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04-05-2012 05:17 PM

byrsch

Live aboard dream boat

The Endeavour 43 is a great live aboard, not the best sailor but plenty of room.

03-22-2012 04:51 PM

paperbird

Re: Live aboard dream boat

the pearson 424 is a great boat, but her sister ship, the 422, is a better liveaboard IMHO (totally biased, I have one...) The aft cabin with a centerline, walk-around queen and plenty of headroom is awesome.

03-22-2012 02:58 PM

TQA

Re: Live aboard dream boat

DUDE 5 year old thread

03-20-2012 11:40 PM

dieselboy

Re: Live aboard dream boat

Well, i will share not my first hand experience but what i have dug up on the GW 42?
I am looking in to one my self for the same reason just in more troubled waters. The Gulf area to go island hopping. Finding person to person info on a production line of 40 boats is tough.

I have found some old salts that have run far and wide in hellish conditions on the seas. a GW42 and with very few exceptions it was their favorite boat and the vast majority sold them out of personal age rather than any thing to do with the boat it self. They just got to old to own them and use them. It would appear that most were the original owners! They just dont go up for sale much.

My list from contacts..
Pros; space and lots of it, good storage,good power, every one loved the lay out, the inside lay out works well in calm and heavy weather, tough as nails boat taking very little damage in heavy weather, good design, cockpit is for the most part dry in bad weather,just a solid design and beautiful in side and out.

Cons: the black tanks are too small for long trips, most did not like sitting on the propane tank,the teak on deck is a pain and requires a lions worth of work on up keep, some leaks are reported as a result of the teak, all most all have leaking windows for the products used to mount them, " fresh water/rain leaks", a few complaints on the lay out of the stove/counter and sinks, working on the engine and gen set is hard due to space limitations,
larger or older people hated the small companion way " difficult to get stuff in and out of"

I have polled 16 owners for this info. It is not complete by a long shot but it is a start.

i am not selling but here is a nice video of one for sale not to far from me. It is cheesy but you can see just what jewel these things are.

Thanks for all the input. I somehow missed some of your responses DOH!. To answer your question CAM, Yes we will be primarily at the dock for the first 5 years or so and doing day sailing in San Diego as well as long trips to Mexico ,Catalina, and along the Cali coast.

As much as I like the Perry Double Enders I do agree with issues of space at dock teak decks tanks etc...

My idea was to buy a boat that would be good for both but that is not the case, so when we decide to go cruising away from Terra Firma we might have to get something specifically for that adventure.

Cam has a very good point... what is your intended usage. That will really affect what kind of boat you should probably get, as he has pointed out.

If you're living aboard at the dock primarily... it might even make sense to get a smaller, more modern boat, as it would have as much room or more as the traditional double enders you're looking at, yet cost you less in dock fees. Pick the right one, and it'll still be capable of doing serious long-distance coastal cruising and limited bluewater passages.

Just watch those Tiawanese double enders. I've got one, a Union 36, and still like it, but watch the TANKS!!!! and the leaking teak decks.
Look long and hard at what is in the deck core too. Beware also the quality of the internal ply. Mine is not really water proof, or even near so.
They are reasonable ships, with good gear, classy lines, but they can surprise you with the most shocking build short-cuts imaginable.
Someone welded my stainless tanks with wire welding rods. Can you imagine fixing that one? I had to do more than imagine it.
Check the stern tube bedding material too. I would have strangled the yard foreman if he'd been around, 15 years later.
Be careful.
Find a good one.
I suspect you'll like it if you do.

I once looked at a DownEaster 38, and liked the build quailty. Not as pretty, but you can't have everything.

08-24-2007 12:23 AM

camaraderie

Zal...when you say liveaboard...do you mean at a dock or out cruising and if the latter are you talking long distance or Baja/Mexico type runs?
If at the dock..I would avoid the Perry double enders...if at sea...they are great if "cozy" for their respective size.
If for Sandiego/Baha, I would be looking at the nicer coastal cruisers with a lot of interior space and better light air performance.

08-24-2007 12:06 AM

stiffwind

I have no personal experience with the cheoy lee to the extent of your question...you'll have to rely on others to give you more detailed information.

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