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Re: Retirements by baby-boomer doctors, nurses could strain overhaul

While this may not be the best, or preferred solution, but one solution we do have is to simply move the age of retirement for gov't programs to more accurately reflect the extended life expectancy. At least the very least it should mean less people on the systems for a shorter amount of time, of course its not that simple and will surely be met with all the fury of the elderly.

Re: Retirements by baby-boomer doctors, nurses could strain overhaul

So the answer to the problem, from what I've heard, is to open the flood gates on any jackass who wants to cut people open, reduce their salaries, and allow anyone and everyone wanting to see a doctor for any reason to do so.

If this is even close to what's going to happen, you don't have to be Confucius to see the future. You're going to see private insurance companies take people with means to pay for a bit better care, and highly specialized and better doctors take only those, and nobody on ObamaCare. Then the dregs who free-ride the system will take the rest of the crop who C-minused their way through undergrad and wrote a 250 word essay on "wy i wont to bee a doktor".

If that's the case, fine for me. Let the Wal-Mart greeter take his Henry Ford inferior care and limp away, for all I give a damn. Just don't take away my right to quality care because you feel a need to socialize a field.

Re: Retirements by baby-boomer doctors, nurses could strain overhaul

Originally Posted by RightinNYC

This is hardly a partisan thing, so let's avoid using this thread to bicker about the health care bill. Something needs to be done about the ridiculous system in which the AMA is allowed to set quotas for the number of doctors that graduate each year. There is absolutely no way we can hope to keep costs under control when there is a shortage of doctors.

Tell them to get back to work!

You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville

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Re: Retirements by baby-boomer doctors, nurses could strain overhaul

Originally Posted by RightinNYC

Something needs to be done about the ridiculous system in which the AMA is allowed to set quotas for the number of doctors that graduate each year. There is absolutely no way we can hope to keep costs under control when there is a shortage of doctors.

That's one of the major reasons I believe anti-competitive barriers, including the use of licenses to restrict competition, have to be addressed. Nurses and physicians who are licensed in Europe, parts of Asia, etc., are competent to practice in the U.S. and should be permitted to do so without having to obtain a separate U.S. license. At the same time, quotas that artificially restrict the domestic production of doctors in U.S. medical schools should be abolished.

Re: Retirements by baby-boomer doctors, nurses could strain overhaul

Also completely true. It's something that has to be dealt with on both ends.

Originally Posted by Gipper

So the answer to the problem, from what I've heard, is to open the flood gates on any jackass who wants to cut people open, reduce their salaries, and allow anyone and everyone wanting to see a doctor for any reason to do so.

If this is even close to what's going to happen, you don't have to be Confucius to see the future. You're going to see private insurance companies take people with means to pay for a bit better care, and highly specialized and better doctors take only those, and nobody on ObamaCare. Then the dregs who free-ride the system will take the rest of the crop who C-minused their way through undergrad and wrote a 250 word essay on "wy i wont to bee a doktor".

If that's the case, fine for me. Let the Wal-Mart greeter take his Henry Ford inferior care and limp away, for all I give a damn. Just don't take away my right to quality care because you feel a need to socialize a field.

The absurd restrictions on the number of seats in medical schools means that we're already far past the point where it's serving the purpose of keeping out unqualified individuals. There are thousands of eminently qualified students each year who are not admitted to any medical school, which is a phenomenon not seen in any other professional field.

Ex. There are 130 MD-granting schools and 199-JD granting schools. The average student at the lowest of the ranked medical schools has a 3.6 GPA and a MCAT at the 80th percentile. Those numbers are roughly equivalent to the average student at the 25th ranked law school.

When the "worst" med school in the country has more qualified students than 88% of law schools, something is seriously wrong (on both ends).

Originally Posted by MCS117

And this is why we can label you as a heartless liberal. Care only for yourself and leave the elders in the dusts.....

Sorry for being off-topic but this kind of thinking has gotten us to where we are. "Move over grandma!" Pfft, they raised you for christ sakes, and you can toss them overboard just like that?

Actually, it's the "no one can dare question spending on senior citizens" attitude that is most responsible for where we are today.

People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.