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Good pics, neo...thanks for posting. Sounds like y'all had a great time - I wish it was closer so I could have gone.

“Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall when the wise are banished from the public councils because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.” ~Judge Joseph Story

“Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall when the wise are banished from the public councils because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.” ~Judge Joseph Story

I survived the night . I had a 1/4" ccf pad and my therm-a-rest. I used my 15° as a quilt and it did ok. I didn't get cold but then again I have no idea what the temps were. Sometime during the night the bag ended up under me with the zipper on top. I went ahead and zipped it up until I had to go water the trees. I did manage to flip/roll/fall out of the hammock during the night . I keep sliding most of the night. My feet would end up in the area where the end was tied off. I would push myself forward trying toget back to the other end of the hammock. I tried to pull the pads up also. This morning all of the pads were pushed down to the foot end of the hammock. I don't have a clue as to why this kept happening
In all honesty this was probably my worst night of sleep ever . When I got up my back was hurting from the way I slept?

I will try it again and see if I can change anything. Heck if we all stopped going camping or backpacking because we had problems no one would be out there again

Sounds like your feet should be hung higher...that would solve most of the problem. Wrestling with the pads won't go away until you get rid of the pads, but a SPE or two-layer hammock would help.

But try hanging your feet 6" higher next time and see if it helps.

“Republics are created by the virtue, public spirit, and intelligence of the citizens. They fall when the wise are banished from the public councils because they dare to be honest, and the profligate are rewarded because they flatter the people, in order to betray them.” ~Judge Joseph Story

Neo, sound like you guys had a good time and the pics seem to prove it. Glad you all had fun! I hope to able to join you guys some time. I'm jsut a few hours away in central Kentucky, so I may try to plan attentding your fall hangout. I'll look forward to it!

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