By the way, You can take off all of the "terror" attacks from Iraq and Afghanistan, and you may as well remove those of the world trade centers also since all of these are the results of the United States.

_________________CrimsonEagleThe war to end all wars can only be fought on the front-lines of the mind.

The greatest deception they have perpetrated is that we need them. Our greatest mistake is that we believe them.

By the way, You can take off all of the "terror" attacks from Iraq and Afghanistan, and you may as well remove those of the world trade centers also since all of these are the results of the United States.

prove it.and don't point me to some wingnut website full of what if's

_________________I believe that God has planted in every heart the desire to live in freedom. George W. BushDESTROY THE QURAN OR BE DESTROYED BY IT

Its impossible to prove something to someone as delusional as you. I'm not even going to try. My proof is backed by solid physics. Yours is backed by deception. It is not my job to prove to you anything. The proof is there yet you continue to plug your ears and close your eyes.
You are following a lie in every aspect of your life. I pity you.

_________________CrimsonEagleThe war to end all wars can only be fought on the front-lines of the mind.

The greatest deception they have perpetrated is that we need them. Our greatest mistake is that we believe them.

ok, let's say for the sake of whatever , i am delusional . with all the bush haters in the u.s. that are very powerfull and have lots of money and i know there are many many, people like this then why for petes sake why don't we see these people stepping forward and providing solid proof about this delusional 911 theory. and i've looked and read many views from this and their story sounds well put toghether but everybody's story is missing big chunks of their physics equations.what ever happen to innocent UNTIL proven guilty. why are people nailing this man and the republician party to the cross over this without proving them guilty. hell if we had solid proof that bush did it which i don't believe i would be the first in line to impeach, and lock him up until sentencing. but that is not going to happen , because bush had nothing to do with it.

_________________I believe that God has planted in every heart the desire to live in freedom. George W. BushDESTROY THE QURAN OR BE DESTROYED BY IT

Dude you masturbate a lot. Theres no way in hell you have a woman. as much time as you look for shit on the web, you have no time for a woman or a man. You wasted all that time on that shit? WELL LOOKS LIKE WERE DOING A FINE JOB OVER THERE. If Bush shot a man in the face on purpose he would not get into anything. They would call it a "hunting accident"

Welcome to buckyland- A place of fantasy and surreality. Where truth is based in fiction and everyone is a liar but the people who lie. If liars were to tell the truth then the world would be a great place. But in buckyland, the only truth allowed, is the one that can be invented and maintained, not the one that should be told. And he who controls the information doesn't have to say 1 word except "Trust me-It's true what I say". Then the burden of proof is on the one who has to prove that the purported truth is a lie.

Nixon swore he was not lying until it was proven he was lying. He would have gotten away with it, but he made too many mistakes. Bush and Cheney made so many mistakes, but it was never recorded and what comes up can easily be explained to those that believe the lie. The evidence has not only been completely erased, or is being threatened with erasure, it is intentionally being withheld to protect the status of the world- The #1 priority is world domination by the ruling white elite and if the truth were to be known, then 4/5ths of the world would suddenty be aware of the crapshoot they are subjected to. This lie is so big that if it were known, then the whole government, secret service and America would be on the verge of total collapse. It involves everybody and pity the one who blows the whistle- on Both sides of the house. This is how they keep it going-Mutual complicitry of the media the government and the people who eat it up and spit it out. The people in buckyland.

Bucky doesn't have to search the web for this shit. He gets his ideas from the right wing propaganda machines that post the tactics that dupes like him disseminate- the built in web of fools that carry the burden of lies the elite leaders spread by pushing the weak side of the argument with facts based on faith based oratoricals and patriotic drivel meant to inspire the deluded patriot into blind obedience and subservience. They become the eyes, ears and mouthpiece of the apparatus. They speak of trust and truth, but they dish out death and lies. Is this not how it has always been structured? And it always has been delivered with caring- peace and love is the message. We'll bring you what you need and you give us what we want. This is the price the oppressed pay for their freedom to serve the ruling elite of any age.

Wonder where big brother is? Wonder no longer. He sits and watches from as close as next door. Or from within your private rooms. Chat much? Trust your friends and family? Remember Nazi Germany. Bush and Co. sure do. It was the gift that keeps on giving.

Famous quotes from the Bush regime-

''I think a light has gone off for people who've spent time up close
to Bush: that this instinct he's always talking about is this sort of
weird, Messianic idea of what he thinks God has told him to do.''

''This is why George W. Bush is so clear-eyed about Al Qaeda and the
Islamic fundamentalist enemy. He believes you have to kill them all.
They can't be persuaded, that they're extremists, driven by a dark
vision. He understands them, because he's just like them. . . .

''He truly believes he's on a mission from God. Absolute faith like
that overwhelms a need for analysis. The whole thing about faith is to
believe things for which there is no empirical evidence.''

''In meetings, I'd ask if there were any facts to support our case.
And for that, I was accused of disloyalty!''

''Sometimes a show of force by one side can really clarify things.''

''Going into this period, I was praying for strength to do the Lord's
will. . . . I'm surely not going to justify the war based upon God.
Understand that. Nevertheless, in my case, I pray to be as good a
messenger of his will as possible.''

''I trust God speaks through me.''

''I believe he's an instrument of God, but I have to be careful about
what I say, you know, in public.''

''I'm going to be real positive, while I keep my foot on John Kerry's throat,''

''You know, I'm sitting there with Schröder one day with Colin and
Condi. And I'm thinking: What's Schröder thinking?! He's sitting here
with two blacks and one's a woman.''

...and everyone's favorite:

''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality.

Parallels between George W. Bush's administration and Nazi Germany

This first website provides a side by side comparison of the Bush
administration and Nazi Germany from the perspective of the writer.

"Weimar Republic President Paul von Hindenburg appointed Adolf Hitler
Chancellor even though the Nazis were only a small minority in the
German government. Bush is foisted on the American public through a
coup d'etat of the Supreme Court after massive election fraud
perpetrated by his brother in Florida."

This article argues that there are parallels between the Nazi
Holocaust and current events in the United States.

"I talked to the parents of two different children who are attending
school in Milbourne, Arkansas. For the last week their children have
been put through what can only be described as brainwashing more
severe than the conditioning undergone by Hitler youth.

The children in the Milbourne Elementary School have been denied
breakfast and lunch while being forced to watch terrifying video of
terrorist attacks and archived battle footage."

Several companies have expressed interest in the project, including
two based in Florida, Wackenhut Corrections Corp. and Correctional
Services Corp., and Tennessee-based Corrections Corporation of
America. Three sites have been suggested in Prince George's and one in
Baltimore County.

"The executive producer of a CBS miniseries about Adolf Hitler's rise
to power has been fired after giving an interview in which he compared
the current mood of Americans to that of the Germans who helped Hitler
rise to power."

"It basically boils down to an entire nation gripped by fear, who
ultimately chose to give up their civil rights and plunged the whole
nation into war," Gernon said in the interview. "I can't think of a
better time to examine this history than now."

"Rep. Porter Goss, President Bush's nominee to head the CIA, recently
introduced legislation that would give the president new authority to
direct CIA agents to conduct law-enforcement operations inside the
United States—including arresting American citizens."

The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. The People are the
only sure reliance for the preservation of liberty.
-- Thomas Jefferson

“Loyalty is the realization that America was born of revolt,
flourished in dissent, became great through experimentation. Our
tradition is one of protest and revolt, and it is stultifying to
celebrate the rebels of the past while we silence the rebels of the
present.”
---Henry Steele, Historian

"Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand
by the president or any other public official."

“To announce that there must be no criticism of the president or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only
unpatriotic and servile, but it is morally treasonable to the American
public.”
--President Theodore Roosevelt (both)

“It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government.”
--Thomas Paine

“My country right or wrong, when right to keep right, when wrong to make right.”
--Carl Schulz

“My country, always. My government when it deserves it.”
--Mark Twain

“War is a racket… conducted for the benefit of the very few at the
expense of the very many…of course it isn’t put that crudely in war
time. It is dressed into speeches about patriotism, love of country,
and ‘we must all put our shoulders to the wheel,’ but the profits jump
and leap and skyrocket and are safely pocketed.”
--Marine Corps General Smedley Butler

"America goes not abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the
well-wisher of the freedom and independence of all. She is the
champion and vindicator only of her own."
--John Quincy Adams

"No, I know all the war rhetoric, but it's all aimed at achieving peace."
--George W. Bush

"It's a different kind of war because we're fighting people who are --
they send youngsters to their suicidal deaths and they try to find a
dark cave. They're kind of lurching around in the dark corners of some
cities around the world. They're in over 60 countries. And slowly but
surely, we're dismantling the terrorist network, which hates us
because of what we love. See, they hate the fact that we love freedom.
They can't stand the fact that in this country people can worship the
almighty God any way he or she sees fit."
--George W. Bush

"The other day, as you noticed, there was a fellow hiding in the dark
caves -- or dark corners, not caves, it was in the city, dark -- dark
corners of a city in Pakistan. He was going to be the 20th hijacker,
bin al-Shibh. He wanted to come here to kill. He didn't make it,
because we fortunately did not give him access."
--George W. Bush

"This is a man who continues to murder his own people, a man who has
gassed -- used gas on his own citizens, a man who has used chemical
weapons on his neighbors, a man who has invaded two countries, a man
which hates -- who hates America, a man who loves to link up with al
Qaeda, a man who is a true threat to America, to Israel, to anybody in
the neighborhood."
--George W. Bush

Potential violations of the statements and beliefs of America's founders:

Quarantining dissent: How the Secret Service protects Bush from free speech
San Francisco Chronicle - 01/04/04

"When President Bush travels around the United States, the Secret
Service visits the location ahead of time and orders local police to
set up "free speech zones" or "protest zones," where people opposed to
Bush policies (and sometimes sign-carrying supporters) are
quarantined."

Here are two speeches -from 1) Hitler's Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels (delivered to the German people about 65 years ago) and 2) Hermann Goerring during his trial at Nuremberg.

The parallels are clear, both in terms of the actual discourse, and in
terms of policies. The following doesn't include quotes from
Bush/Cheney but those are a dime a dozen these days and shouldn't be
hard to find.

1) "I ask, which leader is it today that has the vision, the willpower, and
yes, the backbone to best protect us?
The clear answer to that question has placed me in this hall with you
tonight.
There is but one man to whom I am willing to entrust our future and that
man's name is Adolph Hitler.
There are some crazy men who would kill us if they could. So Adolph Hitler
has told us: 'All private plans, all private lives, have been in a sense
repealed by an overriding public danger.'

But where is the national unity in this country when we need it most?
Now, while young Germans are dying in the mud in Czechoslovakia and the mountains of Poland, our nation is being torn apart and made weaker because of the Social Democrats manic obsession to bring down our Fuhrer.

What has happened to the nation I've spent my life working in?
I can remember when Social Democrats believed that it was the duty of
Germany to fight for freedom over tyranny.
Time after time in our history, in the face of great danger, Germans worked together to ensure that freedom would not falter. But not today.

Motivated more by partisan politics than by national security, today's
Social Democratic leaders see Germany as an occupier, not a liberator.

And nothing makes me madder than someone calling German troops occupiers rather than liberators.
Tell that to the Czechs, Poles, Frenchmen, and Belgians who have been freed because Adolph Hitler led an army of liberators, not occupiers.

Tell that to the millions of men, women, and children who are free today
from the Baltics to the Crimea, from Poland to the Balkans, because Adolph Hitler built a military of liberators, not occupiers.

Never in the history of the world has any soldier sacrificed more for the
freedom and liberty of total strangers than the German soldier. And our
soldiers don't just give freedom abroad; they preserve it for us here at
home.

Right now, the world just cannot afford an indecisive Germany. Fainthearted, self-indulgence will put at risk all we care about in this world.

In this hour of danger, our Fuhrer has had the courage to stand up. And I am proud to stand up with him.
God bless this great country and God bless Adolph Hitler."

2)"Naturally, the common people don't want war, but after all, it is the
leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple
matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy, or a fascist
dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no
voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This
is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and
denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to
danger. It works the same in every country."

The second one was a private interview by a journalist who had the rights to interview Goerring privately. The parallels are uncanny and similarily scripted with todays world are they not? It is a drama enacted time and time again to the fools that would believe anything told to them as truth. Such is the structure of our society that it can be manipulated and manufactured from its minutest details to the grandest examples. The Alpha and the Omega, as it were.

WHEN PEOPLE ARE DISHONEST, YOU CAN'T PIN THEM DOWN WITH WORDS
You can call them a hypocrite, and you are correct, but that doesnt end the endless shifting of 'principles' they will claim are the guiding light of their actions.
Being sincere in your debate with a dishonest person merely wastes your time and patience. It gives legitimacy to them as actually having a point of view worth debate, instead of the reality which is they will say anything anytime to enforce control over your life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.The most effective thing to do is tell them to FUCK OFF!

Ok? Fuck off bucky. And fuck off to your lying cocksucking leader Bushitler as well.

_________________Completely sane world
madness the only freedom

An ability to see both sides of a question
one of the marks of a mature mind