I just heard of a new one: DF100, which is L11+ and parallel to both P312 and U106. In other words, it is a third division of L11.

It was found in a sample from Kent, England, two from the USA, and in 12 from the Genome of the Netherlands Project.

Richard Rocca announced this news over at Anthrogenica.

This could be very interesting. I agreed with ballardgen's hypothesis that his R-L11* was of Italian origin but from a Langobard descent and this could explain the rarity of R-L11* in Italy and this was a lack in my theory of the Italian Refugium, but I have posted some posts also about very varied Italian R-L11*, and my hypothesis was that these samples were the witness of the most ancient R-L11* from the Italian Refugium. If these "German" R-L11* were actually" R-DF100* and the Italian R-L11+/DF100-, this could be good for me.

One designator we are seeing is the R-CTS4528 one from natgeo2. If anyone can relate this to DF100 that would be very helpful. FtDNA don't appear to recognise R-CTS4528. I tried to contact Chris Tyler Smith to get clarification from him but never heard back.

Also, does anyone have any thoughts on the Morely predictor program (Chris Morley's experimental program that we have been using to look at natgeo2 data). Thus far it seems to be ok but it did appear to place R-CTS4528 under P312 rather than P310* in the PDF copy of his experimental tree.

In the "ht 35 FTDNA Project" there is this only R-L11 and no R-L51, whereas Italy had probably the highest percentage of this haplogroup. I agree that probably R-L11 (but there is the possibility that they are all R-DF100) is linked with Germans, but not that R-L51 and R-L11 came from Armenia. All this could be the witness that the Armenian R-L23 came from the Balkans (and before from Italy) with the first migrations of Indo-Europeans, but the subclades didn't reach the Caucasus.

I agreed with ballardgen's hypothesis that his R-L11* was of Italian origin but from a Langobard descent and this could explain the rarity of R-L11* in Italy and this was a lack in my theory of the Italian Refugium, but I have posted some posts also about very varied Italian R-L11*, and my hypothesis was that these samples were the witness of the most ancient R-L11* from the Italian Refugium.