long time lurker and new inmate here...
I've been following this thread and read earlier in the thread that there is a huge disparity in prices in the US vs Canada...
...just curious why canadians can't just come into the US and buy the bike and ride it back to Canada?

long time lurker and new inmate here...
I've been following this thread and read earlier in the thread that there is a huge disparity in prices in the US vs Canada...
...just curious why canadians can't just come into the US and buy the bike and ride it back to Canada?

...just curious why canadians can't just come into the US and buy the bike and ride it back to Canada?

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You can, but there are lots of hassles and expenses. For most brands, there is also no Canadian warranty on US bikes. Do a search and you'll get some idea of what is involved. It's a lot more than just "riding it back to Canada".

Yep. both of our countries cling to their respective sovereignty, and their collection of taxes and fees. As Americans, we cannot go into Canada and request American MSRP or special pricing, especially on items or models unavailable here.
We are separated by more than just an imaginary boundary, but by laws and governments, sometimes for the good and sometimes not so much.

Like in the case of the CB1100, Honda allows our respective country's dealers one color to sell, different from the other country's, and knows our governments will not allow purchasers to share the different colors, through these laws and requirements. Seems the real controlling agent here is Honda. If successful, the 2014 1100, may be available in both our countries in several different colors. A pearl white, royal blue or gold would suit me better than the red, as Honda uses some fashion of red so often for their bikes here in the USA, but looks like red it is.

Oh well, I spoke to my dealer yesterday and I am still first on the list to option the first unit they receive, whatever color, as long as it is red... tomp dd50

If it's *just* the colors, I'm sure people will be swapping parts soon 'nuff to have the color no one else in their country can easily get.

As for the price, as mentioned above, the imaginary line is a powerful thing. Ever try getting Cuban rum or cigars in the US? Heck Tylenol 1 would be nice. In Canada, it's OTC, in the US it's an act of Congress.

If it's *just* the colors, I'm sure people will be swapping parts soon 'nuff to have the color no one else in their country can easily get.

As for the price, as mentioned above, the imaginary line is a powerful thing. Ever try getting Cuban rum or cigars in the US? Heck Tylenol 1 would be nice. In Canada, it's OTC, in the US it's an act of Congress.

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FDA allows our citizens just what they want us to have. FWIW, I love your signature quote. Who knows, you may be famous and not even know it... tomp dd50p

On purpose?..Why, did she lose a bet..
If your idea of A D V E N T U R E is looking for a gas station..then you are covered.
Not a fail, but it would have been sooo easy to add 1 stinkin gallon. Would have completely changed the way you do a trip.
Gary

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I agree, and here's the way I look at that. Who would have shunned the bike if it had a 5 gallon tank? Who may shun it because of the lower fuel capacity? The bike really appeals to me, but that tank size is an issue for me.

Well, I grew up in Colorado and have been riding out here for the past 30 years or so. I've never had a bike that had more than a 160 mile (safe) range (I've gotten some of my bikes up to 175 miles before hitting reserve but I knew it was a fluke) and it has simply never been an issue for me. Most of my bikes would go 125 - 150 miles before hitting reserve.

If you are on paved roads, there actually aren't very many places in the Lower 48 where you can go more than 100 miles without hitting a gas station. Even in wide open, empty places like Wyoming and Nevada, there are gas stations at least every 70 - 100 miles on every paved road I can think of. And of course if you're on the interstate, they are even closer than that.

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Unfortunately that means you have to stop at each one of the stations you come to if you have a 140 mile range. I suspect what people are thinking but haven't quite articulated is that it's nice to be able to pass a gas station out west without stopping. Each time I have ridden out west I have done so on a bike with 200+ mile range, and each time I have found myself in a situation where I was a little nervous about where the next station may be. It's easy enough to plan around it, but it takes effort. If you are the type of rider who tends to drift, as many ADV types are, then it can be a bit of a nuisance to ride for an hour and a half then have to start worrying about fuel.

Yes, not a fail, or deal breaker by any means. Just tiresome always topping off the tank, but doable. If you are going off pavement..(god forbid..isn't it dusty out there??..) you will have to look into carrying extra fuel.

A little like my 1800 VTX..no fuel gauge..none :huh. Now people said at the time "all you have to do is watch the mileage or just pop the cap off and look"...and they are right.
But it is still stupid when that could have been so easily fixed from the jump.
Cant wait to see the beast in person.
Gary

Yes, not a fail, or deal breaker by any means. Just tiresome always topping off the tank, but doable. If you are going off pavement..(god forbid..isn't it dusty out there??..) you will have to look into carrying extra fuel.

A little like my 1800 VTX..no fuel gauge..none :huh. Now people said at the time "all you have to do is watch the mileage or just pop the cap off and look"...and they are right.
But it is still stupid when that could have been so easily fixed from the jump.
Cant wait to see the beast in person.
Gary

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My bikes:
73 cb350
77cb 550
74 cb750
75 cb 500T
92 TDM....

Bikes come with gas gauges and big tanks?

Never in my life have I run out of gas on a bike, and that includes on some pretty long trips in remote places. Being prepared and situational awareness goes a long way. When I do heavy commuting on a motorcycle I will fill up a5 gallon can at the house in case I am on R and not wanting to go to the station mid week.

Never in my life have I run out of gas on a bike, and that includes on some pretty long trips in remote places. Being prepared and situational awareness goes a long way. When I do heavy commuting on a motorcycle I will fill up a5 gallon can at the house in case I am on R and not wanting to go to the station mid week.

I agree, and here's the way I look at that. Who would have shunned the bike if it had a 5 gallon tank? Who may shun it because of the lower fuel capacity? The bike really appeals to me, but that tank size is an issue for me.

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I dont think anyone would have complained about a little more capacity, however one of the design criteria is that the rider be able to see the two outside cylinders while sitting on the bike. This was important to the designer (probably more than it would be to potential owners, but not our call ). This determined the width. The front of the seat and back of the steering stem determine the length, the top of the motor borders the bottom, so the only place to get any additional capacity is in height. Make it too tall and it loses perspective. Personally Id have rather had it a little wider, but I can live with it..or I will live with it.

:eek1I don`t think the size of the tank or whether it has a gauge matters much-it`s the dummy with his hands on the handlebars.I ride a Yamaha Tenere with a 6 gallon tank plus a guage witha mileage countdown,I ran dry less than 2 miles from home.HEAD SLAP.:eek1

I dont think anyone would have complained about a little more capacity, however one of the design criteria is that the rider be able to see the two outside cylinders while sitting on the bike. This was important to the designer (probably more than it would be to potential owners, but not our call ). This determined the width. The front of the seat and back of the steering stem determine the length, the top of the motor borders the bottom, so the only place to get any additional capacity is in height. Make it too tall and it loses perspective. Personally Id have rather had it a little wider, but I can live with it..or I will live with it.

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I hadn't thought about why the width was designed as it was, but that makes sense.

I was looking on Honda's powersport site, and saw that the Shadow RS 750, has a 2.6 gallon tank. Wonder if owners on a Shadow forum are at this minute complaining about that tiny tank on their bikes? Maybe so, maybe not. Probably not...

The Harley XR1200 I had got 43mpg and had a 3.5 gallon tank. Found that was sufficient amount of fuel, because riding a naked bike sans windshield for a hundred miles was plenty, before a wind blast respite was needed. tomp dd50

I was looking on Honda's powersport site, and saw that the Shadow RS 750, has a 2.6 gallon tank. Wonder if owners on a Shadow forum are at this minute complaining about that tiny tank on their bikes? Maybe so, maybe not. Probably not...

The Harley XR1200 I had got 43mpg and had a 3.5 gallon tank. Found that was sufficient amount of fuel, because riding a naked bike sans windshield for a hundred miles was plenty, before a wind blast respite was needed. tomp dd50

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Really? I found the windblast on my FZ1 to be much more fatigueing than the clean air flow on my naked GS.

Really? I found the windblast on my FZ1 to be much more fatiguing than the clean air flow on my naked GS.

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Yep double bubbles and small stock screens are bad for turbulence. The worst I've ever had was a 2010 Triumph Tiger 1050. Nothing helped it... I guess I'm just getting older, and holding myself up against the wind pressure on the chest and neck area gets tough after a while...tp