I've only ever given to Salvation Army once and that's because those guys earned that donation. They were in full Christmas Carol/Dickens style attire, one guy doing full blown BoJangles dancing and the other guy belting out holiday cheer to the point where it even penetrated my cold Grinchey heart which is 3 sizes too small around Christmas time. So I dropped $5 in their bucket.

That being said I would drop a buck or two again if there was an adorable mini-horse involved.

oldfarthenry:Hell, it's not as if you Quasimodo freaks were leaving your moms basements anyway. Why the hate for bells & Sally Ann?

It's called the "Salvation Army" and they're less keen these days, than they were about 10 - 30 years ago, on helping your destitute self if you're homosexual and/or not willing to submit to Christianity. Yes they're allowed to be that way as a Church, but I won't put any money into a pot that is used to build churches and shelters, used to attempt to convert fellow Jews and people of other faiths/non-faith to Christianity. Give me an organization that stands outside a supermarket that says "Secular - Help The Homeless/Hungry Campaign" (or a Jewish organization, since they don't push people to convert to Judaism, but making sure that organization doesn't *only* cater to Jews) and has documentation at their desk (that I could verify through the internet on my cell phone) that proves most of it goes to helping and the minimum needed used for administration costs, then i'll put my money in!

Why is the name "Tinker" so appropriate? Is it because of the kettle?I never give to the Salvos because of religion. I also tell the boy scouts no way when they ask me to buy their popcorn.I like secular, non-discriminatory charities, although I realise no-one really cares what I think.

Spartacus Outlaw:Why is the name "Tinker" so appropriate? Is it because of the kettle?I never give to the Salvos because of religion. I also tell the boy scouts no way when they ask me to buy their popcorn.I like secular, non-discriminatory charities, although I realise no-one really cares what I think.

DarkSoulNoHope:oldfarthenry: Hell, it's not as if you Quasimodo freaks were leaving your moms basements anyway. Why the hate for bells & Sally Ann?

It's called the "Salvation Army" and they're less keen these days, than they were about 10 - 30 years ago, on helping your destitute self if you're homosexual and/or not willing to submit to Christianity. Yes they're allowed to be that way as a Church, but I won't put any money into a pot that is used to build churches and shelters, used to attempt to convert fellow Jews and people of other faiths/non-faith to Christianity. Give me an organization that stands outside a supermarket that says "Secular - Help The Homeless/Hungry Campaign" (or a Jewish organization, since they don't push people to convert to Judaism, but making sure that organization doesn't *only* cater to Jews) and has documentation at their desk (that I could verify through the internet on my cell phone) that proves most of it goes to helping and the minimum needed used for administration costs, then i'll put my money in!

Sounds like you're trying to disguise your cheap-ass narcissism in a layer of self-righteous indignation - but thanks for the lecture, Pontificus Von Assburger.

Spartacus Outlaw:Why is the name "Tinker" so appropriate? Is it because of the kettle?I never give to the Salvos because of religion. I also tell the boy scouts no way when they ask me to buy their popcorn.I like secular, non-discriminatory charities, although I realise no-one really cares what I think.

I figured Tinker was appropriate because of the book (Tinker's Christmas) or because of elves tinkering with toys.

I give to the Salvation Army even though I don't approve of their stance on homosexuality. They do amazingly good work in other areas and I did need their help when I was on my own and nearly homeless at age 18. But, unlike the Boy Scouts, they are clearly a church organization and don't pretend to be anything else. The Boy Scouts are supposed to be a non-secular organization. There's no reason for them to be discriminatory--they just choose to hate gays. If they declared themselves as having some sort of religious affiliation, I'd still disapprove, but at least they wouldn't be hypocrites about it.

It's called the "Salvation Army" and they're less keen these days, than they were about 10 - 30 years ago, on helping your destitute self if you're homosexual and/or not willing to submit to Christianity. Yes they're allowed to be that way as a Church, but I won't put any money into a pot that is used to build churches and shelters, used to attempt to convert fellow Jews and people of other faiths/non-faith to Christianity. Give me an organization that stands outside a supermarket that says "Secular - Help The Homeless/Hungry Campaign" (or a Jewish organization, since they don't push people to convert to Judaism, but making sure that organization doesn't *only* cater to Jews) and has documentation at their desk (that I could verify through the internet on my cell phone) that proves most of it goes to helping and the minimum needed used for administration costs, then i'll put my money in!

Sounds like you're trying to disguise your cheap-ass narcissism in a layer of self-righteous indignation - but thanks for the lecture, Pontificus Von Assburger.

nope, he's got a valid point. I'll slip in a toonie, but for legitimate "holiday giving" I like to put my money where it does the most good.// Gstrings at the Silver Dollar.

DarkSoulNoHope:oldfarthenry: Hell, it's not as if you Quasimodo freaks were leaving your moms basements anyway. Why the hate for bells & Sally Ann?

It's called the "Salvation Army" and they're less keen these days, than they were about 10 - 30 years ago, on helping your destitute self if you're homosexual and/or not willing to submit to Christianity. Yes they're allowed to be that way as a Church, but I won't put any money into a pot that is used to build churches and shelters, used to attempt to convert fellow Jews and people of other faiths/non-faith to Christianity. Give me an organization that stands outside a supermarket that says "Secular - Help The Homeless/Hungry Campaign" (or a Jewish organization, since they don't push people to convert to Judaism, but making sure that organization doesn't *only* cater to Jews) and has documentation at their desk (that I could verify through the internet on my cell phone) that proves most of it goes to helping and the minimum needed used for administration costs, then i'll put my money in!

Well, that's one way to save a buck.

Excuses are like assholes: everybody's got one and nobody wants to hear it.

It's called the "Salvation Army" and they're less keen these days, than they were about 10 - 30 years ago, on helping your destitute self if you're homosexual and/or not willing to submit to Christianity. Yes they're allowed to be that way as a Church, but I won't put any money into a pot that is used to build churches and shelters, used to attempt to convert fellow Jews and people of other faiths/non-faith to Christianity. Give me an organization that stands outside a supermarket that says "Secular - Help The Homeless/Hungry Campaign" (or a Jewish organization, since they don't push people to convert to Judaism, but making sure that organization doesn't *only* cater to Jews) and has documentation at their desk (that I could verify through the internet on my cell phone) that proves most of it goes to helping and the minimum needed used for administration costs, then i'll put my money in!

Sounds like you're trying to disguise your cheap-ass narcissism in a layer of self-righteous indignation - but thanks for the lecture, Pontificus Von Assburger.

8/10, would get trolled again. But this is getting stale. It's the third week of Bell Season. You gotta freshen up that routine. I'd hate to see you go the way of Hanson and tenpoundsofcheese.