I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.

that's probably true in terms of fairness, but I can't begrudge voters for putting a team who actually plays a decent schedule ahead of a team who plays only 2 teams all year than are any decent at all.

I'd say Oregon at this point. Mainly because i believe Oregon plays tougher teams. I think just about all the teams on Ohio State's schedule are overrated (Miami, Wisconsin, Penn State). Pac 10 is a tougher conference this year then the Big Ten.

Oregon's offense is just ridiculous, so explosive, it's not a fluke that they're averaging 50+ points a game.

Pac ten isn't tougher than the big ten. Big Ten has 6 or 7 teams who are top 25 caliber (OSU, Iowa, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Michigan, Penn State, and Northwestern) plus Indiana who will make a bowl game. Pac Ten has 3 top 25 teams, maybe 4 tops (Oregon, Stanford, Arizona, and maybe Oregon State) and then a bunch of teams who will be lucky to make a bowl.

Oregon was hanging 50 on everyone last year and Ohio State shut them down. Benefit of the doubt if you're gonna compare them both. It's a hell of a lot better thing to compare them with than anything else if they both go undefeated in their conferences.

Oregon was hanging 50 on everyone last year and Ohio State shut them down. Benefit of the doubt if you're gonna compare them both. It's a hell of a lot better thing to compare them with than anything else if they both go undefeated in their conferences.

Well, considering they're different teams, benefit of the doubt from last year means nothing.

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No harder than it would be to triple Devier Posey every play and send the other 8 at Pryor, but Oregon couldn't get that job done.

we know Chip Kelly's oregon offense isn't unstoppable b/c of last year, even if they are better than before you can't say they're clearly better just b/c they score a **** ton of points again. They certainly didn't win by a **** ton of points last week against Arizona State. OSU has more talent and is more balanced in terms of offense and defensive performance.

It might not be fair to have something like the polls be left up to human judgement, but they do use the previous bowl game in the rankings, and I don't think OSU has done anything to be dropped just b/c they won a league road game against a poor team by 11. Oregon did the exact same thing a week before.

we know Chip Kelly's oregon offense isn't unstoppable b/c of last year, even if they are better than before you can't say they're clearly better just b/c they score a **** ton of points again. They certainly didn't score a **** ton of points last week against Arizona State. OSU has more talent and is more balanced in terms of offense and defensive performance.

It might not be fair to have something like the polls be left up to human judgement, but they do use the previous bowl game in the rankings, and I don't think OSU has done anything to be dropped just b/c they won a league road game against a poor team by 11. Oregon did the exact same thing a week before.

They scored 42 points against ASU at Arizona in the 100 degree heat, that's still impressive. Arizona State has a very solid defense.

no one could pass in the wind and Pryor got hurt. We only score 24, but at the same time we only gave up 13, and the one touchdown was on the opening drive. We ran the ball almost every single play in the 2nd half, maybe threw 2 or 3 passes. Both were ugly wins on the road against bad teams.

I don't care if it's a different season, that doesn't matter. Most of the players on both teams are the same and the Buckeyes beat the Ducks last year, shutting their offense down. If they both go undefeated with the schedules they have, OSU should get in the title game before Oregon. If Oregon won that game to end last season they it would be the other way around, it's only fair. It's not like Ohio State's remaining schedule isn't much stronger than Oregon's either, b/c it is. Michigan, Iowa, Penn State, and Wisconsin all potential/probable ranked teams while Oregon plays one more ranked team (arizona) with the exception of maybe Oregon state or USC getting ranked. Their OOC schedule features a win over Tennessee who won't go to a bowl while Ohio State beat the potential ACC Champ.

Michigan should be ranked No. 1 because they won the national title in 1997. Sure, it's a different season, but you don't care.

you're not following logic sniper. it's a different season but it's mostly the same players on both sides and it is the same coaches and similar scheduling. If they both go undefeated then the only tiebreaker you can use is human judgement, and those voters saw an Ohio State team with most of the same players decisively shut down an Oregon team with most of the same players on a neutral field. It's not like it was the first game of last season, it was this in January of this same year.

you're not following logic sniper. it's a different season but it's mostly the same players on both sides and it is the same coaches and similar scheduling. If they both go undefeated then the only tiebreaker you can use is human judgement, and those voters saw an Ohio State team with most of the same players decisively shut down an Oregon team with most of the same players on a neutral field. It's not like it was the first game of last season, it was this in January of this same year.