Getting Spiritual Help Through the Power of Asking

Recently myself and a group of friends planned a trip away to spend some time in nature, away from the business of the city, and to dedicate a bit of time to practising the techniques taught by Belsebuub in his work.

Most mornings, we would start with the walks in nature trying to just walk and clear the mind whilst being aware of what is happening internally. Generally through the feedback from myself and others attending this time-away that we had organized the benefits of being together and the group strength was beneficial and very rewarding, and it made me remember how Belsebuub had mentioned in the past about the benefits of getting away out of the city and meeting together with like-minded people to do such spiritual practices.

It was interesting noticing from one day to the next how an internal strength seems to be building up for each one of us present, finding it easier as the days went past to get more of a control as well as strength to slow the unwanted thoughts that seem to be constantly arising and also to see in more depth different internal states manifesting within.

Through the efforts I was putting in I could see the obvious benefits in our daily walks with the awareness although I did feel like I was missing something as if I was trying too hard and felt I was forcing it a bit, being a bit too mental with trying to be aware causing a slight tension in the body and the mind which also brought on some frustration.

I have to say it wasn’t instantaneous but after some time the result was really amazing; everything just finally fell into place I managed to see where it was I was going wrong and managed to experience a really deep state and sense of awareness, I seemed to have control over my thoughts and experience a great feeling of peace that seemed to last a long time, although it sounds like a cliché but I felt like I was one with all of nature, in tune with my surroundings.

As well as asking for insights into the awareness I also asked for help to show me what it is that is stopping me from progressing spiritually and what I really need to work on, not long after asking this a very clear image came to my mind of a passage I had read many years before and it was of a test that a spiritual being went through on a particular internal state (ego) and it became very clear that this is the state, or one of, that is holding me back and something I really need to get on top of.

This became more apparent as I then started to become aware of this internal state and started to see it in different ways that I acted that I was not aware of before and it seemed to be associated or linked with nearly everything that I do.

Belsebuub also talks about when people gather together like this and they are trying to learn more about themselves that there can be teaching going on not only for the individual but also for the whole group, and if the people are tuned into it there can be a common insights/message for all. Speaking among some of the people that attended this gathering and again, it did seem to be the case as we all seem to be gaining similar insights.

24 Comments

paty on August 19, 2017 at 6:17 am

Hey Richard, Thanks for sharing this really valuable experience.

I have also experienced being with a group that when everyone is making efforts towards awareness and self-observation there seems to be a group learning somehow. We are shown aspects of ourselves that we share internally and it is interesting to see how these are played out in the group.

You are right in that you need to be truly sincere in your intentions and in your asking. The results can be quite overwhelming while at the same time magical and very humbling.

It was nice to read your experience. I also tend to tense my body when trying to be aware and sometimes need to spend some time looking into the location and source of that tension before I’m able to shake it off.

For me, that subtle guidance in thoughts and images is more easily recognizable if I am meditating or have my body deeply relaxed, or am just waking up. Basically have my mind and body a bit more calm.

Hi Pavlin I know what you mean about being relaxed can help with the guidance I also find that if I can calm the mind this in turn can also help with the body to also be relaxed, but also need to be on guard as the tension can sneak in without you noticing thanks

Richard your story reminds me that I’m always comforted by the spiritual help which is given when I really want to see where I need to work and what I need to focus on internally. If done with sincerity, it has always been effective for me and I always feel humbled by the help which is waiting in the wings (for the asking).

It sounds like you got a lot out of this time-away in nature. Its just amazing how we can receive divine mercy by truly asking for help, how fortunate it is for us. You have reminded me of how much i forget to ask and to be always be always grateful.

Thank you so much Richard for sharing this experience giving inspiration and a reminder of the power and urgent necessity of asking.

I’ve seen from gathering with people in the past to focus on spiritual practice, how much strength and guidance that can give. Things that I had been stuck with really started moving and my life was shifting in big ways in general afterward.

It’s great you were able to notice and receive that guidance through an image in your mind. Like some said in the comments, that kind of guidance can be very subtle, what you get during the day as opposed to guidance in dreams for example, so I’m sometimes afraid of trusting it and going into self-deceit, thinking it was from the divine while maybe it was just from my mind. But then there is a recognition that it wasn’t created by my mind and a great comfort that my asking was heard and answered.

But then afterwards it can be easy to kind of forget or let go of or start doubting it again, when the feeling of insight that comes with it has faded, and start thinking that it was just something from my mind and not trust it. Sometimes I think how great it would be to get exact answers to my problems that harass my mind daily, then I sometimes get it in this subtle way, and then start doubting it and go back to the awful confusion of not knowing what I should do.

Reading your experience makes me feel like intensifying my asking for help and trying to do it more from the heart.

Hi Laura I know what you mean about how the mind can come in and really distort things for us and create doubts in our mind and how the mind can send us in circles when the answer is just there, I wish you all the best in finding your way and discovering the truth

Nice Richard. Getting together like that with others can really open up a different experience of things than just our everyday life of us trying on our own.

I think I understood what you mentioned about that insight for what to look into. Sometimes I also get help through my own thoughts, although because of knowing about how full my psyche is with egos, I’m often a bit weary to trust such guidance. Doubting that intuition that felt it was more than just my own thoughts. By the end of the situation or day its become obvious though that that was guidance.

Ha yes Karim if our minds were not so full of constant distractions we would probably see answers coming in all the time, pity we dont see it at the time it takes for us to go through the situations and we dont realise the mistakes until we come out the other side

Thank you Richard for sharing, it sounds like it was a very fruitful gathering for most people who attended. It seems you were able to make a leap during that time, use the group strength, and go deeper into self-observation. I also liked how you kept asking for spiritual help, even with several issues at once, and got the answers to everything you asked for. That sounds very encouraging, and inspires me to ask more for more specific issues.

I’ve also found that getting together like that in nature, with others, to focus on spiritual practise, can really help to move things forward. It sounds like you were able to ‘make the next step’, something I’m reminded we should always be looking for. It’s interesting how you were pointed to the main ego – I found that internal communication can be so very subtle, delicate and really, without rules, that it’s really just best to try to be open and sincere and to find a way to ask and listen as much as possible.

It may well be a cliche, but that feeling of being ‘at one with nature’ is really one of the most beautiful things, and what just inevitably emerges when we pull away the internal blocks between us and the rest of nature.

I also like what you mention about the group-learning. It’s been very clear to me in the past that this goes on, that a theme or group-lesson emerges, but also that group-work has so many benefits. In part it’s the strength of your togetherness, reminding each other of ‘the work’, then it’s the combined effect of your practise that seems to draw in spiritual help, and then there’s the uncomfortableness you inevitably feel when bouncing off eachother’s egos!

As an aside, now I live in a rural place, where people from the city come to for relaxation, the challenge is not letting it become the new dream. It’s been a good lesson that being close to nature in itself isn’t enough to help me break out of the ‘driving force of the mind’, and that the same ‘rush’ and ego-based momentum that you feel so strongly propelling things along in the city, is still inside. Maybe it’s even more obvious now, as I can sense it and feel it’s so out of place with nature and anything spiritual, whereas in the city it just blends in!

Thanks Ella for your comments it was true I felt I sort of went to the next step although the hard thing is keeping going with that same intensity that I had at the retreat, funny enough just reading that article, that I wrote, again has reminded me of the greater efforts I need to be putting in through out the day, also how beneficial that asking for help was in those times something I tend to forgot to do throughout the day and the importance to ask from the heat with strength

It’s great that you were able to gain such valuable insights from that gathering Richard. I’ve also felt how powerful the effects of a united group effort can be, and can relate to what you said about how a learning experience can sometimes be tapped into by a whole group, rather than just one person.