WWE Hell In A Cell 2013 airs lives on pay-per-view October 27, 2013, and as always With Leather will be here in conjunction with the funniest readers on the Internet to live blog the show, provide a forum for open discussion (spoiler: Randy Orton rules) and just generally make light of the entire endeavor. As a reminder, Hell In A Cell is a pay-per-view built around a “demonic structure” that ends peoples’ careers by briefly touching them, but not long enough to cut them.

Here’s your full card for tonight’s show:

1. Hell in a Cell Match for the WWE Championship: Randy Orton vs. Daniel Bryan. Shawn Michaels is the special guest referee.

Leave your comments and predictions below. The top 10 comments of the night will be featured in tomorrow’s Best and Worst of WWE Hell in a Cell 2013 report, so if you see a comment you want considered for top 10 inclusion, reply to it with a +1.

Okay, so Bryan pretty much has to come out and say, “Okay, I get it now, the WWE title is a dumb plaything and I shouldn’t have taken all this so seriously. Bye, I quit.” at the top of Raw, right? I mean, no reasonable, intelligent person would continue to chase this belt at this point, right? WWE doesn’t want people to think their storylines are stupid, *right?*

I hope the payoff eventually is Bryan winning and then HHH announcing on Raw the next night that it’s silly to have two top belts and the WWE title is no more and now the Heavyweight title is the top belt.

Who was talking bad about Bryan? The only criticism he got was that he was becoming a bit too snide and instead of making points was turning into Jericho circa 2001. That doesn’t mean we hated everything he did, and he mostly received positive “reviews” from fans on here and Brandon.

If you want us to hate Trips for being an evil mastermind in power, at least have him do something clever once in a while. He hasn’t done anything that required foresight since the Scott Armstrong “they got us Daniel” frame job. Getting Shawn in the poll, knowing he would win because he put him up with stiffs like Booker and Backlund, and that Shawn was willing to turn on DB would have been clever.

I think he’s trying to rip off Jericho’s suit and tie 2008 thing, and he does do a pretty good job most of the time. He’s just so full of bullshit and you want him to eat it but at the same time you have a horrible fear for Bryan because its Triple H. The coolest, funniest, smartest guy ever, and don’t forget THE BEST WRESTLER OF THE ATTITUDE ERA AND EVER! And WCW sucks, and so do indies, and Benoit, and Angle, etc…

The point I’m trying to make is Trips character is three dimensional sometimes, but other times his motivation makes no sense. Like when he’s saying, “Bryan you’re a B + player, unlike the Undertaker and The Rock” why would Trips say this other than to make an inside reference that only smarks would get? Daniel has beaten Cena and Orton, both guys who have in turn beaten Trips. So other than maybe trying to get into his head he has no motivation for trying to bring him down, and its just this weird assed angle that doesn’t work outside of anything but wrestling.

But tonight was pretty stupid, I don’t know what the fuck Trips did and he reminded me of Keaton in Batman Returns, just accidentally stumbling into shit that ends up in his favor.

I thought the first match was a spot fest that was slow at times and don’t feel it will really hold up. Main event was the best match, Punk vs Ryback was pretty lame actually and I feel Punk shoulda done more to Heyman.

Well Punk really did fuck up Heyman at whatever show he wrestled Axel at. I honestly think the feud should’ve died there because after that it just kept on dragging, and Ryback just wasn’t allowed to come across as a legitimate threat because of WWE neturting him as of late.

I was reading one of the Best and Worsts from Janurary and Punk/Ryback had a really good TLC match I forgot about, and that actually shows how well they could’ve worked in a switched heel/face environment but Ryback just never got to look like a legitimate threat in this feud unlike in their feud back in late 2012.

Well something can make you apathetic toward the product. I still care but see where these people are coming from, this angle is getting drawn out even longer than before and thus makes people lose interest.

Apathy means you are indifferent. If you are annoyed, frustrated, “tired of this shit,” you are not apathetic. You might stop watching still, but you obviously care. So choose your words more carefully.

I am going to pretend this is leading to HBK coming out of retirement again and that we are getting Bryan vs Michaels in an Iron Man Match at Wrestlemania 30 even though it probably means that we are getting Bryan vs HHH in a best out of 3 Iron Man Match at Wrestlemania 30 that Hunter will take 2-0.

To be fair I think there’s a large difference between the crowd that’s supposed to hate Trips and love Daniel Bryan, and Trips cutting non-sensical promos about how the fans don’t love Punk enough as they’re chanting CM Punk, and Trips getting to win because of a botched angle with Nash that never ended up happening.

These last three months have been like watching those filler DBZ episodes with Cena as Goku coming to save the day. I think someone else made a reference to this a couple weeks ago but it really hit me tonight.

So Cena fights HHH but is unable to beat him. Cena calls for Bryan to take him down. Bryan takes him ou,t but then Orton threatens to blow everyone up forcing Cena to have to beat him to save the universe?

Daniel kicked some ass, Randy came back with T-Bone’s and shit. Pretty much the same thing we’ve been seeing between them with Randy getting in a little more offense. Shawn started auguring with Trips, Ref ko spot. Daniel got his knee of doom on Randall, Trips comes in and throws Daniel around. Daniel ko’s Trips, Shawn gets pissy because Trips is his friend, and superkicks Daniel giving Randy the title.

Match itself was pretty good. Then the ending sequence happened. In short, HHH distracted HBK by telling him to do his job, DB threw Orton and Orton accidently bumped into HBK, HBK is down, DB hits Orton with the knee, HBK still down, HHH goes in to check on HHH, Bryan tries to wake HBK up but HHH throws him aside, Bryan hits HHH with the Knee, HBK, still out of it (supposedly) superkicks bryan. Orton goes to the pin , HBK counts to three, is all sad, and HHH and Orton stand alone in the ring to close the show

It’s hard to get across just how weird the very end was. Orton got mad because he thought HBK was slow counting him, so Trips comes out to yell at HBK. Then, because HBK is currently being distracted by Trips, he misses Orton pinning Bryan. That causes Orton to get really pissed and for some reason Trips starts climbing the cage. Trips climbing the cage distracts HBK AGAIN and he gets ref bumped. Bryan pins Orton, but HBK is still knocked out, so Bryan goes over to try and get HBK up. Trips comes in and throws Bryan across the ring for some fucking reason, just so he can go “Shawn are you okay?” Then Bryan ko’s Trips, and HBK superkicks Bryan and then Orton wins. It was truly terrible.

Oh and they were gonna do this huge spot where Orton was going to superplex Bryan onto a big pile of steel chairs but Orton misjudged the distance and they completely missed. Bryan’s feet MAY have touched the edge of the pile but it was still a pretty big miss.

I think the main point everyone’s overlooking is that Shawn Michaels doesn’t have any real motivation to turn heel. So they had to go with the plaooza we got. I’d take it over Shawn turning heel for no reason. I mean, I can’t think of one good motivational reason for him to do it.

Secondly, is Punk going to come on Raw tomorrow and be all, “I didn’t beat you up badly enough Heyman, at the next ppv I’m going to burn you alive,”?

The reports of Bryan’s death are exaggerated. He will rise like a phoenix from the ashes. If he has to destroy every one of HHH’s minions and HHH along the way so be it. Bryan will win the Rumble and take back the belt at ‘Mania. YES! YES! YES!

I really think a few years of HHH douchery in the early 00s kind of killed what works in wrestling: we keep following in hopes of seeing “our guy” get the “big score” much like we wake up every morning to go through our own bullshit on a daily basis in hopes of our own “big score”. I stand by this, the ending was a mess, but in the overall theme the WWE is pushing our buttons well.

If I were a kid getting into WWE, and saw these last 3 PPVs, I would probably quit watching. Where’s the fun in watching Triple H be the decider of everything who answers to know one for 3+ months? How is that a story?

In Austin’s first title run around the same time of the year it was similar shenanigans. With Vince finding ways to fuck Austin in PPV after PPV, vacating the title. Building to Stone Cold winning at Mania. Now if they choose to bury Bryan yeah this is dumb, but this type of build has worked before.

Not the case. Vince couldn’t figure a way to get the title off of Austin, so he had to set him up against Dude Love and Kane and the Undertaker. Ultimately, Kane and Taker pinned Austin simultaneously, so Vince vacated the title. He didn’t just ask for it either. We still have the fast count ref conspiracy to remember….

They did the double pin in a three way match where Kane and Undertaker couldn’t pin each other. Then the title was vacated, at the next PPV Austin was special referee and counted himself over Taker and Kane, so the belt was still vacated going into Survivor Series, and on that night there was more corporate control and bullshit endings that today’s fans can even dream of.