Let the conspiracy theories begin. What was the first thing that came to mind? Honestly. Mine was Seguin. Did he get fired for not knowing the character of this player? Most likely not the reason, but that's what popped into my head.

Book said it best in one of his posts, but to summarize he said that when they've blown it with a draft pick, they've blown it big. Like Denis Reul or Lars Volden, just awful players.

If this organization can do a better job than they have at drafting, I think that would be awesome. They weren't terrible at drafting by any means, they were a bit above average. An improvement upon that would be fantastic. Where they were weak, they were glaringly weak - Europe, Sandinavia.

I would love to know more about exactly how clubs spend their scouting dollars. Who's on the staff? how does it work? How many games do they see, and at what levels? We all have some idea of how it works, but anyone have a good source on the realities?

I sat up in the nosebleeds at a Portland Pirates game last year next to a couple of scouts from Montreal. They drove down to watch a guy in the Phoenix system. Two people, sitting in the back to watch one guy owned by the Yotes...with massive binders on their laps and lots of charts and graphs they were filling out. It was crazy. Never would've guessed it's that grassroots an effort.

Book said it best in one of his posts, but to summarize he said that when they've blown it with a draft pick, they've blown it big. Like Denis Reul or Lars Volden, just awful players.

If this organization can do a better job than they have at drafting, I think that would be awesome. They weren't terrible at drafting by any means, they were a bit above average. An improvement upon that would be fantastic. Where they were weak, they were glaringly weak - Europe, Sandinavia.

No scouting discussion is complete without BHab bringing up his favorite draft pick!

I think it was Red or San that pointed out the misery from Scandanavia over the past 20 years. Hopefully the new HOS will give that fool the gate as well.

I've been praying for this for a long long time. I think we had a thread a while ago about who we most want to see gone from the organization (Most people said a player) My choice was Svennson. The guy has a miserable record and he's been there longer than some of the posters here have been alive.

I just mentioned 2 weeks ago how bad their scouting has been. Get rid of the other chiarelli too!

Wish Gorton was still here!

He's one of their OHL scouts - in the 4 years he's been there, the OHL has been one of their few bright spots scouting wise from what it looks like so far. 6 of their top 10 prospects are OHL grads/players.

Book said it best in one of his posts, but to summarize he said that when they've blown it with a draft pick, they've blown it big. Like Denis Reul or Lars Volden, just awful players.

Lars Volden is an awful player? He was just drafted in 2011 (181st overall) and is only 20 years old. What were you expecting? I thought he was doing well in the SM Liiga, but still wouldn't be called over to N. America for another couple years. A late young draft pick/long-term goalie project. Thought that one was a good pick...no?

Book said it best in one of his posts, but to summarize he said that when they've blown it with a draft pick, they've blown it big. Like Denis Reul or Lars Volden, just awful players.

Lars Volden is an awful player? He was just drafted in 2011 (181st overall) and is only 20 years old. What were you expecting? I thought he was doing well in the SM Liiga, but still wouldn't be called over to N. America for another couple years. A late young draft pick/long-term goalie project. Thought that one was a good pick...no? [/QUOTE]

Great pick but saw Svedberg, Subban and Rask already n the system. Plus Chiarelli never signed him so he re-enters the draft.

His first draft was 2010 - that year the OHL gave the Bruins Spooner and Knight, both of whom will be fighting for a spot this season. 2011, gave them some guy named Hamilton, and Koko and Camara out of the OHL, potentially good players still in junior this past season who will be in Rhode Island next year. 2012 they got a top end player out of the OHL in Subban, and Griffith seems to be developping ok - who knows about 2013. Most of the guys he's helped pick are still in junior. You're seriously jumping the gun with complaining about not many of them having been in the NHL yet.

Lars Volden is an awful player? He was just drafted in 2011 (181st overall) and is only 20 years old. What were you expecting? I thought he was doing well in the SM Liiga, but still wouldn't be called over to N. America for another couple years. A late young draft pick/long-term goalie project. Thought that one was a good pick...no?

When I saw him at camp he looked very much like a high school freshman goalie and couldn't stop a beach ball. Youtube him. You might see the goal that was scored on him that happened like this - shot went wide of the net, bounced off the boards and then bounced off his backside and in the goal.

His first draft was 2010 - that year the OHL gave the Bruins Spooner and Knight, both of whom will be fighting for a spot this season. 2011, gave them some guy named Hamilton, and Koko and Camara out of the OHL, potentially good players still in junior this past season who will be in Rhode Island next year. 2012 they got a top end player out of the OHL in Subban, and Griffith seems to be developping ok - who knows about 2013. Most of the guys he's helped pick are still in junior. You're seriously jumping the gun with complaining about not many of them having been in the NHL yet.

While the timing may suggest so. i dont think Seguin being drafted had much to do with the firing, only because when it's a number 2 overall pick, Chiarelli himself is going to as familiar with him and Taylor Hall becuse he would have gone and seen and interviewed them himself. A 4th or 5th round draft choice, I'm sure he relies more on the scouts, but a pick that high he's going to be more hands on.

And you seem to be the only one who has ever complained about this..... well, maybe bim ( with his expertise on drafted players ) also.

PC, at the trade deadline said Subban and Spooner were not being traded. That says something about what the Bruins organization thinks of Spooner............which is different then your thoughts .......of course.