Hi! I’m Susan Sarandon and I’d like to speak to you on behalf of the CAI Foundation.

For those of you unfamiliar with CAI, it’s the newest, most terribly frightening disease. It’s Cranial-Anal Inversion, and it’s affecting mill, um, thous, um hund, er, dozens of, um, well right now it’s actually only affecting a couple of people in the Los Angeles Dodgers organization, but those of us who care want to get this nipped in the butt, er bud before it spreads to the general public.

With me is Ned Colletti, General Manager of the Los Angeles Dodgers and one of those unfortunate people who have been stricken with this terrifying new disease. Ned, could you give us an insight as to how dibilitating this can be?

“mphhmpdff, mphrmgsff mff mmphufff……”

Thank you, Ned! Please give generously. We need to halt this in its tracks.

I really do like this lineup. This might actually work🙂 And what do you know, Ethier in with a lefty pitching. I thought he would sit just for old times sake, but Torre’s actually giving him a chance.
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jnv – I am assuming the fires in the Big Sur/Monterey/Santa Cruz area are worse because of the wind they get from the coast, alot like those that suffer the same thing down in so-cal. My son has a tournament in Salinas/Monterey the weekend after next so I guess we will be able to see for ourselves.

One of the horrible symptoms of CAI is that those who have it have no brains to begin with, e. That’s what enables the cranium to be inserted. If the brains are still there, CAI cannot take hold. Tsk, tsk.

I like this line-up and I like Ethier in the 7th spot. He’s more productive there. He doesn’t get a chance in the 2nd spot as Slappy was never on base that much and the 7th 8th and 9th place hitters haven’t been on for him to hit behind, when he’s hitting in the 2 hole.

This line-up might actually produce and score more than a couple of runs which is sorely needed. I will have to watch MLB.TV late as I can’t watch the game at the regular time. I want to turn on the game and see some action tonight so you guys get us some runs.

I believe that is what is driving those fires along with the water drought. And there are so many fires the firemen are letting the fires in the isolated areas just burn and are focusing their attention on the populated areas.

Good point, scurtis. Kemp destroys lefties for the most part with troubles against righty breaking stuff.

Here’s some typical Torre talking out his **** about who will lead off:

With Pierre and Kemp out, Torre started Jason Repko in center field and batted him leadoff. He said he might do that again Tuesday, with the only other leadoff alternative being switch-hitting Delwyn Young.

YEA, my Matthew is leading off!! He needs to work on no striking out as often and then he’ll be awesome. Can some one give me a wrap up of las t night game? I was out😦 sadly and had to catch the scores on my cell phone.

Boblee – you are so right!! Ethier is a doubles hitter and how can he drive in runs sitting at the top. And then you have the chance he hits one out too. I am so with you on this one, even though you are a Cowboys fan (jk). I do think, however, they had him in the 2 hole because of his patience (well he had patience until this group got a hold of him).

I would like to have seen Repko in again tonight. He had a bad night just like Slappy had just about every night, why doesn’t he get a chance?? I mean the guy had to fly to Texas yesterday after being called up for the first time this year, I am sure there were butterflies and nerves. And since when does Torre sit a guy after going 0-5??? I thought guys only sat after they hit HR’s and went 4-4???? Is this part of the CAI again????

Amy – definitely looking forward to Matt leading just to see what somebody else could have been doing all along. Good to see you back 🙂
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jnv – there are so many firefighters here in town, it feels like it should be a firefighters convention. I guess they have run out of hotel rooms in Mariposa and Oakhurst that the next spot is Merced. I am assuming Fresno is being used too, but still may be a little far for some areas.

Torre is such a worthless F*** coming to the National League. He doesn’t know his own players because he can’t relate to all the younger guys on our team, and he doesn’t know Schidt about any of our competition in the league. Strictly a poster boy to suit Frank’s delusions of grandeur and stupid enough in his antiquated baseball knowledge to suit Ned.

Amy – the game wasn’t good – lost 4-1 with many chances to score but couldn’t pull it off. Matt was out because of eye infection and that’s about it.
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The two most offensively deficient teams go toe to toe in a battle of the bats.
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The above statement was from the rox website so I guess we can feel okay that they were referring to themselves and SD. Seriously, some teams are going through exactly the same issues. It really will come down to who can put their pitching and hitting together first, and that will determine who wins this division.

scott@whittiermailing It’s actually Slappy Mc popout. All it took for Joe to try something different was to have his little Juan taken away. I hope this line up produces, I doubt it couldn’t be worse than what we’ve been subjected to since Raffy left.

Dnel I am surprised as well, but I would like to have seen Repko in instead of DY just to see what he can do, I don’t think yesterday was a good look at him considering what I stated above.
Eric that is a pretty line up, except for Dre hitting 8th. He’s to good to be hitting that far down in the line up.

jnv – I would have liked to see Repko, Kemp and Ethier. I pulled for Repko all last night and it was pretty upsetting to read in the media how some reporters treated him knowing he had just been brought up. He took it in stride though and said he felt he was just too anxious. Statistically, Ethier best spot has been 5th this year, but he has had some good days in the 7th hole too. I could see him batting 8th because they would have to pitch to him, especially if he leads off an inning or with 1 out because you are not going to go around him only to get to Furcal a batter later. The only time it doesn’t benefit Ethier is with men on and two outs – they will walk him to get to pitcher. With maza and berroa in the 8th slot now -who’s afraid of them.?

That is so true, our 8th hole has been exactly that…. A hole for some time now. Hopefully when Furk gets back and the “Fridge” comes back we can get something going. I hope Jones can find his swing and come back and provide the thump we need. I don’t care if he bats .222 like last year as long as the balls he hits go over the fence!!

It looks like a lineup that should draw less complaints from the groundhogs.
But whatever the lineup- it’s what they do against tonight’s man of the night Wandy Rodriguez.
It would be great for Kershaw to get his first win in his hometown tonight.
Whatever -it’s time to score some runs.
LET’S GO YA BUMS!!!!

When I heard about what happened to you, it makes you wonder if he is okay. I don’t remember reading that he was going anywhere for an extended period of time, and the fact that enchanted doesn’t know either is a little scary. He was gone for a day or two a week or so, and he was off a few days because of bad weather so I’m hoping for the best that it is something like that. Maybe eric has some insight.

Sorry to say, but it doesn’t appear the Dodgers will be represented in the All Star game. Not enough fans went online to vote, or didn’t vote enough times. It’s unfair if Martin doesn’t get in. He’s better than the leading vote getters by leaps & bounds!
Aside from that, I’m rooting for Kershaw to get his 1st ML win in his home state.

I agree. Russell is an outstanding catcher and overall ball player. I dunno, there was so much excitement and buzz over voting last year that the fans got so into it. This year it seems like there is no hype and that ppl don’t care as much. The fact that Martin is not even in the top 5 is ridiculous. Anyway, I know that I voted for him my max amount.

jj – only the starters for each league are picked by the fans. The rest of the team and the pitchers are picked by the coaches. Every team has to be represented, so Russ will be there for the Ds, and he’s only deserving one IMO.

I agree. Kersh isn’t ready for the bigs. He should be in the minors strengthening his arm and building up innings. Right now he’s a bit of a sideshow for Frank to bring in somemore fans to the stadium. The kid’s probably going to be great, just not now.

I just got online so good morning from Down Under.. nice to see we started well … and I agree enchanted .. Kershaw will be good but he’s up too soon for me as well. This is not a great ball park for him with that short porch in Left but it’s great to watch his development.

“scored a run in every inning but the 2nd…”
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Russell is just amaaaazing, like always.
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Andre slapping Torre in the face by getting hits with lefties. What now Torre? Tell me Pierre boy can do better.
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Kershaw is doing good for his homestate! & Loney too. Way to make them proud =)
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Such a good lineup tonight although there could be a few switches.. BUT not complaining AT ALL as long as Pierre is not in it, we’re good to go =)

Ethier is not going ANYWHERE so get over it, go think of other players to pick on that deserve it.
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Or if he is going anywhere it’s to a team who would appreciate everything he’s got going for him. Which I hope doesn’t happen for awhile cus then I’m going to have some frequent flyer miles to rack up.

I think this was actually one of the better games for Kershaw. He might not have given up those last two runs if he was left in. He only had two walks vs. 4 K’s tonight. I do agree that he doesn’t seem as ready for the majors, as some think, and I’m concerned that he’s not getting the close attention coaching that he would get from somebody other than Honeycutt. But, overall, I can’t disagree about keeping him with the club for the rest of the year, and I hope he continues to progress.

Eduardo, which “proven hitter” would you like that would’nt cost 2 or 3 of our young, frontline players? All so we can lose in the first round of the playoffs? As a lot of us have said all season, look to the future; play the kids and see who can play and who can’t and make moves accordingly….Furcal has sure had horrible luck in his walk year. We’ve likely seen the last of him this year. The D’s might want to consider bringing up DeJesus up to get an idea of what he can do. I agree that Hu and Maza aren’t the answer.

We really need this game. I don’t want another night of reading how the young players didn’t do enough to get the win and get blamed for something that isn’t their fault, but the fault of our managers.

Nelly, his post and mine must have crossed in cyberspace. Bad idea. It’s a trade within the division. He can walk in year and a half and yes, you do tend to wonder why they’re willing to deal…. Ah, S###t, tie game. Sorry, Kersh.

Torre really screwed up that inning. Kuo should have been left in. This happens everytime Broxton comes in with runners on in the 7th. He obviously doesn’t pitch well in that situation and then to make him even more uncomfortable by making him throw 4 balls to Berkman threw him off even more.

With a 6 – 1 lead, I’m going to fault Torre for giving this game away as much as the failed relievers. I think he was a batter or two early in taking out Kersh and the same with Kuo, who has been quite effective. But Torre knows his staff better, so we can probably chalk up a loss even when we score 6. Just great, JoJo.

but of course it’s not Torre’s fault.
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It’s going to be DY for not catching that ball & Andre’s for almost getting it but missing the homerun ball..
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And of course we’re probably going to hear something along the lines of IF PIERRE was in LF today that play woulda been owned by him…. but of course we all know his flimpsy arms probably couldnt even reach up that high let alone if he’d even run that far back for the ball..
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Sucks so bad for Kershaw, way to screeeeeeeeww screw screw it up for him. His whole family was in the stands and standing & clapping when they retired him… it would be nice to win this game & give Kershaw his win!
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torre made all the wrong decisions with the pitching staff today.. pulled kershaw too early. pulled kuo to early. i know i’m just repeating what you all said, but it’s true. so it needs to be repeated. if we lose, this one goes on the manager.

And now the hitting will go in the tank because they can’t handle the pressure. Someone needs to grab this team by the cajones and squeeze. There’s no fire, only a bunch of deer in the headlights. At some point these kids have to get mad and play with a chip on their shoulder.

lol pulling Kershaw was the right move he had 20+ something pitches and his pitch count was 90 and if Grady left him in and he gave up a 3 runs homerun everyone would be on Grady head to have him fire.

And now the hitting will go in the tank because they can’t handle the pressure. Someone needs to grab this team by the cajones and squeeze. There’s no fire, only a bunch of deer in the headlights. At some point these kids have to get mad and play with a chip on their shoulder.

Throw out that one really bad outing by Brox a few weeks ago and he’s pitched just about the same as always. He’s just no good unless he can start off an inning. Probably not going to be the closer we’re all hoping for after Saito goes.

shad, i say let kershaw handle his own problems for once. 2 on, 2 out, let him finish the inning to make his own mistakes. he may have given up a three run homer, but he also may have gotten the out. but we’ll never know, and the three run bomb was hit anyway..

Sweeney coulda got lucky there if they missed that catch…. & then if Andre got us the out cus all the pressure is all on him… all the negativity would focus on him instead of Sweeney. Glad Sweeney is going for the .50 mark

they just sayd that since Pierre is going to be on the DL for 4-6 weeks Dodgers are looking for a lead off hitter… ARE YOU F*CKN serious? ew, can’t believe anyone would think he’d make a good lead off..
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Good one for Maza…

shad, i say let kershaw handle his own problems for once. 2 on, 2 out, let him finish the inning to make his own mistakes. he may have given up a three run homer, but he also may have gotten the out. but we’ll never know, and the three run bomb was hit anyway..

I agree on that one but I don’t want to see him on accident get hurt and last year didn’t Hughes get hurt last year when he got hit by the ball and was on the DL the next day. We do have to remember he’s only 20 yrs old.

We really are as a team hitting the ball well tonight. Kemp, Martin, Kent, Loney, Ethier and Maza have all got at least one hit with either an RBI or a run to go with it. There’s nothing to be ashamed of on their parts tonight. 🙂

First of all I want to thank Super Hero Josh Rawitch For Lettting us know that Our Beloved Year 2008 Team Of Destiny to be Crowned World Champions Los Angeles Dodgers were The Fifth Team to win a game without The Benefit of a Hit! Josh, You certainly are a Super Phenomenal Whirlwind Of Baseball Information!I

We think some of our guys are struggling – Justin Upton, one of young players from the dbacks went 1-4 today and is now batting .236. He was above .300 a month ago. So, our guys could be a lot worse off, so hopefully they stay within themselves and they will pull out of this.

shad, Justin is on my fantasy team and he was doing so well and then crashed. I also have Conner Jackson and Mark Reynolds too. Actually James is my 1st baseman, Jackson is backup, and Reynolds is my 3rd baseman – Dodgers weren’t set at 3rd yet. I also have Chris Snyder the catcher who just went on DL.

I was using Connor when Loney was going through his slump, but now I kind of go back and forth. Mark Reynolds has been great for me too. My outfield is Ethier, Kemp and Upton which when they are all playing do very well for me.
I have Atlanta pitching which runs hot and cold. I also have Jhonny Peralta for my SS and Mark Ellis is my 2nd baseman – love both of them – multi-tooled.

wow i cant belive this ANRUW JONES 3-3 tonight i dont know if that will mean he will come up here and do great but it does seem like he’s impoving he also hit a home run yesterday things are going up for ANRUW as for FURCAL big dissapointment he had a hurt back again today we are really gonna miss him..

Figured when I read the comments here there would be plenty of hate crimes directed at Torre. I won’t profess superior knowledge…after all, hindsight IS perfect, 20-20 as they say. But when Torre pulled Kershaw with 2 outs I was livid. The TV told the story of how tough Kershaw is with runners in scoring position. And he’d just induced a weak a** grounder back to the box. You think Torre would have lifted Lowe or Penny? No, he’d have given them the “veteran’s benefit of the doubt.” I guarantee if he’d pulled Penny in that situation and a guy two or three days removed from AAA gave up the HR, pasting two more earned runs onto his precious stats (not to mention game-swinging momentum) Penny probably would have gone Chacon on Torre. Just another example of Torre not trusting the kids. I’m sure Joe will spin it that the kid had thrown enough pitches (sorry, only 90) or that he didn’t want to shatter his confidence with a loss (sorry, 5 run lead) or whatever…. COME ON, JOE, GO WITH YOUR BEST! And in the 6th inning, that would have been Kershaw…not Falkenborg.

Peralta has been very good for me lately even when indians played us. He had17 points yesterday and 7 points today. Mark Ellis had 10 points today. Mark Reynolds has gotten the most points for my team so far for the year.

I think Furcal is toast…I’ll bet they recommend surgery sooner than later. And when Nomar tweaks his calf in the next week or two playing shortstop, we’ll be looking at Berroa and Maza for the long haul.

LOL! Thank you eric – I was a little worried after hearing about jnv being in the hospital. I knew that if enchanted didn’t know anything – you might. That’s good to hear – it’s weird how the parent instinct kicks in like that 🙂 sigh….
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The game certainly was eventful – we managed to send their catcher to the hospital after losing their pitcher last night, and we caused a collision in their outfield tonight too. If anything, we banged them up a little bit. And,yes, it was good to see Jeff come through and get one for us. The young players all did really well hitting the ball today. Most of our core got at least one hit with either an RBI or run scored. It was a good hitting night 🙂

I wouldn’t mind if Dewitt played his natural position at SS so we can keep Dewitt and LaRoche bat in there all the time. When LaRoche need rest we can always played Martin at 3rd and Ardoin can catch. I’m glad Martin is eligibity at 3rd base and it look weird to have him played there for me but never had the chance to do it because I always have one catcher on my team.

ndeschenes – thank you for your posts tonight. This game must have left you speechless like I am sure some of us still are. Most of us had pretty much figured we wouldn’t be hearing from you at all after the 7th inning. Luckily Jeff had one extra hit in him tonight. Take care and hopefully our beloved Dodgers will win for us tomorrow. Have a wonderful evening and a fabulous tomorrow 🙂

i had to split for a softball game, and as i listened on the radio during my drive i heard the call on kent’s homer! yeah kent! that is clutch~ it was exciting.. at first i was worried that steiner was over-exaggerating (as he tends to do) and that it would be caught, but then he said it went out.. and i was yelling in my car! i’m sure it looked silly 🙂

Isn’t it amazing that in every aspect of life, this kind of management wouldn’t be tolerated. And to think these people are getting paid thousands and millions of dollars to do that same thing that most of us are called on to do just because it is our job and it’s usually not worth what we are getting paid.

My guess is it’s not minor. Why would he go back to LA if it was minor? He has a bulging disc in his lumbar spine. It’s a debilitating injury. (look up the word: debilitate) I’ve been around x-ray facilities and have seen many injuries of this type and have seen their follow-ups. They usually don’t go very well. Sometimes they have ended Major League careers depending how severe they are. Remember, this is the second time Furcal has injured the SAME area and, he did it only eight months apart from one another.

Now, I’m not an expert on the subject but, I do know a few things having been in the field before. The fact that he’s played a few games after this latest injury is amazing. He probably has what is called a “lumbar disc hernia”. Ask your doctor what that means. He’ll tell you it’s no fun at all. It’s basically a “popped” bulging disc… this is bad, bad, bad. He probably had a bulging disc before and maybe it popped from all those spectacular diving stops and amazing twisting throws that he made.

If after all this latest rehab he’s been on doesn’t work, he’ll probably have to eventually have the surgery. It involves shaving the herniated/bulged portion of the disc to relieve the impingement of the nerve that’s causing him the pain. The rehab isn’t very comfortable.

So if after surgery and a new round of rehab, even by next spring, he may only be a shell of his former self. Then it may be career over. He’ll be lucky to just enjoy life pain free. I’m not exaggerating this… really. People think this is something he can just take a pill with or do core strengthening exercises with or whatever and then he’ll be okay. I only wish this were the case.

Again, I’m no expert, but this is the worst-case scenario and could likely happen. It’s heading in that direction.

kpookiemon – I think that is the first time I have seen anything negative said about our vets in a long time. It’s kind of sad we a sharing company with our rivals, the gnats. This should make for an interesting match up this weekend. 🙂

Besides all the birthdays noted, it was also Honeycutt’s bday on 6/29.
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Great win Boys in Blue! Yes, it would have been great to have Kershaw get his first win but the kid can handle it. A friend told his mom is a teacher.
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Also our super-man Jeff Kent came thru! Woohoo! Jeff also has his family in Texas (Austin). He said he had a lot of people there and he was waiving at someone after he rounded the bases. I have Jeff in both my teams from Diamondsforwomen and InsideDodgerblog. I am in the battle of the top 2 in both leagues this week. Good luck Scott🙂. On the DFW, I was debunked from 1st by a Ray’s fan. Well, good luck to her also (Batting Lashes).
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kssparkuhl,
That sure is bad news on Raffy. Is such a shame. There are just too many injuries happening on this team. It just seems like a curse.
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Not surprise that we get a D minus on that midterm report posted.

BTW… I’m not about to check 420 posts tonight… but am I the only one who noticed that Andy LaRoche was swinging at some seriously HIGH pitches tonight???

I mean, he wonders why he’s not hitting in the big leagues after three years? It’s because he offers at pitches like that! All night long! The guy hits AAA pitching like they were little leaguers, yet he comes to the bigs and can’t seem to find the handle.

And would somebody please fill Joe Torre in on the fact that Blake DeWitt has a .288 average against left handed pitching?

With Furcal apparently out for the season, it’s time for us to get serious about a shortstop.
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Someone mentioned using Blake DeWitt at short. As a gap-filler until Furcal came back I like the idea. But as a long-term solution the idea is a non-starter.
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Obviously, Maza and Berroa are not the answer ever, and Hu isn’t the answer this year. DeJesus has played less than 200 professional games and in reality probably isn’t any more ready than Hu. Gotta give the kids a chance to develop. (Obviously not as long as certian managerial types insist on, but some time).
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That means we need to look around the existing major league shortstops to see:
1) Who’s available?
2) Who among those is a good shortstop?
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We can start by eliminating pretty much any starting shortstop on a contending team; contenders don’t trade away shortstops.
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That leaves starters from: Washington (Cristian Guzman), Houston (Tejada), Cincinatti (Keppinger/Hairston), Pittsburgh (Jack Wilson), Baltimore (Nobody), Toronto (Eckstein), Kansas City (Mike Aviles), Cleveland (Jhonny Peralta), and Seattle (Yuniesky Betancourt). I could eliminate half the NL West too but until somebody starts playing like a champ, it’s still anybody’s division.
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Any decent backups available? Arguably the Angels could let Maicer Izturis or Erick Aybar go.
That’s about it.

Not worth considering: Aviles, Eckstein
Not likely to be available due to small contract/young age: Betancourt, Izturis, Aybar, Keppinger, and Peralta
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That leaves Cristian Guzman, Miguel Tejada, Jerry Hairston Jr., and Jack Wilson. We need to go after one of these four guys.
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Tejada is clearly the best of these, and by far the most expensive at $13 million/yr thru 2009.
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Guzman has been a pretty good player most of the time in his career. Due $4.2 million/yr thru 2009. Injured much of last year and seems unable to play a full season.
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Jerry Hairston Jr. is only any good by comparison to Berroa and Maza. Less than $1 million/yr and worth it.
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Jack Wilson is a good-fielding shortstop with below-average but respectable offensive numbers. He’s hitting .313 so far this year but on balance over the last several years he can be expected to hit around .270 -.300 for the balance of this year. Good for about 40 extra-base hits a year. Way overpaid at about $7 million/year.
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Tejada would be a nice pickup, but expensive especially in terms of the personnel we would have to send back to Houston. I imagine they would want something like Kershaw, LaRoche, and Hu.
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Guzman would be a good pickup to fill the gap until Hu/DeJesus is ready. Would probably cost something like LaRoche and two pretty good prospects.
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Hairston is barely off my list of “Not Worth Considering”. Could be as cheap as one very good or two good prospects.
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Jack Wilson, like Guzman, would fill the gap nicely until Hu/DeJesus is ready. Could probably be had for relatively cheap because I gotta believe the Pirates want to unload his contract although the contract price may be somewhat mitigated by his popularity with Pirates fans. He could maybe be had for one very good prospect and a couple of decent prospects.
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Anyway, we MUST do SOMETHING at shortstop. The in-house answers (with the possible but unlikely exception of DeJesus) are a major drag on our team.
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Of course I personally favor local product Jack Wilson (Westlake Village), a three-time nominee for the Roberto Clemente service award (See here: http://tinyurl.com/58yazo) and a guy who plays the game 110% the right way.

“Playing with the enthusiasm with our younger kids later in the game, sometimes that’s neat,” Kent said.

As he talked, Kent’s three young sons, who live in Texas, raced around the clubhouse, which might have reminded Kent of his teammates.

“As the game wears on, gets past the ninth, you see some of these guys in here with more intensity,” he said with a smile. “Reminds me of the days I used to have that too.”
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Other than the middle comment about his kids acting like some of the players on the team, this is one of the most positive things that Kent has said about his teammates in a long time. It sounds like there was a glimpse of Jeff actually having fun playing the game.

I agree with kssparkuhl’s dire assessment about Furcal’s condition, and I have suspected all along that nothing short of surgery would fix the problem. Even then the outcome is uncertain at best. Since he’s in the last year of his contract, it’s understandable that we don’t want to foot the bill for that surgery with no benefit to the team at the end. If reasonable minds prevailed, they should extend Furcal’s contract for an additional year at no additional pay, but maybe with some incentives added, let Furcal have his surgery immediately at our expense, and see how his recovery and rehabilitation fares for next season. Then at the end of next season he can have his free agency. In the absence of some solution such as that, I don’t see how anything will result either to our benefit or to Raffy’s. Of course, Boras may not agree.

In the meantime, I don’t see that there is help for us at shortstop through trade or free agency. Even though DeJesus has limited professional experience, I understand that he’s good defensively, and he conceivably could hit better than .250 with the Dodgers. So, I don’t see what’s to lose. We certainly need to get rid of Berroa, because even Maza could hit that .250 mark. Let’s also see what Nomar can do at short for fill-in the rest of this season.

I fear Nomore will break again inside of two weeks, but I noticed that Angel Chavez is doing OK at AAA. Berroa just needs to be gone and take Sweeney with him. If those aren’t the two guys cut when Jones and Nomar get back, then there’s something seriously wrong with management.

Good Morning Dodger Blue Fans!
Another nail biting game to say the least, but at least it ended with a win for the Dodgers. I was looking at stats from around our division and our young players are doing pretty good compared to how some of their young counterparts on other divisional teams are doing. So, as long as they keep hanging in there and don’t let the media get a negative hold on them, I think they will do what we know they are capable of doing. Yesterday was hopefully a good turning point for them to not let up and keep up the momentum.
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This song is a continuation of the Pierre/Torre love issue, and it was probably more appropriate for the day after JP went on the DL. However, Torre is probably really missing JP now that there is a very slim to no chance that Furcal is coming back any time soon.
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Song: Torre’s Yesterday
Original Song: Yesterday
by The Beatles
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Yesterday, all Joe’s troubles seemed so far away
Now, it looks as though they’re here to stay
Oh, Joe believes in yesterday
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Suddenly, Juan’s not half the man he used to be
Aybar’s shadow’s hanging over him
Oh, yesterday came suddenly
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Why Juan had to go
Joe won’t know, Stan wouldn’t say
Juan said, “Something’s wrong”
Now Joe longs for yesterday
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Yesterday, baseball was so easy to play
Now Joe needs to play Matt and ‘Dre
Oh, Joe believes in yesterday
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Why Juan had to go
Joe won’t know, Stan wouldn’t say
Juan said, “something’s wrong”
Oh, Joe believes in yesterday
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Yesterday, baseball was so easy to play
Now Joe needs to play Matt and ‘Dre
Oh, Joe believes in yesterday
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To update you on the Astros catcher, Quintero; he was placed on the 15 day DL. The CT scan came back negative, but they are keeping him for observations.

good morning, enchanted !
I’m glad you put that last line in there “Oh wait, there is”. You were starting to think sane again, and you know until they do something that isn’t totally idiotic, they can’t have the title of normal.

enchanted ~just to show you we are not the only ones who think this way. This is from the Blog “Son’s of Steve Garvey” and it is posted by none other than Steve Sax himself. So, we are not the only ones who think Torre has a few screws loose (well alot of ) LOL!!!

Unchosen Alternatives to “Torre’s Stories”

Those of you outside the Los Angeles area don’t get a chance to see the post-game show, “Dodgers Live,” which regularly includes the segment “Torre’s Stories.” Torre’s Stories is a pre-taped segment in which he reflects and pontificates about some of the past highlights of his long baseball career.

Cute name for the segment, right? Well, we at SoSG saw a copy of the memo listing some of the alternatives which were rejected in favor of this nightly segment:

Torre’s Quarries, a live post-game segment in which Torre tries to defend his rock-headed decision to keep going to Mark Sweeney as a pinch-hitter on a nightly basis, despite Sweeney’s microscopic batting average (now .095 and continuing to plummet like a stone). Filled with a lot of stuttering, trite cliches, and slo-mo recaps of Sweeney turning 3-1 pitches into pop-ups to the second baseman.

Torre’s Lorries, in which Torre takes the interviewer through his collection of British motor trucks. Also ties in with Fox’s unyielding NASCAR promotions and interstitials.

Torre’s Gorys, where Torre recaps some of the battle scars he’s amassed during his baseball career. Includes videos from some of his operations, and maybe the occasional annual physical. “Using the whole fist there, doc?”

Torre’s Floories, more of a home-improvement show done as a joint venture with HGTV. Idea becomes shelved when the housing market follows the trajectory of Mark Sweeney’s batting average (see above).

Hey everyone. How’s it been going? Computer went belly up and I had to go out of town Monday so couldn’t get repairs till yesterday. I see alot has been happening while I was out with a virus. LOL!! Thanks for your concern. It is good to be back on line. Wow, it is really strange not having a computer. I see we got our Pierre piano. LOL!!

Here’s another one from Sons of Steve Garvey – see we think like they do, and it doesn’t seem to be a bad thing.
LOL!!

Stan Conte Must Still Work for the Giants

Yes, I’m a conspiracy theorist. But even I was surprised it took me so long to figure this out. Dodger Trainer Stan Conte must still be working for the Giants, as there is no possible way to otherwise explain how the Dodgers’ roster has more holes in it than Mark Sweeney’s bat collection. The signs are right in front of us.

From the Dodgers’ own site, here’s the list of Dodgers that have hit the disabled list in 2008, along with their 2008 salaries (asterisk indicates games missed, though not a formal DL listing):

So, accounting just for the players who have officially hit the disabled list, the Dodgers have had a total of $73M out of the lineup, or roughly 61% of the team’s entire $118M payroll. Accounting for the players who have sat with injuries and NOT hit the official DL, that total goes up to $85M, or 72% of the payroll.

This is simply amazing. Conte is inflicting maladies up and down the Dodgers’ lineup.

Sweet win last night. Bullpen imploded again. That would have been a tough one to let get away. Glad they found a way to pull it out. D-Backs keep losing. All we need is a decent month and we’ll be in first place.

jhall ~ enchanted and eric will be glad you are back – not the same for them I’m sure. We had to rescue enhanted a few times during these last few days due to his continuing desent into the deep end, but once Pierre went on the DL, he has been much better (songs tell the story). He is just trying to figure out our incompetent management team – LOL
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and yes, it sucks not having a computer 🙂

enchanted and eric started the whole love song thing (with many others taking their lead), and it’s pretty amazing how a bunch of guys can come up with some pretty impressive love songs, which happen to be funny as hell LOL!!

jhall – you would have thought we would let up on JP, but it’s actually gotten worse, but way too much fun not to stop. We do have a new blogger on site (Amy) who is a JP fan, but it looks like she is taking it in stride so far. She is a big Matt Kemp fan so we are trying to focus on that aspect instead lol! 🙂

I see where Ferk had another setback. I think he is done for the year. Gonna need the surgery. I’m hoping Nomore can come back and stay healthy. Never thought I would utter those words but Berroaiza makes me ill.

I have to give the Press-Enterprise’s Diamond Leung some credit for pointing this out: “Kemp … entered Tuesday with a .331 on-base percentage that was four points higher than Pierre’s …”
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On the other hand Tony Jackson who wrote a long article in The O.C. Register highlighting Jason Repko’s struggles Monday night as leadoff man and continued to bash Repko in today’s Daily News, had only this to say about Matt Kemp as leadoff man: “Kemp’s .331 on-base percentage and rate of striking out once every 3.8 plate appearances hardly made him an ideal candidate to hit there, but he did begin the day with 16 stolen bases.”
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Jackson did cite a sort-of half-negative quote from Joe Torre, but I’m going to give JoJo a pass on this one because I don’t know if he said it before or after last night’s game.
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Meanwhile, I can’t find any of the newspaper reporters who pointed out this fact: MATT KEMP GOT ON BASE THREE TIMES IN TUESDAY’S GAME. Nor anyone who pointed out that Juan Pierre only got on base three times in a game on four occasions during his 48-game tenure as the leadoff hitter. (This does not take into account getting on base due to error or by forcing anotther guy out. I don’t have enough time to do that kind of research.)

MLK – thanks for pointing that out about Kemp, and they really need to give Repko some time to get adjusted. Come on – look how much time they are giving to Sweeney, but then Repko is not proven vet. Also, I posted the James Loney song twice during last night’s game – he had a great night – #2 play of the day on the caught pop-up bunt.

I guess maybe I might have been a little tired last night and didn’t say it like it really is. (see 11:43 PM) If Furcal has the surgery, IMO, in all likelyhood, his career is finished. He’ll be lucky just to enjoy life pain-free. The common thread among all these types of injuries, the next day, “I couldn’t get out of bed…” or “…my wife had to help me out of bed” or “…the pain was unbearable”, to which Raffy had originally mentioned all of the above. Nerve impingements of this nature suck the life out of even the best of athletes.

It’s kryptonite in the face of Superman and, unfortunately our Superman is Rafael Furcal. I’m afraid his career may be coming to a screeching halt. If he comes back from this, it will be a miracle indeed.

I agree with the above post. We need to start thinking more long term for the remainder of the season with regard to our shortstop position, regardless if Raffy has the surgery or not. He’s being stubborn and it’s not healing that quickly. We can’t wait as long as he can. We miss you Raffy… we need you… but you’re a wounded super-hero. We need to move on without you right now. Get well soon buddy!

The Sweeney situation is really pathetic, and it shows Torre’s intransigence and outright stupidity in keeping up his useless experiment. I can’t really put the blame on Sweeney anymore for not being able to hit, except that he should know better and simply retire. Can anybody imagine JoJo getting away with what’s he’s done with Sweeney in New York? There have to be any number of better alternatives than a pinch hitter at under .100 with the number of AB’s that Sweeney has been given. If he isn’t gone whenever we need to open up a roster spot for anybody else, then clearly Torre should be GONE. Of course, many of us have maintained the latter position for quite a while.

Three is a Magic Number
Original Artist: Schoolhouse Rock
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Three is a magic number,
Yes it is, it’s a magic number.
Somewhere in the Dodger’s mystic trinity
You get three as a magic number.
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A single, a walk, and a roundtripper
Steve Sax and 3-Dog Willie
Tommy’s heart, O’Malley’s brain and The Bison’s body
Give you three as a magic number.
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Three times on-base makes a good leadoff
And can make an offense run
It takes Matt’s wheels to really run
Drive ‘em to distraction
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Every triangle has three corners,
Every triangle has three sides,
No more, no less.
You don’t have to guess.
When it’s three you can see
It’s a magic number.
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A Martin and a Loney joined Matt Kemp
Yes, they did.
Three superstars on one great team
And that’s a magic number.
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3-6-9, 12-15-18, 21-24-27, 30.
3-6-9, 12-15-18, 21-24-27, 30.

Thanks, jhail. I love The Bison and if he keeps leading off like he did last night, let’s go ahead and leave him there for the rest of the year. He’s really a natural 3-hole guy, but that can wait a year.

Regarding Sweeney, it’s also what might’ve been. If JoJo bats anyone instead of Sweeney and they hit at even a .250 clip, what might’ve happened in those games with 9-10 extra hits that Sweeney didn’t get? JoJo’s quick to blame the kids, but he should look in the mirror to see why it is we’re really a sub .500 team.

I also have said this before, but if it takes DFAing guys like Sweeney and Berroa to keep JoJo the Clown from using them, then Ned needs to have his balls drop and do it for the good of the team. Sweeney and Berroa aren’t the future of this team anyway, so why lolligag around?

WE NEED TO TRADE ETHIER ALREADY WHILE HIS VALUE IS STILL HIGH COMMON 269 BATTING AVARAGE AND YOU GUYS THINK HE’S BETTER THEN MATT HOLLIDAY WE NEED MATT HOLLIDAY IN THAT LINEUP ETHIER JUST ISNT CUTTING IT MATT HOLLIDAY IS BATTING 337 WITH A 422 ON BASE PERCENTAGE TRACE ETHIER AND LAROCHE FOR HOLLIDAY WHILE THEIR VALUE IS STILL HIGH RIGHT NOW THEIR VALUE IS DROPPING WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING FAST

Welcome back JHall, glad to see everything back to normal around here.

Eduardosoto…It has been pointed out many times that Holiday is not the masher we are looking for, he doesn’t hit outside of Coors Field.

As for Torre, he is a complete TOOL!!! why would he take out Kersh in the sixth when everyone knows he is nails with runners in scoring postion??? And Falkenborg is a never has been vet…..Oh I just answered my own question!!! LOL

eduardosoto, the rockies will not trade their franchise player within the division, especially for a couple of guys who have underperformed this year. has anybody heard about ethan martin’s status with the dodgers? i haven’t seen that we’ve signed him yet😦

Good morning ITD boys and girls…
IT’S GREAT TO SEE YOU BACK JHALL!!! WE’VE ALL MISSED YOU!!!

magic asked the question yesterday, “Who gets send down tomorrow when kuroda is activated?” I haven’t heard; does anyone know? I mean, Kuroda was on the DL and, thus, someone had to have taken his place on the roster when he originally went down, right? So now that he’s coming back up, who is going down?

Kpookiemon, that midterm report card article is very telling. Telling that the Dodgers still have a lot to do…

About Broxton, he does NOT do well coming into a game in the middle of an inning. If Torre would just stick with bringing him in at the top of an inning, then he’s better. Beimel is better candidate to come into a game in the middle of an inning.

MLK, I’ve been thinking about a replacement SS now that Raffy is down and I’m with everyone else here, down for the rest of the year if not for his career. You had your compelling names that could be picked up. Actually, my vote is for Tejada. Yes, he’d be expensive but the amount of $ that the Dodgers need to shed to bring anyone in doesn’t seem to faze them; I don’t think they would flinch at Tejada’s $ price tag. After Quintero went down yesterday (and oh, I feel sooooo bad for him right now) Charlie & Lyons said (and I’m paraphrasing here), “So who’s going to be their (Houston’s) catcher, long term?” I know Houston needs a young catcher (and no, I’m not talking about Russ Martin). But Lucas May might be a possibility. He’s young (only 23) and he’s a good catcher, from what I understand. If May stayed within the Dodger’s organization, he would never play since Russ is here to stay and he’s still young too. I think Houston also could use relief pitchers. We could include Falkenborg in the package. I don’t think we want to part with Wade. He’s the type of pitcher that the Dodgers don’t have many of; a pitcher that’s not afraid of going inside to hitters. Yes, I also think this kind of trade would need to include another one of our younger players, perhaps one that is in the majors now, but I say if that player (and no, I don’t want to think of who that is right now) is playing in a defensive position that there would be a good backup from AAA, then I would still do it.

No, Tejada is no lead-off hitter, so that would need to be addressed, but not by trading anyone; just shuffle the lineup a bit. I wouldn’t mind seeing Loney in the top spot – he still hits for a good average. Although Matty didn’t do too badly yesterday. That’s my take, IMHO.

I think if Kemp, Loney, Dewitt, Brox, Kersh, Bills, Martin or Ethier are traded There will be anarchy, Not to mention completely stupid!! there is no one out there that is worth giving up the future for.

Duh, certainly he is valuable at the deadline. There are scads of players that are valuable at the deadline and would get interest from the aforementioned list of usual suspects. That doesn’t mean it makes sense or that the asking price will be reasonable.

thx jhall! I’m no expert but something must be done long-term with SS. Forget Raffy’s injury and how long will it take him to recover (if he ever does). It’s his contract year and I really don’t see the Dodgers resigning him after 2008. So SS would need to be addressed anyways. His injury is just pushing it up a few months. And enchanted, I hope you’re kidding me about Berroa being Ned’s answer to our SS problem.

And, yes, I do see the Rox making a run in this division. The Pads have been out of it for a long time. The gnats are doing slightly better in the division than I thought, but I think that’s more because the snakes and the D’s (up to now) haven’t run away with the division.

He is great all around, but is not great outside Coors Field. With Dodger Stadium being a pitcher’s park, Andre is still pretty close to Holliday. Only 3 less homeruns, 7 less RBI, 10 less K’s. And Andre is in and out of the lineup so often, how can he get any consistency? I agree Holliday would be a great pickup, but at what price? And that would then leave us with an outfield of Pierre, Andruw, and Holliday. Do you leave Kemp on the bench?

Eduardo, teams like the Angels, Cardinals and Rays would be the types of teams that would go for Holliday because they actually have a chance to win this year and he could put them over the top. We get Holiiday and what do we have?? We have Holliday. This team has many more issues than one person can fix. Even if we play .600 ball the second half of the year, that’s only 87 wins. Good enough for the West? Probably. But no way this team makes it past the first round even with Holliday. Plus Ethier I believe is capable of putting up Dusty Baker type numbers if he plays consistently and isn’t jerked around by JoJo.

No pierre wouldnt start trust me joe torre is stupid but not that stupid to play pierre over kemp and matt holliday is batting 337 and ethier is batting 269 so there is a big difference in avarage and matt has missed his at bats also

I’d stick with Andre!!!! Well said E!!! When Fat Andruw comes back we need to let that scenario play out. Our power outage is what Ned the Furter got him for. Now it is time to produce. If not, well, another of Ned’s blunders. Hopefully Frank will wise up and fire Ned soon.

The Puds and Gnats are done and the Rocks won’t make it either, last year was a miracle and miracles don’t happen to often and the Dbacks are playing horribly. The only one we have to beat is Torre and Ned.

yeah, but we’re saying they can get lucky in the playoffs without holliday just as much as they could with holliday. one player does not make the world of difference, and we’re not close enough to being a good team that we should start trading away parts of the future.

eduardo, i don’t think ned’s trying as hard as you think he is.. remember that he got andruw jones because he felt he was the answer.. and right now, i’m sure he’s all focused on andruw’s rehab numbers because that would be the best option. then he doesn’t have to make another bad decision. i promise they won’t decide do anything until andruw comes back up.

Pretty much any team that gets hot for 3-4 weeks can/will take the division. But with JoJo calling the shots, its like jnv said, we have to beat JoJo AND the other teams in the division, and JoJo’s the bigger of the two obsticals.

I bet after last nights hitting and scoring Torre changes the line up. I mean 7 runs is to much for him, and I am sure Martin didn’t get it last night!!! LOL he probably swung at the wrong pitch when he hit his home run so I am sure he will get a talking to today and Ardoin will play for him…… Just you watch!!!

I read a quote on fox sports.com that frank maccort said that if they have a losing record he will fire ned and I have heard other rumors to about ned might be fired after the season if they dont make the playoffs

this was from the dodgers game story yesterday.. i’m sure russell is fine, and he sure played like he’s fine yesterday.. but it freaked me out that he almost injured himself!! we CANNOT lose russell! i hope it’s not something that would linger, or be worse after the initial day..

It says a lot about Martin’s respect for Kent that he would talk that way after Martin had his ninth home run, a double, single, walk, stolen base, scored three runs and drove in three runs — and all this after suffering a freak pregame injury, hyperextending his left knee playing long toss before batting practice.

“A throw was going over my head, and I turned and outran the ball and slammed on the brakes, and my heel slid on the grass and my knee hyperextended,” said Martin. “It got right to the point of no return with the pain. Any time you hyperextend something, it’s scary, But it ended up fine.”

I got on – thank you enchanted!!!! I sent the same thing to jhall🙂 LMAO!!!!! Thanks for backing up OUR outfield🙂
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eduardo – get over it!!! Go cheer for the Rox!!!!
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hey jnv – jhall made it back!! sigh 🙂
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hey cp/sara – thanks for sticking up for Andre!!!
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I came back from the dentist to no power. I have battery, but computer is running super slow –🙂

The team has been hitting the last 2 games without pathetic Slappy killing them softly with his weak ground outs and pop ups, just didn’t get any “big” hits in the first game is all. After getting 3 hits over 2 games against the Halos, 11 hits in game 1 should have been applauded by the media, but was instead cause for negativity towards Repko and the young guns.

Anyway, go NEW DODGERS!!!

Call me an idiot, but playing SS might just be the best fit for Nomar since he became a Dodger, that is given the uncertainty of Raffy’s return if at all. If, and that’s a big “IF”, Nomar can stay healthy, he can really help us without blocking Andy, Blake or James this time.

If indeed the word is getting around that Ned’s neck is on the line if we don’t make the playoffs, I would like to see Frank take the plunge and get rid of the worthless slick talking bast*** right now. I think that would invigorate the team and certainly us fans, and would let somebody like Logan or Ng take this team forward at the trade deadline to put best accomplishment forward for the rest of the season and for the future. Since Ned is basically a PR guy, besides being a total horse’s ***, Frank can always find him a PR job with one of his charity ventures. Like I’ve said before, can you imagine anybody hiring him as a GM hereafter.

Eduardo, do you have a link to that comment from McCourt.?
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BTW, Tony Jackson said that that was Kent’s 8th HR. It was #9. He and Turtle are tied with 9.
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Here is a story that my friend Lore and her friends (I call them Russell’s chicks) related to me. They had gone to Macy in Glendale to get Milton Bradley’s autograph. While being there they heard that Jeff Kent was at the Macy in Northridge so even though it was late they decided to drive there. Jeff was running late so he had just arrived and was apologizing to everyone for being late and told them that he would sign for everyone that was there and that in addition everyone would get two Dodger vouchers for free tickets. When it was Lore’s turn to get an autograph she was so nervous that Kent noticed it. He told her. “Just relax first.”
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BTw, I talked to Dr. Steinberg and he said he submitted 8/16 to Jamie McCourt for the tentative date for the WIN Women’s baseball clinic. At one of these WIN events is where I met Lore, then I noticed that she and her niece had season tickets a few rows behind me.

Hey! For anybody who was in favor of trading away two or three top young guns last year for Miggy “Piggy” Cabrera last year, take a look at his stats and note that after fielding at a .900 clip with limited range as a 3rd baseman, he’s now a 1st baseman.http://www.baseball-reference.com/compare.cgi?top=/c/cabremi01.shtml
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Cabrera: 82 Games, 304 ABs, 11 HRs, 19 doubles, 1 triple, 48 RBI, 37 runs
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Loney: 83 Games, 307 ABs, 6 HRs, 18 doubles, 4 triples, 42 RBI, 38 Runs
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The main difference between these two is about $11 million in salary and a cost in other players that would be about equivalent to Clayton Kershaw and Andy LaRoche.

Yes, scott, but you have to make that real simple for JoJo first – like eliminate the worst of the lot, such as Sweeney, Proctor and Berroa, so that JoJo doesn’t get confused. His thinking, as we well know, tends to revert to a couple of years ago when he was a real manager, so he can’t recognize Sweeney, Proctor and Berroa for what they are today.

Gotta jump out as quickly as I jumped in. I spent most of my lunch catching up here and copying songs to our site (great work, BTW!).

I just saw an article titled “Highlighting the biggest overachievers of ’08”. Now ordinarily I wouldn’t hit on something that had virtually no chance of talking about one of our boys in blue, but I did it anyway:

“Reds shortstops rank fifth in the majors with a .770 OPS — better than Jimmy Rollins and Derek Jeter, among others. And that number would be even better if the light-hitting Paul Janish hadn’t filled in for two weeks because of a rash of injuries.

Alex Gonzalez, who was supposed to be Cincinnati’s regular shortstop, has missed the entire season with a compression fracture in his knee. Jeff Keppinger filled in brilliantly, then missed 36 games with a broken left kneecap before returning last week.

When the Reds signed Jerry Hairston Jr. to a minor league deal in March, it looked like a case of manager Dusty Baker’s recycling one of his former Cubbie favorites. After Hairston appeared in the Mitchell report for allegedly buying HGH from former Mets clubhouse attendant Kirk Radomski, potential suitors weren’t exactly waiting in line.

But unlike Corey Patterson, who signed with Cincinnati the same day, Hairston has been a major contributor from day one. He’s hitting .331 with 13 stolen bases.

Baker’s biggest challenge at the moment is figuring out where to put everyone. Keppinger has played some short and third, Hairston has appeared at short and center, and it’s become apparent that the manager will have to exercise some ingenuity to keep everyone productive. ”

Doesn’t sound like it would take a Kemp/Kershaw trade to break one of those guys loose. Are they Furcal? No. Are they Barroa? No.

crzblue – I can’t find the article, and that is something I was able to do while not being on here. Still looking though – hmmm!! That news is too big not to be out there and available – wouldn’t you think? Then again, couldn’t find anything he was referring to yesterday, only things that contradicted what he was saying.

my opinion cp – absolutely full of it 🙂 That comment is too big for LA media not to pick up on it and run with it. Look what they do now with the smallest things to blame the young players for everything. I would expect if it was true Tony Jackson would have been all over it by now, or even Jon Weisman over at Dodger Thoughts.

dnel,
there you go again, sounding just like me!🙂 That’s what I thought when I heard that comment; it’s too big a comment for LA media not to say something about it. The way the team is playing (although a bit better lately) there is no way someone in the LA mainstream media doesn’t pickup on that.

eric (I know you are working) – that was an excellent article, and I hadn’t seen that one yet. I agreed with that whole list, especially the top being Oakland pitching. Other than Blanton, the rest of that staff has been rockin’ lately, and I have to admit Jonathon Sanchez is definitely getting it done for the gnats. I think we will have to face him this weekend. The one good thing about this weekend, is that Linsecum pitches Thursday (I consider him their ace right now regardless of what the rotation says). If gnats rotation stays the same, the Dodgers will face Sanchez, Zito and Cain for the weekend series.

CP ~He’s been making comments about trading Ethier or Kemp for Holliday the last two days, so needless to say, I have yet to find anything he has said to have any substance. Yes, Matt Holliday is a great player and has great numbers, but the question that keeps coming to mind is if he is so treasured, then why aren’t the rockies trying to keep him – something is up 🙂 I tend to follow the rockies a little because Brian Fuentes is from Merced and my dad knows his dad. I haven’t read anything on that end that would indicate that the rox want a trade with us. I may be wrong, but I don’t think so. I think he thinks because we are girls and we happen to think our team happens to be handsome on top of being able to play great baseball, we don’t know what we are talking about. Well, he’s messing with the wrong girls on this board. 🙂

yeah dnel,
I’ve read the earlier posts; it is a bit suspicious that he keeps on throwing out a trade for Holliday. I’ve always loved Holliday’s play but no way would I EVER trade Ethier or Kemp for him. Heck, I wouldn’t want to see any of our young players in Colorado. If they would take any of our vets, then I wouldn’t mind the trade, but the only vet worthwhile (that isn’t on the DL) is Kent. I don’t see the Rox doing that either. Plus, even if you do, you’ve gotta have a live body to run out to 2B to replace him. No, there will be no trades for Holliday.

And yes dnel, he is messing with the wrong girls. All the girls on this site KNOW what we’re talking about!

kpookiemon.. we could only wish. before torre was gone, and before girardi was hired, i was hoping we’d get the younger joe because he would fit better with our younger guys.. but alas, we were given the older joe, who fits better with our older guys.. SIGH

All,
don’t forget tonight is James Loney “Before the Bigs”. I am reminding myself also.
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Josh,
I noticed that Bobby Welch was on the field along with the rest of the 70’s boys on Saturday prior to the game but he was not at the luncheon event. I thought it was cute that after he was announced on the field, he headed to Mike Scioscia and gave him a big hug. Will he be at the 80’s luncheon on 8/2? I have a little story why Bobby became one of my favorites back then that I’ll share another time.
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Josh,
The 70’s Luncheon event ended too early. We spent like an hour on the field level seats waiting for the official time for the gates to open so we could go out and then come back in. I know during that time we were being asked if we wanted to sign up for the 80’s luncheon but I think the question and answer session should have been longer. Tommy was the one that said “this is a good time to stop…” At the time it was 4 p.m. The event was advertised to end at 5 p.m. Also, the 1st base restaurant was too small to accomodate all attendees and the lines to the food were very long. I wanted to go back to get dessert but like I said the lines were too long. At the conclusion and as I was leaving, I saw Jerry Reuss standing up eating a hotdog as that seems like it was the only thing left.

kpookiemon – so, what that article pretty much says is that he doesn’t do well in developing young talent – that’s… just… great…. (saying it very, very sarcastically), and what does this team need – a manager who can develop young talent. Nice job in hiring this guy – uuuggghhh!!!

LMAO!!! is this what you call work, enchanted? LMAO!!!
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scott -that needs to be a daily posting when we start seeing Joe prance Andruw and Nomar back out there every night, especially if they come back worse than when they left.

Dnel,
tickets are $75 but they do include a ticket to the game in the Reserved section. If you want Loge then is a little more. Also you get to go to the stadium early so you don’t pay for parking. They will direct you where to park. Once is over it should be close to BP. We stayed in the left field sitting in the shade being surpervised by ushers so we would not be asking the boys for baseballs or talking with them or asking for autographs.

jnv – LMAO!!! Well, I married a gnats fan – so what does that tell you? Absolutely crazy sometimes!!! The theory fits so well, it’s scary – once again, I have watched too many episodes of the Sopranos. My husband believes it too because why on earth would the Dodgers hire a former gnat to run the organization, and he has a hey day with Conte and Torre now ~ LOL!!!

I know it would be too much to ask to have Kirk Gibson at the 80’s luncheon. He will be at the stadium since we are playing the D’backs but he will be busy getting the team ready for the game. But, but he can be announced on the field with the rest of the boys from the 80’s and put on the Dodger uni, right?

I need vets, vets to ease my mind.
I need to sign, sign some bum past their prime.
And Neddy says
You can’t win with kids.
No, they just have to sit.
He said, vets are more seasoned.
They’ll lead our kids and get more hits.

You can’t win with kids.
No, you must play the fakes.
You’ve got to trust the vets in decline.
No matter how long it takes.

But how many losses.
Must we stand, before we play the kids.
That let us win someday.
They are the only thing.
That keeps us hanging on.
When I feel the team, yeah,
Is going young.
I remember Furter said.

You can’t win with kids.
No, they just have to sit.
He says the vets will see us thru.
From the kids at bats they’ll take.
How long must they wait.
How much can the vets skate.
Before ineptitude, will cause the team to tank.

No, I can’t bear to watch Fat Andruw Jones.
I grow impatient for Frank, to send Colletti home.
And when I see Phew,
I can’t go on.
Ned’s ignorant words, I keep gaggin’ on.
I remember Neddy said.

You can’t win with kids.
No, they just have to sit.
The vets are our leaders.
From the kids at bats they’ll take.
You can’t win with kids.
No, they just have to wait.

He said trust the vets in decline.
No matter how the young guys rake.

No wins, wins don’t come easy.
So we keep on failing.
Anticipating, for that old vet
To come thru some night.
For a stronger arm.
And Andre every night.
We keep waiting.
We keep on waiting.
But it ain’t easy.
Cause Neddy says.

You can’t win with kids.
No, they just have to sit.
He said the vets are more seasoned.
They’ll bridge the gap for heavens sake.

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