Questions for the Training Industry - iFive Alliances2019-09-15T09:48:56Zhttp://ifivealliances.ning.com/forum/topics/questions-for-the-training?commentId=3234727%3AComment%3A7149&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noBrent, I have been fond of sa…tag:ifivealliances.ning.com,2011-04-07:3234727:Comment:71492011-04-07T02:55:23.302ZPaul Terlemezianhttp://ifivealliances.ning.com/profile/PaulTerlemezian
<p>Brent, I have been fond of saying the following to get a laugh - but I think it is true. CEO's (top executives) make business decisions for three reasons - 1. to make money 2. to save money 3. to stay out of jail (this one usually gets the laugh)</p>
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<p>If training is mandated (by courts or laws or industry standards) then we help the CEO "stay out of jail."</p>
<p>If we are willing to be held accountable for revenue production (i.e. make money) without putting ourselves in jail…</p>
<p>Brent, I have been fond of saying the following to get a laugh - but I think it is true. CEO's (top executives) make business decisions for three reasons - 1. to make money 2. to save money 3. to stay out of jail (this one usually gets the laugh)</p>
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<p>If training is mandated (by courts or laws or industry standards) then we help the CEO "stay out of jail."</p>
<p>If we are willing to be held accountable for revenue production (i.e. make money) without putting ourselves in jail then we can appeal to the make money "mandate." Most training companies and HR Departments are unwilling/unable to commit to revenue so - that leaves one choice most of the time - you guessed it - save money!</p>
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<p>We'll be stuck with this for quite a while yet - I am afraid - until we can turn the industry perception around by focusing on revenue impact - and proving it.<br/><br/><cite>Brent Darnell said:</cite></p>
<blockquote><div><p>The type of work we do can be supplemented by web based learning, but ultimately, the need for human interaction both peer to peer and one on one coaching is vital to creating true behavioral changes. I feel like a salmon. The HR people I talk to want it cheap and down and dirty and easy. I'm afraid what we do can't be done that way.</p>
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</blockquote> The type of work we do can be…tag:ifivealliances.ning.com,2011-04-01:3234727:Comment:71422011-04-01T20:32:34.047ZBrent Darnellhttp://ifivealliances.ning.com/profile/BrentDarnell
<p>The type of work we do can be supplemented by web based learning, but ultimately, the need for human interaction both peer to peer and one on one coaching is vital to creating true behavioral changes. I feel like a salmon. The HR people I talk to want it cheap and down and dirty and easy. I'm afraid what we do can't be done that way.</p>
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<p>The type of work we do can be supplemented by web based learning, but ultimately, the need for human interaction both peer to peer and one on one coaching is vital to creating true behavioral changes. I feel like a salmon. The HR people I talk to want it cheap and down and dirty and easy. I'm afraid what we do can't be done that way.</p>
<p> </p> In response to the learning,…tag:ifivealliances.ning.com,2011-03-14:3234727:Comment:66452011-03-14T09:36:44.965ZBrent Darnellhttp://ifivealliances.ning.com/profile/BrentDarnell
In response to the learning, I would say from a friend in a classroom.
In response to the learning, I would say from a friend in a classroom. Companies are starting to und…tag:ifivealliances.ning.com,2011-03-14:3234727:Comment:66432011-03-14T09:35:56.356ZBrent Darnellhttp://ifivealliances.ning.com/profile/BrentDarnell
<p>Companies are starting to understand the importance of training, but are still reluctant to do so. When they see that statistics of younger people having a dozen jobs by age 30, they don't want to invest in people who will likely leave. They say, "What if I train them and they leave?" My response is, "What if you don't train them and they stay?"</p>
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<p>Companies are starting to understand the importance of training, but are still reluctant to do so. When they see that statistics of younger people having a dozen jobs by age 30, they don't want to invest in people who will likely leave. They say, "What if I train them and they leave?" My response is, "What if you don't train them and they stay?"</p>
<p> </p> Preferred method: Classroom
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<p>Preferred method: Classroom</p>
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<p>In future, mix of classroom and online resources.</p>
<p>Preferred method: Classroom</p>
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<p>In future, mix of classroom and online resources.</p> What is the growth path for t…tag:ifivealliances.ning.com,2011-03-10:3234727:Comment:65422011-03-10T01:59:06.937ZPaul Terlemezianhttp://ifivealliances.ning.com/profile/PaulTerlemezian
<p>What is the growth path for the CLO?</p>
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<p>I have been asking this question and most people think that there is no growth path for the CLO.</p>
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<p>I think they should be candidates to be the CEO of their company or the CEO of a Training Industry company.</p>
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<p>What do you think?</p>
<p>What is the growth path for the CLO?</p>
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<p>I have been asking this question and most people think that there is no growth path for the CLO.</p>
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<p>I think they should be candidates to be the CEO of their company or the CEO of a Training Industry company.</p>
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<p>What do you think?</p> CLO Magazine posted an articl…tag:ifivealliances.ning.com,2010-05-03:3234727:Comment:41662010-05-03T13:24:00.000ZPaul Terlemezianhttp://ifivealliances.ning.com/profile/PaulTerlemezian
CLO Magazine posted an article today:<br />
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Strategy Expired: Updating Management for the 21st Century<br />
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<a href="http://www.clomedia.com/executive-briefings/2010/May/2940/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.clomedia.com/executive-briefings/2010/May/2940/index.php</a><br />
Visit Chief Learning Officer magazine at <a href="http://www.clomedia.com/" target="_blank">http://www.clomedia.com/</a><br />
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The article asserts: "CLOs also should groom leaders to be more comfortable with uncertainty and to be able to…
CLO Magazine posted an article today:<br />
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Strategy Expired: Updating Management for the 21st Century<br />
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<a href="http://www.clomedia.com/executive-briefings/2010/May/2940/index.php" target="_blank">http://www.clomedia.com/executive-briefings/2010/May/2940/index.php</a><br />
Visit Chief Learning Officer magazine at <a href="http://www.clomedia.com/" target="_blank">http://www.clomedia.com/</a><br />
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The article asserts: "CLOs also should groom leaders to be more comfortable with uncertainty and to be able to make decisions amid ambiguity" What recommendations would yo…tag:ifivealliances.ning.com,2009-07-01:3234727:Comment:17412009-07-01T17:33:11.000ZPaul Terlemezianhttp://ifivealliances.ning.com/profile/PaulTerlemezian
What recommendations would you make to someone about to organize and run an unconference?<br />
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Are there any tools that you would recommend - why? What have you learned from running an unconference that you would do differently next time? How did you prepare the attendees? How did you support the facilitators? How did you measure results? Thank you.
What recommendations would you make to someone about to organize and run an unconference?<br />
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Are there any tools that you would recommend - why? What have you learned from running an unconference that you would do differently next time? How did you prepare the attendees? How did you support the facilitators? How did you measure results? Thank you. I guess it all depends on wha…tag:ifivealliances.ning.com,2009-06-20:3234727:Comment:15652009-06-20T16:07:35.000ZIan Williamshttp://ifivealliances.ning.com/profile/IanWilliams
I guess it all depends on what is meant by training. It is such a broad church!<br />
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Many eLearning providers produce practical training courses that demonstrate exactly how something should be done and even has checks and balances in place so that someone is not able to "move on" to the next stage until they are able to demonstrate that they have properly understood and learned the current stage. The downside with eLearning is that if a procedure is changed within a business, then the course may…
I guess it all depends on what is meant by training. It is such a broad church!<br />
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Many eLearning providers produce practical training courses that demonstrate exactly how something should be done and even has checks and balances in place so that someone is not able to "move on" to the next stage until they are able to demonstrate that they have properly understood and learned the current stage. The downside with eLearning is that if a procedure is changed within a business, then the course may need to be tweaked, which impacts the upfront investment element.<br />
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Classroom based learning is still preferred by many, is adaptable, however relies on tests and exams to prove understanding, which can be a little more formal and requires another level of organisation.<br />
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I would agree that many educationalists can be too practical, however I would make the distinction between trainers and, for example, lecturers, who predominantly focus upon the theoretical elements of subject matter, which, although interesting, are often of little practical use to a school or university leaver. As a marketer leaving university 16 years ago (was it really that long ago! :-s ), understanding Ansoff and Porter did little to help me to undertake research involving conjoint analysis. I had to go through a whole new learning curve.<br />
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A friend of mine has just finished at Uni and just missed out on a 2:1 degree in History. He is a very bright 21 year old man, however his literacy is truly appalling. I think people must measure educational standards differently nowadays, however I would never give this guy a job checking, let alone writing copy.<br />
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I think that there is an ideal state for many trainers, myself included, namely where training becomes coaching which possibly also becomes consultancy. I see a natural transition between the three. Getting businesses to accept this model can be challenging, however I have attempted a 'risk and reward' proposition before with a small business, whereby they wouldn't pay me for my services in exchange for a shareholding &amp; executive directorship upon successful attainment of goals. I think this was a leap too far for them at at the time. Who knows? We could have all been multi-millionaires by now. ;-)<br />
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For me, the current blind spot with training comes down to the individual trainers. The people I have learned most from in life haven't necessarily known most about their subject matters, however have been extremely exciting and engaging. It is very difficult to draw these types of people into teaching because the pay is so poor, which is such a shame.<br />
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Within the training industry in the UK, another problem is the lack of training qualifications required to deliver training, which I understand is something that the industry is looking to tackle in the coming years. Many trainers are engaging and entertaining (although many 'jobbing' trainers are not!), however some are simply obsessed with the sound of their own voices (we can all be guilty of that from time to time, myself included!) and fail to observe the pedagogic &amp; learning requirements of successful training. This balance is something I work very hard to maintain.<br />
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<cite>Paul Terlemezian said:</cite><blockquote cite="http://ifivealliances.ning.com/forum/topics/questions-for-the-training#3234727Comment1421"><div>Do you think our industry has a "blind spot?"<br/> Most of us have an opinion about what the automotive, newspaper and mortgage industries seemed unable or unwilling to fix. What about our industry? Are we doing everything right? Is there a common area that people outside our industry can see that we are unable or unwilling to fix from within?</div>
</blockquote> Today I read an article title…tag:ifivealliances.ning.com,2009-06-20:3234727:Comment:15632009-06-20T15:46:39.000ZPaul Terlemezianhttp://ifivealliances.ning.com/profile/PaulTerlemezian
Today I read an <a href="http://www.redhat.com/f/pdf/whitepapers/Eleven-questions-everyCIO.pdf">article</a> titled: 11 Questions every CIO should ask their IT Manager. My observations of CIO's has helped me to learn that they face similar challenges to those that the CLO faces., so:<br />
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I have created questions that are analagous to what a CLO might ask their training manager:<br />
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1. Who is making our training decisions?<br />
2. What are we doing to control costs?<br />
3. How many licenses (e.g. LMS,…
Today I read an <a href="http://www.redhat.com/f/pdf/whitepapers/Eleven-questions-everyCIO.pdf">article</a> titled: 11 Questions every CIO should ask their IT Manager. My observations of CIO's has helped me to learn that they face similar challenges to those that the CLO faces., so:<br />
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I have created questions that are analagous to what a CLO might ask their training manager:<br />
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1. Who is making our training decisions?<br />
2. What are we doing to control costs?<br />
3. How many licenses (e.g. LMS, collaborative learning) do we have?<br />
4. Are we using training industry standards?<br />
5. Are we using open learning tools and content?<br />
6. What are we doing to improve the utilization of our existing licenses, classrooms and instructors?<br />
7. Are we using social learning tools and concepts?<br />
8. What will it cost us to migrate from our existing investments?<br />
9. How can we improve our management efficiency?<br />
10. What can be done to improve the management of our inventory?<br />
11. How can we reduce our operational costs?<br />
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Does this list surprise you in any way?<br />
Does it reveal a blind spot?<br />
Is it simply a reflection of the "reality of the times?"