I still fail to understand why people hate Manning beyond the fact that he is good. I finally got a Patriots fan to admit that he hated him only because he was talented.

Exactly what I've been saying. If he had played for the Titans instead of the Colts he'd have the fanfare/respect of McNair, George, Wycheck, Bishop, Bulluck, etc. all rolled into one, then multiplied by 30.

I have a hard time buying it as not being jealousy. And I really don't see what's wrong with just admitting you're jealous. I have no problem admitting I'm jealous of the Ravens two Super Bowls. They're my most hated team in the league, and that's why.

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