Have to say spot on mike ! Think my story is the same as everyones ! When i first got here i knew bikes but didnt know building bikes . So im sure i asked ALOT of dumb things and didnt always get what i was being told but still tried to figure it out . So after trying this or that and asking this or that i slowly figured things out i thought . There are things i would do diff now but thats because i took the time to lisen and learn from people here and other places. Anyone that asks me about my bike i always tell them it was build not just by me but by people that knew things i didnt and if it wasnt for them i wouldnt be where im at and learned the things i have . I truly believe this when i say it and thats " No one was born with the knowlege they learned it someplace " And " If you say you can't you wont - If you say you can you will " Believe in yourself !!! Now if we can just get Von to like Red bikes