Funny though, I thought the point of feminisim was that women would have the opportunity to pursue serious careers so they would not have to resort to being sex objects, but apparently feminism is more concerned with giving female sexuality an equal or greater role in society than male.

I thought it was a scam at first. But evidently she’s a rising a starlet who just started shooting from last December. Google duke pornstar. Duke found out about it first (duke chronicle) and she justified her feminism inspired porn career on ‘xojane’. She slut shames the male gender yet preys on feminist equality through men. Feminists say they’re about seeking equality for gender-sake in a righteous manner but at the end of the day it’s about money or sex.

Funny though, I thought the point of feminisim was that women would have the opportunity to pursue serious careers so they would not have to resort to being sex objects, but apparently feminism is more concerned with giving female sexuality an equal or greater role in society than male.

That was second generation feminism. Third generation feminism is about freedom of sexual expression. As someone who had to live through second generation feminism, I recommend not complaining about the third generation.

I think feminism is about women having the same choices in life as men and not being judged for those choices. It doesn’t matter whether it’s career or sexuality.

It can apply to men in some cases too. For example some men can benefit from feminism for being able to make a choice to be a stay-at-home dad and not being judged (by both men and women) for that choice.

I think feminism is about women having the same choices in life as men and not being judged for those choices. It doesn’t matter whether it’s career or sexuality.

Feminism means different things depending on what era the feminists were active in. That’s why you see people talking about first/second/third wave feminism. Of course, there’s no reason why feminism shouldn’t mean something different to you than what it meant to your mother or grandmother. The only problem is that it makes it difficult to know what exactly people are advocating for or criticizing.

I think even the most ardent right-wingers would be sympathetic to the concerns of first-wave feminists who were largely concerned with getting the government to accept women’s rights. However, even second-wave feminists weren’t necessarily saying that women could do whatever they want and not get judged for it. They may have advocated for stronger reproductive rights, but they were more asking for tolerance in taking advantage of those rights than asking that right-wingers accept their decisions.

Note that your comments about not being judged for sexual behavior are essentially Christian. Jesus protected the adultress from getting stoned, the historical version of slut-shaming. However, the difference between the historical and the modern, is that today’s “feminists” (and many of those on the far-left) don’t just want tolerance, don’t just want to not be judged; rather, they want acceptance. And not even just acceptance, but often want the government to pay for their lifestyle (see the Sandra Fluke controversy). Somehow not wanting to pay for some slut’s birth control becomes slut-shaming. Doesn’t really make sense to me.

What bothers me is that this concept exists only for women’s behavior..

A guy picking up a different woman every weekend is NEVER shamed for that behavior.. Hell, for some he is a hero.

That’s not true. After a certain age…right around 24, it becomes increasingly sad to have that buddy that does nothing but brag about how many women he’s slept with. He’s the one that’s out until closing, picking up whatever woman can still stand up.

When guys are 16-22 getting laid as often as possible is an achievement. Shortly after college it starts to get sad and then you realize your buddy just has major self esteem issues.

4) More slutty behavior is bad, thus the government shouldn’t compel health plans to provide contraception

Item 4 just really doesn’t follow from the above. If forcing health insurance plans to provide contraception leads to fewer aggregate bad effects of slutty behavior, even while increasing slutty behavior, then it could be a good thing. Further, aren’t guys like Rush be worried about poor people and liberals having too many children. Woudln’t they prefer these groups take advantage of such programs so that over the long-run the population changes?

My problem with Sandra Fluke was more 1) law school students complaining about being too poor for contraception is ridiculous from a life cycle consumption perspective and 2) it makes far more sense as an addition to welfare programs than to screw with private insurance more than they already have.

When guys are 16-22 getting laid as often as possible is an achievement.

I was referring to early age as well; since later people tend pair off/get married.

But still women simply do not get this “16 to 22” window when they can openly “saw their oats” without being judged. They do not. They either have to do it discretely, or be labeled the infamous s word.

When guys are 16-22 getting laid as often as possible is an achievement.

I was referring to early age as well; since later people tend pair off/get married.

But still women simply do not get this “16 to 22” window when they can openly “saw their oats” without being judged. They do not. They either have to do it discretely, or be labeled the infamous s word.

I agree to an extent. First off, I think women are worse at shaming other women than guys are. Secondly, it all depends on how the girl goes about it. I mean, there’s nothing wrong with hooking up with a handful of guys over the course of a semester. Just don’t go through a quarter of a frat house.

Actually, I had a comedy routine about how most of the slut shaming was actually women criticizing other women.

The premise was that when a woman says “slut,” it sounds sharp, like a knife cutting into flesh (“slUT”). When men talk about a slut, it’s warmer (“SLut”), almost with admiration. Because it feels to us that a slut is someone who understands our needs and cares about what we want. I’d then go through a bunch of imitations of situations where the word comes up. It was well liked, but never fully developed.

The one exception of course is the guy who’s been cheated on, and then, of course, he uses it as an insult in anger.

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But yeah, if it’s so great for men to sleep with a lot of women, I don’t think it is *necessarily* so bad if women want to sleep with a lot of men. Some people say (correctly, I think), “A slut isn’t a woman who simply likes to have sex; a slut is a woman who doesn’t know how to choose.”

I think for both women and men, the judgement one makes is not so much about the quantity of sex one has, but whether one has taste and standards in who your partners are for such an intimate act.