Pollies and Liberals (are they the same thing?) hate this board. Why,
you ask? Because they hate that "us doomers" can share information we
find that we think might be of interest to the others here. They also
hate it that here is a place that is not controlled by a news media
outlet. They cannot stand it that here is a contrarian group with
news that is up to the minute as well as grassroots reporting.
Remember in November and December and the grocery store reports?
There is no way we could have gotten that news anywhere but here.

I think it is telling that pollies and trolls just can't leave this
place alone to the people who want to exchange news and opinions here.

ps. There IS room for pollies and liberals who can have an intelligent
discussion. There is no room for dummies who just want to pick fights
here in the hopes that they can drive as many folks as possible away.

Yes, this board has many many people who are concerned with the
direction that this country has taken. I am one of them.

If you don't like it here, then please do yourself and all of us a big
favor. Flake off.

>> Pollies and Liberals (are they the same thing?) hate this board.
Why, you ask? <<

No, "Pollies and Liberals" are not the same thing. Further, you are
making an unwarranted assumption that many of the regulars on TB2000
aren't liberals. Some would be happy to acknowledge that label.

Lastly, if all you know about liberals is what Rush Limbaugh and
limbaugh-wannabes like Ollie North tell you about them, then it's time
you got out of that cramped little nook and found out more about
reality.

There's nothing about liberalism that requires one to believe that the
world is just a Happy Meal away from reaching perfection. In my
family, liberalism has always been about struggling to make society a
slightly better-ordered and gentler place, in spite of the pain and
chaos. And about not accepting defeat when you don't succeed. Both
foresight and prudence have a place in that philosophy.

Rant on.

Damn! I get so *tired* of Tory fools defining one of the great
traditions of western civilization down into some mock-Disney cartoon
version of politics that says far more about the smallness of their
minds and the meagerness of their education than it does about
liberalism. I say, if you want to tell me what liberalism is, you had
better be prepared to live it first.

Gotta laugh! I am not a member of any organization! I'm allegic to
them, even though I can see how useful they are in society and how
useless an isolated individual tends to be. I'm just a born
curmudgeon.