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MarkDaSpark

Haven't met a wine from Ty I didn't like. As long as you let them breathe, that is!

x20

Someone has to put WD's kids thru college, but why does it have to be me! *This post is for purposes of enabling only, and does not constitute any promise of helping pay for said enabling. It does indicate willingness to assist in drinking said wine.

cortot20

I most likely had these at Ty's futures barrel tasting in 2011 but I have no idea which ones I had, there were only 10 barrels pulled out all different vineyards. So yes this was a pointless self important post and you are all welcome.

klezman

Since Ty will be wanting to move on to his 2011s soon enough, this is a nice opportune deal. I've still got 3 of the 4 individual 2008 Cab Collection bottles here (drank the first a couple weeks ago). As always, delicious. Thankfully my siwbm decided what I'm going to do about today's offer.

Ty, what's the preferred drinking order on the Arroyo, Upper Bench, and Big Hill? I think we drank the Barracks first. Hope it was the right choice!

MarkDaSpark

PhilSandifer wrote:I'm always hesitant about trying Ty Caton, because wines that require long aging are just a pain for me. But hope springs eternal - how long do these guys occupy rack space before they're good?

CT has the Little Hill now thru 2017, and the other as a Drink By 2017.

They're 2010, so probably drinkable now, but you will need to decant (allow them to breathe for an hour or more) them. Maybe less.

You could also use a Vinturi aerator for each glass instead of waiting an hour.

x20

Someone has to put WD's kids thru college, but why does it have to be me! *This post is for purposes of enabling only, and does not constitute any promise of helping pay for said enabling. It does indicate willingness to assist in drinking said wine.

greyday

With young cabs, I tend to vinturi into a wine shower into a decanter, let sit 30, then drink slowly throughout several hours. You get close to the experience of cellaring several bottles and opening them each at different times.

Or you don't. But it's fun.

On the fence, bought too much wine the past few weeks, but I do like Ty's stuff. If it's still around in the morning, I may have to bite...

gastrognome

I love Ty's wines so much I joined his wine club. A not inexpensive proposition. I've not had this particular offering, but if my cellar were not already full of Ty's other goodies, this would be an auto buy.

mdctreeguy

gastrognome wrote:I love Ty's wines so much I joined his wine club. A not inexpensive proposition. I've not had this particular offering, but if my cellar were not already full of Ty's other goodies, this would be an auto buy.

A little off subject, but I just joined a wine club after enjoying a particular wine I purchased on WW. Can anybody out there speak to the advantages/disadvantages of joining a wine club? Beside the obvious case discounts, I was a little disappointed to receive pre-selected bottles at what I thought was a high price. Thanks for any comments.

Cyradia

mdctreeguy wrote:A little off subject, but I just joined a wine club after enjoying a particular wine I purchased on WW. Can anybody out there speak to the advantages/disadvantages of joining a wine club? Beside the obvious case discounts, I was a little disappointed to receive pre-selected bottles at what I thought was a high price. Thanks for any comments.

I think the advantage is usually in the winery's favor. If you're looking for value as a top priority, then I think wine clubs are always going to disappoint (unless, perhaps, you live within driving distance of the winery). They're all structured differently, but the advantages as I see them have been:

1) I don't forget about the winery. Once or twice a year a wine maker that I have historically really liked sends me stuff he or she is currently working on. By joining the club there's some structure in place so it "crosses my desk" at regular intervals.

2) Hypothetically speaking you should be getting wine to taste before most people get their hands on it. If there's an excellent release of a particular type...you are more or less first in line to buy it up before it sells out. However, I sometimes feel like they also use wine clubs as a clearing house and stick less-than-great wines in there.

3) I've never been impressed by the discounts, because the shipping tends to "counter balance" the price. That said, if you live within driving distance I think they become reasonably good deals.

4) Most wine clubs come with tasting privileges of some kind at the winery (assuming they have a tasting room). Again, if you lived close this could make the membership much more valuable and fun.

I think in most cases you join because you really enjoy their wines, you want to taste a wide variety of what they produce, and you like dealing with the winery. I buy most of my Wellington here, because the prices are better. I really like the Wellington wines though and I find the staff member (Toby) a pleasure to deal with. If I were just focused on the QPR though, I wouldn't do the club.

Oh, and depending on how the club works, most will let you "pass" on an order. So if you're really full on wine or you've already bought a lot of what is already in the club shipment, just shoot them an email and ask if you can sit this round out. I wouldn't stay with a club that didn't allow that type of flexibility.

exlaxer

Cyradia wrote:I think the advantage is usually in the winery's favor. If you're looking for value as a top priority, then I think wine clubs are always going to disappoint (unless, perhaps, you live within driving distance of the winery). They're all structured differently, but the advantages as I see them have been:

1) I don't forget about the winery. Once or twice a year a wine maker that I have historically really liked sends me stuff he or she is currently working on. By joining the club there's some structure in place so it "crosses my desk" at regular intervals.

2) Hypothetically speaking you should be getting wine to taste before most people get their hands on it. If there's an excellent release of a particular type...you are more or less first in line to buy it up before it sells out. However, I sometimes feel like they also use wine clubs as a clearing house and stick less-than-great wines in there.

3) I've never been impressed by the discounts, because the shipping tends to "counter balance" the price. That said, if you live within driving distance I think they become reasonably good deals.

4) Most wine clubs come with tasting privileges of some kind at the winery (assuming they have a tasting room). Again, if you lived close this could make the membership much more valuable and fun.

I think in most cases you join because you really enjoy their wines, you want to taste a wide variety of what they produce, and you like dealing with the winery. I buy most of my Wellington here, because the prices are better. I really like the Wellington wines though and I find the staff member (Toby) a pleasure to deal with. If I were just focused on the QPR though, I wouldn't do the club.

Oh, and depending on how the club works, most will let you "pass" on an order. So if you're really full on wine or you've already bought a lot of what is already in the club shipment, just shoot them an email and ask if you can sit this round out. I wouldn't stay with a club that didn't allow that type of flexibility.

gilda345

mdctreeguy wrote:A little off subject, but I just joined a wine club after enjoying a particular wine I purchased on WW. Can anybody out there speak to the advantages/disadvantages of joining a wine club? Beside the obvious case discounts, I was a little disappointed to receive pre-selected bottles at what I thought was a high price. Thanks for any comments.

I've joined a few clubs after visiting wineries in California because their wine isn't distributed in my state. I agree the shipments aren't usually a great deal, but they're wines that I like and don't mind paying to have it delivered to my door since the only other way to acquire it is a trip to the West Coast.

I joined Ty's club after visiting the tasting room in May. One big perk was having access to a 50% off sale earlier this summer. I received a mixed case at a great price. A few of my other clubs have offered sales like that to members and it's a great opportunity to stock up.

SmilingBoognish

I'm not sure I'd be bold enough to try this with such an expensive cab, but for young Pedroncelli's I pour about half a glass, put the cork back in, and shake the daylights out of it for about 30 seconds. Then I'll pour another glass. The difference between the two is profound.

TyCaton

klezman wrote:Since Ty will be wanting to move on to his 2011s soon enough, this is a nice opportune deal. I've still got 3 of the 4 individual 2008 Cab Collection bottles here (drank the first a couple weeks ago). As always, delicious. Thankfully my siwbm decided what I'm going to do about today's offer.

Ty, what's the preferred drinking order on the Arroyo, Upper Bench, and Big Hill? I think we drank the Barracks first. Hope it was the right choice!

I haven't tried the 2008 wines in some time. If I had to make an educated guess, for that vintage, I would drink the Arroyo, Big Hill, Upper Bench with the Barracks last

zmanonice

I have had both of these wines. As a Charter member of Ty's Cabernet club, we received a 30% discount. That means I paid $43.26 per bottle with taxes and shipping. This offer is $34.53 per bottle with taxes and shipping to Texas, so you are getting a better deal.

My typical process is I pop the cork and then place the bottle in my wine chiller. In this case, I set it to 63 degrees for a Cab. It takes about 45 minutes to get to the desired temperature. I don't take any notes on the first glass, so the wine has had a chance to open up.

8/14/13 - 2010 Little Hill Cab

Medium purple color, violet at the edge, opaque as expected. Did not pick up the typical Cab nose of cassis. The nose was what I would call stale, a little hot, and no berries or fruit showed up. The wine had medium tartness, an average amount of tannins, and an average length finish. A little dark fruit came across on the tasting, but it seemed a bit weak. My notes said "not much to talk about". I was a bit disappointed based on the price, and wondered if I had opened it too early.

10/17/12 - 2010 Terraces Cab

Medium purple color to the edge, opaque as expected. Faint, dark berries on the nose, not much else of note, seemed a little stale or dry. The wine had medium tartness, an above average amount of tannins, and an average length finish. It had an interesting flavor and I picked up some fruit as well. Didn't have any negative comments compared to the bottle above.

The shipments come with two bottles each of these wines, so the second bottle is laying down for a few years to see if there is any improvement.

I dropped out of the club earlier this year as I didn't think the QPR was there to justify continued purchases. Of course, YMMV.

Storm33

Why in the heck aren't they shipping to Michigan?? I've bought several bottles of Ty Caton in the past, both on W.W and direct from their site, without incident - even as recently as this summer. What changed? I really want this offering; I rarely miss a Caton / Woot deal. .

noslensj

Storm33 wrote:That's quite vague, but thanks for trying. I just visited the Caton website and can still order wine / have it shipped to Michigan - so it makes no sense that Woot isn't allowing me to buy it here.

In brief. Caton is direct selling to you. They own the wine. They sell it and ship it to you. Woot does not own the wine, They are a representative of the winery.

That might not seem like a big distinction to you, but in the world of alcoholic beverages it makes a huge difference in the rules of the game.

The warehousers and distributors have grudgingly allowed for direct sales, because they've been sort of compelled to. But they're doing everything they can to hang on to as much of their monopoly as they can, which means trying to make it as difficult as possible for out-of-state third parties to ship wine into the state.

fredrinaldi

zmanonice wrote:I have had both of these wines. As a Charter member of Ty's Cabernet club, we received a 30% discount. That means I paid $43.26 per bottle with taxes and shipping. This offer is $34.53 per bottle with taxes and shipping to Texas, so you are getting a better deal.

My typical process is I pop the cork and then place the bottle in my wine chiller. In this case, I set it to 63 degrees for a Cab. It takes about 45 minutes to get to the desired temperature. I don't take any notes on the first glass, so the wine has had a chance to open up.

8/14/13 - 2010 Little Hill Cab

Medium purple color, violet at the edge, opaque as expected. Did not pick up the typical Cab nose of cassis. The nose was what I would call stale, a little hot, and no berries or fruit showed up. The wine had medium tartness, an average amount of tannins, and an average length finish. A little dark fruit came across on the tasting, but it seemed a bit weak. My notes said "not much to talk about". I was a bit disappointed based on the price, and wondered if I had opened it too early.

10/17/12 - 2010 Terraces Cab

Medium purple color to the edge, opaque as expected. Faint, dark berries on the nose, not much else of note, seemed a little stale or dry. The wine had medium tartness, an above average amount of tannins, and an average length finish. It had an interesting flavor and I picked up some fruit as well. Didn't have any negative comments compared to the bottle above.

The shipments come with two bottles each of these wines, so the second bottle is laying down for a few years to see if there is any improvement.

I dropped out of the club earlier this year as I didn't think the QPR was there to justify continued purchases. Of course, YMMV.

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