done in tracking spending and donors and figuring it out. but there's also a lot more money on the table because of citizens united. so that's a real challenge. and in some ways to bring the optimism and pessimism together about this, i think that this might be the election cycle where both sides -- it's become clear what the tools are for both sides. there's money, there's media access, there's social media, there's ways to quickly get information out and really ask questions. and the last few weeks before people actually vote, we're

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