<quoted text>Fret not!A christian is always forgivin...say a few nice things and you're back in grace with a GOD.The beauty of christianity, a GOD never confirms an individuals belief....you can always call it as you see it.

How do you KNOW? Have you given God a chance to confirm your BELIEF in Him? or/ Have you told Him you Don't Believe in Him?,Does God know you?

<quoted text>Fret not!A christian is always forgivin...say a few nice things and you're back in grace with a GOD.The beauty of christianity, a GOD never confirms an individuals belief....you can always call it as you see it.

Well in most cases it is called FAITH..........and when you truly have that it leads you to repentence which brings on forgiveness from God.

We are not perfect in Christ but we are striving to be so and that is what God is looking at.

<quoted text>ThanksYou do understand that the "spirit" is a "mind-set" and not something a GOD gives you, but something you actually need to work at yourself?You are always you, a GOD can't make a new you inside an old sinful body, the effort is all on you.If you seek understanding of the GOD concept, you'll need to stay away from a pastor/pimp.

You are getting it !

Now tone down drop the "pimp" term (charlatan might be better) and you got my support.

<quoted text>ThanksYou do understand that the "spirit" is a "mind-set" and not something a GOD gives you, but something you actually need to work at yourself?You are always you, a GOD can't make a new you inside an old sinful body, the effort is all on you.If you seek understanding of the GOD concept, you'll need to stay away from a pastor/pimp.

Everything you have just said is notonly contradictory to the Word, but those of us who have the born again experience are WITNESSES to God's truth by his spirit.

If there's a bloody cricket stick that was found in Pistorious' home,and previous incidents of domestic discord can be proven...Oscar Pistoriuos may as well get a cell next to O.J. in Vegas. It's over.

Annie, I was not talking to you. In response to your post on the stats of crimes and horrors committed in your country, all I can say is that I am very sorry and also very concerned.People can be good or bad regardless of beliefs or claims of beliefs, that was my whole point.Every human on the planet will at some time or another, defend what they believe or care about.Governments, Empires, Conquerors and crazy/stupid people who only care about themselves and their agendas have always trampled on people.Regardless of religion, race, non religion, beliefs, profession, circumstances etc.. Bigotry, Hypocrisy, Evil, Thirst for Power and Prejudice are things all humans are capable of. It has been that way since the beginning of time.What the people I was addressing, as well as those like them, are doing, is no different to what the Christians in your country did to your son and all those like him.No different to what was done to natives.No different than what the Romans did, or the Barbarians, or the Babylonians etc..It's not going to make anything better, just worse, you'll see.I've met some beautiful people and have faced pure evil, of all different kinds of labels.

I'm sorry...but when you asked this question...

"Can any of the non Christians here explain why they are so hateful, obnoxious and rude?"

...I took that to be all non-Christians.

I have posted this often...

He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you. Friedrich Nietzsche

I believe this happens often...to most all of us. We are passionate about what we fight for...what we believe in. Sometimes in our haste...we forget to check ourselves.

There is another quote...

“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” attributed to Edmund Burke

All too often we don't speak up...we do not want to get involved...we fear retaliation...we worry too much about what others might think.

Each of us has to define what we consider "evil"...to do something...and at the same time...not to look in to that abyss and find that we have become the monster.

It is not always easy to do...and I have failed at that several times. I probably will again.

<quoted text>I disagree with your last statement...I don't believe they are pretending.What I do think is that are acting upon their faith based on their interpretation of what the Bible says. Are they right about that interpretation...not in my opinion.Take this thread for example...It has just come off a a bitter battle concerning OSAS. Someone has to be right...someone has to be wrong...possibly.Was one side pretending...or were they just acting upon their interpretation?Some feel as if they must speak up against homosexuality and use some rather unkind words while do so...others might consider it sin...yet feel no need to vilify...then there are those that fight for the rights of gays.Are any of them pretending...not in my opinion...they are acting according to their interpretation of scripture.Each person can find scripture to back up their interpretation...look how much was posted for the OSAS debate...each person felt as if their interpretation was the correct one. I don't think that any of them were pretending.

Really Annie? You are using topix posters as an example of not pretending?

A lot of people misinterpret the Bible to suit their agendas or themselves, including non and x Christians.

A lot of Christians take the words of Jesus to heart and truly live it.

A lot of Christians misinterpret the Bible and are never taught any different.

<quoted text>...A lot of people misinterpret the Bible to suit their agendas or themselves, including non and x Christians.A lot of Christians take the words of Jesus to heart and truly live it.A lot of Christians misinterpret the Bible and are never taught any different.A lot of people are homophobic and not all of them are Christians.A lot of people are nasty and they are not all Christians either.

<quoted text>check dr shrink,maybe something also is wrong with your brain??if I write a lot, you are not only confused by shaking like jelly fish from deep fear and own low education not understanding foreign english slang from Oxford

<quoted text>Really Annie? You are using topix posters as an example of not pretending?A lot of people misinterpret the Bible to suit their agendas or themselves, including non and x Christians.A lot of Christians take the words of Jesus to heart and truly live it.A lot of Christians misinterpret the Bible and are never taught any different.A lot of people are homophobic and not all of them are Christians.A lot of people are nasty and they are not all Christians either.

You have misunderstood the point that I was trying to make.

All of those conditions that you listed exist. I am not denying that.

What I was trying to say...I do not believe that most people are pretending...they truly believe that they have it right. It doesn't make any difference if I agree...you agree...they think they have "truth".

Many atrocities have been committed by people...not just religious people...because they believe they are right...no pretending.

My opinion...Topix is a cross-section of real life...after all...we don't just exist here.

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