China Plans to Destroy the US???

Just another thing, The RAAF(Royal Australian Air Force) has joined the JSF program, is in the process of purchasing Aussie Tiger Attack
Helicopters(Appache), and are planning to update their Air Tanker fleet of Antiquated 707, possible replacements are 747-200/300. We still fly Ex-US
F-111 and F-18 E/F Hornets.
We could probably defend our selves , though only through our highly experienced Pilots and Army Personel.

In November 1996 Lockheed Martin and Boeing won two consept demonstration contracts worth about $660 million issued by the U.S. State of Defence.
The contract required that the competing contractors build aircraft that will demonstrate three specific requirments.
1. Low- Speed handling qualities and Carrier Approach Capability.
2. Short Take Off.
3. Vertical landing(STOVL)

X-32 Boeing
X-35 Lockheed Martin

Tech Points

Contract won by Lockheed Martin.
F-35A, F-35B, F-35C will be constructed for U.S. Air Force, Marines, Navy respectfully.
70-90% of Parts are Shared between all variants.
There is a more advanced Fighter in the American arsinal, F-22 Raptor. Though at a cost, "Fly-Away" U.S. $99.7 million each, they were too
expensive. Basic cost for a F-35 Approx. $40 million.

Attack Helicopters

The 'Aussie Tiger' will be another area were the Australian Defence Force will look to invest money. The 'ADF Air 87 program', which seeks
between 20-30 reconnaissance/armed rotorcraft will be the next step in arming itself with the latest Technology.
This is a short list that the ADF has in mind.

Apache won contract to supply between 20 and 30 Attack Helicopters.
It was least expensive of all three to maintain.
At a total cost of Approx. $1.5 Billion including support for 20-30 examples.

Air Refeuling Tankers

Another piece of the agenda is Air Refeuling Tankers. The ADF is Looking to replace the aging fleet of 707-338C Air Refeuling Tankers. The ADF has
two options, to opt for the Large Body Tankers, Which would likely be the 747. Or whether to go for the Medium Body Tankers, which could be either the
767 or Airbus 310/330.

This is what the ADF has in mind for the 747 variant:

1. 747-100/200. Built from 1970 onward, is the oldest model in the 747 line up. These models are not suitible for consideration, due to the fact that
Airframe Fatuge and Corrosion are big drawbacks. Though the last of the 747-200 were last built in the 1990s and may be acceptable.
Price 747-100/200 $4.6- $7.7 million.
747-200(later models) $13.8- $26.2 million.
2. 747-300. There are alot of 747-200B/C and 747-300B/CF aircraft on the world market and a good proportion of these are Combis, which are already
fitted with a SCD cargo door, there for lower cost to retrofit.

Price 747-300 $39.4- $50.8 million + Retrofit.
3. 747-400. Built from 1990 onward is available in both Combi and Freighter versions, it offers the best load carrying performance of any 747, though
the MTOW imposes the need for better runways, and due to its large wingspan ground handling can be an issue on some sites.

Price 747-400 $92.5- $158.5 million.
4. 747SP. Built from 1976-1980, this aircraft was spacifically designed for long distance, low load factor. Only 45 examples were built.
When the 747-400 was released, the demand for the 747SP fell strongly. By 1999 only 7 747SPs were in storage and 4 dismatled for parts.

Price 747SP $5.3- $7.7 million.

This tells me, Australia was leaked information from the U.S.D.F., that tells us about surtain threats in the Asia-Pacific Area in the not to distant
future.

'This tells me, Australia was leaked information from the U.S.D.F., that tells us about surtain threats in the Asia-Pacific Area in the not to
distant future.'

Don't underestimate australian intelligence, we often feed the US intelligence on South Asia as our HUMINT sources are better.
We also have detailed technical summaries of the capabilities of our neighbours.

China would be cutting their own financial throat if they were to go after the US militarily. We buy more Chinese made products than any other nation
on earth (from the WSJ international business section).

If they were to take a military stand against the US we would stop buying their products, stop all tech transfers, shut down all vendor/subcontractor
connections and close the door to raw materials being sent into China from the US and blockade all other nations from doing the same.

Within a year they'd be completely stagnant and without the materials, technology or money to wage war against anybody, let alone the all powerful US
military.

Attacking the US would be political suicide, removing any barriers we've had keeping us from removing the last big commie power on earth.

I agree, China have absolutly no reason to attack its neighbours or in that fact the US. Not anymore anyway. Though I did hear word on an Oil Pipeline
to connect China with Oil fields in Southern Russia. Can someone elabourate??

true say since the usa is a big partner it wud hurt but with the war on terror and a war in iraq soon the military is stretched out and diverting
forces to a chinese theater wud take time precisious time

Well Indonesia do use Migs and Su's don't they? Can someone find out exactley what Aircraft Indonesia use. I'm pretty sure it would be in the
vicinity of Su-27. Indonesia also have the Big Russian Bombers Su-?(42) if I'm not mistaken. Equivalent to the US B-52 Stratojet.

Indonesians: nothing to do with their hardware (although Australia's military capability has been progressively weakened by successive governments:
this is changing somewhat, now) - it's the fact that there are 200,000,000 of them and they are very hungry, very desperate people: they're a bit
too scared now (or PNG would be a war zone); but they are as much a threat as Central and South America are to the US: to be massively outnumbered by
much poorer and culturally alien neighbours is not a great comfort.

As for local people here, it's a massive generalisation but America is treated as just another country in the news: it's largely viewed as a
trading partner. Occasionally they get irate over Taiwan.
Very old people might remember Maoist rants but for young people, America - followed by England and Canada - represent some sort of materialist
paradise. It's now almost impossible for Chinese students to get into the US directly, so they try for Canada; but the US would be the most popular
destination.
Incidentally, the Chinese for America is Meiguo (May-gwoh) and this comes across as "beautiful Land" (which is rather sweet)

China doesn't want war with the USA, they just want us out of Asia. China wants to conquer Taiwan without the USA trying to stop them. China also
wants the USA military to leave S. Korea and Japan that way China can bully their neighbors with their military without the USA interfering.

Of course, the USA will not abandon its allies. We will interfere in China's plan to invade Taiwan.

World War III
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China will launch a massive conventional missile attack on Taiwan followed by a massive air and naval attack. Once China destroys Taiwan's navy and
airforce China will begin their invasion. China's loyalists and special forces smuggled into Taiwan will cut off Taiwan's communication.

China will launch a Normandy style invasion of Taiwan. China will then launch a massive Airborne assault on Taiwan's rear.

USA will send a battlegroup to help defend Taiwan from Japan. China's 3 naval fleets will sink and destroy several USA ships maybe a carrier causing
the USA to retreat. Note: China has 3 massive fleets, we only have 1 battlegroup near Taiwan.

Taiwan will then surrender to China. China then sues for peace with the USA. USA demands China leave Taiwan or they will be no peace. China says F
U to the USA. USA orders all USA battlegroups to the Pacific.

China realizes there will be no peace. China orders North Korea to attack South Korea. China launches missiles attack on the USA airbase in Okinawa,
Japan. China aids N. Korea in attacking USA military in S. Korea. Japan enters the war because of China attacking Okinawa.

China invades Philippines then invades Vietnam. Philippines and Vietnam forces are destroyed, both countries surrender to China. China uses the
airfields in both countries for their fighter planes. China now can destroy any ships or fighters that enter the South China Sea. Also, from the
Philippines they can destroy any ship or fighter coming towards Taiwan from the Philippines Sea.

China will use Taiwan airfields to attack Japan. China will then invade Okinawa and use the airfield there to launch attack on Japan, USA, and S.
Korean forces.
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China at the earliest will start this war in the year 2014. By then china's military modernization will be almost complete. China by then will have
large numbers of J-10, su-27(J-11), and su-30 fighters. China should have their new J fighter similar to the USA's Raptor in production by 2014.
China will have a large numbers of Kilo and Nuclear attack subs. China's surface fleet will have several new warships.
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China's invasion of Taiwan is a certainty, the only question is when.

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