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freshly clean armpit with no deodorant - right out of the shower armpit tastes YUMMY!!

I'm not that big on armpit taste. Now, that flavour of a clean booty... hmmmmm!

[this thread is seriously going downhill, as usual]

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"I have tried hard--but life is difficult, and I am a very useless person. I can hardly be said to have an independent existence. I was just a screw or a cog in the great machine I called life, and when I dropped out of it I found I was of no use anywhere else."

I used to totally agree with you, until I was in Chicago in 1994 or thereabouts. Spent the night with a guy I met in a club, who was a total hippie. You know, futon mattress on the floor for a bed, no TV, raw milk smoothies sort of guy. But absolutely beautiful. And we did stuff on that futon that I'm pretty sure is still illegal in Germany, with candles lit all over and This Mortal Coil playing on his CD player.

and he wore Patchouli. I submit that scent is one of those trigger things, and that weekend imprinted that scent on my memory pretty strongly. Sadly, having been an Atlanta resident for over 20 years, and pretty much a chewtoy for and in the gay community for at least ten of those, I have a rich library of scents that are associated with fond memories.

I don't normally wear cologne myself. I actually like the smell of soap, and scented deodorant makes me gag.

I totally agree with Hellraiser that gnawing at a chalky armpit is disgusting. The fourth worst thing to encounter on a person, three being poop, two being lice, and one being chancre.

But ah... patchouli. I still listen to my This Mortal Coil albums sometimes. Still light candles, too.

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"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

"I have tried hard--but life is difficult, and I am a very useless person. I can hardly be said to have an independent existence. I was just a screw or a cog in the great machine I called life, and when I dropped out of it I found I was of no use anywhere else."

I can't believe my oral on women stories gross you out so. I have never removed a woman's panties and found skid marks, never ever... but I have tasted blood. I guess it's one of those give and take deals that make all of us (regardless of orientation) such troopers.

Yeah, skidmarks seem to be a male-only thing. Weird. Guess we women are a bit more fastidious when it comes to wiping, maybe because of the close proximity of our other bits. Those other bits can get bacterial infections pretty easy. Ew.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

When i was a teen i was grossed out by a habit my father had. He would finger his ear and then smell it. I'm not sure if the gross out was because he did it publicly, or because he did it at all.

When I first met my longest-term boyfriend, he revealed a shocking (to me) habit. He could shove his hands down his jeans and touch the head of his uncut cock, or his asshole. Only one or the other. Then he would smell his fingers. He'd do this mostty while relaxing around the house, or in bed, but I' seen him do it in public.

I realised I had to get over what I decided was a suburban American squeamishness about body "dirt" and turned it into a neutral. And once in a blue mood, a turn-on.

I cant imagine any parent of a big family who does laundry flinches at all about dealing with the evidence of what beasties we are.

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“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

I remember back in the 70's, the first bottle of 'expensive' cologne I bought was Van Cleef & Arpels, I paid about $50 for it at Rich's at Lenox Mall in Atlanta.

I wore Kouros for a long time...I used to think it was very 'clean' but it's kinda loud.

I still like clean soapy smells the best. Can you believe some of these Alabama redneck fags come up to our men's campground wearing COLOGNE? makes me ill.... of course, they are also the ones that have on a slew of diamond rings, gold chains, etc. I'm like Ford, can't stand jewelry. I wear my Skagen watch every day, and my white gold wedding band -- that's it. I have some nice jewelry (from when I was a bigger queen LOL) but just don't fool with it anymore.

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"Remember my sentimental friend that a heart is not judged by how much you love, but by how much you are loved by others." - The Wizard of Oz

I wear a neckchain and sometimes a wristband/watch and if I'm doing anything other than work or running errands I'll usually wear a little bit of cologne. The amount used is what usually gives the "Heavy" feeling. If you're getting more than just the occasional scent of it then someone is using too much. I do one spritz on a single wrist and put my wrists together and a small spritz on the neck. Most people never even mention my cologne so I'm guessing they don't even smell it.

I dated a guy for a few months who was an AMAZING artist. But his car had crappy emissions. He would always show up at my place smelling like gasoline exhaust and acrylic paint.

To this day, that smell too makes me tingle all down there.

And I pride myself on personally not smelling like anything. I am sure there is a pathology at work.

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"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

You suck cock so why do you care? Is it so important for all of you queens here, most of whom are the wispiest of wispy-fey, to come across as "straight acting" even though no straight people are buying it?

Also, "man jewelry" is called manewelry. I have a friend who wears it to excess.

Both of the ones I use sometimes were gifts. Haven't bought any cologne in a long time.

One is AMEN, which is what ANGEL by Muegler was called in Europe. I profiled him years ago and he told me the company was afraid that AMEN would stir the religious right to object, so they changed the name for the US. The other is Kenzo, also a gift. I shpritz it into the air and then walk under it.

The others from way back -- Grey something, Quorum and others I would buy at Duty Free when flying home from Europe. I want to be in love again and have some guy introduce me to a new scent is what I want. Just sayin'...

You suck cock so why do you care? Is it so important for all of you queens here, most of whom are the wispiest of wispy-fey, to come across as "straight acting" even though no straight people are buying it?

What do faggez mean by "skrait acting"? I've always found that expression to be irritatingly stupid, especially on mancum profiles.

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"I have tried hard--but life is difficult, and I am a very useless person. I can hardly be said to have an independent existence. I was just a screw or a cog in the great machine I called life, and when I dropped out of it I found I was of no use anywhere else."

Personally I hate colognes and scents of any kind. I use unscented deodorant. When I was single, I would only go out with someone who didn't wear cologne at all. It took me three years to get Norm out of the habit of putting on deodorant before sex. One tonguefull of that shit and the mood is broken. I like the scent of a guy, not something out of a bottle.

Ann, were I to start wearing a scent, I should think that Pussy-Beer would likely be my scent of choice if for no other reason than to horrify the few gay friends I have

Aside from that, I don't like scented fabric softeners. UGH! Talk about a stench!

I also use a mineral crystal instead of deoderant and never did use antiperspirant.

But I don't use Ivory soap. I use Kirk's Castille soap. It is pure cocoa butter and stuff like that (I have sensitive skin that doesn't like some of the chemicals in other soaps. It smells like Ivory though.

I will sometimes use a shower gel, but the only scent I like is either eucaliptus or coconut.

I can't stand the scent of some perfumes, well, OK, most perfumes, colognes, body sprays, etc.

As for the pit smell, I prefer mine unwashed after a day of hard physical labor. Of course, the musky smell of a sweaty man, especially his crotch region, is enough to make me entertain thoughts I haven't had in a long time.

I don't use cologne. And, like Denb can't stand the smell of them on another man. I don't like perfume on women much either.I don't use deodorant either - IMO, biggest con ever imposed on mankind. I used to perspire like made under my arms when I used deodorants and/or anti-perspirants. I stopped using them and I stopped sweating. Go figure. Mineral crystal once every few days to once a week does the trick. Lots of ocean swimming over summer. I don't use soaps, except for some mild cleansers on my scruffy bits. And, we all know i detest lube.And, finally, I can't stand the smell of jasmine which is in bloom every which way I turn at the moment. Subtle as a sledgehammer and so sickly sweet. What's wrong with people smelling like people?

I never said anything about being unwashed. If you maintain good hygeine you don't 'smell like arse.... literally'.

I agree with you. I have been paring down my scents for a while now. As I mentioned earlier, I don't wear cologne/after shave often, use the mineral crystal on the ol pits and, aside from that, just shower regularly.

I do use soap though. I like the smell of real soap like Kirk's Castille or Ivory - not those perfumed things.

I also hang as much of my laundry as I am able out on the line. There are about four months of the year when it is just too cold to do it, but otherwise, I like the smell of sun-dried clothes.

I also hang as much of my laundry as I am able out on the line. There are about four months of the year when it is just too cold to do it, but otherwise, I like the smell of sun-dried clothes.

Of course, I use laundry soap that is free of dyes and perfumes.

Oh, are we now veering into laundry? I've always used detergent void of scents, and wash as much as possible with cold water (maintains the fabric better) and the only items that go in a dryer are underwear, socks and towels. Now, keep in mind I've lived in small apartments for the past 25 years with nowhere outside to hang clothing. Everything to dry is hung on my shower curtain rod and a very large drying rack. I hate the feel of blue jeans that have been in a dryer. And a dryer really screws up black clothing, of which I wear a lot.

Going back to cologne, while I do possess quite a bit I do not wear it daily, and in fact there are many days outside of summer where I don't wear any deodorant. When I first was diagnosed with HIV my doctor warned me about using to much soap while bathing saying it would dry my skin out too much, and lots of pozzies get dry skin -- he recommended not to over bathe and use soap on places that need it (armpits, crotch ass) and water is sufficient for the rest of the body.

But I still wear cologne when I am dressed up, but not for fuck dates. I also soap up more in the past few years and wear deodorant more, but I swear I think when I made my last med change it altered my body odor, either that or the fish oil I take daily does.

"...health will finally be seen not as a blessing to be wished for, but as a human right to be fought for." Kofi Annan

Nymphomaniac: a woman as obsessed with sex as an average man. Mignon McLaughlin

HIV is certainly character-building. It's made me see all of the shallow things we cling to, like ego and vanity. Of course, I'd rather have a few more T-cells and a little less character. Randy Shilts

I never used or bought any cologne because I never could find any scents that I found complemented me. Then last winter, I was shopping with a friend who is a fragrance hound, and I bought Burberry Touch. I don't wear it every day -- just on special occasions.

I use deodorant only, not anti-perspirant. It just can't be good to clog up your sweat glands with anti-perspirant, and it can really ruin clothing. Since I don't sweat a log, deodorant can be very triggering.

Stepping into the way-back machine, my first partner wore Givenchy Gentleman, and my second partner wore Joop!. It's surprising how scents and fragrances can be powerful triggers of memories.

Regards,

Henry

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"Life in Lubbock, Texas, taught me two things: One is that God loves you and you're going to burn in hell. The other is that sex is the most awful, filthy thing on earth and you should save it for someone you love." - Butch Hancock, Musician, The Flatlanders