Suggestion to guys who believe in fiscal conservatism

* Repub presidents have added 3 trillion more dollars to the National Debt than Dem presidents have* the Repub party claimed that "deficits don't matter" for the last 30 years* Reagan more than tripled the National Debt* Dubya doubled the National Debt.* No Repub president has balanced a budget since Eisenhower did in 1957, while Democrat Bill Clinton did repeatedly at the end of the 1990's* Every recession for the last 30+ years has hit when there's been a Repub president in the White House* the stock market has historically done much better when a Dem president has been in the White House* President Obama pushed for a 4 trillion dollar debt reduction "Grand Bargain" and the Repubs refused to pass it. The Repubs instead offered up a debt reduction deal that would have reduced the National Debt by less than 1 trillion instead

The facts make it clear that the Repub party does NOT have a record of "fiscal conservatism".The Repubs have a record of big borrowing and spending - and blowing up the National Debt.

* Repub presidents have added 3 trillion more dollars to the National Debt than Dem presidents have* the Repub party claimed that "deficits don't matter" for the last 30 years* Reagan more than tripled the National Debt* Dubya doubled the National Debt.* No Repub president has balanced a budget since Eisenhower did in 1957, while Democrat Bill Clinton did repeatedly at the end of the 1990's* Every recession for the last 30+ years has hit when there's been a Repub president in the White House* the stock market has historically done much better when a Dem president has been in the White House* President Obama pushed for a 4 trillion dollar debt reduction "grand Bargain" and the Repubs refused to pass it. The Repubs instead offered up a debt reduction deal that would have reduced the National Debt by less than 1 trillion instead

The facts make it clear that the Repub party does NOT have a record of "fiscal conservatism".The Repubs have a record of big borrowing and spending - and blowing up the National Debt.

Lemme guess...So your point being that 'based on results of the past" we should vote for....?

My focus is very clear. I look at what Obama and the Democrats have accomplished over the past couple of years, and what they would like to have accomplished if they had their way. I compare that to the positions of Ryan and others, and decide what is best for the country over the next few years.

socalfitness saidMy focus is very clear. I look at what Obama and the Democrats have accomplished over the past couple of years, and what they would like to have accomplished if they had their way. I compare that to the positions of Ryan and others, and decide what is best for the country over the next few years.

Exactly! And it should be noted that the U.S. economy, not to mention the world at large and how our economy works on a global scale, is an entirely different place than it was in decades past -- and it's rapidly changing at an accelerated pace --- so to take results of Presidents, and administrations, of the past and somehow try to apply it to what may happen in the future becomes increasingly less of a valid argument.

* Repub presidents have added 3 trillion more dollars to the National Debt than Dem presidents have* the Repub party claimed that "deficits don't matter" for the last 30 years* Reagan more than tripled the National Debt* Dubya doubled the National Debt.* No Repub president has balanced a budget since Eisenhower did in 1957, while Democrat Bill Clinton did repeatedly at the end of the 1990's* Every recession for the last 30+ years has hit when there's been a Repub president in the White House* the stock market has historically done much better when a Dem president has been in the White House* President Obama pushed for a 4 trillion dollar debt reduction "grand Bargain" and the Repubs refused to pass it. The Repubs instead offered up a debt reduction deal that would have reduced the National Debt by less than 1 trillion instead

The facts make it clear that the Repub party does NOT have a record of "fiscal conservatism".The Repubs have a record of big borrowing and spending - and blowing up the National Debt.

Lemme guess...So your point being that 'based on results of the past" we should vote for....?

The Repubs had a chance to reduce the National Debt by 4 trillion just a month ago during the debt ceiling debate.They refused and instead offered a debt deal that would have reduced the National Debt by less than 1 trillion.

The Repubs are obviously just flapping their gums about the seriousness of fiscal responsibiltity.They haven't changed their ways from their "deficits don't matter" budget-busting past.They're just saying shit to try to fool folks into voting Repub.

Just like all their 2010 campaign promises.They promised to "focus like a laser beam on jobs jobs jobs".Seven months+ later and that haven't done a God damn thing to try to create jobs.They've offered NO jobs plan.They haven't passed - or even proposed - a jobs bill.They just lied to try to win an election - LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO.